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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: 65802 problem
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:02:43 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Keywords: 65802

In article <22JAN199310075283@rigel.tamu.edu> a0m2504@rigel.tamu.edu (AKITOMO MORITA) writes:
> Is anybody out there having problems using a 65802 inside a //e inplace of the
> 65C02?  I'm having trouble using the 65802 and running an old (OLD) Rana Elite
> 5 meg hard drive.  I've tried using a 65816 (since there was talk of this
> earlier) but I had the sam problem with it.
> 
> The hard drive has a card with ROM and RAM on it.  In $C800-CFFF, the banks
> $CC00-CFFF are used for ROM, and the other 1k can select either another ROM or
> up to 7 1k RAM by reading $c0f8-c0ff (when the card is in slot 7).  The problem
> is that the demultiplexer is getting the wrong lower three bits and is 
> selecting the wrong set of RAM or ROM.

I can't think of any reason why the 65802 would have problems.  It
might make sense if the 65C02 didn't work either.  Presumably the RANA
drive works fine with a normal 6502?

> On another note, I noticed that the //e board has four silver(?) contacts on
> the lower left-hand corner.  Can I use these to power a logic probe?  In other
> words, does anybody know the signals or purpose of these contact?

They're called the 'burn-in power pads', and they contain the voltages
from the power supply (I'm not sure which order, but it includes
Ground, +5, +12, -5 and -12).
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:20:47 -0500 
From: "Seth D. Kadesh" <sk2f+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Ace 1000 Plus: Questions...

madhatter@pembvax1.pembroke.edu writes:
> Hello,
> 
>      I had a few more questions after looking under the hood of my 
> Franklin Ace 1000 Plus (Ace v2.2).  Like:
> 
>      It had a card in it, I don't know what it is.  The only thing it has
> wrote on it is 'Dumpling-GX' and 'MICROTEK'.  Any ideas?

this is a printer interace card (parallel interface).  i think it has
the capability of dumping graphic images to the printer, but i'm not
sure....

> 
>      What termial programs work best with it?

depends.  i think the ace 1000 is a ii+ clone, so you might have
problems with some of the newer software expecting a iie or gs.

>      Does it support the Super Serial Card so I can run a modem?  If so
> which slot does it go in?

you _should_ be able to run a super serial card.  recommended slot is
1 or 2 (but your printer is probably 1, so put the card in 2).

>      Does it work just on a monitor or also on a T.V.(with one of those 
> little switch controllers)?

it should work with a tv, if you get one of those rf modulators.

>                                        Thanx again,
> 
>                                            Jason Jones

  seth ---> sk2f@andrew.cmu.edu
and his amazing signature!
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From: pasqual@athena.mit.edu (Hiroshi Kawai)
Subject: Re: Formatting troubles :(
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:52:13 GMT


Hi,

  The "Alert! Alert!" message is a cute (not) feature of the GS.Spy.2 INIT.
This INIT yells at you when you try to format, erase, or obliterate stuff on
a disk.  If you hit RETURN or ENTER after this, the INIT will let you continue
with the formatting, etc.  Hitting ESC supposedly boots you back to the Finder.
If GS.Spy.2 crashes after you hit ESC, you may want to try reinstalling it.

						Hope this helps,

						Hiroshi


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz)
Subject: Re: Can GS power a fan?
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 05:21:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.171956.20942@hou.amoco.com> zdjb01@hou.amoco.com writes:
>
>I have a fan in my GS.  I plugs into the fan connection inside the GS.
>I bought it from an apple mailhouse outlet in Arizona about 3 or 4 years ago.
>I believe it was an Apple product.  You can probably check with some of
>the mailhouses (see InCider/A+ magazine).  I wouldn't consider anything
>from Radio Shack since it wouldn't be made for the apple.
>

Are these internal fans just "MUFFIN" Fans? Can we just buy the proper
sized MUFFIN fan and connect it? If so, what size fan?

Paul Schultz

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: djshaw01@romulus.spd.louisville.edu (Daniel Shaw)
Subject: ZipGSX programming...
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:48:55 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

how does one recognize whether a zip exists in a slot from a program...
I noticed in thye cH..'s code that it accesses the annunciators to turn it on or off....????? it doesn't really make sense...if anyone knows how.. email or better.. post!!!!...let everyone know how to do it..
	Dan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Bought a Franklin Ace 1000: Questions..
From: csokolo@eis.calstate.edu (Christopher Sokolov)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:26:36 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

tomk@pro-nsdapple.cts.com (Tom Kelly) writes:

> Does anyone have the patch to make ProDos work on a Franklin?
> If so please post it or send me E-Mail.
> Thanks.

Seeing as I told you there was a patch, I will post it.  Maybe this could
be in the FAQ?

1.  Boot ProDOS.  When the system hangs up, press [RESET
2.  Type 2647:EA EA (prodos 1.0)  -or-  265B:EA EA ('all' other versions)
3.  Type 2000G

Congratulations!  But the change is not permanent, your must modify the
PRODOS file.  The following BASIC program will do just that.

20 D$ = CHR$(4)
30 INPUT "INSERT DISK TO BE PATCHED AND PRESS RETURN":R$
40 PRINT D$;"BLOAD PRODOS,TSYS,A$2000"
50 POKE 9819,234:POKE 9820,234
60 PRINT D$;"BSAVE PRODOS,TSYS,A$2000":END

For ProDOS 1.0 change line 50 to:

50 POKE 9799,234:POKE 9800,234

(From Home Computer Magazine, v5 #4, page 13)

I left out the error trapping code from the program, but it should do the
job. :)  Anyone who wants the complete program mailed to them, let me know.

A few points:  I seriously doubt this patch will work for ProDOS version
after 1.9.  My II+ doesn't.  It may not even work with some fairly old
versions, as this program came out when ProDOS was first released.

Hope this helps,

-Christopher Sokolov
From: michaeee@MAINRT.LUTHER.UNI.EDU (Eric Michael 6-93)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: NEED HELP WITH APPLE ][c
Date: 22 Jan 93 09:09:20 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

> 
> 3. Almost any software will work with the Imagewriter (which is on the
>    //c).  This is because the Apple computer uses a very old technology.
>    It is also a very simple technology.  You simply select which slot
>    to send your information to and the printing starts.  The default
>    print slot is the second slot.  So to print you would do a PR#2.
>    From then on (until something causes it to change) all output is
>    echoed to the printer.
> 

I think you intended to say that the default printer slot is slot one.  
Therefore to print you would type 'PR#1'.  The second slot default is 
set for the modem, although using the system utilities the //c slots 
can be re-configured for other devices.    

			_ _ /,
	 		\'o.o'          Later-
			=(___)=           Eric Michael
		           U	          aka: michaeee@mainrt.luther.uni.edu
From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Keyboard menus
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:34:20 GMT
Organization: Champlain Regional College, St-Lambert QC CANADA

If you are currently writing or plan to write a desktop program that uses
custom menus, read this, please!

I am writing a utility which allows access to menus via the keyboard. It
works automatically with all standard menus, but custom menus need a few
(easy) modifications in order to work. I encourage you to make these
modifications as they are easy to makeand will result in only about 50
extra bytes of code. The result is well worth it.

If you make the modifications, your program will still work without my
utility, so you haven't got anything to lose!

Here are the modifications you must make:

-------
How to make custom menus work from the keyboard:

- The number of items in the menu must be stored as a word at offset $0C in
  the menu record. (as with standard menus)
- The internal item numbers (not the Item ID numbers) must number from 0 up.
- The highest (normally unused) byte of the defproc pointer (offset $09 in
  the menu record) must be equal to $55. This tells the keyboard menu select
  routine that your menu is compatible with it.
- There is a new request which the defproc must support: $06 MGetMItemEnable.
  It works just like MGetMItemID except it must return TRUE is an item is
  enabled and FALSE if not.
-------

If you need help or sample source code, contact me.

Thank you.

-------
Does anyone know of an NDA other than WriteIt that puts a menu bar in its
window? I need to test my utility on bars other than the system one.

The problem is that WriteIt handles keypresses itself instead of calling
MenuKey, defeating my patched MenuKey. (Notice that when you select something
from WriteIt's menus, the menu doesn't hilight!)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: kls0@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Plague)
Subject: Re: Help with Binscii
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:36:43 GMT

majere@chezmoto.ai.mit.edu (Michael Majere) writes:

>Hello, I was wondering if any of y'all could help me out.
>I recently ftp'ed a copy of binscii from wuarchive.wustl.edu.
>I then proceeded to transfer the file via Kermit in text modes
>at both ends. (I realize Kermit is stinky but that is all I have
>available to me) Next I checked the text exec to see if there was
>any obvious errors in it, the file looked clean to me. I then proceeded
>to exec it, all went fine and I got the binary file called binscii in
>my directory. However when I try to 'brun binscii' all I get is a
>repeated '?unrecognized command', I was wondering if any of y'all
>knew what I have done wrong, and better yet how to fix it.
>Thanks, Mike.
>--
>This is a test sig file.

I haven't used BinSCII in a long time, (I use GScii+) but I think the 8bit
BinSCII should actually be a SYS file, not a BIN file.

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From: joshua@sumax.seattleu.edu (bar joseph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: WANTED used hardwares
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:25:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: sumax.1ju5ctINN2m3
Organization: Seattle University
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu


I'm trying to buy some new hardwares for my outdated GS.
If you are trying to sell your system or trying to get rid of some hardwares,
make me a reasonable offer for anything you've got.
Currently, I'm thinking about buying the following.
 3.5 drive
 memory cards
 accelerator boards
 HD(preferrably SCSI)

Thanks.
Pete.
From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Need text editor
Date: 25 Jan 1993 11:45:05 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


What are you using for a term program. Many of them have text editors. 
ProTERM 3.0 for one. Also there is Aple Writer, old but it works.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Subject: Re: Formatting troubles :(
Reply-To: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:55:34 GMT

In article <C1DD1r.71G@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kls0@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
(Plague) writes:
>Whenever I hit ESC while in the Finder, it locks up and I can'tI seem
>to have a 
>problem with my Finder (and all other S16 programs).  Here's the deal.  If I
>try to format a disk (3.5" or 5.25") my GS yells "ALERT! ALERT!" at me, and
>then locks up - kinda.  I can't activate any windows, but

	Read the GSSpy Docs.  I used GSSpy a lot under System 5.04
without any problems.  I haven't used it with System 6.0, because I
never got around to getting it again.

	When it says "alert! alert!" you have to press <return> to
coninue formatting.  (it could be the spacebar as well).

Steven Chiang                  Order - DreamGrafix:  The ONLY 16/256/3200
stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu       color paint program for the Apple IIGS.
America On_Line:  DWS Steve
Genie:  S.Chiang4              Apple IIGS Forever!
From: mack3425@mary.cs.fredonia.edu (john t mackay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: APPLE ][e FOR SALE cheap!
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:47:02 GMT
Organization: Math / CS, State Univ. of N. Y. College at Fredonia
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


  Enhanced Apple ][e for sale 
    -color monitor
    -Seikosha sp1000 printer
    -double disk drive
    -extended memory card (128k)
    -80 column text card
    -super serial card
    -all original manuals, and boxes
    -many other extras (books and limited software)

 $150.00 obo

please respond by e-mail:
		         mack3425@mary.cs.fredonia.edu
From: irsman@iastate.edu (Ian Schmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Don't clean drives!! (was Re: Problems Detected with System 6)
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:22:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.C1Iz1M.IC0
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

In article <C1Iw3B.1wo@well.sf.ca.us> joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn) writes:

[stuff about cleaning 3.5" drives]

For a real eye-opener, pry up all your keycaps and clean under there...its
quite disgusting, but it gives you full key travel back :)


-- 
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 "I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose free will." - Neil Peart
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: irsman@iastate.edu (Ian Schmidt)
Subject: Re: GIF89? (was Re: NASA photos online?)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:22:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.163041.13890@cas.org> lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes:

[only Macs and PCs can do GIF89a]

This is untrue.  GIF.3200 on the IIgs can handle GIF89a files, and xv 2.0
and later for Unix/X-Windows can also.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: lurch@eskimo.com (Erik Kloeppel)
Subject: Re: GS+AFP Unix server
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 06:09:34 GMT

I still dunno - our net had a unix box, messy-dos boxes, Macs, and one Amiga.
It took us a little over two weeks to put it all together - over 100 liniar
miles with bridges and routers too, and once it was up, it stayed up with
no problems until I left (a year later).  If your systems people are always
tweaking the system, I'd question the quality of the original installation.

(um.. I neglected to mention, this is an ethernet LAN)

The software was easy to deal with (granted not an integral part of the 
LAN, but still something to consider), and installing the cable was a breeze
(of course, a TDR makes things a lot easier than "does this work? How about now?")

so... it still remains, I'd rather drive my V-8 than some silly little 4-banger.


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From: 90taobri@WAVE.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Bug in Finder 6.0
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:11:01 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MuGS Research and Development Facility


    My apologies if this bug has been reported already, but this is the
first time I've seen it.

    Open any folder in the Finder which contains files and a Finder.Data
file.  Drag out all the icons on to the desktop and close the window
(make sure the Finder is updating the window and icon positions).  Now
open it back up again.  The window position is not retained!  If you put
away the icons before opening the window, you will find that all the
icons are in their default positions and default colours.  Dave?

    Credit goes to Jim Low who pointed this one out to me.

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From: mark@pokey.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark Manning)
Subject: Flipping Screens
Organization: NASA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:01:19 GMT

What's the fastest you've been able to make animation go
and still not get the flicker?  (ie:exceed the refresh
rate)

Secondly, how many things can you handle at one time one
the screen before everything slows down too much?  Is there
a table of number of items crossed against the size of the
items?  After all, the larger the items are, the slower things
will go - right?

Thanks!  :)
From: b45075@opal.ctd.anl.gov (Nathaniel Trost)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: cirtech
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:26:25 GMT
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory

I don't know about Cir-Tech, but Sir-Tech is most certainly still in business
and still making Wizardry games (for MS-DOS machines now...ugh).

Resource Central carried Cir-Tech products for many years, they might know,
(913)469-6502.

Nate Trost
GEnie: N.TROST
b45075@achilles.ctd.anl.gov
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From: pmichel@pro-applejacks.cts.com (Patrick Michel)
Subject: Re: Educational games that teach about computers
Organization: ProLine [pro-applejacks]
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 17:36:09 CST

I could maybe get that program for whoever,
but it would be NPD.

                Paatryx
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From: hinchlif@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Peter Hinchliffe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Use ProDOS disks in a MAC
Date: 23 Jan 1993 08:28:12 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au

unknown@apple.com (Matt Ackeret) writes:

>In article <1jb3fnINN3ud@newsman.csu.murdoch.edu.au> Peter Hinchliffe,
>hinchlif@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au writes:
>> Don't try to use it to copy Mac files to a ProDOS disk, though. Most of the
>> files you'll want to copy, such as TrueType fonts, etc, and, indeed, the
>> ProDOS File System Extension itself, contain resources, and will not copy.
>Straight 

>What are you talking about?  Are you trying to say that they will be 
>(for the most part) unusable on 8 bit Apple IIs, or do you think they
>literally won't copy?  I just copied a few applications to a ProDOS disk, and
>they definitely copied, with all resources intact.. (I opened them up 
>from the floppy with ResEdit)
>--
>unknown@apple.com                         Apple II Forever
>unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu   These opinions are mine, not Apple's.

I think I'd better get out my jumbo sized tube of burn cream after saying this

<:-|

Without being pedantic about it, every time I have tried to copy a file from a 
Mac disk to a ProDOS disk, and it has been a file which has contained a 
resource, I have come up with errors. Even the ProDOS extension itself produced
an error code when I tried to copy it to a ProDOS disk. When I inserted a Mac
disk, the file copied with no problems.

I was putting this problem down to the presence of resources (and the ProDOS 
Extension IS a resource), but too many people now have told me that they have 
successfully copied resource files that my errors must be due to something else.

The next logical thing that springs to mind is that the filenames are not being 
translated properly. Certainly the filename "ProDOS File System" does not sit
happily with ProDOS, but I would expect some sort of dialog either advising me 
that the filename had been translated to a format acceptable to ProDOS, or 
prompting me to supply one, just as I am used to in GS/OS. Instead, all I ever 
get is a rather impolite error code.

Not to let this thing completely out of hand, I'll go back and try again...


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From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: 65802 problem
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:07:43 GMT
Keywords: 65802

Further to my previous posting on this topic: one possible
compatibility problem with a 65802 is interrupts.

The 6502 and 65C02 have three interrupt vectors: NMI ($FFFA), RESET
($FFFC) and BRK/IRQ ($FFFE).

The 65802 supports the same interrupt vectors when running in
'emulation' mode, but has one extra vector for the COP instruction,
which is at $FFF4.  If an $02 byte is fetched as an instruction, the
computer will fetch an interrupt vector from $FFF4, resulting in a
jump to a strange location, and probably a crash.

Even worse, if the 65802 is running in 'native' mode, there are
completely separate vectors: COP ($FFE4), BRK ($FFE6), NMI ($FFEA) and
IRQ ($FFEE).  These vectors will also point to invalid code (they are
part of the monitor's command lookup table).

This means that if you're writing code that runs in 65802 native mode
on a IIe (or IIc), you must have interrupts disabled, and make sure
you don't execute any BRK or COP instructions.  Interrupts should not
be enabled again until you return to emulation mode.

The only exception to this is if you're using the language card
yourself (maybe under DOS 3.3, but not ProDOS) - you can then set up
the vectors yourself.


The IIgs has legal values in all vectors, so it supports emulation mode
and native mode interrupts.  The IIgs always fetches interrupt vectors
from the ROM, so there is no problem with native mode interrupts under
ProDOS or Pascal.



Another possibile cause of the problem is if the RANA drive's
interface card is executing an illegal 6502 opcode.  Most of these
result in a 'no operation' on the 65C02, have peculiar effects on the
6502, but are valid instructions on the 65802.
-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand