From: graham@maths.su.oz.au (Graham Matthews)
Subject: From a fellow reader
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 00:26:22 GMT

I was asked to post the following:
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I am regular reader of the discussion/debate goin on in
the group  "soc.culture.pakistan". I have some coments to 
add. But the problem is that I am not able to post my mail.
Can do me a favour to post it for me. Also in addition, how
can we post the mail. I will try to check with others. But
please post this letter. 

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The present discusion on the topic of uniqueness of Quran is
quite interesting. I have some coments for both the sides.

1) For those who speak in favor of the topic.

Religion is Faith. Your whole judgement is true on the 
assumption that Proh. Mohamad actually spoke the truth.
Also the assumption is that the fact that -- what ever
he transmitted was exactly as what he was told. Surely
the book, a earhly matter was not handed over to them.
I Hope this assumption is true, or else all of you are
doing wrong thing. In case of religion, faith is every 
thing. But to prove it is very difficult.

I will show you the falacy, which you would not like 
to accept.

To me God looks as if he/she is very short sighted.
He created this religion, without even guessing that
it is bound to be distorted and missinterpretation is
bound to occur. This is proved by the fact that he had
to send the massage more then once. The Bible, the Quran
etc. set aside "GITA and The Vedas" as you may not like
to accept them as god sent books. He didnot understand
the use to protect it. But he learnt from experience.
This time he promised to protect the book. But my quistion
is -- was god interested only in preserving the book?
(Preserving the book was farely simple as it is only few
hundered years old. Bible is two thousand years old. Do
you know that you will not find two version of GITA
available in market.) 

But again this time, it was fruitless because we did multiple
interpretation. We implemented it differently. Doesn't it
prove god as short sighted.

I understand that you will not like this argument.

Other quistion:

What is great in the fact the you have a unique codal book?
Suppose God had sent you two books, it would have been unacceptable.
In HINDISIM the four VEDAS discuss four different aspects of
life. Why do you assume that it is true that changing QURAN
according to requirement is not good? How do you dicide a new case
which is not discussed in Quran? Like Copy right concerning 
computer programs. Like some can call it stealing. But the
stolen comodity is lost to the owner. But in this case it is not.
What do you do in such case? Still you don't append to the QURAN?


2) To those who talk against the topic:

What are you trying to prove? You are trying to prove thier
faith wrong. Don't you understand that faith is not a thing 
that can be debated. There are many more burning issue that
can be solved if elite people like you discuss among yourself.

Like some time before it was being discussed that Israil  and 
India as the trouble shooter for Islamic nation. It time for
us to do a little study in this problem by trying to understand
why it is so. Let us all be nutral judges.

a) Religion is meant for peace, Then why is it resuting in blood
shed?

b) What are the things that we don't like in others, and would like
the other side to change, in which case the other party is acceptable?

c) Do you recognise any fault in your own system that you thing 
make the other party dislike you? (let us be honest. Or else this
will not lead to any where). 

d)Is there any sugestion that can make the world a better place to stay?

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I agree to the fact that in all place, women are are not treated
equal to man. Why in western countries, Is women in India 
treated equally? (graham, what do you think?) According to me, 
this can change only if women is educated and starts expressing 
their ideas. But they cannot expect a over night result. They
have to bring up their children bot boys and girls equaly, or
else it cannot be expected. Wil the mother teach the son to
cook. But surely she will tell the daughter to learn cooking.
This is a simple example, to demonstrate that women and men 
cannot be treated alike over night. I like to help my wife in
cooking. She is also working like me. But she does like the idea.

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I heard that that was ISLAM tried to prove IMAGE worshiping
as wrong is by breaking the image. Thereby demonstrating that
nothing happens. But I would say that this logic is not good
when faith is concerned. Faith does not follow logic. 

LIke all non muslim people eat Non-halal meat. Nothing happens
to them. Does it prove to you that eating non-halal food is
not wrong. This logic applies to PORK also. Remember, that
pork eaten in Japan or USA are not dirty animal and take 
controlled diet. Don't say that the results of eating non-halal
meat will come in next life. Because even in case of image 
worshiping, that logic will be applicable.

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I am student in Nagoya University, Japan.
SUPRATIC GUPTA

--
Graham Matthews                 And it's true we are immune
Pure Math, Uni.Sydney, Oz       When fact is fiction and T.V. is reality
graham@maths.su.oz.au
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