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From: nsj@Apple.COM (Neal Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: The Scene Sucks.. (Was somethin else)
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:55:54 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <kyB9PB4w165w@cyberden.uucp> moon!cyberden!xorcist@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>nsj@Apple.COM (Neal Johnson) writes:
>
>> >BTW, I enjoyed your videos that were played before the show.  No
>> >cum shots though.
>>
>> Personally, I thought that this video was stupid, really stupid,
>> and pointless. Come on guys, eighth grade is over. It's time
>> to stop snickering over sex. I don't know what the INTENT of this
>> video was but it certainly contributed to the usual male posturing
>> and exploitation of women. Typical, typical... So is industrial
>> music as locked into its gonads as metal?
>> ============================================================================
>> name: Neal Johnson         "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law."
>
>You obviously didn't watch it. (or most of it). 50% of the "figures" being
>exploited were men.
>

So what was the point of this particular piece of magnetized mylar?

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From: andersh@tdb.uu.se (Anders Holmberg)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Music to kill by
Date: 31 Aug 92 09:23:34 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.

moon!cyberden!flesh@well.sf.ca.us writes:
: hoover@aludra.usc.edu (Jay Hoover) writes:
: 
: > Music to kill by......hmm....
: > 
: > Tin Omen (Skinny Puppy)
: > Psalm 69 (Ministry)
: > Anything by Sinead O'Connor
: "Nail" Scraping Feteus
   ^^^^
: "Scatology" Coil
: anything by Frank Sinatra.
: 
: > 
: > 					-- J
: > 

Actually, at the time of the release of "Thaw" back in '88 Jim said that
the record was music to kill your parents by, one side for each. 
I can't remember which side that was appropriate for which killing...

/Anders
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From: mwasson@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Michael Wasson)
Subject: Re: SPK and Dome! (was RELEASE: Recent and Upcoming Album Releases: 92-3)
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:03:33 GMT

>> 1 Sep  r SPK                        (UK) Leichenschrei                    [AC]
>
>Anybody care to review these?

A reissue, this one. An essential document ... before SPK went ambient
and techno-dance and whatever else they've become ... lots of "found"
tapes and weird voices ("The manufacture of napalm is quite simple:
One part gasoline, two parts soap flakes. Do *not* use detergent. Heat
the gasoline using a water bottle; no open flame" ... you get the idea)
and screeching noises and Neubauten-like percussion and breaking glass.
You know, music to kill by .... (oneself or others, I don't know ;-) )
--mike
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done; a circumstance that   |  U of Hawaii        | "It's an industry term."
happily suited our disin-   |     and             | (from My Cousin Vinny)
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From: osiris@athena.mit.edu
Subject: re:  Locust, Abortion, Technician (was re: be sure to tell her SATAN)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: rec.music.industrial
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 13:34:54 GMT

The track names (at least on the CD) are on the disc.  horribly
inconvenient for figuring out which song is which, but makes it much
more difficult to find one song and listen to it over and over (like
"oh, I like that Smells like Teen Spirit song" <repeat play>)

That should be the only way to listen to the Butthole Surfers.  All
the way through.

-marcel
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--+  I would include a disclaimer, but that would imply that my 
--+  employer cared.
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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: help
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:03:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.060835.18223@cs.com> larry@cs.com (Larry Spence) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.155517.43794@dante.uucp> mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones) writes:
>>moon!cyberden!flesh@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>>: I keep hearing about how jesus christ is coming soon. If this is true, 
>>: what are the cities lined up on the tour, and what are the tour dates.

>>They're not announcing the dates ahead of time, because they figure
>>he's got so many fans they can announce each show a week beforehand
>>and still sell out the place.

>He's already done one show in Canada.  He was two hours late, then spent
>most of the show sitting on the edge of the stage looking sullen before he
>finally flipped off the crowd and said "I'm outta here."  They announced
>that he was having "throat problems."  The fundamentalists in the crowd 
>went berserk and destroyed the stadium.  All the other Canadian shows were 
>cancelled the next day.  I don't know about the US.

>His music seems to be nothing but samples off Peter Gabriel's soundtrack for
>that religious movie, so I don't see what all the excitement is about anyway.

Any truth to the rumor he'll get back together with "The Disciples"? And if
he does, who'll replace Judas? I heard he committed suicide just before
their last tour together ended. Details?

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - I'm only doing what the little voices tell me to do. 
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From: s7356911@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (DYLYN)
Subject: Crash Worship info wanted
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:11:00 GMT

	I'm giving up on finding these guys in a store out here (Mass.).
Does anyone have info on mail-order for them?  Even just the name
of their label would help me do a special order. Thanks gobs.
			dylyn

	"Thanks for the american dream,
		To vulgarize and falsify until the bare lies
							shine through."
				Wm. S. Burroughs, `A Thanksgiving Prayer'
 dylyn (aka, d prosser) == S7356911@UCSVAX.UCS.umass.edu
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From: shaun@octel.com (Attacking Deep Structure)
Subject: Re: help with readnews
Organization: Octel Communications Inc., Milpitas Ca.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:38:18 GMT

Al writes:
>I may never aspire to the heights
>of Justin's industrial godliness, let alone his gargantuan intellect and
>rapier-like wit.
 
Insufficient understatement. 
 
Overall, I rate you: 
 
unripe banana/speckled brown/rotweiler on the awrc scale
0X + 0Y + 5Z on the dunG scale    
and two honks and a loud buzz on the "I just made it up scale" scale.

@Man
-- 
shaun@octel.com  ||  "Now is the time on Sprockets when we Lambada!"
              
Laundry: the process of turning perfectly good clothes into lint.
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Subject: fLESH wRECKED(was Re: KILlEd mE?
From: aakhan@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 27 Aug 92 11:38:16 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

In article <1992Aug27.035501.22109@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, bp271@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Matthew N. Sharp) writes:
 

> 		You are really cool!
> 		I am especially fond of your recent slur
> 		of witty, insightful postings insulting
> 		those damn feminists on alt.feminism!!!!
>
> Matthew Neill Sharp

FC9.. yOU mEAN yOU aCTUALLY kNOW aBOUT tHE eXISTANCE oF tHE sAID nEWSGROUP
FC9.. aND tHERE'S sTILL sOME fRAGMENTS oF bANDWIDTH aVAILABLE!!!!!!!!!

FC9.. (sEVERAL hOURS oF aWESTRUCK cONVULSIONS)      
FC9.. WOW!
FC9.. (sEVERAL fURTHER hOURS oF aWESTRUCK cONVULSIONS)      
FC9.. i dONT kNOW wHAT'S rEAL aNYMORE

a fOAMING rETCHED
mOUTH oF a fLESH
cHAMBER9 
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From: andre@avignon.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek)
Subject: Re: Young Gods
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 22:09:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.183527.44008@dante.uucp> mason@dante.uucp (Mason  
Jones) writes:

> In chronological order:
> 
> 	"Young Gods" (CD)
> 	"L'eau Rouge" (CD)
> 	"YG Play Kurt Weill" (CD)
> 	"T.V. Sky" (CD)
> 
> The first two CDs also include material off some singles.  They've
> changed over the years a bit, but are still pretty great.  "TV Sky"
> drags a bit too much for me in some places;.........

I like TV Sky quite a bit. If the original poster likes "Skin Flowers",  
then the rest of the album will not dissappoint. I found it a little  
fresher sounding than "Young Gods". I'm still looking for "L'eau Rouge".  
Is that a full album? I keep seeing this CD of theirs that looks like an  
EP, but can't remember what it's called (unless it is indeed "L'eau  
Rouge").

BTW, I thought they were French...guess they just sing in French, or maybe  
they are French but formed in Switzerland?

AK
From: blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Susane Vega MUST DIE!
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:49:25 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

Just heard a song on a lo-cal college station (WXPN 88.5, Phili PA), by 
Susane Vega.  It sounded like she was singing through Al's mike box, and had 
gituar samples in it.  I think it was called 'Blood Makes Noise', god, by far 
the *worst* tune Ive ever heard.  Actually, it was OK, except for her whiny 
voice, and the lame effects.

Is nothing sacred?

Anyone else hear this tune-o-horror?

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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative
From: tony@ajax.Stanford.EDU (Tony Evans)
Subject: Re: Negativland CDs
Organization: Department of Chemical Engineering, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 22:36:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.214054.3270@samba.oit.unc.edu> Mark.Cornick@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Mark Cornick) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.020804.15136@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders) writes:
>>
>>I hate living nowhere near a decent record store.  I have wanted "10-8
>>Place"  "Points" and the self-titled one for several months now.  I am
>>sick of waiting for my Negativmailorderland catalog to arrive.  Whine,
>>whine, whine.
>>
>As far as I know, the first three albums (the ones you're looking for)
>aren't available on CD. They were issued by Seeland, not SST. I could be
>wrong, but I've never seen any of these three on CD.
>

I have A Big 10-8 Place on CD.  I think they may have been just re-
released.  Funny packing with a bumpersticker and poster and 
wood chips.  Haven't seen the other two though.
-- 
| "Here the snow is grey          | Tony Evans
|  If I were an excitable guy     | tony@chemeng.stanford.edu
|  This would upset me to no end" | 
| 	- The Suburbs             |   "There's no other possibility"
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From: mikes@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Shou-Yung Shum)
Subject: Re: Final Cut
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:08:54 GMT

In article <BtxJzy.GBz@NCoast.ORG> gish@NCoast.ORG (Tyson Chihaya) writes:
>Has anyone heard the Final Cut's recently released debut album? I've
>briefly heard a couple of tracks and it sounded pretty good, and
>it got very good reviews; I was just wondering if anyone had any
>opinions...

what's final cut like?  they're opening for mlwttkk on sept 14 here in
houston.

yours,m
From: gcf@spd.eee.strathclyde.ac.uk (graham Freeland )
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Homophobia? What the fuck... (Was: Moshing? What the fuck...)
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:32:59 GMT
Organization: Signal Processing Division, University of Strathclyde. Glasgow
Originator: gcf@newton

In article <1992Sep1.154336.18601@Cadence.COM> noah@Cadence.COM (Noah Ruiz) writes:
>
>THE POPE WRITES:
>>>Just like an article I read about music style's in the 90's(rolling stone
>>>or something)that had a bunch of gay labels for music.
>>                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>MICHAEL WASSON WRITES:
>>Not that I'm the PC police or anything but just so that when some Queer
>>Nation activist pounds you into the asphalt you don't say I didn't warn
>>you to be more careful about parading your narrow mind in public.
>>
> 
>for your information......we use this fucked-up word for meaning
>stupid,dumb,fucking idiot......do you understand????????
>We by no means do we mean it by what you took it as!!
>I'm so sorry you don't believe in slang words,well get used to
>it cuz we aren't going to change!
>
>(((noah)))

Who are "we" that `you' proclaim to speak for: a group
tending towards zero in significance. No one needs get
used to it because in the big world out there, your
"slang" meaning will hardly be heard in use again.

Fuck off back to the ark, your present ship is sinking.

Graham Freelan.
From: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Severed Heads - Twister EP
Keywords: Twister, Sevcom
Date: 29 Aug 92 12:04:09 GMT
Reply-To: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Organization: The University Of Edinburgh - Department Of Computer Science

In article <1992Aug28.210756.29863@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> barth@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (barth.richards) writes:
>
> It also mentioned something about a PISCATORIAL cassette that they were
> asking people to stop ordering, since the CD was going to be comming out.
> Does anyone have a copy of this tape, and if so, could you tell us what's
> on it?  Is it just the tracks that have been released on the CUISINE CD,
> or is there shitloads of otherwise unobtainable stuff on it, like the
> BLUBBERKNIFE tape?

It's my understanding that there *is* more _Piscatorial_ material in
existence. When Tom first told me about the forthcoming _Twister_ EP it was
to be a couple of mixes of "Twister" plus further previously unreleased
_Piscatorial_ tracks (finishing things off?) and an instrumental piece
Tom'd done recently for a video soundtrack. Quite what happened to turn
this rather neat sounding EP into the mega-mix maxi-single that eventually
appeared I'm not sure, but I suspect Commercial Pressures came into it
somewhere.

--
			Al Crawford - awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk
	  Department Of Computer Science, The University of Edinburgh
   Rm 1410, JCMB, Kings Buildings, Mayfield Rd, EDINBURGH, EH9 3JZ, Scotland
	     Tel: +44 (0) 31 650 5165  Fax: +44 (0) 31 667 7209
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Subject: Re: Music to kill by
Reply-To: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 07:25:52 GMT

In article <kH37PB4w165w@cyberden.uucp>, moon!cyberden!flesh@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>hoover@aludra.usc.edu (Jay Hoover) writes:
>
>> Music to kill by......hmm....
>> 
>> Tin Omen (Skinny Puppy)
>> Psalm 69 (Ministry)
>> Anything by Sinead O'Connor
>"Nail" Scraping Feteus
>"Scatology" Coil
>anything by Frank Sinatra.
>

Music to kill users off the system by, hmmmmm

Minstry - So What 

(when they are in the middle of a 60 page word processing document.)

Kill People - 

Terminal Cheesecake - Kennephant Man (Angels In Pigtails - Earache)
Pitchshifter - Bastardiser (Submit - Earache)

Touche!

--
Red 

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From: dkletter@adobe.com (SUGAR in their vitamins?)
Subject: Re: nm-list hosed? 
Organization: Flying Esophagus Productions
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 16:41:37 GMT

In article <BtM6pp.K54@ecf.toronto.edu> payne@ecf.toronto.edu (PAYNE DENISE JOYCE) writes:
>Not only is it down cause of the hurricane or whatever reason (remember, the
>way Nm List runs, there's a hurricane everyday!), but Greg Earle is gone,
>keeper of the Nm List Archives. And his machine is off/destroyed, or
>whatever.

hmmm... nm-list was run from University of Florida which is in Gainsville,
no? that's too far north of the hurricane. but, if i were mjm, i would have
left the state when they started saying the hurricane would hit Florida and
hard. remember that they knew it was coming because of radar, but they didn't
exactly know where. it ended up pummeling most of the southern tip of 
Florida. it's my guess that people who were smart left and nm just died
because there was no one there to watch it.

in any case, can someone give me Greg Earle's home ph and address? i
would like to keep in touch with him still. (PLEASE, DO NOT post his
ph number address!!! just email that portion to me. i'm sure that he would
not be happy to have it sent all over the net)

hasta.

-- 
Yes.  Beautiful, wonderful nature.  Hear it sing to us: *snap*  Yes.  natURE.
From: kinnema@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mark Kinney, Attorney at Chaos)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: negativland "points"
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:17:39 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <la59bqINNqhr@news.bbn.com>, hagstrop@oberon.mathcs.carleton.edu (Paul Hagstrom) writes:
> In article <BtvCpH.K83@news.cso.uiuc.edu> thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox) writes:
>> Now, I thought I had all but one of Negativland's albums, and it now
>> appears that I had all but at least two, and maybe more.
>> 
>> Here's what I've got:
>> [List Deleted]
>> 
>> What else am I missing?
[...]
> You are missing all of the radio shows, for one thing.. They're all called  
> "Over The Edge" something-or-other.. I'll list what I remember off the top of 
> my head, but I'll probably miss one or two.. I think that there are four all  
> told: the Weatherman, Pastor Dick/JamCon, Dick Vaughn (different from the 
> stuff  
> on Helter Stupid), ... and something I don't recall.

Well, the main reason you can't remember the other one is because
you've named them all, actually.  Pastor Dick and JamCon'84 are
different releases.  The B-side of JamCon was the Dick Goodbody show,
which is obviously also Richard Lyons (aka Pastor Dick Seeland).
-- 
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PhoneNet: (502)745-4246	  (Bowling Green, KY)  | eat the HELL out of it!
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From: valerie@athena.mit.edu (who me?)
Subject: Re: Final Cut
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 00:12:32 GMT

In article <BtxJzy.GBz@NCoast.ORG> gish@NCoast.ORG (Tyson Chihaya) writes:
>Has anyone heard the Final Cut's recently released debut album? I've
>briefly heard a couple of tracks and it sounded pretty good, and
>it got very good reviews; I was just wondering if anyone had any
>opinions...

First of all, I believe it's their second album (I've seen and heard
about one called _Deeper Into The Cut_, but I have yet to actually get
it).  As for the new one, I like it, no terribly new ground covered, but
it's interesting.  I wrote a review for it a while back, but never
posted it (perhaps I will one of these years).  I likened it a bit to
the Machines of Loving Grace for its occasional moments of sheer
catchiness.

-valerie
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Valerie Ohm (valerie@mit.edu)   | my opinions are nothing but a figament
"do i have a real heart?  do i  |     of your overactive imagination
think with an open mind?" curve | R.E.M.?  murmur-request@athena.mit.edu
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From: Daryn.Belden@f99.n121.z1.FidoNet.Org (Daryn Belden)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Tool & Die in Madison
Date: 3 Sep 92 04:54:06 GMT


   Hey, does anyone have any information on the Tool & Die concert coming up in Madison? I saw a flyer for 'em today on a kiosk, but some dipshit tore all the info off the bottom.  Grr.  If you have any info on the location/date/time, PLEASE let me know post haste.  Thanks.

                                        -DSB

P.S. Any Madison-area industrial ( ok, industrial disco for the Throbbing Gristle throwbacks ) fans should check this show out.  These guys are gonna get big soon...


 * Origin: NineJackNine (1:121/99)
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From: djm@progress.COM (Dave McMahon)
Subject: Re: Info on The Overlords requested
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:29:22 GMT

bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Hostetler) writes:

>	Yeah, I've got 'Organic' as well.  I *bought* it after hearing
>'Sun Down' on TechnoClub 2.  Quite frankly, I was majorly disappointed
>in this CD.  'Sun Down' is more Orb-ish and 'Organic' is...  well...

I did the exact same thing... liked Sundown on TechnoTrax-Vol2, and then bought
'Organic' expecting the same. BZZZZZZZZTT!  

The version of Sundown on TT2 is a special Orby/Techno/Ravy mix that, IMHO,
is fantastic.  Organic is poor... very poor.  I haven't been brave enough to
try any other Overlord full length since.

Is all Overlord material like a dancier Mussilini Headkick?
That's all I got out of it.

dave.
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From: mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones)
Subject: Re: help
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 15:55:17 GMT
Organization: Charnel House

moon!cyberden!flesh@well.sf.ca.us writes:
: I keep hearing about how jesus christ is coming soon. If this is true, 
: what are the cities lined up on the tour, and what are the tour dates.

They're not announcing the dates ahead of time, because they figure
he's got so many fans they can announce each show a week beforehand
and still sell out the place.

I did hear that Ministry are opening because so many idiots think
Al's God.


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             P.O. Box 170277, San Francisco 94117-0277 U.S.A.
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From: tracyk@cs.washington.edu (Tracy Kimbrel)
Subject: Re: RE:RE:RE: Re: Re:Re: ok i repent - NOT!
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 18:19:24 GMT

>FC9.. liKE Helios Creed, SteelPoleBathTub, Jesus Lizard, Chrome etc since we 
                                                          ^^^^^^

Is '3rd from the Sun' available in any format?

FC9 flamers:  Give FC9 a break; look at the address.  I went to WSU for a
semester and it warped me for life.  I can only imagine what an extended
stay would do to someone.

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