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From: Eric Lease Morgan <eric_morgn@ncsu.edu>
Subject: disc golf trivia (was Cool holes)
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X-Xxdate: Fri, 8 Jan 93 10:36:22 GMT
Organization: NCSU Libraries
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:28:57 GMT

In article <4848@moscom.com> Jim Palmeri, jp@moscom.com writes:
>
>To that end, a disc golf trivia question:  What is considered the
>very first disc made specifically for the game of disc golf?  
>Clue: it was not the DGA Night Flyer.  Second clue: it was obscure
>and little used because the Night Flyer came out shortly thereafter.

I'm just taking a stab at this...

Was the firt disc golf frisbee and Aero?

I have an Aero I bought more than 10 years ago. I don't know its name,
but others who have seen it believe it is somewhat of a collector's
item, especially becuase its patent was still pending.
From: CPB004@email.comm.mot.com (Philip Bush)
Subject: Re: Disc Golf
Organization: Motorola, Inc., Schaumburg, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:58:35 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.disc

In article <1993Jan6.154810.164@ncsu.edu>, Eric Lease Morgan
<eric_morgn@ncsu.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> >Hey, are there any Disc Golfers out there?
> 
> Yes! I'm a disc golfer. I live in Raleigh, NC where we have 6 courses
> in the area. I have been playing for about 10 years and have yet to
> get a hole-in-one.  :-(
> 
> Eric Morgan

There are a few of us here in Chicago.  We have about 10 courses within one
hour driving distance.  We have one course close enough to play at lunch. 
I have one hole-in-one (in a tournament, no less!), and my buddy I've
played with for four years got his only hole-in-one on the shot after
mine!!!

The tourneys here usually have 30-40 participants, but only a few are
netters.

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From: dcarta@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (David Carta)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Subject: Tournaments
Summary: A few tournaments west of the Rockies
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:45:04 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

I also am looking to find out about tournaments during the next
four months before the Collegiate Sectionals, Regionals, and
Nationals begin.  Here are the tournaments I know about:

Date		Where		Who
----		-----		---
Jan. 23-24	UCSB		Collegiate
Feb. 6-7	Tempe		Open
Feb. 13-14	UCSD		Collegiate
Feb. 13-14	Hawaii		Open

Rumored:
March 28-29	Davis		Collegiate
April 3-4	Stanford	(open?)

Tucson is also supposed to be having a co-ed tournament, but I can't
tell you what date, besides that it's in March.

If anyone knows more about dates, I'd appreciate the assist.

And if anyone is interested in the UCSD tournament, feel free to
contact me:

Dave Carta	(818) 625-0402		email :  dcarta@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
From: garys@iscp.bellcore.com (Gary Seubert)
Subject: Re: Disc Golf
Organization: Bellcore
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 15:19:28 GMT

In article <4848@moscom.com>, jp@moscom.com (Jim Palmeri) writes:
|> 
|> To that end, a disc golf trivia question:  What is considered the
|> very first disc made specifically for the game of disc golf?  
|> Clue: it was not the DGA Night Flyer.  Second clue: it was obscure
|> and little used because the Night Flyer came out shortly thereafter.
|>     ^^^^^^ 
|>

Simple - the first disc made exclusively for disc golf was the PDGA
mini marking disc!  (the key word in the trivia question is "little")

Gary Seubert
WCFM #60086

P.S. Assuming that's not the answer Jim was looking for, I have no idea
     what the first "full-size" golf disc was.  Maybe the Space Saucer??
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
From: wayne@chiton.ucsd.edu (Wayne Crawford)
Subject: COLLEGIATE tourney in San Diego, Feb 13-14
Organization: MPL of SIO at UCSD
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:30:37 GMT


        Come Join the UCSD Air Squids in their
        7TH ANNUAL WINTER COLLEGIATE TOURNAMENT

WHEN: February 13 and 14, 1993 (Saturday and Sunday of
      President's Day Weekend)

WHERE: University of California, San Diego

WHO: Any COLLEGIATE Ultimate team.  (Students only, but
     they need not be UPA eligible

                FACTS ABOUT THE TOURNAMENT
                --------------------------
This will be a two-day tournament consisting of one day
of general pool play, and one day of quarter-, semi-,
and finals.  The first day will be divided into Open
and Women's games; the second day will have Open A and
B divisions, and a Women's division.

For a one-time tourney fee of $100, you get:
    -Ultimate in (usually) sunny San Diego
    -A chance to check out the collegiate competition
     (the eventual national champion has attended five
     of the tournament's six years)
    -Oranges, bananas, water, music, and party.
    -A tournament program with rosters, maps, and info
    -The chance to explore San Diego and Baja (Monday
     is a holiday)
    -A well-organized, fun tournament

We can only host 16-20 mens teams and 12 women's teams,
so reserve your space now and make travel plans ASAP.

CONTACT: Wayne Crawford
         2409 Geranium St
         San Diego, CA 92109
         (619)270-9220
         email:wayne@mpl.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
From: larkin@typhoon.rice.edu (steven larkin)
Subject: RE: Disc Golf
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 06:00:14 GMT

> >Hey, are there any Disc Golfers out there?

Down here in Houston, we have the Houston Flying Disc Society,
which sponsors various disc sporting events, especially golf.
Unfortunately, there are no local basket courses near Houston
(the closest is 1.5 hours away).  We are diligently working
on the park service to allow us to install one sometime in the 
next year.  In the meantime, we'll continue to tag objects and
an occasional private target.

Steve


Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
From: mummy@stortek.com (Geoffrey A. Hungerford x5385)
Subject: Re: Disc Golf
Organization: StorageTek
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:47:46 GMT

Sorry, I'm new on this net and also not terribly familiar with my xrn tool.  I'll
harass my benevolent system administrator about my rubber address.

I'll try again to post a reply to Jim Palmeri's conundrum about the first disc made 
especially for disc golf:

I believe the first disc manufactured primarily for disc golf was what has been
referred to as the "IFT Super-Pro".  The IFT (International Frisbee Tournament) held in
Marquette, Michigan, included a disc golf event in 1975.  Normally this was a Guts
tournament with some side events like distance.  But in 1975 the official tournament discs
were a yellow 15-mold Pro model (for guts) and a stiff, bulky yellow cross between a 
Super-Pro and what was to become a 50 mold (141g).  That year there were two side events
besides Guts: MTA and Disc Golf.  Since the mutated Super-Pro was not intended for guts
and somewhat useless for MTA, it must have been meant for golf (am I stretching this
or what, Jim).

The IFT Super-Pro was eclipsed only a few weeks later by the first run of 40 and 50 molds
in white plastic with the 1975 Rose Bowl hot stamp.  These discs were quickly touted
as the most stable, longest flying plastic ever available. We used them for golf, although
probably not manufactured primarily for golf, as the 75 Rose Bowl was an overall 
competition and the newly pressed 40 and 50 molds were just the official tourney
disc.  

Sadly, after the advent of 40 and 50 molds, which were poured in translucent plastic
and became '76 Jimmies, the IFT Super-Pro was never to be seen again.  I wonder if the 
original mold was retooled and became the 50 mold.  Anyway, I still have mine.  I only ever
used it in Marquette that year, but it took merciless punishment as I continually
dashed it against several tress (per hole), a few rocks and a two-lane highway.  I would
absolutely treasure one in mint condition.  Is there any kind soul out there who has one
and might be willing to trade?  I have some trading stock that might tempt you.

Geoff Hungerford, #688
From: marino@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: AFL News up to Tuesday 12/1/1993
Date: 12 Jan 93 11:48:28 +1100
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

The AFL News up to Tuesday 12/1/1993.
-------------------------------------

 Hello once again. There is only one month until the footy season starts again
with the Foster's Cup pre-season competition. In the meantime the main news has
been about Peter Daicos of Collingwood. On Thursday he announced his retirement
from football because Collingwood coach Leigh Matthews wanted to play him off
the interchange bench because of his age. After much discussion over the weekend
he announced his retirement was short-lived and he will play in whatever capa-
city the club requires him. Daicos has played 245 games for Collingwood from
1978.

 In other news, the AFL Player's Association may still call on its members to
strike during the Foster's Cup. The AFL has not given much notice to the AFLPA's
log of claims which include 10% of TV rights and merchandising, a seat on the
AFL Commission, changes to the standard player contract dropping the club's
option clause, the draft and the salary cap. In further news:

 - Fitzroy has terminated Brendan McCormack from his contract with the club. The
   club and McCormack are in dispute over missed training seasons and penalty
   fines. McCormack has stated he missed them nbecause of business reasons but
   the club will not accept this.

 - Ex-St.Kilda full forward George Young has joined the West Coast Eagles as a
   selector. Young has been involved with the Subiaco club in WA in a football
   administrative capacity for the last 8 years.

 - Sydney's Neil Cordy will continue with the Swans in 1993 in his last season
   of football. Cordy had said he would return to Footscray but negotiations
   fell through.

 - The VFA will become Victoria's main competition in 1994. The current VSFL
   competition (reserves for the AFL teams) will dissolve and the AFL will prune
   team lists to 40 players.

 That's enough for now. All the best.

John Marinopoulos

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From: gsl@mlb.dmt.csiro.au (Geoff Lamb)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Football team in Carlton area to play for
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:38:49 GMT
Organization: CSIRO Division of Manufacturing Technology, Melbourne, Australia


Hi,

I am looking for a football team to play with this season in the Carlton or 
inner Melbourne area. I played with Blackburn (Eastern Districts Div 2 ) last 
season but they are too far out of town (the teams we played against were even 
further out.) Before that I was playing for Walkerville in Adelaide (SAFA and 
then Amateur league.)

If anyone out there in net land plays for a good team (Melbourne Uni would be 
good) or knows of a team that I could play for then could you please send me 
e-mail letting me know how to get in contact with people, when the training 
starts, what league they are in, what standard they expect me to be, etc.

Thanks in advance,

Geoff
-- 
Geoff Lamb, CSIRO Div of Manufacturing Tech,     Phone: +61 3 487 9295
Locked Bag No. 9, Preston, Vic, 3072, Australia. Fax: +61 3 484 0878
Internet: gsl@mlb.dmt.csiro.au                  
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
From: dunae@mala.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc
Subject: Australian Rules
Date: 7 Jan 93 00:21:56 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

Re: Australian Rules Football (Footy)

Can anyone tell me where I can find news about the AFL (Australian 
Football League)?  Last year, I seem to recall, there were many
notices re: the manly game of footy - including news of the West
Coast Eagles' glorious win in the 1992 Grand Final - in this news-
group.  Where are they now?  I've searched my directory under
the likely headings, but can't find anything on Australian Rules.
(I realize that the AFL season is over, but footy can be a year
round topic, no?!)  Any news about the whereabouts of Aussie Rules
News would be appreciated.-- 

***********************************************************************
Patrick A. Dunae
History Department                    Phone:  (604) 753-3245 (loc 2130)
Malaspina University College          FAX:    (604) 741-2667
Nanaimo, B.C., Canada V9R 5S5         INTERNET:  dunae@mala.bc.ca
From: jkwst5+@pitt.edu (Joseph   K Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc
Subject: Aussie Rules Football
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:34:39 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

For the person who recently asked, we have rec.sport.football.australian
listed here at Pitt, I would assume you would have it there too.
From: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc
Subject: Who am I?
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 21:10:44 EST
Reply-To: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue)
Organization: Deep In The Heart Of The South!


  I'm the only coach in history to go straight 
  from the White House to the outhouse!

  Who am I?

  email for the answer!

  bill

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From: doug@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Doug Risher)
Subject: Video Football Games
Organization: Okcforum Unix Users Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:42:16 GMT

I was wondering if anyone knew a FTP site for some good graphic football games?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: WILLIAM.S.BILL.W.ZUK@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("William S. Zuk")
Subject: M. Graves  (Was: Miami Strategy?)
Organization: WLI
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:19:11 GMT




tpp@cbnews.cb.att.com (thomas.p.pschar) writes in message
            <1993Jan4.162214.16975@cbnews.cb.att.com>,

>Here's the real question.  Why didn't Miami stack about eight guys on the
>line of scrimmage every down during the second half?  Or was somebody actually
>afraid Alabama might pass?
>
>(By the way, I was rooting against Torretta, since I don't think he in any way
>deserved the Heisman.)
>
>Looking forward to Marvin Graves' Heisman year...
>                   !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Tom Pschar


Actually, the '93 Heisman hype for Graves started during the Fiesta Bowl
telecast.  Don't get your hopes up though, Tom.  Last time I checked,
Marvin wasn't suiting up for Notre Dame (or, for that matter, Miami).

No doubt about it, Marvin Graves was a bonafide superstar this year.
For some reason, the national media attention that went Syracuse's way
was always focused on Qadry Ismail.

BTW, anyone notice how every time they interviewed Raghib Ismail on
the sidelines, some really big play immediately ensued for SU?

Looking forward to another Kirby Dar Dar year -

Bill Zuk

(ps - Shelby Hill has decided not to enter the NFL draft this year
      and will remain at Syracuse.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: aggie@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu (I R A Aggie)
Subject: Something totally different, but bowl related
Followup-To: poster
Organization: An Ol Ag surrounded by a bunch of unfriendly Seminoles
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 23:56:56 GMT

I would like to put together a database of addresses and phone 
numbers of the various bowls. This is with an eye towards people
obtaining bowl tickets without being affiliated with a particular
school.

I have the Sugar Bowl's information, but would like to expand that
to include *all* bowls. Naturally, I'll make this information
freely available to the net.

The followups line has been set to poster, so theoretically all
replies will show up in my mailbox.

James - 3 years, 3 NYD bowls attended
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: hoff@leland.Stanford.EDU (Christopher Eric Hoffman)
Subject: Re: Ohio St (national merit scholars) Wussconsin
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 02:06:55 GMT

In article <63197@mimsy.umd.edu> sjsmith@cs.umd.edu (Stephen Joseph Smith) writes:
>
>[My almanac is 1991.  All figures date from then.  Guess it's time to get a
>new almanac.]
>					Enrollment
>Michigan State University		42,695
>Ohio State University			40,122
>University of Michigan --- Ann Arbor	35,216
>Purdue University			29,674
>University of Wisconsin --- Madison	29,625
>University of Minnesota --- Twin Cities	29,278
>
>- Stephen

Something is really wrong with these figures.  UW has about 43,000 students
and Ohio State has somewhere in the neighborhood of 55,0000.  Minnesota
is also very low.  My guess is figures for these three schools are only 
undergraduates.

-- 
Chris Hoffman					Stanford University
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tjb@emt.b17c.ingr.com (Tony Bowman)
Subject: Re: Some thoughts on the Sugar Bowl from a Miami fan
Reply-To: tjb@emt.b17c.ingr.com  
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:03:46 GMT

|> I was surprised by how many Alabama fans left the game early.  The stadium
|> seem half full by the middle of the fourth quarter.  I would think most
|> fans would have stayed until the end of the game to see their team
|> celebrate.  Last year at the Orange Bowl, the stadium was still full
|> when the game ended (except for the Nebraska section).
|> 
	The only fans I saw leave, in all sincerity, were Miami fans. I 
	was in the Miami section, true, and it was all but empty by
	half way through the fourth quarter.  I didn't SEE any Bama
	fans leave. That's not to say they didn't.   Could have been
	to get to Bourbon St. early !!!  What a party !!

|> Well, Bama fans, enjoy your championship.  Miami will be playing for #1
|> again next year, will you?
|> 
	I certainly hope so.  But isn't it alittle early to be predicting
	your next humiliation? 8^)  Roll on ...
|> -- 
|> 
|> Tony L. Fernandez
|> 
|> Racal-Datacom, Network Management         Phone: (305) 846-6553
|> 1601 N. Harrison Parkway                  INET : tonyf@sun1.interlan.com
|> Sunrise, FL 33323-2899                    
|> 
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|>              1993 Florida Marlins Opening Day Countdown:  127 days             
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: SCHMIDT@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jon Schmidt)
Subject: Re: TAMU Secret Weapon
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:32:14 GMT

In article <1iahjhINNr17@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
sbscafg@sdd.hp.com (sbscafg) writes:
>I am very sad about the game, but (as I said last year)," just wait!"  We
>are SLOWLY making a climb to be a top team, and I have feeling next year
>will be a big step in the positive direction!
>
>sbscafg
 
I, too, have been able to detect the nearly imperceptible improvement
in aTm's performance.  In last year's Cotton Bowl aTm only scored two
points, but this year they managed to score three points.  Next year,
assuming the Cotton Bowl isn't forced by the Coalition to select the
highest ranked team available, I expect aTm to continue its slow (OK,
VERY slow) progress and score four points.  Just be patient, aggies.
 
-- 
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(303) 673-3581 - voice   2270 South 88th Street
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: niebuhr@bnlux1.bnl.gov (david niebuhr)
Subject: Re: Final AP Poll
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:51:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.125048.6704@dbsun.uucp> harbison@dbsun.uucp (harbison) writes:
>	Rank   School              Record   Points
>	------------------------------------------
>	  13   Colorado             9-2-1      818
>	  14   Nebraska             9-3-0      771

How in Aunt Fannie's Corset can Nebraska be ranked lower than Colordo?
Nebraska thoroughly beat Colorado in the regular season and both lost
in bowl games.  In addition, there's the Buffs tie to Oklahoma.

First there was the perennial bias against the Huskers in the electronic
media starting with ABC and Keith Jackson, now it's the voters.  I would
have reversed the positions and possibly put the Huskers at #11.

Dave

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Dave Niebuhr      Internet: niebuhr@bnl.gov / Bitnet: niebuhr@bnl
Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton, NY 11973  (516)-282-3093
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
Subject: Colorado recruiting news (oral commitments)
Reply-To: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com
Organization: Buffalo Stampede
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:39:57 GMT

Archbishop Carroll HS (Washington, D.C.) teammates LB Desmond Dennis and
WR Phillip Savoy have committed to CU.

Savoy is 6-4, 185, and caught 45 passes for 10 TDs this year.  Dennis
announced his intent on Christmas Eve, so I must have missed his size
and stats.  CU has received five oral committments for their 18 open
scholarships.
-- 
Kevin Rodgers				kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com
Martin Marietta MS A16401		(303) 790-3971
116 Inverness Dr. East
Englewood CO 80112 USA			GO BUFFS!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: gibson@b11.b11.ingr.com (Stanley)
Subject: Re: Alabama v. Miami
Reply-To: gibson@b11.b11.ingr.com (Stanley)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:25:00 GMT

In article <93004.123631JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu> <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>In article <1992Dec10.182806.22073@b11.b11.ingr.com> gibson@b11.b11.ingr.com
>(Stanley) writes:
>>
>
>Using the same argument in PAC10 (with top three teams )
>
>UW > 30 over Stanford
>Stanford > 30 over Wash. State
>Wash, State > 20 over UW
>
>so much for transitivity!
>
>Miami over Alabama by 2 TD! You heard it here first, folks.
>
>Njan
>
>
>Do tell.
>
>
>Sorry guys, but I've been holding myself back for too long.  Alabama
> showed Miami what a grade A butt-whuppin is like, and left no doubt
>as to who the #1 team in the nation is.
>
>Jim Thomas

Most news readers warn: Be sure to double-check the attribution against the signature

Your post here makes it look like I predicted miami over bama. For
the record my posted prediction was bama 20-13.
Roll Tide!!