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From: ayim@lambert.uwaterloo.ca (Alfred Yim)
Subject: Toronto wins the Cup (Why not?)
Keywords: Leafs Toronto Cup
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:25:03 GMT

Okay, I gotta tell ya,

Yesterday I was listening to my favourite sports
radio the FAN 1430 in Toronto and my favourite
opinionated, pro-leaf broadcaster Storm'in Norman
brought up the question of who would take the Cup
this year.
As usual it was the same "...if Mario returuns..."
(and I personally hopes he gets better soon)
idea. But... let's face it, no matter what the doctors
may say he probably won't, and even if he does
he's not gonna be 100%.

So, the question remains....
well, what about the Leafs!!!!!! Yes! You heard me
the Leaf's!!!! I would like my fellow netter's
opinions on this on reasons why or why not the Leafs
won't take the cup. 

Here are my reason's why...

1. Gilmour Borchevsky Cullun Power play...
   (actually 3 reasons)
2. Best goaltending in the league. (if Grant is injured
   there's always Potvin)
3. They are presently over 25 points the same time
   last year.
4. Pat Burns is a proven coach
5. They beat Montreal 2...2...2 times!!!
   (please no flame from Hab fans)
6. Best fans in the league. (cheap but gets the 
   applause.)

 ---anymore I missed?--

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From: gp2011@andy.bgsu.edu (George Pavlic)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NHL INJURY REPORT FOR 1-25-93
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:59:23 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.hockey
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.

In article <1993Jan25.220205.25599@cbnewsi.cb.att.com>,
bks2@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (bryan.k.strouse) wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> NHL INJURY REPORT FOR 01-25-93
> 
> 
> TEAM	PLAYER			INJURY				DATE BACK
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> PIT	Kjell Samuelsson	broken cheekbone		INDEF
 

Kjell is playing again.  He was back in the lineup last Friday against
Edmonton.  He even scored a goal Saturday against Calgary.

George
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From: simpson@bnr.ca (Scott Simpson)
Subject: Re: Right/left
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:42:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.153332.15225@bcrka451.bnr.ca> simpson@bnr.ca (Scott Simpson) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.134851.11686@sulo.otol.fi> pode@sulo.otol.fi (Janne Potila) writes:
>>
>>Has anyone made any research about the amount of players keeping 
>>right/left hand down on stick.
>>
>>So, if someone has made comparisons between the number of "the rights" 
>>in the whole league and on the other hand the number of them on top 
>>10/50/100 scorers, I would like to see them. That might prove my idea 
>>totally wrong.
>>       * Janne Potila *-*-*----------------------------------->
>
> [list of top 100 scorers deleted]
>
>So, all this means that:
>
>    1-5:     3R  -   2L
>    1-10:    6L  -   4R
>    1-20:   10L  -  10R
>    1-50:   26L  -  24R
>    1-100:  59L  -  41R
>
>So, what does this mean?  Nothing, I suppose.  But them's the facts.
>Me

And, just to follow-up my own post...

Taking this thing a bit further (hey, it was a boring lunch hour), here's the 
summary from all players listed in the '92-'93 guide from each team's roster 
(disclaimer: I made no effort to choose only those players in the NHL-- the 
guide lists about 50 players from each team, including a half a dozen or more 
goalies)

Breaking down by position:

Forwards:  left: 479  right: 334  58.92% left
Defence:   left: 273  right: 152  64.24% left
Goalies:   left: 128  right:  15  89.51% left (*catches left)
Total:     left: 870  right: 501  66.87% left

Removing the goalies:
Shooters:  left: 752  right: 486  61.07% left

And, from my earlier post on the top 100 point-getters:
Top100pts: left:  59  right:  41  59.00% left

Not much of a difference, I'd say.  Anyway, just thought I'd add.


Later,
That Scott Guy (again)
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From: ncjlog@atmos.washington.edu (Neal Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: SELANNE vs BURE
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:13:52
Organization: Dept. of Atmospheric Sciences, University of Washington
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In-reply-to: Barry_Fence@mindlink.bc.ca's message of Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:28:00 GMT

In article <19868@mindlink.bc.ca> 
Barry_Fence@mindlink.bc.ca (Barry Fence) writes:

> I think that they should have two separate competitions for skating speed in
> the skills competitions. First, the fastest a player can skate around the
> perimeter of the ice surface and Second, the quickest a player can
> accellerate over a short distance. I believe that sheer speed alone doesn't
> make a player great, but the ability to shift "gears" in a split second.

I agree.  
I think Bure has the edge here.

> Otherwise Randheim of Calgary would have 100 point seasons every year.

> It's hard to believe that as of Sunday the 17th of January, that Selanne has
> scored 68 points and is only a +1!

Remember that <<<Hate to walk out on this limb without double checking but>>> 
a much larger than average percentage of his points
have come on the PP and thus are not figured as a part of the PM.
 
He has certainly produced better at even strength over the last 1/2 of
the season so far than he did over the first .5.

On a slightly related note.... I saw the Kings/Jets game in Winnipeg 
recently.  Can anybody explain why there was more cheering for Domi's
checks than for Selanne's play?  Admittedly Zhamnov and one of the
other Russki's were the highlight reel generator's that night but this
Domi is a major league loser.  Even after McSorley rattled his teeth
the fans cheered him.  I was gonna buy a jersey but they were hawking
those with his number on it...  No thanks.

Maybe it wasn't a majority cheering for him but it seemed that way.
I don't mind a little of the rough stuff in a game but why do folks
cheer for someone that is only there to go out and do something
stupid?  Is it because they are stupid?  I saw this last year in
Vancouver when the crowd starts chanting Gi-no Gi-no Gi-no.  He comes
out and starts something and immediately goes to the box and the
opponents tied it up...Way to go Gino!!

For you winter-lovers... It was supposed to fall to -34 F  in Winnipeg
that night but the lowest I actually saw on a bank sign was -26.
From: am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Anna Matyas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Pens Trade Rumor
Date: 25 Jan 93 03:57:45 GMT
	<2305@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Organization: H&SS Dean's Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Dean Falcione writes:

>The following player has been involved in all kinds of assinine trade
>rumors all year:
> 
>19 Goals
>33 Assists
>(52 points in 47 games)
>+13 (though he's not known for defense)
>7 GW goals (though he's not on the top line most of the time)
> 
> 
>Yes, its Jaromir Jagr.   If you didn't know his name, just his stats,
>would you still be so interested in trading him?

>The following player has been the subject of trade rumors for the last 5 
>or so years:
> 
>31 Goals
>29 Assists
>(60 points in 45 games)
>+6 (though he's a predominantly offensive player)
>11 PP and 4 GW goals
> 
>Yes, its Luc Robitaille.
> 
> 
>Why do people always seem eager to get rid of certain players no matter
>how productive they are?
> 
>(The above question is rhetorical, no need to answer). 

Because teams always have other needs.  Good players are traded all the
time.  It's as simple as that.  If you looked only at Ron Francis' or
Bob Errey's numbers you might want to trade them and yet they consistently
play extremely well (altho Errey isn't having such a strong season this
year, in my opinion).  Numbers don't tell the whole story; shame on you
for implying that they do.

Mom.
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From: drake@dragon.cpe.ulowell.edu (Frank Drake)
Subject: Re: Aluminum hockey sticks
Organization: University of Massachusetts Lowell
	<C1H5ux.Cx7@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:19:41 GMT

In article <C1H5ux.Cx7@acsu.buffalo.edu> hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl) writes:
> Another thing which seems to happen is if the shaft of an aluminum
> stick comes into contact with another player's skate blade, the skate 
> blade loses its edge.  Has anyone else noticed the increase in the 
> number of players that need to go get their skates sharpened in the 
> course of a game?   

I don't think this is likely - I don't think this kind of contact between
the shaft of the stick and the blade is common. And the player holding the
stick would be a lot more likely to drop the stick before the blade was
damaged. But, I could be wrong.

I lose more edges by having my skates coming in contact with 1) the boards;
2) other players skates (almost every time I head into the boards I can
plan to get them sharpened); and 3) the concrete underneath those worn, flimsy
rubber mats.

Frank
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University of Massachusetts Lowell
Center for Productivity Enhancement                               (508)934-2630
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From: gtd597a@prism.gatech.EDU (Michael D. Friedman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Manon Rheaume
Date: 28 Jan 93 05:35:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1993Jan26.184755.12840@cbnews.cb.att.com> dbd@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.b.delorme) writes:
>In article <C1FI5u.B2D@acsu.buffalo.edu> v050lt62@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (SAINT) writes:
>>	Has any one heard of any news on this female hockey phenom? I'd like to
>>hear an update, as I have not heard of any recent news on her play, or lack
>>there of. Any answers will be appreciated. 
>Well, when I was in Atlanta around Christmas time I went to
>a Knights games.  Manon was sitting in the stands with the
>other third string players.  The Knights had just called up 
>a guy named Mike Greenlay from Louisville to be their second
>string goalie.

	Living in Atlanta, I heard that she was repremanded by the owner
for a while for "screwing around" (so to speak) with the male players. These
allegations appear to be false, however.

	She did play for about 1 period in relief and gave up a couple of
goals. So, in limited action her GAA is 10.00 

	They had an interview with her on local television the other day, 
and while she said she was in Atlnata to get more experience, it seems like
she'll stick around here for a while.

>
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From: marshall@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Jim Marshall - DCS)
Subject: Re: WHATS WRONG WITH THE HABS
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:31:51 GMT

In article <C1H5zF.JI6@cs.mcgill.ca>, shayne@cs.mcgill.ca (Lydia Mancini) writes:
> In article <1993Jan25.150738.28729@fuug.fi> 
> an6261@anon.penet.fi (lovegod) writes:
> >        What is wrong with the "Habs" or whatever they're called is that 
> >they are a garbage team that floats on a string of ancient successes that 
> >occured for the most part when there were only 6 teams in the league.
> >        As soon as Quebec separates and becomes a northern Mexico, no one 
> >will want to play for worthless Quebec money and the team will fold.
> >
> >HABS SUCK HABS SUCK HABS SUCK HABS SUCK HABS SUCK HABS SUCK HABS SUCK
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi.
> >Due to the double-blind system, any replies to this message will be anonymized,
> >and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned.
> 
> 
> Chicken! 
> 
> -- Lydia
> 
> -- 
>  (==)(==)(==)(==)(==)(==)(==)(==)(==)(==)(==)(==)(==)(==)(==)(==)(==)(==)(==)
>   Lydia Mancini       | "Oh drat these computers are so naughty and so 
>   shayne@cs.mcgill.ca |  complex.  I could pinch them." 
>   McGill University   |  -- Marvin The Martian from Loony Tunes

Whats wrong with the Habs???
They are in 3rd place overall (as of Tuesday AM.)
They are 5th in GF.
They are 8th in GA.
They have 3 players in the top 25 scorers.

I guess you wanted them (not Lydia) either in first place in everything
or last place in everything.  Considering their draft position for the
last 20 years or so, I think they are doing pretty good.  But I do
hope they win the cup this year.


**************************************************************************

Jim Marshall

Dept.of Computing Services
University of Waterloo
Waterloo, Ontario
Canada

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From: jrmst8+@pitt.edu (Joseph R Mcdonald)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Coffey (was: Barrasso has pox)
Date: 22 Jan 93 00:11:29 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <gp2011-180193125227@m248-68.bgsu.edu| gp2011@andy.bgsu.edu (George Pavlic) writes:
|In article <MfKfb9y00Uzx41RZsj@andrew.cmu.edu>, Anna Matyas
|<am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
|> I'll tell ya, though, I still miss Coff on the power play.  Watching
|> Larry Murphy (who I like a lot) and Ron Francis (my favorite Penguin)
|> setting things up just isn't very exciting.
|> 
|> Mom.
|
|I will admit that I miss him on the power play also, but that is the only
|place where he is missed.  Just last week (week & 1/2) at the NorthStars
|game I commented how much I loved to see Cof work the power play.  The two
|big things are how he would rush the puck up ice ( he did that all the
|time) and how he and Mario would just one-time the puck back and forth for
|what "seemed like eternity."  Then when Lemieux saw he had an open shot, he
|would one-time that slapslot into the upper corner of the net.  That's how
|he scored his one goal against Buffalo in the last game of the season in
|89-90 after missing 24(?) games because of his back.  Ahhhhhhhhhhhh,
|memories.
|
|George


That "Boring" power play that you two seem to think is lacking has been
scoring at a 26% clip with Francis and Murphy on the point and *NO*
Coffey.

Coffey's best year in Pittsburgh we never APPROACHED 26%.

You can have pretty, or you can have productive.  I'll take productive.

Dean
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From: sglenn@cmsa.gmr.com (Scott Glenn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Wings News
Date: 23 Jan 93 17:49:42 GMT
Reply-To: sglenn@cmsa.gmr.com
NNTP-Software: PC/TCP NNTP

Since we've heard from a few of the Blues fans about Thursday's game... 
thought I'd throw my 2 cents in...              

1 - How can someone whose a fan of the team that Garth Butcher plays
    on accuse someone else of diving?  Ciccarelli?  What about Butcher?
    He should retire and become an artist...the guy is always trying to 
    draw a penalty! :-)  

2 - For the guy who commented about Fedorov always falling down...hmmm...
    I've only seen the highlights of his goal a couple dozen times, and
    it seems as he is raising his stick to celebrate the goal, here comes
    Rick Zombo with a nice little shove from behind on Fedorov into the
    net.  

At any rate, tonight's the rematch.

INJURY REPORT:  Dennis Vial - out 4 - 6 weeks (shoulder)
Mark Howe - questionable (back)
Dino Ciccarelli - probable (elbows)
Dallas Drake - probable (kneecap - missed most of third period thursday)
Jimmy Carson - probable (adminomal strain)
Steve Chaisson - probable (groin?)

TRADE RUMORS:  As reported on the net, the latest rumor was Tikkanen and
Manson for Primeau, Gallant, Racine, and Ysebaert.
Bryan Murray said that he had talked with Glen Sather, and some of the names
are correct, but nothing was ever worked out...he just asked what he would
have to give, Sather gave him an anwser, and Murray said it was too much.

MISC:  Bobby Dollas was recalled from Adirondack and played Thursday...
Keith Primeau has sat out the last 4 games...the team is unbeaten in the
last 5, and has only lost 4 out of the last 19.

-Scott


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From: clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen)
Subject: Re: NHL Realignment Proposed
Originator: clamen@BYRON.SP.CS.CMU.EDU
Reply-To: clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
	<93026.230258RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> <C1Iowo.Dr4@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:11:22 GMT

In article <C1Iowo.Dr4@acsu.buffalo.edu> hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl) writes:

   In article <93026.230258RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu (Robbie Po) writes:
   >In article <C1HD3A.G88@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, kellerjb@sage.cc.purdue.edu
   >(Jeffrey Keller) says:
   >>Here is the NHL's latest realignment plan, currently under consideration:
   >>*'s are next to teams who would be switching divisions and new teams:
   >> ADAMS          PATRICK        NORRIS         SMYTHE
   >> -------------  -------------  -------------  -------------
   >> Boston        *Miami          Chicago       *Anaheim
   >> Buffalo        New Jersey     Detroit        Calgary
   >> Hartford       N Y Islanders  Minnesota      Edmonton
   >> Montreal       N Y Rangers   *Pittsburgh     Los Angeles
   >> Ottawa         Philadelphia   St. Louis      San Jose
   >> Quebec        *Tampa Bay     *Winnipeg       Vancouver
   >>*Toronto        Washington
   >Yeah I saw this in today's USA Today and I think it's bunch of
   >@#$%!!!  As a season ticket holder of the Penguins, I want to see
   >the Rangers, Devils, Capitals, Islanders, and Flyers 7-9 times a
   >year.  I don't want to see the Blues, Blackhakws, Jets, etc.
   >People in Pittsburgh raised hell and threatened to cancel their
   >season tickets when the Penguins sucked about 7 years back and
   >wanted to move to the Norris.  Each division plays its own style
   >of hockey.  Put Anaheim in the Smythe and Miami in the Norris
   >(gives that division someone to beat up on) is my proposal.  Leave
   >everything else alone.


   No.  Buffalo and Montreal would both love to have the Leafs in the
   Adams, or whatever they plan to call the division (I've heard northern
   mentioned). The rivalry that used to exist is still there, but not
   what it could be.

Montreal has the advantage of being part of some major historical
rivalries: with Toronto, with Quebec, with Boston...


On a related note, has anyone read anything about a bizarre proposal
about splitting the NHL into an American and a Canadian League,
thereby guaranteeing a USA-CANADA Stanley Cup Final?  The story I read
(cannot remember where) mentioned this as an aid to potential European
integration.


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From: blob@gallant.apple.com (Brian Bechtel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: San Jose Arena--completion date in jeopardy
Date: 23 Jan 93 04:18:59 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.

J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:

>   I heard during intermission of last night's Sharks-Whalers game that the
>construction of the San Jose arena will likely not be completed by the sched-
>uled date in June.  Apparently, the construction was flying along on schedule,
>but that the recent rains in San Jose (we've had 17 straight days with at least
>some rain) will prevent any more construction in the next 30 days.

>   If the arena isn't finished soon after June, it will mean another season in
>the Cow Palace (and more hour-long drives...sigh).  

This was on all the local news stations last night.  The opening will be
delayed 30 days.  The Sharks opening night is not currently threatened.
If our weather continues to look like that of Seattle, then it may
affect the Sharks.

--Brian Bechtel     blob@apple.com     "My opinion, not Apple's"
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:38:51 -0500 
From: "James J. Murawski" <jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: ESPN gets 2 periods
	<1993Jan25.011231.6070@news.columbia.edu>
Distribution: na


On 25-Jan-93 in Re: ESPN gets 2 periods      
user Gary L Dare@cunixb.cc.co writes:
>Since the Rangers were on MSG, we had Penguins at Flames in the metro
>New York region using KBL's raw feed w/ESPN graphics (a la SC using
>CBC West during the playoffs).  After Mike Gartner's goal, I would
>have thought that ESPN would switch over to their alternate game 'cos
>Joe Neiwendyk had a penalty shot on Ken Wregget (who had Neiwendyk
>scratching his own back with a hacksaw -- I really thought it would
>have gone in!!!), then a FRANTIC final few minutes afterward.  

Actually, ESPN did switch live to the Pens/Flames game for Nieuwendyk's
penalty shot.  I was watching the Pens game on KDKA, but during stoppages in
play I'd switch over to ESPN to catch a several seconds of the Kings/Rangers
game.  While Nieuwendyk was waiting to take his penalty shot, I switched
over to ESPN and they also had Nieuwendyk waiting to take the shot.

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