HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Not at all Re: Hate mail
Summary: includes NYC dinner reminder -9/20, 7pm, Sung Hai
Date: 14 Sep 92 10:36:29 GMT
Organization: (getting there)

In article <1992Sep13.221822.5215@panix.com> ro@panix.com (r l reid) writes:

 >I also can't fathom why these motss gettogethers are always held in
 >Chinese cuisine (usually Sechuan, but let's not get distracted
 >in THAT side alley again).

Well, yes dear, but _you_ looked for us at Sung Hai on Saturday, and
we were in fact at Hudson Cafe.  Nice place, and comfortable enough
for the four of us, but not suitable to the kind of crowd that
showed up at the Labor Day weekend dinner.

 >I think the next NYC one should be picnic on the pier, brings your own
 >and enough to share.  And MINE is PB&J, without apologies. Homma
 >IKE dassa PB&J.

I do like the idea of BYO Food (I am *not* going to make that BYOF, not
in this crowd, and set off a chain of "can't someone in the crowd
provide the 'F'?" responses).  However, next weekend (9/20, 7pm) is
at Sung Hai.  Howard Solomon will be in town.  Sung Hai is at the
corner of West St. and W. 10th St.  Reply to me, please.

Mara [about to get very busy with other things]

-- 

  Mara Chibnik
  mara@panix.com                Life is too important to be taken seriously.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: brent@syacus.acus.oz.au (Brent Davies)
Subject: Re: Publicity
Organization: Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Melbourne
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:38:27 GMT

joelp@cs.man.ac.uk (Joel Parthemore || Pharos Project) writes:

>William Henry Harrison (as opposed to Benjamin Harrison) defeated Grover
>Cleveland in 1888, even though Cleveland topped him in the popular vote.
>(Cleveland, the Democrat, was seeking re-election at the time, and was indeed
>re-elected in 1892.  ``Ma, ma, where's Pa?  Gone to the White House, ha, ha,
>ha....'' -- Cleveland was accused in the 1884 election of having fathered an
>illegitimate child!)

Actually, the Republican taunt during the campaign was "Ma! Ma! Where's my
Pa?"  It was the Democrats who got the last laugh by *completing* the
slogan after their election victory:  "Gone to the White House! Ha! Ha! Ha!"

ObMotss: None at all. So sue me.  :-)

--Brent
From: key@soda.berkeley.edu (peter li'ir key)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: god save us nelly queens!
Date: 10 Sep 1992 13:30:58 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu


i act as i choose to act.  and i don't give a shit what anyone else
thinks.

more tomorrow when i get back from a business trip.

goddess save us nelly queens!

peter li'ir key, who is himself
key@soda.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: crombie@iisat.alt.ns.ca
Subject: Re: move to canada, eh?
Organization: Public Access UNIX
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:32:38 GMT
Summary: cruel but fair

In article <1992Sep9.182154.28328@nevada.edu>, clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb) writes:
> This was my fortune when I logged in today:
> 
>      "In any world menu, Canada must be considered the vichyssoise of
>      nations -- it's cold, half-French, and difficult to stir."
>                      -- Stuart Keate
> 
> I remember some comedian calling Canada, "America Lite."

Cruel, but fair. It was Voltaire who dismissed Canada as "a few acres
of snow," but the last word came from someone whose name escapes me
(which is probably why he or she gets the last word) who noted that
Canada should have become the greatest nation in the world, combining
the best attributes of Western Civilization -- British government,
American ingenuity and French Culture.  But instead, we got French
government, American culture and British know-how.

Me, I vote Yes.



-- 
Kevin Crombie		Public Access Unix
UUCP:  {dalcs,ulowell}!iisat!crombie
From: jrd@lynx.frame.com (James Drew)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Frame Technology gets Domestic Partners benefits
Date: 9 Sep 1992 16:50:13 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I'm proud to announce that Frame Technology Corporation of San Jose,
California, has decided to extend health coverage (medical and dental)
to domestic partners of Frame employees.

The benefits extended will be the same medical and dental benefits as those
entended to "traditional" families of Frame employees.  The definition of a
domestic partner makes no mention of gender, merely specifying factors such
same residence, minimum age (18), unmarried, and economic co-responsibility.

The benefits coverage will begin on October 1, 1992.

------------------------------
                             |     As I stared, the kid's plate spun around on
Jim Drew                     | the counter.  When he stopped it, he took a bite
jrd@frame.com                | of the mashed potatoes in front of him.  Then he
(Furry: Randy Puritan)       | released the plate, and it began to spin again;
"Innocent, but not naive."   | he stopped it for a bite of chicken fried steak.
B2h t w- c k s g+(p) rv p    |     "Did you ever have the feeling you were
S8/5 g l+ y+ o+ a+ u++- j++  | being watched?"  I asked the sheriff, and looked
{opinions: mine != frame's}  | from side to side.  "By David Lynch?"
                             |		- Marc Lynx, "Broken Bokken"
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: tovah@panix.com (Tovah Hollander)
Subject: Re: trivia
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:24:03 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

Jeff Putnam writes:
RE: Groucho Marx singing "Lydia the Tatooed Lady"
>Later on he sings "here is Grover Waylon unveilin the trilon",  huh?
>Who is Grover Waylon and what is a trilon?

This must be a reference to the 1939 New York World's Fair, the double
symbol of which was the Trylon (a tall column) and Perisphere (a dome-
shaped building).  The Grover in question -- Fair designer or director?
Governor of New York?  I dunno.  (There's a terrific documentary about
this fair which shows up on PBS occasionally: "The World of Tomorrow.")

-- 
Tovah Hollander
tovah@panix.com -or- tovah@onion.salad.mssm.edu
From: sfsmith@pennsas.upenn.edu (Sandy F. Smith, Jr.)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: "Bashers" Article in "The New Republic"
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:13:37 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <13725.2aae1176@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>,
chloupek@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
> 
> To all net people interested in what's going on in Oregon,
> 
> There is an article titled "Bashers" in the latest (9/21) issue of "The New
> Republic."  It talks about the Oregon Citizens Alliance, worried about "a
> homosexual takeover of southern Oregon."
> 
> Read it for an insight into how the phobes *think* (if that is the appropriate
> word) ;-)
> 

Having read the piece, I can now answer:

They have sphincter-shaped crania.

**************************************************************************
Sandy F. Smith, Jr. ____________________________ sfsmith@pennsas.upenn.edu
Graduate Division, School of Arts and Sciences, University of Pennsylvania
16 College Hall, Philadelphia, PA 19104-6378.  (Opinions mine, not Penn's)
 
"The God I serve don't make no trash!"
      -- Rev. Emanuel Cleaver, Mayor, City of Kansas City, Mo.
From: mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (mike batchelor)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Publicity
Date: 14 Sep 92 11:55:27 GMT
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

mattm@Apple.COM (Matthew Melmon) writes:
> While I would not go so far as to claim there is some sinister cabal
> out there dictating an acceptable 'Party Line' - this newsgroup *is*
> basically one big, inbred family.  Everything is so convenient.  There
> are all these *evil* people out there bent on the destruction of 
> the homosexual community, and the only thing stopping them are the
> True Faggots of soc.motss.  True Faggots suffer where no one asked them
> to, then turn around and expect applause from those of us who have
> somehow managed to peacefully co-exist with the Establishment.  Even
> become comfortable.  Hob-nob with the corporate elite.  Etc.  If the
> applause from our sector is not loud enough, we, the False Faggots, 
> are repressed, self-hating 'homophobes' (a really stupid word - just
> what the fuck are the homophobes afraid of in the first place?).
> True Faggots are learned in the proud histories of our community,
> know from whence the *snap*, what the flags all mean, and various
> sundry things I *don't* know, so can't very well write down.  True
> Faggots react with shock and horror at the thought of someone *not*
> finding red lipstick, high heel pumps, sparkles in hair, curvey,
> floppy walks, screams of delight at the opening of a door, etc.
> *attractive*  Again, such a person is *obviously* a self-hating,
> internalized homophobe, and probably a raging bigot to boot.
> 
> Perhaps it has not occured to you that alienating the True Faggot
> community does not weigh too heavily upon my soul.  Besides, I'm
> doing you a favor.  You need nasty villains to point your fingers
> at, lest you degenerate into a bickering, in-fighting mass of
> confusion.  Or even worse, a giant support group, patting each other
> on the back, oohing and ahhhing over every little post till the
> cows come home.  The True Faggots have been remarkably unified these
> past weeks.  You should be thanking Mr. Sarver and me.
> 
> And so, TTFN. 
> 
> *moi*
> 

I want to fuck you, Matt.  I want to fuck you and take pictures.



[] ---
[] Mike Batchelor -- mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us
[] Long Beach, California
From: harris@currituck.cs.unc.edu (Trey Harris)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: What is virginity?
Date: 5 Sep 92 17:25:21 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

Now that this thread seems to be winding down, let me drop another
little bombshell in the mix:

All this time I have been protesting loudly that I was really a virgin
(strange, isn't it?  Why the heck was I protesting?  Everyone else
seemed to agree with me, but I was nonetheless protesting...) I had
managed to conveniently forget something.

Yes, I know what you're thinking... haha, he's *forgotten* that he's
not really a virgin...  Yes, ridiculous, I know.  But I suppose with
all the talk of encounters that at least had some modicum of
consensuality, I had forgotten my first (and to this point, only)
sexual experience;  I was raped when I was eight.  It's
something I ordinarily block.  It's strange, really.  I'll remeber it
at the weirdest times (such as right now) but without something to
remind me of it, I will forget once again completely, as though it had
never happened.

Anyway, just wanted to set the record gay. :-)

Trey Harris
--Stranger in a Strange Thread!
From: wje00@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Warren Jay Eggly)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: NPR on Printing "Gay Ideas"
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:32:35 GMT
Return-Path: <@juts.ccc.amdahl.com:wje00@juts.ccc.amdahl.com>

> From: pc@linus.mitre.org (Penny Chase)
> Subject: NPR on Printing "Gay Ideas"
> Message-ID: <PC.92Sep7094333@bacon.linus.mitre.org>
> Date: 7 Sep 92 14:43:33 GMT
> Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service)
> Distribution: soc
> Organization: Research Computer Facility, The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA
> Lines: 23
> Nntp-Posting-Host: bacon.mitre.org
>
> This morning NPR's Morning Edition had a report on the trouble Beacon
> Press had in finding a printer for "Gay Ideas," a book of essays by
> Univ. of Illinois philosopher Richard Moore.  Beacon Press was turned
> down by 23 printers before they found one willing to print the book.
> The director of the press said that she knew the book was
> controversial, but she hadn't expected the first battle to be finding
> a printer (she thought that since printers are also in publishing that
> they would have been on the press's side).  The book was turned down
> because it contains photographs and drawings (by Mapplethorpe and Man
> Ray, among others) that the print shops considered pornographic and
> would offend their workers.  It turns out that one of the printers
> that turned down the book prints Penthouse Magazine.  The NPR reporter
> asked a spokesman for that print shop if there was a double standard
> operating.  The spokesman said he didn't think so, but the reporter
> could draw whatever conclusion he wanted to.  The NPR reporter then
> wondered what would happen if some of their female employees objected
> to printing Penthouse, would they stop printing it?  The spokesman
> said that he couldn't answer that.  Truly a priceless moment.
>
>         Penny
> --
> UUCP:  { ... }!linus!pc
> INTERNET:  pc@mitre.org

I called Becaon Press and talk to the Publicty Department. They said that the
book will be available on October 15 and my be order by calling 617/742-2110
ext. 596. That the book should also be in Glad Day Book Store in Boston and a
Differnt Light in San Francisco.

eggs




Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rogerk@QueerNet.ORG (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Subject: Re: accordion bashing
Reply-To: rogerk@QueerNet.ORG (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Organization: QueerNet
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 06:21:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.154447.25172@tc.cornell.edu>, shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu
(Melinda Shore) writes:
|> Q:  If you drop an accordion and a banjo off the roof
|>     at the same time, which hits the ground first?
|> 
|> A:  Who cares?

Anyone who's heard "They Might Be Giants," of course.
-- 
ROGER B.A. KLORESE                                              +1 415 ALL-ARFF
rogerk@unpc.QueerNet.ORG                 {ames,decwrl,pyramid}!mips!unpc!rogerk
"Normal is not something to aspire to, it's something to get away from."
                                                                   -- J. Foster
From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Hate mail
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:58:39 GMT
Organization: insert anything here

In article <1992Sep9.165706.6246@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>Yeah, I got a similar piece of mail.  Yawn.


	Hey, where's MINE? I feel so left out........

	Steve, did he call you a "bitch", like he called Melinda?

	he sounds to me like someone who didn't get into grad school....

BBC
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Don't faint dead away but...
Date: 5 Sep 92 21:58:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Sep5.215815.5595
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <92249.120725IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Ailsa N.T. Murphy) writes:
>could you repost the address to send photos to for the archive?
>i'm getting some film developed...

Sure:

Steve Dyer
27 Chauncy Street
Cambridge MA 02138

Include a SASE if you want 'em back.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: markm@ogicse.ogi.edu (Mark Morrissey)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: YAT (Yet Another Thread)
Date: 10 Sep 92 04:25:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.42590
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR

Sorry to change the Subject line, but this really isn't about Laura so
it isn't fair to keep her name on this thread.

In article <1992Sep10.003828.17449@microsoft.com> bobsarv@microsoft.com (Bob Sarver) writes:
>
>/Be a sport and participate.  Your childish tactics of avoidance are getting
>/entirely too boring.  
>
>Christ, another .edu poster who thinks he should have been in screenplay.
>Feeling the old righteous fervor today, are you Mark?  

Bobby, you have become a bore.  You just aren't worth the time here anymore.
However, since we are going to be having a mini-con in Seattle in October,
you will have a chance to be a bore in person.  I do hope you have the
intestinal fortitude to show, I am looking sooo forward to having a manly
chat with you.

Of course, you wouldn't be too scared of us nelly queens to make an
appearance and perhaps a statement, would you, Bobby?

--mark
--
Mark Morrissey           One Hatred to rule them all.  One Hatred to find them.
markm@cse.ogi.edu        One Hatred to bring them all and in the darkness bind
                         them.  In the land of Bigotry where the Shadows lie.
From: harris@currituck.cs.unc.edu (Trey Harris)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Orson Scott Card
Date: 5 Sep 92 17:29:31 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

In article <1992Sep4.233055.22377@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:

>Does anyone have a copy of the article from Orson Scott Card? A friend
>of mine has trouble believing what I told him, so I want to get a copy
>of the original.

Please, me too!  I have a lesbian friend who is a librarian and a big
fan of his, and she wouldn't talk to me for a week after I told her,
and I didn't have any proof.

Thanks.
Trey Harris
--Stranger in a Strange Thread!
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From: rcw@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM (Robert White)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: NEWSWEEK POLL: Plurality of Americans support GAY RIGHTS
Date: 7 Sep 92 07:04:42 GMT
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: The WhiteStar Corporation

In article <9209060159.AA198478@sub.aix.rpi.edu> buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire) writes:

|Should homosexuals have equal rights under the law?
|78% YES
|17% NO

And, presumably:
 
 5% - What's homosexuality?






-- 
  [   Robert Carleton White, Jr.                      rcw@scicom.alphacdc.com]
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: johnf@uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu (John Flanagan)
Subject: Re: trivia
Organization: University of Hawaii, Dept. of Physics & Astronomy
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:22:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.044900.10553@nmt.edu> jefu@nmt.edu (Jeff Putnam) writes:
>
>Later on he sings "here is Grover Waylon unveilin the trilon",  huh?
>Who is Grover Waylon and what is a trilon?

Grover Whalen was president and chief huckster of the 1939 World's
Fair, the symbol of which was the Trylon and Perisphere.  The Trylon
was the three-sided obelisk which towered over the Perisphere (into
which one could walk inside and see a panorama of the city of the
future, Democracity).

--John
-- 
John Flanagan                          ||"Pretty boys
johnf@uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu           || with the sunshine faces
U. of Hawaii, Dept. of Physics & Astro.|| <mumble mumble>..."
2505 Correa Rd., Honolulu, HI 96822    ||            -- My Bloody Valentine
From: kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: World's First Known Bottom Found in Alps
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:48:21 GMT
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1992Sep10.143508.27254@spdcc.com>
dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:

>I'm firmly in the Anthony Berno camp--don't tell me
>that it's a hoax or that he was raped and killed.  I want to imagine
>that my Neanderthal, in totally revealing leather, walked bowlegged
>across the Alpine tundra.  Sigh.

I hate to pop your bear balloon, Steve, but if Otzi lived and froze
5,500 years ago, he was a "homo sapiens sapiens", not a "homo sapiens
neanderthalis".

And she snaps her opposable thumb...<***>

Brian
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jeff@heckle.tamu.edu (Jeff Raymond)
Subject: Re: sunglasses and hats
Organization: College of Architecture, Texas A&M University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:15:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.161005.15294@spdcc.com> rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:
>amz@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (Arnold M Zwicky) writes:
>>i, too, am a sun-sneezer.  well, any bright light.  on first
>>exposure to bright light, i give two or three hearty sneezes,
>>causing people who don't know me well to worry that i'm
>>coming down with a cold or something.


I had a friend with the same condition.  And there is a medical term for it,
if you want to impress people at parties:  Vasomotor Rhinitis.  Impressive.

Could be a wonderful excuse to get out of commitments:  "Sorry, I'd love to,
but I've got VASOMOTOR RHINITIS."  And then sneeze.
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: "Without homosexuals, there would be no Hollywood"
Date: 16 Sep 92 02:41:39 GMT
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA

In article <1992Sep15.153036.24760@Princeton.EDU> Jay Lieske Jr <jay@wanda.princeton.edu> writes:

>The fireworks really began when Whoopi made a comment about homophobia in
>the industry.  Liz got all flustered; then she blasted "Without
>homosexuals, there would be no Hollywood!"

Heh.  I am reminded of TO BE OR NOT TO BE, among the few Mel Brooks
films I can think of worth watching more than once (if at all).
"Let's face it ... without Jews, fags, and gypsies, there would *be*
no theater!"

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "I don't know how much support NAMBLA
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  has in the gay community."
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /   -- Clayton Cramer, August 1992
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: scotts@CS.CMU.EDU (Scott Safier)
Subject: Re: L.L. Bean & Linda Bean
Originator: scotts@MORPHEUS.CIMDS.RI.CMU.EDU
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:24:46 GMT

In article <rizzoe.229.716130812@FASECON.ECON.NYU.EDU> rizzoe@FASECON.ECON.NYU.EDU (Emily Rizzo) writes:

   There was a recent posting on GayNet about Linda Bean.  She is running 
   for Congress  in southern Maine and is very anti-gay.  Her written 
   materials accuse her opponent of being in favor of "mandatory gay
   rights."

  What strikes me most about this whole thing is that I went to
college with one of her cousins (L.L.'s grandson).  He was openly gay.
Several years after we graduated, I had heard he was killed in New
York.  He was gay-bashed.

ENO IS GOD!

Scott
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Quayle on Homosexuality
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 02:31:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.173125.6693@PacBell.COM> rjwill6@pbsdts.sdcrc.pacbell.com (Rod Williams) writes:

>QUAYLE CONTENDS HOMOSEXUALITY
>IS A MATTER OF CHOICE, NOT BIOLOGY

This is rather fortuitous.  I'm not sure we've ever had a more
convincing piece of evidence to the contrary.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "I don't know how much support NAMBLA
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  has in the gay community."
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /   -- Clayton Cramer, August 1992
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