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From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: 128MB Optical Drives, Syquest, Bernoulli?
Keywords: Optical, Syquest, Bernoulli
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:33:00 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

In article <1992Sep4.205702.29551@rosevax.rosemount.com> aj@lew.rosemount.com (Andy Joe) writes:
>Does anybody have any experiences with the 128MB Optical Drives
>that are available?  How do they compare with the Bernoulli's and Syquest?
>
>I'm curious as to how reliable they are.  I know that the main drive price
>is higher than the other two, but when you add in the price of extra
>disks etc. (the 3.5 inch disk are approx $50), the price/meg seems to be
>comparable.
>
>thanxs.
>
>aj.


As far as I can tell the 128 has settled quite nicely although the 
original company that manufactured them (M.O.S.T. Inc.) has stopped production.
The good news is that M.O.S.T. has been shipping their 256 drive to OEM's
with better specs and I can hardly wait to see how reliable it becomes as
a standard.  I read earlier that someone on the net had a concern regarding
proprietary formatting.  I called the company and talked to an engineer and
he said " Of course its propriatary simply because its the only 256 optical
out there."  However, it does read all standard formats (ISO, Rockridge, etc.)
and can be switched to read 128 meg discs.  It also can reformat existing
128 discs to 256 meg. so ya don't have to go back and buy more media.
If there's enough interest maybe we could boundle our orders together to 
get a better discount.  I am willing to work with a user group to go to
the company (they are local to me) pick up the drives and mail them out in
exchange for a discount on a drive.  Maybe M.O.S.T. would be receptive to
discounting for educators?  I don't work for these guys but I'd like to get
their drive if it does what the specs say.  Has anyone bought one yet? 
Any first hand knowledge of how the drive works?
Inquiring minds want to know........

maurices







		
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ejbehr@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Behr)
Subject: Re: DRAM SIMMs and Installation done inexpensively...
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 05:34:52 GMT
Reply-To: behr@math.ilstu.edu (Eric Behr)
Organization: Central Illinois Surfing Club

CXMY@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMY) writes:
>Do you want to upgrade your Mac's RAM memory ? I have several 256K DRAM
>SIMMs, (Dynamic RAM, Single Inline Memory Modules), that I will sell and
>install in your Macintosh. For example, 4-256K = 1 Megabyte of DRAM for
>$30.00 CDN, plus installation. The SIMMs are 80ns, (nanoseconds). If you
>are interested, please call 933-3106, or write CXMY@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA.

Yep, and stick 16 of 'em 256 SIMMs in a Mac Plus and hear it rattle, baby.

PS. You forgot your area code, which prevented me from expressing serious
interest.

PPS. Anyone interested in 256K SIMMs -- contact State of Illinois, they own
at least 64 MB worth of them, all in my desk drawer...    :-)

-- 
Eric Behr, Illinois State University, Mathematics Department
behr@math.ilstu.edu   or   behr@ilstu.bitnet  (please avoid!)
From: farber@linc.cis.upenn.edu (David Farber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Power Books (especially the 100)
Date: 7 Sep 92 19:58:19 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania



people must understand that pioneers get shot in the back. If
you bought a pb 100 when they came out (about 10 months ago)
you were a pioneer and you get shot in your checkbook back.

apple is no different from any other company and the sooner
people realize that the happier they will end up being.

David Farber; Prof. of CIS and EE, U of Penn, Philadelphia, PA 19104-6389 Tele:
215-898-9508(off); 215-274-8292 (home); FAX: 215-274-8293;  Cellular:  302-740-
1198 "The fundamental principle of science, the definition almost, is this: the
sole test of the validity of any idea is experiment." -- R. P. Feynman
From: jochenw@ikki.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Jochen Wolters)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Brand-New Mac LCII for sale
Date: 11 Sep 92 11:38:49 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen

zhimin@unssun.nevada.edu (Zhimin Chen) writes:

>Software in the computer include MS Word 5.0, Think Pascal 4.0, MS 
>Excel 4.0, SuperPaint 2.0, Adobe Illustrator 3.1, and plenty of utility
>software. 

>Price: $1,600 firm.

  I wonder: does that price include the original documentation (and
user's licenses) of the software listed above? 

-- 
Jochen Wolters       |          jochenw@POOL.informatik.rwth-aachen.de  
--------------******* America, vote Clinton! *******------------------
"You've never seen a picture of 'a picture is worth a thousand words.'
It takes words to express that idea, or any idea."  ---  Michael Swain
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: rpadawer@utkvx2.utk.edu (Padawer, Justin Randall)
Subject: need a pair-o'-phony-ROMs (128)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 18:48:00 GMT

Turn me in to the Apple police or flame me to tears, but
send me email if you have a pair of phony 128 Mac ROMs
sitting on a shelf somewhere you can spare.

Thanks,
Randy Padawer
RPADAWER@UTKVX.UTK.EDU


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Kevin Miller <kmiller@psych.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: Problem with TEAC tape drive
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d1
Organization: Univ. of Illinois
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 19:15:06 GMT

In article <lb21sdINNli9@news.bbn.com> Ian Dowell, idowell@bbn.com writes:
>My TEAC SCSI tape backup unit (from the defunct MacPeak)
>went on the fritz and SCSI probe says the SCSI bus
>isn't terminated when I hook the drive up to my Mac.
>(This happens with and without a SCSI terminator on 
>the unit.)

There have been firmware upgrades to these drives, which can be purchased
directly from TEAC of America (213-726-0303).  The last I knew they were
up to Revision E.
*However*, having gone through this process I have become very leery of
these drives.  We had 3, one of which still works. I have found them to
be of questionable reliability and we don't rely on them any more.
From: dlc@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Dennis Clark)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:45:16 GMT
Subject: Re: PC -> Mac+ mouse conversion?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware

  Please post so the rest of us trying to do the same thing can benefit too.

Thanks,

DLC
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jaesyn@carson.u.washington.edu (Jason Smith)
Subject: Re: RISC6000 based machine
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 06:32:15 GMT

justin@mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan) writes:

>In <2100@deadmin.ucsd.edu> dwargo@cs.ucsd.edu (Dave Wargo) writes:


>>What is the scoop on the  RISC6000 based machine that Apple is comming out with?

>>Is this pie in the sky or is it for real?

>>How soon should this machine be avaiable and how would it stack up
>>to a Quadra 950?

>This is NOT going to be a PowerRISC-based thing.. It's called PowerPC, 
>developed by Apple, IBM and Motorla.. Next-generation stuff, not some lousy
>RS/6000-type garbage (we hope).

Check out the Sept '92 issue of MacUser.  They have a good outline of what to
expect, if a bit sketchy on the technical side.  According to them,, expect the
first PowerMac's, based on the Power601, to be out about Feb 1994, for ~$3000.
Did I mention that RHI that they'll be about 8 times faster than a Quadra 950?
Organization: Senior, Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:48:47 -0400 
From: Eric Andrew Morgan <em31+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Cache Card Sizes

I have a Mac IIci with 8megs of memory and would like to buy an
unaccelerated Cache card, e.g. no PowerCache, etc.  Is there any real
performance difference between the 32k, 64k and 128k cache cards?  What
are some reliable, and CHEAP cache cards?  Thanks in advance.

--Eric


Eric Andrew Morgan
Psychology Department(Cognitive Science), Class of '93
Carnegie Mellon University
Organization: Senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:56:55 -0400 
From: Christopher Bruce Kidwell <ck31+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: APS Power Tools

Can someone send me the current version of APS Power Tools?
I bought a drive from APS about 2 years ago and have version
1.11, but I haven't heard a thing about updates since then.

Chris Kidwell
ck31@andrew.cmu.edu
From: v109lpch@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Troy Waldmiller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Rebuilding Mac Plus power supply
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:19:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	My mac plus is on the fritz as far as the power supply goes.  It is
still the original power supply from a 128K mac and I just had the mother
board upgraded.  I was wondering about any info I can get about who sells 
power supply boards and for how much.  Or if I could send my board in to 
get rebuilt itself or do it your self kits.

     Thanks for any Info

  Troy Waldmiller
 v109lpch@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hardware:16934 comp.sys.mac.programmer:15405
From: flash@austin.lockheed.com (James W. Melton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: LC Sound flakey
Date: 12 Sep 92 06:39:02 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: "Lockheed Austin Division, 6800 Burleson Rd, Austin, TX 78744

I have an LC that I bought from a US Military AV club while in
Germany last year. After being Mac-less for a while, I was thrilled
with my new machine, and really enjoyed the added touches of color.
One of my first purchases was (naturally) a color game. The Mac
performed wonderfully, and all was well with the world except...
sometimes the sound would go out. It just stopped. Sometimes it
would come back by itself; other times I had to wait until the next
time I turned the machine on.

Since the only sound-using application I had was this game, which
was obviously by-passing the ToolBox to increase animation speed
(screen saver would kick in while moving the mouse and banging keys
furiously), I wrote it off as possibly a software bug.

Many months later, I have definitely determined that there is some
sort of hardware problem with this machine. The question is: Is
this problem of erratic sound widespread with the LC (or any newer
Mac), or do I just have a "special" machine. If other people have
experienced this problem, is the problem with the speaker or the
sound driver?

I had my machine open a couple of months ago to install more
memory, but the speaker is so well hidden, I couldn't check the
conections to see if they are loose.

Any responses, please e-mail (so many newsgroups, so little time).
Feel free to post replies of general net interest.

----
-- 
Jim Melton, novice guru
email:      flash@austin.lockheed.com | "So far as we know, our
voice mail: (512) 386-4486            |  computer has never had
fax:        (512) 386-4223            |  an undetected error"
From: an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple Color Printer?
Date: 12 Sep 1992 18:21:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, Ralph.Martin@cm.cf.ac.uk (Ralph Martin) says:

>There's some rumours going round in the UK of Apple being about to
>release one (or more) color printers. This seems to tie in with some
>stuff on the August Developer CD called ColourSync. Anyone out there
>heard any detailed rumours, or even know any facts?
>Thanks. Ralph
>
 
Yes, the rumours are starting to run rampant. According to the E. Hartford
H.U.G.E Apple group who posts their monthly "Vaporware" across the globe,
Apple is planning to release this October a new color printer (no mention
of how many) based on the Canon BJC-20 (I believe) Bubblejet engine which
leads me to believe that they'll be inkjet color printers. Rumours about
an Apple Color Stylewriter have floated around since March and are
now coming to fruitation. 
-- 
         Travis Grundke- Contributing Editor, MacGames Digest
                      an780@cleveland.freenet.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  
    MacGames Digest: The first magazine dedicated to Macintosh Gaming.
From: starta@tosh.UUCP (John Starta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Chip Merchant
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 04:41:19 MST
Reply-To: tosh!starta@enuucp.eas.asu.edu (John Starta)

tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel) writes:

> Thats the kind of testimonial I have heard from many other people.  Thats why
> I bought my personal simms from them as well as Departmental.  But as I said
> earlier there is no getting around the fact that we had 2 or 3 batches of
> bad simms and they were very rude on the phone when i asked about purchase
> orders.

Has Chip Merchants been rude on more than one occasion? I mean everyone 
has a bad day once in a while...

john

-- 
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From: wdarden@nrtc.nrtc.northrop.com (Bill Darden <wdarden>)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: HELP:  Quantum Prodrive 210S on MAC II
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:58:24 GMT
Reply-To: wdarden@nrtc.nrtc.northrop.com (Bill Darden <wdarden>)
Organization: Northrop Research & Technology Center, Palos Verdes, CA

Hi,

I am trying to help my best friend install a new Quantum Prodrive
210S on his MAC II.  He is actually replacing the orginal 40 MB
5-1/4" Quantum that came with the system.  The new drive is jumpered
for Drive 0 (no jumpers on A0, A1 and A2) and Parity Enabled (EP).

Apple's HD formatting program (System 6.08) does not recognize the
new drive as Drive 0 or an working external 60 MB "EasyDrive"
as Drive 7; hence, will not format the new drive.  The third party
formatting software that came with the EasyDrive recognizes the
new drive as Drive 0 and it appears to format it, but there are data
errors when I try to copy between the external drive and the new
internal drive.

I probably have a classic terminating resistor problem, but I
thought I could exchange one Quantum for another without having to
change the terminating resistor configuration.  The other
possibility other than a new drive that is bad is the wrong
formatting software.

I would sincerely appreciate any help or suggestions by replying to
"wdarden@nrtc.northrop.com" or "wdarden" (MCIMail).

Thanks and regards,

BiLL.....

(310) 541-2020
From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: more "deals" on PowerBooks sighted...
Date: 6 Sep 1992 17:41:30 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: dimebox.cs.utexas.edu



	Computer City here in Austin advertises a "Labour Day Clearance"
	sale with the following prices:

		PB100-2/20 w/o floppy drive	$599

		PB140-2/20			$1499

		PB140-4/40			$1649

		PB140-4/80			$1949

	they also have some interesting prices on FullPage and Pivot
	monitors ...

				Cheers,		---Werner

they take credit cards, even give you one of their own, and their
phone number is (512)459-1755, Corporate Orders Fax (5120459-7231


ps: just tell Whole Earth that you expect a price below this... ;-)
-- 
  werner@cs.utexas.edu |  ..!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!werner | werner@UTXVM.bitnet

              "Free Advice and Opinions -- Refunds Available"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jochenw@ikki.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Jochen Wolters)
Subject: Tiny Toons? was: (Re: HEY! READ ME! I'VE GOT MO' RUMOURS, MO' RUMOURS!)
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 11 Sep 92 11:31:32 GMT

an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke) writes:

Yo!

  I'm afraid that my question might be a FAQ -although I couldn't find an
answer to it the Mac FAQ list- but...


>At Ease user interface (previously known as Tiny Toons) 

  what is Tiny Toons. Or At Ease, for that matter? I remember reading that
name somewhere before, but I have no idea what this is. Is At Ease supposed
to replace the Finder or it is a kind of on-top-of-the-finder GUI? 

  Thanx for any info you can provide on this subject!

  Jochen.
-- 
Jochen Wolters       |          jochenw@POOL.informatik.rwth-aachen.de  
--------------******* America, vote Clinton! *******------------------
"You've never seen a picture of 'a picture is worth a thousand words.'
It takes words to express that idea, or any idea."  ---  Michael Swain
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hardware:16760 comp.sys.mac.misc:16263
From: nrz@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: E-Machines Futura SX vs. Radius 24Xp
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:03:49 EDT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University

I'm trying to decide between two 24-bit video cards for a Mac IIci/
Sony 1304 combination.  I have narrowed the search to two candidates: 
E-Machines Futura SX, and Radius 24Xp (both about $500).

Both cards allow on-the-fly resolution switching and provide 24-bit 
color at up to 832 x 624 resolution.  The E-Machines card also has 
1024 x 768 resolution at 8 bit, which seems to make it the more versatile 
card.  The E-Machines card has pan/zoom and virtual screens, and a 16-bit
mode.  I don't know if the Radius card provides any or all of these (the 
literature they sent me is pretty sketchy).

Questions:  Does anyone know if either card is significantly faster?

            Are there other factors I should be considering?

            Are there other cards I should consider?  (I'd like on-the-
            fly resolution switching, which 'rules out' Lapis, etc.)

Please e-mail or post responses.  I will summarize to the net if there's
sufficient interest.  Thanks.

                                        Dean Robinson
                                        nrz@vax5.cit.cornell.edu  - or -
                                        robinson@cpa.tn.cornell.edu
From: mike@wang.com (Mike Sullivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Sound is really blecherous (or I'm an idiot)
Date: 7 Sep 92 23:22:59 GMT
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA

Greetings Mac abusers.  I have a question which I hope someone can answer.
I have loaded a waveTable synth with 512 bytes of sine wave.  Is there any
chance that playing a tone with this synth will produce something at all
aproximating a sine wave.  My experiments thus far have made me think not.
Is there some magic loading that will make the sound output achieve
optimal results.  

The wave I get has a near sawtooth positive side, a small spike just after the
negative going zero transition, and a near sinusoidal negative half.  The
frequency seems to be about right (except on the quadra where it seems a tad
low) but the wave does not look (or sound) like a sine wave.

BTW it's possible that sound is blecherous AND I'm an idiot, but I hope not.

thanks for your assistance.

Mike
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Newsgroups: athena.forsale,mit.bboard,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: wong@athena.mit.edu (David C. Wong)
Subject: Think C 4.0 For Sale
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 07:18:48 GMT

Complete TC 4.0 package.  Includes "Change of Name/Address" card.  Has not
  been upgraded.  Best offer $20 or over.  I pay shipping.
--
         Respectfully submitted by David Wong <wong@athena.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: tinsel@uiuc.edu (Thomas Aaron Insel)
Subject: Re: Apple Press Release - Announcing Performa line of computers
Originator: tai50080@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: tinsel@uiuc.edu
Organization: Illini Mastication Society
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 04:20:18 GMT

srinivas@csa2.lbl.gov (SRINIVAS KRISHNAGOPAL) writes:

> In article <D88-JWA.92Sep15203056@dront.nada.kth.se>, d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon Wtte) writes...
> >> sloderb@iris1.sb.fsu.edu (Mike Sloderbeck) writes:
> >   >>Also, can anyone speculate on whether the 600 could run A/UX?
> >   >No.
> >   Is this "No, nobody can speculate." or "No, A/UX won't run." :)

> >The Performas don't have FPUs -> can't run A/UX. A few drivers would
> >probably also have to be re-written, and since the Performas aren't
> >slanted towards government, that'll probably never happen. Just look
> >at the PowerBook 170; A measly screen driver is all that's needed,
> >and wouldn't it have been cool to have an X11/System7/UNIX laptop?
> >But still no go :-(

Yes, this would be neat, and I'm sure it'd sell well

> 	But, like in the IIsi, an FPU could probably added. I don't know
> about the driver. Can the IIsi run A/UX?

Yep.

> 	Any thoughts about the availability of third-party FPU/cache cards
> for the Performa 600s? (Soon? Never?)

I doubt anyone will come out with a 600-specific performance enhancer, 
because of its market niche, but cards designed for the IIvi/vx (are
those the new Mac IIs?) might be supported on the 600 if the architectures
are similar.
-- 
Thomas Aaron Insel (tinsel@uiuc.edu)
  "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -- Edward R. Murrow
From: bowman@reed.edu (Eric Bowman (bobo))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: WHY can't a PB have more than 8M?
Date: 4 Sep 92 23:20:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Sep4.232004.26425
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

I'm not a hardware type, but it sure seems like someone could make a KILLING
if they could put more than 8M in a powerbook....

Could someone tell me why it's not possible, or if it is who's doing it?

Thanks,
bobo
bowman@reed.edu
George Clinton in '92
Congress No!  Parliament Yes!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: pearson_steven@tandem.com (Steven R. Pearson)
Subject: ?? Apple Desktop Bus Mouse Problem ??
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc.,  Cupertino, CA
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 00:16:14 GMT

A coworker and I have recently experienced similar problems with our
mice.  Just wondering if anyone out there had a similar experience or had
any info regarding it.

Problem:  Sometimes after lifting ones finger(s) off the mouse button,
the system reacts as though it is still depressed.  This despite the reassuring
"click" of the button resuming it's undepressed position.

I called our dealer, and the rep said his Mac at home was behaving similarly,
and his Apple contact tells him they have had several reports, and are looking
into a possible System 7.x software problem.  Well, I tried switching mice, and
viola, the problem moved from my machine to the other machine, so it looks
more like a hardware problem to me.  Interestingly, a quick survey shows that
there are at least 3 different sources for the mice (based on the "Made in xxx"
inscription on the bottom).  Of all the mice among my coworkers, the ones
made in USA and Taiwan appear to work fine.  However, the only two that we
have from Malaysia are both exhibiting the above problem.  I wonder if that
plant has some kind of manufacturing process problem.  I haven't talked to my
sales guy to find out where his mouse is from...

-steve p.  (opinions mine, no warranty, standard disclaimers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware