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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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Subject:      VAL-L

*** Resending note of 09/30/92 10:31


>(I won't tell, cuz he asked me not to.)  He's a true net.character --
>sometimes reasonable, sometimes nutty.  He reminds me a little of Don.

That's got to be some kind of compliment.  Thanks!
been on words-l -- I don't imagine this his type of list.



>:Yes, mamaprimate is love judith (who I miss terribly also).

As also do I.  Predict she will be back ...someday

Peace, Don, who is sometimes reasonable, sometimes nutty, and often JM!
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From:         "(Natalie Maynor)" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Interesting Word
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When I get home tonight, I plan to make Bernard write out the definition
of "semaphore" twenty times before he gets his Mighty Dog.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Sunrise, sunset...
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Tushar,

I'm still trying to decide if I should feel 'elated' or 'disappointed' that
you agreed with me... but since you are one of my 'Words-L Heroes', I think
I'll choose the former. :-)

>Yes. I still doubt very much that this subtle right to left business
>will influence my sense of direction. Cues like "rising on land" are
>much stronger.

The effect was quite profound..... not only did it interfere with my sense of
direction, I felt an eerie sense of 'unreality' about it. It was strange,
though, that I didn't have this problem when I experienced sunset on
the Nullabor Plain - the first time I had seen the sun disappear over a 'land
horizon' without trees or hills occluding the final stages of sunset... a
blood-red sun disappearing from the night sky is one of the most spectacular
visual memories I have of the trip.

However, I am such a 'visual' person that, if I ever saw the sun in the
southern sky, I think that I would become equally disoriented by it.

Carolyn
From: N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU (Gilbert Smith)
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> AND THE ENVELOPE PLEASE:
> .
> 31) BEST ALL-AROUND *POSTER GIRL*:
>       .
>       WINNER:     -abh (6)
>       Runner up:  TIE: //anne// / natalie (4)
>       Also rans:  rita (2)
>                   rashmi/jcs/doris/carol/ruth/elaine (1)
>                   evelyn/karen/gail (1)
> .
>      NOTE:  -abh was named "Ms. Charismatic of 1992" by one
>             enthusiastic voter.
> .
> 32) BEST ALL-AROUND *POSTER BOY*:
>      .
>      (This is *so* embarrassing)
>      .
>      WINNER:    -ggs (4)
>      Runner up: TIE: torkel/dan (3)
>      Also rans:  chris/gt/niteman (2)
>                  neal/*ts*/adam/billM/bernard (1)
>  .
>  CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE WINNERS, INCLUDING MYSELF*******!!!!!
>  -------------ballot tallies coming right up--------------------
>  --ggs
From: haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock)
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   NOW, is everybody happy?
   Contest results tomorrow.
   Other than that, I am <incommonicado)
   You won't have me to <kick around> any more.
   Not for a while.
   --ggs

Keeping up with Words-l has been difficult lately so I have managed to miss
most of the heat-intensive posts--like, is it true Mama P left and are
people really peeved with the gigglemeister?  Well, can't say I'm sorry to
have missed all the <fun>, but I am glad to have caught the results of
giggles survey (I will 'fess now that I never got around to replying :|).
I, for one, enjoyed it and took it in kind, with a grain of salt and a
smile.

//anne, hoping she can log back on later today but will see//
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
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On Mon, 5 Oct 1992, Bernard Chien Perro wrote:
> > This is true...poor Bernard, he works so hard...it's nice to think he may
> > get a break now.
>
> I've been skimming mail and missed the details of the person we're
> discussing.  Is it somebody from U of Texas?

Yes, Bernard...you may want to read her new book about Internet.  I know
how busy you are, though, having to keep all of us in line.

  I groaned when I
saw a
> new subscription from there earlier today because I knew that it meant
> more bounced mail.  Something is screwy with the system there.  Every
> couple of days list mail for amadeus.utexas.edu bounces for a while and
> then stops bouncing.  I try to be patient since the bouncing doesn't
> usually last all that long.  But it does cause a bit of clutter in my
> mailbox.

But you're such a sweet and patient person...er..uh...beagle.  Besides,
you may have noticed that the people from the University of Texas are NOT
aspiring military officers...a definite plus.
ndh>





    o/.\____/ >          -- Bernard      \______|
>                          / \  / \
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:31:07 -0400
From:         Marty Rosen <crosen@ANDY.BGSU.EDU>
Subject:      Federal debt
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Greetings,

Gross Federal Debt includes money borrowed by the Treasury and by various
Federal agencies.  It is the broadest generally used measure of the
Federal debt.  The figures below are expressed in billions of dollars
(except for the percentage figures, of course).

Year   Gross Federal Debt    GFD as % of GNP

1945      260.0              122.5
1950      257.0              96.3
1955      274.0              71.0
1960      290.5              57.3
1966      328.5              44.5
1967      340.4              42.8
1968      368.7              43.4
1969      365.8              39.4
1970      380.9              38.5
1971      408.2              38.7
1972      435.9              37.8[B
1973      466.3              36.4
1974      483.9              34.2
1975      541.9              35.6
1976      629.0              37.0
1977      706.4              36.5
1978      776.6              35.8
1979      828.9              33.9
1980      908.5              34.0
1981      994.3              33.3
1982    1,136.8              36.2
1983    1,371.2              41.3
1984    1,564.1              42.4
1985    1,817.0              46.0
1986    2,120.1              50.7
1987    2,345.6              52.9
1988    2,600.8              54.3
1989    2,866.2              55.6
1990    3,113.3 (est)        56.7

In 1983, total Federal receipts declined from 617.8 billion to 600.6
billion.  The same year saw an increase in outlays from 745.7 billion to
8.83 billion.  Democrats may tax and spend, but somehow this seems more
responsible than the Republican approach which  on the face of it consists
of spending money without regard to where it will come from.  Certainly,
there is no evidence whatever to support the original supply-side notion
(the laughable laffer curve) that declines in tax rates would generate
increases in tax revenues.

Marty
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 12:25:56 EDT
From:         Bill Merrill <ST401601@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Scanners
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The LaCie color scanner in my office was around 1300$ One with
Photoshop would be a couple of hundred more. We have a slide
scanner (that I don't use) that cost around 7K but I understand
that they can be had for as low as 3K. Bill
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:53:30 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: Speaking of Net Stuff

I said:

>Don't worry. I will begin try to get mail to a new account from now on,
>right after I am done with setting it up.

Sorry.

tushar
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:51:00 EST
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Greetings,

Steps?? What steps?  I don't like the sound of this.  Next, Words-l will
be included in a list of "banned" computer stuff.

Disusered, indeed.

Marty
From: gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK (Graham Toal)
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Date: 6 Oct 92 13:19:22 GMT
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On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 09:49:15 -0700, "JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS"
 <WILLIAMS@MC.BITNET> wrote:
> Have you ever considered emmigrating?  You're a born Democrat!  8-)

No way.  Your Democrats are way too right-wing for me.

G
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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Subject:      Don, Trying to Combat Local Vocal Instrusion

I will write "intrusion" 40 times and go sit in the corner and wear a dunce
cap, and maybe even consider using spell-checker.

"intrusion" 40 times

Don, who never fixes dinner, but fixes just about everything else, and is
fixing to get to work.  Bye.

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:48:19 -0500
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: clothes
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On Thu, 1 Oct 1992, Theresa Wild wrote:
> Now that we know how everyone puts/takes garbage,
>
> Do you    1. Bring in the clothes
>           2. Go pick the clothes
>
> This for those who resort to fresh air drying opposed
> to the tumble machine.

If I still had a clothesline, I would bring in the clothes.
And I'd like to know:
Do you	1.  Put up the dishes
 	2.  Put away the dishes
Do you  1.  Make dinner
        2.  Fix dinner
ndh (who should certainly start doing something about the latter right now)
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Subject:      Re: Birthdays Oct. 1 - 5
              5 Oct 1992 17:46:42 CDT from <tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU>

On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:46:42 CDT <tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU> said:
>>And to think that I missed the birthday of Edward L. STratemeyer, *father*
>>of some of my favorite childhood friends!
>
>Couldn't help noticing that the list missed Gandhi, father of a whole
>nation.

Sorry, tushar, but the book I use is A Book of Days for the Literary
Year.  If Gandhi had been a playwright, author, poet, etc., he would
have been included.

Evelyn
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Subject:      Re: Gleanings (62)

17) Narcisse

    The brand of perfume in the sniff-it ad in the new New Yorker
    that evoked the strong olfactory prejudices of certain Wordslingers.
    $225 per fl. oz. at Macy's

16) Brett Coleman Kimberlin

    Subject of a longish profile in the new New Yorker.  I confess
    I have yet to read the article, but it appears to be about
    his possible innonence of the crimes for which he was imprisoned,
    as well as his silencing in 1988 when he claimed he had once
    sold marijuana to Dan Quayle.

brad
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From:         "(Graham Toal)" <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject:      Re: Reverse E-Opps
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It's usually considered bad manners to xpost without asking permission.
The only time I've done so deliberately was when I posted whats-his-name's
story from alt.sex.stories to here, and in that case I didn't care if I
offended him.  In fact, that was the intention :)

G
PS What happened to that guy?  Did he run out of potted stories to
repost?  And what *was* his name?
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From:         harwell@BANDW.PANAM.EDU
Subject:      Oops
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It's not Bobcat, it's Tom Hanks. But Bobcat is supposedly somewhere in the
movie. Not a good start for the week.

-abh
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From:         "(Joan Boorstein)" <boorstein%umbsky.dnet@NS.UMB.EDU>
Subject:      Gleanings
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27) Susan Stamberg (Rod)
        Reporter/newscaster/hostess of the National Public Radio(NPR)
daily evening news program All Things Considered

31) Grey Poupon (Evelyn)
        A brand of mustard, though produced by Nabisco, is advertised in
a snooty way -- has wine in it (not at home so can't check the jar) -- not
the mustard used at sporting events on the hot dogs sold there -- I'm not
counting the tailgate parties at the likes of Harvard/Yale game, of course.

32) Magikist/Dan Ryan Expressway (Steve K.)
    	The Dan Ryan Expressway is one of the major Chicago freeways

--- Joan Boorstein (boorstein%umbsky.dnet@ns.umb.edu)
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Date:         Sun, 4 Oct 1992 16:39:45 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: Golden Words For Today

>_Sheesh.  Why isn't all this automotive business discussed
>in alt.cars.lemons or something....  I really miss all the
>flaming that used to occur on the list._
>.
>--ts, in the post "Re: Cars", july 29 1992, when things were
>  nice.....

Always check attribution, friend. This could land you in big
trouble. Also finger venkates@frankel.hep.upenn.edu before
saying anything. Do this fingering without any Graham quotes
prejudicing you.

tushar
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ@ZENO.MSCD.EDU>
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From: Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>

>	I, for one, thought the contest was an absolute piss!

>	I think words-l has forgotten how to laugh at itself (I trace
> the problem back to when it was decided how "nice" we all were -- what
> an icky word!).

     I missed when the list niced itself.  Maybe that is why I scare
the living daylights out of the others in the terminal room by
laughing loudly at odd intervals.  (At even intervals I rest.)

The Ronin
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From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Test your newbieness!!

This one's a little too easy, tushies.  Who received compliments?  You and
anne, mostly.  Who trumpets their own horn most on this list? You.  Who has a
history of posting fake messages. You.

Nice try, anyway.  We lowlies with only bitnet access (but maybe not much
longer.  Internet may be on its way!!!) perhaps can't do the fancy stuff, but
we sure as heck can spot those who can. Try playing an elf next time.

Chris
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>tushar

>I'll post the list of Voters tomorrow. Voteds, start thinking about who
>voted you "Most Irritating".

Can't remember if I voted tushar "most irritating" or "most confusing".
But suggestion for new category:  "What is most irritating thread?"
I'll make the first vote:  Surveys!
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From:         IBAILEYTW%1994B%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject:      HOWIE
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Howie,

     Well, I'm through here in Mallory Hall.  I thought I might come by Scott
Ship Hall and see you but I need to go up to my room and study some other
stuff.  I'll see you at Breakfast Roll Call.  Good night and don't piss off
any of our fans.  Boy, do they hate us!!!!

                                   Country
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Sayeth ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM

} >	I think words-l has forgotten how to laugh at itself (I trace
} >the problem back to when it was decided how "nice" we all were -- what
} >an icky word!).
} >
} >
} >Rita

} There are differences between niceness, laughing at yourself, ...

     I thought Rita was referencing the additional strain someone goes
through when they conciously attempt to maintain a trait in their
personality.  By deciding to be 'nice', then one comes to be worry
about each and every act, and whether this act will destroy the image.
It also makes it more difficult to know what is going on, as one is
supposed to be nice and to assume everyone is nice.  But since it is
now concious, parts of this are an act, and the subjects of the
messages are left to doubt whether the sentiment is real.  A greater
dose of "like it or lump it" makes it easier to tell what is going on
and harder to doubt the meaning of the message.

     This is not to say we shouldn't be nice.  We just shouldn't
stretch the list out of shape doing it.

The Ronin
From: fwp@CC.MSSTATE.EDU ((Frank Peters))
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In article <WORDS-L%92092915231822@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU says:
:
:   BTW, Santa Claus is Frank W. Peters.

Nope.  If I were going to forge a message I wouldn't need the two practice
messages that preceded it.

Besides, I've only ever forged email to one person (and that was just to
show her how its done).
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From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Japanese Lessons
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              28 Sep 92 22:00:37 -0400. <9209290305.AA20872@sics.se>

 >Hmm...I must be a strict teacher. I would have given him a C+. I thought
 >his style was close to being offensively direct, and for that I wouldn't
 >give it above a C.

 A! Karen-san wa watashi no hen na nihongo ga yoku wakaru ne! (Kay-sensei wa,
nihonjin no yoo na hito da kara, nani mo wakaranai, mochiron. Watashi
wa Kay-sensei yori, Karen-san ga suki da ka mo shirenai...koko e kite,
watashi ni nihonjin mo wakaru nihongo o oshiete, doo?)
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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In a previous article, ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU (Dan Lester) says:

>On Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:23:00 EST <CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu> said:
>>minutes later and changed the tire, and I was on my way--I only got
>>out of the car to open the trunk).
>
>Gee, you can't open the trunk from inside?  What kinda junker are you
>driving, anyway?  8-)
>
Not an '82 Cav. at any rate;  I've got a trunk release that works
from the inside.  My father drives an '89 Crown Vic, and it has one too,
although it doesn't work unless the electrical system is on.  My sister's
Taurus doesn't have one, for some reason.  Her car does have rear seat 
shoulder belts, so maybe it was a trade-off.:)



-- 
It's Ruth the NetHead, back from the [virtual] dead
	- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
fighting for truth, justice and static-free lines
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Sunrise, sunset...
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Well, Agnes, in some ways you are right. New Zealanders are quite different
from anyone else. On the other hand, Australians are more like Americans....
they are both obnoxious away from their homelands. :-)

I live further north than anywhere in New Zealand and the sun here rises in
the east; travels in an arc across the northern sky inclination varies
according to the season..... it's currently inclined at about 75 degrees from
the horizon...... and sets in the west - not NE to NW as Graham said was true
for NZ.

No 'peanuts' here! :-)

Carolyn
From: AMM@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (ann mandi)
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Subject: Re: On C. Martin Rosen
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:21:07 GMT
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>Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 10:57:00 EST
>From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>

>        Marty no longer posts to STATLG-L, though his subscription remains
>        open.

Harumph!  *I* don't call it an open subscription when you're nomail for
months on end.

ann mandi
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