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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Saturday night COPS on FOX
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:26:37 GMT

In article <BxvIpt.Gnw@tridom.com> alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming) writes:
>In article <9707@vtserf.cc.vt.edu>, ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
>> 
>> At least my mother claims to have known people personally that lost legs
>> in motorcycle accidents.  Of course the fact that those accidents occured
>> in the 1930s and probably involved open case primaries isn't relevant to her.
>>
>*I* know someone that lost a leg on a bike.  A car pulled out of a side street
>(the exit of a Hospital) and rammed his early 80s model VF-750 Interceptor
>on the right side.  He was carried straight into the emergency room, but 

Well, _I_ know someone who lost a leg as the result of an auto accident.
Seems she was crossing the road, age 12, when some drunk in a Model A
ran her down.  Bonesetting and general surgical techniques were somewhat
less sophisticated then, though it's not clear things would have been different
today.  Oh, the accident happened sometime in the 1930's.  She lost
her leg sometime in the 1970's, because of the earlier accident.  Every
3 years or so she has minor back surgery to desensitize a nerve that
gets unbearable painful.  I daresay if Lucille had an inclination to learn
to ride, she'd do it, though she'd be more likely to get a bike with a sidecar,
so she'd have a place to carry her wheelchair.  She certainly won't let
anyone tell her she can't do anything...

It's all the same old thing.  You can die a horrible, painful death walking
down the street, or riding a motorcycle, or any of a thousand other things.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Date: 19 Nov 1992 18:55:49 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article uoVguB1w165w@ziggys.cts.com, cobra@ziggys.cts.com 619/262-6384 (Ron Lee) writes:
>
>The problem seems to be that the Insurance Lobbies have finally passed 
>this law when it really wasn't necessary to make it a state legal issue.
>The insurance companies could easily have resolve WITHIN their industry 
>that people who don't wear helmets pay a higher premium; or that people 
>who get caught in an accident without a helmet don't get their 
>settlements, or get lower settlements.

Sure, *IF* that was their motivation.

The insurance industry doesn't care much about motorcyclists
themselves, for the same reason EPA doesn't, we're noise to them.  The
insurance industry *is* aware that in >75% of automobile-motorcycle
accidents, the automobile is determined to be at fault.  They are aware
of payments made on *automobile* insurance policies to injured
motorcyclists.  They are also aware of the *fact* that in every state
that has instituted helmet laws, the number of motorcycles on the road
has decreased.

Draw your own conclusions as to why they push so hard for helmet laws,
but I for one do not believe it is because of the cost to them of
unhelmeted injured motorcyclists.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:47:08 GMT
Subject: Re: What would you ride on a long distance trip?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

Re: The long ride-

R100GS or R100GS/PD.   


(I can't believe you had to ask.......)

Ron Miller
From: terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Thanx! (WAS:Please respond (I suspect something is wrong!!!))
Keywords: Thank u
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:28:55 GMT
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA

In article <i3423.721641792@newsie>, bobby@dc.dk (Bobby Billingsley) writes:
> I knew you were a helpful lot (when you want to be ;-) )

Don't push it pal!

Terry


-- 
 | Terry Cunningham terry@rsi.prc.com | "You got, ahh say you got it all     |
 | DoD# 541   'Debunkers of Dogma'    |  wrong son"      Foghorn Leghorn     |
 | HIFI#                              |                                      |
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From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Passenger Clothing (how fascist are YOU?)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:27:07 GMT

In article <Bxno17.4F8@fulcrum.co.uk> rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor) writes:
|
|The story doesn't matter - the moral does. And that is it's the responsibility
|of the rider/owner to make sure the passenger has the choice of dressing
|protectively. If the passenger doesn't want to wear protective clothing, then
|that's their choice.  *But* give them the choice. The first thing that people
|say when I offer them a go on the back is "Bikes are dangerous". I placate them
|with the offer of protective clothing, then most will accept a ride.  It shows
|you've considered them, and that you probably aren't a loony slaughterer of
|innocent passengers.

I look at it a little differently.  If someone is not a regular passenger or
a motorcyclist in his own right, he hasn't the experience to make an informed
decision.  Now, that in itself is not a good enough reason to infringe on
someone's right to ride at any risk level they choose.  What really makes the
difference is that *I* am *responsible* for their safety.  No matter how you
feel about individual rights, the fact is that the driver is responsible in
LARGE part for the safety of the passengers.  As long as I have the responsiblity,
I also have the responsiblity to INSURE the safety of my passengers as much
as I can.  That means that the rider wear's at LEAST as much protective
equipment as myself.  (That is, if I have one helmet and Miss Perfect want's
a ride NOW, I will forgo the helmet myself, and any other safety equipment
that I can, in favor of dressing up Miss Perfect.  If M.P. wants to continue
to ride with me, she can use my pillion equipment, or get her own.)

Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905  DoD #0330  COG 939  (Chicago)   |   -- Evo Woman
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From: patlo@microsoft.com (Pat Loughery)
Subject: Re: Saturday night COPS on FOX
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:02:31 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In article <1992Nov15.220906.1844@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com wrote:
> In article <RTARAZ.92Nov14211852@bigwpi.WPI.EDU> rtaraz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes:
> }I might want to stop riding my bike.  I have always though about the
> }possibility of getting into an accident and losing some body parts,
> }but it is different when you see it happen!
> 
> When I was a skydiver I was constantly amazed at the deaths of
> experienced skydivers who just (apparently) didn't pay enough attention
> to what they were doing, and then panicked when things got tight.
> They can't afford to get lax, and neither can we. Keep the concentration
> high, skills honed, and you'll stand a better chance.

Agreed.  Fortunately, skydiving and motorcycling are voluntary activities.  
You can always decide either to drive a cage or stop jumping out of perfectly
good airplanes - that's your right.

My ~20 year old cousin is an avid skydiver, works at a jump shop and everything.
His two close calls are these:

- Took his new girlfriend up into the plane with him so she could watch him
jump.  Forgot to buckle the horizontal strap that holds the shoulder straps 
on your shoulders.  Fortunately, a buddy saw the mistake as they were in 
freefall and placed one shoulder strap back on his shoulder and buckled him 
up.  Think with your brain.

- A few weeks ago he tried a buddy's chute.  This was one of the rectangular
sport chutes that give greater maneuverability than the round ones he normally
used when he jumped.  He apparently flared at the wrong time and spiraled into 
the ground, crushing his femur.  He's in a cast now, learning how to walk
again.  Think with your brain.

After this wreck, he's going through rehab so he can get back in the sky, 
a goal which is obviously pissing off a lot of family members.  Though I haven't 
(yet) skydived, I can sure understand where he's coming from.  He *loves* 
to jump.

You have to face the risks and make your own mature decision.  There's no 
reason at all why you have to keep riding if it scares you, or why you should
give up riding if you love it.  

Think with your brain.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
            Pat Loughery [patlo@microsoft.com] Seattle, WA
               '91 Nighthawk CB750 - DoD #393, AMA, VME
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"I had no shoes and I pitied myself. Then I met a man who had no feet,
                so I took his shoes."   -- Dave Barry
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Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:39945 sci.physics:19326
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: Handling Problems - HELP!
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:42:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.175907.2359@bradford.ac.uk> S.J.E.Champion@bradford.ac.uk (SJE CHAMPION) writes:
>
>I have an MZ TS250/1 Supa 5 ( don't laugh ). A month ago I put a new
>back tyre on ( and a new inner tube, too ), and ever since then
>the handling's gone from bad ( i.e. new ) to absolute shite. The
>front end has developed a weave when accelerating between 20-30mph,
>and it slides everywhere when I take even the slightest corners.
>It's Not the tyre pressures. It's Not the wheel alignment.
>The tread on the back tyre is straight. The tread on the front is good.
>
>What the bloody hell is going on ? Someone please advise, 'cos I can't
>take much more bussing about!
>
>Slimey
>
>S.J.E.Champion@Bradford.ac.uk

   Well, after many mistakes, I've finally learned the following lesson:

       When you do something to a piece of machinery and experience a sudden
   drastic decline in performance, don't waste your time and complicate matters
   by trying to compensate with a bunch more changes. If possible, return 
   said machine to it's previous state as a sanity check. If operation returns
   to pre-fucked-with-it performance, you know where the problem lies. If not,
   figure out what else you may have screwed up along the way. From your above
   description, it sounds like you got a shit tire. Does it say something like
   Nankang or Cheng-shin on the sidewall perchance? 

      Jeff Achenbach
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: weaver@castor.cs.uga.edu (Mike Weaver)
Subject: Yamaha Vision Starter Needed Badly!!!!!!!!!
Originator: weaver@castor
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:23:04 GMT


The starter on my vision cannot be repaired further. 

I NEED a starter for this beast. The new starter cost $300+ GASP!

I need ya'll to poke around and see if you have or can get a starter
for a 1982 Vision 550.

And, If you are local or will be at the RCR, I'll pop for dinner or beer
to whomever gets me this holy grail of MC parts.


I now return you to your reularly scheduled flaming.
-- 
________________________________________________________________________________
Michael Weaver            | Never expect the computer to be smart.
weaver@castor.cs.uga.edu  | Assume it is stupid and let it surprise you.
DoD#0529   KotGB          | 1982 Yamaha Vision 550 -- Needs carb syncing
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Squash or slide? (Kill switches)
From: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 15:08:11 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Robert Smits

<U11303@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

> I didn't manage, had no idea I would have to. But I don't think hitting the
> kill switch is top priority. The bike isn't going any where on it's side
> (once it stops sliding).  Unless you are worried about explosions. It would
> most likely stall anyway. If I had time to consider using the kill switch,
> I could try to straighten the bike up to avoid the low-side in the first plac
> 
> I do use the kill switch, however, for rolling into the driveway late at nigh
> Or at other times when convenient.
> 
> --------
> Mark Komosa       u11303@uicvm.uic.edu        DoD #0791        CB700SC


No, it probably won't go anywhere (unless the throttle gets stuck open). 
It might, however, do serious damage to the engine if it runs without 
oil, or gets ground off cases mixed into the oil system while it's 
running.


Robert Smits Ladysmith BC  | I don't wanna pickle,
emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca      | just wanna ride my motorsickle - AG
From: marrevola@rediris.es
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: best tires for wet
Date: 20 Nov 92 09:20:30 +0100
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: REDIRIS, Red Nacional de I+D

In article <Nov.18.17.08.58.1992.159@presto.ig.com>, steve@presto.ig.com (Steve Barnhouse) writes:
> 
> OK tire gurus -- I want some factoids and opinions.  I have a beemer
> GS and it's ready for a new rear tire.  Currently, I have Pirelli
> dual-purpose tires on, MT 50's or 60's (I forget).  Winter is coming
> to No Cal which means rain, and since I'll be commuting in the Santa
> Cruz mountains, it means wet roads with lots of redwood droppings
> making things slippery. 
> 
> Which tire is best for wet slippery paved roads?  I'm thinking of
> putting Chen Sins on.  (NO, just kidding!)  I'm thinking of putting a
> Metzler ME 88 on the rear and leaving the Pirelli dp tire on the
> front.  Should I also put a street tire on the front -- maybe a
> Metzler ME 33?  Or do you think a dp tire on the rear would give me
> better traction on wet pavement?
> 
> Thanks,
> --steve                                          steve@presto.ig.com

Michelin A-M-89 are superb for wet pavement. I hardly recommend them (I don't
know if there are sizes for your GS).

manolo@taf.fundesco.es
ZX-11
DR-600-S
DoD #1033
From: harmons@.WV.TEK.COM (Harmon Sommer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Indian???? BSA???
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:30:40 GMT
Reply-To: harmons@mithril.WV.TEK.COM (Harmon Sommer)
Organization: /usr/ens/etc/organization

>(British Small Arms).

Birmingham Small Arms?
From: cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Cervi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Moto-Guzzi project.
Date: 22 Nov 92 19:32:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NSWC, Carderock Div. Det., Annapolis Facility

In article <1992Nov19.235711.23194@ncar.ucar.edu> southern@sunny.cgd.ucar.edu (Lawrence Buja) writes:
>After wanting a Moto-Guzzi for years, I finally went and bought one up
>last night.

Congratulations on your recent purchase.

>So, can anyone recommend any sources in the US for either new or used
>Moto-Guzzi parts?  Does anyone have a V50 parts bike?  And is there a
>national club?

  Moto Guzzi National Owners Club
  Frank Wedge, Director
  P.O. Box 98
  Olmitz, Kansas  67564
  phone 316-586-3275
  fax   316-586-3277

  dues - single $23/42/58 1/2/3 years
	 couple $25/45/60 1/2/3 years

  Welcome to the club.

I used to have a '75 850T Moto Guzzi. I bought it new and drove it for 
about 55,000 miles.  I now have an '87 SP-II (1000cc) Guzzi which I 
bought six months ago. The 850T was a lot of fun to drive and a good
tourer.  I went all over the USA and Canada.

The National club has a "Tips" book that will help you maintain your
bike.  MOTO AMERICA, Lillington, NC is the importer.  Several parts
suppliers advertise in the national magazine.

-- 
	Mark Cervi, CARDEROCKDIV, NSWC Code 2752, Annapolis, MD  21402
		   cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil, (w) 410-267-2147
From: marcl@os-d.isc-br.com (H. Marc Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: GTS1000A video clip
Keywords: GTS1000A
Date: 20 Nov 92 03:28:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

The TV show `Motorcycle Madness' on Prime Sports Network just ran a short
clip of promo video showing the GTS1000A.  The bike was ridden into a
display area, and parked.  Then a guy showed, rather ineptly, some of the
features.  Most interesting to me was he showed the front wheel turning
lock-to-lock, and it wasn't as restricted as I would have thought (certainly
better than my '80 Ducati 900SS).

The official Yamaha promo video (which many dealers have & run on their
in-store VCRs) is much better, as far as showing what the bike looks like on
the road and in traffic.

--
H. Marc Lewis                 |  Phone: (509) 927-5480
ISC-Bunker Ramo Corp.         |  e-mail: marcl@hela.ISC-BR.COM
22425 E. Appleway Ave.        |  or:  ...!uunet!isc-br!hela!marcl
Liberty Lake, WA 99019-9534   |  "Nature bats last..."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven J Orlin)
Subject: Re: what is Too Much Power?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:09:49 GMT


DON'T SAY THAT!!!!  YOU CAN NEVER HAVE ENOUGH!!!!!  ARRRRRRRR!!!!!
-- 

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                   sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
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From: bobby@dc.dk (Bobby Billingsley)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: High speed in USA?
Date: 18 Nov 92 08:04:44 GMT
Organization: Datacentralen A/S

datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:

>One of the funniest things I ever saw on a motorway was a caterpillar made up
>of about eight or nine snowcat thingies (you know the things, white painted
>cab things on caterpillar tracks) fastened together and doing about forty-
>five MPH.  Coming back from work in the evening, on the same stretch of that
>motorway (M3) I was buzzed by a Spitfire!  A week later it was by a Fokker
>Triplane!  A very exciting stretch of tarmac, I can tell you.


Have you been "doing the Time Warp" ???????


>Nick (the Reminiscent Biker)  MAG 73516   DoD 1069   Janes Aircraft, 1943


>M'Lud.  "Roger, Green-three.  Bandits at four o clock, attacking now!"  Zoooom
-- 
:   Bobby Billingsley                   : Remember to love while you dare to   :
:   Datacentralen, Denmark              : remember to live while you do so     :
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: schludermann@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Subject: Wanted parts for 1974 suzuki GT380
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:56:11 GMT

  A buddy of mine with no net acces needs the following for a 1974 suzuki
GT380. Front caliper piston or even whole assembly, misc emblems, rear 
break switch, and a good front rotor. You can email to me or call him
directly at 512-452-3640 (Dean)

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: hogan@conch.cis.ohio-state.edu (christopher hogan)
Subject: Re: Slip-sliding away (was Re: What would you ride...)
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:48:18 GMT

In article <arturo.722208843@infmx> arturo@informix.com (Arturo Vega) writes:
>alex@lyra.colorado.edu (Alex Matthews) writes:
>
>>"You are riding your bike in a straight line.  Is your front wheel rotating
>>about its hub, or about its contact point with the road, or both, or
>>neither?"


I think it'd be fairly interesting to see a bike's front tire rotate around
its contact patch while riding in a straight line.  Would that be "riding", or
"oscillating?".


Chris Hogan
DoD #0736
hogan@hell

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: harsh@eceris.ece.ncsu.edu (Harsh Potlapalli)
Subject: For Sale: 83 Nighthawk 650
Summary: bike for sale 
Organization: North Carolina State University, Raleigh
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:46:10 GMT

I am trying to sell my current ride, a 1983 Honda Nighthawk
CB650SC. (it's time to get a new bike).

The bike is in excellent condition. I have changed the oil every 
1000 miles. Current odometer reading is 32K miles. It has a couple
of neat gadgets like a digital gear position indicator and fuel
gauge. The engine has automatic cam chain tensioners and also has 
hydraulic lifters == no valve adjustments! Highway mileage is 50 mpg, 
city mileage is 45 mpg.

I would like to get around $750 for it (including helmet, cover and
shop manual). I can deliver the bike anywhere between Atlanta/DC
and Knoxville/Wilmington.

Please reply to harsh@eceris.ece.ncsu.edu. Thanks.

-harsh


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: johnr@mik.uky.edu (John S. Roberts, Jr.)
Subject: Both Brakes Don't Work!
Reply-To: johnr@mik.uky.edu (John S. Roberts, Jr.)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:15:46 GMT

I have an '85 Shadow 500cc and both breaks on it do not function properly.   
The rear brake pedal sticks whenever I press it down.  I have tried putting  
liquid wrench on it, but I haven't done it for any length of time and have  
not seen any improvement in performance.  Also, whenever I am riding at slow  
speeds I can hear the front break squeeking.  Any ideas on fixing either  
problem?

John

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu (Kyle Cassidy)
Subject: i can't believe i'm getting into this (was RE: HELMETS)
Organization: Rowan College of New Jersey
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 22:14:10 GMT

i don't even know why i'm bothering to say this because everybody's mind is 
already made up and this has been hashed out about a million times in the 
last two weeks alone -- no one's gonna care what i think anyway, but last 
night after reading about a zillion posts in this thread i went home and put 
on my shoi rf-200 and actually _looked_ around and the result of my 
experiment lead me to conclude that the loss of vision is _insignificant_. i 
was _aware_ of a black rim around my field of vision, but it wasn't blocking 
anything that i could have seen anyway....

there we go, my $.02 worth that no one's gonna care about.

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cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu
DoD #760				"fire all of your guns at once!"
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