HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Shaqeeqa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: ARAFAT IS A GIRL
Date: 24 Jan 93 08:21:20 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <1993Jan23.031041.10947@wam.umd.edu> wnbc@next01pg2.wam.umd.edu (Joseph Samuel Kaufman) writes:
>It is true.  Arafat was a girl.  What happened was, they chopped one of  
>his big toes off and sewed it on his private area to make him look male.   
>The only problem is now he pees out his foot.


Tell me Joseph ... just how is it that confirmed this?

And did he take male hormone shots to grow that beard?

Anisa
From: EXTDSM@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU (MADDISON,David)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Kosher McDonalds in Jerusalem
Date: 28 Jan 93 06:36:14 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Does anybody know the current status of the Jerusalem Kosher McDonalds?  Also,
is this the only Kosher McDonalds?


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: ydr@leland.Stanford.EDU (Yigal Dan Rubinstein)
Subject: Sabra and Shattila - hasbara
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 22:19:08 GMT

Can someone please provide a reference source that would substantiate
the fact that Israeli soldiers did not commit the massacres at Sabra
and Shattila.  Our campus paper has published
an article in which the following appeared: "...when she learned
of the massacres by Israeli soldiers in the refugee camps
of Sabra and Shatila...", and there are a couple of us writing a
letter to the editor to set the record straight.

Please reply directly by email and not after Wed. Jan. 27 12 pm PST.

Thanks in advance, Dan.

ruby@playfair.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.canada,can.politics
From: krovetz@sydney.cs.umass.edu (Bob Krovetz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: from presumption to reality (was Re: Has Chabad gone crazy?)
Date: 21 Jan 93 06:10:01 GMT
Reply-To: krovetz@cs.umass.edu (Bob Krovetz)
Followup-To: soc.culture.jewish
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

If every generation has someone who is the potential mossiach, what 
determines whether the potential is realized?  To paraphrase the
haggadah, why is this generation different from all other generations?

Bob

krovetz@cs.umass.edu
From: 2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA (Andy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: ANTISEMITE - Is there a better word?
Date: 22 Jan 93 07:26:02 GMT
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston

In article <1993Jan22.034419.17430@lugb.latrobe.edu.au>,
EXTDSM@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU (MADDISON,David) says:
>
>Do people think that the word "antisemite" properly conveys its intended use
>to
>mean a person against Jews and Judaism? Technically, semites are members of a
>group which share the semitic languages and include Jews, Arabs, Assyrians
>etc,
>all of whom are descendants of Shem. How about Judeophobe?

Jew-hater gets the point accross.
BY the way, one of Toronto's local neo-nazi groups used to get together
at Druxy's Deli after meetings, apparently not realising the irony
of Nazis getting together in a Jewish Deli talking among themselves
about the Jewish conspiracy over Lox and Cream Cheese.

These guys are stupid, stupid, stupid!
>
>David Maddison
>Melbourne, AUSTRALIA
From: deganit@duke.cs.duke.edu (Deganit Armon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Kashering appliances
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:27:50 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

Thanks to all who responded to my question about placement of mezuzot.

I have another question related to moving into a used home:  Is it
possible to kasher built-in appliances?  
Specifically - dishwasher, oven and microwave.

Background on observance level: we have separate dishes, buy kosher meat
from kosher butcher only, but are a bit lax on the dairy and parve side,
i.e. will drink grocery store milk, eat cheese with dubious hechsher and
rely on ingredient lists for items that are clearly parve, e.g. frozen
vegetables.   

One more kitchen question:  when we took the plunge and separated our
dishes, we didn't have the heart to give away our old stoneware, and
it's been sitting unused in its box.  Is there anyway to reintroduce
these dishes to our kitchen?  

Thanks.
From: hlevene@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Howard Levene)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Internships in Israel
Keywords: Get a Job!  Sha Na Na Na!
Date: 27 Jan 93 07:38:35 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1993Jan26.172030.1@pearl.tufts.edu> rjablonk@pearl.tufts.edu writes:
>My brother is interested in interships in Engineering in Israel.  He will be
>graduating with a degree in Mechanical Engineering from Tufts U.  If anyone
>has information about 6 month to year internships in engineering, please send
>me information.  I think he has an account with the same address as mine except
>that the name is EJABLONK, otherwise send it to me and I'll give it to him.
>Well, thanks in advance.
>					Ra  :)

I'm graduating with a Mechanical Engineering Degree from Penn, (Not Penn State!
:) ) so please send me information, too!

Thanks!


--
 Howard B. Levene              |    "I'll call you the next time I pass
   You'd think I'd use someone |         through your star system."
      else's opinions?         |          -- Commander Wil Riker, ST:TNG
 hlevene@eniac.seas.upenn.edu  |  Data is a Mechanical Engineer, too.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: nadel@attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
Subject: Re: Kashering appliances
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 01:06:33 GMT

In article <727716469@ladybug.cs.duke.edu> deganit@duke.cs.duke.edu (Deganit Armon) writes:
>I have another question related to moving into a used home:  Is it
>possible to kasher built-in appliances?  
>Specifically - dishwasher, oven and microwave.
>
Yes, but what you need to do will depend on some details about the appliances.

In the case of an oven, you need to heat the oven walls to glowing.  This
is usually done with a blow torch.  If you have a self-cleaning oven, the
self-cleaning cycle gets it hot enough.  Some people say you can kasher an
oven by heating it to the highest temperature possible for several hours
(1-5 depending on what opinion you get).  

In the case of a dishwasher, it depends on what the dishwasher is made of.  The
interior has to be metal for it to be kashered.  If you have plastic racks,
you'll need to replace them and if you want to use it for both meat and milk
you'll need two sets of racks.  For metal racks, you would just run it for
a full cycle.  You need to run an empty cycle between meat and milk, also.

I know nothing about microwaves since I've never had one.  I remember something
about putting water in to make steam but it isn't clear.  Since a microwave
doesn't get hot, it isn't clear if it can ever become treyf so just cleaning
it may be adequate.

Consult your rabbi, of course.  It's a good idea to give him all the info
about the type of appliance, even model numbers and the like.

Miriam Nadel
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.german
From: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Cleaning up SCJ
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:48:53 GMT
Reply-To: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Organization: The Wistar Institute of Anatomy and Biology
In-reply-to: waldo@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Todd J. Dicker)

In article <NJo2XB1w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>, waldo@cybernet (Todd J. Dicker) writes:
>As with before, Wiener, all abusive e-mail directed at me will be 
>forwarded to your sysadmin without comment.

I didn't even know you were a problem case....
-- 
-Matthew P Wiener (weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu)
From: friedenb@boswell.egr.msu.edu (Gedaliah Friedenberg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Cleaning up SCJ
Date: 24 Jan 93 03:13:58 GMT
Reply-To: friedenb@boswell.egr.msu.edu (Gedaliah Friedenberg)
Organization: College of Engineering, Michigan State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: boswell.egr.msu.edu


I am personally opposed to moderation.

But, I want to see the signal/noise ratio on SCJ to get better.

There are a number of people posting stuff to SCJ which belongs
elsewhere (TPM, alt.messianic, /dev/null, etc.).  Many of the 
posts to SCJ are also directed to one person instead of to
all readers.  This belongs in email not Usenet.

Please help the situation by not posting anything that is 
inappropriate to SCJ.  

If you read something that you think does not belong here, 
please send mail to the poster, with a copy of the article,
and ask them not to post similar articles to SCJ.  
Rather, suggest to them a more appropriate newsgroup, or to
send it via private email if it is not meant for public readership.

Thanks.

Gedaliah Friedenberg
-=-Department of Mechanical Engineering
-=-Department of Metallurgy, Mechanics and Materials Science
-=-Michigan State University


                   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: sethr@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (seth.r.rosenthal)
Subject: Re: Thirteen tribes :)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:45:10 GMT
Keywords: qweerrty

In article <105949@netnews.upenn.edu>, rubinoff@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Robert Rubinoff) writes:
> In article <1993Jan21.143431.203485@uctvax.uct.ac.za> naturman@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:
> >There were thirteen Israelite tribes not twelve:
> >We all know that Judah and Benjamin were not exiled by the Assyrians, and if you
> >check up you'll see that neither was Simeon. Also the Levites and Kohanim were
> >not lost. This leaves only 9 "lost" tribes. :)
> 
> That's absolutely right.  Which just goes to show that people don't know how
> to count.
> 
>    Robert
> 

Actually, IMO, the 10 Tribes thing was a neat backdoor
for people who wanted to claim they were really Jews,
to say "we are the real Jews because we are descended
from the 10 Lost Tribes".  This claim goes from the
Black Hebrews (not the Ethiopian Jews btw) to the
lunatic fringes of various European Christian groups.
Hard to see how North Europeans and Southern Africans
are related.  By now, most of the descendants of the
10 Tribes are probably Moslems, living in parts of Iran,
Afghanistan, Pakistan, ...  except for the Jews
from the same regions who are probably at least partly
Israelite.


		Seth Rosenthal


Disclaimer: All opinions are my own not my employers'.
From: naturman@uctvax.uct.ac.za
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Voiceless "h" ?
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:29:52 +0200
Keywords: pronunciation
Organization: University of Cape Town

>  
>  is an example of a velar fricative. "Breathing" or the term glottal fricative 
>> best describes the voiceless "h" (as in him).
>  
> Voiceless??? Surely the English h is voiced. The only people who pronounce it
> unvoiced seem to be the British royal family :)
>  
> I am not a linguist, and can only quote the texts I have used.
>  
> "The voiceless fricative [h] (as in hoe) can best be described as a breathing."
>  
> "The Origins and Development of the English Language"
> Thomas Pyles / John Algeo, p. 30


Probably just a case of different accents. (Although the "posh" British accent
seems to be the only one I've heard where the h is unvoiced.)

Colin
From: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Torah is the center of every Jew? (was Orthadox Judaism and women)
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:22:42 GMT
Reply-To: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Organization: The Wistar Institute of Anatomy and Biology
In-reply-to: david@bourbon.ee.tulane.edu (David Kaufmann)

In article <1993Jan27.221356.11513@cs.tulane.edu>, david@bourbon (David Kaufmann) writes:
>Rape was and is a serious crime in Judaism, long before "modern" courts.
>Other systems of jurisprudence would benefit from a study of it.

One particular example of this is the prohibition against marital rape.
Western courts are only slowly getting around to taking this issue.  I
have heard that when the first case came up in Israel--where state law
is a hybrid of Turkish, British, and Jewish law--the defendant argued
that British common law does not recognize such a crime, but the judges
held by Jewish law.
-- 
-Matthew P Wiener (weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu)
From: aplebaum@irs01.cs.huji.ac.il (Hillel Applebaum)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Has Chabad gone crazy?
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:46:22 GMT
Organization: The Hebrew U. of Jerusalem, Computer Science Dep.
NNTP-Posting-Host: irs01.cs.huji.ac.il

yes.
-- 

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: fy@lucid.com (Frank Yellin)
Subject: Re: Need a MAC Jewish Calendar Program
Organization: Lucid, Inc., Menlo Park, CA
	<1993Jan19.203426.8110@Arco.COM>
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:27:30

>
>  Anyone know of a Jewish Calendar Program for the Macintosh? I am
>  particularly  interested in a Hypercard stack, if available, but I'll
>  take it anyway I can get it. Todah Rabah.
>
>    David Chapin
>   dbtdxc@er.arco.com

I've got a program that I wrote that I'll post later today.  Try it out.

-- Frank
From: bob.gries@ggcs.org (Bob Gries) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Who did Cain marry?
Date: 24 Jan 93 20:23:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Golden Gate Computer Society BBS - Marin, CA - 415-927-1216
Reply-To: bob.gries@ggcs.org (Bob Gries) 

AS."I is not now, nor has I ever been, a Human Bein'!"
  .                ---Pogo Possum


Cain cudda' married a troglodyte...  look what he did to Able for being
a landowner (-tiller).

BTW, both are still done.

---
 . SLMR 2.1a .   Comedy = tragedy + time
From: bc744@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Negaitve Jewish portrayals in Film (was: Re: GO SEE "A STRANGER AMONG US"!!!)
Date: 21 Jan 1993 19:22:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


   Spike Lee's protrayal of two Jewish club owners, in "Mo Better
Blues" is an example of negative stereotyping that was not only a
vile portrayal, but it also flew in the face of the truth of Jews
and their involvement in the history of jazz in America.  

   Jews were one of the major forces in not only making jazz more
'mainstream'(as in the case of the famous 1938 Benny Goodman show
at Carnegie Hall), but also in the elimination of racism in jazz.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.german
From: esafern@shearson.com (Eric Safern)
Subject: Re: Method of Payment (dollars) in Israel
Reply-To: esafern@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:58:47 GMT

The best exchange rates can be gotten on the black market.  Never exchange money
at a bank, or even worse, with the government.


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From: harry@hershele.alf.dec.com (Harry Katz)
Subject: Re: Negaitve Jewish portrayals in Film (was: Re: GO SEE "A STRANGER AMONG US"!!!)
Organization: DEC - Customer Support Center, Alpharetta, GA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:40:56 GMT

Mark Ira Kaufman (bc744@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:

	Spike Lee's protrayal of two Jewish club owners,
	in "Mo Better Blues" is an example of negative stereotyping
	that was not only a vile portrayal, but it also flew in the
	face of the truth of Jews and their involvement in the
	history of jazz in America.  

I believe it also flies in the face of Spike Lee's own experience.
I seem to remember seeing an article in a magazine or newspaper that
quoted Spike Lee as saying that he had positive relationships with
Jewish entertainment promoters in his youth or in his lifetime.  (As
you can see I do not remember this very well.)

But his rationale for the characters is that there are bad people among
all groups, including Jews, and that his characters are not intended as
representatives of all Jews or stereotypes.  In other words, they are
bad individuals, not typical Jews.

My father, though, picked up on anti-Jewish stereotyping long ago.  He
pointed out to me that whenever there is a scene in a movie depicting a
family celebration, such as a wedding or engagement party, that Jews
always have the short, fat, and funny-looking relatives, whereas WASPS
always have tall, slender, and distinguished-looking relatives.  A good
example of this is a movie from the seventies called
_The_Heartbreak_Kid.  The movie opens with a Jewish wedding and closes
with a mainstream WASP wedding.  The difference between the guests at
the two parties is quite obvious.

Harry Katz

Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: afarkas@ernie.Princeton.EDU (Andrew Farkas)
Subject: Re: Kosherizing Recipes
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:28:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.180802.11894@speedy.aero.org> nadel@attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel) writes:

>                                                 The most difficult thing
>to perfect a substitute for lard in turns out to be Chinese almond cookies.
>A friend and I ran through everything we could think of before a moment of
>inspiration brought success by using schmaltz.  That's right - good old
>chicken fat is an excellent substitute for lard.
>

Clearly there has to be a healthier (parve) alternative.  Stella D'oro
has chinese almond cookies that, according to the O-u are parve, and
so can't contain schmaltz.  I'm not sure if the taste is sufficiently
authentic, but they are certainly enjoyable.
-- 
Andrew Farkas
AFarkas@phoenix.princeton.edu (Internet) AFarkas@pucc (Bitnet)
From: simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltsov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Send a fax to the Almighty!!!
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:35:17 GMT
Reply-To: simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltsov)
Followup-To: soc.culture.jewish
Organization: Boston University

In article <1993Jan23.134128.1@vxdesy.desy.de> godfrey@vxdesy.desy.de writes:
>In article <1993Jan23.063950.18274@dogface.austin.tx.us>, joe@dogface.austin.tx.us (Joe Zitt) writes:
>> This is a longshot... but are there any systems in Jerusalem that could gateway
>> email to a given pseudo-user out to a fax to the Kotel?
>
>I wonder, could it also be arranged for God's replies to be forwarded back by
>email, or could He get direct access to internet?
>
>Laurence
He is probably still waiting to get a phone-line from Bezek.
From: nmuller@ems.cdc.com (Nelson Muller)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Fourscore and several years ...
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:07:23 GMT
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

In article <1jv2oqINNiv7@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, sutin@ra.UCSC.EDU (Brian Sutin) writes:
|> 
|> Maybe, but the origin of the phrase is distinctly French.  The only way to
|> say 87 in French is quatre-vingt-et-sept, which directly translates as
|> four score and seven.  French has no word for eighty or ninety (although I
|> believe Belgian has a word for ninety).

Once in Quebec I heard someone saying  nouvent (sp?) meaning ninety.  I believe
the origin is French, since Quebec is a former French colony.

|> 
|> Brian Sutin				sutin@lick.ucsc.edu
|> Lick Observatory, UCSC			Santa Cruz, CA 95064
|>     Fred:   "May I rescue you?"
|>     Ginger: "No, thank you.  I prefer being in distress."

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: riipinen@dxcern.cern.ch (Petri Juhani Riipinen)
Subject: Re: Fourscore and several years ...
Organization: CERN European Laboratory for Particle Physics
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:08:34 GMT

In article <1jv2oqINNiv7@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> sutin@ra.UCSC.EDU (Brian Sutin) writes:
>Maybe, but the origin of the phrase is distinctly French.  The only way to
>say 87 in French is quatre-vingt-et-sept, which directly translates as
>four score and seven.  French has no word for eighty or ninety (although I
>believe Belgian has a word for ninety).

Well, I just can't help nit-picking, but that is not the only way...:) The
Swiss French say: huit-tont-et-sept (not sure about the sp). But then again,
you can always argue, do the Swiss speak French or do they speak some sort
of own dialect of French...:) And Swiss also say nonont (sp?), when they say
90...

- Petri -
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From: khaikin@cis.ohio-state.edu (dmitry khaikin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Bitachon (Trust)
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:17:51 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: boa.cis.ohio-state.edu

Sorry, just testing!

Dima.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: MASH@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL (Michael Shimshoni)
Subject: Gematria (was Send a fax to the Almighty!!!)
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:02:42 GMT

In: <1k1anoINNi0g@umbc4.umbc.edu>
shimoff@umbc.edu (Eliot Shimoff) comments on the new FAX facility

>In article <108203@bu.edu> simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltsov) writes:
>
>>He [G-d] is probably still waiting to get a phone-line from Bezek.
>
>For the record, the gematria of BeZeK times 7 plus 7 is 770!

As  Elliot brought  up a  gematria and  770 reached  after some  extra
arithmetics, some  readers may  be interested to  know that  Hamor Bli
Da'at (in short HB"D) adds up also to 770.

>Of course, some of you will attribute this to a coincidence, but ...

Of  course, just  a  coincidence, *nobody*  takes gematria  seriously,
especially if it gives *such* indications...

>Eliot Shimoff                  |    n   n   n

 Michael Shimshoni