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From: wallich@iti.org (Kenneth Wallich)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BOOTS!
Keywords: ME NEED BOOTS!
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:06:16 GMT
Distribution: ba

brad@intransit.tcs.com (Brad Whitaker) writes:

>In article <17h69nINNs3t@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn) writes:
>> 
>> 	What kind of boots do you wear and WHERE did you get them?

>I've had Corbin RoadMaster boots for several months now. Overall I think
>they are great: very comfortable, offer good protection, well designed,
>and good quality materials.  Despite this, my particular pair wasn't
>"finished" very well: some of the leather pieces don't quite line up
>properly. I got them at RoadRider in San Jose. I think they cost $179.
>(This was about $10 less than list.)

I've had my RoadMasters for about 2 years.  They are the most
comfortable motorcycle-ready boots I have to walk in.  I usually wear
them all day (I used to wear my boots to work and from, and change to
tennis shoes for the rest of the day).  I have to agree about mediocre
finish work though.  Some of the velcrow closure has torn after two
years (and it will be difficult to repair, for me anyway), and the
leather flap that is suppose to save your leg from the zipper is too
thin and won't stay in place anymore.  They also scuff easily, and
don't tend to keep a shine for very long.  They *are* motorcycle boots
though.

So, for $180, I think they are pretty good.  I'd like better finish
work, but the comfort makes up for it.  The soles seem to be wearing
well too.

>> 	Any preferences for pullon/laceon boots?

>[...] If you get lace ups, make sure the laces are tucked away
>so that they can't get caught on the bike!  The Corbin boots use a 
>zipper (which has leather cover with velcro.) The pull-on, zip-up, velcro
>shut Corbins are much more convenient than the lace-up combat boots.

I'd agree here.  The side zipper/velcrow works very well for me.  A
friend has back-zipper boots (I don't know the brand), that he liked a
lot.  After years of lace-up boots, and snagging the laces at stop
signs, I won't wear them again while riding.  It is way too humbling
to be leading a pack of drooling quasi-humans on bikes through the
urban jungle, stop at a stop sign, then have to dismount and get
some lady to tie your laces for you.  I was *sooo* embarrased.

--
Ken Wallich
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Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: ian@lassen.wpd.sgi.com (Ian Clements)
Subject: Am I the first?
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 21:30:03 GMT


 Yeah!  Ask and ye shall receive!
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From: mayer@sono.uucp (Ron Mayer)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Loans for new motorcycle.
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:49:27 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California


Anyone have any tips on financing a new motorcycle?  My cage died
again (it's doing this twice a year); so I figured it's finally time
for me to look for a new vehicle.  I had about $4000 saved up for a
bike; but the one I'm most interested in lists for about $7495 (but I
see they're having a "sale" for about $1100 less until the middle of
next month).

In coming up with the other $3500, I looked into financing from the
dealer, a credit union, and my bank.  Strangely, at least according to
friends who financed cars, the dealer had the best rate.  Is there any
reason against financing through the dealer?

Also, when buying a new bike, how negotiable are the prices?

    Ron
From: efk00@cd.amdahl.com (Eddie Kieger)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles.harley,alt.motorcycles.harley,ba.market.misc,ba.market.vehicles
Subject: Re: WANTED: pre-EVO HD Sporty engine
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:35:35 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


Hey all: A friend of mine is looking for an older (pre-EVO) sporty 
motor. Any help locarting a GOOD used motor would be appreciated.

Thanx, Eddie

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From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: a mission honda/yamaha testemonial
Date: 4 Sep 92 04:11:50 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

the new bike had a trashed battery,so i ran down to auto parts club
(which has mcy batteries, but not the one for my bike :-() and then
over to mission hon/yam to see if they had one. 

they were sold out, but they were kind enough to let me use their
phone to call other SF shops for one--in vain, unfortunately. 

when i got off the phone, wendy (salespern) asked me if i had any
luck, and then, when i told her "no," suggested that i ask the
service dept. if they had any used batteries that were in not too bad
shape.  i went back there and they swapped my trashed battery for one
that would take a charge. when i asked how much he wanted for it, he
said that i should just leave my old one as a swap. 

now *THAT* is the way to get me back into that store and spend my 
money. 


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-- bob pasker
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From: rbp@netcom.com (Bob Pasker)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: where to go for honda service
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:13:13 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

did i already tell you about mission hon/yam?  so far,they've been
quite good to me.


BA.MOTO IS GREAT!!!!


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--- bob pasker
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From: echo@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Hagame uno mas!  Esos son muy cool!)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Who has a Kawasaki KZ400?
Date: 3 Sep 1992 16:54:28 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


Not too long ago I purchased my first motorcycle (a '76 KZ400).  Having
just now ridden an '84 Seca 750, I feel the need to upgrade to something
a bit bigger.  So I'd like to sell my KZ400.  The problem is that it
runs kind of funny.  Instead of the engine running smoothly, it runs
smooth, then sort of hiccups a bit, runs smooth, hiccups, etc.  This
looks really silly when it gets bad, with me lurching back and forth
as the bike does its thing.

Has anybody had an experience with something like this?  It seems like
the timing's off, but I didn't think 4-strokes had timing.  The valves
were just adjusted and that helped a little bit, but not a lot.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  BTW, I'm not a technical
idiot, so you don't have to worry about me not understanding.  I'm just
not at all familiar with this engine.  If I can get the engine running
smoother I can ask for a bit higher price for the bike.

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From: ian@lassen.wpd.sgi.com (Ian Clements)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: where to go for yamaha service
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:00:05 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <la9thqINNgfh@spim.mips.com> jackc@vermont.mips.com (Jack Choquette) writes:

>I've been following the post on honda service but many places seem to
>limit themselves to just honda.  Does anyone know where to go for 
>inexpensive but good service for yamahas or motorcycles in general?

 I just had my bike ('89 Katana 750) worked on in Campbell.  I can honestly 
say they did a good job.  The bike runs better than it ever has when it was
tuned at the dealer (Cycle Imports, Santa Clara--*NEVER* take anything to 
them for repair. Ever.  And San Mateo Honda/Suzuki).

 The prices are a bit lower than a dealer's (worth it).  The shop is clean
and appears to be well run.  There were several different police bikes in
for service--I take this as a good sign.  The best part is that they don't 
take reservations.  Call Greg, tell him you're dropping off your bike and
he'll let you know how long and how much it will cost.  

 I live in Redwood City and taking my bike there is a real pain but I intend 
to take it back. 

 If you're interested, call Spears: 

 	Spears Enterprises
	100 Cristich Lane 
	Campbell, CA 
	408 879 0724

	222 Keyes Street
	San Jose, CA
	408 971 6787
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From: gtchen@glacier.berkeley.edu (George Chen)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: FAQ
Date: 26 Aug 1992 22:51:38 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: glacier.berkeley.edu

I just found this newsgroup and haven't located any FAQ yet.
I've been toying with the idea of getting a motorcycle.  My
justification is that I can't see myself driving my 'stang as
a commuter vechicle and my bicycle just won't cut it when I
wake up late for those early morning meetings.  Besides, it
looks like fun!  So here are a few questions:

1.	What do you recommend for someone who has never ridden
	a motorcycle (but who does have a lot of cycling 
	experience--don't know how well the skills carry over).
2.	Are there courses for beginners.
3.	What's the annual cost for things like gas, maintenance,
	and insurance.
4.	Where can I buy one.
5.	What about size.  This is the biggest problem for me as
	of now.  I went to a Honda showroom, just browsing, and
	didn't find a single bike that I would feel comfortable
	riding.  I'm only 5'4" so I'm on my tippy toes for most
	bikes.  Any recommendations?

Thanks.
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From: leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BOOTS!
Keywords: ME NEED BOOTS!
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:23:12 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Demagogues of Darkness

I got my boots by mail order from either the Shepler's western wear
catalog or the Wear Guard catalog (I don't remember which one, but I'm
pretty sure it was Wear Guard).  They're the square-toed kind with the
harness and steel rings.  They've saved my feet a couple of times.
Oil-resistant soles, too.  Don't remember offhand how much I paid for
them, but it was ~$80.

Cheers,
	- Leigh Ann

Leigh Ann Hussey 		leighann@sybase.com
DoD#5913	AMA#624549      AWRRA#23
"And they ride, and they ride/ And the White Hounds run beside/ And they'll
seize the night and shake it by the throat."
From: tim@electron.mips.com (Tim Layman)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Looking for non-anal-retentive moto examiner
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:19:43 GMT
Reply-To: tim@electron.mips.com (Tim Layman)
Organization: Mips Computer Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: electron.mips.com

In article <pbnl2oo@fido.asd.sgi.com>, spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com (Paul Spencer) writes:
|> leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey) says:
|> > 
|> > Him: ride at a walking pace, inside the circle there.
|> > 
|> > I ride inside the circle.
|> > 
|> > Him: Actually, you need to stay inside the outer circle, but outside the
|> > inner circle.
|> 
|> You rode INSIDE THE INNER CIRCLE? What were you on, a trials bike?
|> 
|> ....paul
|> 
|> -- 
|> Paul Spencer                 Silicon Graphics Advanced Graphics Division
|> spencer@sgi.com                                Mountain View, California

I can do it on my Yamaha Radian. In fact I did some practicing doing circles
in my driveway. They were about 12-13' radius turns. Anybody know the dimensions
of the DMV circles? OD and ID?

	Tim

P.S. But on a Heritage Softail Classic? Now that would be tough... ;^)
From: ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Where can I buy a good leather/aerostitch jacket
Date: 29 Aug 92 15:05:27 GMT
Followup-To: ba.motorcycles
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <1992Aug29.012049.15374@tcsi.com>, brad@intransit.tcs.com (Brad
Whitaker) wrote:
> 
> Don't hold your breath waiting for the Aerositch catalog to arrive. Mine 
> showed up a good 3-4 months after I called them. (But they're faster than
> Corbin - I ordered a Corbin catalog at about the same time and it's still
> not here!)

Hmm. I called and got my Rider Wearhouse catalog in 3 days.

I ordered a suit, which arrived in 5 days. That was a Thursday morning. 
The pants were a little too long. I called to request an exchange for
a set of shorter pants, but I was leaving that Sunday. I received the
new pants Saturday morning (did cost $40 extra for 1 day air and saturday
delivery), and they accepted the original pair back for full credit 4 
weeks later, after I returned from my trip. Even sent a nice personal
note thanking me for my comments about the suit.

As to Corbin, I called to price a seat for my Hawk GT. They didn't have
one in stock at the time and told me it would be 5 weeks. I sighed and 
said ok. The seat arrived 6 days later, with personal note saying that
the order taker felt my need for a better seat sounded fairly important
so they rushed it for me. (I could not ride the Hawk without a better
seat... my hip wouldn't work on the stocker, so I couldn't put my 
foot on the peg.) I was fairly delighted.

Is it just me?
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"Logic may be the beginning of wisdom, but logic never bought
 me a Ducati."
 Rule #1: Never sell a Ducati.
 Rule #2: Always obey Rule #1.
Honda VFR700 Interceptor 1987, "Bright White" 
Ducati 750GT             1975, "Thunder"
Ducati 250 Mk III Diana  1966, sleeping beauty
Toyota MR2               1985, "VSSC"
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From: spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com (Paul Spencer)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Looking for non-anal-retentive moto examiner
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:15:49 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA

leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey) says:
> 
> Him: ride at a walking pace, inside the circle there.
> 
> I ride inside the circle.
> 
> Him: Actually, you need to stay inside the outer circle, but outside the
> inner circle.

You rode INSIDE THE INNER CIRCLE? What were you on, a trials bike?

....paul

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Paul Spencer                 Silicon Graphics Advanced Graphics Division
spencer@sgi.com                                Mountain View, California
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: where to go for honda service
Date: 26 Aug 92 05:59:38 GMT
Followup-To: ba.motorcycles
Distribution: ba
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <1992Aug26.013405.26961@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, (Dean Cookson) writes:
> In article <88an8ak.rbp@netcom.com>, rbp@netcom.com (Bob Pasker) wrote:
>> BA.MOTO IS GREAT!!!!
> True.  'Course it's only an artifact of how screwy news software is that
> lets
> me get it here in Cleveland. :-)

that's ok, i've been getting tx.moto, aus.moto, and even fj.moto!  damn,
those fj guys get their *OWN* group.  but seriously, unless you have a
kanji terminal, i'd stay away from fj.moto.

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Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: gwu@nujoizey.tcs.com (George Wu)
Subject: Re: FAQ
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:33:30 GMT

In article <17k1kaINN1m2@agate.berkeley.edu>, dcook@garnet.berkeley.edu (Dan Cook) writes:
> In article <1992Aug26.202346.375@halfdome.sf.ca.us> bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
> >
> >look for a rebel 250 or an srx 250.  that should fit you well and will 
> >be easy to learn on.
> 
> Hear, hear for the srx 250! A friend of mine just bought one (she is
> probably about 5'4'' or maybe less) and she likes it a lot... They are
> really light and have pretty good brakes although not a whole lot of
> power, which is OK for someone just starting out...
> 
> I have seen one for sale around the berkeley campus (on the northside,
> parked on hearst ave.)... 

     The Berkeley Yamaha dealer on Gilman got one as tradein a couple
of weeks ago.  I think it had about 5K miles on it, and although he
hadn't set a price yet, Scott was planning to ask for $1300 - $1500.
I asked because I'm going to sell mine in a few months.  If you're still
looking then, watch for the post.

							George

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From: steve@presto.ig.com (Steve Barnhouse)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: tires (was Re: misc. ramblings)
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:40:29 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: IntelliGenetics, Inc., Mountain View, California USA

In article <1992Aug26.123812.369@halfdome.sf.ca.us> bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>In article <qybnfjm.blave@netcom.com>, blave@netcom.com (David W. Blevins) writes:
>>PS I'm probably going to go
>> for Metzler (sp?) ME33 front/ME99 rear.  Any naysayers?

>the 55 was supposed to be an updated version of the 99, i.e. newer
>compound and tread design.  i got seriously quick lousy weare from the 
>55 on my k75s: about 3500 miles. the 88s wore better on that bike (till
>i crashed it :), and i'm getting 8k out of an 88.
>

Emmy has Metzler ME33 front and ME99 rear on her bike.  The ME99 rear
is looking pretty worn in the center after about 6000 miles.  However,
she was lax about maintaining the pressure for a while.  The ME33
front still looks new.  She likes how they handle, but she's not a
very agressive rider.  I've run 33 front and 88 rear on my bike and
was happy with that combination.  I forget what kind of mileage I got,
but I know it was better then 6000 miles and they did pretty well in
the rain.  I think I'll put an 88 back on the rear this winter for the
rainy season when my dual-purpose tire wears out.

--steve                                          steve@presto.ig.com
From: mojo@Caere.COM (Morris Jones)
Subject: Motors West changed hands
Organization: Caere Corp.
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 00:34:17 GMT

Just discovered yesterday when I took my Concours in for a tune and service.

Motors West Kawasaki Yamaha in Campbell (Winchester and Campbell Rd.) is now
owned by Camden Honda.  Motors West and Grand Prix were part of the same
company, Onstal Corp.  I have no idea what's become of Grand Prix.

Everything looks the same so far, except the personnel.  I'm going to miss
Charlie the former service manager.  It was never a great place to shop for
a motorcycle, but it was within walking distance of home.

Mojo
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From: mojo@Caere.COM (Morris Jones)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: ANNOUNCING: 2nd Annual DoD ERC - still room!
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:13:18 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Caere Corp.

The DoD ERC for September has been RESCHEDULED (due to lack of
available instructors) for September 26th or September 27th (two
separate classes).  There is still room for a few interested DoDers!

The program is the MSF Experienced Rider Course, primary instructor is
yours truly, Morris Jones, CMSP Site Coordinating Instructor for San
Jose South.

The location is Newark, CA, just across the freeway from Fremont, and
just across the Dumbarton Bridge from Palo Alto.

Cost is $65, with a $10 rebate given at the class as a group discount.

The ERC includes four hours of classroom work, and four hours of riding
exercises focusing on braking, cornering, and swerving.

Prerequisite riding experience is six months and about 5,000 miles of
riding.

You should have a valid motorcycle license or permit, and will be asked
to show proof of liability insurance for your motorcycle.  Your
motorcycle should also pass a cursory safety inspection.

To sign up, call Motorcycle Saftey Training Centers, Inc., (800)
669-7994.  Also write to me, mojo@caere.com, to be added to the doderc
mailing list.

You can address interested parties currently by mailing to
doderc@caere.com.

Mojo
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From: arends@Metaphor.COM (Dale M. Arends)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BOOTS!
Keywords: ME NEED BOOTS!
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:17:57 GMT
Reply-To: arends@Metaphor.COM (Dale M. Arends)
Distribution: ba
Organization: m4

In article <17h69nINNs3t@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn) writes:
|> 
|> 	What kind of boots do you wear and WHERE did you get them?  I dunno
|> about the big ass shitkicker cowboy boots.  I'm heading over to road rider
|> later this week to look there.  I've checked a few of the places in SC and
|> I wandered through the Winchester Western Wear last weekend.  WWW says that
|> they'll be getting in some new shipments in a week or two -- they've got a
|> damn lot of boots.
|> 
|> 	Any preferences for pullon/laceon boots?  I'd hate to have my boots
|> fly off in a crash and let my tender tootsies get all scratched up....
|> 
|> -- 
|> The Wailer at the Gates of Dawn              | banshee@cats.UCSC.EDU       |
|> Just who ARE you calling a FROOFROO Head?    |                             |
|> DoD#0667  "Just a friend of the beast."      | banshee@ucscb.UCSC.EDU      |
|> 2,3,5,7,13,17,19,31,61,89,107,127,521,607....| banshee@ucscb.BITNET        |

I like pull on boots that come up at least mid-calf.  Be sure that the ones
you get have textured non-leather soles for traction when stopped.

A good place to check is any Red Wing shoe store.  They have a large selection
of quality boots.  Mine are still good after almost 6 years of heavy usage.

Dale
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Any opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of my employer.  They
probably aren't interested and maybe don't agree and therefore ...
From: raible@nas.nasa.gov (Eric Raible)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: misc. ramblings
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:48:23 GMT
Reply-To: raible@nas.nasa.gov
Distribution: ba
Organization: Applied Research Office, NASA Ames Research Center


In article <5wcn7#a.shoun@netcom.com> shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun) writes:

   Well, I do recommend removing the wheel yourself and taking it in to
   Road Rider or Zoom for a new tire but if you really don't want to
   do it yourself... Go to Zoom and buy a new tire, put tire around waist
   and ride two blocks down the street to Hole Shot Cycle, laughing
   hysterically the whole time. Hole shot will remove wheel, mount and
   balance. I had both tires replaced at once for $50. Zoom's prices
                                                       ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^
   include mounting and balancing but if you tell them you will be
   ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^^^
   using Hole Shot they discount the price a bit. Zoom is in Santa Clara
   on El Camino, east of Lawrence Expressway.

So why not have them mount and balance them then?

I don't get it...

- Eric