From: lpb@florida.swdc.stratus.com (Len Bucuvalas)
Newsgroups: alt.censorship,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: [soc.culture.indian]  DEADLINE TO STOP OBSCENE POSTINGS!
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:44:59 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA

In article <C0Au31.G41@cs.uiuc.edu> kadie@cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie) writes:
>[A repost - Carl]
>
>From: dpereira@umiami.ir.miami.edu
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
>Subject:  DEADLINE TO STOP OBSCENE POSTINGS!
>Message-ID: <1993Jan3.135844.14273@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
>Date: 3 Jan 93 13:58:44 EST
>
>				MEMO
>				----
>
>
>TO:	Deepak Bose, Deb Chatterjee, Mustafa Ibrahim, anonymous obscene posters,
>	others who post *really* obscene and offensive material
>
>FROM:	D. Pereira and others,
>	Indignant and frustrated readers
>
>REF:	DEADLINE TO STOP POSTING OFFENSIVE OR RACIST MATERIAL ON 
>	SOC.CULTURE.INDIAN
>
>
>After Tuesday, January 5, 1992 at midnight, if I see *any* postings or replies
>to postings that are offensive, racist or intolerable to me, I will forward 
Not that I have read them but.....mayhaps this is your own
singular perception? Obscenity and offensiveness can only be
propagated by the importance the reader attaches to the
material. If the reader attaches no vested interest to the
material...the poster goes away for lack of attention.

>copies to your respective system administrators, who will then decide what 
>action, if any, to take against you.  In effect, it will be your sys ads who 

Bah! You will have to conclusively prove that so-and-so
actually DID post the said ofensive piece. And judging by what
I have seen of Unix and all its back doors...this is not
possible currently. You are wasting your time.

>will then determine if the material is unsuitable for public medium, not me.
>He/she may then decide whether you should be denied write access to USENET or
>be further penalized. (Some of the postings seen recently may even be used as
>evidence for civil/criminal litigation.)

No likely...read above.....without conclusive evidence, which
cannot be had because there is no way to prove the packet was
originated by the name listed on the posted material...you
have no case.
 
>
>If any other sci readers out there decide to support this action, then please
>express your opinion.  A suggestion: extract this memo and post it again under
>your own name.  Do please take the effort to type the SUBJECT heading over,
>rather then doing a REPLY.  This way you will convey to the offenders that you
>feel as strongly about this.

I feel a better way is to simply apply no importance to the
posted. People such as these are starving for attention of any
kind...when they dont get it...they move on.

>
>A final note to the persons mentioned above - please take this very seriously.
>It is NOT a joke.

Believe me.....the person you speak off is laughing their ass
off.....there is no way to prove they actually did it. Yes you
can prove it came from their account...BUT you CAN'T prove the
person listed to that account originated the offensive
material...
>
>-- 
>Carl Kadie -- I do not represent any organization; this is just me.
> = kadie@cs.uiuc.edu =

In short....I dont blame you...this must have been severely
offensive BUT there really is nothing you can do about
it....to my knowledge.

Sincerely,
Len
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		-- Ralph Nader @ Harvard Law School, 1/15/92
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