From: patel-j@glockenspiel.cis.ohio-state.edu (jatin a patel)
Subject: Re: PAKISTAN FOR INDIA OR ARABS ?
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 21:43:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.164859.19542@bernina.ethz.ch> nadeem@igpho (Nadeem Malik) writes:
>msardar@digi.lonestar.org (Mohammed Tariq Sardar) writes:
>: 
>: 
>: Dear friends 
>: 	     I would like to ask our learned colleges the following question
>: whether the future of PAKISTAN lies with INDIA or the disintegrated ARAB world.
>: Iam trying to assess all the possible things  which unite us(PAKISTANI) with the ARABS,
>: other then the religion there  is nothing common between an ARAB and a DESI.
>: The food we eat is different, our languages are totally different( spoken wise,
>: some body will say we read the QURAN which is in ARABIC there for we know the ARABIC 
>: language, not the same as if its your mother tongue), cloths we wear are different, 
>: our national sports are different, most of all, we are geographically miles apart 
>: from each other.  
>: 
>: 
>: In comparison, ask your self the question HOW ARE WE DIFFERENT FROM THE INDIANS ?
>: Other then the religion, we have more things in common with the INDIANS then ARABS, 
>: food is the same, language(spoken) is same, cloths we wear are same, sports ...etc.
>: Most of all  we are geographically located next to each other.
>
>This article is a dangerously misconceived one. There are some fundamental
>assumptions in this article which are simply wrong. 
>
>The very question that Mr Sardar asks is wrong: why cannot the future of Pakistan
>lie with both the Arab World and with India? As a matter of fact, we have reached 
>that point in time where all countries are becomming interdependant (e.g.
>global pollution problem etc.) All nations and cultures are multi-dimensional
>entities, and there is no contradiction in building good links on all sides at
>all levels of culture, diplomacy, trade and finance etc. 
>
>
>Pakistan in particular has a very strong and clear link to the rest of the 
>Muslim World which it should maintain; it is also part of the Indian Subcontinent
>culture which it should also keep and maintain .. in fact how can it do anything
>else?
>
>In short, Mr Saradr's basic question (and implied concepts therein) are 
>entirely ill-posed and wrong, IMHO.
>
>
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>
>
>: In light of all the aboves, iam under the impression that our future lies with
>: IRAN,AFGANSTAIN,INDIA and BANGLADESH rather then the ARAB world. Recent GULF WAR 
>: proved that the oil rich gulf states prefers the WESTERN WORLD. we also know the 
>: concept of UMMAH never existed other then in books. Ever since the first century 
>: of ISLAM we (muslims) have been fighting each other for personnel gains.
>
>
>But this is true of any part of the world: the Christian West has been 
>fighting themselves almost contiuously for the 2 millenia! What you are
>referring to is the universal failure of peoples to live up to their
>relgious principles, not the failure of religion per se. How can Pakistan
>which is the only country ever to be established purely in the name of 
>Islam abandon Islam and the rest of the Muslim World?
>: 
>: 
>: In view of all the things i've mentioned SHOULD WE NOT PURSUE a national policy
>: to mend fences with each other on mutual grounds to iron out our differences? 
>: Are DESI's destine to live in FEAR, HATE and POVERTY, HAVE WE LEARNED ANY THING 
>: FROM HISTORY ?
>
>This is a patently sensible statement -- but it bares no relation whatver to
>the previous parts of your article! This last paragraph stands on its own
>merit, whatever our relationship with the rest of the Muslim World.
>
>I have always advocated better and more rational relationship with India,
>for the sake of both countries. Neither India nor Pakistan can afford
>another war .. but as things are going this is the only certainty if 
>good leadership (i.e. non-corrupt) is not found on both sides soon. The
>best mechanism to defusing the regional cold war is to set up a free 
>economic trading zone, like in Europe and, as of this week, in North
>America.

   And make only one (Indo-Pak) cricket team. I think cricket is spreding
more hatred then anything else.

 
>: 
>: 
>: 						Regards
>: 
>: 						Tariq Sardar
>
>regards
>-Nadeem Malik (nadeem@p.igp.ethz.ch)