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From: synth@deepthought.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Adults watch cartoons too!!!
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:19:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.00rjnnj
Organization: SynthMuzik Productions Ltd.:  The Danes Call It Quality

agent99@kretin.infoserv.com (Wendy Lee) writes:

[re: DARKWING DUCK's "Twitching Channels"]

>[It] will hold the
>attention of the target audience but there's also lots of stuff a younger
>member of the target audience wouldn't get.  An adult, on the other hand...
>Let's just say, it's one of the best DW shows written.  It pokes fun at show
>business, cartoons in general, the writers (See my .sig, a quote from the
>show), the producers, and even has a howlingly funny reference to another DA
>show at the end that pokes gentle fun at the whole series (Darkwing Duck)
>itself.

Are you kidding?  Warner Bros.' TINY TOON ADVENTURES uses this kind of
irreverency as its bread 'n butter!  Check it out -- you may never go back
to Disney Afternoons again ... :-)


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From: wiles@ultra.Kodak.COM (Dale L. Wiles)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: What's up with Casper.
Summary: Post life puberty???
Keywords: Dead, and so are his parents!
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:37:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY


Does anyone know what's going on with the Casper cartoons in syndication?  The
actual animation is the old stuff from the 50's, but they all have new voices.
All in all, it's a really wierd effect.  I think the new voices suck.  (Not
that I'm a big Casper fan.)  Why would they take the time to redub voices
when the a lot of the cartoons are in public domain?

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From: spc55721@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the PC-Thief)
Subject: Re: TMNT 'toon voices/episode list
Followup-To: rec.arts.animation
Reply-To: spc55721@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the PC-Thief)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Disclaimer: Why?
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:10:18 GMT


It is written in rec.arts.disney and crossposted to alt.fan.furry by
anash@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Dana Uehara c/o Andrew Nash):

>Does anyone have a cast/episode list for the TMNT cartoon series?  I posted a
>similar question to rec.arts.animation some time ago and got a few responses.
>So far I have:
>Raphael:  Rob Paulsen
>Shredder:  Jim Cummings
>Donatello:  either Cam Clarke or Barry Gordon (got two responses for this one)

Donatello is voiced by Barry Gordon.  Someone else also mentioned that
he does the Nestle Quik Bunny.

Cam Clarke is Leonardo.  Compare Leonardo's voice to that of Daring Dan Dawson
on Tale Spin's "Stormy Weather".

>I'm pretty sure that Tress MacNeille is either April or Irma, but I don't know
>which.  As far as the others, I have no idea...

and boyajiyan@ruby.enet.dec.com (the fox so cunning and free) says:
> my attention was caught by what I believed to be Tress MacNeille's voice
> (sounded very close to Babs Bunny), and it was Irma speaking.

I always thought that Jennifer Darling did Irma's voice.  Berkeley (from ABC's
defunct "Capitol Critters") sounded so much like Irma that I assume this
to be correct.

I have no comment regarding Tress doing April.

One addition though: Pete Renaday is the voice of Splinter.


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From: jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu (CHARLES JORDAN)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Could Disney do a human-only animation?
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:08:57 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1475@celia.UUCP> celia!neil@usc.edu (Neil Richmond) writes:
>My main problem with Robin Hood was:
>1) the voices. I mean, really, Pat Butram as the Sheriff of Nottingham. Phil
>Harris as Little John. The problem I had with the voices is that I felt like
>I was in an episode of Gunsmoke. They could have at least faked some kind of
>an English accent. The other problem was that the voice talents totally 
>dominated the characters.
>
Errr, aren't you missing the point?  You can't think that they used Phil
Harris, Pat Butram, and Roger Miller by accident?  Why in the world would
you hire these guys and have them fake an English accent?

I believe the idea behind the film was to emphasize the difference between
the nobility and the peasant class in England.  King John and Sir Hiss (and
even Robin Hood, because he was supposed to be noble) were performed by
English actors, while the other characters were done with heavy southern
accents.  (I guess they figured most Americans would identify sothern accents
as being part of the peasant class.  Bastards.  8-)

So, it was an intentional design concept.  Just like having all the characters
be animals.  Now, I think it's an annoying movie too, but I like the fact
they had the guts to do a totally original interpretation of it instead of just
an animal version of an old story.  (like Jungle Book, in my opinion.)

Chuck

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From: amelman@orion.oac.uci.edu (Neko1)
Subject: Rock-A-Doodle PR Book (Anybody?)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Organization: Dosu Productions
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:42:28 GMT
Distribution: usa



    Does anyone know where I can get the PR booklet (If there is one) for
Don Bluth's Rock-A-Doodle?  I've called a local movie/poster shop here in Los 
Angeles, and they said that Samuel-Goldwyn doesn't put out the PR information
books...just stills.  Can anyone confirm/unconfirm that there was a PR book 
out, and, if so, where I can get one.  I'm writing an article on it for an 
animation club (It's more "Animation on this side of the globe", since the
animation club watches a great deal of Japanese animation), and I need the 
info supposedly in the PR book to finish writing it with.

                                    Thanks.

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From: vgriscep@wam.umd.edu (VGR (Craig Pell))
Subject: Re: What's up with Casper.
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:08:17 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.023526.19167@nic.unh.edu> msr@kepler.unh.edu (Mathew S Reno) writes:
>>
>>Does anyone know what's going on with the Casper cartoons in syndication?  The
>>actual animation is the old stuff from the 50's, but they all have new voices.
>>All in all, it's a really wierd effect.  I think the new voices suck.  (Not
>>that I'm a big Casper fan.)  Why would they take the time to redub voices
>>when the a lot of the cartoons are in public domain?
>
>Also, have you heard the music for it. It's new too and it's terrible. All
>it is is synth music being played by a person who sounds like s/he has only
>taken lessons once, if at all. I just wish they would leave these cartoons
>alone.

Quite right.  The new voices are vile.  The new music is so tinny, 
emotionless and irritating it makes my stomach turn.

I have no idea what's going on.  but since I haven't heard anything at all
from Harvey cartoons in many years, nor seen even one new cartoon from
Harvey in many years, it is logical to assume Harvey cartoons doesn't exist
anymore, and someone else bought up all the Casper and related cartoons.
And judging from the rotten re-dubbing, I'd say it's either (A) Turner, or
(B) an overseas buyer.
    What a sad way for "Herman and Catnip" classics to go....  :-(

    VGR


"Nobody cuts off my nuptials and gets away with it!"  -Bully the Crud

Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.disney
From: orson@bluemoon.rn.com (Craig Smith)
Subject: Re: Robin Hood (was Re: Could Disney do a human-only animation?)
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 00:53:34 EDT

> 
> Any RH bashers out there?

Yes, here's one.  There are a number of problems with it. If one looks
at the real successful Disney stuff, they were all adaptations of actual
known stories, with little changed. Robin Hood changed every character to
an animal. Little John was indistinguishable from Baloo (I hated the 
Jungle Book, too. See below for the reason). The plot was not taken
seriously at all, it was just as hammish an adaptation as Jungle Book.
Lastly, I could not decide if it was supposed to be set in England or
the old west, from the voices. Mr. Hainey as the Sherrif? Give me a break!

 This is from
     orson@bluemoon.rn.com
who doesn't have their own obnoxious signature yet
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From: ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: The Last Unicorn
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 22:05:01 GMT

  I just saw _The Last Unicorn_ for the first time on Friday, and it was
fantastic!  I urge anyone who hasn't seen this movie to go rent it from your
local video store right away.  (Or buy it; I've seen it as grocery stores for
 $7)

   "...Huh?  Wait...I was dead!"
                       -- Prince Lear, _The Last Unicorn_

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From: ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice!!!
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:16:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr6.141650.21130
Reply-To: ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


Regarding the animated TV series:

Embedded in the cartoon episodes of this series are brief snippets
of animation in a completely different style than that of the
regular cartoon. They are used to depict TV broadcasts within the
Netherworld. I find this style very interesting and would like to
know more about it. It is just about impossible for me to describe it --
the best I can do is to say that it is sort of a "collage" effect.

Does this particular style of animation have a name? Can anyone post
more about it? Is it produced in some special or unusual fashion,
different from ordinary drawn cel-by-cel animation?

Thanks!
-- 
Will Martin
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From: smmcafee@mtu.edu (Sean McAfee)
Subject: Re: Dark Water & Dungeons and Dragons
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:56:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.134927.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.201333.17673@ctr.columbia.edu>, smmcafee@mtu.edu (Sean McAfee) writes:
>> What exactly are your complaints?  To me, the series is well-nigh perfect!  I
>> don't think it's much of a stretch to say it's almost as good or even as good
>> as the old Dungeons and Dragons series.

>*cough* *cough* *gag* D&D had pathethic, stereotyped characters, repetitive
>stories (well, not always) and no continuity. I have complaints about Dark
>Water, but it is _far_ superior to D&D.  The only thing D&D did right was a
>fairly good representation of the creatures from the D&D/AD&D game worlds.

Oh, come on.  I'll admit that the first-season episodes were fairly
disconnected, but in the second season it was constantly being hinted that
there was some sort of relationship between Venger and the Dungeon Master.
It wasn't until late in the season--the "Dragon Graveyard" episode--that we
saw that Venger was DM's son.  Also in the second season, four of the six
main characters had romantic relationships (Hank and Eric didn't).  I think
the second-season episodes were as a whole considerably more serious and
foreboding than the first.

Besides the fact that I was just getting involved with D&D when the show
aired, I think the main reason I loved it so much was that it really got my
imagination going.  Hank's energy bow was about the coolest item I had ever
seen on television!  The "Zandora's Box" episode really made me think about
alternate dimensions.

This has gotten me thinking...A while ago I mentioned Dungeons and Dragons on
rec.arts.tv (or was it here?), and somebody else posted a message saying that
there were not only two seasons of the show, as I had thought, but *three*.
This person also claimed to have an episode guide to all three seasons.  If
that person or any other with such a guide is reading this, could you post it
or mail it to me?  Thanks in advance!

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From: joshm@netlink.cts.com (Josh Mercer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: TV This Week (April 11 - 17, 1992)
Date: 14 Apr 92 09:23:03 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

smmcafee@mtu.edu (Sean McAfee) writes:

> In article <y4w6iB1w164w@netlink.cts.com> joshm@netlink.cts.com (Josh Mercer)
> >Just for the record, I think it's a travesty that Dark Water is getting the 
> >axe.  It's probably because the stupid toys didn't sell well enough
> >(sort of like Robotech).  I, too, have LOADS of complaints with the
> >last 8 episodes, but for what it was (that is, the Fox miniseries with
> >Roddy Mcdowal as Niddler), I shall miss it when it's gone.
> 
> What exactly are your complaints?  To me, the series is well-nigh perfect!  I
> don't think it's much of a stretch to say it's almost as good or even as good
> as the old Dungeons and Dragons series.
 
Let's see.  First, the new voice for Niddler. Second, the writing for
Niddler with his new voice.  He was far, far more annoying in the ABC
episodes than in the minisefries.  Thye writing in general became
more simplistic on ABC; things like the baby leviathan for instance.
There was less violence (no one getting dropped in boiling water/mud/
lava/whatever, for instance).  By that, I mean, there wasn't death.  
That's what really impressed me by the Fox run, that people got killed]
(mostly off-camera, but killed nontheless).  The characters had basically
no development in the latter eight episodes, with the exception of
#6, Andoris (sp?) when Tula began to develop her ecomancer powers. 
Most of my complaints can be listed under worse writing.   I'm also 
disappointed that they didn't finish the quest in the 8 new episodes,
since I didn't think it was likely the show would see a second season..

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From: bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: The Littles
Keywords: Littles
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 04:45:40 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.231423.1871@news.Hawaii.Edu> anash@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Dana Uehara c/o Andrew Nash) writes:
>Does anyone out there remember the animated TV series "The Littles"?  It was
>based on some books written by John Peterson and was about a family of small,
>mouselike people.
>
>The series was on for about a couple of seasons on ABC, after which it no
>longer aired.  Does anyone know if it aired anywhere else?  "Enquiring minds
>want to know..." ;-)
>
I think they used to be on The Family Channel.  They might still be; I never
paid much attention to that show, or that channel.

Bill Marcum  bmarcum@world.std.com  
"Quiet, you fool!  How do you know we can trust--THEM!"



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From: ddebry@itchy.dsd.es.com (David DeBry)
Subject: Re: Sick & Twisted Animation Festival?
Reply-To: David DeBry <ddebry@dsd.es.com>
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 01:40:15 GMT

In article <7ViViB2w164w@jab.tucson.az.us>, stevea@jab.tucson.az.us (Steve Albany) writes:
|> pirmann@dumas.rutgers.edu (David Pirmann) writes:
|> 
|> > Has anyone heard of (or seen?) something billed as "The All Sick &
|> > Twisted Festival of Animation" now running at Cinema Village in
|> > Manhattan?  Is it any good?  The drawing on the ad (in this week's
|> > Village Voice) looks vaguely like the fire chief in Ren & Stimpy "Fire
|>  
|>         If you get the chance, go and see it. Its been running here in 
|> Arizona for some time now, both in Phoenix and Tucson. I've seen it with 
|> three different groups of people, and the overwhelming response was 
|> positive.


	It's playing here in Utah right now, as well, and is VERY funny.
I highly recommend it -- if you're a reasonably open minded person.  Prudes
will not enjoy it.

	(In Utah it's playing at a "alternate film" theatre, because no
one else here would carry it.  There's a line in one of the shorts about
checking with the Mormon church to see if your prospective spouse is 
already related to you.  The double meaning of the Mormon's geneology
work vs. their past history of polygamy was even funnier here, and was
applauded fully by the audience.  :)


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From: moakler@remus.rutgers.edu (bam!)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: The Last Unicorn
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:45:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: remus.Apr.13.18.45.05.1992.5803
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Apr12.160501.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:

>   I just saw _The Last Unicorn_ for the first time on Friday, and it was
> fantastic!  I urge anyone who hasn't seen this movie to go rent it from your
> local video store right away.  (Or buy it; I've seen it as grocery stores for
>  $7)
	You know, I like this film a lot, too, but it could have been
a vastly better film, one of the greatest animated films of all time,
possibly. It had EVERYTHING going for it; great voice acting, great
screenplay (very faithful to the book, which is only natural since
Peter Beagle, who wrote the book, wrote the screenplay.), a great
non-Disney style soundtrack done by America (except for the song which
the character sing, which are pretty bad). Unfortunately, Rankin-Bass
decided not to put any money into the actual animation, and it shows.


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>      |     Hey, man, I _like_ Robotech.  So sue me.      |
>      | Sukotto Mira/Scott Miller (ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu) |

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From: sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com (Steven J. Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: _Pirates of Dark Water_ comic book
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:56:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: xylos.SJE.92Apr17155644
Reply-To: sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com
Distribution: rec
Organization: Bull HN, Worldwide Information Systems, Billerica, Mass., USA


	A few months ago, Marvel Comics started a six issue limited
series comic title based on the animated show _Pirates of Dark Water_.
It appears that, unlike the show, the comic book has been renewed and
is now at least a nine issue limited series.  Issue number seven is
now on the stands.  It looks like all new material, but I haven't yet
had time to read it.

	There has been some confusion about the monkeybird's name.  It
has been reported as both Niddler and Middler.  (Perhaps "Nibbler"
would be most appropriate.)  I think it started as Middler but changed
to Niddler after the first five shows were aired.

	Wouldn't it have been nice if PoDW had been made much more
spicy so that it would have only been shown on broadcast TV in late
night spots?  Too bad that we can't count on those chungo lungo
programmers at ABC.

 [The above opinions expressed are my own; not necessarily held by others.]
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From: stevea@jab.tucson.az.us (Steve Albany)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Breaking into the Computer Anim Biz
Date: 11 Apr 92 16:18:36 GMT
Organization: Just Another Bbs. Tucson, AZ


        How many of you are either already in the Biz, or would like to get 
in? I've been doing computer animation for a few years now on my Amiga (I 
have an Amiga & a PC) and have even managed to do the graphics for a 
commerical or two up in Phoenix. But, no one in the biz is interested. I'd 
love to do it full time, and STOP Programming..

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From: bseymour@encore.com (Burch Seymour)
Subject: Golden Age Looney Tunes question
Summary: HELP!!!
Keywords: laser disc
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:07:40 GMT

Has anyone out there bought the Golden Age of Looney Tunes from the
Columbia Laser disc club? They advertise it as a 4 disk set. The one
I've seen in a store is a 5 disc set. The price is the same. If I
buy it from the club, though, I get their Bonus Bucks for future
purchases which makes it sort of worthwhile to get it there, but
I don't want it if it's got less material. Does anyone know what
the scoop there is? 

Also, could someone plese be kind and mail me the list of toones
on the first GAoLT set? I got the posted list of the second set,
but we've had news problems here and if the first list was posted,
I missed it.

Thanks..

-Burch Seymour- bseymour@encore.com
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