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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 17 Apr 1992 08:38:23 CDT
From: <U16244@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Frank Miller and Daredevil (was Re: Spider-Man
 <1992Apr15.153449.2082@athena.mit.edu> <12265@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>
 <9204161734.AA11130@bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>

In article <9204161734.AA11130@bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, William R
Thompson <wthomps@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> says:
>BTW, what exactly is Frank Miller working on at the moment?
>I would like to see him return to Daredevil....
>
>--The Rook
>
I'll agree that Frank Miller was one of the greatest Daredevil writers around,
but then, let's take a look at the current crop as well- Ann Nocenti (who I
really liked, especially for the Nasty Boys (original) and Typhoid Mary) and
now D.G. Chichester, I'd say that Frank might be good for an occasional second
story, or maybe the second series that Marvel might try to put out for
Daredevil (rotating writer lineup- Miller and Nocenti, Klaus Janson
doing art for Nocenti, Miller doing his own pencils, writing nice BIG stories
for Daredevil on side continuity).

Also, I think I would be happy if Miller and Breyfogle got together to do
a Daredevil/Batman crossover (think about this one).  I even came up with
a decent plot and a decent first meeting for them.  A cult of devil worshippers
is committing murders around the country (part of a travelling NKOTB-type
band) and they hit both New York City and Gotham.  Bats and DD put two and
two together and go after them.  Daredevil catches up with some of the band's
roadies and manages to slap them around for information ("You say that you
obey the orders of the devil.  Well listen to this particular devil!")
Batman shows up and hears this, notices two roadies bleeding from burst noses
from DD's billyclub, and moves to attack.  On DD's radar sense, he notices
Bats, figures that it's one of the cultists dressed as some winged demon,
and gets in the first shot as Bats comes down in mid-leap.  Bats barely
beats DD (I did this based on a role playing game, best three falls out of
five, Bats wins, but with only one hit left).  Band shows up and they take
him down by sheer numbers.  About to be sacrificed, Daredevil and Bats
manage to recover (in true heroic fashion) and bust loose, taking down
the cult before they can kill again.

Doug.
>
From: jrd@frame.com (James Drew)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: MARVEL: X-force
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:49:13 GMT

Philip Poole (poole@cs.widener.edu) bitches:

>		YOU  DON'T geesh some people.

I do if they ask nicely.

>I think for now just about everyone hates Liefield..Why..because he's
>been on TV.  Maybe..or possibly we are jealous because he  got a job
>and we didn't.

I won't disagree there.  Rob did put in some heavy dedication during the 80's,
in the APA Titan Talk, among other places.  And he managed to get some good
breaks, one of which was a talent for art rather than writing.  In general,
comics writing is done quicker than comics art, which allows a smaller number
of people to provide the words than to provide the art.  (John Byrne is almost
an exception to this rule, doing some 5 pages per day.)  As evidenced from
the textual nature of this forum, most of use who aspire to work in the Comics
Industry, aspire as writers.  There are simply not as many opportuinities.

>I don't see all of the X-men fans complaining when a spoof of the
>X-men are done.

Who's complaining.  X-Farce (Eclipse's, not Marvel's) was adequately done.

>Warlock shape changing into a ship to carry everyone from Thor's domain/area,
>I've forgotten the name, back to earth.

Stop reading the Louise Simonson/Bret Blevins issues (one of the low points of
the run).  And it's called Asgard.

>Hell...why not just have Warlock TRANSFORM into some huge BIG GUN tm
>and blow all of the baddies away....but then I guess he couldn't do
>that.

Of course not.  Good Guys (tm) don't kill Bad Guys (tm).

>Oh yeah...and keep your flames to yourself. I really don't want to
>hear/read them.

Double-standard, eh?

>Most of you people just plain whine to much...Hell...I'll bet half of
>you watch Soap Operas.

On-and-off for 15 years, continuously for 7 (as of May 23, 1992).  And proud
of it.  You got a problem with that, bitch?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                             |     Every time I go to the beach, I have to
Jim Drew                     | smile when I see how ridiculous people look with
jrd@frame.com                | vivid white sunscreen just on their noses.  That
(Furry: Randy Puritan)       | smile is the only way I can keep from laughing
"Innocent, but not naive."   | out loud.  When I went to the nude beach, and
B2h t w- c k s g+(p) rv p    | saw where else that sunscreen goes, I almost
S8/5 g l+ y+ o+ a+ u++- j++  | went into convulsions.
{opinions: mine != frame's}  |        - Marc Lynx, "Once More Into the Briefs,
                             | 				Dear Friend"
From: ekwong@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Eric Waihang Kwong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: EPIC: Sam and Max
Date: 15 Apr 92 04:19:43 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <1992Apr13.041735.10509@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> aoki@hermes.Berkeley.EDU (Paul M. Aoki) writes:

>For the truly anal-retentive fanboy, Sam and Max have also made cameo 
>appearances in several issues of Amazing Heroes, two posters, and
>Eclipse's DIRTY PAIR (Steve Purcell once said he wanted to produce Sam 
>and Max merchandise, so Toren Smith and Adam Warren made a running gag 
>out of it by putting Max's face on all sorts of things -- porn magazines,
>throw pillows, ..).
>-- 
>    Paul M. Aoki   |   aoki@postgres.Berkeley.EDU   |   ...!ucbvax!aoki

Don't forget

*the Steve Purcell interview in _Amazing Heroes_ #178 (April 1990)

*_Gumby's Winter Fun Special_ (Comico) written by Steve Purcell, drawn by
 Art Adams. 

*other obscurities mentioned in the interview (Animax, the Lucasfilm tie-in,
 Pirahna's _Toy Box_)
................................................................................
Eric Wai Hang Kwong
ekwong@copper.denver.colorado.edu

"I'm gonna eat jelly jelly jelly jelly jelly jelly jelly jelly bean...
You're gonna eat cherry cherry cherry cherry cherry cherry cherry cherry drop.."
 				-Shonen Knife
From: JAL137@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: X-Men arcade game
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:48:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92097.114839JAL137
Organization: Penn State University


   In a local arcade, there's a two-screen, six-player video game based on
 the X-Men.  The characters are Cyclops, Collossus (sp?), Wolverine, Storm,
 Nightcrawler, and Dazzler.  Each of them has a "mutant power" that they can
 use a limited number of times (sequentially: Optic blast, Power spark (an
 area effect explosion), Lazer blade (an energy wave), lightning tornado,
 teleportation (zooms randomly around the screen), and a Light explosion
 (ranged area attack).
   The major villian is Magneto with sub-villians being (sequentially) Pyro,
 The Blob, Wendigo, Emma Frost (The White Queen), A Big Sentinel (Master
 Mold?), Juggernaut, Mystique, and then Magneto.  The story begins in a
 generic city, then progresses to Island M, finally ending on Asteroid M.
 The game plot is that Magneto has taken over the world in the 21st century
 and only the X-men can defeat him.
   The only real problem I have with the game is that the major enemy is
 Magneto, but the most frequent grunt enemies are Sentinels (Reavers also
 put in occasional appearances).
   all in all, it's a fun game and I reccommend it highly - the difficulty
 is scaled according to the number of players, so only one person can play
 it and still have a decent chance (I prefer to use Nightcrawler).  Playing
 it gives you a... _unique_ outlook on how it feels to "be" an X-person and
 really gives you an appreciation for the way they use tactics and complement
 each other.
            -Jonathan
From: ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: RAC SPLIT:YES!!!! (was Re: RAC SPLIT:NO!!!)
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:08:06 GMT
Reply-To: ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host)
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC


> Article <1992Apr6.221643.255@cnsvax.uwec.edu> From: breitzsp@cnsvax.uwec.edu

> I swear I have more editor problems than any else on this board!

> I am a D.C. fan.  I don't like the way Marvel writes or the way it runs its
> bussiness.  I buy D.C. and love them.  BUT...that doesn't mean that I don't
> like to hear about Marvels books.  I the slim hope the the editors atMarvel
> let a good book slip through I'd like to hear about it and I'm 
> sure that the good people on this net would tell me.  I believe that the cross
> traffic between companies is one of the best fetures on this board. I don't
> care how big of a MArvel zombie you are, you probably get one of the other
> companies books. Making a split would just be a pain and a complication to 
> deal with.

> With a Solid NO,
> Scotty B

Wrong - if you are interested in both groups you read both groups

I get very tired of adding new character names (including various
mis-spellings) to my Kill file.  It has become unwieldy.
Prefixes do not work for new readers join the newsgroup every day
and they don't follow the guidelines and people respond to
the article without changing or unable to change the title.

This especially occurs with two groups:
The X-{men/factor/babies/force/whatever} and the Sandman fans
with their discussions on the various character in the book.

The Cerberus readers on the other hand are some of the most civilized
posters and almost every article they post has CERBERUS in the title.

With a split at least those who are uninterested in those titles
will have less files to "next" or "kill" since they wont read
that newsgroup.

A Solid Yes. 
A gold time for a CFD would be in June when traffic is low.



-- 
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From: uk02700@nx30.mik.uky.edu (mitchell e french)
Subject: Re: Marvel's OK By Me
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:50:11 GMT
X-Bytes: 

In article <plsjbnh@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)  
writes:
> dethomas@amhux1.amherst.edu (The Human Torch) writes:
> 
> >>> So those are the two main reasons I don't like Marvel, and would  
rather
> >>> read selected independents and selected mature titles from DC.
> >>                                          ^^^^^^
> >> You really believe that, huh?
> >
> >Really believe what? That DC can (and does in my opinion) produce a
> >couple or three good mature titles?
> 
> No that DC's "mature" titles actually contain some sort of genuinely
> mature artistic content.
> 
> --
> Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

	Define "mature artistic content."

Mushroom
From: phillies@wpi.WPI.EDU (George D. Phillies)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: marvel: Powerpax
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:00:48 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute

re: Powerpax (X-Force Annual 1)

Powerpax really does appear to be Julie Power.  The jacket insignia 
are the Power Pack logos, quartered as appropriate.  The flight, 
density increase, and energy blast powers match.  The "bullet" 
combination is more effective than the separate powers were. 
Hair and eye colors, save for one colorist's goof, are correct, face 
is okay.  She does appear to be a bit older mentally, a bit more 
confident of her ability at breaking things, a bit less introspective 
(but this is XForce, which I do *not* read; I'm not into combat).  
She is drawn as being little older than before: "Sam" has trouble 
coping with her having a hero name.  She is about the right age:
she is considerably shorter than the rest of the team, and  
sits in chairs as one expects a child to do.  (Also, she has 
not yet contracted Superheroine Disease, commented on at such great 
length.)  The Pack could trade powers, so her having all powers
is not inconsistent with what went before.  

The name change (Julie -> Francine) could be the well-known early teen 
effect "I've outgrown my baby name."  It could also be a hero with the 
wits to realize that perhaps (given that secret IDs break) both the 
hero and the first-layer private ID should be artifices, so that if 
someone deduces that S*******n is C***k K**t, well, neither of those 
personae were the real person, those were masks, allowing two lives 
to be lived.  (In this case, the world won't link Powerpax with 
Francine Power, and the school doesn't link Francine with Julie.) 

There are few clues on any RetCon.  (Is this her first appearance?) 
She is clearly recently arrived at the school (note her conversation 
with "Mr. Guthrie").  A likely-wrong guess is: 1) her parents still 
can't cope with empowered children, 2) her siblings can't cope with 
her parents not coping..., 3) she has sacrificed herself to protect 
her family (the kids were willing to do this as a group, remember?), the 
sacrifice being (4) "lend me your powers.  I promise it comes out all 
right." having previously arranged 5) a deal with a competent mage 
(Dr. Strange? Clea? Dr. Doom? Someone who'd help a fellow mage in 
over her head, and can forsee which choice works?)  The deal: For 
services rendered, the mage ensures that all previous traces of "Julie 
Powers" are deleted from this continuum, so that parents, siblings, 
and world incorrectly agree that there have always been only three 
Power Children, and none of them have ever known any Kymellan magic.  
Having deleted her previous life, Julie now makes her own way in the 
world.  

George Phillies
phillies@wpi.wpi.edu
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From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: DC: LSH: Editorial Plans for '92
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 02:45:33 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.192548.24298@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> dddawson@lpl.arizona.edu (Doug Dawson) writes:
>[Piles Of Garbage Deleted To Save Bandwidth]
>Oh...my...Gawd.
>Please say it isn't so...

I'm looking at a DC Comics Editorial Presentation 1992 at this very moment.

It's true.

Be very, very, scared.
--
This is a newer version of the memetic .signature infection.  Now that's an
idea.  Copy it into your .signature today!

Ken Arromdee (UUCP: ....!jhunix!arromdee; BITNET: arromdee@jhuvm;
     INTERNET: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)
From: js06+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jason Lee Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: DC: LSH: :SPOILERS : Disposable characters
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:23:19 GMT
Organization: Junior, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

> I think the issue after the issue where Shvaugh becomes a man. 

Excuse me? EXCUSE ME!!!

What in God's name is there justification for this?

I'm really confused.

					J
From: branwen@cerebus.ccc.amdahl.com (Karen Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: The Little Mermaid #4: Submerged in Horror
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:10:17 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <167C8DBB2.MHART00@ricevm1.rice.edu> MHART00@ricevm1.rice.edu (mason hart) writes:
>In article <1992Apr12.225739.1@fnalb.fnal.gov> morrow@fnalb.fnal.gov (I Elmo) w ites:

>>on Disney, but Disney is not giving children anything resembling realistic
>>expectations for their future.  Instead of learning how to love, children are
>>being taught that they will fall in love and live happily ever after.

>It's a FAIRY TALE for God's sake!
>That's what Fairy Tales are
>for -- not to teach us about the real world, but to give us an escape
>into a world that's a little bit better.

Actually, that's not what fairy tales are for. They are stories meant
to teach a lesson. The original versions of fairy tales had brutal endings.
In "The Little Mermaid," when the mermaid became human, walking was like
walking on sharp knives. In "Hansel and Gretel," at the end the evil
stepmother had to wear metal shoes heated to white-hot heat. In "Little
Red Riding Hood," the huntsman cut open the wolf, freed Grandma and Red,
and filled the wolf with hot rocks. The wolf went to a stream to drink
water and cool his stomach, fell in, and drowned. The heroes of the story
may not have died, but they certainly didn't live in a Disney-esque 
"better world." 


--
                                          Karen Williams
                                          branwen@cerebus.ras.amdahl.com
"Don't whine. Warrior women speak in a husky whisper."
  -- Brat Pack #3
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From: stailey@hawkeye.comm.mot.com (Mike Stailey)
Subject: Re: Spider-Man
Reply-To: stailey@hawkeye.comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:16:32 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.203003.4866@wheaton.wheaton.edu>, mcrobe@wheaton.edu (Bryan McRoberts) writes:
 
* 	Spider-Man is the most believable of the comicbook heroes; he
* actually has feelings and struggles with himself.  He is very underestimated
* in his power; in the Secret Wars he took on the X-Men single handed!  He
* isn't overly powerful (like many of the new 'heroes' seem to be) and yet
* he's no one to be trifled with.  In my book, spider-man is number one
* (with wolverine coming in second) - I don't know why no one has mentioned
* him before!  He's so overlooked...


  And so over-exposed!!! Iused to feel the same way as you. The Spidey stories
  of old were real stories. Not the kind of flash that they are putting out
  today. Not to take away anything from JM DeMatteis (sp?)... the "Kraven's 
  Hunt" and "Child Within" storylines were great. But for the most part, the 
  three main books(Amazing, Spectacular, and Web) are just retreading old 
  villains and old stories month after month. 

  Maybe if the Spidey books were more like the Superman books, things would
  improve. Besides that, let's put a limit on the number of guest appearances 
  he can make in other books. Jeez, there isn't a month that goes by that he
  doesn't show up in 4 or 5 books other than his own 4. You know the old saying
  "Too much of a good thing..."

  With this being the 30th anniversary of old web head, maybe a change in
  editorial direction is due. Let's move DeMatteis to the write of Amazing
  and bring in some new writers with fresh ideas for the other books.(Maybe we 
  can get Walt Simonson after he finishes up his work at Dark Horse.)

  --
  Michael                      
  stailey@hawkeye.comm.mot.com     


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From: dnaraghi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dara Naraghi)
Subject: Re: Art Guidelines-Marvel (or any other company)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:36:26 GMT

In article <PHocJB5w164w@netlink.cts.com> dimshftr@netlink.cts.com (Adam Tow) writes:
>
>        Does anyone have any information pertaining to Marvel's 
>guidelines for submitting art? Thanks.

	It's pretty simple, actually.  Write to "Submissions Editor" c/o 
whatever comic company you are interested in, and request a copy of their
artist (or writer, or whatever) submission guidelines.  Make sure to enclose
a Self Addressed, Stamped Envelope (SASE), and in a few weeks, you'll get
all the info you need.  Of course independent publishers might take a while to
get back to you.




-- 
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* Dara Naraghi                       * "Love isn't really blind...just      *
* dnaraghi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu *  selectively nearsighted"--The Hulk  *
*****************************************************************************
From: mkelly@sneezy.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: MUTANT:  Rogue's powers
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:35:16 GMT
Reply-To: mkelly@sneezy.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame


|>  paladin@wpi.WPI.EDU (Ever Shifting Bearlike being...) writes:

	[sorry, wrong author credits -mlk]


|>  Rogue....
|> 	people who are immune... well.. Loki was only partially drained... as
|>    was Mojo... and mephisto.... others that i have seen are wonder man, as he
|>    is an energy being,  and the vision (tho he ain't alive) other than that i
|>    have not seen any others...
|> 


	Has she ever drained Mephisto? In Meph vs. the X-men, I seem to recall
that Meph had tricked her into thinking she was immune to his powers, so she
went around absorbing her teammates "souls" but then Mephisto revealed the scam
and took them from her.

-- 
+               Mike Kelly, Notre Dame Department of Physics                +
+                                                                           +
+ mkelly@happy.helios.nd.edu       If you crumple your money into little    +
+ mkelly@undhe5.hep.nd.edu           balls, it will never stick together.   +
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From: shobaki@chico.cse.ogi.edu (Khaldoun Shobaki)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: MARVEL: New XMEN Cards/randomness?
Keywords: Probabilities?
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:26:47 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute - Computer Science & Engineering

Hi, 
	I recently purchased a box of the new X-men cards, and I thought that
It might be interesting to gather some stats on which cards came in
which packs, and whether you have more chance of getting Holo cards
in certain packs.  Anyway below is a list of my cards, and what color
pack they were in.  I listed them in numerical order, not order they were
packed in, although I recommend charting them that way now.

Anyway, I thought it would be cool if everyone who has time to could send
me a listing of the cards you got in your box/packs. It would be great if
you have it broken down like I do, but if not its ok.  If I get enough(any)
response Ill post a summary later.

-kal

ps I realize its anal-retentive, but it seems like it may be quasi-useful.
pps I think someone else proposed this idea earlier, tho I cant be sure.


Turquoise			Purple
---------			-------
17,29,37,58,72,95		6,13,46,65,73,99
XH-1,1,16,41,62,86		7,19,27,68,82,89
XH-4,10,15,50,69,85		28,35,46,56,73,96
2,11,25,59,61,91		3,17,29,58,64,95
25,40,49,59,76,90		1,16,30,60,62,94
7,19,47,68,77,89		3,34,43,64,79,87
18,28,35,56,66,96		2,11,42,61,91,97 - note same as last T set
24,38,47,57,77,92		10,15,69,81,85 *
5,18,45,66,78,88		12,24,38,57,63,92
XH-5,21,32,51,80,81		5,36,45,55,78,88
22,34,43,53,79,87		5,18,28,66,88,96
2,31,42,61,75,97		14,22,34,53,76,100
4,12,24,63,92,98		10,39,50,69,71,85
23,36,45,55,78,93		9,20,26,52,70,83
20,26,31,52,75,83		28,35,46,56,73,96
4,33,44,54,74,98		8,14,48,67,84,100
6,13,23,65,93,99		21,32,41,51,80,86
2,11,42,61,91,97		9,40,49,70,76,90


*I only got 5 cards in this pack....
From: rschwabe@ravel.udel.edu (Robert Josep Schwabe)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Nightwing and Starfire (Spoilers)
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:25:44 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

Come on now!  Don't dare tell me that this is a suprise to anyone who has '
read the Titans since the begining of the Titans Hunt storyline began (unless
you are one of those who doesn't read the letters page?).  Peterson said in the
first one that "some will die, some will leave, some will get marri OOPS Maybe
I shouldn't tell you everything ...." (Not exactly but the jist is there).  Now
the word is obviuously married.  There are two possible couple that could've 
gotten married: Kory/Dick or Vic/Sarah.  Now since Vic is encased in metal and
has no brain, it is obvious that Dick and Starfire are going to get married.

God where's your brains?

Robert J. Schwabe
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