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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 07:39:42 EST
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
 <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
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*** Resending note of 01/04/93 21:29

>Publ. Co.) at $29.95.  The disk with it has Graphic Workshop, Desktop
>Paint, Desktop Paint256, and GrafCat.  The Desktop Paint programs are
>like Windows Paint program, I think.  The GrafCat is a program to
>print out all your .wpg graphics in little boxes twelve to a page,
>to "catalog" them.  The Graphic Workshop is the one that transforms
>he different types of graphics from one form to the other, and
>ou can doctor them as you do it.
> don't have uudecode, or if I do I don't know it and havent used it.

OK, I wasn't paying attention, or maybe missed original posts, but are the
programs described above available via FTP?  If so, would someone be kind
enought to (re)post the details?  Thanks.
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From:         Eileen Margerum <EMARGERUM@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Oh yeah Glasgow
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        <Elvis sightings in Edinburgh?

I dont know about Edinburgh, but if you want to see Elvis in Glasgow gotr
to the Peoples Palace Museum and look in the reproduction TYPICAL
GLASGOW FLAT OF THE 1960S.  On the mantle is the traditional made-in-Taiwan
Elvis plaster bust.
        ED MARGERUM IN THE WITCH CITY
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:11:32 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@CS.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Get Well Cards
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> Do you think it would be helpful if we sent Get Well Cards to RA?

Send them fast -- but not by e-mail.  Ra has taken a turn for the worse.
Although the problems are, I hope, neither life-threatening nor likely to
lead to permanent loss of limb, the word I got around noon today is that
the surgery has involved unexpected complications and is taking much longer
than planned.  No time prognosis was given.

> I am feeling very disenfranchised here.  Because of a certain amount

I have to admit that I feel pretty weird also.  Although the machine I'm
using is wonderful and is very similar to Ra in its set-up, it doesn't
feel like home.  And WORDS-L is the only list I set to come to this address.
Since I didn't change the list headers to send error messages here, I fear
that when Ra returns to health I'm gonna be flooded with thousands (I'm
speaking literally there) of messages involving bounced mail.

> of *comment* on the amount of mail I had been getting, I have been
> NOMAIL for several weeks; and have been FTPing the archives once or
> twice a day to keep up.  With <foreign host not responding> and/or
> <User Anonymous unknown>, I am now *wordless* (never speechless).

Does your system get the bit hierarchy of usenet?  If so, you can read
bit.listserv.words-l.  I can't even get to usenet now since this machine
gets its usenet feed from Ra.  I did hop up to UNC last night to read
a little bit of usenet, but that's not as much fun as reading it here.

> Can't Bernard do anything?

I'm scared to let Bernard go anywhere near Frank today.  Frank didn't
look in the best of moods when I saw him at lunch.  I keep thinking about
that sword in his office.

>  Would cards help?  Incantations?

Possibly cards.  Definitely incantations.

> Where is
> Frank?

In a cloud of gloom.  Or at least that's how he looked a few hours ago.
Even I, one of the few people on campus not afraid of Frank, was scared
to tarry very long in his presence.

> P.S.  Does anyone have any suggestion as to what I might tell my boss
>       about all the mail I am getting today - (I can't stand being
>       wordless)

Oh good -- you're getting it as mail right now?  I was about to cc this
to you.  Tell your boss that you expect a bonus for dealing with all this
mail today.

  -- Natalie (maynor@CS.msstate.edu)
     borrowing Bernard's account until Ra is up again
     (and getting tired of it)
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:15:00 EST
From:         AYC3@NCH08A.EM.CDC.GOV
Subject:      Guff and The Seventh Sign
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My apologies if someone has already proffered this "insight" into the
definition of GUFF.

I saw this sort of spooky movie a long time ago called The Seventh Sign.
(It's one of my personal favorites, but I'm not proud of this fact, as it's
rather a cheesy movie.)  It starred Demi Moore as a pregnant woman haunted by
nightmares about the fate of her baby and by the bizarro man who rented their
spare rooms (who turns out to be just the Messenger of Impending Apocalyse
and not Satan as she feared).  There was a lot of Christian/Catholic
mythology in there which I couldn't do justice in relating, but the word GUFF
did come up as the "reservoir" of souls for the soon-to-be-born.  When we
die, supposedly our souls return to the Guff to await "reassignment."  (As a
relatively ignorant Hindu, I got a kick of what appeared to be convergence of
religious theories.)  Apparently numerous signs (6 of them, actually) signal
that the 7th sign (of the Apocalypse?) is imminent; these preliminary signs
were things like fish all washing ashore dead because the seas dried up,
rivers turning red, giganto hailstones falling, and icestorms occurring in
the desert.  The 7th sign was that an Innocent would die for telling the
truth; this was accomplished by killing off a Downs Syndrome youth (who was
in jail for killing his parents because they were brother & sister and
therefore sinners).  Upon the 7th sign, there would be no more souls in the
Guff, and this meant that the baby (Demi's) could not live.  Demi, who
regained her religious faith somewhere in the movie, ended up martyring
herself to replenish the Guff so that her baby could live.

--Anjani (embarrassed to be almost tearing up again at the mere recollection
          of these moving scenes)
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From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>
Subject: Re: Three-key Sequence Nonsense
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              5 Jan 1993 07:26:44 CST from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

On Tue, 5 Jan 1993 07:26:44 CST Natalie Maynor said:
>
>What kind of keyboard has PF keys?  I've never seen one.  I have, OTOH,
>seen people using F keys while referring to PF keys.  I find this interesting.
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

We have some IBM 3278 terminals that have PF keys.  To those of us who use
IBM products, whether they're labeled 'PF' or 'F', they're the same thing.

One other strange thing has happened since the disruption of mail yesterday:
Before, whenever I received mail from a list, the onscreen message told me
only what list the mail came from; now, it tells me that and the actual
person the mail is from.

Evelyn
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Digger?
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Who says Usenet is a waste of time?  I don't just learn a new
racial slur - I get to learn its etymology, too!

> Newsgroups: soc.motss
> From: cherokee@cscns.com (Agv'nige Wohali)
> Subject: Re: Do hard times cause hate?
>
> I'd tend to say yes, hard times DO lead to hate.  Just a couple of weeks
> ago, I was driving down Woodmen Road in Colorado Springs, minding my own
> business, when two scummy-looking men in a gigantic pickup truck rolled
> down their window and hollered, "Hey, ya fuckin' digger!  Go back to the
> reservation!"  They laughed and drove off like the maniacs they were.
>
> To those of you unfamiliar with this term, "digger" is a derisive word for
> Native American, dating back from the 1800's when Shoshoni tribes living
> around here used sticks to dig up tubers for food.  The connotation is
> very negative.

--karsten
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:33:35 GMT
From:         Graham Toal
              <gtoal%rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk%kate.ibmpcug.co.uk@KATE.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Klein's Canis
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        > Made me wonder if Bernard kisses that way.

        Bernard and I don't kiss and tell.  You'll just have to keep wondering.
           --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

*You* may not kiss and tell.  Bernard, however, has been boasting on
alt.sex.bestiality practically every day for the last 3 years how he's
been shagging the arse off this beautiful blonde chick.  It doesn't
take a genius to put two and two together...

G
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Mka's Sport/Leisure Question
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>>"How many players are there on a soccer team?"
>>
>
>11 (eleven)

Right again!

>>You can move 1 space, if you answer correctly, but since you already have
>>answered questions on Geography and Art/Literature, you must move but you lose
>>your turn and play passes to the next in line - which is Agnes or me. You need
>>to let me know if you want to move towards the centre or away from it. You get
>>another roll of the dice and another chance to land on History or
 Entertainment
>>on the next round.
>
>These are the damndest rules I ever heard.  Lose a turn?  Since when?  Hey, I'm
>used to winning this game in one turn.  This sucks.  My game says you move
>around the board at will, depending on the roll, and answer whatever question
>you happen to land on.  None of this one of each and you have to land exactly
>on the one you *haven't* answered.

I did state this rule previously and this is the way I have always played it,
but, since I also stated that I have lost my rule sheet, I did call for
objections to playing it this way and since none were forthcoming at that time
...... that is the way this game will continue to be played..... like it or
lump it!

>Toward from the center, please.

Best move! You are now well placed to get either of the remaining categories
at the next turn.

Carolyn
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:42:15 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (74)
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>      YOKNAPATAWPHA
> Trivia question:  What was the county seat?

Jefferson.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:05:00 PST
From:         Emily Horning <IZZYOL9@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>
Subject: Re: uh-huh
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> >That "wacko place in Malibu" is interviewing me for a job tomorrow!
> >>
> >> Tony H.
> What will you do there ?  Will your office be in the Roman style ?
> View of the pool ?  *Swim* in the pool !?

Well, if I get the position, I'll be working with their medieval manuscripts
(the only part of their library that's housed in the Malibu villa) - cata-
loguing, conservation, and putting on exhibits, among other things. The office
is just that - an office: no columns, steam baths or mosaics :(.

Maybe I can dangle my feet in the pool when no one's looking!

> Good luck!

Thank you! I thought the interview went well, except I don't have any exper-
ience putting together exhibits (something they really wanted). I'd *really*
like to get the job (even if the pay isn't great), just to get the proverbial
foot in the door. Btw, the Getty is notoriously cheap on salaries, even
though their endowment is something like 3 billion bucks. Sheesh.

> Tony H.

Emily
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
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>Do we have any words-lers in Philly? Neal maybe? i forget.
>marty? one of those bearded fellas i think. Anyway, i'm going
>to be out at the end of the month for the weekend.

        Philly/Pittsburgh -- hey, they're in the same state so they *must* be
        close together...spoken like a true Row Dielander.  Marty commutes
        between Bowling Green OH and Louisville.

        Alec is the (formerly?) bearded Philadelphian -- he just sent me a
        collection of Sunday comics from several weeks' worth of Inquirers, to
        prepare me for the impending return of an actual newspaper to this
        town.  Rashmi also lives there, but she didn't have a beard last time I
        saw her.

neal
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jan 1993 14:12:28 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: We who are about to die . . .
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From: LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU

> Hush Michael... you can't die here... all that can happen to you is that you
> will be enveloped by the flames of love and transcend to the words-l plane
> ....
> Carolyn

On the other hand, there's always Ronald McDonald House. :)
Pm
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 11:13:30 EST
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Boston
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>Judith,
>  This sounds like the recipe my mother uses to make her salmon patties;
>she doesn't use onions, but she does use milk and flour with the eggs and
>salmon.
>
>Evelyn

Nu, so why not? How could it hurt?

love, judith
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:33:44 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject: Re: {Operative Human Biological Interchange
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From: Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

>
> Yes.  But the verb is still transitive.

Then, of course, there is the passive, as in

_____________ is fucked.

Fill in your favorite has-been.
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In a previous article, rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis) says:

>
>Athene Magazine on quartz.rutgers.edu (but if they're interested in
>online zines, my site is a lot better on ftp.eff.org.)
>
I used to get that thing!  I also used to get Dargonzine, but I'll be darned
if I can remember from where.  That was a shared-universe ongoing whoseit,
along the lines of the Myth books.
>
>There's a poetry server at U.C. Berkeley that includes the usual
>suspects as well as Shakespeare.  It only gives the WAIS key of
>
There used to be one called Bialik@brandeis.bitnet - it wasn't telnettable,
but it did work pretty fast.  If it's still alive, that is.  There was a
pretty good selection of stuff, and the server will send you an index if
you ask for it.  

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Date: 5 Jan 1993 22:07:04 GMT
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In a previous article, Fizzy the Fribble () says:

>> On Mon, 4 Jan 1993, Fizzy the Fribble wrote:
>>
>> > Adrian
>> >
>> Yet another: why the e-oops, Mr. Fribble?
>>
>Ok - so you all know my first name....
>
>        *starts to count the number of Adrians in England*
>
Can't be too hard.  How many Adrians have accounts on rachel?  And how
many of those can stand Graham?:-)  I'd say the resulting set of names
would be pretty small....
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
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> Yes.  Or might she be interested in a dual croning?  The obvious time would
> be midnight March 19.  That's the half-way point between March 16 and 23.
> How many WORDS-Lers will come to Mississippi for a big croning event in
> March?
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

If that falls within our spring break, which I think it does, I might take
you up on it.  Maybe Susan would come, too.
ndh
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From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Baseball
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              12 Jan 1993 13:00:34 EST from <DTHORNTN@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

On Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:00:34 EST Don Thornton said:
>Think of the feeling of superiority the pitcher of the easy pitch would
>have if the batter misses or flys out.

It also shows the contempt the pitcher has for the batter, giving him
such an easy pitch to hit.
>
>Don
>              _

Evelyn
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>Ah, the famous Natalie tin ear again.  You wouldn't get a linking r between
>idea and why.

I think that the r in warsh is of a different character. My guess is that
an r will intrude between vowels which might otherwise make an "unenglish"
diphthong ("substitute alpher in equation one"). Perhaps the same people
pronounce, say, "baa-ing" or "sawing" with a faint r.

tushar
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cronings: (was: News from a newly non-computer...)
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> But after she's done one in Mississippi she'll know just how to do the one
> at the Salmonbake.  :-)

Exactly.  I'm counting on the Mississippi croning now.  When running off
syllabi yesterday, I started to change a test date for my HOTEL class from
March 19, knowing that that will not be a good weekend for paper-grading.
Because that was really the best date for their test on Middle English, I
decided to go on and leave it but to tell them that I would not be able to
return the papers the following Monday since that weekend was going to be
dedicated to A Once-In-A-Lifetime Event.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
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>>Running out of words is not as devastating as running out of ideas.... I'm
>>sure there must be a limit on them.
>
>   What ideas are these? I wasn't aware that we need or use ideas.

For some people they're not, but I am of the creative ilk and for me they are
essential to my enjoyment and quality of life.

Carolyn
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From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nuclear
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Posted on 8 Jan 1993 at 21:09:01 by Bayla Singer

>The "explanation" of the common mispronunciation of nuclear (nucular)is
>due to the lack of a 'kl' sound in English words is unclear to me: or
>should that be 'unculear'?  I would be more interested in knowing if
>other English words have the ee-ahr combination: I think -that's-
>the sticking point.

It can't be a problem making the sounds - I doubt that any of the
nucularists would have trouble saying the name of a wonderful
new floor polish that lets the true beauty of your floors shine
through: New Clear Whizzo.

Tony H.
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 20:56:20 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Word search
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From: BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
> >>of course, for longing for past time than past place). Any nominees?

How about a self-pitying simp?
Also cynical retrospectivist?
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The burning fiery furnace
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On Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:31:57 +0100 <torkel@SICS.SE> said:
>       >The place probably also has central air-conditioning.
>  In a small yellow-brick house in a working-class neighborhood in Montana?

  exactly....a place like that might have a window-mounted airconditioner...
but not likely central air....or a cellar....its most likely built
on a concrete slab...

   cyclops
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Date: 5 Jan 1993 22:11:31 GMT
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In a previous article, jboor@FLARE.CS.UMB.EDU (Joan Boorstein) says:

>Both Susan and Graham have mentioned the 'Xtians' -- some sort of religious
>group.  More info please.
>
It's shorthand for Christian, pretty old, actually.  Graham uses it to
avoid typing "Christ" as anything but invective.:-)  I don't know why
Susan used it - probably just to save keystrokes.....  

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