Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Christianity cares about lives--other religions = hypocrites!
From: cvafy006@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu (Daniel Rouse, Jr.)
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:24:53 PST
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In article <1993Jan25.120413.27404@wam.umd.edu>, judi@wam.umd.edu (Jay T Stein -- your name may vary) writes:
> I know I'm gonna get flamed, especially given the double-jeopardy
> distribution.  But I don't care.  After being yelled at by an evangelical
> screaming at the top of his lungs this weekend, I feel justified.
> 
> What: <1993Jan24.195017.1@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu>
> Who:  cvafy006@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu (Daniel Rouse, Jr.)
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [ ... massive bandwidthectomy ... ]
> 
>>	Oh, I see.  Let's not follow the Christian guidelines becuase it might
>>actually have some morality to it!!!
> 
> I've got a better idea.  Let's not follow the Christian guildelines because
> they are based on archaic and misguided pseudostandards, many of whose
> proponents would be more than happy to impose upon me by force of law.
> 
>> If you have sexual intercourse, it should
>>be to conceive a child.
> 
> See what I mean about archaic standards?  Would you like to defend this
> stand?  You can begin by explaining why a sex drive still exists after
> childbearing years.  Then you can defend your implied stand that a
> married couple must never have intercourse again after they have
> all the children they want.  My aunt and uncle, who are past safe
> childbearing age, would be amused by your defense, I'm sure.
> 
>> The fact that sex is used for pleasure is sin--it
>>should never be used for self-gratification!
> 
> Truth by brute force.  I don't buy it, I don't agree with it, and I've
> never seen a convincing argument of its validity.
> 
>>	Oh, but I forgot--we don't follow Christian doctrine and morality. 
> 
> It's my option.  Christianity had some good ideas, but they got corrupted
> somewhere down the line.  IMO of course.  But if you doubt it, consider
> those "Christians" who say that it's okay to bomb abortion clinics, or
> lie to women if it means "saving a baby," and then turn around and talk
> about absolute moral standards and all sin being equal in the eyes of God.
> 
> Incidentally, some of us are more evolved than to require the threat
> of eternal damnation to be decent people.
> 
>>Guess that shows that Christians ARE the better people because of their value
>>of life--rather than selfish, gratification-seeking hypocrites!
> 
> Uh-huh.  And I bet you would *never* have sex unless you were prepared
> to have a child.  Which means that after you get married and have your
> 1 or 2 or however many kids you have, you'll never have sex again.
> 
> Here's another question for you: is masturbation ethical?
> --
>      _____     __      __               -=* Jay T Stein *=-
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>    |   |  in  |   |  |               Internet: judi@wam.umd.edu
> |__|   |      |__/    \__               GEnie: J.STEIN18
> 
> But still I fear and still I dare not laugh at the madman.

	Why yes...masturbation IS ethical...but not morally right. 
Masturbation is an act to relieve sexual tension to get...once again...self
gratification!  This is also frowned on by Christianity.
-- 
Signed,

Daniel Rouse, Jr.
Sophomore, Computer Engineering 
California State Polytechnic University, Pomona (Cal Poly, Pomona)
Email: cvafy006@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu

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