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From: Alexx@world.std.com (Alexx S Kay)
Subject: Re: OZ SQUAD #4 out?
Keywords: OZ
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 23:12:39 GMT

krf@troy.cat.rpi.edu (Keith R. Fieldhouse) writes:

>Alexx,

>You've mentioned the Oz squad backstory a couple of times.  I'm just curious,
>where did you come across it?  Or are you acquainted with the creators of 
>Oz Squad (and if you are, do you know when #4 is coming out :-))

No particular "inside" info, but I've read a few interviews, and I'm good at 
reading between the lines.  This isn't scientific fact or anything, but there
are a few places where I'm certain I know what the writer is hinting at.  I
spent over a year a ways back working on a game based on the Oz books, and
thus went through what I expect are very similar thought-processes about how
to both rationalize and expand upon the existing continuity of Oz...

Alexx

Alexx@world.std.com
"My indifference to that comment can only be described as sexual in intensity."
		-- the net.mutant.god, N. Teram
From: klein@frith.egr.msu.edu (Jeffrey Klein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: LSH - Omnicom?
Date: 26 Sep 92 22:30:04 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University College of Stunt Piloting

In elmo's and Dani Zweig's LSH posts, there have been a number
of references to "Omnicom" - is this an LSH fanzine?

-- 
Jeff Klein             | "Happily, Ral doffs his outer clothing for a
Browsing Boy of the LNH|  refreshing dip in one of the dangerous 
klein@frith.egr.msu.edu|  chemical vats." - Ty Templeton 
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From: jonal@dhhalden.no (JON ARVID LOVSTAD)
Subject: Re: VALIANT
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 08:12:23 GMT

In article <1a793jINN6gh@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> ST701816@brownvm.brown.edu (RE: VALIANT) writes:
>
>Also, how does that explain the D'Arque Power (Master D'Arque) appearing now
>in SHADOWMAN? Looks like Voodoo to me. And even if it's something masquerading
>as Voodoo, the character M. D'Arque himself refers to his actions as the
>casting of spells. Sounds like magic, looks like magic, tastes like magic.
>So, if it's not magic, then What is it?

It's the result of the dangerous combination of Oreos & milk... I think...


>    -  A confused Valiant fan,
>       Arshad Ahsanuddin, st701816@brownvm.brown.edu

Nomad

Jon Lovstad                |   Sorry, but this part of my .sig file has been
jonal@sofus.dhhalden.no    |   retconned by DeFalco...
                           |
SnailMail: Hjortsbergvn 7  |
N-1784 HALDEN, NORWAY      |   OOOPS! He took the other part as well...
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From: zeeshan@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Zeeshan Hasan)
Subject: Ramadan (was Re: SANDMAN: Annotation 31 Revised)
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 06:35:07 GMT
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
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	Actually, the Islamic holy month of Ramadan is not directly
associated with Muhammad.  Tradition holds, however, that the Quran
was first revealed to him in this month.  It is also prescribed as a
month of fasting, spirituality, etc.
	I hadn't heard of this unpublished Distant Mirrors story,
though.  Anyone know who the artist is?

farewell--
--
Zeeshan Hasan 
(zeeshan@occs.cs.oberlin.edu or skh7063@oberlin.bitnet)
OCMR Box 1529, Oberlin, Ohio 44074. Phone:(216)775-6447
	"I love mankind... it's people I can't stand!" - Linus Van Pelt
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: that little box in the lower corner
Date: 30 Sep 92 02:55:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.20807
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <swindley.717809247@s1.elec.uq.oz.au> swindley@elec.uq.oz.au (Robert Swindley) writes:
>Okay, it's bothered me for ages and I've never found
>anyone who could properly tell me what the significance 
>of that little box in the lower corner of (nearly) every
>cover of a comic book. (you know the little one with 
>bar-codes if it's a newstand comic or a little picture
>of a superhero if it's direct sales.
>
>I think I've heard it referred to as a 'UPC' box or
>somesuch, so what does "UPC' stand for ????
>

Obviously, you've been away from the ONE TRUE CHURCH too long, boy,
or you'd've had beaten in to your WAYWARD head that the UPC symbol is the
work of SATAN, designed to mark the NUMBER OF THE BEAST upon all that is
commerced upon this fair land!

Oops, sorry, I just got out of sci.skeptic!

Still, UPC stands for the Universal Product Code, which is a linebar
type of identifying system for input devices such as those wonderful laser
scanners you see at your supermart to keep track of the product being sold
(and its price, etc.). Depending on the inherent malevolence of your local
retailer, information gained through your UPC codes you buy could determine
such important things as what junk mail you get:  certain companies are now
buying lists of people who buy certain items regularly in an attempt to
truly target their audience.

In any case, the reason comics you buy at your comics store most likely
don't carry the UPC zebra code, is that direct sales comics don't need to
be marked thusly, unlike newsstand version. And, instead of having a large
white box and the bottom of the page ruin the carefully crafted artistic
poster poses of Lee, Liefeld, and other leading comics divas, companies have
for awhile filled it with various symbols or objects.

BTW, the belief that the UPC symbol is one of the incarnations of the Number
of the Beast is one held by select fundamentalists, but that's another matter
far beyond the innocent ears of the newly birthed r.a.c.m.

-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - CTHULHU in '92! Why vote for LESSER evils?
For Kate is a jealous God, and requires sacrifice./What was your question?--K
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
dhenry@plains.nodak.edu * ud137927@ndsuvm1.bitnet * ud137927@vm1.nodak.edu
From: v124jw4y@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Benjamin R Pierce)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: LNH: Marvel_Zombie Lad/Boy
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:43:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Ooops, sorry.  I missed most of Cry.Sig because my STUPID SCHOOL NEWSREADER
hasn't seen fit to pick up alt.comics.LNH yet.  I guess I am in a coma, after
all...so the current, official status of Marvel_Zombie Lad/Boy is:

1. His name is still Marvel Zombie Boy, due to some nefarious plot beyond my
   control.

2. He's dead.
3. He's in a coma.
4. He STILL thinks Groo the Wanderer is a good comic.

Watch for the "Marvel_Zombie Lad Reborn" one-shot, coming this October to a
newsgroup near you!



                                                 --Ben (MZL)
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From: scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons)
Subject: Re: Miracleman #23: Afterthinks
Organization: Inland Sea
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 18:16:54 GMT

Montague_Kevin@Tandem.com (Kevvy Kev) writes:

>In article <1992Oct3.071351.27031@netcom.com>, dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:

>2 YM's last comment: "I want my Muh-muh-mother!"  My first reaction was to the
>  pathos, but almost immediately cynicism slapped me in the back of the head:
>  This kid never knew his mom.

Yeah, but *he* didn't know that until the last few hours (and in fact,
may not realize it yet).  Emotionally, he's still 99.97% what Gargunza
made him.

>3 Why doesn't MM reconstitute Bates?  NOT KM, but Bates?  As long as the cloned
>  KM body is taken out of infraspace, or whatever that region is called, then
>  Johnny's no threat.  And MM seemed to geniunely like the kid.

Reread them back issues a lot closer.  Johnny Bates was killed quite
violently at the end of that sequence, with brain destroyed and the
body not placed in infraspace.  A Warhol-style construct might be possible,
but no ressurection.

>4 MM and Moran *are* the same person.  I got tired of arguing with you mutton-
>  heads before, but I'm refreshed now.  Bring it on. . .

Heck, I agree with you.  MM/Moran strike me as like Charlie Gordon ("Flowers
For Algernon" by Daniel Keyes).  They're the same person, but the variations
in intelligence level radically affect the personality.
-- 
 "When Dexter's on the Internet, can Hell be far behind?"
		-- Steve Simmons, scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us
From: terry@edsi.plexus.COM (Terry Dawson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman #43
Date: 4 Oct 92 21:08:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: edsi.1992Oct04.210851.10013
Organization: Appleton Public Library - Appleton, WI

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach) writes:

>I was discussing this with someone over e-mail.  What if:

>- Destruction is not Destruction any more.  "You can stop being anything."

>- Some other "aspect" (is that what Dream called them?) of Destruction took
>  his place.

This would tie in nicely with the hypothesis that the series is headed
toward Morpheus' abdication in favor of Daniel or someone else.  We're
probably also heading for Shakespeare's "The Tempest", and the close of
that play fits nicely the retirement of a great power:

                      EPILOGUE
                 Spoken by Prospero

Now my charms are all o'erthrown,
And what strength I have's mine own,
Which is most faint...
                  ...now I want
Spirits to enforce, art to enchant...

I love the irony of the arc title "Brief Lives" in juxtaposition with
the lifespans that run thousands of years -- or are endless.

-- 
     Terry Dawson       | "Only connect!" | voice: (414) 832-6168
Appleton Public Library |                 |   fax: (414) 832-6422
  Appleton, WI 54911    |  -E.M. Forster  | terry@edsi.plexus.com
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From: 003695s@ace.acadiau.ca (STEPHANE ANDRE SAVOIE)
Subject: Vertigo : Hunh?
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:57:22 GMT


 Could somebody please post any available information on the Vertigo line 
from DC, including the article from CBG if possible?  Tanx.

KID ANARKY
From: brasen@ui.org (Steve Brasen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Eclipso Series
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:38:15 GMT
Organization: UNIX International  Parsippany, NJ


Say, I just noticed in DC's subscription ad page a listing for a 
new Eclipso series.  Anyone have an idea what this is about (ie.
storyline, who's doing it, etc.)

-- 
Steve Brasen                            ATT:    +1 201 263-8400 X237
Systems Administrator                   UUCP:   brasen@ui.org
UNIX International
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From: leifmk@Lise.Unit.NO (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
Subject: Cerebus
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 19:57:52 GMT

Uh, I just recently learned of the existence of Cerebus....

Went out and got hold of the 'phonebook' Church & State I.....

Hot DAMN.....

All you veterans:  Don't you just ENVY me for being able to experience this 
discovery?  

Can't wait 'till I get hold of the other books.....I KNOW I have something to 
look forward to.  Yummy.

Leif the .sigless
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From: tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver)
Subject: Re: Sandman #43
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 20:29:10 GMT

sane@cs.uiuc.edu (Aamod Sane) writes:

>Quite. But are the artists starving or what? Goddam anemic drawings!
>Give me Charles Vess any day...

I like the current artwork. Perhaps because I loathed Shawn McManus' smiles so
much... and Vess is a little flat for me; OK for Shakspir, I guess.

>About Destruction, I think the idea is Change rather than random violence.
>Remember the last conversation - 
>DL: what is the word for the time when things don't remain the same
>DR: Change
>DL: I was afraid of that...

Hmm. But, we have already had stuff about Del & change: the bit when she's
hanging out with the "hindustrial haccident" woman, the bit when she remembers
Destruction and Change... it could equally well be a theme for the issues, or
the reason Del wants to speak to Destruction...

Tanaqui
From: barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Soviet Super Soldiers
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:00:28 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <BvBzAD.w7@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Deus Imperator) writes:
> Hey, just wanted to point out a great comic that some of you might
> have missed.  SSS was written by Fabian Nicieza, so you know it's top 
> rate mind candy... Finally, a talented writer gets to tie together about 
> 100,000 dangling plot threads, as well as deal with a bunch of fascinating
> characters from a country that has seen so much change, that you wonder if
> it really happened in Marvel time (since they never showed it).  Characters
> evolve, unlike many books, and Nicieza does a commendable job considering the
> book spans 21 months and deals with 15 seperate characters in an intelligent,
> entertaining manner.  Sure, the push was done to bring Darkstar to the front
> for the Darkforce War, in New Warriors, but it was a much needed update.

<opinion deleted to protect the innocent>
 
The problems I had with this book were as follows:
 1) The art - I couldn't believe this was Saltares & Medina!  Not
terribly bad, but not worthy of them, either.
  2) Too much crunch - My firm belief (no proof) is that Fabian
originally planned this as a series or miniseries, but Marvel wasn't
too terribly interested.  So they dredged up the story, had Fabe touch
it up and then packed 10 issues worth of stuff into it.  I'm sorry,
but it's just _too much_!
  3) Weren't the Soviet Super-Soldiers conscious at the end of CAPTAIN
AMERICA?  Perun had neither his new costume nor his new weapons,
whashisname was still the Dynamo, not Airstrike, etc. in the Crossing
Line story in AVENGERS - _but_ Sputnik was called Vostok and the team
was the People's Protectorate.  Sloppy retconning.

The things I liked:
  1) The value.  You get 64 (I think) pages of pure story, no ads!,
for $2.00; you can't beat that (well, you could if it were better...)
  2) The overall plot - If done in a mini-series and not rushed like
it is by the format, this would be an excellent story.

My rating: a 'C' on the Drizzt Scale.

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From: hlow@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Handel Low)
Subject: Re: Women in Comics in the 1980's
Organization: 
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 16:00:35 EDT


Do yourself a favor and look up Alan Martin and Jamie Hewlett's 
"Tank Girl."  No it's not your typical "mature" flesh-driven comic.

Fine comic.  I'm still dying to find a way to get a T-shirt.


handel "it's in his soup" low
From: kieran@cmatter.physics.indiana.edu (kieran)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman dream artists (no pun intended)
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:31:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Indiana University

In article <BvpCuo.MMH@world.std.com> Alexx@world.std.com (Alexx S Kay) writes:
>solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay) writes:
>
>>Phil Foglio, doing Goldie's birthday party.
>
>>(Hey, I could've said Hembeck...)
>
>Actually, although I love Foglio's work, I'd love to see Sergio Aragones
>illustrating this one :-)
>

    Yeah, save Phil for the X-rated issue of Sandman that visits 
that certain special part of the dream world...  ;-)  

                    Kieran Mullen
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Swamp Thing #125
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:19:40 GMT

Good writing, but a bad story.  Also a bad omen for the coming year in
Swamp Thing, if the blurbs are to be believed.  Nancy Collins writes
good dialogue for engaging characters, but her plots tend to be trite.
If this issue is a setup for the coming arc, the next year's offerings
will be *very* trite:  more Sunderland, more Arcane, more animated
corpses and B-movie effects for scenes in which the writer's imagination
flags.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   If you're going to write, don't pretend to write down.  It's going to be the
   best you can do, and it's the fact that it's the best you can do that kills
   you! -- Dorothy Parker
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Eclipso Series
Date: 1 Oct 92 07:58:16
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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In-reply-to: brasen@ui.org's message of 30 Sep 92 18:38:15 GMT

>>>>> On 30 Sep 92 18:38:15 GMT, brasen@ui.org (Steve Brasen) said:


brasen> Say, I just noticed in DC's subscription ad page a listing for
brasen> a new Eclipso series.  Anyone have an idea what this is about
brasen> (ie.  storyline, who's doing it, etc.)

I just read issue 1 last night. It is very violent and bloody. In the
first issue, Eclipso has posesed a small village (damn, forget where.
Columbia or something) He kills everyone in the village after he
posses on of the inhabitants bodies. He comes to the conclusion he
needs large sums of money to help him in his conquest of Earth. The
villagers were actually slave labor producing cocaine, for a Count who
controlled the area. So Eclipo posesses the Count, and now has rule of
the entire area, and the cocaine. 

--
 Scott Streeter                             Keeper of the Star Wars Archive
 ss@wpi.wpi.edu                             wpi.wpi.edu        130.215.24.1
From: jrd@lynx.frame.com (James Drew)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: DC: Superman dead; I don't believe it!
Date: 30 Sep 1992 12:40:26 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Sally Webster (ACDSPW@SUVM.SYR.EDU) writes:

>Does anyone remember the name of the woman who changes into Superwoman?

Do you mean Kristin Wells?  Early 30th Century descendent of Jimmy Olsen,
history professor, star of Elliot S! Maggin's novel "Miracle Monday,"
appeared in DC Comics Presents Annual, I believe it was #3 and #4?

Or do you mean someone else?

------------------------------
                             |      As we entered the dark enclosure, the door
Jim Drew                     | slamming shut behind us, I suddenly remembered a
jrd@frame.com                | t-shirt slogan: "Meat is Murder / Dairy is
(Furry: Randy Puritan)       | Rape."  Here I was, wearing a leather jacket,
"Innocent, but not naive."   | surrounded by cows with an unknown agenda.
B2h t w- c k s g+(p) rv p    |     I couldn't help but wonder if cows ever
S8/5 g l+ y+ o+ a+ u++- j++  | avenged dead relatives.
{opinions: mine != frame's}  |		- Marc Lynx, "Snap! Crackle! BANG!"
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: LSH #35
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 05:18:37 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Well, we got another probable super-power use from Bounty.

Vi's latest diary entry is nicely ambiguous, still without
admitting a thing.

Tenzil selflessly offers the fruits of his political expertise,
but the offer fails to garner the appreciation it deserves.

Is that thing on Dirk I's back his exposed spine?

Reasons to stay clear of Jan include
  -- Fear he may surround you with an impenetrable protective
     inertron sphere and then suffer a heart attack.

  -- The consequences of being around when he walks through
     walls by converting half a ton of metal to oxygen.  Due
     to conservation of energy, if this is not to be accompanied
     by a major nuclear blast, the stone must be replaced by an
     equal mass of oxygen.  Figuring a density of roughly 10 for
     the metal, it works out that that portion of wall is replaced
     by a mass of oxygen compressed to 6,000 atmospheres.

How's this for a plot idea:  Using subliminals sent through the
Omnicoms, Universo takes over the Earth, and causes the Legion to
be outlawed.  To get them out of the way he has them arrested on
trumped-up charges and sent to a space-prison...  No?

I continue to be happy with the writing and underwhelmed by the artwork
-- with the inker taking most of the blame.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

  Watership Down:  
  You've read the book.  You've seen the movie.  Now eat the stew!


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From: mgq@inel.gov (Michael G McKellar)
Subject: BATMAN:  Two Face TAS (was: The Harvey Dent dilemma)
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 16:45:58 GMT

I liked the Two Face episode in the animated series.  I especially
liked Batman's dream in the second part.  Overall a very good story.

Now on to other Two Face stuff.  Two Face is one of my favorite
characters because Batman/Bruce cares for him and wants to help him.

I think the best stories that deal with Two Face are as follows:

1.  Batman Annual #13 (the revised and most recent Two-Face orgin)
2.  Secret Orgins Special #1 (the one Neil Gaiman wrote the Riddler
    story,  it has the best reason why Two-Face became Two-Face)
3.  The recent Faces story in Legends of the Dark Knight.  (It studied
    the psychology of Two-Face somewhat)
4.  The Dark Knight Returns issue one (This is my favorite Batman story)
    I really could feel Batman's concern for Harvey and it also 
    discusses Harvey's mental state.

Other decent stories include

1.  The Batman Annual #12
2.  Batman: A Lonely Place of Dying (Where Tim Drake is introduced)
3.  Batman: Year One


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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: Cerebus #162
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 02:36:45 GMT

This issue has to have had the best 'sexual innuendo in the form of comics 
pricing criteria' I've ever seen (okay, the only case I've seen, but great 
nonetheless).
     Elrod - ...she's not exactly mint condition, if you follow my meaning.
     Punisherroach - Oh, I know, she's got a few creases in her spine, a little
wear and some fading, but no chipping, and no pieces are missing, and she's 
very *very* fine...with a little love and care I believe she can be restored to
pristine condition...
     Sorry for any inaccuracies, it's from memory.
     Dave Van Domelen, missing a few staples himself
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From: scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons)
Subject: Re: Sandman #43
Keywords: Endless, animals, relations
Organization: Inland Sea
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 03:08:05 GMT

rooney@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael Sean Rooney) writes:

>	This topic was mentioned previously, but the latest issue
>adds to our tally of the Endless' animal companions. 

>	Dream                     ravens
>	Despair                   rats 
>	Destruction               dogs

Gotta be the dogs of war . . .
-- 
 "When Dexter's on the Internet, can Hell be far behind?"
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