HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Cory_Finn@qmgate.arc.nasa.gov (Cory Finn)
Subject: Re: klepto cat ... any suggestions? 
Organization: NASA - Ames Research Center
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 21:05:14 GMT

In article <726440068snx@n5ial.mythical.com>, jim@n5ial.mythical.com (Jim Graham) writes:
> 
> In article <Jan.6.21.00.16.1993.5208@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
> giordano@andromeda.rutgers.edu writes:
> 
> > [I wrote]:
> >> one of the cats living at my dad's house has an interesting trait...seems
> >> she's a bit of a kleptomaniac!
> 
> >  This is really funny--to stop it I guess we need to
> > know what kind of stuff, stuffed animals, clothing,
> > plastic what.
> 
> well, let's see....  if I remember correctly, the day I saw her at this
> it was mostly small, soft (i.e., cloth, furry, etc.) stuff.
> 
> and yes, it is funny!  :-)
> 
> > Herman would  take it around the house all night
> > moaning like he found a prize mouse and tangling it
> > up the stairs to my bed. He would keep doing it
> > till all the yarn was taken upstairs.
> 
> you may be on to something there --- perhaps we're looking at her
> ``catch of the day'' or something along those lines?  :-)
> 
> later,
>    --jim
> 
> --


My cat Penny fell in love with my furry lion slippers (the kind where
the front is shaped like an animal face). She would carry them all over
the house as if she owned them until one day I decided to wear them.
After that she was never interested in them again. Go figure.
Unfortunately, this hasn't stopped her from taking other things.

Cory
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lrabe@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Lee A Rabe)
Subject: Re: Things my strange cat likes to eat!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:33:49 GMT


My cat (Tarot) also enjoys eating "strange" people food.  This includes
ProcessedAmericanCheeseFoodSlices, Pringles' (but not other potato chips),
jelly doughnuts, and buttered bread.

He also enjoys drinking my Mountain Dew if I am not watching my glass! :)

LAR
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: kkv@inel.gov (Jamie J Ferguson)
Subject: Re: cat IQ test
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 20:15:09 GMT


My two male cats both chase and chew on their tails (not enough
to hurt, they just like to play with them).  Its really gross
when they chew on their tails until they are all slobbery and
then come sit on your lap and their slimy tails touch you!  Yuck!


Jamie

the pack:  Kenzie   -- 1 yr old black Lab X
           Meggin   -- 8 month old Australian Shepherd X
           Harrison -- 4 month old Border Collie X

the herd:  Kieri -- 5 1/2 yr old lilac point Siamese
           Zak   -- 5 1/2 yr old blue point Siamese
           Duke  -- 1 yr old seal point Siamese

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From: kkv@inel.gov (Jamie J Ferguson)
Subject: Re: Timing
Keywords: Heat, vet, hell.
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 16:44:00 GMT


I'd guess your vet was just trying to convince you to get your cat
spayed, which is a very good idea although his information is a
little biased.  There may be some cats, maybe one in every 100,000
or so, that stay in heat for 6 months, but most do not.  My mom,
who breeds and shows her cats, has had some females who seemed to
be in perpetual heat, but my understanding is that the majority
of female cats do not stay in heat for more than a week or two.
It probably depends on the cat in question, and of course the only
way to find out is to wait.  My female kitty was EXTREMELY loud
and irritating when she went in heat (Siamese tend to be very
obnoxious...) and would wake us up because of the noise.  She was
fixed after about 2-3 heats (she was 9 months or so), but she
drove us crazy until then.  

If you don't show your animals and don't intend to then there is
no reason not to get your animals spayed or neutered.  It makes
your house much quieter, and you don't have sex-craved cats
rolling around on the floor.  Besides, going into heat seems
pretty stressful, and I like my cats to be themselves instead
of being changed by hormonal urges.


Jamie

the pack:  Kenzie   -- 1 yr old black Lab X
           Meggin   -- 8 month old Australian Shepherd X
           Harrison -- 4 month old Border Collie X

the herd:  Kieri -- 5 1/2 yr old lilac point Siamese
           Zak   -- 5 1/2 yr old blue point Siamese
           Duke  -- 1 yr old seal point Siamese

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From: prkenne@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (CAROL SHARP)
Subject: Re: AMAZING!! Re: DECLAWING?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  7 Jan 1993 09:42 EST  

In article <1993Jan6.192012.16395@athena.mit.edu>, amd@space.mit.edu (Ann M. Davis) writes...
>|> > spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope) writes:
>|> >> In my area, animals who are allowed to roam freely
>|> >> rapidly become road pizza.
>|> >
>|> >Right.  This is why I qualified my statement that
>|> >cats should be given sufficient time outdoors
>|> >*if practical*.
>|> >
>|> >If it's not practical (i.e. safe) to let the cat out
>|> >a bunch then obviously don't do it.
>|> >
> 
>We managed to turn a lengthy and tedious flame war about declawing
>into one about indoor vs. outdoor. 
> 
>SIGH!  Anyone in favor of vegetarian diets for cats???
> 
>(please please please don't answer that question.)
> 
>Now if I could only figure out why I was still following the declawing
>thread in the first place.
> 

Probably to see exactly HOW long people are going to pretend to themselves 
that they can change someone else's mind!  Sooner or later they will 
realize that the horse is dead and everyone can stop kicking (just an 
expression!).


            " Learn from the mistakes of others
             you can never live long enough to
             make them all yourself"

                                *Carol*

			
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: npm@dale.cts.com (Nancy Milligan)
Subject: How Kitty shows affection
Organization: Titan Linkabit Corporation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:42:14 GMT

One of the things I like about cats is their own unique ways of showing 
affection.  Taboo likes to jump in my lap and butt his forhead against
my chin.  Sometimes he licks my ear and nibbles on my earlobe.  It 
kind of tickles.

Bonzo was another head-butter, but he always drooled like crazy when
you petted him.  You'd end up drenched in kitty-drool after a petting
session with Bonzo.

Tootsie didn't like excessive displays of affection, but she'd rub round
your ankles and always just go slightly out of reach of your hand, luring
you on after her.

Cleo never showed much affection except by lying in close proximity to you.

My childhood cat/nemesis, Johnny Go-Round, used to show affection for
me by chasing my feet.  I would go running, screaming and laughing from him.
I couldn't STAND having him chase my feet, so of course he did it at
every occassion.  I would tell my mom, "get rid of that cat", but then
a little later she'd ask me about it and I wouldn't let her.  I remember
waking up in the middle of the night once with Johnny tangled up in my
hair, gnawing on my skull... playing of course.  It's a wonder with a 
devilish kit like him that I grew up loving cats.
--
Nancy P. Milligan 				npm@dale.cts.com
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: kgh@shell.portal.com (kim g helliwell)
Subject: Re: Cat likes dipping things in water
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 06:53:38 GMT

One of my cats dips his paws in the water dish; he also used to climb in the
tub when I was getting ready to shower.  He liked walking around in the 
water, and only the shower turning on would get him out.

He hasn't figured out about dipping anything other than his paws in the water,
thank goodness!

Kim

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: "barry schiele" <barry.schiele@canrem.com>
Subject: indoor/outdoor, another p
Reply-To: "barry schiele" <barry.schiele@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:30:48 EST

Not to mention the exposure of the cat to untold dangers like FIP,
feline leukemia, fleas which case tapeworm, killing of wildlife taht is
there nature and also cause intestinal parisites, cars, other more
street wise cats and worse other so called people that you mention taht
kill main or poison cats for no reason. No one does there cat afavour by
letting it roam outdoors. INDOOR CATS LIVE LONGER.
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: My kitty is afraid of fans!
Date: 12 Jan 1993 03:38:37 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
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kDianna Laakso (drl@sol.acs.unt.edu) wrote:
[Data's story deleted]
: Anyway, Data is afraid of fans. If he walks into a room and sees the ceiling
: fan spinning around, he loses it...hisses ferociously and growls, then runs 
: for cover and hides. My friend thought that maybe Data hurt himself by 
: climbing into a car's engine to keep warm, and had to make a quick escape
: when someone started it up. He _did_ have some black, oily dirt on his
: legs when I found him...

I think that your friend is right. Data's a lucky cat in more than one way.:)

Karen


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: noe@cs.uiuc.edu (Roger Noe)
Subject: Re: My kitty is afraid of fans!
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Comp Sci, Urbana, IL
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:03:03 GMT

In article <drl.726802081@sol> drl@sol.acs.unt.edu (Dianna Laakso) writes:
>Anyway, Data is afraid of fans. If he walks into a room and sees the ceiling
>fan spinning around, he loses it...hisses ferociously and growls, then runs 
>for cover and hides. My friend thought that maybe Data hurt himself by 
>climbing into a car's engine to keep warm, and had to make a quick escape
>when someone started it up.

That's possible, but not necessarily the explanation.  All my cats
have expressed displeasure (maybe even fear) for "cat choppers"
(ceiling fans).  This is most pronounced in the one cat I have now,
and I know for a fact she's never been hit by a fan.  If I run the
ceiling fan continuously for a long period of time, she adjusts
to it.
--
Roger Noe                            noe@cs.uiuc.edu
Department of Computer Science       40:06:39 N.  88:13:41 W.
University of Illinois               (217) 244-6173
Urbana, IL  61801  USA
From: sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu (Susan R. Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: early wake up calls
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:23:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.EfIgNba00iV4I1Pn1O
	<1irr6hINN9fm@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Organization: University Libraries - Technical Service, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>I need advice.  My cat, Jester, has this habit of waking me up very
>early in the morning.  He goes through this routine.  First he licks my
>face, if that doesn't work he bats the blinds.  Then as a last resort,
>he bites my nose.  


Hi Its me again.  Thanks for the overwhelming response I have received
regarding Jesters early morning wake up calls.  However, unfortunately,
lack of food is not the problem.  He gets canned food (1/2 can) in the
morning and evening and has dry available at all times.  If he's
starving he would eat this.  I think he just wants me up.  Tonight I'm
trying a new trick.  I'm going to put tape on the window sill and see
how he likes that.  Hopefully this will resort to him just
licking/biting my face which I can defend by going under the covers. 
Thanks again.  I'll let everyone know how this works.

Susan and Jester
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: kkv@inel.gov (Jamie J Ferguson)
Subject: Re: Need advice about older cat and new puppy.
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 19:34:00 GMT


Our two older cats aren't very fond of the youngest dog, but they
will tolerate all of the dogs as long as the dogs are being calm.
They didn't like any of the dogs for quite some time when each was
brought home, and you'll probably have more difficulty since this
puppy doesn't live in your home.  My guess is that they will get on
fine given time and exposure to each other, but they probably won't
be as close as if they lived in the same house.  I could be wrong,
however.


Jamie

the pack:  Kenzie   -- 1 yr old black Lab X
           Meggin   -- 8 month old Australian Shepherd X
           Harrison -- 4 month old Border Collie X

the herd:  Kieri -- 5 1/2 yr old lilac point Siamese
           Zak   -- 5 1/2 yr old blue point Siamese
           Duke  -- 1 yr old seal point Siamese



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From: spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: declawing?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 22:58:41 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
NNTP-Posting-Host: zion.berkeley.edu

> Then they showed a tom cat who came upon some unattended kittens 
> (who had previously been shown with their mothers).  He explained 
> how toms will kill kittens who were not fathered by him--and then 
> they showed the DEAD KITTENS.  Good grief - what did they do - sit 
> and watch this tom cat kill the kittens.  It was too much for me.

This is pretty sickening.

I don't care whether it is natural behavior for toms to
snuff kittens or not, it is SICK for people to be there, filming, 
and not intervene or in fact to have facilitated the
killing of these kittens.

(Reminds me of the instance in northern California a few
years back when some prison guards were caught feeding
kittens to their Pit Bull.  It's natural for pit bulls to
trash kittens too, but one does not need to make a
demonstration out of it for educational purposes.)

In my opinion whoever filmed this piece of trash oughta
be investigated under animal cruelty laws.

Steve
From: wd6cmu@netcom.com (Eric Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Change in diet
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:48:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1993Jan12.194805.11091
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

berthiau@iro.umontreal.ca (Eva Chan) writes:
> Another thing, just how good or bad an idea is it to change catfoods 
> every so often?  When I was at a pet show, a guy at the Iams stand said
> that it wasnt really a good idea to change.  Any thoughts on the subject?

I've been told by a couple of reputable sources that it's a good idea
to vary the cat's diet from time to time to keep them from developing
finicky cat syndrome.  It's probably a good idea to start mixing the
new food in with the old rather than changing it all at once to keep
from upsetting their digestion.

-- 
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WD6CMU@WD6CMU.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA       |  is adequately explained by stupidity.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: muaddib@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rob Dorfman)
Subject: Re: Cats and TV
Organization: Department of Chemistry, Stanford University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 03:52:19 GMT

My kittens like to watch TV.  They are DSH's from the same litter
and are about 8-9 weeks old.  Their favorite show is Startrek. :-)

Rob :-)


Rob Dorfman  (muaddib@d31mf0.stanford.edu  or  muaddib@star2.cm.utexas.edu)
              ---------------------------      ---------------------------
From: tvatne@pearl.tufts.edu (Tom Vatne)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: The late, great Tiger
Date: 8 Jan 93 03:39:00 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

Since I'm not allowed to have any pets in my apartment, I like to read
this group, which often prompts different memories of cats that I used to
have when I lived at my parents home in Vermont. The stories about
various cat tricks reminded me of one of our cats, Tiger (b. ca 1963,
d. ca 1971). He was an orange tiger cat (naturally) who wasn't fazed by
very much, not even tail-pulling, which made him the ideal sort of cat
for us young kids. He didn't even mind too much when I gave him the
obligatory "swim test" that I gave all our cats (toss 'em in the pool).
What can I say, I was 4 or 5 at the time. Anyway, I found out cats can
swim, they just don't usually like it too much. :-)

My parents house is in farm country, so our cats roamed outside
frequently. One summer day, I heard the back doorbell ring, so I ran
to see who it was. I opened the door and no one was there. I opened the
screen door to get a better look, and Tiger walked in. I thought someone
was playing a joke on me, rining the bell and running away, but I didn't
see anyone. Another day the same thing happened. Doorbell rings, I run,
open the door, no one there, but the cat walks in.

Then one day the doorbell rings, and I must have been pretty close to it,
because when I opened it, there was Tiger spread-eagled on the screen door!
Apparently, he would climb way up on the screen door, then bang the doorbell
button with his paw, then jump off and wait to be let in! The button was
probably 4' off the ground, so there was no other way he could get to it.
What I don't know is how he ever figured out that pushing that little button
would do anything useful...


Thomas Vatne, Sys. Mgr.         tvatne@pearl.tufts.edu
Psychology Dept.                All opinions expressed are those of Tufts
Tufts University                Univerity, except when they're not, which
Medford, MA 02155               I guess is probably most of the time.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: demetri@cgrg.ohio-state.edu 
Subject: Ode to Spot
Organization: OSU Advanced Computing Center for the Arts and Design
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:19:35 GMT

AAAAAAAAARGH!  And might I add *whimper*.  I've been wanting the words to
this for ages, apparently someone finally posted it, and I hit the "n"
button by mistake.  Could some kind soul please mail it to me.
Thanks in advance.                  Renee
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: joann@capalo.ingr.com (Joann Miller)
Subject: Homemade Cat Food
Organization: Intergraph, Palo Alto, CA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:34:39 GMT

Does anyone out there make their catfood?  I found some recipes
in a Cat Care Book which includes mashed vegetables, brewers
yeast, etc.  I followed the recipe for fish and my little dearies
stuck up their noses!  I also have a recipe for using liver, 
poultry and beef products, such as heart but haven't tried them
yet.  I would be happy to share if anyone is interested.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lyndap@Novell.COM (Lynda Peterson)
Subject: Re: help!!!
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:19:08 GMT

Sorry for the double posting, I hit the wrong button. 8-o

Maybe you could explain to him that part of your adorable personality is  
loving cats. It makes you tolerant of creatures who don't understand  
reason. I told my boyfriend (now spouse) that loving me was loving EVERY  
part of me and that included my love of cats. He used to torment my Boo  
until I pointed out to him that this behavior would cause him great  
distress in the afterlife.

Mine story ended good, good luck with yours.
_______________________________________________
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and you just added another verse."	  /^\
From: feldman@flash.crd.ge.com (Sandra F Feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Caring for cat after surgery
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:31:32 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

In article <29615@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, kleiman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Aileen Kelmartin) writes:
|> 
|> Let me start off by saying please no flames for having my cat declawed.
|> 
|> Anyway, today my cat is being spayed and declawed.  I decided to do
|> them both at the same time so that she is only under anesthesia once
|> instead of twice.  My vet requires that she stay two nights due to the
|> declaw.  Does anyone have any good advice on how to treat/care for her
|> when I take her home?  I have been told to act like she still has claws
|> for a while by ouching when playing... etc.
|> 
|> Thanks in advance.
|> 
|> Aileen

Since the vet is keeping her for two nights, odds are that you will not have
to do anything special.  When Pooky came home from the vet, you would never
even know she'd had surgery.  My husband had picked her up, so by the time I
got home she'd had a chance to greet the other cats and a bite to eat.  When I
got home she acted perfectly normally, and even climbed right up on my shoulder
to ride around.  By the way, after being declawed she got even better at riding
on my shoulders.  Since she could no longer use her claws to attach herself, 
velcro style, to my sweaters and my skin, she was forced to balance instead.
-- 
Sandy Feldman
feldman@crd.ge.com

my opinions are mine and do not reflect a position of General Electric