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From: alan@sierra.unr.edu (Alan McKay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Request for comments; selections from Cadence
Keywords: SPLASCH
Date: 31 Dec 92 19:37:28 GMT
Reply-To: alan@wrc.unr.edu (Alan McKay)
Organization: Desert Research Institute, University of Nevada

In article <BznIwE.CKA@ccu.umanitoba.ca> mcgonig@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca (Gordon McGonigal) writes:
>hellers@cs.wisc.edu (Joe Hellerstein) writes:
>>Paolo Fresu:  a whole bunch of stuff on Splasch.  Any recommendations?

[some enlightening comments, from Gordon, regarding Fresu deleted]


It's nice to hear about some of the Splasch stuff. I feel
overwhelmed everytime I see their listing in Cadence....where do you start?
(To their credit, Cadence will occasionally review ~several~ Splasch
releases in one column). Anybody else have anything to add regarding this
large "stable" of artists?


......al
w.a. mckay
desert research institute
reno, nevada
From: jerry@hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Classic Pop and Jazz, 1
Date: 24 Dec 92 20:35:31 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

For those who care, ASV has issued a compilation of Bob Crosby tracks from 
1936-1940 (when else?) as part of their Living Era series:

ASV CD AJA 5097: "Stomp Off, Let's Go!" by The Bob Crosby Orchestra and the
Bob Cats

Stomp off, let's go/Muskrat ramble/Panama/Stumbling/Dixieland shuffle/
March of the Bob cats/Gypsy love song/Savoy blues/Ooh! Looka there ain't
she pretty?/Grand terrace rhythm/Swing Mister Charlie/Wolverine blues/
Call me a taxi/Milk cow blues/Diga diga doo/Spain/Smoky Mary/I'm free/
'Till we meet again/Gin mill blues/Yancey special/The big noise from
Winnetka/Dogtown blues/South Rampart Street parade
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From: jerry@hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Classic pop and jazz, 2
Date: 1 Jan 93 22:36:16 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University


        (1) The European Classics labels has begun releasing disks by 
        Fats Waller and by Ethel Waters.  For those unfamiliar with 
        the label, they release the complete chronological recordings 
        of class jazz performers.  They release them one CD at a time, 
        so it may take a few years to complete an artists catalogue 
        (Fletcher Henderson's 13 disks took more than two years to 
        appear.) 

        (2)  ASV records has just released a CD collection of Andrews 
        Sisters recordings from 1937-1940.  This is one of the few 
        cases where there is little overlap between ASV and Pro 
        Arte when both labels release collections of the same artist. 


        Pro Arte CDD 506
        "Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy"
        The Andrews Sisters

        Bei mir bist du schon/Wake up and live/Why talk about love?/ 
        Just a simple melody/Joseph!  Joseph!/One-two-three O'Leary/ 
        Ti-pi-tin/Pross-tchai (Goodbye-goodbye)/Says my heart/Well, 
        all right/Hold tight (Sea food)/Beer barrel polka/South 
        American way/Sha-sha/Oh, Johnny!  Oh, Johnny!  Oh!/ 
        Ciribirin/Yodelin' jive/Lullaby to a little jitterbug/Sonny 
        boy/Boogie woogie bugle boy/I'll be with you in apple blossom 
        time/Bounce me brother with a solid four/ 

        ASV CD AJA 5096
        "The Andrews Sisters"
        The Andrews Sisters

        Beat me daddy eight to the bar/The cock-eyed mayor of 
        Kaunakakai/Beer barrel polka/Bei mir bist du schon/ 
        Pennsylvania 6-5000/Rhumboogie/I love you too much/The 
        Ferryboat Serenade/Well all right/Nice work if you can get 
        it/Ciribirin/One two three O'Leary/Why talk about love?/ You 
        don't know how much you can suffer/From the land of the sky 
        blue water/Pagan love song/Hold tight/Long time no see/ Ooooo-
        oh boom/Shortnin' bread/Let's have another one/I want my mama 
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From: wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery)
Subject: Re: CFD: Enough Interest Out There To Form a 1920's-30's Jazz/Dance/Big Band Newsgroup?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 03:27:54 GMT

barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) writes:
> noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
>>alt.music.early-jazz
>>alt.music.1920-40
>>alt.music.20's-30's  (kind of hard to type out)
>>alt.jazz.early
>>alt.jazz.1920-40
>
>	forget the years.  What's wrong with just 'alt.music.jazz'?

Jazz is already covered in bluenote (jazz and blues), and I don't see any
reason to split off early jazz--traffic does not warrant it. There certainly
is discussion of Duke, Basie, Louis, etc. from time to time--if you want
to tlak about it, just start a thread.

If the intent is a pop music of that era, then see if there is enough
interest; jazz related articles can always be cross posted. But please
don't include jazz in the name, it would only add to the confusion.

Bill Hery
AT&T Bell Labs
201-386-2362
hery@att.COM
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From: marty@srl.mew.mei.co.jp (Marty Chumbes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote,rec.music.makers,rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Jazz Band Music Scores
Date: 24 Dec 92 04:48:13 GMT
Organization: Matsushita Electric Works Ltd., Osaka, Japan

Hello,

	I've been in Japan for about a little over two month and during that time
I visited alot of big music stores which sells alot of CDs, musical instruments like
electric guitars, keyboards, pianos, etc. and music scores.  So far, I've been 
interested in getting band scores of Al Di Meola, Michel Camilo, David Brubeck, 
Chick Corea Electrik Band works, but I can't seem to find them anywhere in Japan.  They 
do have a large selection of solo scores as well as band scores, but they're basically American and Japanese pop, rock and heavy metal score book.  Their selection of jazz is extremely limited and I'm not sure where to start looking for it.  I know that there are
some score books on some of Chick Corea Electrik Band releases that I saw in the States, 
but unfortunately I didn't get it and I'm wondering how one can get such jazz band scores that are not usually found in music stores in both the US and/or Japan.  I'm planning
to get a small jazz/jazz fusion band together and I'm really interested mostly in
jazz band scores more than solo music scores, plus I would really like to play some
of Brubeck and Camilo's stuff.  I've heard that usually, for those hard to find scores,
one has to order it directly from the publishing company.  Is that true?  Any 
suggestions and help would be gladly appreciated and either e-mail or post it would be
fine.

	For those of you in rec.music.bluenote, I apologize if this is not the 
appropiate group to ask this kind of thing, but I'm cross-posting it to rec.music.makers
and rec.music.makers.synth.  Sorry for wasting any bandwidth.

							Many thanks,

							Marty
From: bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: clarinetist Perry Robinson
Date: 22 Dec 92 02:22:59 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Just was in a record store looking at those ZYX reissues of ESP dates -
fairly classy that they put in the musicians' discographies!  Then I
wandered over to the used LP section where I found a related true oddity:
"The Traveller," by Perry Robinson, a clarinetist who worked with
Archie Shepp and Henry Grimes, among others(?) in the early 60s.
The album's from 1977, on Chiaroscuro records, with piano, bass, and
drummer Philip Wilson (R.I.P.) the only name I recognized.  It kicks:
Robinson's playing is full of emotion, both sweet, and honking.  He
covers Willem Breuker's "Ham and Eggs Tango" (where does Breuker do this?).
And he looks *real* hippie on the cover.  Check out more Robinson (if
you can find it - tho' I believe a ZYX mentioned something he did
recently.)

-Ben

P.S.  And Perry Robinson it turns out, is the son of Earl Robinson,
folkie and writer of "I Dreamed I Saw Joe Hill Last Night."  Wow.
From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: drugs, ethics, health
Date: 31 Dec 92 20:02:13 GMT
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: kariba.bbn.com


   In any case, if I were forced to choose one or the
   other, and I were concerned with my life expectancy, I would rather be
   addicted to tobacco than to crack or heroin.

Depends on whether you're speaking pragmatically, physiologically or
morally.  Pragmatically, in a world in which heroin is an expensive
product typically bought from armed gangsters, quite possibly cut with
some foreign substance, and administered with an unclean needle, your
life expectancy as a user is indeed likely to be short.  But these
factors are all attributable to the legal status of heroin.  From a
purely physiological point of view, cigarettes and alcohol are much
more destructive than any of the popular illegal drugs. I think it's
pretty clear that drug use is generally considered to be morally
wrong, while smoking and casual drinking are not.

I find it interesting to note that Marcel felt it worth pointing out
that one figure on the cover of This Is Our Music was on the nod (a
morally evil practice, by the usual standards) but not worth
mentioning that three of the four were holding cigarettes (a morally
neutral practice, by the same standards)!
From: bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Request for comments; selections from Cadence
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:51:32 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

hellers@cs.wisc.edu (Joe Hellerstein) writes:
>David Murray 4tet "Live at Ocean Club" Col.1&2 w/ L. Bowie (!!) India
>Navigation 1032

Good record, tunes you've heard often but in the quartet setting 
there is a lot of space to unwind ... I found the CD in Tower and
for a pretty decent price as I recall, it might not be necessary
to go through Cadence.

>Fred Houn Afro-Asian Ensemble "Tomorrow is Now"  SoulNote 1117

Good, I seem to remember, but I'm spacing.  A lot of vocal
recitations, I think.

- Ben
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From: mcgonig@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca (Gordon McGonigal)
Subject: Current Contents: CODA Magazine (Jan/Feb 93)
Organization: Dept. of Elect. & Comp. Engineering, U of Manitoba
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 07:31:20 GMT

Here is a summay of the Jan/Feb 1993 CODA Magazine:

* Remembering Pops Foster.  Article by Tex Wyndham

* Book Reviews:
  - From Blues to Bop  ("jazz fiction" anthology) ed. R.N. Albert
  - Blues Guitar (selections from Guitar Player Mag.)

* Ralph Moore.  Article by Shaukat A. Husain

* European CDs reviewed by Paul Baker (10 reviews, from Barney Wilen
  to Joelle Leandre).

* New Music Across America festival.   Bill Smith provides his impressions
  of the Vancouver edition (includes Maarten Altena, and a blow-by-blow
  account of the LJCO's appearances).

* Gerry Hemingway Speaks: a conversation with Steve Vickery

* Kevin Whitehead reviews the Victoriaville Fest and also a bit of the
  Toronto edition of New Music Across America.   Lots of big time
  improvisors!

* Larry Young: a thorough review of the Mosaic box set by Elliot Bratton

* Gato Barbieri: Soundtrack for "Notes for an African Orestes".  A short
  video note by Stu Broomer.

* CODA Writers' Poll 1992.  22 "best of 1992" lists.  Buy your copy today
  and find out what our own Nou Dadoun has been listening to!!!

There is also an ad that mentions the Breuker Kollektief will be touring
America this spring!

                                * * *
CODA PUBLICATIONS
BOX 87
STATION 'J'
TORONTO, ONT.
CANADA M4J 4X8

24-hour phone/fax line for charge card orders: (416) 593-7230

U.S. rates in U.S. funds (6 issues = one year):
  regular mail: $24 
  1st class mail: $27

In Canada:
  reg. mail: $25.68 (includes GST)
  1st class: $29.96

Elsewhere (except U.K. [email me for U.K. info]):
  reg. mail: $27 Cdn.
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Payment: M/C, Visa, Int'l money order, or U.S. cheques (for cheques add $0.50
                                                        to cover bank charges)

CODA covers the entire spectrum of "non-commercial" jazz and blues (i.e.,
about the same as Cadence) including some articles devoted to the Canadian
scene.  Do not expect glossy production (they generally have about one B/W
photo per article).  However, do expect quality writing, often on themes not
easily found elsewhere.  Incidentally, CODA is created by the same folks that
bring us Sackville recordings.
--
                                   * * *
Gord McGonigal                                  mcgonig@eeserv.ee.UManitoba.ca
Dept. of Electrical & Computer Engineering
University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, CANADA (R3T 2N2)       phone: (204) 474-6295
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From: smehta@kwela.nynexst.com (Sandeep Mehta)
Subject: Re: On Drugs, Bebop and The Wire
Reply-To: smehta@nynexst.com
Organization: Speech Technology, AI Lab, NYNEX S&T Inc, White Plains, NY
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Date: 30 Dec 92 16:42:54


> rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro) writes:

> Insofar as that myth still holds sway, I think it's not only possible,
> but essential, to debunk it without falling into what you call "the
> pseudo-puritanical American attitude". The series of articles in The
> Wire made a good attempt at doing this. We need more rational thinking
> about drugs and subcultures, not more reliance on cliches (of either

I agree; unfortunately, an en-masse debunking (to coin a phrase) has
become very hard to do in American media without inviting the wrath
of dogmatists from either end of the spectrum. Top that off with the
mystique that seems to surround musicians and we are often left with
a hopelessly intractable situation of raising social awareness.

> Some of the earlier responses to the articles in The Wire seem to be
> premissed on the assumption that drug use is intrinsically "evil" (or
> whatever -- any morally negative term will work as well). If you start
> with that assumption, you already contribute to the propagation of
> this second myth. 

True, however -- and I know this is hard to say convincingly :) --
there are various shades of "evil" -- I use that as a loosely
negative term. It is imperative to separate the obvious (and well
understood) biologically negative effects of certain drugs from vast
and vague (in my opinion) implications of moral "evil". Those who
create the "moral doom is upon us" din drown out the rest when, in
fact, their assumptions are the weakest.

I find that many Asian and African cultures, where some form of
narcotic usage has historic precedence, do not have this apparently
huge moral dilemma which modern occidental societies may well learn
from.

> This moralistic association of drug use with social deviance, which
> has now become very nearly the only acceptable discourse in the
> mainstream domestic press, can't help but increase the appeal of
> drugs in communities whose very identity is defined by their
> distance from the mainstream.  That's why any non-moralistic,
> non-judgemental article on drugs, especially an article that
> appears in a jazz journal, is ok by me.

Me too; though I wonder if The Wire (being as it is mostly based in
Britain/Europe) has the ability to be non-moralistic and bolder more
easily than would be permissible in the domestic US press where
ethical, moral and commercial interests often form strange bedfellows.

/sandeep
--
smehta@nynexst.com
--
        "This space of time is organized. We need not fear these
	 silences, -- we may love them." -- John Cage, Silences, 1961.
From: jb@buddha.ncc.umn.edu (James Barnett)
Subject: New Music in Houston
Organization: Nutrition Coordinating Center, University of Minnesota
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 21:27:44 GMT

I'm currently working with an organization called Creative Music Works based
in Denver, CO.  The current president's name is Alex Lemski.  We are wondering
about new music opportunities in Houston (i.e. post-bop approaches), especially
The SumArts presenter.  Their director is Lanny Steele.  We would like to get 
in contact with him to establish a network of block-booking for similar
artists of interest.  If anybody is familiar with Mr. Steele or SumArts
please sent me e-mail at jb@buddha.ncc.umn.edu (or post if you would like) and 
we could possibly initiate a communication link.  Thanks much.

James Barnett

================================================================================
Creative Music Works
1994 S. Leyden St.
Denver, CO  80224
(303)758-6321
(303)267-4136
================================================================================
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From: jay@unlv.edu (Jay Nietling)
Subject: Re: Concert:Anson Funderburgh HELP
Organization: unlv cs
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 10:38:57 GMT

In article <seale.725733189@bcserv> seale@bcserv.wustl.edu (Seale (Jeff)) writes:
>Anson Funderburgh & the Rockets are playing in St. Louis at
>Off Broadway on Jan. 21st. I have only heard one of their songs
>(which I like) and was wondering if anyone out there had seen them
>and could recommend the show. Also, Johnny Winter is coming the week
>before, is his show worth catching lately?
>Thanks,
> Jeff      Email jeff@grserv.wustl.edu
>
>


i saw anson  a  year or  two ago.  i think that the  band has  changed
since then but surely sam myers and anson will be there.  i'd go.

i have not seen johnny since before his two most  recent  albums, both
of which i like.  again, i would not miss johnny.

-jay
jay@cs.unlv.edu
From: silk@ocean.ENET.dec.com (Nina Silk)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Johnny Hartman
Date: 29 Dec 1992 19:19:50 GMT
Organization: DEC Systems Research Center
Distribution: world
Reply-To: silk@ocean.ENET.dec.com (Nina Silk)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 16.9.48.153

A few years ago I first heard Johnny Hartman on the 
John Coltrane & Johnny Hartman recording. It's so terrific
and I've wanted to follow up and hear more of him but 
I don't know what titles to look for.  Any suggestions?

Thanks!

-- 
Nina Silk                                                                 
silk@ocean.ENET.dec.com     
Digital Equipment Corp, Mountain View, CA
From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: On Drugs, Bebop and The Wire
Date: 31 Dec 92 10:43:44
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
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In-reply-to: mingus@cbnewsl.cb.att.com's message of Thu, 31 Dec 1992 07:38:34 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.073834.11491@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> mingus@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Damballah Wedo) writes:
   It's a fair (and rational) question, then, to ask why
   young musician, having  a wealth of unassailable data (the testimony
   and actions or nonactions of their peers) available to them, would
   nonetheless choose narcotics.

Not only a fair question, but an excellent one.  The implicit claim of
the Wire articles is that we can best answer this question by avoiding
moral judgements and looking at drug use as a cultural fact rather
than a moral one. I agree with that assessment. There are undeniably
strong links between the jazz subculture and the drug subculture,
links that I'd like to see examined coolly and rationally. The less
constrained this discussion is, the more we're likely to get out of
it; the *last* thing we need is some kind of unstated requirement that
all such discussion, if it's to be considered "responsible", must
include a moral judgement of the form "drugs [or drug category X] is
intrinsically evil".
From: mha1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MICHAEL H. ALAIMO)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Jazz Guitar recommendations
Date: 29 Dec 92 20:13:36 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University



    I'm looking to get turned on to something new, but I'm not sure what.
    While recently listening to the 2 earliest Pat Metheny Group albums (Pat
    Meth. Grp., 1978; American Garage, 1979) I realized that I had little
    other guitar stuff.  I like those early albums as Pat has a nice sound on
    his big hollow-body and the group plays tight fusion-type jazz, but
    without some of the bombasticness of the more recent, highly synthesized
    "ensemble" recordings.  Anyone have any album recommendations of similar
    stuff?  Scofield, Abercrombie, etc??


                                                thanks, mike




    .
-- 

--
Mike Alaimo       |      "An' what are yer scientists these days
Dept. Chemistry   |       but a bunch o' undersexed communistic
Leehi U.          |       heaps o' shit with teeth?"
Purloined .sig:   |          -Ma Orviston-  "The River Why"
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Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: FOR SALE: TR-626 RHYTHM COMPOSER
Date: 27 Dec 92 19:17:00 GMT
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From: bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Comments etc.
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:55:11 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Gidi Avrahami writes:

>Bobby Bradford and the Mo'tet : LOST IN L.A.
>	Hey, why didn't I know about this before?  I found it in a used
>	CD place, started to listen, and WOW!  It's a no-piano, two-bass,
>	post-Ornette affair.

This album rules.  (Though I have to admit I'd be happy to listen to
Bobby Bradford clear the spit out of his horn, even.  He is incredible.)
It's on Black Saint, by the way.  Some of the musicians are L.A. people
associated with Horace Tapscott, I think (eg Roberto Miranda on bass).

- Ben
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From: sik@grosz.esd.sgi.com (Seth Katz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote,alt.config,misc.misc
Subject: Re: CFD: Enough Interest Out There To Form a 1920's-30's Jazz/Dance/Big Band Newsgroup?
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:15:58 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA


In article <1992Dec21.183734.23107@netcom.com>, noring@netcom.com writes:
> Hello,
> 
> Though the official intent of rec.music.bluenote is to be all-inclusive (and
> it is a good newsgroup), it is obviously oriented towards post-War jazz and
> blues, effectively stifling discussion of the pre-War era by sheer volume of
> posts.  I don't even read (and rarely post) to rec.music.bluenote for this
(...)
=-=-=-=-
How are posts on pre-war jazz stifled by the existence of other posts?
Start a thread- other threads won't cancel it out.  
Use a threaded newsreader so you can follow the subjects that
interest you.

Anyway I've certainly learned a fair amount about pre-war jazz.  
There are a lot of people who post on bluenote
who know a lot about pre-war jazz.  Don't deprive yourself
of their expertise. 

I'm not interested in another flamewar about splitting r.m.b, but 
I honestly don't understand the need for a group dedicated to 
pre-war jazz.  
=-s
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