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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:52:54 PDT
Reply-To:     Ben Conner <bconner@NETCOM.COM>
From:         Ben Conner <bconner@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      S. Cal. SAS Users Group Meeting
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        Meeting of the Southern California SAS Users Group


Date:   Thursday, August 20, 1992
Time:   Presentations: 1:30 pm to 4:00 pm
Place:  Norwalk Library
        12350 Imperial Highway
        Norwalk, Ca  90650
Host:   Los Angeles County


                    Agenda

1:35 - 2:35       SAS/CALC Version 6.07 Demonstration by SAS Institute
2:35 - 2:45       Break
2:45 - 3:45       PIE/TSO Demonstration by Technologic Software (allows
                  multiple TSO/VTAM sessions for MVS)
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:02:00 GMT
Reply-To:     Willy Waks <0005400191@MCIMAIL.COM>
From:         Willy Waks <0005400191@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      North Texas SAS Users Group

The next meeting of NOTSUG, the North Texas SAS Users Group, will be held on
Wednesday, Spetember 16 1992, from 1pm to 4pm.
Location: Convex Computer Corporation, 3000 Waterview Parkway, Richardson
(next to UTD).
Feature Presentation: How SAS represents numbers, the Inside Story, by Bruce
Zak.
Also in the Program: the vectorization of SAS on Convex Systems, by Joel Roberst
and Isom Crawford of Convex Computer Corp.
A tour of the Convex Facilities.
Business meeting

We expect all SAS-Lers in Dallas at this time for this unique event !

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:01:37 EDT
Reply-To:     Jill S Shapiro <jss19@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
From:         Jill S Shapiro <jss19@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Mahalanobis distance

I was hoping that someone might be able to help with a question
concerning discriminant analysis and Mahalanobis generalized
distances.  The problem is as follows:  In SAS I can obtain the
distances but not their significance levels while in SPSS I can
obtain the F-Statistics and significance levels for the distances
which are calculated internally but which SPSS can't print out.
I'm trying to find someway of getting one package to provide both
pieces of data as I don't feel comfortable combining the separate
results.   For those who usually work in SAS and don't get
significance levels is there a general rule of thumb that you
follow in evaluating these distances?
Any suggestions/comments would be appreciated.
Thank you.


I can be contacted at
JSS19@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU
or
JISUT@CUVMB.BITNET
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 08:47:03 EDT
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From:         BLEBLANC@UMIAMIVM.BITNET
Subject:      Position announcement

                    POSITION ANNOUNCEMENT

This was given to me to pass on.  Please contact the person whose name
appears at the end of this note for further questions.  I have no
involvement other than passing along this announcement.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Major Airline needs:
SAS Programmer Analyst - Must have 3+ years developing applications
under & with SAS.  DB/DC or DB2 a plus. ($28-43k).

State of the art technology, unlimited free air travel for employee
and family.  Located in Virginia.

Contact:   Mark Gademsky
           474 Elmwood Ave
           PO Box 26
           Buffalo, NY 14222-0026
           716-881-2144
           716-881-0711 (fax)
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:04:52 WST
Reply-To:     Richard Hockey <richardh@EPISUN.EPIDEM.UWA.EDU.AU>
From:         Richard Hockey <richardh@EPISUN.EPIDEM.UWA.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Macro variable naming conventions
Comments: To: sas-l@ohstvma.acs.ohio-state.edu

In reply to the mail from <SAS-L@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>...
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>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>CONTENT:   Opinion
>>SUMMARY:   Macro variable name style
>>           I disagree with leading underscore convention
>>REL/PLTF:  6.07.01/CMS, 6.04/PC-DOS
>>E-ADDR:    76350.1604@compuserve.com
>>NAME:      Andy Norton
>>ADDRESS:   Trilogy Consulting, 5228 Lovers Lane, Kalamazoo MI 49002
>>PHONE:     (616) 344-2191
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>>
Who cares?
Besides typing underscores is a pain, just about as bad as file names
with mixed case in UNIX.

I think this list should concentrate on matters which have a direct
influence on improving SAS and result in a wider understanding and
use of SAS.


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Subject: Legend in SAS/GRAPH
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to: sas-l@ohstvma.acs.ohio-state.edu

Platfotm: IBM MVS
Product : SAS/GRAPH
From : Imad Ghandour
Contact : imad.ghandour@mail.admin.wisc.edu

I am trying to customize the legend when using PROC GPLOT so that
instead of the standard numerical legend I will have some
meaningful text. The following code is used:

PROC GPLOT DATA=FINAL;
BY GROUP;
PLOT MBYTES * DATE = CAT / CAXIS=MDBLACK CTEXT=MDBLACK;
SYMBOL1 I=JOIN C=LTBLACK V=NONE W=2;
SYMBOL2 I=SPLINE C=MDBLACK V=NONE W=2;
SYMBOL3 I=RLCLM CV=MBBLACK CO=LTBLACK V=NONE;
LEGEND LABEL=NONE VALUE=(T=1 'ACTUAL' T=2 'SMOOTHED' T=3 'LIN.REG.');
TITLE1 'HISTORICAL DASD INFORMATION';

The legend part is not working. Instead of having the customized
legend entry labels, I am getting numbers. Anyone has any idea what
I am doing wrong ?????


Imad Ghandour
University of Wisconsin - Madison

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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 09:28:00 CDT
Reply-To:     Deb Cannon 319-335-6321 <ADPDKHTS@UIAMVS.BITNET>
From:         Deb Cannon 319-335-6321 <ADPDKHTS@UIAMVS.BITNET>
Subject: Re: does 6.07 need more quota than 6.06 or else? Please help.

> Dear SAS-Lers:
>
>         Here I include some note messages from two runs of ONE program.
> It worked fine on version 6.06 but failed in version 6.07 on the same
> platform, saying 'insufficient space' in the 2nd data step or
> 'insufficient memory' if sort the 1st dataset.
>
>         Could anyone please tell me what shall I do to solve the problem?
>

       It is probably in the batch procedure that you were given to
       run the program with.  In Version 6.06, a blocksize of 6144
       was recommended, and in 6.07, a blocksize of 23040 (for a 3380)
       (half-track blocking) was recommended.  Your installation
       representative *could* have adjusted your total work space
       downwards in changing the WORK parms for 6.07.  I have no idea
       what your procedure looks like, but there might be a parameter
       on it to allocate more work space, like this:

          exec sas,work=('xxxx,xxxx')

       or you could do it by having another DD card:

          sas.work  dd   whatever

       In either case, if you're not comfortable with JCL (I'm assuming
       MVS here, you don't say (PLEASE DON'T FORGET YOUR PLATFORM!))
       call your local support center.   Especially if you're not
       comfortable with space requests, call.

       Whatever, the details of the problem, you need more WORK space.
       From what I've seen 6.07 runs much more efficiently than
       6.06, but you ran out of space so early that it can't be
       a simple version difference (can it?).

       In my (humble, of course) opinion, your job is not that big
       and the WORK dataset size should be adjusted, you should not
       have to do it, but I don't know your site's personality,
       so I could be blowing smoke.  On the other hand, they could
       have been burned many times by novice users requesting
       much more space than they needed, and, out of prudent
       self-interest, restricted it to a point they thought
       was reasonable.

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:15:14 CDT
Reply-To:     Phil Wood <PSYWOOD@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
From:         Phil Wood <PSYWOOD@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      Proc Calis- Interp. of Standardized Solutions w/Intercept

SAS: Any platform version 6 & higher.
Here's what I hope is a dumb question:
What interpretation, if any, do the standardized solutions of Calis
have when you wish to model an intercept from an Augmented data set
with Uncorrected Covariance?
more specifically, from the Calis manual:
Proc calis ucov aug data=goldb rdf=3 Method=ml print mod;
lineqs Y=a intercep + g1 x1 + g2 x2 + g3 x3 + e;
std e=var;
gives me the normal everydat unstandardized regression weights of
proc reg with the intercept included.
The standardized values, however, do not match the standardized betas
from Reg.
Am I technodweeb for thinking that these should be the same?
Or have I confused some way of standardizing?
(I realize I can get the standardized estimates by not specifying the
intercept- then things match up- this is just my curiousity
rearing its ugly head....)

Let me know what you think- I'll summarize and/or publish a mea cupla.
Please direct all flames to me-
I hope I'm being at least creatively ignorant this time....
Phil
psywood@mizzou1
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:50:12 EDT
Reply-To:     Greg Nelson <GNELSON@UGA.BITNET>
From:         Greg Nelson <GNELSON@UGA.BITNET>
Subject:      SAS datasets ====> .wks

Does anyone have any experience in working with transferring data from a SAS
dataset to a lotus or Excel file?  I know that there was a meeting of the
BASAS last spring that dealt with what I think is the same topic.  If anyone
has worked with this or perhaps Claire is listening, please let me know...

Thanks in advance...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   Greg Nelson                       Bitnet:  gnelson@uga
   UCNS - Client Services             Phone:  (706) 542-5359
   The University of Georgia       Internet:  gnelson@uga.cc.uga.edu

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 14:03:56 EST
Reply-To:     Evan Cooch <ECOOCH@PENNSAS.UPENN.EDU>
From:         Evan Cooch <ECOOCH@PENNSAS.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      SoftPC info...
Comments: To: sas-l%marist.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu

A couple of people have asked about SoftPC, thinking it was available only
for the Mac.

Nope, the same company puts out DOS emulation software for LOTS of different
platforms, including the RS/6000 line. It is getting better (last version I
tried on a fairly quick workstation ran like a 386SX-20 with VGA resoluton).
However, like everything else, its a bit pricey.

Evan Cooch
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 09:12:52 CDT
Reply-To:     "R. Snyder" <rsnyder@LOBBY.TI.COM>
From:         "R. Snyder" <rsnyder@LOBBY.TI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Help with Assist - Again :-)
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              92 8:34 pm

The question:
>
> I am having trouble with PC/SAS and the Assist package.  Below
> is a decription of the problem:
>
> The computer is a Dell 386-33MHz machine, running DOS 5.0.
> I am not sure how the memory, or how much memory there is.
> I believe he is using V6.04 of PC/SAS.
>
> 1. We startup SAS by typing ASSIST at the dos prompt.
> 2. Select Procedures from the main menu.
> 3. Statistics at the COMMAND==> prompt.
> 4. Type REGRESSION at the COMMAND==> prompt.
> 5. Fill out the regression form and then type SUBMIT at the
>    COMMAND==> prompt.
> 6. The screen changes to the three program manager windows
>    and runs the regression.
> 7. We view the output.
> 8. Typeing AF at the COMMAND==> promt returns us to the
>    top level ASSIST menu.
>
> Is there a way to return to the regression form?
>
> I use SAS on a VAX and have programming it for quite sometime.  I am
> not used to these new fangled interfaces 8-] .
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Pat
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Patrick Brooks                     | Of making many books there is no
> Bitnet:   AZPAB.ASUACVAX           | end, and much study is a weariness
> Internet: AZPAB.ACVAX.INRE.ASU.EDU | of the flesh.
>                                    |   -Qoheleth
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
Pat,

I'm running 6.07 for UNIX so my answere my be off base for your system, but
try typing ASSIST instead of AF.

Regards,

Bob Snyder, Texas Instruments, Sherman TX
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From:         MDA1@NIORDS1.EM.CDC.GOV
Subject:      SAS/DOS on RISC 6000
Comments: To: SAS-L@AWIIMC12.IMC.UNIVIE.AC.AT

I'm sure that this must have been said before, but installing a software cache
on your PC really speeds SAS up.  It improved speeds about 3 times on one
installation of ours.  Also defragmenting files will speed access.
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Reply-To:     "R. Snyder" <rsnyder@LOBBY.TI.COM>
From:         "R. Snyder" <rsnyder@LOBBY.TI.COM>
Subject:      Re: SQL delete statement
Comments: To: Don MacQueen <macq@miguel.llnl.gov>
Comments: cc: sas-l@uga.cc.uga.edu
              17, 92 10:17 am

Don points out:
>
>  proc sql;
>    delete from big, dels
>      where big.area=dels.area and big.analyte=dels.analyte;
>
> I wondered about a syntax like that, but it
> wasn't (and isn't) obvious to me that it would delete
> only from big, and not from dels. Is that so?
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Don MacQueen                   macq@miguel.llnl.gov
> Lawrence Livermore Nat. Lab.
> 7000 East Ave., L-307          (510) 423-1062
> Livermore, CA 94550
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
Don,

Howard Schreier has a reply on the list that addresses your consern. I
suspect you're right about my version. That's what I get giving hasty
answeres.

Regards,

Bob
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 10:43:36 CST
Reply-To:     jon blevins <AP16@SMUVM1.BITNET>
From:         jon blevins <AP16@SMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      paul thompson commentary

style is an absolute necessity.
names are important.
if there were no style
  then Bach would sound the same as Beethoven.

morgan blevins
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 08:10:19 -0500
Reply-To:     Kernon Gibes <gibes@SWIRL.MONSANTO.COM>
From:         Kernon Gibes <gibes@SWIRL.MONSANTO.COM>
Subject: RE: MEANS/SUMMARY and Weight Statement in 6.07
Comments: To: SAS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu@tin.monsanto.com
Comments: cc: GIBES@tin.monsanto.com

 CONTENT:   f/u on Howard's f/u
 SUMMARY:   Agree, except probably want SELECT UNIQUE...
 REL/PLTF:  6.07/ n.a.
 E-ADDR:    gibes@swirl.monsanto.com
 NAME:      Kernon Gibes
 DATE:      17 August 1992

I agree with everything Howard Schreier had to say about my response
to the PROC SUMMARY shortcut/SQL approach except that with respect to
getting the global stats (_type_=0), Howard wrote:

>Same SELECT statement, but without the GROUP BY and ORDER BY
>clauses,   should   do  it.   Also,  there  is  an  unstated
>...

in addition, you'd probably want to add UNIQUE to the SELECT statement,
as in:

   select unique myclass, /*** etc ***/

otherwise you'll get ALL the observations with the global summary stats
merged back in instead of just one observation.
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:27:00 EDT
Reply-To:     HOGE@CUA.BITNET
From:         HOGE@CUA.BITNET
Subject:      Convert and merge

Hello, Everyone,

I'm new to this list, and very new in SAS.

1. I need to read a portable sas data file and save it to a SAS DATA FILE.
   This is a huge file.  I actually need 1/4 of the variables only.
   How can I save this subset of data file in this step?

2. I need to convert CHARACTER variables into NUMERICAL variables while
   re-code every value of '-' or '&' into missing.  In SPSS, the command
   is    RECODE VARA (CONVERT) '-'=99 '&'=99 INTO VARB
   Is there an equavalent command in SAS?

3. I have another data set in SPSS system format.  I need to 'merge'
   or 'match' this file with the subset of the SAS DATA FILE.  The
   matching variable is IDC.  How do I do this?

Some simple examples would be very helpful.


I'm scared and confused by the volumes of manuals of SAS.  I tried many
times to figure out the ways to solve my problems, but the explanation
and examples are so difficult to be understood.  Why don't the SAS
people write simple manuals like the SPSS people do?  Many people
told me that SAS gives better statistical outputs.  I guess I have
to learn this no matter how painful it will be.

Thank you for any help.

Fenggang Yang
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 10:09:35 ECT
Reply-To:     Lary Jones <LJONES@BINGVMB.BITNET>
From:         Lary Jones <LJONES@BINGVMB.BITNET>
Subject:      Numeric precision

Subject:  Numeric precison and LENGTH
Platform: All
Version:  All
From:     Lary Jones
Addr:     LJones@BingVMB.BITNET

As Phil Miller pointed out, SAS always stores values in real/exponential
format. Sorry about bringing BYTE variables into the picture.

However, the following twist on Kernon Gibe's original program
illustrates my second point that SAS _will_ represent a number to as
many digits as possible, even if anything after the first N digits is
garbage. I do not want to flame SAS for this, it is merely an
illustration to serve as a caveat for unwary users.  This is exactly
what Brian Wiersema (sp??) was referring to in an earlier message.

EXAMPLE:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
11                                                          The SAS System
10:08 Wednesday, August 12, 1992

 NOTE: Copyright(c) 1989 by SAS Institute Inc., Cary, NC USA.
 NOTE: SAS (r) Proprietary Software Release 6.07  TS301
       Licensed to STATE UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK AT BINGHAMTON, Site 0009824003.

 NOTE: Running on IBM Model 9021 Serial Number 271718.


 1          options nocenter ls=79;
 2
 3          data precise;
 4            length x2 2  x3 3  x4 4  x5 5  x6 6;
 5            array xx {*}  x2 x3 x4 x5 x6;
 6
 7            do _i = 1 to 11;  drop _i;
 8               do _j = 1 to dim(xx);  drop _j;
 9                  xx{_j} = 22.0/_i * 10**_i;
 10                 end;
 11              output;
 12              end;
 13           stop;
 14           ;run;

 NOTE: The data set WORK.PRECISE has 11 observations and 5 variables.

 15
 16         proc print;
 17           ;run;

 NOTE: The PROCEDURE PRINT printed page 1.


 NOTE: SAS Institute Inc., SAS Campus Drive, Cary, NC USA 27513-2414
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1The SAS System                                                                1
                                                10:08 Wednesday, August 12, 1992

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   2         1088         1100         1100.00         1100.00         1100.00
   3         7168         7333         7333.33         7333.33         7333.33
   4        54784        55000        55000.00        55000.00        55000.00
   5       438272       439984       439999.94       440000.00       440000.00
   6      3604480      3666432      3666666.00      3666666.66      3666666.67
   7     30408704     31424512     31428560.00     31428571.38     31428571.43
   8    268435456    274989056    274999808.00    275000000.00    275000000.00
   9   2432696320   2444427264   2444444416.00   2444444444.00   2444444444.44
  10  21743271936  21999124480  21999996928.00  21999999984.00  21999999999.94
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