HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: wohler@sapwdf.UUCP (Bill Wohler)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: data-bits default
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:49:15 GMT
Reply-To: Bill Wohler <wohler@sap-ag.de>
Organization: SAP AG, Walldorf, Germany

mskuhn@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Markus Kuhn) writes:
>My long term wish would be: Support MIME (RFC 1341) in the nn pager.

  i agree.

  mh now supports mime, so it could be used as an example.

Bill Wohler <wohler@sap-ag.de> <sapwdf!wohler>
Heidelberg Red Barons Ultimate Frisbee Team
From: wohler@sapwdf.UUCP (Bill Wohler)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: Unsubscribing to Classes of Newsgroups
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:04:57 GMT
Reply-To: Bill Wohler <wohler@sap-ag.de>
Organization: SAP AG, Walldorf, Germany

eklund@taipaani.cc.lut.fi (Jarkko Eklund) writes:
>buc@world.std.com (Elliott C Buchholz) writes:
>>*Whole classes of newsgroups can be easily unsubscribed
>> permanently, e.g. talk.all and all.politics

>>Can anyone tell me how to accomplish this? I would greatly appreciate it.

>Edit your newsrc like this:
>options -n !newsgroup classes you don't wanna see

  no, this is for rn.

  see the section on the Presentation Sequence within the Init File
  section in the man page. 

  i believe for the above example, you would add:

	!talk.
	!.politics

  to your presentation sequence.  (a presentation sequence is found in
  a file called "init" in a directory called .nn in your home
  directory.  it begins with the word "sequence" and 
  and must appear last in the file.)

Bill Wohler <wohler@sap-ag.de> <sapwdf!wohler>
Heidelberg Red Barons Ultimate Frisbee Team
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: buc@world.std.com (Elliott C Buchholz)
Subject: Unsubscribing to Classes of Newsgroups
Summary: Question about nn feature
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:17:23 GMT

I am a new user of nn (just switched over after 7-8 years of rn) and am VERY
impressed! I do have one question a bout a feature.

In reading the FAQ list, I see mentioned a feature that boasts:

*Whole classes of newsgroups can be easily unsubscribed
 permanently, e.g. talk.all and all.politics

Can anyone tell me how to accomplish this? I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks!

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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: eric@medusa.dseg.ti.com (eric adams)
Subject: Re: Help! nnmaster difficulties on HP720 HP
Reply-To: Eric.Adams@dseg.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:49:39 GMT

I am having the same problem as above with my Sun 4, I tried the proposed fix, changing
the permissions on the file but had no further suceess.

thanks in advance
Eric

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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: mtpins@icaen.uiowa.edu (Michael T Pins)
Subject: Re: Q: Location of nn src. for HP730?
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:08:34 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Keywords: HP, source, site, HPUX

wcl@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Wayne Long) writes:

>Will the standard source package compile 
>without problems on an HP730?  (HPUX)

It might, then again it might not....
It depends on the particular variant of HP_UX you're running.

>Are there special patches involved?

There is a patch on grind.isca.uiowa.edu called "local.patch" that
makes nn more HP-UX friendly.  It also speeds up nnmaster under
Domain/OS by a large degree.

>My experience with compiling public domain
>code on the HPs has been dismal.  I'd be
>interested in hearing from anyone how has
>successfully compiled nn on the HP7XX or
>has a good idea of how to do it.

HP makes some of the nicest hardware around, I wish their software was
at the same level.  If only they'd port Domain/OS to the snakes....
I have nn running on a snake, as well as under Domain/OS, here, and other
than the above mentioned patch, everything should install smoothly.

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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Questions on S+ and |
From: arthur@ivory.bgu.ac.il (Arthur Goldstein)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:39:02 GMT
Organization: Ben-Gurion University, Beer Sheva, Israel

A couple of things I'd like to do with nn but do not know how, did not see
them in the FAQ or in man:

1) Can the S+ or S* command be set up so that it does not deselect
articles after it has been exectued from the article selection menu?

2) I want to pipe articles and include the subject.  $G/$N/$L expand
to the group name but not the subject.  I want to do this from the
article selection page and not while reading the article itself and
combined with the S command.

Thanks,
Arthur
From: maf@dtek.chalmers.se (Martin Forssen)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: patch 17+18?
Date: 19 Nov 92 08:51:33 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

dean@coplex.com (Dean Brooks) writes:
>bill@twg.bc.ca (Bill Irwin) writes:
>>I have patch 17 and will mail it to you if you still need it.
>>Both 17 & 18 are now official patches.
>Were they ever posted to this group?  I too need the patches if
>someone would be so kind to tell me where to obtain them.

 All patches as well as a fully patched version of nn can be fetched
 via anonymous ftp from chalmers.se (in the pub/nn directory).

	/MaF

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System administrator at math and dtek at Chalmers univ. of technology 
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: jgraham@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (the End)
Subject: Thought I was posting !
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:00:35 GMT


nn-meisters,

Here's a tricky one for ya.

Once in a while after composing a long agonizing emacs message, I do the 
contlol-X, control-C, only to my horror to see :

Send letter ? (s)

Is there any way to recover from this ? If I am on one of the better computers
(Macintosh, SUN :) its not a big deal to copy and paste into a new 
"f" follow-up message. In the hell that is DOS or UNIX, I would have to retype
the entire message to change it from a "reply through mail" to a "follow-up". 

Thanks much,

Jim
Biology and Chemistry
Indiana University -Bloomington
E-mail only: jgraham@bio.indiana.edu
From: fish@daacdev1.stx.com
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: i just realized that nn is a mail reader too!
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:57:53 GMT
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center

in a way it is - i did nn /usr/mail/fish on my mail spool file
and it presents my mail - i could even cancel (delete) msgs
forward, reply...

i think i'll stick with elm but i thought that was pretty cool

			fish
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From: majcher@acsu.buffalo.edu (Murali)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: selecting groups from junk
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:08:35 GMT
Organization: UB

Hi,

	Is it possible to auto-select certain newsgroups out of the
"junk" group?  That is, is there a way to make nn select the messages
in junk that have "alt.whatever.xxx" in the "newsgroups" field in the
header?  This would make things a _lot_ easier for those of us who
want to read them groups what don't come in here...

	Thanks in advance,

Murali


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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: gerald@torolab4.vnet.ibm.com (Gerald Oskoboiny)
Subject: Limiting the collection of articles to a few hierarchies?
Originator: gerald@gerald
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:23:50 GMT
Reply-To: gerald@torolab4.vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Canada Ltd.

I would like to know how to limit nnmaster's article collection to a
(relatively) small number of hierarchies. I get my feed from an NNTP
server with a very comprehensive list of groups, which is nice. However,
my database is already more than 50 Mb (although "nnadmin s" reports it
to be only 25 Mb), and constantly growing. Is there an easy way to tell
nnmaster to collect articles from (for example) alt., bit., comp., news.,
rec., soc., and talk., and to ignore all other groups entirely?
I tried the following:

	nnmaster -l -r -C alt bit comp news rec soc talk

but it is still adding groups like chile.revistas.informatica and
uk.bcs.announce to my $MASTER/GROUPS file.

Also, there are currently about 2000 groups in my GROUPS file that I'd
rather ignore entirely...is there an easy way to remove them without
editing the file line by line or re-initializing the database?
Thanks in advance,

Gerald
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: stefans@bauv106.bauv.unibw-muenchen.de (Stefan Schwarz)
Subject: Bug in nn6.4pl18 (core dump)
Organization: Universitaet der Bundeswehr Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 08:48:35 GMT

Some time ago i posted a bug in nn, which results in a core dump.
This occurs, after reading an article on the last but one page
and then switching to the last page, which has fewer articles than
the previous read article number.

I could produce a folder which shows exactly this behaviour.

I also could figure out the relevant piece of code and made a small
correction. nn now runs fine, but i could have overlooked something.

Is anybody willing to test the described behaviour or to have a look at
the changed code?

Stefan
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Laboratory for graphical data processing  W-8014 Neubiberg, FRG
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From: pebo@sunatb.UUCP (Peter Bodifee)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: patch 17+18?
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:34:58 GMT
Reply-To: pebo@sunatb.atb.bso.nl
Organization: BSO/Automation Technology Breda B.V., The Netherlands

In <1992Nov18.140715.4998@coplex.com> dean@coplex.com (Dean Brooks) writes:
>Were they ever posted to this group?  I too need the patches if
>someone would be so kind to tell me where to obtain them.

>					Regards.. Dean Brooks

It seems more people have heard about patch 17+18. As far as I remember they
have not been posted. Any volunteers?

Regards, Peter
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From: bill@twg.bc.ca (Bill Irwin)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: patch 17+18?
Date: 17 Nov 92 08:54:20 GMT
Reply-To: bill@twg.bc.ca (Bill Irwin)
Organization: The Westrheim Group, Vancouver, B.C., Canada

datpete@daimi.aau.dk (Peter Andersen) writes:

: I wonder I anyone could tell me where to get patch 17 and 18?

: I *have* read the FAQ, and I see one site having patch 18,
: but no one offering patch 17?

: Also, are patch 17 and 18 *official*? I haven't been reading this
: group for a long time (actually since Kim was the only official
: "patcher").

: Peter Andersen

I have patch 17 and will mail it to you if you still need it.
Both 17 & 18 are now official patches.
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From: bmook1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Barry Mook)
Newsgroups: news.misc
Subject: wanted:  Dutch Newspapers!
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:18:15 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore


Hi everyone,

	I'm a dutch student who's attending swarthmore college for a couple of
years and I must say that I am slightly disappointed at the fact that there
are very few dutch here.  The school library does not subscribe to a dutch
newspaper and I therefore find myself very isolated from my home country. 
Does anyone know a way in which I could come in contact with a dutch
newspaper
distributor here in the states (that way the price would be a little more
attractive)? I live in the Philadelphia area, so, naturally, the closer the
better.

	You can contact me by sending me an e-mail (bmook1@cc.swarthmmore.edu) or
sending me a letter: Barry Mook 96, Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA
19081.  I do look at the network frequently so putting it up on the board
will be fine as well,,,, thanks!

Barry Mook!
Xref: sparky news.misc:1874 news.newusers.questions:4992
From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: news.misc,news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: mailing Xerox
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 12:56:38 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

Every time I mail XEROX, I get back two identical copies...


mathew

Xref: sparky news.misc:1888 news.newusers.questions:5091
From: johnv@acix.DIALix.oz.au (John Verhoeven)
Subject: Re: mailing Xerox
Newsgroups: news.misc,news.newusers.questions
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: 21 Nov 92 07:20:34 WST
Organization: ACix - Private UUCP Node, Cloverdale, Western Australia.

mathew (mathew@mantis.co.uk) wrote:
> Every time I mail XEROX, I get back two identical copies...

What else did you expect :-)

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From: au329@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ronda Hauben)
Newsgroups: news.misc,comp.misc,news.admin.misc,alt.amateur-comp,misc.misc
Subject: Re: How is the Net financed and what does it cost?
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:15:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1edq67INNljh
Reply-To: au329@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ronda Hauben)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker) says:

>limes@ouroborous.eng.sun.com (Greg Limes) writes:
>
>> In article <gmmsTB9w165w@mertwig.UUCP> xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker) wr
>> |   Like telephone?
>> |   I don't want to have to pay more to telnet farther. Thats plain stupid.
>> |   The whole point of the net is a cyberspace where distance is meaningless.
>> 
>> Fine. Figure out what it would have cost if all of your connections were
>> to timbucktu and send the difference to your favorite charity. ;-)
>
>It really shoudn't cost all that much more! Yeah, maybe a milliwatt of 
>energy. But I'm not USING a line, just a couple nanoseconds of time for 
>my packet.
>
>
Neat :)

Not only is the net a very efficient way to communicate -

Something valuable is created via the contributions that the various
  users make.

And we all benefit from each others contributions.

               ronda

>Daniel Max P. Drucker            | #define SLOGAN Hey! Lets port it to COBOL!
>The 14 year old net.comm.genius. | Disclaimer: I don't know COBOL.
> /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\/~\/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ 
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From: DAVID_JOHNSON@cpsnet2.cps.edu
Newsgroups: news.misc
Subject: Test post
Date: 22 Nov 1992 01:51:44 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Since I am unable to post directly, I'm testing thru email.  Pls
disregard.
Xref: sparky news.misc:1876 comp.misc:4339 news.admin.misc:359 alt.amateur-comp:220 misc.misc:3825
From: au329@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ronda Hauben)
Newsgroups: news.misc,comp.misc,news.admin.misc,alt.amateur-comp,misc.misc
Subject: Re: How is the Net financed and what does it cost?
Date: 18 Nov 1992 16:21:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: au329@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ronda Hauben)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, bhoughto@sedona.intel.com (Blair P. Houghton) says:

>In article <34HwTB1w164w@rbyte.proteus.qc.ca> grb@rbyte.proteus.qc.ca (G. Randolph Bickerton) writes:
>>In an earlier response to this overall question someone's signature stated 
>>that "there is no such thing as a free lunch!" .  As for the internet there 
>>is just a lot of "charity".  WE all share the net because some larger 
>>organizations ( academic, corporate, government etc) have the hardware in 
>>place; pay for the major transmission costs and let the little guy 
>>piggyback.
>
>Cooperation, not charity.
>
>You pay your portion of the hard costs of the net, just
>like you pay for the lavatories in your workplace and the
>managers who run your life for you.  Even if you don't have
>to write the check, it comes out of the grand collection of
>the world's resources you are allowed to use before someone
>slaps your wrist and says you're hogging wrt your contribution.
>
>				--Blair
>				  "I want to be anarchy."
>				  -Johnny Lydon
>

But the net is different from lavatories - those who use and contribute
to the net are creating SOCIAL WEALTH.  The "world's largest machine"
that has been created via the interconnection and contributions 
of many computer users around the world is the creation of a new
asset to the world and to the future - (not a using up of something
as the above suggests.)
                           ronda
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Newsgroups: news.misc
From: svdhara@iguana.syr.EDU ()
Subject: local news group with moderator
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 15:56:53 EST



         Adding a local news group



     Local  news group with a moderator has to be added
     to our system.

     We use C News.

     Can somebody give the details please?

     I am new to the job and need all the advice I can possibly
     get.

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My Newsreader can't post so I'm trying via email.
Newsgroups: news.lists,news.announce.newusers,news.answers
From: singh@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: news.announce.conferences
Subject: Call for Papers - CAD/CAM, Robotics, Factories of the Future ...
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:27:42 GMT
Expires: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 08:00:00 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology


                  CALL FOR PAPERS
        9TH INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE ON CAD/CAM,
          ROBOTICS AND FACTORIES OF THE FUTURE

                    18-20 August 1993
                        New Jersey
                      Sponsored by
     International Society for Productivity Enhancement
                       (ISPE), USA

OBJECTIVES: The main objective of this conference is to bring together
researchers and practising engineers from government industries and
academia in the multi-disciplinary aspects of advanced manufacturing
systems utilizing creative engineering, design, artificial intelligence,
robotics, database management, prototyping and computer integrated
manufacturing.

SUBJECTS: Technical areas for the conference include (but are not limited to):

Computer-Aided Engineering: CAD, FEM, Process Planning, NC Programming,
QC Planning, Simulation, Analysis, Computer Graphics.

Computer-Aided-Manufacturing: FMS, Integration of CNC, Machine Vision,
Controls, Materials, Data Management, Automated Packing, Material Handling.

Concurrent Engineering: Design for Manufacturability, Design Theory,
Optimization, Value Engineering, Cost & Productivity, Design Axioms,
Reliability and Safety.

Knowledge Automation: Artificial Intelligence, Expert Systems.

Factories of the Future: Intelligent Warehouse Systems, Cellular systems,
Production Planning and Control, Plant Design, Productivity Enhancement,
Organization, Socioeconomic Issues, Employee Training and Environmental
Issues.

Robotics and Manipulators: Mechanical design, Control, Trajectory Planning,
End Effectors, Sensory Devices, Mobility, Applications, Work Cells,
Standardization.

Emerging Technological Processes: Manufacturing of Ultra Precision
Components, Processing of Advanced Materials, Space Technologies,
Non-Traditional Machining and other miscellaneous topics.

The papers will be reviewed and the manuscripts of selected full length
papers after revision in accordance with the reviewers comments will be
published in a bound book form.

Selected papers from the conference will be published in a special issue
of the International Journal of Systems Automation: Research and Applications
(SARA), the official journal of the International Society for Productivity
Enhancements (ISPE).

Paper Submissions: Authors are invited to submit 3 copies of a minimum of
500 words abstract(s) on the above subjects. An abstract should contain the
title of the paper, full name(s) and addresses of all authors. Deadline
for submission of abstract: December 31, 1992. Send abstract to:

                Dr. Raj S. Sodhi, Director
                Manufacturing Engineering Programs
                New Jersey Institute of Technology
                Newark, New Jersey 07102, U.S.A.
                Telephone: (201) 596-3185
                Fax:       (201) 596-6056
                E-mail:    SODHI@ADMIN1.NJIT.EDU