From: James.Paulson@p0.f3004.n134.z1.fidonet.org (James Paulson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.senior
Subject: Re: Music with boom
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 11:33:47 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/3004.0 - The Orion Project, Medicine Hat Alta

On Wed 20-Jan-1993  6:49p, Chris Foote wrote:

CF> You will lose a bit af quallity with all of the prcessing to compensate 
CF> for the acoustics.  I'm not saying you can't have acceptable quality for a
CF> lot of money.  My friend just spent $4500 on his car system and it sounds 
CF> ok.  It doesn't compair to even a ceap $2000 sytem you can get for a 
CF> studio.  

Agreed. You lose a bit of the actual raw signal quality - but it improves the performance more than it degrades it. You won't get any arguments from me - but if we are dealing with a digital format then in essence the minute you break continuous analog sound into discrete digital samples, you've allready lost some of "the original signal." Nobody will argue that most CD sources offer better sound than a turntable, but most people don't have a $4000 ORACLE turntable instead of their sound equivalent $200 ch





eapie CD player to compare with.

CF> I know some Hi-fi freaks who won't even have a remote control, bass, 
CF> treble, balace, or any othe little settings because it takes away from the
CF> sound quallity.  Espicaly equalizers.  Unless the come up with a new 
CF> aproach to how they work, they will never make one that doesn't totally 
CF> spoil the quality of sound.

I know some people in this category as well. They have their reasons for doing the things they do - as strange as they seem at times. Some will go to extremes. I know the former owner of K and W personally - he is an IASCA judge and will attest to being one of these types. You use the term spoil in an almost negative connotation - I think the correct word would be "alter."

CF> You probably haven't heard a good home system then.  You can pay $50000 
CF> just for speakers in a home system.

I realize that. I've heard some really exceptional home audio systems with only a Pre-amp/Power Amp, 2 speakers, and a single play CD player in the $8000 range - you would swear that you are watching a band it's so well reproduced.

CF> Ya, theres good money in that, but who's gonna pay someone even a dollar 
CF> an hour for 200 hours just to have a system installed?

Pay a visit to Encore Audio or Audio Concepts sometime and speak to an installer - he will show you these types of people - the pictures of the installs, and if you're lucky what he is doing right now.

I worked with a close friend on it all - I gave him $150 for his efforts in helping me with the project. He didn't want anything, he enjoyed it as well. We have the trophies to show for our efforts. If I had to pay it would have been out of my reach.

You would be surprised to find that there are a lot of people who will pay $8000 just for the install. One of our local people sent his porsche to Calgary for an install of this nature recently. Most shops charge $40/hr - and the thing is that there is enough work on one car to keep one person busy for 6 to 8 weeks. You might be lucky to do 5 cars in a year. There are at least 5 people a year in the city of Calgary who will pay this - the actual number is probably 100 to 200 people.

CF> Oh, don't get me wrong, I have nothing agaist spending a lot of money for 
CF> a car sterio.  I have, but It's immposible to get the same quality as you 
CF> can in your home studio.

I agree its probably impossible - but IASCA's goal is to push the envelope and move from the impossible to the possible. It is almost impossible not to spend a lot on a car stereo today - they all cost a lot of money, and as the investment grows so do the demands of the people who enjoy it. Perhaps someday we will equate the two, but right now, there are way more "toys" available for the car audio enthusiast than the home audio enthusiast - that makes it fun. Imagine duplicating Anaheim Stadium in your car





 with a DSP to "widen" the sound field. The same technology that makes it possible for us to send these messages is also opening up new advancements in other aspects of our lives. I just posted this message because I know that there are a lot of High School aged people who are very interested in good car audio and I thought they might be interested - I wasn't trying to start a debate about whether or not is is better - we've both allready answered that and agree on it.

Have yourself a great weekend.
James

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