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From: wytten@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (Dale Wyttenbach)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: PC Atlas import (was Re: Can ARC/INFO...)
Date: 31 Dec 92 18:47:52 GMT
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Organization: University of Minnesota

In <sheldon.725739692@pv141b.vincent.iastate.edu> sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon) writes:
> At least the DOS product, Atlas GIS/Pro is able to import Arc/Info files
>and use them.
> Caveat: The DOS based product imports Arc/Info files with only about 75%
>accuracy.  With some data it works, other data, forget it.

My experience is that Atlas will not read ARC/INFO export files that use any
form of compression.  It is also my understanding that Strategic Mapping
is changing their manual to mention this.

Dale Wyttenbach
wytten@cs.umn.edu
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From:         MR A D JONES <ajones@METZ.UNE.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: FTP
              92 4:49 pm

>
> Hi everybody...
>
> For those of you that have not disappeared already for Christmas, here is a
> little problem to keep you busy...
>
> Here at the Department of Archaeology (University of York, UK) we are
> trying to transfer a DXF file from AutoCAD 10 running on a PC to ARC/INFO 5.x
> running on SGI machines...
>
> This is an operation that has been carried out many times, without problem,
> but for some reason we have come up against a problem with one file.
>
> In the long standing tradition of software companies, AutoDesk deny all
> knowledge of any problem.  They insist it MUST be my fault, but of course
> can't tell me where I am going wrong!  Any thoughts from the network
> appreciated!
>
> The file in question is about 1Mb as a .dwg, growing to nearly 3Mb as an
> ASCII dxf file.  It DOES read back in to AutoCAD OK, but will NOT read in to
> ARC/INFO.
>
> The file was transferred to the SGI machines using Kermit (as we always do)
> in BINARY form.  When I ran DXFINFO from within ARC, the following was
 received:
>
> EOF encountered on [filename]
>
> LAYER NAME   ARCS   POINTS   TEXT   ATTRIB   INSERT   etc etc
> -----------  ----   ------   ----   ------    -----   --------------------
> -----------  -----  ------   ----   ------    -----    -----------------------
>
> ALL LAYERS     0       0       0        0       0      etc etc
>
>
> I have tried this transfer several times, but without success.  Other (very
> similar) files transfer perfectly happily using exactly the same techniques...
>
> WHAT might be the problem with THIS file? Is it soluble?  What ever happened
 to
> pen and paper?  We must be nuts using GIS...
>
>
> MERRY CHRISTMAS!
>
> Paul Miller
> Department of Archaeology               apm9@vaxa.york.ac.uk
> University of York                      +44 904 636731 ext 38
> Micklegate House
> 88 Micklegate
> YORK
> YO1 1JZ
> UK
>
Paul,

I had the same problem here.

My solution was to find a micro with Autocad Version 11, read in the DXF file,
and then write it back out as a DXF file.  This was the situation with PC
Arc/Info which looked for Autocad Version 11 format files.  I do not
know if the same applies to work stations.  The format of various data sets
change from one version to another and it takes time for other vendors to catch
up.  In some cases thay are even ahead.  I hope it works.

Alan Jones
Geography & Planning
University of New England
Armidale
NSW 2351 Australia
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Date:         Thu, 24 Dec 1992 08:43:26 CST
From:         Alan Rea <gwdokokl!ahrea@MAILHOST.ECN.UOKNOR.EDU>
Subject: Re: USA--biol. survey

>I'm a biologist working on vertebrate population dynamics.  I'd
>like to map interspecific patterns of pop. dynamics of animals found
>in the continental US onto a variety of biogeographical variables,
>including weather patterns, altitude, vegetation type, and so forth.
>
>Two questions.  1)  Is such a thing possible with GIS? (I have
>not used GIS applications before).   2) What sort of general
>information is available for the entire US, and how would one
>access it?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>Daniel Promislow

1. Sounds like GIS is the tool you should be using.

2. Lots of data are available, depending on what scale you wish to
operate at.  You might start with a call to 1-800-USA-MAPS, from
which you can get ordering information and descriptions of the USGS
digital map products.  I know there is a CD-ROM out with all the DLGs
(Digital Line Graphs -- a vector file format) on it for the US.  Also,
I believe there is a DEM (Digital Elevation Model) available covering
the entire US.

Again, a lot depends on what scale you are dealing with.  If you want to
look at maps that cover the continental US on an 8.5 X 11 page, (around
1:7,500,000) you are talking about something that is easily doable.  On
the other hand, if you want to map the US at 1:24,000, you are going to
need a BIG computer (and a lot of help).

Also, get a copy of the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) list for this
mailing list.  I can send you a copy if you don't know how to get one.

Good luck,


ahrea@gwdokokl.UUCP (Alan Rea) * "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those
 "opinions are my own..."      *  who falsely believe they are free" -- Goethe
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 10:03:50 CST
From:         Alan Rea <gwdokokl!ahrea@MAILHOST.ECN.UOKNOR.EDU>
Subject:      Key Map geocoding software?

Last week, while 'doing time' at a shopping mall while other family
members were doing last minute Christmas shopping, I was browsing
through the PC software store, and a package called "Key Map" caught
my eye.  It claims to do geocoding, and supposedly contains maps
for the entire US.  The description on the box was not very specific
about what sort of scale maps they were talking about, but made the
claim that the package could geocode any address in the US to within
something like 30 meters!

The blurb on the package also talked about city maps that could be
added (sold separately, of course), and emphasized their 'open' data
structure that allowed users to easily add their own data sets.

Having tried to do some geocoding before using ARC/INFO and TIGER
files, I find it hard to believe that a $50 package like this can
actually contain enough data (out of the box, that is) to geocode to
the accuracy claimed for the entire US, but perhaps the package does
provide an inexpensive and open approach to geocoding that would serve
the purposes of many users.

Does anyone have more details about the Key Map package, and the
functionality it provides?  In particular, such a package would be of
interest to me if it allowed easy access to geocoding, especially if
it has a sufficiently open approach and allows input from large input
lists stored in files, rather than just interactive input.



ahrea@gwdokokl.UUCP (Alan Rea) * "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those
 "opinions are my own..."      *  who falsely believe they are free" -- Goethe
From: koolish@BBN.COM (Richard M. Koolish)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: anybody doing own DCW program
Date: 24 Dec 1992 23:16:25 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
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Is anybody out there writing their own program to read DCW data
instead of using vpfview?
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From: gairns@ccrs.emr.ca (Seamus)
Subject: How do I get a copy of GRASS  ?
Organization: Canada Centre for Remote Sensing, Ottawa
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 23:19:44 GMT

	The subject says it all ... how do I get a copy of GRASS ?
	Is is public domain ?  If so, where can I download it from ?

Thanks a lot,
   Jamie Gairns
	gairns@ccrs.emr.ca
-- 

		Have you had your AB negative today ??


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From: keane@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Matthews Keane)
Subject: Re: FTP
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 14:01:56 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

There are actually 2 flavours of ZIP out.  One is PKUNZIP - a
shareware program which is flexible and fast.  The other is unzip.exe
which is, I believe PD.  unzip.exe is fully compatible with PKUNZIP,
but not vice versa.... unzip now exists on many platforms and thus has
a couple small differences.  If you are having problems - get it via
ftp from most sites, including info.umd.edu or oak.oakland.edu
Cheers
Chris

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From: sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon)
Subject: Re: Can ARC/INFO data be used on a MAC ? ?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:21:32 GMT

In <C030oE.CID@ra.nrl.navy.mil> jc@i5120h.nrl.navy.mil (J. Clark) writes:

>Happy New Year All ....

>I have a question posed by some of our research types -

>Can ARC/INFO (latest version) data be used on the MAC ?  Is there an
>ARC/INFO for the mac or a different software package ?  Does any
>format conversion need to be done ..?

>Thanks for any thoughts/experiences

>John


 I'm not certain about the Mac package, but you might wish to look into
Atlas from Strategic Mapping.

 At least the DOS product, Atlas GIS/Pro is able to import Arc/Info files
and use them.

 Caveat: The DOS based product imports Arc/Info files with only about 75%
accuracy.  With some data it works, other data, forget it.

 Again, I'm not sure what the Mac version comes with in terms of import
routines, but it's worth looking into.
-- 
sheldon@iastate.edu                Steve Sheldon
Project Vincent                    ICSS Resource Unit
SCO ODT, Arc/Info, Atlas GIS       2142 Agronomy Hall
                                   Iowa State University
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From:         Michael Gould <imike@ALCALA.ES>
Subject:      IMPACT 2 PROPOSALS

Hello European Community netters:

Some or all of you are now aware of the EC research program,
under the rubric of IMPACT 2, which will award 30 grants to
support information services implementation using GIS.

The purpose of this note is to alert you of the agencies, private
companies, and others within SPAIN who are currently preparing or
thinking about preparing proposals.

Two items to keep in mind are: 1) Spain now has several *entities*
which are quite experienced in spatial data collection and publishing,
and 2) Spain is a "less favoured nation", which ironically means it
is more favored when it comes to receiving EC monies...

Please contact me if you are interested in joining with any of these
spanish "partners" in an IMPACT 2 proposal.  There are certainly other
partners left off my list, but here are some...

Insituto Geografico Nacional (IGN) = publishes national cart data
CGCCT (national cadastral center) = prepares/publishes national, digital
                                    cadastral data
Agencia de Medio Ambiente de Andalucia (AMA) = environmental agency with
                        several years experience in spatail data mgmt
ESRI-Espana Geosistemas = ESRI-Spain, with connections in offices around
                the world, and experience in large-scale data publishing
Universidad Complutense de Madrid = huge (130,000 students) central Univ
                with several departments working on GIS / IT issues
Servicio Geografico del Ejercito = Spain's defense mapping agency
Instituto Tecnologico GeoMinero de Espana = Spain's geological survey
Collom, Oller, y asociados = spanish Genasys representative

=======================================================================
Please send comments directly to me, as I have UNSUBed from GIS-L
for the holidays.

Cheers, and happy holidays to all.

Michael Gould
Universidad de Alcala de Henares (Madrid)

e-mail: IMIKE@alcala.es
FAX:    +34 1 593 28 36
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From: cogs1@slate.mines.colorado.edu (THOEN WILLIAM )
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Subject: Re: How do I get a copy of GRASS  ?
Date: 30 Dec 92 05:22:07 GMT
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gairns@ccrs.emr.ca (Seamus) writes:
: 
: 	The subject says it all ... how do I get a copy of GRASS ?
: 	Is is public domain ?  If so, where can I download it from ?
: 
: Thanks a lot,
:    Jamie Gairns
: 	gairns@ccrs.emr.ca

Try ftp to moon.cecer.army.mil (IP address 129.229.1.16)  It's all there.
Also, you might want to subscribe to one of the GRASS mailing lists,
grassu-list@moon.cecer.army.mil (for GRASS users), or
grassp-list@moon.cecer.army.mil (for GRASS programmers).  Also available on
USEnet as info.grass.users and info.grass.programmers.  Contact Melanie
Mayfield at mayfield@zorro.cecer.army.mil for more info.

Oh yeah, to subscribe to the above mailing lists, you have to send a
message to grassu-request@moon.cecer.army.mil (or the grassp-request
equivalent) and put SUB <your name> in either the subject field or on the
first line of the message.  Ask me more if you need help.  If you need a
port to the SGI machine, I can help you there.

- Bill Thoen
  cogs1@slate.mines.colorado.edu
or
  bthoen@csn.org
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Subject:      Re: Internet Resourses
              "SWB5108@TAMVENUS.BITN

Sarah,

A good source for information on Internet is: Zen and the ARt of the
Internet: A beginner's guide to the Internet. by Brendan Kehoe.  It is
probably available somewhere on the network. Someone will probably know
where to get it and will post the info to this list.  If not Brendan Kehoe's
Internet address is:  brendan@cs.widener.edu

Regards

Larry Lewis                          BITNET:   mfltl@ecnuxa.bitnet
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Western Illinois University
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    (309) 298-1648
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Hi Richard,

   I would like to get a copy of your summary.  Thanks!

Yuemin Ding
esriding@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
PS: I was not able to contat you through your account. Sorry for using the LIST.
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From: jc@i5120h.nrl.navy.mil (J. Clark)
Subject: Can ARC/INFO data be used on a MAC ? ?
Organization: NRL
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:02:38 GMT

Happy New Year All ....

I have a question posed by some of our research types -

Can ARC/INFO (latest version) data be used on the MAC ?  Is there an
ARC/INFO for the mac or a different software package ?  Does any
format conversion need to be done ..?

Thanks for any thoughts/experiences

John

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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 23:38:10 CST
From:         GE1164@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU
Subject:      Programs for constructing TIN and/or Voronoi diagram

Hello,

  Does anybody have a program or programs for constructing TIN and/or Voronoi
Digram (Thiessen Polygons) or know of a ftp site which may have such programs?
It could be in any language (C, Fortran, Pascal, Basic, Lisp etc. or may be som
e pseodo code). Any pointer is highly appreciated.

Qing-Wang Hao
Southern Illinois University
email: ge1164@siucvmb.siu.edu
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From:         Loki <APM9@VAXA.YORK.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: FTP

Hi everybody...

For those of you that have not disappeared already for Christmas, here is a
little problem to keep you busy...

Here at the Department of Archaeology (University of York, UK) we are
trying to transfer a DXF file from AutoCAD 10 running on a PC to ARC/INFO 5.x
running on SGI machines...

This is an operation that has been carried out many times, without problem,
but for some reason we have come up against a problem with one file.

In the long standing tradition of software companies, AutoDesk deny all
knowledge of any problem.  They insist it MUST be my fault, but of course
can't tell me where I am going wrong!  Any thoughts from the network
appreciated!

The file in question is about 1Mb as a .dwg, growing to nearly 3Mb as an
ASCII dxf file.  It DOES read back in to AutoCAD OK, but will NOT read in to
ARC/INFO.

The file was transferred to the SGI machines using Kermit (as we always do)
in BINARY form.  When I ran DXFINFO from within ARC, the following was received:

EOF encountered on [filename]

LAYER NAME   ARCS   POINTS   TEXT   ATTRIB   INSERT   etc etc
-----------  ----   ------   ----   ------    -----   --------------------
-----------  -----  ------   ----   ------    -----    -----------------------

ALL LAYERS     0       0       0        0       0      etc etc


I have tried this transfer several times, but without success.  Other (very
similar) files transfer perfectly happily using exactly the same techniques...

WHAT might be the problem with THIS file? Is it soluble?  What ever happened to
pen and paper?  We must be nuts using GIS...


MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Paul Miller
Department of Archaeology               apm9@vaxa.york.ac.uk
University of York                      +44 904 636731 ext 38
Micklegate House
88 Micklegate
YORK
YO1 1JZ
UK
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Subject:      Where is Mark Kumler

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Anyone know where to find a UCSB graduate named Mark Kumler?

Thanks in advance.

pshowalter@esri.com
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Perhaps it would be a good idea to re-instruct netters on the use
of the nomail command to stop email during the Holidays. I have tried
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Hallo all,

I tried to sign off my Name from the GIS-List. If I use the command set nomail
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Now I want to ask the List-Administrator what I have to do now.
If it is possible please signoff the following Mail addresses:

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Thank you very much in advance, nice holy days


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From: pjmg1@fel.tno.nl (Peter van Oosterom)
Subject: US 1980 census data
Keywords: census
Organization: TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 10:20:32 GMT

Is the complete 1980 US Census data available (by ftp)? I retrieved one
part from the ftp-site ftp.uu.net (pub/Census/Census.part1.Z), but cannot
find the other parts. 

We are working on a thematic maping demo with our Postgres-based GIS
called GEO++ (available on Suns; ftp: postgres.berkeley.edu; directory: /pub;
files: postgres-v4r0r1.tar.Z and geo.1.37.tar.Z).

Kind regards, Peter van Oosterom (email:oosterom@fel.tno.nl).
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 11:28:12 EST
From: <PROMISLO@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
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Subject:    USA--biol. survey

I'm a biologist working on vertebrate population dynamics.  I'd
like to map interspecific patterns of pop. dynamics of animals found
in the continental US onto a variety of biogeographical variables,
including weather patterns, altitude, vegetation type, and so forth.

Two questions.  1)  Is such a thing possible with GIS? (I have
not used GIS applications before).   2) What sort of general
information is available for the entire US, and how would one
access it?

Thanks in advance.
Daniel Promislow
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