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From: skb@ide.hk-r.se (Bengt-Arne Skoog)
Subject: Re: re:DAT-Tape
Organization: Hgskolan Karlskrona/Ronneby (HK/R)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 07:39:38 GMT

>=====================================================================
>I've sucessfully used the HP DAT tape drive in both Compaq Systempros
>and Dell 450 SE servers.  I used the DPT Smart Cache Controller in both
>systems.  What controller are you using and on what type of server?  There's
>been alot of discussion about this particular tape drive in the last few
>months....I believe it depends on the controller.

>Send me more info and I'll help you out.

AST SE/50 with Adaptec 1540 used for DAT, DPT is used for Disks
and Adaptec onlny for tape!

Email : Bengt-Arne.Skoog@ide.hk-r.se
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:56:00 EST
From:         "Gregory.Burgess" <GBURGESS@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      unix to vines lpd

What is it that you want to do with Unix to Vines printing?

LPD for Vines 5.0 servers and LPD for Vines 4.x servers is up on CSUS and is
free.  It supports Unix --> Vines printing.

Contact me for more information if you are interested in these services, or
have any comments on them. (I modified the LPD for 4 to run with 5.)

Greg Burgess

GBURGESS@msu.edu
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:58:00 GMT
From:         ps@JET.UK
Subject:      Re: Fast Server Cards

From: frank=koperdraat <frank=koperdraat@IC.UVA.NL>

>I know this has been ask before, but wading through old Banyan-l mail didn't
>give a clear answer:
>  What is the fastest Ethernet-card for a server with an EISA-bus. UTP is a
>  plus, but not neccesary.

We use NE3200 EISA Cards in our Compaq SystemPro Servers, they go like a
rocket compared to our ISA based servers.  Whether this is the card, the
server, the 486 processor or a combination of all I cannot say!

They work well and have given no major problems, I understand that Compaq use
them with VINES and their SystemPro's in-house, so the level of compatability
should be good.

This is not to say that they are the "fastest", but probably close, and at
least merit consideration. Just my 2 cents worth.

Regards

Paul Simmonds
VINES Network Manager

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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:38:41 -0300
From:         Ian.Brabham@CC.MONASH.EDU.AU
Subject:      re: Moving Groups

Jeffrey G. Brown,

>Oy. Any idea how one can estimate how many floppies a given Streetalk
>group will need?

The move ST group backup backs up the entire ST database of that server, then
deletes the one group you specified. The restore picks out the group required
from the backup.  My busiest ST server takes about 4 1.2Meg diskettes.  Also
you can move ST groups from a full system backup.  As a rough guess allow
about 3K per user and 2K per list or service, thats about 400 users or 600
lists/services per 1.2 meg diskette.

Paranoids way of moving groups with safety.

1. With MGROUP create a dummy group.
2. Move the dummy group to backup media.
3. Verify the backup, if it fails goto step 1 with new media.
4. Repeat steps 1 to 3 to get the required number of backup copies to suit
   your paranoia level.
5. With MGROUP delete the groups you want to move.
6. Wait a few minutes for the delete group commands to propagate the network.
7. Move the groups onto the new server from one of the ST backup sets, all
   the groups from the server are on each backup set.

Ian Brabham                 email: ian.brabham@cc.monash.edu.au
Micro Support Group         phone: +61 3 565 4742
Monash University           fax:   +61 3 565 4746
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:27:07 CET
From:         frank=koperdraat@IC.UVA.NL
Subject:      re: Banyan Press Releases

> From:           idrc/G=Jackson/S=Shaw/O=IDRC_CRDI/OU=EDP_TED@mhs.attmail.com
>
> Hi folks..I have three Banyan press releases I could upload if folks were
> interested:
>
> - Banyan's new VIP program
> - The 5.5 release
> - StreetTalk III
>
> I've hesitated in the past from upload releases because I never could tell if
> anyone wanted to see them. So, would you?

Hi Jackson

Yes I'm interested. I guess it will be months before our dealer can/will
supply them. But wouldn't it be better to upload them to csus.edu?

Greetings and thanks
Frank Koperdraat
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:38:25 +1100
From:         Paul White <pdw@MELB.BULL.OZ.AU>
Subject:      3Com 3c509

Try changing the interrupt value for the card from the default of 10 to, say,
3 or 5 (I don't know why the default is 10).  One of our customers is running
Vines 4.11(5) with NDIS and 3c503-16 cards, and was looking forward to good
performance from the 3c509.  Unfortunately, as you found, performance was
around 300%w worse.  Loading Excel 4 from a Zenith 486 server took 10-12
seconds with the 3c503, whereas it was around 30-40 seconds with the 3c509.
We changed the interrupt to 3, and immediately got 8 seconds.  I know that
this is a very rough measure, but it tells the story!

Paul White,

Bull HN, Melbourne.
From: John=Valenti%cs%SSC@BANYAN.CL.MSU.EDU
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Subject: re: KEYS. & Keys
Date: 6 Jan 93 01:04:32 GMT
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Wim Malliet writes:
> Just a question to start this year! In a few weeks i will change an
> unlimited, for a 5 users limited key. The server is a Communication machine
> with 2 ICA boards in it. On this machine we installed the TCP/IP Routing
> option. Will the different serial numbers of the keys give me some problems?

We've just been thru a swap like this. I think if you read the manuals it
suggests NEVER swapping server keys. I called our VAR about this and there
are two ways to work around this:

1) shut the server off for 96 hours. The other servers in the network will
forget about it then, and you can bring it back up with the other key.

2) Shut down the server and disconnect it from the network. Bring it back up
with the new key, and adjust the clock forward 97 hours. Meanwhile, adjust
network time on the rest of your servers forward 97 hours. Wait (15 minutes +
(15 minutes x #hops in your network)) for the time change to propagate thru
your network, then reset the correct time. Fix the time up on the
disconnected server, and re-connect to the network.

Method 2 has several bad side effects: mailbox wastebaskets aren't emptied
for a week, the incorrect network time affects filestamps, backups may start,
etc. Use at your own risk!

and (in a separate posting) Bent Tranberg writes:
> Can I swap server keys that have the same options, or will the system check
> the server key's serial number for 'ownership' and alert the nearest
> FBI headquarters if it has changed?

If you have other servers in the network, they keep track of where groups are
located by server serial #. You must use one of the two methods above when
swapping server keys.
Beyond that, I think keys are only checked at boot up time.

> I am not quite sure I understand what can and can't be done with keys. Is it
> all right if I only use the newest (blue) keys for all moving, or do I
> really have to bother with what kind of key the option originally came in
> and things like that?

The newer option keys are upwardly compatible with the old ones, so you
should be able to just use them to move options around.

> Someone gave us an old Banyan (BNS or DTS?) server, with keys. Can I get the
> options out of the options or server keys and use it in our PC(386/486)
> servers? ( The only running servers here are PC servers. The BNS was a real
> mess. )

I moved several options off a DTS key, seemed to work fine. It was even
possible to boot a 486 server (Vines 5.0) with the DTS key and get to the
console selection to move the options off.

> Not important to me, but is an upgrade key really just an option key?

Not sure, but I think so.

-jav     John Valenti    valenti@msu.edu    Michigan State University
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Subject:      Password Calls

        I have seen a lot of talk lately about the password calls such as
VnsSetSPassword and VnsVerifySPassword.  Are these calls available only in
certain versions of the toolkit or under certain development platforms?  I
can't seem to find any references to them in my toolkit documentation and
would like to be using them in some software that I am writing.

        Anyone care to point me in the right direction?

        Jeff.
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:38:37 EST
From:         Elliott Coates <coates@UMUC.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Banyan Mail/MS-Windows

My Vines mail works flawlessly under Windows.

Any officially known problems would be in Banyan's Known Problem Report,
available via anonymous ftp from csus.

Elliott Coates
coates@umuc.umd.edu
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:40:25 PST
From:         C.=Hanley%IM%SPK@BANYAN.USACE.MIL
Subject:      re: unix to vines lpd

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:"Gregory.Burgess" <GBURGESS%MSU.bitnet@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>

Should be able to (99% sure it will).  I consider it stable, but that comes
from the me, should probably take it with a grain of salt!  (anybody else
want
to comment on stablility of LPD?)
=====================================================================
We're using the public domain version of lpd (version 1.0e).  All works fine
but service doesn't delete spooled jobs on server.  After a while, the
server hard disk fills up!  Anyone else have this problem?  Perhaps we're
running on an older version of lpd.

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Carolyn Hanley, U.S. Army Corps of Engrs.
chanley@usace.mil
916-557-7035, 916-557-7847 (fax)
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From:         MA=Crist%Info_Sys%STG_IS@DSO3.DSD.TRW.COM
Subject:      re: Auto-Compose and Send Mail

Brent,

Try BatMail from NetPro.  They can be reached at (602) 998-5076.  Not sure if
it'll meet all your needs, but we've had good luck using to alert people to
document updates within an imaging application that we put together.

Mike Crist
TRW
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 19:35:20 -0300
From:         Ian.Brabham@CC.MONASH.EDU.AU
Subject:      re: Packet Drivers and Ebanyan

Hendrik and others,

Hi all and happy new year.  I hope you all enjoyed the feastive season, I did.

>>>As far as I know you need to enable multi protocol support in pcconfig to
>>>get ebanyan to work with a packet driver. A drawback to this approach is
>>>the with multi protocol enabled some packet driver application programs
>>>don't work anymore.

>>Yes Hendrik, thank you for pointing that out. I meant to include that
>>tidbit.  I don't know what other "packet driver applications" there are
>>which might not work, but if you know of any specifically, I would like to
>>know what they are.

>I just tried some of them and none of them work with multi protocol enabled.
>Examples are : Trumpet (news), Gobbler (sniffer), NCSA (telnet/ftp etc), CMU
>Archie. Looks like they are just no compatible.

The difficulty is that with multiprotocol support enabled CSIBAN registers
both VinesIP and IP protocol stacks with the packet driver.  Under the rules
and regulations of packet drivers there can only one owner of a given
protocol stack.  This is also why there is some difficulty running multiple
TCP/IP packet driver applications at the same time only one of them can own
the IP protocol stack.

There is an application called PKTMUX which gets around this problem by
multiplexing the IP stack between several pseudo packet drivers.  I can't
remember where I found it but I'll have a look at work on Monday, somebodys
archie server will know where to find it.

To use it load a normal packet driver, then load pktmux with the appropriate
number of pseudo drivers, usually 2, then load Vines.  You should now be able
to use EBANYAN PcTcp and some other IP based application together.  You need
to force the other app. to use the higher numbered pseudo driver as CSIBAN
will use the lowest numbered packet driver it can find and register that IP
stack to itself.

Ian Brabham                 email: ian.brabham@cc.monash.edu.au
Micro Support Group         phone: +61 3 565 4742
Monash University           fax:   +61 3 565 4746
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Hi Ed,

The answer is yes. I'll include a short Technical Bulleting from Banyan.

Greetings
Frank Koperdraat
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BULLETIN #:           195
Date:                 6 November 1990
Summary:              250-MB Data Cartridge Tape Supported
Server:               Any Server with a 150-MB Tape Drive
Software Version:     3.10 and 4.00
Category:             Hardware - Tape Drives
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Banyan now supports the use of extended-length data cartridge tapes
manufactured by 3M (model number DC 6250) in Banyan's 150-MB tape
drives.  These 250-MB (1020-foot) tapes can be used in both the
internal and external tape drive models.  Using the 1020-foot
extended-length tape in effect upgrades a 150-MB tape drive to a
250-MB capacity tape drive.

Any reference to the use or installation of the 150-MB tape drive
found in any VINES publication, such as the "VINES External Tape Drive
Installation Guide" or the "VINES Server Operations Guide," also
applies to a 150-MB tape drive using the 250-MB tapes.

Note:  The 250-MB tapes cannot be used in 45-MB or 60-MB tape drives.
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:59:45 CST
From:         Rick=L.=Perales%2nd=Fl%FPCM@FPCM.MED.UTH.TMC.EDU

Hello everyone.

Quick question: I need to connect one of our servers to a 16mb token ring
network. Any server card recommendations? (ISA server, 4.11(5))

Mail me directly so you don't flood the list.

Thanks.
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Subject:      re: Packet Drivers and Ebanyan

Robert,

I am trying to set up a 3C509 with the packet driver and can't get it to
work.  I noticed that you have and was wondering if you might know what I'm
doing wrong.  Basically, I've configured it identically to you.  But, when I
rung 3c509 0x60, it comes back "3c509 not found" ***Packet driver failed to
initialize the board***.  The board passes all group 1 tests.  Any help you
could provide would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Mike Crist
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Subject:      BANPKT packet driver

How does the BANPKT driver work?  Does it interface with IBANYAN, or with only
certain network cards?

                                        Rich Gautier
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Subject:      re: Superuser/root whatever you want to call it.

I am a former Banyan SE.  As a condition of employment, Banyan required me to
sign an agreement allowing Banyan to hold me personally and financially liable
if I were to use the maintenance password or any other proprietary trade
secrets for personal gain.  I haven't.  Besides, the password is changed with
each NEWREV release.

The reason users are prohibited access to /disk1/banyan is that the code for
all option-key options is installed there, and the presence of an option on
the server key just controls whether its processes are launched at boot-up.
This also is where Banyan enforces marketing limitations such as number of
print services, etc.

Banyan customers should expect Banyan (and its resellers, VARs, etc) to
provide support for the portions of the product you can't get at.  In my
experience they do a reasonable job of it, although I was fired for
supporting their biggest customer instead of a sales presentation.
Fortunately, that customer hired me!

                                  ____________
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PG&E Nuclear Power Generation      | | | | _|-|     Closer Than They Appear"
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From: andy@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (Andrew Jarvis)
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Subject: Re: unix to vines lpd
Date: 12 Jan 1993 15:34:37 +1100
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C.=Hanley%IM%SPK@BANYAN.USACE.MIL writes:

>=====================================================================
>We're using the public domain version of lpd (version 1.0e).  All works fine
>but service doesn't delete spooled jobs on server.  After a while, the
>server hard disk fills up!  Anyone else have this problem?  Perhaps we're
>running on an older version of lpd.
>-------------------------------------------
>Carolyn Hanley, U.S. Army Corps of Engrs.
>chanley@usace.mil

us too! We are running an even older version. (1.0d).  Have gone over to
Incognito Software's lpd.  Very nice. No problems thus far

Andy Jarvis				
Networks and Communications		
Information Technology Services		 phone: +61 3 344 4136
University of Melbourne			 email: andy@sheen.its.unimelb.edu.au
Australia				
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:40:34 GMT
From:         idrc/G=Jackson/S=Shaw/O=IDRC_CRDI/OU=EDP_TED@MHS.ATTMAIL.COM
Subject:      Banyan Press Releases

Hi folks..I have three Banyan press releases I could upload if folks were
interested:

- Banyan's new VIP program
- The 5.5 release
- StreetTalk III

I've hesitated in the past from upload releases because I never could tell if
anyone wanted to see them. So, would you?

j

p.s. read upload to mean via banyan-l
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From:         Barb Ripp <rippb@SVM.VETMED.WISC.EDU>
Subject:      FID Error Message in Disk Checking Process

Hi All,

This morning one of our servers went down with as yet, no explainable reason.

The console was sitting in debug mode after displaying the NMI Kernel Trap Panic
message.  I rebooted the server and everything came back up fine.  We are
running 5.0(5) on a 386 server.  In looking through the server error logs the
only message that may indicate a clue to our problem is:

checking /disk1/BFS/VINESFiles

current_fid too low:  current_fid = 125057 mas fid in fid file = 125079
WARNING: max fid value = 125111 = 0x1e8b7


Can anyone tell me what a fid is and how do I change it's value?

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Barb Ripp
UW-Madison
School of Veterinary Medicine
608-262-4629
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From: moses@netcom.com (Alex Jauch)
Subject: Re: STDA Dying...
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:16:40 GMT

R=Stoll%SysAdmin%7CG@LGGATE2.HQ.AF.MIL writes:

>There is a patch that fixes the problem.  I believe it's 4.11(5)-CD-2.
>You might want to check with your VAR to be absolutely sure.


>SSgt Robert Stoll
>7th Communications Group
>The Pentagon

>rstoll@lggate2.hq.af.mil

I don't think this is it Roger.  I believe CD-2 is a Z drive patch.  I think
we're currently installing EJ-1 on our STDA servers.

Alex

-- 
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moses@netcom.com                        to have gone missing"
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