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From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Subject: Oct. Afternoon ... some surprises
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 10:44:45 GMT
Originator: irsincla@uts.EDU.AU

The 800-page Afternoon is here!  This article contains very mild spoilers/
H content, so bail out now if you don't like that.

As reported on f.r.c, Compiler has ended.  I guess this is no
surprise to anyone who has been following Kia Asamiya's career.
(Also, no surprise to Afternoon readers who know: IF episode# mod 9 = 0
THEN expect the worst. ^_^) It will be replaced with another Kia Asamiya
effort called "0X", supposedly a mix of SF, Comedy, love story, etc.

Dr. Kishiwada now seems to be one of the top four titles in Afternoon,
along with Kiseiju, AMG and GSC.  There is a great lurid cover and
some good color pages, almost up to Shirow's standard.  This episode
is called "Cyberfuck", and Dr. K pulls some guy off the street to
test his virtual reality equipment (the guy ends up getting a virtual
blowjob!).  On p.118-119 there is a montage which seems to be a parody
of something, my guess is it's a parody of the (manga) ending of Akira.

Also, color pages for AMG this month.  K1 and the goddesses are at
the beach, Skuld has Banpei-kun set up as a jetski.  For dnab's info,
Urd appears topless. (^_^)

Jigoku no Ie is hotting up!  By Sep. Afternoon, all the main characters
had already slept with each other... and that was only the 6th episode!
So the next logical step for GONTA was to throw in another character,
ie. the grotesque stripper Youko, who Kyouichi met while in jail.  Well,
of course, they had sex in the first couple of pages of Oct. Afternoon. ^_^

Hoshiyama threw a big party, which everyone was at.  Mai cut her hair,
and cried when Harou said it looked prettier when it was long.  (I disagree
with him.)  Youko and Kyouichi turn up, and Youko is bitching out everyone
there in a MAJOR way!  So much so that Kyouichi's stepmother pukes on her.
^_^  Oh, I love that story.  I'll have to check out Heaven now.

I haven't had a chance to try to understand Kiseiju yet, except for
the bit at the end where Shinichi sees a palm reader (naturally, he
offers his left hand ^_^).

Single Action Army has gone completely berserk, with the hero's
six shooter now merged with his body, a la. Tetsuo (the Body Hammer,
the films, I mean).

GSC #2 will be out on 22 Sep.  Also, I thought WAHHAMAN was funny
in this issue.  It now has some kind of embryonic plot, if I'm not
completely mistaken.


Afternoon, "manga to sell your soul for".  Too right!!  If you have
ten bucks allocated for food, rent or other fripperies, spend it on
Afternoon instead...
From: amelman@orion.oac.uci.edu (Wan Dabada)
Subject: KO Seiki manga in Dragon Comic (translation soon, I hope)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 29 Aug 92 07:11:32 GMT
Distribution: na

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    KO Seiki BEAST fans take heart!  As soon as I get my copy of Dragon
Comic, I will begin translating.  This is the manga story done by Takehiko
Itou, the creator, not Nakahara Rei, the mecha designer (whose manga appeared
in NORA Comics until 8/92)  This one promises to be good.  For those who
don't know, I am also in the process of translating the novel (which also
appeared in segments in Dragon Magazine from 1/92-6/92)

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From: ncc1701@madoka.its.rpi.edu (Mark O. Chadwick)
Subject: Re: Anyone interested in Ranma 1/2 GIFS ?
Reply-To: ncc1701@acm.rpi.edu
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:52:26 GMT

sprackle@rel8.ncsa.uiuc.edu (David Spracklen) writes:

>|> Hmm.  Anyone up for alt.binaries.pictures.anime?
>|> 			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y

>I can't seem to find alt.binaries.pictures or any other group that is similar.  Where
>can I find this kind of thing?

Many sites don't carry it due to the high volume of traffic.  (like mine)
There's PROBABLY an archive site somewhere, but I haven't any ideas
where and don't have a lot of time to play around with archie.

Anyone with a quick answer for us?

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From: tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Homosexuality in manga (was Re: help!!!
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:07:19 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <rec.arts.manga.UCS01MAILQUEUE-101.920827170127.416@ucs01.cfr.usf.edu> MCLARK@ucs01.cfr.usf.edu (Matthew Clark) writes:
>
>Methinks you misunderstood the question.  The question was: Why
>doesn't VIZ translate some shojo manga?  My "hormone filled teenage"
>comment was an observation about the AMERICAN audience and not the
>Japanese.

Yes, I DID misunderstand your posting and that's why I cancelled my
reply after re-reading your posting. But I guess it still reached
your site. Moushi wake arimasen.
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Subject: Manwha (was Re: bloodsword?)
From: tdunn@ecst.csuchico.edu (Tim Dunn)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 07:51:37 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico


Well, if this is the place (as opposed to rec.arts.comics) then I for one
am interested in the plotting for these works. I've always seen them at
cousins' houses, but being American-born, I'm kanji-impaired so all I could
do was look at the artwork and note that a story doesn't really intituitively
spring forth. I'd be happy to find out what I've been missing.

I picked up a few issues of the translated Jademan comics, but those were 
all Wong's stuff, and fairly poorly done. I was wondering how Mah's stuff
was better, plot wise. Thanks in advance.
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:51:05 -0400 
From: Chad Adam <ca25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Any new Shirow?

Well, I am in suspense.  Does anyone know when any new titles by Shirow
are due to come out in the US?  I've heard that one may be comming out
in September but I am not sure about the actual release date.

As I am new to this board I would like to say hello to everyone and hope
I have the time to contribute to the issues discussed here.


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(Gaia@Olympus.Appleseed) heh heh.....
From: tdunn@ecst.csuchico.edu (Tim Dunn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: New Translated Manga? Reviews Requested
Date: 26 Aug 92 03:26:00 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico

Just picked up the first four issues of Raika. Looks good. Anyone have
any warnings or tidbits to share about this translated manga?  It's from
Sun Comic Pub, a co. I've not heard of before. Have they done/are they 
doing anything else currently?

Also, on the back cover, they advertise for High School Agent, Ragnarok
Gay and Cosmos. Any info on these three would be appreciated.

Lastly, seeing as I'm in the cultural center of not much here, can some
kind soul clue me in to other new translated mangas that should be out
"real soon now"? Thanks in advance.
-- 
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From: ph111-dz@violet.berkeley.edu (david mou)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: bloodsword?
Date: 28 Aug 1992 18:44:41 GMT
Organization: a.b., s3x3, m.j., c.n.
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu

In article <BtpD2x.2s6@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mbvg9741@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Hmmm. . .) writes:
>
>Well, I've never read Japanese comics before, but a 
>friend (from Taiwan) said they were the only ones she
>read.  So, when i saw some issues of Blood sword and
>Blood sword Dynasty at my local used book shop i wondered
>if they were worth picking up.  Are they representative
>of "manga" at its best?  or just the opposite?
>
Well, "manga" is generally used for Japanese comics (taboo words if you say 
that some months ago).  But since there is no rec.arts.manhua, it's probably 
more appropriate to post here than 'that other place'.

Blood Sword and BSDynasty is part of Jademan Comics, based in Hong Kong and 
founded by the Ferrari driving, tax evading, and now jail interning Jademan 
Wong.  The BS/D comics are originally drawn by Mah Ron Chen (pronounced 
variably in Cantonese), who was IMHO the best Chinese comic artist and story
teller.  BS and BSD are in fact one story, BSD being the more recent portion
of the overall story.  Mr. Mah and his staffers (HK equivalent of Studio Loud
in School) worked on BS until he had a falling out with Brother Wong, who
according to legends sent gangsters to assult Mr. Mah in an empty parking lot.
According to Mr. Mah aftetwards, "I've been drawing martial comics all my life,
and none of it was of any use in real life."  Since then Mah and his brilliant
staff went on and started their own studio, and according to more legends got
backings from the Taiwanese Bamboo United Clan, and started a new series
"Under the Sky".  Brother Wong managed to find other artists to continue
Blood Sword, but by then the comic, IMHO, sucks the big one.  Mr. Mah's newest
project, "Wind and Cloud", happens to be one of the biggest comics in Taiwan
and Hong Kong.  It has some of the best looking cover arts of all the comics,
in the world.  I would like to describe that story for you, but that would be 
a loong story indeed.

Legends supplied by Bryce Y., who knows a lot of other shits as well.

>Forgive me if i used the terms wrong, like i said, i'm
>new to this field.

No problem.  We all read Ninja High School at some times before.  (^_^;;)


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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Vampire Hunter C)
Subject: Re: Homosexuality, shoujo manga, etc.
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 17:11:19 GMT

In article <axolotl.714456139@syzygy>, axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair) writes:
> 
> Conty writes:
>  >To tell the truth, most people here (college-age
>  >males) are not into shojo manga at all.  Their loss.  :-)
> 
> You mean rec.arts.manga?  This is a strange thing to say.  There
> are certainly a lot of "college-age male" shoujo manga readers on
> r.a.m, though the topic doesn't crop up as often as it could.

Glad to be proven wrong.  :-)

> When you say it's a "loss" that people don't read shoujo manga,
> are you referring to any titles in particular?

No.  But then again, I believe that people should try new
experiences.  I've seen some very good shojo stuff out there (sorry
I can't be more specific, I'm still learning about this stuff).

> BTW, please don't post noise about where r.a.m is, etc., go through
> the normal channels to change the FAQ.

Sorry.
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From: vchan@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Victor Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Taiho! (WAS: The Amazing World of Japanese Comics)
Keywords: Fujishima/Taihoshichauzo
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 00:34:23 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

chiu@ucsee.berkeley.edu writes:

- 
- Speaking of Taiho, for those of you who lives in the bay area Oakland Asian
- Library has vol. 1-5...

Actually, I just wanted to make sure (cause I ordered the set) that Taiho 
is a series of 7 books total, right?  Also, what's Ah! Megami-sama at 
right now?  And is it still continuing?
Thanks.

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From: msr@kepler.unh.edu (Mathew S Reno)
Subject: Ranma 1/2 (Viz)
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:49:09 GMT

I was curious, does anyone know why Viz changed from Color to black and
white half way through the Ranma series. Did it cost too much to color them
or was it because fans complained. Actually I kind of liked it better colored.
Also, since I just got back, has anyone heard about the status of Nausicaa?

Just wondering,

--Matt

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From: P0LU000 <P0LU@UNB.CA>
Subject: 3x3 Eyes Question
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:27:45 GMT

   The last encouraging news I've heard about this series was
that Dark Horse was looking into publishing them.  Has anyone
heard any more?  3x3 Eyes was not

   Thanks in advance.

Leslie Mills

"Let me be your hog!
 Let me be your hog now! (oink oink snort!)
 I said baby baby baby
 (screeching) BABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABY
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Vampire Hunter C)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Message from Jeniffer H. (Re: Homosexuality in Manga)
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:19:21 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories


This is a message from the lady who started the original thread over at
rec.arts.anime (I redirected the thread over to the appropriate newsgroup,
this one).

She's working on getting a Manga-L feed, and I offered to post this
message for her on the meantime:

[PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO ME.  USE THE ADDRESS IN THE MESSAGE]
[PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO ME.  USE THE ADDRESS IN THE MESSAGE]
[PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO ME.  USE THE ADDRESS IN THE MESSAGE]

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[header deleted]

I have been reading "From Eroica with Love".  Have you heard of it?
It's a very entertaining universe.  "Eroica" is a rather improbable
english earl "Dorian Red Gloria" who is a master thief.  Eroica
is obsessed with the very straight-laced, and very _straight_, Major
Klaus von dem Eberbach, a NATO officer (equally improbable).  It's
a lot of fun, and there are numerous fan-written stories, and some
zines, based in this universe.  The Eroica character is loosely based
on Robert Plant of Led Zeppelin.  He has sidekicks Mr. James (Jimmy Page)
and Bonham (John "Bonzo" Bonham) who are based on other Zep members.

The only other universe I have any experience of is Patalliro, an anime
show that I have only heard of.  However, I have read several stories that
are based on two characters from that show (BanCoran and Maraich).  The
title character, is a pain-in-the-ass young king from some unheard of country,
who is always messing up BanCoran's life.  BanCoran is an MI6 officer with
black hair down to his knees, and Maraich is his boy-lover who often dresses
in drag.  (He has also been a kept-harem-boy and an assasin (sp?).)

So I'm having lots of fun with this stuff and was looking for someone to talk
with about it over the net.  Unfortunately, I'm having only little luck.

[trailer deleted]

Jennifer     9105holl@ucsbvm.bitnet

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From: esum@sol.UVic.CA (Edmund Sum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: 3x3 Eyes Question
Date: 30 Aug 92 05:33:37 GMT
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, B.C. CANADA

In article <UBNAREHO.92Aug25174921@queen.mcs.Drexel.edu> ubnareho@mcs.Drexel.edu (Brian S. Narehood) writes:
>>>>>> On 25 Aug 92 20:27:45 GMT, P0LU@UNB.CA (P0LU000) said:
>
>Mills>    The last encouraging news I've heard about this series was
>Mills> that Dark Horse was looking into publishing them.  Has anyone
>Mills> heard any more?  3x3 Eyes was not
>
>   Well, you just happen to heard right, somewhat.
> 3x3 Eyes was published by Dark Horse.  It was a five
> (or was it six?) part mini-series, that ended I think
> 6 months ago.  I have been told that this mini-series
> did not even cover the first volume of the manga!!!
>
Published by Dark Horse?  Funny, my copy has Innovation written on top of
the comic book and it was translated by Studio Proteus.  Either way, I
hope some company picks it up to continue the series.  Even the OVA is
killing me with how #4 ends and there is no word on more.
Xref: sparky rec.arts.manga:857 alt.manga:2173
From: doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga,alt.manga
Subject: Re: Super Jump 15/1992 - Egawa Tatsuya's Golden Boy
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:53:12 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Japan, R&D center
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In article <Bu03Gp.B01@comspec.com>, mikem@comspec.com (Ragnarok) writes:
# Did anyone have a look at Egawa Tatsuya's amusing one-shot story in 
# Super Jump 15/1992 called "Golden Boy"?  The characters here are not
# too much different from "Magical Taru-ruuto-kun" but at least they're
# grown up.  Some of the casual comments on computers and computer
# languages in the story were interesting, but as usual it concludes
# in a highly implausible fashion.  Still, I can recommend it for
# Egawa fans looking for something a little different...

A grown up Iyona!!!
Is this available in any manga collection?

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From: michaele@nagisa.nsg.com.au (Michael Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: 3X3 eyes
Date: 29 Aug 92 14:14:31 GMT
Reply-To: michaele@nsg.nsg.com.au
Organization: Chamber Militant of the Ordo Malleus
X-Reality: Virtual
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In article <1992Aug26.203154.22364@ncsu.edu> 
jmkaraka@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN MARTIN KARAKASH) writes:
> 
> 	For fans looking for back issues of 3x3 Eyes, I believe the complete
> series will be coming out bundled together at a substantial savings.

Unless the only issue you are missing is number two...

Michael 
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:19:06 -0400 
From: Chad Adam <ca25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: rumor about Shirow

Gee I hope it's not true......I don't think life would be the same w/o
Shirow....I'd miss his Appleseed, M-66, and Dominion....
I at least hope, assuming the rumor is true, that they don't cancel the
upcomming works, Ghost in the Shell and Orion.  BTW, anyone know the
general timeframe that Ghost is supposed to arrive, could it be sometime
in spring 1993?  Personally, I can't
wait for Ghost.  I have seen it in Japanese, had this friend in high
school and it look awesome.   Shirow even included a fairly large,
around 25-30 pp of color art in this one...the art is of a well, I
wouldn't want to give it away.....  ;)  anyway, post back, I am in
suspense.....

Archfiend,  friend of Deunan and Briaeros........

	"We go back a long time..."
From: kchang@orion.oac.uci.edu (K_Shibuya)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Tamura Yumi (WAS: Re: Homosexuality, shoujo manga, etc.)
Date: 29 Aug 92 22:55:56 GMT
Organization: Cal-Animage Epsilon


In article <37325@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> ecovingt@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Maiko Covington) writes:

[Some comments about Shojo stuff deleted out]

>(3) A question: Does anyone know what titles Tamura Yumi is putting
>    out nowadays (or has put out before) besides the story "Tomoe ga
>    yuku"?

=>Yes, her current story now is BASARA, very good story too!! So far, there are
  5 compilations out. Read it. You'll love it! And there are others but it
  is not as good as Basara.

>
>	Maiko Covington		ecovingt@sdcc13.ucsd.edu
>
>
>
>

KC
kchang@orion.oac.uci.edu
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From: jmkaraka@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN MARTIN KARAKASH)
Subject: 3X3 eyes
Originator: jmkaraka@c00077-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jmkaraka@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN MARTIN KARAKASH)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:31:54 GMT


	For fans looking for back issues of 3x3 Eyes, I believe the complete
series will be coming out bundled together at a substantial savings.
	
	-john 'intergalactic bargain hunter extrodinaire' karakash-
From: ubnareho@mcs.Drexel.edu (Brian S. Narehood)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: 3x3 Eyes Question
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:49:21 GMT
Organization: Drexel University

>>>>> On 25 Aug 92 20:27:45 GMT, P0LU@UNB.CA (P0LU000) said:


Mills>    The last encouraging news I've heard about this series was
Mills> that Dark Horse was looking into publishing them.  Has anyone
Mills> heard any more?  3x3 Eyes was not

Mills>    Thanks in advance.

   Well, you just happen to heard right, somewhat.
 3x3 Eyes was published by Dark Horse.  It was a five
 (or was it six?) part mini-series, that ended I think
 6 months ago.  I have been told that this mini-series
 did not even cover the first volume of the manga!!!

   I beleive that they discontinued this series, since
 it was not very popular, here in the US.  I mean, I real
 had to scrange(sp?) to get the complete mini-series when it
 first came out.  I went to my favorate comic shops weekly,
 and still missed 2 of the issues.  It took forever to locate
 a place that had the back issues!!!

   I wish they would do the entire series, since i liked
 the story, and it had some very good art work in it.

   I hope this helps you out.

                           Brian S. Narehood
                           ubnareho@mcs.drexel.edu


    
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