From: 6500cws@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Christopher Wade Skinner)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: GAY & LESBIAN DISCRIMINATION...(What asshole started this thread anyway?)
Date: 16 Apr 92 04:10:02 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.235301.834@gacvx2.gac.edu> karsten@nic.gac.edu (Karsten Hendrick) writes:

>WRONG.  As long as they don't try hit on me I could
>and do care less, and they haven't so far, so we have
>absolutely no problems.

AH, THERE'S HOPE FOR YOU.

>Just because I said that I might not participate in oral sex, in
>no way indicates that I believe being a normal heterosexual precludes
>having oral sex.

That's not how you responded.  You clearly implied that as a
'normal heterosexual', you did not engage in oral sex.  Does
that mean you were simply begging the issue?

>> Read what I said again, Saltlick.  I simply think you might want to 
>> think twice before you associate with Strommie and RJ.

>I know what you said.  I know what you meant.  I was responding to
>your statement, not your thoughts.  There is a difference.

And I told you, Mr. Breadstick, that I thought *others* might
make that connection.  That you should actively distance yourself
from the really psychotic types bumbling around here.  Otherwise,
people might get the wrong idea.

>In the above statement, given the context of this article, I detect
>the presupposition that I associate with Strommie and RJ.

No, (and excuse your syntax, pace Ellison), I warn you that others
might surmise this, reading your posts.  Defend RJ's free speech.
I do.  I don't want his accounts pulled to no purpose.  But you
might tell us where you stand on his ravings.

>Look who the bigot is now.  It's not okay, according to you, not to
>associate with homosexuals just for the reason that they're homosexual, 
>but just because you don't care for Ronnie's attitude, I'm not supposed 
>to associate with him?  Who went to hell and made you the moral voice
>of alt.flame?  Hey, Keegan, you still alive?

You are contradicting yourself, Mr.Headpiece.  I am telling you
that hate is bad and that RJ promotes ideas that *you* might not
want to be associated with.  Merely a suggestion.

>AND WHEN, WHY, WHERE, HAVE I ASSOCIATED WITH HIM OR STROMMIE? 

I merely point out that you will be accused, Kreamy Lostship,
by the people in various groups, of having similar views, unless
you distance yourself from them.


>> No
>> where have I implied that you could do violence by e-mail, or that
>> you would do violence if you had that opportunity.  Some of the
>> things The Cartoon Character and RJ have posted hint or imply
>> otherwise.  As you side with them (as one of the few 'active
>> heterosexuals posting in alt.flame' or some such nonsense), you
>> might want to be wary that others don't suppose you share the same
>> view.

>My view is loud and clear, and it's my own, not yours, not Ronnie's
>and not Strommie's.            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Of this, there is no doubt.

>They flame heterosexuals and homosexuals
>alike, and so do I.
 
So do you like what they say?  Do you agree with it?

>> would you like to explain how I could successfully promote
>> >violence on alt.flame?  If I am promoting hate, it's because some
>> >weak-minded fool can't live with a diversity of opinion.  But,
>> >please, Chrissy, tell me why you are on alt.flame.  I suppose you
>> >are here to promote peace, brotherhood, and goodwill toward all 
>> >people?
> 
>> Diversity of opinion?  Gays = bad, evil, immoral people, who molest
>> children.  That's wonderful diversity of opinion, Wetwick.  I post
>> to oppose stupid bigotry like your own.

>That is your opinion on what my opinion is, but that is pretty
>shallow and pretty far off.  I post to flame self-righteous assholes
>who think they can tell everyone what to think.

And I think you've yet to show that your so called diversity of
opinion is more than bigotry.  If by whining "telling everybody
what to think," you mean me, a) you are mistaken, Mr. Hardcheese,
and b) attacking bigotry is hardly self-righteous.

>Karsten Hendrick, Herring-snack of Odin

cws

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