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Subject: Re: DV/X and DJGPP Xlibraries--locations 
Distribution: world
Organization: Rundart Limited
Reply-To: gt@rundart.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.18)
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 04:01:06 +0000


In article <1992Nov06.204154.209@qdeck.com> garyrich@qdeck.com writes:

>I did and archie search last night ant turned up the following sites
>for the 1.01 libraries.  We're still hoping to get them available again
>from barnacle.erc.clarkson.edu (especially since that's what our ads
>say :-[, but hasn't happened yet.
>
>Wayne, and eveyone else:  We at qdeck would love it if you would send
>all your public domain DVX ports or better yet, original DVX apps to us.
>Send them to me (garyrich@qdeck.com) or to tech support (support@qdeck.com)
>and we will put them on our bbs, post them to comp.binaries.pcarchives, show
>them to people at tradeshows; and otherwise spread your fame far and wide.
>Speaking of fame, Tom Pierpoint's port of Xview 2.21 is still the qoolest
>thing that's been sent in from outside qdeck, IMHO.  Let his name resound
>thoughout the net!

Please feel free to use ftp.demon.co.uk as a UK distribution site. 
Upload your files to "/incoming" and send a message to
"uploads@demon.co.uk".  Your mail message will be used (unedited) as a
"readme" file in the directory where your software ends up so please
make sure that it says what you want to be seen by downloaders.

Giles.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: cperkins@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Carol Perkins)
Subject: DVX on Amstrad PC 1386
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:44:27 GMT

I can not get DVX to work on an Amstrad PC 1386 with Stacker loaded.  I got
the new sswap and other files for QEMM from CompuServe.  The BIOS is dated
1988.  Any suggestions?

Thanks
From: hm@risc3.mi.Uni-Koeln.DE (Harald Mika)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: TCP/IP unknown user
Date: 11 Nov 1992 12:34:50 GMT
Organization: Institute for Mathematics, University of Cologne, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: risc3.mi.uni-koeln.de
Keywords: TCP/IP unknown user

HI,

what does it mean :

hm@risc3 549>rsh zoltan -l zoltan dos
Remote program successfully started.
hm@risc3 550>rsh zoltan -l zoltan dos
Remote program successfully started.
hm@risc3 551>rsh zoltan -l zoltan dos
Access Denied.  'zoltan' is an unknown user.       <------
hm@risc3 552>rsh zoltan -l zoltan dos
Access Denied.  'zoltan' is an unknown user.       <------

As you see two times 'zoltan' is a well known user, but not a third time? 
Any ideas .... ? 

Harald


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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:39:38 -0500 
From: Matthew Edward Patton <mp52+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: problems with "`" and "~"
Distribution: comp

Also you might want to look into a new version of the window Manager. 
Seems the original one masked/hid those keys in xterms.  Other keys that
wouldn't work were Ctr-S.  The new/updated WM.EXE fixed all that.

Good luck

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2.  Any given program costs more and takes longer than planned and budgeted.

3.  Inside every large program is a small program struggling to get out.

4.  Program complexity grows until it exceeds the capability of the
programmer who must
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5.  At the source of every error which is blamed on the computer, you
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (George Jetson)
Subject: Re: loading disk caches high 
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 14:53:49 GMT

In article <721194827snz@rundart.demon.co.uk> gt@rundart.demon.co.uk writes:
>
>>IMHO, HyperDisk (the only cache I have ever tried) does not work well
>>loaded high.  When I did so, I had unexplained crashes until I moved it
>>out of high memory.  It takes up 24K of conv ram, but that's not too big
>>of a deal...
>
>You don't give a version number.  Not fair for such a blanket comment. 
>The problem may have been fixed since the version you used but you have
>have just suggested to all the readers of this newsgroup that the
>product will not work when loaded high without giving any qualification.

It is version 4.31.

I did include an IMHO.  Maybe I should also have included a
"Your mileage will vary"...

All I was trying to do was counter the suggestion by the Qdeck guy that
the original poster was crazy.  Clearly, there are problems associated
with loading disk caches high.  Equally clearly, under certain
conditions (such as, apparently, those under which you are operating)
those problems may never surface.

To be fair, it should be added that there are, potentially, problems
with loading any piece of software high, since you are clearly running
it in an environment different from that intended by the original
manufacturer, and are thus, as they say, "on your own".

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: alheid@sedist.cray.com (Greg Alheid)
Subject: Re: Desqview for $100 before Dec. 31, 1992, is this true?
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:36:23 CST

In article <Bx9AuG.C6s@cs.uiuc.edu>, chiang@cs.uiuc.edu (Sam. H.K. Chiang) writes:
|> The most recent issue of PC Magazine has an article comparing Windows 3.1 and
|> OS2 2.0.  Also, it reviews the alternative OS, desqview/X, and said its price
|> is $100 if you order before Dec. 31, 1992.  
|> 
|> Is this true?
|> 

   I think it stated that any one who  > OWNS <     > any Quarterdeck product <
                                        ^^^^
can get DESQview/x for $100. The Network Manager for TCP/IP is additional $100. 
So yes it is true for a selected group. But anyone can buy any Quarterdeck product 
then get a $100 discount from Quarterdeck on DESQview/X or if there is an Egghead 
Software near you can get either DESQview/X with the TCP/IP Network Manager $199. 

|>
|> Sorry for fogetting the exact page showing this price.  I'll look it up
|> later on.
|> 
|> -- 
|> 
|> 
|> +---------------------------------------------------------+
|> + Sam. H.K. Chiang					  +

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: rayb@elmer.dev.cdx.mot.com (Ray Bowden)
Subject: X over a dial up
Organization: Motorola Codex, Canton, MA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:09:16 GMT

I hope this is not a FAQ, but I read about DESQview/X
in the November 10th issue of PC magazine, and wondered
what it would take to use DESQview/X as an X terminal
dialing up an UNIX machine through a SLIP or PPP dialin
port.

I read the posting discussing what layers DVX needs to
operate.  We have the KA9Q package of packet drivers
which would allow us to make the layer 1 and 2 connection.
If we bought PCTCP and DVX with the network option, could
we use a PC as an X terminal talking to a UNIX machine
over a modem?

We've looked at getting linux and Xfree386, but sounds
like overkill when all we really want is an X terminal
emulator.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Ray Bowden
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: dmurdoch@mast.queensu.ca (Duncan Murdoch)
Subject: Re: Street prices for DesqView/X
Organization: Queen's University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:43:12 GMT

In article <Bxnrt4.Fyq@world.std.com> aml@world.std.com (Andrew M Langmead) writes:
>
>Many vendors put a notice on their packages stating "not for export"
>(At least on american versions of their products that I see in
>retail stores.) Some have valid reasons (Norton Utilties has DES 
>encryption, which has some sort of State Department regulations
>about exporting.) Some I am almost sure is because the company
>wants to sell other versions (often copy protected) outside the
>USA. 

In other cases companies license distribution of the package to someone else 
in the foreign country; distributing directly would be a violation of their 
license agreement.  

Duncan Murdoch
dmurdoch@mast.queensu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: ted@dgbt.doc.ca (Ted Grusec)
Subject: Re: Qemm(ems)&dv.
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 13:22:01 GMT

In article <61.2B03050C@btnbbs.UUCP> Sammy@btnbbs.UUCP (Sammy) writes:
>Mabye it's me doing something wrong, but..
>
>Both my bios and dos5's mem.exe report 1280k of "contiguous" extended memory, but when I load QEMM, that number drops to about 800k. I loaded EMS40.SYS from Pc magazine, and managed to get the entire 1280k of EMS. But, desqview wouldn't run.  Do I need a new version of DV?  I have dv 2.32 and qemm 5.12.
>

Maybe you do. I have qemm 6.02 and DV 2.42 and have no memory
problems, expecially using the stealth parameter.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich)
Subject: Re: Graphics programs under DV
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Distribution: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:52:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.074153.2401@sol.UVic.CA> jdboer@sol.UVic.CA (Johan deBoer) writes:
>Hi,
>I have been using DesqView for some time now, and am wondering about
>the use of graphics programs under DV. Everytime when I have say
>Freelance or some other program running in graphics mode, the screen
>goes out of wack whenever I call up the DV menu.
>Am I using improper settings somewhere, or is this unavoidable?
>

This is unavoidable if, and only if, the graphics program is running in a 
non standard (SVGA) mode.  If the app runs 640x480 16 colors, it should not
do this.

Gary Rich		<support@qdeck.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (George Jetson)
Subject: Re: loading disk caches high
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:55:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov06.205812.383@qdeck.com> garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich) writes:
>In article <1dc862INNbev@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> michael@ecst.csuchico.edu (Michael Perelman) writes:
>>Is there a disk cache program that qemm can safely load in high memory?

>???
>	There isn't one we can't load high that Ive ever seen.  The only

IMHO, HyperDisk (the only cache I have ever tried) does not work well
loaded high.  When I did so, I had unexplained crashes until I moved it
out of high memory.  It takes up 24K of conv ram, but that's not too big
of a deal...

************************************************************************
A note to new readers:  the weasely :-) symbol is frowned upon in this
group.  Any questions, see Phil Gustafson who will gladly rearrange your
diodes for you.
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	- pynq@quads.uchicago.edu, who is still costing the net
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: burge@qdeck.com (Bill Burge)
Subject: Re: Tapedrives under DesqView
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 16:51:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct31.213040.1690@panix.com> bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman) writes:
>Can anyone reccommend a tapedrive that works inside a DV
>window. I've got an old Sysgen that supports file locking
>and "wait-until-file-closes" for network operation, but it
>just runs forever under DV.
>
>I'm also interested in finding out how well Central Point backup gets
>along with DV, as most low-end, floppy controller tape drives come with
>CP as their control software.
>
>Finally, I'd like to hear from anyone using a SCSI tape
>drive with tar or cpio under DOS/MKS ToolKit.
>

CP backup can NOT be run inside of DV.  THey do some very nasty things
with interrupts that cause DV (and multitasking in general) to fail.

There has been RUMOR that Colorado tape backup software is attempting
to create a tape software that will run in DV.  We have tested it as 
of yet.

Bill	burge@qdeck.com




Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: cp79054@csie.nctu.edu.tw (HuangWeiChen)
Subject: about postscript on DVX
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:05:46 GMT

Hi! Netguys !
  I have a question about if DV/X support postscript 
like openwin of sun ?

Thanks a lot .
 
                          Sincerely Your!

mailing address : cp79054@ccsun1.csie.nctu.edu.tw

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: pml@cajun18.cacs.usl.edu (Patrick M. Landry)
Subject: Help with DVX needed
Organization: The Center for Advanced Computer Studies
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:19:54 GMT


I have got DVX running on my PC (sorta). My current problem is that 
after opening up one remote xterm any subsequent requests to open
windows from a remote process gets the error message
	Error: Can't Open display
Rather non-descript.

I am running PC/TCP 2.05 pl4 PPP version. DVX.EXE is dated in may of 1992
I have 20 megabytes of memory in the machine. Before stating DVX I have > 500K
available below 640. t the time I get the error messages I have
> 14 meg of expanded memory. 

I am sure that more details will be needed. Just let me know what.
What I am really looking for is some general tips. I am not a dos person.
thanks
--
patrick
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller)
Subject: Do I need a Desqview upgrade?
Organization: Trinity College, Hartford, CT.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:47:58 GMT


I'm running Desqview 2.31 and QEMM 5.11.  No problems.
But progress is progress: am I missing anything impor-
tant?

Norman  Miller
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: jamie@vax.ftp.com  (Jamie O'Keefe)
Subject: Re: DV/X and MS LanMan TCP/IP stack - when?
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Keywords: TCP/IP, LM/X, HP9000
Organization: FTP Software, Inc., Wakefield, MA
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 11:36:34

In article <geoffr.720730318@sfu.ca> geoffr@fraser.sfu.ca (Geoff Routledge) writes:

  I was talking to a couple of DV support guys at Interop about the
  possibility of using DV/X on top of the LanMan TCP/IP stack.  The
  response I got was "It will probably happen, just have to to the
  port."  It would be very nice to be able to use my PC net at the
  same time as using DV/X, which is impossible at the moment without
  a reboot.  We need to have TCP/IP loaded with LanMan because we use
  an HP9000 as the LanMan server (with HP's LanMan/X) which precludes
  having another TCP/IP stack (say Lan Workplace) loaded at the same
  time.
  
Actually using LM/X does not stop you from using another TCP/IP stack
with DV/X.  However, the TCP/IP stack you use must have an RFC
1001/1002 complient netbios that you can run Lan Manager over.  I
know we have such a situation set up here.  I believe that the other
TCP/IP vendors that DV/X supports also have an RFC 1001/1002
complient netbios.  

jamie
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From: fauerbac@ivy.cs.unca.edu (John Fauerbach)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Re: Help with DVX needed
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:04:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Nov10.160445.15337
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

pml@cajun18.cacs.usl.edu (Patrick M. Landry) writes:
: 
: I have got DVX running on my PC (sorta). My current problem is that 
: after opening up one remote xterm any subsequent requests to open
: windows from a remote process gets the error message
: 	Error: Can't Open display
: Rather non-descript.
: 
: I am running PC/TCP 2.05 pl4 PPP version. DVX.EXE is dated in may of 1992
: I have 20 megabytes of memory in the machine. Before stating DVX I have > 500K
: available below 640. t the time I get the error messages I have
: > 14 meg of expanded memory. 
: 
: I am sure that more details will be needed. Just let me know what.
: What I am really looking for is some general tips. I am not a dos person.
: thanks
: --
: patrick
After opening up your xterm window, check your DISPLAY variable.  It needs to 
be set back to your PC.

John
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: pmh2962@tamsun.tamu.edu (Pat Hayes)
Subject: El-cheapo DV/X -to- other X setup?  Thanks!
Organization: Meteorology, TAMU, CS, TX
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:45:18 GMT

Howdy!
	Just have to ask ... we'd like to connect some PC's to our Sunstations,
but don't have much $$$.  Does anyone have DV/X-to-other-X running using some
version of S/W, PD TCP/IP (like CUTCP, or ??).Thanks! 
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From: mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (mike batchelor)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: QDDVX Update available at batpad
Date: 12 Nov 92 05:28:32 GMT
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

The update file q100-101.zip for the GNU C DESQview/X Toolkit is
available on the archive server at batpad.lgb.ca.us.  This archive
contains only those files needed to update an installation of QDDVX
1.00 to 1.01.  Unpack it with pkunzip -d -o  to implement the upgrade.

To request this file from the archive server, send a message to

mailserv@batpad.lgb.ca.us

The body of the message should contain the following command:

get q100-101.zip uue

        (or xxe for XXencoding)

Please ensure that the From: line on your outgoing request is a good
address, as this is where the mailserv will send the file.  The .zip
file is approximately 260K in size.

The complete qddvx101.zip file, and the complete DJGPP 2.2.2
development environment are available via modem at 310-494-1024.

login: qddvx
password: gnuc

This account has five hours per day, and can only download files from
the Quarterdeck directory on the batpad.  When the five hours are used
up, you must wait until the next day.  The login dumps you directly
into the correct directory to find these files.  The default protocol
is ZModem MobyTurbo (DSZ), and speeds from 2400-14,400 bps V.32bis are
supported. If you change the protocol, please set it back to ZModem
when you are done.



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From: system@memalph.UUCP (Woody Harper)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Re: Street prices for DesqView/X
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 10:49:53 MST
Organization: Memory Alpha BBS - Phoenix, AZ -

alheid@sedist.cray.com (Greg Alheid) writes:

> In article <stefans.720433366@bauv106>, stefans@bauv106.bauv.unibw-muenchen.d
> |> I want to buy Desqview/X with a very limited budget. So i would very
> |> appreciate any informations about the actual prices and where i can 
> |> get them.
> |> 
> |> Thanks in advance,
> |> Stefan
> |> -- 
> |> __
> |> Stefan Schwarz                            University of the armed forces
> |> Laboratory for graphical data processing  W-8014 Neubiberg, FRG
> |> --
> 
>   The best package I have seen so far is DESQview/X with the "DESQview/X to 
> other X systems Network Manager" at Egghead Software for $199. This is the 
> same price that the regular DESQview/X is going for.

I purchased DV/X at CompUSA for $120.00. That is their going price.

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From: egrayver@cco.caltech.edu (Eugene Grayver)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: DVX on serial port HELP!!!!!!!!!
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:41:34 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

Is there any way to use x-windows on a pc with DVX that is connected
only to a serial port at 19.2?  If there is, HOW????  If not, is there
any other porgram that will let me do it?  Preferable shareware, ftpable.
I have access to various unix computers.
Thanks
From: aml@world.std.com (Andrew M Langmead)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Re: Street prices for DesqView/X
Date: 13 Nov 92 14:19:51 GMT
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die

vla@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Louis Verhagen) writes:

>I would like to thank greg again for his efforts getting me price
>and order info from Egghead to me in Australia.
>But Egghead "claims" that there DV/X packages are not for
>export?????? Can anybody explain this to me?

>Greetings
>Louis Verhagen	Vla@waves.ce.adfa.oz.au

Many vendors put a notice on their packages stating "not for export"
(At least on american versions of their products that I see in
retail stores.) Some have valid reasons (Norton Utilties has DES 
encryption, which has some sort of State Department regulations
about exporting.) Some I am almost sure is because the company
wants to sell other versions (often copy protected) outside the
USA. (Most don't say "not for export" according to who.) A "not
for export due to government regulations" would have some legal
ramifications. A "not for export, because we want to be in charge of
distribution (or assign charge to distribution) outside of the
Untited Sates" probably does not. (Although I'm not a lawyer, so don't 
go by what I am saying. I don't think that anybody would buy "but Andrew
said it was OK" as a defense.)

DESQview/X, since it contains networking components. Might be
a more complex issue than most software. (I can picture the
topic of "computer networking" is a scary sounding subject
to largely computer illiterate sections of the US government.)
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