HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lb04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Laura Bassi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Personal to Joseph Hack
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:43:49 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1dpm4iINNsnm@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jose
ph Hack) writes:
>
>
>What makes you think the net is supposed to be productive?  What do we
>produce except for lots of discussion?  Oh, I guess you could call the

you don't get it, do you Joey?

>Nothing more, nothing less. Shit, I'm rambling again.  sorry.

that's not all...you really don't get it, do you Joseph?

>Bill, I think you are taking this way too seriously.  Take a step back.
>Take another step back.  Good.  Now take a deep breath.  Repeat after
>me.  These are not real people out here.  They are only phosphor dots
>on the screen in front of me.  Any resemblance to any real humans is
>only in your imagination.

now i know you are essentially clueless, joe-joe, i feel sorry for ya, kid...
signed,
a real person (virtually real, anyway ;)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: tnf@well.sf.ca.us (David Gans)
Subject: Re: GD hour in D.C.
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:30:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.191902.9582@seas.gwu.edu> louray@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Panayiotakis) writes:
>Does anyone know what happened to the Greatful Dead hour in Washington, D.C.
>It used to be on DC 101 at 10:30 pm on sundays, but it wasn't there yesterday.

I got a letter from DC-101 yesterday, informing me of the cancellation.  No
reason was given.  My business manager will contact them and I'll let you
know what we learn.

Meanwhile, please call and write and fax the station in great numbers!  Be
polite, be insistent, be multitudinous!

-- 

	David Gans	tnf@well.sf.ca.us
			{apple,pacbell,hplabs,ucbvax}!well!tnf
From: max@hitl.washington.edu (Max Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Veneta refund *finally* arrives...
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:06:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: frabjous.MAX.92Nov9110615
Organization: /home/max/.organization

In article <1992Nov5.212027.11453@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> reb@ingres.com (Phydeaux) writes:

   Well, my Veneta refund finally arrived today.  Apparantly they
   got confused when I sent back more tickets than I had purchased --
   even though I enclosed a note telling them who the original purchaser
   was, etc. Anyone else still waiting?


	I finally called them last week because I hadn't received my
refund.

	They said the delay was because I hadn't sent back all the
tickets.   I told them that I had sold some of them, and the guy refused
to send back the tix, mostly because he was afraid he wouldn't get them
back.  I've assured him that he would, but he doesn't care (he's a bit
of a bonehead with, I guess, money to burn).

	Anyway, the dead office said they needed to know his name,
to see whether he'd returned the tickets seperately or not.  When
they saw that he hadn't, I asked to have the money sent to me and I
would refund the other guy's money.  They said, "Oh, no, we're refunding
tickets only - we'll only send back for the tickets you sent in."

	This is fine by me, and what I would have expected all along.
My only question is, if they are only refunding tickets, what was
the holdup in sending mine back, or yours, reb?  I don't really
understand this, but have pretty much decided to let it pass.  If this
happened a lot, though, I'd like to have a better understanding about
why...

Curious,

Max
From: zi5j@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Box of Rain: Who's the high voice?
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:19:27 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

Hey folks-
	I was just listening to American Beauty via headphones while mounting
ants (yup, mounting ants) this morning and I noticed an extremely high voice
on Box Of Rain that hadn't clicked in my conscious before. Is this Jerry
singing falsetto or is it actually a female singer? I don't remember there
being anyone else on the credits, but who nose? Thanks for any input...
zack
From: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com (Jeff Lester)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Temp extras
Date: 10 Nov 92 03:25:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Nov10.032530.835
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet

Some friends and I had crossed channels and ended up with a number of
extra GA tickets for both Compton Terrace shows. email me if you are 
interested.

-Jeff Lester
lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: jff@osf.org (James Fournier)
Subject: Re: Good Bluegrass CD's
Keywords: Bluegrass
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution:  world
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:27:35 GMT

Any album by or with Norman Blake.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Playin and Playin
From: jlovkay@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 10 Nov 92 12:49:56 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <74227@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt0021c@prism.gatech.EDU (Chris Edward Perkins) writes:

> Playin -> Drumz -> Playin
> encore: Shakedown Street
> 
> total time: 97 minutes
> 
> I don't know, maybe I'm sick or something, but I've never heard a Playin
> that lasted long enough, that seemed to have exhausted all of its
> possibilities as they presented themselves at that place and and time, that
> didn't leave me wanting to rewind the tape or return in time to somewhere
> near the beginning and do it all over again...
> 

I had a friend with a nice audio setup, and he took for me Led Zeps Dazed &
Confused, and towards the end of some jammin somehow brought the jam back into
it, fading out the end as he faded in the beginning, did it a couple times and
I ended up with an endless loop (which was difficult to notice until the third
time through and then only if you were _really_ paying attention non-stop) that
made for a GREAT tape ! 

Anyway, I'd love the same with a number of the Dead's jams, maybe merging in
and out of different time periods the jam between Chinacat Sunflower & I Know
You Rider For Instance ! Or Birdsong :) 

Then again, turn off the stereo, get comfy, close your eyes and let your memory
fill your mind with the sounds of the all jams you can fit at one time !

Jim (still D&C ;)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: hbpeltz@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Harry Peltz)
Subject: A Top Ten List That Won't Make It On Letterman (maybe)
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 11:05:50 EST

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: A Top Ten List That Won't Make It On Letterman (maybe)
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Keywords: 



I am a Broadcast Journalism major, and on a spur of procrastination
one night I came up with this:


Top Ten Reasons Why Press Conferences Are Like Dead Shows

10. Everybody knows one another.
9. Everyone reviews notes of previous occasions.
8. Reserved seating.
7. People try to feel they are special to the performer.
6. Both have taping sections, and EVERYBODY wants a copy.
5. Both have people who follow the performer around wherever they 
go.
4. Both keep indexes on what happened.
3. People try to review the event like they know what they are 
talking about.
2. People compare the event to previous ones like it.
	and the number one reason why Press Conferences are like 
Dead Shows.....
1. In both, attendees hope for things to happen that never do.

finally, the main (if only) distinction between Press Conferences and 
Dead Shows...

For Press Conferences, people are paid to attend and summerize.
For Dead Shows, people pay to attend and socialize.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: A Top Ten List That Won't Make It On Letterman (maybe)
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Keywords: 



I am a Broadcast Journalism major, and on a spur of procrastination
one night I came up with this:


Top Ten Reasons Why Press Conferences Are Like Dead Shows

10. Everybody knows one another.
9. Everyone reviews notes of previous occasions.
8. Reserved seating.
7. People try to feel they are special to the performer.
6. Both have taping sections, and EVERYBODY wants a copy.
5. Both have people who follow the performer around wherever they 
go.
4. Both keep indexes on what happened.
3. People try to review the event like they know what they are 
talking about.
2. People compare the event to previous ones like it.
	and the number one reason why Press Conferences are like 
Dead Shows.....
1. In both, attendees hope for things to happen that never do.

finally, the main (if only) distinction between Press Conferences and 
Dead Shows...

For Press Conferences, people are paid to attend and summerize.
For Dead Shows, people pay to attend and socialize.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: GIBBS%MIDD.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Subject: bias current adjustment
Reply-To: GIBBS%MIDD.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 17:02:25 GMT

Frank Caherty writes:
|If there is enough interest I could write upa couple procedures for
|bias current adjustment....

7.3% interest, compounded daily. :-) Actually, I have 100% interest
in learning more about this. Can it help people with tired out low-tech
tape decks too, to do a bis adjustment? And thanks for describing dolby
in understandable language.\<=bias|

                                neurons whirlin',
                                         turtlehead
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:57:20 -0500 
From: Ken_Ziolkowski@transarc.com
Subject: Fwd: Good Bluegrass CDs


---------- Forwarded message begins here ----------

From: Frank Caherty <caherty@wizard.nrl.navy.mil>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:07:18 GMT
Reply-To: caherty@wizard.nrl.navy.mil
Organization: The Internet

Jim Fournier :
|Any album by or with Norman Blake.

seconded !  Also if you can find them _records_ by a band
called Hickory Wind, used to play around DC back in the days
of the Red Fox Inn (now a parking lot).  Sam Morgan still
shows up at folk festivals and the like.  Hot, hot stuff.

Also:  The Country Gentlemen, anything with Mike Auldridge...

------------------------------------------------------------

 I also recommend:

  Any early stuff by The Dilliards - these were the guys
   who played The Darlins on the old Andy Griffith Show.

   Classic stuff but hard to find.

  Alison Krause - her last 2 CD's are excellent. They are
   "I've got that old feeling" and "Every time you say
    goodbye".

    She only 21 years old and has been playing since she
    was 5.

  The Johnson Mountain Boys - their "Live at the Old School
   House" won, I believe, a Grammy 2 years ago.

Ken
From: rademaew@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Witches for Jesus.....?
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:19:30 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

A few random thoughts at random:

1) The main reason I wrote this: I thought it not possible, but I have seen
it at least twice now in Cincinnati (if not for school, the last place on earth
a Deadhed would find him or herself) -- Two stickers side BY side

GRATEFUL DEAD     BUSH/QUAYLE  '92

similar sighting have occurred in Pittsburgh (here come the Pittsburgh flames)

Reminds me of a comment by someone (Wharfie, I think, but I'm sure someone will
remind me if I'm wrong) earlier this year that went something like:

DEADHEDS FOR BUSH is like  WITCHES FOR JESUS  :) :) :) :) :)  


2) Thanx for the clarification: Sounds of The Dead have filled the VP
mansion before thanx to the Mondales and have filled the VP grounds thanx
to the military! A number of people set me straight on this and I must say
I enjoyed the stories!

3) Thank you to all who restrained from wasting your time POSTING response 
to "Better Dead..." Fill his mailbox, but save the summer from happening all
over again. Good work, folks :)



!eric!

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: small wheel turn by the fire and rod
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 19:08:54 GMT


BIG wheel turn by the grace of God
From: bowman@reed.edu (BoBoRamDos)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Garcia One From the Vault?
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:37:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Nov11.193723.1615
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

A local record store employee told a friend of mine a new vault release of
Legion of Mary (Garcia, Saunders, Fiero, others?) may be coming out soon.
He made it sound like it was already happening....

Can anyone confirm this?  Mr. Gans?

Thanks,
bobo & fed
bowman@reed.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: Joe Hack is Back
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 16:46:25 GMT

In article <1dmqcnINNp9d@morrow.stanford.edu> EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara) writes:
>see, todd, i TOLD you that you hadn't missed much :)
> 

It's good to know some things remain constant:-) :-) :-)


>
>wait a minute, i just noticed this above the .sig.  you mean to say
>that THERE'S MORE TO LIFE THAN BEING DEAD!!!!!!
>
>no, say it ain't so joe !
>
>unless, of course, you mean, like sunsets, and eagles riding on the
>thermals, listening to your children laugh, strolling on the beach,
>sharing deep philosophical thoughts with friends?  like a very fine
>merlot, how it feels when you slam a really good spike and score for
>your team, the smile in a friend's eyes and soul?  like hearing the
>rain and thunder and feeling very small and insignificant in the
>face of it all, breathing fresh air, stuff like that?
>
>oh, in that case, i get it :)
>

You got it, this is what comes from sitting under the prime juniper
tree and viewing REAL life for six days:-):-):-)

It's such a vast varied world out there, sad to think some restrict
themselves to such a small segment of it, it, I got IT, way back :-)
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>TODD|-ODD-|:-)                   |         Nothing Left To Do But  <
>brown@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu  /|\             :-) :-) :-)        <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/ | \<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: sjeck@isi.com (Steve -- The Other One)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: a Wheelie responds
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:50:47 GMT
Reply-To: sjeck@isi.com
Organization: The Internet


This message was posted to the Wheel.  It is a member's response
to the public resignation of a member.  i have no idea if this
is a majority or minority opinion, but this is the kind of thing 
one will see if you get an invitation to join the Wheel:

--------------------------------------

policy #233: xxx yyyyy (zzzzzzz) Mon, 9 Nov 92 16:23:56 CST

   Mr. aaa bbbbbb, if the Wheel pissed you off so damned much and
   compromised your fucking honor and all, why didn't you just go
   off and form alt.sweetness_and_fucking_light and leave us the hell
   alone?

   Mr. aaa bbbbbb, you are a person with no honor and less sense.  You're
   lower than a snake's belly in a wagon rut.  Not only have you broken
   promises and betrayed friends, you've baselessly spoken evil of others
   who've never done you any harm at all.

   Me, for instance.  You call me a liar, and boy, that really made me mad.
   Got those old macho reflexes jerking all over the place...  Where I come
   from them's fightin' words, pal.  And you're willing to cause all this ill-
   will out of some psychotic self-righteousness.  As if everyone's resources
   belong to everyone, just because it's _fair_  Does fair pay for my phone
   bills, or mer's ??

   Mr. aaa bbbbbb, in my eyes you've forfeited any claim to treatment as
   a decent human being.  You cannot be trusted.  The curse of Ghu upon you.

   That being said, the best thing we could do would be to just continue the
   Wheel and ignore any and all public controversy.  I *do* think we should
   change the way people get added, but if I interpret mer's announcement
   correctly, that's a moot point.  Ah well, another great idea returned to
   dust, the victim of...human imperfection... ?

   I think I'm gonna give up on telecom entirely.  I've had it with these
   damn soap-operas everywhere I turn.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Jeff Lester <lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com>
Subject: Re: Terrapin Tapes Phone Number?
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:20:24 GMT

|What is Terrapin Tapes phone number?  Thanks, -d

             TERRAPIN TAPES
             1-800-677-8650


-Jeff Lester
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re: "Won't Get Fooled Again" and other assorted ramblings
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 16:46:23 GMT

In article <184220@pyramid.pyramid.com> glambert@pyramid.com (George Lambert) writes:
>There have been some truly marvelous postings of late, folks, and those in
>the Wheel who stiil dip their toes in these waters have some idea of what
>the others have been missing out on.  The Cassady - Kerouac pieces are 
>truly priceless, and well worth wading through whatever chaff exists in the
>mind of the reader.  Bill Moore is an exceptionally funny individual, Joe
>Hack actually keyed in well on the satire he claims to be portraying, eagle
>is the best thing for stream of consciousness since Dylan (Thomas, that is),
>Lara deserves net.goddess status for her kindness, Gail Edwards provides
>us with very charming and wonderful anecdotes on her life and prods many to
>share theirs.  There are many, many others, so don't feel slighted if
>you're not mentioned.

Thanks George, but damn, that makes me self-conscious! :-)
And let's not forget the always pleasant and good natured
George Lambert. A few other names which come to my mind are
George Lambert, among many others. Joe D., Laura B., Barb L.,
the list goes on... virtual friends are different than real
friends, but virtual friends are real in a way. The net has almost
always been flourishing for those of us who can pick out what we want
to read and get into. To this day.

That's all for now,
Bill
From: glambert@pyramid.com (George Lambert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Miserable netheads {)=+)
Date: 11 Nov 92 00:46:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Pyramid Technology

In article <1dpf2eINNget@morrow.stanford.edu> EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara) writes:
>
> ... and the fact that i'm not on this list ... does it mean that
>i'm not really a .net.goddess after all?  i shall go slash my
>monitor cable, farewell, cruel world !
>

If I may be so bold, Lara...

For your consistency in providing good will, good vibes, and for your constant
execution of healing energies, I hereby nominate you to the exalted position
of net.goddess!

It's well deserved, so please slap a bandaid on that monitor cable!  :-)

George Lambert

"Spanish Lady come to me, she lays on me this rose,
It rainbows fire 'round and 'round, it trembles and explodes"
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: thompson@glueball.hep.nd.edu ()
Subject: Re: Post Dead
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:24:14 GMT

GLADSTONE@csmcmvax.bitnet writes:
>noticed:  after leaving a Dead show we are on cloud nine.  Turning on the
>radio and listening to any other sort of MuZak actually proves painful
>to the ears and mind.  One consistent exception is FZ.  He seems to be

Most any jazz is good (esp. Miles,Coltrane,any of the Marsalises,Sonny
Rollins, etc.).  Also good is Peter Gabriel, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell.
These help to keep the mood fairly well.

If a contrast is desired, some alternative (or whatever you want to call
it) might be nice (although i've never tried it).  I'm thinking of bands
like Pixies and Cocteau Twins.

dave

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From: jonnyk@geriatrix.cs.uoregon.edu (Jonathan Dennis Kirshbaum)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Merl Saunders Question
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:35:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Nov13.173502.21125
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.

In article <74647@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt0021c@prism.gatech.EDU (Chris Edward Perkins) writes:
>Merl and his band are coming to Atlanta in a few weeks, and I was hoping
>someone out there might have some info on this tour. [more stuff deleted]

I saw Merl here in Eugene and then drove to Portland to see the band
again. They are out of hand!  They play a lot of the old classic songs
that Jerry has been in on over the years, Freeway, The System, etc.
They did play blues from the rainforest, but it was song, and
they made it fun by handing out little percussion devices for folks in
the audience to play along with.  I seriously recommend them to anyone
who has a jones to dance.  It's really great stuff.

Jon
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re: The dead arent deadheads...
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 19:46:28 GMT

In article <32855@goofy.Apple.COM> eroth@Apple.COM (Rico) writes:
>
>ken@venus.odetics.com writes:
>->... Bill, Bob, Jerry, and Phil have attended
>->EVERY Grateful Dead concert there ever was ....
>Well, I know a guy who claims to have seen the dead withOUT
>Garcia (yeah, I know, oxymoron).  Would have been in the
>'72-'76 time frame.  Something about certain legal
>difficulties, and they couldn't habeas the corpus in time for
>the show.  Anybody know about this?

Nope, but in 1981 (5-12?) they did an acoustic
nukular disarmament benefit with John Kahn on
bass instead of Phil. I don't know why. Great
tape.

Bill
From: irwin@earth.njit.edu (Scott F Skiba)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: BackStage Pass Query
Date: 8 Nov 92 18:30:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

I'm curious as if anyone knows where the ending Jam, when the credits are
displayed,  on the  Backstage Pass video is from. Jerry's using the midi
technology on his guitar to emulate a flute-like instrument, but i cannot
discern whether its Brent's or Welnick\Hornsby duo on piano to at least
hammer down a more precise date. My guess is that it's from a concert 
within the 90-92 timeframe which covers a bit of ground as well.

As an aside, I thought Justin did an excellent job putting things together
in a rather eclectic-collage from past to present (i.e Brent, Pigpen etc..)
. Any comments are welcome along these lines.

Regards,

Scott F SKiba 
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