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From: ohl@dk-vs.UUCP (Ralf Ohlhausen)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Trans-Siberian Railway, cheap tickets?
Date: 21 Jul 92 09:23:28 GMT
Organization: Digital-Kienzle Computersyst.  7730 Villingen/Germany

Steve_Lammert@transarc.com writes:

>sveini@mack.uit.no (Svein-Ivar Lillehaug) writes:
>> Where in Europe is it possible to buy the cheapest tickets to the
>> Trans-Siberian-Railway from Moscow to Bejing?

>A warning about the Trans-Siberian Railway:

>She reports that crime is rampant on trains traveling in the
>Russia/Mongolia and Mongolia/China frontier regions.  By "crime" she
>refers to muggings, armed robbery, and murder (as opposed to
>pickpockets and the like) -- resulting, claim the local papers, from
>the collapse of the Russian and Mongolian currencies during the past
>year.

There was a report on TV a couple of weeks ago. The trains from Bejing
to Moscow are crowded with Chinese people selling clothes and shoes
on every train station all the way to Moscow. They make big earnings
on this, so they usually fly back. There should be no problem with this
in the direction you want to go. Although the deals within the Chinese
and the Russians aren't very polite, they didn't mention any severe
problems like robbery or murder. However, it didn't look very comfortable!

When I have been there in 1984 it was a very nice, comfortable trip and
the cheapest tickets were sold in Hungary or equally in the Hungarian
travel agencies in Germany. This was due to the 3 times better currency
exchange rate compared to other Eastern European countries. Probably
this changed but I don't know.

Ralf
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From: mark.seltzer@rose.com (mark seltzer)
Subject: Indonesia
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 03:28:01 GMT
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Date Entered: 07-25-92 22:21

C(>In article <92205.085700JXO8@psuvm.psu.edu> JXO8@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
C(>>My friend is leaving this weekend for Indonesia.  She is requesting i
C(>>on Borobudor (Island of Java) and places to stay in Bali.  Also any i
C(>>on beaches and out-of-the-way places to stay in Bali would be appreci
C(>>She is trying to avoid tourist traps in Bali.  Thanks!
C(>
C(>Borobudor is one of the few remaining Hindu ruins in Java. The tour
C(>guides say that it a comparible to Angkor Wat in Cambodia. It's a 
C(>very beautiful structure in a very nice location and is well worth 
C(>visiting. There are many tours every day which leave from Yogyakarta.
C(>It would probably be good to ask how long the tour will actually
C(>spend at Borobudor; my tour was just there about two hours and that
C(>really isn't enough.

Borobudur is a Buddhist monument, NOT a Hindu monument.

The best course of action for the friend of psuvm.psu.edu is to purchase 
some of:

Insight Guides to Java, Bali, and to Indonesia.
Lonely Planet Guides to Bali & Lombok, and to Indonesia.
Moon Publications Indonesia Handbook.
Periplus Editions Guides to Java, and to Bali.

The Insight and Periplus guides provide the best cultural background and 
photographs, to help one decide where to go. In my experience, the 
Periplus guides are better. The Moon and LP guides are best for practical 
advice on logistics for when one is travelling.

For information on Borobudur, try Borobudur by Jacques Dumarcay, OUP.

/mark

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From: achiang@sedona.intel.com (Albert Chiang)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: How to find what used to be route 66? HELP!
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:51:49 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation
Originator: achiang@sedona


In article <FAIGIN.92Jul14072816@soldan.aero.org>, faigin@aero.org (Daniel P. Faigin) writes:
> On 13 Jul 1992 18:54:34 -0500, PORTIGAL_STEVE#CADDY@tandem.com said:
> 
> OK, folks. Let's start in Chicago. I can't give exact streets, but look for
> the business route for I55 (I55 replaced US66). Take the business route down
> to St. Louis, following the BR when possible, or I55 when not. In St. Louis,
> transfer to I44 (same BR route applies) until you get to Oklahoma City. There,
> you pick up I40. Take I40 from Ok. City to Barstow, following business routes
> where possible. In Arizona, near Kingman, take AZ66. In California, after you
> cross the state line, take the National Trails Hwy through Perth and Amboy.
> Once you hit Barstow, follow I15 or the Natl Trails Hwy until you reach San
> Bernadino. Pick up CA66 (Foothill) and go west. Foothill will become
> Huntington and then Colorado.  Work your way through Pasadena on Colorado,
> going until you reach Figuroa.  Take Figuroa S. through Los Angeles until you
> hit US101 (or Santa Monica Blvd). Follow Santa Monica Blvd through LA west
> until you reach the ocean.  Look for the plaque at Santa Monica and Ocean Bl
> commemorating the end of the Will Rogers Hwy, the Main Street of the US, US66.
> 
> Daniel


Hi Folks,



I just picked up the Depeche Mode special mix "Route 66" CD. The cities
mentioned above sounded almost exactly like the lyrics in the song. How about
playing this song in the car as you drive for directions.... :)



Albert



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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: markn@ssd.comm.mot.com (Mark Nowak)
Subject: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Carnival Info Request
Organization: Motorola
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:48:25 GMT

I'm thinking about flying to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil 
with some friends for their Carnival celebration.  Can
anyone send me some information on what it's like?  What
not to miss and what to avoid?  Where to stay?  Any
personal experiences?  Any help would be very much
appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

-- 
Mark Nowak                          | By means of the easy and the simple we
SWM, 25, 5'11", seeking SF ...      | grasp the laws of the whole world.  When
Chicago, Illinois                   | the laws of the whole world are grasped,
INTERNET: markn@ssd.comm.mot.com    | therein lies perfection. - I Ching
From: U48073@uicvm.uic.edu (Cole Kendall)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Passport needed for visa?
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:44:58 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

In article <22JUL199207314977@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov>, packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov
(Charles Packer) says:
>
>Do I need to have a U.S. passport in hand to apply for a visa
>to some other country? (I'm planning to go to Hungary and
>Yugoslavia)

I don't know about Yugoslavia, but no visa is needed to go to Hungary
these days.

Cole Kendall
From: max@garmisch.dr.att.com (54626-PadroM(DR1850)250)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: London/Amsterdam Hotels
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:29:04 GMT
Reply-To: max@drutx!att.com
Organization: Bell Labs, DCTT, Denver, Co.

I'm sorry to say that I haven't received any recommendations
for Hotesl in the London/Amsterdam Area.  Please, if you have
any let me know ( There was interest from at least another poster
as well!)

Thanks

Max Padro
From: nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu (John Nall)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Quito, Equador......lo conoces??
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:06:48 GMT
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

Well, after thinking long and hard, I've decided to go to
Quito instead of Costa Rica.  Mostly because I've never
been there, whereas I've been to C.R. half a dozen times.
Seeing the Andes is something that I've always yearned
to do.

So this is just a general note wondering if anyone has
any particular recommendations on hotels to stay in (cheap
but good), things to particularly see, etc.  

Before some busybody flames me, let me say that I have a
(very well worn) copy of the SA Handbook, as well as Fordors,
and am well aware of what they say.  But supplementing that
information with current info from somone who has been there
recently is, IMHO, worthwhile.

Thanks,

John


--
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nall@mailer.scri.fsu.edu  | Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL 32306
  Stephen King, bah!   The best horror story ever written is "Dance of the Dwarfs" 
     by Geoffrey Household.  Probably you never heard of it, though :-(
From: kkohtamaki@cc.helsinki.fi (Kimmo Kohtamaki)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Rainy season in Mexico?
Date: 26 Jul 92 20:19:28 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki


I'll be travelling in Mexico in August-September. 
Is there a rainy season in Mexico? And if is, when?
What does it mean (light showers or mud lakes)?
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kimmo Kohtamaki             kkohtamaki@cc.helsinki.fi
University of Helsinki      IN%"kkohtamaki@cc.helsinki.fi"
Finland
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: bsloan@dale.ksc.nasa.gov (bill sloan)
Subject: need Victoria BC B&B info
Organization: nasa
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:23:52 GMT

Help:  I will be travelling to Victoria, BC next month and would appreciate
any and all recommendations on Bed & Breakfasts in the area.  Any additional
info on must see sights is also appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Bill Sloan
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: 37_366@uwovax.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Overnight in London
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:34:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.004742.863@terminator.cc.umich.edu>, anton@gomez.physics.lsa.umich.edu (Anton Zavriyev) writes:
> 
> 
> Hi folks!
> 
> In September I'll be in London for ~ 14hrs (20:00 to 10:00 next morning).  I
> have never been there before.  Thus, the following ?'s:
> 
> 
> 1.   What should I see?
> 2.   How can I get there from the H-w airport?
> 3.   Where can I find an inexpensive overnight accomodations?
> 4.   Is it a good idea to just hit the streets, and then come back to the
>      airport and spend the night there?
> 5.   What kind of weather should one expect in the end of September in London?
> 
> 
> Please, reply to me directly (otherwise, I am likely to miss your reply).
> 
> 			Thank you in advance,
> 					Anton
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Subject: Re: Black Death?? Lake Tahoe??
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:20:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.214052.125541@cs.cmu.edu>, jennie+@cs.cmu.edu (Jennifer Kay) writes:
> OK, I know this is a bit strange, but anyway. Some friends of mine
> from abroad are coming to visit the US soon. One of them has heard
> that there has been an outbreak of the "Black Death" at Lake Tahoe.
> Does anyone know anything about this? Does anyone know if there is any
> reason to be worried about visiting Yosemite?

Some ground squirrels and other rodents throughout California are
reputed to carry fleas carrying the plague.  I've been hearing this
for a decade or two.  I think there might have been a case of one or
two people getting it in Southern California in the early 1980's.  

For that matter, raccoons are often carriers of rabies.

All the more reason to do like the authorities say, and don't pet or
feed the wild animals.  

To put this in perspective, up to 6 tourists a year in Yosemite get swept over 
waterfalls while wading, fall off the cliffs, or get struck by lightning.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
John Reece		
Not an Intel spokesman  
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: schaffer@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Doug Schaffer)
Subject: Re: Visit to Montreal (Assie Gildenhuys)
Organization: U. of Calgary Computer Science
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 17:27:52 GMT

Assie, 

I couldn't get your email address to work.  Here is some info.  I hope it's
helpful.

Here is a list of colleges/universities in Montreal.  Alas, I have never
been to Montreal (but I've still hoping, I hear it's beautiful) and so I
don't have any idea WHERE in Montreal any of these places are.  You might
call one (these are the main switchboard numbers) and tell them where
your conference is and ask which 1 or 2 universities and colleges might
be closest.  There is the *possibility* that these phones will be answered
in french and *might* not be able to speak in english...though this is
probably unlikely.  You might post a request for a Province of Quebec or
City of Montreal Tourist Information Numbers and see if that can provide
you another lead.   The Quebec Tourism number is 1-800-363-7777 (no charge
dial for Canada and United States).  Hope this helps.  Good luck and enjoy
Montreal!

QUEBEC Universities and Colleges of Canada
======                                Location/Postal Code     Area Code/number
Concordia University                 Montreal, Quebec H3G 1M8   (514) 848-2424
Ecole de technologie superieure      Montreal, Quebec H2T 1R0   (514) 289-8800
McGillUniversity                     Montreal, Quebec H3A 2T5   (514) 398-4455
Universite de Montreal               Montreal, Quebec H3C 3J7   (514) 343-6111
Universite de Quebec:
  Ecole do technologie superieure    Montreal, Quebec G1K 7P4   (514) 289-8800
  a Montreal                         Montreal, Quebec H3C 3P8   (514) 987-3000
Ecole des Hautes Etudes Commerciales Montreal, Quebec H3T 1V6   (514) 340-6000
Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal      Montreal, Quebec H3C 3A7   (514) 340-4711

Doug Schaffer, University of Calgary, schaffer@cpsc.ucalgary.ca
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 12:52:52 -0400 
From: "Louise B. McFeaters" <lm00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Scuba in Hawaii

Where are the best places to scuba in Hawaii? And is the water (down to
about 60 feet) warm enough that I don't need to bring a wetsuit? Thanks
for responding

Louise
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: laku@vipunen.hut.fi (Lauri H Eklin)
Subject: Re: InterRail - 5 nations exit
Reply-To: laku@vipunen.hut.fi (Lauri H Eklin)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:33:20 GMT

In article <psima01.711620486@convex> psima01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (M. Maisack) writes:
>fyi,
>
>I read in Sunday's paper that
>France, Italy, Spain, Portugal and Morocco
>will not be part of InterRail from next year on.
>
>Michael
>

	Understandable. The French and Spanish trains are
	hugely crowded in summer. The Interrailers bring in
	money only a fraction compared to the "paying" passengers
	but turn many trains into cattle-wagons.
	And the Interrailers seem to be only from the nordic
	countries and Germany. I've been IR:ing during a couple
	of summers and to see a south european out of his own
	country and not being on a package-tour seems to a rarity
	comparable only to seeing an individual Japanese traveller :-)
	The benefitors of this system have always been the north
	europeans. 
	I suppose that the number of people going IR:ing in future
	will reduce a lot. 
	And us, the generation of old railers, will be telling
	our grand-children stories about the times when we travelled
	half-free on the trains of europe, from an adventure to
	another.. :-)
	Sigh..
From: ohl@dk-vs.UUCP (Ralf Ohlhausen)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Trans-Siberian Railway, cheap tickets?
Date: 21 Jul 92 09:44:45 GMT
Organization: Digital-Kienzle Computersyst.  7730 Villingen/Germany

Steve_Lammert@transarc.com writes:

 >sveini@mack.uit.no (Svein-Ivar Lillehaug) writes:
 >> Where in Europe is it possible to buy the cheapest tickets to the
 >> Trans-Siberian-Railway from Moscow to Bejing?

 >A warning about the Trans-Siberian Railway:

 >She reports that crime is rampant on trains traveling in the
 >Russia/Mongolia and Mongolia/China frontier regions.  By "crime" she
 >refers to muggings, armed robbery, and murder (as opposed to
 >pickpockets and the like) -- resulting, claim the local papers, from
 >the collapse of the Russian and Mongolian currencies during the past
 >year.

There was a report on TV a couple of weeks ago. The trains from Bejing
to Moscow are crowded with Chinese people selling clothes and shoes
on every train station all the way to Moscow. They make big earnings
on this, so they usually fly back. There should be no problem with this
in the direction you want to go. Although the deals within the Chinese
and the Russians aren't very polite, they didn't mention any severe
problems like robbery or murder. However, it didn't look very comfortable!

When I have been there in 1984 it was a very nice, comfortable trip and
the cheapest tickets were sold in Hungary or equally in the Hungarian
travel agencies in Germany. This was due to the 3 times better currency
exchange rate compared to other Eastern European countries. Probably
this changed but I don't know.

Ralf
From: huangj@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Juliet Huang)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Price of train from Gatwick to London?
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:15:58 GMT
Reply-To: huangj@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Juliet Huang)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

Hi,
I'll be landing in Gatwick airport and would like to know the
exact price in pounds to Victoria Station.  Does anyone
know?

Thanks a lot!

Julie
huangj@oasys.dt.navy.mil
From: reno@darlo.Eng.Sun.COM (Reno Marioni)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Renting a car & apartment in Sydney for 3 months
Date: 30 Jul 1992 22:44:35 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: darlo

In article <2A785C72.11533@ics.uci.edu> pazzani@ics.uci.edu (Michael Pazzani) writes:
>I'm taking a sabbatical to the University of Sydney, Australia for 3
>months starting in January.  Does anyone have any idea how I'd find a
>furnished two bedroom apartment for this period (In the US, many large
>cities have Oakwood apartments, is there an Austalian equivalent).
>How about leasing or renting a car for 3 months?  Can this be done
>relatively cheaply.
>
>Thanks
>Mike

Mike,
Just check out the Saturday (and Weds I believe) Sydney Morning Herald
for apartments.  The rents are less than California and you pay by the
week.  You might want to find shared housing if you are on your own.
Get an international drivers license as well.  car rates are comparable
to here--maybe a little more.  Don't expect to buy material goods that are
made outside Australia as they are heavily tariffed(levi's,raybans,cd's,etc).

Sydney is a great city.  Loved it so much I got my residency there.
Also, if someone says "Septic Tank", they're talking about you.  That's
what Yanks are called there.  Cockney slang.

Cheers,
Reno




Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Travel Tips
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:24:10 GMT

->>Never take the first hotel room they show you.  It's usually
->>the smallest, darkest, and in the back. 

obviously you're staying in budget hotels; this usually doesn't happen
in hotels of higher standard.

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri)
Subject: Re: Price of train from Gatwick to London?
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 23:50:27 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>It cost me 8 pounds about 3 weeks ago.  Thats $20CDN for a glorified
>"subway" ride.  Now I know why it's cheaper to fly into Gatwick.

It *is* a fair distance, after all.  It's no big deal for me, since my
BritRail pass is supposed to cover that train.  For me there wasn't a choice
(or even concern) for which airport I fly into, although I was able to book
my return flight out of Glasgow instead.

-- 

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From: G0900@vmcms.csuohio.edu
Subject: Re: Greece where to stay?
Organization: CSU
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:23:12 GMT

Remember when looking for the hotels that are involved in the
"Summer Celebration" These prices can only be booked from the States.
I know there are many hotels involved.  I believe this program was
started to help pick up travel to Greece.  So I would highly recommend
that you check these hotels out.
 
Katherine  Pasalis  g0900 at csuohio  or g0900.vmcms.csuohio.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: wlim@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Willie Lim)
Subject: Re: Collecting Visa stamps (was: Passport needed for visa?)
Organization: Grumman Corporation, Bethpage, New York, USA.
	<1992Jul23.085003.28241@athena.mit.edu>
	<WLIM.92Jul23085228@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM>
	<1992Jul28.063946.21107@ads.com>
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:48:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.063946.21107@ads.com> henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:

   i didn't get a visa/entry stamp at charles de gaulle last october ...

Somebody else pointed that out to me too.  The last time I flew into
Charles de Gaulle was in the early 80's.  So that Charles de Gaulle
stamp on my passport must now be worth something.:-) Anyway my
passport was stamped at Heathrow in May/June of this year.

Actually without an entry visa stamp, how do they know how long you
have been in the country?  Or do they assume that US citizens tend not
to over-stay or work there as "illegals"?



Willie
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: wlim@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Willie Lim)
Subject: Collecting Visa stamps (was: Passport needed for visa?)
Organization: Grumman Corporation, Bethpage, New York, USA.
	<1992Jul22.204728.25008@ads.com>
	<1992Jul23.085003.28241@athena.mit.edu>
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:52:28 GMT

While we are on the subject of visas, in our recent trip to
Switzerland, Austria, Italy, and Paris, except for one instance,
nobody put a visa stamp on our US passports.  That includes
immigration at the Zurich airport (that's the first time for an
European airport in our experience; they stamp your passport at
Heathrow and Charles De Gaulle airposts for example), the train border
crossing from Switzerland to Austria, at the autobahn immigration
check-points between Austria and Germany and back, on the
autobahn/autostrada immigration check-points between Austria and Italy
and back, and the TGV ride from Switzerland to Paris.  The only
instance we got a visa stamp was when we asked the border guard on the
train from Austria to Swizterland to stamp our passport.  He was very
nice about it though he was jokingly mumbling about the work involved
(i.e. he had to take the stamp out of his bad, opened our passports
and stamped them).  I wished we had asked for out passports to be
stamped every time we enter one of those countries.  Those visa stamps
on our passports would be great souvenirs.  Imagine going through
Swizterland, Germany, Austria, Italy, and France with only one lousy
visa stamp to show. :-) (We also missed those from Belgium and the
Netherlands from an earlier trip).

So if you are into collecting visa stamps, don't forget to ask for
them while travelling through Western Europe (unless you are in a
hurry to get through the border :-).




Willie
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (David A. Braun)
Subject: Disney World (FAQ?)
Originator: dab@space3
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:53:24 GMT

If there is a Disney World FAQ, will someone please either forward it to me
or else point me to it?

If not...
Are there any "deals" to be had on accomodations AT Disney World?
Ditto air fares TO DW.

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

David Braun aka dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu
"Sit down and SHUT UP!" - George Bush to his constituency
From: ilonen@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Kai Ilonen)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: UK+Ireland
Date: 21 Jul 92 08:20:13 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Hi!

I just booked tickets to London, and after four weeks make it back here from
Dublin. So, what to see and do (and NOT to see nor do) in London, UK and
Ireland. 

Also I'm interested if you had trouble using VISA (and I mean while
there, not afterwards :-) or travelers checks, or getting a room when 
travelling with girlfriend.

Also, if not :-)
					-Kai-

ps. email preferrded, but I'll do my best to follow.