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From: sasmjw@laverda.unx.sas.com (Martyn J. Wheeler)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Bicycles & liability insurance
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:56:47 GMT
    <1992Apr9.153247.10090@uunet.uu.net!trintex>
Reply-To: sasmjw@unx.sas.com
Followup-To: rec.bicycles
Organization: SAS Institute Inc. Cary NC
Originator: sasmjw@laverda.unx.sas.com
X-Bytes: 828

In article <1992Apr9.153247.10090@uunet.uu.net!trintex>, elr@uunet.uu.net!trintex (Unix Guru-in-Training) writes:
>Maybe my understanding of the word "dent" is wrong, but if the damage
>is just a "dent" why fix it at all?  He could have saved 550 bucks
>and driven around with a car less likely to get ripped off.

Maybe my understanding of the word "Newsgroups" is wrong, but if the post
is just on "bicycles" why cross-post it at all?  He could have saved bandwidth
and posted around with a user-id less likely to get flamed.

:-)

-- 
Martyn
-------------sasmjw@unx.sas.com----(Martyn J. Wheeler)----DoD #293------------
SAS Institute, Inc: (919) 677-8000 ext.7954    H: (919) 839-0092 (Raleigh, NC)
          "If you spin, you deserve to die" -- Mike Hawthorn
       "I love competition, but I hate conflict" -- Alain Prost
From: glock@glock.chip.cba.ufl.edu (Joe Granto (BACL))
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Nighthawk S gas tank
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:18:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: glock.glock.8
Organization: College of Business, University of Florida

I have a Nighthawk S, and have been running into a recurrent problem with 
the gas tank: it has rusted through in some places.  I have been told that 
due to the thinness of the metal, it is very difficult to weld.  So, the 
place I took it to has used acid core solder to patch it up.  However, it 
looks like there are more hold than originally thought...


Anyone have any good ideas?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Subject: Aged Ambrosia Rev.3
Reply-To: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:02:20 GMT

The following article is a repost of an article gleaned from
the unofficial rec.motorcycle archives.  If I can continue to
find the time, I will periodically repost other "Aged Ambrosia"
to this newsgroup.

This particular article is just a nibble of the quality that I
hope to put forth, and I hope the readers of rec.motorcycles may
be inspired to contribute similar material.

************************************************************
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: ABS FJ1200
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:55:24 GMT

It occured to me that after all the hype on the ABS FJ1200 several
months back, I haven't heard a peep about it lately. Has anyone bought
the '92 (US) or '91 (Europe) FJ1200 with the anti-lock brakes option?
How's it work? Or if nobody on the net actually owns one, have you seen
one anywhere? Do they actually exist? Or was it a publicity stunt by
Yamaha? :-)

And how about the Honda ST1100 with the mysterious ABS/TCS system?
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
DoD #46               My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.              FJ1200
From: harmons@.WV.TEK.COM (Harmon Sommer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What's a poker run?
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:11:17 GMT

Reply-To: harmons@mithril.WV.TEK.COM (Harmon Sommer)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: /usr/ens/etc/organization
Keywords: 


>============================================================================
>		Roy Rogers was Trigger happy

Roy Rogers had the first "Trigger" stuffed and mounted after the horse
died. That is why Dale Evans says she doesn't want to die before Roy.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tale@ten.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Subject: Re: NEED INFO...Honda CB750
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 05:52:35 GMT

In <ql3sgINN34c@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> dcarter@supra.East.Sun.COM
(Dave Carter-Sun-Atlanta GA-Atlanta District MCC) writes:

>    1. Is 27k miles high for a 10 year old bike? It runs great, and
> being less than 3k a year I felt that was low.

I'm backlogged quite a bit on this group but didn't see any followups
in the couple of days after it was posted.  What did other people say
about this?  I feel that number is ridiculously low.  I have nearly
that much on my Katana 1100 in its first year, and it took over a
month leave of absence on me. :-( I realise this is of course
non-standard, and my four year old GS700 has a mere 30 000.  But
still, 27k just isn't that many miles.

> I also may need to sell it because the Condos I live in don't allow bikes,

Bleah.  My lease for my house had a similar clause, but I demonstrated
to the landlady that I was a responsible young man who didn't have
straight pipes or a race exhaust.  When I moved out last month she
commented on how she never allowed bikes after a bad experience, but
after having me around for a year she was removing that clause up
front.  Glad I could make a good impression.
From: ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter A. Simon)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: leaking oil
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:26:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.cdu83_G00WBN42FXE=
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Here's the deal:  My Savage is leaking oil from the top end.  My
understanding is that there are a couple of gaskets or seals that have
to be replaced.  Tightening things doesn't help.  It doesn't leak a lot,
just enough to look really messy.

Question:  Can I let it go?  Do the leaks relieve sufficient pressure so
it won't get worse?  Is the oil that is getting out depriving some
critical components of lubrication?

Any motorcycle Edgar Casey's out there, please respond.

Peter
From: meb4593@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com (Michael Bain)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: No centerstand? (was: Re: Yamaha Seca II)
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:30:58 GMT
Organization: Boeing Commercial Airplane Group, Seattle

frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Frank Ball) writes:
>
>I think the center stand is available as an option.  As for lights, I think
>Yamaha blew it when they got rid of the dual headlights in the FZRs.  I 
>feel much more comfortable 100 miles from home at night with *two* 
>headlights.  Am I paranoid?  I can always carry a spare, but when the light
>blinks out at 70 mph it can be interesting.

I like the looks of the dual headlights, but remember that they make
great radar reflectors, for those of us that worry about such things.

My speeds at night are usually quite socially acceptable.  The spare I
carry is enough peace of mind for me.

Besides, isn't it usually just one of the filaments that burn out, so
that you could easily flick the light switch to the other beam?

-- 
Michael "Poppa" Bain                                    (206) 234-6942
Boeing Commercial Airplane Group       meb4593@icdfs.rtn.ca.boeing.com
FJ1200 Pilot for Team Calamari       DOD# 757              AMA# 565985
  "If everything is coming your way, then you're in the wrong lane."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: RE: CHAIN VS BELT VS SHAF
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 10 Apr 92 08:50:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

-> Impressive, but the other half of the question is how long the belts
-> last under that kind of stress. Do any bikes on the national drag
-> race circuit use belt drive?

 I dunno about now, but they sure used to, both for primary and
secondary drive.  Remember Russ Collins' "Atchison, Topeka, and Santa
Fe" Honda triple?  Back when the cagers were experimenting with
sidewinder engines, Summers Bros and Garlits built 1000hp rails with
belt drive.
                                                           
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: ABS FJ1200
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 02:53:03 GMT

dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)  writes:
> The FJ down at the local Yamaha shop says '92 on the tag, but the thing
>looks like it has the plain old wimpy FZR brakes they Frankensteined
>onto it a few years ago.  Why anyone would want those wimp stoppers
>instead of the original FJ radially-vented rotors is beyond me.  Maybe
>the FZR-look stuff is cheaper to make.

You mean those wimpy brakes with the larger diameter disc, and four
piston calipers? :-) The radially-vented rotors look neat, but you'll
have a hard time convincing me that the old brakes are better. The rear
is still the old brakes, if that helps any. From the pictures, the brakes
on both the standard & ABS models look pretty much the same, but the hubs
on the wheels are much larger, and you can see the teeth for the wheel
sensors. Oh, and it says "ABS" on the side too. :-)

>-> one anywhere? Do they actually exist? Or was it a publicity stunt by
>-> Yamaha? :-)

I've had a number of e-mail reports of FJ-ABS sightings (though mostly
on showroom floors), and Georg Edelmann in Germany bought one last year.
(Georg, unless you're really nobody@kodak.com, your message arrived with
a bogus return address, and I can't reach you by e-mail. Please try
again.)

> If they exist, I'm still unconvinced ABS is worth much on a
>two-wheeler.  Did you catch the flamefest in BIX'
>technology/transportation topic a few months ago?

Catch it? I think I started it. :-)

> Grab a big handful of brake in a corner, and you're going DOWN, ABS or
>not.

Yep, that was one of my reservations about ABS for bikes. I know that
it's an inherent limitation of the simple lock-unlock-lock-unlock
systems that Yamaha & BMW use. But I'd still like to see some ideal
system that works under all conditions. If you're going to tell me that
it can't be built, why don't you mention that to Honda too, and see how
long it takes them to get it to market. :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
DoD #46               My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.              FJ1200
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Re: What do we call Harleys?
Keywords: my 2bits
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:21:13 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.130254.23071@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.014117.21470@serval.net.wsu.edu> bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>>
>>simple, you call Harley's "motorsickles"
>
>Ah, yes.  The Grim Reaper enters the Industrial Age.
>
>

The answer should be based on the products that Harley makes and
has made in recent years.  For example,
  Holiday Rambler Travel Trailers
  Cruise missile nose cones
  Bowling Pin machines
Any of these could be perverted into a number of interesting
names.


--
(804)-924-8607                   Michael L. Johnson
mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU   Pharmacology Dept.
mlj8e@Virginia.BITNET            Box 448; Univ. of Va.  
mlj8e@Virginia.EDU               Charlottesville, Va. 22908
From: davide@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Dave Edmondson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: chain vs belt vs shaft drive
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:06:29 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

In <9426@wrgate.wr.tek.com> chrisp@tatanka.wr.tek.com (Chris Perez) writes:

>In article <769@shaman.wv.tek.com> davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com writes:
>>
>>Now, can anyone explain how the paralever minimizes shaft jacking?

>Yes.  A very great many bux thrown at the public by the marketing folks
>in the form of advertising.  8-)

Foul, 30 yds for introducing reality to motofizzics.

--
David Edmondson                 davide@dcs.qmw.ac.uk
Queen Mary & Westfield College  DoD#0777 Guzzi Le Mans 1000
"Eccles never keeps his boots in his pocket."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston)
Subject: Re: CX500..what the hell
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 18:42:46 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University

In article <1992Apr7.134624.8181@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>. . . and the CX is the answer to the
>question "why can't pushrod engines spin fast?"
>--
9k rpm is fast enough for most of the riding I do.

Chas

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: scw54193@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nsane)
Subject: Re: A new clipless pedal i saw at the local bikeshop
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:00:42 GMT

I don't think this is rec.bicycles
It is rec.motorcycles
so unless you have a engine on your bicycle
this is the wrong group

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: eparker@advansoft.COM (Eric Parker)
Subject: Re: What do we call Harleys?
Organization: Advansoft Research Corp, Santa Clara, CA
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1992 16:01:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.174603.19971@bwdls61.bnr.ca> space@bwdlh522.bnr.ca (Scott Pace) writes:
>
>Japanese bikes are called "rice burners", Italian bikes are called "pasta
>burners", so what do we call American bikes (Harleys)?

Corn-burners seems appropriate. It is large American food crop. A fermented
and distilled version of it is consumed by many southern Harley riders.
You could probably even run a Harley on it. Then it would be a _real_
corn-burner.

eric
-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-            Eric Parker               Advansoft Research Corporation
-            UUCP: arc!eparker         Telephone: 408-727-3357x257
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From: rja@batcomfs.Eng.Sun.COM (Ninja Squirrel Master)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Yes Mister PoliceMan, No Mister PoliceMan...
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:25:24 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: batcomfs

In article <QdsRVAG00Uh7M2oSgn@andrew.cmu.edu> cl3d+@andrew.cmu.edu (Carl D. Lovejoy) writes:
>
>    This is TOO weird. I am not this lucky, but I can say that if you
>are absolutely polite and follow the same procedure that I did once you
>are stopped I think that anybody has a reasonable chance to avoid a
>ticket.  That is unless it happens to be a State cop, which here in PA.
>will never let you off.  

    The two times I've been let off, I was police, reasonably honest as
    to my speed, and made no excuses.  In addition, I had absolutely
    no fear of getting a ticket, since I figured it was a foregone con-
    clusion that I was going to get one.  Maybe cops are like dogs...
    they can sense fear :-).

>    I have never said more then a few sentences to the guys that have
>left me off.  I think the cop pretty much decides before he gets out of
>the car, providing your are not a jerk, whether or not he is going to
>let you off with a warning, and feel that no amount of "talking" will
>avail.  Just conunting my blessings now, and begining to realise that
>maybey I am not going to be able to do this too much longer in my town; 
>I am starting to run out of cops who have not pulled me over!

    A cop I knew said he was already writing the ticket as he approached
    the vehicle.
--
    Robert Allen, rja@sun.com		DISCLAIMER: I said it, not my company.

    "Traditionalists often study what is taught, not what there is to create."
			     - Ed Parker, Grandmaster, American Kenpo.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cookson@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (Dean Cookson)
Subject: Re: O.K., HOW ABOUT DOD MOUSE
X-Post-Machine: victoria.scl.cwru.edu
Organization: Smith Undergrad Lab, CWRU, Cleve. OH
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 22:44:31 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.175329.20280@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> ttmech@convx1.lerc.nasa.gov (Paul Mech) writes:
>In article <1992Apr16.160902.7043@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>>
>>True, Real Men (tm) use trackballs.
>
>No, Real Men (tm) use the arrow keys.  None of these sissy interfaces!
>
No, Real Men (tm) know which way h j k l move the cursor.  None of these
silly arrows.

Dean

--
| Dean Cookson / DoD #207        / "You don't make beer, you get everything  |
| Case Western Reserve University   / together as best you can, and let the  |
| Dept. of Computer E. and Science     / beer make itself"  -- Fritz Maytag  |
| Cleveland, Oh. 44106 / (216) 754-1834   / '81 CB750C / '88 Bianchi Limited |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mwallace@isis.cs.du.edu (Mark Wallace)
Subject: Re: Shop manual for FJ1200?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 14:29:15 GMT

blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

>jwills@ISI.EDU (Jerry Wills) writes:
>>	My factory manual for the 89 is missing/blank pages, in the changes
>>	for the 89 model year. I think its page 2-3, or 3-4. check yours and
>>	tell me if it just my luck, or not. Its the last section.

>1989, that would make it the FJ1200W(C), right? Page 1 is ID info, page
>2 & 3 are general specs, pages 4 & 5 are maintenance specs. No missing
>pages that I can see.
>-- 

   Mine either, but I just got it.  

Mark Wallace, Castle Rock CO
From: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Subject: Aged Ambrosia Rev.2
Reply-To: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:13:46 GMT

The following articles are reposts of articles gleaned from
the unofficial rec.motorcycle archives.  If I can continue to
find the time, I will periodically repost other "Aged Ambrosia"
to this newsgroup.

These particular articles are just a nibble of the quality that I
hope to put forth, and I hope the readers of rec.motorcycles may
be inspired to contribute similar material.

***********************************************************

[ I use this first article to "set the stage" for the second included 
  article.  Note the reference to "tree grabbing" within "Ancedote 3".
  I have liberally deleted and synopsized several passages.  If you 
  would prefer I repost this first article without such editorial
  exercises, ask and I will do so. ]

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From: brucer@drutx.ATT.COM (RobinsonB)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Front brake wheelie control and heat.
Summary: Preparing for 1992 summer olympics
Date: 8 May 89 17:19:28 GMT
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

In article <4212@druco.ATT.COM>, tbb@druco.ATT.COM (Tom Barber) writes:
>In article <18645@gatech.edu>, daves@pravda.gatech.edu (Dave Smith) writes:
>>In article <20393@joyce.istc.sri.com> 
>>henry@coco0.istc.sri.com.UUCP (Henry Pasternack) writes:
>>>   ... [ stuff about heat ] ...
> 
>I can see it now.  Riding down a steep hill at 50 mph, on a YSR50, Bruce
>"Tree Catcher" Robinson grabs the front brake hard.  The rear wheel lifts
>a couple of feet in the air, and then, with the rear wheel still spinning 
>very fast, Tree Catcher puts all of his weight on the rear brake pedal,
>abruptly stopping the rear wheel, imparting lots of angular momentum to
>the bike, and, well, look out spectators, he's coming through!  :-)

I visualize a 1992 summer olympics demonstration event:

	Down the slope, up the jump and airborne, gently feathering
	the throttles and brakes to keep pitch attitude correct; at the
	apex  of the jump, roll on front and rear throttles, thereby pitching
	the bike into a back spin.  Then turn the bars hard right and apply
	the front brake firmly, initiating a clock-wise turn around
	the roll axis.

	Degree of difficulty is six, trying for a triple somersault with
	a double gainer.

	As the slope below rapidly approaches, roll off the rear throttle,
	straighten the front wheel and apply both sets of brakes, countering
	the back spin; gently roll on the throttle again to synchronize
	wheel speed with ground speed and keep nose pitched up slightly with
	respect to the slope, simultaneously turn the bars hard left and
	apply the front brake gently, stopping the roll-axis motion, but
	keeping some spin on the front wheel for touchdown.

	A perfect landing, arms and legs nearly straight in flying V
	configuration, back wheel touching down slightly ahead of front,
	neither wheel kicking up any dust as they are spinning in perfect
	synch with ground speed; broad-slide into the finish circle,
	triple-donut to a standing ovation, and exit.

		6.0 US
		5.9 Japan
		5.8 Germany
		5.2 Soviet Union
		5.6 Great Britain
		5.7 Italy

	Putting US in second place behind Sesu NukiNuki of Japan.
	What a day for the US motobatics team!!!


     66
      >
      ^  ...................... brucer
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Steve Garnier - 1979 Yamaha XS1100SF Special with 156,000 miles and *climbing*
DoD #00000005 - KotF (The Daemon's Byte and Keeper of the Flame), NC Chapter
Internet:steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu  UUCP:{?,gatech,uunet}!mcnc!bucolix!steve
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: the origin of paved roads... bicycles?
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:25:36 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Tuesday April 07 1992, Donald A. Varvel writes to All:

 DAV> 1. The first paved roads in this country were built for
 DAV>    bicycles at the urging of a bicyclists' lobbying group,
 DAV>    the League of American Wheelmen.  This paved the way,
 DAV>    so to speak, for automobiles and motorcycles.  This has
 DAV>    been alluded to several times by several people in this
 DAV>    thread, including Les Earnest and me.  Saying it ain't
 DAV>    so won't change the fact.

Yes, but the next 80 years and 1 trillion dollars worth of hard surface
construction was for motorized vehicles and the interstate transportation
and defense road network. Many of the existing hard surface roads in this
country run right on top of the paths taken by settlers as they moved across
the country. Still more reflect the dirt lanes of city-to-city routes. Even
more are laid down on old routes taken from farm/ranch to market.

There might be a handful of roads in this country that first got a hard
surface for bicycles, but all the rest were built to serve commerce and
government needs for the use of gasoline-engined vehicles. The motorcycle
and car developed very much side by side, and took advantage of the new
paved road. The use of bicycles, which had been very widespread because
it was cheaper and cleaner than a horse, became less as income rose and
the price of cars/motorcycles became reasonable. As the size of cities
rose, and the growth of urban areas surrounding them, the bicycle became
impractical for all but very short un-loaded distances.

I once road my bicycle 10 miles each way to get to and from the Army post
I was stationed at. I didn't own a car, and my motorcycle was being repaired.
As soon as I got ma moto back, the bicycle went back to being an occasional
relaxation/exercise vehicle. Arriving at Battalion assembly (I was the
XO) with sweat showing on starched fatigues was hardly fitting when I
brought the unit to attention and turned it over to the CO.

John

--- GoldED 2.32.B0212+
--  
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DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: RE: WHAT TO CALL A HARLEY
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 16 Apr 92 10:16:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

-> > Now, if Buell put one of their two stroke fours into a street
-> chassis >and sold it, their credentials would be unquestionable.

> Erik Buell MAKES a two-stroke four?  I know he makes (or used to)
> pipes for RZ/RD500 Yamahas, is he now making his own bikes?

 Some years ago, Buell built water cooled, 500cc, two stroke fours
for GP racing.  Engines only - they sold them to privateers who did
their own chassis.  I don't follow GP any more, so I don't know if Buell
still makes them or not.
            
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