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Subject: Re: Series info wanted
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 16:49:39 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

svenema@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (Sven Venema) writes:

> I am just wondering exactly how far behind the rest of the world we are over
> here in Australia wrt the ST:TNG series. I know we must be WAY behind because
> some of the characters mentioned here I haven't even heard of yet... 
> 
> Last week, I saw an episode of TNG (which I don't know the name of) which had
> Will Riker beamed aboard a Klingon ship and join their crew for a while. 
> There was something to do with some sort of space virus that was busily 
> eating through the ship's hull...
> 
> I would be very grateful if someone could tell me what series I am currently 
> watching and how much of this series is left to go. 
> 
> Thanks.
> -- 
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Sounds to me like the episode "A Matter of Honor", which was in season
2.  You have three more seasons to go in order to catch up.  We are
now awaiting the start of season 6.  And impatiently, at that.  :)
It's too bad you folks overseas have to wait so long to get the episodes.
But then again, we have to wait quite a while here in America to get
Red Dwarf from England.  Southern California has only broadcast series
1 through 3, and I hear that they've produced through series 5.  So are
we a globel village??  Or just a global village with a long waiting
period. :-)


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Catherine Beckstead                    ace@kryton.uucp
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NINE on the Richter scale?"        --Ace, in "Dragonfire"
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From: asher@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (Marnita Asher)
Subject: Re: Season premiere : Phanengi unleash "nude bomb" on federation.
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 05:55:11 GMT

In article <7913@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> you write:
>That's right! See 'em all in the buff! Fortunately, the bomb has no effect
>on Klingons.

Hey, hey!  There are those of us out here who wouldn't mind seeing a nude
Klingon or two.

Marnita
From: mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Relics and transporter trace question (spoiler?)
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:45:21 GMT


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Ok, I give.  What's a "transporter trace" and how will this help Scotty to 
appear on the Big-E?

Also, a comment on the Bourbon/Saurian Brandy note:  Scotty does too drink other
drinks besides Scotch whiskey.  We saw this in STVI:TUC, where they were all
drinking Romulan ale.  Also in TOS, Scotty used various types of booze to 
"humanize" the alien.  The episode was "By Any Other Name" and the aliens were 
called ___________?  (Sorry, I used to know)

Sky Warrior

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From: jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Romulans as Borg?
Summary: Follow-up to Borg as Humans
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:36:57 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

Okay, I have heard about Vendetta, I will read it.  I have also had a lot of
people mention assimilating only races not individuals.  My respose to this
is that in "The Neutral Zone" it was shown that the Borg took away some
Romulan outposts.  Where are these people?  

The best response that I received about the Borg is the fact that they change
the DNA of the host body.  It is probable that they have taken many other
humanoid races and just altered their DNA.  Anyway, it is an interesting
point.  Thanks for all the replies-  

-- 
          "Death rewards those who survive the Disease of Life" 
        "One must understand human nature before it can be conquered!" 
    Eric Jeffery (jeffery@ucsu.colorado.edu) StarBase Express (303)450-2454
From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: warp drive and other 10-step scales (silly)
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:25:06 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <9JuHqB5w164w@kryton.UUCP> ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead) writes:

>> Sometimes when I am driving, I image my speedometer to be a warp scale
>> (10 mph = 1 warp step).  Free way cruising is around warp 6 or 7.
>> Passing speed is around warp 8 or 9.  Maximum velocity of my auto is
>> around warp 10, but I've never tried it.

>Ahh so you can't go passed warped 10 either.  Makes perfect sense.  I
>guess the TNG writers were correct about the warp 10 barrier.  :-)

Sorry, dude, but by that scale, I've taken my car to beyond warp
12!!!!

"If you've got it, flaunt it!"

8-P

-- 
Jorge Diaz                       | Sign in a restaurant:
Georgia Institute of Technology  | 
Office of Information Technology |   "We reserve the right to serve refuse to
ccoprdj@prism.gatech.edu         |        anyone."
From: jpennell@axion.bt.co.uk (John Pennell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re:Borg GIF
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:01:08 GMT
Reply-To: jpennell@axion.bt.co.uk (John Pennell)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


Okay,

enough interest obtained.  I will post the GIF to this newsgroup and,
from the loveliness of my heart (I am not a Vulcan), I will also post
the GIF to anyone who E-Mails me who cannot connect to Net.

It may take a couple of days, I have accidentally archived the GIF somewhere ...
Oh, the pressures of work ..... Back soon, GIFS an' all.

Jon Pennell


jpennell@axion.bt.co.uk
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From: jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT)
Subject: Re: If the Borg were....
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:40:56 GMT

>..at the neutral zone "ref-The Neutral Zone (season 1) and Q Who (Season 3?)"
>what are some explanations for them taking so long to wipe out the FED,
>the romulans, and other races in that area. It seems that they were in
>a highly populated center of the Galaxy but were never seen.
>
>Does anyone have some valid reasons for this?

In Best of Both Worlds Pt. 1 it is mentioned that when the Enterprise D ran
into the Borg at JT-5 it was 7,000 lt. years away.  They were all surprised
to see them so soon.  As for why the Romulans, Klingons, and other races
did not pose a threat to the Borg, I do not know. 
-- 
"What is happiness, after all, but the fleeting, transitory butterfly of an
emotion that is impossible to catch and hold for long before it flies away"
             Margaret Weis "Star of the Guardians" Volume 3
    Eric Jeffery (jeffery@ucsu.colorado.edu) StarBase Express (303)450-2454
From: holland@crisium.geop.ubc.ca (Stephen Holland)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Enterprise Stinks!
Date: 30 Aug 92 18:55:50 GMT
Expires: Oct. 31, 1992.
Distribution: all
Organization: University of B.C. Geophysics & Astronomy

In article <1992Aug30.040058.9340@news.unomaha.edu> tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo) writes:
>rtiger@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>> 
>> All-
>> 
>> I must say once and for all that I think that the Starship Enterprise is the
>> most ridiculous looking starship ever dreamed up by people in Hollywood/dead
>> authors/etc.
>> 
>> I mean, let's be realistic.  First off, it has a frisbee shaped top. 
>> Considering there isn't much friction in space, why not go with a big cylinder,
>> and get more square feet for your money?  Then, we have to toothpick shaped
>> things which I assume house the "engines" (boy, when was the last time the
>> Enterprise stopped for gas) and the "torpedoes" (which make that cool blastoff
>> sound even in the midst of a vacuum).
>> 
>> Let's be real.  They should all be in something much more practical and
>> economical.  This current design sucks.
>> 
>> Roy Tiger.
>	Oh, boy!!  My first flame!!  If you don't like the ship, then don't
>watch the show, don't waste our time by telling us about what you dont' like
>about the show because maybe some of us don't care what you think!!  
>It takes an imagination to think of something as complex as this show. 
> Maybe you should get one.  And if you knew what you were talking about, the
>Enterprise doesn't use "gas".  If you think you know so much, why don't you
>go and tell them yourself.  I, and I'm sure others agree, do not need nor 
>desire to hear what you have to say.  The Enterprise is not just a ship on
>a television show.  If you were a REAL Trekker, you would know what the ship
>means to a lot of people.  
>						Jeff
>-- 
>|Jeffrey S. Jo                  |	       U.S.S. Enterprise              |
>|Computer Operations		| Galaxy Class - Starfleet Registry NCC-1701-D|
>|University of Nebraska at Omaha|        Utopia Planitia Fleet Yards, Mars    |
>|tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu        |             Launched Stardate 40759.5       |

I like this thread!  The infantile admonishing the anally retentive.
Could we perhaps move this to rec.humour.funny?  There hasn't been a
good original joke in there in months.

steve holland
(who will probably regret posting this when he checks his e-mail
 tomorrow morning)
.
From: quirk@pioneer.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Enterprise Stinks!
Date: 4 Sep 92 00:28:45 GMT
Organization: Space and Planetary Image Facility

In article <matt.715562313@unidata.ucar.edu> matt@unidata.ucar.edu (Matt Hicks) writes:
>>Probalbly in a love den somewhere...and freeing their minds with "LDS" :-)
>>It was conceived in the 60's after all! 
>
>I know, I know, you're never supposed to post just to correct someone's
>spelling, but "LDS"?! You spell it when you say it, and if you can't
>do one, you can't do the other. To quote Julie Brown: "I can't spell VW,
>but I drive a Porsche."

Maybe you should rent ST-IV again...

>Matthew  B.  Hicks     | Unidata Program Center | ((ovo))  The spotted owl:
>matt@unidata.ucar.edu  | UCAR, PO Box 3000      | ():::()  the other "other


-- 
Capt. Gym Z. Quirk  (Known to some as Taki Kogoma)  quirk@pioneer.unm.edu
 I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to
                          what I have now...
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From: rccarm00@mik.uky.edu (ron c carman)
Subject: Re: "Sanctuary" (new book)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:39:51 GMT

cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman) says:
>
>Short summary (no spoiler) : The BEST Star Trek book ever written.
>
>Buy it. You won't be sorry.

   Well, I don't think it's the "best" Star Trek book ever written by
any stretch of the imagination ('Masks' easily wins over 'Sanctuary',
and even 'Contamination' competes).
   And it's not the *worst* Trek novel ever written either -- L.A. Graf
undoubtedly gets the title of WORST Trek author.
   The main trouble I had with 'Sanctuary' was that it seemed to get off
to a very slow start.

*Spoilers* ahead... steer clear if you don't want to be spoiled


   One of the main things I've always liked about Star Trek is that
it's entertainment that generally makes you think (Exceptions of
course can be found, i.e. "Cost of Living")...
   If this novel had a theme, it would have to be "Don't let NASA/govt
take space away from us".  That theme, however, was stated better in
the foreword than in the rest of the book, and there seemed to be no
underlying themes/issues otherwise.
   After the first half of the book is dispensed with, the rest is
more entertaining, and lively.  The only interesting twist in the plot
is that Renna ultimately decided to stay on the planet, instead of
escaping with Kirk et al...

   Over all, I'd say this was a mildly interesting adventure; no more
and no less.  It was better than the last TOS novel published... but
then, that's not saying much...

RC Carman
 
   
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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Was TOS really that bad? (Re: TOS actors)
Date: 30 Aug 92 21:39:02 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <1992Aug28.131801.28368@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
>I don't think it's fair to make a blanket statement about acting
>on either show. True, TOS had no one in the same league as
>Patrick Stewart. On the other hand, with people like Nimoy and Kelly
>on the old show, I can't accept a blanket statement that the acting
>was unnoteworthy on the old show. Nor can I accept a blanket statement
>that the acting is "excellent" on the new show. There are *several*
>excellent performers there, but on the other hand, people like Frakes,
>Sirtis, McFadden, Meaney and Burton are just average as far as I can
>see; and the semiregular band includes some *really bad* performers
>(like Chao, Barrett and a certain Klingon child.) 

Actually I think that Levar Burton is a very good actor, but he's been near-
consistently handed abysmal material to work with, and he's not so good that
he can turn urine into wine.  (On TNG, only Stewart is *that* good, I think.)

-- 
Michael Rawdon	    rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu  [Note new address!]
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

The Trekkie who doesn't own a VCR.
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From: eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson)
Subject: Re: Pardom my ignorance
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 08:44:18 GMT

In article <990@dgaust.dg.oz> brown@dgaust.dg.oz (Fred Brown) writes:
>And any typos...
>Can someone tell me what series Star Trek:TNG is up to ? (ie: 5th etc)
>And, how many episodes have been made so far ??
>Our local commercial station, GTV9 has the TV rights to TNG from the
>2nd series onwards and Star Trek viewers are treated with contempt by
>them eg: originally aired here 8.30pm on Wednesday nights, episodes
>from the 2nd & 3rd series shown out of sequence: reason given "Selected
>episodes were chosen for viewer impact by our progammers", TNG now airs
>at 11.30 pm Thursday nights with the reason given that programming laws
>require them (GTV9) to show more Australian produced content at the 8.30
>timeslot....what a crock of sh*t !!! I wish GTV9 would dump the goddamned
>rights so we could get the seires back on video ! At least we used to get 
>the episodes in order and 2-4 times a month (no ads!)...please reply to
>this newsgroup and not myself as this profile has been set up for me by
>someone who knows what he's doing, I'm just a hack and can only view
>these messages at this stage
>Thanks 
>Fred Brown DGA South Melbourne Victoria Australia 

As far as showing selected epiisodes is concerned....
Well, all I can say is that you could be lucky.  The first season of TNG
was _almost_ unrelentingly awful, with lots of preaching and little action.
Even Paramount's people sheepishly acknowledged that at a recent con in
Portland, Oregon, USA.  (They sort of looked embarassed and said, "We think
it is common knowledge that it took the series about a season and a half to
find it's voice."  That is a quote.)  Your local station could be
screening out the dogs on the theory that if they showed all the episodes
they would lose some viewers who wouldn't stick around till the show
improved.  And it did improve.

Just a thought.  On the other hand, they could be Denevian slime-devils 
with no redeeming social conscience, too, I suppose...


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From: afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Subject: Re: a little controversy on the episode: the perfect mate
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
Date: 27 Aug 1992 16:17 EST  

In article <JH25PB7w164w@kryton.UUCP>, ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead) writes...

>> So, Picard sleeping with `someone like Vash/Vache' is *in* character, but 
>> sleeping with someone `sexually indentured to another' *isn't* ? Sounds 
>> like he's setting up a dangerously sexist double standard here. Perhaps we 
>> have just gotten an insight into *Stewart's* beliefs !
>> 
>> Besides, he can always claim that he was `setting her free' at the court 
>> martial ! :-)
> 
>Actually, I think the "out of character" part was sleeping with someone
>who was betrothed to someone else.  

I don't know ... I kinda liked my term `indentured'. There is a big 
difference in *this* man's mind between hitting on a woman who has already 
*chosen* a mate or SO, and hitting on one who is `promised' to someone with 
no *choice* about it. Giving *both* of them `monkey' status isn't *quite* 
right... she was to be *his* monkey, but he was *clearly* to be *her* 
master. 

>Picard would not monkey with another monkey's monkey.  :)

Well, despite my joke about freeing her, which I *didn't* mean should be 
used as a justification for jumping into bed (heck, her looks were 
justification enough :-)), it wouldn't be out of character for Picard, once 
having fallen in love with her, to feel like he ought to help her see the *
lunacy* in going through with the arrangement. His `love' for the prime 
directive would, of course, keep him from pursuing that course *directly*, 
but I have to believe that his stomach was turned by the cold-bloodedness 
of the whole thing. Where's the passion ? Where's the romance ??

Where's the damn `exit' key in this editor ... :-)

-- Stephen

	"Some people live their dreams, some people close their eyes.
	 Some people's destiny... passes by"

					I'll Be Over You  -- Toto
From: brian_vickers@isd.jpl.nasa.gov (Brian Vickers)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: STTNG Season SIX Broadcast Schedule
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:40:49 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory

In article <8322@orbit.cts.com>, chris@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Jacobson)
wrote:
> 
> 
>                         STAR TREK:  THE NEXT GENERATION
>                          Season Six Broadcast Schedule
>                                September 1992
> 
> Dates indicate the day of satellite uplink, 'PC' denotes Paramount Code, and
> 'R' denotes Repeat.  Stardates will be added when known.
> 
> Ep    Date      PC   Stardate      Title
> ----  --------  ---  ------------  -----------------------------------------
> 127.  09/19/92  227                Time's Arrow II
> 128.  09/26/92  228                Realm of Fear
> 129.  10/03/92  229                Man of the People
> 130.  10/10/92  230                Relics
> 131.  10/17/92  231                Schisms
> 132.  10/24/92  232                Q-Me
> 
> 

Does anyone have plot synopsises (sp?) for these?

-- Brian
brian_vickers@isd.jpl.nasa.gov
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From: bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs)
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to..?
Reply-To: bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 03:55:32 GMT


In a previous article, lpfaig@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu () says:

>Can anyone tell me what happened to Kirk by the time of the TNG?
>Has he ever really been mentioned? (Besides in 'Unification')
>I may have missed it somewhere
>
We don't know.  Rumor has it that a hint or two will be dropped in 
"Relics" --- the Scotty epsode.
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From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: Re: TOS: KIRK'S BIRTHPLACE--IOWA
Keywords: i'm a doctor, jim, not a mechanic
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:52:15 GMT

Along the same lines, we fans should get together and put a sign in San
Fransisco's Presido "future site of Starfleet HQ".  The Presido is a 100
year old military base being converted into civilian control.  Last I heard
it was mostly going to be a park with some of the old military buildings
rented to non-profit organizations like the Fort Mason area.
From: cjp53999@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Cory James Padfield)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Dancing teacher (Was: WHO IS HOTTER...)
Date: 28 Aug 92 23:52:38 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:

>> In article <Bto84C.4qn@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cjp53999@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Cory James Padfield) writes:
>>>
>>>Also, Data's dance partner
>>>when he needed to learn how to dance with Keiko was VERY good looking.
>>>These are about all I can think of. Responses, except for flames of course,
>>>are welcome.
>>>
>> I thought Data's dance partner was Denise Crosby because he sort of had
>> a thing for her.  It looked a lot like her.

>If you mean the woman who gave Data dancing lessons in "Data's Day", that was
>none other than "the Dancing Docter" herself:  Beverly Crusher.  She teaches
>Data to tap dance before he tells her that he wants to prepare to dance at the
>wedding.

>Ciao.
>Gabor.

>-- 
>    g  b    gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca	"We come in Peace, shoot to kill,
>gggg   b    Victoria, B. C.	 	 We come in Peace, shoot to kill, men"
>g  g t b    (God's waiting room)		_Star Trekking_, The Firm
>ggggtttbbbb  
>   g t b  b 		"If I had a rocket launcher
>g  g t bbbb		 If I had a rocket launcher,
>gggg  tt        	 some son of a bitch would die"  B. Cockburn



     No, I do not mean the tap dancing instructor- I know that was Bev. i was
referring to the holodeck created blond he danced with after Bev left for
a medical emergency. Anyone able to help???

Regards,
Cory
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From: ssubrama@dante.nmsu.edu (SUBRAMANIAM)
Subject: Re: a little controversy on the episode: the perfect mate
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Distribution: rec.arts.startrek.current
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:19:25 GMT

>Hee hee, this is simple: the word "kamala" is Finnish, and literally
>means "horrible". No wonder Picard won't sleep with her :)
>
Don't be so sure.  Kamala is also an Indian word.  It means lotus-like, which
means intelligent and beautiful.

Siva