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From: ebrahim@ee.umanitoba.ca (Mohamad Ebrahimi)
Subject: Re: A PLEA FOT HELP>>>>PLEASE READ
Organization: Elect & Comp Engineering, U of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba,Canada
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 23:05:44 GMT

In article: <1992Dec23.142343.4321@wvnvms.wvnet.edu> mohag@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
writes:


>Hello Everybody:
>	This is a requst for help. A much needed help. First the Story:
>About 45 days ago, a helicopter carrying 13 Iranian professionals (Most
>were employees of MAHAB Company, a mining company in Iran, and some Uni-
>versity Professors) was disappeared around Khoozestan. Since then, Iran 
>has only broadcast the above news without much detail. The efforts on 
>finding the remains of the helicopter (in case of a crash) has not been
>successful. It seems for whatever reason extensive efforts have been 
>concentrated on finding the remains of the chopper. At the same time 
>families of the people in the helicopter are on the verge of nervous
>break down (can you imagine what they are going through?). They had been
>told by friends, that "Voice of America"(VOA) and "Radio Israel"(RI)
>have reported (sometime around same date) that an Iranian helicopter
>has been sighted to land on Iraqi land. This was some relief for the 
>families (It meant they are still alive). In a contact with Farsi
>section of (VOA) they denied ever reporting such matter. Efforts 
>to contact (RI) has not been successful. Efforts to get some help
>from Associated Press (AP) was not successful either. AP will not help
>those who are not subscribers, and one can not subscribe unless he/she 
>is a journalist. AP told me that I might be able to look at the news
>that was on the wire at those days if I have access to "dialog" which
>is a commercial computer network.  Since then I have not been able to 
>get any lead on how to get access to "dialog". 
>	So DEAR FRIENDS,  on behalf of the families of the victoms
>of this incident, I would like to beg your cooperation in finding
>any information on this matter. You may send your replies to :
>shahab@petrocom.comer.wvu.wvnet.edu   or post it here, that I will
>regularly check. Any Info., no matter how small and unimportant
>it may seem to you, might help, PLEASE Dd bring all of us together,
>                THANK ALL OF YOU>>>>this might be an effort that
>                                    couldto bring all of us together
>                                    and make this news group a 
>
>                                    place that made a change.



         Around the same time, there were some reports that MKO news-phones
     in Europe have anounced that their forces have shot down two 
     Iranian helicopters inside the Khoozastan province.

         Maybe these democratic-anti-imperialist-Iranian-people-loving
     -freedom-fighting-non-interfering-most-educated-army, etc., can
     shed some light on this sad and tragic accident.

Mohammad
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Telex from Iranian Opposition Group regarding Bosnia [sci-anon-poster]
Date: 2 Jan 1993 02:38:47 GMT
Organization: Notgheh MajjAni, Inc.
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Subject: Telex from Iranian Opposition Group regarding Bosnia

The following is the text of a telegram sent to Pope John Paul II
by Dr Mehdi Bazargan and Dr Ebrahim Yazdi, regarding the crisis in
Bosnia-Herzegovina. The two are leading members of the Iranian
opposition group, the Liberation Movement of Iran. The letter was
sent in mid-November. It is notable in that it indicates that support
for Bosnia-Herzegovina in Iran is strong not only from the extremist
regime in Tehran, but also from the most active democratic
opposition group in that country.


To His Holiness Pope John Paul II

The tragedy of human suffering in Bosnia-Herzegovina has
reached a level unheard of in recent history, rivalling that
of Nazi Germany. Entire communities are being systematically
eliminated in an overt act of genocide, based solely on their
ethnic and religious identity, yet international institutions
show indifference and apathy.

On behalf of the Liberation Movement of Iran and the people
of Iran, we condemn these crimes committed by Serbs in the
name of protecting Christianity, and also the lack of
effective action by international institutions.

We request that your holiness exert all power invested in the
Papal office to stop these shameful acts.

Jesus Christ, may God's peace and blessings be upon him, is
the messenger of God's peace and love for all mankind. As we
approach the season celebrating his miraculous birth, let us
work to end the suffering of God's innocent servants and make
this for them a season of peace.

M Bazargan, Former Prime Minister
E Yazdi, Former Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for
Foreign Affairs
The Islamic Republic of Iran

November 20, 1992
81 Ghazzali Street
Tehran, Islamic Republic of Iran

 
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From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: UsUsing real names (a request)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 00:30:17 GMT

majidi@rwja.umdnj.edu (Masoud Majidi) writes:

>Salam bar Doostan,
>
>I follow more than 15 newsgroups regularly, sci being one of them. Each 
>newsgroup has a group of regular contributers and sci is certainly not an 
>exception. However I think sci is different from any other newsgroup in 
>that most its contributors don't use their real names.

What does the "real name" of a poster have to do with his/her/its
opinion? Name, real or otherwise, is at most only a tool helping us
communicate with one another. As long as one is consistent in using a
name/phrase to identify him/her/itself (e.g. Agha Javad, Satan,
Cowboy, Haji Firooz, Amoojoon, Mash Cheragh Ali, etc.)  I don't see
why there should be a problem.

>I would say more than half of the articles posted to this newsgroup are posted
>either anonymously or posted by people who don't use their real names. I was
>reading an article posted by 'Haji Firooz' this morning in which he/she had
>tried to make peace between 'Satan' and 'Agha Javad'!!  I don't know how
>the rest of people feel but I would much rather follow a serious discussion 
>between Behzad and Babak than a discussion between 'Satan' and 'Haji Firooz' 

That's only your opinion, and you're entitled to it. Some others may
wish to follow a discussion based solely upon the contents of that
discussion, and regardless of the name(s) of the poster(s).

For all it matters, Satan could be a "Ali Hosseini", Haji Firooz could
be a "Mahmood Alavi" and Agha Javad could be a "Hossein Mahmoodi".
What difference would it possibly make?

>even though I don't know any of them, and this is irrespective
>of the subject of the discussion! (All names are given just as examples and
>in fact I appreciate Haji Firooz's effort to put an end to some of the
>nonsense shouting exchanges on this public forum)

Bravo! You took the words out of my mouth!

>In short I don't know want to read into this current trend. I used to
>think that people were scared to voice their political opinions and that
>is why they wouldn't use their names but obvioiusly I was wrong (a couple of
>weeks ago somebody posted a recipe anonymously!). If anyone has any theory
>explaining this (which again I think is unique to sci) please let me know.
>Otherwise please try to use your real names.
>
>Be Brave, use your real name!
>
>Masoud Majidi                           Internet: majidi@umdnj.edu

You are one fearless man!!!
Oh, and for humor impaired:   :-) 

    --mack [may or may not be my real name]
From: anoosh@mips.com (Anoosh Hosseini)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Iranian things in Hawaii??
Date: 23 Dec 1992 17:03:37 GMT
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In article <92352.235433U33720@uicvm.uic.edu> U33720@uicvm.uic.edu (Fardad k.) writes:
>hello;
>
>    Does anyone know about any Iranian resturants in Hawaii?
>specifically MAUI?
>
>    Any other iranian 'things' ?
>
>I'll be there next week.
>Fardad

Nothing Iranian in Maui. (good or bad). I caught a total of
3 couples vacationing there at the Sheration.  I wasn't trying
to find any, but while snorkeling, I suddenly heard a familiar 
sounding language...

"BIYAH INJA XXXX, YEK MAHI-HAYI DAREH !!!" :-)


-anoosh
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From: >>>>>> Anonymous
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: re:Haji Firouz [sci-anon-poster]
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:05:34 GMT
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To: sci-anon-poster



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 haji,
	I don't know howcome a guy as "beemaze" as you, became a
Haji firouz.

a not so amused fellow countryman
 
 
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From: asghar@me.eng.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Re: CBS News and Mojahedin
Originator: harrsen@rainier.eng.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University 
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 22:13:32 GMT

In article <ETXMAJZ.92Dec27134657@solsta-c.solsta.ericsson.se> etxmajz@solsta-c.solsta.ericsson.se (Majid Zolfaghari  TX/DKG) writes:
>
>I can complete the question:
>Why an "anti-imperialist" group is so honored when it meets the president
>or other authorities of the "imperialist"? Especially when just 1 year
>ago, MKO was ready to fight against U.S. under the "Gulf War".
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The above is absolutely false. For the 1000 times, no
resource of either NLA or Mojahedin have ever been (or will
ever be) used except to fight the current illegitimate and
the illegal regime in Iran. I suggest whenever you see a
news item which in any way contradicts this fundamental
principle, you recheck your source and be very suspicious of
it. 

If anything, the Gulf War showed the independence of
Mojahedin by being totally neutral in the matter. After all,
we did not create the mess and certainly were not going to
pay for it in any way. 

As for being anti-imperialist, it should be only looked at
in the context of Iran. Secondly, meeting the
President-elect neither makes Mr. clinton pro Mojahedin nor
makes the Mojahedin pro US. They only thing that it
indicates is that both sides consider each other important. The
fact is that US and Iranian people have mutual interests. A
democratic and stable Iran is good for the world as well as
Iranians. 
 
>
>Regards,
>
>Majid Zolfaghari

Asghar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sharam@ole.cdac.com (Sean Namazi)
Subject: Re: NBC Nightly News, Tue. Dec. 22nd
Organization: Cascade Design Automation, Bellevue, WA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:22:54 GMT

In article <saied.725063150@cwis> saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:

... (deleted)

Sir,

Let me say this one more time.  I'm not a khomeini appologist, but I have
mentioned this before and I'll say it again.  You people (MKO) make no sense.

>With respect to Saudi's waste of money on arms: well, I am from
>Iran and thus concerned about the people of Iran. In addition,
>unlike you, I am not nosey about and would not like to interfer
>in the affairs of other countries.

You say I'm from Iran and I don't care about other countries.  So why is it
that when it comes to other countries expressing concern about Iran, it is 
all of a sudden "o.k"?  How can you say you have no concern about what 
happened in Iraq two years ago?  I'm sure you have no problem with the same 
thing happening to Iran (200,000 dead, infrastructure destroyed) just to get
you people in power.

>Hey Brad, there are a lot of problems with your society. Why
>don't you begin doing something about it instead of spending
>your time justifying the policies of the terrorist, repressive
>Khomeini regime?

Agreed 100%.  Believe me, If that was to be the case, this world would be a 
much better place.  But again, why should this only apply to anybody who 
doesn't support your ideas?  Why shouldn't the same stand for the thugs in 
the U.S congress whom you claim are supporting you?  
Now honestly (what a joke), Do you really think that all the organizations
that are supposedly supporting  you, really have you and the people of Iran's
interest in mind or do they feel that there is something in it for themselves?
(as it is the case 99% of the time).

Please think about the kind of garbage you put out, and maybe for once make
some sense.


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From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: UsUsing real names (a request)
Date: 29 Dec 92 23:51:06 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
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In article <1762@rwja.umdnj.edu> majidi@rwja.umdnj.edu (Masoud Majidi) writes:
>
>Salam bar Doostan,
>
>I follow more than 15 newsgroups regularly, sci being one of them. 

wow!  how do you get any work done masoud!?  i can barely keep up
with just sci!!

[ stuff deleted ]

>If anyone has any theory
>explaining this (which again I think is unique to sci) please let me know.
>Otherwise please try to use your real names.

i can apreciate your point of view masoud, hoewever i must admit that
i rather enjoy all these colorful 'masked' characters on sci.  they
add a unique and valueable dimension to sci.  from amoojoon to haji,
to nonexistent afghanis created by babak, to even satan - they all
speak volumes for the category of people/points of view/beliefs they 
represent.  what would sci be without amoo?  what would sci be without
ali baba to remind us of the mentality we're dealing with back in
iran?  the issue here is not why, but rather that without the disguise,
these people would simply not voice their thots.  between absence and 
disguised presence, ill always take the latter.

as to *why* they choose to be disguised, who knows and more importantly
imho, who *cares*.  some have obvious reservations due to the
allah-blessed terrorist behaviour of iri coupled with the fact that
many of their talabehs read sci.  others are here illegally (ins-wise)
and do not want to air their names and work addresses on a popular
computer network.  some dont want to take the chance of being publicly
flamed or slandered.  some have appeared on 'IRI's Most Wanted' (call
1-800-PAS-GARDANI if you recognize any; operators are standing by).
some enjoy 'character play'.  some suffer from sever
multiple-personality.  some are simply khejaalati and a disguise helps
them overcome the hurdle to 'speak' publicly... 

the one drawback that i confess posting anonymously or under false
names creates is that you lose the chance of being 'recognized' by
friends.  i have found several old highschool and gradeschool buddies,
and hamsAyehs (from iran) thru sci!

>Be Brave, use your real name!

in short, i dont think this is simply an issue of how 'brave' one
is.  many other legit concerns and interests factor in.  i 
know a couple of formerly disguised members who have come out of
the closet so to speak.  i wonder if they would have ever posted if
it wasnt for the 'trial' period behind their pen names.

>Masoud Majidi                           

so, whats your *real* name? ;-)

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: asghar@me.eng.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Re: CBS News and Mojahedin
Originator: harrsen@hood.eng.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University 
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 19:10:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.150425.2315@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.070048.13081@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi) writes:
>> asghar@me.eng.ohio-state.edu writes:
>> 
>>>Mojahedin's objective have always been to bring peace and
>>>democracy to Iran. 
>> 
>>>Asghar
>> 
>> 
>> The same poeple who have been spying for S.H. and C.I.A and having been 

>> Just another deep thought..... :)
>> 
>> 
>> Amir 
>
>you know, i have been reading this long and arduous argument between the
>mogahid supporter and the mugahid haters and a lot of accusations have been
>hurled one way and another. however have never seen any evidence that the
>mugahid (mojahid, whatever) are the saviours to iran? could the pro-mko's
>please present some evidence please? and could the anti-mko's please present
>their own? no accusations, evidence.
>
>
>sincerely
>zafar

I can't agree with you Zafar more. It has been an old ploy
used by tyrants and their supporters (directly or indirectly) to
discredit the progressive movements by calling them traitors
and/or try to suggest that they are linked to foreign
powers. The case of Dr. Mosadegh is a tragic example where the
ploy actually worked; leading to his down fall. 

The fact remains that no one has been able to show one
shred of evidence to question the independence of
Mojahedin. I claim that NCR (National Council of Resistance
which Mojahedin is a member) is the only democratic
alternative to the current dictatorship. The fact that over
the past couple of years on this network, any political
discussion dealt with Mojahedin and/or the regime attests to
this fact. We strongly believe that this regime (or any
subset of it) can not be reformed. Those who believe in such
faiy tales  (simply put) are fools at best and many of them
have ended up paying a dear price for their stupidity.
Ghasemloo and Bakhtiar are just two examples.

Whether Mojahedin are the "only savior of Iran" or not is a
NP-complete problem :) (only history can tell). Mojahedin
are doing the best that they can. Without a doubt, they will
never sell out to this regime (BaLeh: SaZeSh-NaPaZeeR). I
myself am socially liberal. I have examined and
followed the Mojahedin for the past decade. I am very
familiar with their values and believes. I am very much
convinced that they are committed to a democratic system in
Iran because they fundamentally believe that nothing else
will work. I fundamentally share their international
policies. Therefore as long as they stay the course, they
will have my full support. 

I hope those Iranian who think that Mojahedin are an
important factor, however have some serious questions about
them, contact them, read their publications and possibly
give them a hand (I can provide address and Phone number if
interested). I have found many of so called "quotes from 
Mojahedin" that have appeared in the publications of Shah and
Sheikh to be absolute lies.


Asghar
From: etxmajz@solsta-c.solsta.ericsson.se (Majid Zolfaghari  TX/DKG)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: CBS News and Mojahedin
Date: 28 Dec 92 14:32:48 GMT
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	<1992Dec27.221332.28549@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB, Karlstad, Sweden.


> >I can complete the question:
> >Why an "anti-imperialist" group is so honored when it meets the president
> >or other authorities of the "imperialist"? Especially when just 1 year
> >ago, MKO was ready to fight against U.S. under the "Gulf War".
>      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> The above is absolutely false. For the 1000 times, no
> resource of either NLA or Mojahedin have ever been (or will
			    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ever be) used except to fight the current illegitimate and
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> the illegal regime in Iran. I suggest whenever you see a
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> news item which in any way contradicts this fundamental
> principle, you recheck your source and be very suspicious of
> it. 

You try to answer a non-question again. What I said was that
"MKO was ready to fight ...". I do not say that they reallt did
it. Even irakis did not do it really. (It shows how empty such
anti-imperialist shouts are

> If anything, the Gulf War showed the independence of
> Mojahedin by being totally neutral in the matter. After all,
> we did not create the mess and certainly were not going to
> pay for it in any way. 
> 
> As for being anti-imperialist, it should be only looked at
> in the context of Iran. Secondly, meeting the
> President-elect neither makes Mr. clinton pro Mojahedin nor
> makes the Mojahedin pro US. They only thing that it
> indicates is that both sides consider each other important. The
> fact is that US and Iranian people have mutual interests. A
> democratic and stable Iran is good for the world as well as
> Iranians. 
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From: etxmajz@solsta-c.solsta.ericsson.se (Majid Zolfaghari  TX/DKG)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Re; AIDS in Iran [sci-anon-poster]
Date: 27 Dec 92 13:32:04 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB, Karlstad, Sweden.


Obviously I did not mean to be an anonymous poster. I posted (mailed)
my article to sci-poster@handel.sun.com but it appeared two times
on the net, once as an anonymous posting.
Something must be wrong!

Majid Zolfaghari
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