HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Howard Chu)
Subject: Re: Good old Darek
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:02:57 GMT

In article <72912@cup.portal.com> Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes:
>An immature child apparently using someone else's account
>(csullogg@cc4.crl.aecl.ca) wrote:
> 
>(Just for example)
> 
>>>What your close minded little message doesn't point out is that most
>>>PCs (or Mac or Amigas for that matter) are not disposable computers
>>>like the Atari ST is. An upgrade typically involves replacing a card
>>>or plugging in a new card, not throwing away the whole computer and
>>>buying another one.

>>******************************************************************
>>*        The paragraph above is just PURE bullshit               *
>>******************************************************************
>
>That's what I love about dyed-in-the-wool, die-hard, card-carrying
>Atari Cheerleaders...  their clear, lucic and factual arguments to
>support their positions.

Well, I was willing to let that one go, since it seemed to have been
elaborated on sufficiently, already.

For the gory details, let's look at Mac history. The original Mac, released
in 1984, came with 64K ROM and 128K RAM. This configuration was too tiny for
the compiler to run in, and as a result, all Mac software development had to
be cross-compiled from Lisas. To upgrade this system, you could get some 3rd
party gear (Levco and Hyperdrive spring to mind) and butcher the boards to
cram in 512K and a 10 or 20 meg hard drive. A year or so later Apple repented
their erring ways and released the Fat Mac, which also came with a whopping
512K of RAM, but still the same old 8-1/2" 512x342 screen. Ok, so later we see
the Mac Plus, with an astounding 1MB of RAM, and a 128K ROM. You could upgrade
your Fat Macs to Mac Plus's by, guess what, ripping out the motherboard and
sending it back to Apple to get a new one. Same story again when the SE was
introduced, etc. etc.

At least with the ST, you had a usable memory configuration from the start
(512K and 1MB in '85) and space on the board to upgrade to a full 4 MB,
without *requiring* you to jury-rig the RAM... And a real DMA bus for adding
a hard drive, instead of soldering a hard drive interface onto the CPU pins...
I dunno about the Amiga, but anyone who claims that Macs are genuinely
upgradable is either a moron or has been brainwashed by the idiotic Apple
propaganda.

The point being - we've already rehashed time and time again how "upgradeable"
PCs are. But to claim that Macs are upgradable *is* just pure BS, in my book.
You throw away the motherboard and buy a new one. There's no *computer* left
in that case when the motherboard is pulled out, just a bunch of inert plastic
and a wimpy power supply that overheated and burned out in 40% of the
production runs.
-- 
  -- Howard Chu @ Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA

There's a rough border between genius and insanity, but I'm a dual citizen.
Xref: sparky comp.sys.atari.st:19280 comp.sys.mac.misc:21432
From: anisko@usdtsg.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (anisko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Spectre GCR (Mac+ emulator) vs. Mac MS-Word 5.1???
Date: 6 Jan 93 13:38:44 GMT
Reply-To: anisko@usdtsg.UUCP ()
Distribution: na
Organization: NCR Corporation, Dayton

In article <72964@cup.portal.com> Dave_Ninjajr_Flory@cup.portal.com writes:
>6.0.5 is latest system recommended by Gadgets for use with the GCR. The 
>GCR is seen as a Mac Plus and that is the system suggested for the 
>Mac Plus.

   As I'm not totally familiar with the MAC world, can someone tell
me what the difference is between a MAC PLUS and a MAC 512E (I think that's
the other one;  the two are toggled via ALT-keypad+ and ALT-keypad-).
I'm just curious as to why there is that choice (at least in version 2.65)...

				Robert Anisko
				anisko@usdtsg.daytonoh.ncr.com

"there's nothing sure in life but Death and Texas" - Kelly Bundy
From: mapmh@gdr.bath.ac.uk (M Hagger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: NEW ATARI SUPPORT Part 2
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:50:35 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, hutch@bellman.lanl.gov writes:
>>>....., USA isn't the only country on this planet...
>>
>> Well, the americans belive so... They don't know nothing about the 
>>geography in Europe... :(
>>
>Yeh, sure.  And all Americans (that's with a capital "A", please) wear sixguns
>and deal drugs on the street, too!  This is more "only in America" tripe.
>
>And besides, most everyone knows the captial of Austria is Canberra.  :)

Still, America may not be the only country on the planet, but come on, we 
all know that it is the only one that counts (ooops, better stick in a 
quick IMHO here before I get burnt to death).  Anyway, given that Atari
is a US based company I guess that they are a little more likely to 'listen'
to people in the US ('listen'?  Did I say listen and Atari in the same
breath?).

Of course everyone knows that the capital of 'z' is 'Z', but this is largely
irrelevant.

Mark (I'm from England - and no that does not mean that I come from London).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: tries@obelix.kph.uni-mainz.de (Volker Tries)
Subject: BTX s/w wanted
Organization: Institut fuer Kernphysik, Uni Mainz
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:40:33 GMT


Hi,
I'm lookin' for BTX s/w for my ATARI ST. If anyone got some experience with
this, please let me know!

Thanx    Volker
TRIES@SERVER.PHYSIK.UNI-GIESSEN.DE
TRIES@OBELIX.KPH.UNI-MAINZ.DE
TRIES@V3200A.EE.UNI-SB.DE
From: mm68@unix.brighton.ac.uk (Lost Boy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Does atari.archive have a mailserver?
Date: 12 Jan 93 08:59:15 GMT
Organization: University of Brighton, UK

Yes, the atari.archive does have a mailserver, I use it. For more
info mail atari@atari.archive.umich.edu with a message body of help I 
think it is, to get help on using the mail server and index for the index.


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From: cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Chris Herborth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: InterZONE Design
Subject: Re: re W Magro's posting
	<Z9u5wB7w165w@status.gen.nz>
Reply-To: cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 17:36:34 EST

In <Z9u5wB7w165w@status.gen.nz>, Jon Clarke writes:
>  Well Atari may not have expanded their machines but the 3rd Party
>  developers have. 
...
>  - Spectre
>  - Sound cards
>  - Happy (the orginal) 
>  - All the accelerator cards
>  - Video cards
>  - Hard disks
>  - CD cards
>  - Rom cards/drives 
>  - and the list goes on and on and on and on
>  
>  Hmm this resembles the same sort of upgrades you get for the PC to me

How many of those can you plug in at once?  How much choice do you have
if you need one of them?  If you were using a PC or Mac, you've have
several to choose from... you could (gasp!) pick the best one for the
amount of money you want to spend.  On the ST, you pick the only one,
and pay what they're asking for it.

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Chris Herborth
cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
From: rasas@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Greg Patten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: A.A.U.E
Date: 12 Jan 1993 15:08:25 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
Originator: rasas@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU

jbunch@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Bunch) writes:

>dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett) writes:

>>In article <C0Lp26.4zD@ecf.toronto.edu> alrashi@ecf.toronto.edu (AL RASHID SHAHIR) writes:
>>>Anybody know if anything is wrong with the server at atari.archive.umich.edu?

>>Use the wuarchive.wustl.edu mirror instead of ftping directly to a.a:

>>	wuarchive.wustl.edu: mirrors/archive.umich.edu/atari/...

>I get the same message from wuarchive most of the time..  This is really
>beginning to be a pain...  ;-)

Any other mirrors? aurchie.au (where I am) mirrors the Mac archive.
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From: m91der@tdb.uu.se (Daniel Eriksson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: GNU ZIP v0.7 ported to Atari
Date: 7 Jan 93 03:12:55 GMT
Organization: Uppsala university, Sweden
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Just a quick note: I've just uploaded the latest version of GNU ZIP to
atari.archive as gzip07st.zoo. It should be downloadable from
/atari/Archivers/gzip07st.zoo within a couple of days. This version
doesn't include any really important changes, so if you've DL'ed v0.6
and found it worked then you don't really NEED v0.7. Just a couple
of minor (noncritical) bugs removed.

I also tried to UL it to ftp.uni-kl.de, but the FTP-server doesn't
want to let me in. Maybe tomorrow...

BTW, it looks like Jean-loup Gailly (the author of GNU ZIP) is really
busy right now upgrading it, so new versions comes out almost on a
weekly (or at least bi-weekly) basis. I'll port new versions ASAP, but
due to the fact that I'm doing my military service now it could take a
while from the sources are released to when an Atari-port is uploaded.

Happy packing!

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:37:46 EST
From: <SML108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: NEW ATARI SUPPORT Part 2
 <mcarrico.34ke@terapin.com> <1il0thINNri0@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>

In article <1il0thINNri0@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len
Stys) says:
>The problem is that I think the company would rather go bankrupt then to ask
>the Atari Community to help give one big PUSH.

The question arises:  why the *#:&#: does Atari have this attitude?  I agree,
it's like they ENJOY shooting themselves in the foot after making a really
neat new gizmo...  I'd love to buy a Falcon, I really would...  But
like a lot of other Atarians, I'm still in wait-and-see mode.  I have
to say I probably won't buy a mac.  At $300 for X windowing software
and similar absurd prices for most of what else I'd want, I have no
use for the company...  However, all someone has to do is add the
right few co-processors to a clone and I'm gone...  Don't think that
will happen for a long time yet though so once again I'm back in
wait-and-see mode...

Scott
From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Last time on this one
Date: 5 Jan 1993 17:38:57 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, csullogg@cc4.crl.aecl.ca () says:

>
>As for Darek being level headed and right, that's a crock. Read
>my previous post describing how I am right in my assessment
>of upgrading an Atari vs a PC. Darek is making his comments in
>light of today's environment; not with the historical picture
>in mind.

You are right there, Darek is not level headed when it comes to Atari.

He HATES Atari.  I once spoke with him at an Atari show and the only
reason he was there was to convert Atari users to clones.

He still believes that Atari will go bankrupt, but I think according
to Darek, they should have been gone by now.

One cannot be level headed when you let your feelings get mixed in.

I don't believe Atari should piss of anyone, but obviously, they pissed
off two developers enough to join the clone world.

A mistake.

>
>Why do you think he was an Atari enthusiast at one time? Could
>it be the Atari had a user freindly operating system and a great
>price when the alternative was an XT with DOS 2? Darek is
>way off base in his arguments because it focuses on today's
>market. Remember, I was referring to the last 7 years of the
>market place.

Could it be that Darek had HIGH hopes for Atari Corporation.

He may have REALLY believed that the company could become great.
He probably had higher hopes for Atari's products.

And to hate a company as much as he does, he must have loved something
about Atari to begin with.

>

--
From: anneklin@acs.bu.edu (Patricia Anne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Convince me to stick with Atari.
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:29:05 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <4q55wB1w165w@status.gen.nz> jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:
>wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Natuerlich!) writes:
>
>> In article <H.ea.o3KuEmskWp2@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> cherborth@semprin
>> >I'd like to hear some arguments convincing me to stay with a sinking
>> >ship, Atari.
>> Why doncha buy a nice Mac and **** off ? If you need convincing the Atari
>> is wrong for you.
>> 
>> Nat!
>> -- 
> 
> Well said Nat !

GMAFB.

Someone asks to be convinced to stay with Atari (and I know Chris, and
I'm pretty sure that it was an honest request), and all you can do is
say "Take off, we don't need you".  That says two things to me:

1) There is nothing Atari's most rabid supporters can actually say in
its favor.

2) Users such as this needn't blame the Tramiels for Atari's
downfall--telling everyone who wants to be convinced to "take a hike"
is pretty poor P.R.

Sorry, I've got more than two things.

3) This is about third grade recess levels of maturity, so take your
bat and ball and go home, and try to catch those left fielders
yourself.

I can perfectly understand Chris' situation--wanting someone to
convince him to stick with a platform that he feels some loyalty
toward, I'm feeling it myself these days--and I'm amazed at the
helpful reactions he's gotten.

Mike.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: phammond@cs.tcd.ie (Paul Hammond)
Subject: Reading Atari disks to Macari.st!
Summary: Is it possible to load Atari disks onto a Mac ?
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin (Computer Science)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:38:24 GMT


The subject says it all. What is the name of the software if it exists ?

Cheers

Paul
Xref: sparky comp.sys.atari.st:19448 comp.sys.mac.misc:21562
From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Spectre GCR (Mac+ emulator) vs. Mac MS-Word 5.1???
Date: 9 Jan 1993 19:22:19 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Distribution: na
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

> 6.0.5 is latest system recommended by Gadgets for use with the GCR. The
> GCR is seen as a Mac Plus and that is the system suggested for the
> Mac Plus.

On this subject - if it ever appears, what mac' is the Falcon-supporting
Spectre GCR (or whatever it may be called) likely to emulate!?

LCII?!  Classic?!
From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Last time on this one
Date: 8 Jan 1993 22:39:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson) says:

>In article 3943@isgtec.isgtec.com, ken@isgtec.com (Ken Newman) writes:
>>
>>Anyone who still thinks Gemulator is being made to convert millions
>>of IBM worshippers over to the wonderful Atari software base needs
>>some psychiatric care. He's doing it to hasten the Atari nosedive.
>>For the record, I still like the ST (actually the STe) a lot, for
>>several reasons, and have no wish for Atari to go under. Darek it
>>seems definitely wants them to go under.
>
>Uh, Ken... Did you ever think that maybe Darek built the Gemulator in order
>to try to make a few bucks?  I think perhaps you are giving him too much
>credit for his "evil, wicked, mean and nasty" reputation.  :)
>
>---
>
>___________________________ John "HUTCH" Hutchinson _________________________

I asked him why he built it and he said, "I predict Atari will be
out of business by 1993 (I think that is what he said)."  He continued to
say something about Atari users having it easy to convert when Atari
goes bankrupt.

I think he built it because he is pissed at Atari and probably CARES
about the Atari Community.


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Xref: sparky comp.sys.atari.st:19680 comp.sys.atari.st.tech:6608
From: cfaehl@polaris.unm.edu (Chris Faehl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Possibly fatal bug ?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 17:31:41 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
NNTP-Posting-Host: polaris.unm.edu
Summary: We got trouble! Right here in River City!
Keywords: ICD MiNT LaserC

I just spent an unpleasant two days trying to fix my hard drive after it
decided to go south. The story: playing with MiNT .95, running ICD 6.0.7
hard disk software. There's QuickST in the system, and that's it. I run
Laser C (I use it as an editor), which hangs. No keyboard reset, the machine
is gonzo down. I hit the reset switch, I get a BLACK SCREEN, then SuperBoot
pops up, I continue, MiNT does not run and hangs the machine. And that's
all she wrote, folks! My drive no longer boots. Can't recognize it when
I run ICDBOOT from floppy. None of the utility programs I have even recognize
that I had partitions on the thing. 

	Finally, I discover: the first 10 sectors of the drive are history.
I get 6 bytes of 0a, then the rest is padded with 08. To abbreviate:
only drive C was yonkered, I had to fill in partition information manually,
and I had to recopy the 2nd fat on drive C to where the 1st should have
been. CHKDSK tells me I have a few doubly-linked clusters now, and I recovered
about 18 lost clusters, but I can live with that.

	But I really really really don't want this to happen again. Does
anyone have a CLUE why this might have happened? I'm not running MiNT until
I can lay the blame at someone's feet. Thankx for your response.

cfaehl@polaris.unm.edu
From: rasas@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Greg Patten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Fastfix - help please
Date: 4 Jan 93 07:48:13 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
Originator: rasas@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU

I tried to mail this twice and got it back. The original article appeared
about a month ago...
 
 In comp.sys.atari.st someone who I can't be bothered looking up wrote:
 
 >There's a nifty little PD utility program called "Fast Fix" that you pop
 >in your AUTO folder and it turns off the key click and fixes the screen
 >dump so the whole screen fits on a sheet of paper.  I've been using it
 >for a long time and it's never interfered with anything.
 
 I'm particularly interested in this 'Fast Fix' utility but can not find it
 anywhere.. Could you (read: anyone..:) possibly mail me a copy if it's 
 not too much truble as I can't seem to find it on a.a or any of the local
 BBS's.
 
 Many thanks,
 
 Greg.
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From: dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: ST Upgrading
Date: 7 Jan 1993 06:10:11 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: case.ai.mit.edu

In article <1993Jan7.010122.26609@eskimo.com> gregs@eskimo.com (Greg Sumner) writes:
>csullogg@cc4.crl.aecl.ca writes:
>>Question: Why did Windows only become popular recently?
>>Answer: Until recently, no PC was fast enough to run it effectively.
>
>On a similar note, I read a message a while back (I forget from whom)
>about a text editor for the PC that ran "considerably faster" than
>Tempus.
>
>This may be true, but only because the hardware was upgraded at a
>considerable expense.

Actually, no.  Epsilon Emacs runs considerably faster than Tempus on a
lowly 286/12, which is probably as slow as (of not slower than) the
8Mhz 68000 in the ST.  Epsilon is also programmable in C, lets you edit
multi-megabyte files quickly and easily, and just generally impresses
the hell out of me.  It's a programming marvel -- proof that even
Intel-clone sellouts can write kick-butt code.  (And you thought they
were all mindless drones, didn't you?)

Faster than Tempus on a 286/12, yup.  But you should see it run on a
486/33!

:)

>...286...
>Did it do everything you needed it to do?  Pretty much.  So why do you
>now need a minimum 4 megs, windows, and a large hard disk just to have
>a system that will run the standard software?
>
>Microsoft is why.

Oh please.  MACH requires a lot more than that; are you going to blame
CMU for "forcing people to get more hardware?" The 286 won't run any
real operating systems (unless you count Xenix) because the chip isn't
capable of doing virutal memory without massive hackery.

If you don't like Windows, DON'T RUN IT.  I never use Windows.  I hate
it.  If I wanted a GUI I'd use a Mac; at least they have a decent one.
PC software that supports Windows always comes with a DOS interface
too.  You don't HAVE to have Windows.

>Why don't they build better software and quit relying on faster hardware?

Epsilon is an example of this better software.  Boycott Microsoft if
you don't like them, but don't take your hatred of them out on the
Intel machines themselves.

Dave Baggett
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: tose@brosme.dhmolde.no (Torbjoern Ose)
Subject: Re: 800 birds ready to take of from Taiwan....
Organization: DhMolde - Computer Science
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 17:52:54 GMT

Secret Mud (ron@zooid.guild.org) wrote:
: From: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no (Joern Moe)
: >Subject say's it all.
: >(Information from reliable source, although not directly from anyone
: >inside Atari Corp., cause if it it was, I couldn't tell you:^)
: >
: >-- 
: >  _______________________________________________________
: > / Joern F. Moe /  All above is my own personal opinion! \
: >/ Oslo, Norway /  Any lack of opinion above is also mine! \
: >-----------------------------------------------------------

: 200?  Why such a weenie number?  200 is a week's work for a rather small
: production line.  (And that includes burn-in testing.)

:  - Ron Sharp.

Who said anything about 200??? Read the messages before you reply.

Anyway, 800 is far better than zero so we shouldn't be complaining :)

--
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From: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no (Joern Moe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: 800 birds ready to take of from Taiwan....
Date: 9 Jan 93 13:25:26 GMT
Reply-To: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no
Organization: None
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992

Subject say's it all.
(Information from reliable source, although not directly from anyone
inside Atari Corp., cause if it it was, I couldn't tell you:^)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: cordes@ac.dal.ca (John Cordes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Patches for DB2.50->2.52, DE1.00->1.02 for a.a.?
Date: 9 Jan 93 22:44:53 -0400
Summary: Could the patches for DB and DE please be u/l'd?
Keywords: patch,db,de,genie,aa
Distribution: world
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

 It would be awfully nice if some kind GEnie subscriber would u/l to a.a. the 
patches to upgrade Diamond Back 2.50 -> 2.52 and Diamond Edge 1.00 -> 1.02. 
Thanks (he said hopefully) in advance.

John