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From: larry@netcom.com (Larry Cordner)
Subject: Need Don Yacktman's email address.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 22:16:31 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na

Hi all,

if you know Don Yacktman's email address, please send it to me.  Don if
you're reading this, I may have some info you might be interested in!


Thanks,

larry cordner
larry@netcom.com
From: un001@omicron.cs.fsu.edu (P. S. Lakanen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: AC_CHEN - Where????????
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:06:31 GMT
Reply-To: un001@omicron.UUCP (P. S. Lakanen)
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department

Could someone please post the ftp site and pathname for AC_CHEN.

Thanx in advance.

Peter

Peace.
From: pmiles@balin.eecs.wsu.edu (Kilroy was here)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Mathematica OUT[i] problem
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:50:53 GMT
Organization: Washington State University

Can some tell me how to fix an OUT[i] problem on mma 2.0 running 
the 2.1 OS. Does Mathematica on the NeXT support mixed fonts in the
OUT[i] lines. According to the text "Mathematica a system for doing
mathematics by computer" second edition, pages 371 - 375, if you
execute the command $StringConversion = None that you will be able
to use mixed fonts in the OUT[i] lines (i.e. greek and english
characters mixed together). This has no effect on my machine. Also,
I have tried using the STYLE window to set the output fonts, but you
can only set the entire output to a single font.

I can input mixed fonts but I cant output them. Does Mathematica
support this option, or is there a fix to this.

I have posted this question before, and the responses that I received
were that other people would like to know the answer too.

I have written to support@wri.com but I have not received an answer
to this question.


Peter J. Miles            
pmiles@eecs.wsu.edu          
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: fischedj@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (David J. Fischer)
Subject: Re: Image Processing for NeXT ???????
Reply-To: fischedj@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (David J. Fischer)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:16:58 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.181605.8866@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca>  
aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Anthony Berno) writes:
> How, pray tell, does Mathematica import a TIFF image? Perhaps I just  
> missed it in the manual, but this would be quite useful for me...
> 
> 
> -Anthony

	Well, to be honest, I have no clue. But, I do know that images are  
imported into Mathematica rather handily, because every night I see about  
five students beating on the machines, doing on their image processing  
homework. I will talk to the professor who teaches the course and see if  
he can tell me some of the underlying secrets, or if he is willing and  
able to post the inner workings of mathematica notebooks.

--
David J. Fischer : fischedj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

"Don't ever put your brain on a runaway train 'cause it won't be coming  
back!" 
- Mad At The World.
From: eboltz@CNDENEXT.MRS.JHU.EDU (Eric S. Boltz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Looking for a TIFF editor
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:59:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: JHMAIL.01GIISBSY2KW000F9E


I'm trying to find a PD TIFF editor for the NeXT. Nothing fancy, but  
free!


Thanks,

Eric
From: ngervae@next.com (Nik Gervae)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Diagram! Engage! Enough!
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:25:39 GMT

In article <1992Apr4.205331.253@lighthouse.com>  writes:
 
>...Result: how many exclamation points do you see in the name  
> "Concurrence?"

But why did you put a question mark in "Concurrence?"?

:-)

--
Nik Gervae
Software Publications
ngervae@next.com
From: dan@quiensabe.az.stratus.com (Dan Danz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Save mail from the Mail Application?
Date: 12 Apr 92 20:19:39 GMT
Reply-To: dan@az.stratus.com

In article <1992Apr8.141804.18284@dvorak.amd.com> tim@monolith.amd.com  
(Tim Olson) writes:
> Right now, the easiest way to do this is to Select-All on the message,
> copy it to the pasteboard, and paste it in to a new Edit document  

A little-known fact is that you get different behaviour depending on 
the technique you use:

Method 1:

   Click on the message you want to save in the list view.
   Click on the message area itself
   Press Cmd-a (select all)
   Press CMD-c, etc., as Tim said.

   This will get you a copy of the text as its displayed.

Method 2:
  
   Click on the message you want to save in the list view.
   Do NOT click in the text area.
   Press CMD-c, etc., as Tim said.
   
   This will get the mail with all the suppressed mail headers that
   show routing, timestamps, etc.  All the goody stuff that NeXT
   hides from you, but stuff that is absolutely essential when you're
   troubleshooting mail problems.
--
L. W. "Dan" Danz                  VOS Mail:  Dan_Danz@vos.stratus.com
Sr Consulting Software SE         NeXT Mail: dan@az.stratus.com
Customer Assistance Center        Voice Mail/Pager: (602) 852-3107
Telecommunications Division       Customer Service: (800) 828-8513
Stratus Computer, Inc. 4455 E. Camelback #115-A, Phoenix AZ 85018
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: trimble@alleg.edu (Erik Trimble)
Subject: Re: Need Advice on upgrading from 030 to 040 to color
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:59:57 GMT

In line with all this, my old 030 cube has the OD in it (as do all others -  
well almost all others :)  I've been hearing about the lack of OD circuitry on  
the new mono Turbo board for the cube. What Happens to my OD if I upgrade to  
the Turbo board?  Also, anyone know if they will continue to offer the 040  
upgrade kit?

-Erik
trimble@alleg.edu
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Anger and a Better World (was Re: Cool .dir.tiff)
Date: 11 Apr 92 22:38:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: macc.1992Apr11.223803.11344
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison


In article <1992Apr11.175451.11322@cs.mcgill.ca>
samurai@uriel.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy Brockbank) writes:

>In article <1992Apr11.031855.4843@macc.wisc.edu>
>anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

>>Your bigot epithet trivializes and degrades those who oppose
>>*real* bigotry, one of the world's most serious social
>>problems.

>Aw, man!  This is what's wrong with the world in the 90's.

I don't propose to carry on a long debate here on these
points, and I'm pretty sure Darcy himself would agree with
me on the more salient features.  I will grant, in part, his
main point just now.

>Not that I'm trivializing your struggle in your every day
>life, against bigotry, but to draw offense from Felix's
>statement is a little weak, I think, for an adult.

I understand what you're saying.  My complaint was really
about the overly casual way people use words like bigot or
fascist.  The things they refer to are far too important let
these words be used to desensitize and confuse the issues
underlying them.

>Mission for humanity: stop being so offended, and stop suing
>each other.

The over-litigous society we live in is something of a
separate (serious) problem, but it seems to me that if people
were more (not less) offended by racism, poverty, and allied
social ills, we might get more quickly to ...

>We'll be much more happy!

... the point we probably all wish for.

-- 
Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin
Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson
NeXTmail w/attachments: anderson@yak.macc.wisc.edu  Bitnet: anderson@wiscmacc
Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Extra serial ports via either DSP or SCSI
From: poff@vax.sonoma.edu (Someone)
Date: 12 Apr 1992 15:27 PST  
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sonoma State University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Hello.  I am interested in gathering information about devices that allow
baudrates exceeding 19200 baud.  So far I have heard about the upcoming release
of software that configures the DSP port as a high-speed serial communications
device (Yrrid Inc.) and a software/hardware solution that allows the SCSI port
on a NeXT to be a serial interface at 56kBaud.

Does anyone know the approximate price of the SCSI solution?  I heard a rumor
(actually more than a rumor) that the price on the DSP solution is going to be
under $200.  I wish to research both of these devices and compare their
functionality/performance.  If you'd know any answers to the questions above,
please e-mail me at:

poff@vax.sonoma.edu

or reply to this newsgroup.  Thanks much,

--thomas--
From: aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Anthony Berno)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Microphone interference
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:36:01 GMT
Reply-To: aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca


Has anyone been having as much trouble as I have with noisy microphones?  
Now that I'm (trying) to use Simon Says, every microphone I try sounds  
like a hornet's nest, there is so much 60 hz buzzing. The source of the  
radiation is clearly the monitor - I have a "vintage" monitor without the  
built-in microphone.

The only mike I have tried that does not give horrendous background noise  
is a little tie clip number that I've had for a while, but it has a  
battery that will wear out in only a few hours.

Do the newer monitors give out less of a field, or is this a problem with  
all of them?? Does anyone have any suggestions?

-Anthony
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From: SAMcinty@exua.exeter.ac.uk (Scott McIntyre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Neuron: unsatisfied 96+ owners UNITE!
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:22:26 GMT
	<1992Apr1.235745.21594@glv.uucp>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: NeXT Campus Consultant
In-reply-to: jbrow@brownfield's message of 1 Apr 92 23:57:45 GMT


What really annoys me is that about three months ago I posted a message
asking for advice about buying a Fax modem and I got dozens of really
encouraging responses for the Neuron...the review in NeXTworld 
said it was good (except the manual) and that they could reccomend it

So I got the 1414.

I had a few initial problems, but things seem to be working ok so far...it
still hangs up when handshaking data connections every now and then (not
very often mind you), but for the most part is flawless.

Then people start this thread on here...talk about cognitive dissonance...
I buy a product, convince myself I've done the right thing, then
hear that it's a POS..

Has ANYONE heard from Neuron lately?  Can a class action include 
international customers?

Scott
--
mcintyre@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk		Scott A. McIntyre, Cornwall House
SAMcinty@uk.ac.exeter.exua		St. German's Road, Exeter, Devon, UK
mcintyre.s@uk.ac.exeter			NeXT Campus Consultant.
"There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore like a moron."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Subject: Re: Barbershop MIME
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:18:42 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.210235.23356@u.washington.edu> 
           Mark Crispin <MRC@Panda.COM> writes:
> THIS IS A MESSAGE IN 'MIME' FORMAT.  Your news reader does not support
> MIME.  Perhaps you should get new software.

Perhaps you should get a clue.

> Unlike NewsGrazer format, MIME is an emerging standard that is widely
> implemented on many different machines.  

Which probably explains why your MIME post is the first I've seen in any of  
the 38 newsgroups that I follow.

> Perhaps you losers who only
> have NewsGrazer can't read it.  Sorry.  It's your problem.  I guess
> NeXT is destined to fall behind SUN, DEC, AT&T, and all the other
> vendors who have adopted MIME.

We don't have MIME readers on *our* Suns or RS6000's yet, so presumably  
you're also kind enough to post 700K messages to those newsgroups too.

> [In case you haven't figured out yet, this is intended as an object lesson
>  to the "I will post RTF and if you can't read it, tough" crowd.]

And the lesson is:
    There is one person in the pro-MIME crowd who is a much bigger ass that  
all the pro-RTF crowd put together.

MIME does sound interesting, but posting a 700K message simply to start a  
flame war (without even having the decency to wait until csn.advocacy  
exists) is about as obnoxious an action as one could do.

Just curious:  Did you post the same sized message to all the other main  
computer groups?  Will there be a 700K article in the mac newsgroup (when I  
get to that...)?  In Sun?  In the PC or IBM newsgroups?  Amiga maybe?

Or perhaps you just have a bug up your ass about NeXT's?  Maybe (once NS 3.0  
is released) we should all start posting in Renderman files, and tell you  
how shitty your hardware is.  Why must you vent your rage at NeXT?

If MIME is better, it should be able to "emerge as a standard" without  
brainless pranks like this.  To me, MIME sounds interesting.  You, however,  
sound like someone with a personal vendetta against NeXT users (assuming you  
didn't post to all the other computer newgroups, that is).  One wonders why  
you are so insecure about the work you are doing (ie, MIME) that you have to  
resort to being a jackass in front of the entire world.

700K just to inflame an argument.  Geez.  And I thought the guys posting  
icon's in RTF articles were misusing a good thing...

--
Garance Alistair Drosehn     =     gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer            (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute;           Troy NY    USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Files in my home directory, and other ruminations
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Date: 14 Apr 92 10:54:19 GMT
Reply-To: andrew@cubetech.com

In article <1992Apr13.015822.528@asw.com> jayson@asw.com (Jayson Adams) writes:
>  >  	If the user never needs to get at the files or folders
>  > independently of using the application that creates them, they should be
>  > placed in the user's home folder but preceded by a dot prefix so they
>  > stay hidden from view.
>  
>  Sounds great in theory, some users will be forced to see these damn files  
>  and folders (does preferring UNIX Expert mode suddenly not make me a  
>  user?).  This guideline should be reexamined and changed.

"It's better to screw your experts than to screw your novices."... I think  
Steve Jobs said that...   But all expert mode really does is let you see  
normally invisible folder and files.  Perhaps you really don't prefer expert  
mode!  If the reason you use expert mode is to get to /usr or /tmp or  
something, then take them out of the /.hidden file.

Putting them in a library folder is a hack since some people don't want a  
library folder cluttering up their home directories, and some people (like me)  
don't want a lot of trash cluttering up their library folders...  I use the  
library folder for a lot of stuff...


andrew
-- 
andrew@cubetech.com
Andrew Loewenstern            |  "listen: there's a hell of a good universe
Cube Technologies, Inc.       |   next door; let's go." --- e.e. cummings
From: rpajarol@iiic.ethz.ch (Renato Bruno Pajarola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: 88110 megaflops
Date: 15 Apr 92 09:08:50 GMT
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH)

In article <1992Apr14.163227.47879@yuma.acns.colostate.edu> sh.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall) writes:
>Does anyone out there know the megaflop rating for the 88110?
>
>How does it relate to a specmark, if at all?

The MC88110 is able to do more than 100MIPS and about 65 Specmarks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.object,comp.lang.smalltalk
From: timothy@eddie.rmNUG.org
Subject: Survey on future of Object Oriented Programming
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 05:44:38 GMT

Hi Guys:

I'm doing a Delphi survey on the future of the Object paradigm.  
Please respond now, if you want to be included in this survey. I will  
be sending out the same questions for a second round in two days or  
when I have fifty responses. The second round consists of the same  
questions, but it includes the average response and the range of  
responses.

Please answer the following questions by responding with a specific  
year (max 2050). You may answer these questions by editing this  
message or appending the message with the question number and  
response.  


1) When will there be a  Object CASE tool that gains wide acceptance?

2) What year do you see OO Analysis techniques standardized?

3) What year do your see OO Design techniques standardized?

4) When will you be able to buy useful Objects "off the shelf" for  
custom applications?

5A) When will Object Systems account for 30% of the applications  
being used?
5B) When will Object Systems account for 50% of the applications  
being used?
5C) When will Object Systems account for 80% of the applications  
being used?

6A) When do you expect that a background in Object Systems will be a  
requirement 
for 30% of new hires for programming?
6B) When do you expect that a background in Object Systems will be a  
requirement 
for 50% of new hires for programming?
6C) When do you expect that a background in Object Systems will be a  
requirement 
for 80% of new hires for programming?

7) What OO language do you think will dominate by the end of this  
decade?

Thanks

timothy@eddie.rmnug.org
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From: tms@twins.lanl.gov (Todd M. Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Mathematica Problems
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:56:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: newshost.1992Apr8.155645.22633
Reply-To: tms@twins.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab

In article <1992Apr8.130748.4323@email.tuwien.ac.at> root@iguwnext.tuwien.ac.at  
(Peter Purgathofer) writes:
> We have a copy of Mathematica and we cant bring it to work. 
> 
> Version is
> "NeXT Release 2.1
> Mathematica 2.0
> Front End Version 2.0
> June 1991"
> 
> It just doesnt work. You type in a formula (eg. sin(x)) and it starts  
working,  
> rotating the little Harddisk-Cursor and never coming back. We are quite  
trained  
> in using Mathematica on a Mac, and we tried to make it just the way we used  
to.
> 
> Are there known problems of certain versions? Is it wrong installed? Do i  
have  
> to change some settings?

We'll need more information.  Where and how did you install it?  Did you run  
MathInstaller to install the password and build the kernel?

Todd
--
!  "Finally, some good  ! Todd M. Swan (ADP-2 - MS P910)!
!  software for a PC."  ! tms@lanl.gov  (NeXTMail)      !
!  -- Steve Jobs on     ! Los Alamos National Laboratory!
!     NeXTstep '486     ! Los Alamos, NM  87545         !
From: simsong (Simson L. Garfinkel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Is the NeXT Computer DEAD? (Response to SunWorld NeXT review)
Date: 5 Apr 92 16:17:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: next.1992Apr5.161700.8486
Reply-To: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us
Organization: NeXTWORLD Magazine

I'm surprised that you say that 12-bit color is not satisfactory, as you get  
more colors on the screen than with an 8-bit color map.

I've spoken with people at the MIT Media Lab about  the NeXTstation Color,  
including some professional animators.  Much to their surprise, they told me,  
12=bit color is good enough so that you really can't see the difference.  This  
is probably due to PostScript's superior rendering capabilities.

Have you actually looked at a 12-bit color system, or are you just saying that  
it is not satisfactory because of dogma?
-- 

................................................................simson
From: bhead@hfs.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Bradley Head)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTstep metion in PC Magazine.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 09:58:23 GMT
Reply-To: bhead@hfs.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Bradley Head)
Organization: Headfirst Software, Vancouver, BC, Canada

Larry Cordner writes
> 
> hi all,
> 
> excerpted from "32-Bit GUI Alternatives: No Contest", pg. 192, PC Magazine,
> April 28, 1992.  (This is from a sidebar in a larger article about OS/2 2.0.)
> 
>     "Another Unix-related contender is the NeXTstep 486, from NeXT.  Built
>     on the Macintosh [sic] operating system kernel, the object-oriented
             ^^^^^^^^^
	Unbelievable. PC Mag has their head so far up Gate's ass they can't  
even get a quote right. Brutal. They are so far out to lunch, you'd have to
fly at a speed of Macintosh-II to reach them in a decent day :-)





-- 
Bradley Head, bhead@hfs.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (NeXTmail :-)
InStep Mobile Communications, Inc., Headfirst Software Ltd. 
Executive of Vancouver NeXT User's Society, Vancouver, BC.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger)
Subject: Re: The future is not NeXTstep!
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 06:41:02 GMT


In article <4710@cluster.cs.su.oz.au> jimu@orthanc.cs.su.oz.au (James Uther) writes:

   Why does everyone here think that the future will belong to
   nextstep?  Correct me if i'm wrong, but NeXtstep is the first major
   implementation of an object based environment (except smalltalk
   perhaps), and pioneers only ever lead when a technology is new.
   Where is the Xerox Alto? Let's face it, Pink will be better than
   NeXTstep is today, because Apple will have used NeXTstep as a
   prototype for ideas, identified the faults, and done something
   better. (If they haven't then i'll be mighty surprised, i mean,
   what'd be the point?)

What does being better have to do with anything?  The Mac was clearly
better than DOS.  Unix is a better OS than OS/2.  Price plays a very
important role in gaining widespread acceptance.  For NeXTstep to
become the most popular OS, it would have to run on $1000 computers
and sell for $99.  At $5000 for a networkable machine, NeXT is looking
at a total market of maybe 1,000,000 machines over the next 8 to 10
years.  However, that's not entirely bad.  Sun, for example, has grown
to become a $3 billion company selling b/w 500,000 and 700,000
workstations that are priced at >=$5000 (they're selling 200,000/year
now) over the past 10 years.

As for Pink, I haven't seen any functionality that it will offer that
NeXT doesn't already have.

-Mike
From: m@crito.Stanford.EDU (M Carling)
Subject: Re: dat drives
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 18:33:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.132859.4301@nmt.edu> jefu@akbar.nmt.edu (Jeff  
Putnam) writes:
> Is there any chance 3.0 will be released on dat tape?

Bet against it.

M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
--

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From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Barbershop MIME
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:06:23 GMT
Reply-To: glenn@rightbrain.com

Mark Crispin writes

> Don't you think the point has been made?

No, I think that you've just cooked your own goose.  A "point" could
have been made in about 7k instead of 700k.

Additionally, if there were a MIME-compatible newsreader, your point
would be more apropos.  The fact that NewsGrazer already exists kind
of dwarfs your argument, even though it was a whopping 700k.

When you have written MIMEnews or whatever, then please post an
announcement (in the wrong newsgroup, of course :-) so we can find
out how to get a copy.

--
 Glenn Reid        		NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com
 RightBrain Software		415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977)
 Palo Alto, California		Font Hotline: 800-525-FONT
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