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From: edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: HDTV in Japan
Date: 28 Jan 93 03:37:53 GMT
Organization: RAND

In article <93Jan23.225545est.47602@neat.cs.toronto.edu> tlai@cs.toronto.edu (Tony W H Lai) writes:
>In article <1jsnf5$i4k@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
-> . . . .
->Well, probably a dejavu of Sony's Betamax war.  With demonic speed, they will
->learn to manufacture digital technology by stealing our technology through
->scholarly exchanges & industrial "consulting".  However, they will keep their
->domestic standard different from the rest of the world to keep out alien
->TVs and reinforce the notion that Japanese are a unique people.  At least,
->that's the projection based on extrapolation of past trends.

>Did you forget the smileys?
>
>You don't know anything about HDTV in Europe, do you?  Or the history of
>TV in Europe?

Or the history of TV in Japan, one of only a handful of countries that
uses the /same/ TV standard as the US?  Namely, NTSC, a US-developed
standard.  Sure, the channel frequencies differ, but that's a matter
of historical spectrum allocations and not some fiendish industrial
policy.

		-Ed Hall
		edhall@rand.org
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tlai@cs.toronto.edu (Tony W H Lai)
Subject: Re: HDTV in Japan
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:50:09 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.111855.14439@gibdo.engr.washington.edu> tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Tad Perry) writes:
>No global standardization is likely, but Japanese researchers at NTT
>are working full bore on a fully digital standard called Super High
>Definition (SHD) which will be incompatible with everything: the US's
>new digital HDTV, Japan's own analog HDTV, and good old NTSC.

Not to mention Clearvision, and, later, Clearvision 2.

>Consumers in Japan are not being told that HDTV is already scheduled
>for replacement with SDH because it could hurt HDTV sales (I got this
>out of a Nomura market analysis). In fact, despite what you hear,
>Nomura at least was fairly impressed with the technology being
>researched by the US but questioned our insistence on backward
>compatibility with NTSC. We shall see. Anyone taking bets that the
>Japanese adopt our standard in the end?

I think it's quite unlikely that Japan will adopt the future US ATV
standard.  First, all of the digital proposals in the US use DCT coding;
I suspect that the Japanese SHDTV system will use subband coding for
scalability.  Second, terrestrial broadcasters in Japan seem interested
in an EDTV system, so there isn't much incentive to provide a terrestrial
SHDTV system.
From: blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Akutagawa Ryuunosuke
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:03:42 GMT
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.

In article <1993Jan21.215737.27965@Csli.Stanford.EDU>, hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU
(Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:

=> BTW: what's the difference between a "prize" and an "award"?

Generally, a prize will include money or goods. An award will
be a symbol of achievment, such as a plaque, trophy or the like.
The Nobel Prizes include $$$$... to the tune of $100 - $200K,
I believe.

There are exceptions to this (of course! it's english), For
example, "The jury awarded damages of $326,000,000 to the
psychic who claimed her brain was erased by a CAT scan."

Or, "Mrs. Smith won the first prize Blue Ribbon 
for her recipe: 'Banana and Pig Liver Tart.'"

If you note these two above exceptions, in the first one
"awarded" is a verb, and there is no equivalent verb form of
"prize". "Prize" means "valued by" as a verb form.
In the second example, putting the number "first" in front
of the example makes using "award" somehow seem awkward
and unusual, although not incorrect. For some reason,
saying, "won first award" is not common usage. Saying
"Mrs. Smith won the top award..." is OK. 

You can "award a prize" and you can "prize an award".
The meaning of these two phrases is totally different.
Sometimes you might even see, "First Prize Award".

Clear as mud... ne?

- Bill
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner)
Subject: Re: If Perry hadn't sailed...
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
	<1k2h8qINN5ml@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> <1k49ut$ps7@agate.berkeley.edu>
	<WARKENT.93Jan27135314@ltisun14.epfl.ch>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:03:03 GMT

In article <WARKENT.93Jan27135314@ltisun14.epfl.ch> warkent@ltisun14.epfl.ch (Ken Warkentyne) writes:

   If Perry had never sailed for Japan, the HMS Roastbeef or
   la Grenouille Conquerante would have done more or less the same thing.
      ^^^^^^^^^^

Please, no multilingual ethnic slurs. ;-)

   On the other hand if Japan had somehow decided not to persue Asian
   expansion in the 1930's, would China have become Communist, would Japan
   have become such a great economic power, would Korea be united, etc?

I guess we'll just have to leave these questions to the writers of
Quantum Leap.

RB
-- 
|"The truth is cruel, but it can be loved, and it makes free those who  |
| have loved it." -- George Santayana  // Opinions expressed here, when |
| clear and persuasive, are my own. --Rob Brueckner (rhb@world.std.com) |

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From: shin@clover.ee.udel.edu (Jeong-Gyun Shin)
Subject: Re: Apologizing for WWII--yet again
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:52:08 GMT

In article <ricko.728040025@ee.uts.EDU.AU> ricko@ee.uts.edu.au (Rick Jelliffe) writes:
>On behalf of Japan, I apologize for the war.
>
>There, that's easily fixed; wasn't it? Now everything is fine.

Wlong way to go.  Properu Japanese ethics require the person to cleanse
himself and cerimoniously dip ten inch knife into his belly and then
make sure to traverse almost entire horizontal length of it.  Sooo, if 
and when I read it on tomorrow's paper, then, oh well, what can I say, 
I'll visit temple next opportunity and rest in peace, and burn incenses
in your honor, Misteru Lick Gelife.
From: aijuin@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Akira Ijuin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: RACISM (was Re: Speaking of Y. MIshima)
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:11:37 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>Mr. CRichmond writes:

>>>........................ But, there will a song and you will be the
>>>singer. And you'll sing ,  Lawd, Lawdy, Lawd, lawd! Plessse git mah
>>>Black ass out o' dis fire! I ma sorry Lawd! I ma sorry! Plessse git mah
>>>Black ass  o' dis fire! But,  it'll be too late! ....................

>>Am I the only one who finds this to be excessively offensive?  I am really
>>sorry that I have allowed myself to read this person's posts! I recently
>>recommended that we just ignore him and I think I will do just that
>>again, but the temptation to complain to CMU is VERY strong.

>>Oh well , back to kill files...

>Complain to CMU!!!!  I am justified in writing what I wrote because as
>you Americans say, " If you can't stand the heat get out of the
>kitchen"!  

Ok...I think I've just about had it with this BULLSHIT.  You are NOT JUSTIFIED
IN ANY WAY to write crap that I see above (refering to the little song 
composed by Rikko).

>(I wish I was a Chinese Chef saying this) Ya'  know James Brown made a
>record called the big payback. It was never my intention to embarass
>this individaul. The only reason why you feel offended is because it's
>coming from an "Oriental" instead of an American.  As I told this group
>before and

Ok....BULLSHIT #2.  Any person with a sane mind set would be offended, and
in my case, embarassed to think that Americans might see this as a general
attitude among Japanese.

>your bubby Crispin ascerted I research Black African slavery in America
>very extensively.

It appears like the research hasn't taken you very far.

>I would have hope that Mr. Morton and you would not
>have taken this in a  racist view. If I were racist believe you me. I

Hmm....am I the only one to get pissed off by this (do not take it in a
racist view my ass) or am I just over-reacting?

>would probably ignore all the Americans in this group.  But, day after
>day, I treat ya'll like my friends.

Yes.  You treat them like FIENDS.

>I even call you this. But, many of
>you don't want a Japanese friend who will absolutely disagree or as the
>Japanese say,  "No"!
 
I wouldn't want a Japanese friend like you either.

>I'am confident that I can stand my oun ground. Mr. Morton and you know
>that if either would have said some of the stuff that you said to me out
>on the street to some of the more dedicate people, you'd be dead.   I

1.  Good luck in standing your own grounds.
2.  Keep it up and YOU'D be DEAD.

>would believe. But, enough of this!

Yes.  Enough of this.  So PLEASE shut the fuck up.

Akira Ijuin
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner)
Subject: Re: Weapons are too easily available
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:38:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.061337.2031@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> diamond@jit.dec.com (Norman Diamond) writes:


[NEWS STORIES AND OTHER THINGS DELETED]

   My question:  Why are weapons so freely available in Japan?  It seems
   like anyone can get their hands on a sword.  If the government would
   put tighter restrictions on sword ownership, Mr. Toyoda would still be
   alive.

   The victim in this tragedy understood the language spoken by [name*].
   But just imagine, this could have been an exchange student or other
   innocent person who just wanted to come here to learn about Japan, maybe a
   language student or someone who might not understand [name*]'s complaints.

   I would like to see petitions circulated in other countries, requesting
   the Japanese government to implement sword control for the protection of
   its own society and the world community.


While you're at it, could you get them to circulate one in the U.S.
about gun control? Our problem here is *far* worse than Japan's. You
can run away from a sword. You can't from a bullet.

RB

-- 
|"The truth is cruel, but it can be loved, and it makes free those who  |
| have loved it." -- George Santayana  // Opinions expressed here, when |
| clear and persuasive, are my own. --Rob Brueckner (rhb@world.std.com) |
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: How about a new newsgroup here?
Date: 21 Jan 1993 08:10:31 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbang.berkeley.edu

In article <1jlglvINNg1q@shelley.u.washington.edu> yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii) writes:
>In article <1jlbsh$3rg@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
>>Mr. Asano is like an undefeatable kaijuu immolating the city of scj in a
>>sea of flames; anti-Rikiya elements, like inept Jieitai soldiers firing
>>puny little rockets that only anger Him more.  When resistance proves futile,
>>perhaps it is time to pray for His appeasement; ultimately, He will nod His
>>head and return to the sea.
>
>What?!  Is there no Ultraman?  Is there no hope?
>
This time, Linda Absher is Ultralady, telling us that the kaijuu is there for
the better of US.  Rodan here occasionally likes to send laser beams from the
sky to vaporize evil belief structures.








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From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: Is this offensive?
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 07:40:19 GMT

In article <RHB.93Jan22222015@world.std.com> rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner) writes:
>Well, you don't have to be Japanese-American to get thrown up against
>a locker in high school. Actually, all you have to be is smarter,
>shorter, weaker, or not a football player. So you're not being singled
>out, believe me, except that you are different.

That's "one hell of" a compassion.

>But let's compare
>treatment here, just for the hell of it, with that of anomalous people
>in Japan. Owada-san, the future empress, herself was victimized in
>this way, probably much more cruelly and relentlessly than any
>football player ever would have done it, merely because she had been
>abroad.

Again, why can you be so bold in making such statements
of things you don't understand or have little knowledge of?
I, being one of the earlier Kikoku-shijo (returnee), as well as my
brother and sister, my wife, and a number of friends in a similar situation,
will testify that such is not the case.
Of course, there do exist such cases, but that doesn't warrant making
such blanketed, ungrounded guesses.

(BTW: Kiko, the wife of the other prince, is also a returnee.)

-YH
From: jhewitt@bbn.com (Jim Hewitt)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Miyazawa's remarks
Date: 27 Jan 1993 20:28:54 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman (BBN)
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcink.bbn.com

Here is part of Miyazawa's 'infamous' remarks before the Diet budget committee
last year. 
(sorry, I've lost the name of the person who kindly
supplied the original text):

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My translation:

Isn't something apparently lacking today in America, looking at what America 
has come to over the last ten years or so, in terms of making [physical] 
things, in terms of creating value, haven't things become terribly loose; 
sweating from the brow, creating [physical] things, is the work ethic present, 
isn't the attitude toward working lacking; this is what I have been 
definitely thinking.  So, I think [the committee's] worrying should be about 
these matters, I think in a sense our nation's "bubble" has these sorts of 
elements. 
------------------------------------


Granted that as a gaijin I could be missing some nuances, this remark isn't 
that hard to understand.  "Loose" is from the wasei-eigo "ruuzu" which
might be closer to "sloppy".  My take on it was he was doing what Americans
do when they warn about the US getting the 'British disease'.  Talk like this 
isn't complimentary toward Americans (I bet the Brits don't like it either),
but it's tame compared to what you can
hear and read every day in Tokyo (I've lived in Tokyo 2.5 years).  For
example, a front-page editorial in the Asahi Shimbun this December said,
"...As we all know 30% of Americans can't read."  
 

As I recall Miyazawa was responding to a question from another Diet
member who said something about how American factories have much
higher defect rates on Mondays and Fridays.  In the press reporting that
followed it was wrongly reported that Miyazawa himself made the Monday-Friday
remark.   
 
-Jim/Tokyo
From: buex93b@rwa.urc.tue.nl (Hans van Gageldonk)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Info wanted on Japanese TV and clothing
Date: 28 Jan 93 10:28:10 GMT
Reply-To: buex93b@urc.tue.nl


Hello,

We, 24 students of the Eindhoven University of Technology in the
Netherlands (Europe), are going on a study tour to Japan next April. We
have two questions:

1.  As we are planning to take a video camcorder to Japan we wonder what
television system is used in Japan. Is it PAL or is it SECAM ?? In the
Netherlands we use PAL, so if in Japan SECAM is the system, we will not
be able to look at our video-tapes in Japan.

2.  We are going to visit several companies in Japan, for example
Hitachi, NEC, Matsushita, etc. What are the clothing habits at such
'official' visits? We understand that jeans are not the best to wear at
such visits, but what should the ladies wear? I would like to know what
clothes are acceptable and what clothes are certainly not.

Could anybody help me out with these questions?

Thanks in advance,

Hans van Gageldonk,
Japan Study Tour Committee '93.
E-mail: buex93b@urc.tue.nl

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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Cities and Suburbs
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:52:25 GMT

In article <BHeyXB2w165w@batpad.lgb.ca.us> larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield) writes:
>Just a thought here to get an interesting discussion going....
>It seems that in most parts of the country, the population shift 
>seems to be away from small towns and countryside to large cities. 
>It's different now in the U.S.  Before WWII, the U.S. was this way 
>(population moving into the cities), but from WWII onwards, the U.S. 
>population has been moving ever steadily from the cities into the 
>countrysides, creating large "suburbs".   For the first time ever, as 
>of the last census, more Americans now live OUTSIDE of major cities 
>than inside.
>   I was wondering what the trends in Japan now. From what I've seen, 
>it still looks like there's the trend to move from countryside->city, 
>but now with the the high cost of land in the city, and economic 
>problems, I wonder if that has stagnated, and I wonder when Japan wil 
>reverse course like America has...

Recently reported in the SF Chronicle: about 73%  of Japanese live in the
cities (not defined in the article.) I also remember reading that roughly 
80% of the Japanese population lives in the strip of land between Tokyo/Chiba
and ~Hiroshima (this includes Nagoya, Osaka, Kyoto, Kobe, Yokohama, Kawasaki,
etc). It's difficult to see how Japan could get much more urbanized.

FWIW, when I was working in Tokyo, I met a lot of people from (esp) the
Sapporo and Fukuoka areas. Most of them expressed keen desires to go back, if
they could find suitable jobs, even if it meant taking a "demotion". In a
5 month period, six of those people found the opportunity to move back.

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - These opinions are not so much opinions, as pearls of wisdom. Any-
one disagreeing is obviously either a) a snivelling, whining, mentally-
deficient, weak-willed, inconsequential, namby-pamby tool of some vague but
conveniently defined conspiracy, or b) my wife.
From: yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese name !!
Date: 22 Jan 1993 06:28:30 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

About masculine and feminine names.

>Almost, but not quite. I've run across a few Japanese men whose
>first name ends with -ko. Actually the corresponding kanji meaning
>is child though it often appears in compounds with the meaning
>(implication?) of tiny thing, particle, or piece. 
>
>Based on personal experience I would guess that about one out of every
>hundred -ko's is a man. 

Hmm ... really? I've never heard of modern masculine name with -ko
ending.  Can you name (^o^) an example?  There are, as Mr. Hiraga 
points out, -hiko (different kanji) which _is_ masculine.
Interestingly, I've heard somewhere that -ko used to be a masculine 
ending in ancient times.

I think numbered ending is masculine. For example -ichi (one),
-ji (two), -zou (three) are used exclusively for first, second, 
and third sons.  I don't know of any instance in which a feminine
name ends with these numbers.  I believe there are many others.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp (Daisaku Itasaka)
Subject: Re: Some Thoughts on s.c.j
Organization: NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd., Tokyo, Japan
Distribution: world 
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:15:28 GMT

In article <1jul2gINN2hn@shelley.u.washington.edu>
	kaygee@hardy.u.washington.edu (Kevin Giansante) writes:

>This very verrrrrrry not correct!!!  Bullshit!  God (In The Bible If You
>"Read") saids the holy word: FUCK "N" Key.  Before time of GOdazilla,
>JIm Morrison : When the music's over turn out the lights.  Now HIstory
>of Human man reveals Hitler was right!!!!  Say this, say that.  Don't
>say this, don't say that.  Hit this key, hit that kaey.  You right, I
>wrong.  You wrong, I right.  Fuuuuucccckkkkkk Motorola!!!  The worm of
>your "existence: has turned".  DO not say this just because you are
>ignerint fucker.  REad the Bible!!  Tired of your racist talk.

Are you alright?
You ate something rotten last night or what?

-- 
A wrong guy in a wrong place at wrong time...
						 Daisaku Itasaka
				      d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp
				NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd.
From: andym@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Help
Date: 26 Jan 93 08:21:10 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <4fN6tWm00iV1I80H1B@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Prakash S. Gulrajani" <pg27+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> Can anyone help me get contact with someone in Keio University?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
Try postmaster@keio.ac.jp

If your system has GOPHER available, you might try using it.  It has been 
very valuable to me in finding domains, etc., although I don't know how 
current it is.  Anyone know?

Regards,

Andy Mumma
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: miklg@acuson.com (Michael Goldman )
Subject: Re: Honda vs Ford
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:52:37 GMT

jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu) writes:

>Ford didn't exhibit any problems, even with one spark plug gone.  Toyota 
>could solve this problem easily by adjusting the warm idle rpm to 50 above
>spec or increasing richness, but either solution hurts fuel economy. 
>So in comparing a 92 Toyota pick-up (yeah, the 300,000 mile 22RE engine)
>with an 86 Ford 'Stang, at least, the Ford had Toyota beat in the
>sophistication of the fuel injection system.  

	Interesting but apples and oranges here.  Trucks are held to
	a different fuel economy standard than cars.  Also, Ford needs
	all the sophistication it can get to make a 5.0L car pollute
	as little as a smaller engine truck.

	When I worked at the EPA, it was clear that Ford was definitely
	the most technologically innovative.  They were also under
	court orders after paying a $1,000,000 fine for being lying
	bastards.  Japanese cars came in, passed the tests, and we never
	saw them till next year.  THe US makers eventually got an engine
	class to pass, and immediately started changing it, so that by
	the end of 3 months the only thing that was the same was the
	body, so we'd have to retest.

	If the US makers had spent as much time and energy on making
	clean cars, as they did on fighting the EPA, we'd all be a lot
	better off.

	- Michael Goldman

-- 
"History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have
exhausted all other alternatives." - Abba Eban
	Disclaimer:  All views are solely my own & not the views of Acuson.
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