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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Wed,  9 Sep 1992 08:55:16 -0400 
From: "Susan R. Wagner" <sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cat loves being held upside down

>Great pics.  Our Maine Coon loves being held like a baby too and is totally
>trusting of us.  We can hold her head and hips and toss her about without
>any worry on her part.  She requires several of these hugs per day and if
>I am home all day, she constantly whines to be held like this. I often work at
>the computer with her in my arms.  She also 
>sleeps on her back alot and often between my husband and I - we keep her
>stable.  She also loves belly rubs.  I think she thinks shes a dog.  


This sounds so much like Jester it is unbelievable.  When we get home
from work, he expects to be picked up and held like an infant.  He will
lay on the floor by the front door until one of us picks him up.  I cook
dinner holding him over my shoulder.  He is also very trusting.  My
husband carries him in the most interesting positions, usually upside
down, and Jester just lets him do it. He also like to have his belly
rubbed.  He will stretch out his entire body (front paws above his head
and back paws straight behind him) and demand belly rubs!  We got him
from the pound,  we think he spent to much time with dogs!!!  He also
fetches religously, it is his number one form of entertainment!!!  What
a great cat!!

Susan and Jester


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: XOPR81@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Keith Azuma)
Subject: Re: *****PLEASE ADVISE- NEW CAT PROBLEMS*****
Organization: Motorola
Date: 4 Sep 1992 15:29:39 CDT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com (PAM DRAPER)
Subject: Re: *****PLEASE ADVISE- NEW CAT PROBLEMS*****
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4
Reply-To: draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com
Organization: GTE Government Systems, Federal Systems Division, Chantilly, VA
Distribution:  usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:12:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.225632.20066@auto-trol.com>, katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy B
>keller@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>: I need advise from anyone who has brought a new cat into a home that has
>: already been claimed by another cat.
>:
>: I found a stray a while ago, and if no-one answers my flyers, I would like
>: to keep "Bob". The only problem is Madeline, our existing cat.
>: Maddy is a female, not fixed and has all her claws. Bob is a big male, no
>: claws, neutered. Madeline has no idea what to make if this intruder.


Get her fixed.




My experience was to ignore everything for 48 hours or so,
they should get along much better after the cooling-off period.
Hope things work out for you and yours..
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: GQ.JLS@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lynne Sinclair)
Subject: Affectionate adult cat needs home
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:34:50 GMT


Abandoned Adult Cat Needs a Home

A "good Samaritan" is caring for a friendly, loving adult black
cat that was abandoned in her apartment complex when its owner
moved away. She needs to find a home for this cat, because she
cannot keep it permanently.

Here is a description:

    The cat is very friendly.  It is a large cat, all black
    except for some white on its chest.  I don't know if it is a
    male or a female.  When I pick it up it immediately starts to
    purr, and since I have now been feeding it for two weeks, it
    hangs around my front porch, wanting to be petted.  I can't
    keep it because I already have a cat and I'm only allowed one
    pet where I live.

If you know of any prospects, will you please refer them to
Grace Evans. She lives in Palo Alto and works at Stanford.

Phone: 723-3368 at work or (415) 494-1722 at home.
Email: Grace.Evans@forsythe.stanford.edu
From: collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Goodbye Thomasina-the-cute
Keywords: I'm in shock.
Date: 4 Sep 92 23:25:20 GMT
Reply-To: collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce)
Distribution: usa
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

I'm very sorry for your loss.  I hope you can find some comfort in 
the fact that she was only ill for such a short time and that she
lived a happy life, while with you.  Tamora and I will be sending hugs
your way this weekend.   :-)


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From: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday!
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:52:34 GMT
Reply-To: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf)
Organization: Materials Research Lab



On that note! Yesterday was Dante's first birthday!!!
We celebrated by opening a fresh can of chicken
POUNCE...and POUNCE he did! That's his favorite flavor!!

For his birthday, he gets another dog! :-) (Dante loves dogs
and it just so happens that our new GSD pup will be ready
Friday afternoon...close enough to his Tuesday B-day!)
Think that's bad...for our Cocker's first birthday we gave
her Pixel, the Siamese....:-) See, even our pets have pets!
:-) :-) :-) 

Kay & the Crew
 
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Wife to Peter, the Patient; Mommy to Baeki, the Happy Cocker Spaniel; 
Owned by Pixel, the Cuddly Siamese and Dante, the Quilter's Cat. Also
Quilter, Collector of Model Horses, and Horse Fiend! 
             All opinions are my own...mine mine mine, ALL MINE!
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From: sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (Maven o'Mirth)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Why Do Cats Sit on Paper?
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:52:22 GMT
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

>>On 02-Sep-92 in Why Do Cats Sit on Paper?    
>>user Karen Schneider@panix.co writes:
>>This has probably been addressed before, but why is it that
>>cats will zero in on the teensiest piece of paper and plop themselves
>>down on top of it?  Not that I'm complaining--it's just that after
>>twelves years with His Royal Highness I'd like an answer, and he's
>>not forthcoming...

Hemingway doesn't seem enamored with sitting on paper in and of itself; he
simply knows that most of the important things in my life can be found on
pieces of paper (at least, this early in the school year, it seems that
way :) ) and he figures the best way to distract me is to interrupt
whatever I am doing by sitting on the piece of paper I am currently
dealing with.  He also loves to bury himself under two or three blankets
and lie perfectly still until I try and organize them or (God forbid!) go
to bed at a decent hour, at which point he sets up a bizarre yowl and then
cannot be convinced to calm down for at least an hour.

Another Hemingway story (though I know I'm off the subject somewhat :) )
His favorite toy is a crumpled piece of typing paper (makes a great noise
and slides well on the hardwood floors, as does he), and he has recently
decided that fetching is fun--I htrow the paper (originally a tactic
designed to get him away from me), he chases it, he mauls it, he picks it
up in his mouth and brings it back for me to throw again.  And sets up the
same weird play-howl if I don't promptly comply.  I haven't been getting
much sleep...

--
Sheryl Stover				|  How passing fair is youth,
*>sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu<*		|  Forever fleeting away;
and Hemingway, feline philosopher	|  Who happy would be, let him be;
Watch this .sig for news of the		|  Of tomorrow, who can say?
upcoming album from Seattle's 		|	-Lorenzo de'Medici
premier band, the Medici!		|


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon)
Subject: Re: Another cat?
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 16:43:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.044625.21746@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu> mmilicevic@spike.psc.scarolina.edu writes:
>MAKE SURE ONE THING WHEN YOU BRING IN YOUR NEW CAT. DON'T PAY ANY ATTENTION
>TO THE NEW ONE. ALL YOUR LOVE AND PETTING SHOULD GO TO THE OLD CATS, DO NOT 
>EVEN NOTICE THE NEWCOMER. I KNOW IT IS HARD BUT THEY WILL GET ALONG THIS WAY
>AFTER ONE WEEK. IF YOU PAY GREAT ATTENTION TO THE NEW CAT THE OTHER TWO WILL
>BE JELOUS AND YOU'LL HAVE A PROBLEM.
>
>GOOD LUCK, MLADEN


If we get another cat to keep the 12 week-old-kitten we have now company
for when we both have jobs, we will probably get another kitten (for a variety
of reasons).  Can you really ignore a kitten for a week like that?  We got
our cat when she was 8 weeks old, and she really needed our time and attention.
And still does!

--Karen
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 10:48:31 EDT
From: <KAJ2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Help, I need some advice!

I have two kitties, 4 months old.  I just got them a week and a half ago.  For
the most part we have adjusted well to each other.  However, the male, Colby,
has gone from a sweet unasuming little fuzz ball to an arrogant, aggressive lit
tle beast.  He loves to wrestle with his sister, Jordana, who is much smaller
but he will not stop when she growls at him.  Is she really all right or do
I need to intervene?  I'd like to think that she can take care of herself,
but she doesn't seem to be able to get away from him when she doesn't want
to play any more.  She even tackles him sometimes, but gets herself in the
same position - pinned down, unable to get up......Will he become less
aggressive after he is neutered?



Also, how do you dissuade a cat from a certain behavior when loud noises, and
a squirt gun have no effect?  Both of our kitties couldn't care less about
being squirted or clapping hands, or a loud no!  What's left?


It's a good thing these guys are so cute and I am so enamoured with them!

-Karen
(relatively new mom to Colby and Jordana)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: davison@menudo.uh.edu (Dan Davison)
Subject: Re: Goodbye Thomasina-the-cute
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 19:42:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.132704.1817@novell.com> mlinda@ca.novell.com
(M'Linda Taylor) writes: 

   She was only two and gave me sooooo much. 

<<<HUG>>> <<<HUG>>> <<<HUG>>> <<<HUG>>> <<<HUG>>> <<<HUG>>> <<<HUG>>> 

Hang in there,
Dan, convenient-home-appliance for
        Katie, Splotch and Tiger (RIP)


--
dr. dan davison/dept. of biochemical and biophysical sciences/univ. of
Houston/4800 Calhoun/Houston,TX 77204-5934/davison@uh.edu/DAVISON@UHOU

-----RIP Isaac Asimov 1920-1992     I'll miss him --------------------

Disclaimer: As always, I speak only for myself, and, usually, only to
myself.

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: brianm@sco.com (Brian Moffet)
Subject: Re: Cats, fleas, Precor, etc.
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:07:29 GMT
Keywords: Cats,Fleas, - not working out

colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten) writes:

>Also someone told me that the water we use to drown the fleas should
>be laced with Ammonia - but I've hesitated to do that for fear of
>poisoning the cats.  So if we use Ammonia - what kind, how much (per
>how much water) and is it safe?

The basic reason for lacing the water with ammonia  (or any detergent actually)
is to reduce the surface tension of the water, making it easier to drown
the fleas.  With a lowered surface tension, the fleas will sink easier,
and thus drown easier.  I have found that by tapping the fleas as the sit
on top of the water, you can get them to sink to the bottom where they
will try and jump, and it is so delightful to watch them *suffer*!!
Mwa hahaha!!!   (ahem, excuse me....)

Anyway, my technique, since our cat likes to drink anything around him,
is to tap the fleas until the sink, they may attach to your finger,
just put them back in, and then sink a piece of tissue paper on top of them
so they have a harder time crawling out.  Let them drown for about 12 hours 
and then get rid of them by either flushing them with the scoopable litter,
or dumping them down the sink.

brian moffet

--
"Face it, Chuck.  Taken as an aggregate, the human race is a stupid, sorry lot."
                           -- Jonathan Quist

brianm@sco.com  or uunet!sco!brianm                    Speaking for Myself
From: krw@prg.ox.ac.uk (Kenneth Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: COVERED LITTER BOXES: Seeking advice
Date: 5 Sep 92 16:16:39 GMT
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory

We're about to move from our spacious (well, for central Oxford
anyway) two-bedroom house to a rather small one-bedroom flat,
and I'm a bit concerned about cat litter dust.  We use the
clumping stuff (Forever Fresh, to be exact) and keep it in a
downstairs closet where the dust doesn't bother us.  But after
the move, we're going to have to keep the litter in the bathroom,
and so I want to find a good way to contain the dust (not to
mention the litter that our two little lovelies kick all over
Hell's half-acre!)

All of which leads me to ask for advice on covered litter boxes.
I`ve seen some with a cat-flap type door and others with just
a hole.  And I think I've heard people mention that you can get
ones with filters on them.  I'd really appreciate hearing from
anyone who has experience with any type of covered box, or who
has any recommendations on which type to get.  And what about
introducing older cats who have always had an "open plan" 
litter box to the covered type?  (Our two cats are 3 and 4
years old.)

All advice gratefully received.  Use email rather than news,
and I'll post a summary.

Cheers,

Ken

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: collet@scripps.edu (Thomas Collet)
Subject: Diabetic cat - travel problems ??
Organization: The Scripps Research Institute, La Jolla, California, USA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:43:48 GMT

I just thought I should let everyone know, who Mr. K is doing -
he is my cat who just developed diabetes. Well, the initial dose
has been increased from one times 3 units ultralente to 2 times
8 units lente, and still plenty of glucose in his urine! He seems, 
however, stable enough and I hope to get the dose right soon.
Of course there has to be another complication, which is that I am
moving to Germany soon; this will involve an 11-hour plane flight
from LA to Frankfurt. Now, how the heck do you provide a cat with
a litterbox during such a flight? Incidentally, we have two cats,
but as most people with a diabetic cat know, they drink and urinate 
about a million times more than a normal cat to get rid of excess
glucose.
Any suggestions? I have considered getting a huge cat carrier, but 
even then I would not have any way of making sure nothing gets spilled
during the flight. At the pet store they seem to think that there is
no way to avoid a huge mess.
Any help will be appreciated.
Cheers,

Thomas

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: cosulliv@fraser.sfu.ca (Christina Marie O'Sullivan)
Subject: Book on cat intelligence?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:31:03 GMT

My mother recalls reading a book on "Cat Intelligence", a book that suggested
ways of gauging and measuring feline IQs, so to speak.  She said that cats
that come when they're called and cats that sit down to dinner are apparently
more intelligent, from what she understood of the book.  

Who wrote the book, what is the title of the book?  And what do people who
have read the book think of it?  Not to be racist or anything, but are some
breeds "smarter" than others?  Is the myth of Oriental cats being of high
intelligence just that, a myth?

Bali's mama,


Christina
cosulliv@sfu.ca

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: madhav@cs.albany.edu (MadHav Vishnu Marathe)
Subject: Re: THE BEST CAT-BOOK
Originator: madhav@watson.albany.edu
Reply-To: 11krichardso@gallua.bitnet
Organization: Computer Science Department, SUNY at Albany, Albany, NY 12222
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:12:14 GMT


   I read so far the best book about cats by Antira Fraiser "The New Natural
   Cat" (Dutton Book). There are some amazing things that I never thought of
   like how rediculous are litter scupers and why there is absolutely no need
   for them. How to feed cats and what to feed them, and so many other things
   that I did not know. I highly recomend this book to any cat owner.

I'll second this recommendation. I don't have the New Natural Cat 
but I have the original Natural Cat by Anita Frazier.  This best cat
book I've ever seen.  Good common sense cat care. I am definitely
going to try to get a hold of the new one.

Joseph Richardson
(Email to 11krichardso@gallua.bitnet)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: cosulliv@fraser.sfu.ca (Christina Marie O'Sullivan)
Subject: Re: What do cats prefer? House or Owner (owned)?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:44:00 GMT

a big "thank you" to those of you good enough to respond to my quandary.  It
seems that most of you believe the cat is better off with the owner.  If I
can get an apartment or a house that accepts cats I will most certainly take
Bali along. Otherwise I may have to leave him at a retirement community for 
therapy of the geriatric. 
not keen on the idea of Bali leaving the house, but then again in a few years
Mom and the Stepfather will be sailing on an extended holiday, and Bali has
just lost (in June) his lifelong companion Tazi, so he's a little in need of
affection.  Okay, so whom am I kidding?  He's desperately in need of affection: I have the Alex Forrest (Fatal Attraction) of cats here.  So there's no 
question of my permission to take Bali, but the question of Bali wanting to be
taken.  And now that is resolved: the next question is, where can I go that will
allow a cat?

Cheers,

Christina O'Sullivan
cosulliv@sfu.ca
From: jlevy@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (janet.s.levy)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Kitty with Cold Getting Spayed - NERVOUS!
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:25:38 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T


Over the last couple of years, I sometimes mention my kitty,
Pumpkin, who always has a cold.  She is a little tortoise
shell that was rescued from a barn as a 4 week old kitten -
her litter was dying and she was the only one to survive.
She has a non-ending upper respiratory infection.  Three vets
have said it's a virus that her immune system can't handle.
Although she has an occasional funky day when the weather is
a certain way, she is basically a normal, bright-eyed kitty
with a snotty nose.  I have never spayed her, though, because
my first vet said that her immune system would perhaps not
withstand the stress of an operation.  He scared me.

My current vet's reasoning is that she has lived to the age of
four so has withstood many invasions of germs from scratches and cuts. 
Her immune system can't be totally defunct or she'd be dead.
It makes some sense, still I have procrastinated until now - she has 
started spraying copiously when in heat.  This probably started
because of my roommate's female (spayed) cat with whom Pumpkin 
has a constant dominance standoff.  The smell and the work to
clean the carpets has finally driven me to reconsider.  Maybe
this will save her from some female problems down the road as well.

So anyway tomorrow she is finally scheduled to be spayed.  I'm
biting my nails.  I have her on antibiotics as a safety measure.
I love that little sweetie pie.  If anyone else out there has
time to say a tiny prayer for Pumpkin, we both appreciate it.
I hope in a couple of days I'll be laughing at myself for my
paranoia.

Here's hopin' and prayin',

Janet Levy
jsl@ihlpm.ATT.COM
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rivkin@watson.bms.com (Teresa Rivkin)
Subject: Re: How about kitty noises?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Bristol Myers Squibb Pharmaceutical Research Institute
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:44:00 GMT

Our female cat, Princess, makes these imitating, barking noises atthe birds on 
our bird feader that crack me up.  She seems to be imitating one type of bird 
that makes and ack,ack,ack type sound (no pun intended!).  When she really
gets going, she sounds like a machine gun!  We've even gotten to the point
where I can make her do it by asking her to talk to the birdies!

Terri Rivkin
Bristol-Myers Squibb
Princeton, NJ
rivkin@bms.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: what do cats prefer?
From: connorm@vax.sonoma.edu (Michelle Connor)
Date: 9 Sep 1992 19:11 PST  
Distribution: world
Organization: Sonoma State University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

I would think that it would be far less traumatic to let the Kitty stay...
especially since its been there for so long...

Michelle  (and Sophie, who loves new things, being a kitten; and Sparky, who
can't stand it at all)
From: STella@thelema.uucp (STella)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: SPLASH!!
Date: 11 Sep 92 08:57:32 GMT
Organization: Idiosyncratic Anarchic Order

In article <1992Sep10.165514.15450@rsg1.er.usgs.gov> ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder) writes:
>Normally I keep the toilet lids closed in case they fall in while I'm
>not around, but this time I decided to watch what would happen.

A good plan.  After all, it would be a terrible thing if a cat fell
into the toilet and no-body laughed.

Wondering if Schrodinger's Cat or Berkeley's tree have anything to do
with this....

ST*
From: sscott@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Sandie Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Diabetes in Cats Blood and Urine Samples???
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:36:17 GMT
Reply-To: sscott@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Sandie Scott)
Distribution: usa
Organization: IRM Consulting - Dayton, OH

Hi! I have never posted an article and could not locate mod.announce.newusers
in order to read up on netiquette, so forgive any blunders I might make.

rec.pets.cats has the honor of being the recipiant of my first posting,
because its membership seems so genuinely warm, and the stories are all so
cute (as are cats).

I felt compelled to write to let the people who have cats with diabetis know
of Fume's experience with this disease (Fume Blanc for wine lovers).  Fume was
diagnosed as having diabetis at the same time that the vet told me to take him
off the dry food which had too much ash in it.  (I don't know if it is proper
to use the manufacturer's name here.)  Well, for two years we gave Fume his
daily shot of insulin, which for people who have never given a cat a shot is
so easy as long as you have a sharp needle.  All you do is lift some of the
loose skin and wiggle the skin over the needle...no pain to the little one. 
It was really sad, though, when the dosage was too much to see the poor thing
start to shake all over...we then had to immediately get him to drink some
sugared water to compensate.  Now the reason, I think, that Fume was reacting
this way to the constant dosage was that he was getting over diabetes?????  We
continually reduced the dosage over the two years until we stopped giving him
insulin entirely.  Now note that over this time frame he was now eating canned
food...Kal Kan (I have no compunctions about giving a manufacturer a
compliment!)  So, do you hear what I'm implying.  Good luck to all of you who
are caring for sick cats...they're lucky to have you.


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