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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:16:29 EDT
From:         elaine <MOORE2@WKYUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Professional Staffing

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I will send my response to Todd Yeager's query regarding professional
staffing at the reference desk directly to him as requested.  However
I am also sending my response to LIBREF because I believe the pervasive
budget cuts we are all experiencing will generate much immediate interest
on this topic and many of us may not be in a position to wait for
summaries from Todd.  This is the situtation at our library and the
answers to Todd's specific questions.

Our reference room at Western Kentucky University serves 15,000 students
(undergraduate and graduate) and is open 79.5 hours of the 93 hours that
the main library is open per week.  Professionals staff the desk 63 hours
per week, 50 hours monday through friday and 13 hours on the weekends.
This staffing level was introduced during the spring semester.  It
represents a 10 percent reduction (7 hours) in professional staffing
from the fall semester due to the loss of a subject librarian's
position.  We are looking at further cuts and may have to reduce
professional staffing even further.

Specifically, we have reduced overall hours in reference from 85.5 per
week with 16 hours on the weekends to 79.5 hours and 14 hours respectively.
Our hours of service have reduced from 92 percent of main library hours to
85 percent.

Our subject librarians each serve 9 hours per week at the desk; the general
reference librarian 12 hours; coordinators 4 hours and the supervisor 6-7.
Shifts average 3 hours.  Each subject librarian works two weekends a
semester consisting of a 6-hour saturday and 7-hour sunday.

I would appreciate hearing from others about their current staffing or
anticipated changes.  Please respond via LIBREF or to me directly.

Elaine Moore
Reference Services Supervisor
Western Kentucky University
Bowling Green KY 42101

(ph) 502-745-8121
(fax) 502-745-5943
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 21:11:34 EDT
From:         Julianne Williams <williams@admin.ogi.edu>
Subject: Re: Weeding Policy

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We are in the process of coming up with a weeding policy, too.  We are a small
(graduate level only) research university.  If any other small universities
have weeding policies in electronic format, we would appreciate receiving a
copy of them.

Thank you.

Julianne Williams
Ref. Libn.
Oregon Graduate Institute  (williams@admin.ogi.edu)
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:40:22 EDT
From:         Diane DiMartino <DJDBB@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Lexis/Nexis

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Baruch College has a subscription to Lexis/Nexis through its educational
program.  Many graduate students and faculty are now trained to search Lexis.
We recently agreed to an increase in password fees (from $320
per month to $500 per month for 3 passwords) so that we could retain
full text printing and downloading capabilities.  Within the past two
weeks, however, we have received letters from Mead Data indicating that
we should try to restrict printing/downloading full text to (only)
200 lines per search, and  encourage faculty to use the service
only for research within the curriculum, and not for their
own "professional papers". Massive downloading/printing has apparently
caused some unanticipated problems for Mead; in some cases they have
cancelled contracts where they have found abuses.

I'd appreciate hearing especially from other LEXIS/NEXIS subscribers on their
ideas on "taming the beast."

Thanks!

Diane DiMartino
Director, Graduate Business Resource Center
Baruch College Library, CUNY
DJDBB@CUNYVM.BITNET
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 08:50:35 EDT
From:         Larry <larry8@emx.cc.utexas.edu>
Subject:      Librarians use of Usenet

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I am in the process of collecting stories about the use of Usenet as a
library resource, especially reference and collection development.  Any
replies (either by e-mail or posted to this group) would be appreciated.
I will post a summary of e-mailed responses.

Thanks

 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\Larry Gainor//////////////////////////////////
(((Graduate School of Library and Information Science | University of Texas)))
{{{Internet: larry8@emx.cc.utexas.edu  |  Bitnet lscu267@utxvm.cc.utexas.edu}}}
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:54:27 EDT
From:         Raleigh Muns <SRCMUNS@UMSLVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      ComIndex

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We recently received a mailing from the Communication Institute for
Online Scholarship (CIOS) about a product called ComIndex:

     "The ComIndex system places at your patrons' finger tips
     complete citations to more than 12,000 articles from more
     than 30 communication journals."

The cost of this diskette-based system is only $300.00 for up to 5
simultaneous users which makes the whole deal worth looking into.

Does anyone know anything about CIOS or ComIndex? Respond to me
personally and if it warrants, I'll post a summary to the LIST.

Raleigh Muns / Ref. Librarian / Thomas Jefferson Library
University of Missouri, St. Louis / Bitnet: SRCMUNS@UMSLVMA
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:00:53 EDT
From:         duncan@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu
Subject:      Batter Up!

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.
.
If it exists, can anyone point out a source where I can find biographies of
obscure major league baseball players, with particular emphasis on their
lives off the field?
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If you can help, please respond direct and not to the list.
.
Thanks, J.Duncan
	duncan@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 10:00:05 EDT
From:         ACADAMEN@STMARYTX.BITNET
Subject:      LC Subject Headings

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Does anyone know of a library that would be able to use hardbound copies of
the 13th and 14th editions of the LC Sub.Headings (1990, 1991)?  Please
reply to me, not the list.

Kathy Amen
St. Mary's Univ. Academic Library
One Camino Santa Maria
San Antonio, TX 78228-8608
ACADAMEN@STMARYTX.BITNET
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:52:10 EDT
From:         "John R. Likins" <jrlikins@COLBY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: De Selby
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I have Flann O'Brien's The Third Policeman right here & Marie Kelly is
absolutely right  - De Selby's fictional! Thanks, that saves a lot of
useless running around - the wonders of Internet!! John Likins
					           Colby College
						   Waterville, Maine 04901
						   (jrlikins@colby.edu)
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 08:53:13 EDT
From:         pam epe <pamepe@cc.uow.edu.au>
Subject:      Weeding Policy

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We are about to formulate a weeding policy for our reference collection and
would be interested in receiving a copy of any available policies (in
electronic form) if possible, from US institutions of similar size.
Our library system comprises one central library and a separate law library.
The University of Wollongong is a medium sized Australian university of
approx 9000 students.
Please reply direct to me rather than the list.
Thank you
Pam Epe
Research Services Librarian
University of Wollongong (pamepe@uow.edu.au)
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:06:51 EDT
Reply-To:     Steven Gerstle <gerstle@cloy.Oswego.EDU>
From:         Steven Gerstle <gerstle@cloy.Oswego.EDU>
Subject:      RE: disposal of discarded materials horror stories

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I don't see how the decision of the librarians to discard the
Congressional Record was in error.  Obviously, the History department
thought that the stupid librarians were throwing out important documents.
Libraries are always running out of room and converting to microform.
Probably, the stack shift never occurred because the documents librarian, who
planned the shift, left the position.

Too many librarians live in fear of discarding the "wrong" book.  Most
college libraries cannot and should not keep everything.  One can always
dream up some possible use for any book that is discarded.  This has to be
balanced off with requiring students to browse through dozens of outdated
and obscure books, in order to find the few vital ones most want.

The true horror is that we cannot purchase needed new reference materials
because of budget conditions.  As our collections age, and few dollars are
available to update materials, students have a harder time finding current
information.  Keeping five or ten or fifteen year old directories can do
more damage than good.  Yes, there are an unlimited number of professors
who may get apoplectic if their "favorite" book disappears from the
library, but is this our prime motivation?

Sorry to get a bit heated about this, but the killer for me was that a
member of the History department was made the temporary Dean of Libraries.
Was s/he a librarian?  If not, would a librarian be made temporary chair
of the History department?


Steven Gerstle
Coordinator of Reference, Instruction & Databases
Penfield Library
SUNY, Oswego
Oswego, NY 13126

voice: 315-341-3554

internet: gerstle@oswego.oswego.edu
bitnet:   gerstle@snyoswva
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 10:41:43 EDT
From:         FRAZIER@WVNWVSC.BITNET
Subject:      Publishing credit

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I've got a question directed to any librarians who've done some publishing or
journal editing.  At what point in the writing/editing process for an
article does an uncompensated informal editor become a second author?  Must
the editor contribute beyond matters of style and presentation to actual
study design or data interpretation?  It's fairly common for abuses to take
place in joint authorship of scientific articles, but I'm curious what the
ethical guidelines call for in publishing in our area.  Does it matter if
the "editorial consultant" isn't a librarian?  Respond directly, or to the
list if you think others would be interested.

Stuart Frazer
West Virginia State College Library
Frazier@wvnwvsc
Frazier@wvnwvsc.wvnet.edu
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:07:25 EDT
From:         "Terry.Link" <20676TPL@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      your favorite for core list, ple

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_Z Magazine_ current issue (August?) pp123-125 has an annotated list "Summer
Multicultural Reading" that might be useful.

all good things,

Terry Link
Michigan State University
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:06:37 EDT
From: Sue Jones <RBRSEJ@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
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Subject: Re: unknown database

HS Database ==> HSDB?  ==> Hazardous Substance Data Base on NLM's Toxnet?

My Toxnet Brief Guide to Searching indicates that "HSDB is a factual
databank focusing upon the toxicology of over 4300 potentially hazardous
chemicals.  In addition to toxicity data, it carries information in such
areas as emergencymedical treatment, safety and handling, environmental
fate, exposure potential,and regulatory requirements."

I've got to add that this has to be one of the most value-packed databases
that NLM has.  It is peer-reviewed, has manufacturing and use information,
and when the chemical that you're looking for is in the database, there's
usually a gold mine of information.

Hope this helps.

Sue Jones
Rohm & Haas Co.
Bristol, PA
Internet address: ROHVM1.RBRSEJ@ROHMHAAS.COM
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:04:45 EDT
From:         "Corey Murata" <coreym@uhunix.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Librarian of Congress

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>certainly isn't proof of competence.  I seriously doubt whether the stars
>in the field of library and information science would list their M.L.S.
>as an important contributing factor to their achievement.  Nuclear submarine

No, but they were librarians.  They understood the needs of a library and
the philosophies of the profession.  I'm not saying that librarians are the
only ones who have this knowledge and understanding, but I would be
inclined to believe that a librarian would be better able to defend the
needs of the library come budget time than someone who has never worked in
a library.

>was not given priority due to their MLS.  Sorry, I would opt for the
>for the known and respected scholar or man/woman of letters every time.
>People like Archibald Macleish and Daniel Boorstin lend dignity and
>respect to the profession by their acceptance of the title if only for
>a short time.  I prefer that to the choice of some hack administrator
>who may be prominent in our field at the time.  I have never responded

Are we so pathetic a profession that we need a "respected scholar" from
another field to "lend dignity and respect to the profession by their
acceptance of the title"?! Is a "hack administrator" such a bad thing if
he/she can GET THE JOB DONE? I've seen what happens with political
appointments of people who don't even have the time of day.

We're not going to gain respect by getting respected people to accept our
title, we have to get it for ourselves.

aloha,
Cm

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Corey Murata                    coreym@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu
U of Hawaii, Hamilton Library   coreym@uhunix.bitnet
General & Hum/Soc Sci Ref       (808) 956-2527
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Regarding the discussion of the history professor who was made dean of
libraries and the related comment about the librarian of congress not having
an M.L.S. ,  is the possession of the M.L.S. really that important?  It
certainly isn't proof of competence.  I seriously doubt whether the stars
in the field of library and information science would list their M.L.S.
as an important contributing factor to their achievement.  Nuclear submarine
commanders and brain surgeons aside, I think experience and post degree
education carries far more importance.
ArtL@uca.edu   Art Lichtenstein, Torreyson Library, UCA
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From:         Eric Albright <albright@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
Subject:      Re: unknown database
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> Does anybody know of a database call HS Database.  A post grad student
> heard of it, but is unsure of what or how.  The subject area is chemicals
> in the environment.

> Maryanne Ashton
> Reference Librarian
> University of Western Sydney, Hawkesbury

I believe you are referring to HSDB, which is one of the TOXNET databases
available from the National Library of Medicine (US). It specializes in
hazardous chemicals, their toxicity, exposure potential and production.
Please contact NLM for more details. (mms@medlars.nlm.nih.gov)


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Reference Librarian
Galter Health Sciences Library		(312) 503-8109
Northwestern University
303 East Chicago Ave                    e-albright@nwu.edu
Chicago, IL 60611
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Subject:      unknown database

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Does anybody know of a database call HS Database.  A post grad student
heard of it, but is unsure of what or how.  The subject area is chemicals
in the environment.

Any assistance will be welcome.

Maryanne Ashton
Reference Librarian
University of Western Sydney, Hawkesbury
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From:         "Elizabeth Goldsmith,
              Lib. Reference-TWU 817-898-3700" <S_GOLDSMITH@TWU.BITNET>
Subject:      Introductory Internet BI - Info needed

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***This message has been cross-posted to PACS-L, BI-L, and REF-L.  Please
pardon the duplication.***

I have recently taken on the challenging task of preparing an introductory
bibliographic instruction session about the Internet for our (academic) library
users.  The goal of these sessions is to introduce potential users to this
wonderful research tool, to provide some idea of its exciting possibilities,
and to orient them in its use.  The b.i. session should last no more than one
hour and contain a mixture of classroom "lecture" and live demonstration, with
the possibility of hands-on follow-up after the class.

The problem in designing such a session comes from the vast array of resources
accessible on the Internet.  I don't want to overwhelm users (e-mail, ftp,
telnet, sites, commands, etiquette) but do, as noted, want to get them excited
by the Internet's possibilities and give them enough information (through
demonstration and handouts) to get them started.  I have noted an increasing
number of messages on these lists requesting sources of information about the
Internet which can be used in preparing instruction sessions; however, I have
yet to locate suggestions and guidelines about HOW MUCH information should be
presented and the format (handouts, overheads, etc) in which it should be
presented.

Therefore, I would appreciate input from any academic librarians who currently
offer such introductory instruction sessions (or who are preparing to do so).
Please share your ideas about the quantity and format of the information to be
presented in an orienting/introductory session.  In addition, if you could
s-mail copies of any handouts and/or visual aids used in your sessions, it
would help tremendously.

Please respond directly to me.  I will summarize for the lists.  Thanks MUCH in
advance.


Elizabeth Goldsmith
Blagg-Huey Library Reference Dept.
Texas Woman's University
P.O. Box 23715
Denton, TX 76204
(s_goldsmith@twu.the.net)
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Subject:      flavorance

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Has anyone heard of a group called CORB?
All I know is that it has to do with the area of flavor, aroma, flavorance
... I search encyclopedias of associations and FSTA hoping to find it as an
acronym for author but I was unsuccessful.
Any clues are welcome
Merci
Helene Sabourin
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From:         R James Tobin <tobin@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
Subject:      Re: How to spell fascism
              "QUINN%GONZAGA.BITNET@Kentvm.Kent.edu" at Jul 22, 92 11:03 am

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> So a book containing "fascisms" might include reproductions of
> propoganda posters from Mussolini's Italy?
>
Now about the word "propaganda"...!!
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