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From: Jama_Chorush@mindlink.bc.ca (Jama Chorush)
Subject: Bob Roberts
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:16:03 GMT

Is it true that all of the songs from the movie "Bob Roberts" are set to the
tunes of folk songs of the sixties?  And if so, can anybody tell me what
those songs are?  I only recognized "The Times They Are A Changing (Back)"
and "Subterrean Homesick Blues."  Thanks.

                                   Jama Chorush
From: petro@hancock.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu (James Petro)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Diddy Wah Diddy
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:49:24 GMT
	<1992Nov17.140608.4991@lsa.umich.edu>
Organization: Concurrent Engineering Research Center
In-reply-to: gerald.b.ross@um.cc.umich.edu's message of 17 Nov 92 14:06:08 GMT



> ...  For a more contemporary version (with respect to the original) 
> listen to Ry Cooder's and Earl "Fatha" Hines version on Cooder's 
> "Chicken Skin Music" disc. Great recording, acoustic guitar and piano duet.
> The rest of the disk is great too.

I don't want to nitpick, but the disk to which you are referring is
Cooder's "Paradise and Lunch".  (Unless DWD is also on "Chicken Skin
Music", which I've never "hoid".)

Jim Petro

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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: mlc9g@Virginia.EDU ("Matt Condon")
Subject: Re: Pirate Music Anyone?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:18:54 GMT

I don't know if it would really be considered "pirate" music or
not, but how about "Barrett's Privateers" by Stan Rogers (off
the "Fogarty's Cove" album, if I remember correctly).
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Top 10 folk albums
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:10:09 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In <MARTIN.92Nov19234029@lyra.cis.umassd.edu> martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin) writes:

>"I don't have favorite ones.  I have favorite ones for a moment, and
>they sort of submerge and recycle again; it's a constant state of flux.
>And it's so widespread, I couldn't even give you a favorite type.  Many
>times it's one song on an album, or a sound.

Wow.  This almost perfectly captures my musical tastes.  "Only one
favorite?  No way, I can't choose just one! :-)"

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
From: pgwfranc@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Wayne Francis)
Subject: Re: Did the Canadian Gordon Lightfoot 3-cd set get released yet?
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:21:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.232050.15006@godzilla.quotron.com> jeff@godzilla.quotron.com (Jeff Marder) writes:
>the pre-Reprise material was all due out this past week?? Can anyone,
>particularly those of you in Canada, confirm the release??  Any info
>on cost, track listings, sound quality, etc.  Any rare tracks, outtakes,
>etc?????
>-- 
>===========================================================
>jeff@godzilla.quotron.com
>Quotron Systems   310-302-4316
>
     Yes it is released. I picked it up this week for $40. There are
no bonus tracks, just the 5 UA albums in their original form. The CD's
were mastered from the original tapes, so the sound is much improved
over previous greatest hit compilation CDs from this period. I find
the Sunday Concert material benefits especially. Highly recommended.
By the way, is this set not being released in the US?

W.Francis
pgwfranc@atlas.cs.upei.ca
From: ek1i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eugene Kuo)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Old Simon & Garfunkel
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:12:51 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, English, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.rec.music.folk: 15-Nov-92 Re: Old Simon &
Garfunkel by Lori Cole@andrew.cmu.edu 
> Yes, they did indeed record as teenagers.  I believe the '45 was called
> "Hey Schoolgirl."  I don't think it's ever been reissued; probably quite
> the collector's item.

Say!  What was on the B-side of this 45?  I've always wondered, ever
since I heard about it on the 60 minutes interview with Paul Simon.  And
while we're on the subject, does anyone know where I can get CD copies
of the PAUL SIMON SONGBOOK, or GREATEST HITS, ETC?  I don't really want
to get NEGOTIATIONS AND LOVE SONGS if I can get GREATEST HITS, ETC since
it has "stranded in a limousine" as well as "slip sliding away."  Thanks
for any info!

eugene
From: J.Crowcroft@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Jon Crowcroft)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Diddy Wah Diddy
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:34:19 GMT



 >: >  I wish somebody would tell me who recorded the first
 >: > version of diddy wah diddy - we are definitely talking 78
 >: > here.  Has it been reissued on cd or lp or cassette?

well, i always liked the version by Leon Redbone - highly authentic...
even if done in the late 70s...

cheers
j
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From: aschwart@acs.ucalgary.ca (Arthur Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Trotskyite Mammy
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 21:01:35 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <Nov.18.12.08.27.1992.9988@andromeda.rutgers.edu> dmr@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Daniel Rosenblum) writes:
>At the risk of continuing the conversion of rec.music.folk into
>soc.politics.left.sectarian.history, let me add my own two bits of
>historical enlightenment (:-)) into this discussion:

To be serious for a moment, thanks to DR for clearing up some of
the acronym confusion. I've never been able to get the different
far left groups sorted out one from another. That might be
because I'm a Groucho-Marxist myself. I've always thought, for
example, that YPSL was a place in Michigan, sort of down the road
from Ann Arbor; and that "trots" were digestive upsets that came
from eating unwashed lettuce, or things that horses did when they
ran. :-)

My own mammy was no trot, but she did take me to hear Paul
Robeson sing, in Montreal,  back when the world was still
cooling. And that was a serious thing ...



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From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Music to calm down by
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:35:50 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz) wrote:
> At work these days, I seem to be in a constant state of stress, and have
> been thinking that some soothing music might help greatly.  What are people's
> favorite calming folk tunes?  I like all kinds of folk music, so it can be
> from any tradition, as long as it has a soothing effect.  Some pointers to
> specific albums would be great.

Why not get an instrument?  Getting (particularly low-pitched) sounds out
of something simple can be very relaxing.  The tanpura is used for
meditation in India, I think.  It's a drone stringed instrument; you just
twang a slow repetitive pattern on the thing.  And you'd be popular if you
can turn up with it to accompany players of Indian melody or percussion
instruments (since there is no such thing as a virtuoso tanpura player,
they are often replaced by an electronic surrogate when groups have to tour
on a budget).  Others: the didgeridoo, gong, alto flute, tea-chest bass,
acoustic bass guitar, some kinds of drums, or bass recorder.  Some of these
even have musical uses for when the time comes that you aren't so stressed
out.

My all-time favourite song-for-when-things-are-going-badly is the mediaeval
English "Worldes blis", a statement of lugubrious and comprehensive nihilism
and hopelessness that always makes me feel better.  From memory it goes:

Worldes blis hit last no throwe		Earthly pleasure lasts no time at all
hit wit ant wend awey anon		it ups and goes in a moment
the lengur that it ic i-knowe		the longer that I know it
the las ic finde pris thereon.		the less I find in it to prize.
For al hit is i-mynd wid care		For it is all undermined with pain
wid sorewe ant wid uvel fare		with sorrow and misfortune
and at the laste, poere ant bare,	and at the last, poor and naked
hit let mon when hit ginnet agon.	it leaves a man where he started.
Al the blisce this here ant there	All pleasure, wherever it be,
belouketh at hende wop ant mon.		turns in the end to weeping and moans.

You'll find it on a lot of discs of mediaeval songs (it's a strange tune in
the Dorian mode, with six of the lines ending with a falling accent and the
final "mon" given a melismatic wail).  Cheer up, you could always have the
Black Death.

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From: lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu (lopresti robert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Christine Lavin Songbook
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:03:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Nov17.160343.6702
Organization: Western Washington University


SOme of you might be interested to know Christine Lavin has a song
book out, from Cherry Lane Music.  It's called The Christine Lavin
Songbook.  (clever title).  It is not, unfortunately, complete, but
it has sixteen songs and most of them are super.  I don't have
it in front of me, but I know there is: 
	The Amoeba Hop
	Regretting What I Said
	Santa Monica Pier
	Its a Good Thing He Cant Read My Mind
	(the song about the office crush...can't remember the name)
	Cold Pizza For Breakfast

	and my wife and I have already learned "The Kind of Love
You Never Recover From."

	The book is full of notes in her maniacally cheerful style
and photographs of her "making big fashion mistakes."  

	Amazing lady.
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: couryr@aix.rpi.edu (Robert Alan Coury)
Subject: Re: _Short,Sharp,Shocked_ Mystery Track
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:28:36 GMT

If I may venture my own opinion on this, I believe she was performing with
MDC on this track.  It sounds very much like them and this opinion was
shared by several other people as well..
From: archer@elysium.esd.sgi.com (Archer Sully)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Last of the Mohicans
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:55:59 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1992Nov23.230557.27451@pony.Ingres.COM> jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger) writes:

*In article <1992Nov23.171118.1@stsci.edu>, gawne@stsci.edu writes:
*>from Bill Gawne,
*>
*>Hi all.  I saw "Last of the Mohicans" this weekend and the music by Clannad
*>and Dougie MacLain was wonderful.  The scenery of old growth forrest was
*>a visual treat as well.
*
*Was anybody else as annoyed as I was by the scene where there's a dance
*going in on the background, and there's fiddle music by MacLean on
*the soundtrack, but the dancers were obviously dancing to a completely
*different tune? 

Yep.

*Actually, I quite liked the movie, although I couldn't help noticing that
*they never revealed what exactly a "Mohican" is, or who was the last of
*them, or why he or she was that, or why I should care one way or another.

I thought it was reasonably clear.  An indian tribe (different from Mohawk),
last one being "dad", who's name I seem to have trouble spelling and/or 
pronouncing, let along remembering.

As to why you should care, don't ask me.

-- archer
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From: tsdavies@rodan.syr.EDU (T.S. Davies)
Subject: Posting on Copyright Law
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Sam Hill Cabal, DS
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 04:03:55 EST

I have recently posted a long article containing a transcript of the
compact disc accompanying Negativland's _The Letter U And The Numeral
2_ to a fairly large number of newsgroups, but some people have
suggested I also post it to some other groups, including this one.

This article should be available in:

  alt.censorship, alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk, alt.emusic,
  alt.exotic.music, alt.music.alternative, comp.org.eff.talk,
  misc.int-property, misc.legal, misc.misc, rec.arts.books,
  rec.arts.fine, rec.arts.misc, rec.music.compose, rec.music.funky,
  rec.music.industrial, rec.music.makers, rec.music.misc, and
  rec.music.synth,

under the subject line:

  Crosley Bendix (Negativland) Discusses The Copyright Act

Note that this article's followup has been set to 'poster' -- and the
actual transcript has had it's followup set to 'misc.int-property',
which seems to be the most appropriate place for discussion of the
United States Copyright Act.

ABSTRACT:

Bendix suggests that the current Copyright Act restricts the use of
fragments of audio and visual works in new works by artists using
appropriative techniques and technologies (such as samplers and VCRs),
and suggests replacing it with a system that allows artists to benefit
from their complete original work, and that allows fragmentary reuse
by others without recompense.


Your comments on this scheme are welcomed in misc.int-property!

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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: holtslander@skyfox.usask.ca
Subject: RE: _Short,Sharp,Shocked_ Mystery Track
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:32:01 GMT

The bonus track is on the album as well, its not really a bonus track, its
just not documented in the liner notes anywhere.  The vocalist is Pete
Anderson the guitarist and producer of this album (He produces and plays
with Dwight Yoakum and a pile of other good country musicians).  I believe
the name of the song is Fogtown of Rocktown, an old punk rock fan I knew

knew the words to it by heart from some other musician

Hope this helps

Gord Holtslander (not Doug) Holtslander@Skyfox.usask.ca
From: HENKLE@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU (Doug Henkle, Univ of Wis Oshkosh)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Old Simon & Garfunkel
Date: 17 Nov 1992 10:42:46 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

>(Bob Murphy):
>I once heard that Simon & Garfunkel put out an album when they were
>teenagers.  They apparently went under the name of Tom & Jerry.
>I've looked in phonologs and used album stores but I've never found such
>an album.  Does it really exist???

     Here you go, direct from pages 260-261 of the 1991 book, "Simon and
Garfunkel: Old Friends - A Dual Biography", by Joseph Morella and Patricia
Barey.  These are the 9 rare items you can search for:


Tom and Jerry Singles              Tom Graph (Art) and Jerry Landis (Paul)

1957                   Art was 16 on 11-05-57, and Paul was 15 on 10-13-57

"Hey Schoolgirl" / "Dancin' Wild"                                  Big 613

1958

"Don't Say Goodbye" / "That's My Story"                            Big 618
"Our Song" / "Two Teenagers"                                       Big 619
"Baby Talk" / "Two Teenagers"                                      Big 621

1959

"That's My Story" / "Don't Say Goodbye"                           Hunt 319
"Baby Talk" (Tom & Jerry) /
   "I'm Going to Get Married" (Ronnie Lawrence)                   Bell 120

1960

Hey Schoolgirl" / "Dancin' Wild"                              King 45-5167

1962

"Surrender, Please Surrender" / "Fightin' Mad"      ABC-Paramount 45-10363
"That's My Story" / "Tijuana Blues"                 ABC-Paramount 45-10788


     Plus, the discography also lists 18 more solo singles, all issued
under pseudonyms between 1958 and 1963: Art as "Artie Garr" (2); and
Paul as "True Taylor" (1), "Tico" of "Tico and the Triumphs" (4),
"Jerry Landis" (10) and "Paul Kane" (1).

     There is no indication in the discography that any of the above has
ever been issued on an album, or that Art ever recorded anything solo as
"Tom Graph".  But then, because it does not list any post-S&G solo
singles, it does not claim to be a "complete" discography.

                                  Doug
                            henkle@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
From: dragel@sqhilton.pc.cs.cmu.edu (Cheryl Dragel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Bob Roberts
Date: 23 Nov 92 05:47:22 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <17682@mindlink.bc.ca> Jama_Chorush@mindlink.bc.ca (Jama  
Chorush) writes:
> Is it true that all of the songs from the movie "Bob Roberts" are set to  
the
> tunes of folk songs of the sixties?  And if so, can anybody tell me what
> those songs are?  I only recognized "The Times They Are A Changing  
(Back)"
> and "Subterrean Homesick Blues."  Thanks.

Didn't they sing "This Land Is My Land" to the tune of
"This Land is Your Land"? (lyrics were something like
"this land is my land...this land was made for me").

--cheryl
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes)
Subject: Re: <<< One Tin Soldier >>><<< Background? >>>
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:27:32 GMT

In article <Nov.19.14.23.34.1992.18366@andromeda.rutgers.edu> hauk@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Keira E. Hauk) writes:
>Does anyone have any information in regard to the song, "One Tin Soldier?"
>I think its composers are Lambert and Potter...I have heard that it was the
>song for a movie called, "Billy Jack."  Does anyone know about that movie
>and its significance to the song?
>
>Does anyone have any info on how many people have recorded "One Tin Soldier".
>I only know of one and but can't remember her name.


The song was recorded by a group called, I think, "Coven."  It was pretty much
typical of the "protest songs" of the time, i.e., hate, war, and the
establishment are bad, only love can save the world, etc.  The movie was
pretty much the same thing.  Billy Jack was on the side of love, single-
handedly taking on all levels of the establishment, from local cops (hundreds
of them) to the Evil Empire of government.  Despite his peace-loving philosophy
he did most of his pursuading with spin-kicks and body slams.  He was sort of
a cross between Bruce Lee, Buford Pusser and Rambo. The movie was VERY popular
at the time.  It was a sequel to a terrible thing called "The Born Losers," in
which Billy Jack, not yet at war with the establishment, wiped out a motorcycle
gang.  There was also a third movie, "The Trial of Billy Jack,"  which has
made several lists of Hollywood's top turkeys.  Tom Laughlin (Billy Jack)
later became an activist in behalf of several causes, but I haven't heard too
much from him lately.

TH
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: rblackma@nyx.cs.du.edu (robert blackman)
Subject: Ar Log
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix (sponsored by U. of Denver Math/CS dept.)
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 00:39:30 GMT

Albums by this Welsh band are available from an excellent mail order
source for Celtic and British albums: Devine Celtic Sounds, PO Box 5983,
Glendale, AZ 85312-5983.  They charge $1 for a catalog.  There's at
least one Ar Log CD (which contains two of their earlier LPs).  They 
may also have LPs and tapes -- they sell used ones as well as new.
You can get a lot of hard-to-find British labels from them -- Fellside,
Iona, etc.
Also -- check out the article about Ar Log, with discography, in issue #37
of Dirty Linen, available for $3.50 from Dirty Linen, PO Box 66600,
Baltimore, MD 21239-6600.  Folk music fans should definitely check out
both Sing Out! and Dirty Linen, both very informative magazines.
(In fact, SIng Out! printed the words and music to "Arthur McBride"
a few years ago, but that's another thread...
   Bob Blackman, Haslett, MI

Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: jdalin@devildog.att.com (Jimmy Dalin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Bob Roberts
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:29:15 GMT
Organization: AT&T IMS - Piscataway, NJ (USA)

In article <1992Nov23.102812.28568@hemlock.cray.com> robd@cherry09.cray.com (Robert Derrick) writes:
>Jama Chorush (Jama_Chorush@mindlink.bc.ca) wrote:
>: Is it true that all of the songs from the movie "Bob Roberts" are set to the
>: tunes of folk songs of the sixties?  And if so, can anybody tell me what
>: those songs are?  I only recognized "The Times They Are A Changing (Back)"
>: and "Subterrean Homesick Blues."  Thanks.
>: 
>:                                    Jama Chorush
>
>He also did a takeoff of Phil Ochs' "What Did You Learn In School?".
>
Tom Paxton wrote "What Did You Learn In School Today?".


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From: skravis@garnet.csis.dit.csiro.au (Simon Kravis)
Subject: TV program on 26th Australian National Folk Festival
Organization: /users/vis/skravis/.organization
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:14:40 GMT


Next Sunday evening (29 November),at 8:30 pm SBS television is
broadcasting a 1 hour special program called "From Fringe to Folk"
using some of the material recorded at the 26th National Folk Festival
in Canberra last Easter.  Some of the performers featured are
Catriona Macdonald (Shetland fiddle player), Kavisha Mazella,
Rich'n'Famous, Simon O'Dwyer, Alan Dargin, Toucan Tango, Three Bags
Full. A 2 hour videotape of that material plus a lot more will
be available soon afterwards.

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From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Music to calm down by
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:51:30 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In <3346@voodoo.UUCP> das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz) writes:

>At work these days, I seem to be in a constant state of stress, and have
>been thinking that some soothing music might help greatly.  What are people's
>favorite calming folk tunes?  I like all kinds of folk music, so it can be
>from any tradition, as long as it has a soothing effect.  Some pointers to
>specific albums would be great.

Sorry to hear that, Deb!  I find these work for me:

Enya - Watermark		Wonderful, atmospheric stuff
Enya - Shepard Moons		Also pretty good
Van Morrison - Moondance	These two albums by Van are the ultimate ...
Van Morrison - Astral Weeks	... "break glass in case of emergency" albums
Mary Black - No Frontiers	Mary Black has a really spiritual angle ...
Mary Black - Babes In The Wood	... that's fetched me back, as well

While some have a problem with Enya, I'd recommend the Van Morrison
albums and the Mary Black albums to anyone.  Caveat: "Astral Weeks"
is a little difficult.

Rob T
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