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From: amadeus@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: ... on Miss Manners (cough)
Date: 13 Sep 92 16:57:59 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at Austin


I adore Miss Manners.  I have all three of her books (you should read
_Miss Manners' Guide to Rearing Perfect Children_ even if you don't
have any) and refer to them constantly, both as a reference and a
source of humor.  

Have you read any of Judith Martin's other books?  She has two novels,
_Gilbert_ and _Style and Substance_, and a collection of essays called
_The Name on the White House Floor_.  They're all good.

(The title of the last one refers to the fact that Ms. Martin, in her
days as a Washington journalist, was banned from Tricia Nixon's
wedding after having crashed the wedding of Nixon's older daughter
Julie.  What a start for our Miss Manners...)

-- 
-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------
"Queens never make bargains."  -- The Red Queen, _Through the Looking Glass_
-----amadeus@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu--------------The University of Texas @Austin---
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From: rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu (Roger Squires)
Subject: Re:  Books on Disc!
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 07:50:06 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <l4xnm7b@lynx.unm.edu> rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu (Roger Squires) writes:
>
>	....  Also, consider:  An increasingly large
>	proportion of the population finds it difficult to read
>	small print texts.  With a good paper white LCD display,
>	the user could choose any size font in any typeface she
>	desired, with zero eye strain.  There is no need to
>	limit ourselves to plain jane ascii on a green screen.
>
	I wanted to add here an example:  I. F. Stone,
	in the credits to _The Trial of Socrates_, thanks Apple
	for the super-large type available on the Mac, which 
	he credits with helping him finish the book.  He had
	some major eye trouble apparently.

Roger Squires
rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu
From: ncramer@bbn.com (Nichael Cramer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Movie based on "The Aspern Papers"? Yes!
Keywords: yes
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:19:05 GMT
Reply-To: ncramer@labs-n.bbn.com (Nichael Cramer)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Interzone Office
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

jpl@lyra.Stanford.EDU (Jonathan Lavigne) writes:
>>dcox@relay.nswc.navy.mil (David Cox) writes:
>>>  [Movie of  "The Aspern Papers." ?]
> Berovici, Leonardo. "The lost moment" : screenplay / by Leonardo Berovici
> ; from the novel "The Aspern papers" by Henry James.

I recall reading, a couple years back, a review in the NYTimes of a newish
opera based on _The Aspen Papers_.

(Sorry can't help much more than that.)

NICHAEL  
nichael@bbn.com  --                Bush/Gorbachev: One Down, One to Go
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From: fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Webster)
Subject: Re: books to avoid
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:02:19 GMT

With regard to "wikiwiki," William R. Smith writes:
>Seems to me the Hawaiian word for "quick" is an oxymoron.

Since I'll bound joyously in the direction of any discussion of
things Hawaiian these days, I'll explain a bit: "wikiwiki," like
many Hawaiian words, uses the principle of repetition for
amplification.  If you say something twice (to say *this* twice)
you're saying it more emphatically.  They take this to the extent
of changing proper names, the most famous example of which is
King Kamehameha (that's "kah-may-ah-MAY-ah"), whose original
name was just King Kameha, but people feel so fondly toward
him, they repeat the last two syllables of his name.  I take
it that this is like the Indian habit of adding "-ji" to the
names of well-loved people (e.g., "Gandhiji").

Hmmm...how 'bout some "Hawaiian" versions of the names of
rabbers?  Tom Maddoxdox?  Barbara Hlavinvin?  Ah, here's a 
good one: Mark Tarantoranto.

						--Fiona
From: fuller@athena.cs.uga.edu (James P. H. Fuller)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Bernard Berenson
Date: 14 Sep 92 03:04:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Sep14.030443.2056
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens


francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir) writes:

>Ms Zimmerman might help us explore this most expert of all art experts.
>In a sense he created the world of Italian art as we know it today. His
>personal collection was the most exquisite ever put together, not excepting
>that of the Romanovs.

     Kenneth Clark had some hard things to say in his autobiography about
Berenson's supposed practice of certifying the authenticity and merit of
various items for a fee.  Anything to this?
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From: fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Webster)
Subject: Re: books to avoid
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 02:45:53 GMT

Maybe the problem with book blurbs is that the publishing
companies need to fire all their advertising types and start
over--look for ideas in other areas of the public sector,
such as ad agencies who handle cosmetics, cars, liquor, etc.

My shampoo bottle, for example, has an excellent blurb, that
with a simple change in one word, would be perfect for a 
potential bestseller:

	Improved performance!  Self-adjusts to the
	changing needs of your mind!

						--Fiona
From: heath@athena.cs.uga.edu (Terrance Heath)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: ... on Miss Manners (cough)
Keywords: boogers
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:02:35 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <96a=02WL21wm01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> jjh00@OUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Joel J. Hanes) writes:
>
>  jmhodapp@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu writes:
>>
>> My personal favourite Miss Manners column dealt with the problem of
>> how to drink a long-necked beer.
>
>My favorite went something like this:
>
>   Dear Miss Manners:
>      We all know that it's not polite to pick one's nose,
>      yet it is often _neccessary_.  What is the proper
>      etiquette for nose-picking?
>
>   Gentle Reader:
>      The customs of manners and etiquette govern the public
>      behavior of polite persons.  What you do in private is
>      none of Miss Manners' business.
>


Well, as long as we're talking about favorites, mine goes something
like this:

	Dear Miss Manners:
		What do I say when I am introduced to a gay couple?


	Gentle Reader:
		"How do you do?" and "How do you do?"


-- 
"Black men loving black men is THE revolutionary act!"
			-Joseph Beam_
Terrance Heath 
heath@athena.cs.uga.edu
From: sph0301@utsph.sph.uth.tmc.edu (Kate Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Books on Disc!
Date: 11 Sep 1992 13:11:07 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Texas School of Public Health

In article <BuCsCI.ILI@agora.rain.com> hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins) writes:
>It is true that there would be some downfalls.  No more smell of a new
>book, no more feeling of accomplishment when you actually see how far along
>are you, no more paper weight.  However, I think that the option should
>exist for those that choose to go that route.  To each his own.


...and I've ruined three monitors trying to make notes in the margins.

kate
From: ian@spider.co.uk (Ian Heavens)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Books on Disc!
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:35:52 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <BuCsCI.ILI@agora.rain.com> hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins) writes:
>Naturally, the strain on the eyes from reading a monitor for a prolonged
>period of time comes into effect.  However, we can remedy this by adding a
>print-out feature, for those die-hard fans that don't mind wasting tons of
>paper.  Or maybe print-outs of chapters, if you get tired to read the
>screen.
>

It's much more difficult to understand screen-based text.  The advantage
of online text would be for newspapers and other ephemera. Save paper
by using libraries and swapping books, abolish private property.

>The overall benefit of putting books on cd, would be the room.  We could
>get several books from one author or mixtures.  There are several books out
>there that want to be read, but are out of print and a real problem to
>find.  Storing these books on disc would allow those people the opportunity
>to read those novels.
>

I like this idea - essentially you can get very small print runs (1). 
There is still the 'data entry' cost.

>It is true that there would be some downfalls.  No more smell of a new
>book, no more feeling of accomplishment when you actually see how far along
>are you, no more paper weight.  However, I think that the option should
>exist for those that choose to go that route.  To each his own.

I can't see this one catching one, unless the optic nerve evolves...


ian

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From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Chautauqua ? (Zen & the Art...)
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:31:17 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <88440@netnews.upenn.edu> I write::
>In article <1992Sep10.080414.1811@bnr.co.uk> br@bnr.co.uk (Brian Robertson) writes:
>>I have nearly finished reading Zen & the Art... and the author 
>>continually uses the word _chautauqua_ (sp?).  Although I have 
>>more or less worked out what the word means, could anyone help
>>me with its origins and use.  
>
>"Cha" is Navajo for "woman drowning."  
>
>"Taqua", originally "t'aqua", is a contraction of "in the river."
>
>It's widely used as a curse word at Democratic primaries.


Whoa, give this woman a cup of coffee!  

I was thinking of an entirely different Navajo word, one that begins 
with "chap" and ends with "dick".  

Never mind.

 
-- 
Lauren Crawford  //  crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu

I believe we are on the irreversible trend toward more freedom and
democracy -- but that could change.   -- J. Danforth Quayle  
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From: mgraham@nyx.cs.du.edu (Malcolm Graham)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Old Dean Koontz SF Novels
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 02:18:04 GMT

hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins) writes:

>	Can anyone help me?  I'm looking for old Dean R. Koontz novels!  
>Which includes sci-fi or any of his books under a pen name!  I know that
>they're out of print, but one can hope....
>	Any help would be very appreciated!!!!

>			-Casey Hopkins
>			hopkins@agora.rain.com

     Most of his early novels written under pseudonym (he used four) are
available in paperback...I think.  I know I have several that say
"originally published under the name Leigh Nichols (or other name)"  Those
that aren't yet available are being released on a staggered basis with his
new bestsellers.  The most recent release of his older work was "The House
of Thunder", released just after "Hideaway".  His new novel "Dragon Tears"
should be available early next year.
--M
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From: chucks@uars2.acd.ucar.edu (Chuck Smythe)
Subject: Re: Encyclopedia Brit.
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Atmospheric Chemistry
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:16:49 GMT

In article <79589@ut-emx.uucp> jzimm@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Joann Zimmerman) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.210547.20953@ncar.ucar.edu> chucks@uars2.acd.ucar.edu (Chuck Smythe) writes:

 >monument.  I later got a 1972 edition at the Aion Bookstore for about $200,
 

<What sort of condition were these Britannicae in?

Mint.  They looked as if they'd never been opened.  Probably hadn't.

			Chuck Smythe

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From: spb0457@zeus.tamu.edu (SubGenius)
Subject: Re: elusive allusion
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 19:37:00 GMT

Meg Worley writes...
>I turn to the estimable rab-wits to do for me what all the reference
>books around the house (including Benet's, Brewer's, and Drabble's) and
>the Emory reference desk could not:  define for me a phrase in this
>sunday's NYT magazine "hers" column.
>*Everywhere you look, there are men talking.  It's like a giant
>BLOVIATION BEE.*
>Any wisdom to shed on my constricted vocabulary, anyone?
>Rage away,
>meg

+---------------------------------------SubG---------------------------------+
If "bloviation" is the word yer havin' trouble with, I believe I can help;
the term "bloviating" was coined by a past President of the United Snakes
(Theo Roooooseyvelt, I believe) to describe politicians that talk a great
deal but do little (I cannot see as this creates a subset, but then again
I keep getting told that I can't understand politics [mostly by bloviatin'
politicians]).  In a nutshell, bloviation is talking just to hear the
wind blow.

In literature, you can find the word used in Don Robertson's _The Ideal,
Genuine Man_ if, that is, you can find the book.





Yours etc.,





SubGenius


Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: wwhitman@nevada.edu (MICHAEL WISE)
Subject: Re: unexpected quotes
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 09:19:33 GMT

When I turn on my computer, a quote from Thoreau, extended a little more
than the one found in the front of the poetry book in "Dead Poets Society"
but the same quote, greets me. As I use my various batch files, other
quotes pop up. It is my version of the old idea of the "commonplace book"
a writer's book of notable quotations. I even named the harddrive "common-
place."
This is my plan, and pops up when people finger me. It is from "As I Lay
Dying" by Faulkner. The paragraph parallels Descartes essay that eventually
results in "I think, therefore I am." The last two lines, however, form
a perfect haiku. 

	In a strange room you must empty yourself for sleep. And before
	you are emptied for sleep, what are you. And when you are emptied
	for sleep, you are not. And when you are filled with sleep, you
	never were. I dont know what I am. I dont know if I am or not.
	Jewel knows he is because he does not know that he does not know
	whether he is or not. He cannot empty himself for sleep because
	he is not what he is and he is what he is not. Beyond the
	unlamped wall I can hear the rain shaping the wagon that is ours,
	the load that is no longer theirs that felled and sawed it nor
	yet theirs that bought it and which is not ours either, lie on
	our wagon though it does, since only the wind and the rain shape
	it to Jewel and me, that are not asleep. And since sleep is	
	is-not and rain and wind are was, it is not. Yet the wagon is,
	because when the the wagon is was, Addie Bundren will not be. And
	Jewel is, so Addie Bundren must be. And then I must be, or I
	could not empty myself for sleep in a strange room. And so if I
	am not emptied	yet, I am is.

	How often I have lain beneath rain on a strange roof,
		thinking of home.


Although I prefer the beauty of Caddy as the main character of _The Sound
and the Fury_, this passage is quite a gem.

Michael Wise
O Captain! My Captain! (perhaps now that I've admitted to seeing "Dead
Poets Society" some will recognise that quote)
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From: spb0457@zeus.tamu.edu (SubGenius)
Subject: Re: books to avoid
Summary: more blurbs
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:53:00 GMT


Over at a local used bookstore yesterday, I noticed a cover with the
following line to reccommend it:

	Throbbing sexuality perculates trough the pages of this
	stunning expos [of something or other about schoolgirls]!

Trauma has kept me from recalling the actual title of the book, however.







-SubG
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From: usenet@oracle.us.oracle.com (Oracle News Poster)
Subject: Re: Agnostics and Athiests
Organization: Oracle Corp., Redwood Shores CA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 11:42:32 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Sep2.220455.7841@zip.eecs.umich.edu> charles@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Charles Jacob Cohen) writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IF THIS DOESN'T STOP, IM GOING TO START THE WORST CASCADE EVER.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>WHILE EATING THIS SLOP, I SEWED THE FIRST BROCADE BEAVER.
>>>>>>>>>>>>BILE FITTING RIG STOP, LIE SPEWED THIRST LIVER !!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>IF YOU MUST CONTRIBUTE, AT LEAST DELIVER...
>>>>>>>>>>WHO MAY I ATTRIBUTE TO THIS BEASTLY SLIVER?
>>>>>>>>>TO SPAY A LUTE IN A GREASY RIVER
>>>>>>>>DAMN CASCADERS THINK YOU'RE SO CLEVER
>>>>>>>I WILL NOT CASCADE; NOPE, NO, NEVER
>>>>>>WOULD YOU, COULD YOU, ON A TRAIN?
>>>>>WOULD YOU, COULD YOU, IN THE RAIN?
>>>>R2-D2 ON THE BRAIN?
>>>This cascade is damn insane!
>>And it's really getting lame!
>Can't we include just one name?
This is just too tame
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: alliteration
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:28:26 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

wismith@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (William R. Smith) writes:
> Lovers of alliteration, nay make that lovers of clever books, should
> check out the children's section of the bookstore next time you're
> in and browse thru the wonderfully illustrated book "Animals" by
> Graheme (buggered the spelling).  Each letter of the alphabet is
> illustrated by an animal and has a wonderful alliteration for what the
> animals are doing in the drawing.

Oh yes, and the ALA has made a poster of his "Lazy Library Lions".

I think, though, that my favorite alliterations (and near alliterations)
as a child came from Carl Sandburg's _Rootabaga Stories_, where Papa
Papa Huckabuck had a job as a watchman, watching the watches in the
watch factory in Walla Walla, Washington, and his daughter, Pony Pony
Huckabuck's luck was always changing when she found a Chinese silver
slipper buckle in some of the *most* unlikely places.

Or maybe Kipling's _Just So Stories_, set on "the great, grey-green
greasy banks of the Limpopo River"...

My poor mother had to read these to me when I had ear infections and
couldn't sleep.  A *very* patient woman.

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI
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From: mls@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (mike.siemon)
Subject: Re: Chautauqua ? (Zen & the Art...)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:31:05 GMT
Summary: not a contradiction, a typo

In article <1992Sep15.024228.6099@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>, I (mis)typed:

> I recognize the phrase "bracing in the winter" -- I live in Chicago.

That was then; this is now.  I meant I (have) live*d* in Chicago.
And besides, the wench is dead, and the snows have melted.
-- 
Michael L. Siemon		   "Oh, stand, stand at the window,
					As the tears scald and start;
mls@usl.com			   You shall love your crooked neighbor
standard disclaimer			With your crooked heart."
From: scp1524@hertz.njit.edu (scott c pearson cis stnt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Looking for bookstore in Pennsylvania
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:12:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.
Originator: scp1524@hertz.njit.edu

I recall seeing an advertisement for a science and technical
bookstore in Willow Grove, PA.  However, I can't recall its
name and telephone directory assistance was unable to help
me locate it.  Does anyone know the name of this bookstore
(it claims to be the largest of its type on the East coast)?

Any directions or comments will be appreciated.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: Chautauqua ? (Zen & the Art...)
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:56:03 GMT
Organization: The Gizmonic Institute

mike.siemon writes:
>Admittedly, "upstate New York" means anything outside the five boroughs
>(and probably also excludes Lon Gisland), but it should be noted that
>Chatauqua is a few miles south of Lake Erie, on a feeder lake named,
>oddly enough, Chatauqua) and equally few miles east of the westernmost
>border of New York.  It's about 100 miles northeast of Cleveland, and
>that is perhaps the best localization of its ethos.
>-- 

Is this a slur on Cleveland? I don't understand. Cleveland has a
rather undeserved reputation for unsavoriness, but it is -- in fact --
the most culturally diverse city in the country. Very European.
Almost Balkan. Charmingly located on Lake Erie, bracing in the winter,
mild in the summer, quite pretty in the fall. We (I expand) have
also abandoned last place in the American League East division.

The tendency to believe terrible things unquestioningly is one of the
curses of the modern age.
-- 
Coach Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> Season: 0-3 Lifetime: 0-5 
I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you all to repent from your sins.
From: mtaranto@shearson.com (Mark Taranto)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Bookstores in New York City (NYC) List
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:54:18 GMT


ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (evelyn.c.leeper) writes:

> The French-Spanish Bookstore (Rockefeller Center)
>       A very large selection of French and Spanish novels, short stories,
>       non-fiction, etc.  Some newspapers, magazines, and records.  They
>       also have a reasonably large selection of dictionaries and
>       instruction books for other languages.  Prices tend to be high.
>       They have a slightly bigger store downtown on 5th at 19th street,
>       which has many, many more dictionaries.  Staff is usually fluent in
>       French or Spanish.
 
> The French-Spanish Bookstore (5th Avenue and 19th)
>       A very large selection of French and Spanish novels, short stories,
>       non-fiction, etc.  Some newspapers, magazines, and records.  They
>       also have a reasonably large selection of dictionaries and
>       instruction books for other languages.  Prices tend to be high.
>       They have a slightly smaller store uptown in Rockefeller Center.
>       Staff is usually fluent in French or Spanish.
 
 
These bookstores are run by the same people, but the Rockefeller Center
bookstore is primarily a French bookstore.  It also has a different name:
 
                Librarie De France   (212) 581-8810
 
It is a small storefront on the Promenade (near the skating rink, opposite
the Teuscher's Chocolate shop :-)  The Promenade is located off of 5th Avenue,
between 49th and 50th streets.
 
At first, the store appears to be very small, but there is a downstairs
section whith about five or six times the space as the upstairs.  I had
been in the store several times before I discovered the downstairs section.
 
 
Mark
 
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From: twain@milton.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin)
Subject: Re: Androgyny & The Arts
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 01:22:30 GMT


[Infidel finds no merit in what I have to say about it.]

>In truth, she understands neither.

You may be right.  What's your understanding of the term?

--Barbara
From: rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu (Roger Squires)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: unexpected quotes
Date: 13 Sep 92 22:26:07 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Sep13.205116.16372@cs.yale.edu> loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore) writes:
>One of the joys of reading is coming across good quotes in unexpected
>places.  Consider this one:
>

	[neat quote]
	There are some great passages in the _Federalist Papers_
	as well.  I especially recall one that likened the government
	to a solar system, with the states as minor planets, that
	I thought was very finely turned.

Roger Squires
rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu