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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: Bald-Headed Ditka in Superbowl Commercial
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:42:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.171905.24567@midway.uchicago.edu> bitn@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>Well, he thought Harbaugh was wrong too in that audible. So who's out of work
>>now?
>
>Apparently, you.  Otherwise, you wouldn't have such endless time to engage
>in meaningless flame wars.  
Wrong. Non-ATT employee couldn't have used AT&T accounts.

>And, in case you didn't notice, Harbaugh *was*
>just a tad bit wrong on his little audible call.
Yes, but Ditka is out of work.

>>Better make it "Worship Da Loser Now".
>Stick a polish sausage in it, ed.  I do not intend to worship you.
Thank god, I do not intend to be worshipped by someone who worships Ditka.
That's an insult. 

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Perfect Dolphins Trivia
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:36:38 GMT
 <JOHNDOE93Jan26.185306@samadams.inmet>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
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In article <JOHNDOE93Jan26.185306@samadams.inmet>
johndoe@samadams.inmet (johndoe) writes:

> between 1972 and 1980, miami, pittsburgh, and oakland won eight super
>    bowls among them.  not including games against each other, they were 20-3
>    in the playoffs combined during this span.  which teams did they lose to?
>    (hint:  until buffalo beat pittsburgh this year - and not counting the
>    super bowl tournament of 1982 -- one of these teams could say it was the
>    only team other than miami or oakland to beat the steelers in the playoffs)

Obviously one of them was the '77 Broncos who beat both Pittsburgh and
Oakland on the way to SB XII.  I believe Houston made to the second
round in '78 by beating Miami.

> now, somre more of my own additonal trivia:
> 
> A) who was the only team to beat the raiders in 1976?

Hah! Believe it or not...the New England Patriots by the score of 48-17
in NE!  BTW, the Pats went 11-3 in this year and lost to the Raiders in
a divisional playoff, 24-21.

> B) who was the only team to beat the 49ers in 1984 (the year they beat the
>    dolphins in the super bowl)?

Pittsburgh

> C) who was the only team to beat the bears in 1985?

Miami
> 
> D) bonus:  who was the only team to beat the redskins in strike-shortened 1982?

Though I saw a pattern developing here and almost answered the
Raiders.;-) But it was da 'Boyz.

Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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From: Mark.Perew@p201.f208.n103.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Ninth Annual All-Madden Team Announced
X-Sender: newtout 0.06 Jan  3 1993
Date: 26 Jan 93  15:31:10

In a message of <Jan 24 17:31>, Ralph Zuniga (FREAC/CAR (1:103/208) writes: 
 >Practically all of the names on his list are from the NFC! I only saw a 
 >couple of names from the AFC (mostly Houston). Sheeshhh....

You need to remember that CBS carries games in NFC stadiums.  NBC gets the AFC 
stadium games.

John Madden is more likely to pick NFC players because he sees more of them
play.

--- Mark Perew  Mark.Perew@ofa123.fidonet.org
--- Mark's Information Repository and Funtime Emporium (1:103/208.201)


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From: vish@nd.edu (Vishwamber Yelsangikar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: INFO ON SUPER BOWL TIME
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:18:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: vish.vish-260193121625
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: Uni of Notre Dame

What time is the Super Bowl Kickoff??  

Thanks...

Vishwamber Yelsangikar
Network Engineer.
Notre Dame.

Go Bills.......
From: gore@pepper.rutgers.edu (Bittu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NYG/Reeves NOT pass oriented coach??
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:07:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: pepper.Jan.26.17.07.10.1993.26214
Organization: Recreation Center, Busch Campus

In article <C1FIL1.FA1@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn) writes:

> Perhaps we Giants fans should give Mr. Reeves a chance...after all,
> he's gotta be better than Ray, right?  (actually...anybody heard

That's what I think. If Ray Handley was allowed to stay for two years,
I see no reason why a proven winner like Reeves should be denied his
chance. How bad could it be? As it is, the team is not very good so we
can't hope for much in 93.

> After getting over my initial mild disappointment ;-) with Mr. Young's
> recent negotiating (or lack of) for Coughlin and Wannstedt and after
> receiving the encouraging report from the guy from Denver, I'm glad to
> say that I'm feeling better about the idea of Reeves as NYG head coach.

I was disappointed too but I'm not sure how much of this is Young's
fault. However, I do hope that Young gives Reeves some power as far as
the draft/free agency is concerned. 

>  IMHO, he is an excellent coach with a marvelous record for
> credentials.  If he is indeed not the 'passing oriented coach' all we
> Giant fans think he is, he could bring some true excitement to the
> Giants offense next year.  Couple this with a simpler defensive scheme
> (read: Rod, pack yer bags) and some wise picks in the draft and free
> agent acquisitions, Dan could have the Giants back in contention
> quicker than we had hoped.  What has me worried is that George "I'm

That is a good point. However, looking at the list of players who are
going to be free agents, which players do you think would be good
acquisitions for the GIANTS? We also ought to lose some of the older
players currently on the team. Now that Parcells is in NE, I'm pretty
sure that he'll take some of *his* players there. Which are positions
where the GIANTS need help most? I say they need a couple of good
linemen so they can protect their QB's, at least one good receiver and
should use Bunch for pass catching a little more (like Rathman, Johnston
etc.). What is our tight end situation? Is Howard Cross good enough?
Derek Brown?

On defense we need to do *major* rebuilding? We can't stop anything.
The only good linebacker right now is Pepper (Banks is not healthy,
everyone else is new). I say LT is as good as gone. Hopefully we will
get rid of that "read, react and give up big plays" defense and get a
good defensive coordinator. Who can we pick up to fill the holes in
the secondary which is really bad, especially at CB? The defensive
front is also old, but I still feel that it is good and only needs
support from an *impact* linebacker.

I certainly don't want to see another 6-10 season but if they are
going to do a good job of rebuilding then I have no problems.

--Vivek
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From: Adriene_Nazaretian@qm.yale.edu (:-(  ALN)
Subject: Re: Who has influence on Bears (was <None>)
Organization: who cares
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:48:28 GMT

In article <C16M9M.4ot@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn) writes:
> 
> In article <1993Jan20.131839.4519@wvnvms.wvnet.edu>  
> un036337@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
> 
> > > At Chicago, they (I've read) were offering more money, more
> > > control over football decisions, <and they have a better track record of
> > > cooperating with their coaches.>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Brian...I'd like to know where you read this.  I'd say it's a toss up
> between New York and Chicago as to who cooperates (or doesn't
> cooperate) with there coaches. I also don't believe Wannstedt is going
> to have it that easy in Chicago as you seem to imply...I guess we'll
> just have to wait and see.  BTW, I apologize for some of the
> insinuations I made in some of my previous posts concerning this
> subject.  I don't really believe that Wannstedt made his solely on the
> premise that JJ didn't want him in New York. I'm just a little upset
> over the whole thing and some of the comments Johnson made regarding
> the issue pissed me off even more.  Like I also said in one of the
> posts, the only person to blame (if there's any blame at all) lies with
> George Young (and the Mara's).  Now they seem to be talking seriously
> to Dan Reeves, who though a great coach for the right team, is not the
> right coach for the Giants.  Like I said before...time to start up the
> "George Must Go" campaign...any Giants fans interested in starting a
> petition? ;-)
> 
> Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Count me in.  Other than that, I'm too depressed to even 
talk about this.

ALN [  :-(     I've fallen, and I cant get up :-(       ]
From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:04:15 GMT
Subject: Re: Beurlein
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

>He did not do so well
>on a so-so team.

Not true --> for awhile he had a QB rating in the 90s.  Steve out-played
Jay yet Jay was handed the starting job.  In fact, Steve played so well
that his agent made the mistake of having Steve hold out for a better 
contract.  The result - Steve went in Davis' dog house and did not start
another game for the Raiders.  Steve was dumped after that season.

Steve is a good ex-Notre Dame QB - he would do well in a number of cities
that could use a good, young QB.
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Parcells at N.E.
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:40:45 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <C19voI.BKI@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu
 (Michael P. Colburn) writes:
>
>Does anyone know have far reaching Bill's powers are?  Is he also GM,
>or just head coach?
>
>Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Dartmouth-Hitchcock                  "Pulu-see-ba-goomba" -- Gilligan 
>Medical Center                       =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Lebanon, New Hampshire  03756        :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)

This is apparently some sort of secret.  He does have a say in draft
choices and player personnel management but he hasn't been appointed
the GM per se. 

Attaboy George... now you're REALLY showing him who's king.  What does
Parcells have now?  Oh just a multimillion dollar contract and control
over personnel.  You showed him didn't ya buddy!

satish nair
giants


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From: gil@dipl.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com(Baldemar Gil)
Subject: Re: Trivia :Fearsome Foursome
Reply-To: gil@dipl.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 22:54:11 GMT

In article 30201@oasys.dt.navy.mil, kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat) writes:
>
>Decon Jones, Merlin Olsen, Rosie Grier, and ____________.
                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                             Lamar Lundy

FYI, the original Dallas Doomsday Defense was:
Willie Townes, Bob Lilly, Jethro Pugh, and George Andre.

>Who was the fourth?
>
>   O
>   I\   Brian Kiviat (301)227-1833
>   I \  kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil
>  /     David Taylor Model Basin
>   \___________________________
>			     \\
>
>
>




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From: yslas@rivera.advtech.uswest.com ( Rob Yslas)
Subject: Re: Wade Phillips Top Bronco
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:01:38 GMT

In article <C1FKpr.Mqv@news.rich.bnr.ca>, reams@crchh462.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Cary Reams) writes:
> Heard Wade Phillips got the job as Bronco Head Coach.
> 
Defensive Coordinator for four years.

> How long has he been with Denver ?  (Any chance Buddy
> Ryan could takeover the Defensive job he leaves open?)
> 
Charlie Waters the current DB coach will be offered the defensive coordinators
job.  I don't think Ryan would fit well with Denver anyway.

-- 
yslas@advtech.uswest.com
Thanks
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From: chm8v@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (chris mann)
Subject: Re: SB predictions--Dallas by double digits
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:08:32 GMT

un036337@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:

> 	RB-Buffalo has mroe depth, but Emmitt Smith is as good as any back you
> can name.  I still believe that Barry Sanders is a better back, but hampered by
> OL troubles, but Emmitt is easily #2, and has a MUCH better team view of
> himself than does Thomas.  Thomas and Davis are as deadly a duo as you could
> ask for, but only one can play at a time, so the depth advantage will only
> factor in if somone is hurt, or dead tired.  The big Dallas advantage comes
> from FB Daryl Johnston.  Mueller for Buffalo is good, but doesn't compare to
                           ^^^^^^^
uummm....i'm afraid he was cut from the team due to injuries...
carwell gardner has been their fullback for most of the season
if not all of it....and from what i've seen he can knock over lots 
of people and can usually find a way into the endzone on those goal
line stands

> Johnston.  He turns it from slight edge Dallas to Edge Dallas.

i think that with carwell gardner you might want to change your opinion.


chris
From: krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bills Polka
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:15:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpuerca.C1HqAD.8oy
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
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For the Dallas fans it's pronounced Cheep-a Ta Waga (bow your heads)


BILLS WINNNNNNNNNN



Bills  51 Dallas 27

Thermal 156 yds>
Kelly 41 of 50

Smith 2 sacks
Bennet 1 sack
Talley 1 int for 7


Dallas a measley 220 yds 
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From: pboxrud@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul D Boxrud)
Subject: Johnny Holland
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:20:50 GMT

Is Johnny Holland a free agent this year and if so does it look like he'll stay
in GB?

I have bad memories of how bad the defense was without him.

Paul
From: richter@cs.utexas.edu (Charles Richter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Reeves and the Giants
Date: 27 Jan 1993 11:10:55 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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Keywords: good luck

I'm not a Giants fan (I'm one of those evil 49er fans), but I have a
lot of respect for the Giants' organization and for Dan Reeves.  I
hope Dan does well in New York, and I hope the Giants are once again
contenders in the NFC East.

(Let the game begin!)

-- 
Charlie Richter   Objective System Solutions   Austin, Texas
                  richter@cs.utexas.edu
"The panic ... was not due to anything fundamentally weak in either business
   or finance.  It was confined to the market itself."   - WSJ, Oct. 31, 1929
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From: jscott@micom.com (James Scott)
Subject: Re: One fan's opinion on the big one
Organization: yo-yo dyne propulsion 
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:16:33 GMT

|||> How will Dallas' defense react to the no-huddle? We don't know.

||> I tend to think of the no-huddle as an offense in thrid-and-long all the
||> time.  Dallas has the top defense in passing situations.

|> I think this is important for Buffalo.  Dallas relies very heavily on
|> situation substitutions.  Getting the interval between plays down to 10-15
|> seconds will make it virtually impossible for Dallas substitute defensively.
|> That great third-down defense won't be on the field then.  I would expect
|> this kind of offense to confuse and fatigue the Dallas defenders.

i heard JJ comment on this very subject.  he pointed out that dallas does
NOT *situation substitution*, rather, they substitute based on the personnel
the opponent has on the field.  obviously, the bills won't be changing
personnel while in the no-huddle, so the substitution issue is really
a non-issue.  it should also be pointed out that the cowboy's nickel
package is *arguably* the best in the league.

james
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Gaints close to signing Reeves.
Date: 24 Jan 93 15:45:32 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <23JAN199321413825@cc.utah.edu> djs1539@cc.utah.edu (SEGAL, 
DAVID JAY) writes:
>
>
>Hey, the Giants need all the help they can get.
>IMHO, I think it's a step down for Reeves.
>
>- Dave Segal

A pass oriented coach for a team that has all but buried the forward pass
and is starting 2 rookie quarterbacks?  I don't think so!

satish nair
giants (dan must go!)
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Parcells goes to NE
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:18:25 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1993Jan22.175542.17806@athena.mit.edu> centry@athena.mit.edu (Jae H Nam) writes:
>And there was much rejoicing.  (Yawn.)
>By the way,
>1) Did the Giants sign Dan Reeves yet?

Not yet.  They are still working out minor points in the contract but
Reeves has been offered the job... damn!

>2) Why doesn't someone hire Buddy Ryan as a defensive
>coordinator?  Afterall, he built the '85 Bears' D and
>the '90 Eagles' D. Of course, the head coach better
>realize that he should just stick with the offense,
>and let Buddy control the defense....

Because Buddy steps on people to get what Buddy wants.  Most
everyone who knows Buddy or knows of Buddy is aware of this.
Is he a great talent evaluator?  You bet!  Would I want him
as a Giants defensive coordinator?  Probably!  Will he get it?
Not unless Giants management want to deal with someone who'd 
make the "Bill Parcells situation" seem like a cake walk!

satish nair
giants
From: cm0d@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHRISTOPHER M. MILLER)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Go Bills
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:29:38 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1993Jan20.221350.5585@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>, adair@aio.jsc.nasa.gov (Jer
ry Adair) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.123107.4517@wvnvms.wvnet.edu> un036337@wvnvms.wvnet.edu w
rites:
>>In article <1993Jan20.115703.116430@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, cm0d@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu
 (CHRISTOPHER M. MILLER) writes:
>>> Eagles fans - No true Eagles fan could ever root for the Cowboys.  We have
>>> been conditioned by years of hatred.   Go Bills.
>>>
>>> CMM
>>>
>>> [...]
>>
>>      I would think a smart Eagles fan would very much want the Cowboys to
>>win.  Think about it, if the Cowboys win, they get the worst pick in the draft
,
>>theoretically, the hardest schedule, and the traditional post-SB jinxes of
>>injuries, teams playing up against them, and let downs.  Also, it looks good
>>for your division, making you look better.  I'm a devout Redskins fan, and I
>>will very much be rooting for the Cowboys.  Also, I'd like to see the NFC's
>>streak live on, no matter who does the deed.
>>      Brian Mulholland
>>      --Skins fan
>
>Oh so true.  I am a die-hard-but-never-say-die Cowboy fan, and I rooted
>for the Redskins last year.  I wanted to see the NFC continue its
>dominance and it did.  They did a heck of a job!  Here's hoping that
>this year's game is a yawner by the third quarter, with Dallas
>comfortably ahead...:):):)
>
>From Houston, surrounded by disgruntled Oiler fans and TV sports anchors
>calling for apologies from Bud Adams...(Wishing I was in DALLAS!)
>
>--
>--
>From the Space City...
>Jerry R. Adair                 adair@aio.jsc.nasa.gov
>2101 NASA Road 1               "The mind is a terrible thing."
>

You both miss the point.  No true Eagles fan could ever root for the Cowboys.
It goes back to Buddy probably.  I rooted for the Giants and the Foreskins in
the past two super bowls, and I don't like them much.  So as you see, the
reason for hating the cowgirls cannot be compensated for by some desire to see
the NFC east continue their streak (although it would be great if the girls
won this year and the Eagles next over Buffalo;  thus completing the NFC east
sweep of the Buffalo Bills).

Besides, the schedule is already set for next year.  The Eagles play the
Bills and 49ers on the road while somehow Dallas managed to get a much
easier route.  As for draft picks - well I'm not too concerned about
Dallas' first round pick.  They're already so chock full of young talent
that I can't worry too much about what they add.  They'll be a great
team for a long time with or without not getting the last pick in the draft.

Go Bills !!!!

CMM
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Subject: Re: Wanted/Predictions
From: desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...)
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:40:25 MST
 <1993Jan27.202107.52317@slate.mines.colorado.edu> <C1JA8p.MAK@boi.hp.com>
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