From: ccav38@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("I.Ballouz")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: Hoss outstanding (was Re: Lebanon corporation?)
Date: 6 Nov 92 09:14:58 GMT
Organization: University of Strathclyde

In article <1992Nov6.000127.7580@njitgw.njit.edu> elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.171942.4804@ccsun.strath.ac.uk>, ccav38@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("I.Ballouz") writes:
>|> In article <1992Nov5.151833.29706@njitgw.njit.edu> elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad) writes:
>|> >ccav38@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("I.Ballouz") writes:
>
>We've had already 3 failing prime ministers. Karami, Hoss, Solh.
>I guess Hariri would soon join the collection. But time will tell.

Not really, we had three-four failing presidents. But I agree with
you those men (Karami, Hoss, Solh) have failed. They have failed to CORRECT 
incompetent presidents!

>
>Give me a break here.
>Reality check:
>      President: Elias Hrawi
>      Speaker of the house: Nabih Berri
>      Minister of Village affairs: Suleiman Tony Franjieh
>      Minister of the Handicapped: Elie Hobeika
>      Minister of Refugee affairs: Walid Joumblatt
>(correct me if i am wrong, and add a few other s
>These very competent and full of integrity men reflect very
>positively on Hariri. :-) 
>Hariri does get credit where credit is due, like getting rid of Sami
>Khatib as interior minister. (That guy is probably planning something now :-))
>
Is it Hariri's fault that Berri, Hobeika, Joumblatt, Franjieh were elected and
chosen by their own people (by great majority in some cases) to represent their
sects?

Is there anybody within the shia community who is more prominent than Berri?
Is there anybody within the Druze community who is more prominent than 
joumblatt?

If it is Democracy is what you want, are you telling me that the PM should have
ignored these communities and their leadres? This is the hypocracy I was 
talking about in other posts, you pretend to love democracy, you pretend to
love freedom and the will of the people and then when it comes to something
you don't like, you begin a back-stabbing campaign. 

Regarding the credit you are planning to give him, please don't prepare 
yourself for that. He will never do what you want! He will never kill people
in the streets, he will never shell civilians with phosphoric bombs, he will
never empty the central bank to get arms to crush his own people.
Yes, there is nothing he needs you can offer. He does not need hatred, 
resentment, cynicism, sarcasm, bitterness, betrayal and above all BLOOD LETTING.


>|> It has always been in your hands,  and it has always been the case
>|> that Presidents decide and chose the PMs, should not be asking the question
>|> "did we ever had good presidents to chose good PM"?
>
>Can you define what you mean by "it has always been in your hands" ?
>I do not follow you. Please expand on that, maybe we'll all have a good laugh.
>
Are not having enough laugh already? I mean after your enormous success in 
crushing our people, our economy, destroying the homes, making a 1/3rd of the 
population refugees...after you had stolen the laugh from the good people of
our country, you must have been having for ages now.
There is nothing I can possibly say so you can have a better laugh!


>Elie.


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