HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lpb@florida.swdc.stratus.com (Len Bucuvalas)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: HYPOCRISY of Prayer in Public Schools
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:58:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.190630.2127@cnsvax.uwec.edu> mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>
>
>                       HYPOCRISY of Public School Prayer
>
>               Bush, Reagan, and a LOT of SELF-RIGHTEOUS fundamentalist 
>          "Christians" want to RE-IMPOSE prayer into the public 
>          schools, as well as in certain government ceremonies, etc.. 
>
>               But what did Jesus Christ HIMSELF say about people who 
>          pray in public?  In Matthew 6:5 he called them HYPOCRITES!  

I don't know about the public thing but, the word "hypocrite"
... in ancient Greek...means "play actor".
>          
>               He said in the next verse that people should pray 
>          SILENTLY IN THEIR CLOSETS, in other words, IN PRIVATE.  (Or 
>          if in public, they should do it IN THEIR HEADS, withOUT the 
>          SHOWY bowed head and folded hands.) 

I agree....the show is strictly for pay.
>
>               Parents who want their kids to openly and verbally pray 
>          in school can send them to PAROCHIAL schools, as well as to 
>          Sunday school, withOUT forcing it on others. 
>
>
>
>               UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this 
>          IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED. 
>
>
>                                   Robert E. McElwaine

Now that we're onto it, I understand that the word "gentiles"
meant "nations" in ancient GReek. The word "angel" meant
"messanger" and the word "heaven" meant "sky". Interezsting!
So are angels messanegrs from an extraterrestrial
civilization?

Read the 12th Planet by Zacharia Sitchin. Facinating work
translating the Sumerian and Akkadian tablets. Leads one to
believe the God we have been taught about was an ET
geneticist.

Len
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The accountability of government has gone to the point where the very
use of the law is the instrument of illegality.
		-- Ralph Nader @ Harvard Law School, 1/15/92
From: Richard.J.Polits@tek.com (Richard J. Polits)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: Safety during change
Date: 10 Nov 92 10:28:11 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Computer Graphics Group

In article <1992Nov9.234526.2394@merrimack.edu> nin15b63@merrimack.edu (THE WOLF) writes:
>From: nin15b63@merrimack.edu (THE WOLF)
>Subject: Safety during change
>Date: 9 Nov 92 23:45:26 GMT
>I have heard a bit about the earth changes coming to/ happening on our planet. 
>Virtually al of what I have heard pertains to the USA.  Anyone know what is
>supposed to occur world-wide?
>
>Also, there have been many predictions about potentially dnagerous areas, but
>not many about safe ones.  Anyone got some info?

I found an interesting source of earth changes, The Earth Changes Report.
It is a monthly newsletter in which a Futurist, Gordon-Michael Scallion, 
shares his visions of future events.  His prophecies cover a wide range of 
subjects such as the economy, earthquakes, volcanoes, phenomena, weather, 
and other happenings around the world.  His published predictions (in 
advance) about the location and magnitude of earthquakes, and his recent 
prediction of Hurricane Andrew, really blew me away.  He has put out a 
Future Map of the United States, time frame 1998-2001 with changes starting 
in 1993.  The map has most of the western third of the US under water with a 
few islands in California.  A wide band of water from Louisiana up to the 
Great Lakes.  From southern Texas around through North Carolina, the 
shorline retreats 20 - 100 miles.  He has a set of tapes on Global Earth 
Changes: 1991 - 1997.  I don't know about your location, but Washington D.C. 
shows on the map still, but gets "wet" several times from big waves...

My first reaction was, he was looney.  But, I saw him hit some major events 
right on the nose.  If you are interested in prophecy, end times, and other 
borderline sciences, check out: Matrix Institute, RR1 Box 391, Westmoreland, 
NH 03467, 800-628-7493.  They give permission to copy their material as long 
as no money changes hands.  I don't know about USENET copies though.
--
Richard J. Polits  Tektronix, Computer Graphics Group, Wilsonville, OR, USA
Internet: Richard.J.Polits@tek.com  Voice: 503-685-2041   Fax: 503-682-3595
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From: pyuaq@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr G S Sutherland)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: Space Craft From Other Plants
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:05:45 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <69165@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
+Subject: Space Crafts From Other Planets.

[Stuff deleted]

+They are capable of interstellar travel on a limited basis and can reach 
+some of the closer star systems to your solar system. We refer to these 
+craft as our primary transportation.  They are equipped to travel at speeds 
+in excess of light. However, when these craft are operated within several 
+parsecs of any planetary body, their speed is reduced for obious reasons. 
 ^^^^^^^
I thought that a parsec was several light years. If so, then most places in
this region of the galaxy are within "several parsecs" of another planet,
ergo faster than light travel will be impossible for them.

+John Winston

Graeme Sutherland.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Date: Sat,  7 Nov 92 06:18:38 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <68958@cup.portal.com> <68999@cup.portal.com>

Dear People of Noble Character: It saturday morning and I need to go 
to work, but maybe soon I'll time to tell you about the lady called
Viv.
John Winston
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 07:17:06 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Subject: Where We Came From. 
  In the past someone has asked what does the story of The Red Head have to do 
with UFOs and other things. It is my purpose to show everyone that when they 
look up and see a UFO they may be seeing some of their long lost brothers 
and sisters who they knew in previous lives on other planets. At the present 
time there are a lot of people living in the world who have volunteered to 
come to Earth and help out the new graduating class.  When people come here 
they give up their memory so they can learn lessons.  It has been put in our 
DNA to remember now why we came here.  A lot of people are now trying to 
find out who they are.
  Last night I did a lot of dreaming about the late president L. B. Johnson of 
the USA. I used to read a lot of information that came from a UFO study 
group in Portland Oregon called the Universarium Organization. It's leader 
was Zelrum Karsleigh. He would talk to the space and spiritual people and 
ask them questions.  One of the favorite things they would talk about was 
who certain people were in previous lives.  They mentioned that L. B. 
Johnson was in a previous life, Sam Houston the person they called the 
Father of Texas.  They also mentioned that in this life his brother is 
called Sam Houston Johnson. I don't know whether the last statement is true 
or not.
 The Cherokee Nation of the American Indians have a lot of stories about where 
they came from in previous lives. If you will go to the Devil's Tower in the 
USA you will find that they have a myth about how a bear climbed the side of 
the Devil's Tower chasing 7 maidens causing the scratch marks on the sides 
of Devil's Tower. The 7 sisters or maidens escaped by becoming the 7 stars 
of the Plieades.  The Cherokee people believe that they came from the 
Plieades.  
  Some of the small black people from Africa have told explorers that they did 
not always live in the forest and jungle.  They say they lived in places 
where they had tall buildings and modern things but they now choose to live 
where they are and keep things simple. They claim to be from the Dog Star 
and will tell you about the rotation of the stars in that system that take 
about 50 years. There was a book written about it called something like The 
Sirius Mystery.
  I have found out what I have been it more than 14 lifetimes. One was as an 
American Indian and one was on the planet Venus.
John Winston
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: What's your SIQ?
From: emiddlec@mora.gac.edu (Eric Middlecamp)
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:41:20 -0600

In article <Nw81TB1w165w@kalki33>  writes:
>emiddlec@mora.gac.edu (Eric Middlecamp) writes:
>
>>> Spiritual Intelligence Test.
>
>>> (Please answer each question in 25 words or less)
>
>>> 1) What is the soul?
>
>> I am.
>
>Question 1 grade: 100% (Short, sweet and perfectly right)
>
>>> 2) What is the purpose of human life?
>
>> Ha. Sort of an oxymoron. 
>> The purpose of my soul is love. Love is spiritual evolution, heaven, nirvana.
>
>Question 2 grade: 50% (all right, but love who?, evolve into what?)

I'm sorry.. I thought I added more. I am referring to love as defined by M. Scott Peck in _The Road  
Less Traveled_. Love is the desire for the spiritual growth _of another_ person. The way to reach  
heaven, etc.. is through this sort of love. We all go upward together. Nirvana is helping each  
other.

>The purpose of human life is to reestablish our eternal but forgotten
>relationship with God as His loving devotees and return home, back to
>Godhead. This is real spiritual evolution.
>
>Overall grade: 75%
>Thank you very much!
From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Email Correspondence Requested
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:36:24 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I would like to correspond with someone, via email, who has extensive
experience and/or knowledge on channeling and/or premonitions.  Please
send replies to:

shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu


Thanks,


-- 
Susan R. Hagan (shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu) 
Publications Coordinator - User Services
Rutgers University Computing Services
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
From: zenith89@bcarh1eb.bnr.ca (Chris VanFleet)
Subject: Re: Pee Wee's Pyramid
Reply-To: zenith89@bcarh1eb.bnr.ca ()
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ltd., Ottawa, CANADA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 17:24:39 GMT

In article <69355@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Dear Pyramid Builders: Remember these people who are going on the trip
>are conventional scientists and don't think like I do. 
>John Winston

To put it another way, the scientists aren't on drugs.
From: kambic@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Bonus, Iniquus, Celer - Delegitus Duo)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: Safety during change
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:08:54 GMT

In article <Richard.J.Polits.26.721391291@tek.com>, Richard.J.Polits@tek.com (Richard J. Polits) writes:
[...]
> His prophecies cover a wide range of 
> subjects such as the economy, earthquakes, volcanoes, phenomena, weather, 
> and other happenings around the world.  His published predictions (in 
> advance) about the location and magnitude of earthquakes, and his recent 
> prediction of Hurricane Andrew, really blew me away.  
[...]
> But, I saw him hit some major events right on the nose.  

I would be interested in the references to these predictions.

GXKambic
sd
From: tucker@mitre.org (William Tucker)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: Spirit adding darkness
Keywords: Re: Spirit adding darkness
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:14:18 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA, USA

you (Kalki Dasa) say:

[stuff deleted]

And you think WE have missed the point?

[stuff deleted]


I (William Tucker) respond:

Quite, wondering when you'ld notice it. And who is this 
WE you keep referring to? Most have the courage to say I.

You're in my kill file, don't know how this got through.

May the bluebird of happiness sit upon your shoulder and 
tell you that it is in fact a beautiful day. Are you
the tarbaby? Ciao dude.

Wm T.

.standard disclaimer
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
From: case@infonode.ingr.com (Bill Case)
Subject: Re: UFOs and Newage
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:14:52 GMT

In article <69280@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Subject: Great Pyramid of Egypt Trip. 
> They believe that the builders of the pyramid were experts in concrete and 
>cement, and they cast some of the blocks in place. 

That would explain the handprints followed by "3000 B.C." (Yeah,  I 
know the riddle))

> They hope to leave on May of 1983.

Flying TransWormhole?
				

Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology
From: mpiet@is.morgan.com (Mark Pietrasanta)
Subject: Re: Bigfootf spaceman? - support
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:04:49 GMT

[odd stuff deleted]

|>   Miss Martin say she has returned to Mt. Rainier National Park every year 
|> since Kelly was born but hasn't seen hid nor hair of the boy's father. 

[deleted to end]

You know, I think the law in Washington stipulates that you can get
both child support and money for mental anguish.  You just need to 
provide the last known address, and they'll do the rest.

Mark Pietrasanta
----------

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from
mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein

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Disclaimer: These responses are my own and in no way reflect the
views of my employer.
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From: mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: MARK-OF-THE-BEA$T bar-code$/scanner$
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:01:28 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire



                           THE "MARK OF THE BEA$T"

               ALL Christians are PROHIBITED by Revelation 14:9-11 from 
          cooperating with the "MARK-OF-THE-BEA$T" bar-code, OCR-
          number, and magnetic-strip scanning systems, (as found in 
          local libraries, supermarkets, retail establishments, etc.), 
          which also THREATEN to SUBVERT Individual Privacy and 
          Freedom. 

               The scanners can serve THE SAME CRIMINAL PURPOSE as the 
          TV cameras in the book "1984"! 

               The UPC bar-codes are probably the most blatant form of 
          the "MARK OF THE BEA$T" so far, with the "NUMBER OF THE 
          BEA$T", 666, ALREADY CODED INTO THEM.  Each of the so-called 
          "guard patterns", pairs of thin lines spaced close together 
          at the beginning, middle, and end of each full-length UPC 
          bar-code, is IDENTICAL to one of the two codes for a 6. 

               WARN YOUR FRIENDS!


               UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this 
          IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED. 


                                   Robert E. McElwaine


Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: johnsone@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Erik A. Johnson)
Subject: Re: MARK-OF-THE-BEA$T bar-code$/scanner$
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 09:47:12 GMT

pierccm@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.210128.2286@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>>                            THE "MARK OF THE BEA$T"
>> [...]
>>                UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this 
>>           IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED. 
>> 
>> 
>>                                    Robert E. McElwaine
>
>This is really interesting to have found this post.  Two summers ago I
>found a flyer on the windshield of my car ...
>I don't know if Robert is affiliated with the same religious
>organization, I do not even remember the name of that group (I had
>never heard of it before).

No, McElwaine has been posting nonsense of this sort to just about every
news group I read (everything from the soc.religion.* and talk.religion.*
groups to sci.astro, and to a number of mailing lists) ... his posts on
one newsgroup contradict those he posts on other newsgroups, mostly, I
think, just to tick people off.

I complained to him that his posts on some of the mailing lists were
entirely inappropriate and irrelevant to the subjects of those groups.
In response, I've got harrassing mail from him.  His system administrator
is looking for excuses to revoke McElwaine's internet access due to these
and other problems, but apparently the McElwaine has threatened first
ammendment lawsuits.

A person like this, serving no useful purpose on the internet, should
have his priveleges revoked.


Erik A. Johnson, Graduate Student        \ Internet:  johnsone@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu
Aeronautical & Astronautical Engineering  \
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign \ AmericaOnline: ErikAJ
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: phoenix@cwis.unomaha.edu (Shannon Chris Saltzman)
Subject: Apology
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 10:39:41 GMT

This has not been an ideal day.
I have read and apologized for one article then I wrote another 
that was equally offensive.
Please forward all hate mail to alt.trash.
I will just say i am sorry for these articles.
I didnt reread it just now but the beginning sounded rather condescending.
Just the same I will offer but one argument for my side.
Why discuss that God isnt here if not to provoke argument from Christian
key jockeys such as myself? If it is new age why discuss the abscence
of a christian God except to upset christians?
I will wait for a response to these articles.
later

-- 
From the coffee table of MR SHANNON SALTZMAN
"Is doggie heavan kitty hell?"
     Stephanie Phoenix(age 6)
This in everyway represents the authors opinion!!!(take it if ya want)
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: UFOs and Newage
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 20:25:42 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Subject: Great Pyramid of Egypt Trip. 
  I just got through making a telephone call to Donald Long the person who is 
planning to go over to Egypt to investighate the Great Pyramid of Egypt. 
They have six people going. One of them is Dr. Joseph Daviovits of France, 
who is an expert in geo-polymeres.  They hope to prove that some but not all 
of the limesone blocks in the pyramid were made by crushing limesone into 
small pieces and mixing it with other materials to make the blocks. 
 They believe that the builders of the pyramid were experts in concrete and 
cement, and they cast some of the blocks in place.  They hope to leave on 
May of 1983.
John Winston.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: emery@tc.fluke.COM (John Emery)
Subject: Re: Really?
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:54:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.213521.10601@penet.fi> an101@anon.penet.fi writes:
>You know, I wish all of you deranged christians would get a life and go
>annoy someone else.
>
>At least, take this drivel and place it elsewhere.  
>
>Nero was right -- we should feed the christians to the lions.  (Of course,
>that would be cruel to the innocent lions!)
>
>Why not start your own news group, like talk.religion.nonsense?
>--

We forgive you.  May God grant mercy to you and lead you to the cross
of our Lord Jesus.

God bless,



-- 
John Emery		"You say we've risen to a new age of light.
emery@tc.fluke.COM       You're telling me what used to be wrong
			 is now right."
From: smd@sl0091.srl.ford.com (Steve Dahmen)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: Earth Changes
Date: 5 Nov 1992 16:46:22 GMT
Organization: Scientific Research Lab, Ford Motor Company
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sl0091.srl.ford.com
Originator: smd@sl0091.srl.ford.com


In article <1992Nov4.171930.2371@merrimack.edu>, nin15b63@merrimack.edu (THE WOLF) writes:
:Would this be the right newsgroup to discuss the coming earth changes, the
:shifting of the axis, the tribulation, the shift in consciousness or whatever
:you want to call them?
:-- 
:-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
: Andy Harrington                      | nin15b63@merrimack.edu

THIS IS IT, WOLF!

Let's Discuss!

-- 
Steve Dahmen ** Graphics Application Programmer
Ford Motor Company
smd@sl0091.srl.ford.com
313-594-3229 (work)
From: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: ISKON overzealousness.
Keywords: ISKON overzealousness.
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 04:54:44 EST
Reply-To: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
Organization: Kalki's Infoline BBS, Aiken, SC, USA

tucker@mitre.org (William Tucker) writes:

> I (William Tucker) wonder:
> 
> If you pay attention to what's going on around you. If your purpose is to aid
> ISKON you're failing miserably. If you're trying to get even with them for
> some reason, congratulations. If I remember correctly ISKON was prohibited fr
> going to airports and proselityzing for displaying the very behavior that you
> seem so proud of. In fact I've found many "regular" people shy away from 
> discussion of "eastern" ideas because of the bad publicity that overzealous
> followers of ISKON have created. Would your superiors be pleased with your
> behavior and the response? Do you care, or do you only have a personal agenda
> to get attention while claiming that it's to further ISKON's cause? Are you
> capable of reflection? Just curious.
> 

"Just CURIOUS"??

Sincerely,
Kalki Dasa


       -------------------------------------------------------
      |  Don't forget to chant:   Hare Krishna Hare Krishna   |
      |                           Krishna Krishna Hare Hare   |
      |                           Hare Rama Hare Rama         |
      |                           Rama Rama Hare Hare         |
      |                                                       |
      |   Kalki's Infoline BBS Aiken, South Carolina, USA     |
      |        (kalki33!kalki@lakes.trenton.sc.us)            |
       -------------------------------------------------------
From: kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry)
Subject: Re: Bigfootf spaceman?
Organization: Two rooms filled with typography, in downtown Boston
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:43:36 GMT

In article <69097@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>1>+
>Subject: Sexual Behavior of 
>Bigfoot. Part 2.
[...]
>John Winston.
>n of the way he loks but kKelly (Littlefoot), doesn't let it bother him a bit.
>  I could save wZ
>
>22@8yDx,yy`Eh
>9z},.x
>x)xx
>9z},<
>0Roman 10cpi notheing to do with me  since I gave bitth to this precious 
>little boy, I love him so much I call him Little

Hey, John, try reading your word-processor's manual, especially the part
where it talk about how to save an ASCII file, okay?  Either that or
learn how to edit your posts.

After all, if you know someone who sleeps with "Bigfootf", you should be
capable of editing text...

And if you took out ALL the garbage, think how much space you could save!

						-- K.
						I'm too cool to
						spell-check, myself.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Date: Sat,  7 Nov 92 17:20:17 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <68958@cup.portal.com> <68999@cup.portal.com> <69034@cup.portal.com>

Dear Everybody: I should have said it's saturday. I hope this week
has treated you all well.
John Winston.
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