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From: tjwu@athena.mit.edu (Thomas J Wu)
Subject: Re: Is EOS 28-105 USM much better than 35-105 USM lens?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
	<1992Dec15.155620.17767@spider.co.uk>
	<1992Dec15.165755.13707@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:13:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.165755.13707@ultb.isc.rit.edu> ecldco@ultb.isc.rit.edu (E.C. Loyd) writes:

>  In article <1992Dec15.155620.17767@spider.co.uk> mikec@spider.co.uk (Mike Coren) writes:
>  >In article <1992Dec12.011901.9252@news.mentorg.com> arora@arora.mentorg.com (Arora Amitabh @ PCB x3080) writes:
>  >>
>  >>What is a parfocal lens ?
>  >
>  >A parfocal zoom lens is one in which you can focus it for one focal length,
>  >then change the focal length without having to refocus.  On manual focus
>  >zoom this is a nice feature since you can zoom in to the full magnification
>  >of the lens, focus, then zoom back out to frame your shot.
>
>  And the Sigma 75-200mm that I have is one of these.  It's a nice feature.

Actually, I know very few lenses that *aren't* true zooms.  The Minolta
28-105xi is one, but are there others?

>  -- 
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Thomas Wu
Internet:  tjwu@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: "Color by Beseler" Kits
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 10:56:07 GMT

In article <1992Dec5.190010.9681@news.acns.nwu.edu>, mjg@nwu.edu (Michael J Graven) writes:
> Rodney Gitzel (rodney@cs.UAlberta.CA) writes:
...
> Well, you *could* use EP-2, but it'll take you about four times as long to
> process any given print.  I think it might be a little cheaper, until you
> "pay yourself" for your time.
> 

I would give EP-2 a *BIG* miss. Kodak discointinued it as of last Friday. Use
real RA-4 instead.

~Paul
From: nkane@terapin.com (Nathan Kane)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Any opinions on the Kodak 2CR5 Lithium battery ?
Date: 12 Dec 92 17:34:40 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <4414@cvbnetPrime.COM>, jtembulk@spica.prime.com (Jawahar Tembulkar)
writes:
>
>Wish to know because it is oc sale for $7.50 at a local Walgreens
>Drug Store.....
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>Jawa
>
>
>
>* Statutory Disclaimer : These are merely my views.     *
>* Jawahar M. Tembulkar, Computervision, R & D,          *
>* 14 Crosby Drive, MS. 14-15, Bedford, MA 01730, USA.   *
>* jtembulk@thor.Prime.COM, voice : (617) 275-1800 x3185 *
Go for it, I've used the Kodak 2CR5's before, if i remember they were fine.
I always get Energizer 2CR5's at a Longs Drugs now, they have them near where I
live for 8 bucks (it helps that its down the street from the JC I go to that
has a large photo dept, so this one longs has a large photo section that sells
things for something like their cost +10%
From: jay@metran.UUCP (Jay Ts)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: "Signature Color" film -- what's the story?
Date: 17 Dec 92 02:34:14 GMT
Organization: Metran Technology, Tampa, Florida

jacobson@cello.hpl.hp.com (David Jacobson) writes:
: Indeed, this stuff is NOT C-41.

Really?  What is it then; that is, how does the process differ from
C-41?  What if I take my Seattle Film Works or Signature film in to
a C-41 lab for processing?  Do I get an image?  If so, what kind?

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From: fblau@well.sf.ca.us (Frank Blau)
Subject: Olympus OM-1 Zoom Lens
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:13:04 GMT


I am looking to buy one, but can't seem to find one anywhere... does anyone
know where to get one mail order... or wants to sell one? I'm in Wilton,
CT...

please email replies to:

frank_blau@caresys.phc.com

thanks!
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        "'cause cheap is how I feel"
        "Joe Bob says check it out!"
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From: hamel@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Andre Hamel)
Subject: Re: EOS lens list
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:56:07 GMT

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From: hintzman@hpljah.hpl.hp.com (Jeff Hintzman)
Subject: Re: Outgrowing your gear 
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:01:08 GMT
Reply-To: hintzman@hpljah.hpl.hp.com
Organization: HP IC Business Division R&D, Palo Alto, CA

In article <PHR.92Dec17215354@napa.telebit.com>, phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin) writes:
|>    BTW: Nikon isn't the only manufacturer with backwards compatibility in
|>    the lens mount (and not complete compatibility either). Pentax has
|>    done it too, and better, with their K-mount.
|> 
|> Really.  Tell me how to put a 1960-vintage screw-mount Pentax
|> lens on a K-mount body.  

Use the $20 Pentax screw-mount-to-K-mount converter, screw lens in.

|>                          Tell me how to get full-aperture metering
|> while you're at it.

The same way you do it with non-AI Nikorr lenses on a modern Nikon body: 
You don't.

Still, beats putting a 1960-vintage Canon lens on an EOS!

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From: ksampath@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Krishna S Sampath)
Subject: bogen 3040 tripod + 3047 head for sale
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:55:01 GMT

i inherited a *big* bogen 3040 tripod with the 3047 3-axis tilt and swiwel
head. since i already have one, i am selling this. 

make an offer.

krishna

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From: acs@csri.toronto.edu (Alvin Chia-Hua Shih)
Subject: Re: Outgrowing your gear 
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:10:07 GMT

In <1992Dec17.203841.9713@research.nj.nec.com> lds@ccrl.nj.nec.com (Duan-Shin Lee) writes:

>The manufacturer's commitment to maintain backward compatibility is
>quite important here.  If he had mistakenly chosen Canon for example,
>he may be left in the dust again ten years from now.  Who knows if
>Canon won't change their mount again ten years from now, when some new
>technology emerges!!

Canon switched to the EF mount to *better accomodate* new technologies.
My guess is that Nikon will have to change its mount before Canon does.

I can use any EF mount lens ever made on my EOS 630.  I could have paid
twice as much for an F-801s (just this summer), and then be shut out of
the new AF-I/D lenses (and I would be *peeved*)!

Why buy an Nikon AF body when you have to MF your lenses?  Why not keep
buying those FM2's and F3's?

If you want BACKWARD compatibility, buy a Nikon.
If you want FORWARD compatibility, buy a Canon.

Personally, I'd rather have *forward* compatibility rather than
*backward* compatibility.

ACS
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From: atomas@geloser.login.qc.ca (J-F Bissonnette)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Help on Nikon FE-2
Date: 10 Dec 92 22:31:41 GMT
Organization: Gentleman Loser System, Montreal/Qc/Cdn

mretamri@buho.dpi.udec.cl (Marco Retamal R.) writes:

> 
>   Friends :
>            My local photo dealer offers  a  used Nikon FE-2. The price is
>   convenient, an when I taked a look at it, it seemed all right, so I
>   think I will purchase it. Anyway, before spending my hard earned money,
>   I would be very grateful if anybody can e-mail me with info about this mode
>   Specially what are the most common failures in the FE-2, so I can review
>   this body in depth. Any comment (pro and against) will be welcomed.
> 
>           thanks in advance, and excuse my bad english.
> 
> *************************************************************************
>  Guillermo Brajovic Allende                  mretamri@buho.dpi.udec.cl
> *************************************************************************

Nikon FE-2 is a very gook camera, I got one and used it very much
in the past 7 years... no big problems with it.  I brought it
for inspection and the only problems found were a little dust
in the body and some light meter problem... all that for 7 years
of service!  

Basicly this camera is very interesting:

speed from 8sec to 1/4000th (never had to use it tough :-)  )
extremly resistant:  

        I was on a shoothing, did'nt have time to lose with
        technical problems, and my camera got jamed.  I figured
        that it was because of sand in the camera that got
        on the mirror mechanism (the battery was new), so I
        shake it, no results, I took the chance to smash
        the base on a wooden wall (everyone was quite surprise
        of that move!), the mirror got back in it's place,
        and I could finished the job... the client was very 
        satisfied!  No problems since...

Synchro speed at 1/250th, very usefull for rapid action

mechanical speed at 1/250.  This is the hic!  If you go on
very cold temperature, the batery may freeze, this speed 
is your only option.  I use it, had good results.

and over/under exposure device:  never used it, I always figure
it out myself.

So it's a good buy depending on the price.  You could have the
Nikon FM-2 for about 350$ US in New-York.

J.F.


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From: ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.m.atkins)
Subject: Re: Mirror lock-up, Has anybody really tested?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:10:45 GMT

In article <BzBMF4.H8o.1@cs.cmu.edu>, nesmith+@cs.cmu.edu (Daniel Nesmith) writes:
> One of the German photo magazines did an article on the factors
> that influence sharpness, sometime during the course of the year, I
> think.  Mirror lock-up did help, but nowhere near as much as using
> a tripod and cable release.  In fact, they even showed that a
> "professional" tripod will give marked improvement over a flimsier
> "amateur" tripod.  Whether this result was influenced by their
> advertisers, I do not know. :-)
> 
> I haven't done these tests myself, not being a sharpness fanatic.
> (I have bigger problems with my photography, like composition!)
> 

A couple of points. (1) Mirror lock up will only be of use if you are already
using a sturdy tripod, and you are using a lens >200mm or so. If your tripod
is really study and the camera is well mounted, mirror induced vibrations only
start to affect image quality for telephoto lenses - maybe as short as 135mm
if your camera is particularly vibration prone. (2) Mirror lock up will only
yield improved images over a restricted range of shutter speeds - maybe 1/4 sec
to 1/30 sec for well mounted "normal" (i.e 600mm or less) lenses. (3) A cable
release may not always give better results (though it usually does). On some
equipment, actually holding onto the camera or lens may damp vibrations. 
So, to maximize sharpness you should (a) Use the bigest, heaviest tripod you
can find, then (b) use a remote release, then (under a restricted set of
conditions) (c) use mirror lockup. The only exception here is with very long
(> 600mm) lenses where (a) would be replaced by - use two big, heavy tripods,
one under the lens and one under the camera!

===============================================================
Bob Atkins  AT&T Bell Labs  email (direct)  att!clockwise!rma
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From: faust@asds.enet.dec.com (Stephen R Faust)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Dumb Photographers
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:24:15 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

> 
>          [ much ado about dumb photographers...etc...]
>

They may NOT even be 'photographers'!!

  But just everyday people learning what they can and cant do with
     their $50 P&S cameras...
From: man@labrea.zko.dec.com (Richard Man)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Olympus lens for sale - price lowered
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:19:52 GMT
Reply-To: man@labrea.zko.dec.com (Richard Man)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


	Zuiko	65-200 F/4		$130
	Zuiko	135 F/2.8		$100

	Buyer pays shipping (COD?) Both in very good conditions (no scratch, mark
	or anything).
--
- Richard F. Man (man@labrea.zko.dec.com)
"Small Rovers, Big Dreams"
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: acs@csri.toronto.edu (Alvin Chia-Hua Shih)
Subject: Re: N800*s, FM2 or EOS RT : advice needed
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:02:01 GMT

In <1992Dec16.091211.6966@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> sylve_ge@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Gerald Sylvester) writes:

>>Also note that the 8008s cannot AF with Nikon's bigger AF lenses, like
>>the 300/2.8 AF-I and the 600/4 AF-I, whereas the 630/RT work with all of
>>Canon's EF-mount lenses (which now go to 1200/5.6!!!)

>Quick correction, the 8008s CAN AF with the 300/2.8 AF-I (and I would
>guess it would with the 600/4 AF-I).  I have used the 8008s with a
>300/2.8 AF-I before.

Are you sure?  There is a 300/2.8 AF (no "-I") which has been available
for some time.  The 300/2.8 AF-I is pretty recent, and I'm pretty sure
it doesn't AF with the 8008s.

>Gerald Sylvester

ACS
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From: kfitzsim@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kevin Fitzsimons)
Subject: Re: Battery problem with EOS-10
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:48:00 GMT

I have a 10s which I had to send in for service. The problem was one of the 
focus squares in the view finder was not going off and it was draining the 
battery. Canon repaired it for free. It will appear very dim after the camera 
is shut off, but it is still draining power.
Check it out, maybe that is your problem.
Fitzsimons
From: philippe@contrast.wlink.nl (Philippe Moroux)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: schools
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:22:04

The art-school in which I teach is looking for good addresses in the USA, to
send one or two of their best students of photography for a period of 3
months.
Those addresses could be eventually another school where they could complete
their learning, a photographic studio or an artist using photography as main
medium.
It could be student exchange (I think a lot of schools practise this kind of
things).

Ideas welcome !


Philippe.


                           email  : philippe@contrast.wlink.nl
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From: feldman@hal9k.cxo.dec.com (james feldman)
Subject: Re: Xmas displays
Reply-To: feldman@hal9k.cxo.dec.com (james feldman)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:54:20 GMT

In article <92349.231651STAN@VM.TEMPLE.EDU>, STAN@VM.TEMPLE.EDU (Stan Horwitz) writes:
|>With Christmas  being only  a few  days from  now, many  of my  naighbors have
|>decorated their houses  with Christmas lights and other stuff.   Some of these
|>homes are quite nicely decorated and I  would like to capture them on film for
|>posterity.  My goal is to record colors and details of each home.
|>
I would go with one of the tungsten balanced films.  Typically they're designed
for longer exposures, and should give better color rendition.  You could also
try Fuji NHG400, which doesn't seem to color shift as badly as some other films
during long exposures.
--
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Digital Equipment Corp              || Digital Sales Rep.
CSC/Colorado Springs                || 

My opinions are my own and in no way reflect Digital's POV (unless they're
charging somebody for me to give them).
From: claire@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Claire Sheppard)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Restoring Old Photos
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:56:00 GMT
Reply-To: claire@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Claire Sheppard)
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: claire@thumper.cc.utexas.edu


	I just bought a Macintosh IIvx and would like to use it for restoring
and retouching photographs. I was wondering if anyone was currently doing this
and had any particular suggestions.  
	At present, I plan on buying a Scanmaker II [the one without photoshop
because I already have a new copy of it].  
	Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. 

	Thanks in advance. 

Claire Sheppard
From: jcollias@src.dec.com (jim collias)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Opinions on Tokina SZX 28-70 f2.8 ?
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:57:00 GMT
Organization: DEC Systems Research Center

Hi all,

I'm thinking about buying Tokina's SZX 28-70 f2.8 - 4.3(I think) lens for my
Pentax.  I'm pretty sure that it's discontinued, but some places still may
have one in stock. 

Has anyone had an experience with this lens, or any other lens in Tokina's SZX
series that I should know about?  

Thanks,

Jim C.
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: craig@sco.COM (Craig R.P. Heath)
Subject: Re: Help on Minolta 8000i
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:23:25 GMT


ianchan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ian Hin Yun Chan) writes:

> ... what the left-most icon on the LCD display is for ...

[ ASCII pictures of (I think) focus mode display removed ]

>Am I right in guessing that the first is center-weighted, and the other
>intelligent exposure?

I don't think so - I believe that it is the same as the 7000i, in which
case the left-most icon is exposure compensation, if I remember rightly.
This, however simply looks like +/-, and what you describe looks like
either the right-most icon, which selects centre or wide field autofocus,
or possibly the viewfinder icon for static or continuous auto-focus.

The centre/wide focus icon is two square brackets with a small rectangle
in the middle, and the static/continuous focus icon is two round brackets
with a dot in the middle, filled in with smaller brackets in continuous mode.

As far as exposure modes go, the only choice you have is evaluative
matrix metering (the default) or spot metering (hold in the spot button
on the camera back).

	- Craig @ SCO near London.
From: ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.m.atkins)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: was going to get 8008s but EOS 10s recommended
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:55:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <Bz27q5.Lsz@fig.citib.com>, glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:
> 
> In article <Bz0Apw.A66.2@cs.cmu.edu>, rane+@cs.cmu.edu (Aaron Hughes) writes:
> |> He told
> |> me that the 10s has fewer features overall (slower shutter, slower
> |> flash sync, no matrix or spot metering - and it uses those terrible
> |> lithium batteries)  but that it is built well,it has a pretty 
> |> useful built-in flash, and Canon lenses are just as good as Nikon - 
> |> the USM's may even be better.  
> 
> I would do without a lot of the gadgetry, but I
> would *never* have a camera without a spot meter.
> 
> You might want to look at the Nikon 6006.  It uses
> *those* batteries, but it has all the neat flash
> stuff you'd have to buy an SB24 for, and it has
> matrix, center-weighted, and spot metering.
> 

I haven't been following this thread, so I apologise if this has been covered,
but the Elan has a better flash than the 10s (zoom flash head, red eye
reduction, second curtain sync) and also has matrix, center-weighted and
"partial" metering (where "partial" is a semi-spot mode covering about 6%
of the image area - the "partial" mode on the 10s is nearer 8%). It is also
cheaper than the 10s. You lose some fancy functions (intervalometer, multiple
AF zones, ability to leave leader out on rewind), but the 8008 doesn't have
these either (nor does the 6006). The 10s does have (8?) zone matrix metering
by the way.

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From: koonj@hpsgl1.sgp.hp.com (Koon-Jan LIM)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1992 05:12:28 GMT
Subject: matte vs laminating vs canvas
Organization: Asia Peripherals Division, HP Singapore
Newsgroups: rec.photo



I have a set of glossy prints (mostly portraits) that
I intend to 'hot seal' or 'hot laminate' for protection
against finger prints, dust, etc.
Does anybody knows the difference between 'hot' and
'cold' lamination'? Also, why do studios 'hot laminate'
instead of printing the pictures matte to begin with?
Another common technique I've seen in studio portraits
is to make the picture with a canvas base. Anybody 
knows the process and/or limitations on lamination
or canvas bonding?
It is unfortunate to give up that refreshing glossy
look by laminating but for practical reasons.......
Thanks for any info.
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Pentax 67 is a good medium format camera ?
Date: 15 Dec 92 11:19:40 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway

In article <MOREAUX.92Dec4193159@litsun22.epfl.ch> moreaux@litsun22.epfl.ch (Michel Moreaux) writes:
>
>I am about to buy a Pentax 67 (Santa will also bring me a spotmeter and a
>colour analyser ;-). I decided in favour of this camera because I think that
>it is less heavy than Mamiya RZ67 and Bronica GS1.
>However, the prices of the Pentax lenses are rather low (compared to those
>of Mamiya and Bronica). What about the Pentax ? Are the lenses great or not ?

Not.
See Color Photo  (German photo magazine) for a semi-complete listing of 
lenses they have tested.  Pentax tends to be at the bottom (although in
all fairness the MF lenses usually score 5 or 10 points more of 100 than
135mm camera lenses).  

>
>_Michel Moreaux
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