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From: balasub@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (Krishna Balasubramanian)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Freeze up on X
Date: 22 Jan 1993 09:32:38 -0500
Organization: Ohio State Computer Science
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In-reply-to: dennisf@miles.com's message of Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:15:02 GMT


This is unrelated to X-freez-ups on special vga hardware that 
some people have reported.

Linux should behave even when pushed too hard. You should not push 
the system too hard but when you do the resulting behaviour is
potentially useful for detecting bugs in the kernel.

I'm testing some code which swaps heavilly but have yet to see a 
total freeze-up (0.99.3). True one loses control of the mouse or the 
mouse moves uncontrollably. The way to deal with this is to be patient. 
You could use some key bindings in ~/.twmrc to allow you to walk the 
twm menu.

If you wait long enough the thrashing should cease as the swapping
reaches a steady state. If you get tired of the thrashing walk the
menu and kill an application or so. The menu will also likely not
display its current state ... so do things slowly.

Log the printk's especially the first one in a sequence. A printk can
cause a sleep so later errors in critical code may be a result of the 
first printk.

Hit the reset button if you know better than I do.

krishna
From: c60b-1fk@web-1b.berkeley.edu (Ahmon Dancy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: GROUP file access
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:45:44 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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Originator: c60b-1fk@web-1b.berkeley.edu


I have a file like this:

-rw-r--r--  owner:root	group:mud 	file

I tried this as a ordinary user with uid!=0 and gid=mud.  

rm file
override 0644 protection? y
> 

It deleted the file.  Should this happen?

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From: laakkone@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Laakkonen)
Subject: Re: How to unpack .tpz file in SLS packages?
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:07:51 GMT

In <1993Jan21.075613.32626@aixrs0.hrz.uni-essen.de> hank@informatik.uni-essen.de (Hendrik G. Seliger) writes:

>I think someone wanted to patch the tar to use gzip. Until then you can just
>use

>   cat foo.tpz |gunzip -c | tar xvf - 

or
gunzip -c < foo.tpz | tar xvf -
From: brian@telex.mn.org (Brian K. Teravskis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: ST-225 HD problems with Linux
Summary: read_intr errors on bootup with ST-225 HD
Keywords: read_intr write_intr bootup
Date: 20 Jan 93 22:28:44 GMT
Organization: Telex Communications, Inc.  Bloomington, MN


Hello fellow Linuxers:

I'm setting up a LINUX system here for a satellite
terminal at one of our remote plants. I was given
a certain dollar amount to upgrade an old XT to a
system that would run LINUX. Here is what I ended
up with:

		80386-40 AMD OPTI Chipset motherboard
		4M RAM SIMM Modules 60 ns
		EGA Graphics Card (From old XT)
		16 bit MFM/RLL 2FD/2HD Controller Card
		1.2M 5-1/4" Floppy
		360K 5-1/4" Floppy (From old XT)
		20Meg ST-225 RLL Hard Disk (From old XT)

I booted from A1 and A2 with no problems, ran fdisk,
mkfs, created swap space. I then installed the base
Linux systems from SLS 0.98pl5-49. I got a couple of
HD: write_intr errors during the installation so
I decided to try and install the SLS stuff manually
The write_intr errors still sporadically happened but
I managed to get all the stuff installed. I then proceeded
to create the boot disk, and ran bootdev to set it up.

When I boot from the disk the following happens:

[...]

hda :
 part 1 start 1 size 32775 end 32775
 part 2 start 32776 size 9044 end 41819
Partition table ok.
Linux version 0.99-47 (root@softland) 12/14/92 19:41:34
HD: read_intr: status = 0x5b
HD: read_intr: status = 0x80

locks up here...

I even tried turning off the turbo button, but still the same
story except I get a few more HD errors/resets.

Is the hard disk just to slow for the 386-40 or am I missing
something???

Any help is appreciated, and thanks in advance.

Brian
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tjrc1@cus.cam.ac.uk (T.J.R. Cutts)
Subject: Re: How to work X and S3 cards?
Keywords: S3 X How Help Setup
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:32:42 GMT

1)  Get XS3 server from ft.robots.ox.ac.uk in directory /pub/linux/S3
    Get version 0.2b for 911 cards, 0.3.1 for anything else.

2)  Get the example Xconfig file in the same directory.

3) Uncompress the XS3 server in /usr/X386/bin

4) Replace /usr/X386/lib/X11/Xconfig with the S3 version and adjust the mouse
   line for your mouse.

5) Edit the file /usr/X386/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc so that it runs the S3 server
   and not X or X386

6) Type startx and go for it!

NB:  You may find your card cannot cope with the 80Hz 1024x768 line in
Xconfig.  Mine does not, for example.  Comment it out and try the 65Hz line
instead, which works fine on my machine, with no discernible flicker.
From: edmonds@cs.ubc.ca (Brian Edmonds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Serial I/O in 99pl3-4
Date: 23 Jan 1993 12:19:48 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
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btenison@eng.auburn.edu (Bruce Tenison) wrote:
>Is anyone haveing trouble with the new serial driver (3.8) in 99pl3-4??
>Everything worked fine up to and including 99pl2, but now, everything
>seems to work EXCEPT the serial lines.  I have ttys0 set to my mouse
>and ttys1 to the modem.  Kermit responds that it gets an I/O error
>and the mouse test util that comes with the Xfree responds that it 
>cannot open the mouse.  BTW, I have a Packard Bell 386x with on-board
>serial ports (in case this helps).
Well, I'm not exactly having trouble, but the behaviour did change when 
I went from p0 to p3 (might have been p2 to p3 even, I'm fuzzy on that 
:).  The ports generally seem to work fine, except for one anomaly.  
When I hang up from our local annex, I used to get the NO CARRIER 
message from the modem when it disconnected.  Now, instead, I get no 
message, and if I type anything to the modem after the disconnet, I get 
an I/O error (unable to write or somesuch).  So far this hasn't been a 
problem, but it does seem to indicate a bug somewhere.  BTW, I'm not 
using the serial autoconfigure option. 

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From: rcopg@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Paul Gortmaker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Pt 1/2: linux 0.98 c++ st
Date: 24 Jan 93 11:01:52 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

Paul.Caffrey@f15.n229.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Caffrey) writes:

>Reply-To: pac30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Paul Caffrey)

>PID: Fred 1.9n6
>Hi,

>I can't get the c++ stream io implementation of the 0.98 linux SLS
>distribution
>working.

>The following program(cout.c):

>#include <iostream.h>
>main(){
>cout << "Hello World!\n";
>}

>fails to compile (g++ cout.c) with the following message:


>cout.o: Undefined symbol _cout referenced from text segment
>cout.o: Undefined symbol operator<<(ostream &, const char *) referenced
>from
>text segment

>Can anyone explain why this happens? All other c++ appear to be
>working.
>ps while I'm on is there a "dissambler" program for linux?
>Paul
>email pac30@amail.amdahl.com

>ps the following is the file iostream.h

[...245 lines of uselessness deleted]

	This is not really a question for the Linux newsgroup, but rather for 
the GCC newsgroup. Also it really *bugs* people when someone posts 500 tons
of useless stuff with their article. If you are not sure what is necessary to 
solve your problem, then briefly describe your problem, and if more info is
req'd, people will ask for it.

	As for your problem, it appears that the c++ library is not being 
linked in. When you build a simple C program with GCC, you usually type
something like "gcc program.c -lc -lm" which means to link in the libraries
"libc.a" (standard run time functions) and "libm.a" (math functions).

	In your case, you need to link in the c++ library, which I can't
recall the name of (I'm not on my Linux box now). It might be "libg++.a" or
"libc_p.a" (ie use -lg++ and/or -lc_p).

	I assume you are still using GCC v2.2.2d (type gcc -v) if you are 
running 0.98 (p6 ???). This is a note from H.J. with the release of the
new libraries (for 2.3.3) which may also be pertinent.

	"Iostream is in libc.a To use it, you have to use -nojump or
	-static in your LDFLAGS"

(Upshot of this is to use "-lc" --- other options only pertinent to 2.3.3, I
think !!!)



								Paul.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.mail.uucp
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: uucico won't dial
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 02:44:15 GMT

BUCHANAN TIMOTHY E (buchanan@rintintin.Colorado.EDU) wrote:

: In /usr/lib/uucp I have Devices set to /dev/ttyS3, and kermit works when
: set to /dev/ttyS3 or /dev/modem ln'd to that. I have an entry in Systems
: for csn, including a chat script, set to use ACU. So why won't uucico dial?

Try doing a "uucico -r1 -f -s..." then look into /usr/spool/uucp/.Admin/a*

: Could someone also comment on the proper format for /usr/lib/uucp/paths?
: I want all mail to be routed to csn via uucp transfer.

system<TAB>path

: Also, can I change hostname to something else in rc.local?

Yes.
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"It is your resistance to 'what is' that causes your suffering."   -- Buddha
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: marcf@nexus.yorku.ca (Marc G Fournier)
Subject: Re: SLS won't install a3 and up; still seeking help for this.
Organization: York University, CS Dept. Toronto
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:55:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.022536.2468@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> buchanan@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (BUCHANAN TIMOTHY E) writes:
>There's something wrong w/ the sysinstall script on a2 (ftp'd files on Jan
>19). It asks for disks a3, a4, and so on, but doesn't install anything, just
>rapidly asks for each successive disk. Each disk is DOS format, giving the
>magic mount failed msg, and each has the disk ID.
>
>Won't someone pls help?
>
	get the new a1/a2 disks...had the same problem, got them and the
problem was fixed :)

marc
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 15:51:28 EST
From: Matt Richmond <MSR113@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Relational Database for Linux?

Hi fellow Linuxers.  I'm going to be going on co-op this summer,
and was told one thing I should brush up on is SQL.  So, is there
any kind of database package which uses SQL for Linux?  for unix
in general?  I'm really not looking for anything super-fancy,
just a database that stores data and accepts SQL code to access
it.  And preferably not networked, since it would be only on
my machine.  Any ideas?  Thanks for any info..

--Matt Richmond
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From: root@hydra.basl.rwth-aachen.de
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Help needed: xvgr2.09
Date: 27 Jan 1993 16:43:08 GMT
Organization: Institute of Semiconductor Electronics - II, RWTH Aachen, Germany
Distribution: world
Reply-To: root@hydra.basl.rwth-aachen.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra.basl.rwth-aachen.de
Keywords: xvgr

Hi everybody,

I tried to compile the xvgr-2.09 package under Linux (0.99.4, gcc2.3.3, libs 4.2) for several days. Unfortunately all I got was: floating point error, core dumped.

So I tried to debug the program but the error occures at random positions.

My question is now, if someone out there has ported the package succesfully and if I could get the port.

Thanks in advance.

Tom.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ask1@cec2.wustl.edu (Andrew Scott Koransky)
Subject: Re: SLS: Additional problem & questions.
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:04:36 GMT

Peter "SLS" MacDonald writes:
>>Also, some remarks for Peter.  First of all, great work!  I can't imagine
>>the amount of time you spent getting all this together so nicely.  Second, a
>>suggestion:  Is it possible for someone or a group to test SLS releases so
>>that the bugs may be eliminated by the time the new release gets to the
>>public?  It may cause some delays, but I think it would be well worth the
>>wait.  Perhaps a "beta" SLS release?
>>Anyhow, keep up the good work!
>
>I do.  You are that group :-).  Seriously, when I announce an upgrade, I 
>expect people to respect it and wait a week unless you are intrepid
>(or just a good samaritan).

This is fine, but I believe this should be announced somewhere in the readme
maybe and when it is stable enough, modify the readme or something like
that...  just so we know.  The main problem here is simple communication.
Newbies to Linux SLS are downloading it unaware that a new "buggy" SLS has
been uploaded and suffer for it.
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From: wto@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (William T. O Connell)
Subject: Re: 2 Linux ques. (read faq:
Organization: PC peripheral operational services group
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:12:01 GMT

In article <728095509.AA36500@remote.halcyon.com> Randy.Edwards@f60.n128.z1.fidonet.org (Randy Edwards) writes:

 	< delete stuff >
>
>I might be doing wrong with the useradd command?  I'm about ready to 
>'rm' it and work up some scripts to do it all semi-manually... 

I have my own shell script - so I don't have a good answer here.

>   My second question is about file permissions and general file
>access.
>
>As root, I made a dummy file named 'test.fil' with an owner and group 
>of 'root' and permissions of -rw-r--r--.  Then, I logged in as a normal
>
>user and tried to rm the file.  I get a 'permission denied' response, 
>and the file remains intact.  Great.  Then, I immediately change 
>directories to /etc and do a 'rm passwd'.  To my surprise, I get a 
>response of 'rm: remove 'passwd', overriding mode 0600?'  So I type 'y'
>
>and the system deletes my password file.  The password file was also 
>owned by and in group 'root' and had permissions of -rw-------.  What 
>boggles me is why does the system allow me to delete one file, but not 
>the other?  (Remember, I did this logged in as a user, not as root.). 
>To me, since I don't know what's going on, this gives me shudders and 
>fears of system security.  Can someone clue me in on what's happening 
>here (and how I might prevent it)? 

It appears that /etc's permissions are set as writable for 'others',
change it to read only.

- Bill	O'Connell
From: ccasted@prism.gatech.EDU (Edward Deering Boykin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: dialing in to linux
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:29:49 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

How do I set up my linux box to answer my modem so I can call in from 
outside and work on my machine? If this is  a faq tell me where it is
I couldn't find it in the standar faq or the net faq? Thanks

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: philips@cae.wisc.edu (Philip William Stephenson)
Subject: Installing X from .tpz files (?)
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Distribution: comp.os.linux
Date: 23 Jan 93 12:16:43 CST
Keywords: gzip, tpz, x

Hi all-
I am new to Linux (~12 hrs now) and have managed to install the base system on 
my 386/387 system and would now like to take a crack at installing x windows.
I have the SLS disks x1-x6, on which the files are .tpz.  These are not
compatable with the install option on the Linux menu.  I have installed gzip, 
but am at a loss as to the exact procedure to use it to install from the floppy
drive (if it helps, its a 1.2Mb 5.25" drive).  I would appreciate as detailed 
instuctions as anyone feels compelled to send me.
Thanks in advance.
Phil.
Phil Stephenson (stephens@erciris122.me.wisc.edu)
From: kf8nh@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Safety Belt / SLS
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:13:37 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Brandon S. Allbery's Personal System

probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon) writes:
> You still obviously didn't get my point here. MAKE BACKUPS FIRST. Come on,
> so even if other mkfs's allow me 10 seconds that still isn't going to make
> any difference if I don't realize it. Whats next, mirroring of the old 
> partition first??

That is not what you said.  What you said was:

probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon) writes:
> You are getting into the real world with unix, so you have to live with some
> real world things like unix is semi-cryptic.

This and several other quotes I recall but didn't save basically say "don't
bother with any safety features, with Unix you're SUPPOSED to jump out of
the plane without a parachute".  Which is the "hackers-only" attitude that
is why (just as an example) all the Unix folks are running scared in the
face of Windows NT, which I guarantee you will not have this problem.

Moreover, quite frankly "Unix is semi-cryptic" is a flaw that should be
fixed, that (I do hope!) is BEING fixed in the commercial Unixes, and that
the Linux Doc Project is trying to fix for Linux.  It is not a law of nature,
and it *certainly* is not a Good Thing.

This is what I took exception to.  I do not argue the necessity of backups
(in fact, I spend all too much of my time on the job arguing that with
customers who think of it as a waste of time), and if you had stuck to that
instead of throwing in the "hackers only, nyaah nyaah" sentiment I wouldn't
have complained.

++Brandon

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ckurs-2@orville.uni-mainz.de (Teilnehmer am C-Kurs WS 1992_93)
Subject: Re: terminfo?
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:19:22 GMT

Don't ask, put it up! Lots of people would appreciate that!

Dominik
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From: loser@clueless.newbie.tyro.org ()
Subject: X leaves /dev/ttyp0 opened! ....Why???
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:27:56 GMT


I've noticed taht when I run X window (startx), a pseudo tty gets attached to
the running process (usually ttyp0).  The problem is that when I exit X, and
execute the w command, it reports that ttyp0 is still attached to the user!
Does anyone know why this is so?  Thanks,

Jaime
From: neal@ctd.comsat.com (Neal Becker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: X for ega? (again)
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:03:53 GMT
Organization: COMSAT Labs
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X-Md4-Signature: 7e59cbcdf4d5945991ade5efadfedcde

I'm confused.  Is Xega for ibm ega?  All the docs about Xega talk
about 640x480x16.  The old ibm EGA (like mine) have 640x350x16, not
640x480x16.  Am I totally missing something here?

p.s. I can't X386 to work with my ega (yet).
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: drew@romeo.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Two different harddisks?
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:51:41 GMT

In article <THIELOPH.93Jan25181331@crypt5.cs.uni-sb.de> thieloph@crypt5.cs.uni-sb.de (Christoph Thiel) writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>I am not sure, but I don`t think that my question is a FAQ. Excuse me if i 
>am wrong:
>
>I am a happy owner of a 386DX 25Mhz with 80MB MFM-Harddisk. Is there any
>possibility to install a second harddisk (IDE, SCSI with a second 
>controller?) and to use it with Linux. 

MFM : no problem.

SCSI : No problem if you use a supported SCSI board, which includes
the Adaptec 154x, Adaptec 174x Future Domain 16x0,  Seagate ST0x, 
Ultrastor 14F, and Western Digital 7000.  Some TMC950 based future domain
boards work with the Seagate driver, your mileage may vary.

IMHO : You really, really, really don't want one of the Seagates or 
	Future Domain TMC950 based boards.  

IDE : You'd need a controller that could run at a secondary
address, on a different interrupt (or at a different address with 
the different interrupt acomplished with a cut and jump).  You would
also have to do some kernel work to get the second controller supported 
(This has been done, I don't know who did it or where you can get 
the results from).
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jmk@kksys.com (Jim Kaufman)
Subject: KA9Q
Keywords: KA9Q Help SLS 0.98pl5
Organization: K and K Systems
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:29:12 GMT

I use the KA9Q package at work on a DOS machine and thought it worked so
well I wanted the same package for my Linux machine.

1) I downloaded the source files for KA9Q.7 from sunsite. Did I get the
   right file?

2) If so, I am confused by the README.WD file. It tells me to move weregs.h
   and we.c (possibly wrong names - I'm at work) to /kernel/chr_dev directory 
   and make some changes to main.c and the Makefile.
   However, there IS a version of we.c and weregs.h in
   /net/tcp. Does one supercede the other or what?

3) Do I need to rebuild the kernel or is tcp/ip support and/or WD8003
   support built in? (SLS 0.98, pl5).

JMK 


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