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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Lorena KcKennit, Loreena McKennitt
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:30:12 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Nov4.224730.21832@das.harvard.edu> jmf@endor.harvard.edu ( ghost ) writes:
|was mostly Arthurian legends, words often by the likes of Yeats
|& whomever wrote the Lady of Shalot (<-bad spelling?) (Spencer??
|Tennyson?? I'm confused). 

Loreena wrote almost all of the music on "The Visit" including that of
The Lady of Shalott.  The lyrics were by Alfred Lord Tennyson (1843).  On
some other cuts she has adapted lyrics from people such as William Shakespeare.

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From: shecht@lamar.ColoState.EDU (steven heckt)
Subject: Re: ENYA - "The Lady of Shalott"
Summary: Not: actually McKennit 
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 21:53:16 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

I agree- this is beautiful. However, I believe this is actually
Loreena McKennit. Based on recommendations of hthis group, I 
bought her CD- "The Visit". "The Lady of Shallot" or whatever the 
spelling is a gorgeous rendering of Tennyson's verse and I hightly
(leave out the t!) recommend it. 

Asd a follow up: what is the feeling about Greg Brown's version of 
Blakes "Songs of..." experiencea nd isnnocence (geesh, sorry about
my typing) ?
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From: walker@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Graham Walker, 227 West Old Main,268-3847,)
Subject: Re: folk music & political movements
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 15:20:40 GMT

I am new to this group, though I appear to have been posting stuff here
because of cross-references to soc.culture.celtic., so some of this
material
may already be known.

a) mentions have been made to the "Little Red Song Book" well you can
purchase
it directly from the IWW at,

IWW Lit.
1476 W. Irving Park
Chicago, IL 60613
USA

Other material (music) of interest might be,

i) Rebel Voices: the album, which features Utha Phillips, Faith Petric,
   Bob Bovee, Marion Wade, Eric Glatz, Kathy Taylor, and Jeff Cahill.

ii) Timber by Darryl Cherney,

ii) Greenfire by Dakota Sid Clifford,

iv) Food Phone Gas Lodging by Charlie King

v) A World to Win by Tom Juravich

vi) United We Bargin Divided We Beg by Anne Feeney

vii) Smash the State and have a Nice Day by Citizen's Band

vii) I'll be There by Si Kahn

ix) Women's Work by Linda Allen, and

x) Don't Mourn Organize, which features Billy Bragg, Haywire Mac, Paul
   Robeson, and Mark Levy.

b) If you want to subscibe to the Industrial Worker (a monthly newspaper),
   which is the official "voice" of the IWW contact,

Industrial Worker
1095 Market St., #204
San Fransisco, CA 94103
USA

c) Another source for radical/anarchist publications is,

The Charles H. Kerr Publishing Company
1740 West Greenleaf Avenue
Chicago, IL 60626
USA

d) Anarchist Tapes are also produced and sold by

The Great Atlantic Radio Conspiracy
2743 Maryland Avenue
Baltimore, MD 21218
USA

Examples are,

i) Utah Phillips

ii) Breaking Free: the poetry of repression, resistance, and liberation
	and

iii) Anarchist Themes in Music.

They also produce a bi-yearly magazine called Social Anarchism (same
Baltimore address as above).

e) Syndacilist material can also be obtain from the WSA (Workers Solidarity
   Alliance), which is part of the IWA (International Workers Alliance).
   The address of their publication group is,

Ideas and Action
PO Box 40400
San Francisco, CA 94140
USA
(E-mail wsa@lever.com)

This group produces the "occasional" magazine called Ideas and Action plus
a bi-monthly newsletter entitled Workers Solidarity.
														
f) I Recently bought Utah Phillips latest album entitled "I've Got to Know"
   which was produced in responce to the Persian Gulf War and is mostly
   pacifist type songs. It is produced by Alcazar Records (Vermont), number
   ALC-114 (1991).  Other albums by Utah Phillips include,

i) All Used Up: A Scrapbook

ii) Good Though

iii) We Have Fed You All 1000 Years, and

iv) Legends of Folk (with Ramblin' Jack Elliott).

g) Another album that I would like to recommend is,

Work's Many Voices (Vol. I and II) (various artists) produced by
Arhoolie number C-224.

h) Finally, I would like to recommend a good book about folk music entitled,

The Peoples Past ed. by Edward J. Cowan (Pub. Edin.  Univ. Stud. Press)

										Thats all folks,


											GW


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From: wjones@halcyon.com (Warren Jones)
Subject: Re: Folk Sampler song
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:23:59 GMT

fnsjc@acad3.alaska.edu writes:

>I heard a song on last week's Folk Sampler that I was going to 
>remember to look up later , and now I hardly remember anything about 
>it.  The main line went something like "I keep on singing" or "I have 
>to keep on singing" or "i just keep on singing" or something (I wish I 
>remembered it better).

Did it go something like this ?

	My life goes on in endless song
	Above earth's lamentations
	I hear the real, though far-off hymn
	That hails a new creation.

	Through all the tumult and the strife
	I hear it's music ringing,
	It sounds an echo in my soul.
	How can I keep from singing?

	When tyrants tremble in their fear
	And hear their death knell ringing,
	When friend rejoice both far and near
	How can I keep from singing?

	In prison cell and dungeon vile
	Our thoughts to them are winging,
	When friends by shame are undefiled
	How can I keep from singing?

I copied the lyrics from Enya's "Shepard Moons" CD, but
to tell the truth I don't much care for her version.
I think Pete Seeger has recorded this, and probably a
bunch of other people besides.  No credits on my recording --
I suspect it's traditional, public domain.  Anyone care
to correct me?
-- 
Warren Jones
<wjones@halcyon.com>
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From: al@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Alan Peterman)
Subject: Re: Tom Lehrer
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 18:30:20 GMT

In article <BxAqD3.oM@nocusuhs.nnmc.navy.mil> organic@mgr.hjf.org (Miriam Organic) writes:
>FYI.....At leat one of Tom Lehrer's albums is out on C.D. now..
>"THAT WAS THE WEEK THAT WAS"

At least TWO are out, since I'm holding "Revisited" on CD in my hands.

However, some lyrics and songs were changed in later issuings of his songs.
In "An Evening Wasted" the early records definately have different lyrics
than the later reiisue on Warner Bros.

Oh, the "Revisited" disc has 2 bonus cuts, not on the record..


-- 
Alan L. Peterman                                 (503)-684-1984 hm & work
                       al@qiclab.scn.rain.com
It's odd how as I get older, the days are longer, but the years are shorter!
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From: shelley@b30!b11.ingr.com (Shelley Read Heard)
Subject: Austin City Limits?  Are vidios available?
Reply-To: shelley@heard.b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:17:17 GMT

Are videos of old ACL shows available for purchase?  If the ACL shows ARE
available, does anyone know an address to write to?  Thanks.  Shelley

-- 
   ~ ~    Shelley R. Heard (shelley@heard.b30.ingr.com)
 ( o o )  Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL
  ( ^ )   Disclaimer:  This is NOT my master's voice!
  / U \   Whoof!
From: de19@umail.umd.edu (Dana S Emery)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Woodwind hole placement
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:36:05 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.folk,rec.music.early
Organization: personal

In article <BxBG8u.IJy@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>,
ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) wrote:
> 
> This should be childs' play with lexan or plexiglass/perspex tubing! The
> head can be two layers nested together and glued... the joint area is 
> simply a the inner tube extending beyond the outer tube.


No, the amount of narowing needed is quite small, in fact it is so small in
historical instruments as to invite conjecture as to wether it was
intentional.  A built up layer of shellac/polyurethane can be used to
effect this much more reasonably than tooling it, especially for unica.

About 1 part in 50 (dia) comes to mind, mostly near the foot (I think from
the 3rd hole down past the 1st to the foot).

Yes, smoothnes of bore is a paramount concern for good tone, it is usefull
to undercut the holes as they meet the bore, in order to discourage
turbulence.  As this has different effects on the fundamental pitch and
upper octave pitch, it must be integrated into the design.

Metal and plastic flutes are much more easily smoothed than wooden ones,
but they all need it.
--

Dana S Emery <de19@umail.umd.edu>
From: dmr@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Daniel Rosenblum)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: NJ/NY/CT folk radio?
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:28:06 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University, Graduate School of Management, Newark, N.J.

In <1992Nov11.044328.27337@netcom.com> margie@netcom.com
 (Margie ODriscoll) writes:

>I know [WFUV-FM] can be heard pretty well for at least 75 mile range of
>the Bronx campus. I'm not sure how well the signal travels to New Haven,
>but it shouldn't be any problem in Northern NJ.

No, it's no problem at all picking it up in northern NJ.  Also in
northeastern NJ and the northern suburbs of New York City
(Westchester and Rockland Counties) is WFDU, 89.1 FM, the radio
station of Fairleigh Dickinson University in Teaneck.  They have
lots of folk, blues, bluegrass, country, etc. from 6 AM to 1 PM
Mon. through Fri. and from 6 AM to later in the afternoon on
Saturday.  Also Sunday afternoons they have an assortment of
similar stuff.  Note, in case you're looking for them, that they
don't broadcast on weekday evenings, when WNYU (New York
University's radio station) gets to use that frequency, and WNYU
does not play much folk at all.
-- 
Daniel M. Rosenblum, Assistant Professor, Quantitative Studies Area,
   Graduate School of Management, Rutgers University (Newark Campus)
ROSENBLUM@DRACO.RUTGERS.EDU                      ROSENBLUM@ZODIAC.BITnet
dmr@andromeda.rutgers.edu          ...!rutgers!andromeda.rutgers.edu!dmr
From: filfeit@rael.Tymnet.COM (Fil Feit)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Harry Chapin (Steve Goodman)
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:07:53 GMT
Reply-To: filfeit@rael.Tymnet.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems

In article 9LA@nocusuhs.nnmc.navy.mil, organic@mgr.hjf.org (Miriam Organic) writes:
>
>When steve goodman died of cancer years back that was a great loss as
>well. 

Sure was.  I used to go see him every chance I got in NY.  I remember being
dragged to a SG concert in the village (at the Bottom Line maybe), and
expecting to be bored.  He gets on stage and starts with "Red Red Robin",
and from then on, he had one more fan.

At the same show, he broke a string, so he grabbed another guitar while someone
else restrung his first one.  He proceeded to sing "It's a sin to tell a lie".
A string broke on his backup guitar during the song, and he changed the lyrics
from "If you break my heart I'll cry" to "If you break my _string_ I'll cry".
Then, he did "Penny Evans" a cappela.  We sat right in front of the stage,
and loved every second of the show.

--f2

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From: stevea@zeus.bony.com (Steve Albin)
Subject: Jack Hardy
Organization: The Bank of New York
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 17:03:44 GMT


My wife, when reminiscing her college daysin Oneonta NY, talks about a
folk singer named Jack Hardy.  He has recorded because my wife has
some LPs of his.  Can anyone tell me if he is still performing or
recording.  Anything of his on CD?

Thanks
Steve Albin
stevea@zeus.bony.com

Xref: sparky rec.music.folk:7725 rec.music.country.western:4047
From: wegeng.henr801c@xerox.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Austin City Limits?
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:24:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Xerox
Originator: wegeng@ogre

In article <1992Nov11.020052.17730@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes) writes:
>When Fund-raising week comes around again, and your PBS affiliate begs you
>for money to continue providing "programming for you," remember (and remind
>them) how deeply they considered your wishes during the rest of the year.

Actually, it doesn't really bother me that my local station is not currently
broadcasting the ACL reruns.  I have a VCR, and could have taped these
shows the first time around had I been that interested.  What bothers me
is that the new season doesn't start until January.

/Don
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From: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
Subject: Re: Tom Lehrer
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:29:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.014940.19718@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9040513@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Andrea Aldridge) writes:

   Further elucidation on the composer of "The Vatican Rag"...

   Tom Lehrer teaches mathematics at Harvard. 

This is perhaps 30-35 years out of date.  He was a graduate student and
teaching assistant at Harvard.  According to a recent discussion in
sci.math, he never finished his Ph.D. there (I don't remember where
he did finish).  For many years he's been teaching statistics and
musical comedy at University of California Santa Cruz.

--
Gary A. Martin, Assistant Professor of Mathematics, UMass Dartmouth
Martin@cis.umassd.edu
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From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Subject: Help with lyrics: "Bold Reynard"
Reply-To: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 8 Nov 92 22:07:10 GMT

I've been using the tune of "Bold Reynard", from June Tabor's "Ashes and
Diamonds" album, as an instrumental for a long time, and I finally decided
that it would be nice to learn the words.  Alas, the cut turns out to be
one of the more extreme examples of Tabor's use of regional pronunciation,
which is to say, it's damn near incomprehensible, at least to a colonial
like myself.  After an extended session with headphones and equalizer,
I came up with the following incomplete lyric, and I'm wondering if
anyone happens to know the missing lines, or if some fellow Tabor fan
with a better ear for British accents might be willing to help me out.
Even wild guesses would be appreciated; if I can't come up with the
officially correct words I'll just have to make something up.

Anyway, here's what I've got so far.  Words I'm unsure about are
surrounded by question marks, and lines I couldn't make out are surrounded
by LOTS of question marks.

    A good many gentlemen take great delight
    In hunting bold Reynard the fox.
    For the very best food he does eat in the night,
    And ?? lives on ?? bold fat geese and ducks.
    In Ashburton Copse I did lie,
    And I led an extraordinary race.
    ??????????? <something about lambs' tails?> ????????????
    The farmers they all did me pace.

    All for me ?? large horses and hounds ?? they did send,
    The huntsman he swore I must die.
    Which made all the hair on my coat stand on end
    And caused me from the young ones to fly.
    All down ?? Stony Lane ?? they did run me,
    And I gave them a very good race.
    When I entered the woods I did rest then,
    The hounds they then followed apace.

    All through the wild woods they gave chase and did gain
    The gamekeeper saw me go by.
    They chased me out onto the wide open plain,
    It was then they did bite at my thigh.
    All on stony fields they did kill me
    Them bloodthirsty dogs did me follow.
    They tore my old coat all in pieces,
    Which caused the glad huntsman to hollow.  [ i.e. "holler", I guess ]

    Your pardon dear huntsman ?? <"for unspotted game" is what I hear> ??
    The keeper has caused me to die.
    ????????? <can't make it out at all> ??????????
    And there's ?? little that's better than I ??  
    And now that bold Reynard is dead
    We'll go to the ?? <name of a tavern, presumably> ?? and dine.
    ?????????? <probably something about eating, from the context> ??????????
    And drink up his health in good wine.

aTdHvAaNnKcSe for any help.
--
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Xref: sparky rec.music.folk:7487 soc.culture.celtic:7214
From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Hamish Henderson's politics
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:09:27 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Followup-To: soc.culutre.celtic
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

dmr@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Daniel Rosenblum) wrote:
> In the early 1980's, I heard Dick Gaughan mention that Henderson had been
> a Communist, but that he broke with the Communists to join the Scots
> Nationalists.  Gaughan didn't agree with that particular decision, because,
> he said, the Scots Nationalists believe that an independent Scotland would
> be socialist, and he saw no way that NATO would allow an independent
> socialist Scotland for more than about five seconds.  After all, he pointed
> out, look what happened in Chile, which hadn't nearly the strategic or
> economic importance (location & oil) of Scotland.

Which is the sort of defeatism that led the CP through the 80s into its
predictable oblivion (the logical extrapolation is that NATO wouldn't allow
an independent socialist UK either, so sit on your bum and wait for the
Second Coming^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H World Revolution).  Bea
Campbell is now cosying up to the Christian fundie right and the rest of
the ex-CP leadership are looking for similar flat stones to crawl under.
As far as I know Henderson's commitment to Gramsci's version of Marxism (he
has been the major translator of Gramsci into English) is unchanged.

Henderson has been involved in one major issue that did get the CP and the
Scots Nats on the same side; the poll tax.  He was one of the signatories
of a commitment not to pay it by 100 well-known Scots; I can't remember if
Gaughan was one, but I'd have expected him to be if he still lives here
(does he?).  This sort of vanguardist stuff wasn't the major reason the
poll tax was defeated, but it must have helped a bit.  

(Incidentally, has the humiliating defeat of the Poll Tax ever been
reported properly in the American media?  Since it was the biggest
climbdown by the government of a major power since the US pullout of
Vietnam, and the biggest mass resistance movement in the UK since the
Chartists in the 1840's, there isn't much excuse for ignoring it).

-- 
--  Jack Campin    room G092, Computing Science Department, Glasgow University,
17 Lilybank Gardens, Glasgow G12 8RZ, Scotland   TEL: 041 339 8855 x6854 (work)
INTERNET: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk or via nsfnet-relay.ac.uk    FAX: 041 330 4913
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From: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
Subject: Re: Jack Hardy
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 11:46:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.170344.622@bony1.bony.com> stevea@zeus.bony.com (Steve Albin) writes:


   My wife, when reminiscing her college daysin Oneonta NY, talks about a
   folk singer named Jack Hardy.  He has recorded because my wife has
   some LPs of his.  Can anyone tell me if he is still performing or
   recording.  Anything of his on CD?

Sure is.  He comes to the Boston area a couple of times a year, and
has been based for many years in New York, where he was a founder
of the Fast Folk Musical Magazine.  He is the focal (or is that folkal)
point of a songwriters' group, whose participants came to be known
as Jack's Crows, from whence Gorka's album title.  He tours in Europe
frequently.  I'm aware of two CDs: Two of Swords and Through, though there
may be others.



--
Gary A. Martin, Assistant Professor of Mathematics, UMass Dartmouth
Martin@cis.umassd.edu
From: tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu (Theron Friedman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Ultimate top 10 of folkalbums
Date: 11 Nov 92 00:46:52 GMT
Reply-To: tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson

Just to broaden the context ..... these all sat on the turntable for days
and weeks after I first got them. (Not that a number of others haven't also
done so)
	 [my album collection hasn't arrived yet, so don't have the exact
names of some of these. Apologies.]


1) The Folkways Anthology of American Folk Music (Vol I, II, III)
	... 6 lps
2) Reverend Gary Davis & Pink Anderson 
	Rag Guitar. Folkways
3) Joseph Spence
	Also Folkways. Oh well.
4) The Scandinavian Fiddle collection in the Nonesuch Explorers series

5) "Pirin" - first album by the Pirin (Bulgarian Macedonia) Ensemble
	- Balkanton records
6) Boris Karlov - bulgarian horos - Balkanton records
	This Boris is an accordian player, not a movie monster
7) Gabby - Gabby Pahinui, Hawaiian slack key guitar - Island records?

8) Morris On

9) Phillipe Bruno - French Canadian Accordian - Philo records

10) Nana Moscouri sings old French folk songs
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From: cockburn@edieng.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn)
Subject: Re: ENYA - "The Lady of Shalott"
Organization: Digital Equipment Co. Ltd., Reading, England
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 07:16:27 GMT


In article <15411@auspex-gw.auspex.com>, johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes...
>In article <Nov.9.16.08.55.1992.10742@andromeda.rutgers.edu> hauk@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Keira E. Hauk) writes:
>|A few months ago I heard a set of unreleased Enya songs, on the radio.
>|Among many beautiful melodoes and Irish folk songs she sang her own version of  Tennyson's poem, "The Lady of Shalott."  
>|

Enya does have some new material due out in the next few days. Definitely
a single, and possibly an album too.

I'll probably be in the record shop on Wednesday, more details after that.

Craig
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