From: abbasa@ul.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: SAIED keeps contradicting himself
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:41:05 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

In article <saied.718914197@cwis>, saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:
> abbasa@ul.ie writes:
>>Saied always keeps contradicting himself.  Let us see an example. 
>>> 
>>> Kamran, you do not have to challenge me; I never said there
>>> were any Baha'i in the Mojahedin. The Mojahedin's ideology
>>> is Islam; thus for one to join the Mojahedin, he or she must
>>              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> first believe in Islam (and in the case of Baha'is, to embrace
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> Islam and leave baseless Baha'i religion behind).
> 
>>Here Saied says that Islam is precondition for any one to join
>>MKO.
> 
>>|> Now the idealogy. The Mojahedin believe firmly in Islam.
>>|> However, they do not impose their ideaology on others. They
>>|> also cooperate closely with groups or personalities who are
>>|> non-Muslims (and who are in fact non-believers). The majority
>>|> of the Mojahedin supporters are Muslims (or at least believe
>>|> in the legitimacy of Islam.) I am one of them. But believing
>>                                                  ^^^ ^^^^^^^
>>|> in Islam is not a prerequisite. There are MANY Mojahedin
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>|> supporters who do not believe in Islam.
>>|>
>> 
> 
>>Here Saied says Islam is not a precondition .
> 
>>Saied is it policy of MKO to use as much lies as possible to
>>achieve "islamic goal"
> 
>>If your organisation believes "firmly" in Islam, then please
>>answer the following questions from Koran and Hadith.
> 
>>1: Which constituents of the present  constitution of Iran are
>>   against Koran and Sunnah?  
> 
> For a dumb person who doesn't know the difference between
> *joining* and just *supporting* an organization and who
> wants to know which piece of the Khomeini regime's
> constitution is against "Islam" and "Qur'an", I have to
> say this "javAbe ahmaqAn khAmushist."

Now you are trying to play game of words. Although English is not
my first language, but I know the literal meanings of JOIN and SUPPORT at 
least.  I took implied meanings , as you had used word "support" for 
both Muslims and non-Muslims. Anyway, it is not my bussiness to know what is
the race, or colour, or religion of the members of MKO. I only try to see
whether their acts and practices conforms with Koran and sunnah, which you
claim they believe in.  It is clear to me like a shining sun that the whole 
MKO is a house of "KUFR" and "IRTAD".  You would know the punishment 
of a "MURTAD"?  They are just using name of islam to fool Muslims. In reality,
they are fooling themself.  Your absolute failure to answer my very simple 
questions in the light of Koran and Sunnah has further strenthened my belief.

In words Allama Iqbal Lahori, MKO is

Nang-i-Din, Nang-i-Millat, Nang-i-Vatan.

She is Nan-i-Din, as she is working against Islam by colloborating
with anti-islamic powers.

She is Nang-i-Millat and Nang-i-Vatan, as she sided Saddam in the war which
was meant to annihilate Iran and Iranian nation.  


     Saied, please, try to understand Koran and sunnah. Now is the time.
Please do "tauba". You will have go to the court of Allah, S.W.T., one day.
What would you reply to HIM? Stop working for an organisation which is leading
its members/supporers to eternal hell.

May God give you "taufiq" to understand "Haq".

Asad.

   
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