From: dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: My Reply to Adil Seikh (Re: 3 BJP Govts. dismissed).
Date: 19 Dec 92 16:23:00 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Dec19.112821.11053@cc.uow.edu.au>, g9221069@cc.uow.edu.au (manik gupta) writes:
> dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>>........(deleted).......
>
> Same Rajiv Gandhi who appeased the Hindus by opening the gate of mosque for
> hindus to pray the idole which was smuggled in the mosuque in 1952.
>

 Nowhere did I praise Rajiv. What I choose to write and what I know are quite
 and can be quite different.
 
>
> and started disobeying the SC order.
>

  That everybody knows. Just don't repeat the obvious to show how stupid you
  are. (I hope that you have understood the meaning of the word 'cliche').
 
>  
> This is must but wait a moment.
>

  No this issue has been waiting for years - probably centuries.
 
> When people talk about equality they talk about Uniform Civil Code and do not
> link it with Reservation. Both the things are interlinked if people( or
> political parties) talk about the word "Equality or Uniform".

 I am of the opinion that there should be one single set of laws that will
 govern both Muslims and all the rest. This can only happen if there are less
 and less morons like yourself - who are almost willing to sell India to a
 bunch of terrorists like JKLF - aided by Pakistan.

> The same Ammanullah Khan was detained by Pakistani Govt. for crossing
> the man made borders which divides the Kahsmiri house.

  S-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O ????????????????????????????????????

  The action was taken *after* James Baker III sent a strongly worded letter
  to Mian Nawaz Sharif complaining that Pakistan has been advocating 
  International Terrorism in Kashmir and thus Sharif did take this act just
  as a token - to appease the American Govt. We (Indians), excluding yourself,
  all know that this was just a ploy of the GOP. (Basically this was a got-up
  case.) Actually, I am of the opinion that PVNR should expel memnbers of the
  Jamat-e-Islam, because they openly advocated secession of India. This is
  a perfectly consistent with the recent expulsion of 400 Arabs by Israel. FYI,
  India is extremely humane in allowing the confirmed secessionists to live
  within the confines of India. *NO* other civilized country would have done
  that. RSS, VHP, BJP could be (??????) fundamentalist Hindu groups. But these
  groups do not take the help of Indian Govt. to *actively* destabilize the
  other countries - as does Jammat-i-Islam. Therefore, the same argument will
  *not* apply to RSS, BJP, VHP etc. (Even your 'home country' Pakistan does
  not complain about such allegations.) The kindness of *all* Indian PM's
  towards secessionists (Jammat-i-Islam, JKLF) etc. are unparalleled. BTW, even
  Mian Sharif (PM of Pakistan) would applaud such bounty. 
> 
> Let it be left  to UN resolution. Nothing more and nothing less.

  The UN resolution will *only* work *IFF* the displaced Hindus from Kashmir
  are *properly* rehabilitated in their ancestral homes in POK. Then, yes
  I would agree to what you are saying. Not before that.

> 
> There is no truth in your sentence. Althought PAkistani Govt has declared
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  MAN, WHERE DO YOU LIVE ? IN THE DEEP FORESTS OF THE GOD-FORSAKEN CIVILIZATION
  OR WHAT ? FYI, WHAT I QUOTED ABOVE WAS DIRECTLY TAKEN FROM THE NYT ARTICLE
  ON 22ND NOV. AND 11TH DEC. BY ED. GARGAN. ARE YOU TRYING TO CHALLENGE THE
  CREDIBILITY OF NYT, USING THE USELESS BIOLOGICAL ORGAN ABOVE YOUR SHOULDERS ?

  ARE YOU REALLY OF HUMAN ORIGIN ? I AM REALLY BEGINING TO DOUBT YOUR 
  ANCESTRY !!!!
 
> to rebuild all temples and pay for all the affected Hindu Families.
  
 LET'S SEE WHEN THAT HAPPENS ! O.K ????
> 
> And look what Indian Police did. They killed the people who came to the 
> street to protest the Demolition of the mosque (and the disobeyance of
> SC order). The same police did not do anything at Ayodhya where the 
> "INDIAN CONSTITUTION" was disobeyed by the majority community on 6th Dec.
>
  Yes, the Indian police did such a thing. I agree.
 
> 
> Same Aurangzeb whoes ancestoral link is with Rani Jodha Bai.
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
              (sp. ? and grammar ???)

 That does in no way indicate Aurangzeb was *not* a tyrant; just as Allauddin
 Khilji was a rapist of Hindu women. (In fact, the Rajasthani folklore has
 a story where it is said that Khilji used to have sex with his daughters as
 a gratification to his carnal desires.) BTW, Khilji was a Muslim - follower
 of Al-Islam. Granted the above is true, is it credible to accuse Islam ??????
 No ! It is Khilji. Being a Muslim does not automatically imply that he/ she
 will be morally perfect. The same type of logic applies to your mindless
 prattle.


>
> It is a fundamentalist country and not a secular. Why should India ( a
> secular state at least on paper) be compared with Pakistan (a fundamentalist
> state)?
>

  Yes, here you are right. It is a country where a minority (120 million)
  is 'ruling' the majority. No other religious minority gets so much coaxing
  and petting from the Govt. This should be abandoned. It is just like saying
  " ask him for dinner and he will go out looting your home ".
 

> At last I found a bad word in your posting. I know you are very fond of it.
> But now a days frequency of bad words has decreased.

 Actually, the word "rascal" is *not* a bad word here in Lawrence, Kansas. I
 have choicest abuses for (p)secular apologists/ pro-secessionists as you. If
 you want, (put a request on the SCI, please), then I can post them for your
 kind perusal. I think ungrateful people like yourself need to be abused.

 BTW, I think that since you are in a unheard University as " Wong-Gong ???",
 you have developed a lighter skin for "abusive" words. The tresspasser is
 always wary.

> 
> Indirectly, you mean Sikh, Muslims and Christans should either go to Pakistan
> or join the movement for Khalistan and other countries.
>

  No I use direct mode of action *when I choose to*. Christians have never
  been a problem. The political problem of Sikhs was a mistake of Mrs.Gandhi.
  BTW, are you trying to gather minority support by attempting to see more
  in-between the lines ????? Let me assert:

  INDIA, FOR THAT MATTER ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRTY, *MUST* ABOLISH ANY
  SECESSIONIST PARTY AND OR EXPEL ITS PARTY MEMBERS AND CONFISCATE ALL
  THE PROPERTIES/ SEIZE ALL ASSETS. THIS SHOULD BE IN LINE WITH THE 
  PRAGMATIC POLICIES OF ISRAEL - AS IT HAS DONE IN THE RECENT PAST.
   

> Why only these two things? What about banning all kind of Reservations?

  Only two things because the effective rule is: "One step at a time". The
  two must be implemented compulsively. 
> 
> Where is your "Equality" point? 
> 

 It automatically follows after JKLF forces have been *brutally* crushed by
 GOI - much to your chagrin, eh ? 8-)
> 
> 
> Bye
> Adil
> 
> 


    - stay alive,

       deb chatterjee
    (a good samaritan)

   P.S: BTW, Adil Gujju JKLF Seikh, how did your English improve so much !!!!
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