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From: ploof@griffin (Scott B Ploof)
Subject: legacy suggestions
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: net
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:49:28 GMT

I picked up Graphic Workshop about a week ago.....I was using Alchemy, but after
seeing this one.....well, I going to register it

for pictures that are 640x480 those will be .exe files....I'm working on code
to imbed them....just need more time....all will be put into one .dat file
and will be extracted to show.......

About my address.....I've gotten mail from England and VA using Ploof@uvm.edu
for those that are having problems try Ploof@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu
if that doesn't work I may have to beat up the local "network" crew and get
this worked out.....

its a very original looking magazine, one that I'm proud off....a lot of work
has gone into getting it to its current state....amazing what ansi will do for
ya.....pick up THEDRAW today (scuse the plug)

Scott Ploof


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From: space2@hardy.u.washington.edu (Tim)
Newsgroups: alt.zines,rec.mag
Subject: Re: F5-E subscriptions
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:29:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov11.212900.29203
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <BxKCCD.DFE@nic.umass.edu> quilty@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Humberto Humbertoldi) writes:
>>which method is the 'best.'
>
>My "vote" is for F5-E to be published in "issues." Perhaps it would
>even be possible to have a somewhat topical theme to these issues...
>that I get enough email that I would probably lose track of individual
>reviews if they all got sent separately... even ones that I might be
>interested in.  But if I got F5-E in larger packages, I would be more
>likely to read -- or at least skim -- a whole issue when I felt I had
>enough time to get around to it.  I dunno, maybe it's just my own
>method of mental housekeeping, but for me this would make it easier to
>keep track of what I had read.

Although there have been good points made for individual articles I
have to say my prefence would be atleast digest sized issues by category
because I have too much misc mail from other lists and things that its
hard to keep track of already.

Actually just thinking about it while writing this I guess I could
handle individual articles if a common header system in used like:
Subject: F5E - SF UPDATE    or
Subject: F5E: Techno Update 

Then they would be easier to keep track of: I could just put 'em in the
specific Subject folder or cat 'em into long files by subject.
which would make less difficult to keep track of.

>	Just my $.02.
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Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny)
Subject: New F5 updates?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 04:15:17 GMT

How often is F5 updated at the FTP sites?  
 
I was just reading the entries...listed as being uploaded in August.
Will there be updates soon?
 
...e

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Newsgroups: alt.zines,rec.mag
From: jerod23@well.sf.ca.us (Jerod Pore)
Subject: F5-E subscriptions
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 18:25:24 GMT


I know, I know, you're tired of the first thing you get back from me being
"Can you do ftp?"  or  "There is no subscription list."

Things are about to change.

Yup, another wonderful person from Ann Arbor, the apparent nexus of cool, 
has decided to help with FactSheet Five - Electric.  A mailing list will be
setup for those of you who, for whatever reasons, are unable to receive the
F5-E files via ftp.  No more having to read alt.zines or rec.mag to see
if we've done anything lately.  (BTW, we *have* been reviewing zines.  We 
have not been able to get the reviews out of the database and into a
vanilla ASCII file for distribution over The Net.  The printed version of
F5 is our priority now.  Once that is dealt with, a bunch of reviews will
be uploaded.)

But, we do have a question for everyone.  Just *how* do we go about doing
this massive e-mailing?  Do we wait until we have an 'issue' of F5-E and 
send out all the review files at once?  Or do we send out the latest files
as they are finished?  There's no having it both ways, we must decide on
which method is the 'best.'

*WHEN* (And I really want to stress that this is not yet running.  Don't
start sending me subscription requests now.  Thank you.)  we get this going
the subscription/desubscription process will be simple.  Just email me,
jerod23@well.sf.ca.us  Tell me what you want, to subscribe or not.
I'll be maintaining the file of subscribers myself, so as long as your
request is understandable to me, I'll deal with it.

For now, post or email your arguements about which way we should do the
mailing.  To us, it's just as difficult one way or the other.



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From: ss7m+@andrew.cmu.edu (Steven M. Stadnicki)
Newsgroups: alt.zines,rec.mag
Subject: Re: F5-E subscriptions
Date: 9 Nov 92 06:47:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.kezdMQS00WB=Qvk1F1
Organization: Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


     I vote with sending out the updates.  It seems to me that the updates
could be regularly mailed out easier.  Then maybe you could post the 'digests'
to the newsgroups.  Just my two cents.


       ss7m@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.zines,rec.mag,comp.graphics,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.comics
From: quilty@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Humberto Humbertoldi)
Subject: Re: LEGACY MAGAZINE
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:29:35 GMT

Hey netters, sorry to post my email here... but the return address given
for Legacy magazine by the poster to this group is undeliverable, and 
I wanted to send this to it.  Still, the info might be useful as well 
for anyone else interested in posting graphics type e-zines.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
I would certainly be very interested in receiving legacy if you put it 
on an email distribution list... or I'll get it by ftp.  Hopefully, if 
I ever get a moment free, I may even have some work to send you.. but 
right now I'm just writing with a (hopefully) helpful suggestion. 
 
In article <1992Nov11.164702.27159@uvm.edu> you write: 
> 
>   VGA art (320x200)....(we are working on the code for SVGA and 
>                                  640x480....) 
> 
>   Ansi Art...ansi art of any dimension. 
> 
>   Loaders under 40k. 
 
Graphics Workshop, by Alchemy Mindworks, is a dynamite shareware 
graphics file viewing/conversion/modification program for about $40. 
It'll basically convert anything to anything else in terms of graphic 
formats (including converting text files to graphics screens).  One 
feature in versions since something or another (I've had it, on and 
off, for a number of versions, but don't currently have the program or 
documentation on my HD for quick access to details) is the ability to 
convert graphics files to self-displaying exe files.  I think the 
displayed files are VGA only, so this is some limitation; but the 
overhead for the loader in the exe file is practically nothing ( <5k 
if I remember right, I think more like 2k, in fact).  Depending on how 
you program this thing, having self-displaying exe files might be just 
the thing... and these would then be detachable for redistribution 
without having to redistribut viewing software.  Sorry I don't have 
Alchemy Mindworks' address or number at my fingertips, but their stuff 
is widely distributed through all the shareware channels... and I 
could look it up if you email me back. 


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Newsgroups: alt.smouldering.dog.zone,alt.flame,talk.bizarre
From: fred_s@earwax.pei.com (Fred Scott)
Subject: Re: Smouldering dogs in Vermnot?!
Organization: Protocol Engines Incorporated
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:17:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.161152.60777@cc.usu.edu> slgnj@cc.usu.edu writes:
>In article <BxL8s8.2GH@world.std.com>, kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) writes:
>
>> In article <1992Nov11.190301.60736@cc.usu.edu> slgnj@cc.usu.edu writes:
>                                                 ^^^^^^
>>>In article <1992Nov11.183301.60726@cc.usu.edu>, slgsn@cc.usu.edu writes:
>                                                  ^^^^^
>>>> "Hey, Drew, what the Hell did you do with YOUR smoldering dog last weekend? I
>>>> let mine burn until it was a black corn-flake all over the place...IN VERMONT
>>>> !"
>>>
>>>IN VERMONT!?!?!?
>> 
>> Following up to your own posts is a sign that you need to join the
>                  ^^^^^^^^
>> Scientologists RIGHT NOW!  Don't just walk, RUN over to
>> alt.religion.scientology, and take the Free Personality Test!
>> 
>> 							-- K.
>> 
> 
>HELLO? ANYBODY IN THERE?
>
>Let's get this straight. I am SLGNJ. SLGSN is someone else.
>Despite the fact that we are on the same campus, we are NOT the same.
>
>
>                       %!!$G
>
>

i dunno.  has anyone ever seen you two together?
Xref: sparky alt.smouldering.dog.zone:90 alt.flame:14714
From: slgnj@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.smouldering.dog.zone,alt.flame
Subject: Re: Smouldering dogs in Vermnot?!
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:11:52 GMT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <BxL8s8.2GH@world.std.com>, kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) writes:

> In article <1992Nov11.190301.60736@cc.usu.edu> slgnj@cc.usu.edu writes:
                                                 ^^^^^^
>>In article <1992Nov11.183301.60726@cc.usu.edu>, slgsn@cc.usu.edu writes:
                                                  ^^^^^
>>> "Hey, Drew, what the Hell did you do with YOUR smoldering dog last weekend? I
>>> let mine burn until it was a black corn-flake all over the place...IN VERMONT
>>> !"
>>
>>IN VERMONT!?!?!?
> 
> Following up to your own posts is a sign that you need to join the
                  ^^^^^^^^
> Scientologists RIGHT NOW!  Don't just walk, RUN over to
> alt.religion.scientology, and take the Free Personality Test!
> 
> 							-- K.
> 
 
HELLO? ANYBODY IN THERE?

Let's get this straight. I am SLGNJ. SLGSN is someone else.
Despite the fact that we are on the same campus, we are NOT the same.


                       %!!$G
Xref: sparky alt.smouldering.dog.zone:85 soc.college:4798
From: slgsn@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.smouldering.dog.zone,soc.college
Subject: Re: Tipper
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:38:58 MDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Utah State University

In article <BxKJE2.IDr@unix.amherst.edu>, mcspinks@unix.amherst.edu (Snarfblat) writes:
> Hurkamur Platterflutterski (ivey@nmt.edu) wrote:
> : I need to know Tipper Gore's real first name.  I need to know by
> : Wednesday!  I challenge you to answer this query, don't disappoint me!
> : 
> : -tom
> 
> 
> Tippernicus

I approve. We all approve! This has been a whopping good time, and damnit, I
shall return. You hear me out there Terra? I will
returnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn...


%!!$C
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From: slgsn@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.smouldering.dog.zone,alt.flame
Subject: Re: Smouldering dogs in Vermnot?!
Date: 13 Nov 92 19:12:03 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Nov12.234734.1800@nmt.edu>, ivey@nmt.edu (Hurkamur Platterflutterski) writes:
> In article <BxL8s8.2GH@world.std.com> kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov11.190301.60736@cc.usu.edu> slgnj@cc.usu.edu writes:
>>>In article <1992Nov11.183301.60726@cc.usu.edu>, slgsn@cc.usu.edu writes:
>>>> "Hey, Drew, what the Hell did you do with YOUR smoldering dog last weekend? I
>>>> let mine burn until it was a black corn-flake all over the place...IN VERMONT
>>>> !"
>>>
>>>IN VERMONT!?!?!?
>>
>>Following up to your own posts is a sign that you need to join the
>>Scientologists RIGHT NOW!  Don't just walk, RUN over to
>>alt.religion.scientology, and take the Free Personality Test!
>>
>>							-- K.
> 
> vermont sucks
Look dipshit, if you would so kindly read the reply A LITTLE MOER CAREFULLY you
would find that the guy who responded has a code which is a bit different. He
is my room-mate and our codes are virtually the same-his:slgnj mine:slgsn


Get a clue, worthless piece of soap-jelly!

Newsgroups: alt.smouldering.dog.zone,alt.flame
From: kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry)
Subject: Re: Smouldering dogs in Vermnot?!
Organization: Two rooms filled with typography, in downtown Boston
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:33:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.190301.60736@cc.usu.edu> slgnj@cc.usu.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.183301.60726@cc.usu.edu>, slgsn@cc.usu.edu writes:
>> "Hey, Drew, what the Hell did you do with YOUR smoldering dog last weekend? I
>> let mine burn until it was a black corn-flake all over the place...IN VERMONT
>> !"
>
>IN VERMONT!?!?!?

Following up to your own posts is a sign that you need to join the
Scientologists RIGHT NOW!  Don't just walk, RUN over to
alt.religion.scientology, and take the Free Personality Test!

							-- K.


Newsgroups: alt.flame,talk.abortion
From: keegan@acm.rpi.edu (James G. Keegan Jr.)
Subject: wow!
Organization: T.S.A.K.C.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:16:46 GMT

cj@eno.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio) writes:
->I agree-- which is why I condemn Keegan

wow! cj really gets bitchy when you catch her lying,
doesn't she?
From: ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Will Steeve's Reprehensible Attitude <period>
Date: 9 Nov 92 01:18:26 GMT
Organization: Netcom, San Jose, California

bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com writes ...
>Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org> writes:
># Oh, so you THAT'S what you think?  Men should only be sperm donors,
># AND wallets, and then you can throw them away like a used condom, eh?
>
>Ah, my favorite peeve.  I just *LOVE* it when supposedly enlightened
>men complain about feminists, and, in the same breath, whine and
>moan about how society devalues them by reducing them to sperm donors
>and wallets.

Yeah Will.  You shouldn't speak in that tone of voice to the ladies!

:-)

-- 
Ray Fischer                   "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth
ray@netcom.com                 than lies."  -- Friedrich Nietszsche
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: samant@tartarus.uchicago.edu (Tushar Samant)
Subject: Re: I got an idea!!  Use a killfile!
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Chicago
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:48:59 GMT


ckincy@mcs213c.cs.umr.edu (Charles Kincy) writes:
>samant@tartarus.uchicago.edu (Tushar Samant) writes:
>>Listen all you senile buffers out there ...
>
>I got a novel idea for ya:
>
>[breath-takingly novel idea]
>
>Now, quit whining and get to work, you disciple of loserhood!
>
>cpk

Kincy, may I suggest you read postings before following up to them? 
There are people who do that regularly, believe it or not. Thanks 
very much for your valuable thoughts on the subject of killfiles, 
and I will definitely send you a check for double their worth, which 
is three nano-cents.

The reason why I am replying to this is the small hope that you just
might understand that this is a question of the purity of a group, not 
an individual's kill files.

But seeing that you contribute enthusiastically to the K e n thread,
I am not VERY sanguine.

I hope you understand, dumbass moron.

Sincerely,
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: vsg001@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Re: Why Clinton
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:59:44 GMT

In article <1379@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>, libwca@emory.edu (Bill Anderson) writes:
> weverett@jarthur.claremont.edu (William M. Everett) writes:
> I only used 'em once, Sunny-Jim. You seem to think Georgie meant
> something entirely different by his remark- care to favor me with
> your interpretation?  Seemed pretty clear to me, but then I'm a 
> wooly-headed, soft-brained lefty pinko...

I would also add spineless worm, bleeding heart, baby killing, tree hugging,
anti-business, anti-prosperity, big government, tax and spend,
Kill-a-human-to-save-an-owl, Jeffrey Dahmer saving, god fearing, LIBERAL. 

But that's just my opinion.

--The Phantom
From: christian@Turing.ORG (Christian Claiborn)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Why Clinton
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:38:47 GMT
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.

In article <kmr4.122.721070105@po.CWRU.edu> kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M Ryan) writes:
>In article <63.2AF95C84@business.fidonet.org> Leonard.Kinerson@p0.f110.n363.z1.fidonet.org (Leonard Kinerson) writes:
>>Are There any people out there that voted For Clinton
>>If So WHY!!!!!!!!!
>>I would realy like to know 
>>Thanks
>
>	I certainly would not vote for Bush: why?
>
>1) Coodles communistic countries: 

Um, not that I'm not with you, but it's spelled Coddles.

Coodles make your hair all itchy and make the boy in 5th grade make fun of you.
Trust me, I had them.

>	2) Coodles inhuman tyrants.
>
>	Suddam Hussein

Saddam Hussein.  Suddam is a condition brought about by autoerotic 
asphyxiation.  Trust me.  It happened to me.


Just nit-picking.

						Christian
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From: weverett@jarthur.claremont.edu (William M. Everett)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Why Clinton
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:04:00 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711

In article <1387@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> libwca@emory.edu (Bill Anderson) writes:

	< Whining complaints about the length of my posts deleted>

>Willy, your point is granted.  President George Herbert 
>Walker Bush never came right out and said "I don't think
>atheists should be citizens."  What we got here, however,
>is a distinction without a difference; he *did* say that 
>he felt there was some doubt as to whether atheists should
>be citizens, and that statement, in and of itself, is really,
>really scary, since it implies a complete lack of understanding
>of the Constitution; which, the opinion of Spirit or Caspar or
>whatever he calls himself notwithstanding, the President had
>really oughta understand.

	What he said is that he personally has doubts about it. This is not
the same thing as saying that he would act to take away citizenship. If you
honestly believe he, or the Republican party in general, would do this, then
you obviously don't know very much about political reality. 
	You have to realize that most of this type of rhetoric is just to
curry favor with the religious right. I personally don't agree with it, but I
don't really worry about it because I realize that it isn't going to be 
translated into action.

>As for my "unoriginal" insults; supposing I just call you a
>nit-picking, thick-skulled ultra-right-wing fanatic and be
>done with it?
>Bill
	Not much better, and I thought you were improving. I do like the
sound of 'ultra-right-wing fanatic' though...

William Everett				Tan, Rested and Ready
					Nixon in '96
From: jmb14@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: SPAM I AM, Cretin you are.
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:39:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Scranton

In article <Bx2y7q.5Gr@cmptrc.lonestar.org>, andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart) writes:
> 
>    SPAM.  It's not just a food product.  It's a way of life.
 
     CRETINOUS CRAWLER.  It's not just an insult.  It's what you are.

>    -- Andy

					Troll

P.S.  Gee Andy, where's Opie?  I didn't know you were down thar in Texass, the
biggest shithole in America.  Say hi to all of my loudmouth, ignorant, redneck,
hick texann fans like Rob and others too trivial too remember.  Much obliged.
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: samant@tartarus.uchicago.edu (Tushar Samant)
Subject: Time to retire, assholes. (was "reason to exist" or some such fuck)
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 04:03:39 GMT

Listen all you senile buffers out there, Darcy and Keegan and rest
of the homeys. There is a slim chance that one of your incestuous
family will actually take time off to read this instead of brownnosing
each other as usual and I am banking on that to make a growing opinion 
heard.

It's time someone told you you aren't appreciated here anymore. It's
a shame that someone not a regular poster has to spell this out to you.
You are spent, you fail to hold anyone's interest, you are lamer than
kids-talk. Get the fuck out of here. It's a reasonable request.

alt.flame has gone to hell in the last few months. The dimwit darcies
are to blame. Having had a Pnews installed in your system a decade ago
doesn't imply that you know what the net is about. Observe it for a
decade more to see if any clue skullfucks its way into your heads and 
in the meantime stop boring discerning readers silly.

There is nothing more yawn-inducing than Darcy contesting Lefty's proof
that Garvin supported Keegan's assertion that Darcy denied Lefty's
approval of Garvin's justification of Keegan's statement. Start a new
group for old farts and move your asses there if you must. You can lick
each other's spittle-flecked lips with no attempt on your privacy. Just
don't flood alt.flame with your geriatric dandruff-caked drool-soaked 
love letters.

If you don't know how to create a new group, please take your crap to 
misc.jobs.offered.

The Society for Amputation of Kebbie's Cojones is oh so very cute and a
lot of unh, usc and wpi freshmen are even impressed by it but frankly 
speaking it's now full of alzheimered fuckwits. Dissolve it and the net 
will thank you brokenly for getting rid of its biggest embarrassment.

Claim veteran status and step down honorably while the going's good, in-
stead of trying everyone's patience. If you do it now, you will be pensioned
off satisfactorily. Maybe I should explain that that's better than eventually
running away whimpering with your tail between your legs. It's high time 
some fresh faces hanged out here.

It's time to retire, assholes.


For the purity of the flame I have for once posted,
Sincerely,
From: andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Cast your vote: Troll vs. Lara
Summary: James applies for a job as K e n replacement.
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:10:03 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

(James A. Cherry) writes:
>
>  [Standard sycophantic KEN imitation deleted]
>
>--
>James A. Cherry                                         "Deal with it, pal!"

 
 Congratulations, James!  Those guys in misc.jobs.offered *LOVE* it 
 when geeks post stuff to their group.

 You must be getting LOTS of job offers already!

 Is Kenneth's position as alt.flame moron open?  I *haven't* heard 
 from him lately.

 -- Andy
Newsgroups: alt.flame