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From: sahmed@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Saif Ahmed)
Subject: Re: News
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
	<1992Oct8.145447.21775@cbis.ece.drexel.edu>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:51:05 GMT
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In article <1992Oct8.145447.21775@cbis.ece.drexel.edu> raquib_hassan@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (Raquib Hassan) writes:
   In article  Boo!, misra@matt.ksu.ksu.edu writes:

   >sahmed@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Saif Ahmed) writes:
   >
   >>The Indian government claim they are Bangladeshi citizens. Most of
   >>them were originally from Bangladesh but have lived in India for over
   >>30 years or so and most of them have Indian ration cards and ids. Some
   >
   >	what does living in india for 30yrs have to do with it? I could 
   >	evade the INS and live here for 30 years but if i get caught
   >	they will send me back. If some of them are not citizens of Bd
   >	then that must be rectified, but someone is a citizen then 
   >	they must return regardless of how long they have lived in india.

    There was no Bangladesh before 1971. So they are Pakistani citizen. Why
   Bd
    would be responsible for them? They should be returned to Pakistan.


I don't agree with you here. If they are Bangladeshis they should be
returned to Bangladesh and not Pakistan. But I don't agree with Misra
either. As I mentioned earlier most of these people have Indian ration
cards and are registered voters. Most of them claimed that they voted
in the last election. If you lived here and have a green card or are a
registered voter (of course here everyone has to have a passport) you
are definitely a us citizen.
Most of these people don't have passports but then again neither do
more than half of the other language speaking peoples.

Saif
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: tanmon@next02pg2.wam.umd.edu (Tanveer Chowdhurm)
Subject: **Define LOVE**
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 06:36:50 GMT

Can anybody tell me what is the defination of Love. A friend of mine has  
got an essay to write. 

			--->Tanveer<---
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: adatta@cs.tamu.edu (Abhijit Datta)
Subject: Re: How about an EEC type arrangement in our subcontinent? (wasRe: News)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:35:39 GMT

	I think Wasif has raised a very valid question in article 5565.
I would be eager to know about the opinions of SCBites (& SCIians) in this 
regard.

	Abhijit
From: kas5213@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Dead Beat Caller
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:21:15 GMT
Reply-To: kas5213@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

Famin Ahmed <FA8509A@auvm.american.edu> writes:

>way to go adnan! i've had the same problems, using phonecards to call abroad...
>of course, my parents don't trust me, so they disabled ANY  and all internation
>al calling on my sprint foncard.... but, i was just wondering, does it cost any
>more to call with your calling card, then directly? another thing that really
>bothers me is that living on a college campus, you can never take advantage of
>all these wonderful money-saving plans (friends and family, the most, and any o
>f the international dialling plans). i mean, correct me if i'm wrong, but aren'
>t college students the ones who need to save money the most? thanks for giving
>the mci people a piece of your mind....now if only we could do the same for AT&
>T....
>hasta,
>Famin.
>sad that i seemed to have become a lurker, as opposed to a poster...blame it on
>the work....

thank you for your note, famin. each time you use calling cards for
international calls, there is a $1.75 surcharge, with direct calling there is no
such charges. other than the surcharge every thing works like as if you were
calling direct, all the "discounts" are taken into account. MCI used to give me
friends and family for one international number. the charge was $1.75
surcharge + 2.59 first minute + 94 cents each additional minutes. I can not get
that any more as MCI blocked calls and i cancelled my card. AT&T cards can be 
used from rochester (where i live). the charges are a bit more but i am not that
poor to pay $1 or $2 more, atleast i get through to bangladesh. one thing to
note, i charge all my bangladesh calls to my parents' credit card that way i
don't have to pay for the calls.

hope that answers your question.

					ADNAN SIDDIKY
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: kas5213@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Dead Beat Callers
Reply-To: kas5213@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 04:05:52 GMT

I have been trying to make calls to Bangladesh for the past one hour using my 
MCI card. Needless to say I could not get through. When I called the customer
service people in MCI, they said that calls to Bangladesh using calling cards
were blocked out. When I asked them why, they said that there were a lot of
fraudulent calls made to Bangladesh so they had to block it. I asked them
why I have to suffer for other people's mistreatment of calling cards, I pay my
bills on time every time?!! Why do I have to suffer for the dead beats who
misuse the system, life is not fair.
	If there are any DEAD BEATs reading this, I want to know few things, why
are you @#$%&*$#@ doing this, is it fun to put your own country's name down, do
you get a kick out of making poor souls like me suffer, are you too cheap, do
you not have any decency? 
                                                  ADNAN SIDDIKY

Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Naeem Mohaiemen)
Subject: speaker nominations
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 03:00:52 GMT
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soliciting nomination ideas for commencement speaker. people already in
consideration:

	hanan ashrawi
	Dr. Mohammed yunus [grameen bank]
	edward said
	noam chomsky
	mamood darwish [palestinian poet]
	tariq ali[ 'can pakistan survive?']
	ali mazrui
	
[obviously all nominations came from left faction on campus]

If u have any blurb type info on these people, or any other suggestions, please
post or e-mail.

Naeem Mohaiemen
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From: zeeshan@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Zeeshan Hasan)
Subject: Re: **Define LOVE**
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 08:29:46 GMT
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In article <1992Oct14.063650.13760@wam.umd.edu> tanmon@next02pg2.wam.umd.edu (Tanveer Chowdhurm) writes:
  >Can anybody tell me what is the defination of Love. A friend of mine has  
  >got an essay to write. 
			   --->Tanveer<---

	What's this?  Look, friend; if you want to find out about
*love*, get out of the computer center and find yourself some nice
juicy female who's willing to show you the ropes...

farewell-
--
Zeeshan Hasan 
zeeshan@occs.cs.oberlin.edu or skh7063@oberlin.bitnet
OCMR Box 1529, Oberlin College, Oberlin, Ohio 44074. Phone:(216)775-6447
	"I love mankind... it's people I can't stand!" - Linus Van Pelt
From: was@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (wasif.sattar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Agartala Mamla
Summary: Agartala conspiracy case
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:59:42 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <ldtrs3INNpno@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM>, kabir@kabir.Eng.Sun.COM (Ihtisham Kabir) writes:
> I have always been intruged by this question: was there any truth
> to the Agartala Mamla allegations?
> Does anyone know? Hearsay is ok...
> - Ihtisham Kabir
> PS, To refresh your memory, the Pakistan govt prosecuted Sheikh Mujib
> and some others on treason charges during the 1960s, claiming that
> they had met secretly with Indians at Agartala and conspired to break
> up Pakistan. The case was eventually dropped, but it catapulted Mujib
> into his leadership role.

No one will ever know the whole truth behind this case. Was there any
plan or conspiracy by Sheikh Mujib in collusion with India to start a
secessionist movement for East Pakistan to break away from Pakistan? 
From my observation and study of our history preceding the era of the
Liberation War and on the basis of the Bangobandhu's public and private
utterances and on the stand he took on the issue of secession all the
way until March 25, 1971 I doubt the veracity of the case. But then again
who knows what the truth is!

The general public in East Pakistan in pre-1971 days did not particularly
have a soft corner for India. The attitude varied between neutrality to
mild antagonism. The antagonism was a result of the incessant propaganda
machine of Radio Pakistan and the govt. controlled press. The pro-East
Pakistan political parties reflected the views of the public at large.
Under these circumstances a conspiracy to secede in collaboration with
India seemed highly unlikely.

The Bangobandhu was in favor of full regional autonomy for the provinces
with seperate economies in a confederation of Pakistan as originally
defined in the Lahore Resolution. The only things that were to be under
the central govt. were foreign policy and national defense. However that
was never realized. East Pakistan was pushed into a full scale secessionist 
movement first by denying the elected representatives of the people 
their right to run Pakistan and secondly by commencing the worst genocide
in human history. This was the point of no return after which a union
with Pakistan was out of question. Our partnership with India with regard
to our Liberation War was not something planned by either party but 
evolved on the basis of the flow of events. 

Even after his return from Pakistani confinement it took the Bangobandhu
a little time to get used to the idea of a free and sovereign Bangladesh.
This by itself indicates that he did not have secessionist designs for
our country. Of course he could have been fooling all of us all the time!

Any opinions from other scb-ers?

Shubhechhante,
Wasif
From: misra@magna.ksu.ksu.edu (Boo!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: News
Date: 8 Oct 1992 00:58:47 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
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naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Naeem Mohaiemen) writes:

>border guards foil indian attempt to herd more than 200 Bengalis speakers
>into the ctry. the latest since 'begin of "Operation Pushback" [r]
	
	Arent these people who are told to go back..bangladeshi citizens?
	If that is the case, why is Bd pushing back!?
From: b609zdo@utarlg.uta.edu ( ( Maruf ))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Diju, answer me!
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:28:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Yousuf Hasan Bhuyan (Diju), if you are still alive and in the U.S.,
get in touch with me immidiately.

MARUF
b609zdo@utarlg.uta.edu
ee2315b.001@gertrude.uta.edu
(817)-459-0557 (v-mail only)
From: 87p1677@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Just a trial
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:51:09 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

This is a trial. lease ignore it.
Muhammad Ali
Marketing Dept.
University of NSW Australia
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: mikail@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov (Mikail Shams)
Subject: 1985 SSC graduates from Udayan and U. Lab
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 16:53:10 GMT
Organization: Center of Excellence in Space Data and Information Sciences
Newsgroup: soc.culture.bangladesh
Originator: mikail@pepsi.eng.umd.edu



I am desperately looking for my school buddies from 1985s graduating
class from Udayan and University Laboratory School.  I have gotten in 
touch with Zahid Rashid in Rutgers and Rezaur Rahman in Denison.  If 
somebody anybody has any leads on these lost people please send me 
email. I am very eager to get in touch with the following list of 
people:

	Shamsul Islam
	Sajjadul Imam a.k.a. Kalahari
	Nihad Jamalian Mojeed
	Shuproteek Islam (Mithun)
	Ahsan  Habib Al-Mamun
	Ahmed Ali (Tapan)
	Fairooz Samira
	Jasmeen Rahman (Shilu)
	Shiplu (From "Shaka Shandha" I don't know if he is in the US)
	Manwar (From "Anwar Silk Mills")
	Pervez Sohel 
	Lutful
	Ariful Huq
	Ariful Islam a.k.a. Poka

I am sure I am missing a whole lot of names.  I haven't seen most of 
them in seven years.
    From: mikail@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov (Mikail Shams)
Newsgroup: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: 1985 SSC graduates from Udayan and U. Lab
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I am desperately looking for my school buddies from 1985s graduating
class from Udayan and University Laboratory School.  I have gotten in 
touch with Zahid Rashid in Rutgers and Rezaur Rahman in Denison.  I am 
very eager to get in touch with the following list of people:

	Shamsul Islam
	Sajjadul Imam a.k.a. Kalahari
	Nihad Jamalian Mojeed
	Shuproteek Islam (Mithun)
	Ahsan  Habib Al-Mamun
	Ahmed Ali (Tapan)
	Fairooz Samira
	Jasmeen Rahman (Shilu)
	Shiplu (From "Shaka Shandha" I don't know if he is in the US)
	Manwar (From "Anwar Silk Mills")
	Pervez Sohel 
	Lutful
	Ariful Huq
	Ariful Islam a.k.a. Poka

I am sure I am missing a whole lot of names.  I haven't seen most of 
them in seven years.   If somebody anybody has any leads on any Udayan
or U. Labs 1985 batch people please send me email.

Thanks in advance.

P E A C E

Mikail


Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: Z36Q000 <Z36Q@UNB.CA>
Subject: LOOKING FOR A BRIDEGROOM
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:19:05 GMT

I am looking for a Bangladeshi boy ( studying or working ) who wants to get married
soon. The bride ( girl ) is a final year Buet student- brilliant, smart, tall, and
good looking. The girl's father is a professor at DU.
If serious, please contact me.
Tel: (506) 457-9291 Home   (call after 1800 hrs)
or send email.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,wpi.students.desis
From: alhaque@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Abul Lais M S Haque)
Subject: Re: Looking for place to stay in DC [3-5 days]
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:04:55 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

In article <1bdht2INNd9j@bigboote.WPI.EDU> ravi@cs.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan) writes:
>In article <NAEEM.92Oct12185018@occs.cs.oberlin.edu>, naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Naeem Mohaiemen) writes:
>|> 
>|> I looking for a place to stay in Washington DC for 3-5 days from Monday of
>|> next week [19th]. I have to go to DC on emergency basis to get some data for 
>|> thesis work.
>|> 
>
>	i hear the sheraton provides excellent service and great food.
>	hope you have a great time.
>
>	hope this helps,
>
		Yes, it would be of further help if you provide with
		your complete address so that the bill could be sent
		properly.
From: samaddar@siemens.com (Sumitro Samaddar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Illegal Bangladeshis in India
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:19:37 GMT
Reply-To: samaddar@siemens.com

kundu@watson.ibm.com (Sandip Kundu) writes:

>and infiltrations can not be avoided. There may be further
>complications in future if new immigrants demand special rights 
>as has happened in Darjeeling district where the Nepalese immigrants
>have beome majority within 40 years of immigration and
>demanding a separate state. Darjeeling is now an autonomous 
>region within West Bengal.

The latest "India Abroad" reports that Bangladeshi muslims are a
majority in 56 out of 297 assembly segments, and significant in
another 100 assembly segments. It didn't comment on whether these
bangladeshis are pre-1971 or post-1971. Neither did it comment
on the number of post-1971 Bangladeshi hindus in W.Bengal.

Sumitro
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: sahmed@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Saif Ahmed)
Subject: Re: Azmi & Farooque Shaikh in Dhaka
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:43:24 GMT
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
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In article <ldj9hbINN8go@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> kabir@kabir.Eng.Sun.COM (Ihtisham Kabir) writes:
   In article 92Oct12034718@occs.cs.oberlin.edu, naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Naeem Mohaiemen) writes:
   [quoting the Courier]
   >..."Shabana Azmi", declared actor Mahmood Koli, MA in English by the way, "has
   >contributed much to the social problems of India."..

   Which is the correct interpretation :-)))))

   1. Koli wanted to insult Azmi.
   2. Koli didn't mean to insult - the words just came out wrong.
   3. Courier messed up in transcribing or translating.


Koli did not mean to insult Azmi. He meant to say something along the
line of Shabani Azmi contributed much towards solving the social
problems of India. The words didn't come out wrong, it was just bad
english because he said it twice at two different receptions.

Saif

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From: kazi@dobie.cis.udel.edu (Zunaid Kazi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: More BUET: Questions, news and comments
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:28:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: udel.1992Oct9.192823.9743
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark


We have all been reading about the new BUET VC. Who in the world is he?
I called home last night and talked to my sister who is in BUET. It
appears that Dr. Shahjahan is still the VC. He hasn't completed his
tenure as the VC and so unless he resigns he should still be the VC.

If he isn't the VC anymore then who might the new one be?

JRC? Dr. Mujibur Rahman? Dr. J (ChemE)? 

Who is the new head of CSE? It should be Dr. Shamsul Alam. Does anybody
know whether Dr. Kaikobad has become an associate professor?

Who are the current President and GS of the teacher's association?

The faculty at BUET appears to be split 50/50 about the new curriculum.
I would think the opposition is probably coming from the geriatrics
who are not too keen on the extra work involved. We saw the same kind
of split during the introduction of Class Tests, and the decision to
take in two batches simultaneously.

All the inner walls in the campus are being taken down. These include
the walls running parallely on the road that runs between the Cafeteria/
Arch Building and OAB/CE/EME building. One more story is being added
to the Architecture building.

(To BUET facs on leave ->
Let's go back.. (and not to NSU, to BUET please :) ))

-- Zunaid
   kazi@cis.udel.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Naeem Mohaiemen)
Subject: Azmi & Farooque Shaikh in Dhaka
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 08:47:18 GMT
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
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Shabana Azmi and Farooque Shaikh were in Dhaka recently to perform in play
"Thumhari Amrita", co sponsored by BTC, etc. This excerpt is from Dhaka 
Courier:

.."Shabana Azmi", declared actor Mahmood Koli, MA in English by the way, "has
contributed much to the social problems of India."..

..she was literally thrown off balance when our solid star Babita rushed
forward to grab her in a bear hug..


Naeem Mohaiemen
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Subject: of robbers and atlanta
From: shanto@vax1.mankato.msus.edu (Sharful Islam)
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:34:22 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University


The worst part about being a novice at computers is if i get into one of
these systems, I cant GET OUT!!

for eg, I decided to post a letter to scb but then i changed my mind. So 
Ipressed Control C to cancel it, kintoo kichchoo hochche na!

So, I guess I'll just have to write at least something!!

Might as well give whoever is reading this a few insights into Atlanta:

As of course the entire world knows, Atlanta is the city with the highest 
crime rate in the entire USA.It's good in a way, for eg, had there been no 
crime, there would be no thieves. Had there been no thieves, there wouldn't 
be any breaking ins. Had there been no breaking ins, the thief that i met 
wouldnt have stolebn the TV set he had stolen. Had he not stolen the TV set
and didnt want to sell it, I wouldnt have been able to buy it for $ 5 !!
Had I not been able to buy it, I would have missed seeing that bitch Sinead
O' Connor tearing up the Pope's picture on Saturday Night Live the other week.
So as you can tell, I am quite content with the crime waves in Atlanta . I
mean if i get a coloured TV set for only $ 5 , I have reasons to be happy ,
dont I??

Talking about crimes, the place where our college is situated isnt in the
poshest area of Atlanta. So,the other night, one of my Indian friends got
mugged . It was hilarious!! The reason being: He had only $ 1.25 on him!!!!

Another interesting story about crime in Atlanta. A guy walks into a gas
station and asks the cashier to give him a change for $ 20. The guy hands the
cashier the bill, the cashier puts in top of his cash register, and as sonn as
he opens the register, the guy pulls out a gun and asks thecashier to hand him
whatever amount there was in the register. The cashier obliges and hands him
the notes and the change there was, and the guy grabbed it and off he went. Now
the funny thing is, the mugger forgot to take the $2o the cashier gad left on
the top of the register. And there was only $15 in the register!!

Did you guys see thehumour? I'm lousy at narration, but I'll still try
explaining it. Initially there was just $ 15 in the register. mugger guy oi
taka niye bhagse and forgot to take his own $ 20. This is probably the only
robbery in history jokhon shala robber ulta dhora khaise!!!

So as you can see, Atlanta is certainly a beautiful city with dumbrobbers. I'm
beginning to like it!!

saeed!

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