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From: kellsworth@pbs.org (Rufus T. Firefly)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Travel to England: Certify the camera????????
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:09:44 EDT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department

In article <BvAKvH.Fnr@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, maryd@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (M.Dugan) writes:
> 
> I'm considering travelling to England with my daughter on a
> school-sponsored tour.
> 
> One of the things the teacher said we would need to do if we go is to
> be sure we have a receipt or some other proof that our foreign-made
> cameras were purchased here in the US.
> 
> This seems kind of screwy to me.  I mean, don't 99% of US tourists carry
> foreign-made cameras?  And how in the heck am I supposed to prove
> that a camera I bought 3 years ago was purchased here--I sure don't
> keep receipts THAT long.
> 
> 
You don't have to prove anything about where you purchased your camera 
(or radio or watch or 25 karat emerald necklace, etc).  What you need is
something to show that, upon return to this country, the item in question
was in your possession when you left this country.  This simply prevents
the US Customs Service from charging you duty on it as though you had 
purchased it overseas. 

Give your local U.S. Customs Service or U.S. Department of Commerce office
a call and ask them how you should handle this.  I have a camera with
several lenses and other accessories.  When they were new and without 
blemish, I took them to the local Customs Service office and filled out
a form with item descriptions and serial numbers.  The agent signed off
on it, and I still carry it with my passport when traveling overseas.

Good luck!

-Keith
From: tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: MIG welder for sale.
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:17:30 CST
Distribution: na
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO

In article <4eo5A1600Uh7I2KVYP@andrew.cmu.edu>, jn1h+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Robert Nadzam) writes:
> For sale one 90 amp powermate MIG welder

Um, Is this a travel model MIG welder?    ;-)

Ted Feuerbach - Scientific Systems Consultant
Xref: sparky rec.travel:13722 ucb.general:9
From: rhart@haas.berkeley.edu (Richard Hart)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,ucb.general,ucb.grads
Subject: Trip to Eastern Europe this Winter
Date: 27 Sep 1992 22:27:10 GMT
Organization: Haas School of Business, Berkeley
Distribution: ucb
NNTP-Posting-Host: haas.berkeley.edu
Summary: Business School trip to Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Russia

The Haas School is organizing a trip to Eastern Europe from 1/1/93-1/18/92.
Right now we're looking at Berlin, Prague, Budapest and St. Petersburg. 
The aim is to visit companies and agencies in Eastern Europe to check out
business conditions and learn first-hand how the conversion to market
economics is working (or not!).  There will also be time for sightseeing
and other fun activities.

If you're interested, please send email to saliman@haas.berkeley.edu, or
call Scott Saliman at (415) 296-7507.

Richard Hart
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu (Noah Cole)
Subject: Re: Need info on Minnesota and it's surroundings.
Organization: Macalester College, St. Paul Minnesota USA
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 16:53:53 GMT

long@taurus.esd.sgi.com (Long Nguyen) writes:

>I am planning a trip to Minnesota this 15th of October.  This will be my
>second state outside of California since my arrival to the US.  I have no
>idea on what to bring and where to go.  If any of you have ideas on what
>to pack for and what to do once I'm there, please drop me a line or two.

>Any info will be greatly appreciated.


Well, I would oack for all weather possibilities.  Last year (it was rare),
thjere was a snow storm of 3 fee t onm the 31st of November, rather Octobrt
and the snopw stayed all season untill May.  At the moment here in Mionnesota, it is 75 degrees and Sunny, but it is going to cool off this week and rain early next week. Bring shorts and winter clothes...

As for things to do, (I suume, er assume that you will be in Minneapolis/
St. Paul), the cities offer many activities. You must visit the MegaMall (The
Mall of America, the largest in the US).  It is really gross in terms of it's size etc.. but it is a sight to see and something that you can say that you visited.  Other things to visit include the Guthree Thr theatre and the adjoining (newly renovated) sculpture garden.

Have fun on your trip here!

-Noah Cole
--
Macalester College
St. Paul, MN 55105-1899
(612)-696-7388
NCOLE@MACALSTR.EDU
From: ctobias@violet.ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Dolphin Research Center on Hawaii
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:10:35 GMT
Distribution: world,local

Does anyone know anything about a dolphin research center on the island of
Hawaii?  Where is it?  Do they allow visitors? I saw it mentioned with no
further detail in a National Geographic article.  Cindy
cltobias@ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jyc@leo.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis)
Subject: Re: Driving from San Fran to Las Vegas
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date:  3 Oct 92 03:04:57 GMT

kmludvic@eos.ncsu.edu (@color(DarkViolet)@b(@large(@i(The Admiral)))) writes:


>Well, excuse me!! I am sorry! I didn't realize it was a major faux paux!

   That's alright.  You've realized the error of your ways.  We'll let
you come back now.   
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: kmludvic@eos.ncsu.edu (@color(DarkViolet)@b(@large(@i(The Admiral))))
Subject: Re: Driving from San Fran to Las Vegas
Originator: kmludvic@c00387-346dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: kmludvic@eos.ncsu.edu (@color(DarkViolet)@b(@large(@i(The Admiral))))
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:23:40 GMT


I'd definitely recommend(sp?) driving downHighway 1 the scenery is absolutley 
beautiful. There are many places to stop.Santa Cruz is only an hour or so away
Hearst Castle is nice.If you are going to spend some time travelling ,that is.
I hope you have fun I really LOVE the West coast and was just out to Frisco 
this past spring!



               Enjoy !
                     Karen
From: ih@huey.udel.edu (Charlie Ih)
Subject: Re: Time Share Vacations (On the positive side)
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:45:58 GMT

In article <Bv5LsJ.1Cv@news.larc.nasa.gov> vac@air16.larc.nasa.gov (Victor A. Carreno) writes:
>I wrote:
>
>>In article <2140160@otter.hpl.hp.com> you write:
>>|> Two questions:
>>|>  ........ end up giving it away ...
>>
>>Yes, I just did. Net loss US$ 5600. Maintenance kept going up. ....
>>
>>My advise: 
>>
>>1. If you have the money, put it in some type of money market saving
>>certificate. .....
>>
>>2. If you are going to buy it on credit, put the money you would have paid
>>monthly, plus maintenance fees, in a savings account (you need some
>>discipline here). .....
>
>Then ih@huey.udel.edu (Charlie Ih) wrote:
>
>> Do you (and the family) have the desire, time,
>> and money to have a vacation every year at some exotic places?
>> If the answer is yes, then buy a timeshare may be better than the
>> two alternatives list above particularly at the current resale
>> market and because of the taxes.
>
>Dear Charlie, I think you didn't understand what I was saying. I am not
>talking about NOT taking the vacation. I am saying that, today, I can go to
>the same place I had my time share and stay there for a week for $630. If
>maintenance fees are $230 a year and RCI $50 a year plus $50 if you
>exchange, then you get the privilege of staying there for $300 less if you
>invest, in my case, $5600. ....

Thank you for taking your time to clarify.

I tried to be careful on my words.  I guess it was not clear.  I said

  "If the answer is yes (meaning taking vacation every year),
   then buy a timeshare may be better than the
			^^^^^^
   two alternatives list above particularly at the current resale
			       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   market and because of the taxes."

If you pay $630 using after tax money for the week, you have to
earn more than $1,000 (many are in the 31% tax bracket plus state
tax).  So they are approximately the same.  Of course if you can
claim that it is business expenses or use interest from a
high paying tax free bond, or consistently get 20% plus
return from stock market, then it is a different story.  That is
why I said "may be".
From: ebuhwe@ebu.ericsson.se (Per Harwe 6247)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: DELTA from NY
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:11:37 GMT
Reply-To: ebuhwe@ebu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Business Communications, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson in North America.
              The opinions expressed are strictly those of the user and
              not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article 15053@hippo.ru.ac.za, phjj@ruchem.ru.ac.za (Justin Jonas) writes:
>Can anyone tell me which New York airports are serviced by Delta
>airlines?  I need to fly to BWI in Maryland.  Also any tips on
>the Delta air pass deal would be appreciated

Delta serves all three NY area airports. It all depends where you are
coming from and going to.  I beleive ALL international flights are at JFK
(The old PanAm terminals). According to the June time table (and I don't
think it's changed) you are in luck. All their Baltimore flights (3 daily
and 1 Mo-Sa) are from JFK to BWI.

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From: karlab@usul.Eng.Sun.COM (Karla Black SunSoft-Software Test Engineer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: GETAWAY
Keywords: beachfront,monterey,santa.cruz,beach,vacation,
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:21:46 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: usul


	PAJARO DUNES.......Monterey Bay


        1 Bedroom Oceanfront Condo

        $185 / weekend

        $475 / week

        This is the best location.  The patio

        doors open up right in front of the beach.

        This is the downstairs unit.  All amenities!


       *****Send email for more information OR call (408) 358-3201
       for reservations**** Just use this email as a reference.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: belk@dxcern.cern.ch (Andy Belk)
Subject: Re: Keyna Safari Info Wanted
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 08:36:33 GMT

More on the Kenya/Tanzania Safari line ...

I went to Tanzania (passing through Kenya) last November and just arranged
a Safari (only three days though) when I got there. It cost about $120 each
for two of us, including everything like petrol, park fees, campsite fees,
food, etc. We started out in Arusha and went (via Lake Manyara) to the
Ngorongoro crater. There's no problem finding safaris - they come and find you.

Incidentally, I was somewhat surprised to hear $35 a night for a cabin as 
'cheap'. Bear in mind the average Tanzanian ANNUAL wage is $200, and you get
the idea. These places are ONLY for tourists (though Tanzanians get in for 
about a 6th of the price).

Andy
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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: munish@maitland.cs.ucf.edu (Munish Jain)
Subject: Accommodation Available in Orlando,FL in Dec
Summary: Accommodation available in Orlando,FL in Dec.
Keywords: Accommodation, Orlando, December
Organization: University of Central Florida
Distribution: rec
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 19:01:19 GMT

hi

For all those who are planning to visit sunny florida in December/early
January, keep reading on.

My room is available (in a 2bd-rm apt) from 2nd week of Dec. until
1st week of January as I will be out of Orlando during that period.
If anybody is willing to rent for this period then contact me. I will
also consider renting for part of this period.

It is a nice apt. with living room/kitchen and other appliances
including a microwave oven. It is located in East Orlando and all
tourist attractions are easily accessible from here.

If interested contact me at munish@cs.ucf.edu

munish

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From: lhess@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Leah Surber)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Info on Seawind Cruise Line
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:45:45 GMT
Reply-To: lhess@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Leah Hess-Surber)
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC


Does anyone have any experience with or knowledge of a newer cruise line
called Seawind?  It sails out of Aruba and does the southern Caribbean.
I believe the ship is the Seawind Crown - an older refurb, smaller ship -
approx 625 passengers - 24,000 tons.

We had a trip booked for late October, but they canceled due to overbooking -
by a *huge* amount.  They are offerding upgrades if we wait until Spring.  Any
suggestions -- Is it worth the wait,  are these situations (overbooking)
frequent?  Do the upgrades pan out?

Thanks in advance.

Leah
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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: tenhunen@ntc01.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: pls. repost "what to do in SF"
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 11:16:28 GMT


Hi,

I heard that some time ago here was something like 
"what to do in SF" at this table. Does someone still
have it? Could you please repost it, as I am travelling
to SF within a week or so.


Thanks in advance,  Antti
From: dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: S-Utah and S-Colorado in December
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:42:35 GMT
Reply-To: dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems


I believe the north rim of the Grand Canyon is closed in the winter.
Better check (south rim remains open, though).

	Dave
From: dragel@sqhilton.pc.cs.cmu.edu (Cheryl Dragel)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: us air strike Q
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:39:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <Oct06.180840.65996@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>  
shecht@lamar.ColoState.EDU (steven heckt) writes:
> 
> 	Ok, now that I followed the wonderful advice of people in this
> 	group in planning my honeymoon, I am worried about the us air
> 	strike. We are to leave this SUN. What happens when an airline
> 	is on strike? Obviously, I cannot in this time get cheap tickets
> 	on another line- or will my tikets be honored by other companies?
> 	I remember back in may that some of those other flights were
> 	getting full!  thanks for help from you more experienced travlers.

Call the airline.  The airline is not on strike; its machinists
are.  From what we hear here in Pittsburgh, where US Air is
based, not all flights have been affected, although there
have been disruptions in service.

--cheryl
Newsgroups: rec.travel,misc.consumers
From: splee@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Seng-Poh Lee)
Subject: AMEX or Citibank rental LDW/CDW coverage better?
Organization: Alchemy International
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 20:18:52 GMT

Does an AMEX or CitiVisa Gold card provide the same rental LDW/CDW
coverage? If not, which is better? Does either cover travel to Canada
from the US, assumming the rental company allows you to take the car to
Canada? 

-- 
Seng-Poh Lee <splee@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu>

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: eugene@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Simple suggestions for travel (net reminders really)
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 11:30:12 GMT
Reply-To: eugene@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)

Rec.travel: one of the best news groups, let's keep it that way.
Considerations to minimize needless repetitive postings:

If you want travel information, consider traditional sources such as
the auto club and travel agents, because they can give info the net
can't, like maps.  SEEK them BEFORE posting.  These sources are usually
free and quite detailed.  Try the Yellow Pages(tm) (finger walking).
Phone are much faster.

If you are uncertain about posting, ask someone on the net by mail
before posting, this will minimize flames and not burn out oldsters.
Many network mentors will gladly help by email.

Minimize cross-posting.  Also consider posting to more specialized
groups than travel.

By all means, if you have really bizzare kinds of questions,
like the time of the next solar eclipse at the South Pole, do post.
Everyone would enjoy it.  The net is best used for discussions,
but queries are best answered by mail.

There is no requirement that postings be made in English.

From: ssl@hpkslx.mayfield.HP.COM (SSL Guest User)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 23:43:56 GMT
Subject: Re: Inn in Carmel??
Organization: HP Response Center Lab
Newsgroups: rec.travel

 Is it possible that the hotel you are talking about is either:

 1) Highlands Inn 
 
or

 2) Tickle Pink (right next door to 1), but much cheaper)
From: John.Risk@bbs.oit.unc.edu (John Risk)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Singapore air tix cheap
Keywords: singapore, air, tickets, travel
Date: 6 Oct 92 04:47:28 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <70mz1md@rpi.edu> lingy@rpi.edu writes:
>Hi there,
>	Can anyone recomment me any places where I can get air tickets to
>Singapore for less than 800 if possible? Travel time will be in the
>2nd week of december, but I will be ordering the tix around now (if i could
>find the right price of course 8-) )
>
>Dan
>

Have you tried you local travel agent?  I asked my sister-in-law about
varrying rates (she owns a travel agency), and only 3 things can affect
your rates.

1.  The most common way to save, to to have an agent search for the best
price for you, rather than call an airline, as they will just sell their
on tickets if possible.

2.  Timing.  This is somewhat random, since price changes are unannounced.
 You could possibly save by buying early, or you could hope for a price war.

3.  Find someone who owns the ticket you want, and is no longer going to
use it.

If you don't have a local agent, I am sure she would be willing to help. 
Her agency number is 1-800-878-2766 (Carroll)

John

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From: fredrick@walega1.acd.ucar.edu (Tim Fredrick)
Subject: Re: Yellowstone/GT National Parks in Oct.?
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Atmospheric Chemistry
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:56:53 GMT

In article <92273.011512KCHAN@ESOC.BITNET> KCHAN@ESOC.BITNET writes:
>I was there in the 3rd week of October last year. If you are looking for
>lodging in Yellowstone, that's the last week that the lodging is available
>beofre the start of the winter season and only at Old Faithful. Don't know
>about Grand Teton, but there are plenty of lodging available in Jackson Hole
>which is less than 30 min from the main Ranger Station.

...
>Useful phone numbers:
>yellowstone park info: (307)344-7381
>grand teton park info: (307)733-2880
>tw recreational services (yellowstone lodging): (307)344-7311


I was there over Labor Day -- they had about 3-6" of snow in the Northeast
corner and roads going into Montana were closed.  Most of the trees had
already changed color at that time.  However, it was an unusually cold
weekend over the entire area, and you could luck out with nice weather
as late as October. At any time of the year, be sure to prepare for cold weather
and rain.  I'm planning on going again in 2 weeks -- Yellowstone is a great
place to visit in October.  It's quiet, and much of the wildlife migrates to
the thermal areas providing better opportunity for viewing.  If you can't
stay in the park, West Yellowstone is open throughout the year and has
excellent (if somewhat expensive) accomodations.

--Tim (fredrick@acd.ucar.edu)
  Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Boulder, CO 80307-1000

Newsgroups: rec.travel,misc.consumers
From: alasnik@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Adam Lasnik)
Subject: Re: DISCOVER card (Was Re: Credit cards with more than 14 days loss and damage coverage for rental cars?)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 04:29:10 GMT

In <1992Sep30.024208.28791@samba.oit.unc.edu> Karen.Denbleyker@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Karen Denbleyker) writes:

>The Discover Card is fine, unless you live in North Carolina or Wisconsin.
>They charge a $15 annual fee in only those two states.  I'm thinking
>about cancelling mine.
>--

THINKING about?  Geez, I have no annual fee attached to my Discover card, and
I'm very close to canceling it unless they pay ME to keep darn thing :-)
Seriously though, it's got an obnoxiously high interest rate, and their
commercials about their "interest-free" loans are stupid and insulting
(considering the 2 or 2.5% surcharge for less than a month of a loan -- that
works out to an actual interest charge of between 24 and 30 per cent!)

Their customer service people ain't exactly the brightest, and the card
completely lacks nearly all the features I get from my FREE AT&T Mastercard. 
It seems to lack most features of ANY reputable credit card.  And the darn
thing ain't even a "real" credit card to begin with :-)  So tell me -- why
WOULD you keep it?

--ADAM "KEYS" LASNIK from Northwestern
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jzh2485@rigel.tamu.edu (HINTON, JOHNNY ZANE)
Subject:  Tortola
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:31:00 GMT

	Anybody ever been there?  I will be there in February
	and I am seeking advice on what to do there etc.

	Thanks John Z.  email jzh2485@zeus.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: New Zealand in the Summer
From: jeremy@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Jeremy Gibbons)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 04:12:36 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland
Keywords: Skiing

In <3988@cvbnetPrime.COM> pdelaney@morgan.Berkeley.EDU (Peter Delaney) writes:

>I am looking for information about skiing in New Zealand in August 
>or September.  

Useful piece of information: August and September are not in the summer.

:-)

Jeremy

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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: mpalmer@encore.com (Mike Palmer)
Subject: Re: Phuket
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 19:20:16 GMT

reno@darlo.Eng.Sun.COM (Reno Marioni) writes:

>In article <111.25534@okys.infoserv.com> madsere@okys.infoserv.com (Rene Madsen) writes:
>>In article <BHAG.92Sep22124859@etn.etn.ericsson.se>, bhag@etn.ericsson.se (Boerge Haga 2634) writes:
>>> In article <rw.717123029@donner> rw@donner.Rational.COM (Bob Weissman) writes:
>>> 
>>>    How do you pronounce "Phuket", anyway?
>>> 
>>> If you go to Thailand most people will pronoune it like the word "pocket"
>>> but with the "o" replaced by the "u" sound in e.g. "pull".
>>
>>sawatdee khrap, 
>>
>>You're close. Take the 'pu' from 'pull' and the 'ket' from 'rocket'. 
>>Stress on the 'ket' part.

>When I was there I heard some people pronounce Phuket as "Fuck it".
>Quite amusing but not correct as you see above.

Even more amusing is the airport code:  FUK   !!!  (I kid you not, I was quite
amused to see flights coming from FUK when I was in Taiwan.)`