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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:15:41 -0500
From:         "Cube's fly's undone." <LESSER@FAXON.COM>
Subject:      Chco and The Man.

  >Could be you're The Man, searching for an excuse to insert
  >your heavy boot into the delicate space just below the nape
  >of our virtual neck.  It's also possible that YOU AREN'T
  >AT ALL WHO YOU SAY YOU ARE

  Naw, he can't be The Man, silly. The Man NEVER asks -- 'cuz he don't need to.
  Further, even if Bruce IS who he says he is, what are the chances he actually
  knows it? Does he even say he knows who he says he is? Could he ever REALLY
  know? He probably doesn't even care...

  *urrrrrrp!*

  Damn good coffee I got here.

  S.
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:08:59 EST
From:         CYNOVY@EMUVM1.BITNET

Yeah, I was always partial to that one myself.  However, let us not
overlook the tremendous one-leg-up balancing act performed in "Away
with the end of the beginning, on with the beginning of the end", the
sentimental holiday favorite "Anyone recall who wrote 'My Life As A
Clam'?", and, particularly relevant to the goings down on SBRHYM-L,
"I have not neither put in any appearance".

We'll just see about that, Daniel.

But, to the interesting part of Bruce's message, the part LIBALP so
graciously overlooked: the tripe on this net apparently has been flung
far and wide!  We're a travelling road show!  Only problem, Brucie
--ya don't minds if I calls ya 'Brucie' do ya-- is the copywrong laws
--ya get it? copy-'wrong'? hy-uk!-- in force that says you'll be roto-
rootered if we catch ya in the act, ya gots it, chum?

I mean, really, spreading tripe and not letting us see any of the oily
substance that gathers on the tablecloth.  How tacky.

mg
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:26:22 EST
From:         General Mills <LIBALP@EMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      The irony I spoke of was your own

Where is Foss, you sleazy bastard?  You din't answer that question
didja, my disingenuous li'l pal?  What good is a Foss-worshipper if
he can't produce a Foss, hmm?  What I'm wondering is, who do you think
made Cuthbert paranoid?  Who do you think made us all paranoid?  Who do
you think brought irony out of the Dark Ages and into the Middle Eastern
Doctor's office (or whatever)?

Creep. Stop messin' around, goddammit.

gm(sem)
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Organization: Emory University - Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.fnord-l
Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:51:54 EST
From:         LIBWCA@EMUVM1.BITNET

On Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:02:43 -0500 Undetermined origin c/o Postmaster said:
>Have the postings to this list been archived anywhere
>accessible via ftp or mail?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Bruce Jones
>
> 
Why do you ask, Bruce?  May I call you Bruce?
Oh, good.  Then you won't mind answering a few questions?
You understand how your little query could generate a bit
of, shall we say, trepidation- the idea of anyone actually
wanting to peruse an archive filled entirely with toxic
bile and splenetic spillage is, after all quite improbable.
Could be you're The Man, searching for an excuse to insert
your heavy boot into the delicate space just below the nape
of our virtual neck.  It's also possible that YOU AREN'T
AT ALL WHO YOU SAY YOU ARE.  After all, how much do we know
about you?  Do you customarily stride boldly up to total
strangers, look them in the eye, and say, perhaps with a
bit of a charming brogue "Hello, I'm Bruce.  My I peer
into your viscera?"
I didn't think so.
Cuthbert
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:17:45 EST
From:         General Mills <LIBALP@EMUVM1.BITNET>

>Geez - the tripe on this mailing list has already been spread across
>the ether.  If "The Man" was interested in breaking your electronic
>neck, he'd have already done so.
>
>I'm just interested in retrieving a few postings made by Dan Foss,
>whose writing I enjoy but joined the list too late to have seen.
>
>And you really should see someone about your paranoia before it gets
>completely out of hand.
>
>bj

Now let me get this straight:
You're a Foss fan AND you think Cuthbert's too paranoid?

Now let me get this straight:
You're a Foss fan AND you have no sense of irony?

gm

I recommend "So there will be no News Ways of Thinking"
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:37:00 CST
From:         Scotto <MOORE7004@ISCSVAX.UNI.EDU>

>  Not me. I love the K-mart commercials. Now I realize what I have been
>missing shopping elsewhere: Ward and June; clever Beaver; and bargains,
>bargains, bargains galore.

Here's something else you've been missing, Joe Demon: human dignity.  And you
won't find THAT at K-Mart, buster.  This "Demon" thing is doing none of us any
favors, so why not accept your saucy nature and admit that it's the Goolagong
collection that keeps you heading back to the corner store?

>Why, if I wasn't an atheist, and think that
>Christmas was a crock 'o crap, I'd run right down to K-mart and shop
>until my brains oozed out of my ears.

Darn the luck.
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:09:22 EST
From:         Barry Managua-Nicaraguaua <LIBEMU@EMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      TESTIMONIAL

During the many years I have know Mr. LIBWCA, a trusted colleague
and valued friend, he has treated me with the utmost respect and
professional courtesy, only occassionally stealing large amounts
from the accounts under out joint control, and always carefully
apologizing for the ensuing frame-up.  He engages in sexual depravity
only under the most carefully controlled circumstances; many of the
maintanence workers have commented on his consideration in helping
to dispose of the bodies afterwards.  Further, he has maintained
stringent rules requiring the testing of all controlled substances
on volunteer subjects- often himself- before administering them
to political prisoners or children under the age of twelve.
Regardless of the personality he happens to be manifesting at any
given moment, Mr. LIBWCA is a swell fellow and a mean mamajama.
BM-N
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 09:26:48 -0800
From:         Scott Delancey <DELANCEY@OREGON.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Subject here?

On Thu, 10 Dec 1992 04:16:47 GMT <asspk@ACAD2.ALASKA.EDU> said:
>  Well, I hope this post doesn't annoying anyone to much, but I'm curious as to
>what FNORD listserver is all about? I hear FNORD (my proccess name, as a matter
>of fact) I think of Steve Jackson Games "Illuminati"
>  Any correspondance?
>
>                                                           ASspk

You HEAR fnord?  But how do you react when you SEE fnords?  But you
don't, do you?  Because they aren't there, right?  Remember -- there
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 11:57:30 EST
From:         Someone Like It <LIBALP@EMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Phirst Amendment

>next day he was found dead, his 22-caliber rifle next to him.  No note,
>message, no goodbyes to anyone.  Very untypical of him.  Officially a
>suicide.

Okay, I'll bite: How does he usually commit suicide?

SLI
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 02:03:38 -0500
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From:         Undetermined origin c/o Postmaster <POSTMASTER@UBVM.BITNET>

No, Foss ain't dead, he's just given up on FNORD, for the
same reason I'm about to bail - too few "new ideas" and too
much sludge, which I can get for free on alt.bizzare when
I'm in the mood.

I bid you all a fond farewell ...

bj

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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:55:06 -0500
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From:         JCDURANN@ENAPSTG1.BITNET
Subject:      SNA3270P sessions disrupted

Hello out there !

We are running RSCS Version 3 Release 1.03 under VM/SP Release 5 PUT 9002

When we switch from VTAM 3.1.1 to VTAM 3.3.0 an extraneous behaviour begins
to affect all our SNA (lutype 3 and 1) printers with the following indication
in RSCS's console :

 DMTVXT074I LINK linkid LUNAME luname BEING TERMINATED - NSEXIT ENTERED WITH
            CLEANUP RU
 DMTSPT153I LINK linkid SESSION TERMINATED
 DMTMAN002I LINK linkid DEACTIVATED

 This error occurs at any time, no mothers if the printer is printing or not.

 This happens only with the local SNA printers, no with the NCP controlled
 ones.

 In VTAM's console nothing is registered, but if we issue D NET,ID=luname,E
 all we can see is that the lu is in NO SESSION.

 When STARTing  the printer it function properly again until the above accurs
 again.

 Following is the definition of the APPL statement to define RSCS to VTAM :

S12RSCS  APPL  AUTH=(ACQ),PARSESS=NO,AUTHEXIT=YES,ACBNAME=RSCS,        *
               MODETAB=RSCSTAB,DLOGMOD=RSCSNJE0,VPACING=3

Does somebody have experienced this before ? How was it solved ?

Thank a lot !

Juan Carlos Duran
Empresa Nacional del Petroleo
Santiago - Chile
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:45:10 EST
From:         "Roger D. Parish" <U9505RP@DOEMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Printers Terminating RSCS Sessions

Juan Carlos asked why his printers keep dropping our of session with RSCS;
only the local ones, not the remotes.

My guess is that the locals are NON-SNA.  When a non-SNA printer finishes
printing, it sends an unsolicited Device-end status message.  VTAM 3.2,
unless told otherwise, will automatically end any session a device is in
when it detects this DE.  The key is to tell VTAM this is a printer via
the FEATUR2=PRINTR on the definition for the device.  Check your Installation
and Configuration manual (page 300 for 3.2).

This change between 3.1 and 3.2 caught me by surprise.
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:58:13 -0400
From:         "Barry L. Newton" <NEWTON@NBSENH.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Data Naming Standards

Here is a citation for a publication you may find useful:


Guide on Data Entity Naming Conventions

by Judith Newton
NBS (NIST) Special Publication 500-149
SN 003-003-02818
October 1987

This guide presents practical advice on designing naming
conventions to help maximize consistency of information resources
across an organization.  Standardized names can represent entity
information content and relationship to the logical structure of
data.  The Information Resource Dictionary System (IRDS), an ANSI
and Federal Information Processing Standard, provides a framework
for the development of names for data entities.

Complimentary copies are available on a single-copy basis from
the author (newton@ecf.ncsl.nist.gov).  Multiple copies may be ordered
from NTIS at the address below:

National Technical Information Service
U. S. Department of Commerce
Attention Sales Department
5285 Port Royal Road
Springfield, VA  22161
  Telephone 703/487-4650


*-------------------------------------------------------------------------*
|  Barry L. D. Newton                   National Institute of Standards   |
|                                       and Technology                    |
|  Newton@enh.nist.gov                  Administration Bldg, Rm. A738     |
|  Newton@nbsenh                        Gaithersburg, MD  20899           |
|  301/975-4070                                                           |
|     Standard(s) Disclaimer:  All comments & opinions are mine alone.    |
*-------------------------------------------------------------------------*
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:36:00 EST
From:         Rod Feak <FEAK@BCVMCMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Problem with Listserv with new JES2 system

------------------------------TEXT-OF-YOUR-MAIL--------------------------------

>  Lou Menendez said:
>    We recently upgraded our MVS operating system from MVS/ESA 3.1 to 4.2.
> This MVS system is the adjacent node (CFR) to CFRVM,  which runs LISTSERV. As
A
> result we have lost communications with LISTSERV machines via the TELL command
> (MAIL method works). It appears that the new JES2 system changes the structure
> of the message. when I send a message to a node which does not pass thru our
> JES

Yes, we had the same problem, PTF OY39586 begins to address the problem,
and it has PE's against it. If you come a little farther in
maintanence level, and resolve the PE's, the problem goes away. I think
we are at 9201 plus some ptf's.

Rod Feak
Boston College
Feak@bcvmcms
Feak@bcvmcms.bc.edu
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:27:59 EST
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From:         Lou Menendez CFRDC Systems Programming <LOU@CFRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Problem with Listserv with new JES2 system

   We recently upgraded our MVS operating system from MVS/ESA 3.1 to 4.2.
This MVS system is the adjacent node (CFR) to CFRVM,  which runs LISTSERV. As A
result we have lost communications with LISTSERV machines via the TELL command
(MAIL method works). It appears that the new JES2 system changes the structure
of the message. when I send a message to a node which does not pass thru our
JES
system  THE SYNTAX IS:

 FROM BROWNVM(XXX): MESSAGE               /* FROM BROWNVM TO NERVM */

  When I send a message to our VM system (PASSING THRU CFR) THE SYNTAX IS

 FROM BROWNVM:           XXX MESSAGE      /* FROM BROWNVM TO CFRVM */

 NOTE: THERE ARE 11 SPACES BETWEEN THE COLON AND THE USERID XXX.

I've searched  MVS RETAIN without success, since JES2 4.2 has been around for a
while,  has anyone run into this problem? or am I heading in the wrong
direction
with this?
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:38:22 -0600
From:         BAUMGARL@ZENO.MSCD.EDU
Subject:      Jes2 Mods
Comments: To: jes2-l@vtvm2.cc.vt.edu

     Our shop is currently running MVS/SP 1.3.5 with JES2
1.3.6.  We will soon be converting to MVS/SP 4.2.2 (ESA
4.2.2) and JES2 4.2.  We have put on the Melon Bank
modifications to the SP1 version of JES2, and they will need
to be retrofit to the new version of JES2.  They originally
came on the SHARE tape.  Does anyone know if these are
available for this newest version of JES2?
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:32:21 MET
Reply-To:     damjan.osredkar@uni-lj.SI
From:         damjan.osredkar@UNI-LJ.SI

test
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Date:         Sun, 20 Dec 1992 08:24:00 O
From:         Helen Lissar <S84603@BARILAN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Internet Survey Update

pls send original survey
thanks
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 08:48:00 EST
From:         "Michael A. Short" <$MAS@CLVM.CLARKSON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: program product in HESC

> Dear Netter,
>
>     Anybody know which program product in HESC suitable for
> establishing small application systems? I have to program in VM
> environment to establish a menu-driven simple data retrieval
> applcation program. Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks. --Liu Zi-Di

I don't have the program numbers, but you should look at Display
Management System (DMS) or ISPF with or without PDF.

As an alternative look at the RDM package from UVVM.
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 08:47:11 EST
From:         Liu Zi-Di <SURU@TWNMOE10.BITNET>
Subject:      program product in HESC

Dear Netter,

    Anybody know which program product in HESC suitable for
establishing small application systems? I have to program in VM
environment to establish a menu-driven simple data retrieval
applcation program. Any suggestions?

Thanks. --Liu Zi-Di
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:52:00 PST
From:         "Virginia Hetrick, in sunny Calif" <IARGRAF@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      SQL Access Software

Another item for Fred to add to the requests for next year ....

IBM has finally announced the MDI software for cross-system SQL
access between S/390s and PCs running DOS or Windows.

5758-MW3 for the Access Server for DB2-TSO
5758-MW? for the Access Server for SQL-VM (I'd wager the ? should
         be replaced with a 4, but don't know for sure)

The other pieces (in which many of users have a strong interest) are:

5758-MW1 for the DOS piece
5758-MW2 for the Windows piece.

Since I'm not the designated HESC wonk, I don't know whether there's
an appropriate place for DOS/Windows pieces.

Thanks for putting them on the list for consideration.

virginia
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:22:11 +0200
From:         antti juhani ylikoski <ylikoski@NIKSULA.HUT.FI>
Subject:      Unsubscribing

Dear ADVISE-L distributor,

please sign me off the ADVISE LIST, in other words remove me from the
list of recipients of the ADVISE LIST.  I have not succeeded in
unsubscribing though I have tried to unsubecribe many, many times.

---- thanks, antti j ylikoski
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:07:52 CST
Reply-To:     thomasg@staff.tc.umn.edu
From:         ThomasG@STAFF.TC.UMN.EDU
Subject:      RE: Help with novell
Comments: To: ADVISE-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

Novell should only be broadcasting to people who are logged in on the
server that is sending the message.  CASTOFF ALL should stop all messages
from all servers.

Let me know if that doesn't work



In Message Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:46:53 EDT,
  ACPROG%SETONVM.BITNET@VM1.NoDak.EDU writes:

>Although I posted this question to various Novell lists, I have not
>received a response...so, I hope someone on ADVISE can give me a lead.
>We have more than one file server on our network;
>our workstations receive messages from each one.  Is there a way to
>globally set messages off for all servers (i.e. CAST OFF GLOBAL)??
>Thank you in advance!
>Nancy Mustachio
>Project Leader/Academic Computing
>Seton Hall University


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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:46:53 EDT
From:         ACPROG@SETONVM.BITNET
Subject:      Help with novell
              7 Dec 1992 09:53:08 MDT from <LAFOND@GOLLUM.ISU.EDU>

Although I posted this question to various Novell lists, I have not
received a response...so, I hope someone on ADVISE can give me a lead.
We have more than one file server on our network;
our workstations receive messages from each one.  Is there a way to
globally set messages off for all servers (i.e. CAST OFF GLOBAL)??
Thank you in advance!
Nancy Mustachio
Project Leader/Academic Computing
Seton Hall University
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Date:         Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:29:55 -0500
From:         "MARK S. BARNETT" <MBARNETT@TATTOO.CS.WIDENER.EDU>
Subject:      hardcards
Comments: To: advise-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu

I am in the process of looking at Hardcards.
Can anyone suggest a paticular brand?  I was considering a Plus Development
Hardcard.
Also is there any problems that I should know of concerning Hardcards?
Does anybody know of a good place to buy from?  I am looking for a place
that has good prices, reputation, warranty, and guarrantee.

Thank You.
Mark S. Barnett
mbarnett@tattoo.cs.widener.edu
mbarnett@heartland.bradley.edu
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 92 08:46:00 PST
From:         THOMPSON@UCRVMS.BITNET
Subject:      Liam's leaving
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Liam,
  Well, at least you get to read THE BROONS in color every Sunday.  Thinks
could be worse.

Jim Thompson
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 92 08:58:00 PST
From:         THOMPSON@UCRVMS.BITNET
Subject:      Memphis
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

You might want to take cash; last time I ate in Memphis the restaurant
had never heard of traveler's checks, though when I explained what they
were they took one, giving me front and back xeroxes of it as a
receipt.

Jim
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:41:45 -0500
From:         Barry Bouwsma <ag786@YFN.YSU.EDU>
Subject:      What I said earlier about USENET...
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    I had asked in a message entitled
Subject:      USENET rec.travel and TRAVEL-L
----------
>
>What is REC.TRAVEL and can it be accessed via BITNET or TELENET?

    Just out of curiosity, fellow TRAVEL-L subscribers, ...
Would somebody please tell me if my response
with description of rec.travel did or did not get posted?
----------
    Well, nobody wrote to tell me that they had been mailed my response, so
I guess I shall repeat it here for the benefit of the listserv subscribers,
and with apologies to Usenet bit.listserv.travel-l readers who must suffer
through it yet again.  (Then again, no TRAVEL-L subscriber wrote to say they
had NOT been mailed this, so maybe nobody wanted to admit it...)


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