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From: gt4370d@prism.gatech.EDU (Eric Bryan Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Pricing
Date: 25 Jul 92 02:02:27 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Hi folks...
 I am looking at buying an Alesis Quadraverb and an Alesis RA-100 (ref. amp) andI would like to hear experiences you may have had with these. I'm not convinced they are really what I want but the price is about right for the performance. I am not a professional musician, but I still want pretty good gear. I currently run a Korg M1 through a 50 watt per channel home stereo. I have some Infinity speakers from another stereo which I will use with the ref. amp. Give me some feeback. All thoughts and opinions/f

acts will be appreciated. 

Also I have been following the K2000 threads. What is the price of this beast and what are some more of the specs? Thanks.

-- 
Eric B. Davis 
Georgia Institute of Technology, Electrical Engineering
Luck is the meeting of opportunity with preparation.
Internet: gt4370d@prism.gatech.edu
From: JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Drum Machines (was Odd time etc)
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:51:00 GMT


Seems obvious to me that someone who knows nothing about drum machines can
stand to learn anything about drum machines.  Are you really as ignorant as
that query suggests, or do you post like this for effect?

John
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: louie@cbnewse.cb.att.com (louis.m.leciejewski)
Subject: FOR SALE: HAMMOND B3 ORGAN & LESLIE
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: il
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:00:47 GMT




    FOR SALE: HAMMOND B3 ORGAN with LESLIE 910



                EXCELLENT CONDITION

                NEVER BEEN USED OUTSIDE OF THE HOME

                ORIGINAL OWNER

                LESLIE 910 ---- 100 Watt Leslie with Reverb


   Price: $ 3,900

   (read Keyboard Magazine Nov.1991 regarding the B-3's market value)
      
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From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher)
Subject: Re: Ensoniq KS-32
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:24:45 GMT

Peter Uchytil <kentrox!ktxs8!peter@UUNET.UU.NET> writes:

>From what I understand you are correct about a repackaging.  It sure seemed
>like an SQ-232 (the new 32 voice SQ) with a new keyboard.  There were some
>other new buttons, though.  I didn't have a chance to really go over them.
>The board has some nice sounds and the sequncer (I know, why put a sequencer
>in every box) is pretty darn good.  

When Ensoniq is asked..."Why do you put a sequencer in all the gear you
make?"  The answer has been "Because you are getting it for free".  
Ensoniq state that all the development of the hardware/software has been
an ongoing process from the days of the ESQ-1 and thus it wwould be silly
for them "not" to include their sequencer in all keyboards as it has a 
negligable effect on the cost.

The case in point was the issue of the EPS 16 Plus Rack, someone said
wwhy not leave out the sequencer and put that money/space to better use
somewwhere else...A: The sequencer is free stop complaining :-)

After all you don't have to use a sequencer, it's nice to have one there
tho.

Regards Scott.
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From: metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu (metlay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.sys.atari.st,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: FOR SALE: Atari 1040ST Basic system
Summary: computer, monitor, some software
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:20:53 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.synth
Distribution: usa
Organization: Atomic City


A friend is selling his Atari 1040ST to generate tuition money. The machine
is a straight 1040ST with 1 Meg of memory and a color monitor and mouse,
and comes with WordPerfect and CopyIIST software bundled. He's asking $350
firm for the whole package. 

This would be a good starter computer for someone interested in Atari MIDI
applications. If interested, you can Email me or contact the seller directly
at

curtis@mail.loc.gov

Thanks a lot.

--
metlay@  | 
minerva. | "This thing makes the COOLEST SOUNDS!"
phyast.  |                                          --Space Cadet Stimpy
pitt.edu |
From: bise@girtab.usc.edu (Daniel W. Bise)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: REPOST: Voyetra .bXX to standard .BNK?
Date: 24 Jul 1992 11:49:51 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu


I'll try this once more as no one was forthcoming with a reply
(yea or nay) after the last query.

Is it possible to convert Voyetra's tone bank format to the
standard .BNK format (voiced for the MT-32)? If so, is there
a utility available to do this? I've run across several free-
ware bank converting utilities, but nothing that'll do this.
Alas, I don't have enough programming or MIDI savvy to make
my own converter.

Tschues!

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From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: NetJam is famous now! |->
Date: 24 Jul 92 11:43:26 GMT
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu's message of 23 Jul 92 16:36:15 GMT

In article <3604@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu (metlay) writes:

   Craig's comments were cogent and worthwhile; we can
   expect to see a lot more novices on r.m.s seeking enlightenment in the
   coming weeks

Oh. Does this mean we have to behave ourselves?

Nick.
--
  Nick Rothwell, LFCS, Edinburgh | "Say, how many contemporary dancers are
               nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk |     there in this bar?"
CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance | "Dunno; count the Dr. Martens and
     cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk |     divide by two..."
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:12:05 -0400
From:         "Richard L. Riccardi,
              SCSU Data Center" <RICCARDI_R@SCSUC.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Subject:      The K2000 vs. SY99 continued...
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

I've been following this thread intently, since I am looking to upgrade to a
higher end keyboard.  I went to my local dealer to compare the K2000 and the
SY99.  As a base point, I'm looking for acoustic sounds.  Although I someday
might want to get into programming some interesting sounds, most of my
jobs involve covering orchestral parts, etc.  so I need good, solid
acoustic sounds, with 76 keys prefered.

I went in and the salesman said that he'd like to show me one, but he the
two he had gotten in were both defective and had to be shipped back to the
factory.  His comment was that when he could get a machine that worked,
he'd support it.  He did not seem too thrilled by the K2000, mentioning that
he felt it was overrated.  Yes, it could do many things, but it wasn't the
"end-all" machine that everyone was talking about.  For example, the
sequencer was lousy.

He felt that the best out on the market today was the SY99.  You can't go
wrong with the Yamaha name, he said, comparing it to the previously bankrupt
Kurzweil company.  If you wanted sample playback, yes, you could go with
the Emu MPS Plus or even the Korg 01/W FD Pro (for 76 keys), but those
wouldn't touch what you could do with the SY99.

I've dealt with this salesman for years, so I trust his judgement, although
a person's ear is truly the best judge of sound quality.  But, here was
the clincher.  I was calling around for some catalogs of sounds for both
the K2000 and the SY99.  One gentleman I talked to said:

"I really don't want to start rumors about a company, but what have you
heard about the K2000?  I heard it was a great machine, but we haven't
been able to get one that worked right.  We went through the 4 we had and
had to send all of them back because they were defective."

It seems from everyone else on the net that they have boards that are OK,
but I found it a little disconcerting to hear 2 separate instances about
defectiveness.  Are these just isolated cases?

And, in terms of acoustic sounds, which board would give me the most
realistic sounds and the most flexibility to tweak those sounds if necessary?
(especially since I still can't hear the K2000 yet...)

Thanks...

Rick Riccardi
Internet: RICCARDI_R@SCSUC.CTSTATEU.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: smill@polari.online.com
Subject: Re: Stereo sampling on a mono sampler
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 04:15:18 GMT

In article <4528.9207241245@orsun.dcs.leeds.ac.uk> The Brown Bottle <ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK> writes:
>Hi. Thanks to the person who recommened an article in Music Technology about
>stereo sampling/playback on a mono sampler. The article was by Howard Massey,
>and included a very interesting hint that I will pass on to the newsgroup.


	You're welcome...
-- 
Steven M. Miller		"The history of music evolution is
smill@polari.online.com		 not the history of nice guys"
smill@online.com			-- Anthony Braxton
smill%polari@online.com
From: LUIS.ARMANDO.LUIS.THOMAS@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Luis A. Thomas")
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Turtle Beach Info
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:08:51 GMT
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

Hi folks:

A friend of mine needs information (general and specific) about a card from
Turtle Beach which let you do hard disk recording on a PC.
Is there somebody out there who can supply me the information about this
card, such as editing features, PC hardware and software requirements to use
the card, the resolution and sampling rate and everything you think might
help us to make a decision of purchasing this card (price if is't possible)

          Thanks a lot
Please reply to:

         LUIS.ARMANDO.LUIS.THOMAS@office.wang.com
From: metlay@venus.phyast.pitt.edu (metlay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: NetJam is famous now! |->
Summary: Setting a bad example
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:50:09 GMT
Organization: Atomic City

In article <NICK.92Jul24124326@vaila.ed.ac.uk> nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell) writes:
>   expect to see a lot more novices on r.m.s seeking enlightenment in the
>   coming weeks
>
>Oh. Does this mean we have to behave ourselves?

Man, I HOPE not. That'd spoil ALL the fun |->

--
dr. michael metlay          \ 
atomic city                  \ "ZIS ist ze pahrt ov Shprocketz vhen ve TANZ!"
                              \ 
metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu \                                     (dieter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: jtn@ADS.COM (John T. Nelson)
Subject: Followup to my SY99/mega synth searches
Organization: Guest of Booz, Allen & Hamilton, Inc./Advanced Decision Systems
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 17:51:58 GMT

This weekend I paid a return visit to Wave Wankers, that local music
store of mine to check out the new K2000.  To tell you the truth I
wasn't impressed by this one.  I don't know what you folks see in it,
but.... no... I'll hold off on any judgement until I can spend more
signficant time testing it out.

But here's what's really exciting...

I tried out the Korg 01/W Pro and was VERY impressed.  Okay... you can't
download samples into it, but the architecture (such that it is) is
clean and the sounds are superb.  Every patch was clean, clear and punchy.
The built in FX probably go a long way to giving them depth.  These are
the kind of sounds that started me thinking of all kinds of things I
could do with them.

Boy if the 01/W had RAM I could download samples into I'd buy it in a
heartbeat.

Now Yamaha is coming out with the new SY85, a scaled down version of
the SY99.  It's basically an SY99 without the AFM (FM synthesis) part.
That makes the SY85 basically a sample player with back-end FX and a
sequencer + RAM storage for downloading your own samples.

I guess the thing to do is test the K2000, SY85/SY99 and maybe one other
sample player side-by-side with the same sample data and see what comes
out.  Fat chance in a zoo like Wave Wankers, but that would do it.

The Ensoniq SD-1/32 looks good on paper, but I didn't have time to test
drive it.  I did run the Proteus keyboard through its paces and this is
also a very nice keyboard.  No really.  Quite nice patches.  it, like
the 01/W from Korg, does not let you download samples.

That Korg 01/w.... ooooooooooo YEAH!

- John (aka Dark Hacker)
hacker@black-silicon.mclean.va.us
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Barry Sanders)
Subject: Alesis SR-16 FORSALE
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:09:43 GMT

If there is anyone in this group willing to pay $275 for an Alesis SR-16 in nearperfect condition, I have one for sale.  I'm not desperate to sell it, but $275
is cheaper than you're likely to find one new.  I have all original manuals, boxand wall-wart adaptor.  I think I even have the nifty 'Alesis' logo decal they 
put in the box with their gear.  E-mail if you're interested...

PS: I'm looking for a MemoryMoog Plus, TR-808, TR-909, Alesis D4, Roland Octapad    Ensoniq ESQ-M, ART SGE MachII, Quadraverb+, and others, so write me if you
    want to do some trading.

Barry Sanders
bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers,alt.music.progressive
From: bmaraldo@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Commander Brett Maraldo)
Subject: Re: Nash the Slash Rises Again!!! NEW RELEASE
Organization: Unit 36 Research
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 07:40:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.203935.10163@bwdls61.bnr.ca> ACOLES@BNR.CA writes:
>Does anyone know what's happened with F.M.?  a few years back they were going
>write and release a two record set, but that was the last I heard.

	I am not sure when you lost track of FM but here is a quick note of
their where-abouts.  After Nash joined they were doing well - LIVE.  Then
Mike Whaite (sp?) began producing them and tried to turn FM into a pop band -
no go.  This pissed Nash off who left the band.  Butm prior to this Marty
Deller had personal problems with the band and he quite mid-tour in the winter
of 1987; Nash left just after the 'Tonight' album.  
	This left Cam Hawkins and a bunch of guys just filling in time.
Then Cam got married and you had the Spinal Tap thing - band explosion.  Oh,
sure, you hear this and that but basically by 1990 the ceased to exist.  There
are threats that Cam will release a new FM album from 'new' material but we
are lucky these are just threats.  He's too busy hanging drywall.

Brett Maraldo
Plexus Productions
'Where analogue meets digital... and wins!'

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From: rej@bob.sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Skinny Puppy MIDI song files
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:20:26 GMT
Organization: Boredoms Fan Club


markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher) writes:
>rej@bob.sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones) writes:
>> markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher) writes:
>> >	
>> >	Does anyone have any MIDI songfiles for Skinny Puppy? Is there an
>> >archive site for such things? 
>> 
>> Why, sure. The tracks make heavy use of the IGMIDI (Industrial General MIDI)
>> [base sarcasm which the author fondly entertains notions of being
>>  something approaching mildly amusing deleted]
>
>	That's pretty good (but don't give up your day job).

This *is* my day job.

>	I still need these MIDI files. I'd hate to go through
>the trouble of creating them, then finding out someone else has
>better versions.

Well, it was meant to be funny, but there was a point to it which I'll
reiterate in a more pedestrian way: having those MIDI files you "need"
would be WORSE THAN USELESS. There's no possible use for such a thing
which isn't either a plagiarism or an insult to the work of the 
original artist. Listen to the album, make your own damn songs.

It saddens me to see people making requests like yours.
Each one gives me more evidence that the technology in which I see so much
potential for advancing the state of music is in fact being a detriment
to it overall, and that those who conspire to bring about the death of
the heart are winning out over the brave people putting up isolated
bulwarks against the cultural tide.

Betcha didn't know it was such a heavy deal.

-- 
| Randy Jones           |  Don't get me wrong, he's a nice guy,
| rej@bob.sal.wisc.edu  |  I like him just fine.
| 608 259 0311          |  But he's a mouth breather...
From: five@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (skinny puppy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: All following synth trade deal
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:24:59 GMT
Organization: system 6626 BBS, Winnipeg MB

To any following the synth trade deal that I've been involved in, with 
Maurizio Dececco in France, for the last 10 months with:
 
He's finally received the K5m, and everyone is happy.  A little more 
money to be sent his way, and the deal is done.  Thanks to any/all, for 
witnessing this transaction.
 
Five

;--- (skinny puppy) a user of sys6626, running waffle 1.64
;E-mail: five@sys6626.bison.mb.ca
;system 6626: 63 point west drive, winnipeg manitoba canada R3T 5G8
From: mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: I need help with my FZ-1
Date: 31 Jul 92 05:12:58 GMT
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <awl.712536015@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU> awl@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Tony Locke) writes:

>I like my FZ-1, and I know about 3 other people in Sydney who have them and swear by them. It's just to get standard disks for them of samples. I just use mine
>basically for recording drum loops and grooves.

   I hate when people do that.  Find a drummer friend, or learn how to program
a drum machine without sounding like a robot.  If you're going to sample drum
beats and grooves (unless it's a parody of the sampled material), you might as
well sample the whole song... that's the way to get those creative juices
flowing.  Yes, this goes for successful groups like Dee-Lite too.

-- 
_____________________________________________________________________________
| Michael Chen			| From the depths of our most lucid horrors |
|				| spring our fond hopes and pure desires... |
| mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu	| except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92  |
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From: eirikur@ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson)
Subject: Re: SERGE (was: insane ramblings ...)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 06:04:47 GMT


In article <1992Jul20.210729.2269@sal.wisc.edu>, rej@bob.sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones) writes...
>I'm, like, ohmigod, so totally offended. It's the interconnectedness 
>of all things, don't you see? And who could call me mad for wanting a 
>studio full of tiny briefcases? 

Briefcases cannot generate the heat output required of real synthesis.  And,
it's very difficult (without water cooling) for them to dissipate enough power
to dim the lights (upon power-up) beyond the confines of your immediate
neighborhood.

Excuse me while I go power-up the airconditioner.  I can hear my wall-bugs
frying.

Eirikur Hallgrimsson   | "Well, umm, because it's electrical, sort of, and 
eh@ranger.enet.dec.com |  electricity is evil, as you know, and besides,
PATHWORKS for Macintosh|  the little jack for the thing that plugs into the
-----------------------   back broke, and I couldn't fix it."

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From:         "CRI/CD/OS; Rene de Bie" <CRISRB@RULMVS.LEIDENUNIV.NL>
Subject:      Re: question on recording
Comments: To: "Redistribution of rec.music.synth"
              <SYNTH-L%AUVM.bitnet@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU>

Hi, normally when you want to record one track and play back the
other tracks, the playback is done through the record head. That's
why they sync. You can record all 4 tracks at the same time or inde-
pendently.
I'm talking about a TEAC 3440S recorder a used to own. Suppose the
modern stuff works alike.
Greetings,

Rene de Bie - CRI - University Leiden - Holland
Mail   :P.O.Box 9512 - 2300 RA Leiden - The Netherlands
Phone  :+31 71 277028/276921
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: mxd7977@ultb.isc.rit.edu (ELECTRONIC MUSICIAN)
Subject: Best Sequencer for IBM?
Summary: IBM sequencers, which one is the best and affordable
Originator: mxd7977@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:52:04 GMT

I was wondering whether any net people out there would be able to help
me out.  I am looking to purchase a sequencer for an IBM compatible, and
was wondering what might be the best sequencer out on the market today.
To give you a better idea of what I am looking for, these are the types
of features I am looking for.

- Graphical manipulation of MIDI data
- Quantize and Humanizing
- Looping as well as standard track implementation
- Different note displays (Piano roll, event list etc.)
- Real and Step time recording
- Overdubbing
- Real time tempo changing
- Control data filtering (Get rid of 600 pitch bend events)
- An interface similar to EZ-vision for the mac
- The ability to produce some sort of time code

Next I would like to just mention the 'Dream' features I would like to
find:

- Record to hardisk or implement sampled hard disk data as music in
sequence similar to Vision for the MAC.
- Sample editing through sys-ex dump
- Patch editing for most major synths (DX, CZ, MT etc.)
- stripped version for live performance which loads next sequence while
current one plays.

I know that a lot of these things are available on the market, but I
would like to know what you people think the best sequencer out there
is.  I would like to stay between the $150-$250 price range, and I was
hoping that the sequencer wouldn't take up more than 10 megs of disk
space.  Rumor has it that Cakewalk is one of the best sequencers on the
market right now.  Does anyone have any opinions on the matter?

Thanks for your insight.

Regards,
Mark Dochtermann
Electronic Musician

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From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: Live Performance Question
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"Paul D. DeFrain -- aka master guru" <defrain@EN.ECN.PURDUE.EDU> sez:

>Actually,  it works for me.  This is basically what I do.  There are
>some difficulties but it works (most of the time).

And when it doesn't, you can hit rewind and play it again.  I mean, we're
not talking about state machines here.  Usually -- at least not when
we're performing.  Of course, *you'd* probably have a sequence that
"played" some sysex edit commands just do demonstrate your true
gurucity ;-)

Haven't seen you on the list in a while, Paul (or was I just in a fog
the past month or so?)  Good to see you.

Bob
crispen@foxy.boeing.com
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