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From: howie@intermec.com (Howard Kaplan x1696)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Why not Supra?
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:08:23 GMT
Reply-To: howie@intermec.com (Howard Kaplan x1696)
Distribution: na
Organization: Intermec Corporation, Everett WA

In article <9782@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello) writes:
>
>People:
>
>  Simple question, I have a Mac SE/30 and I want to buy a v32.bis
>modem.  I'm thinking of the Supra Fax v32.bis, it looked good in
>the MacUser & MacWorld reviews, it's cheap, and there's a lot of
>'em out there.  But now I'm hearing a lot of people who aren't 
>happy with them.
>  My question: is there any specific complaints about them I should
>know of?  Should I not buy it, and why?  Also, if not the Supra
>what would you recommend instead?
>
>                               Thanks,
>
>                                  -- Nick
>
>
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Here is why. I received this from David Tse and it is a repost.

Howard Kaplan

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Subject: Re: Article on Modem Wanted
To: howie@intermec.com (Howard Kaplan x1696)
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> 
> David,
> 
> Please forward a copy of that review. I was jsut ready to pop for the SUpra
> based on the MacUSer review.
> 
> Howard Kaplan
> 
Howard,
Here it is, and I'll do a repost soon.
[begin modems comparison article]
From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Intel Modems
Date: 16 Nov 92 03:17:47 GMT
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/

In <5760.48.uupcb@uttsbbs.uucp> john.navas@uttsbbs.uucp (John Navas) writes:
>A serious limitation of the 400 is that it's a "DOS-only" modem --
>since Intel did not use Flash RAM or EEPROM for the firmware, it has
>to be downloaded each time you power up, and Intel only provides a DOS
>device driver to do the job.  :-(

From this and other comments, your complaints about Intel's modems seem to
be based on poor OS/2 or Unix support for the Intel faxmodem -- is this
correct?  Because having the firmware loaded during boot-up for a
DOS/Windows machine (like mine) isn't a drawback (it's done with all the
rest of the crap in the CONFIG.SYS file.)

Then I'll amend my recommendation: it's a very good modem if you're using a
DOS/Windows machine.  (Sorry, I should have been more specific.)

                           "Once again, Paul, you have crystallized my
                            thoughts perfectly."
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From: brown@brauhaus.wariat.org (Dan Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Zap!!
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:53:51 GMT
Organization: Morgue Brewing Company, Cleveland Oh.


Don't know if you all remember, but... I posted a while back about an 
Intel 2400ex that had been blown out durning an electrical storm...

Well... its been a while, but, I did call the company, they said that they
would take a look at the modem, and either repair or replace it. So, I sent
it to them. 

After a bit of a mix up by my girlfriend, and how I wanted the thing sent
(it was "mailed" rather than UPS'ed... something Intel specifically reccomendedagainst) it got to the company. About a week and a half after I sent it, I
got a Fed Ex with a brand spanking new, complete with docs and shrink wrap,
Intel 2400ex!!! No charge!

While the Intel 2400ex isn't a great modem (its ONLY 2400 with MNP5), I
would have to say that I am not upset about the service that Intel has
provided on it. Thanks Intel!


Dan Brown
Morgue Brewing Company, Cleveland Oh.
brown@brauhaus.wariat.org
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: osyjm@cs.montana.edu (Jaye Mathisen)
Subject: Re: UART 16550 chip compatibles?
Organization: CS
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:37:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.035906.26947@coe.montana.edu> osyjm@cs.montana.edu (Jaye Mathisen) writes:

Thanks for the tips dudes, but I did run MSD outside of windows, just after
a reboot.

Omen's DSZ stuff has no trouble driving the port at 57,600, whereas before
installing the card, I couldn't do any better than 38,400, so I assume it's
found the 550 and is "doing the right thing".
-- 
 Jaye Mathisen, COE Systems Manager                (406) 994-4780
 410 Roberts Hall,Dept. of Computer Science
 Montana State University,Bozeman MT 59717	osyjm@cs.montana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: ralph@yo_dud.bell.ca (Ralph Doncaster)
Subject: Cmd line class2 fax sware?
Reply-To: ralph@dci.pinetree.org
Organization: /home/yo_dud/ralph/.organization
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:14:22 GMT

I'm looking for class 2 fax recevie software that will work from the
dos or unix command prompt.  I'm looking for something that will
receive a fax from the modem after the call has been picked up and
determined as a fax by another software package.
The software included with my fax/modem was QuickLinkII Fax, and it's
fax receive tsr wants to monitor the phone line itself, waiting for
the ring.  I'd like to be able to use the fax option in Waffle, so I
can run Waffle and fax receive software together.
please reply to: ralph@dci.pinetree.org, or post a response
From: howarth@med.uth.tmc.edu (Jack W. Howarth)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Zoom v.32-bis and echo cancellation...
Date: 16 Nov 1992 03:54:37 GMT


     Has anyone had any luck getting the optimize echo cancellation command
AT\E1 to work correctly on a Zoom v32-bis modem with or without fax. I have
the VFX model and find that after I execute the AT\E1 command I don't get
error correction or compression when I connect to other v.32-bis modems.
A friend sees the same thing on the fax-less version of the Zoom v32-bis
modem. Zoom gave me a lame excuse about the negotiation for error correction
taking longer than other modems might like with the echo cancellation in use.
Sounds to me like smoke to cover the fact the feature just doesn't work right.
I have seen that the Zoom v32/32-bis driver for Microphone II 4.0 for the Mac
has a menu item for this function so I am curious if anyone has had it work
right. Perhaps only on the v32 modems? I have heard that some v32-bis Zoom
modems had problems connecting to 2400 baud lines so I am curious if it 
might had worked right with an earlier set of EPROMS in the modem...
               Jack

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Department of Biochemistry                           Houston, Texas 77225
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: RE: Looking for ..[info,cellular,comments]REFRESH
From: aleung@uwpg02.uwinnipeg.ca
Date: 21 NOV 92 01:59:29 CST
Organization: University of Winnipeg

What kind of Cellular Phone you are using ?

Alan.
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From: gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews)
Subject: Re: ZyXel modems to connect to
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:26:33 GMT

Vijay_Anand@transarc.com writes:
>
>Folks,
>
>   I bought a ZyXel 1496E to work from home and am pretty happy with it.
>Unfortunately, my company's Telebit T2500s support V.32 and not V.32bis
>(are there any ROM upgrades to the T2500s to support V.32b?).
>

No, there aren't any ROM upgrades for the T2500 that add V.32bis, I'm
afraid.  The T3000 supports V.32bis (no PEP), and the WorldBlazer
supports V.32bis and PEP.


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From: simon@wotangate.sc.ti.com (Jean-Yves Simon)
Subject: Re: INTEL MODEMS
Reply-To: simon@wotangate.sc.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:43:22 GMT

In article 103114TRIGC@CUNYVM.BITNET, Burton Randol <TRIGC@CUNYVM.BITNET> () writes:

>into their latest driver software. I immediately downloaded the drivers,
>and found that the problem had in fact been corrected. A later release
>of the driver software enables 14400 fax send/receive.

Hi !
What is the driver you are talking about , is it the download.400 ? And
what is the version number. I downloaded the download.400 from Intel BBS
install it and as  a try, I called Intel faxback servive, but the speed is
still 9600, is it because their fax can only handle 9600 or is it because
I use the wrong driver ?
Thanks for any information.




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From: Vijay_Anand@transarc.com
Subject: ZyXel modems to connect to
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Folks,

   I bought a ZyXel 1496E to work from home and am pretty happy with it.
Unfortunately, my company's Telebit T2500s support V.32 and not V.32bis
(are there any ROM upgrades to the T2500s to support V.32b?). I would
like to connect up to BBSs that support ZyXel's 16800bps speed. Are
there any BBSs and other places I can dial into using the Zyx 16800
speed? Is there such a list anywhere. If not, I'm willing to compile
such a list and include it in this group's FAQ. Do CompuServe or Prodigy
or others have ZyXels? How about V.32bis?

Any info on the above questions welcome.
Thanks,
Vijay
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Dirct Phone for ZyXEL
From: nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello)
Date: 21 Nov 92 03:22:46 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: God of Chemistry
Originator: nick@unixd1.cis.pitt.edu


People:

  Someone asked for the number for ZyXEL to get a catalogue:

     here it is:  800-255-4101
                  714-693-0808
                  714-693-8811 (fax)

                                             4920 E. La Palma Ave
                                             Anaheim, CA 92807
                                             
  
    
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From: kenh@world.std.com (Ken Hancock)
Subject: Re: Opinions about ZOOM 14.4K FAX modem?
Organization: Isle Systems - Waltham, MA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:54:50 GMT

In article <JDESAI.92Nov19095619@morpheus.irbdg.East.Sun.COM> jdesai@morpheus.irbdg.East.Sun.COM (Jatin Desai -- Contractor) writes:
>I am sorry, but I just want a modem that works. I spend enough time
>debugging my own software. I do not have time to debug someone elses.
>Even if I was willing to spend time/money figuring out what was going on,
>I would have very hard time figuring out what kind of FAX the other party:
>has "Excuse me Mr/Ms.xxx could you run down to the mail room and check the
>fax model number on your fax machine?". I want to be able to connect to
>all faxes out there (old and new). 

You obviously didn't read the original post very carefully.  Without giving
developers the full information on both sides of the telephone line
a bug report is useless.  Your modem may work just fine and the receiving
fax may be quirky.  Buying a normal fax machine may not solve you're problem.
I've certainly had problems connecting between two normal fax machines.

Ken

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: gtoal@cursci.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Motorola Codex 326x should be reference for all others 
Distribution: world
Organization: Current Drugs
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:42:05 +0000


In article <1992Nov17.151714.11062@schbbs.mot.com> bates_r*Corp_C@msm.cdx.mpt.com writes:
>     I am surprised that I haven't seen a posting here that compares any
>modem with the Motorola Codex 326x modems. Sure, my company makes them,
>but I don't work in sales and I do use them myself. Hell, 24Kbps
>synchronous is hard to beat on a dial line.

I think the majority of us don't give a damn, because we don't want to fall
into the proprietary trap that everyone did once before by rushing out to
get PEP modems.  Now its clearer that v32bis has advantages by virtue of
being a standard, and we're all waiting for v.fast to be finalised.  No-one
wants to be first on the block with another expensive toy that'll be a
heap of junk that doesn't talk to anyone else in 2 years time.

G
From: hm002b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Hasit YJM Mehta)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: ZyXEL new ROM released -- 5.04
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:17:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: galileo.1992Nov22.171711.14358
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <1992Nov22.015917.13148@ccsun7.csie.nctu.edu.tw> sycheng@csie.nctu.edu.tw writes:
>
> Hi :
> 
>   ZyXEL just released their new 5.04 ROM code. You can retrieve them from
> ftp.csie.nctu.edu.tw.
> 
>   Enjoy.
>
>--
>System Manager of Computer Center          |     Sincerely Yours
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>National Chiao Tung University             | sycheng@csie.nctu.edu.tw
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Subject: Re: Ever Left a Supra on for 24 hrs ?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:25:13 GMT


In article <1992Nov20.003301.17265@nuscc.nus.sg> isc10192@nusunix1.nus.sg (KOH KHANG WEE) writes:
>Hi 
>My question is
>
>Has Anyone left his Supra on for 24 hrs and lived to tell the tale ?

My Supra FAXmodem V.32bis has been on continuously since I purchased it
(maybe 1 month ago) with no problems of any kind.

Yours is defective. Take it back and exchange it.

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From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: U.S. BBS for ZyXEL 
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 02:27:45 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <69707@cup.portal.com> jhumkey@cup.portal.com writes:

   I have a new ZyXEL U-1496E (and like it a lot).
   I've setup Procomm Plus and Telix both with no problems.
   The fax work great (once I put it in "Normal" not "Fine" mode, our
   fax at work couldn't handle it.)
   
   I'm working on the Voice mail... and wondered if there was a U.S.
   BBS for ZyXEL that might have some sample code written.

Their BBS has ZFAX21, which has some rudimentary voice mail stuff.
My big problem is that the 5.00 ROMs don't return all the codes that
their documentation says it does.  I can only get 3, 6, 9, and # out
of it.  Hopefully the 5.02 ROMs (on order) will work better.

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com> What canst *thou* say?
Crynwr Software           Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: isc10192@nusunix1.nus.sg (KOH KHANG WEE)
Subject: Supra 24 hrs use request !
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:52:14 GMT

To all netters, thanks for the wonderful response, I cannot mail all of
u all personally, as i dun have the time, but thanks a million for all
your responses.

As response to a request,

90% of all people who responded have left the supra on for > 24 hrs
87% says there were no problems at all
10% left the supra on for < 24 hrs

most of the people responded have either heat sinks or a 1amp power
supply, these are recommendede.

the 600ma power supply was flamed.....and the 650ma power supply from
Supra was recommended.

All agreed the new ROMs (1.2H or J) do help in the heat problems.

I hope the above is of use to anyone who has questions about supra.

BTW, one more net question, anyone has a Supra Internal v.32bis ? Can
anyone out there compare the merits of the Internal to the External ?

As usual i dun wan flames, cos we Supra users like our modems.

regards

Jerry Koh

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: kfason@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Kevin Fason)
Subject: couple ques
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 07:50:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

I have a couple questions.

What is the number (preferbly 800) for ZyXEL?
Or if, a representative is in here, please send me mail!

Also, can someone email me who has a noise killer (or suppressor...).  I
am interested in getting one.  I'd like info about it, price (if purchased), and
any other info...  thanks!

-KF


Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: Rick <bates_r*Corp_C@msm.cdx.mpt.com>
Subject: Motorola Codex 326x should be reference for all others
Organization:  Motorola Codex
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:17:14 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

     I am surprised that I haven't seen a posting here that compares any
modem with the Motorola Codex 326x modems. Sure, my company makes them,
but I don't work in sales and I do use them myself. Hell, 24Kbps
synchronous is hard to beat on a dial line.

____________________________________________________________

   Rick Bates
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From: wolfgang@netcom.com (Wolfgang Henke)
Subject: Re: Any Digicom Scout+ bugs?
Organization: Netcom
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 08:40:29 GMT

Kent Talarico (kent@rahul.net) wrote:
: I have had many problems connecting to the 3 Scout+ modems on this system.

It seems we have narrowed down the problem now to the 2915 ROMs. If you
have these ROMs and use the Scout+ as a dialin modem, you might get 
occasional lockups. For dial-out usage there seems to be no problem
with these ROMs.

Please phone Digicom Tech Support for an upgrade in this case, or email
me with a detailed descripton of the problem, the version of your ROMs and a 
shipping address. 
-- 
   _________________________________________________________________________
   Wolfgang Henke     Data lanes not car pool lanes      wolfgang@netcom.com
From: mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst)
Subject: Re: 14400 modems and 16550 UARTS (Problem with higher trfr speeds)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 05:39:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Programmer's Pit Stop, Ann Arbor MI

In article <1e715fINN739@aludra.usc.edu> gartrell@usc.edu (Fred Gartrell) writes:
>I just purchased a secondary I/O card that has the 16550 UART installed
>on it.  I have been using a 16450 UART for several months now and wanted
>to speed up my file transfers.

Were you having problems before with lowered throughput due to dropped
incoming characters?  If not, then the buffers on a 16550 UART will do
absolutely nothing to increase your transfer speed.

What speed are you running your serial port at?  What kind of
connection do you have (V.32, V.32bis, etc.)?  Are you using MNP4 or
V.42?  How about MNP5 or V.42bis?  What protocol are you using?  What
kind of computer do you have?  What kind of computer is at the other
end?  Are other people dialing in with V.32bis modems able to get
higher transfer rates?  If so, what are they doing differently?

>923 CPS, the max speed I received with the 16450.  Must I try different
>protocols, change modem settings, become a communications expert, throw
>the new I/O card away.

The first two are good suggestions.  Becoming a communications expert
is not really necessary, but certainly a good thing; modern V.32bis
modems are considerably more complex than V.22bis modems, and require
a corresponding increase in understanding.  Throwing the I/O card away
may not necessarily help you much, but realize that if your problems
aren't related to dropping incoming characters, a buffered UART will
do very little to help you out.

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From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: Compatability problem? (Hayes V-Series & Intel Satisfaxtiob 400e)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:16:36 GMT

lfinkelstein@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>Here at my office we do daily file transfers (text files) with one of our 
>clients.  They have one of the Hayes V-Series modems.  I don't remember which 
>one, but it is a 9600 modem.  We have been using a 2400 modem that came with 
>the computer, but decided to speed things up.  So, I went and bought an Intel 
>SatisFaxtion 400e v32.bis 14.4.  I used the Intel to connect to my local 
>Internet site at 14.4 with no problem, but whenever we connect with the client 
>the connection drops to 2400 baud immediately.  I called intel, and they blame 
>Hayes, saying that the V-Series modems aren't using the v32 standard.  

>Now, my question.  Is there anyway at all to make these 2 modems connect at 
>9600 baud, or did my company just blow $500 on a useless modem?
>(Not really useless, we will be able to use it with other clients eventually, 
>but that's not the point)
*----
If you got the Hayes modems with the proprietary protocol, then yes,
you blew $ 500 on useless modems.  But you got a couple years use out
of them, didn't you?
--
	Mike Berger
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
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