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From: hwong@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (Hanson Wong)
Subject: Final Fantasy and Drakkhen help needed...
Organization: Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo
Distribution: rec.games.video
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:37:47 GMT


OKay, I am very frustrated...first, FFII,  I am in the cave in the underground
world.  The cave I am talking about is the one with the dark crystal and the 
door is opened by the Luca.  I get the crystal aand when I come out, I have to
fihght the evil wall.  Only problem is that I can't kill it before it gets
close enough to 'crush' my party to death.  Is there an easy way to do it?
Or is there a way to avoid fighting him altogether?  

Second, I am stuck in the fire princes castle (it looks like a pyramid) on
Drakkhen.  I push those buttons on the wall, but none of them opens any
doors. the fields stay on. 

Thanks in advance...

Hans
PS Reply email or here if you like...
From: EDIAS@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (EMILIANO A DIAS)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: ColecoVision game copyrights
Date: 23 Jan 1993 19:41:27 GMT
Organization: UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS - AMHERST
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: phobos.ucs.umass.edu
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Since Coleco went out of business in the mid eighties, what 
happened to the copyrights or their games?  Are the games
public domain (I doubt it)?

Just wondering...				Tony Dias

Newsgroups: rec.games.video
From: galt%peruvian.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Greg Alt)
Subject: Re: Video Game copiers
Date: 28 Jan 93 11:52:18 MST
Followup-To: rec.games.video
Reply-To: galt%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu
Organization: University of Utah, CS Dept., Salt Lake City

In article <1k6urmINN47n@shelley.u.washington.edu>, jjf@byron.u.washington.edu (Matthew Martin) writes:
>There is one thing you guys are not considering...  How many people would 
>actually have bought the game???  Here is an example, and this is the same
>BS propaganda AT&T and US West gives you when calculating losses...
>
>10 people have pirated copies of a $50 game...  Company says that is a $500 
>loss...  But that ASSUMES ALL 10 people would have actually bought the game..
>When in reality usually on 1 or 2 of them would resulting in a $50-$100 loss
>and certainly not the $500 you read in BS propaganda...

Also, you are forgetting that the retail cost of the cartridge is not just
for the game code, but for the plastic case, the ROM chips, the box, the
documentation, shipping, retail markup, etc...  I would bet that if you
subtract all of that out, you end up with something around $5-$20 per 
cartridge, so in your example, instead of a $500 loss, $10-$40 would be
much more accurate.
From: eaeg160@orion.oac.uci.edu (Andy Wu)
Subject: SNES GAMES FOR TRADE/SALE
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Distribution: USA
Date: 29 Jan 93 01:04:30 GMT

I HAVE:

CONTRA III
NCAA BASKETBALL

FOR SALE OR TRADE.  MAKE BEST OFFER OR E-MAIL LIST OF GAMES FOR TRADE.

THANKS A LOT,

	ANDY
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Andy Wu                     The Three R's--REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE
eaeg160@orion.oac.uci.edu
From: tehyang@aludra.usc.edu (Teh Kao Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: ALt.games.Super vrs Rec. game...
Date: 27 Jan 1993 23:51:32 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1k7huf$hkd@agate.berkeley.edu> c60b-3ok@e260-1f.berkeley.edu (Alex Di Ricco) writes:
>OK, I guess It's time to do this before every system has it's own alt
>group and those of us with no alt access miss out on new info.
>
>In the meantime, can everybody in alt.sega.genesis please crosspost
>to this group?  Of course, anyone who only reads the alt group won't
>see this post.  (sigh)

As of now the alt.sega.genesis group seems pretty much dead. It only gets 
about 10 posts a day. I like the idea of the newsgroup, but right now it's
improperly named and has very limited availability to people. I think it's
a good idea to kill it or let it die off. I for one will try to post only
to good ole' r.g.v

-Teh Kao
tehyang@aludra.usc.edu
"........."
From: daw@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Dave Webb)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Gameboy Games available for TRADE!
Date: 25 Jan 1993 13:01:28 -0500
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu

I have the following GameBoy Games available for TRADE!

Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure
Metroid II
Castlevania
Bases Loaded
Side Pocket Pool
Blades Of Steel
Malibu Beach Volleyball
World Cup Soccer
Final Fantasy Adventure
Tennis..

Looking for:
Missile Command
Sport games

Please leave e-mail if interested!
	
		Thanx
			Dave Webb
From: outcast@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mark Mavromatis)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: Sega CD Rom
Date: 21 Jan 1993 18:50:21 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: doc.cc.utexas.edu

> 
>Well I only have one thing to say, while you are stuck with your little 8,
>possibly 16 megabit games, I will be living it up with my nice CD-Rom, not
>having to worry about "they cut so much out of this game becasue of space
>limitations".
>
>--- Maximus 2.01wb

Yea, with a $300 piece of crap that plays shit like Night Trap and Sewer
Shark. In Japan, the Sega CD flopped and Sega HAD to dump it in the U.S. market
for $300 just to sell some units. The Sega CD is not really state-of-the-art
by any means. The technology is 2 years old and the PC-Engine CD-Player is only
$150 (if you want to discuss prices). If that CD Player you were looking at
was $200, it was probably either a carousel 5-disc changer, or a portable.


Newsgroups: rec.games.video
From: jdpierc@netcom.com (Jerry D. Pierce)
Subject: SNES: Lemmings wanted
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:44:21 GMT


Anybody have a copy of Lemmings for the SNES they'd like
to sell for a reasonable price??

   Jerry D. Pierce
   jdpierc@netcom.com

Newsgroups: rec.games.video
From: h9206467@hkuxb.hku.hk (Michael Klauser)
Subject: copyright protect
Organization: The University of Hong Kong
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:55:14 GMT


Since I've been receiving many emails after I posted article 7999,
all of which are asking about the anti-protect slot, I'm going to
say more about it.

The host Nintendo in Japan swears to eradicate the "anti-copyright
motion" in the video game market of Taiwan and HK.  The current move
by the host company is to add a PAL (Programmable Array Logic) into
every game cartridges for Super FamiCom (SFC), but I'm not sure if
they do the same thing on SNES.  The host's plan is to program the
PAL into a different setting for every 10 new cartridges.

The legal "game doctors" manufacturers in HK are very quick to
response - they release a product called "anti-protect slot" which
has a programmed PAL inside.  It enables gamers to play several new
games like "Final Fantasy V (16M)" and "Ranma 1/2 II (12M)".  Also,
a manufacturer of game doctor even includes a programmed PAL and
a DSP!!  This move is very silly, because the PAL inside can't be
replaced easily.

Adding a PAL in each cartridge is not a long term measure.  Because
PAL is rather expensive, this extra burden is also imposed on the
innocent Japanese(they buy original cartridges).  I think this is the
reason why the realeasing of games suddenly "frozen" these 2 weeks -
the host company may be thinking of some other means of copyright
protection.

Now there is no shop in HK dare copying games publicly, and many of
the copying shops closed down after a raid last December.  But illegal
copying never dies down - they're now asking for a high copying price.

I don't know if PAL would be added to every SNES cart...hope that it
won't, otherwise you've to pay more for a cartridge.  This will
trouble both two classes of gamers.

                                               Michael
From: jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: SG vs. Snes
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:18:59 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: hairball.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <1993Jan26.171556.25937@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.213502.24203@crash> mdc@crash.cts.com (Milo D. Cooper)
writes:
>>	I thoguht it was obvious that the slowdown in the arcade ver-
>>sion is intentional.  It is an effect, and one practiced often in
[...]
>
>True, but in the SNES version it occasionally slows down without this 
>happening..

*Sigh*,  not again. 

Please, tell me exactly _where_ the SNES version slows down that the arcade
does not.  I've heard it over and over again on this newsgroup, and I'm
perfectly willing to concede that I might have missed some slowdown somewhere
(my experience with the arcade version isn't as extensive as it is with
the SNES).  

I've seen buzillions of "it has slowdown" commants, but nobody seems to be
able to point out exactly where it slows down.  Until someone does, I'll
take it for what it is: unsubstiantiated, and therefore suspect.

>David T. Meeks            || "New shadows tugging at the corner of his eye
>davem%uvmark@merk.com     ||  As if in nervous anticipation of another day"
-- 
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|          James Brookes            | Inet: bb252@cleveland.freenet.edu |
|``What, me worry?'' - A. E. Neuman |   jamesb@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu |
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From: camp5@csbina.csubak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: Sega CD Rom
Date: 24 Jan 93 02:40:50 GMT
 <!cl3c9+@rpi.edu> <1jrr1hINNa7a@shelley.u.washington.edu>
Organization: California State University, Bakersfield

In article <1jrr1hINNa7a@shelley.u.washington.edu>, tzs@stein.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith) writes:
> I've seen CD-ROM systems for IBM PC & clones for under $200.  There's one
> from Mitsumi that I've seen in Software Etc., and the current issue of Byte
> has one for $179 in the section where they give the short product
> descriptions of new products.  This one is particularly nice in that it has
> controls on the unit itself so that you can use it for music without having
> to control it from the computer.
> 
> Given this, I think a $200 CD-ROM for a game system would not be impossible.
> 
> --Tim Smith

	But, did these CD-ROMs contain a 12.5MHz 68000, and custom scaling/
rotation processors? ;) Remember, Sega has a lot more in there than just a 
CD mechanism. But you never know, the new revamped-looking CD is on its way...
maybe $250 or $200 isn't that far off...
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
From: zmed0b@trc.amoco.com (Michael)
Subject: MULE for Genesis?
Originator: zmed0b@zircon
Organization: Amoco Production Company, Tulsa Research
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:39:23 GMT


Someone told me a couple of months ago that there may be some effort in
progress to release M.U.L.E. for either the Sega Genesis or the IBM PC.
Has anyone heard anything else on this?  Thanks.

Mike
From: shihtape@phakt.usc.edu (Shih-ta Peng)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: SEGA CD game list
Date: 21 Jan 1993 19:17:23 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

This, according to Sega of America are games either already available now
or coming later this year from third parties:

American Laser Games:	Mad Dog McCree
			Space Pirates
			Who Shot Johnny Rock?
			Gallagher's Shooting Gallery

Arena:			Alien
			Mortal Kombat

Bignet:			Black Hole Assault

Flying Edge:		WWF WrestleMania

Gametek:		Introducing the HUMANS
			Brutal

JVC:			Monkey Island
			Heimdall
			Dungeon Master 2
			Thunderhawk
			Monkey Island 2
			Jaguar XJ220
			Wolfchild
			Wonder Dog

Renovation:		Road Avenger

Sierra On-Line:		King's Quest V
			Mixed-Up Mother Goose
			Stellar 7
			Space Quest:Roger Wilco and the Time Ripper
			The Adventures of Willy Beamish

Sony:			Make Your Own Music Video-
				C&C Music Factory
				Kris Kross
			Dracula
			Son of Chuck
			Cliffhanger
			ESPN Baseball
			ESPN Football
			Jeopardy
			Journey to the Center of the Earth
			Last Action Hero
			Wheel of Fortune
			Chuck Rock
			Hook
			Sewer Shark

Tengen:			Pit-Fighter II
			RBI Baseball 5

Virgin Games:		The Terminator
			Out of this World
	

Lots of stuff to look forward to.

Shih-ta
From: cag3@po.CWRU.Edu (Craig A. Gelfand)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: [SEGA] How to subscribe to Sega Visions
Date: 28 Jan 1993 01:39:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cag3@po.CWRU.Edu (Craig A. Gelfand)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


As promised, here is the address to send to to receive Sega Visions:

	SEGA VISIONS
	P.O. Box 5346
	Redwood City, CA 94063

For those of you that don't know, Sega Visions is a quarterly magazine
published by Sega (in cooperation with Infotainment World publications)
that is basically a big add for Sega and other companies that sell games
for Sega machines.  It usually has some articles about new games, game
ratings, game maps, and tons of adds for upcoming games.  It is free to
anyone that asks, so please get yourself on their list!

					Craig


Newsgroups: rec.games.video
From: egb43782@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Erich  )
Subject: [*] Gameboy Games for TRADE
Summary: bing
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:23:45 GMT
Keywords: blah


Anyone interested in trading for any of these games?

Solar Striker
Castlevania
Super Mario Land
Cosmotank

Send me email for more info!

--Erich
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
From: maguire@spot.Colorado.EDU (MAGUIRE WILLIAM BRUCE)
Subject: Buying experience on r.g.v.
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:06:41 GMT

I've seen a few posts discussing the risk of buying/selling on
rec.games.video, and I would like to relate my first experience.
I responded to a post from jjf@u.washington.edu (Matthew Martin)
concerning the SNES Top Gear.  I unfortunately did not keep the
original post, but he offered the game for $25 (including
Express-Mail shipping).  I replied, and he told me that he would 
send the game - the deal was sealed.  I have never heard from him 
since (even after I left a message with his roommate via a 
long-distance phone call).  I am just glad that I did not send 
him the money right away.

So, the moral is: I didn't lose anything (except expectations)
-- but be careful buying from Matt or any others who are
totally void of integrity.  I hope my future transactions are with
more responsible people.

For those who are interested, I appended my E-mail records.

						Bruce.

(sorry about the length - but now I have it off my chest!)
maguire@spot.colorado.edu

E-mail record follows:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
[From maguire Tue Jan 12 17:28:55 1993]

Matt:

    If the cartridge is in good shape, I would be willing to buy
it.  E-mail me a reply, and I can "get the check in the mail."

                        Bruce.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
[From jjf@u.washington.edu Wed Jan 13 03:11:15 1993]
                           **********

it's in perfect shape...

Matthew Martin
[address deleted]

leave me your address and I will send you the game (top gear(.,. thanks!
------------------------------------------------------------------------
[From maguire Wed Jan 13 12:37:46 1993]

OKAY!  Sounds like a deal!
My adress is:
[address deleted]
                        Bruce.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
[From maguire Fri Jan 15 16:26:56 1993]

Matthew:
    I was just wondering if you have had a chance to get the Top Gear
cart into the mail?
                        Thanks, Bruce.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

I made a long-distance phone call, and left a message with his roommate.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
[From maguire Wed Jan 20 13:07:35 1993]

Matthew:

    Is Top Gear coming?  I hope you didn't sell it to someone
else. :-)

                        Bruce.

p.s.  E-mail me back, so I know what's up...
------------------------------------------------------------------------

A final message (longer) sent today - Mon Jan 25

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From: dolson2@uwsuper.edu (DARYL L. OLSON)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: help!!!! sega might-magic I
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:09:23 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Superior, Wisconsin
NNTP-Posting-Host: 137.81.10.157

Please help me out!  I'm trying to do the lord's quest for clerics.  I have
Corak's soul and the admit 8 pass, I went in with only clerics.  What I can't
figure out is how to get past the blasted barrier in the cave.  How do I
get to Corak's body???????   HEEEEELLLLLPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!

Thanks
Dar
From: zoller@saltillo.cs.utexas.edu (Brian Zoller)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: [GENESIS] do joystick extension cables exist??
Date: 21 Jan 1993 19:25:15 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, CS dept
Distribution: world
Reply-To: $user@cs.utexas.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: saltillo.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1993Jan20.234009.7027@PacBell.COM>, tlhouns@ns.pacbell.com (Lee Hounshell) writes:
|> I need some extension cables for my Genesis system.. does anyone know
|> if they can be purchased?  Does SEGA even make them?  Or will I be forced
|> to make the cables myself?  Any info would be much appreciated.  Thanks.
|> 
|> --
|> Lee Hounshell - (510) 823-2432
|> tlhouns@srv.pacbell.com
|> Alchemical Engineer and Virtual Realist

In fact, I just got a 6-foot joystick extension cable at Babbage's.  It
has the Sega name on it, and it is about $10 (maybe less).  I think it is
a product which Sega has just recently begun selling.

-- 
Brian Zoller
zoller@cs.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Which Gameboy game to buy?
Organization: American Math. Society
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:32:01 GMT


Having perused the selection of Gameboy carts in the nearest Toys R
Us, and not wanting to spend $19 - $35 on a bad game, can anyone
recommend a good Gameboy cart to purchase?  Tetris is fun, but life
does go on after Tetris is over.

Thanks.


-Alan Harder                

 The opinions expressed above are not the opinions of the American
 Mathematical Society.  They aren't even my opinions, really, I'm just
 borrowing them.


Newsgroups: rec.games.video,alt.sega.genesis
From: don@tellabs.com (Donald Leonard)
Subject: Re: [SEGA Genesis] Controllers
Organization: Tellabs, Lisle,IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 13:54:52 GMT

In article <C1Iz59.JE0@world.std.com> pmc@world.std.com (Patrick M Chase) writes:
>
>I need a second controller. My first one came with the unit and sports a
>whole 3 feet of length. So I guess I'm buying an extension for it (I heard
>that SEGA sells them).
>
>Also want a second controller for two player cooperative games. Noticed a
>million brands with a million features. Want something regular. Price for
>the SEGA unit was quoted at $20. Some of the 3rd party controllers are $20.
>Anyone have a suggestion here?
>
>I guess a repeat button would be nice... some of those games have you hitting
>a button over-and-over-and-over as fast as you can. A 'fast' button would be
>nice. But I want something solid too! Something not too expensive....
>
>I dunno. Coments please. I'll summarize to the net.


I'm also interested in your responses - in addition I'd like to
know what joystick type controllers are best, within reason. I
don't want to spend 80.00 on a joystick. 

-- 

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From: ir_willi@csd.uwe.ac.uk (hello)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: MGH backup
Date: 21 Jan 93 11:30:25 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Does anyone know of a cheap place to buy a SMC or a MGH.
Eg from Japan or Hong Kong without going though someone on the way.
This would be of great help
Thanks 
EMAIL ir_willi@uk.ac.uwe.csd
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: SG vs. Snes
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 17:14:21 GMT
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <1k2oinINNmlq@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.051220.32305@uvmark.uucp> palmer@uvmark.uucp (Filaman)
>writes:
>>In article <30474@optima.cs.arizona.edu> maestas@cs.arizona.edu
>(Mark Maestas) writes:
>>>[SNES SFII slowdown is intentional, and coincides with arcade]
>
>>There is intentional slow down in Street Fighter II, however, there is 
>>slowdown in the SNES version that doesn't exist in the arcade game and it
>>is NOT intentional.
>
>Yeah, and all Genesis games look like you are playing them underwater.
>

Calm down James, Palmer wasn't knocking the SNES... Don't get so defensive...
He owns both and is an avid fan of both, and has one of the more unbiased
views on the systems.   But, I have to agree with him, I have seen slowdown
in the SNES version that doesn't exist in the Arcade.  I've played both 
very extensively and I am definitely talking about the original version.
As pointed out, it seems there is a lot of intentional slowdown, more for
dramatic effect than anything else.  However, on the SNES, there is occasional
slowdown in other places..  As an example..

When playing Ken vs. Ryu, on a number of occasions one person threw a 
fireball and the other did a hurricane kick.  The motion slowed down.
In another, same characters and situations, but one jumped over the
fireball instead of the h.kick, and Fierce kicked the char. who threw the
fireball, more slowdown..  I don't seem to remember this in the arcade..

The big thing is that in the arcade, even where there was slowdown, in never
seemed to affect gameplay.  I never felt as if a move was ruined because the
system slowed down and took away the element of surprise...  This occasionally
happens in SFII.  

It is still the best game out for the SNES, and is still an amazing game, but
it does have a few faults..
-- 
David T. Meeks            || "New shadows tugging at the corner of his eye
VMark Software, Inc.      ||  Jostling for attention as the sunlight flares
uvmark!davem@merk.com     ||  Through a curtains tear, shuffling its beams
davem%uvmark@merk.com     ||  As if in nervous anticipation of another day"
From: mac9167@tamsun.tamu.edu (Matt Costanza)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Y's III for sale (Genesis)
Date: 25 Jan 1993 23:52:44 -0600
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu

Well, I have finally finished Y's III.  Sor in order to fund my purchase of
another game, I need to sell this one.

Y's III in the original box with insturctions in excellent condition 
$32.00 including 1st class shipping (U.S Mail).

I have seen this game in Babbages for $67.00.  I bought my copy new mailorder
and paid $45.00 so this is a pretty good deal.

If you are intrested please e-mail me.



-- 
Matt Costanza             |  Texas A&M University   |       Amiga 2000
MAC9167@Tamsun.Tamu.Edu   |Computing Services Center|     GVP 030 40 Mhz.
Surfman@Andromeda.Tamu.Edu|  Problem & Change Mgmt  |    MSDOG Eat My Dust
                          |    Problems "R" Us      |
From: v68@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: TG CD/SCD games for sale
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:08:09 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

TG SCD for sale
1)Shapeshifter $30
2)Cosmic Fantasy II $30

Pleae add $3 for shipping.  If you buy two games together, I will pay for 
shipment.
Ken