From: afry@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Alan R. Fry)
Subject: Re: MAC WIZARDS UNITE!!!
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 15:12:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.002935.27341@rchland.ibm.com> you write:
>
>MAC HARDWARE WIZARDS...THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO SHOW YOUR
>COMPLETE MASTERY OF THE MACINTOSH SE!
>
>I want to upgrade my faithful Mac SE.  It is old.old.old
>and I want to run system 7.1 on it.  It is the original
>configuration with double 800K floppies, no hard disk, 
>and 1 Meg memory.  
>
>1.  I have no hard-drive.  Should I get an internal or
>an external?  How hard is it to install an internal?

Go external.  That way you still get 2 floppies, and if you upgrade from the
SE, you just unplug the external HD and plug it in to your new machine.  I
would say don't get anything less than 200MB.

>2.  I need RAM.  Can I use 1X9's or do I need 1X8's?  Are
>there any tricks I need to know to install the SIMMS?

You need 1 meg 1x8's.  You can only go up to 4 meg on the motherboard of the
SE.  There is a resistor you will have to cut (or a jumper you will have to
move) to go to 4 meg.  You should get detailed instructions with your chip
order from where ever you buy them.

>3.  I want to accelerate this machine with a 68020 or 030.
>What boards are the best and cheapest?

I think the best are the Daystar Powercache family of accelerators.  One of
the big advantages is that if you decide to upgrade from your SE, you just
buy a different adapter card for your Powercache, and you can use it in your
new machine.  They run from about $500 to $1300 depending on the speed and
FPU.  There are cheaper accelerators for the SE; I've seen 25MHz for about
$300 (look in the back of MacWorld/MacUser).

>4.  I would like to add a FDHD.  Is this possible without
>changing the motherboard?  What do I have to do to change
>it?

You have to get a motherboard upgrade if you go internal.  I think there are
external FDHD's that don't require an upgrade.  You'd have to look into it.

>5.  How much does System 7.1 cost?  Can I install it with
>an 800K floppy?

I think just the disks are $35 direct from Apple.  Disks + manuals is $79
through MacConnection, etc.  You would have to ask about 800k floppies.

>6. What other options can I add to make this machine HOT?

You could get an external portrait monitor.  You would be surprised what the
extra screen space will do for you.

You might also consider upgrading to an SE/30 motherboard.  You get color
capability (with a card), 8 simm slots, stereo sound, FDHD ability, virtual
memory ability, and a considerably faster machine.  Then add a video card
and 13" (at least) color monitor.

>reply to comp.sys.mac.hardware as I cannot recieve E-mail.
>
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Cheers,

Alan
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