From: ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata FSO)
Subject: Re: Amiga Whiners
Reply-To: ata@hfsi.UUCP (John Ata FSO)
Organization: HFSI, McLean VA.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:10:19 GMT

>Mike Whalen writes:
>
>>I think we should turn this one around on Commodore. I don't care if it
>>took a syndicated newspaper article to wake up Commodore or IF they think
>>everything is ok..
>>
>>It's NOT alright!
>>
>>I am sick of hearing Commodore when they come under serious criticism. That
>>does NOTHING for us. I feel like I have wasted $1000 on this blasted
>>computer because I can't do crap with it that anyone will take notice and
>>say, Hey that's cool.
>>
>
>Ya know I always thought computers were tools to do work and have fun
>with for one's own PERSONAL enjoyment/productivity.  Hence the name
>Personal Computer.  If the only reason you own a computer is to turn
>somebody elses head, you have wasted your $1000.  Each and every one
>of us makes his or her system(s) useful, and you get out of your computer
>exactly what you put into it.  Your lack of satisfaction doesn't come
>from Commodore Business Machine, it's a little closer to home for all of
>us.
>
I would add to that: Does the term "cutting your nose to spite
your face" mean anything to any of you people?  Do you really
think the Amiga situation is the worst it can get?  I find curious
the notion that bad publicity in the media is a "good" thing
because it would get Commodore to change its behaviour to your way
of thinking.  Sorry, but bad publicity helps no one.  Amiga sales
go down, and Commodore then has a real excuse for cutting R&D to a
lower figure than it is currently doing.  No one wins.  There are
certainly more intelligent ways of making your views known besides
the poorly though out knee jerk reactions that seem to be pouring
out in this conference.

>>
>>Let's TURN THIS BUGGER AROUND ON THEM!
Please enhance your thought processes to a more mature state.

>>
>>I mean it! If Commodore won't listen to us, then maybe Mr. Robinson will.
>
>Mr. Robinson's article is simply calling the kettle black kiddies!  Our
>computer purchase's have instant depreciation/death/obsolete stamped on
>the rear cover.  (What you haven't looked!  Its right under the Serial Num.)
>
>You can't measure a computer's value through material comparision.  I don't
>mean to sound Zen, but the value of your system comes from YOU.
>
>>Maybe if he gets enough responses from us saying, "No, everything is NOT
>>alright. Commodore is lying to you as much as they is lying to us." Then
>>maybe he will listen to us before Commodore because WE buy the machines. We
>>support it. We advertise the bloody thing! 
>>
>
>You certainly don't seem to be supporting it now.  What software/hardware/
>upgrade/consulting work have you done to support it?  And having done all
>of the above support what terrible catastrophe turned you down this dark
>path, Luke?  (Besides your obvious "do other people approve" insecurity)
>
>>
>>If it destroys the Amiga.. when then it's Commodore's fault. Not ours. We
>>have done our part and now it's time to start hitting Commodore with some
>>force. It's not right for us to shed thousands of dollars into our machines
>>that are pitiful excuses for upgrades from previous machines.
>>
>>Like I said, if the Amiga dies.. it dies. That's in Commodore's hands. We
>>can show people the EuroDemos and talk about how cool it is.. but when Joe
>>Amiga Fan is sitting at his home and he can't get any help from Commodore
>>or he reads articles that says it's dead.. he is NOT going to buy one.
>>Forget it. We can only do so much. Commodore has to advertise. Commodore
>>has to better it's relationships with the dealers. That's just not in our
>>hands.
>>
>>Jeez. This is so rediculous. I can't believe they want us to lie for them
>>now. Everything it NOT alright.
>>
>>Call or WRITE Mr. Robinson and tell him, "No! Everything is NOT alright. We
>>as Amiga fans are sick of this."
What do you really think this will accomplish?  Do you really expect Mr. 
Robinson to write another editorial saying how great the Amiga community is
in recognizing the "truth" that CBM is the root of all the Amigas problems?
Show how this helps the Amiga on iota.
>
>>
>>Mike.. 
>
>Just Do It <Nike commercial I saw two weeks ago in the Florida Everglades>
>
>JM - "I can't reach the mush because of this damned white jacket!!"

Please, let's be constructive in any criticisms of CBM or the Amiga.

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