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From: philip@nexus.yorku.ca (Phil McDunnough)
Subject: Re: GTS at wuarchive
Organization: York University, CS Dept. Toronto
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:31:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.061313.5084@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> sulcer@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (PSYCHOTICS R US) writes:
>I have uploaded all the gts files I have to wuarchive in the pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS
>directory. 
>

But the files gtssam3.zip, 8 and 9 are empty! Before d/l'ing this again
it would be nice to know where to get the complete program.

Philip
philip@utstat.toronto.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.music,alt.binaries.sounds.d,alt.sb.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc
From: zstewart@nyx.cs.du.edu (Zhahai Stewart)
Subject: Re: More on MODEDIT/crippleware
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 02:18:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.020525.17052@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au> scarnie@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Stuart George Carnie) writes:
>This person who posted the message about _his_ definition of
>shareware is definately selfish on his part.  Just because the real-time
>entering of music will benefit him, he changes the definition of shareware to
>suit himself. (note this is not a flame, but just another view on the matter)

He didn't change the definition.  The last time I checked with ASP, the
Association of Shareware Professionals (and the largest organization of
shareware writers), they prohibited crippleware as ASP certified shareware.
Obviously, nobody is required to follow their rules in order to call their
product shareware, and I'm not trying to make any "moral point" that one
has to follow ASP guidelines - this is a matter of choice.

But the association that Shareware != Crippleware has a lot of historical
validity, and he didn't "change the definition of shareware to suit himself".
If anything, those selling crippleware as shareware are changing the 
definition (I am NOT disputing their right to market as they wish!).  And
ASP does define disabled commands in the crippleware category.

Unless they have changed; this is a year old.

Anyway, everybody can go back to marketing as they wish, flaming as they
wish, and redefining shareware as they wish; I just wanted to inject a bit
of historical accuracy with regard to the terminology.

PS: ASP has found that crippleware also doesn't tend to sell as well as real
shareware.  One could speculate on why, but that's their experience.  I still
support an author's right to decide on their own marketing, even if it may
hurt their sales more than help.  That's their call, not ours.
   ~z~

PPS: some authors define crippleware in between a demo (with serious limits
which make it usually unusable for real work/play) and full shareware (with
all functionality enabled).  From the description it sounds like ModEdit may
fit the crippleware category (albeit mild crippling), but is definitely
better than a demo!  Let's not insult it.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: rv@erix.ericsson.se (Robert Virding)
Subject: SoundBlaster V2 and fast machines
Nntp-Posting-User: rv
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:52:35 GMT

I have a SoundBlaster V2 which I am running on a 486 DX50. For most
games it seems to work OK, but for some games the card occasionally
produces funny noises, and on one game (Red Baron) I must run the card
in AdLib mode to get all the sounds. Also, the joystick port does not
work correctly when playing Red Baron. From the discussions I have
read this seems to depend on the processor/bus speed.

Is there anything to be done about this? Or must I get a new card? If
so which one? Since I don't *do* much with the soundcard except use it
for games I don't want to make big bucks for a replacement card. What
does the net suggest?

Robert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.music,alt.binaries.sounds.d,alt.sb.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc
From: grahj@gagme.chi.il.us (jim graham)
Subject: Re: More on MODEDIT/crippleware
Originator: grahj@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:21:50 GMT

again, when replying, if you want to be sure I see this, you might e-mail
a copy, since I don't get this group at home and often by the time I read
stuff here, I've missed some stuff due to the expiration of articles....

I'd just like to add a couple of comments to what I'd said before.  I
would cancel the other post and re-post the whole bit, but apparently,
the other post is nowhere to be found at the moment (yes, I tried).  so
I'm just following up right where I did before.....

first, I haven't seen MODEDIT at all.  based on the comments I've read
so far, I'm not sure if it's crippleware or not, but then, I don't really
have much need to create mod files right now (future?  perhaps....), so
it's really a moot point (to me, right now) --- my comments were more
general in nature.

my previous post was based on the general shareware vs crippleware idea,
and not so much this specific program.

but I will repeat one thing:  if, when trying out a piece of shareware,
there's a function listed in the features list that I want, and it doesn't
work when I try it (prior to paying anything), then I'm not going to assume
that it'll work later.

it's sort of a gray area, I know.  I prefer to avoid the whole mess when
releasing shareware myself by simply not crippling *ANY* features.  my
programs have a simple one-line message on the opening screen (which is
bypassed by pressing a key --- no delay timers, etc.) reminding the user
to register.  this also appears as a one-liner on the help screen and info
screen, and on the text displayed when the program exits.  when the user
registers, *ALL* of these are replaced by a ``registered to'' message.

just trying to clear up a few points.....  :-)
   --jim

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From: ghartzog@terapin.com (Garrett Hartzog)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: PAS16 and falcon3
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:26:11 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <1e13tmINNmjr@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, rxa21@po.CWRU.Edu (Ranjit
Annamalai) writes:
>
>I just got falcon3 and for the opening screen I only get silence.  There is
>no birds chirping and I don't hear the planes goe by or ANY speech in the
>game.  After the explosion the music starts.  Everythin is setup to run
>soundblaster but I can not get any speech to come through.  Actually what
>happens in the intro is that when there is a big sound there is just some
>gfarbled static.  I have had no problems with any other games that have
>speech or anthing like that.  And can anyone send me alist of all the games
>that supoort the PAS 16 as of now or will soon.  ALlso anything like the
>unreal demo (never got it to work w/o playing the individual pieces) that
>has pas16 support would also be nice.
You have to get an upgrade patch. Contact Spectrum Holobyte for info.

Garrett Hartzog
ghartzog@terapin.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: fabian@alkymi.unit.no (Fabian Gonzalez)
Subject: Re: Soundcard pseudo-adaptability
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 16:52:28 GMT

>Why is it the sound card makers are trying to throw everything in on
>one stinking card?  I feel as though they should try to improve the
>sound rather than develop a card which controls a non-standard SCSI, a
>non-standard MIDI, your dishwasher, your cable TV and your HD/FD at
>the same time.

I have always wondered the same thing. I also wonder why they don't include more
DACs on the card (like 4 for example). 4 DACs is great, because then you REALLY
can begin playing .MOD files. All this mixing stuff just sounds bad, and takes a
lot of processing time. Instead, they improve that lonely DAC until it has so
many weird specs that you don't recognize half of them. The AMIGA DACs are only 8
bit, but the point is.... there are 4 of them.. The AMIGA sound is just great.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: Re: GUS & SBPro
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 08:32:33 GMT

In article <102698@bu.edu> edwong@bu.edu (Edward Wong) writes:
>Can someone tell me how exactly can I have both GUS and SBP together?
>Which address is set to which card?

Try leaving your SBPro at its usual settings and configure the GUS around
them.  Give the GUS DMA channel 3, the high (i.e. >8) IRQs, and an address
not already taken.

Phat.
From: andyross@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Rossmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Visual Player 1.0
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 16:40:15 CST
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL

  I recently tried the Visual Player 1.0 that some posted here. It's works
quite nicely with my PAS 16. A nice bonus is that I can control my volume
while a .MOD is playing (most other .MOD players lock out any keys except
what it itself is using.)

  VP1 also runs under OS/2, with only one minor quirk. The speaker either
clicks or squeals while it's playing. You can fix this by setting the
HW_NOSOUND setting to OFF.

  Another interesting thing is that if the computer is 'overloaded' the
mixing rate slowly drops ON IT'S OWN! It doesn't seem to go back up,
though.

  So far, it appears to play most every .MOD correctly that I've thrown at
it.

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From: smithb@cognos.com (Brad Smith)
Subject: Re: Win 3.1 and Playroom or KidPix
Organization: Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa CANADA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:46:38 GMT

In article <e9HkuB2w165w@salzo.Cary.NC.US> tom@salzo.Cary.NC.US (Tom Salzmann) writes:
>I have a SBPRO card, win 3.1, and the Broderbund games Playroom and
>Kidpix.  I cannot get these to work in a DOS session.  The game will make
>an initial sound and then freeze up.  Am I missing some trick?  Windows is
>set up to use the sounds of Ta-da and others.  Recoder, wave player, etc
>all work fine.  Any ideas?
>
>These games run fine in real DOS or in an OS/2 DOS box.
>
No can do. Windows does *not* virtualize the sound driver, so you cannot run a
DOS SB program from within Windows. The only exception that I'm aware of (but
have yet to test) is the Pro Audio Spectrum cards using the latest drivers.

The trick *I* used with KidPix is to set it up to use the speaker driver. It's
not *quite* as neato, but it will allow you to do what you want.

Later;
Brad.
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From: mtichy@fraser.sfu.ca (Martin Tichy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Anyone heard Ultrasound & Star Control 2?
Date: 23 Nov 92 08:17:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: sfu.1992Nov23.081754.15507
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

> > Are you working on a GUS specific mod player?
> >  
> 
> Actually we are, along with a GUS music editor which supports
> loading and  saving of MODs but also has MIDI and 32 channel
> support.
 
Sounds exciting.  Is this going to commercial or shareware 
software?  Possible release dates?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.os.os2.apps
From: dabl2@nlm.nih.gov (Don A.B. Lindbergh)
Subject: Re: Sound Cards under OS/2
Keywords: OS/2 PAS
Organization: National Library of Medicine
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 16:04:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.164915.26276@news.columbia.edu> you write:
>Has anyone gotten the PAS16 section working under OS/2?

Nope.  Nobody can until proper drivers come out.

>Has anyone tried the GUS under OS/2?

Don't know, saw a post indicating problems.  But the GUS apprently uses
*software* (yuck) to emulate an SB, which will always be ugly, even under
real DOS.

>The SB 16?

Don't know for sure, think it probably works fine, like the SB does.

>
>My PAS16 SB section works fine in DOS box under OS/2.
>The PAS section loops forever no matter what interrupt I try.

Yep.

>Does anyone know anything about OS/2 drivers which are supposed to be released
>for these cards?

Well, we've both posted on the MV BBS.  I heard an ugly rumour that they are
stalling on the OS/2 stuff in favor of NT.  Personally, I plan to give them
alot of shit if they don't come out with the promised OS/2 drivers.  They
announced them, they better deliver.  They have been crappy about releasing
ANY information AT ALL about the planned drivers, and their customer service 
and technical support has been getting a bad rap for not calling people back.
To be fair, I think the product is excellent and they have become VERY popular
and no doubt have been inundated with calls from newbies.  On the other hand,
they send out buggy software and the manual seems to confuse many people.
Really I think it is the marketing department who is calling the shots here...
Anyway, I say post on their BBS and make 'em come up with the drivers.
Also make them aware of the many thousands of people who are going to see posts
about it if they abandon the OS/2 folks.

--Don Lindbergh
dabl2@lhc.nlm.nih.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: dantonio@magick.enet.dec.com (David D'Antonio)
Subject: Re: SB16 OR GUS
Reply-To: dantonio@flashy.tay2.dec.com
Organization: None to speak of...
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 23:47:40 GMT


In article <1992Nov20.212614.29090@watson.ibm.com>, adkinsg@watson.ibm.com writes:
|>>>As asked on this news group 1000's of times..........
|>>>
|>>>I am getting a soundcard should I buy a GUS or SB16?
|>>>
|>>>
|>>The SB16 sounds like more of the same (FM synthesis, dumb DAC, etc.).
|>>The GUS offers a superior way to generate music, with superior results.
|>>
|>
|>
|>I'd recommend the PAS16 or the SB16.  The SB 16 is nice because of the 
|>daughtercards that it can support.  The PAS and GUS don't.  The PAS16 (or +)
|>is nicer for the SB emulation, a bit better supported.  Many many more PAS
|>cards around than GUS.  I'd recommend most to stay away from the GUS for
|>a while, anyway.  It's a tad hokey at this point.

Geez, don't you check your facts before blindly posting? Of course,
not, this is USENET! Anyway, the GUS can and does support
daughterboards, specifically, 16-bit 44.1KHz recording and CD-ROM
interface, for now. They are quite capable, I suppose, of creating a
SB duplicate on a daughterboard and trashing SBOS. Not sure if they'd
WANT to do that...

|>Garry Adkins

DDA

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From: ckalin@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Christopher Allen Kalin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: .SND to .MID converters
Date: 17 Nov 1992 22:06:57 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Keywords: MIDI
Originator: ckalin@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


I have a SB with the Voyetra Sequencer Plus program, which supports .SND and
.MID files.  A friend of mine has a proprietary PC-to-synth interface with a
program that records to .SND files (PC Musician).  However, MY .SND files 
won't load into his program, and his won't load into mine.  To complicate
matters futher, he has a trasncription program that can input .SND files, 
convert them to .SRM, and then print out the piece in musical notation.  THIS
program takes either my .SND files or his .SND files and transcribes them
flawlessly, indicating that the formats are the same, and therefore it must be
the headers of our respective .SND files.

I am therefore looking for a program that will convert .SND (regardless of
which particular program created it) to any type of .MID file.  (It would be
nice, though not necessary, if this program could go from .MID to the
various .SND formats.

By .SND, I mean the Voyetra Plus format, not the digitized .SND format. (I
THINK the Voyetra format is called .SND)

Chris Kalin
From: pcunnell@micrognosis.co.uk (Paul Cunnell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GUS Programming
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:50:16 GMT
Organization: Micrognosis, London, UK.

In article <pclank01.722389633@starbase.spd.louisville.edu>, pclank01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Pat C. Lankswert) writes:
|> Does anybody know anything about the programming interface for the
|> GRAVIS ULTRASOUND.  I am running OS/2 and would like to know so
|> I can write a device driver in case Gravis decides to drag their heals.
|> 
|> Pat
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Count me in as interested in this sort of information. However,
if nothing is forthcoming, I'm not above a little playing with
a 'scope, logic analyser and disassembler. But I hope it won't 
come to that. (See .sig ;-)

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From: ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: GTS *is* in Wuarchive Simtel mirror
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:42:14 GMT
Organization: OFSA

I just checked and the Wuarchive mirror of Simtel does have the GTS
package I uploaded. Look in :

wuarchive.wustl.edu /systems/msdos/simtel20/gts-music  directory.

This should be complete and non-corrupt.

Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: tarjan@iastate.edu (RC Cola)
Subject: Re: Where is Ultrasound?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:59:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.190658.22781@eng.umd.edu> europa@eng.umd.edu (Tae Hun Kim) writes:
>I was just wondering if anyone in the US has got a Ultrasound from anywhere
>besides PC Zone. It seems Telemart and Computability noth have no idea when
>they'll get their first shipment in. Are there any other places where
>they are available?
>

Well Telemart said that they would have it on the 24th.. (bull) I also talked 
with a person who said that they HAD reveived them on tuesday.. but the customer service denied it.. I have no Idea what is going on. I think they are getting screwed over by their distributer.. 

I used to work for a computer store and did alot of ordering and things.. It
seems that the distributors are doing it not gravis or telemart.. I say we 
harass telemart untill they give the name of their distributor.. Then call 
gravis and tell them to get their ass in gear and make the distrib. ship.

There really isnt much we can do to the distributor though. They do not care about the end user.. at all.


Scot Kight
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,rec.music.synth
From: strom@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (b.ivan.strom)
Subject: Windows MM extension for bankswitched or downloadable synths
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:42:07 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard


Has anyone thought of enhancing the Windows midi mapper
to support bank switching synths and downloadable synths?  As an example,
general midi patch 0 might map to synth bank 0, patch 0,
but general midi patch 1 might map to synth bank 3, patch 16.
Midi mapper permits patch to patch associations, but has no feature to
support a bank switch.  Also, there is no feature to autodownload patches,
as might be required for a card like the Ultrasound.

What I would propose is an extension which could send out a text string
(or contents of a file) prior to sending a patch change command.  For example,
the midi mapper patch map could associate a patch with a destination patch,
velocity modifier, and control string.  The control string, which would
point to a control string translation table, could have entries in it like
BANK1 (which might translate into a SysEx sequence in the translation table)
or PATCH patchname (where PATCH would be defined in the xlation table &
understand how to download the patch to the Ultrasound.

Anyone working on this (or interested in doing it)?
From: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: PAS 16 SDK (was: Re: Pro Audio Spectrum FAQL ver 1.1)
Date: 17 Nov 1992 03:18:21 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Reply-To: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <4016@randvax.rand.org>, by edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall):
> In article <1e78u2INNfh2@uwm.edu> tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu writes:
>>Have you looked at the file MVSOUND.ASM?  As far as I can tell, it contains
>>some of the routines used in MVSOUND.SYS, but it is not the complete
>>source for MVSOUND, unfortunately.  Most importantly, it does not include
>>the initialization code.
> 
> You are absolutely right--my mistake.  There seems to be a fair amount
> of initialization code in pas/subs/misc/* --it claims to be able to
> initialize the PAS from a cold boot--but it all assumes that the base
> address is already set.  Grepping around turns up only the definition
> of "MASTERADDRP", the "master address pointer"--but no code in the
> kit ever references this definition or the hex port number (9A01) it
> is defined to.

And it not only assumes that the base address has already been set, but
also the IRQ and the DMA (plus rerouting of the timer...the T:1 parameter
of MVSOUND.SYS).  I can't find how all of the above can be set either.

Unfortunately, when you're using OS/2 or Unix, you can't use MVSOUND.SYS
for all your routines either :)  I don't know how MVSOUND.ASM fits into
the MVSOUND.SYS source code, but it doesn't look like everything is in
the SDK.

Also, since it's my turn to bitch, the mixer chip doesn't seem to be
documented very well at all.  But the code driving it also seems to be
part of MVSOUND.SYS also.  Could this port address 0x9A01 be part of
the mixer?

I've received mail from a couple of people at MediaVision today, so
maybe I will get some additional information soon.  MediaVision seems
to be very responsive...they deserve credit for that...