From: tkelsey@panix.com (Tom Kelsey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: NOTICE to ALL r.a.t.s POSTERS
Date: 26 Sep 92 14:20:05 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <-65nmrq.amyk@netcom.com> amyk@netcom.com (Amy Kurtzman) writes:
>In article <1992Sep18.005520.25583@sbcs.sunysb.edu> cgordon@csws16.ic.sunysb.edu () writes:
>
>>Re:  our posting style.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>I LOVE SOAPS!   I LOVE DISCUSSING THEM ON THIS NET!   HOWEVER....
>>I've just spent the last 1-1/2 hours searching through the group to find
>>news on my 2 favorites.  Unfortunately, the majority of the time was spent
>>killing articles pertaining to other soaps (my kill file is eating up most
>>of my disk space).  So....I make a very heartfelt REQUEST....
>> since a kill file will search the subject line, let's reserve that strictly
>> for the shows' abbreviations--WITHOUT COMMENTS....
>>   yes:  SB      no:  SB: Katrina's departure
>>   yes:  SB      no:  SB/Wednesday update
>> and, the sub-headings could be placed on the first line of the article....
>>   <official heading info>
>>   Subject:  SB
>>   <more official heading info>
>>
>>   Katrina's departure
>>
>>   <text of article>
>>
>>This way, we will only have to kill a handful of subject handings (one for
>>each soap we don't watch) during one session versus having to kill 100s of
>>articles during each session!
>>
>>Please, speak your mind on the subject....
>>And, we will need someone far more knowledgeable than I to come up with an
>>exhaustive list of soaps and their abbreviations (it seems that everytime I 
>>come back after a long absence there's a new show).  We should also come up
>>with one abbreviation for all readers....e.g. ALL
>>
>>Peace, ya'll!
>
>NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Basically, I think you need a more sophisticated kill file. It sounds
>like you are killing each individual article and including each new
>subject heading with the kill. The r.a.t.s. FAQ on kill files shows
>how to make one that only requires one line per soap that you don't
>want to read about. The kill file doesn't need to take up half of your
>disk space! I am not an expert on kill files, so I can't quote the
>exact format here (and I'm not a Unix expert, so I don't know how to
>look at my kill file right now without losing this article). But I do
>think I have described your kill file problem and proposed the right
>solution.
>
>The idea of including only the referenced soap (e.g., SB) is bad
>because then I would have to spend more than and hour and a half
>looking at each article to decide it if I want to read it. With topics
>in the subject line, I can scan them all at once using = and only pick
>the ones of interest.
>
>The abbreviations have been standardized and usually only newcomers
>use the wrong ones until the error of their ways is pointed out.
>
>-- 
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Amy Kurtzman                   |  "By August I'll be just a puddle."
>amyk@netcom.COM                |     
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------

FOLLOWING MY BE HELPFUL:

 
>For those folks using "rn" on Unix systems who wish to get rid of annoying
>postings by obnoxious people, one way of doing it is typing:
>        /Sender: hbm@ddsw1.mcs.com/h:k
>When you are at the end of an article.
 
You may use also:
        /From: hbm@ddsw1.mcs.com/h:k
 
>If the obnoxious person should get a different account on his
>machine for the sake of circumventing the above listed command, then do:
>        /Sender: different-account@ddsw1.mcs.com/h:k
 
or:
        /From: different-account@ddsw1.mcs.com/h:k
 
>The way the above command works, is that rn is told to look through each
>article for the character string between the slashes.  The "h" after the
:>second slash says to look for the string only in headers.  The colon ":"
>is used to separate the search string from the command to be applied to all
>articles matching the search.  After the colon is the command to be applied
>to all those articles; in this case "k" for kill ("j" for junk would also
>work).  You could do a variation on this with a kill file, but that file
>needs to be parsed each time you start reading a newsgroup, and that can be
>slow.
 
For the users of Kim F. Storm's 'nn':
 
The kill file entry looks like this:
 
:!n=:Hasan B. Mutlu
 
If you want a case-independent kill, use the following entry:
 
:!n/:hasan b. mutlu
 
The kill file entries mentioned above remove the postings from 'Hasan B. Mutlu'
in all the newsgroups.
 
A group-specific kill entry is:
:
:!n=:talk.politics.soviet:Hasan B. Mutlu
 
If you want to get rid of everything that has '2.5 million muslims' in the
'Subject: ' line use the following entry:
 
:!s/:2.5 million muslims
 
The kill file entries are placed into "$HOME/.nn/kill". This file can be
updated both by using the "K" command of the 'nn' news reader or by using
a text editor. If you use the "K" command of the 'nn', you have only to
answer the questions displayed by 'nn'.
 
Happy hunting,
 
Nick Sandru
 
aka Long Haired Nick
 
NB: I included the posting on 'rn' kill files in order to get the whole
material together in the same posting. If anybody can help with similar
documentation on other news readers ('trn', 'gnus', 'xrn' etc.) I can
:put together a FAQ on kill files to be posted regularily in the groups
infested by mutlus and other related pests.
 
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