From: RFARR@NOVELL.COM (Rich Farr)
Subject: Re: Univel Server vs. 3.11 Server
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:26:34 GMT

>>if I run a Univel client, can I do management via telnet, or X from   
>>a Univel based client to my sparcstation or whatever. Syscon via X
>>or syscon via telnet is what I think I want ?

>Rich will correct me if I am wrong but I imagine the UNIXware personal
>edition will come with utilities containing similar functionality to
>SYSCON, PCONSOLE and your other favorites.

Unfortunately, UnixWare does not include NetWare administration utilities 
such as SYSCON and PCONSOLE.  It does supply all necessary utilities for 
Unix administration.  I have been told that the SYSCON type utilities won't 
be too long in coming, but nothing official.  For now, the workaround, if 
you need to manage NetWare from UnixWare is to do it via a DOS (merge) 
window, and run the DOS versions of SYSCON, PCONSOLE....

>As for X, the X server that is the UNIXware personal edition screen, keyboard
>and mouse plus the X clients that are the UNIXware applications themselves
>are kind of interesting. They use X over the Novell IPX protocol as apposed
>to the more "traditional" TCP/IP protocol. I was chatting to a Univel guy
>on one of our trade show booths on this very subject and the following
>facts are (were?) true.
>
>  1) The UNIXware X clients speak to the UNIXware X server using
>     a shared memory interface when they are running on one and
>     the same machine. In other words, it's fast and no networking
>     protocols get "in the way".
>
>  2) When the UNIXware X Clients (applications) and X-Server are on
>     different UNIXware machines, IPX is used as the underlying transport.
>     I imagine they actually use SPX (Rich?).

To be honest, I'm not sure.  From my knowledge of the situation, I 
also assume it would be SPX.

>  3) The UNIXware X over IPX implementation *is* compatible with
>     Quarterdecks Desqview/X which is the other famous X over IPX
>     implementation. This means you can run DOS apps over on a Desqview/X
>     system and have them displaying on your UNIXware desktop. It also
>     means you you can run UNIXware apps on, say, the UNIXware Application
>     server and have them displaying on your Desqview/X desktop.
>
>Pretty powerfull stuff really. It certainly kicks Windows NTs bottom in
>terms of raw network computing functionality, even if our chums up in
>Redmond do manage to deliver on the few simple networking scraps that
>they have promised for NT.

>Where was I? Oh yes.... if the UNIXware X implementation is capable of
>using TCP/IP (when installed) as well as IPX then X "things" could go
>on between UNIXware and your SPARCstations too. I forgot to ask about
>that during my chat so perhaps Rich can jump in?

I'm using X via TCP/IP on my UnixWare box.  I can do all of the above using 
DexviewX with no problem.  I haven't tried to go any X stuff to a SPARC yet, 
but there should be absolutely no problem, since UnixWare does tout a full 
implementation of TCP/IP (app. server....with personal edition it is an add-
on).

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