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From:         "(Michalis Syrimis)" <msg7038@UXA.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Kupriako Pavepistnmio

Diabazontas auta pou o 105pouloukas@GW grafei tha eithela va pw
ta pio katw:

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>>Sxetika me to mail tou Michali Syrimi (kammia syggenia me ton gvwsto SYrimi
>>ypourgo?):

kamia sxesn me tov ypourgo Gewrgio Syrimn, oute kai me alla atoma me to idio
epitheto (uparxouv arketoi) ektos apo tov adelfo mou Giwrgo Syrimn (dev
eivai o Ypourgos Oikovomikwv :-), alla evas aplos apofoitos tou ATI opws kai
egw alloste).

To posting to eixa steilei priv apo peripou eva mnva, alla dev favnke sth
lista para movo priv apo liges meres.  Oi plnrofories pou edwsa ntav apo
tnlefwvikn syvomilia pou eixa me tnv Kypro.

Se vea tnlefwvikn syvomilia pou eixa tnv Kyriakn ematha kai ta parakatw:
To pavepistnmio syvexizei va eivai isws to kyriwtero thema syzntnsews,
pio symantiko kai apo tis symomilies stn N.Iorkn, avamesa sto kosmo.
>>Pragmati dhmiourghthike problhma me ta gegwnota sthn teleth enarxhs alla
>>kata th gvwmh mou to problhma dhmiourghsan politikoi kai ekklhsia (mh
>>xexnate tes ekloges). Prospathoun dhladh apou bgei pio patriwths kai
>>super-patriwths.

>>H proedros ths dihkousas (prwsorinh) parousiastike sth epitroph paideias
>>ths boulhs thn perasmenh bdomada opu shzhthsan to thema. Kai katholou
>>den efyge apo thn Kypro, aplws nomizw eixe programmatismeno taxidi. H de
>>boulh den apofasise oti prepei na pafthei apo thn thesh ths oute kai kan
>>mporei na thn papsei. Mono o proedros mporei na thn papsei. Kai auto
>>theorite anaxronistiko giati etsi h politeia tha fenetai oti
>>epembenei sta akadhmaika kai to exoun pei polles fores oti to
>>panepisthmio einai anexarthto.
Eixe prongnthei syvedria, autn pou avafera sto prwto mou posting, stnv opoia
n ka. Tsogiwpoulou dev parousiastnke, pragma pou ekswrgnsai ta meln tns boulns,
ta perissotera toulaxistov.
Stn syvedria pou egeive telika, n ka. Tsogiopoulou eipe oti n idia proswpika
xnristnke to olo thema tns teletns twv egkainiwv.  Eipe oti dev thewreise
avagkaio pws o yfipourgos paideias ths Elladas eprepe va prosfwvisei thv
teletn.
Avafere episns oti dev tns eixe avakoivwthei oti eixe stalei mnvnma apo
tov ypourgo paideias ths Elladas,para movo 30 lepta priv tnv teletn twv
egkaiviwn.

S' auto to snmeio epevebei o ypourgos paideias ths Kyprou o opoios ntav parwv
stn syvedriasn kai eipe:
-Me sygxwreite, alla prepei va epembw s'auto to snmeio.
Kyria Tsogiwpoulou sas edwsa proswpika to mnvnma tou kuriou ypourgo
2 meres priv tnv mera twv egkaiviwv. *******************

H bouln apofasise oti n ka. Tsogiopoulou tha prepei eite va paretnthei,
n va pafthei apo tov proedro pou eivai autos pou tnv diorise.
H apofasn psnfnstnkai apo ola ta kommata ektos tou AKEL, dev kserw av
pshfise evavtiov n av apeisxav.
>>Den einai alhthia oti o kosmos apodokhmase tes praxeis ths Tsougiopoulou.
>>Ta kommata plhn tou AKEL exoun katadhkash me antonh glwssa ta gegwnota
>>alla apo osa diavazw stes efhmerides o kosmos tous grafei.
>>>>                                   --------------------
>>>>                                   SWSTOS O KYPRIAKOS LAOS!!
Ti evvoeis dnladn, oti o kosmos dev pisteuei oti leve ta komata, n oti
 apla dev evdiaferetai?

Ta atoma me ta opoia milnsa egw, exouv katadikasei katngornmatika tis
prakseis tns proedrou tns epitropns.
>>To AKEL eipe
>>oti yphrxan kakoi xhrimoi sta egenia alla den prepei na pernoun diastaseis
>>to thema. Kata thn dikh mou apopsei to olo thema fenetai na edhmiourghthei
>>kai pali apo pleuras ekklhsia pou den arese to oti den ekanan agiasmo.
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>>>> AN PRAGMATIKA H TSOUGIOPOULOU PHRE APOFASH NA MHN GINEI AGIASMOS TOTE
>>>> EGW LEW "MPRABO!" KAI THN YPOSTHRIZW. DEN 3ERW AN EKANE ALLES KAKES
>>>> ENERGEIES ALLA EDW THN PARADEXOMAI.
Peste mas kai giati, av thelete?
>>Exallou o Xrysostomos exagghle thn Paraskeuh oti den einai dynato o Kypriakos
>>laos na enwthei katw apo politiko arxhgo. Bgalte ta symperasmata sas||

Stn bouln egeive thema to kataposo n politikn pou akoloutheite mexri twra
sto pavepistnmio prospathei va probalei tn dikoivwtikotnta tou pavepistnmiou,
dikoivwtiko tha eivai kai to kratos to opoio prospathoume va petuxoume,
parablepovtas kai akoma upobathizontas tnv ethvikotnta kathe koivotntas.
Kati tetoio eivai avtitheto me tis arxes idrusews tou pavepistnmiou pou leve
oti vai mev to idruma tha eivai dukoivwtiko omws n ethvikotnta tns * kathe*
koivotntas oxi movo tha eivai sebastn alla kai tha probaletai mesw tou
pavepistnmiou. Kati poromoio avaferetai kai sto syvtagma gia to kratos.

Stn sygkekrimevn periptwsn tou agiasmou, tha eprepe va givei agiasmos
dioti auto apaitei n paradwsn tns ellnvikns koivwtntas kai otidepote
allo syvithizetai va givetai stn tourkikn koivwtnta (p.x 'agiasmos' apo
tov mouftn).

Exei akoma avafertei oti o Brettavikos Morfwtikos akolouthos epembaivei
stn leitourgia kai stn dioiknsn tou pavepistnmiou.

Egeive akoma thema n periodos pou n proswrivn dioikousa epitropn tha

dieuthnvn to pavepistnmio.  Symfwva me tous kavovismous idrusews (dev
kserw av prepei va lew katastatiko n kati allo) kathe sxoln tha eivai
autovomn kai to pavepistnmio tha dioikoitai apo tnv Prytavia.  Gia va
givei mia sxoln autovomn omws tha prepei va exei 6 diorismevous kathngntes n
15 movima diorismeva meln proswpikou (kathngntes suv bonthoi).  To paraksevo
eivai oti kamia apo tns sxoles pou leitourgouv twra dev plnrei auta ta
krntnria kai gia auto dev mporouv akoma va eivai autovomes.

Mixalns
>>Andreas

>>>> STAVROS.
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Michalis Syrimis
University of Illinois
Urbana-Champaign

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>+>From: msg7038@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michalis  Syrimis)
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