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From: 7100P%NAVPGS.BITNET@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (Jeff Siegel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Otakus, fanboys, and psychos (was Re: KOR Questions.)
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:55:32 GMT
To: "Japanese animedia and other animation news." <ANIME-L@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
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My .02 (adjusted for inflation):  Otaku is a Japanese word with a negative
connotation, and I think that it is a big mistake for the word to be
used in a 'positive' (or at least non-negative) sense.  It could
possibly hurt efforts to spread Japanese animation throughout the States
since Japanese will equate 'otaku' to their definition, not the much more
sedate 'American' definition.  I'm an anime fan, but I don't want to have
the 'otaku' label applied to me because except in parts of American
anime fandom, the label is derogatory and in my case, totally inaccurate -
I enjoy anime, but it's not my life.  I suggest American anime fandom
break itself of a bad habit and stop using 'otaku' in a positive or non-
negative sense.  Most anime fans cringe when someone doesn't translate
the dialog in subbed or dubbed anime correctly, so why should 'otaku'
be an exception?


 -- > Jeff Siegel

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From: pearl@remus.rutgers.edu (Starbuck)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: KOR Questions.
Date: 24 Jul 92 12:42:11 GMT
Organization: the Worlds Welfare Work Association, Rutgers Anime division

In article <gePJimq00WB281sm0J@andrew.cmu.edu> hh0u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Hiroshi Haga) writes:

 >  >In article <sePCpTm00awT0PHlRd@andrew.cmu.edu > hh0u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Hiroshi H\
 > aga) writes:
 >  > >
 >  > >Hiroshi "Death to all Otakus" Haga 
 >           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 > 
 >  >Then you'll be among the first to die. :-)
 > 
 > No, not at all.  After all I have a life.  I don't think anyone can
 > call me Otaku if you know what that mean.


I think what we have here is a culture clash caused by the American
definition of Otaku and the traditional Japanese definition of Otaku.


Steve
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From: HSADEK@VRIT01.EG
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: MULTIMEDIA MAILING SYSTEM
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:51:00 GMT
To: ANIME-L@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
X-Envelope-To: ANIME-L@VTVM1.BITNET
X-Vms-To: FRCU::IN%"ANIME-L@VTVM1"

Dose anyone knows any Multimedia mailing system running under DOS ?
From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Miyazaki "High Tech" scores
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 15:57:23 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia

Has anyone listened to any of them other than the Nausicaa one?

A friend lent me her copy, and, well, to put it bluntly, I nearly
hurled. How could this awful thing be done to these wonderful original
scores? In some cases you can't even figure out where the music in
question comes from.

Are the others (Totoro, Kiki, whatever) just as bad? Sounds almost like
what you could produce with a Commodore 64. A very cheap attempt to
cash in on the popularity of the original. I expected somewhat better
of Animage.

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From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Anime--something--93
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 11:17:30 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <5se7NB8w165w@clubzen.fidonet.org> fafhrd@clubzen.fidonet.org writes:
 > As for what I fan is to do....I suggest that you wait a few months, and 
 > see what happens. There is every possibility that MT and I will come to 
 > an accord; it is my hope, and I am sure that it is Mike's as well. 

Mike and you, I can believe... But do you really think John (and Brin)
are ever likely to accept such an alliance?

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From: bbs.lar@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Larry Greenfield)
Subject: Ningyo-sama
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 06:04:51 GMT

Ok, so "Little Mermaid" in Japan uses the English "Little Mermaid", but I 
thought I'd use "Ningyo-sama" cause it looks nice on a title :)
  Anway, not really "anime", but "The LIttle Mermaid" has been released 
on video in Japan, and I just got my copy.  I bought the LaserDisc here 
at a local shop because it's a great multi-audio copy (analogue is 
Japaese, digital is English, no subtitles).  It's funny listening to it 
in Japanese. I have Robin Hood and Lady & the Tramp in multi-audio LDs, 
but Mermaid, because it's a musica (and relies so much on English 
language puns in the English lyrics) is a different listen. Not a bad 
dub, but Ursula's voice (the Sea Witch) is pretty bad. The other voices 
are good though.  Anyway, if any of you are interested in seeing these 
movies in both Japaese and English, you can get the Japanese laserdiscs 
of Lady & the Tramp, Robin Hood and Little Mermaid (among others) that 
will do both English and Japanese. You can also get Song of the South, 
but that is a bad print because it uses subtitles as well as multi-audio. 
The othr 3 are pure with no subtitles, so if you just pop it in, it's 
just as if it were the American edition. BTW, the Japanese print of 
Mermaid is 1000% cleaner than the American version which was full of 
random noise.
:::::Larry:::::

--
Larry Greenfield (bbs.lar@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
From: tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Gundam 0083 Episode 11
Date: 31 Jul 92 08:06:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <Lo6qoB2w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> vlad@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Vlad G. Pohnert) writes:
>I was really impressed by this episode of the 0083 series. But I did find 
>a few things that seem to have been overdone....
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>Although the episode was excellent, I found the New GP03 Gundam and the 
>MEGA huge oversized armour a bit too musch to take! This is suppose to 
>happen before Z Gundam and here they are introducting Mega powerfull 
>suits!! (Just look at Gato's suit, it looks like it could take on Z 
>Gundam!!!!

Remember that Gato's machine is a Mobile Armor, NOT a mobile suit.
Big Zam from the original Gundam had more fire power and generator
output than Neue Ziel. However, I have to agree that Dendrobium is
little too much. But both Neue Ziel and Dendrobium are prototype
machines NOT suitable for the mass production.

As for Z Gundam vs. Neue Ziel, mobile suits in general are NO match
for Mobile Armors unless you happen to have an ultra-powerful newtypoe
like Amuro Rei as a pilot. :) 

>I did however enjoy the idea of Captain Sinapus comming to Kou's rescure 
>after almost being shot!!

Same here. (^_^) 

>Oh well, it seems the Gundam continuity is now slightly destorted!!

Well, it already happened with Gundam Unit 1 Full Vernian. It has
more generator output and thruster output than Z Gundam.


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From: ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer)
Subject: What does Yotsuya do?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 05:59:38 GMT
Keywords: more wasted bandwith

    For all you Maison Ikkoku fans...
Does anyone know what Yotsuya does for a living?
Is he... A talent scout for streamline pictures?
         A campaign advisor for H Ross Perot?
         The executive who came up with the Dan vs Dave ad campaign?
         The writer for Zillion?
         Organizing Animeconexpo93?

-- 
  RUMORS OF MY DEMISE ARE IN FACT...
ARE NOT EXAGGERATED! I AM IN FACT DEAD.        ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: thao@bnr.ca (Anthony Murtagh)
Subject: Re: The Battle of the Planets
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:47:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.231150.22751@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs) writes:
>
>>Does anyone remember this cartoon?  It used to be my favorite cartoon while it
>>was on.  However I can't remember a thing about it except that some small kid
>>always studdered "princess" at least once during the show.  Does anyone
>>remember the other character or the villians?
>-Brian G.
>
>This was posted in another newsgroup.  I do remember it being a good cartoon
>but I can't fill in the details (American or Japanese).  Can anyone help?
>
>C.GIbbs

the good guys (g-force) were mark, jason, tiny, keyop, princess, dr. anderson, and 
goofy 7-zark-7.  the bad guys were goons of zotar (sp?).  keyop is the studderer;
and from what i've heard, sandy franks (producer etc) made keyop studder because
the original japanese character talked and cussed a lot.  

oh, almost forgot the cheap robot dog--i think it was 1-rover-1.  then there was also
cronos and his troupe (don't remember their names).  cronos was mark's father...and
in the episode where mark finds out cronos' true identity, cronos also sacrifices
himself in order to save the earth...*sniff*...*sniff*...i remember crying my eyes
out.  heck, g-force was a very emotional show for me when i was 8.

laly thao

p.s. as a side note:  kasey kasem provided the voice for mark.  after i found that
     out in my latter "adult" years, i could never listen to the top ten countdown
     with the same thoughts again.
From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: COR?
Keywords: Nanmo
Date: 24 Jul 92 04:54:27 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


Forget "Kimagure".  Someone asked me today what the title "Orange
Road" meant.  Couldn't think of anything.  So, anyone know just where
the "Orange Road" in "Kimagure Orange Road" is?
 
-RJ
 
<I get the feeling this has been asked before.>

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime,soc.culture.japan,rec.arts.manga
From: macross@foretune.co.jp (Michael House)
Subject: Re: Keiji Nakazawa
Organization: Foretune Co., Ltd.  Tokyo, Japan
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 05:24:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.134759.2357@nic.csu.net> shogun@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Mike M. Tatsugawa) writes:
>In article <9207231703.AA08768@tmcpcnet.tmc.edu> Carl_Horn@library.tmc.edu writes:
>>The guest of honor who had to impress me the most at the AnimExpo was
>>Keiji Nakazawa. The first manga I ever bought, back in junior high
>>school, was one of the English editions of Barefoot Gen. This was well
>>before the days, of course, of First's LONE WOLF AND CUB, or even Miyako
>>Matsuda-Graham and Toren Smith's fan translation of Urusei Yatsura, Vol.
>>1--do you remember that one? In those days (And that's the way it was
>>and we liked it!) an article in Epic Illustrated on Go Nagai was the
>>American manga fan's media event of the year.
>
>Keiji Nakazawa was the GoH who impressed me the most and got the least
>attention.  The generation gap between him and the fans was obvious.
>I spoke to one mother who told me that she grew up with Nakazawa's
>message and that he spoke for her generation.  She DRAGGED her son
>over to Expo and his autograph table so that he could meet Nakazawa.

I consider myself lucky that I was able to meet and talk with Nakazawa
in person.  After having read all the translated Gen, I bought all of the
original (ten volumes to date) and read them in less than two months.
I could not put the story down.  Just thinking of that story moves me, as
few things in my life ever have.  Nobody should have to live through what
he and the other people in his story lived through, but I envy his ability
to convey those experiences so powerfully--scenes of otherwise good
people driven to inhuman acts by an inhuman situation left their mark.

By the way, I asked Nakazawa if he intends to continue the series
(the first ten volumes constitute only Part 1 of the story), and he said
that he is currently looking for a magazine in which to serialize it.
I hope he finds one soon, so that we can start reading Hadashi no Gen,
Part 2.


							--Michael House,
							Director/Supervisor,
							AnimEigo, Inc.
							macross@foretune.co.jp
From: halford@twics.co.jp (HALFORD@TWICS.CO.JP)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Anyone keeping a list of anime titles?'
Date: 20 Jul 92 08:24:01 GMT
Organization: TWICS, Tokyo, Japan

Steve writes
 
>In article <35721@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim) writes:
 
>> In article <Jul.15.19.40.32.1992.6292@remus.rutgers.edu>
pearl@remus.rutgers.e
du (Starbuck) writes:
 
>> ARGH!! I really hate this answer. You mean that the only way to get
>> this book is to bug friends in Japan?
 
>I'm sure that some store somewhere must carry it but the way I (or my
>friend) got it was from someone in Japan.
 
>Hey Bret! You may wish to "advertise" this book as well!
 
I will, as soon as I can find it.  Anyone have an ISBN number for it?
 
 
-bret
 
,s
From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Eclipse/SP breakup?
Distribution: world
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 10:22:45 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <N158NB6w164w@musubi.pubnet.com> whong@musubi.pubnet.com writes:
 > > Anyone know what's happened to the unofficial Eclipse/Studio Proteus
 > > alliance, since it seems Dark Horse is getting just about everything
 > > Eclipse used to handle (DP, Appleseed, etc.)??
 > 
 > When did Dark Horse get Appleseed? As far as I know Eclipse still has this 
 > one.

See Previews magazine for September (I think that's the one). Appleseed
IV has been given to DH. Yay! :) (Sorry, Outlanders was one of the few
manga translations I read, thus my bias towards DH's good reputation.
:)

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From: TILTONJ%UOFPORT.BITNET@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (JAMES TILTON)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: AnimeExpoII & AnimeConII....answers, please.
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:26:00 GMT
To: ANIME-L@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
Original_To:  BITNET%"ANIME-L@VTVM1.BITNET"

Someone mentioned a certain type of soup eaten by AnimeExpo staff while talking
about food options.  I simply mentioned an alternative.

TILTONJ@UOFPORT.BITNET
James Tilton
University of Portland
From: hh0u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Hiroshi Haga)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: OVA REVIEW: The Wind of Amnesia
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:57:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

To those who are new to this channel....

Here's what I translated so far.

AD Police 1-3
Angel Cop 1-3
BAOH
The name of wind is Amnesia
Burn Up
Efera & Jiliora: Emblem of Gude
Twilight Q eps. 1
Orguss eps. 1
The Enemy are Pirates
Windaria
City Hunter the movie 1


Hiroshi Haga 
$@K'2l(J $@Bg;V(J(hh0u+@andrew.cmu.edu)

"It's not true unless it makes you laugh, but you don't understand until it
 makes you weep" - a quote from Illuminatus!
From: tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Otakus, fanboys, and psychos (was Re: KOR Questions.)
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:16:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Jul24.204911.1084@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty 1/2) writes:
>
>However, there is another, darker connotation to "otaku" in Japan.
>Because of the Miyazaki murders (no relation to Hayao Miyazaki, see
>ANIMAG V2.1), "otaku" has acquired a connotation among some people
>not unlike "psychopath".  I think that's the reason Hiroshi doesn't
>want to be called an "otaku".  I, for one, plan to respect that.

Before the Miyazaki Tsutomu Murders, "otaku" was a jargon used by
sci-fi/anime fans to label "losers" among themselves. But with
Miyazaki incident, the word "otaku" became well-known to general
public, thanks to hypes created by mass media. As the result,
"otaku" became an everyday word among Japanese to label those with
"weird" hobbies (like anime :-) although many of those people who're 
labeled as otakus are by no means "losers" or "psychopaths". Ironically 
such abuse of the word diluted the negative connotation carried by "otaku",
turning it into a generic term used for people with extreme passion for
their hobbies.

"Otaku" still has NEGATIVE connotation but its intensity is much less now 
than 80's or right after Miyazaki incident. Although I can
understand why Hiroshi hates the word "otaku", I have no intention
to deny that I'm an otaku (although I won't introduce myself as an otaku
:-) to people who know my hobby since they'll label me as an otaku
whether I like or not. Heck, when I told a Japanese that I like
anime & manga, she almost said "Ota-. :-)

 
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From: tdinh@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Thien Dinh)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Dangaio
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:13:00 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Jul28.134307.6280@hellgate.utah.edu> hnguyen%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Hung Nguyen) writes:
>I just finished Dangaio Part 2 and 3 and was wondering if they have decided to 
>continue the series or leave it as is?  Does anyone know if there will be more
>it ends as it ended.  Any infomation is appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
>
> - Hung -

This same question was posted some time ago and the answer is that
there are, and always shall be, ONLY three parts to Dangaio(Or at
least until some Japanese company decides to make a "sequel"). I
have yet to wait for parts 2 and 3 to be released by US Renditions,
if they haven't already.

					Thien
From: shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Deunan question
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:15:59 GMT
Organization: Boston University Chemistry Department

In article <1992Jul28.090432.16070@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> dscott@sactoh0.sac.ca.us
(Danielle M. Scott) writes: 

>I would think Michelle Pifer (sp) or could I say Jodie Foster would play
>a great Deunan?! 

NO!!! Not Michelle Pfeifer!!!

This is all idle speculation, of course (since a live-action Appleseed will
require two times the budget of Terminator 2), but I think that the best way
would be to find a young and unknown actress (like Carrie Fisher in Star
Wars). 

>Hmmmmmmm as for Bri, well that is hard, since when he was human he was 
>from an Afican-American background

North African, not American (was it Algiers?) He could be of Arabic descent
for all we know.

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From: ghartzog@terapin.com (Garrett Hartzog)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Akira
Date: 24 Jul 92 02:11:58 GMT
Organization: BBS

The end stuff WASN'T future episodes, there will be none, what it was was some
of the original test animation and test dialogue. I kinda thought it was funny
though that the people talked like they were made of hormones in the extra
footage...

Garrett Hartzog
ghartzog@terapin.com
From: Carl_Horn@library.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: V.MAX--an e-mail address?
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:03:00 GMT
To: anime-l@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU

Does anyone know if V.MAX has an e-mail address, and, if so, what it is?
Thanks!


--Carl Horn

"'Cause some don't agree with how I do this
 I get straight and meditate like a Buddhist."

           --N.W.A., "Express Yourself"
From: tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Otakus, fanboys, and psychos (was Re: KOR Questions.)
Date: 26 Jul 92 21:16:55 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <36170@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> djohnson@ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson) writes:
>
>PS: What's an "idol singer"?

Teenage singer/actor with cute looks, little or no talents and an
average life span of 6-12 months. :-) There are exceptions, of
course (like Sakai Noriko, Matsuda Seiko). During their life span,
they have fanatic followers who regard them as their "idols", buying
EVERYTHING related with their idols. Many fans of Idols are otakus,
although you're not automatically labeled as "otaku" for liking idol
singers.


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