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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:52:47 BSC
From:         bart <91243033@BRUFSC.BITNET>
Subject:      Radio program at Brasil

Hello folks,

    I do a radio show at university's radio. I have interest in to play
musics from you, your group, groups of your friends, anyone that
wants airplay, in any form of music.
    Please note that I don't take part in allmusic, so, reply to my
address: 91243033@brufsc.bitnet

    The radio is property of the university and it has a good audience
at city (which has about 300000 habitants), and my interest is to divulgate
unknown/new/independent material.

Thanks

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From:         "The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny"
              <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: crazy thought
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>This is just a crazy thought that i had to throw out. I wonder what the
>possibilities of us netters getting together and picking a record that
>is/was nor overly popular and telling all our friends (and ourselves)
>to purchase this record and with the wide scope of the net i wonder
>how far up the charts we could push this record. I'd be great to really
>pick a dog and propel to the top. What are your thoughts ? crazy huh

It's not so crazy. It happens every day. The only difference is that
it's the corporate scum telling us what to purchase through eMpTyV and the
Top-40 radio stations. Just look at all the crap on the Billboard charts.

-Adam
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:45:03 EDT
From:         Walter Keller <WK7@CORNELLC.BITNET>
Subject:      rap

        "well I'm a funky white webbo and I'm here to say
         if you don't dig the blues then get out of my way,
         don't need canned music, or a heavy DJ
         'cause I love the blues here's what I say.....

           BLOW MY RAP, BOOM BOOM !
           BLOW MY RAP, BOOM BOOM !
           BLOW MY RAP, BOOM BOOM !
           Blow my rap, and now here's princess Vi to introduce the band..."

Excerpt from an open mike, or amateur night we had this winter in Ithaca,
where I decided to break the ice and, besides taking a stand on rap, loosen
up my own blues band members.

It got quite a few laughs, especially as I totally messed up the intro part,
about the untimely demise of a fictional bluesman, Pine Leg Rubinoff.

Flame on Rapmeisters! I've got my rocket 88's trained on you.....

                                                               ... walt ...
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:58:48 PDT
From:         Michael <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
              27 Jul 1992 12:45:28 EDT from <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

In defense of the "trash" that Peter Gabriel puts out on the radio, I have
to say that as a lyricist, he is incredibly articulate and eloquent,
his ideas for conceptual and passionate music are unsurpassed,
and the musicianship employed on his albums are top notch.
Many will disagree with me, but I think Peter is an artist in the
true sense of the word.  He does what he wants to do.
Yes, they play his stuff on the radio.
"Sledgehammer", "Big Time", and "Shock the Monkey" are staples of the
airwaves.  But realise that the stuff they don't play on the radio
is what we're referring to when we talk about his music.
"Passion" is a phenomenal album of sounds and textures.
"III"(melting face) is an album full of great songs.
"I"(blue car) has the infamous "Solsbury Hill" tune.
"So" has "Red Rain", "Don't Give Up", "Mercy St", and "In Your Eyes"
  as powerful and passionate songs.
I need not mention that "Lamb Lies Down" by early Genesis
  is one of the most articulate
  statements in the music world, as far as concept albums go.

Of course, if you don't like songs of emotional content, and songs that
make you dance around, and songs that make you think about things other
than boy-meats-girl, then Pete will probably not turn you on.

It's art music crossing over to pop.
It's a parody of pop music that is well made.
It's world music/pop fusion.
It's Peter Gabriel doing what he wants to do.

I happen to like that kind of stuff.

 3
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From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      songs about turkeys

>From:         AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU

>All this stuff about Dylan.  Speaking of stuff, is there songs about turkeys?

How about songs *with* turkeys?  On his Folkways album _Playing Music With
Animals_, Jim Nollman includes two songs performed with turkeys.  (He more
often plays with wolves and orca whales.  Unlike say Judy Collins, Nollman
does not play along with a tape of whale songs, he actually plays together
with the whales.  He has an elaborate system that pumps his guitar underwater
for the whales to hear.  He responds to their music, they respond to his.
He reports that if he gets too out, the whales refuse to go along.)

One piece is Nollman standing in the middle of a bunch of turkeys singing
"Froggie Went A-Courtin'" with the turkeys joining in at certain spots.
You can tell the turkeys are responding to a particular pitch because
Nollman isn't a good enough singer to hit the right note each time
through a verse, and if he doesn't hit it, the turkeys don't come in.
Another piece is an excerpt from a radio show he did one Thanksgiving.
He and two other people wandered through a huge turkey farm playing
flutes.  A San Francisco radio station broadcast the results all afternoon.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:12:26 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Julie Figueroa Re: Mary Wells
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              moore stevenson" at Jul 27, 92 10:30 am

>
> Thanks, Julie for speaking for many of us.  So many of our true musical
> greats have passed on without proper recognition of their
> contributions.  Maybe ALLMUSIC is a small way of recognizing many of
> these greats while they are still alive.
>
> Alva Moore Stevenson
> ecz5ams@mvs.oac.ucla.edu
>
OK, I'm up for another tribute to a great while he's still alive: Pop Staples.
He's a true source of soul, gospel, blues.  An absolutely fantastic (sorry, my
adjective vocabulary is very trite today--too many posts) CD is his "Peace to
the Neighborhood."
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:26:40 CET
From:         Sebastian Welton <SWELTON@ESOC.BITNET>
Subject:      Censorship strikes back

Yes, the heading says it all, whether or not it's a good song, Ice-T has
removed the song 'Cop Killer' from the Bodycount album after Time Warner
Brothers board members received death threats from police officers. BTW,
rapper Paris is having some problems with his new album sleeve which
depicts a man standing in the shadows pointing a gun at George Bush.

Seb
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From:         "The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny"
              <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Warning: contains blatant overgeneralizations.
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> Haggard is one of the greats, and he deserves to be remembered for more
> than one novelty tune that was written, at least in part, as a rather
> mild joke. My old country band used to cover "Okie From Muskogee" AND
> "Hippie From Olema".  Whether Haggard is a great American or not is
> immaterial to the value of his music. A better "answer tune" to "Okie",
> BTW, was Nick Gravenites' "I'll Fix Your Flat Tire, Merle".

Oops. You're right. Pure Prairie League weren't the originals.

-Adam
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:08:54 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Miles

I never realized that i would like the kinda of blue album because i'm
guitar oriented (narrow-minded), but after everyone talked about it i
had to get it and i was severely blown away and properly moved and
i never would've touched it if i hadn't read it here first. Thanks
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:34:57 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      lonnie brooks
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  The one time I saw Lonnie Brooks he was trashed.  Being sponsored by
Miller (he/they had a radio commercial at the time) was the probable
cause, though he said he had been drinking whiskey.  This was at the
*early* show.  I remember 2 things distincly:  He had a wireless guitar
setup so he could walk around the crowd, that wasn't working very well;
and he screwed up one song so badly he couldn't even finish it.  It
left the crowd hanging, and he got no applause at all for that song.
Nothing.  Shocked silence.  I've never seen that happen anywhere else,
even at amateur nights.  It was sobering for me, I hope it was for him too.

Russ
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:47:00 EST
From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject: Re: Country Music
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Bob sed:

>>Listen to a Country Music station for about a week or 3 days to see what you
>>think.

>Oh, dear, and I thought I could keep myself from breaking The ALLMUSIC
>Rule (tm): all genres have musical value.

>But I can't.  Call me weak.  I don't care.  Here it comes:
>All genres *EXCEPT*COWBOY*MUSIC* have musical value!!!

Imagine that...there IS someone who hates country music as much as me. I too
can listen to anything BUT country music. It is boring and depressing and ALL
that I have heard sounds the same.

Maybe it's all that Metallica we've been listening to, eh Bob?

Seeya,
Gary

"Never do a drug named after a part of your own ass"
-- Guy on MTV
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:06:35 EDT
From:         AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject:      re: Dylan
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I did not have help.  That is the way a person from the boon docks talks.
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:53:45 MET
From:         Stas Philippe <philstas@VUB.AC.BE>
Subject:      Zappa

I apologiee for the wrong message about the dead of Frank Zappa.
The whole message was based on a misunderstanding of a sentence they
used on National Radio after the "Bobby Brown" song of Zappa.

This will not happen again.

Johor

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"And if the devil is six, Then GOD is seven"
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              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." at Jul 28, 92 8:34 am

P.S. to last post after re-reading Marco's.  Now the problem is: how do I
listen to Peter Gabriel's 4th album (what is it, by the way) without buying it,
because I really am cautious about BUYING new CDs, when the idiotic radio (at
least in my neck of the woods) is so poor.... well, I probably haven't checked
every station all the time... but generally the mainstream stations play so
much junk that it wears you out.  Trying to expand your "musical horizons"
without going broke and without turning into a drooling idjit from listening to
the radio all day is a real problem!  I've often wished this net, in some
sci-fi fashion (William Gibson type of thing), could allow you to accompany
your posts with little musical clips...
From: rowhite@wrdis01.af.mil (Ronald D. White)
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Date: 20 Jul 92 13:23:00 GMT
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	I got Neil Young's 2 volume "Weld" over the weekend.  Talk about
grungey, noisey, feedback stuff!  It's great!  You gotta hear what he does
with Peter, Paul & Mary's "Blowin' in the Wind".

		Later,
			Ron

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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 10:38:51 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Watkins 'Rap'

i certainly wouldn't disagree violence happens at almost every event,
i'm by no means saying rap creates violence, but from "what i've heard"
it occurs much more at rap concerts, blame it on the media's coverage
or anything else, but i still believe it happens more frequently at
rap concerts. Whats interesting is at a event as large as Woodstock
there was no violence that was heard of. it had to of been the type of
drugs that were indulged in then as opposed to the type that is used now.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:08:14 EDT
From:         Rick <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Guy Klucevsek on NPR

I heard this morning that tonight (Wed.) composer/accordionist Guy Klucevsek
will be the guest on Terry Gross' Fresh Air program on NPR tonight. I saw him
perform in NYC a few years back -- he plays beautiful and scary music.
Give a listen if you can.
RIck
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:29:12 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
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              "AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU" at Jul 29, 92 1:59 pm

>
> I did not say that Country Music singers were perfect! I only said that they
> were not as bad of an influence as rock n' rollers & heavy metel.  There is a
> difference.
>
In your first post you said (something like): "there is talk that..."
rock'n'roll and heavy metal have this bad influence, but now YOU are saying
this like it's a fact: now just how do you KNOW this is so??????
        (believe half of what you see and none of what you hear)
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 10:42:24 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: crazy thought
              27 Jul 1992 11:36:10 EDT from <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

after thinking about it i believe we shouldn't  pick a dog , but a
SRV or Miles someone deserving and push it on the charts. Question
if this did happen would the radio stations play it since it is a
Top Forty tune ?
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 08:20:53 CDT
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      The Burgh on Wednesday night
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I'm going to be in Pittsburgh tomorrow night (Wednesday).  Anybody
know of anything going on there I should go to?  I especially like
grunge and industrial; punk's OK, too.

Bob
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 11:06:41 EDT
From:         Coleen Gallagher <coleeng@PILOT.NJIN.NET>
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Jon,
  I don't know what you did but I just signed off of two lists and this is
what I did: ex. mail to: listserv@auvm.bitnet; then in the body put
signoff ALLMUSIC
   If you did exactly that I don't know what to tell you to do you might
want to ask help-net.  Any questions feel free to ask
                 Hoped this helped
                      Coll
                         coleeng@pilot.njin.net
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From:         "OUT,
              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      A really serious censorship

Hi all,
        when I posted my remarks on censorship/labelling this morning I didn't
expect I would have so much fun (though a pretty delayed fun!). But (and I apo-
logise for the non-musical item) I would like to draw your attention to a point
which is FAR more important than a stupid sticker on a stupid jewel box.
        Sorry, I'll have to go with an example, otherwise I should explain a
lot of boring detail about our law system in Italy.
        These are the headlines of a law that our so-called democratic govern-
ment is trying to make the parliament approve. It was (thanks God) killed just
a while ago, but I feel it will raise from the dead again soon.

        Suppose that A kills B in the street. There are witnesses, but A
escapes. The police (and possibly a judge) start to inquire about the case.
Well: if you are a JOURNALIST, and you INTERVIEW a witness, and the witness
says something that is already written in the trial acts (I mean the docu-
ments that police and judges are working on), this should be an infringement
of a secret, and you should get arrested for some 3 years.
        To put it more simply, if you reveal something that should actually be
public domain through the media, the legal system may claim you are a sort of
spy and imprison you.
        We still have a bit of salt in our own heads, and the Parliament did
wipe this law from the government tables, but not with a large majority as we
all free-thinkers expected.
        This is censorship, guys. This is a crime. Not certainly a sticker on
a record. THAT doesn't put silence in anyone's mouth.

        Ciao, Marco

        PS: this happened in Italy just three days ago. Mediaevil is not that
            mediaeval as you may think... :)

OMC: As most of you know Virgin was absorbed by EMI. The former roster was of
     155 artists - now they're simply 85. The Virgin brand remains, but the
     heads of the label will be EMI from now on. And so, I am afraid that the
     most vivid example of an indie turned into a major is finally over. Let's
     not forget what Virgin has given us in the last 10-15 years. Enigma would
     have been a good second candidate, but they never made it.
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From:         "The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny"
              <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nothing important -- I just felt like chatting ...
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Chuck (babbling like a brook) says:
>   Call it reverse-snobbism if you will, but there's a place in my musical
>life for Hendrix, Allan Holdsworth, Coltrane, Quicksilver, James McMurtry,
>Last Exit, Muddy Waters, Sonny Rollins, Ornette Coleman, Leo Kottke, and John
>Zorn, to cite a few examples.  Each one of these folks has something to offer
>-- whether it's story-telling ability (either vocally or instrumentally),
>proficiency on their instrument, emotion in their playing, improvisational
>ability, bringing a "fresh voice", or simply a different cultural viewpoint.

Chuck (or anyone else): Have you heard McMurtry's new one yet? If so, what
	did you think of it? Does David Grissom play on this one?

>   I daresay if Wm. F. Buckley writes a spy novel in which the protagonist
>murders a cop, or foments a revolution, the same folks who are up in arms
>about Ice-T or Sister SoulJah wouldn't be saying that Buckley advocates
>cop-killing and revolution.  How about country music?  Are we prepared to
>say that a country musician advocates running moonshine, committing
>adultery, driving drunk, and getting into bar-fights, simply because they
>are used as thematic material?

Depends which contry musician you are talking about 8)

>   One last shot from the "labeling front":  I saw Jabberwocky on A&E last
>week.  They had a dandy "advisory" that went something like this:  Warning --
>this film contains explicit acts of gratuitous violence, debauchery,
>pillaging, sophomoric tasteless humor and a little sex.
>   Now that's the kind of advisory I like to see!  ;*)

So wouldn't most kids. That's what's so stupid about labeling. It acts as
encouragement instead of as a deterrent.

-Adam
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From:         "The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny"
              <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Country Music
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>>Here's some advice for you -- play bass in a cowboy music band for
>>three hours (I-V-I-V-I-V all night long!)
>>
>  Now, just a minute here! I played bass in a cowboy band, many years
>  ago, and *I* came up with a CREATIVE bass part. Now, pay attention...
>  it went I-II I-II I-II all night long!!!
>
> But the clubowner fired us because he said we were too "far out".
>
> So I gave up country music.
>
>David
>
>PS. BTW, for anyone who's not sure, :-)

Ok guys. For a creative country bass workout check out "Country Music: A Night
in Hell" by Stu Hamm on his _Radio Free Albemuth_ disc. Yep this is the same
record that has the bass solo version of "Moonlight Sonata."

-Adam
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From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject: Re: Country Music
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Who was it who said that, if you hold heavy metal and rap responsible for
violence, to be fair you have to hold C&W responsible for incest?

Bob (I don't play no damn cowboy music)
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