HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: minhaszt@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Zafar T Minhas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Is SEX work or pleasure (joke)
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:14:54 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Cincinnati

In article <1992Oct8.124001.17065@digi.lonestar.org> msardar@digi.lonestar.org (Mohammed Tariq Sardar) writes:
>A reporter is doing a survey to find out whether SEX is WORK or PLEASURE.
>
>Reporter to an American
>
>Reporter:   Sir, Is sex work or pleasure?
>American    It's work.
>Reporter:   Why?
>American    Well, when you are doing it so sweat and that's physical, so it's work
>
>Reporter to an Englishman
>
>Reporter:   Sir, Is sex work or pleasure ?
>Englishman: It's pleasure
>Reporter:   why ?
>Englishman: Well, when you doing it, you are actually enjoying it too, therefore
>	    it's pleasure. 
>
>Reporter to an ARAB:
>
>Reporter:   Sir, Is sex work or pleasure
>Arab:	    It's pleaure.
>Reporter:   why ?
>Arab:	    YOU SEE IF IT WAS WORK I WOULD HAVE GOT SOME INDIAN or PAKISTANI
>	    TO DO THIS FOR ME.

As much as I hate characterizations based on race (racism) I would have to 
agree on this one. Though it is a joke, this is the attitude I have seen
from Arabs about what they think about poor Ajamis (non-Arabs) they like to
use words like majnoon and fakir to label us and then tell us that that
they were joking or that those words mean things like "friend" or "comrade".
Oh well racism is all over the place.

sincerely

zafar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: jaber@court.ahmedi.kt (Sheikh Jaber Subah)
Subject: verbal abuse (was Re: To Martillo)
Originator: martillo@alpha.clearpoint.com (Joachim Martillo)
Organization: Emiri Court, Kuwait
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:46:15 GMT

I see some poeple are tingling all over for a hot verbal bath. I warn some guys of rediculing my articles lest 
they
embarass themselves real bad.
this is only waringn.

sEe you where ***I** want.
--jaber
  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000)
Subject: Re: haha
Organization: LC
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 06:01:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.011135.8830@math.ucla.edu> ashamam@oak.math.ucla.edu (Asher Shamam) writes:
>Q :what's the difference between a palestinean and a bucket of
>camel shit ?
>
>A : the bucket

Why don't you eat a Palestinan and shut up.  Eat SH*T that is.  

jle



Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.iranian
From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: verbal abuse (was Re: To Martillo)
Date: 9 Oct 92 08:44:47 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <strom.73886690@court.ahmedi.kt> jaber@court.ahmedi.kt (Sheikh Jaber Subah) writes:
>I see some poeple are tingling all over for a hot verbal bath. I warn some guys of rediculing my articles lest 
>they
>embarass themselves real bad.
>this is only waringn.
>
>sEe you where ***I** want.
>--jaber
  

Bess oooolaaaayyyy!!!
From: zureick@utasys.uta.edu (Rami Zureick)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Arabic characters on the Net
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:59:00 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <41331@imag.imag.fr>, oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek) writes...

> Given that it's impossible to ask each netter who wishs to write, read in
>Arabic script to acquire an Arabic terminal. A good solution is to emulate
>these terminals on a PC or a workstation. 

Sounds good.

>: 
>:   I am now asking the readers of the group that are interested for help in 
>: studying the possibility of implementing this manipulation of Arabic characters 
>: in their native form.
>: 
>:   This would include:
>: 
>:    - a study of the different solutions that are already available for other
>:    character sets, e.g.: Russian, Japanese, Chinese, and -yes, behold- Hebrew.
>I wonder how could they do for Japanese stuff, the Japanese script (Kan-Ji)is 
>too large to fit into 92 characters font. nothing spectacular about Hebrew, it
>has the same charactersitic of Latin scrit, except that it writes from right to
>left.

I'm a little bit confused here. Are you still trying to get Arabic fonts to
regular terminals (ie. VTxxx)?

>: 
>:    - a study of the technical specifications of the terminal or terminal 
>:    emulator that would allow the display of Arabic characters.
>: 

Thanks for posting the ASMO tables. If I understand the tables correctly,
the ASMO characters are taking the range X80-FF of the ASCII character set;
if this is the case, why is ASMO wasting the range X80-90 with the same
characters available in X00-20?

Writing an Arabic terminal emulator is pretty easy if you already have the 
ASMO characters loaded, the only thing that needs to be added is an extra 
check on every character received, and additional processing for Arabic words.

>:    - modification/writing of an editor to manipulate Arabic characters.

I am very much interested in algorithms for manipulating Arabic characters.
Are there books on the subject?

>Salam for everyone.

Salam back.


Rami Zureick                                Email:      zureick@utasys.uta.edu
University of Texas at Arlington            Phone:      (817) 273-3666
Academic Computing Services                 Fax:        (817) 794-5796
Davis Hall, Room B66                        
Arlington, TX 76019-0318                    Disclaimer: I represent myself
Xref: sparky soc.culture.arabic:4297 alt.wanted.moslem.gay:113
From: varvel@plains.NoDak.edu (Andrew Varvel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,alt.wanted.moslem.gay
Subject: Re: haha
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:17:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.Bw82Lx.EFI
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1992Oct15.190702.1044@netcom.com> rdc@netcom.com (MR. COMMUNIST) 
writes:                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Mr. Communist, otherwise known as
Roger David Carasso
Rachel Dafni Christy
employees of Herbalife
the guy who created alt.wanted.moslem.gay

He'll probably change his name yet again, thus evading the kill file.

So, here's a comment about all those he has offended (i.e., everybody who's
ever seen his posts).

What's the difference between rdc and a skunk?

There are skid marks in front of the skunk.

Andrew Varvel
From: hermi@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: The Ishbillia (Seville) Expo
Date: 13 Oct 1992 09:24:00 -0400
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: function.mps.ohio-state.edu

From: clarinews@clarinet.com (GILES TREMLETT)
Subject: Spain celebrates 500 years since Columbus' journey
Keywords: international, history, human interest, non-usa government,
	government, special interest
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 16:03:33 PDT
Slugword: spain-columbus


	MADRID (UPI) -- Spain celebrated the 500th anniversary of Christopher
Columbus's arrival in the Americas on Monday with a self-congratulatory
closure to Seville's Expo 92 World Fair.
	``The Expo has shown the power of Spain,'' King Juan Carlos said at
the closing ceremony. ``Five hundred years after that great adventure
Spain has found itself.''
	Prime Minister Felipe Gonzalez said ``the challenges of 1992 have
shown that Spain can assume its role in the international community.''
	This year also has seen Spain host succesful Olympic Games in
Barcelona, while Madrid has been European Culture Capital.
	The end of Expo leaves the capital of the poor southern region of
Andalucia with a mixture of gains and problems. Expo has given it a new
high-speed train to Madrid, eight new bridges across the river
Guadalquivir, 215 acres of recovered land close to the city center and
several new theatres.
	But the city is left with the problem of what to do with the La
Cartuja island site currently occupied by 95 pavilions representing
countries and regions from around the world.
	Many of the pavilions are to be bulldozed in the coming months while
some have been sold on to companies or institutions. The city council
has said it wants to turn part of La Cartuja into a leisure park and
part into a high-technology industrial and research park.
	Doubts also exist over the future of some of the installations. The
brand new Teatro de La Maestranza, Seville's first opera house, has been
unable to secure a place for itself as a permanent fixture on the
European opera circuit and may be turned into a cinema.
	Expo 92 opened its doors to the public on April 20 this year with
workmen still putting the finishing touches to many of the pavilions and
worries about whether it could attract enough visitors.
	The original target of 36 million visitors has been surpassed and by
Sunday more than 42 million people had passed through the gates,
according to an Expo '92 spokesman.
	That period has also seen visits from 70 heads of state, some 40
members of royal families and more than 200 ministers from around the
world. But there are still concerns about the Expo 92 accounts, which
have yet to be made public, though El Pais newspaper has reported a
possible 60 million dollar surplus.
	By late Monday vast queues had formed at the La Cartuja gates as tens
of thousands of 'Sevillanos' tried to get in for the closing events.
Expo was due to close with an enourmous fireworks display over the Lake
of Spain and an all-night party.
From: ashamam@oak.math.ucla.edu (Asher Shamam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Forged Posting
Summary: Someone broke into my account
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:26:03 GMT
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department

Recently, there were some (possible several) offensive posts to this group
from my account.  

My account was BROKEN into, several of my files were deleted, and these
messages were posted.  I have reported this to the system support staff 
here at UCLA Math and they are looking into it.

Asher Shamam
From: blais@ut-emx.uucp (Donald Blais)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Library classification
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:49:36 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas

In article <1afs2iINNegu@pollux.usc.edu> aabdalla@pollux.usc.edu (Ahmed Abd-Allah) writes:
>
>      Revelation                      Reason
>           |                          /     \
>           |                        /         \ 
>         Qur'an    Esoteric Knowledge      Rational, Empirical Knowledge
>                                              /     \
>                                            /         \
>                                        Hikma        Kalam
>                                                     /    \
>                                                   /        \
>                                             Mu'tazelism    Ash'arism

Several library classifications are in use today throughout the world.
Libraries in the United States classify books according to one of two
systems; Dewey Decimal or Library of Congress.  Each of these systems
was influenced by earlier European systems and it is not unlikely that
the former systems were themselves influenced by those used in the
Arab/Islamic empire.  What are the standardized library classification
systems in use in traditional Muslim libraries?  Is there one system
that is universally recognized among Muslims?  How is the `ilm of the
natural world organized in the traditional systems?

-- 
Donald E. Blais             Internet: blais@utexas.edu
Computation Center          Bitnet:   blais@utxvms
University of Texas         UUCP:     uunet!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!blais
Austin, TX 78712            Phone:    +1 512-471-6387 +1 512-471-3241 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: ashamam@oak.math.ucla.edu (Asher Shamam)
Subject: haha
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 01:11:35 GMT

Q :what's the difference between a palestinean and a bucket of
camel shit ?

A : the bucket

Xref: sparky soc.culture.arabic:4262 soc.culture.lebanon:4359
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Tuesday, 13 Oct 1992 16:05:57 EST
From: <CED14304@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Marcel khalife in Toronto

Hi:
For those who are in the Toronto area
Marcel Khalife will be at Convacation Hall, University of Toronto
Kings Circle.  Tickets are $35, $50, $70.  For more information
send me mail or call at nights at (416) 444-3870.

Omar
From: smmat@ukc.ac.uk (S.M.M.Al-Taher)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Poetry Request
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:28:59 GMT
Reply-To: smmat@ukc.ac.uk (S.M.M.Al-Taher)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

In article <nabeel.718487350@oracle.sce.carleton.ca> nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan) writes:
>ashraf@sce.carleton.ca (Ashraf Sharif Mahmoud) writes:
>
>>As for the writing rules, I have a suggestion. Why don't we adopt the 
>>ARABTEX rules. I think most (some) already know this version of writing.
>>Another advantage is that you can easily obtain a really nice postcript 
>>printed arabic text if you have an acess to ARABTEX.   
>
>Why do not show us how easy it is (I mean to adopt those rules)?
>

For those of you interested, here is an extract from the ArabTex document which
comes with the package. The whole document is rather long, but will be happy to
mail it to anyone requesting it, just ask!
I could not find the ftp site where this package is available, I ftp-ed it a long
time ago, and lost the address. If someone out there knows please post or mail me.
Hope this helps.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What is ArabTeX? 
================ 

ArabTeX is a package extending the capabilities of TeX/LaTeX to generate 
the arabic writing from an ASCII transliteration for texts in several 
languages using the arabic script. 

It consists of a TeX macro package and an arabic font in several sizes,         
presently only available in the Naskhi style. ArabTeX will run with Plain 
TeX and also with LaTeX; other additions to TeX have not been tried. 

ArabTeX is primarily intended for generating the arabic writing, but the 
scientific transcription can be also easily generated. For other languages 
using the arabic script limited support is available. 


Standard arabic and persian characters:
---------------------------------------

b  bah  | d  dal   | .s ssad  | f  fah  | h  hah | '  hamza
t  tah  | _d dhal  | .d ddad  | q  qaf  | w  waw | N  tanween
_t thah | r  rah   | .t ttah  | k  kaf  | y  yah | Y  alif maqsoura
^g geem | z  zay   | .z tthah | l  lam  | g  gaf | _A alif maqsoura
.h hhah | s  seen  | `  `ain  | m  meem | p  pah | T  tah marbouta
_h khah | ^s sheen | .g ghain | n  noon | v  vah | W  waw (see below)

Additional characters generally available:
------------------------------------------

c       hhah with hamza
^c      gim with three dots (below)
,c      khah with three dots (above)
^z      zay with three dots (above)
~n      kaf with three dots

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sami
--
| Sami M AL-Taher                |                                 | 
| Electronic Engineering Labs.   |                                 |
| University of Kent,            | E-mail: smmat@ukc.ac.uk         |
| Canterbury, Kent, UK.          | Tel: + 44 227 769303            |
From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: PAL-NET
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:11:46 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <23722@optima.cs.arizona.edu> bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken) writes:
>In article <11257@crackers.clearpoint.com> martillo@nero.clearpoint.com (Joachim Martillo) writes:
>
>>I received the following question via e-mail.
>>
>>Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1992 21:13 EDT
>>From: John Sununu <RENGLE@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu>
>>Subject: Pal-Net
>
>...
>Say, Joachim, is that *the* John Sununu (who is of course of 
>Lebanese descent)?  (Did anyone else notice this famous
>name?) I haven't heard what he has done since he left
>the White House, except that he was playing Perot in helping
>Bush prepare for the debates last week.

Are you kidding?  Who doesn't know who John Sununu is?
I think he has been one of the panelists on CNN's Crossfire.

Its funny that the person identifying himself as Sununu would
write to such a racist person as Martillo with such an inquiry.
It must have been a practical joke or something.

Anisa

	"Every Muslim's duty entails struggling for positive
	social change.  If we pay taxes in the U.S., then we
	are required to strive toward the establishment of
	policies that will allocate our tax dollars to purposes
	consistent with Islamic values."
					Salem al-Marayati

Xref: sparky soc.culture.arabic:4178 soc.culture.iranian:8752
From: jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Is SEX work or pleasure (joke)
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:16:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: LC

In article <1992Oct8.124001.17065@digi.lonestar.org> msardar@digi.lonestar.org (Mohammed Tariq Sardar) writes:
>A reporter is doing a survey to find out whether SEX is WORK or PLEASURE.
>
>Reporter to an ARAB:
>Reporter:   Sir, Is sex work or pleasure
>Arab:	    It's pleaure.
>Arab:	    YOU SEE IF IT WAS WORK I WOULD HAVE GOT SOME INDIAN or PAKISTANI
>	    TO DO THIS FOR ME.

I've heard of indian men taking the place of Gulf Sheikhs.  Many many
stories my indian friends in the US had told me about their 
friends or relative's experience in Saudia/Kuwait/Qatar and
especially Bahrain.

This is very common in all rich societies , not necessarily only the arabic.

jle
From: ahmad@ra.cs.umb.edu (Ahmad Hashem)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Reason vs. Morals
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:38:24 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

In article <1992Oct12.023022.3712@trl.oz.au> a.Faris@trl.oz.au writes:
>this is where I disagree with you totally that Islam takes into account 
>[more] of the human nature than the other religions. This fact is borne 
>about and evident in some of the Islamic laws such as:
>
>1. not allowed to consume alcoholic beverages, while lots of MUslims drink
>while hiding it.

If a law prohibits killing and some people do it while hiding it, this is 
hardly an argument that the law is against the human nature.

As to consuming alcoholic beverages, it is difficult to show how alcohol is 
a need of the human nature that Islam should have accommodated.  On 
the contrary, just consider the medical and social problems it causes 
to Western societies.

>2. Women must adhere to certain dress codes, while men don't.

Again, it is difficult to show how this disagrees with our human nature.
Even in America, acceptable/lawful dress codes differ between men and women.

>3. You cannnot critise your religious laws. My understanding such actions are
>punshable by death.
>4. If your are born unto Islam, you cannot convert to any other religion if
>you are not happy with its teachings.

Well, you are mistaken in both points.  Quran makes it clear that
"Let there be no compulsion in matters of religion : truth stands out
clear from error." (2:256)

>As for this "Idealistic reasoning", are you telling me that every time you see
>a woman you get sexually aroused?. This more or less indicates that you
>possibly do not have control over your sexual behaviour that is brought about 
>from religious customs that does not permit you to see women like the other 
>religions do.

One wonders why you changed Othman's sentence completely and stated it this
way.  What Othman said was (as quoted in your msg, BTW):
"We just cannot pretend that a man will not be sexually aroused when he sees
SOME PARTS of a woman's body" [my emphasis].  I think this is VERY
different from saying that "every time a man sees a woman he gets sexually
aroused."  I see no need to comment any further on your reply to something
that was never stated.

Best, Ahmad
From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: haha
Date: 16 Oct 92 06:41:13 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <23825@optima.cs.arizona.edu> bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken) writes:

	[racist garbage deleted]

>Why did you post something that you knew would be deeply offensive
>and inflamatory?

Better yet, where are all the moral Arab voices whom, not long ago,
said that any criticism of fellow Arabs, such as of the one thread
on Kuwait, should be removed from this newsgroup?

Perhaps it is good to recognize such racists who do not have anything
of interest or value to add to this newsgroup and probably society
itself.

Anisa
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000)
Subject: HELP MUSLIMS; PAY NOTHING.
Organization: LC
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 03:18:43 GMT


SOMEONE ASKED ME TO POST THIS FOR HIM.  


Your Signature = $6,000,000 per month for islamic education. You pay $0.


Alsalamo Alaikom,

A muslim group named "Muslim Education Foundation" or MEF has
a contract with the phone company MCI.  The contract says:

For every muslim that joins MCI via MEF, MCI will contribute 5% of
the total bill to the Muslim Education Foundation which funds
muslim schools around the USA.  If you refer someone, they'll give
you 20% discount.

I thought you'd be interested in carrying this out in your area.

I think, if someone is already an MCI, he can convert to AT&T,
then back to MCI via MEF.  

This way you can help our muslim children without having to pay
a penny out of your pocket.  Say your AT&T is $100/mo,
you send $100 check to AT&T.  But if it was to MCI (which is cheaper)
you'll send in $100 to MCI, and MCI gives 5% to muslim schools.

MEF calculated that if the average muslim in the US converts to MCI,
then the muslim schools will be receiving $6,000,000 per month.
Yes, six million a month ==> 72 milllion a year.   I think the 
our children deserve the 72 million/year instead of AT&T.


Here is a list of benifits:

-MCI quality long distance service.
-An additional 20% Discount on Frends & Family.
-$9 Certificate for long distance usage.
-No change in how you use your phone.
-MCI will pay to switch you back to your old carrier if wished after 30 days.
-The best of all, Allah's Blessing for every time you use your phone,
 inshallah.


For more info, please call:

	Tel (407) 333-9779
	    (407) 333-9954

You can call them, they'll send you the info.


Wassalamo Alaikom.
From: martillo@nero.clearpoint.com (Joachim Martillo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: PAL-NET
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:29:30 GMT
Organization: United Federation of Planets

I received the following question via e-mail.

Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1992 21:13 EDT
From: John Sununu <RENGLE@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu>
Subject: Pal-Net
To: martillo@nero.clearpoint.com
X-Vms-To: IN%"martillo@nero.clearpoint.com"
X-Vms-Cc: RENGLE

Hello,..
I was wondering if you knew the internet address for
Pal-Net,.. the Palestine Users group/Discussion group?

Bob
Thanks



-- 
Joachim Carlo Santos Martillo Ajami

The article represents noone's opinions other than the author's.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: kshammou@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Khaled J Shammout)
Subject: Re: haha
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:28:04 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.011135.8830@math.ucla.edu> ashamam@oak.math.ucla.edu (Ash
er Shamam) writes:
>Q :what's the difference between a palestinean and a bucket of
>camel shit ?
>
>A : the bucket
>

This riddle is purely ANTI-SEMETIC, ANTI-SEMETIC, and ANTI-SEMETIC.

Wa Salam
------------------
Khaled J Shammout