HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: buccb@after.math.uiuc.edu (Carlos Dragonslayer Butler)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Bars in Illinois
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:48:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <BtqFCn.FMy@news.cso.uiuc.edu> gt38091@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Greg )  
writes:
> altho' i'm 21, i can answer the question for you...i just got back from the 
> bars here at illinois, and the "entrance age" is 19...if you're 21 they'll 
> mark your hand with a marker to "let the bartenders/waitresses know" that
> you're legal...

	This is not universal in Illinois. In Chicago, if the
establishment serves alcohol, no one under 21 is legally allowed
to enter. That's not really true. Restaurants and such obviously
don't count, but clubs and bars do.

--
   		     Carlos Dragonslayer Butler
buccb@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu buccb@after.math.uiuc.edu buccb@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
        University of Illinois 	     (217) 373-4781 Pager
     "People often condescend what they fail to comprehend...
     ...ignorance makes life easier. Learn to tolerate. Peace."
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: ggraef@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Gerald Luther Graef)
Subject: fellowships vs. taxes
Organization: University Wisconsin - Milwaukee Physics Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 17:41:45 GMT

Has anyone heard what the status of the bill introduced to the U.S.
House of Representitives regarding returning fellowships/grants to
non-taxable status? (I think its HR 466 or somesuch.)

thanks...

Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: atul@nynexst.com (Atul Chhabra)
Subject: ranking of graduate programs in clinical psychology in the US
Reply-To: atul@nynexst.com
Organization: NYNEX Science & Technology, White Plains, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 00:30:25 GMT


Where can I get a ranking of the graduate programs in clinical
psychology in the US. The publication Gourman's Report lists
the top thirty universities in the US that offer graduate studies
in clinical psychology. I am looking for a more complete ranking.
Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Atul Chhabra
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atul@nynexst.com        (914)644-2786
From: binlee@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu (L. D. ROPER)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: job market about engineering and public policy
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:28:00 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


Hi,all your guys:

   I want ot know the job market of engineering and public policy.If someone 
get a Ph.D of department of engineering and public policy,which kind of job he
can get?

   Since I do not read the NEWS regularly,please send you reply to me by email.
Any information will be appreciated.

   Many thanks in advance!


B.Lee





Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: raboles@eos.ncsu.edu (RODNEY ALLEN BOLES)
Subject: UCSD CS
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:47:23 GMT

Can someone please provide me with any information about UCSD's
Grad School?

Is there a Master's of Computer Science? What is Cost per semester for
out of state? and any other info.

Or better yet, a phone number of the correct dept at UCSD to contact to have
info mailed to me. 

Thanks for any and all help,
Rodney Boles
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price)
Subject: Re: fellowships vs. taxes
Reply-To: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Particle Physics Research Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 08:09:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.064029.29425@physics.ucla.edu>, price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) writes:
>It's HR 4418, introduced by some guy in Florida (I think his name's Lewis). 
>I have the text at home, and will post it when I get it.

Here it is, reprinted without permission. (although, since there isn't a 
copyright notice on it, I'm probably safe...  :)  Typos are all mine:

102D CONGRESS
2D SESSION                H.R. 4418

     To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to restore the prior law
             exclusion for scholarships and fellowships.
				 
                -----------------------------------
					 
                   IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
					   
                         March 10, 1992
								
 Mr. LEWIS of Florida introduced the following bill; which was referred to the
                         Committee on Ways and Means
						 
                -----------------------------------

                                   A BILL
								   
            To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to restore 
            the prior law exclusion for scholarships and fellowships.
			
   1       Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa-
   2  tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
   3  SECTION 1. RESTORATION OF PRIOR LAW EXCLUSION FOR
   4              SCHOLARSHIPS AND FELLOWSHIPS.
   5       (a) IN GENERAL.--Section 123 of the Tax Reform 
   6  Act of 1986 (relating to scholarships), and the amend-
   7  ments made by such section, are hereby repealed; and the
   8  Internal Revenue Code of 1986 shall be applied and ad-
   9  ministered as if such section, and amendments, had never 
  10  been enacted.
  
  (page 2)
  
   1       (b) EFFECTIVE DATE.--Subsection(a) shall apply to 
   2  taxable years beginning after December 31, 1986.
   3  SEC. 2. WAIVER OF STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS.
   4       If refund or credit of any overpayment of tax result-
   5  ing from the application of section 1 is prevented at any 
   6  time before the close of the 1-year period beginning on 
   7  the date of the enactment of this Act by the operation 
   8  of any law or rule of law (including res judicata), refund 
   9  or credit of such overpayment (to the extent attributable 
  10  to the application of section 1) may, nevertheless, be made 
  11  or allowed if claim therefor is filed before the close of such 
  12  1-year period.

           John Price * * * * price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu
           Where there is no solution, there is no problem.
From: riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Re: fellowships vs. taxes
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:02:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Aug27.150213.28478
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

jmclaughlin@gems.vcu.edu writes:

>In article <1992Aug23.174145.24639@uwm.edu>, ggraef@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Gerald Luther Graef) writes:
>> Has anyone heard what the status of the bill introduced to the U.S.
>> House of Representitives regarding returning fellowships/grants to
>> non-taxable status? (I think its HR 466 or somesuch.)
>> 
>> thanks...
>> 
>I was told today by a friend at U of Penn that he had received notice in his 
>mailbox from fellow grad students that it had gone through.  Can anyone 
>confirm this???  (If it's true, I need to find out how to get my money back!)

>						Thanks!
>						  Judy

I heard that it had passed the House and was sent to the Senate a
month ago.  It passed in some Senate committee and was due
before the full Senate in early August, but I haven't heard whether
any action has been taken on it yet.
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From: aronson@helios.ece.arizona.edu (John Aronson)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Re: Info on CS grad programs ?
Date: 31 Aug 92 06:07:06 GMT
Distribution: na,local
Organization: U of Arizona Electrical and Computer Engineeering


	It just dawned on me that I'm graduating this December.  One of my
option is of course Grad school.  I am seeking anyone who has knowlegde of the
Electrical Engineering department at the University of Washington.  I'm 
considering studing digital systems and computer hardware.  If anyone out there
in netland has any information/opinions about this program, I would like to here
what you have to say.  Thanks alot 

						John  

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Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: spencer@physics.ucla.edu (Spencer)
Subject: Looking for someone at Tufts
Organization: UCLA Department of Physics
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 21:27:01 GMT

Is there anyone out there from Tufts University?

I am trying to contact a friend in Medical school there.

Thanks,
Matt Spencer

replies by email: spencer@physics.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price)
Subject: Re: fellowships vs. taxes
Reply-To: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Particle Physics Research Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 18:44:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.134845.28347@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, ken@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Ken Shenkman) writes:
>Actually, I've recently been told that the bill that passed the House
>and is now in the sanate is not HR44118, but some other education
                                   ^^^^^ 4418, actually.

>bill. Of course, I hope I'm wrong and you're right, but I believe this
>is rally the case. We still need to bug our reps and senators!

This is correct.  I just spent about half an hour on the phone to various 
people in Washington (numbers below).  HR4418 was put before the House Ways 
and Means committee, and no action has been taken.  This is the bill that I 
typed in a couple of days ago.  

Another bill, HR11 ("Urban Aid Package"), passed the House on July 2, and 
was debated in the Senate on 12 August, but no action was taken.  I have 
been told by our chairman's department that this bill contains many of the 
provisions of HR4418, but I have yet to see the text.  I'm sure it's in the 
Congressional Record, but I haven't been to the library yet.  The Senate is 
currently in recess until about 8 September, so no action will be taken 
before then.

Should anyone else care to make a few phone calls, here are the people I 
talked to:

	800-347-1997  Information about representatives (I didn't call this 
	              number, since I know who my rep. is)

	202-224-3121  Capitol information (an operator, who will connect 
	              you elsewhere within the Capitol)

	202-225-3625  House Ways and Means Committee

	202-225-3456  House Documents

	202-512-2471  Government Printing Office (they offered to send me 
	              the text of HR11 for $37.00; I decided to look in the 
	              Cong. Record first...)

           John Price * * * * price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu
           Where there is no solution, there is no problem.
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From: jtbell@acsu.buffalo.edu (___Red Devil___)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Re: Clinical Psychology Programs
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:07:58 GMT
Organization: EC Productions


	While we are on the subject, I will be graduating with my B.A. soon,
and was wondering if anyone knows anything about Arizona State University.
I like what they have there in the way of disciplines, but I want personal
opinions.
	Anything anyone has would be greatly appreciated!!

			Thanks!!
			   -Jonny B.


-- 
How do you tell which computer on the network has a virus?
  ....It's the one with a stuffed up node.
				-From Rec.humour.funny
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
From: baba@sea.shearson.com (Baba Prasad)
Subject: Doctoral Program in Engineering-Economic Systems at Stanford
Organization: Lehman Brothers, NY
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:24:06 GMT

Hi:

Does anybody know about the doctoral program in 
Engineering-Economic Systems at Stanford University?
I am particularly interested in what background they
look for in incoming students, what tests they prefer, 
and what scores of course, and perhaps most important
of all, the kind of research they do.

To briefly describe my background, I have a BSEE,
and MSCS, and I'm interested in working on mathematical
models for strategic decision making, especially on
investment strategies for R&D projects. My GRE scores
have expired (they were in the range of 2200 total), but
my GMAT score of 720 is still valid.

Please send me e-mail with whatever info you can give.
Thanks in advance for responding.

--baba


Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
From: 75furlong@cua.edu
Subject: Re: Misleading Rec. Letters
Organization: The Catholic University of America
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:12:21 GMT

In article <0095FC31.18C44240@Msu.oscs.montana.edu>, uchpcjv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
>> It is
>>impossible for students to realize this since they often are required
>>to waive the right to inspect the letter before it is sent.
> 
> Is this always true?  I think you can usually (?) check a box that says
> "do" or "do not" (waive...).
>>
>>I was wondering if anybody has experienced this or if there is anyway
>>to deal with it.  I don't want my potential admission to go down the 
>>drain due to a misleading recommendation letter.

On this subject, I have heard from admissions folks that your
application is not taken nearly so seriously if you are not willing to waive
the right to see your rec letters. This might be something to keep in mind....
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
From: crawford@church.mitre.org (Randy Crawford)
Subject: Re: Info on CS grad programs ?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 05:46:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.112201.664@news.eng.convex.com> pelakh@convex.com (Boris Pelakh) writes:
>I am trying to find some information about graduate schools teaching a
>good compiler cirriculum. My main candidates so far have been Rice U. in
>Houston and OGI in Beaverton, OR. Does anyone have any opinions of these
>schools as well as contact points to their CS grad programs ? Also, how
>tough are they to get into ?

Rice is a young department, and almost entirely composed of language theorists
and functional language implementors.  I suspect it has a strong program, but
according to them, it is a bitch to gain acceptance -- something like 5% of
applicants.

If you are interested in optimization, you might look into U. of Illinois or
Purdue.  Both are very well respected overall.  Illinois also accepts few of
its applicants.  I don't know about Purdue.

Remember that the numbers provided in the Peterson's graduate study guide 
include admissions of terminal MS applicants, and are seriously inflated
when compared to PhD admissions.  As an example, Columbia states that they
accept something like 40% of applicants.  But I was told point blank by 
a employee in their admissions office that they had some 300 applicants for
only 25 openings, which is more like 8%.

In seeking good compiler schools, you might also look in publications like
ACM's TOPLAS for active authors in the areas you find interesting.  That'll
also be a big help in writing your Statements of Purpose as well as making
you look good at interview time.

-- 

| Randy Crawford        crawford@mitre.org        The MITRE Corporation
|                                                 7525 Colshire Dr., MS Z421
| N=1 -> P=NP           703 883-7940              McLean, VA  22102
From: ken@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Ken Shenkman)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Re: fellowships vs. taxes
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:48:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <1992Aug27.150213.28478@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff) writes:
>jmclaughlin@gems.vcu.edu writes:
>
>>In article <1992Aug23.174145.24639@uwm.edu>, ggraef@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Gerald Luther Graef) writes:
>>> Has anyone heard what the status of the bill introduced to the U.S.
>>> House of Representitives regarding returning fellowships/grants to
>>> non-taxable status? (I think its HR 466 or somesuch.)
>>> 
>>> thanks...
>>> 
>>I was told today by a friend at U of Penn that he had received notice in his 
>>mailbox from fellow grad students that it had gone through.  Can anyone 
>>confirm this???  (If it's true, I need to find out how to get my money back!)
>
>>						Thanks!
>>						  Judy
>
>I heard that it had passed the House and was sent to the Senate a
>month ago.  It passed in some Senate committee and was due
>before the full Senate in early August, but I haven't heard whether
>any action has been taken on it yet.


Actually, I've recently been told that the bill that passed the House
and is now in the sanate is not HR44118, but some other education
bill. Of course, I hope I'm wrong and you're right, but I believe this
is rally the case. We still need to bug our reps and senators!

Ken
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: AK.AER@forsythe.stanford.edu (Annie Roskin)
Subject: A Plea for Rankings, and a Promise
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:35:50 GMT

If you know in which month this past winter U.S. News and World
Report published its rankings of social science and humanities
departments (in some fields--not all), please let me know by
sending e-mail to this address.  Thanks for your help.

P.S.  Solemn Promise:  If someone (finally) answers this for me,
      I promise never to request ranking information again over
      the net.  Furthermore, I promise only to pass on this
      information with an ominous (yet appropriate) statement
      about the limitations of the rankings.
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: hasn@midway.uchicago.edu (Sheheryar Hasnain)
Subject: Advice on MFA
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:29:21 GMT

I need some advice.  I was initially an art major but later went on to 
do economics and subsequently an MBA (for practical reasons...I sold out!).
Actually two major reasons that I did not do art were the cost of supplies 
here in the US, and
the limited market in my home country, Pakistan (Islamic rule discouraged
art study and infact at the time the govt closed down the two major schools
of art in the city (Karachi)). In any case, now about 9 years later, working 
full time (in finance/accounting), I am attempting to revive my creative side 
by taking some courses in drawing and photo with continuing ed at the
University of Chicago.  I also bought a new guitar and have been practicing 
the scales pretty regularly (trying to get my fingers in the shape they
were in during college).  In addition I have started to write short stories
again and they seem to be coming along pretty well. Telling from the 
satisfaction I feel from these recent activities, I would like to get an MFA. 
The problem is two fold: (1) (Little)Time, and (2) (No) Portfolio. 
Obviously I would like to go part time but I dont know how many places offer
MFAs part time.  Also, does any MFA program offer financing/aid?
Most importantly, I have a pretty skimpy portfolio comprising of some short
stories, a few guitar pieces and some charcoal and pen sketches.  Do MFA
programs require extensive portfolios?  Do they consider people with my 
background (econ/business)?  I'll probably be in Chicago for the next few years
so I am interested in Columbia College.  Off all my "hobbies" I think I would
like to go into drawing/photography, general visual stuff.
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

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From: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price)
Subject: Re: fellowships vs. taxes
Reply-To: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Particle Physics Research Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 06:40:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.174145.24639@uwm.edu>, ggraef@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Gerald Luther Graef) writes:
>Has anyone heard what the status of the bill introduced to the U.S.
>House of Representitives regarding returning fellowships/grants to
>non-taxable status? (I think its HR 466 or somesuch.)

It's HR 4418, introduced by some guy in Florida (I think his name's Lewis). 
I have the text at home, and will post it when I get it.

           John Price * * * * price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu
           Where there is no solution, there is no problem.
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From: aronson@helios.ece.arizona.edu (John Aronson)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: University of Washington: Info needed
Summary: EE grad info needed
Keywords: UW, EE, Grad, Digital systems, info, thanks!
Date: 31 Aug 92 06:18:10 GMT
Distribution: na,local
Organization: U of Arizona Electrical and Computer Engineeering


	It just dawned on me that I'm graduating this December.  One of my
option is of course Grad school.  I am seeking anyone who has knowlegde of the
Electrical Engineering department at the University of Washington.  I'm 
considering studing digital systems and computer hardware.  If anyone out there
in netland has any information/opinions about this program, I would like to here
what you have to say.  Thanks alot 

						John  

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Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: mtl@cs.brown.edu (Ming-Tsung Lu)
Subject: Department of Fine Arts
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:45:35 GMT

 	Does anyone have a list with the ranking for Fine Arts
	or know any good Fine Arts School (for Master's degree)?	
	A friend of mine is trying to fine a good school here.

	Thanks for your help!

	Ming

Keywords: 

Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
From: uchpcjv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: Re: Misleading Rec. Letters
Reply-To: uchpcjv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:05:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.194336.26817@eng.umd.edu>, anonymous in College Park  writes:
>
>I'm currently a Master's student and will be applying to several
>other Universities for the PhD program.  I'm concerned about getting 
>a letter of recommendation from my advisor.  I've heard instances
>where Professors have wanted so badly to keep their current
>students that they have knowingly given bad recommendations.  It is
>impossible for students to realize this since they often are required
>to waive the right to inspect the letter before it is sent.

Is this always true?  I think you can usually (?) check a box that says
"do" or "do not" (waive...).
>
>I was wondering if anybody has experienced this or if there is anyway
>to deal with it.  I don't want my potential admission to go down the 
>drain due to a misleading recommendation letter.
>
>Waiting for a response.........

If your advisor has your BEST INTERESTS in mind, he will support your 
decisions...or at least tell you his OPINION.  If your advisor doesn't
have your best interests in mind, your options are (1)  get a new one,
(2)  go somewhere else and don't worry about his reference (3) in extreme
cases, go over his head (some people have killed their advisors -- no comment).

Good luck.  Remember...it's a @#$%^&* jungle out there...and IN there...
>
>Dave
>
>
From: jmclaughlin@gems.vcu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Re: fellowships vs. taxes
Date: 23 Aug 92 18:32:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Medical College of Virginia

In article <1992Aug23.174145.24639@uwm.edu>, ggraef@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Gerald Luther Graef) writes:
> Has anyone heard what the status of the bill introduced to the U.S.
> House of Representitives regarding returning fellowships/grants to
> non-taxable status? (I think its HR 466 or somesuch.)
> 
> thanks...
> 
I was told today by a friend at U of Penn that he had received notice in his 
mailbox from fellow grad students that it had gone through.  Can anyone 
confirm this???  (If it's true, I need to find out how to get my money back!)

						Thanks!
						  Judy
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