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From: hgp@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (howard.page)
Subject: Re: kitplanes (high compression engines + mogas, really)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:47:47 GMT


For those of you that have "high compression" airplane engines
and wish to use mogas:

I spoke to Todd Pererson several days ago about mogas STC's. He said

	- my Archer with an O-360 and requires 91/96 octane fuel
	  ('seen that lately?) can get a mogas STC. It cost $475
	  and includes a new fuel pump, among other things, to
	  prevent vapor lock. The STC specifies that I have to
	  use premium 91 octane ((motor+research)/2) auto fuel.

	- An mogas STC for a friend's Baron with IO-470 engines
	  includes a water injection system and costs $7K!!!

Interesting, eh?

Howard
From: ark@alice.att.com (Andrew Koenig)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
Subject: Re: Unsolved mysteries
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:27:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.22608
Reply-To: ark@alice.UUCP ()
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Liberty Corner NJ

In article <1992Apr15.220901.20501@zehntel.com> steveg@zehntel (Steve Gallagher) writes:

> 	When I was a kid (early 60's), growing up in the Palo Alto area,
> my brother and I used to scan the AM band listening to various stations.
> At the low end of the band, actually below 540 KHz, we used to pick up a
> Morse code identifier. Not knowing what it was, we decided it must be an
> SOS from a sinking ship. 

The Chatham (NJ) NDB is at 254 kHz.  If you drive near it, you can
probably pick up its second harmonic at 508 kHz.
-- 
				--Andrew Koenig
				  ark@europa.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: Horse-sitters (was Re: Horse keeping costs)
From: sbishop@desire.wright.edu
Date: 7 Apr 92 06:22:05 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

In article <15240037@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM>, kyle@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Kyle Karnosh) writes:
> / hpspdla:rec.equestrian / fax0616@uoft02.utoledo.edu /  7:13 am  Apr  1, 1992 /
> Leigh Casey writes:
> 
>   $68.75  25 bales of hay ($2.75 for alfalfa/clover/timothy mix)
> 			   ^^^^^
> 
> 
> 
> I wish!! Our hay here in Northern CA runs at least 2.5 times that.
> I don't suppose these are miniture bales either :-)
> 
> 

	Now I am going to make you all feel bad, here in fertile green
southwestern Ohio, I can get second and third cutting alfalfa, delivered
and stacked in my barn for around $2.00 a bale.

	Of course it helps to live in the country, have a neighbor who
sells hay for a living and be a 'preferred and regular' customer.

Sue
> Kyle Karnosh
> Con Brio Farms
> Quality Warmblood Sporthorses
> Gilroy, CA
From: SASDBK@vm.sas.com
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: fly parasites
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:44:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: vm.92098.144448SASDBK
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.

I am always trying to find ways to beat the bugs and have noticed
several ads for fly parasites. Even though one ad said approx $12
for up to 5 horses, after talking to them, it was really $217 for
9 shipments plus a solar fly trap. If I knew it would significantly
reduce flys, I might invest that much. Has anyone tried this
method? My horse/donkeys (4) come and go freely from their stalls
to their pasture. I understand that you place the fly parasite larvae
in several moist places (manure pile, watering area, etc.).
But, with my herd coming and going, will it even make sense to
locate these insects around the barn area?
Will the flys from the pasture follow them back to the barn?
One salesperson claimed that the Kentucky Derby facilities used this
method and "had no fly problem".
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: bechtler@asdg.dec.com (Laurie Bechtler)
Subject: where are horse shows advertised? 
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 15 APR 92 12:49:45    




I don't own a horse but have always loved them.  I recently moved
to Massachusetts, and I would like to find out when and where some
horse shows are within 90 miles or so of Marlboro.  Do tack shops
have bulletin boards with this type of announcement?  (Next
question is where are the tack shops locally?)

I don't subscribe to anything horsey...and there probably isn't
any one publication that covers all the shows, dressage, hunter/
jumper, breed shows, county fairs.  

Any suggestions?  Thanks.

From: kyle@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Kyle Karnosh)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:34:23 GMT
Subject: Re: Horse-sitters (was Re: Horse keeping costs)
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian

/ hpspdla:rec.equestrian / hannah@pomponio.ai.sri.com (Marsha Jo Hannah) / 10:36 am  Apr  2, 1992 /
Marsha writes:

>This is the only major drawback that I've found to keeping my equines
>at home (which is admittedly somewhat off the beaten track).  Finding
>a "critter-sitter" when we leave is such a pain that my husband and I
>have taken mostly separate vacations since we acquired equines! 

I'm glad I'm not the only one!! I don't think Tim and I have been on a
vacation together in years! Well, at least not a long one.

We used to have the daughter of a nearby breeder friend horse-sit

for us and she was great. Unfortunately they moved and I spent

quite a while looking for another sitter. After trying a few

I've found on who works at a local tack shop that I think will

work out well.(You have to feel good about the person you leave

your beasts with, or you'll spend your vacation worrying)


I've typically paid $15 to $20 a day for hay and grain for all the
horses on the farm.  



Kyle Karnosh
Con Brio Farms
Quality Warmblood Sporthorses
Gilroy, CA
From: A20BAF1@NIU.bitnet (Bernadette Feyerharm)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Nicknames for Co Kay Sem
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:48:37 GMT
Organization: BBN news/mail gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: news.bbn.com

Roberta,
  How about Katie or Cookie for Co Kay Sem?  She sounds like a real
sweetie!!!!  Have a wonderful time! ;-)

Bernadette
Baby -- She came with this nickname and since I tend to call every
        thing Baby or Babyface, or some such goo, it fit wonderfully.
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: hbohaker@student.business.uwo.ca (Heidi R. Bohaker)
Subject: re: riding in Russia (Moscow)
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:18:34 GMT

Kitty,
     There is apparently a livery stable in Gorky Park, Moscow.  I was there in
January 1990, and my Muscovite friend, when he found out that I was a horse
nut, told me about this stable in Gorky Park where you could rent a horse & go
riding for an hour (but it was only open in the summer; I guess the horses 
went elsewhere for the winter).

     I haven't managed to go back, as planned, so I don't know if the stable is
still there...

     Your father will have a wonderful time.  Moscow is a beautiful city, even
in the winter. 

	Heidi

hbohaker@student.business.uwo.ca (Heidi R. Bohaker)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
From: plymate@noao.tuc.noao.edu (Claude Plymate)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: info only
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:48:58 GMT
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson AZ

Just some interesting stuff I read today:

  I was reading the March Quarter Horse Journal at the U of Az
library today when I came across an article on interstate horse
trailering companies.  It has info on what the regulations are,
and has a really good list of questions to ask a trucking
company when you talk to them at the end of the article.  Also
in that issue was a study of foals and OCD, and the test seemed
to say that EXERCISE is more important to avoid OCD in foals
than feed.  There were 3 groups- one was given high-energy
feed and were exercised.  Group two were given a balanced
ration and exercised.  Group 3 were given a balanced ration 
and were not forced to exercise.  Group 3 had the most OCD of
the three.  Only one foal was completely clean of any lesions,
and he was from group 1.  But they still recommend avoiding
the high-growth, overly rich food.  I thought it was interesting,
that's why I shared it with y'all.  There was another article
in there I only skimmed (out of time), that points to a link
of OCD and Wobbler syndrome.  I'll have to check it out!

				Teresa


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From: kyle@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Kyle Karnosh)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: dressage saddles
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:04:20 GMT
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA

/ hpspdla:rec.equestrian / regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) /  3:38 pm  Apr 15, 1992 /

>find one used that was still in good condition.  I didn't like Stubben (too
>flat) or Passier (too hard)

As a point of interest, whether this is true or not may depend on
when the Passier was made. The old ones are supposedly good and the
newer ones after 1984 or so are nice, but inbetween there was a 
period where Passier used a really hard tree. This gave them a bit
of a bad reputation for a while. They remedied that by coming out with
a new tree when they started the PSL series. So, when looking at a
Passier when it was made and what type of tree matters quite a bit.
I don't know if the tree varies between the differnt models or not.
I have one of the newer PSL Dressage saddles( bought before they became
so bloody expensive)  and have no complaints.

Kyle Karnosh
Con Brio Farms
Quality Warmblood Sporthorses
Gilroy, CA
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullivan)
Subject: fun ride and HI TECH STIRRUPS
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:34:12 GMT

I just had a really fun ride this morning on my new horse (1 week)
She is a Quarter/Morgan cross, 6 years and very tall and stocky.
She seems really spook-proof on the trail, goes up and down
anything, crosses water, goes through brush, etc.  We need a lot of
work at home on things like kids on trikes, being hosed off,
wheelbarrows going by, but she really seems to learn fast.

Anyway, we found the neatest trail.  After walking and trotting the
first five miles, we turn off of this soft trail that is basically
uphill.  At every level spot there is a creek, and then the trail
goes uphill.  So we cantered the whole way, jumping every creek, and
at the end had a really great hill to race up.  Then, on the way
down the loop I got off and jogged, and just let Cinnabar loose.
She just stayed with the other horse.

The other thing that made the ride so great is that last week I
ordered some HI TECH endurance stirrups with toe-guards.  They are
wonderful-absorb shock and flex when you post, and are safe enough I
can wear running shoes.  They are made by HI TECH and I ordered them
from Sportack in Orinda.  They were $78 with shipping (ouch) but
well worth every penny.  They can be used English or Western.
We did about 25 miles Friday, 10 Saturday and probably 10 today and
there is no way my knee would have made it without those stirrups.

This mare is in pretty good shape-she had been ridden regularly the
past several months.  Now I just need a new saddle (hoping to get a
Wintec endurance) and shoes on the horse Friday and we will be all
set.

Karen
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: Horse keeping costs)
From: sbishop@desire.wright.edu
Date: 8 Apr 92 06:19:01 EST
 <1992Apr7.062205.809@desire.wright.edu> <HANNAH.92Apr7093556@pomponio.ai.sri.com>
Organization: Wright State University 

In article <HANNAH.92Apr7093556@pomponio.ai.sri.com>, hannah@pomponio.ai.sri.com (Marsha Jo Hannah) writes:
> In article <1992Apr7.062205.809@desire.wright.edu> sbishop@desire.wright.edu writes:
> 
>    In article <15240037@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM>, kyle@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Kyle Karnosh) writes:
>    > / hpspdla:rec.equestrian / fax0616@uoft02.utoledo.edu /  7:13 am  Apr  1, 1992 /
>    > Leigh Casey writes:
>    > 
>    >   $68.75  25 bales of hay ($2.75 for alfalfa/clover/timothy mix)
>    > 			   ^^^^^
>    > I wish!! Our hay here in Northern CA runs at least 2.5 times that.
>    > I don't suppose these are miniture bales either :-)
>    > 
> 	   Now I am going to make you all feel bad, here in fertile green
>    southwestern Ohio, I can get second and third cutting alfalfa, delivered
>    and stacked in my barn for around $2.00 a bale.
> 
> PLEASE, folks, when you post prices like this, quantify what
> constitutes a BALE in your area!!!  I know that a Northern California
> (3-wire) bale of alfalfa weighs around 150 lb, and I know that a
> Wyoming (2-string) bale of grass hay weighs around 50 lb, but I
> haven't a clue as to what passes for a bale in Ohio.  What do they
> weigh (or, equivalently, how many bales do you get when you buy a ton
> of hay)?  It makes a heck of a difference in figuring costs!
> 
> Marsha Jo Hannah		Murphy must have been a horseman--
> La Honda, CA			anything that can go wrong, will!

That's right, Marsha, I'm not used to the western bales, we only have
the 50 and 50 plus ones around here.  Although I have bought alfalfa
wire wrapped that weighs at least 80 pounds.

Sue
Organization: University Libraries - Technical Service, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:31:16 -0400 
From: Ruthann Schmidt <rs57+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Best Pal's foot

The horse (TB) that won Saturday's Oaklawn Handicap, Best Pal, raced
with a slight problem with one of his hooves/feet. I don't quite
understand what was said about the problem & hope someone on the net can
explain. Please, no flames about whether Best Pal should have raced.

During a workout the week of the race, Best Pal picked up a stone that
must have gotten wedged in his foot so that it couldn't be removed. The
trainer said that what would happen would be that the stone would
eventually work its way UPWARD, & pop out at the coronet band. Since the
hoof grows out in a downward direction, how does the stone work its way
UP? Or do stones get lodged in the soft tissues of the foot & work
upward that way? Sorry I don't have more info. I'm not a horse owner
yet, & I haven't heard of this problem before. Thanx.

Ruth Ann
From: doconnor@oxygen.inews.intel.com (Dennis O'Connor)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: Impressives
Date: 11 Apr 92 06:53:15 GMT
Organization: /eng/eng25/doconnor/.organization
In-reply-to: BECKY@hcacad.holycross.edu's message of 1 Apr 92 14:56:50 GMT


BECKY@hcacad.holycross.edu writes:
]
] Correct me if I am wrong, and I am sure some of you will,
] that impressive syndrome sounds to me like there was a 
] little to much in breeding.

It could just be an unfortunate dominant mutation. The test would
be to fine some full-siblings of Impressive ( as many as possible )
and see if any of them carry it.
--
Dennis O'Connor			doconnor@sedona.intel.com
From: alanmoore@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Boarding near Ft. Wayne
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:04:49 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

Does anyone know where my girlfriend could keep her horse for two weeks
(starting on the 20th) around Ft Wayne, Indiana?  She is in Richmond Indiana
right now, but GTE, in their infinite wisdom, is sending her whole office to
Ft. Wayne, for training for two weeks,  and she has an endurance ride the
weekend after her training.  If anyone knows of a place, please e-mail
alanmoore@yang.earlham.edu, or call me at (317)935-1058 (home) or (317)983-1437
(work), or call Lesa at (317)478-5532.

Thanks,
Alan Moore
alanmoore@yang.earlham.edu
From: SWIND@clemson.clemson.edu
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: re:stubborn saddlebred
Date: 10 Apr 1992 08:43:36 -0400
Organization: BBN news/mail gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: news.bbn.com

Jase,
I used to have a saddlebred that was a lot like yours.
And to top it all off, he was also ring sour! I had tried riding
him in a snaffle, in a curb, in a pelham, in a tom thumb, all to
no avail. He had a mouth of cast iron! Then I discovered the
trick, a mechanical hack. I put the hackamore on his bridle and
then put the snaffle in his mouth and hooked it to the hack
with double snaps. The bit wasn't doing anything, but it was
still there, so he didn't forget about it. I did a lot of
ground work with him around the barn before we hit the
trails. But when we did get out in the open, I was
riding a brand new horse! After a while, maybe 4 or 5
weeks, I was able to ride him in either the hack or a
snaffle with no more problems. He was such a wonderful
mover and we developed a real good relationship!
Unfortunately, I lost him a year later. He got out of
his pasture and took a run down the road one night. The
only good part was, that he never knew what happened.
Sorry, but I really do still miss Stormy, and it's been
10 years.
Good luck !
                            Stephanie Wind
From: bjpeter@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Brian Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: domestication of horses before metal working
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:53:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Great Beyond

I was talking to a friend of mine about how Commander developed
a large crack in his hoof.  It required special care, including
careful shoeing to help him recover.

  We were wondering, what
could people do to help a split hoof before metal shoes?
What did native Americans do?  We were also wondering what did
the Mongolian's do when Ghangus Kahn swept over their continent,
riding their horses?  If the horse was their means of life {basically},
what therapy did they have?

If anyone could offer me reliable references on these questions,
I sure would appreciate it.  Thanks in advance.  Brian
From: afallen@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (E. Allen Arrington)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: horse keeping costs
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:46:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: lims02.14APR199212461715
Organization: 1st Kentucky Cavalry Co. C
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr13.132645.6954@uoft02.utoledo.edu>, fax0616@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes...
> 
>My mares will waste hay when ovefed.  A flake is about all either one will eat
>and they waste some of that.  The geldings will vacuum up every last drop.
>I don't have an explanation for this one.
> 
>Leigh
> 
This must just depend on the horse and not so much the gender; our mare, 
Dixie,
with eat every last scrap of hay and does not waste any time doing so; 
Mason (gelding) on the other hand likes to spread his hay around (some in this
 corner
some in that corner, in the grain bin, water bucket, behind his ears) then 
he eats every scrap.  I guess they just have different ways of enjoying 
their dinners.

E. Allen Arrington  
        Trooper, 1st Kentucky Cavalry, Co. C 
        Mounted Memorial Unit                 
and Mason (a darn good cavalry horse)
From: grass@ulysses.att.com (Judith Grass)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: Keeping a horse from taking off bandages
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:05:09 GMT
Reply-To: grass@ulysses.att.com
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill

Try rubbing red pepper (cayenne) into the bandages when you put them on.
I keep a can in my tack trunk for just this purpose.  The horse will
probably try to bite at the bandages just about once.

		-- Judy Grass 
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: PBLANCH@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Shipping info request
Organization: Yale University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 19:36:21 EDT

 Does anyone out there have any experience with commercial horse
transportation companies?  I need to have my horse transported from
Connecticut to California, and would appreciate any advice on shippers.
 
  Thanks.
      - Paddy Blanchette
From: rewald@scivax.stsci.edu
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Equine Heart Monitors?
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:59:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute

Hi -
   I am looking into buying an equine heart monitor to help me condition/train 
my horse for long-distance rides.
   It seems that there are a couple of general types, one is VMAX and I
don't remember what the other one is called.  Does anyone out there use
heart monitors?  What do you think of them?  What are the pro's and con's of
the different types?
   If you e-mail, I will post a summary in a week or two.  Otherwise, I
guess there may be others in the net who would like to know about these
devices.  I am also calling dealers to see what they have to say; I'll
include their input in the summary too.

    On a slightly related note, I should be getting my Ortho-Flex saddle
next week sometime!  Thanks to the folks who helped me in deciding about this
over the winter.
                          Rosalie & Shogun
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: fks@vax.ftp.com  (Frances K. Selkirk)
Subject: Re: begining riders and horses
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Reply-To: fks@ftp.com
Organization: FTP Software, Inc., Wakefield, MA
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 11:14:42

In article <1992Apr6.031635.25314@midway.uchicago.edu> rivk@quads.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis) writes:

    *right*. I learned to ride partially on a horse named J.C., who was an
    absolute doll (as well as one of the prettiest blue roans I've ever
    seen), but he worked like a machine, doing exactly what you told him

Blue roans are so pretty! I've only seen a few of them, but I've Ooo -ed
at every one! What breeds have that colouration? 


--
Frances Kirk Selkirk		 fks@ftp.com	           (617) 246-0900

Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: jpenovic@wizard.Berkeley.EDU (Jan Penovich)
Subject: A barn brag (I just gotta do it)
Reply-To: jpenovic@encore.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 12:41:46 GMT

I couldn't hold it back anymore.  I just have to brag about
one of our barn's horse/rider combinations and one of our horses.

Amy Foster took her horse to the Winter Equestrian Festival
in West Palm Beach and Tampa.  She took several ribbons in
Junior Jumper at West Palm (Wellington) and reserve Champion
at Tampa.

Risky (I don't know her registered name), a thorobred at our barn,
was shown in the hunter divisions at WP and Tampa.  Margie
Goldstein was riding her in WP (until Margie got hurt).
Risky also took a reserve in one of the hunter divisions in Tampa.

Amy is a terrific junior rider who's been riding since she was very
small (she used to ride my Pooka when she was five years old).

I may be wrong, but I think that these were her first circuit shows.  
Pretty good, huh?!

jan
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From: faithz@sco.COM (Mob Psychologist)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: New horse, and new twist on the Name Game
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 21:25:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.


In article <1992Apr6.142841.1256@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> rlt@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (R.L.Taylor KB2OOA) writes:
>Okay, we've had lots of creative suggestions for names;  anybody
>good at taking a weird registered name,and coming up with a barn
>name?  In this case, we're talking about a TB mare named Co Kay Sem.
>She's a big bay with only a tiny bit of white on her face.  And I
>haven't a clue what to call her...
>

How about Cookie (with or without Monster appended)?
Or just Kay?

-faithz
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