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From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: 7th floor drop
Date: 4 Sep 1992 06:20:17 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

It has been a very persistent rumor at U.C. Berkeley, that about 10 years
(20?) ago, a frosh boy fell off a 7th-floor porch on Unit II's Ehrman
Hall.  He fell onto the roof of a VW buggy in a TOTALLY intoxicated state,
so that all his muscles were relaxed, so he walked away from the fall with
only a few bruises.

    Not surprisingly, Ehrman Hall is also where the University (surreptitiously)
puts all the most rowdy students.


Newsgroups: iu.general,alt.folklore.college
From: "Marc VanHeyningen" <mvanheyn@raisin.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: graduating virgins legend
X-Quoted: 53%
Reply-To: mvanheyn@whale.cs.indiana.edu
Organization: Computer Science Dept, Indiana University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:30:52 -0500

Thus said fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Fulton):
>Every college has some legend about "when a {virgin|non-virgin} graduates
>from {university} {event-X} happens."  At Indiana, when a virgin graduates,
>a fish disappears from Showalter Fountain.
>
>Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know it happened.  Following 
>graduate ceremonies last week, there is now one less fish in Showalter
>Fountain.  Whoever you are, step forward :-)

Yes, and even though it happened months ago, it was just *so* very
IMPORTANT and TIMELY that it was on the *front page* of the
Horrible-Terrible.  I guess they didn't have any high school Basketball
photos to put there yet.
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of mechanical engineering would want to work on perpetual motion!"
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.urban
From: parker@navier.math.uh.edu (Ronald L. Parker)
Subject: Re: Survey Ranking College Men and Women
Organization: Society to disband societies. (Good thing I'm the only member!)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:47:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.173509.1811@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> jrnf@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey R.N. Forbes) writes:

>Here at Stanford, I have repeatedly heard legends of some
>"Marriageability Survey" ranking college men and women at
>different schools in terms of whom makes the best spouses.
>The criteria for deciding this "Marriageability" is unknown,
>and is supposedly determined just by common personal
>preferences.  

[ Details omitted ]

>So far I have heard of it being in Playboy, Rolling Stone
>and Cosmopolitan but no article was found in those
>magazines.  If anyone has heard of this survey, and has some
>evidence for and against it I'd like to hear you input.  

I can't verify any of the numbers, but I can verify that Playboy published
something like this in the late 60s or early 70s.  It wasn't exactly a 
marriageability survey, but it did detail the dorm and general university
climates for various popular universities, in a somewhat humorous fashion.
Unfortunately, I don't have the magazine here, but if I find myself burdened
with lots of free time this semester, perhaps I can try to find it.  

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From: jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl)
Subject: Re: 7th floor drop
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 13:04:49 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <186v71INN1bu@agate.berkeley.edu>, robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
|> It has been a very persistent rumor at U.C. Berkeley, that about 10 years
|> (20?) ago, a frosh boy fell off a 7th-floor porch on Unit II's Ehrman
|> Hall.  He fell onto the roof of a VW buggy in a TOTALLY intoxicated state,
|> so that all his muscles were relaxed, so he walked away from the fall with
|> only a few bruises.
|> 
|>     Not surprisingly, Ehrman Hall is also where the University (surreptitiously)
|> puts all the most rowdy students.
|> 
|> 

  My neighbor at UND (North Dakota) fell out of his second story window
while adjusting his tv antennae.  His intoxicated roomies (who were keeping
him from falling )decided that it would be funny if they let go of his 
feet.  He was fine...

  I was also there the night a FRESHMAN climbed out his 4th floor window
to go back to a frat party.  His buddies had blocked him in, cause he
was obnoxiously drunk.  The wing I lived on was directly opposite his 
window, and several of my friends saw him plunge.  He fell into some
bushes and bounced, but was fine.  LOTS of people lost it when they
saw him fall, though. 

Jared "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH...THUD" Dahl
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: rsch2867@cl2.cl.uh.edu (Brownfield, George)
Subject: Re: graduating virgins legend
Summary:  just another followup
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Reply-To: RSCH2867@cl.uh.edu
Organization: University of Houston - Clear Lake
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:51:00 GMT

In article <92244.092633F13@psuvm.psu.edu>, Kevin <F13@psuvm.psu.edu> writes...)
> 
>    Here at Penn State University, the legend is that if a virgin ever
>walks past a stone obelisk in the center of campus, it will crumble to dust.
>The thing has been standing for about 100 years now, so you can draw your
>own conclusions.
> 
>Kevin Furrow (f13@psuvm.psu.edu)

PS - as a former PSU student - you need to know that the reason the Obelisk
is still standing is because everyone gets screwed by the University. <-=

ObDisclaimer - I loved Penn State - if I could, I'd live in State College.
That's just the complete version of the "legend".
Newsgroups: iu.general,alt.folklore.college
From: beowulf@wam.umd.edu (amealuh)
Subject: Re: graduating virgins legend
Organization: Ghostbusters, Inc.
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 15:15:31 GMT

Thus said fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Fulton):
>Every college has some legend about "when a {virgin|non-virgin} graduates
>from {university} {event-X} happens."  At Indiana, when a virgin graduates,
>a fish disappears from Showalter Fountain.
>

heh... at Maryland, the legend is that the bronze statue of our Fierce
Aquatic Animal Mascot Testudo (located on his pedestal in front of the
library) will sprout wings and fly.

my older brother graduated from maryland this past spring and i wanted
very badly to affix a pair of wings to testudo in his honour... except...
i have no confirmation one way or another.

at least, i didn't until after he graduated. bummer.

beo


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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: wasylik@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael Wasylik)
Subject: Re: Survey Ranking College Men and Women
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 03:36:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.151828.22404@exu.ericsson.se> exuhag@exu.ericsson.se writes:
>
>Ever notice that university students often complain about how their
>school is really dead and they wish they attended a happenin' party
>type o' place?  And examples of other such schools are always at hand.
>At those other schools students do the same bit of moaning, citing the
>first university as an example of *real* party school.
>
>Interesting twist:  After attending the University of North Texas for
>two years I discovered that it had a reputation in the southern half
>of the state for having 10 female students for every male.  In reality
>it is either 1-1 or pretty darn close.

Sometimes, though, there's some truth to the matter.  I recently graduated
from Northwestern (yeah, another one slipped through the cracks :)  )
and I remember bitching about how little of a party school it was.  There were
few, if any, real "college" bars in Evanston, and the rest of the social scene
was dominated by a fairly uninventive Greek system (compared to other Greek
systems, that is.  I see Ted F lurking in the shadows!)
 
I am now attending Florida State Law School.

Wow.

Tallahassee has FSU, Florida A&M, and the state government.  This is a real
college town.  The women are beautiful, far prettier than anyone in Chicago.
The bars jump, at least five nights a week (from what I recall before my
classes began :)  )  and even we, the law students, party like crazed animals
on Friday and Saturday nights.  

I'm glad I went to NU, but it's soooo nice to be back in the Sunshine State.

Mike

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,iu.general
From: fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Fulton)
Subject: graduating virgins legend
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:00:56 GMT

Every college has some legend about "when a {virgin|non-virgin} graduates
from {university} {event-X} happens."  At Indiana, when a virgin graduates,
a fish disappears from Showalter Fountain.

Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know it happened.  Following 
graduate ceremonies last week, there is now one less fish in Showalter
Fountain.  Whoever you are, step forward :-)

-- 
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fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
"Get the hell out of my way!" - John Galt
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.urban
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Survey Ranking College Men and Women
Keywords: Marriageability Surver
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:31:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.173509.1811@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> jrnf@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey R.N. Forbes) writes:
>The legend is that this survey was printed in some major
>magazine some time ago and Stanford Men were ranked 2nd
>behind UCLA (???) while Stanford women were ranked
>200-something far behind U of Texas.  This survey has been
>used as part of the reasoning behind the other legend (much
>more factual) of the lack of dating at Stanford.  This
>survey has been quoted by many people in varying years, but
>no copy has ever been posted to my knowledge or has a
>true reference to the specific magazine and article ever
>been made.

My guess is urban legend.  Similar stories arose at Brandeis about
apocryphal Playboy surveys ranking B-deis women as among the ugliest
or quotes ostensibly attributed to Woody Allen that "Nine out of ten
Jewish women are beautiful, and the other one goes to Brandeis."  A
variant has Brandeis ranked as the country's worst party school.  One
version of the rumor even named the issue of Playboy that had the alleged
survey, but a friend of mine researched the question and found it false.
To my knowledge, the Woody Allen quote doesn't exist either.

ObUL: When Brandeis was accidentally left off the Wall St. Journal's list
      of the ten most expensive colleges, the VP for PR at Brandeis wrote
      a letter to complain, and got fired when the Journal published the
      letter on page 1.
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: mds@iastate.edu (Mark D. Smucker)
Subject: Re: graduating virgins legend
Organization: Iowa State University of Censorship and Repression
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:04:59 GMT

In article <78734@ut-emx.uucp> andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Andrew Hackard) writes:
>   (their idea of carnal pleasures was playing "floor tag" in a 14-story
>   dorm -- if you want details, please, don't ask),

Floor tag? 

We need details.   I can see the incoming freshmen, ``Did ya hear?
Now that we are in college we can play FLOOR TAG!''

Mark D. Smucker   ----   mds@iastate.edu
From: rasvma@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Survey Ranking College Men and Women
Date: 27 Aug 1992 20:11:23 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Keywords: Marriageability Surver

In article <1992Aug26.174249.29954@news.iastate.edu> mds@iastate.edu (Mark D. Smucker) writes:
>the top party schools.  I saw the Playboy and the list
>probably over 7 years ago...  I remember the University of Iowa being
>18th or something.

The list I saw was much more recent, for anyone who wants to look it
up I saw one during the summer of 1987.  I believe it was the issue with
Vanna White in it, but don't quote me.  This was a party school listing.

Vanessa

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: chil@fraser.sfu.ca (Keith Lim)
Subject: Re: Looking good with mouses
Keywords: Unknown
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 03:13:52 GMT

nunn@nutmeg.cs.ntu.edu.au (JsNO  BAR---NUNN) writes:

>  What I want to know is; is there any cool movement (or as such) that
>professionals do seperate the novices from the pro's when using mouses?.

Put the mouse on the floor and move it around with your foot (and use
your toes to click the buttons.) That way, you don't have to take your
hands off the keyboard.

-- 
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Forum (Cog Sci); Senate; CDSU; ASC. ...but all opinions are my own only.

"Oh yeah, I remember you...the soup girl."
"No, the *soap* girl...S-*O*-P-E."         --from "Married...With Children"
From: ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: 7th floor drop
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:11:55 GMT
 <1992Sep04.130449.9178@rchland.ibm.com>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Sep04.130449.9178@rchland.ibm.com>, jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com
(Jared Dahl) says:
>In article <186v71INN1bu@agate.berkeley.edu>, robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry
>Robertson) writes:
>|> It has been a very persistent rumor at U.C. Berkeley, that about 10 years
>|> (20?) ago, a frosh boy fell off a 7th-floor porch on Unit II's Ehrman
>|> Hall.  He fell onto the roof of a VW buggy in a TOTALLY intoxicated state,
>|> so that all his muscles were relaxed, so he walked away from the fall with
>|> only a few bruises.
>  My neighbor at UND (North Dakota) fell out of his second story window
>while adjusting his tv antennae.  His intoxicated roomies (who were keeping
>him from falling )decided that it would be funny if they let go of his
>feet.  He was fine...
>  I was also there the night a FRESHMAN climbed out his 4th floor window
>to go back to a frat party.  His buddies had blocked him in, cause he
>was obnoxiously drunk.  The wing I lived on was directly opposite his
>window, and several of my friends saw him plunge.  He fell into some
>bushes and bounced, but was fine.  LOTS of people lost it when they
>saw him fall, though.

     Hm.  The little brother of a good friend of mine was celebrating his
birthday with another student (who shared the same birthdate) in their dorm
last spring, during the last week of school.  The other guy was totally
wasted and stoned, and fell out of a two-story window onto concrete.  I
think, but I'm not sure, that he's still in a body cast.  Maybe he was a
little too tense?

Brett
From: kbest@doc.novell.com (Karl Best)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Survey Ranking College Men and Women
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:57:21 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.

In article <1992Aug27.111229.58432@cc.usu.edu> slb3y@cc.usu.edu (Punk  
Rocketeer) writes:
> In article <Aug.26.11.03.09.1992.26362@math.rutgers.edu>,
> cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar) writes:
> > I heard a similar story about Brigham Young University (which is owned
> > by the Mormon church and has a no alcoholic beverages policy).  In the
> > version I heard, the school president wrote a letter to the Playboy
> > editor-in-chief thanking him for his kind words.
> 
>      This probably refers to the November 1982 issue, wherein they
> rated college campuses for sexual temperature.  BYU hit the bottom of
> the list, of course.  "Hottest Place in Town" was any plane leaving
> Provo.

I was at BYU in '82 and remember there being a Playboy article (mentioned in  
the newspapers of course, no-one on campus had an actual copy) rating BYU women  
as the best-looking in the US, or at least close to the top of the list. As I  
recall the BYU administration was not happy about BYU being so honored in such  
a publication, but there wasn't much they could do about it.

The following year a Playboy photographer showed up trying to recruit coeds to  
pose for the magazine; he was quickly shown the way back to the airport.

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 13:53:32 -0400 
From: David O Hunt <dh4j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: graduating virgins legend

At my alma mater (University of Massachusetts) there is a statue of an
indian (forget the name).  Legend has it that the statue will drop the
spear from its hand if a virgin graduates.

David
From: bruno@broue.rot.qc.ca (Bruno Majewski)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: DataPoint (Was: Non Unix-OS's)
Date: 26 Aug 92 12:50:42 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Groupe de Recherche Operationnelle en Telecommunication (ROT)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

ivie@cc.usu.edu (CP/M lives!) writes:
: In article <1992Aug18.211927.4075@news.uiowa.edu>, jones@pyrite.cs.uiowa.edu (Douglas W. Jones,201H MLH,3193350740,3193382879) writes:
: > Is DataPoint still out there?  How are they doing?  Is there a
: > relationship between the TRS-80's operating system and the DataPoint
: > RMS system?
: 
: I think they're still out there. I hear that DataBus (blech!) is being worked 
: into an ANSI standard.
: 
: Roger Ivie
: ivie@cc.usu.edu

*** re.: DataPoint's current status:

If memory servers me right, DataPoint Canada was bought by their ex-service
subsidiary (whose name eludes me for the moment).

Some rumours say that the San Antonio head office was relocated to Paris,
France, along with the main shareholder, because he has some problems with 
the US justice dept. -- and because DataPoint has carved a successfull 
niche in the french insurance (sp?) industry.

The Wall Street Journal said in a recent article that a class lawsuit
brought against the raider that bought DP in `85 (?) was reopened.

*** re.: DataBus's current status:

DataBus was, as of 1990, being worked on by an ANSI commitee (sp?). But
insted of correcting some *major* flaws in the language, their were simply
adding to the bulk. 
Though I remember someone in the DataBus User Society Newsletter saying
they were orienting the language more towards C (how?).

*** re.: relationship between RMS & TRS/DOS:

Besides the fact both of them share a common "smell", does anyone know
any *hard evidence* concerning a possible common origin or common anything?

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From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Origin of locked-in subwindows
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:38:31 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <17j727INNnb0@early-bird.think.com>, by barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin):
> In article <5831@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at> mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner) writes:
>>Does anyone know where the idea of windows that are locked into the
>>frame of another window originated?
 
> The Lisp Machine window system has had frames, which are windows that are
> subdivided into other windows (called panes), for over a dozen years.

What I know as panes are tiled over the window background, with fixed
relative size and position, because their contents are interdependent
and they don't make much sense alone (say, the class and method lists
and the method code in a Smalltalk browser - sorry, my Explorer days
did not last long and are long over).

What I meant (sorry if I did not explain myself clearly) was that in
the Program Manager of Windows there are multiple "application group
windows" (Tools, Applications, Games,...), each, when opened,
containing a number of icons representing different windows
applications.  When you open such a window (to enable you to start the
applications contained within), you can resize and move it as an
ordinary window, but only within the frame of the Program Manager
itself, i.e., the Program Manager acts as a kind of virtual screen for
that window, and you can't get it out of there.

First, this takes up space and clutters your screen, since you have
two sets of window margins and possibly scroll bars.  Second, if you
want to enlarge the subwindow's dimensions, you first have to enlarge
the encompassing program manager window as well, since resizing is
handled independently.  (Not moving, fortunately - the internal window
retains its position relative to the outer window if you move the
outer window.)  
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: Bucky.Whaley@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bucky Whaley)
Subject: antique collectables (WAS Re: Apple /// ...)
Keywords: antique
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 03:43:09 GMT

In a previous post, kenm.8@compctr.ccs.csus.edu writes:
>	The Apple /// post really just prompted me ask if there are any
>other (crazy) persons such as myself who collect 'antique' microcomputers.

I have a Superbrain QD.  I keep meaning to put hairpin legs on it
so I can use it as a chair (its case is kind of slung-back like some 
plastic chairs I remember from the late 50s), but I haven't gotten
around to it yet.

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