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From: jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender)
Subject: ** New at ftp.nevada.edu(131.216.1.11) for 8/12 **
Originator: jamesb@redrock.nevada.edu
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 02:06:43 GMT

	Grateful Dead
		Rubin And Cherise c
		Cassidy c
		Loser c
		Foolish Heart c
		The Golden Road c
		Looks Like Rain c
		Mission c
		Scarlet Fire c
		Uncle Johns Band c
		Comes A Time c
		Let It Grow c
	Pink Floyd
		Signs Of Life t
	Steve Vai
		Sisters t
	Stray_Cats
		Stray Cat Strut c
	U2
		One cp

	The README, MOST.WANTED, and INDEX files have been updated for your
perusal. 

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* jamesb@nevada.edu *                                       -- N. Peart       *
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.music.progressive,bit.listserv.allmusic,rec.music.bluenote,rec.music.misc
From: reh@wam.umd.edu (Huddleston)
Subject: Re: Steve Vai
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 03:23:02 GMT

In article <2A8DA69A.22489@orion.oac.uci.edu> jgray@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Jeff Gray) writes:
>In article <Bt09I9.6o0@andy.bgsu.edu> sarnold@andy.bgsu.edu (G. Steve Arnold) writes:
>>mwelie@cs.vu.nl (Welie van M) writes:
>>> Does anybody know what Steve Vai is doing currently. 
>>
>>	Hopefully getting a soul to go with his technical perfection.
>
>Oh, please, no... you had to go and start, didn't you?
>
>WHEN WILL THE FLAMING END?  HAVEN'T WE LEARNED FROM OUR PAST MISTAKES?
>--
>Jeff Gray               
>Dept of ECE, University of California, Irvine
>jgray@balboa.eng.uci.edu                             "Is logic just a synonym
>                                                           for this savagery?"

As one who just learned this lesson, let me say that I think Steve Vai 
has just as much soul as Slash.  And I don't think he has to sound like
Stevie Ray Vaughn just to prove it. ;-) ;-) ( <-- these are winks.  They
mean that this posting is tongue-in-cheek, and that I ain't trying to 
start somethin'.)

-- 
Richard Huddleston                     |  My on-going mission:
reh@wam.umd.edu     Personal opinions  |  To boldly go where no one has
NeXTSTEP is better: Boycott Microsoft  |  ever gone before.  <Swish!>

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From: harper@godot.think.com (Jim Harper)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.rock-n-roll.hard
Subject: test
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:06:52
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: alt
NNTP-Posting-Host: godot.think.com




test
From: css1rs@gondor.mcs.surrey.ac.uk (Russell Smithers)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Guitar Lesson
Date: 17 Aug 92 08:37:52 GMT
Organization: University of Surrey, Guildford, England
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I had my first guitar lesson this thursday, it was great. It
realy opened my musicle eys a great deel. So I only learn't
a bit about 3 chord theory and about root's of chords. But the
guy that's teaching me, is realy good. I don't know what it is
but I think ive just moved on a big step, as far as I mental
atitude an awarnes goes. Im still crap (im not putting my self
down, just saying that at the moment I know hardly anything).

What did other people feel like after there first lesson?
Im interested.

Cheers.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: germ@leland.Stanford.EDU (Germain Wong)
Subject: Wanted:   Inexpensive   U s e d   G u i t a r
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 00:17:01 GMT



Hi,

I am looking for an inexpensive used guitar, just good
enough for a beginner...  (preferably a Classical one,
but steel strings are ok, too).

It would have to be inexpensive cuz' I am on a tight
budget this summer...

Sooo... if you have an old / spare one lying around
collecting dust, why not consider selling it?

Thanks,
-- 
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      	       |  germ@leland.stanford.edu	gewong@orixa.mtholyoke.edu
 Germain Wong  |  129 D, Escondido Village	Mount Holyoke College
	       |  Stanford University.		South Hadley, MA 01075.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: kent@netcom.com (Kent Crispin)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: My thumb can't do the Hendrix
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:13:46 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Aug20.161117.7781@cabezon.uucp> larryh@cabezon.uucp (Larry Huntley) writes:
[about using thumb for fretting]
>
>	All things get better with practice.  If you can afford an
>	electric and intend on playing electric, by all means shop
>	around for one.  Don't get one simply to get over this hump.
>	The world's finest classical guitars have wide, flat necks
>	and relatively high action, but people with average-sized
>	hands make beautiful music on them...

OTOH, it isn't part of standard classical technique to use the left
hand thumb, and nothing in the classical rep (that I know of, at
least) requires it.  I have tried playing Hendrix on classical, and I
gave up trying to use my thumb.  Usually there is an alternative
fingering using a first finger barre that will work almost as well --
sometimes you have to leave out some of the notes of a chord, or just
rearrange things a little.  The characteristics of a classical guitar are
so different than an electric that you frequently need to arrange things
anyway (you just don't have the same access to the 20th fret, and no
whanger bar, for example :-)

Maybe I'm weird, but I find that there's lots of Hendrix that I think
sounds real good on a classical...

>	Happy Playing

Indeed!

-- 
Kent Crispin			"No reason to get excited",
kent@netcom.netcom.com		the thief he kindly spoke...
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: serge@dgbt.doc.ca (Serge Ah Hee)
Subject: Re: New Effect
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 12:25:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.154130.13197@pride386.PP.COM> terry@pride386.PP.COM (Terry Lyons) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.95844.16808@ms.uky.edu> aash@ms.uky.edu (aash) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug11.081625.14500@EE.Surrey.Ac.UK> css1rs@gondor.mcs.surrey.ac.uk (Russell Smithers) writes:
>>>I expect you can allready do this but, what about an effect's
>>>peddle that does the doppler (spelling?) effect? The change in pitch
>>>you get when an abulance goes past.
>>>
>>>Opionions?
>
>It's called a phase shifter and has been around for at least 15 
>years ...
>terry
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Is there anything such as a pitch shifter. Something of the likes that 
you play a note, and the output come out one octave higher?

serge

-- 
Serge Ah-Hee                  "Most troubles come from the fact that people 
serge@dgbt.doc.ca		take for granted of what they have, and 
				only care for what they want."
My opinions are mine only.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.guitar.tab,rec.music.makers
From: jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender)
Subject: ** New at ftp.nevada.edu (131.216.1.11) for 8/22 **
Originator: jamesb@redrock.nevada.edu
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 01:11:21 GMT


	Beatles
		Drive My Car
	Cat Stevens
		But I Might Die Tonight (easy c)
	Jimi Hendrix
		Angel c
	Jethro Tull
		Lifes Long Song c
	Don McLean
		American Pie (easy c)

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* From: James B     * "Life is a diamond you turn into dust."                 *
* jamesb@nevada.edu *                                       -- N. Peart       *
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From: peugh@wam.umd.edu (General Napolean)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Gibson Guitars
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:06:39 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park


  Recently there was talk of some company started by a bunch of people who 
worked for one of Gibson's plants that closed down.  I didn't have the foresight
to capture it, so could someone tell me what the name of their Company is, and
what one of their Les Paul renditions goes for?
 thanks.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: basinski@biosci.arizona.edu (Mark Basinski)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Playing with fingernails
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:26:22 GMT
Followup-To: alt.guitar
Organization: Univ. of Arizona

In article <1992Aug19.213444.12027@sdf.lonestar.org>, emtz@sdf.lonestar.org
(Edgar Martinez) wrote:
>  When I practice, I warm up by playing scales. My teacher suggested trying
> as many combinations of fingerings as I could, for example: i-m today,
> a-m tomorrow, p-i, p-a, even a-m-i (hard to get used to). He just wants me
> to play scales well every way. I like that idea.
> 
> Edgar Martinez
> emtz@sdf.lonestar.org

     It is very important to practice all the permutations of right hand
(and left hand)fingerings in order to develop a good overall technique, 
since you never know when you'll need to be able to do some odd
combination.
I would repeat that, once a player has advanced beyond an intermediate
stage,
most people will find one particular combination that works best under most
circumstances, and for most people this is a two finger alternation.

one other tremolo comment, there are a few classical players (notably K.
Yamashita, the avenging ninja of the classical guitar) who have practiced
and developed ONE finger tremolo, i.e. say using i alternating up and down
like a plectrum. In fact, Yamashita can do this with any finger on his
right
hand, including c (!!!) and in some pieces he'll do a terrifyingly fast and
smooth tremolo with c, while playing other notes with p,i,m, & a!! (but
he *is* a mutant, not human at all, or perhaps he's actually an *alien*!!)
I myself don't really care for his interpretations, but if you want to hear
some truly amazing technical achievements, look for his recordings, or go 
see him perform live. You may not *like* it, but you'll be astounded.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Basinski      Internet: basinski@biosci.arizona.edu
From: glaurent@wombat.inria.fr (Guillaume Laurent)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: What is a "strat" ?
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:14:05 GMT
Organization: Koala Project, Bull Research France

In article <1992Aug11.170833.20738@scubed.com>, denio@scubed.com (Dennis C.
O'Neill) writes:
> 
> No, it couldn't be a violin - those are "Strads", or Stradivarius violins
> (Stradivarii?)
> 
"Stradivarius" (fst name Anton, if I recall well), is the name of
the luthier who built violins and cellos which are considered
to be of utmost quality, a loooong time ago. So it's not "Stradivarii" :-).

Note that, however, a Stratocaster is to guitars what a Stradivarius is to
violins and cellos. So messing up the two wouldn't be a great mistake.
(except maybe for your wallet, Strads usually cost hundreds of thousand $$).

					Guillaume.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: peugh@wam.umd.edu (Arthur Dent)
Subject: More theory questions (groan)
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:44:16 GMT


  First of all i once again send out a big thanks to all those who've answered
my previous questions.  But i've got more :)
  When i asked about the chords someone said that in the ninth chord you should
play a seventh chord and move the root up to the ninth, an 11th chord is a 7th
with the third moved up to the 11th, etc. 
  I don't quite get the moving of the root or the third.  How is this 
accomplished, and what does it do?

  I was also wondering about resolution theory.  Resolving means when you play
suchandsuch a note in suchandsuch key they next note should be suchandsuch, 
right?  Well how does this work?

  Thanks.

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: plauterbach@cortex.prospect.com (Peter C. Lauterbach)
Subject: Re: Playing lefty in a right handed world
Organization: Cortex Corporation, Waltham, MA, USA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:07:19 GMT
X-Posted-From: cortex.prospect.com
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

in alt.guitar, wlamonac@purcell.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca) writes:

> As a lefty who was made to play right handed because the people who were
> teaching me thought it would be better for all concerned, I can say there
> IS a difference.  I have been playing for 12 years and in that time, I have
> not been able to learn how to fingerpick, even for the simplest patterns.  I
[rest deleted...]

A little more of the story:

	I actually DID play right handed for a while, way back in seventh
grade.  The class played rockin' hits like "puff, the magic dragon" and "what
shall we do with a drunken sailor?".  Even then, righty felt wierd.  I asked to
be allowed to re-string for a lefty, and the music teacher just gave me a look.
(she's dead, now...)
I made it throught the semester, but never really got the hang of it, not even
strumming smoothly.

	Flash forward to college: I bought a lefty Hondo strat for under $100
just on a whim. I started taking lessond, after goofing around with it for a
while, and make good progress,  'bout the same pace as a righty.

	The morale of the story is that it may not be too late for you to try
playing left handed.  Who knows, you might even become ambidextrous, and need a
large heart shaped Vai-like guitar...

P.S I play drums too, but right handed !
P.P.S. I have a lefty Hondo strat copy for sale...

-- 
Peter C. Lauterbach			Cortex Corporation	(617)622-1900
Technical Account Manager		100 Fifth Avenue
plauterbach@cortex.prospect.com		Waltham, MA 02154
From: whc2993@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Blues Group
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:35:00 GMT
Reply-To: whc2993@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology


	Well I think the next step is to see how many people would like to have
a seperate group for blues music.  I don't know how many votes it takes to
create one so maybe someone else can fill me in on the specifics.  People
probably wouldn't want everyone posting here with preliminary voting so you can
send an Email to me.  Also send any No votes.
							B.C.
				


********************************************************************************
"The blues is a low down achein' chill"  Robert Johnson
********************************************************************************
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:49:15 -0400 
From: Bill Thomas <bt16+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Steve Morse, Steve Vai, Satriani, Robert Johnson

It seems like Eric Johnson would also go on this list. Would you say
he's somewhere between Satriani (though a better songwriter) and Morse?
Of all the new breed of guitar heroes, E. Johnson seems the most
impressive.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: jdb@mudshark.att.com (Basil)
Subject: Re: What is a "strat" ?
Organization: Bell Laboratories
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:29:14 GMT

In article <SCHOUTEN.92Aug10151042@sp17.csrd.uiuc.edu>, schouten@sp17.csrd.uiuc.edu (Dale Schouten) writes:
|> In article <Bss439.H1D@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ury@mossad.cs.huji.ac.il (My Friend Of Misery) writes:
|> > Forgive my humble question, what a "strat" is? some kindda guitar I guess?
|> 
|> Well, it depends.  If you're talking to a guitarist, it's probably
|> some sort of Fender Stratocaster, or perhaps a copy of one.  If you're
|> talking to a fiddler (AKA violinist) then it may be a fiddle made by some
|> old italian who was fond of latin.
|> :-)

Then again if you are talking to Don Ho it could be a stratolele, a ukelele
with three single coil pick ups and a whammy bar. ;-)

			--Basil


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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: What is this thing worth?
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:28:59 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug12.144228.5440@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> rg@futserv.austin.ibm.com (R.G. Keen) writes:
>Path: exucom.exu.ericsson.se!ericom!sunic!mcsun!uunet!olivea!apple!bionet!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!ibmchs!auschs!awdprime.austin.ibm.com!futserv.austin.ibm.com!rg
>From: rg@futserv.austin.ibm.com (R.G. Keen)
>Newsgroups: alt.guitar
>Subject: What is this thing worth?
>Message-ID: <1992Aug12.144228.5440@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>
>Date: 12 Aug 92 14:42:28 GMT
>Sender: news@awdprime.austin.ibm.com (USENET News)
>Reply-To: ...@cs.utexas.edu:ibmaus!auschs!tmn1.austin.ibm.com!tung
>Organization: IBM Coporation - Advanced Workstations Division.
>Lines: 6

>I inherited a bass amp, head only, no cabinet. I'd like to move it,
>but got zero replies to my local advertising. Does anyone know what 
>a reasonable price for this thing is? It's an Ampeg B-25r, two channel
>head with only tone controls and switches, and a 55 Watt output section.
>It's all tube. Should I throw it away, or hoard it until the next 
>collector's convention? Neither?

I vote for the collector option.
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From: scotc.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Song Request
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:44:21 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

Anyone know where I can find the guitar chords and words for "Rainbow   
Connection" that muppet song? ?
thanks, hopefullt
(hopefully)
SAC
BoCoMo
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: jeff@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Jeff Skaletsky)
Subject: Re: Guitar Center Sale
Organization: Quake Public Access, San Fernando Valley, CA (818)362-6092
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:39:23 GMT

In article <l8l5nnINNprc@skat.usc.edu> ahasham@skat.usc.edu (Allen Hasham) writes:
>
>      I got a thing in the mail saying that they are having a 
>    sale until August 31st. I dont know if its all Guitar Centers or 
>    what but here are some of the prices they had listed

>   American Strats $299

I forgot to mention - this again!  The flyer DOES state very clearly
that this is the Fender Prodigy, not the "Stratocaster".  As I said,
not a bad looking/sounding guitar... but NOT an "American Standard".

Just to keep things clear....


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From: hirschfb@news.uwyo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.guitar.tab
Subject: 12 String Method//Theory Query
Date: 16 Aug 92 21:08:01 MST
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Wyoming - Laramie, WY

Hello all. I recently purchaised a 12 string guitar, and was wondering if
anyone might help me to find some good info on 12-string specific method,
and/or tunings, fun stuff, etc. 

I am also wondering if someone could post some info on how to change chords
between two songs of differing keys. Anything that can be posted will be
thanked appropriately.

Lastly I am looking for guitarists interested in swaping notes on Celtic/Irish
/Scottish music. This type of music is a bit different in style and theory, and
I know a few songs, but would like more info on how to pull this type of music
from the air.

Thank you..
hirschfb@corral.uwyo.edu
From: dcampbel@timshel.austin.ibm.com (David L. Campbell)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Ty Tabor's Guitar Sound
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:41:30 GMT
Organization: IBM Austin, TX

In article <1992Aug14.044900.16165@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> root@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (System PRIVILEGED Account) writes:
>As I am a HUGE fan of Kings X..I would like to know how to get that
>massive guitar sound that Ty Tabor gets....my guess is that its his
>Yamaha RGZ (w/ active pickups) through a Yamaha Amp w/no
>effects...totally dry 


Nope.  He's a Yamaha endorser, but he more often uses Fender Stratocaster
Elites -- a model they made around 1984, but is no longer in production.
He uses some kind of preamp, but he won't tell anybody what it is -- he
says they're out of production and he is trying to buy out any that he
can find and he doesn't want any competition.  He also uses these big,
funky, green, triangular picks that he claims his whole playing technique
is based around -- says he can't play without them.  Everytime he finds a
stash of them in a music store, he buys 'em all, because evidently
they're hard to find also.  As you can see, he's pretty obsessive about
his sound (but it seems to be working!).  All this info comes from the
Guitar Player article that came out about 9 months ago.


David.
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: pauly@hardy.u.washington.edu (Sky Cries Mary)
Subject: Hendrix Bootleg stuff
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 06:39:15 GMT

I was recently digging through some old reel-to-reels I got from my uncle and  I found what seemed to  be Hendrix, but it was really unprofessional.  Anyways, I asked him about it and it turns out it's a copy of some stuff Jimi used to do at home.  My uncle went to school in REnton with his sister and she made him a copy.  I haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but he does Angel on it really amazing.  I think there's an acoustic Wind Cries Mary also that's reall good.

Newsgroups: alt.guitar