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From: filipi@cebaf9.cebaf.gov (Adrian Thomas Filipi-Martin)
Subject: Two questions
Reply-To: filipi@cebaf9.cebaf.gov (Adrian Thomas Filipi-Martin)
Organization: CEBAF (Continuous Electron Beam Accelerator Facility)
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 05:48:09 GMT

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Hi,
	I havn't been able to follow this group regularly for the last mont or
so. Could some one update
	me on the two following questions.

	1. I remember that Bill was going to publish a book on 386bsd internals
this fall. Does anyone
	know what its status is?

	2. Has there been any mention of the next version, 0.2?

Thanks,	
  Adrian.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: Re: [386bsd] Install?
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:22:14 GMT

Glen Collins (glenc@netcom.com) wrote:
: 
: 	Hot307 80386 33/40
: 	AMI Bios/ OPTI chipset
: 	Total of now 6 Megs of memory
: 	104 Meg harddrive (rll'ed)
: 		68 Megs for 386bsd
: 		 5 Meg boot partition
: 		30 Meg extended dos partition
: 	Generic WD Harddrive/Floppy controller
: 	Trident SVGA card (1 meg)
: 	Microsoft mouse
: 	Proaudio spectrum card
: 
: 
: 
: Now the problem I am having is when I type install it seems to work okay
: until it gets to the high level formating of 386bsd storage. The system
: hangs and I must use the reset button to restart. Could this be a problem
: with newfs and chipset settings? I have taken all cards out except the svga
: card and floppy/harddrive controller and still no dice. Could it be a stray
: interrupt problem with the floppy drive? I noticed when I tried to install
: linux, it said there  was a stray interrupt. Could it be that? Please help!
: I have in the past week picked up the WD bootable fix from berekely and
: the dist.fs for no ehternet controller but it still won't continue from
: that sticking point.
I have the same problem with a different motherboard, a 386/33. Ami Bios.
I don't think it is a bios problem. Most probably, motherboard problem, which
could be affected by the CMOS and chipset setting.
	
--
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Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
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Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet

Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: dawes@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Dawes)
Subject: Re: 386BSD, XFree, Mouse...
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:12:11 GMT

In article <UWP.92Nov9101405@blasuarr.cs.tu-berlin.de> uwp@cs.tu-berlin.de (Udo Wolter) writes:
>Hi !
>I've problems with XFree under 386BSD. I can only start it in 640x480 Mode, 
>I can't find any working configuration for other (800x600, 1024x768) Modes.
>I have a SIGMA Legend VGA Card with a TSENG4000 chip. Can anyone mail me an
>example XConfig file ?
>The second is that I have a Genius Microsoft compatible mouse with 3 buttons,
>but I only get 2 buttons to work. How can I use all 3 buttons of my mouse ?

Try running your Genius mouse in "MouseSystems" mode, and update the
Xconfig entry accordingly.  That's what I do.

David
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: ob@obh.in-berlin.de (Oliver Brandmueller)
Subject: sas serial driver wanted
Organization: obh - private bbs in Berlin/Germany
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 14:59:09 GMT

Hello world!

Does anyone know where to find the sas serial device driver mentioned
in the X386 manual?

Thanx, Olli


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: newman@netcom.com (Charles E Newman)
Subject: BSD for a 386
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 20:37:38 GMT



          How much does BSD for the 386 cost? One one community college I went
to got it for their mainframe machine, BSD UNIX cost them $5000. Is it that
much for a PC and how much Hard Disk space does it require. The mainframe 
versions tipically take 120 megs of disk space. At least that is what it takes
on a VAX


Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: dhess@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Drew William Hess)
Subject: [386BSD] Problems booting Tiny 386BSD
Keywords: 386bsd
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: comp
Date:  9 Nov 92 04:08:42 GMT

I've decided to give 386BSD 0.1 a try, but I can't get the Tiny 386BSD
floppy to boot on my system.  I downloaded dist.fs from agate.berkeley.edu,
did a rawrite to a 3.5" floppy, and cold booted, but the A drive light just
glows and nothing ever happens.  No disk activity, as far as I can tell.

I tried this with several different diskettes, assuming that maybe the first
disk was bad, but this was to no avail.

I also downloaded dist.fs from the unofficial/newbootables/cgd directory,
which is supposed to be a patched bootable distribution, but I still have
the same problems.

My system config:

	Gateway 4DX2-66V (Micronics VL-Bus motherboard)
	8MB
	ATI Ultra Pro LB with memory aperture starting at 10MB
	340MB Quantum IDE hard drive

I've also tried slowing the system down to 8MHz during boot and have 
disabled the BIOS Shadowing.  No luck.  Actually, now that I think about it,
I didn't slow the system down and try to boot the patched (cgd) dist.fs,
but somehow I don't have much faith that this would solve the problem.

Has anyone been able to get 386BSD 0.1 running on a similar system?

BTW, Linux 0.98 pl1 runs fine on this system....

Thanks for the info, in advance.

-dwh-
dhess@cs.stanford.edu

Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: ejh@slustl.slu.edu (Eric J. Haug)
Subject: Re: XFree86 problems (keyboard hangs overnight)
Summary: use codriver
Organization: Saint Louis University  Saint Louis, MO
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:41:30 GMT

The X386 to keyboard, vga, and bell interface seem to work quite nicely
with the keycap(codriver) code from Holger Veit.
eric
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: tdphette@mke.ab.com (Thad Phetteplace x4461)
Subject: Re: Creating 386BSD bootable using a SUN
Organization: Allen-Bradley Co.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:51:43 GMT

rich@catalpa.ssc.gov (Rich Verdier CAD) writes:
: Keywords: 
: 
: I am trying to create the  Tiny 386BSD bootable floppy after down loading the
: dist.fs file to my SUN.
: 
: Question. 1.) what is the approach now to create the floppy, the existing FAQ
: 	     that Ihave acquired is unclear and the INSTALL.NOTES doesn't have
: 	     pertinent info.
: 

The rawrite.exe program in the tools directory can be used to write the
dist.fs image onto a floppy.  If you cannot get rawrite.exe and dist.fs
to a PC to try this, and have a floppy drive on your Sun, try this instead:

cp dist.fs /dev/fd0

I suspect this will work.  Good luck and tell me how it goes.

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Phone: (414)382-4461
Email: tdphette@mke.ab.com

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From: visnurpk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Rich Kernin)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: [386BSD] Configuring a new Kernel
Date: 8 Nov 92 20:35:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hi,

   I've installed the src01 package recently, and want to upgrade the
kernel, using the patchkit, so I may keep current.  The problem is that
I haven't found out how to do this yet... :-(  I've read the man page for
config(8), but didn't get any specifics from it (ie. how do you create a
file that config will process?).  Could someone please point me in the right
direction?  I've only been working with BSD for a week or two, and would
very much like to get kernel experience (previous systems were commercial,
and Linux was easier to grasp since it is smaller).  Any/all suggestions
very much appreciated!

-Rich

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From: vthrc@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (Danny Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: other SCSI boards?  newcomer poses FAQ
Keywords: scsi adaptek dat faq
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:23:43 GMT
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland


hello,
  We are thinking of setting up a 386BSD system for netnews, email, NFS, 
etc; ie primarily as a network server. Apart from whether the OS is stable 
enough for this role we also need to know whether the Adaptek local-bus SCSI 
controller would work. I had a brief look through agate.berkeley.edu 
including the unofficial FAQ and INSTALLATION.NOTES and they only mention 
the Adaptec 1542 and Seagate/Future Domain boards. I'm told the 1542 is 
quite expensive (A$600) but I've got no idea why this is so - our local 
clone dealer says that their local-bus SCSI controller, quite reasonably 
priced at A$195, is an Adaptek one though no model was mentioned. Apart from 
the price, the local-bus card should give better performance with a fast 
disk, Fujitsu 1G. Eventually we may end up with a commercial UN*X box which 
is why we want to invest in a SCSI disk that could be moved onto either a 
Mac or UN*X box.
    A related question is whether 386BSD can _easily_ use a DAT drive for 
backup (remember I'm a novice).

The only netnews machine I have _convenient_ access to doesn't have this 
group, so I'd appreciate email copies of any reply postings.

cheers,
X500: @c=AU [I'm about to update VTHRC entries, soon...]
       @o=University of Queensland
        @ou=Physiology and Pharmacology Department
         @ou=Vision Touch and Hearing
          @cn=Danny Thomas
           @rfc822Mailbox=vthrc@cc.uq.oz.au
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: cflatter@nrao.edu (Chris Flatters)
Subject: Re: XView - how much of it is available?
Reply-To: cflatter@nrao.edu
Organization: NRAO
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 16:02:46 GMT

In article 2691@netcom.com, hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr) writes:
>While you are completing xview, could you also port UIT (User 
>Interface Toolkit for xview)?
>By having UIT it will give us the ability to write xview programs 
>with less pain.

I would wait until its developer gets it to play with g++.

	Chris Flatters
	cflatter@nrao.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: nbladt@autelca.ascom.ch (Norbert Bladt)
Subject: Re: Ported software list.
Organization: Ascom Autelca AG, Guemligen, Switzerland
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:59:03 GMT

spedpr@thor.cf.ac.uk (Paul Richards) writes:

>Well I've started on a ported software list. I wouldn't even call this a
>first draft. It's really so we can decide if the format's right and get
>people to start making submissions. If you've ported any software to
>386bsd then fill in the form below and mail it to me. If you think there
>should be other fields in the form then let me know. 

First, thanks for this list.

[ other packages deleted - NB. ]

>---------
>PACKAGE: XS3
>---------
>Description:	X server for the S3 chipset (very similar to the
>		8514/a)
>Status:		
>Maintained by:	Primary: Amancio Hasty
>		Secondary: 
>OS version:	
>Installed at ref.tfs.com: 
>Available from: sunvis.rtpnc.epa:/pub/386bsd/incoming
Is somebody really able to access this host ?
From Europe it is NOT possible. Except for one directory listing of
pub/386bsd/incoming (and, believe it or not: XS3 is NOT in this directory)
I couldn't get anything from this before the ftp-server crashes etc.
>Requires: 
S3 VGA board, of course.
>Notes:
ftp-server seems to be very flakey. I tried several other hosts in the states
without any problem. But this one: unreachable at best, sorry.

I would really like to run this server, but can't for obvious reasons.
BTW: How big is the XS3 server, if I am able to connect to ref.tfs.com, someday.

Norbert Bladt.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: nbladt@autelca.ascom.ch (Norbert Bladt)
Subject: [386BSD] Got XS3 server finally (was: Re: Ported software list.)
Organization: Ascom Autelca AG, Guemligen, Switzerland
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:03:02 GMT

hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr) writes:

>In article <1992Nov10.134110.20932@rtpnc.epa.gov> fty@bizarre.rtpnc.epa.gov (Frank Terhaar-Yonkers) writes:
>>Is anyone else having a problem?  I show 750 accesses to this archive in the 
>>past two months and no other complaints ...
>>
>>- Frank
>>
[ text about problems to connect to sunvis.rtpnc.epa.gov deleted - NB.]

>Hi,
>Where will you like for me to place XS3 that is convenient for you
>to access?
With a lot of trouble, but finally with success, I was able to get the
XS3 server from sunvis.rtpnc.epa.gov !
I will put it up for anon-ftp here in Switzerland.

Some background for those interested (others can hit 'n' now):

Because I don't have direct ftp-access I am using a ftp-mail service.
That's why I can't try to connect to sunvis.rtpnc... at any time I would like
and I can't try it 100 times a day.
I tried several times to connect to the ftp-site (mentioned above) via mail.
I got just one connection, did a directory listing of the directory
pub/386bsd/incoming and saw a symbolic link for all the X programs to a
different directory :-( That means, XS3 is not in the directory mentioned
in several postings. Although you might still get it if you type in the
(sym-linked) name, you can't determine the size of the file this way !

Now, I tried to get a directory listing of the other directory several times.
No success whatsoever. I have to know the size of the file (and its name, of
course) before I can try and get it. I won't download via ftp-mail several
MBytes of programs or sources, regardless of what it is.
Finally, it is expensive over here :-( Even if I got a connection, as soon
as the mode was changed from binary to ascii there was a timeout and that's it.
Frank Terhaar-Yonkers (thanks a lot for your help) send me a directory listing
of the real directory (pub/386bsd/X) in which the XS3 server is stored.

Yesterday, I tried again to connect to the server and after the fifth try (four
were done by the ftp-mail server, but I didn't give up and send the job again),
I finally got the XS3 server. It seems to me, that if I don't do any
directory listing it might be fine sometimes. I don't know.
As Frank told me, there are a lot of hops between my ftp-mail server and his
ftp-site. Perhaps the timeout is not set right for this number of hops.
Unfortunately, I can't change the timeout on the ftp-mail server !

>As for the size is about 900K uncompressed and 540K compressed...
Now, I know it, thanks.

Norbert.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: stark@cs.sunysb.edu (Gene Stark)
Subject: Re: XFree86 problems (keyboard hangs overnight)
Organization: SUNY at Stony Brook Computer Science Dept.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:44:08 GMT

>  Also, I've noticed some problems with the capslock key; sometimes
>the capslock is engaged, and I can't disengage it without restarting
>the server.   In this regard, none of the keyboard lights (capslock, numlock,
>etc...) seem to function.
>
>  Finally, did anyone ever find out where the <bell> went?
>
>	- Dave Rivers -
>	(rivers@ponds.uucp (home))
>	(sastdr@unx.sas.com (work))

I was one of the people who posted asking about the bell.  No one who
"knows" anything ever responded, but a few people mailed me who also
wanted to know anything I found out.

Anyway, in looking at some of the X server code while getting my bus mouse
to work, it appeared to me that, although the server makes the appropriate
ioctl's to ring the console bell, the 386bsd console driver doesn't actually
support these ioctl's at present, so the bell doesn't ring.  I could be
totally wrong about this, but nevertheless my bell doesn't ring and I don't
see any mechanism in 386bsd that would enable the server to cause it to ring.
Similar mechanism appears to be missing in the case of the keyboard lights.

I though about hacking in an ioctl for the bell and maybe for the lights,
but I didn't get around to it yet.

							- Gene Stark
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: osycs@giac1.oscs.montana.edu (Craig Spannring)
Subject: Re: Largest file size for 386BSD ?
Keywords: n
Organization: Geographic Information & Analysis Center Montana State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 09:00:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.173454.17896@fcom.cc.utah.edu> terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C) writes:
>In article <1992Nov6.031757.20766@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
>>This will be an important issue because soon we'll have hundreds of gigabytes,
>>instead of magabytes soon.
>>	It took the jump from tens mega to hundreds in just 10 years.
>
>Get around the problem:
>
[ 4 suggestions deleted. ]
>
>I don't think it will be an issue that soon anyway.

Not too long ago I used to think that way also.  Then my boss came up 
to me because he couldn't edit a text file in vi.  I scratched
my head for a moment then did an ls -alg just for the heck of it.
The stupid text file was 93 MEGABYTES!  Arg.  I think the limitation
will hit big in less than ten years.  Hopefully by then all the machines
will have 64 bit words and the maximum file size will grow accordingly.

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From: tdphette@mke.ab.com (Thad Phetteplace x4461)
Subject: Re: 386/486 <--> what UNIX
Organization: Allen-Bradley Co.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:26:55 GMT

wetzels@amc.uva.nl (F.P.M. Wetzels) writes:
: Hi,
: 
: If i have some 386/486 machine with enough memory. What are the
: possiblities of putting a public domain(?) BSD/SYSV unix on it?
: 
It can be done.  Many people following this news group (and others) have
done it.  I have installed 386BSD, X11R5, and OpenLook on my system at home.
It is relatively stable after installing a bunch of patches.  Linux is
another OS that many people have reported success with.  I haven't tried
it so I can't  say much about it.  I suggest you follow the comp.os.linux
newsgroup for a while to get more info.

: Or should i buy a complete system?
: 
That depends what you need it for.  Commercial systems such as SCO often
have more device drivers, a tech support hotline, and sales reps that you
can extort coffee mugs out of.  Personaly I like 386BSD because I get the
source code. 

--
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Network Systems Analyst, Allen-Bradley Co.
Phone: (414)382-4461
Email: tdphette@mke.ab.com

The opinions expressed here are entirely my own and not that of my employer.
I am not a slob, I am simply doing an experiment in domestic entropy!
From: sastdr@torpid.unx.sas.com (Thomas David Rivers)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,ics.general
Subject: Re: [386bsd]: SLIP woes (packetsize > 876)
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:02:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: unx.BxJ4Bo.ArL
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


  Just to follow up on this (since I happen to be SL/IP'd in right
now).

  On 386bsd saying -
    /sbin/ping -s869 wherever        [wherever is an HP PA-Risc box]

   I saw the modem go crazy; both the sending and receiving lights were
  pegged.  However, no packet ever made it back to the 386bsd box;
  (i.e. 49 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss)

  On the HP (wherever) pinging the 386bsd box:
    /etc/ping -s869 386bsd

   I never saw a single modem light twiddle.

   ping's with the default size work fine.

  Actually, let me describe the setup - I'm SL/IP'd into a XYPLEX,
 which handles the routing, etc... - so it could be any number of
 hops between the 386bsd box and the HP.

   Then, I did a quick search, and found the largest packet size I could
 ping back and forth was 876 bytes (using /sbin/ping -s 878).  I took
 some time looking in the kernel sources for this magic number (i.e. mtu,
 or something like that) - but couldn't find it.  However, it is a
 familiar number from somewhere...

	- Dave Rivers -
	(rivers@ponds.uucp (home))
	(sastdr@unx.sas.com (work))
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Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:59:31 EST
From: <MEICJ@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: FORTRAN compiler

Hi, there!
   Does any body know if there is a fortran compiler for 386bsd,
/or is any body working on it? For a real scientific use of the
system, not just for fun, a fortran compiler is necessary.

    C.-J. from Kingston
From: admerlev@sundae.triumf.ca ( Arnd Merlevede )
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: How do I set ram location on wd8003e ?
Date: 7 Nov 1992 00:47:59 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Reply-To: admerlev@cipy.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: sundae.triumf.ca

admerlev@sundae.triumf.ca ( Arnd Merlevede ) writes:

>admerlev@sundae.triumf.ca ( Arnd Merlevede ) writes:
>>Hi, after shoveling around every bit of docs that I could access,
>>I dint find a way to tell my adaptor to use ram at d000 (Which
>>is the default for the bootimages).
>>Ezsetup doesnt work for the 8003e.
>>Any other way to get ftp/mount functioning over the network ?

>Forgot to tell: 
>ftp gives:  ftp: connect: can't assign requested address
>and mount:  NFS: Portmap: RPC  Port mapper failure - RPC: Unable to send
Some nice guy compiled a working kernel for me
(irq 5 0x280 0xd000 - while the 0xd000 seemed to be not as important
as I thought.)
that I am willing to shar. Tell me and Ill mail it
Arnd


>??????????/
>Arnd

>>--
>>Any replies appreciated to : Arnd.Merlevede@cipy.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de
>>I hate to tell you, but you're only being simulated on the new cray !
>>(sdb: Would you like to save a backup of YOUR coredump ?)
>--
>Any replies appreciated to : Arnd.Merlevede@cipy.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de
>I hate to tell you, but you're only being simulated on the new cray !
>(sdb: Would you like to save a backup of YOUR coredump ?)
--
Any replies appreciated to : Arnd.Merlevede@cipy.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de
I hate to tell you, but you're only being simulated on the new cray !
(sdb: Would you like to save a backup of YOUR coredump ?)
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