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From: douthit@convex.com (Ronnie Douthit)
Subject: Re: Whiners CANNOT accept defeat
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:49:21 GMT
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jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA) writes:
>Yes, I am been harsh and an asshole, but I am tired of you whiners
>(NOTE: not ALL fans are whiners) who post and brag about your team.
>When your teams wins, you're out there cracking the whip and how
>great your QB is, how great your receivers are, how great your
>O & D lines, are and on and on and on. Well, if you can't take
>the heat, then don't set yourselves up. I guarantee you one thing,
>if and when the Niners lose, all you whiners will be out there
>in droves rubbing it in. Well, how does it feel. Hell, don't
>take it personally, I don't. It is only a game played by larger
>that life men who get paid a 100 times more than any of us.

The only people I have ever subjected to "rubbing it in" are people like
you who act like an asshole when they [win|predict correctly].  You are
asking for the FOOTBALL GODS rath.  I'm not whinning about the Cowboys loss.  
I'm saying it like it is:  The Cowboys beat themselves, they weren't beat
by the Redskins.  In my opinion, they are still the better team.  If you
say, well who won.  I'll say, if you are going to go simply by won/loss
record, the Cowboys are still the better team.

One thing I have never said, though:  The Cowboys are the best team.  I will
say this, in a couple years they will be.  Even today, I feel they can beat
anyone, but not everyday -- just most days. 

			-Ron
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Browns blow it. Belechik looks for a new job...
Date: 21 Dec 92 03:20:58 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

Bill will not be canned, but I bet he does get some pressure from upstairs
to do something about that pathetic offense of theirs.  The play calling,
to understate the problem, is quite unimaginative.

The Browns defense seems to never be able to stop other teams when they are
mounting big comebacks.  I attribute this more to a lack of speed than
anything else.  There are a lot of holes in the secondary right now, mainly
due to injuries.  The LB corps will definitely need to be shored up in the
draft.  I suggest they spend their 1rst-round pick on the best LB
available.

They also need a marquis running back.  Metcalf is a *specialty* back, and
Mack is getting too old.  I suggest they get rid of Hoard and get somebody
that can run for 100 yards more than once in a blue moon.  Of course, the
offensive line is as much, if not more, to blame for the lack of running,
but they are going to have to find a decent free agent or two in the
offseason to fix this, as I don't think the draft this year will be very
deep at the offensive line position.

I'm glad I didn't see the game today.  I don't have any Browns shirts left
to rip to shreds...
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:30:08 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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From: htilney@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: Pitt Vs. Bears
Organization: Clark University
Date: 13 DEC 92 01:17:28 GMT

You're right about mentioning the emotional states of these teams.
If Pittsburgh goes in expecting an easy win, they'll lose. But I look
for them to be fired up, seeing as they can clinch the AFC Central and
keep the pressure on the Bills with a victory.

I'm trying to get behind Brister, but there's not much to judge from his
last few appearances. His TD toss to Jorden a few games back came after a
long fumble return, and besides that Foster has done most of the work.
I'm hoping Bubby has shaken off the rust by now.

Bart
From: jdhl@troi.cc.rochester.edu (papa_sm00sh)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: The Dynasty Continues..........
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:34:49 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York



an intersting point too is that the 49ers have not made money in the
last 2(?) seasons... i know they lost like 7 mil last season...

if they don't make the playoffs they lose money... they need to have
homefield and make it to the NFC championship just to break even...

not worth it from a business point of view... and after all... that is
what the nfl is...


jason
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From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Half a question
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:46:37 GMT

In article <009652AD.67B603C0@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>Hi there
>I have seen refs call the penalty distance
>as "half the distance to the goal line".
>Can anyone tell me when is this and not 
>penalty by no. of yards (like say 10) 
>is enforced.

Whichever is less.

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA)
Subject: Re: BIlls are READY
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:59:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.194425.20240@equalizer.cray.com> mcs@fps.com (Mike Sanfratello) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.044919.25304@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA) writes:
>>What do you expect from the crying Jills? They have no
>>idea what it is like to win a SB. They are in a fantasy
>>trip, must be the those mushrooms. I kind of hope they
>>do make it to the SB. The result would be a NFC
>>blowout! Whether it be the Niners, Saints or Cowboys,
>>the stinking Jills would be humilated on national
>>T.V., in front of MILLIONS of views world-wide.
>>-- 
>> ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
>>	"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
>>  is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
>
>and that 34-31 still eats at him to this day...
>
>mike

NOT ME! I don't have to bleed! That is the ONLY consolation you
JILLs have to warm your snarled, ugly little minds with
this winter!
-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
	"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
  is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
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From: jggoslin@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Whiplash Smile)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:52:13 GMT

Is this annoying anyone else but me?

I'd like to think it's not just me that hates it when an article gets
posted 50 bizzillion times.  Mind you they aren't different... THEY
ARE EXACTLY THE SAME!  Oh well... it might just be me.

Whiplash Smile

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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:40:08 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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From: bergerson@cvdv79.mayo.edu (Chad D. Bergerson)
Subject: Re: Vikes cannot hope for a wild card.
Reply-To: bergerson@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 21:25:13 GMT


->Remember 1987? The Vikings were 7-4 and at very good shape. They went
->on to lose 3 out of the last 4, including an OT loss to the Skins in the
->season finale, and finished at 8-7. In the last weekend, had the Cardinals 
->beaten the Cowboys, the Cards would have edged out the Vikings in a 
->tiebreaker. Yet the Cards lost, and the Vikings backed into the playoffs.
->
->The Vikes certainly didn't deserve it, right?
->
->The rest is history.
->
->-- 
->                                          Edward Lor
->                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
->                                          
->
Don't post until you know the whole story, know-nothing-fans!!!!!

1987 PLAYOFF GAMES of the MN Vikings:

round 1:  Vikings  44  New Orleans 10   Vikes Destroy Saints

round 2:  Vikings  36  San Francisco 24  Not as close as the score

NFC Championship:  Super Bowl Champ Redskins 17  Vikings  10
             --  Vikes fail to tie on a 4th and goal late in game

they didn't deserve it, shithead!!??  The Vikes were one of the only teams in
the NFL that year to have every player honor the strike.  So, they had by far
the worst strike team, losing all three games easily.   Without the strike,
they were 8-4, plenty good to make the playoffs.


    VIKINGS 1987 SCORES:
--------------------------------
                               RECORD W-L
        Det @ Minn 19 34       *      1-0
        Minn @ Rams 21 16      *      2-0
            GB @ Minn 23 16               2-1  (STRIKE)
            Minn @ Chi 7 27               2-2  (STRIKE)
            Minn @ TB 10 20               2-3  (STRIKE)
        Den @ Minn 27 34       *      3-3
        Minn @ Sea 17 28              3-4
        Rdrs @ Minn 20 31      *      4-4
        TB @ Minn 17 23        *      5-4
        Atl @ Minn 13 24       *      6-4
        Minn @ Dal 44 38 (ot)  *      7-4
        Chi @ Minn 30 24              7-5
        Minn @ GB 10 16               7-6
        Minn @ Det 17 14       *      8-6
        Wash @ Minn 27 24 (ot)        8-7

        PLAYOFFS:

        Minn @ NO 44 10
        Minn @ SF 36 24
        Minn @ Wash 10 17
 
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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: HOW BOUT EM!!
Keywords: nowworshipmoranow
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:58:56 GMT
Organization: .

(Michael Zimmers) writes:
>(Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
>
>> >Well, from the current looks of things, my Aints will be hosting the
>> >Eagles; and THEN to Candlestick, providing the Vikes/GB don't choke against
>> >the Skins.
>
>>Excuse me, but you forgot the small fact of a game in Dallas before 
>>you can pack your bags for candlestick park.

....Timbo, that's why I said "providing the Vikes don't choke...."

>Really?  I know we were just through this, but I thought WC1 (which
>the Saints are virtually assured of) first plays DC3 (Minnesota) and
>then DC1 (SF).  Dallas would come last for NO.
>
>No?

No and NO.  Like I said above, given the CURRENT most likely scenario:
SF - Div1       NO - WC1
DA - Div2       PH - WC2
MN - Div3       WA - WC3

The Saints would HOST the Eagles, Vikes HOST the Skins.  If NO wins,
THEN they go to Candlestick "providing the Vikes don't choke against the
Skins."  If the Skins and Saints win, the Saints go to Dallas, the Skins
go to SF.

Comprende?

--J.J.
('course we don't have a prayer with Da Bills)
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From: quangl@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Quang Le)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin Tx.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:47:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.172254.19583@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
>In article <102597@netnews.upenn.edu> sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Rajeev  Sajja) writes:
>>Now, regarding getting home field advantage, there is one possibility as one
>>of the guys on the net suggested a PLANE CRASH...
>>NOPE no playoff games at RFK this year. 
>As long as there somebody is seeded lower than you are, you have a chance of
>a home playoff game.
>
>Scenario:
>
>seedings
>   1       SF
>   2       Dallas
>   3       Minnesota
>   4       New Orleans
>   5       Washington
>   6       Philly
>
>Wildcard: Philly beat Minn, Washington beat NO
>divisional: Philly beat SF, Washington beat Dallas
>
>Bingo, NFC championship game at RFK!!!
>
>Is the above scenario rarer than a plane crash?

It takes <FOUR> plane crashes to make the above scenario likely happens. :-)
But, actually, the planes of the first four teams couldn't crash because
they wouldn't fly anywhere. Let's say there will be earthquakes in SF,
tornadoes in Dallas, hurricanes in NO, and snow slides in MN: all at the same
time at the fields the teams practice. :-)

Serious question: if the above seeding happens and Vikings meets Saints
for the championship  where will they play? At the divisional team (MN) or
the better record team (NO)?

>
>-- 
>                                          Edward Lor
>                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
>                                          


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From: freshlt@quig10.alleg.edu (Timothy Freshly)
Subject: Re: A Holiday thank you note
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:26:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.201818.1998@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>  
stamber@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Kevin L. Stamber) writes:

> Thank you.....to the Steelers offensive minds, for realizing that
>              Merril Hoge was living off of the afterglow of two
>              playoff games, and that BARRY! BARRY! was a feature back.


	One thing that all of us Steeler fans have noticed is that Hoge is  
doing an EXCELLENT job blocking for Foster.  Many of Foster's yards can be  
attributed to superb lead-blocking by Hoge.  Way to go Merrill!  You don't  
get enough credit.

				Tim
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:39:16 EST
From: Robbie Po <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!

You  are a Pittsburgh fan that has gone to far!!!  This is football - not
hockey.  Just because you watched the Penguins swagger to a 3rd place finish
and then storm off and take off in the playoffs (after barely surviving
1,000 blows and being 99.999999999999% elimination) win the Cup doesn't mean
the Redskins can do it.  It's a lot tougher to win one game in football w/o
the home field advantage.  Hockey you only have to win 4 out of 7 - football
you have to win or get the hell off the field!!!
** Rob **
GO STEELERS - or 49ERS!!!  I like 'em both - Montana's a Pittsburgh boy.  The
Steeler (Foster) has returned to Glory - not Steelers.  Just Steelers. Okay,
the defense is doing well too!!!
From: jefforca@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Saying goodbye to Samurai Mike
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:11:10 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

You said it all.  Although I am a Devout Packer fan and like nothing more than
the Pack to win a classic Packer - Bear matchup, I have always held Mike
Singletary, and for that matter Walter Payton in high regard.

In this long and storied series, you've had your few pretenders: Charles Martin
trying to singlehandedly ruin the Bears season, Vince Evans trying to play
quarterback for the Bears, and the list goes on and on.  But through it all,
when it cam to game time, these men played their hearts out for nothing more
than the love of the game and the drive to win it all.  Mike, you will be
sorely missed.

Craig A. Jeffords - Loyal Packer Backer
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From: Dr. Norman J. LaFave <lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: WASHINGTON SUCKS SHIT!!!
X-Xxdate: Thu, 17 Dec 92 08:57:25 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Company
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:01:12 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.234637.23579@ods.com> Richard Thompson,
richard@ods.com writes:
>Well, I've been holding back long enough, I gotta stick up for my fellow
>Cowboy fans.  Granted, 5 turnovers is a lot.  But it should have been
only
>3 (still enough to lose a game, but not the way they played Sunday).  The
>fucking referees, the same ones that dicked us last year in the
>Meadowlands againt the Giants in the game that got instant replay nuked
for
>this year, directly contributed to the Redskins only two touchdowns.  We
>all know about the fucked up play with a little more than 3 minutes to go
>in the game (incomplete pass, no doubt about it).  But why hasn't anyone
>brought up the so-called Kelvin Martin "muff" of a punt, the one that 
>gave the Redskins the ball on the Cowboys 42-yard line, the same one
>where the Redskins scored on the next play?  The replay (and my review
>of the tape of the game) clearly showed that the ball hit a Redskin on
the
>knee (#41) before it hit Martin on the foot;  it should have been Dallas
>ball near mid-field.  And the refs TRIED to give the Redskins a touchdown
>in the second half, when they flagged Haley for being offsides when the
>left tackle CLEARLY moved early.  What in the fuck were 7 officials
looking
>at such that they all missed that one?

Whining again.....   Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez!

I seem to remember the Cowgirls getting some breaks in the first game too.
So what? I didn't complain about it because it is part of the game. I'm
sure
if I had the time I could sit and find blown calls that went the other
way.
So what? It's part of the game. The Skins won. Live with it. I had to
live with
that game several years ago where we were knocked out of the playoffs by
Dallas due to several bad calls and an official who ignored Theismann
trying
to call a timeout for a field goal. If I can live with that, you will
survive this.

Norman

Dr. Norman J. LaFave
Senior Engineer
Lockheed Engineering and Sciences Company




When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro
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