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From: pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald)
Subject: Re: A discipline for packages
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria B.C. CANADA
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 21:25:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan1.201620.26986@nwnexus.WA.COM> vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan) writes:
>pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald) writes:
>>SLS already allows easy uninstall (not that anyone uses it)
>>via "sysinstall -remove pkg".
>
>peter...don't take it out...I use it a lot !!!!!
>
>>Symbolic links turn out to be a system admins nightmare, and I am thinking
>>seriously about clensing SLS of all such, except for directories.
>>While hardware is cheap, slowing it down makes no sense.
>
>there are a number of packages (smail3.1.28 to name one) that use several
>symbolic links.  There are other packages (nn6.4.18 to name another) that
>hard-link.  I'm sure they both have their reasons...I'd recommend not messing
>with how the authors of a piece of software make it do its magic.

Actually, I was thinking of replacing them with hard links.  But for now,
I will probably just refrain from adding symlinks to the packages I 
put together.

>
>now if you can figure out how to have a package ask a few questions and
>'do good' as part of the installation process, I'm all ears...there are
>some packages that need to know things in order to be plug-n-play in a 
>binary-only distribution like SLS>
>

It turns out that my approach for this is to unpack ambiguous components
into a temporary directory and then run the /install/doinst.sh script
to ask any questions, or do any magic and mv things into their final
berth.  For example, binaries could unpack into /usr/bin/tmp,  and
that way there is some hope of being on the same file system for mv.

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From: davisar@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: ADAPTEC INSTALL QUESTIONS
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:48:03 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

System:Toshiba386/20 100mb Conner IDE HD;387-20copro,Adaptec 1542,
Syquest SQ5110 OS2/2.0 & Linux installed. SQ5110 internally
terminated. Enclosed disk formatted.Desire to boot from internal
now;external in future; with multiple partitions on both drives.
Review of the Adaptec AHA-1542b as setup:

J5: synchronous negotiation   disabled       other setups
    scsi parity               enabled
    scsi address              7
    DMA Channel               5
    interrupt channel         11
    DMA transfer speed        5.0 (5.7?)
J6: BIOS                      enabled         tried disabled
    Auto Sense                enabled         tried disabled
J7: AT I/O Address            330H
    BIOS Wait State           0,disabled
    AT BIOS Address           CD000H,Enabled
J8: (all jumpers removed)     disabled
J9: DMA Request               5
    DMA Acknowledge           5
    INT Request               11

Above is AHA-1542B as shipped. Exceptions: 
 J8: shipped as [floppy enabled: DMA 2 REQ: DMA 2 ACK: INT 10].
 J5: DMA transfer speed shipped set to 5.0;  not the stated 5.7.

SQ5110: I changed the ID on SQ5110 from 6 to 0 using a button on
the rear;instructions indicate changes are made using jumpers.

Tried enabling J7: Floppy Secondary address.
Reviewed the  toshiba technical reference manual. Nothing.

In my C:\OS2 directory, I have found these files:
OS2DASD.DMD  OS2SCSI.DMD   IBM1FLPY.ADD  IBM1S506.ADD

In config.sys file I have found these basedev:
=PRINT01.SYS  =IBM1FLPY.ADD  =IBM1S506.ADD    =OS2DASD.DMD

Adaptec literature mentions two things I have not found:
(1) AHA154x.add.  (2) a basedev line in config.sys using (1).

Q#1: Has anyone sayed that Toshiba 5200 controllers require bus
mastering be disabled? Q#2: Can you see any solutions?

until I can get this thing attached to OS2, I shouldn't try Linux.
But since I know I will can anyone give the step by step.
//davisar@msuvx1.memst.edu//
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From: marcf@nexus.yorku.ca (Marc G Fournier)
Subject: Re: Appendum to problems with AST board
Organization: York University
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 17:27:17 GMT

tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) writes:

>   From: marcf@nexus.yorku.ca (Marc G Fournier)
>   Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 03:50:08 GMT

>	   When I boot up the system, the kernel properly finds the
>   AST board, except it 'recognizes' them as ttys[8-11], which
>   do not exist.  I figured that I had to mknod them, so I tried it
>   out, but it didn't seem to work.  After thinking about it, over
>   dinner, it struck me like lightening...it is 'half' working...I'm
>   getting communications in one direction, but not the other.  Is
>   that possible?  It is sending out /etc/issue and login prompts,
>   but isn't allowing the other end to enter anything.  


>Sounds like interrupts to the FourPort board aren't working right.  If
>you don't have AUTO_IRQ (the automatic IRQ detection code) enabled, then
>you either need to jumper your FourPort card for IRQ 5, or you need to
>modify serial.c to use the proper IRQ for your card, or you need to use
>the setserial program to let the kernel know what IRQ the card is using.

	This is basically what I found out.  I did have AUTO_IRQ enabled
in the kernel, but for some reason, it wasn't picking up the IRQ correctly.
I had the IRQ  set at 2, with the 'addresses' set at 2a0->2b8(?), but
the IRQ that the kernel was finding was 5 :(  What I ended up doing was
just changing the IRQ to 5, and I seem to be having at least hard-wired
communications.  

	Now, to get the modems to work :)

	Thanks loads...

Marc
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From: richb@jti.com (Richard Braun)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: Connecting Novell networks of 286 to linux/386bsd
Date: 28 Dec 92 16:08:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: jti.Bzz8ts.9HL
Organization: Jupiter Technology Inc. / Waltham, MA

In article <hancu.724508876@clouso> hancu@crim.ca (Marius Hancu) writes:
>most of their PCs are tied up in Novell Netware networks ...
>
>They would like to have linux/386bsd on the server and have dumb terminal
>windows
>I have to mention there are several (not just one) 286s connected to a 386
>server. In Romania, there are hundreds of 286 running just dos/windows,
>and I'd like to change that...
>
>I wonder if any of you has any experience in this area? I would
>appreciate learning first of all about public domain tools ...

Get CUTCP and the Clarkson drivers from omnigate.clarkson.edu (or
sun.soe.clarkson.edu if it's not there).  I successfully ran a Novell
network of about 60 users with CUTCP at my former employer, and my new
employer is pretty happy with this solution as well.  IMHO, it's better
than Novell's own pricey TCP/IP product, LAN Workplace.  Especially on
older machines, the nice thing about CUTCP versus Lan Workplace is the
memory overhead:  a packet driver adds about 3K of overhead, whereas most
commercial TCP/IP products want a full TCP/IP protocol stack left resident
in memory (on the order of 60K).  With CUTCP, you unload the TCP/IP code
whenever you're not using it.

With this combination of software, you can log into a Novell server,
then into a UNIX (or Linux) host whenever you like.  You can even ftp
files directly between the UNIX server and the Novell server.

Wonder if Novell will ever port NetWare to Linux?  ;-)

-rich
P.S.  Has anyone set up a bootp server under Linux?  That'd make it really
nice in an environment like the one described here:  a single CONFIG.TEL
file on the Novell server could satisfy everyone, making system administration
easier.  Even without it, CUTCP is pretty easy to set up.
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From: wto@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (William T. O Connell)
Subject: Re: Need help booting Linux off HD
Organization: PC peripheral operational services group
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 22:48:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.202342.10290@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> creacy@yuppie.enet.dec.com (Chet Creacy) writes:
>
>In article <72759@cup.portal.com>, DO@cup.portal.com (JEFF SCOTT MARCUS) writes...
>>I am having troubles installing Lilo .7 on my system. I am trying to 
>>install it on a 100MB IDE with an 8MB DOS active partition and a 64MB 
>>Linux partition. I finaly got Lilo installed (and kept from stomping my 
>>DOS primary) and DOS boots up fine, Linux however does not. Here is my
>>Lilo config. file -
>> 
>>install=/etc/lilo/boot.b
>>boot=/dev/hda
>>delay=10
>>other=/dev/hda1
>>table=/dev/hda
>>image=/Image
>> 

<deleted>
>>MINIX-fs: Unable to read superblock
>>EXT-fs: Unable to read superblock              (never used mkefs)
>>MSDOS bread failed
>>isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev 0x343 iso_blknum16
>>Kernel panic: Unable to mount root
>> 
>>And then it dies :( I am brand new to Linux/Unix and cant find mention in
>>the docs I have (and dont know how to use TeX to read the large Lilo
>>docs, sniff) so would some kind soul please help me out ... hmmmmm??
>>Oh btw, I am using the latest SLS root/boot release.

I not exactly sure what your problem is but, are you sure that
you told lilo what partition root is on (i.e. linux=/Image,/dev/hda1
or something similiar to that). 

The first time I tried using lilo, I got the same error because it
was looking for linus's root partition in the wrong spot.

- Bill O'Connell         wto@ihlpx.att.com
From: ah200@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Randy Beiter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: A few misc questions, and a thank you
Date: 31 Dec 1992 23:01:09 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ah200@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Randy Beiter)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


First of all thanks to all the people who have helped me with my questions
over the past 5 days of getting linux up and running, I would still be 
babbling incoherently to myself of how to get files from my ibm hd to the 
linux end if it wasn't for the help :)

Now, after a couple of days of placid happiness of having all my questions
answered for the moment, I've gotta couple more :)

Question/problem #1: I grabbed screen3.2 patched for linux, got it compiled
			using the .a file that is graciously included,
			since gcc barfed all over the source :) and root
			can run it fine, however, any non-root user gets
			told the /tmp/.screens dir needs to be mode 777,
			and when I set it this way, it says there are no
			pty's free, and exits. When I run screen as root,
			it always demands the /tmp/.screens dir be 755,
			and as long as it is, screen is content when
			run under root. Any ideas what could be causing
			this? My guess is some permissions messed up
			somewhere, but I can't find where :)

Question #2: I snagged the tinymush nad tinyfugue binaries from tsx-11 to
		play with, and am curious about something: I am running a 
		completely isolated linux system, no ethernet card, no
		TSP/IP feed or anything, is it still possible to connect
		to a certain port on my own system? like connecting to
		localhost? *which doesn't work :)*

Question/Problem #3: After much hair pulling, I got mail all together on
			my system, however when I try responding to a
			piece of mail through elm, the mailer has a fit
			unless I manually edit the TO field, which elm
			always puts '@linux.sea.wa.us' at the end of,
			anyway to tell elm that I am not on any kind of
			network, and that it should ignore that?

One last Question :)  What exactly is the difference between an extended
file system and the regular old one? any reason to use extfs instead of
the normal one?

Thanks much for taking the time to read through this all, and even more so
if you respond :) Happy New Year!!!!!!!
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From: miquels@htsa.aha.nl (Miquel van Smoorenburg)
Subject: Re: sysvinit...
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 13:26:04 GMT
Organization: Algemene Hogeschool Amsterdam, Polytechnic Institute

In article <marcf.725346455@yorku.ca> marcf@nexus.yorku.ca (Marc G Fournier) writes:
>probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon) writes:
>
>	part 2: 'rc::bootwait:/etc/rc' gives an error 'cannot execute 
>/etc/rc'..../etc/rc is 755
>
>Marc

You probably found a _bug_ in the init package.. Thanks :-)
Init tries to execl() all processes first, and then uses
"sh -c exec [command]" if the execl fails. It does so in case
"command" is a shell built in or a shell script.
Appearantly, it fails. If you make the first line of /etc/rc

#!/bin/sh

then it will work. Use this for every shell script you try to
run from inittab. This bug, and two or three others will be
fixed in the next version (2.1) and I hope that one will be
free of bugs . :-)

Hope this helps - Mike.

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From: a080700@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (Stephen Wong S M)
Subject: Re: umount and /proc
Organization: The Chinese University of Hong Kong
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 02:41:29 GMT

In article <MNL.92Dec31210621@mnlsun.dtro.e-technik.th-darmstadt.de> mnl@dtro.e-technik.th-darmstadt.de (Michael N. Lipp) writes:
>I mount the /proc file system during boot with an fstab entry
>
>  /dev/kmem /proc proc
   ^^^^^^^^^

What are you doing?  It should be something like /proc /proc proc!

>When I halt the system (or when I try to unmount /proc by hand),
>I get
>
>  umount: /dev/kmem: not mounted
>
>bug or feature?

Definitely a bug, but not from Linux.

>
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From: wto@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (William T. O Connell)
Subject: Re: App. defaults for Seyon 1.6
Organization: PC peripheral operational services group
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 00:28:28 GMT

In article <C056uA.14G@techbook.com> kosina@techbook.com (Martin Kosina) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I got Seyon 1.6 to work, but the program is still complaining
>that it cannot find the "application defaults" and therefore
>"won't run correctly". I read the help file and README but
>it only says that linux users need not to change anything and
>everything will be installed properly if you compile it with
>"make install". It puts the file 'Seyon' into /usr/lib/shlib/
>/jump/X11/appdefaults/  but can't find it even if I put this
>into my $PATH. 
>   Could someone tell me where this is supposed to go ?
>
>Thanks !

Move the file to /usr/X386/lib/X11/appdefaults.
(Note: I'm not on my linux machine right now, that should be the
right path - if it's not, it's close).
Anyway, the makefile puts it in the wrong spot. After putting it the
directory with all the other application default files, seyon
should find it.

- Bill O'Connell	wto@ihlpx.att.com
From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: added memory - now Linux crashes
Date: 24 Dec 1992 15:03:56 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

st1n2@rosie.uh.edu (McCoy, Mark) writes:

>My setup:
>  486DX-33 noname
>  4 MB
>  orchid prodesigner II

>This past weekend, I installed the latest SLS release of Linux.  Although
>I grabbed X, I decided to wait to install it until I added more memory
>to my machine.  Linux was up and running with no problems. 
>I added an additional 4 megs of RAM on Monday (for a total of 8 megs),
>and now Linux bombs after appx 26 seconds with the following message:


>swap_free: weirness
>..
>swap_free: weirness
>swap_free: swap-space map bad (page 64)
>swap_free: weirness
>..
>swap_free: weirness

>unable to handle kernel page request at address c0000500
>Oops: 0000
>EIP: 0008:0000B758
>EFLAGS: 00010206
>fs: 0017
>base: 00000000, limit: c0000000
>Pid: 1, precess nr: 1
>8b 13 85 d2 74 22 83 3a 01 75

>At first I thought that I must have gotten a bad simm, but I have
>tested the RAM using DOS Checkit 3.0, and it finds no problems.  Linux
>works fine if I disable the RAM that I added.  I haven't got a clue.

>Has anyone else had a similar problem?
>Can anyone recommend a diagnostic tool that may be more thorough than
>Checkit?

>Thanks in advance
>Mark McCoy
>st1n2@jetson.uh.edu

I have heard of memory problems like this in the past for linux and other
programs that access memory fully. Check to make sure your bios is fully
caching the new memory and knows its there.

Also, make sure the simms you just bought are the exact same as the ones you
have in. 90% of memory problems is because some simms just don't like to
work with others..

James
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From: jbh@feenix.metronet.com (Justin B Harvey)
Subject: Linux Standards Need Improvment
Organization: Texas Metronet Communications Services, Dallas TX
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 08:32:26 GMT

I think that each software package should have a universal standaard
file or directory of the files that are needed to compile or run
the program or util.  I find it very confusing to figure out what
to ftp.
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From: kfisher3@mach1.wlu.ca (kevin fisher U)
Subject: GCC and reliability
Summary: is it reliable??
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 06:15:13 GMT


Ok, after reading a number of posts, and experiencing my own frustrations
with GCC, I have this question:  is GCC stable enough to use for "serious"
(TM) programming, or learing something, like C++?

Currently, I'm getting an internal compiler error when I try to compile a
C++ program, with no indication as to why.

Any comments from the c/c++ guru's out there???


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From: [NOT FOUND] (Yudha Renesanto)
Subject: TRIDENT 9000
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 13:07:44 GMT

Can X work with my Trident 9000 (512k) vga card.....?
.

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: marcf@nexus.yorku.ca (Marc G Fournier)
Subject: Telnet...setting up
Organization: York University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 02:29:38 GMT

Hi...

	1...does anyone have a good 'procedure' set up to
	    configure the telnet stuff to work?

	2...what does 'No root nameservers for class 1' mean?

Thanks...

Marc
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From: futeh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Futeh Kao)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: where can I find text2ps?
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:19:37 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

The subject says it all. Where can I find the source code for
text2ps? please e-mail to futeh@crocodile.cm.utexas.edu
From: ccasted@prism.gatech.EDU (Edward Deering Boykin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Makeing new kernel
Date: 25 Dec 92 16:34:50 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I am getting ready to 'make' linux 99.1 kernel. Do I unpack linux-0.99.1.tar.Z
in root or /usr/linux ? After I successfully compile (:)) what then
does the makefile automatically update whatever has to be done or do I need
to move some file around ? If so which files are they and where do they go.
Do I need to create a new boot floppy or does it not matter? If I
do need to create one how do I go about doing it?

I do not have linux source allready on my filesystem.

Also I would like to update my gcc-libs to 2.3.2 fron 2.2.2d. How do I go 
about doing this. Should I just create a new directory in the same place
as 2.2.2d ? 

Help would be appreciated very much. Thanks folks



Ed Boykin
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From: sdw@meaddata.com (Stephen Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux and OS/2
Date: 3 Jan 1993 21:53:37 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
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Rogier Wolff (wolff@zen.et.tudelft.nl) wrote:
: sdw@meaddata.com (Stephen Williams) writes:
: 
..
: >They could run unpriviliged and have the priviliged instructions
: >emulated.
: 
: Nope. The problem is that the instructions to enter/leave priviliged
: mode do not fault. This means that the controlling OS doesn't knoww
: wether to handle the fault by emulation or by passing it along to the 
: other OS.
This was what I hadn't investigated.
I didn't know if it was another hardware deficiency or just lack of
gumption on the part of possible developers.

I am somewhat surprised..  In a user process running under Unix, for
instance, an attempt to execute a priviledged instruction SHOULD
generate an invalid instruction fault, right?  Do you mean that the
processor just skips that instruction with no indication?

: >All it takes is some hard work.
: 
: Nope. You need intel to correct their specs on the 386, and then
: get them to replace existing 386s. Good luck.
No chance, of course.  Maybe AMD/cyrix could start adding features?

: 
: >Note that Soft-PC and Sun-PC both emulate at least a 286 in software,
: >as that is what it takes to run Windows 3.1 (unlike 3.0 which would
: >run on 8086).
: 
: Yes they emulate EVERY instruction in software. What we want here is
: the hardware to run the instructions, and software to handle the
: "too priviliged to be done automatically" things. 
Right.
: 
: >The Sun-PC 486 board even lets you run a full 32-bit application/os's with
: >full vga mapped efficiently onto X windows.
: 
: This is a hardware solution which doesn't correspond with software solutions
: on dos boxes.
Of course not, although there have been hardware solutions similar to
this.  Kind of ridiculous to not be able to share the main cpu...

sdw
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