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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: question #6 answered (was Re: Stupid Questions)
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 05:58:20 GMT

cbrother@afit.af.mil (Charles P. Brothers Jr) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.142556.594@halfdome.sf.ca.us> bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>>In article <1afidjINN35f@cs.utexas.edu>, osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes:

>>> 6.  What was the ugliest motorcycle ever produced?  (New, not ratted out.)
>>
>>has to be the FJ. that's why they cover it up with all that plastic.

>An obviously feeble attempt to start a flame war, even I won't
>bite on this one.

Well, if you won't, I guess I'll have to. :-)  Just mention the word
"bumblebee" a few times and see how long it is before bob says "But I'm
gonna get those yellow legs powder-coated black, really, I am! The G/S
isn't a ugly bike, not after you strip off all the factory trim, and
half the paint."

Right bob?

BTW, since the FJ flaunts its engine out in the open, by (bob's)
definition it cannot be ugly. On the other hand, have you ever seen a
CBR1000 or an ST1100 stripped of its shrinkwrap? That's what I call
ugly!
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: Newbie needs advice/Pop-Tarts
Reply-To: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 11:33:48 GMT

Frosted Dutch Apple right out of the toaster oven with
a scoop or two of Dutch Chocolate Ice Cream (that way
you get all your days calories in one meal)
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                 and TARGETS !!!
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#include <std.disclaimer> My opinions are my own!!!
I Don't shop in malls, I by my jeans, jackets and ammo
in the same store.
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Drilling my own discs
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:08:07 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Johnny Roberts (johnny@ennex3.eng.utsa.edu) wrote:
: 	As strange as it may seem, braking power is not primarily a  
: function of the contact area between the pads and the rotor. The most  
: important factor by far is the diameter of the disc or drum, with a larger  
: diameter allowing for more braking power. 
:
Doesn't seem too strange.  Leverage plays an important part.  In other
words if the pads acted on the rim of the wheel the braking power would
be very good.  Bicycle brakes anyone? :-) 

What most folks seem to forget is that drilling the discs was orignally
done to lighten the unsprung weight.  Other benefits may have become
the main reason lately, but reducing weight was the reason the racers
did it first.
--

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* Bill Ranck                                          ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu *
* DoD #496  Bikes past and present: CB175, CB550F, Norton 750, CB350F, XV535  *
*******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: matth@progress.COM (Matthew J. Harper)
Subject: Re: snapped off bolt
Keywords: fucked myself good
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:00:37 GMT

spgo@is.morgan.com (Stefan Goellner) writes:


>In the process of removing it, I have snapped off one of the studs for bolting
>the headers to the engine. What is the standard procedure for removing such an
>animal without major destruction?????????????


  I ain't nevuh' done this sort o' thang on a bike, but I betcha' it;l work
for ya'...

  Drill a hole in the offending broken stud.  Then use your ever trusty 
"extract a broken stud" extractor tool to get it out?

  What's that, you have no idea what I'm taking about?

  The afore mentiond tool has a *left* handed thread on it.  As such, when you
screw it (!) into the hole you drilled in the broken stud , it *unscrews* it
as you screw it in!

  There's a joke here about a tool to unscrew broken studs once you've drilled
'em, but I;ll be damned if I can figure it out! :-)

-Matth

PS:  Most places that sell tools carry these things, including (gasp) Sears and
most (preferably) hardware stores.

  best of luck!

  (Yes, I have had to use one of the beasts...)


--
          Matthew J. Harper ! Progress Software Corp. ! {disclaimer.i}         
   God created heaven and earth to grow barley and hops. Now he homebrews !-)  
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston)
Subject: Re: Helmet Buffeting
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 13:54:34 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University

In article <1992Oct1.203958.7112@ccu.umanitoba.ca> klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:
>2.
>  When my SO and I go for high speed cruises we get some awesome helmet
>buffeting happening. Last night she actually had my head
>rocking from side to side as a result of her moving her helmet
>around in my helmets slipstream. . .
>It's very annoying to her and I wonder if anyone has come up
>with a solution (other than slow down) for this.
>
When my SO gets turbulence from me she backs off a few yards or rides her bike
past me.

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: 43wendel@cua.edu
Subject: Yamaha start problems
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Summary: XS400 problems
Keywords: Yamaha
Reply-To: 43wendel@cua.edu
Organization: The Catholic University of America
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 05:32:29 GMT

	I have a 81 Yamaha XS400 and have trouble starting it.  After it sits
for about two hours it wont start when I try the kick starter.  To make it
start, I put it in gear and push it.  After a few times of doing this it
starts.  This is my first bike and if anyone has any information it would be
greatly appreciated.  I am not sure of my E-mail address but I always read the
postings to rec.motorcycles
				Thanks
From: jeff@ieor-next1.Berkeley.EDU (Jeff Louie)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Suzuki Dealers in Canada
Date: 28 Sep 1992 19:22:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: leerdam.berkeley.edu


Does anyone know of a reputable Suzuki dealership in Canada?  I am looking
for some specific parts found on Canadian model GSXR's not found on US
models.  

Please mail replies, as I don't frequent rec.moto all that often.

Thanks,

Jeff Louie
jeff@motorrad.Berkeley.EDU
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: starting problem
Keywords: damdifino'
Date: 1 Oct 92 02:12:04 GMT
Organization: Washington State University

In article <69482@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt1430a@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeff J McCoskey) writes:
>
>	I find that after a long break, a little starter fluid sprayed into the
>air intake will typically get it to start right up.

When I was in undergraduate school at Michigan Tech I saw an interesting
event.  After a particularly cold cold snap, a student's car would not start.
He heard that a little ether in the carb would help.  He poured what we
later determined was about 100 cc down the carb and cranked her over.

I never in my wildest imaginings thought a hood could deform quite like 
that.  Weird.

Ride Free, but be careful with the ether,

Bill
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From: cantrell@seqp4.sequoia.com (Paul Cantrell)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Almost had it stolen tonite!
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:47:50 GMT
Organization: Sequoia Computer Systems

In article <LJB7WHQ@netmbx.netmbx.de>, fischer@netmbx.netmbx.de (Axel Fischer) writes:
> I would probably been scared alot at the sight of them getting out of the
> car. And than I would have opened the throttle and gas it. No one catches
> me on a bike, _no one_. Just ride thru cars, over the sidewalks, whatever
> to get rid of them.

Exactly. Get a few digits from the front license plate if you can, but
just a description is probably enough. As soon as someone gets out of
the car, it's time to go, fast. You don't want to stick around long
enough to find out what they really intend to do.

If you can't lose them within one block, turn in your DoD #. ;-)

Don't go home if you can avoid it. I think this was a mistake on the part
of the original poster (Dave Schlotthauer, I believe). You don't want them
to know where you live. Both for the sake of the bike (they may steal it
some other time), and for your own safety. Phone the police, and report
the car. I doubt the police are going to actually do anything since the
people did not commit a crime. But perhaps they're already wanted, or the
car is stolen. At least being pulled over may get them off the streets for
the night. Even if the police do nothing, this is still preferable to you
getting mugged, the bike being stolen, and the police explaining to you
how busy they are and how they can't drop everything just to search for a
stolen cycle which could be *anywhere* by now...

On the subject of evading, I personally believe in using speed and
acceleration for a very short distance only, then start taking turns
randomly. Don't stay on one road for more than a few seconds to a minute
or so. Keep taking turns. If you know the area, try to take turns that
don't lead you into a dead end situation. You want the number of roads to
choose from to be *expanding* the further you go, making it harder and
harder to guess which direction you went in. On a motorcycle, use the fact
that you can go off-road. Once you've made a couple turns out of sight of
the pursuing vehicle, find a secluded spot (or busy spot, depending on
the circumstances), and shut down. Make sure the lights are out. Force
yourself to wait long enough to insure that the searchers give up. Use
your watch; time will go by very slowly while you are scared. Finally,
don't go back in the direction you just came from. Take the long way home,
by a circuitous route.

Even though my ZX-10 can outrun almost any car, to do that I'm going to be
forced to run stop-signs and stop-lights to keep the speed up (or risk
being caught by someone willing to run them). It's just too dangerous to
keep that up for long periods of time.
-- 
                  THIS                  | Paul Cantrell "PC"
                  SPACE                 | cantrell@sequoia.com
              INTENTIONALLY             | DoD #1144
               LEFT BLANK               | HELO/ASEL/ZX10 Pilot
From: randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Ridiculous M/C Engine swaps (was Re: Faster 1100)
Date: 26 Sep 92 22:54:54 GMT
Reply-To: megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
Distribution: usa
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

In article <Bv5AuE.Lrz@tridom.com> alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming) writes:
|Motorcyclist has done a few write-ups (and one test ride) on a company called
|Boss Hog that makes small block Chevy 350 powered Harleys.  It uses a tranny
|and shaft.  It also has enough radiator to run normally.  Dunno about it being
|legal on the street, but I do remember that it was sheer hell in a straight
|line.  They sell as a kit or a complete bike.  I can look up details if you'd
|like.

  Let me pick a minor nit (I read the same article).  The bike is NOT a
"small block Chevy 350 powered *Harley*".  It is a small block Chevy 350
powered *motorcycle*.  Even a Harley handles much better than the V-8 bike,
which has *no* affiliation with Harley-Davidson.  I seem to remember some
reference in the article to them losing a battle to use the "Hog" name,
since Harley already has the rights to that name.  As I recall, it IS street
legal, has AWESOME torque, yet still a slower 1/4 mile than many other
stock bikes (no top end, and a tendancy to wheelie)??
 
  Am I right?  Did I remember the article wrong?

  Still a wild ride, no matter how you cut it...

Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: fuel/engine efficiency (was Re: More gasohol)
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 28 Sep 1992 21:04:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62003.student.cwru.edu

In article <1992Sep28.180337.24713@gecko.uucp>, ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed
Campbell) wrote:
> 
 
>      Whatever happened to Chrysler's gas turbine project? The last
> version made public produced more power than a piston engine, was
> said to be no more expensive to produce in quantity, got better
> fuel mileage, and would run on anything that pours and burns. Also,
> with the very low combustion pressure, it produced no NOx. They very
> publicly demonstrated its multifuel capacity by running it on old frying
> grease from a fastfood place. (Police cars could be run on grease from
> the doughnut shops!)
> 

Didn't they have a problem with the exhaust melting pavement at stop 
lights?

> Ed Campbell
> 

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci.  | KotNML  /  KotB      |
| "You can lead the house to order, but you     | '81 CB750C           |
| can't make it think"  -William Weld (Gov. Ma.)| '88 Bianchi Limited  |
From: tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Look at this! (was Re: Looking for a motorcycle)
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:24:00 GMT
Organization: Electric Armts Div, US Army ARDEC, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ

shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude) writes:
>In article <1992Sep28.212936.14682@pica.army.mil>, tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>) writes:
>> Hint, Mr. Makel" (Stafford is sometimes referred to as oldchop. Break that
>> into its constituent words and see what you get. Then apply it to HD. Then
>> slink on outta here with your tail up your ass, where it belongs.)
>
>Not so fast!  OLDCHOP 1) owns a BMW, 2) forgot about knuckleheads when
>reciting the various engine types, 3) hates Evo motors, 4) bad-mouthed
>sporties (admittedly a popular pastime for big twin riders) and his most
>heinous crime: 5) desecrated a panhead with a shovel top end!
>
>Figures that a fellow Beemer rider would spring to his defense.  Make that 
>item #6.  Sounds like gutter snipe to me...  
>
>- Roid

ZING! Another RUB sucker calls a BMW a "Beemer".

:-}
-- 
 
                tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: stupid people
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:40:58 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

mfisch@pdx064.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Matthew Fisch) writes:

>  I still maintain that the advantage that cars hold is downforce providing
>aerodynamics.  Please don't tell me about "wings" and "spoilers" on street 
>cars, I'm talking about the kind found on race cars, which actually do 
>something.  Given equal riders, that's where you'll find the cars beating
>the bikes, and then, only the more sophisticated ones.

	To verify this, compare the lap times of the fire-breathing 750's
and the 500cc sidecar rigs on a given track.  The hacks give the 750's
fits, especially on the corners.

<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"I see angels on Ariels in leather and>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | chrome, Swooping down from heaven to >
<viking@iastate.edu      | carry me home."   ---    R. Thompson >
<ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee.>
From: randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: car-to-bike jump start
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:12:18 GMT
Reply-To: megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

In article <9901023@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> vlj@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Victor Johnson) writes:
|   12 volts is 12 volts is 12 volts ... ad nauseum
|
|   Car -> Bike, OK.
|
|   Bike -> Car, maybe not.  Starter may draw current close to or beyond
|   the bike battery's operating limits.

  Well, its not quite THAT simple...

  Yes, twelve volts is just that - yet, a bike battery has a higher resistance
than a car battery, thus limiting the current flow in the charging system to
a lower value.

  A car electrical system can DRAW more current than the bike alternator/
rectifier/regulator can handle.  It is VERY IMPORTANT that you disconnect
the auto battery AS SOON as you get the bike started!  As soon as the bike
starts up, the bike's electrical system will try to charge the bike battery.
When the auto battery is tied across the bike battery, the bike will of
course try to charge the auto battery, also.  This is VERY BAD (tm).

  Now, since a car electrical system can deliver more current than the bike's
battery can, and the regulation and charging system of the bike cannot sink
the amount of current that the car can provide, I think it *is* recommended
that the car *not* be running when you jump from it.

  So, you use a car battery from a *non*-running car to get the bike started.
But, once the bike is started, the two batteries in parallel will be a higher
load (lower resistance, which means higher current flow must be provided by
the bike's alternator/rectifier/regulator to maintain the voltage) than the
bike charging system can handle.  This extra load that the car battery puts
on the bike charging system can blow or damage the VERY EXPENSIVE electrical
components of your bike charging system.  Voltage spikes can also damage the
bikes system.

  In many cases, the damage may not be immediately apparant, AND, some bikes
have a hefty electrical system which can handle the extra load for a few
moments.  BUT, if you are slow to remove the jump cables after the bike
fires up, don't be too surprised if you have something go bad in the bike's
electrical system in the near future.

  From experience, simple electrical theory, and stories from bike mechanics.

Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy
From: ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What to do with stupid cagers
Date: 4 Oct 1992 21:02:02 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu
Keywords: Harly, big knife

In a previous article, thorick@sybase.com (Thorick Chow) said:
:- 
:- sorry, I don't like jail...  plus that kind of behaviour could
:- result in Bad Carma  :-)
:- 

	whats a "bad carma"? does it have anything to do with cages?

	peace,

	- ravi

-- 
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sig (n): a piece of mail with a fool at one : Ravi Narayan - ravi@cs.wpi.edu
          end and flames at the other. (C).  :       Suzuki GS500E
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From: jn1h+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Robert Nadzam)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Hey, buy this!!!!!
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:44:47 GMT
	<QenwWOO00YUnIXpe0P@andrew.cmu.edu>
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

For sale one 90 amp powermate MIG welder. I know this isn't usually what
gets sold here on rec.moto. but I got a new even bigger welder. and I
have found this thing pretty usefull when working on bikes/cages so I
figured what the hell I'll post it here. 
 
welds from 26 gage steel to 1/4"
welds 26 gage alluminium to 3/8"+
Ground cable and clamp
finger trigger gun
Current 20 amps (runs off standarcd 110)
Duty Cycle 100%-20%
gun sheaths for both steel and aluminum welding
tanks NOT included
regulators ARE included
comes on own roll around cart

This is a very good beginers welder. With just some common sense and
about 1/2 hour practice time. a person can learn to MIG weld. This is a
very common size welder used in autobody shops as it can be used to weld
sheet together, and is continuous spool feed. All you need to start
welding is a mask and to rent a gas tank.

$275 or make me an offer
 you pay S&H weight ~130lbs.
e-mail or leave message (412)268-5493
 
NADZ
DoD#528
'It's not the sudden stops that hurt, it's the impact afterward.'
 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: noemi@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Noemi Berry)
Subject: Re: calling mature riders
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 21:42:11 GMT

>> 	NM (Next Motorcycle) countdown: $3000 left to go :-(

>	how come that figure hasnt gone down? or has it?
>	- ravi

heh heh -- dummy!  :-)  the key thing that changed about that
figure is the units.  notice it is no longer 3,000 miles
that stands between NB & NM, but 3,000 DOLLARS!!!

originally i wanted to wait until i had 5000 miles experience
before getting NM.  at 5000, i figured i wasn't done dropping
the kawi yet, and reset the countdown for 11,500 miles.

now, at 13000 miles (plus 2500 kilometers on a different bike)
it's TIME to replace the oil-greedy 305.  i'm ready to start
dropping NM instead!  :-)?  as soon as i am employed...

NM is everywhere, even in my NaMe,
NoeMi
*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
noemi@cs.ucla.edu (for now)     				KotSBL
DoD #443  						'82 KZ 305 CSR
	NM (Next Motorcycle) countdown: $3000 left to go :-(
*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: fuel/engine efficiency
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 06:58:04 GMT

In article <7536@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
>   If there were a better alternative to Saudi oil readily available
>then the technology would get out.  Look how successful we have been
>in preventing other countries in the world from figuring out how
>to build nuclear bombs.  That was a *very* closely guarded technology.
>
>: about, we're arguing about why we don't have hydrogen powered 
>: motorcycles.  i say its because advances in technology are being held 
>: back by the oil and internal combustion machine mfgs.
>
>We don't have hydrogen powered motorcycles because they aren't currently
>practical as replacements for gasoline engined equivilents.
>

Practical?  WHO SAID PRACTICAL COUNTS?  Sheesh!!

This ought to go right along with the thread about the guy who had his 
first bike as a Japanese HWXK 1100 (or something-or-other), and wanted
to make it go faster to impress the guy with the Japanese 1400cc doing 
burnouts in the driveway across the street.  A hydrogen (bomb) powered
motorcycle would put them both to shame.  With a vorgon vortex blaster
shield to guide the thrust, nothing would touch this!


Charlie Smith    csmith@dsac.dla.mil  charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers# 411, BK Ohio V 
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff. 
             {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }

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