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Subject: Re: What would you do with the power of the Q ?
From: robertson@physc1.byu.edu
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:29:06 -0600
Distribution: usa,world
Organization: Brigham Young University

In article <1992Aug20.151910.5497@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, mikeh@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (michael p.herlihy) writes:
> 
> 
> 
> (1) No more "Social Issues" scripts until P.Stewart grows his hair back
> 
> (2) Remove the stick that's up J.Frakes butt that makes him walk like
>     like the Tinman from the Wizard_of_Oz
> 
> (3) Make W.Goldberg a permanent cast member
> 
> (4) Return Troi to Betazed to open a free-love clinic
> 
> (5) Give the Big-E shields that won't go done the first
>     someone fires a weapon
> 
> (6) Dump the children off on the first Day-care planet I can find
> 
> (7) Make Minuet real
> 
  (8) Force Dr. Crusher to live with Ferengi, if she ever disobeys a
      direct order from a superior officer ala I Borg (most recent example)
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From: noel@umbc1.umbc.edu
Subject: A silly Top 10 List
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:32:15 GMT

	Well here is the final Top 10 List for "Time's Arrow Month".  Next 
week we bring back the usual assortment of topics.  This is a bit recycled, 
but I think there is enough new material to post, so from the home office in
Arbutus Maryland, its

TOP 10 THINGS FOR AWAY TEAM TO DO IN 1895

10.  Riker--acquire hundreds of pounds of gold and bury it where his home
     will be in Alaska.


9.  Picard--stock up on French wine and caviar

8.  LaForge--disregard the prime directive and help Thomas Edison invent
    the tricorder

7.  Troi--stock up on all that terran chocolate

6.  two words:  earthquake insurance

5.  Riker--invent the condom so there won't be any Riker Juniors in the 20th
    century

4.  Data--Learn comedy from then-child comedian George Burns

3.  Convince Samuel Clemons to stay in his time

2.  Warn Guinan about Borg

and the number one thing for the away team to do in 1895

1.  Get back to their time so O'Brien can leave for Deep Space Nine
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From: kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori)
Subject: Re: TNG Emmy Question
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 02:22:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.144603.6426@hellgate.utah.edu> jwindley%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Jay Windley) writes:
>cchapman@matd.gatech.edu (Charles H. Chapman) writes:
>>I don't know about those three but "The Cost of Living" won two Emmys for
>>Best Makeup and Best Costume Design.  Take that TCoL bashers!

Actually, I've considered the Emmys a celebration of mediocrity for years.
Giving TCoL a nod for "Costume Design" was one of the lesser of their
transgressions -- giving TNG a nod for ANY of its music, and *not* giving
it a nod for acting are far more solid proof, as far as I'm concerned.

>Okay, I normally don't bite at controversial topics, 
 
But us normal folks don't consider this a controversy... (:-)



>I am not an Alexander-basher.  I'm not going to rehash what I said
>here before about Brian Bonsall and his acting abilities (or, as some
>maintain, the lack thereof).  I thought this was his best performance
>to date.  Certainly he's no Sir Lawrence Olivier, but I think he's
>more than adequate.  Okay, enough.

If you're saying you LIKE him or his acting, I can't think of much
to say. I can think of maybe two scenes *total* where he was "adequate." 
Everywhere else, I've found him to be wooden, annoying and pathetic. He 
could squeeze into my bottom 20 list of TNG actors with little trouble.

>If anyone made this episode watchable it was Majel Barrett.  She was
>in rare form.  
    ^^^^

I certainly hope so. I can't imagine why I ever liked her in the first
place. I really can't.

[Jay's list of moments deleted]

I guess I have trouble finding things funny when they center
around characters that I loathe.


>My opinion: It wasn't a terrific episode, but I don't think it
>deserves to be considered among the worse.  

True. All the episodes that I *did* consider the "worst" up to
then looked downright good compared to CoL. I don't think
CoL deserves to be considered among them either.



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  "This season began with a turkey. I'm simply trying to see 
   that it doesn't end that way." -- fictitious Paramount writer

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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Which one is "Cost of Living"?
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 06:53:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.141248.2595@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mikeh@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (michael p.herlihy) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.015623.7095@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> bandy@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (Mike Bandy) writes:
>>It seems that everyone agrees that the Cost of Living episode sucked.  Can
>>someone refresh our memories and briefly describe the plot for that episode?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>	Mike Bandy
>>	Johns Hopkins University / Applied Physics Lab
>>	bandy@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu
>
>
>	THE HIGHER ... THE FEWER

Oh, and don't forget the classic:

"HA!... It is my laughing-hour. HA!... HA!... HA!..."


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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: FTP site for ST:TNGPG??
Date: 2 Sep 92 03:19:47 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <rccarm00.715356856@mik.uky.edu> rccarm00@mik.uky.edu (ron c carman) writes:
<
<   What is the name of the site where Michael Brown's program guide
<can be found.  I've forgotten, and can't find my address book...

ftp.coe.montana.edu
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From: v070p6nd@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Anthos)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Jack Crusher
Keywords: monKEY, turKEY, donKEY, KEYboard
Date: 30 Aug 92 19:22:00 GMT
Organization: SUNY at Beefalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hello Trekkies, Trekkers, and other forms of life,

	Question:

		Is there a ST:TNG episode which explains how Jack Crusher
		died?  If so, could someone direct me to it AND tell me how
		he actually did die?  Some of my friends say he died in a
		shuttle accident, others say he was killed while part of an
		away team (and there is also a division on, if he was on an
		away mission, was Picard there, or on the ship...I know he
		was involved in the whole mess).

Thanx in advance...

Anthos, the Grey Knight, High Preist of Minikar, God of Chaos, Horrible Puns,
                                                  and Extremely Bad Form
================================================================================
Across time and space/ The grey knight cometh/ With dragons to rape/
Madiens to slay/ Castles to sack/ Towns to pillage/ Quarterbacks to plunder

Oh, how I am confused!
===========I wish this was a .sig so I wouldn't have to type all this===========
From: adamsf@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: List of Lists
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:48:51 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Aug27.114042.5968@crash>, brent@crash.cts.com (Brent Turner) writes:
> 
> Shhesh.. okay this is the third attempt at a post! They say third
> times a charm... I certainly hope so...
> 
> ...Anyways, Does anyone know where I can get the lastest copy of the
> Star Trek List of Lists?

When I first joined the net two months ago I think the List of Lists was
posted to r.a.s.current.  I am hoping to see it again since I cannot get
to an ftp site or wherever y'all go and get files.  

The one that I remember was great....everything you every wanted to know
about TOS and TNG



> 
> Thanks.
From: mwiz@mpd.tandem.com (Marc Wiz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Hallmark 1991 Enterprise Ornament
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:18:09 GMT
Organization: Do you really want to know?

In article <0jpyl#a@rpi.edu> mcgead@operators.its.rpi.edu (Darren McGeary) writes:
>>> When my wife and I went to a Hallmark store in Austin to pick up
>>> our ornament I mentioned the $140 figure and was told that in some
>>> circles (I believe non-fandom) the going price was $200!
>>> 
>>> Marc
>>> -- 
>>My Hallmark manager told me basically the same thing.  
>
>  Are we talking about the shuttlecraft ornament that Hallmark is selling
>now?  My wife just got one for me for listed price which was $24.
>Or is there an older one that you guys are talking about?

We're talking about last year's ornament.

Marc

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From: ph111-bx@violet.berkeley.edu (;;;;7202)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Actors' Other Roles [1/1]
Date: 3 Sep 1992 19:00:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu

In article <dalessio.715530650@graphite20> dalessio@rtsg.mot.com
(Mario D'Alessio) writes:
}>Jonathon Frakes
}>-----------------
}>Television:  Star Trek: The Next Generation.
               Hill Street Blues (multi-episode guest appearance)
}>Pictures:    (None Known).
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From: huggins@quip.eecs.umich.edu (James K. Huggins)
Subject: Re: RAS Lives!
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:27:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.125319.842@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>In <3973@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>>In article <BtyEI6.1s2@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> pealbers@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Paul E. Albers) writes:
>><In article <3953@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>><>
>><>*  This newsgroup is no longer in existence.  Please take all ST and ST:TNG
>><>*  discussions to one of the following newsgroups: 
>><>*       rec.arts.startrek.misc              rec.arts.startrek.current   
>><>*       rec.arts.startrek.fandom            rec.arts.startrek.tech    

>><If I can post to it and read from it then it exits.  [...] 

>>Even though it is there, it doesn't mean that you have to use it.  The only
>>way we are going to get this group to go away is to not use it.

>Either that or, gol durn it, someone is just going to have to update that
>darned news software so it handles deleted groups properly...

Actually, the greater problem may be getting system administrators to
accept rmgroups properly.  I've seen remarks in news.groups to the
effect that some admins won't honor an rmgroup unless there's no traffic
in the group.  (Can you say 'Catch-22'?  I knew you could.)

Anyone know how to send an rmgroup?  Perhaps we ought to try again...

-- 
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From: Rannou@info.polymtl.ca (Patrick Rannou)
Subject: Re: What would you do with the power of the Q ?
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal, Canada
	<92Aug23.193759.11748@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 09:30:56 GMT

In article <92Aug23.193759.11748@acs.ucalgary.ca> jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell) writes:


   In article <RANNOU.92Aug22131105@zuse.info.polymtl.ca> Rannou@info.polymtl.ca (Patrick Rannou) writes:
   >Well, here's a SEMI responsible answer:
   >
   >I'd create a parralel earth (or many parallel earths), and do whatever I
   >want with these. Experience. But i'd let the real earth not even know of my
   >existence (even going up to create a facsimile of me to replace myself...
   >which doesn't know anything about Q powers of course...).
   >
   >Also, the "artificial" people, I realize, would really not be people at
   >all. It would be much like a holodeck "a la Minuet".

   Hate to bring this up here (but we're between seasons, hey! :)
   but going back to the age old (okie, maybe 50 year old) Turing
   debate on this, if something is simulated well enough, sure, its
   still a simulation. But if you simulate a mind perfectly, down to
   the quantum levels, isn't it just a legitimately a mind as any
   other? Doesn't it deserve the same treatment the 'real' one that
   you copied it from did?

Sure. I think. Maybe. Well, if it wasn't able to be considered real, why
create it to live in it in the first place?

Maybe it's wrong to use power in such a way. Well, then it's wrong for a
billionnaire to spend a few million dollars on his 10+ luzury homes
everywhere in the world while people are dying because they can't eat
enough. See the pattern?


Pak.
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From: puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com (PuterDude)
Subject: The 'Traveler' in "Matlock"
Organization: None, today. Thank you.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:51:26 GMT

I saw the actor that plays 'The Traveler' (Eric Menyuk) in an episode
of "Matlock" the other night. I don't know what the episode was called, 
but it co-starred David Carradine as a Country-Western singer that was
ordered to Matlock's custody. The character that Eric played was the
band manager. 

P.S. Eric does a terrible c/w accent.  :)

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From: kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: STAR TREK II - The Wrath of Khan
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:14:36 GMT
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <rawdon.715487806@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>
>I find it hard to believe that a training vessel whih has been moored at Earth
>for a while, which has been maintained by Scotty during that time, and which
>he and his cadets prepared so thoroughly for Kirk's inspection that even the
>*consoles weren't dusty* would have needed maintenance.  I find it far more
>likely that they really were at sublight that whole time.
>

Why so?  You can't run the warp engines while docked in orbit. So
after leaving Earth, they run the warp engines, power down, and give
the engineering cadets some diagnostic homework or whatever to do.
That seems to be a general purpose for a training run.

If they were on sublight the whole time, then they were probably still
within the solar system.  If so, then send out another ship ,other than
a training vessel, to Regula 1.  Can't tell me that Enterprise is the only
starship at Earth. Now that would be somewhat unbelievable.


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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: in defense of Q-Pid :)
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:45:16 GMT

In article <BtLJI2.2Kz@acsu.buffalo.edu> v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek) writes:

>..some people have been putting down q-pid as the worst episode...
>
>well, that one happens to be one of my faves, because it has great 
>scenes of picard AS A MAN and not as a Starfleet robot. 

True, for once he was given the opportunity to act outside of his normal
constraints.  From what I've read of Stewart, he prefers the action
episodes to the moral puzzlers.  A swashbuckling episode was probably
something that really appealed to him.  I liked the following exchange:

Sir Guy: "I think you should know that I'm the greatest swordsman in all of Sherwood!"

Picard:  "There's something _you_ should know.  I'm not from Sherwood!"

[skewer!]



>and come on, it 
>has got to be one of the funniest ones ---> worf alone has 3 killer 
>lines, and the banter between vash and picard ("what kind of a plan is 
>that?"  "a very GOOD one, if you'd just HURRY!" or something similar) 
>makes me laugh every time i see it...
>and besides,  Q is in it.

That's no automatic saviour, but still, I liked it.  I thought it was
fun.

>vash is killer... too bad they can't (won't) bring her back...
>
I won't miss her.


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From: adamsf@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Hallmark 1991 Enterprise Ornament
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:50:43 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <2302@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>, mwiz@mpd.tandem.com (Marc Wiz) writes:
> In article <1992Aug24.175738.22276@berlioz.nsc.com> walter@nsc.nsc.com (Walter K. Hurwitz) writes:
>>>First of all, don't get too excited, I have an extra one but am probably
>>>unwilling to sell it.  I have noticed a few people who seem pretty desperate
>>>for one and I am just testing the waters to see what the going price is these
>>>days.  So, for all of you who want one, what would you be willing to pay?
>>
>>I think that the going price is around $100.00 USD.  I've heard it go as low as $95.00
>>
> 
> At the Creation Con that was held in Austin a few weeks ago a dealer
> claimed they were selling at a San Diego convention for $140 U.S.
> 
> When my wife and I went to a Hallmark store in Austin to pick up
> our ornament I mentioned the $140 figure and was told that in some
> circles (I believe non-fandom) the going price was $200!
> 
> Marc
> -- 
My Hallmark manager told me basically the same thing.  
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From: dp66@mc4adm.UWaterloo.ca (Kevin L. Oberle)
Subject: Patrick Stewart's one man "Christmas Carol"?
Summary: Anyone know when in New York?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:30:42 GMT

There was alot of discussion regarding Patrick Stewart's one man
performance of "A Christmas Carol" last December, not to mention
Tim Lynch's review.  I have heard mention that he may be taking
the show to New York this coming winter.

Can anyone out there confirm this yet?  If so, any idea as to
where it will be showing?  And where might one obtain tickets
(if not living in or near NY city)?
 
Thanks,
  Kevin
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From: pealbers@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Paul E. Albers)
Subject: RAS Lives!                  
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:51:41 GMT

In article <3953@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>
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From: eric@banzai.PCC.COM (The Modem Man)
Subject: Re: "IMZADI" (where/which ep was this stated?)
Organization: The People's Computer Company, Williston, VT
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 00:03:56 GMT

hlee@unixg.ubc.ca (Henry Lee) writes:


>and it dawned on me that I distinctly remember Will Riker saying "Imzadi"
>to Deanna in an episode.  I also remembered (Rabeem!) that when I first 
>heard him say it, it sounded like "I'm sorry ..."     :-}
>I also recall that he was saying this to her and there was some kind
>of overall sadness to it all.

The word "Imzadi" was first used in STTNG on the "Encounter at
Farpoint" premier.

When Riker is introduced to Deanna by Picard, we here Deanna
communicate telepathically with Riker.  I don't remember the
exact dialogue, but the word "Imzadi" was definitely said by
Deanna.

The other occurrence is, I believe in the episode called "Haven".
I can't remember which season it's in.  I think it's the second
season.  Deanna is betrothed to the son of an Earth couple that
L'Waxana (sp?) knew.

There is a very touching scene on the holodeck between Riker and
Deanna where Riker comes to grips with the fact that Deanna will
be getting married in a few days.  In that conversation, Riker
calls Deanna his "Imzadi".  The scene is quite emotional is
designed to make the audience feel for both characters in this
situation.

Sorry I can't remember which season...
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From: Michael.Gunderson@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Michael Gunderson)
Subject: Re: Prime Directive
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 08:45:07 GMT

In article <94681@bu.edu> shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich) writes:
>I always wondered how the Federation enforces the Prime Directive. The show

Simple.  The Federation doesn't.  The Prime Directive is a _Starfleet_
regulation; in fact, it's StarFleet General Order One.  In both the old
series and the Next Generation it's been refered to as such.  In fact, in
the Next Generation episode "Half a Life," Lwuxana Troi specifically
states that "it's your Prime Directive, not mine."

So Starfleet enforces its prime directive in the way any para-military
organization enforces its regulations.  The Federation doesn't.



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