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From: elandal@archtwr.tower.nullnet.fi (Ismo Peltonen)
Subject: Looking for FAX software
Organization: Chambers of the Archmage
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 13:34:13 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

I'm looking for MS-DOS fax software to be used with Supra v32bis
faxmodem. I have one in bbs use, and would like to be able to send and
receive faxes (I can now with the soft that came with Supra, but I have
to close BBS for the time).

It has to be

* command line oriented. No TSR, no menu driven things. I have to be
  able to call the fax receive (send also, if possible) soft from a
  batch file.
* able to jump on existing carrier. I don't want any standalone
  software. It will be used with FrontDoor, and FroDo will answer the
  phone, not the fax soft.

It would be good, if it would

+ create a log file of it's activities.
+ exit with errorlevel that spcifies the last session result.

Any ideas are appreciated, be it PD, shareware, or commercial software.
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
From: jhpb@sarto.budd-lake.nj.us (Joseph H. Buehler)
Subject: Re: HELP!  Netfax 3.2 on SVR3.2
Organization: none
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 04:32:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.160614.23390@meaddata.com> sdw@meaddata.com (Stephen Williams) writes:

   I've ported Netfax3.2 (compiled), but haven't had time to
   install/test.

   I have ISC 3.2 Rel. 3.  I also have access to Esix 3.2.

   I'm incorporating incoming fax with dialin, bbs, outgoing fax/data,
   ppp, etc.  A whole turn-key system for Local Internet Gateways (LIG's).

   I have a Zyxel 1496E, .12c rom.

Let us know when you get it working.  Looks to me like I'm going to
have to buy a DOS or windows FAX package and put a serial line
analyzer on the beast, to figure out some of the missing pieces in the
netfax/ZyXEL puzzle.

Who knows?  By the time I get around to that, Class II may be
approved, and ZyXEL may have it implemented, and life may be a lot
easier for UNIX fax software!
From: tyen@cs.utexas.edu (Anthony Yen)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Re: What is Class1/Class2?
Date: 10 Sep 1992 16:15:21 -0500
Organization: Coffee R Us
NNTP-Posting-Host: ai.cs.utexas.edu


There was some discussion in this group a while ago about searching
for software that converts FAX documents between PCX/DCX and back,
with some nice HP PCL 5 emulation thrown in.  Intel seems to be the
only ones able to do that right now (DOSfax Pro, which I just ordered,
doesn't sound like it does PCL 5).

At the time, I replied that I found that there appears to be code in
Intel's software that checked for the presence of a SatisFAXtion
board, making unsuitable for use with other modems.  I lied.  After
quizzing some Intel techs, I found out that the software was actually
looking for the "1,2" return code from an AT command (forgot which,
exactly, at the moment) that queries for Class 1 or Class 2
compatibility.  The SatisFAXtion apparently requires Class 2, which my
Megahertz 96/96 FAX/modem does't support (although Megahertz hints
that this may show up in their V.42bis modem coming out Real Soon
Now).  So, if anyone out there has been able to get the Intel software
to run with their FAX/modem, I'd be interested in hearing about it,
since they *do* sell it separately (they just don't mention that it
should work with any other Class 2-compatible FAX/modem, only that it
is recommended for their SatisFAXtion 100 model).


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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: wlanders@nexus.yorku.ca (W L Anderson)
Subject: Class 1 Fax Docs
Summary: where can I get them?
Organization: York University, CS Dept. Toronto
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:59:34 GMT

I'm looking for some documentation on the Class 1 Fax standard.  I know that
I'm looking for ANSI/CCITT document EIA/TIA-578.  Does anybody know where I
can purchase a copy from?  I'd prefer a source in Canada, if one exists.

Tom Hayko
wlanders@nexus.yorku.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.annouce,comp.dcom.fax
From: mshiels@TMSoftware.Ca (Michael A. Shiels)
Subject: Fax/Modems using the AT&T Chipsets
Organization: MaS Network Software and Consulting
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 10:34:04 GMT


I have found fax/modems with the Sierra, Rockwell, Exar and Yamaha chips.
Has anyone found any fax/modems using the AT&T chipset?  We are trying
to support as many chipsets as we can in our class2 software and would
love to know of anyone using AT&T or any other chipsets.  Thanx.

MaS
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Michael A. Shiels                           | mshiels@masnet.uucp
MaS Network Software and Consulting         | mshiels@tmsoftware.ca
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush)
Subject: [public] sw for SatisFAXtion/400e [on Xenix]
Organization: Pacific Systems Group, Portland Oregon, US
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 04:01:46 GMT

I have an Intel SatisFAXtion/400e, which is Class-1.  Although it could go
on a Sun, I would prefer to put it on a Xenix/386 host.

Netfax 3.2 (transit.ai.mit.edu:~/pub/systems/...) seems to be for Class-2,
which is interesting as I did not think there was such a standard this week.
As the modem is a Class-1, I presume that this software is inappropriate.
Were it appropriate for the modem, we might get serious about hacking it for
Xenix.

We would prefer publicly available software, as we will likely wish to do a
bit of hacking.  So, where am I more than usually confused, and what do folk
suggest?  Thanks.

randy
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
From: andyr@wizzy.com (Andy Rabagliati)
Subject: Re: replacement for uugetty? [was: Re: HELP! Netfax 3.2 on SVR3.2]
Organization: W. Z. I.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 04:20:44 GMT

In article <BuKzE9.G0D@hico2.westmark.com> query@hico2.westmark.com writes:
>
>Assuming you want to use as few phone lines as possible,
>and you want people with regular faxes to call your system,
>wouldn't you need a smart replacement for uugetty to route
>the connection to the appropriate service?
>

Yes.

[uu]getty is a login sort of thing though. My uugetty (IRIX] has two scripts,
one to prepare the modem, and the other when it chatters. So I listen for RING,
type ATA, etc, because I can.

I could perhaps extend this to type ATA, then switch on CONNECT or +FCON (or
however it works) to run either login or some fax daemon.

I seem to remember that some uucico programs (not mine) have a daemon mode,
where they 'own' a port, and handle all transactions including picking up the
phone. I presume this is for systems that don't have smart uugettys.

Maybe it is a variant of this that is needed - something that permanently hangs
onto the port. Perhaps a signal could be sent to it to ask it to step aside for
cu, or whatever.

>
>I don't know how netfax handles this problem, if it does.

I don't think it does.

Cheers,  Andy.
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andyr@wizzy.com  Andy Rabagliati, RR1 Box 33, Wyalusing, PA 18853 (717)746-7780
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
From: pac@lightning.xtel.co.uk (Peter Cowen)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Difference between class 2 and class 2
Date: 14 Sep 92 09:37:30 GMT
Organization: X-Tel Services Ltd.

Hi,
	There's alot of machines out there that currently claim to support class
2. However class 2 as such isn't out till autumn and these machines are in fact
supporting an earlier draft version of class 2.
Can someone enlighten me as to the differences between the draft class 2 and the
real class 2 ?
I'm enquiring as I'm about embark on writing some software for class 2 faxes and
I need to know if I code for the machines running on draft class 2, will there be
much difference to code when I upgrade to the standard class 2.

Thanks for any replies,
	Peter

P.S. Does anyone know if the makers of the draft class 2 machines are bothered
about upgrading to the standard class 2 ? 

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				University Park,
				Nottingham NG7 2RD,
				United Kingdom
				
				Telephone: +602 412648
				Facsimile: +602 790278
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From: n.margetic@ucl.ac.uk (Nino Margetic)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Re: Difference between class 2 and class 2
Date: 14 Sep 92 11:59:05 GMT
Reply-To: nino@mph.sm.ucl.ac.uk (Nino Margetic)
Organization: University College London

In <1992Sep14.093730.9775@cs.nott.ac.uk> pac@lightning.xtel.co.uk (Peter Cowen) writes:

>P.S. Does anyone know if the makers of the draft class 2 machines are bothered
>about upgrading to the standard class 2 ? 

*** Don't know for others, but support guy from MegaHertz Co. told me
I can send my fax/modem to them for an upgrade, since the ROMs are surface
mounted, when and if the new ROM (conformant to *real* class2) becomes 
available.

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Earn/Bitnet/Internet: n.margetic@ucl.ac.uk  \    University College London, UK
Bang: ...!mcvax!uknet!ucl!n.margetic         \   +44 71 387 9300 /x 53 13
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: oliver@cyklop.nada.kth.se (Oliver Trepte)
Subject: Wanted: Sendfax for Hayes modem
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:30:42 GMT

I have tried to write a send fax utility for a Hayes modem (not Class 2)
following the session outlined in an article a few weeks ago. I have
managed to get it to work up to the point where I want to send data using
CTS/RTS flow control. I can only send a few bytes before the remote fax
stops the flow and after a time out sends an RTN. The data file I used
was generated with ppmtog3. Does anyone know what to do, or does anyone
have a working send fax (or receive fax) program for a Hayes modem?
Any help would be appreciated!

	Oliver
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.fax:1645 comp.sys.sun.admin:6203 comp.sys.sun.apps:1854
From: ramsey@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Ed Ramsey)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: NEED RECOMMENDATIONS ON SUN FAX AND SCANNER SOFTWARE/HARDWARE
Keywords: fax scanner sun sparc help
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:32:07 GMT
Followup-To: comp.dcom.fax
Organization: Center for Environmental and Regulatory Information Systems, Purdue University


I need recommendations on fax and scanner software and hardware
systems for use on a Sun SPARCstation 2.

I have been asked to propose an integrated data collection /
dissemination system using fax and scanner technology on a Sun
SPARCstation 2 system.

We will receive data via paper-mail, e-mail, fax, and on disks which
we will organize and store in some common format (if possible).  This
information will contain mostly text with a couple of simple line
drawings of laboratory apparatus or graphs. This
information will be retrieved via paper-mail, e-mail, or fax, or
possibly viewed on-screen.

We would also like to send e-mail to a mailing list and have the mail
sent electronically to those we have e-mail addresses for, by fax for
those whom we have fax numbers but no e-mail address, and by
paper-mail for the rest.

Our staff has shell script, awk, and perl experience and would
be able to write whatever filters, etc.. are needed to tie things
together, as long as the fax and scanning software/hardware had
command line interfaces.

I need recommendations on FAX and scanner hardware and software
we should consider.  What have you had good experience with? What did
you buy? How has it worked?  What do you recommend for my application?

Thanks for your help; I will summarize responses.

-Ed

-- 
Ed Ramsey ramsey@ceris.purdue.edu 317/494-0442 FAX/494-9727
CERIS (Center for Environmental and Regulatory Information Systems)
Network Services Manager/UNIX Systems Administrator
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.cell-relay
From: robelr@ucs.indiana.edu (Allen Robel)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.cell-relay
Subject: cell-relay archive host downtime
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:54:45 GMT
Reply-To: robelr@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: Indiana University

Hi,

mythos.ucs.indiana.edu, an archive and bibliography ftp
host for this list, is going down for an OS upgrade tonight
at 5pm EST.  If all goes well it'll be back up around 8pm.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

regards,

Allen Robel                      robelr@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu
University Computing Services    ROBELR@IUJADE.BITNET
Network Research & Planning      voice: (812)855-7171
Indiana University               FAX:   (812)855-8299
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.cell-relay
From: bantha.decnet.lockheed.com!young
Subject: Value Added Nets
Reply-To: young@bantha.decnet.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 16:13:34 GMT

Cell relay deployment in the wiring closet of small businesses seems to
require some four conditions. 

1) Preserve his 10Base-T adapter card set.

  This can be as simple as collecting a group of cells and trans-shipping 
through 10Base-T to the desktop.

2) Provide a switching hub at least as inexpensive as existing
ethernet switchers.  No problem here, as cell-relay was designed for 
simple low cost switching.

3) Supply a plain old telephone interface (POTs) for all the 
computer-telephone applications.

4) Involve a pro-active value added network provider which integrates
industry specific distributed solutions.

The fourth is the most important, since the appeal of cell-relay is its 
LAN/WAN integration of distributed applications. The small business needs 
the help of the value added networks to compete against the larger 
corporations which can afford large private networks.  Does anyone know
what value added networks are doing to provide some cell-relay integration?
What is the Internet official position?

Matt Young
Lockheed
(408) 756-6789
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.cell-relay
From: bantha.decnet.lockheed.com!young
Subject: Another Application
Reply-To: young@bantha.decnet.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 15:47:49 GMT

OK lets try this application;  A travel reservation service using the 
cell relay value added networks.  

In this case travel agents who want to set up a travel tour to, say, 
Central and Eastern Europe can send an exploratory wave to that region
and visit a desktop computer in every hotel in the area, examine the
hotel description (using some common data base application), returning 
any relevant info back to the travel agent setting up the tour.  

Here is how it works:  

The service uses a single VCI leased from the local value added net,
valid over that whole region, and which spans all the hotels which are 
likely targets of for travel tours. Now at each hotel exists a software 
package which runs on some low cost, cheap, clone-able PC, and provides a 
common software format for hotel owners to describe the facility and local 
amenities.

The service user prepares an exploratory wave, sends it (via TCP/IP) to 
the local wave launching point, lets it loose into the hotel spanning net.  
The wave collects data back to the launching point, where it is transferred
back to the agent.

Some few minutes later come back a series of digital brochures from a
desktop in each hotel in the region.  

No hassle, no muss, no management, no extra layers.
Matt Young
Lockheed
(408) 756-6789
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.cell-relay
From: bantha.decnet.lockheed.com!young
Subject: Legalities
Reply-To: young@bantha.decnet.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 13:12:17 GMT

Scenario:

Assume that some hub vendor has met the user requirements, and users
are now buying these simple cell relay hubs and installing them in
their closets.  Along comes a young aggressive value added network
company and builds a value added network using exactly the same equipment
that the user is buying.  Now the user has seamless network connectivity
and all the third party applications which run in his shop also run over
the value added network.

Among these applications are voice messaging, desktop controlled 
conferencing, voice/text documents, remote "touch tone" access, and
even plain old telephone pass through.

Legal question:

Cell relay carries all forms of traffic, but the VAN does nothing
special with regard to voice, the VAN simply allows  user applications
to operate over his multi-service network.

Is the VAN violating any law? 
Matt Young
Lockheed
(408) 756-6789
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.cell-relay
From: george@hal (George Marshall)
Subject: Re: ATM Ref.
Organization: ADAPTIVE Corporation
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 02:14:36 GMT

>Could you please post me some references to read to start with!
>Or is there any ftp site from where I can ger some material ?

There are now many people on the internet with a good knowledge of ATM,
but since you asked, here's a few pointers:

Book: This one is pretty good; it's both recent and readable:
Martin de Prycker, "ASYNCHRONOUS TRANSFER MODE; Solution for Broadband ISDN"
Ellis Horwood, New York, 1991, ISBN 0-13-053513-3

Articles:
Sep (Oct?) 1991 Data Communications has a good trade-journal article on
ATM, it's the cover article, written by John McQuillan.

Further reading:  
Check out the ATM/Cell relay/et al bibliography maintained by our 
cell-relay newsgroup host, Allen Robel (robelr@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu), 
at mythos.ucs.indiana.edu in pub/cell-relay/bib.  

>Also do you make any chips?

Adaptive designed an ATM/AAL chipset for use in equipment (computer,
workstation, router, etc) which connects to an ATM network; that
chipset is now licensed to two merchant chip manufacturers, TranSwitch
and National Semiconductor.  If anyone needs contact info for these
chip guys, or wants further info on the chipset, please contact me (not
on this newsgroup, in the interest of minimizing commercial traffic!).
From: uucp@usdoof.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (uucp administrative login)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.cell-relay
Subject: Another Application
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:47:49 GMT
Reply-To: young@bantha.decnet.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California

OK lets try this application;  A travel reservation service using the 
cell relay value added networks.  

In this case travel agents who want to set up a travel tour to, say, 
Central and Eastern Europe can send an exploratory wave to that region
and visit a desktop computer in every hotel in the area, examine the
hotel description (using some common data base application), returning 
any relevant info back to the travel agent setting up the tour.  

Here is how it works:  

The service uses a single VCI leased from the local value added net,
valid over that whole region, and which spans all the hotels which are 
likely targets of for travel tours. Now at each hotel exists a software 
package which runs on some low cost, cheap, clone-able PC, and provides a 
common software format for hotel owners to describe the facility and local 
amenities.

The service user prepares an exploratory wave, sends it (via TCP/IP) to 
the local wave launching point, lets it loose into the hotel spanning net.  
The wave collects data back to the launching point, where it is transferred
back to the agent.

Some few minutes later come back a series of digital brochures from a
desktop in each hotel in the region.  

No hassle, no muss, no management, no extra layers.
Matt Young
Lockheed
(408) 756-6789
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.cell-relay
From: bharath@iti.gov.sg (Bharath Narayanan)
Subject: Re: ATM Ref.
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 05:25:48 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

Dear Mr George:
Thanks for the posting. I am interested in obtaining the details of the
Chips you guys have designed.Please let me know if you have more info

Regarding the de Prycker's book , I have purchased one already.Thanks for
that too.

IF you can send me some data specs/ sample purchase procedures please send
more info.

I aslo heard that Transwitch had also designed some chips and you guys had 
implemented some ATM Lan switches.Correct me if I am wrong. 

Also one of my colleague may be over there (in USA..) in Oct 2-3 week, so
we can think about arranging a meeting. 

Thank you for your time and co-operation.

Regards,
Bharath Narayanan.

bharath@iti.gov.sg

Bharath   
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY INSTITUTE
National Computer Board
71, Science Park Drive,
Singapore 0511

Tel: 65-7720582
Fax: 65-7795966.


Newsgroups: comp.dcom.cell-relay
From: myoung@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Subject: Reviving the Router Thread
Reply-To: myoung@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 12:36:35 GMT


Consider the following implementation of a Multiprotocol router
installed over the cell relay network

Assume again that some low cost clone-able cell relay hubs are being 
deployed user wide, having the characteristic that the line
card format is well known, publicly defined, and supported by a
third party industry.

A router software vendor decides to deploy a distributed multi-protocol
router for user networks, which adds onto the user's existing 
cell relay network.  The plan is to put the router software in add-on 
processor cards to be placed strategically in various nodes, as desired 
by the user.

Each router card essentially accepts virtual path data across the
line card bus, and emits virtual path data over the same bus. (The
hub system puts all cell relay functions  on a switching motherboard).  
The router processors have no external connection, being simply embedded
processors.

The job of the router cards are:

1) Search out seek all other router cards within the network, building
a directed graph which allows it to be addressed by a single VCI globally
known to all other router cards.

2) Build new path to each of the directed graphs already in operation
by the other router cards, using their allocated VCI.

3) Using a globally known address resolution VCI (for ARP), build a 
directed graph out to each of the desktops within its operating region.

4) Using the ARP procedures, having vendor proprietary inter-router 
control codes, maintaining host address table management independent of
the cell relay administration procedure, having some extra SNMP management
links, and using its ability to build out VCI as needed to its desktops, 
the router cards then begins to function as a distributed application,
providing all the traditional routing functions known and accepted by
the user.

Bring on the flame throwers:  

Why isn't this the way cell-relay and router technology supposed to mesh?  
Doesn't this system offer total routing, using a small base of VCI?  
Doesn't this system encourage specialized routing software companies? 
Wouldn't the voice applications have this same independence and layering?  
Aren't we building a new third party applications industry, both hardware 
and software, by opening up the hub line card and VCI control layer?
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.cell-relay