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From: rkwst+@pitt.edu (Raymond K Wong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Acts of love
Date: 17 Oct 92 03:16:36 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <s907459.719219426@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU> s907459@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Ka Wo Anthony Liu) writes:
>>How true.   Love is about giving, not taking.  I learned that the hard way.
>
>Wrong!!! Love is both ways and it is not a gift.  You won't want to take      
>back any gift from someone if you treat love as a gift. Love is a relationship
>that take both individual's responsibility. There is no way out if you        
>love someone that expect  you to give and don't care about your feeling.      


You don't expect to love someone and get love in return.  That's not true love.
You are talking about "relationship" here which is a two ways thing.  But love
itself is not.   If you truely love someone, you not necessarily expect or
demand love in return.  Many greatest love stories are about non-reciprical
love.  Love does not mean happiness.  If you don't see a way to love someone
who expects you to give and give but care not your feelings, then there's
not true love.  That's the reason why I said it's so hard to achieve "real"
love because everyone expects results.   You say you love someone only if
the that some responds...that's not what love is about.  Human beings are
by nature selfish.  And true love is selfless.  

Ray
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From: afung@world.std.com (Al K Fung)
Subject: Re: Cultural Influences on Visual Perception
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 03:06:39 GMT


I am not sure your 3 choices covered the entire spectrum of cultures, 
especially those of the East. To me the following call is more 
representative of the Eastern cultures:

           "I call it the way I think is fair!"

For lack of a better term I call it idealistic utilitarianism. This is 
baseball a la Japanese :). Easterners seem quite comfortable with it. 
However, it drives the Westerners up the wall because they think it is 
a rackless disregard for the "truth".

I think all forms of empiricism inevitably lead to subjectivism (as 
Hume had demonstrated). Absolutism seems quite incompatible with the 
propensity for dualism in the East. Arguably, this curious mixture of 
Kantian idealism and the Millian utilitarianism is a form of 
constructivism. In either case it probably is no better or worse than
all of the above.  

I think the hallmark of us Easterners is our utilitarian orientation.
However, unlike the Benthamites, our summum bonum tends to be a bit 
Machiavellian.

Just another brick .... :)

Regards,

Al Fung
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One Kendall Square, Suite 2200, Cambridge, MA 02139
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From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: ooOO dOG AND GOd OOoo
Keywords: dog god
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:20:52 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH


[someone wrote]
>Then you mean pi = 3.14159... is a universal truth, even in front of
>the all-mighty God.  God cannot change this truth.  God is also limited
>then.

>I do not think asking God to change pi's value is the same as asking
>him to draw a squared circle.  Can you show him a squared circle first
>so that he can draw it?  If pi's value must not be changed, it means
>there are rules in the universe that are irrelevent to God's existence.
>Why don't we treat the rules as God so that we need not seek help from
>religion?

Hmm... I often wonder if pi is always a constant...

I just am curious... (though I know this doesn't belong to schk, so feel 
free to hit 'n' if you don't like thinking about pi and stuff. ;)

Let's say our universe is actually tilted--and all images are distorted.  
In other words, 2-D images are actually 3-D.  A circle could be enlongated
(or perhaps slightly bent due to the "curvature" of our universe).  
Now, to us, it appears to be a "circle"--a round shape with pi=3.1415...
yet, from another organism of another universe point of view, the circle
might not appear to be round... hence, it doesn't have a pi=3.1415...

My teacher once told me that a bent triangle (3-D as opposed to 2-D) has
three angles just like any ordinary triangles.  However, these three
angles don't add up to 180 degree... 

Mm...

>Ah Tung
>C.U.H.K.
> 

Just a silly person with a silly thought,
Kelvin

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wskan@vela.acs.oakland.edu (KAN WA S)
Subject: Re: HK comics: Tin Ha
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:37:38 GMT

I get the issue 4 and 5 this past summer, but i've heard my friend say the
weekly issue is much ahead, wind become evil and somebody is trying to help
him to overcome the 'madness', and cloud join some group, sorry, couldn't 
tell you that much.

Fran

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: u1040448@keystone.arch.unsw.edu.au (C Ma)
Subject: Re: The fifth tin wong
Organization: Faculty of Architecture, UNSW, Australia
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:59:37 GMT

In article <Bw1Gxq.A3q@acsu.buffalo.edu> v050qh6y@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (SYS$LOGIN:SIGNATURE.TXT) writes:
>well, i am not exactly old, im 21, but he is 17, so everytime i see his 
>posters, i feel old, i guess it is also becuz i look older than him.
>
>

Jimmy has just turned 18! Happy Birthday! :)



Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk (HoiFung JACK @>-`)
Subject: Re: ooOO dOG AND GOd OOoo
Keywords: dog god
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:37:03 GMT

In article <1bbuukINNfrf@lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk> you write:
>In article <1992Oct11.130813.2035@uxmail.ust.hk> bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk (HoiFung JACK @>-`) writes:
>>
>>			IS THE GOD ALMIGHTY?
>>			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>	** DOG'S THEOREM:  	The God is not all-powerful **
>>
>>Proof:
>>	Assume the God is all-powerful.
>>	Thus, the God has the power to do anything
>>	=> the God has the power to create a mass which HE cannot lift
>>	   up
>>	=> the God cannot lift up a mass
>>	=> the God is not all-powerful
>>
>>		!!!!CONTRADICTION!!!!
>>
>>	=> Completed the proof of DOG'S THEOREM by contrapositivity.
>>
>>    @@@@  WELCOME ANY DOGS PLACING DOG'S COMMENTS ON DOG'S THEORM  @@@@
>
>This is a really old so called "proof" but it was discussed in numerous
>jounals of philosophy that it is not a paradox. The traditional way
>to answer is that God could not create something which is logically
>impossible but that doesn't affect his omnipotence.
>
>The other way to answer is to say that God does HAVE THE POWER to create
>such a stone. At time t, God's having the power to create such a stone
>won't affect his omipotence. As long as he doesn't create it, he is
>still omnipotent. So when you ask does God have the power to create
>such a stone, the answer is, Yes, He does. God only becomes not omnipotent
>when He does create such a stone. But he has no reason of making himself
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>not omnipotent.
>

How about if a naughty Dog says:

=>	The God has the power to create a mass which HE cannot lift up under
  	any possible situations in the God's level 
	(Remarks: say, at any time, in any places, 
		in n-dimensions, for all n....)
=>	The God cannot lift up a mass under any possible situations 

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk (HoiFung JACK @>-`)
Subject: Re: OPEN JUDGEMENT OF A "COLOR WOLF"
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:13:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.173354.14259@cs.brown.edu> cs123057@cs.brown.edu (Chainsaw) writes:
>|> >Pubic humiliation however, is GUARANTEED to work, nothing works better than
>|> >pubic embarrassing him in public.
>|> 
>|> Chainsaw, is something guaranteed to work MUST BE the best solution?!
>|> 						HoiFung JACK @>-`
>
>I didn't say that it is guaranteed to be the BEST solution, I only claimed 
that it will work.
            ^^^^^
>However, since this type of humiliation is really going to HURT the 
							    ^^^^
sexual offender.  It IS
>the best way if the offended wanted immediate revenge.
>			                       ^^^^^^^
>					CHainsaw

Chainsaw,
It will work on what? work on REVENGE? work on HURTing the mentally imbalanced?
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: dteng@cmcvx1.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: Wanted:Comments on New CD
Organization: Claremont McKenna College
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:46:48 PST

In article <1992Oct16.114414.9508@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, ins903u@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (***RAYSON WONG**) writes:
> A few of my friends hesitated at buying Haken's new album as they thought
> that the cover was ugly. They probably did not want to ruin their "nice and
> pretty" CD collections buy putting it next to album covers like Sandy Lam
> and Sally Yip....Is it THAT BAD! ??? I don't know that is why I am asking
> you guys for an opinion. His last album cover wasn't that spectacular, but
> the songs very pretty good inside!
> 
> 	Also the cover of Sandy Lam's new album is very good. ie packaged
> in box and pretty little booklet as well! Can't wait to get it!!
> 	Sa Yo Na Ra! (not the song!)
> 

	Dude, I wanna know how the songs sound!!! I've seen the covers
already!! =^)
						BusterR!
From: cheung@mathcs.emory.edu (Shun Yan Cheung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Search a way to give birth to a son?
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:46:10 GMT
Reply-To: cheung@mathcs.emory.edu
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS

In article 2328@cix.cict.fr, wu@uranus.cerfacs.fr (Wangnan Wu) writes:
'Hi,
'I'm just thirty-two years old and I had five daughters. 

That's a dangerous thing to say in soc.culture.hongkong !
You will have many requests from future s.c.hk'ers soliciting
the hand of your daughters ;-) ;-)

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From: bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: New Topic: Chinese Christians
Date: 9 Oct 1992 17:04:11 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
Keywords: Chinese Christians

In article <1992Oct9.053026.22190@cc.uow.edu.au> tcheung@cc.uow.edu.au (teresa cheung) writes:
>Does anyone want to comment on why some
>Hong Kong students when they study overseas
>become Christians and join "Chinese Christian
>Fellowships"
>
>Comments?
Does it have to be HK students coming overseas?  For my case, I
became a Christian when I got to Berkeley.  I guess there are
a few reasons, but initially, it was because you get to meet
people at church (and @Berkeley, those are pretty much the more
"normal" ;-P  relatively, anyway).  Later, you find out that
there's a Chinese Christian Fellowship and you join that because:
1) You get to hang around Chinese students
2) You don't feel like a minority (though we aren't, right?)
3) These are usually the "better" or USDA Choice people, people who
	are supposed to be "good" (well, not drug addicts or alcolholics)
	But, in reality, this is almost always not always true.
4) Chinese Christian Fellowships are more fun than other Chinese Student
	Associations because you have a main topic to always fall back
	to, whereas, in those CSA's all you do is gossip.  (oh no, my
	CSA friends (the few there are) will probably kill me if they
	find out :)
Well, that pretty much sums up the initial want to join a CCF.
After a while, you might get lonely, and feel that God really is
comforting.  Or, you start asking questions like "Why the heck am
I on this Earth?" "What is there to life than this?" and other
similar questions, at which point, you start looking for anything,
any religion to help solve these unsolvable questions.
-- 
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Just Babbling   <bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu>   state of confusion"
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: yao@perform1.tti.com (Yuhan Yao)
Subject: Re: Search a way to give birth to a son?
Keywords: method, son
Organization: Citicorp / TTI
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:45:49 GMT

In article <1bfiu4INN1u7@roche.csl.sri.com> dchan@cisco.com (Derek Chan) writes:
>
>I think the only way to get a son is keep trying. The more daughters  you
>have the less chance you have for the next one to be a girl.
>
>The chance of getting a girl is 50%.
>
>The chance of getting a first girl and a second girl is 50% * 50% = 25%
>
>The chance of getting a 1st girl and a 2nd girl and a 3rd girl is 50% * 50% *50%
>= 12.5% and so on.
>
>Derek


What you said is right if you start with 0 child, that is, if you have no
child as of now, then you can predict the chance of giving birth to two
girls in a row is 25%, and so on.  However, having given birth to one
girl, the chance (or probability) of getting another girl at next time is 
*still* 50%.  This implies something like "yeh, keep trying, but don't expect
too much".  The chance of getting a girl at every single birth is 50%,
regardless of what happen before (a non-Markov process  :-)

Sorry if I discourage anybody.


Yuhan
From: yho@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Ho Yeung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: VISA
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:00:28 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


HI,

I have a question on F-1 Visa. I am graduating this December and 
most probably I will go to graduate study in the same school. I was
wondering does anyone know should I go back HK to renew my F-1 VISA
or not ? Is that possible for me to get F-1 VISA renew in USA first
and then go back HK for X'mas ?? 

Thanks for any advice.. 

Ho Yeung
From: atmadja@cs.purdue.EDU (Hery Atmadja)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Madly in love with her! (SUGGESTIONS FROM MY VIEW)
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:54:14 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

>	know exactly what you are doing and do it gradualy and properly, she 
>	will be touched someday...
>	
>	Good luck!  
>
>
>	Cindy

Agreed! Control your hormones so as not to make an A** of yourself.

Hery
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From: bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk (HoiFung JACK @>-`)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: ooOO dOG AND GOd OOoo
Keywords: dog god
Date: 11 Oct 92 13:08:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: uxmail.1992Oct11.130813.2035
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology


			IS THE GOD ALMIGHTY?
			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	** DOG'S THEOREM:  	The God is not all-powerful **

Proof:
	Assume the God is all-powerful.
	Thus, the God has the power to do anything
	=> the God has the power to create a mass which HE cannot lift
	   up
	=> the God cannot lift up a mass
	=> the God is not all-powerful

		!!!!CONTRADICTION!!!!

	=> Completed the proof of DOG'S THEOREM by contrapositivity.

    @@@@  WELCOME ANY DOGS PLACING DOG'S COMMENTS ON DOG'S THEORM  @@@@


         ****   Next Attraction:	Is Dog the God?  :)   ****

						ooOO dOG AND GOd OOoo

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From: s907459@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Ka Wo Anthony Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Acts of love
Date: 16 Oct 92 07:10:26 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

rkwst+@pitt.edu (Raymond K Wong) writes:


>How true.   Love is about giving, not taking.  I learned that the hard way.

Wrong!!! Love is both ways and it is not a gift.  You won't want to take      
back any gift from someone if you treat love as a gift. Love is a relationship
that take both individual's responsibility. There is no way out if you        
love someone that expect  you to give and don't care about your feeling.      

>But usually it's so much easy to say than to do it.   
 Coz it is impossible.

Anthony.
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: HKPA.SCENIC - HK scenic picture posting
Date: 12 Oct 1992 05:00:16 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sam.civil.ubc.ca


HONG KONG PICTURES ARCHIVE - SCENIC COLLECTION (HKPA.SCENIC)
============================================================
NEW PICTURE POSTINGS
====================

Hello everyone. I just posted a wonderful night scenic of Hong Kong in
newsgroups alt.binaries.pictures and alt.binaries.pictures.misc.
The details are as follows:

File:        hk1991c.gif
Description: Hong Kong Macau Pier night scene
Resolution:  1012 x 630 x 256 colors
Contributor: Fran(Wa Shing Kan) wskan@vela.acs.oakland.edu

The file is also available at the ftp site asia.lcs.mit.edu
in the directory pub/hongkong/hkpa/scenic.

Special thanks to Fran for contributing the file.
More of Fran's scenic pictures to come.

Thomas.
From: wkau+@cs.cmu.edu (Wing Keung F Au)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Genetics/PMS/Midlife crisis
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:50:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bvt7zG.14r.2
Distribution: usa
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Oct7.164450.28278@athena.mit.edu> siu@athena.mit.edu (Olivia I Siu) writes:
> [quotes about how women may be affected by hormonal cycles deleted]
>
>I think this is one of the society taboos that should be completely 
>overthrown.  Blaming one's acts on the HORMONES, or the GENETICS
>of human, is a disgraceful excuse in explaining one's faults.
>One has to be responsible for one's acts no matter what state one
>is in, even if it's caused by physical and genetic constraints.
> ...
>My conclusion is a human being is intelligent enough to be responsible
>for his/her own acts, without finding some "term" as an excuse to 
>justify their irresponsible acts.  Such reasoning is illogical.
>
>Olivia

right, but don't forget that human beings do have some "animal
instincts", admit it or not.  my religion is that,
"stupid people make some smart moves and smart people make
some stupid moves.  it is a matter how those smart moves
will change lives for good or bad respectively."

it is very logical,  Chinese's "ah Q"

-- 

				    FRed W. Au
				    ...!cmu.edu!au+, au+@cmu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cosc180f@rosie.uh.edu (92F06810)
Subject: Re: Exotic Cars
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:17:00 GMT

In article <ylam.718683875@sfu.ca>, ylam@fraser.sfu.ca (Yau Ha Elina Lam) writes...
>cosc180f@rosie.uh.edu (92F06810) writes:
> 
>>	Let's start a topic about exotic CARS!  Any MAN who knows about cars, 
>> owns an exotic car, seen exotic cars, please contribute your experience.  I  
>> used to have a CRX HF.  Of course it is nothing like a Ferrari, but with a 
>> 1500 c.c engine, it could go over 105 mph.
>>	What are you driving there?  3000GT twin turbo? 300zx?  RX 7 twin turbo?
>> OR a Ferrari?  
> 
>     My DREAM car is the Lotus Elan... 1.6 litre DOHC inline four with turbo
>charge, 165 HP, 0-60mph time of 6.7 sec.  The fibreglass body weighs only 
>2250lb.  It isn't the most powerful car in existent, but its design is so
>beautiful and sensible... makes one think that adding or taking off of an
>inch anywhere on the car would make it look less pretty.  I am just madly
>in love with it!
>     In all honesty, I am no big fan of cars.  I don't look at cars that
>much, and don't know much about their internals at all (which I think is
>atypical of boys... I just have too many other interests).  Normally
>I treat cars only as a way to commute.  The Elan is the only exception.
>I am totally crazy about it, and every time I drive by an exotic car rental
>shop in my town I stop and walk to the shop to look at it for five minutes.
>On one occasion (which was my first date with my dream girl) I rented the
>car for a day to pick her up to dinner.  Yes, my dream girl in my dream 
>car!!!  I have never driven another sports car so I can't make a comparison.
>All I can say is that comparing to my lowly Jetta, the car is very powerful.
>Acceleration and handling is incredible.
>     When I first saw this car in June this year in Hong Kong, I was thinking
>that I may be able to save enough money in a few years to buy it.  The price
>of the car is about $42,000 US, which I think is grossly overpriced even though
>the car is hand-built.  What I didn't know is that the car was already out of
>production early in June, even before our first encounter.  I don't have 
>enough money to buy it now, and in a few years the car would probably become
>a collectible and I wouldn't be able to afford it (plus no warranty, no parts,
>no nothing...).  Now all I have is a 1990 magazine review of it, and a few
>photos of it (and my dream girl) to cherish...
>     ...which I think is okay.
> 
>     Timothyy
 	Timothy, it is very lucky of you that you got to drive a car like that! 
 I like the style of Elan too, yet it is far too expensive as you mentioned.
 In addition, it is not a pure Lotus breed, right.  The engine it has is from
 ISUZU, isn't it?  Any comments on that?
 	With that amount of money,  have you ever considered cars like 93'RX7,
 or 3000GT?

 	Tony Chan cosc180f@jetson.uh.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong