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From: darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: MacroMaker (another question)
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:00:50 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis

Thanks to all who emailed responses to my previous post asking
about a replacement for MacroMaker under System 7.  The consensus
reply was that MacroMaker *will* work under System 7.  However, I
have heard that MacroMaker is incompatible with Word 5. Can anyone
confirm this?  And I'd still like to know of any PD/shareware
alternatives.

Thanks again,

Richard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: bernard@cs.colorado.edu (Bernie Bernstein)
Subject: Re: SPA piracy raid at Oregon?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:07:23 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.180121.20928@cmcl2.nyu.edu>, galanter@nyu.edu (Philip
Galanter) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Jul19.140907.29328@newstand.syr.edu>  
> ksalper@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Ken Alper) writes:
> |  No, Jer, if someone stole my $500 car I actually WOULD be pissed and I WOULD
> |  report it to the police...but if they stole a COPY OF MY CAR, I wouldn't care.
> |
> |  Get it?

Yes, if you bought a car, then other people can dupicate it without any
expense to you, so of course you don't care. Just like software, if you
had purchased some, you don't mind giving copies away since it is no
additional cost to you.

Good thing you aren't in the car business. If people were able to
duplicate cars, I don't think the car industry would be producing
very much. We'd all be driving copies of Model A's. What would be
the incentive for the auto industry to continue to develop quality
products when they will only sell a few of them? And those few would
be too expensive for anyone but the wealthiest to purchase.

What if you were trying to sell your $500 car for $500, but someone else
was giving copies of your car away for free? I don't think you'll find
many customers.


> 
> If you wrote a book and I printed 1000 copies of equal quality and gave  
> them away in front of the bookstore selling your published version would  
> you be pissed?
> 
> Phil

Another good analogy.

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From: bms@penguin.eng.pyramid.com (Bruce Schlobohm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Zterm use Summary
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:24:46 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology, San Jose, Ca.

In article <25648@sophia.inria.fr>, jmale@uranie.inria.fr (Jean-Michel Male) writes:
| 	The big points are the modems. Zterm seems to work only
| 	with Hayes modems ...

This is incorrect.  Zterm will work with non-Hayes modems as well.
I've successfully used 2 very different modems, neither was manufactured
by Hayes.  It is nice if the interface uses the "AT commands", but not
a requirement.

| 	Some of the people that answered my questions pointed out
| 	that Zterm is confused at high transfert rates.

This has been discussed recently in comp.sys.mac.comm.  The mac (especially
slower macs) can't keep up with a constant 19.2k baud stream of data.
This gets worse if apple-talk is active.  The problem is not with Zterm.

-- 
bruce
From: Robert.H.Gross@dartmouth.edu (Robert H. Gross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: SPA piracy raid: Call for Solutions
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:33:51 GMT
 <1992Jul30.142559.6818@informix.com>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <1992Jul30.142559.6818@informix.com>
robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg) writes:

> > PS - the above assumes that there is a valid way to check the date/time
> > on the computer that cannot be fooled by just changing the clock.
> 
> This last is the rub I think, Robert. The software could only check the time by  
> looking at the computer's clock, whose setting is in the hands of the user.
> Also, any kind of built-in protection mechanisms always invite cracking.  

One can also check the time by taking a random sampling of creation and
modification dates on all modified volumes. If a certain number of
these dates are later than the actual "clock" date, then is is likely
that the clock has been set back.

As far as cracking the time checking, you are right - there will always
be someone who will do it. These folks are few and far between,
however, and make up a very small minority of the user population.

Bob Gross
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From: ksalper@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Ken Alper)
Subject: Re: Copyrights and piracy...
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 18:03:42 EDT

  I have  a slight feeling that I'm going to be flamed.

  Screw the rights of the performers. It's the age of information. Unless a 
  person is making money from or passing off another's work as his own, I don't
  think it's a problem. Hey, Matt Groening, my Mac says "Working is for Chumps."
  Do you and Nancy Cartwright give a shit?

  Didn't think so.

  Ken
From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: SPA piracy raid: Call for Solutions
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 92 21:10:12 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

wrr3118@tamsun.tamu.edu (Rick Russell) writes:

RR> This is what really bugs me. If some goofus took my copy of 
RR> a program and sent it for an upgrade without my knowledge, 
RR> I would be seriously pissed. Unfortunately, the vendor's "no 
RR> questions asked" policy prevents me from finding out who was 
RR> responsible.

well, if someone stole my computer, I'd be upset, too.  So I try to arrange
things so that it's difficult as possible to steal my computer.  Why should we
be any looser with our original disks?  They're as valuable as the computer. 
In some cases, more so.  So put them where they can't be stolen.

And I think the original idea was a good starting point.  It can always be
modified; for example, you want to find out who upgraded the copy you bought
but was stolen from you.  OK, so the publisher asks you for a copy of the
receipt for that purchase.  You send it to the publisher, and the publisher
sends you the name and address of the person who upgraded your copy.  (This
will only work if every copy of a piece of software was serialized, and the
serial number was included on the original sales receipt.)

The original idea also works well for when you want to sell your software. 
Quark doesn't have to know or care who bought what from whom; simply sell
upgrades to certain serial numbers.  If disks were stolen, follow the above
procedure.

--Adam--
 
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From: bhanafee@deimos.ads.com (Brian Hanafee)
Subject: Re: WingZ - sys 7 compatible version ?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mountain View, CA 94043, +1 (415)
	960-7300
	<lkingsley-230792085948@lkingsley.crd.ge.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 03:55:10 GMT


In article <lkingsley-230792085948@lkingsley.crd.ge.com> lkingsley@crd.ge.com (Lorne J. Kingsley) writes:
>[lots of stuff]
>Wingz offered (and continues to offer) some unique features that Resolve
>never will, i.e., DataLink (provides the ability to communicate with remote
>databases via SQL).

Claris Resolve 1.1 supports DAL.

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From: schultz@halley.est.3m.com (John C. Schultz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: binhex, stuffit and MacNFS
Date: 25 Jul 92 15:42:04 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: 3M Company, 3M Center, Minnesota, USA

Whoops, disengage brain, don't look at file and make stupid errors.

There is a text header on these files (as opposed to .Z files).

Thanks for the help.  (blush :-)
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From: naiming@eng.umd.edu (Naiming Shen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Is there a TeachText without start the program with a new file?
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:11:59 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering, University of Maryland


I hate the TeachText when started it gives you a new file window by default.
My version of TeachText is version 1.2. Is there a newer version which doesn't
do this, or can I configure it not to do this?

Naiming,
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From: lreda@sophia.smith.edu (Liana Maria Reda)
Subject: RevRdist 
Organization: Smith College
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:26:31 GMT

	Hello.  Does anyone know about a utility or hypercard stack that
willl simplify creating the distribution control file for RevRdist?

	Could you mail me at lreda@sophia.smith.edu?

Thanks

-Liana
From: faraullo@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (THE BIG "F")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: SoundTracker
Keywords: SoundTracker, MODs
Date: 25 Jul 92 09:54:04 GMT

Sorry to dump such a question in this forum, but my postnews
fucntion is knid of iffy right now, and I know I can post here.

I'm looking for the large Sound Tracker archive. I remember that it
had nothing but MODs, but I can't find the address. If someone could
drop me the address, I'd appreciate it. Thanks

Frank

faraullo@sdcc13.ucsd.edu
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Word_5_Sys_Resources_R-installing_Sys_7
Date: 22 Jul 1992 17:21:00 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <whitmore.711818010@pv343f.vincent.iastate.edu> whitmore@iastate.edu
(Kurt D Whitmore) writes:
>Does re-installing system 7 negate the system resources added during
>installation of Word 5.

Probably. An application has no business modifying the System file.

Speaking of which, it looks like SuperLaserSpool adds an "SLS3" resource to the
System. I'm going to try removing it and see if it kills SLS.

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Friday, 24 Jul 1992 14:21:22 EDT
From: CHUCK WILLIAMS <34A6J53@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: *** mac -----> PCX ***

hello netters,

I am curious if there is a shareware/pd program that will allow me to convert

Mac graphic files (TIFF, PICT, anything) to an IBM PCX file?  I need this

pretty bad.  Any leads would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks a Million,

Chuck Williams, Central Michigan University
34a6j53@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu
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From: carson@tron.bwi.wec.com (Dana Carson)
Subject: File translators
Keywords: PICT formats XTND graphics
Organization: Westinghouse Electric Corporation, Baltimore MD.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:26:35 GMT

  A friend is looking to convert Mac PICT files to PC Harvard Graphics
files.  He has a Mac program that translates file types (the name has
escaped me for now) but it doesn't have the foramt he wants.  Going
from Mac to PC it will only convert PICT into PCX or similar bitmap
images.  Going from PC to Mac it has a whatever Harvard Graphics vector
format is called to PICT translator.  He needs to opposite so that he
can still rescale, etc. after the drawings are on the PC.  Any XTND
modules or standalone programs to do this.  I'm not sure about the XTND
modules but I belive that the package he's using uses XTND modules.

   Thanks.

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From: bary1@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Word 5 hogs System resources.
Date: 22 Jul 92 12:00:37 EDT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University

Microsoft Word 5 running on a Quadra 700 that also does Appleshare 3.0 file
server and Print Server hogs the system so much that the print server could not
adequately communicate with the printer and incoming print jobs.

Not that I use it that much. I prefer WordPerfect. But I thought I would add to
the MicroSoft bash.  Keep up the good work MicroSoft... maybe someday you will
be out of business. :-(
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David Simmons)
Subject: Re: More MacDraw Pro gripes
Originator: davids@feynman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:43:40 GMT


In article <15679@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie) writes:
|> In article <712555983.F00003@blkcat.UUCP>, Ladd.Morse@p804.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ladd Morse) writes:
|> > 
|> > And I agree, the arrowhead deal on Draw Pro irks me, too.  
|> 
|> After umpteen versions of MacDraw they still don't have a font menu
|> that displays all of the fonts in the system! I can't understand how
|> Claris can be so woodenheaded. The darn thing is also WAYYYY too big!
|> (though it's not the only offender in that area)
|> 
|> Richard

Reminds me of a quote....."MacDraw Pro isn't."  It isn't even MacDraw
Amateur.  Maybe MacDraw Bush-League is a better title.
-- 

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davids@lanl.gov			 add some guilt to it and make it even worse!"
						-Calvin
If I said it, LANL didn't...

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						-Calvin
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From: aa699@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Thomas)
Subject: Printing Postscript on Mac
Reply-To: aa699@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Thomas)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 09:39:06 GMT


I have an IBM and have a program that produces Apple Laserwriter
Postscript output.  Can I take an IBM 3.5" disc with the print
file and print it on a Mac system at Kinko's?  I know that
the Apple File Exchange utility can read IBM discs.  How can
I print the file with the Mac? 

E-Mail replies appreciated..

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From: pandy@hut.fi (Andreas Holmberg)
Subject: Re: PageMaker 4.2 filters
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
	<1992Jul20.174231.21357@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
	<PANDY.92Jul21140746@vipunen.hut.fi>
Date: 22 Jul 92 08:38:29

In article <PANDY.92Jul21140746@vipunen.hut.fi> pandy@hut.fi (Andreas Holmberg) writes:
-> 	Let's continue on the same subject:
->
-> 	Is there a way to export documents FROM PageMaker to a word processor?

	Sorry about this. I must have gone blind temporarily. This can,
	of course, be done with the "export" command in the file menu.

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From: mfterman@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Mutant for Hire)
Subject: MS-Word 5.0 & Text Files
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 03:01:08 GMT

Okay, I'm using Word 5.0a and there's a tedious feature that I'd love
to disable. Whenever I'm opening a text file, it asks me if I want to
open it as text or as text with layout. Since I always want to open it
as the former, I'd love to be able to avoid having to deal with this
dialogue box each time I open a text file.

Additionally, is there ever going to be a fix to the problem of
editing a file, then closing but not saving the changes, and then
having that file being locked by MS-Word until the program is quit?
That's a problem I'd love seen fixed.



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"The parts of the universe I don't control are stomping all over the parts of
  me that control the parts of the universe I do control." - Martin Terman
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: How to uncripple HyperCard?
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:55:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.234014.5742@CSUFresno.EDU>, rhorowit@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU (Rick Horowitz) writes:
> 
> In article <14782@claris.com> mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:
> >You get manuals and stacks (including some powerful utility
> >stacks) in the kit.  You also get Claris technical support,
> >which you are not entitled to if you don't have the kit.
> 
> Is it worth the cost? Or is this the same info you would/could 
> get from buying Goodman's book, and ftping stacks?

These are stacks that you can't ftp; they are commercial, not
freeware or shareware.  Once you have them, though, you're allowed
to use their scripts and art work in your own stacks.

Another benefit you get from buying it is that you become a
registered user and should be able to get any updgrades that Claris
might develop at upgrade prices instead of list prices.
From: ags@seaman.cc.purdue.edu (Dave Seaman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Mathematica question
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:23:22 GMT

In article <whitmore.712441064@pv343f.vincent.iastate.edu>  
whitmore@iastate.edu (Kurt D Whitmore) writes:
> Don't try getting by with virtual memory Mma runs real slow.
> 8 megs is the absolute min with system 7 (the current shipping software)
> This will give you about 6 megs to allocate to mma, but no other  
programs can
> be run in the back ground. Dont quote me but I believe the si has a meg  
soldered on the motherboard so when you get eight 1 meg simms you actually  
have 9 megs of RAM, that would be ideal.

Even a 6 Mb partition is inadequate if you want to do much, particularly  
if animated graphics are involved.

I have found that Mathematica works quite well with virtual memory,  
provided there is enough physical memory installed to provide a reasonable  
working set. I am running Mathematica in a 16 Mb virtual memory partition  
on a machine with 8 Mb of real memory, and it runs quite well.

--
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ags@seaman.cc.purdue.edu
From: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Copyrights and piracy...
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:45:02 GMT
Reply-To: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Organization: Peirce Software
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <14820@claris.com> (comp.sys.mac.apps), mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:
> In article <1992Jul21.180343.4066@newstand.syr.edu>, ksalper@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Ken Alper) writes:
> > 
> > 
> >   I have  a slight feeling that I'm going to be flamed.
> > 
> >   Screw the rights of the performers. It's the age of information. Unless a 
> >   person is making money from or passing off another's work as his own, I don't
> >   think it's a problem. Hey, Matt Groening, my Mac says "Working is for Chumps."
> >   Do you and Nancy Cartwright give a shit?
> > 
> >   Didn't think so.
> 
> What if he decides to market a disk full of sounds from The Simpsons and you
> have already copied those sounds to your disk, so you don't need to buy his
> disk?
> 
> Sounds from Star Trek are on the market now.  That means a lost sale to
> people who have already copied those sounds from videotape or off the
> air.
> 
> There is no difference between copying those sounds and copying executable
> software.

Well Mike, there is some difference in quality.  Many of the digitized
sounds off TV or even of records or tape (though not off CD) aren't
very high quality.  Lots of noise.

I expect that "original" sounds sold on disk would be sampled down
versions of the original digital master sounds.

Still, you point is on the whole valid - I'm sure many people just
want the sounds as toys and the poor quality of the bootleg versions
isn't that big of a deal for toy sounds.

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From: greeny@top.cis.syr.edu (J. S. Greenfield)
Subject: Re: Copyrights and piracy...
Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 11:19:28 EDT

In article <1992Jul27.185456.88@physc1.byu.edu> goblec@physc1.byu.edu writes:
>
>In article <1992Jul25.093918.20532@newstand.syr.edu>, ksalper@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Ken Alper) writes:
>> 
>>   And a QuickTime movie thatr consisted of an entire episode of the Simpsons 
>>   would piss off Matt Groening and the unions in what way? 
>> 
>>   It's a f=====g video tape that I'm watching on my computer instead of on 
>>   my VCR!!!
>> 
>>   How is a Quicktime movie on my Mac different than a VCR copy?
>> 
>>   Ken
>
>Because the Supreme Court decided VCR's were a special case.  I had forgotten
>this when I wrote my messages teh other day.

Are you sure about this?  I think that what the court found was that
*time-shifting* of a broadcast work was a "special case" in that it did not
infringe upon the copyright.

I'm not clear that there was any finding that the particular medium, videotape,
was the essential factor.  Rather, the fact that time-shifting was a legal
action was used to say that blank videotapes had a high likelihood of being
used for purposes that did not infringe upon copyrights--and therefore, the
film companies did not have the right to collect royalties on blank videotape
sales.


>Interesting question that falls under all this.  Public transmission enter my
>house.  ie. Satelite.  If I crack the scrambling method, am I violating a
>copywrite?  Wasn't there a big controversy about this a few years back?  Radio
>Shack selling HBO busters or something like that.

We beat this one to death a while back.  You would not only be violating
copyright law, you would also be violating the Cable Communications Policy
Act of 1984 and the Satellite Home Viewer Act of 1988.  The latter allows
penalties of up to a $500,000 fine and up to 5 years in prison.

(Email me if you want a copy of the summary I posted some time back.)


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From: piper@rsvl.unisys.com (Piper Keairnes )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Drag-drop deBinHex application saught
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:11:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: rsvl.unisys

>>Is there a program which allows me to deBinHex a bunch of binhex files in
>>one go, either by drag-drop or via a batch process.

>On a Unix system, you can use Mcvert to deBinHex the files...

Along this same line, I've noticed that mcvert will strip out all of the
uglies from an HQX file without a problem. Most of the utilities that
I've tried using on the Mac all choke when the HQX file is a set of
split files concatenated together (e.g. off of comp.binaries.mac). Is
there a reliable utility on the Mac that will not die a terrible death
when there are non-hqx lines mixed in the middle of the file?

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