HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ecarroll@maths.tcd.ie (Eddy Carroll)
Subject: Re: 1200/75 Comms Progs
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 02:34:49 GMT

ridder@zowie.zso.dec.com (Hans) writes:
>My guess is that it sets the port for 1200 baud, and transmits at
>75 baud using timed "breaks."  I don't know if it's possible to do this
>in a hardware independent manner....  Most probably it hits the hardware
>directly.

It is indeed possible to do this in a hardware independent manner,
assuming that the OS can transmit characters as a continuous stream
with no breaks inbetween each character (usually true).

The general technique is to transmit a block of 16 characters at 1200
baud which look similar to the bit-pattern generated by a single
character sent at 75 baud. It's not perfect, but it works reliably with
most 1200/75 modems out there. If anyone wants some example code,
drop me a line.

Eddy
-- 
Eddy Carroll      ----* Genuine MUD Wizard  | "You haven't lived until you've
Internet: ecarroll@maths.tcd.ie             |  died in MUD!" -- Richard Bartle
From: slmt9@cc.usu.edu (Joshua Dinerstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Can ARexx control Commodores TCP/IP software?
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:23:21 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

	I need some help!

	A good friend of mine needs to run some commands on a local machine
every morning at 6:00. Now while this might not seem bad to some of you he has
no desire to get up at 5:00am every morning to get to school to do it by hand.

	Jeff is using the commodore ethernet card and software setup. What Jeff
wants to do is to use ARexx or some similar program to control the RLogin
software so that it will take care of it automatically.

	Do any of you know if this is even possible. I tried to help him but I
am not an ARexx man so it did not turn out to well.

	Any help or ideas would be great!

	Joshua
	SLMT9@cc.usu.edu

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        - Some Guy on some comody show
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: DNet latest version? where?
From: hoffmann@nutmeg.ntu.edu.au (Arthur Hoffmann)
Date: 22 Dec 92 17:34:13 +0900H
Distribution: world
Organization: Information Technology, Northern Territory University

Hi, I would like to know which is the latest version of DNet and where it is
availble. I also would be interested in other programmes that let me connect
my Amiga through modem to my Unix account. What are the pro's and con's of these
programmes. 
Thanks alot.

Arthur.

					Arthur Hoffmann
					hoffmann@nutmeg.ntu.edu.au.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: VLT and capture buffer filter?
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Date: 31 Dec 92 20:04:08 PST
Organization: TAP

Quoted from <C03orI.HIE@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> by wglp09@scsa1.slac.stanford.edu (W.G.J. Langeveld):

> Why don't you use the review buffer? Its window comes up on the VLT screen, and
> it has scroll bars. Also, it has its own menus, and allows you highlight things 

    One inconvenience in the review buffer is that it can lose
    information, because it tries to show the state of the "screen",
    overwriting data if the cursor moves up the screen and zaps
    something. It's a feature that is also very useful sometimes.

> W.G.J. Langeveld - SLAC | Internet: wglp09@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu
--
*** John Bickers, TAP.                   jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz ***
***    "Radioactivity - It's in the air, for you and me" - Kraftwerk    ***
From: bj371@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Marc Tooley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Binaries/Sources
Date: 24 Dec 1992 20:48:01 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bj371@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Marc Tooley)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


 Hmm.. I just visited the binaries/sources sections for Amiga, and neither
have anything in them. Perhaps the mail reader here is faulty? Or is no one
posting anything?

Marc
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: VLT and capture buffer filter?
Date: 31 Dec 92 19:30:10 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: glia.biostr.washington.edu

In <C03wHF.9t@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason 'KodaK' Balicki) writes:

>In article <crystal.725769972@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>>But the capture file has everything in the proper order, just filled with
>>control characters.  I would like to eliminate the capture of these characters.
>>If the review buffer can filter them out, why not the capture file section?
>>
>>Seems like such a filter should be available for BOTH parts.

>My, we are quite the clueless newbie, aren't we. :) (I wont bring up a
>certian "sample" discussion, that would be cruel. :)

One cannot learn unless they ask questions. 
And one cannot teach unless, through the process of answering, they generate
more curiosity.
Eventually the student is able to conceptualize on their own, but they never
truly lose their curiosity.
For as long as they are willing to learn, the circle remains unbroken...

>Use the capture file, then.  Get a vi clone and edit out the control
>characters.

I already *DO* (time-consummingly) edit them out - but I shouldn't HAVE to.
That's the POINT.  If the review buffer can filter them, WHY can't the
capture buffer?  I *know* such a thing is possible because I've used other
communications programs on MAC/IBM/Apple][ that DID!

Now, if someone would be so kind as to exlpain why this is not possible on
an Amiga (rather than tell me to do something else), then I'd love to hear
about it... :>

>>Crystal
>>  ;>

>--Jason Balicki
>kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: VLT and capture buffer filter?
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Date: 2 Jan 93 10:37:46 PST
Organization: TAP

Quoted from <paulk.31g0@terapin.com> by paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz):

> > Because quite often one doesn't WANT to filter out the Esc
> > sequences from the captured data.
>  
> Why does "doesn't WANT" = can't?

    That depends on the author. I know when I'm writing software that
    people aren't paying for, "don't want" definitely equals "won't
    do".

    My own limited experience is that some comms programs will always
    strip Esc sequences and so on, even when you don't want them to.
    Even to the extent of stripping out Tabs.
--
*** John Bickers, TAP.                   jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz ***
***    "Radioactivity - It's in the air, for you and me" - Kraftwerk    ***
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: jbw@ponder.csci.unt.edu (WEST JASON BRUCE)
Subject: DNET, UUCP - HELP!   [please read]
Organization: University of North Texas, Denton
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 11:10:16 GMT

    I have been using VLT and doing everything off my Unix system - but my
Unix system really sucks.  I would like to have clients and software on
my Amiga side.  I have a 14.4k modem - but only a 2400 baud dial-up and an
A3000 with 2.4.

* What is DNet?  What do I need to use it?  How much does it cost?  What are
  it's advantages?

* What is UUCP?  What do I need to use it? How much does it cost?  What are
  it's advantages?



Thanks a million, in advance.

Ciao...



                                                       - Jason
From: ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Shareware for A500 modem comm w/VT100 emulation
Date: 29 Dec 92 10:15:25 -0800
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <awm.725637797@at1147>, awm@at1147 (Art Mansky) writes:
> 
> I am looking for a freeware/shareware communication program that will let me
> use my Amiga 500 and modem as a VT100-like terminal to call into other systems
> via telephone.  I guess it needs to let me control the modem (dial, hangup,
> etc.) and emulate a VT100 (or other VT series) terminal.  Thanks.

Without trying to start the bi-monthly my-term-program-is-better-than-your-term-
program war, I'll put my pitch in for VLT.  Available from the Fish library, it
offers full VT100 emulation except for double-wide/double-height characters. 
There is absolutely no charge to use this program and a printed manual is
available absolutely free of charge from SLAC (when you get your VLT
distribution, there is even a pull-down entry on how to get your VLT manual).

VLT includes ARexx support and support for external protocol libraries (xpr). 
XPR libraries are available for kermit, zmodem, xmodem, and others.

I use VLT almost daily to communicate with a VAX/VMS cluster and have been
satisfied with it for several years.  I've used others - HandShake, TERM,
VT100, and JRcomm - and always come back to VLT.

VLT is also available via ftp on the author's site, ftp.slac.stanford.edu in
the directory pub/amiga/VLT5.576

-- 
Ed Wilts, BC Systems, 4000 Seymour Place, Victoria, B.C., Canada, V8X 4S8
EWilts@Galaxy.Gov.BC.CA     Office:  (604) 389-3430   Fax: (604) 389-3412
From: drool@retreat.Bah.Rochester.NY.US (Paul Coene)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: how do I mail to Genie? (was BIX?)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Distribution: world
Reply-To: drool@retreat.Bah.Rochester.NY.US
 <1992Dec11.163821.13485@tpl68k0.tplrd.tpl.oz.au>
 <Bz4HM0.7y8@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: 
Keywords: 
Summary: 
Date: 20 Dec 92 09:55:07 EST
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <15153@hq.hq.af.mil> snolan@postmaster@hq.af.mil (Scott D Nolan) writes:
> 
> Subject says it... I know lots of people without internet access.
> They do have GENIE, can I send them mail?  How do I do so?
> 
> Can they send me mail?  Does it cost? Who?

Just recently GEnie added internet support, but each member can choose
to pay for it on an acount by account basis.  So, unless the folks
you want to talk to are paying, you are out of luck.  

On a better note, basic GEnie is like 4.95 a month, and e-mail stuff
is free.  I am a member just for the E-mail to GEnie members.  And
if I really need something, their download area isnt bad and the
rates (off hours) for that aren't that bad either.

                                          <: Drool :>

ARPA: drool@retreat.Bah.Rochester.NY.US   UUCP: kodak!bisco!retreat!drool
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:8382 comp.sys.amiga.misc:19108
From: mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Binaries/Sources
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn-beta 1.16g (26.12.92) by Michael B. Smith & Mike Schwartz
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Date: 27 Dec 92 07:56:26 EST
Organization: Well, I haven't decided on a name yet...

In article <BzwHn7.37H@NeoSoft.com> peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
> In article <qt3cs*tN0@prolix.apana.org.au> dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton) writes:
> > Nobody is posting anything, and nobody is collecting anything.
> > Hasn't been for nearly a year now, which is only a little bit of
> > a shame.
>
> Sounds like it's time for my perennial offer to moderate these groups.

Who is the current "official" moderator?  Has any word been heard out of
him in the past few months?

I'm all for trying someone else.  I think you would be a good choice.

I so move.   :)

> When I was running alt.sources.amiga I would check every program to make
> sure it compiled on Aztec. Now that SAS and Aztec have diverged, I don't
> think I need to do that any more.

I wouldn't think so. The available dialects have also expanded.  DICE is a
major force these days, and GCC is growing in popularity.
--
  //   Michael B. Smith
\X/    mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us  -or-  uunet.uu.net!virginia.edu!adastra!mbs
From: ekrieger@quasar.hacktic.nl (Eric Krieger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: What differences: BaudBandit.device & serial.device?
Date: 24 Dec 92 14:33:22 GMT+1
Distribution: world
Organization: Not an Organization
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <15154@hq.hq.af.mil> snolan@postmaster@hq.af.mil
 (Scott D Nolan) writes:

> What does baudbandit.device do that serial.device does not do?

Taken from the Doc:

  The BaudBandit is a replacement for the original serial.device
  allowing you to drive your serial port at baud rates up to 115200
  Baud with a standard 68000 Processor in full multitasking.  Without
  any doubt the BaudBandit can be called "a little revolution" within
  the telecommunication scene on the Commodore Amiga.

  It is especially designed for use with high speed modems and supports
  full bidirectional RTS/CTS handshake and receive buffering.  This
  device will no longer bring your computer to a standstill when
  transferring a file at 14400 baud or more.  Compared to the
  serial.device, this program provides a speed increase of about 500%
  percent.


And in mine case it does work very well (i'm still using an A500/7.1 MHz).

> What do I lose if I use it instead of serial.device?

xOn/xOff support, and also Breaks aren't supported (but maybe this
will change in the future).  It runs only 8N1 RTS/CTS transfer, so
7E1, etc.  isn't supported either.

> Will I still be able to use JRComm and HandShake?
> What modifications will have to be made?

JR-Comm does work (perfectly) with BaudBandit.device, just rename
serial.device into BaudBandit.device (beware it's CASE-SENSITIVE!!)

But every communication-package which allow you to change the
serial-driver will run with BaudBandit.device.

And when there's a program which won't support user-definable
device-driver, you can use the QuickFix program which 'patches' some
verctors.

> Is BaudBandit.device free?  I think BaudBandit Comm is NOT!

BaudBandit.device is ShareWare (and has nothing to do with the
BandBandit Communication-package).  Register-fee is Dm20,- (about
$10,-).

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From: ekrieger@quasar.hacktic.nl (Eric Krieger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: What differences: BaudBandit.device & serial.device?
Date: 24 Dec 92 14:38:36 GMT+1
Distribution: world
Organization: Not an Organization
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1gqilnINNt8h@crcnis1.unl.edu> pdietz@cse.unl.edu
 (Phil Dietz) writes:

> snolan@postmaster@hq.af.mil (Scott D Nolan) writes:
> 
> >What does baudbandit.device do that serial.device does not do?
> >What do I lose if I use it instead of serial.device?
>  
> You Lose Xon/Xoff as well as BREAKS.  I personally use breaks everyday
> so I had to scrap baudbandit.device.

I understand.  But BREAKS will probably be supported in a next
(major) release.  Not everyone uses those BREAKS, and in some
applications it isn't required.

> >Is BaudBandit.device free?  I think BaudBandit Comm is NOT!
>  
> He requests a small donation of something like 5 bux.  I also told him
> to rename it so people wouldn't get confused with the commercial
> product BaudBandit, but alas...I guess he doesn't care.

Erhm, he *does* care (now?) :-) He will change the name of the
program shortly.  He's asked in some FidoNet Areas for some
good/proper names, and will pick one of them i suppose.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason 'KodaK' Balicki)
Subject: Re: VLT and capture buffer filter?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 00:01:39 GMT

In article <crystal.725830210@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:

Phew chick, what is this problem you have with jokes?

>>Use the capture file, then.  Get a vi clone and edit out the control
>>characters.

>I already *DO* (time-consummingly) edit them out - but I shouldn't HAVE to.
>That's the POINT.  If the review buffer can filter them, WHY can't the
>capture buffer?  I *know* such a thing is possible because I've used other
>communications programs on MAC/IBM/Apple][ that DID!

Bull.  "Talk" has so many control characters in it it's disgusting.  It
may be able to filter those that use the control characters in a linear
fassion, but it'd be impossible to do it with characters that control
cursor movements.  If you leave the characters in it would overwrite
everyting you do, and if you filter them out you'd still have to go
through and edit everything so that the actual text is in the right
order.

If you look at the review buffer you'll notice that after using "talk"
nothing is in the right order.  "Type"ing the capture buffer after 
using "talk" will give you an exact replay of everything that happened in
the "talk" session.

>Now, if someone would be so kind as to exlpain why this is not possible on

I hope I just did.  If you want something to be in the right order then
you HAVE to edit it.

>>>Crystal
>>>  ;>

--Jason Balicki
kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
From: sherlock@sleuth.eskimo.com (Jonathan Marsh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: uulib: config or uuconfig (ncomm)
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 21 Dec 92 10:43:38 PST
Organization: Perpetual Motion Machines Ltd.

In article <1992Dec18.160119.25091@rtsg.mot.com> earl@rtsg.mot.com (Brent R. Earl) writes:
> I am trying to set a locked serial port in ncomm2.0 (unregistered)
> and whenever I try, it brings up a requester for UULIB:config or
> ??:UUConfig.  Does anyone know what this is about?  Does this
> utility come with registration, or is it something I can ftp
> from somewhere?

    I use the same Ncomm & have never had that problem. I do have the lockserial
command in my path (in uucp:c) however.
-- 

    sherlock@sleuth.eskimo.com           Phone 206-782-4359
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: jbw@ponder.csci.unt.edu (WEST JASON BRUCE)
Subject: DNet QUESTION [PLEASE ANSWER]
Organization: University of North Texas, Denton
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 12:14:49 GMT

   I downloaded everything from Dnet I could find - but I'm pretty lost when
it comes to installation.  It seems the archive I got (2.2?) has like 3 or
4 CONTRADICTORY installation instructions in it, among other things.
   I'm one of the systems it is supposed to compile on (pretty sure) - but
I don't even know what to compile and hwere.  I know the amiga - so I can
probably figure that out.  But I'm no Unix wiz.

*   Can't I just get some Unix binaries somewhere and install them somewhere?

   If yes, where do I get them?  Can you send them?  If not, what the hell do
I do.  Dnet seems VERY cool - and I really want to use the IRC client I
d/led for Dnet.  So, how do I install this?  If there is an easy version to
install where do I get it.



PLEASE RESPOND VIA MAIL.  I'm desperate and tired, and can't figure this out :(


Any and all help is greatlly appreciated, thanks in advance.

Ciao...



                                        - Jason
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: VLT and capture buffer filter?
Date: 1 Jan 93 18:31:37 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: glia.biostr.washington.edu

In <jbickers.0md0@templar.actrix.gen.nz> jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:

>Quoted from <crystal.725830210@glia> by crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal):

>> That's the POINT.  If the review buffer can filter them, WHY can't the
>> capture buffer?  I *know* such a thing is possible because I've used other

>    Because quite often one doesn't WANT to filter out the Esc
>    sequences from the captured data. If you do, you are supposed to
>    use the review buffer.

Well, it seems that I have knack for marching to a different drummer and 
wanting to do things that others say can't be done, or that others can see
no use for.  I use my head and view the world through my own eyes, and just
because the MAJORITY doesn't want to be able to do what I want to do, doesn't
mean I have to accept a limitation that I *KNOW* does NOT exist.

And this incident using TALK and vi as examples shows that there is most 
definitely a bug in the system, since the review buffer can't handle it for
those who want to do what *I* want to do.

And it also shows that NOT everyone wants all that CTRL/ESC garbage in their
files, and that someone didn't even *think* about that possible condition.

If it happens with other program parts, then it *must* be possible.  

Crystal
  ;>
From: root@hybris.UUCP (Justin Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject:  looking for help with uucp!
Distribution: world
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:15:15 CST

--
I have installed AmigaUUCP 1.16D on my computer, and have received
a news feed from a very kind person.  Now, I need some help finding out
why UUPOLL crashes my system EVERY time I run it (I have resorted to making
a crontab full of UUCICO commands, which kinda sucks...).  Can someone
try to mail it (uupoll) to me?  (<if you email it, please send it on this
path:
justin%hybris%mmedia@tssi.com
to save my feeders from paying for a long LD call>)

I also would like information on 'UUSER:' that I am suppose to use for
remote shell access, but didn't come with the UUCP archive.

Thanks!!

---

                      ---==* Justin Richards *==---
Hybris.UUCP  Amiga500  9600 baud      UUCP:  ..mmedia!hybris!justin
INET:  br365@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu
From: chrisr@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Ringe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Term 2.4a bug?
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 04:42:54 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

I seem to have a problem with Term 2.4a INT.

@2400bps, any stealing of processor time from Term while downloading will
abort a ZMODEM transfer or corrupt data from a ZMODEM transfer.  I don't
believe that it is the XPR ZMODEM's fault.  Even moving the transfer window
around a few times will cause Term to abort the D/L.

I've had to download a couple files twice to get a uncorrupt version.  This
happends with more than one board as well.

I could MABEY see this happening at 38400bps, but not 2400.

Anyone else with this problem?

Chris Ringe       (VE6MCP)
St. Albert, Alberta, CANADA
MAIL: chrisr@ersys.edm.ab.ca
PHONE: (403) 460-PLAY/7529
From: Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: doors
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 12:21:51 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

I wrote two door, Space Empire(based on the Jon Radnoff classic), and
Nuclear Warfare.  Both are executables that will run from a cli or
can be used as a door for Citadel or DLG BBS programs.  I don't know 
about any other BBS programs, but any BBS that will allow you to turn
a CLI based program into a door will work.  They are available on Portal
or my BBS at (609) 953-8159.  My version of Space Empire is greatly
extended over the original.