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From: MBEHR@JAGUAR.ESS.HARRIS.COM (Marc D. Behr)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Followup to "Why can't I halt my system ?"
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:28:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: mlb.1992Nov5.162814.25728
Organization: Harris Information Systems Division
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24


Thanks to all that responded to my inquiry as to wht I could not halt my 6410.
The proplem that I found had nothing to do with the keyswitch position
(everybodies guess) but rather that the LA120 does not send control characters
at baud rates higher than 2400. By lowering the rate or using a VT220 at 9600,
the problem was solved.

Marc


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From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Q: c-kermit installation com files?
Date: 7 Nov 92 06:11:00 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <00963354.6E578FA0.1461@niuhep.phys.niu.edu>, system@NIUHEP.PHYS.NIU.EDU writes:
>     I just brought over c kermit 5a (185) from kermit.columbia.edu
> and found a couple of references to using CKVMSI.COM and CKVKIT.COM for
> installing it, but I could not find such anywhere on Kermit.columbia.edu
> (this doesn't mean it isn't there...but I did try very hard) 
> any suggestions?  the docs say that Terry Kennedy  created those com files.
> Thanks in advance for any help.

  They'll be provided for the actual release. They exist now, but aren't in
their final state. In the meanwhile, you can simply start C-Kermit via a
foreign command definition:

$ wermit :== $disk:[directory]wermit.exe

  (change wermit to kermit if you prefer).

  If you really want the two files, you can get them from ftp.spc.edu in
the default anonymous directory. Please remember that they're a bit out-
of-date (they should work, though).

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381
From: sgccmjw@citec.oz.au (Mark Wilton 23313)
Subject: Re: BACKUP Question
Organization: CITEC
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:15:17 GMT

louis@BARRA.COM (Louis Dunne) writes:

>On Nov 3, 10:04pm, Mark Wilton 23313 wrote:
>	course your sysop loads it into the drive, and goes home for the evening.
 When you leave for the evening, if the backup comfile/whattever allocates
the tape drive then surely nobody can use it untill its dismounted
which could be done next morning when you arrive???


>	Then someone else *ANYONE* (unless you do something to stop them - see
>	below) mounts that tape device and starts reading data off the tape.
>	This is easily done (I've done it). You can go and pick up the
>	SYSUAF.DAT and start checking it with a PD password checker and
>	you're in business. I'm not advocating this of course, but I don't
>	think it's something that a lot of people are aware of.

Do you know where you can get password checkers??? Its something
we should do to now and again (Checking the suitability of passwords
not cracking them 8^] )

>	There are many steps you can do to prevent everyday users from using
>	your tape drive(s) and/or tapes. My suggestion would be a device
>	level ACL on the tape device(s), and change the device protection to
>	prevent world (and maybe group) access. Then grant that identifier
>	to the "authorized" users of the device. If there are a small number
>	of users who you want to restrict, then do the resverse. Put an ACL
>	on the device which prevents access by a set of users; then grant
>	that identifier to those users. I think this is the reasonably
>	easy "painfree" solulion.


This is a good idea!!
>	Remember, it's important to do something about this if it affects
>	your site. If you don't you'll get hit eventually. Esp if your
>	an educational institution with students who have a spare time
>	playing with this kind of thing!
In my day (2 years ago) Students didnt have time spare time etc!! 8^]



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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: zeus@vxcrna.cern.ch
Subject: Re: CDrom Drives
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:19:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.171029.2099@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, drumm@cnsvax.uwec.edu (Danny) writes:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm looking for some good cdrom drives we can hang off our infoserver.
> I would appreciate learning about 3rd party cd drives.

With the cost of CD ROM drives ($1000 per 600Mb) and the cost of SCSI disk
($1000 per 1Mb in bulk), isn't the concept of the info-server - ie 1 drive
per disk starting to get a little dated?

The guys trying to sell CD jukeboxes better hurry up and drop the
prices to a resonable level - ie the cost of a normal jukebox, not
the cost of hiring Pink Floyd for a live performance. Otherwise
they are going to find the SCSI disk people flogging 10-20 Gig
disks in the $3000 odd bracket that remove the need for their
system before they ever start selling in bulk.

Phill Hallam-Baker
From: simons/G=Colin/I=CB/S=Sewell/O=H.A.Simons.Ltd/OU=CORP@mhs.attmail.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: ACL Problem
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:35:31 GMT
Organization: The Internet


	the ace:

	(IDENTIFIER=HNET_MGR,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,
		ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE+CONTROL)

	on the MAIL.DIR file only specifies the acl that should be placed
	on files created in the directory; it neither grants nor denies
	access to the directory itself.

	add another ACE to the directory, identical to the first,
	but leave off the OPTIONS=DEFAULT, and it should work fine.

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu (Doug Mohney)
Subject: Re: Fiber Optic Support
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 19:34:14 GMT
Organization: Computer Aided Design Lab, U. of Maryland College Park
Reply-To: sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu

In article <01GQZFSK3B9S00081V@DUCVAX.AUBURN.EDU>, JOHNNY@DUCVAX.AUBURN.EDU writes:
>
>	Our company has 5 manufacturing plants with fiber-based LANs.
>    Recently, a careless employee at one of these locations broke one
>    of the fibers and our only recourse was to contract out for the
>    repair which ended up taking nearly a week to accomplish. This has
>    prompted the discussion of whether we should try to handle this type
>    of thing next time. My question then is: Does anyone out there do
>    their own fiber termination, repair, etc.? If so, I'd like to hear
>    details about training, equipment costs, and whatever else might
>    be involved. Thanks for your help.

The best suggesting I've heard is to run redudant pairs/lengths along different
paths, since the glass is (relatively) cheap.

                 Play in the intelluctual sandbox of Usenet 

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From: sasjzs@falcon.unx.sas.com (Joseph Slater)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: sys$hiber/sys$wake problems?
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:30:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: unx.BxIrqM.2pF
Reply-To: sasjzs@vms.sas.com
Organization: Or lack thereof
Originator: sasjzs@falcon.unx.sas.com


In article <1992Nov10.180054.23127@fripp.ri.cadre.com>,
 rj@cadre.com (Rob deFriesse) writes:
|>
|>    If one or more wakeup requests are issued for the process while it is not
|>    hibernating, the next hibernate call returns immediately;  that is, the
|>    process does not hibernate.  ...
|>
|>This is, in fact, the correct behavior for a semaphore.  If it doesn't work
|>this way, your process could block indefinately.
|>
Hi Rob,
   And all others that responded via e-mail. You are correct, 
however we aren't the ones calling sys$wake. After leaving
sys$hiber the next-to-last time, the bit pcb$v_wakepen bit is
clear. The next time we start to enter sys$hiber it is set and
we don't call sys$wake anywhere in between. (This is what 
upsets us as we hope to set up things before calling sys$wake, 
and when we don't we exit from hiber in an unknown state). I
suspect (thanks Matt) the PPL$ runtime library as this scheme 
has worked successfully for many years and PPL is the only new 
variable in the scheme. My next task is to try to trap calls 
to sys$wake from the main and sharable images. Any ideas on 
doing this? I may have a hard time convicing our system manager 
to let me patch the system service vectors. Read that as slim to none. 

Joe Slater
sasjzs@vms.sas.com
Mine opinion is just that.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: spowell@trentu.ca (Stefan Powell)
Subject: EVE key assignments to move back and forth by word?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Trent University Computer Services Department
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:25:00 GMT

Is there a quick and easy way to assign the following commands to a keys in TPU
without calling another command file. 

forward        
move by word     {these two commands I want to assign to KEYPAD(103) }


reverse
move by word
forward          {these three commands I want to assign to KEYPAD(104) }

________________________________________________________________________________
                                              Stefan Powell - SPowell@TrentU.CA
From: byron@YOGI.HSC.UCALGARY.CA (Byron Draudson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Postscript to HP conversion?
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:13:29 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Is there any VMS PD software that will convert Postscript to an HP bitmap or
HP GL?  Thanks in advance for any pointers in the right direction.

:byron (byron@yogi.hsc.ucalgary.ca)

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: olson@dstl86.gsfc.nasa.gov (Paul Olson)
Subject: Re: ACL Problem
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Mission Operations and Data Systems
Date: 10 Nov 1992 08:11 EST  

In article <00963598.9E30D560.15229@shrsys.hslc.org>, simon@SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG (Alan Simon) writes...
>I am trying to allow non-privileged users to edit a mail distribution list
>file.  I created an identifier called HNET_MGR, and granted this identifier to 
>the appropriate users.  These users are in the uic group [DRA,XXX].  I created 
>ACLs for both the mail distribution list file (ILLTF.DIS) and the directory in 
>which the mail distribution list file is located (SYS$USER0:[MAIL]).  Here is 
>the output from DIR/FULL:
> 
>Directory SYS$USER0:[MAIL]
> 
>ILLTF.DIS;4                   File ID:  (21723,2,0)
>Size:            1/3          Owner:    [DRA,ANONYMOUS]
>File protection:    System:RWED, Owner:RWED, Group:RE, World:RE
>Access Cntrl List:  (IDENTIFIER=HNET_MGR,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE+
>                    CONTROL)
>
>Directory SYS$USER0:[000000]
> 
>MAIL.DIR;1                    File ID:  (808,1,0)
>Size:            3/3          Owner:    [DRA,ANONYMOUS]
>File protection:    System:RWE, Owner:RWE, Group:RE, World:RE
>Access Cntrl List:  (IDENTIFIER=HNET_MGR,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+
>                    EXECUTE+DELETE+CONTROL)
> 
>When these users try to modify ILLTF.DIS using EDIT/TPU, these users can read
>the file, but get the following EVE error messages when trying to save the file
>after editing:
> 
>	Error opening SYS$USER0:[MAIL]ILLTF.DIS;4 as output
>	Insufficient privilege or file protection violation
> 
>With regular system privileges, I can read and write the file with no problem.
> 
>What am I missing?
> 

There is another ACL you need to add to MAIL.DIR.  It is:

	(IDENT=HNET_MGR,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+CONTROL)

The OPTION=DEFAULT ACE is only applicable to files created in the MAIL.DIR
directory, not the directory file itself.  Also, if I remember correctly, the
new ACE must be placed above the one you've already defined.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: parris@star.enet.dec.com (Keith B. Parris)
Subject: Re: VMS 5.5-1 / MIVc, satellite prevents the boot hos
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:31:34 GMT


In article <1992Nov5.124805.15667@dxcern.cern.ch>,
clusmgr@vscn16.nohost.nodomain () writes about a satellite node hanging when
the boot node is rebooted:
>The only oddity with this cluster is that the satellite (VSOPS) is not in the
>same DECNET area as the 2 other nodes, but I found nodo documentation which
>forbids such a configuration.
>Anyway, this morning we decide to get away of this peculiarity! So, using
>CLUSTER_CONFIG, I removed the satellite, then added it with the new DECNET 
>number. Unfortunately, the satellite did not reboot after its reintroduction 
>in the cluster.
>The boot failed with "No connection to disk server VXCRNA", just after
>displaying the good line "System loaded from node VXCRNA".
>We are more and more in the dark, and any suggestion will be very well
>appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Having a satellite in a different DECnet area is permitted.

When you change the DECnet address for a node, the SCS System ID gets changed
at the same time.  Cluster nodes which are still up see a new node trying to
join, with the same SCS node name but a different SCS System ID than before,
and refuse to have anything to do with it.  Rebooting the existing nodes will
clear their knowledge of the old SCSNODE/SCSSYSTEMID combination, and allow the
satellite to join the cluster.
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    Digital gets the credit for any actual facts which happen to appear here.
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From: JOHNNY@DUCVAX.AUBURN.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Fiber Optic Support
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:56:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


	Our company has 5 manufacturing plants with fiber-based LANs.
    Recently, a careless employee at one of these locations broke one
    of the fibers and our only recourse was to contract out for the
    repair which ended up taking nearly a week to accomplish. This has
    prompted the discussion of whether we should try to handle this type
    of thing next time. My question then is: Does anyone out there do
    their own fiber termination, repair, etc.? If so, I'd like to hear
    details about training, equipment costs, and whatever else might
    be involved. Thanks for your help.


				Johnny Hendricks

				Johnny@Ducvax.auburn.edu
From: pso@phobos.as.utexas.edu (P Samuel Odoms)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: panic : memory corrupted ...
Date: 10 Nov 92 10:12:25 GMT
Reply-To: pso@phobos.as.utexas.edu
Organization: McDonald Observatory - University of Texas
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4

In the past two nights, we have gotten the message

	Panic : memory corrupted in process ...

or something very close to that.  It would occur when the observing program
would hang in a repetitive background process (controlled by a phase table
driven routine called by a sys$setimr at semiregular intervals).  If the
observer attempted to gracefully exit the program (to save data, etc) with
the usual EXIT command, the program would immediately crash, remove all 
workstation windows, expand the startup window from its iconned state
and print the panic message.  I also remember seeing this (context unremembered)
from about a year and a half ago but it only happened once, then.

Our configuration is:
	Vaxstation 3100, 16MB memory.
	VMS 5.2
	VWS 4.0 (I think)

This program as it now stands was originally developed and linked on a 
Vaxstation 2000 running VMS 5.5 but the software was ported to a Vaxstation II
running VMS 5.2 and recompiled/relinked.

Thanks for any and every reply,

Sam Odoms (pso@phobos.as.utexas.edu, pso@astro.as.utexas.edu)
          (128.83.129.75           , 128.83.129.40          ) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: sysgaertner@cygnus.frm.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de (M. Gaertner, FRM, TH Darmstadt, Germany)
Subject: RE: Problems booting 8600 under VMS5.5-1
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:24:34 GMT
Reply-To: sysgaertner@cygnus.frm.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de
Organization: Fachbereichsrechner Maschinenbau, TH Darmstadt, Germany

Thanks to everybody who replyed to our problem with booting a 8600 into
a cluster.
Nearly everybody said look for CI-revision level.
Well, sure we did that. It's not the latest (I guess latest >15!) but
well enough (12) to do what we want. We're curently looking for a well running
13-version.
We know that because out of nothing (well quite) the system booted fine.
Quite out of nothing, since we pulled out one of the two MASSBUS-connector
cables. Might be the problem, might not be, because we had at least ONE
failure with these cables not attached.
Ok, since the system is up now and survived one reboot...
we're happy with it.
Thanks again.

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      SYSGAERTNER@CYGNUS.FRM.MASCHINENBAU.TH-DARMSTADT.DE
      Phone: Germany, (0)6151/16 5145
From: jerry@marin.uucp (Jerry C. Hudgins)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Kermit packet size
Date: 8 Nov 92 04:28:52 GMT
Organization: Private UUCP Node
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Nov7.155642.1192@galaxy.gov.bc.ca> ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts) writes:
> In article <01GQVM6KPFZ48WW1MS@scorva>, CAPTANSKI33@SNYCORVA.BITNET (CHRIS TANSKI) writes:
> > Anyone know how to change the pakcet size kermit sends from 84 to
> > 9000? My comm. program receives that fast so it would be nice if this
> > kermit server would send it that fast. Please reply directly.
> 
> It depends on the version of Kermit you are using.  There are 2 different VMS
> flavours, each of which has production and test versions.
> 
> Kermit-32
> 	The latest *production* version available from Columbia is 3.3.126. 
> This does not support long packets.  You can pull off a test version that does. 
> I believe the latest test is T3.4.018.

This is incorrect.  Kermit-32 has supported long packets (up to 1000 bytes)
for several versions.  It doesn't support sliding windows, though.

As you pointed out, the upcoming C-Kermit 5A will be preferable, especially
since it supports attribute packets (like Kermit-11!).
 
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From: whitley@dallas.sil.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.misc,vmsnet.sysmgt
Subject: non-ansi setup module?
Date: 10 Nov 92 10:06:43 CST
Organization: Summer Institute of Linguistics, Dallas Center

We are attempting to download a font to an Epson printer connected to a
Decserver 700.  The print symbiont (LATMaster) attempts to evaluate the
font file.  If we do print/passall, all is fine.  We can't use the usual
trick of wrapping <DCS> <ST> around the setup module to make the
symbiont ignore it because it contains a <DCS> <ST> within it. 

Rick Whitley  - Whitley@a1.dallas.sil.org
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Bound volume sets: are they a bad idea?
Date: 11 Nov 1992 18:35:32 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Nov10.124211.6220@slcs.slb.com>, brydon@asl.slb.com (Harvey Brydon (918)250-4312) writes:
>Also, keep in mind that
>you are taking 2 'large' volumes and making them into one.  This effectively
>increases the size of the cluster factor.  If it is 4 on one of these disks,
>it will be 8 on the volume set (Same with a stripe set, too).

This doesn't make sense to me.  The limits on the cluster factor are related to
the size of the datatype needed to index into the storage bitmap on the volume.
Since each volume in a volume set has its own storage bitmap (and for that
matter, since each volume in the set is initialized independently), I don't see
how using a volume set affects the cluster factor at all).  Could you elucidate?
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: billb@crpmks.uucp (Bill Bochnik (Info Systems))
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: SET COMMAND UTILITY
Reply-To: billb@crpmks.UUCP (Bill Bochnik (Info Systems))
Organization: Ciba-Geigy Corporation
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:09:27 GMT
Keywords: VMS 5.1, DCLTABLES.EXE, MicroVAX 3200, VMSINSTAL

In article <BxCnK7.KE1@didymus.rmi.de> andreas@didymus.rmi.de (Andreas Fassl) writes:
>Hi,
>
>any pointers/solutions to the following problem?
>
>Software product successfully installs via VMSINSTAL, runs fine.
>After logout all new command definitions are gone.
>A dump of the file DCLTABLES.EXE shows a correct installation.
>Setting the command files via SET COMMAND directly will make
>the commands available, a definition via
>SET COMMAND/TABLE=DCL.../OUT=DCL.. command NOT.
>What other locations are possible, how can I determine the other
>command tables. A look in authorize gives no hint.
>

Check which version of dcltables is INSTALLED in memory.  Also watch out for 
copies in SYS$SPECIFIC rather than SYS$COMMON for different nodes in a 
cluster.
-- 
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Systems Analyst 		|	and Costello world.
Ciba-Geigy Corporation		| Signed and sealed, they deliver oblivion.
philabs!crpmks!billb		| It's worse than that, he's dead Jim.