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From: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Subject: Re: What's the deal with BGC?
Reply-To: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:10:19 GMT

In article <-1368728186snx@izumi.DIALix.oz.au> michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte) writes:
>
>Sorry, but Polydor is my pet hate. They are a bit like USMC in that
>they pick up just about anything that has a good "name" but is actually
>pretty flawed merchandise. :)
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Ahhh, someone after my own heart... :-)

I'm fully aware that Polydor is only a distributor, but their recent
releases have made the Polydor name something to avoid...or at least
cringe at.  Here's what I mean:

  Gall Force -> GF: Earth Chapter -> GF: New Century
    The original Gall Force was exciting, though it wasn't exactly
    original.  When Polydor took over and released the "Earth
    Chapter" series, it went to mediocre, though not that bad.
    I couldn't believe how bad the "New Century" OAVs were...

  Bubblegum Crisis -> Bubblegum Crash! -> Bubblegum SMASH! (?)
    At first glance, the Bubblegum Crisis series looked like yet
    another "Babes with Guns" series, and started out that way
    too.  These OAVs had alot of style, however and later OAVs
    developed the characters of the Knight Sabers and the ADPolice
    quite nicely.  Just as nicely, Bubblegum Crash! threw all of
    that out, and gave us...something (I'm not sure how to describe
    it).  Bubblegum SMASH! or whatever is *not* something I'm looking
    forward too...

  Iczer One -> Iczer 3
    Alot of what made Iczer One work for me were the lessons that both
    Iczer One and Nagisa learned.  Again, for Iczer 3, all of the
    points made in "Iczer One" were thrown out, and we got a brawl
    instead (though some time was devoted to how inexperienced Izcer 3
    was)...

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From: jgoo@jarthur.claremont.edu (Justin M.W. Goo)
Subject: Music Poll + query
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:30:56 GMT


	You can put a vote for me in for Minmei's Love, Do You Remember ,
too, but there is another song I would also like to vote for.  This is going
to sound really obscure but the song is the third song in the Genesis
Climber Mospeada: Love, Live, Alive video.  The third song (not including
the opening song), is when Yellow is at the concert and says something to
the extent of "are you enjoying yourselfs?  Okay, lets slow things down a
bit, this is one of my love songs."  It's a really sweet, slow, mushy love
song, and I absolutely love it.  Anyway, that's my vote.  If any of you know
the title of the song, and/or have the lyrics to it, I would greatly
appreciate it.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: n029gf@tamuts.tamu.edu (Michael Williams)
Subject: Re: Project Akon problems?
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:58:34 GMT

In article <Bv7sHy.FyH@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer) writes:
>
>     I had been away from Fidonet for a while So I haven't been keeping
>up with the Texas anime politics. Someone made mention of the EDC wars
>and Antony Hernandez told me that things were not boding well for 
>project Akon.  What??? Another con wars? Can anyone tell me what is going
>on?
>
REally?  AS far as I've heard, A-Kon 4 is chugging right along.  A date has been
set, a hotel chosen, a Krew of oficers is coming together, there are already
a few staffers pledging themselves to the convention dieties.  I'll have a 
full progress report on Project A-Kon after this weekend.  (BTW, this weekend
there is a mini anime convention in Dallas, and the A-Kon chairs-not to mention
several other officers-will be there.  I'll get the info stright from the 
source.)

	Captain "Convention grunt" Woodchuck

n029gf@tamuts.tamu.edu				The further saga of Con Wars
From: whong@musubi.pubnet.com (Dream Hunter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Katsuhiro's Roujin Z
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 12:24:08 HDT
Organization: Studio Musubi, Honolulu HI

dcha@flex.com (Doug Cha) writes:

>   Did anyone else notice the striking similarity in theme and story 
> between Akira and Roujin Z?  I prefered Akira for it's more dismal 
> portrait of the future, among other things, but Roujin was 'okay'..
> 
>   What other anime has Otomo done?

By now, you may have gotten a TON of answers but if not:

Otomo did the opening and closing animation for Robot Carnival also did 
animation for another anime collection called Manie Manie.

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From: bs783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Fubler Harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Animation Festivals
Date: 5 Oct 1992 18:18:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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After coming home from Animation:The Movie (another Spike and Mike
animation festival movie) there's something I still can't figure out.

Has anyone seen a short from Japan in any of these festivals?
I've yet to see any in the past three years.
Anyone?


-Jay Harvey
Tri-A VP
Anime Hasshin member
(bs783@cleveland.freenet.edu)
"Kasuga Kyosuke:The Ross Perot of Anime"
From: rcfg@chem.ucsd.edu (Fahey group)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: MS Gundam Film #1
Date: 29 Sep 1992 06:28:43 GMT
Organization: University of California San Diego, Chemistry
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In article <1a8lsmINNm0g@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as413@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric William Paslick) writes:
>
>Most Gundam fans I know HATE the designs from Gundam Sentinals, although
>they do love the GP03S.  The Gundam Sentinals are grossly overdone, and
>look like they could barely move.  In their own way, they appear almost
>as inarticulate as the original Gundam designs.

I agree that Sentinel designs are overdone and NOT suitable for
animation (unless you have $$$$ to spend). Also, the specs for
Sentinel mechas are exceedingly high and most mechas are armed
with ZZ class weapons. After all, Sentinel is a series FOR 
modelers and mecha otakus. :)


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From: n029gf@tamuts.tamu.edu (Michael Williams)
Subject: Clown Gang
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:11:25 GMT

Being the only member of what used to be the Clown Gang on the net, I suppose
I can answer any questions about them...to some extent.  The Clown Gang broke
up a few years ago, and is now Dallas Operator 7g, The Anime Subtitling Guild,
and Crusher Dan.  There are a few other people in the Dallas/Fort Worth area
that were in the Clown Gang that are producing subtitled anime without signing
it.  Oh well, such is the way of the Otaku.

	Captain "Doing my best to keep in touch with the Dallas groups
		while I'm stuck in College Station" Woodchuck

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From: dcha@flex.com (Doug Cha)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Black Friday (why does it have to end?!)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 21:17:12 HST
Organization: Flex Information Network [Hawaii] 808.531.3539

takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi) writes:

> In article <1992Sep25.024804.1165@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_beddoerj@ccsvax.sfasu.e
> >*sigh*
> >
> >Well, here it is, folks.
> >September 25, 1992.
> >This is the day that Ranma 1/2 dies. :(
>
> Well, farewell Ranma.  May you see further success in the manga...
>
> >(Dammit!  Yes, I'm pissed!  Why is it that they have to go an cancel a
> >perfectly great show???  Life, as they say, ain't fair. :( )
>
> Poor ratings?  :-)
> I may be starting yet another flame war (but what's one more? :-)), but
> I didn't think that Ranma 1/2 Nettouhen was *that* good.  Yes, it
> did have its share of good to great episodes, but overall I think
> that it was.....ok....

        It was more than a *good* series, but..

        I have to agree at least a little with you..  Ranma has lots of
EXCELLENT episodes, but there are quite a few really stupid episodes.  It's
kind of inconsistant in the story quality, and the fact that little has changed
in Ranma and Akane in 100 episodes kinda irritates me too.
        Makes you think twice about buying the Ranma LD set when (if) it comes
out.   I've seen about 80% of the episodes so far..  how about you?

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From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: Re: "You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll turn hentai" [was: misc anime...]
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:28:11 GMT

aoki@erewhon.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Paul M. Aoki) writes:
>>BTW, a lot of people seem to think that the Gainax "jiggle" originated
>>with GUNBUSTER.  Surely any hentai worth his saltpeter can name the 
>>video (and character, and scene) that actually started the Gainax 
>>jiggle-fest ..

I'm not sure what it says about me if I'm right, but I'd guess the
Daicon IV animation, with the Daicon bunny girl, when she turns around
the first time you see her - maybe it's just me, but I noticed a
distinct jiggle that wasn't the poor picture quality...
-- 
Bill "Whassamatter?!  Can't you take a joke?!" Barnes   wbarnes@sura.net
Disclaimer:  The author apologizes for any thought-provoking material he may
	     have accidentally included and promises not to do it again.
Datclaimer:  My employers wouldn't WANT to share some of my opinions.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: jis@panix.com (Jack Szwergold)
Subject: Rape in ANIME
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 06:09:45 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

In <Bv4G1A.Ho3@iat.holonet.net> guest@iat.holonet.net (HoloNet Guest Services) writes:

>Also, Whats with the Japanese fascination with phantasmagorical violence
>and rape ?? What audience are films like this and Wandering Kid aimed at ?
>Do theyalso make films were men get raped ? Or is it always women ??

I have no idea where it comes from, but it scares the living sh-t out of
me.  I mean, do you know about the _Rapeman_ manga?  It's about this guy
who just rapes women and .... (get this) the women love him for it.  Stuff
like that makes me go insane!  What is up with them? (Meaning the
Japanese).  Their regular _adult_ videos (Non-Anime) don't really have the
level of sexists violence that exists in ANIME (I could be wrong, since
I've only seen a few Jap Adult videos).  I don't know what else to say
.... While I can can tolerate bad scripts and stuff like that in ANIME,
absolute, and unwarranted sexual violence pisses me off.....

Jack
jis@panix.com

PS: I used to work for a comic company (Catalan Communications) who
imported a lot of adult stuff from europe (Milo Manara and stuff like
that).  Once, we got a promo book from a French publisher that was done by
this Japanese artist (Don't remember his name).  All it contained were
comic-like pictures of oriental women being violated in ways that are too
vile to believe (One had huge leeches crawling in and out of one girl;
with blood also!)

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From: afj9838@rigel.tamu.edu (JOHNSON, AARON FLEMING)
Subject: Re: my ignorance..
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:25:00 GMT

In article <RN0yRB3w165w@west.darkside.com>, draven@west.darkside.com (The Raven) writes...
>forgive my ignorance but who is Kasuga Kyosuke?  and what anime is that 
>from?  thanx for your patience.
> 
>                 /(The Raven
>          0=====<*[//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\>
>                 \(Cryptic Swordsman

	Oh, no one in particular.  Just the main character for Kimagure Orange
Road.  Just an average, run-of-the-mill, seen-one-seen-'em-all, teenage 
telekinetic with an overactive imagination and a penchant for getting himself
into large amounts of trouble and into embarassing love trianges.  Just the
founder of the Madoka fan club and her main worshipper.  Just the recipient of
Hikaru-chan's undying affection and Yusaku's undying hatred.  That's all.  
Like I said, no one important.  :):):):):):)
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From: rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: A SERIOUS new newsgroup suggestion...
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:29:31 GMT
Organization: MAWL - Mudd Alums Without Lives

In article <1992Sep28.175651.16286@wdl.loral.com> dcb@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Predecrement David) writes:
>I bet most who would balk at:

>rec.arts.animation  (Charter includes all, but convention is western)
>rec.arts.animation.anime (Charter and convention is anime)

>Would vote for:

>rec.arts.animation.western (Charter and convention is western)
>rec.arts.animation.anime (Charter and convention is anime)

Well, I'd vote against them all (except the first  :-).

Doesn't group history play any role here?

r.a.anime was *first*.  r.a.animation came into being after several
irked anime fans started complaining about the growing presence of
non-anime topics showing up in r.a.a.

As I said before, it is bad precedent to put the parent group under
the hierarchy of the daughter group.  (Whether this has occurred
before, I do not know.)

I am not as sure about the rest of r.a.anime's history.  The two that
I remember seem to conflict.  One is that r.a.anime arose out of the
Urusei Yatsura mailing list and started with a charter devoted to the
discussion of anime.  This account has problems with the bickering
that went on during the (re-)creation of r.a.animation.

The second version is that r.a.animation was a low-traffic newsgroup
that was taken over by anime fans and renamed r.a.anime.  Because the
original group charter allowed for all animation, non-anime topics
were still allowed much to the annoyance of several more vocal
r.a.anime members, leading to the re-creation of r.a.animation.  It is
possible that during the CFD for re-creation, some anal-retentive in
news.groups might have suggested placing anime under animation.
Either it failed, or it never happened.

I'm leaning toward the second, but someone who has been on this group
for longer than four years could clarify.  Also, both accounts can be
reconciled by arguing that the popularity of the UY mailing list was
the main justification in renaming the group to r.a.anime.

Anyone been here since before 1988?

However, I would vote for

rec.arts.japan.anime and rec.arts.japan.manga

The only problem being that there is no rec.arts.japan.

Agitator
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From: donsw@cs.cornell.edu (Donald Wihardja)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: #1 ED: KOR: ED1 "Natsu no Mirage" translation/lyrics
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:29:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Sep29.152928.7045
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853

>Natsu no MIRAAJU (Summer mirage) - Wada Kanako
>"Kimagure Orange Road" ending theme (1987)

Could anyone tell me which CD this song comes from. (I know it comes
from KOR, but which of their CD has it.) Also the "Tell me, tell me"
opening song. 

Thanks.

Donald Wihardja
Otaku-in-the-making
From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: bandwidth  (was Re: Stupid Clucomp Tricks)
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 14:44:10 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <Bv397K.3Ap@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> wai@sage.cc.purdue.edu writes:
 >         As matter of interest, does anyone still has a statistic on
 >         how much traffic here in r.a.a. a day?
 >         Seems like something ranging 50-100 a day to me.
 >  
 >         SInce the statistic stoped earlier this year, I'm somewhat... lost.

Hitoshi still compiles and posts the stats each month/quarter/year...
Sad to say, I was the leading poster for August (LIFE????), as well as
for the current quarter... I'm anxiously awaiting his posting of the
stats for September and the full quarter now...

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From: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Subject: Re: Ken Tsai as Expo Chair
Reply-To: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:32:34 GMT

In article <19tetlINN1q6@bigboote.WPI.EDU> gryphon@wpi.WPI.EDU (Don't Let's Start) writes:
>[...]
>
>Y'know, it's suddenly occurred to me that, between my mental instability
>some days back, the "let's break up r.a.a." thing, and the con wars, that
>this newsgroup has become exactly the way rec.arts.startrek was last year
>at this time...annoyingly tense.
>
>I think we all need to reduce our caffeine intake, kick speed, relax our 
>sphincters a little, whatever it takes, and calm the hell down...
>
>...I'll try it willingly...
>
>...anyone else?
>
>--G.

That's the best idea I've seen in a while...

I'm willing...

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach)
Subject: Re: Akira and American Producer (Director?)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:13:25 GMT

In article <axolotl.717999506@syzygy>, axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair) writes:
> vray@cs2.cs.oki.co.jp (Miho NISHIDA) writes:
>  >Yesterday on EX tv (a late night showbiz show) they had interview with
>  >an American director who did Die Hard and Lethal Weapon3.  When asked
>  >if he watched any japanese films and if he did, which ones did he like,
>  >he answered yes, and Akira.
> 
> Actually, John McTiernan directed Die Hard and Richard Donner directed
> LW3 ... I think.  Anyway, I like both of those directors. :-)

Maybe Griffin was thinking of Joel Silver, who produced both.

ANd given the kinds of movies Silver likes to finance, it's not surprising
he liked AKIRA.  :-)
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From: ramberg@futon.SFSU.EDU (James Ramberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: HELP
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:35:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: nic.1992Sep29.103548.2769
Organization: San Francisco State University


 Usenet  history has shown time and time again that these letters are either
 set ups for something else or a prank on on some poor person who had left 
themselves logged on. Or, at the very best, the writer is incredibly naive on
 what they set themselves up for. Remember, if it seems too good to be true, it usually is.


Re: Ni hao in a previo8us post:
 My experience was  a former girlfriend who was a Mandarian speaker (my
 current one is a Canotonese speaker) it is usally used alone as a short
greeting.. Usdually one says Ni hao ma ? which litterally means how
are you ??? ( the ma, as I understand is needed to turn it into a question)

Cheers..

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