From: phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone)
Subject: Re: The real reason strayts reject gay men (was: Lesbian perspective)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 19:00:06 GMT
Organization: Generally in favor of, but mostly random.

In article <omk7jq4@fido.asd.sgi.com> dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:
    >In article <kx6mfr.phil@netcom.com> phil@netcom.com (Phil
    >Ronzone) writes:
    >
    >>Very revealing Jeff. Very revealing. I looked at the remark,
    >>as indeed I would believe that most men that see sense in the
    >>remark, as a comment on the waste of a person with positive
    >>attributes into a lifestyle that is felt to be less than
    >>positive.
    >>
    >Bullshit. The statement was not showing concern for someone
    >who is in a "lifestyle" they consider less than positive. If
    >that were the case, then they would have included ugly
    >lesbians. However, the fact that they are only concerned with
    >the attractive ones makes it sound like he is looking for
    >sex.

No. It reflects the reality of life. Let us be very realistic. People have
different amounts of "good things" going for them. If say, a 40-year old
woman with a long history of prostituition, drug use, jail time commits
suicide rather than use the needle again, I would say that perhaps it was for
the best, considering the pain, degradation, and horror that she has seen.

If a 21-year old woman commits suicide over the despair at her first failed
big love affair, I would say what a waste -- because she in all likelihood
made a bad decision based on the spur of the moment despondacy.

The full range of human potential includes hetersexual behaviour in
my book (as should be obvious to you). However, some people,
with ugly looks or ugly personalities (or "broken" personalities), perhaps
have trouble with hetersexual relationships and turn to alternatives.

Whatever -- everybody does get to pursue happiness in their own way,
as is their right (something you and I disagree on BTW).

The poster has (apparently) an underlying belief that I share -- that
many, perhaps the vast majority, of female homosexuals are pretty ugly
in body and/or spirit.

Sure, there are pretty ones, but in my observation, they are few and far
between.

So to see someone that has all the qualifications for a full and complete
life chose a side avenue, that in many peoples opinions offers a less
complete and (more potential for unhappiness), yes, what a waste.

In the same way, if I saw a black high school kid with an outstanding mind
and a love for science pursue a professional sports career, I'd also
say, what a waste.

Get it?

    >>There's more to life than the area just below the belt Jeff.
    >>
    >Tell that to all the women who have been raped. Tell that to
    >women who get sexually harassed by every man who they see on
    >the street. Tell that to the woman who is called "honey" by
    >patronizing men.
    >
    >You don't have a clue when it comes to understanding what it
    >is like to be treated like an object.
    >
    >You are such a prime example of "white male" it boggles the
    >mind.

Well, it seems to take little to biggle your mind Jeff. But ask yourself,
what kind of below the belt thinking is involve when the homosexual at your
company need to place flyers seek acceptance (?) of their SEXUALITY on
every seat in the cafeteria? have you ever though that it may
offend people?



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