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From: roberto@dcs.gla.ac.uk (roberto)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Regarding Brundle (Was: McLaren Drivers '93
Date: 16 Dec 92 12:40:00 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.
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Craig J Fischer (fish@iastate.edu) writes:

| I was wondering...since nobody seems to know what Senna is doing next year
| (including himself, it seems), what will McLaren do if he doesn't drive for
| them???
|
| Is Martin Brundle busy yet?? Without getting into a debate over Brundle 
| himself, is there anyone of his potential that could drive for McLaren next
| year??

I saw a quick interview with Brundle and he says he is not willing to accept 
any drive only for the sake of staying in F1. 

He says he is rather prepared to take the risk and wait until Senna plays the 
"cards" he is holding. 

I believe that he will be the other McLaren driver if Senna doesn't stay.

Roberto Barros
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From: bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe)
Subject: Re: Cig and Alcohol Ads
Organization: nCUBE Computers, Beaverton, Oregon, U.S.A.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:27:55 GMT

ProFormance Motorsports has signed Dominic Dobson to run
a limited IndyCar schedule with sponsorship from Tobacco
Free, a non-profit foundation headed by Dr. Eric Blom of
The Head and Neck Cancer Rehabilitation Institute and a
coalition of physicians at Methodist Hospital of Indiana.

ProFormance is headed by former SCCA promoter Tim Duke,
engineer John Dick and mechanic Randy Bain.

Tobacco Free is targeted toward the youth of America and
the hazards of using tobacco products.  Plans call for a
video tape and poster to be developed and delivered to 
over 500,000 high school and college students across
America in addition to public appearances by Dobson and 
other celebrities that support the Tobacco Free Campaign.

Says Duke, "It is not our intent to go head to head with
Phillip Morris or RJR, but as a three pack a day smoker with
children and grandchildren, I most certainly believe we should
educate our youth about the damages of taking up a tobacco
habit, and to show them that the real winner's circle is
Tobacco Free."

--The above taken from National Speed Sport News--

bob
From: bruce@egh-qc.uucp (Bruce Fisher)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: F1: Hill gets Williams drive!
Date: 17 Dec 92 09:45:30 GMT
Organization: Surgical Materials Testing Laboratory

igb@fulcrum.co.uk (Ian G Batten) writes:

>In article <7099@sersun1.essex.ac.uk> aghao@sersun2.essex.ac.uk () writes:
>> didn't whinge at all, although his speech did go on for quite a while, as he

>Which programme were you watching?  It looked like a giant whine to me.
>The lines:

>	``Ayrton and Alain sent me an early Xmas present [pause] They
>	  stamped on my foot''

>and

>	``Ayrton likes me so much he tried kiss the back of my car''

>sounded like a whinge to me.

>ian

Sounded like humour to me.

Bruce.

-- 
Bruce Fisher
Quality Control Laboratory,		email :  bruce@egh-qc.uucp
Bridgend General Hospital,		or    :  bruce@egh-qc.co.uk
Bridgend,				or    :  uknet!egh-qc!bruce
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From: helene@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Helene Blankespoor)
Subject: Re: Various threads.
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:11:54 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.081247.9240@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> marti@nugget.inf.ethz.ch (Robert Marti) writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.134756.6061@gdr.bath.ac.uk>, bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk
>(Andrew Henry) writes:
>|> The Motoring News reckons the Hart engine might soon become a Rover.
>|> Apparently some Rover stickers appeared on a Jordan during one of
>|> the recent test sessions.
>
>Interesting.  Is Rover still a British Leyland company?  (Are Jaguar?)
>Or are one or more of these entities owned by the Japanese?  And wasn't
>the 1.5 litre Coventry Climax F1 engine a product of British Leyland?
>

British Leyland does not exist any more, after another reorganisation it
was called Austin Rover and after another reorganisation it was called 
Rover. Jaguar became an independent manufacturer in 1984 and was bought
by Ford in 1990. As far as I know, the Coventry Climax factory was not 
part of BMC/British Leyland or any of the other names it was called at
the time.

Helene.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:19:03 EST
From: <BWF2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: A Tip of the Helmet!

In article <199212151259.AA24876@pitt.edu>,
Ardalan=Sadeghi%System%Co_LAN@deskpro.COMpt.pitt.EDU says:

>A tip of the helmet to William Stoffel and his 'Televised Event' listings.
>Without his efforts many races would have been missed.  And the summer
>season (racing season) could be a lost cause.  Just to let you know that
>your efforts are appreciated.  Thanks much and have a merry christmas.

     I'll second this accolade to Mr. Stoffel!!! (Or third it depending on
      when you'll read this). Many many many many thanx to you Bill!

 Brian ' is it February yet? ' France

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From: lmcstst@noah.ericsson.se (Stamos Stamos)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: F1 on the telly(TSN)
Date: 19 Dec 92 16:46:31 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Communications Inc. Montreal, Canada
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.




Formula One, Year in Review,

this Sunday (20th) at 3:30pm on TSN 






--
Stamos <lmcstst@noah.ericsson.se>            ZZR11            Ellas
Ericsson, Cellular Design
Montreal, Canada.
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From: oberem@carson.u.washington.edu (Graham Oberem)
Subject: Re: F1 calenders
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:03:10 GMT

giants@wpi.WPI.EDU (J Scott Kearney) writes:


>	I have a general question.  A few days ago, someone posted the
>address for RP Enterprises at.... for F1 calenders.

Is this the same calendar reviewed in Autoweek (Dec 14th, page 13)?  They
gave it a big thumbs down.  I quote (without permission): "if you need
a calendar to pencil in Aunt Gladys' birthday, this one is as good as
any.  But if you're looking for a good pictorial history of the 1992
Formula One season, we think you will be disappointed."  That kind of
put me off a bit.  I was thinking of gettng the Goodyear calendar
which I saw mentioned in r.a.s. a while back.  Any comments on that
one?

They give the address as:

R.P. Enterprises
1840 41st Ave. #102-233
Capitola, CA 95010

NOTE:  I have not seen this product and I have no connection with R.P.
Enterprises.

Graham





>     
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From: hanss@microsoft.com (Hans Spiller)
Subject: Re: D. Hill vs A. Prost <-> Mi. Andretti vs. A Senna
Date: 17 Dec 92 01:24:12 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In article <1992Dec16.042500.25976@cunews.carleton.ca> marcink@quantum.carleton.ca wrote:
> A discussion "D. Hill vs A. Prost"  - who is better inspired
> me to ask a question, maybe even flame...
> Michael Andretti tested McLaren in Barcelona and got half a second behind
> Senna's qualifying time in 1992 spec car.I think that it is quite quick -
> for a first test...
> 
> Marcin

remember, though, that Barcelona was early in the year, and that Honda
found quite a bit more power as the year wore on.  Of course, senna was
using "rocket fuel" to set his time.  what was Michael using?  who was the other
McLaren driver in the test? I think we're comparing apples and oranges.

A friend of mine recently had the opportunity to tour a certain italian
F1 shop, one with its own test track--and the smell of toluene (or whatever
that "sweet" smell is) was unmistakable.  the rules may say one thing, but
some folks may feel "above" such things.

Didn't D Hill spend some time in F3000?  how'd he do?

				-Hans
				hanss@microsoft.com
From: awatkins@mullara.met.unimelb.edu.au (Andrew B. Watkins)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: WRC final standings anyone?
Date: 12 Dec 1992 23:34:25 +1100
Organization: University of Melbourne Dept of Meteorology
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au

Hello world!
Could someone please e-mail me the world rallye championship
results.
I am currently in Honiara, Solomon Islands on field work,
and cannot read the news, so any emailed info on the WRC
would be most appreciated.




Andrew B. Watkins                    |    `To strive, to seek, to find and
awatkins@mullara.met.unimelb.edu.au  |     not to yield'  
awatkins@buster.met.unimelb.edu.au   |                  - Lord Tennyson 

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From: kyp@stsci.edu (Mark Kyprianou,PA386,x4193,ADD.2.6.92)
Subject: Re: IndyCar .GIF's
Originator: kyp@star1.stsci.edu
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:33:30 GMT

From article <14!rq7h@lynx.unm.edu>, by trubik@hydra.unm.edu (S. M. Trujillo):
> I was going to post mine to that group as well, but was told
> by a friend who reads r.a.s that many sites do not subscribe
> to any of the picture newgroups.  SO . . .
> 
Isn't there an ftp site for F1 GIF's?  Maybe it could be expanded in
scope to include the Indy GIF's.

Does anyone know the ftp site and directory?
-- 
     Mark        Space Telescope Science Institute, Baltimore, MD 21218
     Kyprianou   Internet: kyp@stsci.edu       UUCP: ...!noao!stsci!kyp
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From: roberto@dcs.gla.ac.uk (roberto)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Prost x Hill (Was Re: Williams F1)
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:48:10 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.
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Chris Prael (chrisp@regenmeister.Sun.COM) writes:

|The testing results that have been published, so far show that the
|closest Prost has gotten to Hill's times is 0.6 seconds slower and the
|numbers have more often been in the range of 1.0 to 1.6 seconds slower.
|Those numbers say that today, Damon Hill can walk away from Allain Prost
|the same way that Nigel Mansell walked away from Rico Patrese.

I wish you were at least partially right. 
If only Damon Hill makes Prost work hard for the championship ....

Even though I think this may be possible, I find it very unlikely to happen. 
In F1, being fast does not guarantee anything. Given their experiences are 
the two extremes, I don't think Hill has much chance. 

I believe Hill has a chance of getting a couple of pole positions and might even 
win his first GP, but IMHO it is very unlikely that he will win frequently. 

If the williams team manages to be as dominant as this year, you may bet 
that the 93 championship will be even more boring than this years'. 
I desperately hope this doesn't happen!

Roberto Barros
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch (kevinh)
Subject: Re: F1: Hill gets Williams drive!
Originator: kevinh@nath
Reply-To: kevinh@hasler.ascom.ch
Organization: Ascom Hasler AG
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:10:21 GMT


In article <BzBJJ1.7uD@ncube.com>, bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe) writes:
kevinh wrote:
|> >In article <BzB8nx.4ty@ncube.com>, bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe) writes:
|> >|> .....just curious about something.  Seems to me that the
|> >|> Damon Hill announcement (at least here) has garnered more
|> >|> discussion than the Mears' retirement announced last week.
|> >
|> >Mears? Mears? Who's he?? Ohh - a NASCAR driver, that explains 
|> >it. C'mon, this is an international forum, not some tin pot
|> >old dinosaur racecar club :-).
|>
|> Ohhhh....is this the same Mears who is:
|> 
|> - 3 time national champion ('79/'81/'82)
|> - 4 time Indy500 winner (79/84/88/91)
|> - Only driver to win 6 Indy500 poles (79/82/86/88/89/91)
|> - Only IndyCar driver to win every road course in a single
|> season (81)
|> - Came to IndyCars from the world of off-road racing
|> - Started racing motorcycles in the California desert in '68
|> - Won more than 60 trophies before switching to dune buggies
|> to please his worried mother
|> - In '73, took 7 off-road victories and started racing sports-
|> man stock cars in California
|> - Has an older brother that has dabbled in Indycars and throws
|> a truck around here and there

Ahh, some local driver then :-).

|> bob

kevinh@hasler.ascom.ch
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From: thos@suite.sw.oz.au (Thomas Cohen)
Subject: Re: French GP struck off!
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd
Date: 13 Dec 92 21:40:27 GMT

In <1992Dec11.195313.1126@mala.bc.ca> epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp) writes:

>According to the news report I read, the FISA decision had nothing to
>do with people blockading the highways.  The French race was dropped 
>because a French court fined McClaren (I think) for displaying cigarette
>advertising in the Australian Grand Prix, which was shown on French TV.

Typical French ego-centrism.

>The fear, I expect, is that before too long many of the teams will owe
>massive fines in France, so that if they set foot on French soil, they
>could be detained until they pay.

How will this affect their travel within Europe? France is between 
the UK and a number of places (but I suppose that only matters if
they went home between races).


regards,
-- 
thos cohen                                     |Softway Pty Ltd
                                               |ACSnet:         thos@softway.oz
 "Lex is a flaky implementation of a bad idea" |UUCP: ...!uunet!softway.oz!thos
                          - Ken Thompson, 1988 |Internet:    thos@softway.oz.au
From: squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Handicapping (me again....)
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:11:25 GMT
Organization: BT Glasgow Systems and Software Engineering Centre, Scotland.


-- 
Point taken about handicapping people ....

Believe me , I really care passionately about F1 , and I had a panic attack (or
something) when I made that remark...... sorry , I didn't realise about the
German touring cars ...)

The question is , what do FISA do ?
If they limit technology , as always , then it brings innovation , but also more
of last years antics ..... we have to decide whether F1 can keep it's tag of
being the technological battleground , using tech from the car of tommorow , but
it also has to be considered that maybe some people will be put off by the
one-man processions .... how long will the sponsors last if that happens ?

Sorry if this has been discussed before , but it's really important for the
future of the racing .... :(

By the way , the British Touring Car Championship for next year is going to be
an absolute stormer ! 
Once again Britain can be proud of it's motor racing.

Stephen Quigg
squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
British Telecom , GSSEC , Glasgow
(Nothing in any of my mail represents my Employer in any way)
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From: bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe)
Subject: Re: F1: Hill gets Williams drive!
Organization: nCUBE Computers, Beaverton, Oregon, U.S.A.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:57:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.195628.26984@news.ysu.edu> ah179@yfn.ysu.edu (Brian Wilson) writes:
>In article <BzB8nx.4ty@ncube.com>, bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe) writes:
>|> .....just curious about something.  Seems to me that the
>|> Damon Hill announcement (at least here) has garnered more
>|> discussion than the Mears' retirement announced last week.
>
>Mears? Mears? Who's he?? Ohh - a NASCAR driver, that explains 
>it. C'mon, this is an international forum, not some tin pot
>old dinosaur racecar club :-).
>
>Mears is an IndyCar driver.  He is in a three-waay tie for the 
>most Indianapolis 500 victories.  He has at least three IndyCar
>championships to his credit.  He was offered a seat with Brabham
>in the early eighties, but he decided to stay with what he loved
>most - the most competitive form of top-level open-wheel racing:
>American IndyCars.
>-- 
>

Ohhhh....is this the same Mears who is:

- 3 time national champion ('79/'81/'82)
- 4 time Indy500 winner (79/84/88/91)
- Only driver to win 6 Indy500 poles (79/82/86/88/89/91)
- Only IndyCar driver to win every road course in a single
season (81)
- Came to IndyCars from the world of off-road racing
- Started racing motorcycles in the California desert in '68
- Won more than 60 trophies before switching to dune buggies
to please his worried mother
- In '73, took 7 off-road victories and started racing sports-
man stock cars in California
- Has an older brother that has dabbled in Indycars and throws
a truck around here and there

.....guess that's why I haven't seen too much follow-up in
the media - he wasn't a ball player

bob

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From: eu507dac@pts.mot.com (DOUG CHRISTENSEN X3915 P6818)
Subject: IMSA Firehawk Schedule
Reply-To: eu507dac@pts.mot.com
Organization: Paging and Wireless Data Group
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:35:51 GMT

For those interested in door slammers...

1993 IMSA Firestone Firehawk Endurance Series Schedule:

Mar 18,19	Sebring twin 4 hour
April 17	Atlanta Motor Speedway - 3 hour
May 14 (T)	Indianapolis Raceway Park - 3 hour
June 12		Mid-Ohio - 3 hour
June 26 	Watkins Glen - 3 hour
July 10		Road America - 3 hour  (fun track)
July 25 	Laguna Seca - 3 hour
July 31		Portland - 3 hour
Sept 17		Pontiac Street Circuit - 3 hour
TBA		Sebring Final - ?? hour

1992 FFEC Points champs

Grand Touring	Nick Ham, Porsche 944 S2
Sports		Boris Said, Dodge Stealth
Touring		Randy Pobst, Honda Prelude

1992 FFEC Manufactures Points:

GT	1. Porsche
	2. Chevrolet
	3. Pontiac

S	1. Dodge
	2. Oldsmobile
	3. Eagle

T	1. Honda
	2. Saturn
	3. Volkswagen

Reprinted from the "Arrow", IMSA's official magazine

*********************************************************

On a personal note, I am slated to run with SCCA National Champion Tom Schweitz
in the Duval Racing Honda Prelude #30 for the 1993 season.  I will try to post
goings on during the season.  If you haven't seen a Firehawk race yet, go watch.
Tons of action, tons of talent, large fields, wide variety of manufactures and 
the cars are basically stock.
---
Doug Christensen    SCCA SSB Scirocco 16V
doug_christensen@pts.mot.com
     _____
   _/_|__|\__
  | _ |61| _ \
 <-(_)----(_)-^       "When I'm racing, I'm alive.  Everthing else
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^    is just waiting."  Steve McQueen, Le Mans.
From: unglenie@ford.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J Unglenieks)
Subject: Re: Opinion on Mears
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:49:12 GMT

Brian Wilson writes:
>I am a big Rick Mears fan.  I saw him win his fourth (and final)
>Indy 500 in 1991.  I have immense respect for him as a driver and
>a team player.  When he sat out with his injury, he was there at
>the track to help coach Tracy.  He is the consummate professional.

Amen.  Remember when he stepped aside to let the "temporary" driver
Al Unser Sr. win the championship......?  I wouldn't mind seeing the
ovalmeister take an occasional shot at the 500 ala Al Sr.

Rob U
--
-       Rob Unglenieks             REAL race cars DON'T wear BOWTIES       -
-  "It is the foreign element that commits our crimes.   There is no       -
-   native criminal class except Congress."  [Samuel Langhorne Clemens]    -
-  (Don't look at me, I DIDN'T vote for Clinton.  Will Engineer For Food)  -
From: bownes@crd.ge.com (Keptin Komrade Dr. Bobwrench III)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Road America is my vote
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:07:49 GMT
Reply-To: bownes@crd.ge.com
Organization: School of Corrective Phrenology

Bringing RA up to F1 specs would be way too costly. Not enough run-off,
traps are not big enough, and the largest cost of all - Pits and paddock.
It's crowded at a GTP race and they don't need doors they can slam in our faces.

As a track, it would be terrific, I must agree.

More likely: Mid-Ohio, Heartland Park, or somewhere out west.

---
Bob Bownes, aka iii "The only way I know where the train will go is when I'm 
sleeping on the tracks" -M. Etheridge
Warning: This may contain opinions. They belong to me, not to Aule-Tek, 
Sun Microsystems, General Electric or anyone else. But you can rent them. 
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From: igb@fulcrum.co.uk (Ian G Batten)
Subject: Re: F1: Hill gets Williams drive!
Organization: Fulcrum Communications
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 08:59:20 GMT

In article <7099@sersun1.essex.ac.uk> aghao@sersun2.essex.ac.uk () writes:
> didn't whinge at all, although his speech did go on for quite a while, as he

Which programme were you watching?  It looked like a giant whine to me.
The lines:

	``Ayrton and Alain sent me an early Xmas present [pause] They
	  stamped on my foot''

and

	``Ayrton likes me so much he tried kiss the back of my car''

sounded like a whinge to me.

ian
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From: squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: REPOPST: Microprose F1GP Review
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:05:03 GMT
Organization: BT Glasgow Systems and Software Engineering Centre, Scotland.


-- 
Hey , 
	I was thinking ..... just set Formula 1 GP to real-time , and then ,
every two sundays , play the appropriate race ,and then save your game !
This means you get a whole season of fun .... driving the Andrea Modena car ..

Hey presto ! You become a *REAL* GP driver !

(Between races , you could lie on a beach or whinge that the computer was
working terribly , but you still managed to win by 10 miles ...etc... :) :)

have fun ,
:) :) :) :)
Stephen Quigg
squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
British Telecom , GSSEC , Glasgow
(Nothing in any of my mail represents my Employer in any way)
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From: rgolen@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: Re: Porsche trivia question
Reply-To: rgolen@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:21:00 GMT

In article <winders-121292160234@macwinders.support.apple.com>, winders@aux.support.apple.com (Scott Winders) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.173406.9335@iscsvax.uni.edu>,
>pighetti2194@i>
>RS stands for "Race Sport" and RSR stands for "Race Sport Race".
>The 1973 911 Carrera RS was the homologation (street legal production)
>version of the 1973 911 Carrera RSR.
>

>Scott Winders
>winders@aux.support.apple.com
>
A couple of corrections are in order here:

1. RS stands for Renn Sport - German for Race Sport

2. Homologation is not the equivilent of "street legal production". It
is a term related to the number of particular automobiles which a
manufacturer must produce inorder for a particular model to qualify
for a particular series. For example in 1969 Porsche had to produce
50 917s inorder for it to be homologated as a Group 5 car and run
in the World Sports Car Championship.

It can also apply to certain competition parts as well. In order for
certain mechanical components of a competition automobile to be 
considered "legal" for competition, a manufacturer must prove
that the required number of the parts have been produced and are
available (ie: through a parts listing, etc).

Homologation does not mean the car is "street legal production", if
it were then I would be able to have purchased a Porsche 959 in
the US because it was "Homologated" to Group B rally specs.


Ric Golen 
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From: scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY)
Subject: Mears Retires [was Re: Senna to Penske?]
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 11 Dec 1992 15:05 EST  

While we're on the subject of who may or may not be driving for Penske next 
year, I guess that there was a blurb in the Plain Dealer (Cleveland's only 
daily newspaper) announcing Rick Mears retirement from IndyCar racing.  
Don't know anything more on the subject beyond this...

JD
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