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From: CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Soccer on Cable in US ?
Date: 23 Dec 1992 22:40:03 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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 >....When you say Sports Channel America -- is it same as ESPN ?

No, they are two different animals. ESPN is on virtually every cable
system in the US, while PRIME and Sports Channel America (and its
regional affiliates: SC New England, SC Chicago, SC Pacific, etc.) are
much less widely seen.

ESPN (together with ABC) will do USA '94, but you wouldn't know it from
their soccer coverage in the past few years. A good idea would be to
complain to ESPN. As for Sports Channel, you might want to be a pest
with you local cable monopoly. Get your friends to call and write
and you might be able to get them to add it to your system. It would be
good to get, as SC has a lot more soccer than PRIME. I am in the same
position as you, and have been bugging my cable system for a while now
to add SC.

Good luck,

Chris

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From: MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF)
Subject: Re: RULE CHANGES
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 11:27:23 GMT
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In <tom.7@varian.com> tom@varian.com writes:

> 
> >> ALSO, THERE SHOULD BE A GREATER NUMBER OF SUBSTITUTIONS 
> >>ALLOWED.  WHAT DO YOU THINK?  SEND ME YOUR RESPONSES!
> 	yeh! i believe 2 subs/half instead of /game is a happy compromise.
> 	This will give more playing experience to the players.

...but avoid unlimited substitution, please! This is something the American
college game has tried, teams reportedly have 11 subs on the bench and shuttle
players in and out of the game. The emphasis is more on running and strength
than on skill. I would love to see AC Milan overwhelm the opposition using all
their players in this way, though!
---
My own opinion? Use FIFA's current rule for non-competitive matches - five subs
on the bench, any of these may enter the game, no substituted player may
re-enter play. Would be much more fair, Italian coach Azeglio Vicini
substituted the wrong guy during the 1990 World Cup semifinal game against
Argentina and lost. He was unable to rectify the mistake when another player
was hurt, forcing him to use his second substitute as well.
 
> !)

MARCU$
From: math1pu@elroy.uh.edu (Douglas Luo)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Maradona or Pele.
Date: 21 Dec 1992 12:32 CST
Organization: University of Houston
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In article <1992Dec19.191137.19848@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>, hamoudy@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Mohamad E Allaf) writes...
>      I am very surprised to see people trying to compare Maradona to Pele.  Pele is by far the better overall player.  He had more talent than Maradona and I believe a huge impact on the game of soccer.  When one attempts to make a great play in soccer 
> 
> 
>r equal to that of Pele and no one will ever play better.                                     
>                            ^^ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^ 
> 
>						M.A--
> 
> 
>e l

Once an archaeologist claimed that he had found a coin dated 46 BC, do you
believe him?


SOMETIMES I THINK I LEARN MORE IF I CLOSE ALL MY BOOKS.
From: rich_b@sn4402.oldham.gpsemi.com (Richard Bogusz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Ipswich 1-0 Villa - Coca Cola Cup
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:34:32 GMT
Organization: GEC Plessey Semiconductors

In article <BznM2x.A33@axion.bt.co.uk>, jhiggott@emerald.axion.bt.co.uk (Jeff Higgott) writes:
|> Following the 1-0 victory by Ipswich Town over Aston Villa in the Coca Cola
|> Cup last week, the Town Manager Mick McGiven gave a TV interview.  A
|> transcription of his thoughts on the game follows:
|> 
|> 
|> "I think it was a very typical cup tie.  There wasn't much space about; the
|> football was a premium.  There was a lot of tackles and not much space and
|> it was going to be decided by, I thought, the set piece and as it happens we
|> were fortunate enough to get the one that matters.
|> 
|> "I thought Villa had a couple of opportunities which missed.  We had a couple
|> of opportunities - but in fairness it was one of those cup ties where there
|> wasn't much space about and the sides were pretty much even-steven.  We were
|> fortunate enough to get on the end of the only goal that mattered and I'm
|> very pleased for the players and people of Suffolk."
|> 
|> 
|> Jeff...
|> 
|>  "From the valleys of Leicestershire and all over
|>   came mystic crew filth" - MES
Jeff

There is more to this article than meets the eye!  I have read it several times
and have yet to find it...but I'm sure it's in there.  Come back Bobby Robson
all is forgiven.

-- 
Richard Bogusz				"You can lead a horse to water..
GEC Plessey Semiconductors LTD		But a pencil must be lead!"
Oldham, United Kingdom.				Stan Laurel 
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From: mostosi@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (federico mostosi)
Subject: Re: ANGLO ITALIAN Cup 4th week
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:10:07 GMT

mostosi@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (federico mostosi) writes:






>Result of the 4th week of the ANGLO-ITALIAN Cup


>Group A

>Ascoli		-  Portsmouth      2-2
				   ^^^
>Brentford 	-  Bari            2-1
>Lucchese	-  Birmingham      3-0
>Newcastle      -  Cesena	   2-2

>Brentford is in table first position with 12 points.
.......

Forgive me!!
Correction will follow 

Ascoli		-  Portsmouth      1-2

					greetings FEDE



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From: mn@vcp1.vcp.monash.edu.au
Subject: Scottish Xmas Results
Organization: 
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 12:12:04 GMT

Since the Scottish Scots must still be digesting the
Xmas pud & miscellaneous straw coloured beverages ( no
results for the Xmas period have appeared in RSS )
I will try to fill the gap from the Oz papers.

Premier Div
 
Celtic 0  Dundee Utd 1 ( a Xmas present for S. & S. ? )
Dundee 1  Rangers 3    ( S & S must've thought the
                         journey to Dens worthwhile )
Falkirk 3 Hibs 3
Hearts 1 Jags 1  ( Another challenge to Rangers falters )
'Well 0 Aberdeen 2 ( Dons only ones left within cooee )

Premeir League
Top 4
              P    Pts
Rangers      22    38
Aberdeen     23    34
Celtic       24    30
Hearts       24    28

Bottom 4

Dundee       24    18
Falkirk      24    16
Airdrie      24    16
Motherwell   23    13

The bottom looks more in doubt than the top - at this stage.

The meagre para reporting these results said:

Hateley (2) and McCoist ( his 34th of the season) scored
for Rangers, who avenged their only defeat of the season,
a 4-3 loss to Dundee in Aug. The 'Gers made it 28 without
a loss.

(Note: The only other result of note was that QP 
got a rare point-  against Stenhousemuir at home 2-2 )

A guid ne'erday tae yin an a' 
from

Manuel, in Melbourne in Oz
From: alexj@access.digex.com (Alex Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Americans at Forest ?
Date: 25 Dec 1992 05:15:41 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Expires: 12-31
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Harbour played a couple of seasons with the old Washington Stars and
Maryland Bays; he could be spectacular one game and invisible the next. I
imagine he pulled one of his vanishing acts at his Forest tryout.

Alex Johnson
Washington, DC
alexj@access.digex.com
 

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From: jcostas@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (constantinos.n.tsioras)
Subject: English results from Dec 26th and 28th 
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 21:45:48 GMT

Could somebody please post the English results from the games played on
Dec 26th and 28th (both days had full programmes).

The few results that I know are from Dec 26th.

Dec 26th (Boxing Day)
---------------------
Arsenal     0  Ipswich       0   (yet another crappy result for the Gunners)
Blackburn   3  Leeds         1
Coventry    3  Aston Villa   0   (I bet this was celebrated at Highfield Rd)
Sheff Wed   3  Man United    3
Norwich     0  Tottenham     0
Chelsea     ?  Southampton   ?
Man City    ?  Sheff United  ?
Nott Forest ?  QPR           ?
Oldham      ?  Liverpool     ?
Everton     ?  Middlesbrough ?
Crystal P   ?  Wimbledon     ?

Dec 28th
--------
Aston Villa ?   Arsenal      ?
Ipswich     ?   Blackburn    ?
Tottenham   ?   Nottm Forest ?
Sheff U     ?   Oldham       ?
Southampton ?   Sheff Wed    ?
QPR         ?   Everton      ?
Liverpool   ?   Man City     ?
Wimbledon   ?   Chelsea      ?
Leeds       ?   Norwich      ?
Middlesboro ?   Crystal P    ?
Man United  ?   Coventry     ?

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From: moynihan_r@apollo.hp.com (Robert Moynihan)
Subject: Re: English Premier League results
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:59:24 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <BzMsqu.2uo@ncube.com> zod@ncube.com writes:
>
>What the heck is the problem with Arsenal this year?
>
>Arsenal    1  Middlesbrough 1 (another crappy result, Wright equalised)
>
>Captain Zod...
>zod@ncube.com 

I don't know...but I hope it lasts for one more week. :-)

By the way, thanks to all the folks that mailed me the 2-0 result
for Ipswich Town vs Norwich City!                                                        

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Bob Moynihan                         Go Ipswich Town!
moynihan_r@apollo.hp.com             Never let the rocks cry out.
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  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not for Hewlett-Packard Co.
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From: widl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Bernhard Widl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: the best teams in Europe
Date: 22 Dec 92 10:58:05 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Originator: widl@vesta.cip.informatik.uni-muenchen.de



I think, without Bayern Munich, NOTHING does work in european soccer.

And, since Bayern has been No. 1 all this half-season, I think

Bayern is (again) No. 1 in Germany and therefore all ranking lists

which have a german club ranking before Bayern are WRONG!!!

Concerrning all european clubs, my list of the top 10 is:

1) AC Milan
2) Juventus Turin
3) Real Madrid
4) Ajax Amsterdam
5) Bayern Munich 
6) Olympique Marseille
7) PSV Eindhoven
8) Inter Milan
9) FC Porto
10) AS Roma

My estimated ranks for other German clubs are:
Eintracht Frankfurt No. 12, Werder Bremen No.18, Borussia Dortmund No. 25
(since they haven't convinced me this half-season), VFB Stuttgart No.40
(They have been good only one season, but now they are back to normal
strength)
From: ajgam@sabrina.inesc (Antonio Jorge Gomes de Almeida Marques)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: English League still SUCKS a lot
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:58:49 GMT
Organization: INESC (Inst. Eng. Sistemas e Computadores) -LISBOA -PORTUGAL

In article <1992Dec16.180756.9706@ultb.isc.rit.edu> mxt7690@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

>   Referring to article 12443.
>   Hard to digest,huh ? Come on guys let's face the reality.OK ? Good .

   You bet .....


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From: CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Coming vote for R.S.S. Player of the year (information)
Date: 22 Dec 1992 13:40:40 -0600
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Kent,

Nice idea!

I am not volunteering to serve as a '94 vote taker, as I travel too much and
don't log on religiously enough to take on such a task. However, I would
like to suggest that you include two North American publications for the
list too: Soccer America and Soccer International.

If you don't have the addresses, I can provide them.

Best, Chris

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From: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Off Topic
Date: 25 Dec 1992 10:06:23 -0600
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I'm just checking that the signature change looks fine.
I'e. try DUMII!

Greetings, Modesty
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From: timh@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Timothy James Hatfield)
Subject: Re: Dutch competition (ere-divisie), round 16.
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 13:54:31 GMT


In article <schraag.724944708@lri.jur.uva.nl> schraag@lri.jur.uva.nl (Joost Schraag) writes:
>
>Go Ahead Eagles - Roda JC 2-0
>   49' Rorije
>   69' van Blerk
>       ^^^^^^^^^ 
<other results deleted> 

Was this Aussie Jason van Blerk ? I seem to recall he was trying to secure a
first-team spot in Holland, but I couldn't recall with what team ...

-- 
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EX-University of Sydney /      \ |  Lord more clearly seen than in the  
timh@extro.ucc.su.oz.au \_.--._* |  estrangement that divides all those who 
ak530@po.cwru.edu             v  |  still oppose him." Haldir, Lord Of The Rings
From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Dutch players in Scotland
Date: 21 Dec 92 13:40:28 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <1992Dec21.134532@cs.utwente.nl>, tempelma@cs.utwente.nl (Frank Tempelman) writes:
> Hello
> 
> I want to know how well the dutch players Pieter Huistra (Rangers)
> and Theo Snelders (Aberdeen) are playing. They both played for FC Twente, here 
> in Enschede. Dutch papers are not covering the competition in Scotland very 
> well.
>  
> Do you people in Scotland think that Snelders is good enough to play in the 
> dutch national team (instead of Menzo (bad) or De Goey (better))?


	Huistra can play well at times but all too often his final cross
is very poor.  Having said that, there's too many cluggers in Scotland 
waiting to hack him down.  Can't do much for his confidence knowing he's
liable to get kicked all the time.

As for Snelders, he's a good enough keeper  and probably deserves his chance.

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From: meir@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (Yigal Meir)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Soccer on Cable in US ?
Date: 28 Dec 92 22:34:22 GMT

lokes@selway.umt.edu (Lokeswara Rao) writes:

>In article <9212222001.AA21099@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen) writes:
>>Your two best bets for soccer on US cable are:
>>
>>Sports Channel America -
>>
>>and PRIME
>>
>>Chris


>When you say Sports Channel America -- is it same as ESPN ?

>The only two sports channels available on cable in my area are
>PRIME Sports and ESPN.

>Lokes.

 Sport channel is, of course, different than ESPN. However, you are
 lucky, if you're looking for English league soccer. Prime Ticket,
 the local Prime Sport channel, shows English an English league
 game on Sunday morning (1130am) with a repeat on Tuesday afternoon,
 depending on the Hockey games. If your Prime network is not Prime
 Ticket you can look up their schedule or call them up.
------------------
Yigal Meir
From: morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Hello
Date: 23 Dec 92 11:15:30 GMT
Reply-To: morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U


(Blush)

I've been asked to say hello to fellow fitba fans here in r.s.s.

It's true I've not been around for a while... I have been adding to the
total of Celtic fans by introducing wee Rosie to the world and to
fitba.

So far she's only seen it on the TV, and has shown a worrying lack of
interest, though she can say "Ball".

I hope to be attending games more frequently in the spring, though as
I'm sure many of you know, these are miserable times for us Celtic
fans.


Cheers and Merry Christmas

M

-- 
Morna Findlay 					JANET:morna@uk.ac.ed.dcs 
	Thanksgiving For a National Victory (Robert Burns)
Ye hypocrites! are these your pranks? To murder men and give God thanks?
Desist, for shame! Proceed no further: God won't accept your thanks for murther.
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From: bartjan@sci.kun.nl (Bart-Jan Bouwers)
Subject: San Marco
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
X-Newsreader: NN version 6.4.19
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 11:25:31 GMT

I just read that Marco is not able to play for 3 months from now!
Check your local newspaper for the reasons.

Bart-Jan.
From: CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: england-turkey for wc94
Date: 29 Dec 1992 09:52:57 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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 Channel 27 (Worcester, right?) is partially in spanish and shows these
matches which are broadcast by Telemundo (a "competitor" of Univision)
each Sunday at 4:00 PM. Most of the matches are on tape and delayed
for several weeks. The England - Turkey and Scotland - Italy matches
were both World Cup elimination matches and were played in either
late November or early December.

Best, Chris

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From: swindoro@iastate.edu (New Jersey)
Subject: Cristmas Break
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 20:31:06 GMT

Hello, there..
Is there any match in Italian League within this 2 weeks ?

thanx !

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From: mallon@hsi.com (Dan Mallon-Kraft)
Subject: Re: US Soccer News
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford, CT
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 20:11:35 GMT

In articles, Andy, Chris, and Russ express concerns.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who was concerned about the article.  I
can't imagine the USSF trying to buy back Harkes, Ramos, Wegerle, Dooley,
Wynalda (if they'll take him :-), etc.  

I also can't imagine how badly the US would get the everliving boogers
beat out of them in 1994 without the foreign legion.  Yikes.

Dan
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Subject: RE: English non-league review
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 09:20:56 +0000







In article <BzB180.KE7@dcs.ed.ac.uk> archer@hsi.com (Garry Archer) writes
>In article <BzB180.KE7@dcs.ed.ac.uk> dwb@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Dave Baines) writes:
>>
>>Table for Beazer Midland at 28th Nov
>>                       P       W       D       L       F       A       Pts
>>Gresley Rovers         14      10      0       4       40      20      30
>>Evesham Utd            17      9       2       6       32      33      29
>>Redditch United        17      8       3       6       30      28      27
>>Nuneaton Borough       11      8       2       1       29      11      26
>>
>>Sutton Coldfield       9       7       2       0       27      14      23

>Still on top!  Amazing!  You're right, Nuneaton and Sutton Coldfield seem
>to be the chief contenders here.  Blimey, Sutton Coldfield only played nine?
>Amazing how that happens (you see this a lot at non-league level).
>        Cheers Dave!

The reason for Sutton Coldfields low number of matches played is almost 
certainly because they reached the 1st round proper of the FA cup this year,
where they got knocked out by Bolton Wanderers 2-1 at Burnden Park. Barry
Cowdrill an old Bolton favourite was playing for Sutton, he's they only player
I've seen who when running down the wing with the ball used to hit his chin
with his knees! His legs went that high. From all accounts the Bolton fans ( I
couldn't make it that day) gave Sutton a better reception than the whites.

Tom.