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From: kaz@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Karen Fegley)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Looking for mantles
Date: 16 Dec 1992 16:07:41 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Distribution: ne
NNTP-Posting-Host: pogo.pubs.stratus.com

In article <1992Dec15.170850.11483@news.media.mit.edu> kanarick@media.mit.edu  
(Craig M. Kanarick) writes:
> 
> Does anyone have any recommendations on where I can buy fireplace mantles?  
> I am looking for antiques...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- cmk
> -- 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Craig M. Kanarick			"Do I love you?  Yes I love you.
> 					 All this talking...talking...	
> kanarick@media-lab.media.mit.edu	 is only bravado..."

Olde Bostonian in Dorchester has LOTS of good stuff; mantles, doors
(rows and rows of them), trim, lots of antique hardware, etc., etc.
This is a great place to scavenge if you are fixing up an old house.
We found a small plaster ceiling medallion to replace one that was
missing from the front hall of our house.

BTW, they also do bulk stripping. They stripped the mantle from our
fireplace and all the door and window trims for us and did a decent
job pretty quickly. I don't remember the price but it was reasonable.

Karen
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: spike@world.std.com (Joe Ilacqua)
Subject: Re: ne...
Organization: Software Tool & Die
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:49:51 GMT

In the referenced article dulcinea@cwis.unomaha.edu (Shaene Steinauer) writes:
<Shouldn't NE stand for Nebraska, not North East United States?
>If not, where do I find Nebraska listings?  (besides University postings)

	That's New England, not North East.  As far as I can tell
there is no Nebraska hierarchy.  Guess you arn't as cool as us.  And
we must be very cool since they made fun of N.E. on Saturday Night
Live this week.

->Spike
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Newsgroups: ne.general
From: gunther@world.std.com (Gunther W Anderson)
Subject: Fortress America, by Milton Bradley
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:46:52 GMT

A friend of mine has a son whose heart has been set on receiving
Fortress America for Christmas.  This is a Milton Bradley board
game of their GameMaster series, the same series that produced
Axis and Allies.  It has been out of print since 1988.  Does any
body have any idea where one might go about getting a copy of 
this game?  She is willing to get a used copy, and in fact offerred
to buy mine from me.  I demurred.

Feel free to Followup or Reply, as I read this group.  I'm going
to post this to rec.games.board as well, but I don't read that
nearly as often.

						Gunther
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: Mark Preece <mark@cambridge.apple.com>
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:57:03 GMT
X-Xxdate: Thu, 17 Dec 92 09:58:41 GMT
Organization: Apple ATG

In article <1992Dec16.044513.22455@unixland.natick.ma.us> Bill Heiser,
bill@unixland.natick.ma.us writes:
>>But Bill, what good is that gonna do when YOUR employer demands you
>>come in on Sunday?
>
>Essentially they already do - as a salaried employee, I'm expected 
>to "do what it takes to get the job done."  If a user calls on Sunday
>and says he "has to get this build done for a Customer demo Monday 
>morning", I best help him out.  :-)     I'm sure i wouldn't get fired
>for not doing it, but the point is in the long term it would matter.

But this is precisely the point -- you wouldn't get fired because, as a
skilled worker, you have some leverage in this process. And if you get
called to work on Sunday too often, you might be able to sell your skills
to another company. The point of labor laws (and labor unions) is to give
some leverage to people who, as relatively unskilled workers, have no
power otherwise. Labor boards can help in the most egregious cases but,
as Barry and others have pointed out, a manager can claim he/she fired
someone for a reason so vague ("bad attitude", "spends too much time
chatting with friends", or some such)  that the board can't/won't act.
Sunday closing laws attempt to avoid the problem by making sure the issue
doesn't come up. It's certainly an imperfect solution -- and, I suspect,
soon to be entirely a thing of the past -- but it would be nice if the
the debate about it weren't reduced completely to the level of what's
most convenient for the people with bucks to spend.

-Mark Preece.
From: wiryaman@riscee.pko.dec.com (Santa Wiryaman)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Logan Airport Parking Garage
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:47:25 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard MA

I have never had a problem with central, terminal B, and terminal E parking
garages.  The attendants have so far been pretty accurate with the time and
fees, and sometime they didn't even charge 5-10 minute overtime.

For picking up passengers, I usually don't use the garage unless I came much
to early or there is unannounced delay.  Call up the airline first before you
leave!  If I need to go into the terminal to help with the bagage, I use the
metered parking spaces (bring a handful of quarters!) if the terminal is A, C,
D, or E.  Terminal B doesn't have convenient metered parking spaces.

When I arrive at the airport I stop at the video display of the arrival
schedules.  This is nice of them to provide right at the curbside.  If it is
not crowded, I usually wait at the curbside.  If crowded, the police can tell
people to move on, in which case I make a loop and wait at the metered spaces
in front of terminal A.  10-15 minutes after the arrival time, I make another
attempt to go to the arriving terminal.

I would recommend your parents to park at the garage, though if they are not
familiar to the airport surroundings.  It should be hassle free and they should
not have to pay more than $3 if they call ahead to check the arrival time.

Another easy and inexpensive way is for you to take the Blue Line to the
Aquarium stop.  Your parents can wait at the station or at Marriott.  They have
to find parking, though, which can be more expensive.  Also they would have
no idea if your flight is delayed or cancelled.

Hope this helps,


-- 
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From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:14:50 GMT
	<1992Dec10.200738.13641@linus.mitre.org>
	<1992Dec11.154818.1328@m5.harvard.edu>
	<BZS.92Dec14231330@world.std.com>
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

I dunno, I think it's not really the state's business to deny Sunday
openings, and I don't buy the "protecting labor" argument. When I was
doing hourly labor, my favorite shift was working one weekend day and
having one day off. Why? Because it gave me a free "business day."
Families with kids, paying for daycare, often want to stagger their
hours. I want to be able to choose my week, and negotiate it with my
employer, not be told I can't work Sunday because some notion of
family life dictates that I should be home that day. 

  (of course in an ideal world governmetn and banks wouldnt just be
open 8:30-4, and child care wouldnt be such a struggle, but I digress)
--
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Newsgroups: ne.general
From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:21:01 GMT

borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Dave Borden) writes:
>I once posted something about this sort of thing on another newsgroup,
>and people jumped all over me for it.  Now we have a real example.  I
>have no doubt that this sort of thing is rare, but those who support
>human services (like me) would have a better time trying to win support
>if they would admit that abuses of the system do occur.  Then, you can
>work from there to make the system better.

What really makes me mad is the fact that someone (like the person in
this example) can, by grossly abusing the system, live in a nice house
that I (as a working person) couldn't even come close to being able to
afford!!

-- 
heiser@world.std.com
From: exd@cad15.genrad.com (Erik X. Duus)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Does anyone play indoor soccer?
Followup-To: ne.general
Date: 14 Dec 1992 16:28:09 -0500
Organization: GenRad, Inc.
Distribution: ne
NNTP-Posting-Host: cad15.genrad.com
Keywords: soccer

Does anyone know of or play in any indoor soccer leagues in the Concord,
MA area (specifically men's 18+ leagues)? I would appreciate any leads.

Thanks

 

-- 
Erik Duus  - exd@genrad.com     | The above opinions are mine, not those	
508-369-4400 x3207              | of my employer.	

Newsgroups: ne.general
From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: The World
	<BZS.92Dec14224127@world.std.com>
	<1992Dec15.161908.3592@m5.harvard.edu>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:14:22 GMT


From: borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Dave Borden)
>It means that Bill will probably have one or more weekdays off, and will
>be able to perform his errands then.  Sunday business or no, we'll still have
>the forty-hour law.

Why? Why let them go home at all, what if I get an urge for a cold
beer at 3AM, can't they just kind of sleep behind the cash register
and ring me in?  Are there no prisons? Are the workhouses all full?

-- 
        -Barry Shein

Software Tool & Die    | bzs@world.std.com          | uunet!world!bzs
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Newsgroups: ne.general
From: carl@aoa.aoa.utc.com (Carl Witthoft)
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: Adaptive Optics Associates
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:10:10 GMT

In article <BZS.92Dec14224127@world.std.com> bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:
>
>From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
>>on Saturday.  Back when I had a schedule that had weekdays off and I 
>>worked weekends, I had MUCH more flexibility in getting things done
>>(i.e. I could do things when businesses were open).
>But Bill, what good is that gonna do when YOUR employer demands you
>come in on Sunday?
x
Well, it would be nice if there were some laws mandating 2 days a week
off for all employees but not specifying the days, or maybe even mandating
that the employees must be allowed to choose their two days.  TOugh
to enforce, unfortunately.
But, hey, this could easily spin off into a discussion of the absurd
amount of overtime, compensated or not, that people are expected to work
"these days."  The USA needs to lighten up.  Who really cares if we
are nbr 1 or nbr 8 globally?  Let's get some of that European 8 week
vacation schedules!

-- 
Carl Witthoft @ Adaptive Optics Associates
aoa!carl@bbn.com  carl@aoa.utc.com
54 CambridgePark Drive, Cambridge,MA 02140 617-864-0201
"88 is 55 if you want to fly."
From: lincoln@think.com (Lincoln Matra)
Newsgroups: tm.general,ne.general
Subject: 8MM Camera Advice
Date: 15 Dec 1992 10:31:09 -0500
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation

I'm looking for some recommendations for
purchasing one of those 8MM Cam Corders.

My questions are as follows:

1.	What kind of features should I look for
	when purchasing one of these within the
	less than $800 price range?

2.	Is an extended warranty a good option
	to take?

3.      Suggestions on Make/Model, or experience
	on what not to get and why?

Please email or "cc" responses to me: <lincoln@think.com>

Thanks in advance,
lincoln.
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: Drinking and the MBTA was Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 02:01:26 GMT

bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:

>Hey, did you know that New Englanders all go Ayup and won't tell ya
>directions if you ask?!

Theyuh's a good reasun for theyut!

Ya Can't get theyuh from heeyuh!

:-)

-- 
heiser@world.std.com
From: monty%roscom@think.com (Monty Solomon)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Logan Airport Parking Garage
Date: 15 Dec 92 08:44:57 GMT
Reply-To: Monty Solomon <roscom!monty@think.com>
Distribution: ne
Organization: Proponent

In article <1992Dec14.002846.4147@netcom.com> allyn@netcom.com (allyn) writes:
> I have heard some horror stories about the Logan Airport Parking Garage
> lately and I would like to try to find out if they are true before I 
> have my parents come to meet me when I arrive next Saturday (Dec 19th). 
> 
> I would like to hear what experiences you all have had with this. If
> there are problems, I will tell my parents to pick me up somewhere
> in town and take the bus or the cross harbor boat from the airport 
> itself.

Where are your parents coming from?

You can also take the Logan Express bus to Framingham or Braintree.

Where did you hear all these horror stories?

-- 
# Monty Solomon / PO Box 2486 / Framingham, MA  01701-0405
# monty%roscom@think.com
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: Logan Airport Parking Garage
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:00:34 GMT

spike@world.std.com (Joe Ilacqua) writes:

>	Hmm, I guess I better stop dumping bodies in the garage.  Can
>anyone suggest an alterative location.

Off the Tobin?  :-)
-- 
heiser@world.std.com
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: spike@world.std.com (Joe Ilacqua)
Subject: Re: looking for ski alias
Organization: Software Tool & Die
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:53:26 GMT

In the referenced article johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine) writes:
<Slightly more seriously, if you want ski reports, there are plenty of them
<in the papers and on the radio.  Remember the usual key:
<"excellent" means "fair"
[...]
<"packed powder"	"ice"
<"loose granular" "ice"

	No, no, "loose granular" is packed powder we have chopped up
with a Snow Cat.

->Spike
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Newsgroups: ne.general
From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: The World
	<BZS.92Dec14225735@world.std.com>
	<1992Dec16.045326.22817@unixland.natick.ma.us>
	<1992Dec17.153759.8113@dunsel.harvard.edu>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:56:12 GMT


From: borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Dave Borden)
>I once posted something about this sort of thing on another newsgroup,
>and people jumped all over me for it.  Now we have a real example.  I
>have no doubt that this sort of thing is rare, but those who support
>human services (like me) would have a better time trying to win support
>if they would admit that abuses of the system do occur.  Then, you can
>work from there to make the system better.

So how much are you willing to pay to make sure the system is
foolproof?  Or did you think that would come free?


-- 
        -Barry Shein

Software Tool & Die    | bzs@world.std.com          | uunet!world!bzs
Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202        | Login: 617-739-WRLD
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:54:36 GMT

bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:

>There's no doubt they derive from what you describe, but isn't it
>possible that for other, secular reasons they turn out to be practical
>to keep?

Like what for example?

>I mean, hey, the bible says thou shalt not kill, but I'm not sure we
>should legalize murder just for the sake of separation of church and
>state...!

Come on now! :-)    murder=buying alchol??    :-)


-- 
heiser@world.std.com
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: zippy@cs.brandeis.edu (Patrick Tufts)
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: Brandeis University
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:09:04 GMT

bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:
[flame deleted]

Must have been that Hi-Fi pizza you ate.

--Pat
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: The World
	<BZS.92Dec5144940@world.std.com> <SPIKE.92Dec8140009@world.std.com>
	<7500@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>
	<1992Dec10.032534.11392@unixland.natick.ma.us>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:00:25 GMT


From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
>The bottom line is that it isn't because "they" (the infamous "they" :-)
>aren't trying to restrict the "number of days of doing business" ... but
>are enforcing laws enacted based on beliefs of the Puritans 200 years ago.

There's no doubt they derive from what you describe, but isn't it
possible that for other, secular reasons they turn out to be practical
to keep?

I mean, hey, the bible says thou shalt not kill, but I'm not sure we
should legalize murder just for the sake of separation of church and
state...!

Now coveting, that's a different matter entirely...

-- 
        -Barry Shein

Software Tool & Die    | bzs@world.std.com          | uunet!world!bzs
Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202        | Login: 617-739-WRLD
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 01:57:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.211101.3176@unixland.natick.ma.us> bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) writes:
>rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>>>This thread is titled "Sunday Liquor Sales".  However most, if not all
>>>of the articles I've read so far have concerned sales of "anything" in
>>>stores on Sundays.
>>>LOTS of stores are allowed to be open on Sunday now.  And I don't mean
>>>this "few weeks before Christmas" stuff either ... I mean all year long.
>>>Why should liquor stores be treated any differently?
>
>>They shouldn't be.
>>Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
>
>Agreed.  I wonder why they still are.  I guess historically it has to
>do with religious beliefs.  But in this day and age, with the separation
>of church and state and all, all businesses should be treated equally.

Well, the state legislature has to make the decision.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:46:22 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <1992Dec12.175401.9651@unixland.natick.ma.us> bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) writes:
>This thread is titled "Sunday Liquor Sales".  However most, if not all
>of the articles I've read so far have concerned sales of "anything" in
>stores on Sundays.
>
>LOTS of stores are allowed to be open on Sunday now.  And I don't mean
>this "few weeks before Christmas" stuff either ... I mean all year long.
>Why should liquor stores be treated any differently?


They shouldn't be.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: The World
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:45:49 GMT


>>When you resort to a public attack by flaming me, all it shows is your closed
>>mindedness towards the subject.  I am glad to debate this subject with you,
>>but when you resort name calling and insults, the debate is over.
>
>I never thought of Barry as being the close-minded type!

Ah, but not so open-minded that his brains fall out of his head either...

-- 
        -Barry Shein

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From: rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Drinking and the MBTA was Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Date: 16 Dec 1992 00:25:18 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun25.bbn.com

In article <HROSE.92Dec15171338@rocza.eff.org>, hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose) writes:
|> I dunno where "The Paradise" is, but last trains leave Park St at
|> 12:45am. (red and green lines). Any MBTA person can tell you this (call
|> 722-3200 if you don't believe me). They leave at 12:45 *on the nose*.

The Paradise is in Allston.  All the trains leave downtown at 12:45
to get to outlying areas.  But this also means that the last train
leaving the outlying area is timed to GET TO Park Street between
12:30 and 12:45.   So yes, you need to leave the Paradise not long
after midnight to get your train into town.

|> So why not close the bars an hour earlier? (I know I'm setting myself up
|> for flames here :-)

I've never understood why there should be bar closing hours
at all.   New York gets by without them, and Chicago has some
open until 4am.

|> Plus, if you kept the T running, you'd have to have 
|> (1) token sellers in each and every station, two in ones that don't
|> connect over (like Kendall).

Not necessarily.  Since traffic after 1am would be light, you could
just have the train driver collect the fares (as is already done
on the surface parts of the Green Line).  Service doesn't
have to be frequent;  every 30 minutes would be fine.

|> (2) inspectors on the platform. more people who have been drinking makes
|> it more likely that people will be "misbehaving".

Well, maybe you could skip this and just say "caveat emptor"
if you're going to ride at that hour.  :-)

|> (3) dispatchers to direct the trains (they don't go by themselves)

Might not be needed with 30 minute headways.

|> About the only thing the T *could* do (and I would suggest it) is
|> running buses instead of trains from 1am-5am (6am on Sundays).

Not a bad idea.  London, Paris, and Amsterdam all have
"night bus" systems--special routes that run ONLY between 
midnight and dawn.  If I was designing such a system, it would
probably run roughly along the rapid transit routes, plus
a few crosstown buses like #1, #47, and #66.  With 
fairly infrequent service, "timed transfers  points"
would be a necessity.

-- 
Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: brighid@bass.lkw.com (Brighid)
Subject: Re: Logan Airport Parking Garage
Organization: Lakewood Corporation
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:54:33 GMT


If your folks are just picking you, it shouldn't be too
much of a problem. They'll only have to deal with it for
a short time.

The expensive problems occur when you have to leave your
car in a lot for a number of days.

Brighid
brighid@bass.lkw.com

----
Consider flying to Hartford, CT or Manchester, NH if you'd
like a smaller airport, no parking hassles and no driving
into Logan hassles.