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From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Dalek can climb
Date: 19 Dec 92 03:55:23 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <9212182050.aa10558@macbeth.ocpt.ccur.com> hartnett@ocpt.ccur.com (Robert Sean Hartnett) writes:

>Hello,
>	I read an article someone put on the net that they thought
>the scene in Remembrance of the Daleks when the showed the Dalek
>"Flying" (is the word that was used) up the stairs was one of the
>silliest things they had thought they had ever saw. 
>	I think that that scene has got to be one of the all time
>greatest and most memorable scenes in Doctor Who history. When that
>Dalek began to climb or fly up those stairs i was totally awestruck!
>	Besides, how do you even think of trying to control the
>universe if you can't even climb stairs.8)
>	How many scenes like that have in Who have made such a 
>lasting impression on you?

>Later
>RuSH

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I agree that it was a cool scene...I hardly think it was as great as all
that, though.  It was only really affecting because for the longest time the
biggest joke about the Daleks was their inability to climb stairs!  There
are much more affecting scenes that are universal and don't depend on being
a longtime fan for their effect.

Drewcifer
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From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: daleks
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:55:46 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <torresce.724523723@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Alex "Mystic" Soto) writes:

>parsonsg@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (gary parsons) writes:

>>I wonder about the daleks.  Has anyone ever thought of just ducking under 
>>them, grabbing them by their barrels, and flipping them over?  Gary/ex
>>save

>They use psycho kinetic energy to move don't they?  Then perhaps they are
>actually much stronger than they seem.
>	Mystic
>(alex.soto@analog.com)

I don't know about that psychokinetic thing...I recall seeing a diagram of a
Dalek somewhere, and in the diagram the Kaled mutant operated the Dalek with
some special controls.  It's kind of a prosthetic container, if you want to
abuse terminology.

And wasn't there a story or two where the Daleks *were* tipped over?

But then I think it was done via pits.

Anyway, in the early Dalek stories, the Daleks couldn't leave their city
because they were powered by electricity coming through the floors.  That
would make it difficult *and* dangerous to tip them over...though if you
did, you could enervate the Dalek and it would be helpless.  My feeling is
that it would be a difficult task in any case, judging from the wideness of
the base in relation to the head, and from the fact that they're probably
pretty damned heavy.  If you had enough people I'm sure you could do it...if
the Dalek didn't get you with its disruptor first!

Drewcifer

P.S.  I don't know about the rest of you who put in your two cents during
the OLD Adventures debate, but I for one object strongly to being called
derogatory names in a recent post.  It was certainly a good idea to ask
Mr. Byrne for a Who writer's opinion, but I don't enjoy being attacked by Mr.
Isherwood as an "air-head" simply because I had an interest in, and 
participated in, the discussion.  Where, sir, do you get off?
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From: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Subject: daleks
Reply-To: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 20 Dec 92 23:10:55 EST

What I've begun to assume was that the Daleks on Skaro all had
Dalekenium armour, but as they progressed out in space, they encountered
precious few new sources of Dalekenium, and were forced to either
produce fewer Daleks or use other materials for the Dalek shells.
Perhaps some Daleks are even forced to use plastics instead of metal,
making them far lighter and easier to destroy, for the main body of the
shell.  Comments?
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From: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Subject: celery
Reply-To: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 16 Dec 92 01:33:38 EST

Actually, the subject of the Doctor's laundrey is brought up in Cat's
Cradle:  Witch Mark.  Though no explaination is given for how he
accomplishes the feat of avoiding the stuff, Ace notes that the Doctor
*never* seems to change his clothes.

Now, as for me, I think if the Doctor has a swimming pool in his TARDIS
he probably bathes.  And maybe, like Einstein, he just has a lot of
copies of the same suit so that he doesn't have to think about what to
wear.

Or, maybe, there is a clothing dispensor machine like the food
dispensor, but it often gets stuck on one costume?
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From: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Subject: celery
Reply-To: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 20 Dec 92 23:10:57 EST

Maybe block-transfer computational or Eternal celery is somehow more
long-lasting that run-of-the-mill celery, and the Doctor only had to
replace it the once.  This could be because it was "created" in a
different form than normal celery....only a speculation.
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From: domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: The Visitation
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:40:03 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <1gb1n0INN23t@coral.bucknell.edu> norbeck@albiero.cs.bucknell.edu (Naughty Nukes NY in her 1999 Nissan) writes:

>In article <1992Dec8.151822.18234@news.cs.indiana.edu> Liz%Eng%Banyan@magnolia.banyan.com writes:

>>Someone posted something recently about the first season always being the
>>worst.  I do believe "The Visitation" was filmed before "Castrovalva", and
>>was part of the "settling" of Davison's characterization.  

>Actually, if I correctly recall, I was under the impression (probably
>from _A Celebration_ or some such) that it was _Four to Doomsday_ that
>was filmed before Castrovalva (and it was noted that if you check the
>hair length, you can tell, since it was shorter in FtD and Castrovalva.

Actually, 3 stories were filmed before Castrovalva (can't remember which
ones, but Four To Doomsday was one of them, I think...)

Daniel.
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From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: daleks
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:37:41 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

> 
> But seriously, folks, I tend to think that Daleks being light enough for two
> normal humans to lift is a bit less than believable.  OK, yes, it's been
> seen (I assume) so it must be canon, but consider that not only must these
> shells house a Kaled mutant, but they must also house disruptor weapons,
> computers to deal with vision technology and motive technology, speech
> synthesizers, the motive unit itself, and (since the Daleks no longer
> conduct power through metal floors) a power generator to run all this stuff. 
> Even considering that the Daleks' technology is definitely more advanced
> than ours, that's still a *lot* of equipment to be light enough for two men
> to lift.  So if Daleks were consistently this light, we must be forced to
> wonder why!


Remember also that the Daleks in "Invasion of Earth" had their power
transmitted to them via their "satellite dishes" on their backs, hence
eliminating the need for the power generation equipment.  
Thus, the Daleks in "Dalek Invasion" were probably lighter than normal.

Steven.K.Manfred


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From: duzan@thorin.cis.udel.edu (Gary D. Duzan)
Subject: Re: bonnie langford reference
Organization: Your Organization Could Be Here!
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 12:26:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.4153.15280@dosgate> "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com> writes:
=>-> I watched "Bernard & the Genie" last night on A&E. Tell me if I heard
=>-> this quote correctly:
=>->
=>-> "These hotpants much me look like Bonnie Langford!"
=>                   ^^^^
=>
=> Ahem. I meant "make", not "much".
=>
   Well, if so, then I missed that bit. It *was* a hilarious movie,
though, wasn't it? :-)
   Impertinently yours,

                                        Gary Duzan
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                                    Third Regeneration



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From: don@jwt.UUCP (Don Ducharme)
Subject: Re: Visions `93
Organization: Private System -- Orlando, FL.
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 19:33:05 GMT

In article <oNRTVB3w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> doctor8@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Clay Evans) writes:
>I know it's a bit early in the game, but who all is supposed to be at 
>Visions next year? If you could post, I'd be eternally grateful.
>Doctor#8

According to the Visions '92 program book:

"Confirmed thus far are Jon Pertwee, Colin Baker, Sylvester McCoy, John
Levene, Elisabeth Sladen, Sophie Aldred, Jeremy Bentham, John Peel,
Jean-Marc and Randi Lofficier and John Nathan-Turner."

All five surviving Doctors have been invited, now it just remains to be
seen whether or not Her Majesty's Entertainment can get Tom Baker and
Peter Davison (fingers crossed!!).  Either way, it certainly looks like
Visions '93 will be a Doctor Who convention for the Whovian history
books! 






 
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From: taia_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Second Genyosha)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: daleks
Date: 17 Dec 1992 04:13:47 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
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In article <1992Dec16.195546.20444@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik) writes:
>In <torresce.724523723@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Alex "Mystic" Soto) writes:
>>They use psycho kinetic energy to move don't they?  Then perhaps they are
>>actually much stronger than they seem.
>>	Mystic
>>(alex.soto@analog.com)

>I don't know about that psychokinetic thing...I recall seeing a diagram of a
>Dalek somewhere, and in the diagram the Kaled mutant operated the Dalek with
>some special controls.  It's kind of a prosthetic container, if you want to
>abuse terminology.

 Think of the Dalek sheel as a vehicle and you have it. Though this "vehicle"
is completely self contained providing the Kaled Mutant with all of it's
biological functions as well as motion.

>And wasn't there a story or two where the Daleks *were* tipped over?
>But then I think it was done via pits.

 I don't recall those, but the first Dalek story used the old "tip me over"
and "insulate from floor" routine. Besides the "smash till they die" tactic.

>Anyway, in the early Dalek stories, the Daleks couldn't leave their city
>because they were powered by electricity coming through the floors.  That
>would make it difficult *and* dangerous to tip them over...though if you
>did, you could enervate the Dalek and it would be helpless.  My feeling is
>that it would be a difficult task in any case, judging from the wideness of
>the base in relation to the head, and from the fact that they're probably
>pretty damned heavy.  If you had enough people I'm sure you could do it...if
>the Dalek didn't get you with its disruptor first!
>** Andrew David Simchik, registered Scorpio ************* SCHNOPIA! *******
>as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu

 The old Terry Nation Dalek books that they put out in the sixties go on
about these and I find them a lot of fun, though I never got the full set.
Collecting them in the eightes didn't help :(
 The 25th Anniversary books aren't too bad for background knowledge. I use
the public library's copies though.

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From: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Subject: who movies
Reply-To: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 11 Dec 92 14:29:28 EST

Doctor Who and the Daleks is on video.  I assume Daleks - Invasion Earth
2150 is also available.  Both are remakes of 1st Doctor stories, except
the Doctor is a human being (!), an eccentric inventor.  The companions
are also greatly changed.
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From: pisherwo@wm.estec.esa.nl (Phil Isherwood)
Subject: To Johnny Byrne
Reply-To: pisherwo@wm.estec.esa.nl
Organization: ESA/Estec/WMS, Noordwijk, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:37:29 GMT

Dear Mr Byrne,

I have to say that I am pretty tired of seeing the endless discussions
about the viability of a 'Doctor Who: The OLD Adventures' series of
novels. Several people on the net have suggested that the original
script writers/producers/editors etc should be consulted so that their
original concepts aren't warped by the new authors. Since you have
made occasional contributions to the net, perhaps I could persuade you
to enlighten us with some of your views on the subject.

How would you feel about someone basing a novel around the characters
and places created by you ? (ie A new Traken story)

Would you be tempted to write such a novel yourself ?

How did you deal with these issues yourself, when revisiting another
script writer's creations ? (ie Omega, Sea-Devils and Silurians)


I'd like to finish by saying that I have derived a great deal of
enjoyment from your various contributions to the Whoniverse over the
years. Hope you can find a little time to give some feedback on some
of the above points. (Hopefully, it will gag some of the air-heads that
frequent the net and raise the debate to a more constructive level.)

Kindest Regards,

Phil Isherwood
pisherwo@wm.estec.esa.nl
From: gyp9@aber.ac.uk ( The Shirt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Christmas scenes and gifts
Date: 18 Dec 92 10:45:46 GMT
Organization: The Pattern Cutting Room

In article <Fk1PVB1w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
>1) Scenes:  Does ANYONE have a recollection of "The Feast of Stephen". This was
>the DW Christmas episode, but it got lost in the shuffle.  Please post spoilers
>anyone.
From what I have been told this was a story put out at Xmas time
to make a break in a much longer stories (one of the Daleks one I believe).
It dealt with something to do with St. Stephen and Christmas ( a sort of
special I suspose).  
It was not suspossedly very good, howevre what happened at the end of it was
W.Hartnell turned to the camera and wished all the viewers a Merry Christmas
or some such thing. This came over as being silly and ruining the mystism
of the series. 
I have to admit to being too young to remmeber to it, however I know people
who do.
                        Gary

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From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: daleks
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:03:49 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

In article <torresce.724523723@craft.camp.clarkson.edu>, torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Alex "Mystic" Soto) writes:
> parsonsg@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (gary parsons) writes:
> 
>>I wonder about the daleks.  Has anyone ever thought of just ducking under 
>>them, grabbing them by their barrels, and flipping them over?  Gary/ex
>>save
> 
> They use psycho kinetic energy to move don't they?  Then perhaps they are
> actually much stronger than they seem.
> 	Mystic
> (alex.soto@analog.com)
> 

I think the "tipping them over" bit doesn't happen very often just because
they're rather heavy.  It takes a whole gang of people in "Dalek Invasion
of Earth" to upend one.  
Even if you did tip one over, we know now from "Remembrance" that their
motive units can at least get them up stairs.  I would think they might
be able to do something about restoring themselves to a vertical position
too.

Steven.K.Manfred
From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Dr Who Movie
Date: 18 Dec 92 23:00:58 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Dec17.220202.497@rivers> ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:

>In article <1992Dec17.001623.27575@spock.UUCP>, ramirez@spock.uucp (Andreas Orphanides) writes:
>> Does anyone have a script to the "godawful" Dr Who movie?
>> If so, email me at ramirez@choate.edu
>> thanx in advance
>> 
>> ps NO FTP ACCESS so pleeze dont just tell me an ftp site
>> 

>This could be one of two things:
>a) an attempt to illegally violate Johnny Byrne's copyright on that script
>	to which we must *not* respond or
>b) a pretty pathetic attempt to get a rise out of Byrne and have another
>	message from him appear on the net.

>in either case, please, no one send this person that script!  You don't
>have the right, and in any case that one's been abandoned twice over.

>Steven.K.Manfred

Make that three things:
c) a genuine request from someone who's unaware of the fact that it's
illegal to distribute the script in this way

I mean, until I read the above, *I* didn't even know it was illegal...I
assumed that if someone was asking it could be distributed.

Simmer down, Mr. Manfred, give the guy a break!  It might well be (a) or (b)
but innocent until proven guilty, OK?

Drewcifer
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Subject: Carol Ann Ford
From: murrayb@kiwi.gen.nz (Murray Bott)
Date: 10 Dec 92 20:34:44 GMT
Reply-To: murrayb@kiwi.gen.nz (Murray Bott)
Organization: Household UNIX, Auckland, New Zealand


Greetings Everyone
I have started reading this newsgroup in the last ten days . Please forgive
me if this question has been asked before.

I recall watching the early series of this program during the ers the first
three doctors (William Hartnell/Patrick Throughton/John Pertwee)
I have also recently purchased a copy of the Video "Dr Who, The Hartnell Years"
which contains footage from the first episode

Now here is my Question
What ever happened to Carol Ann Ford ?? She was the first Companion of the
doctor (william Harnell)
Is she still acting??? if so what has she appeared in in recent years ??

Generally what has happenned to her?? Where is she now?? what is she doing??

Reply by Email would be satisfactory

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From: jadair@cs.utexas.edu (John S. Adair)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Celery???
Date: 11 Dec 1992 22:38:11 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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In article <nv!rn!k@lynx.unm.edu> doctor@polaris.unm.edu (Doc) writes:
>I forgot why the fifth doctor wore a piece of celery on his jacket.  Could
>anyone out there please tell me? He never took it off and he always had it on.
 
The following explanation is from Caves of Androzani:
  Peri: *Doctor, why do you wear a stick of celery in your lapel?
Doctor: Does it offend you?
  Peri: No, I was just curious.
Doctor: Safety precaution. I'm allergic to certain gases in the Praxis
        range of the spectrum.
  Peri: Well *how does the celery help?
Doctor: If the gas is present, the celery turns purple.
  Peri: And *then what do you do?
Doctor: I _eat_ the celery. If nothing else, I'm sure it's good for my teeth.

Note: *=Peri's stuttering, whiney, bad American accent. :)
      Of course, maybe Peri has a beautiful, crisp, clear, sexy American
      accent and the sound on my tape is just bad. ... Naaah. :)

                                        -John
From: jadair@cs.utexas.edu (John S. Adair)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: McCoy Episodes???
Date: 12 Dec 1992 01:57:40 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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Keywords: McCoy

In article <1992Dec12.052600.19919@wam.umd.edu> timelord@wam.umd.edu
(Lazarus Long) writes:
>I would like to know if anyone out there has a list of episodes
>after "Dragonfire".

At the risk of posting the answer to a FAQ, here goes:
<Time and the Rani>
<Paradise Towers>
<Delta and the Bannermen>
<Dragonfire>
Remembrance of the Daleks
The Happiness Patrol
Silver Nemesis
The Greatest Show in the Galaxy
Battlefield
Ghost Light
The Curse of Fenric
Survival
                                                 -John