From: vlad@erg.sri.com (vlad)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Listen Up, Bobby Bashers
Keywords: bobby, champ
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:59:52 GMT
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA

To all those Andy-bashers: here is a response. Andy is right.

In article <1992Oct13.230901.5858@athena.mit.edu> tafrakes@athena.mit.edu (T. Andy Frakes) writes:

>Anyone who knows anything about chess and Bobby knows who
>the real champ is.  These two piddly K-dudes are totally
>outclassed in chess ability. 

True. Andy is the real champ.

 One of the reasons Bobby quit
>chess is out of boredom.  It takes a lot of fun out of the
>game when no one out there can give you a good mental work-
>out.  Before he quit, he had nothing else to prove.  He was
>the best and he knew it. 

Yes. In fact I suggest that every team that wins the Superbowl from now on,
should be forced to retire. They have nothing to prove. They are the best
and they should know it.

The only way he can even give himself a decent
>challenge is to give every one 20 years to catch up and come
>out of retirement as a 50 year old man.  He hasn't even had
>time to oil all his rusty joints yet and he's STILL mowing
>down the competition.  

Yes, he sure showed that perky 60-year-old retired bed-ridden Spassky that
he, Fischer, is clearly one of the top thousand players in the World.

>If Kasparov or any other contemporary
>players had done the same thing, they'd be getting pummelled at
>this very moment.

Very true. If Kasparov quit for 20 years, then came out of retirement and
claimed that he still was the World Champ and palyed a 60-year-old cripple
and called it "World championship", he surely had been pummelled by his own
friends and relatives.

>  Of course, any other player wouldn't be
>getting $5M to play a match like this.  

This even beats the purse for the latest Pro Wrestling matchup between Hulk
Hogan and Andrei the Giant! Fischer is great! And rich!

>With this 20-year
>absence from the game, he's effectively playing with half his
>brain tied behind his back

True. That's what they do to patients of mental institutions: tie their
brains behind their backs.

>There wouldn't be any controversy over who is the champ if
>Kasparov would just be a man and quit ducking Bobby. 

True. Very few people know it but in reality it is KASPAROV who has been
avoiding competition for the last 20 years, while Fischer has been playing
against the very best all the time. 

> Bobby's
>willing to let Kasparov take his best shot at the champ if he
>wants, but he keeps hiding behind the Candidates' Matches that
>everyone knows Bobby has no intention of wasting his valuable
>time with.  People are willing to pay a lot more money to see
>the REAL champ play.

Very true. As a matter of fact, hte same holds true in boxing. Mohammed Ali
is still the World Champ there. He can beat anybody. The only problem is
that in order to fight, he ahs to waste his valuable time.

>if nobody is playing or interested.  Bobby increased interest in
>chess far more than Kasparov. 

Yes. Maybe not in Moscow, Russia but in Kalamazoo, Indiana definetely. And
anybody living outside of Kalamazoo is not a human and does not count.

> Suppose (strictly for argument's
>sake) that Kasparov had found all kinds of theoretical
>novelties and eventually solved chess, but the chessplaying
>population doesn't really go anywhere because he doesn't create
>any excitement about the game.  Then, suppose Bobby doesn't make
>any contributions to theory, but creates a world craze out of the
>game.  Who, then, has made the best contribution to chess?  It's
>a rhetorical question, but I'll answer it for you anyway (all the
>sane people please excuse me)....the answer is Bobby, of course.

We, the sane people, excuse you gladly. We also excuse Bobby. You are
innocent by reasons of ... you know. In any case, it is indeed a pleasure
to meet a live person who admits that he enjoys "circus frieks" more that
real talent. So, you really think that if, say, a physisist creates a "a world craze"
among th e"Natinal Enquirer" readers by doing something weird (say, expose
himself in public), then he is more valuable to physics than Einstein? Brilliant!

>It's been a long time coming, but I'm glad Bobby finally came out
>of retirement to remind the rest of the world where the best chess
>is really played....The United States of America. 

Yes, we Russian immigrants have REALLY increased the strength of chess in
the US! 

> Some of the
>other countries may have more and better chumps than the US, but
>there is only one CHAMP and that's Bobby -- made in the USA. 

And he will remain Champ even after death. In fact, we should declare Bobby
"The Ultimate Champ" and forbid others to play chess from now on!

>-- 
>T. Andy Frakes (tafrakes@athena.mit.edu)

Way to go, Andy! You made my day.

Vlad

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