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From: davidj@informix.com (David Jennings CONTRACTOR)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:54:26 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

Most embarrasing movie:

In the category of "I could eat a script and shit a better movie", I
would cast my vote for "1990: The Bronx Warrior."

I went to see this tripe about 10 years ago while I was in college.  It
was about this beefcake street thug named Trash who rescued this 
rich girl from both other street thugs and the evil corporation that
runs the world.  The action was unconvincing, the dialogue was laughable,
and the acting was like listening to pro wrestlers speak in a monotone.

Oh yes, the flick featured Vic Morrow as a mean and nasty bounty hunter.
Vic's performance was so embarassing, he hurled himself into a helicopter
blade during the shooting of his next film.


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From: EEC@PORTIA.UMDS.LON.AC.UK (Steve P eec@portia.umds.lon.ac.uk)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Drowning by Numbers
Date: 11 Sep 1992 07:03:02 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Peter G also did a TV version of Dante's Inferno, which was shown by
Channel 4 (UK) last year.  As usual, piles of naked bodies and this was at
2pm on an Xmas afternoon !

Btw, his collaborator on the film was the artist Tom Phillips, who just
happens to be my Dad's cousin.....

PS  The rest of Greenaway's films are crap....

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From: nlazar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nicole Alana Lazar)
Subject: Re:Most Embarassing Movie
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 19:52:04 GMT

I once saw a movie SO bad that I have to this day repressed the title! All I
remember is that I saw it on a date (last time I went out with *that* guy!) and
it was directed by Peter Greenaway (sp?). It was about 4 hours long (seemed
longer) and consisted solely of 80 or so vignettes about people who were 
transformed into bird-like creatures or became obsessed with birds, following
some unexplained global tragedy. Most of the people walked out during the film;
I wanted to, but would have had no way of geting home, so I went to sleep 
instead, somewhere around vignette 30 (when I realized that nothing was going
to come of the flick - or the date!). Total dog!! Am I the only sucker who saw
this?

  Nicole.
Organization: Sophomore, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Date: Sun,  6 Sep 1992 08:26:13 -0400 
From: Stephen Andrew Rahe <sr3h+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Embarrassing films...

	Hate to admit it, but I believe that _Highlander II_ has more
cult-movie potential than  Rocky Horror. After all, Rocky Horror is bad
in a campy, fun way. Highlander II was so unbelievably bad that it was
PERFECT. Nothing could be done to make the movie worse than it already
was Everything sucked.
	Oh yeah, I almost forgot... a few years ago, I actually chose to see
that Dolph Lundgren masterpiece- Masters of the Universe. There's
nothing quite like watching a 90+ minute commercial...
			Steve
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From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: Various stuff RE Aliens, Terminator, etc.
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:01:17 GMT

In article <138590001@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com> mark@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com (Mark Bailey) writes:
>/ hpwin052:alt.cult-movies / Sime <TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu> /  5:31 pm  Sep  1, 1992 /
>>1st:
>>    Don't know about anyone else, but there were a few vauge similarities
>>twixt Aliens and T1 that I noticed:
>>----------
>
>How about:
>
>Bishop -      hyperdyne systems
>Terminators - cyberdyne systems
>

In that case we can add a third move:  Buckeroo Banzai

		Yoyodyne systems

Coincidence?  You be the judge . . . 

			-- Stewart "absolutely no quote this time" Tame

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From: gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: BAD??????
Keywords: why not good?
Date: 7 Sep 92 16:02:14 GMT
Organization: Ostfold College

What's all this talk about "Don't see this movie, it's shit!"
Why is it that nobody seem to like bad movies just because they are bad.
Haven't these people ever heard of irony. Not that I ever thaught of any of 
Lucio Fulci's films as ironic, at least they were'nt meant to be. But just 
don't take these films seriously. If you were to do that, you would probably 
rank Star Trek awfully near the bottom. Just enjoy. Don't get hung up on 
details like someone firing 200 zillion shots out of an Uzi without changin 
clip's. Take it with a smmile; it's better to laugh than to cry.
 
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From: vacek@athena.cs.uga.edu (George Vacek)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Aliens v Predator Movie??? (+ Alien 3)
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:49:29 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <92259.163639TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu> TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu (Sime) writes:
>I heard from the local comic book store owner that an A v P movie was being
>made.  Is this true?  He said it should be out by next year.
> ...
>Anyhow, if anyone knows true or false on the A v P movie, please let me know.

sorry, sime.  can't help you with an answer to that, but as long as we're 
on the A v P subject, and the movie subject, i'd like to mention:   

in the (horrible IMHO) movie Predator II, there is a scene towards the end of
the movie when D. Glover's character is in the Predator ship, where they show
a trophy case.  among the bleached skulls in the case, is a skull from an Alien.
i'd guess that many people have already noticed this, so don't bother posting
to tell me this is old news.  i just thought i'd point it out for those who
missed it.  don't bother to go see the movie just for this, though, cause it
sucks too much.

Croag
vacek@athena.cs.uga.edu

my opinions are my own. -- croag
(better .sign in progress)
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From: iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick)
Subject: Re: Various stuff RE Aliens, Terminator, etc.
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:03:39 GMT

In <1992Sep8.230616.19736@cbnewse.cb.att.com> gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:

>In article <1992Sep8.163556.23095@csl.sri.com> boucher@roche.csl.sri.com (Peter K. Boucher) writes:
>>
>>The biker, attacked in a pool-hall/bar by arnie in T2 is 
>>also attacked in a pool-hall/bar by vampires in Near Dark.
>>
>>What's his name?

>And a biker beat up in, I believe, Stone Cold.

>GMS

I don't have copies of T2 or Stone Cold so I can't cross-check but I
believe his name is Robert Winley.

Ian
From: michael@paul.bu.edu (Michael Chaplin)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Another Dune question
Date: 6 Sep 92 00:15:13 GMT
Organization: Boston University
In-reply-to: ieya@byron.u.washington.edu's message of 5 Sep 92 20:47:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.204742.5146@sbcs.sunysb.edu> ieya@byron.u.washington.edu (Morpheus Laughing) writes:
=how funny, i just watched it again on weds(the tv cut) and  i liked it so much
=more this time.  of course, i was also playing "spot the future twin peaks
=actors" (there are 4) :-> and caught the david lynch cameo that i'd never
=noticed for some reason. the sheild has been explained more than adequately,
=and the dog is most likely the atreides mascot/ symbol and a rallying point for
=the troops. i actually felt kind of sorry for the sardaukar at the end, kept
=thinking 'stop shooting at the worms! you're only pissing them off!' :-)
=one other thing tho, the copy i've got is narrated by a guy, i'm almost postive
=that the first time i watched it on tv, it was narrated by irulan, or is that
=the video release? or am i just misremembering it? anybody else seen it with
=narration by irulan?

The TV version, if I'm not mistaken, is the one narrated by the guy
(perhaps one of the Fremen?). Both the theater and video releases,
though, were narrated by Irulan. Personally, I preferred the guy.
The timber of his voice helped the film, insofar as it's supposed
to be a recollection of a messiah.

my $.02,
Chaplin.
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From: davidj@informix.com (David Jennings CONTRACTOR)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Nosferatu - The Vampyre?
Date: 10 Sep 92 23:42:06 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <BuCpLM.HHF@agora.rain.com> hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins) writes:
>
>	Anyone know how to get a copy of the remake of Nosferatu -
>Nosferatu - The Vampyre?  I don't think it has been released on video or
>laserdisc yet, but it's worth a shot.  Anyone seen it?  How does it compare
>to the first and the novel?
>
>			-Casey Hopkins
>			hopkins@agora.rain.com
>
>	BTW, it has Klaus Kinski in it.

The remake of Nosferatu had a fairly decent Gothic atmosphere, but it
also had the pacing of a glacier.  My advice is to stick with the original
silent version.  If you absolutely need to see a recent horror film
featuring a vampire with chipmunk teeth, I would suggest "Salem's Lot"
starring David "Hutch" Soul.  SL is mid-grade Stephen King drivel, but
at least the story keeps moving.

Have fun,
-- dave
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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Various stuff RE Aliens, Terminator, etc.
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:06:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.163556.23095@csl.sri.com> boucher@roche.csl.sri.com (Peter K. Boucher) writes:
>
>The biker, attacked in a pool-hall/bar by arnie in T2 is 
>also attacked in a pool-hall/bar by vampires in Near Dark.
>
>What's his name?

And a biker beat up in, I believe, Stone Cold.

GMS
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer)
Subject: Re: akira
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 06:32:29 GMT

eda927lsft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au writes:

>Does anyone no of any more animated movies from the japanense dudes that
>did Akira
   "Harmageddon"- a tale of a bunch of psychics fighting nasty demons
intent on destroying the earth.
   "Roujin Z"- A senile man is "adopted" by his computer driven bed and
taken on a very interesting journey.
If you liked "Akira you might as well check out the comic version put out by
epic comics.

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From: ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer)
Subject: Re: Akira
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 04:30:23 GMT

ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer) writes:

>tzau4@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
>
>>Are ther any good Japaneese anamation like Akira on video? I bought 
>>Clash of the BioNoids (with characters from the robotech I think) but
>>it was god awful. Also bought a Speed Racer. pretty sad, made me laugh
>>tho. I want good flicks, preferably in English, but I suppose Ill also
>>check out some sub-title ones...
>>Also of any addresses?
>>I know Heavy Metal mag has some ads for em, but looking for any others
>>
>>Thanks
>    Check out any video store (since you live in a college town) that offers
>the wierd stuff. If they don't have it then write to:
>Streamline Pictures: Po box 691418 W Hollywood, CA. 90069 USA.
>US Manga Corp: 301 west 53rd st. siute 13e,New York,New York.10019 (212)977-
>7456
>US Renditions: 1123 Dominguez street. unit k, Carson California 90746 (213)
>604-9701
>Animiego: po box 989 Wilmington NC,28402. (919) 799-1501
>
>My recommendations are:
>Vampire Princess Miyu (Animiego) a story about Japanese vampires
>Doninion 1-4 (US MANGA Corps) cops in tanks patrol in bladerunner type city
>Black Magic m-66 (US manga Corps) a nifty terminator rip off.
>Project Ako(US Manga Corps) cute Japanese school girls destroy city
>in masive cat fight. Watch for appearance by Superman and wonder woman
>Bubble gum crisis (animiego) babes in neat armor blast evil corporate
>thugs in futuristic Tokyo
    OOps I forgot to add:
Riding Bean(Animiegoeigo) professional getaway car driver gets involved in a frame up- based in Chicago

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From: tony@ajax.Stanford.EDU (Tony Evans)
Subject: Re: Eye at the beginning (was BLADE RUNNER: $$$$$$)
Organization: Department of Chemical Engineering, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 23:06:06 GMT

In article <ddebry.716595955@itchy> David DeBry <ddebry@dsd.es.com>  writes:
>In <1992Sep15.145621.1@cgsvax.claremont.edu> walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu writes:
>>As an aside, I've always been under the impression that the eye that fills
>>the screen at the beginning of the film belongs to Holden, not Deckard.
>>I justify this by the fact that the shots intercut with the eye bring
>>us continuously closer to the window Holden is standing at; by the flames
>>reflected in the eye, which indicate the person is standing in an elevated
>>building, like Holden (while Deckard is almost always at street level); and
>>by the fact that when we do cut to the inside of the building, we see 
>>Holden turning away from the window, as though he has just been looking out
>>at the flames over the city.  I can't think of anything to support the view
>>that the eye is Deckard's, unless there's something in the script I don't
>>know about.  Comments?

>
>	It's neither.
>
>	The Blade Runner who was on this assignment before Decker (I'm
>sorry, I've forgotten his name) is the person at the beginning who was
>administering the Voight-Kampf test to Leon.  He was going through all
>the new employees at Tyrell Corp. to see any were replicants.
>

Isn't this exactly what the first guy just said?  Holden IS the
bladerunner who administers the VK test on Leon.

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From: PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Nosferatu - The Vampyre?
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 10:29:28 EDT

In article <BuCpLM.HHF@agora.rain.com>
hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins) writes:
 
>
>	Anyone know how to get a copy of the remake of Nosferatu -
>Nosferatu - The Vampyre?  I don't think it has been released on video or
>laserdisc yet, but it's worth a shot.  Anyone seen it?  How does it compare
>to the first and the novel?
>
>			-Casey Hopkins
>			hopkins@agora.rain.com
>
>	BTW, it has Klaus Kinski in it.
>
I saw it in the theater and on video.  I  thought the movie was
excellent, but if you like a lot of action, forget it.  It's
moody and atmospheric (in a different way than the 1922 version -
which by the way, is available in a restored version).  The 1979
version with Klaus Kinski has beautiful photography, suspense,
and great perfs.  I know that a friend of mine who co-owns
Eccentri-Cinema has (had?) it on video.  I don't know about the
quality, but the video version I saw was flawless.
 
Pete.
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From: jwp@panix.com (JongWoo Park)
Subject: Hallelujah the Hills ... anyone seen this?
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 05:07:19 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

I saw above titled movie on this Sunday, and rather puzzled.
What is that title referring to?
What's the deal with that rectangle which shows up once in a while?
What are they doing in the forest?
The "makers" of this movie ... what other movies did they make?
Anyone saw this movie?
( If you are curious, Hallelujah the Hills will be shown again
on this Saturday, September 12th at 12:00 noon in Museum of Modern Art
of New York.  It is part of "Cannes 45 Years: Festival International du
Film". )
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From: Sean.Smith@cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: George A Romero's Zombie films
Date: 8 Sep 92 06:20:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.gef=OUG00gt2AAY1IF
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

First: I believe the Romero Zombie films are: 
	Night of the Living Dead (original)
	Dawn of the Dead
	Day of the Dead
Romero was tangentially involved with the recent NoLD remake.

Second: for more information about Romero's work than you probably 
ever wanted to know, check out:

	Paul R. Gagne.
	_The Zombies that Ate Pittsburgh_
	New York: Dodd, Mead and Company, 1987.


--Sean

sean.smith@cs.cmu.edu                     	     school of computer
science
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From: iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Nosferatu - The Vampyre?
Date: 12 Sep 92 15:22:06 GMT
Organization: Carleton University

In <1992Sep11.142320.7323@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:

>In article <1992Sep10.234206.14613@informix.com> davidj@informix.com (David Jennings CONTRACTOR) writes:
>>In article <BuCpLM.HHF@agora.rain.com> hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins) writes:
>>>

>Actually, I thought both versions had the pacing of a glacier. And the
>Vampire in Salems Lot is a direct clone/ripoff of Kinski in Werner Herzog's
>version. 
>I liked Salems Lot but I prefer to remember David Soul for his terrible 
>singing career, rather than his TV shows. 
>What the hell was that big hit he had? My copy of his album is 60 miles
>away, filed under "humorous".
><All IMHO>
><No flames accepted from David Soul fans. Sorry.>

>					--Judex--

Well, I REALLY like Herzog and it is hard for him to do wrong in my
eyes but that's neither here nor there.  Your comments on David Soul
are perfectly timed as I'm currently engaged in an off-net
"Soul-search".  In the name of kitsch we are trying to track down that
single...it was quite a big hit at the time.  The name, or at least
main refrain was "Don't give up on us baby."  We've been trying to
figure out if it was a cover or a song written for soul... it was
*almost* bad enough to have been written by Soul, but not quite bad
enough.

Ian
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From: dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner (*Spoilers*)
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:23:16 GMT

In article <BZXyqB2w165w@unkaphaed.UUCP> phaedrus@unkaphaed.UUCP (James Hartman, Sysop) writes:
>Some scenes seemed longer, especially when we're driving/flying around showing
>off the city.  After all, we paid for them special effects, and we're a'gonna
>use them...  :-)

I got this feeling as well, but I'm not sure that the scenes are actually
longer. It may just be the lack of narration causing them to "feel"
longer than they used to.

>Everyone who we think is a replicant has a "glowing eye" sequence.

Except Zhora (unless I just didn't notice it). I've yet to see her eyes
glow.
                                            -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
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From: mdouglas@cad067.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Maria Douglas ~)
Subject: Re: Lovecraft movie
Organization: Intel Corp.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:37:43 GMT


|> >I've read all the other replies to this poor guy's question, and
|> >no one else seems to know.  The movie you are looking for, Espen,
|> >is called "The Resurrected."  You will recognize a lot of the
|> >actors/actress (I don't know their names), and the acting stinks,
|> >but it is, IMHO, THE BEST Lovecraftian film ever made, true to the
|> >story and the genre (not to mention the role-playing game :-).
|> >DO rent this if you can.  It's a modern retelling of "Charles Dexter
|> >Ward," but it still largely retains the flavor of the older setting.
|> >
|> >Hope you like it, too!

|> 
|>  Just a minor quibble, but why would anyone care that a movie based on a 
|> short story is true to a game that borrowed the whole setup as soon as the
|> material came into public domain, damn near?
|> I wwould like to believe that the heirs to Lovecrafts estate make money off
|> of all this stuff, but somehow I doubt it. It has been too long.
|> 
|> 					--Judex--

-- 
Point well-taken.  I was just tipping my cap to the very large population
of fantasy role-players who read great quantities of Lovecraft and who
try hard to recreate that ambience in the "Call of Cthulhu" games.  They
often watch as many Lovecraftian movies as they can get their hands on
to get ideas, appreciate a film-maker's interpretation of the setting, etc.,
which is largely what the roleplaying game does in a different way.
In fact, the great thing about "The Resurrected" is that is captures the
Lovecraftian nightmares cinematically in such a way that anyone who
plays the game can appreciate significantly (as well as anyone who reads
the books :-).

Well, I hope I cleared up my meaning.  This would be a great discussion
on some kind of FRP news net (although I'm not sure one exists).

Maria
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