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From: cbrand@cac.washington.edu (Carol Brand)
Subject: Re: Advice on Small Dogs
Organization: UW Networks and Distributed Computing
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 19:12:51 GMT

>
>In the year since Frosty died....I got re-married.  My husband does
>not like dogs.  He said he doesn't want to smell it....he doesn't want
>to have it slober on him.  He doesn't want to have to rush home for
>it.  My daughter is 16 now...and very responsible.  I have decided that
>we would do better with a small dog.  He will (of course) be crate trained.
>Definitely a house dog....will receive lots of attention....  My daughter
>misses her companion...and after a period of mourning....we are ready
>to take a new member into our family.

As an owner of a Smooth Fox Terrier, I would like to recommend one of
the terrier breeds as an option.  Many are small, and almost all are
athletic, loyal (without being needy), non slobbering, non yapping and
trainable.  Even though they are small, their tenacity might make them
more appealing to a man than one of the strictly companion breeds like
a toy poodle.  Their are terriers for all people.  The Fox Terrier has
high style, the Border Terrier is about as scrappy as they get, and
the Soft Coated Wheaten is fluffy and cuddly.

Check 'em out!

-Carol
From: young@gdfwc3 (Mark Young)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Australian Cattle Dogs (Blue/Red Heelers)
Date: 24 Jul 92 23:34:56 GMT
Distribution: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: General Dynamics, Fort Worth Division

I have been following for some time now and have seen no discussions on
Heelers.  I have three Zeke, Sadie and Fats.  They are great dogs.  I 
would love to hear from other Heeler owners out there.  And, for those
of you who are looking for an outside dog, you should consider a Heeler.
You should know that Heelers are lively, they love water and interactive
games, they need room to run (and jump), they are very brite and trainable,
and best of all they make great friends.

Here's a spec sheet on my dogs:

	Zeke ->  Sex:    Male
                 Color:  Dark Grey/Blue with very little Brown
                 Weight: 55 to 60 lbs
                 Age:    2 1/2 years
                 Traits: Very dominant over other dogs but submissive
                         to all people.  The most obedient of the three.
                         He likes to stay immediately at my side.

	Sadie->  Sex:    Female
                 Color:  Light Grey/Silver with Patched Left Eye
		 Weight: 40 to 45 lbs
	         Age:    2 years
                 Traits: Very submissive but very playful.  The least
                         obedient of the three.  Loves to jump and nip
                         (gently) at my heels and elbows.

	Fats ->  Sex:    Male (his is a pup of the above mentioned)
		 Color:  Almost identical to Zeke
                 Weight: 50 lbs (he will be larger than Zeke)
                 Age:    1 year 
		 Traits: More playful than Zeke but less than Sadie.
                         He is currently making a power move and has
                         passed Sadie in the feeding order.  She is 
                         now submissive to him (of course he had to 
                         beat her up a few times first).  He jumps 
                         (not on anyone) constantly as if he is 
                         exploding with joy.

If you are looking for a Heeler find a good local breeder (your vet should
know some).  All to often I have seen dogs called heelers who where 
actually some Heeler mix.  A true Heeler has a distinct look.  The males
have wide heads and are wide through the shoulders.  They are very strong.
The females are not as wide and are generally quicker and more agile.

Let's start a Heeler discussion.
From: may@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Dolores May)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Advice on Small Dogs
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:54:22 GMT
Reply-To: may@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Dolores May)
Organization: Annapolis Facility, Carderock Division, NSWC

We had a wonderful dog (mixed...looked like the "Never Ending Story"
Dog) that we got from the pound.  His name was Frosty.  He was a little
larger than cockapoo....and looked very much like one.  We had him for
9 years...and he was my daughter's best friend.

Since his death, we have a definite void.  She was so attached...as
was I...that I swore we would never have another.  Well....

In the year since Frosty died....I got re-married.  My husband does
not like dogs.  He said he doesn't want to smell it....he doesn't want
to have it slober on him.  He doesn't want to have to rush home for
it.  My daughter is 16 now...and very responsible.  I have decided that
we would do better with a small dog.  He will (of course) be crate trained.
Definitely a house dog....will receive lots of attention....  My daughter
misses her companion...and after a period of mourning....we are ready
to take a new member into our family.

We're looking for characteristics like....friendly, prissie is OK, funny,
safe with visitors, loyal....not yappie.  He/she will be spoiled in
the best kind of way....but will also be well behaved.  My daughter
will be off to college in a couple years...so MAYBE it is not just for
my daughter...I am doing this.

thanks for any suggestions....warnings....comments....hints....

BTW....he'll have lots of socialization....as my best friend has 6 dogs...
two champion Bearded Collies....two champion standard poodles....two
poorly treated orphans....that are huge.  Everyone we know have large
dogs....  I just think that is more than my husband can take.

thanks.
From: sss@netcom.com (Small Systems Solutions)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Stop dog from making a lunge
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:31:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Jul23.192215.20406@PacBell.COM> 
	jxwomac@pbseps.sf180.PacBell.COM (Julie Womack) writes:

>Whenever I walk my 15 month old cocker spaniel, she makes a lunge for
>bicycles, dogs and especially people on skateboards. I constantly look
>backward and forward to see what's coming to avoid any contact and will
>hold on tight to her lease and yell 'off'. Will she eventually stop this
>behavior or is there a better way to stop this?

SHE WILL STOP IF YOU MAKE HER.  DO NOT HOLD TIGHT ON THE LEASH, AND DO
NOT ISSUE ANY COMMAND.

Get a pinch collar.  Hold the leash loosely at all times, otherwise
your dog will pull against it constantly and think that that's okay.

If the doggie lunges while wearing the pronged collar, she'll get an
automatic correction when she reaches the end of the leash.  That should
cure her...

-- 
Small Systems Solutions                   1563 Solano Avenue, Suite 123
sss@netcom.com                                  Berkeley, CA 94707-2116

The above-expressed opinions aren't necessarily
From: williamsk@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Knocked out of bed by a lightening bolt)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: One major to go!
Date: 20 Jul 92 13:51:15 EST

My Golden retreiver dog Spencer (who, by the way just celebrated his second 
birthday on July 18 - without me!) won his first major and now has a grand 
total of 14 points.  Only one more major to go!  Since we have nicknamed him 
Buck, we call him a "14 point Buck".

The major was on Sunday and he beat 22 other dogs including his littermate
brother.  It was interesting to note how consistant this judge was.  The
6-9 month puppy was a Spencer look alike at the same age, and is Spencer's
half brother (same father).  The 9-12 month puppy also looked very much like
Spencer at that age, but Polo is a little bigger.  He is Spencer's 3/4 brother
(same father, mothers are sisters).  So, 3 of the 4 dogs competing for the
winners dog were puppies for Ch. Faera's Destiny Kodiak Kidd, Show Dog Hall of
Fame.

Kim 

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: dewey@centerline.com (Devan F. Dewey)
Subject: New Akita
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:22:33 GMT

I recently became the proud parent of the cutest (of course I think so)
Akita puppy in the world. 

Does anyone in the Boston area know of a good puppy kindergarten that would
be appropriate for an Akita? He's ten weeks and already over 25 pounds.

-Devan

                             
               Devan F. Dewey | Senior Systems Analyst
          CenterLine Software | dewey@centerline.com
            10 Fawcett Street | Leme esplain - no dere is
          Cambridge, MA 02138 | too much. Leme sum up.
From: bws20@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Brian W Simmons)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Cool Dog Tricks Needed
Summary: only Stroh's knows for sure
Keywords: dog tricks
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:39:20 GMT
Reply-To: bws20@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Brian W Simmons)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA




In article <Bs0DGD.Eo@acsu.buffalo.edu>, Kelly Anne Hinkle wrote:


>In article <54r402wR1bml01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> bws20@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com(Brian W Simmons) writes:
>>If the Stroh`s dog was a GSD, then I am a bichon frise.  Of course, now
>>I_can't remember the breed, but it was more like a retriever than a GSD.
>>bws
>>--

>Well, send us a picture and we'll tell you if you look like one. :)  It *was*
>a GSD.

Kelly:

What I _need_ to do is send you a picture of a GSD--these are generally
black-and-tan shedding monsters with upright ears and severe angulation.
Often used as police dogs and in Schutzhund.  You know, like Rin-Tin-Tin?
Someone please call Stroh's Public Information Office and get this straigh
t...8v).  GSD breeders on the net, do your dogs look like Alex in the
series of Stroh's ads?  Kelly, I _am_ willing to make a small wager on thi
s; I suppose we would both need the number of Stroh's PIO so we can
independently confirm the breed. Let's say 1 year's subscription to
AKC Gazette, Front & Finish, or OffLead?  8v) How about it?

confidently yours, bws

--
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bws20@amail.amdahl.com      the human heart holds hidden treasures,
brian wesley simmons          in secret kept, in silence sealed
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From: kathy@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (AUS:GREENWOOD,KATHY)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: WANT TO BUY BLUE GREAT DANE OR DOBERMAN
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:58:00 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services, Norman, OK
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul30.145036.1@ntc01.tele.nokia.fi>, mtapio@ntc01.tele.nokia.fi writes...
>WANTED !
> 
>can someone advice me who to contact in USA in case I want to buy
>a blue great dane or blue dobermann with cropped ears from USA ?
> 
>dogs would be for breeding and dog-show purpose in FINLAND.
> 
Can I ask why you would want to breed blue dobermans?  Here in the US, they have
incredible skin problems and are not showable!!

............................................................................
Kathy Greenwood                | Mom to 
Math Major (believe it or not!)|   Loucha and Landry (Belgian Sheepdogs)
University of Oklahoma         |   Ruger (English Springer Spaniel)
                               |   Elsa (German Wirehair Pointer)
.............................................................................
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From: jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Stop dog from making a lunge
Reply-To: jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:51:19 GMT

In article <92207.110117ASOLOMO@auvm.american.edu>, ari solomon 
<ASOLOMO@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>
>In article <=zhmb2h.sss@netcom.com>, sss@netcom.com (Small Systems Solutions)
>says:      [Advises J. Womack to get a prong collar to correct lunging]
>
>   Ummm...that sounds too severe for the described problem. Julie's
>   dog hasn't had an opportunity to respond to consistent correction with a
>   check collar; why rush straight to a prong collar?
>       In addition to the doubtful humanity of prongs on a non-dangerous
                                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
A prong collar is not used for a dangerous dog; it is used for a touch-
insensitive dog (e.g., a dog that does not notice a collar pop unless the
pop is delivered with such force as to risk injuring the dog's throat or
with a force that is beyond the owner's physical abilities).

>   dog, it doesn't make sense from a training point of view: Which are you
>   likely to have on the dog more regularly: The prongs, or a simple check
>   collar? "Once in a while my owner puts those nasty pokers on my neck, and
>   I'm not allowed to lunge until she takes them off." Quoth the pooch.

I am assuming check collar = choke (or slip) collar. Both the choke collar
and the prong collar are *training* collars and should not be left on the
dog when the dog is not being supervised. Thus, whenever you need control
over the dog you put its collar on, whether that be a buckle, a choke, or
a prong.
It is a great misconception that prong collars are cruel (they may look
nasty, but try one on & compare it to a choke - not so bad, eh). The level
of correction for a dog should be the minimum necessary to elicit the
desired response from the dog; for some dogs, a buckle collar will do it,
for others, a choke or a prong is needed. I've seen dogs react poorly to
the choking sensation of a *properly used* choke collar that have done 
fine on a *properly used* prong.


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* jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu                             *
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From: mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Toy Collies,etc.
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:32:59 GMT

In article <9207291508.AA22006@bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, bwithem@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Barbara S Withem) writes:
|> I am looking to adopt a puppy that will grow into a small dog. I am thinking of
|> of a toy collie, sheltie or a mutt with a mix of one of these breeds. All of my
|> past dogs have been german shepards so I am not very familiar with the smaller
|> breeds. I would appreciate any suggestions, stories(good or bad) or hints of
|> what to look for about these two breeds. Thanks-Barb

The breed name is Shetland Sheepdog or Sheltie for short.  Please don't refer to
them as "Toy Collies"  (there is no such animal) or "Minature Collies" (Sheltie
owners *HATE* that).

I have heard good things about Shelties, but they do tend to be rather energetic,
so be sure you want a dog that needs plenty of exercise.  The Shelties that I've
met were well behaved (two belong to a trainer; one is owned by a friend).  They
are very intelligent dogs, but please remember that they come from *working*
stock (they *are* shepherds) and need something to do (they are not lounge
lizards).

Also be certain that a puppy will be right for you.  Puppies take a huge
commitment (any dog takes a commitment, but puppies moreso).  There is
housebreaking, chewing, making general messes, etc. not to mention vet bills,
worming, shots, dog food, etc.  Exercise is also important not to mention
training.  

As for where to get your dog or puppy, call up a vet or dog obedience trainer 
in your area and see if he/she has the names of people in the local Sheltie club
or Sheltie Rescue Society (there are specific breed rescue groups) if you decide
on an adult dog.

You might want to read all the FAQs pertaining to new owners/puppies.  If you
need a copy, just let me know and I will e-mail one.  (Or ask Cindy Tittle Moore
for one).

Good Luck!

Sky Warrior
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From: mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: the end of the no flame dog kill post
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:41:02 GMT

In article <k3ZDoB1w164w@penn.Gwinnett.COM>, bfbear@penn.Gwinnett.COM (Penn Collins) writes:

|> well, it looks like the doberman ("BlackJack") will get to live life until old
|> age gets him- (am hoping a BIG bus gets his owner, or the alchohol finally gets
|> his brain.)

It looks like alchohol has already gotten to his brain (no smiley)

Personally, I wouldn't trust the owner's decision (you are dealing with a drug,
not a human being).  I still think you should call the Humane Society on this
bozo.


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From: jmingee@convex.com (Jennifer Mingee)
Subject: Info on Italian greyhounds?
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:43:57 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

My husband and I are thinking of "saving a stray" Italian greyhound,
but we'd like to know more about the breed before doing so.  What 
are the general personality characteristics of this breed?  Are they
much like the racing greyhounds?  What about health problems with the
breed? Are there any Italian greyhound owners out there? 

I'm also looking for tips on how to introduce this new dog to our
"pack."  We are currently owned by a Miniature Pinscher, and we're
concerned about how well the two dogs will get along.  Both dogs are
females, which general net.wisdom seems to think is a bad thing, but
the MinPin seems to get along better with females than males.  They 
will be meeting on neutral territory before bringing the new dog home.
Oh, the MinPin is a year and half old, and the greyhound is between 
nine and ten months, so they are both quite active.  Are they likely
to wear each other out playing, or is one going to have substantially
more energy than the other?

We'd appreciate any and all information.  We're really looking forward
to becoming a two-dog family!

Thanks!

Jennifer
jmingee@convex.com
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From: khare@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Kathy Hare - DCS)
Subject: Re: Dogs watching tv
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:01:11 GMT

Yes my dog also watches tv. If something cathes his eye he sits in the 
middle of the room and stares. The cat like to watch once in a while
as well. The longest time Wruff (the dog) ever spent watching tv was 
about an hour. My husband was watching a movie about a cave man travelling
around or something. Anyway there was all kinds of bird and animal noises
and Wruff sat in the middle of the floor about 2 feet from the tv in 
his "gopher stance" He is a Lhasa so he is small and sits up on his back
legs with front paws up and bent in front of him. He sat up like that 
for the whole movie only relaxing every 20 or 30 minutes then back to 
the gopher stance. He is most hilarious when he does this!!
From: sss@netcom.com (Small Systems Solutions)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Training a protection dog
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:58:31 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <16831C79A.N51LS801@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu> 
	N51LS801@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu writes:

> 
>My question:  What kinds of methods would need to be used to train a
>dog as a PROTECTION DOG, as characterized above?  And are there some
>breeds that it'd be infeasible to train in this way? References to
>books, articles and/or tapes would be welcome.

Schutzhund, while primarily a sport, has the foundation for the kind of
training in aggression and control you want.  Training a personal protection
dog is a logical extension of the protection phase of Schutzhund. 

The reason I recomend SchH is that the Obedience and Tracking phases are
most useful in training YOU, as well as the dog.

For best results, you must select the right puppy, give it a lot of
encouragement and leeway, and train the right steps in the right order.

I recommend Ed Frawley's video on Bite TRaining Puppies -- he gives the
straight dope on how to select a puppy, and how to imprint the right
behavior.


-- 
Small Systems Solutions                   1563 Solano Avenue, Suite 123
sss@netcom.com                                  Berkeley, CA 94707-2116

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From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Subject: Re: GREAT DANE FEMALE PUPPY FOR SALE
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Date: 31 Jul 92 05:06:38 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Version: Rodney's UUCP modules 02/11/90 V1.18

In article <1992Jul30.143333.1@ntc01.tele.nokia.fi> mtapio@ntc01.tele.nokia.fi
 writes:

> CHANGE POSSIBLE FOR BLUE GREAT DANE BORN IN USA,BELGIUM OR NETHERLANDS.
> (PREFERABLY WITH CROPPED EARS, BORN 1991)
i don't knwo why, but while most great danes seen at usa dog shows have
cropped ears, the blues almost always have uncropped ears.  you will have a
hard time finding an american blue great dane with cropped ears.
--
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
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From: martin@lib.utk.edu (Peggy Martin)
Subject: Re: DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO NOW!
Organization: University of Tennessee Library
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:56:47 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.141946.4286@bb1t.monsanto.com> dbwebe@bb1t.monsanto.com writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.154012.25785@news.unomaha.edu>, massey@odin.unomaha.edu (Dana Massey) writes:
>> Do you have mushrooms in your yard???????
>> 
>> Dana


>       Or walnut trees?

What about walnut trees?  Are walnut shells poisionous?  I've been letting 
my dogs chew the shells when we go for walks.  Do I need to stop?
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Saturday, 25 Jul 1992 22:03:23 CDT
From: Kimberly Laird <U30993@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Cool Dog Tricks Needed
Distribution: usa
 <1992Jul24.064915.28003@walter.cray.com> <l707lqINNg2c@news.bbn.com>
 <BrwHt8.IL6@acsu.buffalo.edu> <54r402wR1bml01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>

the stroh's dog was a Golden Retriever, possibly a mix.
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