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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:47:00 EDT
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From:         BMENK@CCR2.BBN.COM
Subject:      Summary of responses on Macs and SCSI Express

My request for information or possible solutions for creating Mac access to DOS
cd's over Novell using SCSI Express received only two replies:

>We currently have our mac users get into our databases by connecting to our
>dial-in server with Novell Onlan communications software (without using a
>modem, direct connect to the server). From there they log into our PC-Lan
>and connect to the databases (Ours are cd databases loaded onto a 5 gig
>scsi hard drive) This seems to work quite well.
[from]
>John Ludwig                         Internet - jludwig@uwsuper.edu


and

>Towards the end of this month we will be releasing a version of
>SCSI Express that will support the Macs in the same fasion as DOS, OS/2 or
>NFS clients..
[from]
>Robert Smith at Micro Design International

I had hoped for more input, but thanks to those who did reply.


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From: tmunro@superior.carleton.ca (Tim Munro)
Subject: Re: SCSI Express & Sony
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:12:39 GMT

In <CDROMLAN%92110507315969@IDBSU.BITNET> Greg Goldstein <GGOLDSTE@UA1VM.BITNET> writes:

>Does anybody have SCSI Express working with Sony CDU-541 readers.

	Yes, we have 13 Toshiba's and one Sony CDU-541, it works just
fine.

--
Tim Munro

Internet: tmunro@ccs.carleton.ca
Voice:    (613) 788-2600 x3722 
Fax:      (613) 788-4448

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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 08:44:00 CDT
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From:         "BONNIE MCNEELY, TWU LIBRARY SYSTEMS" <S_MCNEELY@TWU.BITNET>
Subject:      Logicraft

Greetings,

    We have been installing a Logicraft 486/386 unit with our
CBIS (Multiplatter) tower (7 CD drives) on the campus network
(DEC VAX).  The configuration was supposed to support 8 users
but we find response time unacceptable when there are indeed
8 users on the system.  Presently we only have Silverplatter
products - ERIC, CINAHL, and Medline mounted in the tower.

    I know that when we were originally putting together our
new system proposal in March of 1991, there were a number of
sites using the Logicraft unit.  Has anyone worked through
this problem and found a solution - or gone on to upgrade this
configuration?

    I would appreciate any suggestions.  My bitnet address is
s_mcneely@twu and my internet address is s_mcneely@venus.twu.edu.
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:12:00 EST
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From:         OUNANIAN@BABSON.BITNET
Subject:      need to improve LAN performance

I have entirely lost my patience with our LAN.  We here at the library at
Babson College had been running a CDROM LAN with Silver Platter menu
software, Novell 3.11 network software, DOS 5.0, CBIS fileserver software,
on 7 IBM-compatible 386's.  We run a couple Silver Platter products, plus
Compact SEC, and UMI's ABI/Periodicals' Abstracts/Newspaper Abstracts.
We experience on a daily basis a number of problems; Compact SEC won't
download to the A: drive, or stations hang in the middle of use of the different
products and we reboot, or we get intermittent error messages of all kinds.
Question: who out there is running any of the products I named above on any
kind of software/hardware with reliable results?  Please send me a description
of your set-up.  I may be expecting too much, but I consider these daily
hang-ups and intermittent errors to be too much wrong with the network.  I
want a system that has only seven consecutive users up and running without
incident for weeks at a time.   My mission: find reliable software and JUNK
this LAN.  It is completely unacceptable as it is.  I am: Ounanian@Babson.
Bitnet.

Allison Ounanian
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From: ALILESTE@IDBSU.BITNET (Dan Lester)
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Subject: weekend disruption
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:29:30 GMT
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Good morning and happy Friday.  The BSU campus will have a major power
outage this weekend while a number of high voltage lines are upgraded.
This should not affect Saturday LISTSERV operation, but could make it
unavailable on Sunday, or even Monday if there are any problems or
backlogs on the mainframe.  Please be patient.

In addition, all of our Internet and Bitnet traffic comes in via the
Idaho National Engineering Labs near Idaho Falls, and they have been
down or backed up more than usual in the last few weeks.  If you have
any problems with getting messages through to the lists or the listserv,
that is probably why.  Since we are "at the end of the world" in
network topology, please be more than usually patient with the systems.

As always, I'm glad to help any who need assistance with adding or
deleting themselves from/to the lists, changing options, etc.  Remember:
commands regarding your subscription go to the LISTSERV, messages to
be distributed go to the listname.

dan

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:49:57 +0000
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From:         e.j.craft@ASTON.AC.UK
Subject:      Error messages - in general

Hi all.

        Does anyone think it would be a good idea if we collated all the
different error messages for CBIS, OPTINET, etc. ( also DBPAR parameters
for SPIRS/SPIRSFT ?) into a single FAQ ?

        I'm willing to have a bash at it if anyone wants to e-mail me
directly with any they've experienced I'll make up a single FAQ and put it
on the list.

                                                        Edward.



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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:03:00 EST
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From:         "D.E. 'Dave' Bloomberg" <BLOOMBER@FAUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Multi-tasking Networked CD's

    OOOOOPPPPSSS    open brain insert footages.....

    I stand corrected.  Tim is right on.  What I meant to say was:

    If all 18 stations access 18 DIFFERENT databases at the same
    time, performance "should" slow.  "Because the cdserver/cache would be
    running around all over the place."  This is where FAST players
    pay for themselves.


    Dave Bloomberg
    BLOOMBER@FAUVAX
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Original-From: 55539-Duncan <ixcim!bill>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.autism
Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 11:37:14 CST
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From:         bill@IXCIM.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: Alex at kindergarten

It's really hard walking the fine line between
encouraging the school system to do what's needed
and alienating them. Our problem wasn't so much
Isaac's teachers (untrained but well meaning) as
the "person" (I use the term loosely) administrating
special ed in our district. She'd agree to anything
that was free and involved no time or effort :-(

There are ways of encouraging without alienating. Be
stubborn. Get anyone you can to come to any future
IEP's (We had someone from UIC who is an expert in
autism come to one - the bs dropped dramatically
because they didn't want to look like a fool in front
of a knowledgable professional). Get friends or relatives
to come - it's excellent moral support. Find out your state's
laws on special ed. Find out about whatever appeal
processes exist in your state when you feel your child's
needs are not met. Get reports. Visit classes. We started
sending a journal with Isaac that they needed to write in
everyday to say what Isaac did that day. This was useful
documentation later on. Watch out for "compromises".
Decide what the minimum is that you'll accept, and stick
to it. Make sure enough time gets scheduled. One time we
were ready to do long fight, but everyone had to be somewhere
in an hour. Be very stubborn.

Again, I think your best argument is that they AGREED he needed
an aide. If they didn't, they would have noted it in the IEP.
You probably won't be able to get much done during a parent
teacher conference (if it's anything like our school system,
the teachers will be forced to back up the opinions of the
administration), but you can let it be known you'll be taking
a more active role.

Good luck - keep us posted
Bill Duncan

P.S. One thing we fought for and got was a peer friend program.
Not exactly peers, they got some 5th graders to volunteer to
come play and work with Isaac 20 minutes at a time. He responded
pretty well to it.
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:37:03 EST
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From:         IP15217@PORTLAND.BITNET
Subject:      parent-teacher conference

I just saw the post on the parent teacher conference and I thought that
I would put in my two cents worth.
In your post you stated that the school did not have enough funding
for an aide even though it was stated in the IEP that you have the right
to request one.  PL94-142 makes that statement irrelevent.  Funding is
never the issue.  If it's in the IEP the school is supposed to find
the funding.  The school will be reimbursed for the expense by the
federal government even though it will take them 2 years to get reimbursed.
You also stated that Alex(?) is on a 3 1/2 day schedule.  Current
research bears out that 225 days per year and 6 hours per day are
the minimum that a pre-school(!) child should be involved in a class-
room environment no matter what their level of functioning is.
This is according to Roger Miller, Ph.D. who runs a center in
Western Massachusetts.  I got the information at the National
conference in Albuquerque in July.  Research also bears out that
just being around normal kids is not enough.  Peer interaction and
support is essential to teaching "normal" social skills and
behaviors.

Again I just thought that I would put in my two cents worth.  Thanks
for reading my rantings and ravings.


             Curtis Maurand
             IP15217@Portland.bitnet
             IP15217@Portland.maine.edu
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From: jbadner@world.std.com (JA Badner)
Subject: Re: Auditory Integration Training
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:47:20 GMT

Abby, my niece, just started auditory training.  She does appear
to have specific auditory sensitivities (can't tolerate certain
music).  I'll be seeing her Thanksgiving so if there are any
changes, I'll report on them.  Generally it takes a while for the
changes to become evident but as I see her so infrequently, her
changes tend to be more obvious to me than to the rest of the
family who see her more frequently.

Judy
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 10:22:28 EST
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From:         RJKOPP@SUVM.BITNET
Subject:      Karl feeling "weird"

Feeling "weird" is also important to Shawna.  They are going to film
something at her school and we wanted to make sure it was OK with her,
so we asked her about it and she said it was fine.  When asked did she
have any questions about it she asked "What should she wear?".  This was
quite surprising to me.  Both me and Kathy came from poorer families that
wore hand-me-downs and 2nd hand stuff and usually was huge and worn looking.
We both always felt funny about this when we were kids.  Now we both try
to dress her as best we can so that she never has to go through the
ridicule we went through for dressing as such.  This was the first time
that she vocally said it was important to her.  She often would look
at herself and brighten up with new clothes on so we kind of knew it, but
it was kind of like the ultimate confirmation of it.

Shawna often is sensitive to how people react to her and she has often said
something like "you don't like me" if we have to scold her or have a difficult
time with something, also quite often it is something that she is doing that
she knows will bother us.  So it's kind of the catch-22 other parents have
spoken of.  Shawna likewise is very hard to direct, if something seems too
much like an instruction or order, it becomes a battle, or impossible.  It
takes alot of diplomacy!

She is seeking out other kids right now though alot more than ever in the
past.  Even playing games with them.  She has a hard time waiting in lines
so when the class lines up she wants to just leave the room.  This other
little boy tells her "Shawna, you have to wait in line, stay here" and
she looks him square in the eye and starts to laugh then starts walking
out of the class room.  Another little girl next to her caughed or made
some unusual sound.  Shawna thought the sound was funny and started to
laugh, then the girl noticed and did it again and the two of them kept
on for a while.  While the teacher probably had to direct them back to
work (although she is very astute, and let them do it long enough to
be a meaningful interaction) she will still let them know they need to
behave a certain way.  Nice skills developing.

Thanks,
Ray Kopp
Syracuse, New York
Internet:rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu
Bitnet:RJKOPP@SUVM.BITNET
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From: pjohnso@polaris.unm.edu (Zoe Paddy Johnson CIRT CSOS)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.autism
Subject: Re: Alex at kindergarten
Date: 6 Nov 92 06:13:41 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

A note about IEP's.  In New Mexico, on the back of the form setting up
an IEP appointment is a list of rights for the parent, such as 
representation by legal counsel (at one's own expense) and the right
of the child to attend all meetings.  My severely learning disabled
but gifted daughter got a hold of one of these before her IEP at the
start of the fifth grade.  She read it, noted her right to attend and
announced her intention of attending all future meetings (which she has
done) to me.
The reactions of the school district special ed administrative droids
to her presence was priceless, especially after they tried to exclude
her and she flipped over the form and pointed out her rights.  We have
had alot less bs about her and her needs since she started going.  The
goals have been things that she thought were useful and in general she
has worked hard at them since she helped negoiate them.  This is the 
same kid who when it came time to schedule high school for this fall
announced that she no longer listened to adults about limits because
we were always wrong (me, teachers and especially, the droids).    

Zoe 
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Subject: Re: Alex at kindergarten
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:00:56 GMT
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Dan,

I can't really add anything to what's already been said, but I can offer my
support for your intended actions and I empathize with what you are going
through.

Muriel's suggestion of role playing, I think, is a very good one. I have done
this with Helen often over the years and it now seems to be really starting to
pay off. An incident occurred yesterday morning that I would like to share
with you. Over the last few weeks I have been letting Helen write out her own
lunch order whenever she was to buy her lunch at the school canteen. This has
been very good for her reputation among the other children and canteen mothers
who never realised just what an 'advanced' little girl she was. So yesterday
Helen asked if she could go on her own to order her lunch and I agreed. I
waited in the lower playground while she went to the canteen. After about a
minute I noticed that she still hadn't reached the door of the canteen and I
went to look for her. Poking my head up to the upper level, I noticed that
Helen had been bailed up at the gate by a 5th or 6th grade boy, who from his
body language appeared to be teasing her - Helen appeared quite calm though.
He noticed me and took off like a rocket, before I could identify him. By the
time I reached Helen she was in the canteen ordering her lunch. After she had
finished I asked her what the boy had been saying to her. She said he was
just "carrying on with some nonsense" over her name. I asked if she had said
anything to him and she replied "I just said can you hang on for a minute while
I go and order my lunch and I'll come back for more of your nonsense and then
 I didn't tell her that the reason he
he had seen me, but I was still proud
of her for remaining calm and handling his torments in such a 'polite' manner.
Although I usually only let her buy her lunch once a week.... she bought it
again this morning without my supervision..... that's one less chore I have to
contend with and if she handles all future incidents the same way, she will be
a lot better off than many of her peers who are subject to the same kind of
treatment from older children. I have little doubt that she learnt this type of
response from role-playing with Tony..... when she is in a teasing mood he
often tells her to come back later after he's finished his homework, etc. and
I've noticed that she does the same to him, if he starts tormenting her while
she's playing her computer.

Carolyn
(PS. I'm sorry if I appear a little incoherent today.... that's the way I've
been feeling all week. I suspect it's got a lot to do with the Spring weather
we're having here at the moment..... wildly fluctuating temperatures and the
air is full of allergens.... that's migraine season for me. :-()
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 09:37:18 MST
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From:         Jean Jasinski <jean@HPFELA.FC.HP.COM>
Subject:      Re: follow up on Auditory re-training
              "RJKOPP%SUVM.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU" at Nov 4, 92 10:14 am

Thanks for responding and telling me your brother's story.  Do you
happen to know if he had the Berard type of auditory training or the
Tomasitis?  The Tomasitis method assumes a more psychological approach
while the Berard is physiological.  The Tomasitis method used to involved
hundreds of hours of training and the Berard method is just half an hour
of training twice a day separated by at least 4 hours.  The actual clock
hours may be much longer due to the time it can sometimes take to get a
child to cooperate.

Is your five year old brother autistic?  Did he have a prescreening
audiogram done to determine definitively which frequencies were troublesome
for him?  They can still do the training without knowing which frequencies
are bad, but this sounds too risky in my mind; you might be making the
undetermined problematic frequencies worse!   Did your brother display
signs of hypersensitive hearing?  Did he avoid some sounds?  Does he
hum?  Does he withdraw in loud situations?  My son is pretty verbal and
now he will tell us that some sounds hurt his ears.  (But I don't know
just how reliable the information really is.....)  My son also has a
hypersensitive sense of smell.  If I give him something to "feel" with
the instructions to feel it, he will smell it.  (If I tell him to smell
it, he will smell it as well).  The weirdest thing I have seen him smell
was a plastic fork.  We were out to eat at a pizza place and I broke one
of the tines off his plastic fork.  I got a second one and used it to cut
up his pizza and he says, "Two forks."  And he picks them both up and
smells each one.  Whenever he had to use his fork, he would pick up both
and determine which one to use by smell.  Living in Colorado, he is fond
of saying "Smells like cow (or dog or sheep) poop" when he goes outside
if he smells an odor.  And he's consistent with which smells goes with which
animal.  I tend to agree with his call.

Don't worry about taking long to respond.  I'm going out of town for the
long weekend (Thurs-Monday pm).  My husband will be in charge of both
kids (my almost 4 year old son and my 5 year old daughter who has brittle
bone disorder....).

Jean
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