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From: 12mwingfield@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: Spider-man??
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:44:30 GMT

Say, guys, can anyone out there update me on Spider-man's parents??  

Thanks..


Wingnuts

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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: Aussie Super Heros
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:16:19 GMT

Betty whatshername from the New Guardians, the one that merged with the Earth.
     Dave Van Domelen, thinks Gateway is really the original Talisman after 
some majorly traumatic experience
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From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: In what issue does the Superman "death" start.
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:39:23 GMT

howard@monitor.com  writes:
> Yes, I must admit that DC will actually get me to buy Superman now because  
> he is being killed off.  Since I am doing this most for collection  
> purposes I am interested in knowing when his "death" actually starts so I  
> can get the whole cycle.
> 
> thanks!

Comics Buyer's Guide  September 18, 1992  p. 26 (and cover)
"Superman dies saving Metropolis"

	Superman "dies" in Superman #75.  There are two storylines:
"Doomsday" and "Funeral for a Friend".

Doomsday:
Superman: The Man of Steel #18
Justice League America #69
Superman #74
Adventures of Superman #497
Action Comics #684
Superman: The Man of Steel #19
Superman #75

Funeral for a Friend:
Justice League America #70
Adventures of Superman #498
Action Comics #685
Superman: The Man of Steel #20
Superman #76
Adventures of Superman #499
Action Comics #686
Superman: The Man of Steel #21
Superman #77

	The direct market edition will be polybagged with a poster and arm-
band.  The newstand edition will not be bagged, and have a different cover.

Both editions of Superman #75 ship November 17 in  DC's Standard Format.
The Collector's Edition retails for $2.50.  The Newsstand Edition retails 
for $1.25

A new Superman T-Shirt, designed for this event, will ship November 10 and
retails for $14.95.0

Any guesses as how Superman comes back?  I favor the old "hibernation while 
the body heals itself" trick, with a weakened Superman slowly regaining his
powers.  

It's a good thing Lois can cover for him while he's dead.  That is, if she
doesn't tell the whole world who Superman really is.  I don't think she will,
since Ma and Pa Kent would be adversely affected by the revelation.  
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From: friedman@adena.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark "Crimson" Friedman)
Subject: Re: r.a.comics to be rmgrouped Sept. 30
Organization: NAIVE - New And Improved Virtual Environment
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 04:13:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.024921.4937@math.ucla.edu> sherman@oak.math.ucla.edu (The Ahkond of Swat) writes:
>Hmm, that can't really be the real Spellchecker; he'd object to the
>misspelling of Grammar Lad's name.  Not that I'm even alive anymore
>or anything... 
>
>the late Spelling Boy, posting from deep within the digestive systems
>of his lupine killers, hoping that Spellchecker can live up to the job

	Vapid Veterinarian drawled, "Well, shoot, I think this wild
dog's got a case of Usenet Ingestion!"  The Ethern*t cable coming from
the deceased dog's [CENSORED] tipped him off initially.  Then when he
heard mentions of Grammer Lad [YES!  Grammer Lad [sic, I should said]
*is* a documented character! -- Editors] through his stethoscope his
diagnosis was confirmed.

	"Autopsy time", Vapid Vet sliced open the dog with his genuine
stainless plastic scalpel.  "Great horney-toads!  There's a brain in
here!"  He removed the plot-point-preserved brain from the dog's
stomach and placed in in a jar of formaldehyde...

	|	|	|	|	|	|	|	|

				COMING SOON:

	T H E Y  S A V E D  S P E L L I N G  B O Y ' S  B R A I N ! ! !

			   (a LNH/LNV production)

-- 
Mark "Klone Crimson" Friedman is friedman@cis.ohio-state.edu .................
"There is nothing former   "Beat poets,    "If you put a hungry ferret in your
 about King Crimson."       not children."  trousers, he'll run around..."
 - Robert Fripp, 5/11/90    - anonymous     - Nigel Tufnel (Spinal Tap)
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From: dusek@rtsg.mot.com (James Dusek)
Subject: Re: Superman dead?!!!!!!
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:26:01 GMT

ted4646@zeus.tamu.edu (kid eternity) writes:
>From what I've heard, Superman is supposed to die, yet Clark Kent won't.
>I guess they'll do this similar to Superman II.  

	Nope, Clarks missing too. Wounder how many will figure that
CK=superman

>But if they actually do kill off Superman, I hope that Superman stays dead.
>And is NOT reincarnated in five or so years (ala Supergirl, Jean Grey, et al)

	Supergirl is still dead. The currant supergirl is matrix, who
can assume anybody's form. Even superman.

James
From: ted4646@zeus.tamu.edu (kid eternity)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Death of Superman
Date: 15 Sep 1992 22:36:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <dusek.716564805@shale>, dusek@rtsg.mot.com (James Dusek) writes...
> 
>>In article <uplink.716190531@cwis> uplink@cwis.unomaha.edu (John M. Scheibeler) writes:
>>	I see a Dante's Inferno type deal with 6+ issues of Superman wandering
>>thru the underworld looking for Lois and a way out.
>>IMHO,
>>	Raythrax
> 
>	No, no, no. Superman causes soooo much troble in hell they kick him
>out. It worked for Lobo!
> 

Or he could find that door that Ambush Bug found in Son of Ambush Bug #3 and 
walk out into downtown Metropolis.  (how's that for recall, fanboy?)

-thomas

Stupid things to say in the Star Wars Universe:

#12:   "I'll apologize personally to Lord Vader."
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From: lmlc@brahms.udel.edu (Carolyn M Chandler)
Subject: Looking for cbk@athena.mit.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:35:32 GMT


Sorry to have to post this but i am looking for someone with an address like 
cbk@athena.mit.edu this may be very wrong but its all my bad memory can dreg 
up...

I can further identfy him by ...

He sent me 70$ i sent him some comics he didnt like them so he asked me
to send the money back i did so like 3 weeks ago, but i have never recived 
the comics and i want them very badly now.....so please contact me...

also to Jim C. please try to find his address as i cant seem 
to find him here in the last 100 posts or so...
thanks all
-morgan
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From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Subject: Re: Aussie Super Heros
Organization: Victoria University of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 09:30:54 GMT

bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:

>In article <199209150216.AA09293@mihi.une.edu.au> jbell@mihi.une.edu.au (Master of Puppets) writes:
>>does anyone know of any Australian Superheros?
>>I cant find even ONE....

Isn't Pyro from freedom force Australian? I know he's 
not really a superhero though. There is an Australian
superhero comic called Southern Squadron but the art
in it looked pretty dodgy!

Jed
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From: mkelly@brahms.udel.edu (Michael Joseph Kelly)
Subject: Re: Infinity Wars & Related Stuff
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:34:26 GMT

In article <BtMK66.KrH@acsu.buffalo.edu> v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jon J Klaybor) writes:
>
>	Hey everyone!  (Everyone point at newbie)
>
>	Just thought I'd try and get a sub-conversation started here 
>about the Infinity Wars series....thought it to be _very_ 
>interesting, and was wondering if anyone is as hooked on it as I
>am!!
>	I usually read 'down-to-earth' stuff like the X-titles, but
>the inter-cosmic scale on which this series is presented in just
>incredible!!  A great follow-up to the 'Infinity Gauntlet' series,
>IMO.
>	Well, this is a short post and I will probably receive a short
>reply....but hey!  At least I posted!  (|
>
>BTW...have a nice day!
>
>Jonny B.

  Its an interesting story and a lot clearer now that we know the Magus' intentions were to the the infinity gauntlet all along.  By the way, this is not the last of the infinity series by any means.  I read somewhere that there will be another storyu called the infinity crusade. Anyone heard about this?


                                                                _Mike
From: djdaneh@pbhyc.PacBell.COM (Dan'l DanehyOakes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: NEW SQUIDDIES (R.A.C. AWARDS) ADMINIST
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:15:09 GMT
Reply-To: djdaneh@PacBell.COM (Dan'l DanehyOakes)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA

In article <715609198.1@fquest.FidoNet> Omega.Man@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Omega Man) writes:
>My question: If I have been so wrong in my flaming of you over the years,
>what justification do you give for the obvious snide remarks that you've
>presented above? 

Not that I have any business jumping into this, but. . .

The flamefest has gone on long enough, and nastily enough, that it's got its own
momentum now.  Tom (and, one presumes, Chuq, though I don't mention you to him 
when we correspond -- there's no particular reason to) have given and received
enough venom from and to you that I suspect that a snide or worse remark will
automatically pass their lips/fingers any time your cognomen is cognomentioned,
barring conscious suppression thereof.

If you haven't been convinced yet that they were not behind the Omega.Non.Grata
business, I suppose you never will, though I will say in public that I *know*
it wasn't them (or me either) for reasons that I *won't* say, in public or
private.  If that indeed is the basis for your unmitigated hostility toward the
both of 'em all these years -- and not merely a desire to have someone to spew
all over you -- then I publicly challenge you:

This war will not end unless someone deliberately extends the paw of peace to 
*end* it.  I challenge you to show you're, if not the better man, at least a
better man than either Tom or Chuq will ever give you credit for, by issuing a
blanket apology, offering to bury the baseball bat (figuratively speaking; I
gather the silly thing has some sentimental value for reasons having nothing to
do with the net), etc., etc.  I further challenge you to do this publicly:  for
if Tom is the nasty character you paint him as, he'll show himself up once and
for all; if he isn't, and if he accepts your offer, why then maybe you was 
wrong.  

In either case you win:  as the one that humbled himself to end the pointless
bickering, or as the injured party if Tom refuses in some rude manner.

Note:  I have not consulted with Tom about this.  He may be pissed off at me
for offering you this golden opportunity.  C'est la vie, n'est-ce pas?

		The Pavlov dog and the Schroedinger cat
		Side by side in my forebrain sat
		With Shakespeare's monkeys crowding in behind. . .
		. . . it's all in your mind.
			-- Visual Purple

Dan'l Danehy-Oakes, Net.Roach
My opinions do NOT represent Pacific Bell,
Professional Development, or anyone else.
But I'm willing to share.
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From: sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Sanjiv Sarwate)
Subject: Re: Superman Cancelled? (was Re: Superman dead?!!)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 01:17:31 GMT

tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Deus Imperator) writes:


>For those of you too fearful to wait:
>SPOILERS!
>
>Okay, a new villain by the name of Doomsday will come along to threaten 
>Life-as-we-know-it.  Superman will get into the standard punchmeup, but
>with one important difference.  Doomsday is stronger, faster, and more durable
>than the Big Blue Weenie, so Supes, rather than triumphing over force of will,
>will get BEATEN TO DEATH on panel.  No "the explosion carried me to safety"
>or "I was smashed to smithereens, but my force of will helped me to 
>reconstitute."  Neither will there be a convenient clone.  Superman will 
>be dead, a bleeding, bloated corpse in a box.
>	This, of course, creates a whole new dilemma.  If Doomsday can take out
>supes, who can take out Doomsday?  He was in a "containment unit," when first
>seen, and busted his way out of that.  SOMEONE is that powerful, but who?
>I have been told that in a fight with the Justice League, someone big is 
>killed by DDay, and Blue beetle is put into a coma, with several others being
>REEEEAAALLLYYYY hurt.

First off, it is in no way clear that Superman is the most powerful hero
in the DC line.  We had this discussion back during Armageddon 2001, with
the idea being trying to figure out which of the heroes had enough raw
or potential power to take down Superman, as sort of a benchmark for taking
down the others.  The list as I recall included figures such as Batman
(with the K-ring, but he could be clever and come up with a way to kill  
someone very powerful), Captain Atom (the man who should have been 
Monarch, and who has been remarkably invisible since his return to this
continuity), Starman (who is now, apparently, temporarily deceased), 
-- 
Sanjiv Sarwate			| "I git weary and sick of tryin'
sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu	|  I'm tired of livin' and scared of dyin'
SANJIV@UIUCVMD.BITNET		|  But Ol'Man River,
                      		|  He just keeps rolling along..."
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From: Mark Byrne <M.Byrne@compserv.utas.edu.au>
Subject: Comics for Sale
X-Xxdate: Mon, 7 Sep 92 23:12:05 GMT
Organization: University of Tasmania - Launceston
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 07:10:26 GMT

I have a number of comics avaliable for sale to the best offer

All Marvel


X-factor  series 1 #1-4  reasonable condition
West Coast Avengers  series 1  #1-34 all in good condition
Silver Surfer series 2 #1
Silver Surfer series 3 #1-10
Groo series 2  #1-3  excellent condition
Spiderman vs Wolverine #1


Email all offers to M.Byrne@compserv.utas.edu.au
last offers 30th September 1992


Cheers

Mark Byrne
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From: jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey)
Subject: FAQ for the r.a.c. hierarchy?/Basic info desired
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 03:02:46 GMT


	Hi there,

	I picked up a copy of _The Sandman: Nocturnes and Preludes_ the other
day.  I had forgotten just how good comics were these days.  (I haven't really
read any for the past two years.)

	I was so excited that I went out a couple of other comics/graphic
novels and really had a great time reading them.  I also decided to start
reading the rec.arts.comics newsgroups.  

	So, my first question is:  is there a FAQ for the hierarchy?  If
so, could someone please send it to me.  

	Second question:  if there is no faq, could someone explain to me
just what the difference is between rec.arts.comics and rec.arts.comics.misc?
(Marketplace and xbooks seem obvious enough?)  I've read through a variety
of postings and I don't really see a clear distinction.  Is there one?

	Your answers appreciated, 

	--  Jim C. <jchokey@leland.stanford.edu>
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: X-MEN on FOX??
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:34:32 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Sep15.111446.3879@spcvxb.spc.edu> 4mckenzie_m@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>    FOX is going to put on the X-Men, but it won't be till October.  I don't 
>know what day, but it will be a thirteen episode series.  All the major 
>characters and villians will be there--except for Colossus (I reealllly wanna 
>know why he was left out!). It looks like a good series; ask around at a comic 
>shop for more info.

I've seen a partial list of episodes (my brother got it, off here I think),
which has Colossus in one of the later episodes (maybe the seventh or so?)
If anyone else knows anything more, let us all know.

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: The return of the D'bari (was Re: Marvel's untouchable corpses...)
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:20:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.20215
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>+>It's true.  From what I've heard John Byrne had a planet full of Asparagus
>+>People in a recent issue of SHE-HULK.
>
>	Not only that, but one of the surviving Asperigus people was the 
>one featured in Avengers #4 complete with gun which turns people to stone.

A planet full of them, certainly, but I'll bet a good-sized f-berry that
the so-called D'Bari are actually renegade Skrulls, or some sort of
imposters (c.f. Razorback's suddenly interrupted statement in the force
prison).


-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - CTHULHU in '92! Why vote for LESSER evils?
For Kate is a jealous God, and requires sacrifice./What was your question?--K
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
dhenry@plains.nodak.edu * ud137927@ndsuvm1.bitnet * ud137927@vm1.nodak.edu
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From: dusek@rtsg.mot.com (James Dusek)
Subject: Re: Superman's Death
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:20:44 GMT

jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer) writes:
>I think that the only superhero who has stayed dead is Brother Voodoo, 
>and even he shows up from time to time in Fred Hembeck's column in Marvel

	Supergirl is dead, Jason Todd, Deathstrokes two sons, Raven, and more.
(notice they are all DC. :)

James Dusek
From: friedman@adena.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark "Crimson" Friedman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: LNH/LNV - A Villain Born! (was: LNH/LNV/BoEnV a hero born?)
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:17:55 GMT
Organization: NAIVE - New And Improved Virtual Environment

In article <1992Sep8.210522.8521@math.ucla.edu> sherman@oak.math.ucla.edu (The Ahkond of Swat) writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.041429.58704@cc.usu.edu> sl859@cc.usu.edu writes:
>>	Ultimate Ninja scoffed at the Spelling Boy's little threat.  Perhap's
>Perhaps.

				But wait!

In an incident of "typo-turned-hero" that rivals even that of SUICIDE
SQUID *himself*, a new force comes into being:

			     PROFESSOR PERHAP!

Indeed, Prof. Peter "Perhap" Paulenmerry hears his call to power!  An
average Linguistics professor at Cowtown University, he scans the Net
for ambiguous phrases, discontinuous sentence fragments, poor
subject/verb agreement, and dangling participles in order to *twist*
them to suit his own purposes!

	"What's this?", the Prof exclaimed, "Spelling Boy *denies* my
very existence!?!?!  Well, I'll show that brat!"  Then, summoning his
power to produce hypothetical situations at will, Professor Perhap
does the deed:

    >>> Perhap's wild dogs *will* rend spelling boy to pieces! <<<

And yes, by the mere supposition of the incident (including the
emphasis on the definite qualifier *will*) it actually happens!  A
pack of wild dogs, at Perhap's command, appears from nowhere to drag
Spelling Boy down!

	Professor Perhap cackled insanely at the desperately flailing
Spelling Boy, whilst in the shadows the as-yet-to-be-mentioned
IRONY-INFLICTOR shared a hearty laugh...

-- 
Mark "Klone Crimson" Friedman is friedman@cis.ohio-state.edu .................
"There is nothing former   "Beat poets,    "If you put a hungry ferret in your
 about King Crimson."       not children."  trousers, he'll run around..."
 - Robert Fripp, 5/11/90    - anonymous     - Nigel Tufnel (Spinal Tap)
Xref: sparky rec.arts.comics:23027 alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy:2932
From: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Re: [rec.arts.comics] Re: Ren & Stimpy
Date: 13 Sep 92 16:59:58 GMT
Reply-To: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr)
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

To the poor beknighted person down under who asked about Ren&Stimpy: 

It might help to download the gif files on wuarchive.wustl.edu that 
feature this pair.  There are 3 that I know of, but the names escape 
me at the moment; one that has a file name starting with cmd is a 
nice illustration of a HAPPY Stimpy.  Just download the current 
00Index file and search for Ren or Stimpy...

--
J. A. Carr                                    |  "The New Frontier of which I  
jac@gw.scri.fsu.edu                           |  speak is not a set of promises
Florida State University  B-186               |  -- it is a set of challenges."
Supercomputer Computations Research Institute |   John F. Kennedy (15 July 60)
From: Omega.Man@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Omega Man)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: THE LAD WHO WRECKED THE LSH
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:42:38 GMT


 > From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
 > Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.

 > Actually, there were two of them, fitting both of the above 
 > descriptions.  The first one was in Adventure #305 (Storm Boy was #301). 
 > My digest reprint calls him Dynamo _Kid_, but the LSH Index gives his name
 > as Dynamo Boy; I have no idea whether the index got it wrong, or whether 
 > the name was changed in the reprint to avoid confusion.

...that wouldn't be the first time that early LSH stories were retconned. As
I recall, Kara's initiation into the Legion was first carried out by the
decendants of the "three super-teens" who initiated Clark when he was younger.
The idea being that since the super-cousins were from different eras, and
would not normally meet under the Weisinger laws, it was more desirable to
do a story around the next generation of a throwaway plot element than to 
confuse readers by using the original generation anyway.

Needless to say, this part of the Weisinger laws were repealed with the
introduction of the mind-wipe gimmick. :-)

...still, the "80-page giant" reprint featuring the entire "Death of Lightning
Lad Saga" *I believe* had Mr. Electro-Belt listed as "Dynamo Boy". Since I've
lost that particular issue a LONG time ago, I'm relying on memory here. Ken,
was your reprint part of the digests? If so, can you double-check to see
whether the schmuck was a boy or a kid?

"You say tomAHto..."

                                                        OM

(*) A side nOTE: Dynamo Boy/Kid's sister had a bit of fame surrounding her
as well. She was a chronal research associate of Circadia Senius, and her 
field of study was alternative music of the 20th century. One day, while 
assisting Rond Vidar in the creation of the Time Cube, she accidentally
activated it, sending her and her sister (who was visiting that day) back
to Southern California in the 70's. There, the two somehow linked up with
legendary guitarist and First Amendment rights activist Frank Zappa, and
the rest was history.

"Why Sherman, surely you've heard the song...'Dynamo Hum', no?"
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