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From: pavlov@niktow.canisius.edu (Greg Pavlov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Is it Sunset yet?!?!
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:13:04 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sgi
Organization: Canisius College, Buffalo NY. 14208

In article <1993Jan6.203033.8638@cc.umontreal.ca>, soubyran@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Soubyran Richard) writes:
> 
> Having the January 1993 BYTE almost in front of me... there is an
> ad from Sun showing their SPARCstation LX at 59 mips. I know! I
> know! I know! Mips are meaningless... but still... can be really
> impressive!
> 
> My question to you is this: What does SGI has to say about that
> workstation? Does SGI has anything similar to it? And for the same
> price? We have many Indigoes here at the University of Montreal...
> and I am more than satisfied with their performance...
> 
> I would just like a comparison between the Sun and a similar
> product from SGI...
> 

  Well, at this stage of the game, just about the only companies that still
  advertise "MIP numbers" are SUN and the Intel-based PC vendors.  

  The following are numbers from the January 1993 Unix Review issue, which
  contained a review of the newest Indigo.  They also provided the same numbers
  for some other systems, including the SUN 4/75 SPARCstation 2. I assume that
  you can extrapolate the SUN numbers to the SPARC LX:


                      SGI Indigo R4000     SUN 4/75 SPARC 2

  Processor MHz                50                   40

  Dhrystone 1.1               147K                  48K
  Dhrystone 2.0               131K                  40K

  Whetstones single            52.6                 29.3
  Whetstones double            41.5                 19.5

  MFLOPS single                10.8                  6.3
  MFLOPS double                 9.4                  3.1

  SPECmarks (prob. 1989)       69.6                 18.9

 *Sequential disk test       1707KB/sec            602KB/sec
 *"Random" disk test         1219KB/sec            328KB/sec
   (*8192-byte blocks)

  "Khornerstones"        
   (cpu,fpu,disk test mix)    138K                  43K

  

  Base configuration: 16MB memory, 16-inch color monitor,"entry-level graphics"
                      OS, manuals

  Base config list price:    $12,485

  Tested configuration: 1.2 GB disk, 16 MB additional ram, software options

  Tested config list price:  $21,475
                        


   greg pavlov
   pavlov@fstrf.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: jeff@dsp.sps.mot.com (Jeff Enderwick)
Subject: (I am so dumb!) 2 heads under X on a Sun.
Organization: Motorola DSP Compilers
Distribution: comp
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:22:19


Sorry, I asked this question before, and I accidentally deleted the reply. 
I would be so thankful if someone would fill me in again!

I'm trying to get 2 color monitors to work with a single SparcStation 1
and two GX boards. Which "contrib" package will allow that to happen ?

	thanks again,

	Jeff Enderwick
	jeff@dsp.sps.mot.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: chicken@npac.syr.edu (Mark R. Levinson)
Subject: Re: Old Sun question - HELP!!!!!
Organization: NPAC, Syracuse University - Syracuse, New York (USA)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 20:51:21 EST

earle@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Greg Earle - Gainfully Unemployed) writes:
>4000 and Sysgen SC-4000).  A common high-end configuration would have been:
>
>Slot	Contents
>----	--------
> 1	Sun-2 CPU board
> 2	Sun-2 1 Mbyte Main Memory
> 3	Sun-2 1 Mbyte memory expansion card
> 4	Sun-2 Ethernet board (or 3Com)
> 5	Sun-2 SCSI Host Adapter
> 6	Sun-2 Video
> 7	Xylogics 450 SMD disk controller board
> 8	Sky Floating Point Processor board
> 9	Sun Color Video Controller

	Just out of curiosity, anyone know how much a configuration like this
would've sold for back around '85 or so?

--
Mark R. Levinson
Northeast Parallel Architectures Center
Syracuse University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: deraadt@newt.cuc.ab.ca (Theo de Raadt)
Subject: Re: Sun's ZS chips (was Re: Old Sun question - HELP!!!!!)
Organization: little lizard city
	<1993Jan6.115253.19572@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
	<1993Jan9.022926.26234@siemens.com>
	<1993Jan10.150522.8160@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:54:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.150522.8160@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> lindh@uhasun.hartford.edu (Andrew Lindh) writes:
   In article <1993Jan9.022926.26234@siemens.com>, aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri) writes:
   > 
   > >Why the heck did Sun not put better serial chips in their new machines??
   > >Isn't it obvious by now that the Zilog chips SUCK?
   > 
   > What's so terrible about the Zilog chips?
   > ======================================================================8--<

   On a Sun the highest standard speed is 38.4K!!!
   You can't get to 57.6K......

Yes, you can get 57.6K. That's a software problem, (ie. B50, B9600, no B57600).

The real problem is that supporting new-style bidirectional flow control on
those chips is 1) difficult and 2) not done by Sun. Which means modems don't
work as well as they should and could.
 <tdr.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: raju@inso.pr.net.ch (Raju Varghese)
Subject: Intermittent problems with SunCD
Summary: Can someone help me with hardware problems with the SunCD player
Keywords: cdrom, scsi
Organization: IntelliSoft, Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:30:00 GMT

I've been using a SunCD for over a year now without problems and now
it is exhibiting intermittent hardware errors. These manifest themselves
with an error message (when things go well) or a system lockup (when it is
nasty). I'm using a Sun SLC running 4.1.2. The SCSI chain has the following
devices: SunCD, two disks and a terminated QIC tape drive.

Examples of error messages which it reports are:
	vmunix: sr0: disk not responding to selection
	vmunix: sr0: Unit not Ready. Additional sense code 40

	vmunix: esp0: Disconnected command timeout for Target 3 Lun 0
	vmunix: sd0:    SCSI transport failed: reason 'timeout': retrying command

	vmunix: esp0: Spurious data in phase from target 2

	vmunix: sd2:    SCSI transport failed: reason 'reset': retrying command

	vmunix: sr0:	Error for command 'read'
	vmunix:     	Error Level: Fatal         Block: 112
	vmunix:     	Sense Key:   Hardware Error
	vmunix:     	Additional Sense key:   0x9
	vmunix:     	Vendor 'Sony' unique error code: 0x9
	
	vmunix: sr0: Unit not Ready. Additional sense code 87
	

If it doesn't panic I can usually fix it by ejecting the CD and inserting it
again or by twiddling the SCSI cables at the rear of the unit. I have 
disconnected the cables, cleaned the connectors, cleaned the fan, and the
inside. As the SCSI cables are thick and relatively inflexible, I feel that
there is quite some pressure on the female connectors. Could this be the
problem? It looks like a loose contact somewhere. Has anyone noticed this
before?

Any help would be appreciated.

Raju Varghese raju@inso.pr.net.ch
From: Sudeep_-_Narain@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Sparc 1 & 2 scsi compatibility
Date: Thu,  7 Jan 93 16:14:04 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na

Hi, I have an inquiry regarding the scsi compatibility between SPARC Station 
1 and SPARC Station 2. I want to know what is the maximum buffer size
Sparc 1 scsi can handle. Our scsi driver was written & tested for 
a Sparc Station 2 & it works. It also works for an IPX. It does not
work with Sparc 1. I suspect it is the buffer size. Any pointers
will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Sudeep
From: rcsmith@sed.csc.com (Ray Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Kennedy 9610 9-Track tape drive
Date: 5 Jan 93 02:21:14 GMT
Organization: Computer Sciences Corporation - Systems Engineering Division

I have a Kennedy 9610 9-Track tape drive sitting in an old uVAX-II
which hasn't been turned on in a while. Is there anyway to hook this
critter up to a SS2, IPC or Solbourne 4/602?  If you know a way to do
so please send me what I need.

-Ray

P.S. There is also a RD53 stuck in this thing. Is there any sense in
trying to hook it up to one of the above mentioned machines? Or can it
even be hooked up?
-- 
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One of these should work: rcsmith@sed.csc.com   - or -
uunet!anagld!rcsmith    - or -   rcsmith@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu
rcsmith@analytics.com   - or -   RCSmith@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: jacques@srt-poste.fr (Jacques Berthome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: HOW TO USE AN EXABYTE 8500C ON A SUN ?
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:36:08 GMT
Reply-To: jacques@srt-poste.fr
Organization: Service de Recherche Technique de la Poste

HOW TO USE AN EXABYTE 8500C ON A SUN ??
=======================================
Hi!

I just got an exabyte 8500c , that is a 8500 with data compression .
I've already a 8500 on my Sun but , with the same configuration , the 8500c 
doesn'twork !! Is there anything to add in /sys/scsi/targets/st_conf.c  to 
declare the type  ??

when I try to write on the dev , I have the message :
Jan  8 14:53:09 srtp vmunix: st2:	Generic Drive, Vendor=<EXABYTE >
Jan  8 14:53:09 srtp vmunix: 	Unknown type- assuming 0.25 inch cartridge
Jan  8 14:53:09 srtp vmunix: 	Fixed record length (1024 byte blocks) I/O

and the dev is really seen a boot time :
Jan  8 14:51:06 srtp vmunix: st2 at esp0 target 0 lun 0
Jan  8 14:51:06 srtp vmunix: st2: <Vendor 'EXABYTE ' Product 'EXB8500CMTBANXC0'>

If you have information about it , I'm very interested ...

Thanks
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From: soubyran@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Soubyran Richard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Is it Sunset yet?!?!
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:30:33 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Hello Suners and SGIers,

OK! I couldn't think of anything else for a title... anyways... on
with better and bigger things...

Having the January 1993 BYTE almost in front of me... there is an
ad from Sun showing their SPARCstation LX at 59 mips. I know! I
know! I know! Mips are meaningless... but still... can be really
impressive!

My question to you is this: What does SGI has to say about that
workstation? Does SGI has anything similar to it? And for the same
price? We have many Indigoes here at the University of Montreal...
and I am more than satisfied with their performance...

I would just like a comparison between the Sun and a similar
product from SGI...

Thanks in advance

Richard Soubyran
soubyran@alize.ere.umontreal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Info about S-bus framegrabbers sought
From: Olof Olsson <olof@auck.irl.cri.nz>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 02:03:12 GMT
Organization: Industrial research Ltd, Auckland, New Zealand
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7788EB457012840@olof.auck.irl.cri.nz>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 12 Jan 93 15:05:24 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d16

We are wanting to buy some S-bus framegrabbers for our Sun4 workstations.
I would very much like to get some comments and experiences about good
(and bad) framegrabbers and their capabilities/prices.

We have the following requirements:

* At least 2, preferably 3, monochrome (8-bit) inputs (we do not require
color).

* Analog gain and offset must be configurable from software.

* S-bus and Sun IPX compatible.

* Software should be available for interfacing to the board.

* It would be good if 2 framegrabbers can be "synchronised" for 
  grabbing the same frame (from different cameras). 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

      Olof

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: jburne@spock.uucp (John Burnette)
Subject: Re: Why is Sun abandoning SunOS4.1.3?
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:30:16 GMT

I finally took a few minutes to call the technical reps of every software
package running on my 4/300 computer.

The grand tally:  ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!

That's right, I own no software which is currently compatible with 
Solaris 2.1  Less than half of the vendors were currently working on 
a port.

This is making me very curious.  Suppose a "Classic" fell into my lap for
free, say *tomorrow*.  Just what the hell could I run on it?

From where I sit, the vendors aren't abandoning SunOS4.1.3, far from it.

Is Sun sure that all those vendors are going to do what they are being
"forced" to do?

Well I really am interested BTW.  Has any commerial vendor released any 
software for Solaris 2.1?
-- 
John Burnette           // The Opinions expressed above are shareware, they //
Choate Rosemary Hall    // are <<not>> freeware. If you like them and use   //
203-949-0914            // them please send $5 for documentation.           //

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: mal2n@helga1.acc.Virginia.EDU ()
Subject: Video Specification Questions.
Originator: mal2n@helga1.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:49:49 GMT

I have some different questions about the operation of the video output
of all Sun Workstations.  I have a video device that I am working to
make compatible with the Sun.  My questions are:

*  What is the dot clock frequency (in MHz) for 1600x1280 resolution and
   1280x1024 resolution?

*  What are the total number of colors for the various workstations?
   ( # of bits per color )

*  Is the signal swing of the video AC or DC coupled?  What are the
   voltage levels of the swing?

I have tried to contact dealers and people at Sun but have received no
worthwhile help.  I would like to form contacts with people knowledgable
with the video end of the Suns.  Please Email me the answers and if you
are willing to talk with me over the telephone please include your
telephone number and occupation.

Thank you in advance,
Gary Flodin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: deraadt@newt.cuc.ab.ca (Theo de Raadt)
Subject: Re: Old Sun question - HELP!!!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Organization: little lizard city
	<1993Jan6.115253.19572@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:05:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.115253.19572@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> earle@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Greg Earle - Gainfully Unemployed) writes:
>   About the only thing your Sun-2/120 system shares in common with modern Suns
>   is (a) the screen resolution is still the same (1152x900), unbelievably; and
>   (b) they BOTH USE THE SAME GOD-D*MNED !*&$@%$&^% SERIAL PORTS, utilizing
>   Zilog Z8530 dual UART chips!

I have to reply to this!!!

Why the heck did Sun not put better serial chips in their new machines??
Isn't it obvious by now that the Zilog chips SUCK?
 <tdr.
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From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Sun's ZS chips (was Re: Old Sun question - HELP!!!!!)
Date: 10 Jan 93 23:27:35 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>If the TIOCSET* ioctls were finally obsoleted, and the baud
>rate could specified as an integer,

To do the latter, you have to do more than just the former, given that
the TCSET* "ioctl"s stuff the baud rate into a 4-bit field, in the
standard SV fashion....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: bmaggio@wort.dcs.bellcore.com (Bill Maggio)
Subject: Host ID 
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 17:24:08 GMT

does anyone know how to translate the host id info 
into the the Sun system hardware type (eg 670,490,etc)?

thanx,

bill maggio


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From: censjg@caledonias3.caledonia.hw.ac.uk (Simon Greaves)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Sun-3/60 CG4 with 5 connector color monitor?
Date: 7 Jan 93 11:12:20 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <1993Jan4.220049.28493@rtsg.mot.com>, gulik@rtsg.mot.com (Gregory Gulik) writes:
|> 
|> I have a Sun-3/60 with a CG4 color framebuffer.
|> 
|> I also have a monitor that has seperate connectors for
|> horizontal and vertical sync.
|> 
|> Is there any way to make them work together?
|> 
|> -greg
|> 
|> -- 
|> 
|> gulik@rtsg.mot.com  (Gregory Gulik)  [NeXT]

Well, me too!

The solution is to ignore one of the syncs, I can't remember which, but 
there's not an enormous choice :-).

I have a Sony Trinitron on my 3/60, I just use the R,G,B and the sync 
nearest to them. 

Hope this helps.

-- 
Simon
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Archive 2150eS tape drive
From: tim@trident.datasys.swri.edu (Timothy J. Barton)
Date: 7 Jan 93 23:30:42 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute

I have recently aqcuired an Archive 2150eS 1/4" tape drive and would
like to add it to my SPARC 2.  I wasn't lucky enough to acquire the
tape drive with manuals.  Will this tape work with a Sun 2 running
SunOS 4.1.3?

ASSuming the tape will work with the Sun, I set the SCSI on the tape to 4 and
added SCSI tape 1 back into my kernel (at SCSI 4) and gen'ed a new
kernel.  When the machine powers on, it hits the tape, but hangs during
the middle of booting after it finds esp0 at SBus ....  The next
device would be my disk.  The machine only has one disk drive and no
other SCSI devices that would be conficting.  I did a probe-scsi from the
monitor and it sees the disk and tape and identifies the tape with the
proper name.  The machine is still getting to the disk okay because it is
loading the kernel.

Any steps in the process that I forgot to do?  Any clues as to why the
machine won't boot with the tape?  The machine will boot without the tape
so the kernel is okay.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Senior Research Analyst                   (210) 522-3540
Southwest Research Institute (SwRI)       (210) 522-5499  (Fax)   
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: SPARC clones
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:28:10 GMT


>Trinitron 1280x1024 monitor, GX graphics accelerator, keyboard and mouse.  It

>With everything up and running, I tested out the resolution - supposed to be
>1280 x 1024 right?

Well, you *did* say GX, not GXplus.
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From: pavlov@niktow.canisius.edu (Greg Pavlov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Is it Sunset yet?!?!
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:58:28 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sgi,comp.sys.sun.misc
Organization: Canisius College, Buffalo NY. 14208

In article <1993Jan8.081350.3453@ica.philips.nl>, adrie@ica.philips.nl (Adrie Koolen) writes:
> In article <1943@niktow.canisius.edu> pavlov@niktow.canisius.edu (Greg Pavlov) writes:
> >                      SGI Indigo R4000     SUN 4/75 SPARC 2
> >
> > *"Random" disk test         1219KB/sec            328KB/sec
> >   (*8192-byte blocks)
> 
> I'll examine the result of the random disk test on the Indigo.
> Using 8KB blocks, transfering one block at 4MB/s takes some 2ms.
> The Indigo reads 1219/8 = 152 blocks per second, i.e. 6.6ms per
> block. This means that the mean access time of the disk used by
> the Indigo is some 4.6ms, where I assume zero software overhead
> of the operating system.
> 
> Comments, anybody?
> 
  I always assume, when looking at any stated disk access results, that
  at least some of the data is pulled from RAM buffers (system and/or
  controller) rather than the disk itself.  This doesn't make the test
  meaningless - to me, at least - since a) I expect to see the same phenomenon
  when running our applications and b), different vendors have, over a period
  of time, shown a wide range of capability in making use of RAM for this
  purpose.  For instance, SUN appeared to have implemented dynamic disk 
  buffer allocation earlier than HP (it has just done so in its latest 
  HP-UX release) and DEC's ULTRIX systems require you to specify a fixed 
  memory allocation for buffers in the config file.




  greg pavlov
  pavlov@fstrf.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.graphics,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: dolfing@prl.philips.nl (dolfing h)
Subject: Is there a LCD graphics board for Sun Sparc/IPC ?
Keywords: LCD, graphics, S-Bus
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:50:24 GMT


Hello Netters,

I'am looking for a videocard for a Sparc/IPC which should enable me to
connect a LCD to my machine in order to use it as second X-Windows display.
The LCDs can be both passive or active matrix, color or B/W.

Although I know that there are some workstations (e.g. SparcBook) which have
a LCD screen, I don't know what kind of display board has been used.

Therefore, I hope that somebody can answer the following questions.

1) Is there ANY videocard at all for SUN Sparc/IPC which enables me to
   use a LCD as second X-display?

2) If yes, is that card for passive or active LCDs, color or B/W ?

3) Which company makes these video cards?

4) What video card/ controller is used in the SPARCbooks?


Best regards,

	Hans Dolfing




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