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From: sanelson@milton.u.washington.edu (S. A. Nelson)
Subject: YB-70 kits?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 23:23:45 GMT

	Hi. I was wondering if anyone could direct me to a good plastic  kit
 of the YB-70 "Valkyrie." I am actually in some doubt as to whether one exists
at all, and I'm fairly new to model building, so I'm not sure where to look.
E-mail responses are fine. Thanks in advance,


Sunny Nelson
sanelson@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: alt.models
From: djredick@bluemoon.rn.com (Darrin J. Redick)
Subject: Re: YB-70 kits?
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 08:52:33 EDT

rray@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Randy J. Ray) writes:

> > 
> 
> The Valkyrie was under development when they were still using X prefixes for
> prototypes, so it will be listed in catalogs as the XB-70 Valkyrie.
> 
> The only kits I know of are Lindberg's 1/180 injection molded offering, and
> Contrail's 1/72 scale vac-u-form. BIG model. Damn big. Not an easy vac, eithe
> One of the harder vacs on the market. But damn impressive to see, when built.
> 

Well, I hate to nitpick here, but the X did NOT mean prototype.  Y did.
X stood for eXperimental.  It never got out of that stage, though.  Just
to set the record straight on that.

As far as Lindberg's model goes...it's accurate, if nothing else.  I feel,
however, that they should have included some sort of engine detail.  That,
plus some sort of cockpit.  Other than those 2 shortcomings, I like it.
Haven't seen the 1/72 version, though.


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Newsgroups: alt.models
From: edhresko@hresko.EOS.NCSU.EDU (ERIC DAVID HRESKO)
Subject: aasche Airbrushes
Originator: edhresko@c00562-1403br.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: edhresko@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: Techno-Geeks Inc.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:34:57 GMT



	I just recently bought a Paasche gravity feed airbrush (VSR90 #1) and
I am wondering if anyone out there has any experience with it?

Eric
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From: matt@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: Clean Your Airbrush!
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:34:39 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Aug31.184243.26018@daimi.aau.dk>, lhp@daimi.aau.dk (Lasse Hiller|e Petersen) writes:
> rray@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Randy J. Ray) writes:
> 
[inquiries about the true efficacy of airbrushing deleted]

I too am one of those who does mostly conventional brushing as opposed to
airbrushing.  The reason is that for me it takes far too much time to be
worth it.  I have to move everythin out to the garage, and I don't have an air 
compressor so I have to pump up our spare car tyre---frequently.  At present
I have neither the time nor the money for a better setup.  And masking is
usually a royal pain.  For most jobs it's just not worth it. )8-{(  
  However, I agree that an airbrush does a far better job than a regular
brush, and for those models I want to do a REALLY GOOD JOB on I do airbrush
them.  However, I generally wait until I have several models to do at once
as it's such a hassle to set the blasted thing up.  
  In the long and bitter struggle between those who model because they want
to build REALLY GREAT MODELS and those who model because they enjoy it, I
am firmly in the enjoy-it camp.  So, for most models I still use a brush to 
preserve the "fun factor".

Matt
From: tsai@hal.com (Finnegan T. Tsai)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: Tamiya's M1A1
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:35:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HaL Computer Systems
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In article <1992Aug31.153513.5865@sj.nec.com>, paul@brutus.tdd.sj.nec.com (Paul Gordon  x3856) writes:
|> 
|>   A couple of questions for the net wisdom. Over the weekend I noticed that
|> Tamiya had released its M1A1 Abrams kit. Does anyone know if this is a totally
|> new kit or an update of the old M1 kit? The cover shows a Desert Storm paint
|> job - does the kit accurately reflect the DS configuration?

You can check the latest Tamiya magazine which has a very detail review.
Basically it's still the same old M1 kit which contains some updated parts.
The engraving is the typical Tamiya standard: Good, yet not good enough.
Being prepare to use some details parts or scratchbuild one.

|> 
|>   Also I noticed that Kirin (DMLs alter ego) has release an Iraqi T72M1 kit.
|> I could not get a close look at it, so maybe someone could tell me if it is
|> a resin or plastic kit? If it is the later, is it based upon the standard
|> (and inaccurate) DML kits?
|> 

It's a styrene kit. A new turret(?) and separate track links.



-finny
From: loydb@fnordbox.UUCP (Loyd Blankenship)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: Images of Models
Distribution: usa
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Date: 27 Aug 92 22:44:14 CST
Organization: Texas Net Illuminati

tomatt@frosty.lerc.nasa.gov (Matthew Velazquez) writes:
>agwiii@fang.att.com (Grayson Walker (660-7949)(12/92)) writes:
> > 3. Post a GIF of your completed model.
>
> Now THERE is one hell of an idea.  The only problem is that we now need a
> scanner. I just might be able to scrounge something on a temporary basis,
> but I'm not making any promises. I'll keep in touch.
>

I've got a Microtek 35 mm slide scanner. If someone really wants to post a
GIF, I could scan from a slide, convert to GIF, and post it. I don't
guarantee a 2-day turnaround or anything, but it could be done. Seems like
a high use of bandwidth, though...

Loyd

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From: andy@b30.ingr.com (Andrew Brezinski)
Subject: Re: Clean Your Airbrush!
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:29:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.184243.26018@daimi.aau.dk> lhp@daimi.aau.dk (Lasse Hiller|e Petersen) writes:
>rray@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Randy J. Ray) writes:
>
>>Just a note, especially to the newer airbrush users. Clean the things
>>completely after every use. It may take time, but do it. I somehow got out of
>>the habit of doing so. For about 3 months. I just spent an hour scraping grunge
>>out of my Paasche H with a sewing needle
>
>I guess this is one of the reasons I hesitate to "advance" to
>airbrush painting. The two others are the price, and the fact that
>I mainly build 1/72, where I don't find the use of airbrush justified.
>
>Somehow, however, I find myself a minority in this newsgroup.
>
>Of course, a good sabre brush needs thorough cleaning too, but it seems
>this is not as time-consuming as cleaning an airbrush.
>
>So, how much time to you generally use on cleaning, compared to
>actual painting? I tend to build when I find a spare minute, and
>this spontaneity doesn't match too well with a lot of preparation
>and clean-up.
>
>And what about the finish - how much better is airbrushing really at
>such a small scale, when compared to brush-painting?
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The answer to all of these questions might just make you consider changing
your mind.

I just recently started airbrushing.  First of all, the airbrush is not
really comparable to a regular (bristled) brush, but rather a spray can.
I spend about ten to fifteen minutes thoroughly cleaning my airbrush.
But I do this after I spray several coats (allow 30 to 45 minutes in
between).  In between coats, I spray a little thinner through it and
it's okay to sit for a while.  Thorough cleaning requires taking it apart
and after a few times,  it becomes second nature.

I tend to build also, when I have a spare minute, but I usually know 
when that times is going to come and can generally be prepared for it.

As for finish quality, a spray can usually has three to four times worse
"orange-peel" than my airbrush and it isn't that outstanding.  Compared
to a bristle brush, the finish is infinitely better, but you probably
use flat colors which tend to be easier to use across the spectrum.

The most important thing about any hobby is to have fun.  If you think that
an airbrush would ruin the fun factor, I'd say don't do it.  For me, an
airbrush was almost a must; I mostly build cars and they requires a really
smooth finish to look right.  An airbrush makes life a lot easier for
me.

Andy Brezinski
Intergraph Corporation
Huntsville, AL 35894-0001
From: aq479@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul E. Sincaglia)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: YB-70 kits?
Date: 3 Sep 1992 14:13:13 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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I must say that the Lindberg kit was kind of disapointing
considering it took a fair amount of effort to obtain and was
not all that spectacular to build.  (I bought and built the model
about 7 years afo, and even then it was hard to find)

I suppose I would do much better work if I> wewe to build it
no but for the $$ I could definately buy a more challenging
and fun project.

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From: ratinox@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Richard Pieri/Stainless Steel Rat)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: Clean Your Airbrush!
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:22:39 GMT
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>>>>> "LHP" == Lasse Hiller|e Petersen <lhp@daimi.aau.dk> writes:

LHP> So, how much time to you generally use on cleaning, compared to
LHP> actual painting? I tend to build when I find a spare minute, and
LHP> this spontaneity doesn't match too well with a lot of preparation
LHP> and clean-up.

Depends on what I'm painting. I tend to use the airbrush for larger areas,
and use small bristle brushes for detail work. Since I use water-based
acryllics, cleanup is pretty quick and easy: put some alcohol in a clean
cup, hook it up to the feeder, spray a bit, then let it dry. Once I've
finished with the airbrush, I take it apart and do a more thorough
cleaning. Actually setting up my compressor, clean work area, laying down
the drop cloth, etc., isn't very spontaneous.

LHP> And what about the finish - how much better is airbrushing really at
LHP> such a small scale, when compared to brush-painting?

I've seen some really incredible detail work done with fine-needle
airbrushes, better than a lot of bristle brush work. It's really a matter
of what your most comfortable working with, though. As I said, I prefer
using bristle brushes for fine details, while I use the airbrush for large
areas and when I want two colors to blend into each other (I've gotten some
really nice results this way for the USAF and Navy grey on grey aircraft
color schemes).

--Rat

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From: rray@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Randy J. Ray)
Subject: Re: Photoetched Fittings for Ships
Organization: US WEST Communications, Inc. -- Denver, CO
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:11:15 GMT

In article <24AUG199216042372@rosie.uh.edu>, st1ec@rosie.uh.edu (Tse, Oliver) writes:
> Has anyone read the book PHOTOETCHING FOR THE PLASTIC SHIP MODELER by Loren
> Perry?  It's sold by Gold Medal Models and has been advertised in FSM for 
> sometime now.  Is the book worth buying?  At $8 and 32 pages, that sounds
> pricey.  Besides, I've got a funny feeling that the book is just addition
> advertisement for their fittings.  Well, if you have additional comments, I
> would greatly appreciate it.  Thanks for your replies.
> 

Well, it will hawk his fittings a lot, yes. Loren has turned nasty in the last
year or so, since more people (Tom's Modelworks, Flagship Models) have entered
the industry. He has even attacked Rusty White of Flagship Models in editorials
of Model Ship Builder, although he has not mentioned Rusty by name.

As for the book, it is probably worth reading. He does know his stuff.

Randy
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From: jft@cc.tut.fi (Takala Janne)
Subject: Re: Request for modelshops and bookshops in Helsinki
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: sfnet
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 16:57:03 GMT


In <1992Aug27.133317.1@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi> hakoskinen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi (Harri Koskinen) writes:

>In article <1992Aug26.141541.27256@spider.research.ptt.nl>, H.C.J.Hilberink@research.ptt.nl (Bert Hilberink) writes:
>> This weekend I will leave for Helsinki for a business trip of 3 days.
>> I have some time to look around, but I don't have addresses of good,
>> nice modelshops and bookshops. My main interest is aviation, all
>> scales, WWI to present (especially WWII luftwaffe). Can somebody give
>> me a tip?
>>
>Here there are addresses of some modelshops and bookshops in Helsinki:
> 
>The best modelshop in Helsinki is in 'Ruoholahdenkatu' street. Unfortunately 
>my colleague who told me about this didn't remember the name or the exact 
>address of the shop, but it lies near the corner of 'Hietalahdenkatu' street. 
>I hope you find it.

	The name of the shop is "Tieto-Nikkari". I was about to make a post
	earlier, but couldn't remember the address. Thanks Harri. :-)

>Scale models are sold also by 'Askartelukeskus' at Olavinkatu 1 (beside
>Ramada Presidentti Hotel) and 'Stockmann' department store in the corner
>of Mannerheimintie and Aleksanterinkatu. Personally I don't know the size
>of their selection of models.

>The biggest selection of aviation (and also other) books has 'Akateeminen
>kirjakauppa' in the corner of Keskuskatu and Pohjoisesplanadi (just across 
>the street from Stockmann, at the eastern side).

>The other bookshop to visit is 'Suomalainen kirjakauppa' at
>Aleksanterinkatu 23 (again across the street from Stockmann, but at the
>northern side).

>In Finland the bigger shops close on weekdays between 6 and 8 pm., the
>smaller ones might close already at 5 pm. On Saturdays the closure varies
>between 1 pm. and 6 pm.

>-----
>Harri Koskinen
>hakoskinen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
>Nokia Telecommunications
>Espoo, Finland

	What about the "Aviation Hobby Shop"? I have never visited it as
	I'm not particulary interested in aviation, but I've been told it
	has excellent selection of books and hobby material. I don't remember
	it's adress :) but I can check it and post later. Shopping hours
	are very limited though, perhaps only on saturdays :(.

	And don't get surprised by the Tamiya prices ... :(

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From: brndlfly@athena.mit.edu (Matthew T Velazquez)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: YB-70 models
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:35:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

I.D. Models makes a





				1/48




yes, you heard it,





				1/48



scale Valkyrie.  It's something like a hundred bucks, so I'd just as soon 
scratchbuild one, but there you have it.




			-T

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From: gse@ida.liu.se (Goran Sedvall)
Subject: Re: News from Verlinden:(Was: REVIEW: Verlinden 120mm Isra...)
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 06:04:09 GMT

BTW, I saw what I belive is a very new figure from verlinden. I was
a 120 mm medvial archer and that figure is probably one of the best
they made so far. The figure had one eye closed and looked very charming.
I would lovely reccomend that figure.

Then, I have a question:
Verlinden-Letterman have an special offer for members of Master Club.
The offer is two german figures I realy want to buy but I don't want
to pay memberchip. Is there anyone who are a member who want to do me a 
favor?

Goran

Newsgroups: alt.models
From: kelley@samwise.colorado.edu 
Subject: Parts For Thimble Drone
Keywords: Gas Car
Organization: Colorado Center for Astrodynamics Research
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:14:30 GMT

I am needing new tires for a 1940 Thimble Drone
gas car.  Does anyone know where I might try to
find the rear tires and the front wheels.

Thanks.

Tim Kelley
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From: rray@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Randy J. Ray)
Subject: Aircraft contest in Ogden, UT in November
Organization: US WEST Communications, Inc. -- Denver, CO
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:29:01 GMT

Just found out about a model contest in Ogden, Utah, in November. Anyone from
the university there reading this who could tell me more about it? Where it's
at, how to get there, registration times & cost, are questions that spring to
mind...

Randy
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From: tsai@hal.com (Finnegan T. Tsai)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: Clean Your Airbrush!
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:40:11 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems
NNTP-Posting-Host: molly.hal.com

In article <1992Aug31.184243.26018@daimi.aau.dk>, lhp@daimi.aau.dk (Lasse Hiller|e Petersen) writes:
|> rray@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Randy J. Ray) writes:
|> 
|> >Just a note, especially to the newer airbrush users. Clean the things
|> >completely after every use. It may take time, but do it. I somehow got out of
|> >the habit of doing so. For about 3 months. I just spent an hour scraping grunge
|> >out of my Paasche H with a sewing needle
|> 
|> I guess this is one of the reasons I hesitate to "advance" to
|> airbrush painting. The two others are the price, and the fact that
|> I mainly build 1/72, where I don't find the use of airbrush justified.
|> 
|> Somehow, however, I find myself a minority in this newsgroup.
|> 
|> Of course, a good sabre brush needs thorough cleaning too, but it seems
|> this is not as time-consuming as cleaning an airbrush.
|> 
|> So, how much time to you generally use on cleaning, compared to
|> actual painting? I tend to build when I find a spare minute, and
|> this spontaneity doesn't match too well with a lot of preparation
|> and clean-up.
|> 
|> And what about the finish - how much better is airbrushing really at
|> such a small scale, when compared to brush-painting?
|> --

Well, my opinion is you have to get used to the airbrushing.
The boring setup and cleaning steps are just the standard procedure.
Think about you want to paint a car body or apply the metalizer,
the airbrush is the only choice. Denying airbrushing only implies
that you have lost one major fun of kit buildings.

I currently own Paasche VL and new Testors airbrush and feel quite
happy with them.


-finny
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From: bednarek@picard.med.ge.com (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971)
Subject: Re: Testers Model Master Airbrush
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 05:54:26 GMT

I have one for several years.  Its great on model cars, and military
equipment (camoflage patterns).  It also puts yuo in the poor house 
on compressed air cans, so get a pump if you can afford one right away.

dennis

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From: jft@cc.tut.fi (Takala Janne)
Subject: Re: Request for modelshops and bookshops in Helsinki
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: sfnet
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 17:31:37 GMT



	Allright, the addresses are:

	Tieto-Nikkari, Ruoholahdenkatu 20, open mo-fri 9-17, sat 10-12

	Aviation Shop, Kajanuksenkatu 12, open wed 17-19, sat 10-14

	I hope this helps.

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