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From: RC1DSANU@MIAMIU.BITNET (Ryan Collins)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: DYNs for "Halloween Special" and "Itchy & Scratchy The Movie"
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:09:09 GMT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

In article <Jym.6Nov1992.1327@naughty-peahen>, jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer)
says:
>
>=o= Didja notice...
>
>* Halloween Special
>* Itchy & Scratchy The Movie
>   ...that the voice of Sulu sounded exactly like George
>      Takei's?  ("They didn't use their real names, but you
>      could tell it was them!")
 
Actually, when George Takei was on the Simpsons (The one where Homer ate the
poisoned fish) they put his name in the credits. The line that Lisa used
was in reference to Dustin Hoffman and Michael Jackson appearing on the
Simpsons and not using their real names.
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From: wagenfuh@huey.udel.edu (Karl Wagenfuehr)
Subject: Re: I&S--TM (11/3/92)
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:04:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.223121.9798@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> canderso@nyx.UUCP (Chuck Anderson) writes:
>> bwatson@nyx.cs.du.edu (bruce watson) writes:
>>> colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten) writes:
>>>> STOLLER@dickinson.edu (Stoller, Richard) writes:
>>>> Among other gems, note that when Bart (or as it Homer?) watches a
>>>> "screaming Mexican soap opera," he gets a clownish guy in a sort
>>>> of grasshopper costume...
>>>There's a guy in a bug suit on XUXA's show - is there a connection,
>>>or do they have a common origin?  Is there some kind of significance
>>>to guys in bug suits in Latino culture?
>>Like you, I've been watching too much TV. I wonder how many readers
>>of this newsgroup know who XUXA is.
>I wonder how many can *say* XUXA.
>
I wonder how many have DONE Xuxa?

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From: dsimon@informix.com (Don Simon)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Episode guide-- C+
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:47:58 GMT
Reply-To: dsimon@informix.com
Followup-To: alt.tv.simpsons
Organization: Informix Software

In article 1deg6rINNjmh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, aa716@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Fields) writes:
>
>>I think your criticism isn't justified, unless you volunteer to do better 
>>than Mark...... In that case first do it .........and than you'll criticize
>>his work.
>
>Let me get this straight, you're not allowed to criticize something
>until you've first successfully attempted that which you're criticizing? 
>So you can't criticize a movie until you've made a movie  And you can't
>criticize a restaurant's lasagna until you've made lasagna.  And you can't
>criticize the president's actions until you've taken such actions yourself.
>Do you see how ridiculous this is yet?
>
>>I take the occasion to thank Mark.
>
>As I said before, I don't begrudge Mark the amount of work he's obviously
>and thoughtfully done.  I just wish he'd been a little more careful with
>the wording.
>
>Is that such blasphemy to suggest?


Yeah, but all of your examples get paid for the work they are doing, they are
profesionals, and as such have a certain level of minimum competence which we can
assume, Mark doesn't get paid for his work, he's doing it as a favor to all of 
us...if you don't like it, I don't think anyone here really cares, *unless* you
intend to prove that you can do better.


have a nice day,


don
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: My Two Cents (canadian) (fwd)
Date: 11 Nov 1992 15:38:28 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

> this may be obscure, but in haloween III, when I heard " is this the end
> of zombie Shakespeare?" it put me in mind of the last scene of Little
> Ceasar when Edward G. Robinson said (and I quote):-)
> 
> Mother of Mercy, is this the end of Rico? or am I just an obsessive dweeb?

 I'm really surprised that no one has anything abot this line...It
seems as if it is *some* sort of reference, but I couldn't locate the
original. (I assume that the "dweeb" bit is the author's addition??)

Steve
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: naran@fraser.sfu.ca (Travers Naran)
Subject: Re: Marge gets a Job - MISC
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:07:40 GMT

mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Michael Neylon) writes:
>*SPOILERS* AND PROOF!!!!
>
>Refs...
>	Maggie being sucked into the fan (reminds me of Arno in Total Recall)
>	Empire Strikes Back (Star Wars II) - Theme Music
>	Ms. Wild Kingdom on Krusty's show...

Actually, that was a reference to that lady from the San Diego zoo who kept
appearing on Johnny Carson. The famous thing about her appearances was the J.C.
would usually get peed on by one of the animals and/or one of more of them
would get loose and wreak havoc on the set. :-)

>And finally the proof....
>
>...that Smithers is GAY!  (sorry for all those who may be offended by this...)

>When Burns mentions dreams of women, of how 'they fly in through the window'
>Smithers fanastises about Burns doing the same.  Now we know that Smithers
>has high respect for Burns, but I dont think it goes this far....further
>proof that he is of that type (combine this with the ToTIII line about
>seamen.....)

Sorry, but I thought we all knew this from _way_ back. The time Homer gets that
promotion for the hair thing, I was pretty much convinced.

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From: parilis@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Gary Parilis)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: gosh! (I&STM)
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:40:22 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Nov3.212444.4688@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:

> movie.  Some of those early cartoons were indeed somewhat short on plot.  But
> it had a date of 1926, did I catch that right?  Kind of early...

I think Kent Brock man said it was 1928, the year you could see Al
Capone (is that who it was?) doin the Charleston (is that what it was)
on a flagpole (I KNOW it was a flagpole ;-).  I thought ti was great
that they took 3 unrelated things from the 20's and said you could see
them together!  :-)

BTW, did anyone catch what it said at the bottom of the screen at the
end of the old Scratchy cartoons?  It looked like a normal type of
thing to me, but I'd be really surprised if MG didn't put something
hilarious in there...

Also, did you notice that Scratchy looked like Felix the Cat, and that
Itchy was wearing Mickey Mouse's shorts?

> And, I liked "Itchy and Scratchy The Movie The Novel".

Wasn't the MOVIE called "The Itchy & Scratchy Movie", though, and not
"Itchy & Scratchy The Movie"?

- Gary
Lines: 8
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 14:44:38 MST
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: curtisn@SAS (Curtis Nelson)
Subject: Help with a name
Organization: BYU

Does anybody know the name of the little puke on the simpsons with the 
irratating laugh?  It's something like 'Haaa-Haaa!'  You know the guy?  What'
s his name?

Curtis

curtisn@sasb.byu.edu
From: david.CLark@analog.COM (David Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Bart's Teacher
Date: 5 Nov 1992 13:29:47 -0500
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.widener.edu

 I'm not sure, but when Marge was talking to Bart's teacher in the classroom in
I&STM episode, I thouhgt I saw her name on the blackboard behind her. It 
looked like her name was spelled "Mrs. Grubappel", with a G at the beginning, 
not a K. Did anyone else notice this? It was where she was showing Marge all
his "toys" he brought to school.

                      Just something to bother everyone with,
                        Dave "disappointed because no Barney cameos" Clark
From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: flamers and two new discussions
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:50:05 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Nov9.160043.2064@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> sullivan@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:

>  IMHO, (in my humble opinion), I think that it sounds more like "Doh-l',
>pretty much the same idea without a 'p'.  But I agree that we should have an
>"approved" spelling.  By the way is there anyone besides me who thinks this
>Kaskade thing sucks?  It's too big, maybe they can put in
>alt.stupid.kaskade.challenge.too.damn.long., sorry just my opinion.

A) I believe the 'official' spelling is "D'oh!".

B) I use 'n' for stupid Kaskade things.

			James Willer
[any opinions above have been registered with the federal government]
From: tina@diamond.UUCP (Tina Cacolice)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: flamers and two new discussions
Date: 9 Nov 1992 12:17:54 -0500
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.widener.edu



***commentary***

I know I'm new to this group, but, in reference to:

>Do you honestly think that the writers for the show shrewdly insert
>references to TV movies from the mid-seventies so that only you and the
>five other people who saw the film could recognize that?
>Use your head!  These things are cliches, spoofs, genre references, etc.
>Not specific references to little teeny world you've built for yourself. 
>If this is all wrong, then Homer himself is a reference to Roseanne Barr,
>because she's fat too.

and also to:


>I think you people take this show much too seriously.
>It is a cartoon.  Watch it as if it were one, because it is.
>People obviously have varying opinions on how good episodes are, of course
>but IT IS JUST A CARTOON DAMMIT SO DONT WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT IT OK??!!??!!
>Geeesh take a chill people....
>-Sime
>can memorize the Simpsons word for word like a severe GEEK or something, I do
>have somewhat of a life unlike some people, so if you are offended, chill out..


If these people don't LIKE this stuff, why do they waste their time
reading it?

I enjoy this stuff, but I do find it very difficult to go through 100's
of mail messages a week.  If I didn't enjoy it, I wouldn't do it.

I know its been a while, but I seem to remember this newsgroup called 
"flames" or something similar, where people who just hated other people
or liked to complain or whatever could go and be themselves.

I guess I'm proud to be a geek.  Maybe that should be my new .signature file:

---

Geek and Proud!		replies to tina@rjlg.com



(Hey, and for those of you that like this stuff:  the above is a reference
to "Gay and Proud," not that I'm gay...I just like references... a lot!)


***new discussions***


And for those of you who read this whole message and are disappointed to
have not read anything simpsons-ish, here are some things for you:

1.  I was surprised to see that no one mentioned that several major
characters were killed in the halloween epsiode  (most after becoming 
zombies).  I especially liked the way Smithers died in "King Homer."  

2.  I think that we should all get together and agree on an "approved"
spelling of Homer's favorite noise.  My offer is "Doh-p!"  but I'm sure
many will disagree with me.



Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: wagenfuh@huey.udel.edu (Karl Wagenfuehr)
Subject: Re: Maggie driving the car: Toonces NOT!
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:58:25 GMT

In article <Bx9AGp.BxK@news.cso.uiuc.edu> g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin) writes:
>People,
[snip!]  ... I thought, "This must be a reference to
>something." Any ideas?

Why has no one yet mentioned the obvious (at least in my news stream) about
Maggie driving:  It is a reference to the Simpsons own opening credits
(you remember those?)!  
One of the things I found funniest about the opening when I first saw it
was the shots of Maggie in the car, swerving on the wheel, and then the car
swerves, and then we see she is not really driving, but is playing along
on her toy stearing wheel.  Well, on Tuesday she was really driving, just
like the opening credits try to make you think.

It's a reference to itself.

"MMMmmm...recursion"
(please excuse my idiotic spelling errors; it's late at night, and my editor
isn't working properly -- my dog ate it.  It was like that when I got here...
No one saw me do it, you can't prove anything!)
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                          '
From: DaPete@cup.portal.com (Pete o Wilkinson)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Halloween Special III
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 92 15:38:25 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <batemanc.720823303@p4.cs.man.ac.uk>


//What gives? Do I take it this has just been shown in the US?
\\
//But we saw it in the UK this Sunday, 1st November.
\\And we haven't (to the best of my knowledge) had the SECOND Halloween
//special yet.
\\
//This has confused the hell out of me. Anyone explain to me what's going on?
\\
//Mad Chris.
\\
Because you live in third world county with tv run by the government you get
what ever they give you.   Now,  if you lived here in America, the greatest
country man has ever known you'd get the Simpsons in a timely and 
organized fashon. 

Sorry mate!  Cheers!

:)

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From: guppy@wixer.cactus.org (Jennifer Mery)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Simpsons Spinoff (3rd comment)
Date: 13 Nov 92 12:22:33 GMT
Organization: Real/Time Communications

In Itchy and Scratchy the movie, Krusty is interviewing a woman from the
zoo (with wolves) in a very TonightShow-like setting. I'm wondering if
this isn't the "spinoff" that I heard about on CNN and read about in TV
Guide. I figured it was, and that the media is just as clueless about
what Matt G. as ever.


ja"Ooh, I saw a reference to Northern exposure tonight!"m


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From: canderso@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chuck Anderson)
Subject: Re: DYNs for "Halloween Special" and "Itchy & Scratchy The Movie"
Keywords: Star Trek Voices
Reply-To: canderso@nyx.UUCP (Chuck Anderson)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 01:34:32 GMT

> jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:

>* Itchy & Scratchy The Movie
>   ...that the voice of Sulu sounded exactly like George
>      Takei's?  ("They didn't use their real names, but you
>      could tell it was them!")

I've been wondering when we'd get to this.  I listened closely the second
time around and I am convinced (not necessarily right) that Kirk was
indeed William Shatner and Zulu was George Takei(sp?), but Scotty sounded
like the school janitor (whatshisname).

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From: cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Oprah interview
Date: 5 Nov 1992 14:46:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Ed A. Mills writes:

>Oprah's interview with the Simpson's was smashing! Also,
>the interviews with Matt & the players were great.  I learned
>more about the making of The Simpsons in that 15 minutes
>than in years of reading this group & watching the show
>itself..  Must see. 2 thumbs up!! 

Agreed. Did you notice that when Oprah was driving in the
car to the Simpson's house she said she was in "Springfield,
U.S.A."? I think this reveals that Groening does not intend
us to know what state Springfield is in.

>Is the lady that does Marge the old Brenda Morgenstern
>from the Rhoda show? Sure looked like her.

Yes, Julie Kavner, also known recently from her performances
in _Awakenings_ and _This is My Life_.

My favorite bit from the Oprah interview:

Marge: "Who's belching in the living room?"
Homer & Bart:  "Oprah."


Mark B. Bendiksen
cb366@freenet.cwru.edu

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Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: jdonald@us.oracle.com (John R. Donald)
Subject: Re: I&STM
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:13:16 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <aJ6RTB2w164w@cellar.org> toad@cellar.org (Tony Shepps) writes:
>jdonald@us.oracle.com (John R. Donald) writes:
>
>> Intense?  I thought this was easily the worst episode ever.  Simply not 
>> funny.
>
>You need a humor transplant, sir!

???  I am an avid simpsons fan - (and seinfeld too).  I think my sense
of humor is pretty well developed.  I can distinguish between funny and
non-funny.  funniness cannot be produced by a formula, whether the formula
is a man from outer space saying "nanoo-nanoo" or a cartoon cat and mouse
bashing each other.
>
>> Bart dropping his pants.  How many times is this funny?  ...
>
>Bart's butt wasn't too funny, but Homer's line on seeing it was good: "Don't
>point that thing at me!"

ok, the line was funny...
> 
>> Bart as a stripper.  Really more repulsive than funny.  The bad thing about
>> things like this is that I used to disagree with parents who didn't let
>> their children watch the Simpsons - I no longer disagre with them.  I 
>> would not have wanted my children (if I had any) to watch that scene.
>
>So you weren't repulsed by the violence in the I&S cartoons, then?

no - but i didnt really think it was funny.  I think a little of I&S goes
a long way.  otherwise the simpsons are relying on the same comedy formulas
that they satarize.

>I advise you not to have any kids.  I've seen the children of parents who
>freak out at the thought of their kids seeing something like this on TV.
>They're not happy kids.  They're not well-adjusted kids.  They're the kind
>of kids who wind up with compulsive or addictive personalities, trying
>desperately to deal with a world where it's somehow wrong to even LOOK at
>the underside of life. 
>Parents who don't let their children watch The Simpsons: the most repulsive
>set of people I can think of.

Who died and appointed you Dr. Spock?  Anyone who thinks there should be
no limits on what a child should see will, in my opinion, end up with a child
with at least as many problems as those you list.  The age at which a child
can understand why something is funny is the age at which it is appropriate
for them to see it.

i stand by my original review - this was the worst episode ever.  (but, like 
all, it had some pretty funny spots.)

-jd

>--
>Also, I think Washington, D.C. should be destroyed.
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: morlang@iastate.edu (Gregory A Morlan)
Subject: Crazy Quote
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 04:37:38 GMT


In the episode Marge Gets a Job the quote "You work harder than a japanese
beaver," had me rolling on the floor.  Must say on of the greats!!!


Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: madera@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Gangster)
Subject: Wondering about the 11/5 episode...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:02:41 GMT

Did the school janitor actually say "tit" and get away with it?  =)

--
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: macl6441@mach1.wlu.ca (macleod heather)
Subject: Re: episode guide
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:37:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.4345.9608@dosgate> "alan kennedy" <alan.kennedy@canrem.com> writes:
>Could somone please E-Mail me a copy of an episode guide. I do not have
>FTP access, and have no other way of getting one.
>
>Thanks VERY much for any help!
>
>Alan Kennedy - alan.kennedy@canrem.com - Toronto, Ontario, Canada
>--
>Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
>World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044

Please mail it to me too!
Heather MacLeod  macl6441@mach1.wlu.ca  
Wilfrid Laurier University, Waterloo, Ontario
From: winnipg@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Winnipg)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Soylent Green...what it means!
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 02:23:30 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

>Also, I have never heard of the movie ``Solyent Green''. Could someone
>please post it's relevance to ``Marge Gets A Job''? (You don't 
>have to wreck the movie, but I've never even *heard* of it, so I would
>appreciate getting *some* clue. Or is this all fictional, like that
>``Green Golf Ball Joke'' on rec.humor? :-) :-)
Ok, in a nutshell here's a description of the movie Soylent Green.
Made in the early 70's it starred Chuck Heston & Edward G. Robinson in a 
future where there's overpopulation and little food to go around. Anyway 
there's this new cheap food item being given out called Soylent Green. To 
make a long message short Chuck finds out its made from dead bodies.

mmm...soylent green
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