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From: arth@sudshead.EBay.Sun.COM (Sudshead)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Smelt runs in California
Date: 5 Jan 1993 17:20:07 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: arth@sudshead.EBay.Sun.COM
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Can someone give me an idea when the smelt runs happen in California preferably
the around San Francisco.

Thanks

art
From: macph@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: uk trout
Date: 4 Jan 93 11:07:04 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <725912077snx@lazy.demon.co.uk>, andrewb@lazy.demon.co.uk (Andrew Brown) writes:
> In article <1hqsmcINN82m@golem.wcc.govt.nz> kenealy_d@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
> | Can anyone tell me if one can flyfish in the uk WITHOUT spending thousands of
> | pounds? 
> | I hear that a licence is around 5000 pounds ie it's a sport for the rich only.
> | I'm not rich but I will be in England for a year.
> | 
> 
> There is masses of still-water trout fishing available all over the UK at
reasonable prices - from 8 to 40+ pounds per day.  All the waters are stocked
and the price reflects the size and numbers stocked - some waters stock with a
minimum of 3-4lb fish.  I disagree strongly that it is all chuck and chance
with lures - OK you don't often cast to individual fish although some of the
most successful anglers do go after and stalk large fish - usually taking them
with a nymph cast in their path, but much of the fishing is with imitative
flies.  Probably the most successful are chironomid imitations - known as
buzzers, fished in sizes to match the natural, followed by more general nymph
imitations such as hare's ears and pheasant tails.  Dry fly is also popular at
times.  Many anglers do scoop/spoon their fish and there is enormous interest
in imitative fly tying.  There are at least three magazines devoted to trout
fishing. 
Competetive flyfishing is also very ppopular and there national and
international competitions although this is not my scene.  
If anyone would like more information please get in touch.

Gordon MacPherson
Sir William Dunn School of Pathology
South Parks Rd., Oxford OX1 3RE, England
Tel +865 275584
Fax +865 275501
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From: dbuck@world.std.com (David C Churbuck)
Subject: West Coast fishing
Summary: need tips on Seattle area, Oregon, Calif. coasts
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:34:32 GMT

In February business will take me to Seattle, thence down the coast by
car to San Francisco. With Massachusetts fishing confined to smelt,
offshore cod, and ice fishing (when there is ice) I have the itch
to cast for some fish in new places. Will it be worth it to travel
with a 5 wgt. rod? If so, what are some conveniently accessible places
to fish as I drive south from Seattle. Any flies I should tie beforehand?
Thanks in advance.
David Churbuck
Assoc. Ed. Comp/Comm
Forbes
From: bill@uci.uci.com (Bill Phipps)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Fishing in Florida - January 23rd/24th
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:02:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Unified Communications, Inc.
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Does anyone around can give some information on the BASS action in the
south Florida area.  I will be in Boca Raton that weekend and looking at 
getting out for a couple of days.  I will be looking at the Big O or local
lakes/canals in the area (Also around Coral Springs is good).

Any help would be more than appreciated.......I can help later in the
year for Minnesota fishing......

Bill Phipps

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Bloomington, MN  55425              (bill@uci.uci.com)
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Grnhouse & ICE
Date: 5 Jan 93 00:39:01 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

Not to pick on marv.bloom@rose.com (marv bloom) specifically when he writes:
 
| I don't agree, especially coming off the worst non-Summer that I can 
|remember (ptiu for said Greenhouse Effect).

What does this have to do with fishing?  Oh, I'm sure that say that the
"said" Greenhouse effect effects fishing but this is drifting a bit.

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From: Robert Drongowski <Robert.Drongowski@cc.umich.edu>
Subject: ARG
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 11:13:29 EST
Organization: Pediatric Surgery, U of Michigan
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1b2


While playing TRIVIAL PURSUIT over the Holidays (No ice due to the
Greenhouse Effect so that I couldn't Ice Fish :-)  ) we uncovered the
following question/answer:
Ques: What European Country's Study Concluded that when hooked, fish feel
pain?
Answ: Britain's
Get them while their young....
This Q/A was in the 1980's edition.
BOB DRONGOWSKI--"ICE FISHING IS REALLY A MISNOMER, MOST OF THE TIME"  The
Polish Fisherman
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Subject: NZ Trophy Water
From: C.K.Black@massey.ac.nz (C.K. Black)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 23:27:08 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Keywords: Happy camper
Summary: Can't believe my luck
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c

G'day All,
   This distribution is 'world' 'cause I'm as likely to find an
American who can answer this as I am to find some local knowledge.
I still can't believe my luck but I've been offered a seat on a
flight into some real trophy rainbow water,  the Kaimanawa ranges,
for a 3 day trip later this month.  Has anybody out there ever
fished the headwaters and tributaries of the Ngaruroro river?
   I won't have a guide and don't know how big the water is, the
best fly patterns, appropriate line weights etc.  I do know that
the rainbows I'll be chasing are in the 4 to 7.5 kg. class,  time
to pack in the 8/9 wgt rod?  8^)  If anyone has been down here and
fished the area, I'd love to hear from you!!!  Cheers..........
-- 
Conrad Black 

Email... C.K.Black@massey.ac.nz
Snail... Massey U., Plant Sc. Dept., Palmerston North, New Zealand
From: david@joshua.eushc.org (C. David Cooke)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Fishing on the Georgia Coast
Date: 7 Jan 1993 19:45:45 GMT
Organization: Emory University School of Medicine
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: david@joshua.eushc.org
NNTP-Posting-Host: 163.246.192.15

Hello all:

A friend of mine and I are planning a fishing trip to the Georgia Coast in mid to late
February, and I was wondering if anyone could offer suggestions for fishing spots.
We will have a 15' tri-hull to motor about in, and we would like to stay around the
St. Simons area.  I have heard that the Altamaha (sp?) Sound and River are excellent
fishing spots, especially for large Redfish - are there other spots to try?  Is there
a better winter time to go instead of February?  What kinds of fish are likely to be
"running" this time of year?

Thanks in advance for the info, post/email is ok.

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From: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com (Joe Whittemore)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Treble Hooks with Springs?
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:32:26 GMT
Reply-To: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com.UUCP (Joe Whittemore)
Distribution: rec
Organization: LES Engineering in Westfield, Ma.

In article <1464@fozzy.UUCP> dvanslyk@aud.alcatel.com writes:
>What is the theory behind treble hooks with springs? Do the springs
>give dough bait and power bait more to hold on to or does the spring
>put tension on the bait?


    The former - gives the bait something to hold onto...

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From: dvanslyk@aud.alcatel.com
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Treble Hooks with Springs?
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:58:56 GMT
Distribution: rec

What is the theory behind treble hooks with springs? Do the springs
give dough bait and power bait more to hold on to or does the spring
put tension on the bait?
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From: jab@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Alan Barrow)
Subject: Re: Fishing on the Georgia Coast
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:38:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta

There is good fishing on the coast, if you can believe the magazines...

I have not heard of that much redfish, but I would believe it.
May be a bit far north.

Mostly I have heard of trout (speck's) year round, and tarpon in the
summer.

Also there is some type of sand perch, or something.

They also do offshore fishing. (Wrecks, military/loran "towers", etc.)

Ga was early in stopping/reducing inshore netting, and trout stocks is
supposed to be much improved.

I have a newspaper article that lists several "outfitters"/guides for
the area. (Mainly for tarpon) The Atl Journal occasionally has articles
on the coast in the sports section.

If Fla bumps the out of state SW fishing license to $150 like is
proposed I will be doing lots of fishing in the Altamaha basin rather
then Fla! (Fished the Keys over XMAS, windy but still fun. Will need to
post details soon)

Have Fun!


 Alan Barrow  km4ba | I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack
 jab@atl.hp.com     | ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched
                    | C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
 ..!gatech!kd4nc!   | All those moments will be lost in time -
         km4ba!alan | like tears in rain. Time to die.          Roy Batty
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From: jmd@kastle.Princeton.EDU (John M. Danskin)
Subject: Barcodes on everything
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: jmd@kastle.Princeton.EDU (John M. Danskin)
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Princeton University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:06:36 GMT

<many forwards removed>

         Hatcheries Bar Code Fish, Naturally

         EVERETT, WASHINGTON, U.S.A., 1992 DEC 18 (NB) -- The Washington
         State Department of Fisheries and Intermec have figured out a
         clever way to bar code fish in hatcheries so their origin can
         be traced. By identifying the fish, researchers hope to be able
         to get better information on pollution, habitat damage, and
         survival rates.

         The method doesn't involve any handling of the fish, but is
         done in the hatchery during the embryo state of Salmon. A
         calcified element in the ear of fish, called an otolith, shows
         daily growth rings. By slightly lowering and raising the
         incubation water temperature for brief periods over 14 days,
         Intermec has been able to produce in the otolith rings in an
         Interleaved 2 of 5 bar code, representing the digit "6," on two
         million salmon raised in the Cowlitz Hatchery in Washington
         state.

         The Interleaved 2 of 5 code was chosen because its more easily
         visible to the human eye.

         One digit isn't enough, however, and tests are currently being
         done with 10 different incubation environments being used to
         encode 10 different digits. Intermec says the technique could
         be refined so it could be used to uniquely identify fish from
         every hatchery, and even sub units of hatcheries.

         Intermec, a division of Litton Industrial Automation, says it
         has bar coded other animals including, bees and moths. The
         company says its business is data collection hardware,
         software, systems, services, and supplies.

         (Linda Rohrbough/19921217/Press Contact: Kimberly Lombard,
         Intermec, tel 206-348-2600, fax 206-355-9551)


John Danskin			|
(609) 258-5386			| Gradual student
(609) 258-1771 fax              | Graphics systems
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From: censwm@cend3c7.caledonia.hw.ac.uk (Stuart W Munn)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Sweden, Lake fishing and Canoes near Stockholm
Date: 11 Jan 93 11:24:48 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

I am planning to be in Sweden for a week in late May. I would like to do some canoeing/camping/fishing for a few days near Stockholm. Anyone out there got any comments, contacts etc?

Stuart 
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From: bruce@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Bruce Hegge)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Looking for `FISHERMAN'S GLASSES'
Date: 7 Jan 1993 15:14:15 +0800
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniwa.uwa.edu.au

Dear Fisherfolk,

I am looking for some ``FISHERMAN'S GLASSES''. The particular glasses I
am looking for have grey polarized lenses, in a large tortoise shell
(plastic) frame and look pretty ugly (eg Roy Orbison). I believe they
are actually called `FISHERMAN'S GLASSES'' (this was stenciled on one of
the arms of the glasses).  These glasses were available here in Western
Australia until about a year ago when all the fishing shops stopped
importing them, (it seems the demand was not high enough!). They were
pretty cheap (approximately $AU 23.00) and I have spoke to several
commercial crayfishermen who used to swear by them. Does anybody
recognize this description and/or has any other info on these particular
glasses (eg where I might order them from? Cost? etc).

Any help appreciated,

Bruce Hegge
Department of Geography
University of Western Australia
Western Australia
 

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From: Dan Szymanski <Daniel_Szymanski@qms1.life.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: The White River
X-Xxdate: Sat, 9 Jan 93 00:30:02 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Organization: University of Illinois
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 23:31:35 GMT
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Daniel_Szymanski@qms1.life.uiuc.edu (Dan Szymanski)

By the way I thought I should point out I'm refering to the white
river in Arkansas. Just in case there are any other white rivers
notable for there trout.
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From: Robert Drongowski <Robert.Drongowski@cc.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Grnhouse & ICE
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 08:38:04 EST
Organization: Pediatric Surgery, U of Michigan
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1b2

In article <16212@auspex-gw.auspex.com> John Fereira, johnf@Auspex.COM
writes:
>What does this have to do with fishing?  Oh, I'm sure that say that the
>"said" Greenhouse effect effects fishing but this is drifting a bit.

John, because of the unusually cool summer in Michigan, walleye in Lake
Erie's
Western Basin basically stayed in the lake rather than moving up into the
Detroit River where people with small boats have greater access.  In
addition, the unusual weather pattern dramatically altered my fishing
during the 'summer'.  Since we had very few really warm summer days,
inland-lake thermoclines did not develop in their usual patterns.  This
affected my trout and panfishing "luck", or rather, lack of luck. 
Perhaps some species of fish were easier to catch because of the cool
water temperatures, but I did not find that to be so, although I heard
Bass fishing was very good.  Though I don't fly fish, I believe that
insect hatches were also altered on Michigan's rivers.
	Although others have suggested that the Greenhouse Effect is not real,
and that a 10 year time period is but a blimp on the total record, I
truly believe that we are having global warming.  The unusually cool
summer was probably due to Mount Pinatabbo (sp?) eruption in the
Philippines, and, after it's effect wears off, I would expect more
unusually hot weather.
If in fact the Greenhouse Effect is real and the world community doesn't
respond to it, then fishing will be greatly affected, as well as our
lives and that of our children.
 BOB DRONGOWSKI--"ICE FISHING IS REALLY A MISNOMER, MOST OF THE TIME" 
The Polish Fisherman
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: jab@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Alan Barrow)
Subject: Re: Fillet Knives (sharpening)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:20:32 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
Keywords: sharp as a ripe banana

In <6932@sniff.wfo.dec.com> jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com (Joe Whittemore) writes:

>I've used a Lansky sharpening system for a few years now and swear by it.

I have a Lansky ripoff that works well also.

The thing I found that makes the most difference is to do the coarser
stones at a shallower angle than the final polish. 

Ex:
    Medium and fine at 25 degrees
   
    Extra fine (or crok sticks) at 30 degrees.

Until I did this I could never seem to get the final polish on the edge.
Once I started doing this they are razor sharp. 

>shave the hair off of my arm with it. The only drawback that I've found is
>the system doesn't lend itself to well to blades longer than six or seven
>inches.

This is a problem. I use the Lansky to do the major shaping, then crok
sticks for the final polish and resharpens. 

With both methods stay away from your point, as they can round it off
very easily.


 Alan Barrow  km4ba | I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack
 jab@atl.hp.com     | ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched
                    | C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
 ..!gatech!kd4nc!   | All those moments will be lost in time -
         km4ba!alan | like tears in rain. Time to die.          Roy Batty
From: pavlov@niktow.canisius.edu (Greg Pavlov)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: ICE...Greenhouse Effect
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:04:16 GMT
Organization: Canisius College, Buffalo NY. 14208

In article <yKa=Cm+@engin.umich.edu>, Robert.Drongowski@cc.umich.edu (Robert Drongowski) writes:
> When I was considerably younger, we 'ice fished' from slightly before
> christmas until the end of March.  In the last ten years, only one time
> has the ice been safe around christmas, ... golf courses used to close from
> October until April, now, they charge into November, and reopen in March.
> Skiing, snow, cold etc...descreased substantially the last decade.
> This is one of the best measures of the greenhouse effect I know..... 
>

  Whether or not a "global warming" due to humankind's activities is actually
  occuring, the "evidence" you present is not likely to have anything to do
  with it. Scientists who do believe that this is in progress:

   1. are talking about an overall gradual change over (in human life span
      terms) a relatively "long" period of time;

   2. have attempted to model global weather pattern changes as a result of
      the global warming.  If you look at them, you will see that there is no
      obvious consistency in pattern in any one location.  Some areas actually
      are expected to become colder.  The most/only PERCEPTIBLE change in many 
      regions is expected to be in amount of precipitation.

  I personally believe that global warming is something that we should be very
  concerned about.  But the above, while it shows concern, trvializes a very
  complex situation almost as badly as the people who find it convenient to
  pretend that nothing can happen and conveniently invoke "PC" whenever anyone
  brings up the subject.  


  greg pavlov
  pavlov@fstrf.org
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From: k9un@cbnewse.cb.att.com (j.w.ague)
Subject: Re: The White River
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:48:47 GMT

I have relatives and friends in Mt. Home, Arkansas and have fished the
White River a couple of times. They have had lots of rain so I wouldn't
be suprised if they are running the generators to try to lower the lake
levels. This would make fishing tougher on the river(s). In fact, there
are times when the river is pretty dangerous 'cause they have lots of
water and the current can get pretty fast.

My experience with the river is mainly between the Buffalo confluence and
the Norfork confluence.  We floated the 1/4 miles stretch around the
White/Norfork confluence and caught about 80 trout last Spring. I had the
best luck with some Teeny Wee Crawdads by Rebel. All the colors worked
but I seemed to pick up bigger fish with the more natural colors.
Note I am talking about the "Teeny Wee" not the "Wee" crawdad. I have a whole
arsonel (sp?) of these lures. My favorite is a chartreuse deep diving
version.  If I could only have two types of lures in my tackle box, they
would be the Rebel and some twister tail bobby-pin spinners. I haven't
tried the spinners on the White, however.  There are also some Smallmouth
Bass  ni the White. Look around the Buffalo River confluence.

Good luck on the trip.

Wes Ague
From: pavlov@niktow.canisius.edu (Greg Pavlov)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: BOAT BUDDY product
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:07:24 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canisius College, Buffalo NY. 14208

In article <msmith.726262345@eugene>, msmith@convex.com (Matt Smith) writes:
> Has anybody used the BOAT BUDDY product that automaticaly latches
> the front of the boat to the trailer. It looks like a handy thing
> to have, but is it enough by itself, or do you also need to put 
> a safety chain or strap with it. For $54 I want to make sure I'm
> not throwing my money away.
> 
  I may not have understood what you asked.  BUT: regardless of what system
  you use to a)connect a boat trailer to a vehicle and b), attach a boat to
  a trailer, you should always have a backup connection for each.  The same
  applies to the surge brake mechanism, if you have one.


  greg pavlov
  pavlov@fstrf.org
From: bdowning@Control.COM (Bill Downing)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Atlantic salmon die at Sunderland MA. (USA)
Keywords: salmon
Date: 4 Jan 93 14:34:36 GMT
Organization: Control Technology Corp., Hopkinton MA


This is a test followup only...this newsreader's been doing strange
things lately :-(...ignore...


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From: msmith@beta.tricity.wsu.edu (Dragon Lord)
Subject: Re: West Coast fishing
Organization: Washington State University Tri-Cities, Richland
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 02:13:39 GMT

If you're going to be fishing rivers, take a number 7 or 8 fly rod.
There be Steelhead in them thar rivers!  If lake fishing, I haven't got
the foggiest.  I've done quite well during Feb. but be prepared to
freeze.
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