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From: joconnor@evax11.eng.fsu.edu (JAMES P O)
Subject: Re: ACC Predictions 9/5/92
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Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date:  8 SEP 92 13:55:06    

In article <009604FF.680F4080@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU>, mchenry@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU) writes...
>>>Duke at Florida State 
>FSU 48 Duke 21
> 
>Everyone keeps saying that FSU did not dominate this game. Winning
>by 27 seems like domination to me. Any comments from those who attended?

Except for the first touchdown (intercepted pass by Fowler for 90+ 
yards) the game was a real bore. Of course sitting on the 7th row on 
the sideline next to endzone in the student section didn't help!!!!
Some of the major excitement was watching our new scoreboard go on the 
fritz about 5-6 times! Speaking of that F*cking scoreboard: IT SUCKS!
You would think that a million dollar scoreboard (all sponsor money) 
would have a graphics display that would do more than advertise!!
SHEESH!!!

--->->->->->------------G-O----N-O-L-E-S------------------------------------->
James O'Connor                            FSU-VS-CLEMSON
JOCONNOR@EVAX.eng.fsu.edu                 SEPT 12, 1992  7:30PM
FSU/FAMU College-O-Engineering            Tiger Stadium, Clemson
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: BYU - America's Most Hated Team???
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:23:11 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett) wrote:
}
}------ Stolen from Dave Hyde, staff columnist of Ft. Lauderdale, Fla.
}       Sun-Sentinel 9/11/92
}
}What does a team have to do to be No. 1.   UM feels short-sheeted by the
}National Media. 
}
}EAST: Miami wore camouflage and walked out of a social steak-fry with
}      Penn State.  Miami didn't beat PSU, but introduced taunting to the
}      sports dictionary.
}
}WEST: Miami dirty-danced on top of California players, where Erickson
}      said he would bench any players if they continued to " celebrate in
}      an embarrassing manner."  
}
}SOUTH: Miami's demeanor during the 89 Cotton Bowl whipping of Texas ...

Take heart!  Perhaps next year Sports Illustrated will award the Rudest
Team in College Football, the Most Unsportsmanlike Team in College Football,
or the Just Plain Stupidest Team in College Football. ;-)

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
 "There was such speed in her little body, and such lightness in her
    footfall, it is no wonder her brown study astonishes us all."
From: ejohnson@bronte.helios.nd.edu (eric johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: BYU-SDSU Score??
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:47:22 GMT
Reply-To: ejohnson@bronte.helios.nd.edu (eric johnson)
Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame

Anyone have the final score of last night's game? Last I heard it was
45-31 SDSU.
From: fulks@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: BYU questions
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:41:21 MDT
Organization: Utah State University



If I am not mistaken, BYU lost two in a row last year to UCLA and
Penn State.  By my calculation, that is also the last time BYU
PLAYED two teams in a row!
From: JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Schedule Strengths, Again
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:45:00 GMT
Organization: GM Research Labs

In article <BuBsEt.1FC@news.larc.nasa.gov>
ohmann@sab57.larc.nasa.gov (Daring Dale Douglas) writes:
>Add FSU to the list of teams that ALWAYS beat Notre Dame.
>2-0 and still counting.  See ya in '93 and '94.
               ^^^^^^^^
Is that how well they teach counting at FSU?  I'd like to see
you post the years and scores of these 2 victories.  I only
see 1981 in which FSU beat ND 19-13.
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From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Subject: Re: Gupta Power Ratings - 9/9/92
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:06:55 GMT

In article <92253.044926C31801AG@wuvmd.wustl.edu> Bapi Gupta <C31801AG@WUVMD> writes:
> 
> Here are my first college football ratings for the season.  I have
> been extremely busy at work lately and was unable to work out a
> preseason rating or get the games already played in until tonight.
> 

> Washington lost 11 players to the NFL in the Spring draft - Miami
> only lost 6.  This is the main reason for Miami taking over first
> despite Washington being ranked #1 in my 1991 final ratings.
> 
> Bapi
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>  Gupta Power Ratings for college football                   September 9, 1992

Only Big East teams listed below.

> 
>      Team Name                    Points    Team  W-L-T      Opponents W-L-T
> 
>   1. Miami, Florida               322.48   1  0  0  1.000    0   1   0  0.000
>   6. Syracuse                     280.86   1  0  0  1.000    0   0   0  0.000
>  40. Virginia Tech                205.02   1  0  0  1.000    0   0   0  0.000
>  45. Temple                       201.10   1  0  0  1.000    1   0   0  1.000
                                                               ^?         ^^^^^
>  51. Pittsburgh                   189.66   1  0  0  1.000    0   0   0  0.000
>  52. West Virginia                187.07   0  0  1  0.500    0   0   0  0.000
>  72. Boston College               163.70   1  1  0  0.500    0   0   0  0.000
                                                ^?    ^^^^^
>  89. Rutgers                      141.98   0  1  0  0.000    0   1   0  0.000


Okay,  RU is the only conference team with a loss, so put them
on the bottom.  # 89 seems harsh, but so be it.  However, shouldn't
BC be higher than, say, WVU which tied a middle MAC team?  And why is
Temple higher than 4 conference teams for trashing a Div 1AA team?
I've highlighted 2 errors above; are they the reason for these
apparent anomalies?

-- 
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From: jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund)
Subject: Wanted:  Source for all I-A games and stats.
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 14:23:51 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

Can anyone recommend a good publication (weekly?) that prints ALL
I-A scores and stats for a given week??

Thanks in advance!!

-Eric Jaderlund
jade@triton.unm.edu
From: bnoble+@cs.cmu.edu (Brian Noble)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Trojan News
Date: 7 Sep 92 15:38:26 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <Bu6x9y.9rG@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett) writes:
>poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore) writes:
>You have to know how it must feels, for a first time player at Tally, to look
>up into the stands and hear/see that War Chant and Chop.  Miami's 
>Coach Erickson said it takes days to get that Chant out of your head.
>
>Jason

I find that a few Tylenol every four hours takes care of the dull ache
that the War Warble causes quite nicely.  Of course, if you're hungover
while at the game, you're probably out of commission for at least a
week, Tylenol notwithstanding.

Brian
(A Pirate fan who wishes Atlanta hadn't picked that little ditty up,
and hopes someone can catch them in the NL West because I have a strip
for the World Series and would like to actually go...)
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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: aggies, hello???
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:09:24 GMT
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In <1992Sep14.165725.7456@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> crobbins@lonestar.utsa.edu writes:

> I know this will start it,  Aggies are predictible.

  Yeah, we are 3-0, aren't we?  :-)

> Why no aggie woofing???  What happened to the blowout of Tulsa???

  Never woof over an ugly win that should have been a blowout.  It's not
classy.

> Defense- Great              Offense- ????
> 
> I didn't see the game so I'm really not sure why the final score was the
> way it was.  Please, fill me in.

  Well, hell, call me predictable, but:

  Basically, 3 lost fumbles and an interception will nicely schmuck your
offense, which was not all that sterling anyway.  Tulsa got three field
goals on the turnovers that were inside the 30.

  The O is playing Jeckyll and Hyde on every possession.

> BTW-  Won 20 bucks, took Tulsa and the points.
> 
> One more thing-  TEXAS...I've never been so pleased with a TEXAS loss before.

  I have. Depends on the game, I guess. :-)

> GREAT improvement after the loss to jackie u.  More improvement needed though.

  This is true.  The Horns looked a lot better.  I'd have liked them to win.
If they can take OU again, THEN I'll worry.  OU looked sharp against Tech.

> I predict an allout WAR come Thanksgiving Day.

  So what else is new?


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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Subject: Re: Hmmm  Texas to Big 10!!!
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:27:17 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
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Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <1992Sep10.171519.23991@den.mmc.com>, kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers) writes:
>In article <9209101230.AA26206@dseg.ti.com> noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan) writes:
>I think Colorado's closest conference foes are Nebraska and Oklahoma,
>both (Lincoln and Norman) 12 hours away by car.

Kansas State is probably only a 10hr drive to Boulder.  KU would
then only be 11hrs.
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From: jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber)
Subject: Hawks apologize
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:25:31 GMT


Both Hayden Fry and Iowa Hawkeye captian Bret Bielema have apologized to Iowa
State Coach Jim Walden for Bielema's rude remarks to Walden after Saturday's
Iowa-Iowa State game. 

On another matter, Iowa State linebacker Malcolm Goodwin was named Big-8
defensive Player of the Week, for his 15 tackles (12 unassisted - 3 for a
loss) during the Iowa State-Iowa game.

-- 
Joe Huber 
(jbhuber@iastate.edu)        | Capt. James T. Kirk on the 2nd law of thermo: 
Dept. of Mech. Egr.          |  "It's not a hundred percent efficient,
Iowa State University        |   but nothing ever is."
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From: skipb@cwis.unomaha.edu (Martin L. Burrell)
Subject: Re: Nebraska WOOFings!!??
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:16:52 GMT

jade@triton.unm.edu  writes:
> Well here is my first prediction of the year:
> 
>  Washington: 35     Nebraska: 13      (but it wont be that close)
> 
> Look for it to stay close early but Wash will be in control by
> halftime.  Nebraska will have to pass effectivly if they want to
> stay in the game (despite their much touted running game) but I
> dont think they will be able to manage enough to keep up.
> 
> Remeber you heard it here first! ;-)
> 
> -Eric Jaderlund
> jade@triton.unm.edu
>

We'll See.

I don't think Washington will be able to move the ball against the Nebraska 
defense very easily. The Blackshirts are much improved over last year. So I
think 35 points for Washington is a bit optimistic. The Nebraska passing game
could hurt the Huskers, but if Mike Grant is as accurate as he was last
saturday (If his recievers wouldn't have dropped passes early, he would have
had 18 to 20 completions in 23 attempts*) the Washington D will have their 
hands full. They really miss Etman (sp?).

I've been prediction Nebraska by 24 - 17. It will probably be like 24-21, but
my Huskers have to be impressive in this game. ;)

* Note:  That's right! Nebraska *threw* the ball 26 times last week!! 23 by
the starting QB Grant and 1 each for Cornwell, Frazier, and Berringer.
Exciting news in Huskerville!

-- 
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From: JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: lou holtz should be drawn and quartered
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:49:28 GMT
Organization: GM Research Labs

In article <1992Sep13.154409.1095@asuvax.eas.asu.edu>
kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy) writes:
>     Anyway, the next week at home, nearly everyone
>in the stands wore a tie to the game.  From then on,
>Darryl Rogers was a walking dead man.  His contract
>was not renewed.

Come on, Ralph!  You are delusional if you think THAT had anything to do
with Darrell "crooked mouth" Rogers getting the boot.  The numbers of
crimes that his "student-athletes" committed back then, as well as the
dependable losses to U of A, as well as his shitty teams after the Rose
Bowl, were the cause of his demise.
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From: jsnow@moons.sim.es.com (John Snow)
Subject: Re: BYU-SDSU
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:40:21 GMT

wyborsr@wl.com (Russ Wyborski) writes:

>	I thought the game last night was incredibly entertaining. 
>Marshall Faulk deserves every award he gets, and probably a few that
>he won't. My question is why can't any team in the WAC play defense
>or is it that the offenses are that much superior. I enjoy to see
>scoring in games but if I watched that league consistently I may 
>become numbed by the whole thing. Any ideas?

Having watched WAC football for a long time as a BYU fan, the general
opinion I've heard expressed by many coaches and others is that it takes
more raw talent to construct a solid defense than it does to build a
good offense. The WAC schools in general have a harder time recruiting
talent than than "bigger" conferences due to many factors such as media
coverage, campus location, potential bowl appearences, etc. So, the WAC
schools have a harder time building a solid defense and partially compensate
with explosive defenses.

This is the theory that Lavell Edwards used in the 70's when he took
over at BYU. He realized that he would have a very difficult time
recruiting the talent it took to build a first class defense or even a
good running attack so he opted for the passing game which he felt
would give him the ability to compete.

Obviously, once a school like BYU makes a reputation for itself as a premier
passing team, this tends to attract talented QBs and talent at other
positions on the offensive side of the ball. The offense gets stronger
but the defense still struggles to some degree.

I also think that many of the WAC schools were forced to build strong
offenses to compete with BYU. They came to believe that they couldn't shut
down BYU's passing game completely so a strong offense became necessary in
order to compete.

--John

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From: Rob Gordon <rgordon@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: Michigan vs. Notre Dame
Originator: rgordon@cvxcs
Reply-To: rgordon@convex.COM (Rob Gordon)
Organization: CONVEX Colorado Springs, CO
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:58:31 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Sep10.215758.26591@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
:In article <ASH.92Sep10162023@ulysses.mr.ams.com> ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:
:
:You will from me, at least.  I really don't understand why Notre Dame
:fans are bashing Michigan fans, and visa versa.  As a Notre Dame fan,
:I always look forward to the Michigan game because I know it will be
:a hardfought, exciting game against a great opponent.  That's why winning
:it is so sweet, when we do.  When we don't, it's disappointing, but at
:least we have the consolation of having lost to one of the best.  I have
:nothing but respect for Michigan and its program.

As a grad and big Irish fan, I second this. Two teams I don't
mind losing two (well, sorta) are Mich and Penn State. Now, Miami,
that is another story...

:
:By the way, I've never heard any Notre Dame fan seriously claim that
:God cares especially whether the Irish win or not.  I think the "God's
:team" label comes mostly from outside the university, not from inside it.
:Of course, some of you may be consorting with a lower caliber of Notre
:Dame fan than I do . . .

Yea, this is crapped perpetuated by the media and maybe a few older
nuns still wearing full habit.

rob


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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: Faulk, 299 yds rushing vs. BYU
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 18:22:27 GMT
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <1992Sep14.142212.15733@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> lein@base.UUCP (John Leinaweaver,,RRC-4A720,699-2322) writes:
>In article <68124@hydra.gatech.EDU> mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
>>MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu (Spiro the Spiny Goldfish) wrote:
>>
>
>>If your complaint against Marshall Faulk's amazing rushing feats is
>>that he plays in the WAC, what do you have to say about his opening
>>game performance against Southern Cal (you know, the team that waxed
>>Pepsi State last season)?  220 yards and 3 TD's - is that also a 
>>"typical" performance?
>>
>
>IMHO Faulk is a great back but I would like to see him against a top
>10 defense (not a WAC defense that starts to arm tackle mid-way through
>the third Quarter).

How about his 150+ yards against the Miami Hurricanes last year???  Seems to
me they were one of the nations top 10 defenses.  Have you ever thought about
the fact that you talk about the WAC defenses (not including USC, nor
BYU, which may be a WAC team, but was a nationally ranked WAC team) but 
forget that Faulk has the WAC offensive line to block for him???  If he
can gain 200+ yards a game with such regularity with such an undersized 
front line, imagine what he could do at Penn State!!!  He would be rushing
for 300+ yards every week!!!
>
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From: "al sorhaindo" <al.sorhaindo@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: prime time tv sched
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:42:57 EST
Reply-To: "al sorhaindo" <al.sorhaindo@execnet.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Executive Networks Information

 Here is a preliminary schedule of College football games that will
be nationally telecast during prime time. (At least based on EST, in
which all times are given.) More games on Saturday night will be added
by ESPN.

Thursday  Sep 3  Oklahoma at Texas Tech    ESPN   8:00 PM

Saturday  Sep 5  Miami    at Iowa          ABC    8:00 PM

Thursday  Sep 10 San Diego St at BYU       ESPN   8:00 PM

Thursday  Sep 17 Pittsburgh   at Rutgers   ABC    8:00 PM

Thursday  Sep 24 California   at Kansas    ESPN   8:00 PM

Thursday  Oct  1 Florida  at  Miss. State  ESPN   8:00 PM

Thursday  Oct  8 Colorado at  Missouri     ESPN   8:00 PM

Thursday  Oct 29 So. Miss. at E. Carolina  ESPN   8:00 PM

Thursday  Nov 12 Texas A&M at Houston      ESPN   8:00 PM

Thursday  Nov 26 Texas A&M at Texas        ESPN   7:30 PM (Thanksgiving)

Saturday  Nov 28  Notre Dame at USC        ABC    8:00 PM
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From: zuniga@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Ralph Zuniga (FREAC/CAR))
Subject: Re: What is a Boilermaker?
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 00:02:30 GMT

In article <88942@netnews.upenn.edu> rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec) writes:
>In article <192thcINNdr2@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> laura@sdd.hp.com (Laura Mansfield) writes:
>>Like it says in the subject line...
>>What is a Boilermaker?
>
>Quoting from the Purdue CS/EE student survival guide (in a section on
>thie history and traditions of Purdue):
>
>	As the story goes, when other college teams met the
>	Purdue football squad they were in awe of the size of the
>	Purdue players.  Believing that no man of academic
>	ability could be so enormous, rivals were sure that the Purdue
>	team was made up of workers from the old Lafayette Boiler
>	Factory.  Hence, Purdue was the victim of many insulting
>	names,  one of which was "Boilermakers".
>
>	Other tellers of this tale (probably Purdue opponents)
>	state that the team members actually were boilermakers and
>	not students.  Do not believe them.  Purdue, being a famous
>	agricultural school, attracted many farm boys who were typically
>	large, healthy, and powerful.
>
>---Rsk

And losers. (Except for last week.)
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From: atchison@cowardlylion.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison)
Subject: Re: Ohio State attendance/sellouts (was: "Re: Big Ten Review (9-5-92)")
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:10:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.190518.2379@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> juodvalk@quanta.eng.ohio-state.edu (Vincent V. Juodvalkis) writes:
>As far as game attendance... that weekend, and this, are the two biggest
>moving weekends of the year (not counting dorms), and I know several
>people who didn't make the game 'cause they weren't done moving yet.
>Heathens that they are... attendance will pick up for the Big Ten, and
>I would expect in excess of 91,000 for the Bowling Green game.
>
>It will get better...
>

Yep.  BG drew the 2nd largest crowd in Horseshoe history (to Iowa '91). ~ 95K.

GO BUCKS!!!
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