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From:         "(The Dude)" <royald@MACE.CC.PURDUE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: John Updikes Books
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              "5971AE@GMUVAX.BITNET" at Oct 7, 92 11:02 am

5971AE@GMUVAX.BITNET writes:
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> 5971AE@gmuvax
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I've never read that one.


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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 00:32:17 EST
From:         B7SR000 <B7SR@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Writers and their lovers. Help!!

Hello, I need some assistance. For a writing project I have to write a

story from a writer's lover's point of view. For example, I would have

to take Yeats mistress, who is the subject of much of his poetry, and

write a story from her point of view. I need a good writer, lover

relationship that can be male/female, female/male, male/male, femal/fema

So, does anyone have any good writers in mind that are not too

difficult (I am being honest) to research. I was thinking of doing

Shakespeare's rumoured homosexual lover but I do not have enough

information about it. Can someone please help me either way. Thanks,

Bob Stone. Montreal, Canada.
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Subject:      John Updikes Books

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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 08:37:43 EST
From:         DZL <livewell@SIAM.ORG>
Subject:      Lovers of Writers
Comments: To: Jeremy.Hawthorn@AVH.UNIT.NO, LITERARY@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu

          I forgot to mention an affair that greatly interested me a
          few years ago--Robert Graves'long relationship with Laura
          Riding.  There is a great biography written by Graves'
          nephew Richard Perceval Graves something like _The Years
          With Laura_ which cronicles everything you'd want to know.
          Laura lived for a long while with Graves and his wife.  The
          three even attempted a suicide together--twice.  The tale
          gets weirder as it goes on.  Riding and Graves even
          collaborated on creative work, which I think is surprising
          for two difficult perfectionists. Please let us know what
          you decide on.

          Dave L.
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From: jerrett@iastate.edu (Gregory A Jerrett)
Subject: Samuel Clemens in Space
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:49:33 GMT

I enjoyed the episodes, but Samuel Clemens is one of the most sorely abused and misrepresented literary figures in history. If Clemens were around today, he
would puke at the sight of the eviscerated, national icon he has becaome.
Personally, I think that Clemens is worth study and admiration, but only
within a realistic contexrt, not this bullshit, kitsche Disney-esque image
of the "great American author".  Clemens took a very sour view of people, he
was a very bitter and disappointed person.  He was an admirable judge of
people, however, and this is what people should appreciate about him, not
what Walt Disney maged(managed) to make of him, or should I say reduce him to.

I would like to have some discussion on Clemens, I think he's worth the
bandwidth.


Greg Jerrett


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From:         "(DAVID O. TOMLINSON)" <h01024@N1.USNA.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Writers and their lovers. Help!!
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The relationship between F. Scott Fitzgerald and Sheilah Graham is both
interesting and easy to research.  She wrote about it in BELOVED INFIDEL,
easily obtainable from any library.
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:09:35 EDT
From:         "Harry Yeatts" <HYEATTS@VTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The last bug.
              8 Oct 1992 09:33:42 EDT from <441495@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA>

On Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:33:42 EDT MICHAEL STRANGELOVE said:
>
>Is there a way to determine what version/release of wpwim and windows
>one has, well within the programs?

Michael:

Under Help, press About WordPerfect...   You'll find the version number
and the release date.
Windows itself (also under Help) only gives the version number.

And by the way I've never had any of the problems you describe...except
the slowness of the program.

Harry Yeatts (HYEATTS)                INTERNET: VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:05:00 EST
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Subject:      hi i'd liike to introduce myself. my name is senija

whoops! i already got my messsage down. write back and say hi.
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:41:00 MET
From:         LEO PLUGGE <VRDP3PLU@RULIMBURG.NL>
Subject:      Re: The last bug.

Hi,

WPWin is not just 'buggy' it is also a Moloch, specifically when you like
to/must use tables and/or graphics. The thing is sooooo slow.
However, I would want to trade it in for Word4Win, because that seems to have
many problems of its own.

The real problem is that many corporations deliver 'banana software' (they let
the users find the less obvious bugs), because they can't afford to be too late
and because we users don't want to wait untill they get things straight.

Our policy here is _not_ to buy zero-release software, unless there is no
alternative.
In the WPWin case, some of us had no alternative (or was it patience?).


Leo




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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:09:38 CDT
From:         Marc Becker <MABECKER@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The last bug.

On Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:49:03 GMT Ad Aerts said:
>* The program regularly crashes with a GPE.

I occassionally get these (General Protection Errors) too, but can't figure out
what causes them.  Any ideas, or is this just the Windows 3.1 equivialent
of Windows 3.0 infamous UAEs?

MARC BECKER
UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 11:54:58 EDT
From:         Greg Schlierf <UNPATTER@SRU.BITNET>
Subject:      Clarification on Complaining

I do not want anyone to stop complaining about WPWIN. I too have problems.

My point on a previous message was to stop complaining to us and direct your
concerns to WP corp.  I want to learn from this list. WP corp wants to hear
from each user.

That is all.  My apologies if I upset anyone...I was just tired of reading
messages that should have been directed to WP CORP.

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Subject: Color Printing
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:23:12 GMT
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I have a tandy DMP 240 Color Dot Matrix Printer. With WPDOS I could
not print multi-color graphics. This printer emulates Epson, can I
do this with WPWIN. I am asking, because I would need to buy more memory
for my computer before I could load WPWIN.

Any suggestions please advise.

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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:22:00 CST
From:         "CHARLES SUNDIN, CHAIR, CHEMISTRY" <SUNDIN_C@UCS.UWPLATT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The last bug.

Note to Michael Strangelove, et.al.
  It is either your previous life or a cosmic ray hit your software.
I switch between WPDOS and WPWIN all the time with no problems.

Charles Sundin
University of Wisconsin-Platteville

SUNDIN@UWPLATT
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Subject: The last bug.
Date: 8 Oct 92 07:49:03 GMT
Organization: AA Software Support

You're not the only one with WpWin problems. Let's compare.

  > File transfer problems between wp dos and wpwin (files saved in wpwin
  > will cause wp to lockup, necessitating a reboot), I just encountered
  > another system error when simply trying to view a file, the same file
  > now has all the dot characters (4,0) changed into a vertical line
  > throughout a 160 page doc.

I have seen neither of these.  The transfer to and from WpDos seems to
work.  I tried to get WpDos to print a 100-page coursebook made with
WpWin the day before yesterday.  Works fine (faster, too).

  > The full page print preview does not display the type, only a series of
  > solid lines, text display in 12 and 10 point is incredibly poor,
  > zooming from 150% back to 50% will not work (wierd things keep
  > happening).

WpWin was written for Windows 3.0, not Windows 3.1 (with Truetype).
You aren't using Windows 3.0, are you?  Anyway, the full page print
preview should be rewritten completely - it simply isn't useful as it
is right now.  The 'regular' view is *far* better than the print
preview.  It's essentially the same as the Dos version.  I have had no
problems with zooming.

I'll sum up some of my problems, then..

* WpWin does not print text in text frames (OK, I'll use 1-cell tables then).
* WpWin doesn't print graphics correctly, unless you save them on disk 
  (if you don't, you end up with other pictures than the ones you wanted).
* I haven't been able to print the formentioned 100-page document on
  my Deskjet (Missing pictures, missing text- No problem I preint only a few
  pages at a time).
* The program regularly crashes with a GPE.
* I occasionally get 'mutilated' documents.

BTW, I use the windows printer driver (Windows 3.1).  I got the interim
version (4/30/92).  I haven't consulted WP about all this, yet.  I will
do so next week.

I still like the program.  I am willing to accept that it takes some
time to make a complicated program like WpWin real stable.  For many
problems there *are* workarounds.  I can live with user interface
problems (like to occasional 'Frame not Found'), I don't even mind the
lack of speed - but I cannot except GPE's and mutilated documents in a
program I use as much as a wordprocessor.  This is not a computer game
- Like many others I'm trying to make a living with it!

Ad.
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From: enordmoe@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric Nordmoe)
Subject: Displaying Greek Characters in WPWIN
Keywords: greek
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:47:42 GMT

My advisor recently purchased WPWIN after being a long-time user of WP for
DOS.  After one day, he decided to switch back to the DOS version as he was
unable to get WPWIN to display Greek characters (except in equation boxes)
using an extended Hercules graphics card.  I've only used the DOS version
but have read a bit about the Windows version and had never heard this bug
mentioned.  Has anyone experienced this problem?  Is there an easy
solution?

Thanks in advance,
Eric Nordmoe
Dept. of Statistics
Northwestern University
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Subject: Problems with small fonts displaying on button bar, etc...
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:08:00 GMT
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Hello all,

I am experiencing a very frusterating problem with WPWIN.  It revolves around
font sizes for the button bar, Speller, Thesaurus, and status line.  If I
add (almost any) new fonts to the FONTS under Control Panel, the above areas
of WPWIN get virtually unreadable fonts.  If I reomve all fonts except the ones
that WIN comes with, the problem goes away.

Does anyone know 1) why this happens, and 2) which fonts to avoid putting
in FONTS under Control Panel?

I am running WIN 3.1 on two machines, and this happens on both:
        486-33                                  386-33
        8 MB w/ 5 Meg perm swap                 16 MB w/ no swap
        120 MB HD                               170 MB HD
        SVGA driver                             SVGA driver


By the way, I very much like WPWIN (except for the above problems).  I have
never seen any other bug, and I do consider myslef a power user of WP (I have
used almost every function it offers).  Better WYSIWG would be nice, but I
can live with print preview for now.

Andy Langolf
Santa Clara University
Academic Computing Center
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:33:42 EDT
From:         MICHAEL STRANGELOVE <441495@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA>
Subject:      Re: The last bug.
              8 Oct 1992 08:22:00 CST from <SUNDIN_C@UCS.UWPLATT.EDU>

Yes, further work last night and this morning as revealed that the
wpwin to wp dos file movement no longer causes system failure.
Some suggested that this may have been due to shell problems (norton).

Is there a way to determine what version/release of wpwim and windows
one has, well within the programs?


Michael Strangelove
Department of Religious Studies
University of Ottawa

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Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1992 12:17:09 -0500
From:         "WILLIAM J. RAMSEY" <RAMSEY@UCBEH.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Object Linking - does it work?

Hi, sorry to hear about the problem but no, I've had no problem doing links.

Joe
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From:         LEO PLUGGE <VRDP3PLU@RULIMBURG.NL>
Subject:      Re: hi i'd liike to introduce myself. my name is senija

Hi.


Leo


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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 09:10:18 EDT
From:         Greg Schlierf <UNPATTER@SRU.BITNET>
Subject:      Dislike for WPWIN

At the risk of sounding POed. I have been reading the recent complaints
regarding WPWIN. I personally like it and would suggest that if you
do not like the product DON'T USE IT!.

I subscribed to this list to gain new ideas and to bounce ideas off of
fellow users, NOT to hear everyone bitch!

That is my 2 cents.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:07:43 EDT
From:         MICHAEL STRANGELOVE <441495@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA>
Subject:      Re: Deselecting Fonts from Ruler

Gary, I cannot get the clear button to respond -- it remains in the
shaded form that indicates that the button is not "available" --
I tried your instructions a number of times to no avail (tried that
route before as well).


Michael Strangelove
Department of Religious Studies
University of Ottawa

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From:         "Gary W. Dietz" <DIETZ@WHITMAN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Deselecting Fonts from Ruler

>I am unable to determine how to delete a font from the selection of
>fonts that are listed (once chosen) under the FONT button of the ruler
>bar.  The RULER FONTS MENU does not have a delete option.
>
>Any hints?
>
>Michael Strangelove
>Department of Religious Studies
>University of Ottawa


Michael,

  1. Get to the main FONTS menu (double click on the FONTS button on
     the ruler to get there).
  2. Click on the "ADD FONTS TO RULER" button.
  3. Highlight the font you wish to delete (in the left "window" and
     then click on the CLEAR button.  This will delete the highlighted
     font.

Gary

Gary Dietz
Whitman College
From: aerts@media02.UUCP (Ad Aerts)
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Subject: Deselecting Fonts from Ruler
Date: 8 Oct 92 07:14:08 GMT
Organization: AA Software Support


In article <WPWIN-L%92100717341900@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU> 441495@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA writes:

  > 
  > I am unable to determine how to delete a font from the selection of
  > fonts that are listed (once chosen) under the FONT button of the ruler
  > bar.  The RULER FONTS MENU does not have a delete option.
  > 

Try selecting a typeface (F9 under the CUA-keyboord), next click
'Assign font to ruler'.  You'll get a dialog box in wich you can add
and delete ruler fonts.

BTW, What version do you have? I trust you *do* have the 4/30/92 interim
release.

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From: u2414008@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
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Subject: Object Linking - does it work?
Date: 9 Oct 92 08:20:17 GMT
Organization: The University of Melbourne

I am running Windows 3.1 which includes object linking. WordPerfect for Windows
also supposedly supports this. However, I have had no success so far in pasting link
data into a WordPerfect document, either from Notepad, Windows Write or
Paintbrush. The Paste Link command is always greyed out, even when I follow the
directions in the WP manual exactly. I have also tried the Create Link command,
but this doesn't seem to work eiter. Is there anyone out there that can give me
a tip, or does this just not work at all?

Koren Mitchell
Senior Technical Officer
School of Dental Science
University of Melbourne
Parkville, Victoria
Australia
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