HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nishith A. Patel)
Subject: Re: Does VESA Local Bus put a huge strain on a CPU?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:51:12 GMT

mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>Well, if you're only concerned about speeding up video, then you're
>right.  EISA isn't the way to go.  In fact, under DOS EISA is a waste
>of money.  It's practically impossible to saturate the ISA bus under
>DOS anyway.  Of course, you could always buy an EISA video board (VERY
>expensive) or get a coprocessed board (so you send it 100k of
>instructions and it produces a 1M image -- also more expensive than a
>dumb frame buffer).  All local bus does is save you a little money on
>the add-in cards.  What do you do when someone comes up with a better
>coprocessed board and you're suddenly slower again?

Well, that was one of the earlier points of this thread. Coprocessed cards
are not very helpful in certain situations. They speed up text-scrolling and
other graphics-intensive operations, but are only a solution for some things. 
If you are sending data a window or screen to be displayed, a coprocessor
on the card will do you no good. The card will still get the information 
at a snail's pace on ISA, and there is not much to process. Just throw the
info out to get an image. So as you open a window, close a window, whatever,
It is still slow.

AND, because of the work involved in going through the driver and processor
(and in some cases from the accelerator to the VGA card), instead of just sending out the info, if you are doing something like throwing images out, some
coprocessed cards actually slow things way down compared to dumb VGA. Another
example, multimedia. say you are doing animation, paging screens. Dumb VGA
is going to go way too slow because of ISA, and coprocessed cards wont do any
better, with the possibility of doing worse.
Let's bring the Amiga back in. It can do certain things faster than ISA
computers because it does not have such a huge bottleneck. 

I do not mean to belabor this, but I am just trying to say coprocessed cars
are not an end-all solution. If you really want it, get an LB card that is
also coprocessed.


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: c9e-aw@volga (Claudio Fahey)
Subject: OS/2 full screen out of sync after SP
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:43:32 GMT

I just installed the service pack and I'm having one problem.
I installed the ET4000 1024x768x256 driver through Selective
Install.  After I rebooted, it put the video card in interlaced mode.
I read a message on here about how to set it to non-interlaced
mode.  I opened a full screen DOS session, typed SVGA OFF, ran
the STB setmode program to put the card in 65mhz ( non-interlaced )
mode, then typed SVGA ON.  Now the WPS comes up in non-interlaced
mode.  However, now when I start an OS/2 Full Screen session, the
screen goes out of sync.  I can tell I'm at the prompt, though.
If I start a full screen DOS program through the OS/2 command
prompt and then exit from the DOS program, the OS/2 command
prompt will be in sync.  Does anybody know how to fix this
problem?

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: install ET4000 driver
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 10:23:23 GMT

Daniel Tran (DTRAN@emelnitz.ucla.edu) wrote:
> 
> >Hi!  What is the CORRECT way to install ET4000 driver? use DPINSTAL from
> >os2/ OR SELECTIVE INSTALL? 
> >
> >Thanks
> 
> Do it from DPinstal.  This is the only to get it to work.  The new driver 
> works but very slow in 800x600x256.  Color palletes is wrong in seamless 
> windows, if you start a DOS full screen then run windows the palletes is 
> correct.

NO! Use selective install. Dpinstall gets the fonts slightly wrong and
notebook tabs are transparent. When it asks for disk #n put in your GA
disks (for fonts) and when it asks for display driver disks, use the SPP
disks.

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jlu@reagan.cs.umr.edu ( Eric Jui-Lin Lu )
Subject: Re: DOS *VERY* unstable after CSD
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:48:47 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

In article <1992Nov7.084101.12964@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis) writes:
>
>Me, too!  Since I installed the SP, Alt-Home does not switch between
>FS and Windowed for MS-Kermit sometimes.  I have not (yet) had any
>problems with other DOS software.  I wonder if this problem affects
>only DOS sessions running a communications app.
>

Just a thought.  Have you checked your comm port by "mode com?"?
Have you checked to see if COM.SYS and VCOM.SYS are included in
your config.sys?  After I installed SP, the new config.sys does
not include COM.SYS and VCOM.SYS which caused some wierd problem.
After putting these two lines or re-install by choosing serial
device support in selective install, everything works again.


  --Eric

-- 
***************************************---       Grad. student          ---*
* Obviousness is always the enemy of  *   \     Jui-Lin Lu (Eric)      /   *
* correctness.  -- Bertrand Russell   *   /      jlu@cs.umr.edu        \   *
***************************************---   Univ. of Missouri-Rolla    ---*
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: RAM speed
Date: 7 Nov 92 16:21:52 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc

In <1992Nov6.164208.2165@novell.com> lkawecki@novell.com (Lewis Kawecki) writes:

>I am having a boot problem with the new GA that may be linked to memory.
>I have 8 Megs of 70 nsec memory; yet, 4 are 9 chip simms and 4 are 3 chip simms.
>About half of the time when I boot I get a trap 000D or trap 0006 at
>location ##0160:...

>Earlier someone mentioned that location 0160 most likely refered to a memory
>problem.
>Is any one else having problem with different types of simms at the same speed?
>Does anyone know what trap d and 6 mean.

I don't know why it is, but I have heard of a number of people having
memory problems after mixing SIMM types.  It would appear that the
electrical characteristics of the two kinds of chips are just enough
different to cause problems with programs that heavily exercise the
memory and are sensitive to timing quirks (UNIX, OS/2, Windows 3.1 -
in about that order from most sensitive to least).  After all, there
are a number of other memory characteristics besides 'cycle time' that
could affect your timing.  For example, Sun recommends against using
3rd party memory on some (but only some) of their machines because it
doesn't match Sun memory in one characteristic (exact name slips my
mind -- EEC discharge time, or something like that), even if the
memory itself is the same speed.  Apparently some Sun motherboards are
running tight enough timing that this slight difference can cause
memory errors.

-- 
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.
From: tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: New beta HP DeskJet printer drivers!
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:54:56 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

pdc@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Paul Close) writes:

>Todd Henderson (tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu) writes:
>>
>>5.  Overall, I applaud(sp??) the new drivers.  They seem to be stable and
>>    have improved the black printing tremendously.  Anyone who has a DeskJet
>>    would probably be well served to get the beta drivers.  They make me 
>>    believe that IBM is listening to the net and the concerns of the users
>>    because this was a weak point for many of us.

>How have they improved the (black) printing tremendously?  I was using the
>Epson EPL-6000 drivers, and I switched to the DeskJet drivers (DeskJet
>Plus).  I didn't notice much difference.  They might be a bit faster, but
>they still don't use any predefined fonts or font cartridges!  At least the
>Windows drivers do....

I thought they gave sharper text, maybe a little less smearing than the
Epson EPL-6000 drivers.  These drivers never really seemed to give that
sharp of text or equations for me.(I did use the setup to put it in high
quality)  Does the 550c have a different/better approach to black printing
that may make some of these things more noticable??

Personally I never use the printer fonts or a font cartridge.  I don't want
to pay for them.  I just use ATM.  Probably a little bit slower, but I like
                                              ^^^^^^ maybe a lot, I don't know
the selection of fonts and font sizes with it.  Is there a reason to use
a font cartridge other than speed???

Strictly opinion, and maybe I over did the tremendously a bit.  I am too
excited that IBM is even working on a full functioning 500c/550c driver.

Todd
tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu

>Overall, (to me) they seemed pretty "generic".
>-- 
>Paul Close	     pdc@sgi.com	   ...!{ames, decwrl, uunet}!sgi!pdc

>			No fate but what we make
From: 32coulter@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: ==> How to determine if CSD/SP is right version.
Date: 7 Nov 92 03:16:52 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

  This might help anyone who is as worried as I was about installing the
wrong version of the CSD/Service Pack.  I realize the CSD/SP has been
around for a while, but some of us are just now catching up ! . . .

  If you need to determine what version of the CSD/SP you have downloaded,
or are about to download, do the following (but only if you DON'T KNOW
already):

1) Obtain the first disk of the CSD/SP (if you don't already have it) from
   your favorite ftp site, bbs, friend, or source.  This will probably be
   called spg301.dsk or spg301.zip depending on whether the site has
    zipped the files.  Also obtain the loaddskf.exe program from the
    site.

2)  Unzip the spg301.zip file if necessary.  Once you have the spg301.dsk
    file, use the loaddskf.exe program to create a 3 1/2" diskette.
    (spg501.zip would be the first disk of a 5 1/4" set.)

3)  Once the disk has been created, remove it from the drive and open the
    write-protect window to protect the files on the disk.  Insert the
    disk back into the drive.

4)  Open the Drive A object, then open the root directory folder.  Double-
    click on the file CSF$DISK.  This will open the default editor.  The
    editor will warn that there are null characters in the file.  Continue
    to open the file anyway (this is why write-protecting the disk - in
    case of accident)

5)  When the file opens you will see the version of the CSD/SP.  If it
    says XR06055 you are all set!!  You can continue to download the
    CSD/SP files from your fav site with assurance that you have the
    correct version!!


I hope this helps.

-- James --
32coulter@gw.wmich.edu
From: "richard hajinlian" <richard.hajinlian@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: intel eithernet cards
Date: 8 Nov 92 11:20:22 EST
Reply-To: "richard hajinlian" <richard.hajinlian@channel1.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

Anyone know if the INTEL eithernet card (that is shipped with Workgroup
for Windows) will work with OS/2?  Also, that card (I know almost
nothing
about wiring) has two jacks, a bnc and a d type female plug.  Is that
d plug the thin or thick wire?

Thanks in advance.

Rich.
--
Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA
From: hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: CSD Question! Help!
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:08:01 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

makovsky@scsuc.ctstateu.edu (MAKOFSKY,STEVEN) writes:
>Here's my situation: I have a Diamond Stealth VRAM. Nice card in windows, 
>unfortunatly, no one at Diamond seems to really care about releasing an Os/2
>driver for it. ANYWAYS, while installing the CSD, i noticed a file VESA.EXE
>had been copied over, What I would like to find out if there is any way
>I can use any of the other drivers, since my card is vesa compliant..
>Even 640x480x256 would be great, but would prefer 800x600x256, but, hey, if
>can get anything better than old 640x480x16, ill be happy. Any suggestions
>anyone? I thought this CSD would have alot more in the way of drivers....
>Thanks!

The VESA.EXE is for PS/2 machines; it won't run for you. If you are 
moderately insane, you could try the Orchid S3 drivers for the 
F1280, but I believe that the drivers, even for the right card,
are problematic, and there are differences between the cards.

On the plus side, I notice Diamond's BBS has a poll/questionnaire
about OS/2. No doubt this is to judge demand (gosh, what brain-
dead employee thought this one up?). Given Diamond's attitude,
perhaps people should fill this out a few times each, and get 
the message through that they need to make drivers.

Tom
From: lutz@solace.psych.rochester.edu (Dave Lutz)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: ***HELP*** WPS does NOT start when RE-install GA & IBM hasn't helped!!
Keywords: WPS HELP HELP PLEASE HELP INSTALLATION
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:50:10 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Nov7.183903.10062@athena.mit.edu> andreast@athena.mit.edu (Andreas Turanski) writes:

>All went very normally EXCEPT that after the installation, THE WPS WAS NOT
>RUNNING!!!!! or at least not visibly so.  I eventually got a startup.cmd
>window going, but that was the only thing on screen! NO WPS.  I would click
>on the background with the left mouse button.....NOTHING.  The right mouse
>button....ZIPPO-NADA-NIL.  This started on about monday and since I have

  This seems like an unlikely solution, since you don't mention changing your
config.sys after each install, but...

  The only time this happened to me was when I removed the AUTOSTART line
from my config.sys.  Are you sure that statement is still intact?

  Unfortunately, I don't remember exactly what it is supposed to say. I think
it is something like:

SET AUTOSTART=PROGRAMS,WINDOWS,TASKLIST

Dave Lutz
lutz@psych.rochester.edu
From: Larry.Burns@f3333.n106.z1.fidonet.org (Larry Burns)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Fcbs In Dos Sessions
Date: 8 Nov 92 20:25:02 GMT


 zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood)  asks:

GY>P.s.  Can anyone recommend an excellent book for OS/2 that covers most of 
GY>the things in OS/2 and that is not almost a direct printing of the online
GY>help?

I purchased "Inside OS/2 2.0"  from New Riders Publishing.  It is pretty 
good and has a fairly good section on the history of OS/2.  Another decent
referenc is "OS/2 2.0 Complete - A Practical User's Guide to the OS/2
operating system". from Abacus.

                           - Larry Burns
___
 * MR/2 1.2x NR * OS/2: Bill Gates' worst nightmare!
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: andy@balr.com (Andrew Little)
Subject: DOS Graphics Broke (was: Confusions of OS/2 UPDATES)
Organization: BALR Corporation, Oak Brook, Illinois.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:09:01 GMT

In article <473@bertha.HyperDesk.com> kmacleod@dg-rtp.dg.com (Kenneth Macleod) writes:
>
>One more thing.  By using the tseng drivers I have lost the ability to
>run dos graphics programs in a window.  This is not big deal since
>before they were really slow anyhow. 
>

While I agree that the windowed DOS graphics programs were really
slow, this is a VERY big deal to me.  I write software for industrial
automation, and one of my programs is a DOS graphics (Borland BGI)
program that communicates with a remote industrial controller over
a serial line.  While everything does slow down when windowed
(actually a positive for some testing), I still find it very useful to
window the application while monitoring a process, so that I can do
some other work (look at the code, write documentation, read news,
etc.).  Many of the processes that I am monitoring are very slow
acting, and I can't spare the time to have my machine dedicated to one
task for 2 hours.

I find it unbelievable that using 640x480x16 lets me window my app
(albeit with some color changes), while the "new & improved"
640x480x256 driver does not support this.  As an aside, when I have
tried this, and gotten the "suspended app" message - if I then
CTRL-ESC and select the app, I get a perfect window of the app -
correct colors and all.  Unfortunately, it is suspended.

So, in the end, the CSD has pretty much been a wash for me - can't use
the new drivers, and while I believe that it is an improvement, I
can't really point to anything that is better.

2 steps forward, 1.99 steps back.

Andy Little                     BALR Corporation
andy@balr.com                   Software Solutions in Real Time
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: during install - stops with c0000005
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 00:33:23 GMT

In article <2B040013.3215@ics.uci.edu>, shackelf@madeleine.ics.uci.edu (George Shackelford) writes:
> screen blanks and I get a 'c0000005' in the upper left corner.

Package Name - BVHSVGA       (BVHSVGA.ZIP on NSC BBS)
External Name - BVSVGA.ZIP

APAR PJ03721
Filename        Size         Date       Time
BVHSVGA.DLL     22466        5-15-92    12:26p

The file BVHSVGA.DLL contains fix for this problem:

OEM machines with Western Digital super VGA video that have 1 Mg
of video memory crash after first boot then the C0000005 message
occurs.

-- 
--Darrel Hankerson hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: erzberg@ifi.unizh.ch (Martin Erzberger)
Subject: Re: 256 Color?
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 07:42:49 GMT


In article <1992Nov7.112100.2537@dragon.acadiau.ca>, 880506s@dragon.acadiau.ca (James R. Skinner) writes:
> gouvea@zariski.harvard.edu (Fernando Gouvea) writes:
> 
> >I tried imshow.exe with the Tseng 1024X768X256 drivers, and the palette
> >seems all messed up. The bitmaps don't like one bit as they do if I put
> >them on the desktop background...
> 
> Ditto for the 8514 drivers...
> 
The 8514/A driver doesn't have a palette manager implemented. IMSHOW
tries to load the picture the 'old way', i.e. with the default 256
physical colors of the device driver. The colors get mapped on a 
'best fit' base. So what one should get on a 8514 (and what I do get
on my 8514 at home) is not a completely messed up picture, but a 
picture with looks in a way similiar to the original one.
If the picture is completely messed up (i.e. every pixel seems to
be in a wrong color), then the picture gets loaded as if it could be
realized, but then somehow the 'realize palette' step fails. The pixels
then point somewhere into the default physical palette and the picture
looks completely wrong. Since I don't have a Tseng video card, it is
difficult to debug this problem.
Regards, Martin Erzberger

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mikel@networx.com (Mike Lempriere)
Subject: Re: Logitech mouse driver?
Organization: NetWorx
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:08:57 GMT

Thomas Wong (twong@civil.ubc.ca) wrote:
: 
: Hello everyone. I was wondering if there is a Logitech Mouse Driver
: available for OS/2 2.0. Reason I ask is because right now, I have a bus
[stuff deleted]

I'm using a Logitech C7 on my OS/2 system at home right now, it works fine.
I believe there was a Logitech option at install time.  If not, just use
the Visi-On option -- the manual for the Logitech C7 says specifically that
it is 100% compatible with Visi-On.

Mail at me if you need the specific CONFIG.SYS parms, I can get them from
the home machine if you needd them.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: x27@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (T. Voelkering)
Subject: Mouse at PS/2 70 
Organization: University of Heidelberg (Germany)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 11:51:42 GMT

Hello

Does anybody know, how to install a serial MS-compatible mouse at one of
those dammned, fuc%$^&*@@## Mod 70  at the serial COM1 port??

(how I like my clones !!!)

Thanx in advance

Thomas

-- 


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	Thomas Voelkering		email
From: x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: ARG! I'm DOOMED! HELP ME!
Date: 7 Nov 92 18:48:28 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University


	Okay, weird problem here and I need a solution as soon
as possible!

	I got a Diamond Speedstar 24x and THOUGHT that it used
the tseng chipset.  After tuning it fro awhile, it finally would
boot to os/2 with a blank black screen with the cursor at the
top left corner.
	The weird part is, I no longer hav ethe speedstar but
a generic tseng card.  But the problem remains.  

	What I want to do is to find a way to get back into os/2.
How can I install the vga video drivers (or any video drivers that
will let os/2 boot again)?
	Someone mentioned a setmode or something like that.

	PLEASE help!

						-Brad
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: CSD Selective Install of Tseng Drivers
Date: 5 Nov 92 08:54:41 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1d3tsdINNph6@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> jms20@po.CWRU.Edu (John M. Sully) writes:
>How do you get the Selective install process to ask you what kind
>of video drivers to install.  I saw the post a while back saying that 
>Tseng 4000 drivers should be installed using the selective install, but 
>I can't figure out how to do this.  Could some kind soul please e-mail
>me some instructions.

Don't use selective install.  Run the program
\os2\install\dspinstl.exe.  This program (PM based) will detect your
hardware and then ask you which driver to install.  Pick the TSENG
driver.  The system will check you out, and then ask which resolution
you want (640x480, 800x600, 1024x768).  All are 256 color modes and
all have seamless windows drivers.
-- 
David Charlap         |"there aren't 50,000 things for which it's worth writing
dic5340@hertz.njit.edu| software; and the computer industry doesn't have enough
----------------------+ programmers to create that much good software.
Therefore, most of it must be worthless" -- Boris Beizer "The Frozen Keyboard"
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: procomm.zip--DOS patch for PCPLUS v2.01 for what?
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:28:38 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Nov5.093428.1975@news.Hawaii.Edu> low@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Hock-leong Low) writes:
>
>I was browsing at the LUGA ftp site, and I came across a procomm.zip
>file in the DOS/PATCHES directory.  The INDEX file documents it as
>a patch to PCPLUS v2.01--doesn't mention what for.  I'm using DOS
>PCPLUS, and I'm wondering if this patch would boost comm performance
>in OS/2 2.0.

Probably not.  You may want the archive anyway, though.  It contains
many patches for a variety of features/bugs in PCPLUS 2.01.  The
patches are text files with comments at the top of each, so you cna
read them and install the ones you want.  The program to apply the
patches ships with PCPLUS, I forget the name, but it's not hard to
find.

The most convenient patch was the one to disable the ^] function.
This key used to toggle the status line on and off (I think).  With
the patch, it sends ASCII 29, which is the break character for Telnet
session.  Very useful.

There is also one to disable the mouse in each of the PCPLUS programs.


-- 
David Charlap         |"there aren't 50,000 things for which it's worth writing
dic5340@hertz.njit.edu| software; and the computer industry doesn't have enough
----------------------+ programmers to create that much good software.
Therefore, most of it must be worthless" -- Boris Beizer "The Frozen Keyboard"
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