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From: Bradley West <brad@aero.org>
Subject: NCSA Telnet 2.5 FTP problem
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1b2
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:07:38 GMT

Something strange about Telnet 2.5 vs Telnet 2.4b11; some FTP commands
don't work if I originate an FTP session on my Mac.  I installed v2.5 and
am using the config.tel file that came with the new version.  Here is
what I get when I do an 'ls':

ls
200 PORT command successful.
425 Can't build data connection: Connection refused.

and that's it.  If I want to transfer all the files in the directory, I
get the same message:

mget *
200 PORT command successful.
425 Can't build data connection: Connection refused.

Switching back to v2.4b11 makes all FTP work like normal.  But, what's
wrong with v2.5?  Anything?  Is it just me or are there others with
similar experiences?  What does v2.4 do that v2.5 does differently?
I know that most times with the "mget *" command, Telnet would drop the
last letter of the last file in the list, making a manual transfer
necessary.  Are these two problems in the two versions related?

-brad


Brad West                 "They say the secret of success is being
brad@aero.org             at the right place at the right time.
bwest@nunki.usc.edu       But since you never know when the right
                          TIME is going to be, I figure the trick
                          is to find the right PLACE and just hang
                          around!"  -  Calvin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: newbery@rata.vuw.ac.nz (Michael Newbery)
Subject: Re: untangling "x-uuencode-apple-single"
Organization: Computing Serv. Ctr, Victoria Uni., Wellington, New Zealand
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 05:16:00 GMT

In article <01050131.9n90p5@mariposa.stonecutter.com> sawtelle@stonecutter.com writes:
>I received a note today via uucp that originated in a QuickMail account.
>Somewhere along the way--at the sender's QuickMail/X.400 gateway, I
>suppose--a large file they had "enclosed" with the note was mangled
>into ascii and appended to the body of their message.
>
>The message now begins with the line:
>
>Content-Type: x-uuencode-apple-single

[stuff deleted]

>Would someone that has experience with unmangling QuickMail-encoded
>files, or knows of a utility (and source thereof) that will convert
>apple-single files back to regular mac format, help me out? I'd really
>appreciate it.

I'm posting a response to this, since I had to look long and hard to find
the answer myself.

Enclosures on AppleLink, and I guess, QuickMail, are uuencoded AppleSingle
files. AppleLink packages are compressed as well.

You need to:

* uudecode this (on your host or on your Mac)

* convert from AppleSingle format

* Uncompress.


There are various routines to do most of these, except for the conversion
from AppleSingle, which only a few programs will do. The GOOD news is that
there is ONE program, *free*, which will do the lot.

Get 'tickle' for the Macintosh from ftp.apple.com:pub/tickle/

This isn't all that tickle does, but it will do what you want.

Thank you Tim Endres.

--
Michael.Newbery@vuw.ac.nz
"We haven't the money, so we've got to think"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: edwards@andy.bgsu.edu (Bruce Edwards)
Subject: MAC BBS's -- Best ones are ????
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:27:48 GMT

I know this is probably part of an FAQ somewhere, but what are
currently considered to be the best MAC BBS's (should have a least
v.32bis)

Some phone #'s and brief description of your experience with the
boards would be appreciated.  Thanks.

edwards@andy.bgsu.edu

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From: pete@medea.rice.edu (Louis Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: NCSA-Telnet 2.5
Date: 25 Jul 92 17:22:10 GMT
Organization: Whatsamatta U

In article <Bry16y.3ss@kato.BELL-ATL.COM> b1y1m39@kato.BELL-ATL.COM (Bob Esposito) writes:

	   I have noticed a strange problem with 2.5 when I use SLIP.
	   After opening a connection using SLIP (Command-S), I get
	   the expected open window and can communicate with my
	   modem.

	   BUT, the Sessions menu is always dim and I cannot switch
	   to SLIP (Command-L).  Has anyone else noticed this?
	   I have a II-FX using MacTCP 1.1


Yes. I saw this too, and I seem to remember somebody from NFS saying that
this was an oversight. So, I went and got 2.5 source from ncsa, commented
out every line that disables an entire menu, and compiled it. First thing I
noticed was that the resulting binary was ~100k less than the precompled
binary. Ignoring that, I ran it, logged onto my remote host, typed slip,
entered the returned ip address into the serial communications dialog, and
selected "Switch to Slip". Just like the docs said, my initial window went
away and I was presented with an "Open Connection" dialog. I entered the ip
address of my desired host as "session name" and 'pete' as "window name",
the dialog went away, but the new session never popped up on my screen.

I tried a few other hosts whose IP addresses I happened to know, after 15
minutes I gave up on any of them ever completing. 

Could this be a site-specific problem? I am sure that I got the addresses
correct, I don't know what else could be causing the problem.

pete

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=============================================================================
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Robert.Lund@f204.n2603.z1.ieee.org (Robert Lund)
Subject: MIDI: How program Mac SE SCC to 31250 baud ?
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2603/204 - Not Even Odd, Forest Hills NY
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:47:00 GMT

BV> So I guess that:
BV> * I have to program the SCC to use an external clock for the
BV> baud rate generator. Such an external clock -I suppose- is
BV> available in the Apple MIDI interface (the '1MHz'). I guess it's
BV> on pin 2 (HSKi)?
BV> * I need to use the TRxC pin as input for the transmit and
BV> receive clock (?).
    You do have to program the SCC to use an external clock - but 
not for the
baudrate generator. I've looked over Chapter 20 of 
Apple's "Macintosh Family
Hardware Reference" and Zilog's 
documentation for the Z8530 SCC chip, and
come up with the following:
   You must determine where the clock is being fed for sure. It 
could be
feeding either pin 2 (HSKi), which feeds the SCC's TRxC, or 
pin 7 (GPi),
which goes to RTxC (on port A ONLY). Various docs I 
have on MIDI interfaces
show the external 1-MHz clock going to HSKi, 
pin 2. This is the most likely
input, since it exists on both ports, 
and on all models of Mac (early Macs
had no GPi input), and I'll 
assume your interface feeds HSKi/Pin 2/TRxC.
    You have a 1-MHz signal available to you, which is exactly 32 
times the
desired 31250 Hz data rate, so there is no need to use the 
baud rate
generator. This 1-MHz signal can be used as the 
Transmit/Receive clock
source, and the SCC can be put in "32x-clock" 
mode using WR4. Your WR11 clock
select bit pairs, D6-D5 and D4-D3 
should select the TRxC signal for the Rx
and Tx clocks, and bit D2 
is set to 0 so the TRxC pin is an input; then D1-D0
are "don't care" 
bits. WR11 bit 7, XTAL/NoXTAL, tells the chip whether or not
to 
insert a "high-gain amplifier between the RTxC and SYNC pins in
expectation of a quartz crystal being placed across the pins." "If 
this bit
is set to 0, the SCC expects a TTL-compatible signal as an 
input to [the RTxC
pin." [Zilog docs]. It looks like you might as 
well set bit D7 to 0, although
it doesn't matter.
To summarize:
    WR11 Bit    Value   Function
        7        (0)    TTL RTxC input (don't care)
       6,5       0,1    Rx clock = Baud Rate Generator output
       4,3       0,1    Tx clock = Baud Rate Generator output
        2         0     TRxC pin is an input
       1,0      (0,0)   Don't care - TRxC output select
...
    WR4 Bit     Value   Function
       7,6       1,0    32x clock mode => data clk=1MHz/32=31250
There's no need to program WR12 & 13 since the baud rate generator 
isn't used
in this configuration. And VIA1 bit3 selects the GPi for 
the RTxC input
instead of the 3.672 MHz clock - but you're not using 
this, so VIA1 Bit3
doesn't matter.
    I haven't actually used such a MIDI interface, but this is my
interpretation of the documentation, and I have programmed chips 
like the
Z8530 SCC extensively. So, I could be wrong, but I think my 
suggestions are
worth a try!
    Good Luck.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Fetch won't fetch.
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:28:17 GMT

Eiji> == Eiji Hirai <hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu> 

 Eiji> Sometimes, remote networks are unreachable or remote nodes are
 Eiji> down.  Every time I've encountered this symptom in 2.1b4, I tried
 Eiji> to ping (20 times) the remote machine from my nearby Unix node
 Eiji> and I got no response.

I had this problem in a kind of bizarre fashion; I tried to connect to a
machine (I think sumex, actually) and it hung "connecting".  Then I
tried it from one of my telnet windows, and suddenly that "broke the
logjam" and the Fetch connection connected.

I haven't been able to duplicate it so I can give the author a real bug
report :(

This is using VersaTerm SLIP, MacTCP 1.1, Fetch 2.1b4.
--
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   ``The First Amendment is often inconvenient.  But that is besides the
  point.  Inconvenience does not absolve the government of its obligation
         to tolerate speech.'' --Justice Anthony Kennedy, in 91-155
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: bpb9204@tamsun.tamu.edu (Brent)
Subject: FAQ?? and ZMODEM tool (CTB)
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Texas A&M Univ., Inc.
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:21:01 GMT


I searched through 400 or so messages in comp.sys.mac.comm this morning,
looking for 2 items:
  1) An FAQ of some sort
  2) Anything dealing with ZMODEM Transfer tools.

My question is simple, and I assume it has been asked many times before, but
I could not find anything dealing with it within about the last 3 weeks of
articles.

Anyway, is there a ZMODEM tool freely available?  If so, where is it?
If not, is anybody writing one?  Do you know when it might be available?

As an aside, I just downloaded Tim Endre's "Termy" program (CTB-based).
He has done a good job on it, and the designers at Apple have done a good
job on the CTB.  In fact, I'm using it now (on my plus) and it works fine.

Any pointers to the above questions would be fine.

-Brent
-- 
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|Brent P. Burton, N5VMG   |  And rouses Fancy on her wakeful bed;
|bpb9204@tamsun.tamu.edu  |  From realms of viewless spirits tears the veil,
+-------------------------+  And there reveals the unutterable tale. - M. Lewis
From: paul@ace.acadiau.ca (Paul Steele)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: NCSA Telnet 2.5 and bootp support
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:07:55 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Acadia University

Is there anyway to get the (non mactcp) NCSA Telnet 2.5 to use bootp.  We
have a centralized bootp server for distributing IP numbers but NCSA only
uses RARP.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

___
Paul Steele, Network Services Manager              902-542-2201x660
Acadia University, Computer Centre            FAX: 902-542-4364
Wolfville, Nova Scotia, Canada, B0P 1X0  Internet: Paul@ace.acadiau.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: mike@uunet!tellab5!odgate (Mike J. Kelly)
Subject: Re: Remote Access incompatibilities
Organization: Odesta Corporation
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:16:54 GMT

kerman@hkkk.fi (Jouni Kerman) writes:


>I tried RA with 7.0.0 - no way.
>Then I installed 7.0.1 - way!

>Try updating your system to 7.0.1 and then install Remote Access.
>It should work!

>Jouni

Yeah, I found that installing the tuneup *removes* the resources that
ARA adds to Users and Groups to allow you to set up remote access
permissions.  So it appears that Remote Access must be installed again
whenever you update your system (ugh..can this be right??).  Even more
frightening is that the remote access installation asks if you want to
replace the *newer* Users and Groups with the old stuff from the Remote
Access disks -- and you have to say yes!

I could understand this if ARA wasn't an Apple product.  What's the story?
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: chammack@nyx.cs.du.edu (chris hammack)
Subject: Mac bbs's and Mac-Telnet Programs
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 22:06:48 GMT


1.   What are some other bbs's other than hermes  (shareware preferred)
and if you have a bbs that you can edit (menu's) ect.  that you have
programmed could you please notify me.
 
2.   Is there/what program that allows someone to telnet into your mac
from the internet.
 
All answers should be sent to chammack@nyx.cs.du.edu 'cause i might not be
around to read this.
From: burchil@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Charles Andrew Burchill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: New version of Hytelnet for the Mac (v 6.2)
Summary: New version of Hytelnet for the Mac (v6.2)
Keywords: telnet hytelnet internet CWIS WAIS Library
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:11:08 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada


Notice of Upgrade to Hytelnet for the Macintosh.  version 6.2.0
 
This version will (should) work over a network, and will be able to use
the IBM PC data files.  The numbering system and directory structure are the
same as the PC version.
 
If you want a copy of this version of Hytelnet please send a note to
Charles Burchill <burchil@ccu.umanitoba.ca>.
 
The complete set comes as a 560K binhex file so make sure that your
mail package will support mail of this size. It may be available from
access.usask.ca in the near future.
 
Hytelnet comes as a binhex'd self extracting archive: Hytelnet for the
Mac.  You will need about 1.2Mb free hard disk space, HyperCard 2.x.
The archive contains Hytelnet, a hypercard stack that reads the raw
data files from Peter Scotts Hytelnet.  It also contains a 'Hytelnet
data' folder containing many folders with the Hytelnet data files (700+).
 
Binhex'd files may be unarchived using binhex 4.0, Stuffit, Compactor Pro,
Tickler and many other common archiving programs.
 
version 6.2.0 - Many new and updated files, numbering scheme is now the same
as Peter Scott's.  Third digit will be used to represent minor updates
in the Macintosh version.
 
                   HYTELNET...... Program Description
 
HYTELNET is a utility that is designed to assist you in reaching all of the
INTERNET-accessible libraries, Freenets, CWISs,Library BBSs, & other
information sites by Telnet.  It is available for IBM PC, Unix, VMS and 
Macintosh computers.
-- 
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University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: harry@DIALix.oz.au (Harry Werkman)
Subject: NewsReaders
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 01:38:10 GMT
Summary: What is required for a Mac Newsreader.
Keywords: News Readers Software

I have a Mac , a MODEM and a UNIX account. What software can I use that will allow me to 1. Connect to a UNIX host, 2. Read a reply to Usenet areas such as comp.sys.mac.comm and allow a offline facility to download areas to my Mac, read the messages and upload replies to a UNIX host. Could someone please tell me where this software is located in Australia ?
Thank you.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley)
Subject: Re: dovefax+ software missing
Organization: Alfalfa Software, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 05:23:30 GMT

ech5w@milton.u.washington.edu (E Chris Holman) writes:
: really appreciate it. I tried to contact Dove's technical Support but 
: couldn't get through. I can mail a photocopy of the manual to prove that I do
They've gone Chapter 11, I haven't gotten through recently either 
(not that I had a lot of luck *before* they did Chapter 11).
-- 
						nazgul@alfalfa.com

I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: JZHOU@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Requesting Cabletron and Retix information
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 20:41:49 EDT

Any netters know the phone numbers of Cabletron and Retix (vendors of
Ethernet bridges)? Also, are there any other vendors?
 
Please email me. Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.protocols.appletalk
From: kdb@intercon.com (Kurt D Baumann)
Subject: Re: Slip?? any PD/shareware programs that do it?
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 21:33:02 GMT
Reply-To: kdb@intercon.com (Kurt D Baumann)
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation

In article <1992Jul24.134739.20698@ecst.csuchico.edu>, 
rgoldstone@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (Robin, Girl Wonder) writes:
> In article <2A6E3674.B90@intercon.com>, kdb@intercon.com (Kurt D Baumann) 
writes:
> >In article <1992Jul21.033546.2151@umbc3.umbc.edu>, grabenst@umbc4.umbc.edu 
> >(Mr. Michael Grabenstein; ACS (GUEST)) writes:
> >> 
> >> 	I am looking for a program taht will make a SLIP connection.
> >> Be great if it would let me login and use x-windows via my modem.
> >> what is the extense and use of Fetch? and the NCSA telnet program?
> >> 
> >
> >There are currently no PD packages that work with MacTCP to do what you 
want.  
> 
> NCSA Telnet 2.5 supports SLIP.  Indeed it does not use MacTCP but that
> was not specified by the original poster.  From the NCSA Telnet 2.5
> README file:

If you read his request it mentions that he would like to run X-Windows over 
it.  Unless someone has added X-Windows to NCSA Telnet, he is going to need a 
SLIP that works with MacTCP.  Hence my response.  There are no PD packages 
that I am aware of that do SLIP with MacTCP.  And indeed it was specified by 
the ONW.


Kurt Baumann                  Creators of fine TCP/IP Products
InterCon Systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: tlod_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Thede "Bo" Loder)
Subject: binhex 4.0 vs 5.0
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 22:39:35 GMT

What's the difference between binhex 4.0 and 5.0 binhex files?  I know
that 4.0 is the standard, but I'm curious.  Is 5.0 more buggy?  Are they
actually different encodings, or is 5.0 simply the next program version above
Binhex 4.0?  
				-Thede
				<tlod_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
From: gustilo@pop-server.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Net etiquette
Date: 29 Jul 92 03:15:19 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Jul28.181124.10287@oracle.us.oracle.com>, cmi@oracle.uucp
(Eileen Riley) wrote:
> 
> 
> Being new to the net, is there somplace I can get a summary of the "who, what, where, why and *how*" errata?
> 
> Specifically, where and how can I get a listing of the various news groups,

check out the news.announce.newusers, news.answers and
news.newusers,questions

>stuff deleted

Standard Disclaimer:
  I am not responsible for comments that I make after 3:00 AM or after five
cups of coffee, whichever comes first.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: johnsone@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Erik A. Johnson)
Subject: Any problems with NCSA/BYU Telnet 2.5 ftp client?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:53:36 GMT

Can't get the ftp client to work properly in v2.5 of NCSA/BYU Telnet.
I can connect, the remote host (which I CAN telnet into) accepts user
and password, will let me do 'pwd' and 'cd', but no data transmission
(put, get, ls).  Any thoughts?

Thanks.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: mulligan@decwrl.dec.com (Geoff Mulligan)
Subject: phonetalk to ethernet
Organization: DEC Network Systems Lab
Distribution: comp
Date: 22 Jul 92 11:04:20

I am interested in connecting a couple of macs that are interconnected
via phonetalk/localtalk to a Unix box that has an ethernet connection.

What are my options?  I don't want to put ethernet cards in my macs
and I don't necessarily want to convert appletalk to tcp/ip via a
gatorbox.  I would just like to "bridge" appletalk from the phonetalk
to the ethernet.

	Thanks,
		geoff
From: seaney@robios.me.wisc.edu (Steve Seaney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Apple router problems
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:32:20 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: U. Wisconsin-Madison, Robotics Laboratory

We are using a IIci running 7.0.1 as a router between our IP network
and a short run of appletalk phonenet. The router is using the Apple
Routing software and a cabletron twisted-pair eithernet card.

Periodically the router is 'locking up'.  Upon reboot the machines
complains that part of the eithernet driver software is missing so
that the router can not be started.  If the machine is disconnected
from the power for a second (pull the plug) the machine reboots fine
(no complaints).

I'm at a loss as to what could be causing the lock-up and the strange
reboot behaviour.  Has anyone seen this behavior or have any ideas
what could be causing it?

Thanks a lot!
Steve
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.protocols.kerberos