From: wpr@atlanta.dg.com (Bill Rawlins)
Subject: Re: A paper I wrote for a speech class
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 14:05:33 GMT
Organization:  DG. SID, Atlanta, GA

In article <1992Dec22.022237.16012@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec21.221328.29662@rambo.atlanta.dg.com> wpr@atlanta.dg.com (Bill Rawlins) writes:
|> >In article <237@spchsys.spchsys>, jjt@spchsys.spchsys (John J. Turley) writes: 
|> >   Most of the Jed-haters hate being told that there are
|> >   divine laws   which they do not like; for example, laws against fornication.
|> 
|> To bad you don't know what fornication means. Before ramming the bible down
|> our throats perhaps you should read a biblical commentary. The word
|> fornication is derived from the name of the archs where prostitutes hung
|> out. Saying not to visit prostitutes is not the same thing as saying not
|> to have sex outside of marriage.

      Sounds like you just took religion 101.  You sound like I did when
      I was a student.  You are ruled by your hormones and you develop an
      ethic to support it.  I know what fornication means - It is from the
      Greek word "pornia", which, curiously enough, is where we derive the
      term "pornography".  It stands for all impure sexual
      relationships.  Read Hebrews 13:4 - The marriage bed is undefiled, 
      but the pornia God will judge.  It is your own self-serving ethic
      which says that fornication is only going to prostitutes.
|>  
|> Questions of the existance of God aside why should I take a messenger
|> seriously who hasn't even taken the time to understand his own religion?
|>
      Jed is one of the most well-learned men you will meet.  He knows not 
       only the Bible, but is extremely well-learned on history.
|>
|> >   not accept the message because I do not like the messenger.  Okay, the
|> >   loss is yours and your excuse won't help you on judgment day.  
|> 
|> Your threats won't change reality.

     I make no threats.  The question you have to grapple with is:
     "What is reality?"  "Is there an absolute ethic, or can I 'roll my own?' "
|> 
|> >   Jed's dogma
|> >   is the Bible.  Take the time to investigate its claims.
|> 
|> I have, I've found neither evidence to prove or disprove gods existance.
|> However I know that if there is a God and the bible is his word that Jed
|> is 100% wrong, because he and those like him have twisted the meaning of
|> the words.

       How so?
|> 
|> >Examine the Bible and repent (which means to
|> >    turn from your ways and surrender to God's ways). 
|> 
|> But if the bible is the word of God surrendering to what fundementalists
|> demand would be to go against God. The Gospels are quite clear, if I was
|> to become a Christian tomorrow I wouldn't be ashamed about having sex with
|> another man, I would be ashamed that I had not given all my money to the
|> poor.

       Even nature teaches that homosexuality is wrong.  A little
       anatomical analysis will reveal this in about five seconds.
        The question is, "Does God care?"  Yes, He destroyed Sodom and
        Gomorrah because of it.  Read Romans chapter 1.  And Hebrews 13:4.
        
        There is a way of forgiveness and the power to do right
        for the Christian.  Repent now, and God will help you step out.
    
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    - Bill
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