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From: adelman@TGV.COM (Kenneth Adelman)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Re: Multinet Over DECnet
Date: 30 Dec 92 05:09:19 GMT
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
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> Multinet Colleagues,
> Some questions for your kind attention (thanks in advance):

> (1) Can disks on a SUN IPC be served to an Alpha AXP4000-610 running OpenVMS
> and vice versa using Multinet NFS over DECnet? The SUN would be on the DECnet
> cable also. Currently we have 2 SUN IPCs sharing NFS mounted disks over a
> DECnet Ethernet cable so I expect the answer is "yes".

    Yes, BUT you're running MultiNet NFS over IP.  What you run the IP
over is your business, and it could include the Ethernet directly
(which is what I would expect you do to a SUN), or it could include IP
encapsulated in DECnet running over an arbitrary DECnet network.  I
don't think that SUN has an IP over DECnet that would interoperate
with the MultiNet IP over DECnet.

> (2) If so then is there anything to be especially careful of? By the way, LAT
> and LAVC are running on the same cable as well.

    Nothing particular to that configuration. If they are both on the
same Ethernet network, run TCP/IP over the Ethernet on both machines
and DECnet (although it runs on the same cable) isn't involved.

> (3) Also, are OpenVMS Volume-shadowed disks accessible via Multinet NFS?

    Yes.

> (4) Likewise any problem with bound volume sets?

    No problems (not in MultiNet V2.2 and later).

    Note that Alpha AXP systems require MultiNet V3.2. V3.2 will be
shipping to all customers under support starting January 15th, and
we expect to take about 3 weeks to get all of the updates out. If you
have an AXP system now, we can get you a pre-release copy.

								Ken
From: JDM@CADRE1.CALTECH.EDU
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: networkable laser printers
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:39:16 -0800 (PST)
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
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Any info about network-connect laser printers that work with Multinet
software on VMS machines would be very much appreciated.  We need to purchase
printers to replace LaserWriters and need higher bandwidth.  Thanks in advance.
JON MELVIN  jdm@caltech.edu
From: adelman@TGV.COM (Kenneth Adelman)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Re: Are different images used in Multinet V3.1 for VMS 5.4 and VMS 5.5?
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 19:15:26 PST
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
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> I am finally ready to upgrade to Multinet V3.1 on our cluster (since
> V3.2 is about to be released :-), but we have a Multi-version cluster
> since our 65x0's are running VMS 5.4-2 and we have 10 VAXStation 4000
> Mod 60's running VMS A5.5.  We are using the undocumented definitions
> of the Multinet logicals to move Multinet off of the System disk so that
> I don't have to install it on the system disks for each of the system
> disks in the cluster. (We have two 5.4-2 system disks, and 10 A5.5
> system disks).

> Are there any images which are different for VMS 5.4 and VMS 5.5?

    No MultiNet images are different.

    Do not run MultiNet V3.1 Rev A on a VAX 65x0 with more than
one procesor. You need at least Rev B to workaround what we believe
is an alignment bug in the 6500 microcode.

							Ken
From: VANCE@TGV.COM (L. Stuart Vance)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Re:  networkable laser printers
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:54:46 -0800 (PST)
Organization: TGV, Incorporated
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

>Any info about network-connect laser printers that work with Multinet
>software on VMS machines would be very much appreciated.  We need to purchase
>printers to replace LaserWriters and need higher bandwidth.  Thanks in advance.
>JON MELVIN  jdm@caltech.edu

We have a couple of HP LaserJet IIIsi printers with JetDirect (I think that's
what they call them) Ethernet cards in them.  They work just great with the
MultiNet stream symbiont, and we have a device control library that one of our
customer's cooked up that helps as well.  Anonymous FTP to PUBLIC.TGV.COM and
check out the stuff in the [.HPLJ3SI] directory.

We've also used a Talaris printer with TCP/IP support.  It works quite nicely
as well.

Regards!
-----Stuart
From: GAVRON@IT.SUNQUEST.COM (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2546)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Question about running a command procedure from the Multinet_Server
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 11:10:53 -0700 (MST)
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
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Date sent:  24-DEC-1992 11:09:55 


We want to set up an incoming wks to connect to a process running MUMPS
(and we want to pass command line parameters to mumps on invocation).

Ideally one could
	mult config/serv
	add bogon
	set program multinet:run_bogon_mumps.com

However, set program requires an executable.  If we specify loginout,
no command line parameters.  If we specify mumps, ditto.

Help!

Ehud

--
Ehud Gavron        (EG76)     
gavron@vesta.sunquest.com					This was sent
"The world bores you when you're cool."				from an Alpha
From: KVC@SUMMER.INNOSOFT.COM (Kevin V. Carosso)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Re: Question about running a command procedure from the Multinet_Server
Date: 29 Dec 1992 12:27:51 -0800 (PST)
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
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> Do it the way UCX V2 does, not because they do it right...

Actually I don't mean to imply they do it wrong, just that they went
a little overboard perhaps with the automatic rexec-based validation.
Anyway, it's a satisfactory model, just do it.

	/Kevin Carosso
	 Innosoft
From: PUNGMS@STC10.CTD.ORNL.GOV
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: MultiNet Auth Services Questions
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:08:18 -0500 (EST)
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
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Guys,

	We have been testing out the MultiNet Authentication Services
	(aka Kerberos support) under MultiNet V3.2D with some Unix
	Workstations to see how everything plays together.

	The following questions came up during the tests.  Any input/help on
	these issues would be greatly appreciated.  We checked the Multinet
	Authentication Services Administrator's Guide but find the info there.

	Note:  KDEVEL is the VMS system name (in the following questions).


				Questions
				---------

 1. How does one specify what principals (e.g., jnm.admin@CTD.ORNL.GOV) are
    allowed to use kadmin (and their corresponding access privileges)? This is
    what we see when running kadmin from a Unix workstation:

	% kadmin
	Welcome to the Kerberos Administration Program, version 2
	Type "help" if you need it.
	admin:  get jnm
	Admin password:
	kadm error: Insufficient access to perform requested operation


 2. Does Multinet Kerberos support encrypted rlogin/rcp/rsh (i.e., the -x
    option)? When we try this from a Unix workstation, we get:

	% rlogin kdevel -x
	kdevel.CTD.ORNL.GOV: Connection refused
	rlogin: Kerberos rcmd failed: rcmd protocol failure.


 3. What would be causing the following error:

	$ multinet kerberos init
	This node is: KDEVEL.CTD.ORNL.GOV
	Kerberos Initialization for "jnm"

	KERBEROS INIT: Can't send request (send_to_kdc)


 4. Where is the Multinet Kerberos "telnet" documented? What implementation
    is it compatible with? 


	Thanks in advance,	
								Mike

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From: JDM@CADRE1.CALTECH.EDU
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: followon to last query about networkable printers
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:43:50 -0800 (PST)
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
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The Multinet PCU utility looks like it links VMS queues to remote TCP/IP
printers.  What printers has this been used with successfully?  Any PostScript
printers?  Is bi-directional communication possible with such printers?
JON MELVIN   jdm@caltech.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
From: spcsup@solomon.technet.sg (Wong Fay Yu)
Subject: Print Redirection to Novell
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:28:09 GMT

I'm on a Novell LAN with a MicroVAX 3100 connected to it via Ethernet.
We are looking into the issue of print redirection from the VMS queue to the
Novell print queues.

How can I redirect the VMS print jobs to the local LPT port so that Novell can
take over from there and capture the job to the Novell queue?

Is there a product that sits in the VAX that will redirect jobs from the VMS queue to the Novell queue directly? (i.e. via IPX or TCP/IP)

How does TGV's MultiNet Services for Netware Users apply to me?

Thanks

Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron)
Subject: Re:  networkable laser printers
Reply-To: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:57:43 GMT


In article <724978486.616996.VANCE@TGV.COM>, VANCE@TGV.COM (L. Stuart Vance) writes:

>>Any info about network-connect laser printers that work with Multinet
>>software on VMS machines would be very much appreciated.  We need to purchase
>>printers to replace LaserWriters and need higher bandwidth.  Thanks in advance.
>>JON MELVIN  jdm@caltech.edu
>
>We have a couple of HP LaserJet IIIsi printers with JetDirect (I think that's
>what they call them) Ethernet cards in them.  They work just great with the
>MultiNet stream symbiont, and we have a device control library that one of our
>customer's cooked up that helps as well.  Anonymous FTP to PUBLIC.TGV.COM and
>check out the stuff in the [.HPLJ3SI] directory.
>
>We've also used a Talaris printer with TCP/IP support.  It works quite nicely
>as well.

We are looking at using some LPS20s through lpr.  We already have our Unix
boxes printing to them, and someone thought "wouldn't a single, consistent
interface be nice?"  Really!!!  The main interest is that we have a number of
VAXen that have been moved into the network that have (or will have) MultiNet,
and none have Print Services.

I guess I'll find out next week.
--
Dillon Pyron                      | The opinions expressed are those of the
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From: JDM@CADRE1.CALTECH.EDU
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Kerberos
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 12:11:26 -0800 (PST)
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
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Do you have anything on the net you can send me which describes capabilities
and price/delivery for Kerberos? JON MELVIN jdm@cadre1.caltech.edu
From: adelman@TGV.COM (Kenneth Adelman)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Re: Undocumented NFS Netcontrol commands
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 14:56:21 PST
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
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> I just upgraded to Multinet V3.1 and I noticed that NETCONTROL NFS
> has some commands which I didn't see in the manual.  The commands
> are RECORD-RESPONSE-TIMES and SHOW-RESPONSE-TIMES.  Since we are
> very interested in NFS server performance these new commands look
> like they might be of interest to us, but RECORD-RESPONSE-TIMES
> gives an "?Unknown error" when I give it any parameter and
> SHOW-RESPONSE-TIMES just returns:
> < NFS server response times:
> < OK
> NFS>

> Are these commands really implemented?  Are they designed as Server or
> Client commands?

    No, they require a special compilation conditional in the NFS Server
which turns on the statistic gathering code. We use it for internal
debugging.

> I also have another question about the NFS server on V3.1.  I saw in the
> documentation that we can define a "cluster alias IP address" for
> automatic fail-over of NFS service.  It wasn't clear to me exactly how
> and where this is defined.  Specifically I would like one node of my
> cluster to be the master NFS server, but if that node crashes I would
> like another specific node to pick up the alias.  How do I tell Multinet
> that VAX5 for example should start answering the IP alias address and
> that VAX9 should be the backup node?

    You define them by specifying a (new) IP address in MU CONFIGURE
with SET IP-CLUSTER-ALIASES. For example, put a new node in your
DNS called "vax-5-9" and give it a new IP address. Have both machines
list this IP address in their IP-CLUSTER-ALIASES and then mount your
NFS filesystems using this new name.

    There is no way to "specify" a primary vs. backup node, but the
trick we use is to use NETCONTROL to "release" the alias. On your
primary node, in the boot do:

$ mu netcontrol /host=vax9 cluster release all

(this presumes you also use MU CONFIG/SERVER on VAX9 to give VAX5
access to the NETCONTROL service).

							    Ken
From: MCKEEVER@VAX2.CSTP.UMKC.EDU (Brian McKeever)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Re: followon to last query about networkable printers
Date: 22 Dec 92 13:57:00 GMT
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
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> The Multinet PCU utility looks like it links VMS queues to remote TCP/IP
> printers.  What printers has this been used with successfully?  Any PostScript
> printers?  Is bi-directional communication possible with such printers?

We use Multinet LPD queues to print to AppleTalked Laserwriters via
Gatorboxes running GatorPrint.  Works great.

-=Brian
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Pathworks for PC Proxy Access
From: David Woodall <DVWOODALL@TAYLORU.BITNET>
Date: 31 Dec 1992 10:32:00 -0500 (EST)
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PUNGMS@STC10.CTD.ORNL.GOV says:
>        However, when I tried to do this yesterday, I could not find anyway
>        to configure Pathworks on the PC so that it sends the Username
>        information onto the VAX host system so that it can be recognized
>        by the VMS SYSUAF Proxy table/utility.

Username and password informaiton is stored in the PC's NCP database.  The
Username can be stored for each known remote node.  For example:

        NCP DEFINE NODE nodename USER user PASS password

This information is used for ALL access to the node until it is cleared from
the database with the command:

        NCP PURGE NODE nodename USER

Hope this helps.

Happy New Year!

David


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David Woodall                      BITNET: DVWOODAL@TAYLORU
Systems & Development Leader
Taylor University
Upland, IN
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Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: LAT Parallel Print Servers
From: Steve Roberts <BMCSAR@PATERSON.CHRISTIE-HOSPITAL.MANCHESTER.AC.UK>
Date: 22 Dec 1992 15:22:00 +0000 (GMT)
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Via: uk.ac.manchester.christie-hospital.paterson; Tue,22 Dec 1992 15:21:30 +0000

A word of warning - If you want to hook up a Postscript printer to one
of these devices via a Centronics type interface, your printer will probably
not be able to talk back to the host. Which rather messes up symbionts that
are trying to do page accounting.
-- We nearly got caught - if you know better then I would like to know :-)
 
Steve. (BMCSAR @ UK.AC.MAN.CR.PICR)
From: system@CSP.IT (Roberto.Borri@CSP.IT Tel: +39-11-3187407 Fax: +39-11-3187480)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Set Server Time
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:17:00 GMT
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This job can be done via NTP.
NTP is one of the INTERNET TCP/IP protocol suite.

TGV-Multinet (current version 3.1) provides this service too.

Happy new year!

Bob Borri
Supercomputing Centre in Turin (CSP)
From: houseman@Turing.ORG (Carl Houseman)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: LANSESS, NET USE, MS WINDOWS
Date: 31 Dec 92 16:35:21 GMT
Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host

In article <23DEC92.18013598@jevex.waisman.wisc.edu> karcher@jevex.waisman.wisc.edu writes:
>In a previous article, houseman@Turing.ORG (Carl Houseman) wrote:
>>Get the Pathworks/DOS client patch kit from DEC Customer support.
>>It fixes a great number of problems, including this one.
>The patch is known as CSCPAT #3046 V1.3 and includes a new PCSA.DRV, DECNET.386
>and DECNB.386.
>
>Carl Karcher                          Internet: KARCHER@WAISMAN.WISC.EDU
>Waisman Center                        Bitnet:   KARCHER@WISCMACC
>University of Wisconsin-Madison       PSTnet:   (608) 263-5896

No, actually I was speaking of CSCPAT #3037, which you asked about in a
separate e-mail message.

BUT, since you mention it, does CSCPAT #3046 contain drivers more recent than
those which ship with Windows 3.1?

Carl Houseman
GENICOM Engineering
houseman@turing.org (this address may change shortly, new address not known!)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: LES@sscl.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: LANSESS & WINDOWS 3.1 & DOS 5.0
Organization: Social Science Computing Laboratory
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:21:55 GMT

 Jim, the following sounds like something we need.  I found files services
very slow without Lansess.

 Les.
--------

In article <4*egger@mpi-fg-koeln.mpg.dbp.DE> EGGER <egger@MPI-FG-KOELN.MPG.DBP.DE> writes:
>Subject: SUMMARY: LANSESS & WINDOWS 3.1 & DOS 5.0
>From: EGGER <egger@MPI-FG-KOELN.MPG.DBP.DE>
>Date: 22 Dec 1992 07:22:34 -0500
>Hello,
>here is the promised summary of the answers to my question about how to
>load lansess into EMS and still be able to use the 'EXIT TO DOS'- function
>from within windows.
>A few people mentioned not to use EMS at all to load PCSA components, but
>we use it now for a few years and it works fine. On the other hand the
>benefit you achieve in conventional memory is enormous and in some cases
>you can't even run programs without that amount of memory.
>Someone else gave the advice not to load lansess into EMS. That didn't fix
>the problem. The PC still started to hang after you tried to return to
>WIndows. In some cases i couldn't even use the USE- command.
>P. Grieggs' wrote that one have to insert the
>following statements in the [386ENH] section of the SYSTEM.INI.
> 
>        NETNoBlock=FALSE
>        DNETHeapSize=64
> 
>So i tried this and it solved the problem. When I tried to find these
>parameters in the Windows Resource Kit i failed. So i called Microsoft at
>Munich, but they didn't even heard of those parameters and told me to call
>DEC.
>They explained why that fixes the problem, which wasn't unknown to them.
>The NETNoBlock tells windows to ignore all changes to the environment of
>that child-process that were made by such network task.
>The function of DNETHeapSize was unknown to them, but they told me, that
>there was a fix available. It consist of two files, DECNB.386 and
>DECNET.386. This realy seems to solve the problem. None of the above
>described entries in SYSTEM.INI is necessary.
>At last i want to thank everyone who helped. Mery Christmas and a happy
>new year.

Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: garber@aru.dom.uab.edu (David W. Garber)
Subject: re: vms/dos archivers/dearchivers
Organization: Univ of Ala. @ Birmingham
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:25:55 GMT

Thanks to Jasper Rees and Ron Fox, who informed me that there is a VMS 
implementation for pkzip.  Unfortunately, my problems are still there.  I 
got a vms version of unzip.exe ([.macro32]) and zip.exe (from zip-unzip.
bck_z on [.macro32.savesets]) from ftp.spc.edu.  The unzip program works on 
both vms and dos zip files, but the vms zip program produces files which 
cannot be read by dos pkunzip, even if the -k option (simulate PKZIP made 
zipfile) is used.  I haven't yet looked for a working vms zip program in the 
VAX-SIG tapes (or CD's), since our system manager is on vacation.  Can 
anyone suggest an ftp source for other versions of vms zip.exe or its 
equivalent?

Although this is peripheral to Pathworks, it relates to how our people 
integrate their VAX and PC usage.  Thanks for your help.

David W. Garber (garber@aru.dom.uab.edu)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: houseman@Turing.ORG (Carl Houseman)
Subject: Re: LANSESS, NET USE, MS WINDOWS
Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:14:35 GMT

In article <"0020551418121992/A03283/A7141"@viking.navair.navy.mil> GEORGEJM%AM.A7141.mrouter@VIKING.NAVAIR.NAVY.MIL (John M. George) writes:
>Does anyone know if Digital is planning to fix the problem
>with running a NET USE command in a DOS SHELL under
>windows while LANSESS is running?  Most of my users use
>LANSESS because it significantly speeds up I/O to file
>services.  DECNet is GREAT in a wide area environment, but
>why should I be forced to use it when my file server is
>down the hall from my workstation?

Get the Pathworks/DOS client patch kit from DEC Customer support.
It fixes a great number of problems, including this one.

>Thanks in advance,
>John George
>Information Systems Division
>Naval Air Systems Command HQ
>Washington DC

You're welcome.

Carl Houseman
GENICOM Engineering
houseman@turing.org
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: White paper on Windows for Workgroups & Pathworks
From: Ralph Yingling <yingling@HCOB.WMICH.EDU>
Date: 18 Dec 1992 07:32:12 -0500
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Apparently it WAS too long unless it has a BINARY attatchment, there was
nothing else that appeared after the dashed line.  I'd sure like to see it.
 
yingling@hcob.wmich.edu
 
>     HOWDY!
>
>     Here is the document - just like you asked.  I hope that
>     it's not too long to post here!  I tried these steps and
>     Windows for Workgroups worked like a charm!  Amazing, isn't
>     it?
 
>     Jenett Tillotson
 
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