HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: "Rene G. Rodriguez" <rene@CS.RICE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Acerca de Salinas
Reply-To: Multiple recipients of list MEXICO-L <MEXICO-L@TECMTYVM.BITNET>
Organization: Rice University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:04:43 GMT

|> No me interesa lo que diga tu amigo. Cifras muchacho cifras, ese el
|> nombre del juego. Veamos por ejemplo, Monterrey: Desempleo hace tres anos
|> aprox 16%, desempleo hoy aprox 3%.
|>
|> A nivel nacional desempleo hace 5 anos (sin incluir a los subempleados)
|> aprox 13%. Desempleo hoy aprox 4%.

Si a cifras vamos, el programa Solidaridad dice 12% y el Colegio
de Mexico dice 25%. Y dado que no hay a quien creerle lo mejor es
darse una vueltecita y verlo con los propios ojos, no crees? O al
menos preguntar a alguien que este metido en los cocolazos.

|> >|> educativo, incremento en los gastos de interes social, crecimiento
|> >|> economico) y la situacion politica permanece mas o menos igual
|> >
|> >No recuerdo que en epocas de Lopez Portillo o De la Madrid hubiera
|> >tomas cronicas de alcaldias o se impidiera a algun gobernador el
|> >tomar posesion...
|>
|> No te acuerdas porque <bla bla bla>

No pos si. Saca mis palabras del contexto. Aqui va el parrafo
(completo) otra vez:

>> No recuerdo que en epocas de Lopez Portillo o De la Madrid hubiera
>> tomas cronicas de alcaldias o se impidiera a algun gobernador el
>> tomar posesion... Aunque en realidad se puede decir que esto es
>> un signo de que la situacion politica esta mejorando. Comentarios?

Asi que, si no me equivoco, creo que estoy de acuerdo contigo, no?

--rene

Newsgroups: soc.culture.mexican
From: marquez@res.wes.mot.com (Gilbert Marquez)
Subject: "EL DINERO"
Organization: Motorola Altair Product Operations
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:17:15 GMT

	"ElDinero"
...CON DINERO SE COMPRA
Una casa, pero no un hogar
UN Libro, pero no la sabiduria
Un aliado, pero no un amigo
Los cosmeticos, pero no la gracia natural
El sexo, pero no el Amor
La fiesta, mas no la felicidad
Las drogas, pero no la Paz
El armamento pero, no la Seguridad
La medicina, pero no la Salud
La comida, pero no la Vida
Un crucifico, pero no la fe
Un lugar en el cementerio, pero no en el cielo...
.
Si quieren le pueden seguir. ...
Organization: Doctoral student, Engineering and Public Policy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.mexican
From: DowJones@andrew.cmu.edu
Subject: Northern Telecom Signs $13M Pact With Mexico Oil Co >NT
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:25:38 -0500 

  

  MEXICO CITY -DJ- Northern Telecom Ltd. (NT) has signed a $13 million
supply contract with Petroleos Mexicanos, Mexico's national oil company,
to provide a telecommunications network.   

  In a press release, the company said the network, which includes the
integration of voice and data communications, will be installed this
year in Mexico City, Morales and Villahermosa.    
    1:24 PM
Newsgroups: soc.culture.mexican
From: Sergio Arellano Rio <BIT150@ITAMVMS1.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Notas
Reply-To: Multiple recipients of list MEXICO-L <MEXICO-L@TECMTYVM.BITNET>
Organization: ITAM, Mexico
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 13:59:01 GMT

Sobre lo de el D.F como estado es supuestamente una propuesta de todos los par-
tidos. La propuesta es el de hacer un Referendum o Plebicito para que la
ciudadania decida si el DF se convierte en Edo. o sigue como D.F.
 Sobre esto han habido discusiones acaloradas, pues unos dicen que ese cambio
traeria muchas desventajas, mientras que los partidos politicos de oposicion
se mueren de ganas porque se de.
Y usted... que opina???  :)

                                                        Saludos
                                                        Sergio Arellano Rio
                                                        Bit150@itamvms1

Newsgroups: soc.culture.mexican
From: matsbror@dit.lth.se (Mats Brorsson)
Subject: Summer Spanish language course in Mexico
Originator: matsbror@dit.lth.se
Reply-To: matsbror@dit.lth.se (Mats Brorsson)
Organization: Dept of Computer Engineering, Lund University, Sweden.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:32:59 GMT


I would like to have information on Spanish summer language courses
in Mexico, preferably in the north-west or in Mexico city.

Addresses, prices, length, anything relating to the courses
is of interest.

Please respond by email to:

matsbror@dit.lth.se

Regards,

   /Mats

-- 
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Mats Brorsson                              internet: matsbror@dit.lth.se
Dept. of Comp. Eng., Lund University       phone:    +46-46-104931
P.O. Box 118, S-221 00 Lund, SWEDEN        fax:      +46-46-104714
-- 
========================================================================
Mats Brorsson                              internet: matsbror@dit.lth.se
Dept. of Comp. Eng., Lund University       phone:    +46-46-104931
P.O. Box 118, S-221 00 Lund, SWEDEN        fax:      +46-46-104714
Organization: Doctoral student, Engineering and Public Policy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.mexican
From: DowJones@andrew.cmu.edu
Subject: Spartan Motors In $22.4M Pact With Mexican Bus Co >SPAR
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:05:12 -0500 

  

  CHARLOTTE, Mich. -DJ- Spartan Motors Inc. (SPAR) has signed a $22.4
million supply contract with Minibuses Alfa S.A., a Mexican bus manufacturer.
  

  In a press release, the company said it will supply 400 chassis, which
retail for about $56,000 each, over the next year.   

  (END) DOW JONES NEWS 01-22-93  

  11:04 AM
From: tonyads@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jose Antonio Alvarez-Trevit)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.mexican
Subject: Re: Musica (Musica mexicana)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 02:09:59 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: louie.cc.utexas.edu

In article <1993Jan20.230415.13673@cbnewse.cb.att.com> Multiple recipients of list MEXICO-L <MEXICO-L@TECMTYVM.BITNET> writes:
>[Baltazar Beltran:]
>>  rockeros urbanos... los cuales por seguir una corriente no tan
>>  "comercial" solo se les conoce por medio de comentarios o "tocadas"
>>  que llevan a cabo para la banda...
>
>Otra situacion mas penosa es que se los trague Telerisa. Maldita Vecindad
>ya va para alla que vuela.
>Saludos,
>--
>Marco A. Pinones
>Bitnet:   PL190827@tecmtyvm
>Inter:    mpinones@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx
>NeXTMail: mpinones@netmon.mty.itesm.mx
>
>pd. Alguien ha ido al museo del Chopo los fines de semana?
>


Pues hay excepciones -pocas- como el TRI. Este grupo comenzo' a fines de
los '60's y eera originalmente: "Three Souls in my Mind", para luego
traducirlo como "Tres Almas en mi Mente"'; los conoci' bien pues los
tres originales del Three... eran todos compa&eros mios en la secundaria
"Fray Juan de Zumarraga" en la col. del Valle.

Originalmente: ALejandro Lora(bajo y vocales); Carlos Hauptvogel(bateria) y
Carlos Alcerreca(guitarra); pero lo menciono pues aun el TRI actual es
un buen grupo que ha sobrevivido....

Saludos

J. ANtonio

Newsgroups: soc.culture.mexican
From: "Rene G. Rodriguez" <rene@CS.RICE.EDU>
Subject: Desempleo y crimen (era Re: Acerca de Salinas)
Reply-To: Multiple recipients of list MEXICO-L <MEXICO-L@TECMTYVM.BITNET>
Organization: Rice University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:03:28 GMT

|> >Si a cifras vamos, el programa Solidaridad dice 12% y el Colegio
|> >de Mexico dice 25%.
|>
|> Tus cifras parecen incluir a los subempleados, por lo menos coinciden
|> con las que yo tengo a ese respecto. Podrias verificar esto?

Gracias a Angel Hermida por aclarar las cifras de solidaridad y del
ColMex.

Cambiando de tema, que relacion hay entre desempleo/subempleo y
crimen en las zonas urbanas? O es el crimen independiente del
(des)empleo y mas bien esta relacionado con el tama~o de la poblacion?
O con ninguna de las anteriores y depende unicamente de la corrupcion
del sistema judicial?

--rene

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From: chao6@husc11.harvard.edu (James Chao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.mexican,soc.culture.misc,soc.culture.nepal
Subject: Model United Nations Conference in the Czech Republic
Date: 23 Jan 93 00:49:02 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

(If possible, please print out and post for people who might be
interested)

To all those interested in international relations, politics, and the
United Nations -- WorldMUN is a great forum for the discussion of 
current issues being debated by the United Nations today: 

Harvard World Model United Nations (WorldMUN) is an international
conference that brings together university students and young
professionals from around the globe to siimulate the workings of the
United Nations.  The second annual WorldMUN conference will be held from
March 28, 1993, through March 31, 1993, at the Hotel Diplomat in Prague,
The Czech Republic.  

Ten committees, representing the General Assembly, Economic and Social
Council, and Specialized Agencies of the United Nations, will discuss
issues from the actual UN agenda.  In addition to the formal debate of
resolutions, committee sessions will be augmented by presentations from
politicians, businessmen, scholars, and activists who have helped shape
the dramatic world events of recent years.

In this era of momentous political change, WorldMUN seeks to assess the
role of the United Nations in a new world order.  WorldMUN marks the first
truly international simulated United Nations where participants play the
roles of their own nation's ambassadors.  WorldMUN strives to teach
tomorrow's leaders about the United Nations and its methods of conflict
resolution.  It aims to foster skills in negotiation and debate, in order
that delegates may formulate resolutions on topics currently discussed in
the real United Nations.  These resolutions will be sent to the actual
United Nations committees.

WorldMUN 1993 will take place at the Hotel Diplomat in Prague,
The Czech Republic.  The Hotel Diplomat is Prague's most modern conference
center.  Prague is both one of the most beautiful metropoles of Europe and
an ideal location for debating current world politics and the changing
role of the United Nations.

The Hotel diplomat is a luxury resort that offers restaurants, shops, a
night club, and fitness and spa equipment.  Delegates will stay at the
Hotel Diplomat for the reduced rate of 130DM/day double occupancy, which
includes two meals a day.

Delegate registration is $US60 per delegate.  For more information, please
reply to this e-mail address or write/fax:
Joshua A. Salomon, Secretary-General
Harvard World Model United Nations 1993
Suite 23, 1430 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02138-3810
UNITED STATES

Telephone:  001-617-493-6995
Fax:  001-617-493-6995

James Chao
chao6@husc.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: marat@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr M Brunetti)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african,soc.culture.asean,soc.culture.caribbean,soc.culture.czecho-slovak,soc.culture.esperanto,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.filipino,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.magyar,soc.culture.singapore,alt.fan.disney.afternoon,rec.arts.disney,soc.culture.china
Subject: Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck
Date: 21 Jan 1993 10:25:30 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: leiden.csv.warwick.ac.uk

Hi!
I'm doing a serious (!!!) linguistic research.
If there is a traslation in your own language of Walt Disney's comics,
I would like to know the names of the following characters:
1) Donald Duck
2) Uncle Scrooge (Donald's rich uncle)
3) Hewey,Dewey, Louie (Donald's nephews)
4) Daisy Duck (Donald's girlfriend)
5) GrandMa Duck (Ducks' grandmother)
6) Gladstone (that very lucky duck)
7) Beagle Boys (those brothers who try always to steal Uncle Scrooge's
money)
8) Magica de Spell (the witch who try to steal Uncle Scrooge's first coin)
9) the rich opposer of Uncle Scrooge
10) Gyro Gearloose (the scientist)
11) Mickey Mouse
12) Goofy (Mickey's friend)
13) Chief O'Hara (Mickey's policeman friend)
14) Big Bad Pete (the criminal, Mickey's opposer)
15) The extraterrestrial (very thin, with his small pockets containing
everything)
16) Donald's cousin, quite dirty and dressind a red cap and a red jumper.
I would ask you to mail to me, not to the newsgroup, since I don't
read usually this newsgroup.
IMPORTANT: it is not necessary to know the name of ALL characters.
Also partial contributions are welcome.

Maurizio Brunetti
From: mukasa@panix.com (Michael K Mukasa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: WC94: AFRICA Group H news - Tanzania withdraws
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:54:46 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

THE COMMENTS BELOW ARE NOT MINE SO DON'T FLAME ME IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH
THEM.

In <1993Jan27.140922.19223@emr1.emr.ca> halchuk@seismo.emr.ca (Steve Halchuk) writes:

>Sadly, the BBC world service reports that Tanzania have withdrawn from
>Africa's Group H. They have sited financial constraints as the reason
>for withdrawal. The results of their previous matches will be
>nullified. The revised Group H now looks like:

>Africa Group H  P W D L  F  A Pts
>Madagascar	3 3 0 0  6  0  6
>Zambia	        2 1 0 1  4  2  2     
>Namibia 	3 0 0 3  0  8  0

>9  Oct   Madagascar 3 - 0 Namibia
>25 Oct   Namibia    0 - 4 Zambia
>20 Dec   Madagascar 2 - 0 Zambia
>17 Jan   Namibia    0 - 1 Madagascar

>Zambia will have to come up with 2 impressive home wins over Namibia
>and Madagascar in order to take top spot in this group.

>The withdrawal of 11 African teams is quite depressing. Would the
>African qualifying zone be better served if they set up a series of
>tournaments in some of the more economically/politically stable
>countries along the same lines as in Asia. The teams would have reduced
>travel costs and presumably (if the tournaments are properly marketed)
>would receive increased revenues by sharing in the greater gate
>receipts. European based players would have a greater chance of being
>released from club commitments if it was for a pre-determined 2-3 week
>period. The drawback of course is not having the support of your home
>fans for half of your games. However, I think that I would rather have
>my country play in a foreign locale and have the chance to advance than
>play at home and be forced to withdraw because of politics/economics.

>Stephen
>---
> +============+     | S. Halchuk, halchuk@seismo.emr.ca
> |  o \0\     |}    |"I've never been asked, 
> |      \     | }   | And I've never replied
> |      \\    |  }  | If I supported Glasgow Rangers" :-) The Pogues
>
From: pmmst8+@pitt.edu (Makala P Mweene)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: Questions about Angola
Date: 28 Jan 93 04:09:34 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


 (Riel Smit) writes:

>
>P.S. Congratulations Makala, I see you got your African name back in the  
>password file at pitt.edu - good for you.  (And no, I am not being sarcastic or  
>anything, this is just an honest congratulation.)
>Riel Smit                                                 gds@cs.uct.ac.za
>University of Cape Town      "..and he walked his days under African skies"


Well you know what, I put in a name cahnge request the longest time ago. As you
know I had no choice in the names I was given, and it not being part of the 
Africasn tradition to criticise your own parents, let me say that I respectfull
y disagree that I should have a European name. 

You know my name is listed in the way it appears on my documents. I hope to
change this soon although it will not be easy. I notice that you have a Dutch
name ("Riel"), I would say keep it up. Incidentally there were many Dutch in
the EE department of Univ. of Zambia going under such names as Joep, Jost 
etc....their surnmaes were van Beurden and van Ryjn respectively..

makala
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: jembei@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: Re: CAMEROON: After the Stolen Victory, What Tactic/Strategy ?
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:26:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.165930.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu>, pcs_mbei@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
> I don't have any fresh news from Cameroon. I have tried to read this and
> that as usual, to find some newly updated information regarding the
> actual political situation. But nothing I have read some has appeared
> to answer some of my questions. Therefore, I am resorting to you
> brothers, and readers of this. If anyone does have updates, please
> feed me with !
> 
> Second, after the fraudulent victory of president Biya DURING the recent
> presidential elections, and its condemnation by the international
> community, what has been the Cameroon's people re-action ? What (if
> any) strategy has been implemented in order to revert the situation ?
> Because the situation is ongoing, I think it is time for the opposition
> strategists and anyone interested in bringing about democracy to
> devise tactics which would force the government to either accept a run
> off election, or void the recent results.
> 
> In the past, a very successful movement (Operation Villes Mortes) was 
> initiated. Even though such a movement can hurt the economy, it should
> be used if the power appears too stubborn, arrogant, etc. Other 
> strategies (I want to say tactics) could be devised. For instance, rather
> than decree a massive "Opeartion Ghost Cities," the opposition could
> (1) boycott all or major government services (none would travel by train, 
> or use the SOTUC buses in Douala and Yaound, CAMAIR, etc.), (2) organize
> massive and non-violent demonstrations throughout the country, prayers.
> These should then be relayed by very massive, well-orchestrated "Opeartions
> Ghost Cities," sheduled on either a weekly or bi-weekly basis. The purpose
> being to attract more attention from foreign governments, and in a long
> run, weaken the government, and PEACEFULLY bring it down. The opposition
> should then avoid anti-democratic actions such as burning houses of
> some of the government's members (even though the security forces fire
> tear gas or true bullets on them). For the opposition might lose its foreign
> support if it failed into the trap and decided to resort to violent acts.
> One would argue that it is easy to say when you are not in Cameroon to
> sustain so much humiliation, oppression, etc. But there are various ways
> people can fight. Mongo Beti has used his pen over the decades. Not
> being able to visit our parents for 30 years can be construed as having
> passed away ! I know some of their agents may have access to this stuff,
> and may not hesitate to send our names to their bosses. But that is the 
> least of Poppi's worries. They could jail us, torture us, or murder us.
> But one thing is clear. The truth will prevail. They will kill us. But
> they won't perpetuate their nasty dictatorship. Cameroon will become
> truly DEMOCRATIC ! If they ignore that, then they are all blind, and 
> more DEAFER than Poppi !
> 
> Poppi
> =====
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: ulrike@gmd.de (Ulrike Bauer)
Subject: computer scientist looking for a job in S.A.
Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:52:20 GMT

My name is Ulrike. I'm seeking for a job as computer scientist. And
I would like to work in South Africa for some years. Does someone know,
where I can apply to or where I can get some addresses of firms or
research groups from, perhaps out of the subject area medicine?

I just finished my studies. 

To whom it may concern: I studied at the University of Bonn, Germany,
and wrote my masters thesis at the German National Research Center for
Computer Science (GMD). For my masters thesis I did some
investigations into the generalization behaviour of multilayer neural
nets using the NETtalk files for training and testing.
I have worked with the UNIX OS and the programming language C++. But
at the moment I get used to MS-DOS and novell.
During my studies I extended my knowledge in computer networks and
modelling them with analytical methods, neural nets, and my subsidiary
subject was physiology, a part of medicine.

I would be pleased to get some help and I'm looking forward to your
answers.

				Ulrike


Please send your email to 	ulrike.bauer@gmd.de (preferred)
or				ulrike@jargon.gmd.de							 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: pmmst8+@pitt.edu (Paul M Mweene)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: Re:(Was: Re: THIS IS NOT A RELIGIOUS FORUM)- a Repost
Date: 22 Jan 93 04:16:20 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

(Robert Firth) writes:

>
>
>Sorry, wrong civilisation.  The Library of Alexandria was greek from
>the first day to the last.  It was founded by a greek king of Egypt,
>Ptolemaios (II) Philadelphos.  All its librarians were greek, almost
>all the works in it were greek originals or translations - most
>famously of course the Septuagint, the greek translation of the
Jewish holy books



I am still researchin the subject which is why I have been quiet. Off my head
I know that most knowledge about the library came to us through Tzerzes, it
is ofcourse at this point a matter of much debate what the exact contents of 
the library were since they were all used to heat the city's baths for 9 mo
nths. A lot of the books I have point out that much of so called greek lite
rature of the time was plaguerised from Egypt. In Many cases greeks who nor
mally could not read hieroglyphics employed egyptians to translate old cir
cular and religious text. Such was the case with Maneto whom the greeks com
missioned to list all the kings who ever ruled egypt...
I want to avoid the kind of discussion where in one person emotionally decl
ares something but does not colloborate it with references which everyone
can read for themselves. This has not been easy however because books on e
gypt tend to be voluminous, and as yet, I haven't located on that deals in
the history and nature of the library of Alexandria. However I do intend to
see this through to the end.
 
The assertion that Greeks engaged in plageurism as soon as they took contr
ol of Egypt is one that is widely held by many Afrocentric scholars. Cons
ider the fact that the greeks were overawed with Egypt that the immediatel
y made it the capital of their empire. Bear in mind the fact that all greeks
of anynote went to study in Egypt. Also Socrates went to egypt and studied
there for years, shortly there after he is credited with authoring 2000 
books, when before he not been a writer of consequence. 

The claim that Alexandria was an "apartheid" city which excluded Egyptian is
not true. The book I am reading ("Ptolemite Alexandria") states that the
population of Alexandria constituted of Greeks, Egyptian Greeks (?), Jews
and Egytpians and also mixed greek - egyptian.....! 

At this point however, I will to withhold my information until my argument
is finalised....



makala
From: pmmst8+@pitt.edu (Makala P Mweene)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: IPS:ZAMBIA: RASTAFARIANS JOIN ANTI-AIDS CAMPAIGNS
Date: 28 Jan 93 03:59:35 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

(Riel Smit) writes:

>> 
>> ''jah ridim'' is the movement of the universal black person
>Is this correct (the meaning of 'yah riddim')?  When I read the first paragraph  
>the first time I thought "jah riddim" was "your rhythm"
>Riel Smit                
>University of Cape Town 


Yep, its the actual spelling. "Jah riddim" means Jah's rythm. Jah is God as you
you know. Rastafarianism is the Afrocentric religion which which began in Jamai
ca and has spread among black people in the diaspora. Reggea ofcourse is the
language of the movement.. Some have called it music of consciousness or protes
t music...


makala