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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:34:00 EDT
Reply-To:     Jeremy Whitlock <WHITLOCK@MCMASTER.BITNET>
From:         Jeremy Whitlock <WHITLOCK@MCMASTER.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Industrial based economies Doomed

Jim Love writes:

  > Who are the major industrial users of electricity
  > in Central Canada? And what do they produce?

A list of top electricity customers is confidential information (including
the membership list of AMPCO, the Assoc. of Major Power Consumers of
Ontario), but I can think of several obvious candidates:

  Steel manufacturers in Hamilton, Ont. (Stelco, Dofasco)
  Car manufacturers in Oshawa, Ont. and elsewhere
  Locomotive manufacturer in London, Ont.
  Aluminium processing plant in Kingston, Ont.
  Pulp and paper mills throughout Ontario and Quebec.
  Nickel mining and processing in Sudbury, Ont. (Inco)
  Steam boiler manufacturer in Cambridge, Ont. (Babcock and Wilcox)

Jeremy

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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:16:00 EST
Reply-To:     "TRACY LOGAN, LAFAYETTE COLLEGE,
              EASTON PA" <LOGANT@LAFAYETT.BITNET>
From:         "TRACY LOGAN, LAFAYETTE COLLEGE,
              EASTON PA" <LOGANT@LAFAYETT.BITNET>
Subject:      German Eco-refrigerator saga

Is there any echo in the US of the discussion going on in Germany
about an EcoFridge?  The German Greenpeace announced that an
(east)german firm,  dkk  Scharfenstein,  had developed a
refrigerator that used instead of Freon a mixture of "Butan,
Propan, Cyclopropangas" but was no less energy efficient.

The firm is apparently in the throes of being shut down, like
many others there, as a money-loser, adding to the excitement.

The headline of Greenpeace's press-release was:

                  GREEN-FREEZE: KLIMAFREUNDLICHER KUEHLSCHRANK
                      BRINGT FCKW/FKW-MAFIA INS SCHWITZEN

which is something like:
                  Green-Freeze: Climate-friendly refrigerator
                        makes the FCHC/FHC mafia sweat

-- tracy
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:42:10 PDT
Reply-To:     Bill Arnett <USERARNT@UBCMTSA.BITNET>
From:         Bill Arnett <USERARNT@UBCMTSA.BITNET>
Subject:      re: Follow up to Electricty/Capitalism discussion.

At risk of beating a dead horse, I want to respond to one thing
Jeremy said.

Jeremy Whitlock writes:
> Abundant electricity has not come without its problems, but my point was to
> keep in mind its advantages.  Electrification of industry not only makes
> it more efficient, it also cuts down on the use of polluting fuels that
> were formerly used directly.  This is true in the plastics, paper,
> chemical, steel, automobile, oil, and textile industries.  Another example,
> familiar to most people, is mass transportation.  It would be much dirtier if
> it weren't for the electric motor.

This is of course true, but this "efficiency" and cheapness is a
major cause of the "disposable society" that we have
created/inherited.  Unrealistically cheap fuels (not just electricity)
have enabled industries to manufacture new products cheaper than
they can repair defective ones.  Why? Because electricity is
practically free compared with labour costs.  Increasing the cost
of these fuels (not just electricity) will increase the efficiency
of the industries in other areas which weren't cost effective
before (e.g., repairing and recycling their products).

On the positive side: BC Hydro (who supply all the electricity
in BC) has adopted a new rate structure whereby all electricity
will be charged at the same rate.  (Currently, high-use customers
get a hefty discount.)

Cheers.  Bill.

PS: "The Computer Paper" (a local publication) recently ran an
an article on enviro-friendly(-er) computing.  Included is a quote
from Quantum (hard disk manufacturer) stating clearly that leaving
your computer running continuously is NOT advantageous.  Turning
it off and on repeatedly (normal use) will NOT shorten the life
of your hard disk.  The article suggests that you should turn
off the power if the machine will be idle more than an hour.
The article also says that computer equipment accounts for more
than half of the power used by most companies.

I've been meaning to post some excerpts of the article, but I
haven't yet found the time.
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Reply-To:     "Dr. Stephen Boyan" <boyan@UMBC3.UMBC.EDU>
From:         "Dr. Stephen Boyan" <boyan@UMBC3.UMBC.EDU>
Subject:      North Amer. Free Trade Agreement
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I would very much like to read the articles in your Journal of Environmental
Law and Litigation symposium on environmental regulation, which you've
been writing about on the network.

Actually, I've been enjoying all of your comments on the network.  I
myself put out this year a revised edition of Ophuls' Ecology and the
Politics of Scarcity, which argues that our government, and western
governments generally, as presently organized, CANNOT adeqately cope
with environmental problems--that at best, governments will undertake
piecemeal actions which are too little, too late.  So far as I can
tell, most environmental regulation to date only confirms that model;
I am interested in what your authors have concluded about the areas
they've examined.

--Steve Boyan
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:53:00 MST
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From:         JALOVE@ADMN.SAIT.AB.CA
Subject:      CDN NEWS: Good Bye from Jim Love
X-To:         biosph-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu

I am leaving due to a job change and the new place does not have network
access therefore I will no longer be able to send CDN NEWS items.

I would like to thank all people who appreciated my contributions
to BIOSPH-L.  I know many of you found my short eco-blurbs enjoyable.
I was glad to be able to let you know about what is happening in my
part of the world.

I'd like to thank my fellow BIOSPH-L participants for providing me with
information as well.  I'd also like to extend a complement to the BIOSPH-L
community for maintaining a high level of civility.  Debaters on listservs
can get flamish at times (Myself included as some have found out).

I hope someone else does the CDN NEWS in my absence, I think that it
is valuable to get a snapshot view on what is happening in Canada.  I'm
sure there is a lot going around in other parts of the world that we all
would love to know about.

I'm likely going to be back on BIOSPH-L when I figure out how to.  I hope
that I am wrong about my new employ not having internet access.  If I am
I'll be back before Christmas, if not I'm sure I'll find a way.

Jim Love, Calgary CDN
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 09:45:55 EDT
Reply-To:     Pamela Rose <HSLMELA@UBVM.BITNET>
From:         Pamela Rose <HSLMELA@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      More info on previous posting

Early in August, someone posted a discourse on Fluorescent lamps being a
hazardous waste concern.  It may have been on another list, I have lost
the entire header.  However, the text was taken from a Florida bulletin
board, and referred to a publication entitled "Household Hazardous Waste
Management News" specifically the Feb. 1992 issue.  I have been unable to
locate this publication, and need an article from the Feb. issue.  Does
anyone have any relevant information?

Thanks!

Pamela Rose/SUNY at Buffalo Health Sciences Library
126 Abbott Hall/Buffalo 14214-3002/hslmela@ubvm.bitnet
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:43:33 PDT
Reply-To:     Dan Yurman <dyurman@IGC.APC.ORG>
From:         Dan Yurman <dyurman@IGC.APC.ORG>
Subject:      BLM #2 Step Down?

Can anyone provide information the the number two man at the Bureau
of Land Management / Dept. of Interior, was required to step down
last week?  What is his name and why did he step down?

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From: goldsman@cc.gatech.edu (Michael G. Goldsman)
Subject: Wolf Filmed in Yellowstone!!
Reply-To: goldsman@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology, College of Computing
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 15:34:26 GMT


Well it looks like my prediction last week that wolves would
naturally migrate back to Yellowstone in 5 years was off by
4 years 51 weeks. 


Last night on  Headline News they showed a film that someone had made
of a wolf, coyote, and grizzly all feeding off a carcass.

Though it hasn't yet been confirmed that it was actually a wolf, it damn 
sure looked like one...   It was much bigger than the coyote and it was
black.


I'll look in the papers today to see if there's any more information.


So I say, to Hell with the reintroduction plan!!



-Mike
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 07:45:04 EDT
Reply-To:     Dave Phillips <davep@ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU>
From:         Dave Phillips <davep@ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU>
Subject:      Quantum disk drives
X-To:         biosph-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu

Regarding Bill's recent mention of a statement by disk drive
mfr. Quantum concerning leaving pc's on...I find the statement
hysterically funny, considering Quantum drives on both Macs and
Suns have had the near-unique problem of failing after cooling
down for any length of time.  This prob. has been observed
on the older Sun Sparcstation 105MB internal drives and on
some macintosh drives, both by quantum. Perhaps they have a new
director of engineering/design?
-dave phillips
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Reply-To:     John Martinson <marty@EQUINOX.UNR.EDU>
From:         John Martinson <marty@EQUINOX.UNR.EDU>
Subject:      Games or simulations played on the surface of globes

Would like to know if anyone knows about games or simulations played in 3D on
the surface of globes. Might require magnetic pieces and some kind of ferrous
surface. There is a children's game called COLORFORMS in which animal or other
shapes are placed on a slick vinyl-type surface and stick there until peeled
off. They can be put down and removed endlessly but no adhesive is required.
Perhaps there's something like that somewhere that's done the same thing with
a globe with a slick vinyl surface. Any suggestions?
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:13:00 EST
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              EASTON PA" <LOGANT@LAFAYETT.BITNET>
From:         "TRACY LOGAN, LAFAYETTE COLLEGE,
              EASTON PA" <LOGANT@LAFAYETT.BITNET>
Subject:      Re German Eco-fridge: More details (gossip?)

More tidbits about the "Eco-fridge," drawn from the newsgroup
de.soc.umwelt (loosely translated):

>  I want to buy one.
Easy there -- as far as I can tell, it isn't even being produced
yet.

==

Apropos ordering one: as of two weeks ago, 40,000 requests had
been sent to Greenpeace [German branch].  I hope the figure
rises, since the Treuhand [agency overseeing the
dismantling/privatising of East German businesses] is in process
of trying to establish that the appliance has no chance of making
it on the market.

==

The refrigerator will soon be available from Neckermann [mail
order operation, like Mongomery Wards].  The board of directors decided to
offer this environmentally friendly appliance.

==

Production is to begin in six months.  If you order one now,
you'll get one (assuming the firm survives).  If you have to wait
over a year, you are not bound to accept delivery.

- tracy
PS: recent discussion on sci.environment, the US counterpart,
sort of, of de.soc.umwelt, mentioned CFC-free refrigerants, but
nothing about the German situation (last I looked).
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 22:20:38 PDT
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From:         Dan Yurman <dyurman@IGC.APC.ORG>
Subject: Re: Wolf Filmed in Yellowstone!!
X-To:         goldsman@cc.gatech.edu

It has NOT been confirmed that it was a wolf.

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 10:52:00 CST
Reply-To:     Diane Sudduth <SUDDUTHDJ@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>
From:         Diane Sudduth <SUDDUTHDJ@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>
Subject:      Biosphere II
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I've been wondering how the Biosphere II experiment is going.  Does
anyone know of any publications with regular articles about the
experiment?  Buzzworm magazine has a one page article every issue but
that is the only source I know of for information.  I'm not a
scientist, just curious.

Diane Sudduth
<sudduthd@sluvca.slu.edu>
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 09:42:30 BSC
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      I'm Vet and University Professor and I need laboratory addresses
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 10:11:00 CST
Reply-To:     Diane Sudduth <SUDDUTHDJ@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>
From:         Diane Sudduth <SUDDUTHDJ@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Biosphere II
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>If one has access via internet to usenet newgroups, the group
>sci.systems.sci often carries postings about Biosphere II, some posted
>by project members themselves.  I've recently seen several such postings.

Unfortunately we don't have access to usenet here.  Anyone care to
forward some of the more interesting posts to me?

The Public Library does carry the Village Voice and has a good index
for it so I'll be sure to check out the Marc Cooper articles.

Thanks for all your help.  Any other suggestions?

Diane Sudduth
sudduthd@sluvca.slu.edu
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 10:43:13 -0700
Reply-To:     "Frank C. Haulgren" <haulgren@HENSON.CC.WWU.EDU>
From:         "Frank C. Haulgren" <haulgren@HENSON.CC.WWU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Biosphere II
X-To:         Diane Sudduth <SUDDUTHDJ@sluvca.slu.edu>
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On Thu, 20 Aug 1992, Diane Sudduth wrote:

> I've been wondering how the Biosphere II experiment is going.  Does
> anyone know of any publications with regular articles about the
> experiment?  Buzzworm magazine has a one page article every issue but
> that is the only source I know of for information.  I'm not a
> scientist, just curious.
>
> Diane Sudduth
> <sudduthd@sluvca.slu.edu>

Diane,
If you have not already read Marc Coopers two excellent articles which ran
in the Village Voice within the last year or so you REALLY should.  He
goes into great detail challenging the whole idea that this project in any
way represents legitimate science.  If you are interested let me know and
I can dig through my files and find the exact dates these pieces appeared.

Not to be missed!

Frank Haulgren
haulgren@henson.cc.wwu.edu
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 09:37:00 EST
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              EASTON PA" <LOGANT@LAFAYETT.BITNET>
From:         "TRACY LOGAN, LAFAYETTE COLLEGE,
              EASTON PA" <LOGANT@LAFAYETT.BITNET>
Subject:      Need source for 100% recycled, no Cl-bleach, duplicator paper

Usually the problem is convincing people to use 100% recycled,
no Cl-bleach paper for laserprinted memos and duplicated flyers --
it isn't "whiter than white," "appropriate," and so on.

I have the opposite problem.  We've been using such paper for
over a year, and our standard memo even carries a notice to that
effect. But our original supply (we had to order a lot) is
running low, and we haven't found a new one.  My task is to find
a supplier.

The paper we're using is Recyconomic (50% post-consumer, 50%
unsold newspapers and magazines).  Made by Steinbeis Paper GMBH,
that is, a German firm.  Price FOB somewhere was under $4/ream, I
believe.

I'd appreciate some leads and advice.   -- tracy
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:35:50 EDT
Reply-To:     HMAPCK1 <HMAPCK1@MARISTA.BITNET>
From:         HMAPCK1 <HMAPCK1@MARISTA.BITNET>

Please send me information about your network.

Thank you.

Connie Kustas
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:13:26 -0400
Reply-To:     "Dr. Stephen Boyan" <boyan@UMBC4.UMBC.EDU>
From:         "Dr. Stephen Boyan" <boyan@UMBC4.UMBC.EDU>
Subject:      --CO2 Emissions Trading?
X-To:         tgray@igc.apc.org
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I would like a free subscription to the Wind Energy Weekly.  I am
Associate Professor of Political Science at the University of Maryland
Baltimore County and the co-author, with William Ophuls, of ECOLOGY
AND THE POLITICS OF SCARCITY, REVISITED (New York: W. H. Freeman &
Co., 1992).  The information in the publication on energy matters
interests me, as I write on environmental ethics and policy issues.
Thanks.

--A. Stephen Boyan, Jr.
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:13:18 CDT
From:         Galen Tillery <RGTILLER@SAMFORD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ?-"QUERY LIMITS"
              13 Aug 1992 15:07:30 EST from <IPWP400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU>

On Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:07:30 EST Phillip Paxton / IT said:
>... when we "QUERY LIMITS ALL" from an administrative account,
>we only see the first eighty-five records.

Phillip,

Once I had a corrupted filepool and could not get the QUERY LIMITS ALL
command to return anything more than a few lines.

I ended up building a new filepool and copying everything from the
bad pool to the new one (I found the bad files during the copy and
left them where they were).

Are you on VM/ESA?  If so, there is a verify tool to check the validity
of your pool which could be most helpful.

If not, there is an unsupported version for HPO6 or SP6 that you might
get the Support Center to give you.

Hope this helps. Galen.

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 08:19:41 EDT
From:         Scott Nettleship <NETTLE@GDLVM7.VNET.IBM.COM>
Subject:      QUERY LIMITS ALL
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>IBM is scratching their heads as are we:
>
>We have approximately 2'100 users enrolled to SFS (MAXUSERS=3'000)
>and when we "QUERY LIMITS ALL" from an administrative account,
>we only see the first eighty-five records.
>
>If we query each user (i.e. QUERY LIMITS FOR <user>) we are able
>to retrieve the information.
>
>Any ideas?

Check apar VM51310 and see if it addresses your problem.

Scott Nettleship
Internet: NETTLE@GDLVM7.VNET.IBM.COM
IBMMAIL:  USIB2WF7 at IBMMAIL
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 08:25:02 MST
From:         "David B. Weintraub" <WEINTRAU@ARIZVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ?: Kermit
              20 Aug 1992 20:15:11 EDT from <LENBOYLE@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>

Can you give me the internet address for Columbia for accessing Kermit files.
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