From: rjb3@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (robert.j.brown)
Subject: Re: Triglycerides
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:44:15 GMT
Summary: I am a data point

In article <1993Jan22.172205.692@rose.com>, ron.roth@rose.com (ron roth) writes:
> 
> Date Entered: 01-22-93 12:19
> 
> 
> There are good (HDL) and bad (LDL) triglycerides just as with 
> cholesterol.
> The test you had done most likely measured your TOTAL triglycerides, 
> which is as inaccurate as measuring the TOTAL cholesterol only,
> without distinguishing between the good and the bad types, as in days 
> gone by.
> 
EDITED OUT MATERIAL
> 
> Reducing your sugar intake in any form or shape is the best insurance 
> to keep your triglycerides under control!
> 
>                                                ~Ron Roth~
> ---

Ron et al.

I am a data point for a controlled fat intake approach to lowering
triglycerides:

[Perhaps we could argue my approach confounds sugar control with
fat control]

The docs have told me that I am a Type IV hyperlipedemic.  When I
was 32 my Total cholesterol was 140 and my triglycerides were 130.
By age 36 my cholesterol was 172 and my trigly was 400.  I was
about the same 150-200 T.C. and 300-500 trigly till.....


01/92             MALE CAUC   45 yrs        Clothed Wt 238 lbs at 6'1"
	   
In recent years I have become bigger, but not fatter to the eye.
No beer gut or love handles, just big all over.  WHen I started
this program, people around me did not understand because I wasn't
a fat boy.

Date       Total Cholesterol   HDL    Ratio     Total Triglycerides
*********************************************************************
01-92            218            30     7.3          950
03-30            141            28     5.0          174
08-04            129            25     5.2          200
02-93            NEXT VISIT

My clothed weight is now holding steady at about 195 lbs.

My method is to limit my fat intake to a target of 40 grams Average per
day (did not discriminate betw sat, unsat, monosat).  For the first
couple of months (Feb and Mar) I averaged about 1600-1700 kcal per
day.  Because I'm blessed to be a data junkie :-) I kept very
righteous records from February thru mid October when I just lost
the enthusiasm for record keeping.  I gradually worked up to about
2200 kcal per day by Sept all the while losing weight till about
August when I stabilized in the mid 190s.  This suggests the 
published data I've seen of about 11 kcal/lb is required for
sedentary males to maintain body weight.

I eat a lot more rice (Jasmine rice is my favorite) and stir fried
vegetables than I used to.  I drink a lot of well water.  My diastolic
BP has dropped from the mid 90s to the low to mid 80s.

I tried to limit weight loss to a max of about 1% of my current
body weight per week so that the change would not be too hard on
my system.  I only violated that a couple of weeks where I lost 3
or 4 lbs.  Most weeks I lost -1 to +2 lbs.

The bad news for me is that my HDL trend is steadily down in this past
year.  Further if two data points of triglycerides constitutes a
trend (which it doesn't) I'm on the rise there too.  February 93
data will be most interesting.

I was thinking that if trigly has indeed stabilized at the top of
the normal range, I might try a red wine experimental trial of
three months to raise the HDL and hope it doesn't pump up the
trygly.  ANy suggestions ?

Of course, I need to exercise more.  I do a lot of walking in the
very large plant that I work in.


Bobby - akgua!rjb