HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: watsonb@alcohol.ecn.purdue.edu (Bradley S Watson)
Subject: Re: I wanna do her over...
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:35:50 GMT

>>>and Playboy magazines among others) it should be interesting to see
>>>how people  
>>>defend her if she makes an movie, the sole purpose of which is to
>>>watch her  
>>>have sex with someone; "It's not porn, it's just more ART" 
>>
>>If, in fact, Madonna actually made a porno film, I have no doubt that
>>it would end her career, at least as a major figure in the
>>entertainment industry.  The public (at least those with any degree of
>>appreciation of "art") would likely reject such a compromise of
>>principles.
>>
>Well, when the fact that she had already made porno films became public, and
>even when one of the films (I think it was called 'A Certain Sacrifice')
>went on general video sale (you can buy it in record shops here in the UK)
>it didn't seem to hurt her popularity. Why should it be different with a
>new film?

By no stretch of the imagination can 'A Certain Sacrifice' by classified
as a porno film.  The only nudity in the entire film is one scene where
Madonna is topless.  That scene lasts less than a minute.  

Bradley
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: jussiep@evitech.fi (J Erik Patynen)
Subject: Story of Pocahontas
Keywords: Pocahontas
Organization: EVITECH
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:48:36 GMT

HI

'Romeo and Juliet' I'm familiar with but what is this story of 
Pocahontas? The first female representative of the New World?

If the story is too long to being told here, please, tell the 
literature reference, where I can find the whole thing.

Thanks in advance


-- 


              *******************************************                
              * Erik P{tynen   jussiep@evtol.evitech.fi *
From: s0454850@let.rug.nl (J.P. Prenger)
Subject: missing mail
Organization: Faculteit der Letteren, Rijksuniversiteit Groningen, NL
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:28:22 GMT

Hi there!
There were some people who e-mailed me, and who didn't receive any response 
from me. I'm very sorry for that, because some of the mail I received lately 
has disappeared (I guess I accidently deleted it). If it is you who's 
waiting for me to respond, sorry and please re-mail!

Thanks,
 
Jan Peter Prenger           :  `The rich are getting richer and the poor
University of Groningen     :   are getting drunk.` - Paul Westerberg
The Netherlands             :
E-mail: s0454850@let.rug.nl :

Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: lah@Cadence.COM (Lin A. Hendrix)
Subject: more, I still don't get it?#! and YOU WON!
Reply-To: lah@cadence.com
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:07:25 GMT

Well, I got some flak for my last posting.  I was accused of 
being against free speech and not having read alt.fan.dan-quayle.
Nothing really too terrible, but it got me thinking.
 
I'm signing off this newsgroup.  I was hoping for a forum to
speak with other Madonna fans.  It seems it has become dominated
with Madonna haters intent on making the newsgroup their own.

I give up, you win!  Let me know when there's a REAL newsgroup
for Madonna fans, I'll subscribe!

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"I know there's at least one sane person on this planet, and boy!
am I glad it's not me!"		--lin 
p.s. My opinions are not my own, they don't belong to Cadence either
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: s0454850@let.rug.nl (J.P. Prenger)
Subject: Re: Bill Clinton?
Organization: Faculteit der Letteren, Rijksuniversiteit Groningen, NL
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:35:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.152620.28764@ifi.uio.no> anderss@ifi.uio.no (Anders Solberg) writes:
>From: anderss@ifi.uio.no (Anders Solberg)
>Subject: Bill Clinton?
>Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:26:20 GMT
>
>J.F.KENNEDY + MARELYN MONROE = TRUE
>MARELYN MONROE = MADONNA
>MADONNA + BILL CLINTON = TRUE
>
>
>----
>Anders
>

J.F. KENNEDY = A
MARILYN (!) MONROE = B
A + B = TRUE

MARILYN MONROE = MADONNA: B = C

All you can conclude now is that A + C = TRUE
So, J.F. KENNEDY + MADONNA = TRUE !!!!!

And, as we all know, J.F.K. is dead. So, Madonna  makes love to a dead 
person. This isn't in the book! So, something must be wrong with your 
premisses! 


Jan Peter Prenger       * `Don't let me out... I know I'll kill again' 
University of Groningen *  (Henry Lee Lucas)
The Netherlands         *   


Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: jessop@ljohub.enet.dec.com (Class Dinosauria)
Subject: Re: The Official Madonna Fan Club
Reply-To: jessop@ljohub.enet.dec.com (Class Dinosauria)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:35:40 GMT



	I am no fan of Madonna's... (as I have stated in this 
	conference at least three times), but I believe that all
	the flaming that can be done has been done.  I've defended
	her, and this conference against idiotic posts by people who
	obviously argue and flame for the sake of arguing... to get
	a rise out of other people, especially the fans of Madonna.

	What other reason could there be for people who continually make
	snide remarks concerning the innocent and appreciative posts made
	by the true "fans" in this conference?

	There is an excellent conference for those of you who like to
	flame... it's called ALT.FLAME... check it out!  I think you'll
	enjoy it.  It is the perfect place to take any flaming directed
	toward Madonna and her fans... and you will find (I'm quite sure) 
	much support, since flaming is what everyone in the ALT.FLAME
	conference does...

>Fine I challenge you. Tell me that her great popularity is due to her
>musical genius. Cite examples that make her music deserving of the
>money she makes. Is she the most talented? No. Is the she greatest
>dancer? No. Does she have the best voice? No. Do her musical creations
>employ innovative uses of harmony melody or rhythm that hasn't been
>done before? No. Is she willing to do about anything to keep herself in
>the spotlight including publishing amateurish picture books that
>pretend to be controversial? Ah ha.

	...and I challenge you to cite examples of why she ISN'T a 
	musical genius.  I'd also like you to define "Musical Genius."
	And, lastly... I'll be waiting to see your response to this
	post in ALT.FLAME


	Mike
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: tjwu@athena.mit.edu (Thomas J Wu)
Subject: Re: I just love madonna!!!
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:58:08 GMT

In article <QLH.75.722294764@mthvax.ws.ms.edu> QLH@mthvax.ws.ms.edu (Quinzian  L. Hao) writes:

   HI ALL YOU FUCKING FROOTLOOPS

   MADONNA IS A SCABIE FUCKING CARBUNCLE PUSS DRIPPING PIECIE OF SHIT WHO EATS 
   CUM AND PERIOD AND LICKS COCKS AND CLITS AND ASSHOLE SHIT FROM DOGS AND I 
   WOULDNT FUCK HER WITH A BIG SPIKED NIGGER BLACK DILDO FROM A MILE AWAY 
   BECAUSE SHE CAUSED AIDS AND HAS AIDS AND ANYBODY WHO TOUCHES HER PUSS FILLED 
   STINKY CRUSTY CUNT WILL DIE OF AIDS AND SHE MAKING MONEY BY FUCKING OVER 
   STUPID AMERICANS BEFORE SHE DIE AND ALL SHE NEEDS NOW IS A BIG COCK INSTEAD 
   OF A CLIT SO SHE CAN FUCK HERSELF A FEW TIMES LIKE SHES FUCKING ALL OF YOU 
   FOR YOUR MONEY AND NO SELF RESPECTING ORIENTAL WOULD HAVE ANYTHING TO DO 
   WITH HER EXCEPT TO MAYBE TEACH HER SOME MANNERS AND GET RID OF HER ATTITUDE 
   AND TEACH HER TO BEHAVE LIKE EVERY FEMALE SHOULD AND STAY HOME AND COOK 
   DINNER AND CLEAN HOUSE FOR HER MAN AND KISS HIS FEET WHEN HE COME HOME FROM 
   WORK

   YOU ARE ALL STUPID FOR LIKING HER AND SHE SUCKS



   Quinzian  L. Hao       CS '95!!!!      Amerika is the Opressor


Whoops, looks like Quinzian left his terminal unattended and forgot to
log out.  Sending him hate mail would probably be a mistake...


Thomas Wu
Internet:  tjwu@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Killans - First And Last And Always)
Subject: Re: I wanna do her over...
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 20:37:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.114320.28482@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com.mrg.uswest.com> greg_bradt@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com (Greg Bradt) writes:
>
>>and Playboy magazines among others) it should be interesting to see
>how people  
>>defend her if she makes an movie, the sole purpose of which is to
>watch her  
>>have sex with someone; "It's not porn, it's just more ART" 
>
>If, in fact, Madonna actually made a porno film, I have no doubt that
>it would end her career, at least as a major figure in the
>entertainment industry.  The public (at least those with any degree of
>appreciation of "art") would likely reject such a compromise of
>principles.
>
Well, when the fact that she had already made porno films became public, and
even when one of the films (I think it was called 'A Certain Sacrifice')
went on general video sale (you can buy it in record shops here in the UK)
it didn't seem to hurt her popularity. Why should it be different with a
new film?

Anyway, we'll soon see when her 'erotic thriller' is released next year.
Hmm, I've forgotten the name of it too, it might be 'Body of Evidence' or
I could just be getting it confused with another film.

Mike
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: sbiles@nmsu.edu (Susannah E Biles)
Subject: challange...
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: alt.fan.madonna
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:24:29 GMT


"Tell me that her great popularity is due to her musical genius"

Okay..her popularity is due to her musical genius!

"Is she the most talented?"

Loaded question and quite unfair. First of all, if you continue to
insist in dragging out Beethoven and Verdi, I would have to say, No,
she is not the most talented compared to them. Or to artists like
Billy Joel, Pat Metheny, Quincy Jones, David Sandborn, Harry Connick
Jr., etc. BUT...as popular as these artists are..they are NOT as
popular as Madonna. WHY??? Well, perhaps her music is more appealing
to the masses...eh?????

"Is she the greatest dancer?"

Again..compared to whom? To Barisnikov? I would have to say ... nope.
But compared to some of her "peers" like Janet Jackson, Paula
Abdul.....Axl Rose...I would have to say...YUP!

"Does she have the best voice?"

AGAIN..compared to whom? Using the three examples above..I would say
yes. Compared to Whintney Houston or Mariah Carey I would say no..but
their music isn't as popular...hmmmm...beginning to see a common
thread here???

"Do her musical creations employ innovative uses of harmony, melody,
or rhythm that hasn't been done before?"

WHO DOES???? (except for some of the jazz fusion artists mentioned
above)

"Is she willing to do about anything to keep herself in the spotlight
including publishing amateurish picture books that pretend to be
controversial?"

PRETEND???? Take a good look around you! It has been taken off the
shelves in many cities (including my own...) and I know of public
libraries who have stated that they refuse to carry it. 
BESIDES..looked in your handy dandy dictionary lately???
	
	Controversy: A discussion of a question in which opposing opinions
	clash; debate; disputation. A quarrel; a dispute. A controversy may be
	oral, but is commonly in writing , and is frequently continued for a
	long period of time, many persons taking part in it.

hmmmm...just reading this news group makes the above sound VERY
familiar. so, AH HA!

Besides, she can only be in the spotlight if we (the audience) give
her notice, right? The fans, the controversy, the 'madonna haters'
etc., all give her her spotlight.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Killans - First And Last And Always)
Subject: Re: I wanna do her over...
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 01:35:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.163550.942@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> watsonb@alcohol.ecn.purdue.edu (Bradley S Watson) writes:
>
>By no stretch of the imagination can 'A Certain Sacrifice' by classified
>as a porno film.  The only nudity in the entire film is one scene where
>Madonna is topless.  That scene lasts less than a minute.  
>
Hmm, it looks like the Madonna Hype Machine has been working overtime on
this one, because the media certainly made it out to be a 'porn' film. Of
course, I wouldn't know as I've never seen it...

Mike
From: Joseph.J.Marcheso.Jr.@dartmouth.edu (Joseph J. Marcheso Jr.)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
Subject: Re: I wanna do her over...
Date: 16 Nov 92 03:12:04 GMT
 <s1070619.721302800@giaeb> <TORKEL.92Nov9230327@bast.sics.se> 
 <1992Nov15.204127.22183@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>  
 <TORKEL.92Nov15222430@bast.sics.se>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <TORKEL.92Nov15222430@bast.sics.se>
torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen) writes:

>  Nope. People who complain bitterly about Madonna's success on the grounds
> that she has no great artistic talent are merely tedious. The disturbed
> ones are usually easily recognized by the "I hate that slut" character of
> their revolting tirades.

As much as I HATE to be tedious to those time conscious Madonna fans,
Do you honestly think that she can do no musical wrong? I mean even
Beethoven. Verdi Wagner had to contend with the critics. Even when B, V
& W (It goes w/out saying that those three and Madonna aren't even in
the same galaxy in terms of musical thought) publicly ignored them they
still privately took some of their suggestions. She should take the
critisicm, shut up and maybe she'll learn a thing or two about music...


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$,
Joe Marcheso
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: greg_bradt@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com (Greg Bradt)
Subject: Re: I wanna do her over...
XUserAgent: Nuntius v1.1b3
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Date: 16 Nov 92 17:02:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.203744.21966@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> Killans 
First And Last And Always, mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu writes:

>>If, in fact, Madonna actually made a porno film, I have no doubt that
>>it would end her career, at least as a major figure in the
>>entertainment industry.  The public (at least those with any degree
of
>>appreciation of "art") would likely reject such a compromise of
>>principles.

>Well, when the fact that she had already made porno films became
public, and
>even when one of the films (I think it was called 'A Certain
Sacrifice')
>went on general video sale (you can buy it in record shops here in
the UK)
>it didn't seem to hurt her popularity. Why should it be different
with a
>new film?

I've heard of that film, but I know very little about it.  I got the
impression that it was more of a rather amateurish low budget film.  I
hadn't heard of it referred to as porno (as typlified by films which
are 90% very graphically filmed sex acts and 10% excuses to change
partners).  If anybody can provide a broader and more detailed
description of "A Certain Sacrifice" I'd be very interested in knowing
more about it.

Actually, I worded my comment poorly.  I meant to say that if she made
a porno film _now_ that her career would likely suffer.  It is easier
to forgive poor judgement in an artist's earlier days when struggling
to make ends meet.  But, even so, it indicates that her current sexual
attitudes are indeed genuine, and not just marketing hype.

>Anyway, we'll soon see when her 'erotic thriller' is released next
year.
>Hmm, I've forgotten the name of it too, it might be 'Body of
Evidence' or
>I could just be getting it confused with another film.

I'm looking forward to it, as well.  I enjoy a good thriller, and I
enjoy well done eroticism.  The combination could be dynamite.  Or...
it could be crap (after all, 90% of everything is).  But I'll stand by
my prediction that if it is porno, as I defined above, then it could
seriously damage Madonna's status as cultural icon.

Greg Bradt  aka  ()The Lensman()
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: franksb@bmdhh155.bnr.ca (Frank Stuart-Brown)
Subject: Re: more, I still don't get it?#! and YOU WON!
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:47:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.180725.16268@Cadence.COM>, lah@Cadence.COM (Lin A. Hendrix) writes:
|>  
|> I'm signing off this newsgroup.  I was hoping for a forum to
|> speak with other Madonna fans.  It seems it has become dominated
|> with Madonna haters intent on making the newsgroup their own.
|> 
|> I give up, you win!  Let me know when there's a REAL newsgroup
|> for Madonna fans, I'll subscribe!
|> 

Yes, these are my sentiments. I rate Madonna as a beautiful, passionate and
intense woman, who is also a very,very shrewd business lady.	

I get a definite impression of jealousy from all the hate-hackers on this	
newsgroup.
From: Joseph.J.Marcheso.Jr.@dartmouth.edu (Joseph J. Marcheso Jr.)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
Subject: Re: Madonna the hypocrite
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:15:15 GMT
 <1992Nov19.103743.16476@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com.mrg.uswest.com>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article
<1992Nov19.103743.16476@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com.mrg.uswest.com>
greg_bradt@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com (Greg Bradt) writes:

> What we have here is a classic case of "foot in mouth" disease.
> 
> If Ken had read the book in question (yes, it DOES have words, quite a
> few of them) he would know that it was prefaced with the statement
> that the book was one of "fantasies", and that if one wishes to act
> out one's fantasies that one must be aware of the possible
> consequences (including AIDS), and be very careful to take appropriate
> precautions and avoid unnecessary risks.
> 
> It's easy to find inconsistancy if you only see the surface of things.
> 
> Greg Bradt  aka  ()The Lensman()


That may be true but are you going to TRY and tell me that she
practices monogamy? What about her movie? and the stories that she
picks up Latino men  while driving around in her limo? What about all
her lesbian affairs? Do you really think that she has a relationship
with EVERY man/woman before dropping them and getting involved with
other people? She's a lot of things but this ain't one of them.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Killans - First And Last And Always)
Subject: Re: I wanna do her over...
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 04:29:25 GMT

In article <TORKEL.92Nov15222430@bast.sics.se> torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen) writes:
>In article <1992Nov15.204127.22183@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mcollins@nyx.cs.du.
>edu (Killans - First And Last And Always) writes:
>
>   >But then, I guess by the standards of a society which elevates such banal
>   >drivel to the heights of worship, I *must* be psychologically disturbed.
>
>  Nope. People who complain bitterly about Madonna's success on the grounds
>that she has no great artistic talent are merely tedious. The disturbed
>ones are usually easily recognized by the "I hate that slut" character of
>their revolting tirades.


Awwwww, can't I be psychologically disturbed? Pleeeese?

:-)

Mike
From: Joseph.J.Marcheso.Jr.@dartmouth.edu (Joseph J. Marcheso Jr.)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
Subject: Re: The Official Madonna Fan Club
Date: 16 Nov 92 03:02:39 GMT
 <1992Nov15.031041.5467@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>  
 <TJWU.92Nov15172237@e40-008-4.mit.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <TJWU.92Nov15172237@e40-008-4.mit.edu>
tjwu@athena.mit.edu (Thomas J Wu) writes:

> I have in the past and will continue to defend her on musical and artistic
> grounds.

Fine I challenge you. Tell me that her great popularity is due to her
musical genius. Cite examples that make her music deserving of the
money she makes. Is she the most talented? No. Is the she greatest
dancer? No. Does she have the best voice? No. Do her musical creations
employ innovative uses of harmony melody or rhythm that hasn't been
done before? No. Is she willing to do about anything to keep herself in
the spotlight including publishing amateurish picture books that
pretend to be controversial? Ah ha.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$,
Joe Marcheso
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: galt%peruvian.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Greg Alt)
Subject: Re: What's the relevance of ....?
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:19:33 MST
Followup-To: alt.fan.madonna
Reply-To: galt%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu
Organization: University of Utah, CS Dept., Salt Lake City

In article <s1070619.722508280@giaeb>, s1070619@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (YOGI *is* N.KROENERT) writes:
>    Man, you are sick. Why can't you be normal? Oh, I'm sorry, I frot, your
>    idea of normal is a bit stuffed up... Can't you have an enjoyably life
>    without differing from the norm? Why is it that everyne who is different
>    thinks they have a better life than those who are not?? Geez, that pisses
>    me off. I have been straight ALL my life, and have never regretted it.
>    Plus, I am in a much lower risk group for many diseases.
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[...]

>Well, all... It was fun getting you all riled up for a while... but the
>novelty does wear off, and besides, you are just a likely to change your views
>as a result of my post as I am in response to yours. Have a nice life, and If
>you get aids or any other disease as a result of your non repressed, fully
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>self expressive lifestyle, life in the happiness that you earned it.
>    And then kiss my ass. I warned you.


It is interesting that you make such a big deal about sexual orientation and
how choosing the wrong one increases your risk of diseases.  I think the 
original thread was something about Madonna having sex with other women.
I thought I would mention that monogamous lesbians are at the lowest risk
for AIDS and many other disease (with life-long abstinance being safer,
but generally not a reasonable choice).  And non-monogamous sex between
women is safer than non-monogamous sex with men.  I would imagine that if
you take into account the probability of husbands cheating on their wives
that non-monogamous lesbian sex would be safer than "monogamous" heterosexual
marriages.  This is for women only, since having sex with men increases 
the chances of being exposed to bodily fluids.



Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: tjwu@athena.mit.edu (Thomas J Wu)
Subject: give up... NOT! (was Re: more, I still don't get it?#! and YOU WON!)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:10:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.180725.16268@Cadence.COM> lah@Cadence.COM (Lin A. Hendrix) writes:
>
>  Well, I got some flak for my last posting.  I was accused of 
>  being against free speech and not having read alt.fan.dan-quayle.
>  Nothing really too terrible, but it got me thinking.
>
>  I'm signing off this newsgroup.  I was hoping for a forum to
>  speak with other Madonna fans.  It seems it has become dominated
>  with Madonna haters intent on making the newsgroup their own.

Have a little patience.  The flame wars are always the nastiest in the
beginning, but the S/N ratio eventually improves, like it is doing now.

>  I give up, you win!  Let me know when there's a REAL newsgroup
>  for Madonna fans, I'll subscribe!

This *is* a newsgroup for Madonna fans, present company included.
Don't let a bunch of flamers spoil things.

>  ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  "I know there's at least one sane person on this planet, and boy!
>  am I glad it's not me!"		--lin 
>  p.s. My opinions are not my own, they don't belong to Cadence either
>  ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Thomas Wu
Internet:  tjwu@athena.mit.edu