From: S947607@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (Pavel Nikiforovitch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: European Cups standings so far
Date: 9 Nov 1992 16:01:30 -0600
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 This is the table which illusrates European Cups 1992/93 standing so
 far (as on October 26)

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      |           |            T E A M S             |    P O I N T S
      |           |                                  |
      |           |              after               |   cur-     expec-
PLACE |  COUNTRY  |  started    1st round     now    |   rent      ted
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  1     RUSSIA       1+1+2=4     1+1+2=4     1+1+1=3     6.250   10.031
  2     NETHERLANDS  1+1+3=5     1+1+2=4     1+1+2=4     5.800    9.750
  3     BELGIUM      1+1+3=5     1+1+3=5     1+1+2=4     5.600    9.550
  4     ITALY        1+1+4=6     1+1+4=6     1+1+2=4     6.167    9.459
  5     FRANCE       1+1+3=5     1+1+2=4     1+0+2=3     5.500    8.650
  6     CSFR         1+1+2=4     1+1+1=3     0+1+1=2     5.000    7.156
  7     PORTUGAL     1+1+3=5     1+1+2=4     1+0+1=2     4.800    7.025
  8     SPAIN        1+1+4=6     1+1+2=4     0+1+2=3     4.333    6.541
  9     TURKEY       1+1+2=4     0+1+2=3     0+0+1=1     4.250    5.406
 10     GERMANY      1+2+4=7     0+1+3=4     0+0+2=2     3.857    5.178
 11     LATVIA       1+0+0=1     -------     -------     5.000    5.000
 11     ISRAEL       1+1+0=2     -------     -------     5.000    5.000
 13     GREECE       1+1+2=4     1+1+1=3     0+1+0=1     3.750    4.750
 14     SWEDEN       1+1+2=4     1+0+0=1     1+0+0=1     3.000    4.625
 15     SCOTLAND     1+1+3=5     1+0+2=3     1+0+0=1     2.800    4.100
 16     ENGLAND      1+1+2=4     1+1+1=3     -------     3.750    3.750
 17     SWITZERLAND  1+1+2=4     1+1+1=3     -------     3.500    3.500
 18     UKRAINE      1+1+1=3     0+0+1=1     -------     3.000    3.000
 19     ROMANIA      1+1+3=5     1+1+0=2     0+1+0=1     2.000    2.800
 20     DENMARK      1+1+2=4     0+1+2=3     -------     2.750    2.750
 21     AUSTRIA      1+1+3=5     1+1+0=2     -------     2.200    2.200
 22     SLOVENIA     1+1+1=3     -------     -------     2.000    2.000
 23     HUNGARY      1+1+1=3     0+0+1=1     -------     1.667    1.667
 24     POLAND       1+1+2=4     1+0+0=1     -------     1.500    1.500
 24     BULGARIA     1+1+2=4     -------     -------     1.500    1.500
 26     LUXEMBOURG   1+1+1=3     -------     -------     1.333    1.333
 27     WALES        0+1+0=1     -------     -------     1.000    1.000
 27     FINLAND      1+1+1=3     -------     -------     1.000    1.000
 27     N. IRELAND   1+1+1=3     -------     -------     1.000    1.000
 27     NORWAY       1+1+1=3     -------     -------     1.000    1.000
 31     CYPRUS       1+1+1=3     -------     -------     0.667    0.667
 31     IRELAND      1+1+1=3     -------     -------     0.667    0.667
 31     MALTA        1+1+1=3     -------     -------     0.667    0.667
 34     FAROES       1+1+0=2     -------     -------     0.500    0.500
 35     ICELAND      1+1+1=3     -------     -------     0.333    0.333
 36     LITHUANIA    1+0+0=1     -------     -------     0.000    0.000
 36     ESTONIA      1+0+0=1     -------     -------     0.000    0.000
 36     LIECHTENST.  0+1+0=1     -------     -------     0.000    0.000
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 Some explanations:
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 1.) "a+b+c=d" means "a teams in Champion's Cup, b teams in Cup Winner's
     Cup, c teams in UEFA Cup, and d (a+b+c) teams overall."
 2.) "-------" means "0+0+0=0".
 3.) I assume everyone knows that every team gets 2 points for win, 1
     point for draw, and 1 point for qualifying to quarterfinals/semifi-
     nals/finals. (By the way, there will be no semifinals in Champion's
     Cup, because of new formula.) Then the whole bunch of points got
     by all teams of the country is divided on the number of teams of
     this country, started in the EuroCups.
 4.) How do I count the "expected points per team" ? Well, there are 52
     remaining points in Champion's Cup which will be divided among 8
     remaining teams (6.500 per team), 32 remaining points in Cup Win-
     ner's Cup which will be divided among 8 remaining teams (4.000 per
     team), and 74 remaining points in UEFA Cup which will be divided
     among 16 remaining teams (4.625 per team). Sure, those points will
     not be divided equally, but for expectation we should assume they
     will. So, the more current points per team you have, the more teams
     of your country remain in EuroCups, and the less teams started in
     EuroCups -- the more "expected points" you deserve.
       For example, Belgium started will 5 teams this season. Belgium now
     has 5.600 points per team. There are 4 (1+1+2) remaining Belgian
     teams in EuroCups so far. So, according to fair expectation, they'll
     get 6.50 + 4.00 + 9.25 = 19.750 more points. 19.750 / 5 = 3.950.
     5.600 + 3.950 = 9.551 "expected points per team".
       If I posted just "current points per team", it wouldn't be fair
     table.

Now some conclusions:
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1.) The preliminary round was very succesful for Israel, Slovenia, Lat-
    via, Ukraine and Luxembourg, who lost no teams. However, in the first
    round all of them lost all their teams (except Ukraine, who retained
    "Dinamo"(Kiev)). Only Italy, Russia and Belgium retained all their
    teams in the first round. In the second round only Netherlands and
    Sweden lost no teams.

2.) Only Russia, Netherlands, Belgium and Italy still keep teams in all
    three Cups.

3.) According to the table above, the current "Big Five" of Europe are
    Russia, Netherlands, Belgium, Italy and France. Well... no Germany,
    Spain, England... And Russia is the first !!! Maybe, disintegration
    of the USSR was helpful ? I always had thought just the opposite...

    Well, that's all so far. Please feel free to add your comments and
    objections. Please don't ask me what the meaning of all this is.
    There is no meaning, all written above has been written just for fun.

    After November 25 I'll update
    all this stuff.