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From: raghavan@wk21.nas.nasa.gov (Venkatraman Raghavan)
Subject: Re: Don't fly on Air India
Organization: -
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 18:18:59 GMT

Earlier someone has mentioned about the difficulties his/her family member
had during international travel.

My humble opinion on this subject: 

* Sometimes when the flights are full, the airline crew have more than
  what they can handle on their hands. This happens with all airlines,
  domestic and otherwise.

* Passengers are expected to carry their from the baggage carousels
  to the reception area. One should consider the passenger's ability 
  before selecting the baggage (size and number of pieces).

* International travel is very tiring, some stretches vary from
  8-14 hours non-stop. Irritations and disappointments are
  unavoidable when you are flying cattle car.  :-) 

* Infants/toddlers have very different needs. They cannot comprehend
  what an 8 hour flight means. It is a good idea to have one adult (I 
  don't mean elderly) to take care of each child. Also it is good to
  take extra food for the children as they tend to become hungry sooner.
  Children have no idea about jet lag. So it is wise to have parents 
  travel with the children as the children are more comfortable when 
  their parents are around.

This is not meant as criticism of anybody, that's why I have removed 
all the references from this posting.

Regards,
Raghavan, V.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: anilk@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: Re: SIMPLY TESTNG
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:05:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.093322.21754@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, paulchem@tramp.Colorado.EDU (PARANCHUTTY U. LICHEMMANATHIL) writes:
> I AM JUST ARRIVVING FROM KERALA, THE SOUTH STATE OF INDIA !! I AM LIKING TO MEET MANY OTHERS FROM OURHOME COUNTRY.  AM NOT SEEING MUCH OF AMERICA YET, BUT THE PEOPLES ARE WEARING MANY VERY SMALL CLOTHES AND ARE VERY OPEN AND ATRACCTIVE LOOKING.  AMERICA IS MUCH LIKE THE FILM EZZAN KADDALINDE KARRE. THEY ARE ALL SAYING HI OR ASKING HOW IT IS GOING ON FIRST MEETING.  IS THIS SIGN OF FRIENDSHIP OR JUST SIMPLY POLITEESS ???!!!?? I HAVE SOME WARRATHE KHAYAS AND OTHER SWEET FRUITS FROM KERALA, SORRY I CANN
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> RE WITH YOU PEOPLES.  WAITING FOR REPLIES VERY SOON FOR YOUR KIND VIEWS ON SUCH THINGS.      :OO  PARANCHU,
> 
>                                
> :wq:wq :WQ
> quiexit
> :ZZ


Yaathra okke sukham aayirunnu enne vishwasikkunnu. Pinne naatil enthokke unde
visheshangal. Mazha nallathupole tudangiyo? America aa cinemayil kandathupole 
aane, ale? Kollaam. Aashan ivide okke karangi, saavadhanam settle aayathine
sesham ezhuthi ariyekkenam. Kaaryngal ellam sherikke nadakkum.

AKP.
  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: nsridhar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Natarajan Sridhar)
Subject: Re: Curious observation.
Keywords: Is it just me amd why not HE?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:48:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.192324.13669@cs.wayne.edu> uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.195553.13271@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> nsridhar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Natarajan Sridhar) writes:
>>2) Spending a night in a predominantly female atmosphere, and waking up
>>   to the sound of giggles and what not to discover that I'd parted company
>>   with my lungi in the course of the night. (No one seduced me. I should
>>   be so lucky !)
>>**Sridhar**
>
>
>Tell me more about it.  How the hell, can you sleep in a `public'
>place with your lungi saying sayonara to you? eh ?  weirdo !

Hey, don't ask me, man. Ever been to any of the south-indian marriages ?
They just hire a huge hall, spread a few mats, and tell you to hit the floor.
It so happened that I landed up with several members of the fairer sex ;-)

>Before this thread gets X-rated by the guardians of SCI, please
>post whether the lungi was your only companion for that night, or
>other `garments' walled the ghastly contents of your midriff.

Not to worry. Nothing was revealed that wasn't supposed to be :)

>
>One does not jump off a cliff without learning how to use a glider.
>similarly, one does NOT (repeat) NOT sleep, untill one has mastered
>the art of wrapping oneself in a `semi-transparent white dhoti'.
>garishly coloured lungi's are a step backward.

Yes, Uncle...
>
>
>Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
>(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
**sridhar**



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy)
Subject: Samit outdoes Mr. Ed (was: Ars Poetica...)
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 12:52:45 GMT

In article <l8r1s4INNffo@phad.hsc.usc.edu> banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.193428.7621@news2.cis.umn.edu> crick@htlv.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:
>
>>>>> PS. Sure it isn't Mr. Ed?
>>>>
>>>>Can't be. Mr. Ed was a horse, not an ass.
>>>>-Raghavan, V.
>>>
>>
>>Raghavan's retort is quite witless.
>>He's shown that his brain is the dimmest.
>>No creative thought
>>From him could come forth.
>>And all because he has a limp-wrist.
>>
>>Ed
>
>Here's how Sthan would react to your earlier posting:
>
>Mine wont rise because I am sick,

[heights of creativity deleted]
>
>Samit

Ed, though responding to my post, chose to deal with Raghavan's 
retort. Whatever the reason, he didn't misrepresent anything. 
The next poster, however, has no such compunctions. Besides 
being unable to spell, he is quite incapable of reading USENET
postings with all their nuances as well...

Good bye Mr. Ed Jr.

Sthan.

PS. Don't bother sending me email apologizing for getting me
worked up. Your hatchets are buried in the Stone Age.
--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
           internet:  bbs.oit.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
From: trivedi@yukawa.uchicago.edu (Anil Trivedi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Appeal to Arindam
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:41:56 GMT
Organization: Enrico Fermi Institute, University of Chicago

============================================================================
mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh) writes

 > There's only ONE religion in this earth...

I agree with all of that

 > ...the latest messanger ... only he knows... the surest method
                               ^^^^
It is these exclusives and superlatives---the "only"'s, the "best"'s,
the "surest"'s, the "oldest"'s, the "latest"'s, the "finals"'s
etc.---which confuse and poison the spiritual communication. 
 
 > You can also see the beauty of the Bahai faith...

I do. It is the overt or covert claims of exclusivity which lead
to pain and conflict.

 > I am free to hold this belief 

You are FREE to hold ANY belief.

 > ..you see that the Bahai faith is going to grow and absorb all...

No, I don't. However, mankind WILL eventually evolve a unified faith,
free of cultural and geographical baggage, and Bahaism can play a
useful role towards it.

 > Yes, my label as a Bahai is new. But as a following of the Sanatan
 > Dharma began when I am a child.

You betray that Sanatan Dharma every single time you hold, no matter
how subtly, your chosen path to be superior to those of others.

 > *Then you better check the impeccability, as the Bahai approach
 > is DOWN-TOP. 

I cannot quote names without permission (I'll try to get permission
if possible). But I plead with you to recognize the *possibility*
that your understanding of your new religion just might be shallower
than you fancy.

 > Build institutions out of the grassroot people and ignore the 
 > established religious institutions

Religous yes: all religions ignore the institutions of other religions!
But social institutions, no. 

As for the Down-Top, you are dead wrong. It is this unthinking behavior 
on your part that worries me.

Why is there almost no Bahai presence in American ghettos and slums,
say like Christian missionaries? Why big beautiful Houses of Worship
in Wilmette or Delhi, instead of many little ones dotting the poor
comunities?

 > I have been selected by Bahaullah...

Perhaps He will also give you the wisdom to match the responsibility.


Finally, you wrote:

 > Arvind writes:

No, my name is Anil. No big deal. But is it possible that you are
approaching other, bigger matters with the same presence of mind?


So long and, really, all the best,

Anil
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sbhatia@eng.clemson.edu (sameer bhatia)
Subject: Re: Gay Men in India ?
Reply-To: sbhatia@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:27:47 GMT

Way back in 1986-7, when the AIDS virus and the epidemic were just beginning to
make their prescence felt, a study was conducted in Kerala...(I do not remember 
details...it was mentioned as part of a lecture on the virus during our 
Microbiology class).... 7% of the population in that study admitted to having
some form of homosexual tendencies (for want of a better word)....
Compare that to a similar study conducted in San Fransisco at that time...also
mentioned in the same lecture.... only 5% admitted to the same thing....

Not surprising...that gays are coming out of the closet now....

Sameer



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jasjit@intelhf.hf.intel.com (Jasjit Singh)
Subject: World War II(Was: Re: Astrology, India and Nosterdumus ?)
Organization: Development Tools Operation, Intel Corp., Hillsboro, OR
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 22:40:36 GMT

I have seen a series of video tapes containing the predictions of 
Nostradamus. I am not much of a believer in Astrology, but the tapes
were really interesting. Some of the future predictions are :

1) A man in a blue turban will rise to power in the Middle east, and
with the help of some republic (I forget which one) of the former
Soviet Union will wage a war on USA, that will become a world war.
The first attack would be somewhere between 1996 and 1999 on NY, followed
by California (using nuclear missiles), starting a 20-year long war]
between the Islamic world and rest of the world. A significant proportion
(was it 20%) of the world population would be killed. India woul emerge
as a superpower in the war that "rest of the world" wins. Then
there would be almost total peace fo a couple of thousand years before
the final destruction of the human race.....

It should be noted that even if we assume that Nostradamus was right,
it does not mean that the above will happen because it is just ONE
interpretation of his words.....
(e.g., Nostradamus' work seems to predict a really destructive earthquake]
which seems to correspond to the almost innocuous major earthquake of
SF a couple of years ago.....)

And , by the way, standard disclaimers apply. I am not paid by nostradamus
or his ghost to write about him...

So, PLEASE DO NOT SUE ME IF WW III DOES NOT START BY 1999....:-)

Have fun,
Jasjit
From: vijay@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Ribaldian discourse
Date: 13 Aug 92 02:29:26 GMT
Organization: University of Engineering, College of Engineering


 The following mind-bending,sesquipedalian exercise is by a prof. of History
at the Delhi University who describes his verse as a spontaneous reaction
to the jargon now current in certain academic circles :) Takes off on
everyone from the the Deconstructionists (Derrida,et al) to the univ.
examiners.


Narrativisationalities of Ribaldian Discourse             Dilip Simeon
--------------------------------------------------

This is my rifle and that is my gun
This is for shooting and that is for fun
This is my discourse and that is my text
Discourse for this life and text for the next

Ethnicity,felicity,moment of poesis
Deploying Derrida,contrive halitosis
Deconstruct narratives,reinventing the nation
Imaging India,maximise obfuscation

Field marshal editor,subaltern mate
Retrieving the body  what fun to relate
Self from the Occident,the other from the east
Apply your mind,know beauty from beast

This is my thesis and that my curricula
Voyaging westward,remain perpendicula
Narrativize textuality of sexuality
Canonize prurience of Orintality

Archaeological silences scatological noise
Knowledge is power,wear it with poise
Positing subject we wish to sublate
Delivering seminar,we sit and rotate

Eros,Telos,Nemesis,Memesis
Mug up my jargon to pass your thesis
Alas!Alack! The subversive mind
Earning hard currency so hard to find

Mentalitie and problematique
Academic fashions need a boutique
Matriarch Patriarch themes for research
Mantras and tantras from ivory perch

Subliminalities of subtextualities
Ponder pomposities or prolix verbosity
Problematising the hidden thematic
Metatextualising intellectuals asiatic

Locating,migrating,mastering said
Oriental professor wants to get
Multicultural interpretation
Metropolitan colonial wants integration

Ethnographics of phantasmagoria
Induce seances of mental euphoria
While translating the palimpsest tender
Oh how I long for the opposite gender

Overinterpreting Marxist constipation
Wallow in post-modern self-flagellation
Transposing observer to populace stance
Overdetermining professorial romance

Agenda of text needs corrigendum
Traversing terrain of ethnic pudendum
Verbs become nouns with lightening velocity
Opaqueness of meaning,euphonic ferocity

Excavating silences admiring the skirt
Unearthing allegories of lexico-inert
Pluralisms of syncretistic exterior
massaging advisors' psychic interiors

Dissecting semiotics of peasant Tebhaga
Fieldworking students need munim dhaga
But how to explain to examiners' team
The subtler uses of dhaga munim

Teasing long-hidden truths if I may
Bribing chaprasis how can I say
Slog long enough, material will out
By which time victory will turn into rout

Elementary aspects of peasant insurgency
Turmoil underneath causing slight divergency
Inverting reality only goes to show
Faculty wanting History from below.

This is my discourse,That is my text ...
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:27844 soc.culture.pakistan:13561 soc.culture.german:5583
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:40:57 EDT
From: <TAZ@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.german
Subject: Transit Visa for germany reqd!

It was shocking for me to find out just a week before my flight leaves that
transit visa is reqd to connect through Frankfurt to Bombay.  I called the
called the german consulate in San Francisco and the recorded message there
confirmed that the racsist, stupid govt of Germany requires a transit visa
of all third world country citizens to just change the flight at any of the
german airports. The recording goes on to say that it is becaise of the gulf
war crises! The war is long over and a new one about to begin in Sarajevo
but the dumb german authorities stILL live in their own world. And man,
I think the mininum qualifications to get a job in the german consulate
seems to be that one has to be positively rude!! I truly hate these
sons and daughters of b******.
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Quitting Gradschool
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:56:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: menudo.1992Aug19.145650.20194
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston

In article <1992Aug19.041456.22561@menudo.uh.edu>, mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh) writes:
>Good bye friends.
>Sorry to give you many growing pains in my spiritual quest.
>The time has come when this pretense of Grad school is meaningless
>Hence I am quitting and you will not hear from me again till I
>know the truth
>Good riddance for many I suppose 
>
>Jenaham Namritashyam tenaham kim kuryam
>
>Bye and love
>Arindam
>

This is an addendum as many parents have sincerely expressed concern about
one  of the child going astray. My thanks to them.

This is not renouncing the world but a change of vocation: Only activities
I can do now is to teach the children and study and make commentaries on
the various scriptures of the religions from my own knowledge. I have to
learn Arabic and Sanskrit first for that. You see there's a lot of work in
front of me: nothing to get disillusioned about.

About the concerns for "truth" being found in any "organized religion", I
can only comment that you don't have any practical experience about how
Bahais work: do you. Take this as an example. Don't run away in an Ashram.
Stay here : Teach people who are illeterate or down-trodden and in the
process do something greater from which all of the world may benifit.
It is not "idealism" there are thousands who have done this and doing this
every moment. 
Bye and love
Arindam
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: xinli@cs.utwente.nl (Xinli Hou)
Subject: Needed: advice to a trip in India
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:52:28 GMT

Hello! Everybody,

In Oct.26-29 I'll attend a conference in Trivandrum, India.
After the conference I would like spend one week or so to see
the other parts of India.

I need advice about e.g. where to go, what to see, clothing, 
climate,... Any information is appreciated.

Thank you for your attention. Reply please send to

xinli@cs.utwente.nl

Xinli Hou
University of Twente
Enschede, The Netherlands
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jiang@resumix.portal.com (Barclay Jiang)
Subject: Spouse visitation visa for permanent resident.
Organization: Resumix Inc
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 19:02:21 GMT

Does anyone out there know the current situation on visa application for
spouses of permanent residents?  I heard that some friends on the news
net had put forward a request and lobbying effort to the congress that 
the implementation of INS laws be amended so that certain number of 
spouses of US permanent residents will be able to obtain visitor visas.  
Unfortunately, I never got hold of the news.  And consequently I never
put my effort into this...

Could someone bring me up to date on this?

Thanks in advance,

Barclay Jiang, Resumix, Inc.
From: joshia@bones.msu.edu (Amaresh R. Joshi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: marathi bulliten board
Summary: to each its own
Date: 15 Aug 92 18:35:50 GMT
Organization: College of Osteopathic Medicine, MSU

In article <1992Aug14.185217.14545@newshub.sdsu.edu> 
                 sanjay@moho.sdsu.edu (Sanjay Phatak) writes:
> hee idea changli ahe . Pun hindustana cha problem punjab madhe pun ahe
>te sale khalistani, vichar na karta nir doshi lokana martat. tanchya badha
>al ki teri karayala pahije. 
> Delhi madhla vatavaran badalnar nahi. delhi madhe badal hoyla ki teri tragic
> hoyla pahije. Khalistan ani delhi, kashmir hay saglya desha cha problem 
> ahe pan maharashtra ni leadreship gheyla pahije. Apla etihasat shivaji,tilak
>,peshwe, tilak,ashi lok aheth. Alpya deshat jer kahi honar asle ter 
> aplaylach keryla pahije.

Is it just me or do others find this marathi to english 
transliteration hard to decipher? Why don't we stick
to english and keep the transliterations for things like
poetry or jokes and puns that would be hard to translate.
Just a suggestion *not* a flame. So anyway what is
sabudana really made of :-)

joshi



-- 
Amaresh R. Joshi             | '... across the pale parabola of joy'
joshia@bones.cl.msu.edu      |
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada)
Subject: Re: Where Programmers are...
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:53:37 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa
Keywords: Programmers, Statistics

In article <1992Aug12.203259.12917@cypress.com> ssr@cypress.com (Bapcha/FPGA) writes:
>In article <10455@wrgate.wr.tek.com> nagesh@loowit.wr.tek.com (Nagesh Rao) writes:
>>Country			Programmers	Managers 	Total
>>-------			-----------	--------	-----
>>USA			1,693,200	253,980		1,947,180
>>USSR			1,445,000	216,750		1,661,750
>>India			1,252,500	187,875		1,440,375
>
>[misc stuff deleted]
>
>Nice to know we are #3,  but a figure of merit would be something like
>no. of programmers per 100,000 people in the country.... which would
>put India further down on the list.
>
>-Bapcha-
>

Exactly the kind of mail I was expecting to see. Right there.
Go India bashers. MOTTO : THERE CAN BE NOTHING POSITIVE ABOUT INDIA.

Ramakrishna
From: toora@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: test! really!!!!
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:46:14 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia

this is just a test


amardeep toor
From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Muslim Intolerance
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:09:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <AeXjgmy00aw=QOe1s1@andrew.cmu.edu>, ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu 
(Arun K. Gupta) writes...
>...... (stuff deleted) ......
>It seems, however, that the words Muslim and Islam short circuits
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>something in your head. 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 Nossir ! That's not what Agarwal and Bhat are trying to point out. That's
 again an egalitarian attitude. What I have noticed is that finally it HAS
 to be an *idolatorous* timid low-life Hindu to be penitent before such acts
 of intolerance. This does not mean that very reasonable Muslims like Naveed
 Sherwani, Naveed Memon, Nadeem Jamali, Syed Hyder, Syed Ayon Mujtaba, Kazi,
 Anisul Haque cannot exist. However, these people are minority. That's why
 we see a lot of intolerance primarily from the Moslem side. This is exactly
 what I am trying to say. If GOI now sends protests, then most Moslems in
 India will say: " Islam is in Danger ". Hindus are insulting the Al-Qur'an.
 When we (idol-worshipping Hindus) feel that we should protest, we are 
 confronted by the strong opposition of Moslems and their leaders. Really I am
 extremely disgusted with such a fundamentalist attitude. I (Deb Chatterjee)
 can be abusive, hot-headed, idiot, a religious bigot and a fool, but everyone
 is not. Initially I thought, in the recent wake of the hate-mails I get, that
 I am over-reacting. But, then someone like yourself showed the way ......:-)
 I am also waiting for obfuscating remarks from everyone on the SCI. Go ahead
 make your day .....
>-arun gupta

 - deb chatterjee
(a good samaritan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rohan@nmc.cit.cornell.edu (Rohan Oberoi)
Subject:  Re: SOC.CULTURE.BHILAI || SOC.CULTURE.ST.XAVIERS.DURGAPUR 
Keywords: Defence Colony, yeah right...
Organization: Cornell Network Management Center
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:32:03 GMT

banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee) writes :

[Lotsa muck deleted]

>How about some "mohalla" or "para" based newsgroups like:

>soc.culture.delhi.defence-colony
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

                    Yahoo !  Recognition at last ...

>soc.culture.bombay.bandra
>soc.culture.calcutta.gariahat


Rohan Oberoi
("These opinions aren't my own, I just made them up")
From: pallergv@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: I TEST U IGNORE>>>
Date: 16 Aug 92 18:46:22 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

JUST A TEST 

SE

M
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Subject: Re: Samit outdoes Mr. Ed (was: Ars Poetica...)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 19:09:27 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.125245.28902@samba.oit.unc.edu> Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy) writes:
>
>Ed, though responding to my post, chose to deal with Raghavan's 
>retort. Whatever the reason, he didn't misrepresent anything. 
>The next poster, however, has no such compunctions. Besides 
>being unable to spell, he is quite incapable of reading USENET
>postings with all their nuances as well...
>
>Sthan.

Alas, a retort without rhyme.
Did we doubt there'd ever be a time
When open form would replace
The meter we embrace
And poetry would stop on a dime.

The poetic virus is gone,
And with it the Bard of Avon.
Byron and Keats
Are once more deceased.
But Sthan is still a moron!!

Ed