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From: hrcoord@igc.apc.org (Human Rights Coordinator)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: GA: ASSISTANCE TO PAKISTAN
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:50:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1474400007:000:2174
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hrcoord    Oct  6 08:50:00 1992


From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord>
Subject: GA: ASSISTANCE TO PAKISTAN

/* Written  3:46 pm  Oct  6, 1992 by peg:unic in cdp:unic.news */
	 Forty-seventh General Assembly GA/8360 General Committee
	 5 October 1992 2nd Meeting (AM)

	 GENERAL COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS ASSEMBLY INCLUDE ADDITIONAL
	 AGENDA ITEM

		      ON EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE TO PAKISTAN


		    Another Item Entitled 'Programme Budget For
	 Biennium 1990-1991' Also Recommended for Inclusion


	 The General Committee this morning recommended that the
	 General Assembly include an additional item, "Emergency
	 assistance to Pakistan", in its agenda for the current
	 session.  The Committee proposed that the item be
	 considered directly in plenary.

	 The request to include the item was made in a letter from
	 the Permanent Representative of Pakistan to the
	 Secretary-General (document A/47/244) in which he said
	 that during the second week of September, unprecedented
	 rainfall had occurred in the northern areas of Pakistan
	 and Azad Jammu and Kashmir. Thousands of villages were
	 inundated, and floods and landslides had swept away many
	 bridges, roads, railway tracks and the telecommunications
	 network.

	 According to the letter, a preliminary summary of the
	 major damages had indicated that 1,022 persons were dead
	 or missing; 176,117 houses were damaged or destroyed; 6
	 million people had been displaced; and 122,000 livestock
	 were lost.

	 Sher Afgan Khan (Pakistan) said his Government had
	 requested that the item be considered in plenary because
	 of the urgency of the situation in Pakistan.  The item,
	 he stated, had no financial implications for the
	 Organization.

	 Statements were also made by the representatives of
	 Kuwait, Yemen and France.  The representative of India
	 said while his Government regretted the devastation
	 caused by the flooding in Pakistan, the mention of "Azad
	 Jammu and Kashmir" in the letter to the Secretary-General
	 had been unwarranted.  The representative of the
	 Philippines said his Government would soon submit a
	 request that an additional item on "Emergency assistance
	 to the Philippines" be added to the agenda.
From: ghayalm@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Visa to India
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:36:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Cincinnati

>
>	How many Pakistanis HAve you met in your whole life. Hindus and
>Christians together are less than  a coupel of percent. Most of the people
>have not met any Hindu from Pakistan in U.S. So who the flying fuck
>you are. Why dont you put an ad in newspapers around U.S. asking
>for PAkistani Hindus. May be some of my Pakistani Hindu friends will
>respond to it. The fact that you have not met any Hindu from Pakistan
>does not mean a shit! Do not try to respond to every post on the net.
>
>Mansoor
>
If it does not mean a shit why are you getting worked up?  Does this
network belong to you, if not don't tell me what to do.  Who the
fuck am I?  I am one dude who likes to fuck people's mind on the
net, I think I have done a good job on you.  Hindus and Christians
together are less than a couple of percent in Pakistan,
that was not always so, why is it so now?  

manoj
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: mirza@vxcrna.cern.ch (MIRZA,I./EP)
Subject: Re: Asian models, a friendly disagreement and some extra :-)'s
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 07:42:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.162648.2256@vax1.mankato.msus.edu>, ARKAY@LELAND.STANFORD.EDU (ABDUR KHAN) writes...
> 
AMAAN MIRZA MIAN....I THINK YOU ARE IN THE WRONG SECTION DUDE!
THIS IS CULTURE OF PAKISTAN, WHICH IS AN ISLAMIC REPUBLIC NOT A 
NATION OF BEER DRINKING JERKS LIKE YOU!!SORRY FOR THE OFFENSIVE BEHAVIOUR
BUT YOUR NONSENSE POSTINGS ARE DRIVING ME NUTS!!!!
			<KoOL>>


	Who told you that Pakistan should be an Islamic Republic?
	Atleast that is not what Mohammad Ali Jinnah thought!
	or did.
	Does it matter to claim something what we are not and
	can never be?

Mirza Ilyas
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: rroy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Raja R Roy)
Subject: Re: Why we must not ban others from speaking ?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:49:16 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.183807.3918@sol.cs.wmich.edu> sherwani@sol.cs.wmich.edu (
Naveed Sherwani) writes:
>In article <1992Oct14.065415.3434@sol.cs.wmich.edu>, sherwani@sol.cs.wmich.edu
 (Naveed Sherwani) writes:
>>
>>      Islam is Tolerant but Pakistn is Not
>>       -----------------------------------
>>
>>     In this post, in two parts we will establish that
>> Islam's foundation is based on listening to others and have
>> the capacity of tolerance. We will also propose that Pakistan
>> falls much short of expectation of Mohd[swt].
>>
>> Part1:
>
>stuff deleted
>
>>
>> My personal opinion is that Science is better than TSBS, which
>> is better than SBS.
>>
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> -Naveed
>>
>>
>
>Throughout the above article, I used Mohd[swt], which is incorrect
>use. I should have used Mohammad[pbuh]. I stand corrected. I thank
>an anonymous SCPians for this correction.
>
>I future I plan to use Prophet of Islam (POI) to refer to
>Mohammad[pbuh].
>
>regards,
>
>-Naveed
>

   What does swt stand for?

 Raja
From: salama@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: convictions
Date: 11 Oct 92 11:03:56 AET
Organization: UCQ

In article <1992Oct6.151255.17319@cbnews.cb.att.com>, izaz@cbnews.cb.att.com (sheikh.izazul.haque) writes:
> 
> Here's a new one for netters. What do people believe are Pakistanis true 
> convictions? i.e. things one would never compromise on?
> 
> e.g. Family, Religion, Money, Human Rights, Democracy, Honesty, etc.

Compromise is not in our "dictionary", unfortunately.
From: hassan@cup.portal.com (hassan monu alam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Pakistan's capital markets
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 16:48:31 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Far Eastern Economic Review 8 Oct 1992
--------------------------------------
Pakistan's capital rivals

By Salamat Ali in Islamabad

The Islarnabad Stock Exchange, Paki-
stan's newest stockmarket, is getting off
to a slow start. Volume has been gener-
ally low since the exchange opened on
10 August. Pointing out that the two-
year-old Lahore stock market has also
been a lacklustre performer, analysts say
Pakistan's main bourse, the Karachi
Stock Exchange, might be too dominant
to allow small markets room to grow.

Indeed, the new exchange in the na-
tion's political capital may be lucky just
to be operating. Its opening was delayed
for two years after its licensing became
entangled in politics because of charges
of nepotism by the Finance Ministry. Af-
ter a change m government two years
ago and lengthy litigation, however, the
original licensees finally received the go-
ahead late last year.

The start-up of the exchange was also
delayed by differences between the Cor-
porate Law Authority, the government's
regulatory agency for businesses, and
exchange president Amanullah Khan
about provincial membership quotas. An
agreement was reached in January.

Things could be better on the tiny ex-
change. Daily volume from its 46 listed
companies and 60 members is still only
in the tens of thousands of shares. By
comparison, the Karachi Stock Exchange
had a record volume of 9 million shares
on 9 September. Karachi has 600 listed
companies and 200 members.

Despite the Islamabad exchange's
weak showing, officials believe success
is possible because of the growing
number of investors in northern Paki-
stan. They also point out that the gov-
ernment is encouraging companies to
expand to the area, especially Islamabad.

Perhaps more important for the ex-
change's growth is the fact that business-
men in northern Pakistan have long re-
sented Karachi's dominance in equities
trading. In addition, the Corporate Law
Authority is an enthusiastic supporter of
the exchange. The authority wants to
improve business ethics, and is hoping
that the computerized stocakmarket in Is-
lamabad will add sophistication to Paki-
stan's equities trade. Companies listed on
the Islamabad exchange are also listed in
Karaehi and Lahore.

Analysts add that the authority is
pushing for changes at the Karachi
exchange. Only about 80 of the ex-
change's members act as brokers, they
say, while the remainder mostly just look
after personal interests in closely held
companies.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar)
Subject: Re: Asian models, a friendly disagreement and some extra :-)'s
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:05:59 GMT

In article <Bw75ww.7KE@ucunix.san.uc.edu> ghayalm@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:


>  Do you Pakistanis like us Indians have 9 lives?

>Manoj


No, they have only two lives. One was availed of in 1971. One more
goof, and it will go poof! (Some say that the goof is already going
on in terms of Pakistan's support to the terrorists in Kashmir and 
Punjab!). It seems Pakistan's adolescent crush on Kashmir will prove
to be a case of fatal attraction.

---raj

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali)
Subject: Forwarded from soc.rights.human
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 01:48:27 GMT

The following appeared in soc.rights.human: 

>
>/* Written  5:30 pm  Sep 29, 1992 by hrcoord in cdp:ai.general */
>AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL NEWSLETTER
>September 1992
>
>PAKISTAN: Journalists detained and tortured
>
>Two journalists - Mohammad Ishaq Tunio of the English daily, The 
>Nation, and Shafi Bejoro of the Sindhi daily, Aftab - were reportedly
>detained and tortured on 28 April by police officers and armed
>officials of the Islamic Democratic Alliance-led coalition government
>in Sindh province. Before they were released the journalists were
>warned not to publish a report they had been preparing on alleged
>vote-rigging during a by-election in Sindh province.
>
>The same assailants reportedly beat up two other journalists -
>Dastagir Bhatti of the English daily, The Muslim, and Khalid Khaskheli
>of the Sindhi daily, Kawish - apparently to prevent them from 
>reporting on the vote-rigging incident.
>
>In a report published in July, AI urged the Pakistani authorities
>to institute a full and impartial investigation into these incidents
>and urged them to bring those responsible to justice without delay.
>
>[The AI report is:
>
>Pakistan: Unlawful detention and torture of journalists
>AI Index: ASA 33/07/92]
>

Nadeem

-- 
Nadeem Jamali                                     jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca
						 
School of Computer Science			  
Technical University of Nova Scotia		  (902)420-7882  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: khan@twg.com (Sharaz Khan)
Subject: Re: Presidential Debate Special - I
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:11:37 GMT

Great Article......

I got a good chuckle out of it!

Sharaaz
From: rajesh@quince (Rajesh Raman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Asian models, a friendly disagreement and some extra :-)'s
Date: 17 Oct 92 03:09:32 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: quince.wpi.edu
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

nazir@sw.stratus.com (Meer Nazir) writes:
: In article <1blc02INNr05@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, rajesh@quince (Rajesh Raman) writes:

: Sure Rajesh it may be true that some of the Muslim Kings would have persecuted
: Hindus. But Bhai ISLAM was not spread in INDIA by those Kings. I am sure 
: majority of Hindus would have hated them. ISLAM was spread by the great saints

  I'm coming to this...

: in subcontinent, like Hazrat Data Gunj Baksh, Hazrat Bahuddin Zikriya, Hazrat
: Moin ud din Chisti and many of others like them. I know in Pakistan how much
: people respect them, but was told by an indian friend that they enjoy same 
: respect from Hindus in INDIA. You can sure disagree with this point. As I have
  
  Hey! I don't disagree on this point at all. I was actually going to post this
 

: Rajesh I am sure you will understand that you can influence people by imposing
: your culture with the help of media or gun. But making someone change their 
: religion Answer is simply NO. Religous believes cannot be changed by throwing 
: flames and walking with the sword.

  On this I wouldn't agree at all. Perhaps you have heard of Guru Tegh Bahadur.
  He was a guru of the Sikhs. He was persecuted a lot by the Mughal Emperor of
  that time. A brick wall was built around him. He didn't give in like you 
  said. But he was an exceptional guy. During his time there were so many
  people who were persecuted. That is why Guru Gobind Singh started the Khalsa
  movement. It was meant for the protection of the Hindus of that time. 
  Actually the problem with this discussion (I dare call it that. It is one of
  few that haven't degenerated into a war of words) is that both of us are
  from different countries. We've been brought up on different viewpoints. But
  we should try and understand each other. I corrected you when I thought you
  were wrong. You should when I am. Coming back to the point, Alamgir Aurangzeb
  was one emperor who forcibly converted so many Hindus. You have to be like
  Guru Tegh Bahadur to be able to resist. It is very difficult. That's because
  many people are Hindus by name or Muslims by name. They don't really follow
  the tenets of their religion to the full. 
  
  Rajesh
From: imran@panix.com (Imran Anwar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: PakistaNews : save, uudecode, and view in GIF viewer
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:52:38 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

Photos are being tested right now.  Trying to come up with acceptable
quality without making files too big.

I do nort wanty files to be so big they have to split and then rejoined
by readers, one single file to save and uudecode is the idea

Getting too much graphic info make s   a lot of system have difficulty
with the file :-(

Watch this space for more info and announcements :-)

Imran
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: kmubarak@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kamal Mubarak MD)
Subject: Re: How much is an Iraqi dinar worth?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 04:43:41 GMT

In article <Bvo5Hs.5AF@ucunix.san.uc.edu> minhaszt@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Zafar T M
inhas) writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.015507.7005@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> kmubarak@magnus.ac
s.ohio-state.edu (Kamal Mubarak MD) writes:
>>
>>In article <BvEwwy.3y7@news.cso.uiuc.edu> memg2102@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu () writes
:
>>> I am curious to know how much an Iraqi dinar is worth (in dollars).  I
>>> would greately appreciate the information.
>>> Marlon Menezes
>>> memg2102@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
>>
>>
>>NEW YORK (UPI) (Oct 1,1992) -- Foreign Exchange interbank buyer rates and
>>foreign currency equivalents, provided by Bloomberg Financial Markets and oth
er
>>sources. Retail transactions provide fewer units of foreign currency
>>per dollar.
>>                      U.S.$           currency
>>                      Equivalent      per U.S.$
>>                      Thu     Wed     Tue     Wed
>>
>>[deleted]
>>
>>Iraq dinar         2.6504  2.6504  0.3773  0.3773
>>
>>
>>Kamal Mubarak.
>
>So how many mangoes can that buy?
>
>zafar

Sorry, Zafar, I have been away from the net this week.  Hence the delay in
my response.  Here is some information:

Article 4444 of acs.clari.biz.finance:
.uiuc.edu!uunet!uunet.ca!mango!clarinews
From: clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI)
Newsgroups: acs.clari.biz.finance
Subject: UPI MANGO RATES
Keywords: mango, mango, mango
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 17:20:12 EDT
ACategory: financial, fruit
Slugword: wkyields
Priority: regular
Format: week-end
ANPA: Wc: 212; Id: f1231; Sel: nf--f; Adate: 10-5-515ped
Codes: &ffgexx., &fflexx., //nf--f/, nf--f
Note: Source: Salomon Brothers Inc.

Baghdad (UPI) -- The current financial upheaval in the currency markets in
Europe has even affected the mango rates in Iraq.  The 17% devaluation of
pound and the more than 90% devaluation of the ruble has caused great
concern to the common man in the street.  Consequently the prices of
mangoes have been skyrocketing.  According to Salomon Brothers Inc., this
is due to the interdependence of the global economy.  Even the decision
of the Federal Open Market Committee not to lower the US discount rate has
added to the uncertainty.  Here are this week's wholesale prices.


Variety                         Friday  Wk Ago   Change
LangRa (per kilo) -f             2.90    2.67   up  0.23
Sindhri (per kilo) -z            3.04    2.88   up  0.16
AnwarRatole (per kilo) -c        3.18    2.97   up  0.21
Dasairi (per kilo) -z            4.47    4.13   up  0.34
LangRa (per kilo) 1-mo           6.10    5.76   up  0.34
LangRa (per kilo) 6-mo           7.53    7.34   up  0.19
Sindhri (per kilo) 1-mo          7.00    6.77   up  0.23
Sindhri (per kilo) 6-mo          8.65    8.40   up  0.25
AnwarRatole (per kilo) 1-mo      7.53    7.23   up  0.30
AnwarRatole (per kilo) 6-mo      7.72    7.54   up  0.18
Dasairi (per kilo) 1-mo          7.98    7.80   up  0.18
Dasairi (per kilo) 6-mo          7.95    7.76   up  0.19

c-Commercial; f-Financial; z-Floating.

                             ------
        Quotations are representative of all sectors and maturities
of the mango markets in Baghdad.  Top-rated mangoes are represented
by their 6-mo rates. Quality municipal AA- and A-rated mangoes and the
increasingly important government-subsidized mangoes have only marginally 
differing rates.
                             ------

But beware, Zafar.  The politically correct term is persongoes, or even
persiblinggoes. Remember there are Hindus on this net who may find your
terminology sexist!

Kamal [Thanday hooN aur meeThay hooN] Mubarak
From: rajesh@quince (Rajesh Raman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Asian models, a friendly disagreement and some extra :-)'s
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:13:06 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: quince.wpi.edu
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

imran@panix.com (Imran Anwar) writes:
: 
: Bullshit!  If Islam was being spread, especially in India, at the 
: point of a sword how come the Hindus remained a MAJORITY or for that
: matter they even stayed ALIVE or survived as a race.  Must have
: 9 lives or something.
: 
: Imran Anwar

  Imran Bhai, can you really believe that a minority can wipe out a majority.
  We're talking people in such numbers. One person could kill ten others. But
  ten million people can't go out and kill hundred million people. Is there 
  any use trying to attack others' religions? When you attack someone's rel-
  igion give some coherent points. Don't just make fun of it. That would only
  lead to a battle of tongues.

  That Hindus were persecuted in India under many Muslim kings is a fact.
  
  Rajesh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: un032053@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Looking for Naseem Ahmad Gulam Dastagir Mulla
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:20:16 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

Dear Netters,
	During a recent visit to Chicago I met Mr. Hasan Chishti who 
asked me to help in the matter of Locating a Muslim Brother named
Naseem Ahmed Gulam Dastgir Mulla,  who lost contact with his parents in 
India. Mr. Chishti gave me a copy of Chicago's local newspaper 
"Unity Times" of July/August 1992. Here is the copy of Mr. Chishti's 
letter to editor of Unity Times Chicago.

"Dear Sir,
	One of my friend's son, Mr. Naseem Ahmed Ghulam Dastagir Mulla,
came to New Jersey from Poona, India, in August 1988.
	He completed his master's degree in electronics and 
telecommunication (August 1988-1990) and master's degree in computer
science (1990-1992) from New Jersey Institute of Technology, New Jersey.
	It is more than a year that his parents have lost contact with
him. Naturally, they are very much worried about his whereabouts.
	Details about Mr. Mulla are as follows:
age 28 years, height five-foot-eleven, fair complexion, thick curly hair,
well built and heavy weight.
	In New Jersey, he was living at Apartment no. 7 with roommates
Mohammad Basit, Shaukat Aziz, Shafidur Rahman and Subramanyam Balaji,
all New Jersey Institute of Technology's students. His Ph. no. was 
(201) 399-1012.
	For some time, he worked in a grocery store in New Jersey owned
by Mr. Mohammad Kamran. His car number at New Jersey - Oldsmobile Cutlus
Supreme V8 ERL 71 N.

	It will be a favor to the aged parents if any information is 
furnished to me about Mr. Mulla. I can be reached at 
Ph. no. 312-973-5417 (Collect Call).

					Hasan Chishti"


	This message is posted to help the concerned parents and in no 
way is directed to cause any inconvenience to Mr. Mulla. Pl. contact 
Mr. Chishti at his Ph. no. Allah may reward the person who can
aged parents of Mr. Mulla.
From: khan@ces.cwru.edu (Mansoor Khan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Chand Peher Pehlay!
Date: 15 Oct 1992 23:46:49 GMT
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: easy.ces.cwru.edu


>	   royaa karenge aap bhi pehroN isi tarah
>	   aTkaa kaheeN jo aap ka dil bhi meri tarah
>   [[ pehroN = for a long time, from hindi "prahar" ]
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>   If I'm not wrong, a peher is a fixed time span of 4 or
>   6 hours duration... there are certain number of pehers in a day. That's the
>   meaning in which the word is used in Sindhi. Even the 'though-peher' in Urdu
>   seems to be consistent with this definition. I wonder what the Hindi 'prahar'
>    precisely means...

 >   Regards,
  > Rajiv [ kabhi hum bhi tum bhi the' aashna, tumheN yaad ho ke na yaad ho ]

   --
  > Nadeem

   -- 
>	You are absolutely right, of course. "peher" is a fixed period of
>time... There are 8 peher's in a day, 3 hours each.. (very equally spaced, 
>the first starting from 12:00 midnight - 3:00 am)

	I agree with your definition of Peher. i.e. 1/8th of 24 hours day.
But how come dopeher means 12 PM. seems like first peher 
is 6am to 9 am.  using backward chaining!


>	The Hindustani Classical music ragas are classified in terms of
>these various "prahars" (in Hindi) . 

>	Howevr, in this case, pehroN would mean "for long periods of time.
>
>Hope that helps.

>Regards,
>Rajiv [ maiN wohi hooN Momin-e-mubtalaa .... ]
--

Mansoor 

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