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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:35:20 EST
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Identification etc
              13 Dec 1992 00:11:46 GMT from <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>

>All right, trivia buffs: what's the name for the convention that
>the old Greeks and Romans had that statues shoul always have
>abnormally small <Sinclair>s?  I heard it once and was surprised
>that it was deliberate art - I thought those old guys were built
>like that!

  I have never heard of the word or the convention, and I ask you,
  please, not to shatter all comforting illusions.

  brad
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Date:         Sun, 20 Dec 1992 04:08:08 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: My Top 10

>>>setting discriptions.  I would like to know what standard W-L usage
>>>is I don't look like a stupid newbie. =:-)
>    ^so
>
>>I find that last sentence internally inconsistent.

I find it inconsistent not because of a missing "so" but because of what
it seems to mean.

tushar
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Goofing off Saturday
Date: 20 Dec 1992 21:51:14 GMT
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In a previous article, "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 " (815) says:

>: Or just goofing around , and I didn't see this thing until 13:20 Saturday.:-(
>: Looks like the Usenet feed is goofing off too....
>
>I too was goofing off Saturday ... rode the South Shore Line from
>Chicago to South Bend and back, and did almost all of my Christmas
>shopping down in the Loop (made a list, checked it twice, I've been
>naughty, everybody's been nice, burma shave)
>
Stevie's Visa bill is coming to town!  THey see you when you're sleeping, they
know when you're awake [they bugged your alarm clock] , they know if your
credit rating's bad or good, so pay it off for goodness sake.....  Oh......

Did you ask Santa for anything good this year?


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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 14:54:43 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Common law
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Subj:   RE: Common law

> Peter, I'm pleased to weigh in with you on this topic, but these words of
> public praise naturally arouse suspicion among the naturally suspicious.
> Are you quite certain you aren't a Tusharesque chimera set on entrapping me
> into some kind of foreign entanglement??
>
> Marty

Haven't paid too much attention to the tushar papers; the traffic has just
been too heavy -- so I don't get the reference there. I am in fact a
Professor of English who has, after 30 years in the trade developed some
ability to see when a mind is connected to a mouth, and when it is not.
I always find the connection refreshing when I happen upon it, and so
I give it full credit. To find an ease of clarity in the style makes it
doubly refreshing. So there are no hidden twists here, but I am, I fear,
exceeding my quota of Canadian reserve (which heaps great disapprobation
on too much public positiveness). Most Canadians would probably just
say, "Gee, that's nice, eh?" I can also see from my own writing style
that I've been marking too many student essays.
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:31:25 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Inexcusable favouritism by Carolyn
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On Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:35:11 +1000, LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU wrote:
> Do I really? That's the first time I've ever been accused of that. I've always
> excelled at 'male-type' things but never been much good at those things women
> are traditionally supposed to be good at.

Yeah?  Bet you can't pee over the wall!

G
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From: kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey)
Subject: Re: I think we're alone now....
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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:26:16 GMT

maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu (Natalie Maynor) writes:

>Take what as a compliment?
>--
>   Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

This:

>>So far, the gang here tonight doesn't look exactly like outsiders, though...

--Aaron

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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 08:20:48 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Now for something completely anal-retentiv
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> memories ... but did give me a good work ethnic ...my dad worked very hard ..
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Were it not for the fact that you grew up in Maine, somebody might accuse
your family of perpetuating slavery.  ;-)

Seriously, somebody or something did give you a gift more important IMHO
than work ethic:  a good heart -- and I'm not speaking physically now, altho
I trust that your physical heart is also good.

Logging off again before getting the snide responses from the list grinches.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:28:53 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Common law
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> Marty (bowing, scraping)
>
Sock it to him, Marty!

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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:34:17 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 2 toasts
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On Wed, 16 Dec 1992, Graham Toal wrote:

> Take note people.  This is the price you pay for getting tied into Macintosh.

Oooh, GT, Macintosh can <tie me> into itself any day! And besides, I just
got the pkg and it includes a copy of Microphone II as well as the fax
software. Such value!

-abh
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:31:35 EST
From:         Brad Baxter <BBAXTER@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: 2 toasts

On Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:07:00 +0100 <torkel@SICS.SE> said:
>  >To edit a file, pick up the editor name
>  >and drop it on the file name.
>
>  Is this some kind of MS Windows thing?

That it is.  Since Windows does not come with an editor, this was
the suggested way of using your own editor from the Windows file
manager.  I must warn you that my experience with Windows is faint
to invisible...my skin crawls when I get close to a screen full of
teeny tiny cute little furry cuddly icons.  By the way, I looked up
"icon" in my paperback Websters.  It falls between "icky", my
opinion of them, and "iconoclast", "one who attacks venerated
institutions or ideas"--like literacy.

* Alt-Brad *
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:31:00 CST
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
 <TA0SHK1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      chess books

Greetings,

Marty, do post a full reference to _Test Your Chess IQ_.  It sounds
like an improvement on _Rate Your Own Chess_ by F. Donald Bloss,
which is a collection of mates in two and mates in three, that gives
the player a false sense of accomplishment, I think (grade inflation,
perhaps?)

Marty's experience ("I have perceived a noticeable increase <redundancy?>
in my ability to recognize positions that might contain a combination
and to locate and debug the threads quickly.") squares with a
suggestion Alexander Kotov makes in _Think like a Grandmaster_: work
all the game problems in newspaper chess columns.  Kotov writes,
"Every player who spends some time on such methods will soon notice an
increase in his (sic) playing strength."

Until recently, I haven't looked at any books.  Once the Center
Game got out of main lines at move 4, there hasn't been much reason
to.  After we get an outcome, I'll let you all in on what I've been
looking at recently.

Exams are done, and I will be catching up with some items I promised
to respond to earlier in the semester.  But that will have to wait
until the chilled water is fixed.

Steve Karlson

Spajkoinoj nochi
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: PSILink?
Date: 11 Dec 1992 21:18:51 GMT
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In a previous article, ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM () says:

>Somebody stop me if they think I'm about to spend money very
>foolishly....
>
>I'm planning to purchase PSILink service for mail, telnet, ftp,
>usenet.  This is to get me freedom from being tied to the apron
>strings of American Trite & Tendentious.  The price ($29.00 a month
>for a 2400 baud dialup) seems more than reasonable.  What am I
>missing?  What about these Class A dialup charges (no connect time)
>versus Class B charges (2.50/hr offhours, 6.00 8AM-8PM)?  What am I
>stepping into?

A morass - a puddle of odiferous gunk that the most nose-dead pig
[bandwidth and otherwise] would gag at.  PSInet has been known to pull
the rug out from under its users before now.  Maybe they'll treat people
who pay $$s a bit better, but maybe not.  It'll be worth it if you get
unlimited connect time, plus unlimited mail priviledges, and the bit.listserv
groups.  Otherwise, just telnet off your Deathstar pig iron out to your
Freenet account.:-)  That's free, and telnet goes at 9600.

Stop now!  Before they decide to up the price in the next two months!

There, will that do?:-)

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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:12:40 -0700
From:         JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS
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Subject:      Re: JMW

"Sleepytime Tea"?  Screw THAT!  We're up for a tub of hot pitch, and I'm
furnishing the pillows!!!   :->                                      ^^^
(BTW, our liberry sysop was on our campus today, and he admitted that the
backhoe, while it did do what was reported, was gleefully seized upon by
a desperate of group of frantic noncomps eager for *any* excuse...)
Ghopod alone knows what the problem de jour is...

John "It's "the problem of the day, Sir!" W.
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Date: 14 Dec 92 12:07:13 GMT
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From LISTSERV at UGA: * Note: LISTSERV@UGA has been placed offline because
From LISTSERV at UGA: * there  are too  many files  in the  UGA spool;  no
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:39:23 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Now for something completely anal-retentiv
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        >        My opinion of academia fell several more notches when I read
        >that.

        What are you talking about?  I even went back through usenet and
        couldn't find the original subject line.

Rita and bwp are still lurking preparation-h... that's where the original
posting came from.

G
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From: rohwerwd@netcom.com (Mr. Tickle Monster)
Subject: Re: Goodbye
Organization: The Tickle Palace - Moonyvale, CA
Distribution: aus
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 10:11:50 GMT

In article <WORDS-L%92120416265652@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078" <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu> writes:
>At least for the weekend...Dawn, and another 15 year-old girlfriend, just
>showed up ....seems I volunteered to take them to the mall shopping ...
>can't be any worse than WORDS-L.......
>
>
>PS.  Just reread this ...that's Dawn's girlfiend, not mine...my girlfriend
>     is a little older.
>
>                            Peace,
>                                  Don

     Have fun mall shopping.

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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Deep beliefs
Date: 21 Dec 1992 04:35:56 GMT
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In a previous article, torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen) says:

>  >What I'd like
>  >to know in all of this is whether a discussion about respecting deep beliefs
>  >can be carried on without its escalating into a flamewar.
>
>  There wasn't anything to flame about. The questions raised were perfectly
>compatible with the premiss that whatever beliefs you care to name are
>holy and inviolable.

But, are they?  If someone else holds beliefs that are different by 180
degrees?  There may not be anything to flame about, but that's never stopped
anyone before.:-(  When people start giving concrete examples, it's time for
all good noncombatants to duck and cover.  I just saw something similar to
this go up in smoke [complete with fire] on another list.  I can go with the
abstract, I think, but the idea is just alien enough that it needs a bit of
thrashing around.  For instance, what happens when one person holds a "deep
belief" that only "his" or "her" beliefs are correct?

>  Again, beliefs are not at issue. In the case of the thinking machines,
>no convictions held by anybody concerning the possibility or impossibility
>of thinking machines were being put in question. Your remarks again

Ahhh - I wasn't here for that one at all.   As a consequence, I'm clueless
about what happened back then.:-) [others would say I'm clueless about lots
of stuff, me included.  <waves to Graham>]

>demonstrate how alien questions about what, if anything, we mean when
>we speak are to many people's thinking.
>
It's almost as bad as pushing through cosmological physics [popular nonfiction
book or not] after not studying anything much past Isaac Newton, and that
back in high school.:-)  It's doable, but it takes a bit of skull sweat.
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UUCP request att!D.att8b7e754 to mhwpa!D.att8b7e754
failed on system 'mhwpa'.
Reason for failure:
        remote system can't create temp file
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:27:23 -0500
From:         Agnes Kruchio <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Re: Another Viewpoint
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              92 8:04 am

>
> Agnes, maybe you would have to see the brochure on the software .... I
> didn't do it justice.  I can't image making paper designs like you could
> make with the PC - writing, mirror images, all converted to instructions
It sounds wonderful, alright, as far as the graphic/design
capabilities are concerned...I just meant that that unless the damn
machine actually sews the final product, it's too much $$$$... (so
speaks someone who often gets into sewing projects only to find that
the drive to perfection is only driving her crazy and that she could
have bought the item for a fairly reasonable price - often for less
$$ than the proposed project...) I guess it's time to have a garage
sale of all my fabrics: unless Santa gives me the wondermachine, (and
he's <already> given me a computer upgrade, which cost enough) I will
never do anything with them...
A
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:49:11 EST
From:         Brad Baxter <BBAXTER@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Identification etc

>As for ID, I'd have to check the Arizona Revised Statues, but I seem to recall
>John "E-merjency, e-merjency!  Everybody to get frum strit!" W.

    Digression:  Two young women are standing in front of a male nude
    marble statue.  One says to the other, "But it doesn't look real.
    Real ones are much bigger, and they stick straight out."
         -Playboy (I think.)

* Alt-Brad *
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Evelyn's turn to pick a topic
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        The 'Blue Ensign' is the Australian Flag.

No it isn't!  It's a Brtish Navy flag that *looks* like the Australian flag.
Doesn't the Ozzie flag have stars on it?  The Blue Ensign doesn't, I'm
fairly sure.

G
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Getting older
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>  Possible differences:  (I have walked on beaches of fine sand, but maybe
>                          not as fine as yours.)
>
>  1. The snow stays compacted once it is stomped.
>  2. You would probably not be barefoot in the snow, whereas you
>     more likely would be in the sand.  On bare feet, of quartz,
>     the snow would be *cold* and wet.
>
>* Alt-Brad *

That's "not very much different", isn't it?

Carolyn
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From:         JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS
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Subject:      Re: Assisting the police in their inquiries

>However, knowing your big mouth you probably deserve all you get :-)

>G
        Droll, Toal, very droll.  No, it was NOT about my postmaster,
may he contract a vile disease.  (Hey, I"m used to being eavesdropped
upon.  Our former sysop used to do it all the time, and I hope what she
heard made her ears burn.  I (we) learned to use 'code names' at an
early age...)  BTW, I have plans for she who 'leaked' the note...it will
not happen again.
In fact, it was so picayune that I am almost ashamed to relate it.  My sin?
I was asked to comment upon the policies of a neighboring institution that
borrows from us but will not lend, and then posted on a net that we
"inundate them".  My opinion, for which I was ASKED, was, "it sucks rocks."
For THAT I'm having my integrity and professionalism called into question.
For THAT I'm about that far ->||<- from spending money I do not have to teach
some wedgeass what the expression "stick your tit in the wringer" means.
This was not broadcast, nor posted to the net as the offending institution did.
This was a limited (22) dislist, which for the last 5 years has maintained
integrity.  This is an entirely baseless personal vendetta initiated by
someone who does not know me very well waiting for just such an opportunity.
I'm so pleased you find it amusing.  If I can raise the fare may I live off
your largess?  My boss bailed out yesterday, so I'm on my own, and need
a protector...
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:01:43 PST
From:         "Elwood P. Dowd" <ELWOOD%UCSBVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Trivial Pursuit

On Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:02:12 CST Frank Peters said:
>: >Of *course* I want to give clues:
>: >  1. Albert Brooks
>: >  2. Meryl Streep
>:    3. Rip Torn
>:    4. Defending Your Life
>:    5. How am I doing?
>        BURMA SHAVE
>
>Somehow it doesn't scan.

Gentle Frank,
   Well of *course* it doesn't.  The above postings were written in
Trivial Pursuit Clue Format.  The BURMA SHAVE format is:
     Albert's Mortal Life
          Is Ending
       Rip Torn Thinks
     It's Worth Defending
         BURMA SHAVE

  *sheesh*

Peace,
Elwood P.
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From:         ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM
Subject:      Seasonal comfort and joy
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Hello all, this is the List Honey broadcasting live from the shores of
lovely Lake Pancanak in Wayne, NJ.  I am ensconsed in the living area
of Ken's home, and am merrily tip-tapping away to bring you this
report.

As for sinks and plungers, I have seen one sink, the one in the
kitchen, but no plungers (or plumbers, for that matter).

As for seasonal comfort and joy:  HAH!  I SAY!  HAH!.  There.  I've
said it.  Merry Holidays to all and a hearty ho ho ho and all that
blather.  I'm still looking for mail from list people in my mbox at
work, but still have not gotten much since I started working. (hint,
hint)

Anyhow, I should go.  Hasta la pasta.

--Adam/List Honey

p.s.  and for those of yu who complain about bouncing mailers when
trying to send mail to me, I reject your feeble excuses.  Ken was able
to get mail to me just fine.  So, pbbbbth.  (anne, this means YOU)
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From:         ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: Identification etc
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Posted on 12 Dec 1992 at 03:58:19 by torkel@SICS.SE
> >But Karen (I think) said that foreigners were required
> >to carry their ID, which is de facto the same thing.
>  How can it be, if the Japanese normally don't carry any ID?

Easily, Torkel.  Foreigners were also required to be fingerprinted
until recently, and you can bet that this wasn't required of
Japanese nationals.

One of the people I know who was stopped and hassled for his alien
registration was a sansei, which I found amusing.  He is genetically
Japanese, but somehow they knew to ask for his alien registration.

Karen
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