HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: veiss@uucp (Jeffrey S. Veiss -- CAD/Admin)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,news.admin,news.admin.misc
Subject: Problem with groups
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:05:33 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Commodore


I'm having a problem with running rn v4.4pl3.  Here's a script of
the error I'm getting:

% rn
(Revising soft pointers--be patient.)
Unread news in alt.internet.services                       12 articles
Unread news in alt.sources                                 15 articles
Unread news in alt.vampyres                                 9 articles
Unread news in comp.sources.games                           1 article
Unread news in rec.audio.car                               17 articles
etc.

Finding new newsgroups:

Server response to GROUP :
501 Usage: GROUP newsgroup.
%

We also have xrn v6.17 running and don't seem to be having any similar
problems.  Our nntp server is v1.5.11 and we're using c-news.  We've
tried recreating the active file as well and that didn't seem to help.
Any ideas as to what else to investigate or solutions would be very
much appreciated.

Thanx in advance

Jeffrey S. Veiss
Xref: sparky news.software.nntp:1868 news.software.b:3888
From: rsalz@rodan.UU.NET (Rich Salz)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,news.software.b
Subject: Re: INN1.3 where is it?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 15:54:16 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

INN1.3 was supposed to be out last Wednesday.  On that day I posted
a note saying it will be delayed a week.  I would have made it available
yesterday (Wednesday) as promised, but UUNET had a really bad crash and
I lost 1.5 days of validation time.

It will be out Friday, I expect.  Announcements will be posted here.
	/r$
From: emru@CAM.ORG (Emru Townsend)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: NN record file
Keywords: subscribe/unsubscribe
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:34:23 GMT
Organization: MegaCorp Central Complex

photo@theporch.raider.net writes:

>I would like to see a list of what groups I've subscribed to and which ones
>I've unsubscribed.  My nn manual says that's possible using the nn record
>file but I cannot figure out how to access it.  The manual says something
>about "directory ~/.nn".  Not being a Unix freak, what does that mean and
>what do I do to access this file?

Go to your home directory and enter 'more .nn'.
-- 
"What kind of place is this?"    | Emru Townsend  | emru@cam.org 
"Looks like one of them gay Arab | Montreal, Que. | switch@bix.com 
 biker sushi joints."            | (514) 932-7145 | Fido: 1:167/133
 
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: garym@telesoft.com (Gary Morris @pulsar)
Subject: Re: New nn user questions
Organization: Alsys Group, San Diego, CA, USA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:12:03 GMT

In <9301231505.AA20780@sap-ag.de> wohler@hw1175.sap-ag.de (Bill Wohler) writes:
>Subject: + How can I see which newsgroups are available?

How about ":show groups unsub" command?  

Or one of these commands (from ":help show")

:show groups            show groups with unread articles (= Y command)
:show groups all        show all subscribed groups
:show groups subscr     show unread subscribed groups
:show groups total      show all available groups
:show groups unsub      show unsubscribed groups

--GaryM
Xref: sparky news.software.nn:1812 news.answers:5456
From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes)
Subject: Date field in menu
Summary: Suggestion for additional menu layout to display the date
Originator: guckes@medusa
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:20:15 GMT

OK, so you can sort the articles for the selection menu by date
(use ":sort date" to do that).

Suggestion:
It would be nice if the menu had a layout that would display this date.
Of course, the shortest form would be nicest.
Example: "930125 08:20" for 25th Jan 1993, 08:20 time.

-- 
Sven@more.features.inc | Send me your feature request!
From: emru@CAM.ORG (Emru Townsend)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: Reading in text files to post
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:31:57 GMT
Organization: MegaCorp Central Complex

fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox) writes:

>mhatz@nyx.cs.du.edu (Macs Suck!) writes:

>>I have gotten a copy of the man pages and pored through the reference
>>commands, but cannot figure out how to read in a text file I have written
>>that I would like to post.  Thanks for all my other newbie questions that 
>>have been answered!~

>Use your editor!  NN dumps you in the editor for a reason, so use it!

Depends on the editor.  vi doesn't seem to allow it, which is why I switched
to joe.
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"Looks like one of them gay Arab | Montreal, Que. | switch@bix.com 
 biker sushi joints."            | (514) 932-7145 | Fido: 1:167/133
 
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes)
Subject: Re: Failure to Interrupt with ^C
Originator: guckes@medusa
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:08:22 GMT

irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe) writes:

>Several revisions ago, if I made a mistake using nn I was able to hit ^C
>(Control-C), my "intr" character, and it would abort the operation (shell
>command spawn, followup (before getting to vi), or whatever.

You can abort (almost) all command sequences within nn with '^g' (= control-g).

Other programs used in conjunction with nn (editor or shell) might use
other controls to be stopped/killed.  Maybe ^c worked for you by chance.
Please bear in mind that all programs might or might not react to what you do.
It's all in the hands of the programmers.  (And maybe His hands, too. :)

-- 
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was a usenet-wide appeal to send Kibo's signature to Craig Shergold.
From: st1q9@rosie.uh.edu (Devine, Della M)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: problems with posting
Date: 23 Jan 1993 23:21 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

I'm having some problems with my inews poster.  It seems that whenever i post
a message it posts it but it also sends me a mail message saying the
posting failed.  Does anybody have any idea why it does this?
I just got the nn client working in my directory and am installing it in
the public directory next week so i need to solve this problem before i
make it available to the other students.

any ideas?

william c devine ii

reply to: wdevine@andrew.cea.pvamu.edu
From: tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: Reading in text files to post
Date: 25 Jan 1993 10:04:06 -0500
Organization: Mentor Graphics -- IC Group
NNTP-Posting-Host: milk.warren.mentorg.com

In article <C1DI99.FGK@CAM.ORG> emru@CAM.ORG (Emru Townsend) writes:

>Depends on the editor.  vi doesn't seem to allow it, which is why I switched
>to joe.

Do you mean ":r filename<return>" in your vi doesn't insert a file
where the cursor is?

Surely you jest.

Tom
-- 
Tom Limoncelli -- tal@warren.mentorg.com (work) -- tal@plts.uucp (play)

Unix is a trademark of, WHATT????
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: 2 nn questions
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:21:49 GMT
Organization: Recognition Equipment, Inc.

In <C1922u.2Hw@clw.cs.man.ac.uk> chl@clw.cs.man.ac.uk (Charles Lindsey) writes:
>Well, when I type !echo %, it just flashes the path on the screen for 0.5sec
>and then shows me a clear screen with just a ! prompt at the top.

For me, the FIRST command that I give to the "!" pseudo-shell will clear
the screen, but subsequent commands will not.

-- 
#ifdef TRUE        | Fuzzy Fox (a.k.a. David DeSimone)       fuzzy@netcom.com
#define  TRUE   0  |
#define  FALSE  1  |         "S-O-C-K-S ?   Wow, Spanish *is* easy!!"
#endif             |
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: okner@socrates.umd.edu (Benjamin Okner)
Subject: New user question??
Summary: Question re unmarking articles that are no longer displayed
Keywords: Marked/unmarked articles
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:23:49 GMT

I am a fairly new nn reader and have gotten myself into a bind.  I read
several articles in a newsgroup and then exited the nn reader.  I did not
realized until the next login that the articles WOULD NOT be presented to
me again.  I think there is a way to get them back (as long as they are
still archived at my site) but cannot find it in the manual.

Can someone out there tell me what to do to see these again, so I can save
them as I should have done the first time around??   Thanx in advance.

-- 
	*************************************************************
 	*   Ben Okner                |   Home:                      *
        *   University College       |   4291 Embassy Park Dr. N.W. *
	*   University of Maryland   |   Washington, D.C.  20016    *   
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: mhatz@nyx.cs.du.edu (Macs Suck!)
Subject: Reading in text files to post
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 20:41:34 GMT

I have gotten a copy of the man pages and pored through the reference
commands, but cannot figure out how to read in a text file I have written
that I would like to post.  Thanks for all my other newbie questions that 
have been answered!~

Mike
From: stefans@bauv.unibw-muenchen.de (Stefan Schwarz)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: unsubscribe ALL groups?
Date: 27 Jan 93 09:54:45 GMT
Organization: University of the armed forces, Munich
NNTP-Posting-Host: bauv106.bauv.unibw-muenchen.de

wdevine@andrew.cea.pvamu.edu (William Devine II) writes:

>Is there anyway to have a new .newsrc file put a new users directory that
>has all of the groups unselected?  Also, if this is possible, how could
>they edit the .newsrc file with vi to add whichever and only whichever groups
>they desired.  This is the much preferred way than to have to go to 
>all 2800 groups and Unsubscribe.  any takers?

How about:
mv .newsrc .newsrc.orig 
sed -e 's/:/!/' .newsrc.orig > .newsrc

This changes all groups to unsubscribed.
After then, you could change '!' to ':' for your favourite groups within an editor.

	Stefan
--
Stefan Schwarz                            University of the armed forces
Laboratory for graphical data processing  W-8014 Neubiberg, FRG
--
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: kurt@dna.lth.se (Kurt Swanson)
Subject: Help from Macro guru sought.
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:58:52 GMT

I read a few news groups in the Swedish language.  Unfortunately quite
a few sites (not to mention nn) are not completely 8-bit clean, so the
last 3 letters of the swedish alphabet show up as brackets.  This is
quite annoying to read.  Thus I would like to run these articles
through a pipe to translate them into 8-bit.  I wrote the following
macro to do the pipe:

map show | macro 1
define 1
  save-full "|tr '}{|][\\' '\'>/tmp/knn"
  goto-group "/tmp/knn"
  'a'
  continue
end

This works fine, but I have to hit "|" every time I get the bad
characters, and this puts me up a level such that when I finish
reading the translated copy, I return to the untranslated.  What I
would like is some way to see the translated message within nn without
jumping up a level.

Ideally I would like all messages in certain newsgroups to be piped
through the above tr statement before I see them. If this is not
possible i would like some sort of translation style like rot13 ("D"
in reading mode).  This translates what one sees, but doesn't jump up
a level...

Maybe my above solution could be modified such that "n" is
automatically enacted when I return down to the untranslated article.
Is this possible?

Any other ideas?
-- 
Kurt Swanson, Dept. of Computer Science,
Lunds universitet.  Kurt.Swanson@dna.lth.se
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Subject: Failure to Interrupt with ^C
Reply-To: Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:09:22 GMT

Several revisions ago, if I made a mistake using nn I was able to
hit ^C (Control-C), my "intr" character, and it would abort the
operation (shell command spawn, followup (before getting to vi), or
whatever.

That has not worked for quite some time for me and I make enough
mistakes to miss it.  Does anyone know what setting I might have
changed either in the code or in my init file, to mess things up
for myself like this?  Or if this was an intentional change in the
code, could someone point out where, so I can change it back?

Thanks!
-- 
 Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com      Happy Man Corp.  206/463-9399 x101
 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon Island, WA  98070-7399   fax x108
 We publish SOLID VALUE for the intelligent investor.   NextMail OK
Info free; sample $20.  Send POSTAL addrs: Solid-Value@Happy-Man.com
From: wohler@hw1175.sap-ag.de (Bill Wohler)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: New nn user questions
Date: 23 Jan 93 15:05:11 GMT
Reply-To: Bill Wohler <wohler@sap-ag.de>
Organization: SAP AG  Walldorf, Germany
Phone: +49 6227-341658  Home: +49 6221-163255
             <nestabro.727727985@nova>
X-Mailer: MH [Version 6.8]

> How do I search for a new newsgroup using only a keyword and then have it
> added to my .newsrc?

  here is an answer that will appear in the soon-to-be-posted new faq.
  to actually add the newsgroup, you'll have to 'G'o to it and
  'U'n-unsubscribe to it.

  hmmm, hell of a mnemonic.  just had a thought: have 'U'nsubscribe
  just unsubscribe; have 'G' offer to subscribe to a newsgroup when
  going to an unsubscribed newsgroup.  comments?

Subject: + How can I see which newsgroups are available?
From: Using nn-50

  To see a list of all news groups with a short description, use the
  command ":post" and type '?'.  To list groups that match a regular
  expression (ie. pattern), use "/pattern" instead of '?'.  --<Sven
  Guckes> guckes@math.fu-berlin.de

  Also try using '?' when going to a group with the 'G' command.  Note
  that successive '?'s will display more groups when there is not
  enough room to display all choices at once.  Group completion is
  achieved with ' ' (space).

  Finally, the program "nnsub" can be used to easily view newsgroup
  names and descriptions and also to subscribe to groups.  This
  program will appear in the "contrib" area of the sources in 6.4.19. 

  [1.93]
  
> closest I've found on nn is -mxX -sSubject all.  This just merges all
> newsgroups with given subject into one, let's me read them and then doesn't
> add them to my .newsrc.  What's worse, it doesn't even tell me what groups
> I'm looking at!  This is very frustrating.

  when you read the articles, the newsgroup that the article belongs
  to appears in the bottom line.  also, if you don't merge them with
  'm', then articles will be presented in their respective newsgroup.

> Also, how do I tell nn _not_ to search for new newsgroups every time I
> invoke it?

  remove NEW from your presentation sequence.  if you don't have one,
  create one to override the system presentation sequence (usually
  found in /usr/local/lib/nn/init).  see the pertinent section in the
  man page for details.

> I've gone through an nn manual, but it hasn't seemed to help.  Any
> assistance would be greatly appreciated.

  also check out that faq that will soon appear in this newsgroup.

  enjoy!  once i got used to nn, i never looked at rn again.

						--bw
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: kurt@dna.lth.se (Kurt Swanson)
Subject: That darned nnspew!!!
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:20:51 GMT

For some time our system manager has been grumbling about "some
program that fills up the /usr partition 4 times daily."  It would
fill up the remaining 3.5Mb, then exit, without a trace, having
deleted it 3.5Mb woth of file(s).  Lo and behold it was nnspew that
was the culprit.  We found out that it wants to write out a temporary
file of OVER 8 Mb's four times daily!  We solved the problem by
recompiling with a different TMPDIR, where we had an extra 8Mb, but
it's quite annoying that it needs so much, as well as that it left no
trace of itself having caused any problems - including in the Log
file...
-- 
Kurt Swanson, Dept. of Computer Science,
Lunds universitet.  Kurt.Swanson@dna.lth.se
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: kris@black.toppoint.de (Kristian Koehntopp)
Subject: Re: 2 nn questions
X-Excuse: X-Copyright wegen Emma, Suedwestpresse und /C'T/DISKUSSIONEN.
Organization: Toppoint Mailbox e.V.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:36:38 GMT
X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 1993 Kristian Koehntopp -- All rights reserved.
		 Reproduktion, auch auszugsweise, ausserhalb elektronischer,
		 nichtkommerzieller Datennetze nur mit ausdruecklichem,
		 schriftlichem Einverstaendnis des Autors.

In <C1922u.2Hw@clw.cs.man.ac.uk> chl@clw.cs.man.ac.uk (Charles Lindsey) writes:
>Well, when I type !echo %, it just flashes the path on the screen for 0.5sec
>and then shows me a clear screen with just a ! prompt at the top.

Don't know. Obvious workarounds: Use the scrollbar of your
xterm, if you have one or use "echo % | less". I cannot
reproduce your problem at my NeXTstation.

Kristian
-- 
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/Times-BoldItalic findfont setfont 36 36 scale 0 4 m{p 12 2 index stringwidth
pop s 2 div e m show p 0 e 1 s dup 4 e s 4 div setgray m}forall showpage
From: wdevine@andrew.cea.pvamu.edu (William Devine II)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: unsubscribe ALL groups?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 00:26:41 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: andrew.cea.pvamu.edu

Is there anyway to have a new .newsrc file put a new users directory that
has all of the groups unselected?  Also, if this is possible, how could
they edit the .newsrc file with vi to add whichever and only whichever groups
they desired.  This is the much preferred way than to have to go to 
all 2800 groups and Unsubscribe.  any takers?

william c devine, ii

--
                                  William C. Devine, II
------------------------------------------------------------------------
DECnet:     pvhep::devine       Internet:   wdevine@andrew.cea.pvamu.edu
            		                    devine@pvhep.pvamu.edu
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes)
Subject: Re: printing
Originator: guckes@medusa
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:01:03 GMT

rsm@world.std.com (Robert Marlan) writes:

>If i'm reading news and want to print a particular article that i'm 
>reading directly to my ansi connected printer what command would I give.
>any options to include all the headers??

Portrait mode (big letters) for small articles that fit on one page.

Strip all boring header lines!
Just leave the most interesting ones: From:, Subject:, Date:.
(Seldomly Organization:, Reply-To:, Sender:.)

No line count or surrounding borders needed.

Use a header when you want to hang it onto a board and make it descriptive,
eg "Job offer", "Important", "All employees read this", "Good joke".

When printing with command 'P' from within nn I use a subset of the following
to pipe to our laser printer:
	a2ps -nh -nn -ns -p | lpr

Sven :)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: keld@login.dkuug.dk (Keld J|rn Simonsen)
Subject: nn developers list
Organization: DKnet
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:22:09 GMT

I have tried several times to be put on the developers list for nn,
without any result as yet. I hope by this message to get in touch with
the maintainer of the list, as I would like together with  a collegue
of mine to get on the list. The two addresses are:

Keld@dkuug.dk  (Keld Simonsen)
Fallesen@login.dkuug.dk  (Jens Fallesen)

Regards
Keld
From: wohler@hw1175.sap-ag.de (Bill Wohler)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: New FAQ Submitted
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:35:31 GMT
Reply-To: Bill Wohler <wohler@sap-ag.de>
Organization: SAP AG  Walldorf, Germany
Phone: +49 6227-341658  Home: +49 6221-163255
X-Mailer: MH [Version 6.8]

Folks,

  A new FAQ has been submitted to the pit-manager FAQ server and
  should appear soon.  For future reference, instructions for
  obtaining the faq via anonymous ftp and mail are included at the end
  of this message.

  Things of note:

  o patches and sources are now relegated to end of faq in hopes of
    making the faq more accessible.

  o ftp sites substantially updated, but could still use work (with
    your help!). 


			  Changed questions

Viewing This Article
  Mention that dates of last update are now added.
  
2.  What is the current version/status of nn?
  Talk about upcoming patch 19 and Peter's new address.

3.  Where can I get nn?
4.  What references exist for nn?
  Updated ftp and mail server sites.

11. Is it possible to restrict the groups that users have access to?
  Added warning about it not working with NNTP.
  
24. Can all non-selected subjects be automatically placed in my kill file?
  Means of obtaining source to do this provided.

32. Can I use my mailer to send mail?
  Bit about aliases moved into its own question.

34. Can I choose newsgroups as I do articles, ie. with a menu?
  Pointer to new question "How can I see which newsgroups are
  available?" given.

			    New questions

48. How do I search for an author in a menu?
49. Can nn use aliases when sending mail?
50. How can I see which newsgroups are available?
64. Why do I get "cannot open 'x' file"

  The following new appendices used to appear within the text of the
  faq.  I've pulled them out to make the text more readable.

pack_date.c
news.c
nn-use-mh
nn_elm
nnalias

    
			  Obtaining the FAQ

  By anonymous ftp:
    pit-manager.mit.edu	[18.72.1.58]	/pub/usenet/news.answers/mh-faq
					/pub/usenet/news.answers/nn-faq
    ftp.uu.net [137.39.1.9]		/archive/usenet/news.answers/mh-faq.Z
					/archive/usenet/news.answers/nn-faq.Z

  By uucp:
    uunet!/archive/usenet/news.answers/mh-faq.Z
    uunet!/archive/usenet/news.answers/nn-faq.Z

  By mail:
    Send mail to mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu containing one (or
    both) of the following:
  
	send usenet/news.answers/mh-faq
	send usenet/news.answers/nn-faq


						--bw
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: Failure to Interrupt with ^C
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:46:52 GMT
Organization: Recognition Equipment, Inc.

irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe) writes:

>Several revisions ago, if I made a mistake using nn I was able to
>hit ^C (Control-C), my "intr" character, and it would abort the
>operation (shell command spawn, followup (before getting to vi), or
>whatever.

I'm not sure what you were running, but for me, Ctrl-G will abort just
about anything while still in NN.  If you go to the editor it won't
work, of course, but if NN is asking a question and you just want to
back out entirely, Ctrl-G will do it.

-- 
#ifdef TRUE        | Fuzzy Fox (a.k.a. David DeSimone)       fuzzy@netcom.com
#define  TRUE   0  |
#define  FALSE  1  |         "S-O-C-K-S ?   Wow, Spanish *is* easy!!"
#endif             |
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes)
Subject: On the use of "(Q)" and "(A)"
Originator: guckes@medusa
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:45:10 GMT

The subject lines in other groups contain the SUFFIX "(Q)" for "question"
and "(A)" for "answer" instead of the widely used "Re:" PREFIX.

Could nn be configured to understand this formet as well to have the
subjects sorted for the menu ?
Does this sound like an feature request ? (hint hint)

Sven :)