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From: john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore)
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Reply-To: john@anasazi.com
Organization: Anasazi Inc, Phoenix AZ USA
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 00:03:25 GMT

Keywords: 

In article <1992Sep12.184941.349@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jks2x@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jason K. Schechner) writes:
]>Of course, anyone with half a brain knows that Limbaugh is kidding
]>when he says that. Listen to him for a bit and you'll realize that he
]>is very much an entertainer. By the way, I was also listening to that
]>show, and I heard it too, but I recognize humour.
]
]
]	Yeah, but the fact of the matter is that the bulk of his
]listeners DON'T have that half a brain.  Almost all (of not all) of
]the people who have access to this network are at least reasonably
]well educated and can see the obvious sarcasm in Rush's statement.
]HOWEVER, the majority of the American people aren't quite that lucky.
](and by lucky I mean a)lucky enough to be intelligent and b)lucky
]enough to have gone to college).  

Hmmm... is this incredibly arrogant, or what?

]	They hear that and it goes through their minds that he really
]will tell them what to think.  Try and remember what the smarter kids
]back in your high school were called.  Right.  The smart kids, in
]general were ridiculed just for being smart.  Intelligenece,
]unfortunately, has gotten a bad rap in American schools in the past
]decade or two.  Turn that around and this country will be back on it's
]way to the top again.

Har har har. Many of the most intelligent people I know are liberal
fools. Intelligence doesn't seem to be that useful a predictor of
social intelligence. Besides, if they do let him tell them what
to think, it's fine with me.... I agree with him on almost
everything (War on Drugs TM excepted).


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From: hellmer@megatek.com (Mike Hellmer CAE account)
Subject: Re: TV show commercials
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:57:43 GMT

attebery@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> 
> Wow, that's a seems like a pretty good time slot.  Here it's on at 12:30am
> and I have yet to see any commercials for it.
> 
> BTW, thanks for the above info.  So far that's a grand total of 4 entries
> for the FAQ.  Oh well, I'm sure I'll be swamped after the show actually
> begins to air.  Here's the four:
> 
> ST  MARKET		CALL	TV/CABLE   AFF	 DAY	TIME
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> KS  Kansas City		KMBC    9          ABC   M-F    12:30-1:30a
> NE  Omaha		KETV    7          ABC   M-F    12m-1a
> TX  Austin		KBVO	42/5	   FOX	 M-F	12n-1p
> NC  Durham		WRDC    28         NBC   M-F    12n-1p

  CA  Los Angeles               5          IND   M-F    3:30p-4:30p
                                ^
I'm down in San Diego, but I get 2 L.A. stations on my cable. I'm pretty sure
it was 5 that I saw the commercial for the show, but now I'm full of doubts
and it may have been 13. However, I'm pretty confident about the time.

Now, does anyone know when it's on a San Diego station? 
-- 
Mike
From: jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Clinton, draft dodger. YUP!
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:36:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology

lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:

>In article <1992Sep9.114544.16234@afit.af.mil> jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:

>	[About some of my posting on this subject...]

>@ Every once in a while, a post like this comes along and I don't know
>@ what to do with it.  Maybe some veteran net posters can email or post
>@ advice.  It doesn't really seam to be worth my time to try and argue
>@ with somebody who is so far afield.  Yet, should obviously flawed and
>@ self-righteous drivel like this go unchallenged?  Most of the time I
>@ leave them alone, expecting most others on the net to see them as they 
>@ are--without any comment from me.

>	That doesn't sound like much of an answer...

If you look real hard at what I wrote, you might notice that it wasn't
intended to be an answer.

-- 

Chip Switzer                            "A witty saying proves nothing." 
jswitzer@afit.af.mil                              -- Voltaire 
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.news-media
From: jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer)
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 11:19:23 GMT

larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way) writes:

>In article <1992Sep9.153704.19033@afit.af.mil> jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:
>   Does an anti-Quayle bias come through loud and clear on this one?  If
>   they had given him the benefit of the doubt, they could have researched
>   it a little more.  But since they are so quick to criticize him, they
>   look a little foolish themselves.

>Does another Whinin' Right non-issue come through loud and clear here or
>what? Poor, poor Danny Quayle. He can't even gloat correctly, huh? Spare me.

Nobody sounds more like a whiner than the person who, when he makes a 
mistake, has to quickly point his finger at someone else and accuse
him of the same.  (Not directed at Clinton, just some of his followers).

>Quayle was the one so quick to try to capitalize on this little slip of
>Clinton's tongue. And a brilliant response it was. And such a relevant
>issue, eh?

It doesn't get any better than this.  I again propose the "e" test for
any future posts you may have.  Before you post it, think about the fuss
the Democrats and the media made of Quayle mispelling a word.  Think
back to how that "non-issue" was brought up by almost every Democratic
speaker at the convention, and then ask yourself if your post will make
you look as foolish.

-- 

Chip Switzer                            "A witty saying proves nothing." 
jswitzer@afit.af.mil                              -- Voltaire 
Xref: sparky alt.rush-limbaugh:4710 alt.fan.dan-quayle:3655
From: chrisda@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (David Christensen)
Subject: Re: Clinton, draft dodger. YUP!
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 19:54:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.235132.28300@afit.af.mil> jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:
>Still curious though, about why Quayle's alleged draft-dodging is a
>political issue and Clinton's acknowledged drug use, infidelity, and
>his own alleged draft-dodging are considered negative campaigning
>by the Republicans.

I thought that by definition, "negative" campaigning was campaigning about what
the other candidate has allegedly done wrong, or not done, etc.  In now common
campaign parlance, it "brings up the negatives" of the other candidate in the
minds of focus group participants.  That is, it leaves voters with a negative
impression of the opposing candidate.  Whole campaigns are built around this
principle (see: Willie Horton, Pledge of Allegiance, 1988.)

It's usually thought that bringing up the opponents negatives can be done more
quickly and cheaply than bringing up your own "positives."  So, although voters
and candidates all say they hate it, it continues... because it works.

Curiously, the reason Michael Dukakis is so rejected now by everybody (remember
he once had a good 55-60% of voters in hand) is because he didn't fight back.
(And he was humorless and unlikable in lots of other ways apart from his ideas)
While Democrats screamed about the Republicans' dirty campaigning in 88, the
lesson learned was:  If you can't beat em, join em.  So, we have Clinton openly
telling all the world how he will hit back.  And doing it.  He may have had a
head start with the earlier convention, but the Republicans got in their licks,
and now we'll have trash talking all the way to November.  We must all like it
a lot, because we continue to cheer them for good hits.
From: howeird@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Clinton's Cabinet (humorous suggestions)
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:56:41 GMT
Organization: HP Research Grants Program

According to eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK):
>For a little levity in the doldrums of politics, I'm interested in what
>you would think a Clinton cabinet would look like. 

This dude is from the south, so:
 
>Secretary of State
His brother

>Secretary of Defense
His dad

>Secretary of Treasury
His mom

>Attorney General
The guy who fixed his last parking ticket

>Secretary of the Interior
Hilary's interior designer

>Secretary of Health and Human Services
His cousin Jim-Bob, the one one the welfare

>Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
The guy who built his last house and got him that kickback on lumber

>Secretary of Energy
The petroleum company president who gave the most to his campaign

>Secretary of Labor
Hilary

>Secretary of Education
His cousin Joe-Bob, the one that dropped outa skule.


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From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Subject: Re: TV station list so far
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 16:18:43 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <5245@news.duke.edu> eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:
>+Here's the TV station list so far:
>+
>+ST  MARKET		CALL	TV/CABLE   AFF	 DAY	TIME
>+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>+CA  Los Angeles	KCOP    13               M-F    1:00a

I just noticed that KCOP is also showing Rush's show at 3:30pm in 
the afternoons. The 1:00 am time slot is a rerun of the show. There's also
an interesting article in today's LA Times (9/11) about Rush on the front
page of the entertainment section.
-- 
John Switzer               | 50 years from now, nobody will
                           | remember Candice Bergen or Murphy
74076.1250@Compuserve.com  | Brown, but every school kid will
jrs@netcom.com             | be taught about President Quayle.
Xref: sparky alt.rush-limbaugh:4664 alt.fan.dan-quayle:3632
From: michael@paul.bu.edu (Michael Chaplin)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Date: 13 Sep 92 02:03:17 GMT
	<1992Sep12.184941.349@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
	<1992Sep13.000325.3310@anasazi.com>
Followup-To: alt.rush-limbaugh
Organization: Boston University
In-reply-to: john@anasazi.com's message of 13 Sep 92 00:03:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.000325.3310@anasazi.com> john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore) writes:
[stuff deleted for brevity]

  =Har har har. Many of the most intelligent people I know are liberal
  =fools. Intelligence doesn't seem to be that useful a predictor of
  =social intelligence. Besides, if they do let him tell them what
  =to think, it's fine with me.... I agree with him on almost
  =everything (War on Drugs TM excepted).

Ask yourself which kind of intelligence (social or otherwise, to 
use your terms) that made:

the computer you're using right now,
the atom bombs and other weaponry that some people think makes
this country great,
the telephones which most people here use to communicate,
the portable CD players, etc., etc...

As for liberal fools, they are out there, but I would
think the term more suited for oxymoronic status, like
"conservative think tank."  ;-)

As somebody earlier posted, the only difference these days
'tween the Dems and the Reps, is in the activities
they wish to regulate.

If you want to reply, at least try to think of something snappy
to say about Quayle- or just get it out of a.f.d-q.

  =John Moore NJ7E, 7525 Clearwater Pkwy, Scottsdale, AZ 85253  (602-951-9326)
  =john@anasazi.com ncar!noao!asuvax!anasaz!john anasaz!john@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
  = - - Saddam Hussein... he just keeps going... and going... and going - -
Chaplin.
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Xref: sparky alt.rush-limbaugh:4402 alt.politics.clinton:4505
From: JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up!  Press Reports It!
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:24:43 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rush-limbaugh
Organization: GM Research Labs

In article <1992Sep9.120715.16501@afit.af.mil>
jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:
>Seems at a campaign stop he railed on the big spending we were doing
>on military weapons systems and brought up the Patriot which "can fly
>through doors and down chimneys."

What's the surprise for?
Clinton has always had trouble recognizing
a Patriot.  Furthermore his lefthand man,
Gore was very promotional for the
so-called Earth Summit, at which
Fidel Castro was treated as a Saint.
The real question is how Corporal Clinton
would use a Patriot, and still maintain
"its political viability within the system".
Xref: sparky alt.rush-limbaugh:4674 alt.fan.dan-quayle:3638
Date: Saturday, 12 Sep 1992 21:55:04 EST
From: <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
 <1992Sep11.131800.26507@news.uiowa.edu> <mjenkins.716220983@cunews>
 <1992Sep13.013527.20429@actrix.gen.nz>

i'd like to know how a person's hand gestures affect his ability to govern.
#! rnews 1001
Xref: sparky alt.rush-limbaugh:4756 alt.news-media:1303 alt.fan.dan-quayle:3693
From: sieferme@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.news-media,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:04:31 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Sep14.121218.19645@anomaly.sbs.risc.net> kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
>Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>
>
>I don't actually know why I'm responding to a posting from New Zealand...
>As if people there actually KNOW anything about American politics, or,
>for that matter, should be sticking their noses into our countries
>political scene...

Thank you, Mr. Xenophobe.  Mr. Withers has shown an understanding
of American politics at least as great as anyone I know, 
and vastly more than Our Boy.
 
You may be surprised to know that the press in most countries
pays a great deal of attention to US elections, vastly more
than our journalists pay to elections outside of the USA.
Distance is no longer an impediment to knowledge, as
long as one is willing to learn.

(stuff deleted)

>Oh, Quayle has done some stupid things while in office. But, so has just
>about every President - Ford falling down all the time, Carter telling us
>how he spent evenings discussing world politics with Amy for her opinions,
>the list goes on and on. However, I wouldn't label them as "incompetence".
>In fact, most of the "stories" about things Quayle has done are better 
>posted to alt.urban.legend than anywhere else.

You must not have seen our periodic posting of DQ quotations,
or read any of the books currently in publication which
document his singular incompetence.  Plus, he's just
damn funny.
-- 
| Eric Sieferman            |    sieferme@u.washington.edu          |
| U. of W., M.C.I.S.        |    (206) 685-3104                     |
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From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.news-media,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Date: 13 Sep 92 03:21:39 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Sep13.013527.20429@actrix.gen.nz> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>In article <mjenkins.716220983@cunews> mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
>> 
>> If he's such an idiot, then why do you waste your breath condemning
>> the man? Get on with life and do something useful.

     Yeah, well take a look at the newsgroups line.  Then go somewhere
     else and pursue your very useful and fruitful life.


>
>I can see why people give Quayle a hard time. He is the Vice-President. If he
>weren't, no one would care how bright/stupid he is. It wouldn't matter. 
> 
>Did you forget that he is a heartbeat away from being your President? Citizens
>owe it to themselves to hound a dunderhead out of office.....only Quayle
>appears too stupid to get the message.
>
   Sorry, but if you want to lay the stupidity at the right doorstep,
   lay it at the doorstep of the citizens who voted him (and his
   boss) into office.  And may well do so again.

   Wayne
From: jxxl@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:39:19 GMT
Reply-To: jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:
# jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke) writes:
# >> Rush Limbaugh seems to be the only popular media
# >> soul who has decided to become rich doing it.
# >
# >There's a sucker born every minute.
# 
# All 13 million of us in the 520 stations around the country.

There have been a lot of minutes in the past. Do the math or take
my word for it.

John
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Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Conservative Chronicle Commercials
From: kmitche@eis.calstate.edu (Kenneth Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 04:29:43 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Sorry, Nathan; I do NOT have a list of all the McClatchy papers. Don't
know if they are all liberal. DO know that the McClatchy family itself IS
liberal, but can't say if this routinely translates into a liberal bias in
their papers. 

There are exceptions, of course; a "black sheep" of the McClatchy family
is trying to buy the Sacramento Union (the conservative competition here)
and claims to want to revive it as a flagship conservative paper. Has even
sued the Bee (the local McClatchy affiliate) with "restraint of trade" et
al. We'll see where that goes. 

I suspect that the "liberal shelving" claims that Rush makes for the CC
are some of his typical hype; he DOES tend to lay it on a bit thick at
times.  

ken Mitchell
kmitche@eis.calstate.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: hooker@aristotle.ils.mwu.edu ( BOB HOOKER)
Subject: Re: Clinton campaigns in Republican territory
Organization: ILS
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:47:15 GMT

In article <1907@celia.UUCP>, steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree) writes:
> 
message presented here.  
> 
>  I actually broke open a cold beer when I heard that story. Now with 75,000
> fans booing and 1 draft dodging article in the LA Times, maybe this race
> will tighten up finally. Remember, "The media profits in a close race.".
>  I did not watch the race. CNN did not play the sound track of boos. So,
> can anyone who watched the race tell me, HOW LOUD WAS IT !!!!
> 

Pretty load,  but not half as funny as watching Bush dodge flying veggies
in a very pro-republican suburub.


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From: jewell@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Larry Jewell)
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: usa 
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:29:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.153704.19033@afit.af.mil> jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:
>>it was "cruise" missiles that could perform these feats...
>>Gerald
>The sea-launched Tomahawk cruise missile *can* do these things.  It
>was one of our foremost "smart" weapons.  Do you remember the reporters
>in Baghdad commenting on the Tomahawk coming down the street and 
>"making a right at the intersection."?  These missiles can be accurate
>to within a few feet.

  Ahem!  NOTHING traveling several hundred miles an hour is going to make
"a right at the intersection."
  If you're going to correct errors, correct them correctly, please.
  A SLCM can hit a 4 square foot target, but the flight path has to be
planned correctly, with NO right angles.

>Does an anti-Quayle bias come through loud and clear on this one?  If
>they had given him the benefit of the doubt, they could have researched
>it a little more.  But since they are so quick to criticize him, they
>look a little foolish themselves.

  If god had given Danny-poo the benefit of a brain, he wouldn't make such
gaffes with such consistent (un)skill.
  Maybe you could research cruise missiles a little more yourself, and PLEASE
don't use CNN for technical spec's.

>Chip Switzer                            "A witty saying proves nothing." 
>jswitzer@afit.af.mil                              -- Voltaire 

Larry J

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From: hooker@aristotle.ils.mwu.edu ( BOB HOOKER)
Subject: Re: Clinton praises Senate action toward China
Organization: ILS
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:40:22 GMT

In article <clinton-chinaU2SF1135ae@clarinet.com>, clarinews@clarinet.com
(UPI) writes:
> 
> 	LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (UPI) -- Democratic presidential candidate Bill
> Clinton says legislation that would condition trade treatment on
> improved human rights in China is a ``mix of carrots and sticks to move
> China in the right direction.''
> 	``It is time to end the failed policy of the Bush administration,''
> Clinton said in a statement following the Senate's action Monday. ``The
> legislation passed...in the Senate proposes a reasonable and carefully
> designed mix of carrots and sticks to move China in the right direction.
> 	``I believe this legislation will advance our interests in the region
> and hasten the dawn of freedom and democracy in China.''
> 	The Senate, despite the threat of a veto, approved a bill that
> conditions most-favored-nation trade status for China on improvement in
> the communist giant's human rights, nuclear proliferation and trade
> record.
> 	``In the three years since the massacre at Tiananmen Square, the Bush
> administration has pursued an ill-advised and failed policy of
> constructive engagement with the aging leaders in China,'' Clinton said.
> ``This policy was supposed to bring China into the community of nations
> and move it closer to democracy. But, as in so many areas, the record of
> the Bush administration is very different from the rhetoric.''
> 
> 
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