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From: "Victor Kuan                                                " <kuan@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Performance Enchancing Drugs in Olympics
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:59:12 -0500

In article <77877@ut-emx.uucp> onlit@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (K2-2nd on Earth) writes:
>In article <6130088@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan) writes:
>>... 
>>drug too???. Yes, Our Hong Kong people can't get any metal because all others
>>are druged :-0 :-0 :-). What an excuse?
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>

	That's Cue!

>Some friends of mine complained to me that NBC was extreme Great Americanist.

	I agree... But for the business/commercial purpose, if the event is
	not an American favor (Gold medal winner), it may not have the
	audience... In fact, Americans are not so 'crazy' about Oplympics,
	not to mention World Cup Soccer, they'd rather watch Pro football.
	Sigh!

>If US athletes were not in an event's final, say women's volleyball, it would
>not show the final.  This was also exemplified by the remarks of their 
>commentators.  I was in Canada watching some of the events live during the
>Olympics.  So I didn't get that impression.  Anyway, it is not a good attitude
>by any standard.  
>

	But, I think that NBC offered a what-so-call tripleCast (Blue
	Red and White channels). I assumed that those channels may
	boardcast more events, right? I didn't know because I can
	afford to subscribe.... Can anyone who subscribed it verify it?

>Thanks for Charles Mok's detailed information about drug testing in swimming.
>I have also heard that the Gold medalist will definitely be tested only if 
>he/she has broken a world record. 
>
>Andrew 
>-- 
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>|      Lee, On-Lit Andrew          |               - Motto of Outward Bound 
>|                                  | 
>|  email: onlit@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu |  "Your disability is your opportunity"
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SonCheong Kuan				  kuan@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu
Software Specialist
From: poon@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Ka-Cheong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: OH my... look what I found...
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:16:55 GMT
Reply-To: poon@schaefer.UUCP (Ka-Cheong)
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics

In article <1992Aug21.133936.27220@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:

[Deleted]
>well... sorry for making so much noises on the net... I was just so excited
>to see something happening so close to home... (BTW, I live very  close
>to HKUST).  So I figured I share my joy and the "invaluable" info 
>with you folks... sorry.  *embarassed look*

At least now I know that there is something like that in HK.  No need to be
embarassed.

Have fun!!!

								Poon.
From: K.K.Soo@bradford.ac.uk (KK SOO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Performance Enhancing Drugs in Olympics
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:11:24 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 91862372@muser

leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So) writes:
: 
:   But I strongly object the decison to allow Johnson back on the track.
:   This can give a wrong message to other athletes that using drug is
:   not a big deal at all: Even though you got caught once, you can still
:   compete some time later.
 
I have a different point of view here. It sounds like if a person did a
wrong thing, he should not have any opportunities again. I don't know
how much courage had Ben Johnson paid, but at least we could see him
in Semi-finals. That is great, why don't we give him three cheers instead?

On the other hand, many atheletes took drugs were sometimes because of
their coaches. They didn't mean doing that actually. A lifetime ban to
them would be a bit too much.

:   In my point of view, a lifetime ban of any competition for a drug user
:   is more appropriate. At this time when the flesh capabilities of 
:   atheletes has been pushed to their very limits, I can anticipate a
:   bigger dependence on performance enhancing drugs in future games. If
:   we don't have some harsher penalty, the games in future will become
:   even much dirtier.

No one loves watching a coward to take a medal. A lifetime ban for a drug
user is something like to sentence a murderer to death.
-- 
Fred
From: yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Japanese invasion
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:41:01 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard ISG-SBU-PWD, UK.

>soc.culture.hongkong / c60a-aa@volga.Berkeley.EDU (Ka-Chung Wong) / 10:20 am  Aug 17, 1992 /

>I'd like to tell the very poorly-informed Mr. Perry that China is not always 
>like the way it is. Since the beginning of human civilization China has
>been the most sophisticated and civilized nation on earth.  Until several 
>hundreds years ago, Japan was China's subordinate, culturally and politically.
>You are assuming that, in invading China and other Asian countries, Japan was
>merely doing what China would have done if given the chance.  The fact is 
>that, China had the chance to colonize all the neighboring countries but did
>not do so, for several thousands of years!  Moreover, Japan is only a hilly 
>country with minimal natural resources.  Why would China want to invade her?
>Please study some Chinese history before you speak about WWII and China.

I am not agree on all of these. China did invaded the neighouring countries.
Sometimes, massacre had happened. The situration is very different to what
we think nowaday. The centrial (local) area of China has been fixed since
Ch'in which is just expaned into no man's land (yes, there were some people,
but they were just watching the march of Ch'in army). After that, only
Tang, Mongoilian and Chang were bigger. Most of the war between China and
her neighours were sort of defending. The biggest wars was to the countries
in the north who attacked northern China all the time. Others to south,
east and west were trying to establish the big brother status among her
neighours, which is not necessary. Time and again, we read that we
sent in troops, capture their king and demanded they sent someone to
see our empiror every year and then the war ended. Another type of war was
answer to invitation from one of the waring factions in a neighouring 
country. example Koera in Ming (they have civil war themself, one of them
asked for Chinese troop while another asked for Japanese). 
The different is, China invaded other countries for 1. defend, 2. Establish
status and 3. involves in other people matter like American did in Vietnam
and Koera. Except for 1, the damage to the invaded countries were quite
small (or in case 3, damage is already been done by themselves). Japan,
on the other hand were seeking for land and resources after modonisation 
from 19th centry when they felt that they were too small and short of
resources to expand.

>Had Japan denouced militarism, all the Japanese prime ministers would not 
>have paid tribute to the WWII Japanese generals and other military leaders
>at one point or the other;  the textbook would not have renamed the invasion as
>"enter"; Japanese would have taught their children some truth about the War.

Their prime ministers only started to pay tribute to the war criminals in the
late 70s. They were not strong enough at that time.

Yuk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: akwy@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Alan Kin Wah YIM)
Subject: Re: Need the program for converting tiff file to gif file
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 21:40:32 GMT

I'm sorry! The file I intended to suggest is not WINJP120. It should be
PSPRO101.ZIP (or PSP101.ZIP in some ftp sites). It's called Paint Shop Pro.
It's another Windows 3.x application. BTW, WINJP120 is a JPEG viewer for
Windows 3.x.

Alan of HKPGCS.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: It is only a testing!
From: <LWCQB@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Sunday, 16 Aug 1992 21:35:06 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Hello, everybody, it is only a testing!!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: Victor Kuan                                                 <kuan@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Leaving Hong Kong
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:13:01 -0500

In article <1992Aug12.001530.8580@nic.umass.edu> s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Peter Hawkins) writes:
>In article <1992Aug10.031624.7129@schaefer.math.wisc.edu> poon@schaefer.UUCP (Ka-Cheong) writes:
>>
>>To me: "wherever it is, if there is love, it is my home".
>>
>>Have fun!!!
>>
>>								Poon.
>don't be silly, u mean you will go live in mainland china if you find love
>there? or your definition of love is kind of unique? what's your definition
>of love?
>

	I don't think that it is silly. Certainly, it is better
	than separating you and your love one. Sometime, I put it
	this way... we are well better off for having at least
	more than 20 years of our kind of freedom... Living in
	China is not that bad if you know how to adapt it.... :)

>
>-- 
>// s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Peter Hawkins)
>// this message is made possible through the contributions of: 
>// zxcvbnm,./';lkjhgfdsaqwertyuiop[]\=-0987654321`
>// ~!@#$%^&*()_+|}{POIUYTREWQASDFGHJKL:"?><MNBVCXZ


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SonCheong Kuan				  kuan@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu
Software Specialist
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: thomasc@dragonfly.wri.com (Thomas Chin)
Subject: Re: Hong Kong Movie (Once time a time in china disappointed me)
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 18:44:01 GMT

>>The movie "Once Upon a Time in China II" is one of a good movies I have seen.
>>Are there any other good movies recently shown in Hong Kong?
>> 

As an ultimate movie lover, I can't resist throwing in my two cents and I 
wonder is there any netter at all would have the same feeling as mine -  I was 
disappointed by 'Once upon a time in China'.  sure, as a showcase of martial 
arts and complex physical manuever - make possible only with Li's strong 'Shen-
Lin' martial art background and the extraordinary creativity of HK martial art 
directors, it is a very impressive piece of martial art movie.  However, it is 
not Tsui Hark, he used to be a different director.  compare it with his early 
films like 'Peking opera blue', 'Shanghai blue', he used to have his unique, 
charmed sense of humor, used only to outline the granularity of passionate yet 
complex interpersonal interaction. That is the 'people' part.  Tsui Hark has 
always included 'big things' part (political things in many case) in his films, 
but the degradation I see is he is elevating the 'big things' part and giving 
up the 'people' part.  In 'Once upon a time in China', plots between characters 
are forcefully done, many of them are even unreasonable, not to say described 
in detail.  Yet, the film is political, filled with ambiguous rightness and 
wrongness, which clearly would kill instead of help people.  Tsui Hark changed 
his style since 'Better Tomorrow 3', his style is becoming similar to John 
Woo's, who once is his follower; only John Woo is now better - he is more 
dedicated and less ambiguous.

I missed 'Shanghai blue'. I afraid without Tsui Hark, I am not going to see 
another one of it.


-Tom
From: rhc52134@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Richard)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: To all Wah Yan past students
Date: 20 Aug 92 02:09:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bt9FB3.IyF
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo) writes:

>In article <1992Aug12.210347.5468@wuecl.wustl.edu> ppc1@cec1.wustl.edu (Peter Pui Tak Chiu) writes:
>>this year's hkcee, we have three 10As!
>>
>>pete

>from wychk wyck?  How about other school

There are 5 10 A's this year. 3 from Wah Yan-HK, one form DBS and one from
MCS. A lot of 9 A's, not even mentioned in some newspapers.

Richard
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: klp@doe.carleton.ca (Ka Lun Pang)
Subject: Re: Premarrital sex, daemon, and law *&* PRE-M.Sex in Chinese Soc'ts
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:28:26 GMT

In <9208201910.AA06987@moe.optics.rochester.edu> ng@MOE.OPTICS.ROCHESTER.EDU (Baldwin Ng) writes:


>In article <Bt9B54.KB6.2@cs.cmu.edu>, Fred W. Au wrote:

>Oh well, since you like P.M.S, just have to say: Good Luck, to both you and
                         ^^^^^^
>your sex-partner(s)!  Hope you are a person(delete) "SAFE" person!


Excuse me, but I think this abbreviation has another "offical" meaning and hey,
no one likes it. (Consult your family doctor for details)


>Baldwin Ng (ng@moe.optics.rochester.edu)
>******************************************************************************
>****************** STOP   THE   AIDS   EPEDEMIC ******************************
>******************************************************************************


klp
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo)
Subject: Re: Premarrital sex, daemon, and law
Organization: Oracle World HQ, Redwood Shores, California
Distribution: usa,local
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:44:28 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <kingw.713779206@sfu.ca> kingw@fraser.sfu.ca (King Rio Wong) writes:
>
>     Guess what.  I am a Christian.  (though maybe now some people may think
>that I am not, according to whoever's definition.)
>
>>Someone still hanging to seek a pure love,
>>John Chiu
>
>     Me too!
>
>Timothy Lam   (on a friend's account, still!)
>BTW, my opinion has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the owner of this account.

It seems contradictory here for you to mention your religious belief.
Though it might not be generally nice to impose your values on others
but calling yourself Christian while refusing to follow the Christian's
belief and practice and the bible seems unacceptable for me.
I think you better call yourself god-believer rather than Christian.

George


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: akwy@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Alan Kin Wah YIM)
Subject: Re: Need the program for converting tiff file to gif file
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 02:12:39 GMT

cychong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Chi Yin R Chong) writes:

>Hi, every soc.culture.hongkong subscriber,

>     I used a software called DeskScan II to run the HP scanner and I scanned 
>some pictures which are saved as tiff files. I would like to see if anyone has 
>a program which can convert tiff file into gif file so that not only I can
>send these pictures to the ftp sites for all of you to see/watch but I can
>also see it thru the workstations.

>     Thanks a lot. Your help will be deeply appreciated.

>Robert Chong

I'd suggest the following public domain software for Windows 3.x that you
will find it useful for your purpose:

WINJP120.ZIP

It's a viewer which supports many popular picture formats including TIF.
You can load your TIF picture and then save it as GIF. You may need to
convert your 24-bit colour TIF picture to an indexed 8-bit colour picture
first in order to save it as GIF.

You can find it in many well known ftp sites such as wuarchive.wustl.edu.

Alan of HKPGCS.

p.s.: Next time please post your IBM software requests to
      comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted. You'll probably get more responses
      from there. Thank you.
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From: ko@teecs.UUCP (Sam Ko)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 13:19:46 GMT
Subject: Re: Olympics videos
Organization: Litton Systems, Toronto ONT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong

I need this information too....

Thank you !!!!!!!
From: al@XAIT.Xerox.COM (Al Fung [Xdom Contractor])
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Chinese history (was: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japan)
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:52:46 GMT
Reply-To: al@XAIT.Xerox.COM (Al Fung)
Organization: Xerox Advanced Information Technology, Cambridge, MA

>Recalling my Chinese history class, China has never been succeeded in 
>invading Japan. There were several attempt to do so though but most 
>often they were stopped by typhoons during their way. Furthermore,
>China has never been strong in their navy at all. 
>
>
>-Raymond Choy-

Don't forget that in the Ming Dynasty, a favorite eunuch of the Ming Court,
Cheng Wor (in Cantonese) was appointed the Admiral of the Ocean Seas and 
led a contingent of naval vessels down the "Eastern Oceans". The purpose of
the expedition was to show off the naval might of the "Celestrial Empire".
By all accounts, it was an awesome display of military power and a tour de
force of chinese technological and maritime achievements.
 
They went as far as the Persian Gulf. Mid-way into navigating around the 
African continent, Cheng was suddently and mysteriously recalled and 
subsequently dismissed. I believe this sad event was the watershed that
marked the beginning of the decline of the "Celestrial Empire".

Also, it is worth noting that unlike the Spanish Conqestors, Cheng's naval 
contingent never seeked to conquor nor to subjugate the inhabitants of the 
foreign lands they visited.

Wouldn't it be nice if he can go all the way to the American Continent? I
think the indigenous people would probably be better off :).

Regards,

Al Fung
SoftFab International Ltd.,
One Kendall Square, Suite 2200, Cambridge, MA 02139.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mok@fortsc.enet.dec.com (Charles Mok)
Subject: Re: Hong Kong athletes in olympics
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 13 AUG 92 10:34:02 PST


In article <77546@ut-emx.uucp>, onlit@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (K2-2nd on Earth) writes...
>I tried to find out if HK had won any medals.  The paper I read (Vancouver Sun)
>didn't list countries with less than 2 medals!  

No, they won nothing.  They never won anything in fact.  I will post a followup
report/analysis off of SCMP.

Charles

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: fung@hercules.cs.uregina.ca (.... B S ....)
Subject: Re: Immigration
Keywords: USA, Canada, Australia
Reply-To: fung@hercules.uregina.ca (.... B S ....)
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Saskatchewan
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 16:00:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.045815.787@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mme@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mann Me) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.212857.17618@ttinews.tti.com> yao@perform1.tti.com (Yuhan Yao) writes:
>
>Ya it is sad but how will it ever improve if all the good ones leave!
>Maybe in the short run it looks like these countries are better off
>but if you have been observing the developments in the Asia-Pacific
>region, you may think a little harder.  That region could be the
>region of prosperity and importance in the next century!  Look at the
>"tigers" or mini dragons!  And look at the feverish development in
>southern China.  While the present Chinese government has done some
>stupid things but I think they are also doing some very good things.
>Perhaps they have been more cautious in their approach to large dose
>of capitalism, IMHO it may be a good approach to avoid the sudden
>collapse like the former USSR. Have a vision for your country!
>
>
>The grass always seems greener on the other side 8).
>
>
>
>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>Me Han Mann        %  
>mme@nyx.cs.du.edu  %

I am also very agree!!
Lewis.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: bus753mb2@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au
Subject: <None>
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 02:38:34 GMT
From: wkau+@cs.cmu.edu (Wing Keung F Au)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re:  Premarrital sex, daemon, and law
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:42:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bt9BAK.KGr.2
Distribution: usa
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Aug14.004024.23136@cco.caltech.edu> chiu@sampson.ccsf.caltech.edu (John Chiu) writes:
> ...
>Someone still hanging to seek a pure love,

another desperate personals ad from los angeles - hi john, come to the
big apple - sorry, should post to alt.personals.

-- 

				    FRed W. Au
				    ...!cmu.edu!au+, au+@cmu.edu
From: onlit@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (K2-2nd on Earth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Hong Kong athletes in olympics
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:22:40 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Aug7.214350.28936@Princeton.EDU> karchang@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Kar Man Chang) writes:
>Can anyone please tell me how the female table tennis players (Chai Po
>Wa and Chan Tan Lui) did in the olympic games?  Prior to the games
>they were supposed to have the best chances to win the first ever
>medals for Hong Kong.  I know that they didn't win any medals, but
>how far did they get in the competition?

I don't know how far they went.  If they had won any medals, they would not
have been the first ever.  In the 84 Olympics, Lee Hoong Jing won a Bronce
medal in Men's Springboard Diving.  He is now teaching diving here in U of 
Texas.

A follow-up on two earlier postings.

I saw HK Athletes compete in canoeing/kayaking and heard that some were in
windsurfing.

I tried to find out if HK had won any medals.  The paper I read (Vancouver Sun)
didn't list countries with less than 2 medals!  
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|      Lee, On-Lit Andrew          |               - Motto of Outward Bound 
|                                  | 
|  email: onlit@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu |  "Your disability is your opportunity"
|  University of Texas at Austin   |               - Kurt Hahn,  
+----------------------------------+                 Founder of Outward Bound 
Xref: sparky soc.culture.hongkong:9765 soc.culture.china:22890 soc.culture.taiwan:11822
From: wai@cs.uq.oz.au (Wai Chow)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: chinese chess for windows
Summary: chinese chess for windows - Anyone got it?
Date: 14 Aug 92 02:36:17 GMT
Reply-To: wai@cs.uq.oz.au
Followup-To: soc.culture.hongkong

Does anyone have chinese chess for windows?
Or can one get it from a ftp site or somewhere like that?

Thanks for any helps!


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: chanwa@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: Re: TEST, but a joke inside!
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 04:15:11 GMT

In article <9223317.19806@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, ibm01@acci.com.au (William Lo - Elvis? Why not?) writes:
> Here's the joke promised,
> 
> A couple of seconds ago, an absolute idiot on his/her absolutely idiotic
> net machine had happened to see a news item titled "TEST, but a joke inside"
> which he/she thought was one too totally kool to miss. He/she is now looking at
> that absolutely idiotic news, looks absolutely idiotic, possibly smiling. Guys,
							  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You bet!  I was smiling because I like to enjoy life.
		
> say hello to that absolute idiot won't you?
> 
> ---Well, I'm an absolutely idiotic, too, I regret that,
> 	Bill(just a test - jesus, how come my last post wasn't got off?)