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From: plebrun@vub.UUCP (Philippe Lebrun)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Strange Cure For Burn?
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:23:34 GMT
Organization: Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Brussels
Summary: Re: strange cure for burn

Sorry, messed up my previous attempt at a reply.  I won't do it 
again, promise.

In article <1992Aug13.005931.12031@odin.corp.sgi.com>, sajid@jam.wpd.sgi.com (Sajid Zia) writes:
> I have experienced a strange cure of burn; If your skin is
> exposed to heat lightly, something like spilling the boiling water
> or hot oil on the skin, If you put kerosine on that part of the skin, it
> gets cured immidiately, not even a sign is left. 
> 
> Can somebody reason it out medically? 

I have treated quite a few burns but have never heard of anything like 
this. Nor can I think of a reasonable explanation.  Does anyone else
have any ideas, or do we include this in the same category as
toothpaste and butter.
From: snm@prism.gatech.EDU (Sathis Menon)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Long term effects of Bromocryptin
Keywords: cancer
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:41:10 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Hi,

My wife has been on bromocryptin for the past 2 years. She
was diagnosed as having a pituitary macro adenoma (over 1cm).
Bromocryptin reduces the size of the adenoma
(thereby eliminating headaches). However, it has a lot of
side effects (weakness, irritability, etc.).

Surgery to reduce the size of the pituitary is an option,
but i have been told that in a good number of cases, the 
tumor comes back. 

The PDR does not say a whole lot about the long term effects
of continuing bromocryptin. Are there any recent reports on
this?

Thanks for any info

Sathis Menon.





-- 
Sathis Menon
College of Computing, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
Internet: snm@cc.gatech.edu
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From: woody@praxis.co.uk (Paul Woodman)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Don't laugh, I am having trouble opening my mouth.
Date: 21 Aug 92 08:13:45 GMT
Organization: Praxis, Bath, U.K.

Don't laugh, I am having trouble opening my mouth.

2 weeks ago, I had to give a presentation that involved talking
continuously for almost 4 hours. Afterwards, I could feel pain in
my jaw just below my left ear but didn't think anything of it
as the pain subsided later.

However, on Monday, I woke up to find that I had great difficulty
opening my mouth. I can only open it just about wide enough to
fit a Mars bar in, before I get a sharp pain coming from jaw below
left ear and the mouth wont go any wider.

I am sure that I have read some on this subject in this news group
previously and the advice was just that it would go away in the end.

Well, 5 days on and it hasn't. I now have a dull ache in my jaw
and pain from the left side jaw hinge when I chew anything. I still
can't open my mouth any wider and every day things are getting tricky
like cleaning teeth etc.

If I feel where I presume my jaw hinges around the ear area, it feels
to me that there is more of a gap between the upper and lower jaw
(where they hinge) on the left side than on the right. I also now get
clicking noises coming from the right side of my jaw when I open my
mouth. 

In all other respects, I am in good health with no ongoing medical
problems and no history of any problems.

Of course, I can go to the doctor but I feel a little stupid about
the problem so thought I would seek advice in this forum first.

All responses gratefully received, and if you post follow-ups, please
make them world readable because I am in the UK.

                                Paul Woodman  

                                Praxis plc, Software Engineers,
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From: tsf@CS.CMU.EDU (Timothy Freeman)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Pittsburgh Medical Debator wanted
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:26:09 GMT
Distribution: pa
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Originator: tsf@U.ERGO.CS.CMU.EDU

In article <16023@pitt.UUCP> km@speedy.cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:
   From my experience, Libertarians don't listen to anyone else anyway,
   so why have a debate?

Because the audience might listen.  The audience won't be
Libertarian, so how well Libertarians listen is irrelevant.

The important question is, why would the person advocating the
non-Libertarian stance want to participate in the debate?  

* That person will get to present his views to the audience on an
  equitable basis
* Some attention will be attracted to the issue debated
* It's a chance to be seen
* It's a chance to verbally abuse a Libertarian

Take it or leave it.  I see no point in km's whining.
--
Tim Freeman <tsf@cs.cmu.edu>    CompuServe ID 71045,2267 checked occasionally.
When they took the fourth amendment, I was silent because I don't deal drugs.
When they took the sixth amendment, I kept quiet because I know I'm innocent.
When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I don't own a gun.
Now they've come for the first amendment, and I can't say anything at all.
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com (Buffy Hyler)
Subject: Heart in Throat - what causes this?
Reply-To: hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com
Organization: SAIC
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:34:44 GMT

I've noticed over the last 6 months that I've been having occasional
"heart in throat" events.  That's the best way I can describe it.  It
seems to hit me right at the lower part of my neck in the throat area
and interferes temporarily with my breathing.  It only lasts a moment
and usually makes me want to cough in a throat clearing way.  Sometimes
I'll get 2-3 in a row and then it goes away for a week or so before the
next event.  I'm usually sitting down and calm and quiet when it happens.
There is no pain at all, just a "interuption" type of feeling.  The only
reason it bothers me at all is that it seems to be uncontrolled.  I'm
not doing anything to cause it.  One thought I had was that it might have
to do with too tight clothes.  My weight has gone up enough that my normal
clothing is now quite snug.  Plus I never noticed it before my weight
gain (~30 pounds) so I was wondering if they were connected.

I'm seeing my GP next month for a regular check-up and plan to ask him
about it, but I was wondering if others had this feeling and what could
be the reasons for it.

Thanks!

---
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Buffy Hyler (hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com)
SAIC, Campus Point
San Diego, California
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From: PRICKRIL@bscf.uga.edu (BEN PRICKRIL)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Mercury in dental fillings?
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:11:39 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, USA
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <BswGn5.CJL@wpg.com> russ@wpg.com writes:

> From article <1992Aug12.204244.22637@athena.cs.uga.edu>, by PRICKRIL@bscf.uga.edu (BEN PRICKRIL):
> bp> Amid all the hoopla you refer to concerning mercury amalgam 
> bp> fillings, there are a few studies which together indicate that 
> bp> mercury amalgam fillings have at least some potential to pose a 
> bp> health threat.  The following have been reported in the 
> bp> literature (refs available on request): 
> bp>
> bp> -In humans, dental "silver" amalgam tooth fillings (ca.  50% 
> bp> mercury by weight) continuously release mercury vapor.  Moreover, 
> bp> the release rate of this mercury is enhanced within 10 minutes 
> bp> following chewing or tooth brushing.  
> bp> 
> bp> -A single amalgam filling will release 15 ug/day into mouth air.
> bp> 
> bp> -The amount of mercury absorbed by the body from fillings, 
> bp> although variable from study to study, is about 10 ug/day 
> bp> (consensus value), vs.  2.3 ug/day absorbed from food, water, and 
> bp> air.  Furthermore, autopsy studies have demonstrated significantly 
> bp> higher mercury levels in brain and kidney of subjects with dental 
> bp> amalgams compared to control subjects lacking amalgams.  
> bp> 
> bp> -Preliminary studies in humans indicate that both fertility and 
> bp> brain function may be altered due to exposure to dental amalgam 
> bp> mercury.  
> 
> Please post your references.  I'm intimately familiar with most of the
> anti-amalgam studies on the market, and without exception, every one of
> the anti-amalgam studies I've seen is seriously flawed.

[REMAINDER OF REPLY DELETED]

> Russell Lawrence, WP Group, New Orleans (504) 443-5000
> russ@wpg.com   uunet!wpg!russ

The refs I referred to are as follows:

Mercury vapor release.
	-Svare, C.W. et al. (1981) J. Dent. Res. 60, 1668-1671.
	-Vimy, M.J., and Lorscheider, F.L. (1985) J. Dent. Res. 64, 1069-1071.
	-Patterson, J.E. et al. (1985) Bull. Environ. Contam. Toxicol. 34,
	 459-468.
	-Gross, M.J. and Harrison, J.A. (1989) J. Appl. Electrochem. 19, 301-310

Mercury absorption by body tissue.
	-Vimy, M.J., and Lorscheider, F.L. (1990) J. Trace Elem. Exper. Med.
	 3, 111-123.
	-World Health Organization (1991) Environmental Health Criteria 118,
	 Inorganic Mercury. p. 36, WHO, Geneva.
	-Clarkson, T.W. et al. (1988) In: Biological Monitoring of Toxic Metals
	 (Clarkson, T.W. and others, eds.) pp.199-246.
	-ibid., pp.247-260.
	-Nylander, M., et al. (1987) Swed. Dent. J. 11, 179-187.
	-Aposhian et al. (1992) FASEB J. 6, 2472-2476.

Effect of dental amalgum on fertility and organ function.

	-Society of Toxicology Annual Meeting (1992) Symposium: Toxicity
	 assessment of mercury vapor from dental amalgams. The Toxicologist
	 12, 6-7.

Ben Prickril, Univ. of Georgia (404)542-3486
prickril@bscf.uga.edu
From: landriau@Software.Mitel.COM (Marc Landriault)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Tagamet
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:29:37 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.


Just wondering, should one stay on a regular supply of 
Cimetide (Tagamet) of several weeks if hyper-acidity
has been diagnosed, or just take it when it is really 
needed...
One doctor says only when it is really needed, and 
the other says on a regular 4 week course regardless...

Also is this drug hard on your system, side effects?

Thanks in advance,

Marc Landriault
From: crosson@cam.nist.gov (Robert Crosson)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Affects of increased blood flow to the brain
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:11:34 GMT
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology

I was just thinking the other day that we know what decreased
blood flow to the brain causes.  Is there any research looking into
the affects of greater (maybe only a little) blood flow to the
brain?  Like increased brain function?  Increased intelligence?
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Smart Drugs
Date: 22 Aug 92 00:34:28 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <16143@pitt.UUCP> km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:

>
>All of this does not prevent thousands of doctors from routinely
>injecting normal people with B12. It makes the patients feel better
>and makes the doctors richer. It is perhaps the best placebo use
>of a medication on a widespread scale, which could be prevented
>through better health education. It's defense is the defense of
>placebo medicine, which I do not subscribe to at all.

It's a wonderful placebo too.  Has the magic of the word "vitamin",
is an injection, it is a beautiful red color.  A British study
of pill placebos showed that color was very important.  Deep
red and blue pills worked much better.  White was the worst color.
Very tiny pills (must really be potent!) and very large capsules
were also quite effective.  The least effective placebo was the
size and color of an aspirin.



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Newsgroups: sci.med
From: tomca@microsoft.com (Tom B. Carey)
Subject: Please take it elsewhere (was: Definition of an addict)
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:08:08 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Followup-To: talk.politics.drugs,talk.politics.misc,alt.drugs

Please remove sci.med from these discussions.

This is proving to be an interesting exercise in polemics and religious
beliefs, but the hoped-for input from MDs on the nature of addiction
has not been forthcoming, and the thread is no longer appropriate for
this newsgroup. IMHO.

thanks.
Tom
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 * The opinions expressed are those of the writer and do	*
 * not reflect the official position of Microsoft Corporation	*
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: avery@netcom.com (Avery Ray Colter)
Subject: Re: Warning issued on herbal treatment for obesity
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 04:12:24 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein) writes:

>Don't take Mr. Colter too literally.

Sorry again, Dr. Greenstein.
I must defer to your better judgments and not jump on associations
so much, at least until I finish my own studies.

It's a bit like the point, after the first year or two of a foreign language,
some get a little gung-ho about applying the basic rudiments at every corner,
while the ones who have been in the study longer shake their heads in agony.

Leave it to a young upstart to throw everything in disarray. :P

Hopefully a few years back in Chabot with the anatomy and physiology
classes will calm my tongue and keyboard fingers (yes, good old
Western A&P, as well as psych, are prerequisites to admission to most
of the acupuncture schools in the state, certainly the ones I'm considering,
in preparation for classes in (taken from one catalog) Pathology, Physical
Diagnosis, Pharmacology, Clinical Medicine and Psych, and Lab Diagnostics).

Forgive me please for my poorly sculpted words. I just get too enthusiastic
when I see different angles of attack on a problem appearing to converge.

I'll shut up now and try not to disrupt the already-licensed any further.

-- 
Avery Ray Colter ("Elfcat") - 	avery@netcom.netcom.com (IP 192.100.81.100)
(510) 656-1902          	"A R Colter" on America Online
"Heaviness is the root of lightness; calmness is the controller of haste"
From: king@reasoning.com (Dick King)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Medical Debts ->>> Bankruptcy
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:32:05 GMT
Organization: Reasoning Systems, Inc., Palo Alto, CA

In article <1992Aug11.033137.22211@news.Hawaii.Edu> bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King) writes:
>
>
>Ah, the wonders of scientific medicine, not only do they often fail to
>cure you, they cahrge you for their failed attempts, but the absurd 
>costs may drive you into Bankruptcy.
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>The Saturday Evening Paper Headline read:
>
>"Medical Debts forcing many into Bankruptcy"
>
>As many as 112,000 personal bankruptcies  filed in 1991 are believed
>to be caused in some extent by medical expenses.
>If, as a result of your medical misfortune you have to miss work,
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>your medical bills may be paid, but other expences are not met due 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>to a lack of income.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>In N. Ohio, 1/3 of bankruptcy petitions are the result of medical debt.
>Of 24000 debtors in Tx, Ca, Pn, Il, & Tn  12.4% were the result of medical
>bills. 

In my opinion, the "study" earned the title of "bogus", and probably is a piece
of political advocacy.

They lumped the BKs due to unmeetable medical bills with those due to income
loss from disability.

-dk
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: dedmunds@selkirk.sfu.ca (Darran Edward Edmundson)
Subject: Re: Prozac/sleeping/alternatives
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 04:21:40 GMT

dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:

>from me.  After about 3 weeks, this began to resolve.  I ultimately stopped
>the drug because of its sexual side effects (i.e, anorgasmia), which tended
>to make me a little grouchier than usual on the net. :-/

What is "anorgasmia"?  I'm currently taking 20mg Prozac daily and have noticed
(make that my wife has noticed) that it has greatly increased my staying
power.  Is this a common side-effect?

-- 

Darran Edmundson
darran@chaos.phys.sfu.ca
From: nelsonb@oodis01.af.mil (Contractor Bert Nelson)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Ulnar Nerve Syndrome -- Ulnar Palsy
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:56:16 GMT
Organization: Hill AFB, Utah



Another term for Ulnar Nerve Syndrome is Ulnar Palsy.  This is where you
lose strength in the hand due to inflamation of the ulnar nerve.  The
ulnar nerve is the nerve that runs around your elbow and it is the same
nerve that you feel that when you hit your elbow and "hit your funny bone".

Symptoms of Ulnar Palsy may include numbness, tingling, and diminished
strength in the hand.  I am just getting over it now.  My doctor prescribed
some anti-inflammatories and a new chair at work.  Apparently I was resting
and rubbing my arm excessively on the arm rests, which pinched the nerve,
which in turn causes inflamation and pain.


Here is a little article on Ulnar Palsy that I found in a medical book
at the local library.  (I don't have the book title).

ULNAR PALSY.  The ulnar nerve may be injured at the elbow, especially in persons with a shallow ulnar groove, those who rest on their elbows excessively, and
those who are cachectic and lie in bed.  Injury may occury years following a previously malunited suprocondylar fracture of the humerus with bony overgrowth
(tardive ulnar palsy).  Contrary to the findings in the carpal tunnel syndrome,
muscle weakness and atrophy characteristically predominate over the
the first dorsal interossenous muscle or difficulty in performing fine        
maninpulation.  Ther may be numbness of the small finger, the contiguous half 
of the proximal and middle phalanges of the ring ring finger. and the ulnar    
border of the hand.  Treatment in mild cases consists of prevention of further
injdury.  A dougnut cushion for the elbow may be helful.  Mobiling and 
transplanting the nerve to a position in fron of the medial epicondyle sometimesprevents further progression.

So the basic treatment is to get away from whatever caused the injury or
surgery to move the nerve out of the way.


with standard_disclaimer;
use standard_disclaimer;

Bert Nelson
Synergy, Inc.
Hill Air Force Base
Clearfiled, Utah

nelsonb@oodis01.af.mil   
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: kmarko@hpbs654.boi.hp.com (Kurt Marko)
Subject: Kidney Dialysis Ques.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:13:19 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho

I am interested in what the current `state of the art' in dialysis
treatment is.  I realize this is a rather vague question, however, not
being active in the medical field, I'm somewhat ignorant of new
developments in technology.  I am trying to followup on a `rumor' one
of my relatives heard about new machines being available which can
essentially cut the `filtration' time in half (or better).

Assume one has to undergo dialysis three times per week for about four
hours per session, using `conventional' dialysis equipment (e.g. that
available at a run-of-the-mill hospital in a small city).  Are there
machines available/under development which could reduce the session
treatment time?  If so, who makes them, who is using them, and where
might one go to learn more and inquire about treatments?  A related
question; what are the prospects for a `semi-portable' dialysis unit
(i.e. one that could be transported to a home or hotel, not
necessarily one that could be `worn') in the next few years?  (I
suspect near 0, but since I'm asking...)

Thanks in advance for any information or pointers.

Kurt Marko
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Smartdrugs
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:37:31 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <36921@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tcederqu@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Trevor Cederquist) writes:
>	TS, I question the depth of your knowledge on nootropics
>	and believe your posting with a "School of Pharmacy" 
>	.sig file to be unethical.
>

Spare us, you bozo!  His posting was very reasonable and displayed
nothing from which you could draw such a conclusion.  Unethical
indeed!


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From: km@speedy.cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Diabetic coma
Date: 12 Aug 92 11:52:51 GMT
Reply-To: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Aug12.000812.5891@javelin.sim.es.com- bgeer@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
-
-Perhaps you could build yourself a little "include" file on your
-computer that would contain all these terms & their relationship, then
-include it with your diabetes posts.  That wouldn't take much more
-energy than unnecessarily flaming someone disagreeing with your use of
-"juvenile" & "adult", terms with which I am completely unfamiliar.  I
-do know something about the distinction between Type I & Type II
-diabetes, however.
-
-Stop kneejerking & communicate more carefully.

Yes, mother.

I am really tired of people who tell me how to post. If you don't like
what I post, hit the "k" or "n" key. Several months ago I asked the
newsgroup if it were interested in being moderated, and the overwhelming
response was "no". I'm sorry if you don't think I communicate
carefully, but until you set up a moderated newsgroup, you are going
to have to put up with my "kneejerk" responses.

 -km
From: john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore)
Subject: Re: Need info on TENS electro stimulator
Reply-To: john@anasazi.com
Organization: Anasazi Inc, Phoenix AZ USA
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 13:12:47 GMT

Keywords: 

In article <JF5NBAAH@dri.com> liberato@dri.com (Jimmy Liberato) writes:
]A chiropractor I went to used a TENS (I think he said that stands for 
]trancutaneous electro neural stimulation or somthing like that) unit on 
]my back.  It is a cigarette pack sized device that has four wires on it 
]that attach to electrodes attached to the skin.  I opened it up and it
]is powered by a 9 volt alkaline battery.  From what I can surmise, it 
]simply pulses the 9 volt DC and then steps the voltage way up to to a 
]point that causes a very mild shock (there are dials on the unit to adjust 
]the output).  I found the effect somewhat pleasant and it certainly diminished
]the spasm I was suffering (more so than any of his spinal manipulations).

I have one of these widgets, although I rarely use it any more.
Being an engineer, I measured the behavior of it. It puts out as much
as 100 volts! I think you could potentially induce cardiac arrest
if you used it wrong.

By the way, it had about $10 worth of parts in it (basically, an
oscillator and a transformer and a couple of pots and switches to
adjust things).

It does, however, appear to have some benefit.
-- 
John Moore NJ7E, 7525 Clearwater Pkwy, Scottsdale, AZ 85253  (602-951-9326)
john@anasazi.com ncar!noao!asuvax!anasaz!john anasaz!john@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
       - - My gun is safer than Ted Kennedy's car - -
 - - - "It is better to be judged by twelve, than carried by six." - - -