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From: andrewc@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew J. Cosgriff !)
Subject: Re: Linux 0.99pl4
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:14:15 GMT

henderso@netcom.com (Mark Henderson) writes:

>In article <jahoward.727842837@help.cc.iastate.edu> jahoward@iastate.edu (Jim) writes:
>>Good report.  99-pl4 compiled absolutely perfect first time.
>>Easiest compile ever.  If it runs as good as it compiled, we
>>could have something here :)
>>
>>Jim
>Just to add some data.
>As with 0.99.3 I need to compile with CONFIG_AUTO_IRQ turned off
>to get the serial drivers to work.

>This wasn't the case with 0.99.2

Hmmm, well it's okay on mine, and hasn't worked until about 0.99.0 (before then it didn't)

Ah well, we're getting there anyway...


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: vds7789@aw2.fsl.ca.boeing.com (Vincent D. Skahan)
Subject: Re: SLS: how do we know we've caught up ?
Organization: none
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:42:23 GMT

pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald) writes:

>Actually, currently there really isn't a "version" of SLS.  Instead, each
>package can be updated without notice.

I know...I meant 'version of each kit' but if you do something like make
v1.0000 mean the whole virgin distribution and make the next update of
a kit (whatever it is) v1.001, the one after that v1.002, etc. it'll wind
up being the same.

>What was just added to SLS is that, everytime you install a disk, it
>updates a file in /install/disks/diskXN with the package name, and
>the size in bytes of the package.  Thus you can always tell if the
>package you installed is the same size as some other one.  And thus,
>with 99.9% certainty, you should be able to tell if you have the
>same package.

not for a1 and a2. They're always the same size.


>Now this by itself is of marginal value, but I plan on implementing a
>(bash) script that will drive an automatic updating scheme based upon
>this information.  Thus the "version" of SLS will be the sum of all
>these sizes.  ie, it can determine the current version, and update
>accordingly.

you can't sum all the sizes because we don't all install all of SLS.
So my 'sum-of-the-sizes' is different from everybody else's.

>This scheme is not bullet proof, but exacts nearly zero overhead, and
>in practice should be quite reliable.  And, most important of all, doesn't
>exact any extra administrative overhead.  It also has the advantage that
>you can always find which disk a package is on by doing:
>	fgrep pkg.tpz /install/disks/disk*

can you really?
won't it just tell you where *your installed copy* of it came from ?

but in general, what you're coming up with is along the lines of what
I was asking for.  I want something to:

	- positively know what version of what kit(s) I've installed
	- positively know what the CURRENT version of all kits is
	- positively know what disk the CURRENT version of everything
		is supposed on

	- and most importantly, do it for ZERO work for me (as a user)
		and hopefully close to zero work for you too :-)


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From: pep@wicked.demon.co.uk (Phil Packer)
Subject: Re: 3c501 driver
Reply-To: pep@wicked.demon.co.uk
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.30 $
Organization: No chance
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:02:22 +0000

In article <wfLhEPu00VB94BSYp1@andrew.cmu.edu> "Brian E. Gallew" <geek+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> I have *suddenly* come into desperate need for a 3C501 Ethernet
> driver.  I also kinda need it in the near future.  I have someone who
> needs a print server and understand that linux can do it.
> Unfortuantely, *every* Ethernet card in the department is a 3C501
> (unless an Etherlink card is a 3C502?).  Kernel version isn't
> important.  I don't even care if it drops packets left and right, just
> as long as it get enough to function.  Thanks!
> 
>                                   -Brian
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> -------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now, if we had a 3C509 driver...... 8-)
 
Phil

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From: butler@cs.tulane.edu (Larry Butler)
Subject: Re: [Q] Compressed Filesystem? Interest?
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:30:23 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-8041]: poseidon

>
>I think that this is way too much code to put in the kernel for backup
>purposes only.  To implement it, you would have to write an anti-compressed

I agree totally. I thing this is going _way_ overboard. A lot of effort
could be saved (for the programmers and the people doing backups) if a better
utility for backing up was created.

>(and a .Z or whatever tacked onto the filename).  In fact, it might be
>really trivial to hack an `input compress' option to gnu tar that is 
>compatible with the multi volume system and does not risk total loss at
>the corruption of a single byte.

That's a great idea. This would be usefull to regular users as well as
system administrators.

Larry
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From: becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker)
Subject: Seeking Linux alpha-testers with HP-LAN ethercards.
Keywords: fs
Organization: IDA Supercomputing Research Center
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:21:15 GMT


I'm seeking some volunteers for some medical experimentation.  Uhmmm,
wait, no, uhmm, for some... ethercard alpha testing.  Yeah, that's the
ticket.

You must have access to a 8390-based HP-LAN adaptor on a machine
running Linux on an active TCP/IP network.  And (best mad-doctor
smile) you'll feel a little pressure but it won't hurt a bit.


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Supercomputing Research Center
17100 Science Drive, Bowie MD 21114		   301-805-7482
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mfrankow@piper.hamline.edu. (Mike Frankowski)
Subject: Re: [Q] x windows on Orchid Fahrenheit 1280 ?
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: comp.os.linux
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:03:20 GMT

Philip William Stephenson (philips@cae.wisc.edu) wrote:
: Hi-
: The subject says it all (i think).  Has anyone gotten Xfree 1.1 to run with
: an Orchid Fahrenheit?  My monitor is a NEC 4D.
: Thanks,
: Phil

You need a different server, XS3 server.  CHeck nic.funet.fi or sunsite.unc.edu
or ftp.robots.???  can't remember the rest.

I run with the Fahrenheit 1280, works great.

Mike
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:06:52 -0500 
From: Peter William Wieland <pw1r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: HELP: Problems with groups


I've been having problems getting the user directory's (home/peter,
home/alex, etc...) group set properly.  Linux seems to change them back
on the fly.

I've made a new group using groupadd, made the new users using useradd
and then tried to chgrp their home directories.  The group changes and
shows up properly when I do an ls -l, but after about 30 seconds, the
group is changed to 232 or 233 (neither of which exists in /etc/group). 
I've noticed, however, that the group won't change back if that user is
logged in on another console, but once you logout the group changes
shortly after.

I've tried syncing immediately afterwards but the group still changes
thirty seconds (or so) later.  I've tried adding the group by hand to
/etc/group and adding the users by hand to /etc/passwd but it won't work
right.

Has anyone had this happen to them before.  I've been working on two
separate installations of SLS 1.0 and it happens on both of them.  Is
there some way to get around/fix this bug, or am I just being really
stupid?

Thanx
-Peter Wieland
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None of the ideas expressed above are acutally mine.  They are told to
me by Luthor and Ferdinand, the five inch tall space aliens who live
under my desk.  In return for these ideas, I have given them persmision
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From: marc@r-node.pci.on.ca (Marc G Fournier)
Subject: New SLS distribution...minor problems
Organization: R-node Public Access Unix - 1 416 249 5366
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:29:15 GMT

Hi...

	First off...Peter...great job on the new distribution.

	I'm having a couple of small problems and figure someone
out there may have already over come these :)

	The main one, at least as far as I'm concerned, is with
'top'....it won't run :(  The first time I tried, it  gave me a
'floating point exception' error...now it just gives me  the top
of the screen and then the prompt (no cursor though)  If it is
just a matter of recompilng it, could someone tell me where to find
it?

	Hmmm...maybe it wasn't so many questions after all...oh ya,
could someone tell me how to do up the ftpaccess file?  Or where
I can find a man page for it?  Basically, I would like to set up
an 'anonymous' account for ftp, but it keeps asking for a passwd.
By scanning the ftpaccess file, I think it  might have something
to do with that, but I'm generally in the dark about tcp/ip right
now....I've never configured it before :(  In general, pointers
would be nice :)

Thanks ...

Marc
	
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From: mcallist@logdis1.SM.AFLC.AF.MIL (Ron McAllister)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: NEED VGA HELP
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:19:36 GMT
Reply-To: mcallist@logdis1.SM.AFLC.AF.MIL (Ron McAllister)
Organization: The Internet


Hi.

I have a WD 90C11 w/512k mem, and a programmable clock chip.  I have been told
than in 640x480 mode, the clock is 25 mhz, and in 640x400 is 28.328.

The display is 31.5khz x 60hz at 640x350 and 31.5khz x 70hz at 640x480.

I can only get Xmono to work in 640x480 mode, and (thanks to alot of folks
on this newsgroup) I can "fool" the mono driver to work saying the chip is
a et3000.

I was hoping someone could refer me to a news-digestifier whom I could 
subscribe to to find out about WD developements.   I do not have 
UUmail and can only receive digests, so the email address of the 
maintainer of the proper X news digest or the email addr of the author
of the vga256 driver would be great...

I am using X from the SLS distribution which i think is Xfree86 1.0Ya.

PLEASE I BEG YOUR MERCY! ;) I have read FAQs, ran modegen

Thanks much
RLM
From: Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU (Conrad C. Nobili)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Compudyne 486DX notebook: trackball problems
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:25:56 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Organization: Harvard University Office for Information Technology

In article <C11H8K.B1G@world.std.com>, junikka@math.wisc.edu wrote:

> I remember long time ago someone wrote that they got the track ball
> in Compudyne 486DX notebook to work with X. Can that person tell
> me what I need to do? Send pathes or instruction....

It's a PS/2-type device.  You will need Johan Myreen's mconv.c PS/2 mouse
emulation program.  You should be able to find it on ftp sites.  All this
should be in the FAQs.  Send me e-mail if you need further pointers, but
*please* only after having made an honest effort to locate this stuff....

Conrad C. Nobili  N1LPM  Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU  Harvard University OIT
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: eggert@twinsun.com (Paul Eggert)
Subject: Linux sigismember bug
Organization: Twin Sun Inc, El Segundo, CA, USA
X-Newsreader: NN version 6.4.19
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:56:28 GMT

I'm not a Linux user, just an RCS maintainer.  But iwj@cam-orl.co.uk
(Ian Jackson) tells me that Linux has a bug that causes CVS's
configuration package to go into a loop.  Here's an example of the
problem.  Linux has only 32 signals, numbered 1 through 32.  The
program enclosed below invokes sigismember(&s,33).  Since 33 is not a
valid signal, Posix 1003.1-1990 sections 3.3.3.3 and 3.3.3.4 say that
sigismember(&s,33) must yield either -1 (setting errno to EINVAL), or
0.  Unfortunately, under Linux, sigismember(&s,33) yields 1, causing
the program to print `33 is a defined signal'.  That's incorrect, since
33 is not a member of any signal set.


#include <signal.h>
#include <stdio.h>

int
main()
{
	sigset_t s;
	if (sigfillset(&s) != 0) {
		perror("sigfillset");
		return 1;
	}
	switch (sigismember(&s, 33)) {
		case -1: perror("sigismember"); break;
		case 0: printf("33 is not a defined signal\n"); break;
		case 1: printf("33 is a defined signal\n"); break;
		default: printf("sigismember yields bad value\n"); return 1;
	}
	return 0;
}
From: mfuhr@cwis.unomaha.edu (Michael Fuhr)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Nice'd users at login?
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:18:17 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

Ian <I.P.Morris@southampton.ac.uk> writes:

>Ok, Dumb question time again i'm afraid.

There are no dumb questions, only questions the rest of us laugh at :-)

>I would like to have certain users logged in and automatically nice'd. (It's
>My processor not theirs so i want use of it!)

>I tried to put nice -2 /bin/bash as the shell in /etc/passwd but it didn't seem
>to like that idea.

I didn't try this, but try creating a script somewhere (/usr/local/bin
maybe) containing the above nice command, and making _that_ their shell in
/etc/passwd.  Let me know.
--
Michael Fuhr
mfuhr@cwis.unomaha.edu
From: andy@orchid.bdc.ubc.ca (Andrew Dwelly)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SLS missing linux/autoconfig.h ?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 01:31:41 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: orchid.bdc.ubc.ca


I started uploading SLS on the 25th of January - my first attempt
at a linux installation. Up to now it seems to have gone very
smoothly. Finally I got to the point where I wanted to make
a new kernel because our ethernet hardware sits on IRQ 3 rather than 5.

I modified Space.c appropriately, did a cd to the top of the source tree
and a make clean which worked, then a make dep which failed.
It seems that /usr/include/config.h has the line 

#include <linux/autoconfig.h>

.. and autoconfig seems to be missing from my distribution. Is this
a bug or am I missing something ?

In the meanwhile I've adjusted the hardware to fit linux's defaults so
its not a major problem. But I'm curious as to what's going on. All
comments gratefully received.

Apart from this everything seems to be working fine. I'm very
impressed.

Andy
--
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(604) 822-6527, andy@bcu.ubc.ca
From: sadkins@bigbird.cs.ohiou.edu (Scott W. Adkins)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: HELP: shell-init: Permission denied
Date: 22 Jan 93 02:13:00 GMT
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept., Athens

In article <1993Jan21.155119.11340@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> hamdy@rzdspc18.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Safuat Hamdy) writes:
>
>1. the login-dir of your user must be owned by that user and it 
>      must have read and execute permissions set for the owner.

I guess I will assume for now that this is true, but I will test this out
and see what happens... :-)

>2. the shell-initialization-files (for bash that is .bash_profile, 
>      .bashrc, etc., for tcsh, if you have, that is .login and .cshrc.
>      see BASH(1) (TCSH(1)) man pages for more info about this topic)
>      must be owned by your user and must have at least read and exec
>      permissions set for your user.

The only thing that I can say about the above is that the initialization
files must be readable in some way to the user.  It is *not* the case
that the user has to own the file... :-)  I have a guest account set up
on my system and in order to protect that account from whomever logs in,
I locked the password and changed the ownership of .login, .cshrc, .exrc,
and .mailrc files to root.root (root owned, root group).  This prevents
the guest user from changing things.  The account has been in use for 
awhile now and I have been on it a lot to test new stuff out.  There 
has been no problems with it.  I agree that the files should be readable,
but I once again disagree that they have to be executable.  (No, I haven't
read the man pages about *this* particular topic, but maybe I will sometime
soon.  What I have mentioned from above is from experience.)

>pwd, dir etc. will work fine. I recommend to use USERADD(8) because 
>initialization and perms setup will be done automatically.

Again, I found this not to be true.   The only thing the useradd program 
did was add the user to the passwd and shadow (password) files.  It did
nothing else.  I thought it would create a directory, but it didn't.  So,
I did it myself.  I thought it would set the ownership and group id 
correctly if I created the directory first.  Well, it didn't.  The end
result was that I had to right my own shell script that would do all of
the new account creation stuff for me.  I am most certainly dissapointed,
but that is alright... it at leasts puts the user in the password files.

Well, this may not help the original original poster, but I just wanted
to describe what I have found to be true with my system anyways.  (By the
way, I am using SLS 1.0, the .99p2 kernel release... pre-gzip days.)

Scott.
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From: mcallist@smdis01.sm.aflc.af.mil (Ron McAllister)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: tar texinfo file.
Date: 28 Jan 1993 17:25:58 -0500
Organization: The Internet
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mcallist@smdis01.sm.aflc.af.mil (Ron McAllister)
NNTP-Posting-Host: senator-bedfellow.mit.edu

Hi.  I do not have TeX installed, and for some reason I get what
looks like a texinfo file when I say 'man tar'.   Does a version
formatted for man exist ?
Tx, Ronan
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: dmuir@athena.mit.edu (Douglas Muir)
Subject: Re: Filesystems for people providing packets
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:47:42 GMT

With regard to people who provide packages using a filesystem which supports 
long file names, I would like to point out that this really only applies to
those who are porting packages which already use long file names.  One example
is gwm (not to malign the person who ported this package, I'm sure everyone
who uses the package is glad he did).  The main program in this package (gwm)
and its support files were all written to use long file names, and the support
files include other support files with long file names, etc.  On a minix 
filesystem, with truncated names, all works well - the filenames are shorter
and the filesystem, knowing this, will open the file xxx-yyy-zzz-ww even 
though the name of the file actually requested was xxx-yyy-zzz-www.  However,
the problem arrises when the porter with the minix filesystem tars up the 
package and uploads it for others to use.  If the user happens to have a
minix filesystem, everything works - the package (all of whose filenames are
now max 14 chars - regardless of what they were originally) untars fine - no
filenames get truncated since the truncated filenames are what are in the 
archive - and the user runs the program without trouble, because even though
the program is still looking for file xxx-yyy-zzz-www, his filesystem is
opening xxx-yyy-zzz-ww.  But when someone with an extended filesystem (and by
extended I mean any of the fileystems which have long filenames) untars the 
package - he gets the files with the truncated names on his disk.  When he
goes to run the program, the package tries to open file xxx-yyy-zzz-www, but
there is no such file.  The user has to rename the file xxx-yyy-zzz-ww.  The
only reason I'm explaining this (which really is pretty obvious - once you
stop to think about it) is that many people apparently don't think about it,
as evidenced by the rather harsh response the original poster received.  So
there are good reasons why package maintainers should attempt to preserve 
the "longness" of filenames in their packages - though I do recognize that the
people who maintain and distribute these packages do so on a volunteer basis
only, and as such, we really have no right to complain about anything they
do.  If the only price I have to pay for the convenience of having a
pre-compiled package is a little bit of time spent renaming files, that's 
fine with me.
							-Doug Muir
From: ludwig@wefunk.rent.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Installing X...
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:42:26 GMT
Organization: WEFUNK, The Mothership Connection - Franklin Park, NJ


	Maybe I'm asking for the moon but. . .

	Is there any one single document which would be so kind as to
describe the steps needed to get X386 up and running on a machine once
it's been installed?  I've got the SLS3 distribution of X and it all
looks so nice and pretty taking up half of my root partition.  I just
spent the last 6 hours making my wife hate me by trying to figure it
out by myself.  What I learned was.... I have no clue.  I've never had
this much problem installing other packages, but then I guess that's
because I never tried to install X on another machine.

	So, if some kind soul could mail me a doc on how to set this
bad boy up, I'd be forever grateful.

Danke.

Mitch


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Running Linux v.99
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From: beaman@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Kendall Beaman)
Subject: Re: Help: Cannot start X386mono Server
Organization: Andrews University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:12:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.021959.20449@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> rbui@maccs.mcmaster.ca (Robert Bui) writes:
>Has anyone started X386mono successfully?  If so, please tell
>me how to run or set it up!  
>
>I have tried "startx X386mono", "startx" and "xinit"... everything.
>But still cannot get it started.  
>

	Go to your /usr/bin/X11 directory and create a link to X386mono called X.
	'ln -s X386mono X'
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