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From: smithw@hamblin.math.byu.edu (Dr. William V. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Randall Cunningham Sucks
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Date: 11 Jan 93 22:13:16
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In-reply-to: your-email-addr@a1.mscf.upenn.edu's message of 11 Jan 93 20:26:22 GMT

Afraid I have to agree.  I always thought he was overrated and he's
pretty much proved it this year.  It will be interesting to see if
the TV guys will ever dare to stop making excuses for him.  I never
thought I'd say it, but I actually wish for the Polish Rocket.
-Bill
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From: krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes)
Subject: Dallas on Real Grass
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:06:05 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
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Can some one post the Cowboys record for this season. I'd like to get an
idea of how they play on real grass. I think the field conditions are really
going to favor SF this week, mainly because thay played there last week.
It will be a great game and I wish both teams and their fans good luck

Buffalo 31 Miami 23

SF 41 Dallas 35

Buffalo 42 SF 37

See the Bills win!
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From: pws2n@vision1.ee.Virginia.EDU (Philip Weaver Smith)
Subject: Re: Eagles Victory...
Reply-To: pws2n@vision1.ee.Virginia.EDU (Philip Weaver Smith)
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:48:17 GMT

In article <1i9qa1INNk95@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>,
skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
|> In article <103612@netnews.upenn.edu> sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu
(Rajeev  Sajja) writes:
|>  >
|>  >BRING 'EM ON......
|>  >All you dallas fans must be sweating han!!!
|> 
|> Think again homey, Emmitt gonna romp and Emmitt gonna stomp.....
|> I guess that thrashing we gave you on Nov 1 slipped your mind, 
|> Emmitt 163 yards, Play like yesterday and it's gonna be a long 
|> long day...Hell in the first game we turned the ball over four times
|> and were still in the game late.
|> 
|> DALLAS COWBOYS
|> NFC EAST CHAMPIONS
(Because you didn't play a single tough team outside the division!)
(losing to the Rams. . . Come on! )
|> RESTED AND READY !!!!
|> tim
|> 

Now, for those with short memories . . 

Philly at Dallas 10 - 20.
Dallas at Philly 7 - 31.

Now which is a thrashing?

The Eagles are back and if they stay in the zone could go
all the way . . . . 

GO EAGLES!!!!


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From: jscott@micom.com (James Scott)
Subject: Re: steve walsh deal
Organization: yo-yo dyne propulsion 
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:02:57 GMT

From: CCP17BK@AUDUCADM.DUC.AUBURN.EDU (Bill Kelly)

> As far as I'm concerned, that trade was one of the dumbest things
> Jim Finks has done while with the Saints.  Don't get me wrong -
> overall, I think Finks and Mora have worked miracles for us.  But
> Walsh was (like Torretta is) another over-rated Miami quarterback,
> Johnson knew it, and he took us to the cleaners.

hey bill ... do you remember what the specifics of the trade were? i
seem to recall there being 2 draft picks involved ... but i'm pretty
uncertain.  

also, if JJ knew walsh was "another over-rated Miami quarterback," i
wonder why he blew a first round pick on him (granted that JJ didn't
think it would be THE #1 pick).

any dallas fans out there who could name who the cowboys got with the
pick(s) from NO?

thanks,

james
From: dickh@tribe.esd.sgi.com (Dick Harkness)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Two "West Coast" Teams in the Conference Title Game ...
Date: 12 Jan 93 00:28:09 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

I
 
|> > I think it was a couple of seasons ago when the Broncos and 49ers both hosted
|> > the conference title games ... they had the Denver game start at 11:30 local
|> > time, which equated to 13:30 here on the East Coast.  The 49ers then played
|> > at 14:00 local, which was 17:00 out here.
|> 
|> you rule out the more obvious one one Saturday, one on Sunday. I don't
|> know if they'd do that, considering one team would get an extra day's
|> rest, but who knows?

If San Diego had won, their game against the Bills would have started at  pm on the East Coast, with the Niners-Cowboys game being on at Prime Time  8 pm stating time, East Coast.

Dick Harkness
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From: hammond@grizzly.scd.ucar.edu (Steve Hammond)
Subject: On-sides kicks and Oiler's special teams.
Organization: NCAR/UCAR
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:01:28 GMT


Why were the Oiler's special teams the ONLY people not expecting
Buffalo to try an on-sides kick in the third quarter after Buffalo
scored their first touchdown.  Even the announcers were questioning
it.  How stupid.

In general, the Oilers special teams did not perform.  OK, I know
their usual punt and kick returners were injured so I'll dismiss
that.  It was a complete breakdown by the kicking game.  Even
the first kickoff by the Oilers went out of bounds and the
Bills started at their 35.  I know that there was a strong and
changable wind but why kick the ball so low that it is stopped
by the up-men of the Bills and then giving them good field
position?  I would really like to know what the special-teams
coach was thinking.  That single element kept the Bills momentum
going in the second half.

  Steve H.
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Coughlin refuses NY Giants Coaching Position
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:42:36 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <Adriene_Nazaretian.90.0@QM.cis.YALE.EDU> Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.cis.YALE.EDU (ALN - Go Giants!) writes:
>Hello, everyone!  Goooood Morning!
>
>This morning ESPN showed footage of Coughlin saying that the Giants offered 
>him the job, they asked 2 questions:
>
>2. Are you ready to leave BC?
>
>"I thought about it all night, and After I put my Ego aside, the answer was 
>no, its right for me and my family, we want to stay in Boston"

BC also offered him one hell of a financial package.  I could see where he
was coming from: he's done a decent job at BC so why risk a good thing to
take your chances in the pros going against the NY  media?

>
>NEXT CANDIDATE:  Dave Wanstedt (sp?) (OOOOOOOH PULEEEEEZE GOD)  Quick, 
>someone help me think of a sacrifice we can offer to the Football Gods!

Now THAT would make my day.  The GIANTS list for head coach candidates
is pretty darn short and I don't think it includes any with the name "Bill"
in it.

How about sacrificing Handley (doesn't he remind you of the Costanza guy from Seinfeld?)

>
>ESPN says he is WAY interested!  

ESPN also said yesterday that Coughlin had accepted the job.  The fellow
who mis-announced this apologized this morning... sort of.

>Keeping my fingers crossed in little 
>knots, please, please, please.......  I dont think I can take the suspense 
>too much longer.

Better take someone quick before the move Rod Rust up as head coach :-(

>
>Adriene (ULTRA PSYCHED G's FAN)  

satish nair
giants (this decade ... maybe)
From: vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Vernon H Harmon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Ditka's gone!
Date: 5 Jan 93 14:26:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.MfGWQjy00WDK00tZo8
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Announced today: Ditka has been fired!

what does this bode for Bears fans?

good luck guys!

--Vernon.
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From: dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (4E150M)
Subject: Re: Dallas Blindness (was Re: Dallas *rookies*, a synops*ice*)
Reply-To: dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:12:49 GMT

In article <3254@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writes:
>In article <1icr84INNl4q@news.aero.org> mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw) writes:
>>In article <C0E61E.1rC@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> thaddeus@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thaddeus R. Crews) writes:
>>>Is the *ice*man really saying that
>>>every single Dallas rookie player was BETTER than average (e.g. "C")
>>>than the rest of the NFL's rookie class?
>
>Considering that several of them are starters on the team with the second
>best record in football, I'd say that was a pretty fair statement.
>
>>p.s., if you want a list of grade 'C' or lower players for Dallas:
>>
>>Ike Holt
>
>Oh, yeah!  Ike has really gotten on my nerves.  And apparently on Johnson's
>nerves, too; his playing time keeps shrinking and shrinking.  I'd be willing
>to bet that he is gone next year.
>
>>Vinson Smith
>>Godfrey Myles
>>Dixon Edwards
>
>Agreed here, too, pointing out the Cowboys' glaring weakness: linebackers.
>We need to get Reggie White, or *somebody* off the free agency list, and
>move Haley back to linebacker, where I think he would be even more effective.

Actually, early in his 49er career Haley was a LB.  He wasn't very good -
not fast enough, couldn't cover well against the pass, not that good
at run support.  The 49ers created the position of ELEPHANT, where
Haley almost always played like a down lineman - and that is where
he excelled in SF.  The Cowboys would want to think twice before
changing Haley back to a LB.

>
>Daniel Welch


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From: Frank Bilotti <frank@wanda.princeton.edu>
Subject: Re: Cortez Kennedy
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X-Xxdate: Mon, 11 Jan 93 20:38:15 GMT
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:36:15 GMT

In article <1it24vINNphn@sumax.seattleu.edu> Dave Jorgan,
jorgand@sumax.seattleu.edu writes:
>	BTW, this also shows just how awesome a season Cortez Kennedy had.
>He got 14 sacks and numerous tackles for loss, all while playing the run
>tremendously well and controlling two gaps. Many of the other top-ranked
>tackles get to play in one-gap defenses where they need only control one
gap
>and have much less responsibility. A two-gap defense is really meant for
the
>linebackers to make the plays- a one-gap highlights the linemen. The
Eagles
>play a one-gap scheme. Michael Dean Perry had many All-Pro seasons
playing in
>Bud Carson's one-gap scheme, but when Belichick put in the two gap
scheme you
>didn't hear about him too much, because this scheme overshadows the
linemen
>(especially the tackles.)

Extremely good point.  It might also be noted that Kennedy was a
one-gapper in college and he was just as dominant.  I think Cortez might
turn out to be one of the greats at his position (this is obviously
speculation).

FRANK
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Subject: Hold your head high, Washington
From: mzener@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 9 Jan 93 20:26:57 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

   This won't be a game summary;  I'm sure there will be enough of those
around.  Instead, this is a message to Redskins fans (and players) everywhere:

   You have nothing to be ashamed of.  There may be a lot of people right now
talking about how the Redskins are a bad team, how they didn't deserve to be in
the playoffs, and many other such criticisms.  But the Washington Redskins
deserve praise.

   Yes, they've made mistakes that have cost them games.  But everyone does
that.  And no, they aren't totally undeserving of blame.  Along with that
blame, though, look at what they've done.

   With the toughest schedule in the NFL, a season where more than 23 players
have been put on IR, a season where every team gets psyched up to beat them, a
season with holdouts, bad luck, and sporadic offense, they never gave up.
   Any other team would have taken off its helmets and said "we'll get 'em next
year."  But not the Redskins.  They put their hearts and their souls into every 
game.  All season long they fended off knockout blows, and they made it into
the playoffs after a grueling December.
   Doubters said they didn't belong in the playoffs, and the Redskins responded
by blowing the doors off the Metrodome, absolutely dominating the Vikings as
they held the ball for 70% of the game.

   It took the league's best team a tough home game to finally end the
Redskins' season.  For all the talk that can be done about bad plays, field
conditions, and so forth for both teams, the truth is this:  is was a great
ball game.  The 'SKins gave it their all, and nearly made it.

   You can ask for nothing else in life.


Max
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From: macole@wam.umd.edu (The Dude)
Subject: Re: Free Agency
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:34:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.211510.18852@cbis.ece.drexel.edu> andres@minerva.ece.drexel.edu (Andres Lebaudy) writes:
>In article <1iuu40INNoov@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Skywalker) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan12.170359.21739@kronos.arc.nasa.gov> blah@maas-neotek.arc.nasa.gov (MJW/TWF) writes:
>>>[stuff deleted]
>>
>> >Note also that I'm a Dallas fan, although I'm kind of glad that we
>> >cannot sign White (I think his presence would screw things up - the
>> >same way Jackson's did in Miami).
>>
>>True but remember Steve Beuerline will be leaving and most likely 
>>will sign in the 2Mil range which means dallas CAN sign a player
>>for that ammount of cash......I agree I don't want Reggie or
>>any other Eagles for that matter.....nothing but trouble....
>>
>>
>>tim
>
>I'm a big Cowboy fan spending my college days in Philadelphia.
>While most Eagle players can certainly be considered 'nothing
>but trouble', Reggie White is a class act and would give the
>Cowboys a few very solid years.  I don't know if getting White
>is a good idea, I'm just saying that you can't question this
>guy's character.  Also, I think he was a big Cowboy fan when
>he was growing up in Tenessee.  He definitely wouldn't have 
>any trouble fitting in to the Cowboy system.
>
>Andres

Wow!  This is almost exactly what I said...Hmm...I gotta finish reading all 
these things before I start responding.  Well, I'm glad that someone else
can see good in other regardless of their team colors.

"OHHH NOOOO!!!!  HE'S CHANGING!!!!!!!"

"Will there be enough mud to cover Haley's face?" (I hope so)

"Is Jimmy Johnson's barber travelling to S.F.?"

"Or will George Seifert let his barber do J.J.'s hair?"

"How many ex-Cowboys appeared in the movie 'Necessary Roughness'?"

"How many ex and current Niners appeared in the movie?"

"Yo! Candlestick!  Who does your lawn????"

"Can Debbie do S.F. after Dallas?  Or are you waiting for John?"

"Is Steve Bono related to Sonny?  He seems young enough to be his son or Cher's
husband."


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From: dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (4E150M)
Subject: 49ers/Cowboys
Reply-To: dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 21:31:00 GMT

Congratulations to the Cowboys, who stomped the Eagles into the
ground with a convincing 34-10 victory.

Questions for Cowboys/Eagles fans:  were the Cowboys that
dominating or were the Eagles big choke artists?  Was Cunningham
really as bad as he appeared-or was it a team giveup?

In any case, most NFL fans get the game that they want:  The teams
with the best records in the NFL.  The young, talented,
multi-dimensional Cowboys - in their first NFC championship game
since 1983 against the veteran, talented 49ers - in their fourth
NFC championship game in the last five years.
From: ddrumm@amiganet.chi.il.us (Daniel Drumm)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Predict this!
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:35:23 CST
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

Prediction Time and I'm jumping in with both feet:
 
NFC Championship Game: San Francisco v. Dallas
 
        Emmitt has proved himself to be equally amazing on turf or grass. 
The Niners will expend a good deal of their energy trying to shut
the Cowboys ground game down. This should allow the Cowboys to move
the ball through the air with Irvin and Martin. If the Niners have a
weakness, it is that you can attack the secondary. However, while this
would suggest that the Cowboys offense should be able to score and move
the ball, I don't think they will be dominant enough at Candlestick to
control the clock. Given that the Cowboys will have to take large chunks
of yardage through the air, I expect Aikman to choke in the clutch. I
feel he's a year away from taking them there.
        On the Niners side, Young is the best playing right now. Experience,
mobility, the recievers, the whole thing. The rotation of Watters, Lee 
and Rathman should provide enough oomph on the ground to open up a
hole in the Cowboys secondary for Rice to make a big play or two. The
Cowboys have the better recievers given the fact they have Novacek at
Tight End, but in the end, Young's OL and his mobility will neutralize
Haley (who will be an animal for this one no doubt) and the gang. The
Cowboys could use Marvin Jones from Florida State next year. Of course,
Marvin will probably be playing next to Coryett in Indy, but I digress.
 
 
AFC Championship Game: Steelers v. Chargers
 
        It's called Home Field advantage, look into it. Miami won't. I have
no idea who will take this one, although if I had to bet, I'd go with
Steelers if the return of the anti-Bubby looks good over the Bills. 
I'll be routing for the Chargers, though.
 
Super Bowl: Niners v. Steelers
 
        Forget about it. The Steelers lost to the Bears, enough said. I
won't even bother watching. Bowls I would watch include:
 
Anybody v. the Fish
Cowboys v. Steelers
 
ddrumm@amiganet.chi.il.us
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From: Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.cis.YALE.EDU (ALN - Go Giants!)
Subject: Re: Coughlin refuses NY Giants Coaching Position
Organization: Yale University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:47:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.153041.28122@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:
>From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
>Subject: Re: Coughlin refuses NY Giants Coaching Position
>Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:30:41 GMT
>In article <Adriene_Nazaretian.90.0@QM.cis.YALE.EDU> Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.cis.YALE.EDU (ALN - Go Giants!) writes:

>>
>>NEXT CANDIDATE:  Dave Wanstedt (sp?) (OOOOOOOH PULEEEEEZE GOD)  Quick, 
>>someone help me think of a sacrifice we can offer to the Football Gods!
>>
>Offer youself to JPG, the Football Gods conduit, the ultimate SACRIFICE 
>for a young maiden. :-) Okay, I sorry. I couldn't resist this one
>Ms. UTRA PSYCHED G's FAN! :-)
>>

NO FAIR!  You're a 9er FAN, YIKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKES, your just a conduit to the 
Football DEMONS, you BEAST!

Football GODS, FORGIVE him, he knows not what he says, hear my prayers!

Damn, where is my net.football.savior when I NEED him?

(JPG - I know you love it when I flame you in front of thousands of people, 
you exibitionist) 

>>ESPN says he is WAY interested!  Keeping my fingers crossed in 
little >>knots, please, please, please.......  I dont think I can take the 
suspense >>too much longer.
>>
>I know of a way to loosen your tension and make you relax your little
>knots and release your suspense. Answer: go bungee jumping! Guaranteed
>to make you forget about such mundane things as selecting football
>coaches. ARRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

No thanks, but can I fly to CA and PUSH you off a cliff without the 
bungee cord??? ;-)  Just kidding. :-)   :-)

Then again, I might just bungee off Giants Stadium to please the FBGods!  
Now theres a sacrifice!

A
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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: Draft stuff
Organization: University of Michigan
	<1992Dec31.061550.58758@uvmark.uucp>
	<1993Jan4.155941.17463@pdn.paradyne.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:12:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.155941.17463@pdn.paradyne.com> lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James) writes:
   In article <1992Dec31.061550.58758@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
   >
   >Curry will go well before Copeland...

   After the total domination of the 'Canes in the Sugar Bowl (but
   admittedly, before the combine workouts) does the net feel that
   there is a chance that either  Eric Curry or John Copeland will
   be available at the 6th overall pick  (Tampa Bay's)?   I assume 
   that Marvin Jones will be long gone by then.

I'd say there is very little chance that they will both be gone, and a much
better chance that they will both be there.  You need 5 guys:
	Bledsoe	- yep
	Marvin	- yep
	Kennedy	- good chance
	Hearst	- good chance
	Irv Smith - small chance
	Bettis	- small chance
	Mirer	- no chance (sorry, there just seemed to be a theme)
	Shields	- medium chance

And there have to be a few others who could quite reasonably go ahead of
curry and copeland, though not many.

Bill
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From: holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Holly Wise)
Subject: Re: Playoff Football Pool
Organization: Lockheed Santa Cruz, CA.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 20:00:25 GMT

In article <C0B5rv.1sB@abode.ttank.com> eric@abode.ttank.com (Eric C. Bennett) writes:


>Anyway... go COWBOYS. Go REDSKINS (I can't believe I would even say that!).


Eric,

Sure hope your prediction about the Redskins beating the 9ers goes like your 
other predictions.  GO 9ers, GO Eagles!
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From: bih@mowgli.East.Sun.COM (Bennet Ih - Sun BOS Hardware)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Mora == Buddy Ryan?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 16:08:53 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. - BDC
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Does anyone else get the feeling that Saints under coach Mora seem to be
following the same path as the Eagles under former coach Buddy Ryan? Both
turned mediocre teams into contenders with dominating defenses but
neither could seem to win when it counted (i.e. the playoffs). What are the
chances that a coaching change could be in the works in New Orleans despite
all of Mora's regular season success? Gotta feel for the Saints and their fans
after that second half debacle. When the Eagles started to surge
they were totally helpless to stem the tide and just seemed to fold.
Is there a lot of can Mora talk down in New Orleans?

-Bennet

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