From: v999saum@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Varnavas A. Lambrou)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Turkish invasion in Cyprus 1974..
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:54:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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>From: terziogl@ee.rochester.edu (Esin Terzioglu)
>Subject: Re: Turkish invasion in Cyprus 1974....
>Date: 25 Jan 93 01:51:04 GMT
>Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

>>Posting for Varnavas A. Lambrou.
>>------------------------------------------------------------
>>From: "Varnavas A. Lambrou" <V999SAUM@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu>
>> [stuff deleted]

>>
>>WHAT IS TURKEY AFTER?
>>
>>Turkey had expressed interest in dominating Cyprus long before she could
>>manufacture a story of "eleven years of oppression" of the Turkish Cypriots.

>"Manufacture a story"??! Where were you during the period of 58-74? Well,
>I was lucky enough to be born at the end of this period but the stories 
>I heard from my own parents (I do NOT think they would lie to me!) are not
>encouraging at all. 

I was UNLUCKY enough to live and to understand from the eyes of a 6 years old
child all the "peace" and and "protection" the "peace keeping" Turkish Army
brought to Cyprus. And you know, I have parents too. And they told me stories
about the '60s. And I DO BELIEVE THEM.

>If you want to talk with us, Turkish Cypriots, about 
>the "Cyprus Problem", you are more than welcome to do so, but if you are 
>going to do Greek/Greek Cypriot propaganda on the net, serving nothing else
>but making the gap between the two communities of the island even larger;
>you are not serving any intelligent purpose. Do you really want "peace" on
>the island? Well, I do. But I also want to be safe, secure, with no fights,
>discrimination etc. You seem to be quite a "fanatic" person from your 
>postings. It is precisely people like you (both from Turkish and Greek side)
>who destroyed the peace of the island. Cyprus needs loyal people who can
>say "I AM A CYPRIOT, and PROUD OF IT" BEFORE they say "I am Greek/Turkish".
>Well, you are certainly not one of them. The future of "United Cyprus" 
>depends on the existence of this type of people on both communities. Since,
>this type of people are scarce on both sides, "unification" seems a distant
>away. We need quite a bit of work and TIME.
> 

The scope of all the things I sent to the GREEK network, was not to accuse
you, the ordinary Turkish Cypriots, for anything. And if you have read all the
postings carefully, you will be able to see that I am not saying that the
Greek Cypriots are saints. The point was to give the story from my side of 
view and if you have any arguments you can state it point by point. You would
also notice that most of the things I wrote are based on interviews, or comments
Turkish officials or Turkish Cypriot officials made during that period. I am
not making a propaganda, like the one Argic or Okan do. I am not writing about
how many people were killed, and how and by whom. Don't you think, we could
have a museum showing all the victims killed by the Turkish Cypriot extremists?
Victims not only Greeks but also Turkish Cypriots. We are not doing this. I am
not doing this. As I wrote in a previous posting, we have ourd ideas and you have
yours. The point is to stop the accusations and the justifiacations for crimes
committed in Cyprus.

>It is a mere historical fact that the Turkish Cypriots were oppressed, 
>discriminated against and KILLED by the Greek fanatics between the period
>58-74. Of course, there was retaliation from the Turkish Cypriot community.
>I myself have always felt the pain of never seeing either of my grandfathers...
>If you are fanatic enough to DENY such REALITIES of the past, then I have 
>nothing to say to you.

I am not denying anything, Ersin, and don't get influenced by other people's
postings. But I am fed up, having Argic and Okan writing all these PROPAGANDA
about Cyprus, and trying to justify one of the worst crimes committed to the
people of Cyprus: The Turkish Invasion in 1974.

> 
>Regards,
>E.T.
>a Cypriot.

Thinking Ahead,
	Varnavas A. Lambrou.

P.S. Can you tell me what are those two writings on the Pentadaktylos Mountain?
And what is their purpose?
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