From: alan@auntbea.austin.ibm.com (Alan R. Weiss)
Subject: Re: "Kindly Do Not Tread in the Excrement"
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:07:48 GMT
Organization: (blasting liberty to y'all)

In article <1992Dec18.114235.26599@thelema.uucp> STella@thelema.uucp (STella) writes:
>In article <1grvgrINNt6e@agate.berkeley.edu> mlloyd@ocf.berkeley.edu (M. Lloyd) writes:
>>alan@auntbea.austin.ibm.com (Alan R. Weiss) writes:  
>>>mlloyd@ocf.berkeley.edu (M. Lloyd) writes:

Me:

>>>Oh, fer crissake, Mike!  Andrea Dworkin is a complete and utter
>>>idiot, who would take away your rights in a New York minute given
>>>half the chance.  Besides, HER pornography (read her books!)
>>>is filled with aggression, anger, and just plain violence.
>>>She's just pissed that it doesn't sell as well as Bob Guccione's!
>>>Have you ever *READ* her crap?  Unbelievable.

STella:

>In general, I say "Right ON!"  But if Dwork were a complete and utter
>idiot, rather than being keenly aware of the stupidity of the average
>man, woman and congresscritter, I would be less concerned about her
>pernicious influence.
>
>But I agree that she's pretty hate-driven.


Damn.  You're right, of course.  You've given me reason to think on
this a little further, and I came up with this:

The Dworkmeister is pissed because her mindtrip isn't taking over
popular cultural thinking.

Most people who seek want to play ThoughtPolice ("double-plus ungood!")
really just want to substitute their mindtrip for the one already
rattling around in your head.

When this doesn't work, they call in the fascists - let's IMPOSE
our mindtrip on the masses, and all that.  How very dull - the
20th Century is filled with this kind of nonsense.


>>Sheesh, Alan!  Call me a wimp, but can't we keep this a little more
>>level-headed?  Given the hot-button fiesta we've had around here
>>recently, I think a little less vitriol may be called for.
>
>OK, dear...  "you wimp" (tm).  Better?  I argue that it's fairly
>level-headed, upon coming home to find a pile of excrement on the
>doormat, to say "Hey, some idiot shit on the rug."  Vitriol?  Not for
>me -- I try not to hate people I'm fighting (makes me stupider), and I
>consider countering dworkinista illogic too important to fuck up.


.... and too important not to counter with STrong Medicine :-)
Look, I get a little riled when people try to take away my liberty.
Call me silly, call me emotional, but that's my nature.
Didn't mean to offend - too much.  Can't say the same for The Dwork, though.


>>a direct comparison, but some abuse occurs in the production of this
>[porn] >stuff.
>
>You can say that about a maternity ward too -- what's your point,
>Mike?
>
>>I think I'll leave it there.  No reason to light too many touch papers
>>at once.

Oh, why not!  I mean, all this hugging and de-muffining has
given me a cavity!  This is the 90's, the 21st Century is around
the corner, and we're still battling statist-feminazis-from-hell.
Same game, different rap, IMHO.


>Well flick mah bic, boy!  It's all intertwingled.
>
>STella@xanadu.com	1016 E. El Camino Real, #302, Sunnyvale, CA 94087
>STella%thelema.uucp@dec.com	Don't blame me, I voted Libertarian!
						^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

So did I, since 1978.  I'm gettin' tired of losing, though, aren't you?

Hmmmm .... intertwingled.  Down, hormones, down!

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