HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: honig@ruffles.ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Subject: Re: lsd
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Organization: UC Disneyland, in the Kingdom of Bren
Date: 19 Nov 92 04:21:19 GMT

 v055rylr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amy Pascale) writes:
>
>
>from what i know, not only is it detectable in your spinal tap fluid, but in
>your hair as well.

Its detectable in any fluid, CSF isn't special, for about a day, iff you
use very expensive equiptment NOT used for common screening.  And
a spinal tap leaves you in pain for a week, and is dangerous; it
has nothing to do with testing.

And your hair won't retain lsd, as its metabolized and gone from your
body in ad day.  its water soluable.  your employer might try to
intimidate the ignorant though.

>
>
>keep smilin'
>amygurl

hard not to at times



--
David Honig

Gun control is hitting your target.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: vetter@mtu.edu (STEVEN J. VETTER)
Subject: Re: LSD...
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:57:51 GMT

at990@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David William Daniels) writes:
>
>So how long is acid detectable in ones body and any traces of it? 
>How reliable is your information? 
>.Would appreciate any responses asap.
>Also, how reliable is goldenseal & zydot with all marijuana tests, and
>the most common ones from courts...
>
>Peace out.

  The way I understand it, acid is not detectable by the normal "piss test", 
  or even a blood test.  Once your body processes LSD, which I understand 
  it does quite quickly, it is stored in the fluid surrounding your spinal  
  cord. I believe it would require a sample of that fluid, a test known as a 
  "spinal tap", which is not a simple nor pleasant procedure.
  
  My information is no more reliable than any other "heresay", but I`m sure
  that Lamont will more accurately answer your question as soon as he gets   
  around to it.

  Steve
  vetter@mtu.edu
From: Sean.P.Donahue@dartmouth.edu (Sean P. Donahue)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: I seek references to "crack baby" refutations
Date: 15 Nov 92 17:12:32 GMT
 <1992Nov14.230851.10135@cs.rochester.edu>  
 <1992Nov15.023635.29444@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Nov15.023635.29444@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:

> In response to the above I got the below from Mr Frank.   If
> a list of decent references are posted I can compile them and post
> them to satisfy his request.

In _Steal this Urine Test_, Abbie Hoffman cites a study which indicates
that so-called crack babies are actually suffering from neglect and
malnutrition.  The neglect and malnutrition stem from their caretaker's
adiction, but aren't direct pysical  effects of crack.  I don't have
the book with me, if someone else does and can find the name of the
study, that would probably be somewhat more convinving.  For those of
you who are only familiar with Hoffman's earlier work,  _Steal this
Urine Test_ is factual and reasoned, and is nothing like _Steal this
Book_, _Woodstock Nation_, etc.

Sean Donahue
(sean.p.donahue@dartmouth.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.rave
From: cliftonr@netcom.com (Pope Clifton)
Subject: Re: FDA gives approval to testing of ecstasy
Organization: t.b, t.p.d, & a.d
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:57:31 GMT

Robert Cain (rcain@netcom.com) wrote:
: Hmmm, I did not know it was possible to get permission to do research
: on a schedule I substance.  Many things I have read more or less presented
: the impossibility as fact and I accepted it.  Anybody know the real facts?

  I think investigating Schedule I drugs requires a special license from 
the DEA, which they are not too ready to hand out.  Doesn't Shulgin mention
that in his book?
 
: BTW does anybody know of any X busts?  Not a pharmacopia bust but just X.

  I'm currently visiting scenic Auburn, CA on business.  The local paper had
a big story about a local construction employer who hired a PI company to
do a big undercover investigation on their employees' alcohol and drug use.
At the end of the investigation they hauled in all of the suspected - not
identified - drug users, and interrogated them.  Nearly all of them broke
down and confessed; apparently this investigation company specializes in this
type of thing and really knew how to put the screws to them.  Big dossiers
with the employee's name stamped on the top, "We know exactly what you've
been up to", etc.  Many of the employees named other employees who were then
hauled in and given the same treatment.  Only a few had the sense to stonewall,
deny everything, and say "Show me your evidence."  Those few, with no evidence
against them except hearsay, wound up keeping their jobs.  The majority who
confessed, whether to drinking at the lunch hour or to smoking pot at home,
were immediately fired.  The company professed sorrow at being driven to this,
and surprise that all of the remaining employees felt totally betrayed by
their employer.
  The connection is that they also brought in the state cops for the minority
of cases where they had evidence of dealing, and one of the guys was busted
(reportedly) for selling 2.4g of Ecstasy.

  -- Clifton

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: More misinformation????(X-stasy)
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:22:39 GMT

bruceg@Cadence.COM (Bruce Gustifson) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.143554.8465@aston.ac.uk> braindl@uhura.aston.ac.uk (DL BRAIN) writes:
>>MDMA.  The tabs contained anything from MDA, MDA/Aphetamine, LSD/Aphetamine to
>>pure cafine...(geees what would 2g of cafine do to you)
>                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>  Is 2 g's the amount of E in a dose? This seems like an awful lot, especially when
>compared with LSD. 

Try 100mg (1/10 gram or "dime) of E (or less if you want to really be realistic)
   
-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jcherney@envy.reed.edu (Joel Alexander Cherney)
Subject: Re: "ex" smokers of MJ
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:16:08 GMT
Reply-To: jcherney@reed.edu

John C. Baez writes
> In article <1992Nov14.114618.29569@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mleayr@nyx.cs.du.edu (matthew  
leayr) writes:
> 
> >Hi,
> >     I know several people who used to smoke large amounts of marijuana
> >but no longer touch it because it "freaks them out too much" or they "cant
> >handle it". When quizzed as to why they don't smoke anymore, they are often
> >reluctant to even talk about it and shrug it off. This puzzles me.
> 
> Some people feel paranoid when they smoke marijuana.  Here I am using
> "paranoid" in a colloquial sense, as opposed to any psychological
> definition thereof.  I.e., they feel marijuana makes them alienated,
> unable to relate smoothly to people, nervous, depressed, nihilistic, or
> whatever.  Some people I know got to feeling this way after smoking a
> lot even though they liked it initially.  It's easy to imagine why
> people you know might be reluctant to discuss it... they don't want to
> go back those unpleasant moments, or have people think they are weird.  

Well, this describes me currently.  I have found it very difficult to relate to people on pot  
recently, unless they're my very close friends.  Kind of a bummer, because I still really  
enjoy smoking it.  But it's been a while; and I never pictured myself as a heavy user (except  
for a period of about two or three months, during which I smoked quite heavily).
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: JJACO02@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (Jacoby, James Derek)
Subject: Re: Pittsburgh 1991 articles
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:21:09 GMT

 
  O.K., so these civil forfeiture laws are an incredible abuse of power and nee
d to be stopped. What can be done about it? I'm broke, so I can't send money to
 anybody, but if I knew where to send them I could write a bunch of suitably ou
traged letters. Are there any public action groups in the Houston area to fight
 this shit? (Sorry about the language, but that is what it is.)
  I hope this posting doesn't constitute grounds for suspicion that I'm involve
d with drugs thus allowing them to steal everything I own, but from the sounds
of things they don't need all that much more evidence to do so.
 
--Derek
 
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From: mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu (David Hutton)
Subject: Cures for the Red Eye Syndrome
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:04:09 GMT

Besides Visine Extra (which works for the most part for me) are there any 
really* good redness reliever eye drops that work quickly and remove most
of the red?

My question:

What is your favorite eye-clearer?


-- 
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From: v064lnev@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Avatar)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Dracula (Movie recommendation for the sensory enhanced)
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:28:00 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hi Folks!

	I _highly_ recommend the new Francis Ford Coppola film, Dracula, for
the sensory enhanced.  This is perhaps Coppola's finest work; a truely
magnificent film throughout.

Have fun!
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: pjm@isis.cshl.org (Pat Monardo)
Subject: Re: "ex" smokers of MJ
Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Labs
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:50:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.165507.22349@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.051136.25026@u.washington.edu> lamontg@stein.u.wash
>ngton.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes:
>>Yeah, it tends to make me zone and get tired, and also makes me kind of
>>dysphoric.  I therefore don't tend to do it alot.  Its just my reaction
>>to MJ.

it may have alot to do with "set" and "setting". when i starting
smoking pot in the early 70's, it was in a symbiotic relationship
with a heavy Rock and Roll scene. smoking pot all afternoon
waiting for a Jethro Tull concert was an incredible rush.
those few Tull concerts enhanced with some fine pot are some
of my finest memories. Tull and marijuana were a match
made in heaven. outstanding. somehow pot and Metallica
wouldn't be the same.

-- 
-- Pat Monardo
-- pjm@cshl.org
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From: ET_SWARZ@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Schwarz Ulrich      )
Subject: Re: Poppers
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:27:58 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <1992Nov22.142205.30865@ux1.cts.eiu.edu> cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu writes:

> In article <Qf3iCiu00WB68RxKUO@andrew.cmu.edu> Seth Malcolm Redmore <sr2s+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> >
> >I was under the impression that poppers were nitrites, not
> >nitrates.
> >
> >Am I deluded?  Have I been lied to?  Am I just too tired of trying
> >to stick a Rhodium in my ligand that I am hallucinating and
> >dreaming all of this?
> 
>     I don't know.  If someone has told you that poppers are nitrates and
> not nitrites, yes.  Could be.
> 
poppers simply contain isobutylNITRITES.
From: un040367@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Sources of HBWR
Date: 21 Nov 92 10:13:56 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

Greetings, fellow innerspace travellers and explorers...As always, I am in
search of something (aren't we all?)...Horus Botanicals list price on HBWR
seeds is 5 for $5.00...Is is available anywhere else, cheaper? I trust Horus to
send them, and have doubts concerning the ads in the back of high times...
Any info would be greatly appreciated!

Zeek/Arial
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: cjf49655@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chuck)
Subject: Re: help me!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:33:41 GMT

glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier) writes:

>Niacin (also called Niacinamide, or vitamin b- ... 12 I think) will
>help counteract the psychological effects of LSD. Start with a 4gram dose,
>and wait a day or so to see if it helps; don't overdo it.

>-- 
>"Faahk Ohhf Yoo Buhm, I Keehl Youu!!" - Lupo The Butcher
>glazier@isr.harvard.edu    internet  | Convictions cause
>glazier@harvunxw           bitnet    | Convicts.

nonono...niacin and niacinamide arent the same exactly. taking lots of niacin
will give you a niacin flush, characterized by a warm prickly feeling all over
your skin.  Niacinamide won't do this.  It's the niacin flush that is supposed
to abort a trip, but whether thisis actually true, beyond the psychosomatic 
level, is rather questionable.


-- 
Chuck Falzone
cjf49655@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: mjcrouch@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Matt J. Crouch)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Brands of LSD
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:18:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dept. of CS Ball State University Muncie IN

In article <ringo.721963981@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> ringo@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Ringo) writes:
>jscsp@acad3.alaska.edu (PARKER CHRIS S) writes:
>
>>I also heard the guy who originally made the stuff, fell into a vat of the
>>stuff, but this is undoubtfully urban legend.
>
No, my god.  You would turn into a vegetable!  The original doctor who
isolated LSD-25 (d-lysergic acid dieythlamide) was Dr. Albert Hoffman in
1943.  His actual account of the experiments states that while isolating
the compound and working with its chemical derivitaves, he accidently
intoxicated himself.  He says :"I could not imagine how this compound
could have accidently found its way into my body in a sufficent quantity
to produce such [hallucinogenic] phenomena."
Little did he know!!



Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (siggie )
Subject: Re: acid and sickness
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 05:35:13 GMT

Somewhere in Cyberspace, pwh@bradley.bradley.edu said about 'acid and
sickness': 
|In <1992Nov22.154132.28856@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> gaspar@inf.ethz.ch
|(gaspo) writes: 
|>Be carefull, if this happens, the high-level can wind up thinking that
|>the low-level has interupted, about once every five minutes. 
|>Which wouldn't be so bad, except for when you actually do go try to
|>shake the weasel, things get _real_ strange.  I guess the appropriate
|>term would be "re-aquainted" with your, er, functions.  It then becomes
|>a battle to convince your low-level that it really is ok to let go now.
|
|This is amusing.  The most succinct description for me was something
|I said once, along the lines of "I had to go to the bathroom all the
|time.  It was like the Bathroom was everything, it was eternal,
|it was infinite."

This sounds amazingly similar to Eon's Fear:  The Mindkiller.

"I must not pee.  Pee is the toilet filler.  I must not pee."

"It has no beginning, no end......"

=)

|Guess you had to be there.  Good to see that someone has an explanation
|of the phenomenon though....

|-- 
|Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
|          When you're swimmin in a creek, and an eel bites your cheek,
|                               That's a Moray...

nice quote!  laugh of the day....

--
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: Jeremy Matz <ILMJ@cornella.cit.cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Ultimate Acid Movie
X-Xxdate: Sat, 21 Nov 92 11: 49:53 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: jam3@cornell.edu
Organization: The Hemp Coalition at Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:46:52 GMT

'I rented a movie Allegro Non Troppo' yestyerday.  It is a Spainish
'Fantasia'.  If you like Classical music and you especially like
classical music on acid then this movie is for you.  It is more mature
than Fantasia, and more humorous.  It has some vivid social commentary on
man's conquer/destruction of nature.

																																																						Whoever makes fun
of hugging trees, has never hugged a tree.

																																																																				
Jeremy Matz
From: honig@ruffles.ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Subject: Re: acid and sickness
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Organization: UC Disneyland, in the Kingdom of Bren
Date: 23 Nov 92 05:43:30 GMT

>>In article <BxzA04.I6t@acsu.buffalo.edu> v055rylr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amy Pascale) writes:
>>>
>>>	this weekend, two friends and i were tripping, and one of them got
>>>really sick. he equated it with being drunk, that it was as if his body was
>>
>>This has happened to various folks I know.  Some of the more uninhibited
>>folks here may enjoy describing what it can be like to go to the
>>bathroom while tripping.

There is little better way to feel at peace with the universe than to
act like the proverbial bear whilst tripping...

so long as you can still identify poison oak...

--
David Honig

Gun control is hitting your target.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: backpack@access.digex.com (Stuart Reges)
Subject: Re: Is WOSD being won?
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:05:41 GMT

rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:

>The following appeared over in sci.crypt and seems to present statistics
>considerably different than I have seen over here.  Any comments?
>Any refutations (please)?
>
>[various statistics showing progress in the WOD based on 1990 usage]

Bennet's numbers are definitely misleading.  1990 was something of an anomaly.
Several stats did indicate some progress, but things have since gotten worse.
I don't have NIDA statistics from 1985 to compare against, so I can't give a
detailed refutation, although I'm interested enough in it that I'll try to do
so sometime in the next week.  I wanted to buy the latest NIDA books from the
Government Printing Office, and if they have the 1985 books, I'll buy them as
well.  I seem to recall from a conversation I had with DPF folks that the most
bogus thing Bennet did was to talk about reduction in the category of most
casual use.  The government asks people if they have used drugs in the last
year, last month, and last week.  His big reductions were in the category of
people who had used drugs in the last year.  There were not similar reductions
in the other categories.  In others words, there was less experimentation, but
the true drug users were not tapering off significantly.  Again, I'll see if I
can post something more definitive.

In the meantime, I will post 2 recent Washington Post articles in followup
messages that directly refute several of the statistics you mentioned.

+---------------+------------------------------------------------------------+
|               | Stuart Reges (guest aRreSt?) backpack@access.digex.com     |
|               |                                                            |
|  b      p     | Glimpses do ye seem to see of that mortally intolerable    |
|   a      a    | truth; that all deep, earnest thinking is but the intrepid |
|    c      c   | effort of the soul to keep the open independence of her    |
|     k      k  | sea; while the wildest winds of heaven and earth conspire  |
|               | to cast her on the treacherous, slavish shore?             |
|               | --Herman Melville, Moby Dick                               |
+---------------+------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: Jesus, Drugs, & Me
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:29:01 GMT

drumm@cnsvax.uwec.edu (Danny) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.224723.2368@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, degroomp@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>> No offence to you Dan, but obviously you have never taken LSD... I am speaking
>> as a recovering drug addict and abuser... It is extremely difficult
>> to determine Reality from fantasy while the fire hydrant on the 
>> corner turns into a large green and red dragon which begins to
>> breath fire on you.

No its not.  Large green and red dragons are a wonderful indication that
you're not in the consensus reality. 

>>  Now that I am sober I find it much easier to beleive
>> that this dragon was merely a figment of my imagination and NOT
>> a miracle from God...

Miracle from God?  Figment of imagination?

Not either.

The sensory highway of your brain is firing so fast that signals are getting
crossed.  Its most certainly not a miracle, and you're not imagining anything,
its just that its internal to your mind and not external to you.

>> However, giving you some credit it IS 
>> possible that this dragon was a message from God that I should
>> have quit drugs and lead a "religiuos" life...

Well, whatever, believe what you want to...

>> However, I realized
>> how fucked up I was through RATIONALITY... I was broke fixed on
>> various substances and my life was shit.

Congratulations.

Now realize that others are not broke, not fixed on substances, and can
use LSD without any problems.  Prohibition just throws them in jail becuase
*you* can't handle a substance that *they* can.  It at *least* needs to
be decriminalized...

>The text above was posted by a student to one of our local newsgroups.
>
>Comments anyone?

Yup.

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: c9221777@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (David Peterson)
Subject: The Good Old Bucket Bong.
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:03:04 GMT
X-Posted-From: possum.newcastle.edu.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

I read a few hundred posts back concerning the "gravity bong" - more common and
simple is the good old bucket bong.

Get a plastic bottle and cut the bottom off.
Drill a hole in the lid to place to cone - you may need to blu-tack any gaps.
Place the bottle in the water so that it fills up with water.
Light the cone and pull up, the smoke will be sucked into the bottle.
When finished, reomve cap - place over mouth - drop or quickly lower bottle.
This will force the smoke into your lungs in one big hit.

This is the most effective method I have yet seen.  DO NOT USE TOBACCO.  I made
this mistake once with a stright 'bakky cone.  The spin will be enormous but
you may be too busy coughing and trying to breathe to appreciate it.

--
my name is dave - and I am funky
(moving to LNPGP@cc.newcastle.edu.au by the end of November)
From: twiggs_te@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Rolling on XTC
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:18:47 EST
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC


	For all you X-perts:

	Most of you may have encountered the same side eff-X as myself while
rolling:  _intense_ eye movement (hence the word 'rolling').

	I was just wondering:  Why do your eyes do this?  I've seen people
rolling so hard, all you could see was white - no pupils available.  Is it
the chemicals, or just the fact you're feeling so good?


					Always wondered but never asked,

								DJ X

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