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From: pisarevsky@b56vxg.kp01.kodak.com (Arkady Pisarevsky)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: St. Bernards as Guard Dogs ???
Date: 3 Apr 92 13:49:45 GMT
Reply-To: pisarevsky@b56vxg.kp01.kodak.com
Organization: Big Yellow Box
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4

In article <26623@ursa.UUCP>, millman@ursa.UUCP (Phillip Millman) writes...
> 
>2) Are there any other St. Bernard owners that get protected by their dogs?

    I don't have a St. Bernard, but last fall we had a lawyer who also
owns/breeds St. Bernards come in to the club meeting to talk about legal 
aspects of dog ownership. He mentioned that 2 of his dogs got loose once
and treed a burglar. I guess they (the dogs) thought he (the burglar) was 
suspicious looking and didn't fit into the neigborhood. And the guy wasn't
even trying to rob their house !!!
> 
>Thanks 
>Phillip
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From: beepy@ennoyab.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Pawlowski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: 6 month old Mastiff, mouthing during play (the kid)
Keywords: training, biting, kids, mastiff
Date: 9 Apr 92 07:25:57 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: ennoyab

Well, quick update:

	Winston, the brindle mastiff I got about
	15-16 weeks old is doing fine. He is exactly
	six months old tomorrow, and weighed in at
	88 pounds tonite (he's "athletic" aka small).
	My wife loves him (she was leery at first).
	He had his third obedience lesson today, doing
	fine. Kid (eight years old) and I walk him
	at night, while I practice permutations of
	obedience exercises.

Slight problem. He is still "biting" my son during play.
It isn't "biting" so much as mouthing--he doesn't snap,
or act mean, or put much pressure. He more mouths my
son's arm, leg, or butt:-) The butt part is important.
The mouthing usually occurs when my son decides to
run up and down this corridor in the house, letting the
dog run after him.

Now, the quandary. They both obviously enjoy running around like
maniacs in the house. Winston likes Nik more and more
(i.e. he sees him as a play partner). But the mouthing
concerns me.

Questions:

	1. How can I stop the mouthing and still let them
	   run around like maniacs--the exercise is good for
	   both--not too wild.

	2. How concerned should I be. [My concern is increased
	   because Winston occassionally tries to mouth my
	   hand when I pet him, more so my wife--obviously
	   a pecking order here].

	3. What exercises should I do to emphasize no
	   mouthing?

	4. What play is "healthy" for the kid and the dog?
	   [Is running games bad? I understand tug-of-war is
	   a no-no with potentially dominant 200 pound
	   dogs:-)]

	   I would love *lots* of suggestions.

	5. I don't let Nik correct Winston (Winston is about
	   twice Nik's weight now, or will be soon). I understand
	   that kid's should not correct dogs. [You know,
	   shaking the scruff of the neck.]

He's a good dog. Best I ever had. He's way mellow. Incredibly
well-behaved in class, at the park. On leash now during walks,
no tugging, keeps pace, fun to be with. Not particularly bugged
by other dogs (growled on two occassions, immediately reprimanded,
and he gave me the goofy look that says "Huh?" and acted
cool.)

I want Nik and the dog to have tons of fun together. Perhaps I'm
being overly worried about this...

[The breeder gave me a real good bit of advice on my concerns
about Mastiffs--if people remember all my questions: "We are
talking about a dog here. He's not special, don't treat him
differently because he's a Mastiff. Have fun with him, enjoy
him, let your kid have fun." At the time it was advice I needed.
He is a dog--just the best one I ever had:-) He's not "slow" so
much as "stubborn". When he gets an idea in his head--usually
along the lines of "no, I want to stay right where I am" it takes
a lot to motivate him... I can't wait until he is 180 pounds.]
From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Strange things my dog does (not problems).
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:25:26 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

If I take my dog's collar off him, he jumps around and barks at me 
until I put it back on.

Also, he likes to eat the stuff my wife puts out in the back yard for 
the rabbits - like broccoli for instance.  (Yeah, that's right, my 
wife will feed any small furry thing including wild rabbits.)

John G. Heim                                 Email:  heim@macc.wisc.edu
**************** Not responsible for lost or stolen articles. ****************
From: jennyb@carina.unm.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Dogs, itch and cortisone
Summary: Flogs bitchin' corduroy
Keywords: Frogs retching horrible
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:34:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.3_1jc7n
Organization: Og's Kitchen PortaJohn

My two dogs have been suffering for some months with an itchy
skin condition in their back leg-pits.  The dogs are mother
and daughter, and the daughter was diagnosed as atopic after
developing a large abdominal lump after spaying (allergic to
internal stitches).  

At its worst, the mother's skin was red, blistered, hairless,
and darkened.  She was affected on both sides.  The daughter
was only affected on one and not as badly.  At this point I
started rubbing over-the-counter cortisone ointment on them,
at first daily then tapering off to the present once every
couple of weeks.  I also cleaned the hay out of their 
doghouse, though they usually sleep inside.

The results have been very good.  They are not scratching,
the blisters have subsided and the skin is drying out and
returning to normal.  (It is still darkened and hairless.)
Will they have any bad effects from continuing to use the
cortisone ointment?  Will they have any bad effects if I cut
them off?  How should I treat their run (dirt) to avoid a
recurrence next year?  When should the hair start growing
back?

Also, would a mole-like growth (Papilloma?) removed before
1 year, with no recurrence at 5 years, imply anything about
later cancer risks?  This is on a Doberman-Rottweiler cross.

Thanks,
Jenny Ballmann
jennyb@carina.unm.edu
From: an12370@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David C. Tuttle)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Does Gary Larson own a dachshund?
Date: 14 Apr 1992 15:34:19 GMT
Distribution: na

libman@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Marlena Libman's sister Bonnie) writes:
< 
< I have noticed that Gary Larson seems to have a keen interest
< in wiener dogs (i.e. dachshunds), especially female black and
< tan ones.  Both the Wiener Dog Art Far Side Collection and the
< Wiener Dog Art calendar feature many female black and tan 
< dachsies.    
< 
< Does anyone know if this is because he owns or has
< owned one?  If so, what is the wiener's name?

I recall reading in a recent (sometime last year) newspaper profile
that despite the subject of the Wiener Dog Art calendar, Gary Larson
does not cohabitate with a dachshund.  I don't recall for sure, but I
think I read that he doesn't have any dogs (or other animals?) living
with him.

Our dachshund is named Ginger, as in "blah blah blah Ginger." :-)
--
David C. Tuttle                               dct@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu
Software Systems Specialist               Department of Biomathematics
University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center         Houston, Texas
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
Subject: Re: Calling all puppy experts! Trouble in Golden City! (long)
Keywords: please
Organization: Martin Marietta Information Systems
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:08:08 GMT

In article <rqhj1INN1k5@moe.ksu.ksu.edu> terry@eece.ksu.edu (Terry Hull) writes:
>marc@malone.austin.ibm.com (Marc Stephenson) writes:
>
>[history deleted]
>
>Before I even start, I would recommend, "The Art of Raising a Puppy"
>by the Monks of New Skete.  It will teach you a lot more than I will
>in this one short reply.  

Yes!  I just began reading it last night, and coincidentally they
discuss in the first one or two chapters an owner of a Golden pup who is
also disappointed in his young dog's behavior.  The monks remind us that
puppies aren't adult dogs, and suggest that the owner is placing
expectations on his new dog that are based on his recently deceased
companion dog.

...

>I would introduce the crate slowly.  Introduce the create by putting
>treats inside for the puppy to go get.  Feed him in the crate.  Pet
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This seems counterproductive to me, since one of the rationales for
crating is to house train your dog by keeping it in a "den" which it
won't soil.  Puppies usually need to eliminate soon after eating, and
most owners make a point of immediately taking their dog outside after
eating.  By feeding your dog in the crate, you may be causing a conflict
between the positive feelings for it's den you want to encourage and the
stress of bowel and bladder control.  Remember, the most effective way
to help your dog develop good behavior is to prevent the opportunity for
bad behavior.

Gotta love those puppies,
-- 
Kevin Rodgers				kevin@crowded-house.den.mmc.com
Martin Marietta MS A16401		(303) 790-3971
116 Inverness Dr. East
Englewood CO 80112 USA
From: crs@beta.lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Vicious dog definition
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:01:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: newshost.1992Apr8.180140.8946
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory

In article <1992Apr8.145343.1610@sequent.com> schalene@sequent.com writes:

= Instead of legislating against
= supposedly viscious breeds, its too bad we can't legislate against
= irresponsible pet ownership.

Instead of legislating against X, its too bad we can't legislate
against *irresponsible* X ownership.

I can't think of any X for which that isn't true.


-- 
Best,

Charlie "Older than dirt" Sorsby				"I'm the NRA!"
	  crs@lanl.gov
From: schalene@sequent.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Sit Command (Re: Ankle-biting puppy question)
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:55:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Apr10.165525.15661
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Apr10.151702.23050@newshost.lanl.gov> crs@beta.lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby) writes:
>
>Training can begin but keep it *short* and positive--perhaps one
>iteration at first--then go play at something that's fun *for the
>pup*.  Even the one iteration of training should be approached as a
>game.  For example:  While you are playing with the pup, gently
>grasp its collar and (again, gently) hold its front end up and
>(again gently) push its back end down while saying "Sit."  As soon
>as it reaches the desired position (or even a reasonable approximation
>of it) say "Good Sit" and then give your release command and return
>to playing.  You can, of course, repeat this later but I believe
>that at this age anything more than one repetition at a time is
>overdoing it.  Several of these one-repetition "sit games" per day
>should be OK, though.  If you believe in healthful treats, it would
>be appropriate to give one as you say "Good sit" at first but then
>gradually phase out the treat and eventually phase out the "Good
>sit" reward itself.
>
I think Charlie's training advice is very good, but I'd like to add
one clarificaton about "Sit."  Young puppies are still developing and
you don't want to put too much pressure on their hips.  We've found
that by gently pulling up on the leash while pushing into the hind end
gets them to sit.  When I mean pushing into the hind end, I mean put
your hand on either side of tail (tail between your fingers) and push
slightly down and toward their front legs.  They go into a sit
everytime.  
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: sss@netcom.com (Small Systems Solutions)
Subject: Re: Females More 'Family Oriented'?
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 16:14:17 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <44385@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> 
	 saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belzowski (K-9's)) writes:

>In article <19323@sybase.sybase.com> joe@pluto.sybase.com () writes:
>>Does anyone with experience of male and female dogs care to
>>comment on the notion that female dogs tend to be more 
>>'responsible' and concerned towards their family, whereas
>>males are more concerned with their turf (territorial)?
>
>It just depends on your preference.  Males tend to be more
>outgoing than females, if you have very small children, you may
>want a more reserved female.  

My experience is mostly with GSDs, and I find females to be more
territorial, and males, more aggressive. Females are more "protective"
or "responsible" or "proprietary" about children and their own
offspring.  I find females to be more reliable around children, and
babies especially.

Having said that, I generally prefer males. They bite harder :-)

-- 
Small Systems Solutions                   1563 Solano Avenue, Suite 123
sss@netcom.com                                  Berkeley, CA 94707-2116

The above-expressed opinions aren't necessarily
From: terry@eece.ksu.edu (Terry Hull)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: why pekingese
Date: 6 Apr 1992 22:02:36 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: ralph.eece.ksu.edu

X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:

>In article <21020131@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>
>      reykja@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Reykja Sigurdss on) writes:
>>why do Pekingese dogs exist?
> 
>    Lunch for big dogs!    ;-)
> 
>Sorry, I just couldn't resist.....

I know Chris was teasing here, but I did want to share an experience
with you.  It just goes to illustrate that not all owners of small
dogs are amused by the 'lunch' joke.

Last year, as I was entering the local Nation Guard armory where we train, a
MinPin (complete with owner) came up to my Rottweiler, Bear, and
started barking at Bear like a crazy dog.  I looked down, smiled, and
said, "Look Bear, lunch!"  I had a smile on my face, and I thought I
was obviously kidding.  The owner of the MinPin stared at me and said,
"That would be the last lunch your dog ever ate!" and stormed away. 

I learned my lesson.  No more 'lunch' jokes unless the person knows me
and my dog.  BTW: Bear has lived through a Sheltie puppy, a Basset
puppy and a Border Collie/Great Pyreneese puppy, and not a one of them
has ever been injured by him in any way.  He had not even raised a lip
at this obnoxious little dog and the MinPin was the one that approached
us, but still the owner was furious.  

--
Terry Hull  -  terry@eece.ksu.edu
Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering, Kansas State University
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: smm1@troy.uucp (27352-michelson)
Subject: Re: Suggestions on Child's pet
Reply-To: smm1@troy.UUCP ()
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 14:59:30 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.200546.8752@b15.b15.ingr.com> lynn@b15.b15.ingr.com (Lynn Lee) writes:
>I have a friend who's wanted to get her son a dog.  Her son is five
>years old.
>
>She wants a pet that can stay outside.  She wants a medium sized dog (not
>as big as a lab).  She wants to make sure that it doesn't bark alot and
>is good with children.
>
>
>Any suggestions?

How about a rabbit? 

Chances are pretty good that any dog who's an outside dog WILL BARK ALOT!!!




_______________________________________________________________________________
Steve Michelson                |   Paying tolls is like throwing money out
Bell Communications Research   |   the window.
smm1@troy.cc.bellcore.com      |
From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Subject: Re: help doggie bad breath
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Reply-To: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:37:37 GMT

In <1992Apr14.180032.2707@cbfsb.cb.att.com> joni@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (joni.dunlap) writes:

>Help I can't stand haveing my dog Asta by me any more. Her mouth is foul.
>I took her to the vet had her teeth cleaned and a few removed last year.
>Changed her to dry food and very little table scraps. With in 3 months
>her breath started to stink again and is now smelling like somthing
>died in there. Asta does not like to chew on raw hide or milk bones.
>I don't have the time to be brushing her teeth every day. Whats a mother
>to do? I can't stand being near here anymore. I can't afford to be getting
>dental work for a dog every three months. HELP

Foul breath like you describe is often caused by an abscessed tooth
(even more than one).  "Like something died in there" is a classic
description.  I'm sorry, but preventative care for your dog, as she
appears to be prone to abscessed teeth from your description, will
have to be done; that, or pay for more dental work.  Brushing her
teeth is much cheaper, and can take just a few minutes if you take the
time to get her used to it.  I can talk more about that if you want,
having had a dog with nearly the same problem and disposition (didn't
like to chew things) as yours.

Since her breath smells now, she now has an abscessed tooth (or teeth)
you have to have taken care of.  Take her in for that, and brush her
teeth after that to prevent any more.

Nylabones (not rawhide or milk bones) are the #1 recommended product
for keeping teeth clean, but I don't know if your dog will chew on it
or not.

--Cindy

--
Cindy Tittle Moore -- anxiously awaiting lab puppy in mid-June.

Currently working on rec.pets.dogs FAQ.  Now in seven parts, preliminary
versions of five parts have been posted.  Anticipated "official" posting
(crossposted to news.answers and archival at FTP site) in early May.
From: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Questions:  Lyme Disease vaccine
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:36:17 GMT
Reply-To: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH

For those who wish to vaccinate against Lyme's, there is no need to spend $50
for a series of two shots. Omaha Vaccine sells the Borrelia Burgdorferi
Bacterin vaccine (Lyme's) for $7.45 for a single does vial. Note that the
vaccine is NOT available in CO, HI, IN, KY MT, or NJ. Don't know why.
.............................................................................
Marget Johnson, Windwagon Newfs
--
From: schalene@sequent.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Obedience Training Question
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:10:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Apr7.161041.23409
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <44134@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belzowski (K-9's)) writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.165713.18378@sequent.com> schalene@sequent.com writes:
>>I've got a question about puppy obedience classes.  What is the ideal
>>age to enroll your puppy and yourself in a class?  I'm afraid I may
>>have made a mistake and would like to correct it before its too late.
>>
(middle of post full of my worries about training and Marla's good
answeres deleted)
>
>Sounds like a resaonable trainer.  Puppys are working on the static exercises
>which is the frist step I use with all my classes.  It just may take
>a bit for him to get conforatable with the situation.  Just give him
>a lot of praise.

Max did so much better last night.  Like a totally different puppy.
Someone sent me an email suggesting I bring Max early so he can get
used to the space before all the big puppies arrived and meet the
puppies one by one instead of being overwhelmed.  I did this and
he was much more outgoing.  

Max did great on his attention exercise (looking at me while walking
in front of all the other puppies).  I was really impressed until the
trainer said that at his age, I'm his whole focus in life....oh, well.
I know its true -- me and the mulch around the bushes in the backyard!

Also 2 new puppies came to class -- a Scottie and a Shiba Inu (sp)
sort of looks like a minature Akita -- very pretty.  Max's favorite 
playmate is the rottie, Allie.  The Scottie is his least favorite.  
That dog is mean.  But I think its a parent problem more than a puppy 
problem.  The lady broght her son along and he was totally obnoxious 
and was never disciplined -- I hope the same thing doesn't happen to the
Scottie!

Thanks to all who recommended that we stick with it!

schalene
From: X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: White Lab ?
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:37:31 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University

In article <1992Apr14.173422.6013@morrow.stanford.edu>
    liza@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Liza Miller) writes:
 
> A yellow
> lab of any shade MUST have the dark black pigment in its nose and
                   ----
> pads and around its eyes to be correct however.
>
 
   And be able to hunt.
 
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From: riacmt@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Carol Miller-Tutzauer)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Two vs. One (Re: lonely dogs)
Date: 17 Apr 92 03:00:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr16.174422.15284@sequent.com>, schalene@sequent.com writes...
  > 
  >How old should your first dog be before considering a second?
  > 
  >schalene

Our GSD puppy was about 5 to 6 months old when we got a 2nd
GSD (2 1/2 yrs) from the animal shelter.  They hated each
other the first 2 days, but by the 3rd day they were fast
friends.  I think the older the dog is and the more it is
used to being the center of your affections, obviously the
more likely the dog will be upset (at least initially) by
the addition of a second dog.  By only concern is that
I didn't want two dogs of vastly different sizes because
I was afraid that one might hurt the other during some
rough play.  That's why we got an older (grown) dog
once our puppy wasn't so puppy-sized anymore.

Carol
riacmt@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: schalene@sequent.com
Subject: Re: Strange eating habits
Organization:  Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 18:07:02 GMT

Kleenex seems to be a universal treat for dogs -- that and toilet
paper.  I haven't had a dog yet that didn't love them. 

Our first dog, a beagle, would do anything for a Kleenex.  I was 7
years old and taking piano lessons.  I used to practice before school.
Evidently, I had left a wadded up Kleenex near the keyboard when I
finished practicing.  About an hour after I left for school, mom heard
the piano and couldn't believe I was still at home.  When she went to
investigate, she found our beagle walking up and down the keyboard
chewing on the Kleenx he'd jumped up to get.

It also tells you something about my piano playing ability -- that it
could be confused with a beagle walking on the keyboard ;-)

schalene