HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: drury@helix.nih.gov (Richard Drury)
Subject: Re: knife techniques
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:50:43 GMT

In article dpipes@spica.srg (Dave Pipes x4552) writes:
>I don't know...I agree with Suppasak (if I got the attribution right...).
>Kali, Arnis, Escrima, Bando, JiuJutsu all have some very frightening methods
>for using knives, and they all train extensively with them, rather than just
>run some seminars.  Most of these folks will know quite well what to do
>against another knife or stick armed opponent, *as well as* an unarmed one.

Yes, most kali/arnis/escrima people know well how to use a knife
against an unarmed opponent.  And I'll take your word for it wrt
bando and jj people.  But I would call your attention to the
fact that these folks also train extensively in the reverse
situation, i.e., empty hand vs. knife.  And they don't do this
just to be good nage for their training partners.  They do it
with the intention of winning against the knife.

>Meanwhile, most of us are not fully aware of how these folks move and attack,
>and do not train assiduously unarmed against blades.  Even if a style does,
>it must train against a fast, deceptive, continuous motion style of attack
>in order to be of help.  These guys are not going to come in with one big
>overhand stab, or stick their hands out where you can kick them.  They are
>going to methodically slice you, a bit at a time, again and again and again.
>Very hard to deal with.

Very.  But dealing with it beats the alternative.

>Obviously, the Filipino folks who survive this kind of attack a) trained in
>a style which allowed them to deal with the attacker's style and b) were not
>among the people who *lost* such an encounter.  Who knows what the proportion
>is?

Yes, dead men tell no tales and live ones don't always tell the 
truth.  So, in the end, as always, you have to judge for yourself.  
--
Richard A. Drury
drury@helix.nih.gov
From: don@helix.nih.gov (donald seto)
Subject: Re: 10th Dan
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 15:47:00 GMT

In article <40028.312921040@onyx.kiwi.gen.nz> mark@onyx.kiwi.gen.nz (Mark Goldie) writes:
>I have been told that the rank of 10th dan is not held by anyone in the
>world and has not been for 100's of years, as my instructor is 5th dan
>and the Kancho-Sensei of Chidokan is 7th dan, I find it difficult to accept
>that there is not someone out of 3 billion people who hold a rank three
>grades higher. 
> 
> Mark (Only Sankyu but I'm getting there)

you are assuming 3 billion people practice some form of MA?

how would you get to 10 dan if you have to be tested by someone(s)
with higher rank?  


[yes, i now, by this logic, no one should be dan 9, 8, 7...as the top die
off unless your peers "elect" you to their rank]

--
don@helix.nih.gov
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Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: thorick@sybase.com (Thorick Chow)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Badass Karate (-Do?)
Keywords: Toughness, Pain.
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:57:06 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <1992Nov2.110731.1984@ms.uky.edu> taddiken@ms.uky.edu (scott taddiken) writes:
>
>I've heard about a game played in Wales, in which two people grab each other
>by the shoulders and kick each other repeatedly in the shins.  With hard shoes
>on.  The loser is the first to disengage.  It's not clear that this is a
>martial art, but it certainly is the most excruciating combat-type game I've
>ever heard of.
>

Check out the Yanamamo (sp ?) of Brazil who have chest beating contests,
the first one to pass out loses.

(In my more stupid younger days I used to fantasize about learning
 "Iron Shirt" Chi Gung, then going down there to be king of the pack....
 Now that I'm a little older and not *as* stupid, I shudder to
 think of what responsibilities might come along with that title !)

-t.c.




--
"..according to Chinese law, most suicides are considered criminal offenses
against Socialism and the Communist Party.  When someone takes his own life
members of the family are often punished, on the principle that they must have
either condoned or been influenced by the 'incorrect thought'.." -Iron & Silk
From: dunger@crsa.bu.edu (David Unger)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Shaolinji Konshin Ryu Kempo
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:52:47 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Boston University Center for Remote Sensing


	Will anyone who has taken Shaolinji Konshin Ryu Kempo
or wants info on it please contact me. Thanks.

E-mail: dunger@crsa.bu.edu
From: garry@alice.att.com (garry hodgson)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Flashlight as legal weapon ( Re: Flail legality )
Summary: legal weapons, again
Keywords: weapons, flashlights
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:22:57 GMT
Reply-To: garry@alice.UUCP ()
Distribution: rec
Organization: AT&T, Bell Labs

In article <50690070@hpindda.cup.hp.com> krause@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Mike Krause) writes:

[flail (nunchaku) questions deleted]

>Well, having been told that my three-sectional staff qualified as a 
>nunchak by a police officer with his hand on his gun standing behind
>his car and making me set it down while 50 ft. away, I think being
>arrested is a strong possibility.  It is a felony to carry one except
>in the context of going to or from a martial arts event/training area.
>One cannot have it concealed, etc. or have it in easy reach to be used.
>One may own or possess one for training purposes, etc.

Ignoring the sickening state of affairs that makes it a felony to
possess items to protect yourself, in a society where the Supreme
Court has ruled that the police have no obligation to do so:

There has been discussion from time to time in this newgroup
about favorite weapons to carry legally.  Many are fond of various
flashlights.  I personally carry a Mini-Maglite on a nylon wrist
strap that makes a pretty good nunchacku, and a great yawara stick.

Well, I noticed the other night, while looking through the new Cold
Steel Special Projects catalog, a new light they are selling, clearly
intended for weapons use.  For those interested, info follows:

	17" long, 1" diameter, 1/4" inch wall aircraft aluminum
	double knurled grip panels
	lexan lens, shock mounted bulb
	7 AA batteries, 20K candlepower

It's called, <grimace>, "The Brute", and costs $59.95, or 2 for $100 (YOW!)
I won't speculate on how effectively you could convince Officer Friendly
that it's not a weapon.  I just thought y'all might want to know
about it.

By the way, they also sell 3 different strengths of Capsicum spray.
They also sell inert units for practice use, and strongly recommend
that you practice with them before you might need the real ones.
Seems like good advice.

And, of course, they also sell a variety of knives, for those more
concerned with staying alive than staying legal.

You can order a catalog by calling: 800 255-4922.

Needless to say, I am not affiliated with Cold Steel, other than owning
a number of their keenly edged products.

-- 
Garry Hodgson			A slow winter day
AT&T Bell Labs			A night like forever
garry@alice.att.com		Sink like a stone
att!alice!garry			Float like a feather
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary)
Subject: Re: Beginner's questions about Chi
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:46:09 GMT

In article <17337@mindlink.bc.ca> Frank@mindlink.bc.ca (Frank I. Reiter) writes:
>1) Chi seems most often to be translated as "Energy".  From what I've read,
>"Life force" seems to be another apt translation.  Would you agree with that?

In general: I think the term could be applied to non-living things as
well, but in the case of something alive that wouldn't be a bad translation.

>2) There is much talk about how chi flows - is it someimes also static or is
>it always in motion?

I think "flowing" is just a good analogy: If you try to "flow" chi into
your hands, the net effect is to concentrate it there. But thinking
of it as a flow helps to achieve this result.

>3) I have read references to "Generating chi".  Does this mean that chi can
>be created or is "Generating chi" really refering to "Generating a flow of
>chi" ?

I'm not sure about "created", but one's chi can definitely be weaker
or stronger depending on what you do. Perhaps "building up" or "strengthening"
chi might be a better description of it...

                                                 Frank Crary
                                                 CU Boulder
From: sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Badass Karate (-Do?)
Keywords: Toughness, Pain.
Date: 8 Nov 92 06:12:56 GMT
Organization: Cray Computer Corporation

In article <25453@sybase.sybase.com> thorick@sybase.com (Thorick Chow) writes:
>In article <1992Nov2.110731.1984@ms.uky.edu> taddiken@ms.uky.edu (scott taddiken) writes:
>>
>>I've heard about a game played in Wales, in which two people grab each other
>>by the shoulders and kick each other repeatedly in the shins.  With hard shoes
>>on.  The loser is the first to disengage.  It's not clear that this is a
>>martial art, but it certainly is the most excruciating combat-type game I've
>>ever heard of.
>>
>
>Check out the Yanamamo (sp ?) of Brazil who have chest beating contests,
>the first one to pass out loses.

Of course, this is also the tribe where young men are required to kill
someone before they're allowed to marry, isn't it? Nice folks...

Steve
From: khc2674@zeus.tamu.edu (Bruce as my Shepherd)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: re: Time for belts/knife techniques
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:20:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov9.125340.11941@relay.nswc.navy.mil>, snorthc@relay.nswc.navy.mil writes...

>Unarmed, against a knife:

A person I know told me this story.
A coworker of his had told him he was a Tae Kwon Do Instructor, to which this
guy responded "ahh, Korean ballet" The TKD BB did not take this well. He asked
the fellow to attack him with a knife so as to demonstrate his badassedness to 
this person whom I know. This person whom I know lunged turned the knife around
blade against the forearm and had it against the BB's throat.

The point of this post is whether anyone trains against a knife held in that 
manner.

Kuo Hau Chang  :)               Praying for Mantis                (:
Texas A&M      :)   7-star,8-step,Taiji,Tantui,Lu-Han,Flat Plate  (:
From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Badass Karate (-Do?)
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:28:50 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

'Toughness' has little to do with technique, size, etc. It comes from inside 
the head. This is why some of the least likely folk are the most indestructible!
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: drury@helix.nih.gov (Richard Drury)
Subject: Re: Kuk Sool Won General Info
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:45:25 GMT

In article jkm2@ra.msstate.edu (Joseph K Mcallister) writes:

[answers to my questions about Kuk Sool Won deleted]

>  Anything else??

No, but thanks for the information.  After asking all those 
questions, I checked some of my reference materials and found a 
fairly complete article on this art.  Some additional points 
include:

- Founded in 1966.

- Advanced students learn as many as 3,608 techniques.

- Derived from three Korean martial traditions: Sado Mu Sool, the
  tribal martial arts, said to have originated during the close of
  stone age in Korea, about 2000 B.C.; Buldo Mu Sool, the arts 
  practiced by Korean Buddhist monks; and Koon Joon Mu Sool, the 
  royal court arts taught to the soldier/scholars of Korea's 
  early kingdoms.

- Gold, green and lavender uniforms patterned after the 
  traditional dress of Korean generals.
--
Richard A. Drury
drury@helix.nih.gov
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: radner@cray.com (Lauren Radner)
Subject: Re: Time required to attain Black Belt
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:07:31 CST

In article <J51RTB2w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> gbaker@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Greg baker) writes:
>
>///////////////////// B.A.K.A. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
> ////////////gbaker@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
>--------------------------------------------------------
>_________________STATION z e b r a______________________

...I'm just curious. What does "B.A.K.A." stand for? In Japanese it
means "stupid" .....


Mind Wandering (Jet Lag Deprivation),
-Lauren
From: srmcinto@eos.ncsu.edu (SEAN R MCINTOSH)
Newsgroups: rec.misc
Subject: karate
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:49:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: ncsu.1992Nov10.184919.14342
Reply-To: srmcinto@eos.ncsu.edu (SEAN R MCINTOSH)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: srmcinto@c00554-1403br.eos.ncsu.edu




	Hi!  I am going to start taking some Karate classes in the near future 
and I would like some advice.  What do I need to do in order to prepare for
these classes.  I am mainly interested in the physical training area.
If anyone has a suggested workout please e-mail it to me. 
	A friend of mine suggested that I do pushups on my knuckles.  What do 
you think?  I would also like some information on how to get my fists into
shape?  I would also like an opinion on full-contact karate.  I am interested
in this, but I really do not know what to expect.  Any information will be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Sean


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From: srmcinto@eos.ncsu.edu (SEAN R MCINTOSH)
Newsgroups: rec.misc
Subject: Basic Training
Date: 11 Nov 92 00:13:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: ncsu.1992Nov11.001352.28289
Reply-To: srmcinto@eos.ncsu.edu (SEAN R MCINTOSH)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: srmcinto@c00568-1403br.eos.ncsu.edu




Hi!  I am thinking of joining the Army and I have a few questions. 
I would like opinions on what to expect in Basic training.  I would
also like some suggestions on how to get into shape before reporting
to Basic.  

A friend recommended that I begin doing pushups, situps, and plently
of ruck marches. While I do not doubt that this information is true I
do not know how many or how far.  How fast should the ruck march be,
with how much weight, and how far?  I would appreciate any workout
suggestions.

Thanks in advance,

Sean


PS:  Should the workout be done while wearing heavy combat boots?


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From: srmcinto@eos.ncsu.edu (SEAN R MCINTOSH)
Subject: ARMY BASIC TRAINING
Originator: srmcinto@c00554-1403br.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: srmcinto@eos.ncsu.edu (SEAN R MCINTOSH)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:43:55 GMT



Hi!  I am thinking of joining the Army and I have a few questions.  I would    like opinions on what to expect in Basic training.  I would also like so       suggestions on how to get into shape before reporting to Basic.  A friend      recommended that I begin doing pushups, situps, and plently of ruck marches. 
While I do not doubt that this information is true I do not know how many or 
how far.  How fast should the ruck march be, with how much weight, and how far?I would appreciate any workout suggestions.

Thanks in advance,

Sean


PS:  Should the workout be done while wearing heavy combat boots?


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From: srmcinto@eos.ncsu.edu (SEAN R MCINTOSH)
Subject: Wrestling
Originator: srmcinto@c00554-1403br.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: srmcinto@eos.ncsu.edu (SEAN R MCINTOSH)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:47:36 GMT




Hi!  I'm looking for some advice.  I'm thinking about joining a wrestling
club, but I'm about 10 pounds heavier than I need to be.  Could anybody give
me any suggestions in loosing this weight.

I have a friend that suggested wearing a "sweat" suit (PVC suit) while
working out or running.  What do you think of this?  Does it work?  How long
should I wear it?


Thanks in advance,

Sean

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Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: binnie@aclcb.purdue.edu (Al Binnie)
Subject: Re: Rabbits
Organization: Purdue University AIDS Center
Date: 5 Nov 92 08:42:40 CST
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

(Sky Warrior) writes

>Now I have heard that rabbits can carry a
>disease that can be transmitted to humans through the meat.  How does
>one detect this disease?  (Is there anything I should look out for?)

Tularemia.  It's a bacterial infection that you can pick up from
rabbits.  There's no need to determine whether they carry it or not,
but sometimes the lymph nodes will be very swollen.  Just treat all
rabbits as if they are infected (use rubber gloves to clean them and
cook the meat through).

>Also do you have any advice for catching them and cooking them?  

I think a .22 with a scope would be much more efficient if you really
want to make a dent in the population quickly.

>Are
>there species of rabbits that I shouldn't even bother considering
>eating?

Jack rabbits are mighty lean, quite gamey and tough.  Better buy a
crock-pot and be patient if you want to eat them.  Your signature
mentions a dog team- why not just cook 'em well and give them to the
dogs if they're jacks?


                       al binnie......
                                      Purdue University
                                      Department of Biochemistry
                                      Internet: binnie@aclcb.purdue.edu
                                      317-494-1658 (W)                  


Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: rigg@osnome.che.wisc.edu (Tim Rigg)
Subject: Re: Advice needed on used 4x4 pickups
Date: 10 Nov 92 07:25:44 CST
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

   From: miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant)

   Ford?
   Well Toyota has been the best seller for 15 years in a row. ...

I am not sure where you are getting your information but the Ford
Ranger is the best selling compact truck.  In fact 5 of the top 10 are
made by Ford (Escort, Taurus, F150 truck, Ranger, and something else)

tim


Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: stur@TIS.COM (Jeff Sturgess)
Subject: Re: Maryland Fish & Game Dept.
Organization: Trusted Information Systems, Inc.
Date: 9 Nov 92 07:56:44 CST
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu



> I've just moved from Vermont to Maryland, can anyone point me in the
> direction of the MD Fish & Game Dept. (if there is such a thing) 

John,

The governing organization in Maryland is the Department of Natural
Resources.  Here is the address and phone number for the Wildlife
Division:

	Wildlife Division
	Tawes State Office Building, E-1
	580 Taylor Avenue
	Annapolis, MD 21401

	(410) 974-3195
 
> I live near a "big" city.  I can't believe that people don't hunt
> here but, I haven't met any yet...  

You'll find quite a few hunters in the Western part of the state and 
a ton of waterfowlers on the Eastern Shore.  Feel free to let me know if
you need any additional information.

Jeff

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Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: jimc@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Jim Cox)
Subject: Re: Advice needed on used 4x4 pickups
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin Tx.
Date: 11 Nov 92 07:55:55 CST
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Nov9.075804.4714@doug.cae.wisc.edu> rigg@osnome.che.wisc.edu (Tim Rigg) writes:
>   From: Mark A Cavallaro <cavallar@cyber.net>
>   [Stuff deleted]
>
>   Well, I am now looking into trading my 92 civic for a used 4x4 pickup.
>   Can anyone offer their advice and/or experience as to a good candidate
>   (or bad) in the 85 to 87 years. Domestic or foreign, doesn't matter
>   (sales taxes go to local and state gov't :>)
>
>There really isn't much of a choice.  There are good trucks like Fords
>and there are "others".  If you want a truck that will perform, get a
>Ford.  If you like working on vehicles and don't mind staying on paved
>roads, buy something else.
>
>Oh ya, IMHO.

Well, if you only choice is between your Civic and a Ford, stick with the
Civic.   :-)

Signed, the owner of a 1972 GMC 1/2 4x4 with a brand new 300hp small block.
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