HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: b645zau@utarlg.uta.edu (JE Culpepper)
Subject: Re: Tailgated in the slow lane
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 01:34:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.140831.18962@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) write
> 
>Bullshit, my ass.  If you don't know the answer, perhaps a course in
>manners wouldn't be amiss (speaking of "selfish brats").  Colorado,
>California, and Oregon will all ticket you for obstructing traffic if
>you are more than 10MPH below the prevailing speed of traffic, no
>matter what the limit is (or that's the way the laws read when I was
>in those places).  I have no doubt that there are a number of other
>states with similar laws.  For example, I once had a police car
>leading me through the loop around Baltimore at over 15 MPH over the
>posted limit, because they were trying to clear traffic (it was the
>busy part of the day).  They just waved all the through traffic in
>behind him in the left lane.
> 
>>And she's perfectly right.  "Selfish Brats" pretty much sums it up.
> 
>Given your manners here, I don't doubt you are qualified to make such
>a determination.  Of course, inconveniencing everyone else on the road
>is certainly mature and selfless.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hmmmmmm.. let me see if I follow your logic here.. Okay I wake up at 6:30am 
and I decited to do 90mph on the freeway (I20 eastbound to 360 is a perfect
example).. so I get out on the freeway, and a few other of us 'elite' drivers
also want to do 90mph, so therefore, a group can break the law (speed limit)
and justify it because it is a group action, and those law-abiding citizens
who are doing 55mph are just stupid for not seeing the logic in breaking the
law... Gee.. I should go into politics..

Why even bother having a speed limit, your logic is "well its Tuesday I feel
like 70 is a good speed" and that is as it was posted "BullShit".... and I
would like for you to walk up to ANY patrol officer in Arlington, Ft.Worth,
and Dallas and ask that officer if its okay to speed, under ANY circumstance.

---------

Eric Culpepper               "Speed doesn't Kill, its the Impact"
B645ZAU@utarlg.uta.edu       "Keep your flames to yourself, I don't care!"
--my opinions are my own, not the university, employers, or Bugs Bunny.

>Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.
Newsgroups: dfw.general
From: harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 05:46:06 GMT

I wrote:

>> It is sort of strange that horns are rarely used around here.  

greg@sscvx1.ssc.gov (Greg Chartrand) wrote:

>Look like you havn't figured out that being the "blower" of your horn 
>invites the "blowee" to take his/her gun from under the seat and scatter 
>your brains all over the place. 

Actually, I don't use mine much, either.  My usual reaction is a rev
of the engine and a dirty look.  Well, maybe not a dirty look, but a
look as if to say to the other driver, "Geez you're stupid."

>> Here's a tip for the next time you have a run-in with someone driving
>> a vehicle with "radio operator" plates: Honk Morse code for "*sshole"
>> or "jerk." ;)

>Us radio operators generally try to stay out of the wy of the cowboys 
>on the road. If you insist on "honking us off" then try this--
>..   .-  --   .-   .-.  ..-  -

"I am a rut"?  Or is my Morse that rusty?  (It's been a looooong
time.)

Actually, I intended this for a case where the radio operator was the
offending party, not an innocent victim.

>That will get our attention, we will get out of your way!

Well, if I translated correctly, it would certainly serve to confuse.
;) 

Of course, I'd be willing to bet that your code is right and my
translation is faulted.  The only radio license I ever had was for
flying R/C planes... ;)
-- 
-----------------Greg-Harp----------------harp@netcom.com------------------
  "I think I've reached that point / Where every word that you write /
  Of every blood dark sea / And every soul black night / And every dream
  you dream me in / And every perfect free from sin / And burning eyes /
  And hearts on fire / Are just the same old song" -- The Cure
Newsgroups: dfw.general
From: jim@rwsys.lonestar.org (James T. Wyatt)
Subject: Re: where to find Waffle?
Organization: R/W Systems, Richland Hills, Texas, USA, 76118-5849
Distribution: dfw
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:19:29 GMT

In article <Bvwpwy.68A@sdf.lonestar.org> jmd@sdf.lonestar.org (James Dumser) writes:
>Does anyone know of a place locally that has Waffle?  None of the BBSs I
>frequent have it, and I'm having no luck with ftp mail servers.

I do. Version 1.65 in two .zip files (exe and doc). Call at 817-595-0571
in the evening sometime and we'll see if we can get to you. Floppy, BBS
w/ zmodem, ham packet, tcpip@440MHz, etc... is no problem. - jim
-- 
James Wyatt  KA5VJL  jim@rwsys.lonestar.org  Semper Gumbi - always flexible!
From: stephen@moclips (Stephen L Nicoud)
Newsgroups: dfw.general
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Date: 8 Oct 92 04:13:46 GMT
Reply-To: stephen@boeing.com (Stephen L Nicoud)
Organization: Boeing Computer Services Research and Technology, Bellevue, WA USA
Originator: stephen@atc.boeing.com


   On 6 Oct 92 23:52:20 GMT in a dfw.general article:

   In California and Washington State you can be ticketed for not
   moving right to let someone pass.

I've heard that that is the law in Washington, but I suspect that if
it is, it hasn't been enforced to any great degree, if at all.
Newsgroups: dfw.general
From: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Subject: Re: KNON Schedule
Keywords: KNON Radio	
Reply-To: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:30:19 GMT

You can get the schedule by donating some money to the station.
Well you can probably get it if you just go down to the station.
You should give some money if you like to listen to any of their
shows.  I only know for sure when the Blues shows are on.

Mondays:
      9 - 10am: Marks hotlicks -mainly acoustic/folk blues great stuff
9or 11pm - 5am: three different blues shows- all kinds of blues

Fridays:
      9 - 11pm: Best of the Blues - all kinds of blues
    
--------------------------------------
Maurice LaBiche   |   labiche@bnr.ca 
Newsgroups: dfw.general
From: machala@spdc.ti.com (Chuck Machala)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right? | can't we all just get along
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:27:48 GMT

harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp) writes:

>shane@utdallas.edu (Shane Davis) writes:

>>I think this should be
>>expanded to include on-board data entry into one of those signs which
>>scroll messages sideways.

>I've thought of this too!  However, since a friend of mine got a
>ticket for having "flashing lights on a non-official vehicle" I doubt
>you could get away with it. (He had a Christmas wreath with flashing
>LEDs on it hooked to his front grille.  I'm sure someone was going to
>mistake his Chevette for an ambulance.)

>>The strange thing is, people here don't use their horns (I do) when they are
>>cut off or offended by someone's driving. I take the attitude of the
>>Chicago/New York/Boston/etc. drivers and sit on the horn when cut off.

>It is sort of strange that horns are rarely used around here.  

>Here's a tip for the next time you have a run-in with someone driving
>a vehicle with "radio operator" plates: Honk Morse code for "*sshole"
>or "jerk." ;)

Driving in Dallas wouldn't be so difficult if everyone was courteous.
"Can't we all just get along" Rodney King.
--

     Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.

Chuck Machala-Semiconductor Process and Design Center-Texas Instruments/Dallas
From: mcdonald@dallas.sil.org
Newsgroups: dfw.general
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Date: 10 Oct 92 11:47:17 CST
Organization: Summer Institute of Linguistics, Dallas Center

In article <1992Oct7.193552.23829@utdallas.edu>, shane@utdallas.edu (Shane Davis) writes:
> In article <1992Oct6.114608.12340@sulaco.Lonestar.ORG>, allen@sulaco.Lonestar.ORG (Allen Gwinn) writes:
> |> In article <1992Oct5.094504.21@dallas.sil.org> mcdonald@dallas.sil.org writes:
> |> 
> |> >Can anybody tell me why Dallas drivers seem to have an aversion to passing
> |> >on the left?  I just don't understand why they would choose to pass on the
> |> >right when the left lane is open.  If someone could enlighten me as to why
> |> >I might not get so angry at them for violating such a basic highway
> |> >courtesy.
> |> 
> |> ...because there are so many idiots that insist on driving slow in the
> |> left lane.  I call the right lane the "Texas Passing Lane" :-)   The
> |> practice is common, and perfectly legal.
> |> 
> |> But I agree with you, it would be nice if people passed on the left.  I
> |> don't think its going to happen, though, until some sort of law is passed
> |> restricting slower drivers from the left lane.
> 
> One thing I have concluded is that Texas drivers are not crazy, they're
> stupid. The biggest hazards seem to come from idiots who realize at the last
> minute that they have to exit or who don't signal, things like that.
> 
> Drivers in other cities, like Boston, are nuts. I don't know which is worse.

They might be nuts, but predictably so.  There are unspoken rules about who
can cut off whom and how to do it, most of which stem from the liability
laws there. I never had any trouble driving in Boston (aside from the time
when I saw red, yellow, AND green lights all lit on one signal...)

Dallas, on the other-hand, is a nightmarish mish-mash of driving styles
from all over the country, and nobody drives in a predictable manner.  The
two odd-ball Texas laws about passing on the right being legal and people
on on-ramps yielding to people on the freeway only make it that much worse.

Dan - mcdonald@dallas.sil.org
Newsgroups: dfw.general
From: andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart)
Subject: Re: Tailgated in the slow lane
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:42:05 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

(fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>
>And could you explain why it is that you are on the freeway driving a
>good 10 MPH under the prevailing speed of traffic?  You can be written
>a ticket for obstructing traffic for doing this in some states, even
>if the prevailing speed of traffic happens to be over the legal speed
>limit. 
>
>-- 
>"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
> in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.

Bullshit.  The speed limit is 55, she's in the right lane, and it's her 
perfect right.  What states would this be in?

And she's perfectly right.  "Selfish Brats" pretty much sums it up.

Newsgroups: dfw.general
From: merlin@lerami.lerctr.org (David Hayes)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 18:24:45 GMT
Distribution: dfw
Organization: Not Bloody Likely!

In article <1992Oct7.192902.23721@utdallas.edu> shane@utdallas.edu writes:
>Also remember to drive half on the shoulder when exiting (e.g. from SB 121 to
>WB 114 near the airport) during rush hour to make sure the jerks who will
>drive past everyone on the shoulder can't get past. I used to cut them off
>when I had a '73 Pontiac, but I must confess I am a bit less brave with a '91
>model. I still make sure I tailgate the car in front of me when someone thinks
>I'm going to let him/her cut in to my lane at the last minute. I'll be damned
>if I'm going to wait my turn in a 1/2-mile backup (knowing I need to exit
>where the line is going) and let some jerk fly past 50 cars and cut in.

Much of the problem is that we have laws against tailgating, obstructing
traffic (regardless of speed), driving on the shoulder, etc, but the cops
*never* enforce them. When was the last time you saw someone ticketed for
weaving all over 4 lanes, thereby causing a traffic hazard? It's not illegal
if no one is ever prosecuted. :-)

I did see one time where the cops did something about people passing a
traffic jam on the shoulder. It was in New Jersey, on route 18. The road was
two lanes each way. Traffic was backed up about 10 miles. I sat in the
right lane for about half an hour, inching ahead, and watching a series
of a**h**les passing everyone on the right shoulder. I considered sitting
half on the shoulder to block them off, but I decided against it.

My faith was rewarded when, about 3 miles later, I found a state trooper's
car sitting on the right shoulder. Parked behind him were all the cars that
had been passing on the shoulder. The drivers were all standing in a line,
handcuffed one to the next. The officer arrested the whole lot.

Served 'em right.

    David Hayes    merlin@lerami.lerctr.org
Newsgroups: dfw.general
From: tmike@cmptrc.lonestar.org (T. Mike Howeth)
Subject: Re: Tailgated in the slow lane
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 05:23:44 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <84300101@trsvax> cls@trsvax.tandy.com writes:
|
|
|
|I'd like to know why when I'm going 55 in the rightmost lane of a four
|lane interstate, people feel the need to tailgate me to try to make
|me go faster.  If they are wanting to get off at the next exit, they need
|to either slow down or go around.  Actually I know the answer.  They
|are selfish little brats who never grew up.
|
|
|----------------
|Christine Siewert		Domain: Christine_Siewert@trsvax.Tandy.COM
|                 		  UUCP: ...!uunet!letni!rwsys!trsvax!cls
|Tandy Systems Software		    or: ...!decvax!microsoft!trsvax!cls
|

Then get your butt off the freeway!  Whose idea was it to allow women to
drive in the first place, I wonder?

--
tmike@cmptrc.lonestar.org                                               __
"Whoever said 'getting there is half the fun'                           \/
    has never ridden in a class 8 probe!" - K'Ehleyr
Newsgroups: dfw.general
From: greeves@kahuna.Arco.COM (Gayle Reeves - PRC C6609, X6691)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Reply-To: greeves@kahuna.Arco.COM
Organization: ARCO Exploration and Production Technology
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:38:45 GMT

In article 6pn@intellection.com, emcguire@Intellection.COM (Ed McGuire) writes:

       stuff deleted...
>
>Second, only the leftmost lane of the access road ought to yield to
>offramp traffic, mediated with solid white lines.  A yield for all
>three lanes of traffic leads to the preposterous notion that an
>offramp motorist can effect a lane change from the left lane into the
>center or right lane and not be at fault if s/he sideswipes a car in
>the process, instead of the ordinary rule that lane changes are only
>made after signaling and yielding to traffic in the new lane.
>
I agree.  I hope the engineers have figured this out also.  They have changed
a few of the exit ramps to be this way.  Hopefully, they will do the rest of them.

---
|  Gayle Reeves                  ARCO Exploration and Production Technology  |
|  Internet: greeves@arco.com    Plano, Texas                                |
|                                                                            |
|  As much as I hate disclaimers:  I am responsible for all opinions and     |
|  ideas expressed within.  ARCO is not.                                     |
From: jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett)
Newsgroups: dfw.general
Subject: Re: Modem Dailing to sdf
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:42:44 GMT
Distribution: dfw
Organization: is sometimes desirable

In article <Bvyt4s.17p@sdf.lonestar.org>, Sundeep Kumar writes:

> I am using a ProComm Mayes compatible 2400 Baud modem to dial to
>  sdf. I have a novice question : I have call waiting on my
> phone and would like to hear some kind of indication if I am getting a
> call. How can I do this ?

When call waiting clicks, your modem will probably drop DTR and break your
modem connection.


                                                Jim Pritchett


UUCP:  rwsys.lonestar.org!caleb!jdp
 or    utacfd.uta.edu!rwsys!caleb!jdp
Newsgroups: dfw.general
From: dave@dms3b1.uucp (Dave Hanna)
Subject: Looking for newsfeed
Organization: Infotouch Systems, Inc., Dallas
Distribution: dfw
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 22:07:26 GMT

I have recently got my system back on the air in a new location, and am
looking for a moderate volume news feed (some of the comp.sys groups,
comp.sources, comp.binaries, maybe a few others.)  I have a 9600-baud
modem and dedicated line.

Can anyone help me out?
Reply to dave%dms3b1@cirr.com, or by voice phone to (214) 358-4534
(business hours, though there is a recorder on it).

Also, if I can get a feed, I'd be more than willing to feed anyone else
that's a local call.  I should have quite a bit of phone line capacity.

Thanks for the help.

PS - If this is a duplicate post, forgive me.  I think my first attempt
did not make it out.
-- 
Dave Hanna,  Infotouch Systems, Inc. |  "Do or do not -- There is no try"
2876 Harbinger Lane, Dallas, TX 75287|                        - Yoda
(214) 358-4534                       |
UUCP:  dave%dms3b1@cirr.com          |
Newsgroups: dfw.general
From: gordon@sneaky.lonestar.org (Gordon Burditt)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Organization: Gordon Burditt
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 16:11:06 GMT

>It's real simple, people.  The old 'stay right except to pass' rule.

I wonder how to reconcile this rule with highways that have 4, 5, and 6
or more lanes going in the same direction.  If you're really expected
to stay to the right except to pass, who would use these lanes?  
A 747 making an emergency landing?  And nobody would EVER design a highway 
with an exit on the left, would they?  And you're not going to see any
highways with 5 lanes which splits into 2 lanes on the left and 3 lanes
on the right, are you?  Well, someone seems to be designing roads this
way.

					Gordon L. Burditt
					sneaky.lonestar.org!gordon
From: cpc@cup.portal.com (Chris NMI Cebelenski)
Newsgroups: dfw.general
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 13:40:14 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)


I'm not sure what it is about Dallas drivers, but they seem to be the
most inconsiderate drivers I have ever had the non-pleasure of driving
with.  First off, they would rather kiss your hairy ass than give you
a spot to get onto the highway.  NOBODY here knows what the hell to
do at a four way stop.  I've almost been hit several times at four
ways when (IMO) it was my "turn" to go.  The last time it happend
this jerk slammed on his brakes in front of me, got out of his
car and proceded to verbally abuse me.  When he started kicking
my car I got out and he pulled a gun on me!!  Needless to say I got
back in my car fast!  He fired two shots at my car, and I ran him over.
Who was at fault here???  I guess time will tell (after the court
date).
cpc
Newsgroups: dfw.general
From: gordon@sneaky.lonestar.org (Gordon Burditt)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Organization: Gordon Burditt
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:52:36 GMT

>I have a female friend who shot a man who forced his way into her
>apartment (i.e. obvious malicious intent). He very nearly won a civil
>case against her for his injury.  His lawyer made several cases: 1) he
>was high and therefore not in control of himself, 2) he was unarmed

IMHO, the law *SHOULD* say that if you voluntarily get drunk or high
(that is, you knew what you were drinking and it's not a case of
someone spiking drinks or forcibly administering alcohol/drugs/medication),
then whatever you do, you do intentionally, with malicious intent,
and with premeditation.  In other words, a drunk driver who kills someone 
by accident should be found guilty of first-degree murder.  This guy
appears to be guilty of breaking and entering, property damage, and
if he touched her - even with one hair - I'd find him guilty of assult 
with intent to commit bodily injury.

>(though he was quite muscular and much larger than she), and 3) the
>punishment for breaking and entering is not the death penalty (i.e.
>she had no right to attempt to take his life -- this one even pissed
>off the judge).  

					Gordon L. Burditt
					sneaky.lonestar.org!gordon
Newsgroups: dfw.general
From: machala@spdc.ti.com (Chuck Machala)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:00:13 GMT

andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart) writes:

>In article <1992Oct6.175220.23@dallas.sil.org> mcdonald@dallas.sil.org writes:
>>
>>Actually, the best thing to do is move right ;-)  In California and
>>Washington State you can be ticketed for not moving right to let someone
>>pass.  
>>

>  Yeah, but I'm talking about when I'm already doing 70 or 75.  And why
>  should I move out of the way of a tail-gater if _my_ relative velocity
>  is greater than the cars to the right of me?   I agree, you shouldn't

Ever heard of courtesy?

>  be in the left lane if you're doing the speed limit (55).  Seems like
>  most of these guys use a simple (to them) rule:  If you're going slower
>  than them you shouldn't be in front of them _regardless_ of how fast
>  you're actually going.

>>I try not to tail-gate (I was taught to keep one car-length per 10mph
>>distance to the next car) but since Dallasites don't often move out of the
>>way, I find that I have to approach more closely than I would like to
>>"encourage" them to move right.
>>
>>Dan - mcdonald@dallas.sil.org


>  And I'm saying it doesn't encourage me (and lots of other folks) to move
>  over one bit.  After all, you're required to have insurance.  Go ahead 
>  and rear-end me.  Might pay for some body work I'd like to have done. :^!

>  And speaking of relative velocity, why do some people dart from lane to 
>  lane when it should be completely obvious that the relative velocity of
>  the lane they are switching to is slower than the lane they left?  They
>  speed up thinking (apparently) that we're all going to slam on the brakes
>  to let them in.  Sorry.  Why should I do that if they can't judge the 
>  traffic flow and see that they're not going to make it?  I _don't_ speed
>  up to cut them off.  That would make ME a jerk, but damned if I'm going
>  to slow down just for them.  This is especially irritating when you're 
>  on the open road trying to use your cruise control.

Again, courtesy seems to be the operative word here. I let people merge even
if I have to slow down somewhat. The overall traffic flow is better.

>  Well, I didn't really mean to start a "road-flame" thread.  I just got
>  back from a road trip last weekend, so this subject has been on my mind.
>  I was mentally compiling a list of road peeves...

>  1)  People who don't use their turn signals.
>  2)  People who speed up when you pass them and slow down when they're in
>      front.
>  3)  People who insist on driving in your blind spot.
>      

I pass on the right because invariably there is some dik in the left lane going
45mph. The other reason is the police are usually looking in the left lane for
speeders. 

--

     Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.

Chuck Machala-Semiconductor Process and Design Center-Texas Instruments/Dallas
From: tony@jassys.UUCP (Tony Holden)
Newsgroups: dfw.general
Subject: Re: Experience with Direct Computer
Date: 15 Oct 92 02:31:16 GMT
Distribution: dfw
Organization: HSC CO.

matt@ra.oc.com (Matthew Lyle) writes:
> Anybody out there had an experience with Direct Computers, specifically
> relating to Apple Macintosh systems.

Not with macs.  But we've had good luck with them.


-- 
Tony Holden					live on the edge,
tony@jassys					  Bank in Texas
jassys!tony@rwsys.lonestar.org
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