From: DENNIS_@NCSU.EDU (DGA)
Subject: Re: WELLLLL! IT'S DAY ONE. WHERE'RE THE LIES???
Organization: NCSU
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:32:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.174340.13136@ttinews.tti.com> kevin@drogges.tti.com (Kevin Carothers) writes:
>From: kevin@drogges.tti.com (Kevin Carothers)
>Subject: Re: WELLLLL! IT'S DAY ONE. WHERE'S THE PLAN???
>Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:43:40 GMT
>In article <1jkblvINNg2q@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ck347@cleveland.Freenet.Edu 
(Richard A. Mulac) writes:
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> What a whining little shit you are. 
> You obviously don't have the guts to be an American. 
> In the future, shut up and think before you post, or move to France, dammit.
>

> I have my own prediction; Collectively, it will be found that Reagan and 
> Bush will have broke more promises every day before breakfast than 
> Clinton  will EVER break in his  entire career. 

I am constantly hearing about all the campaign lies that Bush told the 
American people. 

I hear both conservatives and liberals alike referring to the "read my lips" 
debacle as a "great lie".  Dealing in reality, where conditions change, I 
find it hard to construe the infamous "budget deal" as a lie on Bush's 
part.  

I consider it to have been an error, and a serious one at that.  I also 
understand how the situation was manipulated by congress to force Bush into 
an untenable situation.  It is my understanding that the choices were cut a 
deal, or let government payments cease.  Individual legislators would have 
more insulated from the wrath of their constituants that the Executive.  
Bush would have been viewed as the guy that let the SS, Medicare and Etc. 
checks to Granny stop.  The results to individual citizens of a "cold-
turkey" wiening from Gov't. money would have been tramatic and in many 
cases genuinely harmful.

I am not saying that Bush made the right decision.  I am saying that he did 
not make the "read my lips" statement with the intention, at the time, of 
not following through.  It is not evident to me that he had the 
careless disregard for the truth that I have seen throughout Clinton's 
campaign and now in the first few days of his administration.

After saying the above about the "Budget Deal", I ask the question: What 
constitues this great mass of lies told by George Bush during his 
administration.  Not, allegations, but provable and intentional 
misstatements of thruth.  Perhaps, anyone wishing to illuminate me could 
conduct a study with an unlimited budget, staff and time limit to research 
the question.  Maybe the government would even be willing to pay for the 
work. 

If you can't back up your claims, please.... Just sit back and enjoy your 
MTV.  If you can, I am a conservative, my mind can be changed by clear 
reasoning and facts.  Please inform me, without gutter language if 
possible.  

Remember, nobody likes a sore winner!

DGA






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> right now you're accuracy is at 50%. Just the same as any other moron on the
> street. 
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>Kevin Carothers   {psivax,philabs,retix,quad1}!ttidca!kevin
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