From: genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Cure: I Wish...
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 14:48:56 PDT
Organization: Hale Telecommunications San Diego CA

rob@vger.cheme.cornell.edu writes:

> In article <mtl2001-071092160715@m248-104.bgsu.edu>, mtl2001@andy.bgsu.edu (G
> >
> >In article <1992Oct1.150523.20549@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, apash@mta.ca
> >wrote:
> >> 
> >> In article <u882517.717902263@bruny>, u882517@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Blos!)
> >> >kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>BAD POINT. That makes no sense. So they can start churning out Tiffany-s
> >> >>music and I should still adore them?
> >> >
> >> >>"Rape me like a child... christened in blood... painted like an unknown 
> >> >>the only choice is left... your voice is dead and old and always empty..
> >> >>vs.
> >> >>"Monday Tuesday Wednesday blahblahblah..."
> >> >
> >> >>Even Lovesong was great IMOFOSPO because it took convention and turned i
> >> >>its head... "Whenever I'm alone with you/You make me feel like I am free
> >> >>                                                                        
> >> >>So let's just lay it on the line... once the Cure made some good music..
> >> >>recently as 1989 by my count, but the best was 1980-1982. So I'm not a "
> >> >>fan" for no longer adoring them? Oh no! Certainly not like those high sc
> >> >>kids with their _Wish_ t-shirts!! 
> >> >
> >> >>Yeah I must say I can't hate the Cure for making a trashy album. But I'l
> >> >>damned if I'll listen to anyone try and say that they're "alternative" t
> >> >>days or that the new stuff is good and I should adore them. Respect for 
> >> >>individual should be separate from respect for their art. And people sho
> >> >>be so blind as to love anything a favorite group makes.
> >> >
> >> >Hear, hear!  This is the most accurate description of the way things stan
> >> >with the Cure I hace read.  The best track record in the world does not e
> >> >slightly excuse the lame shite on _Wish_...I just don't really care what
> >> >they do any more.  I wish they'd split up after _Disintegration_, because
> >> >that would have been the ultimate epitaph.
> >> >
> >> >			Matt.
> >>    What exactly is your problem anyhow? The way I see it is you think
> >>  that just because_Wish_ went Top 10 that The Cure are no longer
> >>  alternative.The album _Wish_ is just as alternative and just as
> >>  much Cure as any other Cure album. So what if they have a couple
> >>  happy,poppy songs on it, that's not exactly anything new for them
> >>  (Why can't I be you?,Love cats, Hot Hot Hot,etc.). I happen to like
> >>  a lot of those songs and they are just as much of the Cure as their
> >>  slow depressing songs and if for some reason you don't like those 
> >>  songs then listen to the rest of_Wish_ it's not exactly what I'd call
> >>  "lame shit". IMHO the Cure haven't changed their sound any with _Wish_
> >>  and if you want to dislike the Cure just because they got a Top 10 hit
> >>  then I guess that's your perogative. In my opinion that's just as bad as
> >>  the Top 40 junkies disliking a band because they don't have a Top 10 hit.
> >>                                                    
> >>                                                   A.Pash
> >> 
> >>                                        
> >
> >************ Wait a minute...the cure hasn't changed their style? No no no
> >no-- they indeed have, and I would say (as much as it hurts) that it's for
> >the worse. They should have broke up after 89, it would have been the
> >educated thing to do....I still listen to them, they are my favorite
> >band....but no way can you compare the sound of The Top or Japanese
> >Whispers to that of Wish. Do you even have The Top, Boys Don't Cry, Faith,
> >Seven Seconds, etc? Or do you compare Wish to that of Disintegration?(
> >which was good, but not that good) I never thought that I would ever hear
> >the phrase "let's get happy" from Robert Smith's voice......whatever
> >happened to Pornography's morbidness..I liked that..and I was disappointed
> >at the Wish concert when they didn't play those kind of old songs. I was
> >sickened when I looked around at the concert and saw all of those "kids"
> >with Wish shirts on MC Hammer dancing to Friday, I'm In Love and then
> >sitting down during songs like A Night Like This and A Forest. If anyone
> >adores Smith and the Cure it would be me, but give me a break, their sound
> >has changed a whole lot since the days when Tolhurst and Rob were in the
> >band alone. gretchen
> 
> 	I think that you have to give a band the perogative to expand and
> develop over the years.  Sure, _Disintegration_ and _Wish_ are different than
> _Boys Don't Cry_, _The Top_, and _Japanese Whispers_.  Wouldn't it get a litt
> boring if the cure had spent the last decade coming out with clones of there
> early work?  Give them a break.
> 	
> 	Take _Wish_ as a piece of work by itself, not as a sequal to any of 
> their early stuff.
> 
> Rob  
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it was during songs like "from the edge of the deep green sea", "lets god 
to bed", "a forest", "a night like this" etc that i stood up. i love the 
cure and sure, they end up with a top 40 like friday, but "end" is hardly 
a sell out.
-g

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genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)   10-Oct-92 at 2:50p

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