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From: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: U2 broadcast
Date: 1 Sep 1992 14:00:26 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, blc@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Bradford Lee Chamberlain) says:

>Did anyone happen to tape the Global Satellite Network broadcast
>with U2 on Friday night?  I have a friend who missed it and would
>like to hear it.  E-mail to me and we can probably arrange a 
>trade...
>
>-Brad
>blc@xenon.stanford.edu

I heard it, but I didn't tape it.

However, I found th is strange:

They went through the members of the band and asked them what type of
music they listen to

One said that they just bought the Singles sound track and they liked
it.  Another one listens to Hole and bands like that.  A third likes
industrial (he mentioned KMFDM, Nitzer Ebb, etc.)  And, Bono thinks the
Disposable Hero.. album is great.
>
>

-- 
Eric Rickin (ab870@cleveland.freenet.edu)
University of Michigan Class of 1996
"I would like to thank the vice president, ...the television academy,
and the members of the cultural elite." - Candice Bergen
From: Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Virginia A. Reed)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: What is alternative?
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:46:08 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Actually industrial, new wave/age, postmodern and cyberpunk are all
alternative.

Industrial is pretty easy to identify just by listening, but there are
some examples of bands that are hard to classify as industrial. If you
ask the average Joe or Phred off the street what Nine Inch Nails is,
they'd probably tell U, "Industrial." But if you ask the connoisseur of
industrial music they would disagree.I myself consider NIN to be
cyberpunk.

Postmodern music is more in the line of Depeche Mode, one of the three
founders of postmodern music in my opinion. The other two being New
Order and Talking Heads. Again, there are some semi-postmodern bands
like Alphaville and Anything Box. Alphaville is a combonation of rock,
new wave and postmodern. Anything Box is a pop-postmodern fusion band.

                     Comments? E-mail me.

                          Thanx, 
                             Alex Reed
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: Ernest Paik <emp1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Ride info
X-Xxdate: Fri, 28 Aug 92 16: 16:29 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: emp1@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:11:49 GMT

hernande@cs.tulane.edu (Oliver Hernandez)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: hudson@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (David Hudson)
Subject: Re: You think THAT'S a ripoff? Was: (RE: Killing joke sues Nirvana
Organization: UCLA Dept of Astronomy
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:34:03 PDT

In article <1992Aug26.195748.23319@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Virginia A. Reed) writes:
>Annoncing the biggest ripoff in history..."Stairway to Heaven" by Led
>Zeppelin. They took the chord sequence and basic tune from Gilligan's
>Island. If you play melodies of Stairway and Gilligan's Island
>together, they fit perfectly together. Led Zep. should have called it
>"Variations on the Gilligan's Island Theme"
>
>                                             ALEX

	When KLSX (97.1) did their top 971 songs of the year during the
Memorial day weekend, they replayed the top 20 or so songs (I don't
remember exactly).  The decided to play the number one song early
and as a joke though played a strange cover someone had done of
the music of "Stairway" played to the lyrics of Gilligan's Island.
I have no idea who the artist was, but it was very funny.


						Dave
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Major labels going off the deep end, folks...
Date: 29 Aug 92 22:41:16 GMT
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.

In article <1992Aug29.015916.15445@samba.oit.unc.edu> Mark.Cornick@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Mark Cornick) writes:
>
>By now you have probably heard that Columbia has signed Mercury Rev, the
>exceptionally bizarre, difficult-but-rewarding acid psychedelic band led
>by former Flaming Lip John "Dingus" Donahue. But if you thought that was
>strange, guess who Elektra just signed... no, not El Vez... WEEN. Yes,
>Ween. Ween, the playable-at-any-speed, high-on-Scotchgard, demented,
>crazed band that Spin praised as "the greatest band on Earth" (typical
>Spin hyperbole, but they are pretty good.)
>
>Dean and Gene Ween, headed for a major label. Who's next, Foetus? :)

   How about the Melvins on Atlantic?

   How about the Muffs on Warner Brothers?

   How about Shonen Knife on MCA?

                                                             K!z!K
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Subject: Re: Ramones, punk rock, XRaySpex, others (lots)
Organization: Victoria University of Technology
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 08:20:46 GMT

ben@athena.mit.edu (Ben) writes:
>	Some other good '77 punk to start with is, obviously, the Sex Pistols, whom Benny probably already knows about; the Buzzcocks' singles compilation, 
>Singles Going Steady; either of the Radio Birdman LPs; the Saints' Eternally 
>Yours; Menace and Eater, if you can find any; definitely Richard Hell; and two 
>heavy Detroit bands that predate the Ramones, the Stooges (Iggy Pop's old band)
> and the MC5.  You might like Generation X (the band, not the novel) though I  
>don't care for them beyond one song- they're certainly fairly important.  

I also suggested Richard Hell and was suprised not many other people
mentioned him. Johny Thunders is also similar.

Jed
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu (Mark Schnitzius)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Ramones
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:41:48 GMT
Organization: University of Central Florida

cug@rigel2.concordia.ca ( Computer Users Group ) writes:

>In article <1992Aug25.175258.2856@sci.kun.nl> beker@sci.kun.nl (B.P.T.M. Beker) writes:
>>I really like the Ramones, and that's why I like to know if there are any
>>other groups that play the same kind of music (I think it's called punk
>>rock) and are (almost) as good as the Ramones.

>It IS called 'punk rock'!!
>Why don't you try the New York Dolls, The Clash, The Sex Pistols, Wire, 
>The Buzzcocks, but nobody is really the Ramones except the Ramones.  From NYC,
>at the same time as The Ramones, try Television, Patti Smith, and Talking Heads

Early stuff by Stiff Little Fingers should go in this category, too.  Check
out the _Inflammable Material_ album.

m*rk
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
From: ljason@wam.umd.edu (L. Jason colton)
Subject: Cracker, Yet Again!
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 06:59:06 GMT


	Howdy oh enlightened beings of this computerized world.

	I got to see Cracker again, at Hammerjacks in Baltimore.  Lots
of air condiontioning, and LOVELY waitresses.  Though the opening band
sounded like the Stray Cats after a very long, depressed night
of drinking.

	What a great show.  I'm now beginning to see the real wisdom in 
writing 3-chord rock 'n' roll songs: it allows you to worry less about 
the music, and instead just have FUN with it!!
	And they did.

	Anyway, the Reason For This Post:  I am wondering if anyone out there
has gotten a hold of any tapes from Cracker shows.  Most importantly,
I am earnestly after the lyrics to a tune of theirs called "Eurotrash Girl."
It's really funny, and oh so poignant in that Dave Lowery sort of way,
but as yet unreleased.
	I've posted before on this subject, but the band's been around the
country again, so perhaps there are some more tapes floating around.

		So:
			Do YOU have any Cracker boots or related 
			paraphanelia?

			well then Pleeze lemmee know......


			thanks bunches,


			ljason@wam.umd.edu.          O-|--<

			`hey you want to start a war?
			 I'm tired of this old one.'
						-CamperVanBeethovenlives.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: snark@bmerh327.BNR.CA (Eric Nelson)
Subject: Ministry 
Reply-To: snark@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR Ottawa, Fiber Systems Development
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 13:29:03 GMT

Im getting into Ministry, but don't want to buy all of the
albums they have and toss the ones I don't like.  The band
seems to have changed style over the years from dance to
grunge industrial stuff. 

If I like 'The Land of Rape and Honey' better than '80-84 12 inch
singles' (i.e. Halloween, etc) what other albums will I like?

Also - I'd like to find other bands (Skinny Puppy?).  Other 
recomended listening would be most grand.

    Thanks,

Eric Nelson (snark@bnr.ca)      BNR FWP OSI AIF for OAM&P 

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: simondun@ecr.mu.oz.au (Simon DUNSTALL)
Subject: Re: new newsgroups will not make a difference
Summary: what happened to '='?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 02:17:41 GMT

What's the hassle guys? don't you have an '=' sign in your read news?

Shit, all the cure fans tend to but big fat 'cure' or 'robert'
in the subject.. all the mozza's do likewise.
I am a curist, but not just. the other stuff that appears here i listen
to as well.

No-one is stupid enough to read through all of the articles are they?
At least not *every* day. Somedays maybe I will. I haven't got that much 
time though.

Anyway- the idea is to expose people to new music, the group
needs to appeal generally in order to be diverse, and get the little bands popular
so we can *all* see them and hear their music.
And the popular alternative (?) bands still are worth talking about, at least
that's what i think, and probably a few others.

> cases.  I think The Cure deserve their own newsgroup, mostly because I
> don't care to read about them.  As for the first problem, it cannot ever

I've accidentally erased the name of the guy who wrote the article I'm refering to.
Oh well. I agree with you though... some of it anyway. Yes, the Cure *do* need their
own little world, and they *do* (babble). Babble spews out about 15 things a day, and
i would'nt like to see it all over here.

si.
From: poole@castor.cs.uga.edu (Bryan Poole)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Kristin Hersh Live at Maxwell's CD
Summary: Anybody know the date?
Date: 26 Aug 92 04:35:58 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Hey, I tried posting a similar message a couple of days ago, but I don't
think it went through for some reason.

I finally found the Throwing Muses _Red_Heaven_ that also contains
the Kristin Hersh Live at Maxwell's, Hoboken CD. I was just
wondering if anybody knew the date of the recording. I collect
lots of recordings was just curious about this missing info.
Also, anybody know how many pressings of this there were?

For those haven't obtained it yet, the CD is just Kristin with an
acoustic guitar. The songs sound VERY somber. She might have had her
guitar tuned to Eb or something. It's a good broad spectrum though as
far as song selection. It's not something I'd like listening to
again and again, but I am very grateful to own. The CD case is way
cool. Both CD's fit in one jewel box (called a Brilliant Box).
You can flip the inside plastic holder which holds the CD's one on
each side. It's great. Why somebody didn't have the insight for this
years ago, I don't know.

l8r
=-=--=-==-=====--=--=-===-=-=-=
= Bryan Poole = Boots Anyone? -
-   poole@castor.cs.uga.edu   =
=-=-=-=-=--===--=---=-=---=--==
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: dube@carson.u.washington.edu (Ric Dube)
Subject: Re: Ramones
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:54:12 GMT


Here's a new thread.  What's your favorite Ramones record.

ric
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Flying Nun bands
From: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 03:18:22 GMT
Reply-To: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
 <1992Aug29.195201.559@athena.mit.edu> <1992Aug31.120508.10464@waikato.ac.nz>,<BtuI04.H4u@comp.vuw.ac.nz>
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ

In article <BtuI04.H4u@comp.vuw.ac.nz>, Richard.Edgar@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Richard Edgar) writes:
>
>- Head Like A Hole: Wellington grunge band who regularly strip naked at their 
>	concerts. Rumoured to be the next big NZ band overseas, we'll see.
>	Have an album called _13_, and a single, cant remember the name.

The e/p is titled Fish Across Face, Wildside records, at the release party
at the Car Park, they were giving away copies of it.


>
>cheers
>Rich
--
Red
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: ndarvish@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Is Peter Gabriel Touring?
Organization: Clark University
Date: 2 SEP 92 17:27:07 GMT


        Does anyine out there know if Peter Gabriel will be touring the US
following the release of his new album?
        More specifically, what are his stops in the north east?

                        Thanks,
                                Noxx
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: 890707p@ace.acadiau.ca (GLENN G. PARSONS)
Subject: Lowest of the low
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 17:50:25 GMT

Has anyone heard the debut by this rockin acoustic\electric folkish (a 
little) Canadian band?  I've heard two songs, and they both just rocked. I'm 
wondering what the album is like?

                                               Mickj
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: flower@camelot.bradley.edu (Heather Matanock)
Subject: Re: Matthew Sweet
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:53:49 GMT

In <1992Aug27.120107.18299@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin) writes:


>I like Matthew Sweet, but how many songs on this "Girlfriend" album deal
>with females?  It seems to me, most of them!

	this may be true but don't a lot of songs released these days 
	have to do with male/female relationships.  it has been, is 
	and always will be the main topic of songs.
--
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From: mcginnis@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: WANTED: TONI HALLIDAY
Date: 3 Sep 92 10:06:16 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

Hi,
I was wondering if anybody out there knew where I could get a copy ( or indeed
wants to get rid of their copy of) 'Hearts and Handshakes' by Toni Halliday.
This is the UK title ( I assume it was the sameeverywhere else) and was
released ( in UK) summer 1988. Unfortunately it was deleted here in June 1990.
If anyone has a copy, preferably on CD, and is willing to sell, or knows where
I can get one, please reply.
Thanx, 
Dermo		Dermot McGinnis		mcginnis@ccvax.ucd.ie
		Chemical Engineering Dept.
		University College Dublin, Ireland
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From: stclair@ldgo.columbia.edu (moanna stclair)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.cd
Subject: REM CDs
Keywords: R.E.M., CDs
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:05:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory

Can anyone out there help me?  I am about to get my first cd player
and need help choosing which cds by R.E.M.actually sound great on cd.
A friend of my warned me that sometimes old or poor recordings are used
which sound horrible on the compact disc medium.  Also does anyone
know which R.E.M. album has the song "Superman" on it??? 

Thanks in advance, Athena
From: ben@athena.mit.edu (Ben)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Oi! music
Date: 29 Aug 92 19:09:40 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Has Anders Engvall actually heard any oi bands, or just heard that they were 
(morally, politically and/or musically) bad? The data he gives on who Gary 
Bushell was and what he did are correct, but some of the best punk rock 
music around was made by bands considered "oi," notably the Blood, Cock 
Sparrer, Cockney Rejects, Neurotics/Newtown Neurotics and the Business. Sham 69 and U.K Subs, two of the first bands tagged "oi," were better known and still
pretty good. 	
  In general, they were lower-class kids from London who liked punk and early 
ska and resented the middle-class focus and general artiness of the other 
things that were going on in London in 78-80; they created a simple, slightly 
slowed-down and more anthemic version of punk for themselves. Bushell coined 
the term, but he sure as hell didn't invent the bands. Many oi! comps 
exist, most are at least worth listening to, almost all of them have the 
word "oi" in the title (making a listing unneccessary), and many contain 
spoken-word "rants" by people like Attila the Stockbroker. The music was 
affiliated with skinheads in general, *not* all  of whom were nazi/National 
Front types-- the Newtown Neurotics were socialists who sang about nuclear 
disarmament and the impending petroleum shortage (as well as their wish that 
London pubs would stay open later). 

Check this music out.


steve burt
c/o ben@athena.mit.edu
From: blosser_cy@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: LOLLA MAY NOT BE PERFECT...
Date: 3 Sep 92 10:49:08 GMT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

>From:	MX%"gristle@netcom.com"  3-SEP-1992 02:05:06.45
>Subj:	Re: LISTEN UP, PEOPLE!!! (read this, please)

>do you think anyone really got educated at Lolla?

A small faction of the audience, yes. I posted that message hoping I might
reach a few more newsgroup readers.

>Bringing political parties to a concert attended by white upper class kids
>who care more about fashion than music acheives nothing. It is like yelling
>at the deaf.

Not so. I noticed quite a few white upper-class kids engaged in heated debates
or intense discussions with the pc representatives. Apparently, they learned a
lot of things their parents, teachers and the media refuses to disclose, about
our government and the corruption within. Perhaps they left the concert with a
deeper understanding of political issues, at best, we can hope they've planted
within themselves the small seed of skepticism that will remind them not to be
live everything they hear in school, read in newspapers, or see on television.
There always is another side of the story that remains to be told. And, better
to reach the kids at a concert-gathering where they're gathered en masse...or,
do you have a better idea?

>All Lolla does is raise money for Perry and his glam scene. If he wanted
>to *really* educate people, he'd pay for them to fly to Serbia.

...as if Perry would have enough to do that. But hey, next year he could stage
a tour in Serbia, if you'd make the suggestion. 

>Lollapalooza is about making once-great music into mundane boring corporate
>shit. Its a good thing that there are more bands now than there are venues
>to hold them, so there is some gap of time before people become sellouts.

If Nirvana or REM were one of the headlining acts, then I'd agree with you on
the 'sellout' bit. Personally, I think Pearljam, Soundgarden, and the Peppers
did just fine.

>Slamming to Ministry. what a joke.

Oh, PLEASE. You aren't one of those 'gee, i wish Ministry weren't so hard--my
ears are tender and can't be damaged by such noise' wimps. Ministry is harder
and better, and they've got the fans to prove it. If you want, go put on some
Depeche Mode or something...otherwise get a life.

So tell me, what have YOU done to educate the youth on the problems of today?
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: c9111456@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (Fight War not wars)
Subject: Re: Ramones
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 04:32:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.200850.4972@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, stocker@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (William Stocker) writes:
> In article <1992Aug25.175258.2856@sci.kun.nl> beker@sci.kun.nl (B.P.T.M. Beker) writes:
>>
>>Hi there,
>>
>>I really like the Ramones, and that's why I like
>>to know if there are any other groups that play
>>the same kind of music (I think it's called punk
>>rock) and are (almost) as good as the Ramones.
> 

try getting some stuff from an Australian band called the Meanies........

I am a big ramones fan and the meanies are quite similar to the Ramones 
just a bit more hard core.......

So if anyone can find some meanies records take my advise and buy it.


James


Best Ramoes Album.........Ramones 'Ramones' a truely all time clasic
record.

 
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From: mb7z+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michel Angelo Battaglia)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: PLEEASE help me name this song!!!!
Date: 28 Aug 92 09:05:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.IebZmyG00awX88_UVR
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

That's "Tasty Fish" by the Other Two. 
it's Gillian and Stephen from New Order (geddit, the other two?) 
they've also done the theme to America's Most Wanted
Does anyone have any info about future releases?

Mike
From: wiatr-m@acsu.buffalo.edu (Marc Wiatrowski)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Bare Naked Ladies?
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:43:35 GMT
Organization: UB

speaking of "Gordon"   does anybody no way "McDonald's Girl" was
not put on the album? 

marc
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: ben@athena.mit.edu (Ben)
Subject: Ex-bands of Sugar members
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 19:25:37 GMT

The other two members of Sugar are Malcolm Travis, ex-drummer for the Zulus,
and David Barbe, ex-main person for the Atlanta band Mercyland. If you 
ever see the Mercyland single "Tough Ass Knives," buy it-- think AmRep, 
but a lot catchier and less deliberately obnoxious than you'd expect of the 
AmRep repertoire.

Have fun. And thanks for quoting my favorite Pavement song.

steve burt
c/o ben@athena.mit.edu
"I've got a lot of good things coming my way, and I'm afraid that you're not 
one of them..."
From: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Big Chief? / SubPop=Seattle / SST Discussion
Date: 1 Sep 1992 23:55:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, Mark.Cornick@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Mark Cornick) says:

>Most of the early Sub Pop bands (i.e. Green River, Tad, Mudhoney) were
>from Seattle, but recently they've been signing mostly non-Seattle bands
>since a) they're trying to diversify, and b) there are a lot of Seattle
>bands today who are pretty jaded and don't realize how hard they suck.
>
>I think Sup Pop basically became "the Seattle label" by default more than
>by choice. Somebody probably heard Mudhoney, thought they were cool, and
>proclaimed SP to be a Cool Label. Kinda like with My Bloody Valentine and
>Creation Records. SP and Creation, among other labels, have both put out
>more than their share of utter schitt.

True.  If you think of it, though, SST and SubPop are kinda competing
for the same type of market.  They both offer the same type of music.
When was SubPop started and when was SST started?

In any case, you listed some SubPop bands that eventually migrated to
big labels.  Howerver, it seems that SST made out a lot better on the
bands they signed:

Buffalo Tom, Soundgarden, Sonic Youth, Screaming Trees, Husker Du, Black
Flag, Dinosaur Jr., Negativland, Firehose,

Of course, all they have left is Leaving Trains.

Something, though, is nagging at me and telling me that:

1) SST bought Husker Du's Catalog because Husker Du is older than SST
(of ocurse, I don't know when either SST or Husker Du first started)
and..
2) SST bought Black Flag's catalog to solidify the label.  When did
black flag begin and end?

Who started SST?  Who started SubPop?
-- 
Eric Rickin (ab870@cleveland.freenet.edu)
University of Michigan Class of 1996
"I would like to thank the vice president, ...the television academy,
and the members of the cultural elite." - Candice Bergen
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