Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: I Question this Institution
From: r0016@desire.wright.edu
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:51:44 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

To let you in on where I am coming from, I'm just a browser.  Backround:  Roman
Catholic...the works.  First, let me say that those of the Judeo-Christian
religions who condemn need fear condemnation themselves (ala "Judge not, lest
ye be judged.")  So, don't go blowing me off as being one of the whores of
Babylon, and so on.  I just want a few questions answered, and points brought
up.  Mature, non-judgmental responses are happily welcomed...

1.  In my religion, Satan is considered the "Father of Lies", "The Deciever",
"The Liar", etc. etc...Okay--my point stems from the are-old quaestion about
the two gate keepers.  G.K.#1 always tells the truth, G.K.#2 always lies.  The
fundamental problem is that you must choose between two doors.  One leads to
certain, horrible death, the other to paradise.  You are allowed to ask the
gate keepers any yes-no questions you wish...How do you decide which door to
open (preferably the non-fatal one!)  ANSWER:  Ask both G.K.'s which door the
other G.K. will say leads to paradise, and then choose the opposite door. 
(Becasue the truthful one will tell you that the liar will say that the
doom-door is the right one--which IS the truth; and the Lying G.K. will say
that the honest one will pick the doom-door as well, because the truth is that
the honest one would have picked the right door, but the liar MUST lie, so he
says the doom-door is the one that the honest one will pick.)  Okay, enough
elementary stuff:

	1.  Lying is self-serving and self-service is indulgent.  Therefore,
lying is self-indulgent...even when the lie is self-harmful, because the
individual indulged his/her urge to take the consequences he/she would get for
misrepresenting the truth (a.k.a. a lie.)
	2.  Satanism preaches self-indulgence, and the progenitor of Satanism
is, I can only assume, Satan...wheter he be of the Judeo-christian sort of
devil, or he be an archetype.  Therefore Satan is self-indulgent, and uses lies
for his personal self-indulgence (ie, he is a liar.)
	3.  Allow me to propose that there is a HELL...one where the eternal
souls of those therein were tortured brutally over an eternity...One who's
chief jurisdictor is Satan.  Allowing this assumption, then HELL is not a place
that is desirable to go to...even to the most masochistic!
	4.  Allow me to propose that certain actions here, on Earth, could earn
you a ticket to HELL after death.  Let us not make these actions
Christian-related, but let us say that such "inappropriate behavior" would
include anything that seriously harmed the eternal development of the
soul...not things like birth control, or stealing or coveting your neighbor's
wife...things generally associated with Christianity...but things like rape,
murder, destruction of livelihood or reputation...things that really hurt the
people such actions are perpetrated against.  Things that slay the soul...
	5.  Adimittedly, killing, raping, and slandering those whom you do not
like is not only instinctual, but also very self-indulgent...especially from
the viewpoint of making yourself supreme and unchallenged in your own realm. 
These are things that are not entirely out of the range of human capability,
however Satanism is the only religion that does not try to restrain its
followers from such actions.  In a way it gives carte blanche to all of its
members.  By sheer ommission, it condones such actions.
	6.  Allowing me, for the sake of argument, assumptions number 3 and 4
above to stand, is it not true that perhaps you could go to hell for basically
creating a hell-on-earth for someone else?  And is it not true that these
things are self indulgent?  Yet no mention is given of punishment in your
religion.  Why?

	Could it be that, like the lying gate-keeper, Satan will never tell you
that the actions his religion condones will lead you to hell?  Sounds pretty
hard-core Catholic, hm?  Sorry, didn't mean to come off like that...however,
how can you be sure that exactly what I have just said is not the truth?  If
your religion says that there is no god, no punishment, and no hell...simply
the rule to do what thou willst, and the figure-head of your religion is a
liar, how can you have any doubt that what he stands for is a lie?  He would
merely be practicing what he preaches--self indulgence...
	
	...And we haven't even touched on the subject of God yet!

	Thanks for your time, and your responses (in advance)
	I will sincerely be  awaiting a response.