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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:04:28 -0500
From:         Nhan Tran <tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      CAM: Thai general fears arms flow from Cambodia

01/24

THAI GENERAL FEARS ARMS FLOW FROM CAMBODIA

    BANGKOK, Jan 25, Reuter - The flow of cheap weapons from Cambodia into
Thailand could disrupt life in the kingdom's eastern provinces, said Thailand's
army chief.
    "Innocent people are...suffering from the influx of cheap weapons and
ammunition across the border into Thailand," General Vimol Wongwanich told The
Nation newspaper.
    "Unless we can halt this trade, domestic peace will certainly be affected,"
he said in an interview published on Monday.
    Vimol, commander-in-chief of the Royal Thai Army, said he had reinforced
Thailand's borders with Cambodia, where demobilisation of many fighters has led
to the trade in arms and increased banditry.
    "The army has been forced to send more soldiers to keep the law along the
border," he said. "Some of our men have been killed, either by stepping on
mines or in fighting with the armed gangs."
    He said Thailand could not impose peace on Cambodia, where the Khmer Rouge
have backed away from a U.N. peace plan saying their Vietnamese enemies are
still active in the country.
    "I think it's probable that the only Vietnamese in Cambodia are those who
have already retired (from the military) and work there," said the general, who
recently visited Hanoi.
    He also said he supported the Thai government policy of "constructive
engagement" with Burma's military rulers to bring about reform there.
    "No matter whether we oppose or agree with that country's political system,
we will not intervene," he said.
    The dispute over the Spratly Islands -- a string of potentially oil-rich
atolls in the South China Sea claimed by several Asian nations -- and
overlapping exclusive economic zones claimed by Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam and
Cambodia had the potential to destabilise the region, he added.
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:38:53 -0500
From:         Nhan Tran <tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      CAM: Thailand proposes solution to Cambodian conflict

01/15

 THAILAND PROPOSES NEW SOLUTION TO CAMBODIAN CONFLICT

BANGKOK, THAILAND (JAN. 15) UPI - Thailand's foreign minister met with the
head of the Khmer Rouge Friday to discuss new Thai proposals aimed at breaking
the deadlock in the U.N. peace process in Cambodia, officials said.
   Foreign Minister Prasong Soonsiri held a hastily arranged meeting with Khmer
Rouge leader Khieu Samphan Friday morning to convince the recalcitrant
guerrilla group to cooperate with U.N. peacekeeping efforts, the officials
said.
   Prasong said Thursday he has found a solution to break the deadlock he is
confident will be accepted by all sides, the Bangkok Post reported. The paper
said Prasong will travel to Beijing Sunday to discuss the plan with Cambodian
Head of State Prince Norodom Sihanouk, who is receiving medical treatment in
the Chinese capital.
   "My visit to the prince is unofficial, but I have contacted him and he will
meet me," Prasong said. "I will also see several Chinese leaders."
   He revealed no details of the proposed solution, but Foreign Ministry
sources told the Bangkok Post the plan included a proposal for the election of
a president of Cambodia's Supreme National Council, which groups leaders of the
country's four factions, prior to the U.N.- supervised elections scheduled for
April or May.
   The Phnom Penh regime, installed with the help of Vietnamese occupation
forces, the Maoist-inspired Khmer Rouge and two non-communist resistance
groups, signed a peace accord in Paris in October 1991.
   But the Khmer Rouge dropped out of the peace process in June, charging
Vietnamese troops have secretly remained in the country after Hanoi's official
withdrawal from Cambodia in 1989 and demanding more power be transferred from
the government to the SNC.
   "I believe I can solve the current complaint that the SNC has no real power
and that no one can get the Khmers to turn and face each other," Prasong said
late Thursday after returning from a visit to Laos.
   "The thing I am about to do will show that we have always been working for a
solution and this one will lead to quicker success."
   The U.N. Security Council last month imposed sanctions against the Khmer
Rouge to force it comply with the Paris peace accord.
   The Khmer Rouge was responsible for deaths of more than one million
Cambodians during a four-year reign of terror before being ousted by invading
Vietnamese troops in 1979.
   Thailand, along with China, then backed the Khmer Rouge in its guerrilla war
against the Vietnamese occupation forces.
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:03:22 -0500
From:         Nhan Tran <tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      CAM: Khmer Rouge still refuse to rejoin UN peace process

01/21

KHMER ROUGE LEADER REITERATES REFUSAL TO TAKE PART ...

BANGKOK, THAILAND (JAN. 21) UPI - The leader of the Khmer Rouge reiterated
Thursday his refusal to rejoin the U.N. peace process and participate in
forthcoming elections in the war-wracked country, one of the co-chairmen of the
Paris conference on Cambodia said.
   Indonesian Foreign Minister Ali Alatas met with Khmer Rouge leader Khieu
Samphan amid a flurry of diplomatic activity aimed at breaking the deadlock in
the Cambodian peace process.
   "I told him the interests of a comprehensive, just and therefore durable
solution ... the interests of the (Khmer Rouge) themselves and the wider
interests of Southeast Asian nations would be better served if they were inside
the process rather than outside," Alatas told a news conference.
   "I regret to inform you that Khieu Samphan ... remained of the view that ...
they would not as of now participate in the elections," Alatas said.
   Alatas and French Foreign Minister Roland Dumas are co- chairmen of the
Paris International Conference on Cambodia, which drafted the October 1991
peace agreement.
   The Phnom Penh regime, installed with the help of Vietnamese occupation
forces, the Maoist-inspired Khmer Rouge and two non- communist resistance
groups signed the accord, aimed at ending 13 years of conflict in Cambodia.
   But the Khmer Rouge dropped out of the peace process in June, charging
Vietnamese troops secretly have remained in the country after Hanoi's official
withdrawal from Cambodia in 1989,.and demanding more power be transferred from
the government to the four-faction Supreme National Council.
   It also has refused to participate in U.N.-supervised elections scheduled
for April or May. U.N. authorities set a Jan. 31 deadline for political parties
to register for the elections.
   Presidential elections also are scheduled, but no date has been set.
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Subject:      Re: MY: Mahathir set for clash with sultans

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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:08:18 EST
From:         Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Subject:      TH: Forestry dept. changes stance

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From: Kamol Hengkietisak <kamol@ipied.tu.ac.th>
Subject: Bangkok Post Jan 28: Forestry Dept to change stance


IN what appears to be a softening of its stance on popular
participation in the decision-making, the Forestry Department said
yesterday it must adapt to "new ideas" which seek to give rural
people rights and responsibilities over the management of natural
resources.

"Rural people have a voice which cannot be ignored any longer,"
said the Deputy Director General of the Forestry Department,
Bhannalert Ratchatakul.

Mr Bhannalert was delivering the opening speech at a workshop
entitled "Policy and Legislation in Community Forestry" attended
by foresters of more than 20 countries.

He cited the failure of the military-oriented khor jor kor (land
resettlement) programme.

The state of affairs where the framing of forest policy and
legislation is   exclusively in the hands of high government
officials cannot be allowed to continue much longer, he said.

"People no longer accept policies and programmes aimed at
improving their situation, and probably developed in good faith,
which do not take into account their needs and wishes," he said.

Dr Somsak Sukwong, director of the Regional Community Forestry
Training Centre, said the Forestry Department's new stance is
welcome even though it has come rather late.

He said: "The world has been moving towards decentralisation in
the management of natural resources. In the past, the Forestry
Department's focus has been on reafforestation without regard for
people's rights, and that's why it failed to preserve the forest.
It is just starting to learn its lesson."

He said he is not very optimistic that the changes will be
"full-scale."

"There must still be high-ranking officials who stick to the old
thinking, do not believe in the idea of the coexistence of man and
the forest, and lack confidence in the ability of villagers to
manage and preserve the forests themselves," he said.

He cited the failure of the forestry village programme.

"It might have been successful if the villagers had been allowed
to own the natural resources. But they were never allowed to. They
just serve as labourers and therefore do not much care about the
forests."

There are the problems of tree felling and log smuggling in
forestry villages.

"It might be better, after villagers are relocated to such
villages, if the Forestry Department promotes their well-being,"
he said.

Dr Somsak said Thailand should play a positive role in forestry
management in the region.

"Thailand is in a position to educate other developing nations in
the region such as Cambodia and Burma. We have a lot of experience
to offer. There are many lessons for the less-developed to learn
from Thailand," he said.
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:06:25 -0500
From:         Nhan Tran <tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      CAM: Head of Cambodia's ruling party accuses Khmer Rouge ...

01/25

HEAD OF CAMBOBIA'S RULING PARTY ACCUSES KHMER ...

PHNOM PENH, CAMBODIA (JAN. 25) UPI - The head of Cambodia's ruling party
Monday charged Khmer Rouge guerrillas are threatening the political
environment ahead of the U.N.-supervised elections.
   "The Khmer Rouge is the source of instability, gravely threatening the
neutral political environment in the transitional period, and the source of
terrorism, violence and tragedy to the Cambodian people," Cambodian People's
Party President Chea Sim said.
   "The government opposes all acts of sabotage and violence which are aimed at
delaying, prolonging or destroying the peace process," he said in a speech
opening a five-day session of the National Assembly, of which he is chairman.
   The Phnom Penh regime, installed with the help of Vietnamese occupation
forces, the Maoist-inspired Khmer Rouge and two non-communist resistance groups
signed a peace accord in Paris 15 months ago aimed at ending 13 years of
conflict in Cambodia.
   But the Khmer Rouge dropped out of the peace process in June, charging
Vietnamese troops secretly remained in the country after Hanoi's official
withdrawal from Cambodia in 1989 and demanding more power be transferred from
the Phnom Penh regime to the four-faction Supreme National Council.
   It has also refused to participate in the U.N.-supervised general elections,
scheduled for April or May. U.N. authorities have set a deadline of Jan. 31 for
political parties to register for the elections.
   Chea Sim charged that while the government is making efforts to maintain
stability in the country in the run-up to the elections, the Khmer Rouge and
other factions are causing "turbulence" and then blaming the government for it.
   "The international community must take serious and urgent measures to warn
and condemn factions which are not abiding by the peace accord and compel them
to honor the accord," Chea Sim said.
   The National Assembly will sit for five days to adopt the 1993 budget, to
distinguish between state properties and the party's and to decide on duty-free
zones in southwestern Kompong Som Province, a government official said.
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:34:11 EST
From:         Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Subject:      TH: Can you top this story?

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 23:07:15+0700
From: Kamol Hengkietisak <kamol@ipied.tu.ac.th>
Subject: Bangkok Post Jan 18: Could you top this story?


The following story is really ridiculous. I have 3 helmets, 2 of
which have seals of approval and cost only 200 baht each while my
best one has no such seal but it costs 800. I am using the best at
the moment because it is full-faced and offers better protection.
- kamol

MOTORCYCLISTS who bought crash helmets some time ago will have to
buy new ones or risk a 500 baht fine because their helmets will
not have the official seal of approval issued by the Industry
Ministry, Traffic Police said yesterday.

Traffic Police Deputy Commander Pol Maj Prajit Srichaiyan said the
seal is an assurance that crash helmets, to be worn by all
motorcyclists and passengers when the law comes into effect on
February 1, are up to standard and have been approved by the
Industry Ministry.

As law enforcement officers, traffic policemen will have to
observe the law and will fine motorcyclists not wearing helmets
with the ministry's official seal.

He said the deadline for enforcing the law had been postponed 45
days from December 15 and this should have been long enough for
everyone to buy a standard crash helmet.

Asked about motorcyclists who may have bought their helmets a long
time ago, including expensive imported ones when there was no seal
requirement, Pol Maj Prajit said:

"They will have to change their helmets. One can't use price as
the standard for safety. Life is the principle at stake. The
helmets will have to have been tested and approved by the Interior
Ministry."

However, he added that when the law comes into effect on February
1 there is expected to be some confusion and the police may be too
busy to check for the official seals on the helmets.

But over a certain period of time after that date Traffic Police
will check motorcyclists' helmets for the official seal.

The maximum fine for wearing a helmet without the official seal is
500 baht.
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:04:11 EST
From:         Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Subject:      TH: Attache told to cooperate

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From: Kamol Hengkietisak <kamol@ipied.tu.ac.th>
Subject: Bangkok Post Jan 28: Attache told to cooperate with Pakistan authority


THE Foreign Ministry has urged the Thai military attache in
Islamabad, Col Somsak Sakulthong, to co-operate with the
Government of Pakistan in its investigation of his alleged
involvement in smuggling.

Col Somsak was allegedly found with five antique Buddha statues as
he was about to leave Pakistan for England last week.

According to Foreign Ministry Spokesman Sakthip Krairiksh,
Pakistan's Ambassador to Thailand, Maj-Gen Riaz Mahmud, yesterday
made clear that Islamabad sought the military attache's
co-operation in order to establish how many Pakistanis were
involved.

According to the spokesman, the diplomat expressed Pakistan's wish
for the attache's co-operation during a meeting with Foreign
Minister Prasong Soonsiri.

The envoy reportedly pointed out that it had yet to be established
that Col Somsak was guilty. He was briefing the Foreign Minister
on the case following a report that the Army had recalled the
military attache for interrogation.

Mr Sakthip said he had not been informed of the report. But he
noted that Col Somsak still retained his diplomatic immunity and
therefore could refuse to co-operate with the Pakistani
authorities.

But the spokesman urged the officer to extend his co-operation in
the case. The foreign ministry would do its best to help, he
added.
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Subject:      Chinese New Year - Year Of The Cock

Hi, Just want to wish everyone who is celebrating Chinese New Year tomorrow a
Happy and Prosperous 1993! "KONG HEE FATT CHOY" :-)
                                                     Alex
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:24:00 EST
From:         "Carl A. Trocki" <CTROCKI@GUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: What use is SEASIA-L?

I would like to add my name to those who express gratitude to MSU for
supporting this list server and to Elliot Parker for managing it.  The
list provides a valuable source of news about the region so that those
of us interested in day-to-day events have a supplement to the slim
pickings in the local/national media.  It also offers a forum for the
discussion, (lively, but not always temperate) of important issues in
the region.  In addition, it is a ready and convenient means of
communication between those of us who are interested in Southeast
Asia.  I suppose it needs repeating every now and then, but this list,
like many others is open to all who wish to speak, to inform and to
respond.  If you sense a lack here, then fill it.  No one stops any
one from sending news or information.
Again, keep up the good work. And many thanks.
                        Carl Trocki
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 01:45:40 PST
From:         Coban Tun <tun@QUARK.SFSU.EDU>
Subject:      Appeal from Bangladesh buddhists

/* Written  3:01 pm  Jan 22, 1993 by bpf@igc.apc.org in igc:reg.seasia */
/* ---------- "Appeal from Bangladeshi Buddhists" ---------- */
AN APPEAL TO HELP AND REHABILITATE THE BUDDHISTS
AFFECTED BY COMMUNAL DISTURBANCES.


As a consequence of destructions of historic Babri Mosque in
Ayodhya, India, by the Hindu fundamentalists, communal
disturbances flared up all over this subcontinent, resulting in
colossal loss of human lives and properties.

On the 11th and 12th December 1992, a group of miscreants
numbering 400/500 attacked the innocent Buddhist Monks and
villagers at Matain under Senbagh Police Station in Noakhali
District. They caused heavy damage to the only Buddhist temple,
looted away the properties and broke into pieces statues of Lord
Buddha. The miscreants injured the villagers, looted away the
house-hold properties including cash, ornaments, paddy,
furniture, cattle, and set on fire the dwelling houses, kitchen,
and cowsheds of the villagers, and rendered them completely
shelterless without having any food and clothings in this winter
season. About 200 people of 30 houses have been passing their
days in great miseries and the condition of the Children are more
serious for want of proper food and medicine.

Just after the occurrence, the "Young Men's Buddhist Association"
"(YMBA), Comilla, Bangladesh with their limited resources rushed
to the affected village and tried to succor the distress of the
people by distributing food, clothes, medicine, cash, etc.

The extent of damaged will be about Tk. 50,000,000 (fifty lac).
So far, no substantial help has been received by them from the
government or other donor agencies.

Therefore, this appeal is made to all for immediate help to the
affected villagers.

May all beings be happy,
Ven. Shilabhadra Bhikku
Secretary General

For more information- contact:
 YMBA
Baraigaon Kanaka Chaitya Vihar
P.O. Bhora Jagatpur
Laksam, Comilla
Bangladesh

Pubali Bank Ltd.
Daulatgonj Branch
A/C. No. 5698
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Subject:      BD Election Results

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FROM:    Ira Fuchs, President
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         Geraldine MacDonald, Chairperson
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DATE:    January 22, 1992

RE:      THE ELECTION RESULTS ARE IN !!!!!

     CREN is pleased to announce the election results for the CREN
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We are looking forward to working with these individuals, and
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     Director of Computing & Communications
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     Director, Academic Computing Facility
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WILLIAM YUNDT

     Director, Networking & Communication Systems
     Stanford University
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DOUGLAS BIGELOW

     Director of Academic Computing
     Wesleyan University
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Betsy, just a few clarifications:

(a) are the prices per annum or per month?
(b) Can you give a one line definiton of the ECO disk?

If we wanted to buy (and change back itneranlally) the equivalent of
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which of these would we actually buy?  The last two?
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