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From: Ann.Stalnaker@f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Stalnaker)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: POLL...
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:29:51 GMT
Reply-To: Ann.Stalnaker@f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/2120 - Fingers Talk, Irving TX
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 23899

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 LL> Does the ADA have any requirements for companies that
 LL> have toll free voice numbers, to also provide toll free
 LL> TDD/TT numbers?  Where can I get some information about
 LL> this?

No, because the ADA requires that Relay Services be provided.
There is no need for all companies to provide TT/TDD's except
for any of their HI employees.

However, many businesses have already purchased TT/TDD's and
set aside a dedicated phone line for them which really makes
it nice but they are not required to do so if there is a state-
wide Relay Service available.

I've been able to obtain quite a few 800 toll-free TT/TDD
numbers via the AT&T TT/TDD Operator (OSD or is it OSCD -
Jack would probably know more about this than I do even though
I do use the 1-800-855-1155 number frequently!)

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From: Keith.Bucher@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Keith Bucher)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Flipper may lead the way
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:12:40 GMT
Reply-To: Keith.Bucher@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23816

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 Quoting Patrick Gormley to Keith Bucher 04 Aug 92 15:30:00

 PG> Keith I've not seen the flipper demo but  my feeling is that my
 PG> screen reader has to perform double duty to be used at home, at work,
 PG> or on other computers that I may need to access.  Anything that
 PG> hinders this flexibility for me as far as I'm concerned  negates the
 PG> worth of the product in my eyes.

Hi Patrick, with that I cannot disagree.  But I have been told that
you won't have to unlock version 4 of Flipper in this way.  I
wouldn't attempt to try to tell you which reader to buy, i'm sure you
are very able to make this decision, but you might at least consider
downloading version 3 of Flipper and taking a look at it before that
final moment.  Like any program, it isn't perfect, but on
the other hand, it is certainly a nice one with many nice features.
Thanks for the message.  Keith

... Life is a school where you learn the lesson AFTER you take the test!

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From: Darrell.Shandrow@p0.f11.n2250.z1.fidonet.org (Darrell Shandrow)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: "Blind Loyalty"
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:00:50 GMT
Reply-To: Darrell.Shandrow@p0.f11.n2250.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2250/11.0 - Sullivan Radio Shac, Carlinville IL
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23717

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

jamal:

all democratic organizations   have the same problems concerning outside
activities.   what i mean is that mike is right in not going into detail
about the issues he disagrees with.   all organizations tend to look
down on members who openly share discenting viewpoints outside that
organization.   don't tell me that acb doesn't have this problem too as
i'm sure it could be found.

also, saw you at the vidpi meeting in phx.   i was there with lisa towne
from h.j.  73

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From: Kelly.Ford@f8.n121.z1.fidonet.org (Kelly Ford)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Jaws macros
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:11:13 GMT
Reply-To: Kelly.Ford@f8.n121.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:121/8 - JW-PC DataFlex.HST, Sun Prairie WI
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23786

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

One question about JAWS macros though.
When will H-J develop some kind of macro editor for JAWS.  I'm a fan of
JAWS but find it surprising that a program that relies so heavily on
macros really lacks provisions for handling them.

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From: Christopher.Hill@p233.f4115.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Christopher Hill)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Braille N Speak Compl
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:12:13 GMT
Reply-To: Christopher.Hill@p233.f4115.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/4115.233 - Southern Crossroads, Grapevine TX
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23814

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

In a msg on <Aug 03 21:56>, David Tanner of 1:129/168 writes:

 DT>         You know what, I think the big problem is that now that
 DT> Dean has added a few more frills to the Braille 'N Speak
 DT> everybody wants to compare it to a notebook computer.

Maybe the problem is that portables and notebooks have had a steep
drop in price.  I've got the old bns, and the main beef I have with
it is the editor.  You can have insert mode on and not be able to
move around your file, or you can type and have everything appear
at the end.  On the pc, I always work in insert mode, and that
allows me to go back and stick anything in at will.  The bns can't
do this, at least in my version.  It's okay for typing in notes,
but editing is a pain in the backside.

With the price-drop in notebooks, you can't help but compare the two.
Chris

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From: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Tanner)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Low cost ocr system
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:07:37 GMT
Reply-To: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/168 - Braille Bank BBS, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23762

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

The Scan Jet scanner is pretty easy to install.  You will need to
install a half-length interface card and put a line in your
config.sys file that loads the Scan Jet driver into memory.  The
Scan Jet sjdriver.sys file is on a disk of utilities that comes
with the interface card and you will need to copy it to a utilities
directory on your hard disk.

The Discover 386 software is available at most software stores or
they can order it in for you.  Since it is a Xerox product you can
also purchase it from any store that sells Xerox products, usually
at a higher price than from other software vendors.  I would be
surprised if Comp USA cannot get it for you.  They probably can get
it for you at about as cheap a price as anywhere you could find
it.

        D. T.

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From: Greg.Pike@f49.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Greg Pike)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Screen Reader
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:00:33 GMT
Reply-To: Greg.Pike@f49.n272.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:272/49 - Calliope's Den, Garrison NY
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23715

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

David,

I'll ask you a third time.  Please state the specific deficiencies
you think exist in IBM's Screen Reader.  What do other packages
provide that Screen Reader doesn't?  Like I said, you still have a
chance to play a role in the developement of Screen Reader for
OS/2, so let's hear it.  If all you're going to do is bad mouth
packages with sweeping generalizations, nothing will ever be
fixed.  Now's your chance to make life easier for every blind
person who has to use OS/2 in their work environment.  You
personally can help make access technology better.  All you have to
do is speak up.

Just that facts, mam.

/Greg

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From: Frank.Whitney@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Frank Whitney)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: kickin' the dragon
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:56:50 GMT
Reply-To: Frank.Whitney@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:261/1000 - Nerve Center, Pikesville MD

Index Number: 23688

AA>;-) How much is "pricey" in dollars and cents? If you have
AA>one,would you like a job? Otherwise I guess I will be doing
AA>some typing.;-) Unless I could find enough jobs like this
AA>one to make it worth while to buy one for myself.

$9,000 is that pricey enough.
Frank.
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From: Graham.Scahill@f225.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Graham Scahill)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: pay phone tts
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:36:57 GMT
Reply-To: Graham.Scahill@f225.n772.z3.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/225
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 23931

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

rKK> JO> I don't care much for the keyboards on the "pocket size" TT units

Hello Karen, I am tied up with people with vision and hearing
impairments, my wife is deaf-blind, my son has a severe hearing
loss and is blind, the three of us work for the New Zealand Vision
and Hearing Impaired Persons Society and are interested in
assistive technology.

If there is any literature avaiab;e amd upi cam get ot fpr me I
would be very grateful. Will post my address on here when I see if
you are able to assist.

Best of!

Graham.

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From: CSMIDHC%UCLAMVS.BITNET@VM1.NoDak.EDU (Danny Hilton-Chalfen)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Call for Papers: CSUN '93 Technology and Disability Conference
Date: 19 Aug 92 04:28:00 GMT
Reply-To: CSMIDHC%UCLAMVS.BITNET@VM1.NoDak.EDU (Danny Hilton-Chalfen)

Index Number: 23947

 This call for papers is from Harry Murphy of the
California State University, Northridge:

 ------------ Text of forwarded message ---------------

CSUN Announces Call for Papers
for Eighth Annual, International Conference,
"Technology and Persons with Disabilities"

A Call for Papers is available from CSUN for their Eighth Annual,
International Conference, "Technology and Persons with Disabilities,"
to be held at the LAX Marriott Hotel, March 17-21, 1993.  Papers
are due on or before October 15.  Decisions will be made in early
November. All presentations are one hour in duration.

CSUN's conference is a potpourri across all disabilities and all
applications.  Papers are especially solicited for two special
"mini-conferences" which were big hits in 1992: (1) Virtual Reality
and (2) Speech Recognition.

The 1992 conference drew 2,200 participants, 276 speakers and
102 exhibitors.

Please address on e mail to HMURPHY@VAX.CSUN.EDU or send to
Dr. Harry Murphy
CSUN
18111 Nordhoff Street - DVSS
Northridge, CA 91330
Phone:  818 885 2578
FAX:     818 885 4929
From: Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'keeffe)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: DIAL 711 for RELAY SERVICE
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:31:11 GMT
Reply-To: Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/26 - SoundingBoard, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 23905

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Are you tired of dialing or keying a long string of numbers
to reach a Relay Service?  Are you confused by different
Relay Service access numbers when you travel out of your
home state?  WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS?

Three digit access, called "N-1-1 codes", has been used for
other purposes including emergency 911 access.  However, a
few "N-1-1 codes" have not yet been allocated.  The Federal
Communications Commission (FCC) has under consideration a
proposal that could enable Relay access ANYWHERE IN THE USA
by simply dialing 711.

Several national organizations, including SHHH, have signed
on a proposal urging the FCC to reserve two unallocated
"N-1-1" numbers for nationwide access to Telecommunication
Relay Services.  The FCC will soon consider this proposal,
along with others that might allocate remaining "N-1-1"
numbers for other purposes.  In making its decision, the
FCC will consider any letters of support it receives.

If you are concerned about equal telecommunication access,
write the FCC and let them know.  Cite the difficulty and
delay of remembering and correctly dialing long numbers to
access the relay.  (Here in Pennsylvania it requires eleven
digits, ARGHHH!)  Tell them we need "N-1-1" access to the
relay services mandated by the ADA.

Since this is current business, your letters must reach
the FCC NOT LATER THAN AUGUST 14.  So do it now!  Write:

    Secretary Donna Searcy
    Federal Commiunications Commission
    1919 M Street NW
    Washington, DC  20554

Refer to "Docket 92-105, Use of N-1-1 Codes".  It is
important to have this "docket number" in the heading
of your letter.  Tell them that we _absolutely must_
have N-1-1 access to the Relay Service.

Karen, tell them the difficulty you experienced in Iowa.
Others can relate their first-hand experiences as well.

Here is your opportunity to do something constructive to
improve our Relay Services.  So do it now.  WRITE!

... Tempus fugit!
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From: dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: nerves and injury
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:09:05 GMT
Reply-To: dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23682

My mother is an R.N. and she told me that nerves
are like rubber bands.  Once broken often impossible to reconnect.
There is research that's ongoing with amino acids to try and
reconnect broken nerves.  In my opinion it will be many years before
anything is on the market from this research though
since human trials haven't even been proposed yet.
The F.D.A. is very slow to approve new research for human use
unless it's a life threatening situation now too.

jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>
From: John.Sanfilippo@p0.f102.n2603.z1.fidonet.org (John Sanfilippo)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: music help
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:09:47 GMT
Reply-To: John.Sanfilippo@p0.f102.n2603.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2603/102.0 - The Event Horizon, Bay Ridge NY
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23806

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Cindy, Texture is a sequencer. It can write midifiles, but it
does not itself score, nor does it present much of a graphic
score on screen. You can import the midifiles into your favorite
scoring program and work with it, but i have no experience with
this at all.

In fact, if you have experience with speech friendly scoring
programs (i think you mentioned "Score" in a previous message)
please do share that experience with me/us.

take care
John

... The cost of feathers has risen... Now even DOWN is up!

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From: Mary.Parker@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org (Mary Parker)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Jaws stuff
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:09:22 GMT
Reply-To: Mary.Parker@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3602/24 - ADAnet One (tm) Net, Pinson AL
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23775

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

BK>Hi Mary,
BK>I noticed that you are a Jaws user.  I was wondering if you might be
BK>able to give me a clue or 2 about seting the smart screen?  When I had
BK>an earlier version of the smart screen it seemed that the names to and
BK>from on my silver xpress used to be spoken, but now they aren't, and I
BK>believe I checked for any windows and I don't think there were any.
BK>Thanks for your help and if you are a new user here, welcome. Hi Bill,

When I first got my Jaws enhancement--not that long ago really--I
was having problems with my mail reader, OLX. Here is what I had to
do. When you to to your mail reader turn smart screens off by
pressing insert and s at the same time. Then it will work like it
did before Jaws 2.2. Let me know if this works for you because if
it does not I will try to download your mail reader and play with
it and the speech.

Mary

===
 * OLX 2.2 * Honesty is the best image.

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From: mgflax@phoenix.princeton.edu (Marshall Flax)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: On disability and sexual minorities
Keywords: Disability, sexual minority, gay, lesbian, bisexual
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:55:54 GMT
Reply-To: mgflax@phoenix.princeton.edu (Marshall Flax)
Organization: Princeton University

Index Number: 23685

In article <23571@handicap.news> phoenixl@netcom.com (Scott Luebking) wrote:
>
>I've been asked to write an article on people who are both disabled
>and in a sexual minority, e.g. bisexual, gay, lesbian.  I'm just
>beginning the research and the topics are pretty open.  Some
>possible topics include issues of being a double minority, meeting
>people, discrimination, surprising sources of support,
>relationships, identity conflicts, sub-cultures' reponses to ADA.
>I would appreciate hearing from anyone who would like to offer
>experiences or ideas.  My e-mail address is phoenixl@netcom.com and
>my number is 510-548-9215 .  (Desires for confidentiality will be
>very much respected.)

soc.motss and soc.bi are very good places to raise these questions as
well.  (If your site does not receive them, I will gladly repost your
request for you.)  I would also add to your list: people who practice
consentual sadomasochism and/or bondage (alt.sex.bondage), people who
lead nonmonagamous lives (alt.polyamory), cross-dressers (there's a
mailing list I'm told, but alt.sex.bondage people would know) and
probably many other sexual minorities as well.  (I don't think there's a
newsgroup yet for those who choose to be chaste.)

But it's interesting to notice exactly how silent our culture is about
GLB disabled people, with the possible exception of those who have
become disabled as a result of AIDS.  Currently, there's a drug
available which treats opportunistic infections of the eye for people
with impaired immune systems and prevents blindness, at a cost of ten
or twenty thousand dollars per year.

===========================================================================

And in article <23640@handicap.news> 34AEJ7D@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu (Bill Gorman)
wrote:

>I do not believe any of the so-called "sexual minorities" are included
>in the list of groups that fall under the umbrella of the ADA
>(Americans with Disabilities Act).

Bill, I believe you're guilty of misreading the original posting: the
request was for those who fall under the umbrella of the ADA and (Venn
diagram intersection!) consider themselves members of sexual
minorities.

marshall
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From: Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'keeffe)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Implants and Hearing Aids
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:35:18 GMT
Reply-To: Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/26 - SoundingBoard, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 23924

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

This echo has experienced discussions of the appropriateness
of Cochlear Implants for deaf children.  Some has been quite
emotional.  Some, especially following release of the NAD's
"White Paper" condemning implants for children, has bordered
on hysterical with talk of "ripping open children's heads".

So maybe you would like to know a few facts.  The following
is an excerpt from an article in "The Hearing Journal" by
Dr. James B. Snow, Jr., Director of The National Institute
on Deafness and other Communication Disorders (NIDCD).

  "NIDCD is currently supporting a longitudinal study of
  prelingually deaf children comparing the benefits of
  cochlear electrical stimulators, vibrotactile aids, and
  acoustic hearing aids in the development of spoken language.
  Preliminary results indicate that the cochlear implant
  provides an advantage in speech perception after 12 months
  of use.  Performance of implant subjects was significantly
  better than that of hearing aid or vibrotactile aid subjects
  at 12, 16, 24, and 28 months after implantation.  After
  three years of training, both the tactile aid patients and
  the cochlear implant patients showed significant improvement
  over hearing aid patients in expressive vocabulary and
  syntax development."

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From: Wayne.Briggs@p0.f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Wayne Briggs)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Good News
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:58:47 GMT
Reply-To: Wayne.Briggs@p0.f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/5109.0 - National Amputee Co, Dallas TX
X-Fidonet: Amputee Conference

Index Number: 23702

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

Dr. Marybeth Ezacki office called to say she is still working on getting
approval from Parkland Hospital in Dallas for me to have a shoulder
disarticulation as a teaching patient, seeing I don't have any
insurance.She has been treating me & has agreed to d the surgery without
charge; because of her compassion and my loss of health insurance, job,
etc.
I've got a security cable & hope to be able to take my Macintosh Classic
& modem with meto the hospital.

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