From: tamada@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael K. Tamada)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Some Warriors jokes
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:55:08 GMT
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.

In article <1k3t24INN307@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> myro@srfrogs.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 16893@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU, gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:
>->>[...] earthquakes and Warriors first round playoff losses have [...]
>->>Both are relatively frequent Bay Area occurrences 
>->
>->In their recent incarnation, the Warriors reached the playoff four
>->times:  in 1987, 89, 91 and 92.  The first three times they *won*
>->in the first round, upsetting a higher ranked opponent (Utah, Utah,
>->San Anton.)  Last year was the first time they lost in the first round
>->of the playoffs since 1972.
>->
>->I wish that earthquakes were that rare!
>
>Anyway.....you seem to be looking at the last four trips to the playoffs that the warriors
>made. Did you consider looking any further? I would be interested to see how the 
>warriors have done in all first round playoff series. Why not look at the last 4 days 
>for bay area earthquakes...makes about as much sence.....
>
>So, please let us all know what the Warriors first round playoff record is, but don't limit 
>us to stats that help your argument.  Who knows maybe the whole picture will still 
>support your argument?????

     Well what do you want Gidi to do, look up every single damned playoff
series the Warriors have ever been in?  What do the accomplishments of
Joe Fulks, Nate Thurmond, and Wilt Chamberlain have to do with the current,
Don Nelson led, Warriors?
     If it makes you happy, from 1949-1952, the Philadelphia Warriors 
lost in the first round in the playoffs four straight years.
    Are we now going to say: "Yep, Gidi was wrong, those Warriors DO have 
a history of losing in the first round."  I think not.  By mixing
in ancient history with relevant history, you can make all sorts of
claims:  "the Dallas Mavericks are one of the best run, most promising
teams in the NBA" -- this was true from 1981  to 1988.  "The Kings
never finish below .500" -- this was true, when they were the Rochester
Royals, from 1948-1954.  "The Warriors often lose in the first round"
-- this was true from 1949-52, but so what?  If you're going to conclude
from this exercise that the Warriors do lose in the first round, then 
are you also going to conclude that the Kings never have a losing 
season and the Mavs are one of the best franchises in the NBA?
     If one wants to look at the total, overall history of a franchise,
then sure, stuff from 1947 is relevant.  Which team has won the most
championships, for example, is a question where we'd want to look
at all years.  But the original posting, and Gidi's response, was
refering to the CURRENT INCARNATION (or in Gidi's words, "recent
incarnation") of the Warriors -- you know, Don Nelson, Tim Hardaway,
Chris Mullin, etc.  NOT Joe Fulks or Wilt.
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