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Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #197
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:56:09 GMT
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Info-Mac Digest             Mon, 17 Aug 92       Volume 10 : Issue 197

Today's Topics:

      [*] 3d-shapes.cpt.hqx
      [*] Adam Schenker's JPEG picture
      [*] AutoLock 1.2 (utility for children's games)
      [*] kermit-99-91.hqx
      [*] Roodcaps, a truetype CAPS font
      [*] Tetris Max 1.1
      3-D Image Construction
      <HYPERCARD XFNS & XCMDS>
      Aldus Intellidraw 1.0
      Analog to Digital Board
      Announcement: FileGuard interest group
      Another reason to use Nisus
      Apple IIe to Mac translation
      Bored with your Macintosh? (Q)
      cary-n-jon-morph.bin fixed!
      COBOL on a Mac?
      Data-Tech Institute Mac courses?
      Disk Doubler Tip
      Driver software for the Nodem
      Edge to Edge Printing--but not Top to Bottom on GCC PLP II
      Ethernet woes
      FKEYS: How to install (Q)
      FrameMaker (2 msgs)
      Hard Disk Crashes and SUM II
      Hard Drive Access (Summary)
      IIsi sound problem
      Info-Mac Digest V10 #196
      LaserOneCopy for 7.0?
      MAC LC with Apple II card.
      memory upgrade in Personal LW NT
      Morph & Jon Pugh
      MS Works 3.0 announced
      PC Exchange (R)
      PC WP 5.1 <--> Mac Word (A)
      Q: Hacking the System 7 Finder to widen the "Name" field
      Repair times (Q)
      SecureInit - Direct Software?
      STAR, what happened to the STAR gateway? (Q)
      Sub/Super-Scripts in Databases
      Superscripts and subscripts in a Mac Database (A)
      Superscripts and subscripts in a Mac Database ??
      System 7 problem/filenames locking
      typing on the desktop? what does it do?
      VMS Mail from a Mac (C)
      VT100 emulation on a Mac Plus? (R)
      When is a 105 Mb HD not a 105 Mb HD? (R) (A)
      Why are some partition names locked?
      Word 5 Can't Find It's Commands! (A)
      Word Alias under System 6
      Word Indexing

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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 8:35:17 HST
From: Christopher Zane <czane@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu>
Subject: [*] 3d-shapes.cpt.hqx

>Here's a movie that a friend of mine without internet access created. It
>contains examples of morphing, i.e. a sphere into a cone with various shapes
>in between.

This is a repost of the above moive. I guess something happened to the
original one as Simple Player said that there was no movie in the data
fork. sigh...

hope this one works.

chris

[Archived as /info-mac/art/qt/3d-shapes.hqx; 173K]

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 01:57:31 EDT
From: Adam Schenker (GE) <schenker@suntan.ec.usf.edu>
Subject: [*] Adam Schenker's JPEG picture

Thanks to king@acpub.duke.edu (King Rhoton) for scanning in my photo.
This is a JPEG compressed gray-scale picture of me, taken about 2 years
ago (I didn't have a more recent photo handy). I'm looking forward
to seeing some of your photos soon!

[Archived as /info-mac/art/mug/adam-schenker.hqx; 43K]

[Kindly direct your visual facilities to our newest directory, /art/mug,
 where the visages of various net inhabitants will amuse and delight
 you. -Bill]

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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 20:12:49 EDT
From: J S Greenfield <greeny@top.cis.syr.edu>
Subject: [*] AutoLock 1.2 (utility for children's games)

Note:  This version replaces version 1.1, which has been *mislabeled* as
       version 1.2 on some archives.  (Sumex, for example.)

 --------------------------

AutoLock 1.2.
Shareware fee: $8

AutoLock is a small application intended to alleviate some problems
associated with running children's applications (games, etc.) under the
System 7 Finder.  AutoLock can help to prevent small children from
accidentally sending a game to the background.  In addition, AutoLock
can salvage many old (but good!) games that are virtually impossible
to use under System 7.

Many existing children's applications were designed to run under
Finder, rather than under MultiFinder.  As most parents already know,
running these programs under MultiFinder allows a child to
accidentally send the application into the background, usually by
inadvertently clicking the mouse outside of the application window.  In
the old days, this problem could be avoided by moving the system
back to Finder mode.  For users of System 7, however, this alternative
is no longer available, since the system runs in a permanent
MultiFinder-type mode.

Furthermore, unlike the System 6 MultiFinder,  the System 7 Finder
moves to the foreground whenever the mouse is clicked anywhere on
the desktop.  As a result, even recent children's applications can be
accidentally sent to the background by an inadvertent click of the
mouse.  For small children, this can be a serious problem.

AutoLock solves this problem, by terminating the Finder and locking a
single application into the foreground.

AutoLock includes a small extension, LockSmith which can be used to
create AutoLock aliases that launch and automatically lock
applications.  Using an AutoLock alias, launching and automatically
locking an application is as easy as conventional launching.


Changes from version 1.1:

AutoLock 1.2 now permits locking an application into the foreground
while other applications continue to execute in the background.

AutoLock now uses a preference to allow the user to specify whether
or not background applications should be automatically ignored when
locking an application into the foreground.  When this option is not
set, AutoLock will query the user whether or not background
applications should be ignored.

AutoLock now uses a preference to allow the user to specify whether
or not AutoLock should actively lock the launched application into the
foreground.  When this option is not set, AutoLock will terminate the
Finder but will allow the "locked" application to be moved to the
background (so that the user may interact with other applications).

AutoLock supports its traditional mode of operation by appropriate
selection of preferences.

AutoLock now permits the user to lock an application even when it is
already running.  When AutoLock is directed to lock a document, and
the creator application is already running, AutoLock will lock the
creator and open the document (if possible).

AutoLock now supports two modes of operation: "Demo" mode, and
"Normal" mode.  AutoLock will execute in "Demo" mode until an
appropriate key (available through registration) is used to move
AutoLock into "Normal" mode.

 -------------------

[Archived as /info-mac/util/auto-lock-12.hqx; 54K]

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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 03:07:30 EDT
From: udbrooks@mcs.drexel.edu (The Big Bad B)
Subject: [*] kermit-99-91.hqx

MacKermit
version 0.99 (91)

I received this software package from another BBS.  It's an update
to the current version (version 0.98(63)).  Just another communications
software package that allows you to transfer files using Kermit.
Enjoy...later dudes.

--David Brooks

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/kermit-99-91.hqx; 231K]

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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 19:17 EST
From: Jason Osborne <V065HJKU@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu>
Subject: [*] Roodcaps, a truetype CAPS font

This is the truetype font called RoodCaps, a nice ( and very small) caps
font.  It is compressed with compact pro 1.33.

This fileuploaded courtesy of the Underground Phont Archive.
For more info on UPA, drop me a line.

Jason Osborne
v065hjku@ubvms.bitnet

BTW- if you have downloaded font-preview from sumex, it is pictured on the far
right hand side of the third PICT.  Remember to enlarge to 200%!
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Archived as /info-mac/font/tt/roodmaps.hqx; 10K]

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 01:20:23 EDT
From: slchambe@Athena.MIT.EDU
Subject: [*] Tetris Max 1.1

Changes in version 1.1:

* Fixed a bug that caused problems with the sound under system 6
* Changed to a more interesting scoring system
* Added more sounds
* Increased the dropping speed of blocks
* Added ability to start the game at an arbitrary level
* Control keys can be modified
* Better support for different monitor depths
* Other minor fixes
 -----------------------------------------------------------
Tetris Max is a colorful version of classic Tetris. It features cool-looking
256 color pieces, a music soundtrack that plays while the game is in progress,
and fun sound effects (advancing to the next level is announced by a
resounding
"moo.") The game works on all color Macs with a 12 inch or larger monitor,
under system 6 or 7.

Tetris Max is free. You are welcome to contact me if you have any questions,
comments, or suggestions about the game.

Steve Chamberlin
500 Memorial Drive
Cambridge, MA 02139

internet: slchambe@athena.mit.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/game/tetris-max-11.hqx; 414K]

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 10:38:54 EST
From: cxs207@cscgpo.anu.edu.au
Subject: 3-D Image Construction

Hello netters,

	I am posting a question for a student of mine. He is reconstructing
neurons and wants to find a program which does the following:

	- entry of 3-D coodinates, preferably as typed input.
	- joining the points by lines
	- measuring 3-D lines
	- rotate / translate / scale for viewing
	- print / plot drawings

     I have something in my mind that a program on one of the NIH serves
could do this kind of work. However, I cannot remember the address of the
server. Any idea on programs which could do this job, preferably PD
software?

	Thank you in advance



    Christian Stricker.

PS: Please mail to me directly: Christian.Stricker@anu.edu.au

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 10:43:19 +0100
From: S.F.Loftus@computing-maths.cardiff.ac.uk
Subject: <HYPERCARD XFNS & XCMDS>

ftp
Please, someone, send me as much information as possible on HyperCard.

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:10:45 GMT
From: tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Aldus Intellidraw 1.0

Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:
>Has anyone had experienced with this package?
>Is it really that great or is it just a rehash of
>MacDraw Pro ? <g>
>Shaw
MacWeek just reviewed it.  From what little I remember they were basically
impressed with the package for the most part but felt it had a lousy manual.
-Terry

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 16:18:02 -0400
From: "Arel Y. Weisberg" <weisberg@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
Subject: Analog to Digital Board

My lab is  looking to purchase an a/d board as well as associated software
for an Apple Macintosh computer.

Any help/advice/product info/tales of never-ending nightmares  would be
greatly appreciated.

Arel Weisberg
weisberg@phoenix.princeton.edu

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:55:47 -0500
From: Matthew Wall <wall@cc.swarthmore.edu>
Subject: Announcement: FileGuard interest group

For University/College users of FileGuard (tm) disk protection software
>From ASD/Highware Development...

A FileGuard Interest Group (fig ?!?) for University/College lab managers
ONLY is being established. This will be an unmoderated
immediate-mail-forwarding group with a SMALL and PRIVATE membership for the
discussion and exchange of information on specific technical problems and
solutions with using FileGuard in University lab management situations.
Please, educational or like institutions only; we want to keep this
focussed.

For further information or to request membership, please send email to Matt
Wall, wall@cc.swarthmore.edu with a descriptive subject header, such as
"Please sign up for FileGuard interest group" and a short description of
your lab set-up and your job title included in the message.

- Matt Wall * Swarthmore College

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 12:42 BST
From: Chris Hitchcock <CLH@VAX.OXFORD.AC.UK>
Subject: Another reason to use Nisus

Another reason to use Nisus is because it offers an educational price
of $99US to students, a hefty discount from their regular price. I
like using Nisus a great deal, but it was that great break for
students which convinced me to buy it.

Cheers,
Chris Hitchcock (clh@vax.ox.ac.uk)

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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 20:57:46 CDT
From: Andrew Vernon <AVERNON1@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Subject: Apple IIe to Mac translation

In reply to Scott E. Maxwell's question on AppleWorks to Mac translation:

A friend of mine recently switched to ClarisWorks, that slick new package
>From the guys who inherited MacWrite and AppleWorks. I only got a chance
to try it out for a few minutes, but I think the program supports importing
of AppleWorks files either internally or through a new set of XTND filters.
Plus, ClarisWorks would make a nice crossover to the Mac for anyone who's
worked with integrated packages in the past.

 ---------
    Andrew Vernon

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 08:27:04 EST
From: dks@MIT.EDU (dks)
Subject: Bored with your Macintosh? (Q)

How many of you are bored with your Macintosh?

Each time Apple announces a new machine or technology (T),
there is anticipation (A).  When the new thingie ships, there is
a brief infatuation (I), then frustration (F) when all your
applications die horrible deaths.  So you break the bank ($) to
pay for all the upgrades and updates and trade-ins.  Then, for a
few blissful months, your machine is stable (S), your
productivity (P) soars through the roof, and all is well in
the world.  Then, of course, Apple announces another new
machine or technology!

So, how many of you are bored with your Macintosh?

  What bizarre new technologies (T) would spice it up again?
  Can Apple do anything to heighten the anticipation (A)?
  Does the infatuation (I) turn into love or fade to grey?
  How can third-party developers help reduce the frustration (F)?
  Where *DO* you find the money ($) for all this stuff?
  If the stable period (S) were longer, would you just be *more* bored?
  Is this whole "productivity" thing (P) just a marketing scam?

Or are you so sick of the whole darned cycle that you just want out?


Dhanesh, dks@mit.edu

PS: Or is it OK to be bored with your Macintosh?
    After all, it's just a personal information device.

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 09:40:39 -0700
From: Jon Pugh <jpugh@apple.com>
Subject: cary-n-jon-morph.bin fixed!

My Morph movie of my wife and myself was uploaded incorrectly.  It is now
fixed.  If you had trouble, try it again.   The movie is stored on
ftp.apple.com as /pub/pugh/quicktime/cary-n-jon-morph.bin in MacBinary
format.

Jon

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 13:31:06 pdt
From: CTR_RESOURCE/SRJC_01@odie.santarosa.edu
Subject: COBOL on a Mac?

Hello!

I am about to take a COBOL class (Got to, it's the law...) and I was wondering
if anyone knew of a COBOL compiler for the Macintosh?

Thanks for your help!

Marshall McGowan
Internet: ctr_resource/srjc_01@odie.santarosa.edu

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 09:43 PDT
From: Philip Harriman                      <EGS2G1B@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>
Subject: Data-Tech Institute Mac courses?

Has anyone ever taken "The Macintosh Survival Course" from Data-Tech
Institute? Was it worth $795?

Thanks,

Phil

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Date: Sun, 17 May 92 17:20:26
From: bylsma@unixg.ubc.ca (Dieder)
Subject: Disk Doubler Tip

A friend of mine suggested this tip, and I tried it. It worked quite nicely
too!

If you want Disk Doubler to compress files really quickly, and you have
AutoDoubler installed, set it, in the settings option, to allow background
tasks. Then, select the files you wish to compress, start the process. Then,
put Disk Doubler in the background while in the finder, or in any other
multifinder-aware application. Then watch the compression rate go from only 7
k a second to 52k a second, if not higher!

It worked for me anyhow.

Dieder

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 12:30:03 MDT
From: Roger Marks <marks@bldr.nist.gov>
Subject: Driver software for the Nodem

I've (apparently) found a solution to my problem with using the Nodem (a SCSI
Ethernet interface device) under System 7.

Adaptec called me back to let me know that the Nodem has been
sold to a company call LRU, who are continuing to manufacture the
device. LRU offered to send me (at no charge) an updated installer
which will put the driver onto System 7. You can call LRU at
415-594-9697. To get the software, send a request by fax to M. George
at 415-595-4643.

		    Roger Marks/NIST/Boulder,CO

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 07:04:04 PDT
From: Paul Brians <BRIANS@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU>
Subject: Edge to Edge Printing--but not Top to Bottom on GCC PLP II

The GCC printers like the PLP II do indeed provide edge-to-edge printing.
That's why I bought one.  But note the precise wording of the claim.
There is still an unprintable band at the TOP and BOTTOM of each page.
This means no fulllsheets of mailing labels, but hand-pasting in strips
at top and bottom is easy compared to the hassle of trying to lay out
three-across labels that will print properly between those irritating
edge margins.

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 21:05:49 WET DST
From: Terence Mc Goff <terry%Kaitain.ucd.ie@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Ethernet woes

Hi folks,
	a tale of ethernet woes and strife. A Quadra, an LC, and a laserwriter
IIg live on an ethernet network, along with a Sparc, and several other
machines. All the Apple stuff has trancievers (apple new style ethernet
cards).
Connect the macs to the network with said trancievers,
and the Sparc dies a death.
Put Asante cards (without trancievers) or Asante SCSI ethernet adaptors,
and all is well. The laserwriter IIg works quite happily for 6 months,
and the next thing, it wont print, gives back time-out errors when pinged,
and generally annoys the hell out of everyone. Connect a Mac directly to
the printer, and all is well. Connect it back to the network, and it itmes
out and gives errrors on two other macs on the network. Use the printer on
local talk with an ethergate and all is well again. Does anyone have a clue
what is going on ? anyone any vauge idea? Anyone know who designed these
bloody trancievers, so I can stuff one into him/her?

		Any help would be appreciated
			Cheers,
			   Terry


Terence Mc Goff                         | Terry@Kaitain.ucd.ie

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Date: 17 Aug 1992 11:08:24 +0100 (MET)
From: HANS KROEGER <KROEGER@dornier.de>
Subject: FKEYS: How to install (Q)

Help needed!
I downloaded MOVE-WINDOW.HQX, debinhexed it and got MoveWindowFKEY.
....and now what?
Sorry about this "beginners question" but have not the slightest idea
how to install MoveWindowFKEY so that it becomes an FKEY.
Please help me........many thanks as usual!!
BTW: I am running 7.0.1 tuned on a Quadra 700.....
Hans Kroeger

kroeger@fn.dornier.de
kroeger@foca.dnet.nasa.gov

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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 19:44:03 CDT
From: Graeme Forbes <PL0BALF@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU>
Subject: FrameMaker

I should have said: there's a demo of FrameMaker that you can get by
calling Frame Technology. 408-433-3311, fax 433-1928. No 800 number
in either the digest list or the current Mac Product Registry.

Graeme Forbes

(perhaps first check out the /demo/ subdir at sumex)

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 07:46:12 -0400
From: Dave Saunders <inter01@worldlink.com>
Subject: FrameMaker

> FrameMaker sounds like a much better and bigger program than the hype which
> surrounded the pre-release of FullWrite Professional a couple of years
> back; it also works on many platforms so that the company is more secure in
> this product line (page layout/ high end WP).
>
> On the other hand, it costs: $A1350 RRP $A350 student price, compared to
> $A500 and $A130 respectively for Word 5 and $A450 and $A280 respectively
> for Nisus 3 (although the price is cheaper than buying Word +
> MacDraw + Theorist (for solving equations) + PageMaker...)

FrameMaker is a great program for creating and editing massive text
documents.

It is not without its flaws though...

1. Occasionally Copy and Cut fail to modify the ClipBoard. This is a real
pain when yo ucut a huge section of text and then find that it never found
its way to the ClipBoard. Frame confirmed the bug via email.

2. Unlike Quark, PageMaker, Nissus, and MS Word, you cannot wrap text around
graphics. Frame claims to be working on this feature.

3. It doesn't respond to many "Mac-like" that are fairly standard in the
current world. For example, when you select Restart or ShutDown in the Finder
with Frame running in the Background, the Finder is unable to convince Frame
to Quit, so you must do it manually before the ShutDown can continue.

There are a slew of little glitch in the interface, but I still recommend
FrameMaker 3.0 to anyone trying to work with massive text projects.
(I use it for software manuals.)

Dave Saunders

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 10:41:16 EDT
From: "Charles A. Patrick" <PATCHAS@VM.NRC.CA>
Subject: Hard Disk Crashes and SUM II

I am making this posting on behalf of a colleague who is not on the net (as
yet!). The sequence of events he outlines are scary to say the least. I for
one
 have had the same false sense of security in SUM's abilities to provide the
necessary back-up, even under System 7 (I have not previously seen any
postings
 or cautioning to suggest otherwise). Those who have upgraded to NUM should be
able to derive some satisfaction from this account, and those of us who felt
no
 urgency to take the plunge may want review our priorities. My colleagues
account follows:

"SUM II" utilities for the Macintosh contain a program
that saves a copy of the file allocation table (called
the "Volume Restore Record") to help you recover
>From certain hard disk crashes; but this program may have let
me down badly last week.  Unless I mishandled
the situation, this story could be a useful warning to
those of you who have felt comforted by having SUM
SHIELD (that's the name of the program) save a copy of
the Volume Restore Record (VRR) every time you shut down.
Here's the sequence of events:
% Suddenly the Mac refuses to boot from the hard disk.
% I boot the Mac with the SUM II recovery disk, and
I ask SUM RECOVER to look for the VRR on the crashed disk.
% It reports that the VRR it found was last updated on May 21.
% I think, "wow, I'd better get my latest floppy backup
copy of the VRR", and I found it was dated July 27 (I just
learned the hard way not to be lazy about keeping these
backups up to date!).  THIS "July 27" date is from the Finder.
% Knowing the importance of recovering files changed since
July 27,  I run the file recovery routine and ask it to sort
the 'found' files by date. Guess what? NO DATES are
shown on the screen, and since the file names are mostly
wrong I basically have little help figuring out which are
indeed the files changed or created since July 27. At that
point I felt PANIC.
% I restarted the volume restore program and told it to
to use the VRR on the floppy disk. Guess what? It reported
that the VRR on the floppy disk was last updated May 21!!
NOW I'M ABOUT TO GO UP THE WALL!
% I calmed down after leaving the office to
take my daughter to a modern opera (can't stand operatic
singing).
% Returning to the office that night, I made the CRUCIAL
ERROR  -- I decided that since I was 100% sure that
SUM SHIELD had updated the VRR when I shut down the
day before the crash, and the restore program was reporting
the same May 21 "last updated date" both for the VRR
on the hard disk and that on the floppy, the
the dating function in the restore program must be wrong
and I should go ahead and tell the program to use the
VRR on the hard disk.
% The restore program ran and NO FILE was dated after May 21!
%  After phoning Symantec and got the advice to use Norton
Utilities, which had just arrived in the office, I did recover
some files dated after May 21; but guess what  ... the file
allocation tables of all post-May 21 files are messed up.
Every binary file dated after May 21
has a "glitch" in it. So I have got back to thing I most wanted
to avoid --  rebuilding the hard disk from back-ups of files
located on miscellaneous floppies located "all over God's
kingdom".  If I crash a specific valuable file, I can usually quickly
locate the floppy where a recent copy is stored; but to do
so on the scale required to re-build an 80-meg hard disk
is quite an experience! Some 24 hours later, I had replaced about
40% (the amount I needed to get back to my work) of the
"glitched" files.  During those 24 hours I did NO other work.
and there was a bunch of urgent stuff on my desk!
The other 60% will be replaced as and when needed
over the next few weeks.
		   End of event sequence.
What an experience!  My first consequential hard disk failure.
Funny thing is this -- I frequently have floppy disk
failure and I have often remarked on the fact that many
articles are written about recovering from hard disk
failure when, as far as I could see, floppy disk failure
is much more likely to be the problem. NOW I know why
writing those articles was a good idea  -- it's just amazing
how expensive (in lost productive time and frustration)
a hard disk failure can be!
Now I'm getting ready to abandon SUM II and set up the
parallel function in Norton Utilities; but I must admit that
I am wondering whether the whole thing is not a waste of time!
After all I might have lost the least time by simply having
a program recover what files it could by "scavening" the
hard disk without the aid of a supposedly helpful copy
of the file allocation table!
Did I do something wrong here?  Or is there a serious problem
with SUM SHIELD? It was set up to update the VRR every time
I shut down, which is daily, and you cannot mistake that black
shield on the screen and the time you have to wait while
it is supposedly updating the VRR.  It surely did that the
evening before the crash day. So why the XXXX did the
recovery program tell me that the VRR was last
updated on May 21?

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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 23:29:27 -0800
From: Scott Allen Gruby <sgruby@jarthur.Claremont.EDU>
Subject: Hard Drive Access (Summary)

In response to my question:
>My question is when does the Mac access the System/System Folder? I have my
>system on my internal 40 and all my applications and other stuff on my
>external and I keep seeing the lights blink from one drive to the other
>just about every operation it performs.

Wade Williams (wadew@DUCVAX.AUBURN.EDU) writes:

It access the System/System folder for just about every operation it
performs.  I wouldn't worry about it.

Thanks.

Scott Gruby
sgruby@jarthur.claremont.edu

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:16:10 GMT
From: dave@prc.unisys.com (David Lee Matuszek)
Subject: IIsi sound problem

In article <92224.205851BGD1@psuvm.psu.edu> BGD1@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Sometimes my Mac IIsi becomes silent, regardless of the program that's
>running--it happens even if the finder is the only "appl." running.  Less
>frequently, my Mac acts as if the sound control panel were set on 0 (i.e.,
>the menu bar flashes).  Resetting the volume to LOUD (6-7) and then back
>down to 2 were I keep it solves the problem for a while.  I've checked for
>viruses.  It's running system 7.0 plus TuneUp.  Any ideas?  thanks.

 -----------------------------------------------------------------------

Time to post this again.  [I revised it slightly to incorporate
suggestions from other net folk.  Thanks, everybody.]  This needs to
go in a FAQ list somewhere.

It is a well-known phenomenon that the sound vanishes from time to
time on the Mac IIsi.  This happens under both System 6.07, System
7.0, and System 7.01.  It occurs with or without System 7 Tune Up
1.1.1, and presumably with earlier versions of Tune Up as well. It has
also been known to happen on the LC, but seems to be less common
there.

My experience is that the problem only occurs at lower sound levels (4
and under).  At levels 6 and 7, the problem never occurs.  Also, as
far as I know, the problem never occurs with external speakers.  I'd
be glad to hear from anyone whose experience is not consistent with
this.

The three main theories are:

(1) Corrosion build-up on the speaker contacts.

Those who maintain this suggest snapping out the hard drive above the
speaker and carefully cleaning the contacts with a pencil eraser.
This is really simple to do (I take no responsibility, of course), and
you can clean the contacts for the disk light at the same time.  (I
also pushed my disk light into place so that it was more visible from
outside; it hadn't been put in well.)  My experience was that (1) the
contacts looked perfectly shiny and clean, and (2) the problem did
seem to diminish for a while.  I think.

The major problem with this theory is that the sound can be restored
by software.  Just open the control panel, turn the sound up loud, and
turn it back again.  I've heard it suggested that the higher volume
"burns through" the corrosion, but (1) in my experience corrosion
doesn't work that way, and (2) if it were corrosion I would expect a
lot more randomness and in the effectiveness of this process; but it
seems to be completely reliable.

(2) Erroneous use of the sound manager by applications.

IMHO, I think this theory is wrong.  It is true that Apple has made
incompatible changes to the sound manager, and many programs have
broken on this.  However, there is no discernable pattern to the sound
drop-outs; it seems to happen (or not happen) to any program.  The
thing that most convinces me this theory is wrong, though, is that I
entered the code for playing sounds straight from Mark & Reed's
Macintosh programming primer (Pascal version), and I had the sound
drop out when using that program.  The source code is right there in
black and white, and if anyone sees what's wrong with it, I'd sure
like to know.

Another problem with this theory is that it is hard to see why erroneous
use of the sound manager would cause the sound to cut out on the internal
speaker, but not on external speakers.

(3) A persistent bug in the operating system.

The main thing this theory has going for it is that the other theories
don't seem to fit the facts terribly well.  If this is the correct
explanation, the only course is to wait for Apple to figure it out and
fix it.  I spoke once (via e-mail) to someone at Apple who said he was
working on the problem; I sent him what I knew, but never heard from
him again.

The main problem with this theory is that there have been reports that
banging the front of the computer sometimes restores the sound.  I
haven't tried this myself; I have too much respect for my internal
hard drive.

ADVICE:

1.  Keep the sound level loud; this keeps the problem from occurring.

2.  When the problem occurs, reset the volume to loud, then back to
    where you want it.  Alternatively, download an FKEY from sumex
    that does this for you:  it's at info-mac/fkey/reset-sound.hqx .
    DON'T bang the computer (there's a hard drive in there!).

3.  Carefully clean the speakers contacts with a pencil eraser.

4.  Use external speakers.  Failing that, poke a jack of the proper kind
    into and out of the external speaker port a couple of times; some
    people report that this (temporarily) fixes the problem.

5.  Hassle Apple to come up with a permanent fix.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 09:44:52 CDT
From: PULLMANN@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #196

>I was under the impression that the inability of LaserWriters to print from
>edge to edge was essentially due to inadequate availability of RAM. Well it
>seems I had the wrong impression. Our LaserWriter IIf with 5MB RAM is unable
>to
> perform thus. In terms of margins, it prints exactly as it did when it was
an
>NT: 0.5 inches from the edge without larger print area; and a smidgen over
>5/16 inches with larger print area.
>
>Why can the BLP Elite do it and not the LW?

I think that the minimum margins are required by the paper feed mechanism
of the LaserWriters.  If I'm wrong, I hope one of the large number of
folks who know more about such things than I do will correct me . . . ;).

BTW, I know that subject headings that say "RE: INFOMAC whatever" are not
very useful, but I haven't figured out how to use the reply text option
and introduce a new subject header in the same piece of mail--when I try
to edit the subject I screw up the mail and it becomes undeliverable.
Please forgive the unhelpful subject lines 'till I figure out what I'm
doing wrong . . .

Pat Ullmann  PULLMANN@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU or PULLMANN@TRINITY (BITNET)

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 08:50:22 EST
From: Dan <dan@blackadder.dickinson.edu>
Subject: LaserOneCopy for 7.0?

Does anyone know if there is a version of LaserOneCopy for the system 7
driver?
We need something to restrict users to only one copy; we've tried hacking the
driver ourselves but so far it's no go. Help!

Thanks.


Dan

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 01:04:27 EST
From: eprie <eprie@ccmail.aa.hcia.com>
Subject: MAC LC with Apple II card.

    Hi all,  I've got a bizarre (?) problem.  I need to be able to
    read data from Apple II e diskettes (5 1.4") onto a MAC LC.

    We've purchased a MAC LC with the Apple II card, but nothing in
    the doco says we can share data between the operating systems.
    The wonderful local salespeople said we could if we used PRODOS to
    format the hard disk, hat we could copy from 5 1/4" to the hard
    disk then bring up SYSTEM 7 and read the PRODOS partition.

    Does this sound kosher?  I cant find anything in the doco about
    PRODOS having any access to the local drive at all.

    As an alternative, I'm willing to try copying to a localtalk disk,
    but the setup option doesnt show any local talk capability.
    (Neither does the doco, but again the salespeople said it would
    work.)

    Thanks, Eric Priebe

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 20:28:52 CDT
From: gray@cmgroup.engr.wisc.edu (Gary L. Gray)
Subject: memory upgrade in Personal LW NT

Has anyone out there upgraded the memory in a Personal LaserWriter
NT?  I want to go from 2 MB to 8MB and I have the SIMMs in hand.
I was just wondering how easy it is and if there is any sage
advice someone can give me?

Thank you for the help.

Gary L. Gray                 *   Engineering Mechanics and Astronautics
gray@cmgroup.engr.wisc.edu   *   University of Wisconsin-Madison

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 10:35:26 EST
From: George Tempel <tempel@Monmouth-ETDL1.Army.MIL>
Subject: Morph & Jon Pugh

Has anyone been able to successfully un-munge Jon Pugh's morph movie on
ftp.apple.com in /pub/pugh/quicktime/cary-n-jon-morph.bin?

I've tried both binary and text transfers, and none of the resulting files are
recognizable as MacBinary or anything else...what gives? I'm dying to see how
the Morph software works for us mere mortals. My co-worker and I just couldn't
come up with enough of an excuse to plop down the money to buy a copy at
MacWorld. Sigh.


"Oh no, not again..."--Douglas Adams

george f tempel
tempel@monmouth-etdl1.army.mil (144.252.1.1)
netromancr@aol.com (AmericaOnline)

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 11:51:17 CDT
From: bwalls@marvin.msfc.nasa.gov
Subject: MS Works 3.0 announced

I just called Microsoft to check on the availability of Works, and
they are taking money now -- shipping is around the beginning of
September.  Upgrade price was about $79.99.  It's $6 if you purchased
a version since 6/1/92.  They say it's 32 bit clean, which will be
nice on my 10MB LC.

I'm only using 2.2 now for database stuff anyway.  Is there an elegant
replacement?  I've started using Word and Excel since I found out
Microsoft allows that now.  If you are the main user at work (ie. it's
on a machine that's primarily yours), you are free to take home the
software and use it there.  This applies to most, but not all, of their
products excluding OS's and language/compiler products.

Which makes me think, I might switch over to FoxBASE, except I don't really
like it...

Bryan Walls
bwalls@marvin.msfc.nasa.gov

------------------------------

Date: 16 Aug 1992 21:53:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: CHABINML@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu
Subject: PC Exchange (R)

    This is a summary of a number of responses which I received in regard to
my question about PC Exchange.

    I received mostly favorable reviews of PC Exchange with most agreeing that
it is light years ahead of Apple File Exchange.  One comment of note was the
need to have compatible file types on both platforms for the
transfer, that is having a Word for Windows file that you want to use on
the Mac, which is a limitation of the program.  Still I received mostly
positive reviews.

   A number of people also recommended a program called Access PC which will
run under system 6.0x whereas PC Exchange needs System 7.  Access PC
apparently
offers a few more features than PC Ex, but I did not recieve a detailed list
of what it does that PC Ex doesn't.

   Thanks to everyone who wrote.

							   Michael Chabinyc

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 11:05:51 -0500 (EST)
From: spn@ideas.com (Shawn P. Neugebauer)
Subject: PC WP 5.1 <--> Mac Word (A)

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:

>On Tue, 11 Aug 92 23:19:27 EDT you said:
>>I would like to import files made with Word Perfect 5.1 on an IBM clone to
>>my Mac. I plan on using Word 5.0 on the Mac to add to these files. I was
>>thinking of Mac Link or Apple PC Exchange. What does the net recommend?

>>Seeing that these files are computer generated forms, I would like to
>>conserve the exact formatting.

We've had great success just allowing Word 5 to convert WP5.1 files.
Tables, fonts, headers, footers, and some other stuff have converted just
fine.  Margins needed to be adjusted due to different fonts, but that's
too be expected.

My advice is to use AccessPC or some similar utility to mount the PC
disk (easily) on the Mac desktop, then just open the file from Microsoft
Word 5, select the correct converter, and clean up the converted
document.

At least try it.  It's cheaper than purchasing MacLink, etc.

-shawn-

spn@ideas.com

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 11:02:45 -0500
From: Matthew Wall <wall@cc.swarthmore.edu>
Subject: Q: Hacking the System 7 Finder to widen the "Name" field

Under System 6, one could use one of several programs to modify certain
parameters of the Finder, such as font style, size, default window view,
etc. Many of these features have been incorporated into vanilla System 7.
One modification I miss and which won't work on System 7 (Layout Plus,
etc.) is the ability to rearrange the defaults for the width and display of
filename, date, version, etc. under the "View by Name" or "View by date"
views. (In particular, I want to be able to see all 31 characters in a
file's name when viewing by name.)

Does anybody

(a) know of a utility to do this in System 7, or
(b) have instructions on how to do this with ResEdit?

thanks

- Matt Wall
wall@cc.swarthmore.edu

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 14:54:00 CDT
From: A. Scottedward Hodel <Dr.A.Scottedward.Hodel@eng.auburn.edu>
Subject: Repair times (Q)

Last July 2 I dropped of my Mac for repair at a local authorized service
dealer; a week later I was told that a part was on order from Apple (analog
board).  The part just arrived today (Aug 17)  6 1/2 weeks later.  I know to
expect variations from customer to customer, but my dad is bragging about a 1
week repair turnaround on his mail-order PC.  Is this typical of Apple's
repair record, or am I just having a bad summer?

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 22:45:07 +0100
From: L C Willoughby <ucca021@ucl.ac.uk>
Subject: SecureInit - Direct Software?

Could anyone tell me the fax/phone/address of Direct Software who I think
distribute SecureInit?

Thanks

Charles Willoughby
Department of Chemistry
University College London
UK

------------------------------

Date: 17 Aug 1992 11:46:20 +0100 (MET)
From: HANS KROEGER <KROEGER@dornier.de>
Subject: STAR, what happened to the STAR gateway? (Q)

STAR, what happened to the STAR gateway? (Q)
We used for months the STAR gateway from SPAN (DECnet Internet) into the
INTERNET in order to send Mail to RICEVM1.RICE.EDU or SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU,
and also to receive our Info-Mac Digests.
However since a couple of days we did not receive the Digests nore can we
send Mail to RICEVM1.RICE.EDU or SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU.
Does anybody know more about this problem ?

Hans Kroeger
kroeger@fn.dornier.de
kroeger@foca.dnet.nasa.gov

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 10:48:58 PDT
From: kroemer@ece.ucsb.edu (Herb Kroemer)
Subject: Sub/Super-Scripts in Databases

In #196, Jim Allison writes

>Does anyone in etherSpace know of a Mac or even a PC database which can
handle
>superscripts
>or subscripts.  FileMaker Pro, reputedly the most graphically sophisticated
of
>the Mac databases,
>can neither create superscripts or subscripts nor display them when they are
>copy/pasted from
>WordPerfect.

Having tried to use asorted Mac DB programs to keep track of scientific
stuff, with lots of S&S-Scripts, I have cursed this inability ever since
the unlamented days of Microsoft File -- and the situation hasn't become
much better.

The following is a workaround of sorts, satisfactory in some cases, but not
in others: There exist many special fonts*) that contain S&S-scripts in
regular keyboard positions. Some DB programs -- FileMaker is one of them --
permit multiple fonts in a single field, and you can then use the special
fonts there. That technique is also usable in other programs that can
handle multiple fonts, but no S&S-scripts.

Please don't anybody tell me the drawbacks of that scheme: I know them!

*) Get yourself an Adobe catalog, and look for things called 'Expert'
fonts, like 'Minion Expert,' etc.



----

Regards,

Herb K.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 08:49:53 MST
From: Bruce Long <ICBAL%ASUACAD.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Superscripts and subscripts in a Mac Database (A)

In a previous article, Jim Allison <JALLISON@vax.clarku.edu> wrote:

>Does anyone in etherSpace know of a Mac or even a PC database which can
handle
>superscripts or subscripts.  FileMaker Pro, reputedly the most graphically
>sophisticated of the Mac databases, can neither create superscripts or
>subscripts nor display them when they are copy/pasted from WordPerfect.

If you have a database which allows multiple fonts in a field (such as
HyperCard 2.x), you can use my old freeware font Hi-Low to put
subscripts and superscripts in a field.

Bruce Long
Department of Mathematics
Arizona State University
icbal@asuvm.inre.asu.edu

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 16:48:28 -0400
From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Subject: Superscripts and subscripts in a Mac Database ??

In comp.sys.mac.digest Jim Allison writes:

>Does anyone in etherSpace know of a Mac or even a PC database which can
handle
>superscripts
>or subscripts.  FileMaker Pro, reputedly the most graphically sophisticated
of
>the Mac databases,
>can neither create superscripts or subscripts nor display them when they are
>copy/pasted from
>WordPerfect.

The Filemaker Pro 2.0 demo that I saw at MacWorld involved sub/super
scripting. Now, they didn't paste it back and forth to anywhere but I
would assume that FM Pro can work with the clipboard as well as any other
Mac app.

So... if you have time to spare, wait for FM Pro 2.0, I am.

-Geoff

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 11:22:09 EDT
From: Christopher Chung <CHRIS@BROWNVM.brown.edu>
Subject: System 7 problem/filenames locking

I am running System 7.01 with Tuneup 1.1.1 installed.  Recently I have
noticed that filenames keep "locking up."  In other words, I can't change
the names of certain folders and files.  If I make a duplicate of them, I
can change the name on the duplicate but the original file/folder remains
locked.  Has anyone else experienced this problem?  If so, what is the
caused/fix?  Is there some bit that gets set that might lock the file?
I checked with Resedit and couldn't find anything strange and no
the LOCKED bit is not set.

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.  Please send responses to
me directly as I am not a regular reader of the list.  I will post a
summary of the responses to the list.

Thanks,
Chris
chris@brownvm.brown.edu
chris@brownvm.bitnet

------------------------------

Date: 14 Aug 92 16:08:00 -0700
From: PORTIGAL_STEVE@tandem.com
Subject: typing on the desktop? what does it do?

While sitting idly one Friday afternoon at work, I noticed that while
looking at my desktop (hard disk, trash, and one application) typing various
keys would select different items. It seems that certain keys are associated
with certain objects (based on the order of the character set), but this
is not related to the first letter of the object.

What *IS* going on here, anyway?

Steve Portigal

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 08:18:36 +0000
From: pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk (Mike Brudenell)
Subject: VMS Mail from a Mac (C)

In Info-mac Digest 195 Rusty Powell writes:

>> Be cautious...  using Digital's PathWorks software turns your Mac
>> (effectively) into a DECnet node.
>
>  True.
>
>> This means that mail can certainly be sent/forwarded to you
>> (MACNAME::USERNAME) but has ramifications if you switch your Mac off (say
>> overnight).
>
>  False.  "Mail for Macintosh" uses a client/server model to talk to the VMS
>mail host.  All mail is still on the VAX host and accessible via the regular
>VMS mail services.  The Mac talks to a process on the VAX (PCSA$Mail_xxxx)
>that
>pushs mail down to the Mac handles tha actual sending.
>
>  If you can live with the feature set of VMS/Mail, "Mail for Macintosh",
part
>of the PathWorks prodcut, is a nice "front-end" (I'm using it now), an I can
>still access my mail from home with "good old VMS/Mail and dial-up".

Sorry, Rusty, but this is not true of the version of Pathworks for
Macintosh we are using (v 1.0).  Perhaps you have a leter version?  If so
are there any other new features (we only have File/Print services, plus
DAL & DECnet gateway)

Actually I correct my earlier posting... apparently the "NetMail" utility I
was thinking of when referring to people mailing you on the Mac as a DECnet
node was actually a part of TSSnet (which Digital seems to have largely
included, except for Mail, in Pathworks for Macintosh).
--
		Mike B-)                        pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 22:55 CDT
From: "William M. Porter" <WMPORTER@Jetson.UH.EDU>
Subject: VT100 emulation on a Mac Plus? (R)

Thanks to the several netters who responded to my query about using a Mac Plus
to emulate a VT100 terminal. Apparently the Mac Plus keyboard does not (did
not) "naturally" support such an emulation. My friend's problem was, however,
really with the software. She was using QuickLink II, which for this case was
insuficient. We got her into White Knight today and her problems are solved.
She's pleased, knowing that even her old Mac Plus allows her to piggyback on
our VAX and thus go online with the world!

William Porter / University of Houston

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 13:18:08 -0400
From: bilver!vicstoy!n1mnb!brad@peora.sdc.ccur.com (Brad Ackerman)
Subject: When is a 105 Mb HD not a 105 Mb HD? (R) (A)

<I can use any of those programs to get 42+ Mb out
of my Apple (Quantum 40) hard drive, but I can only
get 100 Mb out of my Tsunami (Quantum 105) drive.>

Nope, but you CAN get 200 meg out of it...by installing Times Two, a
most cool utility from Golden Triangle, kinda like a Mac version of
Stacker.  (I am NOT affiliated with Golden Triangle, just a wowed
customer who happens to have a copy of x2 on order).

Times Two is a driver that installs over your current one (NOTE:
incompatible with other drivers like SilverLining) and compresses at
the driver level, requiring no memory space.  Much better than
AutoDoubler, although it is three times the price, at $149 list.
I was lucky, I saw their booth at Macworld, quoted my plastic, and got
a copy for $49!  If the final release (in 2wks) is as good as the beta
that was demonstrated, this program will drive AutoDoubler's sales into
the ground!

-Brad Ackerman    n1mnb@vicstoy.oau.org

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 13:42:57 PDT
From: Stephen Humphrey <shumphre@aludra.usc.edu>
Subject: Why are some partition names locked?

What would make two of the four disk partitions on my APS Quantum 240
external drive refuse to allow their names or icons to be changed?  I tried
everything except whatever it is I need to do.

Setup:  SE/30, 5 Meg, System 7.0.1 Tuneup 1.1.1, standard APS driver

Sorry, this is probably something simple I am overlooking, but I couldn't
find anything in Sys 7 manuals or in various FAQ files.

Stephen Humphrey (shumphre@aludra.usc.edu)

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 14:44:49 -0400
From: "Keith E Gatling" <kgatling@mailbox.syr.edu>
Subject: Word 5 Can't Find It's Commands! (A)

David Elbert <ELBERT%MIDD.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU> had a bit of a
problem with Word 5.0 not being able to find its "commands" when moved out
of the folder with everything else, and was wondering if there were some
sort of solution to the problem.  I think I have one.

Well, as you stated, the obvious System 7.x solution is to leave the
application where it "belongs" and then create an alias that you put on
your desktop.  But what to do about System 6.x?  Simple...create a locked
startup document called "Word Startup" and put *that* on the desktop.  When
the user double-clicks on that, it should kick her right into MS Word just
as if she had clicked on the application icon itself.

Hope this was helpful.

keg

* Keith E Gatling                                  kgatling@mailbox.syr.edu *

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 20:39:54 CDT
From: Andrew Vernon <AVERNON1@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Subject: Word Alias under System 6

In response to the post on making a Microsoft Word alias work under
System 6:

The reason you can make an alias of Word under System 7 and get it to
work under System 6 also, is because an alias is just a document with
the proper creator code and a file type which Word can't recognise.
In fact, you can get away with creating a file in any program, and
changing the type & creator with your favorite hacking util. As long
as you avoid file types Word can read (ie: TEXT, WDBN, WORD (MacWrite)
etc), you'll just get something you can double-click and Word can't read,
which causes Word to create a new document. I haven't played around with
this much (after all, I am a System 7 user), but you could probably do
this with other programs as well. (save an extra copy of your QuarkXPress
user dictionary on the desktop to use as a Quark "alias," for example.)

--Andrew Vernon

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 23:29:21 -0800
From: Scott Allen Gruby <sgruby@jarthur.Claremont.EDU>
Subject: Word Indexing

I need some help.

I am working on a 50 page document in Word (It is 5.5" x 8.5"-half page
booklet) and am trying to generate an index. What I would like is a break
after each letter changes. I would like to do this automatically and enter
the letter of the section. I can easilly add the breaks after I generate
the index, but I don't want to keep fixing it after I regenerate the index.


I have used PageMaker's indexing to do this and it works well, is there an
equivalent feature in Word that I am missing? I have looked all through the
Indexes section in the manual.

(I was able to put in the letters for the sections, but they appear in the
same style as everything else. I thought about doing subentries, but
couldn't think of a way that this would work.)

Please reply by email, and I will post a summary.

Responders: by responding to this message you agree to allow me to use your
email (or parts thereof) in a summary or in individual responses.

Thanks.

Scott Gruby
sgruby@jarthur.claremont.edu

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 09:32:30 GMT
From: news@unixg.ubc.ca

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest