HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch (kevinh)
Subject: Re: Norton Plans
Originator: kevinh@nath
Reply-To: kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch
Organization: Ascom Hasler AG
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:26:14 GMT


In article <BxwB0C.4Fu@quadsys.com>, roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov16.135957.28425@swlvx2.msd.ray.com> csl@swl.msd.ray.com (Scott Lilliott) writes:
|> >
|> >They are currently planning to race in the US this year on the 588 rotary.
|> >They will be releasing an updated version of the street model called the "F1"
|> >but not in the states, only in Europe.
|> >
|> 
|> I know, but wasn't the F1 supposed to be out already?


Yes, it's been out for some time.

|> As I have imported my
|> 2 most recent bikes, I have no problem in getting it from Britain (would
|> get it from germany, but it'll be restricted to 100hp). The F1 should be
|> a scream, now that they fixed the air intake and upped the hp.

I thought it had around 90 PS in the UK at the moment? - are they increasing
it? It's quite an expensive bike, 8-9K GBP ($14.5 - $16K), shame really as
it is, IMHO, one of the best looking bikes you can buy.

kevinh@hasler.ascom.ch
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: crowder@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mark Crowder)
Subject: Re: water-proofing gloves
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:00:29 GMT

In article <66y1c4a@rpi.edu> root@june.cmp.rpi.edu (J.R. Ordon) writes:
>I'd like to waterproof my leather riding gloves.
>I have not seen much in the way of waterproofing products for gloves.
>I'm wondering if products like "camp dry" , which is used to waterproof
>leather workboots, could be used on gloves. Has anybody out there used
>these products sucessfully on gloves???
  I haven't been successfull, but perhaps I can save you some time.
I've tried 'that silicon stuff you get from boot places', Scotchguard,
and seam-sealer for tents.  None of those work.  I think leather gloves
are just too absorbant and have too many seams.  I finally gave up
and ordered some Dry Rider rain mits.  These are completely water-proof,
very compact, and go on easily over leather gloves.  You can get them
from anywhere that sells DR rain suits.  Seems like they were pretty
cheap too.  Good luck in your quest! 

Mark Crowder                                            crowder@spdc.ti.com 
Dallas, Tx                    88 BMW R100RS         Texas Instruments, Inc.
"Some degree of honesty must be present in conversation, or it lapses into
a lower form of art such as literature" 
                         -- P.J. O'Rourke "Republican Party Reptile"

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Subject: Posing, it't the law 
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles 
Keywords: Police colors
Reply-To: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Organization: AT&T Tridom, Engineering
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:04:34 GMT

Reprinted without permission from the Thur, Nov 19, 1992  Atlanta Journal
and Constitution. Section C "Living", Page C2, Bizarre Buzz

Clashing Cycles:  Police officers on blue and white motorcycles in Laguna
Beach, Calif., can't write tickets.  Their color scheme is all wrong.  Police
motorcycles are supposed to be black and white, not blue, a traffic
commissioner ruled in throwing out a speeding ticket.  "They're nice colors,
but as I understand the law, units used exclusively for traffic enforcement
must be painted specific colors," said commissioner Matt Flynn.

Wonder if they're allowed to wear flip-flops, muscle-Ts and Raybans? 

Think Peace.
-- Alan (alanf@eng.tridom.com)
KotBBBB (1988 GSXR1100J)  AMA# 634578  DOD# 4210
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:40009 ba.motorcycles:921
From: ses@sunSITE.unc.edu (Simon Spero)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: WHAT WAS IT?
Date: 22 Nov 92 00:54:30 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

In article <1emi6oINNlql@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>
>In a previous article, cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston) says:
>
>>In article <1dpv8sINNfhm@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>>
>>>variations..and maybe some performance specs for it..just to satisfy my
>>>curiostiy..email'd be nice.but posting is ok too..thanx!
>>
>>This must be the guy that wrote Bush's speeches.
>>
>
>you wanna tell me why?, and whether or not that is a compliment?

I wouldn't call Peggy Noonan a guy; mind you after her impressive performance
this year with that losing thing, not many people are calling her either. 

What you need to do is sit down for a few minutes with a macintosh and a copy
of, er, SimBush. Message: try and relate to the sentence thing. 

Simon // A thousand pints of light. (and a packet of crisps please)
-- 
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From: davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cycle World: the Pot Calling the Kettl
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:24:13 GMT
Organization: Tektronix - Colorado Data Systems, Englewood, CO

In article <BxxDsF.8oy@cs.uiuc.edu> ward@cs.uiuc.edu (Christ Ward) writes:
>
>I've never been on a jetski, man,
                      ^^^^^^
    It's a kind of a Polish airliner.

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From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Date: 19 Nov 1992 20:19:18 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 0@u.washington.edu, moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley) writes:
>
>The fact is that in states without helmet laws, 50% of motorcyclists NEVER 
>wear helmets. This makes me question the assumption that these Human Beings 
>are capable of making informed judgements on the issue. 

The fact is that among nonworking house-spouses, 50% of them watch soap
operas regularly.  This makes me question the assumption that these
Human Beings are capable of making informed judgements.

Gee, Steve, ain't it great to be so sure our bahavior is correct that
anybody who behaves otherwise is incompetent?

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: high mileage
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 16:03:39 GMT

klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:

>>>I've got 25K on my Magna(V-4 engine) and haven't had a lick of

>Hey, don't they call them maggots in England?

Well here in Utah, Magna is known as the low-rent area of Salt Lake near
the open-pit copper mine. I wonder how well a bike named "Brixton" or
"Watts" would sell? :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:24:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.moseley.122.0
Organization: Microbial Pathogenesis and Motorcycle Maintenance

In article <uoVguB1w165w@ziggys.cts.com>
 cobra@ziggys.cts.com 619/262-6384 (Ron Lee) writes:

>The thing that pisses a lot of us off (and I admit, I'm taking quite a 
>liberty to speak for many whose opinions I haven't gathered) is that IT 
>DIDN'T HAVE TO BE A DOGMATIC "DO IT OR DON'T RIDE AT ALL" type of 
>dictatorial paternalistic attitude which fails to treat motorcyclers as 
>Human Beings with abilities to make such judgements for themselves.

The fact is that in states without helmet laws, 50% of motorcyclists NEVER 
wear helmets. This makes me question the assumption that these Human Beings 
are capable of making informed judgements on the issue. Not that I'm in 
favor of helmet laws ...

Steve
DoD # 1951, COG, HOG, AMA
__________________________________________________________________________
Steve L. Moseley                                  moseley@u.washington.edu
Microbiology SC-42                                Phone: (206) 543-2820
University of Washington                          FAX:   (206) 543-8297
Seattle, WA 98195
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Alcohol fuels
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:45:59 -0600
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
 <1992Nov20.180925.90657@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au> <1992Nov23.152414.8927@rtsg.mot.com>
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

In article <1992Nov23.152414.8927@rtsg.mot.com>, svoboda@rtsg.mot.com
(David Svoboda) wrote:
> 
> Before you make any decisions based on the cleanliness of ethanol as 
> motor fuel, be sure to have a look at the lifetime energy costs of the
> technology.  [..more deleted...]

Right on.  I'd be interested in the economics of corn growing given that
fertilizer is now a requisite for growing corn and fertilizer is a
petroleum product.  I'd like anyone who has romantic visions of farming
to drive across old rt 6 in Iowa.  That grey, lifeless earth was once
vital soil.  Now it is merely an inert matrix used to temporarily
hold fertilizer and moisture.  The soil has long passed its lifetime.
It is already dead.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger)
Subject: Re: Suicidal cager
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:01:42 GMT

In <Stafford-161192094452@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:

> 
>In article <22370@drutx.ATT.COM>, pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith) writes:
>> Yesterday, there was a bizarre story in the news here in Denver.
>> 
>> James Pedlar was apparently attempting suicide by running his
>> car into a large elm tree at high speed in urban Denver.  He ran
>> a stop sign enroute to the tree.  Matthew Burke, a father of four,
>> had just bought a new motorcycle, and was on his way to a friend's
>> house to show it off.  He had the misfortune to be in the intersection
>> at exactly the wrong time.  Burke was killed instantly.  Ironically,
>> Pedlar did still succeed in hitting the tree, but he was only slightly
>> injured.  Police found a suicide note in the pocket of his jacket on
>> the car seat.

>Better than wishing this person the death penalty (which he might
>desire) perhaps he could be put into the service of the surviving
>family for life.

I'll buy that.

__
   Jorg Klinger            |       GSXR1100        | If you only new who
   Arch. & Eng. Services   |          **           | I think I am. 
   UManitoba, Man. Ca.     |"The Embalmer" - IT175 |           - anonymous






























Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Rear Brake Pedal Sticks
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 05:45:42 GMT

johnr@nx29.mik.uky.edu (john s roberts) writes:

>I have a 1985 Honda Shadow 500cc and the rear brake lever sticks in
>the down postision whenever I press it down.  I was just dering if
>anyone had any suggestions for fixing this problem before my front 
>break goes out.

Is it a drum? My first guess would be that the brake shoes are worn out,
and the "cam" that forces the shoes apart is going past the point of no
return and getting stuck.

-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu (Kyle Cassidy)
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Organization: Rowan College of New Jersey
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:26:12 GMT

In article <28842.89.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us> dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)  writes:
>
> In reality, you have a helluva lot more to worry about than just
>bumping your head.  Statistically, legs are in a lot more danger.

that's good, because i'd rather break the legs than the head.


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From: rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com (Roger Collier)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: From the Daily Telegraph
Date: 9 Nov 1992 14:24:25 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: discovery.uk.sun.com

From the national press. I don't apologise for any errors.
Daily Telegraph, 9th November 1992:

EC plans curb on motorcycle power
by Sonia Purnell in Brussels and Alastair McCall

A ban on the sale of powerful motorcyles with engines above 100bhp
has been proposed by the EC. If approved it could signal the end of
the road for many of the flagship models of manufacturers as diverse
as Triumph and Ducati.
Opposition to the proposal is growing among motorcycle pressure groups
who claim that the projected cut in the number of accidents which it
is claimed would follow the restrictions will not materialise.
They say it is just another example of needless EC interference in
domestic affairs.
Manufacturers would have to re-engineer existing models to reduce
their power outputs, or scrap them.
Some companies, such as BMW, have no motorcycles developing more
than 100bhp and would not be affected. But the newly revitalised
Triumph is expected to unveil a sports model later this month producing
almost 150bhp.
Brussels argues that the legally binding regulation is necessary for
safety reasons as it will restrict speed. The measure is thought likely
to be approved by the European Commission because it already has the
tacit approval of all member governments.
Mr Peter Beazley, Conservative MEP for Cornwall and Plymouth, who is
heading the campaign against the regulation, said: "This is not about
safety, but about creating the single market. It is up to the police
to enforce strict speed limits, not this regulation on manufacturers.
The motorcyclist doesn't have a steel body around him and therefore
needs acceleration in a tight spot. There are no restrictions on car
speeds and horsepower."
Mr Rod Collins, motorcycling adviser to the Institute of Advanced
Motorists, said of the proposal: "I feel it is an irrelevance. Most
accidents do not occur when 100bhp is being developed. Most occur
with smaller machines and inexperienced riders.
It is far better to train people to ride more safely to a better
standard than to impose artificial limits."


         #                                           # Let's not talk about
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o_/_\_o  #                                           # things that don't
 (O_O)   #     Sun Microsystems, Coventry, England.  # explode. I've used up
  \H/    #     (44) 203 692255                       # all of my magic powers
   U     #                                           # trying to do it in the
      DoD#226  GSXR1100L                             # road.
              Keeper of the GSXR1100 list.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bdboyle@erenj.com (Bryan D. Boyle)
Subject: Re: Looking for Honda 350/4
Organization: Exxon Research and Engineering Co., NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:37:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.183133.15592@varian.com> bob@csbvax.uucp (Bob Palin) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.153830.13900@erenj.com> bdboyle@erenj.com (Bryan D. Boyle) writes:
>>now...) a Honda 350/4cylinder.  I know they are probably not the most
>>Bryan D. Boyle   |opinions mine, not Exxon's...
>                                      ^^^^^
>>Senior Engineer  |PVT/ASEL/IA
>
>You will of course be wanting the model with the double walled gas tank...
>
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Of course....:-)

Bryan D. Boyle    |opinions mine, not Exxon's...
Senior Engineer   |PVT/ASEL/IA


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Another fine product from the DoD
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:24:24 GMT

In article <1208@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com> meb4593@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com (Michael Bain) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.202739.11617@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Qu
>ist) writes:
>>
>>Yet another prospect in the long line of quality DoD merchandise:
>>         >>>DoD Beer Coasters<<<
>>Projected cost, at this time, is $.50 US per each, plus shipping.
>
>Gee whiz, Jonathan.  You are only charging $.20 each to your
>homebrewing buddies!  What did we do to deserve this?!  

BZZZZZTTTTT!!!!!!

I am _not_ selling any coasters for $.20 to anyone!

Someone had asked recently about coasters, and I mentioned .20 as
an approximate price when ordered in large quantities.  Since we are
likely dealing with small quantities, the setup charge for a 3-color
coaster becomes a _significant_ part of the price.  And I'm not going
to bother with all this mess just to send $10.50 to the museum...
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Slip-sliding away (was Re: What would you ride...)
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:27:24 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Alex Matthews (alex@lyra.colorado.edu) wrote:
: Future contributors to this thread should first complete the following
: brain-teaser:
: 
: "You are riding your bike in a straight line.  Is your front wheel rotating
: about its hub, or about its contact point with the road, or both, or
: neither?"

The wheel is definitely rotating about its hub.  It is not rotating about its
contact patch.  Envision the wheel spinning at the same time it is travelling
forward one inch off the road.  OK, now that you have this mini-wheelie 
pictured let's assume that the tire touches down and contiues spinning at the
same speed and so does forward travel.  It should be obvious that there is
not rotation around the contact patch.  This is valid for straight line only.
--

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* Bill Ranck                                          ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu *
* DoD #496  Bikes past and present: CB175, CB550F, Norton 750, CB350F, XV535  *
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From: marrevola@rediris.es
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ZX-11 front brake.
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:26:21 +0100
Organization: REDIRIS, Red Nacional de I+D

In article <1676@seqp4.sequoia.com>, cantrell@seqp4.sequoia.com (Paul Cantrell) writes:
> 
> Can you be more specific about what needs to be improved? In what way was the
> CBR900RR superior? Are you sure you're talking brakes, not tires?
> -- 
>                   THIS                  | Paul Cantrell "PC"
>                   SPACE                 | cantrell@sequoia.com
>               INTENTIONALLY             | DoD #1144
>                LEFT BLANK               | HELO/ASEL/ZX10 Pilot

I'm not saying that my ZX-11 has bad brakes. They are good. But when you try
something better, you think your own is worse. The Honda has better feel, no
variations (allways the same feel) and more braking power with much less finger 
force. You can do a perfect stop with only one finger, there is no fadding,
etc... (Of course, taking into account the lower weight of the CBR).

I think that there are many reasons, some of them difficult to explain, but the
real thing is your feeling of security. Right?

manolo@taf.fundesco.es
ZX-11
DR-600-S
DoD #1033
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: High speed in USA?
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:14:29 -0600
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

> Richard Pierson (fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM) wrote:
[story of being stopped at 70mph in cage while in uniform omitted]

In '66 I had a similar experience.  When the cop asked for my drivers
license and saw my military id and overseas orders, he sighed "Dead meat.
Beat it and don't get killed before you ship out." Made my day ;-(   
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: BDIVOs in general
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:45:04 GMT

Diana Boyd (dboyd@informix.com) wrote:
: In article <1992Nov17.173848.26320@twg.com> nolan@twg.com (Broderick Crawford)  
: writes:
: > 
: > Nolan "Man enough to do woman's work" Hinshaw
: > Internet: nolan@twg.com			Dingalingnet: (415)962-7197 
: 	
: 
: What's "woman's work"?
: 
: Diana

Screwing men?  God am I sore, today!  I wish I was built like a woman, hey,
I'm delicate down there, you know.  Beware the lusty woman!

Apart from giving birth and screwing men, I can't think of anything that is
specifically "women's work".  I don't think I'm wrong in this, do you agree?


Nick (the Bruised Biker)   MAG 73516   DoD 1069   "Treat Your Man Gently"


M'Lud.   "Ooooh"
From: robd@boxer.airhead.withdrawl.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: DOD launches payload???
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:35:50 GMT
Reply-To: robd@orca.wv.tek.com
Organization: Network Displays Reliability Engineering

From sci.space.news....


Newsgroups: sci.space.news
Subject: NASA Daily News for 11/20/92 (Forwarded)
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Daily                 News
Friday, November 20, 1992  24-hour audio service at 202/755-1788

 % Space flight management sets December 2 as launch date 
                  for STS-53;
 % Third NASA Town Meeting begins today at 1:00 pm from 
                  Indianapolis;
 % DOD payload scheduled for launch aboard Scout from 
                  Vandenberg tomorrow;
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Alright damnit! What are you Californicators up to now????
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles