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From: stan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Stan Twiefel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PC SIMMs in a mac?
Keywords: PC SIMMs in Mac?
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:50:54 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <BxvBCs.2vE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cole@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Sandra Stewart-Cole) writes:
>In <laug.721874522@sfu.ca> laug@fraser.sfu.ca (Christopher Lau) writes:
>
>You were told wrong. PC SIMMs have an extra chip on them for parity checking. 
>This means they usually cost about 15% more. They CAN generally be used in a 
>Mac however, if you happen to have a few hanging around. There are of course 
>always speed considerations, and you CANNOT use a Mac SIMM in a PC.
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

<Beep>  Wrong answer.

Apparently many of the new PC's (especially those with an AMI bios) have the
ability to turn off parity checking, and then you can use Mac simmsin a PC.
My x-roommate, in fact, had 4 megs of parity-checking RAM and 4 megs of 
non-parity-checking RAM (Mac simms) in his 386, and it worked fine.. he
had to boot the thing with only parity-checking RAM and turn off the parity
checking in the ROM setup, but then he installed the Mac simms and had 8 megs.
The only problems he really ran into were installing OS/2, but then, what
else would you expect from an OS from IBM?  Actually, he somehow got that to
work, too, and as far as i know, he's still running it that way..

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: isr@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Michael S. Schechter - ISR group account)
Subject: Re: Re: Lifetime of 25MHz IIsi (was: 25MHz IIsi and my engineering friend)
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 10:41:15 EST

In article <71610001@hpl-otis.hpl.hp.com> blalock@hpl-otis.hpl.hp.com (Travis Blalock) writes:
>In comp.sys.mac.hardware, isr@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Michael S. Schechter - ISR group account) writes:
>
>> they'll be more voltrage drop, and the CPU will draw still more amperage,
>
>Ack!  Less voltage --> lower current
>
>Actually, in the CMOS case, the output capacitances have to be charged to
>lower voltages when the supply voltage decreases.  As a consequence the
>average current goes down.  Unfortunately, the max speed of the logic gate

Some people just don't recognize good fiction... A little too much
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Sean McMains <mcmains@unt.edu>
Subject: Re: Has anyone already received a IIvxCD, Avg. Mean time?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7341FE1AE030205@isbdeskmac.acs.unt.edu>
X-Xxdate: Sat, 21 Nov 92 10: 18:25 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:18:02 GMT

In article <92323.175915IO92668@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> ,
IO92668@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:
>I ordered it through our campus reseller.  Can anyone give me an Idea
>of how long I must wait until it arrives.

Delivery of systems is often around four weeks, though it will vary
according to the machine's availability. Your best bet would be to ask
your campus reseller -- they should be able to give you a good idea of
when to expect it.
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Reason is idiocy." - C.S. Lewis
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From: glgyhrb@otago.ac.nz (Hyram Ballard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: HELP! Personal LW RAM upgrade.
Date: 17 Nov 92 11:44:19 +1300
Organization: Dept. of Geology, Univ. of Otago, NZ

Can anyone tell me what sort of RAM goes into a Personal LaserWriter? It
apparently comes out of the box with 512K and can be upgraded to 1M. Can it use
two 256K SIMMs out of an old Mac Plus to get it to 1M?
Thanks in advance for the info and I can't wait to fire up the soldering iron
to get on with a IIsi oscillator swap!!
Hyram.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: morgan@leland.Stanford.EDU (RL "Bob" Morgan)
Subject: Duo 230 lack-of-power-Book ...
Organization: Networking Systems, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 05:23:39 GMT


So there I am bloating with pride as I go to the Stanford Bookstore to
pick up my new PowerBook Duo 230 which will change my life.  And there
I am opening the box in front of my envious colleagues as I explain
how it's the latest coolest thing.  And there I am, getting more and
more puzzled and worried as I keep pushing the Power button and
nothing happens.  I hear snickering  in the background ...

So I plug in the power adapter (and thank you Apple, for giving it a
proper cord so the transformer doesn't cover four slots on the outlet
strip), and after hitting both the power buttons many more times
finally it starts up, and it's pretty slick.  I load many files into
it via LocalTalk and head home.

When I get home it has a little trouble powering up again, but then
it's OK.  I plug in the power adapter and do some work.  Imagine my
chagrin when the "Battery is low.  Plug in power adapter now!" message
comes on the screen.  I shut down, fiddle with the power cord, move it
to a socket that I'm sure is working.  Now the Mac doesn't start up
from the Power button, but does when I wiggle the power cord.  I'm
beginning to get the picture, and it isn't pretty.  Eventually the Mac
gives up the ghost when the battery runs down completely.

Now I guess I wasn't really surprised when, the next day, the
Bookstore said "Sorry sir, but the one-year warranty goes into effect
when you pick up the machine!"  And I guess I don't really have the
balls to go there and just fucking take a new one like I feel I have
every right to.  I've observed this "you bought it, you lose" policy
in the computer biz before and have been amazed that we let them get
away with it.  So here's a question for the masses: Do most Apple
dealers refuse to replace DOA units, instead offering to fix them
("shouldn't be more than a week or ten days") "free of charge!"  ??

I put in a call to Apple, and got referred to their special
PowerBook/Performa answer line.  Eventually an Apple person said that
returning it to the factory would probably be the quickest, and they
would send a shipping carton to me pronto.  At this point I'm getting
a little suspicious.

Today the shipping guy arrives with a special shipping box designed to
take a PowerBook DuoCorpse and its PowerLess adapter.  I comment that
they must have quite a few of these if they have gone to the trouble
of making special packaging.  He says "more than you want to know."
So my next question to the masses is: Have others had this sort of
problem with Duos?  Are their failure rates known to be high?

The worst thing was the shipping guy said "Oh they turn 'em around
pretty fast.  The problem is when they have to go back more than once
..."

More news as it happens.

 - RL "Bob" Morgan
   Networking Systems
   Stanford

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: tpang@fraser.sfu.ca (Tsui Ting Debbie Pang)
Subject: Re: Hook a 16" SVA to Powerbook, Duodock or Quadra??
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:34:14 GMT

Mike Wiese <mikew@apple.com> writes:
>also support SVGA. Note that since IBM didn't establish SVGA as a
>standard, there is more than one type of SVGA, so your mileage may vary.

>One cool thing about Macs is they automatically adjust to the type of
>monitor that is connected. For info about this, there's a new Tech note
>titled "Sense Lines" that explains all about it. If you need to build
>an adapter to use a non Apple monitor, check it out.

>mike wiese

SVGA could also mean 1024x768, interlace or not. There is no standard as
you said. That's the reason I hate to refer any monitor as VGA, SVGA,
interlace ,non-interlace, which all don't mean anything. VGA is a graphics
standard, and has nothing to do with monitor.But because of the popularity
of the clone world, we have to suffer from bad term "standards".

David Tse
From: w.l.vaughn@LaRC.NASA.GOV (Wallace L. Vaughn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Help: failed to stall system on a HD
Date: 16 Nov 1992 13:32:30 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: w.l.vaughn@LaRC.NASA.GOV (Wallace L. Vaughn)
NNTP-Posting-Host: b1205amac8.larc.nasa.gov

 (Victor Der-Thanq Chen writes

>Help!

>My 105M HD worked just fine with my IIsi.  But I decided to use the IIsi for
>some other thing.  So, I bought a used Plus.  After I connected the HD to the
>Plus and turn it on, the Plus refused to boot up.  The error message I got 
>was
>that the HD was not formatted for this machine.

>No problem.  I can reinstall the system again.  So, I got my old system 7 
>disks
>and try to install the system again.  No good luck.  The installer told me 
>that
>it cannot install system, please remove the old system first. 

>No problem.  I got an old system 6 start up disk to boot up the whole sytem 
>and
>successfully remove the old system.  I use the installer again.  No good 
>luck.
>I got the same message that installer cannot intall system on to the HD.  It
>suggested me to remove the old system.

>But, I don't have system on my HD anymore.  I am confused.  Can anyone help 
>me
>to figure out what's wrong with my HD?

The error message you reported said to reformat the disk, which from the rest 
of your question I gather has not been done. Back up your HD then Find the HD 
setup program for the 105M HD and reformat the disk with a 3:1 interleave 
factor, or, some setup programs will just list the type of computers. Due to 
the Plus's slow SCSI interface many drives work much better at 3:1 instead of 
the more typical 1:1 used for most macs since the Mac II. (Someone more 
competent may wish to explain the details of interleave). After reformating 
you should be able to install the System 7 software. 
I hope this helps

Wally Vaughn
Dislaimer The above is my opinion not NASA's or the US Governments
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: world
From: Joe_D._Ciarcia@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:59:18 EST
Subject: Re: Sticky Mouse Button, Other ADB (Keyboard) Problems

I have an older Mac SE (800k drive) and I have had the same "sticky mouse
problem".  It only happens to me when I'm reading a lot of text.  When I click
in the scroll bar to move down a page maybe 7 or 8 times the mouse seems to
"lock" and it scrolls continuously until I move the mouse out of the scroll
bar.    Tell me what ya find out I'd be interested to know.  Joe C.
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From: pierce@radius.com (Pierce T. Wetter III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: radius rocketshare
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:59:18 GMT
Organization: Skylab Team

In article <timmbake.722049647@mcl> Bake Timmons, timmbake@mcl.ucsb.edu
writes:
>>Works pretty good, but not as an accelerator. The Rocket works as
another
>>macintosh that you can delegate background tasks to. (Printing,
>>compiling, etc.)
>>That is, you have TWO macintohes.
>>
>>RocketWARE 2.0 will allow you to use your Rocket 33 as an accelerator
>>(that is,
>>you have ONE FAST macintosh), its in beta test right now.
>>

>Excuse me, but what exactly do you mean use the Rocket 33 as an
accelerator?
>Already the Rocket is an accelerator, so do you mean that it+native
processor
>splits up the work on an application, so that it becomes, in effect,
faster
>than the Rocket 33 _BEFORE_ RocketWare 2.0?
>

We now have TWO pieces of Rocket software. RocketWARE, and RocketSHARE.
'WARE is provided with your Rocket, 'SHARE is $499 extra, and can support
as many
Rockets as your power supply can handle.

'WARE, takes your first Rocket, and uses it to accelerate. 'WARE 2.0 is a
complete
overhaul of the 1.x software. Sound is MUCH improved, it uses the
"Macintosh 
Software Technology" we licensed from Apple, and in general works much
better then
1.x.

'SHARE launches each Rocket as a seperate computer. For each Rocket in
your system,
you effectively have another macintosh. Each Rockets appears as if it
connected
to your main computer over AppleTalk. Its screen appears in a scrolling,
printable 
window. (You can even use Macsbug.) It also uses the "Macintosh Software
Technology"
we licensed. You can use File Sharing between them, System 7 IAC, the
whole shebang.

Using 'WARE 2.0 & 'SHARE, lets you use the first Rocket as an
accelerator, and the
other Rockets as 'SHARE Rockets.

Now, to answer your question, if you have RocketShare, you can
parallelize your
work in three ways:

1. By hand. (Just as if you had two computers.)
2. Automatically using a program that can distribute its workload using
IAC.
    (StrataVision, RayDream, Infini-D, NetBuild)
3. Using Publish & Subscribe.

>Also, does RocketWare 2.0 correct any of the incompatibilities running
certain
>sound programs, Quicktime 1.5, or Macintosh Common Lisp 2.0?  In
particular,
>my Rocket 25 (_not_ 25i) crashes under Macintosh Common Lisp 2.0.

   QuickTime 1.5: Yes.
   
   MCL 2.0: Don't know.

>Finally, is there any internet or BBS access to those who need to
upgrade their
>RocketWare to 2.0? If possible, how could I be eligible to beta-test
RocketWare
>2.0?

2.0 isn't out yet.

We're in the process of getting connected to the internet. When we are,
there will
be a radius ftp site. Its also available on AOL, CompuServe, AppleLink.

You can get RocketShare from most Radius dealers, mail order etc.

Our beta site list is full, and it will be out by the time I could get
you on the
list anyway.

Pierce
From: kim@oasys.dt.navy.mil (John Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: MS serial mouse on Mac Plus?
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:03:44 GMT
Reply-To: kim@oasys.dt.navy.mil (John Kim)
Distribution: na
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Annapolis, MD


   Have anyone tried to use a MS serial mouse into old Mac plus port? 
The MS serial mouse has 9 pin connector and so is Mac plus mouse. If
MS serial mouse can use on Mac Plus, do I need a MS mouse driver for 
Mac? Could I get it via ftp?

John Kim
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Do you REALLY need a coprocessor? was(Duo opinions wanted)
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:02:44 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

David_A._Schnider@bmug.org writes:

>I don't have a coprocessor in my LC, and if I buy a PB160 it won't be able to
>hold one.  The only thing I truly want it for is the Satori AD module.

    You want to use Satori on a 4-bit Grayscale LCD display? WHY?!

--
-Brian V. Hughes
	"Young children should not to try this kind of thing at home.
	    		Use a friend's home."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: mike@wang.com (Mike Sullivan)
Subject: Re: Error codes for Mac SE - help please!
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:05:30 GMT
Keywords: SE error codes

rsch2867@cl2.cl.uh.edu (Brownfield, George/RICHERT, NO) writes:

>Greetings oh Mac net gods!  This humble techno-flunkie requests
>divine intervention of your soothsaying capabilities!

>I have a sometimes living, sometimes dead Mac SE FDHD that seems

>00 00 00 02        00 00 00 03       00 00 00 0E
>00 00 00 01        00 00 00 01       00 00 00 01

The first two codes ( 0002 and 0003 ) indicate a RAM failure in Bank B, the
01 indicates that bit 0 has a fault.

The 000E indicates that the machine failed the Data Bus test.  The 01 indicates
the problem is in bit 0.  This may indicate a bad SIMM or a data bus failure.
Try swapping the SIMMs in bank B and see if the failure moves.

For further diagnosis look into purchasing Peace of Mind, the complete
Macintosh hardware diagnostic from Polybus  ($99 US through December 31st)
This application is easy to use and will give you clear and precise information
on which SIMM is failing.  It also tests all your other hardware.  For more
info and ordering call 800-695-4239

>PS - for bonus points, a Mac SE where my wife works is giving:

>00 00 00 05      and  00 00 00 0E
>02 00 02 00           00 00 02 00

code 0005 indicates a failure in the RAM external addressing test. The 02000200
indicates which lines failed.  

code 000E indicates a data bus failure.  The 00000200 indicates which line 
failed.  In this case it is more likely a bad connection to the CPU.  Inspect
corresponding lines for breaks or shorts.

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>Math Undergrad @ Univ. of Houston-Clear Lake          Against
>Techno-flunkie, Space Industries Inc.                 Drunk
>If you drink, DON'T Derive!                           Deriving

Yes I work for Polybus.
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From: calypso@stein.u.washington.edu (Kent Shih)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Unpredictable bombs & freezes on SE/30 HELP!
Keywords: bomb freeze memory logicboard SIMM SE/30
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:45:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov16.184504.15497
Organization: University of Washington

majnun@parrot.in-berlin.de (Albrecht Hofheinz) writes:

>I am desparate! My SE/30 keeps bombing, freezing, quitting
>"unexprectedly" &c, and I don't know why. I can exclude viruses, INIT
>conflicts and the like, but I'm not able to localize the problem
>exactly.
>
>More details: I have an SE/30 8-80 which ran fine until a couple of days
>ago. Then it started to behave weirdly. I bombed (most frequetly with
>"address error" or "bus error" or "Coprocessor not intalled"), or simply
>froze in the middle of nothing (i.e., even if I did not do anything,
>just like that). These errors were totally unpredictable (they could not
>be reproduced), they increased in frequency, they occurred during
>startup as well as some time afterwards, in other words, it was
>frightening.
>
>Possible reasons, I suspected: either a SIMM problem, or another problem
>on the logic board. 4 of the 8 MB of RAM I had installed myself, and
>used them for 2 years without"major" problems. That is, I did have
>problems, but was able to solve them. Twice during the past two years,
>the Mac would not boot and show its sad face instead. By opening the
>case and clossing it again (not more than that), the problem went away.
>So I tried to do the same now. I opened it, cleaned it a bit, and waited
>for the magic result. It worked, for a couple of hours. Then it froze
>again, and on rebooting showed the sad face, featuring the strings
>  0000000F
>  00000003


     Hey.. I have the same problem, too.  Does any one know what's wrong
     on with the HD or the computer itself is wrong..

               -kent
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: IIvx Keyboard Strangeness
From: benoist@netcom.com (Tom Benoist)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:25:41 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

I just purchased a IIvx.  
Ive noticed that with several programs (mostly games like Oids)
the keyboard doesnt seem to send the proper codes to the software.
Anyone else noticed this problem?
Some programs even pop up dialogs like:
"dont recognize your keyboard layout"
I'd be interested to know what changed and if theres a
software fix to correct it.

Also, just my 2 cents, but (Flame on) the new standard keyboard layout 
REALLY sucks.  I wonder who the moran designer was who decided the
escape key would take up less space if it was to the right of
the space bar.  I'd return it and buy an extended if the UC-irvine
nazi apple store didnt have a "Absolutely no return" policy.
(or it this a new Apple education policy)


Tom Benoist
benoist@netcom.com


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu (mark r rauschkolb)
Subject: Address for Shiva?
Reply-To: mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:12:11 GMT


	I have an old ethernet card made by Shiva, which doesn't seem
to be system 7 compatible.  Can somebody give me their number and
address so I can find out if they do trade-ins?

thaks

mrr1@ra.msstate.edu



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: cmmiller@iastate.edu (Chad M Miller)
Subject: Good modem for under $300
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:56:08 GMT

Basically, I will be using the modem to connect to my university's
unix system and download files, applications and pictures to my home
machine.  I will also be talking with people over the internet etc.  

Can a get a 9600 baud modem for under $300 and if not, what is a good
2400 baud modem for under $300.  

Any help and/or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Please
respond via email and I will summarize the suggestions if there are enough.  

Thanks in advance.  

Chad


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From: bic@cgl.ucsf.edu (Bruce Cohen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Formatted size of Apple 80MB Drive? (Q)
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:37:12 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab


	I just reformatted a vanilla Mac II si 80MB hard drive with the
disk tools from system 7.1.  The disk shows less than 76MB of formatted
capacity.  Have I lost disk space or is this normal?

	Thanks.

-Bruce


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