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From: regina@tivoli.UUCP (Regina Foiles)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: Romantic places to eat in Austin
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:41:29 GMT
Reply-To: regina@tivoli.UUCP (Regina Foiles)
Distribution: austin
Organization: Tivoli Systems Inc., Austin, TX

>We're looking for some suggestions for romantic places to eat in
>Austin.  We have been to Green Pastures, Jeffrey's, and the Paggi
>House.  We would like to try others.  Please send or post
>recommendations, and a brief description if possible.  Thanks!
> 
>-- 
>Steve Poole  
>Center For Space Research
>University of Texas at Austin
>aoab305@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu  or  poole@kate.ae.utexas.edu

The Emerald. It's Irish cuisine and it's very good. If you have an
appitizer, entree, dessert and coffee plan on spending 2-3 hours
eating. The atmosphere is wonderful and relaxing. There is no rush
for anything there. If someone were going to "pop the question" to
his girlfriend after dinner, this would be the place. It's family 
run. The mother greets you at the door, the daughters and 1 son
wait on you, one son is the chef and the father does all the baking.

Warning: It's expensive. The menu the women get do not have prices
listed so I'm not sure how expensive it is, but I can imagine. You
can find a coupon in the Passbook.

Regina Foiles
regina@tivoli.com
From: jamesm@lunch.austin.ibm.com (James Miller)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: out o' state plates
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:06:18 GMT
Reply-To: jamesm@lunch.austin.ibm.com
Distribution: austin
Organization: IBM AWD; Austin, Texas


Can anyone concur with my casual observation that the most commonly seen out
of state license plate here in Austin is from Florida?

When I moved here in the mid Seventies, the most common non-Texas plates were
from Colorado and California, with a few from New York.  (Maybe this was a
reflection of a kind of countercultural, Austin-San Francisco axis.)  In the
early Eighties it shifted to a more northern/midwestern mix: New Jersey and
Michigan plates.  (I guess the real decay of American manufacturing, more
heavily concentrated in the north, preceded the real estate crash here by
enough time to bring job seekers.)

But why Florida now?  It's been big on real estate for decades -- could their
crash have been worse than ours?  When I was renting a truck from Austin to
DFW in 1986, the guy told me that it was pretty cheap to rent a truck from
Texas to Florida but expensive the other way around.  Maybe we're getting back
some people we *lost* in the late Eighties?
--

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From: dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com (Dewey Coffman)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: PUC: Caller ID illegal
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:27:57 GMT
Reply-To: dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com
Distribution: austin
Organization: IBM, Austin, TX. US of A.

In article <1992Nov11.203442.6168@icus.ICUS.COM>, lenny@icus.ICUS.COM (Lenny Tropiano) writes:
|> [Reprinted from Wednesday, November 11th newspaper: Austin American Statesman]
|> PUC: Caller ID illegal
|> Residential use would violate wiretap laws
|> 
|>   Caller ID, a technology that can display the name and number of telephone
|> callers, is illegal for residential use in Texas, the Public Utility Commission
|> ruled Tuesday.
....
|>   Suzanne Donovan, former executive director of the American Civil Liberties
|> Union of Texas, applauded the ruling as an important step toward protecting
|> privacy rights of Texans.

	I do not agree with Suzanne Donovan. I think the privacy issue is 
	important but ignores what citizens currently have to fight back
	with when receiving harrassing phone calls.

	Call Return & Call Trace.

	Call Return merely calls the person who made the call, it lets them
	know you're on to them, but does little else. 
	Call Trace will make note of the call and if there are TWO abuses from	
	the same number, the police can request of copy of the records to
	prosecute the offender. 

	I look at Caller ID as yet another way to Call Screen(tm) ;-) instead 
	of letting the answering machine pick it up. I had a problem a few 
	months ago where at random times, a "modem"(not a fax, I know the 
	difference in the tones) was calling my house. The random times were
	usually in the early am or during a good tv show ;-). Call Return said 
	the call was made outside the local calling area. I called the police 
	and the phone company to "start the ball rolling" on catching the person
	doing it. They said that if Call Return couldn't get to it or it was
	long distance, they couldn't trace it. They said the movies over does
	what a trace can do and the police/FBI aren't about to contradict it.

	I didn't believe him either. But the calls stopped, so I dropped it.

	-dewey
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Consulting @ IBM			dewey@ctci.com
11400 Burnet Rd				All opinions are mine.
Austin, TX 78758-3493, USA		(512) 823-6463
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From: ron@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Ron Boerger)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Austin Symphonic Band in Concert - Sunday, November 22, 1992;  4:00pm
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:59:37 GMT
Reply-To: ron@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Ron Boerger)
Distribution: tx
Organization: Tandem Computers; Austin TX
Originator: ron@plight

Please join the Austin Symphonic Band for its annual Blue Santa benefit 
concert, to be held 4pm Sunday, Nov 22 at the Bates Recital Hall, UT Performing
Arts Complex.  Admission is free, but please bring a new toy to be distributed 
through the Austin Police Department's Blue Santa program.

This concert will include traditional concert band and Christmas
music (listed below), and will feature KXAN-TV's Cathy Conley, narrating
"The Night Before Christmas".  Also appearing will be the Austin Horn
Club with C. Richard Morris, Organist.

Concert selections will include:

     Chester - Overture for Band            William Schuman
     Colonial Song                          Percy Grainger
     Children's March                       Percy Grainger
     Folk Song Suite for Military Band      R. Vaughan Williams

     Suite for Horns and Organ              C. Richard Morris
     Russian Christmas Music                Alfred Reed
     Salvation is Created                   Tschesnokoff
     Variations on a Shaker Melody          Aaron Copland
     The Night Before Christmas             John Moss/Clement C. Moore
     Sleigh Ride                            Leroy Anderson

Feel free to reply to this message if you have any questions.
-- 
Ron Boerger              Unix System Admin, Tandem Computers, Austin Texas USA
+1 (512) 244-8414        ron@mpd.tandem.com  -or-  cs.utexas.edu!halley!ron
Hornist Ordinare         Next ASB concert:  Nov 22, Bates Concert Hall, 4PM
From: cmc@cs.utexas.edu (Chi Ming Cheung)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Needed : Laser Disks Rental information
Date: 21 Nov 1992 03:25:23 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: paducah.cs.utexas.edu


The only place I know that rents LD's is Video Central at Braker.  Can someone
provide the names of other LD renters?

Thanks in advance.

--M.
From: jfh@rpp386.lonestar.org (John F. Haugh II)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: PUC: Caller ID illegal
Date: 18 Nov 92 04:02:22 GMT
Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II)
Distribution: austin
Organization: Los Tejanos SCUBA Club and Beer Joint, Austin, Tejas

In article <1992Nov16.202757.19402@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com writes:
>	Call Return merely calls the person who made the call, it lets them
>	know you're on to them, but does little else. 

I subscribed to Call Return and discontinued it after 2 or 3 months
because it didn't.  The most common message wasn't "Hello", it was
"You have attempted to use Call Return on a number that is outside
of your calling area".  Which usually meant outside of my switch ...

>	"I do hope that you rot in Hell"   -The Christian JFH II

"My mother told me, if you don't want to be quoted out of context, don't
say anything."
		-- Dewey Coffman

Good to see that you are still practicing selective quoting out of
context ...
-- 
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Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151           [ DoF #17 ]        @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org
Newsgroups: austin.general
From: bladex@wixer.cactus.org (David Smith)
Subject: Re: -Temporary Agencies...
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Distribution: austin
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 02:17:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.020114.13550@wixer.cactus.org> plusrich@wixer.cactus.org
(+Rich) writes:
>Anyone have recommendations or warnings about specific temporary
>agnecies in Austin?  I may need this info very soon and the number in
>the phone book is overwhelming...
>
>Thanks...
>
>rich
>--
>Richard Everett -- plusrich@wixer.cactus.org -- Austin, TX
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>The shortest distance between two points is a great circle.


Sure do......my recommendation is Personnel Pool, who is listed in the phone
book.  When I was going through the interview phase, they admitted to being
"swamped" with work, and backed that up with extensive phone calls.  (i.e.
they called 4 or 5 different times...after I started working for other people,
 of course).

Put them on your short list of agencies.  You should be listed with 3 - 5
agencies to start, or as many as it takes to get a job.  Knowing you, +rich...
.........

-- 
  bladex@wixer.cactus.org           |              Cyberlicious Software
 "I think cyberpunk is the latest attempt by American hipsters to escape
the squalid intellectual environment that surrounds them.  This is not a
bad goal."  Karl Myers, Talking Raven
From: wyf307@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Freeman Yu-Feng Wei)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Song Recital...
Date: 23 Nov 92 07:35:18 GMT
Reply-To: wyf307@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Freeman Yu-Feng Wei)
Distribution: austin
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: wyf307@mickey.cc.utexas.edu

*******************************************************************************

                     You are cordially invited to
                            A Song Recital
                                 by
                         Su Sun Wong, Soprano
                       Darryl Hobson-Byrd, Piano
                        Victoria Beatty, Flute
                                 on
                     Monday, November 30, 1992, 8pm
                                 at
                    Jessen Auditorium, U.T. at Austin
               (located on 21st Street, opposite Dobie Mall)
 
               ADMISSION FREE -- EVERYONE IS WELCOME :) :) :)
 
              //ps> Songs sung in French, German, Chinese, Russian
                    Italian, and English.

*******************************************************************************

Newsgroups: austin.general
From: plusrich@wixer.cactus.org (+Rich)
Subject: -Temporary Agencies...
Organization: Center for Weird Studies
Distribution: austin
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 02:01:14 GMT

Anyone have recommendations or warnings about specific temporary
agnecies in Austin?  I may need this info very soon and the number in
the phone book is overwhelming...

Thanks...

rich
-- 
Richard Everett -- plusrich@wixer.cactus.org -- Austin, TX
-----------------------------------------------------------
The shortest distance between two points is a great circle.
Xref: sparky austin.general:3443 austin.music:26
From: riley@turtle.fisher.com
Newsgroups: austin.general,austin.music
Subject: Austin Symphonic Band Blue Santa kick-off
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:12:50 CDT
Organization: Fisher Controls International, Austin, TX



------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                          The Austin Symphonic Band
                                      
                                  In Concert

                          Sunday, November 22, 1992
                Bates Recital Hall, UT Performing Arts complex
                                     4pm
                         Hosted by Senior Sgt. Sam Cox, APD

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------------------



             The Austin Symphonic Band is helping to kick off the
                 Austin Police Department's BLUE SANTA program
                              again this year!

The ASB will be giving a FREE concert of a mixture of concert band pieces and 
traditional Christmas music on November 22, 1992 at 4pm, in Bates Recital Hall
(UT Performing Arts Complex).

The APD's Blue Santa program has been collecting and distributing toys to
underprivileged children in the Austin area since 1973.  Admission to the
concert is free but donations of new toys would be appreciated.


Ken
--
Ken Riley                                       Fisher Controls International
1812 Center Creek Dr.            		riley@fisher.com
Austin, TX  78753                           	(512) 834-7141
From: guppy@wixer.cactus.org (Jennifer Mery)
Subject: Re: Nintendo Game vs. 386sx Computer
Keywords: Nintendo, Games, Computer
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 22:00:30 GMT

Super nintendo? $140? Wow, i guess that's the one that comes with extra
stuff. I wouldn't bother with any system that had a gun with it, there
aren't that many gun games that justify the extra cost (and having
another piece of junk to store away).

I think the kids would enjoy a regular nintendo just fine, and that
should lower your cost considerably. I'm pretty sure you can get used
nintendos at the pawn shops for $50 or less. At Best Buy, you can get a
Super Nintendo for $89.96, but you have to pay an extra $12.96 for the
2nd controller, and it doesn't come with a cartridge. Cartriges for the
regular nintendo are on sale at Target this week for 15% off; they say
reg 19.99-59.99, sale 16.99 - 50.99

Oh, and don't forget how ever long you were going to have your computer
tied up by the kids, just expect them to tie up you TV for just as long
(unless you have a special video game TV). I don't think you'll find
enough cool games for the PC for your kids. PC games are usually pretty
highbrow, like flight simulators or Sim City type games. I have a
nintendo, atari 7800, amiga 1000, and a 386, and I play way more games
on the amiga and nintendo than anything else. The only games I play on
the 386 are Railroad Tycoon (you build your own rail system) and Mah
Jong (sp) and other card games.

I think nintendo has a lot more kid level games, and a lot more aracade
games. My favorites are KLAX and Toobin', but the Mario games are pretty
fun too. I think your 386 will last longer if you let the kids have a
nintendo. There are more small kid level games on the regular Nintendo
than the Super NES, a lot more games at any level actually.

ja"If I said anything too strange, I have a cold"m


-- 
==============================================================================
Jennifer Mery |
Austin, Texas | guppy@wixer.cactus.org
==============================================================================
From: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com (Craig Becker)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: accepting risk (was speed traps on 2222)
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:14:32 GMT
Reply-To: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com
Distribution: austin
Organization: IBM Object Technology Products
Originator: jlpicard@woofer.austin.ibm.com


kneff@teton.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Ken Neff) writes:
> In article <1992Nov9.171308.22740@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, jlpicard@austin.ibm.com (Craig Becker) writes:
> 
> |> On the contrary, motorcyclists are a major asset to the medical 
> |> industry. Motorcyclists are a major supply of spare organs and
> |> tissue for various&sundry transplant operations.
> 
> Do you have any facts to support this statement, or is this just
> your (nonsensical) belief?
> 
> |> In fact, police
> |> in the Chicago, IL area refer to motorcycles as "donorcycles" 
> |> for just this reason (ref: _What Cops Know_ and _Pure Cop_ by
> |> Connie Fletcher).          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^     ^^^^^^^^^^
>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
> Ignorant people often say stupid things.  I doubt that Chicago motorcycle
> cops refer to motorcyclists in the same manner.

I gave references in my original post. Since I don't plan on bringing the 
books over to your place and reading the relevant passages out loud to you,
feel free to believe whatever you want; It's a free country. And besides,
someday you might (unwittingly) save my life....

:-)

Craig

Not the opinion of my employer.
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From: brucel@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Bruce A. Loyer-Highend Comm)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: PUC: Caller ID illegal
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:52:14 GMT
Reply-To: brucel@oakhill.sps.mot.com
Distribution: austin
Organization: Motorola Semiconductor Products Sector


> From uunet!devnull.mpd.tandem.com!garyb Fri Nov 13 13:16:59 1992
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 12:20:38 CST
> From: uunet!devnull.mpd.tandem.com!garyb (Gary Bjerke)
> To: brucel@oakhill
> Subject: Re: PUC: Caller ID illegal
> Newsgroups: austin.general
> Organization: /etc/organization
> Content-Length: 646
> 
> Could you enlighten me about the nature of the invasion of privacy? I didn't 
> follow this issue too closely when it was being debated, but I recall that
> some of the early arguments concerned the chilling effect it would have on 
> callers to suicide prevention and other hotlines, who might wish to remain 
> anonymous. I thought the reply was that the subscriber originating the call
> can choose not to make the caller id information available. I also recall 
> some mention of businesses using this data to compile audience-targeted 
> mailing lists - again, the response being that the originating subscriber can
> choose not to provide the information.
> 


Currently, you can control who makes calls to your number.  Only those people
whom you give your number to can call you.  I agree that the computerized 
calling machines violate this but in general all calls to your number 
started with you giving out your number.

With caller id, you do not control giving out the number.  You are able to
stop giving out the number on a call by call basis if you dial several extra
numbers.  Everyone using a phone is trying to maximize their time or else they
would talk in person.  Therefore, the default will be that you give out your
number.  Businesses will then compile lists of phone numbers and sell this 
information.  Other businesses (or the original business) will then call you
to sell you more stuff (or ask for contributions, etc.)  You have lost control
over your phone.  Your privacy has been invaded.

I believe that the making of these phone list is the major reason behind 
caller id.  Because of the invasion of privacy, I am against caller id.
I am willing to compromise if Southwestern Bell will block calls on a per
line basis.  This means that you would have to tell Southwestern Bell once to
block your line and then not worry about it.  This is the same thing that is
done with 1-900 numbers.  You can now block all 1-900 calls.

I do not know why Southwestern Bell is against this compromise.  

Bruce A. Loyer
From: chrisb@natinst.com (Chris Bartz)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: PUC: Caller ID illegal
Date: 20 Nov 1992 16:23:56 -0600
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
Distribution: austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: eagle.natinst.com

In article <1992Nov20.150949.2287@pencom.com> robin@pencom.com writes:
>The simple solution to this problem is make CallerID a residential service ONLY.
>Don't let businesses use it.  In fact, you could make "business use of caller ID  
>information a crime..."

Do you honestly think this would work?  There are companies out there
that sell information about people.  Marketing companies want
information like which businesses you call, when you call, etc.
Caller ID gives them a means to get this information.

If you actually managed to get a law passed to make business use
illegal the phone company would just drop the whole thing.


>> I am willing to compromise if Southwestern Bell will block calls on a per
>> line basis.  This means that you would have to tell Southwestern Bell once to
>> block your line and then not worry about it.
>
>Because it defeats the whole purpose of caller ID in the first place? 
>

Not if they also offer a service to reject blocked calls.  Your phone
simply won't ring when someone has caller ID blocked tries to call you.
They get a message saying you don't take annonymous calls.  They can
then decide how bad they want to talk to you.  If they want they can
unblock caller ID and call again.

What is your objection to this system.  You get caller ID and don't
receive any calls from people who block it.  I get to block caller
ID unless I want to talk to someone like you.
-- 
-chris bartz (chrisb@natinst.com)
From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: flaming the motorcycles flaming the automobiles flaming the...
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:01:57 GMT
Distribution: austin
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <83979@ut-emx.uucp> slug@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Wowbagger The Infinitely Prolonged) writes:
>with good brakes, tires, etc.  How many car owners care?  All of them?

	I take pains to keep at least three of my tires completely bald. I
always use that cute little spare on one of the front wheels.  I like to take
a plastic straw and blow air into my hydrualic lines so that the brakes are
nice and mushy.  I'm careful to soak the pads in WD-40 to help them last
longer.  My favorite thing to do besides posting 
we're-better-than-those-other-people flames to Usenet is to wait for a nice
day when I know there'll be lots of bikers out, and then go drive real fast
up and down RR 2222 with my eyes closed and a 2x4 sticking out the back
window.

									the wharf rat