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From: so0y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen A. Oetjen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Help w/ graphics card (2nd request)
Date: 8 Sep 92 10:10:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.YefCmLi00iUyM4CWZ4
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hi,
 I got no response the first time, so here goes again,

 I bought a (supposedly) EGA card for my computer...  It did not come w/
any documentation, so I need some help on jumper settings, or other info
about the board...
 
   It is a paradise card, short, 8bit...  at the top of the card, it says 
'Autoswitch Monochrome REV 4'  Just beneath it has a bank of 6 DIP 
switches.  It has a standard DP9 monitor port, and a DP25 (parallel I assume)
along the bottom, it says Paradise systems, inc, 1987, and ASSY 28100+
It has 2 big PGA chips - 1Paradise PEGA 1A 383048, the other Paradise 
PBI 38306C 8808
 
Any help on switch setting or specifications from someone who has a card
like this or the manual would be greatly appreciated...
 
Thanks,
 
Stephen
so0y@andrew.cmu.edu
From: grtorlba@sumax.seattleu.edu (George Torralba)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Opinions on Iomega Tape250 Insider
Date: 8 Sep 92 00:28:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: sumax.4982
Distribution: usa
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

I'm looking at getting a tape backup and the Iomega Tape250 Insider caught
my eye.  It's a 3.5, 1 inch drive and that's about all I know of the drive.
Although I have the impression that this is a pretty new product, I'd like
to solicit opinion(s) from whoever knows anything about the drive.  Also,
the drive goes for around $260.00 locally, what/where/who carries a better
price around?

George
From: nan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Nan Zou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway CS1024NI = (!=) Mag Monitor
Date: 11 Sep 1992 09:45:56 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

pss1@kepler.unh.edu (Paul S Secinaro) writes:
>mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen) writes:

>>>I too bought the CS1024 in 1990.  I was told by Gateway that it was the same
>>>as the MAG monitor.  I also saw in one or two reviews that Gateway monitors
>>>were made by Tatung.

[...]

>I think there are two different monitors at issue here.  One is the
>older CS1024I, which is interlaced at the 1024x768 resolution.  The
>other is the CS1024NI, which does non-interlaced 60Hz 1024x768.  We
>have both models in the lab.  As far as I can tell, the CS1024I looks
>exactly like pictures of Tatung monitors I've seen in magazines.  I'm
>not sure if Gateway sells this monitor anymore, though.

Actually Mag is a subsidiary of Tatung, both based in Taiwan.  The Tatung
monitor you saw is most likely also made by Mag.

I worked at PacRim (Mag's North America reseller, Mag had a dinky one room
office downstairs) one summer, and I've seen some bad one before my eyes.

-- Nan
From: mcrocker@titan.ucc.umass.edu (MATTHEW S CROCKER)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Replace 486/33 by 486/50-CPU possible?
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:43:01 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <CARL.92Sep14172902@atlantis.Cayman.COM> carl@Cayman.COM (Carl Heinzl) writes:
>
>>Can every 486/33 Computer be upgraded to a 486/50?  So is it possible
>>with every 486/33-motherboard to take out the 486/33-Chip, take out
>>the crystal (provided it is in a socket), plug in the 486/50Mhz-CPU
>>and a 50Mhz-crystal to get a 486/50Mhz-Computer or is that not
>>possible with all systems?  If not, why (means, what parts on the
>>board is the mentioned crystal responsible for)?
>
>The answer is a simple *no*.  
>
>Now, for the more complete answer, here goes.  *Many* motherboards can
>be run at several speeds (25/33/50 Mhz) depending solely on the CPU
>chip, BIOS, Oscillator, and RAM installed.  So, it may be possible to
>switch the CPU chip and the oscillator and everything will work fine.
>The BIOS may croak if it has timing loops that must run at a certain
>speed (but you could always upgrade the bios too).
>
>Is it worth it???  Doubtful, especially with all the problems that
>could crop up.  The CPU chip is still the single largest cost item and
>is roughly 60-85% the cost of the entire motherboard.
>
>-Carl-
>
>--

You could however take out a 486/33 and replace it with a 486/66DX2
when they ship (have they shipped yet?).. this will still have a 33 MHz
bus speed so the BIOS and timer don't care but the Chip runs
at 66 MHz....   If its worth the money is another matter.

-Matt






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From: Maoee.Tsen@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Maoee Tsen)
Subject: DeskWriter on IBM compatible computer
Summary: DeskWriter 
Keywords: Deskwriter
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 05:23:43 GMT

Does anyone know how to hook up DeskWriter on PC with cheapest equipment
and have the DeskWriter work smoothly with Windows programs?

or do you knwo any ftp site where I can find this information?
I know that there is a ImageWriter driver for Windows available for hooking
up ImageWriter to PC, can I do it in the same way with DeskWriter?

If I buy the localtalk card for PC, do I need special driver for Windows?

Thanks in advance for your inputs, e-mail or reply is fine to me.

-Maoee
 
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From: shadow@r-node.gts.org (Jay Chu)
Subject: Supra 14.4k Fax/Modem
Organization: Public Access UNIX Information System
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 23:55:39 GMT

Is the Supra 14.4k Fax/Modem the cheapest (in $$) modem available for the PC?
Can I get a better/cheaper one with about the same features?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: graeme@hart.actrix.gen.nz (Graeme Hart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Making a 720k drive work when the BIOS only speaks 5 1/4"
Date: 9 Sep 92 7:58:25 GMT

baumgard@CS.ColoState.EDU (felix baumgardner @ Colorado State University) once wrote....
>
>
>Hello.  I have an old mitsuba 286 that doesn't recognize 3 1/2 inch drives.
>I have attached a 720k drive, and thus far I have gotten it to work...but...
>
>What I do now:
>
>  I tell the cmos setup that it's a 1.2 meg drive, and I use a sydex format-
>  in-the-background disk utility to format disks.  I found a patch that
>  allows me to format 360k disk to _720k_ in high-density drives.  It formats
>  the 720k 3 1/2" drive although the program believes it to be a 5.25" drive.  
>  This works.  After formatting, DOS recognizes these as 720k disks.

etc...

>  drive as a 3.5" 720k drive without a lot of fussing about.
>
>What I don't want to do:
>
>  Purchase new BIOS.  Call me cheap.
>
>Does anyone know where to find a bios patch (or something) that will allow me
>to just type FORMAT A: without the machine automatically trying to format
>the drive to 1.2 megs?  AaaAiGh!
>
>-Felix
>baumgard@mozart.cs.colostate.edu


The only solution I know of is to buy a floppy controller with a BIOS on
it.  I bought one from JDR Micro Devices, that seemed to work well - however
the reason I bought it was because it supported up to 4 floppies, not because
of the bios.

I also tried one other brand (I don't remember what), but it didn't work, so
if you can, get the card from a place with a good return policy.



Graeme
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: fluet@ee.ualberta.ca (Kevin Blaine Fluet)
Subject: Re: Ever hear of a Number 9 Video Card???
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 19:41:46 GMT

jmeyers@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jeff Meyers) writes:
>The business I do consulting for is planning the purchase including the
>above mentioned Number 9 video card.  They will be paying about $1200 !
>What is so special about this card?  Is that a resonable price?

Well, first of all 'Number 9' is a company, not just a specific card.  I
know that Dell sells the #9GXi card for about $1880 (Canadian).  It does 
1280x1024 at 72 Hz and has a feature allowing you to use a 'virtual
screen' measuring 2048x2048 pixels.
From: ry01@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ROBERT YUNG)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Looking for a cheap AND relaible v32bis modem...
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:29:54 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I'm planning to get a modem, but there are so many modems with relatively the
same specs but a large range of prices. I would love to get the
Satisfaxion/400 from Intel since it has a built in i186 and 512K buffer, but
$400 is too much for me. I've seen the Boca 14.4 for $229. Have anybody used
this card?
    I guess I should look for a card with a UART16650 to prevent data
loss. Any suggestions? I need a good balance between price and reliability.

    What I want:  v32bis, v42bis, MNP5, UART-16650, internal(cheaper)
                  Fax probably cost a very little more so I guess I won't mind
                  having that also.

    THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!




                  
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From: cab6944@usl.edu (Brasseaux Carl A)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: PAC SYSTEMS INTERNATIONAL.  INFORMATION PLEASE!!!
Date: 16 Sep 92 02:22:20 GMT
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana

If anyone out there has had experience dealing with PAC Systems
International, PLEASE contact me by e-mail at cab6944@usl.edu.  I am
thinking of buying a 486 machine from them.  Thanks.
Carl Brasseaux
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 17:26:08 EDT
From: Matt Richmond <MSR113@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Mail order company recommendations

Hi all.  A few weeks ago I made a few posts speaking in favor of
PC/USA as a PC mail order company.  I promised to keep posting
as to my dealings with them, in case any persons thinking about
mail-ordering a clone would be interested.  Well, my 486/33 came
with a bad Diamond Stealth video card.  When I called up tech
support, which I had *no* trouble getting connected to, and
talked with Ricky for < 5 minutes, I had a new Diamond Stealth
on the way.  It arrived in 3 days, and works flawlessly.  They
did want me to pay to ship the old card back, which I strongly
objected to.  We ended up compromising on this issue.  Now I've
found that the Stealth works with very few OS's besides Windows.
Well, I mean you can only use the Stealth's S3 chip in Windows,
not OS/2 or linux X.  Being the impatient person that I am, I'm
not willing to wait until drivers for these other OS's come out,
so I decided to "downgrade" to the SpeedStar 24X.  Not to mention
the thought of 16 million colors really interests me.  :-)
Anyways, I call up Ricky again, and after 2, count them TWO
minutes, I have a SpeedStar 24X coming my way, AND he's gonna
refund the difference in price to my credit card.  I think this
time I won't complain about paying for shipping the old card
back.  :)  Needless to say, I am *extremely* impressed with
this company and would highly recommend them to anyone wanting
to buy a PC.  Their prices are very competitive, and their
service outstanding.  I believe their number is 800-886-8999.
If anyone has any questions, feel free to e-mail me.

--Matt

Disclaimer:  I am not in any way associated with PC/USA, just
a very satisfied customer.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: rlee@bgsu.edu (Bob Lee)
Subject: Mouse Ball problems
Organization: Bowling Green State Univ.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 00:46:01 GMT

My mouse has been seving me fine for the past year. Then recently I've
been using it a lot and now the ball inside the mouse is losing its
ability to couteract friction. Now when I move it across the pad the
ball refuses to roll and so it does not spin the contacts in the mouse.

Did anyone else run into this problem? Is there an easy way to fix it?
Does the temperature/humidity have an effect on the ball?

Any answers would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
-BOB
From: Mike@tron.gun.de (Michael Gerhards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Is it possible to install 3rd hard d
Organization: TRON Public Mailbox, Neurath, Germany
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 17:08:00 +0200

Hallo,

> I happened to get a 80 mb hard disk (IDE).  But the problem is that I already
> have 2 hard disks (IDE) in my PC --- C and D is already occupied. I know that
> IDE controller has 2 hard disk interfaces and also CMOS has configurations
> for 2 hard disks. But, is there anyway to use this third drive?  Well, I have
> 100 and 120 mb HDD, so don't advise me to change one of them with this HDD

PC-Professional ( german version of PC-Magazine ) from jnuary 1992 contains
an article about 'Supercache-Controller' from 'DSM Computersysteme'. There
are two versions ( DSM 1600 , DSM 1616 ) witch could connect up to four HDD's
( MFM, RLL, IDE, ESDI, SCSI ) and an UPS.

I don't know, if you can get them in yout country but all manuals are written
in english. I think that they are products of an american company.

The DSM 1600 costs DM 1448,-- and the DSM 1616 costs DM 1598,--.

c u

Mike
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From: htweedie@madhat.actrix.gen.nz (Hamish Tweedie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: VGA vs SVGA
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:51:50 PST
Organization: The mad HATter's madhouse

	Can somebody illuminate me as to the differences between a VGA and
SVGA display?? All I currently know is that they both scan at 31.5kHz. Is
there any difference in the number of colours displayable, or other factors
I should be aware of before purchasing a monitor??

	Many thanks in advance.

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From: David.Norman@ttlg.UUCP (David Norman)
Sender: postmaster@ttlg.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: DTK 486 with Symphony chipset - relocating shadow ram
Date: 06 Sep 92  23:22:22 mst

Hello Duncan!

02 Sep 92 16:27, Duncan Murdoch wrote to All:

 DM> From: dmurdoch@mast.queensu.ca (Duncan Murdoch)
 DM> nsu.ca!mast.queensu.ca!dmurdoch Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
 DM>  Subject: DTK 486 with Symphony chipset - relocating shadow
 DM> ram Organization: Queen's University
 DM> @Message-ID: <dmurdoch.108.715451222@mast.queensu.ca>
 DM> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:27:02 GMT
 DM>
 DM> I've got a DTK 486-33, with DTK's own BIOS, and a Symphony chipset.  One
 DM> of the config options is a choice between relocating 0K and 256K of
 DM> the shadow ram.  The manual is quite vague about what this does, but with
 DM> 0K relocated, I have 384K of memory dedicated to shadow ram, and with 256K
 DM> relocated, only 128K of memory is used that way.
 DM>
 DM> The trouble is, the 256K relocation seems to confuse QEMM386 2.42.  I get
 DM> weird crashes as though it thinks my memory is quite different than it
 DM> really is.  If I ask for 0K relocation, the problems go away - but so does
 DM> 256K of memory.
 DM>
 DM> Does anyone know exactly what this relocation does, and how to tell QEMM
 DM> to live with it? Duncan Murdoch dmurdoch@mast.queensu.ca -+- Fred-Uf 1.8k
 DM> + Origin: Passed through TTLG:  UUCP <> ProgNet gateway (42:1000/2.0)


Dtk Uses strange ways to do things. You can tell qemm not to shadow roms with the noshadow command. Or you can change the bios to a real one. The chipset os ok, but the bios stinks.

David

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From: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com (Gantt Edmiston)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Source for 16550AFN's?
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:06:07 GMT
Reply-To: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com


In article, ghenniga@NMSU.Edu writes:
>
>With all the discussions about replacing 8250/16450's with 550's has anyone
>found a good source for these chips? By good I mean a reasonable price
>with sales people who know what you mean when you say you want to order
>16550AFN's and NOT 165550's!
>
>Thanks,
>Gary Hennigan
>(ghenniga@NMSU.Edu)

Gary, I just posted the info below for a similar request in this newsgroup.


In the SEPT issue of Computer Shopper, on page 438, there is an ad for
the NS16550.  Price: $14.90

The advertisement is for a company for which I have no association or
knowledge of:

DALCO Electonics
223 Pioneer Blvd.
Springboro, Ohio   45066

1-800-445-5342

 8:30 - 16:30 M-F
10:00 - 16:00 Sat
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From: utidjian@remarque.berkeley.edu (David M.V. Utidjian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Good UNIX/X setup?
Date: 15 Sep 1992 13:50:19 GMT
Organization: Processed People for a Processed America
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu
Originator: utidjian@remarque.berkeley.edu

I am sure this is a FAQ, but I couldn't find it.

I am looking to run UNIX and X on an IBM 486/50mhz clone.

I need to know what specific recommendations I should follow
for hardware and software.

-	How big a SCSI drive I should have (200+ meg?)
-	What kind of video card I need to run X for a
	NEC 5FG monitor. (Is there a better monitor?)
-	Where to look for unix and X software.
-	What kind of mouse,(2 or 3 button?)
-	How much RAM is required.
-	Do I need a wierd BIOS?

Any and all help is appreciated, the more specific the better.
Reply to the above newsgroups or email.

Thanks for your time and attention...

David Utidjian
utidjian@remarque.berkeley.edu
dmu5391@hertz.njit.edu

From: David.Norman@ttlg.UUCP (David Norman)
Sender: postmaster@ttlg.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Need help with WD Controller card
Date: 07 Sep 92  09:40:54 mst

Hello Gregory!

03 Sep 92 07:54, Gregory Sroka wrote to All:

 GS> From: gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Sroka)
 GS> groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Subject: Re: Need help with WD Controller
 GS> card Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
 GS> @Message-ID: <1992Sep3.075438.23471@leland.Stanford.EDU>
 GS> @References: <q-knf9#.bob@netcom.com>
 GS> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 07:54:38 GMT
 GS>
 GS> In article <q-knf9#.bob@netcom.com> bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
 GS>
 >> I have a Western Digital MFM (I think) controller card.  The model
 >> appears to be WD1006V-SR2.  I cannot get it to respond to a
 >> hard drive.  The only pins that are jumpered are 1 & 2 of W1.
 >> W1 has pins 1-6, and W2 thru 5 are two pins each.
 >> Can anyone tell me which pins to connect to enable 2 floppy
 >> drives and two hard drives?
 >>
 >> Any help will be appreciated.
 >> Thanks!
 >>
 >>
 GS>
 GS> Ooops. That's an RLL controller, isn't it?
 GS>
 GS> -+- Fred-Uf 1.8k
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 GS>

The card is set up for two hard drives. Just plug them in. You have to tell cmos that you have a second drive. You have to format it with the bios on the card. Use debug to get to the rom, Address is cc00:5 I think, If you have problems I will check for you. The jumpers will only disable the cache floppys and the address of the card.

       --David

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From: sja@world.std.com (Stuart J Adams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: What is the bset low-cost PC based Voice Mail System
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:14:22 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

I am interested in a low-cost PC based Voice Mail system. The only one
I know of is the the Big-Mouth. Are there others and are they better ????




Thanks,
Stuart Adams
sja@world.std.com
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From: wolfi@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Wolfgang Schwanke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,rec.video
Subject: Video -> VGA, VGA -> Video
Date: 12 Sep 92 20:02:03 GMT
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany

Hello everyone,

I'd like to ask the net a few questions on hardware that displays video
on your computer screen. Especially, what exactly does the 'screen machine'
do? What's the difference between the regular screen machine and 'screen
machine light' that's being advertised?

Am I right that the screen machine digitises a video signal and displays it
on VGA in real time under Windows using a software that comes with it, and
that the s.m. light can only handle still frames for saving them in a file?

I'm also interested on a device that outputs VGA to video. I heard a thing
called 'video enhancer' does that?

And does anyone know what the so called 'video blaster' is?

I'd prefer infos on the PAL world, but other experience is also appreciated,
since I assume most of that hardware is available for both systems.


Thank you in advance,

wolfi

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: g8@cbnews.cb.att.com (k.d.tentarelli)
Subject: Re: Diamond 24X and Stealth VRAM
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:13:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.062656.28250@usl.edu> mxt5182@usl.edu (Tangjarukij Montri) writes:
>Hi, everyone
>
>     I'd like to buy a SVGA card for my 486-33 machine. Could anyone
>tell which one I should buy between Diamond 24X and Stealth VRAM?
>
It must be that the differences are mostly important when playing games.
I've used both boards for image and graphics work and find that the CPU
time to alter images typically exceeds the video update time.  In fact,
when working with large files the real time killer is disk access time
(multiple copies of large images don't fit in RAM).

So, my conclusion is that any speed difference between Stealth and 24x is
negligible in image and graphics manipulation applications.   All the 
concern here on the net about video speed must stem from applications
like games and multimedia which use very little CPU power.