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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: beta 2.1+reformat
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:50:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.011208.2793@wam.umd.edu> jdowdal@wam.umd.edu (John Dowdal) writes:
>Question:  I know I must "reformat" to install the new 2.1 beta.  Is
>formatting and installing the beta on the 50 meg HPFS on DRIVE 1 
>sufficient to make the beta work (ie blow away the "expired" beta),
>or do I have to reformat EVERYTHING? (if it is everything, IBM can keep
>the beta.  There is no way I'm going to be able to get about 550 megs
>onto floppies.....

Just the expired beta.

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From: mountg@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (George Mount)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 8mb RAM to 12mb or 16mb RAM significant difference?
Date: 13 Jan 93 01:34:11 GMT
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Organization: CS Dept, Oregon State University
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In article <1993Jan12.002548.25711@netcom.com> lyle@netcom.com (Lyle Fong) writes:
>I'm currently running OS/2 on a 486/25sx.. with 8 mb RAM.. I am thinking
>of upgrading to either 12 mb or 16 mb of RAM.  How significant will the
>difference be?  Will it be more significant than an upgrade to 
>a 486/33dx?
>
>Thanks
>
>Lyle
>
>-- 
>L y l e @ n e t c o m . c o m

I noticed a tremendous jump in speed when I upgraded from 8 to 16MB,
but mostly because I use Windows applications. There isn't any swapping
when jumping from windows to the desktop. I think this is a better
investment.

George
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From: Matt_Kievit@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Matt Kievit)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: ESDI hard drive
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:47:42 GMT
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

Does anyone (someone should) know if an ESDI hard drive with 16bit
controller will work with OS/2?  I can pick up one fairly cheap compared to
another IDE.  Also, will it coexist with my current IDE controller?  I have
a 386DX-33 if it matters at all..  Thanks...


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From: u7822042@cc2.nctu.edu.tw ()
Subject: Can anyone set Trident 9000 in 256 colors?
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:47:35 GMT


Hi all:

	It's pain to look nice pictures in 16 colors mode. But so far I

can't set my Trident 9000 ( BIOS versio: 3.01D ) in 256 colors. It seems

a silly problem that the TRI32NEW.ZIP can't let the (NEWER) TRIDENT 9000 card

work.

	Now the OS/2 2.1b is out. Have anyone let TRIDENT 9000 work in 256 

colors in 2.1b ? I don't have a CD-ROM drive nor live in US. So I can't get

the 2.1b to try it out. If it does work in 2.1b, can I get the display

drivers for 2.1b to work in 2.0 version. Thank you for your help.
From: jslm_cif@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jonathan Schulman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Colorado/Sytos
Date: 4 Jan 93 15:19:11 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1993Jan4.001121.4807@spcvxb.spc.edu> benezra_a@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:

>> I've been wondering if this new Sytos software will work with CMSs' TC-15
>> tape controller card.  So far I have not seen any mention of the controller
>> cards with the new software.  Can anyone shed any light.
>> 
>Well Dave, I read the readme before i sent the Sytos back, and it does support 
>the FC-10. It needs a work around to get it going, but it is supported. I 
>didn't recall seeing anything about the TC-15, sorry.

Sytron has never supported the TC-15 card, and when I talked to them a few
months ago, they had no intention of supporting it.
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From: irakliot@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Leo J. Irakliotis)
Subject: LaMail error 285 for *.ndx files (Help)
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 15:45:06 GMT
Reply-To: irakliot@lance.colostate.edu
Organization: Engineering Network Services, Colorado State University

Greetings.

Each time I try to send or discard a note in my mail inbox basket
under LaMail 2.2 I get the message:

ERROR - 285 attempting to save index file [filename].ndx - error
writing file.

Where [filename]=C:\tcpip\etc\mail\inbox.ndx or all.ndx

Apparently this does not affect mail traffic but it is frustrating
to get the message all time. 

I use LaMail 2.2 on a 486/33 with 8MB RAM and OS/2 2.1 6.749. 

Are there any suggestions to correct this problem?

Cheers,

-- 
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From: wbk3a@brain.med.virginia.edu (Wade Komisar)
Subject: Gateway 486 Local Bus Install Prob.
Organization: Neuroclinical Trials Center, University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:38:55 GMT

I am having a problem install the OS/2 gold code on a Gateway 486/66v
machine.  Everthing is well an good until the reboot before disk 6.  The
video is out of synch.  Is there some setting I need to use in setting up
the ATI local bus video that would enable me to continue the install?

Has anyone experieced a similar problem?  Thanks.
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From: des@inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd)
Subject: Re: Prospective OS/2 user
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 10:58:36 GMT

Mike Zanker (mike@mallard.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: I'm considering purchasing OS/2 for my machine and should like to
: draw upon the knowledge of existing users...

: I have a 33MHz 386SX with 4Mb RAM and a 1991 AMI BIOS (ACER
: motherboard).

some people do claim to have managed on 4Mb (and i was moderately hapy
with 386SX-16 with 5Mb till I upgraded), but i'd strongly advise
getting more memory ... another 4Mb (or even 2Mb) should make a big
difference.

386SX-33 should be fine - my -16 was ok (window opening etc took
a few seconds but I didn't mind as I'm used to a heavily loaded
SparcStation at work which is often has similar delays while it swaps
out a 20Mb application!)

: The BIOS i.d. ends with -F which I understand to
: indicate that the keyboard BIOS should be suitable. However, I've
: had some problems with the Coherent OS in that I couldn't use
: virtual consoles due to keyboard scan code set 3 not functioning
: correctly - does OS/2 use scan set 3 at all?

no idea on this - i had an AMI BIOS which had no problem (C&T motherboard
though) and I also had an ACER 486 motherboard which worked fine apart
from the RTC which was faultly and the supplier swapped the board.

: I have a 170Mb IBM IDE drive partitioned as 70Mb primary DOS and
: 40Mb extended (DRDOS 6.0). Would it be possible to install OS/2
: in the remaining 60Mb and allow it to access the DOS partitions,
: or would I have to start again with a clean hard disk?

there is a problem (i think) :-(

I think you will need to install boot-manager to select between
DOS and OS/2 (? do you have something already to choose DOS or DRDOS ?)
and I fear that this may need to be the first partiton in the disk.
So you may need a major disk rearrangement. However, assuming you have some
mechanism to switch between DOS and DRDOS, you may be able to extend
this to boot OS/2 as well.

Using the remaining 60Mb as an extended partition for OS/2 will be fine
- you'll still be able to access both other partitions from OS/2.
Assuming you have 8Mb memory you could make the OS/2 partition HPFS. In
this case you wouldn't be able to access the OS/2 partition from DOS
(though you probably wouldn't want to).

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From: francis@ese.ogi.edu (Francis Moraes)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Mac Icons?
Date: 5 Jan 93 13:22:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.48039
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute - Department of Env. Science and Eng.

dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:

][francis@ese.ogi.edu (Francis Moraes) writes:]

]]I would like to convert some Mac icons to OS/2; does anyone know of a
]]program that will do this? I haven't seen any posts on this subject and
]]no mention is made to this in the FAQ which seems strange since I would
]]think this would be a common enough thing to want to do...
]
]This would be very difficult for the following reasons:
]
]1) Mac icons are not stored in individual files.  They are stored as
]   resources in other files.  Much like the way rc.exe binds icons to
]executables, but unlike OS/2, the icons can not stand on their own.

Ah yes, this was a pain, but I did manage to get the file off as well
as copies of it in EPS and PIC format. I'm still unable to make icons
from it but I'm closer.

]2) All mac icons are 32x32, but this is where the similarity ends.
[stuff deleted]
]In short, unless you've a lot of icons to do, you're probably better
]off sitting in front of the mac with ResEdit (the resource editor) and
]a piece of graph paper and just copy the bitmap that way.  I did the
]system 7 trash and Mac icons like this.

This is probably the best idea. Thanks.

Francis Moraes
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From: c145gmk@utarlg.uta.edu (Gordon M. Keegan)
Subject: Re: Question Re: OS/2 2.1 Beta PDK CD-ROM Now Available
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:20:00 GMT

In article <sheldon.726181543@pv141b.vincent.iastate.edu>, sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon) writes...
> 
>I'm sure this is an FAQ, but just what exactly is the OS/2 Professional
>Developers Kit?
> 
> Why would I want this? And can just anybody get this?
> 
> 
> Maybe I can find a CD-ROM drive to use somewhere.  I kind of doubt one on
>a DECStation would work. :(
>-- 


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	That's how I've been reading my CD's for the last several weeks.
	(DECstation 5000/200) Feel free to contact me if you need more info.
	(e-mail address below...)

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From: nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nishith A. Patel)
Subject: Re: Wing Commander I & II w/ OS/2 2.0
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:17:25 GMT

I have a couple of DOS games that could use a speed adjustment. the games
are Stellar 7 (Dynamix/Sierra) and Arkanoid (Taito, I think). 

With Stellar 7, the game actually ran faster under OS/2 than DOS, but it
flickered, and was hard to control, so it wasn;t too playable. Then I both
tunred off the simulated video refresh (or whatever it is called) and went
from default video to 800x600x16 via Joel's generic driver. One of them
brought the game back to normal operation, with the flickering gone and the mouse and joystick able to be controled properly. But then the game ran slower,
noticeably slower than DOS runs it. Is there a way to speed it up? I turned
off EMS, put XMS, EMS, and DPMI memory to 0, turned on ROM to RAM, and set
idle sensitivity to 100. the Video ROM emulation setting didn't make a diffeither way.

With Arkanoid, the game is just off timing. It blinks wildly, and the game is unplyable.

Does anyone else use these games, did you get them working right if so? 
I just started fine tuning my DOS apps, so I might get them fixed later, I don't
know. But I couldn't think of anything for these two yet.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Reformat needed to install 2.1 over 2.1 beta?
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:42:14 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1993Jan5.024123.25620@midway.uchicago.edu> pynq@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
> 
> Well, I just got the 2.1 beta CD and started reading the notes that came
> with it.  There seem to be references to a sort of "chicken-and-egg"
> problem, that makes it sound like you *do* need your current version of
> OS/2 in order to install the beta from the CD.  That is, there are
> references to needing the CD to be set up and supported (I.e., OS/2
> drivers installed and working) in order for the install of the beta from
> CD to work.  Have I got this right?  (I hope this is *not* the case, and
> that I am misreading things...)

I think that it might be wise to extract the disk images from the CD and get
them all on to floppies before you tried to install......this means you only
have to be able to access your CD-ROM from a DOS session in order to get what
you need.
 
If you have a CD accessible from OS/2, then you probably can install it direct
from the CD.....though recovery in the event of a failed install would be a
pain in the butt.
 
Steve
 
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From: lyle@netcom.com (Lyle Fong)
Subject: 486/SX for OS/2 adequate?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:21:00 GMT

I used to run OS/2 2.0 on my 386/33.. it was running 'ok', but definitely
still slow.. (One of the reasons I decided to take OS/2 off the HD)
Now I have a 486/sx-25.. Will it be faster than my 386 for running OS2?
Or the same? or even slower?  Will a 486/33 make THAT big of a difference?
How much noticable difference will there be with a 486/50sx2?

err.. I meant dx2 in the last line..

Thanks

lyle@netcom.com

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From: kitchin@lf.hp.com (Bruce Kitchin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 2.1 beta:  is it possible to install directly from the cd-rom?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 18:00:24 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard Santa Clara Site
NNTP-Posting-Host: eden.lf.hp.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.2 PL7]

Andy Poulsen (apoulsen@athena.mit.edu) wrote:
: hi,
: 
: from the postings i've seen on the 2.1 beta (since i arrived back from
: vacation) it appears to me that it is not possible to install the 2.1
: beta directly from the cd-rom i.e. you have to create floppies from the
: cd-rom and then install.  is this in fact the case?  or am i mistaken
: (hopefully) and it's possible to install directly?
: 
It is quite possible, I've done it.  And because of some mistakes I made,
I had to do it twice more.  You have to make two floppies (rather than
the full 29).  These are very similar to the first two of any OS/2
install.  You boot from one and insert the other when requested.  After
that, it does the rest from CDROM.  I am assuming here that OS/2 can
access the CD ROM on your system.

If you don't have OS/2 access to the CDROM on your system now but your
hardware is on the supported list AND you have access to it from a DOS
boot (this system or any other), you can use DOS to make the two disks.
It should be able to pick up from there.

It is so much nicer.  You go through the first two floppies and
answer the first set of questions and when you get past the point of
whether to format the hard drive or not, you can go away for a few
minutes while it does the equivalent of the first five disks.  You
then have to come back to reboot the system for the second part.  After you
answer the questions there you can go away and do something for a while
depending on the speed of your hardware.  It needs some responses from
you at the end to finish up.

Actually, they could make a few improvements (there is ALWAYS some room
for improvement).  This is NOT meant as a criticism.  It is just as we
progress we can continue to learn how to progress.  I'm not sure why a
single disk would do the startup.  It looks like you need just enough to
read a boot program from the CDROM.  The current technique appears to load
a complete OS/2 into memory from floppies.  A second thing that would be
nice is for it to get all of your responses at the start.  This would be
a more major revamping of the installation process.  It is also likely to
be easier to do with a CDROM install than with a floppy install, so they
would have the choice of making this enhancement versus having the same
install procedures for both media.

This, not withstanding, I like the CDROM install.  I also had to make
floppies and install on another system and the CDROM makes a big difference.
From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Windows Enhanced Mode Support in Beta 2.1
Date: 7 Jan 1993 20:07:18 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, teague@a.cs.okstate.edu (Keith Teague) says:

>I would like to run a program under WIN-OS/2 3.1 which requires enhanced
>mode support. I understand that this feature is provided by the beta. Can
>anyone tell me how to enable enhanced mode support - or is is provided
>automatically? My application will not install as it cannot sense that
>enhanced mode support is available.


You can start a full screen winos/2 session with the /e or /3 parameter,
or you can give the program an icon and go into the winos/2 settings and
select the enhanced mode button.
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From: rm3@ornl.gov (MCBROOM R C)
Subject: Re: Num Lock???
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:49:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.185935.14816@cdf.toronto.edu> g1nickut@cdf.toronto.edu (Nick Zahariadis) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.182954.12522@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jks4675@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>>Why the #$%@ does OS/2 turn off my numlock key when it boots up??
>>My BIOS (AMI) is set to turn it on.
>>
>>Help, this is driving me nuts....
>
> I feel the same way exactly! I have been trying to figure this one out
> for a while and I can't find an answer. Someone please help.
>
It is terrible.  I've tried using the PM program in a start.cmd to work on my
ZEOS system along with an assembly program to set up the DOS sessions.  I've
had to abandon the DOS setting as the system seems to get totally confused
when switching from one session to another.  Sometimes numlock stays 
sometimes it doesn't.  Sometimes it is functionally off even though the 
indicator light is on.  The operating system, the bios and the function setting
programs are totally scrambled.

The PS/2 I use at work has numlock normally on, My ZEOS is normally off.  I 
like it on.  I've heard others on the net who like it off.  Guess no one will 
be satisfied.
Organization: Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Vienna, Austria
Date: Thursday, 7 Jan 1993 21:26:12 CET
From: FLATSCHER Rony <RONY@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: YES, there is (Re: German Service Pack !?!?
 <23678@sbsvax.cs.uni-sb.de>

Yes, there has been a German SP around for a couple of weeks now. Maybe the
German FTP-sites can upload them (e.g. stuttgart) ?

Even better, let IBM Germany, IBM Austria or IBM Switzerland setup such
an FTP-server (a mirror to software.watson.ibm.com plus the German
nationalizations ???).

---rony
From: Michael.Nelson@f20.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Help with sytos.  Why is it so slow?
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 18:42:48 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:125/20 - SeaHunt BBS, San Francisco CA

Wednesday January 06 1993 09:48, kevin s coupal wrote to All:

kc-> I am using the new software just released from sytos for os/2.

kc-> look for this?  I downloaded this software so i don't have any books.

    You downloaded it?  From Sytron?

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From: lopes@cogsci.ucsd.EDU (alann lopes)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with ProIIs with OS/2 2.0+CSD
Date: 9 Jan 93 20:37:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <726507118peb.postmast@pebble.gentoo.com> peb@pebble.gentoo.com (Pat Bozeman) writes:
>I am unable to get my Orchid Prodesigner IIs card to work in OS/2.  I kinda
>got it working a while ago in 800x600, but when I open a dos session my
>refresh would drop to what looked like 56hz. 
>
>Has anyone got this card working?

Call the tech support, they are aware of the problem and told me
that they would send me the fixed drivers as soon as they have
them. 

Some of these problems have gone away in 2.1, the only one that
remains for me is when openning a DOS Full screen.

                  alann


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From: calvert@QueensU.CA (John Calvert)
Subject: Re: Severe system crash when using SIO_V031.
Organization: Queen's University, Kingston, Canada
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:45:52 GMT

In article <HD37wB2w165w@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca> frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca writes:
>Tonight I just installed the SIO.SYS and VSIO.SYS drivers (SIO_V031.ZIP)
>and after experiencing minor problems, and then 3 severe system *CRASHES*,

I'm sorry to hear that sio is not working out for you. I have been running
it since the end of last week with basically no problem. I have had several
system crashes like you mention.
These don't both me too much but I can see they would really screw up a
BBS. There was an sio_025.zip available as well, but presumably v031 fixes
something that is broken in v025. I never ran v025, just v011 and v010.

>The system detected an internal processing error at location 
>##0160::fffa3bb4 - 000d:00049bb4.
>
>60000, 7016

I've had this one at least half a dozen times in the last month. Wish
I knew how to get rid of it, but I'm not yet running a significant
workload, so it doesn't foul anthing up. YET!

>I am running OS/2 2.0 GA (CSD level XR02000 -- previous was XR00000,

I would recommend installing the service pak. At least one of the bugs
fixed involves the com.sys/vcom.sys and Fossil X00 interaction.

I noticed an immediate jump in throughput by 50% when I went to sio_v031
from sio_v011. But I suspect that might be in part due to finally having
some docs so I configure it correctly.

Regards,

-- 
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