From: 01saeid@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Few remarks about discussion on Baha'i Faith.
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:44:29 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Jul21.104425.6862@cco.caltech.edu>, bes@cco.caltech.edu (Behnam Sadeghi) writes:
> Concerning:  The authenticity of the Qur'an and of Hadith.
> 
Dear Behnam;
I have read your article and I am sorry for not replying to you soon.
I read your reply and frankly did not get very much out of it. One thing
that I would like for you to do is not to post my article back again.
This makes me believe that you really do not read my articles and simply
pick a paragraph and elaborate on that. As an example I only post back
one of your answers to my paragraphs.
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>> ...
>>Instead he and all the others in the past somehow claimed to be the last
>>prophets. It is due to the imperfection of the humanity that the words
>>have to be twisted around. Just the same as current political game with in
>>the American system in order to win the election.
>>...
> 
> Frankly, I am surprised to hear a Bahai compare the Messenger of God
> to a politician who would want to mislead people.
> 
> Behnam Sadeghi
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My dear frind, I had half of a page writing prior to making my point and
you just took the last paragraph and made a comment about it. 
Unfortunately this has been the trend for most of the articles posted
in this news group in the last while.
This also makes me to believe that you do not understand correctly what
I wrote other wise you did not refer back to them as often. 
A correct way of exchanging ideas in this manner is for each of us
to read others ideas, think about them and write to answer the articles
or make new points. So I start by refering to your points regarding
the correctness of Qur'an.

My friend, I am not against the correctness of Qur'an. Moreover, as a
Bahai I an instructed to beleive in Qur'an as the holy book of Islam.
But as person with the current standards of technology I have my doubts
and that is why I am looking to find a more current book where the information
in that book is according to the new era where I am living in. I do not
deny the correctness of the book but what I am saying is that I simply
need a new book since I am living in the new era.
I don't believe it when you say that Qur'an was memorized and preserved
correctly. You as human when try to memorize something can only memorize
it for so long and then start to imagine the words either shorter or longer
than they were. As far as I am concern the compilation of Qur'an took
almost four hundred years. Now you tell me it is the exact words of the
prophet. I am saying I have a hard time believing in that.

Regadring the Ahadith you mention that many of the ahadiths have to be
analysed carefully and if any of them are against Qur'an they can not
be believed in. I am asking who is to take the task to analyse them.
So many diversity in Isalmic religion that makes me wonder who has the
right to analyse the Ahadiths. Who has the right to analyse the Qur'an.
Don't you think that giving the authority to someone to analyse Qur'an
and then giving the authority to someone else to do the same thing
will cause anarchy. I believe there is an anarchy in Moslim religion as
to who is saying the right thing and who has the right to analyse.
To become a Moslim Scholar you have to become familiar with all aspects
of Islam and finally you have to start analysing the events and Qur'an.
In one of your articles you mention a method to find the correctness
of Ahadith. Frankly I still stayed confused because you say that stick
to one analyser and do not leave it even if it is wrong.
I ask you why there is so much analyses of the word of god that I have to
be confused in choosing the right word and I always have to be scared that
if I ever chose the right Mullah for my analyses or even if half way trough
my life I find that I don't like the analyses I can replace the ideas
of that Moslim Scholar with another and I will be fine.

I am sorry but this way of life if too complicated for me and there is more
in this life than fighting over analyses and correctness. I think things had
to be keep in one piece at the beginning otherwise the wall will start cracking
as it looks in the Moslim religion.

In the end My friend I do not make similarity between the Messanger of god
and the politics today. I am telling you that look that inefficiency of the
human language to deal with the situations and obviously you either did not
get my point or you went on assuming that by cutting my article you can fool
me.

Saeid
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