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From: galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Tascam DA-88 & Fostex (!!)...another crosspost quote...
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:35:59 GMT
Reply-To: galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter)
Organization: New York University

Last one, I promise...see you all in rec.audio.pro

In article <1992Oct6.014903.12624@ultb.isc.rit.edu>  
cms2839@ultb.isc.rit.edu (a.stranger) writes:
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|a.stranger's Index to the 1992 AES convention: (apologies to Harper's)
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..

|Most evasive salesdroids: Tascam , who claimed to have "never heard" of  
dropout
|problems on Hi-8 video systems, and therefore couldn't comment on whether  
this
|also applies to their Hi-8 based ADAT competitor.
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|Most intriguing announcement: Fostex , who announced they will be
|supporting Alesis's Super VHS digital recording format .
|
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Research Associate      251 Mercer             fax:      212-995-4120
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Moog Synthesizers??
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 20:01:44 GMT

All of Moog Music's stock, spare parts, etc. was bought by EJE Electronics
in Buffalo. They did have brand new Memorymoog Plus for sale, as well
as parts, owner's manuals, service manuals, etc. for most Moogs.
Their addres has been posted here as well mentioned in Keyboard and
Electronic Musician. You can also try directory assistance in Buffalo.
If you still can't get it, email me and I'll look it up ...


Shiv

shiv@bnr.ca
From: airpreet@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Sunny Singh or Airpreet)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: FORSALE: KORG m1
Date: 13 Oct 1992 05:15:38 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee, WI
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: airpreet@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

hi...
	i would like to sell my Korg m1 with 6 sound cards..
	for $1000..

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From: georg@miro.nlp.physik.th-darmstadt.de (Georg Mueller)
Subject: Re: ARP INFORMATION NEEDED
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:36:45 GMT
	<1992Oct10.142146.25140@prime.mdata.fi>
Organization: TH Darmstadt, Institut fuer Angewandte Physik

In article <1992Oct10.142146.25140@prime.mdata.fi> tonim@mits.mdata.fi (Toni Miettinen) writes:

    The following text was taken from "The Whole Synthesizer Guide":

What's that? Can you please give full bibliographic information on
this book? Thank's.

	Georg.
From: JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Dropouts in Hi-8mm
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:02:00 GMT


People keep mentioning this high dropout rate in Hi-8mm.  Could somebody
post an actual reference which supports this.  Please, no Len Feldman
speculations.

John
From: dan@cafws1.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Trans-X ??
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:01:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <9210101945.AA15841@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL writes:
>
>There was only one legetimate Trans-X album ... Message on the Radio ..

	Which, in the U.S., was titled _Living_On_Video_.

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From: gingeric9178@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: EPS patches
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:41:53 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

HEllo,
   I know this is an often posted question, but I thought I would run it up the
flagpole and see who salutes.  DOes anyone out there want to trade EPS or EPS16
patches\samples or know of any ftp sites which contain them?  None of the sites
I regularly look at for my SY99 have any eps stuff that i can see.  

NOT GINGERIC9178 at all, but Robert Williams
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: biloggen@cs.few.eur.nl (R.P. Loggen)
Subject: Korg DS-8 multitimbral problems anyone?
Organization: Erasmus Universiteit Rotterdam
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:27:03 GMT

I am using the Korg DS-8 synthesizer.
Recently I bought a MPU 401 midi interface and some
sequencer software.
My DS-8 manual promised me 'full multitimbral power',
I could divide the 8 DS-8 voices over max. 8 midi-channels.

In reality, the result was quite different then I expected.
Notes cutoff, notes forgotten, strange notes, delays in
keyboard-reaction... It seems Korg promises don't work out.
After some tests I suspected that de DS-8 was too slow to
handle multi-timbral data. But I'm not sure.

Does anyone have a clue?

Thanks in advance,
Roeland Loggen
midiot


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From: U15708@uicvm.uic.edu (Mario Kefalopoulos)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: MasterTracks Pro help - please?
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:47:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: uicvm.92289.234757U15708
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

Hello,

I'd appreciate it if you could help me with a few questions about MT Pro
for Windows..

1.  How can I use the markers so that I play a specific part of a sequence?

2.  What is the little keyboard icon that's on the transport window, on the
    step editor window, and on a few other editing windows?

3.  Is there any way to sound each bar (note) on the step editing window?

I don't have access to a manual because I'm trying out a demo.

Thank you very much.


[:> Mario

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From: cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com (R. Craig Dodson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Opinions on Crumar Roadrunner/2 electric piano?
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:25:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: transfer.7251
Reply-To: cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com

In article <48579@shamash.cdc.com> ats@udev.cdc.com (alex t stagg x4718)  
writes:
> Last night, a friend of mine (John, who is not a keyboard player)
> showed me this real retro keyboard he bought when his daughter
> was taking piano lessons a couple years ago.
> 
> While he was pulling it off the shelf I was trying to guess
> what it was. Maybe a Honer something? No a Crumar! Crumar what?
> All I remember back in the seventies was ... maybe an organ? No,
> this isn't that. It says Roadrunner/2 and it has four voice
> switches (piano 1-3 and bass) on the panel to the left of the
> five octave keyboard (F to F!). Gee, maybe this thing is historic
> or something. It seems to be built to survive a war so maybe
> it still works.
> 
> While John digs around for an amp, I look it over s'more.
> On the front side there's a pitch slider, a chorus speed and
> chorus switch. On the left side there's the power cord, switch
> and fuse. (Fuse? Gee, I forgot about those.) On the back there
> are three jacks: output, sustain (pedal, I figure), and bass
> (separate output, I figure).
> 
> John comes back with this old small Fender tube amp with a
> light yellowish-tan cover and sorta browner (from what I can 
> remember) grille cloth. I look at him and wonder what other
> goodies he's got stashed away in his basement...
> 
> We plug it all together and power it up. Just a faint signal
> comes from the amp with everything on 10, but is still enough
> to get something out (the tubes may not have been replaced in
> 20 years for all we know).
> 
> I start to play. I hear this piano-tinkle sound, trying the
> different voice switches individually and in combination. 
> I like them all at once, it's too hard to hear them individually
> because of the low volume. I notice this sweeping sound.
> I turn the chorus off and it goes away. Turn it on and it's
> back. Slide the speed to the left and it slows to almost nothing,
> to the right and it speeds up to this gurgling-bubbling-wah!!
> Back to the middle is a slow but effective type of almost flanging.
> Some kinda filtering is going on here.
> 
> But, I Like it! Character!
> 
> The wife notices I've disappeared from upstairs so John and I
> put the gear away and head back up. I gotta post this to the
> net tomorrow!
> 
> So, whatta y'all think of this thing? Anyone ever own or use one?
> Were they popular or a sleeper? Were they used on any well-known
> recordings? Any idea of their value?
> 
>
It's exactly the same keyboard as my Univox Compact/2. That thing you
describe as a chorus is really a phase shifter. It was a relatively neat
keyboard in the late 70's. I think I paid $325 for it used in '78. I'd
be real lucky to get $100 for it now.

If anyone wants one really bad, let me know . . .

Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer)
cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com
From: galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Tascak DA-** digital 8-track info from rec.audio.pro
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:43:03 GMT
Reply-To: galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter)
Organization: New York University

In article <9210081416.AA19493@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>  
JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL writes:
|
|Well, it's good to see that the Tascam rep I have been talking to has  
been
|straight with me.  I'm not sure why Phil Galanter thinks that the  
description
|in the articl he posted suggests that the Tascam is an inferior product  
to
|the Alesis. ...

and lots more ... 

I don't want to get into a debate with someone who writes paragraphs  
longer than screens :^), but since John mentions me by name, a couple of  
things I would like to mention...

My original post was simply based on a gut reaction given what I have  
grown to expect from Tascam.  They are not a _bad_ company, and I am sure  
lots of great work has been done using their gear, but I've never been all  
that impressed with their engineering.

Now, a deck that is that bulky and uses that much more power to handle a  
format that is smaller and lighter...it might be a sign of more for your  
money, more industrial strength, etc...but it might also be a sign of  
engineers who are just not clever enough to do it any other way.   
Sometimes more is more, and sometimes less is more.

And its easy for vapor to seem better than delivered product...the  
smartest thing for me to say would be "lets see how it looks when Tascam  
actually delivers", but I am not that smart, so a couple of other  
things...

I remember when Fostex first delivered 8 tracks on 1/4" tape, Tascam  
retorted that it was bound to be an inferior product because "you can't  
change the laws of physics".  (Honestly, they said that...).  Of course,  
with a loaded money gun held to their head, Tascam changed the laws of  
physics.

Since my original post I have heard, from a reliable source, that  
originally Tascam did not design a ADAT response product because their  
engineers said that such a product at that price point was simply  
impossible.  Since the unit shown at AES could only flicker LEDs, and did  
not record or playback actual audio, it remains to be seen if they have  
again "done the impossible".

I see the fact that Fostex, a company that for me and many others has  
consistently beat Tascam with lighter, smarter, better performing tape  
decks, has gone with the ADAT format as sweet irony, confirmation, and a  
market factor that will push price/performance in that format to even more  
competitive levels.

Phil

p.s. If you had to choose between a jog wheel and being able to do digital  
track bouncing, which would you choose?

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: sullivan@nodename.dec.com (Greg Sullivan)
Subject: Re: Clavinet Example (was: Re: Keyboard feel (was: Re: CZ101 for sale)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:40:10 GMT


Thanks Jim for the thorough description! (I had not read your message when I
entered my previous reply).

Greg.
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From: ee154fbk@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (MC)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music
Subject: K2000 + sample option - price range??
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:39:05 GMT
Followup-To: poster

A lot of people have recommended the K2000 as THE synth/sampler to
buy.  Now for the boring question:
What price are we talking if I decide to get the invaluable sample
option with the K2000?

Thanks for all the replies,

ee154fbk@sdcc15.ucsd.edu



From: brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter Brooks)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:20:56 GMT
Subject: Re: 8-bit 16-bit
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

I'll chip in my two cents:  One of the true quadraphonic systems (anybody
remember the Quad wars about 20 years ago, and the fights between
the various matrices vs true [independent] quad?  Does anybody care?)
used a carrier system to shift two channels up by ca 30kHz.  The
data was decoded (I believe it was a "LEFT" = LF+LR, with LEFT' = LF-LR)
and sent to the amp.  The reason that I'm going through all this
technotwaddle was that this system was explicitly designed for vinyl.

Not-so-oldtimers may remember the Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs half-speed
mastered LPs.  They used the (somewhat better quality) quad vinyl for
their discs.

We now return you to the GMIDI on a Serge Modular thread.

Pete Brooks
From: b78261@venus.cap.mmc.com (Kevin Brislin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Mini-Korg 2 synth
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:49:16 GMT
Organization: Martin Marietta

I have an old Univox Mini-Korg 2 analog synth that I have owned for a few
years, but know nothing about. It has a small 2-1/2 octave keyboard, has two
outputs labeled "High" and "Low", is easy to program...and that's it! I believe
it was made by Univox in response to the MiniMoog and should have been
manufactured about the early 1970's. Does anyone know more about this little
beast, or better yet, if I can get a manual (or copy of one) for it? I wrote
Korg years ago about it, but never got a response. (Also wrote Electronic
Musician magazine...same results.)
Kevin
From: scharf@lrs.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Ron Scharf)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: JD800 Cards?
Date: 7 Oct 92 10:11:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: LRS

lclarke@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Lee Clarke) writes:

>The JD800 is NOT an Alesis D4 or whatever !!!

>It IS a subtractive synthesis'playback' keyboard with excellent sonic
>qualities and and a robust DSP engine.

I know, I own one of the first JD800s available in Germany (i.e. I have it for
quite some time now ;-)

>Just the opposite of what this poster has stated, the Roland cards are
>entirely useful, and they are NOT 'MOSTLY' drum samples !!!

We're talkin 'bout WAVEFORM cards (the "short" ones), not 'bout
patch cards (the "long" ones). Browse through the contents of the
SL-JD80-01 ... -03 WAVEFORM cards, to see what I mean. There *are*
mostly drum samples (remember: WAVEFORM, not PATCH).

>The drum samples that Roland does provide both internally to the JD800
>and on external cards such as the the SL-JD80-01 Drum and Percussion
>Standard are clear and
>are excellent stereo 16-bit 44.1 kHz sampled sounds, as are all the
>sounds provided on the Roland SL-JDnn series.

No doubt.

>But the JD800 internal sampled sounds are in about 4 categories:
               ^^^^^^^^
[lots of trivial stuff deleted]

I think all JD800 users know the internal samples, this discussion is about
external sample cards.

>These 2 cards are a 'must have' for the JD800.

Ok, I had no opportunity to check the -04 and -05 card sets. So you may be
right this time.

>Oh, by the way, any 'ROCK' references to patch names don't automatically
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^
>refer to percussion...they refer to eletric piano, clavichord, electric
>guitar (mostly electric guitar).

Again: WAVEFORM cards!

Bye
	Ron
scharf@lrs.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de

P.S.
Dear Lee,
I would appreciate the use of a poster's name in followups (that's why
I've put it under the article), not just "this poster".
From: zicarell@jimmy.dfci.harvard.edu (Tom Zicarelli)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: roland mks-20 - midi implementation page from manual
Date: 9 Oct 1992 17:34:14 GMT
Organization: Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: jimmy.harvard.edu
Originator: zicarell@jimmy


I'm looking for a copy of the midi implementation specifications for
the mks-20 module. will gladly compensate for cost of xerox and
fax/mail. please send e-mail. thanks.

tom zicarelli
zicarell@harvard.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: TPKLIN01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (THOMAS P. KLINGLAT)
Subject: JX-3P & MIDI
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:25:41 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11
Organization: University of Louisville

Ladies and gentlemen,

How on earth do I get my JX-3P to listen ONLY to channel 1?  The user's manual
SAID it was channel 1, period.  OK.  I set DR. T's channel 1 for the cool JX-3P
patch I use for bass.  OK so far.  I play my wicked-cool tune and - What the
hell is that noise emminating from my 3P?!?  It's the drums (on channel 10),
Organ (on channel 4).....

I set the CC (I forget which one, the one that turns omni off and poly on...)
but to no avail.  OK I set the TG-100 (I didn't have much money after I bought
the Atari 1040STe, Dr. T's, PG's Band in a box, Roland D-20, KeyBoard stand and
subscription, a desk to put all this shit on, and a chair to sit in) up to
ignore channel 1 information, but I STILL GET THE HASH!

Can anyone help?  I also need some info on send sysex through Dr. T's...

TPKLIN01.ULKYVX.LOUISVILLE.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: jte@beefheart.cc.columbia.edu (Jeff Eldredge)
Subject: Re: Clavinet Example (was: Re: Keyboard feel (was: Re: CZ101 for sale)
Reply-To: jte@beefheart.cc.columbia.edu
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:27:05 GMT

In article <1680267@hpsad.sad.hp.com> smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith)  
writes:
> In rec.music.synth, sullivan@nodename.dec.com (Greg Sullivan) writes:
> 
>     What does a Hohner Clavinet sound like? Could you give me a few  
examples of
>     popular songs? I've heard this talked about before, and I would like  
to know
>     more about it.
> 

As a companion to the excellent technical summary from Greg, I thought I  
would add my two cents worth of archival knowledge concerning "Clavinet  
Masters."  

I guess a list will do:

Terry Adams -- of NRBQ fame (or non-fame).  Probably one of the only  
modern artists still performing live on a Clavinet.  It's his main  
instrument, aside from acoustic piano.  In lieu of a piano, he is  
perfectly capable of going it solo on this thing for an entire gig.  His  
only other keyboard tends to be some kind of synth like a DX-7 mounted on  
top of the piano and usually used for organ sounds, synthish effects and  
noises, and single line solos or hooks.  Adams is simply one of the best  
ever on the Clav, both in his technical facility and in his desire to eek  
out every possible sound on the thing.  He is a quirky Monk, Sun-Ra, and  
Barrelhouse influenced keyboardist.  His Clavinet is used to create  
distorted guitar effects, sweet melody lines, and muted percussive chords.   
He is also known to play it with his elbows, feet, and whatever else he  
can get on there.  One of his most unusual effects is to do a slow  
downward glissando with his fist while doing small oscillations left and  
right.

Max Middleton -- of Jeff Beck fame.  Great Rhodes and Clavinet player.   
Extremely impressive clavinet work on the Blow By Blow and Wired albums.   
Particularly check out the intro of Play with Me on Wired.  He masterfully  
utilizes the interlocking style that is so prevalent on the Clav (because  
of the strength of its lower end).  

Herbie Hancock -- a member of the Clavinet Hall of Fame.  My personal  
recommendation is the Thrust album (a masterpiece of both funk and  
Clavinet playing with particularly nice wah-wah technique).  

Stevie Wonder -- already mentioned.  great clav player.

George Duke -- another 70's fusion scene champion of the Clav

Bernie Worrell -- considered a funk authority on the Clav, though I have  
not heard any recordings that really hold a candle to Herbie or Max.   
Nonetheless, an excellent musician   Allegedly still uses the Clav in live  
situations.   

Miscellaneous Reggae Musicians -- the prominence of Clav (particularly  
with Wah-Wah) in 70's and 80's Reggae music is clear.

Edgar Winter -- soulful and gospel-influenced usage of Clav.

Sun Ra -- avant-Clav

Can't think of any other notables at the moment, though there are of  
course thousands of musicians, famous and obscure who used it in the 70's.  


Jeff Eldredge       
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: srfergu@rufus.erenj.com (Scott Ferguson)
Subject: ftp sites for DX7-II Patches
Organization: Exxon Research & Engineering Co.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:52:06 GMT


I've found the ucsd.edu site for synth patches, and it looks very 
comprehensive. However, the DX7 patches all seem to be for the original
DX7. 

I know that you can use the old patches in the DX7-II, but they don't take
full advantage. Anyone know where I might find some other patches?

Pardon the age of my keys, I've had them a long time, but have only recently
gotten internet access.

If I can't find some patches, perhaps someone is interested in making a 
purchase of a DX7-IIFD????

Thx

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From: xnybpf01@serss0 (Brian P Feeny)
Subject: Kawai K1
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:40:17 GMT



	I am going to assemble a list of Kawai K1 owners on the net.  If
you would like to be on this mailing list then please send me your name,
Email address, and any info you can give me (kawai ftp sites, what patches
do you have, tips).  All who send me there address (email) will recieve a copy
of the list.  Thisour K1 problems will be solved fast.  I plan to include
a list of ftp sites where k1 patches can be obtained, editors/librarians, etc.
	The intention of this list is to strengthen communication between K1
users, and thus bring more patches / programs to the net and the K1 community.

					Brian

please email me at xnybpf01@serss0.fiu.edu
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