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From: johnc@porsche.cs.rpi.edu (John Colasante)
Subject: Re: Kramer/Spadowski
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Computer Science, Troy NY
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:25:08 GMT


   Some would call this flame baiting...
   I'm sorry, I haven't had a TV that long.  Really.
   Is the guy who plays Kramer the same guy who
   did Stanley Spadowski in Weird Al's "UHF?"
   Sorry for asking, it's probably in the FAQ,
   I know...

   Thanks anyhow.

   Jeff

Listen Jeff, the contributers to this newsgroup are really
nasty and they'll rip your head off for a question like this; 
but I'm gonna try to help you out. The answer is YES, but don't
you DARE ask that or any question like it again, you hear?
I went out on a limb for you buddy. If you must ask another
FAQ here you're on your own, but try to mitigate yourself
more next time by saying "I know I'm a complete pion who doesn't
deserve to exist but...". That will ease the crew here down a bit.
Try not to be so brash with the question phrasing next time fella...

:>

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Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: kuyper@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Edward Kuyper)
Subject: rerun or not (1/6/93)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:24:56 GMT

Can someone please tell me if tonights show is a rerun. This is a matter of
national security.

                                           -ed

    good seinfeld quote "Oh now it's lupe's fault"
    great seinfeld quote "This is the greatest lock ever made.  There is just
                          one design flaw: the door must be closed 
                          for it to work"
From: dscott@crash.cts.com (D. Scott Bargabus)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: Rochelle, Rochelle
Date: 7 Jan 93 23:47:18 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

In <1993Jan7.031539.15847@ultb.isc.rit.edu> mds5142@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Shepherd) writes:

>After that episode, I can see how important the interaction between the
>characters on the show is.  The show was good, just not great.  Did
>others find it a bit lacking?

Actually, I thought it was pretty good.  I think this stems from having
had way too many similiar movie scheduling problems in the past.  It
was so hilarious hearing the characters describe each other!  I guess I
agree with you, good, just not great.

Scott
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: spinaa@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson)
Subject: Re: Strange happenings in a movie theater...
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:40:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.211353.17132@walter.bellcore.com> rspw@backyard.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Bob Warznak) writes:
>I know there were times in the past where someone I didn't know, in
>a public situation, made a reference to Seinfeld.  I know I'm also
>guilty of doing it.  The vague references are the best.  Sooo, I was
>wondering if this sort of thing has ever happened to anyone else?

In a supermarket checkout line, I jokingly pointed out the Pez dispensers on 
the candy rack to my sister. Then, the woman behind us in line blurted out,
"NO ONE eats Pez any more!" Kinda funny. 
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: goehring@infonode.ingr.com (Richard R Goehring)
Subject: Re: papaya king? (goes with movies)
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 02:07:54 GMT

rmc@davidge.com (Robert Cianchette) writes:


>(If you've seen the movie "Crossing Delancy", Amy Irving is in one of these
>joints when the painted woman comes in and sings "Some Enchanted Evening".)


  Just saw the beginning of _sea of love_ on tv and it looked like there
 was a "papaya king" shown in the opening street scene.  It looked a lot
 cheaper than the one on _Seinfeld_.  There were large "60 cent" signs on
 the windows.

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Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: mem@world.std.com (Jeff Lesser)
Subject: Re: rerun or not (1/6/93)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:54:01 GMT

kuyper@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Edward Kuyper) writes:

>Can someone please tell me if tonights show is a rerun. This is a matter of
>national security.

>                                           -ed

>    good seinfeld quote "Oh now it's lupe's fault"
>    great seinfeld quote "This is the greatest lock ever made.  There is just
>                          one design flaw: the door must be closed 
>                          for it to work"


Ads say it's a new one.
From: bscott@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ben Scott)
Subject: Re: Rochelle, Rochelle
Summary: Well, gee, I liked it... 
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 07:32:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.031539.15847@ultb.isc.rit.edu> mds5142@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Shepherd) writes:
>After that episode, I can see how important the interaction between the
>characters on the show is.  The show was good, just not great.  Did
>others find it a bit lacking?

Well, I liked it fine.  It was a tiny bit of a departure in that the plot
was actually a factor in some of the humor.  And towards the end they began
using the sitcom cliche of characters just missing each other repeatedly.
But the fake movie titles were good, and George's discomfort with being owed
money was good, and the guy bothering Jerry was not bad.  

Not the best but up to par, IMO.

I found the character's descriptions of each other to be very amusing -
though I never thought of Elaine as having a face like a frying pan...

.                            <<<<Infinite K>>>>

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From: paular@kubiki.Eng.Sun.COM (Paul Arthur)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: Rochelle, Rochelle
Date: 7 Jan 93 23:37:13 GMT
Reply-To: paular@kubiki.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: kubiki

Whatever last night's show was lacking, I did like the way the cast were describing
each other's faces and hair-do's to the employee's of the movie theatre's. 


#include standard_disclimer.h 
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: brenta@microsoft.com (Brent Aliverti)
Subject: Re: Strange happenings in a movie theater...
Date: 13 Jan 93 02:04:25 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1993Jan11.211353.17132@walter.bellcore.com> rspw@backyard.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Bob Warznak) writes:
>
>I know there were times in the past where someone I didn't know, in
>a public situation, made a reference to Seinfeld.  I know I'm also
>guilty of doing it.  The vague references are the best.  Sooo, I was
>wondering if this sort of thing has ever happened to anyone else?
>

My first indication that the guy in the office across the hall from me was
a Seinfeld fan was when he began answering his phone, "Yo Yo Ma!"

I had to smile (and wish I'd thought of it first)


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Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: mem@world.std.com (Jeff Lesser)
Subject: Re: Rochelle, Rochelle
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:02:13 GMT

mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.j.mizerak) writes:

>In article <1993Jan7.031539.15847@ultb.isc.rit.edu> mds5142@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Shepherd) writes:
>>After that episode, I can see how important the interaction between the
>>characters on the show is.  The show was good, just not great.  Did
>>others find it a bit lacking?


>Well, yes and no.  The plot was frustrating and recycled, but there
>were some good laughs.   I'd have to disagree with your pointing
>out "character interaction" as being important to this episode.  This
>was the most I think I've ever seen them *apart*.  I saw it as a 
>chance to let them each develop their characters individually.   Jerry
>was pretty good, esp when being brutally honest with that pesky guy.
>But I thought Elaine was best.  She was hysterical in her attempts to
>save seats, and then buying refreshments, and then trying to find her
>seat again.   Too funny.   Kramer and George were just annoying, for
>the most part.  Why does anyone even hang out with George?  What a
>pain.  :)

>Later,

>Tim
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I think he meant that character interaction is so important that the LACK
of it in this episode hurt the episode.
From: dsands@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu (Daniel Zev Sands, MD)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: PEZ for Christmas !!!!
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:03:22 GMT
Organization: Beth Israel Hospital, Harvard Medical School, Boston Mass., USA

In article <1993Jan05.172022.16349@kronos.com> dan@kronos.com (Dan Driscoll) writes:
>
>She offers the following PEZofile info: "The original PEZ, which are on display
>at the PEZ manufacturing plant (of which she has toured, I believe), do NOT 
>include feet."
 
I had a PEZ dispenser when I was visiting Germany in about 1965 (give
or take a few yrs) way before they were to be found in the U.S.  I
think it was a Disney character, but it might have been a nondescript
(non-Tweety) bird, I'm not sure.  God, I wish I'd saved it!
 

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Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: rrheaume@emr1.emr.ca (Roberta Rheaume (CPB))
Subject: Re: Rochelle, Rochelle
Organization: CPCS, Energy Mines & Resources, Canada
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:17:26 GMT

I thought this episode was really lacking.  They could have done more with 
George, Kramer and Jerry looking for Elaine in the theater.  Also, hated the 
other comic.  It was evident from the beginning of the show that he would 
stand in for Jerry in both comedy clubs, no surprise, except that he got 
applause for his act as he wasn't very funny.  However, loved Kramer trying 
to not get a frank from Papaya King and how he is always the winner and 
George the loser when both try to get into the movies without a ticket.

Anyway, just my opinion.  Looking foward, as always, to next week.

Roberta Rheaume
rrheaume@emr1.emr.ca
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: mhw@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Murphy)
Subject: Lack of Interaction
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:51:10 GMT


Given that most people here though the lack of interaction between the
characters hurt this particular episode, it looks like Kramer shouldn't be
given his own show, eh?

Sorry to resurrect that thread, but it had to be said.

And I agree with everyone else.  I missed seeing Jerry with the other three. 
But it was a classic example of how George always gets screwed while Kramer
gets away with everything: George kept having to give up the tickets while
Kramer just waltzed right into the theater and then winds up watching the
movie everyone else wanted to see (well, except maybe George).  Predictable
though it was, I found a strange sense of relief when they all found each
other.  And the pesky comic guy--has he been on before?  I couldn't STAND him!
 Man, YUCK!

Michelle
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: lowry@watson.ibm.com (Andy Lowry)
Subject: Re: Rochelle, Rochelle
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:20:35 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <1993Jan7.031539.15847@ultb.isc.rit.edu> mds5142@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Shepherd) writes:
 > After that episode, I can see how important the interaction between
 > the characters on the show is.  The show was good, just not great.
 > Did others find it a bit lacking?

It kinda reminded me of a typical Three's Company episode.  (That's a
"yes").
--
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: spinaa@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson)
Subject: Re: Rochelle, Rochelle
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 19:46:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.151627.9265@davidge.com> rmc@davidge.com (Robert Cianchette) writes:
>Aye!  What's wrong with me?  I LOVED this episode!  Qestion:  Do any of you
>folks who didn't like it attend movies often?  

I go to the movies a lot, so in a way it was sort of funny to see all the 
little problems dramatized on the show. But my main problem with this episode
was just that all the characters were being too stupid. In many episodes,
the characters' helplessness in a given situation provides the humor, but
in this case, it was way too exaggerated for my tastes. I mean, come on,
if adults can't figure out how to see a damn movie, what *can* they do??!?

Just another opinion......
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: jdelcol@eng.clemson.edu (delcollo joseph j)
Subject: Re: Strange happenings in a movie theater...
Reply-To: jdelcol@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:45:14 GMT

My friends and I find ourselves getting into all sorts of Seinfeldesque situations and performing Seinfeldisms. At football games we now yell "Stella" (from Elaine on the pain killers in Florida).
That is part of the appeal of the show. The stuff really does happen, and it's fun to clown around like they do. Plus they have some of the best expressions and conversation starters. Like when George meets Jerry at the restaurent and his first words are "I'm going straight to Hell"

Joe Del Collo


Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: etbeteille@happy.colorado.edu
Subject: JS on PBS
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 8 Jan 93 10:33:52 MDT


What .... NOBODY saw the interview with JS on the Charlie
Rose show last night?  I think it was new, because Rose
just took his talk show to a national PBS audience.

Good interview -- very serious, much more so than the
B. Walters talk.  Jerry went deep into why and how he
comes up with his comedy ... his HIGHLY structured private
life (the rows of 20-30 pairs of Nike sneakers that CANNOT
get scuffed) ... how he went from making his family laugh,
to making his friends laugh, to getting completely unknown
people to PAY for him to get them to laugh ... his proudest
personal moments (on stage, in front of 7,000 people) ...
how highly he regards his fellow cast members and their
talent ... he said any of them could carry their own show
... how the show is different than others because the
COMEDIAN is the most stable character (unlike "Martin," etc.).
                                                              
Rose showed the clip from when Jerry and George pitched their
TV show ideas to the NBC exec.  The interview was about 20 mins,
uninterrupted.  (This was PBS, after all.)  Hopefully, they'll
repeat it someday.

			******

BTW, a lot of you are wrong, IMHO ... the movie episode was a lot
better than the parking space episode ... a lot less yelling
and whining overall, and it was refreshing to get out of JS's
apartment ... And sure, they used some standard sitcom situations,
(people JUST missing each other, etc.), but they used them
REPEATEDLY, as opposed to the other "Three's Company" shows that
would've been happy just using them once.

Rubber pencils to you all,
Eric.
From: WDENNEN@CCVM.sunysb.edu (Bill Dennen)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Strange happenings in a movie theater...
Date: 11 Jan 1993 12:55:45 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


This past weekend, I went to see "Scent of a Woman" in Greenwich, CT. (Great
movie, by the way - one of the best I've ever seen).

Anyway, just as the movie was starting, tons of people, from all parts of
the theater started yelling...

    "George...!"

     "Elaine!"

     "Kramer!"

     "Jerry!"


It went on for a few minutes. It was hilarious!!!!!


Actually, I just remembered something else that happened. I got to the theater
about 45 minutes before the movie started. There was a huge line outside.
I went up to someone and asked if that was the line for "Scent of a Woman."
He said "Yeah." Then he said, "But we all have tickets!" I immediately thought
of the Seinfeld episode. Then, his buddy said... "This sounds like last week's
Seinfeld!"


Anyway, it was interesting!
Bill
From: dan@kronos.com (Dan Driscoll)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: PEZ for Christmas !!!!
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:20:22 GMT
Organization: Kronos Inc. / Waltham, MA
Disclaimer: This posting is a personal opinion and not that of Kronos Inc.

OK. All this PEZ talk has prompted me to get off my duff and go over to our
resident PEZmaster's desk, rip open her PEZ drawer and do inventory:

1. Sylvester - I gave her this for Christmas (to validate the subject line).
2. Garfield
3. Wonder Woman
4. Halloween Skull
5. Easter Lamb
6. Goofy
7. Halloween Pumpkin
8. Bugs Bunny
9. Easter Chick in Egg
10. Girl Smurf
11. Boy Smurf
12. Mickey Mouse
13. Spider Man
14. Santa
15. Snowman
16. Halloween Witch
17. Daffy Duck
18. Pluto

Her known PEZ needs include: Batman, Tweety.

She offers the following PEZofile info: "The original PEZ, which are on display
at the PEZ manufacturing plant (of which she has toured, I believe), do NOT 
include feet."

More PEZtrivia to follow.

-dan@kronos.com
From: albcraj@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu (Craig Albert)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: papaya king?
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:54:55 GMT
Followup-To: alt.tv.seinfeld
Organization: Public Macs, Yale University

In article <1993Jan9.154008.9394@davidge.com>, rmc@davidge.com (Robert
Cianchette) wrote:
> 

> A few notes regarding Papaya King.  Much as the name "Ray" is ubiquitous in
> New York Pizza shop names, "Papaya" is used by dozens of hot dog stands in
> New York, whether or not they're part of the same chain.  

> They serve
> cheapo, skinny hot dogs and sugar-water tropical fruit drinks.  The dogs are 
> 50 or 60 cents each; and you can get 2 dogs and a large drink for about $1.90.
> The cheap dogs are the attraction; the sugar-water drinks are how they make 
> money.

As a life-long New Yorker, I'll take issue with this.  While "Papaya" is
indeed used by many stands, there's only one true "Papaya King" -- the
original, with locations on 59th and on 86th Streets.  I grew up near the
one on 86th and Third, and for my money there's no comparison between their
product and those of the many imitators.  

But I'm not alone in this view.  Bryan Miller, food critic for the New York
Times, reviewed the various papaya/frank joints on 8/21/91.  An excerpt
follows:


    "PAPAYA KING'S  original shop, 59th Street and Third Avenue. At the
frenetic
corner across from Bloomingdale's, this papaya vendor is always buzzing. It
has
a clean, efficient demeanor and a festive appearance, with paper bananas
and
pineapples dangling overhead, signs promoting the health benefits of papaya
juice, and a courteous staff. The hot dogs, a sign overhead proclaims, are
"tastier than filet mignon." Well, suffice to say that they are good, beefy
franks, fresh and well cooked, and are served on warm rolls. The hot dogs
have a
nice juicy "pop" when you bite into them.

   "There is no comparison between the juices here and at the imitators. At
 Papaya King  the papaya drink, which is cut with milk and sugar, actually
tastes like papaya (although it is still too sweet to my taste). The decent
pina
colada has little shards of coconut in it.


 "PAPAYA KING,  Third Avenue and 86th Street. It's clear you are in another
original, not an imitation. Not only are the premises clean and festive,
with
more paper fruit decoration overhead, but the stand serves fruit drinks
that
taste somewhat like fruit. I liked the Tropical Breeze, a blender
concoction of
papaya drink (they add milk and sugar to the basic blend) and fresh
strawberries. The regular papaya drink is good, too, as is the mango. Skip
the
syrupy, one-dimensional passion fruit. Like its sister establishment, 
Papaya
 King  serves hot dogs on toasted rolls. The hot dogs are fresh, beefy
flavored
and well cooked."


For anybody who's interested, there was an accompanying article on that day
tracing the history of melding franks and papaya, and there were also
reviews of the other "resataurants."


Craig Albert     albcraj@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Friday, 8 Jan 1993 12:36:46 PST
From: <CONTAOI@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: Seinfeld's Moving


NBC is in BIG trouble!  After the end of last season NBC decided to
drop one of it's more popular shows-Golden Girls-because it did not want
to spend the money that Disney/Touchstone was asking.  Instead they
wanted to focus their time, energy and money into their "premier"
show-Cheers,(how much longer did they think that should would last?).
They dropped several other shows too.  Now that they are losing Cheers
what is NBC going to promote as their
"premier" show?

The only good thing NBC has going for them is Seinfield and Letterman.
Perhaps the only way they can get people hooked on Seinfield is by
sandwiching it in between Cheers. There will probably be a lot of
that through the rest of the season.

BTW, in the bay area NBC primetime starts at 7:00 p.m, so I can watch
Seinfield at 8:00 pm and Home Improvement on ABC at 9:00-it's a wonderful
arrangement!!!


_______________________________________________________________________
These are my opinions and no one else's-

Contaoi@SLACVM
_______________________________________________________________________
From: cg008@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill Quigley)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Seinfeld's Moving
Date: 5 Jan 1993 21:11:43 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


NBC has decided to move Seinfeld to Thursday Night at 9:30 EST
in February for the Winter Sweeps period.  While I think this
is a pretty decent move (my 2 favorite comedies are now on back 
to back) I realy feel that this could hurt the show's ratings
by confusing people trying to find the show.  Of course in that time 
slot they don't have to compete with Home Improvement.  
-- 
Bill Quigley cg008
"Theres a naked woman accross the street, Im in this stupid contest,
and I'm dating a virgin, somthings gotta give!"            
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