From: davidto@pole.fx.com (David M To)
Subject: [POL] Re: Ly' Thuye^'t DDu+a Nu+o+'c ...
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: davidto@pole.fx.com
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:47:06 GMT




Thu+a ca'c ba.n tre^n SCV,

To^i xin tra? lo+`i nhu+~ng y' kie^'n cu?a ca'c anh N.N.Thi.nh, N.T.Thi.nh 
va` xin cha^'m du+'t cuo^.c ba`n lua^.n na`y dde^? chu'ng ta da`nh thi`
gio+` ba`n lua^.n hoa(.c tham gia va`o nhu+~ng co^ng vie^.c ca^'p ba'ch
ho+n nhu+ tro+. giu'p LAVAS, tro+. giu'p thuye^`n nha^n, va^.n ddo^.ng cho 
Ly' To^'ng, hoa(.c ca'c kho' kha(n cu?a ca'c gia ddi`nh si~ quan VNCH 
vu+`a ddu+o+.c ddi.nh cu+ ta.i Hoa Ky`.  To^i thie^'t nghi~ ca'c dde^` 
ta`i na`y mo+'i dda'ng cho chu'ng ta quan ta^m ho+n la` nhu+~ng chuye^.n 
ba`n ca?i kho^ng mang to+'i i'ch lo+.i na`o ca?.  Trong quan ddie^?m ddo'
dda^y se~ la` la^`n cuo^'i to^i ba`n lua^.n ve^` la^.p tru+o+`ng cu?a
anh Nguye^~n N. Thi.nh.

To^i hoa`n toa`n kho^ng ddo^`ng y' ly' thuye^'t cu?a anh N.N.Thi.nh ra(`ng:
1) Ly' To^'ng la` mo^.t ngu+o+`i ddie^n khu`ng; 2) chu'ng ta ca^`n ddem 
cha(.t dda^`u he^'t ca'c te^n la?nh dda.o co^.ng sa?n, la?nh dda.o kha'ng 
chie^'n ha?i ngoa.i, va` la?nh dda.o to^n gia'o vi` ca? ba nho'm ddo' dde^`u 
co' to^.i vo+'i dda^'t nu+o+'c va` da^n to^.c.  

To^i thie^'t nghi~: trong khi ta^'t ca? ca'c to^? chu+'c cu?a co^.ng ddo^.ng 
ngu+o+`i Vie^.t ha?i ngoa.i ddang va^.n ddo^.ng cho Ly' To^'ng, cho co^ng 
cuo^.c cho^'ng ba?i bo? ca^'m va^.n vo^ ddie^`u kie^.n, co^.ng vo+'i su+. 
ddoa`n ke^'t cu?a ta^'t ca? mo.i to^n gia'o ddo`i tu+. do nha^n quye^`n va` 
da^n chu? cho dda^'t nu+o+'c va` da^n to^.c, thi` chu'ng ta kho^ng the^? 
na`o ddi go.p co^.ng ddo^.ng ngu+o+`i Vie^.t ha?i ngoa.i, nhu+~ng nha` la?nh 
dda.o to^n gia'o chung va`o vo+'i co^.ng sa?n ro^`i xa'ch ddi cha(.t dda^`u 
ho. ddu+o+.c.  To^i tha^'y ra(`ng dda^y la` mo^.t la^.p tru+o+`ng thie^'u
ddoa`n ke^'t va` xa^y du+.ng.

La` mo^.t ngu+o+`i Vie^.t Nam vo+'i la^.p tru+o+`ng quo^'c gia ro~ re^.t,
to^i pha?i le^n tie^'ng tre^n die^~n dda`n na`y dde^? ba?o ve^. danh du+. 
cu?a 2 nho'm ma` anh NNT muo^'n "cha(.t dda^`u", va` sau nu+~a la` ke^u go.i 
anh NNT ha?y ba`n lua^.n ve^` nhu+~ng vie^.c la`m nha^n dda.o ca^'p ba'ch.  
To^i vu+`a le^n tie^'ng chi? tri'ch la^.p tru+o+`ng ddo' la` to^i bi. mang 
te^n la` "extreme anti-commumist" va` "chu.p mu~".  Ne^'u va^.y thi`
o+? dda^y ai la` qua' khi'ch?  Ai chu.p mu~ ai?  Ne^'u vi` vie^.c le^n
tie^'ng dde^? pha?n ddo^'i la^.p tru+o+`ng cu?a anh N.N.Thi.nh va` ke^u
go.i anh Thi.nh ha~y quan ta^m to+'i nhu+~ng chuye^.n nha^n dda.o ca^'p
ba'ch ma` bi. go.i la` "chu.p mu~" thi` to^i xin ha?nh die^.n nha^.n 
la^'y nhu+~ng chu+~ ddo'.

Thu+a ca'c ba.n,

Co' le? ca'c ba.n co`n nho+' ca'ch dda^y 3 tha'ng net chu'ng ta bi. so^i 
no^?i ve^` LTV vs. BacHo.  To^i dda~ le^n tie^'ng lu'c ddo' dda~ ki'ch 
chuye^.n BacHo chu.p mu~ mo^.t so^' netters vi` to^i nghi~ ra(`ng chuye^.n 
ddo' kho^ng mang la.i i'ch lo+.i gi` ca?.  To^i xin repost mo^.t pha^`n 
ba`i ddo' sau dda^y dde^? 2 ba.n Thi.nh tu+. ru't la^'y ke^'t lua^.n.

"
"   To^i cu~ng ca?m tha^'y kho' chi.u khi ddo.c nhu+~ng lo+`i le? cu?a
"bacho ne^n to^i xin phe'p no'i va`i lo+`i ve^` "chu.p mu~."  To^i nghi~
"ra(`ng ha`nh ddo^.ng chu.p mu~ kho^ng mang la.i lo+.i i'ch cu. the^? gi`
"cho ca' nha^n trong cuo^.c, cho SCV, cho the^' lu+.c cu?a be^n quo^'c gia,
"hoa(.c cho su+. tranh dda^'u tu+. do da^n chu? ta.i VN.  Ne^'u chu'ng ta
"muo^'n thuye^'t phu.c ca'c ba.n tre? ddu+'ng chung vo+'i la^.p tru+o+`ng
"chi'nh tri. cu?a chu'ng ta, quo^'c gia hay hoa` ho+.p hoa` gia?i, thi` ha?y
"la`m nhu+~ng vie^.c thie^.n ddi nhu+ giu'p ddo+? nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ty. na.n,
"nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i mo+'i ddi.nh cu+, nhu+~ng cu+.u qua^n nha^n VNCH bi. ta^.t
"nguye^`n hie^.n co`n o+? VN, nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ddang bi. CS giam ca^`m, etc.
"tu+. nhie^n chu'ng ta se~ co' tie^'ng no'i cha^n chi'nh ma` kho^ng ca^`n
"pha?i la`m the^m ddie^`u gi` nu+~a.  To^i no'i dda^y la` nhu+~ng ba.n dda~
"la`m vie^.c thie^.n nhu+ Hien Doky, Truong Minh Tri, Dr. Thang Nguyen, Quang 
"Dinh, "Nhan Tran, etc. va` ra^'t nhie^`u nhu+~ng ba.n kha'c tre^n SCV ma` to^i
"kho^ng the^? lie^.t ke^ dda^`u ddu? he^'t o+? dda^y ddu+o+.c.  Ca'ch ddo'
"theo to^i nghi~ la` ca'ch hay nha^'t dde^? cho^'ng la.i la^.p tru+o+`ng
"chi'nh tri. cu?a nhu+~ng phe pha'i kha'c va` cu~ng la` ca'ch hay nha^'t
"dde^? ddo'ng go'p pha^`n na`o cho nu'i so^ng.
"

To^i nghi~ co' le? to^i dda~ tra? lo+`i thoa? dda'ng ca'c ca^u ho?i cu?a
ca'c ba.n ve^` vie^.c to^i ta.i sao to^i tra? lo+`i la^.p tru+o+`ng 
"Ly' Thuye^'t DDu+a VN To+'i ..." cu?a anh N.N.Thi.nh.

Ca'c ba.n tha^n,

To^i coi nhu+ dda^y la` mo^.t ta^m su+. giu+~a ta^'t ca? chu'ng ta tre^n
SCV.  To^i tha^'y chu'ng ta co' nhie^`u ddie^?m gio^'ng nhau ho+n la` kha'c 
bie^.t.  To^i cu~ng nhu+ ba.n N.T.Thi.nh la` mo^.t registered Democrat tu+`
lu'c va`o quo^'c ti.ch My~ (kho^ng nhu+~ng cho Clinton ma` co`n cho Dukakis 
nu+~a.)  Vie^.c bo? ddi nhu+~ng kha'c bie^.t dde^? cu`ng ngo^`i xuo^'ng la`m 
nhu+~ng vie^.c nha^n dda.o ca^'p ba'ch la` vie^.c to^i hoan nghe^nh he^'t 
mi`nh.  Ba.n Kiet dda~ vie^'t tru'ng ca?m nghi~ cu?a to^i khi ba.n a^'y
vie^'t ra(`ng:

> From: ktt@america.Telebit.COM (Kiet Tran)
>To^i hy vo.ng nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i o+? the^' he^. chu'ng ta, co' may ma)'n ddu+o+.c
>pha't trie^?n o+? mo^.t xa~ ho^.i ho`a bi`nh va` da^n chu?, se~ ddo'ng go'p 
>va`o co^ng cuo^.c xa^y du+.ng la.i nhu+~ng gi` ma` the^' he^. tru+o+'c chu'ng 
>ta dda~ tha^'t ba.i.

Muo^'n du+.ng le^n va'ch tu+o+`ng, ta ca^`n xa^y vie^n ga.ch dda^`u tie^n.
Co^ng cuo^.c xa^y du+.ng la.i que^ hu+o+ng ba('t dda^`u tu+` lu'c mo^~i mo^.t 
chu'ng ta xa^y mo^.t vie^n ga.ch cho que^ hu+o+ng ba(`ng ca'ch: dda^'u tranh 
cho tu+. do va` nha^n quye^`n o+? VN, giu'p ddo+? ca'c chu+o+ng tri`nh nha^n 
dda.o cho thuye^`n nha^n, tre? em mo^` co^i, gia ddi`nh ca'c cu+.u qua^n 
nha^n VNCH ddang ga(.p kho' kha(n, etc.  DDa^y la` nhu+~ng chuye^.n ca^'p
ba'ch chu'ng ta ca^`n ba`n lua^.n va` tham gia.  Dda^y la` lu'c chu'ng ta
ba('t tay va`o la`m, du` la` vie^.c nho? to+'i dda^u ddi nu+~a cu~ng la` 
vie^.c co' i'ch lo+.i cho quo^'c gia da^n to^.c, chu+' kho^ng hy vo.ng nu+~a.

To^i vie^'t cu~ng kha' da`i ro^`i.  To^i xin ke^'t thu'c cuo^.c ba`n lua^.n 
va` ta^m su+. giu+~a chu'ng ta o+? dda^y.

Do a small thing for Vietnam today.

Tha^n,

David.

From: lpham@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Leslie Pham)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1992 20:37:49 GMT
Subject: tho*: Mo^.t ddo*`i dde^? ye^u.....
Organization: HP Scientific Instruments Division - Palo Alto, CA