From: georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.herbalism
Date: 7 Sep 92 21:53:07 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <1992Sep7.015405.6145@wolves.uucp> news@wolves.uucp (The Wolfe of the Den) writes:
>In article <1992Sep05.143515.13901@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu 
>(George B. Clark) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep5.030623.18637@wolves.uucp> news@wolves.uucp I wrote:
>>>[Note: followup to alt.config only please.]
>>>
>>I strongly object to the formation of alt.herbalism. My concern is that
>>it will become a haven for medical quackery. Participants will be
>
>	Fortunately, we are not necessarly bound what *you* think of the
>groups purpose.  You are welcome to your opinions, but kindly allow
>others the freedom to discuss what they wish.

Hey, take it easy, "Wolfe of the Den." The purpose of this thread is for
people to cast votes, not to start a flame. You make it sound as if people
aren't entitled to an opinion on the proposal, unless their opinion is
consistent with yours. That makes you the oppressor, not me.


>	Medical Science is not, despite your wishful thinking, an
>"absolute truth".  Neither is any other kind of science or discipline an

Now your motivation and perspective is clear. You hate medical doctors,
and given your immature, rebellious attitude, I'd say you are about
18 years old.


>	And the FBI and NSA would dearly love for consumer available secure
>encryption to be non-existent.

The FBI and NSA have nothing to do with criteria for creating alt.herbalism.
Why do you dislike the FBI and the NSA, and what does this have to do with
anything?
>


>	Individuals are still allowed to make their own choices, despite
>the AMA and the governments' attempts to limit their freedom.

Yes, but this will change within a year, with respect to availability
of herbs for medicinal purposes, when enforcement of new F.D.A. regulations
begin.


>	So show that individuals discussing the use of herbal
>preparations is an absolute precursor to the separation of a fool and
>the fool's money.

Easy. Your own irresponsible, cynical attitude, Mr. Wolfe of the Den, is
reason enough to conclude the proposed newsgroup will be a haven for
quackery and irresponsible, uninformed opinions.

However, on second thought, go ahead and form your newsgroup. But if
you or anyone else asserts a health claim for an herbal medicine that is
not supported by data, you won't get away with it. You will be exposed
for what you are: a close-minded, misinformed, arrogant little ass.

You're a real sucker. You're the kind of consumer the health food stores
and other perpetrators of herbal-medicine quackery love. You spend
your money on their over-priced products, and you get no results in
return. If you would look at it from this point of view, you would be angry
at these people. It is a very sleazy, but profitable business, and
that is precisely the reason it is going to be eradicated by the
FDA because consumers like you aren't wise enough to realize it is
a scam.

Don't feel angry because I called you a sucker. It only means you are
normal. None of us can be informed about all things, and we all are
scam victims at some point in our lives.
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