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From: jeffk@cdibm.fnal.gov (Jeff Kallenbach)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.la-law
Subject: Re: Verdict on 7 Jan show
Date: 8 Jan 1993 18:44:05 GMT
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I really thought last night's show was a big improvement - sort of a return to 
the salad days.  They had two stories that went all the way through,  two that 
continue, one that ended (Rox), and a teaser (Big Sur).  Douglas's bit was a 
riot.  Tommy will no doubt be haunted by this verdict.  Remember when Victor got 
a judge to order a couple *not* to take their daughter off life-support, then 
had to face the same decision with his brother?  Some such irony will round on 
Tommy.  Anyway, I really saw some signs of life last night.

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From: parvin1@husc11.harvard.edu (Douglas Parvin)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.la-law
Subject: Re: Jan. 7 show followup
Date: 9 Jan 93 16:19:51 GMT

Also, after Jonathon sniffed Douglas and seemed quite enamoured, he got a grip
on himself and said he had to run to the bathroom.  Was this double entendre
intended?  I cracked up.
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From: rnelson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu (Robert Nelson)
Subject: Re: test: ignore
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:46:05 GMT

In article <rnelson.29.726165813@alexandria.lib.utah.edu> rnelson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu (Robert Nelson) writes:
>From: rnelson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu (Robert Nelson)
>Subject: test: ignore
>Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:43:33 GMT
>this is a test
replying to my test ignore again
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From: Joanna L. Castillo <pefv702@utpe.pe.utexas.edu>
Subject: Jan. 7 show followup
X-Xxdate: Fri, 8 Jan 93 22:23:37 GMT
Organization: UT Petroleum Engineering Dept.
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 21:35:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.145944.2400@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> , cho@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan8.114606.19100@husc3.harvard.edu>, koumis@husc4.harvard.edu 
>(Anthony Koumis) writes:
>> 
>> Rox and baby. Silly idea but now that it is done oh well.
>
>Is it true that Rox and Tommy are married in real life?

Are you asking about the info I posted in my TV Guide summary posting?  
If so, I was talking about Alan Rachins and Joanna Frank who play Douglas 
and Shiela Brackman.for him  , hI know, t was exagge

>> So who is stalking Gwen?   
>
>Yeah, this is also getting on my nerves.  Also, how did Jonathan know
>to exit when he did?

You mean...why didn't he just stand there and stare at Gwen's package?
Heh.  Seriously, he appeared to be just walking through anyway when the 
delivery person asked him to sign for the package.  There was no reason 
for him to hang around.

>But the 'odor' case....was that resolved?  I know how the plaintiff feels.
>I grew up in Lubbock, Texas, and when the wind is blowing from a certain
>angle, you get this reeking odor from the stockyards.  It is so gross,
>it smells as if you're right in the middle of a well used cow pasture.
>These stockyards are from many miles away, but it's VERY flat there,
>so the wind just brings the odor along.  Anyone from Lubbock out there?
>Do you know what I'm talking about?  It doesn't happen often, but enough
>to etch a vivid memory.

I lived there for a year after high school.  It was pretty bad on a
"good" day.  :)

>Anyway, I didn't see a judgment on that case, did anyone else?

I don't think it was resolved -- and I guess the "expert" will be back.

>Also, what is Leland researching?  Melina is helping him, but I didn't
>understand what she was helping him with.

He's researching the case that Daniel was involved with in the 2nd (I
believe it was the 2nd) episode of this season -- the case where the 
guy in jail was hoping for a reversal in his conviction (from when 
Leland was just a young DA) based on the confession of another man 
who's dying of cancer.

>Even the opening with all the beepers, computer gadgets....was a good
>idea, but I thought they overdid it.  I just didn't think it was THAT
>hilarious, although I think it was supposed to be.

Well, I liked it.  It was exaggerated but funny.

>Pamela Cho

Joanna.

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From: Joanna L. Castillo <pefv702@utpe.pe.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Jan. 7 show followup
X-Xxdate: Fri, 8 Jan 93 23:54:22 GMT
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 22:59:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.221547.2756@wuecl.wustl.edu> Don Porter, dgp@atlas.wustl.edu writes:
><1993Jan8.145944.2400@ucbeh.san.uc.edu>, cho@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
>>> Also, how did Jonathan know to exit when he did?
>
><1993Jan8.213508.25283@chpc.utexas.edu> Joanna L. Castillo writes:
>> You mean...why didn't he just stand there and stare at Gwen's package?
>> Heh.  Seriously, he appeared to be just walking through anyway when the 
>> delivery person asked him to sign for the package.  There was no reason 
>> for him to hang around.
>
>Am I the only one who caught this?  He was making a run for the toilet.
>Remember he brought back some illness from his trip.  His comment was
>something like "Hope I make it in time!"

No...you're not the only one.  I just had a moment of temporary amnesia.  :)  
I'd thought he just left but now that you mention it, I remember his talk of 
the "porcelain seat" on the trip back earlier in the show and then the mad 
dash at the end.

>|   Don Porter | dgp@saturn.wustl.edu | Washington University in St Louis   |

Joanna.

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Subject: Re: writing or characters?
From: koumis@husc4.harvard.edu (Anthony Koumis)
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:47:05 EST
Organization: Harvard University Science Center



I said that the quirkiness and unexpected qulaity of LA LAW was now
de riguer so we now always expect these type of jokes so Pamela Cho
asked if I thought it was the writing or characters.

Of course, the beginning characters are the ones that one gets familar
with and like.  And I do not think that their replacements are that
good -- but that can be the result as you suggest of the writing.
I wish CJ had not chosen to leave.  But Melina is not very interesting
(so far) and Morales only walks around with his baby which is very
nice and gratifying to see a father involved in their child's uprbringing 
(though his wife is dead) but he doesnt seem to match Kuzak or Victor.

I think it is a combo, running out of ideas and finding uninspiring
actors.
From: cho@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.la-law
Subject: Re: Kelley 
Date: 5 Jan 93 00:25:24 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1992Dec31.205114.4816@memstvx1.memst.edu>, mcsweinberg@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
> Was I hallucenating (sp?) or was that Sheila Kelly in "Singles"... with a Jill
> Eikenberry like Henna Hair mistake?
> 
> 
> Rai.
> 
I don't know about that, but I did see her with Danny Glover in a movie
Monday night called Pure Luck.  She was blonde in this show, and played
a complete klutz who gets lost in the wilds of Mexico.  Another klutz 
and a great PI (Glover) go off to fetch or find her.  She didn't have
a huge part actually, since most of the show involved the two people
trying to find her.  But it was amusing.  The final scene is terrific
with both klutzes finding each other...and causing more havoc together.
It was like a funny Lethal Weapon sans Mel.
-Pamela Cho-
From: cho@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.la-law
Subject: Re: Kelley 
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:26:29 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1993Jan5.002524.2365@ucbeh.san.uc.edu>, cho@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
> In article <1992Dec31.205114.4816@memstvx1.memst.edu>, mcsweinberg@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>> Was I hallucenating (sp?) or was that Sheila Kelly in "Singles"... with a Jill
>> Eikenberry like Henna Hair mistake?
>> 
>> 
>> Rai.
>> 
> I don't know about that, but I did see her with Danny Glover in a movie
> Monday night called Pure Luck.  She was blonde in this show, and played
> a complete klutz who gets lost in the wilds of Mexico.  Another klutz 
> and a great PI (Glover) go off to fetch or find her.  She didn't have
> a huge part actually, since most of the show involved the two people
> trying to find her.  But it was amusing.  The final scene is terrific
> with both klutzes finding each other...and causing more havoc together.
> It was like a funny Lethal Weapon sans Mel.
> -Pamela Cho-

I apologize for the names of these actors.  I was thinking of the Gwen
character when you said 'Sheila Kelly'....I don't know the real names of
these people well.  Sorry.  The 'Gwen' actress was the one I was referring
to that played the klutz in 'Pure Luck.'  It was a very comical movie.
The last scene has the two klutzes going off together on a part of a pier
that has just broken off...then the camera backs off to a wide angle,
and you can see that they're headed for a huge waterfall.  THE END.

It was amazing how well she could play a 'dumb' spacey chick!
-PC-
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From: peea224@chpc.utexas.edu (Joanna L. Castillo)
Subject: TV Guide summary for January 7, 1993
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 03:44:52 GMT

Episode #9 of the 1992-93 season.

Oops...I nearly forgot again!  :)

TV Guide summary (reproduced without permission) follows:


Episode title:  Odor in the Court

A couple (Hugh O'Brian, Peggy McCay) whose daughter was murdered try 
to block the prison release of her killer -- their son-in-law (Robert 
Knepper); Flicker skates on thin ice with Becker; curiosity gets the 
best of Brackman, who's desperate to revitalize his sex life; and a 
neighbor (Gary Kroeger) raises a stink in court over smells emanating 
from a nearby hog-finishing plant.  Dennis:  Pat Millicano.  Sheila:  
Joanna Frank.  Jay:  Willie Garson.  Tom:  John Bowman.  LaPorte:  
Robert Harper.  Flicker:  Shelley Berman.  Judge Phillips:  Daniel 
Benzali.  Clark:  Ben Slack.

And, since I'm late this week, I guess I'll make a couple of comments
about the guest stars (I just recognized a couple of names this week,
for some reason):

  - Peggy McCay is a regular on the daytime soap "Days of Our Lives" 
    where she plays Caroline Brady.

  - Hugh O'Brian played the title role in the western series "Wyatt 
    Earp" back in the late 50's.

  - Will this be the Gary Kroeger from "Saturday Night Live"?  I
    guess so.

  - Joanna Frank and Alan Rachins are married in real life -- I'm 
    always surprised by how many people don't know that.  :)

  - I *think* Robert Harper is the guy that played Bubba on "Frank's
    Place."

  - And finally, Shelley Berman, who plays Flicker, has been around
    TV forever (or so says my mother) doing "variety type" shows 
    with slapstick and singing.  He was apparently quite popular back 
    in the 50's.  I remember someone on the net asking about him a few
    weeks ago.

Joanna.

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From: caren@engin.umich.edu (Caren Levine)
Subject: Re: Help!
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 17:13:52 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1993Jan10.120145.1@acad.drake.edu> sas010@acad.drake.edu writes:
>Hi!  I just got back from Holiday break...and my dear old parents managed to
>goof up my taping of the Jan 7 episode that everyone is disecting.  Could
>someone please e-mail (or just post) a summary of what happend?  Please?  It
>would be MOST appreciated.  Thanks a million!
>
Me too, if you please.  Thanks!

	-Caren


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From: sas010@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Help!
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 18:01:45 GMT

Hi!  I just got back from Holiday break...and my dear old parents managed to
goof up my taping of the Jan 7 episode that everyone is disecting.  Could
someone please e-mail (or just post) a summary of what happend?  Please?  It
would be MOST appreciated.  Thanks a million!

					-=Sean

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From: conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
Subject: Re: Kelley 
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:24:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.150644.26279@ll.mit.edu> mcbride@ll.mit.edu (Barbara McBride) writes:

>	you mean to tell me that jill was in something and mr tucker wasn't
>	there?  hard to believe!  

Actually it was Sheila Kelley who was in the movie being described.

>       i can't remember the last time i saw a
>	movie with one and not the other!! maybe they made it while stewart
>	was still recovering from the head injury ;^)

Perhaps you're just indulging in the fun of intentional exaggeration, in
which case have at it.  :-)  In case you were a little bit serious,
though, let me point out that they have made far more movies separately
than together.  Michael Tucker was in Diner and Tin Men (his character
was the only continuity between the two), as well as The Goodbye People
and Radio Days (and Purple Rose of Cairo).  All of Jill's theatrical
movies were made without Michael except for their walkon with Alison in
An Unmarried Woman (some titles I recall are Between the Lines, Butch
and Sundance, Rich Kids, Arthur, Hide in Plain Sight, Night Full of
Rain).  It's true that they've made some tvmovies together, but she has
made far more without him -- Orphan Train, My Boyfriend's Back, the one
where she was married to Ken Olin in Pennsylvania, the one where she was
a nun, the one where her son drowned, and 2 miniseries (Kane and Abel,
and the one about corrupt rich California people).

Jill Eikenberry has been one of my favorite actresses since I saw her in
her first movie, Between the Lines (which also introduced John Heard,
Lindsay Crouse, Joe Morton, and Marilu Henner to films).

Jon Alan Conrad
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From: jefrank@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jason E Frank)
Subject: question: the recovery of Abby's son
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:33:42 GMT

     I've finally gotten around to watching the 1st season of LAL (Saturday
afternoons on Lifetime), and apparently I've missed a key episode.  The
last one I saw was the 1st Xmas episode, wherein Abby's ex-husband brings
her son to her for the holiday.  2 weeks earlier, Abby's son was still 
missing, so he must have been recovered in the one episode I missed.  
Can someone give me the details on this (and especially whay Abby is still
so amicable towards her ex-, after the psychological hell he put her 
through by the kidnapping)?  Thanks!

--jason

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From: mcbride@ll.mit.edu (Barbara McBride)
Subject: Re: Kelley 
Originator: mcbride@ll.mit.edu (Barbara McBride)
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Lexington MA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 15:06:44 GMT


In article <1993Jan5.002524.2365@ucbeh.san.uc.edu>, cho@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
|> In article <1992Dec31.205114.4816@memstvx1.memst.edu>, mcsweinberg@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
|> > Was I hallucenating (sp?) or was that Sheila Kelly in "Singles"... with a Jill
|> > Eikenberry like Henna Hair mistake?
|> > 
|> > 
|> > Rai.
|> > 
|> I don't know about that, but I did see her with Danny Glover in a movie
|> Monday night called Pure Luck.  She was blonde in this show, and played
|> a complete klutz who gets lost in the wilds of Mexico.  Another klutz 
|> and a great PI (Glover) go off to fetch or find her.  She didn't have
|> a huge part actually, since most of the show involved the two people
|> trying to find her.  But it was amusing.  The final scene is terrific
|> with both klutzes finding each other...and causing more havoc together.
|> It was like a funny Lethal Weapon sans Mel.
|> -Pamela Cho-

	you mean to tell me that jill was in something and mr tucker wasn't
	there?  hard to believe!  i can't remember the last time i saw a
	movie with one and not the other!! maybe they made it while stewart
	was still recovering from the head injury ;^)

	babs
From: koumis@husc4.harvard.edu (Anthony Koumis)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.la-law
Subject: Re: Verdict on 7 Jan show
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:46:05 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center


I kept my fingers crossed for a new year beginning . . . .  and did
think that last night show was a bit better, probably just because
Stuart wasn't running around doing stupid things with Benny.  But his
spaciness is still annoying but less so now because at least he
isn't amnesiac.  Eating the chocolate syrup, yes Stuart is just a kid
at heart and ponders the wonders of the world. ho hum.

I am very tired of this Flicker story.  Please conclude it quickly, if
he murdered Shyulyer let's have a trial, if it is another trick on
Arnie let us go on and end the story.

Rox and baby. Silly idea but now that it is done oh well.

So who is stalking Gwen?   And what will happen to the happy couples
all at Big Sur.  Perhaps they willl all have feromones and go after 
each other.  

La LAw problem it seems to me is that it made its rep and fun on
funny quirky plots and serious courtroom issues.  The quirky plots
are now de rigeur and expected so they seem cliched andnot fun and
unexpected anymnore.  And the courtroom dramas and nailbiting issues
have all but disappeared.  Last nights was similar to the teenage girl
who was driving when she was hit by a car and her little brother was
killed.  It was sad -- her father had pent up hostility to her.  Here,
the mother breaks down and cried over the father's pent up hostility
to the ex-son-in-law.  After seven years, plots run out and I wonder if LA Alw
will be joining Cheers this year.
From: KitchenRN@ssd0.laafb.af.mil
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: [9F01] Homer the Heretic
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:24:11 GMT
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marty@Shiva.COM (Marty Del Vecchio) writes:
>Oh, Doctor!  A 98-yard triple-reverse ties the score at 63--63!
>We have seen nothing but razzle-dazzle here today, three visits from
>Morganna the Kissing Bandit, and the surprising return of Jim Brown!
>-- Frank Gifford calls the football game, ``Homer the Heretic''
>
>===
>
>I believe that this was supposed to be a Keith Jackson impression.  Of 
>course, since Keith Jackson does college football (Saturday afternoons), and 
>Frank Gifford does Monday Night Football (Monday nights), neither is 
>accurate, since Homer is watching football on Sunday.

Unless Homer is watching a playoff game.  ABC covered playoff games on 
Saturday this year, I guess they could cover Sunday games.

Or else, he's watching a game on tape.  Keith Jackson used to do Monday Night 
Football in its first year of existence, some 20+ years ago.

The surprising return of Jim Brown would almost guarantee that it's 
professional football.  I don't think he has any years of college eligibility 
left (unless he's coaching, of course!)
:-)

Rick Kitchen
Los Angeles Air Force Base
kitchenrn@ssd0.laafb.af.mil
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From: fstuart@eng.auburn.edu (Frank Stuart)
Subject: Re: Phoney Phone calls
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:20:52 GMT

In article <perry-040193162148@bperry.gsfc.nasa.gov> perry@lheavx.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brendan Perry) writes:
>A few years ago I heard this tape that must have been a 300th generation
>dupe of a guy who constantly called this bar called 'The Two Bar' or 'Too
>Bar' or something like that, with this gravelly voiced guy named Red as

I think you are looking for the _Tube Bar_.  I haven't actually heard it,
but it came up in a.t.s a year or two ago.


Frank Stuart           |   grep: dead.trees: Permission denied
fstuart@eng.auburn.edu |   MMMMmmmmm, Soylent Green
From: c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au (Chris Baird)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: MARGE VS. THE MONORAIL
Date: 9 Jan 93 16:31:59 GMT
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
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Chris Burgess:
> I heard on "Entertainment Tonight" that Marge vs the Monorail will be
> broadcast on January 14th, so that means it will air next Thursday
> night.

And I've heard from a reputable source that Leonard Nimoy will
voice in this episode, in a role originally written for George
Takei.  Takei wanted a few too many changes to the dialogue, so
the writers asked Nimoy instead, and to their complete surprise,
he agreed.

ObHeyTrekkersGetOffMyBack: Neither William Shatner or George Takei
cameoed in ``Itchy & Scratchy: The Movie''. Thank the vocal talents
of Hank Azaria and Harry Shearer.

-- 	        "Wow, that really took my mind off those
Chris Baird,,	 awful transforming space mutants."[8f22]
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From: parry@bass.geo.ucalgary.ca (Captain Error)
Subject: MacSimps DYN
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 23:10:11 GMT
Organization: CREWES Group, University of Calgary

  At long last I have something of critical importance to announce to the 
masses who are hunched over their machines yearning for more Simpsonia! It's 
a DYN (ooh, how exciting). It's not in the FAQ (how in accordance with 
accepted netiquette - I _am_ Canadian you know). It's ...

  Um, some background seems to be required. I recall reading somewhere that
"Simpson" was MG's choice of a name for OFF as they are sons of simps 
(presumably daughters of simps also, but I digress). Enough background.

  In the opening credits, as the title appears in an azure sky dotted with
fluffy clouds, "Simps" appears first while the "ons" is briefly obscured by 
those same clouds. This is my DYN and it is mine.

  I now expect to be inundated with offers of drink, sex, and free hockey 
tickets. This is the only possible reason that I have been able to glean that
would compel so many people to spend their time scrutinizing OFF in such 
incredibly mind-numbing detail. I should know, I have a ten-penny nail stuck
in my hypothalamus and can't tell that it's there. (Erm, I'll take the drink 
and tix, but will have to forgo the sex as my wife would take a very dim view).

Did you spot the Monty Python reference hidden in this article? Shame on 
you.
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