HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: garlick@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jim Garlick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: fddi on hp730, nfs performance
Date: 30 Dec 92 20:40:50 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: pitbull.ecst.csuchico.edu

Has anybody compared NFS perfomance between hp730's via FDDI versus Ethernet?

We have a group of hp730's acting as servers for some X terminals.  All user 
accounts reside on one 730 and are NFS mounted to the other 730's.

The config is something like:

730      730       730           xterm xterm    xterm
 |        |         |              |     |   ...  |
 |________|_________|______________|_____|________|__________________
                                                                     | 
                                                                     |  
730      730-----user disk       xterm xterm    xterm              router
 |        |                        |     |   ...  |                 |  | 
 |________|________________________|_____|________|_________________|  |
                                                                       |
                                                                       |
750                              xterm xterm    xterm                  |
 |                                 |     |   ...  |                    |
 |_________________________________|_____|________|____________________|

It is quite a bit slower to access a file via NFS than from the local disk
(timex cat hp-ux >/dev/null takes 0.09s of real time locally, versus 2.27s 
via NFS).

I thought if we could add FDDI interfaces to all the 730's and put them in a 
ring that runs around our machine room (where they are all located), we could 
keep our homogeneous filesystem and reduce the NFS latency between servers, 
plus provide a backup route between subnets and reduce X traffic through the 
router.

My questions are
1. Is NFS between 730's significantly speeded up on FDDI?
2. Is there a faster file sharing protocol available for HP's which could
   be used on the FDDI network (i.e. NS, RFS)?
3. since the 730's are physically near each other, is there an interface
   available that's faster and/or cheaper than FDDI?

Thanks!

Please respond via email.

Jim Garlick
CSU Chico
garlick@ecst.csuchico.edu
From: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: 9.0 on old 822/S  boot warning
Date: 29 Dec 92 19:23:31 GMT
Reply-To: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Western Ontario


just upgraded to 9.0 from 8.0 on my 822/S and have a couple of comments.

  - i did not do the LVM upgrade, can i do it later without a re-install?
  - the NFS is *much* nicer, finally i can export root access and directories 
    only

On my 822/S (vintage October 1990) i need a firmware upgrade to allow the
boot process to continue correctly. HP is doing this on Monday, but as it 
stands now, there is a TWENTY MINUTE pause just after these messages:
 
WARNING: Old HPIB firmware encountered.
Operations using this firmware could take a VERY long time.

they aren't kidding, you'll watch the disk lights flicker in a set pattern
for 20 minutes, and then it will boot. these messages are just after the ISL
hpux boot command, Santa knows what it is doing.
--
Lance R. Bailey  System/Network Manager         Robarts Research Institute
     NeXT/email: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca    box: Clinical Trials Resources Group
            fax: +1 519 663 3789                P.O. Box 5015, 100 Perth Dr.
            vox: +1 519 663 3787 x4108          London, Canada N6A 5K8
L'ETAT, C'EST MOE - All the world's a stooge
From: davidb@hpuadla.aus.hp.com (David Booth)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 00:59:47 GMT
Subject: Re: SCSI tape on a HP 400
Organization: Adelaide, Australia, Smallest HP DownUnder
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Adne Hestenes (adne@ddb.be.statoil.no) wrote:
: 
: hi,
: We got an HP 400, which has an SCSI connector, and we want
: to connect to it an 4mm DAT tape. This tape device has been
: moved from an 750 where it worked well onto this new 400.
: I followed the tape installation guideline in the manual for
: the series 700 machines, but it would not recognize the device
: after doing an mknod /dev/rmt/0m 54 ....

: 1. How do you check that the SCSI device driver is installed into 
: the kernel?

The "dfile" needs the driver "scsitape" in it. I usually put it right
after the "scsi" driver (for discs).
: 
: 2. How do you check that the tape device driver is installed?

See above. Doing a "what /hp-ux|grep tape" on my 8.0 system gives:
	PATCH_8.0 scsitape.o 1.8.52.3 92/01/28
: 
: 3. How do you install the tape device on an 400?

The device files I use are (including compression):
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     other     54 0x0e03c0 Oct 28 11:01 3c
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     other     54 0x0e03c1 Oct 28 10:21 3cn
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     other     54 0x0e0340 Oct 28 11:13 3m
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     other     54 0x0e0341 Oct 28 10:20 3mn
: 
: 4. Why isn't the tape installation procedure a part of SAM?

I beleive it is at HPUX 9.0.
: 
: I think we are running HPUX 8.05.

Not on an s400 you can't be.
: 
: Best Regards
: 
: Adne Hestenes
: 
: adne@statoil.no

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All opinions in this posting are mine, with no endorsement by my employer.
---
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Inet : davidb@hpuadla.aus.hp.com	DESK: David BOOTH / HP9061
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       191 Fullarton Rd.,
       Dulwich, SA, 5065, AUSTRALIA.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: pypm@trentu.ca (Penghui Ma)
Subject: missing /usr/lib/X11/sys.Xdefaults
Organization: Trent University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:47:14 GMT

Hi Merry Christmas

We just reload the os for our new HP 9000/400 workstation.  But I find
file /usr/lib/X11/sys.Xdefaults missing.  I would be very appreciated if
anybody out there can send a copy of this file to me.

Thanks


Penghui


---------------------------------------------------------------------
Penghui Ma
Department of Physics
Trent University
From: atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: TCPdump-like utility for HP
Keywords: tcpdump netmonitor
Date: 3 Jan 93 18:45:14 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, DC

In article <1993Jan2.194115.29845@ms.uky.edu> justin@hp750.ccs.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan) writes:
>Does anyone have a utility to monitor what comes across my network?
>I just want a tcpdump-like utility to see where all this traffic comes from,
>but of course, tcpdump doesn't like HP-UX 8.07. It likes practically pure
>BSD systems. I played with the tcpdump 2.2.1 distribution quite a bit last
>night, but it just isn't going to work..

  Just to second the comment, this really would be a very nice tool to
have on my HP.  My interim solution is to use a colleague's Sun (which
HAS tcpdump ALREADY) in an xterm opened onto my HP 730.

  The tcpdump(8) tool is not used quite so much as ping(8) or
traceroute(8), but it IS widely used by administrators of TCP/IP
networks.  I think of it as a tool that doesn't compete with a full
blown network analyser but rather as one to narrow down the location
of my problem (os, application, networking code, or the network
itself) to help figure out whether to pull out a network analyser.  In
a previous life when my life was more operationally oriented, I
depended on it.  Now it would be very helpful in my research.

  If someone with access to the kernel sources were to port tcpdump(8)
to HPUX/HP-BLS on the 7xx series platforms and anonymously donate it
to the InterWorks archive, a lot of us users would be most grateful.
Based on my understanding that the HP kernel uses networking code
mostly derived from BSD 4.3+tahoe/reno, porting tcpdump(8) should not
be a very hard problem (say 3 man-days) for someone with access to the
kernel.  I believe the canonical source archive for tcpdump(8) is
ftp.ee.lbl.gov (I could be wrong).  It is possible that someone at LBL
has ported it already to 4.4 BSD running on an HP workstation.

Ran
atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: mower@stein.u.washington.edu (The Lawnmower)
Subject: HP-IB and it's spec's
Summary: Question about HP-IB Specs
Keywords: HP-IB, HP, Spec
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:39:14 GMT



	I want to set up a parallel printer on a HP 340 (Don't ask Why) and
I was wondering what the Maximum length of a HP-IB line (How long can I run it
without some kind of repeater.  I was planning to use a HP-IB to Centronics 
converter to get it from HP-IB to the printer.


						Thanks

						Jack
From: ce1zztw@prism.gatech.EDU (Tommy Barr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: SUN CDROM on HP9000/730.
Date: 24 Dec 92 18:23:26 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


   I have an HP9000/730 running 8.07.  I also have 9.0 on CDROM, however
   I do not have an HP CDROM drive.  I only have DAT tape.  I do however
   have a SUN CDROM model 411.  Has any one added a sun CDROM to thier
   HP's.  
 
   Thanks for any reply.
 
   Tommy Barr     ce1zztw@prism.gatech.edu

-- 

Tommy Barr (404)894-2260           ce1zztw@prism.gatech.edu

Xref: sparky comp.sys.hp:14278 comp.windows.x:20447
From: toml@marvin.boulder.ParcPlace.COM (Tom LaStrange)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: keyboardFocusPolicy problem
Date: 21 Dec 92 15:39:37 GMT
Reply-To: toml@boulder.ParcPlace.COM
Organization: ParcPlace Boulder

In article <smr.724422189@hitkw14>, smr@pki-nbg.philips.de (Stephen Riehm) writes:
|> dkarr@sierra.com (David Karr) writes:
|> I experience similar problems when using HP's datebook program, I also
|> have everything set to explicit, and I can bring up the datebook with a
|> couple of keypresses, enter in a date and message, but in order to
|> select an event type, I need to use the mouse (whinge number 1), and
|> once I have used the mouse, the focus highlight around the current
|> widget is lost (whinge number 2), and I am forced to continue using the
|> mouse in this application until I close the window (at which point I am
|> able to fire up another one via the keyboard again.) (whinge number 3)
|> 
|> If anyone has found how to fix this, I would be very grateful to know
|> how!


I don't know if it will help but you should probably set the mwm/vuewm
resource "enforceKeyFocus" to False.  When set to True (the default),
mwm/vuewm is not playing by the ICCCM rules.  mwm/vuewm will do an
XSetInputFocus to top-level windows when it hasn't been requested to
and if I remember correctly, it does it with a timestamp of
CurrentTime!  Very anti-social.  I spent spent a bunch of hours
tracking this one down...

--
Tom LaStrange        toml@boulder.ParcPlace.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: tt@sulla.jyu.fi (Tapani Tarvainen)
Subject:  DeskJet 500C and HP-UX
Originator: tt@sulla.math.jyu.fi
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:23:46 GMT

Has anybody used the DeskJet 500C with hp-ux -- comments?
Is there an easy way to print X-windows with it?
In particular, will any xpr -device option work (with colors) --
is it compatible with pjet or pjetxl, for example?  If not, will 
there be support for it in hp-ux 9.0?  Or is there any optional
(hp or non-hp, free or commercial) software for the purpose?
What about Starbase or phigs?
--
Tapani Tarvainen  (tt@math.jyu.fi, tarvainen@finjyu.bitnet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: bt@irfu.se (Bo Thide')
Subject: Re: Solution to the high speed modem prob.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:36:51 GMT
Organization: Swedish Institute of Space Physics, Uppsala, Sweden
Keywords: modem

In article <kufeld_k.724786100@newshost> kufeld_k@edhp07 (Kurt Kufeld) writes:
>In <1gp1pvINNseq@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> mark@hpsanaeo.nsr.hp.com (Mark Bonsack) writes:
>
>>> I tried
>>> to get the hp to talk to the modem at 57600 buad, but couldn't do it.
>>> If anyone knows how to get that to work let me know!
>
>>There's no reason the port on the s700 shouldn't work at that speed.  Make
>>sure your modem is set to talk at that speed, and your gettydefs and inittab
>>are changed accordingly.  (The s700 ports are supported up to something
>>around 400,000 baud!)
>
>I asked this question of the response centre.  My uucp, etc. wouldn't work
>above 38400 (even with all the files properly modified).  The response
>was that there is code in uucp and other software that checks for specific
>speed settings and currently doesn't support anything above 38400.
>
>This has been increased to a limit of 57600 in HP-UX 9.0.

A step in the right direction.  But why stop at 57600?  Why not go all
the way?  Already today our Hidem 14400DLX modems support 76800 baud.
As another example, for a direct SLIP link it can be very useful to be
able to use max I/O hardware speed (460800 baud)!

>>-- 
>>Mark Bonsack
>>Hewlett Packard, San Diego
>>(619) 541-7319
>>internet: mark@hpsanaeo.nsr.hp.com
>
>-- 
>	Kurt Kufeld
>	Interprovincial Pipe Line Inc.
>	kufeld_k@ipl.ca
>	(403) 420-5330


Bo
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 /|F|\          INTERNET: bt@irfu.se      UUCP: ...!mcvax!sunic!irfu!bt  
 ~~U~~ ----------------------------------------------------------------sm5dfw-
From: cfb@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Charlie Brett)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:26:13 GMT
Subject: Re: LIF Disk format - Anybody??
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi) describes a problem with fbackup in
a NFS environment not backing up certain directories.

  I do not want to play down the severity of this problem, but these
kind of cases are not what I had in mind with my "silent data corruption"
reference. Your case is (potential) data loss, not data corruption. While
inspection of the index would have revealed the problem, the problem is,
for all practical purposes, indeed silent.

> HP knew about the problem, did not tell me, and is not going to fix it
> for HP-UX 8.0, however they did say it was going to be fixed in 8.0.

  Can you give, for the benefit of the audience, give an HP Service
Request number or other reference for this problem?

  As a general advice: I would advice to use the "-f machine:device"
option of fbackup, instead of using fbackup accross NFS mounts.

Frank Slootweg, HP, Dutch Customer Response Center
From: thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Changing Quantum PD425S bus address
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 16:23:28 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

In article <47747@ogicse.ogi.edu>
jinouye@columbus.cse.ogi.edu (Jon Inouye) writes:

|I am in the process of trying to figure out how to change the SCSI bus address
|of a Quantum PD425S internal drive attached to the core I/O SCSI interface on
|[...]
|I took the drive out of the cabinet and couldn't see any switches that might
|indicate the bus address. We received no disk drive documentation with the
|system so I'm currently at a loss on how to proceed. I would appreciate any
|[...]

LOOK at the underside of the drive in the area of the SCSI connector:

                                       |
                               [OO] SS |
                               [OO] EP |
                               [OO] WS |
                                       |
                               [OO] A2 |
                               [OO] A1 |
                               [OO] A0 |
                                       |
   --------------------------------+   |
         SCSI CONNECTOR            |   |
   --------------------------------+---+


The {A2,A1,A0} jumpers select the SCSI address, weighted 4,2,1 respectively.
"SS" is self-seek test; do NOT jumper.
"EP" is enable parity, DO jumper.
"WS" is wait-spin; no need to jumper.

There simply isn't enough room (height) on the 425S card for switches, hence
the jumpers.


Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com, thad@cup.portal.com ]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: bkp@csi.com (Brian K. Pheiffer)
Subject: HP 7xx problem with virtual memory (thrashing)
Keywords: virtual memory thrashing
Organization: Comdisco Systems Inc., Foster City, CA
Distribution: comp.sys.hp
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:38:47 GMT


I have found a serious deficiency with the HP-UX memory management and
was wondering if anyone else has seen this problem: whenever a process
require more memory than the amount of physical RAM that the system has,
the HP-UX operating system (8.05,8.07 & 9.0) start ``thrashing'', a
term HP uses to mean that the disk continues to swap indefinately
while the process makes no progress!  

We have seen this on processes requiring more than 32 Meg on a 32 Mb
720 & 730.  The problem disappears whenever there is more RAM than the
process size (i.e. we increased the system RAM to 64 Mb).  But this is
a rediculous solution, especially when the same process runs on a
similar Sun box w/o problem.

HP mentioned that it solved this problem with HP-UX 9.0, however, we
haven't seen that to be true.  Does anyone else know about this
problem?

Brian K. Pheiffer
bkp@csi.com
From: franks@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Frank Slootweg CRC)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:32:15 GMT
Subject: Re: HPIB in EISA slot on 9000/730
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, The Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

  You probably do not have the right hardware and/or software. DIL
(Device I/O Library) is not available on the Series 700. For DIL-like
HP-IB control you need the E2070A ISA (not EISA) HP-IB interface and the
(I believe it is spelled) "SICL" software. Please contact your HP sales
representative.

  The 25560A EISA HP-IB card is only for an HP cartidge tape drive and
selected (see HP configuration guide) HP HP-IB plotters/printers. Other
use of this card is not supported.

Frank Slootweg, HP, Dutch Customer Response Center
From: hm@hcshh.hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: How does 'mediainit -G' (guru mode :-) work?
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:00:47 GMT
Organization: HCS GmbH, Hamburg, Europe

In <BzMvzA.5zw@cup.hp.com> wk@cup.hp.com (Wayne Krone) writes:

>I'm curious as to why you want to use a sector size different from the
>default chosen by the disk vendor?  And how many other folks reading
>this want to do the same?

Isn't it true, that a larger physical sector size gives you 

	- better i/o throughput (if the driver supports it)
	- larger disk capacity

If one or both of the above can be archived with a larger physical sector
size, everyone wants it ....

hellmuth
-- 
hellmuth michaelis    HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH   hamburg, europe
hm@hcshh.hcs.de              tel: +49/40/55903-170         fax: +49/40/5591486
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: hshamans@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Harry T Shamansky)
Subject: Need to find an HP Test and Measurements person via e-mail
Keywords: e-mail, test & measurement
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: comp.sys.hp
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 14:32:50 GMT

  Sorry for the post to comp:

  But I have a friend who needs to contact by e-mail a person at HP
  in the Test and Measurment group who might be able to answer a
  technical question or two regarding an HP8510.

  Anyone out there who can help???

  please e-mail back to me (if possible) at hts@hertz.eng.ohio-state.edu

  thanks for the bandwidth

  harry


Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: justin@hp750.ccs.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan)
Subject: TCPdump-like utility for HP
Keywords: tcpdump netmonitor
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 19:41:15 GMT

Does anyone have a utility to monitor what comes across my network?
I just want a tcpdump-like utility to see where all this traffic comes from,
but of course, tcpdump doesn't like HP-UX 8.07. It likes practically pure
BSD systems. I played with the tcpdump 2.2.1 distribution quite a bit last
night, but it just isn't going to work..

Any pointers would be welcome. If there were some kind of reasonable
netmonitoring software from HP, I might consider it, since we get a 90%
discount on HP software, but a shareware/public-domain utility would be
best for my purposes..

Thanks for your time!

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jsm@fc.hp.com
 (John Marvin)
Subject: Re: How can I change HP 705 audio sample rate.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 08:01:09 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Workstation Kernel, Ft. Collins, CO
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.1 PL6]

Yngvi Sigurjonsson (yngvi@rhi.hi.is) wrote:
: 
: Is it possible to change the audio sample rate of HP 9000/705 without
: using the Alib stuff, and if so how? 
: I have found out that I can get the sampling rate with: 
: ioctl(des,AUDIO_DESCRIBE,&ad)
: The sys/audio.h file says that if the ad.sampling_rate is not 0 it is
: fixed, is that true? 
: 

The sampling rate is fixed (8000 Hz) on the 705, 710 and 425e. The new
generation of 700's (e.g. 715,725,735 & 755) support 7 sampling rates:

	8000, 11025, 16000, 22050, 32000, 44100, & 48000 Hz

	John Marvin
	jsm@fc.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: a722756@roper.mc.ti.com (W. Donald Rolph)
Subject: Re: Problems on VUE
Originator: a722756@roper.mc.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments / Attleboro Mass / USA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:35:49 GMT


Vue is very critical of the name service behavior, and wont comme up for even the
most minor glitch.  Since you are running DNS you probably need to check  that
your machine is in the dns database, that /etc/resolv.conf is properly configured
on your machine, and you may have to change /etc/src.sh to specify your proper
system name (this is the one I always forget).

Please note tha hps implementation of DNS only uses the remote name server, never
the /etc/host file!!  You are therefore sunk if the name server is down unless
you also have a secondary name server configured.

I have complained bitterly to HP about this "feature" and they indicate that I am
not alone in my complaint, and that it has been passed up to development for
action.  If it first checked the host file, then you could define the local
machien in the host file, and would be independent of the nameserver to support
firing up HP Vue.
-- 

Regards.
 
Don Rolph  a722756@pan.mc.ti.com WD3 MS10-13 (508)-699-1263
Xref: sparky comp.sys.hp:14397 comp.sys.apollo:4181
From: ezw0281@desc.dla.mil (Daniel J. Schulte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.apollo
Subject: HP 9807 ( INTEGERAL PC UNIX ) CAN YOU HELP?
Date: 28 Dec 92 21:28:57 GMT
Reply-To: ezw0281@descg1.UUCP (Daniel J. Schulte )
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp
Organization: Defense Electronics Supply Center

Now  *SOMETHING* completly different.

I am pleased to announce that I am *NOW* the proud owner of the wonderful
HP product called the HP9807 or you may know it as the INTEGERAL PC
a Unix lunch box circa 1984.

As this system does have some gray hair and I was supplied with limited
documentation and software, I want to know everything *YOU* can tell me.
Also tell me what software or ROM chips or hardware you have or know
others to have.
Also if you have any advice please pass it along

Daniel J. Schulte
Internet dschulte@desc.dla.mil

		
         		PLEASE OMIT SYMPATHY CARDS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: bennett@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Steve Bennett)
Subject: Ghostscript
Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 14:47:08 GMT

I see the latest version of ghostscript on the iworks machine is 2.4.1. Does
anyone know the features added to ghostscript from 2.4.1 to 2.5.2

-- 

#
# Steve Bennett (bennett@mot.com)
#
From: mkj@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Mary K. Jones)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:40:25 GMT
Subject: new HP-PHIGS Motif Widget!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA