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From: spady@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robyn Spady)
Subject: Re: Problems with DieHard 2
Organization: Boeing
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:35:55 GMT

Pentti Lajunen writes:
>
>There are some other problems with Die Hard 2 that bothered me.  For instance,
>>the airplane that does crash (British?) explodes into a huge flaming fireball
>>despite the fact that just before the crash the pilot says that they've nearly
>>run out of all there fuel.
>
>The tanks of the plane were FULL of easily exploding fumes.
>The plane will propably explode more easily that way than with full tanks.

I would like to add . . . my parents crashed their plane about 16 years ago.
When the FAA investigated, their report indicated that the plane did not go
up in flames because they were flying with full tanks . . . The hazard came
after the crash, when the was fuel all over the place and the fumes were
everywhere.
From: gt9398b@prism.gatech.EDU (Christopher R. Boggs)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: 9 1/2 Weeks
Date: 20 Dec 92 20:34:16 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

>>In article <1992Dec17.014613.14202@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mdriscol@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mollie M Driscol) writes:
>>
>>First, let me say that it is when MEN enjoy sex that it
>>is called pleasure.  Women's pleasure is usually not considered
>>important in heterosexual intercourse.
>>

   Geez......You sound like one of those women's rights activists that look 
too bad to worry about it anyways. Ugh....

   I don't know where you got your attitudes from. But speaking for myself, If
I care for someone, then giving them pleasure gives me pleasure. Its not a one
sided thing at all.

   Take your stereotypes and paranoia and go elsewhere.

-Chris

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From: lawrence@mail.isc-br.com (Lawrence Kelley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Black Holes of Cinema
Date: 18 Dec 92 15:27:30 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo

In article <1992Dec17.214043.25217@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes) writes:
> 
> This may be a controversial or flame-baiting topic, but it relates to the 
> "overrated" thread.  Black holes are cinema are people with no talent who keep 
> making movies!

> Patrick Swayze Major major black hole!!!!

You obviously didn't see him in "Ghosts"

Lawrence


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but my faculties are decaying now and soon I shall be so I cannot remember any 
but the things that never happened.  It is sad to go to pieces like this, but 
we all have to do it.  ---  Mark Twain
____________________________________________________________________________
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From: ftw33616@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (.)
Subject: Re: DEAD POET'S SOCIETY 2
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:53:42 GMT

2715gibsonr@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:

>IF YOU HAVE EVER SEEN DEAD POETS, YOU KNOW HOW GREAT THE MOVIE WAS.  ANYWAYS, ABO, 
>A FEW YEARS AGO, ROBIN WILLIAMS STATED THAT HE PLANNED TO MAKE DEAD POETS 2.
>DOES ANYBODY KNOW IF HE STILL PLANS TO CARRY THROUGH WITH HIS STATEMENT.  AS
>WELL AS, DOES ANYONE KNOW IF HE IS GOING TO MAKE GOOD MORNING VIETNAM 2?

Tell me this is a joke.  please?
_neither_ should have a sequel.  My opinion.  (no humbleness about this
one, tho)
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From: redrum@carson.u.washington.edu (Joe Stremick)
Subject: Toys Trailer Music?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 09:53:40 GMT

	Does anyone know what music is featured in the second
_Toys_ trailer (the one with shots from the film, not the "biggest
sound stage in the world/wheat field one)_?  Is it from another
film, or is it on the soundtrack to _Toys_?
	I really like that music.

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From: jcm2s@Virginia.EDU ("Joshua Clay Malino")
Subject: Re: movie top 10 by sight
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:28:00 GMT

RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK was the best movie I have ever seen.
For about 5 years after I saw it, I wanted to be an
archaeologist.  Good call.  
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From: sdt8s@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson)
Subject: Re: let's start a personals column!
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:56:47 GMT

cew2w@Virginia.EDU  writes:
> bme2e@Virginia.EDU  writes:
> > hello everyone! since this is my first time (oohhhhh!) using
> > pcnews, i thought it might be a good idea to start some
> > discussion. being a single male, perhaps therewould be some
> > people out there who might want to start a personals column,
> > since dating sucks around. and to be multicultural, let's
> > include everyone! anyway, write if you are interested
> > 
> > format --  subject: WANTED ....
> > 
>  	What a generic idea, IMHO.
> 
> 	-- Chris Wrike

Guys, unless this is a local distribution, let's stop this
right now.

Even if it *is* a local distribution, let's stop it right now.

And if it isn't, apologies to everyone else...

Steve
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From: hist1261@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: John Ford's Cavalry Trilogy
Date: 15 Dec 92 10:47:14 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <7a=303Nsc3IT00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>, jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston) writes:
> 
> Every time the move _Fort Apache_ plays on TV, the TV Guide blurb says that
> this is the first of John Fords cavalry trilogy.  I finally watched the
> whole thing a few months ago and enjoyed it, so now I'd like to see the
> other two parts of the trilogy.  But I can't remember ever reading a
> blurb for a movie that says it's the second or third part.  I was thinking
> that _She Wore a Yellow Ribbon_ was one of them, and watching part of it
> this weekend on TNT the two sure seem similar (the endings are almost 
> exactly the same), but on the other hand John Wayne plays a different
> character in each movie.
> 
> So can any kind soul out there help me out with this?  Just what are the
> other two movies in the trilogy?
> 
> --James Preston
> 

The three films are Fort Apache (1948), She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (1949), and
Rio Grande (1950).  They are only loosely a "trilogy", their similarity resting
more in their subject matter and thematics than it does in an on-going
narrative.  The John Wayne character's in the first and the last films share a
common name (Kirby Yorke I think, Wayne even reused the "Kirby" part for his
Green Berets character), but their is little in Grande to suggest that it is
a direct sequel to Apache.  The character that recurrs most clearly though is
Victor McLaglen's - his sergeant figure appears to change little from film to
film (or from Ford's earlier Wee Willie Winkie either), but perhaps that is to
do more with the limitations with McLaglen as an actor than anything else.

Another similar trilogy-that-isn't enigma is Hawks' "Rio Bravo trilogy", so 
called not because El Dorado and Rio Lobo continue the same story but because
they are to an extent remakes of Rio Bravo, with John Wayne appearing in all
three, much as he did for Ford.

Richard.
From: dgp@atlas.wustl.edu (Don Porter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What is Molly Ringwald doing
Keywords: molly ringwald
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:28:50 GMT
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO

<1992Dec15.074645.2390@news.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE> (Bakayaroo Banzai) writes:
> I think she was last seen in "Betsy's Wedding" with Alan Alda.

When did she do "Women & Men: Stories of Seduction" for HBO?  Wasn't
it since BW?

-- 
|   Don Porter | dgp@saturn.wustl.edu | Washington University in St Louis   |
|  "The effect of liberty to individuals is, that they may do what they     |
|   please; we ought to see what it will please them to do, before we       |
|___risk congratulations." -- Edmund Burke._________________________________|
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From: jflood@iat.holonet.net (Jim Flood)
Subject: Where is this russian movie?
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:44:47 GMT

Four years ago I saw a Russian movie in Paris (subtitled in French)
which was called if I remember "Requiem Pour une Massacre" (direct
translation: Requiem  for a massacre???). It was the story of a young
Russian boy set during the german army's scorched-earth retreat in Russia
during WWII, if I understood the subtitles! I remember it was a very
powerful story and I have on occasion searched the Russian movie section
of video rental outlets ever since hoping to see it again. Has anybody
ever heard of this movie (in the U.S.)?

While you are here, I also saw a German movie in Paris (four years ago)
which was called something like "Sabine Kleist, Seiben Jahre", which was
a very interesting movie about a little seven year old girl Sabine Kleist.
The story of the movie is: Sabine runs away from the orphanage for a day.
Actually, it's very entertaining, and I would like to see it again with
english subtitles if possible. Has anyone ever seen this movie in the U.S.?

Jim Flood
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From: churchwell@vms.ocom.okstate.edu (Kimberly B. Churchwell)
Subject: Re: Daniel Day Lewis, Anyone?
Organization: OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:16:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.224507.398@Virginia.EDU>, cew2w@Virginia.EDU
("Chris Wrike") writes:
> ARL00SJB@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU writes:
>> Just wondering if there's anyone else who was *very* entranced with DDL
>> in _Last of the Mohicans_, as my best friend and I were when we saw it?
> 
> 	I was not at all pleased by Day-Lewis' performance.  He
> delivered his lines with the tone and idiocy of a California
> surfer.  "I sure as hell ain't in your damn militia"?  Please.

A lot of the dialogue was stilted, yeah, but I thought Day-Lewis did a
credible job with what he was given.  And I think that Ms. Stowe
deserves a bonus for delivering, with a straight face, what I
thought was the worst line in the movie:  "On the contrary, it is more
stirring to my blood than any imagining...", or somesuch idiocy. 
-- 
Kimberly B. Churchwell, Prog./Analyst, Okla. State U.  | TANSTAAFL, but
Osteopathic College--churchwell@vms.ocom.okstate.edu   | even so, I never
BIX--kchurchwell  AOL--KChurchwel  CIS--72170,1552     | quit hoping.
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From: anton@cbnewse.cb.att.com (anton.j.panagos)
Subject: THREE-MINUTE REVIEW: BRAM STOKER'S DraRACULA
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:34:36 GMT
Keywords: blah blah


			THREE-MINUTE REVIEW OF:
			BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA

 "Dracula" is directed by Francis Ford Coppola, and he does a spectacular job
of setting a mood in this dark and creepy period piece. The cinematography
and special effects(most of them non-computerized) are excellent. There's one
drawback: the acting is not up to par. One of the good acting performances
is by the main character, Count Dracul(a), played by versatile Gary Oldman.
Acting through all that makeup makes it a tough job as it is. But Winona Ryder,
and Keanu Reeves mail in their performances. Winona, as Mina, has a bad English
accent (which is also misunderstood) as does Keanu as her fiancee (name escapes
me). Keanu's acting is the most wooden of the bunch. Anthony Hopkins as Dr.
Van Helsing overacts and almost spoiled "Dracula" for me.
  A pleasant surprise is the actress who plays Mina's playful sister, Lucy,
Sadie Frost. She's fresh, funny, dramatic.
  But, again, the major player of the film is the scenery, the effects, the
story, the mood. Bela Lugosi's Dracula it's not. But an enjoyable film to
watch. 

I'd give this film *** (3) stars out of four 
"Bram's Stokers Dracula" is rated for violence and nudity


Anton J. Panagos
cbnewse!anton
AT&T Bell Labs
Naperville, Il.

"I don't drink......wine."  - Gary Oldman in "Bram Stoker's Dracula"
                              and Bela Lugosi in "Dracula"
From: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Laurie Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: "Favorite" versus "Best" Movies (was Re: Top Five Movies of All Time)
Date: 15 Dec 1992 19:00:59 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Reply-To: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: ansible.pubs.stratus.com

Jim Mann writes
>In article <4421@cvbnetPrime.COM> csroc@dime.prime.com (Charles  
>Sroczynski x4014 5-2) writes:
> Have some confidence
>> in yourself and your feelings; have courage;
>> stand up for what you believe in;  seize
>> the moment; do something extraordinary; don't
>> be so easily pushed around by others.  
>I'm so glad that you think you know me well enough that, based
>on a very short post, you think I can easily be pushed around or
>that I'm afraid to express an opinion.  (Boy, the folks around here
>would get a nice chuckle if they read THAT one.)  

<Gales of hysterical laughter from THIS corner, Jim!!>
<Hey, Evelyn, need a good laugh?>

>How about this:
>are YOU afraid to admit that one of the movies that are your
>personal favorites is NOT one of the best of all time?  Are you
>afraid to admit that you really enjoy watching something that you
>know is not all that great? 

I love Thelma and Louise.  It would be on my "favorite" list, but
the script's a little thin to be on my "best quality" movie list.
I really respect Sophie's Choice, and it may be one of the
"best quality" movies ever, but watching the movie is such
a gut-wrenching experience that I doubt I will ever sit through
it again.

Not all movies need to be "brain surgery."  Movies can be lightweight
and watchable, even if they aren't "the best."

*  NeXT: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com * GEnie:  Laurie.Mann  *
*Bush, Quayle, Perot---We Said NO! * We Voted for CHANGE in '92!*
***** "Hollywood still doesn't get it." Dan Quayle, 9/21/92 *****
* "No Dan, YOU still don't get it."  American Voters, Fall 1992 *
***********    Gee, do you think he gets it now????   ***********
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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Linda Hamilton
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:54:45 GMT

In article <STEINARB.92Dec14105438@bergfuru.idt.unit.no> steinarb@idt.unit.no (Steinar Bang) writes:
>>>>>> In article <lc49417@pro-amber.cts.com>, rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randy Sopicki) writes:
>
>> Has anyone got any idea what project Linda Hamilton might be
>> considering next?
>
>Well I heard she was expecting a baby (with Jim Cameron). Dunno about
>any film-projects though.
>
>I would like to think that the MTV movie award for most attractive
>female should buy *some* clout with Hollywood producers...:-)
>

It definitely carries clout with many people.  And it is Jim Cameron's
baby.  Jim Cameron's.

Hope this helps.

GM(a-t-t-s)S

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From: kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim)
Subject: Re: Amy Irving - actress or singer?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:07:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.191641.4072@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com>, mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary) writes:
> In article <1992Dec10.070209.16573@news.Hawaii.Edu> teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima) writes:
>>Jessica Rabbit was voiced by KATHLEEN TURNER from War of the Roses
>>(with Michael Douglas), NOT Amy Irving.
>
> But Amy Irving *did* do the singing, not Kathleen Turner.  I don't
> know of any recordings she has out.  The only other movie I can think of
> off hand is _Crossing Delancy_.

It's too bad Barbra Streisand was too greedy to give up any songs in 
_Yentl_.
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most Underrated Actor/Actress
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:07:52 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Dec16.110042.306@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, 
gjh2j@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Im a Joker Im a Smoker Im a Midnight Toker)

> I am intersted in seeing who people think are the most underrated actor and
> actress currently working today...

> Actress- Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio
> Actor- Gene Hackman

Yes, they have both done some excellent work, but I have to *majorly* part
ways with your on their joint film _Class Action_.  This one bored me stiff.

Larry Fishburn was good, but I thought Mary and Gene (we're very close)  :^)
were just sleepwalking through a rejected script from a L.A.Law rip-off
TV movie...

And they both have been in some horrible dogs too.  Mary in _The January Man_
(One of the most colossal wastes of talent I've ever seen) and Gene teaming
up with Dan Ackroyd for one of those "Zany-cop-buddy-pictues"...

I'd say the most under recognised actor and actress are:

Julian Sands
and Judy Davis.

Greg Bole                            "Don't shrug you moron, I'm blind!
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu          Save the body languare for the bimbae."
                                        Al Pacino in _Scent of a Woman_
From: drm@esl.com (Don McGregor)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Oliver Stone's  THE BIBLE
Date: 16 Dec 92 01:11:06 GMT
Reply-To: drm@esl.com

In article <BzA1nD.EBD@world.std.com> rjk@world.std.com (robert j kolker)  
writes:
> Would anyone like to speculate what the outcome would be if Oliver Stone
> did THE BIBLE?.  Given his penchant for re-writting *real* history, how
> would he rewrite biblical history?

Moses has mafia and CIA connections; the whole exodous is a CIA covert op  
against the promised land.

The second serpant theory. Satan was the patsy.

--
Don McGregor | Double your pleasure, double your fun.  Xerox
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From: kaminl@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Matt Garretson)
Subject: THE THIRD MAN soundtrack on CD??
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:55:51 GMT

Even if it's not the actual soundtrack, I'd like to get a disc that has
some of that great zither music. Is there such a beast?

Thanks in advance,
Matt
-- 
Matt Garretson                    :-)                 temporarily kaminl@rpi.edu
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From: ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper)
Subject: Re: Review: A Few Good Men.
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:23:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.105320.4659@spcvxb.spc.edu> 2cairo_r@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
> thing in the military and in one's life. I really do not want to get started  
> on how great this film really is, but I cannot stay quiet. This is the best 
> film to be released this year, and not only this year, but definitly in this  
> decade, to date. This film will take all the awards this year at the Oscar 
> Ceremony, BEST ACTOR, BEST ACTRESS, BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR( Cruise, Moore, & 
> Nicholson ) BEST SCREENPLAY, BEST DIRECTOR, AND BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY, just to 
> name a few. But if there is anything that can be said about this film it is 
> that it is by far one of the greatest movies ever made, and is certainly going 
> to be remembered as a classic, years from now. This is what Hollywood is made 
> of, and A Few Good Men , will definitly be remembered as one of the greatest 
> movies ever made. Cheers to Director Rob Riener for making  A Few Good Men, it 
> will always be cherished and enjoyed for generations to come.

I have to disagree *strongly*.  A FEW GOOD MEN is a reasonable film,
with a script that at times shows flashes of cleverness, but it is not
one of the best films of the year, let alone of the decade.  GLENGARRY
GLEN ROSS, THE CRYING GAME, and A MIDNIGHT CLEAR had better
screenplays; FAR AND AWAY, UNFORGIVEN, and A MIDNIGHT CLEAR had better
cinematography; HOWARD'S END, THE CRYING GAME, and ENCHANTED APRIL had
better performances by actresses; HOWARD'S END and PRELUDE TO A KISS
had better performances by supporting actors; GLENGARRY GLEN ROSS and
OF MICE AND MEN had better performances by actors; and THE CRYING GAME
and GLENGARRY GLEN ROSS were better directed.  (I doubt Nicholson will
even get nominated--he was so over the top--especially if he gets a
nomination for HOFFA, which seems more likely.)  And all of the films I
mentioned were better than A FEW GOOD MEN, along with HIGHWAY 61 and
HEAR MY SONG.  And we haven't even seen the major Christmas releases.

Of what's playing in the theatres, A FEW GOOD MEN is not a bad choice,
but not a timeless classic by any means.

Evelyn C. Leeper  |  +1 908 957 2070  |  att!mtgzy!ecl or  ecl@mtgzy.att.com
--
"God does not play dice with the universe."  --Albert Einstein
"Albert, stop telling God what to do."  --Niels Bohr
From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Edward Scissorhands: a few questions *SPOILER ALERT*
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 15:49:27 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>
>I watched this movie for the first time this past weekend
>when it was broadcast on one of the premium channels.  
>Unfortunately, I missed about the first 20 minutes.  Could
>someone please tell me: what happened to him that he
>ended up in such a condition (having scissors for hands);
>is that black thing under his clothes another set of clothes,
>or his body; is the Vincent Price character good or evil?
>Thanks for the info!
>
>Jackie Gratrix

Eddie was a "Frankenstein's monster" boy created by the V.Price
"mad doctor" character. He installed scissors as hands because
he hadn't finished the hands yet. He was presenting the hands
to Eddie as a surprise present when he collapsed in front of him
and died, thus the hands never got installed and poor Eddie got
stuck with the shears. (So watch the film from the beginning next time!)

The "black thing" is a full leather'n'buckles body suit which 
Eddie never removes (god knows what he smelled like). We are not
told what's under the suit, if not an otherwise normal body.

The Vincent Price character I would define as a "good" mad doctor.
Apparently he was childless and wanted to build himself a son. 

Harv