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From: sdm91r@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Stuart Maclean)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Songs With Obnoxiously Long Titles
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:40:43 GMT

In <1992Dec13.235105.22462@midway.uchicago.edu> rons@quads.uchicago.edu (Josh Ronsen) writes:


>	Thanks everybody for contributing to my list of obnoxiously
>long song titles. Keep them coming. I will post all that I have
>collected next week and we will see who the winner is!

>	-Josh Ronsen
>	rons@miwday.uchicago.edu

How about the Pooh Sticks' 

I Know Someone Who Knows Someone Who Knows Alan McGee Quite Well.

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Stuart Maclean,
Dept of Electronics and Computer Science,
University of Southampton.
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From: sophiap@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Sophia Phillips)
Subject: Re: I WANT TO START A BAND!!!
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:30:24 GMT

In article <BzD07s.L5o@news.ucs.mun.ca> cweir@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Corey Weir) writes:
>If you want a lyricist/bassist, look me up in St. John's, NFLD. It's in
>Canada, though. Maybe, through the phone...;)
>
>Corey Weir
>cweir@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
>.

Hey Corey, you should go to Bloomington, Indiana.  (Campus of Indiana
University)  There are a lot of great people, talented, and fun, but quite
serious about music that probably would love a bassist that can sing and
write.  I have a friend there that does the same, and his band is doing
well, not to mention that John "Cougar" Mellencamp is from Seymour, Indiana
which is a hop, skip, and a jump from Bloomington, and that is where he got
his start, playing for Frat parties, and local clubs.  If you'd like more
info., I'll be going there for Christmas break, and can find out if anyone
is looking for someone like you.  Anyway though, good luck, I'm sure you'll
do well if your'e stubborn!  :-)

Sophia

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From: lester@elec.uq.oz.au (Sean)
Subject: Black Flag - Family Man
Keywords: Black, Flag
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 00:37:52 GMT


It's been a while since I've heard Black Flag's _Family Man_,
and then it was a tape of a tape.  I recently saw the cover
of the album for the first time.  What does the date 
"November 23, 1963" on the cover refer to?  If it was
mentioned in the album - I don't recall it.

Thanks,
Sean.
From: chappy@cis.ksu.edu (Douglas R Chapman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Detachable Penis
Date: 22 Dec 1992 03:16:45 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University, Dept of Computing & Information Sciences
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Originator: chappy@cis.ksu.edu


In article <1992Dec16.212701.24783@wam.umd.edu>, mag@wam.umd.edu (Michael) writes:
|> In article <608uVB1w165w@seanews.akita.com> jong@seanews.akita.com (Jon Gross) writes:
|> >I was wondering if anyone out there could tell me who does the song 
|> >"Detachable Penis" -- (I aplologize for the wording..."who does" Oh never 
|> >mind...)
|> >thanks.
|> >
|> >--
|> >[] SEANEWS [] Seattle Public Access Usenet News + Mail [] +1 206 747 NEWS []
|> >jong@seanews.akita.com
|> 
|>      King Missile
|> 
It is the new single from King Missle

Doug Chapman
Assistant Music Director
KSDB-91.9 Manhattan, KS.
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From: andre@avalanche.Canada.Sun.COM (Andre Giroux - Sun Montreal SSS)
Subject: Shamen .au file
Reply-To: andre@avalanche.Canada.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems du Canada
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:22:37 GMT

For those interested in having a an idea of what Shamen's latest album
looks like, talk to me, I have a SUN .au file of the song Ebeneezer Goode
the file is :
-rw-r--r--  1 andre     2966187 Dec 23 11:06 shamen.au

fairly large... I can't email to those interested...

the album is not as violent/powerful as the previous one I heard. (don't know
the titles). I was expecting  a darker sound. Some soungs could camouflage in
a Bobby Brown album (that's bad).

Later

Andre


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From: dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Subject: Re: K2 Soundtrack
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 31 Dec 92 23:57:55 GMT

In article <VaTBwB1w165w@missing.kludge.com> jcastle@missing.kludge.com (Jeff Castle) writes:
>
>Ok, perhaps someone out there could help me.
>There is a song in the Ski movie - K2, very industrial..
>They used it for all the Promo's., at any rate I'd like to know
>the title & artist of the song.. I'm guessing Front 242, but thats
>just a guess.  If anyone knows., pass on the info.

	"Moldavia" by Front 242 off of _Tyrrany_For_You_.  Excellent song,
excellent album, excellent band.

>Also., anyone heard any rumours of NIN going on Tour?

	Rumors, yes.  No more info than this, though.

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From: rwc@sebastian.news.mitre.org (Ronald Conti)
Subject: Pixie breakup?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:09:43 GMT

What ever happened to the pixies?  
It's been over a year since Trompe Le Monde...

Just before Trompe Le Monde, Black Francis did a small solo club tour.

Sbout 6 months ago, the Breeders (With bassist Kim deal) has put out
an EP.

So is it over?  Has there been any official word?

rwc


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From: jsy@Aig.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Jennifer Yu)
Subject: Re: Mary's Danish
Organization: NASA/Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 00:50:00 GMT

In article <C056Bz.JCv@rice.edu>, dafer@owlnet.rice.edu (Daryl Anderson Foster) writes:
|> 
|> I was wanting to get some information about the group, Mary's Danish.
|> What other albums do they have available besides "American Standard"?
|> Are these worth getting.  Could I get some background information on
|> the band?
|> 						-thanx

Oh - now I remember.  If you look on the Buffy the Vampire Slayer Soundtrack,
MD did a version of _I Fought the Law_ on there.  

Jen

yuie@cco.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: olivier@everest.ee.umn.edu (Olivier Meirhaeghe)
Subject: Re: Fugazi Why can't I walk down the street?]
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, EE dept.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 03:00:48 GMT

	Listen , I just dont want to hear it. I really dont care.
	I dont want to hear IT, I am NOT interested in Ian Mack Kaye
	sexual habits , he can be what he wants , or so can Everybody
	else , but I Dont WANT to hear it. I mean..If gays feel discriminated
	then They just have to stop claiming they are gays at every street
	corner. nobody will know and nobody will care. Stop brainless
	Gossip , Please, Thanks.
From: dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu (Dave Manning)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Supreme Love Gods
Summary: info requested
Keywords: Def American
Date: 2 Jan 93 01:38:48 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

Hi all.

I was going through my discs today, and decided to listen to the presumed
debut by the Supreme Love Gods. I'd heard it when I bought it, but I was   
cleaning the house or something and didn't really get into it.

In short, they're pretty good. I think Alternative Press summed it up in
a review by calling them a mixture of Love and Rockets and somebody else. :)
The vocalist has the same raspy, Marlene Dietrich quality to his voice that
Daniel Ash has, and the music is somewhat reminiscent of L 'n' R too.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had any information on the band --
who they are, where they're from.

Thanks!

Dave

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From: jis@panix.com (Jack Szwergold)
Subject: Re: Nation of Ulysses
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:08:21 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

In <1992Dec21.165925.15684@ultb.isc.rit.edu> ren5726@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

>Last I heard they had to break up because one of their guitarists left with
>their van and all of their equipment and they are to far in debt with Dischord 
>to buy new equipment.  Much saddness.
>Nuuj


Yo Nuuj

The last I heard, they broke up because their guitarist left the and to go
to colleg (or maybe that was Fugazi).  Whow knows.   If it wasn't for
Sassy naming that Ian guy Sassiest Boy in America, I'm sure they would
have died a lot earlier.  They aren't that great sounding, but they have a
great sense of style..... I'll give them that much....


Jack
jis@panix.com
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 30 Dec 1992 16:23:57 CST
From: <U19807@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: John Wayne was a Nazi

In article <ONEIL.92Dec30150156@husc10.harvard.edu>, oneil@husc10.harvard.edu
(John O'Neil) says:
>
>In article <1hqhnmINNb2d@hal.com> woodstck@hal.com (Nathan Hess) writes
>about 'John Wayne was a Nazi':
>
>   Great song.  What band recorded it?
>
>MDC a.k.a. 'Millions of Dead Cops', on the album " Millions of Dead
>Cops."

Addendum: When MDC was known as The Stains (NOT the punkametalloid band that
was on SST Records) and were still based in Austin, they released the original
versions of "John Wayne" and "Born To Die". These versions blow the ones on
the first LP right off the map,IMHO. Does anybody have an idea whether they
were reissued on any compilations?

      ** Chris Krolczyk,esq.  * DISCLAIMER: My opinions are in **
      ** Maniac-at-Large      * no way endorsed by the Univer- **
      ** U19807@UICVM.BITNET  * sity of Illinois at Chicago.   **
      ** u19807@uicvm.uic.edu * So much for frivolous lawsuits.**
From: carlj@mugwump (Carl)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: HELP... holiday in cambodia
Date: 22 Dec 92 10:05:19 GMT
Reply-To: carlj@cyclone.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom
NNTP-Posting-Host: mugwump.muppet.bt.co.uk
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meredith haitkin (mhaitkin@scott.skidmore.edu) wrote:
: I MUST know who sings the song "holiday in Cambodia".

Dead Kennedys.

C
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Seat Bee Sate
Date: 26 Dec 92 17:54:36 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

Can anyone tell me what Seat Bee Sate is?

An educated guess tells me that it has something to do with Contra Costa
County. 


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From: carlj@mugwump (Carl)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: The Sandkings
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:01:41 GMT
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Benjamin Librojo (bal@dcs.ed.ac.uk) wrote:
: I writing this message just say how pissed off I was to hear about the Sandkings
: splitting up ( I know it happened ages ago). They were the best live band in the
: entire universe (especially when they played King Tut's in Glasgow). It just really
: bugs me that as soon as they got an Album out and they started to build up a bit of a
: following , they split up. What a bummer. Will there ever be another band like them ??


God I hope not, they were a complete crock, I saw them a couple of years back at
Aston Uni when they were trying to be Wonderstuff look/soundalikes.  Remember
when the Wonderstuff used to be alternative? Back when the thing they were famous for
was insulting their audience? Well, anyway, thanx for the news about the Sandkings,
I, and many others I know, will now be happier bunnies. B^}


Cheers,
C
From: schrey@oak.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Timothy M. Schreyer)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Replacements
Date: 23 Dec 92 21:23:42 GMT
Reply-To: schrey@prc.unisys.com
Organization: Paramax Systems

In article <1992Dec20.052232.10400@u.washington.edu>, jganson@stein.u.washington.edu (Jeffrey Ganson) writes:
|>
|> In both cases, the band wasn't really "together".  REM was said to be on the
|> verge of a breakup.  As we now know, the Replacements were "breaking up", in
|> a sense, and Don't Tell A Soul was really Paul Westerbergs album.  After
|> rearranging and turning back into a band, they released All Shook Down, which,
|> while very loose, is a much better album because you can tell that it was made
|> by a real band.  It's a much more fun album, and more cohesive.  The same
|> can be said for REM's post-Reconstruction albums.
|> 
   I don't buy it.  All Shook Down is like "The Paul Westerberg Show".  He
   wrote all those songs himself and just got the boys to back him up.
   Thus all the fine whispering songs on the album.  I love All Shook Down
   but I wouldn't call it a "band" album.

   I personally like Pleased To Meet Me!

          TIM

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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: dafer@owlnet.rice.edu (Daryl Anderson Foster)
Subject: Mary's Danish
Summary: info
Organization: Rice University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 20:59:58 GMT


I was wanting to get some information about the group, Mary's Danish.
What other albums do they have available besides "American Standard"?
Are these worth getting.  Could I get some background information on
the band?
						-thanx
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From: hagbard@gagme.chi.il.us (Brian W. Dunn)
Subject: Re: Television -- together again?
Originator: hagbard@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:58:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.103200.24946@news2.cis.umn.edu> gslars@staff.tc.umn.edu (Greg Larson) writes:
>Walking by a local Best Buy record/video store yesteray, I noticed
>they had a few posters of a shadowed band with the word "Television"
>on them, and in the lower corner, said "Capitol records".  I've heard
>rumors about the band getting back together (or at least some
>semblence of the original).  Does anyone know -- is this just some
>preliminary hype advertising, or do they have something out now?
>
Yes they are really back.  And a new album has been released.
>


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From: stephane.gelinas@synapse.org (Stephane Gelinas)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: alt.music.alternative
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:00:00 GMT
Reply-To: stephane.gelinas@synapse.org (Stephane Gelinas)
Organization: SYNAPSE BBS - GATINEAU, QUEBEC - 819-561-4321

SL>> The Beatles-"Rain"
SL>> The Jazz Butcher-"Rain"
SL>> The Chills-"Rain"
SL>> Tones on Tail-"Rain"
SL>> Dragon-"Rain"
SL>>
SL>  Skinny Puppy--"Rain" on _rabies_

Subhumans - "Rain" on _From the cradle to the grave_ (excellent album)

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From: neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: RE: FIREHOSE ACOUSTIC SET
Date: 24 Dec 92 14:17:00 GMT
Reply-To: neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black)
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591

This is a personal message, so DONT' READ IT!  :)

-> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 19:55:15 PST
-> From: boo!PacBell.COM!shell.portal.com!ceej (Chris - Johnson)
-> To: PacBell.COM!uttsbbs!neil.black
-> Subject: fIREHOSE acoustic set
->
-> Hi Neil... YES I am interested in scarfing a tape of the acoustic
-> spiel! Let me know how you want to work it... Do you have any
-> Minutemen stuff?  I have several discs of them, plus all the fIREHOSE
-> discs.  What other music you like?  Ween, Fugazi, House/Rave,
-> Einsturzende, Utah Saints, Dancehall reggae, Negativland, HipHop,
-> Chicago House, Infectious Grooves, drivin and cryin, etc.... let me
-> know.  Money's cool too.  Later.  wishing i had a mailer with an
-> editor, cj

I couldn't e-mail you for some reason, so if you'd be kind enough to
send me your real e-mail address, we could work something out.  Thanks.
From: chop.edu (jester)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: marillion
Date: 23 Dec 92 20:35:35 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative

hey anybody got the first two singles marillion put out???
1st is - market square
2nd is - unsure of title

i need to know where it can get them in the  U.S.
thanx
From: relph@presto.ig.com (John M. Relph)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: xtc
Date: 23 Dec 92 23:07:49 GMT
Organization: Space CUDets Int'l

In the referenced article, mhaitkin@scott.skidmore.edu (meredith haitkin) writes:
>map6459@sigma.tamu.edu (PAUL, MARY ANN) writes:
>> I love this group and would like to hear from anyone who is also 
>> interested in them. I have four or five of their albums. See
>> ya later. 
>> 
>I Love this group too.. especially Skylarking.. I just bought Nonsuch
>but haven't listened to it very much.. what do you think?
>			Love, Meri

There is an XTC mailing list for discussion of all things related to
XTC (the band).  Send a message to chalkhills-request@presto.ig.com if
you are interested in subscribing to this mailing list.

About Nonsvch...  It's a pretty good album, not as coherent as
Skylarking but it has better sound, harder edges, and some really good
songs.  Skylarking is a better all-round album, telling a story of
either a day or a life, but Nonsvch sounds better and has more varied
themes, and a more varied sound.  Also, Todd Rundgren's theme for
Skylarking basically omitted any political songs from the album,
whilst Nonsvch has a few 'political' songs.

My faves: "Wrapped in Grey", "Then She Appeared", "That Wave".  "That
Wave" especially is a sonic feast.  Heavily psychadelic, like The
Dukes of Stratosphear (XTC in the skies, er, disguise), it sports
great production, interesting lyrics, and a killer guitar solo.

Listen to it in headphones.

	-- John

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From: wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley)
Subject: Re: Fugazi Why can't I walk down the street?]
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 04:43:54 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

olivier@everest.ee.umn.edu (Olivier Meirhaeghe) writes:
: 	Listen , I just dont want to hear it. I really dont care.
: 	I dont want to hear IT, I am NOT interested in Ian Mack Kaye
: 	sexual habits , he can be what he wants , or so can Everybody
: 	else , but I Dont WANT to hear it. I mean..If gays feel discriminated

: 	then They just have to stop claiming they are gays at every street
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: 	corner. nobody will know and nobody will care. Stop brainless
: 	Gossip , Please, Thanks.
: 
: 

Gee, I had no idea the problem was so simple to fix.  I guess if African 
Americans just pretended they were white, this would end racism too?
Please.

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From: mikef@amiganet.chi.il.us (Mike Fleming)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: UK vs US(WHY ME?)
Date: 20 Dec 92 22:11:28 CST
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

>HOW MANY AMERICANS DO LIKE JOY DIVISION?

Well, I do...and I'm an American...
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: sgt10@cl.cam.ac.uk (S.G. Theakston)
Subject: Re: Poppies
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:31:09 GMT

	I know this one's gone of the boil a bit now, but I think that "Box
Frenzy" was there best album, some-one did ask many articles ago and i don't
think anyone actually said what they thought of it.
Stu.

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From: jwisdom@ais.org (Joseph Wisdom)
Subject: Re: New Pearl Jam
Organization: UMCC
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 09:55:05 GMT

chappy@cis.ksu.edu (Douglas R Chapman) writes:


>We just receive a new 45rpm single from pearl jam.  It is called Sonic Reducer
>which is a cover song(cant remember who did it originally).  Does anyone have
>any info on this?  Is it just a single they felt like releasing or is a new
>album coming out?

>Doug R. Chapman
>Assistant Music Director
>KSDB FM
>Kedzie Hall Rm104
>Manhattan, KS  66506

my local alternative station merely states it is just a single... no sign
of any new album yet...

-jw
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From: karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Fugazi Why can't I walk down the street?]
Date: 30 Dec 92 00:05:33 GMT
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

In article <berger.725078460@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> berger@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (David Berger) writes:

>Who the F*CK cares whether Ian MacKaye is gay or not????

Um, that would be the person who first mentioned it on the net in
another newsgroup a few months ago, plus me, plus all the other people
who are fascinated by this enlightening exchange but I don't have time
to take a poll and see how many there are.

...You mean to tell me you've NEVER EVER paid ANY attention to stories
about some star's groupies, or girlfriend, or heard some rumor about
something interesting/dumb/silly/etc they've done in their personal
life, or anything like that? You know NOTHING about any rock star from
Elvis to Janis Joplin to Sid-n-Nancy besides what's on the records?
Pop stars are people, not some inert anonymous source of pleasant
sounds. 

How about the firestorm of controversy in newspapers and academia when
it was discovered in recent years that the highly-esteemed philosopher
Paul de Man was a Nazi? Does that change whether he's still valid as a
philosopher? (My opinion: I'm not sure!)

>First of all, "Why cant I walk down the street" 
>is about how women feel being harrassed by men, not about Mr MacKaye's
>personal preferance. 

That song has nothing to do with this. I've never even heard that song.

>"Alternative Rock" phenomenon...Ian is one of them.  So debate Robert Smith
>or Depeche Mode and leave true Indy bands out of it.

But I don't care about Robert Smith or Depeche Mode!

R.



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