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From: eastout@ugcs.caltech.edu (Eric A Stout)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: The art of getting fouled. Re: tOSU 69 - IU 96
Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:31:00 GMT
Organization: Caltech Undergraduate Computer Science
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In article <1993Jan25.220526.9504@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:
>
>Are you sure of this?  Do you know that they do this at IU?  Have you 
>attended any practices where Bobby is teaching players to look fouled? 
>I do not mean these questions in a confrontational manner, but I have 
>recently begun going to Arizona practices, and there has never been any 
>mention of anything like this.

It may not be explicit, but good players/players in good programs learn to look
for contact.  Especially in the style of offense IU plays, looking for a pass
to the post, or a cutter, or penetration to the basket, you bet they learn a
lot about "looking" like they got fouled, or perhaps more accurately, drawing
contact from the opponent as they put up a shot.  It'd be fairly stupid not to!
For a 70% free-throw shooter, getting fouled on a shot is worth an extra .7
points if he makes the shot, or 1.4 points if he misses.  You think the coach
doesn't teach them where the bread and butter comes from?
I personally went to perhaps the worst NCAA basketball school in the country,
Caltech (Div. III), and even OUR guys knew something about drawing fouls.
One guy, John Phillippakos (there may be an extra consonant in there...), had
what all of us on the team called "the Greek moves," for obvious reasons.
John was only 6'1" or so, but he'd catch the ball down low, give two big pump
fakes, and basically throw the ball out of bounds (maybe not quite that extreme
but that was the running joke), at which point the foul would be called and
John would be standing on the line shooting two.
So maybe you won't see Lute saying "Come on, look like you got hit!"  But in
one way or another, he's probably teaching them to draw the foul, real or
imaginary.

Eric A. Stout
eastout@ugcs.caltech.edu
From: sjc@cs.purdue.edu (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UMASS!!! over Temple ..... A Thriller !!!
Date: 21 Jan 1993 23:21:18 -0500
Organization: Department of Computer Sciences, Purdue University
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In-reply-to: rajain@ecs.umass.edu's message of 21 Jan 93 20:51:53 GMT

}} In article <19674.2b5f0ce9@ecs.umass.edu> rajain@ecs.umass.edu writes:
}} 
}} Hope Harper's return sparks a run for the Minutemen.....which they need
}} desperately...

Oh GaaRrrRrrRRrRYyyyY...

sjc@cs.purdue.edu                 Steve Chapin                 ...!purdue!sjc
               The effect of his affected accent affected her,
                  and effected a change in her affections.

       "A man has made at least a start on discovering the meaning of
       human life when he plants shade trees under which he knows full
                 well he will never sit."  (Elton Trueblood)
From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Cal whips UCLA's Butt
Keywords: 104-82 !
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:42:48 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1k4c8cINNf8l@lindy.Stanford.EDU>, lowood@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Henry Lowood) writes:
> As was Haskin the week before--I think.  Just goes to show that they are 
> clearly the best centers the conference has, and thus both will make the
 
But Arizona is undeafeated in Pac-10 play - OSU is not. 

> PAC-10 10 at the end of the year.  (Nobody has yet said whether it will be
> a 5 or 10 man team, so I'm assuming 10.)
I thought it was two 5 man teams - a "first team" and a second with some
honorable mentions or something...



			gln

> 
> Henry
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Subject: Re: #1 Student Section ? (Addition)
From: ghjelmstad@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:22:18 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

Of course the crowd has an effect!  The Blue Devils have a home record of well
over 80%.  Opposing players get rattled... especially if they aren't used to 
playing in a small gym with 4000 screaming students surrounding them.

Now I am not saying that DUke fans haven't been media-ized... They have, and I 
for one, don't think the media's version of Duke lives up to the real thing.  
Nor are the media-slut fans w/ faces who scream louder for the TV cameras a 
match for REAL fans.

Bottom line about Cameron, and why the fans take things so personally is that
they have been invited to be part of the team....  Thus, the front row seats; 
6th man persona; and the use of inclusive pronouns.  

Following Duke-Ga Tech game 1986 at Cameron... reporter asks Mark Price if Duke
fans were at all responsible for his sub-par performance  "Of course not" Price
responds... as he spills his drink all over the floor.

Players and Coaches agree... They would rather play somewhere else.


"It doesn't matter if you go 2-30... just as long as those two wins are against
Carolina"   -Jay Bilas,  1986 Blue Devil team (37-3)
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: 3 POINT SHOOTERS? Who are they?
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:06:28 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <matthew.727639052@base.cs.ucla.edu> matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher) writes:
>Where's UCLA's Mitchell Butler?
>
>Oh yeah, he's about 1-40 from 3-point land.
>
>That doesn't stop him from continuing to launch 'em though.
>
>I can hear him thinking, "Damn, I'll be out of that slump some day."
>He doesn't realize that to be in a slump, you have to have actually
>been good at some point.

Yep, one of the worst things to happen to UCLA this year was Butler making
his first 2 threes in the Arizona game. Ever since then he seems to think
he is Brad Holland or Montel Hatcher and is burping up threes left and
right. 4-13 against OSU(not all threes) is bad for anybody, but when you
are not a shooter to begin with, taking 13 shots on a bad night is almost
unforgivable.

However I hear in all seriousness that some NFL teams are looking at
Mitchell as a potential prospect/project, so maybe all that athletic
talent will not go to waste.




Russ Smith
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From: marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marek Lugowski)
Subject: Kansas skanks...
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:32:51 GMT

Well, I won't woof, because months ago I said IU was a fundamentally better
team than KU -- not to be mislead by the -5 pnt. outcome of the IU/KU game at
Indianapolis -- and, more importantly, that KU has a soft backbone, and a
gentleman called me an idiot.  Now the same gentleman is grinding KU into the
dirt one message north of this one.

This homecourt shaming is actually the very best thing that could have
happened to the pretty boys in silver and blue.

Had KU not gotten this little shock treatment, their insulated sense of
reality would have assured them of an early exit from the Tournament, which
might still happen.  At least now they have a fighting chance to get mean.

				-- Marek

P.s.  They still play uninterestingly, from a spectator's viewpoint, no
matter what they do.  However, they should make thier uninteresting shots
more often given the talent that they have.  49 is more like a really bad
night for Northwestern.



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From: wlmg3055@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William L. Myers)
Subject: Re: Wisconsin beats Ohio State!!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:51:58 GMT

saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:

>In article <1993Jan21.171426.8709@cbnews.cb.att.com> ddn@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.d.nason) writes:
>>
>>In terms of reaching the next level (winning a few on the road), me thinks
>>Wisconsin is still a year, and a Rashard Griffith, away.
	~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`	
                     >Perhaps, but Rashard isn't all they've gotten.  Apparantly
>Roberts guy from St. Anthony's HS in New Jersey (Hurley Sr.'s team) has had
>his stock/rating go way up.  A lot of Big East coaches are kicking
>themselves now, because they didn't recruit him very earnestly.  At worst,
>he is about as talented as Finley coming out of high school.  Darnell
>Hoskins has been having a great year at guard, and should easily be able to
>be a competent backup for Webster.
>-- 


If Rashard is like most Public League stars, (especially those who
have played for Landon Cox), all he'll be doing his first year 
is homework....

>Brian
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: K-Who?
Keywords: K-Who?  Tarheels #1
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:10:19 GMT
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Organization: Blue Riddle Productions

In article <C1Gz68.ABG@unccsun.uncc.edu> tecardwe@uncc.edu writes:
>
>UNC is #1   one buzzer beater loss
>Kansas #2   one blowout loss
>IU --- #3   two loses.
>
How soon we forget that Michigan also beat Kansas at that same tournament
in which they nipped UNC.

UNC     #1   one close loss to Mich.
Cinci.  #2   one loss to IU at IU (when Van Exel was visibly hurting)
IU      #3   close losses to Kansas & UK, beat Michigan in Ann Arbor
Mich.   #4   close loss to IU at home, loss to Duke at Duke
Kent.   #5   upset at Vandy, something else I'm forgetting
Kansas  #6   loss to Michigan, LBSU upset, beat OU at home
Duke    #7   hey, they're Duke.  Whatcha expect?

Beyond that is still anybody's call, I suppose.

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From: schmata@camelot.bradley.edu (Peter Stein)
Subject: Re: Womens' arenas???
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: 23 Jan 93 22:36:37 GMT

At Bradley the Lady Braves (?! Is this a misnomer or what?) play home games
at Robertson Mem. Fieldhouse while the Gentlemen Squaws play downtown at
the Peoria Civic Center. 

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From: burgin@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Robert Burgin)
Subject: Duke, UNC Games This Week
Summary: Who They Play
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:19:28 GMT

In article <1k2ekvINN6kf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner) writes:
>
>Kansas was blown out by Long Beach State.  Is this the biggest upset of the
>decade?

	Maybe.  The decade's young.

>Who is #1 now?  Depends on which of the other Elite 6 lose this week:  UK will
>play LSU and Florida at home, who do
>Michigan, UNC, IU, Duke play this week?

	UNC has Florida State at home and Wake Forest on the road.
	Duke has San Francisco at home and then Maryland on the
	road.  I dunno about them Big Ten schools.

	--rb
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Ohio State vs. Indiana Prophecy
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 24 Jan 93 17:44:46 CST

In article <C1CD3y.2H9@andy.bgsu.edu> (EZB) writes:
>
>The OSU-Indiana game will be quite a battle, however, the Bucks will come
>out on top.  The Buckeyes have one edge that will propell them to victory,
>he is Greg Simpson, two-time Mr. Basketball of Ohio.  He is from Lima and
>tomorrow will be his coming out party where he will score 35+ points!  This
>may seem to be a bold prediction, but you cannot control Greg Simpson, you
>can only contain him.  Bobby Knight will be on his knees praising the new
>god of basketball!!!!!!!! 

Gee, what's that sound?  I think it is Mr. "EZB" trying to eat crow.

Or was this an IU anti-woof plot?
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: v386mb4w@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (SCARECROW)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: CONFERENCES
Keywords: CONFERENCES
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:27:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Any early guesses as to which conference will send the most teams to the
tournament?  This not the same as which conference is the best.  Right now
I see 2 conferences "in the lead".  The ACC and Big 10(11) have four of the 
top teams (Duke, N.C., Indiana, & Michigan).  Duke has beaten UofM, but UofM 
has beaten N.C.  Michigan State is 20th or so -- and 7th in the Big 10(11).  
I'm sure the situation is similar in the ACC.  And, both these conferences 
have 6 or 7 teams ranked -- don't they? 
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From: exby@spot.Colorado.EDU (Doc Exby)
Subject: Re: ATTENTION ALL PENN STATERS-IMPORTANT!!!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:04:48 GMT

saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:

>But since it Doc making this post, my guess is that he doesn't like the
>game because Illinois always has sucked in women's hoops.  I bet if their
>team were decent, we wouldn't see this post.

ya know - I dont even know if the UofI has a womens basketball
team, much less care if they are any good.  I was too busy watching
the Flyin Illini stomp bobby k everytime he came to town.

>Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

::j

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From: istre@ricevm1.rice.edu
Subject: Re: Rice 67 Texas Tech 59
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:18:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.022114.18436@seas.smu.edu>
hopeman@seas.smu.edu (Jennifer Hopeman) writes:
 
>You probably meant Tynes instead of Peakes.  Peakes injured his foot early in
>the game and only played 5 or so minutes.  I was listening to the game on a
>Tech radio station and they didn't say anything more about his injury.  Does
>anyone know how serious it is?  Hopefully not too bad, because Rice does not
>have a lot of depth.
 
I was at a function this morning featuring coach Willis Wilson. He said that
Peakes may be out at least two weeks. He sprained his arch on his left foot.
However, he did walk off the court on his own after the Tech game and told
me as he went off that he was okay. Wilson did leave open the possibilty that
should the foot progress in the next few days, he may be available for the UT
game in the 30th. In the meantime, Wilson said that he will start Torrey
Andrews in Peakes place and give more playing time to Hakim Bell and Tommy
MaGhee. I am not worried about them as one of the things that the Owls have
been able to do is have other people step up when someone is having an off
night. That is why they have won 7 in a row.
>
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From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
Subject: Rice 67 Texas Tech 59
Organization: Rice University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:55:34 GMT


I haven't seen the box score (clarinet only carries articles on top 25
games and "real" conferences), but here's what I saw:

Texas Tech played a pretty tight defense in the second half, and kept
the game much closer than the final score would indicate.  Tech missed
4 key free throws in the final 2 minutes, and I must credit the
student section with having a lot to do with that.  I think an earlier
post on the "subconscious" effects of constantly cheering airball on
free throw attempts is true.  Also, Rice kept the second half fouls
down and Texas Tech only got into the Bonus with a couple of minutes
left in the game.

Brent Scott appeared to have an off night.  However, Peaks and Andrews 
and Moore all made decent contributions to the game.

The officiating was blind.  We saw MANY clearly uncalled travels on
the part of both teams (we're talking obvious stuff like a pivot foot
only on the toes and slipping).

Rice is now 4-0 in the SWC.  Next game is Saturday at Baylor, 7:35
CST.  It should be a tough one - they only lost to Houston by 6 points
and are in the top 5 in the country in three point shooting percentage
(or was it point total?)

RULE QUESTION:	Who decides which basket each team starts with?  Coin
toss?  Home team picks?  Visitor picks?  It DEFINITELY works to Rice's
favor when the visitor has to make all their second half free throws
right next to the student sections.


Now back to our Big10 and ACC (go jackets!) postings ...

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From: atchison@cis.ohio-state.edu (mark edward atchison)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Cincinnati #6 ???  NOT!
Date: 27 Jan 1993 20:13:05 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
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In article <1993Jan27.200213.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca> msherrick@kean.ucs.mun.ca (Mike Sherrick) writes:
>
>Your criticism of the GMC conference is unfounded, however. I don't 
>remember the details, but I believe the GMAC and Big Ten had an equal 
>number of teams in the Sweet Sixteen last year.
>

Any criticism of the overall level of play in the GMC is certainly founded.
DePaul is awful -- certainly lower division in this year's Big 10 -- and that's
the toughest opponent the GMC has to offer Cincy.  Overrated or not, their
conference sucks.

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From: ragnarok@reed.cs.unlv.edu (Ben Yerushalmi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: UNLV, Long Beach ST, The Big West, Kansas, Georgetown and anything else
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:30:34 GMT
Reply-To: ragnarok@reed.cs.unlv.edu (Ben Yerushalmi)
Organization: UNLV


I try not to post very often around here since the only thing people do is
shoot eachother down.  But this week has made me want to add my 2,3, or 4
cents in.

1st.  I hope the Kansas loss to LBSU shows that there are teams in the
Big West that play real good basketball. Not just UNLV. New Mexico state made
it to the sweet sixteen and UCSB is always tough at home. I was watching the
Nebraska/Colorado game. I know these two teams are in the basement but they
play no better then the teams at the bottom of the Big West (Although I haven't
seen UNR play yet).

2nd.  As for UNLV, I've been going to the home games and watching the away
games -- Unlike the rest of the school. The Georgetown game was no fluke. Some
one posted that UNLV has more talent than GU but please Churchwell is amazing;
Othella is only a freshman and Joey Brown can beat almost anyone in foot race
to the basket. UNLV is a quick team but they lack the size it takes to win
consistently. I wouldn't be surprised if that coupled with a let down causes
the team to lose at UNR (we don't call them nevada here at Vegas) this thursday.

3rd.  Another question was posed as to who beat UNLV at T&M. One thing for sure
it wasn't NMSU until a few years ago NMSU had never beaten UNLV. UC Irvine has
beaten UNLV at the Mack as well as Oklahoma (w/ Stacey King) and Louisville
(w/ Pervis Ellison). I can't remember who else.

4th. I think North Carolina is the best team playing right now. But, though I
am not a Duke fan by any stretch, they can never be counted out of any
year's final four.


Just thought you'd like to know


Ben Yerushalmi
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From: ag496@yfn.ysu.edu (Joseph D. Bowman)
Subject: Cincinnati #6 ???  NOT!
Organization: Youngstown State/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:47:32 GMT


I can't belive it - Cincinnati is ranked #6 in the nation.  They play a bunch
of nobodies and keep climbing in the polls because good teams in front of
them keep losing to other good teams while they continue to play the weaker
teams in the country!

If Cincinnati belonged to a real conference, they would probably have an
8-5 record at best!  Correct me if I am wrong, butdid they beat a top 20
team this season?  They are way overrated in my opinion!

Comments are welcomed, flames are not!

A Big Ten Fan
From: gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: woofing about Ward
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:44:52 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


So are the FSU fans going to start a "Charlie Ward is a (Heisman) Naismith
Award" thread here too?  Someone mentioned Ward giving the ACC fits in both
f-ball and b-ball.  Those FSU football weren't all blowouts like they were
against Duke.  Clemson, Tech, and Virginia were all less than 10 point games.
As for b-ball, its a long season and not even half over yet.  We'll see how
Ward does against his opposition throughout the whole season, not just at
home against NCSU.
-- 
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From: jeffb@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Jeff Bandle)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:06:07 GMT
Subject: Re: WHAT is a Billican (sp?)?
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college

St. Louis University's mascot is a Billiken.  It is an impish little demon that 
looks like a living swirly cone on steroids....UGLY....

The reason I know this is my dad is a St. Louis U. alum...

Cheers,

Jeff B.
From: JKC@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (JON KEVIN CROCKER)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: UMASS beats DePaul
Date: 24 Jan 1993 21:29:46 GMT
Organization: UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS - AMHERST
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In <1juuktINNluv@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:

> 
> Arizona St came in with their star player injured (DNP), and they played with
> UofL for about 10 minutes then gave up.  Rozier was a force in this game, the Arizona St players could not rebound
> with him (20pts/10+rebs).
> 
> Louisville pushes its record to 9-5 (4-0), winning 7 of their last 8 games.
> The next game is at Virginia Tech on Thursday (Metro conference game).
> 
> Mike
> --
From: mbess@phobos.unm.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: BYU/Utah notes (was: BYU Report: BYU vs. Hawaii
Date: 27 Jan 1993 04:15:23 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
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In article <1993Jan25.155121.1@cc.uvcc.edu>, maxwellar@cc.uvcc.edu writes:
> [delete]
> >
> > 
> 
> Is the really the case? Does BYU really play to the level of their
> competition? Or do opponents play inspired against BYU?  Why does Utah
> have reletively easier times against the same competition?  Is it really
> easier for teams to get up for BYU than for Utah?
> 
> Maybe the reason Utah has a relatively easier time against the same competiton is the fact that they are a BETTER team than BYU is.

I'm a Utah man I am, will be until I die.....