From: selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering)
Subject: Re: Kuram Narayana on Periyar
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:17:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.235110.16593@udel.edu> chitoor@hercules.cis.udel.edu (Srikrishnan R. Chitoor) writes:
>In article <kat.724288073@reg> kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi) writes:
>>In <1992Dec13.213148.22568@wuecl.wustl.edu> sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian) writes:
>>>>In article <Bz5I1n.5uE@cs.psu.edu> narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayan
>[Stuff deleted]
>>
>>     The aryan racist of the net for whom everything springs from
>>aryavartha and who spends a lot of bandwidth in his racist claims.
>>Do not dream of spreading your supremacy-hatred venom all over.
>>
>>Kathiravan.
>
>I am sorry I have to repeat it, but this seems to be another effort
>at `Proof by accusation'.
>
>Please be specific as to whom you refer to as aryan racist. If you
>are referring to me, I can easily show that it is a
>prejudiced claim of yours. No where in the net have I mentioned
>about *aryavartha* (for that matter I have no idea what it is) or
>claimed that aryans are superior. In fact I don't even believe
>in any of the superiority stuff.
>
>   Try to be responsible before accusing someone of being anything.
>I hate the politice of HATE, in whatever form it is. If periyar
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>had wanted to just fight fundamentalism, he could have gone about
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>it without preaching hatred, in some constructive fashion (without
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>hurting the sentiments of the people). If he had limited his actions
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       As I understand Periyaar was fighting Establsihment- the
       social strangle-hold. You talk of 'sentiments of people';
       Did you honestly think of the attrocities committed on the majority?
       Basic education and common rights were brutally denied..
       If any one opposed, they were mercilessly beaten after being tied to the
       trunk of the tree such as puLiya_maram ( = Tamarind tree)..
       There were people who were denied even using any mud pots except
       broken ones.. there were some who are 'unlookable' !!
       Did you think of the REAL suffering of a dear fellow..blood
       dripping, families driven or raped.. Please don't talk of
       "hurting sentiments of people" without pausing for a moment
       to think the millenia of oppression - REAL PHYSICAL and PSYCHOLOGOICAL
       suffering.  

>to just spreading his messages by explaining the virtues of what he
>believes, I would be perfectly happy accepting him as a leader.
>This is just like an american organization preaching hatred against the 
>minorities.
>
>    If you seriously believe that periyar was not a racist, please
>present arguments supporting your case. I would especially be 
>interested to know why he chose to preach hatred instead of
>the second approach I mentioned in the previous paragraph.

         If some preach hatred and strong discrimination, would it be
         wrong to preach against this or those that practice these ?
         Please answer me honestly. I am NOT a periyaarite ( because
         I am a theist) but I think
         he was one of the few who had really shaken our society as we 
         knew it with the least amount of violence ( does not mean no 
         violence was there; true he might have cut the sacred thread of
          some or 'kudumi' of some; he could have broken idols; BUT 
         think of the blood dripping as a result of continuous beating
         or whiplash, raping, and denial of basic rights and generations 
         of dishonour perpetrated..).
         I think it is important to view these in proper perspective.
>  
>-Krishna.
>Opinions are mine.

          Regards
          Selva
         

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