From: greg_bradt@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com (Greg Bradt aka The Lensman)
Subject: Re: Education Regarding Alternative Family Units (Re: The Analogy Betwixt Gays & Blacks (Re: Children in Samegender Families))
XXXDate: Thu, 31 Dec 92 22:21:02 GMT
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In article <1270@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Paul S Galvanek, psg+@pitt.edu writes:
> Ah Duhhh!  Bill we're not talking about a choice between classes that teach
> homosexuality as something evil and classes that teach it as a something 
> good.  We're talking about the choice between not teaching it at all and
> teaching one set of values.

Actually, it's neither.  What is being taught is that there are a diverse
variety of lifestyles out there.  I have heard of no attachment of values,
such as to say that one is any more "good" or "evil" than another.  =That=
is what appears to be getting the religious right all riled up... the fact
that it says that homosexuals exist =without= putting them down.

> If the person you're responding to doesn't have the right to force their
> values on anyone, why are you insisting that you do have the right to 
> force your values on others?  That's exactly what a program like Children
> of the Rainbow does, it teaches the values that the gay community wants
> taught, it forces children to accept the values (that gays are the moral
> equivelant of hets in all respects) of the gay community in order to pass
> the course and it forces parents to accept their children being taught
values
> that they often don't share.

Show me where a value is being attached to the fact that something (such as
homosexuality) exists.  Yes, young people must be taught to "accept" that
they exist, just as we must "accept" that Aryan Nation exists and has a
right to exist, but simply stating the fact does not automatically imply
that one must approve of them.

> NO ONE, not one single person that I've ever heard, has ever advocated the
> teaching gay bashing or gay bias in the public schools.  The issue is 
> whether no vaules will be taught on the matter or whether the values
> of homosexuals will be forced on children against the wishes of their
parents.

And, since no "values" (only facts) are being taught, what's the problem?

> The issue isn't nearly and murky or clouded as the gay right activist and
> those that support "tolerance" course would like us to believe.  They would
> like people to miss the fact that it is they that are insisting of state 
> enforcement of their values on society as a whole, and not the people that 
> oppose these programs. 

The only "value" they are promoting are those that we, as a society, all
should be sharing... that people should be judged not by some arbitrary set
of prejudices, but as individuals.

Greg Bradt aka ()The Lensman()

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