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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:51:52 CDT
From:         Judy <SZ5@NIHCU.BITNET>
Subject:      Modem trouble?

Please reply to the author, not PACS-L.

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Many thanks to all of you who responded to my query about my
modem dropping from 2400 to 1200.  Most suggested either line noise
or that I was connected to a 1200 modem at the other end.  I guess
I blamed my modem because the Hayes government 2400 I used for about
2 1/2 years never did that.  Any guesses about that?

Confusesd (A.K.A. Judy Schneider)
US GAO Library
sz5@nihcu.bitnet
sz5@cu.nih.gov
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 09:34:08 CDT
From:         SRKIRBY@UGA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Gateway rumors
              13 Apr 1992 15:04:22 CDT from <MJENSEN@CHARLIE.USD.EDU>

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I hate to add to speculation, but I wonder if the person who suggested
that Gateway might be in some financial trouble has confused them with
Northgate.  There is/was an article in the March issue of the _Computer
Shopper_ that indicated Northgate has had some financial problems of
late (but NOT, and I repeat NOT, that Northgate is in any immediate
danger of going out of business).  Might could be that s/he just got
a little confused.


Steven Kirby
University of Georgia
SRKIRBY@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 11:30:57 CDT
From:         Kristen Lofquist <USERW62X@UMICHUM.BITNET>
Subject:      Merit Networking Seminar

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***REMINDER: NATIONAL NETWORKING SEMINAR COMING UP***

The Merit Networking Seminars:
Making Your NSFNET Connection Count
------------------------------------------------------

Merit/NSFNET Information Services will sponsor a one-and-a-half
day seminar at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, in Las Vegas,
Nevada on June 1-2, 1992, and will be hosted by NevadaNet. "Making
Your NSFNET Connection Count" will be an informative seminar
focusing on Internet tools, resources, and applications. Campus
computing leaders, information systems and networking administrators,
educational liaisons, librarians, and educators who want to learn
more about national networking are encouraged to attend.

The registration fee is $295 until May 15. After May 15 the fee is
$345. This fee includes the seminar, receptions on Sunday and Monday
evenings, lunch on Monday and Tuesday, the demonstration room, and
all seminar materials.

For further information and a complete agenda, send an electronic
message to seminar@merit.edu or telephone 1-800-66-MERIT or
(313)936-3000.
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 09:27:17 CDT
From:         "Czeslaw Jan Grycz,
              UC Office of the President" <cjg@stubbs.ucop.edu>
Subject:      Re: Network License Agreements

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>To (mis)quote G.B. Shaw, "We've already determined what you are.
>Now we're haggling over the price."


Your observations were on target, Lee, and I found myself nodding in
agreement until this quotation, which I'd heard variously attributed to
Groucho Marx and the guy of "my little chickadee" fame, (who's name I can't
just now recall.)  Was it really G.B.Shaw, all the time?

Chet
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 09:47:21 CDT
From:         Public-Access Computer Systems Forum <LIBPACS@UHUPVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Hypermedia in School Libraries

3 Messages, 25 Lines
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From: v740402b@unccptv.linknet.COM (Diane D. Kester)
Subject:      hypermedia in school ...
In North Carolina, the use of Macs has been limited to a select
few who have gone after special grants and funding.  IBM has
installed some labs with LinkWay; again, with grant and special
funding.  The past two years have been lean ones.  We are state
funded for education - most equipment budgets were slashed and some
were even eliminated, pending better times....

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From:         Jackie Mancall <MANCALJC@DUVM>
Subject:      Re: hypermedia in school libraries
Contact Apple headquarters in Chicago.  They have sponsored some very successfu
l projects dealing with your question.
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From: VANDERGRIFT@ZODIAC.BITNET
Subject: Re: hypermedia in school libraries
You will find that Sandy Champion at Hiliah HS in Hollywood, FL
is doing some exciting things with hypermedia and reader response
theories. You may want to send this query on Prodigy since more
school media specialists access that service.
Kay E. Vandergrift@Zodiac.Rutgers.edu
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 09:32:49 CDT
From:         Stevan Harnad <harnad@Princeton.EDU>
Subject:      The problem of multiple postings

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> From: Bill Drew -- Serials Librarian <DREWWE%SNYMORVA.bitnet@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
>
> Is there any reason why the discussion of referreeing of ejournal must
> be carried out on four different lists?  Why does it need to be on
> PACS-L as well as the lists specializing in ejournals?  How many
> people are truly unique to just one of the four?  I subscribe to all
> four because the material interests me not because I want to see the
> same item four times.  Please consider this comment.

The problem of what to do about multiple lists with overlapping but
non-identical subscriberships and subject matter is simply not solved,
and I would be interested in a solution too. Here are the factors
involved:

If one has information on a topic that is of interest to several lists,
one can either post only to one of the lists, so as not to risk sending
multiple postings to the same individual -- but then that is at the
expense of NOT reaching the non-overlapping portions of the lists -- or
one can post to them all, and then risk drawing complaints from those
who received the message more than once.

At the moment, there is no ideal solution. Not all topics are matched
exactly to one and only one list. Deleting multiple versions of a
message only costs a recipient the same number of keystrokes as messages
(and rarely does a topic ovelap more than a half dozen lists). One can
already create customized mail filters that automatically detect and
discard multiple versions of the same message in one's incoming mail --
just as the listservers themselves have such filters to block multiple
versions of the same message posted to the same list. When these mail
filters are in general use, this problem will vanish (except for the
extra traffic created by sending the multiple messages -- although even
this could in principle be handled by intelligent centralized
routers).

My own provisional policy is to favor reaching the nonoverlapping
constituency at the expense of the few extra keystrokes for the
overlapping segment, yet I don't wish to be antisocial. People who very
much MIND having to perform the extra keystrokes tend to be more vocal
than those who don't, so one tends to hear only from them. What weight
should be given to their (legitimate) complaint? It seems to me that
this depends on numbers: How many object, relative to those who do not?
What is the relative size of the overlapping and non-overlapping
portions of the lists? How relevant and important is the particular
topic to each of the lists? How frequently does this happen?

Obviously polls cannot be taken on each and every occasion, as these
would cause more keystrokes than they cured. But the problem is
certainly worthy of discussion.

Stevan Harnad
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 11:28:26 CDT
From:         Public-Access Computer Systems Forum <LIBPACS@UHUPVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Omnet

2 Messages, 70 Lines
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Subject: OMNET
From:    ELOISE@MAINE (Eloise Kleban)

Below is some information on OMNET which I have collected.
OMNET is a commercial network for oceanographers.  It has
some kind of bulletin board, I believe, as well as electronic
mail facilities.  The material below deals with how to send
mail from the Internet to OMNET.  For more information on
OMNET, get in touch with the contact person.
   Eloise Kleban    eloise@maine.maine.edu
************************
>
> OMNET is accessible through the TELEMAIL channel of
>the Commercial Mail Relay:
>
>        "[omnet-username/OMNET]MAIL/USA%TELEMAIL"@Intermail.ISI.EDU
>
>(TELEMAIL is the old name for SprintMail.  It is now their X.400
>administrative domain name.) and is also accessible through Sprint's relay,
>Sprint.COM.
>
>OMNET is also a registered Internet domain.  You can send to the contact
>listed for yet more ways to reach OMNET:
>
>Omnet, Inc. (OMNET-DOM)
>   Boston, MA 02124
>
>   Domain Name: OMNET.COM
>
>   Administrative Contact:
>      Curado, Dave  (DC415)  service@omnet.omnet.com
>      (617) 265-9230
>   Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
>      Pereymer, Edward  (EP85)  E.PEREYMER/OMNET@OMNET.NASA.GOV
>      (617) 265-9230
>
>   Record last updated on 07-Feb-91.
>
>   Domain servers in listed order:
>
>   SERVICE1.OMNET.COM          128.128.16.171
>   AQUA.WHOI.EDU               128.128.16.1
>
>   For Information on this Domain - send mail to SERVICE@OMNET.OMNET.COM
>
> *******************
> Recent postings regarding Internet ---> Omnet suggest that folks may
> not be aware that mail can be sent to J.User@omnet.nasa.gov -- at least I ran
> a test today and my message went through fine.  It appears that Omnet may be
> case sensitive.
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From: STODDAM@VUCTRVAX
Subject: Re: Do you know OMNET?
According to John Quartermain's The_Matrix, Digital Press, 1990,
page 611-12:

"OMNET is a commercial conferencing system with extensive mail
service and mailing lists that is primarily accessed by X.25 and
that has a world-wide international scientific and engineering
clientele."  Also known as SCIENCENet.  Selected conferences: AIR,
POLAR, LIFE.  Internet gateway exists -- get fax from book for
complicated directions.

Phone #: 1-617-265-9230 (Boston)

MJ Stoddard / stoddam@vuctrvax
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:54:01 CDT
From:         TURNER@UMDC.BITNET
Subject:      Dana Noonan's Guide

Please reply to the author, not PACS-L.  Thanks, Jill

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Alan Johns suggested that Dana Noonan's Guide to Internet/
Bitnet was better than Hitchhikers. He said that it was
available on Metronet. Has anyone instructions on how to
get to Metronet?

    --Judith Axler Turner
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:30:54 CDT
From:         LBA002@prime-a.tees-poly.ac.uk
Subject:      Chemical Abstracts

Please reply directly to the author, not PACS-L.  Thank you

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Apologies for posting this to the entire PACS-L audience, but I have
had no success emailing it to John Piety at the address given in his
original message. (If anyone else has information on this topic please
don't let this stop you replying <g>)

John,

I saw your message on PACS-L about Chemical Abstracts. I am considering
cancelling the printed set as being too expensive but if I do I will
lose my academic discount on STN. You mentioned that your Chemistry
Department subscribe to STN "at their special pricing." Do you have
any more info about this as it looks like a neat way of continuing to
use STN at a bargain price.

Regards,

Iain Noble
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 10:59:32 CDT
From:         PATTON@ZODIAC.BITNET
Subject:      hypermedia in school libraries

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I am interested in what school media specialists have done with hypermedia re:li
   terature both the teaching of and promotion of.
Z
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 11:28:57 CDT
From:         Public-Access Computer Systems Forum <LIBPACS@UHUPVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Library Automation--Comments & Questions

2 Messages, 34 Lines
1) Downloading MARC Formats
2) CD-ROM LAN Statistics
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From: HANNIGAN@ZODIAC.BITNET
Subject: Re: Library Automation Questions

This may be of some help--check with Chris Borgman or Jason Rosenberg
who did report on this in Information Technology & Libraries. Vol. 10
Dec. 1991:292-297. It outlines a process for downloading MARC format
bibliographies into form readable for MAC running Hypercard software.
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From: CDOMS@UMKCVAX1.BITNET

Does anyone know of usage statistical software available for CD-ROM
products on LAN?  From a previous PACS-L message I was able to
obtain GUS (Guardian Utlization Statistics) information, which is
comming out for LAN format.  Another statistics package was meationed
called SABER METER, but without an address, e-mail or phone number
for me to make inquiries of their product.

If anyone knows of other software packages for LAN, SS

Addresses or contacts to these companies would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks

Carol Doms
University of Missouri-Kansas City
Miller-Nichols Library
Cdoms@vax1.umkc.edu.
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 10:45:24 CDT
From:         Stephen Perry <STEPHPER@UAFSYSB.BITNET>
Subject:      FirstSearch Materials Available

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

Our  Library (the University of Arkansas, Fayetteville) was heavily
 involved in OCLC's Turn it On/Take a Look trial program for FirstSearch.
 As the FirstSearch Coordinator, I was responsible for compiling a
 variety of materials, including a barrage of publicity announcements,
 composing memoranda detailing how the Library would handle administra-
 tive matters, devising an evaluation form, and closely examining
 all evaluation forms returned in order to monitor FirstSearch as an
 end user product and also to resolve any problems in accessing the
 system.

 A detailed synopsis and analysis of the evaluations received are also
 available in the final report which summarizes our experience with First
 Search and gives recommendations to OCLC for making the product more
 facile to end-users.

 If you are interested in receiving a copy of all of these materials
 (including the final report) on a 3.5 H-D Diskette (WordPerfect
  5.1), please contact Stephen Perry, University of Arkansas,
  University Libraries, Fayetteville, Arkansas 72701-1201, or if
  you wish, you may contact me through my E-Mail address:
  Stephper@UAFSYSB.BITNET.   Thank You.

_________________________
  STEPHEN PERRY
  ASSOCIATE REFERENCE LIBRARIAN
  UNIVERSITY LIBRARIES, UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS
  FAYETTEVILLE, AR 72701        BITNET:  STEPHPER@UAFSYSB.BITNET
                              INTERNET:  STEPHPER@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:01:30 CDT
From:         Public-Access Computer Systems Forum <LIBPACS@UHUPVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Electronic Novels

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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU>
Subject:      Re: Novel in electronic form only?

>Dan Lester writes:
>
>"BOOKS:  Cyberpunk writer William Gibson's next book, _Agrippa  (A Book of
>the Dead)_, will be available only on computer disk -- with a virus that
>
>_Entertainment Weekly_, no. 112, April 3, 1992, p. 10.
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Hmm.....it is ONLY A RUMOR , but this info is widely held to be an April Fool's
>Joke.  Did EW give a source of information?

They did NOT give a source.  I quoted the whole thing.  However, since I
received that issue on the Monday BEFORE April 1, and since they had the
info probably a week before that, the timing of its appearance on several
lists on April 1 MAY be coincidental.

Discussion on a couple of other lists has suggested that this is part of
an "art" or "performance art" package of some sort and that it will
actually part of a larger package that will be promoted along with
sculpture, paintings, or whatever, in a limited edition to wealthy
patrons of the arts.  If so, I wonder how long it will be until
the first one is donated to some library.  These same discussions suggest
that as well as being impossible to print, it will self-destruct after
the first reading/viewing.  Guess you would have to get out your
videocamera and record it on your VCR?   8-)

My actual interest in posting it was less in the literal truth or falsehood
of the story and more in two other topics:  1) the continuing spread of
interest in topics we are interested in to the mass media, and 2) the
interesting idea of this being a form of "copy protection" that we may
have to deal with someday.

* Dan Lester                          Bitnet:   alileste@idbsu              *
* Associate University Librarian      Internet: alileste@idbsu.idbsu.edu    *
* Boise State University                                                    *
* Boise, Idaho  83725                 BSU and I have a deal: I don't speak  *
* 208-385-1234                        for them and they don't speak for me. *
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From: "CAROL H. JEWELL" <CHJ65@ALBNYVMS.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Novel in electronic form only?

I hope it _is_ an April Fool's joke. Otherwise it makes it impossible for
people in rural areas without adequate library resources to read.
*-----

From: Sue Martin <SKMARTIN@GUVAX.BITNET>
Subject: Electronic novels

The situation described by Dan Lester (virus and all) may be an April
Fool's joke, but there are science fiction writers who are initerested
in publishing in electronic form, and specifically in Hypertext.
David Brin is one of these, and Michael Crichton is another.  Brin was
talking about it four years ago, but I don't know whether he's done
anything toward it yet.

Sue Martin
Georgetown University
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Subject:      PACS-L or Attack-L?

From: zanec@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU (Zane Clark)
Subject: Re: PACS-L or Attack-L?

     Thanks to Steve Cisler for his comments on this pac/attack
thread. I agree with him completely.  There is too great a tendency to
read into a posting all kinds of messaages that were never there.  And
even if there are negatives, this IS a discussion list isn't it?  What
kind of discussion can you have without a little heat at times?  If
you want to see real heat, join a religion list!

Zane Clark
zanec@zimmer.csufresno.edu
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 08:05:46 CDT
From:         Heyward Ehrlich <ehrlich@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
Subject:      MICHAEL HART: Apr 28 NEACH

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

                       An Invitation from NEACH:
          Northeast Association For Computers and the Humanities
                (Please forgive any multiple postings.)

    The Northeast Association for Computers and the Humanities invites
you to Room 25A of the IBM Building, 590 Madison Avenue at 57th Street
in New York City on Tuesday,  APRIL 28, 1992, at 1:30 p.m. to hear Prof.
MICHAEL HART discuss the GUTENBERG ELECTRONIC TEXT PROJECT to collect
and distribute a large number of literary and humanistic texts in
electronic form.  (This meeting was previously scheduled for May 12 and
then for May 5.)

     The announced goal of the Gutenberg project is "to create and
distribute ten thousand etexts, to a predicted audience of one hundred
million computer users by the end of the year 2001."   Prof. Hart will
discuss and illustrate issues of text selection, copyright, public
domain status, typeface representation in electronic text, text
markup, distribution and duplication, downloading, and providing user
support.  Michael S. Hart is Professor of Electronic Text and
Executive Director of Project Gutenberg Etext at Illinois Benedictine
College in Lisle, Illinois.  Don't miss this unusual presentation,
which will be the final NEACH meeting for 1991-1992.

    NEACH Program Calendar for 1991-1992:

Wed. Oct. 9    Humanist & Women Writers Proj.  Elaine Brennan, Humanist
Tues. Nov 12   The Writer's PC: New Horizons   Judith Glassman, ex-Wolff
Wed. Dec. 11   Center for Electronic Texts     Susan Hockey, CETH
Tues. Jan. 21  Global Network Resources        Mary Sproule, Princeton
Wed. Feb. 12   Managing Textual Variants       F. W. Wilson, Morgan Library
Tues. Mar. 10  Poetry & Natural Lang. Proc.    Mary Dee Harris, Language Tech.
Wed., Apr. 15  Nota Bene 4.0 and Signature     Steve Siebert, Christine Rivera
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Tues., Apr. 28   GUTENBERG E-TEXT PROJECT      MICHAEL HART, Exec. Dir.
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    All NEACH meetings are free and open to the public.  Ask at the
desk when you enter the IBM Building for a pass to NEACH or
HUMANITIES.  NEACH disks are available only at meetings.
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