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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Do we really need the monarchy?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 19:59:35 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

nick@sunburn.uwaterloo.ca (Nick Fitzpatrick) writes:

- In article <1gai92INNc7c@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> martin.baines@uk.sun.com wri
- >In article 1818102893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA, 2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA (Andy) w
- >>The latest twist in the royal soap operaprompts the question, do we really
- >>need the monarchy,
- >
- >Personally I'd like to see an elected Presidency with similar powers
- >to the current Monarch, and the heredity members removed from the Lords:
- >basically a system pretty similar to that in the Irish Republic.
- >
- >It would presumably be very simple for Australia, Canada, NZ etc to
- >replace the Govenor Generals with an elected President if they wanted
- >to. Of course if one of them wanted to keep them, I am sure the Royal
- >Family would be happy to move to (say) South Island NZ.
- >
- I don't know about the others, but it would be a very complicated
- process for Canada to remove the Monarchy, it would require a majority
- vote in the House of Commons, Senate, and ALL 10 provincial legislatures.
- A constitional amendment requiring such unaminity has never before
- been succesful, for everytime it is tried, the provinces insist
- on linking any amendment, to other, often unrelated, claused, such
- as an elected Senate.  Quebec, for example, could probably not
- survive the humility of agreeing to ANY change to the Constition, without
- obtaining their 5 basic demands (or however many they have now :-)
-
- So perhaps we could keep them, after all they don't cost us much!
-
- Nicholas Fitzpatrick


Dave Shariff Yadallee (B. Sc. (Econ/Math) (U of Alberta 1990) )
 (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
Happy Christmas and Merry New Year to One and All - John Lennon
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones)
Subject: Re: Lamont's wine and PRIVATE EYE
Organization: Vonnegut Tent Rentals, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 14:32:47 GMT

C R Pennell (hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg) wrote:
> Please, what is "the affair ofGummer's pond"?
> 
> Richard Pennell History NUS.

It was Goon Show No. 161, first broadcast Feb 29th 1958.

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||Dave Jones (dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com)|Eastman Kodak Co. Rochester, NY  |
From: eddie@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Eddie Rooney)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: If the Wales' divorce
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:37:14 GMT
Organization: Centre for Speech Technology Research, Edinburgh University

|> >Andy (2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA) wrote:
|> >> It has been argued that if Charles divorces, he would be unable to become   g
|> >Kin
|> >> as he would no longer be qualified to be Head of the Church of England. I am
|> >> not sure of that, todays paper cited the example of King Charles II (I
|> >think)
|> >> in 1698 who as King, divorced his wife and did not need to abdicate.
|> >

How about Henry VIII?  Divorce didn't seem to stop him (but then it was *his* church.....)
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From: fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: The story of the Scottish flag
Date: 14 Dec 1992 22:59:09 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

In article <1992Dec14.161156.27972@news.clarkson.edu> walker@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Graham Walker, 227 West Old Main,268-3847,) writes:
>From article <1gdrn0INNnu9@network.ucsd.edu>, by fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister):
>> 
>> It is rather hard to believe that the Stuarts ceased being kings of
>> Scotland when they became Kings of England.
>> 
>But they were not kings of England, they were kings of the UK (United
>Kingdom) when the Union of the Crowns Took place in 1603.
>
>														GW
>

A glance at the epistle dedicatory to the Authorised Version would
suggest otherwise. The term 'United Kingdom' did not come into use
until the Act of Union of 1802.

-- 
____________________________________________________________________
Dawn over the dark sea brings on the sun;                      
She leans across the hilltop: see, the light!
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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: An ENGLISH monarch??
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 06:09:46 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

katherim@fraser.sfu.ca (Katherine Merle Mason) writes:

- I have a question.  I have been studying Scottish history for a while,
- and, in Canada at least, this necessarily entails studying a wee bit
- of English history.
-
- My question is simple:  has there ever been an ENGLISH monarch?
-
- The Plantegenets were french.
- The Tudors were Welsh.
- The Stuarts were Scottish
- The Windsors (were) are German.
                ^^^^
  Key word here, after all it was the Windsor who knocked the socks of the
Germans in the previous 2 World Wars.

-
- Any ENGLISH monarchs?
- Even in some other country??
-
- Inquisitively yours,
- Katherine Merle Mason
- Ne Oublie....
-
-

  Doubtful!! I really wonder IF there is such a thing as a PURELY ENGLISH
monarch.

Dave Shariff Yadallee (B. Sc. (Econ/Math) (U of Alberta 1990) )
 (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
Happy Christmas and Merry New Year to One and All - John Lennon
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: Re: An ENGLISH monarch??
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:23:28 GMT

CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CZ94000) writes:
| 1,000,000 years ago, all the ancestors of the Royal Family were
| probably living in Africa.  Does that make the Queen African?

Good movie, that.
-- 
David Brooks					dbrooks@osf.org
Open Software Foundation			uunet!osf.org!dbrooks
Allberall und ewig blauen licht die Fernen!  Ewig... ewig... ewig...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: Re: Robertson's Golly Badges.
Followup-To: soc.culture.british
Reply-To: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:53:36 GMT

hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell) writes:
>COLLINS CONCISE (huh!) DICTIONARY PLUS (london & Glasgow: Collins, 1989) p530
>
>[C19:from a doll in a series of AMerican children's books]
>
>Details please

COLLINS LESS CONCISE BUT STILL LEGIBLE (Heckmondwike and Hawick, 1979)
page DCXXVI:

[C19: from the name of a doll character in children's books by the
Americans Bertha Upton (died 1912), writer, and Florence Upton (died 1922),
illustrator]

I wonder if they were related?

Seriously, why is anyone surprised, or expecting anyone else to be
surprised, that there was unremarked racism in the 19th Century?
-- 
David Brooks					dbrooks@osf.org
Open Software Foundation			uunet!osf.org!dbrooks
Allberall und ewig blauen licht die Fernen!  Ewig... ewig... ewig...
From: apm@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Andrew Merritt)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:00:43 GMT
Subject: London Underground sell-off?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, CCSY Messaging Centre, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british

Has anyone else heard rumours about the London Underground system being
privatised in the new year?  Apparently the lines will be sold separately;
I'm not sure if the stations are to be sold as a separate package (i.e. I'm
not sure how they plan to manage the stations that are interchanges between
different lines).

Andrew
From: CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CZ94000)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: soc.culture.british FAQ [was Re: Time to elect a monarch?]
Date: 13 Dec 92 21:22:18 GMT
Organization: McGill University

In article <1992Dec12.151738.18297@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry) writes:
>In article <1992Dec12.004126.23419@netcom.com> sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller) writes:
>>In article <kNHkVB1w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
>>>With the recent in the Crown, one should speak on this situation.
>>>                              ^^^
>>>One must note that despite my Centrist politics, I am an avowed Monarchist.
>>>But with the recent separation of the Prince and Princess of Wales, this throws
>>>the current system in doubt and one should wonder if the Magestrate should be
>                                  ^^^
>>>elected by Her/Her Royal Majesty's subject.
>
>>When the FAQ is compiled, the above post should be used in the
>>glossary under the entry "Yadallean".  After some study, I believe
>>it to be a definitive example of that dialect.
>
>Notice also the use of "one" for "I", a habit only usually observed in
>the royals themselves.  Do you think Dave wants to be the next King?
>
"Dave Shariff Yadallee" is a pseudonym used by the Prince of Wales
when posting to USENET.

Tom Box
CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA
From: disraeli@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jamie Lara Bronstein)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: More Silly Songs-Colonel Bogey
Date: 20 Dec 92 20:45:56 GMT
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA

In article <1gu9gdINNdg3@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> banarji@unixg.ubc.ca (Ajai Banarji) writes:
>		More Silly Songs-Colonel Bogey
>>
>Hitler, he had but one big ball
>Rommel, he had three but small
>Himmler, had something similar
>and Goebbels had NONE AT ALL!
>
I had thought the second line was "The other is in the Albert Hall..."

Jamie Bronstein
History Dept.
Stanford University
disraeli@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: chris@austin.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: Green cards
Originator: chris@ng.austin.ibm.com
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:20:07 GMT
Organization: IBM Austin



> 
> Incidentally, my "green card", or alien registration booklet, in England 
> was green on the outside with white pages inside.  Are they all like 
> that?
>
> Yes, I used to have one of those.


Chris
 



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From: Mark Platt <MPLATT@MEDUSA.UNM.EDU>
Subject: Re: Banned: ``Happy Holidays'' [sic]
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 18:53:03 GMT
Organization: Univ. of New Mexico
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X-Xxdate: Wed, 16 Dec 92 18:52:54 GMT

In article <128030003@otter.hpl.hp.com> Andrew Farmer,
arf@otter.hpl.hp.com writes:
>	Bah! Humbug!

good old Tim Oldham, yes tim it is Xmas in England one good reason that
england has a way of making all other religions feel worthless, after 6
years of being beaten up as a "YID" at a fairly good grammer school I can
safely say that the attitude its Xmas I'm the majority and stuff it you
lot is fairly typical of what I encountered from my school "chums" it may
be PC to say happy holidays but it does acknowledge that there are some
others in the world carry on with your merry Xmas though it makes me
remmeber my school days
From: dvp@oasis.icl.co.uk (Geezer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Banned: ``Happy Holidays'' [sic]
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:36:34 GMT
Organization: The Mountains of Madness
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

MPLATT@MEDUSA.UNM.EDU (Mark Platt) writes:
> In article <128030003@otter.hpl.hp.com> Andrew Farmer,
> arf@otter.hpl.hp.com writes:
> >	Bah! Humbug!
> 
> good old Tim Oldham, yes tim it is Xmas in England one good reason that
> england has a way of making all other religions feel worthless, after 6
> years of being beaten up as a "YID" at a fairly good grammer school I can
> safely say that the attitude its Xmas I'm the majority and stuff it you
> lot is fairly typical of what I encountered from my school "chums" it may
> be PC to say happy holidays but it does acknowledge that there are some
> others in the world carry on with your merry Xmas though it makes me
> remmeber my school days

I suppose saying "Oh Christ!" to the above is politically incorrect
too?

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From: walker@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Graham Walker, 227 West Old Main,268-3847,)
Subject: Re: Dates 1603, 1688, and 1707
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:21:35 GMT

From article <katherim.724369618@sfu.ca>, by katherim@fraser.sfu.ca (Katherine Merle Mason):
> walker@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Graham Walker, 227 West Old Main,268-3847,) writes:
> 
>>From article <1gdrn0INNnu9@network.ucsd.edu>, by fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister):
>>> 
>>> It is rather hard to believe that the Stuarts ceased being kings of
>>> Scotland when they became Kings of England.
>>> 
>>But they were not kings of England, they were kings of the UK (United
>>Kingdom) when the Union of the Crowns Took place in 1603.
> 
>>														GW
> 
> I would be remiss in my duties to my ancestors and also to my fellow
> Scottish Canadians if I failed to point out the view, espoused by many,
> that this union became null and void in 1688 upon the accession of 
> William and Mary.
> 
> Katherine Merle Mason
> Ne Oublie....
>  

The problems associated with the dates 1688, 1707, 1715, and 1745, have
always caused mixed emotions in Scotland. Some may view 1688 as being a
black day for Scotland because the "ligitimate" heir to the throne was
replaced by parliment with a more acceptable monarch. However, from the
"republican" point of view (which I would suggest only came into being
after 1789) this date marks the date when power was transfered from one
person (the king or queen) to parliment (a first step in giving power to
the populace (sp?) at large). 1688, 1715, and 1745 also caused problems for
protestant scots, at that time, in that they wished to support "scotland" but
equally did not want a catholic monarch. As for 1707,  many people (scots)
regard this also as a betrayal (sp?), with the rich selling "scotlands
birthright."

														GW
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: Re: More silly songs.
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:27:05 GMT

I really hoped I was going to be able to resist this.  Yes, I know, so
did you.

	We three Kings of Orient are
	One in a taxi, one in a car
	One on a scooter, tooting his hooter,
	Following Ringo Starr.

There; I'm glad that's over.

BTW (not to do with this subject), did I just see Fido, or was I
dreaming?
-- 
David Brooks					dbrooks@osf.org
Open Software Foundation			uunet!osf.org!dbrooks
Allberall und ewig blauen licht die Fernen!  Ewig... ewig... ewig...
From: esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Tell me about crackers
Date: 17 Dec 1992 01:27:20 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


If anyone in the US is interested in purchasing crackers they are
available from Lands' End at 

Lands' End Direct Merchants
Lands' End Inc.
1 Lands' End Lane
Dodgeville, WI  53595-0001

Telephone:  1-800-356-4444

They are $12.50 for 12.

I understand they are also available from Williams-Sonoma but I
don't have an address although there is a store near me but it
isn't a catalog outlet.  The address of that store is

Williams-Sonoma
La Place Shopping Mall
Beachwood, OH  44120

I also have several recipes for plum puddings both from British
cookbooks as well as US.  If anyone is interested, I'll be happy
to e-mail the recipe(s) to them.

--
From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Anglepoise Lamps
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:08:55 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.


>mad5c@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Michael DeLong) writes:

>: Would some kind soul please tell me what an anglepoise lamp is?
>: Is 'Anglepoise' perhaps a trade name?

What's been annoying me lately is not being able to remember the American
name for them. There's a rather famous short animation film which, I believe,
was the first fully computer generated solid animation ever.
It's called "Son of XXXXXX", where XXXXX is the name of an anglepoise lamp.
Consisted of two lamps, a big one, and its smaller offspring. The big one is
watching the little one playing with a football. The big one ends up squishing
the ball.

Maybe this'll get the name if someone can remember the film title.

Dave
--
From: wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Student's Questions
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:48:28 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1992Dec7.130008.3499@dcs.qmw.ac.uk>, mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:
> As for quality of teaching, as a colleague of mine pointed
> out on an internal bulletin board today, since we get students
> with fairly low A-level scores, and quite a few coming in
> through BTEC, while Oxford get nearly all straight As, but at
> the end of the day we turn out students whose quality is agreed
> by external examiners to be as good as Oxford's, our teaching
> must be far superior to Oxford's in terms of "value added".

In (some) defence of Oxford, I should point out that Oxford undergraduate
computer scientists are actually Maths and Computation or Engineering and
Computer Science undergraduates. In my experience of teaching the maths & comp.
people, they have rather more than 50% maths to do, and their computation is
entirely theoretical not practical. A number of them are not mathematicians and
have problems with that side of it.
-- 

Stephen Wilcox             |   For Sale: Posts in British Government. Suit
wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk    |   outgoing American. Highest bids accepted.
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From: fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: The dates 1603, 1688, and 1707.
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:13:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: network.1gloqjINNsu0
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

In article <1992Dec15.152415.29166@news.clarkson.edu> walker@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Graham Walker, 227 West Old Main,268-3847,) writes:
>>>> 
>>>> It is rather hard to believe that the Stuarts ceased being kings of
>>>> Scotland when they became Kings of England.
>>>> 
>>>But they were not kings of England, they were kings of the UK (United
>>>Kingdom) when the Union of the Crowns Took place in 1603.
>>>
>>>														GW
>>>
>> 
>> A glance at the epistle dedicatory to the Authorised Version would
>> suggest otherwise. The term 'United Kingdom' did not come into use
>> until the Act of Union of 1802.
>> 
>
>OK, I agree. However, my point was that a single monarch "ruled" a united
>kingdom, and was both the king of england and scotland.
>
>														GW
But it wasn't a united kingdom, it was a union of two separate
kingdoms. The kingdoms weren't united until the Act of Union of
1707 (excepting the period of the Commonwealth and Protectorate,
when they were a unified republic.).

-- 
____________________________________________________________________
Dawn over the dark sea brings on the sun;                      
She leans across the hilltop: see, the light!
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From: ulick@bernini.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford)
Subject: Re: The story of the Scottish flag
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:43:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.172301.14108@infodev.cam.ac.uk> ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant) writes:
>
>Pardon? Surely the son of the person who was James I of England and
>James VI of Scotland would have either been Charles I of England and
>Charles I of Scotland, i.e. Charles I of the UK?  Otherwise, who _was_
>Scotland ruled by during the reign of Charles I?
>
>The point about Elizabeth I was that during her reign, Scotland was
>ruled by someone completely different.  No wonder they want to bring
>back dates of kings and queens into the school curriculum...

Numbering is all relative.  Why was Duke of Windsor Edward the Eighth?
Many Anglo-Saxon kings including St. Ed, had that name, but they were
all before a more descriptive name than a mere Roman numeral.  Was DofW
the second Edward in Scotland, or were there Scottish Edward kings
prior 1601?  On the subject of Scottish kings, were thay all called
James or Malcolm (apart from Bob the Spider guy, of course).


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+    born in the holy land of Indiana,      + Dept of Chemical Engineering, +
+ in the mystical hills east of Fort Wayne'.+ Notre Dame, IN 46556          +
+      B'fhearr liom bheith ag eitilt.      +    ulick@bach.helios.nd.edu   +
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From: jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: The Scottish National Anthem
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:20:12 GMT
	<1992Dec8.120815.27429@ccsun.strath.ac.uk>
	<JIM.92Dec11120335@hunter.cs.strath.ac.uk>
	<Bz3IA1.2Ey@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> <s0319198.23.0@let.rug.nl>
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.
In-reply-to: s0319198@let.rug.nl's message of 11 Dec 92 13:46:37 GMT

In article <s0319198.23.0@let.rug.nl> s0319198@let.rug.nl (E.B. Meijerink) writes:

   Why is there no mentioning of 'Scotland the Brave'?

Probably because this is even more of a National Embarrassment than
"Flower of Scotland". StB was written for the music hall and is the
archetypal hearther-bagpipes-and-tartan-kitsch, so beloved of Scottish
entertainers(?) like Andy Stewart and Harry Lauder.

I doubt if anyone in Scotland knows the words to it (thank God).

		Jim
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller)
Subject: Re: Frist you must define Yadalleeism and then context Yadallean
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:54:12 GMT

In article <38PTVB4w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
>With partial overtone of John CLeese sounding like Basil Fawlty I wrote:
>
>All right you parrot-feathered blokes, this should be part of the Official
>Oxford Dictionary:
>
>Yadalleeism :  A centrist doctrine based on pro-monarchism, anti-republicanism
>               which believe that every individual in society is important
>               and that absolute dictatorship must be utterly purge; anti-cor-
>               ruptonist; pro-Christian Evangelistic Moralist.


Beautiful - you've written the definition of Yadalleeism in
Yadalleean.  Just like C, perl, and so on.  Fitting and proper.

>
>Do sit down and reconsider the word Yadallean.

I have, and now think that we should have left the 'ee' in at the
end (as above).

>
>Christmas Cheers Mate,
>

Ditto, dude.  And have a Gnarly New Year!


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