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From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
Subject: Re: Where the pro-ACC stand ends
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:40:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.160552.16171@ncsu.edu> delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE) writes:
>
> Florida State and Clemson both deserve it because they win with class. I
> happened to be at Death Valley this year, and after we lost, we were treated
> to a party with both NCSU and Clemson fans in attendance.
>

(I can't believe I'm responding to this guy in a civil manner :) )

I really have to agree here.  Take away your stereotype of Clempsun
fans being backwoods farmers.   Some of them are, but they are quite
friendly and hospitable, win or lose.  This seems to apply both going
to games @ Clemson and when I've seen Clemson play at GT.

> Georgia Tech is also a class school, and although it's located in the middle
> of downtown Atlanta, it is still able to hold a great reputation, unlike those
> Georgia Bulldog people.
>

I'm a bit biased, being a GT alum, but have heard comments from
visitors from other ACC schools and South Carolina on how well they're
treated.  Of course, many GT visitors have also commented on how the
degree of alcohol consumed (on both the student and alumni side) was
surprisingly high.  Of course, during the 2-9/3-8 streak a few year
ago, the student body had nothing better to do (the only highlight
was that surprise win vs. So. Carolina and the surprise choke vs.
Auburn).

The UGAers are typically a bit on the rowdy side.  Clemsoners (being
from the same part of the country) are also quite spirited, but seem
to also apply some standard of behavior as well.  Of course, these are
just my views, and I'm sure some UGA person will flame me and say
nasty things about how they were treated at GT.  (Note:  even Lewis
Grizzard has written kind things about how he was at least treated
at GT-UGA games in Atlanta).


-- 
Rob Butera - ECE grad student   Rice University, Houston, TX   rbutera@rice.edu

         "Only sick music makes money today" - Nietzsche, 1888
From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Big Ten Prognostication
Summary: For what they're worth...
Keywords: Big Ten
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:01:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.Bu0nJ7.ILD
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign


For what they're worth, my Big Ten prognostications:

1.	Michigan	10-1	8-0	(No question here)
2.	Illinois	 9-2	6-2	(Easy schedule for Tepper)
3.	Ohio State	 8-3	6-2	(Nice year in Columbus)
4.	Iowa		 6-6	5-3	(Horrid schedule)
5.	Indiana		 6-5	4-4	(About the same as last year)
6.	Purdue		 6-5	4-4	(Going for a big upset)
7.	Wisconsin	 5-6	3-5	(Rebuilding continues)
8.	Mich. State	 4-7	3-5	(Perles back in the saddle)
9.	Minnesota	 2-9	1-7	(Wacker will make it exciting)
10.	Northwestern	 0-11	0-8	(Tough go for Barnett)

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From: chen@a.cs.okstate.edu (SMITH LISA MIN-YI)
Subject: A&M is way-cool (was: something about cajun-high)
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 16:26:14 GMT


Hi everybody.  I'm new to the group.  I've been reading thru these really
neat postings and there's something that I just don't understand.  I just
don't see why these Tx. Aggies (as opposed to an Oklahoma Aggie like me :)
think they can just walk in to Death Valley Lousyanna (sp) and leave
with a win.  Did you see that Goober gave J.J. 10 points in their dinner 
bet?  These Aggies just kill me.  Oh sure, A&M is the best University
in the world, steeped in tradition and pride, but everybody knows that LSU
is going to absolutely kill those aggies in football on Saturday.

My prediction:

  LSU 100
  A&M   2

- lisa 

ps: Somebody told me about Oliver's Woofing Theorem once...something like
    the performance of your team is inversely proportional to how much
    you woof about your team before the game.
    Is there a corresponding anti-woofing theorem?

pps: Goober, haven't I met you somewhere before?  
     Like at a wedding or something.

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From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Re: A&M BEATS BILL WALSH
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:48:18 GMT

John Leinaweaver,,RRC-4A720,699-2322 (lein@base.ctt.bellcore.com) wrote:
: and don't forget the bad call by the ref's giving A&M an interception on a 
: play that had both pass interference and an interception after the
: ball clearly bounced off the ground.  It certainly broke A&M's string   
: of starting with poor field position in the 2nd half.

John -

This play was clearly a bad call, but clearly had no effect on the
outcome of the game.  Are we already starting to hear Stanfurd's
excuses?

-- 
Scott Harper                       Optical Data Systems, Inc.
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From: mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson)
Subject: Iowa???
Keywords: hello?
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:06:13 GMT

What happened to all the Iowa/B1? woofers?

This is going to be a real low traffic season if things don't
pick up.

Michael Nelson
From: valdis@sal-sun21.usc.edu (Valdis Kalejs)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Trojan News
Date: 2 Sep 1992 17:35:17 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun21.usc.edu





In article <laagj1INNbar@aludra.usc.edu> bkowal@aludra.usc.edu (Brian A. Kowal) writes:
>In responce to Bill's comment:
>
>>  And let me guess, at the Notre Dame Game the USC band will have played
>>  their "Tribute to Troy" song one billion times.
>
>>  "That is the only song you know...
>>  it's boring and it's slow...
>>  We really wish you'd go."
>
>You know it's interesting.  I had a friend that went to the school of
>fruits and nuts (Cal).  She had never heard the SC fight song until
>the SC vs Cal game.  After hearing the song a few times during the
>game she had it pretty well memorized.  Yet on the other hand the new
>SC freshman did not remember anything about the Cal band.  Come to
>think of it, I've asked Cal students if they knew their fight song -
>most said no.  Kinda impressive, being able to sing the opposing teams
>fight song on que, but not knowing your own...
>
>I still find it interesting that Russell White wanted to come to USC,
>but was not accepted due to poor academic standing.  Of course Cal
>took him as quick as possible...
>
>Also, I seem to remember in 1983 I think
>
>USC 66
>Cal 0




GOOD POINT Brian! But lets take it a step further and go back two years ago 
where I (and 60,000 other Coliseum fans) witnessed another episode of the
"class" of the average Cal fan. It was the first half of the USC/Cal game
and SC had just scored a TD. As most people know, that it is tradition for
TRAVELER to take a lap around the Coliseum track. While TRAVELER and his
rider were poised and ready to take the lap from the entrance of the Coliseum
tunnel,the Cal rooting section (sitting near the tunnel) showed their true
colors. Instead of booing,hissing or making cat calls, that TRAVELER,his rider
and SC fans are accustomed of seeing, Cal fans began throwing hard objects that
startled the horse which began bucking,kicking,threw the rider off the horse
onto the track and came dangerously close of stampeading the Cal bench. The
horse was finally calmed down but not after sending three people (including a
Cal supporter) to the hospital (much to the delight of the Cal faithful). 

Yes Cal fans, a true act of class... O yeah, they come to town on Oct.17.
Yes Brian, the revenge that the SC players and fans will have WILL be sweet
indeed!

Fight On,
Valdis Kalejs
From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: INFO ON TEXAS PRACTICES
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:02:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug26.170231.4000
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay)) writes:
>
>>                   GO STANFORD!!!  BEAT THE HELL OUTTA a&m!!!
>
>I disagree, as do most of my friends. We _want_ A&M to win this. It would
>be very bad for the SWC for it's top-ranked (and defending champion)
>team to be beaten by the Pac 10's 3rd- or 4th-ranked (preseason--I'm
>not sure about their position, to be honest, but I think it is generally
>3 or 4) team. I'll be rooting for A&M all the way, as well as Texas Tech

I believe Stanfraud is preseason #3 behind Washington and UCLA, but ahead of
Kal and the Condoms.

>over OU (it could happen) and TCU over Miami (I'm not religious, but I
>may have to pray before this one).

Well I AM religious and I'll be praying right along with you...

****************************************************************************
Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Hey Matt!  The diffusion pump is full of
University of Washington      *   water again!
Seattle, WA 98195             *
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From: zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: A&M-LSU  (was: Re: NCSU!)
Keywords: nnn
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:02:44 GMT
Organization: Amoco Production

>Cmuck, make him buy you something to eat after the game.  If A&M wins by 
>more than 10, he has to come up here to College Station and buy me something
>to eat.  
>
>You drive between College Station and Houston a lot...J.J. was wondering
>if he needed to rent a 4WD vehicle to get up here.  Have they finished
>paving that road, yet?
 
The roads are fine, I am much more worried about what is left of I-10 
between Houston and baton rouge...

cmuck
From: zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: LSU is a great univ (was Re: A&M-LSU  (was: Re: NCSU!))
Keywords: nnn
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:28:28 GMT
Organization: Amoco Production

>
>Hi.
>
>I am new to all of this net stuff -- in fact, this is my first post.  I think 
>its really neat-o and I like talking to you guys.
>
>Just my simple opinion:
>
>I didn't go to LSU (I hear its awesome), I've never seen LSU's campus 
>(I hear its really beautiful), nor have I seen Tiger Stadium (I hear its 
>steeped in tradition).
> 
>But boy does their football team REEK.  I mean, Curley Hallman is no good, 
>those 8 returning defensive starters and 9 returning offensive starters were
>*never* any good, and that #1 recruiting class in the nation is probably 
>overrated, too.
>
>Those nice Texas Aggies will beat the Tigers by at least 42.  
>
>Oh, the Aggies are neat-o, too.  In fact, if I were an Aggie fan, I'd bet 
>that mean ol' J.J. fella all kinds of meals and money *and* give him the 42 points.
>
>I mean, who does he think he is.
>
>-- 
>wks_sup@usho77.hou281
>        the former 
>    CEPS/TSD/CSD/CISS/Workstation Support Unit

I will have two of what this individual is smoking!!!  :-)  And a 
Dee-lux gore-met cheeez-burger from Carl's JR!   :-)

cmuck

TO GO!!!  (little David Lee Roth parity for those 70's children)  :-) 

too many damn smileys....
I am just hoping that the Stanford scare was a healthy scare...
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From: paladin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jason Gische)
Subject: Re: INFO ON TEXAS PRACTICES
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 20:13:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.170231.4000@u.washington.edu> crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>I believe Stanfraud is preseason #3 behind Washington and UCLA, but ahead of
>Kal and the Condoms.


Stanford has been ranked number 2 in the Pac10 by just about everybody.
From: stassen@alc.com (Chris Stassen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: CFPOOL: Week #2 Entry
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:18:03 GMT
Reply-To: stassen@alc.com
Organization: The Lion's Den, San Jose

If you want the introduction to the CFPOOL (rules for entry, method of
scoring, hints for strategy, etc.) just ask via Email (to stassen@alc.com).

Note:	This entry is out a little early because I will be out of town this
	weekend.  This will also cause 9/5's results to be a little late.
	Starting with the week 2 recap (9/9), we will be back 'on schedule'.

Game list for 9/12 (18 games):

	Arkansas @ South Carolina
	Bowling Green @ Ohio State
	California @ Purdue
	Colorado @ Baylor
	Florida State @ Clemson
	Illinois @ Missouri
	Memphis State @ Louisville
	Michigan @ Notre Dame
	Mississippi State @ Louisiana State
	Pacific @ Nevada
	Rice @ Duke
	San Jose State @ Minnesota
	Tennessee @ Georgia
	Texas @ Syracuse
	Tulsa @ Texas A&M
	Washington State @ Arizona
	West Virginia @ Pittsburgh
	Wyoming @ Texas Tech
	

Don't forget:	Enter by Email only.  Order predictions by 'confidence'.
		Place a $ by itself on the line above the first pick.
		Those who enter by Wednesday (9/9) receive a recap sheet.
		If you want to receive entries/results by Email, just ask.
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From: chee1jz@Rosie.UH.EDU
Subject: Re: Where the pro-ACC stand ends
Reply-To: chee1jz@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:50:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.230650.19135@hubcap.clemson.edu>, trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight) writes:
>And I will add that even when FSU pulled that... that... play, to beat us
>a couple or three years ago, some 'Noles that were staying with us actually
>were very gracious as we were to them.  We let them stay, after all...
>Of course, they were old friends...
> 
>Trevor Bauknight         trev@hubcap.clemson.edu    ...gatech!hubcap!trev
> 
>                                                     +-----------+
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>                  fish on                            |     |     |
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	But some big Tallahassee rednecks started a couple of fights outside
tigertown, making the 15.5 hour drive worthwhile.




















	Larry Fore			COMMS:
					chee1jz@jetson.uh.edu
					lbfore@uh.edu
					(713) 743-4338
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From: mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson)
Subject: Re: Why so many Va Tech woofers?
Keywords: coz hokies are better than hoos
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:15:45 GMT

where would the beginning of the season be without the annual
VT-UVa flamefest ?!?  :-)

>one blowout of Virginia going to be Techs highlight film for the 90s?

I will agree there was little point in bringing up the 90 game.

>Oh, and by the way, what was the score in 91 when UVA played Tech?

and that was a spanking,

but having said that...

>while Tech has continued to wallow in total mediocrity.

VT has spent most of the time cleaning up after Dooley's garbage.

VT would have posted a similar record over the last 2-3 years as UVa
if they had played a similar schedule.  VT's schedule has been
significantly more difficult than UVa's.  There really is not much
room for disagreement on that point.

>but has Tech deserved to be
>higher than #50 any time recently?

most power ranking systems seem to think so.  you know, the systems
that account for schedule strength?

>WHY SO MANY TECH WOOFERS?!?!?

because VT is larger school.  They produce more graduates.  VT
graduates are more likely to be in technical field.  Those in a 
technical field are more likely to have usenet access.

hence, more VT woofers.

Michael Nelson

go terps!
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From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Subject: Re: SI Preseason Top 20
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:22:14 GMT

In article <BtwEyF.x6@news.larc.nasa.gov> mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson) writes:
> 
> I'm not trying to defend SI specifically, just stir up some ECMB. :-)
> 
> 
> No, I mean I'm *really* east coast.  Like, the east coast pretty
> much ends at my front door.  So I think that makes me in charge
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> of the ECMB.  :-)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Michael Nelson

POINT OF ORDER.  My house is 2.1 miles from the Atlantic;
My summer house is ON THE BARNEGAT BAY.  My map shows the 
Jersey shore 7 or 8 degrees longitude east of Virginia.

There, of course, is no East Coast Media Bias.
There are also no West Coast college teams of note.

-- 
"Listen up son, and pay attention.   |  Bob Dieckmann (rwd@mtfme.att.com)
How ya' gonna learn anything if you  |  GO: Mets (& dear old Rutgers)
always got your head in a book?"     |  I probably should've included smileys.
                -- Foghorn Leghorn   |  **usual disclaimer**
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From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: ND's DuBose Situation
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 16:00:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.133416.7382@news.nd.edu>, rszczerb@schiller.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:
|> 
|>  	The word just came in from the NCAA concerning the 
|> status of Notre Dame's DuBose.  He was suspended for 2 games
|> (NU and MU) for accpeting a $600 dollar loan.  He was also
    ^^^^^^^^^

Hmmm, I wasn't aware that Notre Dame played so many Big Eight 
teams this year.

-- 

Kevin H. Klinge
Bell Communications Research
kevink@soac.bellcore.com

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From: pokey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Vince Rhee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: UPI/NFF Top 25 Preseason Poll
Date: 24 Aug 92 02:06:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: 1992-Beat-The-Hell-Outta-Everyone Aggies of Texas A&M

Our own quangl@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Quang Le) states :
>
>So bad! Texas is not in Top 25.  But if it beats Texas A&M, Syracuse,
>Oklahoma, Miss. St. and Miami or Notre Dame in Cotton Bowl can it be
>MNC 1992? :-))
>An inquiry mind want to know.


	Uh...kind of a big 'if', isn't it? That's like saying, "Well,
	gee, if A&M beats Stanford, LSU, Missouri, Louisville, Tulsa,
	and goes undefeated in the SWC, can it claim the 1992-92
	MNC if it beats Miami/Notre Dame in the Cotton Bowl?"

	<insert :-) as warranted>


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From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Penn State update <more bad news>
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:27:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Aug29.064049.19496@icf.hrb.com> mjk@icf.hrb.com (Michael J. Kelley) writes:
> Ricky Sayles and Bobby Engram have been suspened from the team. Both players
> were running with the second team offense. If anybody wants the exact details
> E-mail me. I don't want to post them. -- 

I have no such reservations.  The 2 players were arrested for
looting their classmates dormitories.

My criticism is that their are 2 players who were charged with
obstructing justice, but were allowed to keep practicing with
the team.  Then one player was arrested for selling cocaine,
but he's allowed to keep practicing with the team; now this case.

As long as Joe Paterno does nothing, there is no message.
Mr. Paterno should send a message that is loud and clear,
and then this kind of hooliganism will stop.  I think it is a
carryover from the QB who was constantly being hauled in
on drunken charges, but little was done by the athletic department.

The image of Penn State football is slipping.
> 
> 
>                                                               Mike Kelley
>                                                               HRB Systems
>                                                               St. College, Pa.
> 
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> DoD # 645              Go Nittany Lions !!!             Beat The Bearcats!!!
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"Listen up son, and pay attention.   |  Bob Dieckmann (rwd@mtfme.att.com)
How ya' gonna learn anything if you  |  GO: Mets (& dear old Rutgers)
always got your head in a book?"     |  I probably should've included smileys.
                -- Foghorn Leghorn   |  **usual disclaimer**
From: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Where the pro-ACC stand ends
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:12:48 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Florida State University

In article <1992Aug31.235006.8769@menudo.uh.edu> chee1jz@Rosie.UH.EDU writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.230650.19135@hubcap.clemson.edu>, trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight) writes:
>>And I will add that even when FSU pulled that... that... play, to beat us

heh^3

>>were very gracious as we were to them.  We let them stay, after all...
>>Of course, they were old friends...

Well, people I talked to after the game said the Clempsun folks were
quite well behaved. Unfortunately, I've seen some rather obnoxious
behavior from FSU fans the past few years. Obviously these are people
with no recollection of the 0-11 years...

>	But some big Tallahassee rednecks started a couple of fights outside

Oh, come now! There are no rednecks in Tallahassee...

>tigertown, making the 15.5 hour drive worthwhile.

What, you like to fight?

David Poore
poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu
From: rszczerb@chekov.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND's DuBose Situation
Date: 3 Sep 92 13:34:59 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

In article <1834qeINN6ts@agate.berkeley.edu> cubbie@garnet.berkeley.edu (                               ) writes:
>
>>>Why was he cleared in the car loan ?  Did it not happen ?  It seemed
>>>pretty clear,  by the Tribune reports that this was a violation.  DId the
>>>NCAA give any indication why he was cleared ?
>
>BECAUSE he plays at THE holiest football factory!!

Oh gimme a break.  Everyone and their mother is looking for
ways to find violations against the top programs (like ND, Michigan,
and even Miami). 

 Why was he cleared of the car loan?... beacuse it
wasn't a violation of anything (at least according to the NCAA).
The loan from the Seattle couple was a violation and he
was suspended for two games.  The car loan was found to be
an ordinary business transaction and thus no sanctions
were imposed for that.  

		- Rob
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