HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: uucpmap@vela.acs.oakland.edu
Subject: map for plex-1
Organization: Michigan Mail Police
Distribution: mi
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:27:10 GMT

#N	plex-1, plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us
#F	vela.acs.oakland.edu
#S	Plexus P/35 68000 ; Unix Sys5.2
#O	Kite-Net LTD.
#C	Dave Parks
#E	root@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us
#T	+1 313 663 2247 
#P 	1439 Kirtland  Ann Arbor, MI 48103
#L	42 18 N / 83 45 W city
#R	Ann Arbor's -NEW- Usenet News Backbone site currently feeding 12 sites.
#R	Online read/post accounts, mail: accounts@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us
#U	destroyer.rs.itd.umich.edu  iunet.ann-arbor.mi.us   heifetz.msen.com
#U	arbortext    ganglion    mousetrap    suntec1    unisys    toadstool
#U	qflag    fog    claxen    loft    n8mdy    plex-2
#W	root@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us (Dave Parks); Mon Oct 5 09:53:37 EDT 1992
#
# Updates of this map entry should be sent to Bob Leffler,
# uucpmap@vela.acs.oakland.edu
#
plex-1= plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us
plex-1  kitenet(LOCAL),
	plex-2(LOCAL),
	iunet(LOCAL),
	upose(POLLED),
	ohriman(POLLED),
	netmeg(POLLED),
	toadstool(POLLED),
	suntec1(POLLED),
	unisys(POLLED),
	vela(DIRECT*4+FAST),
	m-net(DIRECT),
	caen(DIRECT+FAST),
	destroyer(DIRECT+FAST),
	heifetz(DEMAND+FAST),
	ganglion(POLLED),
	mousetrap(POLLED),
	qflag(POLLED),
	arbortext(POLLED),
	claxen(POLLED),
	n8mdy(POLLED),
	loft(DAILY*2),
	fog(POLLED)

Newsgroups: mi.map
From: uucpmap@vela.acs.oakland.edu
Subject: map for linx
Organization: Michigan Mail Police
Distribution: mi
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 09:25:09 GMT

#N	linx
#S	Amiga 3000T / 68040
#O	NONE
#C	Dale A Schlott
#E	postmaster@linx, dschlott@linx
#T	+1 313 338 1498
#P	412 West Huron, Pontiac, MI 48341-1425
#L	42 38 09 N / 83 18 33 W
#U	vela, suntec1, sygnus, w8rre, medar
#W	dschlott@linx (Dale Schlott); Mon Oct  5 05:24:15 EDT 1992
#
linx	vela(DIRECT), medar(POLLED), suntec1(DEMAND+FAST),
	sygnus(DEMAND+FAST), w8rre(DEMAND)
From: uucpmap@vela.acs.oakland.edu
Newsgroups: mi.map
Subject: map for plex-2
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:27:34 GMT
Distribution: mi
Organization: Michigan Mail Police

#N	plex-2, plex-2.ann-arbor.mi.us
#F	vela.acs.oakland.edu
#S	Plexus P/60 68020 ; Unix Sys5.2 S1.7
#O	Kite-Net LTD.
#C	Dave Parks
#E	root@plex-2.ann-arbor.mi.us
#T	+1 313 663 2247 
#P 	1439 Kirtland  Ann Arbor, MI 48103
#L	42 18 N / 83 45 W city
#R	Ann Arbor's newest Usenet News server, on-line Oct, 5th 1992, for 
#R	more information mail; accounts@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us.
#U	plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us    unisys
#W	root@plex-2.ann-arbor.mi.us (Dave Parks); Mon Oct 5 09:54:33 EDT 1992
#
# Updates of this map entry should be sent to Bob Leffler,
# uucpmap@vela.acs.oakland.edu
#
plex-2= plex-2.ann-arbor.mi.us
plex-2  plex-1(LOCAL),
	vela(DIRECT),
	unisys(DIRECT+FAST)
Newsgroups: mi.map
From: uucpmap@vela.acs.oakland.edu
Subject: map for rel
Organization: Michigan Mail Police
Distribution: mi
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:29:20 GMT

#N      rel, rel.mi.org
#F      destroyer.rs.itd.umich.edu
#S	G386K, Esix 4.03          
#O      UUCP Mapping Project, Michigan Coordinator
#C      Bob Leffler
#E      bob@rel.mi.org
#T      +1 313 696-2479
#P      31983 Lamar Dr., Farmington, MI 48336-2423
#L      42 27 52 N / 83 22 35 W city
#R	uucpmap updates may be sent to uucpmap@vela.acs.oakland.edu
#U      edsews, destroyer, rutgers, cfctech, vela
#W      bob@rel.mi.org ; Tue Sep 29 18:29:07 EDT 1992
#
rel=	rel.mi.org
rel=    rel.eds.com
rel=	rel.systech.tbg.gmeds.com
rel	sharkey(DEAD),
	cfctech(DAILY+FAST),
	destroyer(DAILY+FAST),
	medar(DAILY),
	vela(DAILY),
	rutgers(WEEKLY)

Newsgroups: mi.map
From: uucpmap@vela.acs.oakland.edu
Subject: map for curlie
Organization: Michigan Mail Police
Distribution: mi
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:27:52 GMT

#N      curlie
#S      Televideo 386; Waffle UUCP
#O      Not an Organization
#C      Thierry Lach
#E      curlie!thierry
#T      +1 313 263 7126
#P      38104 Johannes   Mt. Clemens   48044
#L      42 36 N 83 00 W city
#R
#W      curlie!thierry (Thierry Lach); Mon Sep 28 20:59:09 1992
#U
#
curlie    sycom(DAILY+FAST)

Newsgroups: mi.map
From: uucpmap@vela.acs.oakland.edu
Subject: map for frith
Organization: Michigan Mail Police
Distribution: mi
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:10:59 GMT

#N	frith
#S	Sun 690/MP; SunOS 4.1.2
#O	Michigan State University, College of Engineering
#C	Ed Symanzik
#E	frith!postmaster
#T	+1 517 353 4844
#P	Case Center for CAEM, 112 Engineering Building, E. Lansing MI 48824
#L	42 43 29 N / 084 28 50 W
#R	This is also forest.egr.msu.edu [35.8.14.20] on the Internet
#U	
#W	frith!symanzik (Ed Symanzik); Wed Sep 30 15:00:25 EST 1992
#
frith	.egr.msu.edu(LOCAL)
frith=	forest.egr.msu.edu
#
#	Local sites
#
frith	tsl-thor(HOURLY)
#
#	TCP sites
#
frith	uunet(DEDICATED),
	gvsu(DEDICATED),
	vela(DEDICATED),
	destroyer(DEDICATED),
	mailrus(DEAD)
#
#	Backbone uucp sites
#
frith	theclub(DIRECT)
#
#	Leaf uucp sites
#
frith	eurynome(POLLED),
	ipecac(POLLED),
	cashew(POLLED),
	dccsdev(POLLED),
	jresys(POLLED),
	unomad(POLLED)

Newsgroups: mi.map
From: uucpmap@vela.acs.oakland.edu
Subject: map for vela
Organization: Michigan Mail Police
Distribution: mi
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:15:05 GMT

#N	.oakland.edu, vela
#F	vela.acs.oakland.edu
#S	DECsystem 5500; Ultrix 4.2A
#O	Oakland University, Academic Computer Services
#C	Jeff Marraccini, Paul Amaranth, Bill Watt
#E	vela!jeff, vela!amaranth, vela!watt
#T	+1 313 370-4542, +1 313 370-4541, +1 313 370-3155
#P	Office of Computer & Info. Services; Rochester, MI 48309-4401
#L	42 40 N / 83 08 W
#R	Gateway to Oakland University from UUCP
#U	altern8 amiga1 dri2 fmsrl7.srl.ford.com instem linx lppl m.cs.uiuc.edu
#U	macinac mbsun mistik news.nosc.mil nucleus pd-dom.wl.com rel
#U	srvr1.engin.umich.edu sycom vtrm01 w8hd wsu-cs.cs.wayne.edu wyn386
#W	vela!jeff (Jeff Marraccini); Thu Oct  1 14:28:00 EDT 1992
#
# Note to local manager: When modified, send new copy to uucpmap@vela
# vela (vela.acs.oakland.edu, 141.210.10.2)
#
vela = vela.acs.oakland.edu
#
#	Local OU sites
#
vela	.acs.oakland.edu(LOCAL)
vela	egrunix(DEMAND),
	smaczne(POLLED)
#
#	TCP/IP UUCP connections
#
vela	frith(DEMAND),
	mailrus(DEMAND),
	mbsun(POLLED),
	wsu-cs(DEMAND)
#
#	Dial-up UUCP connections
#
vela	altern8(POLLED),
	amiga1(POLLED),
	amiga2(POLLED),
	cetus(POLLED),
	celtic(POLLED),
	deep(POLLED),
	dri2(POLLED),
	instem(POLLED),
	iunet(POLLED),
	linx(POLLED),
	lppl(POLLED),
	macinac(POLLED),
	micro(POLLED),
	mistik(POLLED),
	mudos(POLLED),
	netmeg(POLLED),
	nucleus(POLLED),
	perot(POLLED),
	plex-1(POLLED),
	plex-2(POLLED),
	rel(POLLED),
	sycom(POLLED),
	teemc(POLLED),
	tre(POLLED),
	trwvssi(POLLED),
	ursus(POLLED),
	uuleo(POLLED),
	vtrm01(POLLED),
	w8hd(POLLED),
	wyn386(POLLED)
From: mjo@sycom.mi.org (Mike O'Connor)
Newsgroups: mi.sun
Subject: Speaker for SEMiSLUG?
Distribution: world
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! v0.960
Date: 3 Oct 92 04:23:21 EST
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange

What's the plans in this matter?

mjo@sycom.mi.org
Newsgroups: mi.sun,mi.misc
From: scs@iti.org (Steve Simmons)
Subject: October SEMiSLUG Meeting
Organization: Industrial Technology Institute
Distribution: mi
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:50:26 GMT


SEMiSLUG/Usen*x Meeting: Thursday, October 8, 7:30PM, at the Industrial
Technology Institute.  Directions at the bottom.

Sorry for the late notice, I got my wires crossed and thought we were
still ten days away.....

The October Meeting:

 o  We'll open with the Question Session and Welcome of New People.

 o  Allen Leibowitz of DEC <allen@det.dec.com> will be talking on
    some new security and firewall software from DEC.  He sends this
    description:

      The Screening External Access Link (SEAL) is a service offering from
      Digital Equipment Corporation that implements a secure gateway between
      private IP networks and the Internet.  The SEAL package reflects much
      of the experience of the maintainers of Digital's own Internet gateway
      (gatekeeper.dec.com and decwrl.dec.com).
    
      The SEAL service implements security policy throughout different levels
      of the network using standard hardware and software.  Like all good
      software it is easy to use and highly configurable :-).  Unlike other
      simple router-based firewalls, SEAL leaves a very large audit trail.
    
      SEAL is being used by a number of Fortune-100 class corporations for
      their world-wide networks.

    Allen has been involved with the definition and delivery of this
    service.  You've probably seen him at other SEMiSLUG meetings both
    presenting and attending.

 o  Last will be followed by the Answer Session and the usual Rumors
    and Innuendo.


Administrivia:

The First National Bank of SEMiSLUG continues to do well; assuming the
hat passing for October is like the previous months I'll have been
paid back and we'll put the extra money into better cookies for November
and beyond.  Meg Geddes and Joni Dale have teamed up and volunteered
to do a batch of home-made for us if we buy the ingredients; I said
yes.


Future Meetings:

Topics being worked on include a reprise and expansion of the Iterated
Systems fractal stuff, Hewlett-Packard, transputers, a custom microprocesor
talk, security, and Sun.

Topics suggestions and contacts are always welcome.

			*       *       *

Directions:

ITI is at the corner of Hubbard and Huron Parkway in Ann Arbor.  From
the Plymouth Road exit of US-23 you go west two lights to Huron, then
turn south.  The first light is Hubbard.  Turn left onto Hubbard.  The
first entrance on your left is the driveway.

Plymouth Road exit is north of the 23/I-94 intersection, and south of
the 23/M-14 intersection.  If you come by I-94, go north on 23.  If you
come by M-14, go south on 23.

Cookies and pop, plus the usual post-meeting at Washington St. Station.
-- 
scs:  Tied for last on the Zwicky list with `zwicky'.
Newsgroups: mi.wanted,misc.wanted
From: paul@ais.org (Paul Vargo)
Subject: need some drams
Organization: UMCC
Distribution: us
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:39:55 GMT

Hello all,

I need 18  256x1 @120 or faster DRAMS.
If you have these, mail me a price for them.


TIA,
paul

Newsgroups: mi.wanted
From: Angela Johnson <Angela_Johnson@med.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: WANTED: Michigan vs. Minnesota
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 17:38:29 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

In article <Zyz-D9@engin.umich.edu> Michael F. Kamprath,
kamprath@space-grant.sprl.umich.edu writes: >I am looking for two tickets
in
the same section (or even right next to >each other :-) ) for the
Michigan vs.
Minnesota game. 

I will sell you my tickets - I always forget the section number, etc.,
but I'll
tell you tomorrow.
Newsgroups: mi.wanted
From: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: NeXT Presales Systems Engineer (Ann Arbor/Detroit area) 
Organization: Not an official spokesperson for Ford Motor Co.
Reply-To: mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com ("Mike O'Connor")
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 17:21:37 EDT
X-Received: by usenet.pa.dec.com; id AA05236; Tue, 6 Oct 92 14:24:28 -0700
X-Received: by inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com; id AA09022; Tue, 6 Oct 92 14:22:26 -0700
X-Received: from ef2007.efhd.ford.com by srlns1.srl.ford.com (4.1/Ford 2.0) via id AA05297; Tue, 6 Oct 92 17:21:53 EDT
X-Received: by ef2007.efhd.ford.com (4.1/Ford 2.0) via id AA01337; Tue, 6 Oct 92 17:21:38 EDT
X-To: mi.wanted.usenet
X-Whois: MJO17 (NIC/DARPA Registry)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

>From: hac@staff.tc.umn.edu ()

NeXT Presales Systems Engineer (Ann Arbor/Detroit area)

NeXT Systems Engineers provide the technical expertise necessary to close sales,
and generally evangelize the NeXT product family.  SE's must possess superb
technical skills and a sense of innovation, combined with a personality which
promotes cooperation, trust, and the sharing of ideas.  The successful candidate
will have a mix of software engineering skills and enjoy working with people and
new technology.

Duties and Responsibilities:
-Rapid prototyping of software for feasibility analysis
-Technical presentations to all levels of customers
-Integration of NeXT computers with existing systems
-Technical account management
-Provide strategic input and guidance to sales, marketing, and engineering,
regarding market conditions, product requirements, and overall program successes
of failures.

Necessary skills
-Solid software engineering background
-Ability to articulate technically complex issues to a wide variety of
audiences
-Demonstrated aptitude at working independently
-Ability to work with limited supervision in an autonomous, results oriented
environment
-Ability to work within a team environment Strong problem solving skills
-Ability to juggle multiple task

Relevant Experience:
--NeXTSTEP, Objective-C, Mach
-UNIX systems programming/systems administration
-Object-oriented programming
-Advanced application programming in C, LISP, and FORTRAN (OR EQUIVALENT)
-Windowing application development (MacIntosh, X11, MS Windows, etc.)
-Database application development (Sybase, Oracle, etc.)
-TCP/IP, NFS, YP/NIS
-PostScript
-Pre-sales support experience

Permanent Residency is required
Education: -BSCS or equivalent with 4 years experience required:  MSCS
preferred
Salary: $40K to $75K depending on experience
Location: Ann Arbor/Detroit area 

Contact Henry Cornelius, CSA, 5545 Malibu Drive, Minneapolis, MN 55436.
Phone:(612)933-9669 Fax:(612)933-9713, E-Mail: 70363.1224@Compuserve.Com

Newsgroups: mi.wanted
From: Angela Johnson <Angela_Johnson@med.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: WANTED: Michigan vs. Minnesota
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 17:39:28 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

In article <Zyz-D9@engin.umich.edu> Michael F. Kamprath,
kamprath@space-grant.sprl.umich.edu writes: >I am looking for two tickets
in
the same section (or even right next to >each other :-) ) for the
Michigan vs.
Minnesota game. 

I will sell you my tickets - I always forget the section number, etc.,
but I'll
tell you tomorrow.
Newsgroups: mi.wanted
From: Sheri Mathos <Sheri_Mathos@med.umich.edu>
Subject: Apartment
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 14:35:48 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

I am looking for a 1 bedroom apt or good sized efficiency in the Ann Arbor
area.  Would not rule out surrounding areas.  Only looking to pay around
$400
plus utilities.  Please quickmail if you have something I might be
interested
in.
Newsgroups: mi.wanted
From: Michael F. Kamprath <kamprath@space-grant.sprl.umich.edu>
Subject: WANTED: Michigan vs. Minnesota
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 13:24:38 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan, Aerospace Engineering
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6ECB89A8101C4FC@sprl-mac2016.sprl.umich.edu>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 28 Sep 92 13:26:50 GMT

I am looking for two tickets in the same section (or even right next to
each other :-) ) for the Michigan vs. Minnesota game.  


========================================================================
| Michael F. Kamprath                   | The University of Michigan   |
|   kamprath@space-grant.sprl.umich.edu |      Aerospace Engineering   |
|   kamprath@engin.umich.edu            |                              |
|---------------------------------------+------------------------------+
| Never, never, never drink two 40-ouncers of St. Ides in one night    |
|                                   --Michael Kamprath                 |
========================================================================
Newsgroups: mi.news,mi.wanted
From: liason@uuhare.Rabbit.NET (Customer Liason Services)
Subject: Ann Arbor Dialup Numbers for The Rabbit Network
Organization: The Rabbit Network
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 03:23:30 GMT

We are in the final stages of determining if we will be providing
a  local  Ann Arbor number for our USENET news/E-MAIL service. If
you would be interested in obtaining USENET news from us,  please
reply  to this posting or call 313-790-0094 to let us know if you
are interested.

We will be charging $69/month  for  USENET  NEWS/E-MAIL  combined
service  and  $49/month  for E-MAIL only. There will be a 3 month
commitment required as well as a $75 startup fee.

We can provide full feeds or partial feeds and will have  Telebit
WorldBlazer  modems  available for access. You can receive a feed
from us, either via UUCP or via TCP/IP or you can read  the  news
remotely by connecting to our news server vi TCP/IP (NNTP).

If you have any further questions, please give us a call or  send
e-mail.   REMEMBER:  We  locate  our  access  numbers  where  our
customers want them, so if you  are  interested,  please  let  us
know.

Customer Liason Services
The Rabbit Network, Inc.
From: sensei@dojo.mi.org (the Maniak)
Newsgroups: mi.news
Subject: Ann Arbor Dialup Numbers for The Rabbit Network 
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 12:16:29 GMT
Organization: Author of "My Life as a Cindy Crawford Cultist!" #1 Best Seller!


In article <1992Sep29.032330.15157@uuhare.Rabbit.NET> liason@uuhare.Rabbit.NET
writes:

  > We are in the final stages of determining if we will be providing
  > a  local  Ann Arbor number for our USENET news/E-MAIL service. If
  > you would be interested in obtaining USENET news from us,  please
  > reply  to this posting or call 313-790-0094 to let us know if you
  > are interested.

Of all places, I think A^2 would be the silliest area to put your
modems, for reasons which should be blindingly obvious.

You're just trying to get hype for people to talk about at the SEMiSLUG
and michigan!usr/group meetings, right?

  > We will be charging $69/month  for  USENET  NEWS/E-MAIL  combined
  > service  and  $49/month  for E-MAIL only. There will be a 3 month
  > commitment required as well as a $75 startup fee.

$50/month for email only?  <laughs>  What a bargain!  I guess with
a price like this I should just go and sign up right away...  NOT!

Why don't I just call PSI up and see what they'll charge me, since
that's where you seem to be passing your news through?  :)

                                        ...Sensei

==
 Internet:  sensei@dojo.mi.org
 UUCP:  ...!wsu-cs!dojo!sensei                      

Newsgroups: mi.news
From: root@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us (Dave Parks)
Subject: Announcing Plex-2
Organization: Plex-1, Michigan's Public Access Usenet Gateway  (Ann Arbor).
Distribution: mi
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 02:21:17 GMT

Announcing: Plex-2 (plex-2.ann-arbor.mi.us)

   On Monday Oct. 5, 1992 Plex-2 will be on-line providing S.E. Michigan with
Usenet News and UUCP/Email accounts. Plex-2 is a Plexus P/60 68020 running
UNIX Sys5.2 S1.7 with 8.0 Mb of RAM and 600+ Mb of disk space (with two North-
ern Telecom 350 Mb SMD drives if/when needed). Currently, Plex-2 has 1 14.4
Supra and one 2400 USR Courier for News Pickup and is fed a FULL news feed
via Plex-1 (which will still have it's 5 2400 baud modem lines).

   There are currently 24 working ports on the P/60 and we will be offering
everything from X amount of open access UUCP lines to private connections on
your own DIRECT and private port. Since my house is wired for 21 incoming
phone lines, a DIRECT connection to Plex-2 will save you money against those
.062 cent calls. We have been running a DIRECT phone connection to iunet for
months now which allowed us to poll every 5 minutes 24 hours a day with calls
nowhere near 400 per month.

   To date we have been running the Plex Project as a Public Access Usenet
News entity, attempting to serve the publics Usenet News needs and lower
the systems UUCP load of the Universities providing us with our news. The
Plex Project is run 100% on donations from our users interested in having
a public voice in how Plex-1 & 2 are run. We have a large interest from our
users in forming a more formal group (I'll be posting more about this later),
so if you are interested in helping our group/system or you're just interested
in a little more information feel free to mail me at one of the addresses list-
ed in the .signature below.
						   _____    _____
						  '  /  )  '  )  )
						  .-/- /    -/--'
						 (_/__/_AVE / ARKS
-- 
destroyer!m-net!kite  Public Access  Altos 68020 UNIX Sys-III (313) 994-6333
vela!plex-1!root       Usenet News   Plexus P/35 68000 UNIX SysV.2  663-6207
vela!plex-2!root       Usenet News   Plexus P/60 68020 UNIX SysV.2  663-6873
  -- You can mail Dave Parks at these addresses, or phone (313) 663-2247 --
Newsgroups: mi.news
From: root@plex-2.ann-arbor.mi.us (Dave Parks)
Subject: Greetings from Plex-2
Organization: Plex-2, Michigan's Public Access Usenet Gateway  (Ann Arbor).
Distribution: mi
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 06:48:42 GMT

Greetings Netters,

	I am now posting from Plex-2 (plex-2.ann-arbor.mi.us) a Plexus P/60
68020 running Plexus' port of UNIX Sys5.2 S1.7 with 8 MB of RAM and 600+
Mb of Disk space. We are now on-line with the Net and are being fed a FULL
news feed via Plex-1 (plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us).

	Over the next few weeks we will be adding feeds and moving some from
Plex-1 (those of youw with 9600 baud modems) and allowing new feeds to take
their place on Plex-1.

THIS THREAD IS ALSO A TEST FROM PLEX-2 (since I forgot to take out the :L:
limiters in the sys files)  ;)
						   _____    _____
						  '  /  )  '  )  )
						  .-/- /    -/--'
						 (_/__/_AVE / ARKS
-- 
destroyer!m-net!kite  Public Access  Altos 68020 UNIX Sys-III (313) 994-6333
vela!plex-1!root       Usenet News   Plexus P/35 68000 UNIX SysV.2  663-6207
vela!plex-2!root       Usenet News   Plexus P/60 68020 UNIX SysV.2  663-6207
  -- You can mail Dave Parks at these addresses, or phone (313) 663-2247 --
Newsgroups: mi.news
From: lllowen@netcom.com (lllowen)
Subject: Re: Ann Arbor Dialup Numbers for The Rabbit Network 
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 01:57:27 GMT

In article <717855389snx@dojo.mi.org> sensei@dojo.mi.org (the Maniak) writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep29.032330.15157@uuhare.Rabbit.NET> liason@uuhare.Rabbit.NET
>writes:
>
>  > We will be charging $69/month  for  USENET  NEWS/E-MAIL  combined
>  > service  and  $49/month  for E-MAIL only. There will be a 3 month
>  > commitment required as well as a $75 startup fee.
>
>$50/month for email only?  <laughs>  What a bargain!  I guess with
>a price like this I should just go and sign up right away...  NOT!
>
>Why don't I just call PSI up and see what they'll charge me, since
>that's where you seem to be passing your news through?  :)

Heck, I don't mean to shut him out either, but even a um/ub account 
(mail only) from UMich. would be cheaper!
-- 

Lon Lowen Jr.                                lllowen@netcom.com
Netcom On-Line Communications
From: choang@hpb.hwc.ca
Newsgroups: ott.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [MISC] Quebec and Vietnamese
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:29:18 EDT
Organization: Health and Welfare, Canada

 	Does this mean you're going to say "No/Non" on Oct 26, 1992 ?
> Logically speaking, I would side with Trudeau, but there are other
> practical factors that soften my thinking.  I may resort to flipping
> a coin :-))  I've done that many times before :-))
 
To H.H. Nguyen

Oh please, I don't think soc-culture VN is a political net group.
Yes or No is a personal vote and it is far beyong to post.
You have been flipping many times before, here is my suggestion:
Stay away to any kind of vote in the future.
Let me remimd you that you can also be a "what so ever" candidate by
voting blank.
The debat is to save their heritage, I don't see anything that you can
"black mail" as racist in this context.
Immigrant like myself who barely know the quebec history and culture
by reading Anne Hebert litteratures or listening to Gilles Vigneault songs,
etc ...  Should not neccessary envolve into this movement.