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From: thomas@aic.co.jp (Thomas Johannsen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Violence update 1.10.92
Date: 2 Oct 92 10:16:38 GMT
Organization: AIC Systems Lab., Sendai, Japan
In-reply-to: weberwu@inf.fu-berlin.de's message of 1 Oct 92 12:20:17 GMT

In article <L6I7QFS@math.fu-berlin.de> weberwu@inf.fu-berlin.de (Debora Weber-Wulff) writes:

 > Berlin: A young musician from Brazil was attacked in the U-Bahn and
 > will lose three fingers as a result. A dozen youth were in the well-filled
 > car at around 10pm as it went through the western city center in the
 > direction of Ruhleben. One of the youth came up to the Brazilian and
 > kicked him. The Brazilian said (in English) "Please, I do not want
 > trouble". Not one of the passengers said a word, the Brazilian attempted
 > to get out at Wittenbergplatz. The gang grabbed his bicycle and threw it
 > out of the car, they held the Brazilian, put one of his hands in the
 > doorway and slammed the door on it three times. Hard. They opened the
 > door again, threw him onto the floor, kicked his face, and continued on
 > their journey with the subway. The musician had unfortunately pulled his
 > jackknife out in an attempt to protect himself, the knife opened as
 > the door was slammed on his hand, severing the tendons in three of the
 > fingers, that were only still attached to his hand by strips of skin.
 > He will lose the fingers. Not *one* of the many passangers has called the
 > authorities to even describe the youth that must have ridden on
 > in the car at least one station. The Brazilian has refused to file a
 > complaint for fear of retribution.   
 > -- 
 > Debora Weber-Wulff                       dww@inf.fu-berlin.de

Grauenvoll!! Ich habe mich schon ein paarmal gefragt, was man in einer
solchen  Situation  als "Zuschauer" machen   kann/soll. Polizei ist ja
meist  dann nicht da,  wenn man sie braucht :-(  Bleibt wahrscheinlich
wirklich nur,  sich die  Typen  moeglichst  genau einzupraegen   (oder
unaufaellig zu fotografieren) und dann  gleich  Anzeige zu erstatten. 
Denn ich  habe keine Lust, mich  auch gleich noch mit  "aufmischen" zu
lassen.

Bessere Vorschlaege, wie man Opfern helfen kann?

Thomas

PS: Offene   Gewalt auf  der  StrasSe  ist hier  in  Japan  so gut wie
unbekannt.  Es ist  (bis vielleicht auf  einige Bezirke in Tokyo) auch
kein Problem, nachts allein  unterwegs  zu  sein (auch  als Frau  oder
Auslaender).  Ganz  selten    wird man    mal   von einem   Besoffenen
angequatscht, aber dabei bleibt es auch.  Das  wollte ich nur  mal als
Kontrast zu Deboras Berichten setzen.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: siri@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Siri Flocke)
Subject: Re: Anschlaege in Hannover geklaert
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Atmospheric Chemistry
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:39:45 GMT

In article <psima01.718383823@convex> psima01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (M. Maisack) writes:
>der Erpresser, der in Hannover die Anschlaege veruebt hat, ist gefasst.


Aeh, was fuer Anschlaege?

Danke fuer jegliche Aufklaerung.


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From: lieser@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Ed Lieser)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Die Prinzen
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:16:41 EST
Organization: Test PLease ignore

I just returned from a 3-week trip to Germany and Austria, really
quite enjoyable.  I asked a year ago what a "Kerwe" was on this
group, and I spent a whole weekend at one this time.  Really a lot
of fun.

Anyway, I bought a tape by Die Prinzen - "Das Leben ist grausam" and
enjoy it quite a bit.  I've ordered the CD and I wonder if the lyrics
are included in the CD version (they aren't in the tape.)  For the most
part, they are very clear indeed, but a few words I can't quite make
out, or perhaps they're slang.  (In the song "Die Voegel", for example,
they use the word "bescheuert".  This is not in any English-German
dictionary I can find, but fortunately I have Duden #1, so I know that
the word basically means "stupid".)  In the song "Blaues Blut" there's
a part which says:

Auf dem Schreibtisch ist es dann passiert
Da haben wir uns von oben bis unten <???>
                                      ^--what is this word???

If anyone is interested, the music reminds me of the Beach Boys a little,
and the lyrics are often quite funny.

I'll just add that the driving here in the USA is difficult to readjust
to, and I miss the sidewalk cafes and the excellent beer, coffee, and ice
cream.  I should also mention that my German is not fantastic, but adequate,
and I spoke only German while I was there - sorry this post is in English,
but I'm tired.  :-)

Ed Lieser	Allen-Bradley Co., Cleveland, Ohio
From: thomas@aic.co.jp (Thomas Johannsen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: verschiedenes
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:50:20 GMT
Organization: AIC Systems Lab., Sendai, Japan
In-reply-to: psima01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de's message of 28 Sep 92 09:14:46 GMT

In article <psima01.717671686@convex> psima01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (M. Maisack) writes:

 > Ende letzter Woche wurde der Rhein-Main-Donau-Kanal eroeffnet,
 > von bayerischen Politikern als Jahrhundertbauwerk, von Naturschuetzern
 > alsoekologische Katastrophe bewertet.

Welche Argumente fuehren die Gruenen denn auf? Veraenderung des
Grundwasserspiegels? Ich dachte immer, Binnenschiffahrt ist eine
wuenschenswerte Alternative zu LKW und Bahn...

 > "Wetten Dass" hat einen neuen Moderator, von dem es nach seiner
 > ersten Sendung heisst, er koenne Gottschalk nicht/nie das
 > Wasser reichen. Vor ein paar Jahren hiess es genau dasselbe beim
 > Wechsel von Elstner zu Gottschalk, und in 5 Jahren....

Wie heisst der Neue denn? Kennt den jemand?

Just curious,

Thomas

Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: psima01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (M. Maisack)
Subject: Anschlaege in Hannover geklaert
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:03:43 GMT

der Erpresser, der in Hannover die Anschlaege veruebt hat, ist gefasst.
es ist ein 21jaehriger Student. Ein Bekannter erkannte seine Stimme auf
einem Band, das die Polizei per Telefon zugaenglich machte.
(aus swf3)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: lbs@tkmhp2.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de (Lech Borkowski)
Subject: Re: Germany to commemorate launch of first Nazi rocket despite protests
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:06:06 GMT

In article <0105013A.enngk8@aeglos.hanse.de> osg@aeglos.hanse.de (Oliver Giessler) writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep27.001959.27716@u.washington.edu> (soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.german), payman@hardy.u.washington.edu (Payman Arabshahi) writes:
>|In article <1992Sep26.210715.25351@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> 
>|mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi) writes:
>|
>|>	BERLIN (UPI) -- German aerospace interests said Saturday they were
>|>planning to celebrate the 50th anniversary of first rocket launch in
>|>Nazi Germany despite international criticism.
>|                         ....
>|>	The Nazis launched 1,120 V-2s against Britain between September 1944
>|>and April 1945, killing 2,855 civilians.
>|                         ....
>|>	In Britain, Conservative member of Parliament Winston Churchill,
>|>grandson of the wartime prime minister, told the Mirror newspaper: ``I
>|>urge them to think again.
>|>	``The very idea that anyone could commemorate a wepaon system which
>|>terrorized and killed civilians I find incredible,'' he said.
>|
>|Wasn't it just a few weeks ago that the British unveiled a statue
>|commemorating Sir Arthur "Bomber" Harris; the man responsible for 
>|the fire bombing of Dresden and many other German cities during the
>|Second War; bombings which left Tens, if not hundreds of thousands
>|of innocent civilians dead?
>|
>
>Oh, come on. This is something completly differnt ... from the
>british point of view ;-(. 
>I was against a statue of Bomber Harries, and I am against the
>party in Penemuende. But you have to think about that they do
>not want to celebrate the start of the V-2. They want to celebrate
>the first start of an modern kind rocket. Wich represents the
>roots of the american and russian rocket programm (btw build up
>mainly by german scientist)
>

 Touchy point of national pride? :-)
How about celebrating the anniversary of Tsiolkovsky's
birth instead?

 The tribalism in Europe is apparently alive and well... :-) 

 Lech Borkowski
lbs@neptune.phys.ufl.edu
From: chuck@ztivax.UUCP (Charles Watland)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Violence update 1.10.92
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:06:45 GMT
Organization: Siemens AG, Munich, W-Germany

thomas@aic.co.jp (Thomas Johannsen) writes:
> In article <L6I7QFS@math.fu-berlin.de> weberwu@inf.fu-berlin.de (Debora Weber-Wulff) writes:
> 
>  > Berlin: A young musician from Brazil was attacked in the U-Bahn and
|>  > will lose three fingers as a result. A dozen youth were in the well-filled
|>  > car at around 10pm as it went through the western city center in the
|>  > direction of Ruhleben. One of the youth came up to the Brazilian and
|>  > kicked him. The Brazilian said (in English) "Please, I do not want
|>  > trouble". Not one of the passengers said a word, the Brazilian attempted
|>  > to get out at Wittenbergplatz. The gang grabbed his bicycle and threw it
|>  > out of the car, they held the Brazilian, put one of his hands in the
|>  > doorway and slammed the door on it three times. Hard. They opened the
|>  > door again, threw him onto the floor, kicked his face, and continued on
|>  > their journey with the subway. The musician had unfortunately pulled his
|>  > jackknife out in an attempt to protect himself, the knife opened as
|>  > the door was slammed on his hand, severing the tendons in three of the
|>  > fingers, that were only still attached to his hand by strips of skin.
|>  > He will lose the fingers. Not *one* of the many passangers has called the
|>  > authorities to even describe the youth that must have ridden on
|>  > in the car at least one station. The Brazilian has refused to file a
|>  > complaint for fear of retribution.   
|>  > -- 
|>  > Debora Weber-Wulff                       dww@inf.fu-berlin.de
|> 
|> Grauenvoll!! Ich habe mich schon ein paarmal gefragt, was man in einer
|> solchen  Situation  als "Zuschauer" machen   kann/soll. Polizei ist ja
|> meist  dann nicht da,  wenn man sie braucht :-(  Bleibt wahrscheinlich
|> wirklich nur,  sich die  Typen  moeglichst  genau einzupraegen   (oder
|> unaufaellig zu fotografieren) und dann  gleich  Anzeige zu erstatten. 
|> Denn ich  habe keine Lust, mich  auch gleich noch mit  "aufmischen" zu
|> lassen.
|> 
|> Bessere Vorschlaege, wie man Opfern helfen kann?
|> 
|> Thomas
|> 
|> PS: Offene   Gewalt auf  der  StrasSe  ist hier  in  Japan  so gut wie
|^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> unbekannt. 
|^^^^^^^^^^^^
Meinen Sie, dass diese bedeutet, dass Japan kein Problem mit 
gewalt auf der Strasse hat oder Japan kein Probleme mit Auslaenderhass hat?
Oder beide?  Wissen Sie, wieviel Fluchtlinge Japan hat???? 

Chuck
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: bzbmaiba@ZIB-Berlin.DE (Maibauer, Wolfgang (ZIB))
Subject: Re: verschiedenes
Reply-To: bzbmaiba@ZIB-Berlin.DE
Organization: Konrad Zuse-Zentrum fuer Informationstechnik Berlin
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:40:00 GMT

In article 92Sep29115020@beat.aic.co.jp, thomas@aic.co.jp (Thomas Johannsen) writes:
>In article <psima01.717671686@convex> psima01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (M. Maisack) writes:
>
> > Ende letzter Woche wurde der Rhein-Main-Donau-Kanal eroeffnet,
> > von bayerischen Politikern als Jahrhundertbauwerk, von Naturschuetzern
> > alsoekologische Katastrophe bewertet.
>
>Welche Argumente fuehren die Gruenen denn auf? Veraenderung des
>Grundwasserspiegels? Ich dachte immer, Binnenschiffahrt ist eine
>wuenschenswerte Alternative zu LKW und Bahn...
>

Ein Teil des Kanals folgt doch, wenn ich mich recht erinnere, dem Bett
des Flusses Altmuehl. Folglich musste der Fluss begradigt werden, damit
er als Kanal was taugt. Das fuehrt natuerlich zum Verlust von Feucht-
gebieten, da infolge der Kanalisierung die Ueberflutung der Uferzone
nicht mehr stattfinden kann. Ausserdem sind natuerlich Bauarbeiten mit
den dazu notwendigen Erdbewegungen dieses Ausmasses immer mit erheb-
lichen Eingriffen in die Umwelt verbunden.
Binnenschiffahrt ist natuerlich eine wuenschenswerte Alternative, 
allerdings setzt dies einen Bedarf voraus. Wie ich den Nachrichten-
sendungen hierzu entnommen habe, koennen nur Schiffe bis zu einer
bestimmten Groesse und Tonnage auf dem Kanal fahren, ueblich sind 
aber moderne, groessere Schiffe. Ausserdem gibt es ein viel zu ge-
ringes Aufkommen an Massenguetern zwischen den Donau-Anliegerstaaten, 
deren Transport mittels der Binnenschiffahrt besonders guenstig waere.
Die nun als solche gefeierte Verbindung von Nordsee zum Schwarzen
Meer bringt also keine tatsaechlichen oekonomischen Vorteile. Die
Zeitersparnis gegenueber einer Seepassage via Aermelkanal und Mittel-
meer soll wohl auch nicht so ueberragend sein.
Daraus erklaert sich wohl auch der Ausspruch, der dem ehem. Bundes-
verkehrsminister Volker Hauff zugeschrieben wird, dass der Rhein-
-Main-Donau-Kanal das duemmste Bauwerk seit dem Turmbau zu Babel
sei.

> > "Wetten Dass" hat einen neuen Moderator, von dem es nach seiner
> > ersten Sendung heisst, er koenne Gottschalk nicht/nie das
> > Wasser reichen. Vor ein paar Jahren hiess es genau dasselbe beim
> > Wechsel von Elstner zu Gottschalk, und in 5 Jahren....
>
>Wie heisst der Neue denn? Kennt den jemand?
>

Ja, Wolfgang Lippert. Bereits in der ehem. DDR bekannter Showmaster,
auch bekannt als Moderator von Kindersendungen beim Fernsehen der
DDR. Wenn ich mich erinnere schon vor der Wende vereinzelte Gast-
spiele im Westfernsehen. Mittlerweile hat er schon mehrere Sendungen
im vereinten Deutschland moderiert. Welche, daran kann ich mich
nicht mehr erinnern. Mein Eindruck nicht so vorlaut wie Gottschalk,
nicht so langweilig wie Elstner.

>Just curious,
>
>Thomas
>
Gruss Wolfgang



Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: lbs@tkmhp4.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de (Lech Borkowski)
Subject: Re: Germany to commemorate launch of first Nazi rocket despite protests
Reply-To: lbs@tkm.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:42:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.120149.38814@news.th-darmstadt.de> schrod@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Joachim Schrod) writes:

>PS: Who is Tsiolkovsky?

 A pioneer rocket scientist. You will find more in an encyclopedia.
Could it be that you never heard of him? :-)

 LB
lbs@neptune.phys.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: kbg00@cas.org ([Ken Gilbert (x3432)])
Subject: Re: Violence update 30.09.92
Followup-To: soc.culture.german
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:28:29 GMT

In article <serb.18@polisci.umn.edu> serb@polisci.umn.edu (Scott Erb) writes:

>It is indeed commonplace to celebrate such things, but as my mom taught me
>long ago, two wrongs don't make a right....
>...  I do think rocket research can be celebrated, but a
>peaceful development focusing on exploration rather than destruction would
>be more appropriate.   Gruss, Scott


I found it ironic in light of this discussion that the US Postal Service
recently issued a stamp honoring Theodore von Karmann (founder of JPL
among other achievements).  It pictured him as well as a rocket---

you guessed it---a modified V-2.

					Ken
					(kbg00@cas.com)

VfL 1900 Borussia Moenchengladbach
2. Bundesliga Meister 1994
(the way things are going now... :( )
Deutscher Vizepokalsieger 1992
From: weberwu@inf.fu-berlin.de (Debora Weber-Wulff)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Violence update 1.10.92
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:20:17 GMT
Reply-To: dww@inf.fu-berlin.de
Organization: Free University of Berlin

Berlin: A member of the Bezirksverordnetenversammlung (a borough parliament
in Berlin) in Neukoelln has stepped down. The member of the Green Party,
who was born in Iran, received eight threatening calls to his unlisted
number after a verbal fight in the BVV. The right-wing party "Republikaner"
had requested a statistic about the percent of criminals who are foreigners,
and used this as a starting point for one of their typical tirades against
the foreigners in general. As tempers rose the member tried to calm down
both sides. After the threats, that included threats against his children
and the suggestion that he "go home" (he is now a German citizen!), he
made the personal decision to step down.

Altlandsberg (Brandenburg, north of Berlin): There was a fire bombing of
a house over a Turkish grocery store here about 10 days ago, it was
reported on the Brandenburg pages of the tagesspiegel. The owner of the
grocery shop, a Turk, suffered third degree burns and is still not
able to talk with police. The German persons living over the store managed
to get out before they were hurt. The police have no clues at to the
persons that committed the crime, the wife of the man hurt has said that
they do not appear to by trying very hard.

Berlin: A young musician from Brazil was attacked in the U-Bahn and
will lose three fingers as a result. A dozen youth were in the well-filled
car at around 10pm as it went through the western city center in the
direction of Ruhleben. One of the youth came up to the Brazilian and
kicked him. The Brazilian said (in English) "Please, I do not want
trouble". Not one of the passengers said a word, the Brazilian attempted
to get out at Wittenbergplatz. The gang grabbed his bicycle and threw it
out of the car, they held the Brazilian, put one of his hands in the
doorway and slammed the door on it three times. Hard. They opened the
door again, threw him onto the floor, kicked his face, and continued on
their journey with the subway. The musician had unfortunately pulled his
jackknife out in an attempt to protect himself, the knife opened as
the door was slammed on his hand, severing the tendons in three of the
fingers, that were only still attached to his hand by strips of skin.
He will lose the fingers. Not *one* of the many passangers has called the
authorities to even describe the youth that must have ridden on
in the car at least one station. The Brazilian has refused to file a
complaint for fear of retribution.   
-- 
Debora Weber-Wulff                       dww@inf.fu-berlin.de
Institut fuer Informatik                 +49 30 89691 124
Nestorstr. 8-9                           (INCLUDE "standard.disclaimer")
D-W-1000 Berlin 31                       (PRINTN (WITTY-MESSAGE TODAY))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: psima01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (M. Maisack)
Subject: verschiedenes
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:14:46 GMT


Ende letzter Woche wurde der Rhein-Main-Donau-Kanal eroeffnet,
von bayerischen Politikern als Jahrhundertbauwerk, von Naturschuetzern
alsoekologische Katastrophe bewertet.

In Pforzheim wurde die erste Moschee Deutschlands (so richtig mit
huebschem Minarett) eroeffnet.

In Berlin wurden 3 Leute verhaftet, die den Anschlag auf das juedische 
Mahnmal in Tiergarten veruebt hatten.

Hermann Neuberger, DFB-Chef, starb an Krebs.

"Wetten Dass" hat einen neuen Moderator, von dem es nach seiner
ersten Sendung heisst, er koenne Gottschalk nicht/nie das
Wasser reichen. Vor ein paar Jahren hiess es genau dasselbe beim
Wechsel von Elstner zu Gottschalk, und in 5 Jahren....

Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: MICHAEL.WILLETT@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Michael Willett")
Subject: Re: RAID 7 Systemen fuer Lans und Workstations Jetzt in Deutschland
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:57:26 EST

Guten Tag Meine Damen und Herren!

Fragen Sie bitte die Leute in Frankfurt ueber dies, nicht mich.  Ich habe
keine zusatzliche Auskunft bei mir.  Danke Schoen!

Regarding John Scoggin's request for information on RAID systems for
VINES, Storage Computer of Nashua, N.H. is currently showing its new high
performance RAID 7 disk array platforms at the September International VINES
User Meeting.  SCSI-based, they work equally well with NetWare, workstations,
IBM systems, VAXes, etc.  I found out that Storage Computer has just opened
up its new European headquarters in Frankfurt.  The telephone there is
(49) 6917-2145.  The FAX is (49) 6917-2149.  (Der Geschaeftsfuehrer is
Deutsche, wie die VBs.)

Standards-based, RAID 7 is designed for enterprise-wide computing and
overcomes performance limitations of earlier RAID architectures, providing
a  "real world sustained application performance improvement of 200% to
400%" and dropping the cost of storage to 16 cents/MB.  Their brochures
say they can "mix and match" up to 48 SCSI commodity (3.5 or 5.25 inch)
drives, up to 150 GB.  The RAID 7 disk array platforms come with an embedded
operating system and up to 12 SCSI-2 based host interfaces.  Besides servers,
Storage Computer's RAID 7 disk array platforms can connect to workstations
and midrange systems in addition to IBM's.  Multiple CPUs can be attached to
same disk array platform.

The RAID 7 platforms come with up to 256 MB of cache, eliminating any
reason for using performance-damaging CPU main memory disk RAM.

The drives are "hot plugable" for uninterrupted, transparent operation,
with a hot standby drive automatically replacing a failed drive.

There was a lot of activity this week at the Storage Computer RAID 7 booth
at the Boston Banyan show as I walked by.  They were demoing what happens if
a drive goes down, showing the backup drive taking over.

For further information on Storage Computer's RAID 7 for any system, their
key US contact is indicated to be John O'Brien, Director of Technical
Services at Tel. 603-880-3005 or FAX 603-889-7232.  (Aber die Leute hier
haben gesagt es wuerde besser fuer Europaeishe Firmen Frankfurt am erst
anzurufen.  Sie sind sehr beschaeftigt hier nur mit US Auftraege im
Augenblick.)

Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: psima01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (M. Maisack)
Subject: Re: Die Prinzen
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 08:17:31 GMT

In <1992Sep28.171641.8961@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> lieser@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Ed Lieser) writes:

>Auf dem Schreibtisch ist es dann passiert
>Da haben wir uns von oben bis unten <???>
>                                      ^--what is this word???

wild guess:   beschmiert

>Ed Lieser	Allen-Bradley Co., Cleveland, Ohio

Michael
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: dhey@mcs213b.cs.umr.edu (Dirk Heydtmann)
Subject: Re: Rundfunkintendanten
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:05:52 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla
Keywords: einer rein, einer raus

In article <psima01.717945880@convex> psima01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (M. Maisack) writes:
>die Zahl der erzkonservativen Rundfunkintendanten
>in Deutschland ist gleichgeblieben:
>
>Edmund Gruber wurde beim Deutschlandfunk rausgeworfen,
>beim Suedwestfunk wurde Peter Voss gewaehlt (frueher Moderator
>heute-journal).
>
>Michael
>
Wer ist denn beim SWF gegangen, und wer soll Grubers Nachfolger beim DLF
werden?

- Dirk