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Subject: Re: Lebeau (Gambit)
From: Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:42:54 EDT
Organization: The Pennylvania State University

In article <schmidt2.718511070@scws2>, schmidt2@scws2.harvard.edu (Gary Schmidt)
says:
>
>        Just for the sake of trivia, has anyone noticed that the Marvel3
>card of Gambit lists his real name as "Remy Beaudreaux" instead of R. Lebeau?
                                             ^^^^                        ^^^^
People change their names, you know.  It's pretty easy to make the change
between these two.  Especially if LeBeau was just a nickname and thats all
that Bishop ever knew Gambit by.

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From: dmcclue@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Patrick McClue)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Theory: Cable has a daughter!
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:18:59 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Oct14.211802.6788@abo.fi> MHANNINEN@finabo.abo.fi (Mika H{nninen Inf) writes:
>
>Oookay. Cable does *NOT* have a son. He was talking about whassisface...the new
>weapon X. Now I remember - Kane! 



Thanks to you and others for clearing this up...but like I said before, I
don't buy X-force so I didn't know...this thing about a son was mentioned in
a NM book.

Now we don't have to worry about Cable junior...but was anything ever said
about Rictor's father?


Patrick
From: Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Sinister
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 92 01:05:38 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <1992Oct6.060316.21758@u.washington.edu>
  <Oct.6.09.09.10.1992.25128@dorm.rutgers.edu>

There was chicken soup in the container.  

Just like in the Mr. Freeze episode of the animated Batman, "Heart of Ice."

PAD
From: leffel@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Christopher J Leffel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: X-Cutioner's Song
Date: 11 Oct 1992 07:08:30 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: leffel@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

I was just wondering if this crossover series has irked anyone else out
there in netland...  I think marvel must think the average customer has the
I.Q. of a turnip...  

To me, a good crossover issue should be a story in and of itself like issue 
#16 of Deathlok (for a recent example).  The cover states that it is an
infinity war crossover and what happens in the issue is a result of the
infinity war, but you did not have to read every infinity war issue to
figure out what was going on...  With this x-series marvel expects you to buy
not one or two other issues but *nine* (assuming you only read one of the
x-series ;) I think this is out of line and is nothing more than a
*bad* idea to increase sales...  So I am going to do my part to offset this
and no longer purchase x-force.

Later all

Hitman
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From: amstazds@tacom-emh1.army.mil (VICIAN Theodore)
Subject: Re: Ideas to help the mutants (was: Re: X-cutioner's Song)
Keywords:  Wolverine in X-books
Organization: U.S. Army Tank Automotive Command (TACOM)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:33:04 GMT

I started reading the X-books because of the Wolverine series.  I don't
know if this makes a fanboy or not but I still don't want to see Wolverine
just basically disappear.  I am a little sick of seeing him, Ghost Rider
and Spider-man (all books I read) making guest appearences (sp?) every-
where.

This is what I'd do with Wolverine:
1.  Take him out of X-Men, etc. for 6 to 12 months.

2.  No guest appearances anywhere for that span .

3.  Now in his own book only, we spend the six months resolving:
a.  Logan's past and origin
b.  His grief over Mariko's death
c.  Other important details of his life

4.  He then returns a chnged (changed) man, a better leader and just basically
more in control.

I know all this in-depth character analysis and plot resolution is probably
beyond Marvel, but hey!  I can dream.:)

Ted
(just MHO)
From: boehmer9694@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Rogue (Re: Lebeau (Gambit))
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:08:15 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

>    while we're on the subject of powers, when's that last
>    time anyone saw rogue use her absorbing powers?!

A good question.
I don't seem to recall her using her powers since absorbing Colossus while
fighting Master Mold/Nimrod before getting sucked through the siege
perlious(sp?). What's going on here? Just a lapse in the writer's use of them,
or, dare I say it, a plot twist in the making???
Any comments, questions, or clues?
                                     Catch Ya on the Flipside!
                                     R.J. Boehmer
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Uncanny #295
Summary: Kate Bush is God
Keywords: HAH!
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:08:38 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <8epSHRm00iV0Q4ssQe@andrew.cmu.edu> mk56+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael
J. Keating) writes:
>It's time once again to get back to business on the net.  (Has anyone
>noticed how unruly it gets when there's no current new issue to talk
>about?)

Bah! You obviously have spent no time on rec.music.gaffa, where the varied
and sundry Kate Bush fans have been waiting for YEARS for some new music to
talk about.

"So, yuh wanna talk about Hounds of Love again?"

"Go away."

>Here's my two cents on Uncanny 285

Here's my .02, and I'll raise you a Canadian quarter to make it an even
.08. The whole thing was one long prelude to, hopefully, some better
resolution in the upcoming cross-overs. Wolverine and Bishop invading Canada
won top ludicrous honors once again, although Jube's joke about Cable and
the ice cream bucket was top-notch.

So far, the crossover has amazed me by not boring me to tears, like the last
two or three. But then, I had the Infinity War to give stiff competition for
my prime dullness time, too. Things could be grim for the last half of the
episodes.
-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - CTHULHU in '92! Why vote for LESSER evils?
"Boy, do I love PLASTIC!" -- TJ Teru // What was your question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
dhenry@plains.nodak.edu * ud137927@ndsuvm1.bitnet * ud137927@vm1.nodak.edu
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From: rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Walrus and April)
Subject: Re: FAQ (was:RE:Apocalypse)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:06:35 GMT

>In <rlcarr.066z@animato.network23.com> rlcarr@animato.network23.com writes:
>
> (1) Who/what is Apocalypse?
> (2) What are his powers?

Y'know, I have a decent answer to both of these questions.  I've finally 
figured out who Apocalypse is.  He's a future version of Reed Richards on
steroids. 

:) for the humor impaired

The Walrus
From: zeus@watserv.ucr.edu (Zeus)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Maverick
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:45:52 GMT

Vahid Fozi writes
-->
-->So far, I thought that by far the best among the new X-Men stories was 
-->the one about Omega Red. And, as some of you might have guessed, what 
-->thrilled me the most about them was the mysterious new man, Maverick! Not 
-->only does he know more about the past of Sabretooth and Wolverine than 
-->any other character, but he oozes ... well, he oozes machismo (corny as 
-->it sounds). I was wondering if anybody knew anything about plans to 
-->continue Maverick. I've read the two-part Maverick series where he kills 
-->that doctor for Barrington, but I haven't had the chance to read any of 
-->the comics past number 9, because my mom is sooooo cheap. Anybody have 
-->any idea?
-->


Nothing - except that the trading cards said that Maverick had the ability to  
look into the immediate future and choose the best route for himself...

IMHO that makes him a incredibly powerful character...  Maybe too powerful to  
be well written.

chris

PS: get a job... for $$$ :)
From: aj005b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Nazi Hunter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Uncanny #295
Date: 11 Oct 92 22:13:31 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <8epSHRm00iV0Q4ssQe@andrew.cmu.edu> mk56+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael J. Keating) writes:

>It's time once again to get back to business on the net.  (Has anyone
>noticed how unruly it gets when there's no current new issue to talk
>about?)

>Here's my two cents on Uncanny 285


>The part with Jubillee at the beginning was really kind of nice.  She's
>a great source of comic relief, along with Guido.  I can just picture
>her making jokes about Shatterstar's mother.  I kind of wish they would
>have printed it....

>What is the deal with the way they are handling Apocalypse?  I'm tired
>of the way writers just keep adding on more and more to a character. (Be
>it powers, weaknesses, whatever.)  I just would like some continuity. 
>Has anyone ever heard of these safehouses before?  I might just be
>forgetful...


>I don't like the way Alex suddenly has become so headstrong.  Do you
>remember the Alex from Uncanny a few years ago?  He was a whole lot
>weaker as a personality.  I admit I've been a less-than-avid reader of
>X-Factor recently (sorry PAD),so I might not know just what he's been
>through, but this is such a switch!  It seems to have happened too
>quickly.

	I actually like the new Alex.  He's older now and in more control. 
He's always been a bit headstrong, it's only now that he can benifit.  He
finally knows the benefits of his powers and is ready to use them.  I'm glad
that he's finally been developed.  Now it's time to work on somewhat like
Rogu.

>I can't believe that Wolverine and Bishop practically invaded Canada. 
>With Val's position in the government, I find it hard to believe that
>the only way to retrieve those records was to storm the place.  (I know,
>I know, how else could they be expected to meet up with Cable?)

	After the Morlock affair where Bishop attacked policemen and the
X-men all but destroyed Times Square with nary an apology.  The X-Men are
almost as criminalistic as X-Force.

>How could Apocalypse trash the X-Men so easily?  A few pages earlier, he
>was supposedly feeling pretty awful (physically).

	Remember Omega Red.  He destroyed the X-men, but Wolverine could
hold him off indefinitely.  It's just a case of MMuT's (Marvel MUtand Team)
bad continuity.

That's all folks.  The Dark Ghost has spoken.
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From: robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au (Robi Karp)
Subject: Re: Alex & Lorna, or a very Sinister child....
Reply-To: robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au
Organization: Expert Solutions Australia
	edu> <Bw2y7L.IGD@acsu.buffalo.edu><1992Oct14.005725.4976@njitgw.njit.edu>
	<92288.092347EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 05:45:23 GMT

In article <92288.092347EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu> Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

: I thought Corsair could generate bolts of energy, which he channeled through
: his sword.  Maybe thats another superhero I'm thinking of.  SHOKK is not as
: learned in the ways of trivia as obscure trivia lad.

You're thinking of El 'Eagule or somesuch, The Eagle translated from
Spanish. He's a Marvel mutant that chanels bolts of electricity and
normally uses his sword for this, although it isn't necessary. He
appeared in an old issue or two if Marvel Team-Up.

BTW: It's not that I'm back or anything, it's just that we haven't
really gone quite yet.

	- Robi
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From: 885celio@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Dampening Rogue's mutant power
Date: 8 Oct 92 02:15:52 GMT
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <uplink.718505299@cwis>, uplink@cwis.unomaha.edu (John M. Scheibeler) writes:
> 	I'd actually like to see the angst level go down for once and
> let Rogue do the wild thing with Gambit.  With all that girl has been
> through, I think it's time she had a little pleasure in her life.
> 
> uplink
> .s
> 
Yeah, Gambit is so confident about his being able to hold up to Rogue's mutant
power, I'd love to find out if it's true or simply overconfidence on his part. 
:)
--GC
From: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Wha happened?
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:47:36 GMT
Reply-To: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu


	Uhm, pardon the stupid question  (I mean, we're talkin' Marvel
here), but what do you suppose happened to that small nuclear arsenal
Cable was toting around last issue?  He somehow seemed more formidible as a
one man South American death squad as opposed to "Guy with a gun."

P.S.:  Is it just me, or nothing really happening?  The X-teams have thus
	far accomplished nothing!

	And, uh, outta curiousity, just what does anyone think Psylocke
was gonna do to Xavier?  I've got a couple o' theories, but I'm rather
fuzzy on Betsy's background.  Any ideas?

	Until Doctor Strange decides to butt in,
		King Rat signing off!!!



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From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: A brain scratcher...
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:49:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.095138.2362@bvc.edu> daikerjohnc@bvc.edu writes:
>    Wasn't it the John Byrne issue where Banshee lost his voice by reflecting
>shock waves and utterly DESTROYING a small island?  The main villian, who's
>name I can't remember right now, fell down a volcano shaft after being
>defeated by Power Man & Iron Fist (I think), and when he awoke was being
>experimented upon by APOCALYPSE (it was all in a flashback)?

I think putting Apocalypse in that story was a retcon made in a bunch of
extra panels added for the Classic X-Men reprint.  As far as I know, Apocalypse
first appeared in early X-Factor issues.
--
"the bogosity in a field equals the bogosity imported from related areas, plus
the bogosity generated internally, minus the bogosity expelled or otherwise
disposed of."  -- K. Eric Drexler

Ken Arromdee (UUCP: ....!jhunix!arromdee; BITNET: arromdee@jhuvm;
     INTERNET: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)
From: aj005b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (DarkGhost)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Cable and the Technovirus
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:06:02 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1bfbkmINNjsr@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mikecap@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Vince Caprio Jr) writes:


>In regards to the "Cable as Terminator" comment in a previous post...
>Wouldn't Cable look like a robot if all his organic parts became Techno-organic
>parts? (including his face, arms, etc.) His skin-recreating technology would
>be used to hide his disfigurement, and make people think he had a cybernetic
>arm, etc.
	I believe the technovirus was removed at the cost of Cable's arm,
spine, sanity etc.  He has shown no signs of technovirus powers that others
like Nashtris have.   CyberLock would be a good example of what a
technoperson would look like.
  
>That comment about Apocalypse draining mutants (and draining Nathan); I'm
>curious...
>Does this destroy the mutant's powers?  We know Nathan/Cable still has his
>TK powers (from his mom, Jean, of course).  I wonder if he has a Cyclops type
>power he hasn't used yet (his glowing eye)...
>Just some rambling musings...

	The draining of little Nathan's power wasn't permanent.  It could
have been drained as long as Nathan lived, since he generated it.  His power
that is.

		The Dark Ghost has spoken.
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Rogue (Re: Lebeau (Gambit))
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:44:20 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <21071@plains.NoDak.edu> dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.200816.7392@iscsvax.uni.edu> boehmer9694@iscsvax.uni.edu
>writes:
>>>    while we're on the subject of powers, when's that last
>>>    time anyone saw rogue use her absorbing powers?!
>>
>>A good question.
>
>Oh, JOY! Rogue questions! And, I guess when I see that the same question is
>asked more than once in one newsreading, it must not be just a case of
>localized ignorance, but Something that People Really Want to Know. As such,
>I deliver.

Anyone else think that rac.xbooks should get it's own FAQ?  I'm sure
there's enough questions out there to warrant at least a short FAQ.

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
From: mobey@arrods.enet.dec.com (arrods::mobey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: and Doom makes three
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:59:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: decuk.1992Oct7.145813.15646
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Posted-Via: NEWS-NOTES gateway (a hack!)


     re: Illyana's mystic armour
    
    and Dr Doom in the promethium exchange
    
    Gary M
From: aj005b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Adam W. Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Storm's New Power?
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:04:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: galileo.1992Oct9.210412.25209
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <Bvtn9t.9K6@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> rissab@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Larissa Bemis) writes:


>	Got a question for all you comic book people.  I read but don't
>collect.  Anyway....  In X-tinction Agenda (towards the end) Genegineer
>"gives" Storm the ability to be catalyst to restoring the X-men's abilities
>(if I understand completely that is)  after Wipeout gets rid of them.
>I don't recall if Wipeout died or not.  Any way, my question is this:

>	Can Storm now continually be catalyst (since it's in her genetic
>	structure now) the next time another Wipeout equivalent zaps the 
>	X-men???

>I'm really curious to see what anyone has to say regarding this since I
>_believe_ it should happen that way.  Then again, I may be putting way
>too much reality into this and it was somehow just a one time thing.

	I would like to know if Storm is still undetectable by mechanical
means, as Wolvie, Colossus, Havoc, Rogue, Psyloche, Longshot, and Dazzler
became as a result of dying at the end of "The Fall of the Mutants" series.
	I would be interesting if that were a detriment. "Uh-oh, Wolverines
unconscious in the cavern, if we can't find him in time, he'll die.  Hey,
we'll just use the tracker here.  Uh-oh, it's not picking up anything.  He
must be in another cavern."  And so the plot thickens.
	 			    The Dark Ghost has spoken...
From: jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Dampening Rogue's mutant power
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:01:58 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

joak@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jonathan A. Kung) writes:

>I've thought this through, and to everyone who's been saying, "Why
>can't Forge make a gizmo to nullify her absorbing power so she can
>do the nasty but still keep her flight and strength and invulnerability,"
>no can do.  There's no way for Rogue to keep her flight or anything
>else from anyone if she doesn't have her absorbing power.  Think of

I may be going out on a limb here, cause I don't have the issue to 
refer back to handy, but didn't Rogue still have her flying (& strength)
although weakened, after H.P. Gyrich hit her with Forge's Nullifier?
I know he said it wasn't a full-strength shot, but I don't remember
all the details...
Anyone?

			James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
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From: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Subject: Re: The DARKFORCE
Reply-To: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:39:39 GMT

In article <910252m.12.718646180@ace.acadiau.ca> 910252m@ace.acadiau.ca (DWAYNE ALLAN MACKINNON) writes:
>Netters,
>     Okay, I could be mistaken, but didn't Blackout die in The Avengers? (
>Something to do with the takeover of Avengers mansion.)
>
>     Also, isn't it Black Mamba of the Serpent Society that uses the 
>Darkforce, not the Asp? (The Asp fires bioelectric energy, I believe.)
>
>As for possible others using the Darkforce or its dimension:
>
>Doorman (The Great Lakes Avengers)
> Believe it or not, that's all I can think of. There's really not that many 
>of them.

Don't forget Nightcrawler. (In one of the first appearances of the
vanisher, he was stuck half-way in the darkforce dimension.  When
nightcrawler touched him, they were both shunted into another dimension, in
which neither of their powers worked.  The reason that they were shunted
was that they used the same dimension for their teleportation powers.)


//Karthik
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Subject: Professor Peabody in DAN DARE
From: pols051@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:24:18 GMT
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

I just have a brief inquiry about the British comic character "Dan Dare".

The question is: when the FIRST Dan Dare series came out in the 1950's, what 
was the first name of Dan's companion Professor Peabody, and was Professor 
Peabody male or female?

Reply through the bulletin board or e-mail if that is easier.   Thanks.

Andrew Hoy
University of Canterbury, New Zealand.
From: smd@hrt216.brooks.af.mil (Sten M. Drescher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Cable=Stryfe
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:51:09 GMT
Organization: AL/HRTI, Brooks AFB

In article <Bw6vrC.Gxn@cs.psu.edu> antunes@astro.psu.edu (Sandy Antunes) writes:

   Now the question is, are they going to invoke some sort of "Seige Mirrorous"
   which was used to create Strife... or maybe Cable in the future leapt
   through the Seige Perilous and had a rogue-type effect, splitting into
   two selves... no, even marvel isn't that... well... hmmm....

	No, what happened is that Nathan Christopher Summers was using
his TARDIS(tm)/transporter(tm) hybrid, when it got some strange yellow
ore in the materialization circuits, resulting in an evil NCS, and a
not-quite-so-evil NCS.  Note: unlike a certain starship captain, NCS
lacked a truly 'good' side to be split.  The determination of which of
the Cable/Stryfe pair is the evil and not-quite-so-evil one is left as
an exercise for the reader.
-------------------------------+---------------------------------------------
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Brooks AFB, TX 78235           | tried.  They are men of courage, compassion,
-------------------------------+ and justice.  On the other hand, there are
sdrescher@animal.brooks.af.mil | presidential candidates.