From: yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich)
Subject: Re: Massachusetts gets tough -- and CSAM
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 14:24:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.172237.13598@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com> smiles@NMC.ED.RAY.COM (Kevin Ruddy) writes:
>On the 6AM morning news a few days ago, I groggily heard the anchor saying
>that there is a vicious child support bill now headed through the
>Massachusetts legislature?  Or soon?  (I said I was groggy ...)  Does anyone
>know what this is or how I can find out, so I can get in contact with my
>local rep and senator, and chairpeople of the right committees, etc.?
>
>I hereby propose myself to perform activities on behalf of the Child Support
>Alliance of Massachusetts.  I don't have a lot of time, but I can't stand
>by idly any longer, wishing things would change.  I've got to do something.
>Nothing is ever going to change unless I (and any other MA [un]fortunates)
>get out there and start writing, calling, and speaking to the people who
>are responsible for this stuff.
>
>And I'd call it Child Support Alliance over Child Supporters Alliance solely
>because it aides *our* side by obfuscating the fact that the group is for (I
>assume) normal and realistic levels of support.  By calling it Child
>Supporters Alliance it is clear where we sit -- on the side of the
>supporters.  Never show your hand until you must, right?
>
>Kevin
>
>(Now for the really important question: is that pronounced s-zam, or just
> zam??)
>-- 
>Kevin.Ruddy@NMC.ED.RAY.COM


	1) First of all I support any effort you make (and whatever you'd
	like to call it)

	2) But 2nd of all, did you see my list of phone #'s of father's
	rights groups that I posted?  I know an individual who has
	a great wealth of info about "the process", as well as actual
	case reports from Mass.  Are any of you listening to me?
	The answer to all this is to be unified.  That, it turns out,
	is the qualifier for my receiving this information.  That we
	be organized. I have called the phone number that I posted.
	There is a recording.  There is also information about when
	meetings are held in Springfield and Brookline.

	Let's try to carry on one conversation instead of having
	"sprouts" spring up here & there.

	I suggest that we investigate this local group 1st.  Se where
	they stand.  See if it's BS, or if we should "add" to their
	efforts of an already organized group.

	I'm sure that if they are legit, they know a tad more about
	where things are going in Mass.

	I tend not to "be" or to "covet" leadership positions.  I
	have been successfull in the past in organizing and motivating
	small groups of people and seeing successfull outcomes.

	I don't care who the "leader" is.  But let's carry on one
	conversation about this.

	You know, I can only draw the most negative conclusions about
	how, so far, my initial encouragements toward unity and
	communications in Mass have fallen on their face.  I see it as,
	"Oh, "so&so" is "up-in-arms" again.  And we each in turn get
	pissed like this and want to start something.  Please realize
	one thing.  Whoever becomes a spearhead will have to deal
	with all the rest of us who are getting ignored.  That, in fact,
	is the point.  The numbers.  The numbers of ALL of us.

	So let's ferrite out what's going one locally. And let's
	try to communincate rather than ignore one another.

	Then we can join an already existing effort, or start our
	own.

-- 
	Alan Yasutovich
	"inquiring  (and nosey) minds WANT TO KNOW!!!"
	I can remember when "safe sex" meant having a padded headboard!!
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