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From: cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: BTAS: The Cape and Cowl Conspiracy 10-14
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:58:14 GMT
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wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:

>(2) Has this Wormwood character shown up in the comics or anywhere
>else?

Yes.  This episode was an adaptation of the story "The Cape-and-Cowl
Deathtrap", from DETECTIVE COMICS #450, written by Elliot Maggin and
drawn by Walt Simonson.  Wormwood's first name in the story was "Jeremy".
He's never appeared anywhere else, though.


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From: as029@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Victor M. Rosario)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: A new LQTV epsiode when? Sundays or Tuesdays?
Date: 8 Oct 1992 13:35:36 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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I am confused. When is the new Liquid Televsions eps are broadcasted?
I tought it was Tuesdays 'cuz after I saw it Sunday, they showed a
brand new episode for TUESDAY!!
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From: jfreund@mindvox.phantom.com (Jim Freund)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Tim Curry
Date: 15 Oct 92 07:30:07 GMT
Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system

Some other Tim Curry roles I haven't seen anyone post (yet):

Three Men in a Boat

TV: Wiseguy -- Sir Winston Newquay

Broadway: Amadeus (Mozart) Tony Award as Best Actor
Tom Stoppard's Travesties (Tristam Tzara) another Tony Award

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Review of LTV show 2: 3
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:59:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsl.1992Oct15.155937.20376
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1992Oct15.141300.18545@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@seahorse.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
> 
> Hey, I have never had a problem understanding "JacMac and Radboy"!
> Course, I saw it before it was on MTV/Ltv...

Same here (Maaaan, I miss NIGHT FLIGHT), but I STILL couldn't make sense
of most of the dialogue.

> What, no "Winter Steele" fans?

Here's one, but there was no WS in show #3.  I must admit, the writing is
MUCH improved from the first season, and it seems the story is getting
somewhere, now that Winter knows that Crow is in Vegas...

Actually, this last show was rather mediocre, apart from the regular stuff
like THE SPECIALISTS, WINTER STEELE, STICK FIGURE THEATRE, and DOCTOR ZUM
EXPLORES AND EXPLAINS THE FORBIDDEN SECRETS OF THE UNKNOWN AND THE FORBIDDEN
(whew!).  Hmm.  Maybe the show wasn't all that bad after all.  :-)

Next week:  something with a hardboiled machine-gun toting dog (looks good),
and the US premiere of "The Running Man".  Definitely a must-see.
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From: entpph@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Review of LTV show 2: 3
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:21:02 GMT
Reply-To: entpph@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

Annie Potts was one of the designing women on the cbs sitcom,
wasn't she?

rotoscoping is the process of, by using the animation camera as
a projector (you gotta install a prism and a condensor lamp),
projecting a live action figure onto paper and tracing it--usually
every other frame.  There may be a more tedious gig in the world,
but I don't know what it would be.

Erik Timmerman
Film/Video Department
RIT
From: xorcist@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: A new LQTV epsiode when? Sundays or Tuesdays?
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 19:06:56 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

as029@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Victor M. Rosario) writes:

>
> I am confused. When is the new Liquid Televsions eps are broadcasted?
> I tought it was Tuesdays 'cuz after I saw it Sunday, they showed a
> brand new episode for TUESDAY!!

The new ones are Tuesdays and "encore" presentations are Sunday.
<X>orcist

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From: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: x-men promos
Date: 16 Oct 1992 07:12:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews)
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In a previous article, boehmer9694@iscsvax.uni.edu () says:

>Personally, I think that if the show is done half as well as Batman:TAS, it
>should be great. (or I could watch it the good half of the time and it would be
>awesome! :) )

I don't think Batman TAS is *that* good.

>You can gripe if you want, but what would you have to gripe about if they
>hadn't put it out at all?

Nothing, but the half-hour might be used for something worthwhile.  :-P

What good are Wolverine's claws if he can't cut anyone?  Oh, I know, he'll
slice telephone poles, and they'll conveniently fall on the bad guys.

The reason I gripe is because I love the X-Men, as they were when they
were great, and I just see this series as the final nail in the coffin
of mediocrity that Marvel has been building ever since they began flooding
the market with mutant books.

			---------- Ryan Mathews
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From: mfrose@ais.org (Martin Rose)
Subject: Re: From the "What the..." file
Organization: UMCC
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 17:05:05 GMT

In article <Bvvyos.HA0@ais.org> mfrose@ais.org (Martin Rose) writes:
>So what in the name of Zarquon is the deal with the TV guide?  They claim to
>have an 11:30am slot for X-Men.  TOMORROW.

Yes, it was an error.  I like "George of the Jungle" anyway. B)
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From: gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan)
Subject: Beyond the Minds Eye comes out within the month
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 03:37:00 GMT



The ads have already been in the video trade mags, I don't remember the 
exact date, but it's street date is in October.

Ryan Gavigan
gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu

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From: staven@vax  (Kurt Staven)
Subject: Call for Film and Video
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Keywords: animation
Reply-To: staven@ftp.com
Organization: FTP Software, Inc., Wakefield, MA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:04:28


			Fourth Annual

		MEDICINE WHEEL ANIMATION FESTIVAL

		P.O. Box 1088, Groton, MA  01450
			508-448-3717

Deadline: December 1, 1992

The Medicine Wheel Animation Festival is a non-competitive event.  Instead, 
filmmakers share 20% of the net ticket sales.  Each filmmaker is paid a 
minimum of $50 and receives more depending on the length of the film and 
amount of ticket sales.

The Festival tours in February and March and plays at universities and 
commercial art theatres in cities and towns all along the East Coast.  This
year we will also travel to the West Coast and Paris, France.

The Festival is produced by Medicine Wheel Artists' Retreat, a non-profit
organization devoted to providing artists of all disciplines with
opportunities and support.  Our goal is to raise enough money to buy property
in New England and form a permanent residence.

Films or videos may be submitted by any independent filmmaker.  No films of 
commercial nature will be considered.  Films will not be considered without
a completed application form and must be received by Dec. 1, 1992.

Films are chosen by a Selection Committee and Director of Programming.  Films
are chosen for originality, technique, and content.  We're looking for an
alternative to the other animation festivals out there.  The Festival gels as
a complete unit, so an excellent film may not be selected this year because it
didn't fit the mix.

For an application, write or call the above address and number. 

If you know of a good theatre that shows animation festivals in your area,
send us the name and address and we'll try to bring it there.  Also,
student groups can show this festival as a fund raiser and keep anything over 
the daily rental of $500.

You can email me at STAVEN.FTP.COM.

	--Kurt Staven



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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: Acting Our Age
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 03:20:30 GMT

I suppose I should have included quotes on "childish act", but when you say 
"usually denotes" you are contradicting yourself.  Denotes is always.  Childish
connotes immaturity, but the whole point of my last post on this thread was
that childishness in itself, the denotation, was not bad.  Unfortunately, the 
connotation is bad because we (please excuse sweeping generalization to follow)
are insecure enough about our 'adulthood' that any hint of being childlike is a
major blow to the ego.  Hence people will refuse to do something childlike 
because they automatically think it to be immature.  However, the very 
insecurity betrays the immaturity of the individuals.  People in High Places 
are especially susceptible to this.  The logic is: Kids like cartoons => Liking
cartoons is a childlike thing to do => Adults don't like cartoons, and since 
I'm an Adult I am not allowed to like cartoons.  The insecurity comes in at the
second arrow.  In order that one's Adulthood not be questioned, one must not 
have any traits or behaviors in common with Children.  It's kinda like the old 
Women show emotion => Men don't show emotion lest they be branded effeminiate 
logic trap, and about as valid.  Too much exclusionary thinking:  If you're A 
then you cannot/are not B.  Too many Americans (and others) never realize that
A and B aren't mutually exclusive.  Maturity and childlike behavior aren't
contradictory in all cases.  Unfortunately for cartoons, they have been tarred
with the "Children" label in our culture for the last generation, so only those
able to reconcile A and B can really let themselves enjoy them (provided that
the cartoon doesn't suck, of course).  Of course, there are those that abandon
the notion that they should be mature (or have yet to develop the notion) and
they can enjoy cartoons too, but tend to be used as examples to reinforce the
idea that Adults Don't Watch Cartoons.
     Dave Van Domelen, not neurotic about either my maturity or my gender
identity, but take away my watch, my email and my snailmail and I go berserk
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From: srh3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Steven R. Hollis)
Subject: Re: voice of mad hatter
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:41:24 GMT

    Thanks for your replies.  My roomate wanted to know if the voice of
the hatter was really the guy from Planet of the Apes

Thanks again 
Steve

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From: ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Re: BTAS: 10/09	 The Forgotten
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 22:48:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.152545.2488@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach) writes:
> I felt like I was watching an episode from THE INCREDIBLE HULK.
> Very bad writing on this episode.  Alfred skulking around a slummy
> junkyard in his tuxedo!  Smart-aleck bat-computers!  Sheesh.
> 
> But the episode wasn't a total loss.  It had some nice action
> sequences, even if the animation wasn't all that hot.

I likes the dream sequences, personally, but not much else.

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From: speters@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (Stephen Peters)
Subject: Re: Warner Brothers (was: Why tinytoons?)
Organization: Oracle World HQ, Redwood Shores, California
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:15:55 GMT
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In article <Bw2qK1.K5M@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> mwdenney@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Michael W. Denney) writes:
>Whoa! That one almost slipped by me. :)  I think your reason for saying this
>is that the "wacky parodies, celebrity cameos, and such" that are very frequent
>in classic WB are so familar that they seem to belong to the cartoons.  Since
>many of the references are from the time period, today's viewer may miss them
>and think they are just part of the cartoon.
>
>Therefore to enlighten :) :
>  Daffy Duck's voice is a parody of Leon Schlesinger, the producer.

And Leon thought that the voice was great, never realizing that it was his own. :-)

>  All the Coyote and Road Runner cartoons open with freeze frames of the
>  characters with fake latin names below them.

Well, not *all* -- a good many do, and it's always a treat.

>  In uncountable cartoons, caractiures of the WB staff are used as extras.

And even more often, their names or puns on their names.  I recall the 
opening to one cartoon announced the great opera star "Giovanni Jones", and 
"Duck Dodgers in the 24 1/2th Century" had, among many other famous criminals,
Chuck Jones, Ted Avery, and many more...

>  "What's Opera Doc?" is a parody of Disney's Fantasia.

My impression has always been that it is actually a six-minute synopsis of 
Vagner's Ring Trilogy, rather than Fantasia.  Admittedly, there are parts
of WOD which are highly reminiscent of Fantasia, but I think that's mostly
because the creators of Fantasia were also highly influenced by several
operatic works.

>  "You sound just like that guy on the radio, the Great Gildersleeve." - this
>  is a reference to an actual person.

Quick note, it's "Great Gildersneeze" in the WB cartoon, although Gildersleeve
is the name of the person -- actually a radio personality that Mel Blanc was
doing a dead-on impersonation of.

>As you can see, I could go on and on.  This is just some that came to me off
>the top of my head.  I should add, however, that WB had several cartoons that
>did not have any major cartoon stars but were filled with caractiures.

Including a wonderful cartoon parodying a party held at Jack Benny's mansion,
with caricatures of Cary Grant, Bogart, Jimmy Durante...

Also, one of my favorite WB references to famous stars -- Daffy Duck dresses
up and does a Danny Kaye impersonation in a musical retelling of "Little Red 
Riding Hood" set in a world populated by many major novels and magazines of the
time.

Stephen Peters, SUN SBU, Oracle Corp.
I don't speak for Oracle.  Who would speak for an oracle?
From: rosk@rillonia.ssc.gov (Robert Skegg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Archies WANTED
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:35:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: sunova.1992Oct7.173517.2334
Organization: SSC

Anyone know where I can get a copy (video tape) of the TV(?) cartoon 
sequence of The Archies performing Sugar Sugar (Late 1969) ?

Robert Skegg.
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: BTAS: Mad Hatter
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:15:28 GMT

Yesterday I got so engrossed in my Quantum Mech homework (hey, don't laugh!  It
happens) that I forgot about BTAS until halfway thru the show.  What I did see 
was excellent, and the ending scene cutting to the Mock Turtle was great.  But 
what was the title, so I can scan later episode forecasts for reruns?
     Dave Van Domelen, "Gee, I've spent an hour and a half on this assignment 
and I'm almost done...SH*T!" - quote from yesterday from me
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From: ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny)
Subject: DRAGON'S LAIR animation
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:39:18 GMT

The mention of Don Bluth animation made me remember one of my all-time
hugest wishes...for the laser-disks of the arcade games DRAGON'S LAIR
and DRAGON'S LAIR II to come out in complete format.  Y'know, playing
from beginning to end (perhaps with all of the "deaths" played as a tag
on at the end?).
 
Does anyone know where I could obtain a copy of this or if such copies
exist (if not, why?)...etc.  
 
Info, info, info?
 
...e
 

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From: mwdenney@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Michael W. Denney)
Subject: Hanna-Barbera (was: Why tinytoons?
Keywords: Babies
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:24:28 GMT

In article <1arcjfINNmod@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> anamr@cats.ucsc.edu (Ana M Rodriguez) writes:
> 
>If the Japanese like Tiny Toons, that is saying a lot about the show.
> 
>Not many American shows make it over there.  They hate Hana Barbara as
>much as I do!!  It really sucks!!  
> 
I think I understand why Hanna-Barbera gets a lot of slack around here, but
aren't we being a bit harsh?  Admittedly, the quality of the animation isn't
comparable to say Warner Brothers ( shameless plug) but we must remember they
saved cartoons to a certain extent.  When the movie theaters stopped playing
cartoons, it didn't seem economical to produce cartoons for t.v. only.  Hanna
and Barbera developed "limited animation" which uses less drawings, decreased
the quality, but made them affordable.  

Hanna and Barbera themselves weren't exactly thrilled with having to use this
process, but the times demanded it.  And they still managed to provide their
characters with personality.  Surely, they're not all bad?  Aren't Scooby-Doo,
Dyno-mutt, or Dick Dastardly and Mutley able to make you smile? Once in a
whlie?

(OK - that's today's history lesson. Class dismissed.)

Michael
 a.k.a. The Phantom Scribbler

   - And so, having disposed of the monster, thus exit our hero through 
   - the front door. None the worse for his horrifying experience.
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From: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.anime
Subject: Why so few new ones?  (BTAS, TTA)
Date: 14 Oct 1992 03:21:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews)
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Follow-Up-To: rec.arts.animation


I have cross-posted this to rec.arts.anime so that someone can say I'm
wrong about my argument, which uses anime as an example.  Follow-ups
are set to rec.arts.animation.

In a previous article, someone explained to me that the reason that the
only season of a "stripped" (5 times a week) cartoon in which the majority
of episodes are new ones is the first is because of the time and effort it
takes to make a full 65-episode season.  Supposedly, it took nearly two
years to complete the first season of BATMAN.

But, hey, aren't there FIVE studios working on BATMAN?  If the episodes
are evenly distributed (which I doubt they are, but just for the sake of
argument let's pretend they are), that's 13 episodes per studio.  Does it
really take two years to complete a mere 13 episodes?

I'm pretty sure that in Japan, where anime is not stripped, but run only
once a week, and seasons are about 25 episodes long, that most anime is
done by only one studio, and yet they manage to pump out 25 new ones a year.
Five studios, should, by extension, be able to provide 125 new episodes a
year, though you'd likely kill the actors.  :-)

How many studios work on THE SIMPSONS?  I'm pretty sure it's one, a Korean
one.  They get a season-full on new eps each year, with only a few problems.
(Okay, I heard that one ep wasn't ready to go until the day it was broadcast,
but still, they pulled it off.)

Perhaps a new 65 each year is a pipe dream, but I find it darn near
impossible to believe that five studios working together can't produce more
than a measly 20 new episodes a year.

			---------- Ryan Mathews
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From: ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Tim Curry
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:12:01 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas

In article <1avrtiINNt11@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, megazone@obsidian.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23) writes:
> In article <BvrLF1.EwL@ulowell.ulowell.edu> bkeener@cs.ulowell.edu (Brian E. Keener) writes:
>>I did recognize the name "Tim Curry", but couldn't place it... what has he
>>	done before "Meggalomania"?
> 
> Voice of Captain Hook on Fox, the evil dude in Fern Gully, doctor Petrov in
> The Hunt For Red October, The clown in the miniseries IT, the linguist in 
> Oscar, I think he was in Annie, and of course, his most famous and enduring
> role...
> 
> Frank N' Furter from the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

Add Sir Gawain (sp?) from Prince Valiant to the list; actually, Curry has
done a ton of animated things.  I'm having trouble remembering examples,
but I've noticed him a lot recently.

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