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From: bianc@next09cville.wam.umd.edu (WierdnesS)
Subject: Re: Ugly Kid Joe
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:19:06 GMT

In article <18j269INNg91@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> darkman@cats.ucsc.edu (Axeman)  
writes:
> 
> naffara@crc.ac.uk (Dr. N.A. Affara) writes:
> 
> >Has anyone seen Ugly Kid Joe live?
> >I have heard they will be here in Cambridge (UK) sometime in October  
with 
> >Megadeth a couple of weeks earlier. 
> 
> Please tell me Megadeth isn't touring in the United States with Ugly Kid  
Joe
> ... anybody know?
> 
> 
I'm not sure, but have heard rumors that Megadeth is touring with Body  
Count!
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: rancid@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chanel Wheeler)
Subject: Re: My Dying Bride
Keywords: death
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 19:12:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.145238.6584@news.uit.no> kjetilja@stud.cs.uit.no (Kjetil Jacobsen) writes:
>I've recently heard an EP from a death metal band called "My Dying Bride"
>and I wondered if anyone have heard the CD based on it, cos the EP was just
>marvelous groovy....like paradise lost....just more lost....
>Is it worth getting my hands at it??

Yes, yes, yes. If you enjoyed the EP, you'll enjoy the full length. It's
a mixture of long multistyled tracks and short fast tracks like the EP.

Has anyone heard anything about the possibility of My Dying Bride touring the
US?

chanel
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Bolt Thrower (was I'm Back)
Date: 14 Sep 92 04:26:42 GMT
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Sep14.111158.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au> c9221777@cc.newcastle.edu.au (Brother Redeye) writes:
>I recall readinga few dozen posts back about the production of Bolt Thrower
>albums.  While admittedly Realm of Chaos came out a trifle indistinctly,
>Warmaster had excellent sound quality and a much smoother sound ... well as far
>as smooth applies to this particular style of music.

Took a better listen to my REALMS OF CHAOS. Last time I posted I complained
about the lack of Jo Bench's appearance on the album, and this time, rather
than using my sister's stereo, I used mine with bass enhance, and I can hear
the bass so much better now. There still is that pain in Obituary albums though
cuz I 've listened to them on my system and I can't hear the bassist that well.
If I twist the knobs right I can hear Dave Vincent, but the Death album I
have still has the best bass guitar sound, in my opinion. I'm liking the
Bolt Thrower much more with every listen. Thanks to those guys over the summer
who screamed through my e-mail for me to get their albums. Still have yet to
get Carcass, but I'm saving my money for the Demon and possible Legend albums
right now, so that'll have to wait.

philip
"Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
e-mail Philip Wang at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: fate@eskimo.celestial.com (Craig Stykel)
Subject: Rob Halford dead??
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 06:18:33 GMT

A co-worker had told me that she had heard the Rob Halford was 
dead. I had trouble believing her, cause I had heard nothing about it
on the radio or anywhere else....
I need to know if it is true or not......
Thanks
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: mega@lut.fi (Mega the Root of All Evil)
Subject: Re: My Dying Bride
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 17:39:33 GMT
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland


In article <1992Sep11.145238.6584@news.uit.no> kjetilja@stud.cs.uit.no (Kjetil Jacobsen) writes:

   I've recently heard an EP from a death metal band called "My Dying Bride"
   and I wondered if anyone have heard the CD based on it, cos the EP was just
   marvelous groovy....like paradise lost....just more lost....
   Is it worth getting my hands at it??

   Kjetil.


 Yes the album is the best 'death' metal album of they year. It's titled
 "As the flower withers" and it is much in the same vein that the EP.
 Fast songs,slow songs and mid-tempo songs. The vocalist has the best grunt
 I have ever heard (Even Nick Holmes from Paradise Lost can't be compared
 to Aaron's sharp-edged grunts). The music varies a lot and it has some nice 
 melodies with violin creating a spooky mood. Definetely this kinda music will
 be a future of death metal.


--
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 I E-mail: mega@lut.fi                                         I
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 I  perhaps every fourth person is a dumb fuck." - NoMeansNo - I         
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From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: King Diamond's real name?
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:36:58 GMT
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <LAVONIUS.92Sep15173350@kruuna.Helsinki.FI> lavonius@kruuna.Helsinki.FI (Ville Lavonius) writes:
>In article <9209142052.AA17440@cscmgb.cc.ic.ac.uk> v.narinian@ic.ac.UK writes:
>   Speaking of King Diamond, I recently bought `Abigail' because I'd heard it
>   was good. God! The two guitarists are very good and the idea behind the
>   album is quite original. But the vocals are AWFUL. As soon as King Diamond
>   opens is mouth to `sing' he ruins everything. It's bad to see such a concept
>   album with such good guitar sounds be ruined by the vocalist's incompetence...
>   Anyone agree?
>No, I disagree completely :-)
>IMO the best feature of this album is the uncertainty of the vocals, on the
>first hearings you can never be sure _when_ KD is going to hit high C in the
>middle of a growl, and on the later hearings you can't but admire this guys
>amazing vocal range.
>
But still, King Diamond is an acquired taste. When I first heard him I thought
he was horrible. I think "The Family Ghost" finally got me in to him and then
I got a pretty good feel of what kind of stuff he does. "Sleepless Nights"
finally convinced me to get his albums because by then I found I actually
liked his voice(s). Andy La Rocque and Pete Blakk shred, too. Maybe because at
the time bands like Motley Crue, Skid Row, Bon Jovi et al were making it huge
with three-chord rock and sing-along blues based melodies it was a relief to
hear some more classically oriented and pretty complex music. Not to mention
horror topics in lyrics.

philip
"Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
e-mail Philip Wang at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: FUTURE of this group - EXPLAINED.
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:41:40 GMT

How is this going to "strengthen" the group, when already you are splitting
it into factions. "If anyone wants to be Anti-social..." and "if you are too
insecure to...". 
So if I don't want to participate in your little organizational frenzy, I am
already branded as Anti-social and Insecure. 
Well, brand away. If I want someone to contact me directly, I'll give THEM
any info. I like to choose who gets what about/from me, and not just
broadband it around the world.
Sorry.

					--Judex--
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Yngwie Malmsteen
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:42:54 GMT
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Sep14.055446.16999@cs.ucf.edu> wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson) writes:
>pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) wrote:
>>I'm listening to Malmsteen's TRIAL BY FIRE album. This guy cracks me up. He
>>reminds me of Peter Schikele (aka PDQ Bach) especially because he pulls out
>>really familiar passages from really familiar composers from out of nowhere
>>(what a surprise to hear the opening bars to Symphony No. 5 in C Minor by
>>Beethoven). Then I got a kick out of how Bach...(etc.)
>
>So basically you won't be listening to YJM any longer...? and more importantly,
>this was your last post trashing him...? What is funny is that...you paid money
>for something you don't like! I hope you didn't buy Fire and Ice. There are
>some strings pieces written (oops, perhaps stolen). I like the classical lyrics
>though!
>
>Tom

No, I like him!!!!! Sorry if you misunderstood my message. I think Yngwie is 
awesome!!! It's just that whereas someone else might think it's really
serious, I interpret it as really funny, almost parody like, and really
effective 'cause Yngwie is good enough to do that sort of thing. 

philip

"Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
e-mail Philip Wang at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: question of possible discrepancy between thrash and speed metal
Date: 14 Sep 92 04:35:03 GMT
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University

As the subject line says, is there any difference? It seemed to me that "speed
metal" was used to describe bands in the US like Faith No More, Metallica,
Slayer, Exodus, etc. who responded to the NWOBHM with even faster and louder
music while "thrash" described the European development which in my opinion
is much faster than the US version and also heavier (the US version which is
basically crossovers into traditional heavy metal styles. FAith No More and
Metallica and even Anthrax probably the best examples I can think of. Don't
dispute about FNM. You'd know what I'm saying if you heard the INTRODUCE 
YOURSELF LP). Comments?

philip
"Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
e-mail Philip Wang at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
From: bruss@cs.ucsd.edu (Brian Russ)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: I got the first two Demon albums!!!
Date: 10 Sep 92 07:20:20 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

In article <1992Sep10.043803.17963@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>
>I was wondering. I was considering getting these two NWOBHM comps, one with
>songs by Paralex, Trident, Dealer, Satan, Marquis De Sade, Dawn Watcher,
>Warrior, Hammerhead, After Dark, and Mendes Prey and the other with demos
>by Satan, Grim Reaper, and Kraken. Should I hook up with these or should
>I go for other stuff like Diamond Head's BORROWED TIME, Witchfynde's GIVE 'EM
>HELL and Legend's DEATH IN THE NURSERY? 
          ^^^^^^

	Aaggh!  Philip!  You're a god!  I don't I've ever heard anyone
else on this net mention my favorite band of all time, Legend.  I have
it on vinyl -- I'm sure you're not getting a CD version, are you?
"Death In The Nursery" was my favorite album of '82 and one of my
alltime favorite albums (their first, self-titled, is also great).
Brilliant stuff ... let's see -- "Borrowed Time": not a great product-
ion, and the new versions of the "Lightning" tracks ("Am I Evil?" and at
least one other) are vastly inferior.  But the album has it's moments,
notably the title track.  "Give 'Em Hell"?  "Stagefright" is better --
the title track is a classic.  To answer your question -- hmmm.  I've
never heard of the two comps you mention -- I'd like to hear some old
Satan or Grim Reaper tracks (Grim Reaper were great with their old
singer (this was before their first LP).  But most of those others
I'd not be too interested in ...

	Probably should take this to email, but are you interested in tape
trading?  Drop me a line ...

					Brian

-- 
Brian Russ
CSE Department, UC San Diego
..!sdcsvax!bruss	bruss@beowulf.ucsd.edu
From: k-man@diego.llnl.gov (Kevin Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: David T. Chastain
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:04:20 GMT
Organization: My House, My House


It's good to see some interest in old David T. happening.

I think I am a proud owner of just about everything he has
put out - I am only missing what claims to be his first
recording by some band whose name escapes me.

If I can get to it, I will submit a list of his material.
He has put out a couple more instrumentals lately since "For
Those Who Dare".  "Elegant Seduction" and "Live Wild and Diminished"

It has been difficult finding the material since it is available
only from a small independent label, Leviathan.  They have an
800 number and you can order directly from the company.  I think
they want $13.25 (including shipping) per CD - not too bad.

For those really into him, I have a couple of live shows
I would trade.  I have a couple with Chastain (Leather on vocals)
from a club in Chicago in the late 80's and at least one
live CJSS show.

I prefer the CJSS material - more rip 'em stuff with those
classic silver throated vocals ...

Adios  K-Man
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From: turner5427@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: FUTURE of this group - EXPLAINED.
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:36:12 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Well, after my original post (PLEASE read.  Future of this group) I have
received and read posts which thought the idea was cool and others who thought
it sucked.  After reading the complaints from the second group mentioned above,
I feel that I must now explain in greater detail the REASON for my idea and the
RESULT I was thinking of.

First of all, the REASON behind getting a "membership" (as some of you put it)
is NOT to exclude anyone from posting (I don't really have the authority or the
desire to).  The "LIST" is to benefit people who want to have a SOURCE of
reference to contact others DIRECTLY or to KNOW about the various people who
regulary post to this group.  (For those of you still not comprehending all of
this, here's an example:  I'm really into Solitude Aeturnus.  Knowing about
others who listen to Solitude would allow me to communicate to people I KNOW
like Solitude also.  Second, I would know HOW MANY people listen to them. 
Third, suppose there are people who listen to groups very similar to Solitude,
but have never heard of them?  I can CORRECT that situation!)

The idea of having an album list with ratings and/or reviews, was also slammed
on by some.  I'm sorry if some of you are so insecure as to object to having
your favorite albums rated by a majority and averaged.  Just because an album
gets a low rating by the group, it doesn't mean that it sucks and it can't be
YOUR favorite anymore!  The USE of this is in trying to find albums that mabey
a lot of people think is GREAT, but you've never heard it.  Well, if a lot of
people (those who have similar music interests) like it, mabey I would like it.

There are all kinds of things we could do which could be benefical.  And of
course these lists/references would be open to anyone.  If you happen to be
anti-social and don't want to add your name and information to a list; fine! 
You can still read and use the products we come up with.  I see NO REASON NOT
TO be part of this, but to EACH HIS (and HER) OWN.

Now, the RESULT of all this can not possibily do anything to degrade this
group, but on the contrary can only STRENGTHEN this group in as it brings
together people from all over the world to express their common interest: 
HEAVY METAL!  Think of this as a FAN CLUB OF HEAVY METAL!  And as one person
mentioned, if you really hate having to skip past any mention of or post from
this "LIST", one can always use the KILL files, RIGHT???  Good.  Thank you.

tt..
From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: other good albums of 1992
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:11:59 GMT
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University

Most of you guys already mentioned Iron Maiden, Pantera, Black Sabbath, etc.,
but I seem to be one of maybe two or three who have ever mentioned L7 or
Killers. Both are excellent.

As far as L7 goes, I haven't heard a girl group so heavy or meritable since
Girlschool (bands like Vixen or Runaways seem a bit too raunchy for my
tastes), although Girlschool in my opinion remain by far the original and still
the best of the girl bands. But L7 is really close. As far as riffs go, they're
actually heavier than any Girlschool and thrashier, although they put 
themselves with Nirvana in style and attitude. They're also socially conscious
in their lyrics, if you go for that kind of stuff. Their album, BRICKS ARE
HEAVY, is pretty good, although people claim their two earlier efforts are
better.

Killers's album MURDER ONE gets better every time I hear it. Side A isn't quite
as exciting though (the T. Rex cover "Children Of The Revolution" is OK, but 
as often as Def Leppard has claimed that Marc Bolan is awesome I remain
unconvinced, but that's just my opinion). Side B with "Marshall Lockjaw" is
really cool, sort of "Lone Justice" by Anthrax in style, but really cool riff.
Paul Di'anno's best recording since Praying Mantis's LIVE AT LAST and then
KILLERS by Iron Maiden, in my opinion. The drummer from Paul Di'anno's
Battlezone is also on this album. The version of "Remember Tomorrow" on this
album is my favorite one ever recorded, although I wish he did "Killers"
or "Sanctuary" instead. He has rights to those songs I think because he
cowrote those, too. But Killers's album is in my opinion very much worth
checking out. Never mind the critics who keep saying that everything Di'anno
does keeps sounding like a rehash of old Iron Maiden because that's not
really true. In fact MURDER ONE seems much more honest than Iron Maiden's
FEAR OF THE DARK and has gone off in probably the direction Di'anno would
have liked if he were still in the band.

phili[
"Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
e-mail Philip Wang at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
Organization: Sophomore, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:49:24 -0400 
From: Michael Raymond Cote <mc7g+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Carcass
	<1992Sep11.022726.24044@seq.uncwil.edu>

Does anyone know if Carcass (along with Cathedral and Napalm Death) is
going to perform in Pittsburgh and when?

--Michael Cote
From: jbell@mihi.une.edu.au (Master of Puppets)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Metallica, Bootlegs and other stuff
Date: 14 Sep 1992 20:58:35 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
X-Unparseable-Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 11:57:42 GMT-10:00

Hopefully this will post.......

Ok, I've finally figured out how to post news, this stupid site wont let me
so emails the way....*sigh8
oh well...
ANYWAYS

can someone please tell me where the hell I can get bootlegs from????
here in downunder we have NONE WHATSOEVER!
all we DO have is a few people that manage to get COPIES and sell THEM
on TAPE....thats ALL!
so ANY info would be appreciated!
I would mainly like Metallica bootlegs......

and I have never seen let it loose on ANY No Life Till Leather demo
it was never REALEASED by Metallica with it on it....the officlial songs
on No Life Till Leather are, according to MetallicA, Hit The Lights, Mechanix,
Motorbreath, Seek And Destroy, Metal Militia and I *think* Jump In The fire..
thats ALL!!

-- 
/------------------------jbell@mihi.une.edu.au--------------------------\
| so, understand  |-----Iron Maiden--"Wasted years"-----| | Justin Bell |
| the wasted time always searching for those wasted years |             |
| face up, make your stand |---Iron Maiden? EXCELLENT---| |  +61-67-72  |
| and realise you're living in those golden years         |     6247    |
\-------------90 Taylor St., Armidale, NSW, 2350, AUSTRALIA-------------/
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: jeffs@dvorak.amd.com
Subject: Re: Alice In Chains
Organization: Nothing, Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 22:15:51 GMT

What?
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Sun, 06 Sep 92 18:38:29 CST
From:         Michael Teller <C09615MT@wuvmd.wustl.edu>
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:      Deicide Date
Newsgroups:   alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy

Does anyone know when Deicide is going to play at Club 367 in St. Louis?
I've heard some time in October but I want to know a more exact date.
Also can anyone out there give me a Napalm Death discography.? I recently
picked up Harmony Corruption and love it. Thanks.

                 -Teller
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: naffara@crc.ac.uk (Dr. N.A. Affara)
Subject: Re: Kill Posers!!
Organization: MRC Human Genome Resource Centre
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:17:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.210652.12930@news.columbia.edu>, pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
> In article <1992Sep7.171028.3444@seas.gwu.edu> maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple M. Moriji) writes:
> >The Poserkiller has finally returned from a summer of non-stop metal action!
> >It is now time for all of us REAL metal fans to go over to alt.r-n-r.metal
> >and destroy those pathetic little posers who listen to Motley Screw and
> >Poison.  They don't deserve to have a newgroup under the title metal.  Their
> >stuff belongs on alt.r-n-r.hard.on!  So all you REAL metal fans get your
> >asses on over to alt.r-n-r.metal and make some noize!
And just who are you to decide who likes what?
If you ask me, you should be banned from _all_ newsgroups except alt.brain.dead

> >
> >C++ ya in the battlefields....
> >
> >Maple
> >The Poserkiller
> >
> So the question goes, are you on this witch hunt because you're trying to
> distract attention away from yourself? You claim (and I find hard to believe)
> that you found Suaron blasting away some Def Leppard stuff when you went to
> his house. How do we know that you aren't doing the same?
I think you might be right there....
> 
> Finally, did it occur to you that some of us might actually LIKE stuff that
> Poison or Def Leppard does and still enjoy Bolt Thrower and Carcass 
> simultaneously? 
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Do you think he'll understand a word as long as this???

> Aside from the fact that the same metal fans also like jazz,
> blues, and / or classical for that matter. Just because someone likes a style
> of music doesn't mean that the same person can't like anything else.

This is obvious to everyone except that fuckwit Maple.
(What a shit name anyway.... Maple?!?)

Another Phil,
(E-mail naffara@uk.ac.crc)

> 
> philip
> "Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
> Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
> GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
> e-mail Philip Wang at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu


-- 
Kryten (When Cat says why don't we raise the defensive shields?) "A superlative
suggestion sir,with only two drawbacks: one,we don't have any defensive shields
and two,we don't have any defensive shields.I know that,technically,that's only
one drawback,but it was such a big one I thought I'd mention it twice".
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