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From: john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Encryption Questions
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:07:18 GMT
Reply-To: john@anasazi.com
Organization: Anasazi Inc, Phoenix AZ USA

Keywords: 

In article <BxIMGF.2LG@news.orst.edu> crippenw@ucs.orst.edu (William Crippen) writes:
>	I've been seeing a lot of talk lately about scrambling and encryption,
>        and am wondering about some new noises I'm hearing on  local police
>        frequencies. I hear clicks and beeps on federal channels, and am
>        assuming this is digital encryption. I know the "donald duck" sounds
>        on the local cab frequencies are done with phase inversion. What I'm
>        starting to hear now is a blank noise carrier, followed by a short 
>        high-pitch squeal-like beep. I've even heard replies in normal voice,
>        and I've heard other officers complain about the blank carriers.
>	  Any ideas on what this might be? It seems to be getting more popular
>	in this area. Could it be sub-carrier transmissions like the elevator
>	music attached to regular FM broadcasts?  Thanks for the info....

Digital encryption will sound like broadband noise - ie, it will sound like
your squelch is open on an empty channel. There might be beeps or clicks
before or after it, although I haven't heard such.
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From: johnw@bluemoon.rn.com (John L. Wilkerson Jr.)
Subject: Re: Vtech 900dx Cordless Freqs.
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 04:45:50 EST

jherndo@eis.calstate.edu (John Herndon) writes:

> If you dont already know.. this cordless phone uses the 900Mhz range for
> transmit/receive on base/handset communications.  The frequency range is
> as follows:
> 
> Transmit Frequencies:
> 
> 	Handset 925.5 - 927.4 Mhz
> 	Base	905.6 - 907.5 Mhz  (All 20 Channels Found In This Range)
> 
> Receive Frequencies:
> 
> 	Handset 905.6 - 907.5 Mhz
> 	Base	925.5 - 927.4 Mhz  (All 20 Channels ")
> 
> 
> So, here is the basis of the new possible cordless frontier. 900 Mhz.
> 
> 	==] John Herndon / JHerndo@eis.calstate.edu [==
> 

    I have heard however, that most if not all of the 900 cordless phones 
employ digital encryption.  Montioring those would be useless.
 

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From: rrichman@access.digex.com (Ray Richman)
Subject: Re: Vtech 900dx Cordless Freqs.
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Distribution: USA 
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 06:33:56 GMT

	Can anyone give me some SPECS on the VTECH?  In particular Price, and how
does it compare to the Panasonic KXT-9000.  I am aware that MONITORING
TIMES  did an article on one or both recently, w/I beleive someone is
going to FAX me on MON (If you see this, I'll leave my computer setup to
receive all day), but I'd still like more info.  This is to help a friend
decide which phone to buy.  I know about the PANASONIC, but have never
heard of the VTECH 900dx.

Thank's Any replies appreciated
Ray Richman
rrichman@access.digex.com 	
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From: davea@hotcity.COM (Dave Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: New scanner laws?
Date: 4 Nov 92 15:51:19 GMT
Organization: BBS

In article <1992Nov2.144727.9578@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, whs70@dancer.uucp
(22501-sohl) writes:
>In article <1992Nov02.024436.26637@onetouch.COM> jwidner@onetouch.COM (Jim
Widne
>r) writes:
>>Someone told me recently that since the scanner bill passed in
>>Congress, I should consider getting a scanner now.
        ... ... ...
>The implication of waiting is that after one year from the passage of the
>new law, it will be illegal for a manufacturer to produce new scanners
>that include coverage of the cellular telephone frequencies (in
>the 800mhz band).  So, if you have any desire to have a full
>coverage scanner then buying one during the next year would
>be wise.
>
>Even after the one year expires, you'll probably still find new
>scanners available with the cellular coverage for some period
>of time as the stores will be able to keep selling any existing
>stock they may have.
>
And then again they did make all those toys for the CB illegal; but looking for
them does not make it impossabe to to get (, unfortutally).  Just more work for
our (US) gistopo (sp) forces to chase after.  Personally I think it would be
better to move into advanced technology (better to have 5 in R & D than 2 in 
enforcement of old ways & 3 in R & D).  But alast I am only one.
Dave, This  T E S T  BBS, 408-847-0911
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Best transmissions
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 07:09:42 GMT

clark@angelo.amd.com (Brad D. Clark) writes:

... most of story deleted ...

: UNK: I may be stupid, but I'm not THAT f*cking stupid.
: 
: (it was at that point I fell off the chair from laughing so hard)

This sounds suspiciously like the UL that is usually attributed to
an airline pilot.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: thanks -- voice activated.....
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:18:13 GMT

Bruce@Pixar.com (Bruce Perens) writes:
: > I prefer the policy of DAK, which allows
: > return for any reason - including not liking the color or shape.
: > No argument at all.
: >
: Wait a minute - isn't DAK out of business?

Nope.

: Perhaps that's why they went out of business? I think you'd have a hard
: time returning anything, for any reason, to them now.

No, they had a Help DAk sale, but never went out of business. What happened
is that the bank with which they had a multiple million dollar line of
credit changed managers and cut off their credit. DAK went to court, and
the credit line has been reestablished - at least, for now. I expect that
they are looking for a new bank.

They are still in business - they have even added more people to cut the
phone wait on orders/techhelp.

Bill
From: paul@hsh.com
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Baby Monitors/Cordless Phones
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:43:49 GMT
Organization: HSH Associates

In article <1dseb8INNjb0@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, 49ers@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Renie
Maycon) writes: 
> I found out that cordless/baby monitors are on the same frequency by neighbor
> has one and they keep it on every day and night I here what goes on in that
> room all the time is that wrong or what? the range is 49-49.99 does any body 
> have similiar experiences or what I want to know ? I want to hear different 
> stories from other people.

I've long been aware that a lot of families willingly 'bug' themselves, 24 
hours a day, for several months after their child is born.  I've even 'met'
some neighbors by, for example, listening to when they are getting ready to
leave the house, and then strolling around to see *who* leaves. 

Whether you feel it's "wrong" to listen in is up to you.  I don't, anymore, 
because frankly there's better listening out there (gotta love those Burger 
King drive-through windows, or what?).  The courts have ruled in the case of 
cordless phones, at least, that users have "no reasonable right to privacy" 
because they're using radio devices.  Of course, we also have Stupid Congress
Tricks that "outlaw" the same thing on a different frequency... 

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From: "david toste" <david.toste@canrem.com>
Subject: best
Reply-To: "david toste" <david.toste@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 5 Nov 92 08:34:28 EST

Ok here is an other one:
This one I got off a friend.

He was listening to the cordless stuff, show it off to a friend of this,
the scanner stoped and they started to listen in, it was a guy and gal,
and from what he could get was that they where talking about the big
night before, motels, whip cream, (you get the idea), so my friend
decided to give her a call, he got here number afew weeks back when she
called for a pizza, so it goes like this.

She: Hold a sec John my other line.
Click
Friend: Hi there how are you feeling? A little sore?
She: Who is this?!
Friend: What do you mean who is this? Don't you remember me, last night
        at the Sunset Motel, the whip cream, don't tell me you forgot!
She: HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW!?
Friend : I was there!
She: Hold a sec.
Click.
She: John there's someone on the other line, he know what happened last
     night, about everything. Hold a sec.
CLICK.
Friend: Who are you talking to? You know I hate it when you talk to
        other guy's, and why are you telling him what happened to us
        last night. Are you planing to do the same with him.?
She: Who THE FU*K Is THIS!
Friend: Look Baby, I'm tired of you playing games, you could of not
        forgotten what happened last night, you know baby, I'ld like to
        come on over and mybe have a more fun! How about it? I'm out
        side in the white van.

And of course theres a white van in front of the house. When he
told her about the van he saw here stick her head to the window to look
out to see if there was really a van.

She: Who is this why are you doing this for.
Click.(Hang UP)
She: Oh my God, John there in front of my house.
John: Can you see anyone in the van?
She: No! I'm afriad, there's no one home.
RING.
She: Call waiting, hold a sec.
CLICK.
Friend: Why did you hang up on me?
She: Leave me alone.
Friend: Look I saw you look out the window, I'm coming over now.

He went out side with his cordless, and started to knock at the door,
that's when you could hear her yell from Texas to New York.

Friend: Come on open the door, it's cold out here, I'll find my own way
        in if you don't open it for me!

This is some thing out of a movie eh!
So she flips over to the other line.

She: Oh shit John there at my door, he's going to break in, oh god
     there's no one home.
John: Grab a knife anything I'm coming over, hide.
CLICK.

John ended up there in 5 minutes flat!
As you would expect the phone(cordless) went dead after that, but after
months of nothing it's back on line.

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From: crh@wam.umd.edu (Craig Hinners)
Subject: Re: Best Transmissions
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:25:09 GMT

Montgomery County, Maryland

Dispatch: Two-Baker-Four, check on a traffic hazard on Randolph at the R.R.

2B4: Nature?

Dis: Citizen reports crossing gates down blocking traffic.

2B4: 10-4

[half a minute]

2B4: Two-Baker-Four back.

Dis: Go ahead...

2B4: Uh, the crossing arms are down because there's a train coming...
     [sound of train whistle]

***

A couple weeks back I hear a police call go out for a DWI in progress at
Chi Chi's phoned in by an employee who saw an intoxicated individual leave
the restaurant and approach his car.

By the time the cops get there, he's gone of course, but a lookout goes out
for a red Thunderbird with Md. plates xxx-xxx.

A few minutes later, I hear the FD on the state highway I live near, so I
switch over to Fire Dispatch and learn they are responding for a car into
a pole.

Switch back to the police who arrive on scene of the PIA and determine it's
the red Thunderbird with the intoxicated driver that had left Chi Chi's a
few minutes before...

Talk about getting what's coming to you!

craig
From: miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: New BC200XLT Mod, anybody tried it yet?
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:06:00 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky, USA. -5 GMT

I have one of the newer BC200XLT scanners that use the "surface mount"
resistor instead of the "normal" type.
I have a copy of the mod, and have taken apart the radio and found the
resistor and IC involved.
In one of Bob Parnass' articles, (i believe) he mentions that one must
"not solder in anyway" these "surface mount" electronics.
My question is, has anyone tried the mod on the "newer" BC200XLT scanner?
I have a brand new radio and don't want to ruin it.
Thanks in advance.
From: dxk21@po.cwru.edu (DaveK)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Cellular shadows
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 03:16:20 GMT
Organization: Case
NNTP-Posting-Host: b63535.student.cwru.edu


      Is it a common occurrance to hear the cellular conversations
while close to a tower in the 400 band?  Have most of you noticed that
this can happen?  It would seem to me that the 400 freq. would be 1/2 of
the 800...  is this true?  If true, this could really throw some kinks
into the laws....



dk
From: rjd@cup.portal.com (R J Decker)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: What is diff between BC200 and BC205?
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 02:49:44 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

Not that the cellular restoration mod for newer BC200XLT scanners is
to add a resistor to the resistor which in the old mod was to be cut.

The 'new' mod calls for soldering in a 1/8 watt (pref.) or 1/4 watt
resistor (range 2.2K ... 10K ohm) rather than cutting an existing
resistor.

Connect the new resistor between the *** end of the resistor the old
mod said to cut, and pin 8 of the K1013 IC.  The new surface mount
resistors are labeled with their value. A 10K ohm resistor = 103.
103 = 10 * (10**3) = 10,000

*** = the end away fron the K1013; the left end when reading the
UNIDEN UC-1147A label right side up.

Pin 8 = corner pin nearest the existing resistor (above); looking at 
the K1013 IC with the small semicircle cutout at top, pin 1 is upper
left, pins count counterclockwise from there so 8 will be upper right
if IC in that orientation.

On my circuit board there are no typical resistors (cylindrical with
bands of color) just little numbered chips: surface mount components.
You need to do soldering for this mod.  Difficulty - I have not done
this [yet?].

                        _____
                      -|     |-
                      -|     |-  <-- K1013
                      -|     |-
                     /-|8_ _1|-
                    |
        /--- AAA --/
       |
        \
    ***  103
   ------------
  |   UNIDEN   |
  |  UC-1147A  |


103 = existing 10K ohm resistor (or small rectangular component)
AAA = resistor to add
 (not to scale}

To paraphrase from my reliable source:  procedure must not be
attempted by anyone unfamiliar with electronic circuitry; no liability
assumed for damage; this will void your waranty.

** The first word of this should ne "Note"

rjd@cup.portal.com
From: "derek buchler" <derek.buchler@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: neighbors & scanners
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:44:14 EST
Reply-To: "derek buchler" <derek.buchler@channel1.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Channel 1 Communications


PU>Listening to the neighbors cordless conversations is ONE thing,
PU>calling them up, annoying them, and banging on their door is
PU>something else, and illegal.

I agree with with the above but what about a situation where you
overheard a neighbor talking about how he/she had broken the law.  Then
what?  Are you morally obligated to report the crime, or can one be
prosecuted for repeating something that was not intended for him/her to
hear?

Derek
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From: hsieh1@carson.u.washington.edu (Darrell Kirk)
Subject: 900 Mhz Cordless Phones out in Seattle
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:40:57 GMT

Best Products Inc, in Seattle Washington is selling the new Panasonic KXT-9000
cordless phone.   It is a very compact, flip phone style unit that lists
for $399.00.   It has 30 channel "auto scanning" and a "sound charger"
employing 1,000,000 security codes.   

While checking out the unit, a customer assured me it was the best phone
on the market and that he was thinking of picking one up.   When I asked
what he liked most about the unit he remarked about its range of 1/2
mile!
From: uni@acs.bu.edu (Shaen Bernhardt)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Back to best radio transmissions
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:13:11 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA


Overheard in Chicago:

Chicago Police (18th District) [Rather well to do area]

Dispatch:
Got a distrubance at 123 Sample St.  Any Units nearby?

[Pause of perhaps 30 seconds]

Dispatch:
Anyone want to take this call at 123 Sample St.?

[Pause of perhaps 15 seconds]

Dispatch:
Ok units, I'm going to draft someone...

[Pause of perhaps 5 seconds]

Dispatch:
Ok, for this distrubance at 123 Sample St., the first church of [whatever]
unit 1821 you have been saved!

Unit 1821:
Awwwww, man....

Other unidentified unit:
Hallelujah!

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From: david_waters@smtp.ESL.COM ("David Waters")
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re- Skip Channels
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:03:06 GMT
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Subject:Re: Skip Channels                                          11/12/92
In article <1dsspcINNohl@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, 49ers@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Renie
Maycon) wrote:
> 
> Does any one know any skip channels?
162.55 162.475 and 162.400 are popular ones to skip.
> 
> I live in Union City,CA and I was wondering if it is possible to here any one
> in the east coast on certain day? I heard it is possible. does any one have 
> any comments on that.   
Not just anyone, but Wednesdays are best.
> 
> I need under cover freqs for  Oakland Ca.
OK, they're xxx.xx and xxx.xxxx (sorry, they're under cover) 
> Does any have any FBI freqs for the Bay Area, San Francisco/Oakland Bay Area
yes.
> 
> 
> Has any one ever picked up any baby monitors in there neigborhood
Mostly from room to room, but that was in the old neighborhood.
> 
> What is the farthest any has ever picked up on there scanner?
If you count celestial noise, perhaps a few light years away.
> 
> I have the 200XLT Bearcat modified for cellular phones
Thank you for sharing.
> 
> And I was wondering what is another good hand held scanner good for the money
> that you can modify?
a Bearcat BC100XLT
> 
> 
> Does any body know the code for a gang fight?
Never use your bare hands.
> 
> What is the average a person listens on a scanner a week?
84 hours, on average.
> 
> When you first buy it that is when you really listen, then you don't listen
> as much only when you here a siren or on weekends when it is most busy 
> am I right or what?
Or what. Right?
> 
> In my part of california san francisco,san jose,oakland are the most busiest
> channels .  What other parts of the country are the best cities to listen to?
The Southeast is nice, but I prefer the Northwest.

(?) Hope I answered your questions.
Sorry, I'm having a bad day.

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From: kevin.jessup <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Re: What is diff between BC200 and BC205?
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 14:05:35 GMT

In <1992Nov5.152118.16636@ms.uky.edu> miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant) writes:

>I believe the only difference is the color of the case.
>200 = black and the 205 = grey. is that right?

My 200xlt came with a gray case, my 100xlt with black.

My wife does not like those "heavy looking" scanners.
She ordered the pocket-sized "70xlt lite".  Kind of like the
"Lady Remington".  It has all the features of the standard
70xlt put comes in a soft pink pastel!

-- 
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From: joes@sw.stratus.com (Joseph Spriano)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: rs 200 chnl scanner 4 sale
Date: 5 Nov 92 10:18:44 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.



Hi sorry for the repost but  several people mentioned they would like to see the
model number of the scanner in the add so I am reposting it with the model number.


I have a a 200 chnl scanner (model RS pro 2021 (base/mobile) unit with car mag
 mount antenna (model unknown)
It covers up to 960 and is a year old. Hardly used. I use my hand held more.
Asking $225 + shipping BRO. I have the owners manual too. If you are near a fax
I could fax the specs to you. 



I will be posting some interesting NE freq. shortly. Just have to finish the
typing of them. 


Joe
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From: mla@pilot.njin.net (Marc L. Appelbaum)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: How to go mobile in New York
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:04:19 GMT
Organization: NJ Intercampus Network
Cc: mla

In article <Bx8BtH.G71@eis.calstate.edu> jherndo@eis.calstate.edu (John Herndon) writes:

> How about PRESS.  They should probably be able to carry scanners in their
> cars.  TO chase down that news story.

Most newspapers have a permit that covers their employees.
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From: paul@hsh.com
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Cellular/Cordless phone privacy.
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:32:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HSH Associates

In article <1992Nov07.190443.2820@mixcom.com>, kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com (kevin.jessup) writes:
> Just repeating a sig that I saw on the net recently (probably in
> alt.radio.scanner).  Not sure if I got it exactly right...
> 
>       "Any radio waves you choose to send through my body are
>          for me to use as I see fit!"
> 
> I kind of liked that one.  Any other opinions?

I've heard it expressed another way:

"Any radio waves that trespass on my property *become* my property."

Another way of stating that radio waves are public property. 
Or used to be......

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