HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jstc_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (j. collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Mac IIfx won't recognize 12 Meg Memory
Date: 14 Oct 92 04:38:39 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <M9RRBSF4@cc.swarthmore.edu> kohn@cs.swarthmore.edu (Daniel Kohn) writes:

>	Just wanted to point out that the underlined bit is by far the most
>likely reason that only 8 megs of RAM could be used.  32 bit addressing
>(which can be turned on in the Memory Control Panel) allows the computer to
>access greater than 8 megs.  The fact that Seaney's Finder does see the
>extra 4 megs, but does not allow him to access them, makes me almost sure
>that this is the problem.  BTW, this is a FAQ.

>MS>I believe that in the IIci and later (which includes the IIfx, obviously),
>MS>it doesn't matter which bank gets the larger-capacity SIMMs.  You're right
>MS>in that all the SIMMs in a bank must be the same capacity.  I'm still
>MS>wondering how he got 12 megs into a IIfx, though. 

>	Seaney would have 4 1-meg SIMMs in one bank and 4 2-meg SIMMs in
>another.

As I mentioned before I do not think that 4x1meg and 4x2meg can be used 
together.  We have tried this configuration on a IIci before and it did not
work.  I also have not heard of 2 meg simms for the fx.

If the originally poster could tell everyone what configuration he is using
then we could end that debate.  I also agree though that only real way
to get 12 megs is to have 4 1 meg simms and 4 2 meg simms.

-justin m. collins <jstc_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: wkay@vlsi21.gsfc.nasa.gov (Kevin Kay)
Subject: Switching video res. on a Quadra
Reply-To: wkay@vlsi21.gsfc.nasa.gov
Organization: Clemson University, ECE Dept.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:43:18 GMT


This may be an old question that has been solved before, but I guess I'll
never know until I ask.  

I have a 19" Radius monitor that I want to run directly from the internal 
video of a Quadra 700/900/950.  Unfortunately, the Quadra is unable to sense
this monitor and simply outputs its video as if a standard 13" RGB is 
connected.  I have contacted Radius, and they want me to PURCHASE a piece of
software called Dynamic Desktop in order to get the setup that I desire.

Going through the government purchase procedure is a bear, and it seems that
theis software should be provided with the equipment in the first place.  As a 
result, I am posting this message looking for a public version of this software
for changing the video output resolution of a Quadra.  Please send responses
directly to wkay@vlsi21.gsfc.nasa.gov, a summary posting will follow.....

Thanks ahead of time,
Kevin Kay
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
From: opus@iear.arts.rpi.edu (Christopher S. Eplett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: changing volume names after file sharing
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:58:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: rpi.-q2z#sc
Organization: Rainsallyear Instipolytechnitorturetute, Troy
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A70263D071045512@opus.stu.rpi.edu>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 14 Oct 92 04:54:56 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9

This is probably a dumb question ( and a FAQ ), but I have a Quadra 700
that I had filke sharing running on at one point, but am no longer.

The problem is, now I can't change the names of the volumes that I was
sharing. I seem to remember that this problem was addressed recently, but
I can't seem to find the relevant article....

Could some kind person out there please tell me how I can convince my mac
to let me change the names?

	Thanx a bunch, eh?

+---------------------------------------+-------------------------------+
|	Christopher S. Eplett		| "I think...			|
|					|				|
|	opus@iear.arts.rpi.edu		|  I've forgotten what I think!"|
|	epletc2@rpi.edu			|	R.H. Gumby		|
|	opus@opus.stu.rpi.edu (no email)|				|
+---------------------------------------+-------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: harris3@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Kevin Harris)
Subject: Re: System 7.1 WHEN???
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: -
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:33:59 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.141650.13545@pellns.alleg.edu>,
smytonj@murr11.alleg.edu (James Smyton) wrote:
> 
> I hear all this talk about 7.1.  When will it be available and where can I  
> get it.  So far it sounds good.  If anyone knows....will I still need the  
> tuner as I do is 7.0.1?
> 

System 7.1 comes out with the new Macs on October 19th.  And as far as
where to get it,
you will have to check your local vendor or MacConnection.

And the tuner will be built in so NO you won't need it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: terjer@ifi.unit.no (Terje Rydland)
Subject: Re: Unix on Mac IIsi
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: IfI, UNIT-AVH
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 08:09:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.172847.25046@cc.umontreal.ca>,
tsirbasc@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Tsirbas Christos) wrote:
> 
> I am thinking about switching to A/UX on my IIsi.  I currently have a 3/40
> set-up with no processor, what kind of hardware setup would I need in terms of
> memory and Hard-drive as well as any additional hardware.  

We run A/UX 3.0 on our II si's. Configuration:
17 MB RAM, 160 MB harddisk, FPU.

17 MB RAM is not necessary, 9 MB is (will not run - only walk - with 5 MB)
160 MB Harddisk is to small. (You can get the system on 80 MB, but then you
have
no room for apps.)
FPU is necessary (will not run without)

A II si is really not good enough for serious work with UNIX, but the
above configuration works.


Terje Rydland
Dept. of Informatics, UNIT, Trondheim, Norway
Internet : terjer@ifi.unit.no
AppleLink: NOR0103
Tlf : +47-7-591845
Fax : +47-7-591733
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: boyd@apple.com (scott boyd)
Subject: Re: How to increase system heap?
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 08:20:34 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system

In article <1992Oct6.124339.19568@bio.vu.nl>, ebido@bio.vu.nl (Etienne
Bido) wrote:
> 
> How do you increase the system heap under system 7?
> 
> I think it should be done automatically but when I ask  
> `about this Macintosh` it shows just a tiny bit of free
> memory instead of the suggested 20 %. Something like
> system:4.9 MB free heap 0.1 MB
> 
> Are there any tricks or programs that can solve this?

The answer is:  System 7.

System 7 automatically adjusts the size of the system heap as needed.
It may look tight when it actually has plenty of room to grow.  That's
because it gets its room to grow from another heap, and the amount
of space actually available to be used is not shown in the About This
Macintosh display (in an easy-to-read way).

Bottom line:  there is no need to use heap-adjusting tools with System 7.

One thing you should use is your power of observation.  It's pretty
common that users load up their system with extensions, and then
wonder where all their space went.  Some of those extensions use
a lot of memory.  To get an overall sense, try booting with and
without extensions, and see what the difference is in the About This
Macintosh window.

Regards,

scott
boyd@apple.com
macintosh system software
From: davidw@its.CSIRO.AU (David Woodgate)
Subject: Archie.au's Old Info-Mac material to stop
Originator: davidw@steps
Organization: CSIRO ITS
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 07:16:09 GMT



The collection on archie.au of material that has been removed
>From the info-mac archive will stop on Tuesday 13 October 1992.

This will mean that the directory /micros/mac/info-mac/Old will
be deleted.

Please note that the standard shadow of the Info-Mac archive is
being maintained.

This change is required because of there being a lack of disk
space to maintain the Old collection along with full shadows of
the Info-Mac archive and the University of Michigan Macintosh
archive.

It is hoped that the Washington University archives will be
adopting this service soon. Announcements will be made in
appropriate newsgroups at that time.

If there are any concerns about this change, please let me know.

					David Woodgate
					davidw@archie.au

------------------------------

End of Info-Mac Digest
******************************
From: Apgar@Apple.com (Gar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.announce
Subject: Apple CD300
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: 7 Oct 1992 20:00:20 -0500
Organization: AppleCD-300 Drive announced for Dec 92
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

	===========================================================
	[ full announcement text was forwarded to comp.newprod
	[ (where it should appear shortly). if the full PR is not
	[ FTPable from FTP.APPLE.COM, it's Apple's own fault!  }$-)
	[ a condensed version follows.
	[				---Werner (CSMA-moderator)
	===========================================================

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

	     Apple Unveils High-Performance CD-ROM Drive
 
Apple today introduced the new AppleCD 300 CD-ROM drive, available in
both external and internal versions, it is two times faster than most
CD-ROM drives, offers a choice of operating speeds, and supports new
CD-ROM formats, including Kodak Photo CD.

The AppleCD 300 is equipped with a large 256K data buffer.

With a speed select switch the user can choose single- or double-speed mode.

The CD 300 can read multi-session Kodak Photo CD discs.
A Photo CD image is a digitized version of a 35 MM photograph
A multi-session Photo CD disc allows additional photographic images
to be added to images already on it.

The CD 300 also supports several new CD formats, including CD+G and
CD+MIDI.  These new formats allow CD developers to better integrate
audio, text and graphics.  The CD+MIDI format, for example, will
allow professional and amateur musicians to more easily use MIDI-
synthesized music in a CD title.

To introduce new CD 300 users to the array of information available
on CD, Apple will ship a collection of 8 to 10 CD-ROM titles with the
drive.  These will include: Alice to Ocean, by Rick Smolan; Mozart:
String Quartet in C Major, by The Voyager Company; Cinderella, by
Discis Knowledge Research; Nautilus, by Metatec/Discovery Systems;
Photo CD Sampler, by Eastman Kodak Company, and The Chronicles and
Collections CD, by Apple.

An internal version, called the CD 300i, will be available as a
dealer-installable option (requires a 5.25-in. drive bay).

A new version of CD-Setup software (version 4.0.1) also supports
all other CD-ROM drives from Apple.

		   Pricing, Availability and Distribution

The AppleCD 300 will be available in December 1992 and the 300i Internal
Drive Upgrade Kit will be available in January 1993 through authorized
Apple resellers.  All AppleCD 300 drives carry a one-year limited warranty.
Pricing, availability and distribution will vary by country.
 
 
Product                              MSRP           Availability
 
AppleCD 300                         $599.00         December 1992
AppleCD 300i Internal Upgrade Kit   $499.00         January 1993
(Includes installation kit)
From: bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.announce
Subject: Information from MacWeek about October 19 hardware releases
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Date: 16 Oct 1992 15:05:39 -0500
Organization: Starfleet Headquarters: San Francisco
Expires: 60 days
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Here's some information from MacWeek (12 October 1992 and previous
issues) on the new Macintosh hardware due out on Monday, October 19.

Don't treat this as gospel; it's of course subject to change, typoes,
and men in blue suits.  Prices given are suggested retail only;
street prices will probably be lower.

IIvi:		030@16.  Not sold in the United States.

IIvx:		030@32, 32k cache, FPU, 1 PDS slot, 3 NuBus slots.
		4/80 - $2949.  5/80/CD - $3219.  4/230 - $3319.

Powerbook 160:	030@25, 4-bit supertwist, 8-bit color video out.
		4/40 - $2429.  4/80 - $2789.  4/120 - $3149.

Powerbook 180:	030@33, FPU, 4-bit active matrix, 8-bit color video out.
		4/80 - $3869.  4/120 - $4229.

Duo 210:	030@25, 4-bit supertwist, no internal floppy.
		4/80-@ $2249.

Duo 230:	030@33, 4-bit supertwist, no internal floppy.
		4/80 - $2609.  4/120 - $2969.

Duo Dock:	2 NuBus slots, internal floppy, 8-bit color out, ports.
		Optional hard drive and FPU.
		$1079

Duo MiniDock:	8-bit color video out, ports.
		$589

(The docks will not be available on Monday, and maybe not even for
 three months or so, because they haven't passed FCC tests yet.)

14-inch Color Display: $589.  (640x480, swivel base, replaces current 13")

PowerBook Express Modem: 14.4k data, 9.6k send/receive fax, V.42, V.42bis,
		MNP 2-5, Extended Hayes, Fax group 3.
		$319 (for the PowerBook 160 & 180 and Duos only).


-- 
_/_/_/  Brian Kendig                             Je ne suis fait comme aucun
 _/_/  bskendig@netcom.com                de ceux que j'ai vus; j'ose croire
  _/                            n'etre fait comme aucun de ceux qui existent.
        "Sex is DEATH!"      Si je ne vaux pas mieux, au moins je suis autre.
         -- Barbara Bush                                         -- Rousseau
From: davidw@its.CSIRO.AU (David Woodgate)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.announce
Subject: old INFO-MAC material on ARCHIE.AU will disappear
Followup-To: poster
Date: 10 Oct 1992 00:10:54 -0500
Organization: CSIRO ITS
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

The collection on ARCHIE.AU of material that has been removed
from the INFO-MAC archive will end on Tuesday 13 October 1992.

	This will mean that the directory (and all files it contains)

		/micros/mac/info-mac/Old

	will be deleted.

Please note that the standard shadow of the Info-Mac archive is
being maintained.

This change is required because of there being a lack of disk
space to maintain the Old collection along with full shadows of
the Info-Mac archive and the University of Michigan Macintosh
archive.

It is hoped that the Washington University archives will be
adopting this service soon. Announcements will be made in
appropriate newsgroups at that time.

If there are any concerns about this change, please let me know.

					David Woodgate
					davidw@archie.au
From: MacUserLabs@cup.portal.com (Stephan - Somogyi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacIntercomm (finally a real comm program)
Date: Fri,  9 Oct 92 16:21:06 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na
  <1992Oct5.173125.686@muddcs.claremont.edu> <67203@cup.portal.com>
  <BvtyJ0.ELq@world.std.com>

jbailey@world.std.com (james d bailey) writes:

>When MacIntercomm performs as advertised, like it does for me, it allows
>real work with almost no loss of transfer speed. It might be worth
>spending a little time tracking down the problem.

I don't use any extraneous INITs, but, due to the environment I'm in, I
have a fair number of non-extraneous ones. If I have a setup that works
fine and introduce a new piece of shipping software and my Mac subsequently
crashes, I must find fault with the new software.

If, on the other hand, I recieve beta software that crashes, I will usually
take the time to find the problem so that the folks who were kind enough to
send me the beta have a better chance of shipping a solid product.

>My guess is that at higher speeds you wont find ZTerm so usable.

My serial speed is 38400 no matter what the modulation speed, and the vast
majority of my ZTerm use is with a v.32bis-capable service. ZTerm behaves
quite usably.

__________________________________________________________________________
Stephan Somogyi                critical pathologist                MacUser
From: clarke.stevens@gtri.gatech.edu (Clarke Stevens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: TALK on Macintosh ? Which programs ?
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:38:51 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: GTRI/AERO

In article <Conrad_Nobili-071092003755@nobili.harvard.edu>,
Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU (Conrad C. Nobili) wrote:
> Get Peter Lewis' talk/talkd package from Sumex....

For even more excitement, get ircle.  This is an IRC (Internet Relay Chat)
program that lets you have live group and private discussions with people
all over the world via Internet!  You can get it at sumex.

------------------------------------------------------------------
J. Clarke Stevens               |  Georgia Tech Research Institute
clarke.stevens@gtri.gatech.edu  |  (404) 528-3254
From: antoine@Apple.COM (Antoine Duong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacX, Who do I buy it from now?
Keywords: MacX
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:35:14 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

doug@cos.com (Doug Whitehead) writes:

>Who now sells MacX ?  
>Long ago when my previous company was a developer,
>it was a product of Apple.  Now Apple denies ownership, and 
>APDA denies ownership.

>Does anybody know where I can get it?

>Thanks,

>doug@cos.com
>Doug Whitehead
>Corp. for Open Systems Int.L
>fax# (703) 846-8590

Doug,
Apple still owns it, but you have to order through a dealer
because APDA does not carry it.
Here is the part number I found on the September price list.Price
is suggested retail.

M0108LL/C	MacX 1.1.7	239.00

--ad

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.apps
From: mike@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Smithwick)
Subject: BRU for Mac??
Keywords: Eat dust 
Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 06:14:49 GMT

[]

Is there a bru available for the Mac? I want to be able to read bru
tapes created on an Amiga.

mike


-- 
"There is no problem too big that can't be solved with high explosives"-Rush

Mike Smithwick - ames!zorch!mike
From: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Fast modems and uAccess
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:24:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: outpost.D2150035.fgqre7
Reply-To: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Organization: Peirce Software
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1

I may be buying one of these new fast modems (V.32bis) to use with
uAccess (I have 1.6v1).

Does anyone have experience using these modems with uAccess?  I'd
like to hear good/bad stories before I make a purchase decision.

I'm a tad nervous since one of the modems I have, a 2400 baud teleport
doesn't work with uAccess.  The teleport software always crashes when
uAccess trys to access it (the Teleport does work fine with AppleLink
and Ameria Online).  

I hooked up borrowed QBlazer (only V.32) and although it sort of worked
when it talked to another QBlazer, it didn't work well at all when it
talk with slower 2400 bps modems (didn't negotiate down to 2400 bps).  

THANKS

--  Michael Peirce      --   peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org
--  Peirce Software     --   Suite 301, 719 Hibiscus Place
--                      --   San Jose, California USA 95117
--  Makers of...        --   voice: (408) 244-6554 fax: (408) 244-6882
--            SMOOTHIE  --   AppleLink: peirce & America Online: AFC Peirce
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: summeral@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SUMMERALL  ELMINA LANIER)
Subject: Fax STF one key on/off control.
Summary: Is there an FKey or Quickkey extension to turn Faxstf on/off?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:20:14 GMT

I am having trouble creating a QuickKeys (2.1.2a) sequence to turn FaxSTF on
and off with a keystroke.  For some reason, when the setup dialog is opened by
the sequence, it won't recognize a quickkeys click on the software icon as a
real click.  It gighlights the icon, but the dialog doesn't change to reflect
the choice.

It would be even nicer to have a quickkeys extension or FKey to do it, so you
wouldn't have to wait for all of the windows to come up and go away.

Thanks,
Thomas Summerall
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: jam@jupiter.claremont.edu (Jay Margolis)
Subject: Re: MacIntercomm (finally a real comm program)
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 03:30:56 GMT

In article <D2150035.flv0pw@outpost.SF-Bay.org> peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org  
(Michael Peirce) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Oct8.233419.14095@muddcs.claremont.edu>  
(comp.sys.mac.comm), jam@jupiter.claremont.edu (Jay Margolis) writes:
> >
> >                                           MacIntercomm is MUCH more  
able  
> > to be compatible with future hardware and system software, not less.   
They  
> > depend on neither the hardware nor the system software, but rather the  
> > code that is part of the program.
> 
> Huh?  This doesn't really make any sense.  If they don't access the
> serial port directly (accessing the hardware) or use the operating
> system to do it, how do they send any data?
> 
> The ONLY way to stay compatable is to use the operating system.  This
> isn't just some far away future.  PowerPC based Macs aren't that far
> away and they do include a few little changes from current Macs :-)
> 
> --  Michael Peirce      --   peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org
> --  Peirce Software     --   Suite 301, 719 Hibiscus Place
> --                      --   San Jose, California USA 95117
> --  Makers of...        --   voice: (408) 244-6554 fax: (408) 244-6882
> --            SMOOTHIE  --   AppleLink: peirce & America Online: AFC  
Peirce

Michael:

See many previous message from myself and others.  MacIntercomm uses the  
normal way of accessing the serial port to insure future compatibility,  
and is even compatible with the comm toolbox connection manager (the same  
level of compatibility as MP II and VersaTerm).

-Jay
From: Andrew Waegel <awaegel@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:25 PDT
Subject: ISDN 'tween nets
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1364300007:000:402
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!awaegel    Oct 15 18:25:00 1992


I'm looking for folks who have experience with using 
ISDN to connect 2 remote Mac EtherTalk networks,
preferrably with a mac-like interface such as Liaision.
Specifically, what hardware is needed? Is the Apple ISDN
card enough - will it plug directly into an ISDN line?
What software comm products speak ISDN? Thanks...
			-andrew waegel
			 Benevolent technofetishist
			 MetaWest Design Corporation

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: dwade@svcdudes.com
Subject: Re: Need advice on communication pgm...
Organization: Software Ventures, Inc.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 22:42:23 GMT

Ditto for MicroPhone, except that we have a very powerful scripting language
and cost something like $20 more.  (The price just got lowered $100, so
I don't know the exact amount they sell it for now.)  

In article <6178.2ad5c5c0@hayes.com> bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman) writes:
>In article <BvtIBs.Guz@DMI.USherb.CA>, martin@DMI.USherb.CA (Jean-francois Martin) writes:
>> Can someone give me his or her advice of communication software on the Mac. 
>> What I want from this software is:
>
>Smartcom II can do this, let's find out.
>> 
>> * the ability to create macros in interactive mode
>
>By this I think you mean "learn mode" or "watch me" type of script/macro
>creation.
>
>> * support for zmodem, xmodem, ymodem, kermit, macbinary, ascii, etc.
>
>Yes to all. And it includes CompuServe B plus.
>
>> * the ability to captude theincoming text
>
>Yes. (er, Capture)
>
>> * background doiwnloading
>
>Yes. (Just don't go to sleep on the menu bar <grin>)
>
>> * neat user interface (this exclude WhiteKnight I think...)
>
>Smartcom II has an excellent user interface. It is easy to learn, and easy
>to use, even when used infrequently.
>
>> * full control over communication setting (baud, etc.)
>
>Just about all comm software does this.
>
>Smartcom II has excellent terminal emulation, and it is very fast both
>on emulation and file transfer.
>
>The scripting language is not real sophisticated, but if you aren't writing
>complex scripts, it should perform admirably.
>
>You can find Smartcom II for about $85 from larger mail order houses
>such as MacWarehouse.
>
>Check it out.
>
>-- 
>Bill Coleman, AA4LR                ! CIS: 76067,2327    AppleLink: D1958
>Principal Software Engineer        ! Packet Radio: AA4LR @ W4QO
>Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc. ! UUCP: uunet!hayes!bcoleman
>POB 105203 Atlanta, GA 30348 USA   ! Internet: bcoleman%hayes@uunet.uu.net
>Disclaimer: "My employer doesn't pay me to have opinions."
>Quote: "The same light shines on vineyards that makes deserts." -Steve Hackett.
>


-- 
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