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From: dans@rehab1.UUCP (Dan Schein)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Deutsche Welle TV
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:23:56 GMT
Reply-To: dans@rehab1.UUCP (Dan Schein)
Organization: Reading Rehab Hospital, Reading PA


  Along with my bi-monthly newsletter was an insert for DW TV. Here are
 the details for those who may wish to watch...

  Starts NOVEMBER 1st
  Broadcast from 15:00 to 05:00 hours UTC
  Bird -> INTELSAT - K 338.5 East
          Transponder -> H7
          Frequency -> 11.605 GHz
          Polarization -> horizontal (North Amer)
                          vertical (SA)
          TV sound -> 6.2 MHz
          Video -> NTSC M

  German programs -> 00:00 to 24:00 UTC @ 7.02 MHz
  Foreign languages  00:00 to 24:00 UTC @ 7.20 MHz

  -Dan
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  Dan Schein - Information Systems    __|__       Programming, Parenting,
  RD 1 Box 250                   ______(*)______  Rappelling, and soon...
  Reading, PA 19607                   o/ \o       Sky Diving!

  rehab1!dans@cbmvax.commodore.com -OR- {uunet,rutgers}!cbmvax!rehab1!dans
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 11:39:59 -0800
From:         Wayne Correia <Wayne_Correia@GATEWAY.QM.APPLE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Request Satellite Codes

        Reply to:   RE>>Request Satellite Codes
Hey Mr. Net.Policeman,

I think you are out of line toe shouting "off with his head" just because he
wanted _information_. Before you act as judge and jury, be sure to remember
that _information_ is not illegal (yet!). What you are really saying is that
_you_ have decided that information distribution is unwelcome on the net
becuase _you_ don't like the content. I think you are out of line to censor and
attempt to limit net access to this person and the site that provided it to him
because _you_ don't like the content of his message.

Just take it in stride, get on with your life, and worry about something worth
burning calories over.
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:06:29 GMT
From: zimm@CONDOR.NAVSSES.NAVY.MIL
Subject:      Re: Request Satellite Codes

>>THE NEW CODES WILL BE AVAILABLE SOON....

So, what you're saying is that it's ok to steal, cheat, rob, and be generally
dishonorable.  Scrambling is (essentially) a protection of copyright, and as a
writer and information services vendor I can only say that I disagree.  If
someone has a problem with GI, that's understandable. I dislike monopolies too.
 But protection of intellectual property is a perfectly valid exercise.  I am
apalled and quite irritated to see someone using the Internet to espouse an
illegal and immoral activity.

It might not be a crime in Mexico, but it is in the U.S., and this kind of
thing is...unwelcome...on the net.  Your account should be yanked, and the
activity that issued it to you should be brought under scrutiny by network
administration to answer why you were granted access in the first place.

If no one else does, I'll submit a complaint myself.

   Dave
From: vijay@ZYCAD.COM (Vijay Vaidyanathan)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Whats the bandwidth of SCPC signals? (and other related Qns)
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:21:30 GMT
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              11 Nov 1992 20:29:46 -0500 <9211120131.AA27144@Sun.COM>

Thanks ... I know that 70 Meg isnt all that common anymore, but
the idea was that it would still be cost effective to get a second
receiver that does have one ...

- VV
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From: ycao+@pitt.edu (Yousheng Cao)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Strange Ku problem...
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:48:48 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


   As we know, Ku band works at 11.7-12.2 GHz while C band works at 3.7-4.2
GHz. The wavelenth of Ku is about three times shorter than C band. A mesh
dish usually has as high as 85% effeciency to reflecting C band beam to LNB
but only 10% for Ku. In this way your 9' mesh dish is equvilent to a 3' dish
and even less. You have to use 0.7 dB noise figure LNB on a mesh dish insead
of 1.4 dB on a perf 3' dish.

YC
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Request Satellite Codes
From: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 20:33:14 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Robert Smits

zimm@condor.navsses.navy.mil writes:

> >>THE NEW CODES WILL BE AVAILABLE SOON....
> 
> So, what you're saying is that it's ok to steal, cheat, rob, and be
> generally dishonorable.  Scrambling is (essentially) a protection of
> copyright, and as a writer and information services vendor I can only
> say that I disagree.  If someone has a problem with GI, that's understandable
> I dislike monopolies too.  But protection of intellectual property is a 
> perfectly valid exercise.  I am apalled and quite irritated to see someone
> using the Internet to espouse an illegal and immoral activity.
> 
> It might not be a crime in Mexico, but it is in the U.S., and this
> kind of thing is...unwelcome...on the net.  Your account should be
> yanked, and the activity that issued it to you should be brought 
> under scrutiny by network administration to answer why you were
> granted access in the first place.
> 
> If no one else does, I'll submit a complaint myself.  
>    
>    Dave


Just what we need - more self appointed net cops! 

Disagree with him all you want. It's your right. To suggest, however, 
that he should have net access in another country removed because he
violates American law is just silly. And heavy-handed. And, none of your 
business.


emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca (Robert Smits Ladysmith BC)
From: rrw@SUNSET.CSE.NAU.EDU (Bob Wier)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: IR control
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:26:20 GMT
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For those of you interested in IR control of devices (including
sat receivers!), here is a list I made up awhile ago of sources...
----------
Here are some companies which are advertising some form of IR control
devices driven by either PCs or X10 modules (or both).

Dancraft Enterprises 310-643-8782
PC based IR control systems. Somewhat expensive, but interesting
"IR Jukebox"

Complete Home Automation 407 830 5535
x10/levitron line including levitron signal test set and troubleshooting
guide

Home Automation Systems 714 642 6610
X10, Levitron, Stanly, Heath, Plato, etc

Home Automation Labs 404 319 6000 - complete pc based systems
including 386Sx, 2 way x10 control (complete systems "under $2000")

JDS Technologies 619 487 8787  "TeleCommand" phone interface -
controls 100 x10 compatible devices

EnerSci 404 409 8844
CEBUS

Home Control Concepts 619 693 8887
heavily X10/PC control infra red interfaces

InteliHome 214 361 4044
CEbus

Home Automation, Inc 504 833 7256
Home control and security panel, x10 compatible - zoned, keypad
PC access

Su-Mar
410 437 4181 many X10 Levitron, other devices

Levitron (distributor info) 800 824 3005

Many of these have ads which can be found in
Electronic House magazine 219 256 2060

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- Bob Wier

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                   College of Engineering
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From: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: WELL
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:58:00 GMT
Reply-To: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Outland BBS  UUPCB  403-475-9588

What could happen if I decided to post around 26 wizards, how would I
get in trouble.  Its like how to make a bomb manual, or how to make a
gun, it is up to the person that reads the message (manual) what he
wants to do with them..

Its like the Dr. of Death, with his machine in the states, he will tell
people how to use his death machine, but he will not turn the knob.

ps.  what is happening with LVTN, they were on S3 - 22???

and well, For those that have chipped decoders, if GI does not upgrade
your board to a VCII PLUS (of course you will have to give them around
$200), if they will not upgrade then, for $250 around there, you will be
able to pick up a VCII to VCII PLUS daughter add-on board.  Its
guaranteed this will happen.

FBI, fighting crime, VCII crime, but no more drug busts.
                                                                                                 
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:08:26 EST
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Whats the bandwidth of SCPC signals? (and other related Qns)

>Thanks ... I know that 70 Meg isnt all that common anymore, but
>the idea was that it would still be cost effective to get a second
>receiver that does have one ...

These are available cheap.  With VIJAY's RECEIVER if it indeed solves the
bandwidth problem (you need about FOUR different bandwidths to overcome it
completely), all you need is a UNIDEN 5000 or other cheapo used receiver, I
have seen these available for around $50.  As a bonus when you are not using
the receiver for SCPC, it is really a lot of fun to have a SECOND SAT
RECEIVER hooked to your dish for trolling for feeds.

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From: hew@Turing.ORG (Harold E. Wheaton (N6WUX))
Subject: Re: G5 reception in midwest with a 3 ft dish.
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:45:34 GMT

In article <CNTS12.57.0@email.mot.com> CNTS12@email.mot.com (Mike Stevens) 
  writes:
>Does anybody have any experience with using a 3 foot dish with a hot LNA-20 
>to 30 degrees for G5 reception on C band.

>Curious about video reception as well.  A friend of mine has tried a 3 foot 
>dish with the Aniks and finds excellent reception.

A person (from your specific area) wrote about his experiment with small
dishes on C band.  I believe he actually had limited success and he did not
even try G5.

There is a company that provides a 5 foot dish and IRD (with G5 subscriptions)
for $25 a month or so.  (I'm not sure whether you'd end up owning the equip-
ment or not.)  That shows that a 5 footer would work with no problem (with
whatever LNB was supplied) so it may be interesting to at least experiment
with a 3 foot dish, but remember that noise may confuse the descrambler.
(This would be a project I'd enjoy but I'd rather not spend more $ now.)

Regarding Aniks: make sure your friend was watching C band and not Ku.
A 3 foot dish at Ku-band has much more gain than the same dish at C-band.
						-Harold
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Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:31:05 -0500
From:         Ron Gomes <rrg@PROLOGIC.COM>
Subject:      Greensheet

I just tried to call Greensheet.  Their phone number (908-707-1800) has
been disconnected.

                        Ron Gomes
                        rrg@prologic.com
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: mann@csd.uwo.ca (Robert Mann)
Subject: Wizard Codes and G.I.'s Ethics
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Western Ontario, London
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:12:23 GMT

I think the people who are so angry at pirates should redirect their anger.
The main guilty party is General Instruments themselves.  You think the pirate
industry hasn't had a heaping handful of help from G.I. themselves?

Also, one might want to comment on the ethics of a company that has sold
(hundreds of?) thousands of descrambler boards to markets (Canada/Mexico) where
they knew there was no legal use for them since the programming was not
offered in Canada/Mexico/etc.

I don't blame the cable companies for not paying to upgrade to VCII+.  G.I.
should pay for it since it is G.I.'s fault the system is broken.  On the
other hand, you've gotta give G.I. credit.  With chipped boards, they've
made themselves a lot of money through increased sales.  
Now with the upgrade, they get to sell to the pirates again.  Very clever
guys.  G.I. is laughing all the way to the bank.  They'll probably laugh
even harder when they stiff everyone for an upgrade to digicipher.

Rob

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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: Re: Agnet gone, C3,C4 info
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 04:47:05 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <199211052318.AA00732@sunset.cse.nau.edu> Bob Wier <rrw@SUNSET.CSE.NAU.EDU> writes:
> Did anyone here subscribe to Agnet?  I always wondered about it.
> If I remember correctly, it was *incredibly* expensive - something
> like $350/yr?

I didn't subscribe, but I did get it for free nightly.  When HSE
would start up for the day, AgNet would move over to C1/18 and go ITC
for the evening hours.  

BTW, I think the yearly subscription was more like $150/yr.

Robert

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From: hew@Turing.ORG (Harold E. Wheaton (N6WUX))
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: 4534, NTSC/HDTV thoughts....
Date: 10 Nov 92 06:04:42 GMT
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.

In article <1992Nov9.104009.1196@galaxy.gov.bc.ca> rkobenter@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
   writes:

>Gary has a point, but IMHO its a Catch-22 scenario, the Commercial TV
>stations will not convert unless sufficient home units have HDTV 
>receive capability and the consumer won't fork out 2-5k $ unless they
>can view something. I mean, just look at the cost of a good 29-33"
>(72+ cm) TV these days, in Canada for around $C 800-1000, in Germany
>for DM 1600.- (ie: the same price currency fluctuations considered,
>and the added features of German TV's)...

I've also thought about this problem and have wondered how HDTV will
arrive.  Fortunately (in my eyes), the FCC will be aggressive on this.
The commission will assign one 6 Mhz channel to broadcasters and the 
broadcaster is return must start HDTV programming within 5 years (up
to 1998).  Five years later, the station must turn in the original
channel so thus broadcast NTSC will be dead by 2008.  Broadcasters
obviously want something friendlier but I hope the plan sticks for the
most part.  

For satellite TV, HDTV will most definitely arrive faster (or so I 
assume), especially with the Hughes/RCA DirectTv DBS service.  I myself
do hope HDTV broadcasting (via Ku-band DBS) arrives quickly, but if it's
all going to be subscription based, then I'll probably get my UHF antenna
going.

>I think the first step will have to be a transition, ie: like a D2-MAC
>converter that will fit into most 4:3 TV's.
>In the interm we will have to live with NTSC till the next century

This may be fine for some people but I'd rather wait and get the full set.
It will be interesting to see what price level will intice people to get
the net sets.  If a living-room sized HDTV set can be had for under $2k,
then I will jump in, but that may require some waiting as well. :(
No matter what, I am >NOT< planning on waiting until the next century to
get my HDTV.

>Another item, how many rotary phones are there? But then look at
>the cost of a push button phone ...

Interesting case: we still have 2 rotaries in use, but the living room
phone is a touch-tone.  TVs may follow the same route.
					-Harold
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:37:04 -0500
From:         Elmer Beachley <etb@CS.PITT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Information for Janiel Stereo Processor

Mike:

WRT the Janiel:

The schematics are available from VJAY who posts to this group regularly.

Unless you can figure out the interface to their satellite receiver, it
would seem a significant project to control from a PC.

I've never had mine drift off frequency.  Does changing the frequency bring
the audio back?

Elmer Beachley etb@cs.pitt.edu
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:01:36 EST
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: S-VHS connections

>I have a Super VHS VCR and will soon need to select an IRD.  From the
>November issue of ORBIT, I see that only a few IRDs have Super Video
>outputs.  Is it necessary to use S-Video connectors to take advantage
>of the improved resolution of my VCR?


No.  This is a VERY COMMON MISCONCEPTION>

>Obviously, I don't know very much about the S-Video format.  I'm not
>sure how much of the improvement is implemented by a better cabling
>system.

The S-VIDEO cable separates Y (brightness) from C (Color information)
signals.  This is fine if the signals are kept separate through out the
involved process, such as in the case of a SVHS recorder receiving its signal
from, say a camera ALSO connected to the machine by S cable.  By keeping Luma
and Chroma signals separate, signal to noise ratio is helped.

HOWEVER:


>The Toshiba TRX-2200 IRD is one that has Super Video outputs.  In the
>sales glossy, it says:

> "Our Super Video circuits make the TRX-2200 compatible with the
>  latest developments in TV monitors, as well as Super VHS VCRs.  By
>  routing only S-Video signals among components, vertical edge dot
>  crawl and hanging dots (often seen on strongly colored horizontal
>  edges) are minimized, while moires and bleeds associated with
>  chroma/luminance interference are dramatically reduced."


This is a bit of hype.  Satellite signal transmission is completely
different, and while it IS composit, the resolution is much higher than
obtained through normal composite signals.  One thing to know ONCE THE SIGNAL
HAS BEEN COMBINED, as in the transmission by satellite, it makes no
difference whether the separation occurs at the satellite receiver, OR in
your monitor.

S-VIDEO connectors primarily exist for keeping the Y and C signals separate
for the recording of same on SVHS or similar recorders, and have no real
effect on already existing high quality composite signals, such as come from
a state of the art satellite system.

After all, the TV stations use composite signals from THEIR satellite systems
and don't use S cable.  There ARE professional TAPE formats that also keep Y
and C separate, but this is the only place where it is bothered with.  Not in
transmission.

Unless we are talking about MAC signals, which is a whole other animal.

>I'd like to get a less biased view of the situation.  How much will
>quality be effected if I attach an IRD with only the traditional video
>and audio outputs?

It will blow your socks off.  Totally blow them off.  you will be barefoot
for life.  With the COMPOSITE (normal) Signal.

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From: caadams@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Kenny Adams)
Subject: Re: CBC National & Journal Gone?
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:35:58 GMT

Hi,
	the journal is gone for good.  the national has been moved to
newsworld (anik e2 tr 16 oak-orion encrypted).  both programs were replaced
by the new prime time news.  CBC rearranged the schedule and programs for
several reasons.  surveys said people wanted their news earlier in the
evening.  it was about 10 years ago that we moved the national from 2300 to
2200.  it was well received by the viewers.  along with this change was the
termination of newsmagazine at 1900 and the late night regional news at
2300.  the 30 minutes from the late news has been given to the supper hour
news programs to extend the show to 90 minutes (1730 to 1900 local time).

one other reason for the change was divide the evening in to 3 seperate
parts 1900 to 2100 is early prime , sort of pg rated programs.  this time
slot will have most of the us shows that we buy.  then there is 60 minutes
of news(2100 to 2200).  the last part is late night, there are several new
shows to be broadcast here including canadian cinema.  this show will
showcase canadian made movies. the only slot for movies in the old schedule
was 2230 sunday evening, this prevented showing movies with adult themes as
children watched at this time.  the first movie shown on the canadian cinema
was 'jesus of montreal'.

if you have any other questions i can see if i can get answers for you.
i work as an electronic maintenance technician for CBC.  the preceeding
ramblings are my own etc..........


kenny

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From: rrw@SUNSET.CSE.NAU.EDU (Bob Wier)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Information for Janiel Stereo Processor
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:11:22 GMT
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              Janiel Stereo Processor" (Nov 12,  9:06am)


 RE: Vijay's Janiel Schematics -

  He can speak for himself, but let me say that I was VERY impressed when
 I got my set. Shrink wrapped and everything. Fine job!

- Bob Wier

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                   College of Engineering
      Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff Arizona
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From: bijans@shade.Princeton.EDU (Bijan Mohammad Salehizadeh)
Subject: U2 Zoo TV
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:09:30 GMT

I'm a big U2 fan and I'm interested in satellite technology etc.  I'm
wondering if anyone out there in dish land has been able to pick up U2's
ZooTV concerts which the band claims is sent out all over the world from
their travelling dish.  Any info would be appreciated.

-bijan

Baba Bijan
"Howard forever, Baldy Never"
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