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From: ig25@fg70.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas Koenig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: Whats POSIX, and how would it help MiNT/MTOS?
Date: 27 Jan 93 08:56:11 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
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wilsont@rahul.net (Timothy Wilson) writes:

>what does POSIX do for the average joe?

POSIX.1 provides an application interface for programs.  It provides
highly portable C functions for writing programs across a multitude
of platforms, including UNIX versions, but also VAX/VMS (which is about
as non- UNIX - like as you can get), for example.

It is modeled on UNIX implementations, so most UNIX code can be
ported to POSIX.1 with few changes.  Many of the things it defines are
those that were traditionally considered "system dependent", such
as reading a directory, getting the time, getting information about
a file, signal handling, etc - the traditional area of the "system
calls".

If you've written a POSIX.1 - compliant application, you've ported it to
AT&T SVR4, HP-UX 8.0, AIX, VAX/VMS, Linux, ...  without needing to change a
single byte in your source code, and without all these pesky #ifdefs.

Finally, the U.S. Federal Government requires that computers sold to it
should be POSIX.1 - compliant, so vendors have a VERY strong incentive
for implementing that API on their machines.

For those who want to get a feel of what POSIX.1 is like, I suggest
browsing through the POSIX Programmer's Guide, one of the O'Reilly
books.
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From: bob@snuffy.penfield.ny.us (Bob Smith)
Subject: Re: Problems with Sun-3 Shoebox Hard Disk Project
Organization: Fuzzball Widget Factory
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:51:01 GMT

ralph@laas.fr (Ralph P. Sobek) writes:

> The drive is a Micropolis 1325.  When I power up the shoebox LED 3 of
> the Emulex controller blinks.  What's the significance?  The drive
> sounds like it comes up fine.  When I call ICDFMT is sends out a
> sensing signal for SCSI devices, and the diode light on the front of
> the drive flashs but ICDFMT does not get an answer.

I think the problem may be that the Micropolis 1325 is an ST506 device,
and the MD21 is intended for controlling ESDI devices like the
Micropolis 1355 or 1558...  The controller you need for the 1325 is an
Adaptec ACB4000 or equivalent...

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From: erics@agora.rain.com (Eric Stuyvesant)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: MiNT & minix filesystem questions...
Summary: Availability of fsck/chkdisk3 type programs and rz for minix filesystem?
Keywords: MiNT, minix, rz, sz
Date: 27 Jan 93 03:55:36 GMT
Organization: Open Communications Forum

Hello, all.

I recently started using the minix filesystem driver along with MiNT (how did
I get along for so long without it?), and I have a few questions...

First, the version of rz that I've been using truncates filenames to 8.3.
  Does someone know of a version, in source or binary form, lurking out there
  which supports longer filenames?  Other bonuses would include the ability
  to run under curses (i.e. in a window under GEM), and the ability to
  redirect messages to a file (so it can happily run in the background).
  TOS backward compatibility is not necessary.  I've looked at atari.archive
  and have noted a horde of different programs in the communications
  directory, but before spending the effort to download them all, I thought
  I'd consult net.wisdom first.

Second, what tools are available for checking the integrity of and fixing minix
  partitions, short of buying minix?  I'm looking for something with the
  abilities of chkdisk3 from Atari.  Obviously, none of the filesystem
  checkers I've run across understand inodes and such.  If there is nothing
  out there (PD or commercial), any pointers to cost and availability of
  minix would be appreciated.  I really don't know much about *IX
  filesystems, but is it naive to hope that fsck for e.g. BSD 4.4 could be
  made to work on an ST minix partition without major hacking?

Last, and sort of on a divergent point (but anyone who's read this far is
  likely to have an interest in the answer, or to know it :-), what are the
  differences between Atari minix and e.g. PClone minix?  Are patch files
  available through the net or otherwise that would allow me to convert my
  Atari minix x.y.z to PClone minix h.j.k?  Would I be able to reuse my
  purchase without buying a new copy if someone were to take away my ST
  and force me to use a PClone? :-)

Many thanks in advance.

P.S.  Have any other Atari developers noticed the evil path Atari has taken
       as evidenced by the letter which came with the developer newsletter?
       Do they honestly hope to encourage new development for the ST?  Also,
       a while back, I specifically requested and got the development
       information for FSMGDOS.  Atari didn't even bother to tell me that it
       had been abandoned.  I first found out through the net.  :-(.

-- 
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From: rgoseweh@digi.lonestar.org (Roy Gosewehr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: GDOS
Summary: Remember G+Plus Different
Keywords: GDOS, G+Plus
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:57:15 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

In article <1jouq8INNe2o@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> CASTAN@cip.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Gerd Castan) writes:
>
>The only way is to read ASSIGN.SYS.
>You'll find it on your boot partition.

Note that if you are using G+Plus, the ASSIGN.SYS file does NOT have to
be on the boot partition.

R.C.G.


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From: aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Jan T. Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Advantages of TOS 2.06?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 03:12:43 +0100
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne
Reply-To: kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: rs1.rrz.uni-koeln.de

Hi Atari tech folks,

there will soon be a chance for me to  get  my  520  STfm,  which
currently  has 2.5 MB and TOS 1.04, upgraded to 4 MB and TOS 2.06
at a reasonable price. While I'm most determined to go for the  4
MB upgrade, I'm not so sure about the TOS 2.06 one. I am not sure
whether there is any major advantage of TOS  2.06  that  I  can't
have with TOS 1.04 and the standard patches.
I'm not looking for info about the TOS 2.06 desktop or such --  I
use it every day at work. I am interested in technical details in
the internals that may not be obvious to  someone  like  me,  who
uses  the  ST  for GFA programming, GNU C programming at beginner
level (hope that's going to change in the  future  :-),  terminal
emulation  with UniTerm, word processing, playing, and some other
stuff.
Currently, it seems to  me  that  TOS  2.06  offers  a  lot  more
convenience  than  TOS 1.04, but there's not any major difference
between TOS 1.04 and TOS 2.06 at the level of  OS  functionality.
But  since  I'm  not the OS hacker type, it's quite possible that
this is not correct, hence my question.
A question that comes to my mind is, a while ago I was told  that
the  TOS  2.06  expansion  card  was  designed  to  be able to be
equipped with MultiTOS ROMs in the future. Could  anyone  comment
on that?

I will post a summary if I receive interesting  mail  replies  on
this posting.

Greetinx & thanx in advance, Jan

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From: Erno_Meffert@f801.n281.z2.fidonet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: SM 124 Size adjustment
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 03:02:38 +0100
Reply-To: f801.n281.z2.fidonet!Erno_Meffert@nextjk.wlink.nl
Distribution: world
X-FSC-PATH: 281/801
X-FSC-PID: LED 1.00

In a message of <Thu 21 Jan 93 06:33>, Trevor Pearson (2:281/202.0) writes:

 TP> I know it is possible to increase the miserable size of the active
 TP> display on SM 124 monitors. Does anybody know the trick? I have
 TP> tried the internal horizontal and vertical size adjustments, and
 TP> while there is no problem with vertical size, I cannot get the
 TP> horizontal size more than about 2/3 of the screen using the inductor
 TP> slug. Does anybody know why the active display area is set so small
 TP> at the factory? Were they just trying to be as bad as the MAC?

You shouldn't do this.Increasing the size of the screen often goes with
increasing the voltage on several component's in the monitor.Atari has
stated that increasing the screen using the potentiometers in the SM124 can
kill the flyback unit after some time.

                                     Greetings Erno

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From: ersmith@netcom.com (Eric R. Smith)
Subject: Re: Falcon GEM version number please
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:05:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.162501.778@cs.ruu.nl> avgroeni@cs.ruu.nl (Annius Groenink) writes:
>
>Does anybody know the GEM version number (global[0]!!) of the
>Falcon?  I need a way to decide whether the AES displays 3d
>objects yes or no. 

The original Falcon AES is 3.3. This implements 3D objects incorrectly
(using the extended object type, which was supposed to be reserved for
applications). We have fixed that, and the new AES which correctly
implements 3D objects (using bits 9 and 10 of ob_flags) will be put
into production shortly. The AES version number of this AES will be
3.4; the TOS version number is 4.02.

(MultiTOS will also use bits 9 and 10 of ob_flags for 3D effects.)

Regards,
Eric

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: lenn@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jody Lenn)
Subject: *** WANTED  1040STe  ***
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:53:24 GMT



      I am looking for a used 1040STe, with TOS 1.62 or 2.06.

      I will consider any RAM configuration. 
      I only want the computer and mouse and the owner's manual.  
      I will pay a very fair price.   
      Obviously, the computer should be in perfect working order.

      I will consider STe's with other upgrades such as AdSpeed etc.
      and will pay accordingly for the upgrade's value.
    
                                             Thanks in Advance,
                                                 Jody Lenn

       lenn@atari.archive.umich.edu
       lenn@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
       GEnie: J.LENN1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: jthomas@kolanut.mitre.org (Joe Thomas)
Subject: Can Spectre parallel output -> serial?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:58:03 GMT

I'm using Spectre GCR to do a lot of Mac word processing, as well as
downloading things from my local Internet provider.  I rely on the fact
that the Spectre software turns the Mac serial printer port output into
parallel output on the ST's printer port.  Running MultiFinder I can print
in the background over the printer port and download at the same time.  I
want to go to a serial printer (well, it's more complicated than that, but
I'll explain later), and I'm wondering if I can keep using the printer
port, running the output through a parallel-serial converter.

Has anyone used a parallel to serial adapter on the Atari printer port to
drive serial devices?  
 
I know Spectre internally converts the Mac OS's serial output intended for
a Mac printer port into parallel output, but is anything done for input? 
Is this even a reasonable question? (I don't know of any bidirectional
parallel devices, although I have seen ads for bidirectional
parallel-serial converters.)
 
The GCR manual doesn't go into a lot of depth as to the nature of
Spectre's internal serial-parallel conversion.  A one-way (output only)
conversion would be sufficient to drive parallel printers, but wouldn't
work at all if I tried to hook up a serial device that needed to be able
to talk back.
 
 (Actually, my ultimate goal is even more complicated, involving directing
Spectre printer output through a null-modem cable into a 486 box running a
Unix clone, where a daemon process will handshake like a LaserWriter,
accept the PostScript output, and pipe it to GhostScript, a free Gnu
Public Licensed PostScript emulator... but that's some time in the future)
 
Joe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: fsctc@lerc03.lerc.nasa.gov (Clarence Chang)
Subject: Re: GDOS & WordUp printing on TT
Summary:   Printing WordUp on TT with GDOS
Keywords: GDOS, wordup, TT
Reply-To: fsctc@lerc03.lerc.nasa.gov (Clarence Chang)
Organization: NASA/Lewis Research Center, Cleveland
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:26:17 GMT

Has anyone here successfully printed from WordUp on a TT using the GDOS mode?

I have installed my WordUp copy on my TT but it doesn't want to print with
GDOS.  It works fine on my ST.  The problems comes to something like "printer
driver isn't there or out of memory.  It shouldn't have happened since I
installed the whole thing with the the original disks.  Yes, I loaded devices
1-9 in the assign.sys file.  Also, there's plenty of memory available.

Clarence
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: hohmuth@freia.sax.de (Michael Hohmuth)
Subject: Re: Coexisting hard drives
Reply-To: hohmuth@freia.inf.tu-dresden.de
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, TU Dresden, Germany
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:28:18 GMT

In article <ENTROPY.93Jan21074718@kropotkin.gnu.ai.mit.edu>, entropy@gnu.ai.mit.edu (maximum entropy) writes:

> The Megafile currently boots with AHDI 3.01.  I'd like to run it with
> the ICD software instead, so I plan to boot with the Toadfile, copy
> the contents of the Megafile onto a cartridge, format the Megafile
> with ICD software, copy everything back to the Megafile, and then
> reconnect the Megafile as the boot device.  (Am I correct that the
> first device in the DMA daisy chain is the boot hard disk?)  The
> question is, will my AHDI-formatted Megafile be accessible while I'm
> running the ICD boot software, or will I have to do a backup/restore
> to floppy to get everything copied over?
> 
> Also, will I have to diddle any switches to hook up both drives at the
> same time, or does the DMA bus automagically figure things out from
> the order in which they are cabled to the machine?

The device which it boots off is always device number 0, no matter where
the device is in the chain. So be sure you give your Toadfile a device address
different from 0. (To be more correct: It boot from the first DMA device it
can read and execute a boot sector from.)

The ICD software is compatible to AHDI, so you will be able to access your
AHDI-formatted partitions while running the ICD driver. 

I think it's not nessecary to boot from your Toadfile. You could install 
the ICD booter on your Megadrive and then boot from it. In this case, you 
would not have to change your Megafile's device number (which, as I heard,
is even impossible with some older Megafiles).

> [...]  Will I still be
> able to access the ICD adapter's internal clock if the ICD adapter is
> second in the chain?

Yes, you will. The ICD host adapter's clock is device number 6 and can always 
be accessed, no matter where it is in the chain.

Michael
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From: clausb@hpbbrd.bbn.hp.com (Claus Brod)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:40:01 GMT
Subject: Re: Reading BIOS Boot Parameter Block
Organization: HP Mechanical Design Division
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Lost Boy (mm68@unix.brighton.ac.uk) wrote:
> Can anyone tell me how to read in the BIOS boot sector paramter from a floppy
> disk and how to access the value of it in C? I am having loads of trouble,
> getting spurious data, or hang-ups!

In Pure C/Turbo C, you just say:

#include <tos.h>

[...]

	BPB mybpb, *bpbptr = Getbpb(drive);
	if (bpbptr)
	{
		memcpy(&mybpb, mybpbptr, sizeof(BPB);
		/* read the values in mybpb */
	}	

'drive' is a BIOS drive number, and BPB is a structure declared in <tos.h>;
the name of the include file and the names of the structure elements 
might vary depending on the compiler you're using.

Note that it's possible that the system reuses the space that 'bpbptr'
points to when Getbpb() is called for the next time, so it's not
safe to assume that every drive has a dedicated BPB somewhere in the
system. I know of at least one version of AHDI that allocated only
one BPB and filled it with values whenever Getbpb() was called
for a drive on a hard disk. That's why the code fragment above
immediately copies the BPB to a safe place. This won't help,
however, in a multi-tasking environment where taskswitches could
occur between the Getbpb() and memcpy() calls. I think this old
AHDI's behaviour in this respect is unsafe. I don't know about
current AHDI versions, though.

> Also, I have written a formatter which uses interleaving (factor 11) but
> when i use Quikdex I get a performance drop to 48% from the usual 97%!!!
> Any idea what I am doing wrong?

A generally good advice on QuickIndex' disk throughput values might 
be to ignore them and write your own tests 8-), but in this
case you've probably spotted a real problem in your program.
Are we talking 9- or 10-sector formats here?

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From: marc@targon.UUCP (Marc Dierikx)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: MODPAS
Date: 25 Jan 93 07:14:23 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Informatiesyst. ,dep.SWZ,Postbus 29,4130 EA Vianen,Netherlands

In article <1jq5apINNkem@golem.wcc.govt.nz| wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
|Atari in this country is (annoyingly) about 90% dead!  So, unless I
|can get a Shareware/PD PASCAL (of which MODPAS is the only one I've
|been told of), I would have MAJOR difficult getting one!
|
|If I did, the cost would almost double due to postage costs!
|
You might also have a look at one of those Pascal to C translators available
on the net (like p2c).

Marc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: Cford@debug.cuc.ab.ca (Conan Ford)
Subject: Using PC-relative addressing with TSRs
Reply-To: Cford@debug.cuc.ab.ca (Conan Ford)
Organization: The Magic BBS (Debug Computer Services)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 04:47:45 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Keywords: 
 
 

I was writing a TSR and couldn't figure out exactly why it was bombing. 
Is it okay to use the PC in a VBL?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: bjgrier@bnr.ca (Brian Grier)
Subject: Re: MiNT 0.99 PL2 for PureC
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:46:58 GMT
Organization: Bell Northern Research

>  AH!  Is THAT why it wouldn't run properly?  I got it compiled, and it
>  has kept crashing right after it shows the MiNT is Now TOS message.  I
>  changed optimization levels, in hopes that THAT was the problem; could
>  someone give a 5 line description of Multi-AES, why we can't get it,
>  and why I ought to comment out '-DMULTITOS'?

Well it's the Multi-TOS version of AES it's not released, and if you don't 
Mint crashes.

There ya go 1.2 lines nuf said

Brian, WS1S (ST/TT User/Developer)
Bell Northern Research
Research Triangle Park, NC
From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Steve Wells)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: MiNT 0.99 source on atari.archive.umich.edu...
Date: 25 Jan 1993 05:23:56 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

What *Is* the latest version of MiNT, I've only got 9.4 (or 0.94?!)

And, what it the latest version of TOS-Win that comes with it, where
can I get these files!?  (a.a.u.e!?).  Also, where can I locate
'MiNT-Term' (MiNT Terminal program, with built in Z-Modem apparently).
Sounds most useful, and a lot better than my ASCII terminal emulator
I wrote for MiNT! (Which is slightly dodgy....)

Great program! (MiNT!)

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 | O O    Computers:  Not just machines, they're a way of  |       |||       |
 |  o     life.  Your computer *IS* your religion!         |       ||| TARI  |
 | \_/    Steve Wells - Wellington, New Zealand.           |      / | \      |
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From: bossoj@aix.rpi.edu (Joseph Charles Bossolini)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Offline news reader
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:42:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY

This has probably been discussed before but...

And, I thought I would get a quicker response here because of all the
flaming going on in the other group...

Anyway, I am looking for a program to read usenet news offline for my ST.
What I want to do is download the messages from my school's system and view
them with something similar to trn.

To simplify even more:  I will copy the posts to disk @ school and then
bring the disk home to read the posts.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Joe (bossoj@rpi.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: rogeraw@dhhalden.no (ROGER ALLAN WAHLGREN)
Subject: Re: Atari MEGA STE 330Meg Maxtor SCSI
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:40:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.202414.1224@doug.cae.wisc.edu> carter@cae.wisc.edu (Carter Gregory) writes:
>From: carter@cae.wisc.edu (Carter Gregory)
>Subject: Atari MEGA STE 330Meg Maxtor SCSI
>Date: 21 Jan 93 20:24:13 CST
>Hello all,  long time no see....
>
>Well I finally have my BBS software written and now am contemplating
>some serious disk space.
>
>I would like to know, if anyone has hooked up a BIG 200meg plus scsi
>drive to thier MEGA STE system, specifically:
>
>1) Can the measily 80Watt power supply handle the startup sequence?
>
>2) Did you have to put the drive and mother board in a seperate case?
>
>3) What software do you find best to use on it?  (IE Supra?  Atari? ICD?)
>
>And, what kind of performance do you get with the ONBOARD SCSI in your
>MEGA STE?
>
>I am looking at MAXTOR's 330MEG SCSI for my MEGA STE.  I would hate to blow
>that size of a wad and then find it won't work.
>
>-Greg
>
>PS: Oh yeah, BBS number almost forgot: 608-238-7231...call and play games
>    send mail...no file base yet, haven't gotten that far...I don't even
>    have the drive yet!
>
>The board software is called ACICS.  Node is: acics.uucp.


It should not be a problem to use that disk with your Mega STE. If the Atari 
software does not find the disk, try using GE-Soft from Germany. The ICD 
will not work if you do not have the pro version. 

You will have the same speed as connecting it to an ext. case. The 
controller in the STE is not true SCSI, but ACSI to SCSI converter, as all 
other SCSI controllers from 3rd party. The controller actually comes from 
the Stacy. AND it is not possible to hook up 2 or more drives to the 
controller as it is possible on true SCSI or controllers from other 3rd 
party companies.


R.A.W
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