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From: stclair@ldgo.columbia.edu (moanna stclair)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GL: Update for Tuesday, December 15
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:42:35 GMT
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Organization: Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory

In article <1992Dec16.023351.28254@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> tcarsten@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Teresa C D Carstensen) writes:
>
>she is, she doesn't understand how he can do it. (I say they should kill off 
>Ed because *he* is standing in the way of possible romantic storylines for 
>Mo.  At the very least, they should let her find out about him and Lil, then 
>have her sleep with Roger just to retaliate.  Ed would try to reconcile with
>Mo, only to find out that Mo and Roger's one-night-stand had awakened them 
>to some long-repressed feelings they had for each other.  Then, just as Mo
>dumps Ed for Roger, Lil realizes what a jerk he really is and won't have 
>anything to do with him, either.  But I seem to digress...)
>
I prefer this scenario to the one where they are planning to kill off 
Maureen.  I think this would cause much more tension and make a much 
more interesting story line than what they have going now.  Since Ed 
and Roger have such a long history (didn't Roger rape one of Ed's 
wives?) and they absolutely hate each other, having saintly Mo (the 
one "good" person in town who doesn't think that Roger is all that bad)
fall for Roger would be great.

 I think you should write the show Teresa!   

>-- 
>tcarsten@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu         

Moanna
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From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Subject: DOOL: Sex! [& Dark Shadows]
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 07:24:04 GMT
Organization: Boo!  


In <1992Dec17.134859.11074@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.j.mizerak) writes:

>In article <1992Dec16.125139.9572@sadtler.com> rick@sadtler.com (Rick Morris) writes:

While I'm dropping in on this thread I might as well comment on the
main subject before veering off.

I've only been watching DOOL steadily for a year and a half, and I can
honestly say I find the women characters to be a bad lot.  Let's see,
whom do I and did I actually like.

Julie - Very likable, attractive, etc.

Ginger - Fun, not the biggest beauty but certainly appealing.

Uh, Uh, Uh.. I think that's about it.  I thought Izzy was a vacumn.
Carly's generally nauseating.  I don't mind TracyCarrie, but she's
not appealing.  Oh yeah, I did like Desire.  And I still think Alice
has a certain appeal.  Molly was boring.  Oh yeah, I did like Danielle
a lot.  And I think I would have liked Kayla if I didn't have to watch her
with Shane.  I don't find Kim attractive or unattractive.  Oh, and I did
like Gabby, and still think she should've been paired up with Ivan.
Billie?  You've got to be kidding.  

I think there's a trend here ... I only like over 35s on this show.

>>Rose mentioned Danger.  I found Angelique on Dark Shadows to be

>Do you only mean the old ones?   I watched the new version last
>year and thought it was the best show on TV!  I loved it!   Now,
>which one was Angelique?   Was she the blonde, the bad one?   

Yah, Lysette Anthony.  Very nice.  I think I met her at a DS convention.

>Yeah, she was cute, but I really had it for Joanna Going.  
>Wowowowowowowowowowow. 

I think Joanna's on one of the new fall series - Going to Extremes, I
would guess.

   And there was also something about 
>the doctor, what the hell was her name?

Her show name was Dr. Julia Hoffman; real name Barbara Steele.  I
peferred Grayson Hall, who played the original Dr. Hoffman, and later
Euphemia on OLTL.

Greg
From: ktomlin@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Keith P. Tomlin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Y&R
Keywords: Victor & Jill
Date: 12 Dec 92 01:48:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

In article <1992Dec11.180906.17356@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> pml@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (patricia.m.lott) writes:
>I for one was rooting for Jill this time.  I had hoped
>. . .
[more stuff deleted]
>I'd like to hear some comments from all of you fans.

I agree with you.  I really think Jill has changed.  I don't think she was
interested in Victor just because he is powerful, and whatever the writers
want us to think about him besides him being a slime.. Anyway, I digress.. 
Actually, I hope Jill and John get together.  The thought of Victor with 
yet another woman makes me ill.
 
Anyway, I think the "new" Jill is good for John.


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From: riddle@bach.udel.edu (Tammy Riddle)
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: Weather in the Bay Area
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:14:54 GMT

In article <92346.123821NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET> Nelson Broat <NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>In article <1g8ikuINN5am@agate.berkeley.edu>, sally@remarque.berkeley.edu (S. A.
>Wilson) says:
>>
>>Doreen, Mad Poet, Bill, and the rest of you Bay
>>Area folks how are things? During DOCL today
>>we had constant scrolling messages about flooding
>>in various counties in your area. Are you folks
>>okay? Supposedly you guys are in for quite a bit
>>of rain--not much for you folks back East, and in
>>the South, but for us quite a bit--we in Sacramento
>>are scheduled for maybe 1 1/2 to 2 inches in the next
>>few hours. And best yet the Sierras are predicted
>>with 4 or more feet of snow. Skiing finalmente.
>>Also here in Sacto. we are only a few 10th of an inch
>>away from our normal a first in god knows how many
>>years.
>
>Here in NY water along the Hudson is flush with the piers. The FDR drive
>along the east side of Manhattan has shut down because it is under water.
>And from what I understand they are measuring snow in Pa. in terms of feet and
>not inches. So yes, no problem in these here parts! :-) Don't know whats
>happening elsewhere. Tammy? Can you hear me? Pop your head out of that snow


I wish what we had was snow, but we got rain just like you.  The storm you
are having/had today was what we had last night!!!  My parents electricity
was out all night, and my father had to bail water out of their basement
because the subpump wasn't working naturally, and their house is surrounded
by a lot of underground springs!!!  YUCK!!


>
>What B-day! Ya gotta love it. I do.
>
>>Spudnix--
>
>Nelson



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From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Mrs. Bo Brady
Date: 20 Dec 92 20:41:27 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET (Nelson Broat) writes:


>In article <1992Dec16.180337.29496@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com
>(timothy.j.mizerak) says:
>>
>>In article <921216080632.221b@VAX.CSUN.EDU> VECTRGSJ@VAX.CSUN.EDU (Gail Said
>>Johnson) writes:

>heh heh. But in regards to your last sentence, what is there to
>understand? If a person decides to call themselves Mrs. (woman's first
>name) (husband's last name) whats the problem. As Doreen has stated

I don't think you understand completely.  Tim (and I - who he was defending
in the first place) have no problem with this situation:

Ms. Jane Doe marries Mr. John Smith and decides to call herself
Mrs. Jane Smith.  

We do have a problem if Ms. Jane Doe marries Mr. John Smith and calls
herself Mrs. John Smith.

See the difference?

>just because a woman (or for that matter a man) chooses to be identified
>with another last name, that does not take away from their true identity
>of who they really are or what they're all about. I don't understand
>why you find it odd. Curious, how does your wife refer to herself?
>As Mrs. Susan Mizerak, or does she use her maiden name?

Our problem w/ Carly was that she refered to herself as Mrs.Bo Brady,
if she said, Mrs. Carly Brady, that would have been fine.

In the first instance, she takes a new last name - she becomes part of
a new family.  In the second instance - she becomes an extension of
her husband.  She is saying that her name is irrelevant - she is the
woman who married John Smith and that is all that matters.

It is her perogative to do this, but I find it degrading.  It would
also be her perogative to lick her husband's shoes every day after
he came home from work, but I would find this degrading also. (Among
other things)

:)  (This is what happens to me when I have to come in to work on
a Sunday)

I understand the first instance, and I don't find that degrading, but
I still can't bring myself to do it in my own life.  I just identify
too strongly with my own full name to change it.  I know I'm in
the minority.  I guess I didn't listen when I was told that my last
name was temporary and I shouldn't get used to it because I did anyway.


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From: reddy@88open.ORG (Wasavika Reddy)
Subject: Re: SB: Gina
Reply-To: reddy@ankara.UUCP (Wasavika Reddy)
Organization: 88open Consortium Ltd., San Jose
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 22:39:53 GMT
Originator: reddy@ankara

In article <92349.204039MLS131@psuvm.psu.edu> MLS131@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Is Gina annoying anyone else as much as me?  Sometimes Robin is so
>wonderful, but these last few days, she's been terrible.  It makes it
>impossible to understand hou Lionel could be in love with her.  I'm tired of
>her pushing the Lilly and Ted thing!
>
>I also think that Sophia is doing a wonderful acting job!  She's as good as the
>original Gina when she was addicted!  I really am believing that she has no
>control over her body!
>
>As long as everyone is weather reporting, here in State College, PA it snowed
>for 48 hrs straight.  We got about 19 inches and Penn State University closed
>down for the first time in over 20 years!  But the cable hung on, so SB would
>not be missed!
>                        --Margie


 Yes, Gina is as annoying as hell! Not only am I sick of her
 pushing the Lily and Ted thing but also the way she seems to
 totally lack compassion for Sophia. At first it seemed in
 character for her, but now that she's seen how sick Sophia
 really is, I can't believe she's still acting like a shrew.

 I think Sophia is doing a wonderful job too. I wish she'd
 figure out Ken's real intensions soon so she and CC can get
 together and we no longer have to watch Angela and CC sucking
 face (blechh!).

 Wasavika
 
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From: DBBARBER@macc.wisc.edu (Deborah B. Barber)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: HOE: House of Elliott; more episodes: discussion of series?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 14:47:21 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Greetings to any r.a.t.s folks who follow this A&E program imported
from England.
 
 
Does anyone know if more episodes/seasons of the show were made (portraying
the sisters' trip to America) and if they will be shown on A&E?
 
 
Is anyone else out there frustrated by
some of the fits and starts of character and plot development?  for example,
I like the
Jack character, but wonder about this revival of his interest in the trauma
of wartime experiences that was dropped within half an hour!
 
Even so, I find the show enjoyable and would like to see more -- if there is
more?
 
Deb Barber
dbbarber@macc.wisc.edu
standard disclaimer here
From: ahelmers@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: MEK in SOW (spoilers!!)
Date: 12 Dec 92 22:22:25 EST
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

In article <1992Dec8.161346.4661@athena.mit.edu>, zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria) writes:
> 
>>Debbie Millard
>>Ft. Lauderdale...sun is shining, temp is 70's, I love it here!
> 
> I am very glad you are having fun in the sun, Debbie! You deserve
> it. I still won't forget who to come visit on my next trip to Fla! :-)
> 
> CAZ


Whoa girl...you're not gonna get out of South Fla. without visiting your own
little AMC goddaughter too, I hope you know that!  BTW, Debbie Minett mentioned
visiting this area and that reminds me:  if anyone is really truly coming,
let's get together.  I just met my first in-person net.friend, from California,
and it was a blast :).

Yo "I'll throw another kid on the barbie" Helmers
From: jreeves@emdeng.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Jacki.A.Reeves)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GL: Jilly&David&Kat&Hamp
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:30:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NCR, E&M Dayton

In article <7DEC199212112120@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu>, lnorman@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Leslie Anne Norman) writes:
> 
> I agree wholeheartedly. For a long time, I just f=forwarded through any scene
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^
                      You're kidding, right?  I'm glad you learned your lesson,
though!  :-)


> with David. But he has grown on me. I think the actor who plays him has
> definite potential for a good career, and not just in soaps. He plays the
> character with a lot of intensity and complexity. It's also one character
> that is given funny, sarcastic lines. I want the David-bashing to stop also.
> 
> Leslie Norman
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From: EFS6MEF@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
Subject: DOOL: Faxing and DOOL vacation (was: Letter from SSH)
Reply-To: ecz5mxr@mvs.oac.ucla.edu
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:27:41 PST

In article <92349.132912IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET>, on 14 Dec 1992 13:29:12 MST,
<IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:

>Beth inquires:
>>Hey, does anyone still have that fax number for NBC/DOOL?
>
>  Sure do Beth, it's 818-840-4968.  Compliments of Razzie.
>
>>I just called DOOL's production offices and they were kind
>>of snippy - "We don't own a fax machine."  Yeah right.  And
>>Carly and Bo don't boink every episode.
>
>  They're probably just tired of hearing from all of the SSH fans :-)

I hope so!

>>Maybe we are getting to them just a bit??  I just finished my
>>letter about SSH and I want to get it there QUICK, plus maybe
>>send Kenny some hate mail while I'm at it.
>
>  Ooh, I love it.  Mine is most likely going to be 5 or 6 pages.  I'm
>  really incorporating a lot of neat stuff into it.  I'm also taking
>  some of the suggestions/ideas we've talked about here on the net and
>  throwing some of that in.  It's gonna be a real, neat, juice master-
>  piece when I'm done.  Yup, I'm faxing it too.
>>
>A determined to do my best to save SSH Quince

Thank you, Beth, Quince and all my fellow SSH fans!
One more helpful (I hope) hint.  DOOL goes on Xmas vacation on
the 19th, so Friday is their last day in the studio (and thus the
production office) until January 4th.  So if you're sending faxes
you may want to send them out this week.
Thanks again,
A Razzle who is also determined to save SSH!!
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From: Joanna L. Castillo <pefv702@utpe.pe.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: Happy Birthday!
X-Xxdate: Mon, 14 Dec 92 17:51:30 GMT
Organization: UT Petroleum Engineering Dept.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d15
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 16:50:49 GMT

In article <wf=9OXq00iUzE1Bagq@andrew.cmu.edu> Liz Fox, lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu writes:
>Happy Birthday to you!
>Happy Birthday to you!
>Happy Birthday dear Tater!
>Happy Birthday to you!

Yep...have a hip-hop-happy day!

>Have a great 29th (!) Birthday!!

Yowsa!  One more year and you'll be OLD!  It's so fun to rile up all 
them old folks.  Heh heh.

>Love,
>
>The Big B

and The Loquacious L.

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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Monday, 14 Dec 1992 14:02:09 MST
From: <IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Tan, The Pass
 <1992Dec11.212955.14191@chpc.utexas.edu>

Earlier I wrote:
>>They're comming to take me away
>>Tee Ha Ha
>>To the funny farm
>>Where life is beautiful all the time
>>
>>Hey, can someone slip that pass this way?
>
Dear, sweet Joanna writes:

>Okay...Quince...just use it wisely:
>
>       ----------------------------------------------
>       |  BAYVIEW SANITARIUM              +         |
>       |  ADMISSION TICKET              +++++       |
>       |  3 DAY PASS -- NO EXCEPTIONS     +         |
>       ----------------------------------------------
>
Oh thank you so very, very much Joanna.  I will be sure to use it very
wisely.  Three days is all I have huh?  Hopefully they can cure this total
basket case in three days.
>
>I think Spud thrives on the chartruese ones.
Maybe I'll trade her my chartruese one for her yellow and blue ones.
Whatda say Spud?
>
>Lemon, keeper of the pass press until Sweet Apple's return.
>
Thanks again Sis Lemon.

A finally going to be able to get some help Quince

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From: daveo@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Dave Ochs)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:56:23 GMT
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: Christmas Trees
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps

>/ hpcvra:rec.arts.tv.soaps / dwv@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Dave Vollman) /  9:24 pm  Dec 14, 1992 /

>	Now, I'm really in the spirit. We attended the annual
>	sing along Messiah last night. The BH likes that, because
>	I stress my voice so much I usually can't talk for a
>	week (my voice is between bass and tenor, so I sing bass
>	because the low notes are easier to fake).

I've always wanted to do that, but would have to travel a ways to catch
a sing-along ... intend to do it every year but never do.  Amazing ...
I also fit in that "between bas and tenor" range.  I often sing tenor
for other stuff, but I sang the baritone part in the Messiah in high
school, so I don't see any need to learn another part ... besides the
tenor part is real high!

>				| Dave Vollman (HASA "S" Division)

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From: bkrumsee@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Barb Krumsee)
Subject: ATWT: Walsh Background ?'s
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:05:05 GMT

With the possibility that RollsRoyce is Juicy's long lost half-brother, I 
began to wonder about Juicy's real past.  I vaguely remember that her husband 
(Chilly's adopted father) committed suicide. It seems to me that he was the one
who "left" her Walsh and the newspaper. Was he also Conner's and Evan's 
grandfather? Why did he commit suicide? Didn't Conner and Evan's father also 
commit suicide?

Also, what is the story with Juicy's half-siblings. I remember she said 
something to Dr. Michaels about them once long ago.

BTW, I was really surprised that EdWeenie and CabotCove are getting hitched. I 
didn't see that one coming.

KrumKake
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From: diane@greenland.island.COM ()
Subject: B & B
Originator: diane@greenland
Organization: Island Graphics, Marin County, California
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:22:16 GMT

It's nice to see more B & B talk going here.  

Feli, I think that you may have missed the first couple of years of B & B
where Brooke did her best to earn herself the title of Slut of the Century.
She has wanted Ridge ever since she saw his well equipped bank account.  
Even though she knew Caroline and her were in love, she decided to see if 
she could get in on that action.  And she is only reaping what she has sown. 
Er, amke that Caroline and he were in love.  Since she knew Caroline and Ridge
were committed.  She has shown the same dedication to committment ever since.
Her committment to Eric, her respect for the committment that Ridge has made
with ANYONE else, lead one to believe that this woman knows and cares nothing
for committment - whether it is made by other people, or herself.
'
I think that Ron Moss has become a good actor, now that he has gotten  
comfortable with the role.  And while I think he is good looking enough,
he is certainly no one to lose your integrity over.  He's not that GOOD a 
prize.   

I don't feel badly for Brooke in this mess at all.  I am one who thinks that
she should be left with no Forrester men.  I would like to watch her pursue 
an interest other that a Forrester.  I mean with two Forrester babies she 
is unlikely to end up having serious financial worries and plenty of timne
to romance Donald Trump.  

Does anyone else see a parallel between Brooke Forrester and Nicki Newman?

If Brooke wants to feel better, she should stop pursuing a man who is 
married to someone else.  Find something in life which actually means 
something to her.  And stop using that baby as leverage to gain a foothold
into some place, or onto someone.  She is a bright, capable woman, and she
gets no sympathy from me for playing the idiot.  

Now for my real opinion........:^).

Anyone think that Sheila is going to perform another "Lauren Fenmore" move
and switch the results of the blood test to assure that Ridge is the 
"proven" father of the child.  This could last for a long time, and then we
could find out later that the baby is actually Erics.

But my favorite projected scenerio is that while they are doing the work 
needed to determine this thing, they discover that Ridge is NOT actually 
Eric's son.  And that (Back at the beginning of the series we found out that
Stephanie had "trapped" Eric into a loveless marriage by getting pregnant.)
Stephanie had just passed someone elses kid off as Erics to keep him away 
from Brooke's Mommy Dearest.  

Perhaps they can do both.

Anyway let's keep up the good conversation.  Whether you think Brooke is a 
saint or a sinner, just keep talking........


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