From:  (martino@courier6.aero.org(Nick Martino))
Subject: Re: Club Raise
Followup-To: rec.games.bridge
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:30:36 GMT

In article <1d3skaINNcr6@agate.berkeley.edu>, grove@triangle.Berkeley.EDU
(Eddie Grove) wrote:
> 
> 
> This question is inspired by (b) in the Bridge World November MSC:
> 
> Pard  You
> 1D    2C
> 3C    3S
> 3N
> 
> Is partner supposed to raise 3S to 4S when holding 4 spades?

On this auction, 3S could show a 4-card suit or may show a stopper, looking
for the best game.  Still,	it's hard to construct a hand for "pard" with 4
spades, 4+ Diamonds and (probably) 4 Clubs which would have any other
choice but to raise.  Perhaps with something like xxxx/AQ/Kxxx/AJx pard
should bid 3NT (I would have bid 2NT over 2C).

> 
> 
> Playing 15-17 NT, 2/1 style, what does partner have?  Could it be
> 
> x,QJx,KQxxx,AQxx (splinter?)  <--- No, should have splintered
> x,QJx,Kxxxx,AQxx (open?)      <--- Possible
> x,QJxx,KQxxx,AQx              <--- Bid 2H, not 3C (depends on system*)
> x,QJxx,KQxx,AQxx              <--- Splinter
> xx,QJx,KQxxx,AQx              <--- Possible		
> xx,QJx,KQxx,AQxx              <--- Possible
> xx,QJxx,KQxx,AQx              <--- 2H on last round
> xx,Kx,KQxxx,AQxx              <--- Possible
> xxx,Kx,KQxx,AQxx              <--- Possible
> xxx,Kx,KQxxx,AQx              <--- Possible
> 

*If you're playing 2/1 ABSOLUTELY game forcing, it makes more sense to
shape out, biddding a reasonable 4-card major rather than raising on
three-card support.  Playing that either a reverse or a splinter shows
extras, virtually all of the above hands are possible.

> These are full openers.  Does it make any difference if the DKQ is
> changed to DAx or DKx?
> 
Generally no, except that the balanced and semi-balanced hands given above
might not be opened, depending on partnership style.  I would not be
opening 1D on xxx/Kx/Kxxx/AQxx if the x's are truly small spots. 

> or maybe s/he has more:
> 
> x,QJx,AKxxx,AQxx (splinter?)
> x,QJxx,AKxxx,AQx (reverse?)
> xx,Kx,AKxxx,AQxx (jump raise?)
> 
> 
> So what hands are possible?  Which hands, if any, are a raise to 3C, but then
> should not bid 3N over 3S?
>

All of the hands above should bid 3NT, given the previous auction.  3NT
simply shows a Heart stopper and an interest to play there.
 
> I would think opener's rebid in an uncontested auction should be a system 
> question, not a scoring question.  Shows what I know.  Are any answers 
> different at matchpoints vs rubber?
> 
 
Who said it was a scoring question ?   I suppose there are some hands where
the scoring would affect partner's decision over 3S on the given auction
(e.g., xx/Ax/Kxxxx/AQxx).   Certainly, the rebids over 2C are systemic.



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