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From: hohngo@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (HOANG NGO)
Subject: Re: Why is it so?
Organization: Halls of Residence, Monash University 
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:33:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.101034.1400@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au> jetherid@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (Jason Etheridge) writes:
>From: jetherid@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (Jason Etheridge)
>Subject: Re: Why is it so?
>Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 10:10:34 GMT

>svenema@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (Sven Venema) writes:

>>Something that's been bugging me for quite a while now is the bit in the
>>Belgariad where Belgarath takes Zedar into the ground. I don't see why
>>Zedar can't get out of the ground. Belgarath's reason why he is stuck there
>>is that no one can exactly emulate someone else's mind. Why can't Zedar
>>just tunnel out? Maybe it's me, but I don't really find Belgarath's reason 
>>very convincing.

>No, it's not very convincing.  However, he does go on to say that part
>of what he did was that Zedar would never starve down whereever he is,
>entombed in rock.  So he has been chained within some kind of 
>sorcerous prison, not just the rock?

>Reminds me of Bewitched, where one witch could not undo what another
>had done...

>All in all, looks like he may have stumbled a little there...

>Why did Zedar kill Durnik anyway?  He could have just blown him across the
>room.  But since it was Durnik's (temporary) death that allowed Polgara to
>resist Torak, he had to die, and what Zedar did was necessary.

>Why entomb him for all eternity for being a tool of destiny?

>Jason.

	It is explained in the Seeress of Kell. Torak uses madness as a 
weapon against the child of light and his/her comrades.

 
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From: apj@cs.sun.ac.za (Andries Dippenaar)
Subject: Re: _The Sapphire Rose_
Organization: University of Stellenbosch
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 09:28:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.032711.6502@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> 2120158@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU () writes:
>In article <86299@netnews.upenn.edu> koczaja@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Donna L. Koczaja) writes:
>>Hello, I was at my local bookstore last night, and I asked the clerk if he could tell
>>me when _The Sapphire Rose_ was due out in paperback.  He looked it up and said it 
>>would not be released in paperback until May 1993...sigh.

>  Well, the paperback version of the last book of the Elenium has been released
>here for the last 3 months (since may I belive).
>Matthew Wadwell

Is that the large paperback or the regular size?  I know that the Ellenium 
(at least the first two) was initially released first in hardcover, then 
large paperback and only then in the regular sized paperback.  I think 
Granada produced the large paperback which is priced sort of midway between 
the regular paperback and the hardcover edition.

Andries
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From: boxfield@ibmpcug.co.uk (Paul J Snelling)
Subject: Re: The New Trilogy of Eddings
X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this article are those of the author
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Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 09:22:33 GMT

>Well, I read a copy I checked out from the library, & it had a little blurb 
>at the end saying to watch for the further adventures of Sparhawk & his friends
>in the Tamuli (which is where that giantess the was so protective of Elahna
>was from)... I don't have any further info on it, tho....


Seen the first volume in Hardback in my local bookshop.
Havent bought/read it yet though...

Paul.
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From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: The Elenium, the Malloreon, and the Belgariad.  Questions!
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:25:28 PDT

In article <1992Aug14.052237.28135@polari>, sparky@polari.online.com writes:
> 
> Now then.  I just read The Diamond Throne and The Ruby Knight.  The simi-
> larities between the characters and the  Belgariad's is patently obvious, and
> rather annoying at times--give me the *real* Polgara et al., not some
> simulation.

I disagree, but that's not really important.

> But, I still enjoy the books, and am wondering when "The
> Sapphire Rose" (#3 and, hopefully, last in the series) is due out.
> Probably never...Eddings and Del Rey like to keep us waiting.

Um, where are you?  I don't have my copy with me, but I'm pretty sure
that I've had mine for almost a year now.

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From: esrby@warwick.ac.uk (E.Bright)
Subject: Dryad progeny
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 07:45:48 GMT

In an attempt to start a new thread, and because the subject will shortly
become of great importance to me, I was wondering if anyone had any
thoughts on the following points which to my mind cannot be conclusively
answered.

1. All Dryads are women.
2. Dryads mate with human males to reproduce, therefore all Dryad children are
half-Dryad.

Q1. Do the above two points indicate an increasing dilution of 'true' Dryad
blood ? We are told C'nedra was 'half Dryad' and it was implied that she
was therefore 'less Dryad' than the ones still living in the woods.

Assumption: Female children born to Dryads are in fact fully Dryad <leaving
out the genetic implications of this>

Q2. So do Dryads ever bear male children ? And if so, what are they ?

There were no 'boy Dryads' mentioned in the books, so what happens to these
sons, if they exist ?

I may not have phrased the above very succinctly, but if anyone has any
thoughts on resolving the apparent contradictions, I would be very pleased to
hear from them.

Sir Helbergin@BelgariadMUSH, soon to be father to a Dryad child.
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From: kruger@math.okstate.edu (Valentine)
Subject: Re: MalloreOn ...
Organization: The Certifiably Insane [aka MUSH wizzes] 
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:51:12 GMT

In article boek@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Christopher Boek) writes:

>Hello, I am new to this newsgroup, but I have read the Belgariad and 4/5 of
>the MalloreOn, and 2/3 and a bit of the Elenium, and have to date enjoyed
>them. I just felt a need to reply to the following ...
>
>kruger@math.okstate.edu (Valentine) writes:
>
>Umm ... If we were talking about an adjective for Mallorea, then yes
>you are right. Mallorean would be the appropriate word. In this case,
>however, we are referring to a chronicle of events that take place in
>Mallorea, and I feel that MalloreOn is MUCH more appropriate in this
>regard.

	Why? It's not that I'm trying to flame you, it's just that 
I get the feeling you know some grammatical rules about english that
I don't. To me it's not logical......but then, what can you expect of
someone who's related to a scamp like Kheldar?

>And my copies say Malloreon anyway. *:)

>My 2 cents worth,
	
	Are those Tolnedran coins? They'd better be. :)

>Chris.

>|Christopher Boek                               boek@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU|
>|  Dept ElecEng, University of Melbourne,  Parkville Vic 3052 Australia |
>|_____"Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another"______|

						Cera
					aka Porenn@Belgariad
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Delaney@ValdeMUSH (emcnext.tamu.edu)|||  truths--are mine the same as 
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From: chris@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Casey)
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Subject: Re: Seeress of Kell.
Date: 16 Aug 92 20:20:16 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <adavid.5@elaine.ee.und.ac.za> adavid@elaine.ee.und.ac.za (ANGUS DAVIDSON: FOURTH) writes:
>Can anyone tell me when the Seeress of Kell and the Saphire Rose will be out 
>in paper back in South Africa
>
>Regards
>    Angus

Well, in the US, it's usually 6 months to a year after the hardback has come outthat a book is released in paperback.  Now I have seen Seeress of Kell in PB, 
so I can't really say anything about that, but as far as I know Sapphire Rose 
has *not* come out in paperback yet.  In fact, everytime I ask someone at a 
bookstore, they say it hasn't come out yet.  So I'm not sure about Seeress of 
Kell, but it looks like you've definitely got a wait on Sapphire Rose....



Chris

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From: chris@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Casey)
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Subject: Re: Shapechanging??
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:19:41 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

Well, someone sometime back was saying that each person always chose the same 
form.  Well, I guess I'm being nit-picky, but I can think of at least twice when
Garion turned into a bird: when he flew back to Riva, & at the mountain at Kell.
the second time he turned into a hawk, as did Polgara, but I don't recall the 
second time.  I guess each person has his or her own favorite form, but can 
change into a different one out of necessity (sp?!?).  Anyway.....





Chris
 
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From: kruger@math.okstate.edu (Valentine)
Subject: Re: The Elenium, the Malloreon, and the Belgariad.  Questions!
Organization: The Certifiably Insane [aka MUSH wizzes] 
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 06:41:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.052237.28135@polari> sparky@polari.online.com writes:

>Another question:  It's "MalloreOn," right?  I have the weird first
>edition (U.S.) of the hardbound "Guardians of the West," and it
>alternates nicely between Malloreon and Mallorean.  The other ones
>spell it with an O, so I guess that's correct...

	I always thought it was Mallorean (although I don't have the
books in the same state as me, so I can't check). However, I seem to
remember "Boundless Mallorea" which, logically, would become 
"Mallorean".

	Of course, I'm the same person who thought, for years, that
it was PoreEn and not PoreNn. And look at me now. :)

					C.J.

			a.k.a.  Porenn on Belgariad.

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From: boek@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Christopher Boek)
Subject: MalloreOn ...
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 04:43:03 GMT

Hello, I am new to this newsgroup, but I have read the Belgariad and 4/5 of
the MalloreOn, and 2/3 and a bit of the Elenium, and have to date enjoyed
them. I just felt a need to reply to the following ...

kruger@math.okstate.edu (Valentine) writes:

>In article <1992Aug14.052237.28135@polari> sparky@polari.online.com writes:

>>Another question:  It's "MalloreOn," right?  I have the weird first
>>edition (U.S.) of the hardbound "Guardians of the West," and it
>>alternates nicely between Malloreon and Mallorean.  The other ones
>>spell it with an O, so I guess that's correct...

>	I always thought it was Mallorean (although I don't have the
>books in the same state as me, so I can't check). However, I seem to
>remember "Boundless Mallorea" which, logically, would become 
>"Mallorean".

Umm ... If we were talking about an adjective for Mallorea, then yes
you are right. Mallorean would be the appropriate word. In this case,
however, we are referring to a chronicle of events that take place in
Mallorea, and I feel that MalloreOn is MUCH more appropriate in this
regard.

And my copies say Malloreon anyway. *:)

My 2 cents worth,

Chris.

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|_____"Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another"______|
From: chris@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Casey)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: General Question about the group
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:35:08 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

What does this mean:

Looking for articles to kill...

/: *Casting the non-existent/:

And why does it only happen when I read this group?

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From: goosen@cc.und.ac.za (Chris Goosen)
Subject: Re: Seeress of Kell.
Organization: University Of Natal (Durban)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:23:47 GMT

In article <77827@ut-emx.uucp> chris@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Casey) writes:
>Subject: Re: Seeress of Kell.
>From: chris@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Casey)
>Date: 16 Aug 92 20:20:16 GMT
>In article <adavid.5@elaine.ee.und.ac.za> adavid@elaine.ee.und.ac.za (ANGUS DAVIDSON: FOURTH) writes:
>>Can anyone tell me when the Seeress of Kell and the Saphire Rose will be out 
>>in paper back in South Africa
>>
>>Regards
>>    Angus
>
>Well, in the US, it's usually 6 months to a year after the hardback has come outthat a book is released in paperback.  Now I have seen Seeress of Kell in PB, 
>so I can't really say anything about that, but as far as I know Sapphire Rose 
>has *not* come out in paperback yet.  In fact, everytime I ask someone at a 
>bookstore, they say it hasn't come out yet.  So I'm not sure about Seeress of 
>Kell, but it looks like you've definitely got a wait on Sapphire Rose....
>
>
>
>Chris
>
I presently have both in Hardcover, I have however seen the Seeress of Kell 
in trade paperback, at Shooter and Shuter ( or is that the other way 
round :-) in Pietermaritzburg.

Cheers 
Chris
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From: tomas_e@NMRVAX.Physchem.KTH.SE (Tomas Eriksson)
Subject: Re: Unknown Eddings series??
Reply-To: tomas_e@NMRVAX.Physchem.KTH.SE
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:58:23 GMT

In article <3287@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther) writes:
>
>I really hate to poke fun at other folks, but this time I couldn't resist.
>Here's a piece of a post to rec.arts.sf.written, asking for help on
>good fantasy.....
>
>>I have thoroughly enjoyed ... David Eddings'
>>"Belgrade" ...
> ^^^^^^^^^^

I didn't know Eddings was into political thrillers! I guess _Belgrade_ 
must be about the conflict in ex-Yugoslavia... :-)

Tomas
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From: u921470@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Anthony Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Re: NEW Eddings book!!!
Date: 18 Aug 92 03:07:03 GMT
Organization: University of Tasmania (Australia)

In article <1992Aug17.205648.20570@ncsu.edu>, jhpace1@eos.ncsu.edu (Technoknight) writes:
> 

Jeremy writes a rather long review


Being new to this group I am not sure what the protocols are but is it customary to
tell everyone everything that has happens in a book that is just published?


Luckily I have read the book and think its not bad.  It's definitely different.

He does give an interesting opinion of social workers and their "symbiotic" with the
unemployed which is well worth reading.

He doesn't really seem to explore or describe any of the characters in detail however
and like his other books the characters sometimes seem a little "superfical" -
it's only my opinion and I would welcome comments (if this is not an already discussed
issue)



Perhaps Eddings is attempting to diversify in his writing style (although I beleive from
past postings that he is writing another series following or similar to the Elenium).

Anthony Chan
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From: proct_hately@hg.uleth.ca (Kintair of Hawkehaven MKA Bill Hately)
Subject: Re: Shapechanging??
Reply-To: proct_hately@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:22:58 GMT

In article <77635@ut-emx.uucp>, chris@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Casey) writes:
>Well, someone sometime back was saying that each person always chose the same 
>form.  Well, I guess I'm being nit-picky, but I can think of at least twice 
>when
>Garion turned into a bird: when he flew back to Riva, & at the mountain at 
>Kell.
>the second time he turned into a hawk, as did Polgara, but I don't recall the 
>second time.  I guess each person has his or her own favorite form, but can 
>change into a different one out of necessity (sp?!?).  Anyway.....
>Chris
BUT... Each time they turn into the same form it is the same animal ex Begarath
is always the same Wolf, Salmon, and whatever species of bird he is at that
moment (ie he's the same Hawk everytime he turns into a hawk, the same pigeon
(sp) etc) Beldin is always the same Blue banded Hawk (or whatever animal he
would turn into) Pol is the same snowy Owl every time or the same Hawk (much as
she dislikes the form etc)  - I've had this argument with my sister many times,
of course she didn't see that Errand was *Obviously* the next choice for
Godhood either :-)
Bill
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An Tir (I wouldn't dream of subjecting any corp. or Educational Institution to
        these opinions, so they certainly aren't the opinions of the UofL)
  (And I'm not an officer of the SCA so I can't have an official opinion There
              - even if I wanted to )
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From: proct_hately@hg.uleth.ca (Kintair of Hawkehaven MKA Bill Hately)
Subject: Re: New Subject: Sendaria
Reply-To: proct_hately@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:52:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.075817.10144@mr.med.ge.com>, hinz@bonfire 
(David Hinz Mfg 4-6987) writes:
>proct_hately@hg.uleth.ca (Kintair of Hawkehaven MKA Bill Hately) writes:
>: In article <avalon.713543443@coombs>, avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed) 
>: writes:
>: >
>: >And didn't many others think it was the most stupid thing to do ?
>: >(It put a person totally unsuited to the role of monarchy in that position).
>: >I wonder how much of this is true today with the democratic processes of
>: >elections and campaigning ?
>: >
>: >Darren.
>: Who says he was unsuited for the position (other then non-Sendars of course)
>: the Sendars obviously thought he was the best choice.  I'd say that any
>: contemp. Politician has nothing in common with the humble Fundor as he freely
>: admited that his position was full of $%&* :-) :-)
>: Bill  
>
>It sure would be nice if Durnik was running for president, instead of the
>two bozoes we have the option of...perhaps Sendaria had the right idea, getting
>a farmer to run the country.  God knows, any of the farmers I know would be
>more responsible...
>
>Sorry, not very Eddings related.
>
>--
>
>Dave Hinz  -  Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.  Obviously.
No problem, of course I'm Canadian, so can't say much about the choices you
have, but our choices for Prime Minister are just as bad - and we don't get to
choose them, they are whoever leads the Parties. (Also not Eddings related, but
his world was very Political too)
Bill
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An Tir (I wouldn't dream of subjecting any corp. or Educational Institution to
        these opinions, so they certainly aren't the opinions of the UofL)
  (And I'm not an officer of the SCA so I can't have an official opinion There
              - even if I wanted to )
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From: tomas_e@NMRVAX.Physchem.KTH.SE (Tomas Eriksson)
Subject: Re: The New Trilogy of Eddings
Reply-To: tomas_e@NMRVAX.Physchem.KTH.SE
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:54:31 GMT

In article <15r5jrINN3t3@fbi-news.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE>, dewal@troja.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Sanjay Dewal) writes:
>Eddings has produced another trilogy.
>...
>Unfortunately the hard cover has recently come out and it will take time
>til the paperback will be available in Germany.

Why are your book importers so slow? It's been available in paperback 
(Del Rey) in Sweden for two months or so. You are referring to the
original version and not some German translation? I only recently
discovered that _the Belgariad_ has been translated to Swedish - the
fifth book appeared in hardcover very recently. I'm a bit suspicious
about the publisher, which usually deals in children's books. That,
and the fact that the titles have been translated in a very strange
way, makes me believe that the translation perhaps isn't too good...
(I'm not planning to re-read it in Swedish.)

In _Sapphire Rose_, Eddings also announces that a new trilogy (_the 
Tamuli_), set in the same world as _the Elenium_ will be forthcoming. 
The first volume of that trilogy available in hardcover (at least in
USA and UK) before Christmas?

Tomas

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            Surface Force Group, Department of Physical Chemistry,
               Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
From: chris@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Casey)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Re: The Elenium, the Malloreon, and the Belgariad.  Questions!
Date: 16 Aug 92 20:26:13 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Aug14.052237.28135@polari> sparky@polari.online.com writes:
>simulation.  But, I still enjoy the books, and am wondering when "The
>Sapphire Rose" (#3 and, hopefully, last in the series) is due out.
>Probably never...Eddings and Del Rey like to keep us waiting.

Sapphire Rose has been out in hardback since January.  If you don't wanna wait
for paperback or pay $22.00 for the hardcover, just do what I did & check it out
at the library.... you did say you were in the US, didn't you?  Pardon me if 
I misread that....




Chris

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Subject: Seeress of Kell.
From: adavid@elaine.ee.und.ac.za (ANGUS DAVIDSON: FOURTH)
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:59:40 +0200
Organization: Electronic Eng., Univ. Natal, Durban, South Africa

Can anyone tell me when the Seeress of Kell and the Saphire Rose will be out 
in paper back in South Africa

Regards
    Angus
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