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Date: Friday, 10 Apr 1992 20:13:57 EDT
From: Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Star Wars canon stuff. Stop it please
 <5125@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at>

In article <5125@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at>, mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at
(Markus Stumptner) says:
>
>From article <1992Apr5.003649.8411@u.washington.edu>, by
>wiml@milton.u.washington.edu (William Lewis):
>> at one point, and is now younger than Luke. (How do I know? Well,
>> I found these old letters in my attic ... seems Leia's highschool
>> boyfriend knew my great^n-aunt ... or something. _Trust_ me!)
>
>If those letters are not stamped "canon", then it's a fairly safe
>guess they'll turn out to be fakes.
>--
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>Paniglg. 16, A-1040 Vienna, Austria             ...mcsun!vexpert!mst

C'mon folks!  This is rec.arts.sf.movies, not rec.arts.sf.starwars!
Talk this discussion to that group, please!  (Smilies for the humor-impaired.
Five more days til we get our new group!

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Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 1992 21:35:18 EDT
From: Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Star Wars canon stuff. Stop it please
 <1992Apr12.101810.24285@en.ecn.purdue.edu>

In article <1992Apr12.101810.24285@en.ecn.purdue.edu>, brown@en.ecn.purdue.edu
(Anthony C Brown) says:
>
>    Hey guys, I have a question that's been bothering me for many years.
>Why didn't Han Solo use a lightsaber.  He was a jedi knight after all.

Well, because he got an F in lightsaber class.  I should know...I was a class-
mate of his and got an A in the same class....what a weenie.  It was I that
suggested he take up smuggling as a career since he wasn't good at much else
(which earned me a fat lip).  No, really...I am a Jedi Knight.   Really!  I AM!
MMMwwwwwaaaaa hhahahahahahahahaaahah!!   I AM A JEDI KNIGHT!

Seriously, though...(mwa ha!)....Han Solo was no Jedi.  That's why he didn't
use one.  And if he was one, he had stated many times he like his blaster.

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From: bperles@iastate.edu (Brian P Perles)
Subject: Re: Stupid Threads
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:40:56 GMT

What would you recemend?  Why dont you start a new topic?

	HOWEVER!!!!!!!!!!!

He does have a point, the Star Trek vs. X was at least half way fun
because it was a trec./wepons/tacdicts(sp)/stats. poster  war.  It made
you think.
	Now its just getting stupid.....


			brian
From: dkrause@miami.acs.uci.edu (Doug Krause)
Subject: Re: Could Batman beat the T-1000?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:46:57 GMT

In article <malinon.702798389@pv054c.vincent.iastate.edu> malinon@iastate.edu (Ramon C Redondo) writes:
#Hero's don't ALWAYS win, haven't you ever seen the short film, _Bambi_vs_
#Godzilla_?  Of course, I can see where you'd think that Godzilla was the 
#hero...     

Apparently you missed "Bambi's Revenge".

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From: TAB129@psuvm.psu.edu (Todd Alan Bobenrieth)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Aliens Uncut Question
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:37:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92101.143746TAB129
Organization: Penn State University

I recently saw the uncut version of Aliens and noticed that at the end it
didn't show the egg opening that I heard about. Is it true that an egg did
that at the end or did I hear wrong? Any word on this would ease my mind
about it. Anyway, if Aliens was an A+ movie without the other footage,
it must get a new rating that goes beyond A+ completely intact.
Just my two cents worth.

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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Could Batman beat the T-1000?
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:31:23 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Apr9.000948.19138@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, ahawks@isis.cs.du.edu 
> Who would win:  Jerry Brown or Papa Smurf?

Papa Smurf, hands down!  He's not as much of a flake.

Greg Bole	                    Maid Marian: "Why, you speak treason!"
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu         Robin Hood: "Fluently"
                                    From _The Adventures of Robin Hood_
From: agapow@latcs1.lat.oz.au (paul-michael agapow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Batman vs. Spiderman
Date: 13 Apr 92 05:16:31 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

<rauser.702945880@sfu.ca> rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:
>
>   If Batman fought Spiderman, who would win? Granted Spidey is much stronger
>and faster...but Batman's got a wealth of gadgets and his studly armour. 
>Both are brilliant (remember, Peter Parker was a science grad student) but
>Batman is much shrewder IMHO. More importantly, if these two heroes were to
>fight to the death, who would you netters cheer for?

What i really want to know is, if the Ewoks fought the Smurfs, who would
win? Like while the Ewoks are hardened combat veterans, and might have a
few ATTs still hanging around, the Smurfs have magic and the wisdom of
Grandpa Smurf. And of course they could always distract the ewoks with
Smurfette and make a flanking attack. But the Ewoks could probably
convince the Care-Bears to join their side which would even up the fight.
i'm not sure if ET would join the Smurf side, he/it might hire him/itself
out as a mercenary to either side, and since neither side has a monetary
system, this would present problems. 

So what do you think?

p-m

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From: GERTHD@mvs.sas.com (Thomas Dachsel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: STARMAN anyone?
Date: 15 Apr 92 09:08:00 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
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Hi everybody,
are there still STARMAN fans out there (both movie starring Jeff
Bridges and TV series starring Robert Hays) who haven't heard
of SPOTLIGHT STARMAN INTERNATIONAL?
There is going to be a major convention at Beverly Garland Hotel,
North Hollywood, Los Angeles from April 24th to April 26th.
Spotlighters from all over the world will join there to celibrate
the spirit of STARMAN. Even Robert Hays will stop by.
Anyone who's interested in joining us is encouraged to write a mail
to GERTHD@MVS.SAS.COM for getting information.
Blue Lights!
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Germany
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Phone: +49 6221 4150, +49 6203 12274
From: dmiller@pop-tarts.ai.mit.edu (David P. Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Terminator, what book?
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:25:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: life.23246
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory

In article <1992Apr9.141958.5110@engage.pko.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The fox so cunning and free) writes:

>The original TERMINATOR story was heavily influenced by two episodes of the
>60's TV series THE OUTER LIMITS written by Harlan Ellison, though: "Soldier"
>and "Demon With a Glass Hand".
>
>(I'm being kind when I say "heavily influenced". They are close enough that
>Ellison would probably have won the plagiarism suit he filed, if the studio
>hadn't settled with him out of court.)

Come on! "Soldier" was about a soldier who accidently got sent back in
time, and was turned from a preprogrammed killing machine into a
sensitive self-sacrificing killing machine by the kindness and
affection of Ozzie & Harriet.  Terminator bore a stronger resemblance
to "All you Zombies" by Heinlein, there at least time travel was being
performed for the express purpose of changing the future.  Ellison has
made good arguments about giving proper credit to authors, but I
thought his suit about terminator was spurious at best. Ellison is
certainly not the originator of time-travel stories, stories about
robots, or stories about war, or even the originator of any
combination of the above. His original screenplay may have born more
resemblance (I've never seen it), but as broadcast, these stories had
only the most superficial of resemblances to Terminator, and the major
similarity was the lightning effects when the time-traveler appeared!

-dmiller@ai.mit.edu
From: ewk@seal.micro.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Could Batman beat the T-1000?
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:34:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.1992Apr9.193450.2543
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis: Under Grad Workstation Lab.

In <rauser.702762257@sfu.ca> rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:



>    Could Batman beat the T-1000? Certainly in hand to hand combat Batman
>would be in trouble. But using his gadgets and weapons and his computers
>to perhaps figure out some weakness in the T-1000...perhaps he could beat
>the liquid metal monster!

>   Batman vs. the T-1000....who would win??


Batman already beat the T-1000, by about $40 million.
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From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Subject: Re: Maniacs vs. madness.
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 02:46:17 GMT

In article <92103.183211JMH131@psuvm.psu.edu> JMH131@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
> Wouldn't it be cool if they had a movie where Jason, Freddy Krueger, Michael
> Myers, Pinhead, and Leatherface formed an alliance against the forces of good.
> What could possibly stand in their way?  Or would they fight against each
> other because they spoiled each others plans?

Mighty Mouse to the rescue!  "Here I come to save the day!"

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From: jtisdel@digi.lonestar.org (Michael Tisdel)
Subject: Re: QUESTION:  Theme from 2001: A Space Odyssey
Summary: who did it
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 15:35:00 GMT

In article <49620002@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter Brooks) writes:
>The "theme" from 2001 is the opening section of Richard Strauss's
>_Also_Sprach_Zarathustra_, [Thus spake Zarathustra].  Can't remember
>the exact orchestra and conductor, off hand.  The sound track is
>available on CD and is a good sampler of classical music.  BTW, the
>rest of ASZ is pretty good, too.
>
>Pete Brooks

I think it was the Berliner Philharmoniker, Herbert von Karajan conductor that
did the _Also Sprach Zarathrustra_.  I know they were the ones who did _The
Blue Danube_.



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From: kim3@husc10.harvard.edu (Jason Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Star Wars canon stuff. Stop it please
Date: 12 Apr 92 11:59:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Apr12.075952.10985
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Apr12.101810.24285@en.ecn.purdue.edu> brown@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Anthony C Brown) writes:
>
>    Hey guys, I have a question that's been bothering me for many years.
>Why didn't Han Solo use a lightsaber.  He was a jedi knight after all.

EXCUSE ME?

Please tell me you're joking!
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From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Aliens 3 micro-clip shown
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.movies
Reply-To: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 12:25:04 GMT

During Entertainment Tonight last nite, on a report of women in the movies,
one 15 second or so clip of Aliens 3 was shown - actually, there might have
been two clips.  One showed an opening door while the announcer mentioned
Weaver, the other showed an alien's head - mouth opening and closing - 
an inch or so from I assume Weaver's head...
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From: sdt8s@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Macronaut at UVa)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: The Blood of Heroes
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:56:22 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

cleggp@aix.rpi.edu  writes:
> Has anyone besides myself seen "The Blood of Heroes" with Rutger Hauer?
> 
> Do any of the above people actually like it?
> 
> Does anyone think the sport of "Jugging" would be a really cool replacement
> for Monday Night Football?
> 
> ...Paul  (Thought this place needed a new kind of message besides "X vs. X"
>           and "I hate X vs. X message" messages...)
> 
> |FQT 1.10| Do not Disturb.  Already Disturbed.
> 
Yes to all questions. A fine movie.
--
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the risk successfully until no enemies are left: and then you will become
your own enemy, that the proud battle may go on: all others conquered,
there will remain only yourself to be conquered...(Carlos Fuentes)
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From: rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser)
Subject: Could Batman beat the T-1000?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:44:17 GMT



    Could Batman beat the T-1000? Certainly in hand to hand combat Batman
would be in trouble. But using his gadgets and weapons and his computers
to perhaps figure out some weakness in the T-1000...perhaps he could beat
the liquid metal monster!

   Batman vs. the T-1000....who would win??

--
Richard J. Rauser   "I like fighting Chun Li.
rauser@sfu.ca        Especially when I slide under her legs and glance up."
WNI                                       -Dhalsim


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From: bperles@iastate.edu (Brian P Perles)
Subject: Re: War of the worlds
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:43:22 GMT


	NEW QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	In that TV show remake of WW, they find a cystral in a valt that
came form the aliens.  A friend of mine said that it was used in the moive,
but I never caught it, did any one elce?

			brian (thats all)
From: mephron@tronsbox.UUCP (Geoffron)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Ending of ALIENS...
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:11:05 GMT
Organization: Xanadu Enterprises Inc.

In article <1992Apr8.034938.11833@eecs.nwu.edu> kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman) writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.104113.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu> bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
>>I suggest you read R.A.Heinlein's "Starship Trooper".  
>>That's what a bug hunt is: Hunting aliens.
>
>I agree, but if you will recall, they hadn't ever met any aliens (of any sort)
>yet, so where did the term come from?
>
>Michael

According to the _ALIENS_ game (not a primary source, but  really, the only one
we got), there are alien species on other settled worlds.  The Aliens were the
first race that approximated sentience to that level that had been encountered.

(I'm not saying that the Aliens weren't sentient, only that as far as I'm
concerned, I don't want to get close enough to ask it to appear on 
_Jeopardy_......)


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> kaufman        | fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in
>  @eecs.nwu.edu | the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be
>                | lost in time - like tears in rain. Time to die.     Roy Batty 
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From: plutnj@aix.rpi.edu (James Matthew Plutnicki)
Subject: Re: Mistake at beginning of T2
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 22:43:00 GMT

In article <721t-nq@rpi.edu> cleggp@aix.rpi.edu (Paul Jason Clegg) writes:
>In article <VZJTiB2w164w@miracle.com> jess%miracle@merk.com (Shi'nayne) writes:
>>
>>It is also mentioned in the first movie, I believe, that the time travel
>>machine was destroyed after Reese came through it.  So another one must
>>have been built that would allow non-organic material through it???
>
>Yeah, I remember that, but didn't we find out that in T2, the human rebels
>weren't able to destroy it, and the computer sent T1000 through, and then
>the humans got it back, and sent the reporgrammed T800 (Arnie) thru?

How about this.  The T-1000 is sent first to kill John Conner, being the
prototype and the most powerful and killing John would be the most logical
step to stop the future.  The T-800 (from the first movie) is then sent
to insure that Skynet is built. (If you take a critical looked at the first 
movie, all that happened was the insurance that Skynet would be built from
the remains of the first Arninator).  The humans get there, John knows that
the T-1000 is sent first and sends his reprogrammed Arninator to stop that
one.  Then he send his fathere Reece to help Sarah and fight the Skynet
Arninator.  Then the time machine is destroyed.

As far as why the T-1000 can get thru the time machine, most likely he
was covered in a skin to travel.

Jim

|FQT 1.10| Did you expect mere proof to sway my opinion?
From: rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (System Administrator)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Batman vs. Spiderman
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:17:22 GMT
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

Can you please take this trash to a comic book forum??
Thats where this type of stuff belongs.
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From: cleggp@aix.rpi.edu (Paul Jason Clegg)
Subject: Re: Buckaroo Banzai and the Watermelon
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 23:27:47 GMT

In article <2102@transfer.stratus.com> adam@sw.stratus.com (Mark Adam) writes:
>> >airplane, and eaten at their leisure.  That was why the watermelon was in the 
>> >press - to see if it would burst.  (No explanation as to just how the damn
>> >thing was supposed to be CUT......)
>> 
>
>the concept was that the watermellon was engineered to withstand fantastic
>pressures but still be vulnerable to shearing stress. in other words, once it was
>safely on the ground the locals could come up and cut it with whatever was handy.

So basically it was an experiment in non-Newtonian materials; it would get
tough as nails when involved in a sudden impact, but would easily allow a
slow impact to damage it (in this case, a knife cutting the rine).

...Paul

|FQT 1.10| A Long Time Ago, In A Galaxy Far, Far Away...
From: brown@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Anthony C Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Star Wars canon stuff. Stop it please
Date: 12 Apr 92 10:18:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: en.1992Apr12.101810.24285
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


    Hey guys, I have a question that's been bothering me for many years.
Why didn't Han Solo use a lightsaber.  He was a jedi knight after all.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
From: kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: Ending of ALIENS...
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 03:49:38 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.104113.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu> bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
>I suggest you read R.A.Heinlein's "Starship Trooper".  
>That's what a bug hunt is: Hunting aliens.

I agree, but if you will recall, they hadn't ever met any aliens (of any sort)
yet, so where did the term come from?

Michael


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 kaufman        | fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in
  @eecs.nwu.edu | the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be
                | lost in time - like tears in rain. Time to die.     Roy Batty
From: E7A8HAR@TOE.TOWSON.EDU ("TOM HARRIS, REGISTRAR'S OFFICE")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: STAR WARS RADIO SHOW
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:03:00 GMT


	Could someone tell me whom I might be able to obtain a copy of 
the Star Wars Radio Shows?!
					-Tom
					E7A8HAR@TOWSONVX.BITNET
From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The fox so cunning and free)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Terminator, what book?
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:15:43 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Apr9.102543.14074@daimi.aau.dk>, daffy@daimi.aau.dk (Per Posselt Munck) writes...

} It has been mentioned a few times that Terminator is based on a book.

If it has been mentioned, then those people who have mentioned it are wrong.
THE TERMINATOR is not based on any book. There are novelizations of the
screenplays to both movies (in fact, there are two different novelizations
of the first movie -- one published in the US and one in Britain), and the
screenplay for T2 has been published in book form, but that's it.

The original TERMINATOR story was heavily influenced by two episodes of the
60's TV series THE OUTER LIMITS written by Harlan Ellison, though: "Soldier"
and "Demon With a Glass Hand".

(I'm being kind when I say "heavily influenced". They are close enough that
Ellison would probably have won the plagiarism suit he filed, if the studio
hadn't settled with him out of court.)

-- 

	"Buster, this trip downriver has been truly special.
	 Downright Twainian in a Hitchcockian sort of way."


--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
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