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From: bc1w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Barbara Carlson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Protective Akitas
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:07:02 GMT
Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.rec.pets.dogs: 11-Sep-92 Re: Protective Akitas by
Kathleen Creighton@well. 
> >all commands are discretionary
>  
> Yes!  The beloved Akita trait! :-)
>  
> Annie was laying on the floor last night when my *forgetful* friend swatted
> me with a piece of paper and my dog was up on all four legs in a split
> second.  Very impressive.

I find it amazing that the same dog who will stand there to be mauled
(and kissed and hugged) by little children, old people, puppies, etc.
can be *SO* alert when she thinks I'm being threatened (or anyone else
in her family ... including the hedges, I think). The same dog that is
so sound asleep that she doesn't hear me call her will bounce up at
"alert" at the sound of skin smacking skin.

And an old lady clapped her hands at Sugar to scare her away (the woman
didn't realize the dog was accompanied -- she didn't see me at first)
and instead of running away, Sugar does that "super alert and curious"
look and walks *towards* the woman and stands there and stares at her!!
:) Heh. Sort of like "What was that? What did that mean? Are you calling
me? ..."

> Consider it a trade-off :-).

I consciously made the decision not to even try to train that out of
her. It's really kinda neat having a dog who thinks for herself. These
dogs are so incredibly intelligent, it's almost scarey. We had a big
celebration in my little borough -- parade, fire trucks with sirens,
ambulances, etc. Sugar sat there beside me and never moved. Later, when
we were home and the fireworks started, she ran around a bit and looked
at me like, "Don't you *hear* that?!?" I swear she understood when I
said, "It's just fireworks. Nothing to worry about." She laid down and
*slept* through the rest of it. The only time she showed any indication
that she even heard it was during the "grand finale" -- which was loud
enough we could hardly hear the TV -- her ear twitched in her sleep. Ok.
Right.

Are Akitas just sort of naturally brave or something?

--Barb--
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: djg@cray.com (Dennis Guldan)
Subject: Re: Hip Dyplasia
Summary: HD What to do
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:18:16 CDT

In article <M1WCC00.92Sep11092250@mcfss2.fed.frb.gov>, m1wcc00@fed.frb.gov (Wayne C. Cook) writes:
> In article <1992Sep9.082525.25934@hemlock.cray.com> djg@cray.com (Dennis Guldan) writes:
> 
>    > I own a Siberian Husky, and I have just recently learned that
>    > they can suffer from Hip Dyplasia (I have absolutely no idea how
>    > you spell it). I was wondering, if the dog has a tendency
>    > towards it, when do the symptoms appear.  My dog is 3 yrs old.
>    > 
> Dennis:
>       It will cost about $100 to have your dogs hips examined and verified
>    by the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA). Your Vet will need to
>    put your dog to sleep (not dead sleep), to perform the Xray. The Xray
>    will then be sent to the OFA to have 3 independent specialists look at
>    the Xray and determine if the problem exists. The OFA will get the 
>    results back in about 3 weeks. I don't have their address here today
>    but I have it at home... I am presently writing an article about 
>    Hip Dyplasia.
> 
>       Actual I would not worry too much about your Husky. The breed has
>    very low incidence of Hip Dysplasia ony 2.9%. Versus St Bernards at 47.4%,
>    Newfoundlands at 31.9%, English Setters at 25.8%, Golden Retrievers at
>    22.9%, Labs at 14.3%. Only Sheepdogs & Borzois have a lower incidence.
> 
> Wayne: Dennis, do you know the answer to the other question?  When do 
>        symptoms appear?  Also, after these x-rays, what can be done if
>        there is H.D.  I mean, if you can't do much, what good are x-rays?


   There is much debate over Hip Dysplasia, and I an no expert. I only looked
into it because I publish a small dog magazine and I and many people I
know wanted to know more. In fact two months ago I did not know what OFA
stood for... so take this with a grain of salt.  From what I read knowing
if the dogs parents had HD will only help determine if yours will. It doesn't
mean good parents can't have pups with HD but you've got to play the odds.

   Early overfeeding during the first year major growth stage MAY bring out
HD which is prone to it. What is overfeeding ??  When in the first year??

  Obviously an overweight dog of any age will put more stress on the hips.
So keep your dog in shape. But if you have them Xrayed you might be able
to watch for it and be sensitive to it... but there is no surgery to cure
it that I know of... unless you have big bucks. 

  I have read to get a good Xray the dog must be knocked out
so as to not move during the Xray. This has caused problems. This is the
one thing that has kept me from getting my dog Xrayed. And really if your
not going to have pups, and you keep your dog in good shape, I quess I
would not have it done. Unless your Vet can Xray while the dog is awake
yet the OFA says that is not reliable.

  When I get my article ready for magazine in a couple of weeks I'll put
it on the net for all to read.




   Good Luck

  Dennis Guldan
  Bird Dog News


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From: CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: Re: Entry level hunting tests?
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:51:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.113107.1@ccsua.ctstateu.edu>
    kellyb@ccsua.ctstateu.edu writes:
 
>    Greetings,
>
>    I have a 2yo lab that I have trained for the purpose of hunting(waterfowl,
>    upland).Since this is my first time training a dog, i cannot seem to get
>    any farther without help.I would like to find some entry level hunting
>    tests,something that can be an advatage to me and my dog,not just show
>    me what a profesional can do.
 
 
There are several steps you can (and should) take.
 
Step 1.
Buy the books "Water Dog" and "Gun Dog" by Richard Wolters.  They
are pretty easy to read, and IMHO, they are the retriever training
Bible.
 
Step 2.
Find a retriever club in your area that is serious about training
working dogs (ie.  they don't *just* have conformation people).  Join
it.  Become active in it.  Most clubs put on playdays, hunting tests,
and field trails (note: it doesn't necsasarily have to be an AKC
affiliated club - in fact a UKC or NAHRA club would probably be
better).  Check out the local vet offices and animal shelters; they
usually can point you in the right direction for such clubs.
 
Step 3.
Call the AKC and/or UKC and/or NAHRA and ask about upcomming hunting
tests in your area.  Go to the test.  You could probably enter you dog
in the first test you goto (the Junior/Started division) as the entry
level division isn't too hard.  As long as your dog will be steady to
the sound of a shotgun (on a lead) , and will retrieve birds to your
hand, he'll do fine.
 
Good luck.
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From: un@gdstech.grumman.com (Un Fu)
Subject: Does electric fence works on Akita?
Keywords: Electric fence, Akita
Organization: Grumman Data Systems-Woodbury
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:43:46 GMT

Hello everyone! I am new to the group and have a
question.  Does electric fence works on Akita?  
Has anyone try it?  I have a 16 months, 95 lbs, 
male Akita.  I would like to let him run around 
the yard instead of keeping him on a run which he 
is now.  However, knowing their stubbornness and 
massiveness, I wonder if an electric fence would
work on them.  Would they stand the pain momentary
and charge over the electric fence, and what if 
they do, can they get back in?

Any comments are greatly appreciated!  Thanks!

P.S. I enjoyed all the Akita stories and experiences this
     new group has provided.  Akitas, they are certainly
     dogs with their own minds.
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From: 275s@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Wendy Bortnick)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: NEED BREEDERS FOR RED TOY POODLES
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:44:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: oasys.25054
Reply-To: 275s@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Wendy Bortnick)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

Do any of the Net readers know of any breeders in the Baltimore, WASHINGTON,
NEW JERSEY AREA FOR A RELATIVELY NEW COLOR of Toy Poodles called Red.
It is the color of cinnamon.  Also dark Apricot toys would do.  Also
what experience do any of you have regarding getting this breed as a
puppy with a 14 year old dog that is still with us.  We lost out Apricot
Toy Poodle 2 weeks ago at the age of 18 years old.  We also own our
Bedlington Terrier who is very good natured.  The problem we have is
that in December we bought a condo in Atlantic City, NJ at the beach
and the older people there do not want dogs that cause any problems.
 Ours were always good, but this is the first weekend we have been back
after renting it for August and my Bedlington cried for 3 hours when
we went out.  I guess she knows her mate was not there, but at home
I don't notice her looking for her or acting any different.  I do go
to work every day, but she has always had our Poodle all her life.
I hope if we get one she won't be the barking type.  Do you guys think
our older dog will be up for it.  I will separate the puppy during the
day so she won't drive Tiffany crazy.  Any advice would be appreciated.
 We know we won't have our Bedlington too much longer and then this
Poodle would be alone because I will not get two dogs again.  Thanks
for any help.

Wendy
From: bhooper@iat.holonet.net (Bob Hooper)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: NAHRA Changes for 1993
Date: 12 Sep 92 03:43:19 GMT
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)

Hi, Liza Lee - fancy meeting you here. I was a bit distressed, myself, by
the NAHRA rules changes. Steady seemed a bit much for started dogs. I have
no problem with the deliver to hand rule, however.

Bob Hooper [another GGLRC person]
From: yzarn@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (Philip Yzarn de Louraille)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: best age to bread a female husky
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:04:26 GMT
Organization: Chevron Oil Field Research, La Habra, CA.

In article <1992Sep14.214817.394@morrow.stanford.edu> liza@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Liza Miller) writes:
>In article <6746@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com> yzarn@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (Philip Yzarn de Louraille) writes:
>>
>>A friend of mine as a 6 month old female husky. I have a 3-4 year old male
>>husky.
>>We were kicking the idea of breading them.
>	After you bread them, are you going to deep fry them?  Personally,
>I prefer to make doggy-ka-bobs with my dogs, but breading them and deep
>frying them is certainly another option.
>
>	Just kidding--about a subject that I don't actually find amusing.
>Please, please, please don't casually breed your dogs.  Trust me, there are
>many, many, many educated breeders of huskies out there that will do a much
>better job of it than you can possibly do without spending a lot of time
>and energy learning about dog genetics, pedigrees, breeding (that is, of
>course the correct spelling), and whelping puppies.
Well, excuse my french ;-)
>
>>This may be a FAQ, but should we skip the first time when the female
>>will go in heat or what?
>	NEVER breed the female the first heat cycle, in fact, it is highly
>recommended that you wait until the bitch is two years old.
>
>>What would be best?
>	To forget the idea all-together unless you are willing to really
>learn about what you are doing.  Have you even thought about what you would
>do with the puppies?  You are likely to have 8-12 puppies that need HOMES,
>good homes.  Do you know 12 people that will take a puppy off your hands
>and provide it with a good home, much less pay you for that privelege.
>Have you had health checks done on the parents?  Are they healthy?  Are
>they free from dysplasia or other bone or joint abnormalities?  Are they
>free from other hereditary problems?  Will breeding these two dogs together
>advance the breed of Siberian huskies or is it merely a whim?  Can you and
>your friend afford to keep and raise and love the puppies if you can't find
>homes for them?  Or will the puppies end up in the pound to be put down?
>

And this is why I wanted to hear from experts before doing anything about
it. You and several other people who have emailed to me have given many
good advices. Thank you all for that.

>I'm sorry to come down on you so hard, but this is an extremely important
>issue.  You will be creating LIFE and that makes you responsible for it.

Kinda make me wonder why we have such tough standards on animals and not on
our own species....

Thanks again!
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: nunn@sura.net (Deborah Nunn)
Subject: Re: Black GSDs
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:59:01 GMT

In article <moyman-090992180539@jonathan.ecn.purdue.edu> moyman@ecn.purdue.edu (Mike Moya) writes:
>> In article <BuBrBB.DEw@news.cso.uiuc.edu> 
>> 	schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf) writes:
>> >
>> >As the time approaches for us to bring Siegfriend home (like FRIDAY!)
>> >I am beginning to think. The breeders say it looks like he's going to
>> >stay black and that it's not a common color. Are black GSDs THAT
>> >rare? I didn't see many in the books, but then, not a lot of them had
>> >good photographs so I could tell.  Are black GSDs banned from the
>> >show ring like the white ones? 
>> 
>I'll tell you what, I was walking my beagle (just a tiny pup at the time)
>when I noticed a large black blotch running toward me. The owner called the
>dog (and he slowed a bit). When the dog got to me my little beagle was
>scared to death and the hair on the back of **my** neck (and my hair to
>probably) was standing straight up (I am not easily scared by a dog). We
>were seperated by a 3ft high fence (they were playing in a playground
>area), this dog was so big his entire head and neck easily looked over that
>fence (while on all fours) at us. The dog stopped at the fence after the
>owner told the dog to stay. I talked with the owner a bit and she told me
>he was a black (pitch black) GSD (a big softie she said). I think she said
>he weighed about 150 pounds (and he was not fat). That was the
>biggest/scariest/most beautiful dog I have ever seen. I held my little ~10
>week old beagle puppy up to it and he gave the big goliath a long lick on
>the nose, it was so cute. I will never forget that dog (probably see it
>again this winter)...
>--moya

All right!  My curiosity has gotten the better of my (or my ignorance
has).  I seem to be the only one who doesn't know what GSD *stands* for!
Great Stupid Dane?  German Shepherd Dog?

Please, somebody, put me out of my misery!

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: wendy@sq.sq.com (Wendy Harrison)
Subject: Re: Be Careful Feeding Carrots
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 18:57:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.124651.6916@inel.gov> kte@INEL.GOV (Kathryn L Cook) writes:
>There have been several posts on feeding dogs fruits and vegetables, and I
>too often feed my girls these goodies especially raw carrots.  But be 
>careful about giving your dog to big a chunck. 

It is also possible for a chunk to get stuck in the esophagus.  This
has happened to my Malamute twice, with whole apples.  She managed to
expel it eventually both times, but after great distress.  Now she
gets her apples quartered and cored.
From: llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu (Linda Macdonald)
Subject: Re: Saying Goodbye to an Old Friend
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:48:45 GMT

In article <9SEP92.17193198@wums.wustl.edu> trimpe_b@wums.wustl.edu writes:
>In a previous article, hobright@src.honeywell.com (Lesa Hobright Turner) wrote:
>> 
>>>>for all of you out there with healthy pets....take alot of pictures.
>> 
>>I'm overly guilty of taking pictures of my Keeshond.  I sat down at a family
>>get together with three rolls of newly developed film....all of my dog. :)  
>>The family wasn't impressed ;-).
>
>	I can top that... I got so annoyed one x-mas looking at all the
>kiddie pictures of 'aquaintances'- most of whom had the children with
>someone other than their current spouse that I had WALLETS made of our
>labrador.  My husband took a great picture of him in the woods-
>it looks like a studio picture with a fake background(honest).  Anyway
>I had cheapy wallets made and yes I carry one and send them to anyone
>I think might get a kick out of it (ie a usmail penpal or another
>labrador fanatic).  Anyway call me nuts but now I can pass a 
>picture around too.
>	OH Has anyone out there had a portrait taken with their dog?  I
>don't mean the Santa and doggie picture but a real studio-serious picture.
>A friend of mine did once-I thought it was sorta weird at the time but I'm
>considering it for our first professional portrait. Oh yea- I mean dogs
>that are pets only- not the show dogs etc where I can see a need.
>Beverly
>Wash Univ. Med School, St. Louis, MO

Beverly,

I have a special deal through Olan Mills here in California.  I get
four sittings in a year for $20.  My first sitting was Charlie (my
oldest - a nine year old cocker spaniel) and me.  The second I
donated to my brother, his SO and their kids.  Then I had a sitting
with my eldest and the new addition to my family (a one-year old
female cocker).  Now we are getting ready to have a picture of the
three of us taken for Christmas.  We get quite a lot of attention when
we show up at the studio, but the dogs really love it.  The photographer
even has squeaky toys to get their attention.

Linda Mac (llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu)

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: brentw@coopsol.com (Brent Williams)
Subject: Wanted: Standard Poodle & Viszla Breeders in SF Bay Area
Organization: Cooperative Solutions, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 21:36:23 GMT


(We're trying to limit this with 'ba' distribution; hope it works!)

We have narrowed down our search for a family dog to two breeds:
Hungarian Viszlas and Standard Poodles.  We contacted the Santa 
Clara County Kennel Club about getting breeder referrals.  Everyone
we have talked to has been uniformly generous and knowledgeable --
it's clear they love their breeds.  But they're not in our area.  One's
in Far Northern Marin County and the other is in Placerville.  We 
find it hard to believe that there aren't any other poodle or viszla 
breeders right here in the good ol' Silicon Valley.

If you know of anybody else breeding these two breeds, please let us 
know.

Thanks,
-
-brent

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart)
Subject: Re: Recommendations...
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:42:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

>In article <4652@d75.UUCP> vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com writes:
>>I need an indoor/outdoor dog that is both a guard dog as well as 
>>friendly.  This is my first dog.  I was looking forward to a 
>>German Shepard but some people said that the dog will be hard to 
>>train.

  Great Pyrenees!  I was dubious when my girlfriend brought one (a female)
  home, but they are GREAT dogs.  They are gentle and intelligent, altho
  a bit hard-headed.  Their sheer size and WOOF will deter most anyone, but
  they love kids.  They were bred to be watchdogs.

  Ours stays in the house.  They don't smell "doggy".  The only problem
  is the hair.  She does shed copiously.  It takes regular grooming and
  we vacuum alot, but it's worth it.

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From: jth4@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JON T. HUTCHINSON)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Akitas and Sleep
Date: 7 Sep 92 03:10:30 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


     I have two akitas.  The female is 19 months old and the male is just
     barely 6 months old.  Both of the dogs love to run outside,but often the
     female gets pooped out soon after.  I realize that the male is still a
     puppy and all,but as akitas get older do they like to sleep more?  Our
     vet says she's in perfect help,but she sure likes to sleep alot.  I would
     really appreciate some feedback on this, so that my wife can stop
     worrying about her. Thanks!

     
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From: rvele@ctp.com (Raymond Velez)
Subject: alpha roll
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:07:48 GMT
Distribution: us
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners

	I am curious as to what an alpha roll is and how it is
applied.  I guess I missed the message about its directions.  Also,
where can I order a quality dog bed for a 80-100 pound lab.  He is
still a puppy and growing.
                         thanks in advance. 
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From: bhooper@iat.holonet.net (Bob Hooper)
Subject: Re: How do you teach a dog to STAY?
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 02:15:44 GMT

In regard to teaching the Boxer pup to stay, I venture the opinion that
after the stay has been made solid, one should next work with
distractions, [while the dog is on lead] such that in situations where
these distractions occur [cat walking across the dogs line of vision] one
can have reasonable assurance that the dog will remain. This can be a
matter of life or death, under some circumstances. Koehler remains a good
source on distractions, as does Bauman.

From: krattige@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kim Krattiger)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:00:43 GMT
Subject: Re: How do you teach a dog to STAY?
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server