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From: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Capturing Screen Images Into FM Document
Keywords: Capture Images
Date: 15 Sep 92 12:59:35 GMT
Organization: The GRAFex Company

zmaa27@trc.amoco.com (Mary Ann Adair) writes:

> While an image is being displayed in FM (e.g., the tool bar, the paragraph,
> charachter format boxes, etc.), how can one pull this screen image into your
> FM Document?  
> 
> We notice that the FM Manual for Macs has many such instances throughout
> the manual and we had a need to do the same thing.  We didn't find any
> instruction in their manuals on how to do this.

MacFrame and MSWindows Frame do not have screen grabber capabilities.  One
must use a third party product.  I use Capture on the Mac and FullShot on
the PC.

steve

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From: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Frame on Windows
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:52:26 GMT
Reply-To: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.  Engineering

In article <1992Sep4.180504.8362@mks.com>, fred@mks.com (Fred Kratky) writes:
> I have recently started using Frame on Windows.  With each save it
> appears that Frame is creating a new file by adding % to the beginning
> of the file. eg: if I save "file" 4 times there are four files, the last
> one having the name %%%file.

The same thing happens on MAC frame.  I think it may be a resource 
fork.


Tom Pickett 
tpickett@auspex.com
SHO  GOZE
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame,comp.text.interleaf
From: todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams)
Subject: Re: Frame2Interleaf converter
Followup-To: comp.text.frame
Summary: mudslinging
Organization: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 21:18:13 GMT

In article <lafbc5INNhbp@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> mickey@magickingdom.Eng.Sun.COM (Michael Bierman) writes:
>	Frame Technology Corp. now has a FrameMaker to Interleaf filter.
>	I haven't used it extensively, but it seems pretty good.

You haven't used it extensively.
We have, and we've had lots of problems.
I hope you don't want to convert any *equations* :-(

>	Frame is running an ad in SunWorld, "The Ultimate Interleaf
>	"upgrade". The deal is you get the Interleaf filter (a $995	
>	value) for free with the purchase of a Unix (Sun?) purchase.

Yes, we saw the ad.  We made a dartboard out of it.  It's a pretty sickening
example of mudslinging.  It really turned us OFF, and it may have affected
the opinions of the people who sign the P.R.'s to buy more copies of Frame.

We run Interleaf and Frame here, and we believe that each product has its
place.  We're familiar with the good and bad points of each product.  With
this latest example of sleazy advertising, we've just added one more black
mark in Frame's "bad points" column.

Disclaimer: I do NOT speak for my employer.
-- 
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MacNeal-Schwendler Corp. ("MSC"),  815 Colorado Blvd.,  Los Angeles, CA   90041
"The Democrats stand for nothing except 'I wish I was a Republican' and the
Republicans stand for raw, unbridled evil and greed and ignorance smothered
in balloons and ribbons."  -Frank Zappa, 1991  (Zappa for president!)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: pete@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au (Pete Staples)
Subject: master page problem
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 05:16:00 GMT

Many thanks for all the help on my previous c code problem.

I was reading though the faq's and noticed the way 
to put draft into the background of a document.
("Looks good, I'll give it a go")

I followed the instructions, but alas got no "DRAFT" in the 
background after printing. I had a look on xpsview and noticed "DRAFT" was
being written and then deleted...(bummer). I had a quick 
hack at the ps and was able to print the page as I required.
Is there something I have missed?

Thanks in advance

Peter.
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: zmaa27@trc.amoco.com (Mary Ann Adair)
Subject:  Capturing Screen Images Into FM Document
Keywords: Capture Images
Reply-To: zmaa27@trc.amoco.com (Mary Ann Adair)
Organization: Amoco Production Research
Distribution: na 
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:35:31 GMT

While an image is being displayed in FM (e.g., the tool bar, the paragraph,
charachter format boxes, etc.), how can one pull this screen image into your
FM Document?  

We notice that the FM Manual for Macs has many such instances throughout
the manual and we had a need to do the same thing.  We didn't find any
instruction in their manuals on how to do this.

Mary Ann Adair
zmaa27@trc.amoco.com

 


Mary Ann Adair
Geological Research
zmaa27@trc.amoco.com
From: linda@zigana.West.Sun.COM (Linda)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Frame -- Solaris 2.0
Date: 10 Sep 1992 02:44:05 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: linda@zigana.West.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: zigana.west.sun.com

Has anyone out there tried to use frame 3.1A with Solaris 2.0?

linda

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Linda Knapp		linda.knapp@west.sun.com
Systems Engineer
Sun Microsystems Inc.
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: sasjmg@dickens.unx.sas.com (Jodie Gilmore)
Subject: broken vertical bar on HP machine
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 12:31:09 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.



I am trying to type a broken vertical bar in a FrameMaker document.
I looked in the Reference manual's character set table, and didn't
see one there (I actually looked *twice*). Does anyone know how to get
a broken vertical bar? I am running FM on an HP machine, and have all
the default FM fonts available. 

Please email me with responses, as I don't read this newsgroup but about
once a week.

Thanks!
-- 
Jodie Gilmore
sasjmg@unx.sas.com

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From: marc@uni-paderborn.de (Marc Gumbold)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: OpenWindows-Version
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:28:48 GMT
Organization: Uni-GH Paderborn

Is anyone out there using both the Open Windows version _and_ the 
X-Window/Motif version on his/her Sun?

I wonder in what points exactly the Open Windows version differs from
the Motif version. Is it just the UI (Xview vs. Motif) or are there
inherent differences? Does the OW version make use of any OW features?

Does anyone know of international versions of the OW version? My sales
rep :( told me the OW version would only be avaiblable as an English
version. Is that true?

Thanks for any helpful hint,
Marc

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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: sasjmg@dickens.unx.sas.com (Jodie Gilmore)
Subject: addendum to broken vertical bar post
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 12:32:19 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.

In case it didn't get added, my name is Jodie Gilmore and my email
address is sasjmg@unx.sas.com  

Sometimes my machine prompts me to add a sig file, and sometimes it
doesn't...
-- 
Jodie Gilmore
sasjmg@unx.sas.com

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From: kob@ixos.de (Karl Obermayr)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: ATA 100; page numbering
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:20:58 GMT
Organization: iXOS Software GmbH, Munich, Germany

Hello FrameMakers,

is there anybody with experiences on producing FrameMaker documents 
according to the ATA 100 specification. It specifies how technical documents
used in the aiplane industry should be made up and should look like.

If you have to produce ATA 100 documents, you might have come across some
problems that are not easy or impossible to solve.

One of this problem comes with the page numbering:
There are circumstances when it is necessary to produce two consecutive
page numbers on the same page - and of course you don't want do do it manually.

Example:
The sheet number 5 has to take the page numbers 5 and 6; the sheet
number 6 is all blank and the sheet number 7 is the next ordinary page with
the page number 7.

What I want is something like <$pagenum+1>, which doesn't exist.

Any solutions to this problem?
Any experiences with ATA 100?

Please reply by e-mail! Any reply is welcome!

Karl Obermayr

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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: Mike Dustan <Mike_Dustan@sfu.ca>
Subject: Re: master page problem
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6D3ACDB7C012B30@opifex.ucs.sfu.ca>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 9 Sep 92 21:30:03 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:30:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.125735.13339@sei.cmu.edu> Alan Koch, ask@sei.cmu.edu
writes:
>Yes.  The text columns must be transparent.  You see, the "Draft" is a
>background graphic, and as such, is behind the text columns on the page.
>
>If you are planning to use the draft banner, you should make all text
columns
>(on all pages and all master pages) Fill Pattern: None.
>
>Unfortunately, for an already existing document, I know of no way to do
a mass
>change of this type.  You must go to EVERY page, select the text
column(s) and
>click Fill:None.  Not fun in a 100 page document.
>

Surely you could make the change on each master page you use and then use
Use Formats From, applying Page Layout? Haven't tested it, but I think it
should work. Of course, if you have 100 different page layouts, this
won't help much.

Cheers

Mike Dustan, Computing Services, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC
Canada
From: pla_jfr@pkinbg.UUCP (joachim friedrichs,LD,)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: filter: troff -> MIF
Date: 14 Sep 92 09:47:48 GMT

From article <4197@seti.UUCP>, by azuelos@nuri.inria.fr (Daniel  AZUELOS):
> Where may I find such a filter (if it does exist):
> 
> 	troff -> FrameMaker (2.1, 3.0 or 3.1)

FrameMaker Filterpak 3.0 includes the trofftomif filter.


Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: Mike Dustan <Mike_Dustan@sfu.ca>
Subject: Re: book format problem
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6D66A0B2D012B30@opifex.ucs.sfu.ca>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 11 Sep 92 23:21:47 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:21:51 GMT

In article <waldnerm.716161544@blau9> Matthew R. Waldner,
waldnerm@rtsg.mot.com writes:
>I have a book file.  Some of my chapter documents are saved
>in Editable Maker Format and some are saved in Maker Inter-
>change Format.  When I attempt to generate the TOC.doc 
>file or just to update the date variables 
>generate/update stops when a document, saved in Maker Inter-
>change Format, is scanned.  The error message is:
>"Not a Document: <name_of_document>.
>
>Is it possible to mix the formats of the documents inside
>a book file and still be able to do a generate/update?  I
>need to be able to save these particular chapter documents
>in this format for a tool I use to create test scripts.

It seems pretty clear that FrameMaker will not do a generate on a
MIF-format document. It looks as if you'll have to save the affected
chapters in both formats.

Mike Dustan, Computing Services, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC
Canada
From: jonas@ipcsun5.his.se (Jonas Mellin)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: OpenWindows-Version
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:11:30 GMT
Organization: University of Skoevde, Skoevde
In-reply-to: marc@uni-paderborn.de's message of 14 Sep 92 21:28:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.212848.7680@uni-paderborn.de> marc@uni-paderborn.de (Marc Gumbold) writes:

   ... stuff deleted

   Does anyone know of international versions of the OW version? My sales
   rep :( told me the OW version would only be avaiblable as an English
   version. Is that true?


We are running Framemaker 3.0 under OW and the user dialogue is in
english, but there are dictionaries for various languages. It is a bit
troublesome when I produce a mixed language document and I want to
have different personal dictionaries for each language. As far as I
know it is possible to change the language in the user dialogue
yourself and FM is built to be extended. So far I have not seen a
Swedish user dialogue though.

/Jonas
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: Mike Dustan <Mike_Dustan@sfu.ca>
Subject: Re: DeskJet500 and Frame
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6D2659E41012B30@opifex.ucs.sfu.ca>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 8 Sep 92 22:13:50 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:13:56 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.033247.25416@nuscc.nus.sg> Teng-Kiat Lee,
engp1261@nuscc.nus.sg writes:
>I am now looking for a printer for home use (hate having to travel to
>my office to print a personal letter on a Sunday) and has more or less
>decided on DeskJet 500. I will be using FrameMaker for windows for most
>of the documents (I figured with all the filters around, I can always
>get any other formats into Frame). My concern now is the quality of
>the print (equations, graphics etc.) and how fast the printer can do
>a page (could it be less than 1 page per min when printing graphics?).

I've used Frame on a Deskwriter C, driving it from a Mac Plus (can you
say s-l-o-w?). Print quality seems pretty good, except for shaded table
cells. Frame *really* wants a PostScript printer to talk to and uses
72dpi bit-map shading when shading on a QuickDraw printer. It also
renders lines narrower than 1 point as 1 point, since that's the minimum
that basic QuickDraw defines. I've never tried it with equations.

Given these apparent PostScript dependencies (which seem to be
platform-independent), I'd recommend you test the DeskJet thoroughly
before you buy one. Borrow one for a weekend if possible and give Frame a
good workout on it.

Cheers

Mike Dustan, Computing Services, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC
Canada
From: kemsley@ipld04.hac.com (Dave H. Kemsley)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Command Line Use Of Frame's Speller
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:04:28 GMT
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company - Canoga Park, CA

Does anyone know if Framemaker's (Sun) spell checker can be used outside
of Frame (e.g., from the command line). I doubt if it can be, but it sure
would be nice considering the spelling checkers available in this command
line world! Or does anyone have any suggestions of a spell checker that
is MUCH better than spell or philspell that can be hooked into existing
programs (e.g., textedit, emacs, vi,....)

Feel free to reply via e-mail

Dave Kemsley
kemsley@ipld01.hac.com

Hughes Missile Systems Company,
Canoga Park, CA

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: framer@drd.com (Framers.List)
Subject: Framers Forum Magazine
Followup-To: poster
Reply-To: 70750.2371@compuserve.com (Patrick A. Walsh)
Organization: Framers Forum Magazine
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 11:45:24 GMT

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uunet!drd!framers-request                  DRD Corp. (918) 743-3013
Organisation: European Space Technology Centre (E.S.T.E.C)
Date: Monday, 14 Sep 1992 15:05:59 CET
From: C R Francis <RFRANCIS@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject:    Using filters

I think I'm doing something daft.  I want to open a Word 4.0 document
under FrameMaker 3.0 on a Mac.  I've put the Word filter in the same
directory as Framemaker (following the instructions).  I can't find
the Word doc in the file list when I choose Open.  I could find a
couuple of other Word docs, but only those saved with the option
'Text only' (ie ASCII).  The ones I want are saved as 'Normal' (ie
with formatting etc - which is what I want).

I'm beginning to get the nasty feeling that this filter only works
with ASCII input.

please tell me I'm doing something wrong.

-------------------------------------        Richard Francis
Internet: rfrancis@estec.estec.esa.nl        European Space Research and
Bitnet  : rfrancis@estec.bitnet                Technology Centre (ESTEC)
SPAN    : ESTERS::FRANCIS
smail   : C R Francis, OEE/OWP, ESTEC, Keplerlaan 1, 2200AG NOORDWIJK NL
From: robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: c code from vi
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:22:00 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <pete.715936644@marsh> pete@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au (Pete Staples)  
writes:
> 
> How do I emulate vi type tabs in framemaker?
> 
> I have C code i want to put into an appendix and the tabs 
> don't line up. Frame seems to position the first tab 
> at tabstop 1 and if you are past it, tough. Whereas vi 
> keeps "tabs" (perhaps a better word required here) of the
> position on the line.
> 
> If this makes sense, could someone please post me the answer.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Peter.

We use a lot of code examples in our books, and they work.

Be sure you use a monospace font, like Courier, for your examples, if you want vi  
emulation.

Adjusting the tab stops from the paragraph dialog box, or the ruler, should allow a  
good emulation of vi format.

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From: idf@cs.bham.ac.uk (Ian Fitchet)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: frame Xresources
Date: 8 Sep 92 10:54:48 GMT
	<1992Sep7.112923.9607@cc.uow.edu.au>
Organization: School of Computer Science, University of Birmingham


 On 7 Sep 92, Jeremy Lawrence wrote

> What version of Frame are you using?

> The makekit.geometry resource seems to work fine with 3.1X/Sun under
> olvwm 3.2, but I remember having problems with 3.0X/Sun under
> OpenWindows 2.0.

 Whoops, sorry.  This is 3.1X(*) [March 1992] under twm.  SunOS 4.1.x
on SPARCs.

(*) Don't know if this signifies a full licence, but it is anyway.

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Cheers,

	Ian

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From: jonas@ipcsun5.his.se (Jonas Mellin)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: TEX -> MIF?
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:57:40 GMT
Organization: University of Skoevde, Skoevde


Hi.

Does anyone know of a filter that translates TEX into MIF (and vice versa)?

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From: dmaclean@zog.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave MacLean)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: getting FRAME's RPC number?
Date: 14 Sep 1992 20:27:06 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dmaclean@zog.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: zog.ebay.sun.com

Frame will create an X server property with "hostname:RPC_prognum" in it.
You can read this using the XGetWindowProperty function. The name of the
property is _Frame_RPC unless you set it with the -rpcProp option to Frame.
To check this from a shell, use the xprop -root command and grep for Frame.

This is documented in the "Integrating Applications with Framemaker" manual.
What isn't well documented is that you can set the property for your
application in the inseteditors file, *even if it's a Client* and not an
inset editor. I've done this to get Frame to talk to my application where
both processes are dynamically choosing their RPC program numbers.

- dave

Disclaimer: This works for the version I'm running (OL) so your mileage may
vary.

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