HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Coming out to teachers...
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:36:05 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.010303.24382@polari.com> elf@polari.com writes:

>A few examples from the textbook:

With which I mostly agree.

>[ From "Homosexuality" (cp 17) ]
>
>     Some people have a mixture of both homosexual and heterosexual
>     tendecies, so they are bisexual.  Generally, bisexuals would rate
>     from 2 to 4 on Kinsey's scale.  Some bisexuals apparently live a
>     typical heterosexual life with their mates and children, yet enjoy
>     homosexual sex on the side in such places as "tearooms" (public
>     restrooms).
>
>[ Anybody also notice the complete failure to mention women?

No, actually.  Apart from the fact (stated only implicitly, at that)
that there are few tearooms that serve women, I don't notice any
gender-specificity in that paragraph.

>     Some bisexuals at one time may have been exclusively heterosexual or
>     homosexual.  They decided to try partners of the same or opposite
>     sex [sic], and liked it.  Some are single, others are married.  Some
>     lead a double life and keep it secret, others are open about their
>     dual preferences.
>
>[ Now how's that for wishy-washy?  Where are the numbers, the
>  statistics?

Where are ours?  It seems that we as bisexuals are frequently making
such statements, to explain the diversity of activity and preferences
within the bi community; I don't find this statement any more
wishy-washy than a lot of the things said every day here.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "Well, I've never been to heaven / but
\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      /  I've been to Oklahoma ..."
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /    -- Three Dog Night
From: sara@castle.ed.ac.uk (S Hopkins)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: good places to not fit in
Date: 15 Apr 92 04:47:35 GMT
Organization: News Addicts

ro@panix.com (r l reid) writes:

>Don - maybe we could get a little MC jacket made up for the cat.

Well my Mog'd make mincemeat of anyone tried to put her in a jacket ...

>Sara (gullfriend!) - I'd sign up for the brown hair hunt club - it's my favorite
>(tho I admit to practically a fetish for the combination of grey
>eyes and blond hair).  Bi-hairlial, as I've mentioned....

Hiya Ro, well I know what a hissa gull now but there's a whole lotta stuff
I'm missing, guess I'll have to go for the reading - or grunting - aloud
technique ...

Anyway it's nice to know there are some brown hair hunters out there,
I'm multi-hairial meself tho, so watch out **all of you**, Sara's
hunting you ...

Sara
-- 
 >{8-)  Sara Hopkins  (-8}<                      ______             ^
 Geography Dept.  Edinburgh Uni.  Drummond St.   \  / / Glorious OOO
 Edinburgh,  EH8  9XP,  UK. +44 (0/31) 650 2662   \/\/   Stereo  ++  
 >  sara@geovax.ed.ac.uk  < < Six of one, half a dozen of the other >
From: woodhous@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bi Quotes and Red Heads
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:34:42 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

Sandy writes:
>Tanaqui writes:
>>>Sandy writes: re excessive collaboration 
>>
>>Well, peg? Nothing exceeds like excess, so they say. So, the Seattle orgy is
>>Sandy, peg, Ellen & me so far..?
>>
>>Tanaqui 
>
>Well, gentlemen - don't be shy...

   If some kind soul provides an air fare, I vow to work off every last cent
of it...even counting the exchange rate. They don't call us "Down Under"
for nothing, you know...

   (BTW - came out to my first non-SO friend ouside of the GL Soc the other
day...)

--
  / Joe Woodhouse        / I'm just a sweet bisexual...   / Hello, there.
 / Latrobe University   /    (think - Rocky Horror)      / Threesomes are fun.
/ Melbourne, Australia / Music. Magic. Mathematics. Me. / I like cats & ropes.
From: sara@castle.ed.ac.uk (Sara's ElectroPostie)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Books to read; Snap Crackle Pop
Date: 10 Apr 92 21:25:39 GMT
Organization: News Addicts

h431@quads.uchicago.edu (heather e blair) writes:
>Oh, yeah, I remember reading this in the somewhere in St. Thomas.  The question
>was about incubi and succubi, demons that take, respectively, male and
>female forms.  (You have to have SOMEBODY on whom to blame those orgasms you
>have when you're asleep!)  Thomas asks whether a woman could get pregnant

More like, I have to have somebody with whom to have those orgasms I
should have when I'm asleep!  Anyone know where I can find some incubi
and succubi?

Sara
-- 
 >{8-)  Sara Hopkins  (-8}<                      ______             ^
 Geography Dept.  Edinburgh Uni.  Drummond St.   \  / / Glorious OOO
 Edinburgh,  EH8  9XP,  UK. +44 (0/31) 650 2662   \/\/   Stereo  ++  
 >  sara@geovax.ed.ac.uk  < < Six of one, half a dozen of the other >
From: kmj1@PL118f.cc.lehigh.edu (kate marie)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: bisexuality a fad? (was Re: Bisexuality and Furries...)
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:13:43 GMT
	<9313@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk> <1992Apr6.010136.24305@polari.com>
	<asuccop.702703354@milton>
Organization: Lehigh University Student Konsultants

In article <asuccop.702703354@milton> asuccop@milton.u.washington.edu (Annemarie Succop) writes:

	> I had a bi bf who used to mostly look at boys w/me.  It used to
> bug me; it made it hard for me to feel like *I* was attractive to him.  He
> says he does it 'casue he feels like looking at girls while w/me sets up
> what feels to him like competition.

my bf and i are both bi, and we look at men and women pretty equally.
it doesn't seem to bother either of us, and it gets humorous at times...

	> I never know if I quite bought that argument, but that's what
> happened.

	> I usually check out guys when I'm with gay or bi men, & more girls
> when I'm with bi or lesbian women.  I'm more comfy in general leering at
> men tho; I'm relatively uncomfy leering at women.  I feel as if most women
> get enough casual/unwanted attention on the street anyway, they don't need
> me, too.

don't yet know enough les/bi/gay people (in person) to know what i 
would act like...

	> Or maybe I'm just closetted...

	> Annemarie
	> asuccop@u.washington.edu

kate

kathleen marie jones      : Lehigh University, home of : instant .sig!
kmj1@pl118a.cc.lehigh.edu :      the Marching 97       : just add water!
From: sara@castle.ed.ac.uk (Sara's ElectroPostie)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Women are BLG, too! (was: Outing at the Oscars?)
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:23:25 GMT
Organization: News Addicts

pmm7@ellis.uchicago.edu (peggy boucher murphy (you had to ask?)) writes:

Lotsa sense about sexual abuse and being glb - *thank* you Peg for
talking such good sense.  Don't you just loathe the viewpoint that says
that women are "driven" to loving women by being abused by men; why the
fuck can't it be recognised that women love women through *positive*
reasons of loving women, not necessarily negative reasons of hating men.

Sara
-- 
 >{8-)  Sara Hopkins  (-8}<                      ______             ^
 Geography Dept.  Edinburgh Uni.  Drummond St.   \  / / Glorious OOO
 Edinburgh,  EH8  9XP,  UK. +44 (0/31) 650 2662   \/\/   Stereo  ++  
 >  sara@geovax.ed.ac.uk  < < Six of one, half a dozen of the other >
From: cen@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Missed opportunity
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:43:03 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAXcluster


 cjmchale@cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale) writes:

> one of the women there said "You could make a woman very happy."
> 
> I tried to think of a witty innuendo to give as a reply but, by Murphy's
> Law, couldn't until I got outside. It was only then I realised that I
> should have replied "I'm pretty good with men too."

<sigh> So many missed chances. I went to buy some tapes the other day with a
male friend, and the most stunning woman I have seen for a long time fell over
me at the counter, apologising profusely and for quite a long time. She seemed
genuinely sorry... pretty unusual.

I said "I wish I'd said "S'OK, it's not every day that attractive young women
throw themselves at my feet"...". I guess I was just a little overcome.

I couldn't think of any way to make it funny and bi-. Ah well.

Tanaqui

-- who has had an excellent week to make up for that. Thanks as appropriate |-)
From: rhialto@falu.sneakernet (Olaf Seibert)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re:  Bi Quotes
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:19:29 GMT
Organization: News Addicts with custom software

In article <1992Mar26.155801.5240@midway.uchicago.edu> pmm7@ellis.uchicago.edu
(peggy boucher murphy (you had to ask?)) writes:
>tanaqui again:
>>I had a motss redhead sharing the
>>room with me.
>
>mmmmm!  and i shamelessly start to drool.....

and look who's keyboard is getting wet...

>>& she was straight, but had the bed.
>
>what?	she wouldn't at least share?  (a quick non-sexual cuddle, for
>warmth of course...)  ;)
>
>>redheads don't
>>always say "Yes" |-)

*snik* (so as to introduce a new word here - synonym for sob)

><sob> say it ain't so!  (sorry, i'll get my redhead fetish back under
>control <struggle> oof!  mmmf!  argh!	<phew>	there.	got it.)
>peg

We could always dye our own hair flaming red, and then have fun looking
at each other! (just looking? naah!)

--
___ Olaf 'Rhialto' Seibert      B4f+-t-w--g+k+(+)svmrp+  rhialto@cs.kun.nl
\X/ How can you be so stupid if you're identical to me? -Robert Silverberg
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: rhiann@milton.u.washington.edu (Sandra Hereld)
Subject: Re: Bi Quotes and Red Heads
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 22:42:04 GMT

In article <20086@castle.ed.ac.uk> gtoal@castle.ed.ac.uk (Graham Toal) writes:
>In article <1992Apr12.095633.27105@u.washington.edu> rhiann@milton.u.washington.edu (Sandra Hereld) writes:
>
>I might have mentioned I have a ginger-ish beard...  (A very Scots/Norse
>trait, on brown-haired people)
>
>>goodlooking people be the politics queens and the fat people (not that there
>>isn't overlap #8^) be the sex everyday or I'll go mad, sorry about your
>>chandeler, bub, people. Pick your own favorite stereotype to break.
>
>I *think* the latter might be me, if I've understood you correctly.
>Not that I *do* of course.  I just go mad...
>
>G :-)

Sex mad and ginger bearded (Up or Down) are two of my *Faaavorites*.

                  
Now, if you could tutor Ada, I'l buy your ticket over here...

Sandy	We don't need more queers with good taste, 
		We need more queers that taste good!
  

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: rivk@quads.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis)
Subject: Re: Biphobia in TORCH SONG?
Reply-To: rivk@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 06:48:21 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.192503.9832@amhux2.amherst.edu> twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.212637.23389@osf.org> alan@osf.org ("Alan Hamilton") writes:
>
>>However, I always get angry when Arnold throws Ed out with a
>>disparaging remark about bisexuals.

I saw the play, and it may have just been the way the actors handled 
it, but in the production I saw that "disparaging remark" was fairly
clearly one person's emotional reaction to one other person's behavior,
using a generality as an immediately available form of insult without
any sense that the character or the playwright actually believed what
Arnold was saying. 

>So do I, and I hated the way Ed was portrayed through the first
>two-thirds of the film as a stereotypical amoral sex-thirsty bisexual
>slut.  It seems to me, though, that Fierstein is setting up this
>stereotype so that it can later be destroyed ... I may be giving him
>too much credit, or not.  I should read the plays, I think.

Again, not in the play, or not in the production of the play I saw.
Which, I'll admit, was astonishingly good at making its characters
real, specific people rather than stereotypes, but still... I saw
Ed as being a seriously messed-up person who happened to be bisexual,
which was neither cause nor result of his being messed-up. I don't
see anything wrong with that -- I sincerely hope that nobody is going
to try to tell me that bisexuals are *never* emotionally messed-up,
because I am fairly frequent evidence to the contrary! ;-)

>____ Tim Pierce              

	-Nora


-- 
Oseh shalom b'imromav, hu ya'aseh shalom aleinu v'al kol yisrael.
From: cjmchale@cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Top 25 News Submitters by User by number of articles for the last 2 weeks
Date: 10 Apr 92 11:24:30 GMT
Organization: DSG, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Trinity College, Dublin.

In <1992Apr09.203701.11078@robobar.co.uk>
gtoal@robobar.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:
>:[...]
>:			      47% bit.listserv.words-l
>:			      19% soc.bi
>:			      9% alt.usage.english
>
>Well, if any of my net friends didn't know before, they know now :-)

Graham, I didn't know you were on bit.listserv.words-l. Of course, I
think it's totally disgusting; have you considered therapy? :-)


<>When it comes to exploring the sea of love, I prefer buoys.
<>--- Andrew G. Dehel (drewid@chopin.udel.edu)

Ciaran.
-- 
Ciaran McHale                                                            ----
Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland.      \bi/
Telephone: +353-1-7021539  FAX: +353-1-772204  email: cjmchale@cs.tcd.ie  \/
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: h431@quads.uchicago.edu (heather e blair)
Subject: Re: Books to read; Snap Crackle Pop
Reply-To: h431@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 14:37:38 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.102615.16582@cs.tcd.ie> cjmchale@cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale) writes:

>The concept was probably borrowed from Christianity. The following
>details are from _Eunuchs for the Kingdom of Heaven_, chapter 19.
>
>	Thomas Aquinas (13th century) wrote in _Summa Theologiae_ that:
>	One and the same devil can produce semen by taking the form of
>	a woman and having intercourse with a man and then taking the
>	form of a man and haviong intercourse with a woman. The
>	diabolical children begotten in this fashion (they are usually
>	distinguished by their extraordinary size) are thus actually
>	human children, because they are generated by human semen.
>	Individual details, such as how the semen obtained by the devil
>	from a man is kept fresh and fertile until intercourse with the
>	witch, are something Thomas doesn't go into. Such gaps are
>	filled by _The Hammer of Witches_ (1487). The devil, it seems,
>	have a heating-and-refrigerating apparatus for the transfer of
>	semen.
>
Oh, yeah, I remember reading this in the somewhere in St. Thomas.  The question
was about incubi and succubi, demons that take, respectively, male and
female forms.  (You have to have SOMEBODY on whom to blame those orgasms you
have when you're asleep!)  Thomas asks whether a woman could get pregnant
from an incubus, and answers, yes, because the demon could first steal
semen from a man as a succubus, then visit the woman as an incubus.
Pretty, neat, huh?  Beats vampires, even!  I'll try to track down
the reference if anyone's interested.

Medieval philosophy is phun.  But I don't remember any homo- or bisexual
demons, rats!

>
>Ciaran.
>-- 
>Ciaran McHale                                                            ----
>Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland.      \bi/
>Telephone: +353-1-7021539  FAX: +353-1-772204  email: cjmchale@cs.tcd.ie  \/


-- 

- Heather Blair       h431@midway.uchicago.edu
From: penguin@reed.edu (Steven Millman)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: e-flirts
Date: 9 Apr 92 06:12:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Apr9.061207.11984
Organization: Reed College, Portland OR

Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: e-flirts
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: soc.bi
Organization: Reed College, Portland OR
Keywords: New Terminology

	Here's a new way to say "bisexual."  Let's start using "Gender non-
specific."  It is more indicative of actual love for all persons.  It is also
longer and harder to say and might disencourage labelling.  Like it?

penguin@reed.edu (telnet)

Penguin.

PS:  I am now de-muffined!
From: sean@cs.strath.ac.uk (Sean Ahern)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: good places to not fit in
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:31:59 GMT
Organization: Chainsaw Reprogramming Ltd

In article <20208@castle.ed.ac.uk> sara@castle.ed.ac.uk (S Hopkins) writes:
                                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^
                                               Huh?  No postie?

>Well, have you got eight years worth of hair growth and are you a
>computer hippy??

  3 years, and yes.  More of a computer mutoid biclogothippy from hell,
but no need to get fussy...

>>  Actually if you do come over, let me know...
>
>Now would I do otherwise?  Hey Sean, it's just been all go lately, yken?

  Yeah, I know... trying to get some free time in between al the
nights of drunkenness and debauchery is proving a *real* problem... :)

>Well you can come as well; what are you doing this weekend?

  Humph.  Rough guess;  drink, drugs, sex, alcohol, booze,  the Aliens
thing in Glesga, drink, an rpg, vodka, sex, and possibly a visit to
Embra somone else is organising...

>Now you got they keys what you gonna do with them? >{8-)

  Hold on hold on;  I only just got those keys back *this morning*!
So how the hell did *you* know I'd got them... sheesh. 
  Telsa!  Tell Her to stop playing with my mind, and also to hurry up
with them four cans of beer as well....

>Yeah and Haagen Daaz ain't bad neither ... >{8-)

   Och so!  My fridge is dyslexic, sue me!  :)

>
>Seriously Sean, gimme a shout and we'll arrange some mutual, er,
>visitation ...
>
  Uhuh... Ill see whats going on Monday and see if I can modify to suit....

WR

-- 
*  White Rabbit; sharp teeth and claws, long hair, waistcoat  *
* and pocketwatch.  Sometimes late, and often predatory,      *
* particularily if there's Guinness involved.  If you see     *
* Alice, tell her I was wrong.  Feed your head.  Hail Eris!   *
From: db@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Dave Berry)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Coming out to teachers...
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:42:22 GMT
Reply-To: db@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Dave Berry)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

In article <3070@cs.rit.edu> nmw1638@cs.rit.edu (Nicolas M Williams) writes:
>(I looked for books on bisexuality in the library here but they
>only had two books as opposed to an inumerable numbers of books on
>homosexuality

There's an extensive bibliography in Tom Geller's "Bisexuality: A Reader and
Sourcebook".  Unfortunately it doesn't say anything about each entry, so
I've no idea of which ones are any good.

Dave.
--
 Dave Berry, LFCS, Edinburgh Uni.      db%dcs.ed.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk

Authority is arbitrary.          Nobody is normal.         Assume nothing.
From: tcg8@aber.ac.uk (Telsa Christina Gwynne)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: red hair again?
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:04:06 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

In article <1992Apr12.181821.15118@midway.uchicago.edu> pmm7@midway.uchicago.
edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.153439.22268@midway.uchicago.edu> h431@midway.uchicago.
edu writes:
>>In article <1992Apr9.150758.1294@spdcc.com> pentangl@spdcc.com (Scott Moir)
writes:
>>>In article <1992Apr9.012037.9025@midway.uchicago.edu> pmm7@midway.uchicago.
edu writes:
>>>>the great red-head hunt is on!!!!
>>>>olaf's keeping the list, with names and (hopefully) e-mail 
>>>>addresses!  (if have red hair and wantto be hunted, let him 
>>>>know (-:)  ...
>>
>>And what about 'ginger' hair that used to be red?
>
>*e-flirts*
>of *course* it does, heather!  ;)

In that case, does being born with a mass of red hair and suffering
it all to fall out and then having brown when it regrows count? :-(
My mum's hair is red, and I've always been jealous. Neither of us take
after her.

(Oh, the other of "us" is my sister, who sulked at me on the phone
when I told her I had beaten her to demuffining. She says I have to
say "hi" and <hugs> to you all, until she gets back to a terminal to
post :-))

I think I need consoling for losing the chance to be on the orgy...
sniffle.

		Telsa
From: wells@cs.hw.ac.uk (Francis Wells)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Welcome Wagon/Flirt Machine is now in Prouction!
Keywords: different definition
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:07:08 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <3120@cs.rit.edu> kdc5072@cs.rit.edu (Kevin D Colagio) writes:
>YES!  It is TRUE!
>
>All input is greatly appreciated and will be credited to the doner.  All help,
>in the form of money, goods or services <grin> will also be accepted.  Hints,
>help an other non-material items will be collected.  Massages given daily (by
>yours truly!) to those who show up to help.

I'm afraid I'm on the wrong side of the pond to drop by so casually...

>
>In the mean time...
>
>*hug*
>X kiss X
> SLURP!  U
>         '
>         ^--- a tongue if you couldn't guess 8*)
>
>nibble, nibble
>bi-te
>YUM!

...INPUT:-
A delicate brush of my hand against your cheek as I slowly run my fingers 
through your hair and turn your head so that I can gently blow onto and 
nibble your left ear...my hands massaging the nape of your neck and working 
down the small of your back...you turn to face me and we look longingly into
each others eyes...which close in anticipation of that first moist kiss -

*WHAT* ?? You mean I posted this instead of e-mail ??

A generic HUGGLE then to you all
				Frankums.
______________________________________________________________________________
        This pink triangle was drawn \bi/ Francis Joseph Wells
B4 f t g++ k+(+) s+ p                 \/                    wells@hci.hw.ac.uk
From: sean@cs.strath.ac.uk (Sean Ahern)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: good places to not fit in
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:43:35 GMT
Organization: Chainsaw Reprogramming Ltd

In article <20118@castle.ed.ac.uk> sara@castle.ed.ac.uk (Sara's ElectroPostie) writes:

>** Eight years??!! ** ** Computer hippy? **  *I* sure as hell don't need
>to fly to get to Glasgow, I can get there in under an hour on the train
>(on one of BR's good days with the wind behind it ...)  I'll see you
>there tomorrow!  

  Sulk.

  How come you never offered to rush over here for me?  Okay s'only been
about 3 years in my case, but I could almost be miffed at this.  Specially
since he's only two mins walk from my building...
  Actually if you do come over, let me know...

Or alternatively, you come over to Edinburgh and I'll
>make you a nice cuppa coffee, I just recently got a new filter maker
>and the delicatessen up the road does some nice blends ...
>

  Whimper.

  <mutters about fickleness, the unfairness of life, and when the hell the 
goddess is gonna give him his keys back....>


White Rabbit

ps  To whomsoever it was on here (think may have been Kay) what mentioned
Daagen Haz ice cream, my SO and I owe you a very large thanks... wonderful
stuff....
From: ro@panix.com (r l reid)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: ok....North East Get Together!
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:20:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: panix.1992Apr16.142026.7076
Organization: Playdoh's Republic

In article <1992Apr15.220210.912@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> max@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Max Handelsman: liberal hippie subversive dude.) writes:
>	Comments?  Come on, I've heard from lots of NE'ers through 
>E-mail...let's have an open discussion!

I hate to get serious in this group, but I'm not sure I would feel safe coming 
to any bi-party advertized this widely.  Security IS an issue.

I would like to suggest that anyone who would like to play host (Max,
I love the NYC idea...) announce it here, but let people send
you email to get invited, discuss dates, and get the address.

Let's not, then, have quite an open discussion.  We can discuss
it openly, but lets keep places and dates in email.  Goddess knows
what you'll drag in off the net, and they aren't always friendly.

Sorry to be a downer, but I've seen a few things when security was
not tight enough.


-- 
		r l reid	ro@@panix.com
@WOOF, QUACK AND  MEOW: Composers of Woof present a variety of computer music 
[Apr 26, 8:30 pm, Cunningham Dance Studio 55 Bethune (Westbeth), NYC)]
[Apr 30, 8:30 pm, SIA, (410 W 118 St, top floor, NYC)]