Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:36:54 CST
From: <U19807@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: GUNDAM: CHAR'S COUNTERATTACK: So, what's the big deal?
 <93019.155155U19807@uicvm.uic.edu> <43788@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>

In article <43788@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim) says:
>It's not us who'll decide which will be the part of Gundam Universe
>and which will NOT. It's entirely up to Sunrise and Bandai who created
>that Universe.

That's  why I have some serious misgivings about the series being continued
to the point of sheer exhaustion of concepts and/or plots.

>That's why we have to put up with junks like F-90 and
>Silhouette Formula. :(

F-90 I've heard of (mostly as a target of derision/dislike),but just what is
Silhouette Formula ? (Judging by your opinion,not much of anything,but I _am_
curious.  >:) )

>But most Gundam novels (except the original Gundam novels) serve as
>nice supplements to the anime and most Gundam fans accept them as
>valuable aid to understanding Gundam Universe. Rather than making
>things complicated, the novels (and drama CDs) clear up many
>things. There are too many limitations with anime (TV anime in
>particular) and the creators can't usually put all the things they
>want in it. That's why they write novels.

I don't have any major arguments with the previous paragraph,but I'd like to
point out that it's _still_ a royal pain in the ass when you have to read the
novels (especially if you can't obtain 'em easily,which is probably the case
with most of us here in the US) in order to get the gist of what's going on
in the overall continuity of a series. If anything,it can serve to confuse
even a diehard Gundam follower as to what's _really_ going on if he/she
can't get his or her hands on the additional material that gets tossed into
the continuity mix.

>>Oops. Problem Number One with  "listening to the dialogue carefully",of
>>course,as I'm not that fluent with the language.
>>
>>I have just a _slight_ problem with the logic that her efforts at
>"persuasion"
>>included doing him in in an armless,legless Mech (which luckily still had
>>its vulcan cannons,of course) in episode #50,but if that's your point,stick
>>with it. >:)
>
>Hamaan was just trying to drive Char into the condition where she can
>force an unconditional surrender out of him. It's very obvious in
>her last line in episode 50 (after Hyakushiki blew up).
>
>"Char...only if he came with me..."

Two points about this:

(1) The Hyakushiki _didn't_ blow up. It got its arms,legs and its
propulsion units severed or destroyed during Char's fights with both Haman
and Paptimas Scirocco in #50. The head and torso are seen intact when what
remains of the Hyakushiki floats by near the end of the credits.

(2) Haman may've been trying to break Char's will,but I have my doubts as
whether swooping down to skewer an almost totally defenseless mobile suit's
torso with a laser sword constitutes a attempt at obtaining an "unconditional
surrender" or the demise of the pilot.

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