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From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: KRS-ONE
Organization: Blue Riddle Productions
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:54:37 GMT

In article <7iuLVB1w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> Sam Bhimji writes:
>- I heard KRS was once homeless, and Ms.Melodie kind of got him back on his fee
>- and he also married her. Is this true?
>- Also, I remeber some lyric off of "By Any Means Necessary"- 'my brother's nam
>- is Kenny, that's Kenny Parker/my other brother ICU is much darker." So does
>- anyone know who ICU is? And on Criminal Minded, KRS says something about his
>- brother being a rasta. I don't what songs either of these lines are from, jus
>- from memory. So what's up with KRS' brothers?
>
>Yah I read that about KRS being homeless, then he hooked up w. Scott 
>LaRock (who worked in a homeless shelter and they started up BDP) He 
>married her, and he also has a son...

I remember seeing an old episode of Yo! where KRS and Freddie took a walk
down to the homeless shelter where KRS used to hang out.  It was there that
he met Scott La Rock and started reading a lot and forming the opinions on
records. He met Ms. Melodie later down the road and married her, but they
divorced last year.  I never knew that KRS had a son, though.  There are
pictures of Scott La Rock Jr. on "By All Means Necessary," but I don't know
if KRS has a kid or not.

>As for that song, it is from 'My Philosophy' (I think) 
>
>I think Kenny Parker is still down wit BDP, but as for his other brother, 
>I dunno...

Haven't heard a lot about ICU lately, but he was "in tha house" for "The
Original Way," the first track on "Sex & Violence," so I figure that he's
still down with the BDP crew.

>Sam Bhimji              sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 

"We'll pick you up and dust you off,
 Stamp BDP on your head and you're off."


-- 
--David J.-----------------------*********************************************
--Blue Riddle Productions 1993---   "RAP IS AN ART/TURN UP THE MICROPHONE"
--dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu-          Coming in 1993 from BRP.
--The Science is upon us...------*********************************************
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From: czap@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Satan)
Subject: Re: Pete Nice & Richie Rich's new joint...
Reply-To: czap@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:59:41 GMT

In article <Bz2GAv.5p1@cs.columbia.edu> haupt@cs.columbia.edu (Marcus E. Haupt) writes:

>The Prime Minister better deliver....He did split up with Serch on "Creative 
>Direction"  issues. Seeing how Serch put up the lamest piece of crap  (
>"Here it comes" since Hammer dropped the MC. Who aksed Serch to cover The 
>Dynamic Tree's classic "The Roof Is On Fire" and not even leave in the good part....
>-- 
>Marcus Haupt                            
>Dept. of Comp. Sci.				
>Columbia University
>haupt@cs.columbia.edu

While I agree that 'Here it Comes' is pretty weak--I hope you don't feel
that the whole album is. I'd say that 'Here it Comes' (both of them) is 
probably the worst track on the whole album...Dont know man...Maybe you
need to listen to the Beasties and Check your head...
						-Mike

-- 
 czap@ellis.uchicago.edu  
 "Waste is a terrible thing to mind."

  
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From: c162-du@po.berkeley.edu (bishwaroop ganguly)
Subject: Re: What If...
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:39:44 GMT


       I am also rather unclear as to Scott LaRock's role in early (and late)
BDP. Clearly, he was (and is) the spiritual leader. He was shot in the Bronx in
'88. Did he do anything on "By All Means Neccesary"? 


        "Real rap asks you to rise up and stand tall/
         Phony rap has you thinkin' you're a Paper Doll."

                                               -KRS 1
                                                from ??? <-trivia question

                                        -Roop

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From: saeed@watson.ibm.com (Saeed Jaffer)
Subject: Digable Planets
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:28:59 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

So what do people know about Digable Planets?  I've heard some of their stuff
on The Box and Yo! MTV Raps and I liked it, but it doesn't seem available in
stores yet.  For those of you more informed -- what do you think?  Who are
they?  What have been their past musical projects/releases?

----------------------------------------------------------------------
--saeed jaffer        		The word cope and the word change
saeed@watson.ibm.com  		are directly opposite and not the same
saeed@athena.mit.edu  					--Speech
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From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: Ice-T
Organization: Blue Riddle Productions
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:04:33 GMT

In article <92351.130034MABBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> * Does it really matter?? * <MABBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>
>I thought that Ice-T had his own label.  Am I wrong on this assumption??
>Just wanted to know..

I think so.  Last time I looked, he was on Sire records, which is, ironically,
the same label that originally signed Madonna.  It's a subsidiary of Time-
Warner, of whom I'm no relation and hopefully never will be.

-- 
--David J.-----------------------*********************************************
--Blue Riddle Productions 1993---   "RAP IS AN ART/TURN UP THE MICROPHONE"
--dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu-          Coming in 1993 from BRP.
--The Science is upon us...------*********************************************
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From: c60a-lj@danube.Berkeley.EDU (Rasputin)
Subject: Re: Heavy D's New Single
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:22:20 GMT

fedde@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler) writes:

>Tyrone Ellison <U14864@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

>> Yo... Anybody out there heard Heavy D's new one "Who's the Man"?... I 
>> heard it the other day, and I think that it's one of the first singles 
>> he put out that didn't directly "cross over" (ie "Now that We've Found 
>> Love" and "We Got Our Own Thang")... It's in there, and I hope the rest 
>> of his new album has the same flavor.

>I wonder one thing, now that we have gotten to Heavy D. Why is it that this
>man doesn't get dissed for crossing over? I mean, we all know how we reacted
>when we saw L.L do "Who's afraid of the big bad Wolf" or when Kane crossed
>over the way he did. People have treated Heavy D as if he was one of the great
>ones, which in some way he is, but stil he hasn't got powerfully dissed...

Thas cuz Heavy D started out with that particular style and has stayed 
true to it thru most of his career -- unlike  LL and Kane who came out
Hard and then crossei over... iz all about staying true to tha game....

				my man Solo and I'm auuudiii...
					RAS
From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Damn...Tresspass
Date: 14 Dec 92 10:12:40
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: panther.ai.mit.edu
In-reply-to: c60a-lj@danube.Berkeley.EDU's message of 14 Dec 92 02:11:21 GMT

c60a-lj@danube.Berkeley.EDU (Rasputin) writes:
|A'ight, I don't know why nobody has mentioned this yet, but what is up with 
|tha Trespass soundtrack... I haven't gotten it yet, but its got a duet wit 
|Ice T and Cube, Ice T wit some dred, AMG, WC & da Maad Circle, Mix-A-Lot, and
|tha Black Sheep....so haven't nobody been droppin no info on it.. it's either
|gotta be real Booty or we got some people not postin' about it....

Like most albums of this type, it's really uneven.  Sir Mix A Lot does
a good job on this one and the Cube/T duet didn't do a whole lot for
me (not that it was bad, just not what I wanted).

I keep planning to write a review but that won't appear until
Wednesday.  As of today, I'm planning to suggest that folks buy the
individual singles they like.  There's nothing on here that folks will
be listening to for years.
--
Peace.
                           "Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things."
                                                     -- Dan Quayle
                                   -\--/-
    Don't just adopt opinions     |  \/  |       Some of you are homeboys
          develop them.           |  /\  | but only I am The Homeboy From hell
                                   -/--\-

Organization: Senior, History, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:55:21 -0500 
From: John Richard Murphy <jm82+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Pete Nice & Richie Rich's new joint...



        I'm probably the only guy in the world that likes Nice better
than Serch.  I don't think Nice was that bad on "Derlicts" but on
Cactus, espically the middle of the album i think he kicks.  Assuming he
writes his own rhymes I like them alot better than Serch's.  The style
he uses on Products of the Enviornment, Triple Stage Darkness, and
espically Wordz of Wisdom.  Man, I think he really comes off. That kind
of uptight style fits the songs perfect.  His voice seems I little
diffrent and his style seems changed on "Derlicts".  Not to dis' Serch
who I think can kick the verses as well.  They complemented each other
well, they should have never thrown in the towel.  The two of them and
Rich they had a future toghter.

                                    Peace
                                    John
From: ren@terapin.com (Charles Ku)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Songs ...
Date: 18 Dec 92 06:50:23 PST
Organization: BBS

        does anyone know who sang 'Rakin' in the Dough', or 'My name is John
Doe' [sounds like Diamond D] ... thanks... btw, anyone pick up Original
Flavor's tape? ... 
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From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (T-Dub - SGP '92)
Subject: Re: House of Pain - True to the Game
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:40:39 GMT

In article <c60a-lj.724102799@danube.Berkeley.EDU>, c60a-lj@danube.Berkeley.EDU (Rasputin) writes:
>d1dol@dtek.chalmers.se (Fredrik Lundholm) writes:
>[stuff deleted...]
>face don't look anything like it's supposed to.  When I first bought HOP, I
>was trippin' cuz for tha longest time I thought that Danny Boy was Everlast..
>
>						Audi syonara....
>							RAS

Yep, me too.  I *knew* that Danny Boy was Everlast; don't know why.  It wasn't
until one day I was flippin' the channels when I saw the jump around video that
I finally realized who was who.  Didn't remind me nothing of the Everlast I
remembered from the Rhyme Syndicate days at all....

                                        T-Dub
                                        SHYGUY Productions

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From: agoyo1@athena.mit.edu (Acee Agoyo)
Subject: Re: Heavy D's New Single
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:12:46 GMT

In article <fedde.724449601@Minsk>, fedde@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler) writes:
|> I wonder one thing, now that we have gotten to Heavy D. Why is it that this
|> man doesn't get dissed for crossing over? I mean, we all know how we reacted
|> when we saw L.L do "Who's afraid of the big bad Wolf" or when Kane crossed
|> over the way he did. People have treated Heavy D as if he was one of the great
|> ones, which in some way he is, but stil he hasn't got powerfully dissed...
|> 
|> He seems to have gotten some suport from other rappers and therefor he seems
|> to have been left alone to play his game...anyone have an idea of why this is
|> like this?
Heavy D never claimed to be hardcore, like Kane or LL were at the beginning of
their career.  It's not like one day he was putting out tracks like "Don't Curse"
then he dropped "Girlz They Love Me."  He always was one of those who started
out not as hard as the others, so I think that's why he was never dissed for
"falling off."  His new album, by the way, is called _Blue Funk_.  


Acee Agoyo
agoyo1@athena.mit.edu
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From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (T-Dub - SGP '92)
Subject: Re: KRS-ONE (was New Stuff)
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:42:12 GMT

In article <7iuLVB1w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Sam Bhimji) writes:
>Yah I read that about KRS being homeless, then he hooked up w. Scott 
>LaRock (who worked in a homeless shelter and they started up BDP) He 
>married her, and he also has a son...
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Sam Bhimji              sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 

KRS has a son?!?  When did this happen?  I know that part of the reason for the
KRS/Ms. Melodie divorce was because she wanted to put family before career and
he wanted career before family.  I would gather having children would have been
included in these discussions.  I've seen pictures of KRS and Little DJ Scott
La Rock Junior before....

                                         T-Dub
                                         SHYGUY Productions

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From: wattsww@ntmtv.UUCP (Warren Watts)
Subject: Re: 1992 Hip Hop Awards
Reply-To: wattsww@ntmtv.UUCP (Warren Watts)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:09:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.191709.4305@ultb.isc.rit.edu> ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>I've seen a lot of posts on the 1992 hip hop awards and a smattering of
>categories, but that's about it.  Is someone already taking care of this?

Charles Isabell(sp), usually handles the New Jack Hip Hop awards. If
you have patience, he will probably call for nominees in january and
then have a vote in February. Your plan does not sound as good as what
was executed last year, and I have every confidence that Charles will
do it again next year. He might want some help, so maybe you can talk
to him when he replies to your post (as I'm sure he will).

Peace,
		    Warren Watts\

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From: rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson)
Subject: Re: Heavy D
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:49:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.154236.9425@iscsvax.uni.edu> steffen8546@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>Can anyone tell me if Heavy D sings the lead for Mood for Love on Big Tyme, or
>is it one of the other members.
>
>Thanks
>Jason
>

Im pretty sure its him, its not like the voice sounds that much different from
what we're  used to from him..


Oh...I was reading Newsday(L.I.  Newspaper) and there was this ad stating that
major record companies in general are making big steps toward refusing to re-
lease records with violent/obscene lyrical content..and it also mentions that
Time/Warner has been  telling the public that the reason Ice-T's "Home  Inva-
sion" has been pushed back is because he was "inspired" to add some more tracks
to the album, when in fact, inside sources say the reason for the delay is that
he had some tracks that Time/Warner felt were too obscene, and could possibly
lead to another controversy such as Cop Killer did...This album was boasted to
be even more wilder than Cop Killer...anyway these new tracks that he was sup-
posedly "inspired" to add are in fact tracks to put in the place of the ones
that Warner is making him drop from the album because of the obscenity..Aint
that something?? First he drops Cop Killer from Body Count's album after such
a long battle,and now he's compromising?? He has the money, I think he should
put out his own independent label, that way nothing is compromised...

                                                                  Peace
                                                                    RJ
From: tim@crash.canon.co.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: KRS-ONE
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:11:51 GMT
Organization: me myself and i

bj+@CMU.EDU (Brandon Chin) writes:
:
|[...] KRS-ONE was actually an acronym for Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over
|Nearly Everyone.  I was always under the impression that KRS-ONE stemmed
|from graffiti-culture.  Perhaps KRS was a writer (graffiti) before he
|was a rapper [...]

It originally was his graffiti tag. The "Knowledge..." thing was cooked
up later.

KRS-ONE = Chris Parker = Chris = Kris = KR1S = KRS 1, <name> <number>
being a very popular tag back in the days.

Tx. [netymologically yours]
-- 
Tim F O'Donoghue <tim@crash.canon.co.uk> <uunet!canon!tim>
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From: terra@reed.edu (Terra Goodnight)
Subject: Re: House of Pain - True to the Game
Organization: UCLA Biochemistry Dept.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:29:30 GMT

In article <Bz2H0I.62n@cs.columbia.edu> haupt@cs.columbia.edu (Marcus E. Haupt) writes:

>
>In staying true to the game, the boyz from the Irish hood stick to what they 
>know. 

I never heard of the San Fernando Valley referred to as the "irish hood" before.

>And who can't appreciate a man who tatoos "End Racism" on his back? 

Especially when he's a bandmate with a former member of the Mickey Mouse Club.

Not flamin' ya really, I like their music, just personally think they're a sham.
(or as they say, they put the "sham" back in "shamrock")

Terra

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From: c60a-lj@danube.Berkeley.EDU (Rasputin)
Subject: Damn...Tresspass
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:11:21 GMT

A'ight, I don't know why nobody has mentioned this yet, but what is up with 
tha Trespass soundtrack... I haven't gotten it yet, but its got a duet wit 
Ice T and Cube, Ice T wit some dred, AMG, WC & da Maad Circle, Mix-A-Lot, and
tha Black Sheep....so haven't nobody been droppin no info on it.. it's either
gotta be real Booty or we got some people not postin' about it....

					Audi like Kirk Gaudi.....
						Rasputin
From: steffen8546@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Heavy D
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:42:36 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Can anyone tell me if Heavy D sings the lead for Mood for Love on Big Tyme, or
is it one of the other members.

Thanks
Jason

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From: dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel DuBois)
Subject: id who stole this sample
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:40:13 GMT

This was stolen from James Brown.. I heard the original James Brown song
and went: "Ooo! who took that?? Damn, I cant remember" and its been driving
me bonkers... the sample is "Ladies and gentlemen, there a seven acknowledged
wonders of the world, you are about th\o witness the eight..." and "this is
the JB!"

who dis?

-Dan
From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (T-Dub - SGP '92)
Subject: Re: Sound bites!
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:36:12 GMT

In article <BzBt0x.Bxs@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.) writes:
>All of that info, however, will follow later.  In the meantime, enjoy the
>tracks, and remember, Blue Riddle Productions is in FULL effect for 1993...
>
>-- 
>--David J.-----------------------*********************************************
>--Blue Riddle Productions 1993---   "RAP IS AN ART/TURN UP THE MICROPHONE"
>--dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu-          Coming in 1993 from BRP.
>--The Science is upon us...------*********************************************

Just a question out of curiosity.... Who is Blue Riddle Productions?  Is it a
group of people?  From your post and your sig, it seems as if Blue Riddle
Productions is just you.  I ask this because I just want to clarify this in my
mind, no other reason....

                                            T-Dub
                                            SHGUY Productions

Xref: sparky alt.rap:6739 rec.music.funky:1928
From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: alt.rap,rec.music.funky
Subject: Let The Games Begin! (was: 1992 Hip Hop Awards)
Date: 13 Dec 92 14:04:10 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: panther.ai.mit.edu
In-reply-to: wattsww@ntmtv.UUCP's message of Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:09:38 GMT

wattsww@ntmtv.UUCP (Warren Watts) writes:
|Charles Isabell(sp), usually handles the New Jack Hip Hop awards. If
|you have patience, he will probably call for nominees in january and
|then have a vote in February.
[...]

Isbell.  Wasssup.  We do not have to wait until January because the
awards are here!  The nominations run from now until mid January and
the votes happen from then until sometime in mid-February.

Official message:

Wassssssup?

It is time.  The Second Annual New Jack Hip Hop Awards have begun.  I
know, I know, the official time isn't until Tuesday, but no one's
going to release anything new Monday, so why wait?

Anyway, I'll be sending out the RULES and the nomination form. The
rules are long winded, but I'm anal about these sort of things.  Try
reading the first part after the introduction about ELIGIBILITY, just
so we don't end up sending lots of stuff back, okay?  The nom form
will be reposted once or twice a week.  Read those diections.  Think
about it and nominate.  Think hard now.

Let the games begins.
--
Peace.
                      "If a man hasn't found something he will die for, 
                       he isn't fit to live."
                                          -Dr Martin Luther King, Jr
                                   -\--/-
    Don't just adopt opinions     |  \/  |       Some of you are homeboys
          develop them.           |  /\  | but only I am The Homeboy From hell
                                   -/--\-
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:05:32 -0500 
From: Olayinka Kolawole <hotsauce+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: To dis or not to dis

Well, 
    I just heard Scoob And Scrap's new joint....'Common Sense' i think
it's called.....to me inparticular they sounded like average emcees, and
not at all influenced by their mentor/exemcee.....
    But the thing that surprised me is when Scrap (I think it was him)
says loud and clear....

    '....I even got more flavor than PE'

Now, my question is...is this the PE we all know and love?

Anyone know who/what they are talking about...and by the way if it is PE
they are talking about...then they are wrong about their flavor.....

                                        'you're welcome'
                                                ...The Sauce...

    

Organization: Sophomore, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:07:18 -0500 
From: Brian Lyle Millspaw <dselecta+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Turntable Fer Sale

Excerpts from netnews.alt.rap: 13-Dec-92 Turntable Fer Sale by --DJ
Revolution--@vax1.u 
> For those of you who are interested in gettin yer hands on the real shit,
> I got (1) Technics SL1200Mk2 Turntable, with Technics slipmat, and
> Stanton 500 DJ cartridge.  The turntable is only 4 months old, and in 
> perfect condition with the original boxes and manuals.  
> buyer pays $475 + s/h.

See'n hows a Stanton 500 iz $30 and da slipmat $5 max

you got ganked at $440 my brotha


-Dselecta on da wheelz

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