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From: Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disneyana - Ride Line Lengths
Distribution: world
Date: 8 Nov 92 13:17:08 CST
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

Even though it is dated information, the following might help those
who are going to Walt Disney World in an off-season.  Here are three
line length examples from when we were there during the week of
September 21, 1992, for the Disneyana convention:
 
Star Tours: 10 minute line on Monday 9/21 at 12:15 PM.
 
Splash Mountain: 25 minute line on Sunday 9/20 at 4:30 PM
                 10 minute line on Sunday 9/20 at 8:45 PM (when the
                    park closed at 9PM).
 
Pirates of the Caribbean: Walked right in -- no line, on Sunday 9/20
                 at 8:30 PM (after SpectroMagic ended at the hub, but
                 before it ended in Frontierland).

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From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: Minnie Mouse Watch
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:51:07 GMT

Today I went into a local Pawn Shop looking for rare Disney stuff and
I came across an OLD Minnie Mouse watch...

It was a lady's watch with a steel stretch band.  The face had Minnie
in a polka dot skirt and her arms kept the time, with red gloves.  It
said "Minnie Mouse" around her head and "Swiss Made" along the bottom.
They were asking $35.00 for it...The clear plastic on the face was a
little yellow and they said it lost 3 minutes/day, but I could get it
cleaned, etc... 

Without sending me to the mall, has anyone seen a watch like this in
the Disneyana book, and if yes, is it a bargain at that price.

Thanks -


Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
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From: evanh@sco.COM (Evan Hunt)
Subject: Aladdin song question (was Re: Question for Denise)
Organization: Stan's Chosen Ones
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:29:10 GMT


Don't blame me, I voted for mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu (Denise "Apple Lady" Lockner).
>"Life is your restaurant,
>And I'M YOUR MAITRE' D!!
>Tell me what it is you want,
>You ain't NEVER had a friend like me!!"  -Genie

What I'm wondering is, were these lyrics written by Ashman?  And does
anyone else hear echoes of "FEED ME!" in there?  :)

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prequel, waitron, infotainment, junk bond, supersaver, sound bite, HIV, wide-
bodied, stun gun, talking head, laptop, leveraged buyout, women's studies.
From: abmbca@icarus.lbl.gov (Andy Megowan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Black Cauldron
Date: 10 Nov 1992 09:38:51 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley
Reply-To: abmbca@icarus.lbl.gov (Andy Megowan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.154

In article <40812@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> cs64fad@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook) writes:
[MASSIVE STUFF DELETED]

>TBC was a financial embarassment if anything.  The story, well, it
>does have something.  The animation was very lavish, as far as I can
>remember--nothing to be ashamed about.  I agree, it really didn't seem
>like a Disney movie.
>
>
>- Robert Cook

I'm not sure how well known this is, but The Black Cauldron was VERY
well received in Japan.  In fact, the walk-through Castle Attraction
(I forget the castle's name) culminates in a conflict between some
hapless park patron and the Horned King himself, rising QUITE
magnificently from behind a HUGE black cauldron and bringing several
skeletons scattered on the ground to life.  The effects were quite
impressive and the Horned King is vanquished by the tourist, who is
holding the sword Dyrnwyn that glows and shimmers when pointed at the
Horned King.

This was enough to make ME want to find a copt of TBC.

--Andy
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From: edison@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Thomas Matthew Callen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Corporate lounges at EPCOT
Date: 6 Nov 1992 18:46:42 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu


The Living Seas exhibit at EPCOT has a corporate lounge for employees
of United Technologies companies.  The lounge offers a relaxing place
to unwind after fighting the EPCOT crowds all day.  Coffee and other
drinks are available to the guests as well as a large television and the
many couches that line the lounge.  When the guests are ready to enter the
attraction, the receptionist leads them into the first room of the exhibit
before the outside crowd enters the building.  It sure beats standing in
line for an hour.  The entrance to the lounge, if I can remember--it has
been a while since I have been to EPCOT, is right before the entrance to
the Living Seas restaurant, which by the way is an excellent restaurant.


-- 
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  EDISON@matt.ksu.ksu.edu                     ECCLESIASTES 7:5
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From: greg@acme.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: <None>
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:44:52 PST

In article <Bx3zrJ.D5x@kathunk.phaedrav.on.ca>, nigel@kathunk.phaedrav.on.ca (Nigel M Burnett) writes:
> jodi.weber (jweber@cbnewsg.cb.att.com) wrote:
> : 
> : Two questions, however:  first, I was not able to find out the year in which  
> : Sorcerer's apprentice was composed
> 
> Well, I searched a bit and cannot find out the date of the composition.
> However, it was first performed in 1897 and generally, music is performed
> publicly quite soon after it's finished.  I would infer that the date
> of its composition was also 1897.  Based on a work by Goethe, it was
> very popular and put Paul Dukas 'on the charts' so to speak.

Are we all talking about the same piece?  I could have sworn that the
"making of" tape that comes with the deluxe set of _Fantasia_ claims
that the music used for the Sorcerer's Apprentice segment was the only
original composition used for the movie...

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|               Don't blame me.  I voted for Perot.              |
|     A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Beretta and a Gund.     |
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: chuck@cygnus.eid.anl.gov (Charles Cilek)
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast inconsistencies...
Reply-To: chuck@cygnus.eid.anl.gov
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Argonne, Illinois
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:23:24 GMT

What about the fact that all of these French people speak and
sing in English? :-)



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From: greg@acme.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: Be Our Guest parody
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:01:12 PST

In article <1992Nov10.155723.15823@ccd.harris.com>, ras@controls.ccd.harris.com (Russell Soule) writes:
> 
> Sorry to fan the flames here, but as Christians, we believe our value system
> is absolute, because it comes from God. There is only one God, and He has
> only one value system. It is laid out in His Word. Plain and simple.

As a nominal Christian myself, let me point out a couple of things.  While
God said there was only one of Him, He never said He had only one guise.
Who's to say that He didn't reveal Himself to different cultures in different
ways?  Also, how do you know what His word is?  The Bible was written by
men, not God.  Even if you want to believe that the original authors were
divinely inspired, have you gone back and learned the original languages
to read the oldest surviving manuscripts?

> The fact of the matter is sex is
> one of God's greatest gifts to us, but it is intended to be done within the
> confines of marriage.

You're right about the first part (granted the assumption that there is
a God at all), but the second is totally unsupportable.  If you think you
can show me a passage in the Bible that prohibits sex between two unmarried
people, please e-mail me.  I've looked in my copy and I can't find anything
like that.  And don't bother quoting the KJV to me.  That's arguably one
of the worst translations of an ancient language ever perpetrated on an
unsuspecting public, all the more hideous because so many of the changes
were deliberate.

> As Christians we are commanded to say what we believe. And we have been
> amply warned about the worlds responses.

Yes, God said to go out and teach the faith.  But He didn't say to ram
it down the throats of those who choose not to listen.  Remember the
parable of the good Samaritan?  Are you aware that the hero was a heathen?
That's right.  The Samaritans didn't worship the Jeudeo/Christian God.
And all those rightous Jews walked by without lifting a finger to help.
The Christ taught compasion and love, not control of others.  The only
time He censured anyone was to clean out the grounds of the temple.
And I'd hardly call this newsgroup holy ground, no matter how much of
a drooling Disney fan-boy I may be.

> God bless,

You too, whatever you may believe.

--
|  Greg Orman                         greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|     A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Beretta and a Gund.     |
From: gschlesi@scott.skidmore.edu (gabriel schlesinger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney CD List
Date: 7 Nov 92 23:35:54 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY

ultron@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andrew H Krieg) writes:
> Frank Pohlemann used to maintain an excellent list of all the Disney CDs.
> Does anyone know if he is still around? (Frank, are you out there? :^))
> 
> The last copy I have of the list is over a year old, and quite out of date
> now.  I would be willing to update and post this list if Frank no longer
> wishes to maintain it.
> 
> Is there any interest in seeing this list posted on r.a.disney?
> -- 
> =     Andrew Krieg	| 						=
> = krieg@titan.med.ge.com|  Treguna   Mekoides   Trecorum   Satis   Dee	=
> =	   or		|						=
> = krieg@point.cs.uwm.edu| 				    - Astoroth	=

I'm interested in seeing this posted!  Please do so.  I just
resubscribed to this newsgroup for this very reason.  

				-Gabe
From: dpm1960@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (snopes)
Subject: Re: Club 33 -- Disneyland's Best Kept Secret
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: club33
Organization: Will pay money for food.
Date: 11 Nov 1992 17:15 EST  

In article <1992Nov10.054519.11479@u.washington.edu>, 
  mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu (Denise "Apple Lady" Lockner) writes...

> As a side anecdote, I was told by my supervisor that Club 33 used to serve
> its food with cloth napkins and on special "Club 33" engraved blue plates.
>  However, due to the patrons (we're talking businesspeople here, not just         
> ordinary guests!!) stealing ALL of this table dressing, they now use
> paper napkins (but very nice, with "Club 33" imprinted in gold) and 
>refrain from serving any food on plates which say "Club 33." 

Cloth napkins are still used; they just don't say "Club 33" on them any more
(although the paper napkins are emblazoned with the gold Club 33 logo).  The
plates did change in design, from the Club 33 logo to the words "Club 33"
in script, but I might be thinking of the plates they use to cover other plates
rather than the plates on which food is actually served.  People still take
matchbooks by the dozens, but my favorite souvenir remains the pen used to sign
the credit card receipt.

 - snopes

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Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology-Office of Information Technology
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:58:34 EST
From: Paul Goodwin <CC100PG@GITVM1.GATECH.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: <None>
 <Bx3zrJ.D5x@kathunk.phaedrav.on.ca> <1992Nov9.204452.1@acme.claremont.edu>

In article <1992Nov9.204452.1@acme.claremont.edu>, greg@acme.claremont.edu
(Tigger) says:
>
>Are we all talking about the same piece?  I could have sworn that the
>"making of" tape that comes with the deluxe set of _Fantasia_ claims
>that the music used for the Sorcerer's Apprentice segment was the only
>original composition used for the movie...
>

The only piece in "Fantasia" that I am not very familiar with is the
"Ave Maria" that is used at the end of the film.  None of the other pieces
(with the exception of the bit with the soundtrack, and the "jam" they did)
were written for the movie; all are older works.

Paul Goodwin


















Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: ins534z@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast inconsistencies...
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:52:19 GMT

klind@cs.arizona.edu (Konrad "Beezlebub" Lind) writes:

>For the life of me, I can remember if this has been discussed yet, but,

>A friend and I watch BatB over and over to look for inconsistencies.
>A prime example is in the beginning.  Belle's book, that the bookkeeper
>gives her, has a picture in it, evident by the scene where she sits
>at the fountain and the sheep bites a corner out of the page with the
>picture on it.  Later, Gaston takes the book and asks "How can you
>read this.  It has no pictures."

Hey - maybe the sheep ate the whole page while no one was looking
and IT WAS THE ONLY PICTURE?

Tim Pickett
Defender of the Righteous and of Faults in Disney Films.

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From: fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie)
Subject: Be Our Guest parody - ENOUGH!
Organization: Bradley University
Date:  7 Nov 92 08:43:26 GMT


	Okay!  Enough with the 1st Ammendment debate already!  This group is
about Disney!  Look, it was posted.  No point in trying to change the past.
Some liked it, and some didn't.  Some laughed while others found it
offensive.  It's over!  You can't change it!  Let it die and quit bickering
about who's right and who's wrong!  This is an arguement which is being
fought over in our courts every day, so I don't think our banter is going
to have much of an impact on the world we live in.  Ob-la-dee, ob-la-dah,
life goes on!

--

_______________________________________________________________________________
Alan S. Lurie, Esq., Time Traveller Extrordinaire = fletch@camelot.bradley.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
       "Don't do anything that I wouldn't do.  But, if you do, take
	pictures."
		              -- Al, QUANTUM LEAP
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From: alberti@ux.acs.umn.edu (Timothy Fay)
Subject: Re: Robin Hood Query
Originator: alberti@staff.tc.umn.edu
Organization: Revolutionary Anarchist Bowling League
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 07:57:48 GMT

In <1992Nov8.135015.8697@ac.dal.ca> lennon@ac.dal.ca writes:

>What year was Robin Hood first released ?

1973.  On November 8th, coincidentally enough...

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From: atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin)
Subject: Re: Aladdin Soundtrack.
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:06:57 GMT

Farul A Ghazali (fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
> 
> To all of you out there with the Aladdin soundtrack (I haven't had the
> time to go to the store to get mine yet), how many songs are there in
> the CD? I vaguely remember 4 or 5 from the movie, the intro, Aladdin's
> song, the Genie's song, Prince Ali and the love theme. Is this all
> (not including the instrumental ones)? Also, which ones did Howard
> Ashman work on? 
> 
>    ---> farul ghazali.
>         columbia university in the city of new york.

The CD includes "Arabian Nights", "One Jump Ahead" and the "OJA - Reprise"
"Friend Like Me", "Prince Ali", "A Whole New World", "Prince Ali - Reprise",
and the pop version of "A Whole New World".  The CD also has the Legend of
the Lamp and several instrumental tracks.  Howard Ashman wrote the lyrics
for "Friend Like Me", "Prince Ali" (not the reprise), and most of "Arabian
Nights".  Tim Rice finished the lyrics on "Arabian Nights" and wrote the
lyrics for the rest of the songs.  Good ol' Alan Menken wrote all of the
music.

	--Ala"ddi"n



Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: gsbrande@acs.ucalgary.ca (Geoffrey Sean Brandenburg)
Subject: Re: Trivia, Trivia, and more Trivia
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 22:18:05 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Keywords: trivia 

>>> 2) What is the cheapest (as in price, not quality) item you can buy at
>>> Disneyland?
>> 

>I'll give you a hint.  The cheapest item costs 10 cents.  Good Luck.

Ummm, a phone call?  Or are they 25 cents?


-- 
Sean Brandenburg         | "It is better for your career to do nothing, than to
gsbrande@acs.ucalgary.ca |  do something and attract criticism." -- Dogbert
From: Michael.Benedict@f166.n363.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Benedict)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disney Stuff
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 20:19:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:363/166

I have a few questions about animated cartoons. 1. How many drawings 
dose it take to produce 1min. of an animated cartoon? 2. How long 
would it take to complete an animated feature like BatB and how many 
people would it take to do it? 3. Im 15 years old and want to be an 
animator for Disney, what should i do to become one?  Also, if 
there's any animators out there i'd love ta meet'cha!
                                                                
P.S. How much would it cost to purchase an animation cell from BatB 
and some from an afternoon cartoon series?
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From: ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl Landis)
Subject: Howard Ashman
Reply-To: ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl Landis)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:24:41 GMT


Forgive my ignorance, but who is he?  There is a nice dedication
at the end of the B&tB video to him.  I assume he worked on Beast and
Little Mermaid.

-Carl
From: jrjj@moscom.com (Jad Jordan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney Stockholder Benefits
Date: 10 Nov 92 13:25:02 GMT
Organization: Moscom Corporation, Pittsford NY

In article <dbarber.721354356@crash.cts.com> dbarber@crash.cts.com (David C. Barber) writes:
>Can someone tell me the complete list of stockholder benefits, and
>if any of them are dependent on the number of shares one ownes.

I think it's time to post the FAQ again. How many articles do we have to read
over and over articles about Stockholder Benefits and where to find the Little
Mermaid video? I guess my patience is at a low today.

"Oh, Isn't this amazing?
It's my favorite part 			   Jad R. J. Jordan
Because, you see,			  MOSCOM Corporation.
Here's where she meets			    jrjj@moscom.com
Prince Charming!				()_()
But she won't discover that it's him		 (_)
'Til Chapter Three."
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: greg@acme.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: Be Our Guest parody
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:08:31 PST

In article <BxFGMF.9n@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, ajmiller@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Arkayn) writes:
> 
> This filth has no place on this newsgroup.

Humor has a place in this newsgroup.  Since neither you nor I own this
group, where does that leave us, eh?  As far as I'm concerned, the only
thing that has no place in this newsgroup is people who try to force
their morality down my throat.  I have my own values that I'm quite
happy with, thank you very much.

--
|  Greg Orman                         greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|               Don't blame me.  I voted for Perot.              |
|     A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Beretta and a Gund.     |
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim)
Subject: Re: Little Mermaid
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 03:33:23 GMT

>Does anybody out there know where I can purchase a copy of Little Mermaid.
>I've been meaning to get a copy ever since it first came out but now they are
>non existent....HELP!

Is it illegal to send this poor unfortunate soul a laserdisc-transfered
copy (at the expense of a VHS tape and the shipping and handling)?
From: gt1293c@prism.gatech.EDU (W. Scott Radeker, IV)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Aladdin CD Release?
Keywords: trivia
Date: 8 Nov 92 23:36:03 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Hog's Breath is Better than No Breath at All.

In article <1992Nov8.070331.1891@athena.mit.edu> awmin@athena.mit.edu (Art Min) writes:
>Do we have a date to the release of the Aladdin soundtrack?

It's already out.

>If not, could the first lucky person to get it in the store,
>please post to this newsgroup, so we can all mob the stores and
>buy this CD.

Ummm, Some Disney stores have it, some don't.  We lost a shipment
which most likely had the soundtracks on it, but you can try the
Disney Store at Town Center, Kennesaw GA and do a charge
send (404-499-9097).  They'll love that!  Tell 'em Scott from
Lenox told you to call.

Scott Radeker

-- 
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From: cs64fad@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast inconsistencies...
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:49:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Nov6.234036.10530@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:
>In article <BxAyv2.7HD@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> summerem@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Erick M. Summers) writes:
>>	Then in "Be Our Guest" Lumiere states something like "ten years
>>we've been been rusting."  That means the prince was 11 when he was changed
>>into the beast and the painting is an exact portrait of the way the prince
>>looks when he is changed back from a beast and not the way he would have
>>looked at age eleven.
>>
>	The best explanation I've heard is that the beast did not
>age during the ten years of the spell. The best proof of that is
>Chip, who can not be more than 10 after he is restored to a
>child.

That's a good idea, especially because of Chip, but it doesn't
explain the 21st year concept.  The prince already looked about 21
in his portrait.  If he didn't age, then great--he'd be 31 years old
after the spell, but still look like 21 (not 11).  But the spell
specified *21*.  I think this whole bit is irresolvably inconsistent.
Disney, apparently, just had to have this in the movie, and were
unable to resolve it themselves.  Probably only here, on rec.arts.disney,
could we have a such a creative and involved discussion about it. :-)


- Robert Cook