HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dario.wolfish@idcbbs.uu.holonet.net (Dario Wolfish) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Same Thing
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:02:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: IDC BBS - Alameda, CA - 510-865-7115
Reply-To: dario.wolfish@idcbbs.uu.holonet.net (Dario Wolfish) 


PL>Does anyone know what band/album was played during the set break from 12/28/

PL>That was the "Same Thing" breakout nite, and I remember really groovin' to t
PL>set break music, but nobody in our area of the coliseum knew who was being
PL>played.

That was cool. I was at that show and although we recognized the son
instantly, we were curious who was going to sing it. I have a good board
of that show.
---
 . SLMR 2.1 . Nothing's for certain, it can always go wrong
                                        
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From: John <JKELLOGG@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: list
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:45:02 GMT

Please put me on your mailing list!!!!
e-mail:  Jkellogg@ucs.indiana.edu
From: hlose@usho99.hou281.chevron.com (B.A.Losee)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: vw vans, bmw 525's, porsche 911 turbos
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:03:32 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <Qf31tgu00WBLA6PrBe@andrew.cmu.edu>, jy0t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jennifer Yablonsky) writes:
|> hey you dead heads
|> 
|> while you guys are driving around in your vw vans living poverty and
|> selling tie dyes jerry's driving a round in a BMW 535 and bob's driving
|> around in Porsche 911 turbo.
|> chew on that for awhile hippies.
|> 
|> "riding that train high on cocaine"
|>                                    -Jerry Garcia

--
I have been listening to the dead for 20 years, and attending concerts when I
get the chance for nearly that long. If I could get as much out of my other
investments of time and/or money as I have from listening to the dead in all
their incantations, I'd be driving a Porsche too. Anything rewards, financial or
otherwise, the boyz have gotten for the experiences and memories they've given me
IMHO is richly deserved.
   
   | Bruce A. Losee, Seismic Division      Mail: hlose@chevron.com |
   | Chevron Exploration Services Co.      Tel:  (713) 596-2025  |
   | P.O. Box 42832                        Fax:  (713) 596-3041  |
   | Houston, Texas  77242-2832            Home: (713) 496-9464  |
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From: Doug Pugh <GB2UBOG@vm.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: RE: Playin in the BLAND??!!
Reply-To: GB2UBOG@vm.tcs.tulane.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:09:27 GMT

Chadwicp@kenyon.edu writes:

 >>Subject:  Playin in the bland

      Playin in the bland? The BLAND???  'Cmon, they've been called many
                               ^^^^^^
      things, but certainly not bland!!!

      Tee hee hee. :-)  :-)  :-)
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From: tracer@carson.u.washington.edu (David P. Tracer)
Subject: Re: Grateful Dead song po
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:08:01 GMT

In article <75874@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt1054a@prism.gatech.EDU (JOHNSTON,JERRY WAYNE) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.232759.11930@u.washington.edu> tracer@carson.u.washington.edu (David P. Tracer) writes:
>>In article <108.1007.uupcb@idcbbs.uu.holonet.net> dario.wolfish@idcbbs.uu.holonet.net (Dario Wolfish)  writes:
>>>
>>>DPT>This one's easy:
>>>
>>>DPT>1. THE ELEVEN
>>>DPT>2. THE ELEVEN
>>>DPT>3. THE ELEVEN
>>>
>	Maybe its just me...........but I think hearing the boys try to pull
>this one back would be kind of disappointing......especially after gorging
>myself on the TFTV cut :-)

The TFTV cut is great, but I think I'll risk the chance of being let down
in order to let the Boys try to bring this one back (I've certainly done
that with a lot of other tunes & have not been disappointed for most).
	************************************************************
        *                       David P. Tracer                    *
        *                  University of Washington                *
        *                   tracer@u.washington.edu                *
        ************************************************************
        *         There are times when I can help you out,         *
        *              and times that you must fall                *
        ************************************************************


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From: BRUGGINK@ccc.nersc.gov
Subject: blue moon of ky
Reply-To: BRUGGINK@ccc.nersc.gov
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:52:20 GMT

 Adam K. Powers [akp1@midway.uchicago.edu] sez:

|the recording sessions.  The set covers 1945-49, the 'classic' Bill Monroe
|years, when Lester Flatt and Earl Scruggs were in the band, and while it isn't
|as uptempo as more recent bluegrass, these guys could really cook!  The
|sound quality is great, considering these are 1940's recordings, and Bill's
|vocals are downright stunning!  After listening to his "Blue Moon of Kentucky"
|you'll forget all about Elvis Presley's version...
|

When Paul McCartney intros Blue Moon in the "Unplugged" show, he says 
something to the effect that this was written by "that Monroe's dad",
presumably meaning that someone in his band is Bill Monroe's son.  I don't
have the CD, but I thought I saw posted somewhere the personnel, and none
had a last name of Monroe.

So, I'd probably be able to sleep again nights if someone could clear this
one up.



|P.S. Check out the rhododendrons on Roan Mountain if you're ever in eastern
|Tennessee in late spring.

Second that! Hard to find anything prettier than TN mts in the spring...


-db
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From: dwstein@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Donald Stein)
Subject: Re: Look for the Label or Tippers Trippin  NOT
Organization: US WEST Information Technologies
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:21:34 GMT

In article <1edu16INNmkv@morrow.stanford.edu>, EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara) writes:
> i recently red a funny forwarded to me by a friend: it stated that
> at a psychiatric institution, seriously disturbed patients who were
> allowed to listen regularly to MTV showed increased hostility and
> aggression, especially toward female employees.
> 
> once the MTV stopped, these poor people mellowed out considerably
> ...
> 
> perhaps if they'd play more dead :)
> 
> lara
> -<-@

I know that Lara was trying to spread some humor but this information, if true,
is disturbing. Is it the music that upsets the patients? I doubt it. My bet is that the patients find the video much more suggestive or disturbing or provacitive.  I know I do and I am not  ***too*** psychotic.  I handle the
situation my just not watching MTV or any other music video channel.

Now before the world flames me for my censorship and lack of artistic taste, I have to say that some videos are good but I don't like abusive sexual relationships or violence for violence's sake in people, books, movies or
music videos.  And I am sure that the people charged with caring for
seriously disturbed patients would gladly keep them from seeing videos if the
caregivers lives are in less danger.

Don Stein
dwstein@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com
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From: hlortz@cqs.washington.edu (Henry Lortz)
Subject: Ticket Grovel Series I
Summary: rejection blues
Keywords: ticket,Oakland
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:09:03 GMT


got my money back today :( If any kind soul has a pair (2) of
tickets for any of 11,12,13 Dec for sale we would be sooo
grateful. reply to hlortz@buck.cqs.washington.edu
Thanks, Henry .
From: mattb@ctron.com (Matthew E. Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: goodbye, too
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:27:41 GMT
Reply-To: mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matthew E. Brown)
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

IWS%ssmic@cdfq.ssd.ray.com writes:
>soon to be former net personna Steve "Reno" "Steve-TOO" Jeck writes:
>| NO I AM NOT JOE HACK, I've just played him before.

>Does this mean that you'll keep on playing him?  Maybe you'll
>even follow in his footsteps?  As in when Joe Hack dries up
>and blows away, you will too???  I hope so :-)

>Phosphordottingly - Ihor

Another positive contribution fron the Good Vibes Guy himself.
Gee, maybe if you can drive off all the people you don't want around,
this group could be as pure as the wheel. Maybe you could be the r.m.gd
moderator, so that all the bad people would go away?

Reminds me of "Lord of the Flies"  Sharpen your sticks and pick out a
victim. Somebody different from you.

Guess what. It never ends, that way, because everybody is different in
one way or onther.

Matt
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From: Jay Rosenstein <jayr@ncsa.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: Good Bluegrass CDs
X-Xxdate: Mon, 16 Nov 92 13:14:29 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Organization: mine
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:13:12 GMT
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A72D4F35FC011AB2@rflight.ncsa.uiuc.edu>

	I'd like to put my two cents worth into this thread.  I'm very happy to
see more and more people getting interested in bluegrass.  Now that rock
and roll is so pompous, and country so commercialized, it seems that
bluegrass is one of the only relatively pure forms of music left.  You
can still go to bluegrass shows and speak to the performers like human
beings, instead of being hearded behind a fence by a bunch of overweight
security men.
	I, like many others here got turned on to bluegrass through "Old and in
the Way", but now I'm a bluegrass head, and even have a bluegrass radio
show.  Anyway, for CD choices:

For anyone, I would recommend "Old and in the Way" as a great place to
start.

Also, for Deadheads who are probably more interested in "progressive"
bluegrass, Peter Rowan's "All On a Rising Day" is an extraordinary album.
 Rowan is an incredible singer and songwriter, his writing is very
contemporary, his singing, incredibly soulful.  Also, Rowan's record with
the Nashville Bluegrass Band is excellent, as is his "Dust Bowl Children"
(which is actually a folk album).

The Seldom Scene's "Live at the Cellar Door" or their "15th Anniversary
Album" are both terrific.

Alison Krauss and Union Station's "Two Highways" is my favorite of all of
Alison's records, but that might be because John Penell, the bassist on
the album is a friend of mine.  You can't go wrong with "I've Got That
Old Feeling", or "Everytime You Say Goodbye" by Alison either, although
both are superior to her first solo album (name escapes me right now).

Tony Rice's "Native American" is also great, although I would only
marginally call it bluegrass.  Rice is probably the finest acoustic
guitarist in bluegrass today.  I prefer this to his more traditional
stuff.

Also, Front Range, a Colorado bluegrass band has a couple of good albums.
 They are also a bit more guitar based and contemporary then many other
bluegrass bands.

Hope this helps.  if any other bluegrass heads would like to get in touch
with me I'd love to hear from you.  I'm always looking for good new
material to play on my show.

Jay
jayr@ncsa.uiuc.edu
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From: jojo@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joanne Spetz)
Subject: anybody seen...
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 23:22:13 GMT

...matt spetz and nomad?  haven't heard from him in a while, wondering
what he's up to.  e-mail preferred.

thanks.

jo
-- 
Joanne Spetz				jojo@leland.stanford.edu	
"I had a lot of good intentions; 
  sit around for fifty years and then collect a pension...
  Started seeing the road to hell and just where it starts"  -Indigo Girls
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From: Bower John R <jbower@venus>
Subject: that bmw thread
Reply-To: jbower@venus
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:10:50 GMT

Lara writes:

"... eatin' that slimfast and doin' that nordik-trak groove"
                                     -Jerry Garcia post 8/92

Close, but it's:
Tryin' to make a body that'll move,
	And I'm sharin' in the nordik-trak groove.

Sorry for the Phish content,
jb
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From: PRRICE@miamiu.bitnet
Subject: Dead-less NYE
Reply-To: PRRICE@miamiu.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:51:39 GMT

As we prepare for the first New Years Eve in a while without a show by the
boys, I was wondering which NYE show people think was the best. I just saw
 a tree for '78, and that would be one of my choices, although '90 was
fairly hot, with Branford. What about '80? I don't think I've heard much
of that one. Did they do an acoustic set?
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From: tnf@well.sf.ca.us (David Gans)
Subject: Re: Dead Hour in South Bay??
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:22:12 GMT

In article <19234@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> fzchen@othello.ucdavis.edu writes:
>When and where can I find the GD Hour in the San Jose area?

It's not on any San Jose stations, but you should be able to get these two
stations:

Monday 10pm KRQR 97.3 (San Francisco)
Wednesday 8pm KPFA 94.1 (Berkeley)

Two different shows each week!


-- 

	David Gans	tnf@well.sf.ca.us
			{apple,pacbell,hplabs,ucbvax}!well!tnf

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From: DAISY GLAZE <APOEHLER@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: RE: CO
Reply-To: APOEHLER@ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:09:53 GMT

I can see why CO residents feel the way they do on this issue; the guy who
responded to my posting (sorry, don't have your name here) had some very well-
thought out points.  HOWEVER....

1).  Though the whole state may not have voted for it, the amendment was passed
     regardless.  It also supercedes any local/county/city legislation that
     contradicts it.  What this means is Denver can enact all the anti-
     homophobia laws it wants to, but none of it will stand up in court 
     because the state amendment supercedes all these laws.  Whether the entire
     state voted for the amendment or not (and when was the last time all
     of ANY group voted for ANYTHING!?! Here on D-F/rec.gdead we can't even
     decide if Donna was great or awful!)
     [sorry, to continue] whether the people of a certain area voted for the
     amendment is irrelevant because it affects the entire state equally, not
     just the areas that voted for it.  Denver may not have wanted it, but
     Denver will be an area that gays are second-class citizens just like all
     other parts of Colorado.
2.)  We can write all the letters we want, but let's face facts: most 
     politicians understand one thing well, and that is money.  If enacting
     this amendment causes a drop in Colorado's GNP, then others will think 
     twice before enacting hate-filled, xenophobic legislation.  It wasn't
     letter writing that repealed the slavery laws, and violent revolution is
     clearly not needed here--what is needed is a good swift kick to the 
     pocketbook.  Funds from this Grateful Dead show WILL go to support the
     state government and those who supported this amendment.  I don't want
     that, and I refuse to support it.
---Aaron
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From: Mark Takaro <mtakaro@library.berkeley.edu>
Subject: Reply to Geoff's question
Reply-To: mtakaro@library.berkeley.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:24:49 GMT


In case you missed the addition to "The Music Never Started..."
Geoff asks

 
|From: Geoffrey Bradshaw <RFEATHER@macc.wisc.edu>
|Subject: Re: the music never started
|Reply-To: RFEATHER@macc.wisc.edu
|Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 00:25:50 GMT
 
|On the theme of this rescent thread, I've got an unlabeled show
|from I'd guess around 69-70, where the sound system is totally
|down and various people talk to the crowd to try and keep eveybody
|interested.  Phil talks for a while, then Country Joe McDonald
|comes out and says something like "Us out here in the bay area
|like to drop a lot of acid.  The stuff they're handin' out today
|may or not be real..."  He goes on like that for a while
|interjected by calls to bring up this or that mike, etc before
|they get everything together and they break into a long sweet
|Dark Star (followed by High Time, Good Lovin' and Truckin').
 
|Can anybody ID this show, there is some great jams going on there
|but unfortunately the pitch is just off enough that everybody
|sounds like they're trying out for Alvin and the Chipmonks.
 
|Geoff /^\
      \~/
 
 
With such an important question as this, I'll have to say that
I am not CERTAIN of the origin, but a tape that I have labeled
as Woodstock has this Country Joe rap and the same tunes, more or
less...
Mine is way lousy, terrible sound, songs that start and then stop
(while the techies fart around with the gear, etc.), but is
retained due to its historical significance.  How's the sound
on yours Geoff?
 
now you know (possibly),
Mark Takaro (mtakaro@library.berkeley.edu)
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From: reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux)
Subject: Re: TICKETBASTARD STORIES WANTED
Reply-To: reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux)
Organization: E 4th St Home For The Overeducated Underemployed - Chicago Div.
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:45:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.193731.11449@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> neacy@atomic.phy.ilstu.edu writes:
>had paid for it.in my naive way i offered the ticket to him ,and he 
>promptly started rubbing at it and testing it for runny ink!! then
>he had the gall of asking me if it was a fake, while simultaneously
>closing a deal to sell a ticket for 55 dollars! this enterprising
>young capitalist was ripping off the innocent while accusing me of 
>forgery.go figger!
>rep

I sure hope that when you saw the $55 change hands you decided not
to sell to him...


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From: Frank Caherty <caherty@wizard.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Re: vw vans, bmw 525's, porsche 911 turbos
Reply-To: caherty@wizard.nrl.navy.mil
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:19:06 GMT

wpc@po.CWRU.Edu (William P. Claspy) writes:
|Bill (with a special how-do to all those I've helped swap #3 cylinders in
|dark gravelly places... ;-)

Remember to *check*that*oil* kiddies, and change it regularly.  And the
next time you end up +50 bux or so, install an external oil cooler.

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From: dbader@eng.umd.edu (David Bader)
Subject: Hunter S. Thompson citing 11/18/92
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 12:59:45 GMT
Organization: Professional Student, University of Maryland, College Park
Summary: Gonzo Gonzo Gonzo
Keywords: My lawyer advices me not to include keywords.

Seen in the "Reliable Source" column by Lois Romano in the Washington
Post 11/18/92:

(posted without any permission whatsoever)

GONZO TOP COP SEARCH

-- Look out, Aspen, Hunter Thompson wants to help pick your next police
chief.
	Mayor John Bennett may have been kidding when he suggested
that the renegade resident be named to the panel interviewing
candidates. But Thompson's not.
	"I'd be happy to help in any way I can, short of acceping the
job myself," the gonzo journalist told the Aspen (Colo.) Daily News.
	Bennett floated the idea after reports that the city manager
intended to name to the search panel a member of the Aspen Partnership
for a Healthy Community, an anti-alcohol and drug group.
	Thompson has flaunted his use of both substances, and
complains that the panel is starting to look like a group "selected by
Dan Quayle."
	"We don't need somebody to come in and clean up the mess," he
told the newspaper, "because we don't have a mess."
	As it stands, the idea of Thompson joining the search
committee remains a joke. But City Manager Ann Margerum says she just
may expand the five-member panel.
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From: NSALON%COLGATEU.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Subject: tape grovel
Reply-To: NSALON%COLGATEU.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:44:14 GMT


        If anyone has a really good recording of MSG 9/18/87 both sets,
please write me so we can work something out.  I've been searching for one
for a looooooong time.  Thanks a lot.

                                        neil salon (NSALON@Colgate.edu)
From: glambert@pyramid.com (George Lambert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Bobby and the Mid's Vid
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:54:35 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology

In article <1992Nov21.194751.20069@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> SHAPLEIG@peocu1.peocu.navy.mil writes:
>Hey all -
>     I was just in Sam Goody's yesterday, looking for the Backstage Pass
>video to see what was on it.  I didn't find it, but instead, I saw what
>has got to be the cheeeeeeeziest video cover for Bobby and the Midnights.
>It's got Weir naked from the chest up bronzed from the sun {mind you
>there was a shade of grey in his chest foliage}, Ponytail, and look of 
>disdain in all of his glory.  Man, the boys must be laughing their collect-
>ive asses off.  I looked on the back, and it didn't look like a very long
>set.  Maybe 8 songs including Festival, Josephine, and Youngblood.  Has 
>anyone else seen this?!!?  I couldn't believe my eyes.

I have it on laser disc.  The same photo and all.  The video is actually
pretty good (multi-camera shoot) from a show in Switzerland.  The sound is
terrific.  Songs include Festival, Youngblood, and Josephine.

Georgie Bob gives it 3.5 stars...check it out.

George Lambert
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From: DAISY GLAZE <APOEHLER@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Amendment 2
Reply-To: APOEHLER@ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:32:56 GMT

One thing that's being ignored in the Colorado debate is that when the Dead
play somewhere, it funnels a LOT of money into that place.  I believe when the
debate over whether or not to allow the Dead back to Eugene was going on, the 
figure was about $1 million dollars.  I don't care what everybody else plans to
do, but I'm not setting foot in the state or sending money to any firm 
operating out of Colorado until the amendment is repealed or superseded by
federal gay rights legislation.  I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with 
me, and the billboard idea is a good one, but I feel too strongly about this
issue to do otherwise.  Though many would be happy not to see Deadheads that
voted for the measure, I think they'd be unhappy not to get the money--after
all, look at all the places that are less than open-armed to Deadheads but
grin and bear it year after year for the cash.  I've got plenty of tapes and
next summer to look forward to--I can live without Colorado.  My apologies to
any CO residents who voted against the bill--I don't mean to offend you--as
well as my condolences.  Hope to see you in a different state on tour nex
year.----Aaron
P.S.  WHat ever happened to 3FTV?  I was under the impression Healy was going
to play cuts from it on the GDH awhile ago--that gave me the impression that
it was a done deal.  I haven't seen anything since then, though.  And what
about the Ken Nordine live album Gans said was coming?  Anyone hear anything
from GDead records about these projects?  (See--I'm already planning where else
I'm going to put that money I alluded to earlier.)  ;-)
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From: lstein@adobe.com (Larry Stein)
Subject: Re: vw vans, bmw 525's, porsche 911 turbos
Followup-To: rec.music.gdead
Organization: Adobe Systems
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:41:22 GMT

In article <Qf31tgu00WBLA6PrBe@andrew.cmu.edu>, Jennifer Yablonsky
<jy0t+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> 
> hey you dead heads
> 
> while you guys are driving around in your vw vans living poverty and
> selling tie dyes jerry's driving a round in a BMW 535 and bob's driving
> around in Porsche 911 turbo.
> chew on that for awhile hippies.
> 
> 
        Well, you're close.  Jerry drives a 750iL (black, of course)
        and has also been spotted in a white Mazda Miata.

        Hell, any self-respecting college student at some time
        (or high school, for that matter) should own and drive a VW
        (bug, bus, or Karmann Ghia).  It seems to me it's all part of
        the growing up process.

        Anyway, I don't begrudge the GD their money.  They spent 
        many years in the red.  They only hit it big starting in
        1987.

        --larry      (who owned a '71 Karmann Ghia in my college days...
                        a long time ago)
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