From: s1070619@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (YOGI *is* N.KROENERT)
Subject: Re: What's the relevance of ....?
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:12:25 GMT

theodore-michael@yale.edu (Michael Theodore) writes:

>In article <s1070902.720837927@giaeb> s1070902@giaeb.cc.monash.edu.au (TALIESIN (R.Walker)) writes:
>>
>>>In article <s1070619.720700504@giaeb> s1070619@giaeb.cc.monash.edu.au (YOGI *is* N.KROENERT) writes:
>>
>>>>  Just
>>>> because she has a lot of money, it does not give her any more right to be
>>>> different than the next person, yet she gets away with the sort of things
>>>> that most people would be locked up for.
>>>
>>>This guy is even more of a moron than I first realized, as evidenced
>>>by his terror of people who are "different".
>>
>>Oh *EXCUSE* me, but if you new YOGI you would know that he gives new
>>definition to the word "different".  This  person is not *terrified* by
>>her, he is simply appalled, which frankly I don't think he can be blamed for.
>>What sux is not that madonna is different, sure it's nice to be different,
>>but what we are talking about here is madonna's pathetic vouyeristic habbits
>>of openly playing with her ill-formed genitals in front of thousands of
>>silly drooly people like you.  This is just not on.

>Your sense of the word vouyeur is not really on either - it actually means
>someone who seeks gratification from observing the sexual activities
>of others - therefore, Madonna performing for huge audiences has more
>to do with the audience being vouyeristic. Perhaps you meant to call
>her an exhibitionist.I accuse Mr. Yogi of being terrified of difference
>on account of his being a homophobe, which is fairly evident in the lines
>of his text that you have left out. If he (or you for that matter) would
>like to dispute that, be my guest, and post something here about how you
>support a person's sexual preference, be it straight or gay.

Do you really think Tal iesin really cares about his use of the word vouyeur?
    And, just by the way... Has madonna not done many a sico sex  scene
    with other people... and smiled all the way?? So are *you* not being a
    little simplistic to only consider madonna in her role as a concert
    exhibitionist?? Surely, you, a madonna fan would have realised that
    madonna is about more than concerts?!?

>>
>>
>>> You are a pathetic person, and even though it's not a great movie, do the
>>>human race (and especially women) a favor, and go see "The Accused".
>>>It tries to remind idiots like you that women should have the freedom
>>>to dress and act however they choose without desperate men claiming that
>>>that gives them liscence to rape women. "Would not look too good"?
>>>How about would be completely irrelevant if the women were forcibly raped?
>>
>>So what are you now, a movie critic?  And since when does a *madonna-fan*
>>get of calling a normal person pathetic?

>There you go defining *normal* for the rest of us. If you bozos are
>normal, save us all!

what from? std's? ADIS? tell us what you need to be saved from, and we'll give
it a shot.

>I recognize your attempt at biting sarcasm by acussing me of attempting
>to be a movie critic, but I still think it's a good idea for all men
>who think women ask to be raped by their behaviour (as it seems like
>both you and Yogi believe) to go and see that movie. (I'm also
>still curious about what women reading this group think about that).

I really don't think that what women think about it really matters, as it is
ont often that a woman rapes another woman, is it? *so*, you try to tell me
that men cant get the wrong idea not only from a womans body language, but
also their social actions. Don't get me wrong, I think rape is sick too, but
it is the princple of it, if yo put someone who might a borderline rapeist
into a situation where a woman unwittingly flaunts herself and taunts him, it
may just be what pushes him over the edge... I know if I was a woman, *I*
would not want to face the horror of a rape...

>>You're the one who listens to Madonna, it's you that's got the problem.

>Actually, I'm a classical pianist, and mainly I listen to Bach.

Do you think we care?

>However, I really love the fact that Madonna gets pathetic slobs like
>you upset, and in this sense I suppose I am a Madonna fan.

Good attitude. Get people riled up, and angry over something as stupid as
madonna so they go out and do stupid things... cool.
    Slobs... Good insult... I'm hurt...
    I just hope one of the angry 'uns come after you, not me.



>God's beard drips frothy chaos........
    Yeah, good comment theo... God is a spiritual being if you belive he
    exists, and how can a intangable being, who has no physical form have a
    beard???   Just wondering...

     ***************************************************************************
    * Nathan Kroenert(YOGI).            * "Where the women are fast,"         *
   * Monash University Gippsland.      *   "And the BUNDYS Kick ass,"        *
  * s1070619@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au   *     "At the NUDI BAR!!!" -Al, M-W-C *
 * {[Errors In My Preaching Aren't A Sign Of Stupidity, Just Carelessness]}*
***************************************************************************
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna,alt.sex