From: Carolyn Knox-Quinn <cknoxq@JUPITER.WILLAMETTE.EDU>
Subject: Re: your mail
Reply-To: Multiple recipients of list MEXICO-L <MEXICO-L@TECMTYVM.BITNET>
Organization: Willamette U., Oregon
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:44:31 GMT

Regarding the following message I want to respond:
1. within ANY group large enough to be statistically significant there are
smart and dumb ones, good and bad ones etc
2. the scientific community rarely agrees on any specific facts, and has
never agreed on anything like the suggestions you made about african people.
3. you have bought a sad view of yourself and other non-white people.  All
people have talents and all people are uniquely valuable to the planet.
4. some older (WWII) scientists posited that there are three BASIC root
races from which all the others spring: european, oriental, african.  The
Euros are particularly good with using their brains, the orientals as
particularly talented at understanding the spirit/heart side of human
life, and the africans are particularly talented at knowling the world
through their bodies...I believe that all of us need to find a balance
across all three of these things.  No matter what our racial or cultural
origins, we need to be strong on all three of these levels.  No person can
be successful without all three.

On Wed, 9 Sep 1992 erv%UKC.AC.UK@TECMTYVM.MTY.ITESM.MX wrote:

> Hugo Gonzalez dijo en otro newsgroup:
> >
> >  From: hugoglez@well.sf.ca.us (Hugo Gonzalez)
> >  Subject: Re: Fuck You All
> >  Message-ID: <BuAowu.A4v@well.sf.ca.us>
> >  Date: 9 Sep 92 05:07:42 GMT
> >  Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us
> >  Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
> >
> >  I have received a lot of flame mail for what I said in response to Jeff.
> >  I thoght I should clear up some misconceptions.
> >
> >  I do not think all black people are "niggers".  I do think some black
 people
> >  are niggers, just as some white people are niggers.  It just happens that
> >  there are more black niggers than white niggers, thats all.  There is no
> >  reason for people to get upset about this.  It has been scientifically
 proven
> >  that black people are not as smart as white people, something to so with
> >  the size of the brain or genetics.  Do not flame me for this, as this is
> >  accepted as FACT in the scientific community.  If you don't belive me,
> >  look around you.  Look at how many balck people are on welfare.  Compare
> >  that to the number of white people on welfare.  The statistics will prove
> >  it.
> >
> >  Now you can choose to ignore the facts, or you can accept them.  I am not
> >  saying white people are superior, just smarter (genetically).
> >
> >  How many black people have become president?  Zero.  Some people took
> >  offense to the word "train" applied to black people.  Well, white
> >  people can be trained too.  Get off your politically correct asses
> >  and see the world the way it really is.  White people will always have
> >  the upper hand.  Its a fact of life we must learn to live with.  I
> >  don't like it any more than you do (I am NOT white, I am hispanic).
> >
> >  The way I see it, this is the intelligence scale of races, smartest
> >  at the top...
> >
> >  Oriental
> >  White
> >  Hispanic
> >  Black
> >  Polish
>    dogs
>    donkeys
>    .
>    .
>    .
>    Hugo Gonzalez
> >
> >  I am right in the middle, so I am not that far above black people, so
> >  don't give me shit about it.  That does not mean the people near
> >  the bottom of the scale are destined to clean toilets all their lives.
> >  I spent 8 years in medical school and am now a practicing physician.
> >  If I can do it, thjen so can everybody else.  Itsw just that the
> >  dumber people have to work harder, and not take the easy way out
> >  by turning to drugs and crime.
> >
> >  Being black or hispanic is kind of like being mentally handicapped.
> >  We may not have the brains of the white man, but with determination,
> >  we can overcome our handicap!  Don't let racism get you down.
> >
> >  That all I had to say, someone else can take the soapbox now...

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