Newsgroups: alt.discrimination,soc.culture.african.american,misc.education
Subject: Re: Institutional racism in education
From: ohall@milori.ccit.arizona.edu
Date: 12 Dec 92 14:13:24 MST
 <1992Dec9.000947.25195@tse.uucp> <1992Dec11.004346.6503@samba.oit.unc.edu>
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In article <1992Dec11.004346.6503@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Terry.Parks@launchpad.unc.edu (Terry Parks) writes:
> 
> All wealth opportunities which are biased on the basis of race
> are biased in favor in Blaks to the detriment of Caucasians. There does
> not exist any such opportunity restricted to Caucasians. However,
> set-aside contracts, hiring and promotional preferences, and
> educational preferences which are restricted to Blaks and denied
> to Caucasians are widespread and provide Blaks with a much greater opportunity
> to become wealthy.
> 
> --
  Man you are stone mad!!!  
  You actually believe there are all types of opportunities for blacks in 
  terms of employment, education, contracts, and promotion?

  Let me share my personal experience with you and maybe we can try and figure
  out where all my grand opportunities went, or why I was denied them.  I was 
  born and raised in Tucson, Az. I am 30 yr. old black male. I have a B.S. 
  degree from the local college(U of Arizona) in business admin with a major in
  M.I.S.  Upon graduating in 1986 I worked for $4.25/hr in my field as a 
  programmer for a 1yr. 6mo.  Positions which I was well qualified for opened up
  in the organization.  The people leaving the positions recommended me for the
  positions(I have letters).  I was continuously denied.  Affirmative action 
  in Tucson, Az. was a useless disgrace.  I relocated to San Jose.  Two of my 
  co-workers there got fired straight out. Neither had a degree, both were 
  white.  One female the other male.  Each had new jobs within 3 months.  I 
  eventually changed jobs.  I quit my second full time permanent job to 
  relocate to L.A., pre-riot, like many whites have done.  I have never been 
  fired.  I was unable to secure employment in L.A. thus becoming homeless in 
  L.A. for a year. Don't you get 3 chances in the U.S. anymore?  Can you
  imagine the feeling you get from being homeless with 4yrs. 7mo. experience 
  as a computer programmer with a bachelors degree in business.  I was 
  continually denied employment in L.A. I realize there was a recession, but 
  like Ross Perot says during economic decline in the U.S. blacks are first to
  feel it.  Why?  
 
  So now I am back in Arizona(The Racist State) working for $6.50/hr as a 
  slave.  But I look at the bright side $6.50/hr. is the most I have made in my 
  home town in my entire 25 years of living here.  
  Neither my brother, myself or any of our black friends have ever secured 
  worthwile fulltime permanent work in this state.  All of my white friends I
  went to high school with have fulltime jobs in state.  Some have no H.S. 
  diploma and none have college degrees except me.  Yet all have been able to 
  stay local and support themselves.  My parents have recently been 
  brutalized by the police in Phoenix and have had no luck in finding legal 
  representation for well over a year.  The cops reinjured my dads neck and 
  kicked my mom to the ground and said "shut up bitch".  They both have 
  spotless  A++ criminal records, but these are the cases you never hear about
  on TV or in the media.  I could go on and on, but I'm sure you get the 
  picture.  
  
  So tell me where are all the opportunities?  Maybe I'm just looking in the 
  wrong places.  
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