HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ae631@yfn.ysu.edu (David Moore)
Subject: Re: TOSU vs UC (OSU Fans Plse Read)
Reply-To: ae631@yfn.ysu.edu (David Moore)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:14:14 GMT

In a previous article, atchison@harp.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison) 
>In article <Bvs8nx.B5t@ucunix.san.uc.edu> mooredb@ucunix.san.uc.edu (David Brian Moore) writes:
>>TOSU fans:
>> Is there any talk in Columbus about a possible UC - OSU home and home series?
>>I know that there is a lot of interest down here, but OSU has resisted coming
>>to Cincinnati to play. Last year UC tried to "bribe" OSU into a home and home
>>series by offering extra tickets to OSU for the NCCA regional game in 
>>Cincinnati (where OSU played) but the offer was rejected, and the NCAA made
>>UC pay a $25,000 dollar fine after the OSU A.D. turned them in.. I thought
>>it was kinda funny, but apparently OSU did not... A lot of people think that UC
>>(UCINN!!?) has the best team in Ohio, and would like the chance to prove it.
>
>While it would admittedly make for a great rivalry for the fans (at least with
>the 2 programs in their current states), I think that it's highly unlikely 
>that Ayers and company would see it as a good move.  The Big 10 1/2 already
>provides a greuling 18 game stretch, and a yearly non-conference battle would
>be pretty tough.  
>
>Why not prove you're the best team in the Midwest, and join the Big, Bigger,
>Biggest 10?	


The BIG ten is a very competitve league, but I think from a money making
standpoint the Great Midwest with its large TV markets may be more
attractive. There is a lot of talk that the Great Midwest may announce as 
early as January additional teams which will be joining. Recently the
Cincinnati Enquirer listed Temple, Rutgers, West Virgina and George
Washington as the likely additions. Also, UC Football would not
be ready for the Big Ten, or most any other conference....


 
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From: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: Rashard Griffith update
Reply-To: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:09:49 GMT


In article <1992Oct6.110426.979@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
|> Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
|> Path: ryn.mro4.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!news.crl.dec.com!deccrl!caen!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!doug.cae.wisc.edu!luther.che.wisc.edu!saunders
|> From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
|> Subject: Re: Rashard Griffith update
|> Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
|> Date: 6 Oct 92 11:04:25 CDT
|> Message-ID: <1992Oct6.110426.979@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
|> References: <19881@ector.cs.purdue.edu> <19882@ector.cs.purdue.edu> <1992Oct6.131241.4229@pmafire.inel.gov>
|> Lines: 22
|> 
|> In article <1992Oct6.131241.4229@pmafire.inel.gov> wrl@pmafire.inel.gov (William Lechner) writes:
|> >In article <19882@ector.cs.purdue.edu> sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin) writes:
|> >>}} In article <19881@ector.cs.purdue.edu> gritter@cs.purdue.EDU (Carl R. Gritter) writes:
|> >>}} 
|> >>}} [ Carl lists five ways in which Keady frees up a scholarship for
|> >>}}   Rashard Griffith ]
|> >>
|> >>6. Cornelius McNary ties himself up and immolates himself on a burning
|> >>pyre, apparently despondent over recent removal of campus landmark,
|> >>the old smokestack, thereby releasing scholarship.  Gene Keady is
|> >>later seen trying to scrub a faint smell of kerosene and garlic from
|> >>his hands.
|> >>
|> >Does the removal of the smokestack mean there are no more virgins at
|> >Purdue?
|> 
|> I don't know, but I sure as hell was trying to plan a trip down to West
|> Lafayette this semester.  All those women running around trying to lose
|> their virginity.  Wow!  I bet that cement lion never roars again...
|> -- 
|> 
|> Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

OK already.  Go ahead and post the Purdue Virginity jokes.  Every school
must have one of these.  At Illinois, the geeks who do orientation slide
in the joke for students (when the parents are missing) that the woman in
the Alma Mater statue sits down in the throne every time a virgin walks by.

I just want to know how the freshman are going to find there way back to 
the dorms with the smokestack gone.  I know that the checkerboard watertower
served as a guiding beacon to the Alpha Sig house on many a drunken road trip
to visit Harry's Chocolate Shop or Edo's slimy beer pit and loud music hall.

Murph
From: sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Date: 9 Oct 92 03:45:45 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University


IU/Purdue has to be among the best.  Don't let those UK boys fool you;
Bobby Knight would lose to UK by 100 if he could guarantee sweeping
Purdue.

An interesting sidelight is that this rivalry holds in everything from
football to basketball to tiddly-winks.  It seems that many of the
other big rivalries are restricted to one sport.

And by the way, I've just used up the last of my Incredible
Overstatements, and am about to run out of Indefensible Assertions and
Sweeping Generalizations.  When does T-Bone make a run to northern
Indiana?

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
                             Aye, I like her eyes!

                      Beef:  Real food for a dead planet.
From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Summary: Maybe, maybe not.
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:36:25 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Rice University

In article <1992Oct9.112934@mccall.com> scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis) writes:
>
>In article <5922@news.duke.edu>, trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:
>>How about:
>>  Kansas-Missouri (the range war)
>
>Kansas-KansasSt

Nah.  Rice-Texas is turning into a biannual firefight.  (It's definitely
more intense when it's played down here at the Autry Breadbox. :-)

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From: furesz_t@wums.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: St. Mary's University
Date: 7 OCT 92 09:18:24 GMT
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
NNTP-Posting-Host: msnews.wustl.edu

Does anybody have the scoop on the upcoming season for St. Mary's.  The
NAIA power is hard to follow from STL.  If anyone has any news about
new players (transfers, high schoolers) or schedules or anything else
for that matter please email me.  I am not a regular reader of this
group.  Thanks in advance.

Todd
From: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:54:29 GMT
Reply-To: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

In article <718988631@termite.cs.duke.edu>, db@duke.cs.duke.edu (Dov Bulka) writes:
>Tar Heels owned this conference
>from the mid 70's to the late 80's. I think they won 11 out
>of possible 15 ACC championships during that era or something
>ridiculous like that.

Well, not quite.  From 1976 to 1988, the Heels won 9 of 13 regular season
titles(including two ties), but only four ACC tourney championships.
They're still the dominant ACC team overall, with 15 regular season and 
12 ACC tourney titles, compared to 10 & 9 for Duke and 7 & 10 for NCSU.
No one else is even close.  But UNC's longest period between ACC titles
(since 67) is only seven years, so they tend to be a fairly constant
annoyance. 
  Personally, I think it was that damned 4 corners that Dean used to run
that turned so many people off! :-)  
	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
"Where was that contract negotiated, the Forum parking lot?"
 --Pete Vecsey, on Lakers GM Jerry West giving Anthony Peeler a 10 yr. contract
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From: thmpsnmc@tomcat7.Berkeley.EDU (Milton C. Thompson)
Subject: Attempt 2, KU gets Jacque Vaughn
Reply-To: thmpsnmc@tomcat7.Berkeley.EDU (Milton C. Thompson)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:52:05 GMT

	Since my first attempt to post this news seems to have failed I would like to
	post the following GOOD NEWS.  The University of Kansas has received a
	commitment from a top ten player, Jacque Vaughn.  Vaughn is a 4.0 honors
	student and sould compete immediately for the starting point guard spot
	next year with Calvin Rayford.  KU will continue to have guard play after
	Jordon leaves.  

	In other news my source tells me that Wallace seems to be up in the air on
	his visit.  This is disappointing but it appears that we still have a very good
	shot at Pollard.

			Craig Thompson


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From: Michael.Bohl@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Michael Bohl)
Subject: Duke-Michigan Tickets Wanted
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 01:05:16 GMT

If anyone would like to part with 2 tickets to this pre-season game being
held in Durham, NC, I am in need of them.  As you can imagine tickets are
hard to come by here in Durham.  

Thanks.

Mike B.

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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:18:30 GMT
Keywords: Ala/Ark

gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris) writes:

>	Yeah, we all know you can only root for the schools you post from around
>here.  Why, Jazzy J would never dream of rooting for Kentucky, and I myself
>bleed...uh...what are Tufts` colors?

	ME?  A KENTUCKY FAN?  Of course not!  :)

	Jazzy J
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From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:43:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: jade.1992Oct13.184315.7234
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Originator: gharris@jade.tufts.edu

In article <718988631@termite.cs.duke.edu> db@duke.cs.duke.edu (Dov Bulka) writes:
>
>There's another reason. On a recent visit to the Dean Dome
>I was astounded by the number of ACC championship banners
>hanging from the rafters. The Tar Heels owned this conference
>from the mid 70's to the late 80's. I think they won 11 out
>of possible 15 ACC championships during that era or something
>ridiculous like that.

	Actually, part of this is artificial banner inflation.  UNC has always
hung an ACC Championship banner, even if they lose in the conference tourney,
if they finished first or tied for first in the regular season.  When that
happens, they put, in small print at the bottom of the banner "regular season."
Of course, this isn't a conference championship, but UNC tries to count it as
one.

>Dov
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George W. Harris                chance in the world, and stomped ever one 
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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Dickie V's guide (was: Street and Smith Issue)
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:01:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

james.f.whitehead writes:
>
>Vitale's guide is about as good as his TV commentary, only you have
>to pay for it. If you want information bordering on an obsession with
>trivia (and you ARE reading this group, after all) get the Blue Ribbon book.
>It comes out about mid-November and is more up-to-date and detailed than
>S&S, etc.
>
Pardon. I read this group for anthropological reasons. 
By the way, just what is a "woof"? And how does one pronounce "!!!"? 

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From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Vitale's Basketball Rag
Date: 15 Oct 1992 18:41:53 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

>> All-Conference Team:
>> F - Calbert Cheaney, Sr., IU
>> F - Chris Webber, So., Michigan  (DJW - finally, somebody got it right)
>> C - Acie Earl, Sr. Iowa  (DJW - this is his year)
>> G - Jalen Rose, So., Michigan
>> G - Tracy Webster, Jr., Wisconsin
>
   I gotta admit to being kinda surprised that Webster made this list. The 
   people in Madison know this kid's a serious talent, but I wasn't sure if
   anybody else did. I still think, for some odd reason, Vitale has a soft
   spot in his heart for Wisconsin.

   --salty
From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Dickie V's guide (was: Street and Smith Issue)
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:08:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvrGyt.35y
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

jfw1@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (james.f.whitehead) writes:


>Vitale's guide is about as good as his TV commentary, only you have
>to pay for it. If you want information bordering on an obsession with
>trivia (and you ARE reading this group, after all) get the Blue Ribbon book.
>It comes out about mid-November and is more up-to-date and detailed than
>S&S, etc.

	I would also highly recommend this book.  If anyone's seen the
	Sporting News' Pro Basketball preview book, this is the collegiate
	version.  Profiles on every player on every major team -- even the
	walk-ons!  A great resource of information.  In fact, this very 
	book is the book I used a great deal in writing up all those 
	scouting reports last year for rec.sport.basketball.pro's mock
	draft.  If I didn't know something about a player, I could simply
	look it up in the book.  It is a bit expensive, however ($19.95),
	but it's well worth the $.

	Jazzy J
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From: as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Alabama?
Date: 16 Oct 1992 05:00:33 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Just curious, who replaced Wimp down in Bama?  What big shoes to fill!

Mike
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From: rcbaker@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Bob Baker)
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Keywords: Ala/Ark
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:14:35 GMT

[much stuffy talk of the IU-Purdue rivalry deleted]

While the fact that the IU-Purdue game has got to be one of the
biggest rivalries in college hoop (bigger than Oberlin - Wooster!),
I've never seen more intensity than the NC State-UNC matchup last
year.

After beating the highly regarded Tar Heels in Reynolds, the
State fans went BEZERK in the neighborhoods surrounding the
university, including my front porch (I was living behind the
McDonald's on Hillsborough at the time).  Except for the '87
championship year, I can't remember the fans of my beloved Hoosiers
losing it in quite the manner that the Wolfpack gang did.

DISCLAIMER:
I DESPISE NC State.  I personally feel that the only reason the fans
exploded the way they did is that they attend a cultural wasteland of
a university where there is NOTHING else to do but watch hoops and
read the News and Observer.  So, I'm not on their side...I'm merely
reporting what I saw.

Awaiting hate mail,
Bob

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From: sms35849@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott M. Stortzum)
Subject: Vitale's Basketball Rag
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:59:17 GMT

Illinois was ranked higher than Indiana that year because Illinois swept
the season series.  The game in Indiana was won on a Nick Anderson 30-footer
with 1 second left.  I still get chills up my spine when I watch that replay
and listen to the announcers.

Later Days,
Scott

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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:07:37 GMT
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

Wittenberg-Oberlin

-- 
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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: Annual Prediction...
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:23:36 GMT
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

Cliff Slaughterbeck writes:
>Jeff Davis writes:
>>Charles Richter writes:
>>>> You should try to justify this assertion.
>>>
>>>This is rec.sport.basketball.college.  There's no place for that kind of
>>>talk here!
>>
>>Right. All of the rec.sport groups were created under a proof-by-
>>shouting charter. They pass out free exclamation points, or did when
>>I subscribed, when you first post. However, I hardly ever use mine and
>>now my desk is littered with them. I am running low, though, on
>>Snide Remarks, Pointless Jibes, and Adolescent Venom and could
>>use a refill. Does anyone know if the supply truck will come around
>>before Thanksgiving?
>
>Don't forget Sniveling Sentences and Whining Retorts.  They seem to be 
>in especially short supply.  You don't suppose T-bone stole the truck
>when he took off, do you?

I seem to be over stocked on Snivelling Sentences. Does any Duke fan
want to swap some for about half a paragraph of Fatuous Hauteur?

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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Big-10 Schedules
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Distribution: usa
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:52:36 CDT

In article <1992Oct8.142615.3458@cbnews.cb.att.com> ddn@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.d.nason) writes:
>
>As long as we're on the subject of schedules, let me say that there
>sure are a bunch of weenie non-conference schedules.  Looks like the
>Big-10 will be beating up on the likes of Central Connecticuit (Conn.
>isn't big enough to have a Central, is it?), New Hampshire,
>So. Illinois-Edwardsville, Bethune-Cookman, Mount St. Mary's,
>Chaleston Southern, and the list goes on and on.

Well, it looks like you've been looking at Wisconsin's schedule!  The two
toughest teams that Bucky will play are Marquette (there) and
Wisconsin-Milwaukee.
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From: lowood@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Henry Lowood)
Subject: Re:    How much is the NIT title worth?
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:56:02 GMT

In article <92290.092806U52809@uicvm.uic.edu> Chuck Amsler <U52809@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>I small "discussion" has started about NIT titles being a kind of
>National Championship.  Clearly, at one time the NIT was as or even
>more prestigious than the NCAA, but that was a long time ago when
>the NCAA tourney was fairly new.  IMHO, it is absurd to call a
>"modern" NIT title a "national championship", but I wonder just

Well, if you ask anyone for their most vivid memory of college basketball
in the 1990s, they are almost certain to cite Stanford's taking of the 
national championship (*) from perennial power Oklahoma last year.  What
better proof of this than the fact that people on this very board are 
still carrying on the discussion 18 months later?   

(*)  At least, I didn't use Caps.  

Henry
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Wisconsin schedule
Date: 8 Oct 1992 19:23:53 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

  I am one of the many who has noticed that UW's schedule resembles a menu
  from Dolly Madison. However, I don't think it's the fault of Stu Jackson.
  This year's schedule was already made out before Jackson was hired. Talking
  to UW-Milwaukee head coach Steve Antrim, he told me that a UW vs. UW-Mil.
  matchup would've never happened while Yoder was around. I'm not exactly
  sure about this, but I was under the impression that Jackson dropped a game
  with Morehead St. (or Morehouse, whatever) so that this intrastate rivalry
  could get off the ground. Seeing that UW-Green Bay has a home-and-home
  series with UW-Milwaukee and that UW-GB is also playing UW, this should be
  an interesting year for Wisconsin roundball fans. Now if the chicken-shit
  guys from downtown Milwaukee (Marquette) would start playing UWM and UW-GB,
  we could crown a true state champion!!

  --salty

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From: atchison@lagoon.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison)
Subject: Re: Ohio State preview (LONG)
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:08:48 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.182759.3970@cbnews.cb.att.com> ddn@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.d.nason) writes:
>In article <DOEL.92Oct7094429@bbq.bae.bellcore.com> doel@bae.bellcore.com (Michael Doel) writes:
>>
>>be old news to some.  Also, I'm assuming that Joe Reid will not be with the
>>team this year.  Someone posted that he had transferred.  Can anyone
>>confirm that?
>
>The only official word that has come out is that Reid is academically
>ineligible.  There is much speculation about him transferring and the like, but
>it's just speculation at this point.
>

About 2 weeks or so back, Randy Ayers announced that he, Joe Reid, and Joe's
parents had mutually agreed that it was in Joe's best interests to transfer.

The school is not yet named, but the scholarship *is* unclaimed.

GO BUCKS!!!
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