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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: weird film->video encoding
Keywords: Japanese Legend combined frames unusual
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:28:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: vidiot.3232
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Apr3.062915.6444@wam.umd.edu> dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge) writes:
<I recently got my hands on a copy of the Japanese release of "Legend", and
<when I used the still-field function on my 3080 I came across something
<rather unusual...
<
<It appears that instead of the "normal" 3-2 pulldown, this transfer uses
<a method where adjacent film frames are sometimes "combined" in a single
<video field, the result being that you have a double-exposure effect in
<certain fields.
<
<The effect doesn't appear to be consistent, either (no readily identifiable
<pattern). It seems to "fade in" and "fade out", such that some frames only
<have a "hint" of an adjacent frame while others are full double exposures.
<
<Weird.

Not really.  Sounds like noise reduction was turned on.  Noise reduction
involves averaging adjacent fields, resulting in an after image.

MB
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From: 0004809744@MCIMAIL.COM (Jim Millick)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: The Perfect Vision #13
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:26:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


  For those of you who have been asking, I just got my advance copy of
TPV #13.  Unfortunately, my in-depth interview with Jim Cameron didn't
make it, it will have to wait until #14, which Kevin swears will be out
by SCES, the last week in May.  I sure hope so, but TPVs only six weeks
apart, this I gotta see...

  No word on email for TAS/TPV yet, (sorry Pete), they are swamped.  In
case you are interested (this isn't a shameless plug, really) they are
running subscription specials until the end of May.  $22/yr. for TPV,
$46/yr. for TAS.  Those are very good deals, you can take them up on it
via 800 825-0061/800-222-3201 or 516 676-2830 (Intl.)

  Subscription copies shouldn't be too far behind, probably by the end of 
the week.

Jim Millick
Contributing Writer
The Perfect Vision/The Abso!ute Sound
4861036@mcimail.com
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Re: Laser disc defect question
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 18:34:54 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.141033.794@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes:
>I looked at Bob Nilands article number 17 on laser disc defects, but I'm still
>not sure if what I'm seeing in my brand new copy of the letterboxed Return
>of the Jedi is a disc defect or something else.  I was scanning through it
>to see if it was ok and most of the disc is immaculate, but I did find one
>place where several small white horizontal lines appear and scroll up the
>screen.  It lasts about one second or so and then dissapears.  Article 17
>says that scrolling white lines on CLV discs may indicate a disc defect, but
>then it also says that most scrolling lines are the result of debris on the
>disc that can be removed.  I don't see anything on the disc itself.  I should
>point out that the problem is not horrible, but it is an annoyance to find
>that a brand new disc may have a defect.  How commonly do these white line
>defects occur on laser discs?  Should I expect to see one or two such
>problems on every disc I buy?  Should I return the disc (i.e. if I do can
>I expect to get one in return that does not have any visible defects?)

I see such defects rarely and most often on new discs it is dirt.  Be
sure to hold the disc at different angles in the light -it's often hard
to see.  And frequently the "dirt" is translucent like a small bit of
plastic shaving.  Sometimes the "dirt" is quite adhered to the disc and
takes a vigorous swipe with kleenex and isopropyl alcohol to remove.
And remember to look at the physical side opposite the label side where
you are having trouble. 

If none of the above works, you have a true pressing defect and it is
most likely only on the disc you have.  A replacement should cure the
problem.  Sometimes I don't worry about small defects like you have
described if it will be a hassle and cost $$ to return the disc.

-- 
BILL CRUCE, NE OHIO COLL OF MEDICINE----INTERNET: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu 
        Neurobiology Dept., P.O. Box 95, Rootstown, OH 44272
          "The only reason for time is so that everything
                     doesn't happen at once."
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: bam@rudedog.asd.sgi.com (Brian McClendon)
Subject: Re: Future HDTV Digiital VCRs?
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 02:29:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.230905.17591@tvnews.tv.tek.com> bill@thd.tv.tek.com (William K. McFadden) writes:
>In article <1992Apr16.025049.10023@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> an314@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Timothy Golobic) writes:
>>
>>In a previous article, mce@tc.fluke.COM (Brian McElhinney) says:
>>
>>>km@mathcs.emory.edu (Ken Mandelberg) writes:
>>>
>>>>I haven't seen much discussion of this. Presuming that one of the
>>>>digital HDTV systems now being tested prevails, what is the expectation
>>>>for future high end consumer VCRs?
>>>
>>>Not much in the near future.  All near-term commercial HDTV plans are
>>>for broadcast.  I would expect fiber optic cables to be next, and any
>>>kind of consumer playback/recording medium to be last.  The reason is
>>>that digital HDTV, with video compression, still has a bandwidth on
>>>the order of 20 Mbit/second!  It will be difficult to come up with a
>>>cheap, consumer, recording medium that stores 9000 Mbytes per hour.
>>>(And consider the number of hours in a typical video collection!)
>>
>>as we discussed in my telecom class last week, an hdtv vcr would
>>run about $40,000, and have little storage capability.
Just to counter this:  This week's EE Times has an article about
a Toshiba-GI collaboration to produce a consumer HDTV digital VCR
using the 8mm form factor!  The article mentioned that this
was a _very_ surprising announcement.  It also said it would
be shown at NAB.  I was there, but didn't know to look for it... o well.


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From: mikelis@dunway.enet.dec.com (James Mikelis)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: A good word for SMILE PHOTO
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:57:34 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <venable.16@faculty.coe.wvu.wvnet.edu>, venable@faculty.coe.wvu.wvnet.edu (WALLACE VENABLE) writes...
> 
>             On the eighth day the VCR is here.  (You don't think I pay 
>        for UPS Blue Label, do you?)  Factory sealed box, U.S. warrenty.  
>        $459 plus $29 shipping.  I'm $21 ahead of Oregon.  I'm happy.
>             If you are going to play the price game, learn how, and 
>        you'll be happier.  The order specialist probably has to sell at 
>        least $5000 worth of goodies an hour to make a good living, and 2 
>        calls out of three are probably "no sale."  He _has_ to work 
>        quickly.
>             _CLEAR_POLITE_CONCISE_communications help in many places.  

Price is not the only concern when dealing mailorder.  A true test of
a mail order firm is how well they respond to your problems.  The minimal
savings you experience can be eaten many-fold when you factor the
cost of return/legal/postal/phone fees and general aggrevation if a problem
arises.  

/james
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: jeff@fps.com (My login)
Subject: Panasonic Bar Code Reader
Organization: Cray Research Inc., San Diego CA, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:22:42 GMT

--standard disclaimer of ignorance--FAQ-sorry-never again-

When I bought my VCR several years back, it had this really neat 
gimmick I paid a little extra for -- a bar code reader.  At the time
the salesman promised that "soon", the TV guides would publish little
barcodes alongside the listings.......  **NOT**.

My question is: does anybody know what the underlying code is?  It
isn't UPC (not long enough).  I have tried a program which generates a 
couple of other formats, but if it uses one of these, the encoding
isn't obvious.  If the truth be told, if it doesn't use one of these,
it isn't obvious either.

In the absense of direct information, a number at Panasonic where
someone might *KNOW*? 
-- 
Jeffrey P. Anderson	KD6GMJ		jpa@fps.com     
Cray Research Superservers, Inc		San Diego, CA

My opinions do not necessarily reflect those of my employer.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: rjc@devo.unify.com (Ronald Cole)
Subject: Re: Columbia LD Club
Organization: Unify Corporation, Sacramento, California
	<1992Apr11.005918.2260@qiclab.scn.rain.com>
Date: 12 Apr 92 14:29:34

In article <1992Apr11.005918.2260@qiclab.scn.rain.com> drazil@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Devin Ben-Hur) writes:
   I order from them over the phone all the time.  In fact, I've never
   used the reply card.  I always just check NoSelection and return it
   immediately, then call them up when I want to order a disk.

Call them and have them put you on "positive" response.  You still get the
card and glossies every month, you just don't have to waste a stamp to
tell them you don't want the selection of the month.

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From: dondd@hpmwtd.HP.COM (Don Dillon)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:43:13 GMT
Subject: Re: RDS ?
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (NMD MTA MWTD). - Santa Rosa, Ca.
Newsgroups: rec.video



	RDS?  yeah, thats the stuff that Spock took back in the 60's, at
least thats what Kirk said.  Huh? That was LDS?  never mind.


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From: sridhar@lccinc.UUCP (Sridhar Ramachandran)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Opinions - stereo VCRs.
Keywords: vcr, stereo, mts
Date: 10 Apr 92 12:44:27 GMT
Organization: LCC Inc., Arlington VA


Beg pardon if this is an FAQ.

I am soliciting opinions about the following Hi-Fi [ stereo ] VCRs:

	Toshiba M-647
	Panasonic	PV-4160
	Sony 	SLV-585 && SLV-585HF
	JVC		HRD-940U

All of them pretty much have similar features, except for the JVC which
comes with a jog/shuttle switch [the others don't].

I am interested in things like picture quality, special 
effects modes [if any], audio quality and how they would 
integrate with an existing Surround Sound setup.
If there are higher [and better] models in these brand names,
I'd appreciate any information on them too.

Please e-mail me if you think that this would not be of 
general interest. 

If this a FAQ, can one please point me to the FAQ archives?

Thanks in advance.

Sridhar.

--

Sridhar Ramachandran
uunet!lccinc!sridhar (OR) uunet!hallofjustice!sridhar

			LCC, Inc., 
			Arlington, Virginia.
			703-516-7679
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: dyang@latour.bellcore.com (Danny Yang)
Subject:  TEST, please ignore
Organization: Morristown Research and Engineering
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 14:47:03 GMT


-- 
Kun-Min Yang
Bellcore, MRE2A260
(908)829-4417

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan)
Subject: Re: Laser disc defect question
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:20:53 GMT


In article <1992Apr8.141033.794@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov
(Stephen Jonke) asks about a possible laserdisc defect.

>I did find one
>place where several small white horizontal lines appear and scroll up the
>screen.  It lasts about one second or so and then dissapears.  Article 17
>says that scrolling white lines on CLV discs may indicate a disc defect, but
>then it also says that most scrolling lines are the result of debris on the
>disc that can be removed.  I don't see anything on the disc itself.  I should
>point out that the problem is not horrible, but it is an annoyance to find
>that a brand new disc may have a defect.  How commonly do these white line
>defects occur on laser discs?  Should I expect to see one or two such
>problems on every disc I buy?  Should I return the disc (i.e. if I do can
>I expect to get one in return that does not have any visible defects?)

I recently had my first experience (out of perhaps 20 or so purchased
and rented LD titles) of a defective disc. Most discs are completely
lacking in anything like what you describe, but my first copy of the CAV
Fantasia boxed set had a similar defect on one side (since it's CAV, the
line remained stationary rather than scrolling). I cleaned all dust off
the disc (and yes, I cleaned the correct side ;-) and looked for any
signs of scratches or other damage. The disc looked perfect to the naked
eye, but the laser still saw those darned white lines. There were a
couple of instances which lasted a little over a second each, and I
figured that since it was a $100 disc, I might as well have a PERFECT
one. So I took it back and exchanged it. The replacement has no
noticeable defects. None of the other discs I've rented or purchased
have ever shown anything like that problem, so I don't think it's
particularly common, nor do I think it should be tolerated, especially
in an expensive title like the Star Wars movies. Were I in your
position, I would take it back and get a different disc.


Newsgroups: rec.video
From: careyk@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Carey Kinoshita)
Subject: Re: Macrovision dying?
Organization: University of Hawaii
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 07:35:09 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.144341.11985@tc.fluke.COM> strong@tc.fluke.COM (Norm Strong) writes:
>Is Macrovision becoming less popular?  The last 8 tapes I rented had
>none, and these were recent releases, the type you would expect to have
>Macrovision.  Disney tapes still seem to have it, and certain Fox
>releases.  But, by and large, it seems to be a decreasing problem.  
>-- 

Macrovision is still being used on some major movies releases on
video tape and it is really annoying since the color on my monitor 
craps out everytime the Macrovision takes effect.  Especially, on the
newest Warner Brother's movie release which was "Other People's Money".
Also, "Don't Tell Mom The Baby Sitter's Dead" (this one used some   
new version of MacroVision which really makes things look bad),
Rocketeer, and Switch.
From: garyj@pyrtech.pyramid.com (Gary Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: widescreen Terminator 2 laser disk
Keywords: widescreen Terminator 2 LD
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:32:09 GMT
Distribution: usa


This last weekend, after my purchase of a Pioneer 980 LD player and the 
widescreen edition of"Terminator 2", I invited a friend over to do some
comparisons. 

He brought over his Panasonic LX-200 with about 20 disks. One of them was
the pan & scan version of T2. We hooked up both players to my system, 
synced up the two T2s and away we went. I had always favored the pan & 
scan versions over letterbox, but I had been told that the widescreen
versions "Would grow on you". In comparing the two versions, I found a 
disapointing charactistic. On the widescreen version, some of the top 
and much of the bottom had been cut!. I was *very* surprised to discover 
this. I had assumed that because of the widescreen format, *all* of the 
picture would be there. It wasn't. One noticable scene was when John Connor 
was hacking on the automatic teller to make a widthdrawl. On the P&S version,
It was readily apparent that the computer he was using was an ATARI. My
letterboxed version had this masked off! There was certainly room there
since the picture only took up about 60% at most. 


Is this only on the T2 edition?

Is this the norm with widescreen editions? 

If it is, what is the appeal of them?

Thanks,
Gary Johnson


P.S. The 980 was a refurb. It handled a scene that my friend's Panasonic
     distorted badly on.
From: surge@en.ecn.purdue.edu (PhD-in-Training)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: mail order address & tel
Keywords: mail order
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:09:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

For those of you that asked:

	Electronic Wholesalers
	1166 Hamburg Turnpike
	Wayne, NJ   ?????

	(800)-444-6300        M-F 9-9, Sat 9-6, Sun closed
	(201) 633-1476 (fax)


Good luck,
Surge
From: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: TR81 shortcomings
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:10:36 GMT
Reply-To: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

In rec.video, killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen) writes:
>Now someone might point out gee you need an RM-95, RM-155, and RME-300 to get
>everything.  Yes but when you invest in Control-L stuff you keep your
>investment everytime you trade up.

Sorry to bourst the bubble here, but Sony is now implementing RC-TC
(rewritable consumer time code) on its camcorders.  The CCD-F801 is
the first to have it.  The feature will probably permeate the line.
The scheme has also been called Precision-L because it offers frame-accurate
editing, whereas control-L is only accurate to +/- one second.  So
control-L stuff may become dated.
   /|/| /||)|/  /~_/\| |\|)[~|)/~_  |   Everyone's entitled to MY opinion.
  / | |/~||\|\  \_/\/|_|/|)[_|\\_/  |      goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil
========Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Albert Einstein=======
From: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Sony TR-81 may not be the best choice.  Other options.
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:09:55 GMT
Reply-To: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

In rec.video, pradeep@watson.ibm.com (Pradeep Dubey) writes:
>TR81 for $900 with case, battery, tripod.

The tripods included with package deals are ususally a waste.  Better
off buying just the camera mail order, then selecting a tripod locally.
Video is really sticky for good tripods, as the cheap ones give jerky
movements and shaky images.

>I found RICOH-88H a MUCH BETTER buy.  First of all,
>to my surprise, except the lens, this is electronically
>identical to TR81.  In fact, it also has the same patent
>number at the back.  Ricoh being a camera manufacturer
>provides you with a superior lens.  You can clearly see the
>difference in picture quality on the screen

Really?  Did you compare the Ricoh clone against a Sony TR-81?  I'll
bet the lenses on these two are identical.

>The best
>part of RICOH is that for the same price you also get
>an extended warranty, valid for parts and labour for 6 YEARS.
>It is almost impossible to beat this.  Sony only gives 1 or 2
>years warranty. 

Other things being equal, that extra coverage is nice.  But if the Ricoh
breaks, where do you have to send it for repairs?   It may be an advantage
to have the Sony if there is a Sony service center near where you live.

>Secondly, I feel Hi-8 is not very important to me.  I think you need
>a TV that can take the special video-connector to be able to see
>the difference in picture quality.
>So I am settling for plain 8mm.

There is a visible difference between hi8 and reg 8 on any TV.  True,
a y-c compatible monitor with 400 line horiz. resolution is needed to
see all the benefit.  The BIG advantage of hi8 (or SVHS) is that is
much better for editing and dubbing.  The copy will look as ggod as
an original shot on VHS or 8mm.

>Also, if you are willing to settle for 6x zoom camera and buy a
>telephoto (1.5x) lens, you can get 9x zoom at a much cheaper price.

The added lens bit is a fallacy.  With the auxiliary lens on, the zoom
ratio is STILL THE SAME; settings are just changed by the factor of
the accessory.  Optical quality is seriously reduced, and some tele
extenders vignet the corners of the image, giving you a circle in the
center.  Better try before buy.

When considering the cost of the basic camera plus these add-on lenses,
to me it would make a helluva lot more sense to get the TR-81 (or clone)
and have a learer, sharper image, with better zoom range.

   /|/| /||)|/  /~_/\| |\|)[~|)/~_  |   Everyone's entitled to MY opinion.
  / | |/~||\|\  \_/\/|_|/|)[_|\\_/  |      goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil
========Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Albert Einstein=======
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: kaplan@unamas.esd.sgi.com (Larry Kaplan)
Subject: Re: Laser Disc Clubs?
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 17:21:02 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.150013.946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan) writes:
|> I beg to differ. Every CHLDC ad I have seen to date, including those in
|> current issues of magazines such as Video and Video Shopper, specify the
|> "2 LDs in 1 year" deal. Not only that, but I called CHLDC directly, and
|> they sent me an application form which also specifies 2 LD/1 year.

Of course, CHLDC sent me a "pre-approved" membership along with an
embossed plastic credit-card (used for ???) and the usual 800 number
to call to order my initial three disks. The only catch?? I need
to order 3 (THREE) disks over the next two years. What a deal!!


-- 
  Larry Kaplan  (415)335-1584 Silicon Graphics, Mtn View, CA 94039 USA
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: amp@cbnews.cb.att.com (anit.patel)
Subject: camcorder recommendations
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:54:33 GMT


Need recommendations for 8mm camcorder.  Sony TR 81 has been favorite of
the net land.  Any other choices with the following preferences:

	Price Range: $800-$1200
	Weight: with in 2 pound	
	Features: low lux, nice editing features, good picture quality,
		remote control, stereo, etc.

I will appreciate information on likes, dislikes, useful features. Also would
appreciate information a few good mail order places.  Intended use would be
recreational and family videography.

Anit Patel
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: pt@cs.brown.edu (Peter Tan)
Subject: Yamaha DSP-A1000 and DSP-A700 comments wanted.
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Brown University
Distribution: rec.video
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 04:43:23 GMT


I am posting this on behaps of a friend.  Please direct any email
reply to:  (a post reply is also fine.)
  st403383@brownvm.brown.edu  (Thai Pham)

Could anyone tell me if there are any differences in the digital
signal processing of the dsp-a1000 and dsp-a700?  

Also , could owners of the dsp-a1000 and dsp-a700 give me their impression of
these equipments?  i.e. what did you like about it, what annoys you?
What did you think of the acoustic simulations? etc...

I will summarize the replies if there are interests.

-Thanks

Thai (st403383@brownvm.brown.edu)
From: nqiy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Need Disney Home Video address...
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:10:44 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University


If you have the mailing address (snail mail), could you please e-mail it to me.
I bought the Fantasia CAV and sent in that survey they included in the package.
I haven't received the free laserdisc yet. Thanks.

-Brian Soriano

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: kev@osf.org (Kevin Till)
Subject: Re: 27" Sony XBR50 for sale
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:49:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.144808.1@acad3.alaska.edu>, fsrhd@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
|> 
|> 
|> 	I have a Sony KV27XBR50 27" trinitron monitor with subwoofer for
|> sale.  I am asking $650 plus shipping.  Interested parties please e-mail.
|> 
|> -- 
|> Bob Devine
|> fshrd@acad3.alaska.edu

	I wonder how much the shipping will cost from *Alaska* to Boston. ;-)
-- 
Kevin T. Till	
System Engineering
Open Software Foundation