HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Mail interception
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:28:49 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:
: 
: Another suggestion:  If anybody out there is going to try something like
: this, put a fake return address on it.  No, I didn't think you'd be stupid
: enough to put your REAL one, but letters with *no* return address may arouse
: suspicion.
: 

NO!  Put a real return address on it but not your own.  I know someone
who was caught by a screening for non-existant return addresses. Fairly
easy during the normal sorting and widely done.

Bob

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Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
From: Lawrence.London@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Lawrence London)
Subject: Re: Rock dust (was Perelandra, was Whole Earth)
Keywords: gardening Findhorn Perelandra
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 16:00:59 GMT

In article <BtFu3x.77D.1@cs.cmu.edu> dwp+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug Philips) writes:
>from one area to support another area, is the underlying philosophy that
>bothers me, not whether the resource is oil based fertilizer or rock powder.
We're talking about growing food/fiber/herb-medicinal/culinary crops for
home use and/or market. Locally-available rock dusts (keyword = _dust_ =
naturally degradable into plant-available nutrients) are always beneficial
even though they may be low in mineral content; some have other desirable
properties such as promoting drainage, increasing soil water retention,
ability to add tilth to clay soils. _Any_ rock powders are beneficial in
farm soil. Rendering rock into dust is the problem; quarries are good at this,
all the better if they're local to you.
Growing food crops that are well-adapted to local conditions are an
excellent idea; discovering them is a challenge, esp. the local wild ones.
Growing established open-pollinated varieties of fruits and vegetables that
are _really well-adapted_ to the various micro-climates that exist in any area
is someting to work for. Those crops could be marketed between those
microclimates as well as out of the area when necessary.

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From: hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts)
Subject: Rock dust (was Perelandra, was Whole Earth)
Keywords: gardening Findhorn Perelandra
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 03:18:41 GMT

In <1992Aug16.042950.12200@samba.oit.unc.edu> Lawrence.London@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Lawrence London) writes:
>BTW have you applied any rock powders (phosphate, greensand, granite,
>basalt or pyrophyllite) to your garden? Do you make compost for it? 
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>     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
>        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
>           internet:  bbs.oit.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80

I'd also like to hear more about uses of rock dust/rock flour for agriculture
(the idea keeps coming up).  I'd suppose that the rocks _needed_ are the
rocks not generally found in that locality, so you'd haul stuff in?
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
From: toma@hyperion.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tom Atwater)
Subject: Re: Perelandra ( was Re: a newsgroup for Whole Earth...)
Keywords: gardening  Perelandra
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, MD
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:50:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.042950.12200@samba.oit.unc.edu> Lawrence.London@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Lawrence London) writes:
>There's always something new and vital to learn in the garden.
>Focusing your attention on the elements and life in the soil
>can lead to amazing insights into how things work there
>and how to enhance those processes. 

While I have not spent a lot of time focusing on our garden in this way,
I agree with what you are saying.

My view of devas, nature spirits, etc. is that thay are our
personifications of a true deeper reality, which we have only begun
to sense. That is why each person seem to have their own version of
what these beings, entities, or whatever you want to call them.
In your case, you seem to choose not to personify phenomenon this at all,
which is just as valid a way of looking at this, in my opinion.

>BTW have you applied any rock powders (phosphate, greensand, granite,
>basalt or pyrophyllite) to your garden? Do you make compost for it? 

We followed the suggestions in the Perelandra Workbook, which was
to ask the deva to select from of a set of stuff, what to spread a
tiny amount of over the garden, in a sort of ritual. 
Greensand was one of these. Phosphate may have been also.
We did use bone meal as a fertilizer, but I guess that's not a rock
powder, is it.

We also asked what minerals, if any, we might add.
It answered fire agate, rutile (which we'd never heard of --
it's a kind of quartz), and something else which I can't recall.
These were 'planted' in specific spots as directed -- whole, 
not as a powder.

As to composting, no, we don't.
We don't know much about this.
One problem we might have is the smell -- the houses are packed so
tightly that the neighbors probably wouldn't like it (and maybe we wouldn't
either!).
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution,alt.pagan
From: hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts)
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution,ba.announce
Subject: Re: Think Globally, Dance Locally (Whole Earth Review, 9-19-92)
Date: 21 Aug 92 04:56:30 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link

Announcement/Invitations are being sent to all WER subscribers in the next
day or so.  Here's the basic info:
 
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The list of other contributors
who are coming includes Will Baker and George Gleason.
 
Point director Jon McIntyre has been plotting away on interesting people to
sit in with crazy fingers so the "surprise guests" should be interesting...
From: dwp+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug Philips)
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
Subject: Re: Rock dust (was Perelandra, was Whole Earth)
Summary: something salient, shortly stated, sadly seldom satoric
Keywords: gardening Findhorn Perelandra
Date: 23 Aug 92 13:14:20 GMT
Organization: EIEI-U

In article <1992Aug21.034026.11824@samba.oit.unc.edu> Lawrence.London@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Lawrence London) writes:
+In article <hank.714107921@well.sf.ca.us> hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts) writes:
+>I'd also like to hear more about uses of rock dust/rock flour for agriculture
+>(the idea keeps coming up).  I'd suppose that the rocks _needed_ are the
+>rocks not generally found in that locality, so you'd haul stuff in?
+Not necessarily. It would depend on the type of rock and what its trace
+mineral components were and whether it weathers naturally into finely
+granulated soil particles or not. Its always a good idea to add rock powders
+from other locales too.

Something has been bothering me about this thread, and with this message I
figured out what it was.  It seems to me (and I have not been reading the
messages in this thread closely) that Rock dust/powder is just a natural
subsitute for petro-chemical dosing of soil.  Perhaps I am just attached
to much to the "grow native plants" philosophy.  It seems to me that if
you stick with native plants (or at least native for the climate), then
you have plants which are already adapted for the area in which you are
growing them.  Importing rock dust/powder from another area seems to me
to be only a temporary fix, though perhaps not quite as emphermal as
petrochemical fertilizer.  The idea of exploiting natural resources
from one area to support another area, is the underlying philosophy that
bothers me, not whether the resource is oil based fertilizer or rock
powder.

-Doug

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Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
From: danny@cs.su.oz.au (Danny Yee)
Subject: What is this newsgroup?
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 05:21:01 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Summary: meaning of co-evolution

Why isn't this group part of the bionet hierarchy?  Or has co-evolution
acquired a new meaning since I last looked?

Danny Yee.
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
From: gordon@tramp.Colorado.EDU (GORDON ALLEN R)
Subject: Re: Rock dust (was Perelandra, was Whole Earth)
Keywords: gardening Findhorn Perelandra
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:06:03 GMT

hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts) writes:
>I'd also like to hear more about uses of rock dust/rock flour for agriculture
>(the idea keeps coming up).  I'd suppose that the rocks _needed_ are the
>rocks not generally found in that locality, so you'd haul stuff in?


Talk with Alden Bryant  510/525-4877.  He has gobs of info about rock dust
fertilizers.
-- 
Allen Gordon 		         *If the folly of but one of us was changed to*
Research Associate         	 *intelligence, and divided amongst a thousand*
gordon@tramp.colorado.edu   	 *toads, each would be more intelligent than  *
				 *Aristotle				      *
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
From: hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts)
Subject: Re: BT for Mosquito Control
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 03:15:06 GMT

In <1992Aug10.115754.10189@ncsu.edu> mwaldvog@ent1.ent.ncsu.edu (Michael Waldvogel) writes:

>In Message-ID: <hank.713209897@well.sf.ca.us>, hank@well.sf.ca.us 
>(Hank Roberts) wrote:
>>>>> This is just what I'm looking for, for a mountainside spring pond
>>near a camping place, perhaps.  How do I identify this sort of BT, or
>>can I be sure what's sold commercially is this sort?  So far we're 
>>happy to tolerate the mosquitoes, because the site has so many other
>>fun insects to watch that we don't want to risk damaging it.  But
>>there's one downstream puddle before the water soaks back into the
>>ground that I'd risk testing a "selective" BT on.  Good info, thanks,
>>I'd appreciate as much specific detail on this as you can offer.

>The product is sold under the name "Vectobac", BUT,  this is actually
>NOT one of the situations for which I would suggest using it.  The
>product should be used where *necessary* and I don't consider a mountain
>spring pond a legitimate use.  If you want nature, take *everything*
>that comes with it and use a repellent instead.  This wasn't intended as a 
>flame, just an opinion on the appropriate use of pesticides (which I
>realize for some folks amounts to never using them).

>Mike Waldvogel




>-- 
>----------------------------------------------
>| Michael Waldvogel  - waldvogel@ent.ncsu.edu |
>| Dept. of Entomology, N.C. State University  |
>| Raleigh, North Carolina  27695-7613         |
You're entirely correct, and I wasn't very clear -- I was thinking of
BT for a _water_tank_, not for a natural watercourse, but rather for
an artificial impoundment of still water.
Xref: sparky alt.books.reviews:34 alt.native:876
From: James Petts <pettsj@visigoth.demon.co.uk>
Subject: New TeX Books
Organization: No Affiliation
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:07:52 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

It's here at last!!!

Stefan v. Bechtolsheim's book, "TeX in Practice", has been announced by 
Springer-Verlag. It is in  fact a four volume set. Details below, from 
the ad in the latest TUGBoat.

Volume 1: Basics
1992/359 pp., 9 illus./Hardcover $49.00
ISBN 0-387-97595-0

Volume 2: Paragraphs, Maths, and Fonts
1992/384 pp., 22 illus./Hardcover $49.00
ISBN 0-387-97596-9

Volume 3: Tokens, Macros
1992/544 pp., 22 illus./Hardcover $49.00
ISBN 0-387-97597-7

Volume 4: Output Routines, Tables
1992/300 pp., 10 illus./Hardcover $49.00
ISBN 0-387-97598-5

Four Volume Set
1992/$169.00/ISBN 0387-97296-X
Monographs in Visual Communication


James Petts
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*  and the quantum theory on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays."   *
************************************** Wm. Bragg *******************
Newsgroups: alt.books.technical
From: chrism@col.hp.com (Chris Magnuson)
Subject: BOOKS FOR SALE!!
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 16:43:38 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division


   What follows is a list of more books for sale.  Terms are the same as before,
shipping is $4 additional, books are hardcover (unless noted), etc.  Best
offer, etc.

   Topics include electronics, DSP (digital signal processing), software
engineering, computer languages and data structures, and realtime
programming.

Chris Magnuson
chrism@col.hp.com
Software Engineer
Hewlett-Packard


*************************
Digital Signal Processing
*************************

  Theory and Application of Digital Signal Processing, Rabiner and Gold, ISBN
0-13-914101-4, 762 pages, $20.


******************
Software/Languages
******************

  A Book on C, Kelley and Pohl, ISBN 0-8053-6860-4, 362 pages, $8 (softcover).
  "Good beginning-intermediate C programming text."

  Compiler Design in C, Holub, ISBN 0-13-155045-4, 924 pages, $30.
  "Good implementation book on compiler writing and theory."

  Data Structures Using Pascal, Tenenbaum and Augenstein, Second Edition, 
ISBN 0-13-196668-5, 774 pages, $20.
  "The most used book on dta structures at the university level."

  Structured Design, Yourdon and Constantine, ISBN 0-13-854421-9, 473 pages,
$15.
  "The classic software design text."

  An Implementation Guide to Real-Time Programming, Ripps, ISBN 0-13-451873-X,
262 pages, $15.
  "Just like it says...implementation-oriented realtime book."

  Software Engineering: A Practitioner's Approach, Second Edition, Pressman,
   ISBN 0-07-050783-X, 567 pages, $13.
  "I hate to part with this one...McCabe/Halstead/metrics, data flow and
   design...just about everything you can think of including object-oriented
   design."

***********
Electronics
***********

  Circuit Theory Fundamentals and Applications, Budak, ISBN 0-13-133975-3,
590 pages, $10.
  "The best book there is for learning circuit theory from."

  Illustrated Encyclopedic Dictionary of Electronics, Douglas-Young, ISBN
0-13-450791-6, 606 pages, $10.
  " Good reference."

  Basic Electronics, Grob, Third Edition, ISBN 07-024917-2, 763 pages, $5.
  "Has a variety of topics, including tubes!"

  Electronic Devices and Circuits: Discrete and Integrated, Ghausi, ISBN
0-03-062481-9, 808 pages, $10.
  "Hot book on designing electronic circuits, from diodes through
   op-amps."

  Micro-Electronic Circuits, Sedra and Smith, ISBN 0-03-056729-7, 927 pages,
$15.
  "Another hot book...diodes, op-amps, FETs, transistors, etc."
  
  Analog-Digital Conversion Handbook, Third Edition, Sheingold, Ed., ISBN
  0-13-032848-0, 670+ pages, $10.
  "Want to know how analog-digital and digital-analog conversion works?"

  Microprocessor Architecture, Programming, and Applications, Gaonkar,
ISBN 0675-201594-05, 655+ pages, $10.
  "Designing with microprocessors is very 90's-ish."

  Analysis and Design of Analog Integrated Circuits , Second Edition, Gray
   and Meyer, ISBN 0-471-87493-0, 771 pages, $15.
  "Transistors, diff amps, op-amp stages, FETs..."

Xref: sparky alt.books.technical:224 misc.books.technical:1310
From: arao@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Andy Rao    )
Newsgroups: alt.books.technical,misc.books.technical
Subject: book club
Date: 23 Aug 92 19:43:23 GMT
Followup-To: poster

Does anybody know how good the Library of Science book club is?
(i think it is run by the people that publish scientific american)
do they have a good selection?  what about prices?

Xref: sparky alt.books.technical:219 misc.books.technical:1281
From: dbritton@anita.ICS.UCI.EDU ("David R. Britton Jr.")
Subject: WANTED: Computer Engineering: Hardware Design
Newsgroups: alt.books.technical,misc.books.technical
Date: 14 Aug 92 02:35:49 GMT

by Morris Mano.  My bookstore wants $59 for this book.
If you've got one in good condition (no highlighting
or pen- pencil ok) I'll give you $30 for it.

email or call (714) 856-0605
Xref: sparky alt.msdos.programmer:2190 comp.os.msdos.programmer:8514 comp.lang.c:12270
From: aedil@suarez.tes.cl ("Aedil Suarez")
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.lang.c
Subject: LANEY COLLEGE CALIFORNIA
Reply-To: aedil@suarez.tes.cl ("Aedil Suarez")
Distribution: INTERNATIONAL
Organization: D.C.C. Sistemas (USENET V.gamma)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:48:48 CST

Hello there :

i'll be very greatfull if someone could  send me ( e-mail me ) the
e-mail of the LANEY COLLEGE in California  because i need to contact
Mr. Jorge Garcia M. Sc. Senior Programer of The Economist System who
works
                 Thank you a lot

                 Elio.




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norbert@wiener.computer.tes.cl
info@stgodn.sence.tes.cl  ( chilean agency government )
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Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer
From: robert@solan.unit.no (Robert Schmidt)
Subject: Writing a boot password proggie, need tips
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 14:28:45 GMT


I'm trying to make a boot sector program that requests a password from the
user, and refuses to boot if the correct password is not corrected.

I've figured out this:
-  I'll save the original boot sector at the last physical sector on the
   disk.  Caveat: When I looked at this sector with DiskEdit I noticed
   some 'debris' from an earlier FORM-virus attack.  How can I pick a safe
   sector?  I thought about marking an unused sector bad, and use that...
   thoughts?
-  My boot program will relocate itself to 07c0h:0200h, that is, making
   room for loading the original boot sector, which must be put at
   07c0h:0000h.  Any hints on how to accomplish this?
-  I also want the harddisk to be unaccessible when the PC is booted with
   a DOS diskette in drive A:.  I guess I will have to modify one/some of
   the values in the drive parameter table at the start of the boot sector
   program, but which value(s)?
-  When a boot has been successfully accomplished on C:, I need to put
   back the 'bad values' sometime, to make the HD unaccessible at next
   boot-up.  A device driver in CONFIG.SYS sounds good enough.  Ideas?

If I ever finish this, I'll probably put it in the public domain, for you
guys to pick from ftp's and bbs'es.

Please reply via e-mail, it's easy to miss posts in News.

-- 
Cheers from Robert Schmidt, aka Ztiff Zox, aka Buuud (IRC).  E-mail to 
robert@solan.unit.no, snail-mail to Stud.techn. Robert Schmidt, Stud.post 170,
Norwegian Institute of Technology, 7034 Trondheim, NORWAY          

Warlords: Now do you think my .sig is boring enough?
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer
Subject: Help : Encryption Algorithms
From: ebolog@elaine.ee.und.ac.za (EDWIN BOLOGNA : THIRD)
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:15:52 +0200
Organization: Electronic Eng., Univ. Natal, Durban, South Africa


Does anyone out there happen to have PAS, C, or ASM source code to decode
and code good encryption algorithms.

Any information at all on any of these algorithms will be greatly appreciated.

        Desperate fellow programmer (And very Greatful for any information)

                E.B. (EBOLOG@ELAINE.EE.UND.AC.ZA)

PS : Please be kind hearted and Assist !
From: c3q@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer
Subject: news
Date: 17 Aug 92 01:22:47 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cornell University


My company is currently using C-worthy to interface windowing/menuing/etc.
routines to C on PC's.  Put succinctly, the package sucks.  Any reviews of
better packages for the next project?

E-mail or posts appreciated.

Travis J.I. Corcoran


Xref: sparky alt.msdos.programmer:2223 comp.os.msdos.programmer:8673 comp.lang.pascal:4936
From: holland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Rich Holland)
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.windows.ms.programmer,comp.lang.pascal
Subject: Windows and printscreen
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:15:34 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

When I started out, my task seemed simple enough!  i've got a 286 with 
MS-Win 3.0 installed and I've got to dial up a mainframe and ocasionally
get a printout of something.  It's such a hassle to hit PRTSCR, swap
back to windows, go into notepad, hit EDIT-PASTE-FILE-PRINT, and then
swap back to my program.  I figured it'd be pretty easy to intercept the
PRTSCR keypress by writing a "shell" around my comm program.

Here's what I thought I'd do (in TP5.5):

  .  Copy the Int 05h vector (should point to window's routine)
  .  Put ROM vector back in table (F000h:FF54h)
  .  Exec() the "comm" program (or any program, really)
  .  Restore the Int 05h vector for windows and exit

This should have the effect of sending the screen contents to the 
printer rather than to window's clipboard.  Additionally, I could
have it take a '-c' switch (for 'c'lipboard) to also call the
old windows interrupt and send it to the clipboard after it prints
it....

Easy, right?  WRONG.  I went into windows and did FILE-RUN and         
specified COMMAND.COM -- got a shell to DOS from within Win30.
I dumped the vector table via debug (debug, d0:0, q) and found
that the Int 05h vector was *STILL* pointing to F000h:FF54h!
And Win30 was *still* capturing the screen dumps!

How the heck's it doing that?  Am I going about this all wrong?
Any suggestions/ideas?  I s'pose I could use "Snipper" from PC-Mag,
but that's just one more hassle, i think...

 -- Rich

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From: linet2@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Lord Eugster)
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer
Subject: Re: Mem to Mem DMA ??
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:15:49 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

Yes, please post.  I am interested in using DMA to transfer a MCGA 320x256
-256 color image from an aux buffer to the actual screen regen buffer at
0A000h.  It would be very nice to have DMA do this for me since copying the
64k buffer to the actual screen regen buffer (0A000h) is taking up too much
processor load.

If there is a way for DMA to do memory-memory (or memory-video buffer)
transfers, please post how.

Thanks,
Eugster
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer