HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: 3808@b30.ingr.com (Barry Wilson)
Subject: A riddle...
Keywords: I need tickets
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 14:09:37 GMT

Here's a riddle for you....

What is red and white and green and still needs tickets
to the game?

Answer:  Me. I'll pay cash for two tickets. (thats the green part)


"Hey Canes, feel the Pain."

Barry
730-3384
From: Tom.Foolery@p0.f7.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tom Foolery)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: stupid addresses!
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 93 16:15:00 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/7.0 - The Trading Post, Huntsville AL

Leah,
   Those are internet addresses, the only thing in his header that you 
need to worry about is the From: field, that is his address.

The rest of the 'garbage' is added by mail handling programs, akin to 
the postal canceling stamp on your mail. I.E. Gives info on how the 
message got to you, but is not needed to reply.

I have some documents that show how to get between different networks 
with 1 line addresses, I will post them when I get back to Boeing.

TF



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Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: virus
From: gary@cdthq.UUCP (Gary Heston)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 22:08:17 CST
Organization: Garys' Home for Obsolete Computers

Scott.Burgett@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Scott Burgett) writes:

> Another note about my friend who got the virus on his hard drive. 
> He was running some programs (and yes, he didn't scan any of them 
> for viruses) and suddenly his DOS commands were disappearing from 
> the drive.  He figured out what virus it was and erased using McAfee's 
> Virus Scanner and Clean-Up.  But he was still having problems with 
> his hard drive, so I am assuming he didn't clear his hard drive 
> completely of the virus.

Recent version of McAfee have been *terrible* at properly
identifying viruses; without an accurate identification, it's
virtually impossible to succeed at cleanup attempts.

Dump McAfee and use F-Prot. Much more accurate, fast, and works
well.

It's also possible that he had a multiple infection; those can
cause wierd problems, including making the hard drive unbootable
by destroying the MBR.

Gary Heston, at home....
gary@cdthq.uucp
Newsgroups: hsv.general,ingr.general
From: 3808@b30.ingr.com (Barry Wilson)
Subject: Re: Will pay $400 for Sugar Bowl Tickets
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:41:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.162325.11242@infonode.ingr.com> hovanesk@infonode.ingr.com (Bonehead) writes:
>>Yes, that is correct.  If you have 10 tickets to the
>>Sugar Bowl, I will pay you $400 for all of them.
>400/10 = 40 (the actual price of the ticket)
>>	-or-
>>I'll even pay $80 for a pair of tickets...
>80/2 = 40  (the actual price of the ticket)
>>	-or-
>>I'll pay $160 for 4 tickets...
>160/4 = 40  (the actual price of the ticket)
>
>Barry, Barry, Barry.  I hate to tell you this, but the likelyhood of
>you getting any tickets for $40 each is just about zero.  This will be
>the National Championship Game.  You might get a ticket cheap after 
>the game starts, but I doubt it.
>
>Ken "Football, Smootball.  All I want is a		

Ken, you figured me out.  You are so smart.  

Barry "Bear" Wilson

Newsgroups: hsv.general
From: jim@pustule.b29.ingr.com (Jim Weeks)
Subject: Re: Reindeer
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:39:14 GMT

In article <0iRwVB1w161w@cdthq.UUCP>, gary@cdthq.UUCP (Gary Heston) writes:
|> Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski) writes:

|> 
|> Yes; the guy has real live genuine warm-blooded furry reindeer
|> that he brings in. I'll have to start swinging by there, and
|> check on whether or not they're in place yet.
    
     Did anyone happen to check and see if this spectacle is indeed
   available to the general public.??..I mentioned it this weekend at a 
   neighborhood gathering and will be pummeled to death by hords of small
   munchkin-like persons if I can't show them a real reindeer..Help me
   I don't want to die from bleeding knees...

   PS. Where is this place again....

Thanks 

-- 
Jim Weeks                             Graphic Peripheral Evaluation
Ph. (205)730-4494                     Intergraph Corp.
Fax (205)730-6239                     Huntsville, AL 35894-0001
internet: jim@pustule.b29.ingr.com    uucp: ...uunet!ingr!b29!pustule!jim
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Newsgroups: hsv.general,ingr.general
From: 3808@b30.ingr.com (Barry Wilson)
Subject: Next to last message - Tickets needed !
Keywords: sugar bowl tickets gripe gripe gripe
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:13:06 GMT

This is not business related, but I guess it is OK
to post this type of thing until January 1, 1993, per policy.

Am I right or wrong, I don't know ???


I still need two tickets to the Sugar Bowl.  If you
happen to know someone who has tickets, but cannot go,
please have them call and leave a message, up until
New Years Eve day at noon.....

thanks

Barry Wilson
730-3384
From: Jim.McCullars@f1.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim McCullars)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Honorable Governor Hunt
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 23:11:29 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/1 - Net 373 Echomail Hu, Huntsville AL

Hello Leah!

   It sure was nice to run into you and Chuck at McDonald's the other day.  It's 
been too long.  Now on to business...

In a message of <Dec 31 18:21>, Leah Wesolowski (1:373/12) writes:

 LW>Governor Hunt is Republican. That makes him unpopular with many 
 LW>people in power in Montgomery, including the State Attorney 
 LW>General.

   Leah, open your eyes.  Like you, I had high hopes for Governor Hunt when he 
was first elected.  But there has been absolutely no leadership shown from the 
Governor's Office in at least the last three years.  The tax reform issue is a 
prime example.  Hunt said he was in favor of it.  But was he willing to stick 
his neck out and really campaign for it?  No, he just came up with totally 
useless and stupid metaphors like, "I'm not gonna kiss that mule until the 
Legislature agrees to."  Really.


 LW>Democatz were busy clawing each other's eyes out he was 
 LW>conducting an issue oriented campaign.

   Well, I was living in New York at the time, but still had a mail subscription 
to the Sunday edition of the Birmingham News.  I don't recall him conducting an 
"issue oriented" campaign, just a "vote for the nice guy (no pun intended)" 
campaign.


 LW>attacked anyone, no. Instead he has made the statement that the 
 LW>tax-payer will not bear the brunt of the expenses incurred in his 
 LW>defense. Yet another example of his integrity, something that 

   Some folks in Montgomery are taking a I'll-believe-that-when-I-see-it 
attitude towards the Governor's statement that he will pay his own legal 
expenses.

   I'll tell you how I feel about it.  I don't think that Hunt is a total crook, 
but I think that there is some unethical behavior mixed in with a lot of 
stupidity.  Have you read the charges?  He supposedly funneled money from a 
non-profit corporation to a political organization to his personal use.  And 
$200,000.00 isn't peanuts, either.

   Do you recall what Hunt did at the state level before becoming governor?  He 
was head of some state agricultural development office.  He was accused there of 
forcing political support from state employees, and expense account 
irregularities.  If you recall, he resigned under a cloud.  Inside scoop has it 
he resigned to avoid being indicted.

   If you've been watching this unfold, you will notice that with very few 
exceptions, the state Republican Party hierarchy (like Emory Folmar and Jean 
Sullivan) is distancing itself from the Governor.  You might be wise to follow 
their example.

Jim

 



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Newsgroups: hsv.general,ingr.general
From: wilsonk@infonode.ingr.com (Keith Wilson)
Subject: Re: Last Posting - I need tickets...
Keywords: need sugar bowl tickets last please
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:49:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec24.160605.24398@b30.ingr.com>, 3808@b30.ingr.com (Barry Wilson) writes:
> In article <1992Dec24.151509.1819@msdhsv.ingr.com> james@brock.b17b.ingr.com (James Brock) writes:
> >Mr. Wilson:
> >
> >I was in possession of 13 tickets to the Sugar Bowl, but I
> >gave them to charity.
> 
> I don't have a problem with that.  In fact, why don't you call
> the charity that you gave them to, and volunteer me to drive
> their group to the game.  That way, everyone is happy, and they
> would get to use the tickets, for a memorable Christmas season.
> Barry
> 
  I'm not happy.  Surely, you will attempt to borrow my truck for this
  endeavor.  

  Keith (after all, I need my truck to take "all the disgruntled residents
         living north of Highway 72 to the next Madison council meeting)
  Wilson

  PS: and please, call me bro...

	xBR549
From: Scott.Burgett@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Scott Burgett)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: hard drive
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 15:10:52 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

A friend of mine is having problems with his hard drive and I was 
wondering if someone out there could help.  Here's the problem:
 
We ran Disk Doctor from Norton Utilities to check his disk and do 
any repairs necessary to it (Had problems creating an undo disk, so 
we bypassed that (big mistake I know).  Now, for some reason he has 
more drives on his hard drive than is allowed.  The system tried to 
make more logical drives (passed Z:).  We can't run FDISK because 
it searches the hard drive and just sits there.  Tried Norton Utilities 
again, and still no luck.  Should he do a high-level format on the 
C drive?  Just a little history, he was running a bulletin board, 
and someone uploaded a virus that ended up infecting his hard drive 
he supposedly "removed" it.  So, now I can't figure out what to do. 
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 



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Newsgroups: hsv.general,hsv.politics
From: maxwell@deep-13.gizmo.com
Subject: Re: who else: our Governor
Organization: Gizmonics Institute Inc.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:20:38 GMT
X-Posted-From: fnalo.fnal.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

dianne@dianne.b24a.ingr.com (Dianne Ferrans) writes:

> And don't you hate it when these pols make us look like
>  a bunch of dishonest, ignorant hicks by thinking they can get
>  away with this stuff?  You don't get indighted (sp?) by a grand jury
>  just because someone doesn't *like* you!  (And do you think the
>  rest of America thinks we still live like the Dukes of Hazzard?
>  I know ol' hefty Hefflen sure doesn't project that image, does
>  he ... )

Shut up and pass the red-eye gravy.
> 
>  Dianne "My name ain't Bubba" Ferrans

Max "my name ain't max" monningh, er, ah...


i miss boiled peanuts.
Newsgroups: hsv.general,ingr.general
From: 3808@b30.ingr.com (Barry Wilson)
Subject: Last Posting - I need tickets...
Keywords: need sugar bowl tickets last please
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 14:28:10 GMT

** Last Posting **

I still need Sugar Bowl tickets.  Surely someone
out there has tickets and isn't going because they can't
get a hotel room, or some other reason !!!

Barry
730-3384
Newsgroups: hsv.general
From: maxwell@deep-13.gizmo.com
Subject: Re: Stupid Addresses!
Organization: Gizmonics Institute Inc.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:22:20 GMT
X-Posted-From: fnalo.fnal.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Dec21.202416.16955@b11.b11.ingr.com>, puttk@b11.b11.ingr.com (Ken Putt) writes:
> Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski) writes:
> 
>>Since I read the Ken (Brian) Putt note here I HAD to comment at how 
>>those Intergraph addresses are the really stupid thing! I mean, with 
>>all those high power programmers out ther at intergraph there ought 
>>to be a way that we can communicate without those STUPID addresses!?
>>Leah
> 
> Give you a free ride to a whole new world of communications with 
> others and you complain about the "vehicle" that gets you there?? Help!
> We need to get Leah "A Cause"! Quick! ;-)
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

O.K.: Clinton's choice for Surgeon General favors making marijuana legally
available to anyone with a medical need. 

This will mean medically prescribed mj for people w/ Aids, cancer
[chemotherapy], MS, glaucoma, and several other diseases. If faithfully
implemented, several hundreds of thousands of Americans will receive medical
marijuana, and quite possibly they will be permitted to grow their own.

(I predict Leah will applaud this developement)

just-helping.max 
mmonningh@igc.org    <--- notice the simple, elegant, email address

(igc is the Institute for Global Communications, a network services provider
funded by a grant from the Tides foundation.  It's the network of choice for
progressives, social activists, and other poineering cultural elites.)
From: Michael.Konor@p0.f8.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Konor)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Uploaded Viruses
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 09:40:18 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/8.0 - The Inferno, Huntsville AL

LW> sys- ops? I always thought you great Sys-ops always checkd
LW> uploaded programs for the deadly programs before you made them
LW> available. I would like to know because the HD you save--COuld Be

It's not really my responsibility to check files for viruses.  Though I do
a check on some files, the ultimate responsibility is the end user.


*FSED91j*

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Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Uploaded Viruses
From: gary@cdthq.UUCP (Gary Heston)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 20:43:47 CST
Organization: Garys' Home for Obsolete Computers

fordke@infonode.ingr.com (Keith Ford) writes:

> In article <6692.2B407C15@umagic.FIDONET.ORG> Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.F
> 
> >I always thought you great Sys-ops always checkd uploaded programs 
> >for the deadly programs before you made them available. I would like 

Never make assumptions about what someone else "should have done" 
to protect your system. Ever. *You're* the one at risk, and only
you are aware of your systems' configuration--something that might
destroy yours may not show up on a sysops. Also, it's generally
not possible to scan software targeted at a different system (i.e.,
a DOS scanner won't detect Amiga viruses, etc.).

> It is suggested, but not required.  My bbs has areas for tested and
> untested uploads.  When you download an untested file, you should
> ALWAYS scan it for viruses and take precautions.  However, most
> computer viruses are not spread via bulletin boards, but via shrink
> wrapped commercial software.

Actually, it's by casual disc swapping (aka piracy). The commercial
providers are getting a *lot* more careful nowadays. Note that this
doesn't stop me from scanning new stuff at work; only takes a minute,
and if it prevents an infection, it's well worth it.

Also, another reason the end user should scan is that they may be
using a more recent scanner than a sysop used when the package 
arrived. It's possible for a file to get infected with a new virus,
pass a check with the current scanner, and get propagated further
after a new scanner comes out. Always use the most current one
available, and scan everything that comes in. Scan periodically
(at least weekly) just to be safe.

> Practice safe computing!

Absolutly. The first thing I do each morning at work is to start
a virus scan of seven file servers, even if I haven't installed
anything new. *Every* file gets checked. As soon as a newer version
of the scanner comes out, I pull it down and start using it.

Of course, I'm protecting a manufacturing line building thousands
of computers each month, and the effort is trivial for the protection
we gain. I can't discuss or confirm any actual virus incidents, due
to a departmental policy (yes, I objected strongly; I lost); however,
I can say that we've found all kinds of interesting stuff on returned
systems, including a earlier version of DOS than the system was 
shipped with. (We pre-install the software, there are no floppies
shipped with the computers.) Needless to say, the end customer 
claimed it showed up that way; however, there's no copies of DOS 4.01
on any of those servers....  :-) 

Gary Heston, at home....
gary@cdthq.uucp
From: Scott.Burgett@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Scott Burgett)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Internet
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 22:13:36 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

Thanks for the reply. That isn't that hard (or as hard as I
thought it would be).
 
Scott

 

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From: Scott.Burgett@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Scott Burgett)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Internet
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 15:43:42 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

Got a question.
 
How do you send E-Mail directly to someone's Internet address through 
FIDOnet?  I know how to send from Internet to FIDO net, but not the 
reverse.
 

I was reading somewhere in one of the articles concerning Internet 
mail addresses,  trust me, those Internet addresses are lot more 
powerful and useful than you can imagine.  I wouldn't have believed 
it until I had to use it.  I have about three Internet addresses and 
 I can send and receive mail worldwide with it.  All someone has to 

do is type in my address, for instance my address is the following
 
BURGEST@ENG.AUBURN.EDU
 
Now, if someone in Canada, the United Kingdom, or California wanted to 
E-mail me, all they have to do is enter my address in the mail 'To:'
part of the e-mail.  Enter the address and subject and that's it
 
Of course, as usual, it's my own opinion.  Now mailing between FIDO 
net and Internet is a BIG pain, I will admit to that.  Of course I 
think Intergraph might have a NEWS reader setup with a conference 
devoted solely to this ECHO.  Might be called something like:
 
alt.huntsville.local   I'm not sure.

And all they have to do is post a message there and the NEWS program 


takes care of the rest. 



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Newsgroups: hsv.general
From: puttk@infonode.ingr.com (Ken Putt)
Subject: Re: Uploaded Viruses
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:14:56 GMT

Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski) writes:

>I think it is a danged shame..._rambling about viruses, public service BBS's 
>(Not!), stress reduction, cruel laid-back bosses, etc. deleted_...Company
>policy!
>   Somehow this all ties in.
>Leah

Leah, I think you must stay up WAY too late cruising the boards. Get some
sleep!

Ken

==============================================================================
=               I N T E R G R A P H  C O R P O R A T I O N                   =
=        Kenny B. Putt   Component Engineer   brian@ce.b21.ingr.com          =
==============================================================================
=    To Sin by Silence When One Should Protest Makes Cowards out of Men.     =
=                    - My Opinions Are Simply That -                         =
==============================================================================
From: Scott.Burgett@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Scott Burgett)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Internet
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 23:29:16 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

Well, I use the Sun SPARC stations to gain access to internet, sometimes.
Most of the time I dial into our school's computer and gain access 
through a dial in terminal.  So, I can't use the windowing system 
they have.  I'm stuck using command line.  I don't get the ANSI screens
like I do here on the BBSs.  That's the only draw back.  Other than 
that, I like using Internet better.  Especially having access to FTP 
sites.  That comes in handy, especially when I log in McAfee's FTP 
site, to get their virus scanner directly from them.  Of course I 
only use these bulletin boards when I'm home for the holidays.
 



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Newsgroups: hsv.general
From: puttk@infonode.ingr.com (Ken Putt)
Subject: Re: Stupid Addresses!
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:40:56 GMT

maxwell@deep-13.gizmo.com writes:
>just-helping.max 
>mmonningh@igc.org    <--- notice the simple, elegant, email address

>(igc is the Institute for Global Communications, a network services provider
>funded by a grant from the Tides foundation.  It's the network of choice for
>progressives, social activists, and other poineering cultural elites.)

What are "progressives" and "other poineering cultural elites"?

k
From: Christian.Walters@umagic.FIDONET.ORG (Christian Walters)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Bowlbound Barry
Date: Fri,  1 Jan 93 09:35:59 CST
Organization: Micro Magic

Well, he should be in New Orleans by now.  D'ya think he got any 
tickets?



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From: Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: stupid addresses!
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 93 20:37:18 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

Thanks
 
BTW is your name REALLY TOM FOOLERY?
oops Caps lock!
Leah

 

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Newsgroups: hsv.general
From: tulsi@ws19.b30.ingr.com (Neeraj Tulsian)
Subject: Re: Stupid Addresses!
Reply-To: tulsi@ws19.b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph, AL
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:21:11 GMT

In article <6655.2B3579E8@umagic.FIDONET.ORG>, Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski) writes:
|> Since I read the Ken (Brian) Putt note here I HAD to comment at how 
|> those Intergraph addresses are the really stupid thing! I mean, with 
|> all those high power programmers out ther at intergraph there ought 
|> to be a way that we can communicate without those STUPID addresses!?
|> Leah
|> 
|> 
|> 
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	Look who's talking ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 tulsi@ws19.b30.ingr.com
Newsgroups: hsv.general,ingr.general
From: smw@wikki.b17c.ingr.com (mike wixson)
Subject: Re: A riddle...
Keywords: I need tickets
Reply-To: smw@wikki.b17c.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:57:39 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.180552.3979@b30.ingr.com>, 3808@b30.ingr.com (Barry Wilson) writes:

[..stuff deleted...]

|> Barry " Hey, who put a concrete roof on the darn stadium..." Wilson
|>
|> Thats why they call it the SuperDOME.

Didn't you keep up with Desert Storm? They dropped bombs from planes that
went through 8 feet of concrete. Now, I would expect that a lowly skydiver
could penetrate a mere 8 inches of concrete if he or she waited to pull
the ripcord until after they went through the roof. And if you were a
*true* Alabama fan, you wouldn't pull the ripcord at all in hopes of landing
on at least one of Miami's key players, because we all know that Alabama
is going to need all of the help it can get!

|> 
|> All in jest.
|> 

-- 
	mike wixson		smw@wikki.b17c.ingr.com

 "You can't fool all the people all the time. However, highway interchange
  signs come pretty close."
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