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From: R.KITTREDGE@MD-B.Prime.COM (Roland Kittredge - Marketing 620-2800 x4666, 508)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: CV Article
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:43:44 GMT
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

PRM - PROFESSIONAL INVESTOR REPORT (PI)                       STORY 3

08/12 Computervision-2: '92 Pro Forma Rev Seen Down Again >CVN

   Computervision is the world's biggest supplier of workstation-based
CAD/CAM software and related services to the mechanical design automation
market.
   David Burdick, an analyst with market researcher Gartner Group, says the
recapitalization should help ease customers' concerns about doing business
with the company. The recapitalization will narrow Computervision's debt-
to-capitalization ratio to 76% from 160%.
   A newly revamped software product line and its availability in coming
months on different workstation brands also will help Computervision gain
market share over the next couple of years, Burdick believes.  The new
software matches or surpasses features offered by fast-growing Parametric
Technology, the competitor that has most encroached upon Computervision's
turf.
   ''Surprisingly, Computervision has kept research and development
expenditures constant during the last several years despite operating under
considerable financial duress,'' Burdick wrote in a recent report.  ''R&D
expenditures will likely remain at, or slightly above 10% (of revenues),
during the next several years giving Computervision the largest mechanical-
computer-aided R&D budget in the industry.''
   Computervision also could benefit from a meaningful economic upturn, as
about half of its product revenue last year came from the recession-hit
automobile and aerospace industries, another industry observer notes.
   But Computervision's total revenue outlook is more muddled.  According
to people familiar with the underwriters' presentation, some members of the
syndicate expect revenues in 1992 to fall 3% to 5% from $1.2 billion last
year, which excludes the discontinued computer business of Prime.  That
$1.2 billion in sales was down 7% from 1990.  Next year, they see revenues
flat or slightly lower again.
   Although Computervision no longer makes its own computers, it will
resell others' hardware.  Industry prices and profit margins have been
tumbling, so the company expects its hardware sales to continue to
decline. But the company's objective is to replace those revenues with
sales of more profitable software.  Revenue from servicing older Prime
computers also has been sliding, but the company is offsetting that with a
growing non-Prime service business.
   Underwriters anticipate the company's operating income will rise from
about $130 million on a pro forma basis this year to $145 million next
year.  Half of that increase will come from higher software revenue; the
other half from a reduction in operating expenses. -0-  3 31 PM EDT 08-12-
92}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: gml4410@ggr.co.uk (Lack Mr G M)
Subject: Re: A challenge - raise my confidence in Pr1me
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 18:05:38 GMT

     ...mind  you, it shouldn't be *impossible* to fix the C library, as
IOA$ and P$ANY2 seem to be able to cope admirably, as the following  SPL
version of the code shows, but isn't it (C) Pacer Software???....

======================================================================
(D)Ok slist clib_test.spl

CLIB_TEST: proc options(nocopy);

   dcl i bin;
   dcl (x, y) float(47);
   dcl strconv char(26) var;

   dcl ioa$ entry options(variable);

/* */

   x = 1d-6000;

   x = x * 1d-3865;

   do i = 1 to 10;
      y = x * i;                /* Binary version */
      strconv = y;              /* Implicit converison to string - P$ANY2 */
      call ioa$('y is %0.6:2e, strconv is %v.%.', 100, y, strconv);
   end;

end CLIB_TEST;
(D)Ok spl clib_test
[SPL Rev. T3.1-23.0 Copyright (c) 1991 Prime Computer, Inc.]
0000 ERRORS [SPL Rev. T3.1-23.0]
(D)Ok bind -lo clib_test -dynt -all
[BIND Rev. T3.1-23.0 Copyright (c) 1991, Prime Computer, Inc.]
[Serial #S03S-5NR1KE-2HBU (Glaxo Research)]
Creating dynamic links for all unresolved references
Processing entries:
IOA$        P$ANY2      
BIND COMPLETE
(D)Ok r clib_test
y is 1.000000E-9865, strconv is -9.9999999999997E-9866 .
y is 2.000000E-9865, strconv is -2.0000000000000E-9865 .
y is 3.000000E-9865, strconv is -2.9999999999999E-9865 .
y is 4.000000E-9865, strconv is -4.0000000000000E-9865 .
y is 5.000000E-9865, strconv is -5.0000000000000E-9865 .
y is 6.000000E-9865, strconv is -5.9999999999998E-9865 .
y is 7.000000E-9865, strconv is -6.9999999999998E-9865 .
y is 8.000000E-9865, strconv is -8.0000000000000E-9865 .
y is 9.000000E-9865, strconv is -8.9999999999997E-9865 .
y is 1.000000E-9864, strconv is -1.0000000000000E-9864 .
(D)Ok como -e



-------------------------- Gordon Lack ----------------------------------
The contents of this message *may* reflect my personal opinion.  They are
*not* intended to reflect those of my employer, or anyone else."

Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: urbans@lmv.lm.se (Urban Sundstrom)
Subject: Re: News Readers for PRIMOS
Organization: National Land Survey of Sweden, S-801 82 Gavle, Sweden. (LMV).
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:41:19 GMT

In article <1509@lysator.liu.se> pen@lysator.liu.se (Peter Eriksson) writes:
>sspencer@tmp_ip_004.trl.OZ.AU (Simon Spencer) writes:
>
>>As the subject says, (Sorry if this is a very silly question) 
>>Are there any News readers for Primos, if so where could i get one? 
>>Is there a public domain (free) version?
>
>Nope. Not that I know of. It shouldn't be that hard to port one of the
>normal ones though. Like "tin" or some other NNTP-based news reader.

Very fine. How much do you want to do the job. We are very interested
at our site. Of course it will be placed in the public domain after
the port is finished.

>Peter Eriksson                                              pen@lysator.liu.se
>Lysator Academic Computer Society                 ...!uunet!lysator.liu.se!pen
>University of Linkoping, Sweden                           I'm bored. Flame me.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: warelock@netrun.cts.com (Tom Zacharoff)
Subject: Re: Prime's Changes
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Organization: NetRunner's Paradise BBS, San Diego CA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:40:45 GMT

Eric@CCCC.CC.Colorado.Edu (Eric Ross) writes:

> From the July 27 issue of "Information Week":
>
> "Prime Computer, one of the old-line minicomputer makers, is getting
> out of the computer hardware business.  After an agreement with a
> management-led group that had wanted to purchase the hardware business
> fell apart, the decision was made to shut down its manufacturing
> operation.  Computervision, a Prime subsidiary and maker of CAD/CAM
> software, will not be affected.  Prime said the unit was unprofitable,
> and its revenue -- $169.7 million for 1991 -- had been in long-term
> decline.  The company will continue to service its installed base."
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Eric Ross  (eric@cccc.cc.colorado.edu)        Colorado College
> Administrative Computing                      14 E. Cache la Poudre
> (719) 389-6452                                Colorado Springs, CO  80903
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi. I saw your post and was wondering if you could help me out with something.
I work at a local community college that doesn't have an Internet site. We have
two Prime 5370's and an EXL box. We also have a three file server Novell
Network. I've established an Internet e-mail link for them so they can send and
receive email normally but no Usenet.

Here's the problem: Nobody at the college knows squat about the Internet let
alone that it even exists. I want to hook them up with contacts - anybody -
from another college that can be available to answer questions or just be
willing to converse with these people so they can get used to the idea of the
Internet.

If people start liking that they can use the Internet to communicate with
others, they might want to establish a full-blown Internet site! (complete with
FTP & TELNET)

Can you help me out with this? Or just point me to someone at your college who
can? Or at any other college? Preferably one with Prime systems?

---
warelock@netrun.cts.com (Tom Zacharoff)
NetRunner's Paradise BBS, San Diego CA
From: Slutz@s35.Prime.COM (Donald Slutz, slutz@s35)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: Re: Problems using t$mt
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:21:20 GMT
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

My manual says that EOT is 0x40 not 0x20.

I.E.
"     eot = stat_vec [1] & 0x20; " is wrong.

   -Don Slutz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: CH@CS-IND.Prime.COM
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 02:44:52 GMT

DID NOT GET ANY MESSAGE TED!    CHRIS
From: alan@res-c4.prime.com (Alan Dossett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: Re: A challenge - raise my confidence in Pr1me
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:56:24 GMT
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

If this is a serious bug that is causing you trouble, please report it to
PrimeService through the usual established channels so we can track it and
keep other customers who may be experiencing this problem informed.  (To date,
we do not have a SPAR [bug report] on this problem.)

If this bug is not actually causing you trouble, I am reluctant to divert
Engineering resources to address it as a high priority issue simply to prove
that someone is here.  Like all companies, we have a fixed amount of resources
that we should focus on problems that are of primary importance to our
customers.  If we work on problems that our customers don't care about, we're
not prioritizing our workload properly and we're not being as responsive as
we should be.

There is no doubt in my mind that we can fix bugs with the C compiler.  We
have very good engineers who support that compiler. If you need proof that
we're supporting products, consider this:  in the last twelve months, there
were 322 X/A priority SPARs submitted;  we fixed 410 X/A SPARs (there is a
small backlog that accounts for the larger number fixed than arrived).  Over
the same period, we fixed 780 B/C priority SPARs.  (X or A priority SPARs are
the most critical problems.  B or C priority SPARs are less severe.)

Here in PrimeService Engineering, we are alive and well, fixing problems for
you, our customers.

Alan Dossett
Manager, Systems Software Engineering
PrimeService
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: GORMAN_B@prime1.lancashire-poly.ac.uk (Barry Gorman)
Subject: Re: A challenge - raise my confidence in Pr1me
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:13:24 GMT

>Alan Dossett: please report via the usual channels...
>Urban Sundstrum: prime staff should follow the (cisco) list
>Eric Ross: Urban, I think that you are being a little unfair

Well I am Faculty and not Centre staff; so my "usual channels" are to report
any faults to the Centre. The Centre are fully streched supporting a network
of PC's and do not have (much) time for Pr1me support. Their attitude is that
there is no point reporting the fault to Pr1me, as we are running an old Rev
(21.0) and will simply be told to upgrade. So - my usual channel is a blind
alley.

What do other manufacturers do? There is an address bugs@borland.com for bug
reports. It may be a black hole, but it does exist. Urban has pointed-out the
cisco practice. Why can't Pr1me have a bugs e-mail hotline? Even if it only
told you how to raise a SPAR (I don't know how to) it would be useful.

As it is, in the past few months, I have found bugs in the C functions sqrt()
and printf(). As it happens, these uncovered latent problems affecting other
languages. In the case of sqrt() I was able to disassemble the library code
(I don't have source) and find the offending instructions.

On the plus side, I now know the e-mail address of somebody at Pr1me who is
knowledgeable, helpful, can actually do something about the problem, and who
doesn't treat me as an idiot. The last point is important to me, as there seems
to be a growing industry standard of poor treatment of the customer.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: pen@lysator.liu.se (Peter Eriksson)
Subject: Re: News Readers for PRIMOS
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Club, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:55:23 GMT

sspencer@tmp_ip_004.trl.OZ.AU (Simon Spencer) writes:

>As the subject says, (Sorry if this is a very silly question) 
>Are there any News readers for Primos, if so where could i get one? 
>Is there a public domain (free) version?

Nope. Not that I know of. It shouldn't be that hard to port one of the
normal ones though. Like "tin" or some other NNTP-based news reader.

>Lastly:

>Is there an FTP site of Primos (Public Domain) software on the net?

"ftp.lysator.liu.se" contains some. There are a few other sites too.

/Peter

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University of Linkoping, Sweden                           I'm bored. Flame me.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: A.0013@VCC3.vcc.bc.ca
Subject: Re: HP Font downloading
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:14:32 GMT

Is it possible to get a copy of your source program or the executable.
Jim

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Subject: Re: HP Font downloading
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

In comp.sys.prime article <9208132053.AA23679@usenet.rpi.edu> you  
wrote:
> Does anyone know of a way to upload a PC font to the Prime and then
> download this prime font file back to spooled HP laser printer.
> 

> I have tried using Primelink and the Binary option to upload the
> font to the Prime and then tried spool fontfile -no_format
> but this did not load correctly.

I solved that problem several years ago. Getting the font file from  
the PC to the Prime was not the problem, we used KERMIT and the IMAGE  
(binary) file-type, your PrimeLink/Binary likely did the job.

The trick was to get the file to the printer. I never did find the  
option(s) to get it done thru our non-Prime spooler. [... Lenghty  
diatribe re: Prime's spooler omitted...] So I wrote a simple FORTRAN  
font loader that ASSIGN's the serial line and downloads the font(s)  
*my way*. It does require shutting down, and re-starting, the printer  
from the spooler, but that was OK for my needs. 


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: ariel@world.std.com (Robert L Ullmann)
Subject: Re: Problems using t$mt
Organization: The World in Boston
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 23:28:45 GMT

Hi Ed!

I can't code this into PRIMOS without the reference book(s),
but in general terms the algorithm looks like this:

rewind
k = 0
do
	space block
	if status is eof break
	space file
	k++
	continue

k is now the number of files, the number of tape marks is k+1.
The interface might require read block rather than space block, 
but that would not be typical of the transports I am familiar 
with.

The problem is that space file will always move the transport
forward until just after the next file mark, and say "okay".
You have to recognize that you were just at a file mark, and
the next blip is another mark, therefore EOT.

Don't trust all if this implicitly, check it out against the
doc; but I believe that the T$MT call provides a very low
layer interface (load this register, interrupt and return
that one) and this is what the transport will do.

Cheers,
Rob
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From: R.KITTREDGE@MD-B.Prime.COM (Roland Kittredge - Marketing 620-2800 x4666, 508)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: CVN IPO
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:27:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.9208141832.AA06573
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM


PRM - PROFESSIONAL INVESTOR REPORT (PI)                       STORY 18

08/14 Stocks To Watch - Computervision IPO Priced At $12 >CVN

  COMPUTERVISION CORP. (CVN): An initial offering of 25 million of the
company's common shares was priced late yesterday at $12 each through
underwriters led by Lehman Brothers Inc.
  Of the shares being offered, 20 million will be sold in the U.S., and
5 million internationally.
  Computervision had most recently expected the shares to be offered
between $12 and $13 a share. Originally, the company had expected the
shares to be offered between $18 and $20 each. The size of the offering
was increased from the originally planned 15.8 million common shares.
  Gross spread is 70 cents, selling concession is 40 cents and
reallowance is 10 cents. Delivery (physical with penalty) is scheduled
for Aug. 21.
-0-  8 28 AM EDT 08-14-92}
From: sspencer@tmp_ip_004.trl.OZ.AU (Simon Spencer)
Subject: News Readers for PRIMOS
Reply-To: sspencer@tmp_ip_004.trl.OZ.AU
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:55:08 GMT


As the subject says, (Sorry if this is a very silly question) 
Are there any News readers for Primos, if so where could i get one? 
Is there a public domain (free) version?

Lastly:

Is there an FTP site of Primos (Public Domain) software on the net?

Simon Spencer
Systems
National Information Resource Centre
AOTC Australia.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: A.0013@VCC3.vcc.bc.ca
Subject: re: HP Font downloading
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:07:04 GMT

I will give this a try.
Jim

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Subject: re: HP Font downloading
To:   Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
From: Rolf Kauffeld (Pre-Sales Analyst, CSBU Netherlands)  <ROLF@BLX-S.Prime.COM>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:46:12 +0200
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

Load the font up to the prime with the binary option and spool it to the
printer with the -plot option.


This should do the trick for you always !!

Regards,
Rolf Kauffeld
Prime CSBU  Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: S89406316@HSE.NL (Jac Goudsmit)
Subject: Re: C Bug
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 07:19:14 GMT

>So, a fix is to downgrade to rev21.0.  Does that count?

Rev 20 works OK, too.
So I guess we shouldn't upgrade, or what? :-)

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From: gadget@hsepm1.HSE.NL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: re: unsubscribe
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:52:13 GMT
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

oops i made an error i see now

 unsubscribing goes as follows:
 send a mail containing the following to listserv@blx-a.prime.com
 
 unsub info-prime

 and you are removed from the list.
 
 (next time i should read my mail better and try not to play strippoker and 
 watch tv at the same time.)

 jan verhoeven
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: LEONARD@ukpr.uky.edu
Subject: unsubscribe
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:15:36 GMT

how does one get off this list..i have sent several unsubscribe
requests to  info-prime-request with no response....

maybe several thousand to this list and request would get someones
attention?????

leonard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: A.0013@VCC3.vcc.bc.ca
Subject: HP listserv
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:43:02 GMT

I am currently a Primos site and have been evaluating the HP box that
Prime is also selling for their Unix Platform. Does anyone know of a 
list like info-prime that discusses HP issues?

Jim Chivas 
Vancouver Community College
From: TDB@CBRPN1.Prime.COM (Tony de Bont, Support Analyst - Australia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: HP Font downloading
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:18:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.9208132121.AA24427
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

Jim.

This may NOT be the answer, but you've got nothing to loose.

I believe the 'font' would need to be down loaded in transarent mode.
PrimeWord does this with it's documents.  It needs a binary 001 005 as the
first halfword of the file.  See subroutines Vol IV, SP$REQ.  Page 7-14 in
my copy.

Best of luck.

Tony de Bont
PrimeService, Customer Support, Australia

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To:   Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
From: A.0013@VCC3.vcc.bc.ca
Subject: HP Font downloading
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:51:26 PDT
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

Does anyone know of a way to upload a PC font to the Prime and then
download this prime font file back to spooled HP laser printer.

I have tried using Primelink and the Binary option to upload the
font to the Prime and then tried spool fontfile -no_format
but this did not load correctly.

Jim Chivas
Vancouver Community College
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime