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Subject: Re: Catharsis
Reply-To: john@drummond.demon.co.uk
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:02:43 +0000

In article <1isf5gINNa9v@spim.mti.sgi.com> dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:

> [...]
> I take out my frustrations with life/job/whatever, on people
> on the net.

I think there is also another tendency: to use the net as a
chance to say what you really think, free from the usual
constraints of immediate social interaction.  This applies
both to topics, and to one's reactions to people.  If
someone in real life rubs you up the wrong way you might
simply ignore or smooth over with small talk.  On the net
you feel able to turn upon them the full force of your
distaste... 

Actually, I find I'm rarely stung to actual wrath on the
net.  It takes direct and abusive confrontation to get me
going in that way.

On the other hand, I think I'm probably less qualified and
more direct in expressing my opinions here than I am face-
to-face.

--John
Newsgroups: soc.motss,ne.motss
From: rik@world.std.com (Rik Ahlberg)
Subject: Re: IN THE LIFE
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:20:10 GMT

mbastian@sw.stratus.com (MaryAlice Bastian) writes:

>Does anyone know when IN THE LIFE airs in the Boston area?  If it does
>at all!

>Thanks!

>Mary


It's shown on Channel 44, WGBX, on the Wednesday around the 25th of 
each month at 9:30 pm. The last one was okay, not a thrill -- from a
production quality standpoint, that is. From a glb content standpoint, it's
great!

Rik

Rik Ahlberg        McKinsey & Company, Inc. voice 617-457-2080
rik@world.std.com  Boston Office              fax 617-457-2099


Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jarvis@psych.toronto.edu (Brian Jarvis)
Subject: Re: Capitalization (dubious MOTSS content)
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:44:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.200752.16826@athena.mit.edu> Charlie Fulton <charlie@isis.mit.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Dec31.040815.8238@syacus.acus.oz.au> Brent Davies,
>brent@syacus.acus.oz.au writes:
>>Think about this. What's the difference between these two sentences:
>>
>>"I'm from the city."
>>
>>"I'm from the City."
>>
>>In the second example, don't you immediately think of one and *only* one
>>place that could possibly be being referred to?
>
>New York City, of course.  New York State is divided into three
>sections: "The City", "Lon Gisland" and "Upstate".

When someone mentions "the City" in my presence, I usually interpret it
to mean exciting Charlton, Ontario (pop. 200, including cows).  Anyone
who uses expressions so vague deserves to be misinterpreted on a biblical
scale.

Brian
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From: IADLRC@ASUACAD.BITNET
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Places to visit in Oklahoma City
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:56:08 GMT
Organization: Arizona State University

Howdy Motsseurs!
I'm planning a trip to the Oklahoma City area January 16th to 31st.
Does anyone out there have any suggestions for places to see/visit?  I
plan to purchase one of those "places for men" books before I leave,
but I'm sure it will probably be incomplete.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated!  By the way, after this post I will no longer be a muffin!

Larry Carlson  B5 t+ w d s- r+
               S4 b g l y+ z n o x a u- j-
From: aberson@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: RE: For a limited time only
Date: 5 Jan 93 23:54:09 GMT
Organization: NIST

In a previous article, jarvis@psych.toronto.edu (Brian Jarvis) wrote:
>- a battery powered pepper mill, $29.95.  "I'm sorry supper's going to be
>  a little bland:  the batteries are dead."

I couldn't see how this could be worth it until I saw that it had a light
at the bottom so that the person pressing the button to grind the pepper
can see the pepper falling toward the plate.  With that little feature, $29.95
is a bargain.

Sim Aberson   Ft. Lauderdale, FL   aberson@ocean.dnet.nasa.gov
"Home is where your roof landed" - t-shirt seen in Miami
"We Will Rebuild (tm)" - majority community response to Andrew
"We Will Redecorate" - gay community response to Andrew
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Subject: Re: Year of the Queer
Originator: glp@merlin
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:10:26 GMT


In article <mattm-060193114242@mcmelmon.apple.com>, mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:

|> And I'm not even blond...
|> 
|> *X*
|> (though I was, at one point a brilliant strawberry-gold)

And now what?  Angry auburn?  Linda Evangelista *acid* red?
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Tori Amos
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 14:06:49 GMT

In article <17876@umd5.umd.edu> jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu
(Jeffrey C.  Burka) writes:

>To bring in a bit more motss reference, Ms. Amos used to perform in
>a number of gay bars in the DC area when she was a teenager.  Her father,
>a minister, would arrange jobs for her with the owners.  It's things like
>this that make me wish I were a bit older...

Just wait; with luck, you will be.  Then, things like that
will make you wish you were a bit younger.

<> Bigelow's has three flavors I particularly like: "Lemon Lift"
<> which, astonishingly enough, is tea with built-in lemon (REAL
<> lemon) flavoring, "Plantation Mint" which is tea with a touch
<> of spearmint, and "Cinnamon Stick," tea with cinnamon.
<> -- George Madison (furr@cup.portal.com)
<> Jesus wept.
<> -- John Fisher (jf@threel.co.uk)
-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass)
Subject: Re: Gay men personals...
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:29:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.032637.16456@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca> aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.031637.5579@athena.mit.edu> sun@athena.mit.edu (Tigua  
>Alan Naghel Jackson) writes:
>
>>  This is all secondary, though, to the reason why I'm
>>  posting in the first place which is for white men to
>>  consider: When placing an ad why say, 'GWM seeks same,
>>  no fats no fems' when what you mean to say is, 'GWM seeks
>>  <whatever> no colored, no fats, no fems...'?
>>  
>>  Of course, my version is 'racist.'  But I'm the only one
>>  saying that...
>
>Why is it "racist" to prefer one race over another in a sexual context?  


It isn't....I would never rule out a person because of his color, but
God I hope he is dark!!!!!

This shit about it being racist is trash.  Just like some folks out
there trying to say it is wrong not to be attracted to fat men. (I am
fat and I am not attracted to fat men.)  It is all preference, personal
preference.......

>This makes no more sense than saying that a taste for men over women is  
>sexist. 


Very good point.

>
>Not wanting to "date" a person based on their race is very different from  
>not liking or associating with them.

>
>I'd say that the set of men that are truly neutral with respect to race is  
>actually fairly small. Love is not, and will never be, colorblind, and I  
>see little point in worrying about the preferences of others.
>
>-Anthony

Bil Snodgrass

(hey, I like men who use soap, guess I am a soapist!)


Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Subject: Re: For a limited time only
Originator: glp@merlin
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:45:34 GMT


In article <C0Dy6w.9KL@agora.rain.com>, bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps) writes:
|> In my mail today was a catalogue for one of those mail order music
|> outfits that advertise along with the Ginzu knives and the Bamboo
|> Steamers on WTBS.  Thumbing through it, nestled among the ads for
|> Slim Whitman (He Had The Number One Record In England For More Weeks 
|> Than Even Elvis And The Beatles!) and Pan Flute Masterpieces is this
|> priceless gem:
|> 
|> 	     * * *  ACCORDION PARTY  * * *

This is funny.  While preparing for his audition
to get into the Mannes college division, Dave has
been worrying about the possibility of his future
being one-half of a flute/accordion duo.

It's a horrifying thought.


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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams)
Subject: Re: Nominations for best Men's cologne
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, California
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:09:06 GMT

> fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!) writes:
>> rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams) writes:

>>Along the same lines, and quite yummy, is Hermes' men's
>>Cologne (the blue bottle, *not* Equipage!).
>
>What's wrong with that!

Oh sorry -- it smells quite rancid on me.  But I have
enjoyed it on others...
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From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Nominations for best men's colognes
Date: 9 Jan 93 03:11:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1993Jan9.031119.10361
Reply-To: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1ikbg1INNg7m@spim.mti.sgi.com> dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:
>Why didn't you just say "sez you" or "so's your mother" instead?

I'm black latex and you're heavyweight motor oil.
Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to yoil.
                __
nelson@reed.edu \/                 All of the freaks are not inside the tents
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: vince@pons.umhc.umn.edu (Vince Netz)
Subject: Re: Blood donations at UCLA
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:03:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.073958.23773@mic.ucla.edu> cjones@physci.ucla.edu  
(Chad Jones) writes:
> I explained to her that I am gay, and that I have been in a monogomous
> relationship with the same person for over 4 years, and that he is my
> first (and only) partner (same for him).  I also pointed out that a
> promiscuous heterosexual could donate, and that I was much safer.  She
> was symapthetic, but I was still disqualified.
> 
> I understand their concern with the blood supply, but that they don't
> consider heterosexual activity (except with prostitutes) in their
> questioning isn't fair.

Yea, from a philosophical point of view, you're right - it is a double  
standard....   but, keep in mind that hospitals are under tremendous  
legal, regulatory, and financial pressure, and sometimes crude screening  
methods are employed.  You'll find the same exact questionnaire at every  
hospital, and yes, if you say *yes* to the gay question, you cannot  
donate blood.  

Also, from a strictly "statistical" standpoint (ignoring the various  
political issues involved) gay males are still in the majority of HIV  
positive people, and they figure that probability-wise they're doing the  
best they can.  'Course if the funding and staff can be found to redo
the form to ask *all* the questions about sexual histories, that would  
be a solution.  UCLA medical center is basically bankrupt, so I'd guess  
that complaining to them about it would get you a sympathetic but blank  
stare.

> BTW, that coworker passed away on Friday.  It's a good thing that it
> wasn't for lack of blood availability.

Actually, that is pretty much out of the realm of possibility.  BMT  
patients aren't given whole blood - only components of it, and most of  
these are readily available (i.e. apheresis platelets, etc).

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich)
Subject: Re: Blood donations at UCLA
Organization: Trivializers R Us
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:48:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.185836.10669@dvorak.amd.com> tdbear@dvorak.amd.com (Thomas D. Barrett) writes:

>Now... putting on the activist hat.  Who the hell is the red cross protecting
>if they totally ignore the rutting hets which you mentioned.  AIDS is the
>leading cause of death for teens in the world... they should know by
>now to make the questionaire generic.  I guess when it was first
>produced a few years ago, some pencil pushing bean counter figured out
>that 98% of the tainted blood would be removed via the questionaire
>and the rest of the 99.999% would be removed by the actual HIV test,,,
>then to hell with the .000999% because most of them probably wouldn't
>live and those that did probably wouldn't be able to trace it back to
>the blood... maybe 1 or 2 out of millions.  Small price to pay for
>them to get their bigoted thoughts down on paper.  

Just to pick nits, this is only one of a number of questions, including
sex for money, sex with someone else who has had sex for money, ditto
sex for drugs, ditto use of injectable drugs, and, if you really want to
put on your insulted activist hat, ditto from sub-saharan africa.

paul

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Soc.motss: The Color Version
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 04:53:51 GMT

anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

>In article <thaaang.726631129@cwis> thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu
>(John Dorrance) writes:

>>Let's meet halfway. Here, I'll get an atlas...
>>Okay. How does somewhere between Ames and Reinbeck, Iowa sound to you?

>How about Grinnell?  I have a sentimental reason for wanting
>to do it there, and we could probably considerably
>scandalize the locals at the small college there.

How could someone possibly have sentimental attachments to Grinnell?

Anyway, I was thinking we could just start walking towards each other
at equal, constant rates, and then strip and boink whenever we meet,
be it in a badroom, a highway, or a gathering of state.

>That
>leaves just the question of when?  Seems to me it would make
>sense to wait until you're not quite so snowbound, as Omaha
>made the national news this evening for its weather.

Really? Wow!

John, who didn't even know it was snowing until a friend woke him up
at around 7 pm to let him know they wouldn't be able to go dancing.
I'm still thinking of either badgering my roommate into a ride or
walking...

--
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      You would be surprised at what resides in your insides.
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From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Arne Adolphson, etc.
Date: Fri,  8 Jan 93 19:35:29 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1993Jan8.065528.2074@leland.Stanford.EDU> <73181@cup.portal.com>
  <1993Jan8.175437.23515@spdcc.com>

Steve Dyer writes:
>Listen, Arne might not be _your_ cup of tea, but you are really losing
>your grip on reality (not to mention your power to persuade anyone) if
>you insist on describing Arne as being "indiscriminately, unrelentingly
>nasty."

Hm. I did overstate myself a bit, there.  My point is that I find
him *consistently* nasty. Perhaps not every posting, but *far* too
many for my taste.

And as I pointed out in my direct response to Arne, he does have
this difficulty with the concept that all gay men don't relate by 
verbally stabbing each other in the back, all the time.

>Indeed, this effort of yours is a source of amusement to most people
>here, who would be more inclined to describe your own contributions to
>motss in such one-dimensional terms, if they weren't too polite to do so.

In short, that's their problem.  In any case, I've been finding
Arne's *ludicrous* characterizations of me to be rather funny --
as, I am sure, anyone who actually knows me has found them.

>Listen, it wasn't so long ago that you were saying the same things about
>Jess, and now the two of you are perfectly civil to each other, so there
>is certainly precedent here.

A precedent perhaps, but a *relevant* one?  No.

>Now, how about trying to be an objective core relative?

You first.

 
() Things should be made as simple as possible, but not
() simpler.
()      -- Albert Einstein
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[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
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From: ken@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Ken Johnson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: taking over
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:13:31 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: William's Wonderful Wonky Widget Warehouse


&  Bah.  Code phrase:  Have you hugged your neighbors nubile teenage
&  sons, yet?

%  Beh. Code phrase: Have you tongued a baby today?

#  Humph. Code phrase: Prevent babies; drain your neighbors sperm.

Help the police. Spank a teenager.






-- 
Son, all the pretty, intelligent,      || Ken Johnson                           healthy young women are taken.         || A I Applications Institute
It's a basic rule of the universe,     || 80 South Bridge                       and if you don't like it,              || Edinburgh,  Scotland   EH1 1HN
go somewhere else.                     || Phone 031-650 2756   Fax 031-650 6513
               -- my dad  1906-1992    || E-mail ken@aiai.ed.ac.uk
From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Year of the Queer
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:28:40 GMT
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh! <stamp> <shake> <stomp>  I get so *mad* when people
start playing dirty!

In article <1993Jan6.192038.22830@gordian.com>, mike@gordian.com (Michael
A. Thomas) wrote:
> 
> In article <mattm-060193093012@mcmelmon.apple.com>, mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:

> > Southern Californians are too self-centered as *individuals* to be
> > self-centered as a geographic location...  
> 
>   Yes, but we do manufacture a goodly amount of bubble butted
> blond boyz. I think it's our chief export these days.

NO FAIR!  NO FAIR!  FOUUUUUUUUUUUUL!

*X*
(next, you might point out the *JASON* *PRIESTLEY* lives in
Los Angeles - but that would *really* be going lower than a 
Squirrel's tail on an interstate...)
From: NFitch@UCSD.edu (Nick Fitch)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Wil Wheaton at MacWorld!!!!!
Followup-To: soc.motss
Date: 13 Jan 1993 00:01:02 GMT
Organization: UC San Diego
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: clinical-mac76-106.ucsd.edu

Re: Arne & warm Jell-o

> 
> Don't worry your pretty little head about it, Michael.  
> Do you imagine *I* would be sorry to miss an evening
> of slopping around with warm Jell-o?  Let Nick dream
> on about this Wil Wheaton person.
> 

Don't knock it if you aint tried it.

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From: tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Costner plans Colorado Filming
Date: 4 Jan 1993 00:27:35 -0500
Organization: P.L.T.S., North Plainfield, NJ, USA
Distribution: soc
NNTP-Posting-Host: plts.uucp

In article <dc6267f@rpi.edu> buckmr@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire) writes:
>tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli) writes:
>
>>New Jersey has just about everything that is listed in the "Demands"
>>for the MOW93 (more-so than any other state).  New Jersey law prohibits
>>discrimination based on sexual-orientation in employment, housing,
>>loans, and public accomodations.  
>
>What about CREDIT and EDUCATION, which are in Vermont's law? 
>[And I hear Vermont has good skiing, too. I dunno, it looks too dangerous
>to me!]

Credit is covered by the "financial institutions" section of the law.

I'm not sure what you mean by "education".  No where is education
mentioned in the NJ "Law Against Discrimination".  However, in the
early 70's a court case (New Jersey vs. Gish?) decided that a teacher
can teach controversial material.  (John Gish taught about the gay
movement, etc.  in addition to the required material).  Les/bi/gay
teachers are covered by "employment".

What in particular are you talking about?

Tom
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Heros falling to the ground / like hell's magnet / pulls me down / on my knees
/ I try to please his eyes / his idol eyes. / Jerking motions won't revive him
/ mouth to mount resusitation / I just lay down beside him / and idolize.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Different Strokes (was Re: Changing standards of female beauty)
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 00:42:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.233916.16988@gordian.com>
mike@gordian.com (Michael A.  Thomas) writes:

>> Butting in?  Flames?  Nah.

>Well, maybe not flames but certainly a toasty little argument going
>though. Sort of like a fireside chat, wouldn't you say?  :-)

Did I call him a shit-faced dumb-fuck jackass?  No, I did
not.  Therefore it was not a flame.  See, it's so simple,
really.  It was more like comparing clay masques to witch
hazel.  He's Hazel, of course!  :-)

-- 
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[Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson]
[Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888]
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: nasiatka@anhep3.anl.gov.bitnet (Jim Wylde)
Subject: re: Non sequitur (was: race based fetishes)
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory 
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:24:32 GMT

In article <1ikpilINNmeh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> an104@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ric Helton) writes:
>
>The users on my BBS, Graffiti (404-972-4999) and on GEnie, the
>national online service (I run the gay rights forums) are asking
>for a comprehensive list of companies and other entities based
>in Colorado, and that they should be boycotting or at least
>contacting about their business practices in the Hate State.
>
>Does anyone have such? If not, is one being compiled?
>
> __
> \/ Ric
>

My roomie runs Risqilly out here in Chicago, and puts out
the International Gay BBS list.  He's currently setting up
to be a BBS base for info on the Colorado boycott and
stuff.  Any info would be much appreciated.

Just as an aside, I believe the Sysops conference is
being held in Denver this year.....  Perhaps a bunch of
sysops might wanna find out who organizes this and have
a little chat with them.

Jim

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