HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
Date: 17 Nov 1992 06:07:53 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

bpb9204@tamsun.tamu.edu

  +>All ATM's I've used have an upper limit of $200 or $300 per day.
  +>If you need $1000, it'll take you 4 days to do it.

hees@cubic.com (Phil Hees) writes:
  +
  +Curious.  In this area (Long Island, NY) the limit is typically $500 per
  +day.  (And I thought everything was done on a bigger scale in Texas.  :)
  +Can anyone account for this difference - is it state banking regulations,
  +relative cost of living, or general randomness?

As far as I can tell when I last checked out the laws, bank policy.  
The restrictions arose because most US banks recognize that if there 
were no limits and a problem arise (e.g., disgruntled spouse/SO steals 
card and $$, people who lose their cards with their PINs written on 
them, etc.), they would have a very bad problem even if, technically
under the law, they could get away with it.  For instance, many banks 
in New England in the early 1980s had very large limits (as high as 
$800 as I recall in the records) but have been subsequently scaled 
down to the now more common $300-$400 range.  (New York probably
has a higher limit to enable customers to have enough cash on
hand for muggers.)

Similarly, there are some banks that will give you $20s and $5s as
opposed to the more common $20s and $10s.

Terry "Money, that's what I, uh, what was that?" Chan
--
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,soc.culture.african.american
From: smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re: 1950's Darryle, damnit.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 01:00:39 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <BxryDq.3wK@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta) writes:
> In article <1992Nov15.185443.11261@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
> >In article <Bxrs4z.IEB@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta) writes:
> >>In article <97719@netnews.upenn.edu> weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener) writes:
> >>>In article <9652@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, pmmst8+@pitt (Paul M Mweene) writes:
> >>
> >>>>Is such a difficult thing to infect 30 or 40 year old serum with any virus?
> >>>
> >>>The British sailor who died ~1962 had symptoms that we would today
> >>>recognize as AIDS.
> >>
> >>There is a simple explaination to all this...this sailor had AIDS-like 
> >>symptoms without the HIV virus. So Mweenes hypothesis still holds.
> >
> >Except that the sailor (and the St. Louis male prostitute from three years
> >later, etc.) did have the HIV virus.  
> 
> This comes back to Mweene's claims that the HIV virus was ACTUALLY injected
> into those samples at a much later date...a vicious circle, ain't it?
> 
> >Why is it that y'all are trying so hard to believe something that's so
> >blatantly not true?
> 
> Your naivety amazes me!

OK, let's put it like this.  What evidence would you find conclusive?
What we have now are decades-old tissue samples with HIV, and clinical
histories to match.  You find them unconvincing.  Is there some stronger
evidence you would accept?  What sort?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com (Bruce Tindall)
Subject: Re: protocols of a.f.u question
Originator: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:35:39 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Keywords: Put any old crap up here, they never check


In article <lgj6dnINNip6@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Trelford T. Pinkerton) writes:
[...apropos the Ur-misspeller of "voracity" ...]
>Of course, the little weiner was roasted from here to Pittsburgh
                       ^^^^^^
Wiener.

Bruce "Good thing JFK didn't give his Ich-bin-ein speech in Vienna" Tindall




-- 
Bruce Tindall, Core Testing Mgr., SAS Institute Inc., Cary, N.C. 27513
From: ssugwebb@csug3.cs.reading.ac.uk (G. L. Webb)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Nasty mistake!
Summary: Super-glued butts.
Keywords: glue
Date: 21 Nov 92 17:09:00 GMT
Organization: University of Reading

Hmmm.... not certain this is the right place.
Anyhow I'm gonna tell ya all the same.

I heard this on GLR, the BBCs London radio station, this morning on the Chris
Evans show, not sure of the time though.
Chris was reading some stories from, I presume, this weeks papers and asking
a caller to decide whether they were true or false.

So here it is, possibly, a new UL.

A man super-glued his ass together after mistaking a tube of super-glue
for his haemerrhoid cream. (I guess I spelt that wrong.) Apparently his wife
had been fixing a pair of stilettoes in the bathroom.

No names, no dates, no newspaper identified, but Chris said it was true!
Good enough for me.
Yes I am kidding.

Anyhow has anyone else heard this story or similar gross mistakes?

-- 
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|Gavin Webb, Comp Sci Undergrad, what a surpise! At Reading Uni UK.......|
|NET : ssugwebb@susssys1.rdg.ac.uk -- JANET : ssugwebb@uk.ac.rdg.susssys1|
+----"Bounce on me too, Tigger!" Piglet ----(yes I have got the NHD)-----+
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: tad@sdf.lonestar.org (Tad Dowe)
Subject: Re: 1950's Darryle, damnit.
Organization: Best lil' ol' Pubnix in Texas
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:07:14 GMT

In article <97719@netnews.upenn.edu> weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener) writes:
>In article <9652@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, pmmst8+@pitt (Paul M Mweene) writes:
>>Lets suppose some one was on fire (being accused) for creating HIV
>>virus, would it not be a good way to escape to claim that the Virus
>>had been there even beforfor longer than his accusers claimed?

>No, it would not be a good way.  HIV mutates very rapidly, providing
>a way to trace lineages.

I am not a believer in this conspiracy, but this is quite an assumption:
that HIV mutation would indicate the "age" of the sample. I presume that
you are indicating the several strains of HIV as mutations? With forthought,
why wouldn't the mysterious someone use the first variety detected to contam-
inate the blood sample? Also, the sample could have been chosen because the
individual died of an autoimmunce disease, or one which could be ascribed that
way.

Tad

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,sci.aeronautics
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Boomerangs (was: Re: UL used for sitcom plot)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:38:48 GMT

vkochend@nyx.cs.du.edu (vance kochenderfer) writes:
: >
: >Barring air-friction and assuming a constant speed to the train it should
: >come right back to the thrower.  More likely it will hit some poor old biddy
: >a couple of cars aft.  Of course, that's assuming he can throw one of those
: >damn things properly.
: >
: Of course, the boomerang will not develop any lift from the frictionless
: air and will simply travel in a straight line as it falls to the ground.

Hm, is it the friction which gives the lift - or the greater distance that  
the air has to travel over a curved surface?

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: davew@willow03.cray.com (Dave Wagner)
Subject: Re: Tomorrow's Conspiracy Theory, brought to you today.
Originator: davew@willow03
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 16 Nov 92 11:42:17 CST


In article <1992Nov14.095348.3563@news.columbia.edu>, lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
> 
> This is why periodically we have a call for the abolition of the electoral
> process, and a call for popular vote, since each state has to give all
> of its electorals to one candidate, the results are often quite skewed from
> the popular vote itself.
>
Actually, it's up to the state to determine how to give out it's electorial
votes.  I think two states (Maine was pointed out by CNN during this last
go-around) divide them up by congressional district and by popular vote in
the state.  (i.e. (for Maine) 4 electorial votes get given: 1 for winning each
of the two districts, and 2 for winning the state.  As I remember Perot almost
won one of the districts which would have given him 1 electorial vote, and 
Clinton the remaining 3.

-- 
Dave Wagner                                     Cray Research, Inc
davew@cray.com , uunet!cray!davew               655F Lone Oak Drive
(612) 683-5393                                  Eagan, MN  55121
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: The Empress is Dead
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:09:40 GMT

In article <Bxu0LA.5FC@unx.sas.com> sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com (Bruce Tindall) writes:
>
>Tomorrow (Nov. 17) is the 196th anniversary of the death of
>Catherine the Great.  That's all I have to say; it should be
>sufficient to start a thread of several months' duration.
>
>Bruce "I heard she was nagged to death" Tindall

I heard that Catherine's husband was quite enamored of his toy soldiers,
even playing with them on his wedding night.  One day, in the middle of
a war, he discovered that a rat had gotten into his toy soldier collection
and destroyed several of the soldiers.  According to my history teacher,
Catherine's husband called home all of the army's generals from the front
so that the rat could be court-martialled.

Not as much fun as the stories about the woman who started the Millard
Fillmore society because she had a hamster named Millard, but it's up
there.

Ted "shouldn't this be x-posted to a.s.b?" Frank
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standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.true-crime
From: BORMANN@vm.cc.purdue.edu (Bill Bormann)
Subject: Re: a first year grad student freaks out.
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:28:08 GMT

In article <Bxpuzz.LxE.2@cs.cmu.edu>
smith+@cs.cmu.edu (Sean Smith) writes:
 
>
>26-Oct-89
>
>Vacaville, Calif.- Theodore Streleski, convicted of beating his professor to
>death with a hamer to publicize the plight of graduate students, was freed
>unconditionally from prison yesterday, without promising not to kill again.
>Streleski, 49, who served 7 years and 20 days on a second degree murder
>conviction, spoke briefly with reporters after his release.
>
 
I heard that shortly after this infamous crime, posters bearing the
likeness of Streleski were prominently displayed in quite a few grad
student offices/holding cells on the Stanford campus.
 
Bill Bormann
 
expert.cc.purdue.edu!ad2 (USENET)   | Math Sciences Building
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Stupid Quote
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:41:28 GMT

barry@ute.Columbia.NCR.COM (Barry Shelton) writes:
>Is the following fact or folklore?  If it's fact, can anyone supply a
>reference?
>   When asked why he opposed bilingual education in the Houston
>   public schools, the mayor replied: "If English is good enough
>   for Jesus, it's good enough for our children."

"If the King's English was good enough for good enough for Jesus, it's
good enough for me." -- "Ma" Ferguson, Governor of Texas ca. 1920.
-- 
A liberal is a person whose interests aren't at stake at the moment. -- Player
From: billw@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Tales not for the weak of heart
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:03:25 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: /home/wpwood/.organization

Here's a UL I heard when I was in high school.  As it was told to me,
the sister of a friend of mine was there when it happened, but chances
are that many others have heard variations on it.  Anyway, it's not in
the FAQ, so here goes.
   My friend's sister (so the story goes) was working at the emergency
room in a hospital on an Army base.  One evening, they had a woman 
come in to the emergency room with a number of puncture wounds in her
head.  A few minutes later, a man came in, with an injured penis.
   The hospital staff noticed that these two had the same address and
last name, so they got them together after they had been treated to
find out what had happened.
   The story was that the woman had been felating her husband and started
having an epileptic seizure.  He was unable to force her off of his 
member, and she had no control over her body, so he wound up dragging
her into the kitchen and stabbed her in the head with a fork until she
let go.
   Anyone care to acknowledge/dispute/comment on this.  Makes my skin
crawl just to think about it.
--
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AIX Development       |   Greatest of Warriors, lay wretched and sniveling
512-838-4107          |   in his bed and felt very sorry for himself indeed.
billw@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: styri@hal.nta.no (YuNoHoo)
Subject: Re: Snuff film?
Reply-To: styri@nta.no
Organization: Bohemians and Globetrotters, Unlimited
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:16:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.155402.24297@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, ashall@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Andrew S Hall) writes:
|>
|> It seems like people who deny the existence of snuff films have forgotten about
|> Faces of Death. While no one (that I know of) was killed for the purpose of the
|>  videos, it certainly shows people dying.

Not really, we've just put it in the FAQ to avoid repeating it all the time.

|> Also, I think the arguement should be more centered around the contention
|> of gangs of people who kidnap women and kill them for movies. This certainly 
|> qualifies as a U.L.

Don't forget the women who are drugged, kidnapped and forced to act in porn
movies w/o being killed. There should be loads of them, but they just don't
seem to be able to take these gangsters to court.

|> However, I find it most UNLIKELY that some sicko or sickos 
|> HAVEN'T recorded their atrocities, especially with the easy access to vidoe 
|> equipment these days.

But they have, it's in the FAQ as well.

|> To put in perspective, I know of a few film students who 
|> have killed animals for the purpose of their movies.

They'll probably be hired by Disney...

---
YuNoHoo   "Why do these people WRITE the occational WORD in uppercase?"
From: 150-9704@wwiv.cojones.com (John Garrett #150 @9704)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Yeah, and I think Gladstone....
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 16:41:09 GMT

RE: Re: Can the Prime Minster be Catholic?
BY: davew#willow03.cray.com (Dave Wagner) #1235 @514

was Jewish....
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Car Crime
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 15:10:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.162514.2041@adimail.uucp> tel@adimail.uucp (Terry Monks) writes:
>David L Anderson (v462etnn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu) wrote:
>
>: How does the villian know the frequency used? 
>
>He asks Dan Rather.
I though he asks Herbert what the frequency is?
>
>Terry "Is a villian what English people call a trillion?" Monks

But on the other side of the Chunnel, would it be Francois Villian?

cjl

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: CDs cheaper to make than cassettes?
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:52:48 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <1992Nov20.044155.18500@news.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>In article <NICKEL.92Nov18182206@desaster.cs.tu-berlin.de> nickel@cs.tu-berlin.de writes:
>>In article <1992Nov18.125102.25706@news.columbia.edu>
>>lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>>
>>>                                          ...(This 16-bit 486SX chip,
>>> the 386SX, and the 80286 all have the 16-meg limit due to the 16-bit memory
>>> buss.)
>>
>>One megabyte with each bit? :-)
>>Of course the addresses are 24 bits wide.
>>
>>--
>>Juergen Nickelsen
>
>No joke implied or necessary.
>
>The previous poster muddled up the relevant point.
>
>Intel has confused what the notion of appending "SX" to the end of a
>prevailing design actually means.  It appeared that the poster fell into
>that trap as a result.
>
>In the 386 world, SX means 16-bit smaller version.
>
>In the 486 world, SX means co-processor braind-dead or missing.
>
>But there is this 16-bit 486 chip (non-Intel) that therefore can't be
>easily expressed in this notation.  486SX is what I'd like to call it, but
>that isn't quite right, so it's a 16-bit version of a 486SX is the best
>we can do.
>
>With the exception of the 8086, all of this family's 16-bit buss CPU's
>address a maximum real address space of 16 Megs.

And the Cyrix "486" is not really a 486.

NeXTSTEP/NeXTOS for Intel will only boot on a 486, but it will not boot
on a Cyrix 486.

I can see why the new Intel chip is called Pentium.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Toilet paper: over or under?
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:36:56 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <BxLEtK.70J@news.cso.uiuc.edu> schneid@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Schneider) writes:

>What's the deal?  When you put toilet paper on the roll, is 
>the loose end supposed to go over the top of the roll or come
>from under the roll?

It has to go under, otherwise you can't do the nifty tear-the-perforations-
with-a sharp-one-handed-tug trick, which is necessary to allow you to 
operate the mouse with the other hand..... 

Dave "what about a 3 sided toilet roll holder?" Budd


        Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty

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  D.Budd@mcc.ac.uk                                          fax 6040
From: v462etnn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (David L Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Car Crime
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:22:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov19.150723.28540@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk>, ccaamrg@rs6-svr-2.cls-4.bcc.ac.uk (Mike Gahan) writes...
>In article <1eeumtINNes5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, rxh6@po.CWRU.Edu (Randall Holt) writes:
>|>
>|> I don't know about confirming the existence of the rumor, but I can tell 
>|> you why this unlocking-device is not practical for nefarious purposes. 
>|> I have a similar device which (as the tech specs reveal) is based on a 
>|> specific sequence of 6 1-byte TTL pulses transmitted at some RF frequency 
>|> that is picked up by the reciever in the locking mechanism. That comes to 
>|> 256 to the 6th power possible combinations, or more than 2.81e14 combinations. 
>|>  
>|> If you were transmitting in the RF range, at maybe 50 miliion bits per
>|> second, then you could run through maybe 1 million combinations per second,
>|> and the maximum time to check all combinations would be 2e8 seconds or a
>|> little more than 6 1/2 years. And then you still have to get the Club off
>|> the steering wheel, and hot-wire the ignition.
>|>  
>|> Add to this an additional security measure which exists in the unit on my 
>|> car, a 100 ms delay after a _wrong number_ has been transmitted at the 
>|> correct frequency. Now the delay time is up to greater than 90,000 years. 
> 
>The correspondent slightly misses my point, which is that the device 
>listens for the code broadcast by the car owner. The villain then knows
>the correct code, and need only run through one combination to open
>the vehicle.
> 
Forgive me if this has been discussed already.  The poster above
indicates that a device listens for the code broadcast by the
car owner's xmitr.  This leads to several questions:

How does the villian know the frequency used?  Granted, only
a given range might be used, but then the device must scan all
available frequencies, lock onto the code at the start of
transmission, and hope that the code is transmitted several
times to ensure code is received properly.

How does the device differentiate between spurious data and 
real signal?

How does the device decode the signal?  Ie determine bit-rate,
method of modulation, etc.

Seems like and *awful* lot of work, if you ask me.

David Anderson
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.urban:28778 alt.folklore.computers:16318
From: hees@cubic.com (Phil Hees)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:05:31 GMT
Organization: Cubic Tomato Corp.

In article <1992Nov15.014151.20444@tamsun.tamu.edu> bpb9204@tamsun.tamu.edu
(Brent) writes:
>
>All ATM's I've used have an upper limit of $200 or $300 per day.
>If you need $1000, it'll take you 4 days to do it.

Curious.  In this area (Long Island, NY) the limit is typically $500 per
day.  (And I thought everything was done on a bigger scale in Texas.  :)
Can anyone account for this difference - is it state banking regulations,
relative cost of living, or general randomness?

(BTW, there used to be a lower limit on a single transaction, with a
higher limit for the daily total.  This was finally done away with, a few
years ago - apparently someone who wasn't brain-dead finally realized that
a customer or thief could just perform multiple consecutive withdrawals to
reach the daily total...)

--
Phil Hees
hees@cubic.com
From: datri@egsner.cirr.com (Anthony Datri)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Tomorrow's Conspiracy Theory, brought to you today.
Date: 21 Nov 92 04:08:11 GMT
Organization: Central Iowa (Model) Railroad, Dallas, Tx.

>I remember as an undergrad seeing a talk on Arrow's theorem. Arrow was an
>economist dude who thought about the problem of voting systems. What he
>proved was that he put together a set of things one would hope a voting
>system would do, then proved that this set of desires was mutually
>incompatible. 

I took a symbolic logic course (in the Philosophy department) where the
second half was about Arrow's theorem.  I believe that the statement is
"You can't have an ideally rational democratic aggregation device".  The
idea is that humans aren't rational, they may prefer A to B, B to C, but
C to A.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: ldoering@engin.umich.edu (Laurence Doering)
Subject: Re: Calvin/Hobbes diagnosed as clinical schizophrenic
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 01:54:55 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <amymw.721962605@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> amymw@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Amy Wisotsky) writes:
>
>This probably isn't the place to mention this at all, but as long as
>someone brought it up.....does anyone know the words to the Puff song?
>That was my favorite song as a little kid, and I never new all the
>words.  I've been looking for it on tape for years, but haven't been
>able to find it.  Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Please no flames about how this isn't a music group.

Well, Amy, I think it goes something like this.  Ahem.

	"What rolls downstairs, alone or in pairs
	 Rolls over your neighbor's dog
	 What's great for a snack, and fits on your back
	 It's Log, Log, Log!"

Oh, okay, that's not it.  But, with all the weirdos out there, and
the evils of child abuse and all, I for one have no difficulty
believing that those *could* be the words.

Larry "posting from Catherine MacKinnon's home town" Doering