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From: learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Dave Learn)
Newsgroups: alt.ensign.wesley.die.die.die,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Ideas on how to cure the "Wesley Problem"
Date: 26 Jul 92 08:13:03 GMT
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Organization: Lehigh University

Ways to Cure the Wesley Problem

1.  While visiting a starbase on the planet of the Guardian of Forever,
    the crew of the Big E is horrified to find the rest of the universe
    change around them.  Due to his Star Fleet training and knowledge of
    history, Wesley is chosen for the special mission of going back in
    time as a Redshirt who beams down to a planet with Captain Kirk, 
    and taking a bullet meant for him.

2.  The Borg make Wesley their new speaker, and Captain Picard is forced
    to conclude that rescuing him from the Borg cube would unnecessarily
    endanger the Enterprise crew.  He is given a hero's funeral when the
    Borg ship goes to sleep again.

3.  In engineering, the photon torps are stuck and Wesley is forced to
    activate them manually--from inside the tubes.  The Enterprise is
    saved, and Picard remarks on the needs of the many "outweighing the
    needs of the few."

4.  Another of Wesley's science experiments develops into a lifeform on
    an episode called "Frankenstein."  In a chilling scene, his science
    projects says, "You are my creator, but I am your master--obey!"
    After his science project kills his girlfriend, Wesley chases it all
    the way to Pluto where they both crashland and freeze to death.

5.  As part of a fraternity prank at Star Fleet Academy, someone sticks
    a phaser--set on overload--under Wesley's pillow one night.

6.  Wesley is transferred to Deep Space Nine and is killed when thousands
    of rioting Star Trek fans rampage through the set in the final episode.


Dave Learn, Knight of the Wolves         "What an extraordinary thing to
dl20@lafayacs.bitnet                      do--and you only a stutterer."
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From: ludwigj@CS.ColoState.EDU (Vilkata (Joe Ludwig))
Newsgroups: alt.ensign.wesley.die.die.die,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Ideas on how to cure the "Wesley Problem"
Date: 27 Jul 92 01:50:14 GMT
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learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Dave Learn) writes:
>    After his science project kills his girlfriend, Wesley chases it all
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^

It'll never happen.

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From: charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV)
Subject: Re: Ideas on how to cure the "Wesley Problem"
Organization: Clemson University
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:42:05 GMT

ludwigj@CS.ColoState.EDU (Vilkata (Joe Ludwig)) writes:

>learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Dave Learn) writes:
>>    After his science project kills his girlfriend, Wesley chases it all
>                                         ^^^^^^^^^^

>It'll never happen.

I want to see Wesley get *dumped*.  That might give him some actual 
depth...
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From: learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Dave Learn)
Newsgroups: alt.ensign.wesley.die.die.die,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Ideas on how to cure the "Wesley Problem"
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:24:39 GMT
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Organization: Lehigh University

In article <Jul27.015014.33732@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, Joe Ludwig writes:
> learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Dave Learn) writes:
> >    After his science project kills his girlfriend, Wesley chases it all
>                                          ^^^^^^^^^^
> It'll never happen.

It already did.  See "The Game," in which the Enterprise is taken over by a
video game from Hell and some young blonde ensign falls in love with Wesley.


Dave Learn, Knight of the Wolves         "What an extraordinary thing to
dl20@lafayacs.bitnet                      do--and you only a stutterer."
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From: karim@facl.lan.mcgill.ca (Karim Noormohamed)
Subject: Test
Summary: Am I posting right?
Keywords: Test, junk
Organization: FACL, McGill University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:05:16 GMT

Just a small test to see if I have posted this article correctly.
Please ignore, and apologies if this is the wrong group for doing this sort 
of thing.
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From: rcape@scott.skidmore.edu (robert cape)
Subject: Re: That Owl
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:35:15 GMT


The word for owl _IS_ glauks, -kos, fem.  The adjective for grey is
glaukos, e^, on.  The root is the same.  Originally glaukos meant
"gleaming" or "shining"--giving the glauks its name, for its eyes--,
but later acquired the meaning of grey, or  greenish/bluish grey.

A GREEK-ENGLISH LEXICON, by H.G. Liddell and R. Scott, et al., will
give you all the details you need to know, including citations for you
to track down specific meanings.

Valete!

Bob Cape
e-mail: rcape@skidmore.edu
snail: Classics Program, Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs, NY 12866
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From: ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams)
Subject: Re: Help with Fates
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:06:35 GMT

In <l6v3csINN4bg@news.bbn.com> ingria@bbn.com (Bob Ingria) writes:

>In article <1992Jul23.210101.8375@midway.uchicago.edu> rivk@quads.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis) writes:

>   Can someone please tell me what the names of the three Fates
>   were, and which one did which job? Thanks very much.

>Clotho - spins the thread of a person's life
>Lachesis - measures it out
>Atropos - wields the shears and cuts the thread

	There are also the fates in Scandinavian mythology who are called
the Nornir, also three spinners.
There are traces existing of three similar fates in Anglo-Saxon mythology
which unfortunately were mostly erased with the Christianisation of Britain.
Their names became synonyms for God. Wyrd was one such, which means fate or
destiny, the other was Metod, the measurer and the third was Scyppende, the
shaper.
I can't remember the exact names of the Nornir at the moment but I'll 
check them out for you.
 
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From: snow@netcom.com (Tim Szeliga)
Subject: Re: Intro to Norse Mythology book?
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 12:46:45 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

>>Can anyone recommend a good intro book on Norse Mythology?          
>>(Something like Edith Hamilton's book on Greek/Roman 
>>mythology.) Thanks
>>
The Children of Odin  by Padraic Colum.

Written in the twenties.  Colum was a drinking buddy of Joyce.
Still in print, available in paper from MacMillan.
Contains most of the familiar Norse God stories, as well as the 
tales of Odin the Wanderer, Niebelungenlied and Ragnarok, 
the Twilight of the Gods.

Colum also adapted The Golden Fleece and the Mabingonian
From: snow@netcom.com (Tim Szeliga)
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
Subject: Re: Greek and Roman Mythology (A question about Apollo)
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:45:29 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

>
>And why is that the Romans borrowed their myths from the Greeks
>and did not invent their own?
>
The analogy has been often made between the Romans and the Americans.
Both were militaristic, technologically advanced, practical and 
culturally shallow.
Rome looked to Greece for culture much as America looks to Europe.
Thus we have a Father Christmas character, but we call him Santa Claus.
We have a pookah or Rowan Hare, but we call it The Easter Bunny.

Our orchestras play the music of dead europeans, except for Rhapsody in Blue,
written by a first generation immigrant, filtering the native music through
a European sensibility.
From: kumagic@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Stephen R. Figgins)
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
Subject: Re: Who was Chu-Chu-Lain?
Date: 21 Jul 92 11:52:05 CDT
Distribution: alt
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <2A6B1C03.66DC@deneva.sdd.trw.com>, shrdlu@willow.sdd.trw.com (Lynda L. True) writes:
> In article <LINDA.92Jul20150408@honi.uni-paderborn.de> linda@uni-paderborn.de (Linda Floren) writes:
>>Who was Chu-Chu-Lain? (Spelling is only a wild guess!)
>>He must have been an Irish hero in the times of Finn McCool. 
> 
> Read "The Red Brand" by Morgan Llewellyn for an excellent rendition of
> the Cuchullain (pronounced APPROXIMATELY Coo-hu-len) legend...

I believe that is "The Red Branch."  

> 
> Or you can go directly to the Mabingingon (sp?) for an older telling
> of it (and it was Llewellyn's source anyway).

You won't find it in the Mabinogian.  Although you will find some
wonderful Welsh legends.   For the story of Cuchulain you will have to
find "The Tain"  The Great Cattle Raid of Cooley.

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From: millerl@jeremiah.wharton.upenn.edu (Loren J. Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
Subject: Re: The creation of Eve
Date: 25 Jul 92 15:35:43 GMT
Organization: wcit

In article <1992Jul24.183846.15647@nmsu.edu> sindiogi@dewey.NMSU.Edu (INDIOGINE) writes:
>Question: the creation of Eve in Genesis chapter 2 (?) involves one of
>Adam's ribs. I read somewhere (? I do not remember where) that the story 
>Question: does anyone know about residuals of the ancestral cult of the 
>Mother Goddess in the Bible?

I don't know the answers to these questions.

>Question: in the book of Genesis Jacob erects a pillar stome and pours
>oil over it. Would this be a Menhir? Is it correlated with the phallic
>cult like the Lingam in India? Why would Jacob pour oil on it?

The common procedure for sacrifice is to pour scented oils and spices
over whatever is being consecrated. Jacob was consecrating the pillar
stone as the basis of a cairn of witness, a sacred object or emissary
of the divine to witness an oath or agreement. By performing the
sacrifice of oil on the stone, he summoned a witnessing power into the
cairn which was able to give force to his agreement with his father in
law Laban. I don't think it has much to do with phallic cults, mostly
because they covered up or surrounded the pillar with other stones to
form a cairn.





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they're brought in they're all really over the top.
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From: philiph@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Fairy readings
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:12:28 GMT

Two of the most recent and important books on modern fairylore and 
fairy study are Barbara Rieti's _Strange Terrain: Fairylore in 
Newfoundland_  (St. John's:  Institute for Social & Economic Research, 
Memorial University of Newfoundland, 1991), and Peter Narva'ez, ed., 
_The Good People: New Fairylore Essays_  (Garland, 1991).  The 
Narva'ez book is ISBN 0-8240-7100-X.  I'm afraid I don't have the 
Rieti book at hand to check its number.

		-Philip Hiscock, MUN Folklore & Language Archive

philiph@kean.ucs.mun.ca
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From:  ()
Subject: test
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:04:05 GMT

This is a test to see if this actually works.
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From: solon@beach.csulb.edu (Todd Allaria)
Subject: Re: How was Man created? (according to Greek Mythology)
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:21:31 GMT

I think you can get a clue to your question by the fact that the Epimetheus
literaly means after-thought. He did things without thinking them thru.

Todd

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From: wombat@engin.umich.edu (Eric Palmer Mcalpine)
Subject: Re: Who was Chu-Chu-Lain?
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 02:09:14 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: alt

In article <1992Jul21.173638@sees.bangor.ac.uk> graham@sees.bangor.ac.uk (The Land of Confusion) writes:
>
>In article <2A6B1C03.66DC@deneva.sdd.trw.com>, shrdlu@willow.sdd.trw.com (Lynda L. True) writes:
>> In article <LINDA.92Jul20150408@honi.uni-paderborn.de> linda@uni-paderborn.de (Linda Floren) writes:
>> >Who was Chu-Chu-Lain? (Spelling is only a wild guess!)
>> >He must have been an Irish hero in the times of Finn McCool. 
>> 
>> Read "The Red Brand" by Morgan Llewellyn for an excellent rendition of
>> the Cuchullain (pronounced APPROXIMATELY Coo-hu-len) legend...
>> 
>> Or you can go directly to the Mabingingon (sp?) for an older telling
>                                ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>                                Mabinogion
>
>
>> of it (and it was Llewellyn's source anyway).
>> -- 
>> Of course I don't SPEAK for TRW; they pay me to THINK for them.

Another interesting retelling of the story is in L. Sprague de Camp's
Compleat Enchanter series, which everyone seems to be familiar with.
It is one of the later stories so it is not of the same quality of 
the Norse mythology or Faerie Queen episodes, but it was still 
amusing.  I don't remember the name of the Cuchullain story, I read
them all bound in "The Complete Compleat Enchanter."

Eric McAlpine
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Subject: Constellations
From: nvaught@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:42:01 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

Subj: Constellations
     I hope this is the right place to post this.  I am in search of the author
and the name of the poem that names, describes the current constellations.  I
am under the impression that this was a Latin poet.  Also is it in English
translation.  Please send e-mail, not is this section too often.  Thanks.
Astronomy fan.  Nancy.
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From: lim@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Julie Lim)
Subject: Re: That Owl
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:49:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.173515.6363@scott.skidmore.edu> rcape@scott.skidmore.edu (robert cape) writes:
>
>The word for owl _IS_ glauks, -kos, fem.  The adjective for grey is
>glaukos, e^, on.  The root is the same.  Originally glaukos meant
>"gleaming" or "shining"--giving the glauks its name, for its eyes--,
>but later acquired the meaning of grey, or  greenish/bluish grey.


	I cower abjectly. But at least we got a definite answer.


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From: rivk@quads.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis)
Subject: Re: If you liked "Mists of Avalon", you'd LOVE...
Reply-To: rivk@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:28:37 GMT

In article <1992Jul11.211142.8298@athena.mit.edu> jsolof@athena.mit.edu (Jeffrey R. Solof) writes:
>
>You'd love WHAT?  I'm looking for something good to read next!

Try "Firelord" -- Parke Godwin. It solves beautifully my only major
problem with "Mists of Avalon" which is that Guenevere is a twit.

>Jeff Solof

	-Nora
From: garyh@sdsc.edu (Gary Hanyzewski)
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
Subject: Re: Greek and Roman Mythology (A question about
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:02:36 GMT
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Organization: San Diego Supercomputer Center @ UCSD
NNTP-Posting-Host: bashful.sdsc.edu

In article 33171@watson.ibm.com, yozzo@watson.ibm.com () writes:
>> :From what I've read of Greek and Roman mythology, it appears to me
>> :that the Roman Mythology is borrowed (other words could be used)
>> :from the Greeks.  The Romans then renamed all the gods.

. stuff deleted ..

>> 
>> :                                             And likewise for the
>> :following pairs:  Hera-Juno, Artemis-Diana, Hermes-Mercury, Cronus-Saturn,
>> :Hades-Pluto, Aphrodite-Venus, Poseidon-Neptune, Hephaestus-Vulcan,
>> :Ares-Mercury, Athena-Minerva, Demeter-?.  Hestia-?, ?-Uranus, ...
>> :from the Greeks.  The Romans then renamed all the gods.

	Demeter-Ceres,  Hestia-Vesta 


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From: ingria@bbn.com (Bob Ingria)
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
Subject: Re: That Owl
Date: 21 Jul 1992 20:47:17 GMT
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In-reply-to: cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk's message of 11 Jul 92 10:40:58 GMT

In article <3384@keele.keele.ac.uk> cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear) writes:
   From article <Br6Dx6.80M@watdragon.waterloo.edu>, by cpshelle@jeeves.waterloo.edu (cameron shelley):

   > Hm.  "bubo" is a greek word meaning "groin" or "swelling of the
   > groin", thus the term "bubonic plague". 

   "Bubo" is *Latin* for "owl" so perhaps this was Minerva's version. I
   have a feeling that the Greek (or at least one Greek word) for owl is "buas,
   but wouldn't want to swear to it.

I don't know about buas, but the standard name for owl in classical
Greek, especially the owl of Athens, is glauks (whence glaukoma).  In
Homer, Athena is referred to as ``owl-eyed'' (glaukopis).

-30-
Bob
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From: monaghan@carson.u.washington.edu (Tracy Monaghan)
Subject: Re: Greek and Roman Mythology (A question about Apollo)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:22:30 GMT

In article <4788@calmasd.Prime.COM> gdh@calmasd.Prime.COM (Gerald Hall) writes:
>
>I think there are a couple of important things to note here.  First, the
>Romans inherited/conquered a world in which Greek language and culture
>were almost universal.  Not only were there Greek cities scattered
>throughout the Mediterranean but the educated elite/royalty in essentially
>every country was either Greek or Greek educated.  To function in this
>world the Romans had learn Greek, and learning Greek involved reading the
>literature which meant learning the myths.

Very good point.

>
>The other point is that the Romans were great assimilators.  They were
>extremely tolerant of other cultures and they were very quick to
>adopt religions and traditions from throughout their world.

excellent point.

>
>In fact I think that Christianity is best understood as an eclectic
>Roman "grand unification" of the major religious traditions of their
>world.  From the Persian Mythra they adopted the birth at the winter
   [section deleted]
>many traditions (Isis, for example).  I think the ritual sabatical
>year sacrifice of the king on a tree, piercing his side so his blood
>could continue the fertility of the soil, also came from the Jews,
>but from a Judaism that few would recognize today.

Don't forget the greeks also had many instances of the spilling of a god's
blood leading to eventual (re)birth, eg Uranus, Cronus, Adonis, Hyacinthus.


Tracy

"Since you cannot be my wife...
you shall be my tree"
        --  Apollo                               
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:48:08 -0400 
From: "David M. Pahnos" <dp0q+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Help with Fates
	<ewillims.712235195@unix1.tcd.ie>

in short, and dependent on which dictionary you consult for spelling,
the three norse fates are Urd, Verandi, and Skuld.


michael j pastor iii
guest on davids account
From: cp11+@andrew.cmu.edu (Charles Lamonte Palmer)
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
Subject: eek! a GREMLIN
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:15:35 GMT
Organization: Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hey

Are there any mythology occurences or references to
the gnomelike creatures known as 'Gremlins'?

I'm looking for such a creature to help me with the 
construction of a short-story.

Charles
From: pme@otter.hpl.hp.com (Pete Earlam)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:29:08 GMT
Subject: Birds of Rhiannon ?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: alt.mythology

Hi
Can anyone tell me anything about the "Birds of Rhiannon". There seem to be
several passing references in the Mabinogion but scarce little else.

        Thanks  
                      Pete
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From: cpshelle@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (cameron shelley)
Subject: Re: Faerie request
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:20:34 GMT

You could also try:

----8<-------------------------------------------------------------
author:    McNeill, F. M.
title:     The Silver Bough

publisher: Cannongate Publishing (1956) 1989
isbn:      0-862-41231-5
call_no:
keys:      folklore celtic
comments:  An interesting (and old-fashioned) survey of scottish
           magic and folklore.
----8<-------------------------------------------------------------

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