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From: phsj@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Su Jianfeng)
Subject: Re: Everyone should change his major to Qi Gong major
Keywords: Qi Gong
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 06:12:10 GMT

In article <wshi.726122688@ponder> wshi@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Weiping Shi) writes:
>In <wangf.726102834@unixg.ubc.ca> wangf@unixg.ubc.ca (Frank Wang) writes:
>
>>I remember on netter said that when Yan was asked about
>>the scientic proof aobut his claims (molecule change of the water
>>he qi'ed), he was rather angry.  ...
>
>When I attended his performance, he said that he can offer a proof
>that he can stop a human's heart beating.  Any one dares
>to test?  Never mind why he didn't offer to stop an animal's heart.
>
>In fact, even if everything Yan Xin said were true, it is not
>a proof that his method works.  Person A and person B did what he said
>and worked doesn't mean what he said works with higher than random
>probability for other people,  because there might be person
>C, D, E and F died after trying his method.  What Yan Xin need to show,
>as required by all experimental sciences, is a statistical proof that for
>two groups of people with idential condition, the group using his method
>survived or whatevered with a statistically significant probability
>than the other group.  It is easy to see this statistical test
>is necessary, because for any method, we can always find some people
>they "tried" the method then "worked", by coincidence.
>

You can listen and watch the tapes and video about Yan Xin's lecture,
and you remember every of his words and his behaviours.  Then, you find
thousands volunteers to listen your lecture in which you repeat the same
words.   If you cause some people to response as those in Yan Xin's
lectures, you may be able to find out what is going on in Yan Xin's
lecture.  There are many people to critize the QiGong master's claim.
Unfortunately, they don't know how to repeat the QiGong master's
results.   Thus, they can not prove the masters are liers. 




J Su
From: lix@thames.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Rumor: U.S. Selling Nuke Sub to Taiwan?
Date: 9 Jan 93 01:20:06 GMT
Organization: Boston University

In article <lks1n5INNk3f@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
>In article <8JAN199314253238@jane.uh.edu> math1pu@jane.uh.edu (Douglas Luo) writes:
>>In article <ROTEN.93Jan8130511@cuba.gsfc.nasa.gov> (Charles Roten) writes...
>>> (deleted)
>Besides, the ROC mid-range missile is capable to hit the right spot like
>Shanghai, Hangchow, Xiamen, Guangchow,....

Well, Steve, I see no fun to hit these places: Yue Nuu TianXia Bei,...
Lao Du said so.

> Still, ROC needs to sustain
>a long term blockade or air raid. Therefore, buying possible western
>weapons is absolutely necessary, not to attack but to defend ROC.

Have you passed my suggestion to Taiwan authority? I suggested that
mainland and Taiwan to form a joint venture: Mainland invests a flattop,
100 submarines, TW invests 200 planes, and hire some managers from HK,
to make a tourist line from NanSa to DiaYuTai. I guess many oversea
Chinese are willing to pay for such a tour, it will be very benefitial
business, well, at the least better than bombing each other.
-- 
The SOS China Education Fund is a non-political, non-profit and independent
organization to raise money promoting the education in rural China. All donations
are tax-deductable. Make checks or money orders payable to: "SOS China Education
Fund"; c/o Jie KANG, 2610 E. 5th Pl, Apt. 1, Tulsa, OK74104, USA.
From: lix@doc.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Illiteracy Rate in PRC
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:54:24 GMT
Organization: Boston University

In article <2B4A62E3.16937@news.service.uci.edu> ygu@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Yifan Gu) writes:
>(my stuff deleted)
>Ok, I see ! I thought something was weired. What would you give from that 
>number the literacy rate ? 
>
>... Teenagers ?  ...upto 19 ?

Usually it is 17, I think. But I don't know why it is 17 not 18:-(

>
>and if most illiterates in china are over 65, I wonder what is the "literacy"
>rate between 19 and 65, any idea ?
>
>I will "pay" for my mistake, for sure. Oh, I am a big loser here. :-) 

Thanks a lot. Please not feel a loser, I believe you will feel better
after doing something helpful to those poor kids, after doing something
constructive.

The officials of SOS (well, they are all volunteer CSS:-) are now
contacting for sending the first batch of donation to those kids.
The progress is slow because they want to know not only the names
of kids who will receive the donation, but also more information
about them, such as grade score, how the donation helps them, etc.
This information will be passed to donators, the GaoGan of SOS
promised me. So not be surprised if someday you received a notes
from a poor village, saying something like "Thank you, big sister!"
-- 
The SOS China Education Fund is a non-political, non-profit and independent
organization to raise money promoting the education in rural China. All donations
are tax-deductable. Make checks or money orders payable to: "SOS China Education
Fund"; c/o Jie KANG, 2610 E. 5th Pl, Apt. 1, Tulsa, OK74104, USA.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: wdm0345@SSE!ocht!oshi%himen%china.central.edu%sinonet (Wang Da Ming)
Subject: Am I virtually in US ?
Organization: ShanHai Stock Exchange
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:13:58 GMT

hi there WORLD!
do you read me ?
if so please say so.
a poor soul in China...
at the exchange...
wdm


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zhang@acs.ucalgary.ca (Youping Zhang)
Subject: Toycot
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 19:27:54 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

>>I was trying to say that the people in Toycot are really doing harm 
>>to China, knowingly or not.  


Can anybody tell me who these Toycot people are and why they do it?  Are
there any Chinese among them? If yes which organization do they belong to?
Thanks in advance.

YPZ
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:56:28 EST
From: <JXL19@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject:    Looking for Ms Jie Min [from J-M]

J-M L is looking for Ms Jie MIN who came from Beijing in 1988. If you get this
message, please contact me in [JXL19@psuvm.psu.edu] . Please......
From: lzuo@byron.u.washington.edu (Li Zuo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Info. needed for renting a room at Vancouver
Date: 7 Jan 1993 01:04:16 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: na
Reply-To: lzuo@u.washington.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: byron.u.washington.edu

Hi, netters in UBC:

Could someone provide me information on renting a room in Vancuvour where
it is close to UBC ? The room is needed starting February 1, 1993. Thanks.
Please reply to above e-mail address or call 206-635-9434.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yma@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (William Ma)
Subject: Re: Everyone should change his major to Qi Gong major
Keywords: Qi Gong
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:28:07 GMT

In article <1i7g3bINN9ej@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> xzh@eddy.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Xiang Zhou) writes:
>
>      QIan may be not a science man as you understand it, he may be a scientist
>at a higher level. He was an excellent scientist and a genius. Before you
>reach his level, don't make these claims. Remember that Newton used to say
>a lot of things about God. 

As I would say, Qian is a scientist. But I don't think he is a good man. He did too much
bad things to destroy his fame.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: mliu@pt.com (Fred Liu)
Subject: Re: Xue Fei and Du Xian --- CCTV host/hostess
Organization: Performance Technologies, Incorporated
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:06:32 GMT

In article <C0Fv5K.47u@math.uwaterloo.ca> rzhu@math.uwaterloo.ca (Rupert Zhu) writes:
>      Xue1 Fei1 and Du4 Xian4 were the most popular host/hostess for
>CCTV's news program.  They expressed their sorrow indirectly during

I would think they did that *directly*, which was the reason people
like them.

>their hosting TV news after 6.4.  They were banned from broadcasting
>since then.  Many people still remember them.  The new TV hosts up to
>now are no match to Xue1 and Du4.
>

The were and are the greatest!  They will never be forgotten by all
the viewers around China.  I firmly believe they will be back!

-- 
Fred Liu, Performance Technologies Incorporated		mliu@pt.com
315 Science Parkway, Rochester, New York 14620		uupsi!ptsys1!mliu
From: liud@hobo.ECE.ORST.EDU (Don Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Help Wanted on Chinese Computing
Summary: GB table needed
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:45:33 GMT
Organization: ECE Dept.,OSU,Corvallis
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobo.ece.orst.edu

Hi Chinese Computerists,

In compiling an application, I found I am in need of a standard way
(and without ambiguity) to index to the Chinese characters. If I
am right, the GB code is the one I really needed. Now my question is,
how do I get a table for the GB code? i.e., given a Chinese Char,
whats the GB.

My sincere thanks to anyone lending me a pointer.

Don Liu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (neptune)
Subject: Re: 9 women among 10 best
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 14:00:47 GMT

In article <KFOGEL.93Jan10053933@occs.cs.oberlin.edu> kfogel@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Karl Fogel) writes:

>	Of course, we might do well to wonder why the heck there are
>separate Women's and Men's Chess Championships... at least in physical
>sports there is some sort of logic to this division, but certainly not
>in chess. (I realize that this is unrelated to the normal content of
>this newsgroup, but this is a pet peeve of mine about the chess
>world...  and what the heck, if you can't speak your mind on Usenet,
>where *can* you do it?!)
>
>	That's all, folks!
>
>		-karl
>

This is an excellent point.  I have always wondered about this myself.
I thought I was the only one.  Do you know that in the international
chess tournaments, women are allowed to play in the men's tournaments
but men are not allowed to play in the women's tournaments.  However,
very few women choose to play in the men's tournaments and those that
do fare only mediocre at best.

I think this has something to do with the power of women's groups in
the West.  They demand equal pay (glory) but unequal responsibilities
(tournament strength levels).
From: tang@kawa.ssl.fujitsu.co.jp (liyue tang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Interesting Picture
Date: 8 Jan 93 01:21:46 GMT
Organization: FUJITSU SOCIAL SCIENCE LABORATORY LIMITED, JAPAN.
In-reply-to: zhang@csgrad.cs.vt.edu's message of 7 Jan 93 10:03:42 GMT

$@%a%C%;!<(J$@%8(J <3989@creatures.cs.vt.edu> $@$G(J, 
    >( zhang@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Yaoen Zhang) )$@$5$s(J:

>> A very interesting picture ( 4 parts ) is posted.  You may
>> guess what the title is.  After you see the picture, I will
>> tell you where I got it and what its name is.

>> Note: how decode the pic:

>> 1. remove the headers from each part.
>> 2. cat part1 part2 part3 part4 | uudecode 
          ^^^^^
Hi, where is part1, i cann't find it.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: harry@wubios.wustl.edu (Harry Cheng)
Subject: Re: Need detailed instructions for making rice wine
Organization: Division of Biostatistics, WUMS, St. Louis, MO
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:23:49 GMT

In article <wangf.726180568@unixg.ubc.ca> wangf@unixg.ubc.ca (Frank Wang) writes:
>In <1993Jan4.162413.13206@macc.wisc.edu> nmrdb@vms.macc.wisc.edu (BEVERLY SEAVEY) writes:
>
>>  My husband is from Guangzhou and really likes rice wine, which seems
>>to be fermented stickey rice still in the fermentation broth, so it is
>>like a loose yeasty soup. We got some packages of yeast from Shanghai,
>>but the instructions on the back aren't very detailed - they assume
>>you already know how to make it. The instructions say
>>1) Add yeast to 4 jin of glutinous rice.
>>2) keep at 30-32 degrees.
>
>
>>I assume we should soak and steam the rice? Do we drain it completely
>>before adding the yeast? How long does it take to ferment?
>
>I'd like to get a recipe for this, too.  I did twice in last week but 
>they were not quite susscessful--not sweet enough.  I don't know the 
>reason.
>
>What I did is:
>
>1. Put the rice into cold water for 24 hour;
>2. Spreaded it on a piece of cloth;
>3. Steamed it for 30 min. (maybe too long);
>4. Rinsed the rice with cold water till it was about 30C;
>5. Mixed the rice with the yeast (bought from the China Town) completely.
>6. Left the rice in an oven (around 30C I believe) for 24 hours.
>
>I did it in China, and it was good.  But now, it's only ok.
>
>Hope some one out there can give me some advice.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>F. Wang


The problems that I can think of are:

 1. Probably you used a different kind of yeast.  As far as I could remember
    that my grandma always uses the yeast from the countryside(I mean, in
    China).

 2. You should keep oil/grease/salt etc. from your stuff during the whole
   process, which means you should wash/rinse everything thoroughly.

3.  My mom could not make the wine as good as my grandma does even with the
    same recipe and with my grandma's on-site instructions.  So ask your
    husband or wife to do it.  It could be better.

This is almost all I can remember now.  It reminds me of all kinds of good
stuff that I got when I was a kid.

Enjoy!


H. Cheng
From: tau@duke.edu (Eric Tau)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Looking for a friend
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:43:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.
Originator: tau@noether.math.duke.edu


I am looking for a friend, Fan4, Jie2. She came to American from Shanghai and
she graduated from the Dept. of Scientific Instruments (KE1 Yi2 Xi4) of
Zhejiang University in Hangzhou in 1984 (Class of 79). If someone happens to 
know where she is please email me at 'tau@math.duke.edu' or have her call me
at 919-544-6241(h), 919-660-2844(math office) or 919-286-5889(lab, 
ask for Eric). Oops, my name is Tao2, Yu3, if that is important :-).

Thanks in advance.

-Yu Tao
From: nobody@no.no.no
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: testing, testing, testing
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:24:01 GMT
Organization: cannot find :-)
NNTP-Posting-Host: apache.dtcc.edu

this is a n anonymous test.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: Lei@bnos.csd.bldrdoc.gov
Subject: Re: Guangxi massacre (Re: Cannibalism in Guangxi...)
Organization: OSU Physics Dept.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 18:44:43 GMT

stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) wrote:
>In article <C0Jv1K.C3n@cmcl2.nyu.edu> yangze@acf3.nyu.edu (Ze Yang) writes:
>
>>>>From 1958-1959
>>>   One million Tibetans were killed by the PLA.     1 M

Don't you try to cover it up for CCP. Only one million? Any reasonable
people would guess at least a couple of billion Tibetans were killed
by you Chinese.

>
>>This cannot be true, do you know the population of Xizang (Tibet) at that time?
>>
>Read carefully from the source. If you have questions, ask the original poster.
>Afterwards, the CCP is the number one killer in all Chinese tyrancy killing.
>The number been killed by the CCP may be more than the total number that got
>killed by various tyrants. Qin Shi Hunag killed millions of Chinese, his
>dynasty collapsed right after his death. The CCP has killed many times more
>than that got killed in Qin. How come the CCP is the hope of China?
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No, the KMT is the hope of China. But Jiang3 Gai1S13(deserve to die)
was too selfish. 44 years ago, he took his troops to Taiwan for a long
nice vacation but never concerned the maimland people. He might have an
excuse at that time because his adoptive father Truman did not sell
F-16 to him. Now with 150 F-16, we are sure that Li Huan of Taiwan has the
capability to liberate the mainland people. And the Mr. See Far's
prediction for 1992 can be changed to anytime when the delivery of
those F-16 is made.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: eng10390@nusunix1.nus.sg (CHUA YEONG WEI)
Subject: One Country Two Systems....
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 04:39:11 GMT

	Well, in the first place, I don't understand why did Mr Patten
come out with the idea of reforming Hong Kong just 4 years before the
Chinese taking over Hong Kong.  Hong Kong has been a British's Colony
for more than a hundred years and only until this time that the Governor
was here suggesting to give more freedom to the Hongkee.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ho@aslslc119.asl.dl.nec.com (C. L. Ho)
Subject: Re: Need detailed instructions for making rice wine
Organization: NEC America, Inc Irving TX
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:59:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.162413.13206@macc.wisc.edu> nmrdb@vms.macc.wisc.edu (BEVERLY SEAVEY) writes:
>  My husband is from Guangzhou and really likes rice wine, which seems
>to be fermented stickey rice still in the fermentation broth, so it is
>like a loose yeasty soup. We got some packages of yeast from Shanghai,
>but the instructions on the back aren't very detailed - they assume
>you already know how to make it. The instructions say
>1) Add yeast to 4 jin of glutinous rice.
>2) keep at 30-32 degrees.
>
>
>I assume we should soak and steam the rice? Do we drain it completely
>before adding the yeast? How long does it take to ferment?
>

Procedure of making fermented glutinuous rice with yeast from
Shanghai:

1) Cook 3 jin (1.5 Kg) of glutinous rice (or jing1mi - da4mi)
   a little bid drier than usual in an electrical rice cooker
   (it is certainly better if you can steam rice)
   * if you like stronger taste, you need to cook only 2 jin.

2) Put cooked rice in a plate or a pot for loosing and cooling
   it by hand.
   * To avoid rice sticking on your hands, you cand prepare a
   cup of cold water. Soak your hand in cold water before touch
   cooked rice.

3) Fill a kettle of hot water (from tap) and wrap the kettle
   with a worn blanket. when the blanket is warm (about 110'F
   bu4tang4shou3) remove the kettle.

4) After the temperature of the cooked rice goes down to 40'C
   (104'F) mix a package of yeast in to the rice thoroughly and
   put them into a deep container with a lid.
   * the container should be made of NON-metal - ceramic, glass,
   Conning[wrong spelling?].

5) Push the rice down and make a hole in the middle.
   * the hole will collect juice.

5) Wrap the container with the warmed blanket. You can check
   the temperature twice a day. If the temp is going down below
   95'F, you can put a kettle of hot water above the container
   with 3-4 layers of blanket between them.
   * the temp (about 40'C) is a critical condition. Please also
   consider room temp.

6) Usually, after two days, you can smell wine around the container.
   There is some juice in the middle hole and some white pile
   on the surface of the rice. The juice is sweet. You can remove
   the container out of the blanket wrap and eat the fermented rice
   now. If the smell and taste is not strong enough, you can wait
   one more day.

7) If you want rice WINE, you need to wait more days. After you
   see a lot of wine come out, you can pour them into a bottle
   and store in your refrigerator.

** The above procedure come from my wife. She would like to
   hear comments from you.

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From: Eugene.Liu@launchpad.unc.edu (Eugene Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: weapon sales to Taiwan
Keywords: weapons, Taiwan
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:32:15 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <mvdvalk.726314577@mekong> mvdvalk@cs.utwente.nl (Martijn van der Valk) writes:
>
> ......
>
>Imagine the following scenario: the mainland starts a (small) military
>intervention against Taiwan because the TI movement has become too powerful
>or whatever reason they come up with: civil war in the Pacific, Chinese
>butchering Chinese for the better of the Chinese people, no doubt.
>
>Japan, loyal to the Taiwanese as ever, tells the US that they will take care of
>the poor island and start to ``help'' the Taiwanese forces.
>
>Result: Japan and China are again at war...

I'd like to know how you came up with Japan being loyal to the Taiwanese? Not
that I don't agree with you and not that I agree, either. I just want to know
how that idea came up...

But anyways. No one likes to see another civil war between the Chinese, I'm 
sure. But if war happens, people surely would fight for what they believe in.
I doubt the Japanese would be involed in this if it does happen.

:E.Liu
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: test
Date: 6 Jan 1993 09:34:29 +1030
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From: kzhang@cisco.com (Kui Zhang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: CCTV
Date: 8 Jan 1993 21:57:44 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Incorporated
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: glare.cisco.com

In article <1993Jan8.044045.23491@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, xi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
|> Watched few days CCTV program through XiaoErDuo (little ear, sattelite 
|> dish), they are so good. The only problem is only one hour. I will try
|> ZhongErDuo (another sattelite), has anybody viewed that?
|> 

Is it available in California ?

How do you set up the sattlelite dish ?

Any info is appreciated.



Thanks,

.kui
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: phsj@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Su Jianfeng)
Subject: Re: Did Jesus practice qi gong?
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 11:45:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.043509.6000@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mlibucha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Libucha) writes:
>In article <1993Jan5.180340.29659@newsgate.sps.mot.com> dwong@chopsuey.pico writes:
>>..deleted... 
>>>
>>>	You haven't answered the *implied* question. If you are in the group
>>>I delineated (believe in qi gong, but don't believe in the miracles), and
>>>you say that anyone can master qi gong, then why can't Jesus have had qi gong?
>>>
>>>Mark
>>
>>I guess it may be better for you to explain what you meant exactly by "miracles"?
>>and also what are you implying?
>>
>>David W.
>>
>>
>
>By miracles I mean walking on water (deep ocean water), turning water into
>wine, feeding hundreds of people with a few fish and a couple of loaves of
>bread, bringing Lazarus (and himself) back from the dead, etc.
>
>And by qi gong, I mean the same types of things: curing people with terminal
>diseases, jumping from the ground onto the top of a three story building,
>seeing thru walls of concrete two feet thick, etc.
>
>What I'm implying is: if some people believe in the "miracles" of qi gong,
>but dismiss the "miracles" of Jesus, there must be some difference between
>what Jesus did and what qi gong is, and I'd like to have that difference
>explained to me. Sorry if I wasn't clearer originally.
>
>Mark
>

Jesus made QiGong masters.


J Su