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From: jem@snakemail.hut.fi (Johan Myreen)
Subject: Re: Can't get the GCC 2.3.3 to work right.  :(
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 05 Jan 93 20:59:16 GMT

In article <9301051814.AA29042@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> STDN%MARIST.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Dan Newcombe) writes:

>Last night I installed the lib.so.4.2 stuff and gcc 2.3.3
..
>was just stuff to make the other libraries.  I then untarred
>gcc 2.3.3.  I was able to compile programs, but when I compiled
>my xhello program (4 #include's and 5 lines of code) it gave me an
>exec that was over 500K (using 2.2.2 the exec was about 15K!)
>What would cause this?

I discovered I had to get a newer copy of ld when I upgraded to gcc
2.3.3. The old linker refused to link shared.

I would like to see the binutils package distributed with gcc, to
avoid problems like this, and also because the assembler and the
linker are closely related to the compiler (the compiler driver needs
them.) Commercial compiler packages come with "batteries included."

--
Johan Myreen
jem@cs.hut.fi
From: sadkins@bigbird.cs.ohiou.edu (Scott W. Adkins)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: A few minor questions...
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:06:40 GMT
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept., Athens


Ok, I have the sytem installed.  It is evidentally .99p1-46 (I think that was 
what it was when I got it...).  There is only two questions I want to ask about
right now...

1)  On the console, there is this annoying bottom line that seems to shadow
    some previous line that isn't on the screen anymore.  I haven't figured
    out what is causing it.  I am running the 132x43 display.  Has anyone
    noticed or fixed this?  (I will be looking at the console.c file very
    soon!)

2)  The network is up (Western Digital) and seems to be working.  If I am
    telnetting *into* the linux machine from another machine (not on the 
    console), the carriage return produces a ^M character.  Any way to make
    it work right?  (As it is now, I am using ^J to do the job.)

Thanks...
Scott

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From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: NI5210 ethernet card 
Distribution: world
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 04:36:38 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <ansgarr.726504610@akela> ansgarr@akela.informatik.rwth-aachen.de writes:

   Does anyone know whether there is (or will be) a driver for the NI5210
   ethernet interface ? 
   Any help about modifying existing drivers (e.g. the drivers for the NE2000
   card) would be appreciated as well.

Will be.  But my real job keeps me very busy...

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com> What canst *thou* say?
Crynwr Software           Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
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From: tmcwill@iat.holonet.net (Thomas McWilliams)
Subject: Re: 386 BSD
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 04:24:36 GMT


Tuomas J Lukka writes on 06-01-92:

> No, not yet. They're in the works, by a mailing list on ref.tfs.com,
> 386bsd-sharedlibs. The implementation is going to be rather high-tech
> (non-kludged). The current linux shared libraries do their job but

Don't you think that BSD on a 386 processor is inherently a kludge? Do
you really think that the 386 is capable of doing justice to all of the
theoretical considerations which define what might be called BSD proper? 
Worrying about the theoretical purity of shared libs in 386bsd seems 
akin to fretting over whether the fuzzy dice in your Chevy Vega are
fabricated from carbon composites. The moment it was decided to implement
BSD on the Intel architecture, "high-tech" went out the window. Perhaps
from the standpoint of a purist, BSD on the 386 is better termed an
emulation of BSD. 

> are very difficult to generate, have to have fixed addresses in the
> address space etc. 

I have heard this sour-grapes attitude from the 386bsd camp before. It
reminds me of someone I know who hasn't had a girlfriend in many years.
The reason? He claims no woman meets his high standards of beauty. Well,
it's his loss. On the apple tree there are many apples that might not 
appear so rosy, but you taste them, they are just as sweet. The best of 
theories may dissolve under the golden axioms of successful practice. 

We have had enough theory: Mach, BSD, Minix, Amoeba, etc. etc. Linus 
Torvalds did not give us magazine articles, dissertations, and theory.
Linus gave the 386 user a working advanced operating system. Others 
have given us libraries full of tomes, monographs, conference 
proceedings, and theoretical proposals. But Linus gave us a working 
operating system. And he understood the 386 processor. He examined 
the marble and chiseled *with* the grain--Linux is well matched to the 
rock it runs upon. Its design was not compromised by religious
considerations.  The efficient performance of Linux bears this out.

> One good thing about 386BSD: it's newsgroup has a LOT less FAQ's asked.

Sometimes there are benefits to a smaller user base. This is
one of them.

Thomas (tmcwill@gcr.com)  

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From: andrewc@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew J. Cosgriff !)
Subject: Re: Openlook ?
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 08:10:19 GMT

kfisher3@mach1.wlu.ca (kevin fisher U) writes:

>Can anyone out there recommend any good books on Openlook/Xview/Xwindow
>programming out there?  I found one that concentrated on Motif, and
>obviously it's kinda useless to me...

>Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Well, the one I use at work (by Dan Heller - Xview something or other, I can't
remember the full title, but it's by O'Reilly publishers, i think)
is pretty good - well, I managed to have an XView program going pretty soon,
anyway.

Good hunting !

Cos !

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From: tjrc1@cus.cam.ac.uk (T.J.R. Cutts)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: [Q] Actix GE32 and XS3 server
Date: 9 Jan 93 17:57:01 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge, England

There have been two releases of the S3 server since 0.2b; both fix problems
with (I think) the 801 flavour of the chip.  If your board's chip is a 911
(like mine is) then I don't know what the problem is.  If the chip is something
else, though, I'd suggest you get the 0.3.1 server from ftp.robots.ox.ac.uk.

Tim.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jliddle@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Jean Liddle)
Subject: Re: /usr/include/linux/<missing.h>
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 16:00:18 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University

In article <1993Jan9.110222.4284@exucom.com> kjv@exucom.com (Karl J. Vesterling) writes:
>
>	Where do I get the files that are in, "/usr/include/linux/*"
>They weren't in any of the SLS disks, or the GCC distribution on
>TSX-11...
>
>	Things don't like to compile without them.
>

Get the sources to the latest kernel 0.99.2.  Place them in 
/usr/src/linux, and make the following 2 links:

ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux /usr/include/linux
ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm /usr/include/asm

You will probably want to recompile the kernel with your preferences
while you are at it (eg sound support, no 16 MB limit, no SCSI, etc.)

IMHO Anyone running linux should have the kernel sources on-line, if for
no other reason than to have the appropriate symlinks to the source
include files.

Jean.
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Jean Liddle                                 
Computer Science, Illinois State University  
e-mail:  jliddle@ilstu.edu                  
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From: poon@jomby.cs.wisc.edu (Ka-Cheong Poon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Video card questions
Date: 8 Jan 93 06:18:22 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

I am planning to buy a video card to run X (I can only run Xmono now).
I want to know if the following cards are supported by X and can display
resolution up to 800x600 and 1024x768 in 256 colors.  And what are their
performance?

Cards: Fahrenheit 1280, ProDesigner IIs, and Speedstar 24X.

Other suggestions are welcome.

Thanks a lot.

								Poon.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hu@aurora.physics.utoronto.ca (Min Hu)
Subject: Some questions about linux
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:54:04 GMT

I have been following the news group for a while. It is very interesting, 
active, and rewarding. I have some questions. Hope somebody out there can
help me.
1. From what I read, linux can run both on ISA and EISA. I am wondering if
   linux will take advantage of 32 bits EISA bus.
2. Linux uses 386 memory management intensively. I am wondering if linux
   will be able to run on new chips, say P5 (Intel) and 586 (Cyruss, maybe
   the spelling is wrong?)
3. Two of my friends have 486. Another friend of mine will buy two 486 some
   time this month. We are interested in doing some experiement with linux
   First, we want to network PCs through ether net. One machine runs as 
   network server, other machines run as individual nodes on the network.
   We want to test ftp, rlogin, telnet, UUCP, email, etc.
   Second, we want to network PCs through ether net. One machine runs as
   file server, other machines run diskless. We want to test NFS, X window,
   etc.
   I am wondering if it is possible to do above two experiements. Does SLS
   include all the softwares for above experiements?
I am not in computer science. But I like to hack computer around. So if there
is something I posted, looks stupid from the viewpoint of computer science, 
I apologize in advance. Hope to hear your opions.
Thanks

MIN HU


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From: umrose05@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Dave Rose)
Subject: [WANTED] diffs for the following:
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:20:21 GMT


Hello,

	Recently I went and upgraded my system with the libc4.2 libraries
and gcc 2.3.3 (i486), installation seemed to go fine, and lots of things
seemed to work ok. Only now a few days later am I realizing that all is
not well. The problem is, I don't know exactly WHAT is broken, so I've been
trucking along re-compiling what I can and seeing if things have improved.

What I am looking for is the diffs for:

smail3.1.25 or later, but please specify what/where you got the source
so that the diffs I apply will succeed.

cnews (I was using the one that came with newspak)

nn6.14 (also from the newspak)

I've tried re-compiling them from the sources I had, but all now fail,
whereas before they did not.

I am using .99pl2, libc4.2, and gcc 2.3.3

Thanks in advance!

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Wanted: a tar.Z of someone's /usr/lib/uucp/* files.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 06:55:46 GMT

Marc G Fournier (marcf@nexus.yorku.ca) wrote:

: 	I'm not sure why, but if you do a uucico, even -x9, it seems to run
: it in the background...you have to actually look in the 'Debug' file

It's because Ian Taylor *wants* it that way... :)
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: terland@idt.unit.no (Svein Terland)
Subject: WANTED: Another windowmanager than TAB.
Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 14:11:16 GMT

Hi!

I`m used to Motif windowmanager, and I wonder if there are someone out
there who knows of a similar WM that is available from an ftp-sight.
Preferably I would like the binary file.

Thanks in advance.

-- 


                               - Svein -

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: kankkune@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Risto Kankkunen)
Subject: Re: BUG of feature: cannot move `foo' accross file systems
Organization: University of Helsinki, Department of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 08:30:22 GMT

>You just explained why it *doesn't* work.  It is a FILE containing
>that name.  Files simply don't move across filesystems very well.

They probably don't move very well, but they do move. And its somewhat
annoying, if you have a directory with gcc and symlink cc -> gcc and try
to move that to another partition. The plain file gcc gets moved (i.e.
copied and unlinked) but the symlink not.

Well, I'll probably have to get the mv sources and modify them a bit...




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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: rsocia@alberti.cray.com (Rick Socia)
Subject: SLS 0.99.2 on 1/4 inch tape request
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 12 Jan 93 12:12:27 CST

I am looking for someone who has the linux (ala SLS) 0.99.2 up and running,
and has a 1/4 inch tape drive on their system.  I have a SCSI QIC-150 tape
drive, and am willing to compensate someone to make a tape for me.

-- 

Rick Socia
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: dws@engr.uark.edu (David W. Summers)
Subject: LINUX vs. SCSI vs. LILO vs. OS2/BootManager
Summary: I'm having problems with LILO 0.8.
Keywords: LINUX SCSI LILO OS2 BootManager
Organization: University of Arkansas
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 06:05:16 GMT

Hello Linuxers,
   I am having problems trying to boot LINUX 0.99.2 from SCSI with LILO 0.8
(+ the patch) from OS/2 BootManager.  

Could someone who is booting from SCSI and/or Adaptec AHA 1542B please send
me the command to install LILO and make it boot from the SCSI drive?

It used to work for me with LILO 0.4 and I stuck with that until the kernel
required an upgrade to LILO 0.7.  That's when it broke and now I'm trying
0.8 and it still won't work for me.

I am trying to boot from primary partition /dev/sda4 with the /Image kernel.

My current situation is that when I try to boot LILO from OS/2 BootManager
it prints out "L" and then the disk goes into a loop trying to read something
and never comes out of the loop until I reboot.  According to the LILO docs
this means that LILO can't find the partition information but I have that in
the /etc/lilo/map and it hasn't changed since late last summer.

I know that this is probably a one-line command to install, but I've tried
EVERY combination of parameters that I can think of and nothing seems to
work.  I can even get it to boot off of floppy but not the hard disk.

   Any help or information would be appreciated....even gentle flames!  :-)

   - David Summers
   (dws@engr.uark.edu)

-- 
                         "Never under-estimate the bandwidth of a station-wagon
David Summers             full of tapes, hurtling down the highway."
dws@engr.uark.edu         - Tanenbaum, "Computer Networks"
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu (David Giller)
Subject: Re: Pentium P5 (586) vs. i486 upgradable socket?
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:56:26 GMT

taudas@ais.org (Tony Audas) wrote:
>as i understand it, pentium is a 64bit processor and so requires a diff
>mb design.  the word is that there will be a pentiumSX (64bits internal
>and 32bits external) that will go in a standard 486 mb/socket.

Don't want to start something here that should be in some *.arch.*
group, but the P5 is 64 bits data bus, but still 32 bits internally.
The "overdrive" chip is supposed to be a 486 chip that is sped up
based on the new technologies in the P5, and is 32-bits internally and
externally.  If past experiences are anything, the P5SX sill be some
marketing ploy.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ssandke@ADS.COM (Steve Sandke)
Subject: <Alt>-F[234] doesn't get me to another console.
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:38:43 GMT

I've got the latest version of SLS installed, and I'm having a problem
with the Virtual Consoles.  The FAQ says to get at the different VCs, you
simply hit <LeftAlt>-F[1-4].   Well, I do that, and all that happens is
the system beeps, and the letter A,B,C, or D comes up (for F1-4 respectively).

Any ideas?
From: bet@sbi.com (Bennett Todd @ Salomon Brothers Inc., NY )
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: A discipline for packages
Date: 7 Jan 93 04:22:46 GMT
Organization: Salomon Brothers, Inc.

In article <FOX.93Jan2230832@graphics.nyu.edu> fox@cs.nyu.edu (David Fox) writes:
>Furthermore, I don't think that this would involve terribly many
>symbolic links.  Most files which go into places like /usr/lib
>don't really *need* to be there.  They just have nowhere else to
>go.  For example, stuff like the tex fonts could go in /packages/tex.


I'd rather see compiled-in paths (for things like files you'd put under lib)
be /usr/lib/pkgname/* for system core stuff and /usr/local/lib/pkgname/* for
minor packages. This is only one more link, and the resulting executables
work fine even if someone wants to unstall them somewhere else besides
(e.g.) /packages. I'd probably use /usr/local/pkg/tex, for example, if the
tex system was built to look for its lib files under /usr/local/lib/tex.

-Bennett
bet@sbi.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hlu@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Subject: Re: Library 4.1 bug/feature?  fopen("fifo","a") fails
Organization: Washington State University!
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 07:23:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.053556.24868@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> quale@spock.cs.wisc.edu (Doug Quale) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.104939.10424@serval.net.wsu.edu> hlu@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu) writes:
>>In article <1igs2mINNdpp@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> ig25@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de writes:
>>>Is it a bug or a feature that fopen("fifo","a"), where "fifo" is a named
>>>pipe, fails with an 'illegal lseek' in the 4.1 version of the library?
>>>The opinion on comp.std.unix seems to be that there should be no
>>>problem...
>>
>>That is a feature of stdio/kernel. I was told that according to ANSI
>>standard, fopen ("foo", "a") should do a lseek () to the end after
>>calling open (). But linux kernel refuses to any lseek () on
>>non-regular files.
>>
>
>If iostream works this way, it is broken, because fopen ("foo", "a")
>is *not* an open followed by an lseek.  The open must be in O_APPEND mode
>or files writen by several processes will lose horribly.
>
>To the specific point asked, I believe that lseeks are not permitted on
>pipes, named or otherwise, and so it is not a bug that Linux disallows
>O_APPEND mode on pipes.  But if iostream really does an lseek for
>fopen ("foo", "a") that should be fixed.
>-- 
>Doug Quale
>quale@saavik.cs.wisc.edu

It should be said "reverse what was done to iostream". I believe
fopen ("foo", "a") means open "foo" and set r/w pointer at the
end of the file.

H.J.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wto@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (William T. O Connell)
Subject: Re: linux 0.99.2 : Why can't I exec "reboot" ?
Organization: PC peripheral operational services group
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 07:47:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.061530.22260@news.uiowa.edu> miranda@eng.uiowa.edu writes:
>	Hello Gentlemen.
>
>After a bit of reading today in c.o.l I decided to make sure that my system had
>"the right stuff". So, I made sure of links, makefile ( I once got a finish
>one by mistake!) sound support, scsi, etc... and recompiled. No problemo.
>
>Right after recompilation I fdformatted a floppy and typed "make disk".Swell.
>
>Problem is, to test this, I 'synced' about 10 times :) and then typed
>"reboot".
>Usual message, bounce... bounce. System halts.
>
>That's it. Any ideas?
>

Change the function call 'cli()' to 'sti()' in the file
/usr/src/linux/kernel/chr_blk/keyboard.c

Then recompile - then you can reboot all you want :-)

A fix was posted, a couple weeks ago talking about ctrl-alt-del not
working with .99p2 - same problem.

- Bill        wto@ihlpx.att.com
From: janl@ifi.uio.no (Jan Nicolai Langfeldt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: [Q] Where to get *.so.2.1 ?
Date: 4 Jan 93 14:03:22 GMT
Organization: Folkeaksjonen for gjeninsettelse av Revolvermagasinet
Originator: janl@gyda.ifi.uio.no


In article <16B4C837E.PETM@ibm.rz.tu-clausthal.de>, PETM@ibm.rz.tu-clausthal.de writes:
> libraries are missing (e.g. /lib/XtVen.so.2.1). Where can I get them

They are part of Xfree86-1.1.

Nicolai
-- 
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Internet: janl@ifi.uio.no
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: pcc@s1.gov (Philip C. Cox)
Subject: SUMMARY: .FSP_CONTENT file
Originator: pcc@s1.gov
Reply-To: pcc@s1.gov
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 04:25:16 GMT


In article <pcc.726876102@s1.gov>,  I wrote:
|> I cannot copy this file to my ms-dos floppy from my unix system. Do
|> I
|> need it? What is it for? If I do need it, how do I get it to the
|> disk?
|> 
|

You do not need it.  It is there only for those people transferring
files with 
fsp instead of ftp.  Ignore it.

Thanks to Ken hockenbury and Michael Johnson for their replies.

Phil
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From: KZUPAN@stortek.com
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: KZUPAN@stortek.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:43:24 GMT

Hi
  I would like to subscribe to linux-activists digests mailing list.
Please either subscribe me to this service or send me the info on
how to subscribe. My email address is kzupan@lstc2vm.stortek.com.
                         Thanx in advance.
                          Kevin Zupan
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