HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: west@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Bruce West)
Subject: Re: **** A1200 Info **** (200+ lines) [to idiots who bash HAM]
Organization: University of North Texas, Denton
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 05:18:03 GMT

   I've heard many stupid thing ranging from HAM is useless to HAM is god.
Some like to get down the hardware level, measure color changese/s, etc etc.

Look, it's very simple.

  HAM, and HAM8, is a tricky way of getting some *awesome* looking pictures.
That's it, very simple.  Now, if you are talking about video animation and
multimedia -- HAM is a viable and extremely useful tool.  You can put your
pics to tape at 30 fps and overlay and do all that great Amiga stuff.
You can get some awesome still pics and nice anims for you presentations.
  If you are talking about scientific usage and data study, well then I
would'nt use it.  It's meant to give the best *looking* picture, not a true
and exact representation of what you are studying.  But, then again, if I
had a contract for some serious scientific study I would hope I could
afford a 24 bit card ;)

   So, please stop all your moronic bickering about HAM.  If you use your 
Amiga as an artist, for multimedia/presentations, for animation, demos
creation. etc. -- then HAM8 is the answer to your prayers.  If you are a
game programmer it is an awesome improvement (the enhanced bandwith of the
AGA chips).  If you are a scientist or a programmer, be a man and buy a
damn card.  Stop wasting all your name bickering and go find a new use for
the Amiga's great potential.

CIao...



ps: Don't respond by mail, it all gets forwarded.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: seifert@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael S. Seifert)
Subject: Asteroid Ideas
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 01:51:36 GMT

Ive just finished an open-ended asteroids clone, but find that I still have
a lot of cpu time left over, so I was trying to think of things to add....
Does anyone remember some of the old vector arcade games?  There was one
where two people could play at once that had some nice extra features, but
I dont remember what they were...  
Right now, the program has:
One or two player option (simultaneously)
Player shields (dont know if I like this, though... may be an option instead of
hyperspace...)
Up to six enemy ships at once, with varying abilities (still havent created all
the necessary graphics to distiguish between them, though...)
Seeking weapons (this may be deleted also, it was sort of a 'photon' copy, but
I dont want to have too many input functions since a player may want to use the
joystick...)

I still have to add the sound, something I really dont want to program....
and I have to come up with more ship graphics (32 rotations is a pain, so
I may just make them saucers initially....)

Im still considering adding more colors, but I really liked the old black
and white vector games...

If anyone has any ideas, let me hear them, or-- send me a good sound routine
with various explosions and such (sure)....   Im hoping to get this thing
out before christmas to show my nephew (his vectrex(?) system broke...)

mike seifert, spewer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: gerry@pizzabox.dialogic.com (Gerry Lachac)
Subject: Re: MorphPlus Used On Quantum Leap
Organization: Dialogic Corporation
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 15:40:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.114925.7372@dcs.warwick.ac.uk> mjackson@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Mark Jackson) writes:
>In article <69311@cup.portal.com> pk-asdg@cup.portal.com (Perry S Kivolowitz) writes:
>>
>>The episode of Quantum Leap, which aired last night (November 10)
>>contained morph effects created using ASDG's MorphPlus and transferred
>>back to digital video using ASDG's Abekas driver.
>>
>I've no idea how many episodes we are behind, here in the UK. Any chance of 
>someone telling me the story line behind this episode, so that I can look out
>for it, if and when it arrives over here !?!

This will be the "Evil Leaper" episode, when Sam leaps into Jimmy, a
retarded man for the second time.  The morph segment goes by quick,
but it is impressive.  


-gerry
From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:34:13 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:

>White, conservative, atheist from the South you may be, BUT:

>Huh?  This started out about using the computer for engineering.
>I think it would be reasonable to assume that the PC would be better than an
>Amiga in the case.

I thought the original poster said his friend is an EE major, but he never
mentioned that his friend will be using her computer to do anything in 
particular.  

True, the Amiga lacks a lot of professional software which IBMs and Macs have.
However, it doesn't necessarily mean that if someone wants to do some
professional stuff, they will have to confine themselves with IBMs.

IMHO, the original poster should ask his friend what exactly does she want
to do.  Let her play with a high-end Amiga and a high-end IBM, and let her
make her own decisions.  

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin
e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu
From: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Games and the C64...
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:20:21 GMT
Reply-To: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Richardson, TX
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

Gerald (Jerry) KUCH writes:
>
>So sad that Broderbund swallowed Synapse alive and fucked them up royally.
>How many generations of "Where the Fuck is Carmen Sandiego?" are we going to
>see....  

I've always heard that it was Atari that screwed Synapse.  Synapse had
that line of productivity software:  SynCalc, SynTrend, etc.  Atari Inc.
had supposedly cut a deal with Synapse to distribute these products if
Synapse would add a bunch of features, etc.  When Jack Tramiel took over
Atari in 1984, he cancelled the deal and left Synapse in bad position.

>BTW, Bill Williams of Alley Cat and Necromancer fame has done two Amiga games.
>Mind Walker (weird old classic... apparently still works under new versions of
>the OS... unfortunately wound up being sold by Commodore) and Pioneer Plague,
>the scrolling HAM action game that came out in late 1988.  I have no idea 
>where William Mataga (of Shamus) and Steve Hales (of Fort Apocalypse) are 
>today.... anybody got any ideas?  And what about Steve Coleman's Pharaoh's
>Curse...?

I've noticed that many game designers of the "one man and his idea"
era have gone crazy (anyone who's ever programmed a commercial
quality game in its _entirety_ can probably relate to this).  I've
heard of such people giving up computers entirely and becoming
apple farmers, etc.

I'd be interested in hearing what Bill Williams is up to.

--
James Hague   
exuhag@exu.ericsson.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: matt@gbrmpa.gov.au (Matt Crowd)
Subject: Re: Oh my God!  Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Organization: Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:14:07 GMT

In article <10667547.339.721630444@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au> 10667547@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (JIMMY FANG) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.162154.6253@gw.wmich.edu> x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>
>In Australia, the difference is about A$100.  Perhaps the IBM removable 
>drive is some cheapo-no-name-brand-with-30-second-warranty and the Amiga 
>version is by Maxtor or Quantum or Sysquest? 

SyQuests are crap, I know of three people who've had at least 3 drive
replacements in just a couple of years....

Case 1. SyQuest turns into "Power Sander" and screws platter and head.

Case 2. SyQuest turns into "Hunger Mode" and chmomps the platter with
        the head.

Case 3. SyQuest decides "Holiday in Bali" and just refuses to operate
	again.


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From: seifert@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael S. Seifert)
Subject: Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 19:36:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.120235.6244@gw.wmich.edu> x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>In article <1944@vall.dsv.su.se>, matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg) writes:
>> David Stuart Griffiths (griffita@fraser.sfu.ca) wrote:
>> 
>> : I agree, in this SPECIFIC case, the Amiga WOULD be a mistake.
>> 
>> If you're not interested in computers buy a PC. Do I need to explain my
>> point?
>> 
>
>	That's crazy.  I am very interested in computers, I simply need
>my computer to do more than the Amiga cn offer.  And believe it or not,
>a PC can be equipped to do more for me than an Amiga could ever.
>
>
>> --
>> =========================================================
>> =  Regards  =  email:              =  1280x512x256000+  = 
>> =  Mattias  =  matt-dah@dsv.su.se  =  I love it.        =
>> =========================================================
>> =  The only way to get improved software for the Amiga  =
>> =  is *buying* the existing ones. Do you realize that?  = 
>> =========================================================

This .sig is wrong, especially when considering using the amiga in 
engineering fields...  Since Ive been using my amiga to do all of my
engineering work, I know what an uphill struggle it can be...  

The only way to get improved engineering software for the amiga is to either
write it, or recompile it from source.  Most of my professors have been
reasonably understanding and have allowed me to compile their engineering
programs for my own use...  Then I give them the executable and tell them
to keep it for later amiga users (im sure they do, yeah)...

Either way, the amiga is no engineering computer for the novice....

mike seifert, spewer

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: bernie@metapro.DIALix.oz.au (Bernd Felsche)
Subject: Re: PC, Redneck President, and other bad news. (was Re: Amiga 1200)
Organization: MetaPro Systems, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 01:47:35 GMT

In <36732@cbmvax.commodore.com> daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:

>Get a clue.  If you're comparing IQs, the Bush/Quayle administration set an all
>time low (its only close competition was the Reagan/Bush administration).  I'm
>proud to have helped to elect a President and Vice President with at least above
>average intelligence (you don't get to be a Rhodes Scholar by being a "stupid
>hillbilly").  

A Rhodes Scholar can turn out to be an insensitive, selfish
arsehole!

We had one as Prime Minister is Australia for a while, much
too long IMHO. He's (in)famous for promising things like:
"No child in Australia will live in poverty in 1990" prior
to his government being elected in `88. Guess what?

I wish you better luck with your ars^H^H^H^H Rhodes Scholar.

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From: kevinm@ocf.berkeley.edu (Kevin Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Amiga-1200 is not for me...
Date: 5 Nov 1992 10:45:55 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: tornado.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov5.131851.90515@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au> bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
>birdie told me that C= would have a range of 4 Amigas. Well, we now
>have 4 Amigas, but I expect the 3000 to be replaced by an AGA machine.

Amiga 600, 1200, 2000, 3000, 4000.  That sounds like five already.  Commodore
announced that the 1200 was not a replacement for the 600 or 2000, so what 
gives?

Kevin
kevinm@ocf.berkeley.edu
From: dnavas@oracle.uucp (David Navas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Floppy size in 1200?
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:18:25 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Nov9.233715.19776@seas.gwu.edu> gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington) writes:
>Wait--I almost missed that.  Are you saying that the A1200 does not even
>have a clock battery?  I know this is a low end machine, but the rest of
>the specs seem pretty good.

I wouldn't be in a position to know.  Well, actually I would, but I didn't
look at my spec-sheet -- that way I can't be accused of giving any secrets
away :)  It may not even be that specific anywho, and I wouldn't know where to
begin looking for it either -- Karen keeps "organizing" my stuff for me:).
It's Cmdre marketing that decides, finally, what options to sell standard in
the machine (assuming those options exist), and the machine hasn't been
announced for the US market yet, so we'll have to wait for final spec.

This is the rumour I've been hearing round these parts.  If true, it's a lame
move.

Anyone in Europe have one handy to check the reality of this rumour?
David C. Navas						dnavas@oracle.com
Working for, but not speaking on behalf of, Oracle Corp.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Re: Amiga clone
Keywords: n
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:04:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.224549.27812@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> rittle@supra.comm.mot.com (Loren James Rittle) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.074535.5129@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp
>           (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>> I wonder how Amiga users would feel if people were to start cloning
>> the A4000.
>
>Humm, is this a trick question?
>
>Rejoice!  It would mean that, like the PC, the Amiga had made it.  Do
>you really think that if IBM's legal dept. had been on the ball that
>we would be stuck with 100 million braindamaged PCs today?

No, we'd be up to our armpits in Macs. Ugh.

>Loren J. Rittle (rittle@comm.mot.com)
-- 
Dan Stephenson                                                 das9674@usl.edu  
"There once was a Lady from Hyde/who ate some bad apples and died/but while we
lamented/the apples fermented/making cider inside her inside!" 
                        -Member of the Court, Texas Renaissance Festival
From: James_Coulter@panam.wimsey.bc.ca (James Coulter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: **** A1200 Info **** (200+ lines)
Distribution: world
Date: 7 Nov 92 23:18:35 PST
Organization: Commodore Computer Club / PaNorAmA

In a message dated Fri  6 Nov 92  0:04, Lindblad@klaava.helsinki.fi (jarkko
wrote:

 L> At least two. There was an old game that uses it (was it Pioner
 L> Plague), and then there is this new golf-game of which name I don't
 L> remember.

Links.

 L> Actually 640x400 is rarely used - I only know one "action" game that
 L> uses it and it is a flight simulator (gives 25 Hz with 8 colors in
 L> that resolution), instead most games that use higher resolution than
 L> 320*200 use 640*200. Or some parts of the screen may be in 320*200,
 L> others in 640*200 (and this waits 0% CPU time thank's to copper). Or
 L> some games may even have more different resolution-color-combinations
 L> at the same time in screen.

Fighter Duel Pro(flight sim) uses 640x400x16(looks like overscan too). 
Runs at 24 frames/second or 28 with true fast ram.  Should be really nice
on an AGA machine.

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From: root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:   Clinton/Gore (Was: A4000 graphics)
Distribution: world
Date: 9 Nov 92 12:45:43 EST
Organization: Rick's Amiga

In article <BxFpov.361@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>In article <root.02pd@rkamiga.UUCP> root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>>Iowa, Idaho, Montana, and North Dakota allocated $0.
>
>   WOW!  The Iowa government has hope after all!  

Consider this.  You have an operation in Iowa, and during a blood transfusion
you contract the HIV virus.  You're on your own.  Insurance policies don't
necessarily cover the full cost of the treatment.  In many cases they won't
pay for treatment until AIDS symptoms show up.

Magic Johnson may look healthy as a horse, but he is already taking medication
that costs $400-500 per month in hopes of staving off the emergence of full
blown AIDS.  He is also very rich.  Are you?

--
Rick Kelly		Rick's Amiga		Framingham, Mass.

		think!unixland!rmkhome!rkamiga!root
From: schumacher-jeffrey@cs.yale.edu (Jeffrey Schumacher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Motorola is making their own line (And C= should get a clue)
Date: 11 Nov 1992 11:22:57 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: lion.zoo.cs.yale.edu

In article <1992Nov11.061342.14678@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> nwickham@nyx.UUCP (Neal Wickham) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov9.155816.26971@clipper.ingr.com> kontos@clipper.ingr.com (Thorne Kontos) writes:
>>>
>>>     I saw two advertisements from Motorola with them
>>>advertising a computer line. Does anyone have more information
>
>[...]   
>
>I saw those ads and I think they used the words "new" and "change" several
>times indicating that they want to take advanatage of the election of Bill
>Clinton.  The ads I saw were before the election but Clinton was well ahead
>in the polls.  I think with this big societal change, marketers see a big
>chance in establishing new products as standards.  People are going to be
>looking at new products as viable alternatives to the old standards as this
>new younger power-stucture in America develops.  I think we will see many
>new brand-names become household words in the next couple of years.  People
>simply want change and will identify older brand-names with the old 
>over-thrown (sp?) authorities and power-stucture.  IMHO, C= should dump
>a lot of money into trying to identify itself and Amiga with this new
>and younger power-structure. ...sort of identify Amiga with younger more
>energetic people.  I know they are primarily interested in the game/home
>market but multimedia certainly has future markets in business and 
>education.
>
Here at Yale it seems as if the Macintosh is already identified with
"this new and younger power-structure."  A great majority of the Yale
student population is quite liberal (with polls indicating about
70-80% support for Clinton before the election), and the Mac seems to
be "the computer of choice" (no pun intended :-).  Say, "computer,"
and most Yale students will probably think "Macintosh."  If anything,
I think this support for the Mac indicates, at least among Yalies, the
end of IBM-compatible dominance.  If the situation at Yale is similar
to that at other universities, Commodore had better spend a lot of
money in reaching those who are now in college, because Apple already
has.

        ///       Jeffrey P. Schumacher        \\    //
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AMIGA ///     Yale University, Class of 1996     \\//
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: runehy@dhhalden.no (RUNE HYLDMO)
Subject: Re:The falcon's super.. NEW!
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:22:48 GMT

Many of you Amiga freaks are telling the Falconers things like these...

I don t need a DSP anyway, but i anyone does I can just plug in an add-on 
board!!!

I don t need a FPU, but if anyone does, one can just plug one in..

I don t need LAN, but if someone  does they can just plug a card on in..

I don t need SCSI II, but if someone does, they can just plug a card..

I don t need a HD-floppy, but if someone does they can just get one..
(swap, swap, swap, swap, swap, swap, swap if you haven t got a harddrive)

And I guess all these things are for free or are they????

They will sure have a hard time changing all those extra add-on cards, maybe 
they should hire a person to do it for them, so they have some time left to 
use their machine. At least they seem to have enough money to hire someone 
since they can afford all those add-on boards!!!

Rune H.
From: Bolt@cup.portal.com (Eric J Rainbolt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Oh my God!  Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Date: Sun,  8 Nov 92 17:25:45 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Dear Fellow Amigan,

I heard some frightful news from a friend of mine:

heidi@zeus.c-engr2.siu.edu

Over the weekend, she placed an order for an IBM clone.  Yuck!!!!!
Aaaaaaaaaargggggg.   Puke!!!!!!!!  Barf City!!!!!!!
(Do you know what I mean).

She doesn't know much at all about computers, all she know is that
she feels she should have one because she is in Electrical Engineering.

I told her I was mad at myself for not showing off the power of the Amiga.

I truly believe my A500 (designed in 1985 and running at 7.16 Mhz), totally
blows away IBM pieces of shit running at 33Mhz.  {All my classmates seem
to have IBM clones of some sort, and they do nothing but complain and send
their motherboards in for new ones all the time;  and they also suffer
from an inferiority complexes when I show off my Amiga}.

I like Heidi, so I want her to be happy, and I feel it would be best
if she cancelled her order and instead purchased an Amiga.

You duty is to write her reasons why she would be better off and much
happier with an Amiga computer.  She is buying an IBM because everybody
else has one.  (Boy there are alot of stupid people who think they really
know something.)

i.e  "Hey, I know MS-DOS", one might say....

     "Yeah, and I know how to tie my shoe, so what?" I usually reply. 

We gotta be arrogant, after all we did make the more intelligent decision
before; it's our right.  Please stop her from supporting crap
engineering, and let her give the profit to the makers of the Amiga.

EJR
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: kjelli@stud.cs.uit.no (Kjell Irgens)
Subject: Re: Oh my God!  Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:22:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.220520.6234@gw.wmich.edu> x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>	I used to have an Amiga and when I went to a PC I vowed to
>make sure it did mroe than my Amiga did and it does.  My PC blows
>away any Amiga I have ever seen in terms of graphics, sound, animation
                                                       ^^^^^  ^^^^^^^^^

This is _bullshit_, and that makes your whole article luck silly.....
comp.sys.amiga.advocacy don't need this kinda crap!

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