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From: adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Few important (to me!) questions
Date: 2 Oct 92 23:52:05 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization


Hey all, here are a few questions I have concerning OS/2...

1.  I received the 2.01 beta package and it chokes on Operating System disk 1,
giving me an FDISK error in INSTALL.LOG.  Any comments on why?  Version 2.0
has been running beautifully on my 486/50 EISA for a long time.  I have
8mb ram, 240 mb IDE EISA HD with EISA controller.

2.  Referring to my IDE EISA controller by DTC...  Under DOS, the performance
is simply amazing.  I get real-world times of about 4mb/sec.  Under OS/2, I
get about a quarter of this figure, the reason being that the controller
needs a device driver in order to run in enhanced mode.  A call to DTC
revealed that they do not have an OS/2 driver and are not planning to
make one.  What, if anything, do you all think I can/should do about this?
This is SO annoying.

Thanks for the prompt replies (via email please...).
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From: benezra_a@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: RE: BETA (32BIT GRE & WIN
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:43:16 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <10252.329.uupcb@brent.uucp>, dennis.powell@brent.uucp (Dennis Powell) writes:
> 
> EG: Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
>     From: edg@Ingres.COM (Ed Goldman)
>     Subject: Re: Beta (32bit GRE & WIN31) works better, but no SVGA
>     Message-ID: <1992Sep22.154808.15640@pony.Ingres.COM>
>     Reply-To: edg@Ingres.COM (Ed Goldman)
>     Date: 22 Sep 92 15:48:08 GMT
> 
> 
> according  to  mel  hallerman in boca, the et4000 drivers are in the CSD


I think he said there was support up t1024x768x for the ET4000

> that gets itsef released this very week.  if you're willing to  download
> it.   which  is  a  6-hour  proposition  at  9600.  otherwise wait until
> mid-october.

If we dwait until Oct, how much will icost?ost?
ab
> 
> dep

Hi dennis, we meet again.
> ___
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From: djbpitt+@pitt.edu (David J Birnbaum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 50DX vs 66DX2 and OS/2
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:54:27 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

>The components for the 50MHz system
>are of higher quality so that they will run at 50Mhz.  This higher
>quality and the possibility of a 100DX2 might be worth initial cut in
>performance, which probably will be fairly minor.

Does anyone have any recent information about the possibility of a
100DX2. When clock-doubled chips first appeared, there was much talk
about how the whole DX range would have clock-doubled counterparts. Does
anyone know whether Intel still intends (or ever actually intended) to
go ahead with a 100DX2?

Thanks,

David

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From: mike.walsh@compart.fi (Mike Walsh) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: RE: OS/2 SOFTWARE.
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:25:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ComPart BBS, Helsinki-Finland, +358 0 506 3329 (14 lines V.32bis)
Reply-To: mike.walsh@compart.fi (Mike Walsh) 

As the guy who "already has" (produced a list of OS/2 products). Let me
warn you that Tinf21 is about 6 or 7 months old. The latest one
on Hobbes according to a Timothy Sipples message is TINF28.zoo and the
latest I uploaded to Compuserve was Tinf29.zip (upl beginning of Sept.)
the next one will go up to CIS when the re-org of the IBM conferences is
complete and I know where to post it.     Mike
                                                                                                                 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mcrocker@titan.ucc.umass.edu (MATTHEW S CROCKER)
Subject: Re: How do I install beta from B:?
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:54:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.014050.22161@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> kbass@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ken Bass) writes:
>I should be getting the beta soon, but have seen here it requires 3 1/2
>disk as drive A:. I do not have that. So I'd like to know, will it work,
>just by swapping the cables on the two drivers and changing the setup?
>

Move the drive cables :)   (thats what I did...  3 1/2 1.44 MB should be 
                            A: anyway... its the way the computer god meant
                            it to be :)

>    ---Ken
>
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>Student, Department of Electrical Engineering |   Software Engineer 

-Matt

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From: olender@vivaldi.cs.colostate.edu (Kurt Olender)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 CSD   e-mail disribution
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:01:22 GMT
Organization: Colorado State Univ. Computer Science Dept.



   I can't agree - this method allows those who haven't already paid for OS/2
   to obtain it free of charge.  (Don't forget the service pack is the
   complete system, not just bug fixes). I'm sure IBM wouldn't want to
   encourage software piracy in this way.

If the Service Pack is set up like the OS/2 v1.x CSD's then this is not true.
The CSD's were set up in such a way that you must install it over an
existing system.  They were not just an updated complete installation.

IBM will make the service pack available by anonymous ftp, so I
don't see the difference between that and comp.binaries.os2.

However, I disagree that distributing the Pack via internet news will save
bandwidth.  Keeping messages below 50K and number of messages per day to 20 or
so to keep the load reasonable, it could take upwards of 400 or 500 messages
and 3-4 weeks to distribute the whole 20 MB or so!  That is bandwidth spent
regardless of whether anyone at a site actually retrieves the messages.  Think
about how long GCC took recently to fully distribute on the newsgroup and
multiply that by 8 or 10.
From: harald@vall.dsv.su.se (Harald Fragner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 387: TO EMULATE OR NOT TO EMULATE ???
Date: 27 Sep 92 11:31:40 GMT
Organization: Stockholm University, Sweden
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

adamsm@woods.ulowell.edu wrote:
: I have a question concerning OS/2 emulation of the 80387 in a dos box.
: I don't have a 387 at this point so, as I was told on this group, os/2 emulates
: one for those programs which check to see if one is present on the system.
: Many such programs (Harpoon to name one), slow down to a crawl due to IBM's
: over-emulation of the 387 instruction set.  My question is simple, is there a
: way to disable this emulation, forcing the programs to revert back to their
: own internal math routines (which are undoubtedly much faster being a subset of
: the 387)?  This problem makes many of my programs almost unusable, I have a
: 387-40 which should have enought speed to overcome this if I can disable OS/2's
: emulation.  Help... Help... A few tips would be greatly appreciated!
: 
: Mike Adams (Alumni Database Programmer, University of Lowell)

387 Emulation is only for OS/2 sessions, not for DOS sessions. Therefor the
emulation is already disabled.

Tip: 387 chips are really cheap nowdays....(-:

/Harald
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: andrzej@bnr.ca (Andrzej Bieszczad)
Subject: Re: Redbooks on software.watson.ibm.com
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.,
	<1992Sep30.180337.29211@cis.ohio-state.edu>
	<1992Sep30.200853.160110@watson.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:26:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.200853.160110@watson.ibm.com> nrt@watson.ibm.com (Nicholas R. Trio) writes:
   >
   >Any comments on what the problem was and which redbooks (if not all)
   >had the problem?
   >
   >--Golden

   Honestly, I have no idea.  I didn't unzip and read them, so I couldn't
   begin to tell you what is different about them.  My job at IBM involves
   the Internet & Unix/AIX, and not OS/2 so I really don't know much about
   the fixes, etc. except what I read in the package files. :-)

I would prefer a postscript or ascii versions. Do they exist? Could they
be put in the same directory on hobbes?


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From: dlc@ddsdx2.jhuapl.edu (Dave Collard x7468)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Softerm > 2400 baud doesn't work!
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:50:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Johns Hopkins University

I am unable to get the Softerm comm program to
work at > 2400 baud.  My setup is:

  COM1	Mouse		Irq3
  COM2  External Port	Irq4
  COM3  Internal modem	Irq5

The modem has a 16550 UART.  It is a 14K modem. It has
all the compression/error protocols.  The brand is
Infotel.

I have added (3,3e8,5) to the line containing COM.SYS as
specified in the FAQ.

My comm programs under DOS work fine at faster speeds.

What happens when I set the baud rate to > 2400 is:

The modem dials... but then nothing...Softerm hangs hard
and I have to hit Ctl-ESC to get the window list and then
get the message that Softerm is not responding -- so I kill
it.

Anybody have any advice?  I sure would like to be able to download
faster than this!  

--Thor
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: How's it like to run OS/2 in 4M?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 03:15:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.164119.25800@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> byu@white.toronto.edu (Benjamin Yu) writes:
>I am considering getting a laptop with only 4M/80M.  It is a 386sxl/25.
>(That's all I can afford now!) I would really like to run OS/2 on it but 
>would it run really slow to the point that it is unusable?

With the Workplace Shell, not great.  With the forthcoming Service Pak
OS/2 2.0 is supposed to slim down and fit much better in 4 MB, but,
right now, with the Workplace Shell, it is sluggish in 4 MB.

However, you can very easily run OS/2 2.0 without the WPS (and still
run DOS, Windows, and all OS/2 programs, including PM).  See the FAQ
List for details.

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 00:58:51 EDT
From: <JXL103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: switching back and forth from win-os/2 full screen

....whenever I open a win-os/2 full screen, switch to the desktop, and then
switch back again to windows, all I get is the dos command line screen that
appears before win-os/2 loads....in another words, after I open a win-os/2 scre
en, switch to the desktop, I can't switch back to the win-os/2 screen...any
suggestions.?...
....I'm running a 486/33, ATI Graphics Ultra in 8514/A mode, HPFS,...can't
think of anything else relevant....
please e-mail any suggestions....
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: panos@db.toronto.edu (Panos Economopoulos)
Subject: Re: Partition/Swapfile problem
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:37:24 GMT

cj00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Carl B Jabido) writes:

>Help!!
>If I reboot the computer without shutting down (because of a crash), I
> ....
>button) without shutting down, I suddenly lose 10 megs on the partition
>that the swapfile is on.  Computer crash.  Then reboot, and hard drive
>is automatically checked.  Once I get control, there's a new swapfile,
>and an unaccounted for 10 megs or so.  
> ....

>I hate reformatting.
>Please help.

>Carl Jabido
>cj00@andrew.cmu.edu

I had _exactly_ the same problem, not so long ago. Autocheck and
CHKDSK /F didn't seem to work, even  when run a number of times
in a row. 

What __DID__ fix the problem was running CHKDSK /F:3

Follow the instructions in the FAQ list in order to run CHKDSK correctly.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: wkn@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ken Neighbors)
Subject: Where's the bug list (APARs?)
Keywords: APAR
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 01:22:24 GMT

I saw a list of APARs posted recently, and thought I saved it, but now I 
can't find it.  Nor can I find it in the posts stored on our system.

I thought this list was available at ftp-os2.nmsu.edu as "buglist", but it
is no longer there.  Can someone tell me where I can find it or repost it?

Thanks,
Ken Neighbors
wkn@leland.stanford.edu
From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Some OS/2 News I read ...
Date: 6 Oct 1992 12:54:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, sundaram@cps.msu.edu (Divya Sundaram) says:

>
>Hi y'all,
>Here is some stuff I read in INFO WORLD:
>	Novell does not plan to further support OS/2 interface with Netware


You were mislead by the title of the article.  Novell is going to support os/2
2.0, but they are not going to use it as a strategic platform.  This means
that netware servers will not be running os/2, but novell will continue to
provide a netware requester for os/2.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: wjw1@me1.MsState.Edu (Bill Wilson)
Subject: Re: New OS/2 beta install problem
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 03:07:24 GMT

In article <$&#@byu.edu> earlyd@newt.ee.byu.edu (David Early) writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep28.233001.10690@ra.msstate.edu>, I wrote:
>>Howdy Netters... I just got the new OS/2 beta today, and am having
>>problems installing. When I try to boot off of the beta installation
>>diskette, I get the following errors:
>>SYS !! 02025
>>SYS !! 02027
>>and then the system hangs. (I think that is the way they look... the 
>>numbers are correct anyway.)
>
>My friend had this problem and it turned out that the first
>disk was bad on his distribution set (2.0 GA, not the beta).
>He had the EXACT same errors.  I would replace the disk
>and try again.
>
>David Early

Hmmm... this is funny, but later on that same night I realized that my
3 1/2" drive was not reading ANY disks... even those I knew were good.
So I fiddled a little with the drive cable (I had to switch them to get
the 3 1/2" as my A: drive) and the install program worked. I now have
the beta installed and running very nicely.

The only thing that really puzzles me is that before I got the install
to work on my system, I tried to install it on my roommate's 486-50...
and we got the same errors. BUT, his drive was working fine! This 
really puzzles me. 

Anybody out there got any ideas? I now have no problems reading the 
beta installation disk, but we cannot get it to work on my roommates
machine for some reason.

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From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: 3.5" beta disks-what if A: = 5.25"?
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 03:52:44 GMT

Is there any work-around to installing the beta on a system with
the A: drive being 5.25"?  The beta comes on 3.5" diskettes ONLY.

I fiddled with my BIOS - no luck there.  I looked at the cables from my
drives in my computer, and they weren't compatible so I couldn't
just switch them around.  Am I outta luck?

Thanks-
-Dan
.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jburns@pdxgp1 (John Justin Burns Jr.)
Subject: Compatibility testing: What would you do?
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:46:41 GMT

I am in charge of developing tests that test the compatibility of some
of our products with OS/2 and its applications.  My question is simple,
but the answer may not be: What applications do we test?  For instance,
we already test Describe.  What else should be done?

I would like any and all answers to be posted here in order to generate
some discussion.  Please do not say 'test everything'.
Assume there is a budget.  Assume the  products are hardware that 
normally fit somewhere on the motherboard.

Standard disclaimers apply.  I speak only for my self.  Intel is not
responsible for anything of the conversation.

Thanks,

John Burns
From: mendels1@husc4.harvard.edu (Andrew Mendelsohn)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Combining WPS desktops?
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:05:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Oct5.120503.16095
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

I would like to extract the information about objects from the WPS, so
as to be able to combine this information with similar info from another
computer's WPS and then reconstruct a combined desktop.  I do not believe
WPS backup and restore has this capability. Any specific suggestions.
andy mendelsohn
mendels1@husc4.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: gregory@halcyon.com (Gregory Wright)
Subject: Re: WINOS2 mouse problem (was: winos231 mouse problem)
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 04:20:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.181027.3881@cbnews.cb.att.com> shurr@cbnews.cb.att.com (larry.a.shurr) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.045059.8526@tamsun.tamu.edu> pzs3761@tamaix.tamu.edu (Pete Sierant) writes:
>}    When switching from a full-screen winos231 session to the desktop,
>}then back to winos231, I lose my mouse pointer. Switch back to the 
>}desktop using alt-esc (ctrl-esc is the win task list!) and my mouse
>}is fine. How can I keep my mouse in the winos2 session? I have a logitech
>}mouse, beta generic 800x16 driver, 32 bit GRE beta.
>
>I am not running the beta, but I experience the same problem in WINOS2.
>The mouse still works even though there's no pointer.  I managed to grab
>and move the program manager window while fiddling around in a WINOS2
>session where the mouse pointer had disappeared.
>
>I, too, am running a Logitech mouse (bus version), Gateway 2000 386sx,
>Diamond SpeedStar with Orchid Pro II 1024x768x16 drivers.
>
>Can anyone help me keep my mouse pointer in WINOS2?
>
>regards,
>Larry
>-- 
>Larry A. Shurr (las@cbnmva.att.com or att!cbnmva!las) speaking only for myself.
>EOR (end-of-ramble)

 Try turning off the video_switch_notification in the settings box. You will
have problems with the colors but you will have the pointer. We will just
have to live with it until the new SVGA drivers come out.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: "bill dehaan" <bill.dehaan@canrem.com>
Subject: ibm's new beta
Reply-To: "bill dehaan" <bill.dehaan@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 26 Sep 92 12:50:49 EST

In message <1992Sep22.200706.3938#bmerh85.bnr.ca>, mlord@bmers63.bnr.ca
(Mark Lord) writes:

BD>Yes. Unfortunately, they will not ship to Canada. To make a long story
BD>short, I called them today, and they told me to call IBM Canada. I did,

ML>Hmm.. Oh well.  From BNR, I dialled the USA 1-800-IBM-3040 number directly
ML>(the wonders of a global corporate network), and ordered it for shipment to
ML>my desk here in Ottawa.  No problem, though it has yet to arrive (Thursday
ML>or so would be about right).

Actually, you don't need to have a network to call 3040. The number will
work from any exchange. The problem is that the US division won't ship
to Canada, although apparently many of the operators are unaware of
this. The beta is not supported in Canada. If you get it, good luck, but
I would be surprised if it actually makes it to you. ;-(

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From: balesej@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Eric J Bales)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: On-the-fly disk compression yet?
Summary: Where?
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:04:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Cincinnati

Is on the fly disk compression available yet for OS/2 2.0?  Where?
How much does it cost?  Thanks for any information.

Is IBM considering putting their own disk compression system into OS/2
as was once rumored?

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From: cummins@a.cs.okstate.edu (CUMMINS JOHN WILLI)
Subject: Re: 3.5" beta disks-what if A: = 5.25"?
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 20:21:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.035244.25858@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>Is there any work-around to installing the beta on a system with
>the A: drive being 5.25"?  The beta comes on 3.5" diskettes ONLY.
>
>I fiddled with my BIOS - no luck there.  I looked at the cables from my
>drives in my computer, and they weren't compatible so I couldn't
>just switch them around.  Am I outta luck?

How do the "Twisted" floppy cables work?  It would seem that if setting the
two drives to ID 1 (I think that's factory stock) makes A appear as ID 1 and
B appear as ID 2, that setting them both to ID 2 would do the opposite.  (or
does that 4 wire twist mean that both would need to be set to ID 4?)

A "straight" floppy cable would simplify things in that it would allow you to
configure floppy ID's by just moving the jumpers on the drives.  Maybe that
would cause problems for the "local technician" who later cannibalizes your
machine....

jc
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