From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Cliff Weston)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cops show- Motorcycle wreck
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:45:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia
Originator: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU

In article <1992Jul20.203602.214@halfdome.sf.ca.us>, laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us
 (Laurie Abbott) politely writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.212405.6601@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston) writes:
>> know nothing's coming.  all you need is one young female with her lights
>> off and you're paying the price for running the stop :-) 
>you know, i guess i'm going to have to flame you for this.  statistics
>collected in the past fifteen years by car insurers (and their
>statistics are damn well done when corporate profits are on the line)
>show that female drivers-- both the young ones like the victim of your
>post, and old ones like me-- are better drivers than the males in
>their age brackets.

pardon me, but insurance companies don't look at who's a _better_ driver,
merely at who's a _less-costly_ driver.  the two are not intertwined.

>the dui ratio for men to women is seven to one;
>that a two-time dui will be male goes to fourteen to one.

you'd think the rate for two-time offenses would be much higher than two-
fold greater, statistically and behaviorally speaking.  and see my earlier
post about the friend's sister getting out of tickets even when drunk.

>the sex of
>the person at fault in a fatal accident is 3 times more likely to be
>male than female. those who get speeding tickets for less than 25
>miles over the limit are pretty evenly divided; but those who get
>speeding tickets for going MORE than 25 miles over the limit-- say,
>going 90 in a 55, not even nominal DoD--are almost all male (98%). 

again i mention the effect of disparity in miles driven/unit time (obviously,
the guys here are covering more miles/hour, but that's not what i meant!).
if men are behind the wheel more total miles than women, they are more
likely to be ticketed for the same offense because of exposure, even given
the same degree of driving skill.  this is an argument for higher rates for
high-mileage drivers, even though they're generally better drivers than the
rest of us.  again, too, must i mention that all men are pigs (shameless
pandering there for laurie) and that they are more aggressive behind the wheel.
i've only done 115mph tops (acura integra, stright and deserted road, could
have gone 120+ but needed to run off the speed before the straight ended);
maybe the slower drivers (men and (mostly) women) realize their limitations
and never attempt what would be for them a mistake.  even then, did these
speeders have costly accidents?  the speeding alone doesn't make them risky
to the ins company, unless they hit something/one.


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