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From: Lenard.Diggins@launchpad.unc.edu (Lenard Diggins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: fresh piercing and intercourse
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:34:28 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <LUTZEB.93Jan8225427@flp.cs.tu-berlin.de> lutzeb@cs.tu-berlin.de (Dirk Lutzebaeck) writes:
>
>hi net.experienced,
>
>I read the FAQ but the following question is still unanswered to me:
>how long does it take before you can have regular intercourse or
>masturbate with your SO after getting pierced
>
>(a) through the foreskin?
>(b) through the labia?
>
>what's your experience? I don't like to be continent for 3 months
>after the piercing :) What's with hard-ons after getting pierced? Does
>it hurt?

i got my foreskin pierced about 10 months ago, and within 8 hours of
getting the piercing i masturbated.  i did so primarily b/c i was 
curious to see if i could and partly as a celebration of sorts.
there was very little pain in getting an erection and also little
pain at the point of ejaculation.

my initial foreskin piercing was done with two rings; and even though
i could get an erection, fucking was out of the question until i got to
the point where i had one big ring going through both holes.  it took
the better part of 6 months for me to get to that point, though i'm
sure you could manage to do so in half that amount of time.

Lenard (please send private mail to lenard@mcz.harvard.edu or
        diggins@husc.harvard.edu or ltd@world.std.com.  please
        *do not* send mail to oit.unc.edu as i only check this
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From: dmccrea6@mach1.wlu.ca (doug mccready F)
Subject: Re: home piercing...
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 12:46:44 GMT

Where does one find Manon de Source ou Jean de Florette?
From: dos@major.panix.com (Dave O'Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: good news and bad news...help!
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:55:22 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department

naf@ox.ac.uk (Neil Forrester) writes:

> 
> >> I love it and think it's absolutely beautiful.  However, I've been having
> >> graphic nightmares of my rig getting ripped out or sawing itself out of 
> >> my nipple.  Has anyone else experienced this with a piercing?  I think it'
> >> because I have this new thing hanging off a sensitive part of my body.
> 
> >Normal instinct, but doon't worry, you'll be fine. I simply take the
> >precaution of wearing a shirt when I'm going to lift something that
> >might get caught on 'em. (Or, I take them out, since I've had them for
> >several years.)
> 
> 
> As the "Home piercer" I'd like to add my 4 penneth.  I found that a little bi
> sticking plaster on the bottom of the ring itself (i.e. sticking it to the ch
> worked wonders for stopping the thing moving around too much in those sensiti
> first few weeks ....

Plaster? (shakes head) I can't picture spackling my nipples..
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From: hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd)
Subject: Re: good news and bad news...help!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:42:16 GMT

tom@cpac.washington.edu (Tom May) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.234848.10912@nevada.edu> clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb) writes:

>   So, what sizes are popular out there in net.land?

>My nipple ring is 1/2" ID (more like 9/16" ID with the bead installed).  I
>think a smaller one would actually look nicer, but the piercing itself is
>3/8" across.  What would be really cool is a 3/8" ring with a second,
>larger ring behind or above it in a separate piercing.  Anybody done
>anything like this?

I've seen it, I didn't like the way it looked since it really swole the
aroleus out and made it a bit too 3D (it was on a male, and I like my own
nipples to not remind me too much of small breasts) I thought.
-- 
Pete Hurd, hurd@sfu.ca| Q: Why did the Jungle Fowl cross the road?          |
Behavioural Ecology   | A: To maximize it's lifetime reproductive success   |
Dept.Biol.Sci., SFU.  | Q: Huh?                                             |
Burnaby B.C., Canada  | A: I guess it just needed to get to the other side. |
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From: tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (Jumpin Dude)
Subject: foot ink - was Re: nipple piecings
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 01:37:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.162212.28366@newstand.syr.edu> sldesroc@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Shannon L. Desroches) writes:
>
>I was in Vancouver, B.C. over the break, and tried to get a tatto on my foot.
>the artist refused, saying theat both foot, hand tattoos (oh, and bikini area
>tats) do not take ink well, and would look like (insert expletive) in a couple
>of years.  Hmmm.  I found this intriguing, as I have seen many hand and foot 
>tats by reputabel artists (Hankey Panky, Avalon Tattoo in San Diego, etc.)
>ANY input would be greatly appreciated, since I still want it done (or, rather,
>finished--it's a work in progress )  Would this only be applecable to fine-line
>stuff?  We're talking about below th  ankle.  

My artist also refused below the ankle. Reasons were the same, and he 
also noted that people squirm too much. Fine with me, mostly, until the
first time I looked at mine in a mirror - it looks too high. I'd like to
add _something_ uner/around it to make it appear not-so-high. Maybe having
something above it would work better, i'm not decided.

>--SHAN

Tim
From: bcorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: home piercing...
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:19:46 EDT
Organization: Hampshire College
NNTP-Posting-Host: hamp.hampshire.edu

Dear home piercer.  Congrats on a successful job.  I'v pierced my nose twice
myself.  The first time it got infected an I had to let it heal.  This time
around I've only had one problem with it.  I got my nipple professionally 
pierced almost 3 weeks ago.  I must say that from my experience I much
prefered the 1 minute total (piercing and jewelry insertion) was preferable
to doing it myself and having the pain drag on.  However, When I pierced my 
nose it was much easier to deal with a low level pain being drawn out over an
hour as apposed to the unbearable pain I felt when my nipple was pierced.  But
the pain of my nipple was over quick which was nice.

IMHO I think that if you decide you want to have your other nipple pierced, you
should get it done professionally this time.  Here are some good reasons:

1-strerile equipment which will prevent infection.
2-proper pircing equipment which will make the right size hole for the jewelry
  you choose.
3-a wide selection of non-irritating jewelry which will make the healing 
  process quicker and prevent allergic reactions.
4-proper placement.  
5-It'll be quicker and the pain will be over quicker.

Whatever method you choose, be sure evrything is sterile and have a good
time.

HAPPY PIERCING!


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From: thebo@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Michael Thebo)
Subject: Branding...
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:15:19 GMT


I'm posting this for a friend...
Does anyone out in net.land have any suggestions on how to do a good branding
How much presure, how hot, time left in contact with the skin etc.
Also, he needs info on heeling to make it scar up really nice.
(btw the above is not to say that I advocate or approve of trying this
with no exp.  all flames will be ingnored)

I'm also looking for a special type of nose stud I heard about in Modern
Primatives, it is just long enough to go through the nostral and has a circular
metal clip that fastens on the inside... no one I've talked too has even heard
of these, not even the wonderful people at Gauntlet.

					-Thebes
From: kmac@cisco.com (Karl MacRae)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: tattoo changes.
Date: 12 Jan 1993 21:26:47 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Menlo Park, California, USA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: regal.cisco.com

In article <1iukqoINNfgn@bigboote.WPI.EDU> xine@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (the strawberry girl) writes:
>
>	i have a tattoo which is a little over a year old;  it is a black
>	and blue daisy above my left breast.  i have noticed two changes
>	in the area lately:
>
>	change #1:  a mole i have close to my left armpit above my breast
>	(about 3 inches away from the tat) has changed:  it used to be
>	a round, dark brown mole, and now it is an irregular, half-dark-
>	brown/half-orangish-tan mole.  i noticed this when the tattoo was
>	@11 months old.  could this change have been made by having the 
>	tattoo close to it?  i know, i'm grasping for straws..


	Ah, not to alarm you, but a mole changing color, size, shape, etc,
	is a MAJOR warning sign of the possibility of skin cancer. 

	Go *directly* to your doctor and get it checked out. 

	No, the tattoo could not have an effect unless it's ON the mole.


>	change #2:  the center of the daisy is the blue part, and it seems
>	that the petal `next to' the mole is leaking black into the center.
>	i just noticed this yesterday, and thought it was kind of wierd.
>	could this be connected to the mole thing, or is it just getting old
>	or am i grasping at straws again?

	I would think the tattoo is just getting old. Tattoos blur; you've
	got ink under your skin, and it just slowly seeps out into the tissue
	around it. A good tattooist can minimize this, but not stop it. And
	the effect is always more pronounced on soft skin.


			-Karl


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From: ae740@yfn.ysu.edu (Matthew Coda)
Subject: Re: tattoo changes.
Reply-To: ae740@yfn.ysu.edu (Matthew Coda)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:46:55 GMT


In a previous article, xine@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (the strawberry girl) says:

>	change #1:  a mole i have close to my left armpit above my breast
>	(about 3 inches away from the tat) has changed:  it used to be
>	a round, dark brown mole, and now it is an irregular, half-dark-
>	brown/half-orangish-tan mole.  i noticed this when the tattoo was

This really sounds like a melenoma (sp?).  As with all cancer don't screw
around and go see a doctor.  I'd be supprised if this was related to the
tat.

I can't really comment on the second question, but best bet wait and see
if it continues to "bleed".


-- 
Virtual Matt, in his virtual office, doing virtually........

Matt Coda ae740@yfn.ysu.edu
U-grad, Materials Engineering, Drexel University
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From: fredj@wang.com (Fast Freddie)
Subject: Discovery Channels' Tattoo program
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:45:14 GMT

	Did anyone see the Discovery Channels' "Writings of the soul".  It
was about the history of Tattooing, and showed some tattoo shops on the
"West Coast" in the late 60's or early 70's (guess).  I taped it, because
of the history, and got some really good ideas for tribal/primative
designs.
	It seems as though the original method was to strike a combed
needle apparatus with a round stick.  Still the natives had the look of
pain on their faces.

Fast Freddie
From: naf@ox.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: home piercing...
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:41:33 GMT
Organization: Department of Experimental Psychology, Oxford University, Oxford, UK.
Originator: naf@dragon.psych


Well, I've been lurking here for quite a while now and thought it was about time
to throw in my little story...

About 18 months ago, while I was in America I pierced my own nipple. A previous
attempt performed by my girlfriend had been unsuccessful. I didn't really
consider the option of going to a professional peircer because I had no idea such
things existed...

Point 1. Self piercing f**king hurts !

Point 2. I'm very pleased indeed with it.

Point 3. But if I did it again, I'd go to a proper piercer !

Method. safety pin. lots of ice. approx. 20 mins of intense pain. Not having any
proper piercing jewellry I left the safety pin in for a few days 'til it all got
rather gungey. Then inserted a simple silver earring in the hole. It healed up
pretty well. It took about a month before changing jewellry became comfortable. I
then set about stretching the hole with more and more gold earrings (about 6 or 7
in the end) and then sent off for a 12 ga. ball closure ring and barbell. I have
had few problems since.

As for size, the nipple is probably twice the size of the un-pierced one now.

My only concern was about placement, now it is fully healed the hole is about
halfway down the nipple, not through the base as in pictures I've seen. But hey,
its been in for a year and a half and hasn't grown out yet so I guess it's going
to be fine.

Hmmm, I wonder if I've got enough guts to do the other one....

N
From: hjanules@hamp.hampshire.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: a queer poem open for critique
Date: 9 Jan 93 14:34:40 EDT
Organization: Hampshire College
NNTP-Posting-Host: hamp.hampshire.edu

Here's a poem I wrote.  Please critique with specifics!

Three Women

Last summer, 
we punctuated our conversation of five months, 
with a kiss-
	lip touching trembling lip
	in alien greeting and exclamation.
In the morning, 
six hours of train track 
pulled our mouths apart, 
leaving our conversations to letters-
	locked, sealed and silent
	about the safety of darkness.

There is another woman
whose body fits with mine like a puzzle piece.
A straight outside
and a curved inside, 
we form no image together, 
united in simple convenience.
She has stolen your hair and your hands, 
but not your words, 
the ones that mingled with mine on tongues
in summer heat.
In her darkness, 
I am dangerous and alone, 
drowning in punctuation
without a sentence.
From: bu016@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Zita Marie Evensen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: upon seeing a commercial    / z.
Date: 5 Jan 1993 13:44:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bu016@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Zita Marie Evensen)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


This was written impromptu for a writing seminar. The picture we were
to write about was a Benetton  commercial on AIDS.

.........................................................................

              AIDS

Life ebbing away ...
From this indiscriminate virus.
Tired eyes searching for a path
 . . . to return to the past
           revealing where he
                   shouldn't have been.

              ***

zita maria evensen
c1992, mar 21


-- 
--{--{@  i am a romantic ... no apologies  @}--}--
From: elc@cup.portal.com (Edward L Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: Re: The Human Profanity (C&C Welcome)
Date: Thu,  7 Jan 93 21:02:12 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa


The Human Profanity

A scent of storm lingers on orgiastic lips,
Provocative mud splatters a reprobate's eclipse.
Ribald gestures are annoyed reciting wordless rhymes,
A repetitious braggart works his lechery overtime.

Jocular jests in longings stout from a malice star,
Promiscuous words are meant to be exactly what they are.
Grandiose deeds of impish lust licensed with a card,
Satisfy old sodomites they're willing to disguard.

Gigantic squalor gaudy rites daring what is wise,
Risque slander pungent love is all he ever buys.
Arid flower lineage frump a stagnant vanity,
Prurient strokes banquet in a errant canopy.

Agnostic morals glutton urges precariously amour,
Afflicted cravings stir arousals surging them galore.
Intensely filthy erection minded one track destiny,
Mental dungeon essence impious, The Human Profanity.
---------------------------------------------------------
All opinions, comments and advise will be gratefully accepted...
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From: marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marek Lugowski)
Subject: the gods of k mart and the shiny neon lights / Marek (1992)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 10:03:23 GMT

 
                the gods of k mart and the shiny neon lights
                -------------------------------------------------------------
 
                the gods of k mart flick on the blue light
                and the faithful gather to the sight.
 
                the gods of the shiny neon lights
                are after my heart.
 
                i start the motor and the gods of my
                vehicle are running.  oh ye gods,
                what would i do if the thing quit on
                me on the interstate highway?
 
                the gods of rain are listening in the wind.
                the gods of wind are listening in the rain.
 
                the gods of disdain live in seattle in a certain house.
                they think i'm a louse.  but then there are other gods
                out there.  who think i'm nice.
 
                the gods of my coca-cola consumption are rich merchants.
                the gods of my keyboard sometimes lock in repetitious distress.
                the gods of my dishwasher yank my chain and accept tributes.
 
                many gods are called (the irs) but few are chosen (to audit).
 
                some day one day i too will be gods and then we shall see
 
                who's king.
 
 
                        Marek Lugowski
                        15 April 1992
                        Cincinnati, Ohio

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From: jchien@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jennifer Crystal Fang-Chien)
Subject: Re: Jesus on a Stick Burning with Pastrami -- jchien
Organization: The Land of Flowers (Stanford U.)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 18:17:26 GMT

<X67107@BARILVM.BITNET> write:
>In article <1992Dec31.203215.25089@leland.Stanford.EDU>,
>jchien@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jennifer Crystal Fang-Chien) says:
>>
>>        Jesus on a Stick Burning with Pastrami

[...]

>>        Three white-robed men
>>        carrying foil-wrapped presents and acrid incense
>>        entered the restaurant.  They sat apart
>>        from the rest, and even their menu was of another sort
>>        (I could tell from the straw manger and horses on the cover
>>        instead of rye).  They discussed what to order,
>>        throwing out choices such as "Lamb with Onions and Cream",
>
>not likely...................not KOSHER..... (meat and milk)

	About the kosher comments, this is why the three white-robed
men received a different menu from the rest.  They are (will be?) Christians.
Or am I missing something in the above comment?

>I might have ended it
>
>         But no one did show any interest
>         on the cross, dressed in a thousand islands
>           sauce the bubling lamb-flesh did speak.
>         The soft voice no one could hear,
>          "The fire! Christ turn up the fire."

	Thanks for the suggestion.


Jennifer
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: yellow jackets 5
From: jabolliger@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:41:55 EST

			Metamorphoses


Reading a book
she'd cirled on the floor for hours.
The sun came through the window
warming the spot where she lay.

Inside the window yellow jackets
bumped their bodies in effort to get out.
Their buzzing got louder
so loud she could feel it in her chest.

The sun light turned violet.
She looked up.
The window was thick with yellow jackets.
Getting closer to look she shivered.

	So many yellow jackets!

She rubbed her arms; they were hard, yellow
found the humming in her chest
came from her wings.

The room became a prison.
She began throwing herself against the glass.

She stopped
remembering the crack in the screen.

When she found the hole she waved antenna to her sisters.

	This is the way out!


Jean Ann Bolliger
September 1990
From: donz@uiunix.ui.org (Don Zirilli)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: Heavyweights and Blue Plates
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:29:24 GMT
Organization: UNIX International, Parsippany, NJ  07054

In article <1iinmcINNj51@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bu016@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Zita Marie Evensen) writes:
>
>In a previous article, pagrawal@portal.hq.videocart.com (Pankaj Agrawal) says:
>
>>Marek writes:
>[ much good stuff deleted]
>
>>I know I am butting in between two heavyweights on this group. If any of you
>>wants to flame me, thats fine as long as you don't expect a response.
>>
> i am new to r.a.p.  and work gets in the way of reading posts
>thoroughly. may i inquire what qualifies lugoski and zirilli asd heavy-
>weights? 

Here are the possible reasons I am a heavyweight:

phud's in lit? 
BA only

volume of posts? 

Sounds likely!

number of poems published?

zilch.

>this is not intended to light a match ... just curious.
>z.

Personally, I think it was a fat joke.  Even if Marek and I are porkers, 
that's our business!  This is an impersonal medium, and y'all are in no
way exposed to our folds and the cheeses within, so cut the wisecracks!


I now have for you the work of a fellow acolyte, known as Silver Man.  
And no, he is not Void Man.  Please let me know if you like his stuff.
He doesn't have net access and he's curious.  Actually, I would enjoy
sharing any comments, good or bad, and he has a strong ego so flame away
if you like:

(This also relates well to the recent kitten thread)



Blue Plate

	In the dark, the cat tasted like veal.  Not at all like chicken, as
he'd suspected.  Imagine that, he thought, a half-breed calico like this
tasting like milk-fed veal.  
	A prize for the palette, a surprise for the stomach.  He most
relished the bones which snapped hard and would leave jagged edges that cut
into his gums.  The sensation was stimulating, there was no denying it.
	He wondered what his wife would think when she got home.  Chicken,
or veal?

by David Silverman



Yours,

Posthumous O'Toole
-- 
Chucklehead awaits the return of his .sig

Aaron Radomski, where are you???
From: gt7244c@prism.gatech.EDU (John G'alt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: yellowjackets!!!
Summary: obituary :-)
Date: 10 Jan 93 23:05:23 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech!


Yellow Jacket # 6 ?

Duke is toasted!!!

the Tech jackets toast the dookies 80-79
goodbye Hurley...


(this has been a rare display of spirit from a Tech student)
G'alt!
-- 
John Greenawalt, gt7244c@prism.gatech.edu (whooptydoo yes I'm a number)
     "...let's drink to the fields elysian,
         let's drink to the champs elysee..."   
                                           - Figures On A Beach