HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: BRANDT_JOBST/HP1900_01@HPLOMG.HPL.HP.COM
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Recumbent for the Alps
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:38:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: hplomg.9204062038.AA10137

Don Hermes writes:

> Jobst on a recumbant ? On Smokes ? Climbing the Alps ? In Oakleys ?
> I see three possibilities here:
>
>     1. Someone put LSD in Jobst's coffee.
>     2. Somoene forged Jobst's posting.
>     3. Jobst is funning us and his smileie key is broken.

  How about four possibilities?

      4. That this like the giant fungus (largest living thing on earth)
         and Richard Nixon running for president were announced on the
         the same (first) day of this month.

For more on this subject, watch this space in about a year.  Smileys, by
the way, are never used with such reports.  Ask Orson Wells.

jobst_brandt@hplabs.hp.com
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From: narchamb@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Nicholas D Archambeault)
Subject: Geometry
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:57:35 GMT


Hey folks!

I have a question for you all.  I'm shopping for a new MTB and have heard
alot about different frame geometries.  Some manufacturers advertise a
"sloping top tube" as a selling point, or say that their frames have a
"quick" geometry.  What does all this mean?  And what characteristics about
the geometry of a frame produce what results on the trail?

I have an inexpensive bike (Huffy Mt.Storm) which I use for riding to class.
Now I'm looking for a good no-nonsense MTB to do some "hill-bashing" after
hours.

Any explanations or suggestions would be most appreciated.


Nick


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I'm not quite sure whose opinions these are; I *think* they're mine...

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From: ezellj@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Jean Ezell)
Subject: Re: Oklahoma Bike Law (Danger to Cyclists, READ it Les E.)
Keywords: bike law legislation wrong side of road
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:47:23 GMT

saj@b15.b15.ingr.com (Steve Jernigan) writes:

>In the current issue of Cycling USA, a sidebar ad was included that discussed
>a law that is currently under consideration in the state of Oklahoma that
>would impact cyclists in a negative way.  This law seeks to change the
>legal proper side of the road that cyclists should use.  Instead of using
>the 'right' side of the road, as does normal traffic, a cyclist would be
>required to ride on the 'left' side of the road.  

I seem to recall that when I was growing up in northern Louisiana (early
60s), I was told that I was _supposed_ to ride on the left side because
it was safer.  What goes around comes around, I guess.

>This law would put cyclists in considerable danger through mis-guided action
>of the state legislature of Oklahoma.  Through lack of experience, ignorance,
>etc, they may think they are doing the right thing, but we need to let them
>know otherwise.

There's always the pessimistic interpretation that they are deliberately
making cycling more dangerous to discourage it.
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From: dittrich@sal-sun80.usc.edu (Matt Dittrich)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: QR seat posts ... thieves' paradise
Date: 13 Apr 1992 19:11:43 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun80.usc.edu

In article <1992Apr9.172839.845@b3.ingr.com> andrew@b3.ingr.com (Andrew Stephens) writes:

[stuff about QR seat posts deleted]
>
>
>There is a lock available to keep those meanies away from your happy 
>days -- I saw it in Performance or Nashbar, cant remember which. It 
>was a tiny addition to your quick QR making it lockable. If anyone 
>sees it, let us know!!!

It's called "Loc-A-Wheel."  It's intended for use on automobile bike carriers
which require the removal of the front wheel.  Performance sells it in that
part of their catalog (which you can get by calling 1-800-PBS-BIKE).  I used
one to prevent the theft of my front wheel on my commuting (sorry) MTB, but 
lost the keys when I moved out of my old apt.  ANYWAY, I found that it would
only lock if you were able to tighten down that QR lever REALLY hard.  Maybe
it was just my skewer that caused the problem.  But if your lever for your 
seat post has a thick rubber cover (mine does), it won't fit through the 
shackle of the lock.  Anyway, if you order it and find it doesn't fit once
you get it, you can return it, no hassle.

Disclaimer:  No association with Performance other than satisfied customer.
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From: jyk50@quts.ccc.amdahl.com (  242  J Kretschmann III)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Multiple Free Laps
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:18:16 GMT
Reply-To: jyk50@QUTS.ccc.amdahl.com

I maybe confused about this new free lap rule but it sounds like you
are allowed any number of free laps no matter what the race promoter
says.  For instance, I was in a crit last weekend and the race promoter
said there were no (as in zero) free laps.  At the time I wasn't aware of
the free lap rule.  Was this promoter violating the free lap rule?  Even
though he said no free laps, could we still have taken some and not have
been in violation?
-John
From: kevin@ssc.space.umn.edu (kevin)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: New Chain Help...
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:44:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.1992Apr16.204455.8228
Organization: Shepherd Labs
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2

What's all this crazy lube talk just wax the damn thing.  When it starts
to groan again wax it again.  Either use name-brand wax or simply parafin
with a little silicon lube for good measure.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: pcbk1@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (bryan.s.katz)
Subject: Re: Saddle advice sought
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 10:16:38 GMT

> >Another alternative would be getting one of the stiff leather saddles like the
> >San Marcos Regal or the Sella Italia Leader. I believe that these take
> >a while to wear in but are very comfortable when they're worn in.
> 
> I've been using a Flite saddle for the past 3 weeks (~600 miles) and
> it's the most comfortable I've ever tried.  

I didn't have a choice of saddles.  My wife bought me a Sella Italia 
TurboMatic.  To me, it seemed too gimmicky, but to her - I told her it was
just what I wanted.

After the first 500 miles, I'd say that it's turned out great.  Like riding 
on a living room couch.  

I also noticed in Velo news that it's being used by a couple of pro teams, 
too.  I was surprised to see that.  A couple of them are using the Flite, too.

My only question now is how long the "shock absorbing" pad on the turbomatic
will last.  Even the springs on my living room couch are wearing out,
and I don't ride it anywhere close to 4000 mi/year.....

b.katz

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From: moore@cs.utah.edu (Tim Moore)
Subject: Re: TDF on FOX Network LIVE!
In-reply-to: tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu's message of Sun, 5 Apr 1992 16:26:43 GMT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Date: 6 Apr 92 07:35:16

In article <1992Apr5.162643.26989@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel) writes:
   mike@pyrdc.UUCP (Mike Whitman) writes:
   >In the latest Velo-News there is a news story that FOX will show the 
   >TDF live! All stages from start to finish. Looks like some late night /
   >early mornings for me in July.
   I beleive that was an April fools joke.  I bought into it at first but when theymentioned giving Bart Simpson dolls to the stage winners I got suspicious....
   -Terry

The ads for the VeloNews 20th Anniversary Commemorative Dinner Plate
and seratonin performance enhancers are the tip-off. Too bad.

--
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"Wind in my hair - Shifting and drifting - Mechanical music - Adrenaline surge"
	- Rush
From: brian@galaxy.nsc.com (Brian Chan x5621)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: '92 TREK 7000 Mtn. Bike
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:00:54 GMT
Organization: National Semiconductor, Santa Clara

does anyone have any comments (good or bad) about the '92 trek 7000 mountain
bike?  it's an aluminum frame with cro-moly forks.  has schimano deore dx
components.  


any commments would really be appreciated!


thanks,  

-brian
From: mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Mackintosh)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: CRUNCH Comer.---Tech. Problem
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:57:13 GMT
Reply-To: mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Mackintosh)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.bicycles, sl3vx@cc.usu.edu writes:
>        The Crunch comer. is so dumb that the guy on the bike is in his Small
>Chain ring while drafting---NOT

I think this is also the case in the movie "Breaking Away" while Dave
Stohler is drafting the truck.

Maybe truck drafting is an apropriate activity for consumers of "Crunch"
bars.

David Mackintosh
From: lynnef@gadget.LABS.TEK.COM (Lynne Fitzsimmons)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Bicycle rental in Monterey, CA
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:56:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Research Laboratory, Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton OR


I will be in Monterey in early May, and have a day to kill.  Are there
bike stores that rent reasonably decent road bikes?  And does anyone
have suggestions for rides (20 miles and up...)?
				Thanks much,
--
Lynne Fitzsimmons		lynnef@crl.labs.tek.com

"On the contrary, I have created a subroutine specifically
for you, a program within a program" - Data
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From: ad0834@csc.albany.edu (Andy Dickinson)
Subject: Re: Sleeping Toes
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
	<AD0834.92Apr8122912@eve.albany.edu> <1992Apr9.024332.8931@slc.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:31:34

In article <1992Apr9.024332.8931@slc.com> marcs@slc.com (Marc San Soucie) writes:

   Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Path: sarah!rpi!usc!wupost!uunet!psgrain!m2xenix!servio!marcs
   From: marcs@slc.com (Marc San Soucie)
   Organization: Servio Corp, Beaverton Oregon, US
   References: <1992Apr6.152933.25163@den.mmc.com> <AD0834.92Apr8122912@eve.albany.edu>
   Distribution: usa
   Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 02:43:32 GMT
   Lines: 16

   Andy Dickinson (ad0834@csc.albany.edu) writes:

   > On a simillar but more embarrasing note, has anyone ever had certain
   > _other_ parts of their male anatomy below-the-waist fall asleep on
   > long rides?  This has always bothered me.... I have nice padded
   > cycling shorts and a gel seat, but still have this problem... anyone
   > else ever experienced this?

   It happens. Usually moving slightly forward or backward on the saddle or
   tilting the hips to change the contact points will fix it. If it's chronic,
   you may want to tilt your seat further forward or backward so that your
   natural position on the seat is different.

       Marc San Soucie
       Portland, Oregon
       marcs@slc.com

Seat position... Ok... sounds reasonable.  I'll definitely give that a
try.  

Man... I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one with that problem.  :-)

It was quite frightening the first time it happened.... I thought I
might have caused some serious damage or something!  I hopped off the
bike immediately and kind of jumped around a lot... that helped,
temporarily...  It turns out no damage was done and everything is
still functioning!  (I thought you'd all just really like to know
that... )

Hey... after that "Break Wind like a Pro" posting I figure anything's
kosher!

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From: freshair@iastate.edu (James W Gregory)
Subject: Re: Vegetarian seeks biking shoes
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:07:18 GMT

In <1992Apr9.022854.8661@slc.com> marcs@slc.com (Marc San Soucie) writes:

>Andy Dickinson (ad0834@csc.albany.edu) writes:

>> 	Ok... weird message title, but basically it describes my
>> question:  Does anyone know of anyone that makes 100% synthetic
>> cycling shoes?  It seems like almost all the shoes I've seen have at
>> least leather uppers or trim... anyone have any leads on where to find
>> non-leather shoes?

>Is it okay to wear shoes made from the leather of critters that died of 
>natural causes?

Is it okay to wear shoes made from the skins of humans that died of
natural causes?

(BTW, all of the Avia shoes in the new Bike Nashbar catalog are
described as being made of synthetic leather.  They also cost a good
deal less, on average, than the leather shoes made by Look, Time, etc.
Hopes this helps, Andy....)

-Jim (freshair@iastate.edu)
 Fresh Aire Delivery Services
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From: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no (Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Bicycling rising in popularity in U.S.
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:47:54 GMT
Reply-To: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no (Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes)
Organization: University of Trondheim, NORWAY

Thus spoke the keyboard of Torsten Lif:
>
>According to a recent notice in a local newspaper, Swedes are buying
>more bikes too. They thought it was a combination of the mild winter
>and the current recession (even a small reduction of car sales can mean
>a huge incerase for bikes). There could be a parallel to 1979 when an
>extremely early and warm spring combined with an out-drawn strike among
>public-transport workers to bring Stockholmers cycling by the
>thousands.

It seems like this goes for the Norwegians too. During the last years the
number of sold cars has gone down and the number of sold bikes has
increased. Most of the bikes which is sold on the market is imported from
Taiwan and are very cheep bikes compared to good quality bikes of
well-known brands. This year the goverment are limiting the import of
Taiwan-bikes to 70.000 bikes.
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From: rmelvil@hughes.hacgate.UUCP (Richard Melville)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Commuting on a Bicycle
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:51:39 GMT
Organization: Hughes Aircraft of Canada Limited, Calgary, AB
In-reply-to: ari@world.std.com's message of 5 Apr 92 10:25:27 GMT

In article <BM8CyG.7CG@world.std.com> ari@world.std.com (Ari I Halberstadt) writes:

>   I also sweat like mad. Especially on humid Boston summer days. A company
>   I contracted with for about 6 months provided a shower. It took me a while
>   to discover the shower, so before that I brought a towel and a change of clothes
>   and strong deoderant and showered before leaving home, but all that wasn't
               ^^^^^^^^^
>   as fool proof as a shower after getting to work.

Do people still use conventional deoderant ?  I use a long life deoderant,
(Lavalin).  You shower at night, apply it (cream), and wash it off in the
morning.  I get about three weeks per application, your mileage may vary.
It allows you to sweat freely, but kills odor causing bacteria.  I can
run or bike to work, cool down and change, no shower required.

--
----------------
Richard Melville
Hughes Spatial Data Systems Division
"Get a job you love and you'll never work another day in your life." - me
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From: kevin@diasonx.UUCP (Kevin Harms)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.autos.driving,ca.driving,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Kill a Biker, Go to Jail.  NOT!!!
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:57:20 GMT
Reply-To: kevin@diasonx.UUCP (Kevin Harms)
Distribution: na
Organization: Diasonics Inc. -- Milpitas, California

In article <BLsCou.223@world.std.com> kenny@world.std.com (Kenneth R Crudup) writes:
>In article <1992Mar27.053058.14788@informix.com> aland@informix.com
>(Colonel Panic) says:
>>There was a case here that would confirm your imagination. 
>		  ^^^^
>I love how people will say stuff like "here", with no qualifiers, but there's
>no hint to location (that can be immediately discerned) in either name,
>organization, .signature, or message.
>
>Where ya at?

Well, I didn't see the original post, but after seeing a later one which
said something about a woman driving a 4x4 and reaching into the back
seat to grab a tape I remembered this story.  It happened around 1981
here in California, I believe somewhere in the Bay Area (San Francisco
Bay Area, that is).  I remember reading about this story because I
was preparing for a bike trip down the California coast at the time.
As I remember it, a woman was driving along in her 4x4 (Blazer or
something similar) and reached behind her in the back seat to get
a tape to play.  She veered towards the shoulder striking 4 bicyclists
in succession, killing all four.  The bicyclists had been riding in
single file on the shoulder.

That's all I can remember.  I never heard what the driver was charged
with or what happened to her.

Also, notice that this guy (Colonel Panic?) is from Informix; Informix
is located just south of San Francisco.

>
>And a thousand pardons if ya just wanna remain anonymous.
>

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Kevin Harms, {bridge2|cygnet}!diasonx!kevin, kevin@diasonx
"There cannot be a crisis next week.  My schedule is already full.
			  -- Henry Kissinger
From: smithrs@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SMITH  RANDALL SCOTT)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Corrosion problems in Al Bikes (Wuz XXX Schwinn...)
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:00:49 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

First, let me address some miscomprehensions evident in your post (no, this
is not intended as a flame).  Elemental sodium _is_ more reactive than elemental
aluminum.  However, road salt contains sodium ions (Na+), which is what 
elemental sodium likes to become, hence its reactivity.  Elemental aluminum,
on the other hand, rapidly becomes coated with a layer of aluminum oxide, 
which is inert to most corrosion.  (Note:  you can get anything, including
precious metalls like gold and palladium to *corrode* if you do the right
chemistry on them).  Moreover, Aluminum chloride reacts with water (very
nastily) to give aluminum oxide and gaseous hydrochloric acid.  
	The problem you are having is probably *not* related to salt corrosion
although I'd make sure that my bike gets clean after riding it over salted
roads (yum, yum).  What may be happening is an electrostatic degradation of
your bike's frame.  Let me explain myself a little.
	When two different metals directly contact each other (like touching
steel and aluminum together, the oxide layer between them acts as an insulator
and they can build up a electrical potential between them.  This potential is 
usually quite small (on the order of tenths or hundreths of millivolts) but
can result in some novel electrochemistry which may degrade the metal surfaces.
Hence the corrosion you might see.  That's why steel reinforcing rods in 
concrete structures such as bridges _must_ be grounded.  Otherwise road salt,
acting as a conductive solution in water, will rapidly promote their 
aerobic degradation (read: rust).  
	So, in conclusion, make sure that you regularily clean your frame.
Aside from being a good idea for moving parts, it might lead to a longer
frame life.

Randy Smith                          "My ideas are wholly my own"
Dept. of Chemistry
University of Colorado
smithrs@ucsu.colorado.edu



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From: rhh@alice.att.com (r hardin)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: A Nice Word for Huffy
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:02:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.22510
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ



>Let me get this straight:  You rode a Huffy for over 10,000 miles?

Well, not all at once.  It took a year.
Not a single ding in the rims, either.  Spokes all tight.

No flats for that matter, blessed 26x2 tires.

Quite a change from the high tech stuff.

It's really not bad.  You get passed by a lot of snobs.
From: ad0834@csc.albany.edu (Andy Dickinson)
Subject: Re: Vegtarion shoes??  Is that it??
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:33:14

In article <osmXiB2w164w@jksclub.scol.pa.us> nick@jksclub.scol.pa.us (Nick Simpson) writes:
Path: sarah!rpi!gatech!ukma!widener!psuecl!hogbbs!jksclub!nick
   Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
   From: nick@jksclub.scol.pa.us (Nick Simpson)
   Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 17:56:23 EDT
   Organization: The Clubhouse, Bellefonte, PA
   Lines: 2


   Why do you want 100% synthetic shoes??

If I had some, my feet would be more in line with my conscience!

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From: schaffer@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Doug Schaffer)
Subject: Re: Car vs Cycle vs Bike vs Ped--The Main Point
Organization: U. of Calgary Computer Science
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 06:16:52 GMT

>   You don't even need a hill (let alone a good one).  All it takes is
>a half-decent sprint, and you can easily blow a 40 km/h (25 mph) speed
>limit.  If you have a good sprint, you should have no problem going
>faster than 60 km/h.  Around 70 - 75 km/h, pedalling won't help you
>anymore, and _then_ you'll need a hill to go faster.

But boy, a good hill sure helps!!  A friend of mine on his mid line ($300ish)
racing bike has surpassed 100km/h (62.5?mph) (measured with the air of one of
those little bike computers).  He says you get some pretty strange looks from
people as you go past them (the limit on this hill is 90).  'Course, EVERYONE
speeds on this hill.  My girlfriend was riding in a city *bus* that got pulled
over for speeding!

Doug Schaffer, University of Calgary, schaffer@cpsc.ucalgary.ca



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