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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 08:58:00 CDT
From:         Anne Harwell <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Quote of the day.
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>Twain never met Madonna. ;)

Twain wasn't at the IRC Party last night either.

-abh
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:54:14 -0500
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: social security numbers
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> Anybody want a ride?
> --ggs
Why of *course* we all want a ride.  Cruise on down to Texas and start with
the Teneters.
Doris
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 08:22:00 EDT
From:         "PLOTKIN, ALEC DAVID" <185422285@UCIS.VILL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Werner, buddy!
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>"Basic research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing" is
>from two places:  The first screen of my CrossTalk program, and Werner's
>autobiography, "I Aim At The Stars".*

>John "A screaming comes across the sky" W.

>*subtitled, "But Managed To Hit London"...


Thanks muchly. I was unable to find the book in the mess I call my room.

later

alec
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:25:12 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: No Picture of Giggles (was Re: Eating Whales)
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              21 Jul 1992 21:41:23 CDT from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

On Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:41:23 CDT Natalie Maynor said:
>Why is Giggles not in a single one of my clambake pictures??  I'm
>beginning to think that I just imagined him -- that he wasn't really
>there.

He's in LOTS of mine...especially a lot of them from the Pawsox game.
I'll show you mine if you show me yours.....

its ok natalie, bernard won't care.....

dan
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:26:04 EDT
From:         Don Thornton <DTHORNTN@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Which large or unabrdg dictionary ...
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What a tease ... you're just toying with my affections!
.>One of the replacements (post divorce) that I want to treat myself to
.>this year is an excellent dictionary. What would you recommend?
.Well, now that you are divorced, you could marry me. I
well it has been three years AND this is the best offer yet

.am packaged with a full sized OED.
I was thinking of something a little more portable (can you carry it?)

.>The boxed double volume with a rectangular magnifying glass in a little
.>drawer would be my first choice. Has anyone seen those lately?
.That's the miniaturized version of the one I have.
must be the one to get then ... even comes with optics, wow.

.>If I also want something as an occasional scrabble reference should I
.>get a seperate book.
.Oh, forget it! Let's stay *SEP-A-RATE*
If only I had a good dictionary. Best offer in three years and she
turns me down cause I don't have a good dictionary. OK I can't spell.

.>Any binding thoughts appreciated, too.
.No binding. No bonds. Never mind.
but what kind of a marriage would it be with no bonds? This is unclear
do you want bonds or am I just always getting involved in repeat
relationships with women who are less than committed.

.>Don
.judith, fussy
Guess I'll never live up to these standards ... but she does come
with a dictionary.
Maaaa! where'd "love, judith" go? it's getting blurry, fuszy where's
that lexicon?
Don (I laughed till I cried ... was I rejected??)
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:44:30 CDT
From:         Anne Harwell <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Political notes from all over
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>It was just you.  I've *never* met a woman who pays as much attention
>to men's groins as you do, Anne.  And making remarks about them in front

Coming from GT, this is a high compliment.

-abh
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:07:10 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      quick answer needed...help
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What do you call it when you mention something when you say you aren't
going to....as in....

Rather than saying what a jerk you are, I'll just talk about your good points.

or that kind of thing.

Not: metaphor, simile, synecdoche, etc.....


huh?
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:40:36 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      analog vs. digital
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> Wow.  I'm not the only person who has an easier time with hands on
> the clock than with digital clocks.

I think most people are this way.

Karen
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:28:27 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      TORKEL's bio
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So Torkel...I think we are the same age.  But Neal is a *whole*
year older.

Karen
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:18:08 +0200
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Eating Whales
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              21 Jul 92 09:12:44 -0500. <9207211413.AA20868@sics.se>

  Frank says.

  >I don't think whales are killed primarily for their meat are they?

  Killing whales has been "discussed" in soc.culture.nordic for some time.
The Norwegians are extremely touchy on this subject. They insist that they
want to eat whales, and ask, why shouldn't we eat whales? You get the
impression that the Norwegians are constantly drooling for whale. The
Japanese also want to eat whales. Dead whales are used for other things, but
it is my impression that people in the dead whale industry like to emphasize
the eating aspect.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:30:30 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: What kind of dossier is this stuff going into?
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              Jul 29, 92 9:27 am

	God, I hope you didn't give it to them, MEM.  For the record,
Aldus asks for your SS number on their registration cards -- I always
send back some smartass comment in that spot.  Your social security number
is not a form of identification, and it is illegal for it to be asked for
as such.

Czarina
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Date:         Sat, 25 Jul 1992 22:33:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: No Picture of Giggles (was Re: Eating Whales)
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> >I don't photograph well.... in fact, not at all.  I stand in front
> >of a mirror and..... *nothing*.....  Oh, dear, now I am very
> >depressed.
> >--ggs
>
> and you <are fibbing like McGee>, you charlatan...I've got two or three very
> nice pictures with you in them.  Elaine will also soon have them, so
> we'll both have <proof> that you were there.
>
> --Adam

And I will not believe a word of this note until I *see* these
mythical photographs, in my mailbox.
--ggs
ps:  it is obvious that I have returned and what is not obvious is
that I am still depressed, this time because I only have *537* pieces
of words-l mail.  What have you people been doing in my absence?????
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:06:31 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Gifs
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	Well, that picture of Nico and me is just beautiful.  It also
happens to be the only one I have now -- how fitting that it is only
electronic..


Czarina
From: WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM (WERTSJ)
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Subject: re: Social Security
Date: 31 Jul 92 02:26:00 GMT
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>But I disagree w/ Natalie that all of this is benign.
>
>On the other hand, I don't see Jill's scenario:
>> "Oh, by the way, did I mention that I met your friend 90X-XX-XXXX
>> last night at a party?  He was with 91X-XX-XXXX, and they looked   y
>ver > chummy. <nudge, nudge>"

      (of course, this was a slight exaggeration)

>People used to say that about computer id#s.  And that surely hasn't
>happened; everyone simply uses alias files or nickname files.

I don't think it is part of an overall plan, but I don't think it is
a good trend, either.  I think it is impossible to live in the world
today, and *not* have information about you and your
buying/credit/etc. habits floating around out there.  Given the sheer
volume of the information available, I think that Big Brother is a
very real threat.  Even if we put restrictions on the uses government
agencies can make of information about us, what about all the
commercial enterprises out there, merrily selling mailing lists and
demographic data, sometimes getting very detailed?  We need
comprehensive, workable privacy protections for individuals - ones
that apply to the public and private sector.

The psychology of this kind of thing is fascinating (not that I know
anything about psychology...standard disclaimer): when you start to
think about all the information that is available about you (credit
reports, social security earnings (and jobs?) histories, bank
statements, phone records, what you rented at the local Blockbuster
video store, what you used your credit cards for, what books you buy
(if you belong to a chain store discount club), what groceries you
buy (if you belong to a grocery store discount club), etc. The list
goes on and on...), the only thing that probably keeps most people
from breaking out into a cold sweat is the fact that "no one would
possibly be interested in little ole' me!"  But what if they were?

Scary stuff?  Uh-huh.  As I said, I don't think there is some
organized plot, but we sure are setting ourselves up for one.  My
faith in my fellow human beings only goes so far.  I want protection!

Jill
 ...feeling just a little bit paranoid right now...
   (wertsj%dialog@mcimail.com)
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:49:59 EDT
From:         Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Re: IRC
              22 Jul 1992 21:48:57 CDT from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

On Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:48:57 CDT Natalie Maynor said:
>                               Bernard and I were both on IRC when QEMM
>and TN3270 got into one of their usual fights and the computer froze.
     ^^^^^^

But Natalie, I thought you *hated* IBM mainframes.  And I thought QEMM
was suppposed to stop the fights, not join in.

Tony H.
(On OS/2 where there are no fights...)
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 10:11:29 -0900
From:         RUTH M RYAN <JSRMR%ALASKA.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: dreary weekend

>What part of acadamia dominates your life?
>Doris

I'm an undergrad at the University of Alaska Southeast in Juneau,
trying to finish a liberal arts degree in communications and a
B.Ed in early childhood education this year.  Have worked as a
TA for the education faculty for the last 3 years with the
distance-delivery courses to students in remote areas of Southeast
Alaska.
- Ruth (jsrmr.alaska.bitnet)
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From: jwagner@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Judith O Wagner)
Subject: Re: Amateurs????
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:56:25 GMT

In article <Pine.2.0.50.9207261607.A11302@Joyce-Perkins.tenet.edu> Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU> writes:
>OK, it is time for me to show my ignernce once again, but I'm counting on
>you kind people to educate me.
>
>I thought the Olympic teams were composed of amateurs - people who do not
>get paid for playing their sport.  So what are Magic Johnson and Michael
>Jordon doing in the Olympics?  When did the rules change?
>Doris

I'm not sure when the US rules changes, but there were professional
tennis players in the Games at least four years ago.  Maybe the US
decided that since other countries were sending their pros, we might
also!

2Judith who watched most of it yesterday and *loved* the arrow
        shot--even if anyone within 10 feet of it could have
        lit it with a Bic

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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:46:17 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Quote of the day.
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> Obvious pun deleted

No, obvious pun maintained.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:27:00 MST
From:         "JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS"
 <WILLIAMS%MC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Werner, buddy!

"Basic research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing" is
from two places:  The first screen of my CrossTalk program, and Werner's
autobiography, "I Aim At The Stars".*

John "A screaming comes across the sky" W.

*subtitled, "But Managed To Hit London"...
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 02:07:15 CDT
From:         Tushar Samant <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject: RE: One small step...
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>>>> Who remembers what they were doing 23 years ago today ?
>
>Awaiting the birth of my second child and


Exactly what my mother was doing.

tushar
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:28:47 -0500
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: You said a mouthful
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On Wed, 22 Jul 1992, PBARFOOT@suvm.bitnet wrote:
> My nomination for phrase of the week is:
>           recidivous rhetorical metagrobolizing
>
> I plan to use this phrase as often as possible in my day to day
> conversation. How about you ?
>                                               Br Paul

I obviously missed something...what was the context for this gem?
ndh
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:56:00 EST
From:         "Alec D. Plotkin 215-645-4366"
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Subject:      RE: bio

The bio was colorful and lucid. I do wish I could write well.
Thanks very much for sharing such a personal part of your life with
so many people.
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:06:47 EDT
Reply-To:     Graham Toal <gtoal@ed.ac.uk>
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: How's Adbam doing?
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On Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:06:00 EDT, "Rita Leonard x3403" <LEONARD@BCVMCMS.BITNET>
 wrote:
> Just a few days ago, Ann was questioning the length of time it was safe
> to keep a frozen turkey (over on EAT-L).  Apparently she is feeling up
> to doing a little cooking.  I think she was planning to thaw one she
> had frozen some time ago.  She *sounded* fine.

Probably not the best time to risk salmonella et al...

G
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Date:         Sat, 25 Jul 1992 08:16:34 -0500
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Thanks for Unix help
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Thanks everyone for all the help on my infantile little Unix problem. Just
as cattle were not meant to graze on the Interstate, I was not meant to
swim in Unix waters.

-abh
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:59:00 LCL
From:         Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM
Subject: Re: Eating whales
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>How stupid we are here in Idaho, where YOUR type of CA isn't much needed,
>due the drought causing a REAL shortage of whales in the Snake River.
>There is even a continuing shortage of salmon and sturgeon on it, too,
>and the last time a twenty foot sturgeon was caught was over 40 years ago.

     Do you know, Dan, I'm going to raft the Snake through Hell's
     Canyon in about three weeks, and I just plain CAN'T WAIT.  I
     think Idaho is about the prettiest place on earth.  We rafted the
     Middle Fork of the Salmon through the Frank Church River of No
     Return Wilderness three years ago and I thought I had died and
     gone to heaven.  I had a religious experience in an open outhouse
     at sunset on a cliff overlooking a herd of bighorn sheep...

     Glad to hear there's no whales in the Snake.  I've been
     whale-free for nineteen years, four months, and eleven days, but
     when I smell fresh blubber... well, it's tough...

     Carol
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 11:48:17 EDT
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: IRC Night tonight
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>        I also tried to telnet to bradenville.andrew.cmu.edu, but it didn't
>        want to have anything to do with me either.  Doesn't anybody like me
>        anymore?        :-(
>
>neal    traven@pittvms                  Bitnet          412-624-0097 (office)
*Like* you? Neal, sweetie, we *love* you!

love, judith
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 10:04:30 EDT
From:         Bill Merrill <ST401601@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Gleanings (54
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judith on "mashugeners:"

>And many of us like the idea that people who live in Michigan
>are Michiganers. :-)

So do I. But I always thought it was Michiganders. Goes along
so nicely with Michigeese. Bill
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:22:07 EDT
From:         Don Thornton <DTHORNTN@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject: Re: WHTMIT
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Are you thinking of Cabriolet (?), Rita?

Don
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:52:20 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Greetings from Don!
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We first telnetted to Don's system but discovered that his whole system
has been changed in his absence.  Now he's *very* eager to get home and
find out what's going on.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:16:00 CDT
From:         "tk0jut1@mvs.cso.niu.edu jim thomas"
 <TK0JUT1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Speech codes

Bill writes:

    > Another interesting twist of the NIU case is that there does not
    > appear to be any code banning what the kids did.  Or at least,
    > the administration never said what rule was violated, and the
    > universit judicial officer injudiciously admitted that no
    > written rule had be broken.  The administration merely announced
    > it was offended.  Stalinism comes to NIU.  And Jim wonders why
    > so many people despise this place.

Fortunately, a school can excel despite, and not because of, the
intents of a few administrators. In this incident, NIU ranks up there
with Harvard, U of Wis, and U of Mich in screwing up.  NIU, as Bill
points out, doesn't actually have restrictive speech codes, and the
response to--I think it was Sigma Chi or SAE--was blatantly illegal.
My recollection is that it was also a private forum.

Had Bill made is radical affinities known at that time, we could have
tried to raise some creative havoc. But the fraternity folded almost
immediately in an attempt to overcome a major image problem that
campus Greeks have (if running trains, fights, organized cheating, and
other good-natured fun is considered an image problem).  I suspect
that the response was in part a response to other incidents, and there
was a "now we got 'em, let's lynch em' (along with the First
Amendment)" mentality.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:39:00 LCL
From:         Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM
Subject: Re: Goodwill
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>I have a collection of about 3500 first printings of American and
>British fiction (ca. 1940-1990), almost all of which I have
>found at Salvation Army, Goodwill, etc stores.

     Oooh, Gilbert.  I don't care about your Miata, but first editions
     make me <hot and bothered>.  I'd folio anywhere...

     Carol
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: How's Adbam doing/ EAT-L
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On Mon, 27 Jul 1992, RKESSLER@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU wrote:
>    I think I asked this question a year or two ago, but I'd
>    like to hear about some of the other exotic lists out there
>    that some of you might know about.

This is *definitely* the most exotic list I know about!
ndh
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:43:43 EDT
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Apophasis
              27 Jul 1992 08:36:00 LCL from <Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM>

>     What is a commonplace book?

The dictionary definition will tell you that it is a book used to
record memorable quotations, random thoughts, etc.  The only example of
the form I have ever read is Auden's _A Certain World_, published in
1970, and arranged alphabetically by topic.  A friend gave me a bound
book of blank pages in 1985 (this I know from the inscription), and I
have used it to record words like "apophasis", jokes, and such.  In
the seven or so years I've had it on my desktop, I've only managed to
fill up about fifty pages.  (And that's with *liberal* spacing between
entries.)   But it is useful for purposes like Dan's question, and to
supplement a very undependable memory....

brad

Oh, my commonplace book also has this telegraphic entry:

    7/28/91   First posting to Words-L

Wonder what that was all about?   Is it possible to gopher this now
and see?  That might be the post where I revealed the climax of Tom
Clancy's _Sum of All Fears_.  I'll never forget Lenny Abbey's reply:
"BGRISSOM, you are a grade-A creep.  Go play someplace else."  I'm
still a creep, but I have stuck it out here for a year (come tomorrow),
and wouldn't trade the experience for anything (except maybe a lottery
jackpot).
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