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From: kenm@compctr.ccs.csus.edu (Ken Montgomery)
Subject: Here's a place to buy Star Trek stuff.
Summary: One of the mail-order companies with ST tos/tmp stuff.
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:41:12 GMT

	One day on the way home from a local computer swap meet I spied
a person with a tent set up that was full of Star Trek items for sale.
Having never seen a Star Trek street vendor before I just HAD to stop.
	His business is called Orion Traders, and the Items he had looked
quite impressive. He had several very well made uniforms (ST:tmp ST:tng 
and Klingon) and a good assortment of hand props (there was even a 1991
Hallmark ornament there ($200! *gasp*)). Anyway, I've seen several 
people here asking about the window stickers that say Starfleet Academy
along with other items so I'm posting the address and phone # of Orion
Traders in case anyone would like to look into what he's carrying. He
seemed to interested in carrying the best items, and has a catalog
available for just a $1.

Orion Traders
P.O. Box 611
Fair Oaks, CA  95628
(916) 966-SHIP (7447)

I have NO connection with Orion Traders, I just bought some of their stuff.
So if they turn out to be real slimes don't blame me! 
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Latest ST:TNG Schedule (as of 9/24/92)
Date: 9 Oct 92 04:08:15 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout


127   9/19/92  227  46001.3	Time's Arrow Part II
128   9/26/92  228  46041.1	Realm of Fear
129  10/03/92  229  46071.6	Man of the People
130  10/10/92  230		Relics
131  10/17/92  231		Schisms
132  10/24/92  232		Q-Me
133  10/31/92  233		Rascals
134  11/07/92  234		A Fistful of Datas
135  11/14/92  235		The Quality of Life
     11/21/92  227R 46001.3	Time's Arrow Part II
     11/28/92  228R 46041.1	Realm of Fear
     12/05/92  229R 46071.6	Man of the People

The date is the first date of satellite uplink.  Paramount's official
'week of' is two days later.  Stardates will be added when known.
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From: wwo@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Thomas Schoene)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Idea For Weapon 
Date: 10 Oct 92 00:12:27 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

In article <1992Oct6.152548.19383@ncsu.edu>,
rhballan@eos.ncsu.edu (ROBERT HAMI BALLANTINE) writes: 
> 
> I watched "Best of Both Worlds I" (again) last night
> and came up with a good idea for a weapon to fight
> the borg with during hand to hand.  Instead of using phasers
> which can be adapted to, they should replicate some 20th
> ccentury hand-guns or machine guns.  Let's see the borg
> adapt to a .357 slug up their ass!
If the Borg can come up with shields that will stop a hand phaser capable of
vaporizing a human being what good is a puny kinetic energy weapon that won't
even reliably (95%+) kill one?  Seriously, you might get one but the Borg might
even be able to analyse it in flight and figure a counter.  After one hit, you
can bet that they'd have a solution quickly. 
-- 
Tom Schoene
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From: rmanning@vax1.tcd.ie
Subject: Re: O'Brien and thoughts on rank
Summary: Transporter chief's rank vs. position.
Keywords: O'Brien,Miles Edward.
Reply-To: self
Organization: Trinity College Dublin
Distribution: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:38:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.180851.3046@wkuvx1.bitnet>, cabanc@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
> 
> 	After following the chain about O'Brien's rank I can't help
> but put my 2 Cents in.  First, I think the reason everybody thinks
> there are no enlisted ranks in Starfleet comes from one of the
> technical manuals printed about the old Star Trek.  It really doesn't
> make sense that a group as large as starfleet has no enlisted ranks.  

  _Didn't the tech. manual simply say there were no enlisted ranks aboard
 CONSTITUTION class vessels? I agree that otherwise it doesn't make sense.


  Aboard the original ENTERPRISE, the Transporter Chief was usually Lt.Kyle.
 He appears in several episodes clearly wearing Lieutenant's stripes.

  Similarly, O'Brien can clearly be seen to be wearing two solid circles on his 
 collar, which in every other reference in ST:TNG denotes the rank of full
 Lieutenant.

> 	As for O'Brien, I believe he's enlisted.  Didn't Worf's
> adopted father call him a "petty officer". 

 _Perhaps on Worf's father's ship, there were enlisted ranks, and the
Transporter chief was an NCO?


> I agree, "Chief" may be his title.  

 _So do I, but I maintain that it has nothing whatever to do with rank, which
is an entirely different matter. In naval terms, for example, the commander of
a vessel may not hold the RANK of Captain, depending on the size/class of his
ship, but would be addressed as "Captain" by his crew, out of respect for his
POSITION. I believe the analogy is logical enough(but then I'm Irish, and
therefore prejudiced in favour of LT.O'Brien:))

Jake Cutter, Lt-Cmdr., NCC 1837, JEWEL OF TAJARHII.
From: mlsdb2gal@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: FASA
Date: 8 Oct 92 10:05:39 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

Starfleet: United Federation of Planets.
Starship USS Excelsior, NCC-2000-C.
Stardate 47682.34.10.49.59
From: Decker, Captain Jason H.
To: All Federation Units.
Re: Star Trek: The Role Playing Game.

Personally I liked the FASA system (despite its faults) I found that
the best thing to do is modify the game to your needs (ie ignore the
timeline and any rules about tactical maps). Otherwise it wasn't THAT
bad a system. 

As to Task Force Games bring out a ST role playing system, well...YUK.

I have played Star Fleet battles, and I do enjoy it. I just can't be
bothered with all the rules. Yes, they DO enhance the game, but they
also take a lot of effort to learn, not to mention slowing the game
considerably. Also, the SFB universe (as someone has already pointed 
out) is so far removed from the 'true' one that it's almost 
unrecogniseable. I once read an editorial in the third volume of rules
that states the authors had tried to stick faithfully to the Trek 
Universe. Well, I admire the work they did, but can't help thinking
they were watching maybe LOST IN SPACE instead. If not for the three
main pwers (and the minor ones) and the ship designs, the SFB universe quite
frankly bears no resemblance to the Trek we know. Not to mention in
all the Historical scenarios given, there is not one mention of Kirk, or
the Enterprise, the most famous (infamous) Captain in Starfleet, and the
Federation flagship. Very odd indeed.

Anyway, that's my opinion (for what it's worth

Live long and prosper (and don't forget to put the cat out)
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From: annie@fatboy.manassas.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: Worf in STVI:TUC
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 14:41:40 GMT
Organization: IBM, Federal Systems Company

In article <Bw25q9.o7@cosy.sbg.ac.at>, bjelli@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Brigitte Jellinek) writes:

He's the great-grandfather of TNGs Worf

-- 
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: upcoming Trek books
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:30:57 GMT

In article <1bffckINNji5@agate.berkeley.edu> hblurfru@spot.wrc.xerox.com writes:
>
>Jan 93:
>"Star Trek: Probe" by Margaret Wander Bonnano

I don't think so...

>"Star Trek TNG Chronology: The History of the Future" by Mike Okuda

This one sounds very interesting... I may once again start bothering
bookstore employees with "is it here yet?  is it here yet?"

>Pocket books has cancelled the hardcover "Star Trek: The God Thing" by Gene 
>Roddenberry and Michael Jan Friedman, because of objections from the
>Roddenberry estate.

I guess they don't like Friedman either. :)
-- 
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Paramount Press Release - #231: Schisms
Date: 9 Oct 92 04:09:05 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout


Schisms

Episode #231			uplink dates: 10/17/92, 10/18/92



                           _S_P_E_L_L_I_N_G_S

	tetryons


				_C_A_S_T

	Captain Jean-Luc Picard			Patrick Stewart
	Commander William Riker			Jonathan Frakes
	Lieutenant Commander Data		Brent Spiner
	Dr. Beverly Crusher			Gates McFadden
	Counselor Deanna Troi			Marina Sirtis
	Lieutenant Commander Geordi LaForge	LeVar Burton
	Lieutenant Worf				Michael Dorn

	Ensign Rager				Lanei Chapman
	Mott					Ken Thorley
	Lieutenant Shipley			Scott T. Trost
	Crewman					Angelo McCabe
	Kaminer					Angelina Fiordellisi
	Medical Technician			John Nelson
	Computer Voice				Majel Barrett
	

	Story by:				Jean Lousie Matthias
						& Ron Wilerson
	Teleplay by:				Brannon Braga
	Directed by:				Robert Wiemer



_P_R_O_G_R_A_M_ _H_I_G_H_L_I_G_H_T_S

	STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION: The Enterprise crew suffers bizarre
	consequences following a secret, unwelcome alien visit.


_T_V_ _G_U_I_D_E_ _A_D_S

	KIDNAPPED!

	An alien force is removing crew members from the ship!


_T_V_ _L_O_G_ _L_I_S_T_I_N_G_S

	Secret alien visit threatens crew/STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION
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From: jlredd@bach.udel.edu (Joshua Smith)
Subject: TNG - Quantum Leap Music Similarities
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:26:52 GMT


I was just watching a repeat of Star Trek :TNG's 3rd season episode
called 'Booby Trap'.  This was the episode when the enterprise found the
10 century old starship, and then got trapped in the astroid field.

Many times during the show when they were looking at the old ship they
played a really cool trumpet tune.  It was the same one they played when
Sam was leaping back and forth from Lee Harvey Oswald (like when they
showed all of the similarites between Sam and LHO, and at the very end
of the show).  It was the exact same trumpet theme.

I was wondering if the same people did the music, or if it was just
stock footage, because it was really neat.

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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: Radio Shack lives in the 24th century!
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:19:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.200050.16377@cs.cornell.edu> chapman@cs.cornell.edu (Richard Chapman) writes:
>edwardl@freddyk.uucp (Edward Langenback) writes:
>
>>rfd@po.CWRU.Edu (Richard F. Drushel) writes:
>
>>> 
>>> 	In the "Star Trek: The Next Generation Technical Manual",
>>> page 120, is *proof* that Radio Shack is still making electronics
>>> in the 24th century!  Look at the picture of the tricorder:  It says:
>>> 
>>> 	TRS80 TRICORDER VII
>>> 
>>> Your humble TRASH-80 computer has evolved into a tricorder :) :)
>>> 
>> 
>>  ye gods, Tricorders made by 'Rat-Shaft'?!?!  it's a wonder they work at 
>>all !
>
>Well that does it; I've read all the Radio Shack flames I can stand
>without replying. Radio Shack is a national resource, and one that you
>should do all you can to keep in business! If you haven't noticed,
>there aren't that many places left that you can go in this country and
>buy a resistor or capacitor or transistor, off the shelf, without
>special ordering, within 5 miles of home? 
>
>I'm not going to defend their consumer electronics, but where else is
>the average guy gonna go when he needs parts after 5:00PM? To the
>'Shack at the mall, or nowhere.  Sure, they don't stock _enough_
>parts, the salespeople are morons, etc, but anywhere in America
>outside the big cities, Radio Shack is the only place you can go for
>electronic parts without mail ordering (ever tried to mail order "that
>little connector, you know, between a blah and a blah" over the phone
>without the exact designation -- at the shack you can look on the wall
>for something that'll do the job).
>
>Richard Chapman, 
>(KC4IFB/KT, pdp-11 enthusiast, with no connection to Radio Shack other
>than as a (mostly) satisfied customer)

I think you miss the point of the post.  The poster was pointing out
the defects in Radio Shack's good old TRS-80 home computer from 1980,
you remember, the computer that would run the disk drive at all times?
(At least our school's did, no matter how many times we had it repaired,
or how many replacement computers we got.)
I took this as a nostalgic flame on that particular product, not the
company in general. Why didn't you?

Steve/Iain

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From: phadley@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Peter Hadley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: "Probe" and "Imzadi"
Date: 12 Oct 92 01:24:11 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University

I enjoyed _Imzadi_.  Read it.

As far as ST, and TNG, books in general--while I get around to owning
all of them eventually (damn these completist instincts), there is one
sure-fire method for telling when the book is gonna royally _suck_:
somewhere in the summary on the back cover, it will say "...meanwhile,
the Enterprise is called away to...".  Always a terrible sign.  I'm sure
someone will now point out an exception, but to the best of my
knowledge, it holds true.  Note to keep in mind, the absolute _worst_
ST book, _Shadow Lord_, featured this wonderful plot device.

						Thor Iverson
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: hermit@dastari.uucp (Mark Buda)
Subject: Re: Info please on stations carryind DSN
Reply-To: hermit%dastari.uucp@devon.lns.pa.us
Organization: Avalon Computing
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:36:29 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc

In article <1992Oct4.192427.3506@stsci.edu> wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:
>Here is a copy of the list the Vidiot posted last summer.
[...]
>		Harrisburg		WPMT

That's York, not Harrisburg.

>		Philadelphia		WTFX

That's WTXF, not WTFX.
--
Mark Buda

I get my monkeys for nothing and my chimps for free.
From: rusbasan@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Bob Rusbasan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Ensign Ro - info please
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:15:26 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <g92n3258.46.719238192@giraffe.ru.ac.za> g92n3258@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR RL NICOL) writes:
>Could someone please tell me how many episodes this character has been in, 
>which ones they were (if possible. - I know she was in "Conundrum" and "
>Power Play", but other than that, nothing.) and if there are any plans for 
>her to be in any more.  I've heard that the the person portraying the 
>character is no longer interested in continuing with this role.

People have posted that the actress playing Ensign Ro, Michelle Forbes,
was supposed to move to the upcoming Star Trek: Deep Space Nine 
show, but then she decided not to play the role anymore.  A different
actress will play another character of the same race (and with the same 
basic personality, etc.) on the new show.

*However*, I just read in the STTNG Companion that Michelle
Forbes told Paramount that she wanted to pursue a movie career, so
she would not be able to do DS9, but she *would* continue
making guest appearances on TNG as Ensign Ro.  Do I have old info,
or were the people who said she was completely out wrong?

This is the exact quote:  "Michelle Forbes, whose Ensign Ro character
had been slated for promotion and a transfer to DS9 as its first officer,
opted instead to shoot a motion picture.  Piller said she would continue
as a recurr8ing character aboard the Enterprise."

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From: llautsuo@lesti.hut.fi (Lotta Lautsuo)
Subject: 5th season TNG-gifs ??
Keywords: gifs  gif .gif
Reply-To: llautsuo@lesti.hut.fi (Lotta Lautsuo)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 09:44:49 GMT


      Could anybody pinpoint me to a public ftp-server which would
      have 5th (or even better 6th if any have been made yet) season
      TNG- gifs ?
      I am aware of some ftp locations (for example the procyon.cis.ksu.edu)
      but haven't seen any 5th season gifs there yet..

          Thanks in advance...
                                 Lotta




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From: A410JACQ@HASARA11.BITNET (Jacqueline Cote)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: German "Star Trek"
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:15:59 GMT
Organization: SARA - Stichting Academisch Rekencentrum Amsterdam

I don't know the exact wording of the TNG, since I stopped watching it quite
some time ago, but the wording of the TOS is quite different and starts with:
 
" Das Weltall.... Unentliche Weiten..... Dies sind die Abentuer des Raumschiffs
Enterprise auf ihre Suche (then some stuff I forgot. Sorry it has been over a
decade....) ........ und dringt in Galaxien vor, die nie ein Mensch zuvor
gesehen had"
 
Though Dutch, I do speak/understand German and watched the show in the 70's
when I was a kid. In fact, in learned German by watching Star Trek diligently,
as well as 'Raumschiff Orion', an excellent German SF series.
 
Jacqueline
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From: arxt@quads.uchicago.edu (Dave Palmer)
Subject: Re: In defence of Diane Carey
Reply-To: arxt@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:50:58 GMT



	I agree.  Dreadnought wasn't really all that bad, although it seemed to
be more fanzine-quality than professional novel-quality.  I didn't agree with
some of Carey's insights on Vulcan society, but the story itself wasn't bad.
It was certainly better than Black Fire for plausibility.  Many of Carey's
original characters were very similar to the already-established Star Trek 
characters, which is the biggest problem I had.  It's really not as bad as some
people make it out to be, although I can't exactly say it's anything special.
	And Final Frontier was really great! I don't think I need to say any
more about it.

	--The Midwesterner
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Episode Title Changes Dept. (was Episode Q-Me is no more!)
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:25:34 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Oct14.115734.11639@stsci.edu> wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:
<In article <4263@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
<
<>Trivia question....
<
<>Name the only other ST:TNG episode to have the title changed AFTER it was
<>published in an official promotion department schedule.  What was the first
<>title and what was the new title?
<
<
<Oooh... I know! I know!  "Send in the Clones" was the original title
<for "Up the Long Ladder" in the second season.

You got one of them.  The previous poster got BOTH of them.  Even I only
remembered one (this one) of them.
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Subject: Bored Science Station Extras
From: hef@vitro.com
Date: 6 Oct 92 11:55:58 -0500
Organization: Vitro Corporation
Nntp-Posting-User: eswgmh

    Have you guys ever noticed how uninterested the people working the
science stations are in the events happening on the bridge?  I know they
have to work with their backs to the viewscreen, but if I were there
and something out of the ordinary was happening, I think I'd turn around
to take a look!  (Last night, I was watching "Transfigurations" and the
entire time when they were talking with Sunad (the alien captain who was
fearful of John and wanted to kill him), the person back at the science
station was just nonchalantly going about his/her business.  I'm sure
this has happened in other episodes, as well...)

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