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From: moconnor@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Making BackSpace Work!
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:55:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: ef2007.1992Apr15.125543.16056
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Organization: "Fordz"
Disclaimer: Not an official spokesperson for Ford Motor Co.

In article <1992Apr14.213323.24942@crash.cts.com> uzun@crash.cts.com (Roger Uzun) writes:
:In vi all works fine, only in csh (my default shell) do things
:go wierd.   If I type either delete or backspace, it interprets
:
:What am I missing?

You're missing tcsh.  If your csh is giving you problems, my strong
recommendation is to replace it with tcsh and restore sanity to your
life.  If I recall, tcsh 6.01 was compiled for your type of machine, 



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From: cudcv@warwick.ac.uk (Rob McMahon)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Much Ado about Nothing: white space and sh and csh
Keywords: csh sh test expr
Date: 11 Apr 92 13:47:39 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK

In article <1992Apr9.170633.13857@quando.quantum.de>
steimann@exquando.quantum.de (Ulrich Steimann) writes: 
>Have you ever tried:
>	$ for for in in do; do echo echo done; done

One that really is annoying is

$ set a b c
$ for i
> do echo $i; done
a
b
c
$ for i; do echo $i; done
syntax error: `;' unexpected
$ uname -a
SunOS clover 4.1.2_ER 8 sun4m
$ 

Does anyone know how widespread this bug is ?  I notice bash is okay.

Rob
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From: sconnoll@pluto.csee.lehigh.edu (Sean Connolly)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: what happened to ftp.uu.net?
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:15:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: chili.1992Apr07.211553.46770
Reply-To: sconnoll@pluto.csee.lehigh.edu
Organization: Lehigh University

In article 29942@adm.brl.mil, COTRCSBK@sea04vm.navsea.navy.mil (Stephen B. Kutzer) writes:
>
>Not completely germane to UNIX, but does anyone know what happened
>at ftp.uu.net?  I used to be able to anonymous ftp to this site.  Now,
>all I ever get is anonymous logon rejected.  Any ideas?
>
>
>Stephen B. Kutzer  703-769-2900
>I-NET, Inc.        cotrcsbk@sea04vm.navsea.navy.mil


     Just tried it right now and had no problem.  No idea why it rejected you.
Do you have a problem anonymous ftp-ing to other sites?

-Sean Connolly
sfc0@pl118c.cc.lehigh.edu
sconnoll@pluto.csee.lehigh.edu
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From: uzun@crash.cts.com (Roger Uzun)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Making BackSpace Work!
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:33:23 GMT
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

I am using a Concurrent VME based Unix system, and no matter
what I do I cannot get the backspace or DELETE key to fuinction
in the C shell (csh).  I set my TERM and TERMCAP vars correctly,
do a :
stty erase ^H
when i type tset it tells me erase is set to ^H but it does
not recognize ANY character as a backspace, rubout, erase
whatever you want to call it.  TERM is set to vt100, for what
that is worth, TERMCAP to /etc/termcap

In vi all works fine, only in csh (my default shell) do things
go wierd.   If I type either delete or backspace, it interprets
them as characters, for example if I type ls^H^H then press return,
it should just give me back the prompt, but instead it tells me
no such command, ls^H^H, the same for delete but it thinks
delete is ^?.

Any ideas on what to put in my .login file to make it work,
I have 

stty crt
stty erase ^H
setenv TERM vt100
setenv TERMCAP /etc/termcap
tset



What am I missing?

-Roger
From: tsui@imec.be (Mung Laam Tsui)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: A Request for Source Code
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:35:22 GMT
Organization: IMEC vzw, 3030 Leuven, Belgium


Hallo,

Could somebody provide me the source code of the UNIX command 'at'.
Many thanks in advance.

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From: umunk@uqun51.sni.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: question on using vi on nroff output with underlining
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:06:57 GMT

admn@quads.uchicago.edu (Bonnie J. Black) writes:


>	I am trying to fix a file that was written using nroff.  There
>is a word which is underlined in nearly 700 places in the file.  I need
>to eliminate the underlining.  I would like to be able to do this using
>a global replace, but I don't know how.  In vi, the underlined word
>"Bulletin" looks like this:  _^HB_^Hu_^Hl_^Hl_^He_^Ht_^Hi_^Hn.  Of
>course, if I try to do a replace from the command and I type Control-H,
>it just goes back a space.  Can anyone help me?

Type Control-V, and then Control-H.
And you should read a little bit in your vi manual :-)

>Thanks,

You are welcome.
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From: vsnyder@math.jpl.nasa.gov (Van Snyder)
Subject: Re: ? redirect a file opened in a fortran program
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 21:09:38 GMT

In article <edsall.702342883@pv7411.vincent.iastate.edu> edsall@iastate.edu (David M Edsall) writes:
>  Better yet, don't even define the name in the program. If you wish to
>redirect output from unit 10 to a file just do
>
>   ln -s fort.10 <file>
>
>  fort.10 is the generic name given to unit 10 by the f77 compiler. We do this
               >-----------------------------------^^^

You mean there's only one, on all Un*x platforms?

>   Hope this helps,

Only if we have the same compiler and/or platform as you do.
-- 
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From: thomson@zarda.macc.wisc.edu (Don Thomson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: How to determine originating host in .cshrc
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:33:36 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

Obviously UNIX knows what host you're coming from when you log in, as this
information appears in a number of places (last, finger, who, etc.).  In what
form is this information available?  The goal is to be able to use it in a
.cshrc file to take specific actions based on which host you're logging in
from.
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From: steve@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU (Steve E. Goldsmith)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Where to find BSD for a uVAX?
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:22:50 GMT
Organization: University of Maine Department of Computer Science


  Anyone know where one can find the BSD distribution for a uVAX
these days?

  Thanks much,
/Steve
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: fitzgb@mml0.meche.rpi.edu (Brian Fitzgerald)
Subject: Re: Help with 'find' and escape sequences
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 05:39:56 GMT

Brien Brian Oberstein writes:
>I'm having a problem getting find to execute a "rm -i *~" in every subdir.
>I tried many combinations, mostly along the lines of :
>
>alias allcl "find . -type d -ok rm -i {}\/\*~ \;"

One rm per directory?

Here's the best I could come up with.

find -type d -exec sh -c "rm -i "{}"/*~" \;

(I assume you realize that find . -type f -name "*~" -exec rm -i {} \;
could accomplish the job, too.)

Brian
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: brien@irk.ugcs.caltech.edu (Brien Brian Oberstein)
Subject: Help with 'find' and escape sequences
Keywords: find
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 01:53:23 GMT

I'm having a problem getting find to execute a "rm -i *~" in every subdir.
I tried many combinations, mostly along the lines of :

alias allcl "find . -type d -ok rm -i {}\/\*~ \;"

but it checks seems execute rm -i /*~ in each directory.

brien.
From: spm2d@topaz.cs.Virginia.EDU (Steven P. Miale)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: User lockout question
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:36:53 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department

>In article <1992Apr9.153405.9198@tc.cornell.edu> dailey@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (John H. Dailey) writes:
>> Does anyone know of a way to lockout a user account that has N failed
>>login attempts (in a row) against it. In other words, a way to make that account
>>inactive until an administrator has a chance to investigate.  While the
>>platforms will be Sun Sparc-2's I would prefer a vanilla UNIX solution
>>if possible. Thanks in advance.
>
One problem: with that system, I can lock out *any user* just by
doing login attempts enough times. Heck, I could probably
write a shell script to lock out ALL the users; all I would
need is the /etc/passwd file.

Of course, locking out "root" would probably cause the most
damage...



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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.misc
From: tpaquette@ita.lgc.com (Trevor Paquette)
Subject: Re: Summary of Auspex Experiences
Organization: Landmark/ITA Inverse Theory and Applications
	<TPAQUETTE.92Apr16083614@ibm.ita.lgc.com>
	<59Fw022R105Y01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:40:52 GMT

In article <59Fw022R105Y01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> jll40@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Jonathan L Lemon) writes:

>In article <TPAQUETTE.92Apr16083614@ibm.ita.lgc.com> tpaquette@ita.lgc.com (Trevor Paquette) writes:
>>In article <3f9O028w10yQ01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> jll40@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Jonathan L Lemon) writes:
>>
>>> We also have an Auspex here at Amdahl, and haven't really had any problems
>> ...
>>> However, there is one sticking point that I currently have with the Auspex --
>>> it won't work with the amd automounter.  Something about it causes the Auspex
>>
>>  Have you tried the latest version of AMD? 5.3 beta I believe.
>> Available on usc.edu in pub/amd

>Hmm... no.  I'm still using 5.3 Alpha.  Does the Beta version fix the
>problem?

 No idea.. just wondered if you tried it. Maybe someone from Auspex should
give it a try? Anyone from Auspex reading this??
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From: thad@public.BTR.COM (Thaddeus P. Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Non-tar tape to tape copy
Date: 6 Apr 92 11:57:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, Mountain View CA

In article <1992Mar31.080935.14194@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> craig@anderson.austin.ibm.com (Craig Anderson) writes:
>In article <6111@public.BTR.COM> thad@public.BTR.COM (Thaddeus P. Floryan) writes:
>>In article <1992Mar27.201225.6533@IDA.ORG> wood@IDA.ORG (Jonathan Wood) writes:
>>>Can anyone tell me how to make a copy of a non-tar tape?
>>>[...]
>>[...]
>[...]
>from the *network*, not the tape.  This is fast, and it works:
>
>  rsh remhost dd if=/dev/nrst0 bs=64k | dd of=/dev/nrst0 ibs=512 obs=64k
>
>>Repeat the above command n times, where "n" is the number of savesets on your
>>original tape. The "?bs" assumes QIC tape whose physical blocking is 512 bytes
>[...]

Sorry, but your example is essentially what everyone attempts, and fails, in
their attempts to duplicate the type of tape for which I had the need to write
the tprobe program.

As others have commented in the comp.sys.sun.* newsgroups, their attempts
to duplicate a SunOS tape (a la your example) required two tapes.  They were
unable to put the original 59.3MB onto another DC600A type because that example
with dd(1) constantly writes multiples-of-64K logical records onto the tape
whereas boot/install tapes' LOGICAL records are typically not a multiple of
32K, 64K or anything else "reasonable".  I've seen LOGICAL record sizes on
boot tapes range from 3 blocks on up, all on the same (original) tape.

I just 40 minutes ago tried your example, and it has that same problem; I
had to abort it when a second tape was needed to duplicate a single (original)
tape.  I'm sure you'll agree that is not an acceptable solution.

My tprobe made an EXACT copy, one tape onto one tape (requiring 16 minutes).

Lest anyone get the wrong idea, I'm *NOT* making any "Claimes of Magicke" for
tprobe.  It's actually a simple program.  But it solves a need that is NOT
served by existing software; the closest to it is copytape (circa 1986 in
the comp.sources.{unix | misc} archives) which requires one to have sufficient
HD space to contain a complete image of the tape (its purported claim to copy
over a pipe doesn't work correctly since it (copytape) doesn't check for
whether it received the entire requested amount with, say, a read(2).

dd(1) is great for duping tar- and/or cpio-written tapes; dd(1) is NOT the
solution for duping arbitrary boot/install tapes.

tprobe DOES precisely dupe boot/install tapes; that's its sole raison d'etre.

Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com (OR) {decwrl, mips, fernwood}!btr!thad ]
From: anibal@ee.mcgill.ca (Anibal Jodorcovsky)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: how do I check the version I am runnning on?
Date: 14 Apr 92 04:22:13 GMT
Organization: Undergraduate UNIX Lab, EE, McGill University
Originator: anibal@wiley.EE.McGill.CA

I know this has been asked before but I didn't take it down
when it was first asked.
How do I check the version of Unix I am running?

Thanks in advance!


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From: cs000hf@selway.umt.edu (Hong Fan)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: rcp problem. error:Where are you
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:57:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Montana


Does somebody know the follow question related with rcp?

When I try to rcp file from machine1(Sparc) to my corrent login machine2
(DEC5000). It replies "Where are you" and won't copy file. Both machines have 
the remote name on my .rhosts file. 

Please mail to me:cs000hf@selway.umt.edu if you know the answwer. Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: cpearce@morticia.cnns.unt.edu (Chris Pearce)
Subject: Unix question - libraries
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:19:58 GMT

My site recently upgraded from HPUX 7.x to HPUX 8.0. However, 
I now have trouble compiling some programs that used libraries
that were available under HPUX 7.x and have been renamed or
removed from HPUX 8.0. How can I find the correct libraries?

When I compile, the cc compiler tells me which symbols have no
references, but I still haven't been able to put that info to
use.

The libraries I used to use are: -lX11 -lXr11 and -lpc.

The X11 library used to be in /usr/lib, but now it is in /usr/lib/X11 --
that's the one library I think I've found.

The Xr11 library used to be in /usr/lib, but now it is not in any
subdirectory of /usr/lib...

The pc library apparently causes something weird to happen under HPUX
7.0 -- I can't find any files named libpc.a or libpc.sl in my old system.
But I realize I probably have an incomplete understanding of what occurs
when the -l option is used.

Thanks.

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From: csubio@NCoast.ORG (Jerome B. Senturia)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: UNIX equiv. of CLS for ATT605?
Summary: Use  tput clear
Date: 11 Apr 92 16:21:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: NCoast.1992Apr11.162104.6910
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH


The command   tput clear  should clear your screen if you $TERM variable
is set and ATT605 is in your terminfo  and/or  termcap files.
From: jik@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: AWK question - little one
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:34:43 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <ku1qr6INN790@phad.hsc.usc.edu> rpinder@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Rich Pinder) writes:

   I have a large datafile with the pipe sign as field seperators.  The file
   is arranged in groups of similar data, with the first record of each such
   group containing a value that identifys the group.

   It turns out that the third field can either be 1) a string value - which
   is actually an area code, or 2) a blank field.  So if we read in anything
   for the third field I want to append it to each subsequent record in its
   corresponding group - when I again read a record with the third field 'not
   blank', I'll use this new value for the next group.

Another comp.unix.questions moral for the day: When yu are posting a
question of this sort to the net, then give ACTUAL EXAMPLES of what
you are trying to do.  Words are not precise enough to actually tell
us exactly what you're trying to do and exactly what your data look
like.

For example, when you say "blank," what do you mean?  Do you mean
there is absolutely nothing in the field, or that there are blank
spaces in it?  Are they actually spaces, or a TAB?  You show spaces in
the example awk code you posted, but I have no idea whether to believe
that or to believe that you are making a mistake.

   here are a couple of lines which show my initial (uncorrect) logic.... 

   awk -F '|' ' {

	   if ($3 !~ "        ") code=$3;
	   printf ("%s %s \n",$1,code);

		   } ' $*

There are at least two problems with this.

First of all, there should be no space after the -F and before the
'|'.

Second, the string "        " is not a regular expression, it's a
string.  When using !~, you must match against a regular expression.

I got your script to work with this data file:

a|b|c|d|e|f
g|h||i|j|k
l|m||n|o|p
q|r|s|t|u|v
w|x||y|z|aa

By changing it to this:

   awk -F'|' ' {

	   if ($3 !~ /^[ 	]*$/) code=$3;
	   printf ("%s %s \n",$1,code);

		   } ' $*

Note that there are a space and a tab inside those square braces.
That match sets code if $3 has at least one non-whitespace character
in it.

   Since AWK seems to be particularily suited for doing almost automatic input
   handling, I'm not sure if this is something that can be easily done in AWK,
   but I thought I'd ask before I make that assumtion.....

It's "assumption."

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From: cmenser@isis.cs.du.edu (Charles Menser)
Subject: How to re-format an ESDI dirve on a MicroVaxII
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 00:03:17 GMT

	Hello, could someone advise me on how I can re-format, low and high-
level, a hard drive on a MicroVaxII?

	The drive is an ESDI, and as far as I can tell, there is/was (supposed 
to be a formating program on the distribution taep (TK50). However I can ont
locate it.

	Please direct me to an ftp site where such a program can be obtained,
or some advice?

	Also, please direct email to: cmenser@vyonuos.kennesaw.edu


				Many Thanks,
				Charles

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From: adams@pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de (Adams)
Subject: Re: Question for net.views column in UNIX Today!
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:57:43 GMT
	<1992Mar29.054350.2052@visix.com>
	<STEINARB.92Apr1104825@tindved.idt.unit.no>
	<1992Apr1.161010.11988@auto-trol.com>
	<ADAMS.92Apr1235516@PDV2.pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de>
	<1992Apr6.034739.28093@alphalpha.com>
Organization: TH-Darmstadt

In article <1992Apr6.034739.28093@alphalpha.com> nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley) writes:

>   In article <ADAMS.92Apr1235516@PDV2.pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de> adams@pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de (Adams) writes:
>   >Most customers I know of run their own electronic and mechanical
>   >workshop to repair their own equipment. In a comparable manner they
>   That is *not* the typical commercial customer by a long shot.
>   That's not even the typical technical customer for workstations.
>   If you restrict your market to a small enough customer base you
>   can say that *anthing* will survive.  I'm sure there are still
>   people using CPM.  But that's not the kind of survival that most
>   of us are depending on.
>
>   -- 
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>   nazgul@alfalfa.com              |       Send Anything... Anywhere
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I was talking about such little companies like :
	Roehm Pharma, Darmstadt,
	Merck Pharma, Darmstadt (yeah, mother of Merck Inc. of America ),
	Quelle Fuerth, (greatest mail order trust in Germany, about
		60.000.000.000 DM/year trade volume and running
		an own network).
	add as you like VW, Mercedes Benz .....

Sure they need not be a typical customer, but they define terms of business
by their sheer power and budget ;-<.

>   I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
>   responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
>   everyone else's.

I am not sure which upsets me more, people knowing nothing or taking their
wish for reality.

keeping up a strange opinion, adams





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