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From: jcherney@envy.reed.edu (Joel Alexander Charney)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Acid Music (sorry to net.vets)
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:22:17 GMT
Reply-To: jcherney@reed.edu
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <mtymp15.721453627@staff.tc.umn.edu> mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu  
(David Hutton) writes:
> But what is better ten fold in comparison to watching a movie, is to put  
on
> decent tunes (no overplayed stuff at MY house - no floyd (unless  
obscure), no
> marley, no morrison, no doors) and then visualize my OWN movies.
> 
> 
> Many people would ask (and it is a good question) why I reject the  
staples of
> my aural diet while under the influence of delta-9-THC, and the answer  
is that
> when tripping, it is best to always look for something new.
> 
> Old songs also can dredge up bad (or good) memories of times you've had  
when
> listening to said tune.  Can be unpredictable.
> 
> NOW, it's your turn to talk.  Tell me what your personal favorite music  
is
> when (IF) you are (WERE) tripping!

Okay, time to cast "Animate Dead" on this old thread...Some of my personal  
faves: 

Pretty much any Cowboy Junkies album.  Really mellow stuff, and great to 
relax to.  I also happen to like Rush; not tremendously trippy music  
(although "Xanadu" has made me trip HARD more than once), but very well  
done.  The best, however, (IMHO) is the Church.  Am I the only one to find  
this group trememnously psychadelic?  Especially from "Heyday" onward,  
their sound has been lush, full... psychadelic.
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From: tlglover@nyx.cs.du.edu (Tracy  Glover)
Subject: Mail order Organic Herbs from exotic places etc...
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 22:26:23 GMT


I am looking for various mail order companies from which I could order
organic herbs from S. AMerica & Asia.  If anyone knows of any please
e-mail me.   
Glovert@ashley.cofc.edu

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From: ward@cs.uiuc.edu (Christ Ward)
Subject: Re: Head Shops in Denver
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:00:53 GMT

robc@wicat (Rob Carlson) writes:


>	Does anyone know if there are any head shops left in Denver? It's 
>been a couple of years since I've been back to my hometown but this 
>Thanksgiving will be spent with my parents and I sure could use some new 
>parts for my 11 year old bong.

>	I remember three: 'Happy Trails' on East Colfax, 'Rolling Stone '
>across the street from it and my favorite 'Home Sweet Home' on Sheridan. 
>I have heard that they started enforcing the paraphenalia laws and ran them 
>all out of business. Is this true? Surely there must be some in Boulder?
>Thanks in advance.

The past two times I've been through Denver I've stopped in at 'Heads of State',
they were very cool...even gave me some stuff (stickers that is).  So if your
in Denver let us midwestern folks know the low down.  

thank you for your suport...

ward DoD#0710




>Rob Carlson
From: cb@wixer.cactus.org (Cyberspace Buddha)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Acid activities
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:36:08 GMT
Organization: Real/Time Communications

onda@ab.wvnet.edu writes:
>	FINE NOBODY WANT TO REPLY TO WHAT I SAID ABOUT GOING TO SUPERMARKETS OR
>	STAYING OUTSIDE FINE!!!!!!   i can understand i am just not anybody
>cool  enough to respond to or to even make friends with FINE.  i don't need	
>any of you (even though i may some day but not right now)  i am just looking 
>for some stimulating conversation but i guess i can't find it in this
>newsgroup oh well i don't really give a flying f**k( i am doing that for school
>resrictions)  well thanks for the needed encouragement.
>

well, if the above is your normal response to being slighted in the least,
it's no wonder that you're lonely.

Even so, I like being outside, tripping or no.  One of these days I
want to spend a fun-filled evening at Enchanted Rock.  Still trying
to decide wether to go no a full moon or a new moon though.

cb
-- 
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cb@wixer.cactus.org } do not pay attention to what you already know? {  \o)/
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From: kisaacso@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kevin "Zonker" Isaacson)
Subject: Menthol! was Re: Snow Bong! (was Bong ideas)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: hope
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 03:42:14 GMT

In article <BxBIIJ.913@news.cso.uiuc.edu> rint69@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (rintoul bradley e) writes:
>I missed the original post and I hope I'm 
>not wasting your time...
>
>(Not a real hard one to think of but...)
>try packin' the bong wit snow.
>
>It will lead to a cool buzz
>
>

For an interesting effect, try filling a bong or water pipe with pepermint
Schnapps.  Nice if you like menthol flavor bong hits.


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Subject: Re: DMSO as carrier?
From: Seth Malcolm Redmore <sr2s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Thu,  5 Nov 1992 06:27:34 -0500 
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hi there!

DMSO will carry "stuff" through the skin with it, however
its use in transderm patches is limited to those drugs which
require < 10-15 mg per day.  (Yes, I'll get the reference on this,
if anyone cares.)

So, based on this, and based on what I have seen, it probably wouldn't
be RealEffective in carrying, say, enough heroin through to stone ya.

DMSO doesn't zip through the skin, leaving no sign of it's
passage, its like smearing motor oil on your skin.  Sure, some penitrates,
but it leaves a lot behind.

A carrier like this would be perfect for soething like LSD, as
the dosage is very low, however the convenience factor is low.

DMSO has a very low vapor pressure and a very high boiling point,
so it hangs around for _days_ if you spill it.  Weeks, even.
(I was running a recrystallization in boiling (!) DMF/DMSO, got
it  all over myself (the DMSO, that is, burned hell out of me))
(Fortunatley, I hadn't added the DMF yet)

So, this leads one to the conclusion that this would be a good way to
dose someone against their will.  Something I am _way_ against.

I dunno if this would work, you know, smear some LSD laced DMSO
on a doorknob/steering wheel/vibrator, and let it sit for the unwary
victim.  I have a suspicion that unless the trap was sprung within
a few hours/a day, the LSD would oxidize to an inert form.

Hmmmmm, as I sit here rambling, I wonder if it would be a more effective
administration method to use DMSO as a carrier, instead of oral
ingestion.

Also, when taking it orally, wouldn't it be better to keep it under
one's tongue? (the blotter or whatever...)

Hmmmm...

I have _no_ experience with acid (well, of the lysergic variety),
shit, I've never even seen it.  So, take these ramblings with
a grain of salt.

--Seth
From: un040367@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Effects of Perfect Duster (Chlorofluromethane)
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:32:10 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In article <1992Oct28.203705.3035@muddcs.claremont.edu>, ileicht@jarthur.claremont.edu (Spiff) writes:
>> Freon might be fun to try once.  However long-term use can have serious
>> effect on the liver, not to mention the ozone layer.
> 
> Well actualyl the bottle said soemthing to the effect that it was
> ozone safe (for all the ecologically minded out there).
>                        
> "Serious effect on the liver". Why would inhaling CFC's have a serious
> effect on the liver when Nitrous doesn't?
> 

The two effects are quite unrelated. N2O is no where near as nasty.
It is not a chlorocarbon.

Jeremy
(jeremy@rsc3.anu.edu.au - do not mail to this address)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: Intro to Extasy
Organization: Microdata Oy
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:24:44 GMT

twiggs_te@lrc.edu writes:

>  (3) Administration - easy.  I've done it to several unknowing people, 
>	including a religious fanatic, and they ALL absolutely loved it.
>	All you do is put the powder in their drink or on some of their
>	food.  Make sure, though, that the powder is good X.

   I sincerely hope that you will get a cap full of strychnine some time.
--
Jani Heinonen                    "Tonight when I chase the dragon,
jah@mits.mdata.fi                 The water may turn to cherry wine
Finger for public PGP key         And the silver will turn to gold
E-mailed upon request             Time out of mind."
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From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: [anonymous] Mail-Order Head Shops
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:33:28 GMT

I believe that the DEA has seized customer lists of mailorder businesses 
that advertise in High Times, so you might think twice about what sort
of things you buy through the mail and who you give your address to. If
you're concerned about these things you might want to pay for stuff in cash, 
in person. 

  - Malcolm 

--

TOO MANY LOOPS IN LINE 41, PRESS ESCAPE TO CONTINUE	
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: LSD manufacture
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:50:42 GMT

eesnyder@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Eric E. Snyder) writes:
>raa@guild.socal.com (Raa Lopez) writes:
>
>>Yes ... LSD is organic. LSD is extracted from "Ergot" (?) the fungus 
>>that grows on Rye ... or any grain. Just thought i'd clear that up.
>
>Yes, it's organic.  No it is not extracted from ergot.  Direct precursors
>of LSD are present in ergot but LSD itself.  Just thought I'd clear *that*
>up!

AND JUST TO CLEAR EVERYTHING UP ONCE AND FOR ALL, YOU DONT NEED AN
OCHEM DEGREE LIKE AXEMAN SAID!!!!!

But you do probably need about three years or so at least.  Unless you're
going for the complete synthesis in which case you need a PhD and the hand of
God to help you...

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From: dpotosky@dewey.NMSU.Edu (David Potosky)
Subject: Penalties for Acid Dealing?
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:54:45 GMT

As I understand it, if you are caught with more that a gram of lsd, (paper  
weight incl) it is life imprisonment....(something I THINK I read)

Please confirm or refute this.  Thank you in advance

--
David P. Potosky
Computer Science Dept.
New Mexico State University
dpotosky@NMSU.edu
From: bx461@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Leo J. Mauler)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: SEX on Acid
Date: 11 Nov 1992 05:55:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


>[girlfriend gets scared during acid-assisted sex because she]
>[feels she's paralyzed......................................]

Hey, sounds to me like she just had one of those "Richter Scale"
orgasms!  Nothing to worry about: I've had them, and the
paralysis goes away quickly.  When your time sense is screwed
up, like while tripping, it feels like it lasts longer, and
since you're so used to having enhanced sensations, the general
numbness you get from those orgasms makes it feel like you
can't move for awhile.

Nope, you didn't tell her any lies, she just had a great sexual
experience, and the acid effects just made the perfectly
ordinary sensations seem bad.

-- 
Never do this at home.  Look how easily it killed this sig.
/\  ___/\  ___/\  _____________________________________________
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DISCLAIMER: Everything I say is false, including this sentence.
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:18270 talk.bizarre:37907
From: lordSnooty@cup.portal.com (Andrew - Palfreyman)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Ice Man Had Mushrooms
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 19:38:38 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Nov11.051246.24969@u.washington.edu><1992Nov11.055943.6256@netcom.com
 > <1dspdmINNg0f@agate.berkeley.edu>
  <TRIF.92Nov12042337@bike.rad.washington.edu>

Curtis Yarvin writes:
:    But it was good.  I spent those two minutes alternately cramped-
:    double in vicious convulsions, and coming up with metaphor
:    extensions for the large deposit of semen that the autopsy
:    found deep within the Ice Man's rectum.

The US media neglected also to mention that the semen has been
identified as that of a Hairy Mammoth, and the fact that the man
had an enormously surprised rictus grin on his face.
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From: ahead@nyx.cs.du.edu (Adam Head)
Subject: New MDMA-like drugs?
Keywords: MDMA MBDB PCA FLENFLURAMINE
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 12:49:40 GMT


The following is taken from the Annals New York Academy of Sciences v600
1990:
'
  'Is it possible that S-fenfluramine might have psychopharmacology
  similar to MDMA or MBDB?  To our knowledge, no clinal studies have
  been conducted with high does of S-fenfluramine, so this cannot
  at present be answered.  However, the animal studies reported here
  suggest that S-flenfluramine and S-MBDB might well be similar in
  humans at appropriate dose ranges.  Further, our results also
  suggest that para-chloroamphetamine might have clinical effects
  resembling MDMA and MBDB.  Although N-methyl-PCA was studied as
  an antidepressant, there are no reports of clinical studies that
  contain sufficient detail to determine this.'

 

 
 
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From: bowman@reed.edu (BoBoRamDos)
Subject: Re: Acid activities (Vitamin C)
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:00:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.231452.3603@netcom.com> rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
>brash@ocf.berkeley.edu (Aaron Brashears) writes:
>: ALD costs $900 a gram and LSD costs $2000-$3000 a gram.  A medium level
>: dealer could buy a half of a gram of LSD and a quarter of a gram of ALD with
>: a total cost of aound $1500, but have close to $2000 worth of saleable
>: product.  ALD causes many of the bad feelings associated with bad acid,
>: including cramping, confusion, and delerium at levels under 100ug.  This is
>: because even though ALD has similer effects as LSD, ALD is toxic.
>What on earth is ALD?

If memory serves, it's ALD-56.  Folklore claims it was invented by Owsley,
but I've no idea if it's true.  It is mentioned, I believe, in _Acid Dreams_.
Based on that book as well as anecdotal evidence, I suspect you are incorrect
about the "cramping.." etc. business. Do you have anything to back up this 
claim?  Owsley certainly seemed to think it was good shit.

>: Just a reminder: if you have clean, pure acid, you feel good, have a very
>: natural feel about yourself, and you can sleep.
>This generalization is false.  I had a fair amount of the legendary
>Owsley stuff many years ago which is still reputed to be finest grade
>illictly produced LSD there ever was and sometimes we felt good and
>sometimes we didn't.  I never remember feeling natural about anything.
>Sleep!?

People really do fall asleep sometimes.  I overheard a conversation at the 
Oregon Country Fair about some guy who had recently received a large quanity
of said substance in crystal form, and decided to test it out on himself.
He had apparently been very high for several hours, then stretched out and
slept for 5 hours or something, then awoke and continued with the fun.

bobo
bowman@reed.edu
This Is Not A Coupon
From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Acid activities
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:57:48 GMT
Organization: none

In article <1992Nov5.170157.26928@prime.mdata.fi> jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla) writes:
>In article <1db9boINN6fa@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk> esrec@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr C L Mountford) writes:
>>	My acid using friends use Vitamin C to abort bad trips. Apparently
>>it brings you down prematurely, don't ask me how. Can anyone confirm or
>>provide definite evidence to contrary? (And no bullshit please).
>
>A friend of mine told me that whenever she's taken acid and eaten fruits
>or drank orange juice the trip ended pretty fast and the visuals were
>quite unnoticeable.
>
>--
>jjj@mits.mdata.fi     Thanks, Life; thanks, Death    And the other me:
>jjj@niksula.hut.fi    for freeing me from self       Jenny L{rv{joki

Funny, but xsome of the best stuff I ever did, came on Vitamin C
tablets, and believe me it did not "abort" anything. I have always heard
that LSD metabolizes Vit. C, and that is why you wish to take
extra. Niacin will help to bring you down if you really need it.

					--Judex--
PS: Actually, it was the process of your body metabolizing the  acid that
burns up the C. Or so I have been told, by some who should have known...
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From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: Acid activities
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 16:04:01 GMT

1) read the FAQ about vitamin C.

2) I've heard so many stories about it that conflict it isn't funny.
Some say it intensifies.  Some say it aborts the trip.  Some say it
rejuvenates the trip if you drink some a long ways into it.

Personally, I think it's good for you, and might wake your body up some,
but I doubt it has any pharmacological basis.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
               The animal that coils in a circle is the serpent;
   that's why so many cults and myths of the serpent exist, because it's hard
      to represent the return of the sun by the coiling of a hippopotamus.
From: despair@netcom.com (Scott Hanson)
Subject: Re: DMSO as carrier?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 15:13:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.072144.2083@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
>Seth Malcolm Redmore <sr2s+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>>DMSO will carry "stuff" through the skin with it, however
>>its use in transderm patches is limited to those drugs which
>>require < 10-15 mg per day.  (Yes, I'll get the reference on this,
>>if anyone cares.)
>
>So what else is used in transderm patches, or is that it?
>What's the ref, btw?

It seems logical that the amount transferred would be proportional to the
surface area covered.  Perhaps the 10-15 mg/day assumes all concealed skin
is utilized.

-- 
Scott Hanson		This has been a recording.
despair@netcom.com
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From: harveytj@kirk.aston.ac.uk (FUN is on priority setting)
Subject: re:guarana
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Aston University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 11:56:00 GMT

Hi.....
	I haven't ever posted before (despite having followed this group 
for a while) .....i hope this works! (-:


I've tried guarana (or however it's spelt)......does anyone know what you 
can do to make the powder version taste better ....it tastes real earthy...
.i've tried it in tea, then in fruit juice.....the "buzz gum" form is good
....and i should imagine the elixier is....but it's v.expensive....so i 
don't know.....


On the subject of powders, potions and assorted herbs......I am also 
experimenting with valarian at the moment....this to tastes unplesent.....
any ideas for taste improvement (i made tea with it) would be appreciated .
..also how much should / can i take?

		Thanks everso,

				Tamsyn
					xxx
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From: sorsha@wam.umd.edu (Laurie Beth Brunner)
Subject: Re: Bong Question
Keywords: anonymous
Reply-To: sorsha@wam.umd.edu (Laurie Beth Brunner)
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 07:27:33 GMT


I was in Turkey this summer, and while I was in Istanbul I bought
this really nifty nargile, a Turkish water pipe.  It's not quite 
like a bong, so I'm wondering exactly how to use it (not for anything
illicit, of course! ;-).

It has a bowl at the top, and a nozzle on the side where you attach
the hose through which you breathe.  The top part comes off so you
can pour water in the bowl.  A tube hangs down into the bowl, but
there is no other opening in the glass bowl.  How much water should 
I put in it?  Should the water go past the opening of the tube?

I know I sound silly, but I've never smoked from a bong since my 
first time 4 years ago (hmmm, the same year Bush was elected...
coincidence???), and since then I've either had little bat/dugout
hits, tried to roll, or made a soda-can bong. :-)


The Giver Goddess
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From: jbwell02@nx26.mik.uky.edu (john b wells)
Subject: I like acid...
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:22:34 GMT

III LIIIKKKE AAACCCIIIDDD!!!!

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From: jagged@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: ULTIMATE ACID MOVIE!!
Date: 5 Nov 92 11:55:18 CST
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

There has been a discussion on here about what movies to watch while
on LSD. Well from personal experience I would say the best movie for a
"pro tripper" would be "Altered States". For those of you who have
never heard of the movie I will give a brief promo. William Hurt (his
debut film) is a psy professor in the 60's who uses Sensory
Deprevation tanks (sdt) to induce halluinations. He takes a trip to Mexico
and gets some mushrooms for his studies and takes them back with him.
He makes the combination of SDT and the mushrooms and some very
interesting things happen. HINT: the indian trip scene and the Big
finale scene are the ultimate on Acid. 

Warning: First timers should not watch this because it envokes a sort
of paranoia that only experienced people know how to deal with. Even
for pro's it gets a little hairy towards the end. Have fun and don't
de-evolve!!!!!!!! 
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