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From: susanh@ossi.com (Susan Hunts)
Subject: req for advice on using PPP
Organization: Fujitsu America, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:54:24 GMT

I apologize for the level of ignorance this question represents; I
thought I was going to have time to learn about this stuff leisurely.

The situation is that I wish to connect 2 SPARCstation2 via a phone
line.  One workstation would be at home, the other would be on the
network at the office.  Both workstations are running SunOS 4.1.1.
My tentative plan is to acquire a pair of modems (possibly Telebit
QBlazers) and to use the PPP software I obtained by ftp from ohio-state.
edu (ppp-sunos4.1p16).  My desire is to have the machine at home
seem as much like a machine on the net at the office as possible.

(At the office, we use the automounter.  I assume that from home
I would want to keep file system mounting to a minimum and only
do so when needed.)

Questions:

1. Is this a reasonable approach?  Any major drawbacks I should know
   about?  What kind of performance am I likely to see?  Any
   problems with the PPP software and SunOS 4.1.1?

2. Does building, installing, configuring, etc. require a guru?  The
   PPP software appears to have nice, clear cookbook instructions
   which can be followed by a neophyte.  Any additional hints or tips 
   someone would like to pass on?  What about setting up the modems?

3. Any comments on choice of modems?  (Cost is a factor.)  If there's
   a random modem available for free, what minimum capability should
   it have?


Any other advice (or questions I should be asking) is appreciated.

Thanks,
Susan Hunts (susanh@ossi.com)
From: pushp@nic.cerf.net (Pushpendra Mohta)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: Seeking info on PC hardware requirements for high-speed PPP
Date: 13 Aug 92 06:06:30 GMT
Organization: CERFnet

In article <1992Aug11.031705.39985@camb.com> bruce@camb.com (Barton F. Bruce) writes:
>Want an inexpensive termial server that speaks SLIP/TCP-IP/LAT ? Look at
>DEC's new DS700. Even in the 16 port version with less than full modem
>leads, I think it has more modem lead type functionality than the cisco
>MGS box sized Trouters I have seen. The 8 port version has FULL modem
>lead control. This DEC box does 57.6 and 115.2kb. That makes it a good
>choice for modem connections running 4:1 compression on top of 14.4 or
>higher, where 38.4 wastes speed. 115.2 is even fast enough for
>compression on top of the coming v.fast modems. 
>
>The 16 port one lists for 3995 I think, but a dealer here in Cambridge
>claimed to have some new ones at $2400 (Eli's for those that care). 
>

FYI:

The new Cisco 16 port terminal server ( 516-CS ) supports full modem
control and lists for $3995. It does telnet,rlogin and tn3270. Supports
PPP/CSLIP/XRemote and full routing. You can get an option for LAT. 
However, the top speed is 38400 . The ASM model does 57600.

I think the Livingstone PortMaster (sp?) is another cheap terminal
server with most of these features. It lists less than the Cisco

--pushpendra
From: uwe@abbins.Ladenburg.ABB.de (Uwe Hilkert)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: Dialin to SPARC2 ?
Date: 21 Aug 92 06:20:07 GMT
Organization: ABB Installationen GmbH, D-W-6802 Ladenburg, Wallstadter Str. 59

jnm@tdum.CTD.ORNL.GOV (Jamey Maze) writes:
: I'm trying to get in a position to test some PPP software, but haven't
: made it to first base yet. I've got a UDS V.32 modem attached to ttya on
: a SPARC2. The modem was initialized with the command 
: 
: 	AT &F Q2 &C1 &D3 &S1 \N \Q3 \V1 &W
: 
: [ stuff deleted]

Do You have made Changes to your EEProm Setup ?
The SUNs normaly ignores CD Line from Modem so the getty doesen't get the Connection!

This is a cutout of my EEprom printout.(I'm using a 630MP and Dialin UUCP)

.....
.....
keyboard-click?=false
keymap=
ttyb-rts-dtr-off=false
ttyb-ignore-cd=false
ttya-rts-dtr-off=false
ttya-ignore-cd=true
ttyb-mode=19200,8,n,1,h
ttya-mode=19200,8,n,1,s
fcode-debug?=false
.....
.....
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 # #  #  # #  # | Wallstadter Strasse 59,  D-W-6802 Ladenburg
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
From: wiryaman@riscee.pko.dec.com (Santa Wiryaman)
Subject: Re: Free NFS Response Time Measurement Software
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:36:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug10.045921.13353@aim.com> nfsrtm@aimt.aim.com (NFS RTM Distribution) writes:
>
>                    *************************************
>                    FREE NFS SERVER RESPONSE TIME UTILITY
>                    *************************************
>
>(Note:  I'm not sure if this is the proper place to post this, my
>        apologies in advance if it isn't)
>
>Do you want to measure the NFS response time of your servers?  Have you
>heard complaints about server performance but have lacked tools to quantify
>the problem?
>
>If so, you'll want to get a copy of the FREE NFS Response Time Monitor
>(NFSRTM) from AIM Technology.  This easy-to-install-and-use command line
>utility can be run on SPARC workstations running with the Network Interface
>Tap (NIT) and SunOS 4.1 or higher (NOTE: the NFS servers being measured
>DO NOT have to be running SunOS).

I have been using tcpdump and awk scripts to reduce the log file.  Tcpdump
also uses NIT on Suns or packet filter on BSD UNIX and ULTRIX, I used the
packet filter interface.  What I found was insufficient using this tool was
the 4 ms. clock resolution.  On a midrange NFS server an operation such as
getattr could easily be serviced at <1 ms.  So for accuracy, a microsecond clock
resolution was needed.  What is the clock resolution of the SPARC workstations?

Also, how does NFSRTM deals with timeout and retransmissions?

As NFS client implementation is getting smarter, I wonder whether on the wire
measurements are still accurate from the client perspective.  The server's 
ops/sec and secs/ops are still important consideration, but as a user of the
client I would also be concerned about the performance of the client
implementation.  So I would put more weight on performance numbers taken from
a workload on the client.  FWIW, LADDIS only measure the server performance,
bypassing the NFS client implementation altogether.


-- 
Santa Wiryaman

INTERNET : wiryaman@riscee.pko.dec.com
UUCP     : ...!decwrl!riscee.pko.dec.com!wiryaman
From: andyw@aspen32.cray.com (Andy Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: Stand alone NFS client code..
Keywords: Standalone, client.
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:48:57 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Originator: andyw@aspen32


I want to provide NFS support for a project I'm working on at home.

I will have a V40 processor card with 1M of memory & an ethernet
interface. It will have a ram-disk implemented on it, and I would
like to have the ability to NFS mount filesystems from existing
NFS servers.

So I'm looking for pointers to non-commercial, small, NFS client
source code. I've already got 386BSD, and I'm looking at that,
but if anyone has already invented a freely distributable version of
this particular wheel, I'd love to hear from you. There will be
a socket level programming interface provided.

If I am willing to ignore user-id/printer issues (ie, only export
read-only/disposable filesystems from the server) am I right in
thinking that I can ignore things like pscnfsd ?

I have the Usenix paper & the RFCs, so even XDR/RPC/portmapper
source code would be very useful.

Thanks in advance,
-- 
andyw.	N0REN/G1XRL

andyw@aspen.cray.com	Andy Warner, Cray Research, Inc.	(612) 683-5835
From: tso@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Dan Ts'o)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: PC-NFS 4 vs 4.0a
Date: 19 Aug 1992 17:02:41 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston,Tx


	I recently upgraded my PC-NFS to version 4 (I think). I see everyone
talking about version 4.0a. How can I tell if I have 4.0a instead of 4.0
and what are the differences ? Should I get Sun to upgrade me further ? It was
just 2-4 months ago that I got this new version ...
	Please email. Thanks.

				Cheers,
				Dan Ts'o		212-327-7671
				Dept. Neurobiology	dan@rna.rockefeller.edu
				Rockefeller Univ.	...s5!rna!dan
				1230 York Ave.		tso@rockvax.bitnet
				NY, NY 10021
From: carlson@dwp.la.ca.us (Carlson Peters x7898)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: Re: PC/NFS and MS Win not printing
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:19:39 GMT
Organization: Los Angeles Dept. of Water & Power

>Similar situation here: PCNFS 4.0a, Windows 3.1, WinWord 2.0a,
>with a Deskjet on LPT1 that prints fine from DOS but fails
>from WinWord (and Write). Even though it works fine from DOS
>with NFS loaded (so it's not purely NFS' problem), this
>same configuration worked just fine until I upgraded from
>PCNFS 3.5 to 4.0a. What's up? Any clues, Geoff?
>




Open print manager.
Select Options menu.
Selenct Network Settings.
Make sure the 'Print Net Jobs Direct' box is NOT selected.

This should take care of it.


-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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carlson@manta.dwp.la.ca.us	111 N. Hope St., Room 1129
213.481.7898			L.A. CA 90012
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
From: shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk (Leo Smith)
Subject: Re: PCNFS:what are the alternatives--SUMMARY
Reply-To: shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 10:21:00 +0000

In article <888@marvin.jpl.oz> lm@marvin.jpl.oz (Luigi Martin) writes:

    As promised, here are the replys that I got:
    ....
    From: Leo Smith <shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk>
    ....
    Most polished product is PC/TCP from ftp software. Version 2.1 just
    released - so probably buggy, but it does feature unloadable stack,
    and last I heard they were working real hard to get the normal kernel
    (c.70-100k) shoehorned into expanded memory as well as high loaded.
    They do an NFS implementation but it isn't as good IMHO as Beame and
    Whiteside or PC-NFS. Remote print redirect is (for example) shit.
    ....
    
Luigi: When I send a private E-mail expressing fairly frank and
candid opinions about products with which I have had a long
relationship, and since I also know personally many of the people
involved in those products, I do no take kindly at having what was
intended to be a helpful e-mail to you personally, splattered across
the internet.

PC/TCP up to 2.1 (and I haven't sampled that yet) used to suffer from
large size, slow NFS due to small UDP size, and the print redirection
wasn't up to much. Version 2.1 has been a long time coming, and has
addressed these issues.

It is a credit to James van Bokkelen that he has replied in such
measured terms to what he might have interpreted as a product put
down.

I have already apologised to him.


Leo
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
From: uresh@ovrbid.lkg.dec.com (Uresh Vahalia)
Subject: RPC version 3? 
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:56:31 GMT


Does the PC-NFS client use RPC version 3?
If so, is there a spec for this somewhere
in public domain?
What are the differences from RPC v2?

My PC-NFS server seems to run into problems
because the RPC code does not support
any version other than v2.

Uresh Vahalia
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: louis@fammed.wisc.edu (Wayne Louis Hoyenga)
Subject: Customer difficulty with telnet from PC-NFS version 4.0 from Sun
Summary: backspace/delete key mapping is a problem
Keywords: telnet pc-nfs sun
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, UW-Madison
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:42:34 GMT


I have a gripe with Sun's new version of PC-NFS (4.0).  While I find most
of the new features and the windows support to be nice, I have found one
change that has made my life somewhat difficult.

In the version of telnet that comes with 4.0, the backspace key is mapped
to ^? and the del key is mapped to ^h, which is backwards to what it
was in 3.5, 3.0.1, and any other vt100 terminal emulation that I have
EVER been in.  I checked the documentation to see if this behavior was
configurable and could find no way to change it.

I called Sun and talked to a Bhavesh Shah.  He told me that the new telnet
was a completely new program (having been ported from a completely different
source from the ones in the previous versions) and that this
backspace/delete mapping was normal behavior.  When I asked if this were
configurable, he told me that they were not.  I don't know about anyone else
out there, but it seems obvious to me that such options SHOULD be
configurable.  Especially since this product is not only marketed for use
with Sun servers.  Nor does it seem to me that it should be particularly
difficult to make configurable.  Yes, I would even go so far as to say easy.
(I HAVE had a good bit of experience in system level programming and design)

Bhavesh then suggested that I add a line in my .profile to change the stty
settings of the system to conform to this new behavior.  If this were my
only interface to my servers, I would agree that this would be an easy
solution.  However, I am the System Administrator for my company and I am
just as likely to login to my servers from any one of 20-30 different
terminals, PCs, and consoles -- all of which, except for the single PC-NFS
4.0 machine, has backspace producing a ^h and del producing a ^?.  So now
I am forced to remember to set the stty settings on every machine I login
to from this one machine (and every one of the machines that I subsequently
cu, rlogin, and telnet to -- which comes out to an impressive number) or I
get painfully reminded when I attempt correct a typo.  Fortunately, no one
has suggested that I not make any typos.

If I could figure out a way of doing it without pissing Sun off, I would
attempt to binary edit the new telnet executable to see if I could change
this behavior.  Maybe someone from Sun will tell me what binary patches I
could make to (in my opinion) correct the backspace/delete mapping.

Oh, Bhavesh also suggested that I could use the telnet from the old 3.5
version of PC-NFS if I so desired.  If that was an option, I would ask Sun
to take back thier update and give me back my money -- the new telnet was
the MAIN reason that I upgraded.
From: bob@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Bob Nutter)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: Help needed printing from PC-NFS 3.5 to pcnfsd v2
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:10:48 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

Hi,

I'm sure this is a bit of a RTFM question, but I have and it still doesn't work.

We have a user with PC-NFS 3.5 wanting to use a 630MP with pcnfsd v2 installed,
dated 91/12/18. All is well with mounting his home directory (and for that matter
/usr/spool/pcnfs as well). Access in /etc/exports is setup as a netgroup 'pcnfs'
with his pc in it (fully-qualified name, we're using DNS). Whenever he tries to
use a printer with 'net use lpt1: \\<server>\<printer>' he gets the error:

NFS038F: Access to file system denied by server

Anybody any suggestions?

bob
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From: ko053@cucs18.cs.cuhk.hk (Patrick Ko)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: PCNFS client and its compatibles
Keywords: PCNFS
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:21:09 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong

Hello,

Is there any PD PCNFS-client compatible software existing?
If so, where I can obtain it?

Thanks in advance for any pointers.


--
Patrick Ko Shu-pui                           email: ko053@cucs19.cs.cuhk.hk
Graduate School Student, Dept Comp Science   fax:   [852] 656-1350
The Chinese University of Hong Kong          bbs:   [852] 654-8751
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From: tar@math.ksu.edu (Tim Ramsey)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Customer difficulty with telnet from PC-NFS version 4.0 from Sun
Date: 15 Aug 1992 01:04:13 -0500
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: hilbert.math.ksu.edu
Keywords: telnet pc-nfs sun

louis@fammed.wisc.edu (Wayne Louis Hoyenga) writes:

>Oh, Bhavesh also suggested that I could use the telnet from the old 3.5
>version of PC-NFS if I so desired.  If that was an option, I would ask Sun
>to take back thier update and give me back my money -- the new telnet was
>the MAIN reason that I upgraded.

It would be really really nice if Sun would throw away their telnet.exe
and use NCSA telnet (or CUTCP tn3270) instead.  Just the multiple telnet
sessions make NCSA telnet much more useful to me.  Not to mention that
you can configure what the backspace key sends on a host by host basis
if you want.

I keep hearing rumors that someone is working on porting a recent version
of CUTCP to run under the PC-NFS protocol stack.  Is this true?  The
version I have (CUTCP/2.2TN/NFS-A) is showing its age.

-- 
    Tim Ramsey, 913.532.6750
    Department of Mathematics
    Kansas State University
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
From: pam@microware.com (Pam Weber)
Subject: PC-NFS with OS-9 NFS
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:01:32 GMT



Hello Netters!

Has anyone successfully used PC-NFS (any version) with OS-9 running
pcnfsd?

Especially, has a special port of pcnfsd been created for an OS-9
server?

Thanks in advance!

Pamela Weber------------------------------------------------------
pamw@microware.com			Miksch's Law:
uunet!mcrware!pamw			If a string has one end, then there
							is another end.
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From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: Re: NFS file locking
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:30:44 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Aug17.134148.10125@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, curt@ekhadafi.austin.ibm.com (Curt Finch 903 2F021 curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com 512-838-2806) writes:
> ...
> Lockds will be lockds....

No, an accurate phrase is something like "lockds will not".


Vernon Schryver,  vjs@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
From: geoff@tyger.Eng.Sun.COM (Geoff Arnold @ Sun BOS - R.H. coast near the top)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: DOS 'COPY' in PCNFS-3.5a ??!
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:02:30 GMT
Organization: SunSelect
NNTP-Posting-Host: tyger.east.sun.com

#PS:	I've tested with PCNFS 4.0, and a file of approx. 1,5Mb was
#	COPYED rather easily ...
#BUT:	If we upgrade (it's expensive!), the problem is GONE -
#	it is not SOLVED !!!

I'm not sure I follow this. There was a bug, which was sensitive to DOS
version and other configuration effects. (That's why it took a while to
surface.) It was found and resolved shortly before PC-NFS 4.0 was due
to go into beta, and we determined that it was not appropriate to push
out another patch for what seemed to be a fairly obscure bug; instead
we'd fold the fix into 4.0. This is standard practice; at some point we
have to stop revving the old version of the product.

PC-NFS customers who are on support contracts received 4.0 upgrades
as part of their support. Others have to buy the upgrade.

If anyone feels that our support policy is unreasonable, or is out of
step with the industry, please email me. (Please include the keyword
SUPPORT in the subject.) In particular, if you are running an old
version of PC-NFS and have chosen not to upgrade because of pricing or
other reasons, I'd be interested to hear why.

Geoff
PS Since our local netnews software has been under reconstruction
for a while :-), please reply to the address in my .signature.

--
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
From: mjr@hussar.dco.dec.com (Marcus J. Ranum)
Subject: Re: NFS corruption discovery
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Washington ULTRIX Resource Center
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 02:02:12 GMT

vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver) writes:

>People who prudently turn on UDP checksums will not (I hope) see data
>corruption, but if whatever is corrupting data is present, they
>will see NFS retransmissions.

	To amplify on this:

	People who turn on UDP checksumming (if they are so unfortunate
as to have bought a deliberately broken operating system) and notice
lots of bad checksums, should note that they have some kind of network
problem, and should assume that they are suffering some kind of impact,
performance-wise.

mjr.
From: tso@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Dan Ts'o)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: PC-NFS and CDROM ?
Date: 19 Aug 1992 17:05:12 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston,Tx


	Sorry if this is old stuff, but is there anyway I can use PC-NFS to
make a single CDROM drive available to a bunch of PC's (and hopefully UNIX
machines like SUN's and DEC's as well ) ? Can that CDROM drive be a SUN drive ?
Any other way of doing this ?
	Thanks, Please email.

				Cheers,
				Dan Ts'o		212-327-7671
				Dept. Neurobiology	dan@rna.rockefeller.edu
				Rockefeller Univ.	...s5!rna!dan
				1230 York Ave.		tso@rockvax.bitnet
				NY, NY 10021

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From: geoff@tyger.Eng.Sun.COM (Geoff Arnold @ Sun BOS - R.H. coast near the top)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Customer difficulty with telnet from PC-NFS version 4.0 from Sun
Date: 15 Aug 1992 13:24:56 GMT
Organization: SunSelect
NNTP-Posting-Host: tyger.east.sun.com
Keywords: telnet pc-nfs sun

Quoth louis@fammed.wisc.edu (Wayne Louis Hoyenga) (in <louis.713828554@dfmp1>):
#In the version of telnet that comes with 4.0, the backspace key is mapped
#to ^? and the del key is mapped to ^h, which is backwards to what it
#was in 3.5, 3.0.1, and any other vt100 terminal emulation that I have
#EVER been in.  I checked the documentation to see if this behavior was
#configurable and could find no way to change it.

I'm puzzled by your last sentence. In the Commands Reference for PC-NFS
V4, on page 124, we document the "-y" option to Telnet as follows:

	By default, PC-NFS telnet switches the function of the
	Backspace and Delete keys. The -y option disables this
	transposition.

#I called Sun and talked to a Bhavesh Shah.  He told me that the new telnet
#was a completely new program (having been ported from a completely different
#source from the ones in the previous versions)

Perfectly true.

#                                                      and that this
#backspace/delete mapping was normal behavior.

We added it in response to requests from a number of beta testers.
And we included the "-y" option for people who wanted "normal" (i.e.
non-intuitive) behaviour.

#                                                    When I asked if this were
#configurable, he told me that they were not.

I'll close the loop with Bhavesh.

Geoff
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  (geoff.arnold@East.Sun.COM)  | philosophers had found a cure for atheism.
         SunSelect,            | Young people coming up as atheists soon found
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs