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From: harelb@math.cornell.edu (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator)
Subject: The Crimes of Nicaragua (III)
Organization: misc.activism.progressive on UseNet ; ACTIV-L@UMCVMB
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 08:44:04 GMT

The Crimes of Nicaragua (III)


For a deeper analysis, see first and foremost the Oxfam America report
on Nicaragua for '83-'84; send the command GET OXFAM84 NICARAG ACTIV-L
to LISTSERV@UMCVMB.BITNET.
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"Nicaragua was honored by UNESCO for its National Literacy Campaign,
which reduced the nation's illiteracy rate from over 50 percent to
below 15 percent. The revolution has brought health services,
especially preventative medicine, to thousands of Nicaraguans who
previously had no such care, and in 1982 the World Health Organization
awarded Nicaragua its prize for the most significant achievement in
public health by a Third World nation..."

[See Thomas W. Walker (editor) _Nicaragua: the First Five Years_ New
York, Praeger Publishers, 1985]

[From: John Lamperti, _What Are We Afraid Of?_, published by South End
Press (1988) and available also through the American Friends (as in Quaker)
Service Committee for $5 plus postage; write or call:
Literature Resources // American Friends Service Committee
1501 Cherry St. // Philadelphia, PA 19102
The phone nubmer is (215)-241-7048 or 7167
Free catalog available as well at this number/address]


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* Nicaragua
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  WHO-WERE CONTRAS    Contras' origins; make-up; practices - documented
  FSLN     H-RIGHTS  Documented HRs comparison w/Somoza,Guat,ES,others
  FSLN     MISKITOS  Sandinista treatment of Miskitos;Charges & Realit
  FSLN     NICAJEWS  Debunks charges of Sandinista 'Anti-Semitism'
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  OXFAM84  NICARAG   Oxfam America's 1984 report on Nicaragua, in full
  FSLN     ACHIEVE   Documented: achievements of the Nica. revolution
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  NICA-84  ELECTION  Documented: Fair under Sandinistas; US subversion
  FAIRNESS NICA-USA  Flwup:`Is Nicaragua More Democratic than the US?'
  NICRAGUA ELECTION  Study in US subversion of '90 Nicaraguan election

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Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer)
Subject: Re: Somoza's Kingdom (Addendum)
Organization: Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 19:32:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.084326.29095@mont.cs.missouri.edu> harelb@math.cornell.edu (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator) writes:

>    In Honduras, plantation workers have been jailed by government
>    troops for organizing unions.

According to Amnesty International, Union organizers where a prime target
for Sandinista repression. If the union worker refused to ally himself with
the Sandinistas, he could be jailed, just like in Honduras.

But then, Harel likes the Sandinistas and doesn't like Honduras. That
is why he thinks one form of repression is bad but it is OK for others
to do the exact same thing. Ends justifies the means and all that.

  Allen
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From: Dorothy Morse <dmorse@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Date: 07 Sep 92 08:39 PDT
Subject: SOMALIA: As if hunger is not bad en
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1296500339:000:1976
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!dmorse    Sep  7 08:39:00 1992


From: Dorothy Morse <dmorse>
Subject: SOMALIA: As if hunger is not bad en

/* Written  7:41 pm  Sep  6, 1992 by kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu in cdp:soc.cult.afric */
/* ---------- "SOMALIA: As if hunger is not bad en" ---------- */
Excerpts from the AP:

   U.N. Warns Of Toxic-Waste Dumping   
     In Somalia As U.S. Sends Aid      
                 ---
    NAIROBI, Kenya - The U.N.
environment chief said Italian
companies plan to profit from Somalia's
chaos by shipping toxic waste there,
according to a report Sunday.
    The move further threatens health
in the devastated nation.
 [..............]
    The claims involving toxic waste by
Mostafa Tolba, head of the
Nairobi-based U.N. Environmental
Program, were reported in the
English-language Sunday Nation
newspaper and confirmed by an aide.
    Tolba said Italian companies are
building two incinerators to be
installed in Somalia that would handle
at least two 550,000-ton shipments of
toxic waste next year for an estimated
profit of $4 million to $6 million.
    Tolba said that to protect his
sources he wouldn't identify the
Italian companies or say where they
planned to ship the waste.
    The Italian companies are taking
advantage of Somalia's lack of
government and general instability,
said Tolba.
    Tolba reportedly made his remarks
during an address Friday at the
International Center for Research in
Agroforestry.
    Tolba said the dumping could
aggravate the destruction of Somalia's
ecosystem and threaten further loss of
life in the ravaged nation, where tens
if not hundreds of thousands already
have died from the combined effects of
drought and warfare.
    It wasn't possible to get comment
from Tolba, whose office wouldn't
release his home telephone number.
    Italian government officials in
Rome also weren't immediately available
for comment.
[............]

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Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: bobh@troy.uucp (22131-hettmansperger)
Subject: Re: Imposters in the Temple (2 of 7)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 19:17:40 GMT
Keywords: treachery trickery deceit deception

In article <BuLFpK.HxM@news.cso.uiuc.edu> bfrg9732@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brian F. Redman) writes:
>
>Imposters in the Temple:

blah blah blah.  Didn't we just see this piece of University bashing a couple
of months ago?

-Bob
From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Rich Richer, Poor Poorer
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:35:21 GMT
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder, CO

The statement: "There are more poor people today than there were".

seems to have been accepted but countered with: "Many of these
poor people are now better off due to social mobility".

If these two statements are accepted then the obvious conlcusion is
that even more people who were either wealthy or at least middle class
are poor.  This indicates that many people are worse off than they
were while some are better off.  Is this really a defense of the 80's?
I would claim that this is due to the switch to a (non-unionized) 
service economy and also indicates that the US economy is a
zero-sum game, at best.
-- 

		dingo in boulder	(dean@vexcel.com)
From: 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (Wild Child)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: disparity between rich and poor widening
Date: 13 Sep 92 23:17:03 GMT
Organization: University of South Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: sirius.itd.adelaide.edu.au
Originator: daemon@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au

In article <1992Sep13.111959.101@anomaly.sbs.risc.net>, kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
> 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (Wild Child) writes:
> 
>>I think it's about time some of the 'poor' stopped wallowing in their own self
>>pity, get of their ar**s and get a decent education instead of being satisfied
>>with shovelling dirt for a living. It's also about time intellectual property
>>laws were abolished.
> 
> #define dripping.sarcasm.mode
> 
> Why should they? After all, they've got the Government, and "taxing the rich"
> to take care of them. After all, its not THEIR fault they were borne into
> poverty!

YES YES ! THANKYOU! Somebody who agrees with me on a point! Some of the poor
were BORN that way - a crying shame if you ask me - they are the losers in the
feudal games going on at the moment - but they could also do a damn sight more
to help themselves than to bitch about how rich the richer.

Just ask Mr Rick Adams what he thinks of me - he's another dumb socialist who
STILL equates being BORN rich with being a capitalist.

> 
OK, you can turn it off, now.
> #undef dripping.sarcasm.mode
Thankyou.

Sarcasm, eh? Sounds closer to the truth than you think....

> 
> Remember the saying:
> 
> If you're going to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always count on having the
> support of Paul.
Hehe...
> 
> MD
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#! rnews 478
From: 8918877t@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: parsing a sentence
Date: 14 Sep 92 08:48:49 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

Can Someone make me up a sentence, or paragraph, with the following
words :

mutliation,  chilli pepper, carnage, sapphire, donkey, rose petal, 
vanilla fudge,  battery acid, whale bone corset, and 
sudden decceleration trauma



thanx.
#! rnews 2460
From: etad@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: Document that! (was Re: Violent antisemitism?)
Date: 14 Sep 92 10:35:06 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

In article <1992Sep10.122810.20724@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal) writes:
> In article <matthew.715669709@munna> matthew@.cs.mu.oz (Maciek
> Blasikiewicz) writes:
> 
>>Do you have statistics indicating "that the individual poles were
>>anti-semitic"? I mean, what percentage were so, to what extent, etc.
> 
> I find it most interesting that after twisting and turning to find ways of
> minimizing Polish antisemitism, the final recourse is to demand
> documentation, statistics, and other numbers to gain time for another
> round of twisting and revisionism.

Dear Sam,
I think, what you wrote above is really, really sick.
> 
> Take a hint.  Many of the descriptions come from personal and family
> descriptions and experience.  There are an awful lot of us who have family
> that survived but lost other family members to Polish antisemitism.  Some
> of us can still point out that there were Poles that did help Jews  or
> that weren't antisemitic.

Take a hint. Alexander Solzhenitzin, a Russian author of the monography on
crimes of russian communist regime and KGB, "Archipelag Gulag", managed to
gather thousands of pages of solid documentation on the subject. All this work
had been carried out in a country where at that time nobody would dare to talk
politics even with their closest family. You refuse to give any evidence
whatsoever (even names and exact statements of these people who, as you claim,
know it first hand). And, all these people who can be asked to speak up are
happy to do so (unless these who know, remain silent, and those who are noisy,
know nothing). Unfortunately, proper documentation of statements like yours is
essential, because it is the only way to establish some historical (at least
factual) truth. Unless (please, think about it carefully for yourself), it is
not the truth that you want, but noise and stench.

Regards,
--Arek Dadej

> -- 
> Sam Saal      kingfish!saal OR saal@kingfish.att.com
> 	Vayiftach HaShem et Peah Ha`Aton
#! rnews 1933
From: etad@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: Document that! (was Re: Violent antisemitism?)
Date: 14 Sep 92 11:06:56 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

In article <1992Sep10.155611.29946@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com
writes:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer)
Subject: Re: The Crimes of Nicaragua (V)
Organization: Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:11:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.084316.12270@mont.cs.missouri.edu> harelb@math.cornell.edu (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator) writes:

>The Crimes of Nicaragua (V)...

You would think a posting about the crimes of the Sandinsitas would
mention all those political prisoners. But then Harel is pretending
they don't exist.

>*Over 150,000 nicaraguans displaced or relocated.

Interesting harel should bring this one up. Most of those where moved
where Contra supporters forcibly moved to make it harder for the
Contras to get local help.

Strangely enough (or not so strangely when you think about it) the
Salvadoran govenrment did the exact same thing for the exact same
reason. Dispite Harel's violent objection to the Salvadoran program
of forced relocation he seems to see no problem when his friends
do the exact same thing.

>* Defense budget increased from 7 percent of GDP in 1980-1981 to 40
>percent in 1985.

This was also in the cards. In 1980 (more than a year before there where
any Contras) the Sandinsitas had five times as many tanks as all their
neighbors combined.

When you intend to set up a dictatorship you got to have guns.

   Allen
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Xref: sparky alt.activism:16046 alt.individualism:5367 alt.pagan:8939
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,soc.culture.latin-america
From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
Subject: Re: Who Were the "Contras" ? (V)
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:36:22 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <9209060955.AA18340@tba.msi.cornell.edu> harelb@math.cornell.edu (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator) writes:

What Harel neglects to mention is that the Contra commander in
question was executed by the contras themselves for his actions.  Tell
me, Harel, how many of their own killers did the Sandinistas execute?

(For documentation, see Dickey's "With the Contras")

>Who Were the "Contras" ? (V)

>"..The contras cross the border from their bases in Honduras to commit
>acts of sabotage: burning cooperatives, blowing up bridges, killing
>and kidnapping teachers, health workers, and farmers.

>"The victims of contra terror include people like the Barreras, a
>couple in their 60's who were well known and respected in the town of
>Esteli'. Last year the Barreras volunteered to help pick coffee near
>the boder because they felt this was part of their duty as
>Christians.

>"The couple was kidnapped by contras and taken to a town in Honduras.
>There they were kept outside for four months and tortured daily as an
>example --their torturers said-- of what would happen to Christians
>who support the revolution. Later, other coffee pickers who managed to
>escape brought back word that the Barreras were dead.

>"By September, 1983, the contras had killed nearly 700 Nicaraguans and
>had caused $600 million in damage to the economy..."
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From: jfh@reef.cis.ufl.edu (James F. Hranicky)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Who Were the "Contras" ? (III)
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:29:18 GMT
Followup-To: alt.activism
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

In article <EedqV8G00YV7I1pXgc@andrew.cmu.edu> ls3q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Lisa M. Smith) writes:
>I'm no expert on either tax systems or gasoline consumption or
>inflation, however, I have noticed something upon moving from a state
>with relatively low gas taxes, Ohio, to one with relatively high gas
>taxes, Pennsylvania:  gasoline is not the only thing that is
>significantly more expensive.  Gasoline in Pittsburgh is about 10 - 12
>cent a gallon more expensive than in Cleveland.  These two cities are
>comparable in many ways, including cost of living.  I have noticed,
>though that anything requiring transportation is also much more
>expensive in Pittsburgh, especially groceries.  
>
>It seems to me that gasoline taxes may contribute seriously to inflation.

PLEASE LISTEN!!!!!!!!

The term 'inflation' has a very confused definition.
PRICE inflation occurs when prices rise. In a free market, a rise in prices
siginifies a rise in demand.

The single cause of the overall rise in prices of all goods and services
since 1914 is an INCREASE IN THE MONEY SUPPLY!!!!!

This is the proper definition for inflation.

If one looks at the consumer price index for the 19th century, one will 
notice jumps in the index for the wars (1812, Civil). During these wars
the government increased the money supply ($400 million in greenbacks for
the Civil war) to help finance the wars.

If one looks at the CPI for the 20th century, one notices steady upward
curve starting in 1913, the year the Federal Reserve was instituted. 
(c.f. Greider, "Secrets of the Temple," 1987). Since its inception the Fed
has dedicated itself to debasing our currency over and over.

Our wonderful boom of the 80's was caused by a doubling of the money supply
from $400 billion to $800 billion.
(c.f Salsman, "Breaking the Banks: Central Banking Problems and Free Banking
 Solutions," 1990).

The current recession is the market attempting to realign itself to the true
supply and demand curves. Inflation creates malinvestments because it 
temporarily keeps afloat businesses which should go under, until the inflation-
ary boom dies. 

This is the MOST important flaw in our current system to correct (followed 
immediately by paying back our incomprehensibly huge debt.)

Inflation is a process which must eventually end in the destruction of an
economy. The German Reichsbank during the period from 1920-3 issued the 
equivalent of over a QUINTILLION marks. Prices rose so fast that workers
had to be paid two or three times a day so they could rush out and buy as many
goods as possible. In restaurants, one would have to pay before dinner,
because the price would have risen substantially by the time one was finshed.

Please, if you really want to help stop the destructive trends in this 
country, this is where to begin.

Jim Hranicky (jfh@reef.cis.ufl.edu)
Xref: sparky alt.activism:16276 talk.politics.misc:45405 soc.culture.latin-america:3479
From: jfh@reef.cis.ufl.edu (James F. Hranicky)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Who Were the "Contras" ? (III)
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:36:42 GMT
Followup-To: alt.activism
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

[deleted]
>
>	Personally, I'm interested in seeing some direct responses to the
>original thread - since if Bush wins my wife and I are giving serious
>thought to emmigrating. Rights are too important to give away the way
>Americans have been doing during the last decade.
>

People have given away rights in this manner for almost 100 years.
Why not stay and try to change current trends?
I don't know how much better the rest of the world is...

Jim Hranicky (jfh@reef.cis.ufl.edu)

"Those who know what's best for us
 Must rise and save us from ourselves."

--RUSH
From: adamsr@netcom.com (Rick Adams)
Subject: Re: Live Online Conference re: US Elections
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 16:14:24 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

	Hmmmmm.

	Your message is dated September 6th.

	It announces an open conference on September 4th.

	Do you work on the Bush campaign? :-)

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