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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 92 15:09:40 EDT
From:         HKAPLAN@UDCVAX.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Translation
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From: Srdjan.Cvjetovic@IJS.YU

Thank you for your letter!

> It would be helpful if you would supply the context for ".....a part of the
> new Europe.."  One can supply a direct translation of the words, but the
> meaning you are looking for might be missing without the context.
It is meant purely as a phrase, but its real meaning is meant to be as in the
folowing sentence:

Slovenia and Croatia are now A PART OF THE NEW EUROPE.

Therefore, I am interested in the translation of the phrase within this
context.

Regards,

Srdjan Cvjetovic

Jozef Stefan Institute (K-1)            Telephone: +38-61-159-199
Jamova 39                               Telefax: +38-61-161-029
61111 Ljubljana
Slovenia                                Email: Srdjan.Cvjetovic@ijs.ac.mail.yu

ZAUSTAVITE RAT U HRVATSKOJ!             STOP THE WAR IN CROATIA!
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 92 11:14:34 MST
From:         Roger <CARROLL@SCC.BITNET>
Subject:      Hilton Head
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

My in-laws are leaving at the end of the month to spend to weeks on the
East Coast, flying in to Hilton Head (or is it Hilton Head Beach),
in the Carolinas.  They're going to rent a car and tour the area.
Any "don't miss" things I should tell them about?  How about "good
restaurant" ideas.  Thanks.

                                                  ---roger

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             I wept when I saw the child that had no shoes,
               but, then I realized I was at the beach.

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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 92 16:25:03 EDT
From:         HKAPLAN@UDCVAX.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Florida Keys vacation?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

From the people I've spoken to from south of Miami, the word is don't come to
play.  That your daughter is toting a gun should be enough information.
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From:         "TAPTATOR@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU" <TAPTATOR@IDBSU.BITNET>
Subject:      INFO ON CHARLESTON SOUTH CAROLINA
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

PLEASE SEND ANY INFO ON CHARLESTON ,SOUTH CAROLINA
THANK YOU.
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 92 08:19:24 EDT
From:         HKAPLAN@UDCVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: NEED INFO
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

I wasn't going to respond to the request for a distinction between Hartford
and Missoula because it seemed obvious and I expect that the requestors have
made up their minds and are seeking validation.  But, the simple minded
description of Hartford (or any other place where people live) as a "typical
Eastern city with the usual crime,  etc." really ticked me off.  True, Hartford
is not sterile, but it does have great restaurants and a lovely museum, the
Atheneum.  It is located near Boston, Cambridge, New Haven, all the lobster
you could ever want to eat, the ocean, great fishing, the Berkshires, Maine,
the Green and the White mountains, Mt. Katahdin, and occasional forays into
another Eastern city with etceteras, New York.  And Connecticut, with whatever
problems one may have heard about, is a lovely state.  By the way, Hartford is
not a big city.
   Please don't take this posting as a battle between the merits of Missoula vs
Hartford.  The case for Missoula was well stated and they have their merits,
but are so different that the choice is really about life styles.
                                        Howard
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 92 20:21:53 TUR
From:         Eric Luyten <eluyten@RC.VUB.AC.BE>
Subject:      Re: MAKE A WISH REQUEST
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              a

> Subj:   Please forward this around to your lists.....

Nooo !!!!

> Subj:   CHILDREN'S MAKE A WISH FOUNDATION
>
> Craig Shergold is a seven year old suffering from terminal cancer.

Craig Shergold must be 14 by now. Pops up on USEnet every 6 months too...

Stop it.

Eric.
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Date:         Sun, 6 Sep 92 16:14:56 MDT
From:         "Linda, ext. 2433" <jonesl@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject: Re: net etiquette
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

I also second Roger's comments.  I love to read all the various replys and
I use the delete command frequently.  lkj.

********************************
*Linda K. Jones, Ph.D.         *
*Internet:  Jonesl@hg.uleth.ca *
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 92 16:02:41 EDT
From:         jcklaasmeyer@UALR.EDU
Subject:      Travel from Moscow to Czechoslovakia...
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Does anyone happen to know how much it would cost, and how long it would
take to get from Prague, Czechoslovakia by plane or train?gue) Or

						Corey Klaasmeyer
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 92 15:18:47 EDT
From:         HGOLDSTE@UDCVAX.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Advice needed on trip out West
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you can do the trip you outline from Albuquerque but its
somewhat insane ... in view of the many interesting and beautiful things
closer to albuquerque ... mesa verde, durango area, ouray,
silverton, and the rest of SW Colorado ...

trips where so much of the time is spent driving to sites
where you jump out of a car, shoot a few photos, and drive to
teh next site seem rather pointless ... why do it? to say you were
there?  if you really want to experience a place, stay awhile
and if time is limited then set limited goals.
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 92 09:12:00 MDT
From:         LDENNING@DUCAIR.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Hunter Valley
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Tmne - I believe that there is a vineyard that porduces a wine called
Hunter Valley, however, I don't know where it is.  Looking through some
back issues of The Wine Spectator, there were a number of vineyards
listed.  However, there is no specific indication of where some of them
are and, if there was an indication, I don't know Australia well enough
to be able to tell you if they are in the Hunter Valley area.

Anyway, some of the areas mentioned were:  Leasingham, Hutt Creek;
Michelton, Victoria; Leasingham, Clare Valley; Tarra Warra, Yarra Valley;
and Mitchelton, Goulburn Valley.  May I suggest that you talk with your
local wine merchant.  S/he should have a good idea of where the vineyards
are located.  (as an aside, Tyrell's makes some wonderful!! wine and port.)

Happy Tasting.....................Lloyd Dennington, University of Denver
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 92 14:08:43 PDT
From:         Little Findhorn Farms <ltlfindhorn@IGC.APC.ORG>
Subject:      COSTA RICA
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Thinking of a trip to Costa Rica in late December,
but I've never been.  Any ideas?  Suggestions?
Thanks.
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 92 12:16:14 +1000
From:         tmne@ARCHSCI.ARCH.SU.OZ.AU
Subject:      Hunter Valley
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              14 Sep 92 05:00:34 +0500.
              <9209140201.AA02584@archsci.arch.su.oz.au>


I am going to the Hunter Valley, north of Sydney in New South Wales for
three days over the October long weekend. I realise that a lot (most?)
of the people on this list are Americans, but has anyone got any good
suggestions of places to visit, in particular, any vineyards to
recommend for wine tasting. Alternatively, has anyone drunk some good
wine from the Hunter Valley so we can go and check out the vineyard. ;-)

Thanks in advance,

PS, a small aside about the running commentary about the two Americans
towns. I am finding it very interesting reading about the differences,
etc you can find, please try to keep interesting/ informative/
controversial news  public! :-)

 -- Tmne
_______________________________________________________________________

Tmne Sperling                      Voice: +61-2-692 4031
Key Centre of Design Quality       Fax:   +61-2-692 3031
University of Sydney               Internet: tmne@archsci.arch.su.oz.au
NSW 2006 Australia                 Time: GMT + 10 hours
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From: ednschmi@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au (John Schmidt)
Subject: Re: Hunter Valley
Organization: ITC, Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia
Date: 15 Sep 92 11:48:47 GMT

LDENNING@DUCAIR.BITNET writes:

>Tmne - I believe that there is a vineyard that porduces a wine called
>Hunter Valley, however, I don't know where it is.  Looking through some
>back issues of The Wine Spectator, there were a number of vineyards
>listed.  However, there is no specific indication of where some of them
>are and, if there was an indication, I don't know Australia well enough
>to be able to tell you if they are in the Hunter Valley area.

>Anyway, some of the areas mentioned were:  Leasingham, Hutt Creek;
>Michelton, Victoria; Leasingham, Clare Valley; Tarra Warra, Yarra Valley;
>and Mitchelton, Goulburn Valley.  May I suggest that you talk with your
>local wine merchant.  S/he should have a good idea of where the vineyards
>are located.  (as an aside, Tyrell's makes some wonderful!! wine and port.)

Of the wines and locations you mention, Tyrell's is the only one in the
Hunter Valley. Tyrell's is situated at Pokolbin near Cessnock, north of
Sydney.  Clare is in South Australia, the Yarra and Goulburn Valleys in
Victoria.

You're not wrong about Tyrell's!!

John Schmidt
Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia


>Happy Tasting.....................Lloyd Dennington, University of Denver
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From:         HUNTERJ@DELPHI.COM
Subject:      Help Las Vegas
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Las Vegas.NOTE
Would like to get some info any hotel deals in November for Las Vegas.

Very flexible itinary.



Thanks Jack!



HUNTERJ@DELPHI.COM



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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 92 20:16:53 TUR
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Subject:      MAKE A WISH REQUEST
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Subj:   CHILDREN'S MAKE A WISH FOUNDATION

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I received the following letter from a friend at the John Harland
Company:

Craig Shergold is a seven year old suffering from terminal cancer.
It is his ambition to be included in the Guiness Book of Records for
the largest number of business cards ever collected by one person.
Craig would be grateful if you could send one of your business cards
to the address below.

        Craig Shergold
        c/o Children's Make a Wish Foundation
        32 Perimeter Center East
        Altanta, GA  30346



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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 92 08:37:00 CDT
From:         C20RGG1@NIU.BITNET
Subject:      NEED INFO
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE JOB OPPORTUNITIES IN MISSOULA, MONTANA
AND HARTFORD, CONNECTICUT.  CAN ANYONE SUPPLY INFORMATION ON THOSE
TWO CITIES, ANY INFO THAT WOULD HELP US DECIDE EITHER FOR OR
AGAINST A MOVE?  -- SUCH AS CRIME, POVERTY, CULTURAL ACTIVITY, ETC.

PLEASE REPLY TO C20RGG1@NIU.BITNET.
THANKS
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 92 06:53:46 PDT
From:         Dave Gomberg <GOMBERG@UCSFVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: NEED INFO
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

I assume you are interested in the two cities as places to live, not
visit?  In that case, Money Magazine (I believe) rates cities as
places to live.  Try the library for back issues.   Good luck.
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 92 10:14:28 EDT
From:         rgtaylor@UALR.EDU
Subject:      RE: Disneyworld Fla.
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Elaine,

I have visited Disney World twice.  The archives will have information
from this years trip.  Also, there is a great book called The Unofficial
Guide to Walt Disney World.  Can't remember the author's name, but the
book has lots of really helpful tips!  You can also call 1-800-WDISNEY to
get the Disney tourist information.

We stayed at the Holiday Inn Maingate at 7300 W. Irlo Bronson Drive.
I can recommend it highly.

Ranette
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 92 08:56:45 CST
From:         Joel Eatmon <VAUR0001@SMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: NEED INFO
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

     The only thing I know about small towns in Montana comes from hearing
of the experiences of some friends of mine who moved to the state (sorry, I
can't remember what town) when he was transferred there by the oil corporation
he worked for.  They encountered a great deal of racial prejudice and were
shunned by the townspeople, making their life there rather tense and unpleas-
ant.  Their teenage daughter had an even more difficult time, sufferring the
humiliation of racial slurs and ostracism by the other teens at her school.
It is not my intention to depict the state of Montana as an intolerant or bell-
igerent one, however, someone's description of their impression of the town of
Missoula as "predominantly anglo" caused me to recollect the problems of my
friends and to realize that the ethnic composition of a place is a factor which
might be important for some to consider before moving there.  I agree with the
suggestion to make use of certain reference materials which describe and rate
places to live through statistical, as well as descriptive means.
                                                                  Joel
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 92 09:16:01 GMT
From:         James A Schaefer <JAS@RICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Hilton Head
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

Hilton Head's main attractions are its golf courses and tennis courts.
There are many sea food restaurants, a few Chinese ones, and a
Fud Puckers (add your own fixings hamburger place).

More interesting to me was Savannah, Georgia which is just about 40 minutes
south from Hilton Head.  The Crystal Beer Palace had excellent sandwiches
served with home made potato chips and french fries. There is an excellent
book store in Savannah as well but I can't remember the name.

Charleston, South Carolina about 1 1/2 hours  of H.H. was very interesting
also with excellent sea food.

I did well following a Fodors guide for The South.
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 92 21:05:36 EDT
From:         HKAPLAN@UDCVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Envirotour
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

This is somewhat different from the usual postings, but it is,
nonetheless, quite interesting.


From: Y3111DAA@AWIUNI11.BITNET
Subject: Envirotour Vienna 1992

Please feel free to forward this information:


1st International Conference  -  ENVIROTOUR VIENNA 1992
November 10-12, 1992 - Hotel Penta, Vienna

More than 80 international experts will present strategies
and concepts for reducing the environmental impacts of
tourism:

- The Nature of the Effects in Tourism
- Tourism-Induced Traffic
- Environmentally Sound Tourism Management in Enterprises
- Landscape and Regional Planning
- Certificates for Environmentally Sound Tourism
- Sports and the Environment
- Social Issues
- City Tourism
- Eco-Components in Tourism
- Innovative Concepts and Instruments
- Tourism in Mountainous Regions
- National Parks

For further information please contact:

International Society for Environmental Protection, A-1030
Vienna, Marxergasse 3/20, Tel. +43/1/715 58 78, 715 28 28,
Fax +43/1/715 28 29

internet: Y3111DAA@awiuni11.edvz.univie.ac.at
EARN:     Y3111DAA@awiuni11.bitnet
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 92 07:46:14 EDT
From:         HKAPLAN@UDCVAX.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Moving to California
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

Have you thought of other options?  Someone I know just had their goods
bubble wrapped and shipped by a major moving co. (don't remember name, but
could find out if interested).  What was basically a small household, <3 rms,
was packed, shipped and held until the person called the co. for delivery.
This process took ca. 3 weeks and cost $1500. She spent the three weeks
leisurely driving across the US from DC to Davis.
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Organization: York University
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 92 22:27:44 EDT
From:         DLEIBOLD@YORKVM1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: MAKE A WISH REQUEST

please pass *this* around...

Craig Shergold is alive and well and has enough mail thank you!!!!

pirate hackers are always churning up this bogus story (actually, there
was once a legit appeal many years ago, but is long since done)... people
not in the know about the scam pick up the tale and pass it on, something
like the Internet Worm or Jerusalem B virus... to be clear, the posters
don't always know about the true situation, but it would be helpful to
get down to the root of the problem
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Subject:      australia
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:19:53 +0100
From:         "Nigel Mallett, ISD,
              Radio Free Europe x2723" <MALLETTN@ADMINA.RFERL.ORG>
Subject:      hopelessly gonna get flamed

Hi all, groan,

	I know this is a faq, I know there are archives, but where, I tried
	UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu but could find nothing to do with vnews-l

any ideas, please try to be nice.

Nigel

SYS$LOGIN:NIGEL.SIG
From: gerland@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Jim Gerland - Network Consultant)
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Subject: Re: hopelessly gonna get flamed
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:51:00 GMT
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In article <01GOJIB0PXEW9EDL5V@AdminA.RFERL.Org>, MALLETTN@ADMINA.RFERL.ORG (Nigel Mallett, ISD, writes...
>	I know this is a faq, I know there are archives, but where, I tried
>	UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu but could find nothing to do with vnews-l

There are no archives for this list.  Sorry.

Jim Gerland  - Consultant, Network User Support         University at Buffalo
Academic Services, Computing & Information Technology   Buffalo, NY 14260
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Subject: Re:      Re: hopelessly gonna get flamed
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In article <01GOO0JH7SCY9D5U0K@AdminA.RFERL.Org>,         "Nigel Mallett, ISD, writes...
>maxs out at 1500 groups,,

It's a trivial edit in one of the include files to crank it up past 1500.

Tom O'Toole - ecf_stbo@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu - JHUVMS system programmer 
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> * OLX 2.1 * ease!Trim!eeeaaaassse!trimtrimTRIMeeeeeeeaaaaaasse!trimea
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:46:18 +0100
From:         "Nigel Mallett, ISD,
              Radio Free Europe x2723" <MALLETTN@ADMINA.RFERL.ORG>
Subject:      Re: hopelessly gonna get flamed

Then I guess I just go ahead and ask some dumb  questions,

running 1.41 (anything newer)
on startup server says dropping  ..... list of groups

maxs out at 1500 groups,,

	any newer versions or fixes available, oh jhgjhgj.jhgjgjhg.hgjh.gfhgfh
too lonfg vnews suffers from static allocation problem


Help,

	Nigel
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From: swalter@nyx.cs.du.edu (DreamWeaver)
Subject: Re: Bright idea for using a fax modem
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 14:08:37 GMT

CCD@BROWNVM.BITNET (Clare Durst) writes:

>The latest issue of the Aldus magazine has a neat idea buried in the
>comments about the way the issue is put together (a regular feature).
>Seems that one of their artists, who usually submits pencil sketches
>of the drawings he intends to create and polish in Illustrator or
>whatever, faxed a copy of the pencil sketch not only to them, but to
>HIMSELF, with his fax modem, received it, and read it right into his
>graphics program!   Saved having to trace over the sketch with his
>graphics stylus, etc.

>I'm not a graphics person but it sounds neat to me!

Neither am I ... but I've used the same technique when I needed to get
some base images into computer form, and all I had access to was a hand
scanner (not bad ... but full page scanning means scanning strips and
stitching images together ... not fun).

For the level of graphics I needed ... it worked _great_!

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