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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 93 16:51:06 EST
From:         Moshe Taube <MAXUS@HARVARDA.BITNET>
Subject:      HP II revisited
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene

A second try at printing Lingua files on a HP II printer gave the folowing resu
lts. English and Hebrew come out fine. Cyrillic, however, displays only standar
d Russian charaqcters plus some customized, but not all of the customized ones.
 Most of the cyrillic characters, customized from the Font tables to yield Old
Russian, like older forms of a,b,z etc. do not appear in the printed file at al
l, just blank spaces. Any suggestion for remedy?

                                                Moshe Taube
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 93 17:07:51 IST
From:         "J. P. Earls, OSB" <JEARLS@TINY.COMPUTING.CSBSJU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CTRL-Zs & gardening
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Mervyn--
"oudjies" ???
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 93 08:31:08 EST
From:         "Gerald W. Schlabach" <GSCHLABA@IRISHVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Hardening counters (XPL prog available; but on NB 3)
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Dear friends:

About a month ago I put out a call for an XPL program that would "harden" all
the counters in a file, including a complex outline.  When I did not get a
response that would meet my needs, I finally wrote one myself.

I am sending a copy to Itamar.  However, since I am still using NB 3.1, I do   t
not know whether this will work on NB 4.

If someone is interested in testing this program on NB 4, please write me
off-forum and let me know.

Gerald W. Schlabach           |     Item bellum nullum argumentum est
University of Notre Dame      |     pro veritate fidei Christianae.
Schlabach.1@nd.edu            |          --Francisco de Vitoria, 1539
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 93 14:01:00 CDT
From:         Tom Cravens <CRAVENS@MACC.WISC.EDU>
Subject:      IPA fonts
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I'm new to the list, and fear that my question is an old one that has
been hashed out at length, but here goes. Has anyone out there found
International Phonetic Alphabet fonts that will work within NB 4.0,
using an HP clone laser printer? I'm getting desperate and would be grateful
for any suggestions.

Tom Cravens
University of Wisconsin-Madison
cravens@wiscmacc.bitnet
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 93 09:54:00 CDT
From:         Tom Cravens <CRAVENS@MACC.WISC.EDU>
Subject:      more ibid problems
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I have two major problems with Ibid. 1) It will no longer do a search
across all fields (it finds nothing at all), but searches work in specific
fields. 2) Whenever it tries to complete a title index, it hangs completely.
This is (obviously) not a request for someone to spend time solving my
problems, but I wonder if anyone has any ideas of what could have gone wrong
and how to set it right. I've tried reinstalling and such, which makes me
think it's something I've fouled up in the data file.

Tom Cravens
University of Wisconsin-Madison
cravens@wiscmacc.bitnet

(Do the NB Informatics folks monitor this list? Hope so.)
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 93 09:24:00 IST
From:         Odeda Zlotnick <KPUOZ@HUJIVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: can't set bold video default
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Peter,
Apologies if this is elementary enough to be insulting, but are you sure
no one fiddled with you contrast and/or brightness buttons/dials on the
monitor itself?
                                        Odeda
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 93 19:36:00 EST
From:         Peter Parisi <PXP8@PSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      can't set bold video default
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I am running NB3 with a gray scale monochrome monitor and VGA card (maybe
SVGA).  Tonight I tried to reset the video for bold but none of the settings
I tried showed up on screen.  I made sure not to duplicate any of the
numbers used for othersettings.  I saved the changes, issued the "load
default.set" command, and redesignated the printer as the manual instructs.
I also tried rebooting by quitting and reloading NB, quitting and doing a
ctrl-alt-del and turning the computer off.  Nothing made any difference
ever.  When I got this monitor I was able to set all the settings as one
would expect.  Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?  Thanks.

Peter Parisi, Humanities Division, Penn State Harrisburg
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 93 11:35:56 -0500
From:         "M. Roy Harris" <mrh3b@FARADAY.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: IPA fonts
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>Has anyone out there found International Phonetic Alphabet fonts
>that will work within NB 4.0, using an HP clone laser printer?

If you own NB 3/3.1, I would suggest that you go back to it to do
your IPA. I wasted a day or so trying to make my French IPA font
work with NB4, but to no avail. Possibly all the symbols that you
will want are available for EGA or VGA display in NB.FNT (as well
have explained at length here) for NB4. Once you have found an HP
LaserJet softfont with the IPA symbols you need, the trick it to
interface the screen display with the appropriate printer font
ASCII value in you driver, along with width values, etc. Until we
understand better the coding of NB4's printer drivers, I venture
to say that the procedure will be difficult and time consuming.

Back to my suggestion that you use NB 3/3.1. You can get a very
acceptable set of IPA symbols -- both for VGA screen display and
for your HP clone -- from Tim Montler at North Texas State. I
can't lay my hands on his address at the moment, but I believe
that I have posted it here (although I might have sent it
privately to someone instead). Using Lodestar, you can construct
a printer driver in a minute.

Am I correct in assuming that you are in Madison, Wisc.? If so,
contact SoftCraft. They have some nice, and quite inexpensive, HP
LaserJet fonts among their user-supplied fonts. You can construct
your own EGA/VGA fonts by plucking the symbols you need from
NB.FNT and integrating them into a stand-alone file with the
editor EVAFONT. I have described the procedure in detail here
(and would not want to repeat it). You can retrieve it from the
archives. It must have been sometime around mid-December that I
posted it.


Roy Harris                          French Language & Literature
mrh3b@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU     302 Cabell Hall
mrh3b@virginia.Bitnet               University of Virginia
(804) 924-4630/924-7157             Charlottesville VA 22903 USA
From: koontz@ALPHA.BLDR.NIST.GOV (John E. Koontz)
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Subject: Re: VGA to EGA font file
Date: 4 Jan 93 12:10:21 GMT
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Roy Harris - University of Virginia
mrh3b@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU, mrh3b@Virginia.Bitnet

> ... It produced what appears to me to be a standard 3584 EGA font which I
> will be able to install on the office Epson.

You mean Epson computer or Epson printer?  I'm puzzled, in the event of the
latter.
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 93 08:39:14 IST
Comments:     Resent-From: "Itamar Even-Zohar,
              Porter Chair of Semiotics" <B10@TAUNIVM>
Comments:     Originally-From: "Itamar Even-Zohar,
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From:         "Itamar Even-Zohar,
              Porter Chair of Semiotics" <B10@TAUNIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Assistance requested, if you can help?
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I thought my reply to John Abercrombie (whose request I had forwarded
to the list) should also be communicated to the whole list. I
fully understand people in distress, naturally, and I do not
expect everybody to be a NB wizard. However, people must remember
that this is a voluntary group, consisting of people who are
as busy as them. If a query does not get a reply from anybody,
this should not create a spirit of resentment. I appreciate the
high rate of responsiveness on this list, but one cannot expect
others to invest hours of labour to solve one's particular
problem. It would be nice, of course, to have the information
Melammed needs, and make it available to everybody.

Itamar E-Z
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Dear Colleague,

I have forwarded your note to the NOTABENE electronic user group.

To answer your question, one has to invest time in investigating
the way NB is coded. Anybody can do that by taking a Notabene
text and examining it with any pgm that can see the text in
hexadecimal format, for instance: Buerg's LIST. Regular Hebrew
is ASCII 128-154. Vocalized Hebrew is constructed with signs
consisting of 3-bytes sequences, of which the first is always
ASCII 255 (Hex. FF). So deciphering the sequences is a simple matter,
but it takes some tedious work to do, and I personally would appreciate
it if Uri Melammed cared to do it by himself, then contribute
the results to the public. I am afraid that I am not able to
do that myself for lack of time. When you are a member of a user group,
it is appreciated if you try to be helpful yourself, whenever
possible, rather than only expect always to get
assistance from everybody else. However, Melammed may have some luck
with some user who may have carried out the desired work already.

Sincerely,

Itamar Even-Zohar
Porter Chair of Semiotics
Tel Aviv University
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 93 14:53:00 GMT
From:         JAE2@VAXB.YORK.AC.UK
Subject:      ibid and orbis and ibidplus, all over again
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Dear Colleagues,
	I've used ibid and orbis just enough to know that it takes a
while to get used to their little quirks.  Rcently I've come across
some other things I wondered if any other NB4 users had too.
	First ibidplus hides behind ibid when ibid's called up; I've got
no option for calling ibidplus up.  These are set menus so it's
nothing to do with path names.  I may not need ibidplus as ibid
accepts plus-type data, but it's annoying.
	Secondly someone mentioned path names.  Orbis put itself
into my custom set, as did the name of my only orbis data set so far,
but ibid and ibidplus aren't there.  F1 to Set to Other to Access to
Ibidsettings and Orbissetting, which is the only way I can see of
inserting this kind of path name via the menu, gets me a message:
install ibid, install orbis.  (Again the program doesn't know I've
got Ibidplus.)
	Maybe all this stuff wouldn't matter if I could open my
default orbis base right away.  As some of you know, it takes
several steps, vacating the process in the middle and beginning
again, and I'm getting less than charmed.
	Any knowledge or ideas?  Thanks

Judy Evans  Politics  York  England
jae2@.uk.ac.york
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 93 10:31:00 GMT
From:         JAE2@VAXB.YORK.AC.UK
Subject:      RE: Notebook II Plus Software
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Gary,
Notebook II Plus, Bibliography, Footnote, were produced by Pro-Tem
Software, then of Walnut Creek, CA (this is some while back.)  I have a
feeling I've seen something about Notebook more recently - NYRB was where
they used to advertise their wares (which are fantastically good).
Footnote was an add-on for Wordstar, so for file conversion that might
be the place to start.
(Pro-Tem in those days were really very helpful and friendly like, well,
Dragonfly?)

And, my apologies for sending an answer you wanted direct, to the list.
First day in after the vacation, first day of snow, and, the British
can't take snow (but it's beautiful).
Judy Evans
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 92 13:34:44 GMT
From:         Tony Hirtenstein <tonyh@IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Wordport
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        I have recently acquired a version of the Wordport word
processing conversion programme from:-
        **Advanced Computer Innovations Inc.,
        30 Burncoat Way,
        Pittsford, NY 14534-2216
        (tel.716-383-1939, fax 716-383-8428)**

        The programme claims to convert all features of word
floppy processing programmes, including automatic numbering,
outlining, tables, footnotes etc.  The latest version supports Nota
Bene v.3.  I have tried it a couple of times with some success; it
is not perfect but I should like to hear from other users with their
reactions.  You can return the programme within 15 days if it does
not suit and if you have not broken the seal round the non-protected
version (there is a copy-protected disk which does the same job but
requires the master disk to be in the floppy drive before conversion
proceeds - it's clever enough not to interfere with conversion from
or to the same floppy).
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**************** Tony Hirtenstein ********************
tonyh@ibmpcug.co.uk ************* West Oxfordshire ***
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 93 22:14:03 IST
From:         Robert D Hoberman <RHOBERMAN@SBCCMAIL.BITNET>
Subject:      Failure to print: clarification
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               State University of New York at Stony Brook
                       Stony Brook, NY 11794-3355

                                            Robert Hoberman
                                            Comparative Studies Dept.
                                            516-632-7462, -7460
                                            06-Jan-1993 03:09pm EST
FROM:  RHOBERMAN
TO:    Remote Addressee                     ( _notabene@taunivm.bitnet )

SUBJECT: Failure to print: clarification

I meant to say that what fixes the reluctance to print is quitting and
reloading NB, not rebooting DOS.

Bob
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From:         johnfitz@IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE
Subject:      Cannon BJ-300 Bubble-Jet Printer
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This is a request for assistance in using a Cannon JB-300 with NB version 4.

I have been unsuccessful in using the printer with the supplied driver (and a
memory expansion card).  I am pretty confident that I am using the correct
dip-switch settings but would welcome contact from anybody using the BJ-300
with version 4.

John FitzGerald
The Boole Library
University College Cork
Ireland

phone: +353 21 276871 x2939
fax:   +353 21 273428
e-mail: johnfitz@iruccvax.ucc.ie

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From:         M.E.Bennun@CEN.EX.AC.UK
Subject:      Re: Text width; failure to print
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              6,93 10:09 pm

Robert D Hoberman wrote........
>
> (1) Yesterday suddenly NB4 stopped text-wrapping at the correct place, both on
> screen and in printing.  Lines wrapped at about 19 inches in one file, 21
> inches in another, regardless of the various TW deltas I put in to try to
> correct the problem.  This happened again today.  Then, just as suddenly and
> inexplicably, the problem cured itself, with both the default margins and TW
> deltas working correctly.  Just in case this should happen again, does anyone
> know why it does or how to cure it?  Will a placebo work as well as an
> antibiotic?
>
>

Are you using the correct printer driver? It's sometimes convenient to
have a driver available which you can't print with, and if this gets
loaded inadvertently then this might cause this problem. For example,
I have no laser printer, but I use a laser printer; I load an HPIII
driver, print the file to disk, and drift off downstairs with the
floppy. But when looking at the file on the screen when the HPIII
driver is loaded, the text width etc is totally different from what it
is when the driver for the Epson LX800 is loaded. I've never tried to
print on my Epson with the HP driver, but the result might be what you
describe!

 (2) Occasionally the @#^%!&*$ thing refuses to print.  (This is on a Toshiba
> 341SL that has never given trouble before.)  Makes no difference whether I try
> from the action line or from the menu.  Quitting and rebooting fixes this, but
> is there a quicker way?  I seem to remember someone mentioning this problem on
> the List, but don't remember the answer.
>
>

I've had something like this. Try changing the parallel printer port.
I find that using Word for Windows really screws things up, and I have
to sort things out when I go back to NB; this means fiddling with the
ports, rebooting, and kicking the cat. But what error message do you
get?
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To get a list of lists, send a message to your closest node as ff:
To: in%"listserv@nodename.location"
Subj:
Enter your message....
List global

--Bob Strauss
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From:         Allan Needell <NASSH100@SIVM.SI.EDU>
Subject:      nb4 and DOS 5 task swapper
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From: Allan Needell

Greetings,

Does any one out there use the task swapping capability of dos 5 to switch
between a communications program and nb4? I have been trying it. It works,
essentially. The only strange behavior is that upon switching to nb4 I find IP
inserted on the command line (and sometimes an ip delta in the text); on
switching to the communications program there is an "H" inserted at the
command line. Any similar experience or remedies. Its not a serious problem
since both the IP and the H are easily deleted.

BTW, there appears be NO! memory penalty at all. I use a 386-40 with 4 NB ram
and the dos 5 memory manager to create a small amount of expanded memory for
the nb4 speller, a ram drive and a meg or two left as extended.

Regards,
Allan A. Needell (NASSH100@SIVM.SI.EDU)
Dept. of Space History, National Air & Space Museum
Smithsonian Institution, Washington, DC 20560  (202/357-2828)
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From:         "Cora A. Diamond" <cad2m@FARADAY.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      task switching
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May I, at the risk of boring some who have heard this song often
enough before, respond to Allan Needell's question about task
switching between NB and a communications program, by singing the
praises of the software SWAPDOS?  With it you can shell out to DOS
(getting back more than 600k of RAM for the operation), run you
communications program, and exit from that back to where you were in
NB.

Tony Woozley
cad2m@faraday.clas.virginia.edu
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              11, 93 1:29 am

ROBERT A ROTHSTEIN wrote........
>
>
> I am only now getting around to installing NB 4.0 (with Lingua,
> Ibid, etc.).  My inclination is to install it in drive D while
> leaving NB 3.1 + SLS still functioning on drive C.  I would
> appreciate any advice on how best to do this.  (I'm working on
> a Leading Edge Model D, but with the original 30 Mb hard disk
> replaced with a 65 Mb one partitioned into two drives.  I have
> nothing fancier than MS-DOS 5.0 on the machine.)
>
>

Bob,

It might be a good idea to hang on to NB3 pro tem, but why not back it
up onto floppies just in case, delete it from the HD, and have done
with it? And if you have MS-DOS v 5, then you need not have a
partition. This is what I did and I regret it not.

Personally, I think that the simpler the better. If you have just a
basic installation (NB and an operating system, say) then why make
things complicated?


Bob Rothstein
> University of Massachusetts
> RAR@titan.ucc.umass.edu
>



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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 92 13:38:19 GMT
From:         Tony Hirtenstein <tonyh@IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      On returning from a distant country...
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        On my return from a fortnight's holiday I find a huge amount
of mail waiting for me from the NB list at CONNECT.  The ZIP file
that I download expands to over 700k, and it has taken me five days to sort
 through it.  What energy on your part!
        The first problem, however, was to make the text readable by
Nota Bene (v.3.1 - I wish I could use v.4 and catch up with you lot
but I face massive, mainly printer installation, difficulties).
When first loaded, the mail file seemed to have shrunk to 91k, owing
to what I later discovered were a series of EOF (ASCII 26)
characters at various points.  MAY I PLEASE BEG CONTRIBUTORS TO
STRIP THESE CHARACTERS BEFORE SENDING THEIR MAIL?!!!  I usually use
Qedit to hunt them down, but it won't work on such a large file.
List handled the file, but I have not found how to make it strip
these characters automatically; so I resorted to blocking the text
from one EOF character to another and saving the block under another
name.  If there is a better way please let me know: I tried 7 (to
remove 8-bit characters) and Alt-J (the junk filter) to no avail.

        Clearly the counsel of perfection is to enter all mail in NB
form, then convert it to add carriage returns.  Not having found a
reliable programme to do this, I simply add them manually - at least
then I know there are no lurking form feed characters at the end!

        Some long time ago there was a message about how to keep up
to date with the NB archive files; and there are dozens of other
special commands known only to Listserv aficionadoes.  Speaking as
an aficionadon't, I should very much appreciate a resume of those
commands, or at the least the command which invokes the resume - is
it HELP NOTABENE?
        [How strange that we use such a crude medium, with its
unforgiving syntax and unsorted mail, to convey the subtleties of
NB!]

        The same need applies to the FTP system, to which I have
access through CONNECT.  How do you use it to receive archive files?
Is it necessary to ask for them in UU/XXencoded form?
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**************** Tony Hirtenstein ********************
tonyh@ibmpcug.co.uk ************* West Oxfordshire ***
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