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From: mjk@icf.hrb.com (Michael J. Kelley)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: Bottle Caps / Beer Cans
Date: 6 Jan 93 04:06:35 EST
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.

People from the south or west coast, I can get bottle caps or cans that 
would be unique to Pennsylvania if anybody might be interested. Brands such as 
Rolling Rock, Straub, Genesse and Iron City to name a few.  


                                                              Mike Kelley
                                                              St. College, Pa.

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From: glenn@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Glenn)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: Re: RECORDS: Determining value
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:37:51 GMT
Reply-To: glenn@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Glenn)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.collecting, ashe@royalt.enet.dec.com writes:
>My girlfriend just recently rescued some records from her grandmother destined
>for the scrap heap.
>
>Among them were a bunch of 45's (from the Shirelles, to Little Richard, to
>the Beatles, O'Jays, Supremes, etc...) and Albums, Jackson 5, Dionne Warwick,
>Supremes, etc...
>
>How do I find out their value?  What's the best way to try to restore them?
>
>-Walt

There are plenty of price guides available for records. However, common
records are practically worthless unless they are in excellent condition.
As far as I know, they cannot be restored. But a little soap and water
doesn't hurt them at all. In fact it cleans the dirt out of the grooves
and gives the vinyl a nice shine. Try to keep the labels dry, though
they usually are not damaged by a little water.

The Beatles stuff and Little Richard are probably worth alot in good
condition, but I don't think the other stuff is.
From: clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: 70 Elvis stamps sold prematurely
Date: 5 Jan 93 05:32:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.C0D8q6.F9.1
Reply-To: clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Originator: clamen@BYRON.SP.CS.CMU.EDU


I really hate to get involved with all this Elvis hoopla, but this is
a real philately question

Apparently a post office in Texas, having not received the
instructions to not being selling Elvis stamps (the new 29c
commerative issue that comes out officially on Friday, Jan. 8), sold
70 stamps to a recent widow.

My question is: will Elvis stamps bearing a postmark earlier than
January 8 end up being more valuable?

--
Stewart M. Clamen			Internet:    clamen@cs.cmu.edu
School of Computer Science		UUCP: 	     uunet!"clamen@cs.cmu.edu"
Carnegie Mellon University		Phone: 	     +1 412 268 2145
5000 Forbes Avenue			Fax:	     +1 412 681 5739
Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3891, USA
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
From: schmid@herring.micro.umn.edu (stephen schmid)
Subject: CARDS: Baseball, Rookies and Stars
Organization: University of Minnesota CIS
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:13:32 GMT

Here is a list for sale - have others not listed
Year   Brand     Player             Beckett Hi   MY-PRICE    Condition
*******************************************************************************
1990   Leaf      G.Olson(P)         $1.50        $1.00
 "      "        Benes              $3.00        $2.00
 "      "        Rob.Alomar         $6.50        $5.50
 "      "        E.Anthony          $2.00        $1.50
 "      "        Grissom            $6.50        $5.50
 "      "        Grace              $1.75        $1.25
 "      "        Sheffield          $16.00       $12.00
 "      "        Belle              $9.00        $7.00
 "      "        Deshields          $6.50        $5.50
 "      "        Ben MacDonald      $4.00        $3.50
 "      "        D.Justice          $24.00       $20.00
 "      "        E. Martinez        $2.50        $1.50
 "      "        F.Thomas           $55.00       $50.00    (PERFECT!!!)
 "      "        Larry Walker       $7.50        $6.00
 "      "        D.Sanders          $7.50        $6.00
 "      "        Baerga             $9.00        $7.00
 "      "        Chris Hoiles       $3.00        $2.25
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1990 Upper Deck  Mar.Grissom        $2.00        $1.25
 "      "        D.Sanders          $2.00        $1.25
 "      "        R.Ventura          $2.50        $1.50
 "      "        Ben MacDonald      $1.50        $1.00
 "      "        Steve Avery        $2.50        $1.50
 "      "        Juan Gonzalez      $8.00        $6.00
 "      "        Ken Griffey, Jr.   $4.00        $2.50
 "      "        Cal Ripken, Jr.    $1.25        $0.75
 "      "        Rob.Alomar         $1.25        $0.75
 "      "        "Joey" Belle       $1.75        $1.25
 "      "        Larry Walker       $2.50        $1.75
 "      "        David Justice      $5.50        $3.50
 "      "        Carlos Baerga      $3.00        $2.00

ALL '90 UD listed for ONLY $23 (Book value = $37.75)
_______________________________________________________________________________
1989 Upper Deck  Ken Griffey, Jr.   $55.00       $43.00
 "      "        Gary Sheffield     $12.00       $8.00
 "      "        Ron Gant           $2.00        $1.00
 "      "        Brady Anderson     $1.75        $1.25
 "      "        Rob. Alomar        $5.00        $3.50
 "      "        Cal Ripken, Jr.    $2.50        $1.50
 "      "        Nolan Ryan (3x)    $4.00        $2.50
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------1987    Topps    Vending Caes (Wax Boxes)  only -> $250.00!! 

- I pay for postage
- Satisfaction guaranteed
- Have multiples of many that are listed
- all in NrMt-Mt condition unless noted
- have others not listed
- email at schmid@flounder.micro.umn.edu
- some price negotiable 
Steve Schmid
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: TOPPS ROOKIES BROWNS
From: bakers@kenyon.edu
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:49:20 -0500
Organization: Kenyon College

I AM LOOKING FOR TOPPS ROOKIE CARDS FOR 
CLAY MATTHEWS [BROWNS]
BERNIE KOSAR  [BROWNS

SEND QUALITY AND PRICE TO BAKERS
From: bkr24@cas.org (Keith Rose)
Subject: I need a description of the Troi action figure by Playmates
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:13:25 GMT

The local Star Trek merchandise store has said that they will be getting some
Troi figures by Playmates in the near future, but said that they would be
pricey ($30-$40).  I asked them why, and they said that only a small number
were shipped before Marina Sirtis had the rest recalled, presumably because
she didn't like how they looked.

Now I have read reports here from people who have recently bought them in
stores, and I would like someone to mail me a description of the figure you
bought.  Did it match the picture of the Troi figure depicted on the backs of
the packages of the rest of the figures?  What was the number on your figure?
(The store people said that only ~3000 were released.)

I have searched many local retail stores (Toys 'R' Us, K-Mart, Wal-Mart) with
no luck, so if anybody is willing to sell one to me, I would be grateful.
--
Keith Rose (bkr24@cas.org)
From: dik@cwi.nl (Dik T. Winter)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: Re: RECORDS: Determining value
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:14:57 GMT
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam

In article <29435@oasys.dt.navy.mil> glenn@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Glenn) writes:
 > In rec.collecting, ashe@royalt.enet.dec.com writes:
 > >My girlfriend just recently rescued some records from her grandmother destined
 > >for the scrap heap.
 > >
 > >Among them were a bunch of 45's (from the Shirelles, to Little Richard, to
 > >the Beatles, O'Jays, Supremes, etc...) and Albums, Jackson 5, Dionne Warwick,
 > >Supremes, etc...
 > >
 > The Beatles stuff and Little Richard are probably worth alot in good
 > condition, but I don't think the other stuff is.

You never know.  This is an international network and some of those records
may never have made it out of the US!  From what I see it appears to be
seventies stuff.  You could post a list and see what happens (but try
the appropriate rec.music too, that is where you really will find the
collectors of this stuff).
-- 
dik t. winter, cwi, kruislaan 413, 1098 sj  amsterdam, nederland
home: bovenover 215, 1025 jn  amsterdam, nederland; e-mail: dik@cwi.nl
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
From: sga@cray.com (Steven G. Anderson)
Subject: Re: 70 Elvis stamps sold prematurely
Reply-To: sga@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 5 Jan 93 09:33:49 CST

In article 1@cs.cmu.edu, clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen) writes:
>
>I really hate to get involved with all this Elvis hoopla, but this is
>a real philately question
>
>Apparently a post office in Texas, having not received the
>instructions to not being selling Elvis stamps (the new 29c
>commerative issue that comes out officially on Friday, Jan. 8), sold
>70 stamps to a recent widow.
>
>My question is: will Elvis stamps bearing a postmark earlier than
>January 8 end up being more valuable?
>
No.  This is a very common occurance in the USPS these days.  Some stamps have been
used 2 or 3 months before the official release date.  The new PMG has his hands
full trying to get better communications with his PO's.

Steve Anderson
Cray Research, Inc
Eagan, MN
sga@cray.com
From: lim@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Lloyd Lim)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: Re: Coin collecters?
Date: 6 Jan 93 10:49:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of California, Davis

In article <1993Jan5.194502.6873@samba.oit.unc.edu> Tom.Hazen@launchpad.unc.edu (thomas hazen) writes:
>
>Are there any coin collectors in this group?  Are there any other groups
>or bbs where they can be found?

This is the place.  There isn't a whole lot of discussion, but you can
find some collectors (both low end and high end) to buy/sell/trade with.

There's also a mailing list that someone told me about not too long ago:
coins@rocky.er.usgs.gov.  It is not automated; I forget who to ask to
subscribe.  I haven't read enough to know how it's going.

Aside from Internet, CompuServe's forum is pretty active - at least
one auction a week, a library of files, a good number of messages, and an
online meeting every Monday.  They also tend to be more knowledgeable,
higher end collectors and dealers, including a few big names.  However,
you must get an automated program or it gets rather expensive.

America Online is just plain dead; not enough activity.  From what I hear,
Prodigy is cheap, has good activity, but no files, less knowledgeable
collectors, and of course, those annoying ads flashing in your face.

I've also heard of the Numisnet BBS.  Can anyone tell us more about it?

+++
Lloyd Lim                    Internet: lim@cs.ucdavis.edu
Lim Unlimited                America Online: LimUnltd
330 W. Iris Ave.             AppleLink: LimUnltd
Stockton, CA  95210-3738     CompuServe: 72647,660
From: kopfj@bert.Tymnet.COM (John Kopf,D,6305)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: Re: Does it BUG you?  If so, why so?
Date: 5 Jan 93 00:00:30 GMT
Reply-To: kopfj@bert.Tymnet.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems

I don't collect stamps or cards, I do collect coins (ancient only!).

I don't object to collecting cards -- I DO, however, find it a nuisance to go through
the news searching for the 1 out of 4 that are not for cards.

I agree that sub-groups that overwhelm a "general" topic should consider spliting off
into a seperate specific-topic.

John
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: kevin@dipl.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Kevin Anderson)
Subject: Re: Music at Public Skating Sessions
Summary: xxx
Keywords: xxx
Reply-To: kevin@dipl.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 17:53:51 GMT

fc03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Frederick W. Chapman) writes:

>I enjoy skating to danceable music much more than skating to any old
>thing.  I am curious to know how other ice and roller rinks around the
>country handle their public skating sessions -- whether they play
>certain kinds of music, etc.  I think that my rink is missing the boat
>by not making a modest effort to choose decent music for public
>skaters (and I will probably make a suggestion to the owner).

I agree that the music they play at roller rinks is better than the 
stuff they usually play at ice rinks.   The exception would be mall
rinks (particulary on Fridays and Saturdays) which usually have more
invested in sound and lighting systems.

At the rink I skate at there are a lot of figure skaters at the public
sessions, so they play a lot of (mostly very boring) program and ice dance music.  
I've been playing with the idea of making a tape at home of some decent
music and trying to slip it in when nobody is using the system.  The worst
they could do is turn it off.  

Kevin Anderson  

Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: debrm@iastate.edu (D Reed-Margetan)
Subject: Lillehammer (sp?) Figure Skating
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: rec.skate
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:29:40 GMT

I read today in the sports pages that Katarina Witt intends to compete in the
1994 Olympics.  Does she have enough triples in her jump vocabulary to make a
respectable showing?  I seem to recall that she once could perform triple toe loops,
salchows, and flips.  Lately, I've only spotted her performing the triple toe loop.
I know Nancy Kerrigan can do triple toe loops, lutzes, flips, salchows, and loops.
Plus, like many of the other ladies, she does triple-triple combinations -- which I
don't think Katarina Witt has ever done.   On the other hand, K.W. certainly has
poise and doesn't mess up in competition very often.

Has anyone heard how the USFSA is going to handle our "reinstated" amateurs?  I
assume that they will have to compete at Nationals in order to qualify for
Worlds and the Olympics.  Will Brian Boitano once again be U.S. Champion?
From: aboulang@bbn.com (Albert Boulanger)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Tradmarks in footwork
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:51:28 GMT
Reply-To: aboulanger@bbn.com
Distribution: na
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: kariba.bbn.com
In-reply-to: kewasiel@unix.amherst.edu's message of Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:33:04 GMT

In article <C0q1v5.41v@unix.amherst.edu> kewasiel@unix.amherst.edu (They call me Ren) writes:


   well, a favorite "trademark" for me has been something that i *think* came
   from dorethy hamil, and involves a spread-eagle into a double axel into a 
   spread-eagle.  it's fun, and it looks neat too!  (okay, i admit i use a single
   axel....)  
   is that what you were asking about?

Yes. It does not even have to include "major" elements like spins or
jumps even! Lets hear some more. I will explain a bit about a "jump" I
"invented". Think of doing a spread eagle. Now spring out of the
spread eagle position into a jump for 1 rev back into a spread eagle.
Very unconventional positions for landing and take-off but it works. I
first did this on quad roller skates. Then, I can tell you about is the
"triangle step", "inverted" crazy legs, moon walk, various sideways footwork,
etc. Come on, let us hear about your innovations.


Anxious to learn,
Albert Boulanger
aboulanger@bbn.com
From: barb@ufycorp.Unify.Com (Barbara Kane)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Favorite Skater
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:03:57 GMT
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization

I know I'll catch flack for this, but my favorite skater is Chris Bowman.
He's inconsistent, yes, but when he's on he's fantastic.  My favorite part
of skating is the athletism, but there should be a nice blend.

  Here's my list:

Men:  Chris Bowman - I also enjoy watching Mark Mitchell & Paul Wylie
Women:  Roslyn Sumner (sp?) hands down.  Kristi Yamaguchi is undeniably
      terrific in her own right, but I think she's still got a ways to go
      in expression.
Pairs:  Bressuer & Eissler (sp?)
Ice Dancing:  Klimova & Ponomoranko (sp?) - is there anyone else?  Hey,
      the Dueschenes (sp???) are great, but they just don't compare.


Barbara Kane                                             Unify Corporation
From: cfb@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Charlie Brett)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 20:07:38 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Wheel lore (skating floors)
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: rec.skate

In rec.skate, aboulang@bbn.com (Albert Boulanger) writes:

    The way I view it is that on the softer wheels (or rebound) on is
    putting work into rolling a distorting wheel.

I read in a physics reference that the "wheel" is constantly trying
to go up a hill. But don't forget, you are putting energy into the wheel
as the front of the wheel is compressed, and the wheel is returning energy
as the rear of the wheel is de-compressed (you push the wheel, the wheel
pushes you). The difference is the loss do to the internal friction and
becomes heat. Gotta maintain that conservation of enery rule.

               Charlie Brett - Ft. Collins, CO
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: broder@src.dec.com (Andrei Broder)
Subject: Gretzky Euro-rail - any good?
Reply-To: broder@src.dec.com
Organization: DEC Systems Research Center
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 01:13:08 GMT

A local discount store sells Gretzky Euro-rail in-line skates for
$100.00 .  I am a total beginner skater, so speed/acrobatics/etc
performance is not an issue, but I don't want to buy junk I will be
unhappy with in three months.  So any informed opinions about these
skates?  Is this a good price?

Here are some specs:

Koflach boot, open pore liner, light weight polymer shell, three buckle 
closure, buckles are tied to velcro straps.

ABEC 1 bearings.

72.5mm wheels, 78A, spoked hubs.

Light weight frame of reinforced Vandar (whatever this is :-) with
adjustable rocker.

Many thanks,

- Andrei
From: icedance@carson.u.washington.edu (Ann Schmidt)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: xxx
Date: 12 Jan 1993 19:42:42 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu
Keywords: xxx

In article <1993Jan12.174556.25785@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> kevin@dipl.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
>I'm suprised nobody has mentioned them yet, but the Russian
>ice dancers that were on "Evening with Champions" on PBS a couple
>of nights ago are hands down the best ice dancers I've ever 
>seen.  Somebody out there needs to help me with their names (I
>can never remember the names of the Russians because I can never
>pronounce them!)  The man's name was Sergie something.  They previewed

Marina Klimova and Sergie Ponomarenko


>a new routine on the PBS show that started out with him hauling 
>her around the ice with this long black cloth.  These are the guys
>who always win first place by a mile in whatever competition they
>are in.

I also thought that this was a _wonderful_ dance.  Watching them always
inspires me to go try new things and improve what I already know how to do.

Ann
From: iceskate@leland.Stanford.EDU ( Lin)
Subject: Professional Ice Skating
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 22:55:12 GMT


	Does anybody have any comments (reviews?) about the Durasoft 
Professional Champions?  I am speaking of the one in which Paul Wylie got
first place (I'm interested in comments from all four categories though, not
just the men's).  I didn't have access to a computer for three weeks and mossed
whatever was posted, if there were any.  Please email me anything that you
have to say about the competition, including when they'll be shown on TV.\
			Thanks a lot.
			Alex

Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: vs55212@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Venus Sinn )
Subject: Re: Favorite Skater
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:24:46 GMT

icedance@carson.u.washington.edu (Ann Schmidt) writes:

>My favorite 'up and coming' skater is Nicole Bobek.  I saw her most
>recently on this years 'Evening of Championship Skating' on PBS and was
>very impressed with her technical and artistic ablilties (and she's only 15).




I don't think Nicole Bobek is only 15. I think she is around 20.  I also think
that her technical abilities are efficient enough to compete with all the top
skaters in the US.  Everytime I see her skate, she doubles out all of her triplejumps!



Venus
From: ck10322@china.medtronic.com (Cameron Kaszas)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Favorite Skater
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:41:18 GMT
Organization: Medtronic, Inc., Minneapolis, MN

---------------------

My favorite skater(s):

Scott Hamilton:
  He is 3 years older than me and still doing triples.
  Talk about an inspiration!  I really think that it is
  due to him that professional skating is where it is
  today.  Stars on Ice was one of the first shows 
  that let the skaters control their own careers, and
  that pushed them to keep improving (and of course
  Scott was the best for them).  I think that he has 
  done more to popularize figure skating than anyone.

Paul Wylie
  I'm so glad to see that he is FINALLY getting the
  recognition he deserves.  He has been skating at 
  this level for years and always getting the short
  end of the stick.  I know that he had considered 
  quitting a couple of times.  I think that he was
  mature enough to realize that the judges should not
  control his attitude toward skating, and he also
  never quit believing in his own abilities.  It finally
  paid off, and I think that he appreciates the fame
  now more than many who get it too fast.  A lot of
  people who have been around skating for awhile are not
  a bit surprised!

  (My claim to fame is that I competed against Paul
  in 1976 Midwesterns in Intermediate Men.  I was 14,
  and he must have been about 10-11.  I remember he was
  really small :) 

Robin Cousins
  Though he hasn't had the impact on the sport that
  Hamilton has (IMHO), he has always been my favorite
  skater to watch.  His camel spins are flawless (in 
  both directions)!  When the first professional
  competitions started to happen, he beat Scott
  hands down in my book (they traded wins 50-50
  the first 4 years, if I remember correctly).  
  He shows the ability to do a much wider variety 
  of styles than Scott (again, IMHO).

Brian Boitano:
  I was never that big a fan of his until I saw him 
  live.  Then, his perfection just blows you away!
  But I would still argue that he just can't interpret
  music the way the 3 above him can.  I once wondered
  if you swapped the music to a couple of his numbers
  would it even make a difference?

Old timers:
  Anybody remember John Misha Petkevitch, Gordie McKellen,
  or Ken Shelly? These guys all had incredible charisma, even
  though they never won Olympic medals.  I remember them
  from the World and Olymipic tours of the early seventies,
  when I was starting skating.  They were my heros!

  [Gordie McKellen skated our club show, and during 
  rehearsal entertained us with triple axels (no kidding),
  and this was around 1974.  Also, I saw him win Nationals
  in 1973 live.  I also saw Janet Lynn that year, and
  Dorothy Hamill was 2nd to her.]
  

Cam