From: pelegrin@brol.greco-prog.fr (Francois PELLEGRINI)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Guns, and the necessity to trust our governement.
Date: 11 Sep 92 09:25:10 GMT
Organization: GRECO Programmation du CNRS - Bordeaux,France

In article <92252.175953MGB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, MGB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
|> In article <1992Sep7.091223.17271@greco-prog.fr>, pelegrin@brol.greco-prog.fr
|> (Francois PELLEGRINI) says:

|> >        There are organizations like Interpol to do that. By acting like this,
|> >the U.S. acts just as a terrorist nation.

|> >        Yo! Wanna bite, young puppy? If you want to play this game, let me
|> >cast upon you the terrible word: VIETNAM!!!!
|> >Sure that the GREAT US ARMY, with so powerful weapons, did much better
|> >than nothing by killing more civilians than opponents. I know, from an
|> >helicopter, riflemen could not know who were these little ants moving on the
|> >ground... Rather than handling a real battle, it is better to bomb blindly
|> >and safely from a B52...
|> >        Americans tend to rely on technique; that's why their minds are not
|> >as developped as their weapons.

|> >        I have nothing against American guys in general, but this stupid one
|> >deserved this lesson...

|> This country lost the Vietnam War due to the micromanaging of a lot of Liberal
|> Politcritters who were still looking for a massive victory for "world socialism
|> ", what was the reason that France got so soundly trounced by Viet Nam.

	And the U.S. were engaged in the war by the micro-managing of many
defense contractors happy to sell their stuff... Micro-managing was very
trendy, these days... What are you micro-managing to prove?
	By the way, I am surprised that MacCarthysm left so many "liberal
politcritters" in operation. Or maybe people voted for them?

|> It must be a really bummer to always be an also ran in world affairs.  Not only
|> did this country pull France's bacon out of the fire in WWI, WWII, and the
|> cold war with Russia, but now Germany is running the show in Europe leaving
|> France to the dust bin of history. I hope that when it's this countrys  turn
|> to become a second world nation, that we don't wear our sackcloth as badly
|> as so many of the French do.  Have you learned to speak German yet ???

	No, I'm too busy learning spanish: had I to travel to the U.S.A., I want
to be understood...
	

	To conclude, and as people answered to my posting by pointing out
the case of the French at Dien Bien Phu, I would say that the original goal
of my posting was to show that no army is invincible, as different situations
must be handled differently. As an example, in Vietnam, the U.S. army, as well
as the French, have not been able to adapt to the guerilla war techniques leaded
by the Viet Minh, and lost.
	In some U.S. states, it could be called "military Darwinism", and in
others "God wanted our defeat because we were too stupid".

	My flaming of the guy was just an amusing by-product...

					f.p.
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