HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mlelstv@speckled.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: AA sound chip. Specs?
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:15:13 GMT

In <1992Oct13.114522.90320@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au> bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
>        If I'm not mistaken, DSPs normally have 2 or 4 channels.

You are mistaken. A DSP has no (audio) channel at all.

>to 1: improve Paula to raise the base level of functionality, and
>2: add another Paula, or a Paula compatible, dedicated D/A chip
>on the DSP card. Paula compatibility/emulation keeps things clean for
>audio.device, and the ability to add a multi-voice sound chip to a
>DSP card gives A3000 owners an audio upgrade path (and A2000 owners
>if a Zorro2 version is released).

But Paula compatibility doesn't bring you 16bit samples and the
structure of audio.device is currently limited to 8 channels.

Regards,
-- 
Michael van Elst
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                                "A potential Snark may lurk in every tree."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: jazz@netcom.com (David C. Navas)
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 06:24:45 GMT

In article <35767@cbmvax.commodore.com> mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz) writes:
>In fact, if it were, most of the computers in the world (IBM-PCs, 97.4% of
>them) would be useless too.

Now you knew -someone- couldn't pass that line up right?
So, I'll take the bait.  [I have no pride]

"Aren't they"?

>and so does the marketing department and so does Lou who had stated
>that the SCSI board will be made and that highend machines will be

He's a SCSI, she's a SCSI, I'm a SCSI, we're a SCSI,
Wouldn't you like to have a SCSI-II?

;) ;)

[Apologies to Dr. Pepper]

-- 
David Navas                                   	jazz@netcom.com
Co-author of: Web Data Acq. and Anal.		dnavas@oracle.com
Upcoming products: Shadow V, Jazzbench 2.0.
From: Roger_Nordin@atb.bbs.bad.se (Roger Nordin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Avoid the Amiga 4000
Date: 15 Oct 92 07:06:31 GMT
Reply-To: Roger_Nordin@atb.bbs.bad.se (Roger Nordin)
Organization: ANet Test Bench, Karlstad, Sweden
OD-Comment-To: Internet_Gateway

> Face it, a jump from two colors to 262,144 colors in 1280x400 is a
> FANTASTIC improvement!!!

ECS supports four colours in SuperHires/Lace mode. The 256K+ mode you are 
refering to is a HAM8 mode also, do not forget that. Great for displaying 
anims and pictures I guess, but less useful for other things, as HAM is quite 
tricky for software to handle "normally".

> If there's one expansion board I'll plan on adding to my AGA
> computer, it's a 16-bit sound board.

I've heard rumours that C= is working on 16-bit sound. But haven't we all? :)

                        _       .    __
    Roger Nordin     _ //      /!Net /est Bench
 2:203/602.0@fidonet \X/  Internet: Roger_Nordin@bad.se

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From: lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Thanks for 2nd floppy info
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:47:13 GMT
Organization: City University, London

Thank you for the responses to my query on
adding a 2nd internal floppy to the A3000.

Summary:
Change a jumper on the A3000 motherboard to
'df1` from 'no df1`,
Change a jumper or switch on the floppy
drive to id #1 from id# 0.

--
Lionel Tun   (lionel@cs.city.ac.uk)
Vision Group, City University, London, EC1V 0HB. 071-477 8000 x 3889
From: John.Haubrich@mtask.omahug.org (John Haubrich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: A570 Cartridge Slot
Date: 10 Oct 92 15:41:40 CST
Reply-To: john.haubrich@mtask.omahug.org
Organization: Multitasking Systems, Kansas City
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.hardware

Commodore's press release info stated that the A570 CD-ROM drive had a
"rear cartridge expansion slot" -- does anyone know what this is? PCMCIA 
or yet another bus connector?
From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A4000 Hardware questions
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:54:15 GMT
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Oct09.155250.17752@zds-oem.zds.com> easton@zds-oem.zds.com (Jeff Easton) writes:

>  All true...  Also, unless something has changed in the A4000, most of
>the CIA pins go directly to the parallel port with no external buffering.
>All you amiga buffs that like to 'hot switch' cables without powering 
>everything off first run the risk of blowing CIA's.  In an ASIC design
>with no buffers, the stakes are even higher if you smoke it.  More $$$.

Anyone who swaps cables around with the power on gets just what they deserve
(yeah, I've done it, and I've zapped chips doing it).  The A4000 does provide
some diode protection on critical signals on the parallel and video ports.
Surface mount and higher chip integration is the way of the future, there is
no going back.  It's impossible to make any system fully idiot proof, all we
can do is maybe add a little proof against armchair idiots, and hope that
the professionals buy Macs or PCs (it seems many do).
-- 
Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Cool Advanced High-End Systems You Can't See Yet)
 "The Crew That Never Rests"  {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh   BIX: hazy
              "I got a pocket full of kryptonite" -Spin Doctors
From: wwarner@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Art Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000 is HERE :)
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:05:14 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Oct5.090051.23346@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE> Holger.Lubitz@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Holger Lubitz) writes:
>As I understood it, you weren't supposed to use both (video) ports at the
>same time. 

Why not?  I have had three monitors hooked to my 3000 from the first day that 
I bought it. (over 2 years ago)  I have a Sony KV-1311CR and KV-25DXR hooked
to the 15khz port and a NEC-5D hooked to the 31khz port.  All work with no
problems.  Yes, all at the same time.

That's like saying you can only get three drives into a 3000, when all you
gotta do is stack 2 half height drives into each full height bay.
Essentially, you can have 4 HardDrives and 2 floppy drives in a 3000 without
ever using a single expansion slot!  I've done it before.

BTW: In case anyone's interested, the cheapest SCSI expansion box is a 
     PC clone tower case (approx $100) that can handle EIGHT half height
     5.25" drives (or 4 full height, or any combination) and comes complete
     with a 230 to 250w p/s!  Later, you could always put in a $200 used 
     386DX motherboard clone............if you really wanted to.
     Then, even sell it for more than you paid for it!

     If you think about the additional money that companies are charging
     you for an external vs internal drive, the Tower Case could easily 
     pay for itself with the 1st or 2nd internal drive that you bought.
     External drives (CD-ROM,tape,floptical,Hard Drives) usually go for
     an additional $100 over their internal counterpart! 

     That's like buying new rims everytime you get new car tires!

In case you'd like to know where to purchase such a tower case, buy the
PC shopper's "BIBLE" (Computer Shopper).  This thing is "chocked" full
of great buys.  Competition brings good prices.  I buy all of my 
non-Amiga-specific stuff from the Computer Shopper.

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
William "Art" Warner (317-497-1946)      //\
ex Amiga Student On-Campus Consultant  \X/--\miga makes it happen!
wwarner@en.ecn.purdue.edu             IBM, Apple, Sun, & Next make it expensive!
From: Boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: PPS 040 & GVP HD Problems
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:04:59 MET
Reply-To: boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Distribution: world
Organization: System Information 2.0 Development
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <OA92-901-306p1_E690D8E1@piraya.bad.se> Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se (Hans Bergengren) writes:
> 
>  MP> He wanted to get a new controller to speed up disk access and so bought
>  MP> a GVP Series II hard drive controller card.
>      < ... >
>  MP> Now his problem is whenever he writes to the harddrive, serial data gets
>  MP> corrupted. Using JR-Comm, when jrcomm writes the 16k buffer to the HD,
>  MP> the next block gets a CRC error.
> 
> Classic GVP Series-II problem. It does not have to do with your memory, the
> problem stems from that the GVP problem transfers blocks so big that the CPU
> is locked out for too long from accessing the serial port, and the one-byte
> buffer overflows and produces an error. This problem even exists on GVP Combos
> Your friend could try to use DMAFix, or he could also try to lower the serial
> buffer in prefs. I run my A500/A590 at 57600 BPS, up to 5000 bytes/sec on a 4
> kB buffer. No errors.

Not DMAFix, but GVPPatch. This program lowers the size of transferblocks
when the serial port is active. Current version is 1.6. Available at most 
BBS and FTP sites. Problems are solved then... Or buy an A4000. That also
solves those problems. :-)

CYa, Paul

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From: FelineGrace@cup.portal.com (Dana B Bourgeois)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: CDTV to Amiga Via SCSI?? was :Can you connect 2 Amigas via
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 13:17:19 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <OD.6badnetOA92-901-302p0_51718221@piraya.bad.se>

As the few who've actually done said, it is possible to connect two
machines together with SCSI and read shared drives.  There are two
(that I know of) issues to this.  At the hardware/driver level and
at the file system/communications level.  Idling one machine and
reading all SCSI drives from the other is pretty straight forward.
Using both machines and reading from any of the drives could be very
hazardous.  It depends on the SCSI hardware nad driver software.
Sub-systems designed with more "assumptions" about master/slave relation-
ships will tend to be more hazardous (read that 'likely to trash things').
I dont have any figures to quote...but think about it.  If you were
designing a price-sensitive disk subsystem and it was not going to
use every feature of the SCSI protocol, wouldn't you either hard-code
defaults into the code or just ignore unimplemented features?  Multi-
mastering is one of the possible features of SCSI and it is not
implemented in any of the drivers I know of...not even available in
some of the hardware.  So as long as the two computers do not try to
'talk' to each other (master acting as slave - not implemented in most
SCSI cards) and the two masters do not try to make the same slave leap through
the same hoop at the same time, things will probably be OK.

Here's a possible product for some sharpie to design:

a 'shared' drive.  It would be a 'standard' drive mechanism of modest size.
Maybe 50-100 Meg.  It would have two SCSI connector sets (one for each
computer bus).  It would have some means of locking out one bus while a
file is open for writing from the other bus.  This would guarentee that
the file system is not munged by multiple write accesses to the same file
by two computers.  Assuming it could be brought in for about the same
price as a 'drive-on-a-card', would this not be a better sollution than
Par-net?  Costs more but is faster.

Myself, I would like to see full network capability in the OS (could be an
add-in library for extra cost - just reasonable cost) with reasonable
price network cards.  NFS is slow compared to ftp but it comes with full
file system support for multiple master access.  I imagine a world populated
by A40xx systems networked to cheap 486/586 ISA bus clones.  With NFS and X
windows, you should be able to have a DOS/Windows/Amiga environment on one
monitor with one keyboard and mouse.  Maybe thats where all the CBM clones are
going?

Dana Bourgeois @ cup.portal.com - Master of Mental Doodling
From: nilsco@ifi.uio.no (Nils Liaaen Corneliusen)
Subject: Re: MB considered harmful
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 10:46:54 GMT
Originator: nilsco@solvar.ifi.uio.no


In article <KENTD.92Oct12095515@zappa.FtCollins.NCR.com>, kentd@FtCollins.NCR.com (Kent Dalton) writes:

> With all the edu sites back in session, fighting the "war on -MB-" is
> more important than ever. I hope everyone supports the campaign to put
> MB in their kill files and make the csa hierarchy safe for humanity again.

Hey, I have not been on the net for too long, but this seems pretty ridiculous
to me. MB pointed out some interesting things about the 4000 and its display
modes, the shortcomings of mode promotion and monitor types. The serious
part of the debate that followed was very interesting, but this war is
utterly stupid if you ask me.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: kreckman@cbmvax.commodore.com (Steve Kreckman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 23 Pin DSUB Supplier ???
Keywords: DSUB, Zorro-II
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:30:38 GMT
Reply-To: kreckman@cbmvax.commodore.com (Steve Kreckman)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

The 86-pin edge card connector for the A500 expansion port is available from a 
couple vendors (see below for address list):

   Sullins EZC43DCAD
   Micro Plastics MPS-0100-43-DW-1KR

The 23-pin D-sub is a semi-custom part available from the following company:

   Foxconn DT11726-02 (female receptacle)
           DT10721-02 (male plug)

Sullins: 801 E.Mission Rd.
         San Marcos, CA 92069
         619-744-0125

Micro Plastics: 9180 Gazette Ave.
                Chatsworth, CA  91311
                818-882-0244

Foxconn (Hon Hai Precision Industry)
        930 W. Maude Ave
        Sunnyvale, CA  94086
        800-727-3699

Contact the above vendors to find the nearest distributors in your area or
they may be able to send you a couple samples if that's all you need

-- 
Steve Kreckman     "No matter where go, there you are" -Buckaroo Banzai
kreckman@cbmvax.commodore.com  or {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!kreckman
From: rhealey@kas.helios.mn.org (Rob Healey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: After the Amiga...
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:49:40 GMT
Organization: Rob's home system, Hopkins, MN

In article <1992Oct8.041034.18162@grebyn.com> richk@grebyn.com (Richard Krehbiel) writes:
=OK, I was thinking about Commodore's next computer, after the Amiga.
=Surely we all know it can't last forever, at least because the
=Motorola 68K line is being outpaced by RISC chips in terms of
=performance increases.  So what would the next Amiga look like?
=

	RISC CPU for sure. OS would be AmigaDOS module running on top
	of Mach. If C= could replace the exec core with the Mach
	core it would probably make VM a HELL of alot easier AND
	they could run ADOS, UNIX and other OS modules on top as
	well as tinker with multiproccessors and distributive
	processing.

	I hope the C= crew tinkering with the current Mach effort can
	find a way to make ADOS 5.x, or maybe even 4.x, work on
	top of Mach. It would offer a VERY exciting future for the
	Amiga line and ease the transition to RISC.

	Once DIG/RTG is done they should SERIOUSLY think about running
	an ADOS module on top of a Mach core!

	This isn't as far fetched as it would seem, the Mach core is
	reasonably small and since it is a message passing core it
	wouldn't be a completely new paradigm shift. The small machines
	could run without a VM module and the larger machines could pile
	on VM and drivers and bloat the system to their hearts content.

	With careful programming you could probably fit the Mach core +
	minimal drivers within the 512k ROM limit although librarys would
	probably have to move out to disk. B^(.

		-Rob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: jhc819@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (chung jason ho yong)
Subject: A2091--What kind of drams does it need?
Summary: Just bought it.  Need ram
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 04:25:55 GMT
Keywords: memory, 2091

     I just purchased the CBM 2091 SCSI card for $50 from Briwall.  What
     kind of ram do I need?  The salesman mentioned 256K x 4  dipps but
     I'd like to verify here before I buy.

     Also, what's the best source?  I've seen them for $3.10 each.  I assume
     I need 16 of them?  

     Thanks, Jason

     btw, anybody selling the chips I need, cheap?  How about a hard drive
     as well?

     email  to jhc819@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A4000 Hardware questions
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:15:15 GMT
Reply-To: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

ahansfor@ee.WPI.EDU (Andrew L. Hansford) writes:
>
>I missed any answer about the A4000 Zorro III, does it support the
>"Level II" bus operations?

The Zorro-III spec specifies Zorro-II operation.  Only incomplete
Zorro-III bus implementations would not have Zorro-II.

The A4000 has a full Zorro-III bus implementation.  Thus, it includes
the Zorro-II mode.

Note that Zorro-III is the only way to get high-performance cards
on the bus.  Zorro-II is, at this point in time, rather slow.  (Back when
it came out it was very nice...)  Basically, Zorro-II is about the
same in performance as the old IBM-PC/AT bus (called ISA)

/----------------------------------------------------------------------\
|      /// Michael Sinz  -  Senior Amiga Systems Engineer              |
|     ///                   Operating System Development Group         |
|    ///   BIX:  msinz      UUNET:  mks@cbmvax.commodore.com           |
|\\\///                     Luck sometimes visits a fool,              |
| \XX/                      but never sits down with him.              |
\----------------------------------------------------------------------/
From: jones@plains.NoDak.edu (Scott Jones (Dr. Jones))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: ** HELP ** A500 batt backed clock not found!
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:52:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.21147
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Hello Hardware GURUs,

I am working on an A500 that has a Ureka 4mb mem board in it.  The 
machine boot fine but when an attempt is made to read the battery backed 
clock, the machine comes back with battery backed clock not found.

At first I suspected the mem board (specifically the clock oscillator), 
tested the battery and it is putting out 3.6 volts.  I talked with Micro
R & D and they also suspected the clock oscillator.  After replacing 
the board the same problem still exists.

I tried a Supra 500 ram expansion instead also with a good batt and clock
and the same problem still existed!

All of these boards use the regular AmigaDOS clock commands so that is 
not the problem also.

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!  :-)

Scott..
jones@plains.nodak.edu
jones@warp6.cs.misu.nodak.edu
jones@bright.cs.misu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: dingebre@imp.sim.es.com (David Ingebretsen)
Subject: XT Bridgeboard Memory
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Reply-To: dingebre@imp.sim.es.com (David Ingebretsen)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:00:23 GMT

I use an A2088D Bridgeboard to do my taxes. Chip Soft (software publisher)
has announced that this year their software will require 640K on machines
not running Windows. The A2088 has only 512K.

What are my options to up my 512K bridgeboard to 640K?

-- 
	David

	Disclaimer: The content of this message in no way reflects the
	            opinions of my employer, nor are my actions
		    encouraged, supported, or acknowledged by my
		    employer.
From: jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Clinton/Gore liberal commy BASHING! Join the fun, NOT!
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:47:46 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

> business in the U.S.  Has it occurred to you that Commodore is a foreign
> company?

Marc and everyone else should take an international trade class or
read up on this before blasting opinions off.  If there's anything
about the American psyche that I don't like it's that people need have
no rational justification for any particular position, whether it be
ethical, political, philosophical or whatever.  Geez, you'd think you
people would get some exposure as undergraduates, but then I guess this
is just another sympton of America's half-ass treatment of global
sociopolitical policy...

> | Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
> --------------------------------------------------
-- 
jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
James Miller

_chicchai .sig no ho ga ichiban iin janai ka..._
             Enlightenment Happens?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: boberg@lysator.liu.se (Stefan Boberg)
Subject: Re: Is it silly to buy an A3000 now?
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 16:46:28 GMT

eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen) writes:

>In article <1992Oct9.210445.3309@news.iastate.edu>, Marc Barrett (now I'll have to
>go put money in the swear-box) writes:

>>   No, it is not correct.  The "promotion" feature is software-only.  If a
>>program (such as an old, unsupported utility or game) insists on opening an
>>interlaced screen, the screen will be opened as interlaced and there will be
>>nothing you will be able to do about it.

>I'm quite sure that some programmer (that's right MB, someone who actually does
>something *useful* for the Amiga community) will come up with a patch to solve
>this little problem, just like they have for PAL/NTSC.

  It's already been done. Go get the `a2ntsc11.lha' archive from amiga.physik,
a program by Nico Francois.

>>| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
>>--------------------------------------------------
>>              A4000: JUST SAY NO!!!

  I'll get my A4000 on thursday.. Consider your anti-A4000 campaign a failure,
Marc.

>-Eyvind (eyvind@lise.unit.no)
-- 
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 Author of LhA, ArjA and LhArcA. Co-author of Alien Breed, Project X ...
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