From: kumar@ug.cs.dal.ca (kumar yelubandi)
Subject: the word FUCK
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:04:56 GMT

>Subject: Re: fuck / jtrue
>Message-ID: <72003@cup.portal.com>

>What? Fuck is a perfectly good anglo-sax
>to describe what our uptight culture has only
>medical terms(mostly) to describe.

>I don't think it implies institutionalized misogyny
>at all. Everybody who has sex fucks. Are Gay men and 
>women who use the term indulging in hatred of women?
>In rec.arts.poems, jtrue@acpub.duke.edu (jtrue) writes:

>> 
>> -jtrue
>> 
>> PS:
>> The biggest problem with
>> fuck with respect to sex
>> is that it essentially means hate
>> (hence the violence;
>> toward women by men).
>>  



	Hmmm...others can interpret differently, but sex is essentially
a physical act.  It's a mashing of the groins...a collision of cock and
cunt to put it bluntly.  'Fuck' is merely the documenting term.   

	As far as promoting violence towards wimmin...possibly. 
Unfortunately, there's a certain fraction in the community that engages 
in violence towards wimmin...the cretins belonging to this group often see 
wimmin only as property, something to beat up and beat off on.  
To these, 'fuck' is the working term for sex.  Love and intimacy humanizes
wimmin; 'fuck' dehumanizes them to masses of meat...hence the 
working terminology for this cretinous class.  In this sexual union,
there is a 'fucker' (the cretin), and the 'fuckee' (the mass of meat).
The classic dichotomy of "to fuck' or 'to be fucked' results.

	However, there is an innocuous side to the word 'fuck'.  Most 
people use it as a term of endearment (sarcasm attempted here).  The 
word 'fuck' is a method of venting steam, a channel for negative energy 
to drain through.  In many instances, it is a substitute for violence...
the 'action of inaction' so to speak.  Hence, it is a handy term for
heading off violence, "two dogs barking because both are afraid to bite".
(it could be used to incite violence, too, I suppose...but more often 
to diffuse, I think)

	And of course, there is the 'erotic interpretation'.  The term
'fuck' is (paradoxically) an intellectual stimulant.  It's a dirty word
that ignites erotic fantasy...and as apples on an apple tree, it is common
in the phraseology of mutual vocal foreplay.  In any resulting sexual
union, there are two 'fuckers' (both partners in a couple) and two 'fuckees' 
(again, both partners).  Dichotomy being included, on occasion, by mutual
consent.

	Conclusion:  To reconcile many different usages of the word 
		     'fuck' into one common consequence (ie. violence
		     against wimmin) is invalid, IMHO.


	Kumar

ps:    It's been a long time...I see Marek is still here...where's
       Guiseppe Verdi??

ps:    By the way, has anybody been 'marek-ed' lately??  You gotta
       admit...there's a certain flow to it.    :)

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