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From: wrs@wslack.UUCP (Bill Slack)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re:  counter-steering?
Distribution: world
Date: 15 Oct 92 08:01:34 EDT
Organization: W. R. Slack

bob pasker sez:
>counter steering only works if the bike is not a shaftie whose
>drive shaft turns in the opposite direction of the crankshaft,
>which is why it works on viragos but not on bmws.

Hey, bob, this is just flame bait, right?
>
>[i can't believe i'm getting involved in this again !!!!!!!!!]

Nor can I.

After 19 years I have to stop countersteering my /5. That's what I get for
reading r.m, I guess.

Bill
__
wrs@gozer.mv.com (Bill Slack) DoD #430
But her tears were shed in vain and her every word was lost
In the rumble of his engine and the smoke from his exhaust! Oo..o&o
    





    
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: crsg9887@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chad R. Sandstrom)
Subject: American Sportbike? YOU build one!
Summary: quit yer yammerin
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:48:41 GMT
Keywords: get off yer arse

A market demanding an American-made sportbike you say?
Big profits! you're sure of it!

quit yer yammerin and contribute to this capitalist system!

Specialized brewer's leavings gaseous fuel injection system.
Counter-intuitive, counter-rotating, counter-steering system.
Hyper turbulence hot air induced drag mitigation system.
Neo-rationalistic gravity lightening mechanisms.

Of course the product would have spectacular 0-60 times
Of course the packaging would be full of stellar intangibles
  so intangible, I can't describe them here, but boyeee...
It'll look and sound soo cool.

And I'm sure, true to the inspiration and harmony of r.m
the new bike would be both economical and universally loved

I am sure of it. So get to work.
I'll be off now for a ride on my Harley FLSTN.

--
Chad S.   (#1993 for those that care)
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Stealth Bra
Date: 16 Oct 92 05:28:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: stafford.Stafford-161092112514
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

A local sports care nut said that 'stealth bras', which
absorb radar are available for cars.  True?
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ignore  -  test
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:54:29 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 718508733@county.lmt.mn.org, clayb@county.lmt.mn.org (Clay Babcock) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.230106.16712@colorado.edu> laszlo@piper.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>>all bicyclist should stay off the road. its for motorcycles.
>>since we pay road taxes that they (bicyclist) aren't willing
>>to. also there should be helemet laws for bicyclists
>
>Don't pay taxes?  Wake up! Even if I didn't ride a MotorCycle,
>I pay over $20,000 a year in state and fed taxes. A LOT of that
>is going to roads and highways, so I'll ride my bicycle ANYWHERE
>I WHAT.  You and your college student taxes (plus bike tabs) couldn't
>pave 5 feet of highway.  Why don't YOU stay off the road.

1. Laszlo ain't no student, he's a six-figure sysadmin.
2. Motorcyclists pay to register and license their vehicles.
  Bicyclists don't.  You can brag about your salary all you want, you
  can't change that fact.
3. "Anywhere you want?"  Try the freeway.  Go ahead.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: asper@sbctri.sbc.com (Alan E. Asper)
Subject: Re: If you could pick only 5 bikes...
Organization: Southwestern Bell Technology Resources, St.Louis, MO
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 13:32:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.115935.19629@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> groh@nu.cs.fsu.edu writes:
>     1. HD Softtail Springer
>     2. HD FatBoy
>     3. Ariel Square Four
>     4. Vincent Black Shadow
>     5. Brougham Superior
         ^^^^^^^^

Is this anything like a BROUGH Superior?
:^)

Alan
From: osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: The Dead Battery Problem
Date: 13 Oct 1992 09:17:45 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Oct12.123316.19822@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson) writes:
>If you don't ride long enough to "recharge" the battery
>on a daily basis you might want to look into one of those
>"solar" chargers that they sell for cars, it plugs into
>a cig liter but could be modified to plug into the battrey
>with a connector.

Three Questions:

1.  Does it shut itself off to prevent overcharging?

2.  How large is it?

3.  How can I get one and for how much?

-
-John H. Osborn
-osborn@cs.utexas.edu
-DOD# 2001  '92 BMW Paris-Dakar
-Queer and Proud
From: mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: rec.moto.tech
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:47:50 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia


I think rec.moto.tech is a good idea.  Rec.moto used to be a place
to ask tech questions, but recently rec.moto has become mostly
noise.


--
      Michael L. Johnson
      mlj8e@virginia.edu
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley Outperforms ZX11, Film at Eleven
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:58:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: elektro.1992Oct14.015830.9581
Organization: Why do you suspect that?

In article <1992Oct13.142257.16337@husc3.harvard.edu> zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:
>In article <1992Oct11.231505.28430@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
>car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Oct10.141032.16234@husc3.harvard.edu>,
>>zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:
>
>>>In article <1992Oct10.060211.22370@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
>>>car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers) writes:
>


SInce when it there merit or goodness in a 250 line flamefest ??
What's worse, I couldn't even find any educational or funny parts ...


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff
            {  Friends don't let friends suffer through this  }
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Test (ignore)
Date: 16 Oct 92 05:31:39 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <1992Oct15.204313.871@doo.doo.u>, scsd1055@doo.doo.u writes:
> This is a test....sorry.


sco be do be do.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: Richard A. Swift <Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu>
Subject: Re: Parking law
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6F8B075FC01401C@rswift.aero.nd.edu>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 7 Oct 92 21:19:17 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Aero. & Mech. Eng.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:14:35 GMT

In article <1avbeiINN331@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Kevin Charles Rubio,
ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu writes:
>The managers also said that "all mobile home parks" have a no-motorcycles
>rule.  This is not true -- there's at least one in this county I know of
>which does allow them.
> 
>--

I own a mobile home here in Indiana, and motorcycles ARE allowed (I
wouldnt be in this park otherwise). Just down the road though there is
another park that DOES NOT allow motorcycles. In fact, at the entrance to
that park there is a sign showing a motorcycle with a red circle
surrounding it and the obligatory red slash across the bike. This sign
REALLY pisses me off, and I bet the tennants wonder why there are so many
loud motorcycles in front of their trailer park, especially on Friday and
Saturday nights.... the sign does more harm than good.

As for your situation, its too bad your landlords have this mind-set over
2 wheelers. I dont know what advice to give you. The only thought that
comes to mind would be trying to get your neighbors to support your
position. I dont know if they will or not, but there is strenght in
numbers.


Good Luck!

Rich
______________________________________________________
Rich Swift    DoD # 3030   
ZX-10  - Faster than the speed of thought -

                      Hessert Center for Aerospace Research
                              University of Notre Dame
______________________________________________________
From: randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley riders are JAGOFFS!!
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:37:57 GMT
Reply-To: randy@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

In article <1992Oct8.142528.5549@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude) writes:
|While I'll be the first to admit that you do brag about how fast your toy
|is compared to mine,

  Touche'.

|I'm obviously happy with my bike if I've kept it long enough to ride 
|19,000 miles in 14.5 months in the NorthEast (about 14,000 of those miles 
|were clocked in 1992).

  Ditto.  Only 11,000 miles in the last year, but you know us posers... :-)

|  I enjoy the vibration (the main reason I got a
|Softail instead of a Low Rider), noise and wind more than the bad-boy
|image that makes people lock their car doors when I rumble up next to them.

  Its rubbing off - I was in full leathers with another riding buddy a few
months back, and got the "lock all the doors in the car" routine.  Pretty
funny - doesn't usually happen to me :-).

|Harleys first captivated me when I pulled up along side one on my CB350
|years ago and saw how the whole thing pulsated and bounced at idle.  I
|remember that day every time I stop at a traffic light...

  We *definitely* have different preferences - when my *car* started doing
that, I pulled the engine out...  If my *bike* started doing that....  Well...
I'd probably shoot it to put it out of its misery :-).

Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy
From: pdomain@emory.edu (Mike Mitten)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bicycle vs motorcycle flame war, part XXXVII
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:04:15 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Jonathan E. Quist (jeq@i88.isc.com) wrote:
>In article <1992Oct15.180342.28677@megatek.com> randy@megatek.com writes:
>>In article <1992Oct14.211112.7675@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
>>|No, you were an idiot.  And your original post reveals your feeling
>...
>>doesn't make me a rabid car hater, you moron).  Your choice, but quit trying
>>to justify your juvenile reaction.  
>
>Thank you.  Gen. Stockdale, do you have anything to add to the discussion?

"I love this planet, and I want it to be here for a long time."

  -Admiral James Stockdale, during the Vice-Presidential Debate.

This quote may not be exact, but he definately said "planet."  This
has to be the best line to come out of this farce^H^H^H^H^Helection
so far.

Mike Mitten - pdomain@emory.edu - Irony is the spice of life. - DoD#522
I do not speak for Emory University, nor for Public Domain, Inc.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: Flame Bait (was: Re: Drag racing)
Reply-To: randy@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:45:34 GMT

In article <1939@shaman.wv.tek.com> harmons@mithril.WV.TEK.COM (Harmon Sommer) writes:
|>>"Victimless crime" is an oxymoron.
|>Not true.  Smoking dope is a victimless crime, many times.
|I wonder if the people who care for crack babies would agree with you.

  Not that I agree with *either* side, but let me try to clue in the clueless:

  Dope USUALLY means marijuana, NOT cocaine derivatives.  The comment about
crack babies is totally non-sequitor.

Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 20:33:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.103605.17104@bnr.uk> datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
>Kay's fairing extender puts an air blast at just above eye-level, this causes
>the visor to close at over 80MPH which I often don't want.  

...until you get a stone/bug/bird/tennis-ball in your eye/nose/mouth. After
that you'll find that a closed visor at 80 mph is quite all right.

My Shoei TF 280's visor used to flip *up* during shoulder checks on the 
highway. If anyone would like a description of the fix, just email.

HEY, VOLUME'S BEEN PRETTY LOW LATELY. PUMP IT UP!

We were talking about bugs before, lets see... where are my matches (never 
did buy the lighter).... ah, there they are..

If there are any Harleyites out still out there who haven't buggered off 
to r.mc.h(-d), I have a question. I see you guys on the highways (rarely 
doing over 80 mph, mind you). You have open face helmets and long beards 
and no windscreens. I ride with you for an hour or two, then I stop for gas 
and duck into the can to clean the numerous invertebrates off my shield so 
that I can see. Disgusting. How can you stand getting all those bugs in 
your face and beard? How do you clean them out of your beard? Do you just 
dip your beards in hot water and make soup? Is getting insects embedded in 
your cheeks and up your nose an enjoyable part of the experience? Since 
mainly HD riders wear open face lids around here, can I assume that getting 
bugs in your face is one of the better aspects of riding a Harley and that 
it makes up for the crappy ride and sore back?

It's just a simple question, Binkley, no need to get nervous.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
From: osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Make Your Own (was: Re: Electric Vests)
Date: 13 Oct 1992 09:36:01 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Oct13.133907.13962@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>meb4593@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com (Michael Bain) writes:
>>cel@nsscmail.att.com (clayton EDward LEIHY iii) writes:
>>>has a very detailed article by a gentlemen (read Non-DoD'er) who
>>>made his own.  He includes illustrations as well as procedures to
>>>compute how much of what kind of wire you'll need, how to attach
>>>it, and how to regulate it.  Says he saved a lot of money by wiring
>>>up an existing vest.
>>Is this something you could post, for those of us that don't get this
>>mag?  (and I don't think it is available at the local moto store).
>>(envisioning an electric aerostich from neck to ankle ...)

For whatever it might be worth, I'd like also to see a reference on
building your own evest.  As you can see above, the original location
of the article was lost.  If it was a British mag, my local bookstore
carries quite of a few of them.

(Why is it that England, which is about the size of a medium-sized
Texas cattle ranch, has a dozen or more bike magazines and we have
to suffer with just Motorcyclist, Rider, and CycleWorld?)

-
-John H. Osborn
-osborn@cs.utexas.edu
-DOD# 2001  '92 BMW Paris-Dakar
-Queer and Proud
From: TKPOWELL@bluemoon.profs.tek.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley Fashionable == Deaths
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:41:21 GMT

mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson)writes:

-I must point out to you that some of us cannot understand why anyone
-would want a 900RR, or any other sport bike for that matter.

-Have you priced the top of the line 1993 sport liter bike from
-Yamaha.  It is actually less expensive to purchase some models of
-80 ci Harley's.

RR... did someone mention RR?  I had a fantastic ride last Sunday on
one of those plastic rice burners.  Rode up a beautiful winding mt.
road along the Clackamus River (NW Oregon).  The leaves are turning;
the river is low and crystal clear; the air was sharp and clean.
The RR loves this type of road.  It leans effortlessly.  It accelerates
effortlessly.  It stops effortlessly.  I crossed the mt on a 25 miles
stretch of dirt road along another sparkling river.  Came out on
Hiway 26 and headed toward Hood River and the Columbia R. on Hiway 35.
There were long, smooth, sweeping corners taken effortlessly at
80 and 90.  There were magnificant views of Mt. Hood.  There were
no cops (that I saw).  I loved it.

The not so wonderful part comes when you hit the freeway.  This little
rice rocket burns my butt.  Got to rest it after 100 miles or so.  Guess
I'll check out the Corbin.

Harleys... I'd love to have/build one of those sporty types that Nick I.
of Motorcyclist has.  The same ride would have been just as much fun,
possible at a slower pace.  I love the sound of those V twins.
Thump, thump, thump....

--Terry
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: daved@convex.com (David Dorfman)
Subject: Re: If you could pick only 5 bikes...
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:43:15 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

 don't think I'd need five bikes but:

 Honda ST1100 ABS/TCS for long rides at high speed
 Honda CB900RR For Short agile rides at high speed
 Yamaha RD350 for the nostalgia value and quick wheelie potential
 YAmaha TZ* for off road to learn riding skills and teach my Son how to ride
 Ducati 900SS So everyone will be jealous

 Dave
 DoD 1085


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Deafness...WOT?
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:00:23 GMT

Jonathan E. Quist (jeq@i88.isc.com) wrote:
: In article <1992Oct09.113119.16896@bnr.uk> datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
: >Did any of you BBC watchers see the page: Motorcycling Causes Deafness on 
: >CEEFAX today?  They, the Medical Society,  had checked a hundred anarchical 
: >hippy nazis -oops, sorry, I mean bikers, and found that more than half had 
: >damaged hearing.  They recommended ear plugs and better soundproofing in 
: >helmets.
: 
: Just curious..... Did they check against other factors, like listening
: to loud music?  What percentage of the population at large goes to
: rock concerts without hearing protection?
: 
: 
: M'Lud.
: 
: I SAID: "M'LUD", M'LUD.
: 
: Cor blimey.
: -- 
: Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
: jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
:         There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
:        Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.


Yes they did, but apparently listening to loud music only makes the condition 
worse.  Riding to rock concerts without hearing protection was a contributory
factor but percentage wise weighed rather lightly against the number of day to
day journeys ie going to friend's partys in Rotterdam or driving to restaurants
in Leicester (from Swindon) and back again the same evening.


Nick (the doorpost Biker)  MAG 73516  DoD 1069  Ear Trumpet  Black Sabbath@250W


M'Lud.


God deafen me!


Sidecar>  My friends just returned from their 5 week honeymoon in California.
          They rented an R100RS for some of the time and took some great vids.
          It was great to see the Bay area etc.  I laughed when I saw some
          "squids".  Also, they snapped the rear of a K75 with the number plate
          "TO BEEM".  Does this belong to any of you peeps out there?
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I won? (NOT!) (really DoD pets)
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:10:26 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Tony Wang (twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
: HOG#0550903	'93 XLH-DX Sportster		(Ain't going nowhere)
                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(Ooooh, I'm gonna hate myself for this but he makes it so easy.)
Sounds like a typical Harley alright.
--

*******************************************************************************
* Bill Ranck                                          ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu *
* DoD #496  Bikes past and present: CB175, CB550F, Norton 750, CB350F, XV535  *
*******************************************************************************
From: mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley riders are JAGOFFS!!
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:51:46 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

>In article <1as8t7INNpc9@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
>> Why do people ride Harleys?

Because we like them.


--
      Michael L. Johnson
      mlj8e@virginia.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant)
Subject: 1992 GSXR 1100 Exhaust system for sale:
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:37:56 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky, USA. -5 GMT

I have a set of 1992 Gsxr-1100 pipes for sale. They are the stock system
complete. New and in perfect condition.
Make me an offer.
From: shinh@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu (Shinjiro Hirose)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Post-tipover tips?
Keywords: mud, slippery
Date: 10 Oct 92 20:48:05 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: Mass General Hospital NMR Imaging Center

So, I dropped my bike today.  I was at the MIT football game, and
as I was leaving at halftime, I drove onto some grass to go around some 
pedestrians.  Whoops!! All of a sudden, I'm in the mud!  I guess last
night's rain softened up the (newly-seeded) lawn.  No damage occurred,
except to my ego... But I did get *big* clumps of dirt inbetween the
headerpipes.  So, I hosed off the bike and continued on my way.
Now all I have to do is wash my (leather) jacket! 
Nothing broke (turn indicators, mirrors, etc), but
is there anything I should look out for?  I got rid of all the
mud and grass...
Thanks,
Shin
dumper of streetbikes in the dirt/mud/new lawn...
  
-- 
====================================================================

Shin Hirose
shinh@nmr-r.mgh.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: barrongj@cs.curtin.edu.au (Greg Barron)
Subject: 1993 ZZRs are faster still!
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 05:04:20 GMT


I read a local mag and they had some info on next years models.

Both of them have been extensively redesigned. The 11 and the 6 both
have dual ram intake systems feeding bigger airboxes. The 6 has practically
been redesigned from the ground up and there are rumours that the Goof2
is no longer better than it.

That's all I can remember except it said that overseas tests have given
high speed runs for an out-of-the-box 11 at 300km/h...

I'll believe it when I see it

Greg

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