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From: kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re:love handles
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:19:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Jul29.141917.279751
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Originator: kji@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU

Javier:

Okay, maybe my exercises won't work for everyone.  But they do work
for some people who have had love handles.  Working the muscle tightens
that skin up; trust me; I've seen it.  It may not work for everyone,
but it has worked for some.  And since you never know what category
you fall into, you might as well try it.

After a few months, tell us what happens.  

Also, if you're worried about mass in the obliques, don't worry about it.
You're only swinging up the weight of your legs.  You're not going to
gain mass.

But...you try it, and tell us the results.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: ghlangf@pbhyb.PacBell.COM (Garrison H. Langford)
Subject: Re: love handles
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:37:22 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.141917.279751@cs.cmu.edu>, kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico) writes:
> Javier:
> 
> Okay, maybe my exercises won't work for everyone.  But they do work
> for some people who have had love handles.  Working the muscle tightens
> that skin up; trust me; I've seen it.  It may not work for everyone,
> but it has worked for some.  And since you never know what category
> you fall into, you might as well try it.
> 
> After a few months, tell us what happens.  
> 
> Also, if you're worried about mass in the obliques, don't worry about it.
> You're only swinging up the weight of your legs.  You're not going to
> gain mass.
> 
This kind of information sharing can be damaging, and I mean
physically, to people - I must join the bandwagon in saying
please don't post this kind of thing unless you know what youre
talking about - 



-- 
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~~~~G. H. Langford 	pacbell.com!pbhyd!ghlangf ~~~~
"I'm not really bad.....just drawn that way"-J.Rabbitt
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From: lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Triceps Exercises
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:39:27 GMT
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Tucson Az.

I am looking for exercises specifically geared towards working my outer
triceps (those'd be the muscles facing outwards with my hands at my sides
and my palms facing forward). I don't know the names of the different
parts to my triceps..

Anyway, I have been doing "nosebreakers" (AKA skullcrushers--great names
for this exercise...), dips, and close grip bench press for my TRIs and
it seems that my inner tris (higher up in the back of my arm) are growing
at a great pace, but the outer tris aren't responding much.

A friend of mine told me to try an exercise using a cable pulley: Grip the
handle in one hand, palm facing up (this makes things harder) and with your
upper arm straight (vertical) extend your forearm downward. This is similar
to push downs except that you do one arm at a time and your grip is
upside down. I hope this explains what I mean... Anyway, I tried this
yesterday (these are _tough_) and they felt like they might be working
my outer tris more. Any other ideas?

thanks,

Luther
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Subject: Re: Legumes and grain not a great combination?
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 15:29:26 GMT


In a previous article, georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) says:

>"Muscle mags" exist for the purpose of promoting product endorsements.
>They are not a reliable source of information on anything else,
>especially nutrition.

You could be right.  I'm especially wary of Joe Weider's mags, despite
endorsements from Arnold and company.  Some of his products sound
pretty pseudoscientific.  

-- 
Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., grad student & roboticist-in-training, CWRU

"If God does not judge the United States, then He owes |    My boss is a 
 an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah."   - Billy Graham   |  Jewish carpenter.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Subject: Re: side effects of carbonated beverage consumption?
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 15:24:52 GMT


In a previous article, aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall) says:

>
>Are there any major negative side effects from drinking 
>carbonated beverages? Forget sugar, caffeine, etc-- does the
>carbonation itself have an effect?

CO2 dissolved in H20 produces carbonic acid (I forgot the exact
formula).  This can wreak havoc on your digestive tract.  It probably
doesn't do much for your teeth, either.

Of course, it can also cause, er, flatulence.

-- 
Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., grad student & roboticist-in-training, CWRU

"If God does not judge the United States, then He owes |    My boss is a 
 an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah."   - Billy Graham   |  Jewish carpenter.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: TAC@ysub.ysu.edu (Troy Allen Cross)
Subject: Re: Question on Universal
Originator: news@news
Organization: Youngstown State University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:26:38 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.215909.15268@auto-trol.com>
stedee@auto-trol.com (Steve Deemer) writes:
 
>
>                                           The question is: which
>of the two weights corresponds more closely to free weights?  Is
>ten reps at 100 lbs. marked at the low end on the bench press
>station equivalent to ten reps at 100 lbs. with free weights?
>
I believe that the weight marked on the low end is suppose to be
the weight at the beginning of the motion and the weight marked
on the high end is suppose to be the weight at the end of the motion.
The weight marked are probably okay for a free weight trainer to use
when he has to (on a business trip at a hotel).  However, a machine
trainer will probably not be able to lift an equivalent amount of
free weight because on the balance required.  Also, myself being a
free weight trainer, has found that the groove the machine follows
does not usually match my own.
 
Troy
From: tmike@cmptrc.lonestar.org (T. Mike Howeth)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: High Protein meal...
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:31:25 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1992Jul28.131707.228@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu> loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu writes:

|Dave, Canned tuna in H2O, lean chicken and fish are high protein choices 
|as well...

RINSE THAT TUNA!  It's sodium hell!

-- 
tmike@cmptrc.lonestar.org                                               __
"Whoever said 'getting there is half the fun'                           \/
    has never ridden in a class 8 probe!"
From: amelito@cafws1.eng.uci.edu (Amelito Enriquez)
Subject: Re: Assumptions of Drug Use by Olympians or Anyone Else (Very Informative)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:06:05 GMT

In article <14749@umd5.umd.edu> silver@woodstock.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:
>A very interesting point has been brought up about drug use in sports.  Just
>because someone is unusally big does not mean that they are using drugs,
>does it?
>

I have the same problem with some of the guys in my gym (especially the ones
who are taking steroids!).  I am big and strong for my size ( 5' 2" and 150 #).
It used to be funny, and I used to take it as a compliment.  But lately, it is
starting to bother me since these 'roided guys are always talking about "what
stuff I must be taking and how much".  And some of the people who do not know
better believe them.
	I have nothing against people who do steroids.  In fact I have friends
who do.  What really ticks me off is that some guys (especially those who are
taking steroids) who can not accept the fact that a guy who is completely 
natural can be stronger and can look better than them.  Now even people who are
close to me are starting to believe them.  Why can't people just mind their own
business?
From: mahoney@cs.utexas.edu (J. Jeff Mahoney)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: RELIV (latest MLM product...heard of it?)
Date: 21 Jul 1992 09:02:36 -0500
Organization: Just Do It Society
NNTP-Posting-Host: phobos.cs.utexas.edu


    I just got invited (read ordered) by my aerobics boss to attend
a seminar tonight on a new(??) nutritional food supplement called
RELIV.  It is supposed to give you unlimited energy, and rid you of
all body fat, etc, etc.  They are using a multi-level marketing
approach to distribution, and it reminds me 100% of Herbalife.  Their
seminars consist of people standing up and telling of the great things
that it has done for them.  Roscoe Tanner is apparently one of the
big players for this product.  Of course, nobody seems to really know
what's in the product, only that it works for them (so who cares what's
in it....right?).

    I'm hoping someone on the net has more detailed info on this product.
HAs anyone read anything about it?  Anybody got some good tough questions
that I should ask the sponsors tonight?  Any info on this product,
or experiences with similar MLM scams are most appreciated.

    Either post or e-mail responses.  If there is any interest, I will
post tomorrow as to the result of tonights meeting.

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From: prism.gatech.EDU!ccoprbm@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: How To Identify Lactic Acid Buildup?
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:36:00 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant

>> Could someone who is familiar with the subject please tell me what sorts
>> of symptoms lactic acid buildup causes on the day *after* a long
>> workout, and are there any ways to speed recovery?
>> 
Pick up a copy of either July or August "Triathlete" magazine and there
you will find an article to fit your needs.

Good Luck! Hope this helps.


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From: loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: The misc.fitness TOP TEN list
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:41:47 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <1992Jul31.092005.4982@henson.cc.wwu.edu>, n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
> loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu writes:
>>> A one-line followup to a 100-line post with NO TRIMMING DOWN?!?!?!  Come
>>> on, bonehead, you can do better than that!
> 
>>Listen BONEHEAD, my system was crashing and I had to log off before I could
>>edit the damn thing.  To all of you other boneheads that emailed your 
>>intelligence to me, don't bother wasting my time with stupid-ass replys 
>>like that.  I'm sorry I wasn't able to cut it down, but under the 
>>circumstances, I didn't get a chance to.
>>--Rob
> 
> Ah, outside forces, I see.   Are these same forces acting on you still,
> preventing you from canceling your article that wasted the time of so
> many misc.fitness readers?
> 
> (and is wasting their time still, as new readers are victimized by
> scanning your 100 lines of null bandwidth each hour)
> 
> Jim Del Vecchio

Why don't you tell me how.  Anything to correct the mortal sin I have committed.
God, pray for me!  I must repent for the evil and disgusting thing I have done,
or else I will burn in hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: jbyrd@chpc.utexas.edu (Jan Byrd)
Subject: Re: Sweating !!!!
Organization: Center for High Performance Computing, Univ. of Texas System
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 18:48:25 GMT

In article <22484@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, jbrown@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Jennifer Brown) writes:
|> Most people say women "perspire", well I SWEAT!  = )  My husband won't
|> come near me after my workout.  He barely sweats when working out.
|> And I walk away soaking wet from head-to-toe.  YUCK!  = )
|> 
|> Jennifer Brown

Since it's True Confession Time... I also SWEAT!  I take a thrice-weekly
aerobics class at my lunch hour, and most of the other women just spritz 
on a little more deodorant, reapply the lipstick, and trot back to work
leaving their workout clothes hanging in their lockers for the next time.  
I, on the other hand, have to re-boot the entire system (shower, etc),
and my very damp workout clothes go home with me each time with my fervent 
prayer that I won't be in a wreck on the way home and my bag of wet workout 
clothes fall into the wrong hands and bring shame down on my family.

Jan
From: mickw@autodesk.com (Mick Washbrook)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Dymetadrine 25
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:43:31 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.181536.4769@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, ah532@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Gleba) writes:
> Does anybody have any info/experience with this stuff? Side effects? 
> or anything? All info would be greatly appreciated. Send mail if
> possible.

This stuff is the best thing I've found yet. It's usually taken for
asthma, but is great for working out too. I find that it frees up
my breathing, increases my concentration, and lets me lift heavier
weights for longer. You might try stacking it with a product called
E.P.H. 833. If you're a light sleeper, you might find the Dymeta-
drine makes it harder to get to sleep after your workout. I find
two tablets does me just fine.




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From: bradley@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (David K. Bradley)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Push-Up Suggestions!
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:32:19 GMT
Organization: Univ of Illinois, Center for Supercomputing R&D, Urbana, IL

whare@ac.dal.ca writes:

    Does anyone have any suggestions as to increase his endurance/strength
    in the areas of the body used in push-ups.

Do lots of pushups.  (Only partially facetious)
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	Center for Supercomputing Research and Development
	University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
	"My god, it's full of (guys named) Lars!" - Dave Bowman in Sweden
From: loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: FAQ: Vitamin advice?
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:54:06 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <1992Jul28.132458.25074@rosevax.rosemount.com>, billodo@cyclone (Bill O'Donnell) writes:
> I'm soliciting advice on vitamins.  I do some running, weight training,
> bicycling, and golf... 3-5 times per week. Besides a decent
> diet, does a healthy 28-34 year old person need a vitamin supplement?
> If so, what kind, brand, etc? I have tried a multiple from Nutrition
> World, but I'm not yet convinced that I really need it.
> 
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bill O'Donnell                | Did I forget to mention Memphis?
> Rosemount, Inc.               | Home of Elvis and the ancient Greeks.
>                               | Look over there: a dry-ice factory...
> billodo@cyclone.rosemount.com | good place to get some thinking done!
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> 		   
It depends upon whether or not your getting enough vitamins and minerals in your
diet.  If your not, then it is a good idea to take a supplement.  You might try
Beverly Hill International brand or Ultimate Nutrition brand of vitamins.
BHI is, from what I have heard a good source.  I personally take UN brand 
products and feel that they are the best on the market.
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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: dwarren@csfb1.fir.fbc.com (David Warren)
Subject: Help me gain ten pounds!!
Reply-To: uunet!csfb1!dwarren
Organization: First Boston Corporation
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:18:57 GMT

Hi.  I'm a reasonably new reader of this group, and I was hoping to get
some advice.  I recently shifted from Nautilus to free weights and here
is my current regimen:

  Monday/Thursday:
     Chest:
        Bench Press:       12xbar, 8x135, 8x145, 8x145, 3x155
        Incline BP:        12xbar, 8x85, 8x95, 8x95, 3x105
        Dumbbell raise(?): 8x35x2, 8x35x2, 8x40x2
        Cybex chest:       8x5, 8x5, 8x5.5

     Back:
        Lat pulldowns:     Cybex three sets x 3 variations x 8
                            (wide grip behind neck,
                             fairly wide to chest,
                             narrow grip underhand pull down to neck)
        Bent-over dumbbell rows:  3 sets each hand x 35 pounds
        Seated cable row:    8x70, 8x80, 8x90
        Machine name I forget, but lying down diagonally, pulling weights
        up toward chest:  3 sets x 2 positions (wide/narrow grip) x 35 

  Tuesday/Friday:
     Shoulders:        
        Military barbell press:  8x60, 8x65, 8x70
        Behind the neck press:   8x55, 8x60, 8x65
        Standing lateral raise:  8x15x2, 8x20, 8x20
        Bent-over lateral raise: 8x10x2, 8x12, 8x12
     Bicep:
        Barbell curl:       8x55, 8x60, 8x65
        Concentration curl: 8x12x2, 8x15x2, 8x20x2
        Preacher curl:      8x50x2positions (wide/narrow grip), 8x55x2p
     Tricep:
        Rope pulldown:          8x35, 8x40, 8x45
        Overhead pullup:        8x40, 8x45, 8x50
        Concentration db raise: 8x15x2, 8x20x2, 8x25x2

  I apologize for not knowing all of the exact names of the exercises.
  I add situps and crunches often.  Not much leg work due to time constraints.
  On the weekends, I do long runs, bike rides, and roller blading.  
  I am 6', 165lb, low body fat.  I think I am a hard gainer, and would like
  to be able to do 3 sets benching my body weight (as an initial target).

  Q:  Any recommendations/changes to the regimen?
  Q:  What is a reasonable time frame to hit my target?
  Q:  How long to put on 10 lb of muscle?

Thanks in advance!!

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From: bonak@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Esmail Bonakdarian)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: book/reference on fitness topics
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:35:16 GMT
Reply-To: bonak@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Esmail Bonakdarian)
Organization: U of Iowa, Iowa City, IA

I am looking for recommendations on a book on general fitness topics (such
as discussed here).

I'd like the book contain info on heart rates, target rate, metabolism,
weight loss, suggestions of safe workouts, info on how many calories
various exercises burn (e.g., cycling, running, etc) and other related
information. I am not particularly interested in weight lifting.

So, what is your favorite book/reference?

Thanks,
Esmail
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Subject: Re: * mistake/crick
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:51:58 GMT

 Obviously you also need to get out more.

Ed
From: hitman@zztop.EBay.Sun.COM (Michael A. Scalise)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Forearm Pain (revisited)
Date: 23 Jul 1992 20:49:14 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: hitman@zztop.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: zztop.ebay.sun.com

Hi,

There was an article posted not too long ago about forearm pain during
curl exercises.  For the past month or so I've been experiencing the same
pain, especially trying to do curls with either the straight or curling
bar so I've stop using them altogether and used mostly the dumbbells.
(Seems the pain isn't as great as using the straight or curling bar)
My question is, what treatment is recommended for an injury like this?
Also how long does it take for this to heal?  Will using a wrap around
the forearm help any?  I know I'm not getting the gains I would like 
through just the dumbbells alone so I'm really anxious to get back to 
the curling bars even if it means enduring the pain.  It's becoming very 
frustrating so any suggestions are welcomed!

Thanks,
Michael
From: calving@netcom.com (The Lindsay-Geyer Corp)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Re:love handles
Date: 30 Jul 92 08:53:05 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

"Love Handles", as with all unsightly chunks of fat (I have one myself, which has disturbed me for all my decades (3+)), require surgery for removal.  PLEASE, whoever you are, don't be down on yourself for some silly chunk of fat!  Just save up and have it removed (provided your doctor does not say you are overweight and is willing to approve of the procedure.)  Please don't be so self concious for so little.

CalvinG.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Subject: Re: side effects of carbonated beverage consumption?
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 17:49:38 GMT


In a previous article, dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) says:

>In article <1992Jul28.152452.17002@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco) writes:
>>>Are there any major negative side effects from drinking 
>>>carbonated beverages? Forget sugar, caffeine, etc-- does the
>>>carbonation itself have an effect?
>>CO2 dissolved in H20 produces carbonic acid (I forgot the exact
>>formula).  This can wreak havoc on your digestive tract.
>
>Whatever do you mean?  Carbonated water is not a very strong acid.
>It pales compared to stomach acid.  The only problem I can imagine
>is discomfort from drinking too many carbonated liquids too fast.
>
>>It probably doesn't do much for your teeth, either.
>
>Phosphoric acid in colas probably has a greater effect.

Hey, I just tell it like I heard it.  I'd imagine that you are probably
right about the phosphoric acid.  I was just speculating that carbonic
acid could aggravate the effect.

As for carbonic acid paling in comparison to stomach acid, I don't doubt
it.  However, considering that stomach acids do actually 'digest' the
stomach and intestine linings, I would again guess that carbonated water
could aggravate it, albeit slightly. 

Any chemistry dudes out there who can provide more input?  I remain open
to correction, as always.

-- 
Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., grad student & roboticist-in-training, CWRU

"If God does not judge the United States, then He owes |    My boss is a 
 an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah."   - Billy Graham   |  Jewish carpenter.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: day_c@cs.uwa.oz.au (THE BIG BANANA)
Subject: Legal steroids???
Organization: Dept. Computer Science, University of Western Australia.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 08:15:23 GMT

	Is there such a thing as a legal steroid. Ive heard of using testosteron
but what do I say to my doctor. "Hey Doc, can ya give me something to make me
muscles big?" Will this work. I also heard of a drug that is used to aid in the
treatment of Epilepsy being good. Any info??? (No agro goodygoodies please)
	Craig.

	ps Im a hard gainer..

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