From: mills@uga.edu (Kathi Mills)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Only God Can Help Us!
Summary: She's certainly done a good job so far, right????
Date: 26 Aug 92 11:29:09 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

> Cameron Kaszas

>it is inconceivable TO ME that it is God's will for any abortion 
>to ever take place. 

Hmmm.  So, although god is all-knowing and all-powerful, and although
god had a plan for the world when it created it, and although god
"knew us before we were born," and its eye is even on the sparrow,
something CAN happen that is NOT god's will.  And, of course, that
just happens to be a procedure that saves the lives of thousands of
women in this country alone, that allows many men ad women to complete
their education, get a decent job, and be able to provide a real home
for the children they choose to have.  It also saves millions of childre
from short, miserable lives due to severe physical defects, poverty,
crime, drugs, and child abuse.  But of course your "loving" god opposes
it.

I'd say you're waking up to the real world.

>Now, my problem.  My closest friends, and even my wife, don't like
>my "new" views on this matter.   Since I deeply respect these people,
>and we stand side by side on most other matters, I am worried that
>I have somehow been led astray since stumbling onto this network,
>and being exposed to more secular/liberal/radical thought?  

Yeah, you're being corrupted by rational people.  We have this nasty
tendency to confuse the issues with facts.  You're welcome to join
the club - sounds like you may be on your way already.

>Can any of you pro-life Christians give me some reasons why I
>should be politically pro-life?  

Top Ten Reasons For Members of A Male-Dominated, Male-Worshipping
Religion to Oppose Abortion

1.  Abortion frees women from getting married because of pregnancy and
    thus deprives men of an easy way to capture domestic servants.
2.  Abortion allows many women to complete their college education,
    and thus realize that they don't have to be men's domestic servants.
3.  Abortion allows many women to keep and move up in their careers,
    thus freeing them from the necessity of relying on a man for money.
4.  Abortion provides sexually active women with total control over
    their reproductive destinies.
5.  Abortion provides rape victims with a way of escaping the additional
    torture of carrying her rapist's child to term.
6.  Abortion saves wome's lives.           
7.  Abortion ofte saves women's mental health.
8.  Abortion enables women to live free, independent lives, to have more
    of an opportunity to get involved with politics and move up the
    corporate ladder, evetually opening doors for other women and
    ultimately destroying men's straglehold on the money and power in
    this country.
9.  An abortion experience is often a woman's first contact with women
    who are independent and politically active, and such cotact may
    lead the woman to become empowered herself.
10. Abortion frees women from the possibility of becoming overburdened
    with unwanted children, and thus give up her job or education and
    become socially isolated, making her vulnerable to abuse and
    depriving her of the financial and emotional freedom to leave her SO.

>I believe God does want
>us out there doing everything we can to let people know that he created
>the z/e/f for a reason, 

Yep, sure did.  In my case, its reason was to make me risk death and
serious health problems with no resources whatsoever for health care,
lose my chance at a college education, force me onto welfare, and ruin
my SO's life as well.  

>and he will take care of everyone involved,

It would defiitely have taken care of me all right, when I hemmorrhaged
to death.

>and that his will is that every z/e/f to be 
>carried to term. 

Then why do 1/3 of all fertilized zygotes get flushed down the toilet
before the woman eve has a chance to get pious?  Sorry, I'm cofusing
the issues with facts again.

>I guess my main question is how does he want us to do this?  Should
>it be in our political agenda? 

If you really want to be effective, just round up all the women and
put them in a concetratio camp.  They can be concentrating on being
the walking incubators they really are.  Then you could make sure that
ot only does a woman not have any chance of getting an abortion, but
also she is mated with until she meets her rightful biological destiny,
and o pesky arguments about "not being in the mood."  I'm sure you
could read _The Handmaid's Tale_ for ideas.

-- 
"Republicans understand the importance of the bondage between parent and
child." - Dan Quayle at a GOP rally in Sept. '88 in Springfield, Illinois

Ferrari (mills@rolf.stat.uga.edu)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.abortion.inequity