From: rpitts@emperor.gatech.edu (Richard Pitts)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: I'm God.
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:17:00 GMT
Organization: CERL-EE, Georgia Institue of Technology

In article <ksand-280992192726@wintermute.apple.com> ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes:
|In article <69209@hydra.gatech.EDU>, rpitts@emperor.gatech.edu (Richard
|Pitts) wrote:
|> It is hard to see why you (Kent) seem to take the words Jesus said as
|> something by which to live or at least something with which to pressure 
|> others.  Yet, you discount the other words as being wrong.  The same
|> person wrote or assembled it all and for the sake of the argument, if the 
|> same person didn't - why use one part and not the other, for you don't
|> know what is what?  Remember after Jesus rose from the dead he explained 
|> to his disciples how all the scriputre (Law, Prophets, and Psalms) 
|> pertained to himself.
|
|Sigh, I guess we both don't like the fact if someone takes our opinions,
|and rewrites them. Right? Same with Jesus, he didn't say that the
|temple is his body, or what. That was done later by John.

YOU MISSED THE WHOLE POINT - you don't trust anything not written in
red.  I really don't see how you can trust those, since you are so
skeptical.

Kent, you use the Bible as some kind of tool, but I'm not sure what kind.
If the book is worth using, then use it - else how can you nit pick apart
ONLY the words in red - they look just like the others in the original
languages.

|> The fact that the disciple didn't understand some of what Jesus taught
|> is throughout the gospels - a later enlightenment gave them the understanding.
|> Jesus opened the disciples eyes.  He taught them.  You don't really see
|> the disciples teaching from the OT until after the Holy Spirit came, which
|> Jesus told them would lead them into all truth.  The eyes were opened.
|
|Ha! That's the problem, you call it englightenment, I call it rewrite
|of history. My eyes were also opened after I worked 2-3 years as a
|journalist,
|and saw the power of the word. One has to be quite naive to believe that
|the holy spirit provided the information. If this was the case we would
|still have the holy spirit working. And there are no registered and
|scientifically verified cases of this. If you mention Morris Cerullo,
|then I must say that I didn't like his style of kicking a person on the
|ground so he would start babbling in tongues (seen on TV).

Paul, your favorite, tells us that many preach out of greed and not
out of a good heart.  Cerullo gains no favor with me.

|> |Another point, if this was a true story, we would not have traditional Jews
|> |in Israel today, instead Messianic Jews.
|
|Why don't we have the majority of Jews that believe in Jesus? He did
|miracles in Israel for them?

Miracles don't convert - the heart has to be willing, like that of
a child.  You have to get rid of your pride - you can't save yourself.
No one can merit salvation by anything they do.  Mankind wants to work
to save themselves, but God confounded this by the cross and the simple
act of believing, if only one could get over thinking one could do it one's
self.

|Cheers,
|Kent

For Christ and His Kingdom,
Richard Pitts

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