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From: mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil (Michael Hart)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: BDI On Board
Date: 30 Jul 92 01:50:45 GMT

In <1992Jul29.171059.23606@umbc3.umbc.edu> potler@umbc4.umbc.edu (Laura Potler (GSFC)) writes:
>>
>>Hey, Michael, Laura, Joy...  you wanna do lunch?  =)
>>

Sounds good to me.  Let's see, a proper peever lunch should run
from around 1130 till about oh, 730 or so?  Probably 3 different
orders of appies spaced as needed (roundabout 1200, 230, 530), and
more LI Iced Teas than should be human possible!

>good idea! i never did get to get together with michael. we could have
>a peevefest east! :) anybody else up for it?

Hey, I've been offering to have a peevecon east for any interested
parties, but it's never come off.  Maybe a 'peevefest' will do 
better?

>peeve: letting invitations for fun things slide when i should be 
>taking folks up on them.

Yeah, I suppose we all do this; I know I do.  You know what the 
problem is?  Life gets in the way of fun.

>antipeeve: maybe this one will come to pass. :)

Speaking of antipeeves, I have a major, Major, MAJOR one that 
will soon come to pass: I'll be finishing my degree RSN (real soon
now)!  No, really!  Not that I'm counting or anything, but 
nine, count 'em, nine class meetings left (that alone makes me
a single digit midget!), two papers (one of which is already 
written), one quiz, a midterm, and two finals.  Not that I'm 
counting.


Peeve: I'm pretty occupied at work (phew! almost said happy there
for a minute!), so I haven't been keeping up on my peevemates.
I'll try to do better.  Do I have to go sit in the corner of 
Peevetown now?

AntiPeeve: Reading my first peevepost in over a week, any finding
out that I've (sorta) been invited to lunch!  Hey, could be worse!

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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy)
Subject: Re: Newbie Alert!
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 14:43:28 GMT
Organization: A Suffusion of Yellow

In article <92210.194707JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu>, JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu (Jenni Sheehey) writes:
|> sac@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu says:
|> >
|> >I almost hesitate to respond to this infantile attempt at peeving. It sounds
|> >like jenni's little 9 year old bro got a hold of her passcode while visiting
|> >her at the dorm.
|> Peeve: being held responsible for all 1000+ people on PSUVM.

Jenni, Jenni! Calm down.  I saw nothing in the above paragraph that even
mentioned PSUVM.  Not that I particularly feel the need to defend Mr. sac
at all, but it seems that you're just a bit touchy about the whole subject,
and this seems totally out of character for you.  Maybe you've been keeping
your "Joy" persona locked up for too long.  The statement was simply made
that the attempt at peeving was on the level of a 9-year-old.  I didn't
even notice that the initial poster was from psuvm. I just thought that your
brother was a convenient little person reference.

|> >By the way, does anyone else have the sense that jenni is the "Dan Quayle"
|> >of alt,peeves... or is it just me.
|> Well, if you mean that as: "A person who, for some reason (Me: being
|> from PSUVM, DQ: being generally not too bright) ends up being a target
|> for unimaginative people who take parts of what they say out of context
|> and ridicule them regardless of the merit of the ideas behind them,"
|> I guess I can see the parallel.

Now THIS is much more like you, Jenni.  Calmly, gently, smoothly, perform
an appendectomy with a warm spoon and then beat him about the head and
shoulders with the removed body part.  The Dan Quayle comment was totally
uncalled-for (not that I feel the need to defend *you*, either).

|> Peeve: People who don't consider anything *but* the source.

Peeve: Mood swings.  What exactly is that supposed to be indicative of?

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|cochran@dg-rtp.dg.com                             |
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From: scott@festival.ed.ac.uk (Scott Larnach)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Diurnal Damage
Date: 31 Jul 92 12:52:35 GMT

jennyb@triton.unm.edu (Jenny Ballmann) writes:
>I woke up yesterday feeling like my right hip had been dislocated during
>the night.  (it hadn't been)   Why does the body start disintegrating at
>such an alarmingly young age of (insert your current age here)? 

If I believed in God I might think he was trying to induce thoughts of
mortality at an early age to provide a salutory lesson to know it all
humans. OTOH, it might just be entropy doing that voodoo which it do
so well. Personally, I blame Mike Holmes.

The thing that happens to me is that I go to sleep on my back but
while asleep I tend to thrash about quite a bit. Many's the time I've
woken up with both my arms under me, well dead (somehow the phrase
"gone to sleep" seems a bit confusing in this context). It's a bit
discomforting to lose the use of both your arms for the first ten
minutes of the day. Not only do I have to suffer the slings and arrows
of outrageous pins & needles before I get my first fag (ooops, sorry,
cigarette) or cup of coffee, but if I turn around my arms flail out
like a maypole on benzedrine and assorted household objects are
knocked flying through my second floor windows (that's "third floor"
for the continentally challenged).

Still, it beats the time I woke up to discover my cat having oral sex
with my big toe.

And *that* beats the time when someone stashed one of the pricklier
cacti in the flat on the floor, and I didn't notice. As I said above,
I move about a *lot* in my sleep. I also sleep in a condition you
yoosanians would describe as "butt naked"...

S
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:05:43 EDT
From: Jenni Sheehey <JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Oh, and one more ...

hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman) says:
>In article <92203.210652JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu> Jenni Sheehey
><JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>
>>Peeve: It never would've worked for me.  I'm not 6'4" and innocent
>>looking.
>
>Shouldn't that have been "I'm not 6'4" *or* innocent looking?"

No, I didn't want to commit myself.  =)

Peeve: It's been a long week.  I need a beer.

!Peeve: I have a beer.

Peeve: it's at home, and I have to be here for three more hours yet.

                                                 --Jenni
From: jean@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Powell)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: car/driving peeves
Date: 30 Jul 92 06:17:03 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <92209.132614CEG112@psuvm.psu.edu> CEG112@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Or how about this one.  The ever popular making a right turn while at a red
>light.  If there's no sign saying you can't do it then do it.  I hate getting
>stuck behind someone who doesn't believe in turning on red then you have to
>sit through the light another 15 minutes.  Or better yet the people in the fast

I know what ya'll are thinking...  "Oh Boy!  More Austin driving peeves!"
Right?  Right.

Well, so here in Austin there's also the thing about the road designers
who were intentionally ambiguous.  I just know the guys were sitting
around going "Boy, *this* one will *really* make them wonder!"

Two manifestations of this:
(1)  There are left turn signals (you know - the ones with the arrows
pointing left) at alot of the intersections (though regrettably not enough
of them).  However, they only have three lights - red, yellow, and the green
arrow.  So, having learned to drive in a city where the signals make sense,
I'm left wondering something:  If traffic is clear, can I legally turn when
this signal is red, but the other lights (for the people going straight) are
green?  Or does that red light mean I can't go at all?  They were nice
enough to put a little sign there to help me understand.  It says "Left Turn
Signal".  I *know* it's a left turn signal.  I'm in the left turn lane.
There's one of those little whooshy only-lane white arrows painted on the
pavement.  How about putting a sign that tells me what I *don't* know?
Wouldn't that make more sense?

(2)  On First Street downtown, there's a spot where all the traffic turns.
Being the smart guys they were, they put two right turn lanes.  Now, can I
legally turn right on red from the leftmost right turn lane?  I don't know,
and once again, there is a plethora of signs, none of which gives me any
clue about this.

Both of the above ambiguities leave me with a decision:  do I assume I can
go and risk getting a ticket / having an accident, or do I wait, and risk
making the person behind me get really annoyed?

!Peeve:  Over on the north part of Highway 360, there is a U-turn lane,
complete with it's own "U-Turn Signal".  Someday I'm going to take a
picture of it, just so I have proof that such a thing exists.

!Peeve#2:  The scenery around Highway 360.  It's gorgeous.

Adios,
  Logan
From: pwg@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Goldberg)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Bike Helmets
Keywords: bikes, safety, law
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:52:32 GMT
Reply-To: pwg@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Goldberg)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

In article <1992Jul30.134746.18601@cbfsb.cb.att.com> pfinkel@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (paul.d.finkel) writes:
>My peeve: New Jersey has a law that mandates that children 
>riding bicycles must wear a helmet. 
>
>While I do not object to other people wearing bicycle helmets, 
>why must my kids wear them? Instinctively I would say that kids 
>have fewer accidents riding bikes than adults because they spend 
>more time on bikes and because they have sharper reflexes.

Instinctively I would say that kids have more accidents riding bikes
because they cycle like lunatics with a death wish, whereas adults
cycle like lunatics without a death wish. The only time I had to do an
emergency stop after passing my driving test was when some kid shot
out of a driveway in front me on his bike, without even pausing to see
if the road was clear.

Adult cyclists act as if they are above the law, but at least have
some sense of self-preservation. What particularly annoys me about
them is the way they routinely pass through red lights, as if traffic
lights don't apply to them. Apparently it is in fact illegal even to
get off your bike and walk it through a red light - you're still
deemed to be a cyclist, not a pedestrian. (But this fact comes to me
via word of mouth - perhaps it should be called "folklaw".)

Paul.


Voltaire to Rousseau, on reading Rousseau's "Ode a la Poste'rite'":
"Mon ami, voila une lettre qui ne sera jamais recue a son addresse"
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:36:41 EDT
From: Jenni Sheehey <JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: BDI On Board
 <1992Jul24.050058.7625@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>
 <l70btiINNai9@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>

In article <l70btiINNai9@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM
(Geoff Miller) says:
>
>Could Jenni or Sonja or some other Pennsyltuckian provide details?

Jenni is not from Pennsylvania.

!Peeve: starting week after next, Jenni will no longer be *in*
Pennsylvania.

Hey, Michael, Laura, Joy...  you wanna do lunch?  =)

                                                 --Jenni
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: cs226a030@husky1.stmarys.ca
Subject: Re: Drug testing and welfare
Organization: St. Mary's University, Halifax, N.S., Canada
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:51:53 GMT

In article <24308@castle.ed.ac.uk>, egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson) writes:
> [Mike's Randroid Manifesto mercifully deleted.]
> 

I have always heard that the only thing a liberal can't tolerate is
intolerence.

Later
Mike

> Has anyone seen Mike and Ronald Reagan together in the same room? Are
> they actually the same person? I think we should be told.
> -- 
> -Jeremy Henderson        egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk   
> 
> (or am I?)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: igb@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Ian G Batten)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Drug testing and welfare
Date: 29 Jul 92 09:54:43 GMT
Organization: Fulcrum Communications

>>>>> On 28 Jul 92 23:00:46 GMT, JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu (Jenni Sheehey) said:
Jenni>  No.  "Why shouldn't people use money to buy illegal drugs?"
Jenni>           "Because they're illegal."

Jenni>       "Why are drugs illegal?"
Jenni>          "Because people who are now probably dead, but were
Jenni>           elected by citizens of this country, made a law against
Jenni>           it.  I don't think it's wise to use them, but if you
Jenni>           think they're ok, you're welcome to try to change the
Jenni>           law."

The government of the Third Reich was elected, up to a point.  Hitler
received a greater proportion of the popular vote than, for example,
John Major.  He passed laws which essentially legalised the mass
extermination of certain racial and societal groups.  Although I am not
certain of there having been explicit laws encouraging the gassing of
Jews, there were explicit laws covering the killing of various
categories of ``undesirables''.

Question: would you say that someone who refused to kill a young child
was ``wrong'' if there was a law saying he should do it?

Question: would you say that obeying laws was a defence in moral terms
(vide Nurmemburg).

Question: do you think that there might just possibily be more to the
problem of laws than ``it's the law, so follow it?''


Obpeeve: simplistic moralists.

ian
From: jean@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Powell)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: BDI On Board
Date: 25 Jul 92 09:56:24 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <39563@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford) writes:
>Anyway, I'm sure the topic of this peeve has come up before - those "Baby
>On Board" diamonds people hang in the rear windows of their cars. We've
>already been over the usual complaints here, but to briefly summarise...

Just when you thought Dallas was a fairly run-of-the-mill city with nothing
all *that* interesting to offer, it goes and surprises you.  In Dallas,
the voters got together and passed a City Ordinance against those annoying
yellow diamond thingies.  They're illegal, and a traffice cop can pull you
over (and give you a ticket) for having one in your window.

I think the technical justification was that they obstruct your vision
when driving.

!Peeve:  In Dallas, the flow of traffic is 10-20% above the speed limit,
just like it should be - *even* on Central Expressway, which was ranked
in the top 5 of the United States' most dangerous freeways.

Peeve:  People here in Austin feel the need to STOP at the end of entrance
ramps when the available opening isn't quite to their high standards.  And
THEN, they accelerate as slowly as possible once there is a small opening,
leaving Austin residents who actually know how to drive (because they
learned elsewhere) the choice of (1) staying stopped on the entrance ramp,
or (2) trying to squeeze into an opening that would have been big enough
if the person in front of you wasn't idling into the expressway.  It's
also not uncommon to see people driving 20% less than the speed limit
on the expressway.  Now, I have no problem with people who don't feel like
getting in a hurry, but it's called an EXPRESSway for a reason.  Why
do they *do* this to me?   :-(  :-(

Oh well.  Pretty soon the semester will start, and I'll not have to drive
to work.  Then I'll only have Shuttle Bus annoyances to deal with.

Adios....

  -Logan
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: nolan@twg.com (Andy Rooney)
Subject: Re: radio stuff
Reply-To: nolan@twg.com
Organization: Somewhere West of Nowhere
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:01:55 GMT


In article <35831@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi) writes:

[whining about the practices of commercial radio stations mercifully excised]

LargePeeve: Whiners going on and on about discretionary activities like
listening to the radio. GET A CLUE! Don't listen to those stations if they
bother you! Change the station, or turn the bleedin' thing off. No one has a
powder-driven projectile propulsion device aimed at you (unless there's
something I don't know??), and I know of no religion that requires you to
listen to that drivel. The only time you may feel an obligation to put up with
the drivel is in the presence of others whom you like or respect and who
listen to same drivel, but even then you have options.

Take responsibility for your life, if you have one. Otherwise GET ONE NOW!

--
Nolan "Grandpa Grumble" Hinshaw
Internet: nolan@twg.com			Dingalingnet: (415)962-7197	
"... necrophilia doesn't really hurt anybody."  Rick Gordon

Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich)
Subject: Re: Drug testing and welfare
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 19:56:57 GMT

In <Bs5A78.As4@fulcrum.bt.co.uk> igb@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Ian G Batten) writes:

>The government of the Third Reich was elected, up to a point.  Hitler
>received a greater proportion of the popular vote than, for example,
>John Major.  He passed laws which essentially legalised the mass
>extermination of certain racial and societal groups.  Although I am not
>certain of there having been explicit laws encouraging the gassing of
>Jews, there were explicit laws covering the killing of various
>categories of ``undesirables''.

Well there you go!  Once someone mentions Hitler and/or Nazi Germany, the
discussion is effectively dead.

What is the name of that principle - the one that states that once Hitler
or Nazism is mentioned, the discussion is effectively dead?

Peevefully,
  -Bill
--
"From each, according to his ability,
to each, according to his needs." - Democratic party leaflet (sound familiar?)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: elliott-bruce@CS.YALE.EDU (Bruce Elliott)
Subject: Re: YAHOOS
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:00:22 GMT

In article <mtmm7==@lynx.unm.edu> hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman) writes:
>
>Peeve: "People" who bring electric noise-generating equipment into the 
>Great Outdoors. The Boom Box Bastards (tm) are bad enough, but I think
>the Television Twits (tm) are the worst. Imagine camping fairly close
>to another site where they're all sitting 'round the ol' campfire making
>s'mores and WATCHING TELEVISION. Naturally they've got it cranked up
>so you can just barely hear the laugh track over by your tent. Arrrrrgh!!!
>

I went on a Carribean cruise a couple of years ago with my family.  As 
we were leaving the ship at the end of the cruise, I heard a couple behind
me complaining about the lousy TV reception they got in their cabin.

What is these people's problem?  It's not like you could expect to pick
up anything in the middle of the ocean.  Not to mention the fact that here
they are on vacation on a cruise ship with huge amounts of activities,
the occasional Carribean island, and gorgeous weather all week; and they
want to watch Doogie Howser.

It's no wonder that Western civilization is dying.
From: mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil (Michael Hart)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Newbie Alert!
Date: 31 Jul 92 10:19:36 GMT

In <17333@autodesk.COM> booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:

>I was one of the first peevers, so I can sit on my ass and take a Civil
>Service attitute, 

Now just a goddamn minute here, MS. Richards.  Let me remind you that
_you_ work for the private sector, and therefore are not, repeat,
not, entitled or allowed to "take a Civil Service attitude (or
attitute, whatever _that_ is) and sit on your, no doubt cute,
butt."

_I_ work for the Fed, Dept. of Damnedexpensiveshipsplanesandmissles,
no less, and if anybody around here is gonna cop an attitute and 
sit on their butts, IT'LL DAMN WELL BE ME!

So there.

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From: jflint@libserv1.ic.sunysb.edu (Jesse Flint)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: More Kids...
Date: 26 Jul 1992 22:42:09 -0500
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Okay, I want to know if this is just a local thing or what...

3 and 4-year-old kids in strollers. My GDO, what's wrong here? Is
this just another thing for spoiled little Long-Island shit-kids? 
Do their stupid yuppie parents think this is what's best for 'em? 
Or do they think little Brendon won't be able to keep up with 'm
while touring the mall? I got news for you, kids under the age of 7
or so have special "after-burners" they can kick in, enabling them
to break the sound barrier when necessary... Little vermin.

Peeve: "My Little Pony" and all the other derivative, crappy 
merchandise foisted off on kids (esp. small girls) these days.
It's like porn for children... if y'know what I mean. 

PEEVE: "90210" -- a T.V. show, for those of you who've escaped
the plauge, about spoiled little rich kids in Beverly Hills. 
BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH!!!!
"Oooh, look, Tina broke a fingernail and won't be able to make
the big dance tonight!" "That's okay, her Daddy's got a private
plastic surgeon who'll make her look like new..." ACK! PUKE!
Admittedly, the slu^H^H^H girls who star are nice-looking, but
on the whole their whiny spoiled attiude makes me fantasize about
involving them in a little non-consensual bondage... (just kidding)


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