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From: u8706558@cs.uow.edu.au (Sean Volke)
Subject: Beyond The Blackstump
Summary: bril
Keywords: music music music
Organization: The Shell
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 05:47:41 GMT

Hi Peoples,

This is just a quick report on Blackstump, the Australian equivalent of
Cornerstone and Greenbelt. It finished a couple of hours ago and as uni
was nearby I thought I'd drop in and give it a rave.

	This stump was simply brilliant! A lot of great acts eg. 

		vs Spy vs Spy
		Mortification
		Tommy Emmanuel(Brilliant guitarist)
		Danger UXB (now called Quick and the Dead)
		Naked Flame
		The Toerags (who are splitting up in a couple of weeks)
		and many others...

	Tommy is probably one of the (if not THE) best guitarists in 
Australia and after this performance it was easy to see why.
	vs Spy vs Spy are a pop/rock band with a strong pub reputation
who became Christians a few years ago. It was good to see a band that
had made a name for itself in the secular scene get up and speak about
the Lord and give a great performance.
Danger UXB are a blues/rock band that have just had a name change and got
themselves a decent manager and look set to hit the bigtime. This is one
of the top Christian acts down here. Look out for them in a year or two.

There was a 24-hour radio station running on site which really added to the
atmosphere especially 1am-6am when a friend of mine had a program devoted
to alternative music and metal. The highlight was this morning when we had
a large crowd outside the studio doing a wide variety of stunts eg. chair
wrestling, mud thumb wrestling, stack milk crates till they fall on someone,
slam dance to "Baby Baby" by "Amy Grant" which included a singalong where
everybody adopted vengeance rising type vocals during the chorus. About
5.30am (half an hour before we were due to finish) the listeners decided
they didn't want us to stop, so they barricaded the studio so noone could
get in or out. By this time we were dying to goto bed so we tried to put 
them off by playing Whitecross ballads but it only excited them further so
we gave up and continued with the show occasionally broadcasting ransom 
demands for coffee, donuts, pepsi and lots of green cordial(should have been
red). When the guy turned up at 6am to do his show they grabbed him and tied
him to a chair (luckily he was a cool guy and took it in good spirit). All
up he was tied up for 2 hours until we got kicked off the air at 8am. And
yes we got all our demands including the green cordial (unfortunately it was
diluted).

I think that will do it for now, if I think of anything else to say I will
post it next week. Now I want to go home and sleep!!!!

A great long weekend.

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From: tothmd@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Michael David Toth)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Victoria Williams video available
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:45:37 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati


I just wanted to let it be known that there's a WONDERFUL 30-minute film
featuring Victoria Williams called "Victoria: Happy Come Home" that was
released in 1988.  I found a VHS copy at a used record store a few weeks
back.  It's basically a romp through the bayous with Victoria, her
guitar, her dog, and unusual friends, most of which seem to just like to
sit around the yard and play music (Peter Case & Steven Soles included).
I showed the tape to Andy Whitman when I was visiting a few weeks back,
and he may offer some second opinions, but I will add that, like her
music, the film really grows on you with multiple viewings.  But people
looking for trendy, fashionable glitz and coolness and used to
MTV/Entertainment Tonight definitions may be thrown by her individuality
and radical "down-homeness."  Defying a simple classification, that
individuality she exudes, while perhaps unsettling at first, is
wonderfully refreshing.

Here's the good news:

There's a phone number for the production company at the end.  I called,
and they still have several copies left that they bought from Victoria's
old label Rough Trade after they folded.  Send 'em a check and a copy is
yours!  (PLEASE NOTE:  they are giving ALL of the profits to Victoria
who is suffering from Multiple Sclerosis - more on that later)  They're
asking $25 plus UPS postage (I'd say $4 -- they mentioned whatever was
leftover they'd send to Victoria anyway) and I'd guess they only have
them in VHS NTSC format. 

Write them at:

Pennebaker Associates
262 W. 91
New York, NY  10024

Victoria's MS apparently goes in and out of remission/levels of
severity.  A few weeks ago there was a benefit concert in New York for
Victoria, where she DID perform.  The Pennebaker crew DID videotape the
concert, and they'd like to release a video of that as well.  However,
getting permissions from all the contributing performers is going to be
the tricky part.  When I asked who some of them were, he said he didn't
have the list with him, but Lou Reed and Michelle Shocked were examples.

If you send for a copy of the tape, be sure to mention that you'd like
for them to send you information about the Victoria benefit concert
video should it ever become available.

-Michael. 

"If yooooor looking for rayynbooows up in the clowwwds, 
	then never look to the grouououound!"
			-Victoria Williams from "Clothesline"
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: LSU/Breakfast w/ Amy
From: steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (jason "Think!" steiner)
Date: 27 Sep 92 21:43:18 EST

urmvance@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
> writes:
> > One more question - I have BWA's Everything... and just got Love 
> > Gift, but never got around to investing in Dad and haven't heard 
> > anything off of it yet either.  Is it worth buying, and how does 
> > it compare to the other two albums?
> 
> Well, now that you mention it, Dad is a FANTASTIC BW/A tape. Since 
> I have ne'er heard their prior tape I can't compare to it, but I do 
> know this: since you have product#love 3484 (love gift), you 
> already know two of the fine songs from Dad: One and Ad America. 

they have new versions of One and Ad America on love gift? Ad America
is one of my favorite rainy day songs... one thing for sure, you'll
never again be able to look at a Christian T-Shirt without gagging 
after you hear "Mermelstein and the Disappearing Sink".

and just to rub it in, i've got a copy of "Everything Was Beautiful and
Nothing Hurt" on CD and you can't have it! :^)

jason

How long's your hair? Cool boots you got
Where'd you get them shades? Your fringe looks hot
Your earrings shine like sparkle wine (like sparkle wine)

We're just dust dressed up to be blown away
We're just dust dressed up to be blown away...

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From: dcovell@intelhf.hf.intel.com (David Covell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Michael W on Regis and Kathy Lee
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:51:52 GMT
Organization: Development Tools Operation, Intel Corp., Hillsboro  OR

ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman) writes:

>and it's surely not a sin to be beautiful.  But I *do* have a problem
>with the way Christian labels pander to the world by emphasizing
>image.  And I *do* see a change in the way Christian labels operate
>today verses how they operated, say, fifteen years ago.  

What's even worse is that this preoccupation with image has propagated down
to the musician level, perhaps due to the perception that the "right" image
is essential to getting signed by a label. 
As a guitarist, I'm continually frustrated by ads in the local papers or on
music store bulletin boards where a band is looking for a guitarist; they
usually list the qualifications they want, and I can parse through the list
answering "yes" to each one until I reach "must have long hair" or some such
image-dictated requirement that simultaneously eliminates me and makes me
aware of how much of the world's attitude toward music/musicians has penetrated
CCM circles. How very sad!
I've asked several of these groups about their reasoning about this and the
answer is usually something like "we need the right image so we can minister
to people who don't normally listen to christian music". Hmmmm.....
Granted, I'd look pretty silly in a Stryper-type band since I'm nearly 40
with short hair, bald spots, glasses, typical computer-nerd look, but then I
wouldn't want to play in that sort of band anyway. It does bother me that
my appearance has prevented me from being in some sort of christian "classic
rock" group, though. Looks like I'm "doomed" to remain a studio session
player.  ;^)
Guess I probably wouldn't qualify for the worship team at Crystal Cathedral
either. I can live with that....  ;^)   ;^)
From: tim@kudzu.viewlogic.com (Tim Foster)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Legality of copying individual songs
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:50:52 GMT
Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
Originator: tim@kudzu


Howdy all.  I'm looking for some advice on this situation...

I am responsible for maintaining the music library in my church.
There is no budget for purchasing new tapes, so the relatively few
that we have were all donated.  The people in our church have little
knowledge of CCM, because there is no radio station around from which
to hear any music of this type.  Therefore, they have no way of finding
out which music/artists they might like.

I would like to be able to provide a way for them to hear different
artists/styles without having to purchase new tapes.  Since I don't
believe in copying full albums, that is not an option for me.  However,
I've been wondering if it was "o.k." to create a sampler tape containing
one or two songs from various artists.  This would allow people to get
an idea what each artist sounds like, without giving them access to the
full album.  I believe this would not take away from album sales for
these artists, but rather help them out by exposing them to more 
potential buyers.  However, I'm just not sure if this is moral/legal or 
not.  

What do you say?


-- 

Tim Foster 
E-mail: tfoster@viewlogic.com 
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: lmc@cs.cornell.edu (Linda Marie Competillo)
Subject: Re: New Amy album?
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:49:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.162602.9262@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> hill@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Hill) writes:
>This morning the dj announced (twice, before and after the song) "a brand
>new song" by Amy Grant.  It was called "On and On".  I've never heard it
>before.  It sounded like her older (c. 1985) stuff, not like "Heart in
>Motion" at all.  But it's not from any album she's done since "Straight
>Ahead", and doesn't sound like albums earlier than that one.  But I
>haven't heard here (or did I just space it?) of a new AG album.  Ennybody
>know about this?
>
>			--Michael
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Michael Hill   <><  Isaiah 9:6 | "Go, go into the world and tell all of
>hill@spot.Colorado.EDU         |  creation He lives, lives in the hearts of men
>                               |  He said go, go into the world and tell all of
>University of Colorado@Boulder |  creation He lives, lives in the hearts of men
>$ mv net.flames /dev/null      |  He's the Messiah"  --Bloodgood, "The Messiah"
>-------------------------My boss is a Jewish carpenter!------------------------
>Did you ever notice that everybody in favor of abortion has already been born?!



It's definitely on one of her very first albums when she was probably 16 or
so. I have it at home, but I can't remember the name of it. If no one else 
has it, I'll check tonight and post it tomorrow. 

  LINDA
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From: ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink)
Subject: Re: Christian ftp sites?
Organization: Turkey Hall
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:12:27 GMT

>yes...
>on Wuarchive in /doc/bible, there is online bible 5.0 (i hope it's still there)
>it eats about 20 Megs though, but memory requirements are minimum. I have a list
>with a christian gif sight somewhere around here...I cant seem to find it. Hope
>this helps

While this Online Bible 5.0 is probably a better program, I wrote my own
that only takes up 1.6 megs.  It's available in the uploads directory of
ftp.msel.unh.edu.  Grab the "bible.zoo" file and the "bible2.1.c" file.

What is required:  Zoo version 2.1 or later.  The "Less" pager.  Note:  the
pager can be changed by specifying an option on the command line, so perhaps
this is not a problem.
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***                ***
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From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Is a certain type of music bad?
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:21:15 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Oct1.204738.6290@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jpersons@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John C Persons) writes:

Re:  loud concerts and frazzled eardrums

>A little cotton might help.  Really.

I've been known to use wadded up kleenex balls.  Not pretty but effective.



-- 
Lauren Crawford  //  crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: Phil.Powell@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Phil Powell)
Subject: Re: Moshing
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:56:16 GMT

In article <BvBJoy.8M9@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cwe34361@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (cE!) writes:
>Someone presented this viewpoint to me, factual or otherwise:
>
>> Ka-mosh (spelling uncertain) was an ancient pagan god whose worship
>> consisted of priests running around in a circle mutilating themselves.
>> Moshing, specifically, running around in a circle slam-dancing at
>> concerts, was first popularized in the present day by the metal band
>> Slayer.  The name Ka-mosh translates to "slayer."  So essentially
>> moshing, whether it's intended to or not, is glorifying this demon.

When I was a pagan I studied pagan religions and I know a whole lotta
"gods", that's a new one.. that sounds not only made up but stupid!



>
>I realize that this will get a lot of you riled up.  Well, after you've had
>a chance to calm down, think about whether you have evidence to prove or 
>disprove this statement, and then email or post a response.  Just curious
>to see what the level-headed think.
>
>
>christian E!
>light industrial nail fodder
>christian-e@uiuc.edu

Level-headed enough for you? :-) What do you MEAN by hardcore industrial? :-)

Phil

PS: Congrats on Blonde Vinyl!


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From: jpersons@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John C Persons)
Subject: Re: Is a certain type of music bad?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:47:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.202038.2515@cs.rose-hulman.edu> anderson@cs.rose-hulman.edu. (Claude W. Anderson) writes:
>
>This is a real problem.  I really want to take my children to concerts.  But  
>it seems that at almost every concert, the volme is so loud that it hurts  
>their ears (mine too, but I am more sensitive about theirs).  
>
A little cotton might help.  Really.

John
From: steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (jason "Think!" steiner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Legality of copying individual songs
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:04:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: uoft02.1992Sep29.150412.10234

tim@kudzu.viewlogic.com (Tim Foster) writes:
> 
> Howdy all.  I'm looking for some advice on this situation...
> 
> I am responsible for maintaining the music library in my church.
> There is no budget for purchasing new tapes, so the relatively few
> that we have were all donated.  The people in our church have little
> knowledge of CCM, because there is no radio station around from 
> which to hear any music of this type.  Therefore, they have no way 
> of finding out which music/artists they might like.
> 
> I would like to be able to provide a way for them to hear different
> artists/styles without having to purchase new tapes.  Since I don't
> believe in copying full albums, that is not an option for me.  
> However, I've been wondering if it was "o.k." to create a sampler 
> tape containing one or two songs from various artists.  This would 
> allow people to get an idea what each artist sounds like, without 
> giving them access to the full album.  I believe this would not 
> take away from album sales for these artists, but rather help them 
> out by exposing them to more  potential buyers.  However, I'm just 
> not sure if this is moral/legal or  not.  
> 
> What do you say?

probably not legal. there is a clause that says you may perform if the
sole purpose is to promote sales of a work. however, copying the
music in the first place is a no-no.

the best solution would probably be to buy 3 or 4 sampler tapes. that
would cut down on costs, get you what you want & still give the artists
some money. most publishers put out sampler tapes/CDs of their bands,
so check around your local bookstore.

jason

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From: bulloj@aix.rpi.edu ( )
Subject: MWS on Amercian Country Awards
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Distribution: net
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 20:18:51 GMT

To all you MWS fans out there... 

I happenedto catch a glimpse of an Amercian Country Awards broadcast 
earlier in the week, and they had a song with a bunch of 
country musicians in it, I think the singer's name was Steve
Wariner, and also there was a guy named Mark O'Connor on violin.
But what was interesting was that Michael W. Smith was playing piano.
He did a really good job, too... He even sung a verse of the song...

Basically it was a straightforward rock/country tune called something like
'Baby Gave me the Blues' about meeting a girl at a bar and getting 
denied... your basic country song, I guess... I was a little surprised
as MWS never struck me as the "country music" type, although, I guess
he is from nashville... Did anybody else see this? What'd you think?

Peace,
John Bullough
bulloj@rpi.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White)
Subject: Re: Metallica
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:33:37 GMT

In article <16877AB5A.AVERNON1@ua1vm.ua.edu> AVERNON1@ua1vm.ua.edu (Andrew Vernon) writes:
> 
>Of course, after all is said and done, regardless of any agreement/dispute
>about Metallica's politics and/or morals, They're still just an excessive
>burst of noise. I thought this was about music...

Favorite Hetfield quote: "For this album I had to learn how to sing; I 
                          couldn't just scream in key."


Topher
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From: caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White)
Subject: Re: is a certain type of music bad?
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:31:18 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.124038.10329@uoft02.utoledo.edu> jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) writes:
>jason "next they'll be saying there's no such thing as free will" steiner

Free will is largely overrated.

Topher
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From: cwf50862@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles W. Fay IV)
Subject: Re: review: Adam again DAS (alt)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 03:21:10 GMT
Keywords: alternative

Oops sorry Guy/gals and other mutoids
I didn't mean to not include Greg Lawless, the guy is awesome!!!!
his guitar work is just another reason to buy Dig (or homeboys or if
you are really lucky "in a new world of time" and "ten songs by adam again"

chip
From: trw@spl1.spl.loral.com (Tim R Witort)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Santana...Christian????
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:36:43 GMT
Organization: Loral Software Productivity Laboratory

For what it's worth, a good friend of mine who lives in 
Los Gatos, CA (Carlos Santana's home town) also told me that he
was a Christian. This was according to a mutual friend of
theirs and Carlos'. Strictly heresay, but it does
support other evidence presented here.

-- Tim
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Geoff Moore in concert
From: bproden@ualr.edu
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:14:37 GMT
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock

I saw Geoff Moore and the Distance last night in Hot Springs.  Opening act was
Audio Adrenaline (I would personally rather have heard Two Hearts, who are on
this tour but didn't do this concert).

Geoff was great, as was his band.  The drum solo intro to "Why Should the Devil
Have All the Good Music?" was awesome, with MIDI triggers in the drums playing
samples of Geoff shouting the title.  Altar call was phenomenal, done with
"Come to Me" from the new album.  If you get a chance, catch the "Friend Like
U" tour.

Brian Roden
Leisure Arts, Inc.
Little Rock, AR
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White)
Subject: Re: Could someone explain (another Amy song)
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:54:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.232825.19188@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jlaplant@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John R Laplante) writes:
>On the topic of Amy songs -- 
>could someone explain "I will remember you." (heart in motion).
>is this about an old friend? a boyfriend/lover?
>Sometimes when I hear this song I think of someone who is married and
>who is thinking of an old flame. Perhaps I'm crazy on this, so I wonder.

The video gives a really good insight into the fact that the "old flame" was
killed as a very young man. 

Topher
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