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From: WANCHO@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL ("Frank J. Wancho")
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Compression artifacts in NBC Olympic coverage
Date: 27 Jul 92 02:01:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Peter,

Well, I see I wasn't alone in noting the same "problem."  What I
thought I saw, though, was more of a strobe effect.  So far, I've seen
it only on the indoor gynastics coverage, and not on the outdoor
diving coverage, for example.  Could it be effects caused by the
frequency of the power for the indoor lighting (50Hz?) vs. 59.94Hz
NTSC?

--Frank
From: rgainey@austin.onu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Toaster and Video Scoreboard?
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:20:52 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I am interested in whether a Newtek Toaster can be used, or should be used,
as a source of information (Scores... Player Names... etc.) for a video
wall in a gymnasium. We're looking at a rear screen/monitor system that can
display camera video as well as graphics. I am not eager to see the Toaster
used.

Any suggestions??? Thanks
.
Richard Gainey
WONB Radio
Ohio Northern University
Ada, OH 45810
(419)772-2469
From: chu@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Eugene Chu)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: * What kind of VCR will do single frame recording?
Date: 29 Jul 92 07:01:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL

In article <241@maxx.UUCP> tyager@maxx.UUCP (Tom Yager) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.141045.1917@njitgw.njit.edu>, meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman) writes:
>> Howdy,
>> 	I'm looking for a VCR (preferably S-VHS for now) which will do
>> single frame recording. Perhaps in the format of:
>> 
>> Any suggestions? I'm not looking to spend $10,000 (AAAAhHHHH!)..more
>> like the $1000-$2000 price range. Thanx.
>> 
>> =============================== Mike Gaines ============================
>> ========================== meg5184@hertz.njit.edu ======================
>
>The world would be a much nicer place if you could get what you want. That
>I'm aware, the least you can spend for a single frame-capable deck is around
>$6000. The Panasonic AG-7750 (S-VHS) is my personal favorite, but Sony also
>has a new Hi8 deck that's supposed to handle what you want. Knowing what I
>know about Hi8's durability during repeated edits (which is what animation
>entails), however, I can't recommend it.
>
>(ty)
>---
Does anyone remember the SONY SLHF-1000 Beta deck?  I know, ancient history,
but it had tremendous video quality, plus a very capable editing computer
and transport.  The demo I saw with a salesman who was surprisingly adept
used two such decks, and he could program down to the frames that he wanted
to grab from one machine to the other.  I guess something like this could
be utilized in animation by snatching frames from a tape containing a long
recording of all the images you want to asemble.

Does anyone know of a currently available consumer deck with similar
capabilities?  The SLHF-1000 was about $1500 list, street prices were
about $1100, and I saw a used one go for $750 a while back.

eyc
-- 
>:<  Me:  Eugene Chu (Mr. Butterfly)        | Radar Science & Engineering  >:<
>:<  chu@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov               | Jet Propulsion Laboratory    >:<
"T'is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness"
But t'is so much easier to curse the darkness.
From: rjn@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:30:13 GMT
Subject: Re: Frox system....
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
Newsgroups: rec.video

In rec.video, houghton+@cs.cmu.edu (Ricky Houghton) writes:

>          What is net wisdom regarding the frox system?

According to a rumor on CompuServe, Frox is not making it's numbers, is
cutting back on staff, and may not survive.

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland      Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM               3404 East Harmony Road
                CompuServe:  71044,2124               Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
official or unofficial position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard
Company.  The text is provided for informational purposes only.  It is
supplied without warranty of any kind.
From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Taping CD's, videos etc...
Date: 25 Jul 92 07:52:17 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <19552@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, bsou@cs.arizona.edu (Brandon S. Ou) writes...

} In article <1992Jul24.091907.201@nutmeg.hnrc.tufts.edu> jerry@nutmeg.hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal) writes:

}} Basically, the "fair use" provision of the copyright law allows you
}} to videotape programs for your own use.  [...]  (This also applies to
}} radio broadcasts. If a local radio station broadcasts an album in its
}} entirety, you can tape it for your own use, but this limited permission
}} to copy does not allow you to start selling copies of your tape.)

Or even giving it away.

} Now I know we're getting a little out of subject (CDs), but does that
} mean we can also tape the movies we rent?  As long as we keep it to
} ourselves?

No, it doesn't. It only applies to broadcast. This is because of an old
FCC ruling to the effect that broadcasting on "the public airwaves"
constituted a limited form of "Public Domain" such that anyone could
record the broadcast for their own use, but once that recording was
made, the copyright is in force. This was back in the days of radio
broadcasting vis a vis home audio recording. In the Universal (et al.)
vs. Sony case, the courts ruled that that FCC ruling applied equally
well to television broadcasts.

Since pre-recorded videotapes are not a broadcast medium, the FCC ruling
does not apply, therefore it's not legal to copy the tapes. Cable is
a fuzzy issue. Technically, it's not a broadcast medium, but everyone
treats it as such.

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
From: pmfisher@milton.u.washington.edu (Patrick Fisher)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: My TV is possessed!
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:12:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


	My Sony TV has a personality of it's own.  I thought at first
that the remote was banged up one too many times: Press a button
to change a channel and the TV goes off or the volume goes up.  That
sort of thing.
	Then yesterday this happened: I picked up the remote and it
started sending its own signals to the tv, lots and lots of signals.

	Then, today this happened: I walked north in front of the 
TV, and once passing it, it turned on by itself.  Then I turned and
went south passing it and it turned off.  Both my wife and I repeated
this a few times to see if what it was doing wasn't just an anomoly.
Well, it keeps doing it!

	Anyone have any ideas or theories as to why this is happening?
Is it possessed?  Does it need an exorcism? :^)
	
	Pat-
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Subject: Re: Cheap source for Panasonic NV-W1 in NY,NY ?
Organization: The Crimson Permanent Assurance Company
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 12:27:50 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.005817.27738@ctr.columbia.edu> es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:
   In article <OTTO.92Jul20024152@tukki.jyu.fi> otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) writes:
	[Where to get NV-W1 (=AG-W1)]

	   I recently went shopping in NYC for several video toys
   and I ended up giving up and went mail order. The decent places
   are all discount, but the mailorder places are still a good deal
   cheaper, especially after you consider the 8.25% sales tax in NYC.

So, any good mail order places we could place the order to ?
-- 
   /* * * Otto J. Makela <otto@jyu.fi> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */
  /* Phone: +358 41 613 847, BBS: +358 41 211 562 (V.32bis/USR-HST,24h/d) */
 /* Mail: Kauppakatu 1B18/SF-40100 Jyvaskyla/Finland, ICBM: 62.14N25.44E */
/* * * Computers Rule 01001111 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Sony's cornucopia of formats (was: ED Beta  ...)
Date: 25 Jul 92 00:56:56 GMT
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL

In article <JDAVIDSO.92Jul23193343@tigger.teknowledge.com> jdavidso@teknowledge.com (Jim Davidson) writes:
>In article <22523@oasys.dt.navy.mil> goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg) writes:

>Face it, when Sony developed ED-Beta they really conceded the high-end
>consumer market to S-VHS.

>Up until that point, Beta had generally led VHS technically, coming out with
>features that were later copied by VHS.

>After ED-Beta had been out for about a year, Sony had some kind of revelation
>(as in "gee, no-one is buying our machines") and lowered the price.  I think
>the reduction was something like 30%; pretty substantial.

They didn't really lower the prices.  They just closed the machines
out.  Dumped them on the market and withdrew from the US market for
ED-beta machines.   A couple of other things helped it along.  The
worsening y/$ ratio didn't help.

>But by that time,
>even the hard-core Betaphiles had gone off & bought S-VHS or LD or anything
>else.

I think most of the hard core Betaphiles already had LD players anyway
long before ED hit the scene.

I have yet to buy an S-VHS.   I have seen a couple that looked really
good.   But paying $2000 for a unit that didn't even have a tuner that
didn't look as good as ED didn't suit me.   I have not looked at an R5.
Haven't found one to look at - but if you have ever seen ED you'll know
why the raves.

>Maybe it's true that Sony didn't want to trash the 8mm/Hi8 market, or the
>Betacam market.  Either way, they succeeded; ED-Beta is almost unheard of
>these days.

Betacam is pro, and while the ED beta is good I don't think it would
hit that market except for low budget production houses.  Maybe then we
would get rid of those crappy looking S-VHS productions that seem to
clutter up the local cable with fuzzy pictures and faded colors.
-- 
Bill Vermillion - bill.vermillion@oau.org
                - bill@bilver.uucp 
                - ..!{peora|ge-dab|tous|tarpit}!bilver!bill
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Sony Beta
Date: 25 Jul 92 01:05:08 GMT
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL

In article <1992Jul24.065523.1542@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> mfolivo@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark Newton-John) writes:

>Well, I doub't very much that Sony will ever produce another
>SL-HF1000. But remember,there is *THE* super slick SL-HF2100. It is
>so incredible, I can't describe it. (The Good Guys carry it, it can
>be seen at the Van Ness store in San Francisco, I don't recall the
>price- $1299?)

Yes - but nothing has ever come close to the editing
capabilities of the 9500s and the 1000s.


>It seems that there are still Beta users out there, they still make
>the blank tape, which is available at Good Guys, Whole Earth Access
>and Tower Video, AND a few supermarkets out there. Pro-X is still
>available (L-500 only)

Considering there are countries in the world where VHS has
about the same pentration of Beta in the US, you will be able
to buy tapes for a long time, but you just may have to look.


>Even if the ED-Beta format is 500 lines, SHB-Beta Is should give you
>a comparable picture... (That is Super Hi-Band Beta ONE)

Super Hi-Band Beta ONE is good, but it doesnt' compare to ED.
I can do both.   ED at the low speed is pretty good too, and
SHBI comes closer to that, but not that close.

>ED-Beta tapes are pricey though, about $20 for a EL-500 compared to
>about $7 for Pro-X L-500. (Guessing prices)

And the EL-500 is 2 hours long max.  So I used BCT30M.  That's
the metal BetaCam small tape.   You can get these for $23 to
$26 dollars depending on brand.  You have a choice of Sony,
Scotch, Maxell and one other.  They come in nice cases.  And
the BCT30M gets you 3 hours in ED mode.

Or, you can do like I do for off-the-air aquistion tapes.  I
buy certified used broadcast house recycled tapes.  $13.99 each
or $10 if you want 100 at a time.  I  tune in one of the cable
stations with bars at night and record each one through.

I have NOT tried - but I understand the BetaCam standard tape -
not the metal - makes a superior tape for regular Beta.  Anyone
care to verify that.


>Well, I'd sell some stock and buy a SL-HF2100 and a few cases of
>Pro-X.

Good to see you posting on the net again Mark.  Missed you!

Bill

-- 
Bill Vermillion - bill.vermillion@oau.org
                - bill@bilver.uucp 
                - ..!{peora|ge-dab|tous|tarpit}!bilver!bill
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: strauss@Aero.org (Daryll Strauss)
Subject: Video from a Mac
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:05:23 GMT

We'd like to be able to display our Mac screen on a video monitor and be
able to record the Mac screen. I think we've got the appropriate set
hardware, but we are running into problems. I'm hoping that you might
have some advice. The setup is a Mac IIfx with a SuperMac video 8*24
card. That card supports a number of monitors including NTSC underscan
and NTSC overscan. We also have an encoder/decoder/sync-generator
combination box. Finally we have an SVHS monitor.

So I figured that we needed to send the RGB output from the Mac, while
the card is on one of the NTSC settings, through the encoder to get SVHS
output into the monitor. The picture starts out looking fine, but slowly
drifts to the left. Within about 20 seconds the right edge of the image
drifts off and the picture completely scrambles. If I wait a little
longer the cycle repeats. It is almost as if I need a horizontal hold,
but our SVHS monitor doesn't include one.

Do you have any clues or suggestions? I suspect I'm missing something
obvious, but I've only got the basic knowledge of video so I can't be
sure. I can send further details to anyone if that would help. Please
respond via email.

						Thanks in advance,
							- |Daryll

-- 
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strauss@aero.org		      		     n	Mail Stop: M1-102
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From: ncc1701@madoka.its.rpi.edu (Mark O. Chadwick)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: LD Player with S-Video output
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:58:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: rpi.=c2xr2d
Reply-To: ncc1701@acm.rpi.edu

ccheng@mips.com writes:

>I am going to buy an S-VHS TV and an S-VHS VCR. I notice that some LD players
>do not have the S-video output. So would it make any difference in using 
>players with and without the S-video outputs?

Not really.  I thik there's a Bob Niland article on that somewhere.
Basically, since signals are stored on LD in composite form, the
laserdisc player's S-video output is based one the player's
Y-C separation circuitry, which TV's have anyway.  So unless your
TV has a really bad Y-C sep circuit but still has a S-video
plug (not very likely) there's no real reason to get a disc player
with S-video out...

UNLESS :-)

You have an A-V receiver like mine that keeps all S-video signals
separate from regular composite, and you want to route your
laserdisk player to your SVHS deck via S-video cable...
Then, you _do_ need an S-video output on the disc player...

-Mark

-- 
---
Mark "Emerson" Chadwick -- ncc1701@acm.rpi.edu    chadwickmo@space.laafb.af.mil
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: hammond@css.itd.umich.edu (Steve Hammond)
Subject: Pioneer LaserDisc/ 5 disc Carasouel
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:18:39 GMT


Could someone please help me out.  I am out to buy my first LaserDisc
player.  I read all of Bob Niland's articles on the subject but I am not sure
of Prices.  I have found price from mail order houses on the Pioneer models:
    cld-M50  $379   This is a discontinued item.
    cld-401  $459   This costs more, but I have no idea why it replaced the
                    old model or what is better on it.

could some people give me their opinions of thee 2 if they know or if 
the price difference will be worth it?  I have looked around my area, but 
I cannot find places that ell LD players.  I Plan and extensive search
for this evening.
Thanx
-- 
Steve Hammond                                               hammond@umich.edu
   She's gotta be buck naked on a zebra.  With a big bone in her
   nose, and a big plate lip.
From: arnewman@athena.mit.edu (Aaron R Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Help wanted:  TR-101 type cameras & New West Electronics
Summary: Looking for camcorder for trip to Europe
Keywords: TR-101, camcorders, help
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:10:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Hi, all.

I'm in the market for a Sony TR-101 camcorder (or similar in Ricoh,
Yashica, or Nikon) that will most likely get its first major use during
a trip to southern France in August.  I've got a few questions I'm
hoping someone out there can answer:

(1) Just how good is this Digital Image Stabilizer I've heard so much
about?  I would like a steady image when I'm recording while walking
around, but if it makes no big difference, I'd just as soon save a few
hundred and go with the TR-81.

(2) I had a long (30 min +) conversation with a salesman at New West
Electronics in Bellingham, WA last night.  He was quite willing to give
me a lot of information and advice on the TR-101 and similar cameras.
He offered me the following:

	Sony TR-101:	$1499 (TR-81:  $979.95)
	Ricoh R18H:	$1229.95
	Yashica KXH3:	$1299

These prices include FedEx shipping.  The gentleman I spoke to assured
me that these cameras are identical (except for the TR-81, of course), 
which I have heard before.  Are they?

(3) How's his price?  Can you do better by mail order given the fact
that the price includes 48 hr. delivery, and guaranteed US warranty?

(4) Anybody deal with New West before?  What has your experience been
with them?

(5) Should I really get a battery discharger?  Is it worth carrying the
additional weight?  (Yes, I have heard about the combination
discharger/chargers, but I haven't come across any that will run on 220V
as is necessary in Europe.

I appreciate any help/advice/war stories that you might be able to
offer.  Please respond by e-mail to arnewman@athena.mit.edu, and I will
post a summary of responses to the net if there is interest.

Thanks in advance!

--Aaron Newman
  MIT Dept. of Aeronautics and Astronautics
  SB '92, SM '93
  arnewman@athena.mit.edu

  (Boring sig, huh?)
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: juergenb@ecs.comm.mot.com (Juergen Bartels)
Subject: New sat at 2 degr east ?
Organization: eng
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 06:15:12 GMT

Yesterday I scanned the sky a bit and found a carrier at 12.5 GHz vertical.
Surprisingly, it came from 2 degrees east. Does anybody know what sat that is?
There was no modulation, later that evening it disapeared.

Jurgen


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From: srradia@srr.Eng.Sun.COM (Sanjay Radia)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Sony clones
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:02:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: srr.eng.sun.com

I was interested in by the sony clones made by Yashica, Ricoh and Nikon
for the Sony 501, 701 and 801 and the Sony TR71 and 81.

Does any one know mail order places that sell these and also model numbers of
the clones?

Some people have also mentioned the Sony TR101. Is that simply higher model in
than the TR81 or is it a different series.

I will summarize the results to the net.

Many thanks


sanjay
From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: AT&T digital output?
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:06:58 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine

In article <1992Jul21.204656.1939@physics.ucla.edu> lee@physics.ucla.edu writes:
>
>Does anyone know of an off the shelf laserdisc player that has an AT&T glass type digital output?

Not to my knowledge.  But if you really want it, some of the high end
audio stores and equipment modifiers claim to be able to modify CD
player digital outputs to the AT&T type output.  They should be able to
do the same for a LD player.

-- 
                 "So many windows, So little time"

Bill Cruce, N.E. Ohio Univ. Coll. of Medicine, Box 95, Rootstown, OH 44272
VOICE: 216-325-2511,  FAX: 216-325-0522,  INTERNET: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu
From: AVFILM2@WATDCS.UWATERLOO.CA (Mark Ritchie)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: FCC Rules for implementing HDTV
Date: 20 Jul 92 14:40:07 GMT
Organization: The Internet

On 9 April 1992 the FCC adopted a number of rules to implement HDTV
service in the USA.

Basically they have set a timetable for implementation.  Begining in
1993 a 5 year application and construction phase. 2 year deadline for
broadcasters to apply for HDTV paired channel licence and 3 year deadline
for construction of HDTV facility.  Phase II a 4 year 100% simulcasting
requirement.  Complete phase out of NTSC services 15 years after HDTV
standard set or final Table of Frequency Allocation set.  This would be
approximately 2008 give or take a year or two.

Needless to say the broadcasters are not happy with the idea of spending
the money it will cost to convert.  I expect that there will be a massive
lobbying and advertising campaign to scuttle or slow down the process.

Broadcast Engineering June 1992 has a couple of articles on the Rules
and broadcaster response at NAB.

Byte Magazine recently published a not bad article on the 4 main HDTV
proposals.


W. Mark Ritchie                    |    Tel: (519) 888-4070
Media Librarian                    |    Fax: (519) 888-6197
Audio-Visual Centre                |
University of Waterloo             | Ca*Net: avfilm2@watdcs.Uwaterloo.ca

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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: chriss@sam.amgen.com (Chris Silvester)
Subject: Re: How to mount surround speakers?
Organization: Amgen
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:29:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.020327.9891@qiclab.scn.rain.com>, drazil@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Devin Ben-Hur) writes:
> 
> Try mounting them on the ceiling angled to reflect off the wall behind the
> sofa.  Remember that Surround speakers are supposed to produce ambient
> sound so what's important is not so much that the sound comes from behind the
> listener as that the source of the sound can't be pin-pointed.  Reflecting
> the surround speakers does a nice job of this.  THX specifies dipole
> radiators to accomplish just this effect.
> -- 
> Devin Ben-Hur        [drazil@qiclab.scn.rain.com]
> "So, I rewired it!"
> 

I did something similar with my system.  I angled the surround speakers up to
reflect off the ceiling behind the sofa.  So far I've been very pleased with
the resulting effect.  As someone else in this group put it, it causes the rear
sounds to "wash" over you.

Chris S.
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Apocalypse Now Wide Screen LD
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:53:55 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute


I just got this LD, and there is a defect on it, and was wondering if
this is present on other copies. Just as the air cavalry helicopters
are taking off, there are thick black lines that go by the screen,
Also one of the frames in that area is crooked on the screen, like the
film wasen't placed on the screen correctly. any one else have this,
or should I exchange it??

-- 
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video