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From:         "The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny"
              <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: John Hiatt
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>I'm just wondering if any of y'all have listened to J.H.'s
>Bring The Family album Ry Cooder and Jim keltner are on it and
>it is a very moving album. Hiatt's life right b4 that was in turmoil
>and that album reflects his trials and tribulations, outstanding album
>with a country,blues,rock blend.

Ditto. It's amazing to think that these are the same guys that put out
the IMHO lousy Little Village album last year.

-Adam
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From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Any listeners of Hendrix or Dolphy?
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              moore stevenson" at Jul 27, 92 11:10 am

ACtually, this is someone I intended to bring up:  I heard (in the
70s--belonged to someone else) an Eric Dolphy album that was immensely ... (oh
shucks, I told you I'm out of adjectives)... but later when I went out and
tried to buy something, it was kind of frenetic and I really didn't like it.  I
wish someone would tell me the name of a great late 60s/early 70s soulful
Dolphy album.
About Hendrix... unfortunately I think most of the writing on him is kind of
disappointing (who am I to say having just browsed through the books in
bookstores--none of them ever looked worth buying)... I wish I knew more, but
truthfully, I think Hendrix is one of those on this order: (maybe I have this
anecdote wrong, but I'll try....) Somebody asked Beethoven (?) what a sonata
meant and in reply he played it again.  (maybe it wasn't BEethoven...)  Anyway,
I think Hendrix is just beyond our usual foolish ravings of "great, wow,
awesome, groovy"--  Well, here's an example of a tribute to Hendrix, which
someone told me and I think it was not just a myth, it really happened: in the
midst of some madness of Vietnam, a black soldier pulled out his boombox and
set Machine Gun playing at top volume...
Hendrix is the only musician whom I have deliberately set out to get every
video ever made of him, because I love to watch him as well as listen.  It's
fascinating to compare his presence and his music over the last few years of
his life...in the space of less than a year he moved from someone--always
[fabulous, etc.], but somehow even a little timid, rather, shy (during the
crazy showy teeth-playing days) (I guess I mean very aware of himself up there)
to someone... utterly absorbed in the music, with a life-or-death intensity; I
always felt in Hendrix someone LISTENING to the "music of the spheres" and
translating it for us mere mortals.
I don't know what's got into me today; next I will comment on the Four Seasons
(not Vivaldi).
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: I know a hawk from a handsaw
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 23:47:50 GMT

In article <ALLMUSIC%92072415193780@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> "Michael H. Bloom" <MHB@MITVMA.BITNET> writes:
>Lord help us... Jon Anderson's new age blather would be utterly intolerable
>without his airy singing. Pat Metheny's tone is way too prissy to stand up to
>a hiphop beat. What would be more interesting would be genuine rappers trying
>to cope with all those progressive rock rhythm grooves in odd time signatures!

Not so fast there.  Metheny didn't have any problem standing up to the
Harmolodic sounds and swirling beats of Ornette Coleman, and sent many of his 
fans crying home to their mothers...

Jeff
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From:         "David M. Geoghegan" <imagesys!dmg@UU.PSI.COM>
Subject: Re: post-smasheroo Dylan
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	My opinion:

	Hiway 61 and Blood on the tracks are my favorite two Dylan albums.

	I think almost dying has got to put a new perspective on things and since music
 comes from your soul it probably puts astamp on it.
				Dave`
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From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Losing My Religion
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>I don't even know who that Stipe fellow is, so i won't comment on him,
>but some artists i really liked in earlier years have jumped on whatever
>cause seems to be popular and their music has suffered to me.

Stipe is the singer from REM.  They had a recent hit called Losing My
Religion.

Name some of those artists you are referring to.

Russ
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:00:17 -0500
From:         UMLEHNER@ECNUXA.BITNET
Subject:      Ya boneheads!

   Frank Zappa isn't dead. Nice going. He is alive and well.

   Again, we are being fed wrong informations.



                                       - Drummer -
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 10:25:53 CET
From:         Sebastian Welton <SWELTON@ESOC.BITNET>
Subject:      Rap, is it crap?

Well I would have written a little rap ditty but I don't have any knowledge
about Uzi's, I don't like to talk about myself all the time and I think
it's not very nice calling women bitches or hussies. Still, not all rap
is bad (in my record collection I have a few including the original
33 minute long Sugarhill Rap and Gary Byrd, but this seems a more sensible
type of rapping than the stuff nowadays), listen to some of the more
mellow stuff (jazz rap f'r instance) but groups such as The Dream Warriors
(Canadians I believe), Arrested Development and Disposable Hereos Of
Hiphoprisy of which some of their stuff does have a tune and meaning and,
I think you'll find you jig about a bit to it.

Seb

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From:         "In a world gone crazy...." <QUINTAINE@TKM.BRANDONU.CA>
Subject:      Re: Losing My Religion
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 > Somewhere in the middle we have Amy Grant who seems to have found
 > religion and lost it again without any perceptible impact on her
 > music (following The ALLMUSIC Rule, she was either always good, or
 > she never was any damn good -- pick one).

Well, to me, it seems that she really never "lost" it.  She just chose
not to sing directly about it.  Her music is still very positive and
uplifting, even though, with the exception of "Ask Me", I believe, there
is no reference to religious icons, and the like.  Even though someone
may believe in a religion doesn't mean that they have to preach it.

This is the way it looks to me.


Corey -- Quintaine@tkm.BrandonU.Ca
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:07:39 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Hendrix tune
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              "Christopher Harry" at Jul 27, 92 1:02 pm

You're right--there just wasn't a bad one.  I can't choose only one favorite,
but for
what immediately comes to mind that I couldn't live without: Machine Gun, Who
Knows and Red House.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:32:00 EDT
From:         JBRIN@WNEC.BITNET
Subject:      SYMPHONIC MUSIC

     Is there anyone out there interested in symphonic music from 1750-
1950?  I'm concerned about orchestras---performers and listeners.  The
classics are in tough shape around here.  The Hartford Symphony had to
cancel its season last year and that may happen again.  Are there similar
troubles in other parts of the country?

                                       JBRIN
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 09:33:00 CDT
From:         CV01@SWTEXAS.BITNET
Subject:      The eagle flies on Friday

>Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:45:29 GMT
>From:         Jeff Beer <ujwb@UXA.ECN.BGU.EDU>
>Subject:      Re: Thursday's oh so sad
>
>
> [_The Coltrane Legacy_]
>
>I have it.  Considering that you cannot see Trane live anymore, it is a
>good deal.  The quality is decent enough, there are at least two
>different sessions.
>
>Cop it!

   Yes sir!!  Immediately, sir!!  :*)


>Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:06:34 EDT
>From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
>Subject:      re: Losing My Religion
>
>
>(since my limited musical interests may be quite obvious, I'm open to
anyone's
>suggestions of stuff I've GOT to listen to, but I'm don't think I'm ready
for
>Sonny Sharrock)

   Sure you are Sonia -- you just don't know it yet.  :*)  Tell you what --
if you can find _Faith Moves_ where you are, buy it.  If you don't like it,
I'll buy it from you.  I know a couple of folks on the list who'd probably
be happy to pick it up.
   Either that, or I'll make you a sampler tape of his stuff.  (Which you
will destroy immediately after listening to, since we know that taping is
illegal, and we wouldn't advocate doing that sort of thing.  :*)
   Contact me at cv01@swtexas.bitnet if you're interested.


   So how do y'all like my newest creation for Allmusic?  I decided that we
didn't have enough excitement on the net, so I transformed some poor
innocent person's posts into those ridiculous things you've been reading
from Mr. Achy Breaky Boon-Docky.  I think of it as kind of like a Ruxpin
with a southern drawl -- a "Ruxpone" if you will ...

   (Either that, or it's really "n.n." trying to get cheap pub for his
buddy Billy Jim Boy Red-Necky.  ;*)


      bye,
      cmv ("Allmusic Netiquette Monitor -- 'n don' yew forgit it!!")
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:11:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      Guns & Roses on the TV news

The Metallica/Guns & Roses tour hit Michigan earlier this week, and there
was a story about the show on last night's local news.  Seems there was
an hour and a half delay between the bands.  [Ninety minutes?  Who does
Axl think he is?  Sly Stone? 8-)]  The concert was at the Silverdome,
which has its own TV system.  So to fill time during the break, the
cameras roamed the crowd encouraging women to bare their breasts for
display on the big screens.  Quite a few women were happy to oblige.
Seems the night before both bands had visited a topless club and were
lavish in handing out free tickets.  Security people for the concert
were quoted as approving of the goings on as it kept the crowd distracted
from the long wait.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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From:         "The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny"
              <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Ya boneheads!
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Drummer sez, in reply to Phillipe's announcement:
>   Frank Zappa isn't dead. Nice going. He is alive and well.
>
>   Again, we are being fed wrong informations.

Phew! I figured as much when WBCN played "Dynamo Hum" last nite and there
was no mention of it.

-Adam (Who's still gonna write-in Frank for prez)
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:04:10 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      other groups

does anyone know of other groups that deal with blues or guitar i could
subscribe to. If there isn't there ought to be.
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:39:00 EST
From:         "The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny"
              <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: vocalizer
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Mike MM says:
>A vocalizer or vocoder is a complex signal processor requiring two
>sound inputs.

>For example, let's use a human voice and a piano for the two sounds.
>the human voice is sent through a signal splitter, which sends the
>voice to 15 to 30 locations, each having a bandpass filter.
>Each bandpass filter takes care of a specific band in the audio spectrum
>(e.g., filter 1:  20 hertz - 50 hertz,
>              2:  50 Hz - 100 Hz,
>              3:  100 Hz - 200 Hz,
>              4:  200 Hz - 500 Hz, etc., up to 20,000 Hz.
etc......

How about an easier explanation. It's that doohickey you hear at the
beginning of Aerosmith's "Sweet Emotion" and Peter Frampton's "Do you Feel
Like I Do." It makes the singer/talker sound like a space duck.

-Adam (Ask Dr. Stupid)

P.S. It's been a long day... 8|
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:31:42 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: your mail
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              Copeland" at Jul 30, 92 5:20 pm

> getting 100 messages a day. Something is screwy. I have tried sending a
> message to the list manager. No response. So this is a last ditch effort.
> HOW DO I GET OUT OF HERE????
>                             -Thanx, Jon
> i
>
This is called No Exit.  You must have done something real bad in your previous
life.
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 12:51:05 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: crazy thought
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              "Leonard Watkins" at Jul 27, 92 10:42 am

>
> after thinking about it i believe we shouldn't  pick a dog , but a
> SRV or Miles someone deserving and push it on the charts. Question
> if this did happen would the radio stations play it since it is a
> Top Forty tune ?
>

Funny but I had read your first post so fast I thought you DID mean something
good--that's why I meant it was a great idea--to put something deserving but
ignored out there.  There are so many great local musicians, often lots better
than the frizz-heads on the labels, who never get a chance, that it makes me
very cynical.
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:32:00 PDT
From:         alva moore stevenson <ECZ5AMS@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Bob Marley movie

Has anyone seen "Time Will Tell" the recently-released movie on Bob Marley?
If you did--I'd like to know what you thought of it.

Alva Moore Stevenson
ecz5ams@mvs.oac.ucla.edu
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From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Any listeners of Hendrix or Dolphy?
              27 Jul 1992 15:03:29 EDT from <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

very good description (again)
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:00:38 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      re: Dylan

Did you write that yourself..naw you had help
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: rap
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:55:00 GMT

Violence?  If you have a rap concert in which members from several rival
gangs attend, when they run into each other, there will be problems.

As for rap itself, I find that in terms of the texts, it can be very
inventive and entertaining, for instance, the jail rap in House Party
was hilarious.  From the point of view of the performance of the text, it
can be energetic rhythmically.  It can also be nothing.  But in my
viewpoint, that is where its grits and gravy lies.

I have the most problems with the background.  It seems to be a step back
from funk and hiphop and gogo beats.  If they could get musicians on the
level of a Trouble Funk, they would have something.  There may be some
rap groups that take advantage of this, but I seldom hear anything but
stiff drum machines.

The other sounds, they sound like loops of sampled stuff.  or someone
running a scratch.  I seldom hear much happening in this, even from the
big names like Public Enemy, although a few weeks ago I heard something
by them that sounded better.

Still, sometimes this can all be combined to form an incredible groove. 
Rap will evolve, hopefully they can keep its best elements and change
the dead weight.   It seems too much of it is created by production, it
needs to be created more by performance.  With real musicians.

The last Miles album has some rap.  The raps are mostly dull tributes to 
Miles, but there are some killer grooves, and Miles was nailing it.  
I wonder if Miles would have lived longer, what he would have done with rap.
He certainly had a form which had a lot of room for development.  What
if he could have taken it to the sophistication of On The Corner?
Could he have found the players to do it?

Jeff
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:09:28 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
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              "Leonard Watkins" at Jul 27, 92 12:22 pm

>
> I'm ashamed to admit it but i had the cd also had damn right...etc
> i traded them, that was before i saw him of course. I'm into roots
> music and harp playing but i must not have gave that one a
> chance because i've heard nothing but stellar reveiws so i screwed-up
> up again i guess i have to re-purchase them. I've been keeping my
> local record store in business anyway so why stop now.
>
I've been wondering since my last post exactly why it is that Buddy just never
wows the pants off you on recordings the way he does when he's live... Some
artists, like Hooker (of course, all live recordings are best anyway, in my
view), sounds great in studio stuff also... Well, one thing comes to mind,
remembering the times I've seen Buddy Guy live (three...each was fantastic), is
that he kind of cools out... he'll just hang in there grinning his mystery grin
at you and just plunk one stunning note, just "fool around"... and then
suddenly there's a lightning flash that breaks loose and is gone before you
know it hit... he really plays with the crowd and with what he can do... he
"throws it away" (which is my favorite kind of virtuoso playing... that's also
what Gallagher does), but in the studio he seems to be more "strutting his
stuff" and that crazy on/off rhythm that comes from fooling with the
audience gets lost...it's TOO intense (in the studio), too much to absorb...
... Here I go on my
soapbox again, but that is one of the most interesting and powerful things
about Black music, the way it works the call-and-response thing; when
over-production kills that, it's a big loss... you know, the live human element
that "we're all in this together" (Western civ has all us plebes as nice little
obedient spectators sitting with our hands folded--African and Afro-American
music brought music "home" where you are part of making it happen--Amen)
Gotta ask, what did you trade those CDs for anyway?
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Subject: Re: Country Music
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 04:17:37 GMT


In a previous article, AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU () says:

>Jeff

>I would like to know how long has it been since you seen Billy Rae Cyrus and
>do you know his mailing address and concert schedules?

  I think the last time I saw Billy Ray was back in 1990. I won't say 
why we'd run into each other, 'cause I hear that the tabloids have been
all over the Ashland area trying to dig up dirt on him, and I don't
want 'em hovering around Morehead. I'd say writing to his label would
get you some info (or at least get you on some mailing list badgering
you for fan club money). You might check to see if his management is
listed in the credits of his album somewhere -- they'd probably be 
quicker to respond.

  Jeff ("n.n.")

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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:07:17 EDT
From:         Robert Kaplan <ST802174@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Any listeners of Hendrix or Dolphy?

I've recently tried to get into Eric Dolphy.  I picked up an album called
"Far Cry"--E. Dolphy and Booker Little (who??).  Also I've heard him on
Oliver Nelson's Blues & the Abstract Truth.  Pretty far out stuff, a little
tough to follow at first.  The former "Far Cry" has a few standards--Tenderly,
It's Magic, I think one other--that Dolphy does some interesting things with.
The remainder of the album is also interesting.  Very Bird-influenced
compositions (written, I believe, by Dolphy's pianist & ED himself), but the
Birdishness is more in the be-boppy rhythms than the changes and lines.  You
hear lots of chord changes that sound strange at first, and then with a few
more listens become really exciting.  What also keeps this album interesting
is that Dolphy alternates between tenor sax, bass (or baritone?) clarinet, and
flute.  You don't hear too many players on that many different instruments.
Anyway, I don't know where "Far Cry" fits into the broad scheme of Dolphy's
career, but it's a good album.

In addition, there appears to be a new film about Dolphy called "Last Date" (or
something like that).  I haven't seen it-just read a blurb in the NYT.  He
died on stage, so that has something to do with the title of the film ,although
 I'm not quite sure what that means.

So that about sums up the three things I know about Dolphy.
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