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From: cjones@pbs.org
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: rec.music.christian
Date: 23 Dec 92 13:54:47 EST
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

In article <urcat.724789501@mcl>, urcat@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eilidh Swan) writes:
>>In article <1gii6sINN5l7@coral.bucknell.edu>, whelan@coral.bucknell.edu (The Blue Adept) writes:
>  
>> 	I just wanted to bring up a topic that was of interest to me and
>> see what everyone else thought.  I am (as I write) listening to Andrew
>> Lloyd Weber's Jesus Christ Superstar... 
> 
>>[stuff deleted]
> 
>>...My question is this:  Is it wrong to listen to this musical, even if
>> it can touch people?  Is the musical wrong?  
> 
> As I've heard it, the musical is not an *accurate* portrayal of the Life
> of Jesus, but *is* worth listening to (note: I'm biased toward loving 
> Andrew Lloyd Weber anyway.... :)
> 
> As another writer pointed out, the emotions portrayed in JCS are *incredible.*
> _Godspell_, based on the accounts in Matthew, is perhaps far more accurate
> than JCS, (i.e. Jesus rises from the dead in Godspell, not in JCS; there's
> no glorification of Judus in Godspell where there is in JCS.)  But it doesn't
> make my heart catch in my throat like JCS, like the flogging scene.  Ack, 
> whenever I listen to the soundtrack and hear all 39 lashes, I want to cry.
> 
> It's a great piece -- musically; good for emotional understanding of the
> *Passion* of Christ (akin to Bach's Passions written for Good Friday services);
> and good for examining what the Bible *really* says, as opposed to the
> story line of JCS.  Thought-provoking, easily.
> 
> Btw, I recommend Godspell to people too.
> 
> 
> Eilidh Swan
> ************************************************************************
> Cat McGlothlin    urcat@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu   'urcat'='you-are-cat'   "Oh!"
>                   eilidh@cs.ucsb.edu       -- Eilidh is Celtic for Ellen
>  The University never has, and never will, pay for or fund my opinions.
From: co940@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Nicholas E. Damato)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Over The Rhine
Date: 26 Dec 1992 05:32:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Over the Rhines Address is: 
1229 main st.
Cincinatti,Ohio 45210
 
I am a promotional assitant for Over The Rhine
I am using my friend's internet account
If you have any more questions contact me
Marc Strine
Phone: (216)262-0922
 
Address:
 
310 1/2 Vine St.
Wooster, Ohio 44691
 
P.S. The above adress is their personal home address and should
     be used for FAN MAIL ONLY PLEASE...
 
Info on records and catalogues should be directed to
OTR
P.O. Box  2572
Cincinnati, Ohio 45201
 
Thanx for the support!
From: tsh2@quads.uchicago.edu (tad hwang)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: CONTRADICTIONS ABOUT GOD
Date: 30 Dec 92 21:00:38 GMT
Reply-To: tsh2@midway.uchicago.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Chicago

>
>As for the mocker, these apparent contradictions give him every opportunity
>to grab at cheap shots left and right.  Watch the mocker exhault his own
>intelligence and lift himself above all christians in his own eyes prancing
>around like the king of all intelligence only to be cast down as a supreme
>fool!  The christian sits at the feet of the Lord hungering for and living
>off of every word that comes from His mouth while the mocker sneers, starves
>himself and closes his eyes in supreme arrogance and foolishness as he walks
>straight into the pit of hell while the christian is given the welcome of
>Christ into His Father's house with many mansions!
wow....pretty harsh words.  I am definitely not a mocker, but I do have a 
problem with the last line above.  If this is the attitude of Christians,
then the world is not a better place with them.


-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  Tad S. Hwang
"What happened to that nice decent boy I used |  tsh2@midway.uchicago.edu
   to know...?"                               |  the university of chicago
        -leslie wintheiser                    |
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: isc30366@nusunix1.nus.sg (HO TUCK CHIUN)
Subject: Re: Who's the artist / What's the song?
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 00:07:32 GMT

Russ Neumeier (russn@ssec.wisc.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Dec29.153229.1@stsci.edu> watterson@stsci.edu (Mike Watterson) writes:
: >  I have heard a song a couple of times and would like to find the artist's 
: >name so I can get the album.
: >  The song is performed by a female artist and I'm guessing the title is 
: >"Moutain Top".
: 
: I believe that Amy Grant sings this one, but unfortunately I can't help with
: the title.

   The title of the song is "Mountain Top" and it's found on her
self-titled debut album.

: Russ Neumeier
: russn@ssec.wisc.edu
: SSEC, UW-Madison

Rodney Ho

hotuckch@iscs.nus.sg
isc30366@nusunix1.nus.sg
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: carlson@cwis.unomaha.edu (Brian D. Carlson)
Subject: Re: CONTRADICTIONS ABOUT GOD
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 14:25:23 GMT

ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman) writes:
>In article <carlson.725146095@cwis> carlson@cwis.unomaha.edu (Brian D. Carlson) writes:
>>myers_c@ab.wvnet.edu writes:
>>
>>[lots of drivel deleted]
[lots of well thought out convincing proof following the drivel deleted]

>I don't think anyone could dispute the fact that the QMV and ONEWAY
>versions are God's annointed Word.  All other versions are perversions
>of the truth.  And I'm willing to fight about it and pray for your
>lost soul if you tell me I'm wrong.  Okay?  I hope I haven't offended
>thee.  Or thou, for that matter.  

	Boy, I ought to give you a sock right in the mush, and I would,
but the dryer ate my sock, and I don't touch mush. Do you realize that
God loves us all equally, and that he wouldn't do for one what he has
done for all others! (Hessitations 3:23:b)

	Therefor, since the only version for our hearing impaired
brothers and sisters is the Amplified Version, it logically follows that
that is the most accurate version. Sheesh! And in addition, we all have
heard that Paul (of Tarsus, not McCartney) had poor vision, hence the
large letters he wrote with his hands, and so a Large letter Edition of
the Amplified Version is the most accurate (exact, correct, perfect,
characterized by percision, deft, reliable, trustworthy, true, meticulous,
correct, faithful, I already said correct) version for me and my house.

Brian D. Carlson
" the D stands for knowleDgable "

>>Brian Carlson
>>carlson@unomaha.edu

>Andy Whitman
>AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, Ohio
>att!cblpn!ajw  or
>ajw@cblpn.att.com
From: ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: CONTRADICTIONS ABOUT GOD
Date: 28 Dec 92 14:20:47 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <carlson.725146095@cwis> carlson@cwis.unomaha.edu (Brian D. Carlson) writes:
>myers_c@ab.wvnet.edu writes:
>
>[lots of drivel deleted]
>>>>          [ ALWAYS use the KING JAMES VERSION.  Later versions are PER-
>>>>          VERSIONS! ] 
>>> 
>>> 	So I take it that you have read ALL of the other versions.  The fact
>>> that the American Standard is considered to be the most accurate rendering
>>           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> means nothing to you ?  You obviously speek to people in thous thees and
>>> tho's !.  Thou art !!
>>> 
>>I thought it was the New International Version that was the most accurate.  I
>>may be wrong though.
>
>	Well, the Apostle Paul may have written the King James Version,
>but every time I find key word translations in, say, the Open Bible, it
>always seems to suggest the same word used in the New American Standard
>Version.

You gotta love this group.  Actually, Paul didn't write the KJV.  As
the name implies, the KJV was written by James, the brother of Jesus,
and author of the biblical epistle that bears his name.  He was called
"King" because of all the spot-on Elvis impersonations he performed
at bar mitzvahs, Day of Atonement bashes, and the like.

The most accurate version by far is the Queen Mary Version (QMV), used
throughout Scotland and on most luxury liners.  A close second is 
the Old New England Words About YHWH (ONEWAY) Version favored by 
most Coptics and Manicheans, and later adopted by the Pilgrims, the
Puritans, and Larry Norman.  It's the only version that contains
the long-disputed but now accepted verses, "Thou (or you) shalt not
wrangle over thous and thees; neither shalt thou engage in doctrinal
hair splitting, or doctrinal hair styling, or any other acts of 
cosmetology.  You (or thou) shalt wear thy hair unkempt and shall
love one another instead, and if ye persist in such unloving nonsense 
YHWH shall personally come down and rend thy concordances and smite
thee on the noggin'."  

I don't think anyone could dispute the fact that the QMV and ONEWAY
versions are God's annointed Word.  All other versions are perversions
of the truth.  And I'm willing to fight about it and pray for your
lost soul if you tell me I'm wrong.  Okay?  I hope I haven't offended
thee.  Or thou, for that matter.  

>Brian Carlson
>carlson@unomaha.edu

Andy Whitman
AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, Ohio
att!cblpn!ajw  or
ajw@cblpn.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: jusu@krk.fi (Juha Vehvil{inen)
Subject: Requesting lyrics of DM's "Blasphemous Rumours"
Organization: Radio Club of Kauniainen (OH2NRG)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:49:47 GMT

	Could someone please write me the lyrics of Depeche Mode's song
	"Blasphemous Rumours"? Thank You.
-- 
       ________________________________________________
Reach |                                                |   jusu@krk.fi
 Out  | Everything you know is WRONG. Read more Bible. |   -----------
Touch |                                                | Misspellings are
Faith | -- Peace --- Hope --- Love --- Jesus Christ -- |   Irrelevant.
===== |________________________________________________|   -----------
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: eng10459@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN CHEE LEONG)
Subject: Minus One to the MUSICAL I AM
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 13:21:55 GMT

Hello, everyone, our Church will be putting up a musical during Easter
93.  The production will be taken from 4 works: namely, I AM, JESUS
SHALL REIGN, CORNERSTONE, WHO IS THIS KING?

I wonder if anyone has minus one recording for the musical I AM?

Would appreciate if you could EMAIL.

Chee Leong
From: labson@borneo.corp.sgi.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Long Haired Man
Date: 30 Dec 92 17:29:50 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

I have a very long hair and some of my relatives & friends condemned it,
some don't, and some no comments....I like my hair and I'm not going to
cut it for anything.....Is that a bad attitude????Is it wrong to like
your hair....

Any suggestions ??? comments ??? I played in our church band, and I love
to play & use my talent for the Lord but I'm thinking of quitting
because I might offend some people when they see me in front with my
long hair...(don't want to be a stumbling block to them)......but don't
want to cut my hair either.... 

And I am very defensive if someone comment about my hair....(Don't get
me wrong, I'm idolizing my hair, I just plain like them)

I will cut them if anybody can prove to me it is wrong.....Thanks

-- 
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: watterson@stsci.edu (Mike Watterson)
Subject: Who's the artist / What's the song?
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:32:29 GMT

Hello,

  I have heard a song a couple of times and would like to find the artist's 
name so I can get the album.

  The song is performed by a female artist and I'm guessing the title is 
"Moutain Top".

  Any info is appreciated.

  Thanx 
-- 
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* Space Telescope Science Institute      | (410) 338-5052 (voice) *
* 3700 San Martin Drive                  | (410) 338-5075 (fax)   *
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From: russn@ssec.wisc.edu (Russ Neumeier)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Who's the artist / What's the song?
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:47:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Space Sci. and Eng. Center, University of Wisconsin, Madison

In article <1992Dec29.153229.1@stsci.edu> watterson@stsci.edu (Mike Watterson) writes:
>Hello,
>
>  I have heard a song a couple of times and would like to find the artist's 
>name so I can get the album.
>
>  The song is performed by a female artist and I'm guessing the title is 
>"Moutain Top".
>

I believe that Amy Grant sings this one, but unfortunately I can't help with
the title.


Russ Neumeier
russn@ssec.wisc.edu
SSEC, UW-Madison
From: consult5@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (Jason Schmidt)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Anyone out there...?
Date: 23 Dec 92 00:44:15 GMT
Reply-To: consult5@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

Has anyone out there listened to any of the new christians groups,
you know the ones that just came out this or maybe last year?

I have heard Legend and The Kry, which shall be the subject of my 
next review, but I haven't heard The Brave, or any other artist that 
I haven't even heard of.

I would truly appreciate name,style, and record label please.  I
would also like them sent to me and not posted 'cause I shall be gone 
for a week and a half do to christmas break.

Thank you &
God Bless,

Jason Schmidt
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: Guest@comm.mgmt.purdue.edu (changhun park )
Subject: Re: CCM CD/tape clubs?
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 07:00:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Krannert Graduate School of Management

In article <1992Dec29.162831.10520@ge-dab.GE.COM> brooks@spaz.dab.ge.com (Stephen Brooks) writes:
>From: brooks@spaz.dab.ge.com (Stephen Brooks)
>Subject: CCM CD/tape clubs?
>Date: 29 Dec 92 16:28:31 GMT
>
>  Does Word (or anyone else for that matter) still have a CCM tape/CD club?
>I used to be a member, but they dropped me for some reason (it's been too
>long to remember why).  Any info/phone numbers/addresses/reply postcards/etc.
>would be appreciated.  Thanks.
>
>P.S.  I already know about Long's, but any info on other mail order places
>      would be nice, too.
>--
***** I ALSO WANNA KNOW ABOUT THIS!!! ***** SO, PLEASE POST THE INFO. *****
From: jek@icf.hrb.com (Joe Karolchik)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: re:long haired men; rebuking needed?
Date: 31 Dec 92 15:12:23 EST
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Dec31.112725.13349@bsu-ucs>, 00sanaylor@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
> In respone to the long-haired debate...
> 
> Have you ever been rebuked for it, thoguh? I haven't directly, although
> I mentioned before I did get directly rebuked for my guitar playing.
> No kidding; this pastor comes up to me and proceeds to explain to me
> how I'm NOT going to play guitar in HIS church, which was God's House.
> 
Getting back to a somewhat musical discussion, I was told once (by the pastor
of a church) that a piano was not an instrument of worship.  That's why there
wasn't a piano in the sanctuary of the church.  Mind boggling, isn't it?

...and one thing about hair:
> anyway, I have yet to get rebuked for hair; I did get it to get a this job,
> though (okay, yes, for money...), but I later found out I would have gotten
> the job anyway... and that was 5 years ago....

Would you work for a company/person who didn't hire you merely on the basis
of your hair?  (assuming that you are decent with your personal hygiene)

Peace!
Joe Karolchik
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: carlson@cwis.unomaha.edu (Brian D. Carlson)
Subject: Hocus Pick Manouver
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 21:17:26 GMT

	I really enjoy Hocus Pick Manouver. I think we all do. But for
me, it's something different ... (sorry, I was reliving the Far Sided
with the Gorillas sitting around eating bananas and the one talking
about his love for bananas)

	Anyway, I can't find CDs from them in Omaha, NE. They came here,
and some people bought recordings, and I have a pirated tape. I would
love to get a CD.

	Can anyone mail, or post, the address from which I might
snail-mail order them?

Brian D. Carlson
carlson@unomaha.edu

P.S. A concert schedule might help as well. B-) 

	(if I wear glasses, am I required to put them on my smileys?)
From: dsc9hmr@bumed10.med.navy.mil (H. Mike Rice)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: "All is Well" ... MWS
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:50:39 GMT
Distribution: rec.music.christian
Organization: elf____electronic learning facilitator, inc

Hi folks,

I'm looking for the words to Michael W. Smith's, "All is Well". 

Please mail directly to me if you can help 

Thanks

-- rice
--
|                    H. Mike Rice    |    elf_______________________
| |  dsc9hmr@bumed10.med.navy.mil    |         Empowerment through
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  |_______                           |______________________________
From: mokie@cco.caltech.edu (Michael L. Brundage)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Maybe
Date: 22 Dec 1992 23:05:05 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

...we should just split rec.music.christian into rec.christian.music and
rec.christian.music.flame


-- 
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mokie@cco.caltech.edu  | "This hope we have as an anchor of the soul, a hope
                       |    both sure and steadfast, and one which enters
                       |    within the veil."  Hebrews 6:19 (NASVB)
From: Arthur@cswamp.apana.org.au (Arthur Marsh)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Distribution: world
Subject: Long's Christian music [was Petra completeists and Bill Baumgart fans]
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 00:02:10 +1000

On Fri 04 Dec at 00:00 sysop@narnia.UUCP (Jim Vestal) wrote:

> Check out yer new Long's Catalogue!  

They have a new address and phone number:

        Long's Christian Music
        1610 Edgewater Drive
        Orlando Florida 32804
        USA

Ph      +1-407-422-0293

Fax     +1-407-649-1914

God bless,
 
Arthur.

 * Origin: Camelot Swamp MJCNA, Hawthorndene, Sth Australia
(8:7000/8)
From: dexter@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Daniel Amos, DA, etc. on CD?
Date: 1 Jan 93 14:09:19 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Which Daniel Amos, DA, Swirling Eddies (etc.) recordings are available on CD, 
and where can you get them?  I have Alarma!, Fearful Symmetry, and Darn Floor -
Big Bite.  I'd love to find Horrendous Disk, Doppelganger and Vox Humana.

Will someone please post a complete DA (etc.) discography?

Thanks
Rick Mundy
From: dsc9hmr@bumed10.med.navy.mil (H. Mike Rice)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: RE:CONTRADICTIONS
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:54:18 GMT
Distribution: rec.music.christian
Organization: elf____electronic learning facilitator, inc


Folks,

Our wisdom is foolishness to God ... I am impressed that such a
learned individual can completely and blindly make statements
which are not biblically sound.  His position of knowledge is
truly ignorant by virtue of his lack of information concerning
the characteristics of the Old Testiment God.  He obviously has
not researched his text or he would have never made the 
statements.  There should never be any level of defense to the
perfectly woven truths and absolute consistancy within God's
Word.  The only reality is that of eternity and upon the
threshold of the eternity these individuals will taste the
attributes of their 'Old Testiment' God.

Our position is never one of apologetics but one of sound
knowledge of whom we believe and trust.  Remember that we
wrestle not with flesh and blood ....

In your 'closet' is where these battles are won !!

By His Grace

-- rice

--
|                    H. Mike Rice    |    elf_______________________
| |  dsc9hmr@bumed10.med.navy.mil    |         Empowerment through
|_|_____    rice@access.digex.com    |             Education !
  |_______                           |______________________________
From: dsc9hmr@bumed10.med.navy.mil (H. Mike Rice)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: CONTRADICTIONS
Date: 31 Dec 92 17:24:35 GMT
Organization: elf____electronic learning facilitator, inc

Chris,

Stacey has a tremendous sense of humor ... you need to follow her 
postings to get a feel for her style.  I can almost see her giggling
and typing.  Just from I have read, those who flamebait via garbage
in this newsgroup get garbage back.  Those who are sincere, get
sincerity.  

STACEY ... KEEP IT UP !!  We all need to learn how to increase the
thickness of our spiritual skins !!  

I personally do not partake in apologetics.  God is God !! PERIOD.  
If He says, 'yes' I move, if He says, 'no', I do not.  That sense of
who He is, keeps me from defending Him.  He doesn't need my defense.

There are others, who ... maybe ... the Lord has called to
apologetics.  Stacey seems to be one of them.  Her insight is keen,
especially when it comes to flamebaits and sincerity.  

THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION HERE !!

Stacey, I know I sound like I'm speaking for you ... I'm sorry.  I'm
sure you will enjoy creating a followup thread, of which, I'm looking
forward to reading !!!

By His Grace,

-- rice 

--
|                    H. Mike Rice    |    elf_______________________
| |  dsc9hmr@bumed10.med.navy.mil    |         Empowerment through
|_|_____    rice@access.digex.com    |             Education !
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Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White)
Subject: Re: Stryper
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:17:47 GMT

In article <1663@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM> hruo@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Hiro Ruo) writes:
>i don't know if this subject ever came up, or if people using this newsgroup
>even consider Stryper a Christian music band, but.....

I most certainly do ...

>has anyone heard anything about them?  They put out several REALLY good albums
>early in their career (first 4), hit the pop charts, then suddenly
>disappeared.  i know they had another release in addition to a Greatest Hits
>album after the first four, but it just wasn't the same.  

Yellow & Black attack EP - *most* triumphant, possibly their best work
Soldiers Under Command - Not bad
To Hell with the Devil - getting a little soft, but Michael finally did learn
                          how to stop singing and just scream on key 
                          occasionally
In God We Trust - Only 2 good songs (In God we trust & the reign)
Against the Law - new producer, moving back to the raw edge of their earlier
                  albums, wider variety of subject matter, just better in
                  general than their last two

Also in that time frame:

Yellow and Black attack re-mixes - not as good as the original
Reason for the season picture disk single - most excellent version of 
                                            "Winter Wonderland"
Greatest Hits album - name escapes me

>Did the band break up?  Do they have another album forthcoming?  what
>happened?

Last I heard, Michael left the band to pursue mellower music and the band
was going to move back towards its edge. I heard that they had found a 
replacement and that an album from each was forthcoming.

Anyone heard anything more recent?


Topher (Metal lives / Mozart forever)
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