From: rlc1028@zeus.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: Homophobes in the Military..what nobody is talking about: (Re: Gays in the Military..what nobody is talking about:)
Date: 11 Dec 1992 23:08 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
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In article <1992Dec11.080537.1288@news.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE>, k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Bakayaroo Banzai) writes...
|In article <1992Dec09.210734.43257@ux1.cts.eiu.edu> cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black) writes:
|>
|>    It is true, too.  Surveys have been published that question young
|>children about such issues, and they have no preconceived notions that
|>same-sex couples are weird, out of place, wrong, etc.  The "Rainbow
|>Program" in the NYC school system is a source of these studies.  Despite
|>the objections of fundie parents, the program is going ahead to present
|>same-sex couples as just another type of family (imagine that!).  The most
|>recent issue of Time has a piece on this program and cites certain
|>supporting studies. 
|>-- 
|Not everyone who objects to homosexuality is a "fundie" as you so
|non-judgementally put it. Many people do have a religious base to
|their objections, it's true, but not all religious people are
|fundamentalists. Many parents would balk at schools teaching
|*anything* of a sexual nature to first-graders.

	Many Homosexual parents and non-parents would also balk at
teaching sex education to first graders.

	I'm not familiar with the Rainbow Program.  Is it actually
teaching sex, or just that there can be family units comprised of
two people of the same gender?



 I don't think it's
|the place of public schools to either promote religion or offend
|believers with what is clearly a propaganda campaign to win 
|hearts and minds. I am not opposed to equal rights for homosexuals
|but I find a dubious double-standard in place here; it's
|not okay to promote the practice of religion in the classroom
|but it's somehow okay to offend the practitioners of those 
|religions with a blatant attempt to persuade their children to
|believe in something which they feel is inappropriate.

	Encourageing kids to go out an fornicate might be in
contradiction to certain reliegious morals.  Informing kids that
there are non-Christian infidels out there who should be tolerated
is perhaps in contradixion to some Christians' principles, but
I don't think it's an infringement of their religious rights.

	It's the nature of the education that is the issue.  Many
who are infavour of including education about same sex family units
are not in favour of same-sex sex education.  There is a difference,
though I am not claiming that this is what is being presented in the
current programmes under question in New York.  I don't know what that
agenda is.


|not typical of a lot of Christians). Why then, is this program
|in NY which offends many people,somehow more defensible?

	It may be that they are not teaching sex ed, but family ed.
Maybe not.

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