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From:         lpraderio <lpraderi@cliff.whoi.edu>
Subject:      List of supercomputing sites on Internet?
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Hello,

I'm new to this list and have a question I would appreciate any help with.

I'm looking for a list of supercomputing sites that are available to the
research community.  Our computing center wants to find or put together a list
of sites that our scientists can use.

Do you know of any reports that list the sites, contacts, who can use the site,
costs, etc.  We tried NSF but they only told us about the ones they fund (e.g.,
MIT isn't listed but can be used by people outside of their community.)

I  tried the Internet Resource Guide but that is not inclusive (mostly NSF-
funded/goverment-funded).  I also tried SUPERNET but didn't find any info.

Any reports and papers or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Laura Praderio
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
lpraderio@whoi.edu
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 10:18:22 PST
From:         "Dwight M. McCann" <DWIGHT@UCSBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Continue APPC-L List?

Jim,

I certainly understand your frustration with this list.  While I appreciate
that I bear none of the burden, I would very much like you to keep APPC-L
alive.  I know very little about VTAM, almost nothing about LU type 2 PU 0
devices, and just a little about LU6.2 (all that I know is in the APPCDEMO
program I contributed.) However, I have been given the task of writing a
"Terminal Server" that will be developed under VM/XA SP 2.1 and go into
production under MVS/XA.  It will be an application from a VTAM menu on one
side, handling 3270 input.  On the other side, it will drive LU6.2
conversations with an application on an RS/6000 running AIX, hopefully to
support "signons".  I may well need to get assistance from those subscribed
to this list.

On the other hand, maybe there just isn't enough APPC stuff going on that
people can share to make the list worthwhile.  We have a list here,
COMTEN-L, with about 160 subscribers and less traffic than APPC-L, and have
the same concerns.  I have thought about starting a VTAM Programming List
(versus installation and configuration) but fear that it, too, would go
nowhere.

Maybe developers know everything so they don't subscribe, and maybe the rest
of us feel we know so little that we are too embarrassed to share.  I'd like
to know if anyone else is writing any code, and if so, what for?

Dwight McCann : "Big signature blocks are very inconsiderate!"
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 11:43:00 EST
From:         "Gilbert, Howard" <gilbert@CISPO1.CIS.YALE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Continue APPC-L List?

Yale University C&IS has developed a C language version of the CPIC
subroutines which run over
any generic byte stream protocol.  In particular, it runs over named pipes
and over TCP sockets.
There are two objectives:
   1) Combined with a three page TP which repeats to a remote server
everything done to it by
       a remote client, this provides a gateway between real SNA LU 6.2 and
APPC-over-TCP so
       that APPC transactions can use the internet.  In particular, it links
two remote university CICS
      mainframe systems using the NSF network.
  2) A non-SNA host (a DOS or Windows named pipes client, or a real UNIX
TCP/IP client or
       server) can gain indirectly communicate with a SNA client or server
through a gateway
      (an RS/6000 or OS/2 machine with real SNA).

Another location used some CPIC extensions we provided so that an LU 6.2
mainframe client
could access a TCP server (in particular using Z39.50 protocol).

APPC is carried over a byte stream by inventing a record structure (length
field followed by data)
and inserting control information between records (Confirm, Change of
Direction, Deallocate).  The
gateway operates at the APPC verb layer.  There are no Request Units or SNA
headers in the
byte stream.  The middle TP can be dumb or it can provide value added
processing (translating
EBCDIC to ASCII, well someone has to do it and the application programmers
should not have
to worry).

We are about to being work on a project which will use Generic APPC (over
all protocols) to develop
a distributed print manager.  APPC has the advantage that one protocol can
handle file transfer
and control operations (query, cancel, hold, release).
 ----------

I, too, would like to know who's doing what with APPC.  Is anyone
adopting or migrating to LU6.2 from some other protocol (i.e. TCP/IP)?
Is anyone rejecting or migrating from LU6.2?

Tom Thomas
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 92 15:36:23 CST
From:         Bill Harvey <HARVEY@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu>
Subject:      LU6.2: 3270-to-AIX (was: Re: Continue APPC-L List?)
Newsgroups:   bit.listserv.appc-l

On Mon, 28 Dec 1992 10:18:22 PST, "Dwight M. McCann" <DWIGHT@UCSBVM.BITNET>
said:
>                                 I have been given the task of writing a
>"Terminal Server" that will be developed under VM/XA SP 2.1 and go into
>production under MVS/XA.  It will be an application from a VTAM menu on one
>side, handling 3270 input.  On the other side, it will drive LU6.2
>conversations with an application on an RS/6000 running AIX, hopefully to
>support "signons".

Is this kind of a "poor man's VSCS for AIX?"  Except instead of running
as a CDRSC, it'll run over an LU6.2 link?  Or did I misunderstand?

This sounds interesting.  I hope you'll keep us posted.  Er, that is, if
there's still a list you can post to!  :-)

[...]
>                    I have thought about starting a VTAM Programming List
>(versus installation and configuration)

I would hope that's what people would use APPC-L for.  But if you did
create it, you could count me as a lurker!  :-)

>                                        but fear that it, too, would go
>nowhere.

I suspect you're right.

>Maybe developers know everything so they don't subscribe,

Doncha just hate those kinda people?!!?  :-)

>                                                          and maybe the rest
>of us feel we know so little that we are too embarrassed to share.  I'd like
>to know if anyone else is writing any code, and if so, what for?

I don't have time to write code.  But I'm interested in learning about the
issues.  So I tend to just watch, and not contribute much.  Sorry.

Bill
>Dwight McCann : "Big signature blocks are very inconsiderate!"
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 1993 12:20:05 EST
From:         Steve Joyce <sjoyce@VNET.IBM.COM>
Subject:      APPC

Hi.  I am from APPC Market Enablement.  We are a group in IBM that has
the task of making APPC, APPN and CPI-C as successful as possible.  So
far, most of our support has been through our offering on CompuServe
and the APPC CFORUM on the OS/2 bulletin boards.  We can offer two
things:

  - question and answer support (this is easy here)

  - samples, articles, programs, ...

So....

What kind of things would you like to see here?  One thing we have on
our IBM VM systems is a forum called APPCNEWS.  It includes summaries
of news items we find in the trade press about APPC.  Would you like to
see those?  I can also put out information about APPC classes and
conferences that we are holding.  (Our next APPC Developer's Conference
is in July in Boston!!)

I will be happy to provide as much support as possible.  You let me
know what you want to see.

- Steve Joyce
  Mgr, APPC Market Enablement
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 12:16:58 CST
From:         Tim.Eisler@UIC.EDU
Subject:      Re: Continue APPC-L List?
              from Jim McIntosh <JIM@AMERICAN.EDU>

I hope to do more work with APPC on VM/ESA with OS/2 2.0 + ES 1.0 once we
have a token ring to SNA gateway (a 3172 mod 1 to which we're adding T/R
cards).  I want to do more with VM to VM and do some OS/2 to VM stuff. I
hope to have OS/2 talk to SQL/DS at some point, but I have no idea when.
My primary responsibilies aren't in this area -- I like to explore. I'll
certainly contribute more when I have something. Please continue the
group.

Tim Eisler
Systems Programmer
Computer Center
University of Illinois at Chicago
From: sjoyce@VNET.IBM.COM (Steve Joyce)
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Subject: THE APPC CONNECTION Newsletter
Date: 3 Jan 93 18:35:35 GMT
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How can you get the latest on APPC, APPN, and CPI-C?
Subscribe to THE APPC CONNECTION!

What is it?
-----------

A bimonthly newsletter that provides you with an interactive forum
to answer your questions and give you the latest news on APPC, APPN,
and CPI-C.

What's in it?
-------------

 - Feature articles on industry news and trends
 - Tips and techniques for programmers
 - Case studies of businesses that are using APPC and APPN
 - New APPC products, books, classes, and conferences
 - Interviews with leading consultants
 - And much more ....


How to subscribe to THE APPC CONNECTION
---------------------------------------

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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 12:54:26 EST
From:         Jim McIntosh <JIM@AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject:      Continue APPC-L List?

Greetings from the very inactive APPC-L list! This list has had only one
substantive post in the last six months, and yet it has 121 subscribers
in seventeen different countries... and there is a steady stream of new
subscribers. Clearly people are hoping for some value from this list, but
not much is being presented. It seems rather pointless to maintain an
inactive mailing list, but we will if the subscribers want it kept
around for future discussions.

I put it to you: Should this list continue to exist, or should we close
it down? If you feel the list should continue, is there anything we can
do make it more helpful (such as providing an ftp repository of APPC
programs and examples such as those offered recently by Tim Eisler)?

Jim McIntosh (jim@american.edu)
The American University
Washington DC 20016-8019 USA
From: thomas@PONDER.CSCI.UNT.EDU (Tom Thomas)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.appc-l
Subject: Re: Continue APPC-L List?
Date: 29 Dec 92 03:27:42 GMT
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I see a lot of activity in the CompuServe fora regarding APPC/CPI-C in an
OS/2 environment, with lots of appends from the IBM APPC Market Enablement
folks in Raleigh.  IBM is using CompuServe as a primary support vehicle for
OS/2, and encourages its customers to use it.  I'd much rather use this
list server to avoid the substantial cost for CompuServer access.

Tom Thomas
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:16:42 CST
From:         Joe Moore <CC19@SDSUMUS.SDSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Continue APPC-L List?

I would like to see this list become active, but I would probably
continue to 'lurk' since we don't have any APPC applications yet.

Joe Moore
Administrative Computer Specialist
South Dakota State University
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"A fool finds no pleasure in understanding but delights in airing
his own opinions"
                                        Proverbs 18:2 (NIV)
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 07:35:13 PST
From:         "Dwight M. McCann" <DWIGHT@UCSBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: LU6.2: 3270-to-AIX (was: Re: Continue APPC-L List?)
              28 Dec 1992 15:36:23 CST from <HARVEY@WUVMD.WUSTL.EDU>

Bill,
   Our RS/6000-580 is on order, is our first AIX machine ("We" are the
centralized administrative computing folks), and we have no experience or
documentation, yet.  So, as far as "VSCS for AIX" goes, I wouldn't swear
to it, but I don't think so.  We will have to write an LU6.2 application
in AIX to talk to the "front-end" in MVS and to AIX to "create" sessions.
I am led to believe that session creation is an available interface in
AIX, which is what I intend to use.  My involvement is mostly as a
result of my having explored LU6.2 under VTAM 3.3 in a GCS environment
running under VM/XA SP 2.1, some rapidly aging experience in O/S
environments and lots of practice building and decoding 3270 datastreams.
   There are lots of CUT terminals that we wish to use to access services
on the RS/6000 and this seems to be the most obvious way to go.  It really
shouldn't be an overwhelming task, and I will be glad to share what I find
out as I ask questions on this list.

Dwight
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 13:41:59 EST
From:         scott_ankrum@VNET.IBM.COM
Subject:      (U) Continue APPC-L?

 I can think of two reasons for the inactivity of this conference.
 One is the APPC forum on Compuserver that was already mentioned.
 The other is the APPC CFORUM available on IBM's TalkLink and by
 other routes. Subscribers to this list might consider the other two.

 Knowing how tight university budgets can be, I will make inquiries
 into the possibility of cross posting with this conference, but since
 I have no official relationship with either forum, don't hold your
 breath. (Compuserve owns the info. on that forum, so there is no
 hope there.)


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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 10:39:42 EST
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From:         Jim McIntosh <JIM@AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Continue APPC-L List?

Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 21:42:01 -0600
From: thomas@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Tom Thomas)
Subject: Re: Continue APPC-L List?

Dwight McCann said:
> I'd like
> to know if anyone else is writing any code, and if so, what for?

In my last job, I implemented an RPC mechanism for OS/2 using CPI-C as the
programming interface to LU6.2.  It was working between OS/2 and MVS/CICS,
and showed impressive performance.  In my new job, we are contemplating
supporting and using APPC, but are still evaluating the 'market'.

I, too, would like to know who's doing what with APPC.  Is anyone
adopting or migrating to LU6.2 from some other protocol (i.e. TCP/IP)?
Is anyone rejecting or migrating from LU6.2?

Tom Thomas
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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In a previous article, STCHRI@SSCVAX.CIS.MCMASTER.CA ("DOUGL, APPARENTLY.") says:

>the masked message was the editor program itself, that is, all the
>embedded commans it currently held in its buffer when I 'sent' the
>message.

I was reading a message from Eve itself?  Poor thing; it really must be
confused, to send a message like that.  Was there supposed to be a message
from a human in that messs, or really instead of the mess?

>Luckily we are being migrated to a new machine in the coming weeks,
>and the vax monster, a poorly maintained relic of a bygone ers
>a, is
>going back to its lair.
>
Thank goodness!  Antique VAXen are some of the crankiest creatures known to
Userkind.:-)  What are they switching you to?  ["ANYTHING!  WE'LL TAKE ANYTHING
ELSE!" ?:-)]  I just hope it's not an '88.....  

>
-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
	      Where anything can happen, and it usually does
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