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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:03:00 EDT
From:         DAVID@ARRAY.FIBG.WPAFB.AF.MIL
Subject:      WIN3-L: Frightening Halloween ideas wanted

Greetings,

  I've been assigned to oversee a 'room' in a community haunted house
this year, and I want to make it very frightening.  The problem is I have
only one room.  I don't have the entire 'house' to work with.  So, I'm
looking for good ideas.  I want to stay away from the typical monster-
jump-out-at-you-and-all-the-females-scream type approach as this works
usually only for the females.  Also, since I have only one room, I really
can't utilize suspense very well (which would be my best option).  If I
kept visitors in my room for 20 or 30 minutes the rest of the 'house'
would begin to complain, and besides we'd have terrible throughput.
So, if you just _happen_ to have any good ideas, or you've been dying to
design your own haunted house ever since you were a little kid and were
disappointed with what your community offered, then THIS is you opportunity.
  Just so you have an idea what I've got to work with, I have a long hall,
about 60 ft, that opens to a large chamber, maybe 60x40 ft.  I can make this
area as dark as I want, so that's not a problem.  I can get a smoke machine
if I want, and I also have a large movie screen (15x20 or so) at my disposal.
I also have, of course, lots of eager actors.
  I should also mention that the 'theme' of my room is Hell, so the more
hellish the better.  Note: the fire marshall won't allow open flames.
(I know, spoils the charm of Hell, doesn't it.)
  The rest of the 'house' can be a little hooky at times (I'm not in charge
of those areas), so I want my area to be exceptionally disturbing,
exceptionally real, and exceptionally unforgettable.
  Some ideas I'm toying with:
    *  the visitors turn a corner and stumble upon a prone body, sufficiently
       mutilated (as much as I can fake).  There's also a pile a fresh
       vomit near the head.  Smells like vomit too.  (I'm not sure how to
       do this one)
    *  the group is lead into a pitch black room, suddenly a curtain falls
       and a wall of entangled bodies is exposed (probably with a slow
       strobe light) perhaps some of the hapless figures are strung up, or
       on torture devices, etc.
    *  the group walks into a lightless room.  After a few moments they realize
       something is in one corner, something large.  It calls to them,
       and converses with them explaining that they are now in it's domain
       (hell), and invites them to partake of it's unique pleasures.  Then
       go on to display to previous two notions, or worse.  This would be
       to most difficult because the thing would _have_ to be realistic.
  Let me know your ideas.  I'll let everyone interested know how it all
turns out.  It would be best to send your ideas to me directly at

  david@array.fibg.wpafb.af.mil

Thanks in advance,

Yr humble net neighbor,

David S McMeans
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Subject: VT320 works (was RE: Working on vt320 emul. on PCPlus for Win)
Date: 1 Oct 92 04:15:47 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Well I got my BS key remapped as a delete key.  I was able to figure out where
the DO key was mapped to.  So far the terminal emulation works like a charm. 
Now all I need to do is to figure out why my Zmodem downloads keep aborting
before any downloads even start.
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 10:49:49 EST
From:         Victor Tewari <TEWARI@NKI.BITNET>
Subject:      Exiting MS-Win3.1 within an application

Greetings and Salutations,
   Is there anyone out there who knows how to exit from MS-Windows 3.1 from
within an application?  I know of some utilities outthere that run as applicati
on and exit windows but I don't think I can use that because that would mean
having a PIF file execute two applications and I don't think you can do that.
I was also wondering if there was a way to communicate with Program Manager or
the windows environment.  If I wrote a program that would spit out keyboard
commands,( such as ALT-F4, Enter) how do I get the Windows environment to
take in this input?  Is this possible?   Thanks.


Victor Tewari
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 10:52:00 +0000
From:         CHDRAKE@MAIL.UAMS.EDU
Subject:      Sound Blaster 1.5

I too have had my sound blaster go nuts under windows 3.1!  I attributed it to
the fact that I am running on a 286/10 with 1 meg.  (Don't laugh, it's a
temporary situation!)  Also make sure that you have the correct driver for
your version of the sound blaster.  I know of three versions of the card, 1.0,
1.5 and 2.0.  The Sound Blaster PRO is version 2.0 and I believe that 1.5 is
the current version of the single channel version.

Microsoft has mentioned getting a chip upgrade from Creative Labs before using
a sound blaster with Windows 3.1, but I don't know what the versions are, or
how to tell.  I think the test utility from Creative Labs can be used to tell!

Another thing, I know that using non-windows or older programs which access
the card directly without using 3.1's multi-media API cause trouble!
Don't run DOS programs that use the Sound Blaster while under windows.

I would be interested if anyone else has seen these problems, and/or has
solutions, etc

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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:06:16 AST
From:         Luciano Barragan UCV <lbarraga@CONICIT.VE>
Subject:      Re: Windows .WAV Files.
              30, 92 4:42 pm

	Hi netter!

	Try at ftp.cica.indiana.edu.
	The directory is: /pub/pc/win3/sounds.
	There is near 4.000.000 bytes of *.wav

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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:28:31 EDT
From:         kdlutes@UALR.EDU
Subject:      RE: W4W - Equation Editor fonts

Did you try going to the Windows Control Panel, choose fonts, and make sure they
    were installed to Windows?
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From:         Rob Lussenburg <LUSSENBURG@RULBUR.LEIDENUNIV.NL>
Subject:      Re: Sounds in Windows 3.1

On Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:44:18 EDT, Arron S. King <aking@HEIDELBERG.EDU> wrote:
> ....
>
> .....  The only problem is that I get
> garbage noise along with the sounds.  Does anyone know if it is...
> a)    the way the driver works ( i.e. nothing can be done.)
> b)    my pc speaker, should I get another speaker, or some sort of filter?

Arron,

It is my experience also that the sounds are not fantastic. You can, however,
use the Windows program Recorder to change the sounds somewhat. I downloaded
a lot of .WAV from CICA, and I found the sounded better (less bad!) when I
quadrupled the speed of them while lowering the volume dramatically. Clearly
you'll have to experiment somewhat here. Or buy that sound board, and then
experiment.


Sincerely,

Rob Lussenburg
Rijksuniversiteit Leiden
the Netherlands
LUSSENBURG@RULBUR.LeidenUniv.nl
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:09:00 PDT
From:         "Alon Ben-Shmuel, EUCS, X 6681" <SHMUEL@CSMCMVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Prospero

Does anyone have any information about using Prospero?
Is there a MS-DOS version available (or Windows)?

-Alon
PS. Is there a site with a compiled copy of WNOS?
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:50:57 EST
From:         Leandre_Racicot@CMR001.BITNET
Subject:      DRDOS 6, SuperStor and Windows

Hi,
   When you use DR DOS and SuperStor, you _must_ do the following:

-Make sure you have the updated (april 1992) version of DR DOS.
 The upgrade files are on many servers as DR6WIN.ZIP.

-If you have a permanent swap file, delete it before installing
 DR DOS. If you decide to use SuperStor, you must keep a
 _contiguous_ uncompressed disk partition and redirect the
 permanent swap file to it.

-DO NOT EVER TRY to use SmartDrive with a SuperStor drive. Use
 SuperPCKwik instead. If your SuperStor drive gets corrupted
 ("read only"), all you can do is back up, delete the file and
 re-install the SuperStor partition.

-The file PCKWIN.SYS _must_ be in CONFIG.SYS and _must_not_ be
 loaded high if you plan to use SuperPCKwik.

HTH.

Benoit Racicot
BPROF02@CMR001.BITNET
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 08:16:00 EDT
From:         CSMAXWELLR@VSCNET.BITNET
Subject:      Sounds in Windows 3.1

        I have read several messages in this conference relating to using sound
in Win31.  I own an Adlib card and have been unsuccessful in getting it to play
.WAV sounds.  There is a driver that comes with Windows for the Adlib card, but
I do not know if this was designed with playing these sounds in mind.  If
anyone knows how to do this, please give me some insight on this issue.

Thank You,
Rodney E. Maxwell
"CSMAXWELLR@VSCNET.BITNET"
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:26:54 -0400
From:         Art Ripley <CART@OBERLIN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: games on windows

If you enjoyed Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, try, Idiana Jones and the Fat
   e
of Atlantis in Win3.1. Not too bad..
Art
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Subject: scanner & software
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:00:51 GMT
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              92 8:34 am

Hi!

I want to buy scanner and I have 2 questions:
Have I to purchase additional software to scan images
( in graphics format) or there is simple standard scanning
program added to each scanner (under Windows).
Is there any PD software which helps to scan images?
And the third and last:
  Any suggestion about kind of scanner to buy?

Thanks in advance?

                    zbych@halina.univ.gda.pl
                    Computer Center
                    University of Gdansk
                    POLAND
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 10:25:51 -0400
From:         Jameson Spence <jess@NEXUS.YORKU.CA>
Subject:      tcp-ip software

I was wondering where I can FTP the most recent windows TCP-IP software
from. I have a older versions of host presenter, ftp serve, file xpress
etc. I often get some strange error messages under windows. The versions I
have were well before WIN 3.1, so I thought maybe a more recent version
would help me out?!?

....Jamie

Jameson Spence
Information Administrator
Telecommunications, 017D Steacie
York University (Ext #22717)
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:21:48 -0400
From:         Louis Jezsik <jezsik@PX2.STFX.CA>
Subject:      Re: Inkjet or Laser Printer?

I am thinking about getting a HP 500 deskjet.  While I have used
one and like it, I am not sure which model I should be looking
for.  Are there any I should avoid or can anyone recommend one
over another.  (This is a WIN3-L question only because WIN3 is
all I use and I'm tired of waiting forever for a page to print).
Thanks for any help
Louis
PS if you reply to me I will summerize to the list
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:27:00 +0100
From:         Quercus <d89pe@PT.HK-R.SE>
Subject:      Re: Starting apps hidden?

>How can I have apps come up hidden at startup?

Try hider. You can get it from CICA.

It's in the Desktop directory and it's called hider10.zip

I hope that this helps you!

	/ Eken / The Oak / Die Eiche / De Eik / Hrast / O Carvalho / Eiken
	/ Le Che^ne / La Encina / Roble / To"lgy / Kashi / Tammi / Alon
	/ Velanidia / An Crann Daire / Xiang Shu / Quercus / Ca^y So^i =
	Paer Ekelund / Tranbaers v 19:4 / 372 38 RONNEBY / SWEDEN =
	d89pe@pt.hk-r.se / d89pe@ide.ide.hk-r.se.

If you know how to spell The Oak in other languages please E-mail me.
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:54:57 BST
From:         Andy Humberston <iah@DMU.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Looking for Windows Cursor Program

GLENN DAVIDSON wrote........
>
> 	Does anyone know of a shareware program to change the cursor in
> Windows 3.1 that is available at an ftp site? I would like to try one which
> can change the colour of the cursor to something else besides white. I like
> to use white as the window background color (best for the eyes when using
> word processing packages) which makes the mouse cursor difficult to see.
>

There is a program called METAMOUSE, I got it from a cover disk.  If its
not on an FTP site, I can upload it (if someone tells me how to do it)

Andy Humberston
De Montfort University
United Kingdom
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:04:25 -0400
From:         Richard Reiner <rreiner@NEXUS.YORKU.CA>
Subject:      Re: TT vs ATM

I find Win 3.1's builtin TT to be far superior to ATM.

    1. TT renders *much* faster.  In my semi-formal tests, between
    	2 and 3 times as fast as ATM 2.0.

    2. Good-quality TT typefaces are better than good-quality ATM
    	typefaces.  The hand-hinting facilities in TT that ATM lacks
    	make this possible.

    3. TT can download typefaces to a Postscript printer incrementally:
    	only the characters that are actually used are dowloaded.  This
    	speeds printing, and results in smaller PS files.



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From:         "Verheulpen W." <waverheu@VUB.AC.BE>
Subject:      Re: CICA and its mirror site through BITNET/EARN
              a

In a posting AFCO73@IRMFAO01.BITNET writes :
>
> Good-day,
>
>    Would someone know how to get to CICA and its mirrored sites through Bitnet
>
> Johnny Hua
> FAO of the UN
> Rome, Italy
> AFCO73@IRMFAO01
>
>
I do not understand from your message if you mean to retrieve stuff
from cica through e-mail & using the ftp server at princeton.
if that is the case youshould send an e-mail like :
FTP ftp.cica.indiana.edu UUENCODE
USER anonymous [your bitnet address]
cd [any subdir you want to retrieve from]
binary  #do not forget this one, very important!
get [filename.zip]
etc...
QUIT

you will get the files in approx 50K chunks through bitnet mail.
Your work to glue the parts together & decode & unzip them;

If you have direct ftp available you could try the mirror site at:
nic.switch.ch 130.59.1.40
I hope this answers your question.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:33:00 CDT
From:         KNOPF@FNAL.BITNET
Subject:      Memory accessing problem

>        I am not able to access a dual port area in the range
>E000:0 and E000:FFFF on the IBM PC AT compatible  under WINDOWS.
>
>I am using :
>
>        80386-SX PC AT , 2 MB ( 640K + 1408K )
>        Windows 3.0 in Standard/Enhanced mode,
>        Borland C++ 2.0
>
  Borland C++ version 2.0 lacks full support of Windows 3.0 or 3.1.
I am not speaking for Mr. Kahn, but I strongly recommend upgrading
to BC++ 3.1 if you want to target your applications at MS Windows...

 Walter Knopf
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:39:27 -0400
From:         zimmer@GW.WMICH.EDU
Subject:      Omnipage Pro -> 9 pin

>         I am  trying  to  recognize  9 pin  fonts with  OmniPage Pro but
> doesn't work as well as I want. I scanned one page and it only recognize
> 10% of this page. I've tried with 9 pin and darker  from scan option but
> still doesn't work. Although, any kind  of  printed  page (laser, books,
> magazine, etc.) recognize it very well. Can anybody help me, PLEASE?
>
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We've also got the OmniPro package.  You're on the right track by selecting
the darken option.  Another suggestion might be to photocopy the text first,
and by suitably premanipulating it, get something workable.  Other than that,
I think you're out of luck with this package, as the instructions do say
that it cannot be trained with dot matrix fonts.

W  WWW   WWW  MM   MMM   UU  UUU  U      Roy Zimmer
W  WW    WW  MM    MM    UU  UUU  U      zimmer@gw.wmich.edu
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W    WW    MM  MM    MM  UUU     UU      Western Michigan University
From: edowdy@vax1.umkc.edu
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Subject: Re: Windows NT
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:29:13 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

In article <EA6E8F472EBF0013E8@imimnvx.irfmn.mnegri.it>, BIANCHI@IMIMNVX.IRFMN.MNEGRI.IT writes:
>> By the way, I have also read that Windows NT is not realy being
>> aimed at the single user, rather at the file server level or greater.
> 
> Yes, for the client side Microsoft will provide the next version of Windows for
> DOS (3.2 or 4.0 or Windows for Workgroup ?). This version will be binary
> compatible with all 32 bit intel hosted NT applications.
> 
> There are rumors about fully multitasking capabilities provided by this new
> version.

	For the new version of windows to stay competitive it darn well better
have full multitasking capabilities.
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From:         JDBER@CONNCOLL.BITNET
Subject: Re: DRDOS 6, SuperStor and Windows

I have never encountered a problem using SmartDrive with a SuperStored disk.
What kind of problems have arisen?

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>       -DO NOT EVER TRY to use SmartDrive with a SuperStor drive. Use
>        SuperPCKwik instead. If your SuperStor drive gets corrupted
>        ("read only"), all you can do is back up, delete the file and
>        re-install the SuperStor partition.
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From:         BAUGHMAN%ADMN@RCKHRST1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Sounds in Win3.1 via PC speaker

I was reading your message about playing sounds with a PC speaker.
Where can I get a driver that will do this, and what is it called.

Thanks
Robert T Baughman
Baughman@rckhrst2
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From: fosterr@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Raymond W. Foster)
Subject: Re: Starting apps hidden?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:12:25 GMT

In article <1686FF44B.PRAETHE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> PRAETHE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Ethan Evan Prater) writes:
>How can I have apps come up hidden at startup? I'm thinking specifically of
>the the iconized apps that sit there the whole session, but never really need
>to be clicked on or anything to do their job. I'm running Win 3.1 and NDW 2.0.
>I see the options for startup as Normal, Maximized, and Minimized, but no
>hidden.
> 
>Thanks for any help you can give--

Since you have Norton Desktop, create a batch file to launch the
application, using the "RunHide" command. Then put the batch file in the
"run" line of your WIN.INI.

Note: this worked with Win 3.0 and NDW 1.0. I haven't tried it
with Win 3.1 and NDW 2.0. 

Ray Foster
fosterr@indiana.edu
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