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From: jmk3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell)
Subject: >>Joh Logan, IIGS tech/prog info
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date:  3 Oct 92 00:44:49 GMT

>> John Logan, new IIGS user looking for tech/programming info
 
  Apple/Addison-Wesley publishes the official technical library for the IIGS
(and 8-bit II and Mac). It consists of: Technical Intro to the IIGS,
Programmers' Intro to the IIGS, IIGS Toolbox Reference Vol. I-III, GS/OS
Reference, IIGS Firmware Reference, IIGS Hardware Reference 2nd ed.
 
There is also a ROM 3 Firmware Ref update and System 6 Ref for Programmers.
The Firmware Update is _only_ available from Resource Central and the System 6
Ref is published by ByteWorks, but it is the _official_ reference from Apple's
info.
 
Few bookstores carry any of these. Resource Central carries all of them. They
are at 913-469-6502. They also publish a number of Apple II newsletters,
A2-Central being the "general" one.
 
Of the books, I would say all but the Firmware and Hardware Ref are mandatory.
There is also a ProDOS 8 Technical Ref, but if you are a programmer and you
don't have any unusual needs like stealing certain memory for animation, you
want to program under GS/OS.
 
The standard development environment is the ORCA shell. There is an assembler,
C (ANSI), and Pascal compilers that run under it. If you want to use just
assembly, you might want to consider the vastly faster Merlin 16+ assembler.
Again, Resource Central carries all of this.
 
Also, the IIGS Reference books are references, not tutorials. There are a
number of books that "teach" the IIGS in assembly. The Programmers' Intro from
Apple uses asm, C, and Pascal, but is out of date and uses the TML Pascal
compiler which is no longer available. ByteWorks, publisher of the ORCA shell
and languages publishes "Toolbox Programming in Pascal". A C version will be
out shortly. They are at 505-898-8183. Roger Wagner's Apple IIGS Machine
Language for Beginners is a good book and is what got me started (after Apple's
Tech and Prog. Intro), if you can handle assembly. It also is meant for Merlin.
Ron Lichty and David Eyes wrote an intro book that people say is good that uses
the ORCA assembler. Btw, the ORCA assembler is the same (but newer) as the more
official APW (Apple Programmer's Workshop) assembler Apple used to sell.
 
If you have a Mac, there is MPW IIGS Assembler, Pascal, and C (K&R). _If_ you
have a Mac, these are strongly recommended for the faster compile times; I
haven't used them.
 
Merlin 16+ is published by Roger Wagner Publishing.
 
Resource Central carries all the stuff I've mentioned. They are something of a
clearinghouse for Apple II products. They've even taken over distribution of
some products from Apple's APDA.
 
 
Jay
jay.krell@cornell.edu
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From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: VT100 Emulation...
Keywords: modem, vt100, emulation, communication
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:57:20 GMT

ProTERM 3.0 has good VT100 support.

- Eric S.

--
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-------- ACM Member ----- Apple II Alliance Charter Member --------
Erroneous statements and inappropriate opinions stated herein are
caused by network glitches and are not attributable to the author.
From: mday@apple.com (Mark Day)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: 1.AppleTalk 2.Fax/Modems
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:04:45 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <92272.204549KCR103@psuvm.psu.edu>, KCR103@psuvm.psu.edu wrote:
> 
> Today I borrowed somebodys Imagewriter to do some printing and it had a
> network card installed.  I connected the printer to the printer port and
> configured the GS for AppleTalk for slot one, but NOT slot seven.  My GS
> printed to the printer fine, so when can a GS use AppleTalk without setting
> slot seven to AppleTalk.  My hard drive is in slot seven, so the question
> could be of future importance for when I use a Mac for a hard drive.
> 
> Also, is there a Send / Receive Fax Modem available
> for the GS.  I need a fax machine, so I would rather kill two birds ...
> 
> 
> Ken

Since you're using a ROM 3, setting slot 7 to AppleTalk is only needed for
compatibility with some older software, most notably the Apple IIGS
Workstation Software (based on System 3.2) and Aristotle (Apple's classroom
management/program selector product).

Both of the above products used an obsolete (and not reliable) method of
determining if AppleTalk is installed (by checking certain ID bytes in
the slot firmware).  There may be a small number of other third-party
applications out there that use this same method of identifying AppleTalk;
if so, you'd need to set slot 7 to AppleTalk in order to use those
applications.

By now, you're probably wondering why we didn't put those ID bytes in slots
1 and 2 since they contain the real AppleTalk firmware.  On a ROM 3, the
same firmware image is used for both AppleTalk and non-AppleTalk use of
the serial ports, so the ID bytes would be present even if AppleTalk was
turned off.  Also, the presence of the ID bytes imply the existence of a
few entry points at fixed offsets in the firmware; these entry points con-
flicted with entry points in the serial firmware.

Note: even if you have slot 7 set to AppleTalk on a ROM 3, you cannot print
to a network printer by printing to slot 7 (like you would on ROM 1)
because
there are a lot of 0's (BRK's) at the beginning of that slot's firmware).

---
Mark Day, Apple Computer, Inc.
mday@apple.com
From: fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Bummer
Date: 27 Sep 92 03:01:56 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <Ueks40m00WB_1S2EQK@andrew.cmu.edu> gregt+@CMU.EDU (Gregory Ross Thompson) writes:
>  Well, I just upgraded the cache in my 9MHz to 64K (from 32K).
>Doesn't seem to have made much of a difference at all.  Dhrystone
>still gives me 666 in Orca, and the one other performance tester I
>tried still said effective speed around 7MHz.  Oh well.  I'm bummed.
>  Time to invest in a Sanyo '816.

Did either of these tests actively use more than 32K of memory?

>		-Greg

-- 
fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
[ Above opinions are mine, Amdahl has nothing to do with them, etc, etc. ]
From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GS/OS System 5.0.4 vs System 6.0
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:30:34 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <mattd-140992121232@city-lights.apple.com> mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage) writes:
>In article <uerics.716337389@mcl>, uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
>wrote:
>> I have a GS-RAM+ with 4Mb, and I get the "Finder needs at least xxxK to run"
>> message now and then.  I think it's just some bizarre quirk in the system
>> software. :)
> 
>I looked into this recently, and it appears the story is this:
>
>Finder tries to do these things:
>
>1.  Allocate its internal out-of-memory safety buffer
>2.  Start the Resource Manager
>3.  Open its own resource fork and read the entire map into memory
>4.  StartUpTools
>
>If _any_ of these fail, you get the "Finder needs xxxK" message.  That
>means if a program is failing to shut down a tool properly that Finder
>now needs where it didn't before (like TextEdit, perhaps), you might
>see this message.  I'm not 100% sure TLShutDown will avoid the problem
>of not shutting down RAM-based tools you started up.

TLShutDown is definitely -not- a replacement for shutting down all the
tools an application has started up.  TLShutDown will *unload* any RAM-based
tools, but it won't shut them down!  That means the next time the tool
gets loaded, it may still have a nonzero WAP value, so it'll think it's
already started up.  Bad things will happen.

I don't know if leaving-tools-started is behind people's "Finder needs xxxK"
messages or not.  The next version of the Finder displays an error code along
with that message, which is a small improvement.  If anybody can figure out
what's causing it on their system, let me know!  (It's not reproducible for
me.)
-- 
David A. Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc.      |   DAL Systems
Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
Internet:dlyons@apple.com                 |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Superdrive interface for ][s????
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:09:51 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Sep18.141307.25071@tamsun.tamu.edu> jdb8042@tamuts.tamu.edu (John Donald Baker) writes:
>Am I to understand that there is an interface card for Apple ][-series machines
>to use the SuperDrive?
>
>I'd like to know more about this.  Can anyone fill me in?

Yes, it works on the IIe and IIgs & supports the UniDisk 3.5, Apple 3.5,
and Apple SuperDrive.  The full name is "Apple II SuperDrive Card", and
the order number is L0266LL/A.

-- 
David A. Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc.      |   DAL Systems
Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
Internet:dlyons@apple.com                 |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
From: midnight@pro-ace.cts.com (Midnight Wanderer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple..
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:29:27 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-ace]

What all is going on in the Apple world? I havent really had access to tehe
fidonet apple section...
       Is Apple computer. going to come up with anymore system disks or was
6.0 the final chapeter, other than bug patches??

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From: hal@budapest.math.macalstr.edu (Harold Byron Bouma)
Subject: Re: Does GS smartport have enough power for a 3.5" HD too
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:28:34 GMT

Kevin Henigan writes
> 
> Is the power supply in the GS large enough to take 2 3.5's and the
> 40Meg sony HD? What about just one 3.5 & the HD?
> 

	Of course it will! In the GS owner's manual, they have five (5) drives  
connected to the smartport for a maximum 3.5/5.25 configuration. If you are  
conecerned about the power supply, get a heavy duty power supply from AE, and  
that will handle all of your worries.

| Hal Bouma                            | Send mail to: HBouma@Macalstr.edu    |
| Macalester College, St. Paul, MN.    | and           HBouma@Macalstr.Bitnet |
 \  Things that make you go Hmmm:  System 6, GNO, DreamGrafix, SoundMeister  /
  \  Coming sometime this decade for the //GS : NBA! (GNO compatible too!)  /
   \  Drop by and say hi to us anytime on the #AppleIIGS channel on IRC!!  /
From: christopher.caltech.edu!nathan (Nathan Mates)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: How access comp.binaries.apple2
Date: 6 Oct 1992 19:50:24 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: christopher.caltech.edu
Originator: nathan@christopher

   I advertised last week that my programs may be availabe soon at
Caltech's FTP site, and was please to get a response that someone out
there was interested. Cameron Silver asked if I could place the files
on comp.binaries.apple2 so everyone could look at them. My only problem
is that I am an absolute novice at this, and have no idea how to
encrypt (id that's the right word for it) files and then post them. If
anyone could enlighten me, or even the whole net, as I feel that there
are other people out there who would like to post programs, could you
please do so.

   Also, anyone have some tech specs for the fan post in the IIGS like
I asked last week? And Wizardry 5?

nathan@cco.caltech.edu
From: curts@tmpcu.mdc.com (Curt Schroeder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple II DSP card
Date: 28 Sep 1992 16:13:26 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


What happened to this project?  Did it succeed?  Does it exist (if so, for
how much)?

Please respond via email, because I currently don't have time to read the
group (but I wish I could).

Curt

Curt Schroeder | McDonnell Douglas Missile Systems Company      |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: hal@budapest.math.macalstr.edu (Harold Byron Bouma)
Subject: RE: Use for an Apple II+
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 22:15:52 GMT

Dave Shaffer <DCS4@psuvm.psu.edu> writes
> 
> The question is simple. Does anyone know of anything
> in particular that the II+ could be used for? It seems
> most of the educational software -- and pretty much anything
> else we know of, for that matter -- runs fine on the  IIe
> but won't boot up properly on the II+ for lack of memory.
> I think a II+ runs at 48K, the enhanced IIes at 128K.
 
	Perhaps, the best thing the II+ is useful for you right now is
just as what you're using it for: a dumb terminal. With the lowecase key mod,  
and a RAM upgrade, it will also do Appleworks for simple SS/DB/WP quite well.
There are a few older games which are proably not very easy to find which do
supply a lot of good laughs. Like Drol, Spare Change, Stellar 7, and Castle  
Wolfenstein and other Apple II classics which have filtered their way into  
other computer platforms recently.

	There are Apple II educational packages out there... Where in the  
world's started out on the II+'s, along with many other packages. You just have  
to look around. Contact Broderbund for more information about their educational  
software, and MECC as well.

| Hal Bouma                            | Send mail to: HBouma@Macalstr.edu    |
| Macalester College, St. Paul, MN.    | and           HBouma@Macalstr.Bitnet |
 \  Things that make you go Hmmm:  System 6, GNO, DreamGrafix, SoundMeister  /
  \  Coming sometime this decade for the //GS : NBA! (GNO compatible too!)  /
   \  Drop by and say hi to us anytime on the #AppleIIGS channel on IRC!!  /
From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Keyboard buffering save/set/restore.
Date: 27 Sep 92 21:23:11 GMT
Organization: Champlain Regional College, St-Lambert QC CANADA

johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz.au (John MacLean) writes:

>It looks like the best way to save/set/restore keyboard buffering (and
>anything else that is editable throught the control panel) is to use
>GETBPARAM to save current values, to use SETBPARAM to update the battery
>RAM buffer with appropriate values, and then to call $E1/0094 to set the
>system into the state indicated by the battery RAM buffer.
>Restoration is similar: use SETBPARAM to update the battery RAM buffer
>with the saved values, and call $E1/0094 to set the system to its
original
>state.

>This works well, and uses only documented tool calls and entry points.
>[Note that $E1/0094 needs to be called in 8 bit native mode - which the
>firmware reference does not tell you].
>-- 
>This net: johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz.au                   Phone: +61 2 427
2999
>That net: uunet!fawlty.towers.oz.au!johnmac             Fax:   +61 2 427
7072
>Snail:    Tower Technology, 1 Apollo Pl,                Home:  +61 2 449
5930
>          Lane Cove, NSW 2066, Australia.

The problem with changing BRAM is that if the user turns off the computer,
reboots, or the program crashes, the BRAM remains set for the value the
program set it to, and it will not revert to the user's setting unless the
user sets it again.

Users set their control panel settings for one reason: because they would
like them to be set (Understatement). So don't change them.

Phil
vandry@Cam.Org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell)
Subject: ProDOS error codes
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date:  5 Oct 92 06:41:19 GMT

>dratzlaf@nyx.cs.du.edu (Norby)
>Subject: ProDOS error codes
 
>Is there an FTP site that has a list of ProDOS / BASIC.SYSTEM error codes?
>I don't have any manuals and am trying to write an error trapping routine
 
Resource Central @(913)469-6502 carries the ProDOS 8 Technical Reference, as
well as the rest of the Apple II technical reference library.
 
jay.krell@cornell.edu
From: schwarts@cps.msu.edu (Steven Eric Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Orca/C Bug?!?!
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:22:34 GMT
Reply-To: schwarts@cps.msu.edu (Steven Eric Schwartz)
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Originator: schwarts@atlantic.cps.msu.edu

I've got a question on a small bug in my version of Orca/C (v1.2).

I cannot seem to get longint variables to work and/or store values over
16384. As an example, this program (typing from memory):

	int i;
	longint j;

	for(i = 0; i <= 15; i++) printf("i=%10d\n",1 << i);

yields as output:

	     1
	     2
	     4
	.
	.
	.
	 16384
	-32767

Any ideas on what's wrong?




-- 
Steven Eric Schwartz            "It's not safe out here. It's wonderous, with
(schwarts@cps.msu.edu)           treasures to satiate desires both subtle and
125 East Wilson Hall-MSU         gross.  But it's not for the timid."
East Lansing, Michigan  48825                           - Q, "Q Who"
From: Eric_Daniel_Schatz@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: BostonFest News?
Date: Tue,  6 Oct 92 16:19:25 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

I spe about three hours a the Expo; in that time the A+
booth was always vacant. I wnet by it maybe four times. They
had up a pretty banner, but there wer no sample issues.
Strangely, across the aisle, LRO had tons of November issues <grin>!

For those that don't know, in the editor's box of the Nov. issue,
Dan Muse submitted his resignation, saying a good editor has to 
know when it was time to move on. he also vented his anger at folk
who badmouthed the magazine after it started running mac stuff.

He asked if the magazine was supposed to ignore the Iie and IIc when they
came out.

It looks like Statt is going to be taking over from Muse, who became managing
editor of Incider in mid-1985 and ed-in-chief in 1987. Good luck!
From: tcomtaob@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: I love Supra! (NOT!)
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:38:34 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

The following revelation escaped John Townsend's lips:
> 
>     503-967-2444  (BBS, 2 line v32bis)

    That's what the documentation says, but I think there are five lines
(all v.32bis 14400, naturally) going into the BBS now.  I haven't had any
problem connecting with the BBS yet.
-- 
Brian T. Tao    =*8-) | ::::::::> tcomtaob@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca <::::::::
Dept. of Exobiology   | :::::> generic!terranet!taob@zoo.toronto.edu <:::::
University of Toronto | "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: WULF@bonnie.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Wulf Hofbauer)
Subject: RE: Deteriorating Apple Monitor
Organization: Physics Dept, University of Stuttgart, FRG
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:36:13 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

>... Fiddle with them both
> back and forth until you get the best results. Set your brightness and
> contrast knobs on the side of the monitor to center before you start. Be very
> careful. You'll be poking around in several kilovolts in there.
> 
> If that doesn't do it, get the CRT tube tested by a service shop. If it tests
> OK, then the transformer itself is getting weak. It can be replaced. If this
> is the case, write abck and I'll give you part #'s and phone numbers.
> 
> And BE CAREFUL in there.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If you don't know *exactly* what you're doing, don't do anything about it
yourself. If you happen to change the anode voltage by accident, the CRT can
emit hazardous levels of X-ray radiation. This is one job that really requires
"qualified service personnel".

- Wulf


"Though this be madness, there is method in it." (Shakespeare)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: sknkwrks@unlv.edu (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: Supra modems vs. USR modems
Organization: Skunk Works Software Co.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 05:13:49 GMT

In article <JDVXRB2w165w@bluemoon.rn.com> slhood@bluemoon.rn.com (Stephen L. Hood) writes:
>        I've been on the verge of purchasing the Supra v.32bis FAX modem 
>for $279 for about a month now.  However, an experienced friend 
>recommended the USR Sportster modem instead.  His justification for the 
>extra cost:  quality.  He informs me that the Supras use a lower quality 
>chip set that is not as widely supported.
>        I trust this information highly, but I am curious what actual 
>application it has to the modem's performance.  I would be interested to 
>hear reports from Supra v.32bis or v.32bis FAX owners about reliability, 
>durability, and compatibility.  I would naturally like to avoid paying an 
>extra $80 just to avoid a certain chip set.

I think your friend doesn't know what he's talking about.  I own a
Supra V.32bis...have one of the earliest ones, and it's worked like a
champ 99.9% of the time.  The few glitches remaining I'll attribute to
the ancient ROMs in it (1.0D); I put in an order for newer ROMs yesterday
(free, BTW) that should fix the few problems I'd had with the modem.

The chipset is reliable enough, IMHO.  The only real difference
between it and whatever USRobotics uses is probably the price.  As a
sysop, I picked up a Supra for only $250...I don't think USR will
equal that for a while yet.

  _/_   Scott Alfter                             Internet: sknkwrks@cs.unlv.edu
 / v \  Call the Skunk Works BBS today!
(IIe (  (702) 894-9619 300-14400 V.32bis Apple II/IBM/Star Trek/Aerospace
 \_^_/  Ask me about SoftDAC--digital audio for your IIe/IIc! Apple II Forever!
From: rheinze@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Colorful snow
Date: 5 Oct 92 10:45:35 GMT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

I have been having problems with some of my folders 
having colorful snow where the icons should be.  Actually
the icons are there, just a lot of static-like multi-colored
dots all in the window all around and over the icons.
Sometimes I can click on them, mostly I can't.

Is this a corrupted memory problem (bad chips)?  or is my
Finder messed up?

Related problem:   What programs are out there to run a
check on my RAM card memory?   GS Memory Board from CVTech
with a piggy back Apple card.
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Orca/C Function Call Disasters
Date: 29 Sep 1992 06:48:02 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu
Keywords: Orca C

uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd) writes:

>	while (...)
>		--(*wordary)= some expression (no function calls);

Are you sure you typed that in right? It's illegal according to ANSI C.
The "--" binds tighter than the "=" and the "=" can't be used on the result
of the "--". Besides, the statement makes no sense; why would you decrement
something and then wipe that value by assigning something to it?

>BTW: I didn't write the program; it's a public domain utility that I'm
>trying to build on the IIGS.

If that _is_ the original code, I'd be pretty interested to hear about it so I
can stay away from anything else written by the same person...

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
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