From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Heisman.. what a farce.. Faulk was screwed
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:29:34 GMT
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In article <78206@hydra.gatech.EDU>, mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
> kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi) wrote:
> }
> }Faulk:  
> }
> }1600+ yds rushing. Granted, he played in the WAC. But look 
> }at what he did in *BIG* games.
> }
> }        USC: 220 yds
> }        UCLA: 148 yds
> }        BYU: 299 yds
> }        Hawaii: 300 yds
> 
> My stats show Faulk with 118 yards against UCLA.  Also 129 yards and
> 0 TD's against Air Force and just 21 yards (before a 1st quarter
> injury) against Fresno State.  

He cannot be expected to get 
200+ yds every game, even against WAC teams. The 21 yds against Fresno
St was on 2 carries. He was injured on the 2nd play and didn't play 
again for the rest of the season.

> SDSU fell out of first place in the
> WAC by losing the former and effectively fell out of bowl contention
> by losing the 2nd.  Those are both, therefore, pretty "big" games.

That was their 1st conf loss. SDSU lost it when they lost to Fresno St.

> Faulk of course didn't even play in the "biggest" SDSU game of
> the season - against Miami - also due to injury.  

Whats a 'big' game? Against strong non-conf teams. Against strong 
conf teams. Games that mean something in the conf. Faulk played in
2 of 3 games against strong non-conf opponents (USC 220 yds, UCLA 
128 yds). He had 299 yds at BYU, and 300 yds vs. WAC champion Hawaii,
and didn't play vs. FresnoSt.

The AirForce game was the one game he didn't play upto his usual 200+
yd stds. But 100+ ain't no 'bad' performance. 

> }Hearst:
> }
> }1500+ yds, [thats less than what Faulk got in 2
> }fewer games], 21 TDs. What did he do in big games?
> }
> }        Florida: 40+ yds (60+ yds catches)
> }        Miss (or was it MissSt?): 40+ yds
> }	GTech: 100+ yds
> }
> }Not Heisman material. 1500+ yds in the SEC. But mostly against weak SEC teams.
> }When it came to producing big against strong SEC teams? naw..
> 
> This is even more slanted and unfair than your characterization of
> Faulk in "big" games.
> 
> First, Hearst scored 21 TD's this season breaking the single season
> SEC record of Heisman winner Herschel Walker, and Hearst set the 
> single season yards-per-carry record for the SEC, breaking the one
> set by Heisman winner Bo Jackson.  To say that Hearst is not Heisman
> material is some really uncalled-for poor sportsmanship.

Scoring TDs is a function of what the team generally does in goal-line
situations. Some teams give the ball to their best RB. Some give it to
their big up back for the last 2 yds. Some like to throw play action
passes to TEs. You can score a bunch of TDs and yet not get good rushing
yds, or vice versa. 

Yeah, the 7.1 yds/carry is impressive. I'll give you that. Hearst, Heisman
material? yes. Better than Faulk? No. 

> As for "big" games, here is how Hearst did:
> 
> Team          Total offense    Rush   Pass     TD's
> ==========================================================
> Tennessee     201              161    40       3
> Ole Miss      118               40    78       1
> Florida       108               41    67       0
> Auburn        132              105    27       2
> Ga. Tech      169+             169     ?       3
> So Hearst wasn't dominant against Florida, and he had low rushing
> yardage against Mississippi because they employed an 8-man front
> designed to hold him in check (and subsequently gave up nearly
> 400 yards passing, including 78 receiving for Hearst.)
> -- 
> Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu

They were doing that [8man front] to Faulk from the 2nd game 
onward. And still he had 100+,200+ performances. I know it's difficult
to run on any team's 8man front. And in SDSU's scheme they don't 
throw to their RBs. They use a 1 back set, and use 3 WRs and 1 TE
all the time. Basically we are comparing performances of Faulk
vs. USC, UCLA, BYU. Hawaii, AirForce and Hearst's performance
vs. Tenn, Ole Miss, Flo. Auburn, GaTech. IMO, Faulk was better.







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