From: 01saeid@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: About Baha'u'llah...
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:17:06 -0300
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Jul20.184601.2041@telesoft.com>, hamid@telesoft.com (Hamid Radvar @nova) writes:
> Please excuse my ignorance, but a question has occured to me after loosely
> following the discussions on Bahai faith.  How did Baha'u'llah come to be
> recognized as a divine being?  Did he perform some sort of a miracle
> much like other prophets?
> 
> 
> Genuinely curious,
> Hamid Radvar
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Dear Hamid;
You question regarding miracles are somehow very hard to answer if you
don't accept the baha'i phylosophy over the word miracle. As a Bahai I
personally do not believe in the existance of miracles and I don't think
that anybody who has something to say has to perform a miracle for me 
in order for me to believe him. I think I have enough respect for myself 
that I can believe in someone without trying to see something imaginary that
would make me believe the person is saying the right thing.
The other aspect of it is that you should believe that god does not need 
to prove his words to human being by performing miracles. God is the allmighty
and his messangers are above the humanity and hence there is no need for 
miracles to be performed. Another aspect is that humans are in no position
to test the messangers of god and that is again due to the fact that the
messangers of god are above humanity. A normal example to that is that during
your studies you had never requested your teacher in school to perform a miracle
in order to believe him.

In the Bahai context the previously mentioned so called miracles that had 
happend in the previous religions are only an implications of the power
of god's word. Bahai's beleive that when it is mentioned that Christ preformed
miracles by bringing death back to life or awarding sight to blind people are
not a literal action but it means that ordinary people were awakened by the
presence of Christ. I can understand that the appearance of Christ brought
the new life for the people and the new spirit and that in a sence brought
them back from death. 

So you have to understand that we Bahai's seek to find the real answer behind
everything and not simply believe everything as miracle. Of course you have
to understand the implications of the new life by believing the new prophet
and his message. It is exactly like weaking from death and born again. 

In the Bahai faith there has not been any miracles perfromed as you might 
expect. Although the assissination of Bab (you might have heard that the
first time when 750 soldiers fired at him and he survived) is not being
considered a miracle (I am sure that if it had happened in Islam this would
have been called a miracle). We Bahai's believe that the possibility exist
that the first bullet cut the rope where Bab was held and caused him to drop
to ground and then every other bullet passed over his head. 

I hope this is satisfactory. If you need exact Bahai writing I can provide
you with such.

Regarding the devine stage of Baha'u'llah. There has been a lot of talk
recently on this news group and I hope you made some sence out of it.
My best suggestions to you is that to refer to your local library and 
read a book about the Bahai Faith. It is your obligation to examine
the reality behind this faith since it was established from Iran and
it is now conquering the world.

Saeid
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