From: melissa@hssc.scarolina.edu (Melissa Faust)
Subject: Re: Fuck You All
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:24:52 GMT

hugoglez@well.sf.ca.us (Hugo Gonzalez) writes:

>I have received a lot of flame mail for what I said in response to Jeff.
>I thoght I should clear up some misconceptions.

>I do not think all black people are "niggers".  I do think some black people
>are niggers, just as some white people are niggers.  It just happens that
>there are more black niggers than white niggers, thats all.  There is no
>reason for people to get upset about this.  It has been scientifically proven
>that black people are not as smart as white people, something to so with
>the size of the brain or genetics.  Do not flame me for this, as this is
>accepted as FACT in the scientific community.  If you don't belive me,
>look around you.  Look at how many balck people are on welfare.  Compare
>that to the number of white people on welfare.  The statistics will prove
>it.
	Where are your statistics? Who scientifically proved this? Coon?
If that is your source forget it. I recently did a paper on Races. Know what?
T_H_E Scientific community pretty much accepts that there are no races.
let me enlighten you with some sources. If you would prefer that to the blatant generalizations I see in your post. There are so many problems with your beliefs that it is hard to know where to start.
	Ok lets ry this. What makes someone black or white or oriental. Color
What about blood groupings and MNs-U. How about adding in Rhesus factor?
Ask a real scientist and they will tell you it is impossible to construct racialcategories based on more than one factor. Why- because the human animal is too
social an animal to have split off and formed different races. BTW ask a REAL
Scinetist and they will tell you that race is approximatly = to species. There
is only one species of human alive today. Homo Sapiens Sapien.
	As far as I know there are no balck people on welfare. There might be
bLack people on welfare but so what. Do you assume that some factoid you have is causal or have you considered that it might be correlational? I doubt it.actor. Why? Because the human animal is much
too social to have split off and formed different races. BTW REAL scientists
know that a race is app 

>Now you can choose to ignore the facts, or you can accept them.  I am not
>saying white people are superior, just smarter (genetically).

>How many black people have become president?  Zero.  Some people took 
>offense to the word "train" applied to black people.  Well, white
>people can be trained too.  Get off your politically correct asses
>and see the world the way it really is.  White people will always have
>the upper hand.  Its a fact of life we must learn to live with.  I
>don't like it any more than you do (I am NOT white, I am hispanic).

	Hmmm. Here you say that black people can be trained and white people
can be trained to. BUT in the same paragraph you present a behavior and say
that it is impossible to train white people to behave differently. Isnt
training = to learning. Funny who would you think is smarter. Person A who can
be trained OR Person B who cant. 

>The way I see it, this is the intelligence scale of races, smartest
>at the top...

>Oriental
>White
>Hispanic
>Black
>Polish
	
	Funny last time I looked Polish people were caucasion when you subscribe
to racial theories. Your scale is shit and Im losing my patience with you.

>I am right in the middle, so I am not that far above black people, so
>don't give me shit about it.  That does not mean the people near
>the bottom of the scale are destined to clean toilets all their lives.
>I spent 8 years in medical school and am now a practicing physician.
>If I can do it, thjen so can everybody else.  Itsw just that the
>dumber people have to work harder, and not take the easy way out
>by turning to drugs and crime.
	Hmmm. This is starting to sound like a good argument for affirmative
action. Did you get into Medical school under a scholarship. Did they weight your scores so you could qualify? How dare you take some poor deserving WHITE students place so you could take your GENETICALLY less intelligent ass to MEDICAL school? 

>Being black or hispanic is kind of like being mentally handicapped.
>We may not have the brains of the white man, but with determination,
>we can overcome our handicap!  Don't let racism get you down.
	Being black is kind of like being socially handicapped. Somebody is
always handing out crap to anyone who will listen to it. How would you feel if
someone said that to you and you believed them. Or if A LOT of people said that
to you. Wouldnt you feel beaten down? NO?!!! THen you are either a lier or you
are not human.


>That all I had to say, someone else can take the soapbox now..
	All I have to say is Im glad you became a doctor and not a teacher.
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA