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From: walton@engin.umich.edu (Donnell T Walton)
Subject: We In There--Lyrics
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 12:57:45 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa

We in there
Sex and Violence

I know ya'll didn't ask for this but it contains my favorite conceptual line to date.
Let's explore it, shall we...


The type of lyrical terrorism I present
Educates people at the same time pays my rent
You been hearing me now for the past 12 semesters
When the suckers stepped up I had to use the drastic measures
I know you want to step to me kid
But you're thinking damn Kris is kinda big
Plus he rolls with a crew that don't care
And drops a hit album, hit video, hit single every year
From your eye drops a tear
I don't play that shit, I play that hit
Your whole gangster image is not legit
You heard Criminal Minded and bit the whole shit
Now if I punch you in your face I'd be wrong
Don't even think about battle in a song
You'd be gone your career ain't strong enough to call my bluff
You ain't rough, you ain't tough, you'll be handcuffed
With your rib cage crushed, naked in a box, with multicolored tube socks
You know my fuckin' name 
Blastmaster KRS is thinking long range

(we in there, yeah, yeah)

Yeah in there, like you'll soon be in prison
To a weight liftin' faggot your ass you'll be given
Who you kiddin, you only trying to rock a PARTEEEEEEEEEEEE
You ain't really down to shoot nobody
You be frontin' saying from the cops you be running
In jail in a pair of panties you'll look just stunning
You be poppin' all that wannabe shit on vinyl
'Till your ass is being pumped by a faggot named Lionel
In jail you get no respect, you a fairy
I'll be taking your commissary
And that picture of your sista mista
See me as Pee Wee Herman I ain't trying to diss her
This ain't no bull shit game and I ain't changed
I'm just thinking long range
(My favorite line follows)
People died so I can rhyme
Think I gonna grab the mike and waste my nation's time
Step off with that weak shit
You're psychologically, historically, and spiritually sick
Plus you're on my dick
Changing the subject, your rhyme style ain't correct
You know my fuckin' name
Blastmaster KRS is thinking long range
From: jwilson@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Swinging on a ledge (Chi-Ali)
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:19:10 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.194514.27409@athena.mit.edu>, madpit@athena.mit.edu (Douglas R. Pitters) writes:
> Ever feel like you were a tree in the midst of a mighty wind?
> You have no idea if you'll be standing when the wind stops blowing.
> 
> That's the way I feel about everyones stance on Chi-Ali.
> 
> I feel like I'm the only one giving his album props.
> 
> 
> 
> 			doug nice
> 
> 
> PS Kriss Kross may be Pop Tart hip hop, but my partner made me
> play it at this gig last Friday night *after* Black Sheep and
> people were climbing the walls.

**
I'm tellin' y'all, this "Jump" single by KK is gonna BLOW UP!!  It's already
gettin' much white radio play, a very real indication in itself (the ONLY
indication?).  Haven't heard the LP yet, I'll be borrowing it this week.  Am I
wastin' my time?


==Phyz
From: tim@crash.canon.co.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Arrested Developement
Summary: repost [nntpxmit failed]
Date: 14 Apr 92 07:48:53 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Canon Research Centre Europe Ltd

v065nlpz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amil) writes:
|In article <...>, balbondj@craft.camp.clarkson.edu writes...
|> 
|>      I liked to give props to the first person on this net to 
|>      bring Arrested Confusion to my attention.
::
|
|	I dont understand what that first sentence even means!  It doesnt
|make sense to me.  But...Arrested Development's album has been out for
|many weeks now.  And its been discussed on this .net.

Amil! Amil! It's street slang! Let me translate...

``I'd like to give a big thank you to the person who pointed out (on the
  net many weeks ago) how good Arrested Development's album was'' [okay,
  so maybe it wasn't phrased as well as it coulda been]

Amil! Amil! Get with the program!

|Doesnt everyone read all the posts?  

Only on the days when I don't have a life...

Tx. [sorry, I couldn't resist]
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-- Tim [O'Donoghue] <tim@crash.canon.co.uk> <...!uunet!uknet!canon!tim>
From: gd16+@andrew.cmu.edu (Garth A. Daley)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Dissing the Wafer One
Date: 15 Apr 92 02:13:37 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Heard the HARD dis of V Wafer on eMpTyV last night (actually, I've heard it
before, but was too lazy to post it). A comedian on MTV's 1/2 Hr. Comedy Hr.
said:

When is Vanilla Ice going to realize that his musical importance is right up
there with the construction worker from Village People.

Definately one of the worse directed towards the Ice Cream Cone IMO.

GD
Jamaican Hip-hop connoisseur trapped at CMU

PS For those who don't know/remember, Village People was a fairly successful
   group back in the Disco days of the '70s in which all the members dressed
   as different types of workers and ethnic groups. The construction worker
   did NOTHING in terms of singing or playing an instrument.
From: madpit@athena.mit.edu (Douglas R. Pitters)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Rap vs. Hip Hop
Date: 15 Apr 92 06:51:39 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Rap vs. Hip Hop.... New York Style.




RAP

Hammer
V. Ice
2 Live Crew


Hip-Hop

Brand Nubes
BDP.
Eric B. & Rakim.


RAP can be any speed (as in BPM)


Hip-Hop is usually between 96-105.
New school "Jump" hip-hop is between 100-105.
(i.e. LONS, NbyN)



Hip-Hop is a specific genre of rap.


I could go on and say some opinions about how I feel about
hip-hop made outside of New York, but I won't cuz I don't want
to hurt anyone's feelings, and, more importantly, I don't
want anyone hurting mine... :-)



			doug nice


			Again.  It is the legend.
From: dc4l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Dean Calloway)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Dissing the Wafer One
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:55:44 GMT
Organization: Masters student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts From Captions of netnews.alt.rap:
15-Apr-92  Re: Dissing the Wafer One      Chris.Hilker@cats.ucsc.e (692)    
>Hey, waitaminute there! What about "I Love You To Death," on the soundtrack
>for 'Can't Stop The Music?' David Hodo (the construction worker) sings lead
>on that track, I believe.
> 

I know nobody wants to follow disco, but as an aside, I caught a piece
on the tube a couple of weeks ago... the Village People are in Europe
(minus the lead singer... can't recall) and doing very well.  Go figure.

DCAL
From: simon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Patrice A. Simon)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Hip Hop in da 'Cuse
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:20:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.1992Apr14.172009.757
Distribution: all
Organization: UB


	Just a review of the Greek Freak in Syracuse last weekend featuring 
Queen Latifah, UMC's, Fu-Schnickens, and Channel 3 (a local group). Black 
Sheep didn't show (something about a plane mishap - it had an emergency
landing). 
	Queen Latifah ROCKED THE HOUSE Saturday! I was surprised to see the
moves she made given her size (no flames please). The crowd (estimated much
more than 5,000) was jumpin' (just a side note to all you critics - Kriss 
Kross' "Jump" is still a club favorite). She did "Fly Girl", a dancehall song
and a couple others from her recent album - came back to do "Latifah's Had it
Up to Here" - not the hyped DJ AD remix I hoped for. 
	UMC's opened for Latifah - like Main Source last year, their surprise
appearence here introduced me to their album - slammin' performances included
"One to Grow on", "Blue Cheese", "Never Never Land" (live effect similar to 
Brand Nubian's "Slow Down". Many others. Hard.
	Channel 3 was dope for an unknown local group. Best impromtu raps. Look
out for them.
	Fu-Schnickens. First of all, let me say that it's hard for me to be 
critcal of Fu-Schnickens. Their live show was wack. Weak. Short. Not at all
like the "La Schmoove" video although the crowd was with it for a while, and
Chip Fu controlled the mike. They suffered from poor mixing (mentioned before
in previous posts). They didn't even do "Bebo" or "Generals" - they did "Movie
Scene" (with the recorded voices), "True Fu-shnick" and "Ring the Alarm" (not
the wicked Steely and Clevie remix)

	Groups listed in order of stage show dopeness. 

-- 
Patrice Simon
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From: mjohnson@terapin.com (Mike Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO ERIC Z.
Date: 16 Apr 92 08:32:17 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <12APR92.19252852@vax.clarku.edu>, cshelly@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>oking hippy fags who sit in the meadow and strum on their guitars singing peace
> songs. Hardly anyone here listens to rap music, It really sucks! Oh well I jus
>t sit in my room and blast some of the good shit.
what  the hell doyou mean hardly anyone here listens to rap music??? damn i
HATE when people get mixed up on which base they are posting on....at least
thats what i hope that was, a mistake!
From: marko@wpi.WPI.EDU (Mark Steven Adamowicz)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: BEASTIE BOYS SAMPLE
Keywords: LOOKING DOWN THE BARREL OF A GUN
Date: 17 Apr 92 14:36:50 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute


Ok I could pick up the fact that the Beastie song "Looking down the barrel
of a gun" off _Paul's Boutique_ had a looped drum sample of Twisted Sister's
"We're not Gonna take it" but what is the guitar riff smapled from?

sounds like Van Halen, form the Diver Down era...."everybody wants some" maybe?


email to me at *** marko@wpi.epi.edu ****  or just post to the net

thanks in advance
From: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Thoughts Re: Rap vs. Hip Hop
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:40:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: cork.XJAM.92Apr15144015
Distribution: alt
Organization: University of California, Berserkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cork.cs.berkeley.edu


Rap: A form of expression.

Hip hop: A way of life, state of mind.
It's an attitude boyyyyeeeeee!!

Rap: Lou Reed, Fred Astaire, MC Hammer, Shabba Ranks, SuperCat, Chuck D.
and Q-Tip

Hip Hop: Graffiti, breakin', fly gear, slang, jeep beats, Chuck D. and Q-Tip.

--
            xjam@cork.Berkeley.EDU	

They can't come on and play me in prime time, 		
Cause I know the time, cause I'm gettin' mine.		
I get on the mix late in the night... -Public Enemy

Fiiiive Thousand Boomin Watts...... -The JBeez
From: tim@crash.canon.co.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Awesome 2
Date: 6 Apr 92 08:15:33 GMT
Organization: Canon Research Centre Europe Ltd

agathon@athena.mit.edu (Garry Moorer) writes:
|Yo, the Awesome 2 are Special K and Teddy Ted I think.  I don't don't know if
|they are the awesome 2 anymore tho.  Since Ted is with Greg and B.  What does
|special K do anyway?  dj?...
Special K raps (at least he did when he was in the Treacherous 3 with LA
Sunshine and Kool Moe Dee).

Tx. [blast from the past]
--
-- Tim [O'Donoghue] <tim@crash.canon.co.uk> <...!uunet!uknet!canon!tim>
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: mcmahon@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael G. McMahon)
Subject: Violent Femmes (was: Black Sheep, April 23)
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 05:25:59 GMT

In article <Adusq_y00WcDMB6UZZ@andrew.cmu.edu> mc78+@andrew.cmu.edu
(Michael Anthony Carnevale) writes: 
>Oh No!!
>Not another PE-Sisters of Mercy type tour!  I heard of Violent Femmes
>about five years ago, and all I know about them is that they are like
>Depeche Mode type of singing--in other words, depressing, slow, stupid
>beat, annoying nasal singing, just down and out doo-doo.
   Disagree.  If you're into punk-ass music, the Femmes are the shit.
Less nasal than Flav, fairly weak beats (they are not hip-hop, OR rap,
and don't pretend to be), but not "depressing and slow".  
   Expect to hear "Blister in the Sun", and a lot of songs about being a
teen-ager/young adult in a fucked-up world.  And a lot of guitar.

   I hear they do a great acoustic set, where they go back to their jazz
bag-o-tricks.  
   I wouldn't pay $8, but if you can listen to thrash or punk then check
it out.

Peace.
-mike



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From: ln63sdm@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Marcel Carlsson)
Newsgroups: alt.rap,rec.music.funky
Subject: CompRap 12" questions - CMW 'I don't dance'
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:35:47 GMT
Followup-To: poster

Was the cut 'I don't dance' by CMW(compton's most wanted) ever released on
12"???

If so, was this recently??

Also,  anyone know what that sample is taken from on EPMD's 'So whatcha
sayin'?  I'm referring to the funky rhythm guitar lick at the beginning of
the second bar.

	ln63sdm@sdcc4.ucsd.edu


Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: david j warner <dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: New Spin Out
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 21:46:04 -0500

In article <92101.114928U14864@uicvm.uic.edu> Tyrone Ellison <U14864@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>  When Kris mentions that Cube dissed him, he was referring to a line from
>"Rollin' With the Lench Mob" (From AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted) when Cube said
>"...Some rappers are heaven-sent/but 'Self-Destruction' don't pay the fuckin'
>rent..."  For some reason, Kris took that line personally... I wonder why,
>since Chuck appeared on Self-Destruction AND co-produced the album... Chuck
>didn't have much of a problem with that phrase... Maybe Kris has been
>"...holding his own throttle" a little too tightly...
>Which brings me to a question... What's Kris' problem with Poor Righteous
>Teachers?...

KRS-1 has an objection with the 5 percent nation sect of Islam, of which PRT
is a part.  The basis of the religion, according to Parker, is that 85% of the
people are lost, 10% are devils, and 5% are the "chosen ones."  Parker's
objection is that the 5% are doing nothing to guide the "lost" 85% and are
just dissing them.  If they are the holy ones, Parker believes, they should
be teaching all the rest, not just flaming them.

>Peace out...
>P.S.:  According to (unconfirmed) reports from the Source (via Chicago's
>Rap Show on WHPK [88.5]), BDP and X-Clan have settled their differences and
>they will be working on a cut TOGETHER that's supposed to be out by December...
>Has anyone else heard about this?
>  5,000... From da Minister of Rage, Gifted Underworld Executioner...

This is a real shock to me.  I remember hearing that 3rd Bass and X-Clan had
resolved their differences a while back, but "Fire and Earth" made me question
that, and now *these* two?  That I find very hard to believe.  I do believe,
however, that BDP came out hard with "Build and Destroy" and made X-Clan look
pretty bad.  Then again, I've always liked BDP, so I may be the wrong person
to ask.

5000...

-- 
- David J. Warner            - "Maybe (Montross) plays better after he gets   -
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- (One for all...            -                              - Dean Smith      -
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Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: mmoore@ux.acs.umn.edu ("None of ya Bizness")
Subject: Re: Loc'd up
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 02:08:17 GMT

In article <casteley.702900340@groucho.phil.ruu.nl> casteley@phil.ruu.nl (Eric Casteleyn) writes:
$
$
$                  Yo Phyz,
$
$     Loc's first album is called Loc'd after dark, I have it and it's wack.
$   Wild thing was ok at the time but does get boring and the rest of the 
$   trakks is worse. Don't waste prescious tape-space, but leave it alone.

Awwwww don't be so quick to dis the Loc.  Although some of his tracks was 
wiz-nack, some of em was pretty dope.  Now I couldn't fuckin stand Funky
Cold Medina or Don't Get Close, but the beat in Loc'in on the Shaw was
dope as hell!  Wild Thang is pretty weak because it got white-radio-played
out, but the rest of the songs is cool.  It's up to you...but the alblum is
not as booty as old boy Eric would present it.

Peace and Fruity Pebbles.

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From: agathon@athena.mit.edu (Garry Moorer)
Subject: Re: Chi Ali and the next generation
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:41:59 GMT

Chi-Ali is wack.  I'm even more convinced after I saw the video.
Goddamnit, that bastard is wack.  

As far as this "next generation" stuff goes, I think the Fam-lee is alright.
That one song I heard "Runs in the Fam-lee", I think, was pretty dope.
But the newjacks who are dope as hell are Da Youngsters.   Or is it just
Da Youngster?  Whatever the name is, that song "Somethin for Da Youngsters"
is hype as hell!    On the Chuck Wagon, PaZ!

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From: madpit@athena.mit.edu (Douglas R. Pitters)
Subject: Re: Black Sheep, April 23
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 07:19:34 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.210649.25948@athena.mit.edu>, agathon@athena.mit.edu (Garry Moorer) writes:
|> Yo, for all those who don't know, the Sheep are comin. 
|> April 23rd, MIT spring concert.  They're openin for some group called
|> the Violent Femmes.  Tickets cost 8 bones, doors open at 9 I think.  You can
|> get tix now at mit, and also at the door.  IMO it's worth $8 to
|> check out the sheep, and jet afterwards...  I hope they get a decent
|> amount of time to go off!  Peace!
|> 
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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|> *=Aquitaine=*			|      'cause I'd push the fuckin button and
|> agathon@athena.mit.edu  	|      get it over with."  Bushwick Bill '91
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Um.  I suppose the word isn't out.


Black Sheep are not coming.

1) SCC (Student Center Commitee) says they were too expensive.
	[I didn't think so, but hey what do I know]
   $4500 + expenses =  ~$6000

2) Violent Femmes didn't want anyone opening for them.
	[Sound a bit suspect to me, but hey what do I know]


I suggested Black Sheep *instead* of Violent Femmes.
The president of SCC smiled.  He's a nice guy.



			doug nice


			Again.  It is the legend.
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: gvbattle@window.Princeton.EDU (Gregory V. Battle)
Subject: G-BAttle's Top 10 er....20
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 03:12:25 GMT

OK folks, I had to put in my 2 pennies.....here we go.
(It's pretty obvious that I love NYC shit, so deal :)

First, my old favorites in no particular order, with the
songs that inspired me.....

Ultramagnetic MC's - Critical Beatdown  "Ego Trippin'"
Big Daddy Kane - Long Live The Kane   "Raw"
Eric B and Rakim - Paid In Full   "I Ain't No Joke"
Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions  "Rebel Without a Pause"
Tribe Called Quest - Peoples Instinctive Travels "Bonita Applebaum"
Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded  "The Bridge is Over"
Run DMC - Run DMC     "Sucker MC's"
UTFO - (that first album, yeah I said it :)  "Roxanne Roxanne"
LL Cool J - Radio              "Rock the Bells"
Kool G Rap - Rags to Riches    "Poison"


New favorites, with no order......

Organized Konfusion
UMC's
Das EFX
F Ushnickens
Arrested Development
Cypress Hill
Leaders Of the New School
Hood (RIP)
Naughty By Nature
Main Source


Just one black man's opinion, ..... what's yours 
<stolen from Charles I. >


G-BAttle
Groovy in '92
From: mmoore@ux.acs.umn.edu ("None of ya Bizness")
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Clearly, one of our better flame wars
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:57:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux.1992Apr7.195755.23915
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <ISBELL.92Apr7132458@pop-tarts.ai.mit.edu> isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell) writes:

$You guys are a trip.  I go away for a week to work on my thesis and
$all I get when I come back is this silly flame war.  On the other
$hand, it's a whole lot better than the recurrinf "rap-ain't-music"
$flame fest or the "Vanilla-Wafer-sucks" flame war we had last year.

Shit chea.  This one was good!!  And I just loves flame-war remnants when
everybody tries to get in their last dis while the subject is still 
relevant!

$As for all you slang-wannabees: talk in whatever way you talk.  Lord
$knows I do (See, I'm always versatile with the dope word style,
$measure my lyrical pipe by the mile, etc, etc).

Speakin of those who wanna be, I'm starting a chapter of the National
Council of the Gangsta Wannabes.  Send e-mail to me, mmoore@ux.acs.umn.edu
if you want more info.  Flames will, of course, be chewed up and spit
right backatcha.

$But, as is the wont of hiphop, be prepared to dis and be dissed.
			 	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What did I say?  What did I say?!!!

Rice Chex,

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From: jwilson@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Pigs
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:39:38 GMT

In article <1992Apr3.171410.19807@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v081jwnc@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (William E Neuburger) writes:
> While this may be a little old, I came to the conclusion that the best 
> track on the Cyrpess Hill album is pigs.  Without any doubt it is the
> funniest and has that cool undescribable sound.  Just thought I would
> let you all know.
> 
> Adios,
> William


HELLZ NO!!

Pigs over "Real Estate, Hand on tha Pump, Born ta Git Busy, Stoned is.." 
C'mon, give it another listen Will.  

==Phyz
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