HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Old articles coming in to news
From: williamsca@hirama.hiram.edu (Curtis Williams)
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:42:53 -0500
Organization: Hiram College
Nntp-Posting-User: williamsca

I recently re-initialized my news disk by accident.  I went back to my most
recent backup (Oct 2, 1992) and did a restore from tape.  I then began a skim to
remove all of those old articles.  I realize that my news.items file is now old
and that articles that were once on the system are not in the ID file anymore so
I expect to see some articles that were already on the system before the
deletion.

I am now receiving articles that are approximately 1 week old.  The bulk of the
articles on my system today are from 16 Nov 92 and 17 Nov 92.  I can find very
few current articles (from today's or yesterday's date) on the system.

Has anyone else done this?  Is this something that I should worry about?  Will
these old articles stop arriving or will it eventually catch up?

Please e-mail responses because I don't know if posting will get here right
away.  It might take a week for them to get here.

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From: leesw@logica.co.uk
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: patch for header parsing?
Date: 18 Nov 92 11:37:20 GMT

Could some kind soul please tell me which patch I need to apply in order
to cope correctly with tab characters at the start of message header
continuation lines (and thereby appease the moderator of news.answers :-)

Thanks

William 
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Trumpet and ANU-News
From: Dolan@acuvax.acu.edu (Tom Dolan)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:20:02 GMT
Organization: ACU Biblical Studies

Does anyone else use trumpet client to ANU-News Server?

I can't get posts from trumpet to go to ANU-News batch mail distribution.

Help Please!

Tom Dolan      Dolan@Acuvax.acu.edu
Systems Manager
College of Biblical Studies
Abilene Christian Universtiy
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: news@ipx04 ()
Subject: tin and openwin
Reply-To: news@ppgfr.uucp
Organization: PPG Hellige, Freiburg, GERMANY
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 11:27:35 GMT

Hi folks,
is there something to be cautious, when using tin under openwin? Is it ok
to start tin in openwin with only %tin or %tin & ?

Any tricks?

Thank you in advance, please email to
news@ppgfr.uucp 

Roman Schwartz (postmaster)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: rn to outside server
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff & Nonsense Division
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 06:34:50 GMT

In article <Dolan.110.722122112@acuvax.acu.edu> Dolan@acuvax.acu.edu (Tom Dolan) writes:

>What is the command to get rn to read news on the server acuvax.acu.edu

The mystical incantation is

          man rn

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers,comp.windows.x
From: dominic@skaro.genie.uottawa.ca (Dominic Richens)
Subject:  Xrn (Motif) popup colours make my eyes pop.
Followup-To: poster
Originator: dominic@shamin.genie.uottawa.ca
Keywords: xrn, popup, colours, motif
Reply-To: dominic@shamin.genie.uottawa.ca
Organization: MCRLab - University of Ottawa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 16:20:09 GMT


Hi xrn users, a question 4 u:

The popups for the motif version of xrn on my system (SCO ODT1.1) have
electric green for background and steel blue(-ish) for the foreground.  As
a result, they are very difficult to read.  

The normal xrn*background and xrn*foreground resources have no effect,
and although "popup" is the first argument to the XtCreatePopupShell call,
neither popup*background, nor *popup*background work.

Anyone know how to changes these colours?

Xrn is version 6.17

thanx in advance

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: jbigg@Ingres.COM (John D. Bigg - UK.)
Subject: Binaries for news readers especially VNEWS
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: 
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:27:05 GMT

Please can someone let me know where I can get (ftp) binaries for news readers
( I have searched for a FAQ ). I am especially looking for a newer news reader
for VMS than VNEWS V1.4-b1. This version only allows upto 1500 groups before 
dropping all others.

I am also interested in readers for SUNOS using Motif and character terminals.

Thanks in advance.

________________________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: erodrigu@dcc.uchile.cl (Eduardo Rodriguez)
Subject: Re: rn to outside server
Originator: erodrigu@tortel
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:58:52 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Chile, Depto. de Ciencias de la Computacion


In article <Dolan.110.722122112@acuvax.acu.edu>, Dolan@acuvax.acu.edu (Tom Dolan) writes:
> What is the command to get rn to read news on the server acuvax.acu.edu
> I'm on the Unix machine gibbs.oit.unc.edu - what do I type in at the percent 
> sign prompt.

Set the NNTPSERVER environment, in case your host is using
nntp to read news.

edo...

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Subject: Re: tin and openwin
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 16:20:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.112735.417@ppgfr.uucp> news@ppgfr.uucp writes:
>Hi folks,
>is there something to be cautious, when using tin under openwin? Is it ok
>to start tin in openwin with only %tin or %tin & ?

You could always be daring an just try it!  Put caution to the wind!
Type those commands with reckless abandon!  They just might work!

:-)

(why would you want to start tin in the background?)

--Dave
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net (Iain Lea)
Subject: Re: How can I install tin1.16 on HP 9000/730?
Reply-To: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net
Organization: TIN Support
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 Beta PL7]
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 12:05:33 GMT

Robert Ju-ching Chen (crj@nm.itri.org.tw) wrote:
:
:   I got the tin-1.16 and wanted to install tin on HP 9000/730 (HPUX 8.07).
: But when I used command "make sysv" to make, I got the messages:
:
: ./tin.h: 100: Can't find include file sys/ptem.h
: ./tin.h: 105: Can't find include file sys/bsdtypes.h

Try compiling with 'make sysvr4'. This will get you a 95% compile. 
The other 5% requires editing line ~50 in signal.c:

Change
    return ((void (*) (int)) (-1));
to
    return ((void (*) ()) (-1));

This problem (HPUX) is fixed in PL7 which I am releasing this week.

Iain

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Xref: sparky news.software.readers:2193 alt.sources.d:1416 alt.sys.amiga.uucp:2700 de.comp.sys.amiga:693
From: davison@borland.com (Wayne Davison)
Subject: Re: Can I get TRN to KILL silently?
Organization: Borland International
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:31:14 GMT

Try using the -t (terse) option and see if that limits the verbosity of
the kill files enough for you.  It's not quite silent, but almost.

..Wayne..
From: manley@optilink.UUCP (Terry Manley)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: trn2.2/mthreads mt.log error message
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:57:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: DSC/Optilink Access Products

mthreads reports the following:

Nov 16 08:41+** line in 'active' has no space:  **

It occurs *after* processing the last newsgroup
in the active file.  So far I haven't seen that
this is causing any problems.  A glance at the
mthreads source was not particularly helpful.

Ideas anyone?

dave
manley@optilink.com
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: rn to outside server
From: Dolan@acuvax.acu.edu (Tom Dolan)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:28:32 GMT
Organization: ACU Biblical Studies

What is the command to get rn to read news on the server acuvax.acu.edu
I'm on the Unix machine gibbs.oit.unc.edu - what do I type in at the percent 
sign prompt.

Tom Dolan      Dolan@Acuvax.acu.edu
Systems Manager
College of Biblical Studies
Abilene Christian Universtiy
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: news@ipx04 ()
Subject: help needed on from-header
Reply-To: news@ppgfr.uucp
Organization: PPG Hellige, Freiburg, GERMANY
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 10:32:28 GMT


Hi people,

some of the people out on the uunet send me email telling me, that my
From: -header is wrong.
I posted to e newsgroup with reflectors and got the reflections. Well,
my From: -header is sh...

But I don't know, how to fix it. Any idea there?

I'm the postmaster. We are using inews, NNTP (what version? how I
find it out?), some use tin 1.1PL4.

Who builds the From-Header? CNews or tin?
Can any of you out there help me?

Following some reflections with my wrong header:

___________________________________________________________________
> Newsgroups: de.test
> Path: joker!horga!Germany.EU.net!ppgfr!ipx04!news
> From: news@ipx04 ()
> Subject: please one reply II.
> Message-ID: <1992Nov13.090221.14242@ppgfr.uucp>
> Sender: news@ppgfr.uucp
> Nntp-Posting-Host: ipx04
> Reply-To: news@ppgfr.uucp
> Organization: PPG Hellige, Freiburg, GERMANY
> X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 09:02:21 GMT
> Lines: 2
Path:  stasys!sungy!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!sun-barr!ames!network.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!nntp-server.caltech.edu!ira.uka.de!Germany.EU.net!ppgfr!ipx04!news
     Newsgroups:  de.test
   Distribution:  [no Distribution: line in your article]
        Subject:  please one reply II.
     Message-Id:  <1992Nov13.090221.14242@ppgfr.uucp>
           Date:  13 Nov 92 09:02:21 GMT
   Organization:  PPG Hellige, Freiburg, GERMANY


Thank in advance. Please email your answer to me: news@ppgr.uucp 

Roman Schwartz 
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: sergio@Ingres.COM (Sergio L Aponte)
Subject: Re: Tin: Why so slow on Solbourne?
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company, Alameda CA 94501
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Distribution: net
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:34:50 GMT

	Question 1) Over NNTP or local spool?

	Question 2) Run on debug? Or dbx? Maybe if you can narrow down
	were the wait is it might be easier to fix...

Nancy Milligan (npm@dale.cts.com) wrote:
: I'm running Tin 1.16 on a variety of machines from low-end sparcstations,
: a couple of MIPS, even some Apollos and now at long last I've compiled
: it for our Solbourne. 
: 
: The performance is reasonable on all the machines except for the Solbourne.
: The Solbourne is fairly heavily loaded, but it isn't horribly slow even
: with the load it is carrying.  However, when Tin starts up and reads the
: active file it takes about 1 1/2 minutes before it paints the Group
: Selection screen.  It takes maybe 5-10 seconds on all the other machines
: we use.
: 
: Anyone have any ideas why I'm having such a performance problem on the
: Solbourne?  
: 
: Running version 4.0D of the OS and it has two (maybe three) Sparc processors.
: Average load average is around 2.0.
: --
: Nancy P. Milligan 				npm@dale.cts.com
: Titan Linkabit					cts!dale!npm
: 3033 Science Park Road
: San Diego, CA 92121
: -- 
: Mme. News Goddess
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: sergio@Ingres.COM (Sergio L Aponte)
Subject: Re: Tin: Why so slow on Solbourne?
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company, Alameda CA 94501
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Distribution: net
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:11:15 GMT

	No, but I would make sure that, if you don't have the NNTP extensions
	installed, you tell it so by defineing NO_NNTP_EXTS (PL6) or 
	DONT_HAVE_NNTP_EXTS (PL7), to make sure Tin doesn't waste any time
	looking for them.

	Testing the NNTP outside of Tin is possible, but I am not the best
	versed. I think you can start a connection and send requests interactive
	but you better ask NNTP gurus...

Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: GILMART@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Paul Gilmartin)
Subject: Re: Tin and OpenWindows
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:16:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.142945.5751@ucthpx.uct.ac.za>
brendt@dip3.ee.uct.ac.za (Brendt Wohlberg) writes:
 
>I'm currently using Tin 1.1 PL6 on a SUN sparc2 running OpenWindows 3, but am
>having problems with the Tin window clearing itself whenever it should refresh
>(such as when it a window which partially or completely obscured it is moved
>away.) This doesn't happen when I run Tin from an xterm.
>
>Is this a known bug, or is it a problem with OpenWindows?
>Any suggestions? Does 1.1 PL7 have the same problem?
 
When I reported these symptoms to Iain, he replied to me that tin
catches the SIGWINCH signal supplied by Sun OS.  Unable to provide
further evidence of the problem, much less to volunteer a source patch,
I continued to use this excellent newsreader, pressing ^L when necessary.
 
However, perhaps your observation, and that of
hakanl@lulea.trab.se (H}kan Lennest}l) in message
<5247@morvyth.lulea.trab.se> will provide the evidence to Iain that
a problem remains.
 
Thanks, Iain,
-- gil
From: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net (Iain Lea)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: help needed on from-header
Date: 17 Nov 92 06:34:33 GMT
Reply-To: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net
Organization: TIN Support
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

news@ipx04 wrote:
: 
: We are using inews, NNTP, some use tin 1.1PL4.
: 
: Who builds the From-Header? CNews or tin?
: Can any of you out there help me?

You need to upgrade tin to at least PL5 which will then allow you
to give a gateway machine address for the From: header.

For example you would add -DNNTP_INEWS_GATEWAY=\"ppgfr.uucp\"
to CFLAGS in the Makefile before compiling.

Iain

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From: npm@dale.cts.com (Nancy Milligan)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Tin: Why so slow on Solbourne?
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:58:30 GMT
Organization: Titan Linkabit Corporation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I'm running Tin 1.16 on a variety of machines from low-end sparcstations,
a couple of MIPS, even some Apollos and now at long last I've compiled
it for our Solbourne. 

The performance is reasonable on all the machines except for the Solbourne.
The Solbourne is fairly heavily loaded, but it isn't horribly slow even
with the load it is carrying.  However, when Tin starts up and reads the
active file it takes about 1 1/2 minutes before it paints the Group
Selection screen.  It takes maybe 5-10 seconds on all the other machines
we use.

Anyone have any ideas why I'm having such a performance problem on the
Solbourne?  

Running version 4.0D of the OS and it has two (maybe three) Sparc processors.
Average load average is around 2.0.
--
Nancy P. Milligan 				npm@dale.cts.com
Titan Linkabit					cts!dale!npm
3033 Science Park Road
San Diego, CA 92121
-- 
Mme. News Goddess
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: greg@serveme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik)
Subject: Re: batch mode readers
Organization: Gagme Public Access Unix, Chicago, Illinois
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:45:11 GMT

In article <1dst4qINNgjk@agate.berkeley.edu> jp1ek@sunc.shef.ac.uk writes:
>which, if any, of the commonly available readers can be used in
>batch mode (command line mode)?

I wrote a couple simple tools that do this, but only with
an NNTP server.  They're called 'nntptools' and were posted
a couple months ago to alt.sources (with an announcement here).

Several of my users here on Gagme use it.  Heck, they demanded it!
They like to run a cron job every day, match articles they want
to read with grep, and mail the whole set of articles to their accounts.

If you can't find it on your local alt.sources archive, let 
me know and I'll mail you a shar file.  It's not very long.

-greg

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk)
Subject: Re: batch mode readers
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 11:18:21 GMT

>>I am not sure what you want a batch newsreader for, other than to do
>>batch gathering of articles or filtering of a .newsrc?
>>
>>Two tools I have written, newsclip and dynafeed, available on ftp.clarinet.com,
>>can do these tasks.
>>-- 
>>Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Sunnyvale, CA 408/296-0366
>
>i want something that can be run from a cron script to mail
>newsgroups to me.
>-- 

Why?


-- 
Richard Foulk		richard@pegasus.com
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: jbrock@csfb1.fir.fbc.com (John E. Brock)
Subject: xrn won`t add "Lines:" to my header!  Why?
Reply-To: uunet!csfb1!jbrock
Organization: First Boston Corporation
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:56:42 GMT

When I post an article to the net, xrn usually (but not always!)
neglects to add a "Lines:" line to my header.  When I view the article
later (using xrn again) what I see is [?] where the number of lines
should be (in the xrn display, not in my header).

Does anyone know what is going on?  I am running on a SPARCstation IPX,
and because I use vi while most people here use emacs I start up xrn
like this:

xrn -editorCommand "xterm -geometry 80x43 -e vi %s"

What really bugs me is that sometimes it works right!!!

-- 
John Brock
uunet!csfb1!jbrock
jbrock@csfb1.fir.fbc.com
From: npm@dale.cts.com (Nancy Milligan)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Tin: Why so slow on Solbourne?
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:46:43 GMT
Organization: Titan Linkabit Corporation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Sergio L Aponte (sergio@Ingres.COM) wrote:
: 	Question 1) Over NNTP or local spool?
: 
: 	Question 2) Run on debug? Or dbx? Maybe if you can narrow down
: 	were the wait is it might be easier to fix...
: 

Good questions.  Yes, over NNTP on a local ethernet.  It's happening
when the code is  retrieving the active file from the NNTP server.  It
appears to be happening in, or under,  the function read_active_file(),
and under that open_active_fp().  Also, connecting to the server is 
pretty slow.

Who knows, maybe this is a painfully slow segment of the network.  Do
you have any ideas on how I might see if the problem is the network and
not the code or machine?
--
Nancy P. Milligan 				npm@dale.cts.com
Titan Linkabit					cts!dale!npm
3033 Science Park Road
San Diego, CA 92121
From: ccsmh@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk (Mark Harding)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Can I get TRN to KILL silently?
Date: 18 Nov 92 08:00:30 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK

The subject says it all.

I have a number of KILL files floating around but I'd rather that the KILL
was done transparently.

Can this be done??

Cheers, Mark
From: mho@tricia (Michael Hopp)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: A few questions to tin...
Date: 22 Nov 1992 17:28:01 GMT
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: tricia.cs.tu-berlin.de
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Iain Lea (Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net) wrote:
: Daniel Huber (danielh@hpber010.swiss.hp.com) wrote:
: :
: : - How can I use my own pager (less) within tin?
: 
: You're out of luck.
: 

How about '| a less' while article viewing?


--

mho@cs.tu-berlin.de         - A thing like this can warp his mind for life -
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Looking for schools reading USENET
From: arogers@eis.calstate.edu (Al Rogers)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:06:17 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

I'm looking for schools in the United States which are reading
Usenet on a LAN.  Please let me know if you know of any of these.

Thanks.

Al Rogers
FrEdMail Foundation
San Diego, California
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: NT Reader Available?
From: Flint.Waters@uwyo.edu (Flint Waters)
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:49:26 MST
Distribution: news.software.readers,world
Organization: University of Wyoming
Keywords: NT
Summary: Well?

Is there a news reader available for Windows NT?
From: mjo@slee01.srl.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Wanted: good nntp text-based reader for ultrix
Date: 16 Nov 1992 18:14:38 GMT
Organization: Not an official spokesperson for Ford Motor Co.
Reply-To: "Mike O'Connor" <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: slee01.srl.ford.com

In article <14NOV199216393127@cc.utah.edu> aefros@cc.utah.edu (ALEXEI
(ALYOSHA) EFROS, JR -- (801) 272-5948) writes:

:I am installing NNTP news and I am looking for a good newsreader which could
:run in text mode and be compiled under ultrix. (I tried to compile vnews
:but somehow it didn't work). Could anyone please reccomend me something
:besides rrn...

I suggest getting Tin 1.17, available for anonymous FTP from the usual
we-have-em-all FTP archives.

						...Mike

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From: hakanl@lulea.trab.se (H}kan Lennest}l)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: tin and openwin
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:18:47 GMT
Organization: Telia Research AB, Aurorum 6, 951 75 Lulea, Sweden
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 + PL4

news@ipx04 writes:
: Hi folks,
: is there something to be cautious, when using tin under openwin? Is it ok
: to start tin in openwin with only %tin or %tin & ?
: 
: Any tricks?
: 
: Thank you in advance, please email to
: news@ppgfr.uucp 
: 
: Roman Schwartz (postmaster)

Tin does behave somewhat strange when started in a shelltool. 
If you close and then open up the window or place another window 
(partially) above your shelltool window the screen will be cleared
and has to be redrawn (with ^L).
To avoid this use xterm instead.

/H}kan
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