From: prem@cs.montana.edu (M.P.Premkumar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Please be Accurate to avoid flame wars.
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:40:27 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717

In article <l908k1INNcvu@aludra.usc.edu> rammohan@aludra.usc.edu (Karthikeyan Rammohan) writes:
>	Mr.M.P.Krishna Raj,
>		Let me tell you that my neighbor, who supposedly
>belongs to the backward caste(even though he is a well off
>person,economically) got into guindy, after getting 24/50 in the
>entrance exam and 43% , while my brother with 42/50 in the entrance
>exam and 94% still could not get into any govt college.Are you trying
>to fool people?

You have pointed out an isolated case. I am sure there are hundreds like this 
but thousands of "real, eligible, poor" backward caste people who benefit from
the reservations. Don't look at things from a narrow perspective. Try to think
in a more broader sense. Don't you think the backward and scheduled castes 
have climbed up in the society dramatically in the last forty years ? Is it not
due to the reservations ?

>Please remember that i have lived 17 difficult years
>in Madras ruled by people who use the names of Anna, periyar to
>justify there actions, and there are 2 million fools who beleive them
>and continue to quote them forever.No wonder TN has people who commit
>suicides on silly incidents.

Did you know about the highly civilised American people who still believe that
Elvis lives ? And do you know how many Americans follow religious imposters
who give magnificient speeches with emotion(I finally saw some people in USA 
who could act as well as our politicians). 

TAMBRAS(Tamilnadu Brahmin Assn.) asks people to vote for ADMK in every election.
What do you think about that ? And brahmins vote for ADMK regardless of the 
candidate. Why is this happening ? Does MGR being a brahmin or Jayalaitha being
a brahmin play any part in the logic ? If not then what is the logic in voting
for ADMK which is as good or as bad as DMK.

>	I seriously think that this newsgroup was established not to
>discuss tamil culture, but for things like anti-hindi stuff, brahmin
>bashing etc.

If you serioulsy think that way then why post and then whine ? Why don't you
count the number of people who posted anti-brahmin articles or anti-hindi
articles and the number of people who posted pro-brahmin and pro-hindi articles.
Let us see if the numbers speak the truth. And please also count the articles 
which do not fall in these categories. Then make your statement.

>The way it works is,
>1) First Meenan Vishnu and kathiravan krishnamurti will post articles
>that glorify brahmin bashing(justified by using what some idiot said
>50 years ago or what happened 50 years ago.)

Ok two people post such things[I strongly object your reference to Periyar as an
idiot].

>2)There will be people like me who will post a rebuttal to that.

Ok that's fine too. 

>Then immediately people like Sundara pandian will post mail supporting
>Meenan Vishnu and also will make statements like , we should allow
>this newsgroup to have too many flame wars.
>This will be seconded by Mr.Krishna raj after a couple of days.
>let everybody express his own views.

Whatever Pandian or Krishnaraj say or write is their views just like you and me
writing in SCT. I have also sent e-mails asking one poster(nameless one who I
think is from SL). So what ? This newsgroup is open to all and nobody can
prevent anybody from posting anything. You know that. Then why are you bothered
about what Pandian and Krishnaraj write ?

>but yen Mr.Pandian, Meenan vishnuvirku vakkalatthu vangugirar
>enbathuthan periya puthir?
>Intha maathiri mail anuppicha, ADAMI system yen use panna villai endru
>veru oru puhar?
>entha mailukku pandian enna solvar, "Ivan oru veri pudittha
>brahmin.avan ennavena sollattum, enakkenna"?
>ram
>


Sincerely yours,
M.P.Premkumar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil