HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mwoo@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Margaret Woo)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Fa La La
Keywords: Xmas
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:07:15 GMT
Reply-To: mwoo@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Margaret Woo)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Dec15.232914.11725@eff.org> fsquared@eff.org (Fawn Fitter) writes:
>Okay, let's reminisce.....
>
>What's the sappiest, gooiest, most out-and-out romantic Xmas gift you've
>ever gotten?  

A suite at the Ritz-Carlton, roses, champagne, and a bubble bath in 
a 100 gallon tub during a drought...ah...bliss
:)

Of course, now he's my ex-SO, so no more suites...  :(

Margaret
From: dshire@ucrengr.ucr.edu (Darth 'Vader' Shire)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: what is love? (my $0.02)
Date: 16 Dec 92 10:48:34 GMT
Organization: Waiting List, Brain Transplant Recipient


if some guy loses all sense of reason and couldn't concentrate on some
lab assignment that he's supposed to do and couldn't think clearly and
really couldn't do anything productive at all 'cept prance around looking
at trees and birds and the y, feeling very happy about everything, all 
because of something a certain girl told him earlier that day, IS THAT LOVE?

just a little run on sentence from me

david
(i really don't know anything, y'know, 'cept programming...)
-- 
d a v i d s h i r e d a v i d s h i r e d a v i d s h i r e d a v i d s
a Another fine posting by me!		a "body of a feeb, mind of an h
v dshire@cs.ucr.edu      		v infant so don't you call me i 
i And there was much rejoicing...	i an idiot"                   r
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil)
Subject: Re: Do Women Really Want A Guy That Makes Them Laugh?
Keywords: Nyuk-nyuk-nyuk!  Woo-woo-woo-woo!  Hey Moe! Hey Larry!
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:54:39 GMT

stone@cwis.unomaha.edu (Travis Stone) writes:



>Ladies of A.R. :

>I have heard---time and again---that one of the big things a
>woman looks for in a guy is "a sense of humor".  Well, pardon
>me for saying this, but that's a wee bit vague.  Just what do
>women *mean* when they say they like a guy with a sense of humor?

What do we mean?  Well, actually, Travis, it's going to mean many
different things to many different women.  I like someone who can laugh
at my jokes.  :-)

>I have heard variants of this answer, things like "I like a guy
>who can make me laugh."  There *must* be a hell of alot more to
>it than this, ladies---as many gals as I've gotten giggling, I
>should be dripping with women.  Now, be honest---grins 'n giggles
>*aren't* the only things you look for in a man, so tell me:
>What else are you looking for?  

I like men who are fun, who enjoy life, who don't just sit around all the
time doing nothing.  Maybe the word I'm looking for is spontaneity.  I also 
like a man who is intelligent, open to new ideas and experiences.  I also
would like to meet a man who is able to deal with the fact that I'm currently
doing a lot of growing up right now.  

I'm pretty much opposed to only one thing: bigots.  

>---- T.R. Stone
>     Average-Looking, Kinda Funny, Completely Perplexed By Women

You sound normal to me.  Our aim, as women, is to perplex you men.

Sharon
oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu
From: becher@vax.path.ox.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: "We could still be friends"
Date: 17 Dec 92 07:25:21 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Molecular Biology Data Centre
Nntp-Posting-User: becher

In article <1992Dec14.043223.25291@news.Hawaii.Edu>, deb@spectra.eng.hawaii.edu (David Barrett) writes:
> In article <oneil.724138906@cwis> oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil) writes:
>>csg068@cch.coventry.ac.uk (** DECKER **) writes:
>>
>>>What do you do when someone says "I really like you, but it'll never be
>>>anything more"?
>>
>>
>>But more times than not, when a person says this, he or she really means
>>it and doesn't change his or her mind.
>>
>>sharon 
>>oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu
>>
> 
> The hard part of hearing such a statement is that it gives a double message thatis a contradiction and usually the first part is dishonest if the unrealistic
> second part is meant.  To keep from being optimistic about "they didn't really
> mean it", probably better to write it off rather than wait for the possibly
> confused person to make up their minds.  The likelyhood of changing their minds
> again in the future is suggested by default.
> 
> 
> dB
I have to disagree here, I'm afraid. I think it is quite possible to really 
enjoy having someone around, or even be infatuated with them, but knowing at 
the same time that a long term thing could never work (for any variety of 
reasons). The decent thing to do is to let them know about this, but why 
should you have to gice up on the friendship/enjoying each others company 
part?
I do agree that in most cases (in my experience) the person who made so a 
statement really means it and won't change his/her mind.
Anette
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor)
Subject: Re: More, Do Not try this at home .....
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 20:59:26 GMT

In article <Bz3nLt.95G@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> epperson@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Mary) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.075602.70117@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
>>In <1g3krdINNcn4@rodan.UU.NET> dch@rodan.UU.NET (Dan C. Horner) writes:
>>>Oh, this is SOOOOOOO disgusting... What were you doing in drieux' doors
>>>while I was in drieux' doors ?
>>
>>At least you weren't both in driuex' drawers at the same time.
>
>Well, as one who was at the Castle at the time, I remember Rip and
>Blade carrying doors (doing ManlyMenThings), but I *don't* remember
>anything that would entail getting into "drawers" :-)
>
>And it was soooo much fun watching these two do ManlyMenStuff...that's
>what those muscles are for guys... *grin*
>
>Mary

Well, that's what *some* of those muscles are for.... >;-)

rip
-- 
Grab reality by the balls, and squeeze....
                                          Tempus
From: maci9154@mach1.wlu.ca (macivor dawna)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Merry Christmas to all! =)
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:17:41 GMT
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University


  |
  |             Wishing you Happy Holidays
  |        ...        *                        *       *
  |          ...   *         * ..and...                        *
  |     *      ...        *           *            *
  |              ...               ... A Happy New Year!        *
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  |               __##____              *                      *
  |      *    *  /  ##  ****                   *
  |             /        ****               *         *  X   *
  |       *    /        ******     *                    XXX      *
  |           /___________*****          *             XXXXX
  |            |            ***               *       XXXXXXX   X
  |        *   | ___        |                    *   XXXXXXXX  XXX
  |      *     | | |   ___  | *       *             XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
  |            | |_|   | |  ****             *           X   XXXXXXX
  |        *********** | | *******      *                X      X
  |    ************************************************************

I hope you all have a wonderful Christmas and an even better New Year!  Talk
to everyone in the New Year!

Smiles & Hugs,
  Dawna =)
From: Gleeep@cup.portal.com (Dave - Silon)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Need romantic way to propose
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 21:13:29 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

>would it be permissible to have a helpful sibling do the actual writing?

No.  Too mundane - you must use a tactical assault gerbil, who will
casually gnaw through some flimsy wall panel and then use his strap-on
infrared signature reader to find the victim...uh bride.  Then, he would
carefully use one of his toes as a quill and write the message on her
forehead using a deliberate quantity of india ink in his cheek pouch.

[depending on how well you train him, he will probably spit the rest on
the carpet, a minor drawback...]

>what colour is most effective?

Whichever color reminds her most of her previous episode with satanic
possession.  What?  Where did that come from?  Hmmm.

> -- Deep Thoughts with Gleeep on A.R.

Uh oh,  now I'm really in trouble.  The dog was absolutely harmless as
long as you didn't approach him when he had piece of food he wasn't
supposed to have (like your arm) or a bone.

...or your favorite stuffed frog.  Poor froggie - I stood there helpless
and watched you go blind.  I have lived with this guilt and would like to
say now that it has twisted my soul.  If only I would have signed up for
that Evelyn Wood Speed Eye Surgery course, I could have saved you.

[sweeping lament]

- Gleeep
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,alt.romance.chat
From: rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor)
Subject: Re: More, Do Not try this at home .....
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 16:10:17 GMT

In article <92Dec16.063224.19228@acs.ucalgary.ca> verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey) writes:
>In article <Bz4C8L.9B7@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> epperson@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Mary) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec11.205926.14731@sequent.com> rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>>>>And it was soooo much fun watching these two do ManlyMenStuff...that's
>>>>what those muscles are for guys... *grin*
>>>>Mary
>>>
>>>Well, that's what *some* of those muscles are for.... >;-)
>>>
>>>rip
>>
>>Those *are* the muscles you were using that night, weren't they?  I
>>mean, did we miss something when you two and Drieux retreated to the
>>garage?
>>
>>Mary
>
>MA ROTFL and grins at Mary... Good one :):)
>
>MA tickles Rip and Drieux

Oh yeah!  Tickle torture!  I love it!  ThankyouThankyouThankyou!
Oooo!  Aaaaahhh!  Oooooo!

>SNUGS
>
>Mary-Ann

rip(Obedient Slave of MA)
-- 
Grab reality by the balls, and squeeze...

                                        Tempus
From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Signs
Date: 17 Dec 92 01:18:16 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Dec15.015900.4634@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> robinsonm@clvax1.cl.msu.edu writes:
...
>   Is there any kind of a signal, that cannot be mistaken for 
>friendship, that lets one know that it just might be OK if you 
>took the plunge with someone.  My readership of signs is way 
>heinous simply because I am now quite uncertain what is meant to 
>be just touchy feely friendly and what is meant to be "if you 
>don't get over here soon....."
>
If you are looking for someone else to give you as signal, you might as
well forget it. People use different signals, so unless you know
someone well, you can't expect to read them this way.  Also, people
generally have mixed emotions, so if you wait till they are sure about
enough about being interested in you to try to communicate an interest,
you may be waiting longer than you should.

My suggestion as always is don't wait to find for the other person to
make the first move (which is what you are doing if you are waiting 
for a hint!). Try to be subtle enough not to startle the other person,
but not so subtle that they miss the point. What you do depends on the
situation. Ask her out, steal a kiss, whatever seems appropriate --
just don't overdo it.


Michael.
From: casey@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov (Sean Casey GSFC (301)286-4558)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: what is love? (my $0.02)
Summary: what is love?
Keywords: love
Date: 14 Dec 92 00:41:00 GMT
Organization: NASA/GSFC-Laboratory for Astronomy and Solar Physics
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <lyra.724275329@camelot>, lyra@camelot.bradley.edu (Heather Loresch) writes...
> 
> 
>well, i recently started reading this group, and i'm very impressed
>with all of the people here. the advice many of you have been handing
>out has been very good IMO. now i just thought i'd get up on my
>soapbox and clue you all in as to some of my thoughts.
> 
>maybe i just define words differently, but i don't see love as an
>emotion. "in love" is, but love is something you have in your heart,
>to share with the people that matter to you, regardless of what they
>do or what they give in return. as a radio dj in my area said, love
>never dies, but sometimes the loving ends. also, i don't see the "one
>right person" bit. there are so many people in this world with so many
>personalities, i find it impossible to believe that there is only one
>person that is right for me. 
>IMO love is something you have to share with as many people as you
>can. i'm not talking commitment love. i believe in sharing a special
>commitment with one person, someone to spend my life with. but love
>comes in so many different forms, you can't direct ALL of your love at
>just one person. you deny yourself so much that way. i dunno.
>sometimes i scare my friends because i tell them i love them. at this
>point in time, most of my closest friends are men and they think i
>mean something else. i just try to tell them that they are important
>to me. 
> 
>well, that's my life's philosophy! i'd love to hear how some of you
>react to it. do you agree, disaggree, see a point that you think isn't
>quite right? let me know! i'm interested in hearing responses!
> 
>lyra@camelot.bradley.edu
> 
> 


What impresses me about women is the depth of emotions of which
they are capable. As a guy, I've never really understood this
(until maybe recently - and maybe not even then).

Question: Is the love expressed by men as varied as that expressed
by women?

SC
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: "We could still be friends"
From: rcbi110@marshall.wvnet.edu
Date: 17 Dec 92 10:10:02 -0500
Organization: Marshall University

> 
>   Seems that it's very easy to point to someone else and say "It's your
> fault!"  But, it's the hardest thing in the world to take a hard look at
> yourself and say "Something's wrong with me?  What is it and how can I change
> it?"

It's not so hard to say "something's wrong with me" as you might think.
Probably a quarter of the people out there would start with that as their 
first question.  I used to be hard on myself like that.

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From: lyra@camelot.bradley.edu (Heather Loresch)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: what is love? (my $0.02)
Summary: what is love?
Keywords: love
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:35:29 GMT
Organization: Bradley University



well, i recently started reading this group, and i'm very impressed
with all of the people here. the advice many of you have been handing
out has been very good IMO. now i just thought i'd get up on my
soapbox and clue you all in as to some of my thoughts.

maybe i just define words differently, but i don't see love as an
emotion. "in love" is, but love is something you have in your heart,
to share with the people that matter to you, regardless of what they
do or what they give in return. as a radio dj in my area said, love
never dies, but sometimes the loving ends. also, i don't see the "one
right person" bit. there are so many people in this world with so many
personalities, i find it impossible to believe that there is only one
person that is right for me. 
IMO love is something you have to share with as many people as you
can. i'm not talking commitment love. i believe in sharing a special
commitment with one person, someone to spend my life with. but love
comes in so many different forms, you can't direct ALL of your love at
just one person. you deny yourself so much that way. i dunno.
sometimes i scare my friends because i tell them i love them. at this
point in time, most of my closest friends are men and they think i
mean something else. i just try to tell them that they are important
to me. 

well, that's my life's philosophy! i'd love to hear how some of you
react to it. do you agree, disaggree, see a point that you think isn't
quite right? let me know! i'm interested in hearing responses!

lyra@camelot.bradley.edu
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: fsquared@eff.org (Fawn Fitter)
Subject: Re: what is love? (my $0.02)
Originator: fsquared@eff.org
Keywords: love
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:21:22 GMT

lyra@camelot.bradley.edu sez:

"love
comes in so many different forms, you can't direct ALL of your love at
just one person. you deny yourself so much that way. "


And I agree wholeheartedly.

My best friend in all the world is male and I make a point of telling him
I love him at any and every opportunity.  He understands.

I tell all my close friends, of both sexes, that I love them.  They 
understand.

I think carefully before I say those words -- "I love you" -- because for
me, they aren't a throwaway phrase.  They imply a committment I've made,
not a committment to the people I love, but a promise to myself that I will
show the utmost tenderness and concern for their well-being.  If I can't
guarantee that to myself, I will not say the words that mean to me that I've
guaranteed it to them.  But carefulness notwithstanding, I still try to say it as often as possible...

Love divided is love multiplied!  The more you give out, the more you have
to give.
From: mlinda@novell.com (M'Linda Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: The Scariest Words In The World?
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:23:20 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc., Austin, TX.

In article <1992Dec14.201800.2500@dct.ac.uk> mcsbc2msd@dct.ac.uk (El thicko) writes:
>
>	Scariest I have heard:-
>	When you say to someone 'I love you'
>	'Thats nice.....'
>

How about:

       "I think I have a problem"
       You ask what the "problem" is and they say
       "I think I'm falling in love with you"

       Gee, I really *hate* to be a "problem".

       Or......

       I *really do* love you but...........

       Ungh....

       M'Linda

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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: robinsonm@clvax1.cl.msu.edu (Admiral Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Signs
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:55:46 GMT
Reply-To: robinsonm@clvax1.cl.msu.edu
Organization: Starfleet Command - Terran Empire
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4

This has probably been chewed up in this newsgroup a bit before, 
but as I was out recruiting Andorians for the blood circuit, I 
missed it.  My kwestshun is:

   Is there any kind of a signal, that cannot be mistaken for 
friendship, that lets one know that it just might be OK if you 
took the plunge with someone.  My readership of signs is way 
heinous simply because I am now quite uncertain what is meant to 
be just touchy feely friendly and what is meant to be "if you 
don't get over here soon....."

   This will give some folks something to do over the holidays.

Merry Christmas and all that stuff....
* Robinson

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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: stone@cwis.unomaha.edu (Travis Stone)
Subject: Re: Let's Make the World a More Loving Place
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:35:41 GMT

dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley) writes:

>I hope Travis is using "European" in the "continental European" sense.
>The Frenchies, etc. are certainly well into hugging, but us Brits are well
>at arms length.

Indeed I was.  I assumed that folks would know I meant "continental
European" when I said "European"---but this is a good lesson on being
explicit in making future posts.  Thanks, Stewart!

>Thank heavens too. Count me in for the "minimal hugs" crowds. It's
>*wonderful* between lovers, and quite nice between close friends (when
>the person I'm hugging is female :-)), but that's as far as it goes, IMHO.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oh, dittos---BIG dittos here.  I couldn't agree more with you, Stewart.


T.R. Stone

Xref: sparky alt.romance:15334 alt.romance.chat:21979
From: smith@wesson.Eng.Sun.COM (Nina S. Smith - SunSoft Product Marketing)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Please . . . No More!!  I Won't Try it at Home! (Was: Re: More Do Not try this at home)
Date: 16 Dec 1992 17:21:04 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: smith@wesson.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: wesson

In article 11370@sequent.com, rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.115120.1@cc.uvcc.edu> brownea@cc.uvcc.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Dec11.191651.10925@sequent.com>, rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:


	( Drivel about doors and drawers deleted )
 
Alright already!!!

-- Nina






Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: stone@cwis.unomaha.edu (Travis Stone)
Subject: Now, This is a Tricky One...(Help, please!)
Keywords: What would YOU suggest?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:56:45 GMT



This is a rather complicated and tricky question that I'd appreciate
answers to---if you folks can (or would, please) oblige me...

Say that thre's this gal I'd like to get to know better;  I'd like
to sorta hint my intentions to her, but I'm not sure how---or even
if that's a good idea in the first place.  I haven't any experience
at this sort of thing, so I'd like to know---from both the approachers
(the guys) and the approachees (ladies, can you help me out here?)---
how do I approach this gal and show interest in her so as not to
offend her, or scare her off?  What could I say, or do?

Oh, and while you're all in a generous advisory mood:  Ladies, how
do you feel about getting flowers?  How soon is TOO soon?  What
kind?

Information!  I need information!

Thanks in advance, people....

...T.R. Stone

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: More, Do Not try this at home .....
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:07:13 GMT

In article <15884@auspex-gw.auspex.com>, johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
> In article <1992Dec14.173735.8755@b8.b8.ingr.com> larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:
> >In article <Bz3nLt.95G@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, epperson@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Mary) writes:
> |> 
> |> And it was soooo much fun watching these two do ManlyMenStuff...that's
> |> what those muscles are for guys... *grin*
> |> 
> |> Mary
> |
> |Damn!  I thought they were for sweeping women off their feet.  :)
>  
> and you if you can do it with "that" muscle you're going to be really
> popular.
> 

Well I might be able to with a little more pratice.

> -- 
> +==========================================================================+
> | John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
> | johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
> +==========================================================================+

Larry