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From: stud9j25@bcars243.UUCP (Steven Kostur)
Subject: Re: Linda Hunt in Space Rangers
Reply-To: stud9j25@bcars243.UUCP (Steven Kostur)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:03:59 GMT

In article <AMT.93Jan11094728@dunvegan.linus.mitre.org>, amt@linus.mitre.org (Anne Tallant) writes:
>
>In message <1993Jan07.051504.18591@admiral.uucp> dave@admiral.uucp
>(Dave Litchman) writes:
>>Funny you should mention that. Linda Hunt played the Shadout Mapes, and while
>>she was not the Bajoran priestess, she has a major role in CBS's new SF 
>>series, Space Rangers. She plays the commander of the Rangers' base.
>
>And what a waste of her acting abilities.  She was incredible in The
>Killing Fields.  How on earth did she get involved with Space Rangers?
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Wasn't it "The year of living dangerously" ?
From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DSN or DS9 ?
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:50:10 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <C0F34y.D7I@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> jeffb@audiolab.UWaterloo.ca (jeff bamford) writes:
>	I guess we're lucky that they're not using Roman Numerals like we
>do for the movies, that would make it : ST:DSIX.

Star Trek:  Deep SIX? :-)

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( Now in the Boston, Massachusetts area! )

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From: mullen@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Steven L. Mullen)
Subject: Actor who plays Quark
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:58:04 GMT
Keywords: Quark, DSN


TV Guide says that the actor who plays Quark was on "Brooklyn Bridge."  Whom
did he play on that show?  The only one I can think of is Sid, the drugstore
owner.

-- 

Steven L. Mullen
University of Illinois School of Chemical Sciences
E-mail to mullen@aries.scs.uiuc.edu
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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Runabouts
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:49:23 GMT

In article <73095@cup.portal.com> fleming@cup.portal.com (Stephen R Fleming) writes:
>> Yancy

>I assume that's the Yangtze river in China.

>How come Starfleet stuff is so rarely named after people/places/
>things from NON-human worlds, eh?

Bcause you wouldn't recognize the names?

"This is the Gizigashwartz awaiting clearance for take-off."

"Gzigaschwartz?  What the hell's that?"


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From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Lurking plot complication in DS9
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:48:09 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

>>
> 
> I'm not so sure that this is correct.  If you remember, in the TNG episode
> with trill, the reason he didn't want to be transported was because he was
> hurt, and in this *weakened* condition, transport would be harmful to the 
> worm.  I don't think it hurts the worm if you transport when they are in 
> good health.
> 
> Sanjai Rao.
> 
> 
> 
I checked the episode, and it appears that this transporting restriction
applies whether or not the person is healthy.

Steven.K.Manfred


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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: deep review 9: "the emiss
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:24:41 EST

 -=> Jorge Diaz babbled to All and look what he/she said! <=-

 >>>Spoilers follow, so beware...
 
 
 >Lessen the mass using a shield of some kind?  Sorry, I don't buy it.
 >And I agree about the stupid bubble.

 JD> Hmmm.  I must have been getting the Coke when that part was mentioned.
 JD> I missed the "lessen the mass" part.  One other poster mentioned in
 JD> was once on another episode.  

They were trying to lower the station's inertial mass by creating a low 
level subspace field.  A subspace field is what propels ship into warp, 
and thus did lighten the ship.



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Date: Wed,  6 Jan 1993 00:18:59 -0500 
From: Robert Edward Timlin <rt16+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Ships at Wolf-359 (DS9)


     Maybe a wee bit of a spoiler, so...
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Whew!

     After rewatching the opening battle sequence of the DS9 premiere (and
slow-motioning through some of those awesome effects), there is no Galaxy
class ship to be seen. What we do see are:

     The Saratoga, yet another modified Reliant-looking ship (be neat if it was
the same Saratoga from ST IV, refitted over the years). One Excelsior class
ship which gets the front half of its saucer blown off (in one of the coolest
effects since the Enterprise's destruction in ST III). A Nebula class ship and
an Ambassador class heavy cruiser (NOT a Galaxy class, though at first glance
it may look like one - it is the same class as the Enterprise-C) which swoop in
firing after the Saratoga is caught. Then, we see one of those dinky scout/
science vessels (like the Grissom in ST III and the ship that drops off Dax and
Bashir later in the show) get most of itself blown to bits through the window
of what is probably the Sisko family's quarters on the Saratoga. The only
other ships seen are escape pods and (off in the distance as the escape pods
fly off) what looks like a mangled saucer section of some ship - seemed
circular, so probably not a Galaxy's.
     And that, as ol' Porky Pig would say, is all folks!

                                                   -Robb Timlin
                                                    rt16@andrew.cmu.edu
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From: cazabon@csd.uwo.ca (Yvan Cazabon)
Subject: Re: Space Rangers SUCKS BIG TIME!!!
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:11:12 GMT

To quote a friend of a friend: In space, nobody can hear you snore.

Yvan
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From: liebea@vccnw03.its.rpi.edu (Adam Fred Lieberman)
Subject: Re: Uniform Colors...When are they mandatory?
Reply-To: liebea@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:19:00 GMT

In article <29DEC92.02759535.0031@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA>, N2SX000 <N2SX@UNB.CA> writes:

|>    ...  A Lt. Cmdr. is a type of commander.  Would you
|> say a Lt. junior grade is not a Lt.?  Lt. is an adjective which
|> modifies the noun Commander.  (geez, get picky, why don't you??? :) )
|> 

     Sometimes, when an adjective modifies a noun, the original meaning of
the noun is no longer preserved.
From: cary@access.digex.com (Cary R. Stephan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Picard's Book.
Date: 4 Jan 1993 17:32:48 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In the first season episode they showed the cover: the Globe Illustrated
Shakespeare (I have a copy of it and (had I thought of it) could have had
P. Stewart sign it at a 'con--nuts!).  However, that was not the book
shown in COC; but I suspect it was another volume of the Bard's works
(perhaps a first folio edition).

cary@access.digex.com

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From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Female CO for the E
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:21:19 GMT

In article <58145@dime.cs.umass.edu> michael@mosaic.cs.umass.edu (Michael Kieras) writes:
|
|It's always seemed to me that TOS was an adventure show with sappy little
|morality plays thrown in incidentally.  It was a lot of fun.
|
|TNG, on the other hand, is one
|heavy-syrupy lecture after another, lacking in depth, adventure, or anything
|much of interest.  Sure there are occasional gems, and that's why I watch
|the show, but for the most part it's just bad science, bad acting, bland
|dialogue, pixie dust, posession, misunderstood all-powerful aliens, bratty
|kids, an obnoxious, unfunny mother character, and some TOS guest appearances
|for the true believers to "oooh" and "aaah" at.  Oops, forgot that it's a
|special effects extravaganza.  Whoopee.

If you are so unenthusiastic about TNG, *why* are you reading r.a.st.*current*?
Too much time on your hands, perhaps?

		Dave Svoboda








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From: cmackin@bu.edu (Carl Mackin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DAX in Starfleet?!?
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:59:26 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

I would venture to guess that friendship is a small part of it,
another point is that they are not on a starship, and the fact 
that he was on a temporary assignment, not the officiating
officer of the facility.

It seems that there is little protocol as far as rank is
concerned.  If you remember, when the Doctor and Dax get
on DSN, the use first names in order to make a date for
???supper??? {In Dax's case - whan the doctor mentions the
name, it is most probably the hosts name}.

-Mac
From: stdnt171@whscdp.whs.edu (-=THE JESSTER=-)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: trill
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:29:30 CST
Distribution: usa
Organization: Washington HS, Milwaukee, WI

In article <C0o1w1.929@moxie.hou.tx.us>, hackney@moxie.hou.tx.us (Greg Hackney) writes:
> demetri@cgrg.ohio-state.edu  writes:
> 
>> What's in it for the host?
> 
> I don't remember the exact words, but I think Dax said something
> like "I'm still me", possibly meaning her non-Trill self?
> 

If I remember correctly she said, "I'm still the same old Dax," refering to her
trill self.

BTW, did anyone else notice this?  Wasn't Dax the name of that crewman in
STVI:TUC who's locker they found the gravity boots in?

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From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Replacement for Picard
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:33:20 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In <rawdon.726435004@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:

>>In BoBW, Riker is promoted to Captain (permanently). If Picard
>>does not return, then Big E is his. Picard comes back, though.

>Nope, I don't see it.  We would not have been stripped of his captain's rank
>if this had been the case.

What makes you think he was stripped of his rank rather than
relinquishing it voluntarily?  Do you believe that James Kirk
was "stripped" of his Admiral's rank in Star Trek-TMP?

If Riker wanted to remain on the Enterprise as Exec, he could not have
done it and kept his rank of Captain.  You cannot draw a Captain's
pay and privileges, on a permanent basis, unless you're doing the job 
of a Captain.
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From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: Replacement for Picard
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:35:12 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In <rawdon.726173446@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:

>Gee, it sure looked like "temporary command" to me.  When Picard came back,
>Riker was no longer in command.  Or are you using a different definition of
>"temporary" than I am?

At the time, Star Fleet didn't expect Picard to come back.  Remember,
Admiral --- had written him off for dead.  And then, to reinforce the
fact, he gave Riker command of the Enterprise.


>It seemed to me that Riker was put in command because there was no time (or
>resources) to get someone more qualified out to the ship, given the threat of
>the Borg.

He could have done that as a Commander or a brevet Captain.  But 
the Admiral promoted him to the rank of Captain instead.  
 

>>Agreed.  It would be interesting to see the writers incorporate this
>>into the show, with Riker getting passed over for command because he
>>waited too long, getting increasingly anxious, etc.

>Well, except that they haven't done a single thing with this in the 2+ years
>since "The Best Of Both Worlds".  I think the writers (as usual for TNG) 
>just stuck that bit in BOBW for that one story and have conveniently ignored 
>it ever since.

I didn't say I expected the writers to do that.  I said it would
be interesting if they did.

Then again, I'd be in favor of almost anything to make Riker more
interesting.
From: david@cats.ucsc.edu (David Michael Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Deep Review 9: "The Emissary" (SPOILERS)
Date: 8 Jan 93 08:04:56 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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In article <1993Jan6.214546.25648@cci632.cci.com> tvf@cci632.cci.com (Tom Frauenhofer) writes:

|The opening scene was very well done, with the Borg attack at Wolf 359.  I
|loved the effects, my favorite being the escape pod scene.  I was curious
|just what an escape pod would be like...

It was very suprising in it's originality. Most escape pod scenes
typically shoot to an exterior shot showing the pod rocketing off into
space. In this case however, it is the rest of the universe that moves
away, as Brooks broods his fate. There is no "oh, hang on, were making
a escape" false excitement. Everyone is more than used to the inertial
dampeners. Only time to be stunned by the loss of life....

|Related to the above, I couldn't help but do some high school english
|analysis of why when Sisko and Dax left the shuttle Sisko saw a desolate,
|stormy planet whereas Dax saw a peaceful, quiet world.  Something to do with
|the aliens reflecting back at them the "turmoil of their souls" or some such
|nonsense.

The point is, and i think it is very important, that the only way the
eternal beings could communicate with Sisko and Dax is through their
own memories or selves, since any real communication is impossible.
Sisko saw a desolate, stormy planet because that's how he saw himself
due to Jan's death. (Your right about the high school english analysis
though...)

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From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Are TRILLs parasites or symbiotes?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 11:55:04 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <1993Jan11.131925.1@gsbacd.uchicago.edu> cs_carol@gsbacd.uchicago.edu writes:
>I have a problem with the TRILL. It seems to me that when a TRILL
>inhabits a host's body, the TRILL personality takes over and the
>host personality is lost (or supressed). This seems to happen in
>the episode where Riker loans his body to Odan. And also, in DSN,
>with Dax's flashback to the TRILLS transfer to its current host.
>
>Is the TRILL a *parasite*? and if so, what about the rights of the
>host? If the TRILL is a symbiote, what benefit is brought to the
>host by the TRILL? In both the TNG episode and DSN episode, the 
>final hosts seemed sentient. There is no evidence that the TRILL
>personality and the host personality mix.
>
>Am I the only one who is bothered by this?

	No, you're not the only one bothered by this.  From everything we've
seen, the hosts appear to be sentient.  However, there's gotta be something in
it for the hosts, because if there wasn't, I'm sure some hosts would be
fighting back either before bein' trilled or during one of the periods where
chemical cycles in the body give the hosts control of the body (as I remember
reading in early postings about DS9).

	I can't think what, though.
From: egorr@hebb.uoregon.edu (Eric Gorr)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Best Episode?
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:46:53 GMT
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To choose one is hard to do....

but if I had to, I would pick Yesterday's Enterprise....

Along with that, it would have to be The Inner Light.



In article <1993Jan6.143637.29934@newssun.med.miami.edu>,
dbrown@newssun.med.miami.edu (Daniel Brown) wrote:
> 
> I only recently became a fan of TNG and even more recently a reader of this
> net, so I hope that this question doesn't open a previously closed 
> Pandora's Box.  What is in your opinion the best eposiode of TNG?  I realize
> that are probably many, but try to choose one.  I catch a lot of the 
> re-runs on a local channel, but it's pretty unreliable (so I'd like to
> rent the videos of the good episodes I've missed).  
> 
> My personal favorite thus far is "Darmok," where Picard is beamed to an
> unfamiliar planet to establish communications with the captain of an alien
> ship.  I thought that the parallel with _Gilgamesh_ was great.
> 
> E-mail replies welcome.
> 
> Dan
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From: trekker@leland.Stanford.EDU (Sanjai Dwivedula Rao)
Subject: Re: Replacement for Picard
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 09:43:36 GMT

In article <ewright.726735247@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>In <1993Jan09.055545.3719@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu> msmallwo@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (M. Lee Smallwood) writes:
>
>>That was EXACTLY my point in saying that he was 'stripped' of
>>his rank. (IMHO) He *certainly* was stripped of the rank. No
>>one freely gives up rank. 
>
>So?  Are you saying James T. Kirk was a nobody?


James T. Kirk did NOT freely give up rank.  In STIV:TVH, all charges against
the crew are dropped, except one, directed solely at Kirk.  The charge,
disobeying the orders of a superior officer, warranted a punishment along
the lines of a rank reduction.  Thus, Kirk was reduced in rank from Admiral
to Captain.  Although this reduction was probably something he wanted, it
was still due to an official act of Starfleet.

Sanjai Rao.

-"I would like to think that there are always, possibilities"- 
-Spock, STII:TWOK
From: CXMP000 <CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: Re: 15 Re: Lurking plot complication in DS9
Organization: McGill University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:51:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.212533.8164@msi.com> bill@snoopy (Bill Poitras) writes:
>S104374@UMRVMA.umr.edu wrote:
>: >I'm not so sure that this is correct.  If you remember, in the TNG episode
>: >with trill, the reason he didn't want to be transported was because he was
>: >hurt, and in this *weakened* condition, transport would be harmful to the
>: >worm.  I don't think it hurts the worm if you transport when they are in
>: >good health.
>: >
>: >Sanjai Rao.
>:
>: Actually, I think the problem is that the biofilter would determine
>: the worm to be a parasite and eliminate it as such....
>
>This was never said in the TNG episode.  Perhaps you read it somewhere in
>a TNG novel?
>
Actually, I recall that this was said in "The Host".

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