From: langrock@rice.edu (David Jeffrey Langrock)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: The most underrated quarterback in my lifetime
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:48:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: rice.Bw4K9F.E6w
Reply-To: langrock@rice.edu (David Jeffrey Langrock)
Organization: Rice University
Originator: langrock@tone.cs.rice.edu


In article <7266@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM>, stephenl@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Stephen Lamar Legate) writes:
|> In article <1bcf49INNflp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> djh10@po.CWRU.Edu 
|> (David J. Henning) foams:
|> >This week he eclipsed the 200 career touchdown mark faster than anyone
|> >except Marino and Unitas.  
|> 
|> Gee, could Steve Largent have had ANYTHING to do with this?

Anything, yes.  Everything, NO!

Notice that Steve Largent's phenomenal '79 and '80 seasons didn't do much to 
perk up Jim Zorn's stats/historical importance.  One blessed receiver can only do
so much to help the stats of one quarterback.  I suppose Dan Fouts wasn't that good since he had Joiner and Winslow, etc.  In 1984 Krieg had 36 TD passes
(which would have been a record had it not been for Marino having more that year)
and Largent accounted for less than one third of those, and ranked #2 on the team
in TD receptions.

|> >This as well as his other far-better-than-Elway statistics...
|> 
|> Oh, really.  Don't forget the one about most fumbles.  In NFL HISTORY.
|> Yup, that sure is better than Elway :^P.

Here the original author departs from the thread of the title of his post: that
is that Krieg is UNDERRATED.  There can be little doubt that Elway is a superior
quarterback.  Everyone involved with the Chiefs from the owners down to the fans
would trade Krieg for Elway in a flash, even though Krieg's style is much more in
tune with the rest of the team.  

Case in point: Broncos 20, Chiefs 19.  Krieg was methodical and consistent and
helped place the Chiefs (pound for pound the superior team) in position to win
the game.  Elway was his typical self, erratic, scrambling, but he did what it
took to win the game (given the opportunity).

|> <Snort!> Please.  Krieg is NOT a Super Bowl quarterback.  Two reasons.
|> 
|> 1) He is the streakiest son of a bitch I have ever seen in my life.  When he's
|>    hot, he's magma.  I mean, a hot Dave Krieg blows Joe Montana out of the 
|>    water in a most unpleasant way.  But when he's cold he SUCKS ROCKS.  I mean,
|>    a cold Dave Krieg makes Brad Goebel look like Terry Bradshaw.
|> 

I fundamentally disagree that Krieg is any less consistent than the average NFL
QB, though I have seen days where he looks like Moon, and days he looks like 
Gelbaugh.

|> 2) When the shit hits the fan, Krieg usually goes cold.  He is not a "come from
|>    behind" quarterback.  With all the explosive offenses of NFC contenders   
|>    (Dallas, Philadelphia, San Fran, etc.) he would most likely have to come
|>    from behind in the Superbowl.

No, he is not a come from behind quarterback.  And, so far this season, the Chiefs have not been more than a touchdown behind in a game.  This is why he would make a terrible choice for QB for a team like Denver that is going to be behind by a lot in a lot of games this year.  Still, in the right situation, he will flourish, a la Sunday.

|> (Yes, I am aware of yesterday's game.  No, I do not think it will happen that 
|>  way twice.)

Perhaps if KC plays Philly in the Superbowl, Philly will have gotten their 
secondary problems worked out and Krieg won't be able to pick them apart like he
did Sunday.  Still, Philly had a mere field goal's worth of offense through the 
third period, so in order for a rematch to be lopsided in Philly's favor they'll
have to figure out KC's defense too.  If they have that much coaching/playing
talent, then I am not certain even Jesus Elway could save the Chiefs.

David Langrock
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