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From: gt0297a@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Drury)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: new ATI Ultra drivers
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:17:36 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <BzCznu.6B8@world.std.com> bsn@world.std.com (Brent S Noorda) writes:

>I installed the recent ATI Ultra that I had taken from the OS/2
>Shareware BBS, which claimed to have just got it from ATI.  I assume
>this is the same.  This is for OS/2 2.0 GA release.  You first
>setup OS/2 for VGA, not 8514, and then run a short install program
>that installs drivers and alters config.sys, also allowing you to
>select resolutions up to 1024x768.  I chose 1024x768 because it allows
>me to get even tinier text than the 8514 mode.  So now there is a little
>more room on my desktop.  It doesn't seem to be any faster or better in

how is that?  8514 is 1024x768x256.  how is your text smaller with the
same resolution?

>I installed the ATI driver because I though it would give me
>seamless windows.  It didn't.  If it should have, then someone please
>let me know.  My full-screen win/os-2 drivers had to be reset again
>for 8514 because after the ATI install it had been set to VGA.

8514 under GA will give you seamless windoz, after the service pack,
however, that went away.

>Summary: If you have a big screen and want all your text and icons to
>get a little smaller (more/smaller stuff on your screen), then use
>the new ATI drivers--but they're nothing to write home about.

ATI is nothing to write home about.  ATI and Exxon must have attended
the same public relations school.  i am happy with 8514 but i probably
could have gotten that cheaper than having to buy the ATI card.  I
was actually expecting that ATI would write drivers for os/2, so I
could get 8514 resolution but at an accelerated pace.  guess i was
wrong...

-tim
From: bjorn@ludd.luth.se (Bjorn Fahller)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Work-area bug
Date: 13 Dec 92 16:40:07 GMT
Organization: Lule} Tekniska H|gskolas Datorf|rening - Ludd

Defining folders as work-areas seems to be a good way of giving yourself
more work, or at least make you work longer with what you're doing. I've
defined a folder as a work area, containing shadows to 3 disk 
directories (described in my article about WPS inefficiency). Opening 
the work area is neat and makes you think it's a breeze. Closing it, 
however, usually ends with one of the following scenarios (in order of 
frequency):
 
1. The folder brings all of WPS with it, as it collapses. WPS restarts
   again in a short time, and once again brings up the work area.
2. It seems like it works, but a following shutdown of OS/2 never
   finishes. (tried waiting no less than 6 hours once)
3. WPS freezes. Can C-A-D out of it, but nothing else (that I know of)
4. The system freezes with a register dump (happened once only)
 
Sometimes it even works, though, but that's quite unsual.
 
I like the idea of work areas (why else would I have defined one) but
I think it'd be pretty slick if it worked. Anyone else experiencing such
things? Any known medicine?
 
   _
/Bjorn.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis) (OS/2)
Subject: Re: Alt-Home not working
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:26:54 GMT

In article <7622.244.uupcb@nitelog.com> craig.chester@nitelog.com (Craig Chester)  writes:
>Does anyone else have a problem with Alt-Home not working as
>advertised, to switch a view between window and full screen modes?
>
>Using the pull-down menu to do the switch works, but is a nuisance.
>
>It appears that the Alt-Home is just being passed on to the active
>program in the window like any other key (though not until the Alt
>key is released--odd).
>
>(This seems similar to, but different from, the known CSD problem
>with the "stuck" Alt key; toggling Alt rapidly does not help, and
>the problem occurs in windowed mode too, before the window loses
>focus by going to full-screen.)
>
>Could it be that OS/2 isn't recognizing my 84-key keyboard layout?
>(Horrors!)  I am running the ServicePak, with its standard SVGA
>driver at 1024x768 on a Tseng 4000 board.
>
>Any thoughts would be appreciated.

This Alt-Home buglet is the only real bug I have found with the SP.  I have
included text from the SP bug report.  Reading it may help you understand
how to avoid it somewhat.  Let me shut up now so you can read it.  :)

:
:<<< OS/2 SERVICE PACK XR06055 - KNOWN PROBLEMS AND FIXES    >>>
:Subject : OS/2 SERVICE PACK XR06055 - KNOWN PROBLEMS AND FIXES
:OS/2 SERVICE PACK XR06055 - KNOWN PROBLEMS AND FIXES
: 
:The following is a list of the known problems that can be introduced
:by installing the OS/2 2.0 Service Pack XR06055. Where possible, a "work
:around" solution is given for the problem. Most, but not all of these are
:problems with video adapters and the new video drivers.
:
[... video bug reports removed to save bandwidth ...]
:
:9. The ALT+HOME key will not work in a DOS Full Screen session once it has
:   lost focus. A DOS Full Screen session will lose focus when the user
:   switches to the Desktop and selects any object there with the mouse.
:   When the user switches back to the DOS Full Screen session, the focus
:   is lost.
: 
:   The work around for this problem is to switch to the Desktop, select
:   the icon for the DOS Full Screen session that lost focus, pop up the
:   context menu for the session with the right mouse button, and choose
:   "Windowed". This will restore the focus as well as make the DOS window
:   appear. The ALT+HOME hot key will now function until the session is made
:   full screen again and it loses focus again.
:
[ ... sticky Alt-key bug report removed ...]
: 



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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dlc@ddsdx2.jhuapl.edu (Dave Collard x7468)
Subject: How to Kill a process?
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 23:45:34 GMT

Is there a way, from the command line, to 
stop a process ?  Please email your response
to dlc@ddsdx2.jhuapl.edu.  I would think that
there would be a command to do this.  I can
find out info about the process, how come I 
can't figure out how to kill it?

Thanks.

--D. Thor Collard
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jurlwin@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU (Jeff Urlwin)
Subject: Re: question about nov. pdk
Organization: University of Maine, Department of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:55:53 GMT

In article <92350.120936DWK110@psuvm.psu.edu> darren karns <DWK110@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>the beta version of os2 2.x which is in the november release of the pdk, is tha
>t the beta version of os2 2.1 which is due out in feb. or march ?
> any thoughts would be appreciated. please respond by post or email
>

Yes.

Jeff
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: lotozo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William A Lotozo)
Subject: OS/2 NOT 32 Bit?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:40:16 GMT

I have heard some people claim that OS/2 is not a 32 bit operating system
but actually a 16 bit os running a 32 bit os emulation.  Is this so? 
I thought that if anything it was a true 32 bit os with a 16 bit emulation
for backwards compatability to os/2 1.x programs.
From: benezra_a@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: SHIFTRUN (Was OS2SYS.ini file size: Interim solution.)
Date: 13 Dec 92 05:11:45 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

> 
> That is exactly why I wrote it.  (Well, not for Trident drivers, but to debug
> video setups, etc.)

Michael, you wrote that program? It is great and i thank you. I just wish i had 
it a couple of months ago as well. I have been trying to get the AC: parameter 
working on my diskcache line in config.sys. No go. No matter how i install it, 
the system kicks it out with an "invalid parameter" message. But shiftrun has 
saved me literally hours of waiting. Thanks again.
ab
> 
> Keep in mind that you are booting OS/2 off of your hard disk.  There will be
> some things that you cannot do from a SHIFTRUN launched program that you can
> do when you boot from floppy.  CHKDSK c: /f comes immediately to mind.  Also,
> 
I run chkdsk from a separate os/2 partition in boot manager. Without wps or pm, 
the partition boots in about 7 or 8 seconds. there is a problem with the SP 
kernal which doesn't allow a ctrl-alt-del reset. You need to hit the hard 
reset. It takes a little longer to auto check the drive on boot up, but all in 
all it is much faster than floppies.
From: Robert.Dyess@f6507.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Robert Dyess)
Sender: FredGate@ocitor.fidonet
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: NEC Pinwriter P20 driver?
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:13:00

TO:je@unix.brighton.ac.uk

je@unix.brigton.ac.uk (John English) writes:

>Where are all the real NEC drivers? (I've asked before but got no
>answers -- is it my imagination or do only easy questions get replies? :-)

A friend of mine who also is unfortunate enough to have a Pinwriter called 
NEC and was told that they had no plans to write a driver for the P2200/P20 
for use with OS/2 because this line of printers has been discontinued. So 
unless IBM writes a driver for us, and I doubt they will, we're out of luck.

Robert

robert.dyess@f6507.n124.z1.fidonet.org  
 
 * Origin: *AmeriComm*, 214/373-7314. Dallas'Info Source. (1:124/6507)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: greve@rs1.thch.uni-bonn.de (Thomas Greve)
Subject: Re: Block device drivers in DOS.
Organization: University of Bonn, phys. Chemistry
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:44:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec7.154025.82060@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> etl1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (EMIL THOMAS LERCH) writes:
>This may be a stupid question, but I have been told that any question worth
>asking isn't stupid, and I haven't seen it in the FAQs, so here goes. 
I think it's really worth being asked, especially as i know an answer :-)

> I have
>two machines that I would like to use a program such as Fastlynx to create a
>peer to peer network through a serial or parallel port (I'd rather the
>paralell but I can't seem to get that to work with OS/2, DOS works fine).  To
>do this I have to create more drive letters, which is exactly what OS/2 won't
>let me do in a virtual DOS session.  Is there a way around this limitation, or
>must I boot plain DOS to do this (which would make it worthless)?
The work around is a `native' DOS session booted into an OS/2 VDM.
Like `Dos from drive A' in your `command prompts' folder. You can make
an image of that disk (vmboot, if i remember right) and boot from that
image. You'll probably want to take a 720K disk for that purpose, as
an image of the whole disk is made.

>  I figured
>I'd see it discussed sometime, since at least to me this seems like a fairly
>big limitation, but I haven't, so any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.
Some further remarks: be sure to copy fsfilter.sys to that disk to
access the underlying OS/2 disk(s) and install it on that disk's
config.sys; switch IRQ_DURING_IO *OFF* (you will run into bad old
reentrancy problems, otherwise); you may have a look at the help for
vmdisk for further help.

I have a novell lite server (with ARCnet hardware) installed that way,
and it run's quite smoothly... :-)
-- 
				- Thomas

   greve@rs1.thch.uni-bonn.de
   unt145@dbnrhrz1
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mhunter@ho13.eng.ua.edu (Mark W. Hunter)
Subject: Re: Startup Folder
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:26:11 GMT


I realized the error in my assesment of the situation about 30 seconds after I
sent out that post. New policy: Think before posting! heh heh

Mark
From: hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1?
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:08:28 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) writes:
>ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET writes:
>>(electronically). There are some pretty big bugs in 2.0 XR06055 and I expect
>>them to get fixed.

>How do you determine the "XR" number?
>Is there a bug list available, so us newcomers (to OS/2) can tell whether
>the things we see are bugs or "features"?  :-)

Run syslevel from an OS2 session to get your current info. There was a
list of bugs addressed by the Service Pack; it may still be on 
software.watson.ibm.com, but I haven't looked lately.

-- 
Tom Hatton
hatton@cgl.ucsf.edu
(415)-476-7986
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: klotz@x.cip.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Juergen Klotz)
Subject: hp550 driver
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 08:41:42 GMT

first of all:
due to  a bug in the nntp server i repost the following question !

P L E A S E:
for that reason -- reply by email !

is there a driver available for the hp 550 deskjet printer capable driving both
the color an the black/white cartridge at same time ??
meaning printing the 3 colors + black ??

i plan to buy this printer, or are there any other suggestions for a cheap and
   G O O D   color printer ??

by the way a few weeks ago i posted a question about a ATI mach3 graphics card
capable of displaying 800x600 true color an up to 1280x1024 (i guess) hi-color!

no one outa here ever used that  card with OS2 ??
i'd like to here somthing about that card , like benchmarks, etc.

ijuergen klotz

please reply by email to
  klotz@cip.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de

due  to the mentioned bug in the nntp server !
From: gsk@idx.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: IBM won't accept Internet problem reports any more
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:45:50 GMT
Organization: IDX Corporation, S. Burlington, VT

In article (Hans-Joachim Kirchhoff) writes:
> 
> Since CIS charges the RECIPIENT of a message from the internet (IBM in this
> case), I am not very astonished. It is several cent you have to pay for
> the message, depending on the size. I don't know how many messages they
> received from I-Net, but I would imagine, it must have been quite some
> $$ worth.
> 
> -Hajo
--

Well.. IBM in BOCA-RATON has several active news/e-mail feeds, and
they do watch this and other OS2 related areas here on the net..
And.. I've gotten mail from them on occasion with internet reply addresses..
So there is NO technical reason to not allow bug reports from internet
directly that I have been able to see...

I have asked them repeatedly why they are focusing on Compu$erve only, and not 
allowing internet to run in parallel, and never got an answer..

It seemed to me to be in their interest to win over the hearts and minds of
both the people in industry here on the net, as well as the students and
teachers found here also. (This is the route Apple took many years ago, and
helped firmly root their acceptance in the office environment. There are many
current and future developers here!)

In looking at the Microsoft developer area, they too are exclusively on
Compu$erve..  

I have a hunch that it is to IBM's and Microsoft's financial advantage to hold
their forums on Compu$erve. Think of the $$$$ that Compu$erve is making from
the participation of these two computer giants in their network. This is
a marketing coup of the highest order! 

As part of the IBM DAP acceptance letter, a Compu$erve introductory brochure
was included, and all DAP forums are there also... My guess is that
some of the $$$$ paid to Compu$erve is making its way to these two hosts...
I'm not saying this is wrong.. since both IBM and Microsoft should be
compensated for their support, but I, for one, would like to hear them
be up-front and explain WHY they decided to go this route. I liken this to
honorarium fees paid to speakers.. Let's face it, the vendors provide much of
the value of those forums.

Personally, however, I see no reason why I should support both the 
vendors, AND Compu$erve.. So, I will live without direct support from 
them, and probably learn just as much here as I would in a forum on 
Compu$erve... There is a GREAT bunch of people here, and please, Tim Sipples,
don't leave us!

Somehow, I think that any major problem first reported here, or solution
first appearing here, will make it's way "magicly" to the OS/2 developers/
support personnel!  And, we do get to hear about most of the solutions
coming out of IBM here too...

				-- George --
Disclaimer: (Maximum)
All comments are personal, and do not reflect the attitudes of anyone else.
------------------------------------------------------------
- George Kaczowka   IDX Corp  Marlboro, MA  - gsk@idx.com  -
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2,comp.os.os2.misc
From: george@ve7frg.ampr.org (George Farris)
Subject: Where can I find Logitech Mouseman drivers - bus version
Organization: G.M. Systems
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:18:00 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Keywords: mouse logitech mouseman


Sorry if this is a FAQ I don't normally read this group and I didn't see
a FAQ.  I'm looking for a mouseman driver for OS/2, any help would be
appreciated. Apparently Logitech "Doesn't do OS/2".

E-mail would be appreciated as I don't have good access to news.
Thanks in advance.

-- 

==========================================================================
George Farris - VE7FRG          Internet  :  george@ve7frg.ampr.org
                                 Amprnet  :  george@ve7frg.ampr.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: burkley@nosc.mil (Joe Burkley)
Subject: Minimizing window with REXX
Keywords: minimize, rexx
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:21:32 GMT

I have a little application that has no need to run in an open window, but
I can't use start /min to run it.  It is a rexx program that calls some
os2 exe code.  Right now I have the rexx code call itself like this

Original invocation: "example"
then the program parses the startup arguments and calls itself with
start /min example run_me

where the "run_me" parameter is used to check whether this is the first or
second invocation of the program.
This works OK, but isn't very clean.  So back to my question, is there a
way for a rexx program to cause itself to be minimized?

A second question.  The os/2 applicaiton my rexx code starts likes to throw a 
lot of garbage to the screen.  Currently I redirect the output to a file and
then delete the file.  Can a redirect it to a null file?

				-Joe Burkley

				burkley@opus.nosc,mil
From: John.Cocula@f347.n109.z1.fidonet.org (John Cocula)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: File Systems and Bac
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:09:04 -0500

In a message to All <12-11-92 01:57>, Matthew Edward Patton writes: 

 ME> 1. Where,how are the Extended attributes stored?  Is it tacked onto
 ME> the
 ME> end of the file? Are they kept in a special hidden file in the
 ME> directory?

Under HPFS, all or part of EAs are kept in the fnode (similar to
Unix's inodes).  Under FAT, they are kept in clusters referenced by
\EA DATA. SF. Otherwised unused slots in FAT directory entries refer
to these clusters. 

 ME> 2. The popular OS2 compression Utilities Info's Zip and UnZip, do they
 ME> keep track of extended attributes and successfully store them?

Yes.

 ME> 3. Are sources for OS2's backup.exe and restore.exe available?

No.

 ME> 4.  Has ANYONE gotten Borland C++ 3.1 to run under a dos window in
 ME> OS2.

I have heard that one has to set DPMI to ENABLED, not AUTO in the
DOS session's Session page. 

 ME> 5. can a DOS program access the extended attributes or is there a way
 ME> to "dump/extract" the attributes and then "paste" them on again?

DOS programs don't see EAs, and often lose them.  OS/2 has an
OS/2-only utility called EAUTIL that will split them off into files
and rejoin them. 

 ME> 6. Is there a Programmers' guide to the OS2 kernel or os2/mdos kernel
 ME> available? (something like the Norton Programmer's guide to DOS:
 ME> funcalls, interupts, the works)

OS/2 has numerous reference books available from IBM.  Microsoft
has/had ones on the 16-bit API.  They are all on-line for $15 on
CD-ROM (if you are in the U.S.): 1-800-3IBMOS2. 

 ME> Explaination:  I want to write a HD backup program for os2 which will
 ME> operate under either FAT or HPFS and use the TurboVision IDE style
 ME> interface. (if you know how I might implement the interface under gcc
 ME> or something else let me know)  Anyway, I plan to develope under BCC
 ME> and run it as a DOS app under OS2.  Is this possible? Feasible? 

Sure, but an OS/2 backup utility would be more popular if it were an
OS/2 app, not a DOS app.  Borland has their 32-bit C++ development
environment in beta test right now, supposed to be out 1Q93 (soon).

John

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: kvien@Elkraft.Unit.NO (Oddgeir Kvien)
Subject: novice question
Reply-To: kvien@Elkraft.Unit.NO (Oddgeir Kvien)
Organization: University of Trondheim
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 12:25:55 GMT

I am trying this again, since my last article was corrupt (thnx to Jochen 
Friedrich, who was the only one who did replie).


I am going to learn OS/2 PM programming and I got some simple questions:

They might be rather stupid, but you dont learn if you dont asks questions.

1. I have seen that a lot of people is recomending Petzold`s book on 
   programming OS/2 (I have ordered it, but I don`t know if my local dealer 
   can get it). What book is recomended if Petzold`s book is imposible to get.
   (What is the 2`nd best book on programming OS/2?)

2. Are there someone who got some simple OS/2 programs which shows the basic 
   of how to program OS/2 (class registering, message que creating and so one).
   A program which shows simple line drawing would alsoe bee nice. If so could
   they email them to me (I got a lot of space where I could save my mail).

3. I am about to finish reading Petzold`s book about Programming Windows 3, 
   and I guess there is similarities between OS/2 and Windows programming.
   There is of course differences in the API call and the fact that OS/2 is
   a much bether multitasking operating system (multi threading). I guess 
   that registering of the classes, windows, dialog boxes and so on are much
   the same. Anny oppinion?


Thanks.


      Merry christmas and a happy new year to you all. 


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