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From: Curt.Hamilton@med.umich.edu (Curt Hamilton)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: ethertalk and localtalk at the same time
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Date: 12 Jan 1993 17:09:21 GMT
Organization: University o' Michigan Radiology
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.214.96.24

Hey now, Brett,
	    A couple of ideas.
     Apple Internet Router can turn a Mac into a LocalTalk-EtherTalk
router. It runs in the background and is available from Apple.
     Liason is a third party product that does the same thing. Company name
escapes me. WARNING: These are routers and need to be properly configuired,
if you are part of a larger AppleTalk network. Talk to you local networking
people.
    Buuuutttt, you may not have to do this, if you are not part of a large
AppleTalk network. If the big network doesn't support AppleTalk, let's say
only TCP/IP (Or you don't care about the other AppleTalk devices), you can
easily configure your Mac to speak two different protocals through two
different wires. No additional software needed. 
     Let me know if you need more info.

curt
Curt.Hamilton@med.umich.edu
From: moyman@ecn.purdue.edu (Mike Moya)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: LW IIg on EtherTalk
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:00:47 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

At 12:06 PM 1/12/93 -0500, markf@knot.QueensU.CA wrote:
>>
>With the new version of PostScript in LaserWriter IINTR, IIg, IIf, Personal
>LaserWriter NT the code I used to change the Name Binding Type (NBP) in the
>PRAM (or EEROM) of the laserwriter does not work.  I have been able to
>change the type, until you power cycle the laserwriter.
>
>It appears the NBP type is nolonger stored in EEROM, can anyone confirm
>this or supply the correct postscript code to change the NBP type and store
>it in EEROM.
>
Yes, Apple refers this behavior to be a feature. I refer to it as a pain in
my ass. What little security we *were* able to do... and they take it away
with the flip of the power switch. Thank you Apple for making my job
tougher. 

I ended up having to throw in papif code to rename/retype (with some name
guessing) the Laserwriter should it not respond to what it *should* be
named/typed... What a hack.
--moya

--Mike Moya
--Macintosh Systems and Networking
--Engineering Computer Network
--Purdue University
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: CAP aufs desktop problem (2)
From: bruce-b@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Bruce Benson)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:21:25 GMT
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: computer Science

Given that there were a few informative replies to the problem of getting
the root directory of an aufs volume to display as a user wanted I thought
I'd have another try at getting help me with this.

Basically, if I double click on a document for which the application is on
an aufs volume the application will not be found unless the folder which it
is in is currently open.

I setup a server volume, copied Resedit onto it then deleted it from my
disk. I double clicked on a Resedit document and was told that the
application could not be found. I opened it the folder (the server volume)
it was in, double clicked on the document and the application was found.
When I closed the folder again it wasn't found... It behaves the same way
for things in the top level of a server or for things in folders in a
server.

My machine is a Q700 running 7.01 but it happens on anything. The server is
a DecStation 500/200 running Ultrix 4.1 and CAP 6.0pl125.

Here is the directory structure of the server called test_mac.

drwxr-xr-x  2 bruce-b       512 Jan 12 14:57 .finderinfo
drwxr-xr-x  4 bruce-b       512 Jan 12 14:59 test

test:
total 10
drwxr-xr-x  4 bruce-b       512 Jan 12 14:59 .
drwxr-xr-x  8 bruce-b       512 Jan 12 14:55 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 bruce-b       251 Jan 12 14:57 .ADeskTop
-rw-rw-r--  1 bruce-b      4880 Jan 12 14:49 .IDeskTop
drwxr-xr-x  2 bruce-b       512 Jan 12 15:00 .finderinfo
drwxr-xr-x  2 bruce-b       512 Jan 12 14:57 .resource
-rwxr-xr-x  1 bruce-b         0 Jan 12 14:48 ResEdit

test/.finderinfo:
total 3
drwxr-xr-x  2 bruce-b       512 Jan 12 15:00 .
drwxr-xr-x  4 bruce-b       512 Jan 12 14:59 ..
-rwxr-xr-x  1 bruce-b       300 Jan 12 14:51 ResEdit

test/.resource:
total 738
drwxr-xr-x  2 bruce-b       512 Jan 12 14:57 .
drwxr-xr-x  4 bruce-b       512 Jan 12 14:59 ..
-rwxr-xr-x  1 bruce-b    743448 Jan 12 15:04 ResEdit

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

---
Bruce Benson.   	       	       	       	       ,_o ,__o
Department of Computer Science. 	       	     _-\_\,\_<,
University of Auckland. 	       	       	    (*)/'--/'(*)
b_benson@cs.aukuni.ac.nz
From: hlj@posix.COM (Hal Jespersen)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: CAP on NCR 3000?
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:11:02 GMT
Organization: POSIX Software Group, Redwood City, CA

Hi.  I need to install a link with some Macs from our NCR 3450 running
SVR4.  Does anyone have experience installing CAP60 on these systems?
The install process is quite BSD oriented.  Or, do you have alternative
suggestions for software?  I need telnet and FTP from the Macs and the ability
to print UNIX files out on the Mac's LocalTalk net.  I am running a FastPath
gateway.

Please email me at the address below.  Thanks.

Hal Jespersen
hlj@posix.com
From: sanford@aria.Ascend.COM (Curtis Sanford)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Appletalk client SW for unix (reverse CAP?)
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:44:24 GMT
Organization: Ascend Communications, Alameda CA

My understanding (from the FAQ) is that CAP provides Appleshare server
functionality on a UNIX station.  I would like to turn a UNIX station into
an Appleshare CLIENT, so that it could use CHOOSER functions to mount
volumes on Sys.7 workstations with File Sharing, in order to back them up
to the 8mm 5GB tapedrive available on the UNIX workstation.  Is there
anything around to do this kind of function?

Curtis Sanford
Ascend Communications
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: wade@discovery.arc.nasa.gov (A. Lee Wade)
Subject: Re: ARNS/IPRemote Questions
Organization: NASA Science Internet Project Office
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:36:06 GMT

In article <srp.726337388@cgl.ucsf.edu>, srp@cgl.ucsf.edu (Scott R. Presnell) writes:
...
|> My situation is as follows.
|> 
|> 	1) Mac IIci at home running System 7.0 + tuneup.
|> 	2) Mac SL/IP 1.0 from HydenPark.
|> 
|> I installed Network cp 3.0 and Appletalk 58.0 from the Network Installer
|> available on ftp.apple.com. (as the documentation suggested getting a
|> recent version.)  I installed IPRemote as described.
...
|> For as long as I tested it Async AppleTalk worked fine,  but I'd rather use
|> IPRemote if I can use it at the same time I can keep my IP connections.
|> 
|> My questions are:
|> 
|> 	1) Has anybody else tried running IPRemote over SL/IP and had it
|> work consistently?  I'd be interested in hearing "works for me" if that is
|> the case.
...

We haven't tried IPremoteAT with SLIP, but have had good results with IPremoteAT and
MacPPP (available from merit.edu).  Typical systems are either

	PowerBook 170, System 7.1, MacTCP 1.1.1, Network Install Kit 3.0
or
	PowerBook 170, System 7.0.1 + System 7 Tuner + PowerBook Tuner, MacTCP 1.1

At DTE speed 19.2 and modulation speed 14.4 (V.32bis, V.42, V.42bis) performance is
respectable.  My experience with MacPPP indicates it is more robust and easier to
configure than the SLIP implementation I used.

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: Ari.Ahonen@qm.ajk.tele.fi (Ari Ahonen)
Subject: Re: CAP aufs desktop problem
Organization: TELECOM FINLAND
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:47:22 GMT

In article <trimble.726431386@ph-meter.beckman.uiuc.edu>, trimble@ph-meter.beckman.uiuc.edu (Chris Trimble) writes:
> 
> Magnus.Hjern@malmo.trab.se (Magnus Hjern) writes:
> 
> >If the user would like another layout on his/hers CAP-folders than the
> >standard ones, the changes are not stored by aufs. Even if the
> >ADeskTop and .IDeskTop files are deleted and rebuilt it does not have
> >any effect on the layour. 
> 
>  We've experienced this, also. The problem only exists in the "root"
>  directory of that shared volume. All of the subdirectories will store
>  the files' locations just fine. We have not figured out how to solve
>  this problem and have basically concluded that it's just a bug.
> 
> --
> Chris Trimble	                | Birthday party, 
> 
I had similar problem with the "root" directory. I solved it by making
finderinfo and .resource directories also into parent directory of
aufs "root" directory.

My directory hierarchy looks like following:
<my Unix home directory>
  .
  ..
  .finderinfo
  .resource
  .afpvols
  <other .files>
  mac_files
    .ADeskTop
    .IDeskTop
    .finderinfo
      <Finder info of Mac files>
    .resource
      <resource forks of Mac files>
    <Mac files>
  <other Unix files and directories>
=========================================================================
Ari Ahonen         TELECOM FINLAND/Business Systems R&D            X.400:
                   Phone: +358 0 704 2940  C=FI; ADMD=MAILNET; PRMD=INET;
                   Fax:   +358 0 704 2712  O=TELE; OU1=AJK; OU2=QM;
Internet: Ari.Ahonen
=========================================================================

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: dehaene@esat.kuleuven.ac.be (Wim Dehaene)
Subject: CAP on HP/UX workstation
Organization: Catholic University of Leuven, Belgium
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:06:39 GMT

I have a very simple question:
   Is it possible (and has somebody done it) to run CAP under HP-UX 8.7 with native
   ethertalk. (I mean without convertor-box) I want to go directly from an etherneted
   Mac to the Unix machine. The applications I want to use are lwsrv and aufs.

Answer by e-mail preferably. If necessary I will post a summary.

Wim Dehaene

dehaene@esat.kuleuven.ac.be
From: dplatt@ntg.com (Dave Platt)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Appletalk client SW for unix (reverse CAP?)
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:32:36 GMT
Organization: New Technologies Group, Inc.  Palo Alto CA

In article <5316@aria.Ascend.COM> sanford@aria.Ascend.COM (Curtis Sanford) writes:
>My understanding (from the FAQ) is that CAP provides Appleshare server
>functionality on a UNIX station.  I would like to turn a UNIX station into
>an Appleshare CLIENT, so that it could use CHOOSER functions to mount
>volumes on Sys.7 workstations with File Sharing, in order to back them up
>to the 8mm 5GB tapedrive available on the UNIX workstation.  Is there
>anything around to do this kind of function?

The CAP library does contain the routines necessary to implement the
client side of AFP.  Check out the "ash" program in the samples
directory - it can connect fo an AFP server, list directories, change
directories, and get and put files.

It's rather primitive in its current form, but you could use it as the
basis for a tool which would descend through the directory hierarchy and
read and dump files to tape.

An alternative solution would be to use the Dumper package, which allows
a Mac disk to be dumped to a Unix-disk dumpfile or (with some patches
applied) directly to a Unix tapedrive.  You can pick up the current
official release of Dumper (a.k.a. macdump) from the anonymous-FTP
fileserver at BBN.COM;  the patches needed to support direct tape
dumping were recently posted in this newsgroup.



-- 
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              Domain: dplatt@ntg.com      UUCP: ...netcomsv!ntg!dplatt
 USNAIL: New Technologies Group Inc. 2470 Embarcardero Way, Palo Alto CA 94303
From: evans-cic-is%micmac@REDSTONE-EMH2.ARMY.MIL (Evans-CIC-IS)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Unix to Laserwriter
Date: 6 Jan 93 03:07:39 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I am looking for a utility/INIT that will allow me to print from a UNIX Box to
a Laserwriter (especially from NCSA Telnet).  I have seen the name LPD thrown
around lately, but when I use Archie to find where this util is, I get nothing.
 Any suggestions?

Thanx
Troy
--
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arrested in a sting operation for selling his son, three, to raise about $700
to buy a videocassette recorder.  Essa told police he was forced to do it
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: fredrick@acd.ucar.edu (Timothy Fredrick)
Subject: How can I get lwsrv (CAP 6.0) to work on an IBM AIX system?
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research - Atmospheric Chemistry Div
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:57:29 GMT


We have an IBM AIX 3.2 system that is currently using CAP software to
print to Appletalk-connected printers.  This part of the setup works
great.

We recently attached a PostScript printer (QMS PS1700) directly to the
parallel port of the workstation.  Now we want to use "lwsrv" to allow
Mac users to print to this printer.  What do I need to do to set this up?

So far what I've done is:

      1. Uploaded a copy of LaserPrep from a Mac to /local/cap/dicts
      2. Started lwsrv with the options -n acdps3b -p acdps3
         -a/local/cap/dicts -f /local/cap/LWPlusFonts -T quote8bit

We see the printer "acdps3b" in the chooser and can send output to it.
The print monitor reports no problems and eventually the job appears to
be printed.  But we see nothing on our printer.

Is this because lwsrv is making some assumptions about "lpr"?  I really
didn't undertand the business about LaserPrep at all.  Is it necessary to
put in /local/cap/dicts?  Has anyone else out there ever gotten lwsrv to
work that be willing to offer some suggestions?  If so, I would be grateful.

Thanks in advance.

Tim Fredrick (fredrick@acd.ucar.edu)
Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, PO Box 3000, Boulder, CO 80307-1000 
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: gsgathin@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU (golando s gathings)
Subject: Can PC Macbridge card work with CAP ?
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:46:59 GMT


Does anyone out there know if the PC Macbridge card by Tangent 
Technologies will work with CAP , or Appleshare PC  ?  The card 
look like it would work in a PC or AT class machine  , but I dont know ..

Golando


Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: robrick@erenj.com (Bob Brickman)
Subject: SNMP Support in AppleTalk v 58
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: Exxon Research and Engineering, New Jersey
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:00:43 GMT

   The documentation for the Network Software Installer v 1.3 mentions that
the version 58.0 of Appletalk provides some form of SNMP support but gives
no details. Can anyone provide any more detailed info about what
information the agent is reporting out over my network?

Thanks,
Bob Brickman       <robrick@erenj.com>
  -- disclaimer: the preceding represent my personal opinions and do not
reflect the opinions, policies, or practices of my employer
From: lance@embassy.nsi.com (Lance N. Antrim)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: CAP on BSDI
Keywords: BSDI386 CAP
Date: 5 Jan 93 12:07:39 GMT
Organization: American Academy of Diplomacy, Washington, DC

I am considering moving my system from Xenix to BSDI386 - probably instaled on
a 486-33 or faster machine.  Does anyone have experience or knowledge
with installing CAP to run with BSDI386?  While not my critical
decision factor, this is one reason for moving to the new system (another
is NFS support and better mail handling for a localnetwork).

Hearsay will be useful in lieu of direct experience.  Thanks,

Lance Antrim
Negotiation Systems
lance@nsi.com
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: trimble@ph-meter.beckman.uiuc.edu (Chris Trimble)
Subject: Re: CAP aufs desktop problem
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:29:46 GMT

Magnus.Hjern@malmo.trab.se (Magnus Hjern) writes:

>We are using CAP patch 126 running on a DS5120 with Ultrix 4.3. The
>aufs fileserver for Macintosh workstations has been running for about
>8 months now, without any major problems. The only thing we've noticed
>so far is that the desktop files are not handled correctly by CAP.

>If the user would like another layout on his/hers CAP-folders than the
>standard ones, the changes are not stored by aufs. Even if the
>ADeskTop and .IDeskTop files are deleted and rebuilt it does not have
>any effect on the layour. 

 We've experienced this, also. The problem only exists in the "root"
 directory of that shared volume. All of the subdirectories will store
 the files' locations just fine. We have not figured out how to solve
 this problem and have basically concluded that it's just a bug.

--
Chris Trimble	                | Birthday party, 
B.I. Systems Services           | cheesecake, jellybeans,
chris1@uiuc.edu                 | BOOM!					- R.E.M 
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: hue@island.COM (Pond Scum)
Subject: Re: Sharing a Printer on Ethernet between Macs and Unix machines
Organization: Island Graphics Corp.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 23:45:36 GMT

ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch) writes:
>One product that promises to do this in a slick way is called "EtherWrite
>LPR" from Compatible Systems. The product was announced in July but has
>not shipped yet. I talked to the company this week and they think it will
>be ready to ship sometime in February - we'll see. EtherWrite LPR is a box
>that has two ports, one plugs into the LocalTalk port on a printer and the
>other plugs into an ethernet network. It handles both EtherTalk from Macs
>(i.e. printer shows up in Chooser) and TCP/IP (print from Unix systems
>using lpr). It will have a SRP of about $1000.

We just got a couple of Dayna Etherprint boxes for our printers which
have only Localtalk and RS-232 ports.  They were around $300 a piece.
So you can save about $700 by just using something like CAP in conjunction
with one of these boxes.  I prefer to use PAP/Ethertalk over lpr/TCP/IP
when I have a choice because PAP is bidirectional so you can get PostScript
errors back from the printer - which is important to us.

Because the printer's we have do not support Adobe's Binary Communication
Protocol (BCP) over the serial ports, they are next to useless when
connected to the serial port of a UNIX box.  We cannot send binary image
data to the printer, so the UNIX applications have to generate straight
ASCII PostScript. When serving as print spoolers for the Macs, I use
a filter which preprocesses the jobs before they go out.  It looks for
%%BeginBinary comments and converts binary image data to ASCII, and
redefines the readstring operator.  It doesn't work in all cases, and it's
just plain slow to send twice as many bytes for each sample in an
image at 38400 baud.

So if you just have one or two printers, I'd go with the Etherprint boxes
and CAP, but if you have a bunch of Localtalk and RS-232 only devices, you
might consider a Gatorbox or something like that.  I just saw an ad for
something from Dayna called a "Pathfinder" for around $700.  If that
is a Localtalk<->Ethertalk bridge for $700, that's way cheaper than a
Gatorbox.


-Jonathan		hue@island.COM
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: brent@terminus.gatech.edu (Brent Laminack)
Subject: CAP on subnetted class C address?
Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:23:00 GMT

We're about to get on the Internet at another site I work with. But I'll
only have half a class C network to work with :-( (netmask 255.255.255.128)
Will CAP/Aufs work in this environment? I seem to recall that CAP requires
a subnet and maps the last IP octet to appletalk node numbers, but can't
find any direct reference to using class C in the documentation. Can this
work?

Thanks in advance.

Brent Laminack (brent@cc.gatech.edu)

					
					-Brent Laminack (brent@cc.gatech.edu)
From: Apgar@Apple.com (Gar)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Remounting CD-ROM on AppleShare 3.0
Date: 5 Jan 93 03:52:01 GMT
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: Apple

In article <7gNLwB2w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>, jeffz@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
(JeffZ) wrote:
> 
> Greetings!
> 
> What is the procedure for changing CD-ROMs on an AppleShare 3.0 server so 
> that the new CD volume automatically mounts on the desktop?  Right now, 
> when I eject the current volume and insert a new CD, it shows up under 
> the chooser, but is "greyed out".  The only way currently to remount the 
> CD is to restart the server (not my first choice).
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!  
> 
> As an aside, Apple tells me that AppleShare 3.0.1 will fix this problem, 
> but I don't think this is true...
> 

I'm a little confused by your post. I assume your question is how to get
AppleShare to automatically Share a new CD that you insert at the server.

As far as I can tell it will only auto-share a CD if the CD has already
been shared in the server (I tried with 3.0.1).

So, with a new CD, you must insert it and then share it with
AppleShare Admin.

Apgar@Apple.com   |   Eric Apgar  alias  Gar   |   I said it, NOT Apple.
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: ken@cujo.curtin.edu.au (Ken Taylor)
Subject: Re: ethertalk and localtalk at the same time
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:08:37 GMT

Brett L Sivies (sivbl@win4.vut.EDU.AU) wrote:
: Now the problem is this.  He now has an ethernet card in his mac
: server, which he wants to have connected to the ethernet to receive
: mail and take advantage of other equipment on the network.  BUT. he
: cannot once he has changed the network software use the laser printers
: in his office area, or use the mac server from his laptop because the
: appletalk is touted through the ethernet card.
: 
: Is there ANY software that will allow both ethernet and local talk to
: be send from the same mac??  I remember an apple sales person
: mentioning something about using a macintosh as a gateway server from
: local talk to ethertalk, but I cannot remember who said it or if it
: could be done...

Yes.. There are at least two solutions..

If you're only accessing TCP/IP machines via the Ethernet, you can set MacTCP
to use the ethernet interface independent of the Appletalk connection, and
hence, talk appletalk out the LocAltalk port, and TCP/IP out the Ethernet card.

If you need to access Appletalk services through both cards, you can get hold
of Apple's Internet Router.  This allows you to have multiple active Appletalk
connections from your mac (eg: Ethernet and two Localtalk (using both serial
ports)).  The downside is that your machine would also become a router between
the two networks which could slow your machine down a lot if others on the 
Ethernet decide to print to localtalk printers via your machine :)

I wonder if there's a way of using AIR's net interface without running the
Router software - perhaps there is, I haven't ever researched this..

Ken
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