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From: tarmstro@metz.une.edu.au (tarmstro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: World Champ Age Group Results WANTED
Date: 14 Sep 92 01:40:19 GMT

Hi,
  I am after results of an age group (female 20-24) performer in canada
World Champs. Her name is Georgie Harwood from Australia. If anyone
could post or email this result (+/-) any race description/info etc,
I would much appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,
Tim
tarmstro@metz.une.edu.au  
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From: ampe@cbnews.cb.att.com (john.e.ampe)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Re: Equalithon suggestion
Keywords: pity_on_us_swimmers, phooey_to_bikers
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:05:03 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep14.175910.7689@walter.bellcore.com> kenl@origami.cc.bellcore.com (Ken Lehner) writes:
>I've been thinking of attempting to get a triathlon together which would
>follow a format I've (and probably others, too) dubbed an "equalithon".
>The (not-so-novel) idea is to make the TIME spent on each of the
>swim/bike/run legs equal.  The distances for each leg are calculated on
>how far Mark Allen went in 30 minutes during his Hawaii Ironman
>record-setting race.  This comes out to a 1.4mi swim, 12.2mi bike, and
>a 4.9 (or 5.0) mi run.  Yup, the distances look quite screwy, don't they?
>The concept, hopefully, is to prevent a biking (or running) specialist
>from dominating a race (guess what MY specialty is :^).  If A is a
>swimmer, B a cyclist, and C a runner, and A is 10% faster than B and C in
>the water, B is 10% faster than A and C on the bike, C is 10% faster than
>A and B on the run, and they are equal in the other things (i.e, A and B
>are equal on the run), then they would finish at the same time.

What you say is true, but I don't think that's what you mean.
Remember that the 10% stronger cyclist only goes 3.2% faster due to
the cubic relationship between speed and power.  So if A is 10% faster
than B on the run (i.e., 10% more powerful), then B must be 30% more
powerful than A to make up this time.  Hardly equal.  Now, I'm not
sure where swimming lies on the speed vs. power curve, but let's
assume that it's cubic (since it also involves resistance by a
fluid).  Now your 1.5 hour equalithon should be 39 mins. swim, 39
mins. bike, and 13 mins. run.

John_Ampe@att.com
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From: bond@sce.carleton.ca (Greg Bond)
Subject: Broadcast time of World Champs in Canada?
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:13:14 GMT


Have the world championships been broadcast yet? If not, does anybody
know when, what network etc...

--
Greg Bond   ----->   bond@sce.carleton.ca  (613) 788 2600 (ext.1835)
Dept. of Systems and Computer Engineering, Carleton University
Ottawa, ON, Canada K1S 5B6
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From: tjensen@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (todd.r.jensen)
Subject: Re: TT blasting Cleveland
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:05:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.172907.1769@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> hoadley@crayxmp.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bryan D. Hoadley) writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.123805.5927@pixel.kodak.com> birecree@bissun.kodak.com (Jack Birecree) writes:
>>    Did anyone see the latest edition of Triathlon Today? Lew Kidder blasted
>>the Cleveland Race director for the national championships. Apparently the
>>water temperature was much colder than the race director let on and the bike
>>course was too narrow and too rough.
>>

Jeffery Justice in Triathlete also blasted this race.  Supposedly the
Nationals will again be held at Leon's in Hammond, IN if Leon can get
an airport shuttle, a race hotel, and better pre-/post-race activities.
(And Leon always allows wetsuits!)

>I was also at this race and the water was really cold.  The Coast Guard did
>take a water reading and it was 72 deg.  However, I'm not too sure where
>they took that from.  Many people experienced hypothermia and come even
>crashed once they got on their bikes.  I thin one big point that has been 
>overlooked is the fact that Worlds will be a wetsuit race!  I don't care what
>the temp was, they should have allowed wetsuits to field the strongest team
>for Worlds.  And yes, for the weaker swimmers, wetsuits make a big difference!

The article in Triathlon Today interviewed the Coast Guard and they don't
even own a thermometer.  Supposedly several "official" and unofficial readings
were 67-69 degrees.

>The drafting was very bad, especially for the 3rd and 4th waves.  

There's a great picture of a pack of about 30 in Triathlete going up
what must be Martin Luther King Dr.

>
>I think the transition was very fair.  You entered and exited from two different
>sides and you had to walk your bike.  I wish they would have put all the age
>groups together so you could get a feel for your placing but besides that it
>was very fair, everyone was at a disadvantage.

I think swim/bike transition was unfair and the bike/run transition was fair.
Take a look at the transition splits.  Some people had first transitions of
about 20 seconds, others were well over a minute.  Almost everyone's second
transition was about 1 minute.  This was because the swim enterance and bike
exit were on the same side of the transition, meaning people who had
positions opposite this had to run longer to their bike and then run farther
to get out.  A fair transition will have the swim enterance opposite the
bike exit and the bike enterance opposite the run exit.

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From: passier@bmerh9a1.BNR.CA (Chris Passier)
Subject: Re: Good Dave Scott article in Outside magazine.
Reply-To: passier@bmerh9a1.BNR.CA (Chris Passier)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 14:30:46 GMT

Speaking of articles on Dave Scott.  Has anyone read Scott Tinley's
piece on him in the latest Triathlete magazine?  Is it just me or can
you detect more than little bit of sour grapes in there?

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From: jdods@todah.chem.utoronto.ca (Jeffrey Dods)
Subject: Re: Equalithon suggestion
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:07:27 GMT

(Ken Lehner) writes:
>The (not-so-novel) idea is to make the TIME spent on each of the
>swim/bike/run legs equal.  
>
> I'd like to hear from you folks on what you
>think of such a race.

	I think it is an excellent idea, why were the distances for the "Olympic"
	tri picked so much in favour of bikers and runners in the first place?
	Is it to make it more TV-able (read $$) or is it a historical thing?

	Maybe someone who has been in touch with ITU could comment.

	Jeff.
From: dbe2@dcs.exeter.ac.uk (David Bennett)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Worlds in Canada
Date: 11 Sep 92 09:09:24 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. - University of Exeter. UK

Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Worlds's in Canada
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Exeter, UK.
Keywords: 

Hi, 
I've got some friends in the UK age groupers squad in the worlds.

Their names are Steve and Daf Belt, and James Clarke.  If anyone reads
this and is going, and etc etc Please say "HI from me , and good luck"

Also interested in results.

Cheers

Dave


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From: spesau@acs.ucalgary.ca (Shane P Esau)
Subject: Re: TT blasting Cleveland
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 20:31:59 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Sep10.172907.1769@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> hoadley@crayxmp.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bryan D. Hoadley) writes:

>I was also at this race and the water was really cold.  The Coast Guard did
>take a water reading and it was 72 deg.  However, I'm not too sure where
>they took that from.  Many people experienced hypothermia and come even
>crashed once they got on their bikes.  I thin one big point that has been 
>overlooked is the fact that Worlds will be a wetsuit race!  I don't care what
>the temp was, they should have allowed wetsuits to field the strongest team
>for Worlds.  And yes, for the weaker swimmers, wetsuits make a big difference!

Up here in Canada, 72 deg is warm - we usually have water
hovering around 65 deg F.  Also, don't be too sure about World's
being a wetsuit race - I know some people who were in Ontario in
June and had a no wetsuit race.  The water warms up pretty quick.
Personally, I think a no wetsuit race is more fair, it gives us
swimmers a little bit of a chance - I really think it was the
runners who initiated wetsuits :-).  By the way, if the water was
72 deg by ITU rules, wetsuit use was up to the discretion of the
race director, and given that it was your Nationals, wetsuits
should not have been allowed - but this should have been for the
elite athletes only, age groupers should have been allowed to
wear them.
>
>The drafting was very bad, especially for the 3rd and 4th waves.  I think that
>the problem was in the wave ordering.  They should have had Men 34 and under
>go 1st and then looked at times to get the next few orders.  The course was
>very technical and very rough but I have heard that Worlds is even more
>technical.  I don't understand why race directors can't spread the fields out
>an extra 5 minutes, that would definetly thin things out a little more!
>
Muskoka is a very technical course for the bike - read very hilly
- not long hills, but a lot of them and some of them are steep -
One of my friends has been going out and finding a 2 mile hill
and doing repeats on it for the last month or so (like 20
repeats).  Oh well, I guess that is what gets you into the elite
World Championships.

Shane Esau
Univ of Calgary Tri Team




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From: cris@leland.Stanford.EDU (Cristopher Niell)
Subject: Information for a novice
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 18:02:00 GMT

Hi.
   I'm a college student, looking to compete in triathlons this
school year. I ran cross-country for 6 years, so I figure the
running leg should be my strongest. But I'm looking for 
information on how to train for the swimming and biking, as
well as tips on how to put the three together.
   Also, does anybody out there know how I can find out
about upcoming triathlons in the Bay Area? 
			Thanks !

				Cris

P.S. Is there a FAQ list for this group?

Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
From: smithm@muvaxa.rferl.org (Smith, Michael)
Subject: archives and FAQ for this group?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Radio Free Europe
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 09:57:00 GMT

can someone let me know where all the old messages go (that great archive in
the sky) and where do I find the list of FAQ,s.


New subscriber, please forgive me,


		Mike

Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
From: hoadley@crayxmp.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bryan D. Hoadley)
Subject: Re: TT blasting Cleveland
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Spaces Co.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 17:29:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.123805.5927@pixel.kodak.com> birecree@bissun.kodak.com (Jack Birecree) writes:
>    Did anyone see the latest edition of Triathlon Today? Lew Kidder blasted
>the Cleveland Race director for the national championships. Apparently the
>water temperature was much colder than the race director let on and the bike
>course was too narrow and too rough.
>
I was also at this race and the water was really cold.  The Coast Guard did
take a water reading and it was 72 deg.  However, I'm not too sure where
they took that from.  Many people experienced hypothermia and come even
crashed once they got on their bikes.  I thin one big point that has been 
overlooked is the fact that Worlds will be a wetsuit race!  I don't care what
the temp was, they should have allowed wetsuits to field the strongest team
for Worlds.  And yes, for the weaker swimmers, wetsuits make a big difference!

>    A friend of mine did the race and he had the same opinions as Lew.      
>Basically the water was too cold and too filthy. The bike course was set
>up for blatent drafting and the transition area was set up quite
>unfairly.
The too filthy part of the water cannot be blamed on anyone but mother nature.
Cleveland had a few weeks of extremely heavy rain with flooding so the lake was
up a couple of feet.  The race director and coast guard were cleaning it up
two days prior to the race, not an issue in my book.

The drafting was very bad, especially for the 3rd and 4th waves.  I think that
the problem was in the wave ordering.  They should have had Men 34 and under
go 1st and then looked at times to get the next few orders.  The course was
very technical and very rough but I have heard that Worlds is even more
technical.  I don't understand why race directors can't spread the fields out
an extra 5 minutes, that would definetly thin things out a little more!

I think the transition was very fair.  You entered and exited from two different
sides and you had to walk your bike.  I wish they would have put all the age
groups together so you could get a feel for your placing but besides that it
was very fair, everyone was at a disadvantage.

>
>    Tri-Fed continues to have their troubles, but they do such a terrible
>job administering the national championships, they get what they deserve.
>
Steve Locke said that starting next year, they will be running their own 
Nationals, this way they can do what they want.  The problem is that it is up
to the race director since it is his race, tri-fed really has little say.
They are slowly learning

Bryan...
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
Subject: Re: Flair's salary?
To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling (wres)
Posted-Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 13: 28:16 CDT
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Gary J P writes:

> If anyone knows how much Ric Flair makes, could you please post it or
> e-mail it to me.

In the WCW, I think he was making somewhere around $700,000, and they
wanted to cut it in half.

I heard Vince offered him $2,000,000 to come to the Whiff for two years
(not sure if that was $2M per year or $1M per year).

Anyone keeping a list of wrestlers' salaries?

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Date: Sunday, 13 Sep 1992 17:15:52 EDT
From: <IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: PWI Top 500

     What kind of drugs is Bill Apter dishing out at PWI?!?!
62-Riki Choshu
109-Genichiro Tenryu
114-Barry Horowitz
157-Hiroshi Hase
209-Masa Chono
     Are they mad that Japanese cars are selling so good.  Or do they
just have a natural hatred for Japanese wrestlers.  And Barry Horowitz
114!  That makes him pretty good doesn't it.  Better than Hase and Chono!
Sure.  Lets be more serious PWI.

Brent Sutherland
From: v058kchy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Joseph Avolio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Wrestling TidBits   -   09/10
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:58:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BuDM67.EH3@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca>, hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze) writes...
> 
> 
> - WCW has it's annual Halloween Havoc PPV on October 25, 1992.
>   Tentative line-up includes:
>     - Jake Roberts vs. Sting in a "Spin The Wheel, Make The Deal"
>       match, where Sting will apparently spin a gimmicked wheel 
>       to determine which type of match takes place.  Matches 
>       on the wheel in the "Spin The Wheel Saloon" sketch were
>       (in alphabetical order):
>     - Rick Rude vs. Masa Chono for the NWA Heavyweight Title
> 

......another match will be Ron Simmons vs. The Barbarian for the WCW title
        (OH BOY!!!)

                                             JoMosh
From: oliver@Software.Mitel.COM (Oliver Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Vince hit by chair (was Re: Please, no more Re: P
Keywords: Flair McMahon
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:58:19 GMT
Organization: Cosmic Monsters Inc.

>> He won in Hershey last Tuesday.  Plus, Flair and McMahon get along very
>> well.  What makes you think otherwise?
>What makes you think they get along famously? I'd be pretty mad at a guy
>who knocked me out with a chair. :-)      

Hi,

Just a correction, it was Piper who hit Vince with the chair.

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From: ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com (Otto Heuer #3)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: [WCW] H. Havoc '92
Date: 7 Sep 92 23:28:46 GMT
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Posted-Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 18: 28:46 CDT
Received-Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 18: 28:50 CDT


I could only make out parts of 10 of the 12 items on the wheel for
WCW's "Spin the Wheel--Make the Deal" wheel:

Texas Death Match
Coal Miner's Glove
Russian Chain Match
I Quit
Barbed Wire
Prince of Darkness
Lumberjack Match
Cage
_____lar Match
__arr___ Match
______
______

One could psossibly be "surprise match".  I think Jim Ross said
something about that.  I suppose one could be a hair match.  I probably
could have made out all 12 if I had had the foresight to tape the 
Clash in Super-VHS... might have to do that this coming Wednesday for
the re-broadcast.

I doubt very much if we'll get to see a barbed wire match--though I
definitely would make that my number one choice.  Much more likely
is something boring like a lumberjack match or a cage match.

		--Otto "Cactus Hack" Heuer
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From: Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
Subject: [WCW] H Havoc - my choice for main event
To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling (wres)
Posted-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 9: 27:42 CDT
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Let's try sending this again.... (damn mailer)...
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This is how I would rank the ten choices from best to worst:

        Barbed Wire
        First Blood Match
        Viewers Choice
        Texas Death Match
        Cage
        Russian Chain Match
        Dog Collar Match
        Texas Bullrope Match
        Coal Miner's Glove
        I Quit
        Lumberjack Match
        Prince of Darkness

and Stink and Snake should bleed heavily.  :-)

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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: Wrestling TidBits - 09/10
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:33:18 GMT

In <Bun3qB.ACu@acsu.buffalo.edu> v058kchy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Joseph Avolio) writes:

>......another match will be Ron Simmons vs. The Barbarian for the WCW title
>        (OH BOY!!!)

....HEY!! I think the Barbarian has earned a title shot at Simmons.
After all, he's been in WCW for two months, which is long enough, he
beat Barry Windham last week, and he had a sterling record in the WWF
against opponents like Barry Horowitz and Tito Santana. 

Now if THAT doesn't qualify you for a shot at Simmons....

Yes, I'm kidding.

Mike
From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Lex Luger Accident Rumor
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 23:10:05 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

TODD BOBENRIETH <TAB129@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

> I heard from a reliable source that Lex Luger was in some kind of
> motorcycle accident and that he is in Magnum TA condition...has anyone
> else heard this? That would suck, especially if he was to get the title
> at Mania IX. I'm anxious to hear responses...


Nope...Luger's disappearance can be blamed on the WBF's failure.
 
Another casualty of the WBF demise: Cameo Kneuer.
 
Hopefully, she still co-hosts Body Stars. But enough of *MY* hormones...
 
--Don

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From: v070qg5d@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: New Best Of Video Revisited
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:54:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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    The new "best-of" video that I was helping Dave Scherer put together
seems to be in some trouble.  We got about 20 responses, far less than we 
expected, and we may have to shelve it if we don't get more interest.  I
thought I'd repost this to try to get to get more people interested.  After
all, some people are just getting back to school this week, so here's the
story.

   Dave's putting together a six-hour compilation video of great choice
matches from Japan and Mexico (and maybe some rare North American matches).
Whetever is voted on.  We need to get more people interested in order to do
it, though.  The price is, for now, $25.  Matches will be voted on through 
e-mail.  The system will work much the same as Herb did it earlier in the
year.  If you'd be interested, just send me a piece of e-mail in response to
this message.  If you've already sent me e-mail about this, please don't 
answer again.  I have your addresses saved.  I'll let everyone know if we're
going to get this thing going in the next 10 days.  Thanks...

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