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From: schultz@halley.est.3m.com (John C. Schultz)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: hypertext under frame?  Users?
Date: 29 Aug 92 17:46:09 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: 3M Company, 3M Center, Minnesota, USA

Someone at work recently pointed out that Frame 3.0 supports hypertext
links.  Since then I have read the (very) brief manual and was looking
for any user comments people can provide.

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   How to include the taste of Glendronach in a multi-media system?
From: lois@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Lois Gerber)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:47:00 GMT
Subject: Re: Rotate Objects != 90 degrees?
Organization: HP Fort Collins, Co.
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame

There is a keyboard option which is documented in Using Framemaker, page
7-38 for rotating objects an arbitrary number of degrees.  Notice
that this option is restricted to only certain kinds of objects.

Lois Gerber
Hewlett-Packard
Fort Collins, CO
From: smr@hitkw14.pki-nbg.philips.de (S.Riehm)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Changing printers - for all documents - the answer - thanks
Date: 2 Sep 92 08:29:51 GMT

Thank you to all the people who replied... it appears that the best
ways to tackle this problem is:
	a> create the X resource "Maker.printerName: <favourite printer>"
	b> modify the FMlpr lpr script to make use of the $PRINTER
	    environment variable ( or what ever the environment variable
	    is for your site )
	c> I was told by one person that the sun version of FrameMaker
	    has a file called "printer" in the .fminit2.0 directory..
	    which contains a line something like <printer lp1 >
	    ( He said the space on the end was important ). I don't
	    have a sun so I can't confirm this, but I can confirm that
	    it doesn't work on HP's

by default, the PRINTER environment variable is ignored by frame maker.

thank you to all those who replied.

catchya

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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: kremer@cs.utwente.nl (Harro Kremer)
Subject: Re: Changing printers - for all documents
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 11:26:32 GMT

In article <smr.715249557@hitkw14>, smr@hitkw14.pki-nbg.philips.de (S.Riehm)
writes:
|> We have recently installed some new printers in our department, and I
|> now don't have to run up and down two flights of stairs to collect my
|> printouts, however, the default printer is always the name of the old
|> printer, not the name of the new one.
|> 
|> We have set the PRINTER and LPDEST environment variables, but
|> framemaker seems to ignore them, is there a simple way to make
|> framemaker realise that you don't want to use the old printer, but
|> instead the new one that is only a few feet away from your desk would
|> be a lot more convenient.
|> 

You can add the following resource to your .Xdefaults file
	Maker.printerName:                      <your printer>
	
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: brighid@bass.lkw.com (Brighid)
Subject: Re: .Xdefaults & SCO ODT
Organization: Lakewood Corporation
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:26:09 GMT


Denis, 

Sorry to reply over the newsgroup but reply doesn't work too well
these days. 

The problem is not that the paragraph window is in an inconvenient
position or size, that I could deal with as you suggest. No, the
problem is that it plain old doesn't show up.  Nope, nothing, nada.

Even when I use the same form.x and form.y values as the character
format window. (In my .Xdefaults file) The character format window
does show up....

Brighid

brighid@lkw.com
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: tbunce@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tim Bunce)
Subject: Re: fmbatch Open mif = Internal error 171794
Reply-To: tbunce@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 15:24:40 +0000


> From: tbunce@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tim Bunce)
> 
> Hi,
> I'm having a problem opening a mif file using fmbatch.
> The file opens fine using maker. (International version of both used.)
> 
> Using the files from the SampleBook directory I've copied them elsewhere,
> and saved them as mif files. I'm trying to use an fmbatch script to
> convert them back to .book and .doc files (as a trial for a project).
[...]
> The book file and the two generated files are opened and converted fine
> but trying to open either Intro.mif or Conclusion.mif (both around 300k)
> causes Internal error 171794 and a large core file.
> 

An update... after much hacking I've pinned part of the problem to a
reference of the 'Table Continuation' variable. In my chopped down test
.mif file removing the use of this variable fixed the problem. In the two
big files the symptoms have changed from Internal error 171794 to a lock up.
:-(

How do I mail bug reports to frame?
Is there a published bug list?

Tim Bunce
tbunce@cix.compulink.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: harding@sun444.nas.nasa.gov (Steve Harding)
Subject: Re: HELP- large doc won't open on Mac FM
Organization: NASA/Ames Research Center
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 14:23:22 GMT

In article <181u4gINN5a2@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> tripstr@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Todd Courtois) writes:
>
>john@publications.ccc.monash.edu.au (John Wilkins) writes:
>
>>It's a 3.2Mb file I couldn't split. I need to be able to open it
>>urgently, if only to save it as a MIF and edit that. The error is
>>1110:1116, the details are: Mac IIci with 20Mb RAM, FM 3.1i allocated
>>14,000k, system 7 with tuneup 1.1.1. Any ideas?

]...[

>	Also, if your document contains a bunch of imported graphics
>	(that may be one reason why it's so large), try importing
>	them *by reference* instead of directly.  That will save an
>	enormous amount of memory.  You can also turn graphics display
>	off under "View" to speed up text editing.

Whether or not your graphics are imported by reference, if one of them is
corrupted, your document will not open.  This happened to me.  If this is
the case, I hope you DID import by reference, cuz the only workaround I
found is to recapture the offending graphic.

steve
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: wilcox@carina.unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox)
Subject: Graphics question
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 04:00:31 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

I have a book I'm working on with several imported graphics files (all
are currently imported by reference). This is using FM 3.0 for the Mac.

I am using PICT files (scanned line drawings), and TIFF files (both
scanned in greyscale and captured video, using a RasterOps 364 card
saving the files as TIFF).

The pages with PICTs cause no problems. Those with TIFFs print, but
take an incredibly long time (>45 min per page). FM only takes about
30-45 sec to send the job to PrintMonitor (sometimes I used
SuperLaserSpool), but then the printer (IINT) cranks away.

If I import these same TIFF files into PageMaker, they don't take
nearly as long to print on the same setup.

Is this just something I'll have to live with about FM, or is there
something I can do (FM setting, massaging my TIFF files, etc.)?

[Nope -- I won't go back to PageMaker.]

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: Mike Dustan <Mike_Dustan@sfu.ca>
Subject: Re: changing an imported graphic
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6C7E75B1A012B30@opifex.ucs.sfu.ca>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 31 Aug 92 23:12:27 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:12:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.185317.21258@dg-rtp.dg.com> Alan Franks,
franks@berlin.rtp.dg.com writes:
>What I'm trying to do is change an imported graphic from "imported by
reference"
>to "copied into document."  I've done quite a bit of twiddling with the
>graphic (an XWD file) and don't want to redo the import.  Is there a way
to
>do this quickly and painlessly?

Well, you're stuck with doing the import at least once, since you have to
get the actual code for the graphic into he document. All you have now is
a pointer to the XWD file. Anyway, simply select the existing graphic,
select Properties from the Graphics menu and jot down everything you see
(including resolution etc.). Then select the graphic and import over top
of it, changing to "Copy into document". If this clobbers the Properties,
go back to Properties and reset them as required.

Disclaimer: Hey, it worked for me!

Mike Dustan, Computing Services, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC
Canada
From: mickey@magickingdom.Eng.Sun.COM (Michael Bierman, FrameMaker Guru)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: RE: Frame2Interleaf converter
Date: 4 Sep 1992 18:40:05 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mickey@magickingdom.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: magickingdom

	Frame Technology Corp. now has a FrameMaker to Interleaf filter.
	I haven't used it extensively, but it seems pretty good.
	Frame is running an ad in SunWorld, "The Ultimate Interleaf
	"upgrade". The deal is you get the Interleaf filter (a $995	
	value) for free with the purchase of a Unix (Sun?) purchase.

Michael Bierman,              (michael.bierman@Eng.Sun.Com)
Project Lead, Tools Support Services
Sun Microsystems, Inc.
From: konstan@cs.berkeley.edu (Joe Konstan)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Putting line-break in autonumber format
Date: 29 Aug 1992 23:52:51 GMT
Organization: Picasso Research Group, UCB Computer Science Division
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: elmer-fudd.cs.berkeley.edu

I remember this being discussed months ago, but it isn't in the FAQ:

	How can you put a line-break in an autonumber format?

	I want my chaper-header to look like:

			 Chapter 1
		     The Chapter Title

	but using H:Chapter <n+>\r ignores the "\r" completely.

Thanks.

Joe Konstan
From: lilly@nhmfl.fsu.edu (Leonhard Lilly)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: frame Xresources
Date: 31 Aug 92 05:03:44 GMT
	<1992Aug20.114306.16053@uk03.bull.co.uk>
Organization: Department of Physics, Florida State University, Tallahassee
	32306, USA

In article <1992Aug20.114306.16053@uk03.bull.co.uk> ewoods@hemel.bull.co.uk (Eoin Woods) writes:
>todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams) writes:
>
>>I see some mention in the FAQ of 'Maker*background: white', etc.,
>>and I see a little here and there about various other resources,
>>but IS THERE ONE ALL-INCLUSIVE LIST of the Xresources supported
>>by framemaker?  Any difference in the X and OL versions?
>The offical list is in an Appendix in the Frame Reference Manual (App
>D I think).
>
>There could obviously be other undocumented ones hanging around.
>

Hi, I'm working on a network of Sparcstations with FrameMaker 3.1.

Is anybody out there who knows about all the xresources in the approx.
128 files in  the directory frame/.fminit2.0.ps/english/xresources
(and similar files/directories for other languages)?

They are (to my knowledge) undocumented in the standard documentation. 

Can they be modified/used to customize your framemaker? If so, I guess
you could do almost anything with them...

If changes are possible, where do I put the changes? Putting them in
.Xdefaults doesn't seem to help, if I remember correctly.

Any help would be appreciated.

>Eoin.
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: grivas@inf.ethz.ch (Georgios Grivas)
Subject: mif or rtf -> latex, rtf -> mif
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:14:09 GMT


I'm looking for the following filters:

- mif2latex or rtf2latex. Someone wrote a couple of days ago there is a 
  possibility mif -> troff -> latex. Where can I find these filters? 

- rtf2mif 

Any pointers are greatly appreciate.

George

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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame,bnr.text.frame
From: mario@wdc.sps.mot.com (Mario Nigrovic)
Subject: Re: One text source for many docs
Organization: Motorola Western MCU Design Center, Chandler Arizona
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:42:46 GMT

[Bill needs to update 15 pages with some differences all at the
same time.]

Bill -
   Why not enter the subject & description on the master page?
You'll have to make sure the paragraph boxes aren't part of any
flows, but otherwise, it should work well.
   Oh, yeah - if you leave the files as part of a book, remember
to us the "file/formats" to update all the files.  Seems easier to
me to just put all the pages into one document.

							Mario

Mario Nigrovic <mario@wdc.sps.mot.com>		voice: (602) 821-4264
Motorola Western MCU Design Center		fax:   (602) 821-4058
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: harding@sun444.nas.nasa.gov (Steve Harding)
Subject: Re: Frame on Windows
Keywords: Saving Files
Organization: NASA/Ames Research Center
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 21:15:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.180504.8362@mks.com> fred@mks.com (Fred Kratky) writes:
>I have recently started using Frame on Windows.  With each save it
>appears that Frame is creating a new file by adding % to the beginning
>of the file. eg: if I save "file" 4 times there are four files, the last
>one having the name %%%file.

This doesn't sound right.  After 8 saves you will have lost any file
identity.

]...[

steve
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: brighid@bass.lkw.com (Brighid)
Subject: Re: .Xdefaults & SCO ODT
Organization: Lakewood Corporation
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:18:02 GMT


Well, I've fixed the first problem - the paragraph catalog window not
showing up, at all. Turns out I needed to edit the .Xdefaults-hostname
file, not the .Xdefaults file. This file also changed the appearances
of the document window when I specified the Maker.dpi resource.

Yeah on two accounts.

Now, can anyone tell me why the document window is the correct size 
(smaller) but items like the paragraph format window etc are still
too big? (close to 8 inches wide on the screen!)

thanks!

Brighid

brighid@lkw.com
From: ange@aspect.UUCP (Ange Hampton)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: How do I change the page size of a document?
Keywords: page size
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:10:56 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Aspect Telecommunications, San Jose, Ca

I want to change the page size of a document that has some graphics
on the footers. I tried Use Formats to copy the format of the origanal
document to a new doc set up with the correct page size, but the 
graphical footers get cut off...

Is there an easy way to do this?

Thanks,

ange

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: John Wilkins <john@publications.ccc.monash.edu.au>
Subject: HELP- large doc won't open on Mac FM
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6CA462312012434@manager.ccc.monash.edu.au>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 2 Sep 92 18:21:23 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Melbourne Australia
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:20:52 GMT

It's a 3.2Mb file I couldn't split. I need to be able to open it
urgently, if only to save it as a MIF and edit that. The error is
1110:1116, the details are: Mac IIci with 20Mb RAM, FM 3.1i allocated
14,000k, system 7 with tuneup 1.1.1. Any ideas?

John Wilkins
Manager, Publishing & Advertising
Monash University, Melbourne Australia
Internet: john@publications.ccc.monash.edu.au
Tel: (+613) 573 2099

"Nature is profligate in variety but niggardly in innovation"
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From: B.Kumar@cs.ucl.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: troff + ms + NH - Book style section numbering
Date: 3 Sep 92 10:38:44 GMT


One of my friend writing his project report is curious to know 
whether it is possible to do book style nembering of section headers 
in psroff + ms. This requires appending the chapter number to basic 
NH headers. I could not think of any way of achieving this as this 
question never confronted me in the past.

For example section headings should be:

chap1	  chap2

1.1  	  2.1
1.1.1     2.1.1
1.2       2.1.2
1.2.1     2.2
1.2.2     2.1.1
1.2.2.1   2.1.1.2
1.2.2.2   2.3
1.3  

I would appreciate if you have any macro designed to help in doing 
above or any other trick to achieve the same effect.

FAQ also does not say whether this is possible or not.

Regards,

B. kumar

(ps: would appreciate email as it would reach me faster than bulletin
board posting.)

email: bkumar@cs.ucl.ac.uk
From: 71162.3470@CompuServe.COM ("Peter P. Donohue")
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: need spanish characters in ventura and spanish dictionary in WP5
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:01:01 GMT


   Does anyone know of a way to access spanish characters in Ventura
Publisher (I am using the DOS version 3.0, final output goes to an
Epson LQ or an HP Laserjet III)?  I can access all of the vowels that
have accents through the two alternate character sets, but I can't seem
to find an upside-down question mark or upside down explanation point. 
Unfortunately, I do not have access to a postscript printer - if I did,
I would just rotate the character.  Can this be done with either of the
printers that I am using? 
   I am also looking for a Spanish spell checker for Word Perfect 5.1. 
I usually write the documents in Word Perfect and import them into
Ventura.  The spell checker that comes with Word Perfect flags just
about every word, saying that it is misspelled.
   Thanks for any help.  

						Pete

 PS - please respond by email.  I do not have Usenet read access.
From: enag@ifi.uio.no (Erik Naggum)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: Re: man page standards
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:47:50 GMT
Organization: Department of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway

Nils-Peter Nelson <npn@alice.att.com> writes:
|
|   When Unix System Labs dropped troff, etc as a standard
|   part of System V, the vendors all went in different
|   directions. USL now sells troff separately as part of
|   Documenter's Workbench, and the latest releases (3.2 and
|   3.3) contain a "merged man" macro that includes definitions
|   used by BSD, Sun, Research and System V. There is no longer
|   a single standard.

The Committee for Common Man is working on this.  Contact Lar Kaufman
<lark@world.std.com>.  One of the goals of CFCM is to produce an SGML
document type definition for manual pages that will enable bidirectional
conversion between troff and the SGML document type.

Best regards,
</Erik>
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From: jaap@alice.att.com (jaap)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: Re: man page standards
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:00:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.23570
Reply-To: jaap@alice.UUCP ()
Organization: AT&T, Bell Labs

In article <23320D@erik.naggum.no> enag@ifi.uio.no (Erik Naggum) writes:
 > jaap <jaap@alice.att.com> writes:
 > |
 > |   [ Deleted ]
 > 
 > Sigh.  OSF is committed to use the work of the Davenport Group, and the
 > Davenport Group uses the CFCM work.  You can get more information about
 > the Davenport Group from Dale Dougherty <dale@ora.com>.  The Davenport
 > Group working documents can be FTP'ed from ftp.ora.com in the directory
 > /pub/davenport and subdirectories.  The material is also mirrored at
 > ftp.ifi.uio.no in /pub/SGML/DAVENPORT.
 > 

So what?  Half of the world is committing itself to Davenport.  It
doesn't prevent doing other things as well, at least, it apparently
didn't stop OSF to specify the reference Semantic Markup Language
(RSML) for technical documentation according to the report released in
June 1992.

	jaap
Newsgroups: comp.text
From: ron@mlfarm.com (Ronald Florence)
Subject: Re: Printing envelopes
Organization: Maple Lawn Farm, Stonington, CT
	<1992Aug27.033700.17607@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:24:43 GMT

Michael Rosen writes:

   Under the "Macros" keyboard, ^E will prompt you to place the cursor at
   the beginning of the address and will print the envelope.  

You can do the same thing in troff.  Putting the cursor before the
address and piping the following text to the script below will print
an envelope.  In vi, try `<esc>:,+7 w !envelope'.  In emacs, set point
and mark around the address and do `<esc>| envelope'.

In the envelope script below, the escape sequence is commands for the
HP Laserjet.  Our lpr switches the printer from Postscript to native
HP mode if the first line is missing the %!; the escape sequence tells
the printer to get the envelope from a different feed and to print in
landscape mode at an appropriate point on the envelope.  It would be
nice to do this in Postscript, but our Postscript cartridge doesn't
seem to know about feeding from an alternate tray or other niceties.

For different printers or different troff macros sets (we use mm),
modify accordingly.

   #!/bin/sh
   # envelope - prints address on envelope

   ( /usr/5bin/echo "\033&l3H\033&l1o14E\033&a55L\c";
   awk '
     $1 ~ /^.DE/ || $1 ~ /^.fi/ { exit }
     $1 !~ /^.DS/ || $1 !~ /^.nf/ { address[i++] = $0 }
   END {
     for (j = 1; j < i; j++)
       printf "%s\n", address[j]
   }' ) | lpr

-- 

				Ronald Florence
				ron@mlfarm.com
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop,comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: varkki@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Varkki George)
Subject: Referring to figures in WP5.1/WP4Win
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:57:11 GMT

WordPerfect maintains a list of figures and tables. Is there some way
of referring to a figure in the body of the text, so that if the
figure or table number changes, the reference in the text is also
updated?

R. Varkki George
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