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From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (stoned immaculate)
Subject: Altering the states of the collective conscious
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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 17:20:38 GMT


Last night I had a strange dream in which Timothy Leary, John Lilly,
and some beautiful silent blonde girl (who was known only by an
internet adress!) stayed at my house.  The most important part of the
dream involved an experiment in attempting to alter the collective
[un]conscious.   Three isolation tanks were placed side-by-side in a
pool (?) - I was in the middle one in a suit resumbling a cross
between the movie The Abyss (my mouth, and the pool, was filled with
LSD in liquid form, as in The Abyss they had water in the lungs) and a
VR suit resembling some sort of VPL creation.  John Lilly was in the
tank next to me (wearing jeans and a shirt) and the girl was in the
other tank, wearing nothing.  Timothy Leary lowered us all into the
pool in the isolation tanks, by hand (!!!). 

At any rate, I woke up seemingly seconds after telling Timothy Leary
"Oh, you're doing experiments with altered collective consciousness!"
and Leary nodded his head, smiled, and crossed his legs.  And then I
woke up and wrote it down (I've deleted a lot of the Freudian details
in my recounting of the dream)

My memory of this dream is *extremely* vivid.  So, what I want to know  
is, outside of Leary or Lilly has any *serious* research been done in
experiments to alter the Gestalt or collective consciousness, possibly
(but not necessarily) involving psychedelics (or other drugs) like LSD
or ketamine?

(ps- Funky dream, eh??)

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Newsgroups: alt.consciousness,alt.paranormal,talk.religion.newage,alt.out-of-body
From: emery@tc.fluke.COM (John Emery)
Subject: Re: Spirit in the light of Kriya
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:26:49 GMT

In article <Bx54np.4A2@midget.yps.saar.de> bof@midget.saar.de (Patrick Schaaf) writes:
>bothers them, because it is God's will and it is good. Religion is a very old
>scientific method of programming the minds of the masses, and it was seldomly
>used for the Good of those masses (my opinion).

I would like to share that Jesus reached out to me, convinced me that He
was real, and so powerfully changed my life without human intervention.
He is real.  I have found the Bible's testimony of Him to be true!

God bless,

-- 
John Emery		"You say we've risen to a new age of light.
emery@tc.fluke.COM       You're telling me what used to be wrong
			 is now right."
From: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu (Robert McGrath)
Subject: Re: Biofeedback for meditation training...
Reply-To: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:51:47 GMT

In article <malcolm.720914929@wrs.com>, malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes in part:
|> dn5@apix.psu.edu (D. Jay Newman) writes:
|> >>>I'm not looking for entrainment devices which "force" the brain
|> >>>into meditative patterns, but rather something which will help
|> >>>me learn the proper feelings for the various states of relaxation.
|> 
|> >I care mainly because I am trying to learn to relax (for various
|> >reasons.  Using entrainment devices can force the brain into
|> >the traditional meditative patterns, but they don't help you
|> >into learning how to mediate without these machines.  I've
|> >even heard reports thant they make it MORE difficult to
|> >mediate without the machines.
|> 
|> Any pointers to actual reports that suggest this? I've heard a few  
|> people suggest that once you reach a certain state of mind it's easier to 
|> reach it again, even if getting there through different means. Lilly, Leary, 
|> and Kesey are a few folks who have suggested this, I think. And it makes 
|> sense to me; I'd even go as far as to suggest that the reasons you seek 
|> biofeedback support this; ie. biofeedback helps you learn to identify or
|> reach a certain state and once you can recognize that state you can get there
|> without it. 

"State of mind"?  "Getting there"?  "Who" is it that "learns to identify or
reach a certain state"?

As to the claim that the "entrainment devices can force the brain into
the traditional meditative patterns"--bunk!  First, there ain't no such
animal as a 'meditative pattern,' and second there is no reason to think
that any given blinking light or beeping tone is actually causing
entrainment.  And thirdly, "entrainment" is not "biofeedback" and 
vice versa.

-- 
  Robert E. McGrath
  Urbana Illinois
  mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
From: aa699@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Thomas)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Photo-CD w/Audio notes?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 19:34:03 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa699@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Thomas)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu (Doug Mohney) says:

>Will there be a way to seamlessly tie in audio notation onto Photo-CDs? Is
>there any room on a "full" CD? 
>
>Call me crazy, but I was thinking about putting together a disk of my new
>niece's pictures (unfortunately, I bet the film is SOTK (something other than
>Kodiac :) and it might be nice if, at some future date, you could put the
>sounds on there as well....
>
>Hmmmmmm. I suspect I'll end up having to do my own thing. *sigh*.
>
>					doug
>
The audio option will be available early next year...

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"True riches is not what you have - It's the kind of person you are"
From: david.shadoff@canrem.com (david shadoff)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: reading cd audio
Date: 6 Nov 92 05:34:44 GMT
Reply-To: "david shadoff" <david.shadoff@canrem.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

In message <32397@goofy.Apple.COM>, brown.c@applelink.apple.com
(Chris Brown) writes:

>I have seen a lot of comments about reading CD audio across SCSI into
>a computer. Many people seem to have the opinion that it canUt be done.
>I know of two drives that allow the 16-bit audio samples to be read directly
>from the CD and transfered into your computer: SGI CD-ROM and AppleCD 300.
>IUm talking about ordinary CD audio data, not data from CD-ROMs like Mode 1,
>Mode 2, XA, etc (we all know that can be done already).

Any idea whether the directory (and other cursory information) can
be read - by 'sector', or frame, or some kind of absolute positioning
unit ?  I ask because I'm interested in the TurboGrafx-16's CD-ROM
encoding scheme, which seems to be an extension of normal CD audio,
rather than any of the 'normal' computer-based CD-ROM formats we
hear about so often.

 - Dave
 
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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: axman@acadia.Kodak.COM (Mike Axman)
Subject: Re: Quality, Gill Pratt's msg.
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 14:45:58 GMT

In article <01GQQGRCVQ9I00158T@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU>, PAOLIVER@INDYVAX.BITNET writes:
>
>  What?? You mean the thousands of man hours (direct quote from Kodak)
>put into Photo-CD in developing Huffman coding routines and 16 different
>resolution encodings, aren't the pinnacle of imaging technology?
>  (Only those with a bit of programming background will appreciate the
>humor.)

I'm not sure I understand the point of your post.  Are you trying to say
that something is not worthwhile if it's not brand new and shiny?  
I don't know what you're experience is with regard to "imaging technology", 
but any R&D person out there can tell you that the "programming" part 
flows pretty quickly once the requirements have been defined.  Some 
of the best products available incorporate basic technologies that 
have been in existance for years.

Would you feel more satisfied if the compression were
"fractal" based, or something you'd never heard of?  Sure, Huffman 
encoding is well known and the software aspects are well understood, 
but then arithmetic coders such as the Q-coder are only "interesting"
until you've programmed them for the first time.  Does that make the 
Q-coder any less "high tech"?  If there would have been chips available
at the time, we would have probably used it. 

Additionally, there are a variety of ways to perform the sample-rate
conversion for preparing "decimated" versions of hi-resolution images.
It's not the _coding_ of the convolution or interpolation that is the 
challenge, it's the science of putting everything together in a "package" 
which provides utility or has "value added".
For example, the discrete cosine transform was coded a zillion 
different times by a zillion different people before anyone ever 
heard the word JPEG.  

Sure, most of the Photo CD image processing steps are NOT rocket science, 
and I believe that anyone with a decent level of math and "a bit of 
programming background" could code it themselves.  So what?  It's all 
relative.  I maintain that everything is simple once it's been explained 
properly.  (okay, so I'm still trying to figure out this quantum stuff)
The Compact Audio disk was old before it started;  PCM encoding with no 
data compression.  But that doesn't mean that it wasn't a ground-breaking
product.  I believe that Photo CD has similar potential, if it can be made 
cheap and accessible to anyone who's interested, and yes, this _probably_ 
means making the format information readily available for anyone who's 
interested, although CD-Audio seems to have done fine without this provision.
(of course this is not a decision for me to make)

just my $.02,
mike

-- 
Mike Axman  
CD-Imaging Advanced Development
Eastman Kodak Company
axman@kodak.com


DISCLAIMER:
Kodak gives me this Net access for free, but they aren't 
responsible for my postings.
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: pls@cibecue.az05.bull.com (Paul Schauble)
Subject: Re: Differences between the Maxoptixs Tahiti I and II????
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems, Inc., Phoenix Product Division
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 22:27:34 GMT

Are cartridges interchangeable between the Tahiti I and II? I.e., can 
something recorded on one be read on the other? In both directions?

    ++PLS

Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: rothman@tegra.com (Steve Rothman)
Subject: Re: What is the expected lifetime of CDROMs?
Organization: Tegra, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:12:29 GMT

In article <BxGEqJ.99A@ra.nrl.navy.mil> buck@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Loren Buchanan)
writes:
>The stuff I have seen repeated frequently is that accelerated aging tests
>indicate a useful life of at least 10 years.  One source claimed a useful
>life measured in decades (but I don't think I will trust it).  Besides,
>what percentage of stuff you did 10 years ago do you want to keep another
>10 years?  Well take that small percentage, and have it transfered to 
>another CD (or what ever is in vogue 10 years from now).
             ******************************************
             ******************************************
(Emphasis added)

This is a very important point.  Computer storage media, and the data formats
on it, come and go with dizzying speed.  To compare, pick up a book printed 200
years ago. It probably has just as much information to impart to you as it did
to its first readers.  Ditto for a 100 yr old photo, if it was fixed properly. 
Now, try and read a computer diskette or mag tape from 15 years ago. Pretty
challenging, most of the time. You can really have fun with punched cards or
paper tape.  Even if the media is in pristine condition, new technologies just
aren't backward compatible more than a few generations. Digital can mean
perfect reproduction, bit for bit -- just don't imagine that today's currently
used formats are going to be readable by anyone other than a researcher in a
computer museum after ten or twenty years. -Steve Rothman

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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling)
Subject: Re: CD-I and CD-ROM-XA
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:02:55 GMT

Lennart Boklund writes:
>[...] 
>Now, in "The CD-I disc...", it says that on CDs, four types of sectors are
>found on CDs. Audio, mode 1, mode 2 form 1 and mode 2 form 2. That's OK with
>me. Then they say, "...mode 2 sectors are used on CD-I discs...".
>This sounds just like XA to me.
 
Yes, both CD-I and CD-ROM XA use the same Mode 2 (Forms 1 and 2) sectors.
That's no accident, because XA derives from CD-I:

As you know, CD tracks must be composed of the same type sectors (CD-DA,
CD-ROM Mode 1, or CD-ROM Mode 2).   However, at CD data/step rates this
doesn't allow seamless playback... you might have to read a data track,
then seek to and play an audio track.

So CD-I uses Mode 2 tracks in which two sector subformats (Forms) can be
interleaved --- Form 1 for CD-ROM Mode 1 like data sectors, and Form 2
for noncritical data (eg: graphics) or compressed (CD-I levels A, B or C)
audio sectors.  This allows playing near-CDDA audio _from disc_ while
loading/displaying more data, among other possibilities.

Since this can be very useful, Sony/Philips/Microsoft got together back
in 1988 and began working on CD-ROM XA (eXtended Architecture), which
uses Mode 2 sectors.  XA is also supposed to add the lower two types (B,C)
of CD-I ADPCM audio decoding capabilities.  This is partly why CD-ROM XA
is sometimes called the "Bridge" format between CD-I and CD-ROM, altho
making a true Bridge disc is more complicated.

Up until recently, I think only the FM-Towns computer and the Sony Bookman
used XA.  Now with Photo CD using Mode 2 sectors, and more interest in
CD-based multimedia, XA has gotten hot.

regards - kevin <kdarling@catt.ncsu.edu>  (not an authority on XA, btw)
From: jack@admin.mport.COM (Jack Craig)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: gordon, i lost your addr :(
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:38:01 GMT
Distribution: alt.cd-rom
Organization: Microport Inc., Scotts Valley, CA 95066 US of A

gordon, i wanted to ask a couple more questions on the svr4 cdrom file
system you are writing. unfortuneately, i lost your address.

would you please send me an update?

thanks, jack...
=============================================================================
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             Software Horizons SVR3 408-684-1375   uunet!sco.com!blznrzn!jack
=============================================================================
From: zicheng@paul.rutgers.edu (ziqi cheng)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Can I use any scsi cd-rom player for SUN workstations?
Date: 13 Nov 92 07:17:42 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


I am wondering if I may use a scsi cd-rom player for both IBM PC
and SUN workstations. A friend of mine told me that only a few
scsi cd-rom players can be used with Sun workstations. I am hoping
that if I buy a NEC CDR-74, I will be able to use it with my pc and
a Sun IPX. Any information is appreciated.

Cheng
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: swkgohw@nuscc.nus.sg (Sir Launcelot Du Lac)
Subject: NEC CDR-84 SCSI Controller Card
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:58:03 GMT

Hail People!

I've ordered the NEC CDR-84 with the SCSI controller card.  Just like to
find out a few things before the package arrives.  Which IRQ and DMA
wouldst the SCSI controller card or cd-rom take by default?  Can they be
adjusted if it clashed with my other devices.  Currently, my SB Pro
takes IRQ 5 and DMA 1, and my Microsoft Mouse uses IRQ 7.  Would these
be problematic?

Also, I'll be trying to hook the internal audio out on the CDR-84 to the
CD-in on my SB Pro.  Would there be a problem findind a connecting wire
to do this?  The CD-in on the SB Pro is a 4 pin thingaming, I don't know
what the config is for the audio-out on the NEC CDR-84.  There was some
entry on this awhile back but I missed it.

Eagerly awaiting enlightenment.


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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: A.Grant@ucs.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant)
Subject: Re: CDROM-XA and Photo-CD
Organization: University of Cambridge
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 12:25:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.162135.999@ica.philips.nl> adrie@ica.philips.nl (Adrie Koolen) writes:
>> - mode-2/form-2 is _exactly_ the format used by audio CDs, right?
>
>No, no! Audio tracks contain blocks with no substructuring whatsoever.
>Thus no sync field, no header, no subheader and no EDC/ECC bytes. Just
>2352 bytes (1176 words) of audio samples (588 16 bits stereo samples).

Aha! I think everything is now clear. ISO 10149 (the original Yellow Book
CD-ROM standard) specifies "audio" and "data" tracks, where the data tracks
could be in one of two modes, mode 1 for error-checked data and mode 2 for
"gracefully degrading" data. Later, CD-I decided that some mode 2 sectors
could store data after all (when some of the sector was used for error
checking) and created this form-1/form-2 distinction. CD-ROM/XA is just a
specification for this, without all the other stuff in CD-I. So we have: 
  audio: 588*2*16-bit samples (=2352)
  data:  2336 data + 12 sync + 4 header (=2352) 
    mode 1: 2048 data + 276 error correction + 4 CRC + 8 unused (=2336)
    mode 2: 2324 data + 4 CRC + 8 unused (=2336)  
      form 1: 2048 data + 276 error correction (=2324)
      form 2: 2324 data

Is this right?
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: New Corel CD-ROM Upgrade!
From: pmacfar@eis.calstate.edu (Paul MacFarlane)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:18:42 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

jmaster@hfglobe.intel.com (Justin Masters) writes:
> jmaster@hfglobe.intel.com (Justin Masters) writes:
> >rjohnsto@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Russell Johnston) writes:
> >>/ hpdmd48:alt.cd-rom / jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris) / 12:39 pm  Oct  6, 1992 /
> >>aa699@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Thomas) writes:
> 
> >>>The Version # is 3.0 Rev. B-A.
> >>>The dates on the files are 7/01/92.
> >>>If you need to order it, call Corel and ask for Part #:SW-464-UPDTE-E3.
> 
> The floppies I got
> were the 3.0B-A revision, but on floppies.  I went ahead and ordered the 
> CDROM version, as my disk space is seriously cramped, and I might just start
> running it off CD-ROM.  
> Justin

Next question - 
How much did it cost to order floppies and the CD-ROM update from Corel?

-Paul MacFarlane
Danville, California
pmacfar@eis.calstate.edu

Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley)
Subject: Which CD ROMS are Photo Compatible?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:05:17 GMT

There was a message here a few days ago with a brief list of which CD ROM
players are compatible with the Kodak Photo CD ROMs (NOT the list comparing
various CD ROM player and their features). Could some kind person please
either repost this or else send me a copy? It's vanished not only from our
message area but from my hard drive as well. Thanks in advance.

Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: stuarta@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Stuart Andrews)
Subject: Re: CD ROM INC.  CATALOG REQUESTS!
Organization: CSIRO Div. Maths & Stats, CSIRO Div. Applied Physics
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:56:56 GMT

> To all who are interested in CD ROM technology.  Now there is a compnay
> named CD ROM INC.  in Golden CO.  We sell CD ROM DRIVES AND DISCS!
> We also sell an array of accesories.  We have our own CD ROM DRIVE called
> the CRI 1000.  The internal is priced at $400 and the external model is
> $500.  We have a fall '92 catalog out right now!  Soon we will be
> publishing a winter '92 '93 catalog.  So if you are looking for CD ROM
> products or just interested, We have it all!  
> The phone number is (303) 231-9373.  Or you can email
> ephillip@nyx.cs.du.edu and leave your adress and we will mail you a
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  Flames to this address^


>[other stuff removed]

> The adress is
> 
> CD ROM INC.
> 1667 Cole Blvd., Ste. 400
> Golden, CO 80401
> USA
> 
> Thanx  -*Edmund Phillips*-  employee at CD ROM INC!

OK People, we all know the rules, every so often someone breaks them.
Commercial Postings to these newsgroups are no allowed. Don't do it.
The company *NOT* to use when buying CD-ROM is CD-ROM INC at the
above address.

Take the time to post a personal flame to: ephillip@nyx.cs.du.edu


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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: jludwig@HP.UWSUPER.EDU (John Edson Ludwig)
Subject: Turtle Beach and Texel package
Reply-To: John Edson Ludwig <jludwig@HP.UWSUPER.EDU>
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 10:40:07 GMT

There was a review of the Turtle Beach sound card recently in a major pc
mag that stated that Turtle Beach would be packaging their sound card with
a Texel CD-ROM drive in the near future. Has anyone heard about this
package? What Texel drive is bundled with it? What else is in the bundle,
CD-ROMs, speakers, headphones, etc? What kind of price? Will the CD drives
be XA compatable?

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks,


John
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