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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:08:21 -0500
Reply-To:     "M. Scott Hoppe OTC - 203 D. Boyd" <msh@TE6000.OTC.LSU.EDU>
From:         "M. Scott Hoppe OTC - 203 D. Boyd" <msh@TE6000.OTC.LSU.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Games for older computers

>I've played some great games on the 386-33s at work, but at home I've
>only got a 286 with 1mb RAM, no graphics card, and only a monochrome
>monitor (!), although I've been able to play some Sierra games (LSLI,
>LSLII, SpaceQuest I) using a graphics simulation program (SIMCGA).

>I'd like to hear from anyone in a similar situation, or others who've
>been there in the past, regarding the names of some good games for a
>286.  Please!!!

>Chuck.  <internet: charlie@ac.dal.ca>

>P.S. Appreciated the discussions of what to buy when going 386-486.
>I'll put it to good use when I'm rich like you guys. ;-)

Pick up some of the 'oldies' like Ultima's 1 - 4 (1 - 3 for sure)
run in CGA.  SSI's Dragonlance series (the early ones like
Heroes of the Lance and Pool of Radience) run in CGA.  King's
Quest 1 and 2 were CGA.

I have some (If you're not picky about having the box) if you
wanna buy used.
	   Ultima 3:  5.25"  Docs & Map but no box        : $10
           Wizardry:  5.25"  Docs & Cheat maps, no box    : $10
Heroes of the Lance:  3.5"   Box but no Docs              : $10
   Pool of Radience:  3.5"   Dox & Box(req 2 floppy or HD): $15
Microsoft Flt. Sim.:  5.25"  Dox (a book) no box          : $10
        Wizard Wars:  5.25"  Box & Dox                    : $10

      Hard Hat Mack:  5.25"  Dox = box (Donkey Kong-like) : $ 5
             Archon:  5.25"  Dox = box (Battlechess-like) : $ 5

I have the Docs to Kings Quest 1 & 2 as well as Ultima 2, but
need to look around for the disks -- they'll be 5.25": $10 each.

Also:  The 5.25" are 'bootables' i.e. the 5.25" has to be drive 'a:'.
     <:=--=:><:=--=:><:=--=:><:=--=:>\|/<:=--=:><:=--=:><:=--=:><:=--=:>

            msh@te6000.otc.lsu.edu                  -=( Scott )=-

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    |   Star Trek ][ : The Wrath of Khan (aboard Regula-1 starbase)     |
   \ McCoy:  "Where are we going?"                                       /
  --  Kirk:  "Where they went."                                          --
   / McCoy:  "What if they went NOwhere?"                                \
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	         	Note: One Planet is all you get.
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 20:28:48 CDT
Reply-To:     Albert Foo <C580503@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
From:         Albert Foo <C580503@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      AudioWare Sound System (SoundBlaster Clone?)

An advertisement in one of the computer mail order catalog has a section
for this "AUDIOWARE Sound System":

 * Include Audioware board. 3" full-range speakers with amplifier
   (4 watts/channel), microphone, 5 1/4" diskette and user guide.
 * 11 voice FM music synthesizer
 * One Digitized voice channel
 * Built-in MIDI interface and Joystick port
 * Compatible with AdLib and Sound Blaster
 * Made by Leading Technology. Price: $99.99 (S/H:$7.50)

Anybody on this list know about this music/sound card system? It is a
SoundBlaster/Adlib clone? Will be able to run the softwares which require
the Adlib/SoundBlaster option? If you have any info, please post or
email to me. I am also interested in any of the soundblaster/adlib clone
card out the in market. Anyone using the "Thunderboard"? Please email me
some info. if you know.

Thank you.
Albert Foo

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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 18:15:00 EST
Reply-To:     Bart Simpson <CVITEK@DREW.BITNET>
From:         Bart Simpson <CVITEK@DREW.BITNET>
Subject:      FTP Games

        Hi there.  I was wondeirng if anyone can recomend some good games (or
demos) that are available to FTP.  (Preferably at the FTP.ULOWELL.EDU site).  I
have already gotten some, but I don't know which ones arethe "good ones" to get.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


                        Chris
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 11:12:04 +0930
Reply-To:     Parsley Necroscope <spriggbn@CS.FLINDERS.EDU.AU>
From:         Parsley Necroscope <spriggbn@CS.FLINDERS.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: Civilization/Specialists/HOW!
              14 Sep 92 08:47:00 EST.
              <9209141251.AA22873@adam.ist.flinders.edu.au>

i think you automatically get a certain number of specialists when your city
is big enough ie size 16 or so.
im not sure, but i think thats how it works.
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:57:59 -0700
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From:         CASTILLO@NAUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Pool of Radiance on Mac (another Q)

>In the IBM version, HASTEN is the closest thing I can find to
>QUICKEN.  It is a one-shot spell, and wears off eventually.
>By the way, it ages your character, to go and buy some potions
>of Youth at the Magic Shop in the only town left on the map.
>
>Other than hasten, I can't think of what spell you mean by
>quicken.

No, it isn't a spell.  Quick is the function that lets the computer
take over one of your characters for you.  To speed up a battle....
But I can't figure out how to switch back to manual.  Any ideas
anyone?


Ulysses.
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:56:26 UCR
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From:         FGARBANZ@UCRVM2.BITNET
Subject:      Looking for a game : Neuromancer

     Hi all,

When I first bougth a computer it was the old Commodore 64, I got a game named
Neuromancer and I loved it. I'd like to know if it's avaible for PC compatibles
If so, where can I find it...

                             Flavio Garbanzo
                             FGARBANS@UCRVM2.BITNET
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:41:00 LCL
Reply-To:     RSUD <RSUD.UHALL@MHSGW.HARVARD.EDU>
From:         RSUD <RSUD.UHALL@MHSGW.HARVARD.EDU>
Subject:      Outta this World

Hello, I have a text file that contains a "walk-thru" for Out of this
World.  I noticed that some people are getting stuck in the game.

I hesitate to post the walk-thru cause I believe it will be too much of a
temptation for you sleepless Out of This World players. Before you know
it, you would have read the entire "walk-thru", thus ruining the game for
you.

Should I post it?

p.s. I do not have an FTP site where one can get this file.

-Rajesh-
rsud@harvard.edu
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From: lin@franklin.ee.umr.edu (Austin Lin)
Subject: Msg to Stephane Hamel regarding "unofficial software"...
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 16:07:51 GMT
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       v-- To this guy

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Subject: Re: PC games for SALE... (Civilization & StarTrek 25th Anniv.)
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  Ok, here's the deal. I'm willing to exchange "unofficial" software. If you
like the idea, then e-mail me a list of software you are willing to exchange.
If, however, you don't like the idea, then just forget it...

  Before giving you any other info on how to get the stuff, I have to wait
for your reply...

============================================================================

The last time you sent me something like this, I replied in e-mail, telling
you I had no interest in such activities.  Yet for some reason, you keep
bugging me.  Please do you and me both a favor and keep a "not interested in
illegal activities list" as well as compiling your personal connections
black book, as I have no desire to propagate such activities, let alone
hear from you again.  I'm posting this to the net in the hopes that it will,
shall we say, encourage you to keep such a list, as I'm sure you don't
particularly care to have everyone on the net knowing what you're using it
for.

Austin
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 11:23:04 EST
Reply-To:     "Joseph R. Granto" <GLOCK@CHIP.CBA.UFL.EDU>
From:         "Joseph R. Granto" <GLOCK@CHIP.CBA.UFL.EDU>
Subject:      Sword of the Samurai HELP!

Does anyone out there know of or have a joystick fix for Sword of the
Samurai?


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Joe Granto                                      GLOCK@chip.cba.ufl.edu

"When the going gets tough, the tough get a GLOCK!"
    --some gun magazine...
"Don't clock'em, GLOCK'em!"
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 08:55:20 EDT
Reply-To:     PARGWE@MOREKYPR.BITNET
From:         PARGWE@MOREKYPR.BITNET
Subject:      Pyschic Warrior and MechWarrior

     I just recently picked up a used copy of Psychic Warrior, but
it didn't have any doc's with it.....
     Can anyone pass along some codewords and commands???


     At this same yard sell, I picked up a copy of Mechwarrior.
All that came with it was a partial listing of the codes.
Can anyone pass along commands?  And tips on how to jump.....
and land correctly.....  =)

signed
    Earl Pargen
    pargwe@morekypr.bitnet
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:27:00 EDT
Reply-To:     "Steven Heleski [Donley Computer Center]" <STEVEN@LTUVAX.BITNET>
From:         "Steven Heleski [Donley Computer Center]" <STEVEN@LTUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Expansion senerio for ULTIMA 7

  How many people have seen to expansion senerio for ULTIMA 7....
  ...How many people have brought it and play it...is it any good.

  Steven Heleski
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 10:22:56 -0400
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From:         BTS1@RTI.BITNET
Subject:      486SX upgrades

BRADHAMP@ASHLEY.COFC.EDU asks:

        Is it true a 486 SX is the most upgradable/expandable machine, able
        to be speeded up beyond other 486 machines?

Yes and no, mostly yes. The 486SX is designed to take 1 of several currently
available upgrades, plus other upgrades that have not yet been released by
Intel, maker of the 486SX and DX family of chips. The most potent upgrade
available now is called the Overdrive, which allows your CPU to process
instructions internally at twice the speed that it communicates with the rest
of the system via its hardware bus. So, for example, a 486SX/25mhz machine
upgraded with an Overdrive chip at a cost of (several hundred dollars?), would
process internally at 50mhz. If I read it right, this would make a Overdrive'n
486SX/25mhz functionally equivalent to a 486DX2/50mhz.

Recent issues of magazines like PC Magazine, PC World, PC Computing all have
good descriptions of 486SX upgradability, and generally rate an Overdriven
486SX/25mhz somewhere between the full-blown 486DX/33mhz and 486DX/50mhz in
performance, but your mileage will vary, depending on whether you're doing
compute-intensive or I/O-intensive work, etc etc...But, the reviews have been
uniformly favorable of the 486SX as a reasonably affordable, and very
upgradable way to get into 486 computing.

        Could a 386-40 DX with 64k cache and coprocessor slot be later
        upgraded to be as fast as a 486-33 or better?  How well would
        it run Underworld or U7 w/o being upgraded?

A 386/40mhz can run UW or U7 very adequately. It will get jerky sometimes, but
generally, it'll be just fine. OTOH, a 486/33mhz can run UW smoothly, like you
were watching a film.

The 386/40mhz chip is manufactured by Advanced Micro Devices, an Intel
competitor. Some companies offer upgradable PC's, including ones driven by the
AMD 386/40mhz. I don't know if an AMD-based upgradable PC can take an Intel 486
chip, I'd be kinda surprised if it could.

Or, you could replace the entire system board, which cost between $500 and
$1000 for a 486DX/33mhz board. That's about the difference between a 386/40mhz
and a 486SX or some 486DX/33mhz machines, however.

If you're looking to buy, DEFINITELY read up all you can first.
Hope this helps,

Brian Sweeny
BTS1@RCC.RTI.ORG
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From: sphillip01@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re:      Ultima underworld-Help!
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 07:50:19 GMT

In article <ID4697.D920913.T154352.OSBORNE@UNB.CA>,         Kim Osborne <OSBORNE@UNB.CA> writes:
> Hi, I am on level one in uw and getting frustrated! I found a broken
> sword and I don't know how to fix it. One of the skills I did choose
> was repair. Shortly after the sword I cross a bridge and meet up with
> a goblin who I cannot kill. For some reason ( I think it is his armor)
> my dagger brecks every time? Any suggestions? Oh, also I was down in
> the room with the orb and to get back to the level I began on I had to
> swim. Is this the only way? Thanks in advance!
> 
>                              Sincerely Yours
> 
>                              Kim Osborne
>                              <OSBORNE@UNB.CA>

To repair a weapon or armour U need an anvil ... there are a number throughout
the game, they cannot be moved ... You just have to go to one and use it where 
it is ... Think the first one is on level 3 ...


Trevor Phillips

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From:         96942392@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU
Subject:      RE: Wolf 3d

Hello,

I noticed this same problem with the vertical bars also.  The version I
used worked fine on my machine, but when I tried to use it on a different
machine, I saw the vertical bars, but the main view of the "dungeon" was
O.K.  I came to the conclusion that the graphics card must be at fault
because the pattern looked like something went wrong in transfering the
graphics out of memory into the graphics display.  Just to be sure, you
might want to try the version you got on a different machine, with the
same config.dat & autoexec.bat, but with a different graphic card.

Rick Johnson
96942392@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU
University of Wisconsin-Whitewater
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From:         Kim Osborne <OSBORNE@UNB.CA>
Subject:      Ultima Underworld

Hi, Just got Ultima Underworld and I don't know how to open secret
doors . Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance!

                             Sincerely Yours

                             Kim Osborne
                             <OSBORNE@UNB.CA>
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 11:42:51 EST
Reply-To:     "Mike Loux, 486-1406" <INFOSY11@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "Mike Loux, 486-1406" <INFOSY11@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject:      Keen Dreams and KiloBlaster

Hello all, lot of messages from me lately.....;-)

I have uploaded both Keen Dreams and KiloBlaster to ftp.ulowell.edu.  At
the moment, they are still in the pub directory, no doubt I will get a message
from the ftp dude when they have been moved.  I'll let you know when that
happens.

At any rate, Keen Dreams is pretty cool.  It plays for the most part like Keen
IV, with a few differences.  1) You don't have a raygun, you throw little
flower-bulbs at the monsters, which only stuns them for a short period of time.
2) You can't hang on ledges like you do in Keen IV, you either make it or
you fall.  3) You can't look down or up, so half the time you don't know what
you are getting yourself into.  4) No pogo stick.  5) For some reason, the
sound blaster option has been deactivated, but I can get Adlib to work.
Trouble is, there's no music, even tho you set it to play music.  One wonders
what's the scoop.  6)  The load and save interface is mouse driven.  Kind of
nice, actually.

The big difference in this one is that it was NOT, I repeat, ***NOT***
distributed through Apogee.  For some reason, ID chose to distribute 10 "lost"
games through Gamer's Edge.  The other games include 3-D versions of a tank
game and a fantasy "catacomb" game, based on the Wolfenstein 3-D technology.
Apparently they plan to release a whopper fantasy game very soon, thru
Ganmer's Edge, and the other games I believe you have to buy, otherwise I would
have thrown them on too.  Couldn't find them at the BBS.  Oh well.

As for KiloBlaster, I kind of got that one as an afterthought.  Haven't looked
at it yet, but one person sent me mail saying basically that it was a
disappointment.  Well, I guess I won't expect much, then....

Looking forward to seeing "The Catacomb Abyss", thru these guys, based on
3-D technology seen in Wolfie.  Should be pretty good....

Well, I'll let y'all know when these things get placed.  One more thing before
I go, anyone other than me play Keen 6?  If so, did you find the secret level
and how?

thx.

-Mikus

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      And everybody cried for more;
      When all she had to do was step into the light,
      For everyone to start to roar;
      And all the people cried: 'You're the one we've waited for'..."
                                                     -Genesis, "Duchess"
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 09:13:03 EST
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From:         "Mike Loux, 486-1406" <INFOSY11@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject:      Keen Dreams, FINALLY!!!!

I got a report that Keen Dreams was NOT on msdos.archive.umich.edu.  Well,
I tried looking for myself, but couldn't get a connection.  Oh well.  So I
checked ulowell to see if they had done anything about it.  NO.  So finally
I tried--once more--to upload the file to wuarchive.  This time, I was
successful.  So, if you want the Keen Dreams file (it's pretty good),
it's at wuarchive.wustl.edu in the /pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS directory under the
file keendm01.zip (in lower case).  This time, dammit, it should work!

Enjoy y'selves...

phew!!!

-Mikus

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      But on eliminating every other reason for our sad demise,
             They logged the only explanation left;
            This species has amused itself to death."
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Date:         Sun, 13 Sep 1992 01:34:00 EST
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From:         YONI@BROWNCOG.BITNET
Subject:      BBS's In Boston

Hey you Bostonians out there,
I've got a friend in Brooklyn,Mass who is looking for some BBS's in his area
to log onto. Have you got any numbers? What';s the best BBS in the Boston area?
He likes the online D&D kind of stuff.

On another matter. What's the deal with the FTP sites? Yeah, I logged on to
a couple which allowed me to logon as a guest. But what the heck do I do once
I log on? I've been trying to figure out the deal with the MUDS. How do I play
these online games? It gets a little frustrating. I type directory and it gives
me titles of all these directories which sound like games but I don't know.
Help me out here,thaank you.
YONI@BROWNCOG
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:13:00 EDT
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From:         COPAT1@ITHACA.BITNET
Subject:      Card games for MS-DOS

        Hello gamers:

        Does anyone know of a good game (shareware or otherwise) for cards?
I have the ever-popular Hoyle's Book of Games, but would really like a computer
version of Pinochle.  If the programming is for Windows, all the better.  If
anyone has information, please mail me.  FTP is OK, and I'll even buy a copy
from anyone willing to sell it.

                                Take it slow!

                                Merlin  -  COPAT1@ITHACA
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:03:04 EDT
Reply-To:     Turgut Kalfaoglu <TURGUT@FRORS12.BITNET>
From:         Turgut Kalfaoglu <TURGUT@FRORS12.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: SEGA ?! cheap....

Hi - I meant I got a Sega MegaDrive console for about $200. Well, dollar
is low now - so 995 French Francs make about $200. Yes, it included
Sonic. This was the cheapest I could find - it normally goes for 1300FF
here..  -turgut
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 09:51:40 HMT
Reply-To:     BRADHAMP@ASHLEY.COFC.EDU
From:         BRADHAMP@ASHLEY.COFC.EDU
Subject:      CD games

Has anybody tried these yet?  What are the advantages to a CD version
of a game, besides simply not having to swap floppies?

I've heard negative comments about the CD version of SWOTL.
Has anybody tried the Wing Commanders or Ultimas on CD?

Besides this supposedly awesome game, "7th Guest," coming out later
this year, I'm wondering what are some good CD games/CD versions of
games?


[the list has been deathly quiet lately....some input, please!]


bradhamp@ashely.cofc.edu
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