HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: nkill
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:29:36 GMT

In article <MARTINC.92Nov11205329@hatteras.cs.unc.edu>
martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

>  So your question seems to reduce to "do
>we owe a discriminated-against minority any special consideration?"

So: A discriminated against B.  Should C be required to discriminate
against D, in favor of B?

>If you answer "no", of course, you're claiming that you don't believe in
>affirmative action at all.

I don't like the form of AA that requires discrimination.  I'm in
favor of the initial meaning (e.g. advertise your opening in Veterans'
Weekly and Minorities Monthly as well as the Wall St. Journal, then
hire the best applicant.)

>But maybe it's a question of the volitional nature: so the real question
>is "do we owe a discriminated-against minority any special consideration

Those people who do the discriminating, maybe (depends on the facts).
The rest of us, no.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:00:56 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Do you remember 1970 to 1980?
 <1992Nov16.212113.27658@e2big.mko.dec.com>
 <MARTINC.92Nov18222158@hatteras.cs.unc.edu>
 <1992Nov19.221635.7853@cbnews.cb.att.com>

In article <1992Nov19.221635.7853@cbnews.cb.att.com>, eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com
(eleanor.j.evans) says:
>
>In article <MARTINC.92Nov18222158@hatteras.cs.unc.edu>
>martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>>
>>How are we supposed to take you seriously when you were born after the
>>Beatles broke up?
>
>Huh?  *Oh*  You mean that group Paul McCartney was in before "Wings"?
>
>Piglet <ducks fast...>

Wings?  There was a group before Genesis?  <blink> <blink>

Graydon
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: What is "NOT" attractive to women?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 00:53:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.233309.29815@cbfsb.cb.att.com> sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein) writes:
>
>But I'm sure there are a few common denominators as far as what women
>DON'T find attractive:
>
>4)  Nails not longer than hers (fingers and toes)

Gosh, I don't know about that one--most women I've dated have had shorter
fingernails than I have and they've actually rather enjoyed just how
useful those nails can be.  (Makes the variety of sensations one can
create with fingertips greater.) 

>7)  Breasts larger than hers

Gee, I don't know about this one either--sure, on men they're usually
called "pecs," but I've known a few women who rather liked them.  (Plus
you can teach them to do such entertaining tricks.) 

>12)  Uncontrollable urge to touch her (everything in moderation)

Especially moderation.  (I've known plenty of people who actually seemed
to enjoy it when their romantic partners were overcome by such urges.)

Trygve   (What if they gave an orgy and nobody came?) 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: shankha@clsi.COM (Shankha Mitra)
Subject: Re: Are you a Young Transplant?
Originator: shankha@clsi
Organization: CAD Language Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 19:47:26 GMT


schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:

>how many of you
>reading this are recent college grads that have accepted that High
>Paying Job that you went to school for in the first place that is
>located somewhere other than where you were either (a)raised,
>(b)schooled, or (c)would like to be?  Have you become involved with
>someone that you met since you moved to said location?  

Actually, I never took that high paying job.  Instead I took a job that paid less
but seemed more fun.  As to growing up, first 15 yrs in India, next 3 in a small
town, undergrad and grad in another small town.  Now living in the Mother of All
Hellacious Suburbs, Columbia MD.  And soon to move to a real city, Baltimore.
Gawd, can't wait.  And I like my job and this part of the country.

>How did you
>meet, seeing as how you were in a new area where you had no friends?

In a museum.  My eyes met hers, ..., and the rest is history.   Well, not quite.
The museum part is true though.  I was there with a friend from work to see a
movie, met a friend of his who had a friend with her.  (My workplace friend's
friend's friend is the one I'm interested in.)  All of us went to dinner after
that; I took another month to get the guts up to ask her out, and then it's
history.

Shankha
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From: taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: net.hugs?
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:07:57 GMT

In <lgnjsuINNlev@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>Actually, I think I've hugged about half of the net-oids that I've met
>at first meeting.

Just imagine...

"Yes officer, I'm from Finland.  I want to visit U.S. because... Well,
there's this woman... No, actually I have never met her, I don't even
know where she lives... but I was hoping... perhaps she would hug
me... See, there's this boink happening and I hope that she will be
there..."

Oh well...

Juha Taina  taina@cs.helsinki.fi  Phone: +358-0-708-4247
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kevin@clsi.COM (Kevin Cameron)
Subject: Re: Description of the Fetal Remains from an Abortion
Originator: kevin@dubhe
Reply-To: kevin@clsi.com
Organization: would be nice
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 17:12:51 GMT


In article <1992Nov18.173151.4801@ncsu.edu>, dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu ( ) writes:
..........
>    Most of Preterm's abortion staff didn't volunteer to work ``seconds''.
..........

But I'm sure they would have made an exception if the fetus was you.

Kev.
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From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas)
Subject: Re: finding a soulmate
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 01:02:27 GMT

In article 15610@auspex-gw.auspex.com, johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <1992Nov20.160128.13449@panix.com> nancyw@panix.com (Nancy Weiner) writes:
>>I am new here..second day or so ..so please forgive the format. Not sure I'm
>>doing this right. 
>
>
>DING DING DING DING DING
>
>
>Congratulations Nancy, you are the 1,000,000 poster to soc.singles.  We've
>been waiting for this day and have many prizes for being lucky one.  Bob, I
>mean, Robert, tell her what she's won.
>
>   We'll John,  our first our luck winner will received three free months of
>   connect time to portal.com where she can post to her hearts content.
>
>   Next,  Nancy, you have won the "Ronco 2000 Clue detector".  No, not the
>   obsolete Ronco 1000 which was recalled by the FBI, KGB, DEA, and IMHO but
>   the lastest and greatest version. What do you think about that?
>    
>
>        "...Well"
>
>   Don't answer yet.  The final prize is ...<drumroll> ... a dream date with 
>   none other than the Burger King guy.  Your chauffer, Larry Billings, will 
>   gently wake you at 3:00am with his car alarm and then wisk you to the
>   campus of PSUVM where you and your date get a guided tour of the computer 
>   center.  After that a romantic meal will be served at the campus 
>   Burger King where you will have your choice of meals *and* table service.
>
>
>Thank's Bob, I mean, Robert.  Now Nancy, if you will just give us your full
>name and address we'll beginning sending you your prizes.
>
>         "Nancy Weiner, 12.."
>
>[voice from off stage]
>
>
>"What?, uh huh, I see"  
>
>Ahem,  Nancy, I am sorry to inform you but you have been disqualifed from our
>contest.  You see, previous weiners are not eligible...


Brilliant one, John (or should I say "shitter?") The lady asked an honest
question in her first post ever. You gave her the old (Click!)...(Whoosh!)
and dragged her name through your private quagmire in order to let your
creative juices flood the room. <|;Q
                                    \
                    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Now, I agree that your post is a masterpiece, but could you possibly give
the new folks joining us at least a month to adapt to our respective senses
of humor? 

Next thing you know, Trygve's going to chain her up in his dungeon, James
will bother her about her seesters and Stef will adopt the persona of Miss
Manners with an Uzi. Not only that: Miss drieux will tell you that your 
Kondukt is on the IkkyYukky side.

Sheesh, TheNerve!!!!

dreasmeister 
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From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Description of the Fetal Remains from an Abortion
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:21:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.173151.4801@ncsu.edu> dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu ( ) writes:
>  "It was easy to shrug off an aborted pregnancy as nothing more than
>   a sack of blood and globs of tissue--as many pro-choice activists
>   did--if one never saw fetal remains, or products of conception (POC),
>   as they were known in medical circles.  But the nurses, medical
>   assistants, and doctors who worked inside procedure rooms knew
>   that while an eight-week POC was indeed a sack of blood and
>   globs of tissue, an eleven-week POC harbored tiny arms and legs
>   and feet with toes.  At twelve weeks, those tiny hands had tiny
>   nails.  Although the fetal head was too small at that stage to
>   withstand the evacuation machine's suction, pieces of face--a nose
>   and a mouth, or a black eye (all fetal eyes are black in the
>   first trimester) the size of a pea--were sometimes found in
>   the aftermath.
>
>   Later abortions spawned even more gruesome fetal remains.  Between
>   the twelfth and the sixteenth week, early in the second trimester,
>   the fetus almost doubled in length as its body caught up to its
>   large head, and it filled out to the point where it looked like
>   a human baby for the first time.  Since the fetal skull was 
>   still soft, the head did not come out whole during the evacuation,
>   but the legs and arms and rib cage made it through intact.  The
>   hand of a second trimester fetus, as a Preterm doctor described
>   it, seemed big enough to shake.
>
>   Most of Preterm's abortion staff didn't volunteer to work ``seconds''.
>   Late first trimester POCs were hard enough.  The counselor/medical
>   assistants (CMAs) met regularly to discuss their feelings about
>   their work, and often the discussion focused on the POC.  Inside
>   a procedure room, facing the contents of the uterus, there was
>   no denying what abortion was." 
>
>   Sue Hertz, _Caught in the Crossfire: A Year on Abortion's Front Line_,
>   Prentice Hall Press, 1991, pg. 104.
>

You know dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu that was beautiful also. I think it would be
a little more appropriate and make more of an impact on
alt.romance.chat. Hey, it's a suggestion.
 
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From: loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance
Subject: Re: Being Alone?
Date: 17 Nov 1992 09:59:10 -0500
Organization: staff hacker @ Yale Haskell project
	<1992Nov15.142817.13083@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <oneil.721868088@cwis>
	<1992Nov16.175733.10324@nuchat.sccsi.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: functor.systemsz.cs.yale.edu
In-reply-to: kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com's message of Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:57:33 GMT

Hmmm.  I'm another woman who finds it easier to initiate a romantic
relationship with a friend than with a total stranger.  To tell the
truth, I find it *really* uncomfortable when a guy I hardly know
starts coming on to me in a blatantly sexual manner, or starts talking
about marriage on our second date, or whatever.  I don't like to be
rushed or pushed into things!  Also, in that kind of situation I tend
to be suspicious that the guy is more interested in finding a
convenient warm body or wife-and-mother than in me personally....

-Sandra the cynic
From: 01ksdavis@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Rebel without a clue.)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:42:16 GMT
Organization: The Corporation.

In article <98436@netnews.upenn.edu>, crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:
> 
> For what it's worth, I've seen adorable men in ties and suits, and
> adorable men in sweatshirts and jeans.  I haven't seen an adorable man in
> a Cure T-shirt yet, though.
> 
> 
> -- 
> The trick of reason is to get the imagination to seize the actual world --
> if only from time to time.     -- Annie Dillard, "An American Childhood"
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lauren Crawford  //  crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu
	I guess there is something to this.  Recently, at a play I took a woman
who I have been interested in to, I dressed up for the occasion, as she had
told me she was dressed up.

	Let me stress that she has seen me before in various states of dress
(except naked, and these other times were just chance times that she saw me,)
yet when she saw me dressed up, well, her reaction was a bit more than
favorable.

	Guess ZZtop said it right "They really go crazy for a sharp-dressed
man."
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|Kyle S. Davis
From: pooh@Apple.COM (Wendy Nather)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: 17 Nov 92 08:20:57 GMT
Organization: Internet Refugee Camp

In the referenced article, barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry) writes:
>	Keep telling yourself that, monkey-boy, and maybe the noose
>around your neck will rankle less. The monkey suits are the uniform
>of the salesdroids and administrators; I think of it as their punishment
>for leading a fundamentally useless existence :-).

Knee-jerkism from YOU, Kenn?  Just remember that you're now the people
over 30 you told yourself not to trust ;-)

>>Being a young professional that works with older
>>folks means that you can't do just whatever you want to do all of the
>>time.
>
>	"Older folks"? GMAFB. Us boomers were the ones who brought faded
>denim out of the farms and factories, and into fashion.

Yeah, and voted in a Republican government for 12 years, so
may I give you a hand getting down off your high horse, Kenn? ;-)

>>Wearing a tie dosen't necessarily make you a ... oh MY
>>GOD!..."conformist"!
>
>	True. It makes you a Yuppie. The problem with Yups ain't that
>they've sold out; sometimes that's necessary. The problem is that they
>sold out too young, and usually too cheap. Keep your pottage.

Say hi to your nice Miata for me, when you head out to work
this morning.  I guess you managed to sell out for the right
price without needing the tie, then? ;-)

smooch,
Pooh
	pooh@apple.com
	wendy@il.us.swissbank.com


Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: Being Alone?
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:02:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.142817.13083@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
> 
> Gosh, that sounds even more cynical than I am--is this allowed on 
> soc.singles?  

Who knows?  It's never happened before.

> 
> Trygve   (Not that I'm knocking friendship, acceptance, and reality,
>           mind you--I'm rather fond of them.) 




Larry Billings
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From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: Question: How to increase the male sex drive ?
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:22:35 GMT

markr@mot.com (Mark) writes:

>On a serious note, I have a couple of questions to pose to the net about what
>can affect a male's sex drive.  Basically, I am about 29 (male), have been
>SO-less for the last 4 years (by choice), and have recently met an incredible
>woman (about 31) with, to put it lightly, a very high sex drive.  My sex drive
>has reduced markedly over the past 4 years, and I would like to do what I can
>to increase it.  Question, is there any particular diet that is recommended ?
>Is exercise particularly recommended ?  Anything else ?


I'm 33 and still have a high sex drive, although mine seems to be directly
linked to my exercise regimen.  I work out with weights and run/bicycle
6 days a week.  I get a physical high and a mental meltdown (get all my
agressions out by pounding the pavement and the weights).  I've also 
noticed that after really good workouts, I get very amorous towards the
missus.  Not that I don't anyway, but I do notice an increase in my 
wanting to attack her when I get home.  Maybe THAT'S why we have three
"surprises" in the kid department!  =)

Anyway, for me it's exercise and weightlifting that heightens my libido.

al
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer)
Subject: Re: nkill
Organization: Netcom - San Jose, CA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:59:22 GMT

In article <74245@apple.apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>>rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:
>>>
>>>     Affirmative Action is simply reverse discrimination.  Minorities
>>>here in California receive extra points on their exams for state jobs
>>>just because they are a minority.  Here is a hypothetical example:
>>>A person receives 5 extra points if that person is a minority.
>>>Person W, a non-minority, earns a 95 score on the exam.  Person M,
>>>a minority, earns a 91 score on the exam and gets 5 extra points which
>>>gives her a total of 96.  Person M will be hired, although she is less
>>>qualified than person W, because she is a minority.  That is clearly wrong.
>> 
>I don't know how many more points someone gets for being a member of a 
>minority group, but I question whether someone with a 95 score is "more 
>qualified" than someone with a 90 score. That small a spread could be 
>affected by anything. 

     For state jobs, the hiring manager has to take the person with the
highest adjusted score.  I believe that a person who scores a higher
score than someone else is better qualified.  Look at some sports.
In baseball this year, the Toronto Blue Jays beat the Oakland A's
in the League Championship Series and then the Atlanta Braves in the 
World Series.  Someone may think that the A's and the Braves are
better teams than the Blue Jays, but based upon the rules of the
game, the Blue Jays had better series' and therefore won the
World Championship.  What matters is how you fare against others
on these tests.  By the way, I do realize that tests have limitations.

>
>If my argument is correct, that means the two candidates are equally
>qualified. The real question to ask about affirmative action is whether you
>should give precedence to a member of a minority group who is equally as
>qualified as someone who is not a member of a minority group.
>

     I think that if two people are equally qualified, that one may
be able to hire the "minority" group member instead of the 
non-minority group member.

     How are you going to define minority though?  One who is not a
Christian can claim that one is a minority because Christians have
the most people in the U.S.  So, will you hire a non-Christian over
an equally qualified Christian?  I do realize that the US has laws
against taking into account a person's creed in the application/hiring
process.

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From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Unattached Ph.D.'s (was:Re: Education and the Single World
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 11:25:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.232045.16328@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Nov15.122314.19757@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, allisson@turing.toronto.edu (H. Allisson Roome) writes:
>|> I was born,
>|> raised, and spent all but the last 9 years of my life on Long Island
>|> and I couldn't give a flying ^*#! about Oogs truck -- I also escaped
>|> the accent.
>
>And this Oog fellow...who the hell is Oog, anyway, and what kind of truck
>does he drive?

Dunno about the truck, but if memory serves, Og is best known for his books
on sales techniques.  (Probably covers such things as the "power close" and
the like--I haven't actually read any of them.) 
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From: daniel@clsi.COM (Daniel Barclay)
Subject: Re: Description of the Fetal Remains from an Abortion
Organization: CAD Language Systems Inc.
	<1992Nov21.210107.7915@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>
	<1992Nov22.204329.10301@ncsu.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:11:39

dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
> >...
> 
> I think I know why people have objected to my posting of a  
> description of the fetal remains from an abortion, and it's
> not because it's "inappropriate" for this newsgroup.  

Repeatedly posting it (via your signature) _is_ inappropriate.

>							There
> are ongoing political discussions in this newsgroup, and
> nobody seems to care.  

Maybe because they are discussions, not instances of hiding behind someone
else's intentionally graphic words.  (And not verbatim repetition.)

> 				The people in this newsgroup don't  
> want others to realize that abortion destroys a human life.

Maybe some don't agree with your premise.  Maybe some don't like your virtual
passing out of anti-abortion leaflets with gory pictures.

> They could put me in a killfile, and they wouldn't have to 
> read the description.  But it's the fact that other people
> can read the description which upsets them.

What upsets me is seeing your repeated enclosure of the anti-abortion article.
Maybe I'll go learn how to use my kill file.

On the possibly helpful side:

I heard on TV news about some ardent anti-abortionists and ardent pro-abor-
tionist who realized that they had common ground; they decided to work toward
reducing the need for abortions (by providing contraceptive education, I 
think).  The anti-abortionists got to reduce the number of abortions, and the 
pro-abortionists got to prevent unwanted children.  Why don't you try that?

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