HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: High heels (was Re: What is attractive to women?)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 23:32:21 GMT

In article <MARTINC.92Nov21140626@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>In article <1992Nov21.114754.28288@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>
>   Trygve   (Later, they went on to create the "law" of clothing design that
>	     people larger than Michael J. Fox wear only plaid polyester and
>	     that people with larger waistlines have the same size thighs as
>	     people with smaller waistlines.) 
>
>
>Don't forget the one that says people with > 48 inch chests have waists
>*bigger* than their chests.

Trust me, I didn't forget that one.  (I may never get a chance to forget
that one--any more than I can forget the law that all men occupy the same
volume; thus, men with large chests and necks are very short and men with
long arms and legs are very thin.)

Trygve
From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:14:18 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <15602@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:

>|They also landed me on crutches for the past three months.  I just
>|recently burned my last pair of high heels.  They sat on the log in the
>|fireplace for a few moments, then -- WHOOSH!  They burst into flame.

>Interesting.  Women used to burn their brassieres.  Men didn't complain.  
>I wonder what'll happen if women start burning their highheeled shoes.

Well, my DB (dearly beloved) built the fire and even positioned the shoes
for optimal flammability.  But then, he's a podiatry student.



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if only from time to time.     -- Annie Dillard, "An American Childhood"
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: mpiet@is.morgan.com (Mark Pietrasanta)
Subject: Re: Being Alone? - Feedback/Survey
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:05:59 GMT

I am looking for feedback regarding relationships that people have
had and what their individual experiences were.  I have a number of
questions for anyone who is willing to spend a little time answering
them.  This is for a paper.

I am specifically interesting in people who have had failed relationships,
either having been broken up with or the person who broke the relations.
Also, either currently 'recovering' or can look at their recovery in 
retrospect.

All comments will be kept confidential.  Please e-Mail me if you are
willing to provide some of your personal experiences.

Thanks in advance.
(This is a late cross-post from alt.romance.)
-- 
Mark Pietrasanta - mpiet@is.morgan.com
* * * * * * * * *

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from
mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein

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Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles
From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Subject: Re: The older woman
Keywords: Stef Jones
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:38:06 GMT

ala@fico.UUCP (Adryenn Ashley) writes:

] davidj@wrs.com (David Jones) writes:
] >Stef Jones writes (among other things):
] >"The older woman flirts with a self-controlled awareness
] >which can make her assaults much more deadly than the
] >blind rushes of the young"
] But after a while it gets to be like shooting fish in a barrel.  There
] is no challange.  I mean, you look at them, they fall at your feet
] panting, and so on.  :)

You've been hanging around Ultimate Frisbee
teams also???

] >I know you've heard this one before (an ``older woman'' has most 
] >likely herd it ALL before), but, what constitutes an older woman?
] anybody a day or more older than you are.

well - I've always said that it's anyone from 20
seconds to 20,000 years older.

It's being a PROBLEMOlderWoman that takes the
skill, know-how, etc.

All in the attitude, y'know!

] I would have gaged him as well.

Ummm - is that "gagged", or "gauged"?
and if the latter - is that in inches,
feet, or centimeters?

Diana - POW, of course!
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Smiths & Joneses
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:02:25 GMT



I have been looking through my email files lately and made a discovery...

"Smith" and "Jones" appear to be names as common as they are portrayed in 
many stereotypes...These names are also portrayed in such a way as to invoke
images of averageness or dullness.

To all the Smiths and Joneses in my files:

Thank you for destroying a stereotype and killing some myths about your
last names...At least in my imagination.

YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!

Now I feel as if *my* name is common!!! :+)

dreas 

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: dks@sr.com (Dave K. Sprow)
Subject: Re: Money and the Single World (was: Education and the Single World
Reply-To: dks@srhqla.UUCP (Dave K. Sprow)
Organization: Silent Radio, Los Angeles
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:06:21 GMT

In article <1e0okcINN51f@FUNCTOR.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU> loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore) writes:
>dbj@cs.washington.edu (Dave Johnson) writes:
>
>   loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore) writes:
>   >                              I don't have extravagant spending habits
>   >myself, but since I usually have more money than I know what to do
>   >with I never worry too much about budgeting or running around trying
>   >to find the best deal on something I do want to buy.  
>
>   Sandra, will you marry me?  Or at least "keep" me?
>
>Sorry, Dave.  I *do* tend to shop around for the best deal when it
>comes to SOs, rather than take home the first one who happens to show
>up!  Gotta make sure I get a quality product, sturdy and reliable with
>a "Good Housekeeping" seal of approval and a money-back guarantee!  :-)
>
>(And anyway, I'd expect my partner to be able to "keep" himself....)
>
>-Sandra the cynic

Well, are you at least accepting resumes??

David S.


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 10:33:14 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Nov22.043524.6806@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:
>>|>Au contraire, high-heeled shoes are used to create a supernormal stimulus,
>>|>just like lipstick, neck rings, brassieres, corsets, bustles, and foot-
>>|>binding.  
>>|They also landed me on crutches for the past three months.  I just
>>|recently burned my last pair of high heels.  They sat on the log in the
>>|fireplace for a few moments, then -- WHOOSH!  They burst into flame.
>>Interesting.  Women used to burn their brassieres.  Men didn't complain.  
>>I wonder what'll happen if women start burning their highheeled shoes.
>     I'd imagine that the men would clap and say "good riddance."

The short ones would.
:)
r.
(its a joke see -> :)
From: skc@Turing.ORG (Shriram K. Chaubal)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Are you a Young Transplant?
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:28:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: murdoch.1992Nov16.162836.19047
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.

In article <1992Nov15.210121.18247@bnlux1.bnl.gov> schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
>
>I'm just curious, because I suspect that this is a pretty big problem
>for a lot of recently graduated people.  (I got out of grad school a
>couple of years ago myself, and have yet to adjust to the move).

It is really difficult for some.... and for a lot of others I know its
been real easy. 

I moved here to the US, from India, about 5 years ago and ended up in a 
small school in Iowa (Ok they gave me a better financial package than any
other school... I suspect this happened cuz they didn't have any Indian
students at that time.) That move was *fun* I made lots of friends with
the international students and most of the other students.

After graduation, I've move about 3 times .. and have noticed that the 
better the job... the harder its getting for me to meet people. Seems like
some of my fellow graduates who have taken up jobs as social workers have
had a better time than me.

Well I am not really complaining, I live in Cincinnati... the cultural groin
of the Midwest, I met a cute gal a few weeks ago who asked me what I did,
I told her I was a Senior Engineer in a software company. I saw the glazed eyes
and simplyfied things a little ... "I work a lot with Computers". Her eyes
lit up.... "Oh you mean ... duh ... like at Radio Shack! Cool!".

Hmmm... why is it, that whenever I start a post on a non tech forum I tend
to ramble :-) :-)...

So much for now .... Hasta la Goodbye!

Shriram
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com (Chris Hudson)
Subject: Re: >Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6
Reply-To: rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:07:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.074512.4835@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
|> In article <BxuAFG.5Lu@plato.ds.boeing.com> mattb@ssc-vax.boeing.com (Matt Baney) writes:
|> >In article <1992Nov16.125356.2348@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
|> >>
|> >>Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6
|> >>
|> >Sorry for stupid question, this is probably a faq, but I have seen
|> >this several times would someone please let me know what it means??
|> 
|> Well, I suppose this means that I ought to post the informal FAQ again
|> (suggestions for additional items to add, delete, or change welcome).
|> 
|>  
|> FAQ         Frequently Asked Question(s)

Sorry, but this gave me the urge to say 'Just the FAQ's, man.'

Chris Hudson
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: daniel@clsi.COM (Daniel Barclay)
Subject: Re: Argh! Total, Complete misery.
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: CAD Language Systems Inc.
	<1992Nov5.180142.26353@cbnews.cb.att.com>
	<1992Nov6.061049.23905@samba.oit.unc.edu>
	<1992Nov13.221808.3413@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
	<1992Nov18.204949.22429@gvl.unisys.com>
Date: 19 Nov 92 12:19:24

> Mine's for sale...and it's a four-posted one.  Of course you'll have to wait
> till after the boink!
> 
> Liz Loquacious

You know, I have this image in my mind of four net.posters standing at the
corners of the bed holding a canopy over Allisson.
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: MICH <MICH@UNB.CA>
Subject: RE: Who is Reading?
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:32:44 GMT

In article <5731@jptcs.COM> tps@jptcs.COM (Tim Sailer) writes:
>
>Just curious.. is anyone from Maine reading this group? Is there snow yet?
>We left Abbott this morning (Sunday) and they said flurries... we drove
>through a lot in Conn....

     I'm not from Maine but I'm writing from southern New Brunswick
 which is right beside that state. We had a couple ofinches on the
 ground this morning and so Maine probably got dumped on as well.

 Jamie Mitchell

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Are you a Young Transplant?
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:46:14 GMT

In article <74341@apple.apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
>
>>how many of you
>>reading this are recent college grads that have accepted that High
>>Paying Job that you went to school for in the first place that is
>>located somewhere other than where you were either (a)raised,
>>(b)schooled, or (c)would like to be?  Have you become involved with
>>someone that you met since you moved to said location?  
>
>I spent my first four years after school living somewhere that I didn't
>really feel was my home. Although I managed to develop a social network 
>there, I was pretty much unremittantly single the whole time. After
>I moved somewhere where I felt at home, my love life and my social life in
>general improved dramatically.

I understand your point entirely.  Ever since I arrived here, I've
always felt like a "foreigner".  It's not a very (shall we say)
'homogenous' area, IMHO.  You either belong to this culture because you
were raised in it, or you're on the outside.  Period.  Feeling at home,
while sounding like a very ephemeral concept, is very important.

>The point of this is, unless you really love your job, don't stay somewhere
>you don't like, any longer than necessary. It can affect you in subtle ways.

I believe that it already has, and it worries me quite a bit.

>For example, I'm convinced that if you don't like where you live, it can be
>harder to get involved with someone because you may subconsciously have one
>foot already out the door, and may be trying to avoid the possibility of 
>being tied down to that place. 

Boy, have you got this pegged.  I've often wondered if that wasn't part
of the problem.  Since it's always been unacceptable for me to imagine
that I'd end up living here for a very long time, I tend to keep
thinking that my life is really just in a holding pattern, and if I can
just bear the 'hold' long enough, I'll  work on starting things fresh in
some other location.



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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: liz@prc.unisys.com (Liz Loquacious)
Subject: Philly Boink - Did anyone not get the mail?
Originator: liz@sequoia
Organization: Paoli Reseach Center - Paoli, PA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:39:37 GMT

Hi, I mailed the details, meeting times, etc. for the Philly Boink
yesterday and am posting to make sure that I didn't miss anyone who 
expected to get it.  If I did please email me.  

For Jeff Wall, saw your post and both Sheba and I have mailed you
but haven't heard from you.  If you still can't get us through
email please call.  My work number's in the sig.

Liz Loquacious - only 3 days till the Philly Boink!


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From: wtr@mitre.org (Bill Ralston)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Blood types
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:51:02 GMT
Followup-To: soc.singles
Distribution: usa
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <lg8potINNhhj@news.bbn.com>, ahsiung@bbn.com (Anita Hsiung)
wrote:
> 
> So, is there any truth to the blood type and personality relationship?
> I had lunch with a friend today who claims that this is true, and so
> does my mother.  Incidentally, so do most Chinese people.  This is the
> approximate breakdown:
> 
> 	Type	Personality
> 
> 	 A	Love a person forever, wait for someone forever
> 	 B	(Sorry, forgot)
> 	 AB	Fluctuates, quickly gets in and out of infatuations
> 	 O	Warm, logical
> 
> Of course, I found this rather difficult to believe.  There must be
> more than four types of people in this world!  But, I'm an AB and I do
> fall in and out of infatuation rather easily.  My friend's an A and
> she will wait hopelessly for this dumb, rude AB guy.
> 
> Any takes?
> 
> 	-- Anita --

Here's one data point - I'm type O and consider myself warm and logical.

I think it probably works because of the same basic idea as the zodiac
based personality typings.  Individuals exhibit a number of traits in
differing degrees of expression.  You build a list of traits, ascribe them
to some arbitrary index (blood type, birthdate, birthyear, ear size,
whatever...) and ask folks if they match up.  The mind is very good at
picking up on patterns and will find correlations even when the underlying
statistical data has none. 

Regarding blood types, why are vampires are considered sexy? (And do they
have any particular preferences regarding blood types?)

-- Bill
-- wtr@mitre.org 
* If my employer knew what I was posting, I'd probaby be unemployed *
From: fy03+@andrew.cmu.edu (Francis J. Yenca)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Smiles, Food, and Other Ways of Seducing Women
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:23:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.8f23hsO00WAw8nv1h8
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Stef Jones writes:

>If he smiles at me but doesn't touch me, things might take longer but the
>result will probably wind up the same. I might say I'm attracted to him,
>or initiate some kind of physical contact myself and see what happens.

:-)

Frank

P.S. Yeah, I know it's silly, but someone had to do it. (Unless someone else
who has an equally dumb sense of humor got there first.)

P.P.S. I still think Stef has the best posts...
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas)
Subject: Re: girl/lady/female boy/guy/male
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 04:03:02 GMT

In article 722378344@convex.convex.com, thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
>In <MARTINC.92Nov19144038@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>
>>   }(still can't find a way of getting 'igneous' into a pun :)
>
>>   Sedimentary my dear rON.
>>   You just have to come up with an igneous idea, of quartz.
>
>>That's not gneiss.
>
>This newsgroup really is going to schist, isn't it?

Blueschist, to be precise.

dreas
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Are you a Young Transplant?
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:25:05 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Nov18.180304.19272@b8.b8.ingr.com> larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:
>In article <lgipf2INN78a@news.bbn.com>, dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
|> 
|> For the love of god, will you get rid of this miserable sig before I lose
|> all faith in humanity and tote a gun up to some McDonalds somewhere and
|> blow hell out of some innocent people?  I'm close enough to doing that at
|> the best of times, you wouldn't want to be the final straw would you?  
|
|Are we having a bad day Dawn?  This presents an interesting question.  I 
|haven't had much of an effect on anyone for so long, maybe this could be the way
|back from my total isolationism.  BTW if you do, please take pictures and send
|me a copy.
|
|I drew up that sig for the humor impaired, since I often forget to add the
|little :) after a joke and so many on the net take everything serious if you
|forget that.  I've had the pants flamed off me several times for this, and while
|having the pants warmly removed, that is a little warmer than I want.
 
I'm with Dawn on this one (woo woo).  For those that are capable of 
recoginzing sarcasm the large smiley face came across as kind of insulting.
The way I see it, it's up to me to write such that, if I'm being sarcastic
it can be recognized as such.  Good sarcasm/satire is easily recognized,
if it is written well.  Poorly written sarcasm/satire like any other
style might potentially need large flashing warning signs.  If I write
an article that is intended to be sarcastic and I am flamed for it there
are two possiblities.  Either it's my own damn fault for writing a poor
article or some people "just don't get it".  There's not much I can do
about those people.  They're not my responsiblity.

|> (I'm not being a net.cop, you understand.  I'm just threatening you with
|> physical violence if I'm not happy.  I do that a lot; it seems to work
|> well.)
|
|Gee Dawn, now I'm all misty-eyed, no one has cared enough to beat me in such a 
|long time, Please hurt me GOOD!  Hit me, beat me, make me write bad checks.

The way I heard was, hurt me, beat me, make me feel cheap.

-- 
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| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
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From: tps@jptcs.COM (Tim Sailer)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: 17 Nov 92 07:23:33 GMT
Reply-To: tps@jptcs.com
Organization: JPT Computer Solutions, Port Jeff Station, NY
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Sandra Loosemore (loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu) wrote:
: a dress, and I wouldn't be caught dead in high heels either.
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Now THAT'S a shame! :(

: -Sandra the cynic

Tim the soon-to-be-crispy-from-all-the-flames

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JPT Computer Solutions - SCO Sales/Consulting/Administration and Mangling
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(516) 331-9001
From: diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: 24 Nov 92 02:11:51 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Nov24.003925.5742@fid.morgan.com> sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
>
>There's a difference between being friendly and being overly familiar.
>Using a diminutive of someone else's name without permission is
>insulting (haven't we just had that thread?).  Using someone's first
>name is friendly (in the US; it's considered overly familiar in Europe
>unless you know the person very well).

This is exactly what I meant.  I don't mind familiarity from persons
with whom I actually am familiar (my father calls me "Bethie", for 
example, and one of my best friends occasionally teases me by calling
me a variant of "Liz" that I can't even bear to type) but woe
betide the stranger or casual acquaintance who tries any of this.

By the way, thanks to everyone who stuck up for my right to be called
by my name. :-)

>Beth, (I can call her that, she signed email to me that way) 

Seth, after that backrub you emailed me, you can call me anything
you like.  :-)    

>have you tried correcting anyone who
>called you Liz that your name is "Ms. Abrams"?  (I wonder how long
>they'd take to catch on.)

My reaction varies.  If the person is well-meaning and just confused,
I tend to either ignore them or gently correct them, at least the first
time, and place a small check mark in the negative column of my assesment
of their manners.  If the person follows up their overly familiar 
address with other unwanted familiarities I tend to avoid that person
from then on.  I've never tried anything as pointed as what you 
suggest, but I'll keep it in mind for a day on which I'm feeling
particularly prickly.

			--Diamond

diamond@acpub.duke.edu |   The soul may choose its own society and shut
Elizabeth S. Abrams    |   the door, but the body gets thrown into bed
		       |   with the damnedest people.  --Peter Beagle