From: scott@phlpa.pha.pa.us (Scott Scheingold)
Newsgroups: news.admin,alt.censorship,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
Subject: Re: "Computers graphic when it comes to porn"
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:20:34 GMT
Organization: Ians' Playhouse

In article <1992Jul22.175643.15218@cs.sfu.ca> jamie@cs.sfu.ca (Jamie Andrews) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.221517.8106@phlpa.pha.pa.us> scott@phlpa.pha.pa.us (Scott Scheingold) writes:
>>Here we go. More censorship. This gets to be insane after a while....
>> I agree with the point of not letting children see or read
>>alt.sex.*...
>
>     Why?  Isn't that Censorship too?  Don't children have
>Absolute Freedom of Speech too?  Gee, I guess everyone has a
>point where they draw the line, eh.

Ok. Would you let your seven year old read it? Can a seven year old get into
an adult book store? Do you call not letting a seven year old go into a
adult book store censorship as well? I grew up in an very open family sex
was NOT an issue to hide. We would talk about sex in a very open matter. I
still do not belive that an seven year old can really understand what is
going on. in alt.sex.* or reading penthouse ect. 

My intention is not to draw a line it is to just to point out what the USA
and the laws have put in place. If I had a child I may or may not let
him/her read it. I am not sure as I have not been put in that position.
(I know there is no law about alt.sex.* I am refering to the adult book
store point)



>
>> Correct me if I am wrong but I do belive
>>that those who attend universities are of legal age.
>
>     There's a very bright kid at my university who is about 13
>or 14, and who I believe has computer access.  Based on your
>comment above, I guess it's a good thing that they cut off
>alt.sex.* to undergrads.

Point well taken. The 13 or 14 year old is the exception not the rule.
If this person is attending a university I would feel that they COULD
understand what alt.sex.* was about.  As far as undergrads ar concerned I
feel that they have come to a point that they CAN understand what alt.sex.*
means and decide if they wish to read it or not.

>
>>... If one does not like it don't read it or look at it. Just like TV if
>>you don't like the  content don't watch it. turn it off or change the channel
>...
>
>     Blah blah blah.  Now it's such a mantra that no one even
>has to propose censorship, people just recite it whenever
>anything slightly challenging to their ideas comes up.
>

Say what you wish. I am NOT reciting it is MY view on the subject. I have
seen the type of TV they show in europe and they are much more open with sex
ect. on TV. You would not find the same show on ABC or any other network
other than cable. (Without being cut up to no end) 

I feel that censorship is wrong in all forms EXCEPT when it comes to YOUNG
children. The way I see it you are for children to see and read alt.sex.* so
therefor do you belive that child pornography is ok too? That could be
censorship as well. 


Scott


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