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From: Rich Fromm 07-Jan-1993 1638 <fromm@rock.enet.dec.com>
Subject: some slightly more detailed info about upcoming shows (Portland, Providence, NYC)
Reply-To: fromm@rock.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:38:48 GMT

Wed Feb 3, Portland Expo, Portland Maine
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the number in the newsletter (800-828-7080) is the number for TicketPro; the box 
office phone number is 207-874-8200; tickets are available at the box office 
ONLY on the day of the show, if there are any left (doubtful nowadays); advance 
tix can only be purchased through TicketPro; the venue holds approximately 
2,700; the show is General Admission (yeah!); there are seats on the floor and 
in the bleachers, so there is no open space without seats (boo); tickets go on 
sale on Fri Jan 8 at 10 AM; tickets are $16.50 each, plus $3.50 TicketPro 
surcharge; 4 tix max per person

Thurs Feb 4, Performing Arts Center, Providence, Rhode Island
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if you wish to not patronize TicketMaster, the box office does offer charge by 
phone (yeah!); you can call them at 401-421-ARTS; the venue holds approximately 
3,200; the show is Reserved seating (boo), and there are seats everywhere - no 
open space to dance (boo); tickets go on sale Sat Jan 9 at 10 AM; tickets are 
$21.50 and $20; the cheap seats are for the third (yikes!) balcony; charge by 
phone at the box office has a $2.50 per ticket surcharge; i forgot to ask what 
the max per person ticket limit is; i didn't bother calling TicketMaster, 
although i believe that the local TicketMaster number is 401-331-2211 (but you 
probably ought to check on that)

Fri Feb 5, Sat Feb 6, Roseland Ballroom, Manhattan, NY, NY
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the venue holds approximately 3,200; the show is General Admission (yeah!) and, 
get this, there is open space everywhere (YEAH!!!); when it's not used for 
concerts, it's a ballroom!  lots of room to dance!  (ok, i'll cut it with the 
editorial comments); tickets are NOT available at the box office, but if you 
have any other questions you can call them at 212-247-0200; you can order 
tickets through TicketMaster starting at 9 AM on Fri Jan 8; the local TM number 
is 212-307-7171; tickets are $18.50 apiece, but they didn't know what the 
surcharges would be (keep in mind that TM now usually has a bullshit "per order" 
charge in addition to the damn "per ticket" charge); and i forgot to ask what 
the max per person ticket limit is; the newsletter also says that tix are 
available at "Bleeker Bob's", but, not being from the area, i have no clue about 
that


all of this additional info i got just by making phone calls; so, if any of it 
is wrong, don't blame me, blame Wilson

c-ya on tour!

- rich

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: les@ravel.udel.edu (Matthew Re Templeton)
Subject: Re: Phish Tour Dates, February, 1993
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 06:15:26 GMT

In article <1ib75lINNojg@agate.berkeley.edu> shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson) writes:
>Phish Tour Dates!  ***  February, 1993
>
>13: Bob Carpenter Center, Newark, Delaware
>University of Delaware, Newark, Delaware -- (302) 831-4016
>(on sale tba after 1/8 @ Ticketmaster)

Shell, you just made my week!  I've never been able to trek out and see Phish
live before, and now you're telling me they're playing in my own backyard???
SWEEEEEEEEET!  I don't even have to drive to see them.  (BTW, Newark/University
Police are possibly the most anal meter/parking people on the planet.  Road-
trippers beware....)

Thanks a bunch Shelly!!! :) :) :)

Peace,

	Matt

Oh, by the way, I was lurking for the last two weeks, but was to busy to post.
Is it too late to go

FLUFFYFLUFFYFLUFFYFLUFFYFLUFFYFLUFFYHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!    ?

;)
-- 
Matthew Reed Templeton  			  aka les@ravel.udel.edu
  Life is a precious thing - don't let it slip away.  In other words...
			  LIFE IS SHORT, PLAY!
                Smile 'til your face freezes that way! :^) 
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From: jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Jeff Althoff)
Subject: The New PhishNet Shirt
Organization: Institute for the Theoretical Physics
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:10:30 GMT

I Just wanted to mention that the New PhishNet shirt is
absolutely fantastic!!! It came out great, beautiful even.

I got more compliments on that shirt on NYE than I've ever gotten
for any other T-shirt.

A great job, Matt, thanks a lot!

-- 
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Jeff Althoff    jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: justin@galaxia.network23.com (Justin Brierley)
Subject: Sad story, hydrogen, etc...
Organization: Dave's Very Own Personal System
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:01:33 GMT

Howdy,
 well, just a few different things today. First, the sad news. Yesterday, my
pet lizard Wilson died. I'm not sure what did him in, but it was probably
from doing things that smart people don't do. Ironically, the newspaper
lining the bottom of his cage was the obituaries. My 2% of a buck about
wether or not they played I am Hydrogen at NYE. Perhaps they played it, but
jammed so much that they got comepletly side-tracked to the point where it
didn't sound the same anymore. A post for my friend: Does anyone know how to
get on some sort of Blues Traveller mailing list and/or have any tour info?
I had something else that I wanted to say, but I can't seem to think of it
right now. Oh well.
                             Justin Brierley
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: gehman@iscp.bellcore.com (Andrew Gehman)
Subject: Re: sound system
Organization: Bellcore
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 21:10:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.190012.15365@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, Jeff Maggard 08-Jan-1993 1343 <maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com> writes:
|> I was wondering what other folks think of Phish's current sound system.
|> After seeing them 3 times this fall (Albany, Springfield, and NYE) I'm
|> convinced that they need a new/better sound system for playing the larger
|> venues.
|> 
|> I've noticed that they consistently pump very little bass drum or bass
|> guitar through their PA system.  The high frequencies coming from the PA are
|> painful, and the mids and low-mids are all rather muffled.  (I wonder if
|> that's because they've run out of power???)  Also, there seems to be a LOT
|> of midrange and low-mid echo.  While a hockey rink gives them a pretty damn
|> good excuse for not having good sound, they sounded rather crappy at
|> Springfield, and Albany wasn't much better.  (FYI, the Springfield show was
|> held in a 'Symphony Hall' and I consider the Palace Theater in Albany to be
|> layed out for excellent acoustics too.)

I saw the recent shows at Philadelphia, Port Chester and New Haven.
All these were in nice theatres that you would expect to have decent
acoustics. I thought the sound was fair to good at Philly and Port
Chester. The clarity of the sound could have been better. For instance
it was hard to understand the lyrics unless you already knew the words.
I thought that the sound at New Haven was appreciably better - don't
know why, and there was A LOT of bass in the mix - too much at first.
I haven't seen them in one of the larger gym-like venues.
So overall I'd say the sound system is decent, but there's room for
improvement.

-- bonehead
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From: Jeffrey J Radice <jjr%genesis.uucp@gte.com>
Subject: phish stickers
Reply-To: jjr%genesis.uucp@gte.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:51:15 GMT

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From: Lee Silverman <LEE@brownvm.brown.edu>
Subject: Large files on Archive
Reply-To: LEE@brownvm.brown.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:47:30 GMT

Over the past few months, a number of people have requested files from
Phish Archives only to find that the files are too large for their
mailers to handle.  To alleviate this problem, I can mail you the
files in compressed form.  Here's what I recommend:
Unix: Compressed then UUencoded.  (Unix users might consider FTP)
IBM: PKZIP then UUencode.
Mac: Compact Pro or Stuffit, then Binhex.

Hope this helps someone...


Set the Record Levels for the high gear of your soul!!
Pandion                                       Pandion@Brown.edu
(Lee Silverman)                               LEE@BROWNVM
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: CERBERUS <S19100@siena.bitnet>
Subject: Roll Call & Rift
Reply-To: S19100@siena.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:05:43 GMT

First, the roll call: HERE!
Secondly, Richard Stern asked in digest 705 if Rift was available to radio
stations yet, the answer is no. I work at a station and called up our rep
this morning, she told me we would probably get it by the end of the month,
and that we would be on the first mailing.
Thirdly, I am finally going to give in and buy a DAT because I have gotten
hassled bringing my PCM Beta into shows. However, I will not have anything to
offer for trade on this format. HOWEVER, I would be willing to let something
out that I have not previously released: I have a master soundboard from when
Phish played at Aikos in Saratoga Ny, (spring '90- consult the HPB for the date,
I don't have it here at work with me :-)). This was recorded with the permission
of the band on a Tascam 32 open reel deck at 7 1/2 inches per second. Anyone who
would like to trade a DAT copy of a favorite Dead or Phish board in exchange for
an analog copy from my master of this show, let me know. I know that this is a
little unethical, but I would rather cause a little controversy than grovel!
Also, if you are not interested in this show, but would be willing to trade
DAT for analog of something else...I have over 4,000 hours of the finest boards
and audience masters around.

lastly, shouldn't "fluffhead" be "PHLUFFHEAD"?! ;*)

Steve Franklin
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Jeff Althoff)
Subject: Newsletters/West/I'm Back
Organization: Institute for the Theoretical Physics
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:08:44 GMT

Hi Everyone!

I'm back home now after a hair-raising cross country drive through
some serious blizzards.

Has a newsletter come out with the east coast dates? I've been trying 
like hell to get on the mailing list and I still haven't gotten anything.

Does anyone have any inside info/semi-reliable rumors on West coast 
Phish dates? I'm involved in some fairly intricate travel planning
now, and any info would be helpful.

I had a fine time at the NH/Springf/NYE run, and it was great seeing and
talking with some of you. Hi again to  Shelly, catphish, Tim and 
Heidi (congrats again!), bongo, Cindy, Rich, Matt, Sean, Jeff, nitewing, 
and anyone else who I'm forgetting at the moment! 
 At NH on the 2nd night I had a 
3rd row seat right in front of the stacks on Page's side. At first I
was worried that it would be too loud, but after a bit I reached 
that state of "Zen Loudness" :-) where the music was so loud that 
I couldn't even think of anything else. It was fantastic, one
of the greatest concert experiences I've ever had.

Thanks for any info/help anyone can give!
Jeff. 
-- 
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Jeff Althoff    jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: ericbe@microsoft.com (Eric Berman)
Subject: Re: Deconstructing a Mountain
Date: 08 Jan 93 16:18:03 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1993Jan8.012622.3307@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> akeeton@euclid.ucsd.edu writes:
>	I'm interested in a lesson in music theory - I know nuthin'.
>Take Tweezer for example. I really love the way they bulid & build,
>climb & climb, build & climb, climb & build up the mountain (yes, my
>dear beloved, the very SAME mountain that the good Col. climbed.) Then
>when the get up (past) the top they  unwind & deconstruct  the other
>side of said mountain while falling down it. 
>	The forty million dollar question is: Is there a name for this
>technique? I'm EXTREMELY interested in any other comments of a musical 
>(or non-musical for that matter) nature regarding Phish songs.
>
Yup.  It's called climbing and building, building & climbing.  Also
frequently referred to as a "Crescendo" (pronounced "krah-shen-doe") and
"Decrescendo," although these terms are usually used for somewhat shorter
duration rises and falls (i.e., on the order of a few measures or maybe
a verse, but rarely the entire extent of the song which seems to be the
case in Tweezer or (more notably) Tweezer Reprise.).

Hope that helps!

--Eric


Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Allan Keeton <akeeton@euclid.ucsd.edu>
Subject: Heavy Lurking
Reply-To: akeeton@euclid.ucsd.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:36:13 GMT

I about about to break a sacred trust with Lurkers everywhere . . . but,
the truth must out! Enfolded into the normal posts of you the normal
net. posters are the virtual posts that the Lurkers thought about
posting but never did. Don't expect to see them unless you are a genuine
Lurker. And don't expect to save up UPC symbols (the modern world
eschewing box-tops for these little patches of zebra skin) off some
future Dude O' Life or Sugar Frosted Phish Crispies cereal boxes to send
away for a Lurker Decoder Ring. Oh No, to see these beauts one must
seriously lurk. Lurk as if your life depended on it! I'm talking supreme
lurk-NESS here . . . Locust level lurking. If you do, then you monitor
will begin to swirl & the words will take on a multicolred hue. Instead
of the usual integer post numbers you'll notice that there sub- posts
will have irrational numbers (the posts themselves, however, can be
quite lucid).
	Sorry, for letting the family secret out - but as a
semi-recently reformed Lurker I thought the net should know.

			-Allan
			I post, therefore I am.
From: cs166wbz@sdcc5.ucsd.edu (Mark Trostler)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: The Far Out West
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:35:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

All right everybody, I'm back from vacation ready for some action!
Sounds like the New Years' shows were outrageous - I hope all of you
fully appreciated them - imagine seeing Phish once or twice a year!
Anyway, maybe the sun out here has fried my brain, but I think us
Phishy people should designate ourselves Phish Mongers - this  
"Phish head" thing just doesn't do it for me... (maybe Mongos for
short).  Or maybe "Phishermen" (Phisherwomen or Phisherpeople
if ya wanna get real crazy and p.c. at the same time).  
ANYWAY, is there a mailing address for Phish tape lists like on
rec.music.gdead?  Or do I have to blatantly say I got 30 hours of
great Phish, half of which are West Coast shows?  And I want to
trade like an antelope, out of control?  Also got 300+ hours of
Grateful Dead, Allman Bros., some Widespread Panic, & Bela Fleck,
even some Pink Floyd lying around I'd gladly trade for more Phish?
I'd be more than happy to send my Phish list to anyone who's vaguely
interested - the Grateful Dead tapes aren't online yet, but will be
soon...  I can't wait to phollow Phish up & down CA whenever they 
get out here.... have pity on me....

		Phish Mongers Unite!
					Mark
P.S. Did someone mention Fluffhead?

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: scott@goedel.news.mitre.org (Scott Blomquist)
Subject: Re: Another Beginner Tape Offer
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:21:39 GMT


   >The first 5 people that send me mail, with NO or few tapes to trade,
   >to help along beginners, I'll make 2 or 3 tapes, from my small
   >collection, for you if you send postage and tapes.
   >
   >I'll post when the 5 slots are filled.

All the slots are filled. Actually six of 'em.  If this works out,
I'll do it again, though.

				Keep Phish'n
				
				Scott.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Allan Keeton <akeeton@euclid.ucsd.edu>
Subject: re: wing & a hinge
Reply-To: akeeton@euclid.ucsd.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 21:43:31 GMT

Hi Shawn!
	I just knew you had some good stuff on Gamehenge. Let me explain
myself a bit here. Certainly, the main story line could proceed quite
nicely without the famous one. For me, however, the winged wonder is the
metaphorical hinge in Gamehenge. It is the mockingbird's presence in the
story which tells us that the cycle is being played out under the trickster's
banner. The Hopi clowns that you so rightly mention did behave like
mockingbirds (if I remember correctly.) They would follow behind someone
 (particularly the village elders) mocking their movements and imatating
their speech. Sort of like Chevy Chase used to do on Weekend Update.
	Now, the bird just appears to be Icculus' messenger but I think
these two are intertwined. As you pointed out - Read-Icculus =
redicculus (sp?) & so they are both aspects of the trickster. Moreover,
the rubber-fixtion of the mockingbird seems to resonate with the Christ
story. Icculus, the Mockingbird & the HPB are the crazy left handed
version of the father, the son & the holy ghost.
	Ah, yes, crazy wisdom. This brings us to the (Da-da-ta   DUM!!)
F*cking book. YES The most wonderful book! the book used to be
plentiful. Everywhere - life was grand. Then with the coming of the
tyrannical Wilson. The book is reduced to just one. And this one
remaining copy resides with the mocking-Icculus-bird. What does the book
say? The book probably is a mocking reflection of the lizards, a clown
koan. The effect of which is to make one aware of the fact that "the
book" really is everywhere. It is this knowledge that authority & power
seeks to thwart. That the craetion is happening NOW, & it is a cosmic
joke!
	But of course, er, ah, I could be wrong.
		
			-allan
& we are still left with the question: Why is ye old bird so f*cking
famous?
From: roek@elm.egr.msu.edu (Daniel Roek)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Tapers need a home
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:25:44 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Michigan State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: elm.egr.msu.edu

In article <C0r7rx.9Ev@unix.amherst.edu>, hamcquil@unix.amherst.edu (HARRY ALOYSIUS MCQUILLEN) writes:

|> And on the idea of a tapers section, I'm split. While it makes logical sense,
|> it seems to me like it diffirentiates tapers from the rest of the human
|> populace.


With Paul's new rule about restricting taping to behind the board combined
with the departure from general admission venues, it is vital to have
a taping section.  At the shows I've taped recently, the owners of the seats
directly behind the board have been pretty open to giving up their seats
to tapers, but I have seen at least one guy move his mics. to make way for
the actuall owner of the seat.  A taping section would clear up that problem.

Also, it would be easier on Chris and Paul.  Tapers tend to be a little less
rowdy than the average fan, and, with tapers behind them instead of non-
tapers, they would have one less thing to worry about during the show.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: hamcquil@unix.amherst.edu (HARRY ALOYSIUS MCQUILLEN)
Subject: Re: We Need Mailorder!!
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:38:21 GMT

Restricted to Zip Code!! What about those of us who drive 8 and 10 hours
to possible shows when our schedules allow or do not allow it. (Aside, talking
to one of my friends. "Well, if any shows are within, say a days travel
from me, I'll go to them", Me:"What about your new found attentiveness to
your studies", Him:"Well, that doesn't count when it comes to Dead and Phish
shows")

Anyway, back to my point. Am I any less worthy of a ticket if I happen
to be travelling to see a gig? Or if I just happen to be in town when Phish
comes but I really live halfway across the country? I think if Phish had
a mail order ticket system it should be first come, first served.

And on the idea of a tapers section, I'm split. While it makes logical sense,
it seems to me like it diffirentiates tapers from the rest of the human
populace. At new years eve, for instance, when I was up in front enjoying
the show, at least 20 people, both net and non-net, asked me, hey, why
aren't you taping?. Not agressively or anything, but it still is annoying.

Harry

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Adam.Levin@launchpad.unc.edu (Adam Levin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Phish Tour Dates, February, 1993
Date: 7 Jan 93 03:19:47 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1993Jan7.025652.788@samba.oit.unc.edu> elessar@PHYSICS.UNC.EDU (Shawn Mehan) writes:
>Memorial Hall is perhaps the worst musical hall ever. The building predates
>human life on earth, thus the architects had anything but accoustical
>engineering in mind when they built it. I mean this place
>SUCKS. Seats everywhere, no (NO)!! place to spread (except in the
>20x70 lobby in the front, with a wall between you and the venue.
>Security is ver (nazi like) strict. bitch bitch moan moan.

Sure, go ahead and give me something to look forward to. 8(
I'm moving from Masachusetts, where I've never been able to get tickets.
I'm moving to North Carolina where you're telling me the show is gonna
suck! ARGGGHHH! WHY ME!?!?

Do you know anything about the place they're playing at in Winston-Salem?

-Adam
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From: "Eric M. Budke" <budkee@unvax.union.edu>
Subject: Name thing again
Reply-To: budkee@unvax.union.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:22:29 GMT

I keep wanting to post this tidbit, but always forget.
From the very beginning with Phishhead there was a problem.
I believe Radiator's fans have already taken that name.
They spell it with a F but when spoken who's to know the difference.
Also to add some money to the pot.  The dead are not the only band
with ...head named followers.  Ya got Parrot head which for the most 
part the fans have little resemblance to the dead's there is some though.
But who cares.  There were other bands but I don't think that the epople are
trying to copy the dead-like persona.  I for one would never confuse a 
Parrot head and a dead head or ph(f)ishhead.  People can overlap.
If they didn't the world would suck. 
-- 
                          Eric Budke    budkee@unvax.union.edu
                          "Pressure?  Pressure is something that
                           goes in tires"   -Barkley
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