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From: mitchell@cbmvax.commodore.com (Fred Mitchell - Product Assurance)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Struggling computer science student needs a free A4000.
Keywords: give money now!
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:58:09 GMT
Reply-To: mitchell@cbmvax.commodore.com (Fred Mitchell - Product Assurance)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

u894776@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (James McCoull) wrote:
>winikoff@muse.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Michael David WINIKOFF) writes:
>
>>Wayne: The Amiga is *not* a games machine - games machines don't need
>>pre-emptive mutitasking operating systems ...
>
>	Werent some of the amigas designers from Williams?  You
>know Defender and all that.  I seem to recall, that the amiga was partially
>designed as a killer games machine.  You sure do need a pre-emptive
>multitasking operating system for good games - makes it easier to run
>decent enemy routines and all that.

The original IBM PC's were intended to be not much more than game
machines. Not even IBM expected the resultant explosion that ensued.
Perhaps they would have paid more serious attention to the design of
the then nascent PCs if they had known. Now the PC's carry a legacy that's
hard to break. My guess is that it'll be another 10 years AT LEAST before
we see the complete demise of MSDOS. IMHO Windows NT and maybe OS/2 are
too much a resource hog to tempt your average hardend MSDOS user at this
time.

And guess which platform has the most games right now? 8-) Now tell me
which is the "Game Machine".

My opinion is my own, period.

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From: s915426@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Leanne Taylor)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: For Sale - FlickerFixer
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:47:47 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.


For Sale - 1 Microway Flicker fixer w/ manual and adaptor for VGA Monitor

Asking Price:	$250.00

The unit is 8 months old, and was previously used on My Phoenix Board.  It is a
2000 style Video card.  Price includes shipping either via courier, or by me
if applicable.

Contact me throgh : s915426@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

	or	Tel. (03) 583 8806
	or 	Fax. (03) 585 1074
	or 	Write Snailmail to

			P.O.Box 188
			Southland Centre
			Vic 3193


Justin

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From: bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: SOLD (Re: For Sale - VXL-30)
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:49:52 +1000
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

In article <1992Sep28.131320.90219@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>, bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:

        THE VXL-30 HAS BEEN SOLD. NO FURTHER OFFERS WILL BE CONSIDERED.

           Bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au  OR  bull@monu1.cc.monash.oz
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From: Eric.Fillisch@f353.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Eric Fillisch)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: Re: Ram Disk Icon
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:03:48 +1000

Hello Greg.

In a message dated 19-Sep-92 23:30:15, you wrote:


GK>     The easiest way would be to get the WB2 upgrade and make the
GK> icon you want for the ram: disk the default system icon.

I got my system orignally with WB2.0 and subsequently upgraded to WB2.04 as I
found that 2.0 has go a few bugs which prevent certain programs from working
properly.  ie Pagestream 2.1 requesters didn't work.

As I said in my origonal message, the icon only applies to the RAM disk.


GK> matter of copying the disk icon that you require to ram: before the

Unfortunately when I tried copying the disk.info file to ram: it did exactly
theat.  Ie copied the disk.info file to the ram.  Great if you want to see the
icon after opening the ram disk.

Thanks for your help anyway but I have allready tried them and they don't seem
to work.


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Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
From: amiga@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Amiga Utilities)
Subject: Re: What is spectrum?  (was Re: ROM switches ...)
Reply-To: amiga@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Amiga Utilities)
Organization: University Of New South Wales (UNSW), Sydney, Australia.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 10:06:20 GMT

In article <10667547.236.717912196@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au> 10667547@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (JIMMY FANG) writes:
>In article <1992Sep28.170257.25738@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> peteru@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU () writes:
>>From: peteru@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
>>Subject: Re: ROM switches ...
>[talking about kickstart multi-switchers for amigas]
>>I have designed and built a switch myself. Worked great for me and cost less
>>than $5 and 15 Minutes of my time. I don't use it anymore because I don't
>>think that 1.3 is worth using.

And then I said:

>>If you are interested in building one of
>>these beasts I'll make the plans available in ~amiga/public/hardware on
>>spectrum.
>
>Is that an ftp site?

I really shouldn't post things like this on the net...
spectrum is the name of a part of the Comp. Sci. & Eng. network here
at the Uni of NSW. I am the account maintainer for the Amiga Utilities
account. Currently we do not accept anonymous FTP. This is unlikely
to change in the future.

>>Anyone else interested? I might even post the stuff here if there is enough
>>interest.
>
>Please post it!

OK, you asked for it, I shall post it. I don't have my original circuit
diagrams on me right now, so I can't give you all of it right now, but
here is the part list.

1 x Socket to hold the ROM. (You don't want machine pinned one, since you
                             will need to bend some pins.)
1 x dual position toggle switch.
1 x 1k resistor
A piece of wire
A soldering iron (yes, it does involve some soldering, but nothing too
                  complicated.)
And obviously a couple of ROMs to switch between.

I will post the specifics on Tuesday or Wednesday, 6th-7th October.


Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
From: peteru@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: Re: ROM switches ...
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:02:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep23.030505.711@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> matthewl@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Matthew Lee) writes:
> I am posting this for a friend who would like to upgrade his ROM version from
> 1.3 to 2.x.
>
> He would like to keep both types of ROM's, and while he knows that there are
> a few ROM switches available, he is not sure which may or may not be the ones
> to look at. He has looked at the Alfa Data and the DKB MultiStartII models,
> and one salesman suggested that the MultiStartII is unreliable as it does
> something very nasty to the memory.
>
> Could anyone who might have upgraded their ROM's and who kept their previous
> versions of their KickStart offer any assistance ?
>
> Any information is much obliged.

I have designed and built a switch myself. Worked great for me and cost less
than $5 and 15 Minutes of my time. I don't use it anymore because I don't
think that 1.3 is worth using. If you are interested in building one of
these beasts I'll make the plans available in ~amiga/public/hardware on
spectrum.

Anyone else interested? I might even post the stuff here if there is enough
interest.

				Peter.


Peter Urbanec				  peteru@hydra.maths.unsw.oz.au
University of New South Wales		s1013734@cs.unsw.oz.au
Sydney, Australia
		The only sin is stupidity  - Machiavelli
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
From: ian@corona.syd.ips.oz.au (Ian Woolf)
Subject: Oz Fish FTP site?
Summary: Is there an Oz Fish FTP site?
Originator: ian@corona.syd.ips.oz.au
Organization: IPS Radio and Space Services.  Sydney, Australia.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:51:49 GMT

Archie.au doesn't mirror the Fred Fish collection from the US, are there
any Australian ftp sites that do?
Please send any replies to ian@ips.oz.au.



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From: bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: History of the Amiga
Date: 5 Oct 92 09:48:50 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

schuller@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Wayne Schuller) writes:
>
>>>>Wayne: The Amiga is *not* a games machine - games machines don't need
>>>>pre-emptive mutitasking operating systems ...
>
>>>     Werent some of the amigas designers from Williams?  You
>>>know Defender and all that.  I seem to recall, that the amiga was partially
>>>designed as a killer games machine.  You sure do need a pre-emptive
>>>multitasking operating system for good games - makes it easier to run
>>>decent enemy routines and all that.
>
>>Nope. If you're looking at only one program you can use co-operative
>>multitasking.
>
> I think if you do your research as I have, ie: look at some really old comp
> magazines, you will find that the amiga designers began as designing a console.
> Of course in the process of building it it bagan a computer and no console was never released. This was in the early eighties before commodore got hold of the
> project.

        You're wrong about this. Jay Miner, the man who origionally thought of
the Amiga and designed the origional custom chips (Agnes, Paula & Denise)
always planned to build the Amiga as a fully funtional personal computer, the
idea of a "killer games console" was used as a smoke screen to encourage
investment in the then independent company Amiga. A games console was seen
by the investors as a more viable commercial product than a general purpose
personal computer. The idea backfired on Jay for a while and he had to do
some convincing to get the project all the way to the Amiga 1000, which was
then picked up by C= .


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From: winikoff@muse.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Michael David WINIKOFF)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Struggling computer science student needs a free A4000.
Keywords: give money now!
Date: 4 Oct 92 04:44:38 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia

u894776@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (James McCoull) writes:

>winikoff@muse.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Michael David WINIKOFF) writes:

>>Wayne: The Amiga is *not* a games machine - games machines don't need
>>pre-emptive mutitasking operating systems ...

>	Werent some of the amigas designers from Williams?  You
>know Defender and all that.  I seem to recall, that the amiga was partially
>designed as a killer games machine.  You sure do need a pre-emptive
>multitasking operating system for good games - makes it easier to run
>decent enemy routines and all that.

Nope. If you're looking at only one program you can use co-operative 
multitasking.

As another poster pointed out games tend to run on bare metal for speed anyway.

The Amiga's chips can be viewed as games material -- to a certain extent however
they are also important for speeding up mouse cursor and window updating.

Michael
winikoff@muse.cs.mu.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
From: adam@arcadia.mc.phillip.edu.au (Adam Eberbach)
Subject: Re: For Sale - VXL-30
Reply-To: adam@arcadia.mc.phillip.edu.au
Organization: Dept. Maths & Comp, RMIT ( Bundoora )
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 01:04:30 GMT

In article 90219@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au, bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au () writes:
>
>        For Sale:   Microbotics VXL-30 A500-A2000 accelerator board.
>
>        25Mhz 68EC030 (you don't really need the MMU unless you use "Enforcer")
>        16Mhz 68881   (with a 16Mhz clock. I bought the '881 seperately)
>
>        No 32 bit RAM.
>
>        Price $400.00. Not negotiable.
>
>        Reason for sale. I need the money more than I need the '030.

You're selling a good bit of equipment at a more than resonable price, but the MMU
dioes more than just let you use Enforcer. Without the MMU you can't load alternative
kickstarts into 32 bit ram, or many other things. They are much more useful than just 
letting you use Enforcer...

Adam Eberbach

Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
From: aduncan@rhea.trl.OZ.AU (Allan Duncan)
Subject: Re: Emplant advertised in ACAR
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 21:53:58 GMT

From article <djap.718103720@coombs>, by djap@coombs.anu.edu.au (David J. Phillips):
> What's the story with the ad from Ami-Tech in this months
> Australian Commodore and Amiga Review (page 44)....
> ..."EMPLANT Mac & IBM emulator cards
> 	This new card is a complete modular version of last months ACAR
> 	story and is avaiable NOW from AMITECH from 	$699.00"
> 			      ^^^^ this is as in the ad
> This can't be serious can it? I hope they do have such a thing
> but it seems very unlikely......probably just another..."Oh...thats due
> in RSN...we expected it in by the time the ad was printed"
> 
> Anyone seen/talked to the people at Ami-Tech?
> (I might give them a ring)

I imagine that it is a case of the advertiser trying to get the ads
current at the time of the magazine sale, rather than when the ad was
submitted.  You take a projected release date for a product and run with
it - and if the shipping date slips you get all these people saying
"vapourware".  Three months lead time is often the case.
Allan Duncan		ACSnet	 a.duncan@trl.oz
(+613) 253 6708		Internet a.duncan@trl.oz.au
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Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
From: amiga@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Amiga Utilities)
Subject: Multivision De-interlacer
Reply-To: amiga@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Amiga Utilities)
Organization: University Of New South Wales (UNSW), Sydney, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 10:09:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.040910.29332@gbrmpa.gov.au> matt@gbrmpa.gov.au (Matt) writes:
>
>BTW, Phoenix sell the "Multivision De-interlacer" *new* for $310, and it's
>much more superior to the Microway Product or the C= product.

Multivision De-interlacer?? Never heard of it. Specs please :-)
I think I might be in the market (If somebody donates the multisync :-)

	Thanks
From: CS19241727H@LUST.LATROBE.EDU.AU (KOUKOULAS, STEVEN)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: Gimme A4000 specs
Date: 30 Sep 92 03:30:51 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24


Help me,
	Could someone give me some detailed specs for the A4000.
From: Greg.Kerr@p2.f547.n635.z3.fidonet.org (Greg Kerr)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: .LHA ?
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 06:33:13 +1000

Hi Andrew !

In a message of 23-Sep-92 you wrote:

 AJW> From: u9263012@cc.uow.edu.au (Andrew John Walker) Organization:
 AJW> University Of Wollongong

 AJW> 	Does anyone out there know an FTP site with a program for unpacking
 AJW> .LHA archives? I originally thought LHarc would deal with these,
 AJW> however it uses a different extension.

    I don't know where you are but try logging on to an Amiga BBS I haven't seen
one yet that doesn't use lha. The latest evaluation release is 1.38

         --==<< Cheers! Greg >>==--
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Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: winikoff@muse.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Michael David WINIKOFF)
Subject: Re: Struggling computer science student needs a free A4000.
Keywords: give money now!
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 01:59:42 GMT

schuller@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Wayne Schuller) writes:

>I think if you do your research as I have, ie: look at some really old comp
>magazines, you will find that the amiga designers began as designing a console.
>Of course in the process of building it it bagan a computer and no console was never released. This was in the early eighties before commodore got hold of the
>project.

Sure the hardware is suitable for a games machine ... 
The software is more important though -- what's the diference between a 386
running OS/2 a 386 running MS-DOS and a 386 running BSD Unix?

The reason why the Amiga is such a great *computer* isn't the hardware --
it's the system software ...

>Oh yeah, as the original struggling student, I still want my A4000 and if you
>are going to give money to anyone, give it to me!

Dream on ... :-)

Michael
From: eyal@echo.canberra.edu.au (Eyal Lebedinsky)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: For sale: Vortex AToncePlus 80286 emulator for A500
Date: 28 Sep 92 00:30:46 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Info Sci & Eng, University of Canberra, AUSTRALIA

For sale:
Vortex ATonce Plus for Amiga 500
80286 16 Mhz card.

This is the current model that sells for $499.
Used for 1 year, in full working order, with original box/doco/software.

Price: $350 ono. Will COD.

Phone: (06)2572822 (working hours). Ask for Eyal or Mike Taylor.
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: espensk@stud.cs.uit.no (Espen Skoglund)
Subject: Re: Struggling computer science student needs a free A4000.
Keywords: give money now!
Organization: University of Tromsoe
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 11:42:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.185157.12184@lth.se>, e91sg@efd.lth.se (Stefan Gimeson) 
writes:
>In article <9226916.974@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> schuller@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Wayne Schuller) writes:
>>I am struggling compsci student and are looking for generous rich people
>>to send me money to buy an A4000. I would like one because I can play lots
>>of really good games on it, and then I can say "I own an A4000"!
>
>Yeah, that goes for me too. So all you rich people, start sending me money!!!
>
>/Stefan (VERY,VERY,VERY poor student...)
>

Hey! What about me? I'm freezing to death up here in the northern Norway.
Don't you feel sorry for me.

/Espen (EVEN POORER student)
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From: sondhu@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Paul Sondhu)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: PD Postscript Word processor the amiga
Date: 5 Oct 92 02:34:02 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia


Does anyone know of a Public Domain word-processor for the amiga which
can read/write/edit Postscript files.  

Thanks.

Could you please reply by email.


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Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
From: matt@gbrmpa.gov.au (Matt)
Subject: Re: For Sale - FlickerFixer
Organization: Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:09:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.104747.22071@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au> s915426@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Leanne Taylor) writes:
>
>For Sale - 1 Microway Flicker fixer w/ manual and adaptor for VGA Monitor
>
>Asking Price:	$250.00

BTW, Phoenix sell the "Multivision De-interlacer" *new* for $310, and it's
much more superior to the Microway Product or the C= product.

matt.
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
From: djap@coombs.anu.edu.au (David J. Phillips)
Subject: Emplant advertised in ACAR
Keywords: Emplant ACAR
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Distribution: aus
Date:  3 Oct 92 09:15:20 GMT

What's the story with the ad from Ami-Tech in this months
Australian Commodore and Amiga Review (page 44)....
..."EMPLANT Mac & IBM emulator cards
	This new card is a complete modular version of last months ACAR
	story and is avaiable NOW from AMITECH from 	$699.00"
			      ^^^^ this is as in the ad
This can't be serious can it? I hope they do have such a thing
but it seems very unlikely......probably just another..."Oh...thats due
in RSN...we expected it in by the time the ad was printed"

Anyone seen/talked to the people at Ami-Tech?
(I might give them a ring)

Dave.
djap@coombs.anu.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: marnold@cwis.unomaha.edu (Matthew Eldon Arnold)
Subject: Re: Struggling computer science student needs a free A4000.
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:54:35 GMT

espensk@stud.cs.uit.no  writes:
> Hey! What about me? I'm freezing to death up here in the northern Norway.
> Don't you feel sorry for me.
> 
> /Espen (EVEN POORER student)

Oh yeah, since we're in a contest here...

I'm struggling so badly that the bluebook value of the car I drive is less
than the retail value for an A500.

And, on top of that, my A500 (which is now one giant hardware hack) is laying
on the floor in pieces and I'm accessing Internet news using a borrowed
Apple II!  Now top that!

-- 
+--------------+        /\/\                                    ///
| Will program |       //\/\\                                  ///
|   for food   |      //    \\arnold@cwis.unomaha.edu      \\\///
+--------------+      ===============================       \XX/
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
From: s1070422@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (BATMAN (D.Binding))
Subject: help with ftp files from pc to amiga.
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:12:32 GMT

I have been trying to download files from ftp sites, down to pc and then
across using "Dos-2-Dos", but l am having no luck. They all seem to not work
when the amiga files finally get to the amiga. Can someone give me a step by
step blab on how to do it right so l can see what l am doing wrong.
    I am also having trouble with uncompressing these files. (This may be what
l am doing wrong!) Is there a ftp site where archivers are not archived?

Help!!!!
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: 8800529@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: Re: Struggling computer science student needs a free A4000.
Keywords: give money now!
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 00:52:16 GMT

In article <9227914.27173@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> schuller@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Wayne Schuller) writes:


>Oh yeah, as the original struggling student, I still want my A4000 and if you
>are going to give money to anyone, give it to me!

	OK I guess it's about time. I will give you guys the money.
Now who was it that need it the most and why.

	George
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
From: 8800529@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: Re: Ram Disk Icon
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:01:33 GMT

>
>GK> matter of copying the disk icon that you require to ram: before the
>
>Unfortunately when I tried copying the disk.info file to ram: it did exactly
>theat.  Ie copied the disk.info file to the ram.  Great if you want to see the
>icon after opening the ram disk.
>
>Thanks for your help anyway but I have allready tried them and they don't seem
>to work.

	What you have done wrong is that you just renamed the icon to disk.info
if you click information in the menu you will see that it's still a tool
or project or whatever it was before you renamed it. You need to convert it
ti a disk icon. I have a program called icontype. There are others on the latest
fish. As a test to see if it works get a disk icon from any other program you 
have and copy it to ram before loadwb and you will see it works. (As it does
for me now)
	George



>
>
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