HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mwmv@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (Michael Mogensen-Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Midnight Sun Episode
Summary: Alaskans reportedly hate NX
Organization: Vanderbilt University Mathematics Department
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:08:48 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.001543.29524@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> lw2c@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Levi  Wallach) writes:
> . . . why doesn't there seem to be any Alaskan's who subscribe to this
>group?  Don't tell me noone has access to Usenet and/or watched NEXP
>up there?

Last year I read an article (it escapes me where) that implied that our
beloved NX is not popular in the 49th state.  

Obviously I don't know how much truth there is to this article's claims,
but I have my doubts.   The Alaskans quoted in
article expressed the opinion that the show left the impression that
residents of their state were all eccentric hicks and (pause for effect)
that the native Cicelians were DUMBER THAN JOEL!!!!

BAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAA!!!

Although he has grown up and wised up extensively in the last year, in
all areas except the medical arcania that impresses medical school
professors and damn few others, Joel is sadly retarded in his
devlopment.  With the _possible_ exception of Shelly he is more lacking
in common sense and maturity than anyone else in town.

Admirers of Joel, flame on!
mike
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From: mexicotb@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Brian)
Subject: Re: Canoe last night
Summary: can you canoe too?
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:35:13 GMT

In article <BvC6sy.JI0.2@cs.cmu.edu>, br@cs.cmu.edu (Bill Ross) writes:
> 
>     Perhaps I'm being picky, but the canoe on last night's show
>     was just a little too much.  It was a brand-shiny-new
>     plastic Old Town and they made real sure that you saw that
>     name on it.  Whose canoe was it anyway?  Fleischman probably
>     doesn't have a canoe but Ed would.  Would Ed have a brand new
>     fiberglass canoe with not a speck of dirt on it?  I doubt
>     he could even afford it.  Were the props people too lazy to
>     find a canoe to fit Ed, or is this a product placement
>     scheme?  What other examples of product placement have
>     folks noticed?  Apple Macs, certainly.
> 
>     Bill


Bill--The canoe in question is in all probablility made of kevlar, not
plastic or fiberglass.  This would put it in the price range of $1800
and up (I once worked for an Old Town dealer).  What really struck me
about the canoe, though, was that it was clear that neither Rob Morrow
or Darren Burroughs knew how to paddle one--they were ALL OVER that
river to the point that I wondered if they could ever beach it.
Thanks to the magic of editing it was accomplished.  BTW, the person
who doubled for Maggie in her canoe wasn't much better.  So much for
versimilitude.  If you have a tape, watch Joel and Ed in the canoe
again.  It's really pretty funny.


Brian Mexicott


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From: aml@world.std.com (Andrew M Langmead)
Subject: Re: NX TAPES NEEDED
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:22:38 GMT

If they can sell episodes of "The Dinosaurs" at the local supermaket, I
cant' see why they don't sell video tapes of a show that can bear repeated
viewing.
-- 
|Andrew Langmead - A frustrated Mac/Unix programmer stuck in an MS-DOS job    |
|Usenet=aml@world.std.com      |S. O'Conner "We Live in a dangerous Age       |
|bix=a.langmead CI$=72411,1560 | To say how you feel is to lay your own grave"|
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From: skeeter@skatter.usask.ca
Subject: Re: Season's premier, loud musical score?
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:46:15 GMT

From article <1992Sep30.185539.28910@indetech.com>, by alix@indetech.com (Alexandria North):
> In article <1992Sep29.200015.23153@leland.Stanford.EDU> sgsimon@leland.Stanford.EDU (Steve Simon) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep29.060211.16041@onion.rain.com> jeff@onion.rain.com (Jeff Beadles) writes:
>>>
>>>Is it just me, or was the premier this evening's musical score VERY loud?
>>>It almost seemed like a different show, but still good none the less.
>>
>>I agree.  Several other posters have commented on the CONTENT of the
>>music on the season premiere, but what struck me was the VOLUME (ie.
>>loudness).  There were several scenes where I had trouble hearing what
>>the characters were saying due to loud music or other background noise
>>(esp. the birds).  Was this a problem with my cable company somehow,
>>or did other people notice this too?
>>
> 
> The volume was terrible! The scene in the Brick, where Shelley talks to 
> Maggie about turning thirty, was awful! I almost couldn't hear the 
> dialog over the music. I live in San Jose, and get TCI cable...there are 
> several different cable companies in the SF Bay Area, so I don't know 
> if it was TCI or what.
> 
> Did anyone who lives outside the San Francisco Bay Area have the music
> volume problem?
> 
> Alexandria
> -- 

Up here in SASKATOON, SK (ring any bells?  No, Shelley isn't like ANY
Saskatonian I have ever known...and our Hockey team is the Saskatoon BLADES)
the volume was fine.  Must be your cable co.


skeeter@skatter.usask.ca			no nifty .sig
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From: William R Thompson <wthomps@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: Season Premiere
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:13:22 GMT

In article <6888@transfer.stratus.com> you write:
>I thought the best line was when Ed was helping Joel to move Maggie.
>
>She looked at Ed (in delerium) and said "Kevin...?"
>Ed responded in typical deadpan fashion, "No, it's Ed. Kevin got squashed by 
>a satellite."
>

No.  Actually it was Rick that got hit by the satellite.

Bill   
<wthomps@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Astrophysicist Wannabe

" 'Oh, grow up, Fleischmann.' "
     --Maggie
From: djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: What exactly did Joel say?
Date: 3 Oct 92 21:40:38 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

>The "I'll" is not loud, but it IS there. 

I heard "Now try not to...", but I didn't record it.  I figured that
in her dilerium, Maggie was the one to require the warnings...
-- 
Darin Johnson
djohnson@ucsd.edu  --  Toy cows in Africa
From: robby+@CMU.EDU (Robert Bruce Findler)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: stuff
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:19:12 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

On 28-Sep-92 in stuff                        
user Rosaleen Dhu@pip.cc.bran writes:
>Some more loose ends:
>	1. Don't pick on They Might Be Giants. They are a good band...IF you
>like that sort of thing. If you don't, no big deal. (As a music major, I'm
>qualified to tell you that, technically, their voices are quite good, as is
>some of their music.)
Really? I always found them to be extremely nasal (esp on the first
album) But, then again, I'm only a music minor (well, taking the
prerequisites for a music minor) :)

>	2. In the same episode of 90210 that Andrea referred to Cicely, she
>also referred to my school, Brandeis. My 12-year-old sister would like to 
>know what other schools were referred to. Anyone know> There must be a 90210
>newsgroup--anyone know?
alt.tv.bh90210 is the newsgroup.

>	4. Victor: In mentioning the mythical powers of "Toy Cows In Africa",
>you forgot the most important one: If you play it backwards, maybe it will
>give you The Question. (for non-Hitchhiker's guide freaks, the Answer is
>42 and nobody knows wot the Question is.)
Actually I believe that the Answer and the Question cannot both be known
in the same universe. Oh well.

Robby
From: pej@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Phil Jensen)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:08:50 GMT
Subject: Re: KBHR origin
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp

In article <23SEP199221185668@romeo.caltech.edu> waynebro@romeo.caltech.edu (Broughton, Wayne Jeremy) writes:

> My apologies if some completely obvious or well-known answer
> is eluding me, but what is the significance if any of the call 
> letters BHR in the radio station name KBHR?  (That is what it 

I always thought that the BHR was for BRR as in Brr ... it's cold outside.
They couldn't use KBRR since there is a radio station in Leadville Colo
that has that call sign.

-----------
Phil Jensen

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From: fishman@tracker.rtp.dg.com (Mike Fishman)
Subject: Re: Canoe last night
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 16:19:53 GMT
Organization: Data General Corp., Westboro, MA

In article <BvD8Aq.BC1@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> mexicotb@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Brian) writes:
>In article <BvC6sy.JI0.2@cs.cmu.edu>, br@cs.cmu.edu (Bill Ross) writes:
>> 
>>     Perhaps I'm being picky, but the canoe on last night's show
>>     was just a little too much.  It was a brand-shiny-new
>>     plastic Old Town and they made real sure that you saw that
>
>
>Bill--The canoe in question is in all probablility made of kevlar, not
>plastic or fiberglass.  This would put it in the price range of $1800
>and up (I once worked for an Old Town dealer).  What really struck me
>

The first thing I noticed, was how easy it was for the two guys to lift that
canoe and carry it, one handed to the water. Then, it being so NEW, and clean
(and yes, expensive) it seemed VERY out of place in Cicely..

As for Joel not being a very good canoe-er.. We "X" new yorkers don't get much
chance to canoe around central park lake ;-)

						Mike Fishman
{									      }
{These are strictly my opinions and not necessarily those of my employer      }
{									      }
{									      }
{ PS: email: fishman@tracker.webo.dg.com .or. mike_fishman@DGC.ceo.dg.com     }
From: revillot@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Judy Tolliver)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: continuity lacking
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:16:37 GMT
Followup-To: alt.tv.northern-exp
Organization: Dept. of MSE at Illinois-Urbana

The season, so far, seems to totally lack continuity.  The characters seem
to have ceased their development from last season.  Case in point:  Last
night Maggie is surprised that Joel offered to help her.  But just the week
before, he paddled up a river to do just that.

Another thought:  It would have been interesting if Maggie did decide to
sleep with Joel, which I believe last season was building up to anyway, and
then just before doing the deed, Joel falls asleep.

Am I expecting too much from this show?
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From: hmc6442@ultb.isc.rit.edu (H.M. Chau)
Subject: Re: One more time- Who did Toy Cows?
Originator: hmc6442@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: World
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:29:10 GMT

Just to let you know that the search for Toy Cows is still going strong:

I was called back last Wednesday, by the lead singer of _Chance_.
(The one who was "sittin on a moonbeam, watchin all the cows...")
She was excited that we had an interest in their song.

She is mailing me info and I should receive it ANY day now!
I will have complete info on what is available and how to get it.

BTW, They have a CD album in the works that they hope will be available
by Christmas.

This was once again posted for,
AAron@sun.soe.clarkson.edu
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From: 001201c@ace.acadiau.ca (NATHANIEL FISHER CRAWFORD)
Subject: Re: GOOD MORNING DOCTOR FLEISEMAN?
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 20:29:13 GMT

In article <002369c.13.718043174@ace.acadiau.ca> 002369c@ace.acadiau.ca (WILLIAM FREDERICK CUSTANCE) writes:
>From: 002369c@ace.acadiau.ca (WILLIAM FREDERICK CUSTANCE)
>Subject: GOOD MORNING DOCTOR FLEISEMAN?
>Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:26:14 GMT
>Sorry 'bout the name guys...But I'd like to settle a small dispute.
>I say Marilynn has said "Good morning Dr. Fleichman",pardon the spelling.
>He says Marilynn says "Good morning"
>Who's right? Who's wrong? We both wrong? 
>			
Marilyn HAS said "good morning Dr. Flieshman", friendly. Last season.
>
>
>			WF
>			C 
>
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From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Subject: Re: Holling and Maggie getting it together
Keywords: and  
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:11:15 GMT

In article <BvnvzK.vt@news.fai.com> pault@ossi.com (Paul Taylor) writes:
>
>USA is showing Quantum Leap in syndication, and one of the episodes was
>set during a performance of "Man of La Mancha". Johm Collum was playing
>Don Quixote, and I think it was Janine Turner playing a makeup person
>who was after him. I could be mistaken ??
>
>I hope this does not mean that Holling is about to be killed by Jessie,
>or suffer some other fate. What will Shelly do ??? -:)

That would be quite a trick.

But then, getting hit by a satellite is quite a trick.



--
"Sounds interesting....  Sounds interesting...."
				-- Homer Simpson
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From: saiki@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Eileen Saiki)
Subject: Re: The opener
Organization: Colorado Center for Astrodynamics Research
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:12:55 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.202412.24019@colorado.edu>, saiki@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Eileen Saiki) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct1.173207.23753@news.vanderbilt.edu>, mwmv@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (Michael Mogensen-Vermillion) writes:
|> |> My wife and I went back and replayed our videotape of the episode last
|> |> night.  Although he mumbled the line to some extent especially the
|> |> first word, I played it three times and _I_ am sure he said
|> |> 
|> |>             I'll try not to get excited
|> |>             ^^^^
|> 
|> 
|>    At last!! That's what I heard!!!!
     
        Let me reprase that:

          I also heard:
           "I'll try not to get excited"

       The "At last part" was my relief that that someelse
        heard the same thing!  
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From: William R Thompson <wthomps@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Season Premiere
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:32:48 GMT



Overall, I thought this was a great episode.  The music, however,
was terrible compared to what is normal for the show.  I just
have one question:  Did this episode have a new writer?  A few of the
characters seemed WAY out of character.  Joel wasn't his usual hyper,
insecure, and defensive self, while I found it very, very hard to believe
that Marilyn would want to learn how to drive.  Also, the scene where
Ruth-Ann smashes Maurice's recorder didn't seem like typical Ruth-Ann
behavior.  It was a great way to begin the season (I'm starting to 
see Mag's independent side again, which I missed terribly), but something
was amiss with a few of the characters.  What gives?
Long live Northern Exposure, the best damn TV show ever....


Bill
<wthomps@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Astrophysicist Wannabe

" 'Oh, grow up, Fleischmann.' "
    --Maggie 

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From: pacific@polari.online.com
Subject: Test
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix.  (206) 328-4944 (all lines telebit-equipped)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 16:05:00 GMT


  Test
From: dcleek@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dick Cleek)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Alaskan Bears
Date: 6 Oct 1992 14:21:45 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: na
Reply-To: dcleek@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: dcleek@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <1992Oct5.163033.24565@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, by ttw@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (thomas.t.wetmore..iv):
> Bears are not a problem in the wild (only exceptions: polar bears at
> all times [but they are never in the interior]; black and grizzlies when
> you are between a mama bear and her cubs; all bears when influenced by
> garbage dumps and human handouts).  Stories of maulings and other horrors
> are cheap hype.  By simply making noises while hiking any bears around

Like I said before some of you jumped up and  down making pedantic noises...
[almost] always noise  will frighten away a bear  with the exceptions
nicely noted by Mr. Wetmore above.

Note that the hiker killed in Glacier yesterday was involved w/a female
and cubs...I'm curious as to whether he was wearing bear bells, a common
technique in Glacier?
-- 
..........   .........................         .......................
: |_|\/\/ :   Dick Cleek                        dcleek@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
:.centers.:   Univ.of Wisconsin Centers         dcleek@uwcmail.uwc.edu
From: whelan@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (John T. whelan)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Northern Exposure and Beverly Hills 90210
Date: 28 Sep 92 04:09:43 GMT

donna@bae.bellcore.com (Donna Feliciano) writes:

>I don't know how many Northern Exposure fans also watch
>90210, but last night on 90210, all of the Bevely Hills
>kids were talking about where to go to college.  Andrea,
>the very intelligent editor of the school paper who really
>wants to go to Yale, says something like "What am I supposed
>to do? Go to college for 4 years in Cicely, Alaska????"

	Well, it could have been a lot worse.  She could have said
"Ithaca, New York". :-) :-) :-)
				John Whelan
				Cornell University Class of '91
				No regrets
--
	"Do you know what Freud said about dreams of flying?
	 It means you're really dreaming about having sex."
	"Indeed?  Tell me then, what does it mean when
	 you dream about having sex?"  -- Sandman #15
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From: nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith)
Subject: our Flying Man
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 21:17:48 GMT

i noticed our Flying Man, Bill Irwin, last night in the
Steve Martin network (NBC) movie, "My Blue Heaven".  He
played one of Rick Maranis' sidekick FBI agents with an
uncontrollable urge to dance at times.

- nate
From: berthiau@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Andre Berthiaume)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Beer and Canoe
Date: 1 Oct 92 17:53:45 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

You know what that mean dontcha?  COMMERCIALISM!  Hidden advertising!
It's already happening in the movies and now it's happening to 
television!  ARGH!


I think I feel much better now......  Hello Doc?  Yes, it's me again.
Yes, another appointment.


- Eva


(ignore following .sig)



--
	Andre Berthiaume 	 |  "Sometimes you're the windshield,
				 |   Sometimes you're the bug"
    berthiau@iro.umontreal.ca    |			
				 |	       Dire Straits, The Bug
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From: rizzoe@FASECON.ECON.NYU.EDU (Emily Rizzo)
Subject: John Collum
Organization: New York University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:26:46 GMT


I'm new to this group so please forgive me if this is a question which 
has been raised before (and yes I did read the FAQ).

Is John Cullum, the actor who plays Holling Vincoeur, the same one who 
appeared over 20 years ago in a tv spy series, can't remember the name but 
he (at least I think it was he) played the Russian sidekick, Illyia 
Kuriakin (sp), of an American named Napoleon Solo.  It was actually quite a 
good series, as I recall.  Anyone out there old enough to remember?

Emily
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 30 Sep 1992 09:44:06 CDT
From: Nancy Bulinski <U27468@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: "Season Premiere"
 <1992Sep29.142846.26464@news.acns.nwu.edu>
 <1992Sep29.124407.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu>

In article <1992Sep29.124407.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu>,
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) says:
>
>In article <1992Sep29.142846.26464@news.acns.nwu.edu>,
>velour@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michelle Wiener) writes:
>
>> had been struck by lightning while working on an oil rig.  So the curse
>
>product of Maggie's fever-induced mind?
>
>It sorta seemed to me that that scene was created in Maggie's head as a
>way for her to deal with all of her insecurities.  In this case "Steve"

I agree here.  That Maggie would write letters to these men points to
unresolved feelings she must have (had, hopefully :-)) about them, and
the kind of relationships she finds herself in over and over again.

And I wouldn't be surprised if "Steve" made a surprise visit to
Maggie either.  Not at all.  Anything is possible :-)


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From: pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu (Paul Ciszek)
Subject: Khris Kwote (was: Re: KBHR T-Shirts)
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 03:35:02 GMT

Jason Lee Smith <js06+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:


>"You bluffed me. I don't like people bluffing me. It disturbs my sense
>of reality."

That should read "..It makes me question my perception of reality."

--
Paul Ciszek, pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu | No nation was ever drunk when wine was
                                   | cheap.   -- Thomas Jefferson
From: tsirbasc@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Tsirbas Christos)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: KBHR origin
Date: 2 Oct 92 02:00:21 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Concerning WHFS:

Everybody knows that HFS stands for Hierarhical File System, which is the way
that a Mac stores directories.  I guess W=Wonderful.  Strike up one more for theMac, the official computer of Cicely, Alaska!

Chris Tsirbas
tsirbasc@brise.ere.umontreal.ca
From: hensley@melkor.enet.dec.com (Irene Hensley)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Chris-in-the-morning
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:19:31 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation



Maybe I noticed this because I was already keyed into the possibility that
Chris has a past_to_hide, but I twigged on his getting his engineers
certificate as not only a way of becoming 'legit' in his field, but an
inadvertent way of making himself visible.  This looked like a "seed" for 
an episode later in the season where his past concould confront him.

just my taking note...


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       / /  /  customer training	     / "hensley@melkor.enet.dec.com"
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From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: sex & death & Joel
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:31:31 GMT
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Oct2.165233.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu> bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.025843.26200@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu 
>(Paul Ciszek) writes:
>
>> Prediction:  When Rob Morrow's contract runs out, Joel will have sex with
>> Maggie.  Afterwards, he will be mauled by a bear.
>
>Or considering the topics in this news-group...he could be mauled by a beer.
>
>:^)

He could be mauled by a bear after he gets back to NYC.  That would
be strange....


--
"Sounds interesting....  Sounds interesting...."
				-- Homer Simpson
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From: z8tah@zohar.gsfc.nasa.gov (Theresa A. Held)
Subject: Re: What exactly did Joel say?
Reply-To: z8tah@calvin.gsfc.nasa.gov 
Organization: NASA/GSFC NCCS
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 11:46:51 GMT

I was sure it was 'I'll try not to get.." .

This type of thing would be a great plot for a show.  Have some of the
people witness the same event and have the rest of the cast try to figure 
what really happened from the eye witness reports.  It could be a very
interesting way to see some unconscious attitudes of the characters.
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