From: jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff)
Subject: Re: UFO crash in South Africa
Organization: BeHereNow
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:34:59 GMT

In article <g92n3258.62.721137176@giraffe.ru.ac.za> g92n3258@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR RL NICOL) writes:
>Yesterday I was watching a documentary on UFO's and they mentioned a UFO 
>crash in S.A.  Now, considering that that is where I live, I found it rather 
>unusual.  There had been nothing in the papers, nothing mentioned by 
>ufologists in S.A., and nothing on television regarding even a hint about 
>something crashing, let alone a UFO.
>
>Aaaah!  Cover up, they cry.  Considering I got the information first from 
>UFO Universe Magazine, which I lost all respect for when they started 
>talking about BigFoot steering one of those things (surely his feet get in 

Read what JWinston has to say about ET bigfoot. He knows more about them
than anyone I have ever met. The lore, the theories, that's really all anyone
knows, and he knows them all...ET bigfoot is as good a theory as anyone has
ever come up with.


>the way) and major clashes between the US forces and a bunch of aliens who 
>have taken over a part of an army base (ala "War of the Worlds").  I 
>have further reasons to doubt it when the footage they showed on the same 
>programme (called Miracles of the Unknown - UFOS) included stuff of Billy 
>Meier's, which have been discovered to be fake, and UFOs whose drivers must 

Billy Meier's pictures have never been proven to be fake. In fact, NASA's 
Bob Oechler anylised them and said exactly the opposite. The main critic I
have seen of BM's photos is J. Vallee, and I don't think he ever stated much
more than the opinion that they are fake. I do not respect JV a great deal,
I feel that he may have intelligence ties similar to Klass, and that 
he likes to send people down dead-end paths quite a bit. Read Cooper, Stevens,
Light Years (author?) and Lindemann before you make up your mind about
BM's veracity...

>obviously be drunk or have no idea where they want to go.  Those things were 
>spinning and and falling.  Hell, they're worse than taxi drivers.  And what'
>s more, they looked so FAKE.

Are you a degreed photo analyst? Other's who have looked at them do not agree
they are fakes.

>
>But back to the topic, if anyone has any more info on the subject, I would 
>appreciate hearing it.  So far all I've heard is second hand reports about a 
>crash which to me is so unlikely it is beyond the boundaries of belief.

Tony Dodd did quite a bit of research into this subject, as have others.

>
>Lastly, I have yet to find a UFO magazine or documentary that treats the 
>topic with any degree of credibility.  Everyone I have seen is so hokey or 
>filled with ridiculous garbage that it is no wonder that the subject of UFOs 
>does not get serious attention from a large sector of the scientific 
>community.  And if you don't believe that people are making up some of this 
>trash, then you can always fall back to the "Government disinformation", and 
>if this is the reason behind it, then they've done a damn good job.  The 
>subject has become so discredited I think MJ12 is quite happy, sitting back 
>and smiling at their little UFO tucked under a tarpaulin at Wright-
>Pattersons.  For if there is any reason why there are so many reports as to 
>UFOs crashing in some isolated area (why always isolated; they have good 
>aim) it must be because it is disinformation.  One UFO crash could be 
>believed, but they probably figured that if they spread so much disinfo 
>around regarding hundreds of other crashes, investigators would overlook the 
>one that occurred and the man/woman in the street would think its as hokey 
>as seers who all say the world is going to end, and give different dates for 
>its destruction.
>
>All the best,
>Ryan.


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