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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Vader's Death
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:41:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw4xsu.43y
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:


>I also have a question about Luke burning Vader's armor.  This
>will probably seem to be coming completely out of left field,
>but I think that in the Star Wars society, burning (as opposed
>to burying) is the common death ritual (for lack of a better
>term).  My reasoning is based on a scene in ANH.  After Luke,
>Ben, C-3PO, and R2-D2 find the Jawa Sandcrawler that the
>Imperials destroyed, Luke races home, finds Owen and Beru dead,
>and races back to Ben, et. al.  And what are Ben, C-3PO, and
>R2-D2 doing?  Burning the Jawa's bodies.  Anyone have any
>ideas why, or does my funeral pyre idea seem valid to anyone
>else in the world (probably a first for one of my ideas   :)  )?

Could be.  The ritual may be a purely Tatooine custom, though, since the
only characters we see using funeral pyres are natives or inhabitants of
Tatooine.  No real way of knowing, of course.                    

By the way, exactly how well-trained in the Force does one have to be 
before one earns the privilege of having one's body dematerialize upon
death?  Any theories?


                                   --Steve Stelter
                                     sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: alumni106@camins.camosun.bc.ca (Max Sterling)
Subject: Re: Sounds at wpi.wpi.edu
Organization: Camosun College
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 05:33:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.191418.4587@desire.wright.edu>, cshamis@desire.wright.edu writes:

> What in the heck is a .VOC file?  Ive never heard of that standard?  
> I dont really care to much cuz my Amiga can read just about anything.  :)
> But for the IBMers out there....

It's a lamo standard used by Beamers. In order to convert it to a format 
useable by your Amiga, pretty much all you have to do is invert the most 
significant bit in each byte. I think there's a header of 32 bytes in a 
.VOC file and a header of 68 bytes in an 8svx file, but  36 bytes isn't 
going to make too much difference to the sample. To change it to a TRUE 
IFF sample after the conversion, simply load it into something that 
allows input of raw AMIGA samples, and then save it as IFF. Mata ne.

                                                       -=]> Max <[=-

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|Kup- "This reminds me of the time when my   +-> Kup- "You ever SEEN a Regulan|
|      my platoon was stranded on Regulan IV;|         Metal Monger, lad?"    |
|      there we were, only SEVEN HUNDRED of  |   Hot Rod- "Uh, no,..."        |
|      US, against THREE WHOLE REGULAN METAL |   Kup- "TRUST me! We were      |
|      Mongers!"                             |         outnumbered!           |
|Hot Rod- "Seven HUNDRED of YOU? Against     +--------------------------------+
|          THREE of THEM? Aw, come on, Kup!"-+ alumni106@camins.camosun.bc.ca |
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From: shoham@ll.mit.edu (Daniel Shoham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: dumb Empire question
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:23:45 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <Bvu4Cy.6pz@well.sf.ca.us> rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao) writes:

>I really ought to know this, but how did Boba Fett know what Han would
>be on Bespin? Was it just from following him after they flew off the
>star destroyer? (Keep in mind that Lando says that the Empire arrived
>shortly before the Falcon did.)

Bespin was the only reasonable place to go to at sublight speed from where
they were. Remember, when Han said they are in the Noad (sp?) system, Leia
didn't need any refernces to state that "there is not much there". It was
not such a spectacular guess after all.

>Here's a tough one: if Vader knew Luke was on Hoth, why did he get his
>men to go down and smash up the base, at the risk of killing Luke?

The men (actually the ATAT)  were sent to blow up the power generator, the
assualt on the base was personally led by Vader himself!
Nonetheless, you did hit an interesting point. Hoth would have been bombed
had Admiral Weasel (sp?) not come out of light speed too close to the system,
and SHOULD have been bombed once the generator was destroyed (if Imperial
tactic in capturing planets has any consistancy). I think Vader never had
any intentions of bombing Hoth from space, he just wanted to capture Luke
ALIVE before the emperor realized the Skywalker danger (which the Emperor
did later in the movie). I think Vader intended to betray and defeat the
Emperor (with Luke's help) just as he suggested to Luke on Bespin (and as
he ultimately did on DS II). Poor weasel, he was set up!

>How did Luke get off Hoth so easily?

See above. Another possibility, the Impies were too busy with the Falcon.

>If you watch Empire in slow motion, do you see Luke's hand falling down?

How gross!

>When the Falcon is flying away from Bespin with Luke, it looks like it
>is not flying away from the planet but more like it is flying alongside
>the edge of a Star Destroyer. Do you kind of see that, too?

I am not sure about that.

>Why does Lando say "what about those fighters" before any fighters have
>shown up?

Lando can see them (on his viewscreen or via sensors) before the viewer can!

>ESB is the film I've seen the most times; at least 40-50 times....

Wow, I am not the only addict.

>-- 
>Robert Chao
>Oakland, California

Dan Shoham
shoham@ll.mit.edu
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:31:01 EDT
From: <LMS5@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: WANTED! SF figures!

In article <1992Oct9.164332.10671@ncsu.edu>, cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH
GEORGOULIAS) says:
>
>In article <92282.111623JMC159@psuvm.psu.edu>, <JMC159@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>|>
>|>I have a best friend who only needs these few figures to have a complete 92
>set
>|>Star Wars figure collection.  He is looking for the following:
>
>Well, by my count, there's *100* different figures available for the movies
>(101 if you count the RocketFett), 6 for the Ewok cartoons and 12 for the     s
>Droid
>cartoons.  I just wouldn't call 92 a *complete* set even from just the movie
>figures standpoint.
>
    If memory serve me correctly (it rarely does :-), there were several
  actions figures advertised on the back of the packaging that were never
  sold in the U.S. I saw one of the figures at a convention several years
  ago and the dealer was asking $150 :-( He said those figures were
  released in Europe. Does anyone have a list of these figures? I believe
  there were about 10 total.

  Laurie

  P.S. I am still looking for the 'Luke Skywalker' glass from 'Star Wars' that
       Burger King gave away as promotions.


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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: Vaders death
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:01:26 GMT

adrian@cs.hw.ac.uk (Adrian Hurt) writes:

>In article <BvJ769.Eu2@news.cso.uiuc.edu> g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin) writes:
>>jbell@mihi.une.edu.au (Master of Puppets) writes:
>>
>>>Umm, why exactly DID Vader die????
>>>Luke withstood MUCH more than Vader from the emporer
>>>whats the story?
>>
>>As I mentioned previously in my post describing the Jedi script (am I the
>>only one who tries to read carefully?), Vader dies from a combination of:
>>1) the battering he takes from Luke
>>2) the tremendous physical effort needed to throw the Emperor into the shaft
>>3) the Emperor's lightning that strikes Vader

>Also, note that up till then, the Emperor had not been trying to kill Luke -
>only to torture him.  By contrast, the bolts directed at Vader were intended
>to kill Vader before Vader killed him.  The Emperor wanted to hurt Luke, and
>then kill him slowly; he wanted to kill Vader quickly.

>Besides, what you didn't see was the Emperor flipping a couple of the switches
>on Vader's chest. :-)

It didn't help matters much that Vader's life-support system was hooked up
to a Clapper, either...

:)

                                  --Steve Stelter
                                    sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Archive Update
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:44:16 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: g-martin1@uiuc.edu's message of 14 Oct 92 23:59:58 GMT

>>>>> On 14 Oct 92 23:59:58 GMT, g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin) said:

g-martin1> Originator: gamg6900@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

g-martin1> ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:
>	The Jedi script has been updated. I guess there were numerous
>errors from the original creator, due to the inacurracy of the
>scanner he used. Also he had the Lando death scene in it. The updated
>script is the movie, and the Lando death scene can now be found in
>the file: /starwars/Scripts/Jedi_Revision.Z 	Also a question on the
>Jedi script.  The format is different then the other 2. Would people
>perfer to have them all match? If I get
>a big responce on the positive, I will but the effort in to re-edit it.

g-martin1> Hey, what's the deal here? I spent 22 hours of my time
g-martin1> making sure the Jedi script exactly matched the shooting
g-martin1> script of the movie. 

Well I spent 3 weeks each typing in the other 2 by hand.

g-martin1> If you want to have another version that exactly matches
g-martin1> the final movie, fine, but I wanted the shooting script to
g-martin1> be made available. The script is, after all, what the movie
g-martin1> was made from, and not just a written version of the movie.

g-martin1> When I posted the script I also asked that I be informed of
g-martin1> any errors, so I would appreciate if someone would forward
g-martin1> a list of these "numerous errors" to me. The few email
g-martin1> messages I did receive were all due to network transmission
g-martin1> errors.

Well someone mailed it to me. The scanned pick up 1 instead of i and
things like that. And the only real difference is the Lando scene,
which is still in the file Jedi_Revisions. That was ALL that was
changed, to my knowledge, besides the spelling errors.  I really
didn't think it was a big deal. I couldn't even remeber who sent it to
me in the first place....


--
 Scott Streeter                             Keeper of the Star Wars Archive
 ss@wpi.wpi.edu                             wpi.wpi.edu        130.215.24.1
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Subject: Re: Vader's Tie Fighter
From: petra@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 16 Oct 92 11:55:10 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

In article <1992Oct14.105422.1260@abo.fi>, MLINDROOS@finabo.abo.fi (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:
> In <1992Oct8.234024.13399@ll.mit.edu> shoham@ll.mit.edu writes:
> 
>> In article <1992Oct7.102752.24244@cm.cf.ac.uk> Simon.N.Smith@cm.cf.ac.uk (Simon N Smith) writes:
>> >In the West End Games "Star Wars Sourcebook" they explain that Vaders
>> >bent-winged fighter was indeed experimental, and that it was found
>> >that this wing shape meant the solar panels would be able to collect more
>> >ambient solar radiation.  This was why the newly developed TIE-Interceptor
>> 
>> I would through that Sourcebook away. This explanation is terrible. The
>> energy provided by Solar radiation is *SO* tiny unless you are practically
>> on top of the sun that it is useless to collect it. TIE fighters are supposed
>> to be operational even in interstellar space where there is NO solar energy
>> at all.
> 
> Yeah, you're right. The so-called solar panels on Vader's ship aren't even
> moveable(sp) - if the sun is behind or in front of the ship, no part of them
> will be illuminated. At best, only half of the panels will collect energy (look
> at Russia's Mir space station, its panels can be rotated and turned so that
> they always face the sun).
> --- 
> I'd say the panels are radiators and/or radiation
> shields (on Imperial craft, the power source is inside the raised area that
> connect the panels to the craft). Face it, any power source capable of
> delivering a six-meter-spaceship into orbit without help from additional
> boosters must be powerful. What happens to the excess heat produced by it?
> It is radiated into space by those huge panels! Most likely, the "wings" on the
> X-wing fighter do the same thing - notice how the upper and lower panels always
> separate once the four blaster cannons are used, thus increasing the area used
> for dissipating(sp) excess heat from the weapon systems.

No. No. No. No. No.  The upper and lower panels separate so the cannons have a
wider field of fire, thus increasing the chance of hitting the target.  It also
spreads the engines apart allowing for greater manueverablilty.
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From: dkemper@smaug.hacks.arizona.edu (David Kemper)
Subject: Re: Star Wars font??
Organization: University of Administrative Incompetence
Reply-To: dkemper@smaug.hacks.arizona.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4  
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:43:30 GMT
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In article <ldaeudINNn36@earth.cs.utexas.edu>, hofle@cs.utexas.edu (Andrew Christopher Hofle) writes...
>Anybody out there know if there is a font like the one used in the 
>immortal StarWars title for the mac?  If so, know where I can get it?

This is a repost from this summer...

--Gallandro

    "Take it easy, kid.  It's only a movie."   --Ham Salad, "Hardware Wars"


From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Subject: Re: Font
Date: 23 Jul 92 06:57:15 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

In <21JUL199215484816@rosie.uh.edu> elee9tv@rosie.uh.edu (POWER-PILL) writes:

>In article <iacovou.711749554@gurney>, iacovou@gurney.cs.umn.edu (Danny Iacovou) writes...
>>
>>  Does anyone know what font they used to write "Star Wars" with. I mean
>>  the font that ties the letters together (know what I mean?).
>>
>>  Thanks in advance.
>>--
>       Its called the "Star Wars" font
>
>                                       Dan



Actually, the font is a variation on Futura, or a very similiar typeface.
The letters ebing tied together was done by the art department...I think
there is a place that advertises in different catalogs from time to time
that offers fonts from different movies/shows....sorry, I do not know right
off, but *IF* if see it again, I will be happy to post it....

Dave
From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Luke's lightsaber
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:56:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw772G.9L
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

albusacc@eos.ncsu.edu (ALEXANDRIA LIN BUSACCA) writes:


>I was watching ROTJ & noticed that during the scene at the Rancor pit
>when Luke uses his lightsaber to fend off his attackers all the
>lightsaber does is either knock then over or push them out of the way.
>In ESB when Luke and Vader are dueling Vader cuts off Luke's hand.  Is
>there some special reason why the lightsaber does not do any damage to
>any other part of the body except the hands, also in ROTJ when Vader &
>Luke duel for the second time Luke slices off Vader's hand.
>(Like father like son ;}  )

Probably because if the film actually showed Luke slicing up dozens of sail
barge guards in half, they'd have to give it an R rating.  I think the viewer
is supposed to assume that Luke is actually killing all these opponents at
the Rancor pit, but the camera sanitizes the violence for us--IMHO, a good
decision on the filmmakers' part.


                                        --Steve Stelter
                                          sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Classic SW Comic #1
Date: 7 Oct 92 07:37:55
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: Simon.N.Smith@cm.cf.ac.uk's message of 7 Oct 92 08:14:34 GMT

>>>>> On 7 Oct 92 08:14:34 GMT, Simon.N.Smith@cm.cf.ac.uk (Simon N Smith) said:

Smith> I've read `em and I likes `em!  But is this a monthly or
Smith> bi-monthly publication?  I'm left dangling, waiting to see what
Smith> happens next!  Only issue #1 has been in the shops here so far.

It's a monthly comic...

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 Scott Streeter                             Keeper of the Star Wars Archive
 ss@wpi.wpi.edu                             wpi.wpi.edu        130.215.24.1
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:46:08 -0400 
From: Muhammed Mohdrais <wira+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Who are these people?(ROTJ)


Hello,

	I dunno if this is  a FAQ or not. But, in a scene(ROTJ) where Vader is
talking to the Emperor, there are 2  'dudes' wearing purple outfit. 
Also, near the door of the room, another 2 guards wearing red capes and
red helmets (if I am not mistaken, they have never appeared in the
previous movies) .

Anybody know who these people are? 



Me.
From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Star Wars font??
Date: 10 Oct 92 20:02:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Oct10.130226.2224
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

Well, since someone was nice enough to drag that one up from the message
burial ground, I will add some more information to it. For those of you out
there in the graphic arts/typesetting business, there is a trade magazine
out there called "Electronic Publishing/TypeWorld" and they often carry an
advertisement for various fonts used in different TV series, movies, etc.

If someone is interested, I would be happy to upload an EPS file that I
made from Futura of "STAR WARS"  -- It is not 100% perfect, as I only
needed it briefly, but it is a pretty good reproduction.....

Let me know if you folks are interested, and I will e-mail you a copy of
it...

Dav
e.s
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From: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Next Swars movieskip
Date: 13 Oct 1992 17:23:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet () says:

>In article <1b7ascINN99f@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein) writes:
>> 
>> In a previous article, dcutter@oregon.uoregon.edu (dann cutter) says:
>> 
>>>I can't really say where I got this but... this is just to confirm any
>>>doubt: There is another SW movie (series) being made. Can't say any more...
>> 
>> OK, as long as someone else is going out on a limb, I might as well
>> add my two cents.  The magazine I write for, the Cleveland Ansible,
>> published a "Random Factoid" early this year stating that the series
>> was in pre-production.  It said that Anthoy Daniels had already been
>> signed, and that negotiations were going on with Mark Hammill to play
>> the part of young Anakin.  (Or was it young Obi-Wan?  Probably Anakin.)
>
>Ummm, I hate to be the one to dampen such enthusiasm, but even if this
>rumor is true, "pre-production" is virtually meaningless.  For
>example, Batman was in "pre-production" for about 5-7 (could be more
>or less), Spider-Man has been there for about a decade, etc.

YES!  I was wondering when somebody would catch on!

-- 
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                  Still waiting for Radish Dude ...
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From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke  )
Subject: Re: Classic SW Comic #1
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:08:55 GMT

	Yeah, I really liked this comic.  Apparently, the series
reprints a newspaper strip.  Does anyone know if this refers to a daily
b&w thing, or a weekly (Sunday) colour strip?  I remember vaguely a
Sunday one ...
	If anyone read the "background info" type page, they noticed
that an ongoing SW strip is going to be published in the Dark Horse
_Insider_, a monthly update of up-and-coming comics.  Will this be
original or another reprint, I wonder?
	Also, does anyone know how many issues the Classic title plans
to run for?
	Dark Horse said more than a year ago that they'd be doing
several SW projects.  I wonder what else we can look forward to?
	Enjoying this newsgroup ...

	Gord, a.k.a. glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
From: gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: re: Yak-Face
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:57:16 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


Would someone please post just who the heck Yak-Face is, and what point in what
movie (I assume Jedi) he appeared?  I'm going out on a limb, and guess that he
appeared for all of three seconds, never uttered a sound, and was not listed in 
the credits.  So in other words, I'm guessing he is just like most of the other
figures that came out.  Also, why was the figure not released in the USA?
-- 
BERNSTEIN,AVRON P
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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Internet: gt6390a@prism.gatech.edu
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Archive News
Date: 16 Oct 92 11:31:06 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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Two new files have been added. They are EPS files of the Star Wars
logo from pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras). They can be found
in the directory /Pictures/PS 
The files are Star1.eps and Star2.eps



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 Scott Streeter                             Keeper of the Star Wars Archive
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From: shoham@ll.mit.edu (Daniel Shoham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Vader's Tie Fighter
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:40:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: ll.1992Oct8.234024.13399
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <1992Oct7.102752.24244@cm.cf.ac.uk> Simon.N.Smith@cm.cf.ac.uk (Simon N Smith) writes:
>In the West End Games "Star Wars Sourcebook" they explain that Vaders
>bent-winged fighter was indeed experimental, and that it was found
>that this wing shape meant the solar panels would be able to collect more
>ambient solar radiation.  This was why the newly developed TIE-Interceptor

I would through that Sourcebook away. This explanation is terrible. The
energy provided by Solar radiation is *SO* tiny unless you are practically
on top of the sun that it is useless to collect it. TIE fighters are supposed
to be operational even in interstellar space where there is NO solar energy
at all.


>I'm not entering a cannon/not cannon arguement here - I thought this
>explanation was kind of nice!

HAHAHA

>
>Sy
>
>-- 
>Simon N. McIntosh-Smith, PhD candidate    |  Email : Simon.N.Smith@cm.cf.ac.uk
>Department of Computing Mathematics,      |  Phone : +44 (0)222 874000
>University of Wales, College of Cardiff,  |  Fax   : +44 (0)222 666182
>Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom            |

Lucky you are not a physics PhD canidate. :-)

Dan Shoham (Math PhD)
shoham@ll.mit.edu