HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jns@wam.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer)
Subject: Re: Murdering Adonis
Organization: University of Maryland
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:08:51 GMT

Mara Chibnik (mara@panix.com) wrote:
 
> dfs@lestat.bellcore.com (Deborah Swayne) writes:
>  >...Hilary's gender is meticulously not specified, as far as I can tell.
> 
> Right.  Hilary is famous for that.  I didn't know whether Jeff had
> noticed yet.  

As it happens [at the time], I *hadn't* noticed; but a kind
friend wrote me by e-mail and asked what was the gender of
Hilar Tamar.  I sat and thought about all that I'd read so
far, and realized that I couldn't tell, and that this
was carefully arranged [with Malice Aforethought?] by the
author.  So, in fact Mara,

> ...I'm betting that you can read them for quite 
> a while without even noticing.

You win the bet, because I simply hadn't noticed it.

>  >And I can't figure out how old Hilary is, either....
> 
> The lack of definition adds to the generalized sexual innuendo, I
> think.  I'm not sure just how age factors into any of this.  I've
> pretty much decided that Professor Tamar isn't all that much older
> than the rest of the legal crowd ....

That would seem to be necessary; about the only hint I get
is that Prof. Tamar keeps referring to Tim as a protoge, and
Tim doesn't seem particularly younger than the lawyers.  But
then, how old are they?  Perhaps we would tend to answer,
"oh, about my age"; I would.  Think about it.

> I've seen only three books in this series; I'd love to see more!

Alas, my e-informants tell me that this is all.

And, yes, I finally finished it this weekend, and it held
up quite well through the end.  It's still on my recommended
list.  [There are things I'd like to talk about concerning
the denoument in light of the recent discussion surrounding
'Basic Instinct', but I don't want to give anything away....]

--jns
From: bgribble@jarthur.claremont.edu (Bill Gribble)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Born Again Virgin (Re: Pride Parades)
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:48:59 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711

In article <1992Apr13.225254.405@news.unomaha.edu> ACM022@Zeus.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:
> (Do you remember how *boring* virginity was? *shudder*)

Virginity boring?  Honey, I'm a virgin every time I go to a new club, 
and I'm NEVER bored.  

>John Dorrance				** Disco Diva y Flamenco Chico **

Bill
From: jcollier@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (John Donald Collier)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Evolutionary reason for homo/bisexuality?
Date: 9 Apr 92 09:42:02 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne, Australia

To: rich@netcom.com
Subject: Re: Evolutionary reason for homo/bisexuality?
Newsgroups: soc.motss,soc.bi

Richard Poppen (rich@netcom.com) writes:

>Recently I've found myself speculating on a question that,
>surprisingly, I haven't seen discussed here:  What is the evolutionary
>reason for homo- and bisexuality?

I don't think that there is a scientifically justified answer, nor 
need there be any, according to what we know. For some of the
recent literature, check out Michael Ruse _Homosexuality_ (pro), 
E.O. Wilson _Sociobiology_ (look in index, and at the gorgeous lions), 
_On Human Nature_ (index again) (both pro). Philip Kitcher _Vaulting
Ambition_ (section two cheers for homosexuality -- anti) and Dawkins
_The Extended Phenotype_ (look in index -- both anti and fcetious beyond
reason). Not altogether a great chapter of science, but the best 
available by mainstream writers in biology and philosophy.

Incidentally, someone mentioned evolutionary reasons for opiate
use facetiously. There are of course opiate receptors that
work on endorphins. Presumably these evolved for some reason.
As far as I know the question of whether exchange media have 
a biological basis is not decided either. It is premature to have
an opinion on a lot of such issues. Current thought in anthropology
is tending towards a culture/nurture mix for many widespread human
behavioural traits. But the tendencies have been in diametrically
opposite ways in the past. The evidence simply is not in.
-- 
John Collier 			Email: jcollier@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
HPS -- U. of Melbourne		  	Fax:   61+3 344 7959
Parkville, Victoria, AUSTRALIA 3052
From: aberson@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: RE: Auto-Fellatio (Re: Heterosexual Exploitation of Homosexuality?)
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:33:58 GMT
Organization: NIST

In a previous article, sik@cci632.cci.com (Shawn Kammerdiener) wrote:
>	My question is whether it's kosher ?

As long as you fast on Yom Kippur.  And watch out not to allow it to rise
during Passover.

                                                                        __
    Sim David Aberson   Ft. Lauderdale, FL   aberson%3338.span@sdsc.edu \/
From: buckmr@RPI.EDU (Rondel K. Buckmire)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund: 1-900-678-3863
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:24:32 GMT


The Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund is a political action committee that gives 
 money to gay/lesbian/bisexual candidates in elections throughout the country.
They were instrumental in the election of Shirley Harris, a African American
Lesbian, being elected to the City Council in Seattle last year. They only 
support openly gay/lesbian/bisexual candidates. The candidates this year they
are supporting include: Gail Shibley [in Oregon, I believe] and Tom Nolan of
California. There are three others but alas I forget their names. Anyway, the
GLVF usually operates by asking you to donate $100 and agree to make two other
$100 donations. But with this 1-900-678-3863 one can make a donation of $19.92
per call to the GLVF.

Just thought you'd like to know...

---
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735.  ``D.C. in 93!''
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
"Dick--my bottom hurts just thinking about it!" - MADONNA, _Dick Tracy_ sndtrck
From: aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Anthony Berno)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Harpsichords (was:Czech this out)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 01:45:55 GMT
Reply-To: aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca

In article <92106.193203IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU  
(Ailsa N.T. Murphy) writes:
> not to insult jess, but harpsichords are such wonderful objects
> that one doesn't NEED a lot of skill for people to anjoy hearing
> them played...  a woman who could play one of those things could
> ask anything....

Agreed. I'm very sensitive about my harpsichord playing, since I'm not  
very good and I don't like to annoy people with the weeks of endless work  
it takes me to learn even the simplest fugue. However, when friends of  
mine come over, even if they are highly mediocre players, the sound of the  
instrument is so beautiful that I could listen for hours. Much better in  
real life than on CD.

Now, at the baroque workshop I attended last summer in Marin County, a  
woman there arranged the "Concerto for Four Harpsichords and Harpsichord",  
which was the first performed work that actually caused me to shed tears  
during its performance. Gods above, what a sound!

ObMotss: oh, I can't think of any motss relevance to this. Sigh...

-Anthony
From: larry@bradley.bradley.edu (Larry D. Stratton)
Subject: AIDS GROUPS
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 19:20:09 GMT


   I contribute to AMFAR and, as a result, I think I'm now on 
   every charity mailing list in the country.  How does one
   weed out the less effective (shades of United Way), non-religious
   (shades of Salvation Army) groups?  Weeding out everything but
   Am. Heart (mom died of heart disease), Am. Cancer (dad dood it)
   and AIDS (all my friends) isn't hard but which AIDS agencies are
   legit and concentrate on research?

   The mailing today was from AIDS Action Council.  Anyone know
   anything?


-- 
"Closets are for clothes" 
"Those who don't know are terminally stupid or virginally new"
"I should have known it was doomed.  I don't like tea."  -Tea for Two
L. D. Stratton   larry@bradley.edu   (309) 693-8500 when all else fails
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik)
Subject: Re: These Boots Weren't Made For Walking
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 10:16:52 GMT
Bcc: cmcl2!wam.umd.edu!jns 
Organization: (getting there)



jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) reports:
   >>>I have certainly seen some attractive images of men wearing boots, a hat,
   >>>and very little else. 
anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
 >Intriguing scents in their skin-fold areas! :-)

Please, Jess, how do you _see_ this?

[JNS, can you help with this one?]



-- 

  Mara Chibnik
  mara@panix.com                Life is too important to be taken seriously.

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jns@wam.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer)
Subject: Re: Queer Humor
Organization: University of Maryland
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 05:07:39 GMT

Mara Chibnik (mara@panix.com) wrote:
 
> rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:
>  > [...] the BBC (as opposed to me who has no definite article) [...]
> 
> I do think we should get Bob a definite article.  

Mara, you miss the obvious: Bobby *is* a definite article.

> Is this Queer Humor?

If we're not, who is?

--jns
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Subject: Re: Ann Landers
Organization: insert anything here
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 14:26:19 GMT

mike@batpad.lgb.CA.US (Mike Batchelor) writes:
>twpierce@amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:

>> In article <17688@awdprime.UUCP>, jfh@greenber.austin.ibm.com (John F Haugh I

>> > Likewise, if some brain scan or hormone
>> > test is ever able to reveal homosexuality in the womb, homosexuals
>> > will be the first to line up on the pro-life side of the abortion
>> > debate, probably even before Christians and Conservatives ...

>> I think that's pretty absurd, and I'm curious to know how you
>> came to that conclusion.  I think that a lot of people who
>> consider themselves pro-choice would be horrified to imagine
>> aborting a fetus because of its gender or sexual orientation.

>He didn't come to that conclusion.  He's mouthing something Rush
>Limbaugh said about a month ago.  It was stupid then and it is even
>more stupid when repeated almost verbatim.

>However, I was typing on another network where this same point was
>brought up, and I asked a person, who expressed the same idea JFH did,
>if he would reverse his anti-abortion stance if such a scan revealed
>that his wife's fetus was potentially homosexual.  His rather alarming
>reply:  "I believe that abortion is homicide, but in the case of a
>homosexual fetus, I think it would be justifiable homicide."

	I've heard this before, in one case from the supposedly-accepting
parent of a gay son who said "Well, I accept my son's homosexuality, but
if there had been a test and I had known he would have been gay,
I might have had an abortion so [get this!] he would have been spared
growing up to be unhappy his whole life..."


But hey, people like that are on our side, 4right?

BBC
From: mike@batpad.lgb.CA.US (Mike Batchelor)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: These Boots Weren't Made For Walking
Date: 11 Apr 92 01:01:31 GMT
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

> In article <1992Apr9.233332.4444@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>
> mls@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (mike.siemon) writes:
> >In article <1992Apr9.225039.18521@spdcc.com>, dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
> >writes:
> >> Doncha _hate_ it when people use "prostrate" instead of "prostate"?
> 
> >Down with prostatocentrism!  I suspect that one could well enjoy the
> >stimulation of any number of other glands when prostrate ...
> 
> O, would that you, Sue, pined for me!
> 
> (Prosthetic humor.)

I can't think of an appendage for your remark, but I wood post it if I
could.



[] ---
[] Mike Batchelor -- mike@batpad.lgb.CA.US -- cerritos.edu!batpad!mike
[] Long Beach, California
[] TNG Quote: "You were travelling in close formation at over 80,000 kph, only
[] 10 meters from Cadet Albert, and you didn't even know his orientation?!?"
From: db4s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Daniel Ryan Bidwa)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: postcard mutilations?
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:08:48 GMT
Organization: Software Engineering Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>black@lester.sybase.com (Christina Black [Chris]) writes:
>> My housemate Andy recently got back from the post office a mutilated
>> shred of the "yes I'm glad to be gay" postcard he sent to Ann Landers.
>> The post office says it was accidentally damaged in transit.  We suspect
>> that it was homophobic vandalism.  Has anyone else had a similar
>> experience?

jduke@Autodesk.COM (Jeff Duke) writes:
>My friend has sent me homoerotic postcards through the mail
>without any problems.  I expected them to get defaced, but they have
>been delivered suprisingly clean.
>Of course this doesn't mean that there aren't some phobes
>out there working for the postal service.

Having just received a lovely postcard of a man's naked crotch (thanks,
Bill!), I can offer at least one data point to Jeff's position. No problems
with any postcards sent to our house (btw, Bill, it's 11, not 1, but I'm sure
the postperson has us pegged as the house of weird mail anyhow), and there's
been some strange ones. US mail's hardly reliable, but I doubt most of the
people handling the mail give two hoots about what it looks like. (Again, like
Jeff said, that doesn't mean there aren't phobes in the mail room.)

Dan "but ask me about the architect's tube they folded"
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Regarding the NY/NJ CON Proposal
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:37:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: macc.1992Apr8.023741.8295
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison


In article <1992Apr8.000333.29965@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com
(Steve Dyer) writes:

>Sure, Roger's entitled to his opinion, but we're entitled to
>react in response.  If he thinks those remarks of his were
>flattering to him, I think he's hallucinating.

I really have no way to evaluate what you say.  It's the
ganging up that bothers me the most.

-- 
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Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: onr@netcom.com (D. Owen Rowley)
Subject: Re: The Mythical Marketplace of Ideas
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 04:15:57 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 


Snort!

XUL .. owen

-- 
D. Owen Rowley .. Note this acct is not my primary USENET access
mail gets to me quicker if you send it to owen@autodesk.com

*No matter where you go, there you are.*
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: outing the stars
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 06:39:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.211148.3573@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.153908.15077@amhux2.amherst.edu> twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>>>>Not being a lesbian, I became a computer scientist.
>>>I wish I had a quotes file.
>>So start one!  I caved in under pressure, too ...
>
>I thought about dropping this in my .signature file, but I decided it
>would really only be appropriate in soc.motss. I envisoned some
>posting of mine to a technical newsgroup in which someone reads the
>signature and gets offended. I should fix my signature software to be
>newsgroup specific.

Talk to Arnold Zwicky.  He programmed the signature software for the
auto-Jess.

It's rather amusing, incidentally, what things offend people and what
do not.  I had a Tanenbaum quote in my .sig for quite some time,
believing it a creation of our sysadmin: "Never underestimate the
bandwidth of a station wagon filled with tapes."  I finally took it
out after the fortieth Andy Tanenbaum fan wrote me to correct the
wording.

>>(Besides, this one fits your criteria, Nelson.  It's only one line
>>long ... just edit out the period.)
>
>How did you know what my criteria were? Are they that obvious?

People like _me_, we understand.  It's that one-line-dar ... never
fails.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "Someone here suggested blue square badges for
\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      /  straights.  Maybe we should try mauve
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  heptagons?" - Damian Cugley, on soc.bi
From: rickc@agora.uucp (Rick Coates)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Heinlein & Who Are Vincent's Three?
Date: 5 Apr 92 22:00:55 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Open Communications Forum

manis@cs.ubc.ca (Vincent Manis) writes:

[about Robert Heinlein]

>            But much of his work before that (curiously, especially the
>asexual juveniles) are actually well written. 
 ^^^^^^^
Hmmm...  I haven't read it in over a quarter of a century, but I
remember vividly the book 'Red Planet', about two adolescent boys
having an adventure on Mars.  No doubt it was my own wishful
thinking and over-active twelve year old glands, but those two
seemed _awfully_ close.  I loved that book.


>ObMotss: Name three famous gay or lesbian SF writers (these should all
>be Big Names in the Field). This isn't a challenge; it's too easy. 

Well, we've got Delaney (whose work I've never read, so not surprising
I didn't know), one can only assume Marion Bradley...  so who's the
Household Name?


Rick


Rick Coates					rickc@agora.rain.com
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rogerk@QueerNet.ORG (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Subject: Re: Get Fat! Re: Exercise (Was Re: ... laundry?)
Reply-To: rogerk@QueerNet.ORG (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Organization: QueerNet
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 14:21:12 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.204027.6901@uoft02.utoledo.edu>, fax0405@uoft02.utoledo.edu
(Gary Klein, bear at heart) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr6.114450.26547@ircam.fr>, francis@ircam.fr (Joseph
|> Francis)
|>  writes:
|> 
|> > 8) A certain Jewish deli-restaurant in a certain area on Fairfax;
|> > Chicken Kreplach; Matzo-ball soup; Dr. Brown's Cream Soda; Meatloaf;
|>                                                  ^^^^^
|> 
|>           True afficianados of Jewish delis would know that the
|>           preferred flavor is Dr. Brown's CELERY Soda.

That's "Cel-Ray"...  Oy.
-- 
ROGER B.A. KLORESE                                              +1 415 ALL-ARFF
rogerk@unpc.QueerNet.ORG                 {ames,decwrl,pyramid}!mips!unpc!rogerk
"Normal is not something to aspire to, it's something to get away from."
                                                                   -- J. Foster
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: max@athena.mit.edu (Max Meredith Vasilatos)
Subject: Re: Heterosexual Exploitation of Homosexuality?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 03:57:19 GMT

exotica@milton.u.washington.edu (Tsilke Pearlman) writes:
> max@athena.mit.edu (Max Meredith Vasilatos) writes:

>>What, aside from saying to the press "I am a lesbian,"
>>did you have in mind as "cannot be mistaken for anything
>>but a lesbian"?  Hmmm?

> All I can say is, none of the women in Madonna's videos
> set my gaydar off at all. I want loud, klaxon alarms. I want women
> who ring my lesbo bell as loudly as Madonna's boyz ring my fag
> bell. I want her in bed with two women (with or without dildos) the
> way she lounges with the cone tit boyz in Truth or Dare. I want videos
> that don't end up focussing on het sex. I want Madonna as shot 
> by Fatale Video (lesbian pornographers), not as done by the Mitchell
> Brothers (straight male pornographers). 

You don't like Fatale's actors, so you think they 
should use Madonna instead?  

> I want some proof that she 
> thinks dykes, not just fags, are cool - and HOT. I haven't seen any.
> Have you, Max?

All I've seen is a bunch of people who look like they
work in the mainstream entertainment industry.  To get
what you want, support the people who create it.  
Madonna isn't them, from what you say.

Max
max@athena.mit.edu
From: tdober@llnl.gov
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: "Beast"iality (was: Re: ST:TNG)
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:55:20 GMT
            <92092.114017IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <2084@uswnvg.UUCP>
Distribution: na
Organization: LLNL

In article <2084@uswnvg.UUCP>, dfpedro@nv2.uswnvg.com (Donn F. Pedro) writes:
> 
> However, the actual process
> of changing was one of the better animation sequences I have
> seen.
>
>      Donn Pedro ...................{uunet, sequent, pn400}!uswnvg!dfpedro.


Actually, that sequence gave me giggle fits. Especially when the
rays of golden light came streaming out his toes.

I liked the "beast" persona better too. Just once, I'd like to see
an adaptation or novelization of "Beauty and the Beast" where the
Beast *stays* a beast. (Or where Beauty doesn't love him anymore
once he's just another ordinary human...)

TDO
From: pclary@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Heinlein & Who Are Vincent's Three?
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:05:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: rat.1992Apr09.200508.9920
Organization: Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo, CA - aka Barnum & Bailey

pmm7@midway.uchicago.edu wrote...
>In article <1992Apr7.020957.1817@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>>I forget - does Bradley's Mists of Avalon have motss content? I know I
>>liked it when I read it in high school because the men weren't the
>>major characters, but I don't remember details.
>
>yes.  for me they weren't minor details, but i wanted *more*, and
>definitley more *explicit*.  sigh.  what a good book.  i must go 
>and re-read it...

Good depressing book.  I wanted it to end halfway through while
they were all at least a little happy.

I may have missed some of the discussion, but has anyone mentioned
Elizabeth Lynn?  She is great at smoothly integrating her character's
sexuality into the story, without sexuality being an issue.

--
 Patricia "Ellen" Clary              | "Caution: Ice pick weilding bisexual
 pclary@polyslo.csc.CalPoly.EDU      |  fag dyke.  Do not agitate."
 pclary@nike.CalPoly.EDU             |         A 'Catherine Did It' T-Shirt
From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Queer Humor
Date: 17 Apr 92 13:33:08 GMT
Organization: insert anything here

jns@wam.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer) writes:
>Mara Chibnik (mara@panix.com) wrote:

>> rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:
>>  > [...] the BBC (as opposed to me who has no definite article) [...]

>> I do think we should get Bob a definite article.  
>Mara, you miss the obvious: Bobby *is* a definite article.

	Hmmmmm (wondering what I let myself into)...  Why does the
mental picture I get reading this have the implications that I should
be either watered or dusted weekly?  :-)  Not that it weouldn't be
a BAD idea...  :-)

	176 days until D-Day (penciled in defense day).  I got back
a referee's comments from a short journal article on "results to date".
We've been doing a lkot of writing lately and were musing about who
would likely referee what paper.  During the course of that, one
name came out as being v"very picky and demanding".  Guess who
refereed my paper... :-)  But while one of the suggestions is driving
me crazy, the overall comments were VERY encouraging!  "... is an
excellent work that will stimulate new observations and theoretical
work...  I commend the authors for a good piece of work..."

	Whew!  So, so far so good...  Now if I could just get my
#)(%$)($)(#*%$ images reduced...

	Motss relevance:  I promise I'll be more coherent in 1993... ;-)
OR at the very least there'll be some serious partying later on this
year... (tonight we'll settle for good Szechuan...).

a BBC
(haven't you heard? I now come in 6-packs)
[Apologies to D. Adams]

P.S.  I suppose there's no reason to hold out hope for a steamy
100% pornographic gay sex scene in "The Babe", huh?