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From: trsnyder@mcs.drexel.edu (Bob Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Vendors & Usenet (was Re: VersaTerm)
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:40:03 GMT
	<9301051108.AA41468@chaos.intercon.com>
	<1993Jan9.015552.6282@mtxinu.COM>
Organization: ASCI

In article <1993Jan9.015552.6282@mtxinu.COM> larrym@mtxinu.COM (Larry Meyer) writes:

   There is no conflict; the usenet code of conduct explicitly forbids
   advertising. Period.

Bzzzzzzt.  Thank you for playing.

There is no grand overseeing body that dictates usenet policy.  Even if you
went with what certain influentual members of the net community felt, it
would still allow advertising.  From Gene Spafford's "What is USENET:"

 7. Usenet is not an advertising medium.

    Because of Usenet's roots in academia, and because Usenet depends
    so heavily on cooperation (sometimes among competitors), custom
    dictates that advertising be kept to a minimum.  It is tolerated
    if it is infrequent, informative, and low-hype.

    The "comp.newprod" newsgroup is NOT an exception to this rule:
    product announcements are screened by a moderator in an attempt to
    keep the hype-to-information ratio in check.

    If you must engage in flackery for your company, use the "biz"
    hierarchy, which is explicitly "advertising-allowed", and which
    (like all of Usenet) is carried only by those sites that want it.

Interconn has been flamed before for posting hyped information before, and
I'm sure they will be flamed again.  There's a fine line between useful
information and blatent hyped advertising, and Interconn treads very closely
to it.

   If you feel you must mention your product, you should mention your
   competitors as well, in a non-judgemental fashion.  (I do this my
   email messages too, but I don't expect you to be that ethical).

I have seen Interconn people do this (in posting).  I haved also seen them not
do it.

   If we don't keep advertising off the net, we'll lose what little
   federal funding it gets. so start stop advertising on the net.

Internet != Usenet.  Usenet does not depend on the NSF backbone to exchange
information.  Not to mention that the NSF is being asked to open up to
commercial traffic anyways.

I like having Interconn be on the net, and posting *information* about their
products.  It provides a source of information about a set of products which
I might have otherwise not heard of.  I do get somewhat disgusted when they
cross the line.  But the value of the information provided outweighs the
negative of the hype.

Bob
From: stevans@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU (Dan Stevans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Telnet 2.5 PF key mapping -> F1-F4
	We've just installed Telnet 2.5 on our networked Macs.
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:35:16 GMT
Distribution: comp

adTHANKSvance

Dan Stevans............. stevans@njmsa.umdnj.edu
Univ.ofMed.&Dent.of NJ.
(201)982-6704
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: antjcb@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (J.C.Burns)
Subject: Binhex--how do I convert to hex on a unix machine?
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:23:07 GMT


So I have this file I need to transfer over a 7 bit connection
to a Mac. I know all about Binhex on the MAC side, but what unix
application converts a binary file to hexadecimal?
And...where can I get it if my system doesn't have it?

Thanks.

--jcburns
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: ken@cujo.curtin.edu.au (Ken Taylor)
Subject: Duo Modems
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:18:08 GMT

What's the word on Internal Modems for the PowerBook Duos..

Are there any in production yet, and what is there to choose from ??

Ken
-- 
 Ken Taylor              |  "I have a friend who's seen inside my tiny brain
 ken@cujo.curtin.edu.au  |   He's seen the aging and the mildew from the rain
 Curtin University       |   And he does what he can to keep on top of every
 Perth, W. Australia     |     one of them"     - Happy Rhodes
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Distribution: world
From: Dana_Jones@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 23:50:28 PST
Subject: Re: Stock market ap

The company that I work for, Charles Schwab, sells a software package called
Equalizer that runs on the PC.  Can't really recommend it since I've never
used it but it may be a place to start.  Good luck!!  DJ

**** From Planet BMUG, the FirstClass BBS of BMUG.  The message contained in
**** this posting does not in any way reflect BMUG's official views.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: Could someone kindly answer a newbie's question?
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:46:34 GMT

In article <1ispmsINNtuc@ub.d.umn.edu> serickso@ub.d.umn.edu
	(Scott Erickson) writes:
>I am not sure if there is a program on the mac that can uncompress .Z files,

There's MacCompress (info-mac/util/maccompress-32.hqx).  Probably
others as well.

>Stuffit does not decompress Compact Pro.  I do not know if Compact Pro
>decompresses Stuffit files.

StuffIt Expander [freeware] does decompress Compact Pro.  System
6 users will probably still want CPT Expand.
(info-mac/util/cpt-expand-10.hqx)

>BinHex converts a binary file to a text file.  It seems that many programs
>can only handle text files.  Programs like elm, trn, etc do not like binary
>files.  So BinHex converts the binary file to an ASCII file.  The reason it
>is bigger is (I could be wrong) that binary files use the full 8 bits whereas
>ASCII only uses 7 out of the 8 bits.  So more bytes are needed to represent
>the file.

Actually, there's more to it than that.  The biggest "problem"
with the Macintosh files is that they have THREE parts to them,
known as the resource fork, the data fork, and the finder info.
Files stored on most other computer systems generally correspond
to just the data fork, and the other parts simply could not be
represented (and would thus be lost).

There are many approaches to making Mac files palatable to
"ordinary" computers.  BinHex rolls all three parts into a single
file with a limited repertoire (hence the apparent expansion),
and a limited line length.  It has the overall character of text,
and is therefore suitable for transit through e-mail systems that
enforce severe content restrictions.  Think of it as a "least
common denominator" format, designed for portability rather than
efficiency.

>>- Are there any other extensions besides what I've listed that I'll need
>>to know about? (and their corresponding programs?)

You may still find a few .pit (PackIt) files lying around on the
archives.  I'm pretty sure both StuffIt and Compact Pro can deal
with those.  A bit more common are DiskDoubler documents--you'll
need DDExpand (info-mac/util/dd-expand-377.hqx) for these, since
nothing else seems to understand them.

>>- (I've seen this in the IBM archives - not sure if it applies to Macs)
>>Will I ever encounter Mac files with .tar extensions?  And if so, what do
>>I need to handle THAT?

Probably not, but just in case, there are programs for that too.
(info-mac/util/suntar-132.hqx)  Also ones to deal with most of
the common PeeCee compression/archiving formats.

In any case, this subject is pretty well covered in the articles
titled "comp.sys.mac.comm Frequently Asked Questions" (4 parts).
FAQ articles supposedly exist so people won't keep asking the
same things over and over again (of course, it doesn't work, but
the intent is there).

Info-Mac files are available through anonymous FTP or gopher from
sumex-aim.stanford.edu, and mirrored on FTP sites worldwide.

					-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: chuck@stratus.drexel.edu (Wombozni Klik)
Subject: Re: Best, cheapest 14.4 modem
Organization: Drexel University Department of Physics
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:56:04 GMT
X-Posted-From: stratus.physics.drexel.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


I like the zoom modem a lot - I haven't had any problems that couldn't
be solved by my playing around and talking with others...
Now if I could only convince my university to upgrade from 2400baud
modems...

Try the fax, if you've got another fax machine to send to. I did this
with a Claris CAD color document (line segments), straight from the app. 
The fax output looks ten times better than scanned docs!

Chuck
--
Chuck Browne                            | Frisbeetarianism: The belief that  
Drexel University Department of Physics | when you die, your soul goes up
chuck@nimbus.physics.drexel.edu         | on the roof and gets stuck.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: marcbg@feenix.metronet.com (Marc B. Grant)
Subject: Help de-bin-hexing
Organization: Tx Metronet Communications Services, Dallas Tx
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 17:10:20 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: victor@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (V Menayang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: IBM>>MacBinary>>Mac
Date: 11 Jan 93 03:24:45 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin

On the MS-DOS side there's a program called MacSee
that reads and writes from/to Mac disks.
Just write your downloaded binaries to a mac disk
and your mac should be able to read them just fine.
I found the program a couple of weeks ago at
ftp.cica.indiana.edu (the Windows archive site).

Good luck.

-victor

-- 

-------------------------------------------------------------
Victor Menayang                     victor@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu 
=============================================================
From: wolfgang@netcom.com (Wolfgang Henke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: PRODIGY's MODEM SALE ANOTHER HEADACHE!!! I've been had :-(
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:01:08 GMT
Organization: Netcom
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Imran Anwar (imran@panix.com) wrote:
: 
: I am not mistaken.  I just reported what the stupid people at Eagle
: told me.  even the folks at Prodigy shared a laugh with me when we
: discussed how a modem manufacturer says ATDT comiung from a Mac is
: different from ATDT coming from a PC....but guess what.  There was
: a difference, but it was this.  The EAGLE WILL NOT WORK WITH STANDARD
: HARDWARE HANDSHAKING CABLES ON THE MACS.

Imran, you are mistaken, yet once again. The Digicom Eagle and also the
Digicom Scout+ modems work correctly with a standard hardware handshake
cable. By now there are dozens of users who have gotten the cable plus
software package from me, and I have not heard a complaint.

Here is the setup string for the Digicom Scout+:

Setup string for Apple MacIntosh: AT&F&D0&W
Software Quicklink II, cable included with modem

at*o
MODEL:SCOUT PLUS
DTE:  38400  N81
DCE:  IDLE

 E1  K1  M1  Q0  V1  X4 TONE
&B0 &C1 &D0 &R2 &T5 
*E9 *F3 *G1 *M1 *N6 *P0 *Q1 *S1 *T1 

S00=002  S04=010  S08=002  S15=255
S01=000  S05=008  S09=000  S18=000
S02=043  S06=002  S10=003  S25=000
S03=013  S07=045  S12=050  S26=000
OK

It would also help if you clean up your language.


-- 
   _________________________________________________________________________
   Wolfgang Henke     Data lanes not car pool lanes      wolfgang@netcom.com
From: murphy@cs.unc.edu (Ransom Murphy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: BBS interface for mac
Date: 6 Jan 1993 16:54:25 -0500
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
NNTP-Posting-Host: tsc.cs.unc.edu

Is there an application that one can use for logging onto
BBS?  I log on and get all these characters that make my screen
look confusing.  I think that they are intended to do some graphical
stuff on a PC and that White Knight doesn't know what to do with
them.

Any advice? (Other than to buy a PC  :-) )

Thanks,
Ransom


-- 
Ransom Murphy 			                Internet: murphy@cs.unc.edu 
Department of Computer Science		        PH# 919-962-1708
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill     
Sitterson Hall/CB# 3175				Chapel Hill, NC  27599
From: diessel@marthe.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de (Thomas Diessel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: What in MacX 1.1.7 doesn't work under system 7.1 (seems to work)
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: 7 Jan 1993 13:26:45 GMT
Organization: Federal Armed Forces University, Munich
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: macthomas.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de

In article <1993Jan5.151724.1969@mail.cornell.edu>, Ray Zimmerman
<rz10@cornell.edu> wrote:
> In article <1993Jan5.021636.14018@kronos.arc.nasa.gov> Eric A. Raymond,
> raymond@kronos.arc.nasa.gov writes:
> >We just did a quick test of MacX version 1.1.7 and it seems
> >to work under system 7.1.  I thought one needed to upgrade to 1.2?
> Try creating a new command or changing the host for an existing command.
> You can't can't do it.  I'm currently using MacX 1.1.7 under 7.1 and
> it's working OK since I already have things set up.  But if I need to
> change the host for a command I'm stuck.  (Guess I could reboot
> under an old system just to edit the host).
Which version of MacTCP do you use, 1.1 or 1.1.1?

Thomas Diessel
Federal Armed Forces University, Munich
Computer Science Department
Werner-Heisenberg-Weg 39, W-8014 Neubiberg, Germany
From: goodman@equinox.unr.edu (Dr. Philip Goodman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Any Comm Program w/ multiple windows?
Date: 8 Jan 93 07:13:55 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno


I connect by modem with my University's internet node, since my
office is located off campus.

I've been using SmartcomII, but am very frustrated by not being
able to have more than 1 view of the information that has accumulated
during the session. I often wish to go back to retrieve text 
(eg, anon ftp info) but must now guess the location, and repeatedly
return to the active cursor to paste and observe the effects.

Is there any high-level commun package with multiple windows, or
at least a split-screen? And if so, does the program allow text
to be edited above the active cursor?

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Phil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: foo26860@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (KGBishop)
Subject: Anyone ever heard of Applelink?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:54:25 GMT

Has anyone ever heard of this?  It's supposed to be a nation-wide apple
network.

My real question is:
How does one access it from the Internet system?

btw i think applelink requires that you subscribe to use it...
*shrug*

KGBishop@uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Tom Sheppard <toms@bnr.ca>
Subject: Ethernet and LocalTalk drops cause problems?
X-Xxdate: Tue, 5 Jan 93 15:29:36 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ltd.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d16
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:27:54 GMT

My network folks just unceremoniously disconnected my LocalTalk 
connection because I already had an Ethernet drop.  I used the LocalTalk 
connection as a backup when the Ethernet went down.  It was also useful 
for establishing network connections when booting from a system floppy 
which does not have the Ethernet driver.

The reason given for the disconnection was that it caused other people's 
chooser to "bounce around", whatever that means.  I've selected the 
EtherTalk driver in the Network control panel so I would expect that the 
LocalTalk connection would be dormant.

Does it matter whether the LocalTalk cable is connected to the Mac or 
not? (mine was left connected)

Does having a dormant connection cause problems?

Any insight into this would be appreciated.  I would like to make a case for 
leaving the LocalTalk drop around.  But I will certainly give it up if it is 
a valid source of problems.  I'm somewhat skeptical since I've had it 
connected that way for about *3 years* without reported problems.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tom Sheppard     Bell-Northern Research Ltd. "Got a minute..."
613-763-4053 [W] P.O. Box 3511, Station C    Translation: I'm about to dump
613-763-8312 [F] Ottawa, Ontario, Canada     a major headache in your lap.
toms@bnr.ca      K1Y 4H7                     ...Sally Forth comic strip
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Distribution: world
From: Sean_S._Lee@uu0570.foggybottom.com
Organization: Foggy Bottom / Washington, D.C.
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 00:21:15 EST
Subject: Shareware Multi-session term...

Are there lot's of shareware multi-session terminal program for the Mac?

I've seen a few like MacLayer and UW but I don't know how to use them...
Seems to need a server on the UNIX side...
I've got the code (untarred painfully) but I haven't gotten into the deep side
of compiling on UNIX...

Help please?

And how do you use the 'tar' command? I had to d/l the file, untar it using a
Mac tar program... then u/l the whole bunch of files back up...
I tried playing around with the 'tar x filename' command but it constantly
said that a certain directory wasn't present...

Help please?

        Sean_S._Lee@foggybottom.com
Foggy Bottom - your FirstClass Mac connection in Washington, DC

Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.comm:12795 comp.os.vms:20682
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Want a Mac front end for VMS Mail
From: don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes)
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:34:43 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Wolery

jwa@vipunen.hut.fi (Jyrki J Wahlstedt) writes:
>   According to a Digital catalogue they have a product called DEC MAILworks
>   for Mac that does just that. To use it you need PATHWORKS, though (that
>   may not be a bad idea anyway).

Pathworks for Mac includes a mail client which looks a lot like a Mac-ified
DECwindows mail.  I'd probably use it if I was using a Mac exclusively in
a Pathworks environment.  

At VUW, we use Eudora, which is a POP3 client.  We run (I think -- ask
Andrew.Greer@vuw.ac.nz for further info) IUPOP3 under VMS as a server. 
(We have unix based POP3 servers as well.)  Eudora is quite a sweet little
interface, and it is _free_.  You need MacTCP on the Macs and a TCP/IP
implementation on the VMS end (we've had this running under (ugh!) UCX).

--
Don Stokes, ZL2TNM (DS555)                        don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (home)
Network Manager, Computing Services Centre            don@vuw.ac.nz (work)
Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand              +64-4-495-5052
From: eabu288@orion.oac.uci.edu (Alvin)
Subject: GEnie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: 12 Jan 93 08:00:21 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm


does anyone know how to send emails to users at GEnie?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: gpb@gpb-mac (greg berryman )
Subject: Re: MacTCp 1.1.1 ?
Organization: SPS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:27:13 GMT

mixterhp@appstate.edu (Perry Mixter) writes:
: In article <1993Jan6.085223.119709@marshall.wvnet.edu>,
: gary@marshall.wvnet.edu (gary's news) wrote:
: > 
: > Where can one order MacTCp 1.1.1 ??
: > 
: It WAS in the Gator demo on info-mac/sumex archives, but I looked there
: this morning (1/6/93) and it was gone!  I also looked in the other archive
: site mentioned here in previous posts, and the Xgator demo did NOT include
: any version of MacTCP 1.1.1.
: 
: Anyone have clues to this mystery? Did someone wise up and pull these off
: the net due to copywrite problems??  Help!

It's not free software.  See your local Apple dealer to buy it.
BTW, don't upgrade to 7.1 if you use MacTCP 1.1 until you buy 1.1.1, it
won't work with 1.1

Greg.

--
My words, not Motorola's.   * ______ *
gpb@gpb-mac.sps.mot.com     * \ BI / * I will NOT ride in the back of the bus.
Greg Berryman (512)928-6014 *  \  /  *         SILENCE = DEATH
Motorola Austin, Texas, USA *   \/   *     First, be true to yourself.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.appletalk
From: add@is.rice.edu (Arthur Darren Dunham)
Subject: EtherNet cards for 030 slot (or NuBus for that matter)
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Rice University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:39:13 GMT

Due to some recent problems with some Asante cards (system errors when
using the network, improper port selection on 3 ports...) I would like
to try another vendors wares.  Asantes have the advantage of cheap price
and easy configuration.  I would be willing to try another card, but it
must come in both an 030 direct and NuBus version, and it must be
register compatible with Apple's (like Asante is) so I can use System 7
for EtherTalk installation.

Can someone else tell me who might make a relatively inexpensive card
that can do this?

Thanks,
-- 
Darren Dunham                 		          add@is.rice.edu
MicroConsultant                       		  Rice University
(What is that? A small consultant?)	              Houston, TX
Any resemblance between real opinions and my post is coincidental
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacTCP/Domain Name server question
From: hammett@sbsu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Tim Hammett)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:22:58 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner) writes:

>In article <1993Jan6.163640.1@bcvms.bc.edu>, eileen@bcvms.bc.edu wrote:
>> behaviour, and is there any way to get MacTCP to recognize a secondary name 
>> server that it will use to resolve all names?
>
>Enter your default domain in the first domain box, list the address of your
>primary DNS, and click the default button.

Dumb question: is one meant to fully qualify the default domain name
by putting a dot at the end of it, or not? I'm a bit confused about the
difference between, say:

aukuni.ac.nz.   and
aukuni.ac.nz

Where is it appropriate to use each form of notation & where is it not
appropriate? Thanks in advance!
   --- Tim.

--
Tim Hammett, Botany Dept, Auckland University, New Zealand.
t.hammett@aukuni.ac.nz   Phone: +64-9-373-7599 x8365    FAX: +64-9-373-7416
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