HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: train@gvls2.gvl.unisys.com (Herbert Rutledge)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Vice Shrub Won.
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:02:42 GMT
Organization: Paramax Systems Corporation, Paoli PA

In article <1992Oct14.010619.14014@news.columbia.edu>, 
egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:

|>                            Stockdale's performance won't help Perot at
|> all.  It might harm his ticket: he bumbled fairly badly in the
|> beginning (but he's such a NICE, Santa-like bumbler, unlike Quayle,
|> the Ken-doll bumbler in '88), and Perot seems to have picked him
|> without considering if he were qualified to step into the President's
|> shoes if, say, an eagle picked Ross up and carried him away.  This
|> won't reflect well on Perot's judgement

  I guess it's true:  nobody can sink a ship like an Admiral.
 



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From: cme@ellisun.sw.stratus.com (Carl Ellison)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: New Responsibilities for D.Q.
Keywords: Debates, Council on Competitiveness, Help Wanted (Part Time)
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:07:44 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <1992Oct12.152256.6567@gvl.unisys.com> train@gvls2.gvl.unisys.com (Herbert Rutledge) writes:
>  I put it to YOU, some of the most creative minds on the planet:  what
>  sould Dan Quayle be doing during a second Bush term (assuming there is
>  one)? 


You're forgetting DQ's two top current jobs.  He would continue doing
them, I assume:

1.	speak to ultra-right-wing folks who then know that they have a
	friend in the Executive branch;

2.	make gaffs which get covered by the news, worldwide, and by
	contrast make Bush's gaffs look minor.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: sl930@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: The most important poll, and Quayle wins
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:56:58 MDT
Organization: Utah State University


I have to admit I watched the debate tonite with anxiousness.  I was afraid
Quayle would mess up again.  Well, I would never have guessed he would be
as tough as he was.  I am really impressed with him.  Gore may have been 
more polished, but he could have been easily been replaced with a tape
recorder.  Talk about rehearsed.

Another thing, I have heard one poll say Gore won, another called it even
between the two, but they all say that Bush gained three points immediatley
after, and Clinton either gained one, stayed the same, or lost one, depending
on who you talked to.  I think that says it best, and much more importantly,
who won.

sl930@cc.usu.edu
From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Dan attacked by angry mob!
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:36:31 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Oct13.024426.2016@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, cldavies@nyx.cs.du.edu (cindy davies) writes:
> In article <D2150056.fj7gh9@erics.infoserv.com> erics@infoserv.com writes:
>>
> 
> ;-) ;-) ;-)
> 
> I am not convinced that being nice is really the way to go, but thats the
> way we are.  Its time to raise less corn, and more hell.
> 
> cldavies@silver.sdsmt.edu        cldavies@nyx.cs.du.edu



Hey man, don't knock it. We Canadians have gone a long way on the "being
nice" thing. 

Of course, that dosen't mean I'm not going to vote NO in the Referendum,
just as a means of revenge on our Prime Minister. You people think
BUSH is bad... he's nothing compared to Mulroney.

Later!
Mike
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:25:50 EDT
From: The Ramblin' Man <LDM102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Debate Results, my opinion.
 <1992Oct14.024038.15119@cbnewse.cb.att.com>
 <1992Oct14.043504.5165@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
 <92288.051255LDM102@psuvm.psu.edu> <92288.084226JFL4@psuvm.psu.edu>

In article <92288.084226JFL4@psuvm.psu.edu>, <JFL4@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
>
>Surely you're not this stupid.  If it was the first meeting between
>President Bush and Gorbachev, they couldn't have "known each other
>before..."  They might have known *of* each other, however.
>
   Surely you aren't stupid enough to think that Vice-president Bush had
never met President Gorbachev?!?!?  What do you think a vice president
does, sit home and stay safe, just in case the president dies?!?

>Of course, I guess it just goes to show what a lap dog Vice President
>Bush was if he hadn't met Gorbachev before he was President.

    I guess you missed the original post and the debate.  Vice-president
Quayle clearly stated that Mr. Bush *had* met Gorbachev before he became
president.  It seems the original poster couldn't figure out how Bush
could have "met Gorbachev before" he became President.

>Hope this helps.

    Likewise.
From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Debate Results, my opinion.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 15:09:38 CDT
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS (Public Access Usenet for New Orleans)

egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:

> In article <Ja1msB1w165w@mintir.new-orleans.la.us> elendil@mintir.new-orleans
> ><JFL4@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> >
> >>
> >> Surely you're not this stupid.  If it was the first meeting between
> >> President Bush and Gorbachev, they couldn't have "known each other
> >> before..."  They might have known *of* each other, however.
> >>
> >> Of course, I guess it just goes to show what a lap dog Vice President
> >> Bush was if he hadn't met Gorbachev before he was President.
> >>
> >
> >I seem to remember a token meeting between The Shrub and Gorby in '88 in New
> >York for the General Assembly opening, but I could be wrong.  In any case, I
> >wouldn't characterize such a casual contact as 'knowing' each other...
>
> In the Biblical sense? :-)
>
>

Gods, that does conjure up images that would make anyone shudder... :-)



|Edward J. Branley         elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us|
|Seashell Software, Metairie, LA            +1-504-455-5087|
From: rdetweil@boi.hp.com (Richard Detweiler)
Subject: Re: The Veep Debate
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:27:43 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise Printer Division

In article <1992Oct15.171646.26801@netcom.com> erics@netcom.com (Eric Smith) writes:
>peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri) writes:
>
>  [ Stuff about what Gore should have said on the trust issue at 
>     the debate deleted. ]
>
>>Too bad Al missed the opportunity....
>
>I wished he would have listed a few of the groups who have endorsed
>Clinton, like many law enforcement associations, a group of military
>advisors including Admiral Crowe (once head of the JCS for Bush),
>and a group of Silicon Valley executives, and said "well, apparently
>*they* trust Bill Clinton".
>

I think that this would make a great commercial.  Show a few CEO's and 
a few of the military brass wrapped in the flag and all there medals
dangling and intersperse a lot of average joes ala the Bush commercial 
of the people at the diner saying how he won the debate (where did they 
FIND these people??) all saying four words "I Trust Bill Clinton".
Then end it with a CEO saying he trusts Clinton's economic plan, a 
military guy saying he trusts Bill Clinton's character and an average
joe saying something like "You know, there's only one guy I hear 
talking about solutions.  And that's why I'm voting Bill Clinton."

So, what do think?  Should I quit my day job?

Dick Detweiler : rdetweil@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com
>-----
>Eric Smith	    | "If a frog had wings, he wouldn't hit his tail
>erics@sco.com	    |     on the ground.  'If.'  Too hypothetical."
>erics@infoserv.com  | - George Bush, on extending unemployment benefits
>CI$: 70262,3610	    |
>


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From: JFL4@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: Dan vs. Alaska
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:15:16 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Oct12.234310.7329@u.washington.edu>,
sieferme@stein.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman) says:
>
>It sounded like the Dannster bragged
>about how the recently departed Competitiveness Council
>"saved" over 2000 auto-manufacturing-related jobs
>in Alaska.  Research into the number showed that the
>jobs which Our Boy claimed to have saved never existed!
>

I also heard this - from three different news stories.  No such
jobs exist in Alaska and no one from the Quayle campaign would comment.

Hope this helps.

Jeff Luck              *The opinions are mine, but facts are facts*
CES Systems Office
Penn State University       "Whatever you guys want, I'm for."
JFL4@PSUVM.PSU.EDU             -Dan Quayle to Ohio Farmers, 1988
From: sg@monsoon.com (Sunil Gupta)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Marilyn's Indiscretions (and Teddy's comment)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 11:08:17 EDT
Organization: Monsoon Software, Inc.

popec@unkaphaed.UUCP (William C. Barwell) writes:

> chesnutt@adobe.com (Stan Chesnutt) writes:

[stuff deleted]

> > Not so fast!  It would be great to have Dan somewhere in the public
> > eye, perhaps as a host on late-nite infomercials.  But nowhere near
> > the White House!

[stuff deleted]

> Hey!  He'd make a really fine sidekick for Jay Leno!  Jay could crack 
> wise and Dan could grin winsomely and give us the "stare"!  It would be 
> perfect!

I see him more as the male counterpart to Jessica Hahn on one of those
late-night fantasy phone commercials. }8-)

Sunil Gupta
Monsoon Software, Inc.
sg@monsoon.com
From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re:  History of D.C.
Keywords: Columbia, District O', NFC East
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:23:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Rice University

In article <1992Oct13.165404.14885@gvl.unisys.com>, train@gvls2.gvl.unisys.com (Herbert Rutledge) writes:
>
> Oops!  I forgot the most important event in the history of the D. O' C.:
>
>
>    1912 - Boston Redskins move franchise to Washington.

Try 1937.  The NFL didn't even exist until 1921.  (Hey, you could be the
next candidate to replace Mr. Potatoe Head...:-)


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From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Debate Results, my opinion.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 15:31:24 PDT
Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
Reply-To: erics@infoserv.com
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mea@cbnewse.cb.att.com (mark.e.anderson) writes:

> erics@netcom.com (Eric Smith) writes:

> >I don't know how you can say Quayle won this one. He didn't make any
> >major Q-blunders (darn! I was *so* hoping the quotes file would get
> >some good additions!), but he was very excitable, almost out of control,
> >and he was not able to articulate any points at all except that Clinton
> >can't be trusted. Nothing on why the next four years will be any
> >different than the previous four if he and Bush are elected. Bottom
> >line, Gore was the only one up there who appeared qualified to be
> >President. 

> Sorry, I was keeping score using that debate scoresheet that someone
> posted here awhile ago.  This scoring system had nothing to do
> with what the candidates said rather, how the candidates invoked
> reaction from the crowd and moderator.

> There was one instance of hissing and another instance of the
> moderator asking the crowd to be quiet.  I beleive DQ won points
> in both these instances.

I doubt that anyone cares what the reactions were of the packed bleachers,
on either side.  

-----
Eric Smith
erics@infoserv.com
CI$: 70262,3610


Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: pat@sphinx.phys.Virginia.EDU (pat walsh)
Subject: Re: Marilyn Quayle claims Clinton thinks unlike a southerner
Organization: University of Virginia Physics Department
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:37:36 GMT

Eric Sieferman writes:
  .
  .
  (Clarinet article describing how MQ accuses Clinton of not thinking
   like a southerner)
  .
  .
>Any southerners out there care to explain how Arkansas native
>Bill Clinton does not think like a southerner, whereas
>GHWB (private school, Yale educated, long time Washington DC
>insider) does?

But...but...but...George is a regular guy!  Hey, he eats pork rinds, goes
to stock car races and listens to the Nitty Ditty Kitty Litty... :-)

- Patrick Walsh (not a native southerner, hope you don't mind)
  University of Virginia Department of Physics
  pw@virginia.bitnet, pw@virginia.edu, pat@gomez.phys.virginia.edu
From: saxe@monet.cs.unc.edu (Eddie Saxe)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: more bashing
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:57:28 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

In article <1992Oct8.004214.770@pony.Ingres.COM> garrett@Ingres.COM (THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.054237.15655@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>, huang@mwilliams.eche.ualberta.ca ()                  writes...
>>Can those Quayle bashers find some place else to masturbate?  This
>>place is santified for the genuine fan of The Honourable J. Danforth
>>Quayle.  Please return to the original intent.  Thanks.  
>
>Notice how he said "THE" genuine fan. Who is this one person?
>And how come it took so long for this person to speak up?

He already has.  Don't you remember GRANT CUNNINGHAM?
Maybe the glare from his raw, scintilating intellect temporarily blinded you
long enough for you to miss the posts.
Then again, maybe you, like I, slept through them.

Eddie "What's this post abou...ZZZZZZZZZZZ" Saxe
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Subject: Re: Extra! Dan is a Genius!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:52:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.213701.2713@u.washington.edu> sieferme@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.142821.26389@anasazi.com> best@anasazi.com (Mike Best) writes:
>>In article <cortez.718440319@milton> cortez@milton.u.washington.edu (Tom Warner) writes:
>>>> 
>>>I don't believe you for a second. You know, California, press in tow,
>>>pulls over at a Burger King with a "now hiring" sign and declares
>>>that it's a sign things are "turning around in America."
>>
>>This is your basic problem, your mind is closed (IMO).  I really did 
>>not recall this event.  On the face of it I can see how you could
>>argue that this is an indication that things are getting worse what
>>with buisnesses hiring people as indicated by the sign.
>
>The event was covered in the press.  It is included in the
>Quayle Quote file, which has been posted in a.f.d-q
>oodles of times.  How can reminding you of this be
>evidence of a closed mind?
>>
>>> [Burger King stuff deleted]
>>>
>>>So go on, explain it. Enlighten us as to how to interpret Dan's
>>>statements consistent with your theory that he is able to think.
>>>
>>I would be difficult since I am not aware of this incident.  Furthermore,
>>I am not aware that anyone can make a proof describing someone's 
>>ability to think, not even your's and you are obviously a thinker!
>
>You just claimed that Mr. Warner had a closed mind (with
>no evidence); now you claim that we can't "prove" 
>anyone's ability to think.  What a weasel!
>
>We are still waiting for evidence to counter the LARGE
>body of facts which indicate that Our Boy is an idiot.
>
>>By the way, do you have a problem with Bob Woodward's claim that 
>>Dan Quayle would be an effective President should something happen
>>to Bush?  You remember Bob - Watergate... Nixon...
>
>Obviously, even Bob has his off-days.  If you want to base your
>high opinion of DQ on personal testimonials (instead of facts)
>check out Nixon's opinion of the Dandroid.
>
>BTW, how many of Bob Woodward's other opinions do
>you agree with?
>
>>Mike Best
>
>
>-- 
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>
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From: JFL4@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: Constitutional Questions, and liberalisms....
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:27:06 GMT
 <1992Oct8.050742.12207@news.unomaha.edu> <Bvv752.Ltw@creare.com>
 <ATAYLOR.92Oct12165713@gauss.nmsu.edu>
Organization: Penn State University

In article <ATAYLOR.92Oct12165713@gauss.nmsu.edu>, ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) says:
>
>        "Liberals" generally (but not always)
>        favor...a "rule" which
>        makes no sense and favors only the politically connected
>        and criminals....
>

Since when have liberals favored rules that favor the Reagan/Bush
administration - or even members of the Reagan/Bush administration?

Hope this helps.

Jeff Luck                *The opinions are mine, but facts are facts*
CES Systems Office
Penn State University        "Whatever you guys want, I'm for."
JFL4@PSUVM.PSU.EDU              -Dan Quayle to Ohio Farmers, 1988
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Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 10:03:44 EST
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Excuse the Quayless intrusion.  John White was primary author
of HRP's "economic plan."  Do y'all think his endorsement of
Clinton helps or hurts?


Dhanesh


------------------------------------------------------------------------

 October 5, 1992


 Statement by John P. White,
 former Issues Director, Perot Petition Committee

 Today, I am announcing my support for Governor Bill Clinton for
 President of the United States.

 Over the past few months, I have been deeply involved in the
 Presidential campaign.  As a result, I have had a special opportunity
 to observe the candidates in the context of personal capabilities,
 positions on issues, and leadership characteristics.

 I believe that a Clinton presidency will achieve for the country the
 essential combination of economic growth, good jobs, and long- term
 fiscal strength.

 I believe Clinton has an excellent economic plan and will provide the
 long-term deficit reduction that will be necessary to return America
 to a sound footing.


------------------------------------------------------------------------

 John White can be reached for comments at:

 (617)-495-9479   or   (617)- 864-1200.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: cme@ellisun.sw.stratus.com (Carl Ellison)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: more bashing
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:51:46 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <1992Oct7.054237.15655@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> huang@mwilliams.eche.ualberta.ca writes:

>This place is santified for the genuine fan of The Honourable J. Danforth
>Quayle.

Too late.

He was found dead last week -- tragic, actually -- choked on a potato.
From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Vice Shrub Won.
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:56:00 GMT
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS (Public Access Usenet for New Orleans)

peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri) writes:

> elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:
>
> >BTW, I wouldn't sweat the election.  Even His Rushness conceded today.
>
>
> OOoh!  Tell me more!                                  --  Michal

Well, there's not much to it.  Uncle Rush admitted there is little hope, and
that we were in for four years of unchecked liberalism.



|Edward J. Branley         elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us|
|Seashell Software, Metairie, LA            +1-504-455-5087|
From: madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Bush debating
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:23:50 GMT
Organization: Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things

Well, kiddies, what did you all think of King George's performance?
Some observations from left-wing Northern California:

I watched this debate with about 40 other folks, of varying careers,
political opinions, and backgrounds.  During several of Bush's sound
bites, folks here actually laughed.  Repeatedly.

Heavy applause and Yeahs! and Right Ons! for Perot.  Major cheering
when Clinton trashed Clarence Thomas.

Best visual: when Bush started shrieking about heavy cocaine addiction
and scratched his nose.  He sure seemed extra whiny and shrill as the
afternoon wore on.

Best In-Your-Faceisms:
   Clinton telling Bush that Bush's father, Senator Prescott Bush, was
     right to stand up to Joe McCarthy's impugning good peoples' patriotism,
     and that Bush was wrong to impugn Clinton's patriotism.
   Perot, responding to Bush's claim that he had more experience than the
     other two candidates, agreeing that he [Perot] had no experience in
     raising a four trillion dollar debt.

Did you notice it was Clinton who was asked the only "Family Values"
question?  Great endnote, informing everyone that Sunday was his 17th
wedding anniversary.  Pity no one nailed Bush for that nasty convention
in Houston or on the abortion issue.

Questions I would have asked if I had been on the panel:

President Bush, would you please explain to us why you believe J.
Danforth Quayle is qualified to be President of the United States
should something happen to you?  Would you explain this in light
of the fact that Jim Baker thinks he's a total dweeb?

Governor Clinton, why don't you just name Ross Perot as a domestic
czar so we can dispose of Bush/Quayle faster?

Mr. Perot, do you have any more good one-liners about why President
Bush ought to be calling Atlas Van Lines to pack up his furniture?


Next debate is single-moderator.  If it's anything like the Dianne
Feinstein/John Seymore debate I heard last night, it should be great;
those two were really ripping into each other.  I didn't expect that,
because both are centrists with very few policy differences.

Final note, the San Jose Mercury News endorsed Clinton/Gore 2 weeks
ago.  This wasn't picked up by the national media when the other 2
papers who endorsed them were mentioned.

Looking forward to tomorrow's VP debate!

-- 
Maddi Hausmann                madhaus@netcom.com
Humorist, Satirist, Tech Writer.  Take your pick.

Centigram Communications Corp, San Jose California  408/428-3553
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle