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From: avdavid@teal.csn.org (David Ewing)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: B.B. King
Date: 23 Dec 92 17:26:12 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes) writes:

>I don't know if it's out on CD, but my absolute favorite BB King album is
>"Indianola Mississippi Seeds".  If it is out on CD, I don't know if the
>digitized version could live up to the album, but as far as the music
>goes, it's really fantastic.

I just checked my Noteworthy catalog, and this is indeed on CD (for
only $7.99).

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From: alan@squid.hi.com (Alan Greenspan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Greg Brown Query
Date: 2 Jan 1993 21:08:53 -0000
Organization: Hitachi Computer Products, OSSD division
NNTP-Posting-Host: squid.hi.com


Does anyone familiar with Greg Brown know if he ever made the children's
record he's been talking about for the last couple years?  He sometimes
sings a hilarious lullaby in his shows and has mentioned that it would be
on the record.
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: delwell@wam.umd.edu (Daniel W. Elwell)
Subject: Re: New Age vs Enya & Clannad
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:27:18 GMT

In Article 19272 billrich@caspian.ext.vt.edu writes:
>New Age is some of the most atrocious "music" I have heard, seeming to
>begin  from the false hypothesis that you can create something entirely
>"new" without any influences.

While I agree that a lot of New Age music has little to recommed itself,
I think that the more successful New Age performers, e.g. George Winston
and Mannheim Steamroller, have been strongly influenced by the folk and
acoustic traditions.  IMO New Age in general lacks the structure that
folk & acoustic music do, making it slightly more pleasing to listen to
than white noise. Still I have to give the performers credit for being
to do pretty darn good stuff, given proper motivation.


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Daniel W. Elwell	(delwell@wam.umd.edu)
Applied Mathematics Program, University of Maryland at College Park
From: ljane@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Linda Cast)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: The Great Selkie of Sule Skerrie
Date: 31 Dec 92 19:31:55 GMT
Reply-To: ljane@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Linda Cast)
Distribution: austin
Organization: Tandem Computers; Austin TX
Originator: ljane@ocean


 Hi,

 I just saw this thread and may duplicate some info, but did some
 research on the song once.  In the library, found a very old map
 book that showed Sule Skerrie to be an island or small group of
 islands north of scotland or wales. More current maps at hand that
 day didn't show it at all.

 Joan Baez sang it and of course, it was lovely.

 The first part of the song as she sang it was:

 An earthly nurse sits and sings,
 And aye, she sings, my lilly wean (sp?) (little one),
 For I know not my bairns father,
 Far less the land where he dwells in.

 For he came one night to her bedside,
 And a grumbly guest, I'm sure, was he,
 Saying, here am I, thy bairn's father,
 Although I be not comely.

 I am a man upon the land,
 I am a silkie on the sea,
 And when I'm far and far frae land,
 My home it is in Sule Skerrie. 

 And he hath ta'en a purse of gold,
 And he hath placed it on her knee,
 Saying give to me my little wee son,
 And take thee up thy nurse's fee.
 
 (forgot) something about taking the babe in spring or summer
 (forgot) back to sea...
 (forgot),
 And teach him how to swim the faem (foam).

 And ye shall marry a gunner good,
 And a right fine gunner I'm sure he'll be,
 And the very first shot that e'er he shoots,
 Will kill both my young son and me.


 Since a lot of responses may have disappeared before I saw the thread, this
 may be redundant - if so, sorry :-) - this is one of my favorite songs. 
 Another poem that would be great put to music on a similar theme, is the
 lonely merman poem - have forgotten the title and author, but it goes:

 Come, dear children, come away,
 Down and away below,
 Now my brothers call from the bay,
 Now the salt tides seaward flow,
 Down, come down, and away.

 Call, dear children, call once yet,
 Down and away below,
 In a voice she will never forget,
 Margaret, Margaret.

 Margaret was the mortal mother who had refused to go to sea with her lover
 and sat in the church. He asked the children to call because children's
 voices were ever dear, then seeing no response, he sadly told them to come
 down, down and away below.

 Actually, I have a small tune put to it, but am not a musician. If anyone
 is interested, I think my little part resounds well with the poem, and
 would be interested in sharing it with you so you could use it if you
 wanted.

 Linda

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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:18:33 -0500 
From: "Jane F. Kinkus" <jk79+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: build your own banjo!


responses to the recent thread "simple banjo questions" has resulted in
communication between me and steve goldfield (sag@hera.berkeley.edu)
about where one can find banjo kits.  steve writes:

>I know of two types of kits. The Sega company in South
>San Francisco makes a sort of Whyte Lady kit for about $450.
>Then the HERE company in Minnesota makes the mountain banjo
>kit I mentioned for about $120.

for addresses & phone numbers, you can probably get your local librarian
to look them up in a business directory or directory of manufacturers. 
(i could not find either of these companies in the "thomas' register of
american manufacturers.")

also, the stewart-mcdonald manufacturing company (POB 900, athens, ohio,
45701) produces banjo and mandolin kits.  according to david burnor in
"the next whole earth catalog" p. 472 (new york: random house, 1980),
"Their particular claim to fame is their line of banjo and mandolin kits
which provide musicians with great sounding instruments in easy-to-build
money saving form."

sorry i didn't have similar reviews for the other companies mentioned!



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Jane Kinkus
Science Information Specialist
Engineering and Science Library
Carnegie Mellon University

Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: jshockey@world.std.com (John C Shockey)
Subject: Re: Ray Fisher CD
Summary: Where to get it, a summary
Keywords: Ray Fisher
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:57:19 GMT

Thanks to all who sent suggestions on how to get Ray Fisher's CD
"Traditional Songs of Scotland" (Saydisc CD-SDL 391) in the U.S.

In case anyone else was interested:

I was able to get a copy from Qualiton Imports:
24-02 40th Ave., Long Island City, NY 11101; phone (718) 937-8515.

The Musical Heritage Society (Box 1408, Asbury Park, NJ 07712) was also
suggested. I haven't checked this out, as I had already ordered a copy
from Qualiton. (From what I was told, MHS had a better price.)

Andy's Front Hall was also mentioned as a place to get the CD. I had
previously tried them, but they didn't have a copy in stock. They would
have ordered it, and I think they might have it normally.

One final suggestion was the Black Swan, in Vancouver BC.

John Shockey
jshockey@world.std.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,soc.culture.celtic
From: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
Subject: Re: Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
	<1992Dec25.230323.21041@news.clarkson.edu>
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 04:38:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec25.230323.21041@news.clarkson.edu> walker@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Graham Walker, 227 West Old Main,268-3847,) writes:


   MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL IN SOC.CULTURE.CELTIC.

But you cross-posted to rec.music.folk.  Did you intentionally withhold
holiday wishes from us, or is this just a folk pas? :-) 



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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Subject: Re: The Battle of Alma
Reply-To: jonb@ingres.com
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:16:30 GMT

In article <1h9f3gINNbmo@agate.berkeley.edu>, lanih@herald.Berkeley.EDU (J. Lani Herrmann) writes:
>A parallel set of lyrics appears in the Sam Henry collection, page 90...

There's also a Copper Family song (no, this time I'm _not_ talking about
the Kipper Family) called "The Battle of Alma", which I've always been
rather fond of.  It starts:

   A gallant young soldier a letter did write
   To his own dearest jewel, his joy and heart's delight.
   To tell her of the danger that he had entered in,
   At the Battle of Alma, where thousands were slain.

   It was the bravest battle that did the world surprise,
   To see our brave soldiers to stare them in the face.  [sic]
   We were commanded by Lord Raglan, a man of courage bold.
   We showed them our needlework, and forced them to yield.

...and there are a few more verses; great tune, too.  I understand that
the line about the "needlework" is an idiomatic reference to fixed
bayonets, but it's always conjured up this image of a hard-bitten,
war-toughened British Army sergeant (played by John Cleese) standing up
amidst the smoke and fire of battle and shouting "Right, you stinking
Russkie bastards!  This 'ere is called 'trapunto', and it was done by
Private 'atfield over there, and this lovely bit of embroidery was done
by Corporal Smithers.  'ad enough yet, or shall we bring out the framed
alphabet samplers?"

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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: plouff@kali.enet.dec.com (Wes Plouff)
Subject: Looking for Solstice Assembly (Choral Group)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 03:27:11 GMT


Can anyone provide contact information for the group Solstice Assembly? 
In August, 1991, or so they were featured on "NPR Weekend Edition"
talking about their then new album, "Under the Drawbridge Sky."  Since
then, nothing heard in New England.  They are an a capella chorus
singing a mixture of medieval and classical pieces plus modern folk
songs.  Any sightings or sources would be appreciated.

-- 
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From: miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Need resonator made to order for open-back
Date: 21 Dec 92 07:08:36 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Looking for a banjo builder (or ingenious improvisor) who will
make a resonator to order, as a
"clip-on" for an open-back.  (Deering makes 'em, but only to fit
Deering open-backs.)

Anybody have any ideas, please email me; thanks.
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From: spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Mandolin Brothers/Santa Cruz guitars
Date: 3 Jan 1993 06:16:03 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
NNTP-Posting-Host: zion.berkeley.edu

In article <1993Jan3.023350.20453@trintex.uucp> neverisk@trintex.uucp (Mike Neverisky) writes:
>	Ok, enough with this indulgence.  Comments and discussion of Santa Cruz
>guitars, or OMs in general is welcomed (and enthusiastically encouraged).
>

My impression of Mandolin Brothers was the asking prices are
high, by about 20% across the board, and I've been told that at this 
establishment you need to *seriously* dicker over price if you don't 
want to pay too much (boring, isn't it...)

I have no idea of the reality of the pricing of their 
$8K or $10K old Martins, etc.

As for the SCGC models: I like some of them, not all of them.
I think one of the best I've seen is a Santa Cruz "H" that
I played at Sylvan music, in (as it happens) Santa Cruz CA
not long ago.  The H is a smallbody, I'm not sure if it's
as small as an OM though.

(Mandolin also had some Collings guitars that were very very
good...)

A good Santa Cruz is a great guitar.  Take a look though 
(shameless plug) at any of the Bozeman-made Gibson's before
buying a new production guitar.  They are surprisingly good.

Steve
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,soc.culture.celtic
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: The Great Selkie of Sule Skerrie
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 19:58:54 GMT


OK... So whats a "Selkie"?



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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: sek@blitzen.cc.bellcore.com (Spencer Kantor)
Subject: Re: Dave Mallet
Reply-To: sek@blitzen.cc.bellcore.com (Spencer Kantor)
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Red Bank, N.J.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 17:03:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec25.164126.24779@wl.com>, offordj@wl.com (Jim Offord) writes:
|> Greetings:
|> 
|> I was in Tower Records lately and ran across a compilation of Dave
|> Mallet's songs from 1977-1980.  Picked it up and listened to it.(Very
|> good album)
|> Any way, I was wondering if he was still around. I haven't seen
|> anything by him for years.
|> Is he still alive and performing?
|> 

As of a year ago David Mallet was based in Nashville working primarily
as a songwriter.  I've seen his name as a songwriter credit on recent country
releases by a variety of artists.  He still tours but does so very
infrequently.  That's a shame because one if the best "folk" concerts I've
seen was David Mallett performing solo in a YMCA auditorium in Princeton
about 8 years ago.  Just him and his guitar for about 2 1/2 - 3 hours. He
had the small but appreciative audience spellbound.  

-- 
Spencer Kantor
Bell Communications Research

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From: jcf@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: new year's eve
Date: 30 Dec 92 03:53:43 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

Marcie Becker <becker@osf.org> writes:

>Does anyone know of a New Years happening with folk music in the Boston
>area?

There is an FSSGB singing party & potluck at my house, from 6:30 p.m.
into the New Year.  239 Clinton Road, Brookline -- on the D line; fast
connections to First Night.  Call me at (617) 731-9190 for directions.

%^)
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From: archer@elysium.esd.sgi.com (Archer Sully)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: The Great Selkie of Sule Skerrie
Date: 28 Dec 92 21:00:10 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1992Dec28.041913.3425@freenet.carleton.ca> aa478@Freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Shuttle) writes:


* After all, the Silkie in the
*song allows himself to be killed by his lover's future husband --
*to ensure her happiness? 

There is an alternate interpretation of the last verse of "the Great
Silkie" that I will leave for the reader to come up with.  It shouldn't
be hard once if you apply a slightly twisted mind to it ;-).

Hint.  "Guns" and "shooting" may have nothing to do with killing ;-)


                    Archer Sully      archer@sgi.com

        You are a good man, but you are in the wrong place and
        you are going to die a horrible death.
                        - A Chinese Ghost Story
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: ehrlich@world.std.com (Stuart R Ehrlich)
Subject: Performer/lyrics of "Are You Happy Now?" ?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:25:40 GMT

Our local folk show plays a tune by a solo male performer, the
chorus of which is "Are You Happy Now?".  The performer also gives
an intro, explaining his ex-girlfriend wondered why he never
wrote a song about her, so he did when they broke up.

Who is the performer and on what album?  (So I can purchase it and
get the lyrics, unless someone wants to post them.  Though I'll likely
purchase it anyway.)
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Simple Banjo Questions
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:37:45 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <sf_fpQi00WA78OSotb@andrew.cmu.edu> eg1n+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eli Brian Goldberg) writes:
>
>1. What are the respective advantages/disadvantages of a tenor banjo
>over a 5-string banjo?  Is one of the twain more popular for certain
>styles of music?  [I have a strong interest in doing folk, and that's
>about it. ;-]
>
They are totally different instruments.  The tenor banjo is played
with a flatpick.  Some Irish folk music is done on tenors, and in
this case they generally follow the fiddle and are played like
a mandolin.  Most tenor banjo players play jazz or ragtime.
If you want to play stuff like Pete Seeger, the 5 string is what
you want.

>2. My only experience with a banjo has been a few minutes of fooling around
>with one at the MD _House of Musical Traditions_ and falling in love;
>stylistically, how much of what I do on the guitar can I use/rip off
>and use well on the banjo?  For the most part, I do either generic
>fingerpicking/ornamentation or Leadbelly playing at the moment.
>
You will find that the left hand carries over some.  The right
hand will need retraining.  The banjo movements with the right
hand are completely different from those on the guitar.

>3. Do people who seem to find the guitar as a "natural" instrument (i.e.
>the instrument just flat out teaches _itself_ with maybe an hour of
>lessons every year or so) tend to find the banjo to be likewise?
>
Gee, I don't know.  I never found the guitar that easy.  I like the
banjo quite a bit better, but I think the guitar is a bit easier
to play, but not a whole lot easier.  You really should get a good
banjo teacher.  Make sure it is not just a bluegrasser if you want
to play folk banjo.  There are lots of really good banjo players/teachers
in the DC area.  If you want a really fine banjo, have Kevin Enoch
make you one.  He's right there in the DC area.  Also, make sure you
don't get a bluegrass banjo (with a resonator) unless bluegrass is
the style you want to learn.  The folk banjos have open backs.



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From: colm@mathcs.emory.edu (Colm K. Mulcahy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Same Old Man AT The Mill - trad.??
Date: 1 Jan 1993 18:11:19 -0500
Organization: sometimes, but never early in the morning
NNTP-Posting-Host: emory.mathcs.emory.edu


Ian Matthews with Plainsong, 20 years ago, used to do a song whose title
was listed as either Same Old Man  OR  Old Man At The Mill.

(Same old man, working at the mill, mill turns around of its own free will,
hand in the hopper, 'nother in the sack, ladies fall forwards, gents fall back)

what are he origins of this song (ie, who did they nick it from!), and what is
the correct title (if such a thing exists)?



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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: dld@cs.monash.edu.au (David L Dowe)
Subject: Seeing John McCutcheon in the U.S.
Summary: I'd like to know where John McCutcheon might be playing in Jan/Feb'93
Keywords: McCutcheon, John McCutcheon, Christmas in the Trenches, visiting U.S.
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:23:29 GMT

   Prior to sending this posting out, I thought I'd scan rec.music.folk on the
off chance that there might be something about John McCutcheon.  I was
surprised and delighted to see that there was a posting about "Christmas in
the trenches", although (unfortunately) my newsreader is disabled over the
Christmas break, and so I couldn't read this posting (other than seeing its
subject line).   I have a copy of the live tape, "Live at wolf trap", which
is a live recording from "Barns of Wolf Trap", which I think is in VirginiA.
(I'm an Aussie, and a friend has a copy of my tape.)
   I plan to "tour" (but not in concert :-) ) the U.S. in Jan and Feb of '93.
I've heard that John McCutcheon lives somewhere near Carolina, although I'd
be curious to know where (not the street address, though).  As I say, I'd also
like to know where he might be playing so that I can try and catch him in
concert.

Thank you for any help you can be.   Whether or not you reply to the newsgroup,
please direct any replies to me, as I should be able to log on occasionally
from various sites in the U.S. and read my mail back "here" in Australia.

Regards,  David D.
From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: New Joni Mitchell fan wants your help
Date: 24 Dec 92 15:20:31 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

Well, "name your favorite folk artists" seems to go 'round about once
a month here. Here's a few, off the top of my head:

Classics: Judy Collins, Joan Baez, 
Modern singers with a classical sound:Lui Collins, Connie Kaldor

Modern: Shawn Colvin, Suzanne Vega(moody and funky), Patty Larkin
(some funny, some serious), Christine Lavin(mostly funny), Indigo Girls

Some other women singers: Ricki Lee Jones,("scat" and jazz) Joan
Armatrading (esp. her early stuff) 
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From: jerry@hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Words (and chords?) to "Fair Flower of Northumberland"DIR/NEW
Date: 30 Dec 92 14:29:39 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <1992Dec30.014656.10684@lokkur.dexter.mi.us>, scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons) writes:
> Looking for words and chords to a song -- the title was something
> like "Fair Flower of Northumberland", and the tag line on each
> chorus was a minor variant of "and you're still the fair flower
> of Northumberland."  The story was that some handsome chieftan was
> captured but convinces the local noblemans daughter to free him.
> Has a nice pair of surprises at the end, neither of which I'll
> reveal here.  Ring any bells?  I've never heard it on record or
> radio, but the person who sang it claimed it was "traditional".
> I'd ask her myself, but haven't seen her in a decade or so.


Sara Grey record it (in duet with Ed Trickett) on her Folk Legacy album.
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: bgarfink@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (beth diane garfinkel)
Subject: Philadelphia Contra-Dance?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 17:08:56 GMT

Does anyone know anything about any contra-dances that will be going on
in or around Philadelphia in the next two and a half weeks or so?  If
so, please e-mail me with details; I don't check this group too often.

							Beth

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