HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mckinzie@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Mark McKinzie)
Subject: Re: Wisconsin
Organization: The Cheesehead Academy
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 12:36:07 GMT

dmurphy@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Dennis J. Murphy) writes:

>In <00961583.35BA4FA0@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU> mchenry@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU) writes:
>> 
>>I have some questions for Wisconsin fans now that the Badgers seem
>>to be on the rise again.

>>Do they ever fill their 77,000 seat stadium?
>     Apparently not anymore. When I went to UW in the '70s, Camp Randall was
>     routinely packed to the gills. Since the administration cracked down
>     on bringing alcohol into the stadium in the mid '80s, attendance has
>     gone seriously downhill. The fact that the team sucked didn't help,
>     either. Personally, I'm surprised that attendance hasn't jumped back up
>     that much in light of the fact that Alvarez seems to be doing an
>     excellent job of bringing a competitive team to Madison. 

According to last night's local news, aver 70,000 tickets have been sold 
for the UW-OSU game.  They're expecting to sell around 75,000 by Saturday.
ESPN will be televising a wild one!


>>BTW--I think that the Badgers have one of the better nicknames in
>>college ball. A Badger is one of the meanest animals there is.

BTW--The name "badger" is not actually a reference to the animal.  Has
something to do with mining, I believe.  Although that damn Bucky thingy
is used rather prominently as a pseudo-logo for UW.
 
-- 
Mark McKinzie          |    Listen, if they're going to buy lunch boxes,
mckinzie@math.wisc.edu | they might as well buy David Cassidy lunch boxes.
UW Dept. of Mathematics|
Madison, WI 53706      |                  -David Cassidy-
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From: john@makesys.com (John Turman)
Subject: Re: Canes/FSU
Followup-To: ohmann@sabaad.larc.nasa.gov (Daring Dale Douglas)
Keywords: Smilies
Organization: Make Systems, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 23:56:19 GMT

In article: <BvE89t.B7H@news.larc.nasa.gov>,ohmann@sabaad.larc.nasa.gov (Daring Dale Douglas)
writes:

>Yo Johnny,
>   I think you forgot the smiley here.

>DDD

I guess I should have put a smiley or two there but I truly believed
the Canes could whip up on FSU and not look past them to PSU. I guess
I was wrong they only won 19-16, so that must mean that they were
looking past FSU to JoePa U. All I can say is lookout PSU the Canes
are coming after you. Lick your chops all you like, you'll be licking
wounds and wounded egos after next weekend.

On another note, how about that awesome Holier than thou U team huh?
Gosh they were just great against a lucky as hell Stanford Cardinal
team that had no business being on the same fisld with them, right?
Hah, I don't think so. ND showed the whole country that they can
beat the Purdue's and the Northwestern's but when faced with the
class of the Pac Ten they can't do jackshit. I tried to post earlier
after the Michigan TIE that I thought Lou Holtz was a chickenshit coach
now it appears that he also is incompetent. He got completely
outclassed, and out coached. I'm jumping for joy. Woof Woof!

John "the obnoxious one" T.
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..John "Dolphinatic" Turman...
From: valdis@spica.usc.edu (Valdis Kalejs)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: TROJAN NEWS VOL.10
Date: 6 Oct 1992 09:34:19 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: spica.usc.edu



In article <1992Oct6.065435.24926@u.washington.edu> baze@carson.u.washington.edu (Behzad Khamneian) writes:
>
>
>>WASHINGTON 14 USC 0: Kralik 18 yard pass from Hobart. 68 yard drive, 8 plays
>>                     after Hoffmann recovered Conway's fumble. Key gains:
>>                     Bryant 9,8 yd runs,Bryant,17,Bruner 9 yd passes from 
>>                     Hobart. PAT: Hanson
>                      ^^^^^^
>  Valdis,
>  Thanx for a good posting, the statistics, and not mixing up Kaufman with
>  McCallum. :)  However, you still need to work on one more thing...Billy
>  Joe HOBERT!!  =)

Let me try again...
Baze,
Sorry, my appologizies! I took the name right out of the LA Times. I guess I
better cancel my subscription :)


>GO HUSKIES!!  *be careful against go-see-Cal*
>
>-Baze


Well, since we are on the subject of the Huskies, I read that Lincoln Kennedy
(spelling correct? :)) was being reprimanded due to knocking the officiating
of last Saturday's game. True,or is the LA Times at it again?

Fight On, THE REST WE PLAY,WILL HAVE TO PAY!

Valdis






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From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Re: NU-Purdue result/Big Ten
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:34:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.041844.21075@news.acns.nwu.edu> fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric West) writes:
>Brian E. Saunders writes:
>>
>>I wish they would woof a little bit more over this one.
>
>Not likely.  Considering that there are only about 8000 undergraduates at
>Northwestern (less than a third of ninth-place Iowa), and only about 1000 of
>them care about football, and only about 250 of those people care about Wildcat
>football, and only about 50 of them even have electronic mail accounts, and
>probably only about 3 or 4 of THEM even subscribe to this newsgroup, and
>only one of them (me) is obnoxious enough to woof over a 1-3 record
>(although the three losses all came to Top 25 teams), I doubt we'll see
>much.  Besides, we don't want to "jinx" the team!  :)

	I say let the NU fans woof.  Hell, they kicked Purdue's ass.
	It was no fluke from my "listening" of the game...

>
>Seriously, though, I can't be the only one scared about what happened
>Saturday: four upsets!  (Five, if you believe some people in Iowa City... :)
>Was it just "Big Fluke" day?  Is the Big 10 really that fallible?  Will we
>ever again have a second-place team with a 7-1 conference record?  Will we
>ever again have a FIRST place team with a 7-1 conference record?  Yes, I
>know, some Ann Arbor-ites would beg to differ, but the season's still
>young, and tying Notre Dame looks less and less like a spectacular feat...
>
>What's going on?

	I think the Big Ten, other than Michigan, is as bad as it has
	ever been right now.  Who knows why?  I really don't ever
	remember it being this bad.  Back in the late 60s through the
	70s we had the infamous "Big 2/Little 8" thing going, but some
	of the Little 8 were always fairly tough, especially defensively.
	Offensively, there wasn't much imagination, but the teams were
	sound.  Now, the teams look sloppy, and wouldn't be able to
	stop Navy...

-- 
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| Randy Peppler               |
| Illinois State Water Survey |
| peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu    |
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Subject: Re: Cal 42, Oregon St. 0
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 05:31:04 GMT

mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>
>All true, but White's running a real uphill battle for the Heisman.
>His main obstacle is not Marshall Faulk, but the Cal coaches, who
>have made it plain that they don't want a one-man show on offense.
>White is being used as one of several very good backs on the team.
>Toss in the potent passing attack, and it's not easy for White to
>stand out on the Bears.
>
>It's kind of a shame, because I'm convinced that were he to get 25-30
>carries every game, he'd have 1500-1800 yards on the season, and would
>have an excellent chance for the award, the East Coast Media Bias [tm]

Then how do you explain the 39 carries he had versus Kansas?

****************************************************************************
Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Hey Matt!  The diffusion pump is full of
University of Washington      *   water again!
Seattle, WA 98195             *
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From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Arizona beats UCLA
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:05:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <5831@news.duke.edu>, ds4@north3.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS) writes:
> In article <1992Oct5.232157.5714@cs.ucla.edu>, reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
> |> Speaking as a UCLA fan, I didn't notice any significant amount of cheap
> |> shots or dirty play by Arizona.  It seemed to me that they just played
> 
> I am not sure how Arizona played against UCLA, but there were reports about an
> Arizona player that were going for the knees of Miami players.  They might of

OH really? So *you* haven't seen anything to back this up right? No film
footage say or sperhaps the live telecast? No offense but you're talking out
your ass. A Miami player is out for the season and his teammates
decided that it was intentional. Boo hoo - give em some cheese with their
whine... the injuries in the UCLA game were a stinkin little broken leg
and a handfull of broken ribs - not even enough to fill a half order at
Tony Roma's for God's sake.... the Cats have given up 38 yards on the 
ground in two weeks against Miami and UCLA - they didn't do that on
cheap shots...


			gln
From: lillie@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Christopher Lillie)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: The Rotten Rooster, 20 worst
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:03:02 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Oct6.080345.25269@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> tshannon@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Timothy J. Shannon) writes:
>
>	The following is a list of the worst 20 college football teams
>as seen in Penthouse's Oct. issue.
>	1. Minnesota
>	6. Northwetern

Wow,
	Somebody better tell Purdue and Illinois.
-- 
Christopher Lillie				*******************************
Purdue University				*	GO BOILERS !!!	      *
Civil Engineering				*******************************
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From: retrac@vesuvius.cs.rice.edu (John Carter)
Subject: Re: Best marching band
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:25:49 GMT

In article <Bv9oBr.163@rice.edu> tomscud@ruf.rice.edu (Thomas Reid Scudder) writes:
>
>BTW -- the Stanford band may have gotten booed by a whole crowd, but have they
>ever managed to be the targets of a riot?  Then again, antagonizing an Aggie
>crowd on a day when the Aggies lose is a bad idea.  (Of course, the Aggie riot
>is also ancient history... the MOB hasn't done anything nearly as interesting
>in ages...)

This is sadly very true.  The MOB has gotten really boring, and is hardly
worth watching any more (IMHO).  Their music has never been particularly
interesting in and of itself, so when the skits started getting boring, I
started losing interest really quickly.  When I first saw them back in 1982,
they were still willing and able to toss around cold-blooded zingers with
impunity, but they've been getting increasingly bland over time.  I seem to
remember that at some point during my sophomore year (1983-84), while the
team was in the midst of a series of 0-fer years (*), they managed to offend
a major donor to the point where he refused to give Rice a large planned
gift.  I think it was the "UT, the Ultra-Terrestrial" skit involving Texas
sorority prostitutes ("Best Little Whorehouse in Texas") that did it.  At
that point, the administration required the MOB to submit their scripts to
some bureaucrat for approval to avoid "future embarrassments".  Needless to
say, there went all the fun.  I can remember when students showed up near
the end of the 2nd quarter to watch the MOB's halftime show and then left by
the second half kickoff.  I've actually seen the Rice student section BOO
the MOB once or twice in recent years for boring skits!  I'm not sure if
they still live with that restriction, but it's too bad.  I wonder if I
could get rich enough to tell the Rice president that the band is so bland
that Rice won't get any of my money until they offend the Aggies enough to
cause a riot.  A goal for my life!

(*) I believe I read the other day that Rice lost 25+ straight SWC games
from 1982-1985, and that by winning on Saturday, SMU managed to narrowly
avoid surpassing the SWC record for longest losing streak (i.e. most
pathetic football program).

-- 
John Carter  -*-  Rice University Computer Systems Lab  -*-  retrac@rice.edu

Thesis hacking Owl, soon to be Ute.  Move over Salt Lake, here he comes!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tannerg@milton.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Subject: Re: Stanford banned again
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:01:38 GMT

wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:
>I am certainly amused about the irony of the Stanfurd band wanting to
>avoid cultivating a fascist image, considering that Stanfurd epitomizes
>elitism and the values of Social Darwinism of which I am sure
>Leland Stanford was an advocate of.  
>
>William F. Tell
>UC Berkeley

William, I want to respond to this, but I am currently backlogged with other
reponses which I have yet to send.  I will need to know whether you are Native
American, Caucasian, African-American, Asian, or Other, so that I may place
you in the proper ethnic waiting list for my forthcoming replies to posts in
r.s.f.c.


GT

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: Marc.A.Echeveste.1@nd.edu (Marc Echeveste)
Subject: Re: FREE NOTRE DAME TICKETS AVAILABLE!!!!
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: University Of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:44:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.003220.8050@Princeton.EDU>, jay@puppsr.Princeton.EDU
(Jay Shrauner) wrote:

> 
> Actual score:  Stanford 33, ND 16.  Don't feel too bad, the nation's #1
> offence met the nations #2 defence, and we discovered which was better.
> Just goes to show how little those rankings mean this early in the season,
> although I think Stanford reaffirmed their defensive ranking.   ND, on
> the other hand, has a few things to think about...like laterals on the
> 5 yard line!
> 
> Jay Shrauner
> Go Cardinal!!

Well, I was at the game, so unfortunately, I know the score all too well. 
Stanford played a great game, but I have to say that the only team that
beat Notre Dame was itself.  It executed poorly, and the much questioned
defense, which played very well, was simply on the field too long.  Our
"#1" offense didn't play like #1... It really wasn't Stanford's defense. 
Mirer had recievers open, he had time, but couldn't deliver the ball. 
Basically, it was the Tennessee nightmare all over again... 

Marc Echeveste
University of Notre Dame
From: worth@acuson.com (Douglas Worth)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Attn: CAL WEENIES!!!
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:59:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: acuson.1992Sep30.155906.22486
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California

s243ap@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Dean Roberts) writes:

>The true lyrics to the U$C fight song are:

>That, is the only song you know
>It's boring and it's slow
>We really wish you'd go

>This was invented by our mic-man, Ken Montgomery, and was first sung

Actually I believe that the song was first sung by Joe Starke (sp?) the KGO
radio announcer the year before. Mic-Man then used it last year.  One
warning to the UW fans. Do not fall into the trap of singing the song evey
time that the U$C band plays it. It will get stuck in your head and you will
get as tired of singing it as hearing it.

>at the Cal U$C game last year, in which the glorious Golden Bears
>thrashed the condoms 52-30.  


>Go Bears!!
>  

Go 								Bears
Go								Bears
Go								Bears
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From: ldr@lightnin.Columbia.NCR.COM (Dale Robbins)
Subject: Re: Miami, Florida
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 19:35:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.172040.20201@zip.eecs.umich.edu> rjones@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Randolph M. Jones) writes:
>In article <5653@news.duke.edu> ds4@soc5.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS) writes:
>>Well I guess we will never know about Washington since they do not play anyone of
>>note.
>
>...except for 8 teams from the strongest conference in the country.

Oh!!!  Which SEC team are they playing this year?

ldr


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: ND-Purdue (saw the game at ND)
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 30 Sep 92 09:20:19 CDT

In article <1992Sep30.042404.12068@news.acns.nwu.edu> fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric West) writes:
>
>Hmmmm...
>
>Sept. 5  Notre Dame 42, Northwestern 7
>Sept. 26 Notre Dame 48, Purdue 0
>
>Does this mean that Northwestern is 13 points better than Purdue? :) :) :)
>
>We'll find out Saturday...

Absolutely not.  I would say more like 35 points better than Purdue.

Prediction:

			Northwestern  49
			Purdue        14

-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: swanson@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Bob Swanson)
Subject: Re: Miami routs Arizona
Organization: Florida State University "Realm of Possibility" Department 
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 00:37:07 GMT

john@makesys.com (John Turman) writes:
>
>As for the Arizona game, big deal. We won, we didn't play for the tie.
>

Ok, I give up.  Explain how DO you play for a tie when down by 5 points?

March down the field, take the field goal, and then pray for a safety?

>I truly feel that the Canes will beat the snot out of FSU. 

History shows that this series is usually not a "snot beater".  Ok, so yeah,
the score 31-0 DOES come to mind, but there are many more nail-biter games 
between FSU and UM than blowouts.

17-14.  FSU.  Includes a missed field goal.
-- 
Bob Swanson			    Give me a lever long enough, and a place
swanson@loligo.cc.fsu.edu	    to stand, and I will break my lever.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: chyang@engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: FSU v. Miami
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 23:22:40 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Sep30.230752.4454@beaver.cs.washington.edu> rcsaito@cs.washington.edu (Richard Saito) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.005951.1659@cs.sfu.ca> alspach@cs.sfu.ca (Brian Alspach) writes:
>
>>   There are three things to keep in mind. First, whoever wins the upcoming
>>game between #2 and #3 will gain first place votes. Second, this past week's
>>poll proved Washington could fall even without losing, or playing for that 
>>matter. Third, Washington does not play UCLA this year in PAC 10 competition,
>>and if UCLA went undefeated in the PAC 10 they would earn the Rose Bowl.
>>Washington would then go to the Fiesta, setting up an unlikely but intriguing
>>matchup with perhaps the winner of the FSU-Miami game should the victor 
>>continue to win.
>>   For FSU and Miami fans who have suddenly become UCLA fans, here's the 
>>Bruin's remaining schedule: at Arizona Oct. 3, Stanford Oct. 10, at Washington
>>St. Oct. 17, ASU Oct. 24, at Cal Oct. 31, Oregon St. Nov. 7, at Oregon Nov.14,
>>and USC Nov. 21.
>>   Washington faces USC Oct. 3 at home, Cal on Oct. 10, at Oregon Oct. 17, 
>>Pacific Oct. 24, Stanford Oct. 31, at Arizona Nov. 7, Oregon St. Nov. 14, and
>>at Washington St. Nov. 21.
>>   Interesting, isn't it, how Arizona has, and could continue to, play into
>>the outcome of FSU's season if the Seminoles continue to win? College football
>>at this level truly takes on a national perspective.
>>
>>---
>>
>>It most certainly does...think about it. UCLA doesnt seem to be in any real
>>danger of losing the rest of the way. Who knows, maybe we will get a real NC
>>this year after all!
>>
>
>I believe you forgot one thing.  If UCLA does go undefeated, won't they have
>a claim to the MNC as well?
>
	That depends on who is number one at the time.  If UCLA goes
undefeated and the team that is ranked #1 at the time say....  Washington
also wins (fingers crossed), then there is no reason why washington
would lose their #1 status.  Sure it would be debated for a long time, but
that is the way it goes.  BTW, Michigan should beat UCLA in the Rose Bowl.
Looks like Elvis is looking at his playing time decreasing.  This kid
Toad Collins is very good quarterback.  I just don't see UCLA with this
kind of talent.  Washington can though.  (Woof!)

-CH Yang
>

-- 
>-Richard


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jcho@nmsu.EDU (CHO)
Subject: Re: Bobby.Bowden.sucks.sucks.sucks
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
	<1992Oct4.190737.25340@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:12:44 GMT


Hey Kevin, why so hard on Bowden?  What about the idiot Sophomore
who caused the safety?  And, it was in the Orange Bowl and Miami
(you have to admit was totally on fire) was just trashing our guys
in the last 4 minutes.  Personally, I think Bowden pumped as much 
effort into this game he possibly could...the  team just wasn't
experienced enough (except maybe Mowrey).  Next year... (I know
its a damn clique now) will be the time to get critical... 

						JCHO@nmsu.edu
From: sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Purdue-Notre Dame prediction
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:50:26 GMT
	<Kevin.T.Buttler.1-270992044651@oucfax.cc.nd.edu>
	<BvCr8L.Az@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
	<1992Sep29.135326.27353@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

}} In article <1992Sep29.135326.27353@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
}} 
}} I think that Mr. Buttler is actually doing a covert operation for the
}} Goober School of the Clueless.  This is making more and more sense to me,
}} as he is insulting Purdue and the Boilerweenies badly, and is making Notre
}} Dame look stupid at the same time.  It looks like Chapin will have to have
}} the Boilerweenies make a countermove...

Leave it to a competitor to stumble near the truth.  Obviously,
Buttler is a plant, but not by the GSC or IGK.  He's an example of our
new "Stealth Weenie."  Has anyone else made ND look as bad?

I guess none of you have ever been performing magicians.  It's
elementary misdirection: he attacks Purdue, thereby drawing suspicion
away from BWI.  Way to go, Agent Buttler.  We've got the gullible
fools on the run!

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
                The effect of his affected accent affected her,
                   and effected a change in her affections.

             If I don't want it in my back yard, I don't want it.