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From: shmdgljd@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jay Schmidgall)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Finding the current cursor
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:02:53 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: IBM Rochester, MN

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:12:26 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul23.141226.19607@rchland.ibm.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Jul22.161928.19371@andersen.co.uk>, you write:
|> During an application I need to change the cursor, I do this with 
|> XdefineCursor.  I would like to be able to store the original cursor so
|> that I can change it back.  I have tried to retrieve the cursor with 
|> XtSetArg and XtGetValues with a resource of XmRCursor but this does not
|> work.

I don't think you need to store the original cursor at all; instead, store
your new cursor.  Then, when you're done, undefine the new cursor.  The
original cursor is automagically restored.

-- 
: jay          jay@vnet.ibm.com    My opinions and ideas, not my employer's.
: shmdgljd@rchland.vnet.ibm.com    (c) Copyright 1992.  All rights reserved.
From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Fast drawing
Date: 26 Jul 92 01:29:50 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines

Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 10:58:28 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul25.105828.8191@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <BAGCHI.92Jul17222424@dip.eecs.um>, bagchi@eecs.umich.edu writes:

> I need to fill in each pixels in my Window with an arbitrary color.
> I've been doing several thousand XDrawPoint requests, which is
> predictably slow.

> Is there a faster way to do this?

Yes.  This is what the XImage structure and its associated functions
are for.  Unfortunately the image support is somewhat broken, mostly in
the sense of there being no documented way to do some things, so
writing code to work with images all too often amounts to UTSLing,
where TS is either for Xlib or for other programs which use images.

					der Mouse

			    mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
From: parasa@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu (Rao V Parasa)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Subscription request
Date: 25 Jul 92 03:32:33 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Message-Id: <9207242359.AA00409@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu>
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 19:58:59 EDT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]


Please send me the details of subscription information for mailing list
on X windows.

--
Parasa V. Rao
parasa@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu
From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Kills from Window Manager
Date: 25 Jul 92 09:57:52 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines

Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 18:28:35 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul24.182835.29941@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Jul19.104259.6128@pictel.com>, oj@pictel.com (Oliver Jones) writes:
> In article <1992Jul18.132220.18254@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse) writes:
>> If an application would simply exit when asked to delete its window,
>> and it has no requirement for user interaction during its cleanup
>> operations, if any, I see no reason why it should bother
>> participating in WM_DELETE_WINDOW. ...  Do you see any such reason?

> Yes.  If the wm uses XKillClient to get rid of the application, then
> the application's route to oblivion is through its XIO error handler.
> [...this produces a possibly disturbing error message...]

So install an I/O error handler that exits quietly instead of printing
a noisy complaint first.  (Or implement WM_DELETE_WINDOW, but the
former requires significantly less code, at least for my programs.)

> If you're using Athena, it takes less than a dozen lines of code to
> get this right.

Even in bare Xlib, the I/O error handler solution takes only two lines,
if you're willing to write the I/O error handler as one line:

myIOerror(d) Display *d; { exit(0); }

					der Mouse

			    mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
From: sxd@hela.iti.org (Shantanu Dhar)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Need idraw sparc executable...
Date: 31 Jul 92 07:57:08 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Industrial Technology Institute

Date: 30 Jul 92 20:47:30 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul30.204730.15695@iti.org>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I need idraw EXECUTABLE (not source) for my Sun Sparcstation
running R4.  If there is a well known site I can ftp off,
please let me know.  I shall be grateful.

If some kind soul is willing to tar, compress, uuencode, and email
it to me (whole or chunks), I shall be even more grateful.

Also, if there is essential documentation to accompany, please don't
forget to include it.

thanks in advance,
(more thanks to follow)
-- Shantanu


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|Shantanu Dhar                     sxd@iti.org                     |
|voice:    +1 313 769 4381         fax:  +1 313 769 4064           |
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From: converse@expo.lcs.mit.edu (Donna Converse)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: cursor in spring-loaded menu
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:30:36 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: X Consortium, MIT Laboratory for Computer Science

Message-Id: <9207232002.AA13823@excess.lcs.mit.edu>
             <14608@umd5.umd.edu> 
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 16:02:46 EDT


> I have a menu widget which I have written intended to be used as a
> spring-loaded popup when a button is pressed (by means of an XtMenuPopup() in
> the translations).  While the menu is popped up I would like the cursor to have
> some special shape.  It seems to be hard to do this.

In the Athena widget set, the SimpleMenu widget has a cursor resource.
In this widget's realize method, the cursor for the menu is set as a
window attribute, and this works fine.

> Setting the default cursor on the widget does not do anything.

I don't understand.

> Nor does setting the cursor with
> XDefineCursor() in the popup callback.

This wouldn't work because the grab is already active and the pointer for
the menu widget's window is already defined.

> The cursor always seems to be that of
> the widget that issued the grab.  The XtMenuPopup action routine puts out a
> passive pointer grab (XGrabButton).  XGrabButton specifies a cursor that is
> used during the grab.  The code for this in the Intrinsics is hard for me to
> follow but it is not obvious to me how to have cursor have any other value but
> None.

If you call XtGrabButton directly, you can specify the cursor ID through
this interface.  But this is a lot of extra work.

>  Perhaps I have to write my own action routine rather than XtMenuPopup()?

Too much work.

> Is there something I am missing? some way to get the grab to be issued with a
> particular cursor? I have solved it with a call to XChangeActivePointerGrab()
> in the popup callback which seems to be what the doctor ordered except that it
> wants a new event mask to be specified. I would want to use the same event mask
> as used in the original XGrabButton call but I have no easy way of knowing
> that.  I have used a mask for all possible pointer events.

Using XChangeActivePointerGrab is okay; the actual changing of the cursor
might be visible on slow connections, which is suboptimal.  The event mask
should be ButtonPressMask | ButtonReleaseMask which is the same as the event
mask of the original grab.  

It seems to me that the menu widget should have a cursor resource, and could 
use the String to Cursor converter supplied by the Intrinsics, so that the
cursor can be described by the application programmer and/or the user.  Then
when the widget's window is created, the supplied cursor is used for that
window.  You should be able to do this and still use XtMenuPopup; you ought
not have to supply and register the grab action yourself.


Donna Converse
MIT X Consortium
From: cluther@morticia.cnns.unt.edu (Clay Luther)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Request for X source. Wince.
Date: 30 Jul 92 06:21:48 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of North Texas

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:01:52 GMT
Message-Id: <cluther.712440112@morticia>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I am posting from a friend's acct.

If possible, I would like to acquire the source code for the MIT X
distribution, if that is legal. I'm pretty sure that this information is
contained in a FAQ somewhere, but if the FAQ is this group's, it has
already expired at my site. I need to examine the Internal files in order
to find a way to kludge, and HP's X distribution does not contain any
of the source for the Internal files.

(Side note: is there a place where I can find FAQs for all newsgroups, 
regardless of time? I don't like posting questions that are probably
answered in FAQs.)

Chris Pearce
cpearce@nemesis.acs.unt.edu

.... posting from:
-- 
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Internet: cluther@morticia.cnns.unt.edu                    Applelink: PDSDEV
Macintosh/Unix Programmer for Vortech Data, Inc.
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From: ron@mlfarm.com (Ronald Florence)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X-games
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:35:28 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Maple Lawn Farm, Stonington, CT

Date: 23 Jul 92 00:31:44 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul23.003144.9667@mlfarm.com>
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.open-look,comp.sys.sun.apps

My original article requesting suggestions of games directed
follow-ups to `poster'.  The net has been so generous with
recommendations that I'll violate protocol by posting a follow-up.

My son prepared a summary of the most common recommendations, many of
which we will certainly pursue:

   Game		Description
   ----		-----------
   xpilot	multi-player game
   xataxx	?
   xasteroids	arcade game, shooting asteroids
   JetPack	arcade game, flying with a jet pack
   xconq	conquer the world by building armies
   golddig	arcade game
   xtetris	tetris in an X-window
   xhextetris	3-d tetris
   xhearts	networked card game
   xblackjack	
   xmris	Mr. Do in an X-window
   xmahjongg	
   xchomp	pac-man
   xtank	networked tank battles
   mazewar	networked shoot-em-up in a maze
   ishido	?
   cbzone	Battle Zone in an X-window
   xbzone
   xbd		A boulder dash puzzle game
   xmille	Mille Bournes in an X-window
   xchess	chess in an X-window, with gnuchess or an opponent

Source for most of these is available from ftp.uu.net.  I'm sure there
are other excellent games; these should keep us busy for a while.
Again, our thanks to those who wrote with recommendations and
suggestions, and our apologies that there were too many replies to
acknowledge individually.
-- 

				Ronald Florence
				ron@mlfarm.com
From: ware@cis.ohio-state.edu (Peter Ware)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X11R5 public fix #14 now available
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:42:50 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 18:42:26 -0400
Message-Id: <9207272242.AA06784@organ.cis.ohio-state.edu>

Sorry for being nosy, but could you explain a little more  what the 
	Xt: geometry requests with SetValues 
patch to SetValues.c(XtSetValues) changes/fixes?  I'm always nervous
about how my geometry managers work.

Is the
	    if (geoReq.request_mode !=
		(CWX | CWY | CWWidth | CWHeight | CWBorderWidth)) {

just an optimization incase all the flags are set?

Thanks,
--pete
From: inb@creare.com (Ian Brown)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: fork()ing in an event loop??
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:11:48 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Creare Inc., Hanover, NH

Date: 22 Jul 92 18:07:55 GMT
Message-Id: <13398@creare.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Jul14.202317.10570@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse) writes:
:>> I have a grapher that gets input from stdin.  Once it has been told
:>> to plot, it opens an window, and plots.  Then of course I go into an
:>> event loop that processes expose events.  The problem is, I want to
:>> process these events at the same time (and in the background) as I
:>> get more lines of input from stdin.  I think what I need to do is
:>> fork(), but I don't really know how to do it.
:>
:>If you're using Xt, then you just use XtAppAddInput to add file
:>descriptor 0 as a source of input, then have its callback read and
:>process the lines.

Note that this doesn't always work very well.  On some systems, your event
handler will be called constantly, regardless of whether or not any new data is
ready to be read on stdin.  If the code needs to be portable, an alternative
would be to use a timer (XtAppAddTimeout) and perform non-blocking I/O to
actually read the file (you could do the non-blocking I/O in the handler for
XtAppAddInput, but you will effectively have a busy loop.)

I found out what a problem this can be when trying to port a routine that used
XtAppAddInput from an HP-UX machine (where it worked correctly) to a Sun
machine (where it didn't).  Since my code was expecting to find something to
read, it would lock up in the event handler when nothing was available.

In my case, I was using pipes for the I/O.  If you aren't using pipes, this may
or may not apply (I don't remember offhand whether this is documented in the X
toolkit books or under select() and don't feel like searching unless someone
really wants me to.)





-- 
Ian Brown
inb@creare.com
From: eric@eedsp.gatech.edu (Eric Hyche)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Binary File Viewer for X?
Date: 21 Jul 92 10:46:33 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Georgia Inst. of Tech - DSP - Atlanta, Ga

Date: 20 Jul 92 19:39:09 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul20.193909.7103@ee.gatech.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Does anyone know of a binary file viewer program for X?
It would also be great if I could manipulate hex values
in the binary file also.

Thanks!

Eric Hyche
eric@eedsp.gatech.edu

-- 
Eric Hyche
Georgia Tech, School of Electrical Engineering, Atlanta, GA  30332
INTERNET: eric@eedsp.gatech.edu
From: darby@andersen.co.uk (Dave Darby)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X11r3 clients with X11r4 server.
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:15:33 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Andersen Consulting (UK Practice)

Date: 29 Jul 92 07:55:43 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul29.075543.29344@andersen.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I need to run an X11 release 3 client with an X11r4 server and
wonder if anyone knows of any potential problems that this may
cause ?

The client was compiled under AIX 3.1 with motif 1.0 and X11r3, the 
X11, Xt and Xm libraries were statically linked.

The client will run under AIX 3.2 with motif 1.1 and X11r4 although these
versions will not be picked up by the client as the X libraries were 
bound statically.  The server will however be X11r4.

Thanks in advance for any help or advice.

Dave Darby.
.
:
From: bdr@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (brian.d.reed)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: How to suspend a background program
Date: 21 Jul 92 07:53:49 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: AT&T

Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 21:59:27 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul20.215927.4681@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I'm running on a VAXstation 4000, VMS 5.5, Motif 1.0A.
Apparently there is a bug (or should I say incompatibility) from
when DEC made X run on the new 4000.  

I have a background program running (background meaning in the 
root window).  OK--it's a bunch of fishies.  Whenever I move or
resize a window, the root window gets scrambled up with my other
windows.  Being X-illiterate, is there a way I could add something
to the (C) program to skip the drawing while any window is being
moved/resized?   From what little I know, I would guess to look
for some event happening, but not knowing X, I don't know what 
event or how to cover an event in any window.

Thanks for any/all/some/no help.

 Brian D. Reed    bdr@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
From: pd@x.co.uk (Paul Davey)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Keymap Translations on Motif-RS/6000
Date: 31 Jul 92 05:10:53 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: IXI Ltd.

Date: 30 Jul 92 14:00:29 GMT
Message-Id: <PD.92Jul30140029@herts.x.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

>>>>> On 29 Jul 92 16:52:42 GMT, pwickman@cerebus.cc.edu (Paul J. Wickman) said:

-> This almost works, except the Shifted keys never get remapped.  A Shifted F1 
-> in this case will generate the same code as the new F1.

-> What am I doing wrong?

You should list the more specific translations first.

If you move the Shift<Key>F1 definition before the <Key>F1 definition
things will work fine.

--
 Regards,			  pd@x.co.uk           IXI Ltd.
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				  ...!uunet!ixi!pd     Cambridge,  U.K.
 "These _are_ interesting times"  +44 223 462 131      CB1  1OJ
From: kk@cs.tu-berlin.de (Kolja Kaehler)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Xaw & colormaps
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:56:34 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany

Date: 27 Jul 92 23:01:01 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul27.230101.11986@cs.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Can anyone *please* tell me,  why Xt always ignores my attempts to set the
XtNcolormap resource for a widget ? The colormap itself works,
I can use it with 'normal' windows, but with widgets (I used athena labels)...
I tried setting the colormap resource before and after creating/managing the
widget, I even set it in the parent widget (hoped the child would inherit it);
No Luck. Is there something special about it ?

Any hints appreciated!

	Kolja
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Kolja Kaehler                                            <kk@cs.tu-berlin.de>
From: tom@uts.cc.wayne.edu (Thomas Richard Stevenson)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Problems with xarchie (HELP)
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:59:04 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Wayne State Univ.

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:33:52 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul27.213352.20158@uts.cc.wayne.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I've just installed xarchie on a UTS 2.1.3 unix system. I had to play
a few games to get it to compile (not to bad at all), but when I run
it, I sometimes get an error in dirsend.c in routine readProc. The 
call to nlsindex sometimes returns a null value when no_pkts is not 0. 
Thus the if test

if((nd_pkts == 0) && (no_pkts == 0) && (seqtxt == NULL)) goto all_done;

does not result in a branch to all_done (seqtxt is NULL, but no_pkts is
not 0). Thus, when it does the 

tmp = sscanf(seqtxt,"%d OF %d", &(next->seq), &nd_pkts);

I get an system error from sscanf because the first parameter is NULL.
Has anyone else seen this error? What would cause seqtxt to be NULL
when nd_pkts is not 0? And what should happen if it does?
From: trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X386 config help needed
Date: 27 Jul 92 07:22:41 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

Date: 27 Jul 92 03:41:29 GMT
Message-Id: <trussell.712208489@cwis>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.os.linux


    Would anyone out there happen to have a 1024x768 interlaced Xconfig
setup for a CompuAdd Hi-Rez card (1M memory) with a CompuAdd VGA monitor
(catalog #51091)?  I had the proper setup under SCO, but unfortunately
it got nuked awhile ago and I can't get things setup again under Linux.

    Thanks in advance.

--
    Tim Russell                 Omaha, NE              trussell@unomaha.edu
"Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child."
					-- Vice President Dan Quayle
From: graeme@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Graeme Gill)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: benchmark for xserver
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:22:39 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia

Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 03:28:51 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul22.032851.10566@labtam.labtam.oz.au>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <raney.711687751@teal>, raney@teal.csn.org (Scott Raney) writes:
> roell@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Thomas Roell) writes:
 
> >Again there is a hair. xengine is one of the most rediculus benchmarks
 
> >	1) xengine is only a CPU benchmark, since almost ewverybody
 
> >	2) The only graphical operation that really involves the
 
> The conclusion? xengine *is* a useful benchmark, IMHO.

> >Give these facts I would say that xengine as a benchmark is unusable.


	And don't forget that Xengine is a trade mark of Labtam Australia,
and refers to Labtams 80960 based X server hardware and software. :-)

	Graeme Gill
	Labtam Australia

Oh, how fast does an Xengine run xengine ? - the CT300 terminal running an
E92 server runs about 284 rpm.
From: elkins@eplrx7.es.dupont.com (Rob Elkins)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: GIF reader for X
Date: 24 Jul 92 05:49:38 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: DuPont Central Research & Development

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:25:10 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul23.172510.3736@eplrx7.es.duPont.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Can anyone tell me where I can find a GIF reader for X-windows.
Specifically for vax/vms?

Thanks!!`

-- 
Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not an <insert occupation here>
Rob Elkins		E.I. Dupont de Nemours & Co, Inc
Email:			elkinsra@wmvx.dnet.dupont.com
Voice:			302-366-3125
From: draz@tochna.technion.ac.il (David Raz)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X11R5 and Motif Compatibility
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:58:32 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Technion, Israel Inst. of Technology

Date: 29 Jul 92 09:05:09 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul29.090509.29357@discus.technion.ac.il>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1400@seqp4.sequoia.com>, mikeq@seqp4.sequoia.com (Michael Quicquaro) writes:
|> Sorry if this has been discussed already on this newsgroup,
|> but I would like to know if X11R5 is compatible with Motif 1.1 ?
|> 
|> If it is not compatible programming-wise, can I use Motif 1.1 as
|> a window manager while using X11R5 windows ?
|> 
|> Thanks for the help.

RTFF (Read The F-word FAQ)

As Motif 1.1 has it's own Xt library it is not "compatible  
programming-wise", as you must use it's Xt functions. However,
I use X11R5 other libraries with it and it compiles fine.
(I sometimes need the X11 R4 library too, but only on the DECs 
where my Xm library is built that way.)

However, as my vague memory tells me, there is a Motif version
that supports X11R5. Just read the FAQ.

About the second question , I don't see why not. The window manager
does'nt know how the program was built.....
-- 
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From: dhliu@csie.nctu.edu.tw (Der-Hua Liu)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Twm
Date: 21 Jul 92 10:10:40 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: National Chiao Tung University

Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 03:31:35 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul21.033135.18384@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

xterm -sb -sl 1000 -C -T Xconsole
	            ^---- as console
can be used as a console with a scroll bar and input .


Note this doesn't work on IBM Aix, MIPS RISC/OS, .. (Old System V)