From: ddebry@itchy.dsd.es.com (David DeBry)
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.graphics.animation & vote ACK
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Date: 14 Aug 92 20:10:10 GMT
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	This is the second CALL FOR VOTES (CFV) for
comp.graphics.animation.  A vote ACK (sans yay or nay) is included.
Please check the list to make sure your vote was registered.

        Several existing newsgroups cover topics that are small parts
of computer graphics animation, but no one group ties all these
together, or discusses several points that are unique to this medium.
Also, the use of computer animation has seen an incredible increase in
the past couple of years, and is now prevalent in everyday visual
media.  A forum for discussion and advancement of this topic is needed.

	One month ago an RFD was posted concerning the creation of the
UNMODERATED newsgroup comp.graphics.animation.  Some discussion
occurred (concerning pre-recorded animation vs. real-time animation,
what level of machines the newsgroup would cover, and whether artistic
quality should be discussed), and the charter was modified and
reposted.  Since that time, there have been no more arguments, so I
assume the matter settled.

	The finalized charter is included in this message below.  If
you wish to see all of the discussion that occurred in news.groups
concerning comp.graphics.animation, please email me (ddebry@dsd.es.com)
and I'll mail you the entire, unedited debate.

	Voting on the creation of the newsgroup comp.graphics.animation:

	To vote YES, send mail to cga-yes@dsd.es.com
	To vote NO, send mail to cga-no@dsd.es.com

	Anything in the subject line or body of the message will be
considered comments and, as such, ignored.

	The voting period begins August 3, 1992, and ends September 4,
1992 at 11:59pm MDT.

	Occasional reposts of this CFV with a list of names ack'ing
votes will be posted during the voting period.  Actual vote totals
will not be disclosed until after the end of the polling period.


Charter for comp.graphics.animation
-----------------------------------
|	comp.graphics.animation will be a newsgroup where discussion
| of the techinical aspects and technique of computer animation will
| take place.  This *DOES* include (but is not limited to) such topics
| as:
|
| 	1] Hardware and software used for an end result of a computer
| animated sequence.  These include modellers, renderers, animators,
| etc.  This topic, however, is limited by a mention later in the
| charter concerning threads that become TOO system specific.
|
|	2] Application of knowledge of other types of more "standard"
| or "formal" animation to computer animation.
|
|	3] Discussion of the technical aspects or techniques used to
| generate existing computer animations.
|
|	4] Forums for showing your own work and viewing other's
| animations.  IE: Film & video shows/contests/competitions.  It's often
| hard to know where to look to see computer animation, or where to get
| your own work shown to the public.  Hopefully this will alleviate some
| of the problem.
|
|	This *DOES NOT* include (and is not limited to) such topics as:
|
|	1] Pure artistic commentary on an existing animation.  (IE:
| "The computer animation in that movie was great!")  SOME artistic talk
| is allowed (actually, encouraged), but only for the purpose of leading
| to (or working in sync with) a more techinical discussion (IE: "How
| did they do that nifty computer animation?").  After all, this is a
| comp. group.  If you want to discuss just artistic merit, please do!
| (I'll probably join you!), but do it in a rec.arts. group.
| 
| 	2] Highly system specific conversations.  If a thread becomes
| too dependant on a certain software package or hardware setup, it will
| be encourgaed to move to the appropriate comp. or comp.sys group.
|
|	Obviously, since the group is not moderated, it will be
| impossible to keep conversations topical.  However, posters will be
| encouraged (by means of some mention in the newsgroup's FAQ) to take
| their discussions to a more suitable newsgroup.

	Any inquiries concerning the vote should be directed to
ddebry@dsd.es.com.

Vote ACK  --  Alphabetical order, votes unlisted, duplicates removed.
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a985700@vax.csc.cuhk.hk
Alison Rebecca Colman <ac10+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Andrew Stoker <mac742@central1.lancaster.ac.uk>
andrews@csexp1.enet.dec.com
andy@eos.research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman)
apian@ise.fhg.de
aschaffe@holodeck.csd.sgi.com (Allan Schaffer)
axolotl@socs.uts.EDU.AU
Barry Douglas Ferg <ferg@unixg.ubc.ca>
bcurrey@neumann.une.oz.au (The Ray)
B.J.  10-Aug-1992 1306 <herbison@erlang.enet.dec.com>
Bjorn Knutsson  <bjorn@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE>
bobl@bobsbox.rent.com (Bob Lindabury - SysAdmin)
bosch@smiteo.esd.sgi.com (Derek Bosch)
C D Osland <CDO%IBM-B.RUTHERFORD.AC.UK@ib.rl.ac.uk>
Chad Faragher <icfaragh@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
cheekin@flash.swl.spec.ptg.sony.co.jp (Tang Chee Kin)
Chris Landreth <landreth@ncsc.org>
Chris Lilley <lilleyc@computer-science.manchester.ac.uk>
chris@sarah.lerc.nasa.gov (Chris Johnston)
cindy@caspian.gsfc.nasa.gov (Cindy Starr)
colinm@canon.co.uk (Colin McCartney)
COLLIN MCCULLEY <V148RB5B@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu>
co@mednet.gu.se (Christer Olsson)
Cormac.Sreenan@cl.cam.ac.uk
crb11@cus.cam.ac.uk (Colin Bell)
curts@tmpcu.mdc.com (Curt Schroeder)
cwf@jupiter.risc.rockwell.com (Craig Farley)
daniel@bandelier.cs.unm.edu (Tommie Daniel)
danj1@ihspa.att.com (Dan Jacobson)
Dave Disser <disser@engin.umich.edu>
"Dave Thomas" <dcthomas@vnet.ibm.com>
ddebry@itchy (David DeBry)
dedmunds@sfu.ca
derek@math.ufl.edu
Dr Y.M. Engel - The Hebrew University <ENGEL@HUJIVMS.HUJI.AC.IL>
earrond@mars.calstatela.edu (El Cid)
edsr!jem@uunet.UU.NET (John E. Mendenhall)
efo@pixar.com (Eben Ostby)
Eric Hunt <bsc835!ehunt@uunet.UU.NET>
explorer@iastate.edu
exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague)
fan@tammy.cath.puh.upmc.edu (Ningping Fan)
flynn@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Patrick J. Flynn)
formella@cs.uni-sb.de (Arno Formella)
Frank Neumann <Frank.Neumann@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de>
g89s9112@alpha.ru.ac.za (Dirk Sturzebecher)
Gess Shankar <gess@knex.gwinnett.COM>
glewis@pcocd2.intel.com (Glenn M. Lewis ~)
Graham Dunnett <grahamd@eaps.sussex.ac.uk>
grieggs@devvax.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (John T. Grieggs)
guenter@prism.gatech.edu (Brian Guenter)
Hamish_Hubbard@kcbbs.gen.nz (Hamish Hubbard)
Hans-Martin Werner <martin@cui.unige.ch>
hardaker@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Wes Hardaker)
Hubert Bartels <hgb@catalina.opt-sci.arizona.edu>
hyper!bonneau (Paul Bonneau)
Jari Toivanen <tene@tarzan.jyu.fi>
Jeff Butterworth <butterwo@cs.unc.edu>
jesup@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
jgannon@cs.UMD.EDU (James J. Gannon)
jms@tardis.Tymnet.COM (Joe Smith)
joe@solomon.technet.sg (Joseph Doo)
john@csrnxt1.ae.utexas.edu (John R. Schutz)
johne@iti.gov.sg (Dr. John S. Eickemeyer)
Jonas Yngvesson <jonas-y@isy.liu.se>
JONESD@topaz.ucq.edu.au
jong@autodesk.com (Jon Gillispie)
Juhani Vaittinen <vaittine@jyu.fi>
ked01@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Kim DeVaughn)
keith@elvis.tgivan.wimsey.bc.ca (Keith Vincent)
kkrishna@mipos2.intel.com (Krishna Kalidindi)
kodiak@doc.ksu.ksu.edu (Bryan D. Nehl)
koller@ips.id.ethz.ch
kpennick@cocoon.boeing.com (Keith Pennick)
kwangwoo@grad1.cis.upenn.edu (Kwangwoo Lee)
Larry Coffin <lcoffin@clciris.chem.umr.edu>
Larry Gritz <gritz@seas.gwu.edu>
Lee Thompson-Herbert <lee@soda.berkeley.edu>
Lew Hitchner <hitchner@riacs.edu>
Mark S Davidson <davidson@cs.ubc.ca>
Mark Thompson <mark@westford.ccur.com>
"Martin, Computer Graphics Unit" <PRESTON@VMSFE.MANCHESTER-COMPUTING-CENTRE.AC.UK>
Martin Friedmann <martin@media.mit.edu>
Marty.Milette@Software.Mitel.COM (Marty Milette)
marvinl@amber.rc.arizona.edu (Marvin Landis)
mcnabb@avl.UMD.EDU
Michael George Buening <mikeb@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu>
Michael Gleicher <gleicher@HOSTESS.GRAPHICS.CS.CMU.EDU>
Michael Robb <michaelr@spider.co.uk>
miles.miles.com!sjm@homebase.vistachrome.com (Scott Mark)
mitch@novavax.nova.edu (Mitch Silverman)
mlewis@cgrg.ohio-state.edu (Matt Lewis)
Moccozet Laurent <moccozet@cui.unige.ch>
mooring@antares.Tymnet.COM (Ed Mooring)
msnider@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com (Marc A. Snider x0193)
mt87692@cs.tut.fi (Mikko Tsokkinen)
mvr@mlb.dmt.csiro.au
mz@ilfb03.tuwien.ac.at (Marcus Zelezny)
ncc1701@rpi.edu
neves@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (David Neves)
Nick Oddson <njoddson@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
nok@vision.auc.dk
ojt@cs.brown.edu (Oren J. Tversky)
Ophir Prusak <s1369046@techst02.technion.ac.il>
pap@moscom.com (Patrick Palmer)
pat@anacapa.ncel.navy.mil (Pat Kane)
patrick@shamrck.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Patrick Arial)
pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard )
Peter Arien <LAAAA43%BLEKUL11.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
"Peter Mitchell" <peterm@carr.yorku.ca>
podlipec@dgxyris.webo.dg.com (Mark Podlipec)
ppgfr!wolpert (Florian Wolpert)
psjmt@cc.flinders.edu.au (J.Tizard)
Ralf Dreier <dreier@winfo.fb5.uni-siegen.de>
rcgaym@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Angus Y. Montgomery)
rchann@eleceng.ee.queensu.ca (Robert Chann)
reg@sdchemw2.ucsd@chem.UCSD.EDU (Richard E. Gillilan)
reid@sunpix.East.Sun.COM (Reid Judd - Sun NC Development Center)
Rick Speer <speer@anchor.cs.colorado.edu>
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
rjt@ornl.gov (Ross J. Toedte)
RM5I@VM.OP.DLR.DE
rmrohre@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Randy M. Rohrer)
Robert Letterman <robertl@skat.usc.edu>
Rod.Holland@East.Sun.COM (Rod Holland - Sun BOS Software)
Ronald Kunenborg <rkunenbo@cs.ruu.nl>
rosalee@retina.depaul.edu (Rosalee Nerheim-Wolfe)
rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Richard Kulawiec)
rthomson@mesa.dsd.ES.COM (Rich Thomson)
rtipnis@maxine.WPI.EDU (Rajeev Tipnis)
rwebb@nyx.cs.du.edu (Russell Webb)
sass@cps.msu.edu
sbg@fox-in.socs.uts.EDU.AU (Stephen Gowing)
schloss@marlin.nosc.mil (Tom Schlosser)
Sean Lange <sean@camscan.co.uk>
seshadri@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Sridhar Seshadri)
sgp@phyast.nhn.uoknor.edu (Steven G. Parker)
spl@szechuan.UCSD.EDU (Steve Lamont)
sridhar@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman )
sseelema@visions.UVic.CA (Sven  Seelemann)
Stephen Bohus <clr@dgp.toronto.edu>
Stephen Lines (Spraxlo) <srl@media-lab.mit.edu>
Steve Franks <stevef@csl.sony.co.jp>
stw7228@ultb.isc.rit.edu (S.T. Willis)
Sven Heinicke <sven@cs.widener.edu>
swildner@channelz.GUN.de (Sascha Wildner)
TC <SH7126146@NTUVAX.NTU.AC.SG>
Teemu Mottonen <tmottone@cc.helsinki.fi>
thalli@piis10.joanneum.ac.at (Georg Thallinger (IIS))
tinman@metheus.com (David Tin Nyo)
tnc!m0039@uunet.uu.net
Tom Crockett <tom@icase.icase.edu>
tsca02!snyde_sl@uunet.UU.NET (Steve Snyder)
tvf@sunsrvr1.cci.com (Tom Frauenhofer)
uucp!rdb@relay.nluug.nl (The Graphical Gnome)
Vincent Ibeachum <vincei@cix.compulink.co.uk>
wangc@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Carol Wang)
webb@tsavo.hks.com (Peter Webb)
"Well howdy there pardner ...." <BOWESA@topaz.ucq.edu.au>
william@cs.anu.edu.au (William Sun)
wlarkin@panix.com (Ward Larkin)
Woll Newall <woll@lightwork.co.uk>
wp16@prism.gatech.edu (Ed Price)
young@chama.eece.unm.edu (Mark Young)
zik@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Michael Saleeba [Zik])


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