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From: zonker+@CMU.EDU (Jeremy G. Mereness)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: ReReleases of MAD comics?
Date: 3 Jan 93 05:30:50 GMT
Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


EC Comics is putting out re-releases of their old (circa 1940) comics like
Mad (the comic, not the magazine) in book form. 

At least, they used to be. I can't find any anymore. Does anyone know
anything about these books and how they might be ordered? 

Thanks in Advance!



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From: gls@windmill.ATT.COM (der kleine Sicherman bin-ich)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Annotation 39
Organization: Save the Dodoes Foundation
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 04:02:45 GMT
Keywords: sandman annotation

In <1992Dec14.003647.1@fnalo.fnal.gov>, morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov writes:
> 
> 	Since I'll be gone over the holidays, it's best if folks send me
> corrections and additions directly via e-mail, so I won't miss posted 
> comments.

	"Let sleeping dogs lie."	--proverb

> Page 5 panel 3-6:  Some good quotes here, folks.  The "Paree" one is
> familiar to me, but I've never known the name or origin.  The "railroad"
> quote is, I think, a Depression-era song; the missing word at the end of
> the quote is "dime".

"I'll Be Glad When You're Dead, You Rascal You" was also a popular song;
I don't have a reference.  "Bill Bailey, Won't You Please Come Home" (1902)
was by the blackface songwriter Hughie Cannon, who also wrote "Just Because
She Made Dem Goo Goo Eyes" (remember that one?  Probably not if you're under
70).  "How 'Ya Gonna Keep 'Em Down On the Farm (After They've Seen Paree)?"
(1919) words by Joe Young and Sam M. Lewis, music by Walter Donaldson.

"Brother Can You Spare a Dime?", words by Jay Gorney, music by E. Y.
("Yip") Harburg, is from the great depression.  It debuted in a revue
in 1932 and became an instant hit--to the consternation of Herbert
Hoover and the establishment, who vainly scrambled to suppress it.

The "city" quote sounds like something out of Gargantua, but I'm only
brainstorming.

> Page 7 panel 1:  No refs on the Desert of Lop.

"The city I have mentioned [5 days ENE of Charchan], which stands at the
point where the traveller enters the Great Desert, is called Lop, and the
desert is called the Desert of Lop.  The city is subject to the Great Khan,
and the inhabitants worship Mahomet."  From the Travels, R. Latham, transl.

> Page 7-8:  No refs on the quote, but presumably from an account of the
> travels of Marco Polo.

Straight out of the Travels.

> Page 8 panel 3:  No refs on Rustichello of Pisa, but presumably the primary
> biographer of Marco Polo.

Co-author of the Travels.

> Page 9 panel 6:  No refs on Shangtu.  Presumably a city in China, possibly
> an obsolete name.

Have you never heard of Xanadu?

> 	Panel 5:  Niccolo, Maffeo Polo:  No refs; presumably Marco's real
> relations.

Niccolo (misspelled in the balloon) was his father, Maffeo his uncle.

> Page 13 panel 2:  No refs on Saint Joseph of Copertino.

Me neither, but Copertino is a commune in Apulia.

> Page 16 panel 6:  No refs on ibn Battuta or Hwen Ts'ang.

Muhammad ibn-Batuta (or -Battuta) (1304-1369?) traveled more widely than Polo,
believe it or not.

> Page 17 panel 4:  Still no refs on Taklamakan.

It's a perfectly good desert in Turkestan.  As a gloss on Green's commentary,
printing has been petrifying human institutions for 500 years, endowing them
with unnatural permanence and rigidity.  Computers, on the other hand ...

-:-
	"We are told by Moralists with the plainest faces that immorality
	 will spoil our looks."
							--L. P. Smith
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: mamcconnell@happy.colorado.edu (Mark (MacBear) McConnell)
Subject: Re: Barry Allen Is Back!!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 29 Dec 92 10:07:35 MDT

In article <esJ9VB10w165w@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca>, panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden) writes:
> <JMC162@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> 
>> Yes!  It's about time.  Barry Allen is back in the newest edition of Flash.
>> He comes home for Christmas and it is a total shocker to me.  I've been
> 
> So what details from Crisis still remain?  Seems to me most of the 
> changes have been reversed, except (a) Ma and Pa Kent are still alive and 
> (b) we have to wait till Superman comes back to know for sure how he will 
> be then.
> 
> Is anyone still dead and gone?

Yes and no.  Kara Zor-El is still dead, although she appeared (sort of)
in a Deadman tale a while back.  Dead but not gone.

mam
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From: maguire@zappa.jpl.nasa.gov (Kevin Maguire)
Subject: Re: The Uncanny Malcolm X-Man
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:11:33 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.202351.1205@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>,
arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) wrote:
> Question:
> 
> Why has nobody in the Marvel universe ever (seriously) considered the
> possibility that Jesus was really a mutant?
> 
> In a world where people fly around, control magnetism, or shoot beams from
> their eyes, and never stay dead, it seems quite reasonable to believe that
> Jesus did "miracles" but had no supernatural help, a position untenable in the
> real world.  One might even expect some (non-Christian) groups to have this
> as an official part of their doctrine....

This would make a great story for next year's big summer X-books crossover.
I can see it now:  the Acolytes or the MLF go back to retrieve Jesus to
serve
their cause, and the X-Men pursue.

Marvel could even bring Veitch in to do it, although X-Factor could stay
with PAD just to see what kinds of one-liners Judas and Pilate would get
in a PAD X-book.

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From: lsmith@myria.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN:Lucien's Library
Organization: Librarian Squids of the Poor
Distribution: na 
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:09:58 GMT


In article <8248@news.duke.edu> eja@carr3.acpub.duke.edu (Eric Akawie) writes:
>
>What books do YOU want to read out of Lucien's Library.  Let's assume
>he's got a comic book section and an AV department too.

Hmmm, I always hate these thread because I only think of the really clever 
ones after I'm done. 

Here's my unordered go at it:

Black Orchid II. Gaiman says that he has another Black Orchid story to tell
but that he'd only do it with McKean and McKean is unlikely to do it. Once
the Black Orchid series is started this will probably be lost.

Chitty-Chitty Bang-Bang Graphic Novel with illustrations by Dave McKean. 
We're talking Ian Fleming's original story and not the brain dead 
bastardization that Dick Van Dyke foisted off on an unsuspecting public.
I loved this story as a kid and the illustrations in the book were all
dark and moody.

Milk and Cheese Storm the Bastille. This made the cover of Pirate Corp$
#2, I think. I just like the idea.

Any issue of The Heckler after #7. The people who run DC are jarheads.

The Marx Brothers' Afternoon at the Zoo. A sequel to Night at the Opera
and Day at the Races in which Harpo speaks, Gummo appears and Zeppo is
allowed to tell jokes. Oh, and the censors are chased off the set at the
start of the first day of shooting. 

Charles Laughton's unfinished version of I, Claudius. Probably was awful
but I want to see it anyway.

A film version of Breaking the Code. Or at least a video tape of the 
Broadway version.

More albums from The Specials, Rock Pile, and The Suicide Commandos.

A complete listing of the personas of David Bowie including a chronicle
of his days in Berlin. (I doubt Bowie recalls anything that happened in 
Berlin.) Illustrations by Norman Rockwell.

_From X-Grad Student to CEO: How I beat Gates and took over Microsoft_ by
Lance "S." Smith. No one put any pipe dream limitations on this thread.

A complete set of the Heterodyne Boys books including the very hard to
find "How to" book containing the later lost chapter on how to construct
a Babbage Analytical Engine. 

----------------------------
  Lance "Cr2O3.2H2O" Smith | "Don't think I'll ever get used to your strange
    (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)    |  clothes or that upper class, public school accent,
 Using up all that promise |  but you're all right. Let's go to the pub. Your
   I showed in my youth.   |  treat."      _Mr Peanut meets John Constantine_
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: Sandman - why the lawyer died
Organization: Penniless Squids of the Poor
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 23:42:58 GMT

In article <1hcq2uINNq48@mirror.digex.com> tsm@access.digex.com (The Secret Man) writes:
>Well, it's all been made clear to me now.  I recently received (in the mail)
>evidence of why "the lawyer" ("Bernie Capax", since we know that was just
>his current cover name) died...
>
>It's a postcard (sent to a company I work for) which says:
>
>"To Collect Your Debts for Less and Save Money", etc., explaining why the
>recipient should call the source of the postcard and use their collections
>services.
>
>The source is CAPAX CREDIT CONTROL.  I wonder which of Neil Gaiman's friends
>they were bothering?

Could be. I wonder if the use of Capax by CCC is a name or just an erudite 
pun. Capax does mean able and ready to receive.

Speaking of labored jokes, do you suppose the death of Bernie suggests that
our "murderer" is fond of Shakespeare?

(Give it some thought and get back to me on it.) 

----------------------------
  Lance "Cr2O3.2H2O" Smith | "I aint never seen the peanut before. Maybe Bugs
    (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)    |  just hired himself some new muscle. Doesn't
     Will be President     |  matter. Put 'im up against the wall with the
         for food          |  rest."                _Mr Peanut in Chicago_
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Subject: Year in Review ...
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 01:01:10 GMT

This has been an exciting year!

* IMAGE! 'nuff said

* X-Men are finally over

* Legion of SH is finally over

Lots of disappointments, and some great stuff too.

Keep on Keeping on award: Mike Grell & Green Arrow. He's got a good
thing, and it keeps being good month after month. The only Dee See title
I read any longer.

Put it out of its misery already award: The X-Men and the Legion
both get this. The Legion has been going downhill since Levitz left,
and they should have cancelled it then. Now, with Giffen gone and 
the Losers writing and drawing it, it should be called something else.
Not the same book by any means.

X-Men get it for Claremont leaving. He was all that the X-Men were.
He had *so* much going on, every book was an experience trying to
figure out the story. Never again. They should cancel this title!
It's like the Mutant Fantastic Four now, beat-em-up and forget the
plot. They didn't know how good Claremont was.

The Tom Palmer World's Greatest Inker ever award goes to: Tom Palmer
again. :) If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

The Best Comic of the Year award goes to: Cyberforce #1. Marc Silvestri
outdid himself and is getting to his true potential. Hard work pays
off, and all those years of X-This and X-That have made it happen.

The Chris Squire Does It Really Happen award is for: Wetworks #1. It
didn't happen. Unless it happens next week, but I doubt it!!! Lots
of hype and no comic.

The He Even Amazed Himself award goes to: Supreme #1 -- I think everyone
would have to be surprised at how good this turned out to be. 
especially after that ad intro section in another book.

The Obfuscated C Programming award goes to: Youngblood for
starting with 0.

The Only Celebrity On the Internet award goes to: Peter David, who
ought to wise up and get a real comic to write. I saw Quesada's
art, and it stank. I expected something good, not another hack
artist. At least Jae Lee had some unusual ideas.

The Woke Up And Smelled The Coffee award goes to:

JERRY ORDWAY!!!

He finally decided to do a real book, Wildstar!! Can't *wait* for
that one.

The BEST COVER ARTIST goes to Steve Lightle once again.

Where Are They Now -- LEGION:

Mike Grell -- GA
Steve Lightle -- covers
Larry M -- inking New Warriors
Levitz -- retired
Giffen -- 9 panel grid on the heckler

Where Are They Now -- X-Men:

JR Jr. -- Cable
Dan Green -- Cable

Claremont -- writes books!

Everyone else: Image!!!

Scott

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From: panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden)
Subject: Re: Favorite Writers
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 09:22:50 EST

djyoung@carina.unm.edu (Danny Young) writes:

> Sorry for the confusion.  I meant that I don't get to read a lot of the 
> writers because I like comics with Superheroes.  For example I don't read 
> Sandman or Cerebus because they really don't jump of the shelves at me.
> Hey not asking for a flame war, I'm sure their great comics, I just never 
> have read one.  And also I really don't get into black and white comics.

Okay; this makes sense.  We can't get around CEREBUS being black and 
white but I'd recommend that you give SANDMAN a try; you're really 
missing something good.  Trust me, I'm a Senator.

Thanks for the explanation, anyway.  
> Basically I was just trying to explain where my viewpoint was coming from.
> 

Understood.  And even if you had read Sandman and Carebus and hated them, 
I wouldn't flame you.... I wouldn't even mind.... I mean,t here's no 
accounting for tastes and there's lots of popular stuff that I don't 
like.  Chacun a son gout and all that.

Namaste,
Elizabeth



Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Subject: Re: "Sunk the Lowest" Award for 1992
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 23:04:49 GMT

YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu wrote:
  
:     Have you all ever noticed that, while the titles most of us buy (I presume
: "tasteful" readers) has drastically gone down, [I know mine has, from the high
: of 1986-7], the amount of money we spend on comics has stayed about the same
: or even gone up?

Really good point... but I'd rather pay $1.95 for one good comic
by Jim Lee than $1.25 for several bad Marble comics. :) Prices
have skyrocketed from $0.65 to $1.25 at Marble and Dee See since
I started reading them full-time, and if oyu want quality
color and paper that's even more $$$ on top of it. A few stunning
books like Green Arrow and Cyberforce and the still inchoate
Wetworks are better than a stack of hack writers and artists.

I think that the creators have wised up in a few short years
and realized people would support them doing quality
stuff of their own, not just plunk down the dollars for
standard Marble garbage. People are putting cash where their
mouths are and buying better quality books. Also, some people
are putting money on Marble cash cows too, unfortunately.

Scott

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From: don@tse.uucp (Don Marks)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.xbooks,rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Happy Squid Appreciation Day -- the SQUIDDIES are here!
Date: 4 Jan 93 01:38:06 GMT
Organization: Toronto Stock Exchange

In article <1i66gbINNkmr@agate.berkeley.edu> goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) writes:
>
>	Incidentally, for those of you who don't know what book to 
>put under "favorite new continuing series": try _Bone_! (If you
>haven't read it already, that is.)
>
I don't think _Bone_ is elegible.  I believe the first issue came out in the 
summer of 1991.  Good book, though.
 
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From: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.xbooks,rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Happy Squid Appreciation Day -- the SQUIDDIES are here!
Date: 3 Jan 1993 08:01:15 GMT
Organization: The Sinister Icy Black Hand of Death Club
Reply-To: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
NNTP-Posting-Host: whirlwind.berkeley.edu
Originator: goldfarb@whirlwind.berkeley.edu

In article <1993Jan3.032922.13765@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
)>10. Favorite team of characters
)
)Do the Endless qualify?  They have a collective name, powers, funny costumes,
)and angst.

	Surely the Endless are a family, not a team.
)
)-----
)Dani Zweig

	Incidentally, for those of you who don't know what book to 
put under "favorite new continuing series": try _Bone_! (If you
haven't read it already, that is.)

-- 
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From: intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac N. Truder)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Favorite Artist Summary
Date: 23 Dec 1992 08:44:34 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


I thought this was a pretty interesting summary.  It was neat to read
all the various comments.  I know some people are getting sick of this
discussion, but it tripped a couple of circuits in my head, re: people
I hadn't mentioned before.

 > (3) Arthur Adams
 >     "Apparently too slow to work on regular books, but still
 > outstanding."
 > 
 >     "Took some getting used to, but for 'fun' stuff, he's right up
 > there.
 >      Sort of did the Liefield frown before Liefield did it."

I like Art Adams, but reading this reminded me of Michael Golden, who I
also forgot to mention (among all my other artists who only I mentioned).
Michael Golden pioneered the style that Todd McFarlane, Art Adams and
the whole legion of current "hot" artists use nowadays.  I remember
looking at drawings of Mary Jane Watson-Parker drawn by McFarlane, and
then looking at some shots of Spider-Woman Golden did for Avengers Annual
#8 or whichever one he did.  The similarity is quite striking, needless
to say.  These guys have moved away from their Michael Golden ripoff
phases for the most part now -- but ask any of them, and I'll guarantee
you they know Golden's name.  I hear tell Michael has problems with his
hands now that make it difficult for him to draw for long periods, but
he still manages to do something special every now and again.  For
instance, the first story in the Marvel Holiday Special that came out a
few weeks ago has Michael Golden art, and it still looks very
impressive.

 > (1) P. Craig Russell

I should have mentioned him as well.  He has a very nice style, when he
wants to.  I saw a poster he did of the Scarlet Witch from Marvel
Comics, and it looked superb.  But was I the only one who was very
disappointed by ROBIN 3000?

And, of course, there were a lot of artists mentioned that I like/am
impredded by/respect a great deal -- I tried just to list my very
favorites, though... people who I would actually be excited if a new
book by them showed up in the store.
From: tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Annotated Stanley & His Monster #1
Date: 21 Dec 92 13:33:48 GMT
Organization: Interleaf

In article <1992Dec19.032430.26565@news2.cis.umn.edu> lsmith@myria.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
>Sorta. It was originally supposed to be Morpheus. Foglio asked DC for
>permission to use Morpheus and they said, "Sorry, no." When Gaiman later
>heard about it, he supposedly said that had he been asked he would have
>approved it as he trusts Foglio. In the meantime, Phil seems to have used
>Wesley Dodd whom DC seems less protective of.

And Nyx was originally supposed to be Etrigan, but in that case when Phil
asked the editor in charge of Etrigan if he could use him, the response was
that the way Etrigan was being written in his own book, he'd kill off the
entire Dover family. Phil then came up with using Nyx and introducing a
sexual tension subplot between her and Spot.

And wait'll you see what Phil came up with due to not being allowed to use
either John Constantine or Willoughby Kipling...(btw, the Wesley Dodds use
was Phil deliberately being silly about the whole thing).

"Tom Galloway went to Lunacon '85 and all he got was this lousy Foglio plate"
  --inscription on the lousy Foglio plate with a picture of me holding a
    plate I got at Lunacon '85 [and by plate, we're talking crockery]
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
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From: dml@athena.mit.edu (David M LaMacchia)
Subject: Re: Sam & Max
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 08:58:39 GMT

In article <2524@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca> derrick@cs.athabascau.ca (Derrick Rowlandson) writes:
>
>Greetings. Would someone be able to tell me wether Marvel has published the
>Sam & Max Color Special as yet, and what is is suppose to contain?

Yeah, the color special came out a while ago...it contained reprints of
lots of the old black and white S&M strips (the first full-length one,
the one from Citters #19, Grimjack #52 (originally in color), and some
others).  There were also a new 16-page story (Beast in the Cereal Aisle?),
and some single-pagers I hadn't seen before.

A good friend of mine wrote to Steve Purcell and got a letter back saying
that there are plans for more Sam & Max in 1993, including a two-issue
limited series and random other products (plush toys?  plush toys?).

--dave