From: kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: [alt.dreams]  McElwaine's postings (was Re: THE DIVINE MASTERS, and Dreams)
Followup-To: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,alt.dreams
Originator: kadie@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:17:03 GMT

[A repost - Carl]

Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject:  McElwaine's postings (was Re: THE DIVINE MASTERS, and Dreams)
From: gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us (Gary S. Trujillo)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 06:58:19 GMT

In <1992Nov4.171804.2100@cnsvax.uwec.edu> mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:

>      DREAMS are a very important part of the teachings and practices of
> Eckankar (referred to in the following article), but NOT of Sant Mat (also
> mentioned below)...

The following message is informational only.  There is no necessary
endorsement of its content or any recommendation to act in any par-
ticular manner.  In fact, I tend to feel that, whatever we might feel
about the content of Robert's articles, he has as much right as anyone
to post them, and I see the following attempt to prevent him from doing
so to be a bit scary, at least in the Usenet context.

That all having been said, I wish Robert McElwaine would make some attempt
to enter into a discussion, rather than just posting tracts.  It would be
far more useful, I think, if he were to attempt to respond to what is being
talked about in this newsgroup from the perspective of what he knows about
Eckankar, rather than just throwing out canned prefabricated materials.

Gary

> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:41:00 CST
> From: Dan Drumm <DRUMM@CNSVAX.UWEC.EDU>
> Sender: Law School Discussion List <LAWSCH-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
> To: Multiple recipients of list LAWSCH-L <LAWSCH-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
> Reply-To: Law School Discussion List <LAWSCH-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
> Message-Id: <9210161846.AA20938@unix1.CS.UMASS.EDU>
>
>      I would like to acknowledge receipt of your recent
> complaint concerning materials that your Notes, Conference,
> or Bulletin Board received from Mr. Robert McElwaine, one of
> our students here at the University of Wisconsin - Eau
> Claire.
>     Mr. McElwaine's activities on the Internet closely
> parallel similar activities here on campus in which he has
> used every available public forum to promote his views.
> Attempts to limit these activities have met with determined
> and protracted resistance and litigation on his part based
> upon his First Amendment rights under the United States
> Constitution.  He contends that the readers of Conferences
> or Bulletin Boards have no right to infringe on his right of
> free expression.  However, he does acknowledge and accept
> that the owners, moderators, or managers of Notes,
> Conferences, or Bulletin Boards do have the right to remove
> such material and to request that he not post any other
> materials.  He has given assurances that upon receipt of
> such a request that he will cease his activities.
>           The fastest way to take care of the issue and to
> prevent your Notes, Conference, or Bulletin Board from being
> the recipient of additional communications from Mr.
> McElwaine is to send him Email and request that he stop.
> That Email should give your name and the name of the
> Bulletin Board, Notes, or Conference you moderate or
> control.  You should specifically state that you have the
> authority to request that he cease and desist from any
> further postings.  If you are not the administrator, then
> you should forward this message to the individual who has
> such authority and request that he/she contact Mr.
> McElwaine.
>      I would request that a copy of any correspondence with
> Mr. McElwaine be also sent to me at CBRENNER@UWEC.EDU.   If,
> after being requested to stop, he continues to send his
> materials The University of Wisconsin - Eau Claire will take
> steps revoke his Internet privileges.
>      On behalf of the University of Wisconsin - Eau Claire I
> would like to apologize for any inconvenience Mr. McElwaine
> has caused and to thank you for helping us address the
> problem.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Charles J. Brenner, Director
> Computing and Networking Services
--
    Gary S. Trujillo                            gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us
Somerville, Massachusetts              {wjh12,bu.edu,spdcc,ima,cdp}!gnosys!gst
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Carl Kadie -- I do not represent EFF; this is just me.
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