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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: So...
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:19:47 GMT
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Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:

>With all that trivia spreading around, I have one: what player has never
>attempted a three pointer in the most seasons played?  Actually, I don't
>know if he threw one up last season (I should look), but after that many
>years, I kinda doubt he would change.

	I know this one so I won't spoil it for everyone else.

	But -- here's a hint to everyone else.  He is a center.  He's
	probably not going to be playing in the league next season.
	He once played w/ the old San Diego Clippers...

	Jazzy J
	
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From: sheyn@csa.bu.edu (Igor Sheyn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Cavs get Gerald Wilkens?
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:49:43 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: sheyn@csa


In article <1992Oct9.145219.10562@pdn.paradyne.com>, vince@paradyne.com (Vince Ciletti) writes:
|> Yes, it IS true that the Cavs signed Gerald Wilkens.  The paper only said
|> that it was a "multi-year" contract, but it does have the provision for 
|> him to buy his unrestricted free agency after 1 year, ala Xavier McDaniel.
|> 
|> Good for Gerald.  As athletic as he is, he belongs in the NBA.  However, I 
|> believe the Knicks couldn't wait any longer for him to develop a consistent
|> outside jumper -- enter Rolando Blackman (and don't forget Hubert Davis -
|> I read where he really impressed Riley this summer in the rookie league).
R u referring to McDaniel's contract with Knicks ( where he did use his buyout 
option ) or his current one with C's ( I haven't heard there's such a clause
in it, but I may have missed smth)?
From: cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Suns Camp?
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:15:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser) writes:
>- Nobody is talking about Dumas so I assume he didn't report.  Call me
>  disappointed.

Dumas didn't report, because he *can't* report.  He's still under
suspension until some time in the first week of November.
Technically, the Suns can't even *negotiate* with him until them
(although you can never be sure what's going on behind closed
doors).

You've got to wonder if there's room for him on the roster.  After
all, to sign him, the Suns would have to waive somebody really
valuable like Tim Kempton!  :-)  (Gack...  $1 million/2 year
contract for Tim Kempton?!  Geez!)  It should be interesting to see
who does/doesn't make the team.  Right now, it's looking like Davis,
Nealy, and maybe Dumas are in trouble...  Too bad.  Personally, I'd
rather cut Rambis and Kempton.

>- Barkley owns this town already and is being demanded by all the
>  outsiders as well.  "SI" will here this week to photograph him for the
>  upcoming NBA preview issue (can you say "JINX"?).

A year back or so, SI performed some kind of statistical analysis to
determine whether there really is a SI Cover Jinx.  According to
their own analysis, there is no statistically significant jinx.
Make of that what you will.  (Of course, their own statement that
the jinx does not exist will probably cause the jinx to take
effect...  :-)

Tony
From: halpin@sw.stratus.com (Jim Halpin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: So...
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:10:57 GMT
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Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <Bw7Azx.1pt@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, pa56680@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (P. Ialamanna) writes:
> >	
> 
> Is it Robert Parrish, the Chief, himself? Some announcer mentioning this 
> trivial fact during some game is in my memory.

	I know it isn't Parish. He's 0-6 career-wise from three point land.
Spread out over 6 different seasons too!

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From: adam@research.nj.nec.com (Adam Porter)
Subject: Trent Tucker
Originator: adam@acapella
Reply-To: adam@research.nj.nec.com
Organization: NEC Research Institute
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 21:01:59 GMT


I think you Bulls fans are overrating Tucker.

As a serious Knicks fan, I can tell you he was a marginal player
talent-wise.  He hustled and played with heart, but he didn't have the
physical size or quickness or dead-eye shooting necessary to be a
star. 

He did play with heart, hustle, and dedication.  Scrappy on defense,
at least a step behind the fast break, and sub-45% from the field be
it 3-ptrs or 2.

Maybe he'll make a contribution, but I wouldn't expect too much.

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From: dewey@ccs.northeastern.edu (Dwight S Flewelling)
Subject: Re: Earth to Ed Lor
Organization: College of CS, Northeastern U
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:56:26 GMT


> hey Ed! where are you!  its the attack of the Celtic Phantom Buzzer-Beater
> 3-ptrs all over again!  two more recruits!  what is it now? 8-14?  :-)

>- nate

Please, I wasn't attacking that shot, I'd have probably given Larry the
3 just for making that shot, but I must admit, It wasn't a "text-book"
three by any stretch.


>+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>|       Reggie Lewis was HACKED mercilessly by Ehlo!!!!!                 |
>+------------------------------------------------------------------------+

I couldn't agree more, Reggie was hacked several times. Ehlo being the
most obvious.

Dewey
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From: rbd@flash.ece.uc.edu (Bobby Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Clippers
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:19:13 GMT
Organization: Unversity of Cincinnati, ECE Dept

In article <BvuvwF.Lxo@ora.com> ellie@ora.com (Ellie Cutler) writes:
>But who do they have in their backcourt besides Jackson and Randy Woods?

Ron Harper, for starters.

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From: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM (Andy Knipp SE Andersen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Selfish
Date: 7 Oct 92 06:14:50 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.152.10.9

In article 061092164319@lucy.cstudies.sfu.ca, lucy@sfu.ca (Lucy Chan) writes:
> rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) wrote:
> 
> > 2 players butted heads during the game. One was HIV + the other was not.
> > The HIV+ player now has full blown AIDS, the other player tested HIV+.
> > The incident occurred while being filmed and they used the video as
> > evidence in determining the source of transmission.
> 
> So the collision resulted in open wounds in both players and mixed blood?
> And they also verified that the HIV that the second player has did not come
> from another source, such as unsafe sex or a dirty needle?


There have been cases where a person infected with HIV has been in a
fight with,  and transmitted the infection to, a person not infected. 
In one case,  some individuals were "gay bashing" (beating up homosexuals),
blood was drawn, and the "basher" got infected.  Ironic huh ?





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From: halpin@sw.stratus.com (Jim Halpin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Bye Bye Fatman
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:30:43 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <Bw0tsv.Cx5@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
> 
> 	Well, again it depends on what U define as Top-10.

	Gee, how about Top-10 means : "One of the first 10 players drafted 
in a particular year." Is that specific enough for you? At any rate, that was
the meaning of the original post to which I was responding. (Gamble isn't worth
Gugs, because Gugs is a top-10 draft pick.)

> For instance,
> 	some of the players U listed above are decent bench players.

	'Some' == Joe Kliene, Jon Koncak, & Kenny Walker (while he in the league).
	The keywords being 'decent' and 'bench'. Not exactly what you would hope
to get out of one of the 1st 10 picks of a draft!

>  And,
> 	some like Stipanovich, when he was in his prime, I would have 
> 	considered trading for Gamble straight up.

	I don't remember Stipanovich being anything to write home about, but
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I blew one on the list....

>  	...I agree that just
> 	because a player is drafted in the Top-10 doesn't guarantee that
> 	he's going to be good.

	That's the only point I was trying to make...

>	-- but U really have to take a good look at
> 	the guy and see what he can contribute to your particular team.
> 	Remember, Reggie Williams seemed like a washout -- but when he
> 	latched onto Denver, he began to shine.  U really have to look at
> 	the player and see how he'll fit in.

	I left Reggie Williams off my list just for that reason. I also avoided
some marginal players (Mark Macon for example) from the last two draft years
because there may indeed be some late bloomers in there....


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From: bing@jazz.concert.net (Carter E. Bing)
Subject: Re: nba.c
Organization: Center for Communications, MCNC; RTP, NC
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:14:57 GMT


	Could someone mail me a copy of this program.

				Carter

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From: MSIMMON@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (MIKE SIMMONS)
Subject: Preseason
Organization: The University of Akron
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:14:12 GMT

Can someone out there post a schedule of preseason games?
Thanx,
Mike.
 
 
 
 
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Rosters? (KNICKS)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:16:19 GMT
Keywords: rosters update

ellie@ora.com (Ellie Cutler) writes:
>I know that Anderson is the kid from Indiana who was passed up by this year's
>NBA draft (but taken by Rochester in the CBA draft, and invited to a few NBA
>rookie camps).

>So color me ignorant, but 1) who in the world are Dozier, Jeter, and Waites-
>More CBA-ers?  and 2) where do they fit into the Knicks lineup?

	Terry Dozier is a 6'9" forward 2 years removed out of South Carolina.
	He was a 3-4 year starter there.  He also had a twin brother, Perry,
	who also went there as well. 

	Gary Waites is a 6'1" point guard 2 years removed out of Alabama.
	He was a solid PG there, and once led the SEC in assists.  He had
	a solid senior campaign, where he averaged about 11 ppg and shot
	over 50% from 3-pt range.

	I'm not sure about Jeter -- but he played in the CBA last season
	(as well as the other 2).

	As someone mentioned before, don't expect these guys to stick.  
	They were probably signed just for Pat Riley to take a look at them.

	Jazzy J
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From: Marc.A.Echeveste.1@nd.edu (Marc A. Echeveste)
Subject: Suns Camp?
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Organization: University Of Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:04:33 GMT

Does anybody have any info coming out of the Suns training camp? I don't
get to hear much about the mighty Suns out here in Indiana, so any news
would be appreciated!


Suns in 6!

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Marc Echeveste
University of Notre Dame
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From: minor@rtsg.mot.com (Kevin Minor)
Subject: Re: Is Magic greedy/selfish?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:47:03 GMT

lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James) writes:

|>Y'all can flame me if you have a mind to, but if my son decides to play
|>a contact sport when he grows up (i.e.,  a sport where physical contact
|>can cause cuts and abrasions such that blood,  not to mention perspira-
|>tion and saliva, can be exchanged), I want the players in his league to
|>be tested for AIDS and I *WON'T* want HIV positive kids playing with my
|>son.  Hear me now, I am not calling for quarantine or for denial of em-
|>ployment in non-evasive capacities.  But, I *AM* calling for reasonable
|>protection for those who must come in contact with AIDS patients. If I,
|>God forbid, were to contract AIDS, I would take it as my responsibility
|>to take every possible precaution to  not put any other person at risk.

Well saliva and perspiration really aren't a factor. As far as blood 
is concerned, it would be pretty tough to line two open wounds on two 
players and have them stay in contact enough to exchange the required
volume of blood to contract the disease. Especially since in most organized
sports these days, play is stopped when an open cut occurs.

Now with your frame of mind, you should be MORE worried about your son
playing with kids at the park or various pick up games. Not too mention
when you son decide to become "blood brothers" which his best friend(s).
In those situations, there is no ref to stop play and address wounds
properly. What will you do ?

|>PS, Question, you are sitting in the front row of an NBA game involving
|>    the Lakers,  and Magic Johnson is heading for you,  chasing a loose
|>    ball.  What do you do?

I catch him....  
....and maybe ask him for an autograph. :-)
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From: cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Clippers
Date: 10 Oct 92 00:22:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

I am stunned that a team that struggled with Benoit Benjamin for so
long, and finally got good only when they got rid of him, has now
gone and acquired Stanley Roberts and John Williams over the case of
a single off-season.  Geez!  Hey, Elgin-- wanna trade for Oliver
Miller?

Hey, if Roberts and Williams don't work out, maybe you can trade
them to the Rams for Jim Everett and some draft picks.  :-)

Tony
From: moy@acf3.NYU.EDU (Gloria J. Moy,N.DORM C3,(212)9983456,)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Is Magic greedy/selfish?
Date: 10 Oct 92 19:43:00 GMT
Organization: New York University

/* acf3:rec.sport.basketball.pro / lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James) /  1:10 pm  Oct  6, 1992 */
Y'all can flame me if you have a mind to, but if my son decides to play
a contact sport when he grows up (i.e.,  a sport where physical contact
can cause cuts and abrasions such that blood,  not to mention perspira-
tion and saliva, can be exchanged), I want the players in his league to
be tested for AIDS and I *WON'T* want HIV positive kids playing with my
son.  Hear me now, I am not calling for quarantine or for denial of em-
ployment in non-evasive capacities.  But, I *AM* calling for reasonable
protection for those who must come in contact with AIDS patients. If I,
God forbid, were to contract AIDS, I would take it as my responsibility
to take every possible precaution to  not put any other person at risk.

PS, Question, you are sitting in the front row of an NBA game involving
    the Lakers,  and Magic Johnson is heading for you,  chasing a loose
    ball.  What do you do?
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From: markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: First Round Picks?
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:56:12 GMT
Organization: Bell Northern Research Inc.

retrac@vesuvius.cs.rice.edu (John Carter) writes:
> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>>	Seeing that Laettner has signed close to $3 million a year, I think
>>	we can all expect that Mourning's f***ing agent will now hold
>>	Alonzo back this season.  I'm sure that both of them are expecting
>>	to get more $ than Laettner, and the Hornets apparently don't have
>>	more than $2 million this season to spare.  VERY unfortunate for
>>	the Hornets -- and Alonzo -- who seems like he'll be just another
>>	name on the long list of #2 pick disappointments (at least initially).
>
>I doubt very much that Laettner, or any rookie, is getting a flat salary
>that does not increase over time.  In fact, almost all of the top rookies
>get base salaries and then league-maximum 30% raises each year.  If we
>assume that Laettner is getting a 30% raise after each of his first five
>years, his $21 million contract will pay him $1.65M in the first year.  His
>salary each of the six years would then be: $1.65M, $2.15M, $2.79M, $3.63M,
>$4.71M, $6.12M.  Total value of his contract: $21 million.
>
>So, depending on how they structured it, he might be making a mere 2/3rds of
>what Alonzo wants next year.

I just read that the first year's salary is $2.1M in Laettner's contract.  
That certainly won't make Alonzo any happier with the $2.1M first-year offer
on the table from Charlotte and it sure gives him good reason to be asking
$2.3M.  I hate to see Charlotte do any more re-organizing, but how can
they justify paying Alonzo the same as Laettner.  We all know that Laettner
will be a bust in comparison to Alonzo!  ;^) * .5

Hope they don't get rid of J.R.!  I STILL like him!

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From: wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Alonzo Mourning, greedy SOB
Date: 12 Oct 1992 13:24:42 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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In article <07PRB6S3@cc.swarthmore.edu> rbrooks1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Rob Brooks) writes:
|In article <1992Oct12.131439.477@brtph560.bnr.ca>, markham@brtph600.bnr.ca
|(Andrew Markham P205) writes:
|
|> Now I am growing tired of Alonzo and his agent.  Alonzo won't take $2.1M
|> and is looking for $2.5M.  Did he forget that just last year, the No. 1 
|> pick Larry Johnson only got $1.9M (if I'm not mistaken).
|                     ^^^^
|
|That's quite a nice "only."  I wish I only got that kind of money for
|tossing a ball in a hoop.  Ok, so he was rookie of the year but still...
|
Actually, I think he made more than this.  Didn't Larry have some sort of
bonuses written into his contract so that if he won rookie of the year, he
would earn pretty spectacular money?  Or was that Kennie Anderson?

Rick
From: sheyn@csa.bu.edu (Igor Sheyn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: And again (was Re: Rodman Trade Rumor (Here we go again!))
Date: 11 Oct 92 19:01:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: bu.98286
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: sheyn@csa


The thing is that Detroit is not even rebuilding properly. Their aquivisitions
last yeat and during the off-season ( Woolridge, Walker, Polynice, Mills )
really stink. All of them are poor players, and 3 of them are in the second
half of their careers. They could keep McLean and develop him, but they opted
not to. So now they look like:
Thomas
Dumars
Laimbeer
Aguire
Woolridge
Walker    (failed attempt to substitute for V. Johnson )
Polynice ( attempt to substitute for Edwards )
Mills
Rodman(?)

Only 4 players left from championship teams. If they trade their MVP
Rodman for Tisdale, they'll have another average player. I remember Tisdale
as a decent low-post player with a good touch and fair rebounding, but
not very fast. (BTW, after 1991 Draft ESPN rumored the trade Brian Shaw
for Tisdale. I wish that would have happened instead of Shaw/Douglas trade.
The Shaw/Tisdale trade would be good for Celts, but Rodman has much more
value than Shaw, while Tisdale hasn't improved over the year)
I predict for Pistons 5-6 place in Division.
From: halpin@sw.stratus.com (Jim Halpin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: That Top Ten Draft Discussion
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:58:41 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Oct12.220508.20654@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:
> 
> No?  Well, In the top 10 you *hope* to get a franchise player, or at
> least an all-star.  That's what you *hope*.  But realistically, you
> cannot expect much more than a decent player who will give you solid
> bench play.  And the variance is quite wide.


	Gidi, I think you and I are trying to say the same thing. There is
a wide range of talent, based on past drafts, that can come out of the top-10
picks. Anywhere from a franchise player to a crash & burn dud!

	All I was trying to say was, a Gugs-for-Gamble trade isn`t an outrageous
suggestion (as somebody suggested. Just because Gugs was draft in the top-10
this year is no guarentee that he'll have any kind of success in the NBA. He
may not even develop into a "decent bench player"! Given that risk, it not 
to wild of an idea to trade a top-10 draft pick, especially one you are having
trouble signing, for an established player. Even if that established player isn't
particularly outstanding.


> 
> You make the best pick and hope to hit a decent player.  And the
> operative words are "hope" and "decent".

	Or trade that risky "potential" for a known NBA player....

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From: sheyn@csa.bu.edu (Igor Sheyn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Cavs (was Re: Cavs get Gerald Wilkins?)
Date: 11 Oct 92 18:30:33 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: sheyn@csa


There should be a Webster available on Internet which would have NBA'ers
names. I am tired of seeing "Jerald Wilkens" and a new spelling each
time for Sarunas M. ( afraid of misspelling his name myself, even though
I would put it as Marchulenis, which is closed to the way his name was pronounced
in XUSSR).