From: underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Independent, Fun-loving, Open-minded Asian Woman
Organization: Miners for a Heart of Gold
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 20:54:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.163948.21925@newsgate.sps.mot.com>
jeffh@pisces.sps.mot.com  (Jeff Heilner) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.033233.22612@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
>underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>> Hmm...  He's the guy from s.c.j.  I guess that he must have
>> received e-mail from a Chi...  Well, never mind.
>You've mistaken me for someone else.
>This is my first post to a soc.culture group of any kind.
>(And I don't know anyone named Chi.)

I apologize for overstepping myself.

>My point was simply this: 
>The act of someone XXXXXX-ge returning to the homeland of XXXXXX-ge people  
>to find a wife will be accepted by those who are XXXXXX-ge. However those  
>same XXXXXX-ge folks may abhor someone of ZZZZZZ-ge going to the homeland  
>of XXXXXX-ge to find a XXXXXX-ge wife. 
>...
>It just seems that if your going to dispraise this type of "bigotry", it's  
>more useful to do it "in general", rather than denounce a particular race  

By the way, there is not Chinese-ge race, but there is a Chinese-ge ethnic
group.  I am not denouncing the Chinese-ge ethnic group.

I am denouncing the bigotry exhibited by Chinese-cu Chinese-ge.  Note that
I have not said a thing about non-Chinese-cu Chinese-ge.  I am sure that
Western-cu Chinese-ge do not exhibit this bigotry.

Please.  Don't lump Western-cu Chinese-ge in with Chinese-cu Chinese-ge.
That is insulting and would be like calling someone a Nazi without just
cause.

>for exhibiting it.  

I disagree with this last statement.

It is, in fact, more useful to point out that a particular cultural
group exhibits bigotry.  By the way, the Chinese-ge are an ethnic group,
not a race, and "bigotry" should not be in quotes.  When Chinese-cu Chinese-ge
condemn Caucasians-ge/Africans-ge for preferring to date only Chinese-ge
women, that behavior is clearly bigotry.

To top it all off, the number of (1) Chinese-ge who prefer to marry/date only
Chinese-ge women is much larger than the number of (2)
Caucasians-ge/Africans-ge who prefer to date only Chinese-ge women.  Similarly,
the number of (1) Chinese-ge who go to Asia to marry a Chinese-ge woman is
much greater than the number of (2) Caucasians-ge/Africans-ge who go to
Asia to marry a Chinese-ge woman.

_Yet_, Chinese-cu Chinese-ge (not Western-cu Chinese-ge) praise #1 but
condemn #2.

It is _far_ more effective to identify the _specifics_ of the group
that makes the bigotted condemnations.  For example, when some Caucasians-ge
mock and accuse Africans-ge of being so-and-so, it is far more effective
and useful for them to say that some other Caucasians-ge are also so-and-so.
It is a far more effective rebuttal than using generalities.

For example, some Caucasians-ge say that some Africans-ge are "lazy".  It
is a far more effective rebuttal to point out that laziness is not inherent
to the African-ge community and that some Caucasians-ge are _also_ "lazy".
The inclusion of specifity has a greater "punch" than merely using
generalities.

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