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From: hpoppe@ncar.ucar.edu (Herb Poppe)
Subject: Re: Quadra Ether interface [Was Re: MacTCP license fees
Organization: Scientific Computing Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:57:46 GMT

In article <smwall-131192084847@hipmac1.pica.army.mil> 
smwall@pica.army.mil (Steve Wall) writes:

> Personally, I thing Apple's use of a unique Apple AUI connector is a good
> thing, if you subscribe to their 'do it yourself' philosophy for 
computing.
> Imagine the trouble they'd have caused by using a standard AUI port, 
which
> has a connector identical to the Quadra's on-board video.  Picture
> thousands of people plugging their network into their video socket, and 
their
> monitors into their network socket.

As hard as Apple might try with design ideas like this, their dealers will 
still manage to screw things up. A couple of years ago a user came to me 
for help in getting a modem to work with their Mac Plus. They had just 
purchased the modem at a local Apple dealer, and got the dealer to make up 
a cable for them. I was flabberghasted by the cable. It was a 25 conductor 
ribbon cable with a DB-25 connector on either end. When I asked the user 
how the dealer had said it should be used to connect the modem to the Mac, 
she plugged one end into the modem and the other end into the SCSI port!

Herb Poppe                 National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)
hpoppe@ncar.ucar.edu       1850 Table Mesa Dr.
(303) 497-1296             Boulder, CO  80303
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: bmoore@mv2.nswc.navy.mil (Bill Moore)
Subject: POPmail (MailStop) on appletalk?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: NSWC
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:57:11 GMT

The following diagram is a simplified version our current setup:

                   MacA
                       |      
Ethernet  -----------------------------------
                                                                |
                                                           GatorBox
                                                                |
Appletalk -----------------------------------
                        |                         |
                   MacB                    MacC
                                              (MailStop Server)

1. MacA has an ethernet card, is connected to the ethernet and has POPMail
2.06 client software.
2. MacB is connected to Appletalk and has POPMail II 2.06 client software.
3. MacC is connected to Appletalk and has MailStop 1.1.2 server software
installed.
4. All Macs are running system 7.0 and MacTCP 1.1.
5. The GatorBox is a vintage model running V1.6 of GatorKeeper software.

The problem: MacA can connect with MacC and perform all mail functions
quite nicely. When a fetch command is executed POPmail on MacB the response
is
"cannot connect to server". Will MacB work in this configuration? What am I
doing wrong?



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Bill Moore,  bmoore@mv2.nswc.navy.mil,  (703)663-8851
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: root@pinet.aip.org (C Super User)
Subject: Harpoon BBS
Organization: American Institute of Physics
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 18:20:44 GMT


I there any type of BBS for Macintosh Harpoon except for cz.

Thanks in advance

steve@aip.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: deek@pecan.cns.udel.edu (michael deerkoski)
Subject: Re: URGENT: How to DISABLE Apple double in NFS/Share
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 03:32:03 GMT

In article <sdorner-181192163300@0.0.0.0> sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner) writes:
>As for "Apple's plans of possibly charging for MacTCP"; well, all I can say
>is that that's the understatement of the millenium.

Sure Apple's site licence fees for MacTCP are high.  However, for Joe User
to purchase his own site licence is about as practical as purchasing your own
interstate highway to get to work every morning.  Apple hasn't said how
much it will charge for single-user licences of MacTCP (if at all) but I'd be
shocked if it's over $100.

Seeya,

-- 
Michael Deerkoski           |Internet: deek@brahms.udel.edu
Undergraduate               |     FTP: rayst3.rayst.udel.edu
University of Delaware      |CompuServe: 76300,2612|AppleLink:      deek
Apple Computer Student Rep. |ARA:      302 837-6473|America Online: deek
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: CSP1DWD@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (CSP1DWD)
Subject: GV PowerPort Gold & SLIP: poor performance!
Date: 22 Nov 92 03:18:38 PST

Other have pointed this already, I think, but cslip performance on
an internal PowerPort Gold moden on a PB-170 is terrible, ftp transfer
rates of 800 chars/sec on already compressed data... the same
configuration when used with an external v.32bis modem hits rates
approaching 1660 chars/sec... kind of hard to believe that minia-
turization of the modem emaciated its performance so terribly!

-- Denis 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: phil@sonia.math.ucla.edu (Phil Goodman)
Subject: Re: Global Village Teleport/System 7.1/Powerbook 180 Problem
Keywords: Teleport System 7.1 Powerbook
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 19:09:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.225621.8428@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> fulrj4@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (FULLFORD RICHARD) writes:
>Has anyone tried to use the Global Village Teleport/Fax with
>Version 2.02 of the software with a Powerbook 180?
> 
>When I tried to load the software my system hung at the first
>restart. It worked fine with all the same software on an
>SE/30. Is the problem System 7.1 or the Powerbook or have I
>just got some other incompatibility?
>
>Thanks in advance for any advice.
>
>Richard Fullford

Make sure you have the latest version of the teleport software.
I believe it's 2.0.6. You can usually download Global Village's software
from AOL (I assume it's on Compuserve and AppleLink as well).

Or you can call Global Village directly.

--Phil



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Internet: phil@pic.ucla.edu                             Compu$erve: 74726,2444
America Online: PhilippeG                                  AppleLink: Philippe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: dwade@svcdudes.com
Subject: Re: ANSI COMM PROGRAM?
Organization: Software Ventures, Inc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 20:29:09 GMT

In article <6336.2b0780ea@hayes.com> bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman) writes:
>In article <1992Nov13.125944.12158@utkux1.utk.edu>, Danny W. McCampbell <danny@utkux1.utk.edu> writes:
>> Is there a good ANSI Terminal Program outthere that
>> will not only use a modem, but use MacTCP for Telnet
>> connections?  
>
>I'm not sure what you mean by ANSI. Smartcom II for the Mac has excellent
>ANSI.SYS emulation (as used on BBSes and the like). It also has VT102
>emulation par excellence. 
>
>You can use it with MacTCP by using a Telnet connection tool. Unfortunately,
>we don't ship one with the product.
>

	Ditto for MicroPhone Pro, except that we ship with one.  Ditto
for at least some versions of VersaTerm, except their tool isn't very good.
And I believe ditto for PacerTerm, although I haven't used it. Oh, and 
MicroPhone II 4.0 is the same, it'll use it if you've got it.

>Smartcom II is about $85 through larger mail order houses like MacWarehouse.

	We're all more expensive, but do more stuff.  MP's big selling
point is the scripting language, VT and PT have more TCP/IP tools built
in, VT has some weird terminal emulations.  Smartcom's niche is really fast
scroll rates :-).
>
>-- 
>Bill Coleman, AA4LR                ! CIS: 76067,2327    AppleLink: D1958
>Principal Software Engineer        ! Packet Radio: AA4LR @ W4QO
>Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc. ! UUCP: uunet!hayes!bcoleman
>POB 105203 Atlanta, GA 30348 USA   ! Internet: bcoleman%hayes@uunet.uu.net
>Disclaimer: "My employer doesn't pay me to have opinions."
>Quote: "The same light shines on vineyards that makes deserts." -Steve Hackett.
>


-- 
Doug Wade  /  dwade@svcdudes.com  /   Disclaimer:  It's not official, folks.
From: MikeSummers@cup.portal.com (Michael - Summers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: X packages for Mac other than MacX?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 07:25:52 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Can anyone recommend 3rd party X packages for the Mac? I'm having 
problems with Apples product and would like some alternatives.

--Mike
From: edw@distant.uucp (Ed Watkeys)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacTCP license fees & Eudora
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:05:43 GMT
Reply-To: edw%distant@bts.com
Organization: Distant Software
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <iscjcw-231192105511@ajax.ucop.edu> (comp.sys.mac.comm), iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu (Jerry Wilcox) writes:
> 
> In article <BxyGwu.n0q@rivm.nl>, ron@rivm.nl (Ron Roozendaal) wrote:
> > 
> > There is a solution: just wait until Eudora is shipped with the next release.
> > Put Eudora on every mac, and you'll have tcp as well.
> > 
> 
> I believe the problem here is that the current versions of Eudora are NOT
> being shipped with MacTCP. When Eudora was being maintained by UIUC, the
> University had a MacTCP distribution license so the Eudora package included
> MacTCP. Now that Eudora is being developed/distributed by Qualcomm, MacTCP
> is no longer included, and given the rumors of the cost of MacTCP
> distribution licenses, I would be surprised if Qualcomm were interested in
> obtaining such a license just so the free Eudora package could include
> MacTCP.

In addition, when you buy a piece of software which includes MacTCP, you're
only supposed to use it with the software you purchased it with. This is like
almost all other Apple system software.

Ed
 
> -----------
> Jerry Wilcox - iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu
> All opinions expressed are MINE -- I'd have a different job if the
> University wanted me to speak for it.
> 

--
Edwin H. Watkeys III                                   edw@distant.uucp
Distant Software                               dsinc!jabber!distant!edw
+1 215 387 7971                                     edw%distant@bts.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: greeny@top.cis.syr.edu (J. S. Greenfield)
Subject: Re: StuffIt Expander 3.0 (was Re: HQX files)
Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 08:50:37 EST

In article <1992Nov17.195527.28171@netcom.com> leonardr@netcom.com (Leonard Rosenthol) writes:

>	Look for a new and improved version of StuffIt Expander (version 3.0)
>in the next 7-10 days which will solve all of your downloading/expansion needs -
>including support for BinHex files (Multipart ones too!), and a "Downline-like"
>feature called "Watch Folders".

Any chance that Magic Menu will be expanded to include BinHex/de-BinHex
commands?

I find that I frequently use MM to create small archives to be emailed
out.  It's great to be able to stuff files without having to launch StuffIt,
but it's a pain to have to turn around and launch StuffIt (or BinHex 4, or
whatever) in order to Binhex the file.

Is there a drag-and-drop *Binhexer* (as opposed to a de-Binhexer) out there
somewhere?


-- 
J. S. Greenfield                                         greeny@top.cis.syr.edu
(I like to put 'greeny' here, 
but my d*mn system wants a 
*real* name!)                        "What's the difference between an orange?"
From: bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: ANSI COMM PROGRAM?
Date: 16 Nov 92 11:07:21 EDT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <1992Nov13.125944.12158@utkux1.utk.edu>, Danny W. McCampbell <danny@utkux1.utk.edu> writes:
> Is there a good ANSI Terminal Program outthere that
> will not only use a modem, but use MacTCP for Telnet
> connections?  

I'm not sure what you mean by ANSI. Smartcom II for the Mac has excellent
ANSI.SYS emulation (as used on BBSes and the like). It also has VT102
emulation par excellence. 

You can use it with MacTCP by using a Telnet connection tool. Unfortunately,
we don't ship one with the product.

Smartcom II is about $85 through larger mail order houses like MacWarehouse.

-- 
Bill Coleman, AA4LR                ! CIS: 76067,2327    AppleLink: D1958
Principal Software Engineer        ! Packet Radio: AA4LR @ W4QO
Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc. ! UUCP: uunet!hayes!bcoleman
POB 105203 Atlanta, GA 30348 USA   ! Internet: bcoleman%hayes@uunet.uu.net
Disclaimer: "My employer doesn't pay me to have opinions."
Quote: "The same light shines on vineyards that makes deserts." -Steve Hackett.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: nrf@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (neal.r.fildes)
Subject: Re: StuffIt Expander 3.0 (was Re: HQX files)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:48:43 GMT

> 	We argee with you, and the new 3.0.3 version of Drop*Stuff (part of the 
> full StuffIt Deluxe 3.0.3 update available in the next 24 hours from your 
> favorite FTP, etc. sites) includes the ability to binhex the resultant
> archive (along with some other nice new features).
> 
> -- 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Leonard Rosenthol			Internet: 	leonardr@netcom.com
> Director of Advanced Technology		AppleLink:	MACgician
> Aladdin Systems, Inc.			GEnie:		MACgician
> 


this is nice, but it seems that a drag-and-drop un-binhexer will be
used even more frequently. will Drop*Unstuff have the reverse capability

Neal Fildes
AT&T Bell Labs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: todd.strauch@med.umich.edu (Todd R Strauch)
Subject: Re: ARA & 7.1
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 09:56:40 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Medical School
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Distribution: comp

In article <1ebthnINNg9g@function.mps.ohio-state.edu>,
gregt@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gregory M Ferrar) wrote:

I have had two experiences with ARA and 7.1.  On a PB 180, it installed
just fine.  On a IIsi, it dies with a -5551 error (gestaltUndefSelectorErr)
when I try to load the setup control panel.  I've started from scratch,
installing both a new system and reinstalling ARA, and have not been able
to clear this error.  Any feelings or suggestions that anyone may have on
this would be appreciated.

Todd R. Strauch
University of Michigan Medical School
Ann Arbor, Michigan
todd.r.strauch@med.umich.edu
From: Greg@sys.uea.ac.uk (Greg Newton-Ingham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: FAQ - Powerbook Modem recommendations ?
Date: 16 Nov 92 11:27:48 GMT
Organization: School of Information Systems, UEA, UK
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A72D32E062010428@gni.sys.uea.ac.uk>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 16 Nov 92 11:13:36 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11

Sorry about this but I have just ordered a PB180 and I want to put a 
modem in it. The modem will be used for Fax (send) and ARA (at least
9600).

Should I forget an internal modem and go for a small external ?

What are the differences between the internal modems from PSI and Global 
Village ? The PSI seems much cheaper about 200 pounds sterling.

Is there a radically different power consumption for having a modem 
internally and which is best for the battery ?

Should I wait for the Apple Express modem ?

Are ARA scripts available for all the internal PB modems ?

Can anyone suggest a company that will do international orders on 
these modems cheap ? The price in the UK seems to be about 600 pounds
sterling 
for a PowerPort/Gold.

thanks for any comments,

Greg Newton-Ingham <Greg@sys.uea.ac.uk>
From: daven@notable.com (Dave Newman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: ANSI COMM PROGRAM?
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 09:29:49 PST
Organization: Notable Technologies, Inc.
Reply-To: daven@notable.com
X-Mailer: uAccess LITE - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <1992Nov17.202909.4361@svcdudes.com> (comp.sys.mac.comm), dwade@svcdudes.com writes:
| Smartcom's niche is really fast scroll rates :-).

Don't forget, Smartcom II is cheaper and has a better user interface too.  :-)

--Dave

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Piet Saslawsky <psaslaw@oc.com>
Subject: Re: MacTCP Hosts File
Organization: Advanced Software Concepts
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
     <sdorner-181192171334@0.0.0.0>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 05:23:44 GMT


>Without seeing the actual file, it's hard to tell.  Keep it small, for
one
>thing; MacTCP can't handle a big file.

MacTCP 1.1 can only handle 21 entries. This is a bug : MacTCP 1.0.1 could
handle about 120 entries. This bug was corrected in version 1.1.1.

Piet Saslawsky
Advanced Software Concepts (France)      Open Connect Systems (Dallas)
email: adv.soft@applelink.apple.com      email: psaslaw@oc.com
voice: (33) 93 24 76 00                  voice: (214) 888 0658
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: leonardr@netcom.com (Leonard Rosenthol)
Subject: Conversion of archives (was Re: StuffIt Expander 3.0) 
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:10:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.140147.40993@cybermac.uvm.edu> hyerstay@cybermac.uvm.edu (Jason Hyerstay) writes:
>What about StuffIt Converter? Every copy that I have ever tried has failed to
>convert anything. I think I would buy StuffIt Deluxe if I could batch convert
>all of my Compact Pro file on my BBS.
>
	StuffIt Converter is part of the StuffIt Deluxe package, and as such
requires the presence of the StuffIt Engine (which is also part of StuffIt
Deluxe).

	If you would like ot convert your archives before upgrading to Deluxe,
check out our new "CPT2SIT" application which is now available at an FTP site
near you ;)

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Leonard Rosenthol			Internet: 	leonardr@netcom.com
Director of Advanced Technology		AppleLink:	MACgician
Aladdin Systems, Inc.			GEnie:		MACgician
From: zinkin@acsu.buffalo.edu (David R Zinkin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Anyone have a copy of Com23 (shareware version)?
Summary: Com23 Minitel Emulator -- I need it!  Please help!
Keywords: Minitel
Date: 20 Nov 92 02:07:48 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: UB

A while back, one of the kind souls on this group E-mailed me a copy
of the shareware version of Com23, a Minitel emulator.  I never used
it, but I kept it around in case one of my clients needed it.  Well,
one of them does, but as it turns out my copy is now corrupted.

So, I'm turning to the readers of this board for help.  Could someone
*please* E-mail me a copy of the last shareware version of Com23?
Also, since I'm told it's now a commercial product, does anyone know
how to get the commercial version?  (My client wants to try the shareware
version, then buy the commercial version if he likes the shareware one.)

Thanks to all!
 -- Dave Zinkin
From: msung@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Michael L Sung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Fax software that do OCR?
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:47:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.225944.48703@edgeway.wimsey.bc.ca> gio@edgeway.wimsey.bc.ca (Dom Giovannangeli) writes:
>Is there any fax program that can translate an incoming document (bitmap) 
>to letters that a word processor can understand?

FaxSTF Plus 1.0 has built-in OCR suport for its fax program, which in turn
supports most fax modems.  Give it a close look...

msung@eniac.seas.upenn.edu 


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner)
Subject: Re: MacTCP distribution methods
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:03:39 GMT

In article <1e3lanINN30j@intercon.intercon.com>, amanda@intercon.com
(Amanda Walker) wrote:
> Disclaimer: Remember, Apple has made no official comment yet, beyond the
> new licensing agreement for 1.1.1.  If you care about future plans, call
> Apple at the number Steve gave.

Yes.  Call Apple.  Write Apple.  We just might be getting through, at least
to Horton, if not yet the Wickersham Brothers.

--
Steve Dorner, Qualcomm, Inc.
Why does Apple want to eliminate cheap MacTCP applications?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner)
Subject: MacTCP License Fees
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:27:31 GMT

Thanks to all who sent mail regarding MacTCP licensing to Alistair Woodman
(MacTCP product manager, woodman1@applelink.apple.com).  I received some
email yesterday from him.  I will not repost it here, as he asked me not to
do so; he is going to reply personally.  However, he did clarify some
points for me, and I feel it's safe to pass the clarifications on to all of
you.

JUST THE FACTS

1. Apple will honor existing internal use licenses for MacTCP; licensees
will receive the 1.1.1 upgrade, with no added fees.
2. Apple will honor existing commercial redistribution licenses for MacTCP;
licensees will be allowed to resistribute 1.1.1, with no added fees. 
However, there is indeed a revocation clause in these new licenses.
3. Apple will sell individual copies of "The TCP Connection" for $60.  This
will include MacTCP 2.0 and "SNMP".
4. The high site license fees do apply to all new site licenses.  However,
there are going to be volume licenses, based on the number of units you
want.

MY OWN HUMBLE OPINIONS

It is still unclear as to whether existing licenses will apply to MacTCP
2.0.  Rumor has it they will not; I have asked Mr Woodman to clarify this
point.

Much depends on the pricing of the volume licenses.  Perhaps these will be
reasonable, but I have been given no numbers.

If Apple intends to replace site licenses with volume licenses, they could
have saved us all a lot of anguish by having the terms of the volume
licenses available at the same time they raised the prices on the site
licenses.

SNMP?  What's SNMP?  I hear you ask.  SNMP stands for "Simple Network
Management Protocol".  It lets administrators view (and perhaps control)
TCP configurations over the network.  RFC 1157 describes the protocol.
--
Steve Dorner, Qualcomm, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: jam@jupiter.claremont.edu (Jay Margolis)
Subject: Re: ANSI COMM PROGRAM?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 07:35:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.125944.12158@utkux1.utk.edu>, Danny W. McCampbell  
<danny@utkux1.utk.edu> writes:
> Is there a good ANSI Terminal Program outthere that
> will not only use a modem, but use MacTCP for Telnet
> connections?  

MacIntercomm from Mercury Systems sounds like the best choice.  When it  
comes to ANSI, especially FAST ANSI, it wins hands down against all  
others.  The difference is really clear in 8-bit mode when things would  
normally be slow, but MacIntercomm still cruises.  Its ANSI is 16 color  
unlike another other program besides Smartcom.  But the problem with  
Smartcom is that it doesn't even support Blink!

I use MacTCP and the comm toolbox with it using Intercon's (a different  
company) Telnet tool.  Works great with VT220 emulation to my local VAX  
(another feature Smartcom lacks).

-Jay
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm