From: mistik@mistik.anatolia.mn.org (Mustafa Soysal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Mustafa S's misconceptions
Date: 7 Sep 92 23:44:38 GMT
Organization: N.A.

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> From: by403@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
> Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
> Subject: Mustafa S's misconceptions
> Date: 7 Sep 1992 21:18:09 GMT
> Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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> mistik@mistik.anatolia.mn.org (Mustafa Soysal) writes:
> > re: (is he for real) : Can't you cope with long weekends Triantafyllopoulos ?
> 
> No quotes? Single (a'la Mutley) or double (a'la Argic?) No name
> mutilation? I'm  utterly disappointed. Better call my Member of Parliament
> in Greece (1-800-4-SADIK). 

Try making your name longer if you want, my editor copies.  Try harder
for manipulation also.

> 
> > Who left anyhow? Do you think someone has to address the BS you are
> > creating all the time? Or is it that you feel all alone otherwise?
> 
> Oh, pardon me, you were not gone, just busy... Then why are you posting now?

So you live in a binary world.  Do you expect me to give you my
schedule?  Remind you, I am responding to your nonsense, may be it should
be left in space.  Of course, you can ask all the questions you want....

My posting was just a response to someone saying that any business
announcement would be inappropiate.  And you got so scared that all
these Turkish and Muslim people could start networking by means of
announcements now.

> 
> > And what makes you so worried about Cosar's machine? I see you are
> > curious to find out, but hey, I like leaving you frying in anxiety.
> 
> What worries me about Cosar's machine? (hey, a football player in the Indy
> colts is called Kosar, any relationship?) That I'm going to see the famous
> trio flooding the net once again... But I'm actually looking forward to it.

I see, you drank too much ouzo yesterday.  First bitch when they write,
then bitch when they don't write.  Is bitching all your purpose in this
life?

> 
> > I was right on the money putting you into my e-mail kill file, always
> > nonsense.  Do you still remember grinding thru my mail filter into the
> > eternity of the bit bucket?
> 
> Ouch! Yeech! No More! No More! Please! No more mail filters; I confess; I am
> Gav*. Stop! Send in the Virtual Paramedics! Send in the Virtual Lawyers! Help!

I thought so.

> 
> > > (side-editorial. Are these guys real good friends or what? Hey, Cosar,
> > > can I have an account too? Man, I wouldn't give accounts out to people,
> > > who knows what evil GIF stuff they can upload...)
> > 
> > Exposing yourself Spiros Triantafyllopoulos? Say, are you still trying to make
> > friends :) ?
> 
> If you remember who forged the post to alt.binaries.pictures.erotica and
> was utterly humiliated and forced to post TWO apologies (the first was too
> lame, Ahmet, Sorry), just reach out and touch (THE phone company, get it?)
> cosar@anatolia. He also uploaded the porno-gifs... If you don't remember the
> events, you were gone for too long or your memory's too selective (or
> Cosar does not let you read all news on anatolia). 

Aren't you a little off the subject yet? Back to anouncements please. 
You are trying hard to make the subject wonder away.  What does this
have to do with the properness of announcements in this newsgroup? And
while you are at remembering, who scanned someone's picture in violation
of copyright law and put it on ftp?  Any relations between you and that group?

> 
> > Frankly, I don't care what you think.  I am only responding regarding to
> > what was posted in soc.culture.turkish.  I am not net.police, you know. 
> > I don't think you are qualified either.  Let the government worry abut
> > that stuff. 
> 
> Net.police is everyone on the net; It's called a co-operative network,
> unlike, other networks or services which have actual people doing these
> tasks. But  trying to explain the appropriate-ness or lack thereof of
> cross-postings to a 'Mistik' is a career in itself. 

Your misconception, it is a free net.  Your censorship does not go
beyond your machine.  Why are you trying to explain anything anyway?
I got my own brains and don't need your nurturing.

> 
> > > I beg to differ. Read the recent discussions on Usenet postins
> > > making it to Canada (stuff in alt.erotica groups (hi Cosar!) and
> > > see what happened in non-US sites where non-US laws were applied.
> > 
> > I don't care about that case, this is not about sex is it? I am in the
> > US, not Canada.  Is the Canadian or the Greek government < ;) > complaining ?
> 
> You indicated that the only applicable law on usenet is US law. Not right
> by a mile, as my example above illustrated.

Not so, as pornographie is covered by US law.  Trying non existing
analogies? Try harder if you like frustration.  And try to point out
what is violated here with the concept of announcements in mind.
You haven't got a case.

> 
> > NYou seem to have all Bells ringing in your head, but nothing else seems
> > to be ticking in there.  Did I post to the biz group? This is
> > soc.culture.turkish.  Can you read? Who do you think announcements are
> > for? This is not even the greek newsgroup.  It would be understandable
> > if you were objecting such an announcement there, but here? Are you
> > trying to prevent something based on your ethnic bias, say like ... 
> > networking? You are too obvious.  That's why put you in my e-mail
> > killfile after your second e-mail.  You are like a clear aquarium.
> > In a glass house that is.
> 
> Note the superior argument structure and racist bias. Did it ever occur

Where? In your head? That seems to be a dump anyway.  You are trying to
slander at most.  If you act brain dead, expect to be pointed at.

> to you that I don't like certain people because of their actions, NOT
> because of their ethnicity? Did you ever complain when Happyface and
> Co. were cross-posting their guts for four years? NOOOOOO.

Why should I complain? Because you would like it? They are doing a good
job in wrecking you, and I get all smileys watching it happen.

> 
> I actually decided to answer your post, because, as we say in Greek,
> "Mou thn Spas Re Paidi mou, pws na to kanoume". You're a special case in
> my 'C5' program. A 'M.u.t.l.u' that "bites back", and as such, deserve
> special recognition. 

You seem to be lost.  Then again, you might be a program that got out of hand.

> 
> See, Mustafa, that's the key right there. When Martillo was posting all his
> favorite quotes (including the classy "Greeks should have stayed under 
> Ottoman Occupation") I never objected or tried to post back. No intellectual
> challenge as the entertainment appeal of Martillo's postings was limited.

Ah, what challenges you in my postings? As I said, you aren't getting
entertained, you are getting exposed.  Have you noticed yet?

> Hasan & Company have produded quotes which will continue to lighten up the
> lifes of individuals on the net for GENERATIONS to come. Who would forget the
> immortal "Take care of luxuries and necessities would take care of themselves?"
> 
> > If it comes to judging stupidity of postings, you should go and hide
> > real well until everyone forgets about your postings and mailings.
> 
> More superior arguments; if you can't answer on the issues, call the issues
> stupid. Sounds like someone we know (hi Hasan) only MUCH lamer. If you
> can't answer the specifics, attack the person. Way to go...

No, no.  *You* called someone elses posting stupid, remember? And 'lame'
would apply to you very well, as you weren't addressing any issues, just
name calling, and trying to slander here and there who have nothing to
do with this thread. 

( :::Comments about an idiotic business announcement posted in: )
These are your words, and not only once.  Expect to be judged by it.

> 
> > Do *you* answer all the junk mail you find in your mailbox :) ?
> 
> Of course. Don't you? All junk mail that has a pre-paid business reply
> envelope always goes back to its originator along with a nasty notice to
> stop any further junk mail. Has done wonders as I receive less and less
> junk mail every day (practice suggested by misc.consumers years back)

Sure.

> 
> > > > Mustafa Soysal
> > > 
> > > But still no kute .signature
> 
> > Sorry, I am not here to please you.  Do you think the world should
> > revolve around you?
> 
> Nah, should the world revolve around me I'd have to buy me a suit and tie
> to look good on the evening news. (In Greek "Se doulevw reeeee").

So why are you trying to get entertainment so hard? Can't live without
hassles?

> 
> > Who cares whether or not if you are impressed.  Do you think people are
> > trying to entertain you? I don't think any posting of you is reasonable,
> > but who cares?  Are you going to stop posting because of that?
> 
> Here's exhibit A your honor: Cable TV at $23.95 a month. Usenet is free.
> Which one is more entertaining? Usenet, of course. At ANY PRICE.

I bet some are entertained very well by your postings.  That means you
are in show business now, put on the suit and tie.

> 
> > No excuses, we know what sarcasm is.  This might be proof that Mutlu has
> > to wreck people like you day in day out, so you don't have time to
> > create other BS. 
> 
> Wreck? Au Contraire, Mon Capitan. I was actually beginning to suffer from
> Acute Mutluic Withdrawal Syndrome (AMWS) A synthesized prescription pill, ARGIC,
> was provided for a week but the irregular dosage and difference in detailed
> composition did nothing to cure AMWS.

That is a wreck.  Quick, Mr Mutlu, he needs it really bad.

> 
> If it took you that long and you still haven't figured out that I really
> would like Hasan & Co to continue posting their drivels so that they can
> do even more damage to their 'cause' and provide entertainment, I'm sadddened
> (with 3 D's, like SADDDIK). To quote Ahmet once again, "what a 'Sipa'...".
> 
> > Mustafa Soysal

That would be Spiros Triantafyllopoulos at best. ('SIpa' that is)

> 
> (he actually has a cute .signature, but it's made out of non-printable chars, 
> like \033\011\012\012\012\011\001\001\000\000\000). 

So, did you decode them yet?  It might be a secret message.

> 
> Argh. Now I've done it. He's going to put me in his kill file... Wasn't a 
> famous Ottoman (TM) that said that "Kill files are a sign of intellectual
> inadequacy?"

As for inadequacy, try to note the difference between e-mail kill files and
news kill files.  I guess there is no chance. <>

> 
> Spiros (Who would LOVE to move to Cleveland but the weather Sucks big time). 
> --
> Spiros Triantafyllopoulos                by403@freenet.cleveland.edu
> OUZO POWER                               [other email address crossed out]

Ouzo will do this to you Spiros Triantafyllopoulos.

I set the followup to alt.flame, as you seem to have nothing to say on
the subject.  I bet you'll find all the entertainment you want there.


Mustafa Soysal


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