From: corey@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (william.c.brown)
Subject: Re: What is lacking in UNIX? (Re: UNIVEL MUST BE KIDDING!!!!!)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 13:42:07 GMT
Summary: Incompetent is not the word.

In article <1992Dec18.162803.9167@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, ytsai@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (charles.tsai) writes:
> In article <68@nearside.UUCP> shwake@nearside.UUCP (Raymond Shwake) writes:
> >
> >>> Make UNIXWARE $150 and you will see a different story.
> >
> >Given USL licensing fees, and the current business models driving the UNIX
> >vendors, getting to this range is quite unlikely, but if they don't come
> >close to it, Microsoft is going to clean their clock. Like "Poor George" Bush
> >             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >before the recent election, neither USL nor UniVel yet Get It.
> >                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >-- 
> >
> >uunet!media!ka3ovk!nearside!shwake			shwake@rsxtech
> 
> I absolutely agree.
> 
> BTW, I admit I'm biased.  I was working for USL on the Destiny.  It is
> a shame to see such a good product go nowhere.  When I worked for USL, I
> tried my best to convince USL to give schools SUBSTANTIAL discount for her
> products but failed.  I also tried to convince people in USL to sell the
> fundamental set of Destiny in an affordable price (< $100), using an example
> of "drug dealing" which was used by other vendors.  But I still failed.
> I don't believe that Destiny will get a small piece of market from NT if
> USL maintains the same policy. (Sigh!)  BTW, I am very surprised to find
> out UNIVEL is so incompetent in marketing UnixWare!!! (Sigh again!)

Boy! Incompetent is not the word. I have tried and tried to hook up
with somebody at UNIVEL who knew ANYTHING about the product and to
date all I get is the run-around. I wanted to get involved with
the early developers program (because I believe in the basic strategy)
but when I call UNIVEL I get the phone transfer blues. Heres an 
example. The early developers program offer was opened several weeks ago
(I read about it on the net). If you call UNIVEL you can get a 
sheet faxed to you that allows you to enroll in the program. The
sheet contains only enough lines to indicate that you want to be
in the program and that you would like the PE and the DEV KIT (BASE??)..
Well, since I want more than the BASE dev kit I tried calling to
find out how I could get some add-ons. I was transfered 5 times and
finally ended up on somebody AUDIX who never bothered to return
my call... What a shame. I really want Destiny to take off but
if the little guys are not allowed to get their hands on the product
you can forget about even coming close to Microsofts' success with
WINDOZE!!... DOS has enjoyed years of success with literally THOUSANDS
of applications and games available via anonymous BBS's, wouldn't it
be great if UNIXWARE could attain the same status??? The only way 
thats going to happen is if UNIVEL can get the price of the product
down and get it in the hands of the general public...

enough said.....

> 
> Could someone in USL pass this message to Roel?  (Don't deny.  I know you
> guys are watching closely on this net group.  8-)
> 
> 
> -- Charles Tsai  att!keeper!ytsai


/* -----							*/
/* Corey Brown  (WB0RXQ): 20m, 15m, 2m(146.82) 70cm(443.65)     */
/* AT&T NSD							*/
/* Alpharetta, Ga 30202						*/
/* (404)750-8071						*/
/*			-----------------			*/
/* att!alphlk!wcb          | They're history in terms of the	*/
/* attmail!wcbrown         | future! (lws-91)			*/
/*							  ----- */


Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.misc