From: underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe)
Subject: Re: My new Saturn in the shop for new transmission
Keywords: Saturn reliability
Organization: Miners for a Heart of Gold
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 05:44:04 GMT

In article <Nov.19.12.41.14.1992.27793@aramis.rutgers.edu>
rinehart@aramis.rutgers.edu (Mark J. Rinehart) writes:
>Dwight, first, if you're going to respond to a post, address the issue
>that the original poster is asking about. Second, your response is one
>of the bigger loads of crap I've seen. Third, in case you've been off
>the planet for awhile - and your response certainly makes it appear as
>though you have - 15K for a car these days is hardly *alot of money*.

Yes, 15K is a LOT of money, depending on your income.  You can guess mine,
Mr. Rinehart.

>Fourth, Mr. Lee's post was to-the-point and asked a valid question.
>Why you should start off by saying *I should slap Mr. Lee for this* is
>beyond me, but since I see no smileys anywhere in your response, I
>have to assume your words are serious.

I apologize if I've overstepped myself, but I was being flippant.
I rarely use smileys; my words do the talking for me.  Mr. Pak
can verify this, can't he?

Actually, I like reading this group.  I like reading car magazines.
I like their editorial style, a style that usually accrues to a 
more or less mature product in a mature industry.  It's the same
style used by audiophile magazines.  (i.e. writing = airheaded,
flippant, and fuzzy; the numbers being just a side show; ever wonder
why Motor Trend never includes these comparison stats? cost of insurance,
cost of parts, crash test results, etc. [just too boring, that's why])

Yes.  Folks.  The automobile is a mature product that has yearly
incremental improvements that are must less than the yearly improvements
of newer industries like microprocessors.

If you don't write like you are addressing someone with an addiction
to words "Precision Crafted Performance", then this boring industry just ain't
so interesting.  So, expect commentary like "lean mean speeding machine"
in Motor Trend, Road & Track, etc.

Expect my posts to be of the same calibur.  This is, after all,
rec.AUTOS.

> Therefore, your comment was
>totally inappropriate. Chill and get a perspective on reality before
>you post again, else I may be forced to seek you out and slap YOU
>around.  

To shay.  Reality?  _Really_.  Nead you ask, Mr. Rinehart?

Again, my opinion is "buy American", with American being defined to 
include made-in-USA "Japanese" cars.  They are generally still better
designed than the "real" American cars.

Reality tells me that the money channeled to the American worker
will somehow come back in the form of a purchase of a product
at a company that I might work for.  So really, I'm paying for my
dinner, my house, etc.  And I'd much prefer that over being homeless
and hungry like thousands of layed off auto workers.  Remember.
It's _your_  United States of America.

(I am not pro-Japanese.  I'm also not anti-Japanese.  At least, none
of my posts should lead you to think otherwise.  I encourage competition;
that's why I include vehicles like made-in-USA "Japanese" cars in the
all-around theme of "buy American".)

However, if you are deadset on buying a Japanese car, then buy
Hondas (and Acuras) made over there.  Hondas are solid, no rattle,
durable vehicles.  They are as solid as, well, an Integra Integra.
Eh, Teddy?

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