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From: ebail@ctp.com (Erik Bailey)
Subject: Re: ULTIMATE ACID MOVIE!!
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:16:50 GMT

In article <ringo.722215674@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> ringo@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Ringo) writes:
>ac@cheshire.oxy.edu (Aileen Cho) writes:
>>  Koyaaniqatsi?  Blue Velvet? 
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Wholly shit. I saw that with Philip Glass live in Burlington. Nothing but
>NOTHING has fucked my head more than that flick. I didn't know whether to
>laugh or to cry when it was over. So I did both. I have never seen it
>tripping, but I think that that, Koyannisqatsi, and its sister movie
>Powaqqatsi would be WAY heavy. In other words, give it a go!

Powaqqatsi -- saw it tripping -- blew me away (BTW - *buy the soundtrack!!!*)
Koyaanisqatsi -- saw it sober -- blew me away (not quite as good a soundtrack)

Go figure. :-)

--Erik

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From: mrichey@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Mike Richey)
Subject: Re: Shroom advice needed...
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:16:43 GMT

In article <Ef2l4mG00VAw46IlVX@andrew.cmu.edu> "Daniel S. Efran" <de0t+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.alt.drugs: 18-Nov-92 Shroom advice needed... 
>Eliot Frick@camelot.brad (371)
>
>> My question is simple:  What should one expect when using shrooms?
>> I have heard that there is vomiting involved.  True?
>
>False, as far as I know.  Perhaps you're thinking of mescaline?

I have become sick from Mushrooms and LSD. I believe the FAQ mentions
this side affect. More sick from Peyote, and San Pedro cactus though.

>
>> Is there anything else one should be wary of?
>
>Walking in front of cars?  
>
>Seriously, it's roughly the same as LSD:  do it with (a) friend(s), make sure 
>you can get safety & privacy if you want them, eat well in advance because 
>you may not want to during the trip, don't do anything stupid
>(guideline: if it's 
>stupid when you're straight, it's probably still stupid).  You may get
>mild stomach
>discomfort, but it's generally not a big deal -- just ignore it.  (Food
>probably
>helps.)
>
>

good advice.
From: aoo@po.CWRU.Edu (Akinwale O. Olugbile)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: what is too much...
Date: 18 Nov 1992 18:25:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aoo@po.CWRU.Edu (Akinwale O. Olugbile)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


When would you say that a person has gone too far on a PARANOIA trip...
	I mean if it's to be effective it should be believable, but where
do you set the barrier, and say that you've gone too far..????
-- 
One can only truly appereciate moderation until they have experinced excess!
Games without frontiers, War without Tears<==Peter Gabriel
I see you lying to me... Death to the weakling! Wealth to the strong!
disclaimer:===> This is all a lie and I don't believe a word of it......!!!
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: amessing@willamette.edu (Adam Messinger)
Subject: Blotting Acid
Organization: Willamette University, Salem OR
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:24:02 GMT

Does anyone out there know how acid is normally blotted?  Is the blotter
dipped in a tray containing the liquid or is a pipette used to dispense it
square by square?  How is the dosage controlled?  Thanks for your help...

adam


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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Acid consumption
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:08:28 GMT

saumure@bnr.ca (Roch Saumure) writes:
: 
: I know a FOAF who has taken appr. 60 LSD tablets in a period
: of 3 years. I'd like to tap the wisdom of this newsgroup and 
: ask the following:
: 
: (1) In comparaison with other LSD users, is this FOAF drug usage
:     above normal? Can we say he is abusing the drug? What is the 
:     average acid consumption for a user from your experience?

Not really. That is only about twice a month - on average. Higher
than most users, probably - but certainly not unusual.

Note that abuse has nothing to do with frequency of use. You can 
use a drug only once every ten years, and still be abusing it. You
can use the same drug every day, and not be abusing that drug. It
all depends on how  you handle the physical and mental effects that
the drug might be having on your body.

: (2) His peak consumption dates to about 5 years ago. Since then,
:     he only took a couple (5 or so). He did not experience any 
:     flashbacks at all. Should he expect secondary effects (flashbacks,
:     schizophrenia,...) in the years to come due to past LSD usage?

No, why should he. LSD tends to cause immediate effects. If he did not
have flashbacks (due to the strong emotional experience of using the
drug - not by the drug itself) over five years of usage, then it is
highly unlikely that he will do so in the future.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: 891666t@dragon.acadiau.ca (Trish Turliuk)
Subject: Re: two mj questions
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:09:09 GMT

lemay@netcom.com (Laura Lemay) writes:


>Two questions --
>Has anyone in the bay area run across this stuff?  Does anyone happen
>to know if its really from Stanford, or if its just a really good
>batch of weed floating through the area?
Uh, I'm in Canada ;)

>So I draw upon the wisdom of the net -- did we just happen upon some
>*really* strong pot?  Is this what's supposed to happen in extreme
>amounts?  Or was it treated with something, and if so, what?

It sounds like it had some sort of chemical application. Was it hydroponic?
A FOAF had a similar experience with hydrop. mj that had been treated with
a chemical.

TR.
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From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: acid and sickness
Organization: Microdata Oy
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 11:36:19 GMT

pfcouvar@unix.amherst.edu (Peter F. Couvares) writes:

>	Nausea from LSD is not unusual, and my suspicion is it's due
>more to anxiety or tense-ness than it is to anything "in" the acid.

I was under the impression that the nausea was due to the parasympathomimetic 
activity of the drug. I believe that this is also mentioned in the FAQ.
--
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From: pfcouvar@unix.amherst.edu (Peter F. Couvares)
Subject: Re: "ex" smokers of MJ
Organization: Amherst College
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:02:56 GMT

jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez) writes:
>mleayr@nyx.cs.du.edu (matthew leayr) writes:

>>     I know several people who used to smoke large amounts of marijuana
>>but no longer touch it because it "freaks them out too much" or they "cant
>>handle it". When quizzed as to why they don't smoke anymore, they are often
>>reluctant to even talk about it and shrug it off. This puzzles me.

>Some people feel paranoid when they smoke marijuana.  Here I am using
>"paranoid" in a colloquial sense, as opposed to any psychological
>definition thereof.  I.e., they feel marijuana makes them alienated,
>unable to relate smoothly to people, nervous, depressed, nihilistic, or
>whatever.  Some people I know got to feeling this way after smoking a
>lot even though they liked it initially.  It's easy to imagine why
>people you know might be reluctant to discuss it... they don't want to
>go back those unpleasant moments, or have people think they are weird.  
>
>This is an interesting phenomenon... I wonder if it's understood at all
>why this happens to some people and not others, why it happens when it
>does, etc. --- probably not!

It actually happened to me for awhile. I had been smoking pot for
about a year and half, when it began to make me relax less and worry
more. My anxieties would occupy my thoughts, and I wouldn't be able to
have much fun. I'd find myself concentrating on the bad stuff going
on, whether that was some social dynamic or just a sore foot. I was
unable to ignore it--kind of like telling yourself, "don't think of
the word 'chicken' for five minutes". It's just impossible. Anyway, at
first I sort of denied even to myself that pot wasn't so much fun
anymore, simply because it had been so much fun, and such a great part
of my life, previously. But I finally did deal with it, and actually
managed over the  course of a year or so to get back to my original
pot use, where I was capable of relaxing and enjoying myself again.
It's hard to explain exactly how I did it, but I basically just
rationally worked out what was going on. I think a lot of it had to do
with the fact that it was a pretty turbulent (though not neccessarily
bad) emotional time for me.

Anyway, the long and short of it is: it happened to me, I was very
unhappy about it, but realized there was no good reason for it to be
happening and slowly worked my way out of it completely. I look back
at it now as just an odd mental trap.

-Peter

pfcouvar@unix.amherst.edu (Peter Couvares)
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From: tedwards@eng.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.rave
Subject: Re: N2O Action
Date: 23 Nov 92 03:40:56 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1ep3ggINNrn9@agate.berkeley.edu> shirriff@sprite.berkeley.edu (Ken Shirriff) writes:
>"The basic principle that lipid solubility of anesthetics governs anesthetic
>action remains viable.

Wierd...ok, it sounds like the effects are very well known, but involves
changes in synaptic membranes in many locii of the brain.

So what are known (i.e. peer-reviewed) effects of occasional and
long-term use of N2O?
From: eastmer@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Gravity Pipe?
Date: 22 Nov 92 20:51:56 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

This is kinda a responce to the Gavity Bong! talk.

I have some friends that smoke a good amount of that SFT (special funny
tobacco) that some people mentioned, and occasionally we have used a
device which we have been calling a gravity bong.  The thing is that what
we have been using is quite different from the gavity bong that was discussed.

Here is ours(what ever it is called):

             _|__|_    <- bowl
            |______|   <- bottle screw top
           /        \  <- 3 liter bottle with the bottom cut off
   \      /          \     /  
   |     /            \    |   <- bucket
   |----|--------------|---|
   |    |              |   |
   |    |              |   |
   |    |    H2O       |   |
   |    |              |   |
   |                       |
    \_____________________/

This works well.  Just add your SFT, light, and slowly raise bottle to 
draw great hits.  By keeping the level of water inside the bottle just
barely above the water in the bucket you can get the best thickest hits 
ever.  Then unscrew the cap, put your mouth over the hole and push down.

So my question is(for any of you out there who would know):  What is this 
extremely fun contraption called?

Eric.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ringo@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Ringo)
Subject: Re: Physiological Effects of LSD
Organization: Clarkson University
Distribution: alt.drugs
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:11:37 GMT

muwjt@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (William J. Taney) writes:

>Does anyone know what kind of interaction LSD would have with drugs that
>are intended to effect seroronin activity such as PROZAC (Flouroextine I
>think).  

Interestingly, there is a thread on PROZAC in sci.med right now. This
might be a good thing cross-post there. On a biochemical level it would
probably not be difficult to guess the effects these two chemicals would
have on each other. It depends on what PROZAC does. Is it an antagonist?
Does it enhance/block reuptake or degradation of serotonin? For instance,
mono-amine oxidase activity cleaves the NH2 group off of the end of the
serotonin molecule, and replaces it with a double bonded oxygen (it also
gets rid of a hydrogen), marking it for excretion.
PROZAC could have numerous effects, some would cause a difference in LSD
activity, others might not.

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From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: coke..
Organization: Microdata Oy
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:08:18 GMT

jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen) writes:

>   Cocaine has a fast metabolism.

   Whoops, I'm not completely sure if this is a valid expression. Before any
net.wise-ass comments on it, let me correct myself: "Cocaine is rapidly
metabolized".
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		  Religion is the DMT of the masses.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: mcbeeb@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Brian Mcbee)
Subject: Re: Need info on X and Nitrate
Keywords: X and Nitrates
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 05:20:42 GMT

In article <Bxx6uA.EKE@unix.amherst.edu> lygariba@unix.amherst.edu (LISA YVONNE GARIBAY) writes:
>hello.
>This is my first posting, so no flames, please.
>
>I need some information on ecstasy and nitrates.   First, I was wondering
>if anyone could tell me the average price per pill/casule, and give me any
>origins of the drug (i.e., where and when it was first developed/used,
>where the best places are to get a hold of it, etc.).  As for nitrates, or
>"poppers":  I have heard that these are great to use, with no side-effects
>or long-term effects to worry about.  They were very popular in the sort
>of underground subculture of the 70's and early 80's (some referred to it
>as the drug of the sexual deviants), and I know they are still in existence
>today though under a new formula (that has not been made illegal yet).
>If anyone can tell me where and how to procure a few pills, it would be
>much appreciated.

Poppers were Amyl Nitrate, a volatile liquid sold in capsules.  You broke
open the capsule and inhaled the vapors.  I believe it is a short term 
vasodilator.  I don't know if these things are still available, but in
my youth the local "adult" book store use to sell various similar items in
small bottles.  I think there were several formulas, one was butyl nitrate.
Excess use led to headaches.

>Thanks a lot,
>Lisa.
>
>e-mail to:  lygariba@unix.amherst.edu
>         OR lygaribay@amherst.edu
>

Any time.
From: feinstei@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Shroom advice needed...
Date: 20 Nov 92 03:30:56 GMT
Organization: Sonoma State University

In article <billie.722049091@camelot>, billie@camelot.bradley.edu (Eliot Frick) writes:
> 
> My question is simple:  What should one expect when using shrooms?
> I have heard that there is vomiting involved.  True?

Well, it might be if you get good and drunk first. You might be thinking
of Peyote. Have you read any of Carlos' books about old Dan Wong and 
that whole scene?

> Is there anything else one should be wary of?

Umm, just off the top of my head, Greeks bearing gifts, false 
prophets, and the dog.

> Danke.

  ^^^^^ I liked his _Inferno_ very much.

Peace unto you all, brothers and sisters.

> --
>                          billie@camelot.bradley.edu

Josh
From: mjcrouch@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Matt J. Crouch)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Brands of LSD
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:10:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dept. of CS Ball State University Muncie IN


Sorry about my relatively low level of experience w/LSD, but i am
curious as to which brands of acid (white blotter, blue sperm,
rocketship, etc.) produce best visuals, are less/more potent, etc.
Any input appreciated.  And to the guy who viciously flamed me eariler
for not knowing about physiological effects of LSD, i re-checked my
sources, and thank you for setting me straight.  Just try not to be such
a dicknose snob about it, if you will. =)


Organization: Junior, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 22:16:26 -0500 
From: "Aaron R. Miller" <am49+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Pupil Dilation

On 22-Nov-92 in Pupil Dilation               
user Bunweasel@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>Does [A] normally dilate pupils?   To an uncomfortable extent?
> 
>If your pupils were dilated (for whatever reason), and you'd rather
>they weren't what would be a good way to deal with this?
> 
>*Just handle it?
>*Wear dark glasses?
>*Take something to shut them down a bit?  [If so, what?]
> 
> 
>--L'Ouisel Du Buns

i think that there's a direct relationship between the dilation and the
hallucinations.  Cause sometimes shrooms, which dont usually produce as
intense visuals also dont produce as dilated pupils as acid does.  if
you dont wear glasses, its pretty obvious (to someone who knows anything
about it)

aaron
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Subject: Re: help me!
From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:20:41 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

Niacin (also called Niacinamide, or vitamin b- ... 12 I think) will
help counteract the psychological effects of LSD. Start with a 4gram dose,
and wait a day or so to see if it helps; don't overdo it.

-- 
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Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:59:46 -0500 
From: "Daniel S. Efran" <de0t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Shroom advice needed...

Excerpts from netnews.alt.drugs: 18-Nov-92 Shroom advice needed... 
Eliot Frick@camelot.brad (371)

> My question is simple:  What should one expect when using shrooms?
> I have heard that there is vomiting involved.  True?

False, as far as I know.  Perhaps you're thinking of mescaline?

> Is there anything else one should be wary of?

Walking in front of cars?  

Seriously, it's roughly the same as LSD:  do it with (a) friend(s), make sure 
you can get safety & privacy if you want them, eat well in advance because 
you may not want to during the trip, don't do anything stupid
(guideline: if it's 
stupid when you're straight, it's probably still stupid).  You may get
mild stomach
discomfort, but it's generally not a big deal -- just ignore it.  (Food
probably
helps.)


	---Daniel Efran
----------------------------------
An it harm none, do as you Will.
Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.
From: dalm@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: HEMP FACTS
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:39:39 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I just reviewed the three strongest pieces of evidence for the hemp
movement (in my opinion):

1. The 1942 U.S. Government film "Hemp For Victory" 
           "Long ago,  before these ancient Grecian temples were new
            hemp was already old for the service of mankind.".......
           "For centuries until 1850 ALL THE SHIPS THAT SAILED THE
            WESTERN SEAS were rigged with hempen rope and SAILS.....
            Hemp was indispensible..."

2. Popular Mechanics, February  1938, p.238; "The New Billion Dollar
   Crop" :
           "Hemp..is used to produce more than 5000 textile products
            ranging from rope to FINE LACES...and can be used to
            produce more than 25,000 products,  RANGING FROM DYNAMITE
            TO CELLOPANE."

3. U.S. Department of Agriculture - Bulletin 404;" Hemp Hurds as Paper-
   Making Material" , October 10, 1916:

           "One acre of hemp equals 4.1 acres of trees" to make paper.

These three pieces blatently expose what many want covered up. If you have not yet read or viewed these documents, I urge everyone to do so. Feel free to
e-mail me if you do not know how to get this info.  Most importantly, pass
the information on to the disinformed, misinformed, and uninformed.
Would anyone like to add any other potent documentation to this list?
Only just as or more significant as these three please.

I feel that once the majority of people understand this information, our
days of drilling oil and clear cutting old growth forests are numbered.  

All for now. Hemp Hemp Hooray!

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From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: Jell-O Killer Gets Life Term (LSD-related)
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:19:16 GMT

bower@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Tyson Bower) writes:
>Isn't that an awfully expensive way to kill someone?  I always thought
>the lethal dose of LSD was ridiculously high.  

The physiologically lethal dose of LSD is rediculously high.  What they're
talking about though could come from a dose of a few hundred mics due to
psychological stress.  Technically since it killed him, it was a "lethal
dose" of LSD, but that is highly misleading.

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
From: hagstrop@oberon.mathcs.carleton.edu (Paul Hagstrom)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Ephadrine
Date: 22 Nov 92 02:04:06 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona Physics Department

In article <1992Nov19.142439.491@lrc.edu> twiggs_te@lrc.edu writes:
> First of all, it's spelled 'ephedrine'.  I know that ephedrine HCL is
> a bronchidialator for mild asthma.  It will keep you awake, also, since
> it increases the increases the heart rate.  Many stupid people use it as
> speed.  I don't know about the others.

I've actually used a fair amount of Ephedrine in the past (as a sleep  
replacement) and it seems to me now that it almost MAKES me tired.. It still  
increases my heart rate and makes my hair tingle and all, but it really makes  
me feel like I should be asleep, even if I'm not particularly tired.  Too bad,  
since it used to work really well, I thought.. I'm not entirely sure if this is  
just my own built-up tolerance or what, but I like coffee much better these  
days..

So, I guess what I'm saying is this: it's really amazing for a while to keep  
you awake, but if you're always using it to stay awake, the feeling induces  
tiredness eventually, I think.
--
schmotsignature.
Paul Hagstrom
(hagstrop@carleton.edu)
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