HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: palmerp@math.orst.edu (Paul A Palmer)
Subject: Saving articles rn-style?
Reply-To: palmerp@math.orst.edu
Organization: Dept. of Math, Oregon State University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 06:55:32 GMT


I'm the gnus apostle here, and I could have another convert if I could find a
way to get gnus to save articles in exactly the format rn does:
	~/News/gnu/emacs/gnus/1234
where the last number is the article number.

I looked at Sebastian Kremer's gnus-auto.el, and it comes close, but there are
two problems which I just don't have the time/energy to tackle today:

1. It generates the directory as ~/Newsgnu/emacs/gnus (in my example).
   Note that there is a / missing between News and gnu.

2. It uses the subject field to generate the file name.

So, before I spend several hours trying to understand the code well enough to
fix these two problems, I'd like to ask if anyone has gotten gnus to do
rn-style article saving, either with the gnus-auto package, or by some other
means.

This can't be the first time someone has asked for this functionality, can it?

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

--
Paul Palmer
Department of Mathematics     	E-mail: palmerp@math.orst.edu
Kidder Hall 368
Oregon State University, Corvallis, Oregon 97331-4605

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From: gamin@ireq-robot.hydro.qc.ca (Martin Boyer)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
Subject: Re: New Feature Idea: Grouping messages
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:06:15 GMT
Organization: Le laboratoire de robotique de l'Institut de recherche
	d'Hydro-Quebec
In-reply-to: ratinox@meceng.coe.northeastern.edu's message of 15 Apr 92 21:22:04 GMT

ratinox@meceng.coe.northeastern.edu (Richard Pieri/Stainless Steel Rat) writes:

   GNUS ``groups'' messages in a thread together. But when someone trims away
   the references field, it mucks things up. What I'm asking for is a switch
   that toggles grouping identical subjects together.

Already exists, if I understand well your query.  This is what I use,
which I believe I got straight from the documentation.

(setq gnus-Select-group-hook
 (function
  (lambda ()
    ;; Sort first by date
    (gnus-sort-headers
     (function (lambda (a b)
		 (gnus-date-lessp (gnus-header-date a)
				  (gnus-header-date b)))))
    ;; Then sort by subject ignoring 'Re:'
    (gnus-sort-headers
     (function (lambda (a b)
		 (gnus-string-lessp
		  (gnus-simplify-subject (gnus-header-subject a) 're-only)
		  (gnus-simplify-subject (gnus-header-subject b) 're-only))))))
  )
 )

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From: isac@rieska.oulu.fi (Juha Iisakka)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
Subject: Re: Getting rid of hbm
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:23:46 GMT
Organization: Oulun yliopisto
In-reply-to: isac@rieska.oulu.fi's message of 9 Apr 92 12:45:52

In article <ISAC.92Apr9124552@rieska.oulu.fi> isac@rieska.oulu.fi (Juha Iisakka) writes:

> I have certain person in my kill-files.
> Still I am tired because when I read
> s.c.europe I have "X" in most of news
> headings.
> Could it be possible that I do not see at all
> his postings - not even headings?

Thank you all who answered my letter.
My English isn't very good so 
my hope wasn't clear enough.
I want to get rid of HIM only.
I like to see headings of other's kill-news
because you cannot never be sure.

--
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From: wmperry@cherry.ucs.indiana.edu (William M. Perry)
Subject: gnus-Post-article-hook?
Organization: Computer Science Student, Indiana University
Distribution: gnu
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:16:23

Hello,
   Is there some sort of hook I  can set that will be run each time  I
post  an article?  I have looked  through all  the variables  for gnus
(describe-variable gnus-) and found nothing in the completions dealing
with this.  What I would like would be something ala:
   (setq gnus-Post-article-hook '(lambda ()
				   (spell-buffer)
				   (justify-buffer))) ;<- my own func

   Any help would be much appreciated.
	-Bill P.

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From: neitzel@ips.cs.tu-bs.de (Martin Neitzel)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
Subject: Re: Supercite and wierd quotes
Date: 13 Apr 92 11:53:22 GMT
Organization: Inst. f. Informatik, TU Braunschweig, FRG

What about a simple replace-regexp?  Caveat creeping featurism.

(I wonder when Barry Warsaw gets fed up with adding any new ones.
Heck, why am I not missing anything?  We're still using an absolutely
outdated superyank version for name extraction and gin-mode does all
the filling.  Small & Beautiful.)

						Martin Neitzel
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Getting rid of hbm
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:48:57 GMT

 Juha> == Juha Iisakka <isac@rieska.oulu.fi> 

 Juha> I have certain person in my kill-files.  Still I am tired because
 Juha> when I read s.c.europe I have "X" in most of news headings.
 Juha> Could it be possible that I do not see at all his postings - not
 Juha> even headings?

 Juha> Thank you all who answered my letter.  My English isn't very good
 Juha> so my hope wasn't clear enough.  I want to get rid of HIM only.
 Juha> I like to see headings of other's kill-news because you cannot
 Juha> never be sure.

Just move the gnus-expunge to just after that killfile line.

(gnus-kill "really kill this person's articles")
(gnus-expunge "X")
(gnus-kill "a subject I want to kill")
(gnus-kill "an author who might say something useful")

--Chris
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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Sorting your Group list
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1992 06:16:46 GMT

 > [how do I sort .newsrc?]

There's a perl script to do this available on ftp.eff.org as
/users/ckd/fixnewsrc.1.4.shar; it's also been posted to alt.sources more
than once.

It does more than just sort alphabetically, though it'll do that too.

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System Manager & Postmaster     |  "There's always something going out of
Electronic Frontier Foundation  |      business in Central Square."
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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
From: adama@bmdhh68.bnr.ca (Adam Ashby)
Subject: Re: xrn works but gnus doesn't?
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd., Maidenhead, England
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:24:12 GMT

In article <791@hsdndev.UUCP> rossini@biosun2.harvard.edu (Anthony Rossini) writes:

   however, I can't get GNUS to recognize the NNTP server, it says it doesn't exist.
   However, xrn and rn will both recognize the server, and work (that's how I'm
   reading news now).  I'd rather be using GNUS... :-(.  Does anyone have any clues

i had this very same problem recently, xrn and rn worked fine (or, at
least, as fine as they  ever can do!) but I couldn't use GNUS.  I got
around it by posting a test message using xrn to a .test group and
taking the name of my server from what appeared on the resulting
message.  I put that as a variable NNTPSERVER in my .login, (could be
set as gnus-nntp-server in .emacs) and everyhting worked jus' fine
again.  Of course, you may already have done this and I could be way
off track!!

Adam. (yo Bob F.)

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From: cimshop!davidm@uunet.UU.NET (David S. Masterson)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
Subject: Supercite and wierd quotes
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:04:58 GMT
Organization: Consilium Inc., Mountain View, California
X-Posting-Software: GNUS 3.13  [ NNTP-based News Reader for GNU Emacs ]

Is it possible to teach the Supercite function sc-fill-paragraph-manually to
handle paragraphs that start quoted differently from its standard (ie. '|>' or
'>|' as opposed to '>>' or 'name>').  It would be especially nice if it could
take something like:

	> | this is a quote.
	> | this is the same quote.

and turn it into something like:

	>> this is a quote.  this is the same quote.

Any hints?
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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
From: cnall00@mik.UKy.EDU
Subject: Error parsing file errors.
Organization: GNUs Not Usenet
Distribution: gnu
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 21:46:22 GMT


I am getting errors in alot of programs (lisp) that I am running in
Emacs.  

Error parsing input or something close to that.  It happens
when I try to reply to an article in GNUS and try to red 
my mail through RMAIL.

Any help here?
Chris
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
From: grama@prism.eng.hou.compaq.com (Sorin Grama)
Subject: Forward instead of followup?
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp. - Houston, TX
Distribution: gnu
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:31:20 GMT


Why is my gnus acting weird and does a Forward instead of a
Follow-up when I press F in the Subject buffer?
What's wrong?
I believe I'm running version 3.31.

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From: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
Subject: Re: Supercite and wierd quotes
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:38:19 GMT
Reply-To: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Organization: Century Computing, Inc.


>>>>> "David" == David S. Masterson <cimshop!davidm@uunet.UU.NET> writes:

    David> Is it possible to teach the Supercite function
    David> sc-fill-paragraph-manually to handle paragraphs that start
    David> quoted differently from its standard (ie. '|>' or '>|' as
    David> opposed to '>>' or 'name>').  It would be especially nice
    David> if it could take something like:

sc3.0 will be able to do things like this.  The concepts are in my
really-really-alpha-version to do this but its not too easy to set up.
Don't ask me when sc3.0 will be available.  Its been on hold for a few
months, but I'm hoping to get some time soon to work on it again...

If you really want to see advanced releases (and like debugging
elisp), get on the supercite list and wait for announcements...

-Barry
From: hollen@megatek.uucp (Dion Hollenbeck)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
Subject: Where is latest gnus?
Date: 11 Apr 92 15:17:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

Could someone please point me to a mailserver for an ftp site which
has the latest version of gnus, 3.14.1 isn't it?  I do not have ftp
access, so just the ftp site is of no use.  If no one knows of a
mailserver, could someone please mail me gnus?  If you will do this,
please establish contact with a small Email message first.  I don't
want to clog the net with bouncing large packets, nor do I want 50
people to mail me the same thing.

thanks in advance

Dion Hollenbeck       UUCP: {uunet, ucsd, sun}!megatek!hollen
Megatek Corporation  9645 Scranton Rd.  San Diego, Ca.  92121
(619)455-5590x2814   

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Megatek Corporation  9645 Scranton Rd.  San Diego, Ca.  92121
(619)455-5590x2814   
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
From: flee@cs.psu.edu (Felix Lee)
Subject: Re: Thought on a new feature: Article count threshold
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:44:43 GMT

>One thing that tends to bother me is the time it takes to enter a newsgroup
>that has only a couple of unread articles in it.  All of the NNTP access is
>usually not worth the retrieval of one or two article headers.

It's not that much NNTP traffic, and the NNTP side can be sped up.
The real problem is the fixed processing overhead that GNUS has for
starting up a newsgroup.  This can also be sped up.

But the realer problem is that showing just one article in a newsgroup
is poor use of the human/computer interface bandwidth.  You should
always be able to see a screenful of articles at a time, which
suggests that GNUS should be able to present you with the contents of
more than one newsgroup at a time.

And it would be best if the whole screenful of information always had
potentially useful information.  This principle takes you a number of
different directions...
--
Felix Lee	flee@cs.psu.edu
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
From: mikef@sarah.lerc.nasa.gov (Mike J. Fuller)
Subject: Re: stopping NNTP:... messages?
Reply-To: mikef@sarah.lerc.nasa.gov
Organization: Computational Materials Laboratory, NASA Lewis Research Center
X-Newsreader: GNU Emacs 18.57.9, GNUS 3.14.1, NNTP 3.10
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:12:55 GMT

>>>>> On 5 Apr 92 14:58:57 GMT, libove@libove.det.dec.com (Jay
>>>>> Vassos-Libove) said:

Jay> Whenever I select a large article, or a newsgroup with
Jay> many articles, GNUS prints out a long stream of "NNTP: Reading'
Jay> messages. What do I have to do to make it print only one, or
Jay> simply stop it from printing them at all?
Jay> Thanks

Put (setq nntp-debug-read nil) in your .emacs file.

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From: ashwin@cc.gatech.edu (Ashwin Ram)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
Subject: Re: Supercite and wierd quotes
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:23:45 GMT
Reply-To: ashwin@cc.gatech.edu (Ashwin Ram)
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology, College of Computing

In article <PALMERP.92Apr6192643@ilanga.math.orst.edu> palmerp@math.orst.edu (Paul A Palmer) writes:
>   It would be even nicer if there were some fill paragraph function that could
>   take:
>   
>   	   > | this is a quote.
>   	   > | this is the same quote.
>   
>   and turn it into:
>   
>   	   > | this is a quote.  this is the same quote.

Here's such a function that I got from comp.emacs a while ago.  I modified it
slightly (I forget what the original name of the function was.)  I have:

  (fset 'fill-paragraph 'fill-paragraph-with-prefix)

in my .emacs file because I always want this behavior.  It should be fairly
easy to hook this into gnus.


;; Courtesy Bruce Israel <israel@brillig.umd.edu>
(defun fill-paragraph-with-prefix (arg)
  "Fill paragraph at or after point, automatically discovering fill-prefix.
Prefix arg means justify as well."
  (interactive "P")
  (save-excursion
    (forward-paragraph)
    (or (bolp) (newline 1))
    (let ((end (point)) st ofill (lcount 0))
      (backward-paragraph)
      (if (looking-at "\n") (forward-char 1))
      (setq st (point) ofill fill-prefix)
      (if fill-prefix nil
        (untabify st end) ;(call-process-region st end "/usr/ucb/expand" t t nil)
;       (backward-paragraph)
;	(forward-word 1)
;	(beginning-of-line 1)
        (setq st (point))
        (forward-paragraph)
        (setq end (point))
        (goto-char st)
        (while (not (looking-at "[a-zA-Z0-9]")) (forward-char 1)) ;; no alphanumeric fill-prefixes
;       (end-of-line) ;; allow alphanumeric fill-prefixes
        (setq fill-prefix (buffer-substring st (point)))
        (next-line 1)
        (beginning-of-line 1)
        (while (and (< (point) end) fill-prefix (not (string-equal fill-prefix "")))
          (while (not (looking-at (regexp-quote fill-prefix)))
            (setq fill-prefix (substring fill-prefix 0 -1)))
          (setq lcount (1+ lcount))
          (next-line 1)
          (beginning-of-line 1))
        (if (eq lcount 0) (setq fill-prefix ofill)))
      (fill-region-as-paragraph st end arg)
      (setq fill-prefix ofill))))
From: ethanb@ptolemy.astro.washington.edu (Ethan Bradford)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
Subject: Re: xrn works but gnus doesn't?
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:01:40 GMT
Organization: U. of Washington
To: rossini@biosun2.harvard.edu (Anthony Rossini)

In article <791@hsdndev.UUCP> rossini@biosun2.harvard.edu (Anthony Rossini) writes:
   I got GNUS 3.14.1 up and running recently, no problem.  Then they
   upgraded the server here, and consequently messed up
   net-connections.  Now things are fixed, however, I can't get GNUS
   to recognize the NNTP server, it says it doesn't exist.  However,
   xrn and rn will both recognize the server, and work (that's how
   I'm reading news now).  I'd rather be using GNUS... :-(.  Does
   anyone have any clues as to possible suggestions?  This is on a
   sun network (sparc-2's, IPC's, and the server was changed to a
   4/690), and the net problems basically were related to the host
   tables/domain(name?) server being screwed up.  Might it be that
   they are still screwed up?

   Anyone else have this problem?

I had a very similar problem, which I was able to fix with some
patient help from the network.

My problem was that the other programs I tried (including my four-line
test program) were able to find the remote server because they used
the machine-lookup commands from the shared libraries; emacs is (of
necessity) bound staticly, so that it uses the static libraries.

The fix was to rebind emacs, adding "-lresolv" to the bind command
line (after the emacs object files).  This causes EMACS to be
(statically) bound to the library /usr/lib/libresolv.a, which does
host name resolution properly.
--

-- Ethan (ethanb@u.washington.edu)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
From: browning@willard.nas.nasa.gov (David S. Browning)
Subject: gnus 3.14?
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: 10 Apr 92 11:31:20
Distribution: gnu

I've seen references to GNUS 3.14.  I'm using 3.13.  Is 3.14 generally
available?  If so, where can I get it?  What kind of improvements are
there over 3.13?

-- David

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From: hollen@megatek.uucp (Dion Hollenbeck)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
Subject: whereis latest gnus
Date: 11 Apr 92 15:56:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

Where can I get the latest copy of gnus (3.14.1 is it not?).  I would
prefer a mail server to an ftp site since I do not have an ftp
connection.

thanks in advance.

-- 
Dion Hollenbeck       UUCP: {uunet, ucsd, sun}!megatek!hollen
Megatek Corporation  9645 Scranton Rd.  San Diego, Ca.  92121
(619)455-5590x2814   
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: GNUS <-> RN
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1992 06:14:20 GMT

 David> == David S. Masterson <cimshop!davidm@uunet.UU.NET> 

 David> Does anyone have a utility for converting the .newsrc file from
 David> GNUS format to RN format and back again?

It's right here next to my left-handed wrench and my snipe trap.

You don't need one, in other words; they're the same format.  .newsrc.el
is just the 'fast-load' version, but GNUS knows to read .newsrc if it's
been updated more recently.
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System Manager & Postmaster     |  "There's always something going out of
Electronic Frontier Foundation  |      business in Central Square."
+1 617 864 0665  NIC: [CKD1]    |   -Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@eff.org>
From: palmerp@math.orst.edu (Paul A Palmer)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
Subject: Re: Supercite and wierd quotes
Date: 7 Apr 92 03:26:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: ilanga.PALMERP.92Apr6192643
Reply-To: palmerp@math.orst.edu
Organization: Dept. of Math, Oregon State University

In article <CIMSHOP!DAVIDM.92Apr6160458@uunet.UU.NET> cimshop!davidm@uunet.UU.NET (David S. Masterson) writes:

   Is it possible to teach the Supercite function sc-fill-paragraph-manually
   to handle paragraphs that start quoted differently from its standard (ie.
   '|>' or '>|' as opposed to '>>' or 'name>').  It would be especially nice
   if it could take something like:

	   > | this is a quote.
	   > | this is the same quote.

   and turn it into something like:

	   >> this is a quote.  this is the same quote.

It would be even nicer if there were some fill paragraph function that could
take:

	   > | this is a quote.
	   > | this is the same quote.

and turn it into:

	   > | this is a quote.  this is the same quote.

I've looked at a few fill functions and played with some regexps, but have
never gotten it to work. The problem, of course, is the space in the
fill-prefix. Has anyone else done this?


--
Paul Palmer
Department of Mathematics     	E-mail: palmerp@math.orst.edu
Kidder Hall 368
Oregon State University, Corvallis, Oregon 97331-4605

	 "It's moving so fast, it's standing still." - William Gibson