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From: wmack@en.ecn.purdue.edu (William J Mack)
Subject: (F) Lowering the ph, softening the water...
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 20:53:46 GMT

Another distilled water question again.  Does anyone see any pitfalls using
DW mixed in with my conditioned tap water when doing water changes in order to
aquire softer water with a lower pH in the tank.  My pH is about 7.8+ and the
water is hard  (I dont know the exact hardnesses).  When I tested the DW, it
gave 6.6.  I guess what I really want to do is to lower my tap waters buffering
capacity, since getting the pH down is not as easy as just adding some pH down.
Would using peat in my aquaclear be a better idea?  Any comments or suggestions
would be appreciated.  Thanks

-- 
Bill Mack                        "If you expect me to be an expert on the
School of Electrical Engineering  fundamentals while I'm asking a fundamental
Purdue University                 question....then fine, I'll pretend to be one"
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: nclennan@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu (Neil F. Clennan)
Subject: Re: Green Water
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 16:03:55 EST
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Nov9.202243.20423@mercury.cair.du.edu> vchow@diana.cair.du.edu  
(VICTOR CHOW) writes:
> My water is green :-( !
> 
> So initially i bought one reagent to make the water clear.
> Didn't solve.
> 
> Then, i bought the green water tablets.
> It killed my plecostomus, due to algae starvation, i guess.
> 
> The shop told me that i probavly have suspended algae. And she recommended
> to buy a diatom filter, which would plish the water making it clear.
> 
> Is this the only solutuion and can it work?
> 
> What you guys think? 

I had this problem.  I tried shutting out the light, reducing feeding,
but decided I didn't want to try thr algae poisons.  I borrowed my
friends diatom filter and it cleaned it up completely in under an
hour.  Hasn't returned either.

--
Neil Clennan
nclennan@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu
From: tgrupe@watnxt11.ucr.edu (Todd E. Grupe)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Berkeley's Naked Guy
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:47:29 GMT

In article <1dovmoINNpho@network.ucsd.edu> middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom  
Middleton ; System Manager) writes:
> I heard a radio news report that U.C. Berkeley made a rule against  
nudity
> because of complaints about the naked guy.  One report I heard that I  
wish
> someone could confirm or disprove is that he was spending time hanging
> around the womens dorm areas at night.  Implication being that he was  
not
> just passing through on his way from point A to point B and that was  
what
> was causing most of the complaints.  Anyone know about this?

	I just got back from the Quad-S (Society for the Scientific Study  
of Sex) Conference in San Diego, where one of the lecture topics was  
nudism across different cultures.  They had had a last-minute  
cancellation, and so invited Andrew Martinez (aka The Naked Guy) to give a  
talk.  He made a very rational and convincing case for public nudism.  He  
talked about his own public nudity as a protest against various social  
forces, including the capitalist tendency to create need in people (such  
as the need to buy the latest fashionable clothes), the European cultural  
imperialism that tells people the naked body is offensive and should be  
covered up at all times, and the myth of hypermasculinity in black men --  
as close as I can remember, his quote was, "I can combat the stereotype of  
black men as having big dicks and being super-masculine, since I don't  
have a big dick."
	The audience had an almost unanimously positive reaction to his  
talk; I just wish the general population (or at least the administrative  
farts at Berkeley) were as open-minded.

TG   Lost in Southern California Hell
--
tgrupe@watserv.ucr.edu

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Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: steve@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (Steve Pierce)
Subject: Free Beach Etiquette
Followup-To: poster
Summary: Naturists "rules" of etiquette for CO Beach and park users
Supersedes: <frbeeq_9208150000@rtfm.mlb.fl.us>
Organization: We don't need no stinkin' batches!
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 02:47:39 GMT
Expires: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:00:00 GMT

                          FREE BEACH ETIQUETTE
===============================================================================
Many people will insist that rules for proper behavior are not necessary since
any decent or intelligent person should know how to act.  On the other hand,
naturist organizations constantly contact unfamiliarized individuals.  We want
to leave no doubt as to what kind of people are advocates of clothes-optional
recreation!  Yes, naturists are nice people and we aim to keep it that way!

        + STAY OUT OF DUNES and other environmentally sensitive areas.

        + OBEY PARKING REGULATIONS and other posted rules.

        + HELP ELIMINATE LITTER by bringing along a trash bag.  Carry out more
                than you brought in.

        + DON'T GO OUT OF TRADITIONAL ESTABLISHED NUDE AREAS.  To wander nude
                into a clothed beach or parking area will offend many people
		who have equally viable options for beach recreation.  It
                undermines our objectives to cause an unnecessary confrontation.

        + NO OVERT SEXUAL ACTIVITY.  Leave this activity for the privacy of
                your home.  Nude is not lewd, but combined with sex, undermines
		our image.

        + RESPECT THE PROPERTY OF OTHERS.  And this includes Mother Nature's
		property, too!

        + ASK PRIOR CONSENT FOR PHOTOGRAPHY.  You cannot legally stop someone
                from taking pictures in public places.  However, asking per-
                mission is common courtesy.  Not everyone wants to end up in a
                stranger's photo album.  Parents should also be asked before
                children are photographed.

        + PRIVACY IS FUNDAMENTAL!  Many are at the beach for quiet time and
                don't want to be disturbed.  It is not wrong to go to the beach
                to make new friends -- but it is rude to monopolize a person's
                time when the welcome mat was never put out.

        + COME PREPARED.  Bring beach supplies -- beverage, food, chair,
                sunscreen, and towel.  Don't expect others to share these items.
                Mooching is offensive.

        + SPEAK UP FOR STANDARDS.  If a person seems unaware of beach etiquette,
                explain it, kindly and plainly.  Give them a copy of "FREE
                BEACH ETIQUETTE".  Don't let uncouth individuals ruin our
                fragile and beautiful place under the sun.
-- 
======================================================================
Steve Pierce             Palm Bay
steve@rtfm.mlb.fl.us     Florida
      Space Coast Naturists, PO Box 560086, Rockledge, FL 32956-0086
From: bpwing@phoenix.princeton.edu (Ben Wing)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Date: 18 Nov 92 11:10:19 GMT
Subject: X-Plicit Players, Sat. Nov 14
Organization: Princeton University
X-Subliminal-Message: You can quit reading news anytime you want.

I went to see the "Act of Intimacy" put on by the X-Plicit Players on
Saturday November 14th.  It was at New College in the Mission district
in San Francisco.  I have to say it was one of the most wonderful
experiences of my life ...  it's left me feeling happy all over for
days afterward.  Wharfie gave a pretty good description of what actually
happened, though I can't really describe the feelings in words, or
the look on the players' faces towards the end.  I just think, anybody who
found the description of it to be interesting and not off-putting should
seriously try to go in the future ...

(and stay past the beginning.  Someone [was it Lisa from Hampshire
College?] said "lots of people left early and said it was boring".  At
first it was indeed kind of boring, and also there's tension in the air.
There's a big audience, all clothed, sitting around, while a few naked
cast members lie around and the leader, Debbie, walks around reciting
strange words into a microphone over a soundtrack of sparse Eastern-ish
music and similar strange words.  This goes on for awhile, and once you
get over the naked bodies (painted with big stylized lips :-), it's
relatively uninteresting, esp. if you think this is it.  But just wait
an hour or so ...)

ben
--

"Can't we all just get along?"
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: "robert levita" <robert.levita@canrem.com>
Subject: france
Reply-To: "robert levita" <robert.levita@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:48:57 EST

You won't find a Hilton near Cap Agde, but you can take the train there
from Paris.  the stop at Agde is quick and direct 10 minute bus ride, or
a five minute cab ride.
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: Richard.Mathews@West.Sun.COM (Richard M. Mathews)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: nude-utah?
Date: 18 Nov 1992 23:05:11 GMT
Organization: Sunsoft Inc., Los Angeles, CA.
NNTP-Posting-Host: astro
Originator: richard@astro.West.Sun.COM

nikita@russia (John R. Hardy) writes:

>Is there anywhere in Utah, besides my apartment that is for nudists?

From "Hot Springs and Hot Pools of the Southwest":

OGDEN HOT SPRINGS
East of the city of Ogden

Small, primitive hot spring in a river gorge subject to annual flooding.
Elevation 4,800 ft.  Open all year.

Natural mineral water flows out of a spring at 130 degrees and through
a pipe to a volunteer-built, rock-and-mud pool at the water's edge.
The temperature is controlled by diverting the flow when desired.  The
apparent local custom is clothing optional.

There are no services available on the premises.

Directions: From I-15 in Ogden, go east 14 miles on UT 39 to the mouth
of Ogden Canyon.  The pool is 100 feet upstream from the water pipe
suspended far above.  Parking is upriver just past where the river
crosses under the road for the first time.

STINKY SPRINGS
West of the town of Brigham City

A small partly vandalized cement-block bathhouse alongside a highway
in the flat country north of the Great Salt Lake.  Elevation 4,000 ft.
Open all year.

Natural mineral water flows out of a spring at 118 degrees, through a
culvert under the highway, and into three cement soaking pits in the
abandoned building.  Temperature within each pool is controlled by
diverting the hot-water flow as desired.  In recent years volunteers
have kept the surrounding party trash to a minimum, but the water does
have a sulfur-dioxide smell.  The apparent local custom is clothing
optional within the building.

There are no services available on the premises.

Directions: From I-15, take the Golden Spike exit, then go nine miles
west through Corrine on UT 83.  The building is on the south side of
the road shortly before you reach Little Mountain, a rocky hill on the
north side of the road.

[a picture shows a really run down looking shack with the caption "No
one knows why the block house was built, or how it survives, but it
continues to provide free soaks every day."]

    Richard M. Mathews			 Freedom for Lithuania
Richard.Mathews@West.Sun.COM		        Laisve!
From: middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: nude beaches in LA?
Date: 20 Nov 1992 19:43:46 GMT
Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD
NNTP-Posting-Host: poincare.ucsd.edu

In article <1992Nov19.195629.12591@cheshire.oxy.edu> dementia@cheshire.oxy.edu (Daniel Steven Reinker) writes:
>Anyone know of any good nudist beaches in Los Angeles?
>There's got to be at least one.

Well, unfortunately there hasn't got to be at least one.  L.A. County
does have an ordinance against public nudity.  Thus any nude beach in
L.A. County would be against the law.  HOWEVER, I have heard there is
a Pirates Cove or Smugglers Cove (the same place, might even have a few
other names) somewhere on Palo Verde Peninsula.

The Camping Bares have been know to go to Catalina Island and liberate
isolated beaches.  It would seem that with all the trouble we go through
to get there (almost 2 hour ferry to the island followed by about 1 hour
on a bus across the island to the back side) we wouldn't have a problem.
However, the last time we were there someone complained and we got a letter
from the Parks Superintendent letting us know we were in violation of L.A.
Countys anti-nudity ordinance.  No charges were filed but we were told to
take our nude activities elsewhere.

-- 
===============================================================================
Thomas Earl Middleton		| Camping Bares:  "An Anarchist Disorganization
aka Happy Bare			| Dedicated to the Destruction of the Fabric of
middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu	| Our Society"
From: bell@aussie.dec.com (Peter Bell)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Info on Rottnest Island (AUS) wanted
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:39:51 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <Bxo3Fu.4Ao@wang.com>, jop@wang.com (John Payne) writes...
>Hi, I will be in Perth WA towards the end of February and would like to stay
>on or near the nude beach area on Rottnest Island.
>Info in the world guide is a bit sketchy.  Does anyone know if there is a nude
>resort or other accomodation (such as B&B) near the nude beach, or anywhere
>else suitable on the island.  Tel No and any other info would be welcome.

According to "Bare Facts" Parakeet Bay is the nude beach (unofficial) on
Rottnest Is. I don't remember see any one nude there when I visited Rottnext
Is. many years ago, but that was before I was a regular nudist.

Rottnest Is. is very small you can bicycle around it in a few hours, so any
accomodation is near the beach.

regards,

Peter.
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: jmayson@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Mayson)
Subject: Drivin' with my shoes off.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 22:48:21 GMT


Just to throw my two cents in.  Way back in the mid-80's when I was
taking driver's ed over in Tampa our instructor told us that Florida
law does not require drivers wear shoes.  I remember him saying only
one state still does.  I think that state might have been Michigan,
but it could have easily been Ohio.  All I know is half the population
of each state is down here clogging up our roads.  I think it's time 
to attack Fort Sumter again.  :-)

BTW, any CO beaches in Central Florida (i.e. Cape Canaveral area)?

John


--
John Mayson - Test Engineer
Harris Electronic Systems
Melbourne (Melboring), Florida
jmayson@x102a.ess.harris.com   
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: "robert levita" <robert.levita@canrem.com>
Subject: berkeley's naked guy
Reply-To: "robert levita" <robert.levita@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:48:57 EST

To quote Jay Leno: "If the nude guy is really that serious, let's see
him transfer to the University of Minnesota."
As any nudist will tell you, there is a time and a place, and he's
doing it at the wrong place.
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: oleg@sblapis1.cs.sunysb.edu (Oleg Sokolsky)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: excitement
Date: 23 Nov 92 02:38:52 GMT
Organization: /u14/sr/oleg/.organization

jkroger@poblano.gac.edu (Jonathan F Kroger) writes:
> Question:  Do you think that the wide spread acceptance of public nudity  
> would decrease the excitement of sex?

I'm not completely sure what do you mean by excitement of sex. If you mean
individuals would become less interested in sex -- no, I don't think so.
It doesn't really matter how many naked people you see every day -- you get
excited by being close to the one you love, with or without clothes.

On the other hand, if you mean the place that sex occupies in our society:
something to be excited about, not  something really natural and commonplace,
then, I hope, this attitude will change eventually and acceptance of public
nudity will probably adhere to it.

Oleg

--

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                  | SUNY @ Stony Brook |   Artificial Intelligence?    |
oleg@cs.sunysb.edu|                    | - No, I prefer using natural. |
From: jeff@sousa.tay.dec.com (jeff bell)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Spring Fashion Update
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:08:29 GMT
Organization: Little to none

I was channel flipping the other day, when I came across a
program on high fashion.  In particular, it was discussing
trends for the next year, and predicted skimpier clothes
on the fashion show runways next spring.

As one of their pundits put it, "Skin is in."

I just thought you all might like to know that you will
be at the peak of fashion. %^)

-- 
-Jeff Bell                    "Aleph naught bottles of beer on the wall..."
 jbell@danger.enet.dec.com
From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: nude beaches in LA?
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:21:10 GMT
Organization: Unocal Corporation

In article <1992Nov19.195629.12591@cheshire.oxy.edu> dementia@cheshire.oxy.edu (Daniel Steven Reinker) writes:
>Anyone know of any good nudist beaches in Los Angeles?
>There's got to be at least one.
>Thanks for your time.

Not most because the highway goes close to beach in many places.
Also the park police are prudish.

Abalone Cove in Palos Verde.
San Onofre next to Camp Pendleton.
Blacks Beach north of San Diego.
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: gp@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Gerald Pulver)
Subject: Friends! BBS (in NYC)
Followup-To: rec.nude
Reply-To: Gerald Pulver <gp@columbia.edu>
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:30:02 GMT

Friends! is a conversation-oriented one-line bulletin board system
running in New York City since 1983. There are no networks, no programs 
to download and no GIFs. It is just a quiet friendly place that people
(generally adults, but no one is excluded) stop by for a chat (ie
leave & receive messages).

I recently had a very good time on vacation at a resort with much 
clothing-optional activity, and I figured that since I seemed to get
on well with the naturist/nudist (I'm still not sure of the distinction, 
if any) crowd down there, I might just open a naturist conference on my BBS
and see who might show up.

The board is available 24 hours a day at (718) 592-1095. There are no 
fees required.
From: gad@pencom.com (George Durden)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Trip Report - BlueBonnet Ranch
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:15:10 GMT
Reply-To: gad@pencom.com
Organization: Pencom Software

My wife and I seized the opportunity to take advantage of a beautiful
weekend this past weekend and stopped by the BlueBonnet Ranch just
outside of Fort Worth, Texas. We spent most of Sunday checking out
the ranch and relaxing. This was our first visit to BlueBonnet and
my wife's first visit to a landed club (other than Kiva). We had
our 9 month old daughter, Kerstin, with us. We had a great time.
The weather was sunny and 75 degrees. The ranch covers about 66
acres of rolling Texas hills and features a solar heated pool,
sauna, jacuzzi, and clubhouse. We met the propreitor, Charlie,
upon arrival and were immediately put to ease. He was very friendly
and made a definite effort to make sure that Cyndi was comfortable
with the surroundings while introducing us to others around the 
ranch. Once on our on, we took a short hike through a wooded area
on their nature trail and then headed for the jacuzzi. We had a very
relaxing afternoon and for the most part had the ranch to ourselves.
This being the offseason for them, there were very few guests by late
sunday afternoon. Cyndi and I both look forward to more nice weekends
so that we can check out more Texas CO sites and return to BlueBonnet.

--
		      George A. Durden			
		  	.5K EX Pilot
		       Unix Mercenary
DoD #0039	     "No Risk, No Rush"		CMRA #106
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato)
Subject: Re:  Christian nudes
Reply-To: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:04:30 GMT

I just checked in on this group after having been away for some time.  I stopped
reading and posting to the group because I was hounded about getting off topic
and expressing some views that group regulars considered taboo.  I'm glad to see
that since I've been gone you've been able to keep that sort of thing from
happening again.  Keep on keeping the group to just discussions of trips to nude
beaches!

Michael

--
Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
~18 kyu
Q16
NeXTMail appreciated
From: galster@plains.NoDak.edu (Dwight Galster)
Subject: TV's Hard Copy reports on nudism
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:45:44 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

The US TV program "Hard Copy" (ABC?) is adversing a segment tomorrow
(Thursday, 11/19/92) billed as "Everything you never wanted to know
about American nudism".  I may not get to watch it.  I hope somebody
posts a report! (Doesn't sound good)
From: Pat O'Brien <naturist@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:20 PST
Subject: TNS Offline til Nov. 29
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1457200037:000:402
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!naturist    Nov 16 12:20:00 1992


To All,
Just a note to mention that The Naturist Society and Naturist Action Committee
will be off line through the end of the month while we attend the Trade 
Assn. for Nude Recreation at Cypress in Fla. If you need or want to speak to 
someone with either organization or want to place an order, please call
414-426-5009 and someone will help you. Thanks. Any msgs left will be answered
Nov. 29.
Pat
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: excitement
From: jkroger@poblano.gac.edu (Jonathan F Kroger)
Date: 22 Nov 92 15:16:46 -0600

Question:  Do you think that the wide spread acceptance of public nudity  
would decrease the excitement of sex?
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: jmayson@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Mayson)
Subject: Re: Three Nude Guys
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 01:27:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.092524.6702@ericsson.se> etmhjvt@acrosby25.ericsson.se (Henk-Jan van Tuyl) writes:
>
>The Nude Guy From Berkeley even made the TV news here at the Netherlands.
>In my opinion it is surprising, that such a news item reaches Dutch TV. 
>The case reminds me of an event of one or two years ago, which only 
>reached a small local newspaper. The story is about as follows:
>
>Rotterdam, Three male students were arrested last weekend. Somebody phoned
>the police because the students were naked and walking over a car. 
>The students denied having walked over the car. They were put in cell (naked),
>allowing all (male and female) police officers to have a look
>at them. After a short period they were released; they had to walk back home.
>In the nude.

That's as bad as a story I heard several months ago.  A Florida woman
(somewhere in the Tampa Bay area I think) was arrested for swimming in
the Gulf of Mexico in the buff.  The police went in after her, cuffed her,
paraded her up the beach, tossed her in the squad car, and booked her
while she was still completely nude.  She's suing the police dept.

Sorry if this is old news to the net.  I've been without net access for
about nine months now.  The kind folks at the Univ. of Denver gave me a
login.

JOhn
--
John Mayson - Test Engineer
Harris Electronic Systems
Melbourne (Melboring), Florida
jmayson@x102a.ess.harris.com