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From: cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy)
Subject: Re: Goober, a Southernism??
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 14:15:44 GMT
Organization: A Suffusion of Yellow

In article <Bz9BMs.Lvr@icon.rose.hp.com>, bobdev@hprpcd.rose.hp.com (Bob Devereaux) writes:
|> In Robert R. McCammon's _Boy's Life_, there a graffito referenced, something
|> like "Debbie Loves Goober."  The narrator says character X, an adult, most
|> likely thought Goober was a person.  I'm McCammon's age or a bit older, 
|> but this is a slang expression which I suspect may be Southern.  Can anyone
|> enlighten me as to its meaning?

I can tell you what *I* knew it to mean when I was growing up in Georgia.
First of all, it means "peanut".  Although peanuts are Georgia's leading
cash crop, and although states like South Carolina grow *many* more peaches
than Georgia does, Georgia maintains its hold on the moniker "The Peach
State" largely because they don't want to be known as "The Goober State",
I think :-).

Second, as a very young child, the word "goober" was used to refer to a 
penis.  It was a "kiddie" word that all of the other little kiddies
sniggered at.

So the phrase "Debbie Loves Goober" could really take on a *very* wide
range of meanings :-).

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From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,misc.books.technical,alt.internet.services,comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: The Online BookStore Announcement: The Internet Companion
Date: 18 Dec 92 07:53:56 GMT
	<BETSYS.92Dec18024936@ra.cs.umb.edu>
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

ComplEmentary not complImentary. Someday I'll learn to remember which
editor uses CTRL-C as a quit and which uses CTRL-C as a "mail me right
now." Or maybe someday my computer will remember for me :-)
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From: mworley@mathcs.emory.edu (Meg Worley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: All I want for xmas
Date: 16 Dec 1992 15:59:28 -0500
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS
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Sburgfort holds forth, to which all I can say is,
Come on Sburgie, don't hold back on us.  Give us
the *full* list!

I hope your family is large and deep-pocketed;
I would hope that you get all your wishes.

Hoppy hols to all.

meg

-- 

 Meg Worley 				Internet:  mworley@mathcs.emory.edu		
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From: tmaddox@netcom.com (Tom Maddox)
Subject: Fucks [was Re: Git (was re: Et in Arcadia ego)]
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:47:45 GMT

	Gardner Dozois, editor of _Asimov's SF Mag_, writer, and dispenser
of all known varieties of crudity, obscenity, etc., both simple and complex,
introduced me to an easily done and so far as I know unnamed technique of
song improvisation, along the lines of:

	Row, row, row your fucking boat,
	Gently down the fucking stream [. . .]

Which may bend scansion but has a certain eerie and compelling quality when
sung by twenty or so people.  Can be done with virtually any lyrics, I should
add.

	(Gardner also does "Stopping by Woods" to the tune of "Hernando's
Hideaway" and other such unlikely matchings of poem and melody, so he's 
not just a pretty fucking face--so to speak.)


-- 
				Tom Maddox
		    	    tmaddox@netcom.com
		"The Reptoids eat humans like we eat chickens."
				Alex Alexander
Xref: sparky rec.arts.books:22864 rec.food.historic:901
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:03:29 CST
From: Barry Grau <U42054@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,rec.food.historic
Subject: Re: Food Slang (Once:Re: Goober, a Southernism??
 <15DEC199217161387@utahep.uta.edu> <8727.15578@stratus.SWDC.Stratus.COM>
 <1992Dec18.171649.379@panix.com>

really, "baitzim", literally eggs, is yiddish slang for balls.

barry
From: shaw@au-bon-pain.lcs.mit.edu (Andy Shaw)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Arghh! Barth Shmarth!
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:30:02 GMT
Organization: MIT Lab for Computer Science, Cambridge, Mass.

In article <Bz43uw.6DK@dunaad.co.uk> ah@dunaad.co.uk (Alan Hunter) writes:
   In article <1g7btaINNo42@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel) writes:
   >
   >Nope, Lindy...it's just one that has Sherry-baby in it. Please
   >recall (if I only knew the name) the collection of novellas
   >that JBrth put out after Giles GoatBoy. She and her little sister
   >(Dunadzade??) are in that one...

   Lost in the Funhouse, as i recall.

No, I think it's _Chimera_.

-Andy
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From: tthiel@cs.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: The Online BookStore Announcement: The Internet Companion
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:08:07 GMT

billy@sol.acs.unt.edu (Billy Barron - VAX/UNIX Systems Manager) writes:
>>I've seen both books and I think they are complimentary. Krol's book
>>is a more thorough examination of resources, and the better book for
>>the moderately experienced computer user. LaQuey's book is lighter and
>>more readable, and has better explanations for the novice. I think
>>Krol's book is a little too "computer-bookish" for the total
>>net-newcomer. 
>I have known about Tracy's book project from the beginning.  This was the
>intent of the book packager (Laura - I can't remember her last name now)
>and Tracy.  In fact, on an interesting note, for a while O'Reilley considered
>publishing both books.  Tracy's book is more likely to get someone excited
>about the Internet and then when they get on and learn a few basic things,
>they will want Krol's or Kehoe's book.

I went back and took another look at the Internet Companion and can agree
with what everyone is saying about it being more of a beginner's book
than Ed Krol's book.  That still doesn't explaine the part about it being
a best seller when it just came out ;).
-Terry
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,misc.books.technical,alt.internet.services,comp.org.eff.talk
From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: The Online BookStore Announcement: The Internet Companion
Organization: The World
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:25:38 GMT



				   
			     Tracy LaQuey
				   
			    Editorial Inc.
				   
			 Software Tool & Die
				   
				 and
				   
		      The Online BookStore (OBS)
				   
		      Are Pleased To Announce...
				   

The first simultaneous electronic and print publication of a major new
book: The Internet Companion: A Beginner's Guide to Global Networking
by Tracy LaQuey with Jeanne C. Ryer (Addison-Wesley, $10.95).

Online copies of Vice-President-elect Al Gore's Foreword and the first
two chapters of this best-selling book are available via anonymous FTP
from:

			    world.std.com

in the directory:

		     /OBS/The.Internet.Companion/

Further chapters will be released in the future. See the README and
COPYRIGHT files in that directory for more details. Direct comments
and questions about the book to:

		   internet-companion@world.std.com

This pioneering effort is a step in bringing together the on-line
electronic and print media, enabling authors to explore new avenues of
publishing their works. Comments, inquiries, etc. welcome: Send to
obs@world.std.com.

-- 
        -Barry Shein

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From: rhogan@aludra.usc.edu (Ron Hogan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: It fills us. We arrange it. It decays.
Date: 14 Dec 1992 14:50:29 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak) writes:

> What you seem to be saying is that it doesn't matter if you _are_ a 
>victim of something or not - as long as you _think_ you're a victim,
>then by definition you must be a victim. 
> 
> With attitudes like this being taught to our future psychotherapists,
>I can easily see the whole society going insane. 

What my impression was of Fiona's idea was that it did not matter
whether there was a real material event that defined one as a victim.
If somebody thinks they are a victim, they are going to evidence the
behavior of a victim.

Not to be as simplistic as if it walks like a duck etc. but...

Ron
and didn't the whole society go insane sometime back in 1963?
or was it 1914?
or...
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From: sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller)
Subject: Re: Git (was re: Et in Arcadia ego)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:35:26 GMT

In article <ryh2g_b@rpi.edu> kasprj@rpi.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec12.184931.18852@nevada.edu>, wwhitman@nevada.edu (MICHAEL WISE) writes:
>
>|> stop telling that there own fucking dialect is so fucking superior to 
>                     ^^^^^
> You might try taking some fucking grammar lessons while you're at it.
>That usage is wrong on either side of the fucking pond. 
> 
> (Don't fucking flame me, it's a fucking joke!)

You've just gone and fucking done just the fucking kind of followup
about which he was making a fucking complaint.


Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: vusl@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (VU Science Library)
Subject: Irishly in L. Sprague DeCamp
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:55:51 GMT

I am reading L. Sprague DeCamp's Lest Darkness Fall and I have a 
question.  In talking about Ebenezer the Jew,  DeCamp describes him
as distressingly pious and says, "he did not eat at all, to put it
Irishly, for fear of transgressing one of the innumerable rules of
his sect."  What does "Irishly" mean here?

			Carlin



--
	Carlin Sappenfield - vusl@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu 
			     sappenc@vuctrvax.bitnet	
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From: mtaranto@shearson.com (Mark Taranto)
Subject: Re: New Yorkers: d'ja go hear "Agrippa"?
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:47:28 GMT



gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor) writes:
 
> So, did any of the usual rec.arts.books suspects in New York actually
> decide to go to the Penn Gillette "reading" of Bill Gibson's most
> recent self-destructing opus "Agrippa" at the Kitchen or {somewhere
> else I don't recall} and thus perhaps had a chance to actually hear the
> work itself?
 
Nope.
 
But when I met Mike Godwin a couple of months ago, he somehow got
be to subscribe to a local BBS called Echo (somewhat similar to The Well).
On the night of the reading, Echo broadcasted AGRIPPA.  It was done
in an interesting fashion, in keeping with the self destructing
theme.  As Echoids logged off, we were treated to several screens of the
AGRIPPA text.  
 
It was enjoyable -- but it is gone, and I shall never see it again.
 
Mark
 
 
 
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From: kamorgan@athena.mit.edu (Keith Morgan)
Subject: Re: All I want for xmas
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 22:36:00 GMT

William R. Smith wishes for (among others):

>Replay				Ken Grimwood (Peter?)	sf, replays his life


Is this a new book? It seems reminiscent of a sf story I read about 6
years ago. The premise was the protagonist's life looping back to the
same beginning and his starting over again at the same spot. It was a
very eerie tale.

Keith

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From: hhenderson@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: excellent reading!
Organization: Clark University
Date: 11 DEC 92 17:56:14 GMT


joan@med.unc.edu (Joan Shields) writes:

>In article <11DEC92.12080999@vax.clarku.edu> hhenderson@vax.clarku.edu writes:

>>tmaddox@netcom.com (Tom Maddox) writes: 
>>>	Or not--as you please.  Perhaps I'll simply have to get used to 
>>>telling you on a regular basis to fuck off and die.  I could live with that. 

>>Why Tom, you're so cute when you're mad!
>>Sorry to get you in such an agitated state, but really, if you're not prepared
>>to have people react to your statements, kindly keep them to yourself.  

>Heather, dear, perhaps you ought to take your own advise.
> 
>Take one of your libriums, call your trainer, and lie down awhile, ok?  I
>know you've had a hard day.
>
>  
>Yours in wet kisses and sincere wishes,
> 
>Joan

Joan, babe, I knew you didn't have a sense of humor, since you made a
point some time ago of claiming that you did; but I thought you were,
at least, *sincere*.  What a disillusionment! 

I would invite you to plant one of your wet kisses sincerely on
my ass, but for the worry that you would take the invitation
as literal rather than figurative.

Heather
HHENDERSON@vax.clarku.edu

PS.  The word you wanted was "advice".
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: hhenderson@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: A modest proposal (was: Git)
Organization: Clark University
Date: 15 DEC 92 21:53:18 GMT

gwr@hedonist-1.lanl.gov (Graham W. Redgrave) writes:

>Yes, Anne, but we've been through this before.  To get your knickers in
>an uproar because I'm irritated with your admittedly out of context flame
>is a little, well, sensitive, don't you think?

"Knickers in an uproar": what a splendid phrase!!  Even though we Yanks
would use the word "panties"...

Here's an idea: for all you sensitive folks out there, I suggest forming
the Roaring Panties Club -- kind of a support group for the chronically
offended and the humor-disadvantaged.  For men who don't want to be involved
with female lingerie except as spectators, there could be a more masculine
equivalent -- the Roaring Boxers (doesn't *that* sound butch?) or the Roaring
Bikini Briefs, depending on the fellow's own personal style.

Just a thought.

Heather
HHENDERSON@vax.clarku.edu
From: francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Facts on FAQs
Date: 18 Dec 1992 14:48:29 GMT
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
NNTP-Posting-Host: oas.stanford.edu

Evelyn C. Leeper writes:

	I should also note that the rec.arts.books FAQ does mention
	rec.arts.sf.reviews as a place to find book reviews.

I am a regular user of the net and have been for some time, and while I
know what a FAQ is (some might not) I haven't a clue how to get into one.
It would be helpful if FAQ reminders described what a FAQ was and informed
on their use.

							Fido
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: mtaranto@shearson.com (Mark Taranto)
Subject: An apology
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:00:56 GMT


I was looking over the recent "Snotty" thread.
 
I have come to the realization that my claim that Heather's actions
were hypocritical were too strong.
 
I think that she was wrong about Tom's intentions.
 
I think her actions were somewhat contradictory.
 
But calling her a hypocrite implies that she had intentions which I don't
know that she had, and which she probably did not have.
 
So Heather, please except my apology for taking my argument too far.
 
 
 
Heather is right that those of us who have been around here are the ones
who backed up Tom.  I don't think this is because we are part of an Inner
Clique -- but rather because we have seen Tom before, have read his
articles.  Some of the others know Tom personally.  And knowing more
of him, we have a better sense of what he was doing.  I trust that the
longer Heather is here, the more likely we are to understand what she
means when she says something.
 
I understand her concern for newcomers.  They are more likely to mistake
a statement like one that Tom made for being snotty, and are more likely
to be misunderstood themselves.  But new people come in all the time, and
I think most are accepted readily.
 
 
Mark
From: idathon@uts.uni-c.dk (Hans O. Nymand)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Books about Coca-Cola
Date: 12 Dec 92 01:13:08 GMT
Organization: UNI-C, Danish Computing Centre for Research and Education

Here's an odd question: Does anybody know of any books about The Coca-Cola 
Company or their products? I would like to find anything related to Coca-Cola
such as historical accounts of the Company and regular coffee-table books.

Incidentially, I took a peek in 'Books in Print' but I couldn't seem to find
anything relevant under 'Coca ...' or 'Coke ...'.

Any help appreciated...


Henrik Sahlholt
(d01hs@vm2.uni-c.dk)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
Subject: Re: Quotes, quotes, quotes
Reply-To: jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:47:08

In article <1479@eouk12.eoe.co.uk> jrickard@eoe.co.uk (John Rickard) writes:

   Peter Chubb (peterc@suite.sw.oz.au) asks what work is quoted or
   alluded to by Dorothy L. Sayers when she writes in Gaudy Night:
   : 	`The duke drained a dipper of brandy and water and became
   : 	 again the perfect English gentleman'

     He strode hastily to the sideboard, drained a dipper and a half of
     brandy, and became again the perfect English gentleman.

	-- Gertrude the Governess: or, Simple Seventeen,
	   by Stephen Leacock

   This actually refers to an earl, not a duke.  The story is in Stephen
   Leacock's book Nonsense Novels ("London: John Lane, The Bodley Head.
   New York: John Lane Company. MCMXVII") and often appears in selections
   of his work.

   -- John Rickard

What's a dipper?  Surely not what an American would call a dipper.
The latter, which I haven't seen since I was a child, is made of
metal (say aluminum) has a long handle and sits next to a barrel
of rain water.  It would not fit into the milieu of a gentleman.
--
John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
*
He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.

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From: gwr@hedonist-1.lanl.gov (Graham W. Redgrave)
Subject: Re: Joy of Sex
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:19:42 GMT

Lauren L. Crawford toodles away:
|> In article <1992Dec10.163010.10876@newshost.lanl.gov> gwr@hedonist-1.lanl.gov (Graham W. Redgrave) writes:
|> 
|> >Just for the record, it's Kama Sutra, by Vatasyayana, and, uh, it's
|> >_about_, well, here:
|> >
|> ><*SPINSTER ALERT!!!  SPINSTERS, AVERT THINE EYES*>
|> 
|> *Goodness*, that was really something!  
|> 
|> Take heart, though, fellow spinsters.  As a special service, I have taken
|> it upon myself to revise this gentleman's posting for those of a more
                                 ^^^^^^^^^
Lauren, this is far more gracious an appellation than I expected from a 
response to such a post, and I thank you for kindliness; I should thank
you, too, for spinsterizing the post so that those of a more lacey 
constitution would be able to consume, if not consumate their relation-
ship with, the Kama Sutra.

Yours in editorial collegiality,


-- 
Graham Redgrave    |    --  I don't speak for the government, 
gwr@life.lanl.gov  |        but I wish the government would speak for me ...  --
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,rec.food.historic
From: young@serum.kodak.com (Rich Young)
Subject: Re: Goober, a Southernism??
Originator: young@sasquatch
Reply-To: young@serum.kodak.com
Organization: Clinical Diagnostics Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 17:03:17 GMT

In article <BzAz83.7yF@NeoSoft.com> claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird) writes:

[...]

>Do folks truly not know this?  "Goober" is a regionalism
>for "peanut".  It entered (southeast US) English around
>1830, from the Kimbundu word for the legume.

	It's also used as an alternative for "idiot."  For example, in a 
	recent editorial in "CAR AND DRIVER," the writer made reference to
	"...those goobers who think that the left-hand lane is for their
	own privateuse, not for passing."  I expect that this usage comes
	from a combination of influences: the fact that a peanut has been
	used in pejorative descriptions of intelligence [e. g., "peanut-
	brain"], and the fact that it's a Southern product and Southerners
	have been [unfairly] labelled as ignorant.

	Of course, I could be wrong, 'cause I'm not really a lexicographer,
	I just play one on Usenet.  :-)


-Rich Young (These are not Kodak's opinions.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: davidf@golem.waterloo.on.ca (David J. Fiander)
Subject: Re: Call For Discussion: rec.arts.books.reviewed
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:38:39 GMT

According to ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper):
>
>I used to post more reviews here.  Now that they go to
>rec.arts.sf.reviews, a moderated group, it's difficult to cross-post
>them here, and I never post them separately, so my contribution has
>dropped.  On the other hand, people interested in reviews of science
>fiction books can easily subscribe to rec.arts.sf.reviews, which has
>only a few articles a week (as opposed to the inundation that used to
>be in rec.arts.sf-lovers).

A request at the beginning of the message to the moderator that
it be cross-posted should be sufficient.  Regardless, as one of
the people that enjoyed your reviews (thank you very much for
reviewing _Tales of the Wandering Jew_) and wondering where
they went, I am glad to find out.  Time to talk to my news feed
again.

- David (out on a leaf)
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