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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.flame
Subject: Re: The Man With No Brain (Was: The world...)
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:01:33 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug14.185706.13501@crd.ge.com> keegan@pan.crd.ge.com (James G Keegan Jr) writes:
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>From: keegan@pan.crd.ge.com (James G Keegan Jr)
>Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.flame
>Subject: Re: The Man With No Brain (Was: The world...)
>Message-ID: <1992Aug14.185706.13501@crd.ge.com>
>Date: 14 Aug 92 18:57:06 GMT
>References: <1992Aug8.211228.6510@rotag.mi.org> <1992Aug12.015507.4422@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <1992Aug14.070559.4635@rotag.mi.org>
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>Disclaimer: i speak for myself only, unless noted otherwise

>kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
>-> kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran) writes:

>-> Then why do you spew homophobic shit that ranks with
>-> the Artimus Pages and Phil Stromers and Danny
>-> Karneses of the world?

What's the big deal with homophobia these days anyway?  The term seems to
imply that you are either gay or you fear gay.  I personally am a homo-
agnostic.
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From: chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney)
Subject: Charter member, KKK (Was Re: Who was "Dennis Hall"?
Organization: California State University: Sacramento
Distribution: world 
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:24:14 GMT

In article <1684554D.HUMPHRY@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU> HUMPHRY@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (Pat the Liar Harumphrey) blabs:
>In article <1992Aug16.003415.17098@csus.edu>
>chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney) writes:
> 
>>
>>In article <Bsy4qz.9vE@rice.edu> patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey) writes:
>>
>What a hoot.  If that was the case, the finger would be pointing straight
>at you -- you're far and away the best known liar in *this* newsgroup,
>even more so than Rasmussen himself.

Then you must be a God, Harumphrey. The great mythical Greek God of 
lying. I am merely the greatest among mortals; you rock the scales 
immortal, kiddo.

>Come on, Steve.  Let's see just how much of a boy you are.  March your
>fat black ass down here and tell me I'm a liar, to my face.  (I hope
>you don't mind doing it in the presence of a few witnesses, and I hope
>you like being humiliated.  On second thought, why should *I* care what
>you think?  What you get, you won't expect.)

Fat black ass? Since when have we started referring to people by
virtue of their race, Harumphrey? 

If I were to march my ass down there and tell you that you are a liar,
I would most certainly pick a dark and deserted parking lot to do it.
That way no one will know who was responsible for hanging your ass up
by a lasso, on that billboard, screaming for someone to get you down. 

And as for eyewitnesses, if you bring your friends, I'll bring mine.
Oh, and we'll bring a little something else along, too. Let's just
call it a... deterrent against violence by your "eyewitnesses."  And
seeing as that you, unlike anyone else, have referred to me as "your
fat BLACK ass," I bet the battle would be between me and my army of 
friends, and you and your friends from the Ku Klux Klan.


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		  Pro-Choice means pro-adult/child sex! 
	        With the little girl's consent, of course. 
		 Don't you pro-choicers just _hate_ this? 
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BBBBBBBB O OOOOOOOO O SSSSSSS O SSSSSSS O  Space Systems, Revision 2.0 

	       The B.O.S.S. does not speak for CSUS. 

Alias Borgie Boy, the BorgBarian, Inturdgent, Propeller Boy, Your Fat
Black Ass, and other scornful names heaped upon me during my lifetime...
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: cookc@aix.rpi.edu (rocker)
Subject: Re: Compassion (was: Re: I Tend To Be Pro-Choice Because: )
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 03:03:58 GMT

forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:

>From article <hzay_hf@rpi.edu>, by cookc@aix.rpi.edu (rocker):
>> tgreen@iastate.edu (Todd Greenfield) writes:
>> 
>>>There is never no other choice but to get an abortion.
>> 
>> True.  In some situations, the woman can choose to die instead.

>An admirable choice for the woman brave enough to risk it.  

I agree.  What's your point?

>Suzanne Forgach

                         -rocker
From: adams@spss.com (Steve Adams)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Out of the Mouths of Babes
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:11:37 GMT
Organization: SPSS Inc.

forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:

>Children at that age are simply learning that the world is made up of
>men and women, and not just big kids (adults) and little kids.   I
>strongly suspect your little niece was not embracing homosexualism as much 
>as she was simply verbalizing that she could tell that they were both men.

And didn't see anything wrong.  If society were the same, she'd never, ever
see anything wrong with it.  But when someone TELLS her that it's
icky-yuckey-gross, then she'll perhaps start to feel that way...to the
detriment of people who happen to be DIFFERENT than you are.

 -Steve
--
 The opinions expressed above are those of the author and not SPSS, Inc.
                        -------------------
     adams@spss.com                           Phone: (312) 329-3522
     Steve Adams                              Fax:   (312) 329-3558
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From: dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.abortion.inequity
Subject: Re: Observations
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:43:32 GMT
Reply-To: dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
Followup-To: talk.abortion
Organization: North Carolina State University

In article <1992Aug19.163139.22864@spdc.ti.com> 
serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Serafin) writes:

> I have just recently subscribed and begun reading these groups.  I have never
> seen to sides take such reactionary and extremist positions on any subject. 
> We have the pro-choicers, who feel abortion is right and should be made 
> available whenever and wherever a woman wants it.  Then, the pro-lifers at 
> the other extreme who would eliminate the possibility of abortion for all 
> circumstances.  Because of these extremist views I can safely say that I 
> am either pro-life or pro-choice.  I will not support such extremist 
> viewpoints. 

I don't believe I've heard any self-proclaimed pro-lifer on this
newsgroup say that they oppose all abortions.  Many pro-lifers have
stated that they support exceptions for the life of the mother, and
for rape and incest.  Pro-lifers don't agree on everything, but I
don't think anyone would object if you called yourself pro-life.

> I do not agree that a woman should not be allowed to an abortion in
> cases of rape, incest, or where the mothers life is in danger.  

That's a fairly popular position among pro-lifers.
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: lefty@apple.com (Lefty)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.flame
Subject: Re: without even being asked ....
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:22:11 GMT
Organization: Our Lady of Heavy Artillery

In article <1992Aug13.164818.26463@csus.edu>, chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu
(Stephen A Chaney) wrote:
> 
> In article <l8iuokINN2e1@news.bbn.com> levin@bbn.com writes:
> >chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney) writes:
> >|In case Pat Roby didn't notice, the point was, no, there was no way I
> >|could have had any form of a bad childhood at home. 
> >
> >But please don't ask him about his hatching.
> 
> I take it you didn't know I'm from the human species? 

Opinions vary.

Does this mean you've stopped being a Borg?

> You must be one of those rare birds Steve Franklin discovered while
> chatting with Lefty...  

And you must be one of those all-too-common turds we keep discovering
accessing USENET.

--
Lefty (lefty@apple.com)
C:.M:.C:., D:.O:.D:.
From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Minutes of ba.t.a committee meeting
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:39:29 GMT
Organization: LLNL

In article <1992Aug13.171459.12470@advtech.uswest.com> steven@jaynes ( Steve Novak) writes:
>> = (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran) writes:
>>> = (Eric Rescorla) writes:

>>>Rule 2) Novak + Cochran WILL be made to come out to California for
>>>a visit, under penalty of being sued by DJR.

>>Where's Cupertino in relation to LA?

	As I had commented, it is in the Sillycon Valley at the south
end of the Gay Bay, near San Jose. San Jose has its own airport, if
you wish to fly in, but you can go by Amtrak train if you want a more
comfortable (though longer!) ride. It's 3 trains a day, unreserved,
though you will have to go by bus part of the way.
From: smezias@option.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Out of the mouths of idiots (Was: Re: Out of the Mouths of Babes)
Date: 14 Aug 92 00:24:06 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

In article <1992Aug13.202616.19679@noao.edu> forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne
Forgach) writes much deletia in response to Brian Kane's story about
how his partner's niece saw two gentlemen walking together holding
hands and called them two daddies:

>I hate to break it to you Brian, but for a while my little girl called
>ALL men "daddy" and ALL women "mommy".    We got some pretty funny looks
>in the grocery store.   There was one time I love to recall, where she
>pointed at a thin woman with short hair and said, "Daddy!"   Then she
>did a double-take and said "Mommy!".   And when you think about it, the
>vast majority of women become somebody's mommy at some time in their lives,
>and the vast majority of men become somebody's daddy, so she really wasn't
>very far off in sizing up the world.
>
>Children at that age are simply learning that the world is made up of
>men and women, and not just big kids (adults) and little kids.   

This was exactly Brian's point.    

>I
>strongly suspect your little niece was not embracing homosexualism as much 
>as she was simply verbalizing that she could tell that they were both men.

Where do you see him say that she embraced homosexualism by her
comment?  Actually I take his point to be that the small children who
become rabid homophobes like yourself have to be taught to hate and
fear by homophobes like yourself.  Is that any clearer for you?

SJM

Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz)
Subject: Re: Another good reason to vote for Bush
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:07:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.205610.16241@ncsu.edu> dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
> In article <1992Aug12.201356.13906@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> 
> decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz) writes:
> 
> >dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
> 
> >>decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz) writes:
> 
> >>>dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
> 
> >>>> Bush does not want to ban "all" abortions.  He supports exceptions for 
> >>>> rape and incest, and for the life of the mother.   
> 
> >>> And for members of his own family.
> 
> >> This statement is not correct.
> 
> > Your flat statement does nothing to refute what I said.  
> 
> This statement is not correct. 
> 

Observe the Holtsinger Method.  Remove all but one sentence from
someone else's posting and deny what that person said.  Ignore
entirely any reasoned arguments in favor of deceiving the
readers of USENET.

That's okay, Dougie.  I don't think everyone else is as stupid
as you would like to think they are.

Oops, I can see it now.  Here's Doug's response to the above.

Me:
"I don't think everyone else is as stupid as you would like to
think they are."

Doug:
"This statement is not correct. "


Dean Kaflowitz

Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Myths and facts about Planned Parenthood
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 03:46:52 GMT
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In  <1992Aug21.004156.2888@s1.gov>  lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
>
>      I saw one interesting omission:
>
>      There was no mention about masturbation.
>
>      Has PP ever promoted that as a safe form of sex?

Well, that's really stretching it, Loren.  :-)

Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: bc744@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman)
Subject: BIBLE THUMPERS - ALLIES OF CHOICE!
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 03:27:05 GMT


   It used to bother me how much the bible thumpers try to oppose
choice by citing some bible.  It does not matter which bible they
quote - just as long as they quote one of them.  Because the more
these religious freaks use that old time religion, the more clear
it becomes that anti-abortion laws violate the principle of state
and church having as little to do with each other as is possible.
The founding fathers clearly intended to vaccinate our government
from as much religious contamination as possible.  So preach your
heads off.  But remember that the more you oppose abortion by the
might of Jesus, the more you shoot yourself in the foot. Also, if
you don't have religion on your side, you don't have anything!
-- 
"The tree of liberty must occasionally be nourished by the blood
of tyrants and of patriots."                    Thomas Jefferson
"Hello? Information?  Would you please give me the home phone of
Pat Buchanan?...Yes.  His address as well, thank you very much."
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
Subject: Re: Another good reason to vote for Bush
Keywords: From: decay@
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 15 Aug 92 13:02:55 GMT

In <BszqC6.Jp5.2@cs.cmu.edu> garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:

>In article <1992Aug14.151557.28696@ncsu.edu> dsh@odin.ece.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
>#In article <Bsz84u.36A.1@cs.cmu.edu> garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:
>#
>## No, Holtsinger, he said that all women deserve support of their right to
>## choose.  
>#
>#And that's sexist, because he assumes that all women would actually 
>#_want_ support of their right to an abortion, i.e. that all women are 
>#pro-choice.  Not every woman _wants_ support for abortion rights;
>#many women are pro-life.  By failing to recognize women as individuals
>#who have a variety of opinions on abortion, he assumes that all women
>#think alike on the issue of abortion, which is a sexist attitude. 

>You know, DOD, you really should wait to do your compulsive 
>editing until after you read the words.  I was speaking of
>a woman's right to choose.  Choice implies alternatives.  
>I know that you are motivated by a desire to control people,
>so it must be beyond you to understand the concept of choice.
>Here's a hint:  people with brains do not believe that
>"choose" is a synonym for abortion.
>  Idiots like you do,
>but it is ridiculous for you to expect the rest of the world
>to write in your bizarre code.

Who made up the code?  Not Doug, but the self-designated
[BTW, Ms. Garvin, did you read my COERCED ABORTION post last month?] 
"pro-choice" abortion-supporting  groups like NARAL, which
fight tooth and nail against Informed Consent bills that would
make abortionists reveal just how many medical dangers there are in
a supposedly "safe, legal" abortion?

Peter Ny.





Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.abortion.inequity
From: dsh@odin.ece.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
Subject: Re: Observations
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:08:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.210650.9651@spdc.ti.com> 
serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Serafin) writes:

>dsh@zeus.csc.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:

>>serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Serafin) writes:

>>> If you are not willing to accept responsibility for the possible failure
>>> of contraception, then yes, you should consider celibacy.  

>> Refraining from sexual intercourse does not mean refraining from sex, 
>> since there's always oral sex, anal sex, and mutual masturbation, among 
>> other forms of sex.  

> If we were talking about other forms of sex and not intercourse we 
> wouldn't have to worry about an abortion now would we?

You mentioned "celibacy".  To me, that means no sex of any kind.
You should be careful in your choice of words, because some
people might mistake you for being a prude.
From: keegan@sungod.crd.ge.com (James G Keegan Jr)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: KILLfile created to prevent flamewar
Date: 16 Aug 92 18:28:35 GMT
Reply-To: james g keegan jr <keegan@crd.ge.com>
Organization: T.S.A.K.C.
Disclaimer: i speak for myself only, unless noted otherwise

for some reason or other, ms. bartley reposted here
some paragraphs from a previous article.

eeb1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
-> Keegan apparently wants to resume our flamewar over
-> whether or not I'm a pro-choicer....  The most
-> recent attempt was in the thread "Re: A crack in the
-> iron curtain?"
-> 
-> Since I'm sure you're going to continue posting
-> articles like this, and I can't resist defending
-> myself if I see them, and I have *NO* intention of
-> being caught in a permanent flamewar with you, I'm
-> creating a KILLfile just for you -- so I won't see
-> the articles and won't feel any need to respond.
-> 
-> So, people, if Keegan attacks me and I don't
-> respond, it's not because he's right and I don't
-> have a defense; it's because I didn't see the attack
-> in the first place.

reproduced below is my response to ms. bartley's
earlier post.

From rdsunx.crd.ge.com!sungod!keegan Sun Aug 16 14:24:58 EDT 1992
Article: 18601 of talk.abortion
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: Can you show me 'gravity' please....
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 23:47:34 GMT

] E. Elizabeth Bartley Stumps her PetRant:
] 
] There's no generic right to privacy in the Constitution.  The
] Supreme Court looked at all the places where it provided *specific*
] rights of privacy (illegal search and seizure, no troops quartered
] in private houses in peacetime, etc.) and somehow decided that all
] of them together made up a generic right to privacy.  In other
] words, the Supreme Court made it all up.


I Agree with you,

and gravity was just one of those things 
that the scientific community made up as
they had no good explanation for why
things fall down....

ciao
drieux


-- 
I Do Not Believe in .sig files
as they are such a Known Waste Of BandWidth,
And Therefore Not a Morally UpRight Choice.
But I Can See the HideousHienousHandOfHeteroSexualityBehindItAll.
From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Who was "Dennis Hall"?
Summary: Who cares?
Date: 19 Aug 1992 03:47:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Rice University

In article <1992Aug19.025727.27959@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
>
>	Thanx for the info on "Dennis Hall".
>
>	I wonder why Steven Chaney is called the "Propeller Boy" and
>the "Dirigible Boy"? Is "Propeller Boy" an implication that he wears a
>propeller beanie?

Actually, when he first inflicted himself on this newsgroup (because us
evil, mean, nasty pro-choicers *forced* him to -- just ask him :) he
wouldn't even use his real name and went by "The Interceptor".  He
accompanied that with the whole works of fantasies about being some
invincible fighter pilot -- and true to form, he's been shooting himself
down ever since...

-- 
Patrick L. Humphrey  (patrick@is.rice.edu)  Rice Networking & Computing Systems
     +1 713 528-3626 at Rice. 776-1541 at home. 667-6554 at Palace Lanes. 

                    I've fallen -- and I can't reach my beer!
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From: dking@raul.nas.nasa.gov (Dan King)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.flame
Subject: Re: Inturdgent bangs out lies on his Commodore
Keywords: Dennis, your parents are going to wash your mouth out with soap
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:52:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: nas.1992Aug21.165200.9048
Reply-To: dking@raul.nas.nasa.gov (Dan King)
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation Facility NASA

I put alt.flame back into the distribution.  If I'm gonna apologize, I
want to make sure it gets to all the folks I owe the apology to.

ar>In article <78073@ut-emx.uucp> andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Some call me...Drew) writes:
dk>dking@raul.nas.nasa.gov (Dan King) writes:

dk>Has it magically become a
dk>Next?  You telling us the Commodore you got for your 12th birthday is 
dk>really a Next hasn't really changed it now has it?  

ar>Wait a sec...this looks like a Commodore flame!

Actually its a inturdgent flame, but I could understand the failure to
understand that.

ar>For the record, when I'm not at work, I post from my Commodore 128 at home.
ar>It has good VT-100 emulation and does everything I want it to otherwise.  I
ar>don't need and don't want another computer.  On behalf of the Commodore
ar>users of the net, I'd like to hear an apology for the insinuation that all
ar>Commodore users are as immature as...well, some Commodore users. :-)

Well thanks for all this critical information.  Actually I think I have 
friends that may use Commodores.  If I inadvertently dissed Commodore users
in my remarks, I apologize for this faux pas.  But my intent was not to 
dis Commodore users for their usage of said machines.  My intent was to 
flame little dweebs who pretend their Commodore is a Next.  Have you ever
been under these type of delusions?  Inturdgent has.  Not only does he
have multiple personalities, but he gives his Commodore multiple personalitys.

Dan King
Newsgroups: talk.abortion