From: crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM (crispen)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.allmusic
Subject: Zappa, etc. part 2
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:43:55 GMT
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It's later.  I disagree with you, Bloomster, about your evaluation of
"Blooz Nite at the Mafia Club".  If you can trust your own ears and you
have the equivalent of Beale Street to roam around in, you'll quickly
come to the conclusion that some blues is better than other blues (or
at least that you like some blues better than other blues).

I guess I was also advocating baby steps.  For a newbie to the blues
like me, I appreciate some of the more mainstream pop-blues players like
Gary Moore who can open the door to the blues so that, after we get
used to the sound, we can listen in a more educated fashion to the
real masters.  I certainly envy folks who could respond to all the
stuff (e.g.) on Sonia's tape at first hearing.  Hell, I envy somebody
whose first experience of classical music was Beethoven's late piano
sonatas and who fell in love at once.  All I'm saying is that it
ain't me, babe.  It took me a long time to appreciate the "best"
classical music, and I suspect it will take time for me to love the
"best" blues.  All of that is assuming that you guys aren't dumb and
that Gary Moore and SRV aren't the be-all and end-all of the blues.
With uncharacteristic humility, I suspect that my taste needs to be
educated here.
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Leonard Watkins sez:

>I don't want to sound like i'm Gay bashing, but from
>birth we are attracted to the opposite sex, all of nature is this way, birds
>bees, all the animals.

Sorry, Len, I think you've got it wrong for a change.  As our lives
develop we're attracted to something.  In my case, it's little girls
in leather, old men in rubber pants and large aquatic mammals (I watch
Flipper reruns and Jacques Cousteau in a whole different way than
most people ;-).

This sounds weird coming from me, since in practice (e.g., in my former
job in the YMCA) I was just plain homophobic -- probably still am, but
it doesn't come up much in the flight simulator business.  I just can't
accept an argument from nature.  (Later): Richard Lee Dixon speaks
for me in why arguments from nature are suspect.  Here's another:
existence doesn't prove teleology.  Just because things are the way
they are doesn't prove that this is the way they were meant to be.
Or do we live in the best of all possible worlds?

Oh, dear, now I have to turn in my Official Liberal Card.
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Scott Hammer sez:

>I would, however, be grateful if you would quit claiming
>that you have the right to apply _your_ interpretation of Scripture to _me_,
>or to anyone else.

Right on, bro!  I think a man from Mars who was trying to evaluate
the religions of Earth would be well-served by applying the criterion
of how the adherents of these religions behave when they're in a local
majority.
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WRT Sonia's (and others') comments on how life affects art, I had just
decided that I didn't want to go to graduate school, so I got totally
drunk the night before I took the Miller Analogies Test.  I missed one.
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Laura L asks about a log song by PDQ Bach.  Wasn't it "Throw The Yule
Log On Uncle John"?  Oops, Jake already answered that.  And that
wasn't the song we sang.  It was "Good King Kong Looked Out."  I
remember that one now -- it was a bitch!  I've also sung Schickele's
own pirate songs -- not funny, but similarly hard stuff.
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Arrggghhhh -- a Sonia error!  Didn't Horace Silver write "The Preacher"?
Incidentally, I'd sell my soul for a copy/dub of Oliver Nelson's
"Fantabulous" and/or the one before that (ca 1964).  The one reminded
me of the other.  Don't know why.
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In my last post I said I was confused between RMUSIC-L and ALLMUSIC.
My deepest apologies to my fellow ALLMUSICers.  God, have you *read*
that stuff?  Damn.  I mean, damn!
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