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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:32:05 +0100
From:         George Welling <welling@FREYA.LET.RUG.NL>
Subject:      the Jonothan Israel debate

First of all I apologize for fosting this message simultaneously on two lists
(emhist-l and c18-l), but I just do not remember on which list the debate
about Israels book was.
On 10-feb-1992 a public discussion in which Israel himself tookk part was held
in Leiden (Nl).  Prof. P.W.Klein, dr. F.S.Gaastra, prof dr. Jan de Vries, dr
Jan Thomas Lindblad and prof. Leo Noordegraaf were the other participants.
In a special edition of the historical magazine Leidschrift the whole
discussion  is documented. Interviews with Israel and De Vries (in English)
and articles by Klein, Gaastra, Lindblad and Noordegraaf are supplemented
with two contributions about prof J.L. van Zanden's book "Arbeid tijdens het
handelskapitalisme. Opkomst en neergang van de Hollandse economie 1350-1850":
a review of this book by prof. Van der Wee and a reaction of Van Zanden to
this review. Then there is also a very good bibliographical documentation of
the whole debate. Alas, except for the interviews with Israel and De Vries the
whole volume is in Dutch. It is volume 1, year 9, september 1992 of
Leidschrift. If some people would be interested in this volume they can
contact me for further information.
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 10:22:18 -0500
From:         james schmidt <jschmidt@ACS.BU.EDU>
Subject: Re: De Marees

In response to Walter Felscher's question of "why Andreas Riem is considered
important enough to be translated" Q
- - The essay is going in a collection of essays from the 1780s on the question
"What is Enlightenment?".  Riem's pamphlet sparked considerable contemporary
interest and is still of some interest in illustrating some of the connections
between religious criticism and political theory in the German Enlightenment.

Thanks, by the way, for your suggestion about De Marees.
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 08:51:22 +0100
From:         George Welling <welling@FREYA.LET.RUG.NL>
Subject:      Re: De Marees, Louis the Great, and the United Colonies
              5, 93 01:08:45 am

> 3.      In a passage which would appear to be about the newly founded United
> States, Riem asks "What brought about the free state of the united colonies?
>  Deception of the English government and deception of the colonies." ["Was
> brachte den Freistaat der verinigten Kolonien hervor? Taeuschung der
> englishcen Ministeriums, und Taeuschung der Kolonien."]  He goes on to
> describe the weakness of the current constitution in which "Every province
> is sovereign, and so every province is by itself powerless!" ["Jede Provinz
> ist souveraen, und also jede fuer sich ohnmaechtig!"].  But was "verinigten
> Kolonien" the term used by Germans in the late 1780s to refer to the "United
> States"?  The passage in question immediately preceeds a discussion of the
> situation in the United Provinces during the Patriot Rebellion, so I want to
> be sure that this isn't also a reference to the Dutch.
>
> Thanks, in advance, for your help.
> James Schmidt
> Boston University
>
It is highly unlikely that the United Provinces would be meant by "verinigten
Kolonien". As far as I know, the word "Kolonien" would never be used for the
Dutch Provinces.

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Date:         Sat, 9 Jan 1993 16:58:38 EST
From:         Jon Butler <JBUTLER@YALEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Commentator on Jonathan Edwards

I can't answer the question,b ut I've forwarded it to the office of the Works
of Jonathan Edwards here at Yale in hope that someone there can help. --Jon
Butler
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:02:01 -0500
From:         BCJ@PSUVM.BITNET
Subject:      Call for Papers: HUMOUR AND LAUGHTER

February 1 1993 is the deadline for proposals for possible presentations at
an annual conference on humour and laughter, in September and October in
Luxembourg.

Contact:  Lawrence W. Sherman, President, International Society for Humour
Studies, Department of Educational Psychology, 120 McGuffey Hall, Miami
University, Oxford, Ohio 45056 USA.  Telephone: (513) 529-6642;  Fax:
(513) 529-7270.
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:35:00 EST
From:         GREETINGS FROM AUGGIE <TODD@GUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ASECS 1994 PROPOSALS

I'm at homwe, trying to schedule my courses for Spring, and I left
some material in my office: would someone be kind enough
to send me the dates of the ASECS meeting this spring in
Providence and thus save me a trip downtown? Thanks in
advance.

Dennis Todd
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Subject:      Call for Papers: Early US History

January 15 is the deadline for proposals for possible presentations at
the annual meeting of the Society for Historians of the Early American
Republic, in July, in Chapel Hill, North Carolina.

Contact Joan E. Cashin, Department of History, Ohio State University,
Columbus, Ohio 43210 USA.
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:57:47 -0500
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Subject:      Call for Papers: perceptions of the male body

January 20 1993 is the deadline for manuscripts on historical and comtempo-
rary perceptions of the male body for possible publication in a special issue
of _Michigan Quarterly Review_.

Contact: Laurence Goldstein, Michigan Quarterly Review, 3032 Rackham Building,
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Mich. 48109 USA.
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 17:32:18 -0500
Reply-To:     dnichol@kean.ucs.mun.ca
From:         dnichol@KEAN.UCS.MUN.CA
Subject:      RE: Endorsement Requested, Thank You for your Help

I RECOMMEND THIS PANEL FOR INCLUSION IN THE 1994 ASECS PROGRAM:

Don Nichol
From: primer@ANDROMEDA.RUTGERS.EDU (Irwin Primer)
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Subject: Re: Dunton's LADIES DICTIONARY
Date: 12 Jan 93 01:31:25 GMT
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I'm glad that N. Paradise has advanced the discussion of N.H., a London
merchant who compiled Dunton's LADIES DICTIONARY (was N.H. another onlie
begetter?).  Does anybody know where an alphabetical list of all of the
London merchants in the 1680's and 1690's can be found?  It may turn out
that he is the archetypal Needle in the Haystack.

Irwin Primer
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 10:27:22 -0500
From:         james schmidt <jschmidt@ACS.BU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: De Marees

Thanks to George Welling for confirming Walter Felscher's suspicions about
De Marees.  Riem was quite interested in affairs in Holland, and devotes a
paragraph of his essay to hailing the Prussian intervention in the Patriot
Rebellion as an example of the "enlightened" policies of the Prussian
foreign ministry.
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Subject: Re: De Marees
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:47:44 GMT
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Simon Ludwig Eberhard de Marees (1717-1802), the latest candidate for Riem's
"De Marees", was also suggested to me by Gail Hueting of the University of
Illinois.  He was a Protestant theologian in Dessau and writer of polemics
and theological works. some of which were published before 1788, although
more came out in the 1790s. A note on him may be found in the ADB, v. 20, p.
310-311.

Thanks to everyone for their help on De Marees.

Soon I promise to try everyone's patience even further with a truly obscure
reference to a story about a Pomeranian catechism pupil in Hamann's letter
on Kant's essay "What is Enlightenment?" .

James Schmidt
Boston University
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From:         NASH@UCS.INDIANA.EDU
Subject:      RE: Disguised Rioting

Do the Mohocks count?  Since their leader was widely reported to bear a
Turkish Crescent engraven upon his forehead, they might be thought of as
disguised and their reputed behavior could well be considered riotous, but
since their existence seems wholly imaginary, are they suitable candidates
for being considered predecessors to their more verifiable Boston cousins?
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From:         "DAVID MCNEIL (DALHOUSIE)" <WARMCN@AC.DAL.CA>
Subject:      Christopher Wren

Can anybody tell me which theatres Wren had a role in designing?
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From:         githeko@UXA.CSO.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      Internet link to Kenya

A group of Kenyans (students & professionals) in the US and elsewhere are
presently trying to get an upgradable connection to Kenya. Initialy it will
be a dial-up but if response is good it will then be possible to hire a
dedicated line and get full Internet services to Kenya.

The system is expected to be commissioned in February and is presently
under test.

A major problem that requires assistance is aquiring low cost 2400+ baud
modems so that institutions in Kenya can hook up to the net. If you know of
places  where new or used Hayes-compartible modems can be obtained at low
cost we would be  happy to have the information.

Please send information or  queries to:

Jason M. Githeko
University of Illinois
1310 S. Sixth St.,#345
Champaign, IL 61820

Phone (217) 244-3573

e-mail: j-githeko@uiuc.edu
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From:         Jin Xuecheng <jxc@MICKEY.EE.NUS.SG>
Subject:      Looking for

Dear Friends:

        How can I contact Dr. Nirupam Sarkar and Prof. B.B.Chaudhuri;
Electronics and Communication Sciences Unit, Indian Statistical Institute,
Calcutta 700035, India;
Authors of "An Efficient Approach to Estimate Fractal Dimension of Textural
Images"?

        Thank you and wish  you a happy new year!

                                                                 Sincerely Yours
,


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how do i get off this list- i've been trying a multitude of things but nothing
has worked----- HELP!!!!

angelica
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From:         Balta <72000.2545@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      STUDENT EXCHANGE PROGRAMS

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON GRANTS OR
WORK/STUDY PROGRAMS AVAILABLE FOR STUDENTS IN THE
BALTIC STATES DESIRING TO STUDY AT A UNITED STATES
UNIVERSITY OR COLLEGE?  PARTICULARLY HELPFUL WOULD
BE PROGRAMS IN NURSING OFFERING PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE
AND MUCH-NEEDED TRAINING IN WESTERN TECHNIQUES AND
USING WESTERN MEDICAL TECHNOLOGY.  I HAVE SEARCHED BUT
HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO FIND ANY FILES REGARDING THIS MATTER
ON THIS LIST.  THANK YOU FOR ANY ASSISTANCE.
BEST REGARDS,
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From:         EdAllan <edallan@CCMAIL.EDC.ORG>
Subject:      S.T. Educ. Consulting in Benin

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     Short Term Educational Consulting in Benin

     In conjunction with a proposal for a USAID project in Benin, Educ.
     Devt. Center is looking for French-speaking educators for short (1-2
     months each) consultancies in: ^^Teacher training; ^^Textbook
     Production; ^^School Planning; ^^Student Assessment and Testing;
     ^^Educ. Finance;  ^^Student Access and Equity; ^^Management of Educ.
     Systems; ^^Community Development and Strengthening of Local NGOs;
     ^^Evaluation and Monitoring; ^^Procurement; ^^Educ. Research.
     Master's or equivalent, 3 years experience in education in LDCs
     (preferably in Francophone Africa), & fluent French are --Minimum--
     requirements.  U.S. citizenship ^NOT^ required.  All qualified
     applicants are encouraged to apply.  e-mail queries are fine.

     Short c.v.'s should be sent to: Ed Allan Education Development Center
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From:         JULIE <JULIE.CPC@MHS.UNC.EDU>
Subject:      grants for study in U.S.

One place to check is the USAID mission (which is probably in the American
embassy).  The U.S. Agency for International Development, through it's
Office of International Training, sponsors students from the Third World to
 come to the U.S. for academic or technical education, in periods ranging
from 1-week seminars to 2 years of academic study.  I used to work for the
Washington contractor that administered this program, and we set up
programs for nurses, firemen, boatbuilders, auditors, teachers, engineers,
and many others.

The scholarships are awarded competitively, and in most countries are
announced in some fashion.  (The decision process may actually be in the
hands of "natives".)  However, it could be that AID is not in place in all
of the former Soviet states yet.  Please be aware that AID is a political
organization, and you would have to receive a large dose of pro-American
propaganda with whatever practical training or education you get!
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Subject:      ftp in Development Economics?

Dear Devel-l subscribers,

I would like to get informations about ftp in development
economics. I am specially interested in papers in rural
development and rural-urban migration in developing
countries.

Thanks,
Ricardo Lima
lima@utkvx.utk.edu
University of Tennessee, Knoxville
(PhD student in Agricultural economics)
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David,
I am interested in the SORSA proceedings. Please provide details for
acquisition.
Joyce Kudolo
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From:         Nick Laflamme <NLAFLAMM@IRISHVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: NNR Installation
              8 Jan 1993 08:04:36 EST from <DEEHRE01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>

RXSOCKET works with only TCP/IP 2.1 and later.  RXTCPIP, an earlier
package, works with some releases of TCP/IP V1 and I think V2 as well.
I think RXSOCKET is considered more robust or flexible or something;
it's being used by many new CMS TCP/IP clients written in REXX,
including TNVT100, the Rice GOPHER client, and my PH client.

You may already have RXSOCKET, especially if you're running Rice's
GOPHER.  Or, if you still are on TCP/IP V1, you might have RXTCPIP.
Basically, if you have one or the other retrieve the appropriate NNR
without the RX* code.  If you have neither, I suggest you take the
package with RXSOCKET if you run TCP/IP V2.  If you have neither and
still run V1, take the package with RXTCPIP in it.

These are mildly ignorant opinions.  :-) Someone might argue more about
the merits of RXTCPIP vs.  RXSOCKET.  I can only report what works for
me.  :-)

Nick

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*
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From: LRL@psuvm.psu.edu (Linda Littleton)
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Date: 7 Jan 93 21:30:41 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

I'll be putting final touches on Netnews 2.5 in the next few days.  I'll
post the details later.  For now I'd like to find a few places to beta
test the new version.  It involves a conversion that splits the NETNEWS
MSGIDS file into multiple files (optional) and that changes all of the
GROUPS files.  Major advantage of 2.5 is it supports the new NNTP server
from BLEKUL11.

If you'd like to beta test it, drop me a note and I'll get back to you
probably in a week or so, once everything is ready.

-Linda
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