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From: WHITESR@APPSTATE.EDU (Steve White)
Subject: Excel "progress" (Was:Excel 4.0 add-ins)
Organization: APPALACHIAN STATE UNIVERSITY
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 11:50:10 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <D2150050.cpupd0@nan.network-analysis-ltd.co.uk> sw@network-analysis-ltd.co.uk writes:
> In article <1673@sousa.ltn.dec.com> (comp.sys.mac.apps), long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long) writes:
> >  Some things I wish they had done:
> >  ...
> >  Otherwise, I like Excel pretty well, but I think the add-in stuff could use
> >  some polish.
> Not just the add-in stuff. Excel 4.0 will not open two files with the
> same name even if they are in two different folders. It even tells you so
> in the help window. Is my memory playing tricks on me or has it been about
> 6 years since the Mac OS introduced HFS?

I have a hunch that the Windows market is driving "progress" in Excel
development -- isn't Windows where the big money is for MS? Why else would
the display under the Window menu still be limited to 9 windows? Mac
users, I suspect, commonly work with more than 9 windows whereas most
Windows users probably do not. Admittedly, however, I am speculating.
In any event, I had to spend many, many hours developing a macro system 
for "menuing," navigating, and managing more than 9 windows.

As an aside, wouldn't it be nice to have the full use of Excel drawing 
tools on Excel charts?

Steve
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>
Subject: Re: BBEdit question
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 11:10:56 EDT
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
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In article <1992Sep15.143237.8735@cs.yale.edu> Edward Keegan,
keegan-edward@cs.yale.edu writes:
>I used the patcher on BBedit 2.1.3 and see no results, still no
>as-you-type word wrapping nor is the little icon mentioned in
>the patcher displayed although it says it patched the file successfully.
>Does the patcher need to be udated for 2.1.3?

No, the patcher was written for 2.1.3. I had the same problem and traced
it to the fact that I had changed the appearance of my menu bars using
ClickChange; putting BBEdit on the ClickChange exception list cured the
problem, displaying the icon in the proper spot.

If you're not using ClickChange, perhaps you're using something else to
modify the appearance of the menu borders?

Jeff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: WriteNow 3.0
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:50:24 GMT

jhi@netcom.com (John Im) writes:
>In article <15983.2AAE8B8D@zeus.ieee.org> Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart) writes:
>>I'd try to find a copy of 2.2 that somebody doesn't use anymore.  The
>>differences between 2.2 and 3.0 were not worth the upgrade fee - or the wait.
>That's an interesting observation.  Personally, I found the upgrade more
>than worth the money.  For one thing, 3.0 is 32-bit clean, which means I
>can actually use it under System 7.  Even if you don't use sys7, the new
>Paragraph and Character Style Sheets are absolutely the BEST I've seen in
>any word processor (I've used most of them).  Color support is also nice,
>so that I can mark sections in different colors for later review.
>Getting back to the original question, are you looking for a full-featured
>program comparable to Word?  If so, take a look at the full version of NISUS.
>It's got some very powerful tools but is fairly easy to use.  It's also
>pretty fast, since it works in RAM.  If you don't need all those features,
>either NISUS Compact or WriteNow 3.0 would be a good choice.
>- John
Yes the WriteNow style sheets are much better and easier to use than any
other, especially Words.  I was under the impression that at least the original
version of Nisus Compact did not have a spellchecker-that it was an extra cost
item.  This to me is an unforegivable sin on the part of paragon.
-Terry
From: ra_novy@DAL.MOBIL.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: TheNews & HP Print Monitor: Conflict?
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:30:54 GMT

I'm curious as to whether anyone else has had symptoms of some sort of memory
conflict between TheNews and HP's Print Monitor.

Sometimes, I'll queue a print job to my DeskWriter and then fire up TheNews. 
After reading a few articles (or perhaps when the print job is terminating), I
begin to get complaints from TheNews about it running out of memory. This
happens with both v2.1 and v2.2 of TheNews (which is a fine news reader
otherwise!)  The complaints continue even after the print job is done and the
HP Print Monitor has quit.  Complaints from TheNews happen at no other time.

I use a IIci with System 7, with some tune-up, with 32-bit addressing on, and
with virtual memory off.

Anyone else's HP Print Monitor stepping on the toes of TheNews?

Bob Novy
ra_novy@dal.mobil.com
Dallas, TX

If it's "needless to say,"  don't say it!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: sunnyt@coding.bchs.uh.edu
Subject: RAM disk for system 7?
Reply-To: ln63sdm@sdcc4.ucsd.edu
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:37:05 GMT


Is there a ram disk program like 'Ram Disk+' or a new version of 'Ram Disk+'  
that works with system 7.  If there is one, is it commercial, shareware, or  
freeware??  I can't get 'Ram Disk+' (can't remember which verion, but its kind  
of old) to run on my IIsi with system 7.  Any information will be greatly  
appreciated. Thanx!!

sunnyt@dna.bchs.uh.edu
From: hopper@cs.ucsd.edu (Steve Hopper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: TapeFile -- Need company name
Date: 11 Sep 92 05:40:09 GMT
Distribution: na

Does anyone know who produces TapeFile, a program which renders a 
tape device into a disk volume on the desktop?


thanx,
     -=STeve=-


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: loomis@milton.u.washington.edu (Elaine Loomis)
Subject: Re: Quadra 950 compatibility fun and games
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:38:24 GMT

paulr@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Paul Russell) writes:

>Is there anyone who has recently upgraded to a Quadra (in particular a 950)
>and would like to compare notes ? So far I've had problems with:

>  TMON Pro (waiting for a response from ICOM tech support)
>  Excel 3.0 (freezes when opening or saving files)
>  Nisus 3.06 (I believe there's an upgrade for 040 machines)

>Most other stuff appears to work OK but I'd be interested to
>hear of any other known compatibility problems.

>//Paul

>-- 
>| Paul Russell              | "Some instructions have legal operation codes |
>| Experimental Psychology   |  but try to perform nonsensical operations.   |
>| Sussex University, Falmer |  These are called insane instructions."       |
>| Brighton BN1 9QG, England |             -- Motorola DSP 56k User's Manual |

Out of curiousity --- have you contacted the Tech support lines for each
program (e.g. Microsoft for Excel, etc.), and if so, what has the response
been?
								EL
From: cromwell@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Freeware Screen Saver (AutoIdle)
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:20:45 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <168629AD2.DOBENSON@ua1vm.ua.edu>, DOBENSON@ua1vm.ua.edu (Joe Demon) writes:
> In article <1992Sep10.034446.15868@samba.oit.unc.edu>
> Rick.Igou@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Rick Igou) writes:

>>Try AutoIdle. It's *absolutely* free, takes a miniscule amount of memory,
>>and is elegantly simple.

>    Yow! Be careful with AutoIdle. I tried it this weekend on a Mac 512
> w/System 4.1 and it destroyed the System disk. I tried it on my Mac SE
> with System 6.07, and it locked up the computer in a bad way. I still
> have not figured out what is wrong (probably an init incompatibility),
> but I have gone back to Morie (sp?).

I've used autoidle on both those machines and a Classic with no
problems.  Init conflict maybe?  I still use autoidle, because it
doesn't interupt whats going on behind and its very small!
-- 
Rick
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 10 Sep 1992 15:09:30 MST
From: <IGMJG@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Need Advice on OCR software
Distribution: na

George,

It is my understanding that Omnipage Professional is a stand-alone application
while OmniPage direct functions as a desk accessory or extension (and is geared
for use with the Typist from Caere).

One word of caution about Omnipage Pro though...I recently purchased a HP
Scanjet //c that was bundled with a "try me" version of Omnipage Professional.
It looked real pretty, but bombed every time I tried to scan a document. When I
called Caere's tech support line, I found that this "unimplemented trap" error
was present both in the "try me" and actual sale version of the software. The
only way around this, apparently, is to turn on virtual memory. I have 20mb of
RAM and pointed out that if I turned on virtual memory, I would be wasting
about 21 megabytes of hard disk space. The woman I talked to seemed rather
unsympathetic: when I asked her if Caere planned to address this problem with a
real fix, she answered with a plain and curt "no." I have since abandoned any
desire to buy Omnipage Pro because of this.

I believe Calera is offering Wordscan for the Macintosh for $149 (with a 30-day
moneyback guarantee). You need to call them directly.
From: a-kraus@uiuc.edu (Albert L. Kraus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: shareware to install cyberport desk
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:24:39 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: PES

I could not install the Cyberport desktop with my shareware desktop util.
Please give me the name of a shareware desktop util to install Cyberport.
Send me email or post here.

Thanks!
Have a nice day!
From: huddler@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (Gil Kasparek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: HELP: How do I create a Postscript file for use in all programs?
Summary: Want to use Adobe Illustrator to create generic files
Keywords: postscript, clip art
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:52:12 GMT
Expires: 30 Sep 92 04:00:00 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA


I'd like to create and post some EPS clip-art using Adobe Illustrator. I want
the files to be EPS files that can be opened into either Illustrator OR
Freehand, or imported into other softwares. Is there a way to make a file
cross-compatible between these two programs?

Gil Kasparek
HUDDLER@VTTCF.CC.VT.EDU
From: bruck@mathj.usc.edu (Ronald Bruck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Re: Wanted: System 7 compatible McSink
Date: 4 Sep 1992 15:25:54 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mathj.usc.edu

In article <15870.2AA69A6E@zeus.ieee.org> Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart) writes:
>Preferred Publishers admits that Vantage 1.6.1 is NOT system 7 compatible -
>that's one of the things they plan on providing in 2.0.  They are closer than
>you suggest to a release of 2.0 - I just got a card in the mail about it.  The 
>developer has had a few problems with system 7, but it sounds like it'll be
>pretty soon.

(.sig omitted)

Are you sure that Vantage 1.6.1 isn't system 7 compatible?  I use it all
the time, and it has never crashed on me.  (Unlike just about any other
program I have...)

I haven't seen the article you apparently refer to; what problems have
people noticed?  I have 20MB RAM, a Mac II with Daystar 50MHZ board, a
Spectrum 8*24 PDQ board, an HP Paintjet, and a 520MB Fujitsu drive hanging
off a QuickSCSI card--and if anything CAN crash, it seems to do it in
this environment.  (Oh, yes--and many, many system extensions.)  It's
strange that Vantage works so well.

--Ron Bruck
bruck@mtha.usc.edu preferred
From: rgarza@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Brad Spachman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: INIT Icons
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:40:09 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Northwestern University

I have recently been creating a custom startup screen for use on my SE/30. 
However, saving it in StartupScreen format and placing it in the system
folder ruins it because of the startup icons for all my INITs.  All the
icons that could be turned off have been, but there are still a few that
appear (namely Disinfectant, MODE32, and ATM).  I've used ResEdit to edit
the BNDL resources in each of the offending INITS in order to delete the
icons.  It was also necessary to go into the ICON resource for MODE32 and
ATM to get the icons deleted.  This hasn't caused any strange problems yet
(like the desktop icons disappearing), so so far, so good.

What I want to know is if this is actually a safe way to go about removing
the offending icons.  If it is, then how do I get rid of the annoying beeps
that  occur during startup (I think it's some error beep saying that the
INIT cannot find the correct resource).  If it isn't safe, does anyone have
a better solution?

Brad Spachman
c/o rgarza@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
"I go to pieces so fast, people get hit by the shrapnel"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Subject: Re: Disinfectant 3.0: Next Virus Out...
Reply-To: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:21:27 GMT

In article <khaw.715977499@parcplace.com> khaw@parcplace.com (Mike Khaw) writes:
>In <1685C1350.AVERNON1@ua1vm.ua.edu> AVERNON1@ua1vm.ua.edu (Andrew Vernon) writes:
>
>>I'm not sure what Disinfectant lacks that would need to go into Version 3
>>besides maybe an Apple Event here-and-there. The interface is clean and
>
>I'll also add my appreciation for John Norstad's work and service
>to all Mac users in developing and giving away Disinfectant.

Very definitely.  I never thought I'd post a "Me Too" message, but
oh well... :-)

Disinfectant has combatted and cured no less than 3 different Mac
systems that I know of (including my own!).

Thanks to John Norstad and the shadowy Internet group behind the
creation of Disinfectant.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: jasonh@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Jason Haines)
Subject: Contact for SpeedyFinder7
Organization: Federation of Planets
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 16:09:43 GMT

All bug reports, comments, etc. on SpeedyFinder7 can be mailed to me:

jasonh@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU

and I will forward them to Victor Tan, the author, on a daily basis.


Jason Haines - System Operator, MacInTouch BBS (02) 743-5997 (TeleFinder)
jasonh@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU
_______________________________________________________________________________
-- 
Jason Haines - System Operator, MacInTouch BBS (02) 743-5997 (TeleFinder)
jasonh@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU
_______________________________________________________________________________
From: mpradhan@medicine.adelaide.edu.au (Malcolm Pradhan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Likewise net software from Apple
Date: 9 Sep 92 08:35:04 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Medicine, University of Adelaide
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X-XXDate: Wed, 9 Sep 92 02:09:31 GMT


 I read that Apple have released a network updating program for
maintaining computers in labs etc. I think it was called "Likewise". The
thing that stood out was that it was reasonably priced with unlimited
clients.

Has anyone played with it? Is it much different to the numerous other
[expensive] network update packages around? 

Regards,
 Malcolm
_________________________________________________________________
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    Medical Computing, Faculty of Medicine         _--_|\
    University of Adelaide, South Australia       /      \
    InterNet: mpradhan@medicine.adelaide.edu.au   \_.--x_/
    Fax: +618 223 2076  :x marks the spot:              v
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: ray@skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov (Jeff Ray)
Subject: open 'About...' at startup?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: NASA (Dryden)/Woodside Summit
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:15:30 GMT

Some time ago someone posted (and I'm not even sure to which group) a
little app that used AppleEvents to open the "About This Macintosh..."
box, then quit.  The intent was to drop it into the Startup Items
folder, so the box would open at startup.

Unfortunately, I neglected to grab it when it was available, expecting
it to show up at Sumex later.  No such luck.  Could someone please
email it to me?  I'd be ever so thankful.

Jeff Ray <ray@skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov>
Woodside/NASA Dryden
Irritant-at-Large
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: scasterg@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stuart M Castergine)
Subject: Re: BBEdit question
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 00:28:18 GMT

In article <14SEP199216050129@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov> kayser@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Susan E. Kayser NSSDC/STX (301)513-1673) writes:
>In article <15429@umd5.umd.edu>, bwilliam@oyster.smcm.edu (Bill Williams) writes...
>>Oh BBEdit experts:  is there some way to get BBEdit to wrap text
>>automatically, that is, as I type it in?  Right now I get everything on
>>one looong line, which makes it quite dffclt to read.  Or am I just
>>supposed to type carriage returns, like on a typewriter?  I'm afraid
>>I've gotten too used to  Microsoft WORD, and old habits die hard.
>
>The latest version of BBEdit, 2.1.3, has a wrap feature.  You set it in 
>Preferences, from the File menu. You can set for the Philip bar, the window 
>width, or a fixed number of characters.  (Question:  what's a Philip bar?)

But that still doesn't type as you wrap, you have to manually invoke
the wrap, which is very intrusive.

Fortunately, there is a little program out now, archived at sumex as

/info-mac/util/word-wrap-patch.hqx

that patches BBEdit to do as-you-type word-wrapping. It's not the most
elaborate implementation, but it infinitely better than nothing.



-- 
scasterg@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu -- Stuart M. Castergine
Fiver: "Oh, Hazel, look! The field! It's covered with blood!"
Hazel: "Don't be silly, it's only the light of the sunset." -- Watership Down
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.apps:14321 comp.sys.mac.misc:16239 comp.sys.mac.comm:8812 comp.sys.mac.system:11747 comp.os.mach:1213
From: jgrape@coos.dartmouth.edu (Johan A. Grape)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.os.mach
Subject: MachTen users - look here
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:53:13 GMT
Distribution: w
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Originator: jgrape@coos.dartmouth.edu


	

	If you are a Tenon MachTen user, please send me an
	e-mail message.  (If you know someone who uses it, make
	them e-mail me.)

	I am looking to start a mailing list.  If you already know
	of one (other than the one maintained by tenon) please tell me.

	Thanks
	Johan

	jgrape@coos.darmouth.edu
From: banks@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Word Font Display (was MS Word)
Date: 9 Sep 92 08:41:48 GMT
Organization: ISCA

IN an article 'butscher@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Adrian Butscher)'
writes:

>Is it me, or does MS Word 5.0 display fonts a little strangely? Let me be
>specific.  When I open a new document, I use Palatino as default font (this
>problem happens with a lot of other fonts as well).  Word seems to space
>letters badly.  The e will be too close to the a, leaving a big gap on the other side
>of the e, for instance.  When I view documents converted from MS Word 4, this
>doesn't happen.  Could someone out there reply to me about this problem - it's
>pretty annoying?

It is annoying!  Go to the 'page setup' command in the 'edit' menu.  If the
check-box marked 'fractional widths' is checked, uncheck it (and, for good
measure, check the 'use as a default' box, to stop it happening again).
Your document should now look as nature/God/you intended it.

Marcus Banks, Oxford
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: patrick@tpki.toppoint.de (Patrick Exner)
Subject: ##Something like MacInUse fro Sys7 Wanted!##
Organization: Toppoint Mailbox e.V.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:44:51 GMT
Keywords: help, management, time, acess


I am looking for an app like MacInUse.
MacIUnUse is a great app which records the time you (or the people working
in your company) are working on documents and programs. At the end of the
day you can see, which work was done in which time. Its also possible
to type comments to your documents.
The developer (and the distributor) of MacInUse seemed to be disappeared
from the planet. So there is no version running under System 7.
Can some give me a hint?
Is there an app like MacInUse running under System 7?

Please mail to:
patrick@tpki.toppoint.de

thanks...
-- 
Patrick Exner		patrick@tpki.toppoint.de
2300 Kiel
From: sandy@beeker.cs.umass.edu (Sandy Wise)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Logitech Scanman software info requested
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:06:46 GMT
Reply-To: wise@cs.umass.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Organization?  I thought entropy would take care of that...
In-reply-to: micross@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu's message of 6 Sep 92 17:20:00 GMT

In article <Bu62u3.7uA@acsu.buffalo.edu> micross@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
   (Ross A Winston) writes:

   Does anyone know if Logitech has come out with Scanman software
   that is compatible with System 7?  When I purchased the
   Scanman/Digital Darkroom bundle last year, it came with an app that
   would only run under System 6.  They included a little slip saying
   that a System 7 version would be out soon.  I would like to use
   such an application instead of Digital Darkroom because I usually
   scan in straight b/w and don't want to mess around with
   dithering/etc.  Has anybody heard from Logitech or seen a system 7

I have been using 'ScanMan 2.1' that a Logitech rep handed me at
MacWorld last year with System 7 without any problems...
        /s
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/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ WISE@CS.UMASS.EDU /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: joel@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com (Joel S Noble)
Subject: Looking for Mac _3D_ Lsystem program
XXXDate: Sat, 10 Oct 92 18:27:50 GMT
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Date: 10 Sep 92 17:27:56 GMT



Some time ago on some FTP site I found a 3D lsystem program for the mac
that was very nice, exported to DXF and other standard formats for
rendering and frobbing.  Unfortunately, I have lost my copy and it's not
on _any_ of the standard ftp sites. (sumex, umich).

Pointers?

jsn