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From: dana@lando.la.locus.com (Dana H. Myers)
Subject: Re: Consider this about roof mounted mobile antennas...
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 19:17:32 GMT

In article <1jmk7mINN2qd@network.ucsd.edu> brian@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) writes:
>
>Motorola uses a special NMO with super-low-loss Teflon/silver coax for
>their 900 MHz radios.  If you're going to be running 450 MHz in the car,
>you might well invest it one of those instead of the plain coax model
>that the typical ham store carries.  Your local two-way shop will probably
>have some in stock.  They'll even do the install for you if you like.

I agree with Brian.  However, I'd like to caution the average ham against
going into your local (commercial) two-way shop and acting like a ham.
Most two-way shops deal with commercial customers who don't hassle over
every little thing, and don't waste a lot of the shop's time on something
they decide not to buy.  In other words, call the shop and ask for a quote
on what you want.  If you don't like the quote, call another shop and shop
around.  But don't hang on the phone BSing, don't play up the pubic service
thing about ham radio, and don't try to squeak the last penny out of the
price.  You'll just irritate the people at that shop and they won't want to
hassle with you.

-- 
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ 		| Views expressed here are	*
 * (310) 337-5136 		| mine and do not necessarily	*
 * dana@locus.com  DoD #466 	| reflect those of my employer	*
 * This Extra supports the abolition of the 13 and 20 WPM tests *
From: kchen@Apple.COM (Kok Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ramsey at Fry Electronics
Date: 24 Jan 93 22:01:29 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA


QST: Some Ramsey kits can now be found at Fry Electronics in
Sunnyvale.

Disclaimer: I have nothing to do with Fry's (except for spending
money there) and have yet to build a Ramsey kit.

73

Kok Chen, AA6TY				kchen@apple.com
Apple Computer, Inc.
From: keith@radio.nusc.navy.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: NEED HELP FINDING OLD CALLSIGN
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:36:04 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin) said:
>In <1993Jan22.135838.15824@cbnewse.cb.att.com>
>  parnass@cbnewse.cb.att.com (Bob Parnass, AJ9S) said:
>|Also, some people *incorrectly* assume that you can tell how
>|long a ham has been licensed from the data on these servers.
>
>True, but you do get an upper bound!
>
>        /JBL

Umm... maybe we're just defining terms differently here, but don't you mean
a LOWER bound?  If you're referring to the dates, they only tell you the last
time some action was taken on the license (upgrade, change of address, etc.)
So the person has obviously been licensed at least since that date.

If you're referring to the callsigns (including previous callsign), that tells
you absolutely nothing.  Only one previous callsign (at most) seems to be kept
in the records, so if I was W1AAA licensed in 1927 (just an example) and then
I moved to PA and got the call N3BUG, and then moved to MA and got the call
N1HOG, I think the database would only show N1HOG and N3BUG.  Thus you could
tell nothing from the callsigns.  Someone correct me if this is wrong, but I
know my father has had more than two calls and only two show up in the
database.

73,
Keith (WA2Q)

keith@radio.nusc.navy.mil
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rlong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald K Long)
Subject: Notebook PC at CW Exam?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:45:37 GMT


The title tells it all. Is it allowed to use a word
processor in the form of a notebook PC to copy code
during a VEC administered exam?

Is it up to the individual VEC group to make their
own rule?

Thanks.

73 
Ron W8GUS
rlong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: edw@sequent.com (Ed Wright)
Subject: Re: 2m/70cm antenna
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 17:48:39 GMT

In article <3064@eram.esi.COM.AU> dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall) writes:
>In article <1993Jan18.032058.20986@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au>,
>    pgc@csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au (Phil Clark) writes:
>
>| With the introduction of new conditions for the Novice licence in Australia,
>| giving Novices access to the 70cm band, I have done a few experiments in using
>| a J-Pole antenna on two bands.
>
>A genuine J-pole, or a Slim Jim [tm] ?  The latter is often called the
>former, to avoid petty trademark arguments.  And how come the venerable
>Slim Jim (a folded J pole, or an end-fed folded dipole) is never mentioned
>in USA publications?

I used one for years on children's band, and later on 10 metres.
Cheap to build, Work fine, last a good long time.
--
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From: jws@fc.hp.com (John Schmidt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: net wisdom: repeater conrollers
Date: 21 Jan 1993 16:40:05 GMT
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpfcjws.fc.hp.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

The S-Comm 7K model should do all you want very nicely.
Give them a call at 303 663-6000. All of our local clubs in northern Colorado
are using these machines.
From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: General Class Licence - HELP!!!!
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:23:14 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

slanka@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Ishantha Lokuge) writes:

>Hello!

>Could someone tell a good way to prepare for the general class
>license? I am looking for a book that contains the material and
>the general class question pool. Also, some tapes for code. Thanks
>in advance for your help. Please email to:

I really like the Gordon West material.  Radio Shack sells it as
the "General Class" course.  He makes CW relatively fun and
painless.  He breaks up the code into easy-to-digest lessons.
The ARRL tapes just go on and on into boring infinity.  

After trying the Ameco and ARRL tapes, it was Gordon West that
finally got me over the 13 WPM hump.

73 DE KK6MY

-- 

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Randall Rhea                                        Informix Software, Inc. 
Project Manager, MIS Sales/Marketing Systems    uunet!pyramid!infmx!randall
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: tcain@brtph87.bnr.ca (Tom Cain  WB8OUE)
Subject: Re: I love/hate Wayne Green!
Organization: BNR Inc. RTP, NC
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:15:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.192114.3004@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones) writes:
>As soon as I get my new issue of 73 magazine I sit down and open it
>up to Wayne Green's editorial! I always enjoy reading what he has to
>say and even if I don't agree with him it makes for a good read. Wayne
I agree wholeheartedly!!  I enjoy all of 73, but, Wayne's editorial is
what makes the mag unique and always the first thing I read.  Amateur
radio NEEDS a rabble-rouser and Wayne does a great job at it!
From: vbreault@rinhp750.gmr.com (Val Breault)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Real NoCodes
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:18:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: rinhp750.VBREAULT.93Jan25171854
Organization: General Motors Research Labs
In-reply-to: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.com's message of 22 Jan 93 22:42:12 GMT

In article <kd1hz.1@anomaly.sbs.com> kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.com (Michael P. Deignan) writes:

			    REAL NOCODES
			By Michael P. Deignan
			kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.com
<stuff deleted>
	6. Real nocodes operate HTs with stubduckies in their vehicles
	   and then wonder why they aren't making it into the machine.

Locally, it seems that the folks with the really crappy signals are
extras.  My successful completion of the exam for Extra was announced
as: "Val, your signal STINKS... congratulations on the upgrade."

(It's a local "inside" joke.)  :-)

	7. Real nocodes attempt to check into nets on their HTs while in
	   their basement.

Real Extras do the same thing, but with packet bursts and cw blairing
in the background.
--
-val-

Val Breault - GM Research - vbreault@gmr.com - N8OEF            \      /|
Instrumentation dept., 30500 Mound Rd., Warren, MI 48090-9055    \    / |
The opinions expressed by the author do not necessarily reflect   \  /__|
those of GMR or those of the General Motors Corporation.           \/   |___
 
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: cbrooks@afit.af.mil (Christopher L Brooks)
Subject: *** Looking for Back Issue of Ham Radio Magazine ***
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:32:03 GMT

I'm trying to track down the article "A Direct Digital Synthesis VFO,"
which appeared in the Sept 1988 issue of _HAM_RADIO_MAGAZINE_.  Please
send me e-mail if you can make this available to me (either via
mail or fax).

Thanks!

--Chris Brooks
--cbrooks@afit.af.mil
From: blw7149@tamsun.tamu.edu (Brandon Lee White)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Code vs Nocodes: invalid argument
Date: 23 Jan 1993 15:36:32 -0600
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu

On January 26, 1992, I passed my codeless technician exam.  Then after waiting
an agonizing 11 weeks, my ticket finally arrived and I became KB5WDR. 
Meanwhile, I read many opinions pertaining to no-codes, some supportive and 
some derogatory.  So, over Christmas break, I decided to upgrade as I had been 
meaning to all along.  After I began learning the code, I thought, wouldn't it 
be neat to upgrade to extra in one fell swoop.  So, three weeks after learning 
my first letter of code, and only three months after my codeless exam, I
passed the 20 wpm code and the general, advanced, and extra written exams
this morning (January 23, 1993).  So, there are two points I would like to 
make:   1.  People who gripe about the barriers to hamming or to the extra 
	    frequencies have nothing to gripe about.  The 20wpm is difficult,
	    but it is not impossible.  Anyone who makes a concerted effort 
	    can pass the test.  If some of these people put half the effort
	    spent griping toward learning the code, they would realize that 
	    the "barrier" is not unreasonable.  

	2.  People who gripe about the no-codes ruining ham radio also have 
	    nothing to gripe about.  The codeless tech is a valid way of 
	    fostering interest in the hobby without turning it into another
	    CB band.  Taking and passing a code exam isn't going to change 
	    a person for the better or for the worse.  It simply means that 
	    he/she was willing to spend the time on it. 
I'm not trying to say that upgrading shouldn't be given the distinction it 
deserves.  As I know firsthand, upgrading is an achievement requiring a great
deal of work and should be recognized.  I'm just saying that someone who
doesn't upgrade shouldn't act like they are being actively discriminated
against, and vice versa, the people who have upgraded shouldn't act like
they're so much better than someone who hasn't. 

The bottom line is that the whole argument, from both sides, is invalid.

73 de KB5WDR/AE,

Brandon





Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: Re: Burglars are brighter than you might think!
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:43:50 GMT

Fred Lloyd  writes:
>>  Beware of the Eavesdroppers...
>  I make it a personal practice NEVER to discuss vacation plans over the air
>  I don't even like to mention the fact that my wife is in the car with me >
>  (meaning that the house is empty

This is all good advice, but very, very scary.  What does it say
about the society  we've created?  Think I'll go get me a big gun!
No, no, that's not right; George is gone, Bill C. is in the White House.  Let's see; I'll go get me a sensitive, self-actualized, empowered house cat to guard my rig at home. ;-)

Mike, N4PDY
************************
* These are my opinions only.*
************************
From: plaws@uafhp.uark.edu (Peter Laws)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LICENSE DELAYS
Date: 26 Jan 1993 22:00:21 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


  Same in these parts (NW Ark.).  Novice 5-6 weeks, Tech 8-10-12 weeks. 

  Now, is it the League (ARRL VEC in this area) holding them up on
purpose, or does the FCC have a "quota" system? 

  I *have* noticed that the League has trouble dealing with the Tech
explosion, ie. a statement in the latest Handbook (or was it a mailer?)
commenting on the recent jump in numbers of new hams and how it *may*, MAY
be due to the new codeless ticket.

  Sheesh.  What do we have to do?  Beat them over the head with a key? 


(PS- Yes I pay my dues, and Yes, overall the League does a good job. 
Especially the new booklet they mail to new hams--Excellent!)


Peter Laws|GEnie:P.LAWS1| "Finally:  one of our guys is  |plaws@uafhp.uark.edu
n5uwy@ka5bml.ar.usa.noam| driving the car"--Dennis Miller|plaws@uafsysb.bitnet
From: bob@kc2wz.bubble.org (Bob Billson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham Radio Causes Cancer!
Date: 28 Jan 93 06:21:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Color Computer 3: Tandy's 'game' machine

jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece) says:

[snip]

>>  And even if there does turn out to
>> be some effect, it's clear that it must be pretty small.  (Even those
>> studies that do show an effect place it far below the dangers of, say, 
>> cigarette smoking.)
>
>Just like the recent stories about cellular phones causing brain cancer
>ignored the far more likely danger of users walking or driving into an
>accident while using them....

The local news has been buzzing with the dangers of cell phone the passed few
days.  They always say that "scientists say there is no conclusive
evidence yet but...".  I am puzzled other forms of environmentally related
cancer takes YEARS (20+) before rises above the "background noise".  Seems
none of "scare" reporters stop to think about this.  Must be blissful to be
really technically and scientifically ignorant. :-(
-- 
  Bob Billson, KC2WZ                          | internet: bob@kc2wz.bubble.org
  $nail:  21 Bates Way,  Westfield, NJ 07090  | uucp:     ...!uunet!kc2wz!bob

               "Friends don't let friends run DOS" -- Microware
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: reisert@mast.enet.dec.com ("Jim Reisert, AD1C  26-Jan-1993 1449")
Subject: QSL Help Needed:  CQWW CW 92
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 11:47:16 PST
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These callsigns were logged in the CQWW CW contest last November.
Anyone have QSL routes for them?

	3A2LW
	DU3HF
	FO/SM5NZY (home call?)
	J20UFT
	LZ6L
	XR1X

Thanks - Jim AD1C

--
Jim Reisert                     Internet:  reisert@mast.enet.dec.com
Digital Equipment Corp.         UUCP:      ...decwrl!mast.enet.dec.com!reisert
146 Main Street	- MLO3-6/C9	Voice:     508-493-5747
Maynard, MA  01754		FAX:       508-493-0395
From: epacyna@auratek.UUCP (Edward Pacyna)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Carolina Windom
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:48:29 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Aurora Technologies, Inc.; Cambridge, Mass.

I have heard reference to an antenna called the Carolina Windom. I have not
been able to find any details/description of this antenna. Can someone out
there provide a short summary/diagram?

Thanks in advance.
From: ak667@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Garvas)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WANTED: handheld radio
Date: 24 Jan 1993 11:40:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


	I'm gonna be a tech, maybe tech plus soon.

I'm looking for a handheld!!

respond via email if selling, or willing to give up nice advice =)

Jeff
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: chrisc@ramrod.lmt.mn.org (Chris Cox)
Subject: Re: Real NoCodes
Organization: LaserMaster Technologies, Minneapolis, MN  USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:14:05 GMT

In article <kd1hz.1@anomaly.sbs.com> kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.com (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
>From: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.com (Michael P. Deignan)
>Subject: Real NoCodes
>Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:42:12 GMT

>                         REAL NOCODES
>                     By Michael P. Deignan
>                     kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.com

[ Humourous crap deleted...]

>And yes... Every one of these actually happened.
>Have any others? Email them to me!
> 
>  Michael P. Deignan, KD1HZ               
>  Domain: mpd@anomaly.sbs.com               I'm not a bigot,    
>    UUCP: ...!uunet!anomaly!mpd             I hate everyone...  
> Telebit: +1 401 455 0347                 

...and let's face, you NEVER heard this stuff before the FCC no-code license 
was established, did you.

All of the above is and has been common practice at least for the past six 
years (the length of time I have been in the US).

Chris

   Chris Cox  W0/G4JEC                               chrisc@lmt.mn.org
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: mellob@cary112.its.rpi.edu (Silly Putty)
Subject: RE: No Codes
Reply-To: mellob@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:18:19 GMT


	Fellow netters:

	It should, at this depth of the conversation, be completely
	obvious that none of us is worthy of operating on the same planet	
	with Mr. Deignan.

	It is apparent that Mr. Deignan passed all 5 Amateur exams in
	one sitting, including the 20wpm code which he spent one day
	studying for. 
	
	It is also clear that Mr. Deignan knew EXACTLY what he was doing
	from the first moment he turned his radio on. 

	It is also Clear that Mr. Deignan is the God of Ham Radio because
	a God and only a God has the ability to judge another person the way he
	has.

	Mr. Deignan, I am not worthy of holding an Amateur Radio license.
	
	I salute you.	       ^
			      | |
			      | |
			    ^^|	|^^	
			 ^ |       |
			|
			 \         /     

       Brett Mellor
	Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute	mellob@rpi.edu
	Troy, New York.	

	And in this case, I'm sure my school shares the same opinion.
From: cummings@stein.u.washington.edu (Michael Cummings)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Real NoCodes
Date: 25 Jan 1993 07:41:29 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

In <C1E2np.G98@anomaly.sbs.com> n1mpq@anomaly.sbs.com (Tony Pelliccio) writes:

>Of course some people don't recognize humor when they see it. We're just
>having fun here. Not trying to really flame no-codes. We realize there are
>people with gen, adv and xtra class licenses that are just as bad as the
>ones who don't have code. Ah well... have a good life.

	It's easy to recognize the original post as an attempt at humor.
Indeed, one could almost hear Mr. Deignan chuckling to himself as he typed
it.

	But it's also easy to see it for what it is:  A series of
mean-spirited generalizations about "no-codes" disguised as humor.  It's a
classic example of someone wanting to put down a whole group of people
while maintaining an easy excuse for doing so.  If anyone complains, he can
say, "Hey, lighten up - It's a joke," or "I wasn't singling _you_ out."
It's just plain cowardly.

-- 
Michael Cummings  NX7E	
cummings@u.washington.edu
"To be hit by Moriyama's fastball is an honor exceeded only by being
crushed under the wheels of the Imperial carriage." - _You Gotta Have Wa_
From: ring@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Warren Ring)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Real Hams...  ALL!
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:19:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: mycroft.jpl.nasa.gov

The president of our Amateur Radio club here at Jet Propulsion Lab
is a no-code tech.  He has no intention of upgrading.

They just voted him into office for a second term.  Hmmm...

Warren Ring KN6AR/AE
From: buchanan@bme1.utmem.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: The state of Ham Radio
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:40:03 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

...
>We hams didn't have much of a plan either or we would not have lost it.  Use
>it or lose it!  With the recent thread on 70 cm close repeaters in mind how
>many of us are watching out for our microwave bands?  I hope we don't expect
>the ARRL to come to our rescue.  No slight of the ARRL intended here.  Seems
>too many hams have the attitude that "the League will save it for us" instead
>adding our voices to the Leagues.  Bet the FCC got more comments about the
>no code proposal than the lose to 220-222. <sigh> 
>
>      Bob
>-- 
>  Bob Billson, KC2WZ                          | internet: bob@kc2wz.bubble.org
>  $nail:  21 Bates Way,  Westfield, NJ 07090  | uucp:     ...!uunet!kc2wz!bob

See also section B front page USA Today 1/21 and other papers about
testimony by John Scully (sp?) and others to congressional committee
regarding two issues:  1. Deregulation of phone companies (which we
probably don't care about).  2.  Reallocation of spectrum space for new
uses.  Item 2 is ominous.  A few other people (Phil Karn, Gary from
Atlanta and Julian from Bongo come to mind) have made valid points
about where we appear to be putting our attention as opposed to where
we should be putting our attention.  Ham radio is extremely vulnerable
from a technical perspective.  We are nowhere near "state of the art"
to the extent we should be.  From a political (taken broadly)
perspective we still have a lot of good will although the desire of
some to be policemen for the spectrum as well as the level of some of
the discussions we have here and more particularly on the air is
hurting us.  In addition, 911 on a cellular phone is becomming the way
many emergency situations are being reported, cutting into our
favorable press.  Regardless of your point of view, the 10+ year long
code/no-code feud has probably irreparably hurt us with a major portion
of our potential constituency and may have cost us much of a generation
of computer literate, technologically savvy hams.  Each of the new
consumer/wireless communications schemes which comes along will want a
chunk of spectrum about the size of a ham band.  I am afraid the UPS
220MHz scheme may ultimately come to look like a kindergarden
playground skirmish.  Is anyone else concerned about all this?
	Jack  K4FRS
	buchanan@bme1.utmem.edu
From: barryf@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Barry Fowler)
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 17:02:45 GMT
Subject: Re: HTs at Disneyland
Organization: HP Colorado Computer Mfg. Operation
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

I've been to an ARRL convention at Disneyland.  'Lots-o HT's there.

But then again, that was before the government made drugs a problem.