HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal)
Subject: Re: Media Coverage (Re: CNN bias
Organization: The University of Tennessee, Knoxville
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:04:42 GMT

In article <ATAYLOR.93Jan24150646@gauss.nmsu.edu>
ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) writes:

><In article <1993Jan22.053408.16056@pony.Ingres.COM> garrett@Ingres.COM (IF YOUCANNOT CONVINCE THEM, CONFUSE THEM) writes:
>
><If you can show me some examples where the media people knowingly left
><off then I'll believe you.
>
>	Zoe Baird is guilty of a Federal FELONY; she and her husband
>	properly should be indicted and tried on Federal Tax Fraud
>	charges; if she was a Bush appointee-to-be, the "unbiased"
>	media would have been demanding same (remember John Tower?).
>	Instead, every news story I've seen or read has been
>	utterly sympathetic.

       For whatever it's worth, CNN (before Baird withdrew) ran a
number of stories about how Baird (in the words of Bernard Shaw) was
"Drawing attention to the difficulty of finding adquate child care in
the United States."
       Now, while I am well aware this is a problem for a lot of people,
exactly what does Zoe Baird, who's been making half a million dollars
a year, have to do with a poor mother trying to find child care and
still manage to work and pay the bills?

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PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu   "Of course the government and the newspapers
                          lie.  But in a democracy they're different lies."
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From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.medicine,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.african.american,sci.med
Subject: Re: Statement of President Clinton on Health Care Reform Task Force
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:17:29 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department

In article <1993Jan27.044626.19510@tc.cornell.edu> bai@msiadmin.cit.cornell.edu (Dov Bai-MSI Visitor) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.201607.4782@news.columbia.edu> jsb16@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jennifer S Broekman) writes:

>>May you be faced with the choice between buying food and buying penicillin,
>>despite having worked since age 13.

>A theft is still a theft, no matter what the purpose is.

And if the choice has to be made, who should make it?  Are you willing to 
give the decision as to which medical procedures should be readily 
available to you and which should not to others?  There are cases
in which expensive options are open and much cheaper ones are not,
because the cheaper ones are "experimental."  Not proven does not 
mean not true.  In some cases, the cheaper ones are very cheap, and
there have been attempts to make sure that they remained in disuse.

The scientific medical establishement in the 19th century drove a doctor,
who pointed out that certain standard practices were killing many, insane.

-- 
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
hrubin@snap.stat.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet)  
{purdue,pur-ee}!snap.stat!hrubin(UUCP)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
From: mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (John P. Mechalas)
Subject: Re: Shocked Beyond ALL BELIEF!!!!!
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 21:33:39 GMT

In <1993Jan25.151635.659@st-andrews.ac.uk> ccjm@st-andrews.ac.uk (Colin Charles James MacDonald) writes:

|Would you be more shocked to learn that prostitution is legal here in stuffy 
|old Britain? It's only *soliciting* that is illegal. What's the difference?
|How should I know? Solicitors are prostitutes that get caught?

I am a little rusty on my legal terms...but I believe solicitation would
be actively selling something.  If you were to go up to a prostitute, for
example, and request services, that would be legal.  But if a prostitute
were to offer his/her services to you, then that would be solicitation.

-- 
John Mechalas                                          "I'm not an actor, but
mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu                                 I play one on TV."
Aero Engineering, Purdue University                     #include disclaimer.h
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.clinton
From: nfs@elan (Norbert Schlenker)
Subject: Re: DAY THREE: Either a lie or utter stupidity
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Princeton University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:10:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.164820.27794@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> Dr. Norman J. LaFave <lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov> writes:
>
>Well Broward, if you're so sure you're right, then leave.

Here it is in black and white, folks.  The liberal redneck.
"Love it or leave it."

>We who are working
>to better this nation don't need defeatist do-nothings around
>dragging on our efforts....
>
>Dr. Norman J. LaFave
>Senior Engineer
>Lockheed Engineering and Sciences Company

Hmmm... Lockheed.  How long is your job going to last?  Maybe
you should be checking out Uruguay too.

Norbert
nfs@cs.princeton.edu
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
From: mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.sex,talk.religion.misc,soc.college,alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Shocked Beyond ALL BELIEF!!!!!
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:30:52 GMT
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

In <1993Jan26.075916.22317@deeptht.armory.com> rstevew@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz) writes:

|In article <90641@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM> mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson) writes:
|>In <1993Jan25.151635.659@st-andrews.ac.uk> ccjm@st-andrews.ac.uk (Colin Charles James MacDonald) writes:
|>
|>|Would you be more shocked to learn that prostitution is legal here in stuffy 
|>|old Britain? It's only *soliciting* that is illegal. What's the difference?
|>|How should I know? Solicitors are prostitutes that get caught?
|>
|>I thought solicitors were attorneys?
|>Mark.Wilson@AtlantaGA.NCR.com
|-------------------------------
|No, in the dictionary, soliciting for prostitution is taken to be the act
|by the prostitute of approaching a man entreating him to pay her money for
|sex acts, as it is presumed that the man is unable to resists this and that
|it threatens the otherwise stable family, a bit like entrappment in
|criminal law. If the man requests the service, it is presumed that he knows
|what he is doing. In other words, soliciting is advertising, unless a man
|is selling his sexual favors for money, and then he can be soliciting for
|prostitution too. In the old school, the payor is never in trouble.
|- Steve

It was supposed to be a joke Steve, no need to take it so seriously.

BTW, my copy of Webster's, copyright 1966 defines solicitor as
1: one who solicits
2: a lawyer who advises clients, represents them in lower courts and prepares
cases for barristers to try in higher courts.
3: The chief law officer for a municipality, county, or government department.
SYN see LAWYER

right below it is
SOLICITOR GENERAL
a law officer appointed primarily to assist an attorney general.
-- 
Mob rule isn't any prettier merely because the mob calls itself a government
It ain't charity if you are using someone else's money.
Wilson's theory of relativity: If you go back far enough, we're all related.
Mark.Wilson@AtlantaGA.NCR.com
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From: zursch@whizkid.wpd.sgi.com (Jeffrey B. Zurschmeide)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.peeves,talk.politics.medicine,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.african.american,sci.med
Subject: Re: Statement of President Clinton on Health Care Reform Task Force
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:36:42 GMT
Reply-To: zursch@whizkid.wpd.sgi.com (Jeffrey B. Zurschmeide)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

res4w@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Robert E. Schmieg) writes:
>3) IF you or he DO NOT have any documentation that this has
>occurred (and documentation is NOT "he said she said ..." or "
>my cousin ...) then EITHER get the documentation in order and
>pursue 1) above, OR SHUT UP.  You and he are either spreading
>unfounded rumors, or else ignoring a changeable situation.	

Ooh, the old "Get loud and hope you can intimidate someone by demanding
documentation" ploy......sorry Robert, but I don't have any documentation
right here handy at my fingertips. 

But, this article (and this whole series) has been cross-posted to 
soc.culture.african.american, and I'm willing to bet that some of
the regular readers of that forum will be able to come up with 
documented instances that will leave you with the bitter taste of
a size 10 flight boot placed squarely between your molars. 

(Okay Chad, don't let me down!) 

JZ

p.s. 
   And thanks to Gary Dare for the first example...
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From: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: Congratulatoin, Bill-Bots!
Date: 28 Jan 1993 14:30:51 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, jeff@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Jeff Williamson) says:



       yes, yes, of course.  It's ALL ME!  HAHAHAHAHAHA

      You poor fuckers.  Federal Gravy Train is going DOWN!

      Come on, all you working people, we're bringing it DOWN!

      You didn't even grasp the point of th story.  God, they really
     ARE too stupid.  I just can't believe it.  

     FLAME ON, AMERICA!@


>Tell you what, B. Get a good neurosurgeon, have the proper synapses
>reconnected, and present us with some rational thought on why you think
>Billy Boy is taking us to hell in a handbasket. I'm afraid the train 
>noises you keep making have derailed your train of thought.


        I predict, much to my surprise, that Bill Clinton will
        be the best thing that ever happened to the middle class
        in America.  Of course, the middle class won't ever 
        realize it.

         Put me in your kill file, to alleviate further distress.

:)

>
>
>-- 
>**  Jeff Williamson     **  Academic Computing and Network Services  **
>**  blackmagik@nwu.edu  **          Northwestern University          **
>**  Evanston, Illinois  **      Hours: 0000-0800, Monday-Friday      **
>****   Someone in the club tonight has stolen my ideas.   --TMBG   ****
>

Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: an5823@anon.penet.fi (scorpion)
Subject: Re: Tibet: People Continue to Hope [forwarded article]
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: talk.politics.china
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 07:44:08 GMT

>From: tak@leland.Stanford.EDU (David William Budd)
>Subject: Re: Tibet: People Continue to Hope [forwarded article]


>Tibet is interesting for one other very important reason. In the early
>1950's, the CCP negotiated a programme very similar
>to the "one country, two systems" set-up in Hongkong. Tibet
>was promised a number of things such as non-interference in religion,
>and a great deal of autonomy, much as Hongkong people have been
>promised. Unfortunately, talk and practise have not been the 
>same. The PRC has on many occasions violated the terms
>of the agreement. Tibet is an important indicator
>of China's actons after 30.6.97.

>Just a thought..

This is insidious and vicious.

It is just this kind of "thought" that keeps an average chinese wondering
what is the real intention of the few westerners behind the Tibetan affair. 

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From: 89P2820@CSDVAX.CSD.UNSW.EDU.AU
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
Subject: Information request
Date: 26 Jan 93 07:46:56 GMT
Reply-To: 89P2820@CSDVAX.CSD.UNSW.EDU.AU
Organization: Indiana University
Comments: To: china-nt@uga.cc.uga.edu

Hi there,

Could anybody send me the U.S. Annual Human Right Report (especially the part
 related to China) through E_mail.

Your help will be very much appreciated.

Yaming Zhang

Executive Director
Sino_Aust Watch
Sydney, Australia

Tel : 61-02-6658288(H) 61-02-6975698(O)
Fax : 61-02-6658288(H)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: Ignatius Ding <ding@HPSMTC1.CUP.HP.COM>
Subject:      Winston Lord Nominated to Key Position in the State Dept.
Reply-To: Ignatius Ding <ding@HPSMTC1.CUP.HP.COM>
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:41:08 GMT

Dear Netters,


     Chinese newspaper World Journal reported on January 20, 1993 that
President Clinton has nominated Winston Lord as the Under-Secretary of State
for East Asian-Pacific Affairs.  Lord, a former ambassador to China in the
Reagan/Bush administrations, has been one of the most outspoken critics of
George Bush's China policy.  His nomination is perceived by political analysts
and media as an early indication that the Clinton administration might take
tougher stance than the previous administrations towards Asian communist
countries and other nations ruled by dictatorship, including China, Vietnam,
Cambodia, and Burma.

     Career diplomat Lord was a participant and a key player in Henry
Kissenger's breakthrough negotiation with China in 1972.  He withdrew his
support of the Republican administration policy towards China after the
Tian'anmen Massacre in June 1989.  His wife, accomplished writer Bette Bao
Lord, was originally from China.  She was one of the speakers at the protest
rally against Li Peng's presence at the U.N. Security Council Summit in front
of the United Nations on January 31, 1992.

     Speaking of "changes" ......


Ignatius Y. Ding
SVDC Communications
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: stacc0@QUANTUM.FIU.EDU (Ye)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
Subject: Re: dear countryman letter
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:59:26 GMT
Reply-To: Ye <stacc0@QUANTUM.FIU.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Comments: To: china-nt@uga.cc.uga.edu

>FROM: KFC@GNV.IFAS.UFL.EDU:

>Dear Fellow Countrymen,

>     We Chinese have a wise saying: "It is better to withdraw the
>fire from underneath the boiling pot than trying to cool the soup
>by stirring it (Yu2 Qi2 Yang2 Tang1 Zhi3 Fu2, Bu4 Ru2 Fu3 Di3 Chou1
>Xin1).

I think it's unfair to call Mr. Zhao 'the fire underneath the boiling pot',
he may be one that caught on fire, but there are certainly many burning
logs... and it's sure funny to see KFC complain about fire! I mean, how
can 'we do chicken right' without fire? 8-).
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: Diane <C0370@UNIVSCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Cease Fire!
Reply-To: Diane <C0370@UNIVSCVM.BITNET>
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:53:16 GMT

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Folks:

Lunar new year is coming. I suggest that everybody on the net observe the
Chinese tradition and cease fire for three days from midnight of Jan. 22,
1993.

Let's put aside the nasty politics, sit back, relax, and enjoy the
traditional Chinese cuisine. Don't let the festival be spoiled.

Good lucks.

Diane
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: "NY." <yue@MOHLSUN.PHYSICS.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Re Dawei Zhou.
Reply-To: "NY." <yue@MOHLSUN.PHYSICS.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:00:43 GMT
Comments: To: china-nt@uga.cc.uga.edu

I wonder why Dawei Zhou's messages are always of so much"Huo3 Yao4 Wei4".
Can you be gentler, kinder and nicer,Mr. Dawei Zhou?
I believe nothing wrong with your admiring, loving or whatever good words can
be used , a person. But it is very wrong to harshly attack others who disagree
with the person you admire, love and ......
Can you only talk about the facts , not the personal attacks?
I hope we will be more "mature".
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu)
Subject: Re: Tibet: People Continue to Hope [forwarded article]
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:18:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.024907.22103@leland.Stanford.EDU> tak@leland.Stanford.EDU (David William Budd) writes:
>In article <1993Jan23.021239.6083@bnlux1.bnl.gov> ping@bnlux1.bnl.gov (Shiping Zhang) writes:
>>In article <C166I5.LAC@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>>
>>  Philippine was backed up by China?  :-)
>>
>>>Tibet was part of China since 13xx, Tibet had representative in KMT's
>>>government before 1949. You guys using manufacured issue on Tibet, trying to
>>>equate that with colonilism of yours, to alleviate your responsibility on
>>>past colonial crimes, because China was/is a major country that supported many
>>>colonies to gain independent. 
>
>
>Tibet is interesting for one other very important reason. In the early
>1950's, the CCP negotiated a programme very similar
>to the "one country, two systems" set-up in Hongkong. Tibet
>was promised a number of things such as non-interference in religion,
>and a great deal of autonomy, much as Hongkong people have been
>promised. Unfortunately, talk and practise have not been the 
>same. The PRC has on many occasions violated the terms
>of the agreement. Tibet is an important indicator
>of China's actons after 30.6.97.
>
I wonder since during 1950-51 the PLA routed the local Tibetan forces,
entered Larsa, and since they obviously are ruthless bunch of liers and
murderers like you said, why bother negiotiate an agreement with
Dalai Lama?  why not shoot him then and there, since Tibet had nothing
to negoiate with?  While at it, why do the Communist put PanChen Lama
back on his rightful Throne which his peer Dalai took away from him
and force him into exile?  or they can get rid of Dalai, dethrone
him and his supporting nobles, like Yuan, Qing dynasties did it
before, and install some other wet-behind-the-ear 2 year old,
(come to think of it, how to you prove the current Dalai or the
way before him the "real" living budda?  didn't the Qing Emperor(aka "invader"
got rid of the "real" one a couple of re-incarnations ago?  if
so the current one is a fake!  ;-> )  
and "God-King No. 2"  Panchen be his teacher by right & tradition, they 
ought to brain-wash the little brat to be very grateful to Panchen 
and loyal to his "chinese invaders".   

oh, how stupid the the "invaders" are, allow both Dalai and Panchen
to keep their titles, and travel aboard to India freely in the 50s,
continue have influence in government, hesitate on land reform,
fearing it would really piss off the nobles(which they later did), 
which is the real power behind the boy god-King.   

>Just a thought..

just another thought.  
>


Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: Ignatius Ding <ding@HPSMTC1.CUP.HP.COM>
Subject:      A Human Rights Activist for A Human Rights Position
Reply-To: Ignatius Ding <ding@HPSMTC1.CUP.HP.COM>
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:32:25 GMT

BTW, there is also another significant appointment in the State Department.
Kathy Kennedy Townsend was nominated as the Under-Secretary for Human Rights.
It probably is the best appointment to that position in many years.  Townsend
is Robert Kenndy's daughter and a true human rights "career" activist since she
graduated from college.  And she has, of course, all the right connection and
the will to get the job done.


Ignatius Ding
SVDC Communications
From: kzhou@MUSKWA.UCS.UALBERTA.CA (Zhou Kangping)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
Subject: request
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:42:41 GMT
Reply-To: Zhou Kangping <kzhou@MUSKWA.UCS.UALBERTA.CA>
Organization: Indiana University
Comments: To: CHINA-NT%UGA.BITNET@vm.ucs.ualberta.ca

Hi there! I'd like to join your China-Net. Please let me know more about
your net. Thank you very much. Carl K. Zhou
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: UFDZ@UFPINE.BITNET
Subject:      a open letter to the council members
Reply-To: UFDZ@UFPINE.BITNET
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:09:00 GMT

        A open letter to the council members of IFCSS

        After I received the audio tape of 3rd conference, I find some strong
words, for example, " if....., Zhao haiqing must resign!" " Does the president
of IFCSS has the right to dismiss the chairman of a working committee?"
        I wish all council members to respect the will of the majority of CSS,
I believe the will of the majority of CSS is the unity of IFCSS. By the
constitution of IFCSS, council member elected by domain schools also can be
impeached by majority of domain schools, therefore council member's vote
must rely on the opinion of domain majority of CSS, council member must
represent the majority of CSS, rather to represents himself.
        I wish all council members do some positive contribution to the
unity of IFCSS.
        Even Zhao haiqing delayed the report he should submitted early,
and zhao should respect more the new leadership of IFCSS HQ, no question,
he still is the most qualified person to work as the chairman of CCSA to
compare with the new nominee who is far lack the experience before July,
the important moment for many CSS.
        I wish council members do some positive contributions to the unity
of IFCSS, make Geng and zhao work together under the same IFCSS flag.
                                        Dawei Zhou,Jan. 27, 1993}ixD}i}iq
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: li@padeds.uucp (Weigang Li)
Subject: TEST
Organization: Division of Applied Sciences, Harvard University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 03:48:42 GMT


test


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|   WEIGANG   LI                                 |
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From: C0370@UNIVSCVM.BITNET (Diane)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
Subject: Who are the part of XXX?
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:40:08 GMT
Reply-To: Diane <C0370@UNIVSCVM.BITNET>
Organization: Indiana University

Some people are continuing bombing this net by some anonymous letters.
The so called 'open letter' without signatures has no credibility whatsoever.
To me, they are just like the Red Guard's Dazibao.

If posters really want to make a genuine voice, sign your name(s) before
posting them to the net. Nobody will be able to posecute you, trust me.

Qualification is not the only criterion that decides a nominee.
If an official has certain misconduct, no matter how qualified s/he is,
s/he will be forced to resigned. The examples: formal President Nixon and
more recent one - Ms. Baird.

Diane
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: TAN Shi <TAN@VENUS.YCC.YALE.EDU>
Subject:      your china-net subscription
Reply-To: TAN Shi <TAN@VENUS.YCC.YALE.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 02:49:00 GMT
Comments: To: china-nt@uga.bitnet

Your account seems to be rejecting china-net messages. This is just a test to
verify that. Sorry for the disturb.

Tan Shi
CNMC member
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: Dong Chen <dong@LPF.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: question
Reply-To: Dong Chen <dong@LPF.UMD.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 10:12:06 GMT
Comments: To: CHINA-NT@uga.cc.uga.edu

Ye <stacc0@QUANTUM.FIU.EDU> wrote:
>Is there a way that those who donated to IFCSS only for the sake of supporting
>Mr. Zhao to get their money back so that they can re-donate to Mr. Zhao?

Is it possible for those who donated to IFCSS/CCSA to Mr. Zhao get a receipt ?
 (Just random thought.)
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