From: rgc@eagle.inesc.pt (Rui Gustavo Crespo)
Subject: Re: Is there a solution for East Timor?
Organization: INESC
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:41:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.145001.44887@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, hsiahaan@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
|> {Text deleted}
|> 	i can see you are misinformed badly about indonesian government system.
|> 	each province in indonesia is given great authonomy rights to take care
|> 	of the local development. they have their own government including the
|> 	local house of representatives (maybe inaccurate for DPR).they can make
|> 	their own (local) development programs and administratives. even local 
|> 	security forces (police squads) are also of local goverment's responsi-
|> 	bility.

Ok! Please inform me if :-
  a) Are there local elections where parties are free to express their opinion
(we do have such elections in Acores and Madeira).
  b) If so, is the local government directly apointed by the local parliament (or
whatever you call it), or by Suharto?
   In Portugal we have addopted the former solution to Acores and Madeira.

|> 	if i misinterpreted your proposal, i am sorry. but your proposal is not
|> 	necessary, since it is the system apllied in indonesia right now.what 
|> 	jakarta does mainly is to put a watch on more federal problems.problems
|> 	such as rebellions in ET whcih cannot be put off by local forces should
|> 	be helped by indonesian army (ABRI).

Again, a similar question.
   c) Are ETers free to express their ideias about integration, authonomy or
independence?
If so, then I agree guerrila has no purpose and should be stopped (not harshly,
but by negotiations).
If not (I suspect so), don't you feel strange that a guerrilla remains alive in an
island which has no borders with other countries beyond Indonesia (and, hence,
it is impossible to establish a base outside)? Futhermore, how can the huge
difference in material and troups be sustained IF THEY HAVE NO SUPPORT FROM THE
MAUBERE PEOPLE (as indonesians say)?
    
|> 	gives us more time!.the santa cruize massacre should not be used as the
|> 	'time-limit', but instead as an 'accelerator'. you can see that now in-
|> 	donesia becomes more careful taking care any problem in ET and others.

Two questions...
   d) Don't you think strange that after 17 years of scholls, roads, hospitals
and so on, still people are against the integration?
   e) Futhermore, MOST OF THE DEMONSTRATORS WERE YOUNG, born under the indonesian
flag. Hence, how can you can that more time will vanish the rejection of
integration?

I am looking forward to see Indonesia more careful about ET. Unfortunatly,
indonesian army still forbids free access of media and Human Rights organizations
to East Timor. That is a signal that contradicts your (and mine) whishes.

|> 	as i see, you have misinformed about indoensia. you might be wrong in
|> 	other things about indonesia too, won't you ?

That's why I post to alt.culture.indonesia! You could start to answer my questions
above. Those (and other) could make me better informed about Indonesia and East
Timor in particular.

|> if you cannot accept our
|> 	being united, we should be suspicious of you remembering you past his-
|> 	tory as a colonizer. dont call this paranoid, but just a prevention.

I do accept Indonesia unity only if :-
   * It is expressed freely by the people.
   * No human rights are violated to force the integration.

|>  My postings are solely of my opinions. They will, should, and cannot be 
|>  interpreted as of other indonesians'.

The same to me! I have proposed solutions that are not result from the official
policies or from other portuguese.

|> 	instead of telling us what is acceptable or unacceptable to you (or
|> 	others ? you might not represent everybody's opinion, you know ?),
|> 	tell us your other (hopefully acceptable) ideas.

Once again, how about the Andorra (or Quebec) solution for East Timor? I posted
the first proposal, but I got very few public answers from indonesians (only by
private e-mail).

All the best...

---Crespo
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