From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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Subject: Re: Because, no Turk left alive in x-Soviet Armenia (not a single one).
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 23:58:14 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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In article <1992Dec14.142805.25966@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger) writes:

>Remember -- Argic is a computer program.  It can keep up this crap
>endlessly if we let it.  If we just ignore its racist claims, it should
>shut up -- it will have nothing to respond to.

On the Black Sea shores of Turkiye people tell the following story:
A fumingly furious gorilla of a man enters a garden restaurant full
of people and asks: 'Which of you here is Schuerzinger'? A puny
little man says that he is Schuerzinger. The big man grabs him, beats
him to a pulp, kicks him, slaps him, throws him to the ground and 
leaves the restaurant. While everyone watches this terrible event,
the little man slowly and painfully manages to sit up on the floor.
He difficultly shows some sort of a smile on his bloody face and
says: 'Ha! ha! I cheated him, I am not Schuerzinger, I got him!'

I am reminded of this story whenever I read your drivel. Anyway, it 
can be observed that the Russian army officers who had invaded eastern 
Anatolia and who had provoked, encouraged and armed the Armenians were 
disgusted, embarrassed and shocked by the genocide of the innocent and 
defenseless Muslims since the men were fighting at the fronts. The 
historical documents mirror the facts.


According to Dikran Kevorkyan (Secretary General of the Armenian Patriarchal
Board of Consultation, Turkey):[1]

"The Armenians started rebellions to establish an independent state within
 the Ottoman Empire between 1878 and 1915, cooperated with the Russians in
 Eastern Anatolia behind the Turkish lines, caused great damage to the
 Ottoman armies and threatened the security of the region."

"It is also historical fact that carts had to go over the ice which covered
 the bodies of tens of thousands of Turkish soldiers frozen to death in the
 east of Anatolia, because their supply lines had been cut off by the 
 Armenians."

"Some of the enheartened Armenians armed themselves, worked for the
 Russian army especially cutting off the Turkish military supply lines,
 and, when they found the courage, committed incredible atrocities,
 murders, intimidation and forced deportation against the Turks, with whom
 they had lived together in peace for hundreds of years."

[1] Dikran Kevorkyan, "International Terrorism and the Drug Connection," 
    Ankara University Press, 1984, pp. 95-102. 


    "Mass Grave of Turks Massacred by Armenians Discovered"

Kahramanmaras, AA - Historians discovered that Armenians killed and buried
100 Turks in the township of Andirin and 300 Turks in the township of Geben
during Armenian riots in Southeastern province of Kahramanmaras.

Historian Cezmi Yurtsever was working on a documentary film on Armenian
barbarism in Kandirin when he discovered the mass grave and what is now
called Martyrs Valley where also assassinated Turks were buried collectively.

The historical story is that Zeytun Armenians raided Kandirin and
killed 100 Turks including the town's magistrate Abaza Durdu Bey.

Durdu Bey's grandson Adil Kayran (70) recounted the incident saying that 
after the Armenian atrocity in which 100 Turks perished, his grandfather
Durdu Bey fled to the hills and hid himself behind barbed wires on the 
hill. But Sarkiz, an Armenian working as a clerk with Durdu Bey, tipped
the Armenians off about his whereabouts and Armenians found him and
executed him by shooting. Durdu Bey's guard Cerkez Yusuf Cavus was skinned
alive by Armenians.

Historians working on the documentary film also discovered that Armenians
raided other towns and villages in Kahramanmaras at the time and killed
and buried in the death valley around 300 Turks. 

Ahmet Kaya, an eye witness of historical events but now dead for 30 years,
had recounted the incidents saying that Turks killed and thrown in the
valley by Armenians numbered more than 300.


Source: Documents: Volume I (1919).
        "Document No: 42," Archive No: 1-2, Cabin No: 110, Drawer 
        No: 1(4), File No: 373, Section No: 1484(1032), Contents No: 9, 9-1.
        (To the Office of Acting Supreme Commander - Acting Assistant
        Section Director Major Ali Sukru)

"It is sufficient to mention just some of the terrible and shameful crimes
 committed only in Erzurum to get an idea about the Armenian atrocities
 in the villages...

 I would also like to mention with disgust and abominable sight, a stain
 on humanity, that I encountered at the west of Hasankale while my regiment
 was proceeding into this town. There was a young Turkish women, apparently
 once a very beautiful one, lying dead on one side of the road. A huge
 stick had been inserted into her vagina. We took the corpses and left it
 at a spot that was invisible from the road..."
 
Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)

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