From: pauly@netcom.com (Paul Yoshimune)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: 9mm IPSC loads [summary]...
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:14:25 GMT
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Well, I didn't get as much response to the 9mm IPSC question as I thought I
would, but here are the results nonetheless.  Much thanks to those who gave
load suggestions; they are much appreciated.  Following are the responses I
got, as well as my original post...


The Question:
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Well, I recently acquired a SIG P226 (happy! happy! joy! joy!), and was going
to use it for IPSC shooting.  I know I can't make major (at this time) with a
standard 9x19, but that doesn't much concern me.  What I'm looking for is a 
proven load that will give me something to the effect of a 150 power factor.
I know I could drop the velocity a great deal and shoot 125-130, but I want to
be sure poppers go down with some regularity.

So anyway, I imagine a 147gr bullet would be much preferable to a 115 or 124,
since the latter bullets would require about 1300 fps to make 150 pf.  The
147, on the other hand, can get by with around 1000 or so.

So, if anyone is shooting 9mm minor IPSC, please post/mail your loads.


The Responses:
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I use now 124grain lead SWCs over 0.29grams (4.5 grains I think) of HP38.
That is a good minor load. I used 0.30 and .031 grams earlier, but the
pressure was too high for lead bullets (bullets hit the target sideways).

I think I'll try out 147grain bullets as soon as I run out of 124s.

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u can try a load that I use in a Glock and sometimes in my Boland 9Major.

147 CP
7.0gr of WW-571
Federal primer
good brass - (no crap stuff like RP or WIN)

This makes 150 in my Glock and will do a popper with little trouble.
This load is beyond max (but not by much) and may not do for your
SIG what it does for my Glock.

Those of us that do 9Major right know that the lighter bullets are NOT
the way to go.  If there is enough interest I will post the specifics.

Bill	burge@qdeck.com

"Stand back folks - this one's a nine major!" - RO

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I am using a 147 grain copper plated bullet from Western Nevada Bullet over
4.6 grains of Herco. This load was mentioned in an article I read as being
good in a Glock 17, I am using a 17L. It should be right at 150 or so.

The primer is winchester, BTW. 147 grain lead works equally well for me,
but the plated bullets are cleaner. I like the herco because it almost
fills the case when the bullet is seated, and seems to burn clean. 


Followup:
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I also called Sierra (the bulletmakers) to see what they had to say, since
they have a toll-free number they claim you can ask any sort of questions on,
regardless of whether you use their stuff or not.  They suggested AA#7, Blue
Dot, and 231 were the best powders to be using for this sort of work.  For
115gr bullets, 5.5 grains of 231 should give 1250 fps, according to them.  My
Winchester booklet claims 5.1 grains will give you 1125 fps at 30,500 cup with
FMJ ammo.  (I'm under the assumption that the ballistics will be similar for
FMJ and JHP ammo...correct me if I'm wrong, please!)  Anyway, I ended up
loading some 115gr JHPs with 5.4 grains of 231.  I'll be shooting these
tomorrow, and will let you all know how it goes.

As far as 147gr bullets go, they said 4.1 grains of 231 will get you 932 fps,
and 6.5 grains of Blue Dot will get you 1010 fps.  This was about all the
info I got out of them, which pointed me in the right direction...

So, hope this helps some of you out...I'll also be trying some 147gr bullets
once I free up this brass, and see if I can't get a good 1000 fps from them.
-- 
DVC,
  Paul

Paul Yoshimune
pauly@netcom.com