From: Jim_Drew@cryo.RAIN.COM (Jim Drew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: EMPLANT, NeXT and Mail Fraud
Date: 3 Oct 92 07:17:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: cryo.Jim_Drew.0dkb
Organization: Cryogenic Software - Portland, OR
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.21 (Sep 03 1992)


In <kViyRB2w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>, dead@mindvox.phantom.com (Bruce Fancher) writes:
> >Actually, I was correct as confirmed by several other hardware oriented
> >net people...the NeXT Color PostScript board uses the i860.  This is what
> >I have in the way of schematics and I have never seen any other NeXT color
> >systems.
> 
>      There is no such thing as the "NeXT Color PostScript board."  If you
> were really refering to a schematic and not spouting nonsense you wouldn't
> make that mistake.  Yes, as previously stated the NeXTDimension board (which
> is a graphics card for NeXTCubes, rumored to have been discontinued) does
> use an i860.  However this has NOTHING to do with PostScript in particular.
> Since the topic of discussion is (supposedly) emulating the NeXT with Emplant
> I can't imagine what the i860 has to do with anything.  Jim, you may or may 
> not have a real product here.  I don't know.  Why don't you save your
> credibility and just say "I made a mistake" rather than double talking
> yourself into a deeper hole.
 
Because I "didn't make a mistake".  All I have said is that the NeXT Color
PostScript board (a name I got from the title block of the schematic) uses
the i860.  It is obviously true that not all color NeXT systems use this
board, but as I have stated, I have never seen a NeXT that didn't.
 
>      Incidentally, even with an 040, emulating a NeXT is totally out of
> the question.  You'd need a 21' screen, a DSP and all the other assorted
> hardware.  Even if through some miracle of engineering you managed to rig
> some sort of NeXT emulation together, you'd have the _slight_ problem
> remaining of that 100 megs or so of NeXTStep operating system which is the
> heart of the NeXTstation . . . and it ain't for sale.  I can only imagine the
 
Why on earth would you need a 21" monitor unless you are blind.  Monitors
made today in the 6 inch range are able to produce the same kind of
resolution as 21 inch CAD monitors.  A DSP can be emulated through
software well enough to provide sound (not as good of a quality though).
People who already own a NeXT will already have the OS, others will have
to find a way to buy it...which can be done.
 
> kinds of things Jim will say to sell his product, but I develop software on
> the NeXT and I am in fact using one at this very moment.  Take it from me, 
> it's ain't gonna happen.
 
Yeah right, and that is the same kind of attitude that destroys the very
computer this emulations group gets it's name from...   ...and you can't
multi-task a program in SuperVisor mode too, eh????
>      Oh yeah, and to the folks who are so indignant that Mr. Drew is
> being pressured to release his product . . . when you cash someone's check
> and fail to send them a product it's a FELONY . . . can you say Mail Fraud?
> I knew you could!
 
This is the only thing that you stated that is true...however, since we
ahave started shipping, now that avenue of net-bashing has been shut
off....rats! (Could this mean peace and quiet?)


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