From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: The new X-Force and U.X-Men
Date: 10 Sep 92 02:48:24 GMT
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Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <18k80oINNju@venture.ksu.ksu.edu> lazarus@venture.ksu.ksu.edu (Bart -Laz- Smith) writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep5.071742.15574@news.columbia.edu>, jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jonathan M Lennox) writes:
>>  Now if only they'd follow up the last panel of the X-tinction
>>Agenda...I want Doug and Warlock back!
>
>Although I THOROUGHLY hated the way that Warlock, as a character, was merely
>squandered as a casualty in the X-STINKtion Agenda, I believe that he should
>STAY
>dead... the same holds for Doug Ramsey.  As someone else pointed out, the 
>revolving door theory of death in the Marvel Universe truly SUCKS, a plot 
>device
>that if (WHEN!) I start writing for comic books, will NOT be used. (Okay, maybe
>for just ONE character, but then again, his POWER is to come back from the 
>dead...  >;)   )  

I (reluctantly) agree.  I would definitely like to see dead people stay
dead.  Bringing back Jean Grey was truly, truly horrible.  Of course,
before Louise "Characterization is making everyone act stereotypical
when they've never acted that way before" Simonson mangled New Mutants
(the beginning of the end), Doug was one of my favorite characters.
*Sigh*  Unfortunately, I don't think we can get Claremont to do some
sort of Doug Ramsey special, so I guess I should hope that I never
see Doug again.

Oh, and this person with the power to come back from the dead one of
your own creations, or is it an established character (like Mr. Immortal
from the Great Lakes Avengers)?

>>(That would leave just Dani and Illyana to de-Weezie-ize,
>
>My theory on Illyana? Give her a few years, and her mutant talent (the teleport
>disks!) will emerge for real. And this time, with Belasco out of the picture, I
>believe that she won't have to traverse ""Limbo"" to get anywhere... she'll be
>able to 'port any damn where she pleases!  :)  (Speaking of Limbo, Shadowcat
>deserves the Soulsword!!!!!!!)

What exactly is Illyana's power?  I thought it specifically involved
teleporting by passing through Limbo, so that part COULDN'T be cut out.

Hey, wait a minute!  In Uncanny X-Men #161 (I think, the issue where
Illyana "skips" seven years), the X-Men got into Limbo by getting
snagged by some of these "stepping disks."  How were they activated?
Did Belasco cause Illyana's power to prematurely and subconsciously
activate?  Does Illyana actually have her powers currently?  Were
they just similar disks, and not actually Illyana's?  Inquiring minds
want to know!!!!!!

>>and Shan to resolve danglers (I heard she's appeared in recent Wolverines?  Can
>>anyone give a brief plot summary?) 
>
>Well, Karma's appeared off and on in Wolvie's title.  She's in the service of
>her
>uncle in Madripoor, and he's supposedly looking for her little brother and
>sister.
>It's an old, tired plot twist, that I wish to hell they'd hurry up and resolve!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!   This is Marvel we're
talking about here!  It's probably an editorial policy that they're not
allowed to resolve dangling subplots like this!  (It wouldn't surprise
me).  Much as I'd like to see it resolved, it's not gonna happen anytime
soon!