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From: larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way)
Subject: Re: magazine index
Organization: New Mexico State University, MetaPhysical Science Laboratory
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:54:29 GMT

In article <Bs24nt.Jqw@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
   In article <shane.07l9@peeker.uucp> shane@peeker.uucp (Shane R. McCarthy) writes:
   >> If no one has created one maybe we can collectively create one.
   >
   >
   >   I was pondering the same question.  My interest is in planes thou.
   >Anyone out there come across an index in ASCII for R/C planes.

   *!IDEA!*

   I'll start something for C/L articles. Quite a bit less ground to cover. 

Think so, eh? Well, I haven't seen the same for R/C articles, but PAMPA
(Precision Aerobatics Model Pilots Association) has what they call a
Bibliography data base, with hundreds of articles on construction,
engines, finish, tips and ships. Virtually everything ever published in
the USA on stunt. Its listing runs many pages of small type; best of all,
you can order copies of virtually everything on the list, about 25 cents
per page I believe. The magazine articles go back to the late 40s.

Just another good reason to be in PAMPA. Membership is over 800 strong
now, worldwide, and it has a great bi-monthly newsletter. Email me or post
a request if you want me to post their address and info. Membership fee is
only $15 a year. Iskandar sounds like a perfect candidate for PAMPA: some 
combat cat named Phil Ganderson is editor of The Stunt News..

L.
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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: R/C Glider crashing!
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 02:45:53 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.214510.25304@cs.aukuni.ac.nz> mken1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Mark Steven         Kendall        ) writes:


>The same day as this I got quite a
>bad scare with my glider on the launch, it decided that it would do sea-gull
>impersonations and flap its wings a hell of a lot, I thought it was going to
>fall to bits there and then.  This doesn't bother me any more but it's good to
>watch the expression on an experienced pilots face when you go into a dive to
>pick some speed up for loops etc and the wings start to really flap!


Hmmm OK...

I remember my first Combat meet ever (where I actually beat Bob Bearden
in my first ever Fast Combat match). Someone flew a foamie in Fast that 
had apparently been repaired one time too many. Halfway through the match
it started flopping around in the turns and the wings started to flap.
The thing eventually came apart altogether. 

I also remember an incident at last year's Nats where Mike Wilcox blew
the outboard wing off his Arrowplane from just flying level. Those Texas
Foxes are really fast!

Some years ago some person was flying a foamie in Slow when he got bumped
by the other plane. His plane immediately shed its wings and ended up 
impaled in the soft ground like an arrow. Back then foamies had a really
bad reputation for shedding wings. They don't anymore thank goodness..
we've learned to make em better.



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From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: Re: Hover achieved... with my Glider!
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:03:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.090149.12274@rice.edu> rusty@masc.rice.edu ( Robert 
Kelley) writes:
>I would like to call the net's attention to the line beginning, "I did 
>have one nasty surprise, though."  This actually translates into about ten 
>lines of mostly uninformative gibberish.  Will whoever this person's sysadmin 
>is either compel it to mend its ways or remove it from the net?  RSK

When I read my own post off the net, it was fine, with no corruption at 
all.  Perhaps there's a problem at your end.

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From: minear@sctc.com (Spence Minear)
Subject: Re: How to dispose of NiCads?
Organization: SCTC
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:32:16 GMT

This is directed at how to properly treat NiCads to avoid having to
dispose early.  I'm new with RC.  I know enough about NiCads to know
they should not be "light" cycled which will result in a burned in
light cycle memory.

The person that is helping me learn to fly has a box that he made from
an artical in an RC publication some time in the past that he plugs in
to the battary pack via the charger connection, but will discharge the
pack to a fixed limit.  Unfortuantely he could not have the article.
And though the circuit is simple, I was unable to identify all of the
components to my satisfaction.

To my questions.

  1. Does anyone know the reference to the article?
  2. Do people have an opinions on the use of such a device?  
  3. Do people have other recommendations on the proper treatment of
     the battaries.  Like after returning home do you turn on the
     equipment and let it run for a couple of hours to ensure cycle
     before recharging for the next days outing?

I expect some of these issues are discussed in the FAQ sheet, I have read it
once, but lost both my hardcopy, and its net location, and do not
recall its contents well enough to feel that I am handeling my new
equipment properly.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

      Spencer E. Minear           Secure Computing Corp.
      minear@sctc.com         1210 West County Rd E, Suite 100           
			        Arden Hills, MN  55112-3739
                                     (612) 482-7440
From: torsten@rnivh.rni.sub.org (Torsten Leibold)
Newsgroups: rec.models.rc
Subject: Re: Kit Info
Date: 24 Jul 92 11:05:46 GMT
Organization: Rhein-Neckar-Informationsdienst Viernheim

djones@iex.iex.com writes:

>Has anyone in netland had experience with any of the following
>kits:

>- Pica FW-190D
>- Midwest Corsair
>- Wing Mfg (Any short kit)
>- Balsa USA Bristol
>- Balsa USA P-51
>- Royal Corsair (any size)
>- Royal Bearcat

No, not yet. But I'd love to hear about them too !!
Especially about those P-51 kits.

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From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.models.rc
Subject: Hamilton Hobbies
Date: 24 Jul 92 23:54:20 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Hello All!

Sorry to say, but I have closed the doors on Hamilton Hobbies. Since I hold
a full time job and then worked the shop the rest of the time, it was
consuming my entire life, and didn't make enough money to hire an employee.
So, I decided to close shop and go back to playing and having a life of my
own.

If anyone believes I owe them anything, please contact me by direct email.
I will make good on any backorders. You will have to have a receipt in order
to request a refund. Refunds will be made by check (they cannot be made as
a credit card credit memo, because the merchant account has been terminated).

Thanks to everyone who made purchases, so far as you've all told me, you were
happy with the service/merchandise, and thats all thats important!

John

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From: cwatters@acorn.co.uk (Colin Watters)
Newsgroups: rec.models.rc
Subject: Re: The end is Ni
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:35:04 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

In article <BrotJH.KJD@world.std.com> jlw@world.std.com (James L Walker) writes:

>... stuff deleted...
> For that matter what is the environmental impact of NiCads.
>
>-- Les Walker
>-- High Flyers
      
The theory is: People throw NiCads out with the rubish and the cells corrode on the
tip and Cadmium leaches into the water table. If you visit the library and look up
Cadmium in the books on health and safety you find Cadmium poisining leads to a
horrible death.

I am extremely careful with my nicads and if I ever have the misfortune to blow
one up in my workshop I will shut the door and call the fire brigade. I expect
they would treat my workshop as if it were lined with blue asbestos dust.

Colin

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From: robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg)
Newsgroups: rec.models.rc
Subject: Re: R/C Glider crashing!
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:51:45 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

I have had plenty of crashes in my first 4 hours of flying (slope soaring, in  
my case). The most humiliating was in strong erratic wind - I threw it out and  
while I fumbled to gain control, it jumped right over my had and nosed into the  
ground _behind_ me.

We sure crash a lot of planes on Milagra Ridge (I know, speak for myself!).  
Yesterday I found a sheared-off 2-foot section of foam wing in a ditch there.

Amazingly, my Super Cheetah has been handling the crashes with great  
resiliency! Repair times have been reasonably brief (even from dead-in nose  
crunchers), often just tape-and-glue work in the field. The Duralene fuse is  
everything it's cracked up (bad choice of words :>) to be.

I did manage to _avoid_ a likely crash the other day, though - flying with a  
low ceiling of fog, my plane completely disappeared for about 10 seconds in a  
cloud. ("Let's see, where is that plane likely to reappear??") I refrained from  
touching my controls until it reappeared and then brought it back on course.

Rob
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From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Props
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:36:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.222910.27329@iex.uucp> djones@iex.iex.com writes:
|Can anyone explain in layman's terms what and or how one decides
|which prop is proper for a particular engine or plane/engine combination.
|In trying to get my Surpass 40 on my Flair Magnatillia broken in and running I
|am trying various props. I started with a 11x6 Antique prop but the engine
|didn't seem to be able to turn it very well. I am going to try a 11x5w, and did
|try a 10x7. Isn't a 10x7 essentially the same thing as a 11x6? What does it
|mean (from a practical standpoint) to 'go up in diameter and down in pitch or
|visa versa'?

"Double the diameter and add the pitch" is an old rule of thumb that I use to
determine engine loading.  So an 11x6 prop produces a "load index" of 28, as
does a 10x8, so those props will give approximately the same engine load.  Note
that a lower pitch prop will unload in the air more than a higher pitch 
prop (with the same load index), and will make the airplane fly more slowly,
and climb more positively.

Changing prop brands will skew this rule a bit, because different airfoils,
blade widths and planforms will produce different drag.

|Can't wait to build my SE5a!!

Cool!  Tell us about it.

			Dave Svoboda, Palatine, IL
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From: rob@phoenix.erc.clarkson.edu (Rob Logan)
Subject: consept 10
Reply-To: rob@phoenix.erc.clarkson.edu.rob
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:34:12 GMT

The consept 10 does "exploded" in mid air. The consept 10 has enough
power to do most things when you wildly spin the head (like all helis)
but when I was flying slowly stright and level the plastic root blade
holder riped off the main shaft.. The damage was minimal considering,
but it was strange to see the heli just fold inflight.

I like the consept 10, but watch the overspeed of the head.

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From: larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way)
Subject: Re: Vintage Stunt Championships
Organization: New Mexico State University, MetaPhysical Science Laboratory
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:15:38 GMT

In article <Bs2606.L5D@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:

   Hi all

   Did anyone else notice our own Cowboy Larry's picture in
   the latest Flying Models? He's holding his Roadrunner. Lyman
   Lew also got mentioned in the same article but didn't get 
   a picture. Hmmmm....maybe I ought to build something and 
   make next years'? It is one heckuva drive though...

Garsh. I was hoping no one would see that - me having trouble with my
engine and all. Take a look at Colonel Gary Marchand's picture on the 
next page or so, to get a better look at the RoadRunner, done up in yellow 
with New Mexico zia symbols in red on the wings. The ship was designed by
Bill Melton and Jim Young, and later published in March 1967 MAN. We had
Bill along with us at VSC IV to honor the occasion of its 25th year,
making it VSC eligible.

Lyman's ship was finished in orange, with K&B .40. Gary's was yellow, and
mine was dark red. Actually we had a fourth ship by Mark Bowen, in black,
which had a misunderstanding with a Las Cruces dust devil two days before
we went to Arizona.

BTW, Iskandar, there is a large East Coast Vintage contest too. You might
check into it - seems like it was in Atlanta maybe. (Don't quote me,
though..) 

FM Editor Bob Hunt himself arranged us a copy of "original" MAN plans 
(well, the first page anyway) for the RoadRunner. Just in case you wanted 
to build one - they are a great ship, with 620 square inch wing,
originally designed for a Fox .35. I would send you a copy of the plan 
if you got serious about it.

L.
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From: som@angelo.amd.com (Somnath Viswanath)
Newsgroups: rec.models.rc
Subject: 1991 Gold Sticker on R/C
Keywords: Conversion to narrow band, 1991 Standard
Date: 25 Jul 92 23:25:28 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Santa Clara, CA

Hi Everybody,

	I am just starting of in R/C and have an old TOWER Hobbies 
	6 channel AM Radio. Most clubs require the Radio to have a 
	1991 sticker (GOLD). Tower Hobbies apparently do not modify 
	the set. 

	Is there any where else I can get my set modified ?

	Is it worth it ? Some of the new sets are approx. $130-$160.

	Any thoughts ? 


		- Thanks,

				Somnath Viswanath
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From: r36110m@kaira.hut.fi (Mika Matti Jalava)
Subject: Re: R/C Glider crashing!
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 08:50:16 GMT


Well, I haven't had more than one "real" crash that caused more damage
than could be repaired in five minutes yet (my flying experience is so
short that repairing the plane took much more time, about three hours,
than i've spent in the air).

It was last winter and my wife had just landed the Blue Phoenix (a
Swedish 2-m trainer) upside down. The only damage was that the
covering on the left wing was slightly ripped and I decided we could
just tape it and continue.

Of course the wing wasn't too rigid and it wasn't in it's right shape,
so next time we towed it up it became totally uncontrollable (for me,
that is). The wind was too strong for me and the plane started looping
around and finally started to dive upside down at about 30 degrees
angle. I tried everything I could, but nothing seemed to have any
effect. It hit the frozen ground (of course there would have been snow
everywhere else but it just decided to aim at a tractor track) left
wing first.

I would never have believed that so light thing made of balsa and
plastic film could make such a bang. The crash was really loud and I
thought nothing could be saved. To my great surprise the left wing was
the only thing that was really damaged. Or actually destroyed, the
balsta sticks were too short to be used as toothpicks. The fuselage,
tail, rest of the wing and the receiver and servos were intact.
Beginner's luck, I would say!

	Mika


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From: skyert@vccnorthd.its.rpi.edu (Tory Marlon Howard Skyers)
Subject: Indoor RC/Cars
Reply-To: skyert@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:18:00 GMT

I have been reading for a whle but just never posted anything, but now as the winter approaches, i need to know if anyone in the Troy, New York area knows
of any indoor on road or off road tracks, I am not new to the hobby, but have been away for a while so these "new tecnology" things are quite new to me.

I own a lynx II elite and i am currently thinking of going offroad, would someone
like to buy a slightly used lynx II elite and an rc10l??? the lynx has a Novack 
T1x (vintage i know, but it works flawlessly) and the 10l is equipped with a mnechanical speed control. The 10l is like a test bed for adjustments and modifications done to the lynx so the 10l is in worse shape than the lynx
I have a mangnum 2pd AM and a magnum junior both with the stock futaba receivers
These cars are not in the best condition in the world but the run, and quit fast too i have won quite a few trophies with them both. I will ask about 300 for both cars both transmitters and 4 1400 scr 6 cell packs. (sound fair ??) they are bith in running condition sans bodies but they are easy to come by so please think about it, i will also throw in my JRX-2 which has been heavily modified, bu has no body speed ctrl or motor. it has four tires and a lite sink but it needs help, ie front shocks and some b

earings so i will throw that in for nothing.

I also have a Victor Hi Iq sr for sale*sob sob* I need money for school so the victor has to go i bought it for about 489 but now i see the prices have fallen
The unit is in TIP TOP shape as it is the prize of my RC outfit. I will ask about 300 negt. 

I think that is all i have at the moment, but if anyone is interested in a field box (rc car field box that is) i also have one that is heavily modified. It has two transformers wired in parrallel for about 15 amps@13 volts it has two fans to cool each transformer seperately, it also has a teckin bc 100l integrated into the box. a draw and a storage hatch for tires and such, it can hoold one car (with a flexible antenna) and radia and all the gear you need to run the car ie motors batteries tires and lathe

 and such. It has banana plugs for the Hi IQ and any other charger you wnat to plug in, and it has banana plug output for the tekin to charge your batteries on top of the fan( an added benifit of having fans) the box costs 100 dollars and the charger was 70 so in order to recoup my investment i will sell it for 150, with everything except tools and spare parts.
mail skyert@rpi.edu with any questions !!
Thanx Tory Skyers


skyert@rpi.edu 
Keywords: 

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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Newsgroups: rec.models.rc,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: How to dispose of NiCads?
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:31:28 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

In article <1992Jul29.084514@ufps9.unifr.ch> waeber@ufps9.unifr.ch (Bernard Waeber SIUF) writes:

>The point is : You better know what you're doing, when trying to recover a 
>	       dead Ni-Cd cell.
>
>	       Guess your plane or heli is worth more, opposed to the 20 bucks
>	       for a new Ni-Cd pack.

I agree.

There are other uses for nicads, though, like power panels, cars and boats,
and for propulsion.





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From: jlw@world.std.com (James L Walker)
Subject: Re: filler materials, striping monocoat
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:19:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.162352.27383@adp.uucp> kevinc@adp.uucp (Kevin Cherek) writes:
>
>Hi,

...

>Also, what kind of filler materials would modelers out there recommend?
>This is strictly for balsa and not for exotic materials like carbon
>fiber or whatever.
>
>Thanks,
>- kev -

The problem with most filler materials is that they dry so hard that
when you sand them you get more of the wood around the filler than the
filler itself.  I've found that NHP microfil is soft enough that this
doesn't happen.  The only drawbacks are a) you have to seal it in
order dope over it and b) you need to wear a mask when you sand it.

-- Les Walker
-- High Flyers
From: billg@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Bill Gingras)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:43:10 GMT
Subject: Re: Lunch-Time Slope in Palo Alto Area
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.models.rc


Not "people flying slope on their lunch breaks."  Rather "Slope planes
being flown by people on their lunch breaks." :-) 

- Bill G

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From: th@hawkmoon.mn.org (Tim Heimerl)
Subject: WANTED:  r/c car and plane equipment
Keywords: r/c
Organization: Semi-Public System (One of the Eternal Champions); Eagan, MN, 55123-2507, USA
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:19:32 GMT

Just like the subject states, r/c car and plane equipment wanted.
Send your asking price and specs and I will reply.

thank you

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