From: crj10@phx.cam.ac.uk (Clive Jones)
Subject: Re: "closed" station rule query.
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Keywords: closed, station, rule, Down Street.
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:06:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.125824.31682@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk>, zchag12@ucl.ac.uk (Mr Barry David Salkin) writes:
> 
> (I'm sure I've seen an answer to this in the FAQ, but my copy of this got 
> wiped, so if you've got a copy of the Bellman FAQ, with the 1988 Congress
> amendments, please mail me a copy).

Sorry - I forgot to save it. It wasn't exactly complete, anyway - evidently
Bellman has a different understanding of the word "Frequent".
 
> What is the position of the L.U. (London Underground) stations which are
> now closed?.

Entirely optional - the Edinburgh Tardis Convention is not normally played in
tournaments, but is normally used in social games, especially those that take
place "under the influence"...

(Incidentally, do NOT use the Rendall/Poon Tardis Convention - George Hann
 found a critical problem with it in 1989, in that Blake Hall is a *far* too
 powerful move since the opening of the DLR.)

>   I was asked for my opinion of the legality of the move Goodge St. (Northern)
>  to Down Street (Picadilly) , claiming Leicester Square (Northern/Picadilly) as
>  the interchange. The previous move had been Goodge St. to Archway, successfully
>  challenged as ineligible (following Reed, 1973).

I would have disallowed this, since Tardis normally requires the last name
before closure to be used, and "Down Street (Mayfair)" was the last declared
name (until 1932). Unfortunately, that is then invalid under rule 14. Otherwise,
quite a nifty move, IMHO.

> Down Street (between Green Park and Hyde Park Corner) is one of a number of
> stations now closed, [...]

"Tardis" stations are, (IMCC 1992 Summer compiled list):
  Hounslow Town, South Acton, White City (H&C line), Uxbridge Road, Lords,
  Marlborough Road, Down Street (Mayfair), Brompton Road, King William Street,
  British Museum, York Road, City Road, St. Mary's (Whitechapel Road),
  Blake Hall, Northfields & Little Ealing, Osterley & Spring Grove,
  Hammersmith (Grove Road), Wood Lane, South Kentish Town, Park Royal and
  Twyfford Abbey.

Note that this excludes:
- Stations amalgamated into the British Rail network
- Stations never opened to the public (e.g. Bull and Bush/North End  and the
  entire Royal Mail underground line).
- Stations entirely re-excavated under the same name.

> Following on from this : Is there any difference for a station that was never
> opened to the public .... such as Bull & Bush (Northern).
> (This was never opened as a station, and is rumoured to be a control point
> for L.U., which was available in case of flooding of the tunnels, before the
> Thames flood barrier was built. I learned of its existence from "War Plan U.K.",
> by the investigative journalist Duncan Campbell, who describes some of the 
> tunnels under London.)

Yes, never-opened stations are ruled upon differently, in that they were never
a valid move without Tardis.

The station was not ever formerly named. It was going to be called either
Bull and Bush OR North End. It was excavated at platform level, but no works
were ever made above ground as London Underground could not purchase the land!

I suspect it is, indeed, now used for dubious military purpouses, in the same
way as the Goodge Street tunnels were in WWII.

Hope this helps - see IMCC1972/3/11c and Tardis1,2,3,5 and 6 documents for more
formal explanations of these rules - the above is just my interpretation.

--Clive.
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