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From: aap@wam.umd.edu (Alberto Adolfo Pinkas)
Subject: Re: Cuban Rights Advocate Beaten and Detaine
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:49:15 GMT

In article <105427@bu.edu> rodin@acs.bu.edu (luis del) writes:
>
(Un monton de cosas).

Un solo comentario: Seria interesante que Luis A. del Valle usara
mejor el sistema de editing. Los mensajes que manda suelen tener parrafos
cortados, palabras que quedan cortadas, y, al final todo es muy confuso. 
 

>
>Forever Black and White,

Forever Azul y Oro.
DALE BOCA, CARAJO

	



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BOCA JUNIORS
CAMPEON DE FUTBOL DE LA REPUBLICA ARGENTINA

DALE CAMPEON, DALE CAMPEON!!!!!!


>Luis A. del Valle 
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From: psilva@dcc.uchile.cl (SILVA OSORIO PABLO WASHINGTON)
Subject: Saludos a todos les desea ....
Originator: psilva@dcc.uchile.cl
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:29:35 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Chile, Depto. de Ciencias de la Computacion

Hola!!!

 Reciban ustedes un abrazo y saludo fraternal desde Chile
 en estas Fiestas Naviden~as, que ojala todos sus buenos 
 deseos se cumplan y que los que son peleadores ....
 no lo sean tanto para esta fecha y proximo an~o nuevo!!
 un saludo a todos los Chilenos patas de perro que andan 
 en el extranjero asi mismo tambien para todas las Chilenas
 que estan por alla!!.

 Y para los demas amigos(as) Latinoamericanos reciban de parte
 mia un saludo tambien fraternal.

 atte psilva (Nos vemos despues de las Vacaciones de Verano)

 ChaoooooooOOOOOOOOOooooo
-- 
atte psilva

psilva@dcc.uchile.cl Estudiante de Ingenieria en Ciencias de la Computacion
                     de la Universidad de Chile.
From: rodin@acs.bu.edu (luis del)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Una preguntita de futbol
Date: 22 Dec 92 04:45:03 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: rodin@acs.bu.edu


>si estoy pasando como un ignorante del futbol disculpen 
>solia estar al dia en mis tiempos por alla por el sur
>pero por aqui lo unico que se es que los "Blue Jays" de Toronto campeonaron 
>en la serie Mundial  de baseball eh!
>
>                     Ricardo Roman
>                     Nova Scotia Canada



PURA SUERTE RICARDO PURA SUERTE :)


feliz navidad,

Luis
From: gilberto@zzz.pe.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Herrera Ruiz GILBERTO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Maoistas y Edelmiristas
Date: 24 Dec 92 06:53:19 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Dept. of Precision Machinery Eng., The University of Tokyo,
	Japan.


In article <002564r.45.725127652@axe.acadiau.ca> 002564r@axe.acadiau.ca (RICARDO FLAVIO ROMAN-CARBAJAL) writes:


   He visto los dos ultimos posters del Movimiento internacional Maoista o algo 
   asi. Creo que tienen todo el derecho de escribir aqui.
   Pero deberiamos tener cuidado puesto que su principal afiliado el PCP  
   (Partido Comunista del Peru) mas conocido como sendero luminoso , que ya 
   debe al Peru mas de 25000 vidas, no es bajo ninguna forma democratico. 
   sendero luminoso cree que ellos son la unica via para la revolucion es decir 
   si alguien esta en desacuerdo es porque es un agente de la CIA.

Esto me suena igual que Edelmiro y familia, si no estas de acuerdo con
sus prejuicios entonces debes de ser rojillo, castrista o algo similar.

ellos cren 
   que la violencia es el unico camino y si es que un sacerdote, una monja, un 
   pastor, un agente de paz, o un lider popular afirma que hay otros medios de 
   lograr el progreso ellos lo asesinan. Esto es lo que vienen haciendo en los 
   ultimos trece a~os.
   Curisamente ellos no solo asesinan gente (sean citalinos o campesinos) que 
   creen en la paz, si no tambien izquierdistas que creen en la revolucion o la 
   violencia pero piensan que sendero equivoco el camino


Piensan igualito al fosforo creen que exportar su ideologia es una
noble cruzada.

Cual es la difierencia entre sendero y familia edelmiro??

Tan solo que juegan en equipos contrarios pero siguen siendo los mismos
enfermos de prejuicios y creencias. No hay terminos intermedios.
Como los bueyes solo ven el mundo en blanco y negro.

					  Ricardo

Gilberto.
From: ch981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Alicea)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Boriken
Date: 30 Dec 1992 03:11:29 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ch981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Alicea)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, wk05038@worldlink.com (Carlos E. Ortiz) says:

>Would anyone here have e-mail information on a newsgroup called "Boriken"? 
>Thanks.  
>Carlos E. Ortiz 
>
Carlos:

	BORIKEN: 

		Sociedad y Cultura de Puerto Rico

	Para "enlistarte" : Envi'a un mensaje a:

		LISTSERV@ENLACE.BITNET

	que diga:

		SUB BORIKEN "Tu Nombre completo, NO tu E-mail address"

	Tu e-mail address es capturada automa'ticamente por el 
LISTSERV. 

	Si tienes ma's preguntas, escri'beme a la direccio'n arriba!

FELIZ An~o Nuevo!!

Tony
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: bbs.pucon@tsoft.net (Ivan Munoz)
Subject: Re: Consulta Alcoholica de Chile
Keywords: Chile
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 02:32:46 GMT

julio@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Julio Gonzalez) writes:

> 
>    Ennio,
> 
>        I have a couple of bottles of Pisco here. I brought
>       them from Chile though as I could not find it in 
>       Philadelphia. The people who have tried it here like
>       it. I don't know why it is not being marketed. 
>        In the case of wines, I am now finishing a bottle
>       of 'Concha y Toro' del tinto.
> 
> 
> Julio
> 
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Julio , U of Penn, Philadelphia 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

 
Me alegro que estes disfrutando tu "Concha y Toro", aca en California le 
estoy dandole a otro Concha y Toro" del blanquito...

Yo tambien tengo que traer mi Pisco de Chile por que no lo he visto por 
ninguna parte en the San Francisco area... 

Feliz An~o Nuevo.......

Ivan

--
Ivan Munoz (bbs.pucon@tsoft.net)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: estrella@cass.ma02.bull.com (Gustavo Estrella)
Subject: Re: Elecciones en Cuba
Organization: Bull World Wide Information Systems Inc.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 13:55:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.164323.11513@cs.mun.ca> lazaro@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Lazaro Nunez) writes:
>
>-La locutora que leia las noticias cada 30 minutos enfatizaba de que votar
>no era una obligacion en Cuba de esta manera: "...no, repito, no son obliga-
>torias". Pero en una ocasion olvido decir el "repito" por lo que quedo
>"no no son obligatorias". Todos sabemos que [no(no x) = x]. Solo hay que
>an~adir que una hora antes del cierre de los comicios el 93 y pico % de aquellos
>cubanos con derecho al voto habia asistido a las urnas. Yo recuerdo que en 
>similares elecciones cuando yo estaba en Cuba los Comites de Defenza de la 
>Revolucion iban de casa en casa recogiendo gente para ir a votar.
>
>-- 
>| Lazaro Nun~ez Figueiral         ||  !Lloran sobre el Mar de Cuba	     |
>| Memorial University of Nfld.    ||  enormes flores bermejas;	             |
>| St. John's, Terranova, Canada.  ||  sobre la isla perdida	   	     |
>| lazaro@garfield.cs.mun.ca       ||  el aire amarillo tiembla! - F.G. Lorca |


Esto me recuerda una esperencia similar.  En 1977, cuendo votando por elecciones similares, my padre y tio no querian votar.  A eso de las 7 de la noche, las jente del Comitee fueron a buscarlo y le esplicaron que tenian que votar.  Ellos decian que no se sentian bien y otras historia, pero las jente del comite no se hiban sin ellos.  Al fin, decidieron votar, pero los dos simplemente no entraron ningunan selecion (dejaron la forma limpia).  Pues, cuando anunciaron los resultados una semana despues, 95% or
 mas fueron for un candidato, x% por el otro.  Lo interesante era que las figuran notaban que solamente una persona abia dejado la tarheta de votar limpia.  Eso, dijo la persona legendo las figuras, demonstraba que el pueblo estaba con la revolucion.

Contandole esta historia a un viejo amigo del barrio que vive en Miami, el nos conto como el siempre votova de la misma manera (con su esposa), y siempre notaba lo mismo.

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Gustavo Estrella
--------------------------------------------------------------------------o
From: cmbr01@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Colombia Newsbriefs 12/9 ed-lp
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:58:27 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <1992Dec21.174318.20030@sbcs.sunysb.edu>, ldasilva@engws9.ic.sunysb.edu (Luis Dasilva Ruiz) writes:
> 
> In article 11459 of soc.culture.latin-america, ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
> writes:
> 
>> [...]
>>important role to protect the rights of its citizens.   I believe that 
>>government should REGULATE service industries (phone, electric...), 
>>transportation (arilines), communications, and, of course, drugs.  The last 
>>economic liberal in your sense of the term was Adam Smith.  Since then, the 
>>state has been enlarging its role for the public good.  Of course, our state 
> 
> You have forgotten people like William Buckey, Jr and Milton Friedman.
> They have proposed full legalization of the drug trade hoping to reduce
> the profits involved in it. They are hardly communists or defenders of
> Fidel Castro. Indeed, they are among the most famous economic liberals
> in the US. Their reasoning is that by cutting down in profits, drug trade
> would actually DOWNSCALE. Other people point out that by collecting taxes
> on the dealers, resources for rehabilitation centers would be obtained.
> Several european countries are looking at this alternative since they
> have found that nothing else seems to work when it comes to combatting
> drugs. Another line of reasoning that I have heard says that during the
> alcohol prohibition of the 30's there was much more consumption of alcohol,
> due to the fact that pushers were out on the streets, just the same way
> drug pushers are out on the streets now.
>                                                                       

[words deleted]

. In my opinion, the best thing the US
> can do right now is to wait for a couple of years to see if  the
> policies being put in place in Europe have the desired effect.
> 
> Luis DaSilva

As a Eurpopean living in Europe I have not heard of any move towards
legalisation of drugs here. Certain countries such as The Netherlands
have relaxed laws to allow personal use and both the UK and The Neths.
have pretty good drug user support systems (needle exchanges etc).

I personally am for making the imposition of taxes upon drug sales and use.
Then people can go uot and work for the money to buy the drugs etc just as
many people do now for to buy alcohol etc.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Adios, J.
From: rodin@acs.bu.edu (luis del)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Cuban Rights Advocate Beaten and Detaine
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:14:02 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: rodin@acs.bu.edu


I just don't know how can people defend Castro's Cuba. You have to be a fool, or a demagogue. I mean really. How can you defend it, when we have millions of Cubans that have fled the Country? Is this making the issue Black and White? Yes, for some issues are, specially ones with regards to Tyranny. The problem with Latin American leftwing intellectuals is that the see the world as Black and Grey:everything that comes out of the USA is BLACK, and all that comes out form Cuba is grey(In reality it is black, 



but with their use of sophitry and rationalization it becomes Grey. 

You take every problem the USA has and take that as the USA itself. Ironically we would agree with you that we have problems; that is our strength. Your weakness is in your apologetic attitude towards Castro, and anything from the Third World. If you people showed as much pride, and zeal correcting and preventing the gross problems you have as you do rationalizing and explaining them, you would be much better off. And less agry at others. 

There is no worse blind man than the one that does not want to see. If you want to be blind to the fall of the Berlin wall, the acceptance of the ex-communist block of DEMOCRATIC CAPITALISM, Castro' human rights abuses, the shortages of food in Cuba, Tienemen Square, the Meskito Indians, the Shining path, and other countless failures of the left wing political idelogy, fine. If you can sincerely tell me that you would rather live in present day's Cuban socio-politacal system over that of the USA's, fine.  



If you can only answer this with calling us Black and Whiter's, simpletons, facist, Right Wingers, and the countless slogans you guys are so adroit at labeling, fine! Someday you'll wake up from your day dreams, and find yourself in a Nightmare. And that my friend is as clear as Day is to Night.

Forever Black and White,

Luis A. del Valle
From: rodin@acs.bu.edu (luis del)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Nombres feos
Keywords: Gilberto
Date: 21 Dec 92 13:42:53 GMT
Followup-To: RE: Latin NAMES, Gilberto? FO
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: rodin@acs.bu.edu



Nobody is using this terminal.....Ghassan
From: rodin@acs.bu.edu (luis del)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Distribution: soc
Followup-To: RE: Latin NAMES
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Subject: Re: Latin Baby NAmes
Keywords: my arrogance




	Gilberto, lighten up. This was joke. I was making fun of my own ego. Only an ass would take one posting and collorated to an other argument. If You are so complicated, well educated, and superior to me, why don't you have some cojones and answer directly to my postings in question. The which was my defence at your attack of my simplistic arguments. You don't even know me, and you have already peged as a simpleton. Your so arrogant, which really is veiled insecurity, that you still continue to insist my si



mplicity, with out proving it. That Gilberto is being a simpleton.
        Gilberto hopefully  you will learn some day that within the guise of a boorish arogant elitist asshole, you will find the soul of an insecure simpleton.

	SO TO THE KIND WOMAN WHO IS HAVING THE BABY, BE WEARY OF CALLIN YOUR CHILD GILBERTO OR FIDEL.

Luis Antonio del Valle
From: dgt@phy.duke.edu (Dinko Eduardo Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Mafalda (para el que escribio en anglo)
Date: 23 Dec 92 13:54:42 GMT
Organization: Duke University Physics Dept.; Durham, N.C.

I congratulate Dr Adeff on his article about Mafalda, Argentina etc.  
Regarding the use of uniforms in schools:  I wholheartedly endorse the
idea.  It eliminates the competition for fancy clothes that is so characteristic
here in the United States.  Uniforms are generally not expensive, and quite
durable.  Permitting the mass production of garments consecuently lowers 
the price (some people argue that this creates an artificial demand and
increase of prices, ignoring that textile markets are controlled by no single
company).  In Chile uniforms have always been in widespread use, and to date
I have not heard of any argument of weight against their continued use.  
I did not read the posted article that critizised the use of school uniforms
in Latin America, but I would suggest to some US American netters (and all
people ignorant about the way of life in Latin American countries) to
please do a little reading on the subject  before thrusting a comment 
that may be insulting to people on this newsgroup, or ask for info 
from the netters themseles (en pedir no hay enga~no).


				Feliz Navidad y prospero A~no Nuevo
				A todos los amigos de la red.

PS:   This article was written in English for the benefit of the
      non-Spanish speakers (or readers) of the net.  Merry Christmas
      to them too.	
-- 
Dinko Gonzalez Trotter
dgt@phy.duke.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Listas/Clubes (varios paises)
From: <WBWQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 28 Dec 1992 00:17:10 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

              LISTAS LATINOAMERICANAS

ARGENTINA:
                 argentina-request@asterix.eng.buffalo.edu
                 argentina@asterix.eng.buffalo.edu
BOLIVIA:
                 readingj@cerf.net
                 (write "Bol.:" in the subject line)
BRASIL:
                 bras-net-request@cs.ucla.edu (non-european users)
                 bras-net-request@uk.ac.man.cs (european users)
                 para mensajes quitar el -request
CENTRAL AMERICA
                 listserv@ubvm.bitnet (request)
                 centam-l@ubvm.bitnet
CHILE
                 listserv@purccvm.bitnet (request)
                 chile-l@purccvm.bitnet
COLOMBIA
                 listserv@andescol.bitnet (request)
                 colext@andescol.bitnet
ECUADOR
                 ecuador@ners6k1.ncsu.edu
IBEROAMERICA
                 nicbbs@bitnic.bitnet
LATIN AMERICA
                 lasnet-request@emx.utexas.edu
                 lasnet@emx.utexas.edu
                           o
                 lasnet@utxvm.bitnet
MEXICO
                 listserv@tecmtyvm.bitnet (request)
                           0
                 listserv@tecmtyvm.mty.itesm.mx (request)
                 mexico-l@tecmtyvm.bitnet
                 (hay otras mas)
PANAMA
                 barreraa@lamar.colostate.edu
                 (request)
                 panama@lamar.colostate.edu (mensajes)
PERU
                 owner-peru@athena.mit.edu (request)
                 peru@athena.mit.edu
PUERTO RICO
                 listserv@enlace.bitnet (request)
                 pr@enlace.bitnet
URUGUAY
                 uruguay-request@db.toronto.edu
                 uruguay-afuera@db.toronto.edu
VENEZUELA
                 venezuela-request@athena.mit.edu
		 venezuela@athena.mit.edu
From: Blythe Systems <nytransfer@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Date: 03 Jan 93 01:05 PST
Subject: IPS:Sendero not linked to embassy
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1473800421:000:2438
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!nytransfer    Jan  3 01:05:00 1993


/* Written 12:13 am  Dec 31, 1992 by newsdesk@igc.apc.org in igc:ips.englibrary */
/* ---------- "PERU: SHINING PATH NOT LINKED TO EM" ---------- */
Copyright Inter Press Service 1992, all rights reserved.  Permission to re-
print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.

Reference: Asia, eastern
Title: PERU: SHINING PATH NOT LINKED TO EMBASSY BOMBINGS, SAYS MINISTER


lima, dec 28 (ips) -- the peruvian interior minister, general
juan briones, believes monday's bomb attacks against the japanese
and chinese embassies in lima were carried out by an unknown
terrorist group and not by members of the shining path.

''an unknown group operating in lima and using terrorist
tactics is probably responsible for the two car-bomb explosions
outside the diplomatic missions,'' said briones, who said the
authorities would soon release an official communique on the
incidents.

briones said the latest car-bomb attacks against embassies
were aimed at damaging peru's image abroad.

the first car-bomb, a truck packed with dynamite, exploded at
14:30 gmt outisde the japanese embassy in a western district of
lima, injuring 20 people and causing extensive damage to the
embassy and adjacent buildings.

according to a japanese embassy spokesman, none of the embassy
staff was hurt.

at 15:00 gmt, another vehicle packed with dynamite exploded
near the chinese embassy, seriously injuring two people and
damaging several buildings.

early on saturday, similar attacks were carried out against
the chinese, austrian and costa rican embassies in lima, using
vehicles loaded with gas cylinders.

meanwhile, in the town of huacho, 150 kilometres north of the
capital, a vehicle loaded with 200 kilos of dynamite exploded
near a bank, injuring 12 people and damaging 15 shops and
offices.

the police have blamed the shining path for the week-end bomb
attacks and said the offensive was organised to mark the 100th
anniversary of the birth of chinese communist leader mao tse
tung.

the shining path movement recently threatened to kill members
of the anti-terrorist police, the unit responsible for arresting
its top leader, abimael guzman, on september 12.

this is the first time since guzman's capture that the maoist
guerrilla organisation has openly threatened to kill policemen.

as a result of the recent wave of bomb attacks, lima police
have been placed on maximum alert. (ends/ips/trd/-sp/al/cs/cg/92)
----
From: nicanet@nyxfer.UUCP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Date: 28 Dec 92 14:22 PST
Subject: Brazil:Collor Trial news 12/27
Nf-ID: #N:76FiwB20w165w@nyxfer.uucp:-373950030:000:2244
Nf-From: nyxfer.uucp!nicanet    Dec 28 14:22:00 1992


Subject: Brazil:Collor Trial news 12/27
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BRAZILIAN IMPEACHMENT TRIAL POSTPONED

The impeachment trial of Brazilian President Fernando Collor de
Mello was postponed on Dec. 21--the eve of the Senate
proceedings--until Dec. 29. Collor's move to delay the trial by
dismissing his lawyers was denounced as a cynical move to buy
time, though Collor claimed it was to prevent senators from
acting under "tremendous political pressure" and because he is
seeking a "fair and impartial trial in a climate free from
emotions and conflicts of interest." Collor said he "was victim
of a defamatory campaign without precedent in the history of the
country." [NYT 12/22/92 from AP; ED-LP 12/22/92 from AFP] 
 
The president of Brazil's Supreme Federal Court, Sidney Sanchez,
has expressed his opposition to Collor's petition to delay the
trial for another month; he said he will make his formal decision
on the request on Dec. 28 after consulting with the prosecuting
attorneys. "If it depends on me, the date of Tuesday the 29th
will be maintained," said Sanchez; prosecutor Evandro Lins y
Silva said he will not allow a further delay of the trial, due to
the total absence of good faith on Collor's part. Sanchez also
warned that Collor's new defense lawyer, appointed by the state,
must take up the process at the phase it is currently in. [ED-LP
12/27/92 from EFE]

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