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From: RONEAL@lexmark.com (Randy O'Neal)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: ST:TNG : Vendetta... re-run or new episode?
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:25:12 GMT
Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington, KY
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I read in the original newsgroup (just the other day) a reference to an
episode of ST:TNG called Vendetta.  It was supposed to have something to
do with a female Borg that is captured or encountered with a portion of
her implants damaged.  This Borg was supposed to have expressed remorse
and/or grief for the wanton destruction of countless millions by her
race.  This episode does not ring a bell.  I *think* I've seen all of
the episodes, but every once in awhile I stumble across one that I've
missed.
 
Is Vendetta a re-run, or is this a new episode scheduled for the upcoming
season?  Also, I'd be interested in a listing of all of the episodes
and the brief synopsis (I understand there's such a thing floating out
there in the net somewhere).  If you can either send me a copy or tell me
where I can obtain a copy, I'd appreciate it.
 
One last thing... will Lt. Worf appear 'Worfier' this season?  He's been
gradually 'maturing' in his appearance as a Klingon, but in my opinion
is still rather mild in contrast to Galron or his brother.  As long as
he doesn't get fat and disgusting like Kimpek... just curious.
 
 
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From: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Julie Bixby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Star Trek Timex Watches?
Date: 7 Sep 92 00:20:34 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

In July the LA Times had a blurb that "Timex has signed a 5-year
licensing agreement with Paramount Pictures to market and distribute
Star Trek watches", and that they'd be available in department stores.
Has anybody seen these?


-- 
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From: cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: What are we going to do with Alexander?
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:42:21 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <phurley.8@tamu.edu) phurley@tamu.edu (Philip W. Hurley) writes:
))In article <schuncke.716083498@cwis) schuncke@cwis.unomaha.edu (John 
)Schuncke) writes:
)
)))Almost everyone on the net seems to acknowledge that there are some
)))problems with the character of Alexander.   A significant portion of
)))you would like to see him loaded and fired from the aft photon torpedo
)))launcher.
)
)I think that Worf should go ahead and become personally involved in 
)Alexander's education as a Klingon. A continuing sub-plot would not be 
)difficult centered around Klingon life. It would give everyone the 
)opportunity to become more intimately familiar with Klingon ways. It could 
)also be tied somehow into restoring Worf's father's good name or moving 
)Alexander into a position on the "Council." Remember the punk who was being 

Nah... I like the photon torpedo tube idea better.  :-)
-- 
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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Was TOS really that bad? (Re: TOS actors)
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:22:51 GMT

In article <rawdon.715903556@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>In <1992Sep7.192244.7089@cco.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
>>Followups set to r.a.s.misc.  Folks, you *really* should know better by now.
>
>I just send 'em wherever people have the Followup-To: line set to.  *I* didn't
>want this split...
>
>>rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:

[on Picard's character...]

>I think there have been an (n where n is a small integer) number of episodes
>where he has displayed some color in his character ("Lonely Among Us" comes
>to mind), but for the most part I see him more as a walking exposition
>device than an honest-to-ghod character.

"Walking exposition device".  Sounds to me like somebody's been in a
drama class, heard a cool phrase, and is looking for a place to use it.
To my way of thinking, this phrase has no direct, meaningful application
to Picard's character.  If you feel that I'm wrong, please give some
further reenforcement to the statement.  In what way do you feel this is
true, or can you give some classic examples of this percieved syndrome?


>
>It's gotten worse and worse over the last two years, too.

Please.  If anything, Picard's character has been more fully fleshed out
in seasons four and five.  For example, "Family" explored some of his
personal feelings.  "Inner Light" went a long way towards revealing more
of this side of him.  "The Drumhead" is another fine example of a fully
developed character.  If you don't like any of these as examples, how
about "The Perfect Mate"?  To me, each of these episodes portrayed a
character of emotional complexity, each self-consistant with one
another.  There's nothing blank about Picard's character.

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From: lipscomb@lonestar.utsa.edu (David S. Lipscomb)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Navy in Star Trek
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:05:04 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Sep10.210918.4546@cbfsb.cb.att.com> drw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (david.r.wells) writes:
>In article <92Sep10.154822.26326@acs.ucalgary.ca> jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell) writes:
>>In article <37877@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> cmhayes@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Purple Hayes   ) writes:
>>>history?  I believe the USS Entrpise (CVN-65) was commissioned about
>>>the same time TOS began her own maind voyage.  The public could preceive it as
>
>CVN-65 was commissioned in 1961 I believe.
>>
>>As a side query, how many Enterprises have there been so far? The
>>19th Century battleship (?), the carrier (what class, by the
>>way?), and the mock-Shuttle... anything else? (I'm not counting
>>the Trek 5)
>
>USS Enterprise CV-6 (1938-1959 RIP) was a Yorktown class carrier.
>(about 19,800 tons empty). CV-6 was arguably the most successful warship
>in history.
>
>USS Enterprise CVN-65 (1961-present) is unique (therefore, Enterprise
>class). She is the world's first nuclear carrier. She is powered by
>8 reactors (modern carriers need only 2). She is still the world's
>longest warship (1101.5 feet)
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 how many service personel are usually on board?


>
>I know of no 19th century battleship Enterprise (and my information
>is relatively good)
>
>There was a British curiser HMS Enterprise built after WWI. It served
>in WWII. Aparently, the British have used this name several times in the
>past.
>>
>>>Now look at TNG.  They are using more ship names that the rest of
>>>the world can relate to.  "Soyuz" (sp?),  "Berlin", "Melbourne"
>>>(for the rest check out Mr. Carrington's list)  Remember Star Trek
>>>is popular thoughtout the world now.  Wouldn't you want to make our
>>>customers happy?
>>
>>I prefer 'em myself. Tho I would enjoy seeing the USS Nimtz,
>>maybe an Excelsior class?
>
>BUT STILL NO WARSPITE (after HMS Warspite, 1913-1956 RIP)
>
>or New Jersey (after USS New Jersey, BB-62 1943-present)
>
>Except for the Yamato, battleship names are rather underrepresented in
>Star Fleet. (OK there was also the Kongo in TOS.)
>
>
>		David R. Wells
>
>DISCLAIMER: These are MY views, not AT&Ts.
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From: kanamori@csd-d-3.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori)
Subject: Re: STTNG clip on Entertainment Tonight
Originator: kanamori@csd-d-3.Stanford.EDU
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organizatoin
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 03:50:02 GMT

In article <lag8tvINNsap@aludra.usc.edu> efranqui@aludra.usc.edu (Eduardo Franqui) writes:
>I don't know if anyone saw it, but right before the Emmy awards E.T. was
>interviewing the producer from STTNG.  While they talked, clips were being
>shown of the show.  To me they were clips I had never seen before.  

To me, they were clips you had never seen before either. :-)

>They 
>included the Enterprise being enveloped by a green beam originating from the
>planet below.  

"A Matter of Time"? (or was it "The Masterpiece Society" -- these 
tacked on science plots are hard to keep track of :-)


>However the most striking scene was Riker talking to Data's 
>HEAD.  
>That's right, seperated from the body and hooked up to the E's 
>computer.
>The head was placed on the table, and yes the eyes were moving and so was the
>mouth.  Did anyone else see it, perhaps and most probably it is part two 
>to the season ender.

"Disaster" (the 5th season episode about Troi's first command.)

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From: Sem_Hoelscher@hb.maus.de (Sem Hoelscher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Short question about Lt.Sa
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 08:53:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

Shacha Ian!

[id]                 "Did she change her hair?" - McCoy
                     "I hadn't noticed." (-NOT!) - Kirk

Cute scene ... cute ...

Oyori - Sem [smiling in Northern Germany]

BTW: The Germans hardly noticed it ... Interesting thing ...
From: rene@iesd.auc.dk (Rene Boe Soerensen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Mutiny on the Holodeck
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:10:09 GMT
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University

>>>>> On 9 Sep 92 16:30:28 GMT, judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael
>>>>> Judson) said:


Michael> In article <jverho80.715918866@ursa> jverho80@ursa.calvin.edu
Michael> (Jeff Verhoef) writes:

Michael> (stuff deleted)

> Given the fact that the 
> holodeck replicates matter, and in theory can replicate actual 
> instrumentation that works (I'm using the events in "A Matter of Perspective"
> as a reference), would it be possible for a mutinous crewmember to use 
> the bridge on the holodeck to take over the ship?

Michael> Yes, I think it would be possible.  Remember the episode with
Michael> LaForge and the women who he recreated on the Holodeck to
Michael> help him with an engineering problem?  Well, didn't he say
Michael> something like "Transfer con controls to the holodeck."?
Michael> Since the entire Enterprise is interlinked, then a person
Michael> should theoretically be able to control the ship from
Michael> anywhere, even a bathroom, so long as he knows how to do it
Michael> and has the proper authorization.  Thus, it would
Michael> theoretically be possible for a mutiny in a holodeck.
Michael> However, it would only be possible if bridge controls were
Michael> transfered to the holodeck, which, I think, can only be
Michael> authorized by the captain.
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Remember the episode where they meet the abandoned Science vessel
Tsiolkovsky (sp?) and get the virus onboard, making every-body who's
infected behave kinda wierd... Wesley uses a Picard Voice Simulator to
transfer control to himself in Engineering. This could just as well
had been done from the Holodeck so this is not at all impossible IMHO.

I think this was from a 1. season episode. The title slips my mind at
the moment.

Michael> --
Michael> "I drank what?" -- Socrates

Michael> judson@watserv.ucr.edu

Rene Boe
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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: TNG script guidelines (was Re: horse's stardates)
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:58:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.035517.24342@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
>In article <1992Sep4.163228.11844@hellgate.utah.edu> jwindley%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Jay Windley) writes:
>>eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson) writes:
>>>If you are thinking of submitting a script, they suggest these guidelines
>>
>>>-Stories with lots of exterior scenes.
>>
>>Translation: "We don't want to go on location."  This I can buy, since
>>location shooting is PHENOMENALLY expensive compared to soundstage
>>work.  That's why TOS built most of their "exteriors" on a stage.
>>This also wreaks havoc on production schedules.  It takes longer to
>>shoot on location than to shoot on a stage.  Since TNG is on such a
>>tight production schedule, this seems like a reasonable guideline.


>This is something that's always really bothered me, i.e. why is it
>so expensive for Hollywood shows to go on location?
>Location work is/(was) routine for "Doctor Who," a show which certainly
>has never had near the same amount of money as ST:TNG does, yet
>in most of the last fifteen years of the series, a viewer is hard
>pressed to find a story where they didn't go on location for at least
>a few scenes.
>

Could it be that the BBC gets outside so much more frequently is that
they shoot all of their footage on videotape?  Seems like it's probably
a lot cheaper to find a guy with a professional camcorder on his
shoulder, than to hire a crew equipped with a skycrane and a Panaflex
unit.

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From: tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Robert Oliver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Star Trek RPG materials FOR SALE
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 20:18:09 EDT
Organization: Ailanthus Project

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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: DS9: Who will write? (was Re: DS9: Who will star?)
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:49:08 GMT

In article <Bu2M29.DMz.1@cs.cmu.edu> mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu (Matthew Gertz) writes:
>KELSEY@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (KELSEY, Michael H.) writes:

[...]

>even they had some nice plot holes.)  I'd like to see several authors
>write for Trek, maybe even authors who've written Trek books.  I swore
>off reading Trek books about three years back, but everyone has had
>nice things to say about Peter David's books so maybe I've got to
>get back into them and see what they're like -- they certainly sound
>good, from what I've read on the jacket covers and heard here on r.a.s.c.


I had never read _any_ Trek books at all for fear of the poor quality.
I too was swayed by the glowing reviews of David's work, "Vendetta" in
particular.  Unfortunately, I got pretty much what I was hoping to
avoid.  "Vendetta" read like a comic book from page one.  I found it to
be uninteresting reading full of all of the stereotypical devices and
dialogues that Star Trek is justly famous for.  If you're looking for
_good_ fiction, forget it.  If you're looking for a typical TNG episode
in printed form, pick it up.

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From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: "IMZADI" (where/which ep was this stated?)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 22:32:40 EDT
Organization: Berry Communications

eric@banzai.PCC.COM (The Modem Man) writes:

> The word "Imzadi" was first used in STTNG on the "Encounter at
> Farpoint" premier.
> 
> When Riker is introduced to Deanna by Picard, we here Deanna
> communicate telepathically with Riker.  I don't remember the
> exact dialogue, but the word "Imzadi" was definitely said by
> Deanna.

Exactly right.

> The other occurrence is, I believe in the episode called "Haven".
> I can't remember which season it's in.  I think it's the second
> season.  Deanna is betrothed to the son of an Earth couple that
> L'Waxana (sp?) knew.

"Haven" is first season, and it's spelled Lwaxana.

Riker also addresses Troi as "Imzadi" in "The Loss".

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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: weapons technology
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:36:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.183327.6656@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> lipscomb@lonestar.utsa.edu (David S. Lipscomb) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.182655.6426@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> cglover@lonestar.utsa.edu (Calvin G. Glover) writes:

>>    i was watching one of the old star trek movies the other night and some-
>>    thing that had been troubling me for a while suddenly surfaced once
>>    again.
>>
>>    why isn't there a guided photon torpedo?  one would think that in the
>>    24th century weapons technology would have advanced sufficiently so
>>    that a starship capable of faster-than-light speed wouldn't be on the
>>    same hit/miss ratio level as a WWII submarine.

Incidently, you may have noticed that Trek II was basically a 40's sub
movie in space.


>>    we know that they are capable of guiding them, as shown in stvi.  so
>>    why aren't they standard issue.  even in st.tng you hear picard and
>>    whorf talking about torpedo "spreads", like they were adjusting the
>>    choke on a shotgun.  shoot out a bunch and hope that one hits?  please.

You're right, by golly!  Let's imagine how the movie would've gone if
they had been "scientifically self-consistant"...

Kirk:  Fire!    

Sulu:  Torpedoes away......torpedo 1, direct hit!  Torpedo 2, direct
	hit!  Torpedo 3, direct hit!  Target destroyed.

Kirk:  Well.  That was less than satisfying, wasn't it Sulu?

Sulu:  <sigh>  Yeah.  Remember the good ol' days when we didn't have
	guidance systems in the torpedoes and the battle scenes were more
	interesting?

Kirk:  Captain's log 1324253737.8768 (that should keep the tech-junkies
guessing for a while).  After encountering a hostile ship, we fired
three torpedoes and the enemy was destroyed.  Our shield held throughout
the battle, so we suffered no damage.  The new seat belts that were
installed in the bridge chairs effectively held us in place during all
the buffeting and the recently installed back-up warp engines kept us
warp-capable during repairs of the main units.  How I long for the good
old days.  I feel......I feel old.
 

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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Actors' Other Roles [1/1]
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:45:16 GMT

In article <1835plINN6vp@agate.berkeley.edu> jacob@plasma2.ssl.berkeley.edu (Jamey Jacob) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.181526.25068@tamsun.tamu.edu>, b1i3297@zeus.tamu.edu (Bryan A. Ignatow) writes:

>|> This posted for a friend:
>|> 
>|> > Denise Crosby
>|> > -----------------
>|> > Television:  Star Trek: The Next Generation.
>|> > Pictures:    (None Known).
>|> 48 Hours. (A hooker)
>|> 
>   Pet Cemetary (the first one), and of course there is her
>   Playboy spread.


This is too good to be an unintentional joke, Jamey.

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From: Sem_Hoelscher@hb.maus.de (Sem Hoelscher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Stardates--from the horse'
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 08:53:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

Shacha Eileen!

[es] AVOID (or NO):
     -Stories with lots of planet scenes.
     -Stories with lots of exterior scenes.
     -Stories that rely on lots of action or special effects.
     -Stories based on earlier stories or characters.
     -Stories depending on a prior relationship.
     -Stories about the guest star, not the cast.
     -Stories that could be on any other drama (drugs, AIDS, Divorce...)
     -Stories without a personal aspect.
And this one "finally", great, I'm missing the words ...
     -Stories about the supernatural, swords & socery.
     _Stories that sound like TOS (Indian planet, Nazi planet)
     -Stories "high on the hoke scale" ("Troi kidnapped by space pirates, sold
      into slavery." (Sort of sorry to hear they feel this way. If they don't
      get her back, it could be one of my favorite shows!))
ROTFLASTC! (I really scared my cat now, Eleen, you must not do that! Grin,
still hurting.) - Though: I somehow dislike other people around there a
lot more!

[es] They want stories that take place entirely on Enterprise.
Ah yes. But nothing personal, nothing on former "guests" (if invited or
not), nothing on tricks (so no job for Wes, the only point I like here),
what the hell do they want? =They= are talking about low budget? Aha yes,
what had become of Star Trek, if Gene in the late 60ns had agreed and not
tried it? Woooooooooooooahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Thank you a lot for your effort to tell us (here's just one on the net,
and usually, it are =my= ideas I write down, but I tell the others, and
I know them personally, so I have some idea what they might be thinking).

Oyori - Sem [left thinking in Northern Germany]
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