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From: lamorte@netcom.com (R. Scott LaMorte)
Subject: Re: Roads from SanJose to Yosemite?
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 00:30:03 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba


Well, the pass over the hills from San Jose I have been on. They ride
up to Mt. Hamilton is quite pleasant, with beautiful views. After the
observatory, a lot of the roads are very very twisted, and a few years
ago were not in the best of shape. Further down there are some night
straight-aways, and I remember topping 90 or 100 through there. Some
farms and stuff. There is also a little bar way the hell up there, I
don't recall the name, kinda funky little place to stop for a break.

I'd rate the ride as a C or B-. YMMV...
From: leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Looking for non-anal-retentive moto examiner
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:08:32 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <1992Sep3.005911.1340@crc.ricoh.com> wolff@crc.ricoh.com (Gregory J. Wolff) writes:
>So, I would encourage all new riders (even if you did manage to 
>pass the test) to take a MSF (Motorcycle Safety Foundation) course.
>
>Would you ride on the back with someone who can't pass a simple driving
>skills test?
>

See, that was the annoying part!  I *DID* take the MSF course, and did
well, and rode for several months before I took the DMV road test,
but somehow an old test-taking bug that I thought I'd gotten rid of
long since reared up and bit me again.  As soon as he told me I hadn't
done that first circle correctly, I was all nerves.  On the other hand,
I've been in a number of potential accident situations, which I've
avoided just fine, thank you, and have ridden without any kind of an
accident at speed.  A test of whether or not you can ride in a parking
lot (which is the only place I can think of where slow, tight turns are
applicable) is not what I'd call a reasonable test of driving skills.

	- Leigh Ann


Leigh Ann Hussey  leighann@sybase.com  DoD#5913  AMA#624549  AWRRA#23 (skidoo!)
'74 Honda CB360 "Fyrdraka"   '81 Yamaha Maxim650 "Elhaz"
"And they ride, and they ride/ And the White Hounds run beside/ And they'll
seize the night and shake it by the throat."
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From: andersen@me.udel.edu (Stephen Andersen)
Subject: Re: Valve Adjustment Advice
Organization: Department of Mechanical Engineering/University of Delaware
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 03:47:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.051121.16255@tcsi.com> gwu@nujoizey.tcs.com (George Wu) writes:
>     Anyways, the manual says rotate the adjuster into place with a
>screwdriver.  That's it.  I figure it's got to go between the cam and
>the tappet, but without touching the shim that covers 99.9% of the
>tappet's upper surface.  I just can't seem to get it into place.  Is
>anyone familiar with adjusting the valves on this motor, with or without
>the bloody SST?

I did the valves once on my SRX without the tool, however I had to 
remove the cams to get the shims out, not fun :-(

The tool should fit between the two tappets on either side.
There is a gap between the tappets, the tool will sort of
rest in between and then when you rotate it it will depress 
BOTH tappets at once (at least that's what it shows in the 
shop manual) and allow you to remove the shims. 

>     I'd really like to get this done, as I couldn't find *any* measurable
>play, ie. my smallest 0.02 mm feeler gauge wouldn't fit in there.  A
>friend tells me this means the valve seats have worn down and eventually
>enough exhaust will blow past to overheat the valves and burn one.  Thanks
>much in advance.

This sounds BAD, are you positive that the piston was at TDC on the 
compression stroke when you did this?  How many miles since the 
valves were adjusted last?

Steve


-- 
 Steve Andersen  DoD #0239                               andersen@me.udel.edu
 (302) 324-0888                                     andersen@zr1.ccm.udel.edu
 1992 Ducati 907 I.E.                                      1987 Yamaha SRX250
 "Life is simply a consequence of the complexities of carbon chemistry..."
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From: robert@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Robert Kennedy)
Subject: Re: spartan motorcycling (was Re: I want...
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date:  9 Sep 92 04:56:10 GMT

jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>You obviously didn't position the towel correctly, mine stayed in
>place the entire time.  Or perhaps the BMW seat is of a superior
>design...

No towels fell off *MY* motorcycle. But I saw one in the street. I
think it fell off a BMW, actually...

	-- Robert
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From: lamorte@netcom.com (R. Scott LaMorte)
Subject: Re: I want...
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 07:01:14 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes:

>I'd look at Moto Guzzis.  If you're ambitious enough to take care
>of an older bike, check out 850 Nortons and bevel-drive Ducatis.
>Some of these bikes might show up a little far over on the
>"cool" side, though....  maybe a Triumph with the "La Honda TT"
>modifications that were popular in the '70s: bobbed fenders,
>...
>
>    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
>    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@forel.stanford.edu

Hmm, this is much more in line to what I am thinking! Somehow I feel
that Moto Guzzis and Ducatis are waaaay outta my pricce range. If I
can't get it in decent shapwe at $2k, it's too much. Im Italian, and
having an Italian bike would be a dream. What do you think the pricce
range is going to be on a 850 Norton or Triumph with those mods?

Another thought: Black BMW boxer twin with side car... (sigh) I've
seen one around the South Bay. It seems that somewhere in China there
is a factory still tooled to the pre-war specs, 'cause this guy said
it was only a few years old and it had all chinese characters on the
insrtument panel.
From: danac@morc.asd.sgi.com (Dana Crom)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cycle City (Was: Re: where to go for honda service)
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:32:28 GMT
Followup-To: ba.motorcycles
Distribution: ba
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Sep9.062304.2802@morrow.stanford.edu> karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes:
>I'll be interested to hear what experiences people have with
>the new regime there.  Brian seems to be sincerely interested
>in cleaning up the operation.

I just bought a bike from them last week.  They gave me a reasonable (not
great, but reasonable) price on a good used bike.  My negotiating skills
are not the greatest, but Brian willingly went down $70 from an already
good price (asking about the same as private-party ads for the same bike in
the papers), threw in a Haynes manual, and agreed to replace a cracked but
servicable taillight cover.  The bike had been thoroughly gone over, had
new oil, brakes, and tires, and he gave me his standard 30-day warranty
(one of the reasons I went to him - Emory's policy was "all bikes as-is").
I went to Cycle City in the first place because a couple of my friends have
dealt with him and had good luck.

Brian, Paul, and Mike treated me fairly, and let me take the time to make my
own decisions without a lot of pressure.  I haven't used their service
department yet, but they seem to have a *lot* of bikes in for service - I
suspect that service and used parts are their two biggest moneymakers.  I'm
not saying they are the perfect shop, but until and unless they prove me
wrong, they are going to get my business.  Note - I am *not* this way about
most dealers - there are a few in the area who I would *never* willing deal
with.

Just another satisfied customer.
-- 
-----------------------+------------------------+------------------------------
Dana Crom    DoD #0679 | Silicon Graphics, Inc. |  Smile - let them *WONDER* 
danac@morc.asd.sgi.com | (415) 390-1449         |  what you've been up to . . .
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From: dhawk@well.sf.ca.us (David Hawkins)
Subject: Saw a Wreck Friday
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: ba
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 02:59:32 GMT

Friday I was driving along in my car (don't have plates on the cycle
yet.)  I went east on Hwy 24 to Walnut Creek and then went north on
I-680.  It was rush hour, stop and go traffic.  Cycles white-line
through there all the time.  

I was in the far right lane of three, and noticed a cycle riding the
white line betweeen the two left lanes.  Suddenly it cut across the
far left lane -- heading for the edge of the pavement I guess.  But
that lane was stopped and the cycle went at full speed into the back
end of a car.  (Possibly a Mercedes.)  The cycle hit and fell down and
the rider went flying through the air.  He (? - sex unknown, actually)
hit the center divide, immediately got up and tried to right the
cycle.

My lane started moving - there is no shoulder, since it's all under
construction, so I couldn't pull over.  So that's all I saw.  But it
was so weird because I couldn't see how you could ride at full speed
into the back of a car.

later, david
--
David Hawkins  -- dhawk@well.sf.ca.us -- dhawk@netcom.com  - Dod#1113
"Expect the Unexpected.  He does."  [Buckaroo Banzai novel quote]
From: laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I want...
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:21:10 GMT
Organization: DFWM, Inc

In article <cxrn+cj.lamorte@netcom.com>, lamorte@netcom.com (R. Scott LaMorte) writes:
> 
> Oh, yeah, and intimacy! I wanna be able, for one thing, to work on her
> myself. I dont wanna have to remove 20 screws and six body parts to
> adjust one carb. I want a simple internal combustion engine, not
> something that looks like it was developed at Ford Areospace.  ;^)

dear boy, you want an R100GS.  the offspring of form and function,
the mother of elegance.  beauty and the beast in one.
 
-- laurie
____________________________________________________________________
"Never underestimate the ability of a man to underestimate the abil-
ity of a woman."                                   --V.I. Warshawski

laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us                                   DoD #0023
From: batman@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (The Reverend Doctor Karl Elvis MacRae)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: where to go for yamaha service
Date: 15 Sep 1992 21:39:00 GMT
Organization: Tattooed Love Boys
Reply-To: batman@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (The Reverend Doctor Karl Elvis MacRae)
NNTP-Posting-Host: batcave.ebay.sun.com

In article <cztn6-d.edg@netcom.com> edg@netcom.com (Ed Greenberg) writes:
>>
>Morris Jones (mojo@caere.com) posted recently that Motors West was sold,
>and that Charlie, the service manager of Motors West was gone.  I called
>Grand Prix, who used to be associated with Motors West and asked, and
>they told me that Charlie is now at Yamaha Country. 
>
>Charlie has been working on my bike for the past few years, and I've had
>no complaints with his operation.  I'm going to give Yamaha Country a
>try on that basis. 


	I also bought my FJ1200 from Charlie, and it was in really
	great shape when I bought it.

	
	Of course, he forgot to tell me there was an alarm on it,
	which made for quite a surprise the first time I set it
	accidently!


		-Karl

	 
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From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: NoCal Mandatory Helmet Law Protest
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:36:04 PDT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Disorganized Organization


just in case some of you are not reading rec.motorcycles:

In article <1992Sep15.191904.18800@ttinews.tti.com>, paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein) writes:
> Brought to you by ABATE Local 18.
> 
> Sunday, 9/20, meet 10A @ Morty's (1024 Kearney @ Broadway, SF) for
> Breakfast.  MC Cavalcade Lvs @ noon for the Civic Center.  Rally
> @ Civic Center from 1-5PM/  Speakers, Live Music, Vendors.  
> Scooters & bicycles also welcome.
> 
> further info: 415/731-5924
-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
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From: eajjs@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (john.sottile)
Subject: Re: Roads from SanJose to Yosemite?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:35:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.200320.14662@nas.nasa.gov> browning@willard.nas.nasa.gov writes:
>[Sorry to those for whom 'ba' distribution does no good.]
>
>Thanks yall for the tips on locking leathers etc. to the bike while
>motorcycle camping in Yosemite.  Assuming I can get all the camping
>gear on the bike, what's the best ride from the San Jose area to
>Yosemite?  I'm looking at my Thomas Bros. California Road Atlas, and I
>see a twisty mtn. road that goes from E. San Jose to I-5 near
>Patterson over Mt. Hamilton & Mt. Isabel.  It's Hwy 130: Mt. Hamilton
>Rd.  -> San Antonio Valley Rd. -> Del Puerto Canyon Rd.  Is it worth
>it?  The alternative is to head north and take 580 over.


The road in San Jose through Mt Hamilton is O.K.  It is very tight
and windy fro the first 17 miles (Until you get Past
Lick Obs.).  After that, it widens a bit.  It is a long drive and
I wouldn't recommend ripping through there on a big bike
(I ride my Gold Wing through there and find that I am forever
scraping pegs).  As you get closer to I5, the road gets a bit "easier"
 -- that is, it widens still more, has curves that you can enjoy at higher
speeds, and has things to look at.

You have to watch for the locals on that road.  They know the
road better than you can imagine and they CAN catch up to you  :-)


=============================
John Sottile                             "That Guy has to Oil his Brakes!"
AT&T Bell Labs                           #include <std/disclaimer/who-me?.h>
jjs@cblph.att.com
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From: mvij@ocf.berkeley.edu (Pendragon)
Newsgroups: ucb.wanted,ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Hein Gericke jacket and Shoei helmet for sale
Date: 8 Sep 1992 09:43:24 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: monsoon.berkeley.edu




By the way, re: the previous msg (I'm selling a HG V-Pilot and a Shoei
Blaze helmet), please call (510) 649-0987.  Email is fine too at
mvij@ocf.berkeley.edu.
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From: phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Phil Stone)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Parking on the sidewalk?
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:24:16 GMT
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.

In article <1992Sep8.224241.8694@tcsi.com> gwu@nujoizey.tcs.com (George Wu) writes:
>In article <l2qnrqd.dmatejka@netcom.com>, dmatejka@netcom.com (Daniel Matejka) writes:
>> 
>> Basically, you're left with parking like a car.
>
>     And that is the solution, of course.  If every motorcycle started
>taking up a whole space, especially where parking is at a premium, (in
>the city, in Berkeley, at BART stations, etc.) we'd have cagers coming
>out of the woodwork screaming for more motorcycle parking.

Well, as Bob mentioned, there is an uneasy truce between sidewalk parkers
and the forces of evil^H^H^H^Hrevenue collection in San Francisco.  As
long as they continue to *generally* tolerate sidewalk parking, I won't
be obnoxious and use up entire car parking spaces.

However, if the most recent budget crunch causes them to see us as a
new target of opportunity, I think an organized campaign of car-slot
hogging is in order, much like Axel Fisher described in Berlin.

Let's wait and see on this one.  Report in with any new data on tickets
received (in San Francisco, or other cities) *where you used to never
be ticketed before.*  (Read that qualification again - let's not list
every damn parking ticket, let's just try to spot a trend, if one occurs).


 Phil Stone         (phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov | ...ames!eos!phil)
 '83 R80ST               DoD #95              "Motorcycles OK"
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From: zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu (Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest)
Subject: Re: I want...
Organization: Stanford Center for Space Science and Astrophysics
	<1992Sep8.224240.21227@adobe.com>
Date: 8 Sep 92 10:03:32

In article <1992Sep8.202835.14170@leland.Stanford.EDU> Benjamin Sloss writes:
   May I suggest you look into a used Virago or Vulcan.  Both offer
   good performance, reliability, looks (cruiser-style), and won't
   drain your wallet like the Sportster.  On the other hand, neither
   of them are Harleys...

Or a Honda Magna.  While they look a little less like a Harley than does a Vulcan
(and they're water cooled), they have a smoother ride and more power for the cc.
My 750 will do more than 130 mph (though I won't =:-O )  They also look ... well ...
evil.  Good cruiser lines.  Mine's been pretty reliable, too.  They come in two 
flavors, 700/750 (depending on year) and 1100.  The engine is a 90-degree V-4, so the
ride is nice and smooth at highway speeds.

For a while, I had a chrome Kerker 4->1 exhaust on mine, that made a most satisfying
rumble, till I tired of wearing earplugs and finally figured out why everyone knew
I was coming...

Oh yeah -- the magna *is* kind of a mess to work on:  to tune the engine, you have to
take off the radiator (to get to the front valves).  Fortunately, (a) they're 
setscrews (yow!) rather than shims (ick.), and (b) you don't have to do it too often.
Most of the other stuff is pretty easy to get to, though.
--
Craig DeForest -- astrophysicist for hire: zowie@banneker.stanford.edu / (415)723-3216

... and then the cops told me never to be seen riding my motorcycle in the stadium again!
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: markk@tcsi.tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Subject: Re: Anyone interested in going to the AFM races this Sunday?
Originator: markk@sparcplug
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:29:41 GMT


ilsa@netcom.com (Ilsa VanHook) writes:
>It's a fun thing to do; keep an eye out for DoD-types like Pete Ecclesine, on
>an RZ350 with AFM #83 and Jim Brewer, FZR400, AFM #121.  Dwayne Chung, AFM
>#3, is not a Denizen, but is out there on the net...

And me in my second race on my white and red FZR400 #972.  If you see
my bike in the pits stop by and say Howdy!

- )V(ark)<
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From: dmatejka@netcom.com (Daniel Matejka)
Subject: Re: Parking on the sidewalk?
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 20:57:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services

>I've seen a few bikes parked on the sidewalks here too. I know that
>parking on the street I need to put the back tire against the curb,
>but are there any guide lines about sidewalks? Seems a good idea if
>there's room....
>
>---
>Curt Howland        DoD#0663      '82 V45 Sabre
>            howland@nsipo.nasa.gov 
>  If any of these words are caught or killed,
>NASA will disavow any knowlege of my existence.

  Silly me, I called the Parking Patrol and asked.  The Parking Pests
are especially after your money around the financial district.  I've
seen bikes ticketed for parking (in the street with the back wheel
against the curb) between two cars, each of which was at a legitimate
spot with a meter, and with plenty of room for the bike, assuming
of course the cars' drivers don't need a white cane to get out of a
parallel parking spot.
  Anyway, the [nice] lady on the phone told me that in the City,
at least, parking on the sidewalk was strictly illegal.  You must
park in the street, with a wheel or fender against the curb.  Apparently
parking between cars is also a ticketable offense.  Basically, you're
left with parking like a car.
  Remember, the City is having a fiscal crisis right now...
  Hey, any professional lobbyists out there?  Can we _do_ something
about this?
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From: Judith Burgess <burgess@csl.sri.com> 
Subject: CSL Seminar Reminder 
Reply-To: Judith Burgess <burgess@csl.sri.com> 
Organization: Gated to News by csl.sri.com
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:06:32 GMT

Frank Pfenning, Carnegie Mellon University
"The Proof of the Church-Rosser Theorem in a 
  Logical Framework."
SRI International Bldg. E, Room EJ 228
4:00 Sept. 9, 1992

D.N. Hoover, ORA Corp., Ithaca
"Formal Verification of Numerical Programs
  with Penelope."
SRI International Bldg. E., Room EJ 228
10:30 am Sept. 11

Reminder for foreign nationals: If you are a
citizen of a designated country you must contact
Judith Burgess (415) 859-5924 at least two days
before the seminar.
From: Roy_W_Latham@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: ba.seminars
Subject: Macintosh Programming Seminar
Date: Fri,  4 Sep 92 17:32:48 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba


			Maintosh Programming Seminar

Mac Programming Seminars will be held on Fri/Sat 9:00-12:00. The first
two classes are scheduled on Sep. 11/12 in Mountain View. In three hours,
learn how to use Resource Editor, Think C, and Mac Windowing tools. 
 Cost is a very affordable $79, Visa or MasterCard.
Call CGSD Corp. at (415)903-4920 to register. Please do not respond via
electronic mail because it may not be read frequently enough.
From: acm@btr.btr.com (SF Bay Area ACM  acm@btr.com)
Newsgroups: ba.seminars
Subject: ACM 9/10/92 Meet Obj.Oriented Analysis + Recursive Design
Date: 6 Sep 92 22:52:26 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM



San Francisco Bay Area ACM Chapter Meeting   Thursday, September 10, 1992
"Overview to Object-Oriented Analysis and Recursive Design" Michael M. Lee
The  Golden Wok
5:30 p.m..Council Meeting      6:30 p.m..No-host Cocktails
7:00 p.m..Dinner..          .  8:00 p.m.Speaker*
*  You are welcome to come after dinner.just to hear the speaker.......
but PLEASE call the reservation number. We need to be sure we have ample room.

Abstract
This talk will present the basic concepts and modeling techniques of the
Shlaer-Mellor approach to object-oriented analysis (OOA) and recursive design. 
The analysis of a simple control system will be used to demonstrate these
techniques. Consideration will also be given to applying this analysis approach
to life-sized projects.  A brief profile of project experiences will be given to
offer some insights into the practical application of these techniques.
Biography
Michael M. Lee is a senior consultant at Project Technology, Inc., where he
specializes in software engineering project management for clients employing
Object-Oriented Analysis and Recursive Design.  Over the last 21 years, Michael
has led the development of a broad variety of real-time systems, including
systems for control of rolling mills, automated warehouses, material handling,
automated manufacturing, medical imaging, and computer peripherals.  His
extensive experience in using modern software development methods on these
projects has resulted in a set of practical techniques for ensuring project
success.
Dinner
Dinner will be a Chinese banquet. Cost, for members and guests with
reservations, is $16 per person. For all others, the cost is $18. Wine will be
served with dinner.

Please call (408) 277-0480 for last minute information and to make your
reservations. Users of e-mail (Unix Internet) will find this meeting announced
under the heading ba.seminars. They can send reservations and other information
to the Chapter at acm@btr.com.

Deadline for reservations is Wednesday, September 9th. Reservations can be
canceled before noon on the 10th.

Directions
>From 101, take the Moffet  exit heading southwest. The road becomes Castro
Street. After Central Expressway, take the second right, which is Villa.  The
restaurant is two blocks down on Villa, on the left.


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