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From: rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Vulnerability
Date: 23 Jan 1993 11:06:28 GMT
Organization: Just me.
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Summary: I was thinking exactly the same thing.  Must be empathy.

wolfe@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
>        To be quite honest, in general, despite apperances, Males are
>        far more emotional then famales, which is why they build elaborate
>        defences, and can at time seem insensitive.  But perhaps this is
>        a discussion for another time and place. :)
>

I had the exact same thought a couple days ago, while driving...

I thought, "If women are so emotionaly sensitive, why don't most of them
		hide behind masks of invulnerability like most men do?"

	If you ask me, women are the Storm Troopers of emotional warfare.

(Note that I can say this objectively as I haven't been dumped on, lately.)

Rick Miller   <rick@ee.uwm.edu> | <rick@discus.mil.wi.us>   Ricxjo Muelisto
Occupation:  Husband, Father, WEPCo. WAN Mgr., Discus Sys0p, and  Linux fan
From: EEE92003@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Pern Movie?
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:19:44 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, United Kingdom
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==============================================================================
Just a quick note:
       Does anyone out there know if these rumors about a Pern-based film
are correct. If you do, can you tell me wether it will be an animation
(I hope not) or if it uses real actors, who the stars will be.
Thank you for listening, and I hope you reply soon.

Evan.

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From: aaronson@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (David Aaronson)
Subject: Holding on a muse
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 07:49:37 GMT




Ok, I have a few thoughts to add to those of Falryx and the others about
muse destinies..
First, I am only a member of Dragonsfire among the Pern muses so the
experiences I relate are based therein.  Now, I am a holder, and I
personally try to come up with a unique 'project', or job if you will, for
each of my residents.  I believe this has several advantages;  primarily it
keeps the residents entertained, at least to an extent.  Most residents of
the major holds are just that- residents.  They have no IC duties, they
exist only to socialize and prepare for their day as a candidate.  
  Obviously, this is a harder task at a hold with 20 residents than a
smaller, newer hold like mine, but I've talked with several people on the
muse, and I feel perfectly justified in not accepting new residents if I
dont have something for them to do.  
  Above and beyond all this, I think there is a far more pertinent reason
why Hold life just doesnt exist as a career for many players.  Not only
does any new player want a dragon, but most of the old ones already have
one.  I think it sets an example to see that most of the Lord Holders, a
position which should be satisfying by itself, also have rider characters.
Offhand, I can think of only one other Lord/Lady Holder, or even minor
holder on DF that does NOT have a rider character besides myself.  So, how
can you expect a newbie to believe that weyrs are not the ultimate goal of
a muse when obviously the non-weyr folk attempt to get in on the
dragon-action too?
  
  Ok, you might argue that a newbie wouldnt know about all the double
characters, but that isn't my point.  My point is similar to Falryx's
original point, and so I pose this question to all you Lord Holders and
Craftmasters out there on any mus*....  What is so necessary about being a
rider, that your craft/hold position isn't enough?
After all....
 Think about how many of the actual books were written with a rider as the
main character... only about half.  So then why doesnt anyone want to be a
simple harper girl?  Or even a trader?


--Tethys.  Holder at Far Cry .. Dragonsfire muse (chronos.clock.org 4444)
                                                 (this week anyway.)
     
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From: shagstr@eis.calstate.edu (Shirley Hagstrom)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Hearing dragons
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:26:08 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services


  

    Odd..I've been on PernMush for over a year and a half..t(..


 I am curious if I would be 'breaking the unwriten rules' by hearing the 
few dragons that have said << Thank you >> after healing them or their
rider or their rider's firelizard's injuries as a DragonHealer??

  I never made any claim to hear all dragons, but have been very flattered
when the few that do talk to me have 'brightened my day' a bit...

   Since I never had a dragon on PernMush..Sometimes, I have to settle for 
talking to other people's dragons..Wiether they answer or not..  But then,
 a person who dedicates their life to Healing dragons would tend to prefer
talking to them, then humans anyway..Even if they don't choose to talk back,
sometimes just body language or a happy croon is all the answer one needs.


                           

                    'Dances with dragons'..




                 
                      Jazmyn@PernMush   (WeyrHerder and DragonHealer)


                              'I feed em and I keep em healthy'
From: wolfe@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: Questions of Internal Consistency
Date: 22 Jan 93 04:37:53 EST
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

    I often wonder if folks only ever read every other line.  Jaxom
  obtained his Ruathan Blood from his mother, Lady Gemma, who Fax
  had married to give some legitamacy to his hold on Ruatha.  She
  was one of the few remaining indiviuals, other than Lessa herself
  who possessed Ruathan blood.  Aramina and her family were the only
  others I recall that survived.  Jaxom did have Ruathan blood, though
  his claim to Ruatha was not as strong as Lessa's...
 
 
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From: cag@ems.cdc.com (Carol Gaupp)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: SF or Fantasy?
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:32:11 GMT
Reply-To: cag@ems.cdc.com
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of Ceridian

In article <damiene.727749849@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au>, damiene@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Eccles) writes:
|> 
|> um.... I agree..... until Crystal Line.
|> Tip for upandcoming writers - don't have your main character
|> having no memory..... book becomes silly v. quickly.
|> 
|> Eccles

   Actually, I personally disagree with this. I found her (Killashandra's)
   decline very interesting and was disappointed at the ending solution.

   
   Brandy@CrystalMUSH

Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
From: ladyk@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Catarina Ang)
Subject: Re: Felines
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 05:49:59 GMT


>I have it here in my sweaty little palms....

>Title:  The People of Pern
>Author:  Robin Wood
>Text and Intro:  Anne M.
>Publisher:  The Downing Company Publishers
>Distributor:  Schiffer Publisher Ltd.
>Copywright:  1988
>ISBN:  0-89865-751-2  (paperback)

	Um, and here's my bit.
Donning Co. 
5659 Virginia Beach Boulevard
Norfolk, Virginia 23502
151 pages hardback
Copyright 1988
isbn 0 89865 635 4 probably for hard back one.
us 19.95 can 25.95
Please excuse mess, I'm in a rush.

-----
	Lady K
 A ripple of laughter drifts to your ears ... and is cut off abruptly as
the door to the Ivory Tower slams shut.
  ladyk@yoyo.cc.monash.au.edu
-----
From: renehill@acsu.buffalo.edu (Rene M. Hill)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: People of Pern
Date: 25 Jan 93 03:00:31 GMT
Organization: UB


People of Pern is available through the Science Fiction Book club, as well-
it might be easiest to get it from them, since I've never seen it in any
bookstores.

SFBC Member Service Center
6550 E. 30th St.
PO Box 6325
Indianapolis, Indiana 46206-6325

-Rene'
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From: starhunter@cix.compulink.co.uk (Peter Boulter)
Subject: Re: Pern Music?
Reply-To: starhunter@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:40:00 +0000


In article <C1298M.9p5@unix.amherst.edu>, kewasiel@unix.amherst.edu (They call-
 me Ren) writes:
>
>do you have it?  have you heard it?  is it any good?

To answer your questions in order: Yes, Yes, Yes.

The tape contains a number of songs interspersed with readings by
Anne which 'link' them together.  The theme is the storyline from
the Haper Hall books with Menollys adventures as the main link.
(not surprising for a tape of Pernese songs)

Peter.

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 *   *    Peter Boulter                    | Someone makes them and
  ***     ---------------------------------| gets paid for making
 *   *    starhunter@cix.compulink.co.uk   | them.
-------------------------------------------|  - Dr.W.Edwards-Deming
From: troot@cats.ucsc.edu (Timothy H Root)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.nathan.brazil
Subject: Test! Don't read.
Date: 27 Jan 1993 02:42:31 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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This is a test.
Sorry!

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From: lodge@owlnet.rice.edu (David John Lodge)
Subject: Re: The RPG, switching bodies, and the PBEM rpg.
Followup-To: alt.fan.nathan.brazil
Organization: Rice University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:56:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.121638.2965@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu>, bonapart@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
|> Hi, all.
|> 
|>     To those of you who own copies, how hard would it be to persuade you to
|> run the sucker by your local copy-place and duplicate all or part of it?
|> I'd be willing to reimburse you, of course, for both copy fees and postage.
|> If nothing else, I'd be interested in the complete maps and race, etc,
|> descriptions.  Or, if you'ld want to get rid of it, I'd be interested
|> in buying it.  (For a reasonable price)
|> 
|>     As for the 'Chalker talks about body switching' comment, well, yes
|> he does.  But he did it before anybody else would dare to, I think, and
|> he's done it very well in a few places.  Besides, I think body-switching
|> can be damn interesting.
|> 
|>    I'll continue thinking of possibilities for the PBEM rpg game.  The 
|> advantage to doing it in this format is that I can start people anywhere
|> on the well world and not, as in rl, send all but one of you out of the room
|> while working on someone.
|> 
|> Hmmm...
|> -john
|> bonapart@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
|> 

I for one can also see the wonderful opportunities presented by a WoS PBEM.  I
would love to play in one myself.  I have borrowed some of the WoS races in the
past for use in AD&D, and I have found some of the cultural information in the
series quite helpful.  I, too, would be interested in seeing a copy of this game,
mostly, as has been said, for the maps and races, etc.

- Corwin
  lodge@owlnet.rice.edu 
-- 
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see it tried on him personally.
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:37:55 -0500 
From: Chad Adam <ca25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Favorite Bond Quote

Well, let's see...how about in the Living Daylights:

When Kara expresses puzzlement at Bond when he opens a panel of
controls on his Aston Martin....

Bond replys...: "I've had a few optional extras installed"  

I love it!
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From: startrek@camelot.bradley.edu (Joseph Schaeffer)
Subject: Re: Sound Tracks
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 24 Jan 93 00:39:12 GMT

In <8fM1JU200WBMM2DHwG@andrew.cmu.edu> Maulik Harish Shah <msb0+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:


>What do people think about the different Bond themes/music? I personally
>liked "A View to a Kill" (the movie wasn't that great but I loved the
>music). 
>Also, does anybody know of any CD's out there with Bond Themes?


	Just released a couple of months ago to celebrate the 30th 
	Anniversary of James Bond is a 2 CD collection of Bond Movie
	Theme Songs, as well as the 007 track, and some unreleased
	radio promos.  It runs about $25.

							Joe
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From: muchor@zow12.desy.de (Krzys Muchorowski (Warsaw))
Subject: Re: Sound Tracks
Reply-To: muchor@vax58b.desy.de
Organization: DESY
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:53:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.205619.8570@news.columbia.edu>, pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
|>
|>In article <8fM1JU200WBMM2DHwG@andrew.cmu.edu> Maulik Harish Shah <msb0+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|>>
|>>What do people think about the different Bond themes/music? I personally
|>>liked "A View to a Kill" (the movie wasn't that great but I loved the
|>>music). 
|>>Also, does anybody know of any CD's out there with Bond Themes?
|>>
|>I saw quite a number reissued by Liberty Records on CD, but you might have to
|>check those $7.00 CDs or less racks. 
|>
|>I like Dr. No, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Live And Let Die, The Spy Who
|>Loved Me, and The Living Daylights as a whole. The rest had cool songs, but
|>not enough to keep me interested in listening to the whole thing. Oh yeah, I
|>forgot about For Your Eyes Only, which I thought was the best of the Bond
|>soundtracks.
|>
|>wei hao
|>
|>
|>Wei Hao Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
|>"Where would we be without the ability to let our minds wander? And where could
|> we go if our emotions were submerged down under our souls? Their master
|> control plan will fail as the young minds prevail in pure genetic wisom."
|>

Oh, one cannot forget Diamonds Are Forever, with Shirley Bassey (sp?) really
fantastic. And I agree, A View To A Kill was also very, very good.
   Krzys

.nosig
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Favorite Bond Quote
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 02:21:39 GMT

In article <colinm.727836728@cunews> colinm@max.carleton.ca (Colin McFadyen) writes:
>Thunderball:
>Excuse my friend...she's just dead.
>
>Diamonds Are Forever:
>You've just killed James Bond!

"It just goes to show you nobody lives forever..."

I think I got that quote right. Haven't seen the movie since Christmas break.

wei hao
Wei Hao Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Where would we be without the ability to let our minds wander? And where could
 we go if our emotions were submerged down under our souls? Their master
 control plan will fail as the young minds prevail in pure genetic wisom."
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Sound Tracks
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:11:56 GMT

In article <93025.121108TOM@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> <TOM@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes:
>Sound Tracks, yes indeed; My favorite is "For Your Eyes Only" sung by

The rest of the soundtrack is even better...like "Runaway," "Submarine," etc.


>Sheena Easton, lyrics by Michael Leeson, which was also a Academy Award
>nomination in 1981.


>Can't leave out; "The Original James Bond Theme" by John Barry
>
Have you heard the "Bond 77" version from The Spy Who Loved Me soundtrack?
Another good one is "Ice Chase" from The Living Daylights. I also liked
"The James Bond Theme" from Live And Let Die. Cool one is "Mister Kiss Kiss
Bang Bang." I don't remember, but has it ever been recorded with vocals? I
haven't listend to the Thunderball soundtrack in years, and while I know
the track is on the album several times, I don't recall anyone singing it.
I have the lyrics, though, and if there is a demand for it I can post them
or send by e-mail. I also like "007" from the Connery series.

"The Living Daylights" I think is a-ha's best song with "Take On Me." I
can't remember anything else by a-ha that intrigued me. Too bad some of the
lyrics didn't make much sense.

wei hao



Wang Wei Hao                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"I have loved, I have lost, I have killed those who have loved me so. I have 
 learned, but at what cost, Lord, I don't know... I'm living on borrowed time"
                       - Diamond Head, "Living On Borrowed Time"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
From: santoro@leland.Stanford.EDU (Alexandre Jose Reis Santoro)
Subject: re: Moonraker
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 23:31:41 GMT

In article <C19CC8.DDo@encore.com> root@encore.com (root) writes:
>I knew this movie was bad, but the downright lazy attitude to continuinty
>was real bad, Eg:  Bond takes a flight to RIO.  It's called over the airport
>speakers as BA128 (a British Airways flight).
>He's then shown arriving on concorde in RIO, but wait it's an Air France
>concorde!  (Also all SSC flights are 001, 002 etc - I don't think they
>ever get up to 007 though!)

That is not the worst of the many errors in this film.

My favorite one is the fact that he supposedly goes exploring a river in the
north-central region of Brazil, falls off a waterfall that is in the south part of the country and hang-glides all the way to Guatemala. 

- Alex 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
From: nbridges@isdmnl.wr.usgs.gov
Subject: Complete movie chronology
Organization: U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY, MENLO PARK
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 20:33:25 GMT

No one has posted a movie chronology yet, so I thought I'd step in:

Doctor No (1962)
From Russia With Love (1963)
Goldfinger (1964)
Thunderball (1965)
You Only Live Twice (1967)
On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969)
Diamonds Are Forever (1971)
Live and Let Die (1973)
The Man With the Golden Gun (1974)
The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
Moonraker (1979)
For Your Eyes Only (1981)
Octopussy (1983)
A View to a Kill (1985)
The Living Daylights (1987)
License to Kill (1989)


   There was also the spoof Casino Royale in 1967 and the non-Broccoli/
Saltman film Never Say Never Again in 1983.  The next Bond film should be
out by next year.  No word on a title, though my guess would be License
Renewed since it fits in with the last movie's story line and is a John
Gardner book.

                                                            Nathan Bridges
                                                            Menlo Park, CA
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From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Favorite Bond Quote
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:21:42 GMT

In article <UfM_y3q00aw_84FLh5@andrew.cmu.edu> Chad Adam <ca25+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Well, let's see...how about in the Living Daylights:
>
>When Kara expresses puzzlement at Bond when he opens a panel of
>controls on his Aston Martin....
>
>Bond replys...: "I've had a few optional extras installed"  
>
>I love it!

He does this in From Russia With Love and again in The Living Daylights...

he's with a girl, former with Sylvia Trench, latter with some Beverly Hills
90210 person who they should have left out at sea (not a person from the series
but her attitude makes me think of what the people on 90210 must be thinking 
about a lot), and Bond has just talked to M.I.6 and he says "Tell M. I'll be
there in an hour" but the girl protests in the former, flirts with him in the
latter, and he says "Better make that two" and in the former I think he carries
it a bit further, something like that. Tickles me every time.

wei hao
Wei Hao Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Where would we be without the ability to let our minds wander? And where could
 we go if our emotions were submerged down under our souls? Their master
 control plan will fail as the young minds prevail in pure genetic wisom."
From: TOM@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
Subject: Re: Movie Chronology
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:09:51 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Please do join the group Miss Jane!  As Bond would say "A little female
companionship is always welcome." and I'm sure Miss Moneypenny would also
be pleased!
                                       -tom
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Friday, 22 Jan 1993 14:03:04 PST
From: <TOM@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
Subject: Re: Favorite Bond Quote

(Diamonds are Forever)  Plenty O'Tool played by Lana Wood, Natalie's kid
sister: "I'm Plenty"  BOND: "I bet you are."  and then the scene there after;
when she was thrown from a balconey into a swimming pool.  BOND: "Nice shot",
HOOD that threw her in:  "I didn't know it was there!"

ODDJOB in Goldfinger after taking out Jill Matherson out with his famous
knife edge frisbie hat.  BOND:  "ODDJOBs' a gentlemen, He takes his hat off
for ladies!"
                                           -tom
From: moeding@harpo.groucho (Stefan Moeding)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
Subject: Re: A question
Date: 27 Jan 93 06:23:07
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In-reply-to: jca@hpbabybnr.ca's message of 26 Jan 93 17:47:06 GMT



In article <1993Jan26.174706.1181@brtph560.bnr.ca> jca@hpbabybnr.ca (Jim C. Austin) writes:

>   Does anyone out there know what DANJAQ S.A. means or stands for?  It
>   seems that all the movies have this as the copyright.  Is there some
>   place in South America I'm not familiar with?

DANJAQ is the company behind the movies. Broccoli and Salzman simply
took their wives first names (Danielle & Jaqueline) to form the name.



Stefan


 Stefan Moeding                         moeding@informatik.uni-kl.de
 University of Kaiserslautern           /**************************/
 Germany                               100000 Lemmings can't be wrong
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From: amadeus@expert.cc.purdue.edu (unknown)
Subject: Octopussy title soundtrack
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:35:32 GMT

Does anybody know who sings the title song in "Octopussy" ?

BTW, i think it's time that we had a best title song contest.