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From: slzm9@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap,alt.thrash,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Police seek to Ban Ice-T Performing In New Zealand
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:05:31 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Jul22.003134.22372@peponi.wcc.govt.nz>, meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz writes:
> 
>

   Interesting Description of New Zealand officials attempt to
   ban Ice - T deleted.
 
> Ice T is performing as a guest of Public Enemy on Aug 11th in the Auckland
> Town Hall. Concert perfomer sqaid Ice-T would not perform any of the songs
> from the album Body Count, such as Cop Killer.
> 
> Mr Jamieson who is concerned the concert may incite crime said: "If Ice-T
> is not using Cop Killer and the other violent material from the album 
> then my concerns hav abated but not entirely disappeared, particularly
> when the advertisment for the concert includes the silhouette of a 
> police officer in the sights of a rifle.
> 

   I may be wrong but I'll bet this silhouette "of a police officer"
is really the silhouette of a black man with a beret, that is Public
Enemy's symbol. I'll bet this official is misconstruing the black man
as a police officer because of the silhouette and the beret.
   If somebody told him the truth maybe he would relent.

   Naahh! 


Peace, but not without justice,
Zip
From: jorgrb@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Cool World
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:50:54 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

larry says:

> (nothing for 247 lines)

nice waste of bandwith!
I'm sure I'm not the only one who _enjoyed_ it!

D.K.

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From: pharvey@quack.sac.ca.us (Paul Harvey)
Subject: Lyrics: Double XX Posse: Headcracker
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:37:39 GMT

it was a Saturday in May and we was cooling at the crib
checking out the game between Chicago and the Knicks
sippin' on a forty ounce and eatin' some chicken
it wasn't Kentucky fried but it sure was finger linkin'
then I said Yo G, we need some more brewskis
so dig in to your pocket and come out with some money
a dollar bill a piece that's enough to get it started
I'll be right back y'all and then I departed
I stepped out the door and headed straight for the liquor store
reciting a funky rhyme along the way as I go
I saw this cutie pie with some light brown eyes
and told her she was looking hotter than the fourth of July
and then out of nowhere the cops rolled up
and said put you hands up
I said what the phuck?
the headcracker, the headcracker

now they got me locked up for no reason at all
and everthing was gettin' hectic so I axed to make a call
they told me not now but maybe later if you're good
I told them they was buggin' and they misunderstood
they ran into my cell and threw me down on the ground
they started stompin' on my back and told me not to make a sound
they hit me with a one two three four five six seven eight nine ten 
and I was through bookin'
I layed there in pain and more quiet than a church mouse
with speed knots growin' on my head like rocks
and then they finally told me I was there for a robbery
that happened thirty minutes just before they spotted me
but I was at my homey's house watching the game
and if you call this number they'll tell you the same
the police laughed and said to tell it to the judge
but in the meantime kid, you'd better not budge
the headcracker, the headcracker

my pops bailed me out and told me he was in shame
that I could get myself arrested and disgrace his name
I told him on the strip, you know me better that that
this is a bad situation just because I'm Black
I'm not the only brother to have a bright red jacket
and why did they have to beat me and look at me laughing
they even told me that they had an eyewitness
but she never showed up so the judge said dismiss dis
and then I told him how they beat me and kicked me
and all he had to say is he couldn't do nothing for me
I had to file a formal complaint against the city
and against the cops for police brutality
now if you're not familiar with the word headcracks
it's anything that's kind of shocking or amusing, -word!
a funny type of saying is a headcracker
a fly cutie gettin' high is a headcracker
your best friend having AIDS is a headcracker
your little sister turning tricks is a headcracker
your girlfriend playing dirty is a headcracker
Yusef Hawkins being murdered is a headcracker
Vanilla Ice makin' rekkids is a headcracker
gettin' robbed of your money is a headcracker
the headcracker, the headcracker
head cracks, head cracks
From: jwilson@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Message for Ian, w/ Apology
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:10:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.171116.57399@cc.usu.edu>, slzm9@cc.usu.edu writes:
>    I just got Schooly D's "Saturday Night" album for 99 cents out of
> the bargain bin at my "CD" store. It is easily the best 99 cents I
> have ever spent. What other albums has he done? Anything before the
> "Saturday Night" album or was it the first?
> 
> 
> Peace, but not without justice,
> Zip

Get "Am I Black Enough For You" if you can, circa `89.  DAP!DAP!DAP!, and you
won't stop.  Does the Sat. Nite LP have "PSK" on it?  Lookin' at my Guchie?
Definitely the most slept on `hopper ever.

==Phyz
From: mcsnewton@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Lyrics: Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth: They reminisce over you.
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:01:48 GMT
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <fP#zo6y@quack.sac.ca.us>, pharvey@quack.sac.ca.us (Paul Harvey) writes:
> I reminisce, I reminisce, -ugh!

I LOVE this joint!!!  How's the rest of the album, CD, or whatever??

	**Tundrea**
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From: U19807@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap,alt.thrash,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Police seek to Ban Ice-T Performing In New Zealand
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:19:28 GMT
 <1992Jul22.145428.26946@nrao.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

In article <1992Jul22.145428.26946@nrao.edu>, lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu
(Luther Miller) says:
>
>The most amusing thing about the entire _Cop Killer_ media hype is that
>the song is from a Heavy Metal band, Cop Killer (lead by Ice-T). There

The name of Ice-T's speed metal band is Body Count,actually....

>have been plenty of songs in the past that convey negative messages about
>the police, such as NWA's _Fuck tha Police_, and they were rap. Now the
>media is trying to give rap a bad name for a heavy metal song.. Pretty
>damned stupid if you ask me.

Know what I find funny and/or stupid about all this? Isn't it just a tad
suspect that the cops would be up in arms about all this when the LAPD were
caught beating the mortal shit out of Rodney King red-handed on video? This
flap about "Cop Killer" doesn't sound too much like a cover-up in many ways,
does it?

BTW,since when did an amendment to the Constitution get passed that said that
the police-or any other authority figure-had the right to abridge someone's
first amendment rights because they said something they didn't like? Is it
me,or does the spectre of _unelected_ officials pulling all this boycott crap
sound like certain people are thinking they have the Divine Right Of Kings
these days?

      ** Chris Krolczyk,esq.  * DISCLAIMER: My opinions are in **
      ** Maniac-at-Large      * no way endorsed by the Univer- **
      ** U19807@UICVM.BITNET  * sity of Illinois at Chicago.   **
      ** u19807@uicvm.uic.edu * So there. Nyaah.               **
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: ross@refine.enet.dec.com (The Vinyl Record Collector)
Subject: Re: EPMD Is Here....
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:32:10 GMT


In article <122950114@hpopd.pwd.hp.com>, gumby@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Grim Reaper) writes...
> 
> Yo in there for the 411 G, whats the album like ????
> 

I'm listening to it now alittle more attentively than the first time, and it's
dope.  On the CD there are 11 tracks, perhaps 12 on the album or tape since I'm
missing, 'Brothers From Brentwood, L.I.'  As is, it is approx 40 minutes.  Now
on the 6th track (followed by, 'Crossover'), every track is funky, EPMD style. 
K-Solo and Redman come off on, 'Head Banger,' as do DAS EFX on, 'Cummin' At
Cha.'  They grabbed alot of recent samples on the Scratch produced, 'Scratch
Bring It Back,' including KRS from, 'Duck Down,' and Quest/LONS, 'Senerio,'
Busta Rhymes sample.  Check out part 2 of this, 'Mic Doc,' Where PMD lets
loose on a different beat.  Also included is the Juice cut, 'It's Going Down.' 
Jane gets it too in, 'Who Killed Jane.'  I read the inside credits, and it
seemed like they gave a little 'shout out' to LL for his non appearance on the,
'Rampage,' video.  Could be wrong, but....

One reason I haven't been pumping new EPMD is because of my other purchase,
Mary J. Blige's, "What's The 411?"  If you're into that real R&B, check this
out!  Girl can sing.  Check out cuts like, 'Real Love,' which jacks the Audio
Two beat, 'Top Billin'', and WORKS!  Same with, 'Changes I've Been Going
Through,' which features the Bizmarkie beat, 'Make The Music With Your Mouth,'
which is a basic, 'Impeach The President,' beat, isn't it?  Also appearances by
Busta Rhymes (his own track) and Puba.

                                                      T-Dub
                                                      SGP '92



Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: agoyo1@gbroagfran.MIT.EDU (Acee Agoyo)
Subject: Re: Info on Releases.....
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 18:26:29 GMT

Gumby (the Grim Reaper) writes:

> Has anyone got any comments/reviews/release dates/marks out of 10 for the
> following :

> Epmd, Pos K, Mc Serch, House of Pain (this MUST be out somewhere by now..)
EPMD's new one, _Business Never Personal_, is coming out this Tuesday.
"Crossover" and "Brothers from Brentwood, LI" is out on 12" and it's phat.
Pos K is coming out soon, I think.  "Nightshift" is my fave song right
now.  I don't know anything about MC Serch or House of Pain.


agoyo1, one again back is the incredible
"When it comes to this, bitches know my status"

"And the way I be doing rappers in, Micheal Bivins couldn't make these boys to
men"
From: mcarlsso@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Mars)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Message for Ian, w/ Apology
Date: 25 Jul 92 10:00:48 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <XJAM.92Jul24110620@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU> xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer) writes:
>"PSK" and "Gucci Time" never appeared on any Schooly D LPs as far as I can
>remember. Here's the LPs I remember:

These tracks appeared on a Schooly D LP with orange colored
cover(the UK pressing).  There were some other tracks like 'I don't
like rock'n roll' and some cheesy cut-up tracks by the DJ scratching
lamely over a TR909 beat.  PSK and Gucci Time still kiks tho'.
Was this ever released in the US????  My copy is on the Rhytm King
UK label...


mc


-- 
_______________________________________________________________
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Organization: Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:52:33 -0400 
From: Chad Mboya-Joe Darby <cd1l+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Fwd: GEORGE CLINTONS BIRTHDAY


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From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: GEORGE CLINTONS BIRTHDAY
Summary: the bigger the headache, the bigger the pill, baby
Keywords: they call me the big pill
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:27:45 GMT

According to my calendar (Matt Greoning's Life in Hell Calendar) today
is the birthday of the man himself, George Clinton. In fact, its his 52nd
birthday. Damn! The man is older than Jerry Garcia.
Anyway, everyone be sure to be extra funky today in his honor. And crank up
the Pfunk, uncut funk, the BOMB.


not GEORGE bush for president
not bill CLINTON for president

GEORGE CLINTON for president!
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:25:37 -0400 
From: Brett_Reid@transarc.com
Subject: Re: Body Count: "Cop Killer" removed from album


cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick) writes:
> I just head on the evening news that Ice-T is removing "Cop Killer" from
> the Body Count LP because Time Warners board members are getting death
> threats from police officers.
> 

Not sure where the heck you heard it was death threats from police
officers.  In his interview, he stated that he did it merely to relax
the pressure that was being put on Time Warner in general.  

Besides - what did the ppl do:

TW Board Mem:  "Hullo?"
Caller: "Hi - I'm with your local police department and I'm going to
kill you."

Ahh - makes sense. 

Brett

:)  <-- For the humor impaired.
Newsgroups: alt.rap,talk.politics.misc
From: rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: Rocker, rapper, Mrs. Vice president?
Originator: rja@redwood26
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Distribution: usa
Date: 24 Jul 92 08:50:18 CDT


In article <1992Jul23.013031.19195@Princeton.EDU>, pswanson@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Paul Swanson) writes:
> In article <21JUL92200235@acad3.alaska.edu> fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
> >In article <1992Jul18.125753.2950@desire.wright.edu>, demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes...
> >> 
> >>	It appears Tipper may have been on an ego trip back in 1988.  She has
> >
> >>and that her children listen to rap music.
> >
> >Yeah, I'll bet you that she rushed right out to the store to buy Body
> >Count.  :-)  They probably listen to Hammer, in which case, they don't
> >listen to rap.
> >
> The amazing thing about the Body Count album is that people keep
> thinking it is a Rap album.  IT IS NOT!  Its a speed metal album (like
> the group Anthrax).

I was amazed when they played part of the song on TV.  It *is* speed
metal.  And sounded *good* musicly. (If you like speed metal, that is.)
I wonder how many people have heard the whole song?  If so, can they
say what the intro (the slow part before it kicks in) talks about?

If "cop killer" is Rap, then Wagner is Disco!

-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
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From: jwilson@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap,alt.rave
Subject: Re: Samples Galore
Date: 21 Jul 92 12:21:32 EDT

In article <1992Jul20.211054.2082@muddcs.claremont.edu>, ckukkone@jarthur.claremont.edu (CK3) writes:
> In a few months I am gonna be pressing a rekkid with 150  
> samples to sell in record stores and I need help figuring
> out which samples DJs want the most....so please email
> me with any suggestions.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> CK3


Damn!  You serious?!?!  I don't know about giving you some ideas, but I would
definitely like a copy of this.  One thing I've been trying to find is a copy
of James Brown's "Funky Drummer" on wax, it's a classic.  I'll drop some more
on ya as they come to me.

==DJ Phyz
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: fedde@Vaduz.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler)
Subject: Re: 411
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 05:10:38 GMT

ross@refine.enet.dec.com (The Vinyl Record Collector) writes:

>...
>...
>I am trusting that when the time comes again, he will.  At least you can
>count on his new album not to include any of the crappy stuff he has done
>inbetween. He's usually good about that.  Kane is going, going, gone!

Hmmmm...after what I have seen him do, I don't know if I want to risk
putting down money on him. In the old days I would buy one of his albums
without even listening to it before, or hearing what other people had to say
about it first. I just trusted it would be hardcore...but now it's 
different, and I will check out some things before I go and buy it. One thing
you can be sure of...he has lost a lot of respect among people...

Fedde (fedde@bern.docs.uu.se)
From: lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller)
Subject: Re: Punk *ss Willie From Geto Boys!
Keywords: Reverse sell-out
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Tucson Az.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:57:51 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.004932.14245@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> behan@coos.dartmouth.edu (Patrick Kalaher) writes:
>I just heard about 'Fuck Rodney King' by that dude from the Geto Boys.
>Is this some sort of reverse sell-out?  Is he trying to sell records by
>making the most absurd statement possible at the moment, AND putting even
>more tension into the Black communities across America?  Yeah, I know about
>free speech and all that, but this clown is irresponsible... Does he really
>understand what kind of pressure King was under?  And Legal restrictions?
>This shit depresses me.
>Angst,
>
>Pat Kalaher,  Dartmouth Class of 1991
>*I speak for me*


I haven't heard the song, so this is merely speculation. Many ignorant people
think that the LA riots were due only to the Rodney King verdict (don't get me
wrong-- the verdict IS the straw that broke the camels back). Maybe he's 
trying to send the message out that there was more the riots (or to problems
in the ghetto) than Rodney King-- and there is. Although personally, I don't
think I would say "fuck Rodney King"...

/lex

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From: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: alt.rap,alt.thrash,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Police seek to Ban Ice-T Performing In New Zealand
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:45:44 GMT
Reply-To: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ

In article <1992Jul22.145428.26946@nrao.edu>, lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.003134.22372@peponi.wcc.govt.nz> meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>>                       
>>Mr Jamieson who is concerned the concert may incite crime said: "If Ice-T
>>is not using Cop Killer and the other violent material from the album 
>>then my concerns hav abated but not entirely disappeared, particularly
>>when the advertisment for the concert includes the silhouette of a 
>>police officer in the sights of a rifle.


>This "police officer" in teh sights of a rifle wouldn't happen to be the PE
>logo, would it? I'm not sure how one can positively identify the figure in
>the PE logo to be a Cop.... Am I missing something?

Quite possibly it is typical of the police in NZ to take things out of
context, I've not seen the poster yet.
 
>
>The most amusing thing about the entire _Cop Killer_ media hype is that
>the song is from a Heavy Metal band, Cop Killer (lead by Ice-T). There
>have been plenty of songs in the past that convey negative messages about
>the police, such as NWA's _Fuck tha Police_, and they were rap. Now the
>media is trying to give rap a bad name for a heavy metal song.. Pretty
>damned stupid if you ask me. I read an article the other day that said
>Charlton Heston read Body Count lyrics out loud to Warner stock
>holders... (I think it was Warner-- whichever company produced Body Count).
>
>/lex

And especially the media who don't support NZ music in a postive way,
let alone overseas bands. The record label is Sire. Time Warner are the 
distributors for Body Count.

--
Red
From: jwilson@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Party In East Lansing 7-24 (Phyz' Mich. Debut!!)
Date: 21 Jul 92 12:35:52 EDT

Yo!

MSU, U of M, LCC, Cooley, Central Mich, Wayne State, UD, Oakland CC, YO!!!!!!
Announcing DJ Phyz' 1st MSU party this Fri. July 24th in East Lansing, MI, 1 hr
west of Detroit.  This function is sponsored by the African Students' Union of
MSU and will be held at Sirko's Lounge @ 1120 Trowbridge Rd., right off I-96 in 
EL.  This will be a combined rasta-world-hip-hop beat affair, and will be in
like Clinton.  Anyone in the area who wants more info can call me at (517)
332-1769 anytime.  A phat shout-out to AD in ANN Arbor with the magic beats,
he'll be adding filler at the appropriate times.  Wayne State, I wanna see
y'all here too.  Peace, dawgs.


==DJ Phyz, overqualified in the art of noise...
From: pkingi@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Police seek to ban Ice-T in NZ
Date: 24 Jul 92 11:30:30 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

On the 'Banning Ice-T in NZ' buzz ...

I heard on TV3 news last night that Ice-T's label will be sued if any cops are
killed wherever Ice-T does 'Cop Killer'. Is that insane or what.
From: mjohnson@terapin.com (Mike Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Punk *ss Willie From Geto Boys!
Date: 24 Jul 92 06:55:15 GMT
Organization: BBS

In article <1992Jul22.004932.14245@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>,
behan@coos.dartmouth.edu (Patrick Kalaher) writes:
>I just heard about 'Fuck Rodney King' by that dude from the Geto Boys.
>Is this some sort of reverse sell-out?  Is he trying to sell records by
>making the most absurd statement possible at the moment, AND putting even
>more tension into the Black communities across America?  Yeah, I know about
>free speech and all that, but this clown is irresponsible... Does he really
>understand what kind of pressure King was under?  And Legal restrictions?
>This shit depresses me.
>Angst,
>
>Pat Kalaher,  Dartmouth Class of 1991
>*I speak for me*


Well i dunno about any reverse sell out, but Willie D is basically calling king
a sellout in the song. Personally i think D's off on this one...in one verse he
says "i wish they woulda shot ya". 
its one of those that ya gottta hear for yaselves before making a judgement
tho....
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller)
Subject: Charle Barkley Commercial-- Chuck D.?
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Tucson Az.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:30:41 GMT


I just saw the commercial that eveyone has been talking about.. Pretty dope!
I don't think its Chuck D, though. It sounds similar to Chuck at first, but
especially towards the end of the commerical it sounds different enough that
I don't think it is him. (And if it was, I'm sure they'd want us to KNOW IT.)

/lex
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: kang@mari.acc.stolaf.edu (Joseph S Kang)
Subject: Who is it....?
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:25:49 GMT


I have a question.  The other night I was at a local club and they showed this
rap video on the big screen that they have there.  I didn't catch who it was, 
so I need your help.  In the video, the rapper was in a straight jacket and his
head was enclosed by a cage of sorts.  He was wearing these round sunglasses.

I need to know who this rapper is because the song was awesome.

BTW, I saw the House of Pain video for Jump Around at the club that same night,
man that is a cool song.

Thanks for all the help.

-- 
Joseph Kang      |  Disclaimer:  Whether you believe it or not, the views
kang@stolaf.edu  |               expressed in the above article are all mine.
                 |  		 Unless I've been brain-washed and don't know
St. Olaf College |    		 it or don't notice the difference. :-)