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From: d_agc@c1.nkw.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Project Cost Accounting software
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:40:04 GMT
Organization: Natural Environment Research Council

Has anyone any suggestions for sources of software (commercial or
otherwise) which support project cost accounting on multi-user unix
systems ? (I'm aware of Unisol JobAcct. Is there anything else ?)

By project cost accounting I mean the traditional thing done on
mainframes whereby users, using a single login account, can allocate
their usage of system resources to different projects, changing project
code part way through a login session when they wish. System resources
include - cpu time, disk space, printed output, etc.

Thanks,
	Alan Cox
	NERC Computer Services
	Natural Environment Research Council

	A.Cox@unixa.nerc-swindon.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: mail expiration program
From: jpp@StarConn.com (John Pettitt)
Date: 28 Jul 92 02:33:45 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Starnet-Public Access UNIX--Los Altos, CA  415-949-3133

murphyn@rtsg.mot.com (Neal P. Murphy) writes:
>It seems to me that any policy of automatically deleting data belonging
>to a user is ethically unsound... especially e-mail.

spencer@rise.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun) replies:
>Then instead of deleting the mail, use compress(1), or pack(1), or arc(1)
>to make it take up less space, and send email to the owner that some of his
>mail has been compressed to conserve disk usage.

Or better still bounce the mail back to the sender with a `unread for xx
days' tag.  That seems no worse than happens when uucp system go down.
The sender know the mail did not arrive.  If you want you could leave a
log entry in the users mailbox indicating the sender and the bounce
date.    

On the ethics front - yes deleting user data is unsound - but unread
email does not belong to the user - it's not been delivered yet
(splitting hairs mode).  Now once the user has read it it's a
different game. (the strategy above assumes MUA's that add a status line).

Just the musings of a retired mail hacker ..


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From: dean@world.std.com (Dean S Banfield)
Subject: Migrating root disk pack - How ?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 05:35:09 GMT

Hi,

We are running a 386 with SCO sys V R3.2.2.  Long ago we put up a root disk 
with 100 MB.  Coming from DOS backgrounds, this seemed like plenty for a 
system.  We now realize as we add products (notably X Window) that products
are picky about residing in /usr/bin and /usr/lib ...

Our root pack is now plugged and can't accept the 30MB distribution of 
X Window.  We have a 200MB pack on line which we have cleared off.  Is there
any way to migrate the root to this disk, then magically tell the system
to boot from it and mount the old disk as a different filesystem.

This seems like one of the most difficult things we have ever had to do 
with our UNIX platform.  Any ideas would be welcome.  Thank you in advance.

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From: a_millsbs@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: IP assignment software ????
Date: 22 Jul 92 12:07:50 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University


Does anyone out there have any software to help in assigning IP numbers?

We have several people on campus who need to be able to quickly reserve an IP
number when they go out to do installs/setup.  It would be ideal if we had some
menu driven software that given information such as  building/location, machine
type, etc  would quickly search through a database and reserve for you the next 
available IP address.  Also, we keep information such  location, username,
machine type, network software used, phone number, etc. for each IP assignment.

I would like software to run on a SCO UNIX, NeXT, or VMS host but I'll take
what I can get.

If I cant find some preexisting software I am going to whip something up with
INGRES or INFORMIX or INTEGRA  or whichever suits my fancy at the time but I
thought mebbe someone out there could same me the time and trouble.

Thanks in advance,

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From: wadswort@babss.UUCP (John H. Wadsworth)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: UUCP pkcget: alarms.
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:28:17 GMT
Organization: Bell Atlantic Business Systems Service Branford, Ct.

In article <1992Jul22.003758.25466@chinet.chi.il.us> naughton@chinet.chi.il.us (Thomas Naughton) writes:
 <problem getting pc with at&t unix to uucp with sun. alarms to death >

I had the same problem with ISC 2.x. The fixes available were:
1) User a slower speed. (a waste of a good modem)
2) Get a serial board with 16550 (if supported by the driver)
3) Replace the serial driver 

I went with #3 using fas 2.09. An excellent package that builds and installs
better than most commercial packages. When I upgraded to rev 3 of unix it
was no longer needed. I suspect if I were to load it now though, I may see
some speed improvements over the native driver.

Fas should be easy to find. It was posted to the net aboput a year ago in
alt.sources.

John H. Wadsworth            BABSS           optimal%babss.UUCP@cs.yale.edu
(800) 677-8549 voice    (203)481-0276 fax      {uunet,yale}!babss!optimal
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.shell
From: alan@dragon.acadiau.ca (Alan McKay)
Subject: whereis tcsh-6.02 ?
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:21:58 GMT

I've heard rumors of a tcsh-6.02.  We are currently using 6.00.03
and would like to upgrade.  I looked in archie but couldn't find
anything that specifically said 6.02 on it, and the list was too
long to just go looking.

Could someone please tell me where to get it?

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: michaelv@iastate.edu (Michael L. VanLoon)
Subject: Re: Looking for multi-chat or partyline software
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 01:20:21 GMT

>In article <akrx5kq@rpi.edu>, ira@virtual.rdrc.rpi.edu (Ira Lee) writes:
>> Hello,
>> I am looking for a program that lets multiple users from different
>> hosts chat at the same time.  I was about to write my own but decided
>> to check the net to see if it had already been done.

Ever heard of IRC--Internet Relay Chat?  It's an international,
multi-channel chat system that runs over the internet.  If I remember
rightly, it's been around since 1988, and has grown at a phenominal rate
ever since.  During the slowest hours in the wee of the morning, you can
usually find 300-400 people online.  During peak hours I've seen over
800.

It's a two part system.  You would run a client on the machine that
people would use to connect to the net.  Clients are currently available
for any flavor of unix, CMS, VMS, and Emacs.  There are also some in
development for direct use from net-connected PC's and Macs.  The client
program would then connect to an IRC server close to you on the net.
You may not know this, but you already have an IRC server at rpi.edu.
Which means you've probably have an IRC client floating around somewhere
too.  The name of your IRC server is netserv2.its.rpi.edu.

Give it a try.  And if you have any questions, feel free to ask me, or
the admin of your IRC server.  They can be reached at irc@rpi.edu.

               *IRC Admin -- ircserver.iastate.edu*
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.misc
From: buboo@alf.uib.no (Ove Ruben R Olsen)
Subject: Re: Need Good (Small, Free) database for Unix
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 08:07:22 GMT

Alan McKay writes:
[... stuff deleted due to the d} syndrome ...]

>Is there a nice little PD/Shareware database available for Unix
>that would be well-suited to these little tasks?  I was told to
>look specifically for something "PICK based", but I don't really
>have the slightest clue what that means.
>
>Something I think would be useful is a database that you can 
>interface with shell scripts.  Like with AREXX on the Amiga.
>Is that asking too much?

Nope, check out perl. There are several exstensions to perl (or
perl expandos if you prefer that name): oraperl, curseperl comes
imediatly to my mind.

REXX may be better suited for some task than perl, but in the long
run I belive that Perl is the best soultion to small DB's.

\Ruben.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: darcy@druid.uucp (D'Arcy J.M. Cain)
Subject: Accounting on inittab jobs
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:31:29 GMT
Organization: D'Arcy Cain Consulting

I am running a SVR4 (Esix) system.  The jobs generated in inittab don't
seem to show up in system accounting.  I even tried acct(2) from the
program.  Programs started from the rc scripts don't seem to show up
either.  How do I get stats on these programs?  Post or email - I will
summarize to the net.

Thanks

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From: gibian@talent.ljo.dec.com (Marc S. Gibian)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Help Needed: How to send mail to "everybody" at once
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:27:09 GMT
Organization: Software Licensing Technology Group

I have never actually had this need, but couldn't you just send to the
unix group(s) which has all users as its members?  Maybe this needs MH?

-Marc
From: jh@cadre.com (Joe Hartley)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Need values for 5Gb exabyte
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:45:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: fripp.1992Jul31.184508.3489
Reply-To: jh@cadre.com
Organization: Cadre Technologies Inc.

In article 23886@walter.cray.com, hens@snipe.cray.com (Tom Stephens) writes:
>
>In article <1992Jul31.125932.23914@fripp.ri.cadre.com>, jh@cadre.com (Joe Hartley) writes:
>> In article 1952@iex.uucp, danny@iex.UUCP (Danny Shaw) writes:
>> >I have a script that calculates the amount of data that will
>> >fit on a 2Gb exabyte using the following factors.
>> >
>> ># Values for 2Gb exabyte
>> >BLOCKSIZE=126               # Blocking factor
>> >KB=2048000                  # Tape capacity in K-bytes
>> >KB_TO_FEET=341              # Kbytes to tape feet conversion factor 
>> >LOGICAL_BPI=54000           # Tape "logical" density
>> >
>> >
>> >I was wondering if someone knows the values for the 5Gb exabyte drive.
>> >
>> I just set up an EXB-8500 on an ELC running SunOS 4.1.1.  When I called Exabyte
>> to get the parameters for my dump scripts, they said all I had to do was 
>> double the density value so instead of 54000, I now use 108000.  Sounds like
>> this is your fix as well.
>> ---
>According to Sun you need to dump to a different device too.  Add 8 to the device you used
>before. 
>
>
That's only for SunOS 4.1.2 and above.  No direct support is built into
4.1.1 and earlier.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: gaspar@inf.ethz.ch (gaspo)
Subject: Callback PD software for Suns
Summary: anything we dont have to pay for that does dialback
Keywords: dialback, callback, sun, modem
Organization: Twilight-Zone-Algorithms-Incorporated
Distribution: comp.unix.admin comp.sys.sun.misc comp.sys.sun.admin
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:33:42 GMT

	Hi, I just "acquired" a 9600v.25 modem, and am now looking for a
PD/sharew/cpylefted dialback package that will run on a sun4c.  I have
already tried the following packages: callback (with the "howard" libs),
and getty_cb.  Neither of these are really what we need (the "howard" is
too much, and the getty_cb too little).

	If anybody knows of a dialback package that will bolk a sun4c to
a 9600v.25 (and we don't have to pay for it), I would appreciate hearing
from you.  It doesn't have to be fancy, and it only needs to handle a
couple of users/numbers.  Yes, I have tried the usual places (archie,
all the comp.sources archives, and a few other holes), but have not
found anything that really works.  I am also open to "go ask group
such.and.such" or "look around on ftp.some.site".

cheers,

--gaspo.


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: ffeng@cs.tamu.edu (Fang Feng)
Subject: Need help on PC-NFS
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:21:58 GMT

We installed PC-NFS on a PC running DOS 5.0. We are trying to 
connect the PC to a file server which is a SUN Sparc workstation.
The installation and configuration processes were through 
smoothly. However, we could not connect to the server from the PC. 
When I ran nisdomain, it was fine, but when I ran nisset as 
"nisset hostname", it told me that "hostname is not the nis server
for the domain hostname".

I tried to use command "ping hostname". I was told "hostname is 
unreachable". I also tried telnet and unable to open connection.

The server is connected to several other sparcs through an 
Ethernet. They work well. 

Can anyone tell me where the problem might be? 

Thanks in advance.

Fang Feng
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: kumeda@beach.csulb.edu (ANDY KUMEDA)
Subject: Re: anonymous ftp script..
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Distribution: world,local
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:04:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.161626@ece.arizona.edu> mshah@ece.arizona.edu (Munil A. Shah) writes:
>
>	I want to transfer many files by anonymous ftp. And I want to do
>it during the night by running a script. I am really poor with writing
>a script. How can I specify ftp commands(login name,password,get,etc..)
>in the script so that they should go run on ftp prompt and not on the shell
>prompt.?
>
>Munil.

To ftp a file call XNeXT.tar.Z from prep.ai.mit.edu, and record events
in ftp-log, do the following:

#!/bin/sh
ftp -n prep.ai.mit.edu<< EOF_FTP 2>&1 > ftp-log
verbose
bin
user ftp kumeda@beach.csulb.edu
cd /pub/XNeXT
get XNeXT.tar.Z
bye
EOF_FTP

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: dursi@clavius.stmarys.ca (Jonathan Dursi)
Subject: Re: AT&T vs. BSDI --> 4.3BSD-NET2 distribution requires AT&T license!!!
Organization: NSTN Network Operations Centre, Nova Scotia, Canada
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:53:36 GMT

In article <Bs7nKr.3xr@well.sf.ca.us> marquis@well.sf.ca.us (Roger Marquis)  
writes:
> In article <1992Jul29.194040.855@digibd.com> rhealey@dellr4.digibd.com (Rob  
Healey) writes:
> >	It's rather sad really. Any country that would
> >	even CONSIDER the concept of software patents has obviously
> >	got a legal and legislative system that needs to be flushed
> >	down the toilet because it's obviously WAY beyond a chance
> >	of repair. B^(.
> 
> That's why the US software industry is the envy of the world I
> suppose, all those stupid patents and copyrights that reward people for 
> their hard work. 
> 
> Roger (marquis@well.sf.ca.us) 

You mean they didn't tell you when you were learning to program?
Work you do on your *software* development is for the good of the
proletariat.

Bourgeoisie - ly,
	- Jonathan
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From: jon_care@hicom.org
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Bouncy sendmail
Date: 21 Jul 92 01:36:59 GMT
Reply-To: jon_care@hicom.org
Organization: Hicom Sevices

Couple of questions: What System and OS are you running
?
What is you mail transport: uucp, IP, or what?

AT
What errors does the daemon give back, if any?
If you set log level 3 for debuggin (as marked in the file)
what do you get?

Cheers.
Jon Care.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: bonney@esds.mdc.com (Greg Bonney)
Subject: Re: Bouncy sendmail
Organization: Visual Simulation Systems
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:32:28 GMT

I'm guessing that this was in response to my earlier posting about problems
I was having with sendmail.

In article <1992Jul21.013659.16582@lut.ac.uk> jon_care@hicom.org writes:
>Couple of questions: What System and OS are you running

Silicon Graphics Iris running IRIX 4.0.1.

>?
>What is you mail transport: uucp, IP, or what?

What's the difference.  I know IP stands for Internet Protocol, so if I
had to guess, I would say IP.

>
>AT
>What errors does the daemon give back, if any?


From MAILER-DAEMON  Tue Jul 21 09:29:07 1992
Received: by esds.mdc.com (911016.SGI/890607.SGI)
	(for bonney) id AA21113; Tue, 21 Jul 92 09:29:07 -0500
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 09:29:07 -0500
From: MAILER-DAEMON (Mail Delivery Subsystem)
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9207211429.AA21113@esds.mdc.com>
To: bonney
Status: R

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
While talking to mdcgwy.mdc.com:
>>> RCPT To:<@mdcgwy.mdc.com:mark@infoman.com>
<<< 550 Illegal hostname or address "infoman.com".
550 mark@infoman.com... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: by esds.mdc.com (911016.SGI/890607.SGI)
	(for @mdcgwy.mdc.com:mark@infoman.com) id AA21110; Tue, 21 Jul 92 09:29:07 -0500
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 09:29:07 -0500
From: bonney (Greg Bonney)
Message-Id: <9207211429.AA21110@esds.mdc.com>
To: mark@infoman.com

Just a test.


>If you set log level 3 for debuggin (as marked in the file)
>what do you get?

How do you set this?

>
>Cheers.
>Jon Care.


Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin
From: kbass@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ken Bass)
Subject: What could cause duplicate IP address?
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 05:29:33 GMT

What would cause a duplicate IP address? I am referring to an error
message listing a physical link address, not the logical IP listed in
/etc/hosts. 

Around the same time, our nfs connections died. Could this be related?
Could any of this be related to bootp running?

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From: morgan@ms.uky.edu (Wes Morgan)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Help Needed: How to send mail to "everybody" at once
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:50:24 GMT
    <1992Jul17.140319.23953@sdc.com> <TROST.92Jul21233312@romulus.reed.edu>
Organization: The Puzzle Palace, UKentucky

jafl@cco.caltech.edu (John Lindal) writes:
>Does anyone know how to send mail to everyone on a particular system
>without having to specify all the user names?

AAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!

John, this is one VERY EFFICIENT means of putting your personal fat in 
the proverbial fire.   Mass mailings tend to put a significant strain
on most systems, for several reasons:

	1) The disk space allocated for mailboxes is shared among all
           users (on most Unix systems).  Sending messages to, say, 
	   1500 users will often fill up the "mailbox space"; as a 
	   result, NO ONE will receive any further mail until someone
	   goes in and cleans it up.  The administrators break out the
	   hangman's noose and start examining return addresses.

	2) Many mail programs spawn child processes to deliver mail.  A
	   mailing to 1500 people might result in 1500 delivery processes
	   running within seconds of each other.  The system slows to a
	   crawl, and the administrators break out the hangman's noose and
	   start examining return addresses. 

	3) Many users go for months without checking their mailbox.  Your
	   mass mailing might lie, unread, in the majority of mailboxes.
	   The aforementioned "mailbox space" has less free space, and the
	   administrators break out the hangman's noose.

If you REALLY think that EVERY user should see your message, ask your
admins to place it in /etc/motd or, if your system supports the news(1)
command, /usr/news.

Having just recovered from a mass mailing to 1800 users on one of my systems,
I can tell you that this is a Very Bad Thing (tm).


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From: osycs@giac1.oscs.montana.edu (Craig Spannring)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Query:  better finger server?
Keywords: n
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:32:56 GMT
Organization: Geographic Information & Analysis Center Montana State University

In article <1992Jul27.212913.13369@kronos.com> richb@kronos.com (Rich Braun) writes:
>
[ Stuff about wanting users on other side of gateway to be finger-able deleted ]
>unless the user has a login.  And it'd be crazy for us to hand out
>accounts to all our employees on our Internet gateway system:  the
>system would be wide-open to password crackers.

Could you just give the users an account with a password of * and a shell
of /bin/false.  You could then finger the user, but they wouldn't be able
to login.

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From: nws@stout.atd.ucar.edu (Eddie Roberts (The National Weather Service))
Subject: HELP: /etc/resolv.conf for a SUN IPC
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:01:56 GMT


	I am trying to get my system (SUN IPC 4.1.2) to use nameservers
	recently installed. I added the following lines into the
	/etc/resolv.conf file.

		domain some.legalname.gov
		nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xx	
		nameserver yyy.yyy.yy.yy

	I have tried to finger several hosts that are known without
	any luck.        
	Have I forgort something?


	BTW- I also have a HP Vectra/486 running ODT 1.1.  I had no problems
	getting that system to utilize the nameserver.


		Thanks in advance.
		    Eddie Roberts

		    nws@stout.atd.ucar.edu