HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Violence against women....
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:45:18 GMT
Reply-To: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Organization: Horizon Research


=> In article <3969@fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov> masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov
=>    (Michiaki Masuda) writes:
=> 
=>=}    I'd interpret Mr. Lambert's example in a different way.
=>=}
=>=}    If Mike Tyson had invited that Japanese woman to his room, she
would not
=>=}have accepted. Therefore, no rape. She might have accepted if she
had agreed
=>=}to have, uh, an intimate relationship with him. That would be a consensual
=>=}relationship. Therefore, no rape. Hence, no rape in Japan vs. one rape in
=>=}the US.

In article <HARKCOM.92Sep28095311@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp>,
harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom) writes:
=>    But if one looks at the current situation, attitudes and practices in
=> Japanese society then one would see that the chances of a Japanese Mike
=> Tyson raping a young woman "are about the same"/"are not as great" as in
=> the US, but the chances of that woman reporting the rape aproach zero.
=> The chances that the woman would take the cur to court over it get even
=> closer to zero.  And the chances of her actually winning the case are
=> zero.
=> 
=>    This is what this thread was initially about.  The situations behind
=> the statistics are so vastly different that one could not make a useful
=> comparison in this area (regardless of ones biases as to the morals
=> of either nation)...

Nah.... this thread was initially about the existence of Rapeman meaning
that Japanese men get sex only through comics, and that their legs are too
short to catch the females, who are not only cute, but can run like the
dickens from working out with Tom Selleck in the bathtubs at So-ppurando
while earning money for abortions that they had to have because they were
date raped by horney Japanese bizunesumen with AIDS returning from
Thailand, who were actually the people who answered the meaningless poll
for high school students who were not available to answer the poll 
because they were at jukku memorizing meaningless statistics that are
biased for the purpose of misjudging Japan as non-racist against white
baseball players who bathe in coed groups. 

Just to set the record straight.

- Bill Lambert
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp (Daisaku Itasaka)
Subject: Re: Question on Dates?
Organization: NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd., Tokyo, Japan
Distribution: world 
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:39:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.203606.21976@u.washington.edu>
	tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu writes:

>>Could someone please tell me the exact date that
>>Hirohito died, or more specifically, the last date
>>of the Showa era and the first date of the Heisei
>>era?
>
>My recollection, which will be corrected if wrong, is that Jan.6, 1989
>was the last day of Showa and Jan.7 was the first day of Heisei. I
>remember this because:
>
>#1 I thought it was weird that Showa 64 was less than a week long.
>#2 I bought a train ticket on the morning of the 7th that said
>   64-01-07, a date that never really existed.

I think that the last date of Shouwa is 7th and the first date of
Heisei is 8th. So it is true that the date 64-01-07 really existed.

I remember the 7th was Saturday. The emperor died in that morning.
I heard about that in the morning news show on TV. In that afternoon
the government announced that we'd call our new era "Heisei".

-- 
A wrong guy in a wrong place at wrong time...
						 Daisaku Itasaka
				      d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp
				NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: patric@iat.holonet.net (PATRICK)
Subject: Re: Kinokunia Book-store
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 06:11:17 GMT

KINOKUNIYA bookstore in L.A.

123 Onizuka Street #205
Los Angeles,CA  90012-3815
213-687-4480
213-687-4566 FAX

I haven't been there--but from what I have read--I believe it is in the
"Little Tokyo" area near downtown. 

Good Luck!  Patrick In San Francisco.
From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: girl that dies in school gate
Date: 5 Oct 92 03:35:47 GMT
	<0elex2e00aw3ANUld5@andrew.cmu.edu>
	<HARKCOM.92Sep30131810@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp>
	<1afeusINN5lm@agate.berkeley.edu>
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan
In-reply-to: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu's message of 1 Oct 92 18:10:36 GMT

In article <1afeusINN5lm@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu
   (Henry Robertson) writes:

 =}Speaking of devil teachers, is devil worship in fashion in Japan?

   It appears so.  Lovecraft's Cthullu mythos even has quite a following.
(Finally I have friends that I can really talk to :) [just kidding]
From: rehir@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Hirokatsu Watanabe 432-2275)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: 'Sushi' boy (follow up)
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:42:00 GMT
Organization: Harvard Medical School


   Hello, Folks
   Previouly, somobody sent the article about the trouble caused by
the import of the frozen 'Sushi' from USA by 'Sushi' boy. It came to an
end on Oct. 2. 

   According 'Mainichi' newspaper, the permanent vice minister Ozaki
in the Minister of Finance announced on Oct. 2, 'If the material of Sushi
is 20% of the Sushi, the Sushi is not the product of grain, but the product
of fish, we will treat it according to the law.' This means to accept the
import of the frozen 'Sushi'.

   By the way, I heard that 'Sushi' boy is planning to import the frozen
meet bowl (Gyu^don) now.

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*      Hirokatsu Watanabe      *
*------------------------------*
* Mo^karimakka?  Sapparidesuwa *
*        Maido Ookini          *
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From: shisei@hatori.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Shisei FUJIWARA)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: What is this music?
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:35:11 GMT
Organization: Hatori-Aizawa Lab, Dept of Electronic Information Engineering,
	Faculty of Engineering, Univ of Tokyo, Japan

Hi, folks inside and outside of Japan.

In article <1992Sep26.182602.17957@news.acns.nwu.edu> qcg@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Qing Guo) writes:

   Hello, everyone.

   I stayed in Kyoto 5 years ago. There was a FM radio program called 'Jet stream' which was aired from midnight everyday. In the beginning of the program, a narrator named 'Jou Tatuya' says 'I am your pilot' or something like that. As he is speaking, there is a background music. I would like to know what that music is. If you know, please give me the information so I can buy the CD here in Chicago where I currently live in. 

The program must be "JAL Jet stream."
So, I think you'd be better to ask for 
the nearest JAL(Japan Air Lines) branch (^.^)

   By the way, is the program still continuing now?

As far as I know, it ended many years ago.


I'm sorry for my poor English.

--
Shisei FUJIWARA
      shisei@hatori.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp
From: sfm@math.ufl.edu (Santa for Me)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: girl that dies in school gate
Date: 28 Sep 92 12:43:30 GMT
Organization: University of Florida Department of Mathematics

In article <1992Sep26.212655.7100@iscsvax.uni.edu>, wilson0189@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>>         I am looking for some information about a story in mid to late 1989 or
>> early to mid 1990. Appartently a young middle school girl was late for class in
>> Kobe one day. The gate was closing to the school enterance, and the girl tried
>> to rush through, but didn't make it.
>>         I have a friend that is looking for information on this story for an
>> article. Any info on time, names, places to look would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>>         Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Dean C. Wilson
>> University of Northern Iowa     wilson0189@iscsvax.uni.edu
>> University of Iowa              dean-wilson@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu 



	I was in Japan at the time of the incident and
if memory serves, the gate was closing at the hands of a teacher
who was attempting to keep the student from entering school due
to tardiness.  An investigation ensued, though the final outcome
i am as of yet unaware.

servio
From: jhuang@futon.SFSU.EDU (Jason C. Huang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: ASCII picture request
Date: 2 Oct 1992 12:54:19 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

                              
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# if you have these kind of pictures, please send me a copy. Thankx

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From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk (R Clement)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Mr. Baseball (Again!)
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:24:30 GMT
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
Originator: ross-c@csparc13

In article <1992Oct1.224540.4992@u.washington.edu> tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu writes:
>
>Would any other 4N men or women living in Japan care to support me in
>this? Do Japanese children sometimes hide behind their mothers when

Once that I remember. A Japanese child once called out "Gaijin-san" across a
pedestrian crossing. I called back "Hora! Nihonjin da!". The child did hide
behind his mother's skirt but they were both laughing.

>you approach? Have you ever seen any really scared by you (to the
>point of crying)?  

No.

>		   Have you seen adults really scared by you? If so
>was it pretty obvious that it was because you were 4N?

No. And I lived in a country area. Usually the opposite was true. One
incident I remember was when I was out with a Japanese lady friend. Two
youngsters we had been talking to (in fact our rowboat had been invaded
by them) asked if they could come along with us to a zoo we were going to.
My friend gave them a lecture on "stranger danger" instead.

>Please remember, I never held it against any of these kids (I held it
>against the adults though); a couple of them seemed really distressed
>by my presence. But I wouldn't want anyone thinking that Tom Selleck

I never noticed this sort of thing. Were you living in city or country?
I'm not trying to say it didn't happen, just that I didn't see it happening
with me (or don't remember it).

>or anyone else telling such a story is lying when, in fact, they
>probably aren't. (If he was he must have consulted with people to whom
>it's happened because he described it pretty accurately.) As a
>standard disclaimer I'll admit that more kids could've cared less, but
>the numbers that exhibited strange (to me) behavior were significant.

>-- Tad Perry   Internet:    tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
>               CompuServe:  70402,3020
>               NIFTY-Serve: GBG01266

Um. Do you think you could describe yourself physically? It may have been
something about your (and Tom Selleck's) appearance that caused this to 
happen to you. Facial hair? (I *had* none). Fairly thick set? (I'm moderately
thin).

Cheers,

Ross-c
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: alt.fan.chaki.chaki.chaki
Date: 5 Oct 1992 19:39:33 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

For those of you idol-otaku out there, there is a newsgroup dedicated to
chaki.chaki.chaki.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: girl that dies in school gate
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 16:57:52 GMT

In article <BvExI4.EqD@jrd.dec.com> doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.160107.3801@island.COM>, fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
 
># Not a flame, but this points out a HUGE difference in the outlook of the
># "typical" Japanese and "typical" American in handling student discipline
># problems.

>Yes.  That the Japanese are too lenient.
>I grew up in the US (suburbs of Chicago), so I only know how discipline
>is handled in Japan from TV, newspapers, etc.

Well, I'll disagree. I think the sort of behavior a Japanese teacher will not
tolerate is FAR less disruptive than an American teacher would even notice.

># I was in Japan when the incident happened, and I remember the
># papers running articles on that and other incidents where teachers used
># extreme methods to "correct" bad behavior. One incident in particular; in
># Kyushu (sorry, don't remember the exact city) 4 unruly boys were taken to
># the nearby beach by a group of teachers and buried up to their necks near
># the middle of the low-high tide mark! Tide started coming in, the boys got
># several mouthfuls of saltwater and were then dug up by the teachers. At the
># equivalent of the PTA meeting to discuss the situation, the parents of 3 of
># the boys got up and formally thanked the teachers for taking such an interest
># in the boys' behavior, and apologized for the offending behavior. The parents
># of the 4th boy wondered if this may have been too severe, and asked that the
># teachers take care that no harm come to any such student next time.

>If these boys went to school in the US, they probably would have been in
>jail, or would have been kicked out of school.  Also this is probably an
>extreme case.  I have heard other cases where the teachers shaved the
>student's heads, etc.

Uh, it is doubtful that the BOYS would have been in jail; the teachers would
almost certainly be facing a major lawsuit, at LEAST. By 'unruly" I do not 
mean the boys were raping, pillaging, and plundering. Most likely, they were 
talking in class or smoking on school grounds (or perhaps committed the un-
pardonable sin of talking back to the teacher).

>But the problem is that in Japan, people don't care about "rules".
>Students break rules all the time because they know they aren't
>going to get punished, unless they go way over the line.
>The parents also should discipline their kids.  Lot of Japanese parents
>now NEVER hit their kids...

Well, I think most of us in this bbd feel that the Japanese have (in general)
FAR more respect for "the rules" whatever they may be than any self-respecting 
American would admit to.

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - I'm only doing what the little voices tell me to do. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: heffner@Turing.ORG (Charles A. Heffner)
Subject: Moving to Japan/FAQ?
Followup-To: poster 
Summary: What to expect if I move to Tokyo?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:36:51 GMT


Hi!

I am posting this news item for a friend who is possibly going to get 
transfered to Tokyo. Any/All mail will be forwared to him.

I quote....

I am possibly going to be transfered to Tokyo in the next 6 months and
would basically like to know what to expect in terms of expenses (I have
heard horror stories and would like to hear some personal experiences.),
language barriers (I dont know Japanese, but I am a very quick learner),
income (I would typically make around $55K here in the US in California),
and taxes.

Basically ... any information would help! Also .. any tips on what I should
expect from Japanese Immigration (I am from India) and have been given
an impression that I might be given a hard time.

Other than finding myself some Japanese friends here ... what would be a 
good way to start learning some basic conversational Japanese? Berlitz?

End quote....

Charles
From: lindaa@info.Berkeley.EDU (Linda Absher)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Politics (was Re: Mr. Baseball (Again!))
Date: 7 Oct 1992 03:45:24 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: info.berkeley.edu

Just to set the record straight:

In an interview with Arsenio Hall, Mr. Selleck announced he was a 
"conservative independent".

Still told the same story about Japan, though...
-- 
   $  Linda Absher		$ "Jane! Get me off of this               $ 
   $  lindaa@info.Berkeley.EDU	$      crazy thing!!!"                    $
   $				$    -George Jetson, "The Jetsons"        $
From: wilson0189@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: girl that dies in school gate
Date: 26 Sep 92 21:26:55 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

        I am looking for some information about a story in mid to late 1989 or
early to mid 1990. Appartently a young middle school girl was late for class in
Kobe one day. The gate was closing to the school enterance, and the girl tried
to rush through, but didn't make it.
        I have a friend that is looking for information on this story for an
article. Any info on time, names, places to look would be greatly appreciated.

        Thanks in advance.

Dean C. Wilson
University of Northern Iowa     wilson0189@iscsvax.uni.edu
University of Iowa              dean-wilson@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: Violence against women....
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 09:10:03 GMT

masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:

>In article <HARKCOM.92Sep28095311@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp> harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom) writes:

>>   But if one looks at the current situation, attitudes and practices in
>>Japanese society then one would see that the chances of a Japanese Mike
>>Tyson raping a young woman "are about the same"/"are not as great" as in
>>the US, but the chances of that woman reporting the rape aproach zero.
>>The chances that the woman would take the cur to court over it get even
>>closer to zero.  And the chances of her actually winning the case are
>>zero.

>   If this is true, a non-Japanese Mike Tyson would be encouraged to come to 
>Japan. (Tyson is not Japanese, anyway 8-).)

(much deleted)


...doesn't kowa gaijin $BX530?M(J  refer to exactly that kind of 
person. Doesn't the existance the phrase add weight to the arguments
even in the absence of quantifying data?


Charlie

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tcarlson@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.a.carlson)
Subject: nihongo sw
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:37:53 GMT

I'm looking for some recommendations on MS-DOS-based instructional
SW for learning Japanese.  I  have the program KanjiMaster which
I think is great - what I'm looking for now is SW dealing with
vocabulary, grammar, etc. i.e. focusing more on the language
itself rather than Kanji.  Any info would be appreciated.

Since I don't get a chance to read the net as much as I'd like,
if you could please reply to me directly.

Thanks,

Tim Carlson
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: bbs.lar@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Larry Greenfield)
Subject: Mr. Baseball Movie
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 04:36:37 GMT

Well, I seem to have seen some debate over this movie a few weeks ago. 
But my BBS was down for 2 weeks. Did anyone see this movie?  It premiered 
in the US today.  I wonder when the Japanese premiere will be.  
  I won't put in much spoilers. I'll just say that it was both good and 
bad.  Probably bad in the overall story idea (typical, expected, somewhat 
stereotypical), good in the small details, small jokes, and performances. 
Ken Takakura is always good, and Tom Selleck was not bad either (though 
he couldn't speak Japanese for his life. Even Richard Gere did a better 
job).  Fred Schipisi (sp?) directed "Roxanne" (1986, w/Steve Martin), one 
of my favorite movies, so that was another reason for me to go see Mr 
Baseball (I see he used Ian Baker again for cinematography).  And I must 
say that it did a better job of showing more typical Japan than other 
films (typical: a scene in a side street, in a house, etc rather than 
just in an office, althtough this didn7t happen to much).
  Just wondering if anyone else saw it.  Also, the girl in the movie 
(forget her name)... is she famous in Japan?  I didn't think she was all 
that good, though I suppose she was ok. 
:::::Larry:::::

--
Larry Greenfield (bbs.lar@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
From: miklg@acuson.com (Michael Goldman )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: The Northern Islands
Date: 26 Sep 92 14:44:51 GMT
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California

hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:

>In article <1992Sep23.140123.19041@acuson.com> miklg@acuson.com (Michael Goldman ) writes:

>>	Poor Japan, tricked into invading China, tricked into
>>	bombing Pearl Harbor, and now we find they were tricked
>>	into surrendering!

>Thus such slander is totally irrelevant.

	I apologize for misunderstanding your earlier points
	and imputing to you that which you did not say.
	Gratuitous sarcasm on my part which I regret.

	- Michael Goldman

-- 
"History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have
exhausted all other alternatives." - Abba Eban
	Disclaimer:  All views are solely my own & not the views of Acuson.
	<sun!sono!miklg>  or  [miklg@acuson.com]
From: rehir@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Hirokatsu Watanabe 432-2275)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Good Luck Letter
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:23:46 GMT
Organization: Harvard Medical School


 v999s3m2@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Chili O'Cima) writes:

>I have got a letter of "GOOD LUCK". This letter says that I will get
>something good if I send 20 copies of this letter to my friends within
>four days, and that if I do not, I'll be die in the several days. 
>Moreover, it mekes me to keep secret.

>Further, I guess some of you deal with such a GOOD LUCK letter. Then 
>I want to ask you what you did at that time. Will I really be happy if
>I follow the instructions? I got the letter 2 days ago, but nothing 
>good is happen! 

   Too bad! 
   I recommend you to make a paper doll from the letter, and hit a nail
into it, and burn it, and throw it into a river or a drain. The curse
will return back to the sender.   :-)

   By the way, is the letter "Good Luck" letter?  I remember that it
was popular in Japan over 25 years ago. And it has changed to the letter
of "Bad Luck" since 1970's. It said that the reciever will get something
wrong if he don't send 20 copies of the letter to somebody within 4 days.
   Yes. It became so stingy not to give "Good Luck".
   I wonder if the letter of "Good Luck" recently become popular again.

   Now, I calculated. If all recievers of the letter send 20 copies 
(assuming that all reciever get it only once), all people in Japan
recieve it in 7th turn, and all people in the world recieve it in
8th turn.   :-)

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*     Hirokatsu Watanabe       *
*------------------------------*
* Mo^karimakka?  Sapparidesuwa *
*        Maido Ookini          *
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