From: chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Revised consistency check
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:00:46 GMT
Organization: California State University: Sacramento

In article <23524@oasys.dt.navy.mil> bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense) writes:
>In talk.abortion, chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney) writes:
>>In article <23447@oasys.dt.navy.mil> bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense) wri
>>tes:
>>>In talk.abortion, chaneysa@nextnet.ccs.csus.edu (Steve Chaney : Borg Operating
>> Space Systems, Revision 2.0) writes:
>
>>>Hey, I'm toplerant of christian views that exist in my house now. WHat's
>>>your point? That I'd tell them they're wrong? You bet I would. I'd also
>>>explain why they're wrong, and being how they don't come from a severely
>>>dysfunctional family like yours, they'd probably know how to listen
>>>and reason, provided a dipshit like you doesn't come along and brainwash
>>>them while they're young.
>
>>Our family isn't dysfunctional. We, unlike you, have ways of dealing
>>with dysfunctional and disobedient elements who have no sense of right
>
>Yup, you throw them out of the house and pretend they no longer exist.
>You can't accept anything that doesn't meld to your singular view of
>how life should be. Wonderful! A bunch of abusive clones.

And if parents so much as yell at their kids, they're being abusive.

Have you ever heard of Dr. Spock, the one whose books spawned a
generation of kid.monsters? 

You remind me of him.

>>or wrong. Such as telling one's parents off whenever they so pleased
>>to do so.
>
>I never stated that this was the case in my house (meaning my parents,
>not my own, as I live by myself at the moment), although my parents
>did accept back talk when it was correct, as they did not believe themselves
>to be infallible assholes with all the answers to everything in the
>world. They did not, however, brook disrespectfulness in any form, which
>appear to be concepts that you are completely unfamiliar with. "telling
>one's parents off whenever they so pleased" indicates a disrespectfulness
>of one's parents, which is a different scenario, but my parents still
>loved us, even if we did this, although something in the relationship
>might change for a while until the behavior altered to soemthing acceptable
>to both parties. In your family, what you've written of it, the *only*
>acceptable behavior was complete subjugation to mom and dad, the infallible
>duo. And you wonder why I state that it was dysfunctional. Any psychiatrists
>out there that would love a shot at this one?

No, there's been no such thing as absolute subjugation. My brother got
more out of hand than just arguing. He kept his own hours, and was,
more than I am now come my Internet access, a part-time kid; I hardly
ever saw him much. Then he didn't want to put any money into the house
(well, that's just 2 grades worse than me - I do it occasionally), and
he was gone for days at a time at friends' houses. 

We disagree, but we don't take cheap shots at each other around here
or slam the gavel of authority. It's when a parent comes home from
work to face a fight with their own kids, that trouble occurs.

>>Now, I know that's not a bad thing in your house, and your kids feel
>>free to do that to you every day if they wish. After all, to teach
>>them otherwise, means a dysfunctional family.
>
>As usual, you *know* everything. <snicker>

As if you're acting any better? 

Anything less than absolute wishy-washy tolerance, is Fascist to you.

>>Sounds like you've been snorting this stuff too much.
>
>You should switch off the formaldehyde, it beginning work on that last
>cell.

I'm not the one shooting it up the arm, Bense. Sounds like _you_ are,
at times.

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