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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: PD or Shareware FTP software available for OS/2?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:54:26 GMT

In article <BrrE8H.AH2@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mwh45279@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marc Henkel) writes:
>Is there any FTP software available in the public domain,
>whether shareware or freeware, that allows an FTP session
>in OS/2?  We are currently running OS/2 v1.3 and Microsoft
>LANManager 2.1.  Is there any way to run an FTP daemon so
>that we could log into our servers from a UNIX box over 
>TCP/IP?  I guess IBM's TCP/IP 1.2.1 is an option, but since
>I am cheap, anything PD would be most desireable.  Thanks for
>any enlightenment.

The only freeware or shareware TCP/IP package for OS/2 at present is a
version of KA9Q which runs only across SLIP.  The author is currently
working on an update which supports NDIS drivers and is more
Presentation Manager oriented, but it hasn't been released yet.

The IBM package is about $130 for base services at academic discount
for the first license, which is not too bad.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
From: yktnews@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: NFS deamon trap D in tar
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:57:58 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In  <ignacij.712354787@meishan.animal.uiuc.edu>  ignacij@meishan.animal.uiuc.edu (Ignacy Misztal) writes:
> Below is the setup in which tar on the Sun was tring to back up
> the OS/2 files.
>
> 486/33 with 16 M, OS/2 2.0 GA, IBM TCP/IP 1.2.1
> NFSD was started by starting PORTMAP and NFSD with no parameters
>
> Sun SS1, SunOS 4.1.1, mount line:
> misz:c:/ /home/ignacij/os2c nfs rw,intr,bg,wsize=4096,rsize=4096 0 0
>
>
> tar from PC to Sun was started by:
> tar cvf backup os2c
>
> After copying about 20 files, NFSD quit, printing trap 000d. There was
> no damage to any window.

Ignacy,

    It seems my previous reply was lost, only the reference part was posted
to the news group. Try to mount with rsize=1024,wsize=1024 options.

    I tested with these option on our AIX 3.1.6 system. I used the tar command
    backed up my D drive, OS/2 2.0 system, with 49 MB of size successfully.
    The syntax I used: /u/gao>tar -cf os2d.tar ~gao/tmp,  where the tmp
    directory is the mount point of my OS/2 d drive.

    Please let me if this helps.

Regards,

KeJia
IBM Watson Research
gao@watson.ibm.com
From: backman@ftp.com (Larry Backman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
Subject: Re: FTP Software Inc. TCP/IP  &&  Novell's Netware Requester
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:23:24 GMT
Organization: FTP Software, Inc., Wakefield, MA
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP


 >> I am attempting to install FTP Software inc TCP/IP for OS/2 2.0 on a machine 
 >> that has the OS/2 requester already installed.   To make a long story short 
 >> the requester needs and ODI interface and TCP/IP needs a NDIS interface is 
 >> their an ODI-NDIS type of patch out there.   What method do I use to run the 
 >> two of them consecutively.   The requester runs fine by itself and the FTP/
 >> Software runs fine by itself.   But when you put the 2 of them togethor you 
 >> end up with a locked OS/2.
 >> 

*In the past* I have successfully run PCTCP and netware con currently using
the ODISUP shim provided on the 2.0 beta V 6.304 Netware requestor disk.
I have not tried this since OS/2 2.0 was formally released since ODISUP
has seemed to be in an indeterminate state.

So; to answer your original question, you need to scrounge the released Novell
ODISUP shim from somewhere and then contact me.  I'll give you my config.sys
from 3 montsh ago with all the layers and drivers installed, and send you
on your hopefully successful way.

There are dragons out there; be carefule :-).


Larry Backman
FTP Software
From: ignacij@meishan.animal.uiuc.edu (Ignacy Misztal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
Subject: Re: NFS deamon trap D in tar
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:19:47 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Below is the setup in which tar on the Sun was tring to back up 
the OS/2 files.

486/33 with 16 M, OS/2 2.0 GA, IBM TCP/IP 1.2.1
NFSD was started by starting PORTMAP and NFSD with no parameters

Sun SS1, SunOS 4.1.1, mount line:
misz:c:/ /home/ignacij/os2c nfs rw,intr,bg,wsize=4096,rsize=4096 0 0


tar from PC to Sun was started by:
tar cvf backup os2c

After copying about 20 files, NFSD quit, printing trap 000d. There was
no damage to any window. 

Being unsuccessful, I tried to use rcopy from the PC. It eventually succeded,
but its pattern of operation was very erratic: 5-20 seconds of seemingly
high speed copying, followed by a 5-20 s standstill. During that standstill,
vt100 screen appeared frozen.

I needed to back up my files to transfer files from FAT to HPFS. Perhaps I  
should have used xcopy from the PC? 
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Ignacy Misztal			E-mail: ignacy@uiuc.edu
University of Illinois		Phone: (217) 244-3164
1207 W. Gregory Dr.
Urbana, IL 61801
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
From: kwhelan@neptune.uark.edu (Kenneth Whelan)
Subject: FTP Software Inc. TCP/IP  &&  Novell's Netware Requester
Keywords: TCP/IP
Organization: University of Arkansas School of Law
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:00:52 GMT


I am attempting to install FTP Software inc TCP/IP for OS/2 2.0 on a machine 
that has the OS/2 requester already installed.   To make a long story short 
the requester needs and ODI interface and TCP/IP needs a NDIS interface is 
their an ODI-NDIS type of patch out there.   What method do I use to run the 
two of them consecutively.   The requester runs fine by itself and the FTP/
Software runs fine by itself.   But when you put the 2 of them togethor you 
end up with a locked OS/2.

Thanks for your time.

Ken
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
From: agriffin@mitre.org ((James) Artch Griffin(W20))
Subject: Has anyone ported ISODE?
Summary: Asking if anyone has ported or tried to port ISODE to OS/2 2.0
Keywords: ISODE
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:10:20 GMT

The subject says it all.
Xref: sparky comp.os.os2.networking:832 comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc:4531
From: br.pct@RLG.Stanford.EDU (Peter C. Tam)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Dis_Pkt9 in DOS Box under OS/2 2.0
Keywords: Dis_Pkt9 OS/2
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:44:55 GMT
Organization: Research Libraries Group, Inc.


  Have anyone tried to use Dis_Pkt9 (NDIS <-> FTP Packet Driver) in DOS Box
under OS/2 2.0? 
  Can it talk to the OS2 NDIS driver?
  If no, can I have OS2 NDIS & still configure a DOS NDIS driver with DOS 
Box Driver Setting Menu & Dis_Pkt9 with DOS Box Driver Setting, and it works?
  And how about Dis_Pkt9 configured in DOS Box Driver Setting to talk to
the OS2 NDIS driver configured in CONFIG.SYS of OS2 ?
From: mike@fermi.wustl.edu (Mike Westphall)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
Subject: Help Clarkson and PC-NFS
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:20:56 GMT
Organization: Washington University Astrophysics
NNTP-Posting-Host: fermi.wustl.edu

I am a new user to OS/2. I have 1.5 weeks experience with it thus far. It is
installed on a 386-25 generic clone type machine with 8 megs of ram.  I
would like to be able to use the Clarkson University TCP/IP Package under
OS/2.  To date I have been able to telnet and ftp using CUTCP under OS/2
using an Everex Speedlink/PC16 Ethernet card. But there are two ever-present
problems.  The first is that I must run the packet driver which comes with
the Speedlink TWICE in order to initialize the driver.  On the first run of
FTPSLINK.COM I get the message that the packet driver loaded along with
"Driver Initialization is failed". On the second try everything works fine.

The second problem that I experience has to do with running
other sessions or programs while running telnet in a dos window or full
screen session. If I open an OS/2 session or run an OS/2 application all
is fine. If I open a DOS window or full screen session there is a fifty fifty
chance that upon returning to the telnet session I will find that it has
frozen. I have read the FAQ and monitored the OS/2 news groups looking for
clues. I think I have changed all the DOS setting that need to be changed,
but that does not mean they are correct. If you are currently using CUTCP
or have some idea as to what my problem may be I would appreciate hearing
from you.

I would also like to hear from anyone that is using SUN PC-NFS under OS/2.
I understand that under DOS/Windows the RAL PKTMUX packet driver
multiplexing interface enables one to use SUN PC-NFS and the Clarkson
utilities simultaneously.

I'd really like to hear from anybody who has used PC-NFS of PKTMUX under
OS/2 before I try to install either of these applications. Any clues to
proper instillation under OS/2 (dos session or other) as well as potential
problems would be highly appreciated and a big time saver.

Thanks.

Michael S. Westphall
Email: mike@cosray.wustl.edu
Dept of Physics, Washington U.
St. Louis, MO 63130
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
From: eengelke@sail.uwaterloo.ca (Erick Engelke)
Subject: Re: Has anyone ported ISODE?
Keywords: ISODE
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:40:27 GMT


It has been ported to the 386 running on top of a freeware
DOS WATTCP stack and packet drivers.  It can be ftped from
cc-vms1.massey.ac.nz (130.123.1.4) in the
file dosisode70.zip

Erick
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						 University of Waterloo
Waterloo TCP Architect		 erick@development.watstar.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
From: GG.MPD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Michael Durket)
Subject: LaMail bugs?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:25:05 GMT

    I have a question or two about LaMail. When I bring up the
application, the INBOX is not positioned correctly (it doesn't
appear entirely in the LaMail desktop window). To get it where I can
see it all, I have to scroll the LaMail desktop. I've noticed these
oddities:

    1) No vertical scroll thumb appears for the LaMail desktop until
       I first expand LaMail (by clicking in the upper right corner)
       so that LaMail fills my screen. When I do this, it puts in
       a vertical scroll bar thumb that I can use. I can then
       resize LaMail back to the size it started with (again by
       clicking the right corner). This time the scroll bar thumb
       appears and stays around.

    2) Once I've got the INBOX properly positioned on my LaMail
       desktop I'd like to save its position so I don't have to
       keep repositioning it every time I start LaMail. I use the
       Options menu choice (Save.. I think) to do this. I answer
       OK to the dialog box. However, next time LaMail starts up,
       the INBOX window is still mispositioned.

    Is it me or LaMail? Inquiring minds want to know!

    Mike Durket
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
From: jburns@pdxgp1 (John Justin Burns Jr.)
Subject: How to read the books on TCP/IP 1.2.1 Softcopy-4 Manuals diskette?
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:55:15 GMT

The title says it all.  How do I read these manuals.  I have expanded them
into book format, but how do I read book format?

Thanks in advance

John Burns
jburns@ichips.intel.com
From: ron.gines@wugate.wustl.edu!travel (Ron Gines) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
Subject: LU6.2 for OS/2 available
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:15:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Travel Online, St. Louis, MO, USA
Reply-To: ron.gines@wugate.wustl.edu!travel (Ron Gines) 

AVD=>I would like to find out if LU6.2 is offered on an OS/2
AVD=>platform.  I need to make an AS/400 talk to a Unix box
AVD=>or PS/2.  Any pointers, references, help will be greatly
AVD=>appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Of course.  It is built into the Extended Services that IBM sells for
OS/2.  It is a full implementation of the LU6.2 layer including full
support for APPC.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
From: yktnews@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: NFS deamon trap D in tar
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:59:59 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In  <ignacij.712275886@meishan.animal.uiuc.edu>  ignacij@meishan.animal.uiuc.edu (Ignacy Misztal) writes:
> I am trying to back-up disk D:, which is a 450 Mbyte FAT partition
> of a 670 Mbyte disk. DOS back-up programs complain about directories
> being over 16 deep, although in fact they are only 4 at the most.
> Ignoring these messages, DOS FASTBACK works, but it loops endlessly
> through the same directories. OS/2 CHKDSK reports no problem.
> I connected the disk to a Sun via
> NFSD in IBM TCPIP 1.2.1, and attempted to tar the d: disk. The
> tar backs about 20 files, and then causes trap 000d in NFSD. Did
> anybody try to back-up the OS/2 files remotely via TCPIP? What could be
> wrong with NFSD? The maximimum read and write sizes  on the
> SUN for are set to 4k, and NFSD works quite well for transmission
> of large, single files.

Hi Ignacy,

    Where did you tar the d: drive to? Can you post the tar syntax you used here?
I tried the following way:
    /u/gao>tar -cf dance.tar tmp
            where the tmp is a mounted directory from os2 system ---- the d: drive of
                                                                 dance.watson.ibm.com

    I didn't get the trap D. However, I got the RPC reply failed. I will investigate
this problem.

    Please provide detail information in order to reproduce the problem here. Thanks,

KeJia
IBM Watson Research Center.                     GAO@watson.ibm.com

P.S.  I assume you are running OS/2 2.0. Is this correct?
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
From: orville%weyrich@tnet.com (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: Including OS/2 in a small work-group
Reply-To: tnet.com!weyrich!orville
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 07:08:26 GMT

Hi --

I am really trying hard to find a use for OS/2 :-)

But I keep coming up with missing pieces to every puzzle I try to solve.

Can anyone help me find the missing pieces?

OS/2 has a great HPFS that would make it well suited for a usenet news
server (for example). :-)

For about $300/node I can set up TCP/IP and NFS to share files between
OS/2 and MS-DOS/Windows platforms :-(

If I leave OS/2 out of the picture, I can use Novell NetWare Lite to get
the same functionality as TCP/IP and NFS in a small local area net, for
only about $70/node. :-)

But then I am stuck with a FAT file system. :-(

What I really want is Novell NetWare Lite for OS/2 or else a much cheaper
source for TCP/IP and NFS for DOS/Windows [I want DOS nodes to be able to
"publish" network volumes as well as "mount" them.]

Does anyone have any idea of a way that I can get this functionality at a
reasonable cost?

I don't consider Novell Regular 2.xx or 3.xx to be reasonable cost --
what I want is a simple inexpensive peer-to-peer network that 8086
and 80286 processor nodes can participate in.

Or have the vendors involved (Novell, IBM, etc.) conspired to suppress
the functionality that I want in order to enhance sales of more expensive
solutions [that may be worth it if I needed their full functionality,
which I don't]? :-(

Someone on the net suggested that I get a patch for OS/2 that would run
NWLITE in a DOS box, but I can't find the file "netwlsrv.zoo" on the
FTP server that I was told to look on [hobbes] -- I think that they just 
reorganized their directory structure. Anyone know where to get this 
patch?


orville

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
From: ignacij@meishan.animal.uiuc.edu (Ignacy Misztal)
Subject: NFS deamon trap D in tar
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:24:46 GMT

I am trying to back-up disk D:, which is a 450 Mbyte FAT partition
of a 670 Mbyte disk. DOS back-up programs complain about directories
being over 16 deep, although in fact they are only 4 at the most. 
Ignoring these messages, DOS FASTBACK works, but it loops endlessly
through the same directories. OS/2 CHKDSK reports no problem.
I connected the disk to a Sun via	
NFSD in IBM TCPIP 1.2.1, and attempted to tar the d: disk. The
tar backs about 20 files, and then causes trap 000d in NFSD. Did
anybody try to back-up the OS/2 files remotely via TCPIP? What could be
wrong with NFSD? The maximimum read and write sizes  on the
SUN for are set to 4k, and NFSD works quite well for transmission 
of large, single files.
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Ignacy Misztal			E-mail: ignacy@uiuc.edu
University of Illinois		Phone: (217) 244-3164
1207 W. Gregory Dr.
Urbana, IL 61801
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
From: u560115@beta.lanl.gov (Andrew J. Johnson)
Subject: Re: IBM TCP/IP 1.2.1 w/ODINSUP.SYS
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:25:23 GMT

In article <matt.24@bss1.umd.edu> matt@bss1.umd.edu (Matthew Piermarini) writes:
>I have the dist. copy of the Netware Requestor for 2.0 (which works fine), 
>and am now installing IBM TCP/IP 1.2.1.   I have configured everything (the 
>config.sys, net.cfg, protocol.ini) and the machine boots fine with both the 
>Netware and TCP/IP connections working properly.  The problem is that about 
>after 5-10 minutes of TCP/IP use, all the running TCP/IP applications lockup 
>and any new TCP/IP application won't run (returns host unknown or connection 
>invalid, etc).   The Novell links are still fine.   It almost seems like 
>another computer is using the same IP address as this machine, but I can 
>guarantee that is not the case.  Any clues would be helpful.

I have the same problem and reported it to Novell (Problem # 753515)
They say that it has been reported on before and that they are working
on a solution.








-- 
                                       Andy Johnson
                                       Westinghouse Savannah River Company
                                       u560115@lanl.gov
                                       (803) 644-1493
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
From: eletanjm@nuscc.nus.sg (TAN JIN MENG)
Subject: XVision
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 05:15:50 GMT

Has anyone managed to get XVision 4.1 working in Win-OS2 session?

I installed it and then tried running xvision.exe from a Win-OS2 Full
Screen Session but the program aborted with 

"XVision has caused an error in Win-OS2*.
 GP Fault in Module:OS2K286.EXE at 0001:44A6"

Anybody know what's going on?

Thanks

jin meng
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
From: ignacij@meishan.animal.uiuc.edu (Ignacy Misztal)
Subject: 1.2.1 X bugs: when CSDs?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:15:42 GMT

Does anybody know when CSDs for the X in IBM TCP/IP 1.2.1 will be
released? The X eventally ALWAYS locks up, sometimes locking 
the entire system, and when 2 windows are opened from 2 different systems,
one never gets the keyboard. 
On a different issue, when will TCPIP go 32 bit? Perhaps, then it would
help to spped-ip the NFS client. To my surprize, the NFS server is quite
fast.
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Ignacy Misztal			E-mail: ignacy@uiuc.edu
University of Illinois		Phone: (217) 244-3164
1207 W. Gregory Dr.
Urbana, IL 61801
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
From: ignacij@meishan.animal.uiuc.edu (Ignacy Misztal)
Subject: Re: NFS deamon trap D in tar
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:26:42 GMT

ekgermann@tga.com (Eric Germann) writes:

>For what its worth, here are my $0.02.

>I had TCP 1.2 running on OS/2 1.3.  I exported filesystems that were mounted 
>on a Sun Sparc IPC.  The performance was very erratic.  Fast spurt, lon 
>wait...

>Someone told me to sync the time on the PC to the time on the Sun.  When I 
>did this, the performance improved dramtically and there were no more 
>spurts.

>Their reasoning was stale file  handles.  Experts?  Chime in.

>Eric
>germann@austin.onu.edu

How do you sync the time on the PC? By simply setting time? To 
a second, minute?
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Ignacy Misztal			E-mail: ignacy@uiuc.edu
University of Illinois		Phone: (217) 244-3164
1207 W. Gregory Dr.
Urbana, IL 61801
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From: chk@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Christian Kuhtz)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
Subject: ppp package wanted
Date: 31 Jul 92 02:14:26 GMT
Organization: Point of Presence Hamburg

Hi,

does anyone know about an ppp package that is ported to OS/2? I need it
yesterday 8), cause it's the only way to use my host yet - because slip
fails... (but i you know about an slip program like ka9q ported to OS/2
let me know).

Thx...
cu,
  Christian
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From: hamish@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking,bit.listserv.novell,comp.sys.novell
Subject: OS/2 2.0 Requester Problems
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:43:39 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

X-NEWS: waikato comp.os.os2.networking: 726
From: hamish@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking,comp.sys.novell,bit.listserv.novell
Subject: <None>
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:41:37 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand


I have a problem with an OS/2 2.0 PC, running the Netware Requester for OS/2
2.0 (The actual version you have to pay money for...). The basic problem is
that it doesn't seem to want to work when there is no file server on its side
of a cisco router. DOS workstations boot up fine and dandy, but the OS/2
machine gets a timeout talking to server BLAH whenever it boots, and from then
on nothing about the netware requester seems to work. The exact same machine
works fine when connected to a network segment that had a novell file server on
it.

Has anybody else seen this problem? WHat is differnt about the requester for
OS/2 from the DOS shells that causes this problem. Is it the requesters fault
or the Cisco?

PS The cisco is running 8.2(1) or thereabouts while we wait for 9.0(1) or 9.1
to arrive. Will 9.0 or 9.1 cause this problem to go away?


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