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From: IZZYKL6@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Hagop Janoyan)
Subject: Re:  Morrissey Serious?
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:01:13 PDT

In article <lapmntINNc57@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, on 8 Sep 1992 16:55:25 GMT,
milliken@scofield.Corp.Sun.COM (Gary Milliken) writes:

>I don't think any of the Smiths/Morrissey material should be taken
>seriously.  My first introduction to the Smiths was "Bigmouth Strikes
>Again", which made me laugh out loud -- the combination of obsequious
>apology and violent hostility that are superimposed on each other in
>the opening choruses is hilarious!  Morrissey may have serious ideas,
>but I think he knows perfectly well that the stuff works best as
>black comedy, and I believe that's what he aims for.
>
>   Sweetness,
>   Sweetness, I was only joking when I said
>   I'd like to mash every tooth in your head.
>
>   Sweetness,
>   Sweetness, I was only joking when I said
>   By rights you should be bludgeoned in your bed.
>

Some Morrissey songs, though, seem to lack any sense of humour.  Songs
like "November Spawned a Monster" "Everyday Is Like Sunday" and "The
Boy With The Thorn In His Side" seem to leave out the comedy completely
in favor of a serious tone.

Of course, sometime you've got to laugh at the whole Morrissey persona.
It's just funny sometimes that he would concentrate so much of his
talent on such morbid subjects.  In a way, most of his songs just repeat
one another, with the same general message in each song ("life is
terrible...but there just might be some hope") but with a bit different
slant.

-Hagop Janoyan
(You know, sometimes Morrissey takes his songs less seriously than his
fans do.)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: CBGBs
From: jjenkins@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:25:43 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

country-bluegrass & blues  OMFUG
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From: jeanette@hpmcaa (Jeanette Skelton)
Subject: Re: Nirvana split?
Organization: HP Cardiology Business Unit - McMinnville, OR
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:00:15 GMT

Carol Gibson (carol@ee.uts.edu.au) wrote:
> I heard on the radio today that Nirvana have split up... anyone know if
> this is true? (Or is it just another Kurt-Cobain-is-dead type rumour?)
> 

Well, then it's happened since they played in Portland last night.

I don't know what it's worth, but Kurt told a long story about Axl Rose
during the show about Axl. According to Kurt, he was sitting with his
wife and 3 week old baby at the MTV awards when Axl and his entourage
of bodyguards walked by. At this point Courtney yelled at Axl, asking
him to be the godfather of their baby. Axl responded "Shut up, bitch!"
then told Kurt that he'd better keep his wife's mouth shut. So Kurt
turned to his wife and said "shut up, bitch!"

This was sort of the highlight of the stage banter.

Jeanette
From: johnrich@athena.mit.edu (John A Richards)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: They Might Be Giants
Date: 11 Sep 92 01:15:59 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <dhalgren.716009257@milton> dhalgren@milton.u.washington.edu () writes:
>
>Without meaning to bring everybody down, I was very disappointed by the 
>show, which was technically skilled, professional, and boring. All the hits,
>one after another, just as they are on the albums...a big band (the two Johns
>plus bassist, saxophonist/keyboardist, and drummer)...John F. teasing the 
>audience by holding his guitar out to the pit (but not so they could TOUCH it,
>oh no indeed!)...an encore after the token 60 seconds offstage. All the Rock
>Star moves, and the show ended with the classic early 70s bloated instrumental.
>Could it be...John and John have become Rock Stars?
>
>If only I'd seen them when they still played with the same sense of fun they 
>still put into their songs.
>

Well, I saw them in Detroit around the beginning of their tour (June 26) and
they thoroughly impressed everybody there who saw them...including me.  I get
the feeling that as the tour went on, perhaps John and John et. al. started
to wear down. In Detroit, not only did they play for two hours (the first 
thirty minutes, through rain and hail--yes, hail), but also came out for three
(count 'em) encores, totalling about 15 or 20 extra minutes.  The Johns both 
appeared to be very enthusiastic and pumped (OK, John Linnell _never_ appears 
to be pumped with anything but valium, but he was clearly having a good time).
Both the Johns were clearly enjoying themselves and were having a fun time 
playing their music, and believe me, it sounded spectacular.

By the way, the Johns have not become "rock stars."  They still appreciate 
their fans.  Before the concert I talked to a group of people that had been 
waiting in line for seven hours before the concert started, and both the Johns
had come out and talked to them personally.  John Flansburgh even gave one guy
one of his guitar picks (it was yellow, with the "Flood" logo, but instead, 
it said "Flans").  John F. also hung around for half an hour after the concert
and signed autographs.


==============================================================================
John "Roach" Richards                                  johnrich@athena.mit.edu
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             "Life is just a mood ring we're not allowed to see."
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From: monte@spider.wri.com (Monte Seyer)
Subject: Mercy Seat/Gordon Gano info?
Summary: Any pointers to disks by Mercy Seat?
Keywords: Mercy Seat Gano Femmes
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:30:59 GMT

Has anyone out there seen disks or info on the band called
"Mercy Seat" headed by Gordon Gano of Violent Femmes fame?
I'm looking for recorded material or label info that might help
me track down a copy.

You can either post here or email to the person looking for this info:
Jim Proefrock
jimp@pubserv.com

Thanks,

Monte Seyer
monte@wri.com
From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Shakespear's Sister.. what's the deal???
Date: 5 Sep 92 02:19:27 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <92247.223825RTH2@psuvm.psu.edu> RTH2@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> Anyone know the scoop on this band/singer?  I've seen the video for "Stay"
> on Mtv and it's a nifty tune (wacky vid too).  Anyone have the album? Any good?
> Please post/e-mail... thanks.

Shakespear's Sister are primary Siobhan Fahey previously of Bananarama and
Marcella Detroit.  "Stay" is from the album "Hormonally Yours" and sat at #1 on
the UK charts for quite a few weeks.  Some of the other songs on the album
are (IHMO) better or at least display more energy.  They have a previous (ca 89)
album "Sacred Heart" much in the same vein.

Good?  I like it a lot, but it's largely a matter of whether the girls vocals
seem charming or cloying on a given day...
From: kwelch@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (No - No  Never)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: REM touring
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:32:44 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Sep10.141433.12451@cs.rose-hulman.edu> henslelf@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu writes:
>
>Does anyone know when REM will start touring for the new album?



They won't be.  Only a few side shows.  Shit.

kcw


--
Laocoon and her two sons                                 -=( Kevin C. Welch )=-
Pressured storm try to move                 -=( kwelch@eniac.seas.upenn.edu )=-
Love them more emotion bound
Martyr misconstrued							-R.E.M.
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Sonic Youth on Late Night 9/4/92
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 9 Sep 92 03:14:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.133752.21580@athena.cs.uga.edu> houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk) writes:
>In article <2AAC12FD.4041@ics.uci.edu> bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald) writes:
>>
>>  The performance was proof that Sonic Youth are regressing to childhood.
>>
>>  [stuff deleted]
>>
>>  But back to my point, Sonic Youth acted like little kids.  Thurston
>>  looked liked an overgrown 12-year old skater with that cute little
>>  Royal Trux T-shirt.  (HEY HEY HEY, Royal Trux get their first national
>>  TV promotion).   Lee was wearing an orange Icee-Bear shirt.  Kim dressed
>>  up like a spoiled Courtney Love, and Steve, well, ...he ALWAYS looked
>>  like a little kid.
>>
>
>Hey now - give 'em a break! They're having fun, that's what matters,
>right? Personally, I think goofin' off on national TV is a step up
>from their childish first lp... :)
>
>And deriding a group that proclamed the gospel of Royal Trux to millions
>of viewers...have you no shame? :)
>

  Oh, come on.  I was being frivolous in the first place.
  Note that I DID complain about not getting it on videotape, so
   obviously I thought it was worth something.

                                                                 K!z!K
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Subject: Re: The CHILLS
From: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 14 Sep 1992 06:13:44 GMT
Reply-To: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
 <1992Sep14.123332.809@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> <19164qINN6dr@peponi.wcc.govt.nz>,<1992Sep14.172717.10788@waikato.ac.nz>
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
NNTP-Posting-Host: blade.wcc.govt.nz

In article <1992Sep14.172717.10788@waikato.ac.nz>, dfong@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>Hmmm...also has anyone seen The Chills ltd. edition coloured vinyl of 
>'Soft Bomb' ?
>I've been on the lookout for it - but I guess it's probably sold out.
>The city I live in, Hamilton has pretty so-so record shops.

True the record shop's in Hamilton are pretty poor, so is the music scene,
the place is full of tacky nightclubs. If you like I'll check down here -
email me. 

>
>> However on a sadder note Mark from "Lung" - a Palmerston North band with
>> an industrial flavour had a bad reception in States where he went to book
>> for a gig and was asked if his band was a "Flying Nun" band, when he 
>> answered "No", was refused a booking. Bad Attitide, guys! They record
>> a smaller label Yellow Bike (Stomach Studios - home of Froit-head).
>

>I thought the LUNG were on the ODE label ?

I'll double-check.... and get back to you on that one.

>Has there musical style changed so much that they have to be on the same
>label as Froit-head ?

Froit-Head played support for them at TVC a while ago and yes they are
pretty much in the same vein. (Both also played at Under The Mountain
-New Plymouth).

>And "yes", what happened in the U.S. was very sad !
>I wonder what their perception is of NZ bands other than those on Flying Nun?
>>Maybe the only NZ music we'll ever sell overseas will be 'alternative' stuff,
>since commercial music is already pretty common over there.

Our commercial music i.e: Push Push is just as bad, who cares... These
guys were too high and mighty to converse with support band Deliverance
at Car Park.
                                       
>Any other NZers have anything to add? 
>                                      
>
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>Oh well, since I'm here :
>[here's a bit on commercial NZ music]
>
>Isn't it great that The Greg Johnson Set FINALLY have some success !
>ABOUT BLOODY TIME.
>'Isabelle' is a nice little ballad.
>'Two Feet Of The Ground' - the dance song should have done better.
>				(maybe cause it was only on cassingle).
>
>Anyway, I still love his first single 'Strange'.
>

Arrrgggh, blea...

>nuff said ?
>
>De Fish!

While we're at it, Waso Ghoti have reformed and have been playing gigs,
hopefully they'll do something soon.

--

Red
From: Judith_Beeman@mindlink.bc.ca (Judith Beeman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Vaselines/the Dentists
Date: 8 Sep 92 01:09:36 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Ho. I've been hearing lots about the VASELINES from the UK as a collection of
their stuff is now out on CD. I know the band consisted (as a duo or with
backup?) of a guy named Eugene and his girlfriend --oops only forget her name
as he's now in another band first called CAPTAIN AMERICA (is that not an
excellent name or what...nasty impending lawsuits forced 'em to change name),
now known as EUGENIUS. Is this collection of merit? I've heard a few tunes and
felt a 'beat happening' sorta feel. Anyhow, I'm sure to pick this up soon.
Also, anyone familiar with the DENTISTS? I see in the new Option mag theres a
collection fo their songs too. Thanks j.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: dlcogswe@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Dan Cogswell)
Subject: Re: Thomas Dolby's change of style
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:12:26 GMT

adamw@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Adam Douglas WEISSER) writes:

>Why was there such a huge change of style between "The Flat Earth" and "Aliens
>Ate My Buick". I know "Budapest By Blimp" was Flat Earthy but "Airhead" was
>definitely not! And where did he pick up the American accent?

>	I like both styles, but would like to here more "Hot sauce" type music.
>Is this likely? or was it just a lapse in style?

I think it's because he started working with George Clinton.  I spoke to
George recently and he said Dolby has a new album coming out and a new
baby. (George made a slight comment about him having to feed the kids,
etc.)



-- 
Dan Cogswell               Or as we say in Michigan:  "Dee-troit"


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From: gwaldron@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Glenn Waldron)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: REM lyrics
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:51:03 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

eg1@ra.msstate.edu (Ernie Gammon) writes:
> demian@sdf.lonestar.org (Ryan McDaniel) writes:
> 
> 
> >I was hoping that some REM enthusiast could supply me with the lyrics
> >to "shaking through" off of Murmur. It's a really great song, and I hope to
> >include it in my repertoire, if only anyone could tell what good old MIke 
> >was actually saying...
> 
> >Thanx in advance...
> 
> >demian@leland.stanford.edu
> 
> 
> 
> Well, from various sources that ive heard and read, on most of the early
> R.E.M. tracks, Stipe didnt even know what he was saying.  Nothing was ever
> written down...he just said whatever was on the top of his head, and most
> of it was mumbled and incoherent anyway.  So if youre trying to cover it,
> I say just mumble whatever is on the top of your head at that moment in the 
> show, and that's probably as close to the original as youre gonna get.  :)
> 
> Ernie

This is true.. I believe it was the Rolling Stone interview, in which
he said that he (stipe) didn't even know the lyrics to his own earlier
songs..
- Glenn

-- 

Glenn A Waldron                                  gwaldron@csugrad.cs.vt.edu
Computer Science - Virginia Tech                aq078@cleveland.freenet.edu
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From: hallan@cix.compulink.co.uk (Hugh Allan)
Subject: Re: REM CDs
Reply-To: hallan@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 22:13:34 +0000


Not about CDs... But... Avoid REM Succumbs, the Video, the sound
quality on the PAL version I have here is appalling. Great shame as
it's jam packed with excellent stuff.

 ______________________________________________  Hugh Allan, Hacker, Lover
|Jesus take me to a higher place               | ,Man about town, Man who
|Sliding in and out of grace...                | could have been president.
|  --- MudHoney                                | Peace in a world where
|______________________________________________| everyone gets Heaven - Curve

Now playing [Summertime - Janis Joplin]
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From: frank@sunburn.uwaterloo.ca (Frank Seglenieks x3821)
Subject: Re: Barenaked Ladies?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:42:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.183045.1925@bvc.edu> johnsonchris@bvc.edu writes:
>> 
>>         Anyone here heard of the Canadian group Barenaked Ladies?
>> 
>
The Barenaked Ladies are currently one of the most popular and most talented    bands in Canada, they describe their music as "Acoustic Hip-Hop".  The band     consists of 5 members: lead singer, acoustic guitar, stand up bass, keyboards   and drums.  They started off as steet performers (when there were only two      members in the band) and got their big break on a Toronto Television station    which has a video booth set up, you put in a dollar and then you are taped for  two minutes, the best segments 




are shown in a weekly half hour show.  Well      the Ladies made a few of theses videos (one even got on Canada's music station  MuchMusic) and they also played all around Southern Ontario gathering a loyal   following.  They had a five song demo cassette which they sold at their shows,  this cassette found its way to the record stores and has sold over 80 000       copies (a Canadian record for a solely cassette release).  Last month they      released their debut album called "Gordon" which I beleive has




 gone over the    100 000 mark in Canada.

They sing innocent songs, many about growing up (similar to Jonathan Richman)   while you can also see the influence of growing up watching a lot of TV in      their songs.  The song "Grade Nine" is a song about the first day of high       school and is really funny, one line is "My Dad says I have to be home by       eleven, Aw Dad I'm gonna miss 'Stairway to Heaven'", there is also reference    made to everybody having a blue and red Addidas bag which is something I        remember from my high school da




ys.  Overall the album is really good even if it does sound a little like the Housemartins, which they are aware of as in the    song 'Hello City' which sounds particularly Housemartin-like they end off       with a few lines 'Happy Hour', I though this was nice touch.      

But, even better is their live show, if they ever play in your town go and      see them.  The shows are always interesting as they are really funny and        really good muscians as well.

frank@sunburn.waterloo.ca  (I would have liked to edit this to make it more     readable, but I really hate this VI editor)
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Sonic Youth on Late Night 9/4/92
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 8 Sep 92 02:42:05 GMT

In article <c188-am.715887527@po.berkeley.edu> c188-am@po.berkeley.edu (Leor Jacobi) writes:
>jsulliva@amstel.prime.com (Jeff Sullivan) writes:
>
>
>> I think I heard Dave (David Letterman) mention on last night's show
>> that Sonic Youth would be on the show tonight. Call the neighbors!
>> Wake the kids! They won't want to miss this program.
>
>
>>Jeff Sullivan | Computervision Corp. | jsulliva@cvbnet.Prime.COM
>>CADDS R&D     | Bedford, MA    01730 | sun!cvbnet!jsulliva
>
>Is this true?  Did I miss this?  How come I only read it today?
>Did anyone see it?  Does anyone have any info?


   Yup. Saw it.  Too bad I caught it by accident at a friend's house and
  not at my apartment with a VCR.

  The performance was proof that Sonic Youth are regressing to childhood.
  The band themselves were constricted to an 8-foot square floor with the
  rest of the World's Most Dangerous Band playing in their own
  territory.  I saw NO POINT in having the house band even PERFORM as
  I only heard Sonic Youth's instruments, besides some CHEEZO sound
  effect by Paul Schaffer every now and then.  But I guess it was
  better than having the house band drown out everything.

  But back to my point, Sonic Youth acted like little kids.  Thurston
  looked liked an overgrown 12-year old skater with that cute little
  Royal Trux T-shirt.  (HEY HEY HEY, Royal Trux get their first national
  TV promotion).   Lee was wearing an orange Icee-Bear shirt.  Kim dressed
  up like a spoiled Courtney Love, and Steve, well, ...he ALWAYS looked
  like a little kid.

  They did "100%" (as expected) and purposedly sounded shitty. Lee and
  Thurston started wrestling with each other during the mantage of kiddy
  feedback at the end of the song.  Dave came out after that and shook
  their hands and asked if they were alright.  Thurston shook his hand
  and then started hopping around like a 3 year old.  Lee all of a sudden
  put on an irresistible grin and acted mature.  Kim and Steve just stood
  by.      Ah, kids.

   That and all those stuffed animals on the cover (thanks to Mike Kelley).
  Makes me wonder.                                      K!z!K
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Holy Rollers
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:56:53 GMT

In article <18ovusINNn3h@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> msl9@po.CWRU.Edu (Marla S. Lender) writes:
>
>Is there anyone out there that likes the Holy Rollers?  I have
>seen them twice and have "As Is", "Fabuley", and a 7-inch called
>"Origami Sessions" which has previous recordings of songs from
>"As Is".  The music is intense and hypnotizing.  I am surprised
>that relatively few people have heard of them and even fewer
>truly appreciate what they have done.  I am looking for any
>other material that they have released, and any comments or
>info about the band.  Any other Holy Rollers enthusiasts-
>please send e-mail.

   Well, the _Fabuley_ CD is quite good. Not EXCELLENT but good.  Anyone
  with a taste for Fugazi and has a spare $11 or $12 bucks in their pockets
  should pick it up.  It has the _As_Is_ album as a bonus.

  The BEST track though is "Into the Here" off a split 7" with Cringer.
  I forget the label at the time, but quite a cool track.

                                                                 K!z!K
From: gregs@polari.online.com
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: They Might Be Giants
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:13:21 GMT
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix.  (206) 328-4944 (all lines telebit-equipped)

leeSJ@elec.uq.oz.au (Simon Lee) writes:


>Does anyone know if TMBG are coming to Australia
>on their World Tour?
>Any information would be appreciated.

>Regards,
>Simon.

On that note, anybody know when they're coming BACK to Seattle?  I went
to see them at the annual Bumbershoot festival last night.  They were booked
in the Opera House, which is very very small.  I got there an hour early and
they had already barred the doors because the place was so full.  Somebody
started kicking in windows and the police started to file in, so I left.
Any tour information would be much appreciated.
-- 
Gregory Sumner                        ::
gregs@polari.online.com               ::               Go Dawgs! 
Seattle, Wa                           :: 1-0