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From: 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za
Subject: Re: Man Utd for the Premier League Title
Organization: Wits University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 11:58:50 RSA

In article <5D709EDEE000F614@knox.bitnet>
PKARLIOT%KNOX.BITNET@UICVM.UIC.EDU writes:
 
>
>      Well, nobody in Manchester United is saying, at least in public, that
>their team WILL win the league title; they are just saying that they are
>playing good football and like their chances for the league title.
 
Everybody has their opinions, I have mine and I think they WILL win the title.
 
>      But this is very different than saying that they will win the title.  You
>never know what can happen in the future.  Or do you have any special
 
Man, you've enlightened me.
 
>predicting talents that nobody else possesses?
 
You dont need talent for predicting, you just predict. Off course, that does
not mean that it necessarily comes true.
 
>      There are a lot of games left pal; you can never know what can happen.
>Unless of course, you have these predicting talents.
 
Repetitive, and boring.
 
>      United "may" win the title, but saying "will" win the title is extremely
>optimistic and very premature.
 
A Greek wanting to teach me English. What a laugh !!
 
>      But crazy people like you can say these things anyway.
>                                                                   Panos
 
Yeah, call me crazy and call Souness a legend. (Giggle, giggle).
 
>P.S. I hope at least you hate Everton as well.
 
I have no reason to hate Liverpool. Actually Im quite happy that they
beat Liverpool this season.
 
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From: torourke@unix1.tcd.ie (Tiernan O'Rourke)
Subject: Re: Give Cantona is due
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:34:12 GMT

In <1k45t0INNmne@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> franck Daphnis <fd10@cornell.edu> writes:

>I am not writing this to start another war between rival English fans,

	Hey that's fair enough - I hope you don't want one between Irish
fans either!

>but as somebody who has been following Eric Cantona for a long time now,
>ever since he was playing for AJ Auxerre and became European champion
>with the under 21 French team.
>I read everywhere on this network that Canto is overrated.  It is,
>however,  clear to me that he is the catalyst for Manchester United
>recent surge in England.  Anybody who has seen him play within a team
>with offensive strategies will agree with me that his vision, flair,
>technic and love for beautiful moves has few equivalent in contemporary
>soccer.  

	Spot on! (ie you're right!) Cantona has been the major reason
why Man. Utd. have hit such a rich vein of form in recent times and it
is now at the stage where the club have enough confidence to play the
odd game without him (as during his recent hamstring injury).His vision
on the ball and his awareness of what those around are doing is superb!
He is also prepared to reward teammates who make a good run with a pass,
something that was lacking in the team.He posesses the ability to turn
any game that he is playing in.

>He is only 26, and if he does not fight with Fergusson and if MU maintain
>its offensive tendencies, in a year or two Cantona may very well become
>the Best player in all of Europe.

	I don't know about this, though! I think Cantona's temprement
means that he will never be able to spend too long in one place.
Something is bound to happen that will upset him - maybe he'll be
dropped for a while, maybe he'll be unhappy with the coaching etc. - who
knows exactly what it'll be, but I think it will happen. And that will
be the end of Cantona and Man. Utd.! But, as Alan Hansen has said, if
Cantona wins Man. Utd. the 92-93 C'ship then he was the best buy of the
season!


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From: bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring)
Subject: Italy - Mexico result
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:43:21 GMT


FIRENZE, ITALY - MEXICO : 2 - 0

(55' R. Baggio)
(80' Maldini)


This was a very brilliant game of the Italians. Mexico showed nothing: they   
only tried not to get a goal against them. In the first half, Di Mauro from
Fiorentina played fantastic, he did everything right. He had the advantage of
a home crowd. You can't say that about Roberto Baggio (about the crowd, not
about his very good performance): everytime he was in possession of the ball
the crowd boo-ed at him (because he went from Fiorentina to Juventus a few
years ago as you sure know). But in the 55 minute he scored a magnificent
goal and after that he became the best man on the field. Brilliant passing,
dribbling etc... Signori (Lazio) and Mancini (Sampdoria) also played a very
good game.


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From: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: U.S. Interregional Soccer League (was Re: US Soccer News and Thoughts)
Keywords: USISL, Connecticut Wolves
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:54:34 GMT
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company, Alameda CA 94501

In article <C19pvy.H7y@hsi.com> archer@hsi.com (Garry Archer) writes:
>
>So there you have it American fans of Association Football.  There _is_
>an _OUTDOOR PROFESSIONAL_ league already in place and ready to start in
>1993.  Albeit it is "only" classed as Professional Division Three status.
>
>The fact remains, the ball is beginning to roll.  Perhaps slowly at first,
>but the USISL have clearly taken the bull by the horns while the pathetic
>APSL (American Professional Soccer League) is dragging its own anchors.
>

I read an article a few months ago about the Bay Area USISL teams. One
team was getting crowds of just over 100, the rest were in two
figures. I hate to sound negative over something that's clearly a step
in the right direction, but I'd be hard pressed to describe such a
setup as "professional".

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From: RONNIE@psy.glasgow.ac.uk ("RONNIE THOMPSON" )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: FANZines
Date: 22 Jan 1993 09:35:39 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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To:            s947607%umslvma.bitnet@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca
Reply-to:      rec-sport-soccer@cs.utexas.edu
From:          cbar26@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Subject:       Re: FANZines
Date:          22 Jan 93 11:45:23 GMT
Organization:  Strathclyde University VAX Cluster




>   I have always found Follow Follow to be very right on when it comes to
> racism, naturally they like to take digs at Celtic fans and I'd expect no
> less, just don't try and pass that off as being religious bigotry.
>
I'm all for Celtic/Rangers rivalry.  Rivalry is an essential part of football.
But I will always try to point out where I think it becomes bigoted or racist
or just plain socially unacceptable.

Hear Hear.There will always be Old Firm rivalry.
We all have to live with it and stop being petty when discussing it.
From: dc92amn@brunel.ac.uk (Ashuin M Naik)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: q    q
Date: 25 Jan 93 01:14:00 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

sunday

wolves 0 bolton 2
sheff wed 1 sunderland 0
norwich 0 tottenham 2
barnsley 4 west ham 1
 

saturday

division 2

west bromwich 1 stoke 2  - a phenomenal 29341 saw stoke go 21 games 
			   unbeaten and go 10 points clear of albion
From: mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Celtic Fans' Loyalty (was Ranger`s fans)
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:48:15 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1993Jan21.164910.18678@spider.co.uk>, scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson) writes:
> In article <1993Jan19.185601.2897@dct.ac.uk> mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell) writes:
>>
>>  exactly. The 50 or so who follow east fife or whoever far and wide are just
>>as loyal as celtic fans. And as for the m 'loyal fans in the world', this is
>>absolute bull***t, if they were as loyal as the media especially the Daily
>>Record claim, then their average attendance would be a lot nearer the capacity
>>of their crumbling dump which masquerades as a football ground. the crowd at
>>parkhead has only gone above 20000 when rangers, united, aberdeen, hearts and
>>hibs are playing, and in the cases of rangers, hearts, hibs, this is only
>>achieved through very large travelling supports. 
>>
>>example:
>>
>>the celtic v new zealand friendly last season was free entry, only 7300 turned
>>up, which out of a capacity of 40000 odd is pathetic. 
> 
> There were only 16,000 at Celtic Park last night to see them score their
> first goal of 1993 in a cup replay against Clyde. That's loyalty for you.

of which around 2000 were clyde fans!!!!

> 
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From: mostosi@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (federico mostosi)
Subject: Re: Serie B! Serie B!
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:14:34 GMT

roberto@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Roberto Ricca) writes:


>I am a Juventus fan and have a different thought.  It is called 22.
>It is absolutely not a pity that Inter fans can't say the same thing.

>So, please, don't use Inter and Juventus in the same derogatory sentence!

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I thought that here such stupid competition were out!!
But maybe I'm wrong.

So if you want to speak about numbers, do you remember 39??(shame)!!!!!

This is not because I want to start a new stupid competition, but to say
that if we became to do that we 'll never end!!
SO STOP THIS and use this to write about soccer team, not soccer fans!!!




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From: P.Crosland@frec.bull.fr (Pierre Crosland)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Girondins de Bordeaux
Date: 25 Jan 1993 08:05:13 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

> 
> We are severals "Girondins de Bordeaux" supporters at DESS Genie Logiciel of
> Bordeaux University. We propose to edit comments and results of every match
> at home. Every one will give his opinion and comments.
> 
> See our messages next week.
> 
> [DR]
> 
	Excellente idee. Vous avez deja du lire quelques E-Mail provenant de
	Kent Hedlundh (dvlkhh@cs.umu.se) (Umea - SUEDE). Vous pourriez lui
	faire parvenir vous raports afin qu'il les diffuse a l'ensemble de la
	mailing-list.


       Amicalement, Pierre.

P.S. : Pour repondre, j'utilise la commande "Reply" d'ELM mais dans votre
	il y a 2 autres adresses possibles. Donc ne vous affolez pas si vous
	recevez la reponse en 3 exemplaires. Indiquez moi simplement quelle
	la veritable adresse !!
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From: gvanmoor@nrao.edu (Gustaaf Van Moorsel,,,)
Subject: Re: #############  UK fans, PLEASE GO!  ##
Reply-To: gvanmoor@nrao.edu
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 16:55:54 GMT

>In article <1993Jan21.010042.6383@cbfsb.cb.att.com> pampa@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (ruben.a.mazzulla) writes:
>>
>>dear english (scotish/irish/ect) fans please form your own group
>>(rec.soccer.england, rec.soccer.british, rec.soccer.whatever) and
>>make things easier for the rest of us.  there's no need for splitting
>>the existing group!!  ...just leave, the rest will be Ok!
>>

I would suggest Liverpool either gives Souness a lifetime contract or fires
him on the spot. That should reduce the postings in this newsgroup by about 50%. 

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From: susan@umuc.umd.edu
Subject: RE: US/ENGLAND/BRAZIL
Organization: The University of Maryland University College
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:57:37 GMT



U.S. Cup to be played in June, 1993.

June 6  USA v Brazil   New Haven
June 9  USA v England  TBA
June 10 Brazil v Germany TBA
June 12 England v Brazil  RFK (DC)
June 13 USA v Germany   Chicago
June 19 Germany v England  Detroit

At least, that's all I have from the Soccer '94
Washington people.  Maybe other on the net have the
TBAs by now.
From: Dmitriy Zykov <dz@cotton.ivanovo.su>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Spurs to sign Salenkov
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 09:35:28 +0300
Distribution: world
Organization: The Samoylov Cotton Works of Ivanovo
Reply-To: dz@cotton.ivanovo.su




>   >But after that he didn't show much of what he has been expected and
>   >for some time couldn't actually make it to a squad. The new star
>   >appeared in "Dinamo" Kiev - Sergei Yuran, who is now playing for
>   >"Benfica" (I guess). So only after Yuran was traded, Salenko could be
>   >a starter. Recently he was never considered a player for the national
>   >(I mean USSR-CIS) team. He might appear in the Ukraine team now, though.
>
>   If he is a native of Leningrad and only at Kiev because of a trade,
>   then wouldn't he be qualified to play for Russia/CIS instead of
>   Ukraine? Or is he dual-qualified or something?
>
  It's good question, dear Dan! It was very great problem for UEFA after
the crash of USSR. But UEFA finded good solution: every player from ex-USSR
may choose only one of ANY national teams of ANY ex-soviet republic. But after
one game for one team he can't change it. For example, before his transfer
to Benfica, Yuran played in Ukraine only. But he choosed himself national
team of Russia. Alexei Michailitchenko fm Rangers choose Ukraine, Sergei
Kanchelskis fm Manchester United choose Russia... etc.

                                     Good Luck      Dima

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From: tim@research.nj.nec.com (Tim Van Der Avoird)
Subject: Re: USSF F@#$ing IDIOTS!!
Originator: tim@mercury
Organization: NEC Research Institute
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:35:03 GMT

In article <18082@umd5.umd.edu> jrobert@lab7.smcm.edu (Jess Roberts) writes:

>of the match.  Hey guys, even the Europeans, Asians, South Americans, Australians, and probably the Danes care more about the Super Bowl

No, Europeans don't give a F@#$ about the Super Bowl! Stupid game
anyway, American football. Why do they stop the game every five
seconds?

Tim
From: gsin@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Garry Sinclair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Ibrox Flooded
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:52:23 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

In article <C1F4u9.6qH@dcs.ed.ac.uk>, ial@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Iain Lindsey) writes:
> I remember a game two years ago at Pittodrie,Aberdeen when the pitch was waterlogged
> and obviously unplayable for an Aberdeen v Rangers match. However the match was not
> called off with one of the reasons being given was that all the Rangers fans were on
> their way and it would be unfair on them to call it off. What happens this week when
> under the same circumstances Aberdeen are playing Rangers in Glasgow? SFA. A severe
> case of bias methinks!
> 
> Iain

That's a very good point you have raised. I also seem to remember that super Theo
Snelders got injured for months after an "unfortunate clash" with Ally McCoist in
that game. 
Quite typical of the crap referees we have in Scotland that incidents like that were
allowed to happen. 

Garry.
From: zuvec@westminster.ac.uk (Kostaky Savva)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: What is with Liverpool
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:51:35 GMT
Organization: University of Westminster
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

simonh@napier.uk.sun.com (Simon Hunt - Sun EHQ) writes:
: 
: 
: In article D933DDEC0000819D@knox.bitnet, PKARLIOT%KNOX.BITNET@UICVM.UIC.EDU writes:
: >       Hi there,
: >          Liverpool is not doing well this year and I think there are some
: 
: Oh really - what do you define 'not doing well' to be?  If you mean they won't
: win anything then you're undoubtedly right.  But with Liverpool's resources it
: will be a matter of time until they buy their way out of trouble.  They're not
: in any danger of relegation are they?  I'm a Gillingham supporter...(honest)

Liverpool are only 6-9 points above the bottom three. Considering that at the 
moment they are not an 'in-form' club, that can be quite worrying. And      
Liverpool's resources have been stretched for building a new stand. Also there
is'nt any players worth buying at the moment (except Ferdinand)
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From: J.Darrington@bradford.ac.uk (J DARRINGTON)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: English FA Cup 4th round results, Sat 23 Jan
Date: 28 Jan 93 11:29:14 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: s9191@compute
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

constantinos.n.tsioras (jcostas@cbnewsb.cb.att.com) wrote:
: FA CUP 4th ROUND
: Luton          1  Derby Co.   5  (Derby were 4-0 up at half-time)

WRONG!
Derby were initially down 1-0, but by half-time it was 3-1 in their favour.

Up the Rams.

Bolton - Prepare to be smashed.

	
	Jon.
From: Fergie
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Gerry Francis
Date: 19 Jan 1993 17:03:05 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems UK Ltd.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: napier.uk.sun.com


Dear all,

Hello, Alex Ferguson here.  Lots of people have asked me what it was 
that I said to Gerry Francis at last night's game.  Well, I gave him a 
jolly good rebuke for telling that well-known hard man Andy 'Hitman' 
Sinton to clobber 'little' Paul Parker.  I also pointed out that our 
tracksuit jackets are much better than theirs, and he seemed to take 
real offence to this.  But best of all was when we were separated and 
the linesman had a word with us and, just at the last moment, I poked 
my tongue out at him and called him a wally, and then quickly ran off 
before he could call me a name back.

At the end of the game I didn't shake his hand because everyone knows 
he's got fleas and, well, he does smell a bit.  And that hairdo of his 
just doesn't look right without the sideburns.  And of course, the only 
reason his team beat us on 1 Jan 1992 was because we were all feeling 
unwell because we'd been out to a birthday party the day before.  And 
what a jolly party it was too, lots of jelly and ice cream.


Love, 
	Alex
From: rcampb@cac.washington.edu (Russ Campbell )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Please *don't* split r.s.s.
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:03:41 GMT
Organization: UW Computing
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: redx.cac.washington.edu

In article <1993Jan22.122128.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>, cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan21.062424.3334@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, jrod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (J. Rodriguez) writes:
|> > There has been much talk again about splitting the newsgroup.  Now it is again
|> > about rec.sport.soccer.british and rec.sport.soccer.everywhere.else.
|> >
|> >                       <good points deleted>
|> >
|> > Hopefully Garry, Dan, Marco, Kent, and everyone else will respond about this
|> > again.  It seems that we have had many many many [too many] discussions about
|> > this recently.  :-(
|> 
|> I agree with you entirely, John. I certainly don't want to have to subscribe to
|> three or more newsgroups to find out about football the world over. I don't
|> read every message in this group and find it quite quick to get through 300+
|> messages if I have to - I can't understand why a few others see it as such a
|> big problem.
|> 
|> Alan

I agree also.  Speaking from the football news/broadcast wasteland that is
Seattle, Washington, USA, Earth, Milky Way >slap<  er, where was I?  Oh,
yes.  r.s.s. is unfortunately my biggest source of football news here and
I'd much rather just have one group to wade through with some kill
functions than two or more groups.  Guaranteed I'd read all of them and my
employer really wouldn't appreciate that.  8-)  Not to belabour the point
but let's just keep things as is and quit having this damnable discussion
every time the last half of the English season begins.  About the only
thing I'd like to see is people take their personal disputes to e-mail
instead of embarrassing themselves by SHOUTING profanities and other,
utter nonsense in the public forum so the rest of us have excess articles
from pig-headed loonies to wade through.  No problem for me with xrn
newsreader's nice kill buttons but others don't have the luxury of
sophisticated news reading software.

TTFN,

-russ
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