HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: Why no floppy port on the Falcon??
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:34:37 GMT

In article 18r8tgINN103@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys) writes:
>
>I'm not sure how Spectre GCR works.  Why is the external drive needed?
>Can't it use the internal drive?

To use the GCR, a drive cable runs from the Spectre cartridge to the external drive
port on your ST.  If you have an external drive as well, it plugs into the GCR cart.
These are necessary so the Atari drives can read/write the Mac 800K format.  Using
the 1.4Mb drives, such additional h/w would not be necessary, only a s/w patch.

>Also, can't Dave write some kind of fix for it?

I'm sure he could, but is it worth his while?

>I wonder if Atari contacted Dave Small about the external drive port...

I doubt it.  Why would they?

>They seem to be putting him out of business... First is was the
>Mega ST expansion port, then there is the Falcon with the increased
>speed that a lot of people will no doubt purchase instead of his SST,
>and now there is no floppy port for his Spectre...

Gadgets by Small is not about to go out of business, unless and until Dave Small
decides to do something else.  The Spectre GCR, MegaTalk, and SST all still seem
to be selling very well, or at least as fast as they can make them!


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From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Should Z*Net be created
Date: 14 Sep 92 07:17:13 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway in the Auckland, New Zealand

dud@hardy.u.washington.edu (Daniel Aylward) writes:

> kovarski@zooid.guild.org (Mark Kovarski) writes:
> 
> 
> >No, I think it is a really bad idea to create Z*Net groups since you
> >will see 1 message per month and besides Z*Net MAG (ST) is a "cheerleading"
> >magazine for the ST and does not represent the reality. Its ST Editor was/is
> >a person that likes to control other peoples views hence he has never heard
> >of freedom of free speech. He is constantly bashing ST*Report and other
> >publications that do not agree with him or any other Atari representatives.
> >I think it is a total waste of time to create such newsgroups.
> 
> >Sincerely,
> >Mark K.
> >E-Mail: kovarski@zooid.guild.org
> 
> Good, that settles it.  It's unanimous.  No one is opposed to the creation
> of alt.Z*net. 
> 
> Dan Aylward
> dud@u.washington.edu
> 
> p.s. Mark, remember the "^N" concept?  (in this case "U"nsubscribe?)
> 

 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: PAULA 2.0 for STe/TT, not ST
From: Steven.Wells@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 01:05:45 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Sep12.195635.29711@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> muocj@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Olivo Contreras) writes:
> I couldn't get CDPlayer to work either.  I thought I had a bad file or a
> bad computer, but it looks like I'm not alone.
> 

CD-Player must be run from the AUTO-Folder of an STE or higher
(Mega-STE, TT, Falcon.)

It will only work on machines with DMA-Sound output.  (And Blitter &
Hardware scrolling)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: rosenkra@convex.com (William Rosenkranz)
Subject: whatis 2.0.1 posted to atari.archive
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 16:41:57 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.



i have just uploaded whatis v2.0.1 to atari.archive. the file is whatis201.zoo
and is in ~ftp/atari/new.

this archive contains whatis, whatisin, and apropos which are parts of some
unix (BSD, i think) manual systems. these are, however, my own versions.
i use a different format for the whatis  database (i use a separate file
for each manual section and include more info than just name, section,
and description (for instance entries from "SEE ALSO" sections are used
as cross references, and you can also include keywords for apropos).

here is what these programs do:

	whatis		given a name of a command, system call, library
			routine, etc, whatis prints a one line description
	whatisin	prints a table of contents of the manual, or with
			an argument representing a section ([0-9lno]), lists
			a one line entry of all manpages for that section
	apropos		given a keyword, apropos prints a list of all
			manpages that might be appropriate to look at (eg
			"apropos file" will list every manpage that has
			"file" in its name, description, or keyword list)

also include is a mkwhatis(8) program to help make the databases. also
included are some example whatis databases.

enjoy...

-bill
rosenkra@convex.com

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From: kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: FTP Sites?
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:29:35 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Sep9.085218.2250@wkuvx1.bitnet> easteee@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>Does the ST have any good, fast IBM emulators written for it yet?
>I've heard of a few in the past, but I've also heard they run at
>snail's pace.  Do they run a little faster with more memory?  Are
>any programs like this available at the ST FTP site(s)?  Where ARE
>some ST FTP sites, anyway??   

The only software IBM emulator is PC Ditto I, which is a commercial
product.  If any PD/shareware IBM emulators exist, I am not aware
of them.  PC Ditto I ran at about the equivalent of a 1MHz XT and
the only thing that will speed it up is an accelerator board for 
your ST.

The main Atari FTP site (in the U.S.) is atari.archive.umich.edu 
although there are a few other U.S. ones.  Most Atari FTP sites are
in Europe, though.
From: al885@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gerard Pinzone)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Where to find floppy drive cable?
Date: 6 Sep 1992 01:50:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: al885@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gerard Pinzone)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I can't seem to find a place that sells an Atari floppy cable.  I'm looking
to build an external drive out of a TEAC.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: Steven.Wells@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: FZT_D220.LZH at atari/new on a.a
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:17:16 GMT

It 1) says in the DOC files that v3.0 will be released at some
computer show (on September 18th from memory).
2) I have contacted Aaron Hopkins (the author) and he has confirmed
that it should be ready for release sometime this month!
I don't post 'rumors' as there are enough circulating as it is!
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From: harold@alice.hobby.nl (Harold van Aalderen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: Hobbynet Usernode
Subject: FORSALE: Turbo C 2.0
Reply-To: harold@alice.hobby.nl
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 21:13:46 MEZT

FORSALE: Turbo C 2.0 complete with manuals

Any reasonable offer 


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Digital Stereo 10-Band Graphic Equalizer of the Falcon030 (Using
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:46:48 GMT

moon!cyberden!system@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>
>> This is to all people who would like to connect a Digital Stereo 10-Band
>> Graphic Equalizer. Document number APR2/D by Motorola deals with this matter
>> and can be obtained free of charge from Motorola. You can either call them an
>> ask for the document number or you can write to:
>
>I don't understand, with the correct software, you should be able to have a
>20 band equalizer (digital) via software with the DSP. Just check out the
>DSP page or equalizer page in MAC's Sound Tools... it does it with no hardware.
><X>orcist
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>   |       /         |\
>   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N       [ moon!cyberden!system@well.sf.ca.us ]

Sorry, my mistake. I was referring to a hardware Equalizer. You know, the one
with LED's and such... This is no a software based one where you can see the
bars on the screen but rather a hardware one like stereo systems have. Hope
this clears it up.

Mark K.
From: ue@nathan.do.open.de (Udo Erdelhoff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: cyberspace
Subject: Re: Icon-Editor
Reply-To: ue@nathan.do.open.de
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 11:03:56 +0200

In <4271@wet.UUCP>, Ed Krimen writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.212904.19974@actrix.gen.nz> Steven.Wells@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>>Does anyone know where I can get an application for editing the
>>DESKICON.RSC files (the icons) in TOS 2.?+

>There's also the Icon Juggler (I think that's the name) from Codehead
>Technologies.  They ship it free when you buy the ROMs or the TEC from them,
>but everyone else can buy it from them for $10.  I believe the $10 also 
>includes Codehead docs for NewDesk.  The Icon Juggler is not an icon editor
>though; it edits the DESKICON.RSC.  I'm pretty sure you can only move icons
>around, assign them to different files, and import icons from other files.

Icon Juggler only has the options to set and delete pixel and move the icon;
a real icon editor offers some more features. If you want to see a good icon
editor, look for Iconedi 3.07 by Stefan Muench (I think that's the program Steve
wanted). Features: Icon and Image editor, maximum size 640x400 dots, all
neccessary elements like lines, squares, rectangles, circles, ellipses, circle
& ellipse parts, automatic import of icons/images from resource files, export
of icons as a resource file, etc., etc...

In the current version, Iconedi can't edited any resource file directly, you 
have to import the icons, modify them, save the edited icons as a resource
and merge them into the resource file using a normal resource construction set.
This will change in the next version.
/s/ Udo
PS: contact address: Stefan_Muench@un.maus.de
PPS: Iconedi is shareware (~ $15), docs are in german (that will change, too)



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: bgilbert@cs.washington.edu (Benjamin Gilbert)
Subject: Hey, I saw an Atari on TV!
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 03:43:26 GMT


Just thought I'd drop a little happy note for everyone to read ...


The other day (well ok, I guess it was a couple weeks ago) I was watching 
the national news and they were doing a special on education/high schools
in the U.S.  They had a story about a high school in California which had 
recently taken a new principal who was turning the school into a music/
performing arts haven.  They spent money on professional quality equipment
and brought together a lot of good people to create a really positive, 
productive environment for the students (kind of one of stories they show
once in a while just to make you think the whole country isn't falling
apart :-)

Anyway, they were showing a shot of the music/recording facilities and guess
what was sitting on the desk next to all the keyboards and stuff?  That's
right, our friendly neighborhood ST with MIDI cables on the side.  Wish we
had those when I was in high school!

Ok, there's your picker-upper for the day, back to your regularly scheduled
drivel...  


Ben Gilbert
bgilbert@cs.washington.edu
From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: TT Unix ASV
Date: 5 Sep 92 05:55:42 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <3576@richsun.cpg.trs.reuter.com> chuck@cpg.trs.reuter.com (Chuck Menard) writes:
>>In <mack.714929181@deci>, Dan Mack writes:
> 
>>There's a System V R 4 from Atari Corp. containing X11/Motif and some
>>other neat stuff. It has only two problems: The ASV package is rather
>>expensive (in my opinion) and slow. But it is said to be quite stable.
>
>Can one actually purchase it now?  Is it for public sale or for developer's
>only? I'm am told by a local dealer that it's still for sale only for developer's
>here in the U.S.  The dealer did give me an expected price and it is outrageous.  

You should really contact Atari on this issue if you're really interested
in running Unix on your TT.  I wouldn't expect a dealer to know much about
it since it probably wouldn't be distributed in the normal dealer channels.
Some of the dealers I know don't know much about the Atari machines they
sell, not to mention Unix. :^)


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From: Dirk_Steins@k2.maus.de (Dirk Steins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Reible-card and ST/X-windows:
Date: 4 Sep 92 09:52:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: K2.A46601
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

s>In May, I received information from Atari Canada that the Reible-card
s>would allow me to connect my TT to an ethernet network, and that ST/X-
s>windows would allow me to run X-windows from the GEM desktop.  At the
s>time, I was promised information on the price and how to order it within
s>days.

The Riebl-Card is now distributed by Wacker Elektronik in Germany. You can try
to reach the company as wilfried_wacker@ka.maus.de. I'm sute they'll give you
some information.


 Gruss, Dirk
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From: cable@crs.cl.msu.edu (Dan Cable)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: 300dpi GDOS fonts
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:11:48 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

marc@hemlock.cray.com (Marc Bouron) writes:


>Hi People,

>Can anyone point me at any 300dpi GDOS fonts please?  I need them for
>my DeskJet and various GDOS applications.  Or perhaps I can just fire
>up a font editor and munge some existing fonts -- expand them, etc.?

There are a number of That's Write font archives on GEnie that contain 300dpi
LaserJet fonts. The naming conventions are a little funny and there may be
some extra characters, but they are GEM fonts.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: Falcon
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:49:46 GMT

In article 12746@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu, rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins) writes:
>
>     But anyone reading BYTE in the last couple of months has seen a
>full page Amiga ad! If Atari would like to sell a lot of falcons, they
>should get some ads in BYTE and a falcon in the hands of Jerry
>Pournelle. Then some people might stand up and here what Atari has to
>say.

Just as an update, Jerry Pournelle DOES have a Falcon now (or at least, soon will
have) as he attended the Glendale Atari Show this weekend and spent a long time
with Bill Rehbock and Bob Brodie of Atari.  Due to deadlines and long lead times,
we likely won't read of his impressions in Byte until the Jan or Feb issues though.

It would be nice to make the cover of Byte again (like the 1040ST did when it
was introduced as the first PC with 1Mb for under $1K).
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From: Chris_Millar@lppl.mi.org (Chris Millar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Is Falcon worth buying????
Distribution: world
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:50:35 EST
Organization: Les's Place BBS

Greggy POO writes:
> Mr. Kovarski has the right to post anything he wants, no exceptions.

Amazing coincidence, isn't it?  So do I!  Unless, of course, you are
suggesting that *I* do not have the same rights as mr. Kovarski, which
WOULD be descrimination, wouldn't it?  Yes, I think so.....
The bane and boon of the modern media, is that they have the right to
publish whatever they want (to a certain degree).  The abundance of
"tabloids" is the proof of this.  After a while, certain people take
advantage of the situation and publish whatever they want, whether it is
truth of fiction - it gets to a point where the practical and the
in-pratical start showing through.  If you hadn't noticed, Mr. Kovarski's
posts have been, to put it lightly, rather ridiculous.......chock full of
half-truths and lies......if YOU want to waste your time reading and
BELIEVING this trash, that is your right - but, I also have a right to
speak out against such garbage - case closed!

Remember "Greggy" - THINK before you reply........(for you maybe it should
be : Think BEFORE you reply...........)


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From: chan@pyramid.unr.edu (Kaho Chan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Free Commercial Software
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:40:20 GMT
Reply-To: chan@pyramid.unr.edu (Kaho Chan)
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno

In article <1992Sep9.161020.3894@cs.ruu.nl> avgroeni@cs.ruu.nl (Annius Groenink) writes:
>
>
>New idea?
>
>
>Commercial software today is very expensive for the sole reason that
>once a couple of people have bought a program it is just copied over
>the rest of the world. My solution is this one:
>
>  Make commercial software very cheap (10 dollars or sth) and get
>funding from e.g. Pepsi. Surely on the Falcon it must be possible to
>have your word processor open with an impressive colourful flying
>bottle of 'Vidal Sassoon'? Sorry, I have to wash and go now.
>
	That's an interesting idea, but there are flaws to this.
	For one:  It would be too expensive for non-computer companies
	 to support software.
	2:  Your monitor would look like a tv (with commercials)
	3:  It's not the same (like a billboard, actual sounds/visual...)

	I think that the idea of shareware is better or a scheme like 
	that brought on by the authors of Freeze Dried Terminal (where
	the authors give $5 to each $20 they receive from a user to the
	distributor).

	Piracy is a problem... 

>-- 
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>Laan van Borgele 24|maths/computer science at the
>   7415 DJ Deventer|University of Utrecht, Holland.

	Solution:  ???


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Mac OS vs. TOS (was Re: Falcon Graphics
From: James.Hampton@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:44:15 GMT
Organization: Actrix Networks

In article <1992Sep8.131121.3800@spcvxb.spc.edu> mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
> > The pick of the wizard of Wall street is a Mac Classic II?  Sounds
> > like the wizard turned himself into a clown!
> 
> Hehe, that is always the first sign that a rebuttal has no substance...
> when the person resorts to namecalling.  Nice try.

Hehe, rebutting someone with no substance requires no substance.  If
someone with your pretensions adorns himself with clown examples and 
argument then I should describe what you are: a clown.

> 
> No, it is not "my pick".  At work I use a MacIIfx and a Quadra 900
> and at home I use a 486-33 (soon to be 66mhz).  However, I can tell
> you (and any knowledgable salesperson will tell you) that the Mac
> Classic II and the Mac LC (a lowly 68020 machine) probably sold more
> units in the last 3 months than Atari sold in the last 2 years.

Make up your mind Mr. Bojangles.  You "picked" an example of something
you wanted us to compare with the Falcon.  Now instead you deny it
was your "pick" and want to shift your argument to a comparison of
sales?  So if your friendly narcotics dealer said that he sold more
crack cocaine than the corner drug store sold aspirin, cocaine must
be a better product?  Stick with your original argument of comparing
Mac Classic IIs with the Falcon and _defend_ it.  Unless you can't.

> At computer stores in NYC, they cannot keep Mac Classic II's on
> the shelves, while Atari products gather dust.

Notice how this clown shifts his argument to Apple marketing and 
sales?  And how he neglects to mention whether Atari Falcons would
gather dust when people could compare them with Classic IIs.  We
are waiting for you to _defend_ the merits of the Classic II
against the Falcon.  Stop playing games and wasting our time.

> > [My request to add up features of the Falcon]
> 
> Perhaps, you're average computer buyer doesn't want/need these
> features or is unwilling to buy into a company with a shady
> track record to get them?

Thanks for being the mouthpiece for the masses.  Unwilling to
buy from a company with a shady track record?  Who's buying
millions of cheap quality clones from mail-order companies with
names similar to Fast Eddies Clone and Car Repair Shop?  Clowns
like you, that's who.

As for buying from Atari, millions of recent Lynx buyers
_disprove_ your claim.  And if they find the Falcon just as
_unique_, they'll probably buy it too.  Understand?

>  
> Besides, you can buy a 486-box with [blah blah...].. you
> get the picture.

Only the picture of Red Skelton with you.  Now your "pick"
is a 486?  Your original pick of the Classic II wasn't so
good or something?  Will you defend the 486 pick as well?
 
>  
> What am I driving at?  The Falcon may or may not be a good
>  [blah blah...]
  
> > Take a week and report back what the extras would cost us.  Thanks
> > for helping us ignorant folks out.
>  
> Chris

We're still waiting for the report.