HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cichlid@pine.circa.ufl.edu (KUTTY)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: Hurricane Andrews Damage
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:16:25 GMT
Reply-To: cichlid@pine.circa.ufl.edu
Followup-To: rec.aquaria
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Florida  (ufl.edu)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4

In article <9328@travis.csd.harris.com>, marka@SSD.CSD.HARRIS.COM (Mark Ashley) writes...
>In article <1844@celia.UUCP> celia!steve@usc.edu (Steve Tyree) writes:
>> Anyone living in the Southern Florida area care to estimate the amount
>>of devastation this hurricane has done to the underwater marine aquatic
>>life. How many coral reefs damaged ? 


I was in St. Petersburg during the hurricane and the eye came between
75-100 miles from where I was but there was little or no damage in
that area. I did hear that Old World Fish farms in Homestead, FL was
totally wiped out. Old World is (was?) the biggest (and possibly the
best) farm for African cichlids. A friend of mine in the retail 
business knows Laif DeMason the owner of Old World and so far, nobody
has been able to get in touch with Laif. 


                                            Vinny Kutty


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From: sh240031@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria,sci.aquaria
Subject: [M] Lateral line desease
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:03:05 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

Talked with a friend last night about a problem I was having and he related a
problem another aquarist was having.  Said I would seek help from the net.

Due to the lack of a tank ground lateral line desease has manifested itself.
What are some tried and tested cures???  And yes, we had him ground his tank.


Thanks,
				Carl
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: lenny@bmerh187.BNR.CA (Len DePalma)
Subject: Re: Gallons (was: Re: [F] Setup for plants and fish)
Reply-To: lenny@x400gate.bnr.ca
Organization: BNR Ottawa, Fiber Systems Development
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 16:57:08 GMT


In article <830@ozz.oasis.icl.co.uk>, srs@oasis.icl.co.uk (Steve Strong)
writes:
|> Jartsu (jartsu@vipu.hut.fi) wrote:
|> : 55 gallons make about 208 litres... external power filter (something
|> When people talk about gallons on this group, are they using the
|> US gallon or the British gallon? Could someone tell me what the 
|> conversion factor is? I guess it's about 2 US to 1 British, but I 
|> could be totally wrong :-)

Why waste your time with that pathetic system, haven't you heard,
metric's the word!  Do us all (it's universal outside of the US and
Britain, isn't it?) a favour and use LITRES instead.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
INTERNET: lenny@bnr.ca                 Any opinions expressed are mine.

"You get the most noise from the emptiest barrels."  (Burton Cummings)
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From: oleg@Veritas.COM (Oleg Kiselev)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,sci.aquaria,alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: News Flash: Agro-Lite = 99c at PharMore
Date: 26 Aug 92 07:52:58 GMT
Reply-To: oleg@veritas.com (Oleg Kiselev)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Palo Alto Killifish Loft
X-Disclaimer: I speak for myself only unless explicitly indicated otherwise

anbo@wuee1.wustl.edu (Albrecht Jander) writes:
>Phillips Agro-Lite "The Flourescent Lamp for Growing Plants" are on sale
>at PharMore for 99c a piece; various sizes.  So, those of you who use
>those kinds of bulbs, go check it out.

Is PharMore the chain that recently was involved in some financial scandals
and was going/had gone into Ch. 11 reorganization?  That would explain the
sale!

>P.S. I don't know if this is a nationwide thing, just bought a bundle of
>     them in St. Louis, though.

Time to dig through the newspaper adverts...  

All sizes?! Hey, Albrecht, can you get me a few cases of those bulbs?  
Especially the ever-elusive 3' ones...
-- 
"Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and 
child." -- Dan Quayle
 
Oleg Kiselev                                             oleg@veritas.com
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
From: ron@minnow.sp.unisys.com (Ron Burns)
Subject: Re: [M][R] Improving Captive Reef Base Rock
Keywords: reef marine coralline live rock
Reply-To: ron@minnow.UUCP (Ron Burns)
Organization: Unisys Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:30:13 GMT

In article <1869@celia.UUCP> celia!steve@usc.edu (Steve Tyree) writes:
>
.....
> I would like to construct an egg grate suspension platform with 
>pvc pipe as a base. A power head will drive water into the base pvc 
....
> Steve Tyree - Reef Breeder


A FAMA issue early the year (Jan,Feb,Mar or so) featured a tank set up with
the suspended egg crate. You may want to look for that. 
I, too, have planned a similar arrangement on this 100g project.  I was 
thinking of having the sump return line go clear to the bottom of the tank,
and then run the length of the tank along the back wall/floor corner.  
I would cap the end, and drill several small holes in the pipe to shoot water 
across the floor of the tank, beneath the egg crate.  In an ideal world, I 
would come up with a flow pattern which would cause detritus to 'pile up' in 
one or two areas for easy removal.  We'll see.
And to keep people from pointing out the error in my ways, I will mention
drilling the siphon breaker hole above the water line, and the importance of
keeping this hole free of algae and salt.

-Ron
-- 
Ron Burns              
Unisys Corporation                                      ...!rosevax!minnow!ron
Phone:(612)635-6927                           minnow%ron@rosevax.rosemount.com
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: penfold@bnr.ca (Harvey Schwartz)
Subject: [M] Wet/Dry Construction
Reply-To: penfold@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR, Inc.  Richardson, Texas
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 19:45:35 GMT


I've read the FAQ's and scanned through all of the old messages and can't
find any detailed instructions on building a wet/dry filter.
I am hoping to set up a 75 gallon reef tank and would like to save some
money by building my own wet/dry filter.  I know nothing at all about
wet/dry's, so could somebody give me detailed plans (including filter
materials, pumps, construction techniques) on these things or tell me
where I can find some plans?  Any help would really be appreciated.
--

Cheers,
Harvey

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??  penfold@bnr.ca   ??  they are obviously mine alone.                 ??
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From: jimh@ultra.com (Jim Hurley)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: Atlantis in Los Gatos
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:17:15 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies

In <p99j3ag@fido.asd.sgi.com> thk@tyres.asd.sgi.com (Tom Kong) writes:

>I am posting this to Ca only since I can't figure
>out how to post it to only the bay area.

>I drove to Los Gatos yesterday since I haven't been
>to Atlantis in several weeks.  I found that the
>place had burnt down.

>Anyone knows what happened and when it happened?  It
>seem a little strange that a fish store catches fire.

>/tom


There was an article about it in this weekend's San Jose
Mercury News.

It happened a few days ago.
They lost just about all the fish.
The police suspect arson.
-- 
Jim Hurley --> jimh@ultra.com  ...!ames!ultra!jimh  (408) 922-0100
Ultra Network Technologies / 101 Daggett Drive / San Jose CA 95134
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: jony@microsoft.com (Jon Yeargers)
Subject: sorry.. hold your flames
Date: 24 Aug 92 20:26:13 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Distribution: usa

.. my newsposter and I both brain-barfed. Ireally hadn't intended to
post the same thing 3 times. Sorry! (It kept telling me that it was
hitting errors)Jony@microsoft.com
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: faith@wam.umd.edu (Jay)
Subject: Re: Sea shells in aquarium?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:27:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.182957.5561@fs7.ece.cmu.edu> rajesh@maruti.ece.cmu.edu (Rajesh H. Zele) writes:
>I have kept some sea water shells (ones you find on the beach) 
>in my 20 gallon aquarium. Recently, I observed some holes in some of 
>these shells. Do u think they disintegrate.. dissolve in water?
>Are they harmful to fish? 
>	Thanx...
>
>Rajesh
>
Yes!,   they are disintegrating and are desolving in your water. Depending
on your fish they could be harmful. What it does is make they water more
alkiline than it needs to be. (could be acidic, I get the two mixed up on the
pH scale).  Anyway, that's what it does. 

Also, it is making your water harder than you might like it. They put alot
of metals in your water.  

Be sure to clean them very well before putting them in the water (too late for
you though).  Something could be dead on the inside a cause you a world of
problems with the health of your fish. I had some in my tank and it did all
of the above.  

Be carefull!   Jerome.



Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: laurence@cco.caltech.edu (Dustin Lee Laurence)
Subject: Re: cuttlefish
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:53:00 GMT

cigliano@bu-bio.bu.edu (John Cigliano) writes:

[Cuttlefish]

>However, they are champions when it comes to inking. I've seen _Sepia
>officinalis_ (the common cuttlefish found in the mediterraneum and eastern
>atlantic) project ink out of its tank and hit a wall over 10 m away. 
>The amount of ink is enough to turn water in the largest tanks black. You
>would need a heavy duty protein skimmer and a very good filtration system
>to remove the ink.

This brings up an interesting question: how harmful is cuttlefish and/or
octopus ink?  I've heard that it is quite poisonous, and I've also heard
that it's only harmful in that it tends to suffocate the critter if not
removed.  Is it species-dependent?  Any idea on how long one has to remove
the stuff before serious harm is done?

-- 
Dustin Laurence       "As sensitive and broad-minded humans, we must never
                       allow ourselves to be in any way judgmental of the
laurence@alice         religious practices of other people, even when these
caltech.edu           people clearly are raving space loons." -- Dave Barry
From: gt7969a@prism.gatech.EDU (DEPUY)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Filter for f/w 75G question
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:58:01 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


I have a question about a filter system for a f/w 75 gallon planted tank.

I am considering starting a f/w 75G (or possibly 110G) with lots of plants,
but a fair amount of fish, too.  I am not going with a UF filter for plant
reasons.  At first I was considering a wet/dry trickle filter, but the cost
is a bit too much.  Now I'm looking into just a canister filter.  I want the
best water quality I can get without spend all of my money.  Will just the
canister filter do?..... say maybe an Eheim 2215 (or 2217 for 110G)?  If I
decide to invest in a wet/dry trickle filter later, can I put it in series
with the canister?

Any recommendations are welcome.  Thanks.

Wynand DePuy
    wdepuy@chmsr.isye.gatech.edu

-- 
DEPUY,WYNAND CRAWFORD
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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From: howardr@col.hp.com (Howard Rebel)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Activated Carbon (was Re: Cannister Filter Question ?????????????????)
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:55:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: col.1992Sep3.165510.24858
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

In article <1992Sep3.160309.23369@cs.ucla.edu> frazier@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Gregory Frazier) writes:
>...
>We have about 10 aquaria, none of which have activated carbon in
>them.  Whatever else can be said about activated carbon, it is
>not a "must" for a freshwater aquarium.

Yours is a single data point Greg.  I too have freshwater aquariums
without carbon but I am not sure that it is safe to suggest that 
it is never needed.
-- 
Howard Rebel hpcsos.col.hp.com 
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: harold@wam.umd.edu (James B. Harold)
Subject: Re: Doctor X Pet Center
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:30:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.053055.196018@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> tes0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (THOMAS EDWIN SCHMIDLIN) writes:
<...nasty (and IMHO typical) description of a Doctor pet store deleted...>
>
>It is truly a shame that stores such as this are allowed to exist.  Perhaps
>the SPCA should get involved, because cruelty is exactly what is going on.

Didn't Doctor get in trouble with the SPCA a few years ago?  One of
those mall pet store chains did.  Of course, that was for dogs
and cats, I believe.  Not fish.  Now, before I make any rude
remarks about people caring a lot more about cruelty to "cute"
animals then to animals in general, can anybody tell me if the
SPCA or other agencies has ever come down on a store like this
for its treatment of fish, newts, frogs or other non-furry
critters?

-- 

James Harold                 "There is always an easy solution to
harold@wam.umd.edu            every human problem -- neat, plausible,
                              and wrong."    --  H. L. Mencken 
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
From: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Subject: Re: [M][R] Improving Captive Reef Base Rock
Keywords: reef marine coralline live rock
Reply-To: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:44:30 GMT

In article <1879@celia.UUCP> celia!steve@usc.edu (Steve Tyree) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.183013.26818@minnow.sp.unisys.com> ron@minnow.UUCP (Ron Burns) writes:
>>
>>A FAMA issue early the year (Jan,Feb,Mar or so) featured a tank set up with
>>the suspended egg crate. You may want to look for that. 
>
> You are the second one to mention the FAMA article. I have paged through
>the issues I have from that time frame and can not locate the article.
>Perhaps its in one of the few issues I am missing. I have received some
>real good mail on this thread and will put together a collection of the
>messages tomorow. One of the letters I received asked if this could be
>done.
>
> Steve Tyree - Reef Breeder

    Steve, the name of the article was "From Pier to Peer, (Pun
Intended)" but, since I don't have my back-issues of FAMA here at
work, I can't tell you for sure which issue it was in.  I'll look
for it tonight.

--
Guy McConnell  guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com
From: asmadsen@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Aaron S. Madsen)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Silver Dollar Question
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:18:30 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

I was recently given what I suspect was a juvenile
freshwater silver dollar.  It has doubled in size
in about a month to 1 inch (not counting tail).
The only reference I could find in my meager library
was 2 inches full grown, but this somehow sounds
too small, as I recall hearing on here that they
have been kept with oscars and discus.  I also
recall a recent issue of some fish magazine
describing them co-habiting with piranhas.  Anyway,
my obvious question is how big do they get?  I also
understand that silver dollars are herbivorous.
If anyone finds a good article in a reference book,
please let me know which book you found it in, too.

Thanks :-)
Aaron, asmadsen@phoenix.princeton.edu
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
From: wissler@stsci.edu (Steven Wissler,G12,4899,ADD.1-29-91)
Subject: Re: [M]   Anemonies from hell? Or am I just doing good?
Originator: wissler@homer.stsci.edu
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:34:30 GMT

From article <1992Sep1.183719.27204@minnow.sp.unisys.com>, by ron@minnow.sp.unisys.com (Ron Burns):
> In a previous post, I described my 10 gallon fish/invert tank.  At that time,
> I think I said I have 7 anemonies.  I cleaned the tank last weekend, and
> ran my Magnum 350 on it for a while.  Thats a LOT of current in a 10 gallon
> tank.  I counted the obvious anemonies afterwards, and thought I had sucked 
> one up and lost it.  Down to six.
> 
> My wife was feeding the anemonies (squid chunks) yesterday, and she said she
> got all ten of them fed.  TEN!  OK, some of them are small, but they all were
> when I first found them.  At this rate, and with the way they grow, in a few
> months there won't be a safe place for the trigger or the damsel to sleep!
> 
> Someone quite a while back mentioned anemonies he got on live rock.  He said
> he was afraid that they were "the naughty type".  At the time, I had no
> idea what he meant.  Have I now found out?
>

	I have the same problem in my reef tank. The small anemonies
 	which came in on the live rock are breeding like rabbits. The
	only harm they seem to do so far is to bother my Tridacna clam.
	They cause him to retract his mantle in areas that are adjacent
	to one of the anemonies. I posted a while back to see if anyone
	had a way to get rid of them, but got no responses. My local
	aquarium store has 2 reef tanks, one which lots of the critters
	and one with none. The one without has a copper banded butterfly
	in it which the store claims is eating the anemonies but not
	bothering the corals in the tank. I may give this a try.
					Steve Wissler - anemone breeder
					wissler@stsci.edu
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From: mar@athena.mit.edu (Mark A. Rosenstein)
Subject: Re: WANTED:gentle vegetarian
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:17:20 GMT

I'm familiar with what eats microalge, but not the macro alges.  The only
thing I'm sure of is that most urchins will eat calurpa.  For micro-alge, 
my favorite creatures are hippo tangs and any species of eyelash blennie.
I've got a bicolor blennie in my 10 gallon reef that's consumed hair alge
far faster than I've seen a tang do it.
					-Mark
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: schwarz@esrican.esri.com (Mr.Coach)
Subject: LAVA ROCK
Organization: ESRI Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:34:00 GMT



Questions re: substrate material in trickle filters...

I was sold -- and have since set up -- a homemade trickle filter made from 
a 20g for a 72g marine tank.  The pet shop salesman who constructed the 
filter had placed "lava rock" in the lower tier of the filter to act as the
substrate; just below the bio balls.  I asked him if it was ok to use this 
material as I had never heard of this before.  He said that it was fine.
He said that it was porous and could be substituted for crushed coral.  
He said that the PH buffering capacity of crushed coral eventually 
deteriorates anyway.

Can someone set me straight on this matter.  I don't have any fish in
the tank as yet but it will be a pain-in-the-butt to change it now.  
I will, however, if it is necessary.

Has anyone heard/done this "lava rock" idea before?
Is it ok in a marine environment?
Do I *need* to change it?
Is this fellow correct about PH buffering?

Thanks,

Brian




Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steven Dorner)
Subject: Re: [F] Serpae Tetra beating the tar out of goldfish!?
Followup-To: rec.aquaria
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:56:37 GMT

HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu wrote:
> 
> Go figure!  I just populated a 29g freshwater tank (cycled for two weeks)
> with one 2" garden variety fantail goldfish (Carassius auratus, I believe)
> and 2 1.25" Serpae Tetras (Hyphessobrycon serpae). ... The alleged
> male tetra has reduced the goldfish to a quivering mass.

Goldfish prefer cold water, and shouldn't be put in tanks with tropical
fish.

Fancy goldfish are mutants too slow and unwieldy to get out of the way of
any normal fish, so the above advice goes double for fantails, orandas,
celestials, bubble-eyes, prolapsed-intestines, hydrocephalitics, and all
other such things.
From: putzolu@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (David Putzolu)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: [M] [R] Protein Skimmers?
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:05:38 GMT
Followup-To: rec.aquaria
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of California, Davis

Hi!
As I posted earlier, I am about to begin converting my marine fish
tank to a semi-reef/full reef tank (we'll see how far it goes with
time.) In some email I was told (among other things) to make sure
I got a good protein skimmer. I remember (or am I imagining things?)
mention of the Amiracle and Skilter as being decent. Since I have a
40 and may get a 55 or 70, I decided the Skilter was too small, and
am probably going to get the Amiracle 18" Reef Skimmer. Actually, I
have already ordered it, but can return if if worst comes to worst.
Overall, have I made a bad choice? Is there a better protein skimmer
I should use? 
Thanks!

P.S. Summary of results of this plus my fish compatibility question
will be posted on Monday, incase anyone is interested.

| David M. A. Putzolu               | putzolu@cs.ucdavis.edu              |
| Senior Undergraduate              | op disclaimer(opinion : ptr mine)   |
| Computer Science and Psychology   |      Money? Who needs money?        |
| University of California at Davis |          I've got fish!             |
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: ig30@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: ACA ADDRESS
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 01:50:07 GMT

The address of the membership chairperson is

Glenn Eaves
P.O Box 32130
Raleigh, North Carolina 27622

The ACA produces the Buntbarshe Bulletin bimonthly and the Trading Post
bimonthly also. The Buntbarshe Bulletin is an excellent publication. And you
should be able to find rare cichlid species in the trading post. The next
Trading Post is due in September. Membership dues for a year is $15 and can be
sent to the above address. It will be worth your money. Another publication you 
might be interested in is Cichlid News. Their subsription forms will appear in
the above mentioned publications. If you want I will email you the address.

Ruvan

IG30@VAXB.ACS.UNT.EDU
From: brian@picasso.icd.teradyne.com (Brian Hunter)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: Atlantis in Los Gatos
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:28:59 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Teradyne, Inc. Boston MA

There was an article in the Mecury News (Local Paper) on saturday (I think)
At the time it appeared that the front doors were forced open and the 
place ransacked before being set on fire.

That`s right someone set the place on fire!  The only good news was that
30 or so birds were out at the Vets and were saved by there absence.

This was one of the best local stores and will be missed.

Brian Hunter

In article <p99j3ag@fido.asd.sgi.com> thk@tyres.asd.sgi.com (Tom Kong) writes:
>I am posting this to Ca only since I can't figure
>out how to post it to only the bay area.
>
>I drove to Los Gatos yesterday since I haven't been
>to Atlantis in several weeks.  I found that the
>place had burnt down.
>
>Anyone knows what happened and when it happened?  It
>seem a little strange that a fish store catches fire.
>
>/tom
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: rajesh@maruti.ece.cmu.edu (Rajesh H. Zele)
Subject: Goldfish sick: Help
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:06:45 GMT

I have a tiny goldfish about 1.5' long. I got him just last week,
For first few days, he was highly active, sucking up the gravel in 
my 20 gallon tank,.. He seemed to like it there,.. 
	Now from yesterday, he looks quiet, doesn't eat.. steadily
swiming at one place. Also there is something white around his face..
may be some kind of fungus..I have now kept him in isolated fish bowl
with bubbler... Does anybody have any diagnosis to help my goldfish?

Please help.....

Rajesh

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