HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Subject: Re: Good NeXT ps font collection loaded to sonata!
Organization: The Crimson Permanent Assurance Company
	<BzB8AC.3pE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <1gl5diINNbp6@agate.berkeley.edu>
	<1992Dec16.143415.7270@socrates.umd.edu>
	<1992Dec16.181953.7451@Happy-Man.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:49:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.181953.7451@Happy-Man.com> irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe) writes:
   Various people have expressed skepticism about the public status of
   these fonts because of their high quality.  I don't know the actual
   status and have not downloaded the fonts, but that reason --
   quality -- is a silly one to arouse such concern.

I must admit to being a bit suspicious myself about some of them, but I
believe there is some kind of a Adobe Garamond demo floating around.

However, since these fonts are already at several ftp sites, I see no
reason to keep my work to install them from the net.public -- if it
turns out they were pirated (and I really doubt it in the case of a font
called "ArnoldBoecklin" -- does anyone know who he is?) they can always
be deleted.
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From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Good NeXT ps font collection loaded to sonata!
Date: 16 Dec 1992 17:13:12 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: thanatos.egr.uh.edu

In article <1992Dec16.143415.7270@socrates.umd.edu> ice@socrates.umd.edu  
(Fredrik Nyman) writes:
#nweaver@soda.berkeley.edu (Nicholas C. Weaver) writes:
#
#>In article <BzB8AC.3pE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> erno@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu  
(Ernest F.B. Pena) writes:
#>>Are these fonts public domain or shareware? From the names, it seems
#>>these are commercial fonts sold by Adobe or ITC or whoever for
#>>$150+?
#
#>	I've downloaded them and looked at em, and they do appear to be
#>Adobe issue.  I believe Garamond is a very specific font by Adobe, and  
all
#>of them seem to be of REALLY high (read Commercial) quality. 
#Nope.  The AFM (Adobe Font Metric) files may be Adobe issue, but the
#fonts themselves don't seem to be.  I used the FontLister utility to 
#print samples of the Garamond font and compared to Adobe's own
#Garamond.  They're similar, certainly, but definitely not the same.
#Compare, for example, the glyph 'a'.  It's quite different; the top
#edge of the top "loop" of the a on the Adobe font is rounded, while on
#the PD font, it's more of a straight line.  Also compare the 'b'; the
#bottom of the glyph is much straighter on the PD font; the Adobe font
#has a more visible serif.
#
#Still, the quality of these fonts *is* commercial grade.  Maybe
#someone could compare the PD garamond to other commercial Garamonds
#such as ITC Garamond?


Ok... what does one do exactly to install these fonts.  I did the  
buildafmdir and everything looks ok.  However, when I use the  
FontInstaller from Adobe, it creates afm, bitmap and outline directories.   
Is buildafmdir supposed to create these directories also, or is this  
something special about FontInstaller.app?

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From: hd@tif (Hubert Daugherty)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Zxytel 1496E modems
Date: 16 Dec 92 03:54:09 GMT
Organization: Rice University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Michael Branton (mgb@moksha.uucp) wrote:
: Someone seemed to indicate that logging in via modem was a problem w/ NXFax.  
: Can anyone confirm or deny this ?
: ---


I have had trouble logging into the zyxel modem from my USR dual/standard.
But, I read yesterday that zyxel's new rom (5.04) fixes this problem.
So, I'm going to get the new roms and try again.  
BTW, I'm also very happy with the NXFax software. 

Hubert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)
Subject: Re: Adress of SysOp of sonata wanted!
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:54:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.010621.18109@proximus.north.de> gemoe@proximus.north.de  
(Gerhard Moeller) writes:
> I would like to know if the sysop of sonata.cc.purdue.edu is reachable via
> email and if I could have his/her email address.

Use archive-management@cc.purdue.edu.

ab
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rlp@sunset (Dick Phillips)
Subject: Photo CD image viewer
Keywords: Kodak, Photo CD
Reply-To: rlp@lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Distribution: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.graphics,alt.cdrom
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:10:55 GMT

Folks:

I have just posted pCD, a Photo CD viewer, to sonata.cc.purdue.edu.  It's in
pub/next/submissions.  The README says:

				pCD
			 A Photo CD Viewer

			   Hadmut Danisch
			(danisch@ira.uka.de)

			   Dick Phillips
			  (rlp@lanl.gov)


Thanks to Hadmut Danisch of the University of Karlsruhe, who deciphered Kodak's 
Photo CD file format by reverse engineering, I have been able to put together a 
Photo CD viewer for the NeXT.  The app ain't perfect and there still lurks a 
bug or two, but I wanted get it out to beat the Christmas rush.  In addition to
my source code for the user interface, I have included Hadmut's original 
software, hpcdtoppm (v0.3).

Enjoy, Dick Phillips
From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: communication breaker NXFax.1.02
Keywords: Bugs
Date: 19 Dec 92 16:05:02 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
NNTP-Posting-Host: sayshell.umd.edu

>>>Before using NXFax, it is very important that any getty processes
>>>currently in use on the NXFax serial line be turned off.
>>
>>Has everyone some hints (a new getty) for me, that I can login
>>to my customer who uses NXFax  ?

You don't need a new getty, as NXFax acts as the getty for the modem.
It checks to see if the incoming call is a FAX call or a data call.
If its data, then it runs a program (by default, /bin/login, I
believe).  All automagic.

>I haven't had to look into this on the NeXT yet, but on my SysV box I
>have a modem that normally is set up to receive but switches over to
>send, which seems like a similar process.  SysV has init states where
>you can identify whether a tty is on or off in that state.  Switching
>states handles the problem.  Under SysIII I did not have that and I set
>up alternate inittabs which I would copy into the active inittab using a
>shell script.

You don't have to play these games.  The NXFax software determines on
a call-by-call basis if its a data or fax call.

>Similar techniques probably will work on the NeXT as long as you are
>just talking about sending faxes.  If you must also receive, then I
>think you have to establish times when the fax is receiving and times
>when the getty is receiveing.  I am assuming here that a calling fax can
>tell that it has not connected properly and will try again.  I am also
>assuming that you can identify whether the line is use and for waht
>before attempting to switch it.

Again, this isn't a problem on the NeXT with NXFax.

>Query, is all fax soft/firmware like this?  It seems to me the modem
>should be able to identify whether it is receiving a fax or a dial-in
>and do the right thing.  The software on the computer should do the
>same.

As far as I know, the NeXT NXFax software is one of the few that just
identify the call and do the right thing.  Of course, I've not had the
occasion to investigate Sun or other platforms.

louie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki)
Subject: Re: 100 Mips Intel NeXT.
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:59:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.165125.4207@cubetech.com> andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern) writes:
>
>There's way more to a machine than a chip.
>

	Yeah.  There's a label.  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jkight@au-ns.american.edu (Jeff Kight)
Subject: Re: INN on the NeXT
Organization: The American University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 00:38:50 GMT

In article <MICHAEL.92Dec13054413@tar.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl> michael@wft.stack.urc.tue.nl (Michael Brouwer) writes:
>Here's my config.data file for the NeXT.  This let's inn do a clean compile
>on NeXTSTEP 3.0.  I have some fixes for nntpget.c, but you only need this if
>you want to poll for news by nntp. (As opposed to have a newsfeed offerd to
>you.)

I have quite a different configuration file that "seems" to be clean in all
categories... I've been running it with some test feeds since last week, and
will try putting a server into production on Monday.  If you are interested
in the configuration file...send email to jkight@american.edu.

Jeff
-- 
Jeff Kight                                           jkight@american.edu
The American University Computing Center                  (202) 885-2281
Washington DC  20016-8019 USA                         Fax (202) 885-2224
From: The Iguana
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: REQ: Canon in D SND file
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:06:54 GMT
Reply-To: iguana@mik.uky.edu
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

Does anyone out there with a NeXT have a recorded .SND of
Pachelbel's Canon in D? I would really like a SND of it but
my CD player is broken at the moment. Anyone that could record
it and mail it to me would be rewarded (somehow).

Thanks

--
Paul D Thompson ----------------------------------------- "Never  regret"                  
iguana@mik.uky.edu (NeXT and non-NeXTMail accepted)
University of Kentucky Electronic Communications Consultant
Endorsements: NeXT, UNIX, XENIX, MS-DOS, Paul Reed Smith, Gibson, Yamaha, 
Tyrolia, K2, Nordic, Ski-Doo, Polaris, Specialized, Cannondale, Giant.
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: spot!root (Operator)
Subject: Posting
Keywords: usenet, posting, sysadmin
Organization: frogware
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:04:36 GMT

I have a simple problem that's got me stuck:
I can post to usenet as root, but not under any other account.
Why? I assume its due to a permission setting, but I can't find anything.
The system is running 3.0, CNews for NS 2.1, and NewsGrazer 71. 
Help is much appreciated.

ben@frogware.com
NeXT Mail preferred
From: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Charles William Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Swapfile compression
Date: 13 Dec 92 12:46:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.Yf_vomm00WBNE2g3hm
Organization: Senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 10-Dec-92 Re: Swapfile
compression by Paul Lynch@seer.demon.co 
> It's not *extra* diskspace (if I read your intention correctly).   
> swapfile.front is just a view onto swapfile; the only file that occupies  
> real disk space is swapfile.

Correct.
  
> Apart from that, I'd would also like to know what good turning it on will  
> do.  I find it hard to be convinced that compressing (which takes time) a  
> swapfile (which MUST be fast) is a good idea.

The idea is that it's faster for the CPU to compress and then write out
a smaller amount of data than it it to simply write out uncompressed
data.  There's a tradeoff made between CPU usage and disk I/O.

NeXT has set up the defaults so that machines that will do a lot of
swapping (low memory machines), and thus be I/O bound, will use swapfile
compression to shift some of the burden over to the CPU.  Machines with
more memory will not swap as much, and are not as I/O bound, so turning
on the swapfile compression may not help as much, or may actually
decrease overall performance.

-Chuck

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: oschmid@cube.de (Ottmar Schmid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: e-mail adress of Second Glance
Date: 10 Dec 92 10:47:21 GMT
Organization: Cube Informationssysteme, GmbH

We need the e-mail adress (or fax, no phone!) of "Second Glance Company",  
makers of the scanner application "Scantastic".

By the way, does anybody know anybody, who has developed (or is developing) a  
driver for the Agfa Arcus scanner (for NeXT, naturally).

Thanks in advance,

		Ottmar

E-mail to oschmid@cube.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ice@socrates.umd.edu (Fredrik Nyman)
Subject: Re: Good NeXT ps font collection loaded to sonata!
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:02:42 GMT

sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) writes:

>Ok... what does one do exactly to install these fonts.  I did the  
>buildafmdir and everything looks ok.  However, when I use the  
>FontInstaller from Adobe, it creates afm, bitmap and outline directories.   
>Is buildafmdir supposed to create these directories also, or is this  
>something special about FontInstaller.app?
Probably the latter. :)

What you do is to open a terminal window.

From there, cd to ~/Library/Fonts (if you want to keep the fonts
for yourself) and to /LocalLibrary/Fonts if you want to make them
public.  (If the latter, you should have to su first).

Then, for each font file (/somedir/fontfile.tar.Z):
zcat /somedir/fontfile.tar.Z | tar xvf -

This will unpack fontfile.tar.Z, create an appropriately named
subdirectory and place the font and afm files there.

When you've unpacked all fontfiles, run buildafmdir:
buildafmdir

You *may* have to run cacheAFMData too, but it seems that buildafmdir
does (or is supposed to do) it automatically.

Ta da.  The new fonts should be available from any font panel
except Terminal's.
From: mgrmdk@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Is the wait over? Upcoming NeXT CD-ROM drive
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:15:40 GMT
Reply-To: mgrmdk@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
NNTP-Posting-Host: manager.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <1992Dec15.025114.1834@parsec.mixcom.com>  
alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart) writes:
> No the wait is not over. Mine was supposed to ship the week of December  
7th. I  
> called every other day to see if it had shipped. Today (12/14/92) it had  
not  
> shipped yet................................

I ordered mine back in July, and (supposedly) it's going to be shipped the  
21st.  I'll believe it when I have it in my hands, though.

Michael D. Kohlmeier
mgrmdk@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: nwc@blackbox.cc.columbia.edu (Nick Christopher)
Subject: Re: Digital Librarian: how to nroff automatically?
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:19:11 GMT

Get the lattest BULLETin from the Gotham Users of NeXT for an article
on getting DL3.0 to do the things DL2.x did. By the way, this is a
plug since I wrote the article :-)

\n

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Subject: Re: 100 Mips Intel NeXT.
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 11:35:39 GMT

In article <mike.724093217@starburst.umd.edu> mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) writes:
>If anything I think (my own $0.02(US)) that NeXT would only gain respect
>for using HP-PA.  It's a very respected company with a very much respected
>RISC architecture that is [not] closed.  Common misconception.

PA is really killer, but Pentium already has better name recognition
than PA, and it's not even out yet!  Sure, unix weenies like you and I
know about PA, but most of the people NeXT is trying to sell computers
to don't.

>Most anyone can port to the backward compatible Intel 808x processor family...
>(UNIX requiring an 80386 or better).  Not alot of pride in it.  Only thing
>NeXT gains in going completely to the Intel family is reduced development
>costs by not needing to support more than one architecture.  

If NeXT produced a Pentium based machine, it would be a wildly
different beast from, say, a Dell Pentium PC.  The Sun 386i, most of
the Sequents (I think), and Scitex boxes all run on 80386s or 80486s,
but none of them will run either DOS or eachother's operating systems.
Same deal with old HP-Apollo's, Amiga's, Macintoshes, and NeXT's.
There's a lot more to a machine than it's processor.  So NeXT would
still have to support another architecture (in the form of different
device-drivers and other machine dependant code).


Steve Jobs doesn't think people should care about what processor is in
the box.  He's absolutely right, and I agree with him.  So he doesn't
think that, technological issues aside, NeXT needs use a processor for
marketing reasons.  Unfortunately, on the planet the rest of us live
on, people really do seem to care about what processor is in the box,
even if it's for all the wrong reasons...

perhaps that's one of the reasons why NS486 is going to be a smashing
sucess compared to NeXTstations.


andrew
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Good NeXT ps font collection loaded to sonata!
Reply-To: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:23:48 GMT

William Lee Nussbaum writes

> Irving Wolfe writes:

>> Various people have expressed skepticism about the public status
>> of these fonts because of their high quality.  I don't know the
>> actualp status and have not downloaded the fonts, but that reason
>> -- quality -- is a silly one to arouse such concern.

> It's moreso the fact that there is no creator attribution in the
> font file -- just a BBS name and number -- and that the AFM files
> have Adobe copyright messages in them.

Quality *can* be an indicator, because if someone took the font
program into an editing program and simply tweaked some of the
characters, then the resulting font program is still a "derivative
work" and is still covered by the copyright.

Additionally, ANY FONT THAT CONTAINING A COPYRIGHT NOTICE IS A
COPYRIGHTED FONT, and MAY NOT BE COPIED, unless specific permission
is given in some comment in the font.  It DOESN'T MATTER if it was
Adobe or freelance font artist who created them.


Now, as far as the fonts on sonata are concerned - they're OK.
One look and I could tell exactly how they were created (can you
say "pathforall", I knew you could).  And while that's *slimy*,
it's not illegal, and major parts of what make an Adobe Type 1 font
program look good are lost when that is done.  And, unfortunately,
due to the shortsightedness of our government, the digital data
representing the raw outline of an artistic creation is not
copyrightable.  (That is, because of how "pathforall" works, it's
indemnifying).

Personally, I can't see how anybody thought these things were high
quality - they have *no hinting*!  And really, when you look at
them closely, they look like garbage on the screen.  They'll print
out ok at 400dpi, but not nearly as good as a fully hinted font
will.

--
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1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900        do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900             the opinions of my employer.
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From: gobbi@gdss.commerce.ubc.ca (Michael Gobbi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Filtering with NewsGrazer
Date: 15 Dec 1992 22:17:32 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: gdss.commerce.ubc.ca

I would like to set up NewsGrazer (version 71.9) to ignore ALL followup  
postings.  It would appear to me that the best way to do this would be to  
filter anything beginning with "Re:".  Unfortunately, NG seems to remove  
any leading "Re:" before checking against the filter.  Has anybody found a  
way around this problem?

--
     __    In quest of knowledge...
    /..\      <gobbi@gdss.commerce.ubc.ca>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Newsgrazer  -- how to "unhang it" after bad nntp server name ?
Organization: P & L Systems
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:01:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.234119.7089@scott.skidmore.edu>  
root@dreams.skidmore.edu (Operator) writes:
> One of my students has the newsgrazer hung up.  He had used the wrong  
nntp  
> server name and now each time he launches newsgrazer, it hangs up and  
> eventually kills itself.  Is there some default file somewhere we can  
> erase and restart giving the proper server name ?

change the NewsGrazer NewsGrazerUseNNTP value from 0 to 1

Paul
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Tel: (0494)671501                      paull@cix.compulink.co.uk
Fax: (0494)680228                       76711.451@compuserve.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: krtamura@athena.mit.edu (Kohichi R Tamura)
Subject:    Can someone help me with this bootup problem?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:45:27 GMT

I just received my 3.0 upgrade.  It was booting fine off the external hard
drive, but I took it back in because the place that did it for me didn't 
include NeXTCD and everything in it.  After he put that on, I took it home 
and tried to boot up and now it seems to hang at the point "Checking System 
Files".  It just sits there and I can't see any exchange (flashing light) 
with the external drive. I thought maybe it was just going to take a while 
but it stayed that way for over 10 minutes.

Does anyone know what happened?  Did something get overwritten on the hard
drive?  It still has 35MB left free, so I sort of doubt it.  Did the guy at
the store have to do something bizzare to get access to my drive?  The SCSI
address is set to 0 now so that's not the problem .......  I would go talk
to the store about it, but this is the 5th time I've been back there this
week to try to get this miserable computer working.

BTW, I have had the worst service imaginable in my purchase of a NeXT
Turbo Station.  It's almost to the point now that I wish I had gone with
a less powerful Mac or PC because all of the hassle I've had to go through
to get the most basic things set up ..... has anyone else out there 
experienced this sort of thing?  

Thank you for any help/comments.

K. Tamura
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: WhosOnFirst 2.0 and nova.cc.purdue.edu
Date: 16 Dec 92 12:25:10 GMT
Reply-To: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305)
Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA

In article <ByyGpn.9JC@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> schock@flip.cpsc.ucalgary.ca writes:
>There was a recent posting on comp.sys.next.announce about the availability of  
>WhosOnFirst 2.0.  It is available as nova.cc.purdue, but it's location has  
>since changed.
>
>On nova.cc.purdue.edu it is located at:
>
>	/pub/next/3.0/src/WhosOnFirst2.0.tar.Z
>
Another point.  You need the text to speech package to use that
facility.  I was hoping you didn't because I thought maybe WhosOnFirst
would give me some idea of whether the package was worth buying or not.
I guess you can't do that without giving away the store.  Oh, well.
-- 
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