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From: timmi@asylum.sf.ca.us (Timothy G. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: drinking age
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:19:55 GMT
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>        What's the drinkin' age in AK? No, I'm NOT gonna waltz up there and
>get smashed. (Remember, I live in Waltham. They've never HEARD of I.D.s
>in this town. If I wanted to get drunk, I could probably get the Domino's
>guy to deliver it along with my pizza.) I'm asking because we've seen Ed
>drinking beer a couple of times. How old is he? Do you think they bother 
>with drinking age in Cicely? And how old was Shelly when she started
>working in the Brick? She's 20 now, so if she's been workin' there more'n
>two years she's been breaking the law. Would Lt. Semanski (sp?) kick
>Maurice's butt for allowing minors to break the law in his town? Just
>wondering...
>                                Rosaleen Dhu

The drinking age in alaska is 21, just every other state in the US
that I know about.  How has Shelly been breaking the law?  As I
understand it, most states allow people 18 and over to serve alcohol,
just not drink it.
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From: merritt@macro.bu.edu (Sean Merritt)
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Subject: Re: Sacrilege!  Blasphemy!
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:23:39 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <1bf9ctINNscn@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ar619@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jaime Villacorte) writes:
>
>In a previous article, lbrother@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Larry Brothers) says:
>>But to push a Harley off a cliff?  Sacrilege!  Blasphemy! 
>
>    Or how about using what looked like a Macintosh IIsi to display
>that ugly looking, PI-churning application at the end of the show.
>True sacrilege! ;-)  (followups to comp.sys.mac.advocacy)

Like this last episode or not it has generated  more USENET
traffic outside this group than any other. I have seen articles
in sci.math (on Pi), and rec.music.industrial (because the
clock meister mentioned Einst. Neubaten(SP?)). Anybody
who follows the motorcycle groups see anything? What about
animal rights etc?

...and I thought NE had a bad lot being up against Monday Night Football.


>
>    So I wonder what Chris will have to sacrifice next when he
>accidentally knocks off another of his SO's pets? His pickup truck?
>His record collection? Bernard? Look out below!
>-- 
>					- jaime villacorte
>
>					  ar619@Cleveland.freenet.edu  or
>					  jaime@tcville.hac.com 


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From: walker@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Scott Walker)
Subject: Re: continuity lacking
Organization: DuPont Central Research & Development
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:40:07 GMT

In article <revillot-061092091832@mm-mac23.mse.uiuc.edu> revillot@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Judy Tolliver) writes:
>The season, so far, seems to totally lack continuity.  The characters seem
>to have ceased their development from last season.  Case in point:  Last
>night Maggie is surprised that Joel offered to help her.  But just the week
>before, he paddled up a river to do just that.
>
>Another thought:  It would have been interesting if Maggie did decide to
>sleep with Joel, which I believe last season was building up to anyway, and
>then just before doing the deed, Joel falls asleep.
>
>Am I expecting too much from this show?

I agree with you, Judy.  I feel like I am waiting for this season to catch
up to last year.  Maggie and Joel don't seem to have taken their relationship
anywhere, and where is Adam and Eve?  

This week's show was much better than the previous two, but I too think it
is sub-par compared to last season.

Did anyone notice more children in this episode?  I did.

Man, there are so many things to look for in this show, I almost have to
tape it, so I can go back and catch everything that we all talk about!

Scott
From: dcleek@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dick Cleek)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: t-shirts
Date: 14 Oct 1992 21:45:01 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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I lost the reference to nxp t-shirts. Anyone have
an address or tel.# ?

Thanks, in advance.
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From: bartlone@gemed (Mike Bartolone 5-4266)
Subject: Kids...
Reply-To: bartlone@gemed.ge.com (Mike Bartolone 5-4266)
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Milwaukee,  WI
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 22:02:00 GMT


A few weeks ago, there was a discussion about the lack of kids on NX.
I saw one in the season opener, and two more last night..was there
ever any resolution to the discussion?

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From: dog@sequent.com (Paul Parenteau)
Subject: Re: Midnight Sun Episode
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 00:38:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.154534.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu> bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
>What I really didn't like was there seems to be very little sense of
>continuity.  I really hope they start weaving more threads through multiple
>episodes, and cause the characters to change visibly, and talk about what
>happened in the events before.
>
Remember what the show was like in the "early" days?  Boyfriends getting hit
with satellites?  Cow tossing?  If the show starts to run standard threads,
it will become just another boring sitcom.  The "Midnight Sun" episode 
supports the critics calling NX a "quirky comedy"!  :-)  

ObQues: Wasn't it nice how they started the story of playing basketball with
	a basketball mysteriously rolling into town?
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From: JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Episode 10/12
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:28:25 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <fqnpy!=@lynx.unm.edu>, gworrell@carina.unm.edu (Gayla M. Worrell)
says:
>
>In article <drenze.718989753@icaen.uiowa.edu> drenze@icaen.uiowa.edu (Douglas
>J
>Renze) writes:
>>Just a few minor notes.  Why was I in no way surprised that Maurice initially
>>flipped out when a 420-year-old clock gained a mere 6-8 minutes per day?
>>Also, the motorcycle thing...does anybody see a parallel here to the
>>zanyness of the cow-throwing-thang from last season?  Are we getting
>>repititious?
>>
>YES, YES, YES
>I sat through the scene in over and over in my mind I kept hearing the line...
>"It's not what you fling...but the fling itself"
>
>                                Gayla
NO, NO, NO
We are not getting repetitious.  Although there is certainly a surface
similarity between the two incidents, a closer look reveals that there
are major differences.  To begin with, in the case of Chris' bike, it
IS the thing that is flung; we're talking about Chris' most prized
possession.  Remember the sonnet he wrote on his hawg?  How he talked
about his hawg while he tried to teach Marilyn how to drive?

The point here is sacrifice.


Jim Thomas
From: psylum@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu (Jan Hastrup)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: missing kids of Cicely mystery; parakeet?
Keywords: children; dead live birds
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:52:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

A possible solution to the missing kids of Cicely mystery:
maybe they're all hanging out at the Village Pizza, which is
shown in the opening credits -- about where Morty the Moose
first appears.  Across many episodes the adults have been seen
inside the Brick, Ruth Ann's store, Joel's office, various 
people's houses, the church . . .  But what adult would stray 
inside the Village Pizza if all the kids really _are_ in there.  
Well, perhaps some day Joel will be called upon for an emergency
Heimlich maneuver, or Ed will explore the VP with his newly-
repaired camera, and we'll see if this hypothesis is correct.   

I thought the "parakeet" in the 10/12 episode was a prop, and a
poor one at that.  When it was "dead," it looked more real than 
when it was supposedly alive.  Parakeets do not mildly nod their 
heads when a strange hand enters their cages.  Okay, maybe that 
bird was sick and about to drop dead anyways?  But his replacement 
also sat woodenly on Chris' finger.  Cheap!  (Or is that:  cheep!)  
Is this an isolated incident or is production maybe getting a
little sloppy?  Like the poor canoe paddling, it's distracting.
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From: cmbecker@space.mit.edu (Christopher M. Becker)
Subject: Re: Episde 10/12 and other stuff
Reply-To: cmbecker@space.mit.edu (Christopher M. Becker)
Organization: MIT Center for Space Research
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:25:11 GMT


In article <1992Oct13.144411.25985@spectrum.xerox.com>, Don Wegeng <wegeng.henr801c@xerox.com> writes:
> I didn't particularly enjoy this episode, either.  One of the things about
> NX that I enjoy is that the sub plots in an episode all seem to center
> around a general theme.  This week there didn't seem to be any general
> theme, just a couple unrelated stories.
> 
> /Don
> wegeng.henr801c@xerox.com

That's interesting, I had just the opposite conclusion.  I also love how the 
subplots mesh together at the very end--and I think these did beautifully.
I thought the theme was measurement and precsion--what scales should one use
to measure success, functionality, and equality.  Rolf's character...the 
clock plot...Chris (Many-worlds interpretation of QM) paired with Amy
(let's get time on a Cray YMP80 and calculate PI to 10^10 digits)...the way
Amy needed to algebricly operate on both sides of the equation to maintain
equality vs. Chris' comments on KBHR at the end.  I thought this was a very
good episode, hokey at parts but good.  The clincher was "Inchworm" as they
went to black.  I was singing it when I got up the next morning.

			Just MHO,

			    Chris

P.S.  Are there really 8 consecutive 8's in PI around the billionth 
	didgit? 
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From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: Janine Turner in Chevy Commerical
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:13:33 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.145637.10554@netnews.synoptics.com> franks@synoptics.com writes:
>In article 1840@ringer.cs.utsa.edu, sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>>That's what was missing!! She looked ok, but it took me a few seconds to
>>realize who it was.  It looks like she's reading a cue card.  You're right
>>her speech did seem stilted, a little too deliberate.  One ad she'd be good
>>in is her as Maggie selling Cessna 172's :-)
>
>An excellent idea.   With the advertising plan worked out,  all Cessna has to do
>is start manufacturing 172s again.  (They havn't made a light single engine plane
>since ~1980).
>
>I guess this really belongs in rec.aviation, but I couldn't resist.
>
Well, I guess Maggie could fly one of Cessna's newer planes, but I doubt there
are any airfield around Cicely that could handle a LearJet-type plane.
Jets don't land well on grass :-)

Simon

If this gets into planes and off of NX, take it over to the right newsgroup!!

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From: ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair)
Subject: Re: Sacrilege! Blasphemy!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:51:52 GMT

ar619@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jaime Villacorte) writes:

>    So I wonder what Chris will have to sacrifice next when he
>accidentally knocks off another of his SO's pets? His pickup truck?
>His record collection? Bernard? Look out below!

   I got the impression that Chris isn't going to see her again.  That
the bicycle destruction was a sort of closure.
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From: el27166@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (This Space for Rent)
Subject: Basketball and Winning
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:49:28 GMT

The best part about the midnight sun episode was that they did NOT
win the basketball game!  They didn't even come close!  Everyone
was just happy that they did better than last year.  I'm glad I 
didn't have to watch a _Bad News Bears_ rerun, or heaven forbid,
_The Mighty Ducks_.

They took Joel's sun-sickness as a gift and made the best they could
with it.  It's exactly as the episode began.  A basketball drops
in out of nowhere.  Ed doesn't ask why or where it came from.  He just
says, "Hey, I wondered where you were."

Maurice mentioned a Cicely vacation plan.  You know, it doesn't
sound like such a bad idea.  I'm sure than a few people would like
to visit Cicely.  :)

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From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)
Subject: Re: Season's premier, loud musical score?
Organization: very little
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:17:20 GMT

In article <drenze.718403401@icaen.uiowa.edu> drenze@icaen.uiowa.edu (Douglas J Renze) writes:
>djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson) writes:
>
>>>The volume was terrible! The scene in the Brick, where Shelley talks to 
>>>Maggie about turning thirty, was awful! I almost couldn't hear the 
>>>dialog over the music.
>
>>I heard it just fine in San Diego.  If it was loud, I didn't notice.
>>-- 
>
>My complaint is that the sound quality was inconsistent...I was constantly
>having to adjust the volume to compensate for character voices fading...I
>surmise it was the result of them not being tracked very well with the mikes,
>because they would fade in and out as they moved toward and away from various
>fixed points (mainly in the Brick).
>

This shouldn't be a problem if the sound is done right.  If there are
parts of dialog that are hard to hear, they take the actors whose
lines have problems to a studio in Seattle and do what is called
"looping."  The actor watches him/herself on the monitor, and dubs
over the old dialog with snippets of new dialog in the problem areas.



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From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: Maggie a babe
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:05:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.134839.13452@b8.b8.ingr.com> larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.134911.1172@b8.b8.ingr.com>, ratter@b8.b8.ingr.com (Ray Ratte) writes:
>> In article <1992Oct10.083058.2068@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>> > In article <MERRITT.92Oct8135245@macro.bu.edu> merritt@macro.bu.edu (Sean Merritt) writes:
>> > >In article <jp.2@usafa.af.mil> jp@usafa.af.mil (J P) writes:
>> > >
>> > >>   How many you out there think Maggie is a babe?
>> > >
>> > >I didn't until the long dress in the car commercial.
>> > >
>> > >Wow!
>> > >
>> > >I can't even remember the type of car she was selling.
>> > >
>> > >What long dress in the car  commercial?? The Chevy ad I saw on the
>> > nite of 10/3 was a closeup shot of her face, and she was just giving the
>> > pitch for the Chevy geo.
>> >
>> > My girlfriend keeps her hair short, and I used to tell her to let it grow
>> > out, until I really started watching N.Ex. and saw Janine Turner :)
>> >
>> > Simon
>>
>>  Janine has more than one commercial for Chevy now airing. I have seen 3 so far.
>
>I think she is incorrect in what she says on the Geo commercial---"There is
>no beautiful scenery...".  She is all the Scenery I need.
>
Over the past few days I saw two of the ads, one with just the closeup of her,
and the one where she is standing by the Chevy Cavalier, wearing the black
dress, now what other ads have there been?? I've been watching for them.
From: urgent@elea.umd.edu (Gen)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Episde 10/12 and other stuff
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:22:31 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <921014183323@enchanted_forest> timmi@babyoil.ftp.com writes:
>>No i really ment "clock fixer" and shelly.  i did not detect any interest
>>between him and ed.  i took it as goofy male bonding that ed does.
>>
>>what made many posters think that i had erred in my original post.
>>
>>reg
>
>I detected no interest, in fact no clue, on Ed's part.  There were
>just one or two things the "clock-fixer" said that suggested he might
>be gay.  The most notable one was his statement about liking Vanessa
>Redgrave because she was so masculine (boyish?) accompanied by a
>little look at Ed when he said it.

The worship of all things masculine and proud, the wish to experiance
and live within the visceral, the impassioned sensitivity of an artisan:

	these qualities are not atypically German.

thinking out of hand,
gen
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Episde 10/12 and other stuffclose
Summary: exit
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:36:40 GMT
Followup-To: alt.tv.northern-exp
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <revillot-131092090649@mm-mac21.mse.uiuc.edu>, 
revillot@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Judy Tolliver) writes:

> This episode was almost like watching a different show but with the same
> actors and sets. 

AGREED!  I didn't like it at all...

1) No Joel and Maggie?

2) Maurice waxing philosophical about time, and sounding like Chris?

3) Chris going even farther than usual...a message from God in Pi???

4) A mathamtician searching for Pi in the middle of Northern Alaska?

5) Was Chris responsible for killing those animals?

6) Should he have to destroy his property, and litter that beautiful valley?


And did anyone else notice that it seemed like they've gone from video tape
to film for some of the shots?  The beginning especially looked like a 
"movie of the week"...

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From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Episode 10/12, or whatever it was called
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:19:21 GMT
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA

In article <Bw5GCA.BBJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu> el27166@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
(This Space for Rent) writes:
>number theory.  It's stuff which makes me ill, personally.
>Commutative rings, fundamental theorems of mathematics, stuff from
>Euler to Euclid.  What a drag.  Nothing so simple as a sophomore
>undergrad class like imaginary numbers or non-linear differential
>equations. :)

Oh, it's elegant stuff.  Beautiful stuff.
You get algebraic coding theory, error correcting codes, data compression,
Galois theory, groups, rings, and fields, and more.  I'd liked dealing
with vector spaces personally.

Monday Noon, my ex-officemate gave me a problem.  10 hours after
hearing it I "proved it" in five minutes:

It is known that 101 is prime (decimal).  Prove that all subsequent
appendings of "01" are composite: i.e. this sequence: 10101, 1010101,
101010101, and so on.

It was fun.  This problem came from George Michael
at LLNL just before he went in for eye surgery.

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From: sxclm@orca (Cal Mercer)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Midnight Sun Episode
Summary: Alaskans reportedly hate NX
Date: 12 Oct 92 00:11:00 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska - Fairbanks
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC

In article <1992Oct7.010848.14534@news.vanderbilt.edu>, mwmv@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (Michael Mogensen-Vermillion) writes...
>In article <1992Oct7.001543.29524@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> lw2c@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Levi  Wallach) writes:
>> . . . why doesn't there seem to be any Alaskan's who subscribe to this
>>group?  Don't tell me noone has access to Usenet and/or watched NEXP
>>up there?
> 
>Last year I read an article (it escapes me where) that implied that our
>beloved NX is not popular in the 49th state.  
> 
>Obviously I don't know how much truth there is to this article's claims,
>but I have my doubts.   The Alaskans quoted in
>article expressed the opinion that the show left the impression that
>residents of their state were all eccentric hicks and (pause for effect)
>that the native Cicelians were DUMBER THAN JOEL!!!!
> 
[text deleted...of course]

Oh, I'm sure there are quite a few folks here in Alaska that have access to
Usenet and watch NEXP, but I think the major compelling reason for a lack of
response is that since we live in Alaska and know what the place is really
like, that we recognize the truth that NEXP is only a fantasy and should not be
confused with the "real world."  Cicely does not exist north of the arctic
circle.  Cicely does not exist south of the arctic circle.  Cicely exists on
your TV screen and in your minds.  And, occasionally, the producers and writers
come pretty close to reality, but not enough to do Alaska justice.  All in all,
I think it's a very good show, but then I don't expect them to accurately
portray life in Alaska, either.  We're not ALL hicks, but I'm sure we got our
share, too.

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From: jjd3@po.CWRU.Edu (James J. Dibenedetto)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Janine Turner in Chevy Commerical
Date: 8 Oct 1992 15:14:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, molin@crs.cl.msu.edu (Michael Olin) says:

>sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>
>Is it just me?  I'm not particularly impressed with Turner's appearances
>in the Chevy ads.  Her speech seems stilted, to me, and she doesn't have
>that "I can handle it." appearance that she exudes on N.Ex.
>
She looks almost as though she's been sedated in the commercials, IMO...


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