HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: "The New Statesman" - How many series?
Date: 5 Sep 92 15:16:28 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <feldman.715592188@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> feldman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Todd J. Feldman) writes:
>
>Does anyone know how many series of "The New Statesman" there are?
>
>I know there are at least three, maybe 4.
>
>Don't 3 of them end with B'stard getting hanged, shot, and stranded in 
>Siberia?
>
>Still, I seem to think there was a 4th.

There is a new series of 'The New Statesman' in the forthcoming bits in the
current Radio Times.

B'stard rides again ....

Also more 'Bottom' for Rik Mayall fans ....


Neil
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
From: mmcalees@cs16.UVic.CA (Michael McAleese (One of 'Those Dudes'))
Subject: Re: New Stuff on BBC in the new season
Organization: The Canadian Conspiracy
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 23:12:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.183705.25638@pixel.kodak.com> dj@ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones) writes:
>There's a dark secret here: many of those who have come up via SNL and
>shows of that ilk are in fact Canadians.  This despite a thriving
>comedy club circuit in the US.  Something cultural, I guess. 

  Not exactly.  This is all part of "The Canadian Conspiracy", a concerted
effort by a secret Canadian strike force set up by Prime Minister Lester
Pearson and headed by Lorne Greene.  The ultimate goal is to completely
"Canadianize" the American cultural identity.
  The source I site for this is a documentary somehow released on the CBC
before the security forces could stop it, entitled "The Canadian Conspiracy"
(catchy title, eh?) where it reveals the undeclared state of war that has
existed since American president Lyndon Johnson, on a state visit to Canada,
made a disparaging comment about our weather.  Pearson called in Lorne 
Greene and together they launched a highly successful effort to have 
Canadian actors and comedians infiltrate the US market.  The beauty of the
plan is that Americans seldom if ever notice that their actors are Canadian,
deciding that anyone who moves to Hollywood must be an American.  John
Candy (who is reputed to be Lorne Greene's right hand man) groomed agent
Myers (codename "Wayne") to completely supplant the American youth's speech
habits to a more Canadian tone.  A tell-tale giveaway to the brainwashing
efforts is in the movie "Wayne's World", where Wayne and Garth play street
hockey like every other Canadian youth.  How long until inner-city American
youngsters are tossing aside the basketball and suiting up for a rousing
game of street hockey, the strident call of "Car!" echoing out over streets
that used to resound to the swish of the hoop?

-- 
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  "Man can believe the impossible, but never the improbable." - Oscar Wilde
From: dj@ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Waynes World...
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:54:54 GMT
Organization: :noitazinagrO

In article <sbradley.03ri@outb.wimsey.bc.ca> sbradley@outb.wimsey.bc.ca (Steve Bradley) writes:
>Does anyone out there think the same as I, that Waynes World is a rip off
>of Bob and Doug Macanzie, on SCTV, (Canadian programme).
>
>--- Via UCI v1.02 (C-Net Amiga)
>

NOT!!!
(sorry, couldn't resist)

Bob & Doug's "Great White North" feature of SCTV was a satirical sop to
the "Canadian content" rules imposed on broadcasters north of the
border.  "Bob & Doug", aka Dave Thomas and Rick Moranis, were
stereotypical "beer smokes & hockey, ey!" blue-collar Canadian
characters.  While you can find parallels in the Wayne's World
characters you can hardly call it a rip-off.

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From: Amiga@cup.portal.com (Philip Barry Kirschner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk,rec.arts.startrek
Subject: Re: Details on the fate of ST:TNG in the UK
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 14:42:46 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <65752@cup.portal.com> <1992Sep13.193734.21295@cs.hw.ac.uk>

Your right! PAtrick Stewart is (brit)!!!
From: rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk (Richard Lloyd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Teletext in the U.S. ? (Re: More about CNN International)
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:24:04 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

In article <HANS.92Sep10123514@ravn.iesd.auc.dk>, hans@iesd.auc.dk (Hans Huttel) writes:
> That doesn't surprise me, really. When I visited the U.S. for the
> first time last month, I discovered that nobody I asked had heard of
> teletext. Does teletext exist at all in the United States ? 

Teletext is a purely European phenomonen as far as I can tell. It got a lot of
support from both the BBC and ITV in its early days (late 70s) and now you'd
be fool to a) buy a new TV set *without* teletext and b) buy newspapers because
the BBC and ITV news round-up pages are excellent and very objective and -
more important - they have TODAY'S news and not yesterday's like newspapers !

Richard K. Lloyd, 
Computer Science Dept.,   JANET     : rkl@uk.ac.liverpool.compsci
Liverpool University,     Internet  : rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk
Merseyside, England,    Q: "What's the world's fastest home micro ?"
Great Britain.          A: "The Archimedes A3000. 4 MIPS for under 800 pounds."
From: sbradley@outb.wimsey.bc.ca (Steve Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Waynes World...
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:47:54 PDT
Organization: Wizard Online

Does anyone out there think the same as I, that Waynes World is a rip off
of Bob and Doug Macanzie, on SCTV, (Canadian programme).

--- Via UCI v1.02 (C-Net Amiga)
From: ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Sky TV - Pathetic (was Re: Satellite TV)
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:16:28 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <Bu7Enz.87G@newcastle.ac.uk>, unregistered@newcastle.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre) writes:
> neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite) writes:
> : 
> : Probably because this is rec.arts.tv.uk, most of the stuff shown on Sky
> : belongs in rec.arts.tv.usa.60's. Sky really is poor and taking a look through
> : this weeks schedule in the TV times, all that interests me are the 2 movie
> : channels.
> : 
> 
> Yes, but Sky is probably the worst of Sat TV (with the exception of Flash
> and Simpsons)....
> 
> : 

They are about to start running the whole of ST:TNG at the rate of an
episode a day. I don't know what they will do once they've caught
up with the BBC.
-- 

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Dundee Institute of Technology	      Tel: (0382) 308810
From: rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk (Richard Lloyd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: More about CNN International
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:44:19 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

In article <1992Sep8.122736.308@dct.ac.uk>, ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig) writes:
> The trouble with CNN in Europe is that we get the international service
> which is crap 90% of the time.

The main things I like about CNN International are that a) it's unscrambled,
b) it provides a US news service for US fans like me :-) and c) it's great
fun spotting the plastic surgery all the female presenters have had (check out
the blonde on "CNN Showbiz Today" - is that nip-and-tuck on the jowls at its
worst or what ? :-) ).

What I *don't* like about CNN International is:

* The constant breaks (I don't mind not having commercials).
* The extensive (and I mean EXTENSIVE) use of ITN footage and reporters instead
  of sending their own US reporters there. "International" ? I think not !
* No teletext service (now one of the few Astra channels not to have a
  teletext service).

> At times of earthquakes,
> hurricanes and riots this summer CNN international has given less
> coverage than Sky, BBC and ITN.

I'd disagree with this - Hurricane Andrew was well covered by CNN International with on-the-spot reporting and a look at the aftermath. If you treat CNN
International as a way to get more US news (I don't consider it a bona fide
international news operation AT ALL), then it's great.

Richard K. Lloyd, 
Computer Science Dept.,   JANET     : rkl@uk.ac.liverpool.compsci
Liverpool University,     Internet  : rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk
Merseyside, England,    Q: "What's the world's fastest home micro ?"
Great Britain.          A: "The Archimedes A3000. 4 MIPS for under 800 pounds."
From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Details on the fate of ST:TNG in the UK
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:04:36 GMT
	<25638@castle.ed.ac.uk> <1992Sep9.131808.8778@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
	<25708@castle.ed.ac.uk>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland
In-reply-to: tjc@castle.ed.ac.uk's message of 10 Sep 92 12:41:29 GMT

In article <25708@castle.ed.ac.uk> tjc@castle.ed.ac.uk (A J Cunningham) writes:

   >> In the case of "The High Ground" it fell foul of the government's
   >> legislation banning any support for terrorism. It wasn't a case of the
   >> BBC censoring it, rather the law forbade them from showing it.

   >I am not aware of any such law. 

   This of course does not mean that such a law does not exist. Supporters
   of the IRA and other terrorist organisations regularly have to be
   subtitled when they appear on TV.

The law bans only broadcasting the speech of members of banned terrorist
organisation like the UVF and the IRA, as far as I know.  They can still show
them talking, and reproduce their speech word for word using subtitles or
someone else's voice.  I think it's unlikely that Star Trek would have given
Gerry Adams a special guest spot on the programme!  It's far more likely that
the BBC just thought it would be too controversial and too pro-terrorism.
The BBC is far more cowardly than it used to be, after all. 
--
	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)
From: wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: <None>
Date: 8 Sep 92 10:41:43 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

For fans of the thinking person's detective:

The final series of Inspector Morse starts next Wednesday, 16th September on
*Channel 4* (which surprised me) at 8:30.

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wilcox@maths.oxford.ac.uk  |    I did---and look what happened to me.
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From: rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk (Richard Lloyd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk,rec.arts.startrek
Subject: Details on the fate of ST:TNG in the UK
Date: 7 Sep 92 10:58:08 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

This is from the weekend's teletext pages on ITV:

Q: "It's great to see the original Star Trek back on TV. But does this mean
that the BBC has lost the rights to show the Next Generation series ?"

A: "Yes, UK rights for the Next Generation have now passed to Sky, which
retains them until July 1994. After that, the BBC will be free to buy the
rights again for old episodes and for any new episodes. In the meantime, NG
will be shown complete on Sky One from October 5th, Mondays to Fridays at
5pm, repeated at 10.30pm each day."

I still can't understand why the rights deal precludes the BBC from
buying Season 4 onwards *now* and showing them *now*. As far as I'm concerned,
the BBC should *not* buy the rights again for the old episodes when they
become available in 1994 because of the complete cock-up they made in airing
them the first time around (banning one episode, censoring several others and -
worst of all - giving it a pathetic 6pm Wednesday timeslot).

As for ST:TNG (Seasons 1 to 3) being reshown on Sky One, this is very good news
for me (with a dish of course !) on several counts:

* Satellite channels all broadcast in stereo unlike the BBC (which still hasn't   got around to providing stereo in my region).
* The repeat means I'll be able to record the first one in timer mode, get the
  exact timings of the ad breaks and archive-record the second showing.
* From what I've learned elsewhere, "shown complete" means NO censoring (even
  for the 5pm showing !) and also the airing for the first time ever in the UK
  of the banned "The High Ground" episode.

I guess it's some crumbs of comfort, but the BBC's treatment of ST:TNG has
been appalling since day one and if the same thing happened in the US, there'd
be riots in the streets by now...

Richard K. Lloyd, 
Computer Science Dept.,   JANET     : rkl@uk.ac.liverpool.compsci
Liverpool University,     Internet  : rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk
Merseyside, England,    Q: "What's the world's fastest home micro ?"
Great Britain.          A: "The Archimedes A3000. 4 MIPS for under 800 pounds."
From: pd@x.co.uk (Paul Davey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Teletext in the U.S. ? (Re: More about CNN International)
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:56:15 GMT
	<HANS.92Sep10123514@ravn.iesd.auc.dk> <BuF9K5.3nL@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Organization: IXI Ltd.

>>>>> On 11 Sep 92 16:24:04 GMT, rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk (Richard Lloyd) said:

rkl> ... and now you'd be fool to a) buy a new TV set *without*
rkl> teletext and b) buy newspapers because the BBC and ITV news
rkl> round-up pages are excellent and very objective and - more
rkl> important - they have TODAY'S news and not yesterday's like
rkl> newspapers !

Pah! I'm sorry but I disagree with this totally.

A newspaper (especially the boardsheets rather than the tabloid
comics) has *far more* depth and news than the simplistic lightweight
overviews on teletext.

I presume you are using ``objective'' to mean ``devoid of any
comment'' - there is no room for it. 	:-)

Even for headline/flash news reports I've found teletext slower than
radio to report the details (ie anything except page 150).

It's really galling when TV schedules change and the newspaper shows
the new schedule whereas the teletext is apparently programmed a week
in advance and left to a cron type job.

[Disclaimer - this experience was several years ago - but I've not
noticed/heard that it's got any better.]

Some friends have teletext but still find it easier to turn to page xx
of the paper *once* rather than tuning to BBC and ITV and accessing a
number of teletext pages - especially the page 1/4 sequences.  
[They don't have a fastext set though - which are better]

One reason for buying a TV without teletext is that you need a good
strong signal and/or antenna to receive it.

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From: dl1@ukc.ac.uk (Duncan Langford)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Is this a record?
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:36:52 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

I know this isn't /really/ about uk tv, but it does refer
to a BBC2 programme...

Last night we needed something to watch, and pulled out
a videotape with an old Rockford Files episode on it,
recorded for just such a moment.

Stunningly, after it had ended (and it wasn't that good,
actually) there came an advertisment for the 1986 Proms -
I'd had the damn thing on tape SIX YEARS before watching it.

Is this a record?

- duncan
From: daveh@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Details on the fate of ST:TNG in the UK
Date: 9 Sep 92 12:18:08 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <25638@castle.ed.ac.uk>, tjc@castle.ed.ac.uk (A J Cunningham) writes:
> judiths@eliot.uucp (Judith Speck) writes:
> 
> 
>>   Why on earth would the BBC censor Star Trek:TNG?  WHAT could there be to
> 
> In the case of "The High Ground" it fell foul of the government's
> legislation banning any support for terrorism. It wasn't a case of the
> BBC censoring it, rather the law forbade them from showing it.
> T
> 
> -- 
> Tony Cunningham, Insignia Solutions. 				   tjc@ed.ac.uk

I am not aware of any such law. I believe that the BBC thought it would "not be
in the public interest" to broadcast "The High Ground".

Dave

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From: neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: A Very Polish Practice (AVPP)
Date: 5 Sep 92 15:25:41 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <PD.92Sep4185824@herts.x.co.uk> pd@x.co.uk (Paul Davey) writes:
>
>I saw a trailer for the above yesterday (for Sunday night coming,
>BBC1).
>
>It's a follow up to the womderful A Very Peculiar Practice with Dr.
>Dacre (sp?) played once again by Peter Davidson. Now married with
>children his former girlfriend played by Joanna Kanska is now his
>wife.
>
>The awful spiv Doctor (Robert not Bob) who's surname escapes me is
>also back again.
>

Bob ('Robert please Stephen') Buzzard is not a spiv, he is a superhero !!!!!

Neil


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From: zzassgl@uts.mcc.ac.uk (Geoff Lane)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk,rec.arts.startrek
Subject: Re: Details on the fate of ST:TNG in the UK
Date: 11 Sep 92 07:52:29 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre, Manchester, England, M13 9PL.

In article <1992Sep9.174231.1982@cs.hw.ac.uk> neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite) writes:
>It mostly revolved around Data saying 'from history it has been demonstrated
>that armed struggle is a productive method of effecting political change.....
>....the reunification of Ireland in 20xx'.
>Neil



Seeing as the Beeb cut sections out of ST:TNG episodes at other times why
couldn't this be cut?  Was the entire plot built around this one event?  





-- 
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UTS Sys Admin, Manchester Computing Centre, Oxford Rd, Manchester, M13 9PL
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From: white@mps.ohio-state.edu (The Master)
Subject: Re: Fireball XL5 and before...
Followup-To: rec.arts.tv.uk
Organization: S.H.A.D.O.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:18:50 GMT


	Before "Fireball XL5", there was a Gerry Anderson series called
"Supercar" which became a surprise hit when WPIX in New York started
airing it.  I believe "Supercar" was the first Anderson series to reach
the States, but he made several others before that: Four Feather Falls,
Torchy Battery Boy, and others.  

Dave White
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Subject: Re: Fireball XL5 and before...
From: olive@edale.amigans.gen.nz (Wayne Hoyle)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 08:22:16 GMT
Organization: Down on the Farm

brein@gpvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Barry Rein) writes:

> Before Thunderbirds there was Stingray.  Before Stingray there was Fireball
> XL5.  And before Fireball XL5 there was...what?  In the dimmest recesses of
> my memory I vaguely recall watching a sci-fi puppet series which may have
> included a rotating ring-shaped space station.  Does anyone remember the
> name of this series, if it existed?
> 
  Sounds like Space Patrol .... but there were a number before XL5 ie.
  
  Four Feather Falls
  Torchie The Battery Boy
  Super Car
  

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From: zlsiimw@mcchpc.mcc.ac.uk (Mark Whidby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Igor Blimey (was Gordon Bennett)
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:34:05 GMT
Reply-To: M.Whidby@mcc.ac.uk
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <1992Sep4.112730.6136@syma.sussex.ac.uk>, andy@syma.sussex.ac.uk
(Andy Clews) writes:
|> migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey) writes:
|> : 
|> : Now that we've been introduced to Messers Bennet and Blimey, can someone
|> : please shed some light on Eee Bye Gum (as in, Lancashire)?
|> 
|> I think the correct rendition is "Ee, bah gum", but I still don't know what
|> on earth it means.
|> 
|> While we're on this Lancashire/Yorkshire/Cockney theme, perhaps someone can
|> enlighten us as to the hidden meaning of "gone for a Burton" (as applied to

I seem to remember this as being a shortened form of "gone for a beer brewed
at Burton-upon-Trent" but I don't understand the significance of that
either unless it's rhyming slang for 'bent'. I think it read this in Richard
Boston's book about beer.

|> something which has just broken) and "hows yer father" (which as far as I
|> can tell denotes something which is slightly on the taboo side [e.g.
|> "Blimey, that's a bit hows-yer-father isn't it?"]). I may be wrong. I have
|> cockney roots, but no-one in my family seems to be able or willing to
|> explain the hidden meaning of these two puzzling phrases. I'm sure I've
|> heard both of them on EastEnders --- which provides a link to this
|> newsgroup and therefore my justification for continuing this thread :-)

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From: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Subject: nyssa
Reply-To: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:37:19 EST

-> Why doesn't anybody like Nyssa?

 Not true. Nyssa (Sarah Sutton) has a mountain of fans. Just ask in
rec.arts.drwho.

Regards,
Dale Clayton
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