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From: ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon)
Subject: Re: Interesting nutrition research
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:39:55 GMT

Our cat doesn't like to eat brocholi--she likes to play with it!

One night after dinner, we forgot to clear our dishes, and my husband
left a big brocholi spear on his plate.  We turned in for the night,
but when I got up later to get a drink of water, I could see that the
cat was playing with something green.  Without my glasses, I had
no idea what the %$#@ it was, so I zoomed in for a clser look.  It
was half the brocholi, the other half nowhere to be found.  It was too
big for her to eat, so i suspect we will find the rest of it
when we move out of this apartment

Our cat is insane!

--Karen
From: cyndie@sequent.com (Cyndie Sutherland)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cats on TV
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:45:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Nov16.154555.16773
Distribution: na
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Nov15.010637.26866@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> vboynton@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Virginia R Boynton) writes:
>Has anybody else noticed that some TV shows are finally beginning to
>acknowledge the central role of cats in the American family?  Not only do we
>have Data's Spot on "Star Trek," but also Otto on "Bob."  Can anyone think of
>others?  Do you suppose that this means the world is finally starting to
>appreciate cats for the wonderful family members that they are?
>
>Ginny

I heard a statistic recently that consumers respond more favorable to
TV comercials that feature cats.  I think one computer manufacturer
(maybe IBM, I dont remember) advertized there PC with a cat resting on
top the monitor.  I know I enjoy those commercials more.

cyndie
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lhuffman@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: Welcome to the First Cat (Socks)
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: usa,na
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:33:05 GMT

> 
> Well in addition to that I think that Chelsea is alot cuter (in a kid
> sort of way mind you) than Neil Bush (yuck!).  =-)  Whatever else you
> might say about the Clintons they are a heck of alot better looking
> and better acting family than the Bush's.  At least the Clintons have
> a familial personality...
> 
> Anthony
> 
> 


    WOW!   
                     Here we go...
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ellie@santafe.santafe.edu (Ellie Perelson)
Subject: Help! Clawed furniture
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 01:43:03 GMT
Organization: Santa Fe Institute
Distribution: rec


My cat, J.B., and I have recently moved in with some new roommates.  J.B.
is carying on a 12 year habit of clawing furniure.  Unfortunately, this
time it is not my furniture.  In addition to that she is inspiring the
other cat to do the same.  Is there any way to prevent or deter this
behavior, short of declawing (I cannot do that).

Please e-mail me.  I do not get the chance to read this newsgroup often.

Thanks, 

Ellie Perelson
ellie@sfi.santafe.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Subject: Re: Cats on TV
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:48:28 GMT

In article <1561@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM> lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow) writes:
>>
>I get a lot of mail order catalogs of various types.  It seems like
>every one of them has a cat somewhere in it, sitting on a bed or whatever.


The catalogs sent out by "Wireless" (Minnesota Public Radio) *always*
have a cat somewhere on the cover ... never a dog.  Of course,
Garrison Keillor is a well-known "Cat Comedian," so one shouldn't be
too surprised by this ... :-)




--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
From: palvarez@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Pablo Alvarez-Royo)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: strange hairless circles on my cats
Summary: What is going on?
Keywords: hair loss, circle, shoulder
Date: 18 Nov 92 03:26:12 GMT
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats
Organization: University of California, San Diego

All three of our cats now have strange hairless spots on their shoulders
/neck area (1 spot per cat). We have no idea what the reason for this
may be. We first spotted this on Taz many months ago, then saw one on
Teetee, and have recently found a similar mark on Benzo. 
 They are about the size of a
nickel, and completely hairless. We also know from following Taz that
the hair does not seem to grow back. 
	Does anybody know why this might be? We are starting to      
get worried and would appreciate any comments.
	Thank you

Pablo and Twyla (and Benzo and Taz and Teetee)

Please respond to the net or email to palvarez@ucsd.edu



-- 
Pablo Alvarez-Royo (palvarez@ucsd.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lhuffman@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: Cat Fight Over Socks, Clintons' Pet
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:55:20 GMT

> A source close to Clinton said grimly that there may be retribution for 
> tampering with the cat.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> So, cat lovers, what would be an adequate retribution for those pest
> photographers???  >:)
> 

Well, what easily comes to mind, since they are SOOOOO interested in things 
feline... what could be more quintessential cat than some poopie-doopers? 
straight from the box, strategically placed (ala Roller Poopies), 
magnificently odiferous.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lhuffman@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: The cats next door
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:53:40 GMT

> I don't really think there is much I can do, but this is such a strange
> situation I thought I'd share it with you all.  Sorry for such a long
> semi-rambling post!
> 

These people have ABANDONED their pets and the cats have no other choice but to
seek food and shelter elsewhere. Like all abandoned animals they need to be
taken to a shelter. There they will at least have a chance at a better life.

You will not be taking them away from their owners.  The owners need to be 
forced to make a decision and you are helping with that. They must 
decide to take care of the cats if they retrieve them from 
the shelter, or they must let someone else take them, which they will do by not
retreiving them. In any event, the cats at least will have had some humane 
help rather than have them just drift out of the owners sight to die.

Take the cats to the shelter and tell them where the cats came from. If the 
owners care they will come for them, but I wouldn't bet on it. And you can 
request that you remain anonymous.

Help these babies, please. They have known only a safe place to sleep and 
food that comes out of cans. They are ill-equipped to fend for themselves, and 
only know how to go to humans for their needs.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: COMPUTER DUDETTE <magarret@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Did anyone???
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:23:50 GMT

**************************************************
Email address:  magarret@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Quote:  Happiness is owning a cat!
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

Did anyone get my post about how to get cats from under beds?
Do people generally pile things under there to keep them from hiding out, or do
they keep it clear so they CAN?
It seems to me it would be mean to NOT let them get under there, but I just 
know when I go home that Chelsea will be under there and I can't spend a lot of
time to get her, cause I have to take her to the vets right as soon as I get 
home!
The only two things that have come to mind, and both sound mean, is to either 
scoot the bed over (which would scare her), or take something long like a broom
handle and try to prod her out (I know *I* wouldn't like that).
I suppose this sounds like a dumb, trivial question, but to me I need to know
how to get her.  I am used to dogs - a dog generally can't get under a bed and
hide from you, you can generally get them when you have to!
Thanks
Marti
From: larryw@sun.lclark.edu (Larry Westdahl)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Cat out of control!
Date: 20 Nov 92 03:07:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Nov20.030759.14560
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

There is a lovely cat living in my apartment, but she does two things that
drive me up the wall.  First, she does not eat out of her bowl.  She ficks 
the pieces of dry food on to the floor and then eats some of it, leaving the
rest all over the place.  Second, when I come home from work, I can't walk
across the room without the cat running in front of my feet.  I nearly
trip over every time, and I'm afraid I'm going to step on her one of 
these days.  Now, I know that cats only do what they want to do, and that
I'd have better luck trying to squeeze water from a rock than I would 
trying to train her to do anything.  So, what do I do????

- Lawrence


-- 

_____
larryw@lclark.edu | *L.Westdahl is a caring nurturer, a member of several
writer, musician  | twelve step programs, but not a licensed therapist.
From: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Did anyone???
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:29:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: oasys.27597
Reply-To: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


One thing that always seems to work is to shake their treat box, open the
cupboard and touch their food bowls. This is an all time winner, the can
opener.  But you must remember that if the cat doesn't want to come, it
isn't going to come.  This is years of experience speaking, if they know
(and they always do) that you have plans to take them to "visit" the vet
they can't be found.  Good Luck!

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From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Subject: Re: Humane Society Blues
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:40:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.140800.26405@acd4.acd.com> jrc@IEDV4.acd.com ( Janis Clark ) writes:
>In article <1992Nov13.194624.8333@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner) writes:
>>
>>I agree with you 100%. These people were way out of line. Their job is to 
>>find *good* homes for these cats, not an animal rights radical's idea of the
>>*utopian* home.
>
>This does seem rather extreme.  When I adopted two kittens from the local 
>Humane Society last summer, I was made to wait a day until my veterinarian
>could be contacted.  

The point of the original story was that this sort of thing wasn't done. The 
poster was grilled on arrival, and as soon as she mentioned that her first cat 
was declawed, she not only got preached at but was prevented from so much as 
looking at (let alone adopting) any cat at the shelter that wasn't already 
declawed.

*That's* the extreme.

How would you feel if you had a declawed cat at home and the people at the
humane society where you found your kittens wouldn't let you take them because
of it? Or wouldn't even let you look at the kittens in the first place?
-- 
Ruth Milner                          NRAO/VLA                  Socorro NM
Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
From: moose@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Kristine Anne De Leon Jugo)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: LitterPurrfect
Date: 19 Nov 1992 10:24:23 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu
From: das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Feline Hierarchies
Date: 16 Nov 92 07:21:20 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Yet Another Graphics Project, Bellevue, WA

Oreo (10 year old 13 lb neutered male) is top cat everywhere in the
house except at the supper dish.  I've never figured out why, given that 
he will bully and chase KC (5 year old 10 lb spayed female) anytime else,
at meal time he will let KC nose him away from his food (this is after she's
eaten all of hers) and wait patiently until she walks away.  He will then
come up to me and mew piteously, telling me how hungry he is.  Go figure.  :-)

------
Debbie Schwartz // das@voodoo.ca.boeing.com  // ....uw-beaver!bcsaic!voodoo!das
From: rkn3u@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (R. Keith Norwood)
Subject: Re: Neutering question
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:19:36 GMT


In article <1992Nov16.232426.8955@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> barlow@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Rebel) writes:
>
>I think (you'll correct me if I am wrong I am sure) but there is a BIG
>difference between the amount of money to "fix" a cat and the amount of money
>necessary to repair a broken hip. Also your income should be part of your

When I wrote fix, I meant any form of surgury to repair your cat, not
just necessarily neutering.

>                                  Also your income should be part of your
>decision on whether to get a pet and if so what kind of pet. Cats and dogs
>often require a substantial monetary committment. You also imply that I
>have tons of money to throw around, in fact I support two people and my
>cat on a gross income of $17,000 a year...needless to say I am not extremely
>well off. I am saying that if you want to take on the committment of
>a pet you better be able to handle the expenses that might possibly come
>your way otherwise you are not being fair to your pet. Did you ever

Yes you should consider the costs of caring for your pet when you are
deciding what to get.  But you can't possibly forsee every event.  It seems
that you would you deny a family the joy of caring for a cat because they 
can't afford for the cat to run up $500-$1000 in vet expenses.  Even though, 
they can budget the food, litter, shots, etc.  and the likehood of the 
accident actually occuring is low. If, in your words, you must "be able
to handle the expenses that MIGHT POSSIBLY COME", then very few people
would have pets.  

Also, you question what is fair to your pet.  Well, if I hadn't adopted
my two cats they would be dead now.  So was I fair?

>consider taking Ziggy to another vet to see if someone might reduce their
>costs for the surgery....? Personally I would charge it to VISA and
>work on paying it off rather than bring home a cat with a broken hip and

I did take Ziggy to another vet and they said take him home and see how he
gets along.  I told him flat out that what I could afford.  I also inquired 
to this newsgroup about possible options. That is your decision to put it 
on VISA.  However, don't assume that everyone will make the same decision. 

>work on paying it off rather than bring home a cat with a broken hip and
>allow him to suffer not only the pain of the injury but to later suffer
>the disability of an incorrectly healed bone.  Even having the cat put
>down (as you so callously suggested) is better, if no other alternatives
>an be found. 

What is callous about "put down".  I happen to like it better than kill
or exterminate.  You would rather I put Ziggy down instead of waiting to
see if he would get better.  Mighty humane of you.  Look, Ziggy
is doing quite well with his broken hip.  Given that I wasn't going to
go into debt(as you would like), I think that it turned out good.  



Peace,
Keith


Peace,
Keith
From: moose@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Kristine Anne De Leon Jugo)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Help! neurotic cat
Date: 20 Nov 92 08:19:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


  My cat Spanky is the most hard-headed neurotic cat that I've
  ever seen!  He likes to play really rough and is constantly
  clawing me and biting me.....i've tried a firm NO!...water
  bottle spray...whimpering...keeping still...and nothing works!
  And his nails are REAL sharp!!  I've got scratches and bite
  marks that are rather deep...ouch!  :(
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: mpmarie@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (MARIE HUCOVSKY)
Subject: introducing a new cat
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 23 Nov 1992 14:56 EST  

Someone posted a message that they were having trouble with a new cat and 
her old one.  When I first brought Spike home Harry went nuts!  She felt 
cheated, here was a new kid on the block that she had to share food, water, 
toys, bed and mommy and daddy with.  Spike was eager to have a home and a 
new buddy.  Harry was aggresive, she would claw at Spike, growl and even 
pissed on the floor.  We would leave the two of them together when we could 
supervise, but as soon as they started any aggresive behavior they were 
seperated.  We took turns with who would get locked in the bedroom.  We 
made sure they both got the same amount of love and affection.  After two 
days Harry started to be more friendly although she did not like Spike 
using "her" litter box.  By the fourth day they were the best of friends 
and we did not have to let them fight with each other to get there.  In 
case it matters Harry is female, and Spike is male.  They were only 4 - 6 
months old when we introduced them.  My advice is to be patient and do your 
best to keep them from duking it out.
From: ccspjs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Pete J Suters)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: "weird" cat things
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:39:52 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK

>Bonni Ensminger (bonni@ferris.cray.com) wrote:
>: Winston only likes to lay under the covers like that when I'm making the bed.
>: As soon as I strip all the sheets off, he jumps up, patiently waiting for
>: me to start making the bed.  Then he stays under the sheets for about 15
>: minutes, and doesn't go under until the next time I change the sheets.  

  Roo does this too, but only on my bed for some reason.  We call
it "tunnelling" or "playing submarines".  She'll run up and down,
getting more and more worked up, and then if you make the slightest
movement of the sheet on top of her, she'll launch a mass attack
to make you wish that you didn't!!

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From: pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: cats&music
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:49:01 GMT
Reply-To: pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens)
Organization: m4

My Tara has absolutely no interest at all in pre-recorded music.  Only
if it is really loud does she seem to even acknowledge that it is there.
However, she is selectively interested in some of my drum/percussion
instruments:

Drum Set - This is just too loud for her.  She can't be in the same room
	(they're in a spare bedroom) while I'm playing.  She will, however,
	usually sit just outside the door and wait for me to finish.  I
	don't think she does this to listen in.  She just waits for me
	to stop and come out so she can yell at me, "I've been waiting her
	for some attention!"

Small hand drums - She has some limited interest in these.  She will stay
	near but start to complain if I play too long without acknowledging
	her.

Berimbau - This is a weird Brazilian instrument.  It looks like a bow (as
	in bow and arrow) with a metal wire instead of string.  It produces
	a very strange droning hypnotic sound.  Tara really likes this
	instrument.  She will come find me when I play it, hunker down
	into a bread loaf and purr away until I stop.

+------------------------------------------------------------------------+

   Paul Stevens                        {apple|decwrl}!metaphor!pstevens
   Metaphor Computer Systems           pstevens@metaphor.com
   Mountain View, CA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: adwright@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: spit up
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:09:16 GMT

In <antonial.4.721922096@dhhalden.no> antonial@dhhalden.no (ANTONIA LUDVIGSEN REIME) writes:

>hello Kevin!
>Your cat spits up some foamy stuff..
In my experience when its foamy its a hairball. TRy a little Laxatone.

>You should look closer at the spit-up next time and see if it contains small 
>parts of white worms. Most cats have to have worm-medicine regularily, about 
>once or twice a year if it is often outdoors.Contact your vet. for medicine. 
>Worms can spread out of the cat\s stomack to other inner organs.
>Be aware that cats also vomit hairballs after liking its fur for along time.
>Especially cats with long fur.

>I hope this was of help, and good luck with your cat!


>Antonia
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: mpmarie@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (MARIE HUCOVSKY)
Subject: cat talk
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 23 Nov 1992 10:32 EST  

I have been reading this group for a couple of weeks and finally have 
discovered how to post for myself.  I read a posting from a women that had 
a bad experience at her local Humane Society Shelter.  She stated at the 
end of her message that these shelters should be in better condition, after 
all isn't this what our tax dollars are paying for.  I wanted to mention 
that there is no government funding for animal shelters within the USA.  We 
sure could use some kind of financial assistance from our government.  The 
shelters in my area are so overcrowded that they are not even putting names 
on a waiting list.  We need to let our representatives in Washington D.C. 
aware that we need to have a national neutering/spaying law and financial 
funding for our shelters.

Both my cats, Harry and Spike, love to play slide on the rug game.  When I 
get home from work there they sit with those guilty looks on their faces 
and all my rugs bunched up in corners of the house.  I even caught them in 
the act once.  They run down the hallway and into one of the rooms that 
have a loose rug on the floor and they slide on it across the floor.  


Marie, Spike and Harry 
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