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From: markn@ssd.comm.mot.com (Mark Nowak)
Subject: Re: Would you Shag a 14 year old ??
Organization: Motorola LMPS
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:55:22 GMT
Keywords: n

In article <PALOU.92Jul23133645@osnome.che.wisc.edu> palou@osnome.che.wisc.edu (Ignasi Palou-Rivera) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.165024.26729@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> markn@ssd.comm.mot.com (Mark Nowak) writes:
>
>>   Before labelling having sex with a 14-year-old girl as sick, I think
>>   that values have changes a lot over the years.  Wasn't Juliet 14
>>   when she married Romeo?
>
>But, how old was Romeo?

I think he was 16.

>>  Mayan women married at the age of 16.  Also,
>
>And they had human sacrifices too, good reference.

I don't like your sarcastic way of debating.  The Nazis were considered
modern and civilized in their culture, yet they tried to wipe out a
whole race with concentration camps, gas chambers and firing squads.
I'm just saying that what society considers okay depends on their
cultural values.

>>   ever wonder why teenage girls are often so attractive?  It's just 
>>   evolution at work.  These girls are sexually mature.  They can have
>>   children and Nature makes them attractive to would-be fathers.  The
>>   problem with sex with a 14-year-old comes from society's dim view
>>   of it.  I'd say society is pretty screwed up.
>
>Your same argument could be easily used to justify sexual assault, rape, 
>and the majority of crimes (that car looked so good, it was screaming
>to me  to drive it...)

I don't think so. Although people often use these kinds of arguments
to justify crimes (e.g., look at the way she was dressed -- she wanted it),
I'm just pointing out the reason why teenage girls are attractive, and 
the reason more men don't have sex with them is due to our society's
values.  When there is mutual consent, I have trouble labeling something
a crime.  Where is the victim? 
-- 
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SWM, 25, 5'11", seeking SF ...      | grasp the laws of the whole world.  When
Chicago, Illinois                   | the laws of the whole world are grasped,
INTERNET: markn@ssd.comm.mot.com    | therein lies perfection. - I Ching
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From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Those looooong and hard love sessions (was: Re: She called, I came, she smiled, I slept)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 01:30:23 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.204551.5268@uwm.edu> markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark William Hopkins) writes:
>
>         What's the longest you've ever spent (or ever wanted to spend)
>         making love with someone?

I'm not exactly sure; maybe two or three days with breaks for sleep and
the occasional foray for food (I must admit that I wasn't watching the 
clock much at that point).  As far as individual acts go, when it's with
someone I've spent enough time with to get used to each other, generally no
more than two or three hours.
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Testosterone is Your Friend
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:15:04 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

>In article <1992Jul22.204247.7977@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul22.154022.20609@u.washington.edu> intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:
>>
>>>Angelwing - How do I get my testosterone level checked?
>
>Actually Ang, I think you need to drop off a semen sample.  I wonder if
>testosterone blood levels increase upon ingestion?  Heh.

Time for a joke...

A man and a woman got in an elevator at the same time and the man asked the
women which floor she wanted.  "Second floor", she said, "they're paying $25
a  pint at the blood bank".  The man replied, "I'm going to the fourth. They
pay $200 an ounce at the sperm bank."  A week later the man and woman both got
on the same elevator.  The man, recognizing the woman asked, "second floor?".
With her mouth closed and her cheeks puffed out she just shook her head and held
up four fingers.

-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: graydon@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Graydon)
Subject: Re: Oh No!  I'm still a Nice Guy!
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 15:30:51 EDT

i900019@redgum.ucnv.edu.au (Tim Knipe) writes:

> 
> What can this teach all the NiceGuy-lurkers out there?  The _only_ way
> to "get better" is to practice.  Anything that you find difficult,
> anything that you find embarassing (within reason of course :-) DO IT!
> Next time will be easier.  Practice on people you're not interested in,
> but don't think it will help you much when you really are interested.
> 
> --
> Tim Knipe (A NiceGuy at a turning point)
> i900019@redgum.ucnv.edu.au
> tjk@ironbark.ucnv.edu.au

There are a couple of thoughts that snuck up on me whilst reading the
long version of this - one of them is that specific-topic vocal cord
paralysis *can* be your subconcious trying to tell you something.

The other is that you seem to be treating 'rejection' as a binary
condition.  It isn't, there is a continum from 'RIGHT NOW!!' (very bad)
to sending the men folk around with shotguns (even worse.) 
Driving yourself crazy trying to guess where on this continum your answer
landed is *not* a good habit.  Flogging yourself because you 'got
rejected' is pretty stupid, too - someone can like you a *lot* without
becoming irrational about you.

Graydon

        Graydon the Curious         /graydon@micor.ocunix.on.ca
  Skraeling Althing, EAldormere, MK / "Nihil est quin obsisti possit"
From: karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Those looooong and hard love sessions
Summary: Yeah, I hear that
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:39:04 GMT
Organization: Macro Computer Solutions, Inc., Chicago, IL
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In article <1992Jul22.185909.1412@walter.bellcore.com> nobody writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.061025.2016@ncar.ucar.edu> kuehn@citadel.scd.ucar.edu (Jeff Kuehn) writes:
>>>          What's the longest you've ever spent (or ever wanted to spend)
>>>          making love with someone?
>>
>>An ex-SO and I spent a four day weekend in bed... of course there were trips
>>to the bathroom (some things just can't be ignored) and the kitchen (ever seen
>>"9 1/2 weeks"? :).

Yep....

I spent a weekend in Green Bay, Wisconsin about a year and a half back in
the Embassy Suites hotel there, and never left the room.  It was a very nice
room....

And no, I wasn't alone :-)

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From: haroome@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Allisson Roome)
Subject: Re: Those looooong and hard love sessions
Organization: Me? Nah ... now where did I refile that message?
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 18:52:21 EDT

In article <1992Jul22.213904.11973@ddsw1.mcs.com> karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.185909.1412@walter.bellcore.com> nobody writes:
>>In article <1992Jul22.061025.2016@ncar.ucar.edu> kuehn@citadel.scd.ucar.edu (Jeff Kuehn) writes:
>>>>          What's the longest you've ever spent (or ever wanted to spend)
>>>>          making love with someone?
>>>
>>>An ex-SO and I spent a four day weekend in bed... of course there were trips
>>>to the bathroom (some things just can't be ignored) and the kitchen (ever 
>>>seen "9 1/2 weeks"? :).
>
>Yep....
>

Nope, Tampopo(sp?) by the same person who did "The Funeral" and "A
Taxing Woman" - the things they do with a raw egg .. sigh.  Oh for an
adventurous man ....

Let's see I delivered the homemade chicken soup on Thursday (Good
thing I made a lot of it) wearing the black lace thingie under the
coat with stockings and heels, we got tired of my cooking on Sunday (I
kept nearly burning things with *all* the distractions), Monday was a
low energy day no acrobatics onle the more standard positons, and
Tuesday  I was one tired puppy for work ... I guess that makes it um,
5 days .... My one regret was that he was sick with a cold and didn't
have as much energy as he wanted. 

See, Walter, it's not so much a male subject.  Although, I do think it
has a lot to do with the male's repeat factor here ...  I actually
experienced a manifestation of "seven little words" - wow!!!!

Allisson
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| H.  Allisson Roome - haroome@rodan.acs.syr.edu 
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From: annan@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: MOOOOOOORE XENOPHOBIC JOKES!
Date: 29 Jul 92 07:51:03 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAXcluster

In article <bdjm04c.greg@netcom.com>, greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough) writes:
> In article <1992Jul24.125353.7791@vax.oxford.ac.uk> annan@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>>How about: how many Americans does it take to change a light bulb?
>>
> How about a game of "spot the xenophobic twit from Oxford?"
>  
> Greg

I'm not a xenophobe. I just CAN'T STAND FOREIGNERS!

-- 
James Annan.
                [--------------------------------------]
                [  "The only good Tory is a lavatory"  ]
                [--------------------------------------]

P.S. If I was xenophobic, wouldn't I have stayed in my own country rather than
go to Oxford?

P.P.S. Add :-) above if your first name happens to be Greg.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Of Canadians and arithmetic skills
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:12:27 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.151416.4639@walter.bellcore.com> nobody writes:

>...
>
>Sweepstakes open to residents of the United States and Canada, except
>employees of... In order to win a prize, residents of Canada will be 
>required to correctly answer a time-limited arithmetical skill-test question.
>
>...

Much as I hate to ruin such a wonderful putdown (or whatever it is)
(so why am I doing it?) (I don't know) (where did all these
parenthetical comments come from?), I believe it's the case that
Canadian law prohibits (non-government) sweepstakes, but allows
contests of "skill".  So...

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
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In soc.singles, johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <70188@apple.Apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>>nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>>
>>>It was nice having a person wait on us
>>>who not only had but USED his personality.
>>
>>*shrug* To each her own. I want them to shut up and bring me my food, and I
>>don't care what their name is either.

I think its nice when a waiter/waitress is friendly and does more than just
brings the food.  It seems to add a more personal touch to the service.  

One particular waitress that stands out in my mind was one that a group of
us had while eating breakfast at a Le Peeps in Denver last February.  This
particular waitress was very friendly and talkative, but the thing that I
remember most was her subtle way of flirting with me whenever she came
around to our table and the warm good day greetings that the two of us
exchanged as I was leaving.  

>>So who here has been a waiter/waitress?
> 
>I have. Long time ago.  I've always thought that everyone should have to 
>be a waiter/waitress at some time in their life.  You have to learn to deal
>with different personalities.  If you are waiting on someone that is a real
>asshole you still have to try to make them happy.  I also gives one a little
>more tolerance when going out to dinner at a busy restaurant.

I've never been a waiter, but I did something in a similar category at my
college job of working on the flight line at a local airport.  This was a
job where you also had to deal with people of different personalities, as
well as people with different situations where some had lots of time to
chat while others were in a hurry and didn't have much time to talk.  

>>Do you like chatting up customers, or do you do it in order to get a tip,
>> or do you not do it at all?
>
>I used to enjoy it.  I didn't do it *specifically* for a better tip.  It made
>my job more pleasant and hopefully their experience better as well. 

I would agree with John's comments here.  

>> Do you find it a good way to meet people?
> 
>Depends on the restaurant.  Fortunately the one that I worked in was a "fun"
>place and had a night club next to it (Mountain Charlies in Los Gatos for ba
>readers).  If the customer seemed interested I'd recommend a good band that
>was playing in the adjoining club and tell them I'd be over after my shift and
>many times they'd still be there.  It was actually kind of a fun job.

I know someone who is now married to a guy that she first met while working
at the checkout counter of a grocery store.  

Bill
wjb@hpisla.lvld.hp.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams)
Subject: Re: Would you Shag a 14 year old ??
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:48:40 GMT

In <MARTINC.92Jul25123104@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

>In article <1992Jul25.154754.24701@news.acns.nwu.edu> drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:

>   Well I'm around undergraduate and even graduate age guys all day and not
>   one of them sets me to wondering what it would be like....... They all look
>   so, so young. 

>Frightening, isn't it -- I remember that first year of medical school I
>sat through.  Those kids are all *doctors* now.

>They aren't *old* enough to be doctors.

	More to the point, remember when you've seen them falling out of 
a pub/bar absolutely wasted and thought to yourself..."Oh God, this is
the future generation of the medical profession....one day my life may be 
in their hands". (*SHUDDER*) Scary thought isn't it!
				Emma.

    ____________________________________________________________________
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    |   ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie    | I'm ringing you..--Calvin & Hobbes  |
    |				 | (eller Steen og Stoffer :-> )       |
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From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Used threads
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 02:17:37 GMT
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <711665909snx@walter.UUCP> fred@walter.UUCP (Fred Walter) writes:

>Why argue ?

A necessary evil, I guess.  If you get cranked about something someone
has done, sometimes you need to let them know just what you feel like :-)

>Do you have to raise your voice and get emotional to get the other person
>to take you seriously ?

Oh, no - I'm likely best when I coolly tear off strips.  But that's
when I'm not expecting a solution; if I'm hoping to work out a
compromise, I try to subdue the histrionics.

>Does it serve a constructive purpose ? (Can it ?)

Well, venting is okay and yelling is okay, but only if that relationship
allows it (see below).

>Can you keep yourself from verbally attacking the other person's
>intelligence/character/etc. when you are arguing with them ?

This is critical, I think.  The secret of a good friendship or a good
relationship is to negotiate good "rules" about fighting.  If you can
fight fair, without slandering the other person's ancestry and such,
you can resolve the yough things that need to get resolved.  I'm not
a natural yeller, but I'm good at keeping to the issues that are
bothering me and not getting off into personal attacks.  I also notice
that each relationship is different; one friend might go away forever
if I were to yell at them, and one might think nothing of it the next
day.  It's part of the "deal" underneath each relationship.  Some
people hate meta-commentary about their relationships, but this can
be a good thing to talk about in any relationship you really want to
keep.

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
Heaven knows / No frontiers
And I've seen heaven in your eyes			- Jimmy McCarthy
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles
From: bob@netcom.com (Robert Becker)
Subject: Re: Looking for Cathleen Greenberg
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 00:25:15 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Jul21.190541.5019@island.COM> don@island.COM (Don Hermes) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.010426.10315@nmsu.edu> honest@acca.nmsu.edu (Shower with a Friend) writes:
>>
>>I am looking for Cathleen Greenberg, she was in Stanford University

Why?  It took us months and months to get rid of her.


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From: barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry)
Subject: Soc.singles as theater ( was Re: I Had Crabs With Steve)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 01:42:23 GMT
Organization: QQQCLC
Distribution: na

In article <1992Jul24.070757.2809@dg-rtp.dg.com> morton@rtpnet06.rtp.dg.com (John R. Morton) writes:
>I often notice that posts are obviously intended for one person, or
>a small group, sometimes with a " you had to be there", to understand
>type of content... And I am at a loss to imagine why the poster thought
>the entire USA wanted or needed to read it ?
>
>I email out of vogue, or do some consider their flirtings of National
>importance.... or maybe something else I overlooked ??
>
>hopeleslly without a clue,

	Well, I think I can help you out. Remember the primary
purpose of soc.singles: entertainment. As an entertainment medium
it develops celebrities, and they, like soap opera stars, act out
the dreams and fears of their loyal followers. Just as one can
be entertained by people-watching on a beach or the street or at
a party, you can people-watch on the net. And, as with the soaps,
the you-had-to-be-there feeling subsides after you've followed along
for a while, because you _were_ there. 

	If the group gets much bigger, someone oughta put out
a "Soc.singles Digest", like the Soap Opera Digest, so people
will have a way of catching up when real life intrudes on their
net reading :-).

-  From the Crow's Nest  -                Kenn Barry
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From: luzenko@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com (Bill Luzenko)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: the hoplessly insane
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:17:33 GMT
Organization: Concurrent - Oceanport NJ

Since the care of the the hoplessly insane is so lacking in New Jersey. Is
it better for them to be painlessly euthanized! Or can their hopless lives
count for something besides making work for the gen. lazy care givers?
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: regan1046@bestsd.sdsu.edu (MARCEL SCHWANTS)
Subject: Re: NOT Pickup Lines, ferchrissake, but being InTeReSting, maybe
Summary: don't call me Howard.  
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Keywords: lime Jello, cops, snakes, hematomas, diseases
Organization: San Diego State University - Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 23:03:00 GMT

In article <13728@auspex-gw.auspex.com>, johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)             writes...
>In article <thurlow.711944642@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
>|In <1992Jul23.034702.15825@osf.org> oaf@serverx.osf.org (Oded Feingold) writes:
>|
>|>Does anyone know if Kenn Barry survived the last earthquack?
>|
>|I'd bet he's still ducking ...
> 
>I don't think Kenn was anywhere near the last earthquack.  I down know 
>waddle he wiot get into it. Being in L.A., I've had more than my share of
  earthquacks. It's feather-raising.

  Marcel, 
  the Boy Wonder.

> 
>-- 
>+============================================================================++
>| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
>| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
>+============================================================================++
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: Would you Shag a 14 year old ??
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 09:33:04 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: na


Yes, amazing, isn't it, how Society condemns Viewing 14 Year Old Girls In
A Sexual Light, but plays up the America's Sweetheart crap like its going
to go away or something.

Gee, Kim Zmeskal is all of what, 14, 15? Jennifer Capriati is a ripe old
16. And how old was Mary Lou when she 'stole our hearts'?

Seems to me like there's a bit o' hipocracy going on.

I'm sorry if I seem harsh on this subject, but I am really getting tired of
people automatically judging a person as 'unworthy' or 'unintelligent' based
merely on their age.

r.
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From: silent1@netcom.com (Tapani J Otala)
Subject: Re: Soc.singles.deity.funny
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 06:21:40 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <74cgoB1w164w@wildrose> rkf@wildrose.infoserv.com (Ray Fink) writes:
>Speaking of velcro and soc.singles....the previous owners of my 
>townhouse left strips of velcro glued to the *ceiling* in the master
>bedroom, located over the bed.  Frankly, I'm puzzled, and didn't have
>the presence of mind to ask the realtor to explain that feature.
>Anyone have any good theories on why it's up *there* ?

Detachable mirror (while inlaws are visiting ;). I'm sure more
'involved' uses could be imaginable as well. Personally I wouldn't
trust too much weight on Velcro, though... no matter how much
of a "industry strength" it may be >;->


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From: browns@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Stuart Brown)
Subject: Re: She called, I came, she smiled, I slept
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:35:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.133435.15805@cs.tcd.ie> droe@cs.tcd.ie (David Roe) writes:
>>>	Oh, be still my beating heart.......
>>>
>>>	May I please nominate this as the ultimate motto of all male
>>>subscribers to soc.singles??? Does anyone second the motion? :>
>>>
>>>				Emma. :>
>>>
>>Ah Emma dear, why increase the perception that all women are selfish
>>bitches?
>>
>>Personally I love the feel and sound of my lover coming........
>
>	And this sound is???
>
>	In my experience, nothing divides people into two camps like the
>silent v. noisy orgasm division. It can lead to extreme problems or
>satisfaction. My preference is for the noisy, but I tend to remain
>totally silent myself. I suppose this reveals something deep and
>meaninful but dont really care.
>
>	Dave "Was that the cat?" Roe

My sweetie has intiated me into the joys of screaming orgasms.  I can 
occasionally manage a bit of a loud groan myself to match hers.
-- 
Stuart M. Brown                               Postdocs rush in where wise men
U. of Manitoba, Dept. Plant Science, Canada       Fear to tread. 
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