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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:53:38 PST
Reply-To:     rap@uclink.berkeley.edu
From:         "Richard A. Peters" <rap@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Teacher sends thanks

In Message Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:37:20 EST  Cathy Brandt writes:

> ... But, we must face the fact that more and more families
>are going to want to keep their kids at home.  That means that the public
>school IS going to be educating deaf kids.  IMHO the best thing that deaf
>adults can do then is to be a positive influence and help develop strong
>programs within public education.  The FACT is that not all deaf kids are going
>to be brought up in residential environments within a deaf culture.  So, if
>this is critical to their self-esteem and their education we must find ways to
>provide them with it in the public school.

Exactly.  An it must be remembered that in this area there is a considerable
difference between the deaf minority and ethnic minorities.  Excluding the
parents who really don't care that much about their children, (and
unfortunately that is a big exclusion), ethnic minority parents have grown
up learning how to live as minority children and therefore are able to
equip their children in the tools needed to maintain some semblance of
self-esteem.  Deaf children of hearing parents may not be able to adequately
get this training from their parents who may have no real experiences of
what it means to live a life as a minority.  The educational system must
help in this area, and this is going to require a real commitment from the
deaf community and from the education administrations to work well with each
other, or these children may not gain the necessary skills to live
fulfilling lives.

>Cathy - teacher of children who are disappointed because we don't have snow!
Richard - parent of children who live where there is no snow.   :-(   :-)
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:08:09 GMT
From:         Bosco Keown <keown@VNET.IBM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Suggestions for Deaf people to study?

Ref:  Judy Tingley's posting of Fri, 11 Dec 1992 09:59:27 -0600

While Weitbrecht gets the credit for the invention of the coupler,
we should also bear in mind that two other deaf men helped him get
it established and accepted as the TTY. They are Andrew Saks (deceased)
and Dr. James Marsters.

Bosco.

Bosco Keown,
CICS/6000 Development,         | VNET     : KEOWN at WINVMC
IBM UK Laboratories, Ltd.,     | IBMIPNET : keown@harpo.hursley.ibm.com
Hursley Park,                  | Internet : keown@vnet.ibm.com
Winchester, England.           | BITNET   : KEOWN at VNET
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:38:14 ECT
From:         john hagan <AS0JFH@BINGVMB.BITNET>
Subject:      Waterloo SCRIPT and a XEROX 4850 printer

Hello,

Has anyone out there had any experience using Waterloo SCRIPT with a
Xerox 4850 printer?  We are interested in finding out how one
specifies in a SCRIPT job which paper tray is to be used.  We had
hoped to use postscript which this printer apparently supports.
I also read in one of the 4850 manuals something about this printer
supporting Xerox Interpress.  Waterloo Script 90.1 supports the Xerox
4045 printer using Interpress - has anyone used this driver with a
Xerox 4850?  Or, do I have to use the .oc control word in some way
to issue commands in some sort of 4850 command language that will tell
the printer which paper tray to use?  Using postscript would be the
preferred method here.

We are running Waterloo Script 89.1 under VM/ESA and MVS/ESA.  I am in the
process of installing Waterloo Script 90.1 under the above mentioned
platforms.  Thanks in advance for any and all help.

                                  -john
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:06:03 +0100
Reply-To:     Lars Henrik Mathiesen <thorinn@DIKU.DK>
From:         Lars Henrik Mathiesen <thorinn@DIKU.DK>
Subject:      problem solved
              15 Dec 1992 10:26:33 EST <9212151532.AA23536@odin.diku.dk>

The mischeivous character was not a slash, '/', but a backslash, '\',
which is used in mail headers to disable the syntactic function of all
sorts of characters. Generally, quotes, '"', around names in headers
are superfluous, but not dangerous; however, if the name contains any
of '()[]<>.,;:@', it must be quoted. ('"' and '\' have to be disabled
with a preceding '\', even inside a quoted name.)

Jamie's MUA (Mail User Agent) is arguably deficient: it did detect the
special character in the supplied name, but did not efficiently quote
it --- it should have been "\\".

The Judge does not know about all this: it just compares addresses
character by character. If your MUA puts your name into From: and/or
Reply-To: headers, you will have to register the exact same string,
quotes and all. (It does save a header from the registration message
as well, so if you always use the same account, there is no problem.)

Lars Mathiesen (U of Copenhagen CS Dep) <thorinn@diku.dk> (Humour NOT marked)
From: MCWHORTER_D@ALB000.DNET.GE.COM (Dean McWhorter)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.dipl-l
Subject: quick question
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:15:41 GMT
Reply-To: Dean McWhorter <MCWHORTER_D@ALB000.DNET.GE.COM>
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	Please forgive my forgetfulness. I have what should be a very
	easy question for everyone. I just can't remember the answer
	myself. Okay, here's the scenario ...


			A ------ B -------- C
				 |
				 |
				 |
				 D

	B is supporting D
	C is supporting B

	If A attempts to move to B (with no support for the move), then
	is B support of D broken? Or does the support from B prevent the
	cutting?

						Thanks, Dean
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:26:33 EST
Reply-To:     Jamie <PL436000@BROWNVM.BITNET>
From:         Jamie <PL436000@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      problem solved

Thanks to Danny for a serendipitous suggestion.
What happened was that I typed a stray "/" in the header line for my
name. It was just a typo. My mailer puts little marks like that in
quotation marks. And I think JUDGE's mailer reads the slash and then
doesn't treat the second " as a quotation mark. So it thought my mail
had an open quote with no close quote in the header.
(Danny told me not to use quotes in my name for JUDGE, and I never do,
but his suggestion led me to the real source of the problem.)
Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions.


Jamie
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:16:14 EST
Reply-To:     Nick Fitzpatrick <nick@SUNBURN.UWATERLOO.CA>
From:         Nick Fitzpatrick <nick@SUNBURN.UWATERLOO.CA>
Subject:      Re: quick question

I received the following message in the daily error messages from
DIPL-L, it appears that it was not posted, as LISTSERV has a safety
feature, that checks mail to see if it is looping . . ., it made a mistake
this time, when it say the bottom of the mail message . . ., the moral:
edit the Reply-To: lines out of any mail you are responding to .....

Nick


Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 11:40:26 EST
From: rgleason@LEGENT.COM
Message-Id: <9212181640.AA03724@zaphod.westboro.legent.com>
To: DIPL-L@mitvma.mit.edu
Subject: Re: quick question

(dusting off rulebook)

RULE X. Cutting support

If a unit ordered to support in a given spaceis attacked from a space different
 from the one into which
it was giving support, or is dislodged by an attack from any space, including
 the one into which it is giving
support, then its support is "cut".  The unit that was to have received that
 support then does not receive it.

----- Begin Included Message -----

	Please forgive my forgetfulness. I have what should be a very
	easy question for everyone. I just can't remember the answer
	myself. Okay, here's the scenario ...


			A ------ B -------- C
				 |
				 |
				 |
				 D

	B is supporting D
	C is supporting B

	If A attempts to move to B (with no support for the move), then
	is B support of D broken? Or does the support from B prevent the
	cutting?

						Thanks, Dean


----- End Included Message -----
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:31:04 -0500
Reply-To:     David C Kovar <kovar@WORLD.STD.COM>
From:         David C Kovar <kovar@WORLD.STD.COM>
Subject:      Judge problem - probably not.

>Uh oh.
>I just sent mail to JUDGE and got back a message from its mailer daemon.
>Something about JUDGE being "UNBALANCED"?
>If anyone else has this problem, please post right away. We should
>probably stop sending mail to JUDGE for a while if there's a problem at
>its end.

  First off, it would be helpful if you'd say which judge.

  Secondly, I suspect the error message was telling you that
you unbalanced parens, braces, or something else - ie, there
was something wrong with your mail message's headers, not
anything wrong with the judge.

-David
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 11:46:11 EST
Reply-To:     rgleason@LEGENT.COM
From:         rgleason@LEGENT.COM
Subject:      Re: quick question - part 2

(dusting off rulebook again...)

Example 10.

GERMANY:  A Ber Holds, A Mun-Sil
RUSSIA:  A Pru-Ber, A Sil S Pru-Ber, A Boh-Mun, A Tyr S A Boh-Mun

Note here that the German army in Munich is dislodged by a Russian attack, but
 that it is still able to cut
the support of the Russian A Sil and thus prevent the Russian A Pru from
 entering Berlin.

Answer:  Yes, even though A is dislodged it still cuts B's support.

----- Begin Included Message -----

From: Dean McWhorter <MCWHORTER_D@ALB000.DNET.GE.COM>
Subject:      quick question - part 2
To: Roger Gleason <rgleason@LEGENT.COM>
Content-Length: 117

	As a follow-up, if A is dislodged, the does it still have
	any effect on B's support of D.

					Thanks again, Dean


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Keywords: Mindanao
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 11:21:24 EST
Reply-To:     Rick Desper <desper@MATH.RUTGERS.EDU>
From:         Rick Desper <desper@MATH.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject:      Another replacment needed

	Martin Brumm has informed me that his game Mindanao needs a
replacment for Russia.  The game is a Youngstown Gunboat no-press. It
is being played on the Washington Judge.  The listing shows Russia
owning only 3 supply centers.  This is just a mop-up job - I don't
think that Russia is long for the world.  Would somebody mind
supervising the death throes?
					Rick
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:33:24 EST
Reply-To:     Rick Desper <desper@MATH.RUTGERS.EDU>
From:         Rick Desper <desper@MATH.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject:      Opening in Burmese

	Well, I seem to have lost my China/Italy player in Burmese.
If anybody would like to try out the five-player Youngstown variant,
here's your chance.  Burmese is a white-press Gunboat five-player
Youngstown game running on the Washington Judge.  The country pairings
are A/E, C/I, F/T, G/J and N/R.  The game is quite early, and no deep
alliances have formed, in my opinion.
	If you are interested, just sign on as either China or Italy,
and send me a note.  We'll have to play with the settings to get your
second country going, but I've done it before, it's possible.
					Rick
					Master of Burmese
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:47:47 EST
Reply-To:     Rick Desper <desper@MATH.RUTGERS.EDU>
From:         Rick Desper <desper@MATH.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject:      Judge? Which Judge?

I've been having no trouble either the EFF Judge or the Washington
Judge.  I'd look closer to home for the source of the problem.
					Rick
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:45:20 EST
Reply-To:     Jamie <PL436000@BROWNVM.BITNET>
From:         Jamie <PL436000@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      JUDGE PROBLEM!

Uh oh.
I just sent mail to JUDGE and got back a message from its mailer daemon.
Something about JUDGE being "UNBALANCED"?
If anyone else has this problem, please post right away. We should
probably stop sending mail to JUDGE for a while if there's a problem at
its end.


      Jamie
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:14:53 EST
Reply-To:     Jamie <PL436000@BROWNVM.BITNET>
From:         Jamie <PL436000@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      my little problem

Yeah, ok, I figured out that it wasn't JUDGE's problem.

I sent mail to the washington judge. Here is the error message I got.
Maybe somebody can tell me what happened. (I didn't do anything
different from what I usually do.)


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From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@bashful.u.washington.edu>
Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail
Message-Id: <9212142242.AA02910@bashful.u.washington.edu>
To: <PL436000@BROWNVM.brown.edu>

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
554 Unbalanced '"'
554 judge@blake.u.washington.edu... Unbalanced '"'
554 judge@blake.u.washington.edu... Unbalanced '"'

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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 92 17:35:10 EST
From: "\" <PL436000%BROWNVM>@BROWNVM.brown.edu
Subject:      Re: Diplomacy notice: fog
To: Diplomatic Adjudicator <judge@u.washington.edu>

[I sent a message, of course, but I have deleted it for
reasons of national security....]

Jamie
From: MCWHORTER_D@ALB000.DNET.GE.COM (Dean McWhorter)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.dipl-l
Subject: quick question - part 2
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:32:33 GMT
Reply-To: Dean McWhorter <MCWHORTER_D@ALB000.DNET.GE.COM>
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	As a follow-up, if A is dislodged, the does it still have
	any effect on B's support of D.

					Thanks again, Dean
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:27:08 EST
From:         Jacquie Wilson <OWI@NIHCU.BITNET>
Subject: Re: A Few Good Men

Cuba Gooding Jr. also made his acting debut in one of the
big films of last year - John Singleton's *Boyz in the
Hood*.
...Jacqueline Wilson
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:54:00 CST
From:         Rolando Recometa <$W$LB4P@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Alex and tears

Alex,
    I have yet to see Babette's Feast. But the last movie that moved
me to tears because of its beauty was An Angel At My Table, last year's
best film in my opinion. I think the reason it wasn't even mentioned
around Oscar time is the fact that it was shown on TV as a miniseries
before it was shown theatrically, thereby disqualifying it. Have you
seen it? Has anybody else seen it?
                                                     Rolando
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:26:00 EST
From:         AMBLY@CLUST1.CLEMSON.EDU
Subject:      Re: Adrian and Angel

Rolando,
        Thanks for the info.  I'm sure I haven't seen it, but I very
interested in checking it out.  However, in the intellectual wasteland
that is Upstate S.C., I doubt very much that I'll find it in any of
the video stores around here.  Woe is me....

Adrian
Clemson
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:01:00 EST
From:         "Mike.Simmons" <20676MES@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Dracula

J-Man
I got real lucky 3 weeks ago.  Went to Montgomery Wards of all places and was
able to purchase a JVC 31 inch TV for $800.00.  This is by far the best price
I have been able to find on this size of tube.  It is a no frills, no window
w/in a window, stereo TV.  I do not know what the lines of resolution are, but
it is a very sharp picture.  Laserdisc player is next!
Mike
MSU.
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:29:46 CST
From:         C444307@MIZZOU1.BITNET
Subject:      Thunderheart/A Midnight Clear

I turned in my last paper of the semester on
Wednesday. YES!!!

And am now starting to catch up on some movies
I've wanted to see.

Thunderheart I thought was interesting and a pretty
decent film, but in honesty I was a little disappointed.
I thought it dragged quite a bit.

A Midnight Clear I thought was excellent all the way
around.  A very good, solid film with much style and
detail.  It was a very sad and yet beautiful film I
thought.

Tonight I've rented out _Sister Act_ and _Lawnmower Man_.
(Yah I know there is a lot of moaning out there right now;
but I got this quirky/juvenile side of me that enjoys bad
horror movies (e.g. People Under the Stairs, Child's Play, etc.))
Hmmmmm.  Bad horror movies, is there such a thing is a good
horror movie??  I would say The Shining was a well done movie that
was also definitely in the horror genre.  Any other additions?

By the way Leah, don't feel left out.
I believe there are quite a few of us that
do rentals more than we would like
to.  I know for myself, doing the grad school
thing, with a 6 month old daughter, & my wife
pulling part time hours on weekends.....
Well sufice it to say, I don't get to the theater
near as much as I would like to.  So welcome
aboard my fellow renting friend.

Joe Daus   U of MO-Columbia
C444307@MIZZOU1.bitnet
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Subject:      Re: Turkeys

                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     14-Dec-1992 05:04pm EST
                                        From:     Ellen L. Gfroehrer
                                                  ELGFROEHRER
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TO:  Remote Network Mail User             ( _IN%CINEMA-L@AUVM.BITNET )


Subject: Re: Turkeys

Anita,

I thought that was the Hemlock Remover.

Signed,
Socrates
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:59:44 EST
From:         GEORGE RAISER <ST402234@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Perfect Actor, No Dialogue, 6 Handkercheifs

I'm sorry if these topics may be out of date, but I'm not in the habit
of checking email frequently. Some were just too interesting not to
comment on:

1) THE PERFECT ACTOR:  I remember being in the Guinness world record
museum once and it listed one actor as being the most versatile ever ,
as if that were an objective category.  They picked Robert Duvall and
after thinking about it for a while and reading some of his past roles, I
must agree that you could make a good case for him.  Others on the list can
give all of his films, but I'll list three that I can think of (and these
are VERY different roles): Tender Mercies, The Godfather, and
Apocalypse Now.

2) SCENES WITHOUT DIALOGUE: Someone mentioned that the best scenes on film
are the ones without dialogue.  I don't know if I can say the same thing.
Surely there are worthy scenes both w/ and w/o words being spoken.  Some of
my favorite scenes included dialogue of some sort.  Two that I can mention
off the top of my head are: Rick and Ilsa at the airport in Casablanca
before he sends her off with Victor Lazlo and the attempt on the Irish boss'
life in Miller's Crossing while the song Danny Boy played in the background.
That song seems to really make that scene something special.

3) SIX HANDKERCHEIFS: For me, it's the part of Judgement at Nuremberg when
the prosecutor displays those films and describes in detail the atrocities
committed during the Holocaust.  I can't see how anyone could watch that and
not be moved.

---George
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:52:26 -0500
From:         Ens Alexander W Ellermann <ellerman@NORFOLK.NADN.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      A Soldier's Story & more

Does anyone know if the soundtrack to A Soldier's Story is
available?  If so, where?

Thank you.  I've been looking for it for a long time.

                                                 Alex

BTW  I saw A Few Good Men over the weekend & lost track of time for a
couple of hours.  Naturally, it was rife with technical mistakes, but it
was a good ride anyway.

Also, thanks to RJC for the Nat King Cole Christmas album tip.  I love it.

And finally, I saw The General this weekend, too (among others - it was a
film fest weekend) & it did not make me life.  I'll take my man Charlie any
time.
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