HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ohrd!rdowlati@cs.toronto.edu (Ramin Dowlati)
Subject: Re: Chances of financial aid at Polytechnic University
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 16:27:52 GMT

In article <16850EFE0.MNARAGH1@vm.poly.edu> MNARAGH1@vm.poly.edu writes:
>There are few chances of financial aid in Mechanical Engineering
>Department (Fluid & Thermal area). Contact imediately
>        email sunil@thermal1.poly.edu
>or call 718-260-3810

Is this for graduate studies? And where is Polytech U. anyway?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: tajvar@cwis.unomaha.edu (Hadi Tajvar)
Subject: looking for three friends?!?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 02:39:24 GMT

Greetings,

My friend, Hossein Fakur Rashid, who doesn't have access to USENET is 
looking for his friends

			Bahman DAneshvar TAlebii
			Sohayl GhezelbAsh
			Reza Mohamady.


He also wants to know if there is anybody who was a student at "HonarestAn 
Sanatii Mashad" about four or five years ago.

His phone number is (408) 723-1073 	Hossein Fakur Rashid.
You could also email to "tajvar@cwis.unomaha.edu".

Thanks,
Hadi


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: babak@cpre1.ee.iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: How could we help the victims of Andrew.
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:09:43 GMT

In <1992Sep2.174024.21355@EE.Stanford.EDU> mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:




>sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:

>>I heard the news that there was natural disaster in Florida,...

>bAbA dast-khosh, toe keh dast e "Bush" ro az posht basti!

>    --mack

What do you exactly mean by this statement?!  or just trying to be funny?

---
                          With highest regards,
                               Babak   Sehari.
From: bes@cco.caltech.edu (Behnam Sadeghi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Stop this ....
Date: 29 Aug 92 23:36:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: cco.1992Aug29.233618.1834
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena

In article <1992Aug27.180431.18988@donner.SanDiego.NCR.COM> zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz) writes:
>Let me say something fair.  During Sassanid dynasty, Zorostrian
>clergymen were so powerful
>and so cruel that made life so misrable for Persian people.  ....
>
>zamie

Can you please elaborate on the "cruelty" of the Zoroastrian
clergymen?

Thank you,
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Subject: Re: Lie
Reply-To: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing, San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:06:03 GMT


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Subject: Re: 
Reply-To: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing, San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:26:06 GMT


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: kambizm@ifi.uio.no 
Subject: U.S cynical play in Iraq
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:36:54 GMT
Originator: kambizm@hadd.ifi.uio.no



Republicans who hope to turn around their luck in the comming election, are starting the next cynical scene in the
Middle East. They hope that another victory in Iraq like the desert storm will give Bush the strong image in the
foriegn policy issues. Many reports claim that more than 100000 children have died as a direct result
of the desert storm and the sanctions against Iraq. While Iraqi leader is a dictator, but the cynism appears when the
same person was helped and armed by the same people who call him a Hitler now. While U.S. appear to follow a strong
hand policy in Iraq, they appear to be forgiving when it comes to their proteges' misdemeanors around the world.
U.N appears more and more as a mean at the mercy of the 5 permanent members of the security council. Iranian
government is against the partitioning of Iraq and has warned Saddam not to play in the hands of Americans. They
asked Eisenhover once that why help a son of bitch like Somoza, he answered that Somoza is maybe a son of bitch
but he is our son of a bitch. Saddam appears to be no more their son of a bitch. Another american official at
white house once was asked why have U.S. armed Saddam and he answered : As long as we can bomb them why not sell
them!

                                                              Kambiz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: ali@utrcv1 (ALI BABA)
Subject: Mojahedin khalq
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: United Technologies Research Center
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:39:00 GMT

There is a good article in New York Times today which maybe intersting to
read. Even though it's an addvertisement but there are some good fact from
U.S. department of state fact sheet on these group. 
 ***************************************************************         
 *  What we call the ills of life is due to our own ill-deeds  *
 *  And many of them are forgiven by god. This life is a stage *
 *  of convenience; Live true and resist all wrong, but learn  *
 *  the best way to do it so. On god rely; else no protector   *
 *  will you find. God revelation comes as a guide and mercy:  *
 *  It shows the straight way the way of god all-wise.         *
 *************************************************************** 

Internet = Ali@utrc.utc.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mkarimna@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Melissa Karimnamazi)
Subject: Re: When Was Your First Time?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:39:03 GMT


I am new to the news group.  I have only been on the network for about three
weeks.  It has been iteresting.  Keep it up!

Mellissa
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: saleham@cauchy.mcs.clarkson.edu (Anwar M. Saleh)
Subject: Joke (was Re: Mac--toi ...)
Reply-To: saleham@cauchy.mcs.clarkson.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:51:54 GMT

kambizm@fidibus.uio.no writes:
>
>
>                                   Kambiz
>
> Arabs do not get dishearted it is only an Iranian proverb:
>
> Na shire shotor, Na didare Arab.
> Meaning:
> I do not want camel milk for the sole purpose of avoiding
> to see an Arab.

  This is just a joke:
  
  An Iranian with American citizenship, made up his mind to 
  vote for President Bush. And when he was asked why? his
  answer was:
  
  Because Bush is a vice(wise) president. :-)
  
  Anwar Saleh


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Subject: Re: International Copyright Laws
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 07:01:22 GMT
Organization: Intellectual Property

In article <1460@newsserver.cs.uwindsor.ca> tarokh@server.uwindsor.ca (TAROKH VAHID             ) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.152350.20633@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>, paran_p@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Pirouz Parang) writes:
>> 
>> 	I have heard that Iran has not signed International copyright agreements and thus, Iranian publishers are not protected or restricted by them.
>> Does anyone know more about this?
>> 

[ discussion about the book 'Roots' deleted ]

>in my opinion copyright law and asking money for a book reprint is
>ridiculous. People should be able to access scientific literature
>at affordable price. Nowadays some authors and publishers are worse
>than Mafia in ripping off the people. 

I would disagree with above opinion in general, while I agree with part of
it.  Publishers ask for a lot of money and that's not fair.  BTW, the authors
these days don't have much to say.  The cost of suing is so high that an
author can hardly afford to hire an attorney.  That's why the publishers buy
the rights and they protect the copyrightable material directly.

A work that is published for money ought to be protected as an intellectual
property because the author spent many years to produce it for the purpose of
generating an income.  The idea, even publishing scientific literature, is not
ridiculous at all.  As you mentione the key is in the fairness of the price of
the final product.

Although I as the author of two software products have no good repour with 
any publisher, nevertheless, I would not compare them with Mafia.  I guess 
we are used to refer to Mafia whenever we encounter an unjust act.  In this 
case, the publisher is not doing or acting illegally.  There is the element
greed for sure, but show me one industry that is not suffering from this
greedy attitude.

Regards,
Hooshyar F. Naraghi
bavafa@netcom.com
(415) 324-1055
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From: CT.MMJ@forsythe.stanford.edu (Michelle Jahanpour)
Subject: Divorce Persian Style?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:12:54 GMT

I wrote to this newsgroup some time ago about marital problems I was
having with my Persian spouse.  Thank you, to all who responded with
anecdotes, advice and support.

I have a question (it's sincere) for any Persians out there who may
be able to shed some light on my situation.  In March, I moved out
of our house in hopes of relieving some of the pressure of our
marriage.  For a couple of months, this arrangement worked.  Then,
in May, I was served divorce papers!  I was so surprised.  I asked
my husband why he wanted to take such drastic measures, since I
never intended (which was communicated to him from the beginning)
to get divorced.  I had hoped that we could patch things up,
after a cooling off period, in the marriage.  His response to the me
was "Michelle, in our culture, if you are not living with your wife,
you are divorced.  I do not want to live without you (not under the
same roof) without being divorced."  Is this true?  Have I
"committed" the ultimate blunder by moving out of the house?  Is
this more than just a feeling of rejection on his part?

Thanks for any advice -- I love the Persian culture, people and
traditions, *and* I don't want to lose my husband.  All the best,
Michelle Jahanpour
From: navab@tasmanie.inria.fr (Nassir Navab)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Attention all Arabs
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:43:01 GMT
Reply-To: zzhang@sophia.inria.fr
Organization: Inria Sophia Antipolis

In article <1992Aug25.134659.2296@ulrik.uio.no>, kambizm@fidibus.uio.no writes:
|> 
|> I do not know why Arabs and some nonArabs are reacting
|> to us being pride over our cultural and historical
|> contributions. It is not out of blind nationalism ...
|> If we
|> say some Arab jokes, take them only as jokes and pay
|> us back on the same term. There is also this fact of
|> occupation and cultural invasion by Arabs, which many
|> have forgotten. It did give rise to many uprisings and
|> bad feelings among Iranians. Arabs did not behave as
|> emanicipators as some want it as such but Bani Omaye
|> (Omayids?)dynasty and abbasaids did much oppression
|> in Iran. But one may say that the bad memories of the
|> past should not destry the future.
|> 
|> 
|> Arab dar byaban Malakh mikhorad
|>            Sage Esfahan Abe Yakh mikhorad.
|> 
|> 
|> A joke:
|> Ye rooz chanta irani dashtand ash mipokhtand ke ye
|> arab gorosne oona ro mibine. Arabe foran ye soosmar
|> (marmoolak) peyda mikone midove too kaseye ash mindaze
|> va mige "Ana Sharik".
|> 
|>                                       Kambiz

I am sorry, but your poem and your joke are not only not funny 
but also they are full of racism(or as you call it "blind nationalism").

No one can justify an attack to its neighboring countries telling them that 
we come "to free you" or "to show you the way to the heaven or hell". But all
these stories go back to many centuries ago. Even though its interesting to talk
about it, do not forget that now we are living in another word. 

If you do not like Arabs as much as you like Iranians, 
then you begin to be a "blind nationalist". 

Nassir
From: sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: How could we help the victims of Andrew.
Date: 3 Sep 92 01:52:06 GMT
Organization: UB


Now that you guys insist so much , I have set up a toll free number for you
to send your money to me.
All major credit cards are accepted. Have your credit cards ready to avoid
any long distance charge.
Checks also accepted, Make them payable to "UN of Ramins centered at
buffalo,NY"

Call Toll Free 1-800-send-cash
that's 1-800-send-cash
Toll Free 24 hrs 1-800-send-cash

Hurry Babak Grab the phone ... 
Minmum of $30.00
We are so flexible that we have assigne no Maximum for these transaction.
Just give us your credit card number and we'll take care of it.
Oh, I gotta go , I think I hear the phone  ...
I haven't even finished typing yet 

......
....
..
.

*****************************************************************************
* "We hate it when our friends become successfull. And if we could destroy  *
*  them , you bet your life we would ....   "   The Mozzerman               *
*****************************************************************************
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: alireza@eng.umd.edu (Alireza Karimzadeh-Rad)
Subject: Re: Mack---and Racial slurs (NOT)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 04:40:56 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <17gkvbINNfs5@shape.mps.ohio-state.edu> hermi@shape.mps.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi) writes:
>Monsieur Mack still lives in the middle ages.  If I live with my inferioity
>complex, he still lives with the accumulated centuries of hatred towards
>the world and people of Islam.  As for my weak English I will sew my mother
>for only speaking arabic and send my protest for the U.N. that the Arabic 
>language and Arabic culture should be banned in all Arabic states, that 
>English, the language of the new sophisticated colonizer in the middle east 
>should be spoken... so that we we come to this beloved country of ours
>we do not have to speak childish English or with a foreign accent. After all
>it is the language of the white and pure, the language of the people with
>blue pure blood, Banni Al-ssfar as our grand fathers called them, the people
>of the yellowish skin...
>
>Lotfi al-Arabi 
>

When you claimed to speak three languages, you
should have mentioned that you happen to suck at two of them. Also I'm
truely sorry that some people on SCI made you feel that they want the
Arabic language and culture banned in all Arabic states. I think you
misunderstood. What they really want is for the Arabic culture to be
confined to the Arabic states. 

I hope that clears up any misunderstandings. 

Blessed art thou the peace maker. 


Payandeh Baad Iran
Alireza (the Peacemaker) :>
From: baze@carson.u.washington.edu (Behzad Khamneian)
Subject: Re: ****Top 25 reasons *not* to read SCI****
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:41:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.205701.9303@ucunix.san.uc.edu> minhaszt@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Zafar T Minhas) writes:
>>
>>    o Zafar Minhas gets the honor of top non-Iranian poster and the
>>      only one in the top 25 at 12th place.
>
>Oh I'm so honored, now do I get a prize for this?

  No!!  You should quit while you're ahead and stop posting.  Most of us here
  don't like you or your postings.  I only read your postings to laugh at your
  simple-minded blatherings.
 
>
>[stuff deleted again]
>
>zafar
>

Thank you  :)

Behzad







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From: babak@cpre1.ee.iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: How could we help the victims of Andrew.
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:47:18 GMT

In <1992Sep3.170839.12312@EE.Stanford.EDU> mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:


>nakheyr ahmad AghA, bAbak is the same old bAbak. vali az hAjit kheyli
>hesAb meebareh. So when talking to me, havAye dahanesho dAreh.  :-)

>    --mack

What have you been smoking lately, that you are hallucinating again?  If you
need Vaseline for members of your family, just let me know! -:)

                   With a small jar for now
                        Babak  Sehari.
From: ahmad@lime.uucp (Ahmad Esmaeili)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: How could we help the victims of Andrew.
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:52:19 GMT
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies

In article <babak.715464583@vlsi1> babak@cpre1.ee.iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>In <1992Sep2.174024.21355@EE.Stanford.EDU> mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:
>>sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>
>>>I heard the news that there was natural disaster in Florida,...
>
>>bAbA dast-khosh, toe keh dast e "Bush" ro az posht basti!
>
>>    --mack
>
>What do you exactly mean by this statement?!  or just trying to be funny?
>                               Babak   Sehari.




A kinder and gentler Babak, I like that. AghA Babak, before you would not
grant a second chance, what happened?. Is it also an election year on
the SCI that I am not aware of?


-Ahmad AghA


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: kambizm@fidibus.uio.no 
Subject: Re: Mac--toi .....
Reply-To: kambizm@fidibus.uio.no 
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:43:56 GMT


>Mack toi qui est ignorant,
>Je parle trois langues qu'est ce que tu en dit ?

>You poor little american you doesn't have a history and probably cannot
>locate North Dakota on the map, Faris or bilad Faris is what is known now 
>as Iran. There will come the time when soon (insha Allah) our flags will
>be raised high in Paris and we will crash this agonizing culture of  yours
>after all the east is waking up. The Muslim Draggon has awaikened and soon
>will take back Andalucia and submit Rome to the Rule of Islam. Until then 
>enjoy and have your respite. "Likulli Ajalin Kitab" May be you should try 
>a dictionary or as one of your friends what this last statement means.
>Capito!

Americans maybe this or that, but they are certainly not poor and
little as they have screwed the whole world. And I think their 
general education in average is much better than ours! I think
also that you are dreaming very much Mr. Harmi (are you an Arab!).
If we can manage our countries it shall suffice. By the way, 
why are you people so militant. You should try to win the hearts
of people and not threaten them by this or that Draggon.
It is more like an inferiority complex and not religious missionary.

                                  Kambiz

Arabs do not get dishearted it is only an Iranian proverb:

Na shire shotor, Na didare Arab.
Meaning:
I do not want camel milk for the sole purpose of avoiding
to see an Arab.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Subject: Re: Japanese discuss Iran-U.S. relations in Tehran
Keywords: Iran, Japan, USA
Reply-To: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:58:39 GMT

From previously:
****
[....]
	Tehran radio said the Japanese delegation also discussed with
Velayati conditions among the pro-Iranian Shi'ites in southern Iraq,
attacked several times since March 1991 by troops loyal to President
Saddam Hussein.
	Velayati said Iran wants Iraq's territorial integrity to remain
intact and did not agree with views expressed in some international
circles, and among some Persian Gulf states, favoring a breakup of Iraq
into Kurdish, Sunni and Shi'ite regions.
****

In light of these developments, has anyone paid any attention to:

1) The decision in June by Congress to allocate $40 million in covert
"aid" to "undermine Saddam Hussein". This was appropriated by the
Committee on Intelligence. One wonders how the money is to be spent.

2) The meeting recently in Tehran between Saudi officials and the leader
of the rebel Iraqi group in Iran. This meeting was presumably related to
the developing "no-fly" zone in south Iraq.

Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: About arab invasion of Bilad Faris...
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 21:49:40 GMT

saleham@cauchy.mcs.clarkson.edu writes:

>>>When I kiss your lips, I feel the rolling thunder to my fingertips.
>  Ven              libs                     tunder        fingertibs
>
>>>And all the while my head is in a spin. Deep within, I'm in love.
>          ze  vile                  sbin. Deeb vizin,         lofe
>
>>>You're my everything...                       --Santa Esmeralda
>            efryting

What's your point?

>  Persian: d or z for th
>           v for w or o(as in one)

Speak for yourself.

>  Arabic : b for p
>           f for v

Like here.

>  Anvar Saleh

    --mack

--
When I kiss your lips, I feel the rolling thunder to my fingertips.
And all the while my head is in a spin. Deep within, I'm in love.
You're my everything...                       --Santa Esmeralda
From: jodar@aludra.usc.edu (Nicholas Jodar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Republican Convention
Date: 1 Sep 1992 23:01:04 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu
Summary: Hmmmm....

In article <1992Sep1.183022.29269@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com> ali@utrcv1 (ALI BABA) writes:

>Dear vahid;
>
>First of all I'm Iranian-American Or American-Iranian which ever you prefer
>to call me. 

And I'm muslim....

>Secondly one should realize what the constitution was intend to
>mean when it seperate religion and government.

[deletion]
>...the first Amendment to the constitution was prompted
>because "the people feared one sect might obtain a preeminence, or two
>combine together, and establish a religion to which they would compel
>others to conform"

Islam solves such a problem with 'no compulsion in religion'....

>The second purpose of the first Amendment was the very opposite from what is
>being made of it today. 

Strange, but you do not say what the 'second purpose' was.  
This may simply be a mistake in syntax....

>Today the separation of church and state in America
>is used to silence the church. When Christians, jews, or muslims speak out
>on issues, the hue and cry from humanist state and media is that
>Christians, and all religions, are prohibited from speaking since there is
>a separation of church and state. 

This is the major problem with seperating the State from the
Church -- the State has no moral obligations to fulfill.  Some 
may find it hard to swallow in those words, but it's true.

The American system, while borrowing much from the Islamic form
of government, does not accept the totality which is responsible
for Islam's success.  That is why the system in this country is 
failing.  I find it both sad and typical that other countries 
see democracy as the answer, ignoring the sad state of the U.S.
Believe it or not, they are surprised when the same afflictions 
found here infest their own country.

Even more heart-wrenching, however, is the destruction meted out 
to those who choose to practice Islam piecemeal.  This is like
trying to build a car out of gas pedals....

-AQ

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