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From: ckile@andy.bgsu.edu (crystal kile)
Subject: Maurice/Tulsa???
Keywords: ummm
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:20:57 GMT

Season opener was fun, but as an ex-Tennesseean, I must ask this question:
Isn't Maurice supposed to be from Knoxville, TN, NOT Tulsa, OK as indicated
last night in one of the scenes at the Brick in which M is torturing 
everybody with his memoirs?  Or is it just that Barry Corbin is (in real
life) from Knoxville?  God, I hope that I'm wrong, that we aren't going to
start seeing such gross continuity problems.

A note on product placement: My friend L'ea loves the fact that The Brick
serves Anchor-something and Red Hook beer.  At least it's not the 
ubiquitous Miller Lite.


The canoe: Haven't we seen Ed in a more battered canoe before?  I think that
the canoe was Joel's.  Notice that he seems to be getting more into the whole
Alaska thing.  

Maggie's exes: Nice touch of delirium.  How did Glenn -- the beefy dark-haired
one in the tank-top -- die??? 
	       Another nice touch, the NEW dead boyfriend (from high school/
Grosse Pointe).

Ruth Ann:  I agree that it was pretty out of character for Ruth Ann to 
smash Maurice's pocket-corder.  She shoulda just taken it away from him.

Chris: He has hair again!!!! :)
                                      ckile
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From: weaver@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Dave Weaver)
Subject: What exactly did Joel say?
Organization: SPS
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:04:52 GMT


Through the rewind button on the VCR, this is the exact line:

Joel to Maggie:
"Right now I'm going to unzip your trousers and I'm going to 
pull them down over your hips. (slight pause) I'll try not
to get turned on."

The "I'll" is not loud, but it IS there. 

By the way, it seems like a common ending has been Maggie watching
over a sick Joel in bed (Frozen Frenchman and Evil Twin episodes 
and I think at least one more that I'm forgetting).
It was nice to see Joel watching over Maggie this time.


DBW
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From: bowman@reed.edu (Eric Bowman (bobo))
Subject: Re: Anchor Steam Beer
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:45:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.031849.18430@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>On the subject of beer in the show--I wonder if Olympia beer has been shown.
>It's brewed in Washington (obviously).

Ack!  The mere thought of this makes any northwest beer snob shudder.  Olympia
is simply nothing compared to the beers which have graced the walls of The
Brick.  In fact, I don't think Oly is even brewed in Washington anymore, but
this may be wishful thinking.

If yer dad thought Oly was good, it's time for another visit to the NW -- much
has changed since 1981 in terms of QOB (quality-of-beer).

later,
bobo
bowman@reed.edu
From: MAP@LCS.MIT.Edu (Michael A. Patton)
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Subject: Re: KBHR origin
Date: 29 Sep 92 04:34:21 GMT
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science

[Warning:  This post contains almost nothing that is specific to
		Northern Exposure	-MAP :-]

I always hate to inject real facts into USENET discussions, but this
time I feel compelled to offer some ...  My father was Chief Engineer
for a conglomerate that owned a number of broadcast licenses, this is
from discussions I recall with him during some of the many times he
worked on the relicensing paperwork for their various holdings...plus
a few other tidbits...


When a license application is filed with the FCC, you can, but do not
need to, specify a preferred call sign (that's what the letters such
as KBHR are technically called).  There may be an extra charge to file
such a special request (like vanity license plates), but it's only at
initial filing, relicensing an already assigned call sign is not
affected.  When the FCC grants the license (assuming it does :-), they
will usually grant it with the requested call sign, but they have no
obligation to do so, they can grant it with another call sign if they
want.  Channel assignments work the same way as well (thus W-LVI is 56
and W-CVB is Channel Five Boston, think in roman numerals :-).

When a license changes hands, the new owners are required to file a
new initial license application.  They can, if they choose, request
a new call sign, or to keep the existing one.  If they request to keep
the existing assignment (assuming the license is granted :-) they will
get it (I _think_ this is guaranteed), if they request a new one, the
rules are as above.

The main reasons a new owner might want the existing call sign are
recognition.  If they don't intend to change much, they may want the
prospective audience to see it as continuity (many may not even
realize it's changed owners).  If the original call letters had an
interesting meaning to the audience, they may also wish to retain the
association.  This often happens with network affiliates if they
retain the same affiliation ...

On the other hand, if they want to make a point of changing (for
example, when a radio station changes format) they may specifically
want new call letters, even if the station doesn't change owners...


Now as to pronunciations and other meanings.  It doesn't take much to
make a pronounceable word from any random selection of four letters,
particularly given the amount of "delta" some stations use (I'm still
not sure I believe W-ZLX is pronounced "Classics" :-).  Many of the
call signs people think of as "Vanity" are just retroactive (by the
promotions department :-) interpolation of what they got assigned.
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From: 001201c@ace.acadiau.ca (NATHANIEL FISHER CRAWFORD)
Subject: Re: NX Premiere "Northwest Passages"
Organization: Acadia University
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 18:29:11 GMT

In article <Eenjc3u00Vo9Erk2JK@andrew.cmu.edu> Jason Lee Smith <js06+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Date: Sun,  4 Oct 1992 10:04:51 -0400 
>From: Jason Lee Smith <js06+@andrew.cmu.edu>
>Subject: Re: NX Premiere "Northwest Passages"
>Uh, excuse me, on the first episode of "Northern Exposure" Maurice said
>something to the effect of "I always thought what we needed around here
>was a good Jew Doctor."
>
>I think that pretty well establishes his character right there, and I
>really don't think hearing racial slurs coming from him is all that odd.
>
>
>By the way, while we're on the topic of minorities. Who else thinks
>Maurice is gay, but trying to deny it?

 Maurice talks about the males in his life with just as much passion and 
respect as he does about females, so, yes, it could be a possibilty. Just
look at his paranoia over Ron and Eric, the two guys who run the Inn they
baught from him. He's completely jealous of them. Wow, imagine the chaos
that would occur in Cicely if he came out!!! I don't think Chris would be 
staying so late in the KBHR studio for those wee-hours conversations with
Maurice.






>		Jason
>
>
>A cap of good acid costs five dollars and for that you can hear the
>Universal Symphony with God singing solo and the Holy Ghost on drums.
>Hunter S. Thompson
>
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From: 001201c@ace.acadiau.ca (NATHANIEL FISHER CRAWFORD)
Subject: Episode Names
Organization: Acadia University
Distribution: alt.tv.northern-exp
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 18:41:23 GMT


Alot of people have asked this, and I don't think their requests have been 
granted. I would like someone to post the episode names and summaries, so
I can identify them easier, as well as know which ones I don't have on
tape. As far as I know, I'm only missing the ones where:
-Chris meets Bernard and builds the sculpture
-Ed loses his virginity
-Holling considers circumcision
-The unidentified person dies in Joel's office

Do some of these things happen in the same episodes? I'd love to know
how many I'm missing, and I'd love to be able to keep track of the ones I
have on tape without labeling them as "Adam and Eve Get Married", "Chris
Exudes A Pheremone", "Joel And Maggie Kiss In Juneau", etc. Please save me.
From: jf47+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joel Walter Feldmeier)
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Subject: Re: What exactly did Joel say?
Date: 3 Oct 92 23:22:26 GMT
	<38953@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Somehow I thought I heard "Try not"
From: schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu (Robert Schmunk)
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Subject: Cicely weather report
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:05:27 GMT
Reply-To: schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu (Robert Schmunk)
Organization: Dept. of Space Physics, Rice University, Houston TX

While watching the early morning news on *ABC* today, I happened to notice
during the list of various cities' weather forecasts before one of the
commercials:

"Cicely, Alaska -- 43 deg, Partly cloudy"

-- 
Robert B. Schmunk <schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu>
SPAC, Rice Univ, Box 1892, Houston, TX 77251 USA
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From: pjb4288@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Pete - Toonatic - Boulay)
Subject: Posted for my girlfriend
Originator: pjb4288@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 17:42:59 GMT

Subj:	N-EXP DAILY DIALOGUE

A friend of mine was wondering if there is some sort of book out on
the market that has a compilation of Chris' thought-provoking dialogue?
If not, she was thinking that it would be a good idea to compile
choice peices of Chris's dialogue (or complete versions of the
more famous, intriguing ones) into a book and structure the book
into a "thought-of-the-day" kind of format.  In that case, could
anyone please tell me where she can write to the producers and/or
writers of NEXP?  
Thanks in advance.
Please send E-mail to 59048808q@servax.fiu.edu

Mary
-- 
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From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: Canoe last night
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 07:30:50 GMT


I don;t use any products seen in NEXP, does this affect my credibility
as a NEXP fan?? :-)

I mean, if they drank diet coke, and used ms-dos computers that would be good.

Funny thing about shows I like, I can never really find anything in them to
relate to.    :-)
Now back to NEXP newsgroup.btw- I liked the premiere--I hope Maggie and Joel
finally start to like each other (yes, even I can think things like that)
Simon
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From: schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu (Robert Schmunk)
Subject: Re: Canoe last night
Reply-To: schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu (Robert Schmunk)
Organization: Dept. of Space Physics, Rice University, Houston TX
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:41:52 GMT

In article <1a9la3INNq1d@eagle.natinst.com>, winkeler@natinst.com (Keith Winkeler) writes:
|> 
|> Did you notice one of the beers being sold at the Brick? Anchor
|> Steam Beer. 

It looked like an Anchor Steam Porter tap to me. One of my favorite
beers, and perhaps my favorite American beer.

-- 
Robert B. Schmunk <schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu>
SPAC, Rice Univ, Box 1892, Houston, TX 77251 USA -- (713) 527-4939
From: stattenf@Apple.COM (Keith Stattenfield)
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Subject: Re: Canoe last night
Date: 30 Sep 92 06:30:56 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

br@cs.cmu.edu (Bill Ross) writes:


>    Perhaps I'm being picky, but the canoe on last night's show
>    was just a little too much.  It was a brand-shiny-new
>    plastic Old Town and they made real sure that you saw that
>    name on it.  Whose canoe was it anyway?  Fleischman probably
>    doesn't have a canoe but Ed would.  Would Ed have a brand new
>    fiberglass canoe with not a speck of dirt on it?  I doubt
>    he could even afford it.  Were the props people too lazy to
>    find a canoe to fit Ed, or is this a product placement
>    scheme?  What other examples of product placement have
>    folks noticed?  Apple Macs, certainly.

A small point, but I'm told that we (Apple) have never paid for product
placement.  Supposedly, Hollywood just thinks that Macs look like what
computers should look like, and uses them accordingly.

-Keith Stattenfield
 stattenf@apple.com

>    Bill
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From: usagi@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Erin Sasaki)
Subject: Episode Titles Wanted (weekly)
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:56:48 GMT


Hey everyone -

	Since I live in one of those uncivilized parts of the country where
the episode titles are not printed in the TV guide, I have a request.  Could
some kind soul please post the name of each new episode each week?

	Thanks in advance!

						Erin Sasaki
						usagi@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
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From: sasha@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (David A. Tumarkin)
Subject: Re: The opener
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:44:41 GMT

z8tah@zohar.gsfc.nasa.gov (Theresa A. Held) writes:

> 
> > Joel should get an award next year for the single greatest line he's
> > had to date:  Maggie.  I'm gonna unzip your pants and pull them down.
> > Now don't go getting yourself all excited.
> 
> Interesting but I thought he said ..." I'll try not to get excited." 
> 
> What did other people hear?

Actually, I coulda sworn he said something on the lines of:
   "O.K., now I'm gonna pull your trousers down.  Tell me if it hurts."
Or something.


                                        - Sasha

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From: sham@cs.arizona.edu (Shamim Zvonko Mohamed)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Anchor Steam Beer
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:58:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson

In article <srp.717878666@babar.mmwb.ucsf.edu>, srp@babar.mmwb.ucsf.edu (Scott R. Presnell) writes:
|> lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
|> 
|> >It's a nice touch, but I wish they'd get an Alaskan beer on. Is it
|> >still Chinook?
|> 
|> It's called "Alaskan" now (produced and bottled in Juneau).  I understand
|> thay they are distributing in Nothern WA now, but that's all in the lower
|> 48.

So am I the only one who noticed the "Alaskan" sign in the Brick in the opening
episode? Behind Maggie and Ed, when Shelley is describing how your "nips start
heading south and your buns turn to yogurt."

-s
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From: jweber@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (jodi.weber)
Subject: Re: Monday's "Midnight Sun" episode.
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:08:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.051011.11568@nas.nasa.gov> eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct4.230915.22103@leland.Stanford.EDU>
>hwnunes@leland.Stanford.EDU (Henry Walter Nunes) writes:
>>>I just want to see what their excuse is going to be to say that
>>>Cicely is located in the arctic circle when all along, Cicely
>>>apparently had normal day and night periods.
>
>Seeing the Sun circle the sky is an awesome experience, but it's not
>the same as a sunny day in the lower 48.  The Sun never gets very high
>in the sky.  You still get tired naturally, and "below" the Circle
>you still get short twilight.  Night shades help.
>

On last night's show, Chris talked about the sun setting for the first
time in a while.  Does anyone know if that means Cicely is/is not above
the Arctic Circle?  i.e., does the sun stay up all the time during some
part of the year even below the Arctic Circle?


Jodi Weber
jodiweber@attmail.com   or   jweber@cbnewsg.cb.att.com

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From: kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers)
Subject: Re: Season's premier, loud musical score?
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 00:10:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.025244.17567@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>
>Well, the loud music score could be why Joel's immortal  line when he and Ed
>find Maggie in the woods coudn't be heard right and ahs caused so much
>confusion........
>

And you could have read his lips but for the glare off the canoe and the
beer bottles 

Ken B.
From: wegeng.henr801c@xerox.com
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Subject: Re: A question about bears...
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:01:06 GMT
Organization: Xerox
Originator: wegeng@ogre

In article <harris.717764458@drvax3> harris@drvax3.msfc.nasa.gov (Mitch Harris) writes:
>The season premier was pretty good, but now I have a question. When
>Maggie went camping, I noticed she didn't even have a gun with her.
>Aren't there alot of bears roaming around Alaska (or am I victim of a
>stereotype)?

This question probably belongs in rec.backcountry... no, on second
thought let's not revive the discussion there (too many emotions).

There's no concensus on whether campers in bear country need to carry
guns.  Some people do, and some don't.  All agree that you should
take steps to avoid bear encounters, such as hanging your food.  I
didn't notice what Maggie did with her food (I was too busy trying
to figure out what kind of canoe she was paddling :-).

/Don
wegeng.henr801c@xerox.com
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From: gworrell@carina.unm.edu (Gayla M. Worrell)
Subject:  Season Premiere
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 18:33:01 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


I thought everyone seemed just a little bit off, but I loved it.
Yes, I thought it was strange, too, that Marilyn wanted to learn to
drive.  But I thought it was *very* Marilyn-like that she didn't want
to drive anymore because she "missed walking".  I also thought it was
great that Ruth Ann smashed the tape recorder.  I was waiting for some-
one to do something to it.  And, IMO, Ruth Ann is the only one who
could get away with it.  I thought the music was pretty loud, but I
thought it was probably just me.  I don't think I've ever paid much attention 
to the music before I started reading this group.  

Best season premiere lines - 

Rick, responding to Maggie's comment that he looks waxy-
	"Maggie, I'm dead!"

Uh oh, I forgot the name of the one who died on the glacier!
  Oh well, his response to Maggie asking why he was shivering.

                          Gayla - who couldn't sleep last night
                                  because she had the stupid "Happy
                                  Birthday" song stuck in her head.
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From: me@naranja-next.Stanford.EDU (My Account)
Subject: NX: "Northwest Passage"
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 07:18:04 GMT

The things I got from the show.

First, I thought that bit with Ruth-Ann smashing Maurice's recorder with a  
hammer was too predictable.

I thought that an interesting insight to the show came when Maggie was  
talking with all of her dead beaus and they all find out that she said the  
same thing to each of them (they made her laugh).  I find this amusing  
because in the season opener last year ("Bumpy Road to Love"), Maggie  
tells Joel that he makes her laugh... it happened at the end.

When Joel was loosening Maggies pants and said "try not to get turned on."   
That was classic Fleischman.

That Chirs thing was wierd, and I wish Maurice got hit be the hammer (I  
like him, but he was overbearing the other night).

Joel's kiss to Maggie makes up for the episode "Seoul Mates."  Joel should  
have gave her a little X-mas peck when he gave her the tree.

The music seemed loud because the mixing was horrible.

I'm really glad the show is back on, but the new credits at the begining  
are a little tight... the names at the end flash by a little too quick for  
my taste.


	this is really,
	hwnunes@leland.stanford.edu
From: tsirbasc@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Tsirbas Christos)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Thoughts o' Chris
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:59:53 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Concerning a compilation of Chris's thoughts

There already is such a source:  Your local public library.
If you are interested in discovering some of the authors
that Chris refers to, then look them up in the library and
get the full story, not just a few quotes.  I think that
this is precisely what the producers and writers are trying
to do with the Chris character: stimulate viewers into exploring
authors and thinkers that they may not have encountered before, or
to rediscover or increase their knowledge of an author they have
encountered in the past.

Chris Tsirbas
tsirbasc@brise.ere.umontreal.ca
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From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: Monday's "Midnight Sun" episode.
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 05:10:11 GMT

>In article <1992Oct4.230915.22103@leland.Stanford.EDU>
hwnunes@leland.Stanford.EDU (Henry Walter Nunes) writes:
>>I just want to see what their excuse is going to be to say that
>>Cicely is located in the arctic circle when all along, Cicely
>>apparently had normal day and night periods.

If this is the case, then Cicely must be near the Pipeline Road,
since it's the only major road North of the Circle.  But then the
Pipeline road isn't paved like Cicely, nor are there trees as tall
at these latitudes.
Actually, I can't recall a single episode involving the Trans-Alaska
Pipeline System.  Probably meat for some future episode (this is drama,
right?).

Seeing the Sun circle the sky is an awesome experience, but it's not
the same as a sunny day in the lower 48.  The Sun never gets very high
in the sky.  You still get tired naturally, and "below" the Circle
you still get short twilight.  Night shades help.

Probably also need a summer mosquito episode.

Didn't they have corresponding episodes with long dark evenings with snow
on the ground?  Well, I hope I get to see the aurora above Fairbanks this
winter.

You may now suspend your disbelief once again.  Back to fiction.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
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