HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jladwig@soils.umn.edu (John Ladwig)
Subject: Re: Need public domain email list software
Reply-To: john.ladwig@soils.umn.edu
Organization: UMN Soils GIS Lab
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 16:20:11 GMT

In <1992Nov17.184407.15764@zip.eecs.umich.edu> khushro@niagara.eecs.umich.edu (Khushro Shahookar) writes:

>I need public domain software for running a mailing list, especially for
>automatic entry of new subscriber data into a database file. Any names I
>can look up on archie?

Umm.. listserv?

I am running a couple of mailing lists, one local, and one
about-to-be-public, using the current version (5.5) of Unix Listserv.
The software compiles very nicely on Sun systems, and compiles cleanly on
NeXTSTEP 2.1, although you must replace grep(1) and install cut(1) to make
it work.  I use the FSF versions, myself.

Unix-listserv is available at cs.bu.edu:/pub/listserv/

Make sure you get the fixes from the cs.bu.edu:/pub/listserv/fixes
directory in addition to the shar file distribution.

There is a mailing list running beta 6.0 code at stormking.com

>
The Unix-listserv mailinglist is available via subscription as follows:

Mail to listserv@stormking.com

In the body of the message, at the top, put the lines:

help
sub unix-listserv My Realname

This will send you the help file on the version of unix-listserv running
at stormking.com, as well as subscribe you to the list.

-Another satisfied customer

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: mike@trigon.in-berlin.de (Michael Bloch)
Subject: Informix SQL for Sun
Organization: trigon Schluechtern/Germany
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 21:08:41 GMT
Summary: BUying source for Informix SQL
Keywords: Informix Sun SQL

Can somebody recommend to me a cheap source for Informix SQL for a
Sun-Workstation under solaris. Thank you.

-- 
 Michael Bloch / Internet: mike@trigon.in-berlin.de  / Compuserve: 75530,1742
From: lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: mounting floppies as UFS?
Date: 22 Nov 92 10:18:23 GMT
Organization: cic

vickroy@skink.cis.ohio-state.edu (james michael vickroy) writes:

>Is it possible to mount the floppy drive (/dev/fd0) as a UFS on
>a Sparcstation IPX?  From what I've been able to uncover, it's
>appears that you can only mount it as a pc file system.

I couldn't believe that you can't do that. So I tried
and it works. Have you done the right things?

Here is what I did (720 K floppy):

	fdformat -fl
	newfs /dev/rfd0c
	mount /dev/fd0c /mnt
	...
	umount /mnt
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: novik@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov (Novik Dmitry)
Subject: SUN 4/330 login problem
Summary: SUN 4/330 Login problem HELP
Keywords: SUN 4/330 Login problem
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:27:13 GMT

Hello,
	On our SUN 4/330 ,it takes nearly 2 minutes to get into the
system after one types in the password. This problem strangely goes 
away after sometime(2 wks or so). This has happened 3 or 4 times already.
We are running OS 4.1.1 . This is a standalone machine. I would appreciate
very much if somebody can help me out in fixing this problem. 
Please send replies to :
raghu@lepgnc.gsfc.nasa.gov
.
From: ninja@halcyon.com (Jonathan Roy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: BSD Compat. Package under Solaris 2.x?
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:10:04 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.sun.apps
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service



Is there a BSD Compatibility Package for the Suns running under
Solaris 2.1/SunOs 5.x? We were discussing SysV in my Computer Systems
course a while back, and it seems like BSD and Xenix Compatibility
Packages were fairly common for all SysVR4 systems.

We'd like to go with a newer Sun platform, but BSD compatibility is
important. Most of our users are not programmers, and would like to be
able to compile/run most software as-is that they FTP.

Thanks for any information.

-- 
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   A   Mail faf@halcyon.com for information, or FTP to halcyon.com:  /pub/faf/
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From: jarnot@kin.lap.upenn.edu (Kevin J. Jarnot)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: avoiding Solaris
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:10:47 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, Language Analysis Center

In article <1992Nov18.014711.1654@pacdata.uucp> jimh@pacdata.uucp (Jim Harkins) writes:
> In article <15474@auspex-gw.auspex.com> guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:
> >I also suspect fewer "engineers, scientists, and assorted techies" than
> >some folks think actually care that much about BSD vs. SV;
> 
> I don't think the "engineers, scientists, and assorted techies" have as much
> to do about it as the sys admins. 


That is unless you are an "engineer, scientist, or assorted techie"
that is ALSO sys admin, like myself... ;-)

I personally can't see myself making "the big leap" to Solaris until
it's made a necessity by lack of support and/or a purchase of a newer
Sun box.  Then again, the shell script porting problem has been nearly
eliminated here since I have converted most of our system
administration scripts to Perl...unless Mr. Wall makes any significant
changes to Perl, that is...



Kevin

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Univ. of Pennsylvania Language Analysis Center  |  
3700 Market St, Suite 202  Phila, PA 19104      |       "Vita Non Jerk"
From: kevin@sherman.pas.rochester.edu (kevin mcfadden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: xvnews compilation problem
Date: 24 Nov 92 01:28:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rochester


    Sorry to bother you with what might be a trivial question but
I have exhausted my knowledge of how to fix this problem.

I am getting the following error at the end of compilation:

ld: -lxview: No such file or directory
*** Error code 4
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `xvnews'
Current working directory /u/irstaff/kevin/Downloads/xvnews
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all'

I have checked my ld path and it is:

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/applic/nir/sun4/openwin/lib:/applic/nir/sun4/devguide/lib:
    /usr/openwin/include/xview:/usr/lib:/usr/openwin/lib

I have also tried editing the makefile to include the pathname of the
the xview libraries.

All this is attempting to be done on a sparc 1+ w/ ow3.


Thanks for any help,

Kevin

Please email responses to kevin@sherman.pas.rochester.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Subject: Re: Sun clone won't drop DTR?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:05:50 GMT

scott@DSG.Tandem.COM (Scott Hazen Mueller) writes:
: 
: I'm having an odd problem with an OPUS (Sparc-alike) running SunOS 4.1.x.
: I've got a Worldblazer modem on ttyb set to reset when DTR drops, but it is
: not resetting, and to all appearances DTR is never dropping.  Now, this is
: probably just a configuration goof somewhere, but I'm not sure where...
: 
: What I have done:
: 
:    created ttyb as 12, 1 and cua1 as 12, 129;
:    ttysoftcar -n /dev/ttyb;
:    ttysoftcar -n /dev/cua1;
:    set the modem to at&d3;
:    tried adding :hc: to the gettytab;
:    tried stty 0 >/dev/ttyb;
:    tried RTFM.
: 
On Sun systems only devices whose minor number is 128 or below
have the capability to drop dtr. Do an ls -l on your /dev/tt* files
If the second # listed where the file size usually is is above 128
subtract 128 from the minor number and find the device that uses
that major/minor combo. This is the name of the same device that
will drop dtr.

--
Mary E. S. Morris    |  The future exists first in imagination, then
mesm@netcom.COM      |  in will, then in reality. -- Galivan Burwell
=====================================================================
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: igb@fulcrum.co.uk (Ian G Batten)
Subject: Re: avoiding Solaris
Organization: Fulcrum Communications
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:23:59 GMT

In article <15497@auspex-gw.auspex.com> guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:
> 	"MVS - now *there's* an operating system!";

Multics - now *there's* an operating system!

ian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: dav@gtc.com (David L. Markowitz)
Subject: Re: how to copy boot-tapes
Organization: Genisco Technology Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:18:23 GMT

thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) writes:

>Get my tprobe program from the comp.sources.3b1 archives.  It's the only
>program that will copy the boot tapes properly.

As the author of tapecv, I take exception to that remark.  There are
many programs floating around with the capability to copy boot tapes,
including tapecv and copytape.

Each has its own advantages; for example tapecv requires no disk space,
but instead requires two tape drives, either of which may be remote
across the network.

Copytape (I believe) requires only one drive, but requires enough disk
space to store the entire tape.

Tapecv is not in any current FTP archive site I know of, but if someone
would volunteer to archive it I would be happy to send it to them.

-- 

	David L. Markowitz
	Solaris Systems Division - Genisco Technology Corporation
	dav@gtc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: dsc@leo.DIALix.oz.au (D. Scott-Courtland (Contractor))
Subject: TCP/IP over Decnet
Reply-To: dsc@leo.DIALix.oz.au
Organization: Western Mining Corp.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 13:12:17 GMT

G'Day from Sunny W.A.

	Probably not the right place, but I'm interested if anybody has any knowledge
	of any products that do this. WMC has dozens of remote sites running TCP/IP
	internally and all interconnected to VAXEN. We have to use kiNET to talk
	between them , and I have managed to get a secure email transmission 
	using dnamail, but would like to be able to get X and other things to
	work across the gulf...

	Dave.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: jens@abo.fi (Jens Granlund DC)
Subject: format.dat entry for Fujitsu-2694SA
Organization: Abo Akademi University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 08:44:28 GMT


I need a format .dat entry for a Fujitsu-2694SA drive.
Anyone have the info?

Jens Granlund
Abo Akademi University
Computing Centre
jens@abo.fi
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: matt@gbrmpa.gov.au (Matt Crowd)
Subject: Problems with SunOS4.1.3 and Annex terminal server
Organization: Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:49:19 GMT

Hi,
	I'm not sure if the SunOS upgrade has caused this problem
but it's highly likely. We have an Annex Terminal Server (16 port)
with boots from the Sun Sparc 2(sunos413) using tftp. The terminal
server recieves the boot file o.k.

Now from any host on the net, including the boot host we can no longer
telnet to the server, connection refused is all i can get out of it!
Although it's in the arp table and also responds to ping o.k.

None of our gateways info has changed, nor name server files, so I have
absolutely no idea whats going wrong?

Can anyone help?

regards,
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From: Thomas.Weihrich@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Thomas Weihrich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Solaris 2.x: resistance to it?
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:03:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: arbi.1992Nov18.141013.22833
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany

vincent@cad.gatech.edu (Vincent Fox) writes:

>I know that around Tech, we have had Solaris for some weeks now as part
>of the University ScholarPack. Talking to the lady who checks out
>the software, seems like no one is checking it out. I personally don't
>want to move to an OS that is that different and may break all my
>existing software. Not to mention a slight bias for Berzerkely.
>I am wondering if this is an instance of other folks feeling the
>same way and avoiding the upgrade?

Yes, at Augsburg University folks are not moving to Solaris 2.x.
We could have gotten it for free (Software maintenance contract), but we
will not renew the contract and run SunOS 4.1.2 instead.
Sun's new products aren't an option anyway, because we cannot run SunOS
4.1.? on them. So I guess we'll be using the Sun machines until they
break apart and then move to a different vendor (probably DEC).

Thomas Weihrich
Thomas.Weihrich@CC.Uni-Augsburg.DE
Thomas.Weihrich@WWWA.ORG
Thomas.Weihrich@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE
From: mark@spider.co.uk (Mark Valentine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Question Regarding Solaris RTU Licensing
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:40:33 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK

In article <1992Nov19.133756@siisun.epfl.ch> brossard@sic.epfl.ch writes:
>  Sun machines as delivered come with a RTU of two users.  If you add
>Xterminal, one may assume that each one represents one more user of
>the server hence, one more RTU to buy.  The fact that this is not
>enforced by the OS doesn't change the legal aspect of it.

*My* sun rep carefully explained to me that I only needed additional RTUs for
users connected via direct serial lines.  Ptys are free!  I assumed that the
logic behind this is that network users must already be sat at a SPARCstation
for which they already have a licence...

		Mark.
-- 
Mark Valentine, Spider Systems <mark@spider.co.uk>            /\oo/\
"Tigers will do ANYTHING for a tuna fish sandwich."
"We're kind of stupid that way."
From: cm@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (Charles Meo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: avoiding Solaris
Date: 16 Nov 1992 11:01:59 +1100
Organization: Solbourne Computer Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au

>In article <1dtssaINN59p@life.ai.mit.edu> cracraft@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Stuart Cracraft) writes:

>>There will always remain a large group of SUN users who feel Berkeley
>>Unix were the last "good" days. 

I have to admit a preference for BSD-derived systems myself but I'm afraid
the dead hand of government is pushing SVR4 along and not much will stop it.

Had Berkely given more thought to a sensible system administration interface
(and I'm not saying SVR4 has one, mind you!) this situation need never have
happened, since the the substance of all the criticisms of old-style UNIX
is that the machines are too damned hard to run.

Unfortunately, IMHO the way SVR4 is being marketed you'd think that people
no longer need anyone in their datacentre who knows what they are doing--
anyone who thinks running a 600-user supermini will be as easy as running a PC
in the brave new world is in for a nasty shock.

There are too many black boxes in SVR4--people who do know what they are 
doing cannot enforce intelligent configuration decisions even if they know what
they are. This seems stupid to me. Lots of the config parameters are
undocumented, many more are 'Oh, you don't mess with that, ...  will break'
It boils down to about six things you can usefully mess around with.
Nobody is going to tell me that an OS designed to run from PCs to mainframes
is always going to use the right strategies, and can do a better job than
an experienced admin who knows his/her hardware and workload. And yet it's
pretty much a case of, if it doesn't do what you want out of the shrinkwrap,
tough.

Also, I would have to say that I have found ATT to be somewhat unresponsive,
shall we say, to bug reports and fixes emanating from organisations who have 
had to deal with (sometimes very imaginatively broken) earlier releases
of System V. There is no indication that this will change. 

Anyone from Bell Labs care to respond? In fact, I am willing to be persuaded
on this issue. Anyone at all been able to do anything outstanding with SVR4?

Chuck
-- 
Chuck Meo
Solbourne Computer Australia
cm@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
'SYS5R4: One Size Fits Nobody'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: jtcox@syr.edu (Ted Cox)
Subject: modem, OpenWindows 3
Keywords: modem question
Reply-To: jtcox@syr.edu
Organization: Syracuse University.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 11:21:39 EST

I have recently installed a modem on my Sparc 2 running 4.1.2 and 
OpenWindows 3, following instructions in the manualS.  I can dial in okay,
and I can dial out provided I am *not* in a command (or shell) tool in
OpenWindows.  That is,
	tip cua0
connects me with my modem if I run it from the "bare" unix prompt, but
results in
	all ports busy
from within OpenWindows.  Can anyone help me fix this?

Thanks in advance,
Ted Cox

Ted Cox
jtcox@gumby.syr.edu
From: exudnw@exu.ericsson.se (Dave Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: CG3 on 600MP?
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:35:27 GMT
Reply-To: exudnw@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

Anyone know why a CG3 frame buffer won't work on a 600MP system?  I know
that cg6's are shipped with them, but why?

---
= exudnw@exu.ericsson.se                                                =
= David Williams              "You can't win, you can't break even,     =
= Ericsson Network Systems     and you can't quit"                      =
= Richardson, TX 75081                                  my opinions...  =
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: fu@teal.csn.org (Joe Fu)
Subject: Novell Netware Sun Server
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:54:44 GMT


I am in the beginning of investigating the possibility of running
Novell Netware on Sun Unix workstation.  Can anyone give me the
answer of following questions?

	a. Novell has announced this product, how mature of thie
	   product is? How many application can run under this
	   Novell Netware on Sun server?
	b. Which Novell server should be selected? PC 486 or Sun
	   Sparc from the price and the performance point of view.
	c. Does Sun have any plan for this Novell Netware connectivity
	   to Unix server? If there is, what is the current status?
	d. Does one get more benefits if the Sun server is chosen
	   for Netware?

If anyone has installed this Sun server for Netware software and has
any other comments, please inform me also. Thanks for your kind
assitance.

Joe Fu

e-mail: fu@csn.org
From: pla_kbh@sld60pki-nbg.philips.de (Kurt Behnke (TEAM SOS))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Sun Ethernet cards
Keywords: Ethernet address
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:48:18 GMT
Reply-To: user@pki-nbg.philips.de
Organization: Philips Communication Systems, Nuernberg, Germany


Hi there,

On two of our Sun (Sparc 2) WS we have installed an additional Ethernet 
controller (le1; the onboard controller is le0). The purpose is to try 
some OSI protocols on a small network, and not to interfere with the usual
IP traffic on the standard LAN.
When booting, the Sun OS takes the Ethernet address from le0, and assigns it
to le1, so that both have the same address. This even applies if le0 is
not connected. Since we want to use the second
net for some different kind of traffic the following questions arise:

i) Is this assignment valid for ARP/IP only, or can I also use it for protocols 
like LLC1/2?

ii) Is there any way to read the original Ethernet address, encoded in le1, 
by a program, using ioctl()s etc., or can it be retrieved by some 
administrative tool?

iii) If i) and ii) have a negative answer, what can I do if I don't know
the 'native' address of le1?

Sorry for my ignorance. Any  f l a m in g  replies send directly to 
my e-mail address please.

Greetings,
		KB
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: css@tron.stx.com (Chris Shenton)
Subject: How to autorebuild yp data in response to yppasswd?
Organization: Hughes/STX, Lanham, MD
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:27:35 GMT

I've been asked to set up a couple Suns and am having problems getting
the rpc.yppasswdd to automatically rebuild the yp maps after a user
changes his/her info with a yppasswd command. The manual and manpages
conflict in how to set this up and none of the permutations I have
tried work.

Both indicate I need add startup of rpc.yppasswdd in /etc/rc.local,
and add the `-m' flag to automatically re-make in the /var/yp
directory from the source passwd file which I keep in /var/etc/passwd.
Here's my attempt -- with flames -- any ideas?  

Thanks.



From /etc/rc.local:

# Change and update the NIS passwd information in response to
# yppasswd request. This should update the /var/etc/passwd source
# then cause an automatic make in the /var/yp directory. It could
# assume the /var/yp/Makefile explicitely defines the DIR to point to
# our passwd source directory, /var/etc/passwd. Otherwise, we should be
# able to specify it by saying ``DIR=/var/etc'' after the `-m'.
#
# Unfortunately, it does *NOT* and the paper manual and online manpage
# conflict, and neither cause the automatic make. They do, however,
# update the /var/etc/passwd file, but that becomes out of sync with
# the /var/yp data, so further changes become impossible due
# to invalid passwords. Why no update??

if [ -f /usr/etc/rpc.yppasswdd -a -d /var/yp/$dname ]; then
      rpc.yppasswdd /var/etc/passwd -m DIR=/var/etc ; echo -n ' rpc.yppasswdd'
fi


--
-- Chris Shenton        css@tron.stx.com        Hughes/STX 301-794-5490
From: MikeSummers@cup.portal.com (Michael - Summers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: X client clean-up when X server goes away?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 07:31:47 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

I have Mac user's running MacX 1.1.7 accessing an application on a
SPARCserver, is there anyway to know when the server side has disappeared
so that the client can clean-up any leftover application processes and
then quit?

Thanks, Mike.
From: tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: SPARCprinter page counts
Date: 18 Nov 1992 00:39:58 -0500
Organization: P.L.T.S., North Plainfield, New Jersey, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: plts.uucp

While we're talking about SPARCprinters, is there an easy way to get it
to NOT reverse the page order?

Reversing the pages takes HUGE amounts of disk space.

My users would be happy to click on "reverse page order" (or equiv.) if
it meant faster printing.  Luckily, all the software that we use to
generate long printouts has such a feature.  The few that don't usually
print short documents, and users can learn to shuffle the pages :-)

Tom
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"Higgy higgy forward, higgy forward, higgy forward, higgy shake.  Yeeaaah!"
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