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From: jfish@bcccix.UUCP (John Fish)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CQ Warminster A.R.C.
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:28:11 GMT
Distribution: pa, nj
Organization: Bucks County Community College, Newtown PA



Members:
I know from listening on the repeater that many of us are connected
to INTERNET.  So, I would like to compile a list of names, calls, and 
domain addresses similar to the "HAMS ON USENET" list for our club.
Just send a note to "wells!bcccix!jfish" and I will re-distribute 
my compiled list.

For Non-members:
   The Warminster Amateur Radio Club, located in Bucks County, PA is
an ARRL Special Services Club.  Membership is open to all, and inquiries
are welcome.

                                           Tks and 73's

                                             John KA3WDY
-- 
John T. Fish, New Hope, PA, USA (KA3WDY)  reply to wells!bcccix!jfish
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: wvogel@MtHolyoke.edu (keeper of the tone)
Subject: mars
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:37:34 GMT


MARS stands for military afilliated radio service
when i was in the air force i used it to make radio patch phone call
to the states ffrom military bases overseas (basically used for third
party traffic) if i understand the meaning in the regs book

3's de wayne
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: NASA SELECT
From: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 20:55:23 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Robert Smits

fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie) writes:

> In article <BzC74v.JAF@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jtg0707@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jui
> Tien) wrote:
> > Does anyone out there know what the NASA SELECT frquency is?
> > Is that frequency regional dependent?
> > Someone told me once it is suppose to be somewhere on 70cm?
> 
> Jui-
> 
> NASA Select is re-transmitted by Ham Radio operators in various cities, on
> whatever frequency is common in that region.  For example, at Merritt
> Island, Florida, near the Kennedy Space Center, it is rebroadcast on
> 146.940 MHz.
> 
> I'm not certain how the Hams get the audio feed for NASA Select, but it may
> come from one of the synchronous satelites' transponders.  It may also be
> available by phone line.
> 
> If you have your own satelite dish, you might get the information you need
> by contacting your local Cable TV company, or a local Network TV station.



NASA Select is carried on Satellite F2, transponder 13. You need a C-Band 
Satellite receiver to watch it, unless someone locally re-transmits it.


Robert Smits  VE7EMD Ladysmith B.C. 
Ph (604) 245-2553 e-mail: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca 
PACKET VE7EMD@VE7KIT.#VANC.BC.CAN.NA
From: bmehlman@trirex.COM (Ben Mehlman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Clegg FM27R 2 meter radio,  info needed!
Date: 15 Dec 92 03:18:30 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

Hello all.

I have a Clegg FM27 mobile 2M rig which I am trying to get on the  
air.  I bought it about 5 years ago (used, it is a very old model!),  
and it was working very well for a long time, although the frequency  
calibration was WAY off.

Well, I got it out of the closet and decided to see if I can get it  
aligned properly.  I found the appropriate trimmers and I now can get  
tuned to a repeater in only 1 minute instead of 5 :)

The problem I'm having now is that I get no transmit audio.  I'm  
afraid that I may have messed up one of the audio trimmers while I  
was trying to find the adjustments for the vco.

Now I'm afraid of adjusting anything for fear of knoocking the thing  
completely out of whack.

Needless to say, I have no manuals or schematics for the radio.

If anyone has had experience with this rig, or better yet, has a  
manual, tuning instructions, or even just a schematic or pc board  
layout for this guy I would very much be happy to hear from you!

I'd be glad to send you a sase + whatever it costs for copies to get  
my hands on the service manual.

On the same note, can anyone make any recommendations on an  
-inexpensive- frequency counter and/or modulation  monitor that  
covers up to 450 Mhz?  Also, if anyone has a decent used or new swr  
or bidirectional wattmeter that is good for VHF and/or UHF please  
drop me a line.  


Are there any decent electronic surplus or communications/amateur  
radio  stores in the Fairfield county CT, or Westchester county NY  
areas???

Thanks, Ben KB2ERP

PS: Before anyone starts another flame war re: the 'inherent  
cheapness of hams' due to my stressing -inexpensive-, let me say that  
I am spending a bundle on my electronics and computer habit already,  
what with computers, TNCs, radios, antenna parts, dummy loads, cable,  
connectors...  All I want is to find out IF there's a reasonable  
frequency counter that's also inexpensive.  I'm not DEMANDING one :)
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From: eckman@eos1.larc.nasa.gov (Richard Eckman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QSL practices F6FNU, FR5DX
Date: 16 Dec 1992 12:42:08 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: eos1.larc.nasa.gov

In article <1619@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM> tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton) writes:
>Third time I've tried..hope it works this time.  Any whoooo
>Would all you netters who have any experience (good or bad)
>getting QSLs from FR5DX or stations managed by F6FNU please
>forward to me.  Many of the local packet users and DX'ers
>have complained vehemently about F6FNU and FR5DX.  This is not
>a flame, just a survey.  As a baseline, we all need to remember
>that overseas postage to USA is very expensive and a *green
>stamp* probably does not cut it anymore.
>Thanks in advance for any info. 73, Tom WB4IUX
>ps:  I got my cards from FR5DX (80 - 10 meters), but I had to send
>5 green stamps .... and I got the card back promptly thru the buro!
>
  I've had experience getting cards from F6FNU and have had no difficulty
getting the QSLs for a greenstamp and self addressed envelope.  Regarding
the concept that a greenstamp just won't cover return postage anymore:
nothing could be further from the truth in France.  F6FNU uses a reduced
rate airmail (notice the corners of your envelopes cut to expose the
card?) that comes out to around 40 or 50 cents (US) by my last reckoning.
His nominal requirement of two greenstamps for a card is IMHO totally
out of line.
  Given that I just worked (and sent out a card) to FR5DX from last weekend's
contest, I'll be interested to see if he responds directly or not.  Again,
I'd be surprised if US$1.00 doesn't cover normal airmail return postage
from Reunion.

Rich Eckman  KO4MR
NASA Langley
eckman@dobson.larc.nasa.gov
From: ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard Rosenfeld)
Subject: Re: Morse code upgrading
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:50:42 GMT

In article <GRUND.92Dec16150618@calypso.som.cwru.edu> grund@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.edu (Victor Grund) writes:
>In article <15DEC199222335366@erich.triumf.ca> bennett@erich.triumf.ca (P.Bennett) writes:
>
>   At 5 WPM, you can copy by essentially "looking it up in a table",
>   even if the table is all in your head. This method won't work over
>   8 - 10 wpm, so you have to re-learn the code, with a new method, to
>   get over this speed.  Learning initially at the higher speed avoids
>   the need to re-learn as you speed up (although there may be another
>   transition at a higher speed).  The only problem with learning at a
>   high speed, is that it may be hard to copy 5 wpm!
>
>Here's a point I where I need clarification.  It is my understanding
>that you take the code tests in opposite order of the written exams.
>That is, you start at whatever speed you want (5,13,20 wpm) and work
>your way down until you pass or fail them all (expect what you may
>have passed at previous sessions).
>
>I'm currently a No-Code Tech, so lets say I go nuts over Christmas and
>get up to 13 wpm with the code and pass element 1b... Do I have to
>also demonstrate proficiency in element 1a to get my Tech+?
>
No.

It is [correctly] assumed that if you can do 20 wpm, you can do 13 wpm
and/or 5 wpm.

Scott NF3I

73, Good Dxing.

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: hammond_ks%ncsd.dnet@gte.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: INFO-HAMS SUBSCRIBE
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:22:44 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

subscribe
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: REQ - Info on intro.SW(AM/SSB) receiver
From: fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie)
Date: 16 Dec 92 12:54:57 EST
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Distribution: world
Organization: NASA/Kennedy Space Center, Florida

In article <18144@autodesk.COM>, laliths@Autodesk.COM (Lalith Subramanian)
wrote:
> what receivers would enable me to do the following -
>  - Limiting price of 150
>  - Pick up signals < 30 MHz
>  - AM and SSB i.e pick up both broadcast and HAM transmissions
>  - Be easy to tune, preferably digital tuning
>         Optional stuff would be
>  - Have higher frequency capability(VHF etc.) 
>  - programmability etc...
>  - possibility of later using it for HAM radio

Lalith-

Your list sounds good, but the limiting price makes it somewhat optimistic!
 While there may be a receiver that satisfies all your stated needs, it
would only be available second hand from some kind-hearted soul who wanted
to help you out.

If you would drop the idea of later use for Ham Radio, and VHF/UHF, you
will probably find a used receiver that would be quite adequate to get you
started.  An example would be the Radio Shack DX-440, which has now been
discontinued.  I think the sell-out price was around $150.  It was replaced
by the DX-390, which sells for over $200.

I don't think anyone will "flame" you for asking here.  Shortwave listening
is closely related to Ham Radio.  However, there is another news group
where you should get a little better response.  It is rec.radio.shortwave. 
I notice that it had a recent posting where someone wanted to sell a radio
similar to the DX-440.  The posting was made on 12/15/92, by richard chalk,
and was titled "***SANGEAN 803 FOR SALE**".

The Radio Shack DX-440 was manufactured by SANGEAN.  As far as one can
tell, the only difference between the DX-440 and the Sangean ATS-803, is a
tape recorder output jack on the ATS-803, which you can probably add
yourself.  Sangean also produced the same radio for other companies, which
is the case in richard chalk's posting.

The reason I wouldn't use a Shortwave receiver for Ham Radio, is that it is
more convenient to use a transceiver, where transmit and receive
frequencies are locked together.  If you had a little more money to spend,
and were fairly sure you would learn the code and get the Ham license, you
can find a used transceiver that has a general coverage receiver, with Code
(CW), SSB and AM capability.  An example is the old Kenwood TS-430S, with
the optional AM filter.  I think you can find one for around $500. 
Comparable models are available from Icom and Yaesu.

For general information about Shortwave, I recommend the book, "World Radio
Television Handbook" (WRTH).  It has frequencies and schedules for
broadcast stations around the world, as well as reviews of current
receivers.

73, Fred, K4DII

fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov
From: Peter.Rojsel@maxlab.lu.SE
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Info-Hams Digest V92 #1326
Date: 18 Dec 92 08:00:36 GMT
Organization: ucsd usenet gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

>Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu>
>Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>
>Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.

Is this list moderated? How do I send out a question to the net via this list??
Do I have to pay fees to som organisation to send anything to this list? 
Nothing I have ever sent has appeared (yet). Perhaps the delay is several 
weeks, from recieving until publication. I have tried, and tried, and tried, 
but I have never seen anything of my own here. Is this list just a bogus list 
made and sent out by someone for his own amusement?

SM7LEK
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: popovich@cs.columbia.edu (Steve Popovich)
Subject: Re: Morse code upgrading
Organization: Columbia University
	<GRUND.92Dec16150618@calypso.som.cwru.edu>
	<1992Dec16.215042.26327@wam.umd.edu>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:09:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.215042.26327@wam.umd.edu> ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard Rosenfeld) writes:

>In article <GRUND.92Dec16150618@calypso.som.cwru.edu> grund@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.edu (Victor Grund) writes:
...
>>I'm currently a No-Code Tech, so lets say I go nuts over Christmas and
>>get up to 13 wpm with the code and pass element 1b... Do I have to
>>also demonstrate proficiency in element 1a to get my Tech+?
...
>No.
>
>It is [correctly] assumed that if you can do 20 wpm, you can do 13 wpm
>and/or 5 wpm.

Right, and the reference for this in general is Section 97.501 of the
FCC rules.  I'm not sure whether or not there is another reference for
the Tech+, because I'm looking at a partial reprint of the rules in an
ARRL VE manual rather than at the full rulebook, but this section
lists the examination requirements for each class of license.  The
Novice class license, for example, requires:

	Elements 1A[minor typo] or 1(B) or 1(C), and 2.

In other words, a 5, 13 or 20 wpm code test, and the Novice class
written examination.  A Tech+, like a Novice, should require simply
that a code test of not less than 5 wpm (this phrasing is in Section
97.503 and provides yet another basis for allowing higher-speed code
tests to substitute for lower speeds) has been passed.
	-Steve, WB3I
From: jma@ebt-inc.UUCP (Jim Apple)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: looking for email based call sign servers
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:17:45 GMT
Organization: ucsd usenet gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu



	Are they any email based call sign servers ??

Thanks in advance




 Jim Apple   (WB1DOG)            EBT Inc.
 jma@ebt.com                     One Richmond Square
 uunet!ebt-inc!jma               Providence, RI 02906
                                 401-421-9550


Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: mgsail@prefect.cc.bellcore.com (goldstein,marvin)
Subject: Re: Phonetics
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:34:39 GMT


To all those needing help with call letter phonetics, I think you really
need a call that speaks for itself like mine: N 2 O W L :)

(If that doesn't work, then I'm Older-Wiser-& Lovable)

73
Marv Goldstein N2OWL
From: RON@NSULA.EDU (Ron Wright - NSU Computer Center)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Software Systems Consulting PC Slow Scan 5.0
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:44:20 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu


> I purchased the package about a month ago and so far I am happy.
> There is another piece of software called JVFAX5.0 that works with
> the same hardware. They describe a interface called a "compartor" and
> state it uses a 741 op amp. The SSC interface also has a 8 pin chip
> but the numbers are rub off. 
> Does anyone know if it also is a 741 op amp? I just started to draw
> a diagram of the SSC circuit.

> Has anyone compared the SSC to the VIEW PORT or PASACON systems?

>                                     Ken  

Yes, The SSC unit does use an uncompensated 741.  I did the same thing you
are doing--drew the schematic and pondered over what the chip was--Looked
like a 741, acted like a 741, and it was.  

As for the JVFAX unit I have been looking at it also and although it uses
the same pins on the rs232 I think it may be using these pins differently.
This is next weekends project so I'll let you know if your interested.

I haven't seen the pasokon or viewport actually receive pictures but have
seen the software both uses.  I can tell you the interfaces of the viewport
and Pasokon are in no way similar to the SSC unit.  The big advantage these
two have over software systems is the ability to utilize the 32,000 hicolor
graphics boards. The Pasokon also uses xtal control to keep the picture in
sync (like some of the Robots) so you don't have to worry about setting
configuration params to get your picture straight like you do on the SSC
and viewport systems.

I'm using the SSC unit for receive now and for the simplicity of the interface
it does a great job.  But, I do plan to upgrade to the Pasokon unit after the
first of the year.

Ron - KA5LUG

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: frequency inversion?
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 15:31:32 GMT

In article <9212111659.AA12355@ucsd.edu> jds@emclab.ATt.COM writes:
>Folks:
>
>Anyone know how "frequency inversion" encryption works?  i.e.
>
>- How do you encode the source?

You generate a SSB signal and convert it back to audio with a carrier
that is on the "wrong" side of the signal. IE listen to a LSB signal
with a USB receiver to hear the frequency inversion effect.

>- How do you decode the result?

Same way, you just run it through the processor box again and it
comes out right side up.

>- Can this be done in a relatively small space ( 1 or 2 in^2 pcb )
>  or is there more to the hardware/glue logic?

Yes this can be done on a small board, tuning and high power aren't
involved. 2X2 should be large enough unless you use a high quality
filter, which shouldn't be necessary, a four pole filter is adequate.

>- Is this a trivial encryption scheme, or are there differing "keys"
>  to encode/decode with?

Yes this is a trivial scheme. Anyone with a similar encoder/decoder
can decrypt your transmissions. It's obviously worthless on SSB since
anyone can just switch to the other sideband, but it is somewhat useful
on AM or FM since the outboard box is required to flip the speech back
over. More elaborate schemes can be applied that flip different parts
of the speech bandwidth upside down, but the expense quickly outpaces
the utility.

>And finally, can these functions be performed post-mic but pre-xmtr, 
>and subsequently post-recvr but pre-speaker?  That is, is the encryption
>done on the audio frequencies at both ends?

Yes, they are normally done outboard.

Gary KE4ZV
From: little@nuts2u.enet.dec.com (nuts2u::little)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: About transverters (was Weak signal VHF)
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:31:41 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Posted-Via: NEWS-NOTES gateway (a hack!)

tcmaint@pogo.wv.tek.com (TeleCom Maintenance) writes:

>think the 767 would be a good rig to upgrade too. Does anyone familiar
>with operating satelite and VHF/UHF SSB work have any knowledge of these
>rigs?

My understanding of the 767 is that although you can operate split and
perhaps even split across bands which is needed for the satellites, it does
not allow full duplex operation, i.e. you can't listen on one band while
transmitting on another.  Full duplex is almost essential for operating the
satellites as you need to be able to find your down link.  It's possible to
do it with a rig that has full breakin, i.e. listen for your downlink that
is a fraction of a second delayed due to the distance to the bird, but that
is certainly not the most desirable way to operate.  I'f I'm mistaken
about this, will some 767 owner please correct me?

73,
Todd
N9MWB
From: g-taylor4@tamu.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QSL Practices F6FNU, FR5DX
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:01:58 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
Reply-To: g-taylor4@tamu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

>
> Third time I've tried..hope it works this time.  Any whoooo
> Would all you netters who have any experience (good or bad)
> getting QSLs from FR5DX or stations managed by F6FNU please
> forward to me.  Many of the local packet users and DX'ers
> have complained vehemently about F6FNU and FR5DX.  This is not
> a flame, just a survey.  As a baseline, we all need to remember
> that overseas postage to USA is very expensive and a *green
> stamp* probably does not cut it anymore.
> Thanks in advance for any info. 73, Tom WB4IUX
> ps:  I got my cards from FR5DX (80 - 10 meters), but I had to send
> 5 green stamps .... and I got the card back promptly thru the buro!

Had no luck with FR5DX using foreign postage and routing through France, not
even a bureau response....yet (its been over 20 months). Have heard about the
high dollar return rate for this station over the air. Its just not worth it
to me to play these games.

Have had 100% return from F6FNU using 2 green stamps, european size envelopes,
annotating reverse of envelope with qso date/time information and all those
good tricks.

Greg ... KD4HZ







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From: edw@sequent.com (Ed Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Apartment antennas?
Date: 20 Dec 92 21:55:39 GMT
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Dec19.204033.13182@news.acns.nwu.edu> markb@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Brodsky) writes:
>	I recently have moved into an apartment. Finding space for my HF rig
>was no problem, but the anntenna is a bit more troublesome. I am limited in
>space and, because my apartment is on the first floor, height. I know I am
>not the first to face this problem, so I would like to hear what others
Dick Smith Electronics from the land of OZ and more recently California offers
a quality solution.
The Dick Smith Co-Tanger is Vertical and Horizontal Diamond phased single
element array capable of absorbing up to 1KW for periods of time. 
The Co-Tanger's novel design based on traditional solutions allows it to used
on any band. Yup ! just hook it up and load it up. The Folded array design 
allows the Co-Tanger to occupy a very small physical space while  providing
a large electical surprize in terms of bandwidth.
Hope that helps.
Ed
PS Pick one up at Dick Smith's or your closet today.

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