From: mulac@daystrom.lerc.nasa.gov (Richard Mulac)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections
Subject: Re: Why I can't stand the Democratic party
Date: 9 Oct 92 04:02:57 GMT
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Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center [Cleveland, Ohio]

In article <2AD4D8C3.5425@news.service.uci.edu> jdooley@maemaster.eng.uci.edu (John R. Dooley) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.165559.20847@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> mulac@daystrom.lerc.nasa.gov (Richard Mulac) writes:
>>In article <2AD230E6.25450@news.service.uci.edu> jdooley@maemaster.eng.uci.edu (John R. Dooley) writes:
>>>In article <1992Oct6.173200.20409@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> mulac@daystrom.lerc.nasa.gov (Richard Mulac) writes:
>>>>  Over the last few months I've written several posts ragging on Governor
>>>>Clinton and I'd like take a moment to explain my opinions.  I have lived my
>>>>entire life in an area which is predominantly Democratic, blue collar, and
>>>>ethnically diverse.  I have not had much experience with the Republicans
>>>>locally, since it is rare that one is elected to a local, state, or
>>>>national office from here.                               
>>>
>>>Let's see you're from Cleveland, OH:  home of former Mayor (local
>>>office) Voinovich (a Republican) and current OH Governor (state office)
>>>Voinovich (also a Republican).  Apparently, elected Republicans
>>>are not such a rarity.
>>
>>  You've named ONE person as a counterexample.  Voinovich is one of the
>>rare Republicans elected from the area (Cuyahoga County).  
>
>As I know one politician that I know is from Cleveland, so it immediately
>struck me as odd that he was a Republican. 
>
>>The current mayor of Cleveland, Cleveland city council, the
>>Cuyahoga county commisioners, and a large majority of suburban mayors, 
>>judges, state representatives, and national representatives are Democrats.
>
>Well, if you want more here goes.  
>US Congress:  two Cuyahoga county congressional
>   reps, both Democrats, both in office eight years.  You win here.
>Ohio State Senate:  From what I can determine, five state senate
>   districts include parts of Cuyahoga.   They are:
>   District 21: Jerry Johnson, D
>	    22: Grace Drake,   R
>            23: Anothy Sinagra,  R
>            24: Cary Suhadolnik, R
>            25: Eric Fingerhut, D
>   The three Republicans are from suburbs in Cuyahoga County.
>   The two Democrats are from Cleveland.  Even by the peculiar
>   math of political campaigns 2 out of 5 is not a large majority.

But the districts held by Republicans lie mostly outside Cuyahoga County
and cut into some of the outlying upper middle class suburbs.  You should
see some of the crazy ways the new districts have been redrawn.  Maybe we
can agree that the core of Cuyahoga county is dominated by the Democratic
party, but Republicans have made an impact in the higher income outer
suburbs.  I've lived here all my life and both Democrats and Republicans
here will tell you that historically the state has been split in two with a
Democratic north and Republican south.

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Richard Mulac                                     mulac@daystrom.lerc.nasa.gov
NASA Lewis Research Center, 21000 Brookpark Road, MS 5-9, Cleveland, OH  44135
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