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From: sunthej@alleg.edu (Jake)
Newsgroups: comp.text,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: tex on the NeXT (Summery)
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:36:14 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College


	Hi!

A couple of days I asked a question concerning reading a file with the  
tex extention on a NeXT.  As one of the resident computer geeks at my  
college, I've been asked this question often enough that I think it  
deserves a summary.  Thank you very much to all that sent me explanations.   
To summerize, the message of most utility:

   Essentially, its just by typing `latex filename` or `tex filename` from
   a shell command-line (in either Terminal, Stuart or what-ever terminal
   emulator you use).

   The basics are explained in the file /usr/tex/ntman.dvi.As you probably
   guessed you can view this file with TeXview, by double-cliking 
   ntman.dvi in a Workspace browser, starting TeXview and using its Open
   menu item, or typing `open /usr/tex/ntman.dvi` from a shell
   command-line.

   Once you've gotten a little way thru that document, you should be able
   to do some basics.  There is another file, this time a .tex source
   file.  It is /usr/lib/tex/inputs/local.tex.

   After getting thru those, you will benefit greatly from purchasing
   two books:

LaTeX: 
A Document Preparation System, Leslie Lamport.  Addison-Wesley, c1986.
    and
    
The TeXbook, Donald Knuth.  Addison-Wesley, c1986.

			Paul Biron     
			University of California, Los Angeles
			Graduate School of Library and Information Science

                      =========================

Another one that I liked, just because it's the way that I think:

    Create the dvi file first then double click on the dvi file.
    To create the dvi file, run tex on the tex file.
    To run tex on the tex file, type 'tex filename' or 'latex filename'   
in a shell window. 							 
		                                 --Walter

			========================

There, Chronicled for future generations.
	
							Jake
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From: tcamp@acpub.duke.edu (Ted A. Campbell)
Newsgroups: comp.text,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Style guides
Keywords: Chicago,style
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:35:14 GMT
Followup-To: comp.text
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Apr02.082402.14552@barclays.co.uk> Colin.Walls@barclays.co.uk writes:
>We are currently in the threws of having a set of document standards
>produced for us. The set that I have seen so far are fine for
>secretary produced word processed documents. However they are totally
>useless for anything produced using a typesetting system. Does anyone
>have anything that would be useful for the latter. I have heard of a
>publication called the ``Chicago manual of style'', would this help at
>all. Could someone let me have an ISBN for it.
>

<title>The Chicago Guide to Preparing Electronic Manuscripts</title>
Chicago: U. of Chicago Press, 1987.  
ISBN: 0-226-10392-7
ISBN: 0-226-10393-5 (paperback)

The format described here should be campatible with SGML, although
I have not seen a DTD for it.  

Ted A. Campbell
Duke Divinity School
tcamp@hercules.acpub.duke.edu
From: irving@eskimo.celestial.com (Larry Gilbert)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: Whither Unicode?
Keywords: Unicode international character encoding standard
Date: 10 Apr 92 06:26:26 GMT
Organization: Eskimo North, Seattle, WA

The other day, I purchased a book entitled _The Unicode Standard: Worldwide
Character Encoding_ (Version 1.0, Volume 1) by The Unicode Consortium,
published by Addison-Wesley (ISBN 0-201-56788-1).  I was happy to find it,
mostly because it does a thorough job of following through with an idea similar
to one I've had for a while.

For those unfamiliar with Unicode, it is a standard (not yet officially
recognized) which attempts to unify most major world character encoding 
standards into one standard which uses 16-bit character codes.

My questions:  Where is Unicode now?  Is it being used, or indeed is there
support for it?  This book, which was printed around September 1991, seems
to indicate that Unicode would be incorporated into the framework of a larger
32-bit international character set ("ISO DIS 10646"); does anyone know the
status of this ISO standard?

(Meta-question:  Is this an appropriate newsgroup for discussing this?)

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From: sakkinen@jyu.fi (Markku Sakkinen)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: Different paper sizes in Groff
Date: 15 Apr 92 05:58:08 GMT
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland

I have tried to make alternate versions of PostScript documents 
(using Groff) that would be suitable for printing on USA "letter" paper
instead of the ISO A4 that we use here.  I have even printed a test page
on a Letter size sheet on two different PostScript printers here,
and it came out as expected.

However, everybody in USA who has tried to print the things has complained
that approximately two lines from the top of each page are missing,
so vertical alignment goes wrong.  Can anybody suggest a remedy?
My own alternative hunches are:
1. Perhaps I should create another "device" for the postprocessing,
   otherwise copying evertything from ordinary "ps", but defining
   a different paper size in DESC.
2. Some kind of set-up prologue should be added to PostScript files
   (or run separately before them) for them to work correctly on
   American-configured printers.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
Markku

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       SAKKINEN@FINJYU.bitnet (alternative network address)
Department of Computer Science and Information Systems
University of Jyvaskyla (a's with umlauts)
PL 35
SF-40351 Jyvaskyla (umlauts again)
Finland
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From: David.Mao@LAMBADA.OIT.UNC.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: Need PostScript drive for WordPerfect 5.1
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:13:38 GMT

Could someone send me the postscript drive for WP5.1? I just
accidentally deleted my one.

David.Mao@bbs.oit.unc.edu
From: erik@naggum.no (Erik Naggum)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: Re: What is [SGML]?
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:12:16 GMT
Reply-To: Erik Naggum <enag@ifi.uio.no>
Followup-To: comp.text.sgml
Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway
Originator: enag@gyda.ifi.uio.no

I assume you mean SGML, not "SMGL".

SGML is the Standard Generalized Markup Language.

SGML is defined in International Standard ISO 8879:1986.

SGML is a language for formally describing the structure and contents
of documents [1].

SGML is also the syntax used by documents so described.

SGML is an important move in the direction of separating information
from its presentation, i.e. making different presentations possible
for the same information.

SGML is more fully discussed in comp.text.sgml (to where followups are
directed).

SGML is the name of a directory at the public FTP site ftp.ifi.uio.no
where you can find a (draft) FAQ, a bibliography, and more information.

Regards,
</Erik>


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[1] "Document" means any information in any form, processed and
shipped as a unit, paper documents just being one example.  The word
has taken on an expanded meaning with the advent of "document
processing".

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Organization: European Space Research Institute (ESRIN)
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 13:42:58 SET
From: <RSTEVENS@ESRIN.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.text,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Style guides
 <1992Apr4.105844.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au>

Hi, we are trying to build up a standard set of minimum documents in
SGML, and to construct these from a minimum number of SGML "components"
Has anyone got any experience in doing this sort of thing...?
Newsgroups: comp.text
From: hybl@umbc4.umbc.edu (Dr. Albert Hybl (UMAB-BIOPHYS))
Subject: Need escape code for software switching of Postscript cartridges
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:45:18 GMT

I recently acquired a HP C2089A Postscript Cartridge which I am
using with a HPLasterJet III printer.  I also use a PacificPage
Postscript Cartridge with HPLazerJet IIID printer.  I have been
told that the PacificPage cartridge can be software switched between
the PCL/HP-GL2 and Postscript by using ESCape sequences.  Likewise
the "User's guide" that came with my C2089A cartridge informed me
that software switching is possible, but it didn't give any
information about the control codes (escape sequences) that are
needed to do the job.

Can someone please post germane details or perhaps send me a model
interface routine for a unix environment containing an example
of how the software switching is done.

Thanks in advance,
Albert Hybl (hybl@umbc3.umbc.edu)
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: Man pages in a windowed environment
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:30:59 GMT
Reply-To: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.

I am using SunOS 4.1.1 and Sun's man command.  I would like it to NOT
do pagination when I am displaying the pages online - I really dont
need to see those footers and page 2-n numbers when reading the doc
in soft copy.

Are there any tricks that I can use to get man to leave out the footers
and headers?
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From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: Re: groff problem
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:25:41 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <1992Apr6.210956.25243@spdcc.com> rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:
<
<	I'm using groff V1.05 (which just got installed) and have
<run into the following problem:
<
<	Seems like the ms macros (or mgs macros I guesS) aren't
<too keen about picking up the white space at the top of each page, 
<i.e. text starts without the benefit of page header white space.
<
<	Anyone run into this?  Anyone have a fix for this"?
<
<	I tried the me macros which didn't seem to do much better.
<Wasn't able to change the point size with the .sz command.
<
<	The PostScript inclusion works great though....
<
<BBC

I have 1.04 up at work, but 1.05 shouldn't make a difference.  The following
troff code, when run with -mgs works as expected:


.EH 'GROFF MGS TEST'''
.OH '''GROFF MGS TEST'
.EF 'Page %'''
.OF '''Page %'
This is a test to see that the top margin is correct.
.bp
Checking both page headers and footers.


Keep in mind that the first page doesn't have a header.  In any event, the
text was in the correct place on both pages.

For the -me test, the CAP header and footer calls are changed to lower-case.
It too works as expected.
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From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: groff problem
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:09:56 GMT
Organization: insert anything here


	I'm using groff V1.05 (which just got installed) and have
run into the following problem:

	Seems like the ms macros (or mgs macros I guesS) aren't
too keen about picking up the white space at the top of each page, 
i.e. text starts without the benefit of page header white space.

	Anyone run into this?  Anyone have a fix for this"?

	I tried the me macros which didn't seem to do much better.
Wasn't able to change the point size with the .sz command.

	The PostScript inclusion works great though....

BBC
Newsgroups: comp.text,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 09:07:21 EDT
From: <JSN3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Anyone use Interleaf on an IBM RT/PC?

I am a self trained user on a platform that is no longer supported with no
Unix background.  Most times I can figure out the solutions that I need but
there are a couple of procedures which I can't seem to manage.  One is how
to tranfer a text file to a format that could be read by Word Perfect or
Pagemaker.  I assume that I could save the text to an ascii file on disk and
then transfer it to the other PC.  I haven't tried this yet but I assume that
I should format the disks on DOS first.  Does this seem like a reasonable
assumption?  Is there an easier solution?

The other question is about desktops.  I would like to combine two desktops
into one.  There are also documents in a drawer that I would like to copy to
another desktop.

The version of Interleaf is the most current one available for the RT and I
think we purchased it in 1989.  I guess it is probably the equivalent of 4.0.
Solutions for the Sun don't seem to work on the RT but I'm willing to give it
a try if you've got a suggestion.  Thanks!
From: blw@majipoor.Corp.Sun.COM (Brian Wong - SMCC Technical Marketing)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Color in Ileaf-5.2x
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:59:36 GMT
Reply-To: blw@majipoor.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: majipoor.corp.sun.com

I'm running ileaf5.2 and I'm interested in importing a *color* image into documents.
With a bit of manual fobbing, I can convert various format images into sunraster
files, which I can then import into a document as a GREYSCALE image, but I'd like
to preserve the color-ness of the images.  I'm fairly certain that the ones I`ve
attempted have NOT overflowed the colormap; even three or four colors seem to get
converted to greyscale.

Also, is there any way to generate a moderate-sized color map for the
diagraming editor without having to do it by hand?  (I know I can make it once
by hand then copy it)

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blw@chessie.corp.sun.com		Sun Microsystems Computer Corp.
415-336-0082				Palo Alto, CA 94303
From: howie@loomis.dab.ge.com (J. Bruce Howie)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Ileaf 5 ledger paper size printer problem
Date: 6 Apr 92 03:59:12 GMT
Reply-To: howie@loomis.sunny.dab.ge.com
Distribution: na
Organization: General Electric - SCSD

I have a problem with printing ledger sized (11x17) pages in the landscape orientation.

All other combinations of paper size and orientation seem to work. But for the 
above combination (ledger,land), the text is printed 11 inches from the 
bottom of the page and it is not rotated. However, when I change the page
size manually to 11.05 inches in height, the page is printer correctly. The
text is displayed correctly in the software but is not printer correctly.

Has any one else had this problem ? If you have, how did you solve it ? Is this
a patch from interleaf or have I messed up my printer setup ?

Thank you for your help in advance.

J. Bruce Howie
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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: theodore@dseg.ti.com (T.J. Theodore)
Subject: Re: 2 Simple Questions
Reply-To: theodore@dseg.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:07:07 GMT

In article 23063@socrates.umd.edu, steves@socrates.umd.edu (Steven Sonnenberg) writes:
>How do I turn off the printing of the header page (using Postscript)?

Turn off the header page for each document to be printed by the Print pull down menu at 
the top of the document window.  Select Print->Props and select No for header page.

>
>Is there a way of deleting a component from a catalog (such as 'para')?

If the component is no longer being used in the catalog, go to the menu at the top of 
the window with the catalog name in it.  Pull down and over to Misc->Purge->Cmpn->para 
or all and it will purge para or all unused components respectively from the catalog.

>
>Thanks
>
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>| Steve Sonnenberg                                                       |
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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: theodore@dseg.ti.com (T.J. Theodore)
Subject: TeX I/O filters for Interleaf
Reply-To: theodore@dseg.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:32:39 GMT

I am looking for Interleaf filters which import and export TeX files into Interleaf 5.2.
I'm running on a SPARC, SunOS 4.1.1.
Thanks in advance.  Any help is appreciated.

  
Regards,

     T.J.
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From: tbrandt@palm_tree.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Terry Brandt - District Administrator)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: Importing Postcript files
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:45:45 GMT
Followup-To: Importing Postscript files
Organization: "Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, CA."
NNTP-Posting-Host: palm_tree.central.sun.com

I had a few replies to this posting but using filters which do not allow me to
edit the text and make changes. Does anyone know a way I can pull a Postscript 
file into interleaf and make changes to the text????? Or a way I can make the
changes to the Postscript file from SunWin, prior to pulling it into Interleaf??

I am using Interleaf 5.0

Thanks again.

Terry Brandt
terry.brandt@Central.Sun.Com

In article <ku0ud3INNgs4@cronkite>, tbrandt@palm_tree.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Terry Brandt - District Administrator) writes:
|> We have some postcript files that we pulled in from Sunwin. Is there a way of
|> converting these files or importing them into an Interleaf document?
|> 
|> 
|> Thanks,
|> 
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From: bnc@portia.si.macsch.com (Brian Casey)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: 2 Simple Questions
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:14:11 GMT
Organization: The MacNeal-Schwendler Corporation

In article <1992Apr10.013024.23063@socrates.umd.edu> steves@socrates.umd.edu (Steven Sonnenberg) writes:
>How do I turn off the printing of the header page (using Postscript)?
>
>Is there a way of deleting a component from a catalog (such as 'para')?
>
>Thanks

1. Header pages are selectable from the Print->Props menus.

2. If you remove all occurances of a component, then do a Purge from the 
   document name menu, the component is physically removed from the
   catalog.
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: marrs@informatics.wustl.edu (Keith Marrs)
Subject: Frame Clipping
Summary: Graphic objects are not clipped at frame boundaries
Keywords: frame, clipping, graphics
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, Missouri USA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:19:36 GMT

Has anyone had problems with the contents of a frame not 
being clipped to the frame boundaries? Is there some
property that must be set to force clipping?

In our case, when we move a graphic object in a frame such
that part of the object is outside the frame boundary, the
object is not clipped when it is printed. However, if we
ever use the shift or magnify functions in this frame,
clipping will work all the time. 

Thanks for your help,

Keith Marrs
Washington University School of Medicine
marrs@informatics.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: davism@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ("Mike Davis, Chief Operator -- KCGL (2-2810)")
Subject: Re: IWS 4.3 command line switches
Reply-To: davism@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:17:04 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.152821.22565@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> I wrote:
>
>	We are currently running IWSTPS 4.3(.4?) under VAX VMS 5.5.  I have
>looked through the documentation, but I cannot find any information on the
>command line switches available.  Does anyone have a list of them?
>

	More specifically, we would like to be able to position the desktop
window.  We are already aware of the -ww and -wh switches, to set the window
width and window height, respectively.  Basically, we need to know if there
are switches to control the x- and y-offsets.  We already tried the obvious
-wx and -wy, as well as trying a standard X -geometry switch, but to no avail.

							Thanks,
							 Mike
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From: cass@arrakis.uucp (Cass Everitt)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Refresh problem for MIT X-Server
Keywords: refresh
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:40:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: ra.1992Apr7.234040.24869
Distribution: usa
Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept. Mississippi State University


When using Interleaf 5.2 and MIT's X11R5 server (for both sun3 and
sun4 architecture) I get update problems with menus. Basically, 
the screen doesn't refresh when after the menu disappears, and there's
just a white patch on the screen left behind. 
This problem does not occur when using xnews, but with several 3/50's
and SLC's, it's more practical to run a 400k-800k server than the
2.5 Meg of xnews.
Has anyone else encountered/solved this problem?


					Cass Everitt


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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: jan@pandonia.canberra.edu.au (Jan Newmarch)
Subject: Interleaf under X11 R5
Summary: won't startup under X11R5
Keywords: hangs gwm X11R5
Organization: Info Sci & Eng, University of Canberra, AUSTRALIA
Date:  9 Apr 92 05:52:12 GMT

We are running Interleaf 5 successfully on Sun Sparc O/S 4.1.1 using
X11R4.  However, when we try to run it under X11R5 it hangs on reading
the user profile. Any suggestions?

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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf