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From: "rob salerno" <rob.salerno@canrem.com>
Subject: emplant
Reply-To: "rob salerno" <rob.salerno@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 15 Nov 92 11:28:04 EST

Okay.. I've gotten a bit farther.  Sybil still doesn't work and its very
temperamental.  Sometimes it comes up (calibration that is) and
sometimes it doesn't.  Sometimes it just gurus when I turn the machine
off.  Boy scary effects on my monitor when this happens.  JIM any
advice.

Anyway back to emplant.  I ran it under 1.3.  Disable any other MMU
program you may be running such as setcpu or cpu.  They don't get along.
 AS well get disable programs like mergemem.  Once you've done this run
the rsvermem34  (I think thats how it is spelt).  It will either say
reserving memory rebooting and when it comes back it will say patch for
multitasking.  Or will say path for multitasking right off.  From there
run emplant and set up the paramaters.  I've read a note from JIM some
where that say you must have the video driver in 32 bit memory.

From there run it.  My computer says initializing emulator at this point
and then comes back to the configuration screen.

Thats farther then I got before.  I decided to RUN snoopDOS behind this
to see whats going on.  At the point that its initialzing the emulator
snoopdos shows an error opening a file called PRAM.config.  This file
is nowhere to be found.  I believe its the equivilence to CMOS on a PC.

JIM is this file missing from the distribution diskette.  If so how do I
create it.

ROB

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From: jeremym@ravel.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz)
Subject: Re: Who has a working EMPLANT?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:55:34 GMT

I think he's talking about the POWER LED, but I could be wrong.
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From: jdrew@cryo.rain.com (Jim Drew)
Subject: Re: EMPLANT - anyone got it running ?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.26 beta (Oct 19 1992)
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:32:03 PDT
Organization: Cryogenic Software - Portland, OR


In <92327.005103DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu>, <DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> In article <jdrew.0jrk@cryo.rain.com>, jdrew@cryo.rain.com (Jim Drew) says:
> 
> >Not true.  The machines that we used consisted of A500's, A1000's, &
> >A2000's (no A3000's here, hence our A3000 dilema).  We used the VXL-30
> >mainly as well as the Hurricane and MegaMidget racer.
> 
> No '040? Anyone want to take a guess at the odds of Emplant working on
> an '040? :-)
> 
 
Well, it works on the A4000..that is an 040 machine.  :-)


Jim Drew - Vice President, Utilities Unlimited, Inc.
           1641 McCulloch Blvd. Suite #25-124
           Lake Havasu City, AZ  86403
           (602) 680-9004     (602) 680-9006 FAX    (602) 453-9767 BBS
From: keith@cacofonix.cs.uoregon.edu (Keith Steiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Here's how to FTP to/from Wuarchive.
Date: 22 Nov 92 22:34:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Nov22.223447.1080
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.

In article <70043@cup.portal.com> Don_-_Hirschfeld@cup.portal.com writes:
>Any way to read a txt file while at the ftp prompt without d/l-ing the
>readme file?

This I discovered quite by accident.

ftp> get StrangeFile.readme -

will print the file directly to the screen in an unsupervised way.

ftp> get StrangeFile.readme |less

will feed the file through "less" and feed it to your screen.

What follows the pipe (|) must not contain any spaces, which limits the
usefulness somewhat, but it's still very handy.

	Keith Steiger
	"The man page for ftp is almost completely useless...."
From: ph111-dz@violet.berkeley.edu (david mou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Emplant software - suggestion
Date: 18 Nov 1992 01:08:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu

I've been following c.s.a.e. for some times now, especially since the 
initial announcement of Emplant by Jim D.  I am very eager to order one, 
as soon as it is in working order.  But that seems to be still some times
ahead.  Lately I have this idea in my head that just won't go away, and
it may sound silly, but ...

- what is the likelihood of UU to go public with some of it's routines
(especially buggy ones) and see if the problem can be solved on the net?

IMHHHO, that means UU may no longer control it's software.  But in case of 
great time pressure, this seems a logical follow-up to sending out the
bug-ridden prototypes.  In one sense this may get the primates off your 
back and make them plow the field for you....... :)

silly suggestion?


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From: Lance_Gibb@a68k.denver.CO.US (Lance Gibb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Who has a working EMPLANT?
Distribution: world
Date: 22 Nov 92 15:25:40 MST
Organization: The Arvada 68K BBS- Westminster, CO

 NR> In article <69713@cup.portal.com> jharris@cup.portal.com (John D
 NR> Harris) writes:
>** Working Emplant **
>U.U. new release of the Emplant software, available as NEWEMP.LHA on their
>BBS, appears to be operational!  The emulator runs on an A2000 with A2630
>accelerator.  It runs slower in 16 color mode than it does in B&W, but it
is
>really great to see.  HD and Amiga devices are still not supported, but it
>runs, in color, multitasks, and hasn't crashed yet!


I'm thrilled to see someone finally got this thing working - now I've got
some more questions for you:
 
1)What Macintosh Applications have you run?  Have you been able to run
any of the more significant programs like PageMaker, Illustrator, Word,
etc..?
 -I realize that the most recent incarnations of these utilities require
hard 
  drives, but some of the older versions will work from floppies.

2)Have you done any printing from Emplant?  does it offer anything like
Amax's ImageWriter emulation?  Is there an appletalk port on board that I
could plug a laserwriter into?

3)Does it support sound at all?

4)Tell us exactly what you have done with Emplant.  With all the
limitations I read about I can't see much use for this board at this stage
of development.

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From: blanke@bigboy (Mark Blanke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: EMPLANT Update and comments!!
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:31:58 GMT
Organization: Temple University

I just uploaded a new version of the EMPLANT software to wuarchive.wustl.edu
128.252.135.4.   This includes (emplant, rsrvmem37, and rsrvmem34).  This 
according to Joe will help fix some of the bugs, but will not help wqwho
need to use lowmap.  He is working on a fix that he will hope to haveon hi
board by tomorrow.

I would also like to say a few words about everything.  I know we are having 
a hard time, and I am as frustrated as a lot of people, but have patience.
It's hard being a developer. From experience it's always the little problems
that seem to take the longest to fix.  And I have seen worse products than this.

One thing I always loved about the Amiga, and which I believe is the only reason
it exists today, is the people who own them.  It's this community which has 
been supportive,  but the comments I have seen in the last few days are
disgusting.  There is talk about quick get your money back, and suing, and
this and that and it makes me want to *well you get the picture*.

You've got at least a 30 day warranty.  Use it.  If you don't think it will
ever work. return it, but there is a reason you bought that board in the 
first place.  Hold on for more than a couple days and stop complaining, and see
if some of the bugs have been worked out.  If nothing happens within a week from now.  Then I guess you have more reason to complain.  

It half our faults its in this mess.  We heard of this new product(Okay Jim shouldn't of said anything so soon), and we all wanted one.  Some of us preordered
as early as June, and were upset when it didn't come out on time.  We have
bitched and moaned and threatened and forced UUI to release the board early.
Now everyone is complaining about it not working and being released too soon.

I AM SICK OF LISTENING TO THE COMPLAINING.  

Just to prove to you how upset this has made me.  If you can remember
who says what around here, you will know that I never flame anyone.


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From: langston@memstvx1.memst.edu (Mark C. Langston)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: CSA Derringer:  where?
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:28:27 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

  Are there any mail-order houses stocking the CSA MMR Derringer, and if so,
what are they offering it for?

  Also, anyone know how good this thing works?

thanks,

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From: neil@celia.UUCP (Neil Richmond)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Who has a working EMPLANT?
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:51:24 GMT
Reply-To: celia!neil@usc.edu (Neil Richmond)
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood

In article <69713@cup.portal.com> jharris@cup.portal.com (John D Harris) writes:
>** Working Emplant **
>U.U. new release of the Emplant software, available as NEWEMP.LHA on their
>BBS, appears to be operational!  The emulator runs on an A2000 with A2630
>accelerator.  It runs slower in 16 color mode than it does in B&W, but it is
>really great to see.  HD and Amiga devices are still not supported, but it
>runs, in color, multitasks, and hasn't crashed yet!

YEAH!!!! Now for some questions:

1) Are you running your emulation off a Sybil or Mac disk drive?
2) What Version of the Mac you running 6 or 7?
3) What is your minimum configuration?
4) How slow? Mac slow or slower?
5) Are you using 1.3 or 2.0?


neil




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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:51:03 EST
From: <DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: EMPLANT - anyone got it running ?

In article <jdrew.0jrk@cryo.rain.com>, jdrew@cryo.rain.com (Jim Drew) says:

>Not true.  The machines that we used consisted of A500's, A1000's, &
>A2000's (no A3000's here, hence our A3000 dilema).  We used the VXL-30
>mainly as well as the Hurricane and MegaMidget racer.

No '040? Anyone want to take a guess at the odds of Emplant working on
an '040? :-)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: wwarner@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Art Warner)
Subject: Re: Who has a working EMPLANT?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 08:38:51 GMT

In article <jdrew.0jjb@cryo.rain.com> jdrew@cryo.rain.com (Jim Drew) writes:

>I don't understand what the %$#!# is going on here???? 
> 
>We have not had anymore than 100 phone calls concerning the functionally
>of EMPLANT. The majority of calls received were from people who have
>early A3000's with the Super KickStarts.  This (besides the random
>interrupt problem, which we fixed) are the only problems that I have even
>heard of...  We have many HAPPY people out there...so what gives???
Can you say, "NO hard drive support"?
I don't consider a computer to be very useable without a hard drive.
(IMHO)

>These comments about "lay off for a week" are appreciated, however, I
>don't understand the reasoning behind them...as the problems are on
>select machines that probably make up 1/4% of existing Amigas
                                       ^^^^
Jim, I think A3000's + machines with 2.0 or Seagate drives 
make up *LOTS* more than 1/4% of Amigas out there.
Maybe you meant 25% which is 1/4 of all Amigas.

BTW: Jim, I noticed that the video driver on the latest Emplant11.lha
     had the same byte size as the original driver.  There is an updated
     one on UU's BBS with a different byte size from them both.
     Which is the newest?  I did a "hex-read" on all three files and saw
     "Revision 1.1 ....October 92" in *ALL* three of them.

BTW2: Good to have you back, Jim.  8)
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From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Subject: Re: The Emplant Ordeal.
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:33:23 GMT

In article <tpang.722171342@sfu.ca> tpang@fraser.sfu.ca (Tsui Ting Debbie Pang) writes:

>I have not seen one at $250 list yet. I know there are $250 mail-order
>price. But those are EC030, and no MMU. Emplant works 'better' with MMU.
>That's what Jim Drew said. I said if Emplant worked at all, it more
>or less required an MMU. Again, I could be wrong, along being 'dumb',
>'childish', etc.

Actually, the Derringer from CSA lists for $250.  

>Also, we did not imagine that it runs on 68000, Jim made us believe it.

True enough. But his expectations were a bit skewed, and perhaps so were
those of others.

P.S. Don't be so hard on yourself. Everyone needs to vent their frustration
     now and again :).
From: ps296au@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Steven Cobb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Who has a working EMPLANT?
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:53:32 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <17NOV199209462168@summa.tamu.edu> cpw8034@summa.tamu.edu (Alan Wen (409) 693-2924) writes:
>In article <5aD+r*pL0@video1.han.de>, achim@video1.han.de  (Joachim Gothe) writes...
>>Who has a "working" EMPLANT ???????
>> 
>My advice take your money back and run.
>
>alan

My advice is to be a bit more proactive.  No it does not work yet.
No it should not have shipped yet.  But, it will work before long
(at least on systems with > 68000).  If you all bitch and moan and
demand you money back, you will _never_ see Emplant work.

Every one sit back and take a deep breath (or a valium).


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From: jdrew@cryo.rain.com (Jim Drew)
Subject: Re: Will Emplant work on a FusionForty accelerator ?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.26 beta (Oct 19 1992)
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:35:32 PDT
Organization: Cryogenic Software - Portland, OR


In <1992Nov22.152251.18345@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>, alexr@capella.EETECH.McGill.CA (Alex Rousseau) writes:
> Hello, Jim Drew.
> 
> When do you think that you will be able to have someone beta test
> Emplant on a FusionForty 28MHz accel. (running from an
> Amiga 2000 + GVP series II controller + Quantum 120Mb drive +
> 20Mb of memory) ?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Alex.
We have customers with RCS' 040, Commodore's (A3000T/A4000), PP&S' and
they work fine.  There is a problem with CSA's board.  We can't figure
out what it is, however, there is a problem with early KS39 which was
running on CSA 040, so hopefully that was the only problem which should
now be corrected.
 
So, I see no reason why it would not work on your system.  We were *very*
careful when we designed the hardware and software to support the minimum
MMU block size (4K) that the 040 has.


Jim Drew - Vice President, Utilities Unlimited, Inc.
           1641 McCulloch Blvd. Suite #25-124
           Lake Havasu City, AZ  86403
           (602) 680-9004     (602) 680-9006 FAX    (602) 453-9767 BBS
From: jharris@cup.portal.com (John D Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: EMPLANT Basic functionality... please verify.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 20:05:01 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <15NOV199202472900@summa.tamu.edu>

I have seen Emplant get as far as displaying, "Welcome to Macintosh".  But
it has always crashed before the boot process is finished.  This was on an
A2000 with A2630 accelerator and OS 2.04.  I can verify that before it
crashed, I was able to Amiga-M switch to other screens.  It does appear to
multitask for a few seconds anyway.

It seems unlikely that UU would go to full production on the board when
there are so many problems with the unit.  How could they know the hardware
is complete?  It's possible they were pressured into shipping early by legal
threats.  It's *possible* that they were unaware of the problems, but that
sounds really unlikely.  Here's my opinion of what's going on.

UU obviously charged the credit cards early, probably to fund the actual
production run of the units.

The software is unfinished, but I beleive that it is further along than the
version shipped with the unit.  I can't imagine committing a board design
with this many problems, and yet the software must not work perfectly or we
would have it.  I think UU has software close to operational, but with some
known problems still.  Instead of releasing buggy software, they chose to
release crippled software.  No one can write a review, because no one can
get it to work.  Most of us can't get it to do anything!  Are they trying to
tell us it works on all the machines they tested it on, but no one else in
the world can get it to work?!?  I don't think so!  They've crippled it so
it doesn't even come close to running, and are trying to stall people as
long as they can, so they can finish the product.  I think Jim's mouth has
been running ahead of his code, and he is desparately trying to catch up.
At least I hope that's close to what's going on, because the alternative is
that the product is so finicky that changing minor aspects of the computer
causes the product to not run at all.  And that UU's testing procedures are
so poor that they didn't find out Emplant doesn't run on virtually every
Amiga computer configuration made -- Except their's.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: I HAVE EMPLANT!
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 07:05:59 GMT

In article <Ivan_Pintori.02l6@mas.sublink.org> Ivan_Pintori@mas.sublink.org (Ivan Pintori) writes:

[ ]
>
>I propose a toast to UU and Jim in particular!

I don't know about a toast, but he certainly deserves an apology from a lot
of people. My only connection with the Amiga world is a CDTV, but I've always
found the Amiga interesting. At present I'm using a MacIIci, MacIIvx a NeXT
a 486 and a GS. These have, of course been acquired over time. The NeXT is
great but I got caught with the NeXT Dimension "issue" (if any Amiga owner
wants to see something that is really annoying, try spending $10k on a
system only to discover that the promised, advertised, demoed, etc...ND
board is delivered without hardware compression as promised and hence
of little use. Now that would be ok were NeXt to complete the project, but
this seems unlikely. Moreover the price of the board never changed!).                         
 
The A4000 would appear to be the perfect higher end system to do what I 
wanted to do with the NeXT Cube.( The Mac would cost too much, does not
multitask, etc...but is very good for certain things). Emplant would simplify
moving stuff back and forth between the MacIIci at work and an A4000 at
home. What I keep seeing is that the Emplant board requires a II, IIx, IIcx
ROM. Will a IIci one do? Also, is Ethertalk supported, in the sense that
if one had an Ethernet card in the Amiga the Emplant board would realize it!
 
When I enquired about Emplant earlier this year, Jim Drew faxed off a lot of
stuff (fast, I might add). The Ethernet issue wasn't addressed, and I'm
sure he's got other priorities at this time!>
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From: Ivan_Pintori@mas.sublink.org (Ivan Pintori)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Emplant..Arriving soon!
Date: 16 Nov 92 03:24:59 GMT
Organization: Mangazone Advanced Services - ++39-6-7029438

In a message dated Sat 14 Nov 92  4:52, James_hastings-Trew@telepro.uucp (j
wrote:

 JT> The question now is, do you still believe him?

Excuse me james.... let me state a couple of facts:

1) I'm your costumer (I own and use DLG)
2) Costumers are always right.

Now cames my statement: Just shut up.  IMO you got this whole deal far too
pushy.  If I were Jim I'll just sue you.  Now instead of wasting time on
saying this non-sense, why don't you keep on working on that DLG.library
since I need its autodocs, and as long as you guys don't release it I'm
worst than in deep shit.  Let's not talk about deadlines. :^)


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From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Subject: Re: Golden Gate 486!!
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:54:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.154327.7986@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:

>Before we get too excited, let's not forget one thing: those boards
>use Cyrix's 486SLC, not Intel's 486DX.  A 486SLC has a lot of 486 specific 
>commands, but is not comparable to a true 486.  I would say it is an 
>accelerated 386SX at best.

It will do 45 on the Norton Index however, which is reasonable performance
for the price and appreciably better than a 386SX. Inexpensive Cyrix FPU's are
also available.

As for compatibility, I've yet to see any reference to problems elsewhere.
The big question would be the Vortex software support, which traditionally
hasn't been too impressive. The North American service centre claims that it
has been revamped, however.

>PS: BTW, I was reading Amiga Format, and came across an article saying
>    Commodore has released a new 386sx BB.  According to the article, it
>    comes with 2MB of ram, usable by both the BB and the Amiga, and
>    only costs #250.  Is that true?  Is this the same board we have been
>    talking about for months? or is this a new board?  either way,
>    #250 sounds good!  Any hope we can get it for US$400?

This is new to me.