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From: dunster@sdsu.edu (mark dunster)
Subject: Re: Radical Rule Change: Limit Keeper
Organization: sdsu
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 02:34:27 GMT

In article <Bw8Fzs.E53@Novell.COM>, oluf_olson writes:
> 
> How about limiting the Keepers so we see more goals? I really don't
> know of any other popular sport that allows a good shot to be stopped 
> by another player. I don't consider hockey to be popular.  In basketball
> they call it goal tending. 
> 
> By limiting the keeper I mean something like:
> 
> A) Disallow use of hands.
> 
> B)  Take out the keeper entirely
> 
> C)  Make the goal larger. Say raise it to 6 meters.
> 
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I've played soccer in the state soccer league for
> 5 years now. I just would like to see it more appealing to more people
> in my country. Games that end 0-0 are usually boring. And in soccer,
> games that end 0-0 are probably more common than games with such
> an ending in any other sport.
> 
> So lets face it, the keepers have improved too much and have made
> it too difficult to achieve 3-4 goals a game consistently.
> 
> Oluf
> 


Thanks, Oluf!  This made my day. I always like to have a good laugh,
and I appreciate your sense of humour! Perhaps we could make the
goals stretch from corner flag to corner flag, and limit the number
of players in each team to three (no goalies of course). Then maybe 
we would have delightful basketball scores!

Cheers,

Mark.


P.S. I disagree somewhat with your statement about (ice) hockey. It
is getting quite popular, even here in California. Since coming here
from England a few years ago, I've really become a fan of this 
exciting game. And Oluf, you should like it, in general it has more 
goals scored than in soccer! :-)

Up the Canucks!  Up the Saints (sob).
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: james@brock.b17b.ingr.com (James Brock)
Subject: Re: Team USA in World Cup '94
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:09:47 GMT

There is no way the FIFA will allow matches to be played
on artificial surfaces.

As to another professional, reputable football league in North
America, it is my opinion that: IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN, at least
in the next 50 years. It is heartening to see the excitement, the
intelligent discussions, the passion, but for many, many reasons
the inception of a league will never commence.

Also, please do not see the Weltmeisterschaft 1994 as being
the event that will ensure the success of a North American
league! It will be a wonderful, exciting (I hope) event, but
it takes more than that to create a league. There is too 
much here, and too little chance. Rothenburg may have some
good ideas, but his love and passion for the game leaves much
to be desired.
From: CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Team USA in World Cup '94
Date: 16 Oct 1992 16:09:50 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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 >US and artificial surfaces..

No, there will be grass in the Silverdome, FIFA has ruled!!!!

Best, Chris

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From: cbar40@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Scottish Football Mourns Ibrox Legend
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:08:31 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <1992Oct15.090641.10528@spider.co.uk>, scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson) writes:
> Rangers legend Willie Waddell, former player, manager, general manager and
> vice-chairman of the club, died after a heart attack in a Glasgow Hospital.
> He was 71. Nicknamed `Deedle', he made his Rangers debut in August 1938 and
> scored the winner against Arsenal at Ibrox. He was a brilliant right winger
> and his partnership with Willie Thornton formed one of the most lethal
> spearheads in Scottish Football. He won every domestic honour and played 17
> times for Scotland. He was the man who masterminded the rebuilding of Ibrox
> after the disaster in 1971 when 66 people died, and the ground today is a
> tribute to his foresight. He guided Rangers to the Cup-Winners Cup in 1972
> when they beat Moscow Dynamo in Barcelona then quit to become general
> manager, then vice chairman and finally an honourary director of the club.
> 
There are too few like Waddell left in the game.  Even as a Celtic fan it is
difficult not to be impressed by his contribution to the game as a player,
journalist (although I must rely on heresay for this), manager with both
Kilmarnock and Rangers and visionary - there can be few men who have done so
much in their life for one side as he.  Ibrox and the trophy rooms of years 
gone by are a fine memorial to the man.  

> --
> Scott Jackson
> Spider Systems Limited
> Edinburry
> Sco'lind

Dan
CBAR40@VAXA.STRATH.AC.UK
From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re : Old Firm Trivia
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:39:08 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster


In a recent post SHUGHES@ESTEC.BITNET wrote this.......

>All you Celtic/Rangers fans get your teeth into this

>1)From the current Rangers playing squad,name
>   a)Who has been arrested the most?
>   b)Who is the ugliest?
>   c)Who turned down the oppertuinity to play Donatello in Turtles 2 ?

OK cant argue here !!

but..................

>2)What happened to all the money Celtic generated when they had the great
>  European/Domestic run (from mid 60`s to mid 70`s) ?

One of life's big mysteries.  Certainly never got invested in the stadium.
Rumour has it that the money used to buy  Stuart Slater recently was the money
which they recieved in 1983 for the sale of Charlie Nicholas to Arsenal.
However I reckon it was the Dalglish money (plus interest) which bought
Slater.

>3)How many Rangers fans got arrested in Barcelona after their triumph in
>  European Cup Winners Cup? (bonus point if you know the number of guns that we
>  re pinched from the Spanish police)

It was the Spanish polis's fault !!


>4)What level of mathematical ability is the person(S) who are responsible for
>  submitting the attendance at Parkhead?

Probably  just slightly greater than you.........


>5)At Celtic Park the fans are regarded as the so called "12 th" man,but
>  what/who is the "12 th" man for Rangers(clue: He is usually dressed in
>  black and give`s out funny handshakes!)?

I always thought it was ability which won games, not moaning about  the 
"Mason in the Black" who cost you the game.  Remember *after* the 1991
Skol Cup Final when it was disclosed  that Celtic fans had hired a 
private detective to investigate the "background" of referee  Jim McCluskey.
(For readers outside Scotland, McCluskey was the referee that day, Rangers 
won 2-1 and there  is no link between the two).  The Celtic fans reckoned
he had some Masonic connection but the story died a death cos it was 
such a load of paranoid nonsense.


>6) Using statistical analysis work out the probability of Celtic ever being
>   given a penalty against Rangers in
     a)any game ?
     b)in a game refereed by Andrew Waddell?

I think the answer to 5) applies here again. Part b) is joke though !!
I guess you never saw last seasons Scottish Cup semi which he refereed.
Still, you had your chances that night, never took them and you were oot.


>Send your answers A.S.A.P the lucky winner will win a night out on the town
>with the suave,sophisticated Ian Ferguson! Yes YOU and Fergie will dine out
>at any Kebab shop of YOUR liking.After that it`s down town Glasgow to a night
>club(one of which he is not barred from).Then you will proceed to get "mad
>wae the drink" in due course abusing girls,starting fights and being sick in
>public and the end of the night you will be chauffeur driven by the Strathclyde
>Police to your Hotel for the night.......So get cracking

Sounds a bit like my night in Boston except it cost me about $60 to
get home !!
-- 
Sandy Mackinnon
University of Strathclyde
Glasgow
cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
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Subject: mail-to-news failure
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From: "Christopher S. Allen" <CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Ireland's unblemished recored?????
To: rec-sport-soccer <rec-sport-soccer@cs.utexas.edu>

 >> USA           3:1          Ireland
 > importance beyond the game itself.

Well, the Irish squad used all of their top players and Jackie Charlton
assumed they would beat the US easily. This was a case of underestimating
a US squad that finally had all its internationals together for the first
time.

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From: ballm@mala.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: English wed results please!!
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:41:34 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

 wednesday results uk please

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From: RWG@buc.edu.au (Rod Griffin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: soccer games
Keywords: games
Date: 13 Oct 92 06:52:02 GMT
Organization: Ballarat University College
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Are there any good soccer games suitable for the IBM kicking around the 
network. If there are I would appreciate a reply.
Thanks,
Rod Griffin                                "I hate Illinois Nazis"
Finance Section                             - Blues Brothers
Ballarat University College
Gear Ave
Mt Helen
Victoria 
Australia 3350
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From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Rangers//Leeds game on TV in the USA ?
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:43:38 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

A desparate plea....I've put something like this out before but here
goes again.  Anyone know of how I could see the forthcoming Rangers/Leeds
European Cup ties  on televvision in Providence, RI.  Any help 
appreciated.   Please e-mail me direct on cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk

Cheers

-- 
Sandy Mackinnon
University of Strathclyde Usually
But in exile at Brown Uni just now

cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
From: waddlech@wam.umd.edu (David Akkarach)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re:  Expanding Media Coverage for Soccer in the US
Date: 9 Oct 1992 14:35:38 -0500
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Chris,

Don't worry about CNN since they show soccer already on their WORLD DAY
show at 10am weekdays. The morning after the EC matches, they usually
will post all group scores in the sports segment and then maybe show
a highlight or two. It's unfortunate that we can only see this in
their WORLD DAY news since they never even mention soccer in their other
news programs. Ironically, my contacts in Europe say that the CNN
produced for the European viewers always have soccer news first and
is the most important of all their sports shown by CNN. Strange, it's
like they have all the resources to show goals and highlights but
they just don't because nobody in the US cares about it (CNN's view).
Also, all of CNN's news production is from ATLANTA! :-) Maybe you can
call them up locally and ask them why they never mention soccer goals/
highlights on their US news programs when they have all the resources
available to show it in Europe instead. :-(

Cheers!

-Dave
Date: Tuesday, 13 Oct 1992 09:45:18 CET
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Hungary round 9
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)

Round 9 Hungary (results from last Wednesday, haven't seen them posted yet)
>
Bekescsaba      2-0 Novep
Csepel          2-1 MTK
Nyiregyhaza     1-1 Vasas
Videoton        4-2 Vac
Pecs            3-1 Raba ETO
Ujpesti TE      3-2 Veszprem
Ferencvaros     3-1 Diosgyor
Kispest         2-1 Siofok
>
--
-- Karel Stokkermans, RISC-Linz, Schloss Hagenberg, Austria, Europa
 -- email: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (or k314070@edvz.uni-linz.ac.at)
"O hoe vergeefs / des doelmans hand / zich strekte naar de bal    [  21-6-88,  ]
 die 'een minuut / voor tijd de Duitse / doellijn kruiste..."     [ J. Deelder ]
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From: geh@cs.nott.ac.uk (Gavin Edward Hutchinson)
Subject: German Cup
Reply-To: geh@cs.nott.ac.uk ()
Organization: Nottingham University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 12:10:26 GMT


Does anyone have the results of the German cup 3rd(?) round which was played
recently ?. If so could you send them to me please at

		geh@cs.nott.ac.uk

or just post them to r.s.s

And could someone also tell me why Koeln are doing so badly this season ??

Thanks

Gavin
From: S947607@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (Pavel Nikiforovitch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Lithuanian LYGA Round 11
Date: 14 Oct 1992 17:00:40 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

The postings about 10th and 11th rounds of Lithuanian League are very informa-
tive, but since I know only rounds 1-8 results, how can I read them ? Please
someone post 9th round results !!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: mfiguero@lonestar.utsa.edu (Miguel . Figueroa)
Subject: Mexico vs. Germany (Oct. 14)
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:06:55 GMT


  Does anybody abroad know anything about an upcoming game between
  Mexico and Germany on Oct. 14 to be played in Dressden(sp?)?

  Please post the score if the game is positively going to be played
  and a summary would also be appreciated. Thank You!

  Miguel Figueroa-Delgado
  UT-San Antonio
  mfiguero@lonestar.utsa.edu
From: CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: letter again...
Date: 9 Oct 1992 14:23:44 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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David,

ABC is a good idea too, particularly since they are the official, non-cable
World Cup outlet. Even though they own ESPN, the two are separate organ-
izations.

BTW, as you can see, I also am including your message as well as my
responses on the net, so others can contribute to this discussion too.

Best, Chris

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From: mppu3@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Conor McMenamin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Blackburn and other trends....
Date: 9 Oct 92 08:14:52 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Can anyone come close to Forests run in the late 70's-early 80's of
Promotion-Champions-European Cup Winners in sucessive seasons???

Lets see if Blackburn can....with Shearer in his current form I wouldn't
put it past them!
From: CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Blackburn Rovers News wanted - Roy Wegerle
Date: 10 Oct 1992 16:52:36 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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 >...news of Roy Wegerle

After languishing on the bench for the first part of the season, he got
a start last saturday and scored 2 goals in a 7:1 win. He also scored
a goal in Tuesday's Coca Cola Cup match.

British correspondents may have more detail on this.

Best, Chris

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From: weisz@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.weisz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Team USA in World Cup '94
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:00:30 GMT
Organization: AT&T

From the Chicago Tribune, 10-15-92:

USA team will play its three first-round games on June 18, 1994,
in the Pontiac Michigan Silverdome;  on June 22, 1994 in the Rose Bowl,
Pasadena, California; and on June 26, 1994, also in the Rose Bowl.

Of course, opponents to be determined in the December 1993 WC Draw.

Germany plays in the Opening Game on June 17, 1994, at Soldier Field,
Chicago.  Then they play on June 21 again in Chicago, and on June 27
in Dallas, Texas.  The winner of the Group Germany is in will play
the round-of-16 game in Chicago, and then qurterfinals in New York.

The US selected Pontiac, Michigan, and Pasadena, California, for
tv considerations and preference of coach Milutinovic.

The article goes on to say that one of the advantages of the Pontiac
Silverdome is the US's familiarity with artificial surfaces. 

 QUESTION
FOR OTHER READERS: Did FIFA allow the artificial surface to be used?
What ever happened to the growing-grass-indoors experiment?

See you all at World Cup.

Play on.

Robert Weisz
Naperville, Illinois USA
...att!ihlpe!weisz
  
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From: 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za
Subject: Re: chesterfield.....YOU'RE NOTHING!!!
Organization: Wits University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 13:43:21 RSA

In article <1992Oct9.125011.11140@wam.umd.edu>
hotshot@wam.umd.edu (Captain Marvel) writes:
 
>
>In article <1992Oct8.120453.13113@phillip.edu.au> t8914229@phillip.edu.au writes:
>>MY BELOVED LIVERPOOL 4                 chesterfield 1
>>
>>well, you came close the first time but you're just NOT GOOD ENOUGH!
>>you thought you had a chance against MY BELOVED but face it, you're just
>>a bunch of shit and sneaking 4 past us at home in the first leg meant
>>
>>       =================================
>>       | GRAEME SOUNESS - THE GREATEST |
>>       =================================
>
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> I think this guy has brain cancer !!!!
>
 
Not only that, I think he had a bad childhood. What an arsehole !!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Holland - Poland
From: ioffe@chen.bgu.ac.il (Alex Ioffe)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:34:55 GMT
Organization: Ben Gurion University, Beer Sheva, Israel

bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
: Here the expected Dutch lineup for the game against Poland tomorrow
: (= Wednesday) in Rotterdam:
:
: Menzo            (G)
: R. Koeman        (D)
: Rijkaard         (D)
: Van Aerle        (D)
: Numan            (M)
: Jonk             (M)
: Wouters          (M)
: Winter/Vanenburg (M)
: Bergkamp         (A)
: Van Basten       (A) * Captain
: Van Vossen       (A)
:
: And the expected result: 2-0
:
: --
: -  Q: Why do I like white beans in /\  Mischa Bronstring (bronstri@fwi.uva.nl) -
: -     tomatosauce?                 \/    Schoterbosstraat 15                   -
: -  A: Because PSV Eindhoven plays  /\      2023 TR  Haarlem                    -
: -     in white and red!            \/        HOLLAND                           -

Where is Hoolit(?spelling)?
What with him?

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From: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: Denmark panel for wednesday anyone?????
Reply-To: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:58:35 GMT

--
In article <9210080332.AA11203@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu>, CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen) writes:

|>Attn: Gary Spain
|>
|>>...we have only lost 3 competitive games in the last five years and
|>>none since 1990
|>
|>One moment please.......
|>
|> May 1992    RFK Stadium - Washington
|>
|>               USA             3:1              Ireland
|>
|> The US national team won the US Cup with a 1:0 victory over Portugal
|>and a 1:1 draw with Italy. It was the only time they had all their
|>wandering internationals together at the same time.

While it was a good achievement by the U.S. to win the tournament it
could not be considered a competitive match and would be classed as a
friendly International similiar to the one in Dublin in April when we
beat you 4-1.

By competitive games I mean world cup and European championship qualifiers
and final.


       Gary Spain, DEC, Galway, Ireland   - spain@galvia.enet.dec.com

  On being a football fan: "I am aware of the downside to this wonderful 
  facility that men have: they become repressed, they fail in their 
  relationships with women,their conversation is trivial and boorish, they 
  find themselves unable to express their emotional needs, they cannot relate
  to their children, and die lonely and miserable. But you know, what the hell?"
								   Nick Hornby 
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