HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pred@iitmax.iit.edu (Predrag S. Bundalo)
Subject: Disk quotas (was Re: Is backing up to tape supported?)
Organization: IIT--Institute of Increasing Tuition.
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 06:45:12 GMT

In article <92082919442@umunk.GUN.de> udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk) writes:
>davison@living.rutgers.edu (Brian D. Davison) writes:

[ . . . ]

>: And, since I've got your attention, does Coherent support user disk
>: quotas?
>
>Yes, it comes with the quot command.

Actually, no, it doesn't support disk quotas.  The "quot" command simply
summarizes disk usage per user.

Writing a simple disk quota'ing system wouldn't be very difficult though.
I know of one that runs nightly, creating log files for the manager.  I port
wouldn't be too difficult.

Regards,

Pred Bundalo
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From: clemens@ms.uky.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Clone keyboard works...
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:09:29 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

My Micro Express Maxi Touch keyboard is just dandy...


Richard Clemens    Associate Professor of Business and Computer Science
                   West Virginia Wesleyan College
                   Buckhannon, WV  26201  (304) 473-8480
                   acpwvw!auxrcc!clemens@ms.uky.edu
From: sxjcb@ORCA.ALASKA.EDU ("Jay C. Beavers")
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Trying to port new cnews (performance release)
Date: 30 Aug 92 22:42:41 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network

In article <9208302217.AA16780@sylvester.cc.utexas.edu>, you wrote:
>
> In article <01GO0CT0Y94Y91W0YW@delphi.com> you write:
> >As I mentioned previously, you'll need a smarter version of make to
> >compile cnews (and some other sources). I used dmake as obtained from
> >raven in the sources directory and it seems to work well. At least it
> >knew how to "make all" whereas the one supplied with Coherent couldn't
> >figure it out.
> >
> >to all of the options. I'm not sure how to specify the organization, and
> >I don't see it mentioned in the documentation files.
> >
> >	-- Greg
>
> ORGANIZATION environment variable sets organization, it's in my school's
> man page.  Also, where is raven (is it an ftp site?) - I need a new make.
> Mail me any diffs or changes you had to make to make dmake (grin).
> Thanks a million!  Oh yeah, please? ( I almost 4got the magic word! )
>
> --
> EOM
> Protect our endangered bandwidth - reply by email.
> VAX#N8 vax@ccwf.utexas.edu

Raven is an anonymous FTP site at raven.alaska.edu or 137.229.10.39. - jcb

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: pershing@teal.csn.org (Paul Pershing)
Subject: Re: Keyboards/Virtual Console woes
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 02:20:30 GMT

bob@dalek.mwc.com (Bob Hemedinger) writes:

>>
>> I have 4.0.1 up and running on my Leading Technology 6800SX (a 386sx/16
>> machine.)  However, I had to install with the non-loadable keyboard
>> driver, else the keyboard was unusable.
>>
>The following is a non-sanctioned by MWC personal reply...
>Rerun the update. It won't clobber your existing filesystem, but it may
>screw up your /etc/ttys file, so you'll have to watch out for whatever
>ends up in it.
>--
I am curious: I, too, have keyboard problems, but not so that the keyboard
is unusable, just so it is a pain in the neck. For example, I can run
virtual terminals, but when I am running vi (el_vi_is), my [ESC] key doesn't
do [ESC]; instead, I have to hit [F1]. Control [CTRL]-keys must be subbed
with [ALT]-key. In vi, this is a real hassle. I have hesitated to reinstall,
but since it appears to be the problem, I guess I will.
 --- would someone please comment on similar problems and solutions? --
It seems like MWC would offer [two] standard keyboard drivers, since when
I installed 3.0.2., I had the same problem(s), but with a much different
computer. However, neither is what you'd call a brand name. Remarks?

Paul Pershing

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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Coh 4.0.1 crontab problems
Date: 29 Aug 92 23:22:59 GMT
Organization: umunk (private)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

roger@neptons.UUCP (Roger Barth) writes:
: I successfully upgraded to Coherent 4.0.1!!
: 
: Now I would like to convert my old /usr/lib/crontab to use the new
: /usr/spool/cron/crontabs/.., but whenever I move the items for root 
: uucp to execute from the old /usr/lib/crontab to the new directory,
: they stop working.
: 
: This has gotten to be a pain since I have upgraded GNEWS and compiled
: it under 4.0.1 to be 386 executables, so the old 'besomeone' of 286
: vintage does not exist in the new crontab structure.
[ deleted stuff looks fine ]

I've done it successfuly, but I'm using wnews. I guess your problem
are wrong permissions. The directorys /usr/spool/cron and
/usr/spool/cron/crontabs must be owned by root, permission must
be 755.
The permission of the files for every user in crontabs must be
644 and the owner and group must be set apropriate.
Here is an ls -la from my /usr/spool/cron/crontabs:

drwxr-xr-x  2 root       root            80 Sat Aug  8 03:59 .
drwxr-xr-x  3 root       root            48 Thu Jul 16 06:43 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 news       news           188 Wed Aug 26 09:57 news
-rw-r--r--  1 root       root           248 Sat Aug  8 17:13 root
-rw-r--r--  1 uucp       uucp           453 Sat Aug  8 03:59 uucp

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: vspicer@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Subject: small 4.0 problem...
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:15:51 GMT

hi net world. forgive if this has been beaten to death before, but i've
gone through all the FAQ's and can't find anything...

i got 4.0 last night and generally am happy with it. however, i am
experiencing 3 quirks which i can't quite resolve:

1. i am using all 4 virtual consoles. in a "vi" session often the ":"
command is not recognized (it just beeps) but if i move the cursor it will
then accept it. a quirk in "vi", or a problem with my keyboard or consoles?

2. the "EDITOR" environment variable appears to not be recognized by
coherent's "mail" user agent. it always drops into "ex" for editing. the
variable is set properly as i can use it with "more" and go into "vi"
fine.

3. i got UUCP mail working quite easily, but am having a conflict with 
using Ckermit now. i am using com2, and tried "chmod 666" on the com2* 
entries in /dev.   basically Ckermit comes up, i can "C" and send stuff
to the modem (receive LED blinks) but it doesn't acknowledge stuff back
or accept the command. i suspect this is an easy fix as i recall having
similar problems under 3.2.


oh yes, one more thing :)   has anyone got Zmodem working on 4.0 yet? if
so where are the sources, or what "tweaks" are needed? i got "zmodem.lzh"
from raven.alaska.edu but am having a lot of problems getting it to compile
properly.


thanks in advance
	vic spicer


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software person with the Time of Flight Mass Spec. Lab
at the University of Manitoba Dept. of Physics
From: clc30@ccc.amdahl.com (Chris Caho)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Termcap entry for remote system?
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:55:59 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

grante@aquarius.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards) writes:
> I've got 4.0.1 running, the virtual consoles are working fine, and I
> even have uucp (the non-Taylor one) working.  However, when I use
> kermit to dial up the system at work and run either emacs or vi, the
> console screen goes blank.
> 
> Everything still seems to be working, but the video attributes are set
> to black on black (I think).  I am assuming that the vt100 and vt102
> termcap entries on the remote system aren't quite compatble with the
> escape codes that the monochrome console driver implements.
> 

I have been having the exact same problem.  I sent a captured session
log to ed@mwc.com and am waiting patiently for a response.....!
 




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From: mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Bob's idea about a standard news package
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:31:13 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

I think this is a fantastic idea.  I am no C programmer, but I would
also be willing to volunteer my services as beta tester or whatever
else is needed.  I'm getting very close to having the new performance
release of cnews working so I can hopefully use that experience to
ease the process for the next guy/gal.
 
I agree with Bob that Gnews should probably hit the dustbin since
other systems are much more capable.  I'm sure that once somebody
gets a Coherent friendly install script written for some of the
more complex readers/subsystems it will be a piece of cake to
install them.
 
My vote would be for cnews + any threaded newsreader.
 
BTW, while we're on the subject, what is the major difference
between cnews and wnews?  I'm told that cnews is almost the
de facto standard these days.
 
Best regards,
 
Chris
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent,comp.bbs.waffle
From: keith@ksmith.uucp (Keith Smith)
Subject: Coh 4.0 vs 3.2 (was: Re: Waffle vs. UUCP/rn on Coherent?)
Organization: Keith's Computer, Hope Mills, NC
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 01:03:08 GMT

In article <sVwHPB1w165w@beltrix.guild.org> peters@beltrix.guild.org (Peter Sleggs) writes:
>If you cannot feed 2400 systems.. your system has problems somewhere - I
>move a LOT of news and mail daily, the ONLY system I've had problems
>feeding has been a coherent 3.X system
>
>This coherent system would not take a 9600 connection that did better
>than 400 cps, from a slow SUN and it worked OK.
>
>Hopefully 4.x will be reasonable but if a system cant handle 400 bps I
>cant use it AT ALL!

Similar problems with performance under 3.2.  However,  4.0 is MUCH MUCH
MUCH better.  The filesystem is a bit faster, and I did a couple of
Zmodem transfers over hardwire between my SCO at 19200 and got expected
thruput (with '450 chips even in the Coh box.).  It still feels slower
than SCO, but jeez.  It didn't cost me a grand either.
>
>[ I want a unix box and coherent seems to come closest so far to what I
>can afford to spend now but there are so many problems with 3.x that I
>really wonder about 4.0 ]
>

I don't think you'll be dissappointed.  The Virtual memory is almost a
non-issue IMHO.  Lessee,  for another $900 I can get say an SVR3/4 and
run the app by swapping to disk, or buy 24MB of RAM, and run it in core.
Hmm,  rough choice.

I'd sink the money into the hardware, as the software will continue to
improve.  I've found Coherent to be quite stable on a 386 with an RLL
controller.

It absoulutely did not like the 486/33 box with an OPTI chipset I had at
the office.  Panic's and trashes the filesystem.  Worked fine on a
386/40 and a 386/20.  Will move the drive onto a 386SX next week and
start porting a few things.

>
>--
>Bellatrix Systems Corp. Mississauga, Ontario Canada
>peters@beltrix.guild.org or beltrix!peters


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Digital Designs      BBS 1-919-423-4216            Hope Mills, NC 28348-2201
Somewhere in the Styx of North Carolina ...
From: vax@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU (Vax)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Trying to port new cnews (performance release)
Date: 30 Aug 92 22:17:41 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <01GO0CT0Y94Y91W0YW@delphi.com> you write:
>As I mentioned previously, you'll need a smarter version of make to
>compile cnews (and some other sources). I used dmake as obtained from
>raven in the sources directory and it seems to work well. At least it
>knew how to "make all" whereas the one supplied with Coherent couldn't
>figure it out.
>
>to all of the options. I'm not sure how to specify the organization, and
>I don't see it mentioned in the documentation files.
>
>	-- Greg

ORGANIZATION environment variable sets organization, it's in my school's
man page.  Also, where is raven (is it an ftp site?) - I need a new make.
Mail me any diffs or changes you had to make to make dmake (grin).
Thanks a million!  Oh yeah, please? ( I almost 4got the magic word! )

--
EOM
Protect our endangered bandwidth - reply by email.
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From: karl@dadoka.h.ni.schule.de (Karl Sarnow)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: News System for Coherent.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 19:49:45 EDT
Organization: Karls Emergency Mailbox

joachim@jr.rhein-main.de (Joachim Riedel) writes:

.....

> NEVERTHELESS:
> 
> Assume one has to write each time an extra installation script after he ports
> a program. Then you can be sure that only very few guys will ever give their
> ports to the public. The programs are in most cases without installation 
> script even in their original posted form.
> 
> ALSO: A NEWS-System is always very difficult to install. When I first got
> CNEWS for 386/ix a friend came over and installed and configured my news
> system. Even a good script cannot solve all problems that may occur.
> 
So why not take these problems from unexperienced users and publish a 
Coherent 4.0 specific shell script here? Most Coh 4.0 users bougth this
software because they want to LEARN about UNIX and not get frustrated. 
It would not be so important, if not nearly all support for Coherent
goes through this medium. I understand, that real UNIX guys do not
have interest to help novices again and again. But as Coherent is a
relative stable environment (with respect to development policy),
it should be useful posting a shell script which installs a News System
without error messages. I know, that installing the system and fine
tuning it is another task. But the first one is hard enough and much
harder than it could be.

Ciao
Karl

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From: root@kwcom.in-berlin.de (Olaf Matthaei)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Wnews on Coh 4.0
Organization: Communication KWH Germany,KW  
Date: Tue,  1 Sep 92 19:06:27 +0100

root@ritz.mordor.com (Chris Mauritz - SysGod) writes:
> After giving up on cnews, I am trying to get wnews to work.  I
> took the wnews 3.0 package from Raven, but when I type
> "make", I get:
> 
> ld: file 'libndir.a' : Cannot Open
> 
> and the makefile exits with an error.  How do I fix this?

Install the libndir packet from the COHWARE disc of mwc and then
install wnews.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Copying files to floppy disks
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:13:46 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <2852@monarch.array.com> mike@array.com (Mike Willett) writes:
>
I said:
>: And Coherent cat works just like UNIX cat.
>: I have an internet account, but my method of getting sources from the
>: internet to rmkhome is:
>: 1. ftp source file
>: 2. uuencode source file
>: 3. split uuencoded file into 64k sized pieces
>
>	A shell script called "split" should work nice here. In 4.0 you
>	should not have to split them. (Hopefully)

Split is a standard UNIX command.

>: 4. mail the pieces to myself at rmkhome
>
>	You can also uucp them.  Then you can skip step 5.
>	On a Sun (HDB)(at least) you can uuto them.

Only if the permissions are set up for all the systems down the line.

>: 5. edit the pieces to remove mail header and blank line at end of message
>: 6. cat fileparts.xa? >filename.uue
>
>	A shell script called join should work nice here too..  :)

And a vi macro can do most of the work.

>: 7. uudecode filename.uue
>: 8. etcetera
>: 
>: I've been doing this with Coherent since 3.1.0 without any problems.
>: And I've been doing it with UNIX for around 10 years.
>
>	In 64K chunks?  Masochist!    :)

When you are forced to mail sources it is best to use 64k as the chunk,
as that is the maximum supported by many mailers.  Obviously, when I
can I use UUCP to move the whole file at once.

>	Somebody want to tell me what real UNIX is?  :)  I have not
>	seen it in 12 years...  :)  I will vote for the candidate 
>	(or alien) who will pledge to bring real Unix back!  :)
>
>	Anybody worked in real Unix prior to 1968?  :)  :)  :)

No such animal.

>--
>       mike@array.com     So much fun, so little time to enjoy it...
>
>       System Administration: n, 1. Fixing yesterdays' problems 
>				tomorrow.
>-- 
>       mike@array.com     So much fun, so little time to enjoy it...
>
>       System Administration: n, 1. Fixing yesterdays' problems tomorrow.


You'd better fix your news software. :-)

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
From: mike@pacsoft.com (Mike Stefanik)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: prospective user:questions on sys...
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:44:25 GMT
Organization: Pacific Software Group, Riverside, Ca.

In an article, jduncan@scott.skidmore.edu (john duncan) writes:
>I am thinking of buying the coherent system. I need to know
>some stuff on the system. 
>Does it support networking such as Novell, IEEE Ethernet and TCP/IP? 

No, but there have been some mumbling on the net regarding TCP/IP.
I have gathered that MWS intends to have this in future releases.

>Will it run almost all proggys made for BSD-x and SCO?

The claim is that they will run i386 COFF executables, and they do.
However, programs that use system-specific ioctl()'s, etc. will most
likely choke and die (one of our packages does this very thing.)

>Will it run X effectively?

Pretty much the same position as your question about networking.
X would probably not be a great boon to a majority of the Coherent
users anyhow (yes, you get the operating system for $100 but then have
to run out and purchase $3000 worth of hardware to get acceptable
performance...)
-- 
Mike Stefanik  mike@pacsoft.com  ...!uunet!pacsoft!mike
Pacific Software Group, Riverside, CA
From: root@kwcom.in-berlin.de (Olaf Matthaei)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Wyse Terminals
Organization: Communication KWH Germany,KW  
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 11:49:04 +0100

CHAMBLES@usmcp6.bitnet (JOHN CHAMBLESS) writes:
> I have gotten hold of a Wyse 60 terminal as salvage(as is!).
> I've connected it to com1 on my system...set it up for polled access
> because my modem is on com3. The instruction for ttys setup seem clear;
> but even when I try to manually enable the terminal, it won't work.
> The screen comes on--but all it reacts to is the caps lock and numlock
> keys. To add to the confusion, I'm not even sure the terminal is working!
> Any hints or similar experience will help.
 
One user on my sytem has a wysw60 terminal too. Here ist the .profile of
these user:
...
MAIL=/usr/spool/beck
export TERM=wyse50
...
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From: keith@ksmith.uucp (Keith Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Coherent 4.0.1 problem...
Date: 29 Aug 92 20:24:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Keith's Computer, Hope Mills, NC

I beleive the install had something in it about "alternate polling"?  It
said if you see at: TO messages you need alternate polling.  See 'at -
Device Driver' Notes section in the manual or reinstall and pick alternate
polling for the drive.
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Digital Designs      BBS 1-919-423-4216            Hope Mills, NC 28348-2201
Somewhere in the Styx of North Carolina ...
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Subject: ACME BBS Phone Number
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 12:14:11 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

Apologies to anyone who may have tried to call ACME BBS working from the
number in my signature (and thanks to Robert Chalmers, who tried it and
couldn't get through), I had the area code listed wrong. So much for
asking MWC to get ACME's listing right in the 4.0 release notes, it seems
I can't even figure out my phone number!

The correct number is listed below!

						- k
-- 
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"Jub'f Xvob?"
From: GREGL@DELPHI.COM (Greg Law)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Trying to port new cnews (performance release)
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:28:54 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

As I mentioned previously, you'll need a smarter version of make to
compile cnews (and some other sources). I used dmake as obtained from
raven in the sources directory and it seems to work well. At least it
knew how to "make all" whereas the one supplied with Coherent couldn't
figure it out.

To get signatures with Elm, edit the $HOME/.elm/elmrc file and include
the line:

	localsignature=<path>/.signature
	remotesignature=<path>/.signature

On mine, I set both to /usr/greg/.signature -- or use .sig if that's
the name of your signature file. If the $HOME/.elm/elmrc hasn't been
created, run Elm, press 'o' for options, then press '>' to save the
current configuration. You can change some of the options from within
the options screen (set User level to Expert User to see more commands on
the menu), although you'll have to edit the elmrc file directly to get
to all of the options. I'm not sure how to specify the organization, and
I don't see it mentioned in the documentation files.

	-- Greg