HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sjsobol@tiny.com (Steven J. Sobol)
Reply-To: sjsobol@tiny.wariat.org (Steven J. Sobol)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: FAQ anyone?
Keywords: FAQ
Organization: The Tiny Software Company, Main Office, Cleveland, Ohio
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 16:15:43 

marcelo@deadzone.princeton.edu (Marcelo Gallardo) writes:

>	In the past few weeks I have seen countless messages all asking
>	the same questions, and countless more giving the same answers.
>	It seems that comp.os.coherent would really benifit from a FAQ.

>	Would anyone be willing to help in this effort, especially
>	someone from MWC?

I'd be happy to maintain a FAQ if people from the net and from MWC are willing
to help me compile information for it.

Steve

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: rjl@spectre.pub.uu.oz.au (Richard Lindner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: comp.os.coherent mailing list?
Date: 25 Jul 92 00:38:27 GMT
Organization: APANA/ACUG

are the contents of c.o.c redirected to a mailing list? news to this group
here is *extremely* patchy. if such a list exists, please subscribe me.

thanx,

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From: mike@pacsoft.com (Mike Stefanik)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Coherent 4.0 Release
Date: 25 Jul 92 18:16:54 GMT
Organization: Pacific Software Group, Riverside, CA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

pacific.uucp!mkh@overmind.mind.org writes:
: > I just got off the phone with MWC, 4.0 startes shipping today.
: > 
:     That's funny... I called today (two days after the above was posted),
: and they told me it started shipping this afternoon. [...]

That's funny... we just got mail here and Coherent said that they will
start shipping 4.0 on August 3rd.

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Pacific Software Group, Riverside, CA
From: root@dupa.UUCP (George Brickner)
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.unix.* reorganization
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Date: 30 Jul 92 03:45:44 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Dupa T. Parrot, Ltd.

peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
> It appears I've caused some distress with a comment I made on news.groups.
> Just to avoid further flames, let me repeat it emphasising one particular
> phrase that seems to have been underemphasised in the original:
> 
> >>Actually, I was going to suggest pulling comp.os.{minix,linux,coherent} into
> >>the comp.unix world, IF THAT'S OK WITH THE READERSHIP OF THOSE GROUPS. That'
>                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> [stuff deleted]
>
  If your suggestion is only to change comp.os.coherent to comp.unix.coherent,
then I have no objections. Just as long as I can avoid adding the entire
comp.unix* structure to my newsfeed. A 30mb harddisk is a tad limiting
sometimes.

	-George
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Reading DOS partitions under 4.0
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:48:27 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <9207280839.AA07983@dalek.mwc.com> "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet> writes:
>>
>> Does anyone know if Coh 4.0 will be able to read large DOS partitions
>> (200 mbyte or larger)?
>
>The dos command for 4.0 has been greatly enhanced to read larger partitions
>as well as dos 5.0 partitions. 200 mbytes? You'll have to try it, we aren't
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>running any dos partitions that large.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And thus your sanity is still intact. :-)

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Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Newsreader nn ported to Coherent 4.0
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:19:55 GMT
Organization: umunk (private)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

marcelo@deadzone.princeton.edu (Marcelo Gallardo) writes:
: In <9207227789@umunk.GUN.de> udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk) writes:
: 
: 	Just so you all know the latest version of nn is 6.4.16. Big
[...]

Thanks for the hint, but 6.3.8 is the latest release I could find.
Where can I get 6.4.16 without ftp access?
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: mkh@pacific.uucp (michael hamilton)
Subject: Re: Coherent 4.0 Release
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:16:39 GMT


> I just got off the phone with MWC, 4.0 startes shipping today.
> 
> Thought Inquiring minds would want to know....
> 
    That's funny... I called today (two days after the above was posted),
and they told me it started shipping this afternoon.  The phone operators
must have a handbook of responses to use...

    Not that I'm worried.  Apparently there are so many back orders
that they won't be able to ship *my* copy for a month!  By then 4.0 will
certainly be out.

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mkh@pacific.jpl.nasa.gov / oceanography from space
From: patbob@wv.mentorg.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re:
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:33:06 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

In article <COHERENT%92072623264963@INDYCMS.BITNET>, you write:
|> I am trying to get keyboard input in a program, but without echoing the
|> characters on the screen or having to press enter to make the keypress
 accepted
|>
|> I have tried using getch() and even the curses version of this function
 without
|>  any success.
|>
|> To make a long story short, this is just for a routine that waits for a key
 pre
|> ss then sends this key to a case select where routines are chosen according
 to
|> input.  But I find it a real pain to have to press ENTER after the key to
 make
|> it accepted.

	Last time I tried to do this, I found out that you need to use cbreak
mode and turn off character echoing (echoe I believe).  Cbreak mode is the one
where the tty driver dosen't do any character processing and passes each
character pressed directly on without waiting for a carriage return.  Curse
provides some
convenient ways to do this, but as I recall, one had to pretty much uses curses
 to
get it to work (the routines that curses provide want to squirrel away terminal
settings and teh like.. as I recall, that storage is part of the screen
structure).
	I don't know what Coherent uses since it is such an old version of Unix.
Read the man page for stty to see what you need (can even use stty on a
terminal session to test what modes you want).  You will need to do the
appropiate ioctl() calls to set these modes.
	One large problem about the ioctl calls is that they are not well
documented.. maybe Coherent's manual is better than most systems in this
 reguard.

hope this helps,
Pat White (patbob@techbook.com | patbob@mentorg.com)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: dtodd@titan.ucc.umass.edu (David M. Todd)
Subject: Backup 3.x Restore 4.x
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:40:42 GMT


If I want to make backups under 3.x and make sure I can restore them
under 4.0, are there any preferred backup modes, or options to stay away
from?  (ustar, cpio, pax, gnutar)?
From: bob@dalek.mwc.com (Bob Hemedinger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: port problem
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:18:36 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

> >>When I first tried to contact support@mwc.com, I forgot the serial number
 and
> >>I too wondered why they didn't respond.  Then I resent the message with my
> >>serial number and received an answer the next day.
> >
> >No wonder I've had such poor luck with support@mwc.com!
> >
> >It would be nice if this were made clear!  This is the first time I've
> >heard or seen anything that says anything about including the
> >serial #!
> >
> I second the motion. MWC, if your listening, take heed. They *don't* mention
> that you need your serial number inside the front cover of the Install
> notes, and that is where I got my email addresses from. At least a bounce
> message or a note saying that they could only reply further if you send
> your serial # would be better then your mail disappearing to /dev/null.

Hold on a minute...

support@mwc does its best to respond to all mail to support. If you are
having difficulty getting a response, send email DIRECTLY to one of the
techies at mwc. A general "I'm not getting any replies from support@mwc"
does not help us find out why someone wasn't replied to, as one of several
persons may be responding to a given message. Messages can be sent directly
to bob, doug, ed or abner @mwc.com, but PLEASE, only directly mail one of us
if you don't get a reply from support@mwc.com or you prefer to communicate
consistently with one person. Please don't send mail to all of us thinking
that a reply will be guaranteed. If anything, you'll have everyone here
thinking that someone else will respond, and there won't be any response at all.

We aren't gun-ho about seeing serial numbers before replying to mail to
support@mwc.com. For now (on the phones), we look for serial numbers randomly
or when we suspect that someone isn't a legitimate owner of COHERENT. With
the exception of mwcbbs (at times), we have not applied this to mail
to support@mwc.com.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: joachim@jr.rhein-main.de (Joachim Riedel)
Subject: Re: Int vs. Polling Disk Access
Organization: The European Coherent Support BBS
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 18:14:30 GMT

thigpen@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Keith Thigpen) writes:
: I got my D: hard drive up, and Coherent installed. After copying some of
: the raven software onto the Coh drive, I tried to uncompress (with a work
: file), and it must have taken over 15 minutes to uncompress the file.
: interrupt based access to polled access? PLEASE say that I don't have to 
: reinstall.

I think the file you got was compressed 16-bit. Then you'll need the -w
option. You don't have to reinstall. It's totally normal :-((
Expect 2 hours for a 500 k 16bit-compressed file to unpack.
Coherent 4.0 is a bit faster because you do not need the -w option in most
cases.
So don't worry :-))

Cheers,

Joachim

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| Geschwister-Scholl-Str. 48 +----------------------------------------------|
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From: haug@zesi.do.open.de (Haug Buerger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: MWC distribution
Date: 20 Jul 92 20:44:44 GMT
Organization: private

Hi,

first excuse my faulty english! I havn't installed spell
because my harddisk is to small. I think you can understand
what i want to say, if not you can write me a mail. I'll
spend my few time to explain it.

Using credit cards for me is unsave. As far as i know, the 
company who has my creditcard number can get as mutch money
as it wants until my limit is reached. If they have my money
i see no change to get it back. And as far as i know, most things
are paid cache or with check in germany.

The price from the eMedia is not so bad. The update costs $60+$35 
*1.6=152DM from MWC and 169DM+6DM=175DM from eMedia. I called
eMedia and they told me that there is an update information if
MWC ships Coherent 4.0. The support is not so bad, eMedia has
made a short german installationguide (20p) for the 3.2 version.
I have not tested the telephone support.
But that's not the thing i want to point out. Coherent is cheap,
but it could be cheaper (1-5DM) if MWC gives the foreign support
to the national distributers. MWC can save all the oversea letters,
and i think it would be cheaper to ship a big package of copies
to the local distributer. My news was an information for the
german Coherent user and a hint for MWC to save money.

Haug


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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.unix.* reorganization
From: cs.dal.ca!iisat!duncan!root  (David John Murdoch)
Organization: Duncan Computer Centre and Home Brewery
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 15:09:41 GMT
Reply-To: root@duncan.UUCP (David John Murdoch)

In article <1992Jul24.192734.18574@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov> thigpen@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Keith Thigpen) writes:
>mfaurot@phzzzt.uucp (Michael Faurot) writes:
>
>>Not trying to flame here, but using that old time worn phrase, "If it ain't
>>broke, don't fix it."  In other words, I like things just the way they are
>>now, and don't feel there's any need to reorganize (IMHO).
>>-- 
>>+--------------------+-------------------------------------------------------+
>>|   Michael Faurot   | Domain: mfaurot@phzzzt.UUCP		             |
>>|   ------- ------   | UUCP: uunet!media!ka3ovk!irscscm!bogart!phzzzt!mfaurot|
>>+--------------------+-------------------------------------------------------+
>
>Hear, hear. I fully agree.
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Same opinion here. It's fine as it is. Leave it alone.

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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Newsreader nn ported to Coherent 4.0
Keywords: newsreader, nn, Coherent
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:14:45 GMT
Organization: umunk (private)

Hello all,
this posting is done with the newsreader nn release 6.3.8 running
under Coherent 4.0-beta. After playing around with this beast
I'll send it to MWC.
Best regards,

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent,comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: OS compare (Unix/clone)
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 12:16:01 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <1992Jul24.001255.13675@csx.cciw.ca> hcp@csx.cciw.ca (H.C. Pulley) writes:
>In article <michaelv.711923616@vincent1.iastate.edu> michaelv@iastate.edu (Michael L. VanLoon) writes:
>>As someone said, don't forget 386BSD.
>>
>>P.S.  You canNOT run _any_ real multiprocessing operating system on an
>>XT.  It can't even be done well on a 286 (witness DesqView and Coherent
>>3.X).  You need at least a 386sx if you want to do unix in any
>>reasonable fashion.
>
>Just where do you get off saying this???
>
>If you mean multi-processing as in multiple processors, then no current PC
>unix-like OS will do it.

That's not quite true.  SCO MPX is a multi-processing UNIX for Intel class
machines.  Multiple 486 cards from Corollary can be stuffed into EISA slots.
I've seen an NEC 486 12 slot EISA AT box that was capable od supporting about
200 terminals.  It had 8 processors cards.

>AND IF YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY THAT MY 12-MHZ 286 IS NOT MULTITASKING AT THIS
>VERY MOMENT THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER THING COMING!
>
>COHERENT 3.2.1 RUNS MULTIPLE TASKS AND MULTIPLE USERS VERY WELL!  JUST WHAT
>WERE YOU SMOKING WHEN YOU WROTE THE ABOVE MESSAGE (and where can I get some
>for myself ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ?

Very true.  UNIX came to the Intel world on 8088 and 286 boxes.

The following have been popular multitasking operating systems for the 286:

Coherent
Minix
XENIX
VENIX
DesqView
Topview
QNX
XINU

>The day when 386BSD is stable enough to run for a few hours, I might (and I
>mean might) take a look at it.  I like my tech. support and manuals, thank
>you very much!

If I had an "extra" machine, I would probably use it for Linux or 386BSD.

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Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: uucico errors reported using PEP at 19200 port speed
From: cs.dal.ca!iisat!duncan!root  (David John Murdoch)
Organization: Duncan Computer Centre and Home Brewery
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 18:22:24 GMT
Reply-To: dalcs!banke1!duncan!root (David John Murdoch)


	I'm using a Trailblazer Plus with BC 7.0 chip update,
V3.2.015K of COHERENT and V3.2.24S uucico to uucp compressed news in PEP
and uucp spoofing mode from another site. My serial port speed is set to
19200 and the uulog reports lots of errors but my transfer rate is
averaging around 680bps. The rate is considerably reduced at a
port speed of 9600.

	Can the error problem be fixed?

Thanks,

David
	
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: alm@netcom.com (Andrew Moore)
Subject: Re: port problem
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 07:55:31 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <9207212123.04@citrus.SAC.CA.US> qumqats@citrus.SAC.CA.US ( Joel M. Baldwin ) writes:
>In article <9207211215.AA00212@csx.cciw.ca> "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet> writes:
>>Are you including the serial number (of your copy of Coherent) in your
>>messages?

    If you want to keep you serial number private, don't send it
    through e-mail!!  I don't believe MWC requires a serial number.
    -Andrew Moore <alm@netcom.com>
From: bob@dalek.mwc.com (Bob Hemedinger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: mwcbbs program
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:50:57 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

>
> I asked this on the net, and either no one answered or I missed it.  Where	can
 I
>  get the mwcbbs program?  Can I uucp it from mwcbbs!/...  ? If so,
> which directory is it under?  Thanks much
>
Download it from mwcbbs as:

/usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/updates/mwcbbs.tar.Z

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: scott_silverstein@yccatsmtp.ycc.yale.edu (Scot Silverstein M.D.)
Subject: Re: Comments on Coh in teaching env. ?
Followup-To: comp.os.coherent
Organization: Yale University, Center for Medical Informatics
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:09:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.150022.89481@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>,
daffy@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au wrote:
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> I have just purchased Coh (got it this morning in fact!) for a company that
> want me to teach introductory Unix to about 8-9 people.  The company has
> limited budget and so Coh seemed the best thing to use.
>  
> The only negative comment I have heard about this setup so far is that there
> might be lags due to the fact that in a teaching situation, there are 9
> users all doing the same thing at once.
> 
> and does anyone have any comments
> about what I could do to smooth things out if it occurs?  

Put the most-frequently used utilities (C compiler, ls, emacs, etc.) in
/dev/ramdisk.  It will save a lot of disk thrashing if a few people are
trying to compile at the same time.  
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: hcp@csx.cciw.ca (H.C. Pulley)
Subject: decompr16 and trek73: small fixes
Organization: Canada Centre for Inland Waters
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 04:58:37 GMT

1)
A short while ago, a program was posted which uncompresses 16-bit files without
a RAMDISK or workfile.  I found a small bug (causes SEGVs).  To the end of the
last while in main(), change:
...
			tbase=tindex+1;
		}
...
to:
...
			tbase=tindex+1;
			if (tbase==0)
				break;
		}
...

Without this change the program tries to access an array with a negative (or 
BIG unsigned) subscript, causing the SEGV.

2)
The program trek73 on Raven (and maybe the one on mwcbbs unless someone has
changed it) doesn't work as packaged.  The macro 'unix' must be defined in the
makefile (add -Dunix to CFLAGS) and the line (near the end of main.c):
	shiplist[1]->strategy();
must be changed to:
	(*(shiplist[1]->strategy))();

[This may be a problem with cc, since most compilers don't need the explicit
pointer-to-function typing.]

Without these changes, the ships never move so the game does not progress.

Harry

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent,comp.os.minix
From: Petri.Virkkula@hut.fi (Petri Virkkula)
Subject: Re: OS compare (Unix/clone)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
	<PETRI.VIRKKULA.92Jul27231025@vipunen.hut.fi>
	<1992Jul28.154817.5839@mtu.edu>
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:16:11

On Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:48:17 GMT, kwfriber@mtu.edu (Kenberg Frieth) said:

Ken> In article <PETRI.VIRKKULA.92Jul27231025@vipunen.hut.fi> Petri.Virkkula@hut.fi (Petri Virkkula) writes:

Ken> The 286 has does not have flat addressing.  It is still segmented.  Also,
Ken> it does not support virtual memory directly (although, one could probably
Ken> do it in software).  The 286 does have some memory protection, and does
Ken> have protection levels for some instructions.

Ken> Ken Friberg


	Haven't I understood something correctly? Isn't it possible to
	swap segments to disk using Valid and Accessed flags in
	segment descriptors?

	Petri

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