From: jpr1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (James P. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
Subject: Unfair trade practices. (WAS: space program necessary)
Date: 23 Dec 92 05:24:03 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>From article <1992Dec22.021415.8073@cs.rochester.edu>, by dietz@cs.rochester.ed
u (Paul Dietz):
>> In article <1992Dec22.005651.3627@news.stolaf.edu> kamilewi@lars.acc-admin.st
olaf.edu (Alex Kamilewicz) writes:
>>
>> A country that spends less on space is Japan.  Boy, that lack
>> of spinoffs has really crippled *their* technology.  And the
>> country that launches the most rockets, Russia, sure has the
>> world's most advanced technology, doesn't it?
>>
>This is a bad analogy.  I dont believe there is all too much that the
>Japanese have actually invented, that added to their technology.
>Sure, they make the best technical products in the world probally, but
>they didnt really invent much of it, they are just better workers,
                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I disagree with this.  I don't think they are really better workers, I just
think they get ahead in world markets through dirty trade practices.


>                                                                   and
>what the rest of the world invents, they perfect.  Im sure someone will
>disagree, but I feel the Japanese actually lack in the technology
>department when it comes to actually creating brand new ideas.  How many
>things have the Japanese actually invented?  As far as Russia goes,
>geez, who knows what they have been doing for the past 20 years?  :)
>
>- Stalker
>

I agree that the Japanese don't really bring totally new ideas to market as
much as we do.  And I think most of what they've done is just stolen American
technologies, such as VCRs, televisions, flat panel displays, semiconductor
products, etc.

They let our small, high-risk, start-up entrepenurial companies take all the
risks.  Then when they see something we have that works well and is a good
idea, they come out with a version of their own, run our companies out of
business with patent suits and product dumping, and make billions of dollars
in profits on our backs.

Remember the message that was posted to the entire net about the popular paper
on Japanese business strategy?  It is available from FTP site
"monu6.cc.monsh.edu", directory "pub/nihongo".  Also available are the PBS
"Frontline" programs "Losing the War with Japan" and the Matsushita program.
Try getting "losewar.pbs", "matsushita.pbs", and "japanyes".  These are both
enlightening and infuriating to anyone concerned about the state of US
industry.  I recommend them highly.

It is truly disappointing, how many Americans accept the dogma that US workers
are somehow less productive (They aren't) or more lazy (Bullshit) than
Japanese workers.  I just wish Americans would give themselves the credit they
deserve, and not let the Japanese cartels push them around.

Companies like Matsushita, Honda, Sony, etc. are bullying us, and they even
have us convinced that it's somehow our fault that they have taken our
innovations away from us.  Let's stand up and claim our just rewards ... we
invented a lot of the products that have made them rich.  The corrupt cartels
in Japan are stealing our inventions as fast as we can develop them.  And
regardless of what they might have us believe, we are no less hardworking and
certainly more innovative than they are.

We need to get tough with Japan.  Make them open their markets, or start making
it harder from them to sell to us.  When you meet up with a bully that just
won't take no for an answer, the only solution is to stand up to him.

And that's just what these cartels are ... trade bullies.


Jim Reynolds   ---   "I am no doormat to Matsushita, or Honda, or Toyota,
                      or Sony, or any other Japanese company."



James P. Reynolds       (that's Jim to you and me.)     jpr1@lehigh.edu
     Lehigh University Materials Science Rules          jreynolds@igc.org
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James P. Reynolds       (that's Jim to you and me.)     jpr1@lehigh.edu
     Lehigh University Materials Science Rules          jreynolds@igc.org
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