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From: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1 Beta Bugs
Date: 5 Jan 1993 08:48:52 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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From article <1993Jan4.210419.13292@europa.asd.contel.com>, by hstarke@europa.eng.gtefsd.com (Hal Starke):
> The first glich was getting that sysinst.zip file. I tried the IBM-BBS first 
> but the file is not there even thought the directions say it is. So I got the 
> file off of Compuserve and started installing from CDROM.
> 
> Next glich is system would hang about 80% through on command ref.inf file. I 
> can reproduce this. So I continued install after rebooting. Once I got system 
> up I started getting trap D and even trap E. I know its not memory, its been 
> tested, all same speed, brand, batch etc.
> 
> These errors occured about 10 times in 3 hours so I have given up for now. 
> Lets see if there is a patch on the horizon.

To add to the list:

I cannot seem to run Microsoft C 6.0A.  I get Trap D every single time I
run the application.

TE/2 loses the cursor after uploads/downloads (i.e. a blinking cursor
isn't visible).

I can't seem to run the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Windows 3.1 drivers.  No
matter what IRQ/DMA setting I use, I get endless repetition of samples
or complete lockup :-(

Other than that, I LOVE the speedup in Win OS/2 3.1!  Great!!!
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rew3q@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Russell E. Wolfe)
Subject: Re: OS/2 and Novell networks
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:57:58 GMT

sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu  writes:
> In article <1993Jan8.220552.3551@midway.uchicago.edu> pynq@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
> >I just finished installing OS/2 2.1 Beta on a machine that is connected
> >to a Novell network.  Amazingly, it never occurred to me until this
> >moment that there might be a problem connecting it to the network.
> >(I guess I was spoiled by the DV/X install, which automatically detects
> >the presence of, e.g., Novell, and automatically does the right thing.
> >Anyway, I guess I just expected OS/2 to come with Novell support.)
> >Interestly, enuf, I can load SMCIPX, and NETX, in a DOS Window, and they
> >load w/o error, but the F: drive does not make itself known...

You need to go into your dos box settings (settings menu, page
through until you see teh DOS Session button) and change
your lastdrive to E.  That will give you your F prompt.  The
novell stuff all works fine in a VDM (doesn't need to be a
specific dos session).  I have loaded all novell drivers and as
well as packet drivers in a vdm with no problem.  Of course
this will only give you DOS access to your file server and
network resources. , OS/2 needs the requestors that Tim
mentioned.

					Russ Wolfe
					Academic Computing
					University of Virginia
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: widow@camelot.bradley.edu (Shaun Burnett)
Subject: Re: Windows NT vs OS/2: Does NT worth the wait?
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date:  6 Jan 93 22:48:23 GMT



	NOTE:
	Please excuse me if any of my numbers are off.  I haven't read
	up on NT for quite some time.

In <79270@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt7692b@prism.gatech.EDU (Constantinos Malamas) writes:

>'feel' and I prefer Windows's look, but before I go out and spend around $300
>in mem expansion (I got a sorry 4MB) and OS/2, I need some input on this

	You can configure the OS/2 WPS to look like Windows.  However,
	it's been suggested that you give the WPS a chance first.

>Does it multitasking feel like 3.1 or OS2? How well does it perform? Most

	I haven't used 3.1 so I can't really compare, however, OS/2 is
	written to take advantage of the 386/486.  DOS, the backbone
	behind WIN 3.1 is not.  Multitasking is very good, however,
	there are times when it will be poor if you don't change some
	parameters.  One example is running DOS comm program, however,
	there's information in the OS/2 FAQ on how to improve
	multitasking in this case.

	With out going into the "downloading-while-formatting-while
	...." story (although true :), you'll probably be very happy.

>importantly, what are its hardware requirements? (one of the reasons I am
>having cold feet about OS2 is the magnificent 15MB for minimum installation NOT
>counting the swap files...) When is NT expected approx? So many OSs, just one
>PC.... Thanx everybody in advance....

	You're complaining about OS/2's requirements, you haven't seen
	NT's.  Take OS/2's cost, HD requirement, and memory
	requirement (not the minimum number, but the functional one)
	and multiply them by 2-3.  You now have NT's requirements.
	You do get system security and network support included in NT
	tho'.

	I suggest you read the advocacy groups for OS/2 and NT,
	read the OS/2 FAQ, and go to the library and read up on
	articles published in '92 on OS/2 (and NT).  PC Week published
	an entire insert on OS/2 during the summer that's pretty much
	unbiased.

	Also check out ftp-os2.nmsu.edu in the "/pub/os2/2.0/info"
	directory for information on OS/2.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: goyal@utdallas.edu (MOHIT K GOYAL)
Subject: WIll OS/2 2.1 install on top of GASP?
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 07:04:11 GMT

Hello.

Does anyone know if OS/2 v2.1, when released, will be able to install on
top of OS/2 2.0 GA+Service Pack?

I'm just curious.

I'll probably just use WPSBKUP to save my configuration and delete OS/2 GASP
and do a clean install of v2.1.

Does anyone know if I can save my config with WPSBKUP from a FAT system,
and restore it to an HPFS system?

Thanks.

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rew3q@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Russell E. Wolfe)
Subject: Re: Windows NT vs OS/2: Does NT worth the wait?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:12:07 GMT

How 'bout this:

NT's disk space for full install: @ 60 Meg
NT's suggested swap file size:    @ 25 meg

These figures are from my short encounter with the NT beta
released in late october.  The machine was a 486/33 with 16 meg
of RAM.  I say @ because I don't remember the EXACT numbers,
but these are real close.  If I remember correctly, the Minumum
swap file it would allow was 10 meg.  Needless to say OS/2 is
still on my machine, NT is not.


					Russ Wolfe
					Academic Computing
					University of Va
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: teague@a.cs.okstate.edu (Keith Teague)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1 Beta PDK CD-ROM Now Available
Organization: Oklahoma State University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 21:29:21 GMT

From article <1993Jan4.191358.9649@midway.uchicago.edu>, by sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples):
> The OS/2 Hotline (telephone 800-3-IBM-OS2) is now accepting orders for
> the December OS/2 2.1 Beta Professional Developer's Kit CD-ROM.  The
> CD number is 122292, and the cost is $15 (a shipping charge).  This
> number is good in the United States only.  This CD-ROM should be
> shipping in about one week.  It includes the new OS/2 2.1 beta of the
> base operating system.
> 
> If you have details on how to order from outside the United States,
> please post.
>

I received my copy of the 2.1 beta the last week of December after ordering
it just prior to Christmas.

It is shipping!

Keith
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: des@inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd)
Subject: Re: A few OS/2 WPS question
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 11:47:46 GMT

Carolyn Rogoff David Rogoff (rogoff@netcom.com) wrote:
: I've got a couple of OS/2 2.0 questions for the group:

: 1)  shadows vs links:  Shadow objects in WPS seem to serve the same
: function as Unix soft links (ln -s).  However, shadows are only visible
: to WPS's own pseudo file system.  If you shadow an object it does not
: appear with dir in a shell.  It is not even visible from settings notebook.
: Here's what I was trying to do:  I have a lot of bitmaps.  I want to be able
: to use them as background/lockup screens, so they want to be in c:\os2\bitmap.
: I don't want (or have room on c:) to put lots of foreign stuff on c:, so I
: tried shadowing the files, but as I said before, they don't show up in the
: settings notebook.

: Is there A) an equivalent to Unix ln,  B) some variable/path I can set to
: tell OS/2 to look for bitmaps somewhere else?

Shadows a purely a feature of WPS, they live in OS2.INI and (?) OS2SYS.INI
which WPS uses to construct its view of the world.

What you describe needs filing system level links, as in UNIX. Shaddows
are *not* a substitue for these - as someone else has commented today that
they do not survive a floppy copy from one machine to another (though there
may be some util to help) - certainly they didn't survive an xcopy when
I was rearranging my disk during a SP install.

I think the only solution would be a new filing system as I HPFS had the
ability to do links I would expect that they would be in there. As OS/2
does have installable filesystems this wouldn't be impossible. Perhaps 
filing systems will follow the progress of graphics adapters with
VHPFS, SVHPFS, XFS, ... etc  :-)

: 3)  Is there a port of Unix sort or equivelent? 

very likely - probably in one of the files in /pub/os2/2.0/unix/gnu
on ftp-os2.nmsu.edu - try gnusutil.zip or gnutuexe.zip, one of these
may contain GNU sort.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: fritz@ra.csc.ti.com (Fritz Whittington)
Subject: Re: MSCDEX in OS/2
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:03:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.133005.15733@apgea.army.mil> rcmerrit@apgea.army.mil (Robert C. Merritt <rcmerrit>) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.195520.11213@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>In article <1993Jan7.154627.26421@apgea.army.mil> rcmerrit@apgea.army.mil (Robert C. Merritt <rcmerrit>) writes:
>>>Anyways, is there a version of mscdex.exe that works with os/2's verson of
>>>dos? I want to run my CD-rom from a dos window/or full screen but all it
>>>ever says is "incorrect dos version". I tried adding to my dos_version
>>>settings:
>>>mscdex.exe,5,00,255
>>>and when that didn't work I tried:
>>>mscdex.exe,4,01,255.
>>>now I can get it to load in a VDM with msdos 5.00 but since I can't load it
>>>high, there isn't room enough to run t of the programs I have for the bleedin
>>>thing!
>>
>>Yes you can, if you use the memory management files provided in
>>\OS2\MDOS (not the ones provided with MS-DOS 5.00).  See Appendix E of
>>your Installation Guide and/or the online Command Reference under
>>VMDISK for further instructions.

None of the suggestions seem to apply to the problem of getting the
CD-ROM to work under WINOS/2.  Since I have a CD-ROM and controller that
isn't supported directly by OS/2, I would like to get at it through the
Windows route, without having to re-boot.  

My 2.1 beta hasn't arrived yet... does anyone running it know if MSCDEX
will run under the 3.1 WINOS/2 ?


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: lmorris@mdd.comm.mot.com (Larry Morris)
Subject: Re: fed up with ATI need info on ET4000
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:41:45 GMT

In <1993Jan6.015557.1890@wam.umd.edu> ifox@wam.umd.edu (Ira "Isa" Fox) writes:

>   I just installed the 2.1 beta on my system.  I was so excited when there
>was ati support for 256 colors on the pm.  What a disapointment to find that they don't work very well.  for example I lost all my fonts except one, the screen
>goes out sync when switch back in fourth from dos apps(does return to normal though).   I was setting up new IBM value point 425sx's.  The video support for the et4000 machines are ausome. 

>    To make a long story short(I tried!) is tsueng et4000 the chip set on these
>cards.  What cards use the tsueng et4000 chip???

Did you re-install the fonts?  You need to install them for both OS/2 and
ATM.  The fonts are on the last printer disk.  Also, many others are available
on hobbes.  As for screen sync, that is expected.  I assume you have the OS/2 
desktop runing at hi-res, and DOS fullscreen at normal.  Try using the dmode/vmode
or whatever came with your adapter to change the DOS resolution if you want, and
then do your SVGA on.  Personally,  I leave dos at standard VGA since I only
use it for games.

Oh, I believe ATI uses the VGA wonder chip (maybe not the official name) on
their cards.  The Ultra series uses the Mach accelerator chips.  Many
people use the Tseng.  You can buy generic ET-4000 cards with 1 Meg and
a Hi-color DAC for about $85 these days.  I just ordered one since my
very early ET-4000 has bugs in 256 color modes.

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From: kitchin@lf.hp.com (Bruce Kitchin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: SVGA help (or PDK)?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 19:31:09 GMT
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In article <1992Dec18.172733.145545@ipgaix.unipg.it> luca@dedalo.unipg.it (Luca Priorelli) writes:
>I tried to install the OS/2 contained in the November PDK on an IBM PS/VP.
>This PS has a SVGA (TSENG). The installation was OK, but I have a resolution
>of 640x480. I cannot get 1024x768. I think I followed the instructions found
>on the FAQ. I chose VGA during the installation, then I run SVGA ON from
>a DOS session and rebooted the system. At this point I expected to see
>1024x768 but nothing happend.
>Is there something more to do? 
>Besides, is there a way to see the resolution that WPS is using.
 
There is one other thing that you should do.  It is probably is some
readme file or something, I picked it up around here.  After installing
and rebooting (it can be anytime later, doesn't have to be immediately),
Open the OS/2 folder and the System Setup folder in that.  Open (run)
Selective Install.  In the first screen make sure that SVGA is the type
of your primary display (if not, check Primary Display box and click OK,
a box will pop-up which allows you to select basic card type (SVGA in your
case)).  If so, just click OK.  Then the list of things to install will
appear with nothing check.  That's fine, click Install.  It will now go
through certain parts of the install (re-install display fonts I believe)
and after some time it will either install the appropriate display driver
for WPS or, as is more likely, offer you a selection of resolutions and
colors.  Choose the resolution and colors you want (and your board supports)
and OK that box.  It will finish up installing.  When done there will be 
a box that tells you it is done and that you must shut down and reboot
to have the changes take affect.  Clear that box, shut down, reboot and you
should see the selected resolution.  Actually it is pretty simple but
incredibly non-obvious.

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: victor.ng@rose.com (victor ng)
Subject: IRQs and PAS-16
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:58:57 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-07-93 20:54
Is it possible to use IRQ 9 on an ISA machine for the ProAudio Spectrum
Soundcard?  Will this cause problems under OS/2?

Can somebody tell me which IRQ's to use for this card under OS/2?

Thanks in advance
Vic
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From: unruh@physics.ubc.ca (William Unruh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1 Bugs Uncovered
Date: 7 Jan 1993 05:27:12 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
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sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:

>(24) Can a confirmation for CTRL-ALT-DEL be added?  I recommend:
>"Press CTRL-ALT-DEL to reboot the system without saving your desktop,
>ESC to abort."
I understand why but No. CAD is for an emergency when nothng responds.
I have had the keyboard buffer fill when a rogue process hogged the focus
but refused to do anything. In that case asking for an extra response
would prob have meant no CAD, and the reset switch instead ( with the
danger of file corruption).
From: haug@zesi.do.open.de (Haug Buerger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: German Service Pack !?!?
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 20:43:24 GMT
Organization: private

I have heared nothing about the german service pack.
I think the US OS2 users will do the beta testing and IBM Germany
will not publish the CSDs. They may concentrate on v2.1 to release
it as fast as possible. I'm not sure if all the bugfixes are good
for OS2, they have fead the rumor about a buggy system and it is
definitly not.

# haug@zesi.do.open.de (Haug Buerger)
# save a tree use email
From: samiam@netcom.com (Scott Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Lost keyboard input
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:22:35 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

arpw@bcars705.UUCP (Tony White) writes:

>Whenever I go into Windows (3.0) from OS/2 I "lose"
>the keyboard. No further input from the keyboard is
>accepted in either OS/2 or windows.

>I have a vanilla OS/2 install with the service pack
>fixes applies.

>Does anyone have an idea what might be going wrong?

One possibility: you have an old revision of the AMI keyboard BIOS (you
should have REV F). If that is the case, GET RID OF IT.

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From: pr21@informatik.uni-hannover.de (Dirk Hillbrecht)
Subject: Service Pack on german version, OS/2 versions generally
Reply-To: pr21@informatik.uni-hannover.de
Organization: IfI UH
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 11:41:58 GMT

Hi,

I'm just very new in reading this newsgroup (in fact, reading any newsgroup), and I'm just very confused about those lots of different version names that could be heard these days:

I bought the german version of OS/2 2.0 in May 1992. About October, I began to obtain all the bugfixes published through the Internet, like new kernel, new BVSVGA, etc. At least, I got the 14-disc-Service Pack including 32-Bit-Graphics-Engine. But that didn't want to work on my (german) version. In a german computer magazin (c't) I read, that a patch in SYSLEVEL.OS2 could force the CSP to instal, but probably the system would be instable after installation.

My question: Does anybody have any experiences installing the English pack on the German version? Is it possible? Of course, I could wait up to end of Feb93, but thats a long time when you only have 800x600x16 on your 1Meg-ET4000...

2nd question: What is it about all those different versions to be discusses here in the Internet. Is "2.1" the so-called "2.00.1", is it similar to the CSP (that one mentioned before), what is even about OS/2 3.0, that is said to be released in Autumn93???

I hope, anybody could answer,    Dirk

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: widow@camelot.bradley.edu (Shaun Burnett)
Subject: Re: Something is wrong after I install Afterdark (read for details)
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date:  8 Jan 93 08:40:36 GMT



	I don't know what's wrong with your system.  I just installed
	AD 2.0, and had no problems.  Did you install the DOS driver?
	I did not do that.

	I also am using the GA + SPP.


Shaun Burnett		    |	"You can't survive on a new planet with a
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From: heiser@acs.bu.edu (William Heiser)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Boot Manager
Date: 5 Jan 93 04:04:43 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: heiser@acs.bu.edu

The fact that the OS/2 2.0 Boot Manager recognizes the second disk
in a 2-disk SCSI system implies that it is possible (using Boot Manager)
to boot OS/2 (or another OS) from a partition on a disk other than drive 0.
Is this true?  i.e Could I consceivably have DOS, ESIX 3.2, and 386BSD
on drive 0, and OS/2 on drive 1?

Thanks,
Bill
From: williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Kent Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Beta 2.1 Worth the Trouble
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:59:31 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

After making a 33 1.44M disk backup (ick), reinstalling 2.1 beta with 
reformatting the hard disk, I've had no problems at all.

I can even (as I'm doing now) run Pro Yam in a DOS box going 9600 baud,
and have disk activity in the background, even though I don't have
16550's, and I am still using the int 13 scsi driver.

So it is noticably better than 2.0+CSD.  Take heart people, they are making
progress.
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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Radius XGA-2 board
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:33:45 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1993Jan8.062822.3642@netcom.com> samiam@netcom.com (Scott Moore) writes:
>dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
>>A VESA-compliant version of the XGA board is impossible.  VESA specs
>>only apply to frame-buffer based boards, not to coprocessor-based
>>ones.  The VESA specs would sap the XGA of all it's performance.
>
>I beleive he was referring to the VESA local bus standard, which is certainly
>possible and would be quite fast.

My mistake.  I was unaware that VESA also had a bust standard.  I
thought it was just a software spec.
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