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From: at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. French)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: favorite cat
Date: 30 Dec 1992 20:25:22 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. French)
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In a previous article, lydia@tarsal.dsg.ti.com (lydia middendorf) says:
>my favorite type (breed) of cat is Birman mix (from the humane shelter of
>course!!! )
>
>I would like to here stories of how you folks met your kittys.
>
Let's see - I was over at a friend's house one night, and this
three week old tux kitten was trying to *stalk* one of the older
cats. The little thing could barely wobble along, but he was
intent on his mission. I told my friend if he gave the kitten
to anyone else I would hate him, and five weeks later picked up
Spanky for good.

Five months later, there was a small, female, gray w/white paws
longhair kitten at the Humane Society. And so we have Darla :)

They are both longhairs, with nearly identical markings except
that where Spanky is black, Darla is gray. She is petite, he
is LARGE. 

Luckily, they have gotten along famously from minute one. In
two weeks  the three of us will be in the car for three days
heading to Dallas. 

Nicole, Spanky, and Darla (whose gunky eyes are cleared up!)
From: laurel.schippers@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Laurel Schippers) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: DECLAWING OLDER CATS
Date: 27 Dec 92 22:44:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: HAL 9000, W-NET HQ, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Reply-To: laurel.schippers@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Laurel Schippers) 

Get your vet to show you how to clip her claws.  9 years old
is a little too far along to go in for surgery unless she absolutely
has to...

A good pair of nail scissors and a clipping every couple of weeks
ought to keep her claws short.  (You cut just the white claw ends;
be careful not to cut into the pink quick!) Even if she scratches
things, it won't do any damage.
            
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From: spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: When the Cat is Lost...
Date: 31 Dec 1992 03:41:26 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
NNTP-Posting-Host: zion.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Dec31.031824.2400@news.eng.convex.com> oexmann@convex.com (Carla Oexmann) writes:
>What would you do when your cat is lost ?  Two weeks ago, we let the 
>Q out into the back yard, which is, or so I thought, cat proof.  She
>hasn't returned....
>
>What we've done so far : 
>1 : Made up flyers with her picture, description, and reward offer, 
>    which we then rubberbanded to the front door of the houses in the
>    neighborhood.
>2 : Ad in the paper
>3 : Regular checks of the animal shelter
>4 : Register with Pet-Track 
>
>Any other ideas ? 

Only that you shuold post flyers on telephone poles, etc., in
addition to leaving them on doors.  Do this at least 1/4 to
1/3 mile radius around where the cat disappeared.

You should check out any "closed spaces" in the area --
garages, etc. that the cat might have got shut into...

I really hope you find your cat.

It doesn't help after the fact, but after one cat
disappeared I've vowed to always keep name tags with
our phone number on all cats henceforth.

Steve
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Perils of Antifreeze
Date: 23 Dec 92 11:04:48 -0600
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Dec23.023422.13840@netcom.com>, wd6cmu@netcom.com (Eric Williams) writes:
> One of my books says the first-aid antidote for antifreeze is vodka and
> milk, but doesn't give any details.  Is this right?

My recollection (not a vet!) is that you start the animal on an alcohol
drip immediately, and induce vomiting.  It's not a home treatment-- it's
a genuine emergency when a pet swallows antifreeze.  Minutes count.

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI
From: nvonstein@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Plant question
Date: 30 Dec 92 13:10:20 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Dec30.033244.25376@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon) writes:
> 
> I am a severe chronic asthmatic, and I have been doing a lot of reading
> lately about my wonderful illness.  It seems a spider plant can help
> remove toxins from the air and produce oxygen (I know all plants do
> produce oxygen, but this one works especially well).  The question is:
> are spider plants poisonous to my kitty cats??  If not, I'm headed for
> a nursery!
> 
> --Karen

I can tell you this - my kitties have eaten my spider plants down to the soil
and everyone is still alive.  They love them!!  But I wouldn't want to take the
liability of saying the plant is not toxic.   
This is just my personal experience.

Nancy
From: bets@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Beth Schwindt)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: sneezy kitten?
Date: 22 Dec 1992 12:39:52 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

Does anyone else out there have an asmathic cat?  My soon-to-be-in laws have
a 9 month old kitten that has sneezing fits about once an hour that go
on for up to five minutes.  The vet says that all we can do is wipe her
nose and listen to her sneeze (which, by the way, is very funny to watch,
as she usually starts sneezing in the middle of a big playing streak, and
she can't quite manage to keep her balance).

Any suggestions on how to make poor Petrie's life a little easier?

Beth


-- 
"We are not free; it was never intended we should be.  A book of rules
is placed in our cradles, and we never get rid of it until we reach
our graves."--E.W. Howe, 1924  
bets@matt.ksu.ksu.edu              bets@ksuvm.ksu.edu
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From: piltch@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Nancy Piltch)
Subject: Cats with different diets (Re: Cat licks plastic and likes it)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 29 Dec 1992 09:19 EST  

In article <C00EDr.MIE@news.iastate.edu>, bron@iastate.edu (bronwyn) writes...

..[ about cats needing different types of food]

Pita is a diabetic and FUS-prone cat who gets either w/d to control his
diabetes or s/d when he gets a FUS incident. (As of his most recent
incident the vet is recommending s/d until he's cleared up, then a regimen
of 3 weeks w/d, 1 week s/d to try to keep the problems under control.)

Squiffel is a 6-month old who is getting Science Diet feline growth food.
The vet's instructions are that Pita may not under any circumstances get
Squiffel's food, but it's ok if Squiffel gets some of Pita's. So...
Squiffel gets fed in the bathroom, with the door closed. (It's how she's
been fed ever since she found my home so she thinks it's perfectly normal.)
What she doesn't eat in about 15 minutes or so gets put away until the
next time. Pita's food gets left out for open feeding. (He needs to
have food available all the time in case he goes hypoglycemic as a reaction
to insulin.)

Incidentally, my thanks to the wonderful people at the emergency vet
clinic who treated Pita's recent urinary tract blockage on Christmas
Eve. 

Nancy Piltch            piltch@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov
NASA Lewis Research Center, Cleveland Ohio 44135

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: wd6cmu@netcom.com (Eric Williams)
Subject: Re: Meaning of tabby cats
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 07:59:36 GMT

rmd@tellabs.com (Bob Dyas) writes:
> I've read/heard that many/most/all tabbies have what appears to be a
> capital letter M on their forehead.  My cat does.  Is this true for all
> the tabbies out there?

Vincent is a classic tabby.  He doesn't have an 'M' on his forehead,
but he does have a pattern on the top of his head that looks remarkably
like a thumbprint.

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From: jmckerro@attcan.UUCP (Janet McKerrow)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: When will people learn???
Summary: cat peeing in house
Keywords: kitten, SPCA,
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:43:42 GMT
Organization: AT&T Canada Inc., Toronto

In article <d8n237h@rpi.edu>, petitc@nuge112.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit) writes:
> kkv@inel.gov (Jamie J Ferguson) writes:
> 
> >In article <berthiau.724658547@iros1> berthiau@iro.umontreal.ca Reply-To: bunny@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Eva Chan) writes:
> >>Well, need I say more?  An acquaintance has decided to take the 
> >>kitten he and his girlfriend got at a pet store to the SPCA. *SIGH*
> 
 
>  Happened to our kitty---the previous owners had 2 kitties and a dog.  They
> got along fairly well, but the Siamese kitty---Brandy, didn't really like
> Samantha (the other kitty).  And, the two kids (9 and 10 years old) loved
> Samantha, but hated and ignored Brandy.  Guess what---he started peeing on
> their clothes.  He just wanted love and attention but only got the latter when
> he destroyed things.
> 
>  Has something like this happened to anyone else?
> 
> -- 
We had the same situation, two cats that didn't get on at all.  We made the
mistake of introducing a new (male) when the first one was 3 - we thought
they would be company for each other, not realizing that the temperament 
of the older cat was not compatible.  We all (4 adults) made conscious
efforts to shsow the two cats the same love and affection - we did indeed
love them both equally, but when the younger one reach about 2 he started
spraying in the house.  Nothing was safe from his "marker" - he ruined a
VCR, CDs, you name it!  We sometimes wondered how he reached the things
he sprayed!  The smell was unbelievable and the vet said there was no
cure - he would spray in another home just as much, even with no other
animals and we couldn't bear the idea of putting him down.  A solution
presented itself in the nick of time - a friend's farm.  We took him 
up there last June and he has settled in very well.  There are other cats
there and he seems to get on with them.  He's become a barn cat and
can spray all he wants. 

The funny thing was Bogie's reaction to being alone - he went all over
the house looking for Tuffy.  He went off his food and only came in
the house to look for his ex-mate.  It was nearly a month before he
was back to normal and now he really revels in being the only cat.
In fact he's gone from being quite standoffish to being very (for him)
affectionate and sleeps on our bed at night in the cold weather.

Sorry I've rambled on a bit, but we were so pleased to find a solution
and not have to put Tuffy down.   I'm just sorry that we're probably
sentenced to being a one-cat family for the next 10 years.

Janet


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Subject: Toilet Training Cats: SUMMARY
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:54:16 GMT

Well, I'm afraid this is not much of a summary...most of you who replied just
wanted me to forward informative replies :) I'm surprised that more people
haven't tried this!

One person mentioned that they had tried when their cat was younger and that
they had limited success. They think that the age of the cat and the fact
that they went too fast through the training process was probably the reason
for failure. Aparently the cat also did not like the splash when it pooped,
so started pooping NEXT to the toilet.

I phoned the pet supply store, the training kit costs about $20. According to
the guy I spoke with, people who have bought them have had good success. So I
think it's worth a try at any rate.

The books say that if your cat ever falls in, you may need to re-train it,
but that it would of course take less time. The main thing to remember seems
to be too go slowly with weaning the cat away from the litter/training form.

I'll probably get one today, I'll let you all know how it goes after a month
or so!


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Xref: sparky rec.pets.cats:15560 news.answers:4774
From: ac999239@umbc8.umbc.edu (ac999239)
Subject: Re:    declawing?
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 03:47:16 GMT

I have 4 cats of varying ages...All were declawed since my parents said
either the claws go or they do. Turned out they all came out of it fine and
except for having to use shreadded newspaper for a few weeks instead of litter
there really wasn't any hassle. I could tell the cats KNEW something was
wrong and were a little sad, but got over it and have been great. This was
done a couple years ago and all 4 are still kicking!

I guess if you pick a bad vet things can happen, but our vets here seem to be
good so far.

Xref: sparky rec.pets.cats:15608 rec.travel.air:6316
From: Nervid@cup.portal.com (Dave Dave Luke)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,rec.travel.air
Subject: kitty travel
Date: Fri,  1 Jan 93 19:33:02 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

I'd like to know if anyone has good advice for international kitty
travel.  My mother is taking our cat from Delaware, USA to Cairo,
Egypt.  Once she gets to Egypt, she'll be staying in a hotel for a
month before she moves to an apartment.  Are there any kennels or
companies that could safely and easily ship "Minki" after my mother
has secured an apartment?  Or should she take her on the plane herself
and drag her around Cairo until she finds an apartment?  Any other 
creative ideas for this transit?  

					Thanks,

					Karen
c/o
Dave Luke
nervid@cup.portal.com
From: pandit@ssd.intel.com (Milind Pandit)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: declawing?
Date: 28 Dec 92 23:33:01 GMT
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division (SSD), Intel

In article <1992Dec21.230952.18380@super.org> judith@super.org (Judith D. Schlesinger) writes:
>A couple of additional points:  it amazes me how much the declaw/anti-
>declaw argument sounds like the abortion/anti-abortion argument.  In
>some articles, you can replace the word declaw with abortion and not
>have to change another word in the whole thing.  On the declaw side,
>people seem to universally say that declawing is not for everyone and
>you have to make an individual choice based on circumstances that only
>you can evaluate; and sometimes you're simply choosing what you consider
>to be the lesser of two evils.  Very similar to the pro-choice (pro
>abortion) argument.  On the anti-declaw side, people seem to say that
>they would never declaw a cat that lived with them and no one else
>should ever declaw any cat.  Sounds a lot like anti-abortion to me.
>
>The bottom line on this, as I see it, is that *everyone* is free to
>choose what they will do but *no one* has the right to dictate to me
>based on their value system.

A very interesting observation.  Let me extend it.  I'm sure you agree
that you have no right to interfere with another individual based on
your value system.  Anti-abortion arguments often rest on the
assumption that a fetus is an individual with a right to life that
cannot be taken away.  Similarly, anti-declawing arguments often rest
on the assumption that a cat is an individual with a right to possess
claws that cannot be taken away.  The endlessness of the debates is
due to the difficulty of proving/disproving these assumptions.
-- 
Milind S. Pandit			|
Operating Systems Engineer		| pandit@ssd.intel.com
Intel Supercomputer Systems Division	|
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: isc40041@nusunix1.nus.sg (LOO KOK HOE)
Subject: Happy New Year 
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 02:07:57 GMT

Hi

Wish all cats & their owners all
very very Happy New Year  !!!

Greeting from Singapore .....




george

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Subject: Re: Renaming my new cat
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 00:21:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.194400.28140@super.org> judith@super.org (Judith D. Schlesinger) writes:
>When I adopted Sarah, she was 9.5 months and named "Le Mieux".  I just
>couldn't see calling her that!  "Bad, Le Mieus!"  "Get down, Le Mieux!"
>Nope, it just wasn't going to work.

One of the cats we're looking after while my boss is away is named Jicarita,
pronounced with a hard J (the kids who named her don't speak Spanish). I
gather this fairly quickly got shortened to Jiggs, probably as much for the
people's sake as the cat's :-).

I'm also told that as often as not she was called "B.D.", short for "Brain
Dead", though since she suddenly warmed up to us a week ago, she hasn't
really demonstrated behavior worthy of that name.

She responds to "Jiggs" ("answers" would be too strong a word :-) ), but shows
no reaction to either B.D. or Jicarita. I wouldn't either.

So now, in addition to Abby and Boots, we have Jiggs and Tiger (her brother).
-- 
Ruth Milner                          NRAO/VLA                  Socorro NM
Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
From: feldman@flash.crd.ge.com (Sandra F Feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: cat in heat?
Date: 31 Dec 92 21:43:36 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

In article <1hvo2tINNfp2@agate.berkeley.edu>, spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope) writes:
|> Joseph.V.Kelly.Jr@dartmouth.edu (Joseph V. Kelly Jr) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> Assuming she does not get out, and no tomcats get in, my
|> understanding (somebody may correct me on this) is that
|> she will remain in heat indefinitely.

No, I think she will stay in heat for only a week or two.  Check with the vet,
and see how soon s/he will schedule her to be spayed.  Some vets will spay while
the cat is in heat, but they charge extra.  I guess the operation must be a bit
more complicated.  Don't feel bad about spaying.  The cat recovers very quickly.
If you have any hesitation, browse back through the articles from a few weeks
ago.  Another cat lover was agonizing over the surgery, and came to the 
conclusion that the cat will be happier and healthier once spayed.

-- 
Sandy Feldman
feldman@crd.ge.com

my opinions are mine and do not reflect a position of General Electric
From: hcrain@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Helen C Crain)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Meaning of tabby cats
Date: 23 Dec 1992 14:33:57 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Reply-To: hcrain@convex.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.30
Originator: hcrain@convex.csd.uwm.edu

From article <1992Dec22.160649.15563@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, by jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins):
> 
> 
> What are the characteristic, defining markings of what are
> called tabby cats?
> 
Well, for one thing, tabbies have a little "M" over their
eyes.

> Also, can anyone comment on coloration and markings of "tortise-shell 
> tabbies" and "mackerel tabbies"?

I thought the distinction was between mackeral and the so
called classic, or bulls-eye tabbies.  Mackeral tabby
markings are basically linear, and the classic markings
occur in circular patches. Doesn't the tortise-shell simply
refer to a fairly specific combination of colors?  ?Black,
orange, and white?
combination
-- 
Helen C. Crain             hcrain@convex.csd.uwm.edu 
UWMilwaukee Nursing                   Wisconsin, USA
"There is more of good nature than good sense at the
bottom of most marriages"    HD Thoreau
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From: stealth@engin.umich.edu (Michael Pelletier)
Subject: Re: Cats riding on shoulders
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 17:04:28 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats

In article <18157@bcars664.bnr.ca>, lianne@bcarh17e.BNR.CA (Lianne Barre)
wrote:
> 
> For our cat Salvador, the shoulders are his favourite (and only acceptable)
> perch when riding in the car.
> 
> He hates car rides - he meows, trembles, and sweats from his paws (little
> wet footprints all over the upholstery). But he hates his carrier even more,
> and much prefers to be let out while driving. The only place he will settle
> down is on your shoulders - he'll climb up and drape himself across, looking
> out the window. 

That's interesting -- our oldest cat, Tripper, rode with us out to
Washington
DC for Thanksgiving when he was about a year old, and since we'd heard
stories
of kitty car-parinoia, we even got some tranqulizers for him from the Vet.
But it turned out we didn't need them at all.  He was a bit uptight for
the first 10-15 minutes, but he eventually wound up sleeping for most of
the
day and staring out the window at night perched on the back ledge or on the
dashboard, or climbing over us to look out the side windows.

Just goes to show it's impossible to generalize about cats beyond saying
that most of them are furry.  :-)
From: at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. French)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Tabby "M"
Date: 25 Dec 1992 18:22:40 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. French)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


One story I heard about the "M" on the tabby head, was that
it was a cat who was able to purr the baby Jesus to sleep, so
Mary kissed the cat on the head, and now they sport the M.

I had a brown/white tabby with a mark on his head that looked
more like a demon than an "M" to me - it fit his personality :)

Nicole, Spanky, and Darla
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From: prkenne@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (CAROL SHARP)
Subject: Re: Plant question
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 30 Dec 1992 10:32 EST  

In article <1992Dec30.033244.25376@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon) writes...
> 
>I am a severe chronic asthmatic, and I have been doing a lot of reading
>lately about my wonderful illness.  It seems a spider plant can help
>remove toxins from the air and produce oxygen (I know all plants do
>produce oxygen, but this one works especially well).  The question is:
>are spider plants poisonous to my kitty cats??  If not, I'm headed for
>a nursery!

Spider plants are hanging plants, so unless you get and unusually long one 
your kitty's will never get close it it.



            " Learn from the mistakes of others
             you can never live long enough to
             make them all yourself"

                                *Carol*

			
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