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From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is "NOT" attractive to women?
Date: 23 Nov 1992 17:46:55 GMT
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In article <722517262.6914@minster.york.ac.uk>, aaron@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
> 
>   (I play bass and guitar so half of my nails tend to be longer, half not
>    which would probably makes me look like a BizzareMutantFromThePlanetZog 
>    did I not bear a passing resemblance to Art Garfunkel)

Too bad.  Art Garfunkel is sort of cute, but he's not nearly so cute as a 
BizzareMutantFromThePlanetZog.

> 	Do any women out there have any comments on the attractiveness
>         or otherwise of Art Garfunkel look alikes? (I need to know).

Hope this helped.

Dawn

Joseph Campbell gave me hope and now I have been saved.
"Folk Song" by Bongwater
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: shannah@netcom.com (Teri Miller)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:22:06 GMT

In article <lh25e4INN5u4@news.bbn.com> kgorman@bbn.com (Karen Gorman) writes:
>In article <7297@news.duke.edu>, diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
>|> If someone is "just trying to be friendly", why not ask me if I
>|> like to have my name shortened, and what I like to have it shortened
>|> to?
>
>But you're forgetting, you are the one with the preference.  IMO, stating
>the rules in the beginning is the best and fairest way to proceed.
>
>|> I'm a lot more impressed by friendliness when it shows some
>|> consideration.  Calling me "Liz" without asking sounds like phony
>|> familiarity... anyone unfamiliar enough with me to call me "Liz"
>|> isn't familiar enough with me to shorten my name in the first place.
>
>Make sure they understand this right from the introduction.
>
Karen, I think you're really reaching here.  I don't think it's 
appropriate for people to have to state a bunch of ground rules
up front in order to ward off the unwanted intimacy of others.

Not only that, but it has been my experience that in many cases where
my introduction of myself has been ignored, it has been followed by
other liberties I didn't care to indulge.  One person, in spite of
being told, over and over again, what my name was, insisted on calling
me "TT", and hugging me when he saw me.  If someone mispronounces my
name (Shawna instead of Shannah which rhymes with Hannah) I don't make
a big deal out of it, but I think most of us can agree that TT is
going just a little too far.

If you want to defend the terminally over-friendly, please don't let
me stop you.  However, I believe that anyone with a grain of sense and
tact can take the "hint" from how someone introduces themselves, and call
them by the name as stated.  I don't believe that most people are either
stupid or oblivious enough to need the "Please call me Elizabeth".  Those
that do just label themselves in my mind as being too forward, and while
I might not be actively nasty, I do treat them with reserve and caution.

After all, if Elizabeth wanted to be called Liz, why wouldn't she 
introduce herself that way?  

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From: tps@jptcs.COM (Tim Sailer)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Money and the Single World (was: Education and the Single World
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:04:00 GMT
Reply-To: tps@jptcs.com
Organization: JPT Computer Solutions, Port Jeff Station, NY
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Kiran Wagle (kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu) wrote:
: tps@jptcs.COM (Tim Sailer) writes:
: 
: >No. In a long term relationship (read marriage), there should never be a
: >question of 'my' money and 'your' money. It gets thrown into the pot, 
: >each one gets a budgetted amount for them to spend as they want (you
: >HAVE to have some 'mad money'), bills are paid, and the rest gets
: >put into savings. 
: 
: How silly.  Contribute to a fund to pay joint expenses, and keep
: separate accounts for separate expenses.

Who said that?

-- 
Tim Sailer
JPT Computer Solutions - SCO Sales/Consulting/Administration and Mangling
Port Jefferson Station, NY
(516) 331-9001
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright)
Subject: Re: Where to meet women?
Organization: Why Do I Drink Caffeine At Night??
	<1992Nov8.163151.26539@grebyn.com> <BxEzzK.Dsn@access.digex.com>
	<BxsDor.24r@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 05:49:33 GMT

kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
>huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:

>>The current _Washingtonian_ has a big story on The Date From Hell.  The
>>promo on the radio mentioned guys who think watching _The McLaughlin Group_
>>on TV is foreplay and those who quiz their dates on current events.

>Well, the McLaughlin Group is a bit obnoxious, I prefer the Capitol
>Gang.  And my date often quizzes me on current events.  

Oh, good, I'm not the only one with weird tastes!

I wonder if this sort of thing is more important to people in election
years?  Do you suppose interparty relationships are less common in leap
years?  

>Does that mean she's the sweetie from hell?

Geez, I hope not.  Sounds like I should fall into whatever category she
does.  

---Julie
-- 
* loris, n.     Any of several small, nocturnal, arboreal primates of the *
* genera _Loris_ and _Nycticebus_, of tropical Asia, having dense, woolly *
* fur, large eyes, and a vestigial tail.  [French, probably from obsolete *
* Dutch _loeris_, simpleton, clown.]    ---- American Heritage Dictionary *
From: diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: 21 Nov 92 22:45:30 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <thurlow.722367772@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
>I had a boss once, "Bob", who thought all "Robert"s liked to be called
>"Bob" the way he liked to be called "Bob", and he called me "Bob" every
>time I talked to him through my summers at the pulp mill.  To this day,
>I refuse to answer to "Bob", though I will on occasion ask someone who
>uses the name "Bob" who they might be referring to if there's no one else
>around.

Wow, sounds as bad as being named 'Elizabeth' in a decade in which popular
consensus has decreed that all Elizabeths be called 'Liz'.  I often
introduce myself as Elizabeth Abrams because it sounds more formal and
adult than Beth Abrams, but this often backfires when someone decides
to call me Liz in attempt to sound friendly (and earns, instead, my
hostility).

				--Diamond

diamond@acpub.duke.edu |   The soul may choose its own society and shut
Elizabeth S. Abrams    |   the door, but the body gets thrown into bed
		       |   with the damnedest people.  --Peter Beagle
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: cjp8b@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Chris Penington)
Subject: Re: ISO MY PRINCESS
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:57:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.233759.17496@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>In article <By316p.IMt@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov19.235541.19384@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>>>
>>>Now, even though some of my best friends are marsupials (well, they could
>>>be--I haven't checked), don't they usually score in the lowest placentiles?
>>                                                         ^^^^^^
>>Lower, perhaps, but monotremes would probably score lowest.
>> 
>>>Trygve   (I know, I know--the tests must contain a racial bias....)
>>
>>No, they're just out of order.
>
>I surrender!  You and Chris Penington are pun genuses of a better class
>than I.  

Phyla! Phyla!

:)

Chris

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Biochemistry Dept., Box 440                     /o           `   Favourite
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Charlottesville, Va 22908   (804)924-8210         \>~~~~~~z7
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: nkill
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:36:44 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

>In article <74245@apple.apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:

>   I don't know how many more points someone gets for being a member of a 
>   minority group, but I question whether someone with a 95 score is "more 
>   qualified" than someone with a 90 score. That small a spread could be 
>   affected by anything. 

>   If my argument is correct, that means the two candidates are equally
>   qualified. 

>it is the precise numerical score that matters in most civil
>service and like exams (like promotion exams in Fire Departments and
>Police Departments.)  There is *no* freedom to take someone with an 89
>before someone with a 90.

I realize this, but my point is that the small boost given to the minority 
candidate does not cause a *less qualified* candidate to be hired. It 
merely makes it a tad more likely that, given two equivalently qualified 
candidates, the one who is a member of a minority group will be hired.

--
Stef                     "The force of gravity on the moon is a fraction of
stef@apple.com            the gravity on the earth, so the moon would not be 
                          able to attract the pen to inself.  Rather, it would
                          only be able to suspend the pen."
                              --The Pen Is Mightier Than the Moon Hall of Fame
From: mysti@sybase.com (Mysti)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What do you Am men think about Am women?
Date: 13 Nov 92 20:15:19 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <MARTINC.92Nov8150437@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>In article <1992Nov6.210652.712@netcom.com> sheaffer@netcom.com (Robert Sheaffer) writes:
>
>   Well, check out the content of the virtually all-female form of (usually)
>   soft-core pornography known as "Romance Novels": written for women,
>   by women.  My understanding is that these books DO typically show 'women
>   in danger' being "rescued" by men.  If correct, this tells us that
>   "men rescuing women" is NOT "female-bashing",  but rather a kind of
>   fantasy shared both by women and men. Hence, the "rescue fantasy" is
>   probably very deeply grounded in both male AND female psychology. If
>   this is upsetting to YOU, of course you're free to tell any male who
>   attempts to rescue you to go piss off!  :)
>
>"So what did the princess do after the knight resuced her?"
>"She rescued him right back."

Important point #1:  what is the most frequently occurring gender of the
people who control film studios and publishing houses?  

Important point #2:  In writing seminars, I have frequently been told that
men often write these stories and pseudonymify with women's names.

Important point #3:  Women act in porn films, this does not mean that violence
in pornography is a "fantasy shared by women and men".  Likewise, because women
sell (what men are purchasing for publication for sale to women) these stories
does not mean that they share the fantasy.  If they did, they'd be lolling about
waiting for someone to rescue them, eh?

Important point #4:  There's nothing wrong with having a fantasy about
someone rescuing you.  The problem is that all too often women (and men)
come to believe that this is their only option.  
And they may not be too far wrong if the statistics which say that 40
percent of homeless people are women escaping violent partners, is true.

We don't take these things seriously because we are humorless castrating
femanazi dykes, but because their consequences can be measured in human
suffering and pain, on both sides of the gender line.  

Thanks,

--
========================
Mysti Rubert, Oaktown, California

"It't not the men in my life, but the life in my men."  Mae West
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:46:40 GMT

In article <1e9c48INNc5d@FUNCTOR.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU>, loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore) writes:
> Gee, I really managed to stir up a lot of flames with my offhand mention
> of tie-wearing!  As I said, I don't consider wearing a tie to be a 100%
> reliable bozo indicator, but it does tend to set off alarm bells.

Be sure to turn off the alarm bells before someone eggs you!  :-{)

> 
> Me, I wouldn't work in a place where I was expected to get dressed up
> unless I was *really* desperate, which I'm not.  Heck, I don't even own
> a dress, and I wouldn't be caught dead in high heels either.

I don't own a dress either, I borrow my sisters.  :)

> 
> -Sandra the cynic



--

Larry Billings
*******************************************************************************

I left home just a week before,
I'd never ever kissed a woman before,
Lola smiled and took me by the hand,
said Little boy, I'm gonna make you a man.

*******************************************************************************

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Money and the Single World (was: Education and the Single World
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:15:37 GMT

In article <5733@jptcs.COM> tps@jptcs.com writes:
>
>If you go into it taking precautions against 'if or when' it breaks up,
>it's a planned failure from the start! 

More important, don't you know about making Murphy's Law work _for_
you?  If you plan for something, it won't happen.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: Encounter on a bus
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:59:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.194029.5006@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>, rfs@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (richard.f.j.soyack) writes:
> I don't know what made me think of it, but 25 years ago I
> picked-up a girl on a New York City bus (it was the first time
> I did this).  Maybe sitting here on a rainy Sunday made my
> mind go back 

Perhaps it was senility...:)

> 
> Sweet memories to all,
> Rich Soyack


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Philly Boink
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:09:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.151541.13255@clsi.COM> shankha@clsi.COM
(Shankha Mitra) writes:
>
>Hey, what's the deal?  Isn't someone going to inform us how the Boink was?  Any
>boinking?  Enquiry minds want to know.

The Friday-night barhopping was fun; we got just silly enough to
really enjoy each other.  (James doesn't always talk the way he posts,
but get a few drinks into him and :-) Saturday, the museums and such
were interesting, dinner was excellent (but then I've always loved
Thai food), the dancing was fun (and sort of tiring, but...).

Then there was the poker game.  It started off as sort of a "grudge
match", but there weren't any seesters there, and it soon turned
silly.  The moneyless were invited to join, as the rules changed to
strip poker.  (Kiran, I still think strip Diablo is too rude.
Efficient, but too rude :-)

Further, deponent saieth not.

The Philly boink is next weekend.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Description of the Fetal Remains from an Abortion
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:52:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Nov22.204329.10301@ncsu.edu> dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:

>I think I know why people have objected to my posting of a  
>description of the fetal remains from an abortion, and it's
>not because it's "inappropriate" for this newsgroup.  There
>are ongoing political discussions in this newsgroup, and
>nobody seems to care.  The people in this newsgroup don't  
>want others to realize that abortion destroys a human life.
>They could put me in a killfile, and they wouldn't have to 
>read the description.  But it's the fact that other people
>can read the description which upsets them.

No Dougie, it's the fact that you're sending the same bits over the
wire dozens of times WHEN WE'VE ALL SEEN IT that bothers me, that
coupled with the fact that there is indeed a better place to discuss
this issue.  We talked politics during the election campaign when
almost every other newsgroup was also unable to avoid discussion of
politics.  If you were a regular soc.singles poster and wanted to
discuss abortion, I might welcome your input (though I'd certainly
argue).  But as it is, you're an invader.  Get the fuck out of here.

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"I get so tickled debunking bad personal philosophy." - Milquetoast
From: kgorman@bbn.com (Karen Gorman)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: 23 Nov 1992 15:22:24 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <thurlow.722463637@convex.convex.com>, thurlow@convex.com
(Robert Thurlow) writes:
> In <7260@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
> 
|>>... but this often backfires when someone decides
|>>to call me Liz in attempt to sound friendly (and earns, instead, my
|>>hostility).
|> 
|> Uh huh.  The quickest way for a salesman to earn my hostility is to
|> call me Bob rather than asking how I prefer to be addressed.

Why don't you just be honest and state your preference to EVERYONE when
you meet them?  Afterall, you're the one with the preference.

|> I'm
|> sometimes a little kinder to higher forms of life :-)

What tall men/women, women in high heels, or aliens from outer space?

Karen
kg@bbn.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
Subject: Re: Description of the Fetal Remains from an Abortion
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:00:33 GMT
Distribution: na
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In <MARTINC.92Nov23102035@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>In article <1992Nov23.131304.9889@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>
>   In article <MARTINC.92Nov22234015@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>   >In article <MARTINC.92Nov22205408@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>   >
>   >   No, asshole, it's the fact that *I* had to read the description before I
>   >   *knew* you should be in my kill file that upsets me.
>   >
>   >Since it appear to be an issue, I apologize for sullying the newsgroup
>   >with the somewhat coarse word "asshole".
>
>   Why?  Other than the fact that you're wrong, of course: no way Dougie
>   could be an asshole, the way he's so full of shit.
>
>Thank you for your support.

I, too, support your use of anatomically-correct descriptives.
--
Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
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From: salem@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Bruce Salem)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.pagan,alt.romance,alt.sex,alt.polyamory,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Prove That Kids are Precious Gifts From God. (Was: Re: ra-ising c-hildren)
Date: 23 Nov 1992 04:24:33 GMT
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
NNTP-Posting-Host: pangea.stanford.edu

In article <lort.722399409@sfu.ca> lort@fraser.sfu.ca (Charles Lort) writes:
>obviously you have never had children of your own.  One day you may if you
>are intelligent enough, have that rare opportunity to be in the delivery
>room when your own child is born.  Then you can argue that there are no
>miracles or God.
>
>lort@sfu.ca                           One day I'm going to find out to make a
>				       .signature file and not have to do this
>					time

	Actually seeing your children get born, I have done so each time
for my four children, is wonderful, awe inspiring, but as I think that
I know which part I had in the matter :-) there is nothing particularly
compelling about your association of childbirth with either miracles and
God.

	And while we are at it, impuning someone's intelligance because
you think he hasn't had babies yet it alittle like me impuning yours
because you haven't learned to use line wrap in your message, I folded
the lines for you, and like me doubting your competance to cat three
lines to your .signature file.

	What is sfu.ca ? Is that a Catholic university? If so, your
Pro Life indoctrination is showing! How's that for jumping to
conclusions? Get the point? Eh?

Bruce Salem


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rossi@mtu.edu (Rossi)
Subject: Talk Soup
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:53:43 GMT

In article <lh2600INN659@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>In other words, it was rude and insensitive.
>
>Dawn
>
>Joseph Campbell gave me hope and now I have been saved.

  Mmmmm mmmmm goood!  :)

>"Folk Song" by Bongwater

  I think they drank it.


   songbird
From: jsmt@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Julia Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPENED??????
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:01:07 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <1992Nov20.094245.4156@memstvx1.memst.edu> anthrlib@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>Hello Out There!
>
>I am in desperate need of advice, help, whatever....  For the last three
>monthes I've been falling for one of the nicest guys on the planet (or so I
>thought).  He seemed very interested at first---before he knew that I was.  Now
>that he knows that I'm interested (I told him) he's bolted!  I'm so confused. 
>Never had this problem before.  Any advice? Suggestions? Possible solutions?
>etc?  Has this happened to any of you? I don't get an opportunity to read the
>news often--so please feel free to email me at:
>
Damn, another victim of the boy-disease.  Boys are not comfortable with
closeness, only pursuit.  They love to chase, love the thrill of the challenge,
but the MINUTE you show signs of having your attention captured, they
are finished - the thrill is over and the next conquest is to be won.
It is a killer, and it would do us all a world of good if men like this
would show visible signs of the disease.  They are so engaging when they
are in pursuit mode, though, that even if they had a big sign blinking
in neon on their forehead, we'd probably ignore it, thinking "for me it will
be different."  sigh....
  
If it helps, remember than he never really was interested in *you* just in the 
game you offered.  If you back off and recover your own interests and amusements, he might regain his former interest in the challenge you present, but do you really want that?  <if you couldn't tell, I am just recently over a case of this myself - it is painfully common.>

'
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