HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister)
Newsgroups: alt.activism.d
Subject: Re: Guatemala Troops Harass Indigenous/ed-lp
Date: 15 Dec 1992 01:53:44 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

In article <HAAVARDF.92Dec15015815@gluon.uio.no> haavardf@gluon.uio.no (Haavard Fosseng) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.234735.11910@mont.cs.missouri.edu> nyt%nyxfer%igc.apc.org@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu (NY Transfer News) writes:
>
>   Meanwhile, Rigoberta Menchu is in Oslo, Sweden, to receive her
>
>Oslo's in Sweden? That's news indeed to me.
>
>
>H}vard Fosseng

This message probably went through a time warp back to, oh, 1900
before making it back here. Even the hardworking folks at NY
Transfer slip up from time to time.
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From: "nigel allen" <nigel.allen@canrem.com>
Subject: Re: How do I get mail to Peacenet?
Reply-To: "nigel allen" <nigel.allen@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 20 Dec 92 23:10:09 EST


To send mail to a user on Peacenet or Econet, take the 
user's user name and add @igc.apc.org.to the end.

For information about peacenet, send mail to:
peacenet@igc.apc.org.

For information about econet, send mail to:
peacenet@igc.apc.org.

Nigel Allen      nigel.allen@canrem.com
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Newsgroups: alt.activism.d
From: hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd)
Subject: Re: Judi Bari: Misery Loves Company (Repost)
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:53:17 GMT

cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton) writes:
>As quoted from <Judi.10Dec1992.8pm@naughty-peahen> by Judi Bari via Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu>:

>Then obviously you're angry at YOURSELF.  I can see why, since in a sense you 
>did "rape" yourself.  Of course that's not the word I'd REALLY use, but I'll be
>at least slightly discreet.  If you don't like misery, don't blow yourself up.
>It don't get much simpler than that....

You asshole!  I suppose Rodney King beat himself up too.  Man you are a true
blue american!
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Pete Hurd, hurd@sfu.ca| Q: Why did the Jungle Fowl cross the road?          |
Behavioural Ecology   | A: To maximize it's lifetime reproductive success   |
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Burnaby B.C., Canada  | A: I guess it just needed to get to the other side. |
Xref: sparky alt.activism.d:4328 talk.politics.drugs:7934 alt.privacy:2594
From: h8eg083@stan.xx.swin.oz.au (Darren Gower)
Newsgroups: alt.activism.d,talk.politics.drugs,alt.privacy
Subject: Re: 100 Percent Drug-Free Workforce Achieved by Security Firm
Date: 13 Dec 92 13:35:08 GMT
Followup-To: alt.activism.d
Organization: Comp. Centre, Swinburne University of Tech., Melbourne, Australia

In <1992Dec10.025550.14846@nntp.hut.fi> jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:

>In article <1992Dec9.025953.7691@mont.cs.missouri.edu>, Nigel Allen <nigel.allen@canrem writes:
>>Here is a press release from Guardsmark Inc.
>>
>> 100 Percent Drug-Free Workforce Achieved by Security Firm; Company
>>is a Model for U.S. Service Firms
[...]

Can someone explain to me what '100% drug free' implies? Which drugs are
tested for and which drugs are considered 'ok' when discovered? Does,
for instance, the discovery of drug used to induce sleep/stress reduction
(such as Valium or other related drugs) get classed as a 'drug' in such
as test? What about stimulants commonly found in cough syrups?

Please e-mail replies if this has already been discussed. I don't often
read this group.

regards,
Darren.
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Newsgroups: alt.activism.d
From: goykhman_a@apollo.hp.com (Alex Goykhman)
Subject: Neo-Pacifism (Re: A pacifist's call for conditional support for US action in Somalia)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:25:13 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Dec18.202245.6709@mont.cs.missouri.edu> dfo@tko.vtt.fi (Foxvog Douglas) writes:
>I am a pacifist US citizen who has been appalled at US military
>interventions around the world since I became politically aware in the 
>1960s.  I know of the terrible things that my government has done and
>all the ways they try to sugar coat their reasons for taking their
>actions.  So in no way am i disposed to favor US military actions.
>
>However, i find the US intervention in Somalia to be different.  There
>are hundreds of thousands of people starving to death because small
>groups of armed men block the provision of food to them (after stealing
>their livestock and preventing their farming during a drought).  I
>support the protection of food convoys to the starving people.  
...

    Another word, you do support U.S. military intervention abroad,
    as long as it suits your political agenda.


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Newsgroups: alt.activism.d
From: haavardf@gluon.uio.no (Haavard Fosseng)
Subject: Re: Guatemala Troops Harass Indigenous/ed-lp
Followup-To: alt.activism.d
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:58:15 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.234735.11910@mont.cs.missouri.edu> nyt%nyxfer%igc.apc.org@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu (NY Transfer News) writes:

   Meanwhile, Rigoberta Menchu is in Oslo, Sweden, to receive her

Oslo's in Sweden? That's news indeed to me.


H}vard Fosseng
Newsgroups: alt.activism.d,talk.environment
From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton)
Subject: Re: Judi Bari: Misery Loves Company (Repost)
Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton)
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:27:01 GMT
Followup-To: alt.activism.d

As quoted from <Judi.10Dec1992.8pm@naughty-peahen> by Judi Bari via Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu>:

> ================================================================
> [From the May 22, 1991 issue of _Anderson_Valley_Advertiser_]
> 
>       Misery Loves Companyy
>       by Judi Bari
> 
>       So what does it feel like a year after getting bombed?  Well,
>       I'm maimed for life and it still hurts a lot.  It hurts to sit,
>       stand or walk, and I get tired easily.  I'm profoundly saddened
>       that I can no longer hike in the forest or teach my youngest
>       daughter how to ride her bike.  I'm really angry at whoever did
>       this to me, and at the police for making sure not to find him.
>       And I feel like a rape victim, still being blamed for the crime.
> 
Then obviously you're angry at YOURSELF.  I can see why, since in a sense you 
did "rape" yourself.  Of course that's not the word I'd REALLY use, but I'll be
at least slightly discreet.  If you don't like misery, don't blow yourself up.
It don't get much simpler than that....

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From: samborsky@skyfox
Newsgroups: alt.activism.d
Subject: Re: Russian spaceships
Date: 13 DEC 92 03:37:46 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: sask.usask.ca

     How about this guy who's been telling stories about the Russian space weapons and moon bases? I've been interested in the Soviet space program for a while and this is the first I've ever heard of these things.
     How come these "COSMOSPHERES" have a half-transliterated name? Why not use the exact Russian pronunciation as is the custom? A "SUPER COSMOSPHERE" sounds like somthing launched from Madison Avenue.
     But maybe I'm just being picky.
     Mark Samborsky
     samborsky@sask.usask.ca
From: 471-1@air.atmo.arizona.edu (E. Shane Jimerfield)
Newsgroups: alt.activism.d
Subject: Re: How do I get mail to Peacenet?
Date: 12 Dec 92 08:16:13 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson

In article <85121@ut-emx.uucp> waldi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu writes:
>Could someone please forward me instructions.

Me to please!!
471-1@air.atmo.arizona.edu
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Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.current-events.somalia,alt.politics.usa.misc,talk.politics.misc
From: dag@col.hp.com (David Geiser)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,sci.med,misc.kids,talk.politics.medicine
Subject: Re: AMA Calls for Ban on Infant Walkers
Date: 15 Dec 1992 19:47:00 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hplsdor.col.hp.com


Parental inattention is dangerous.  Infant walkers' fault is they
let the rug-rats move faster.

Another case of big brother protecting parents from themselves;
the government too.
From: sbm@edam.cs.adelaide.edu.au (John!,,,)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Re: A fast terminological question
Date: 13 Dec 1992 03:38:17 GMT
Organization: The University of Adelaide
Reply-To: sbm@cs.adelaide.edu.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: edam.sun-shop.adelaide.edu.au

From article <1992Dec10.031841.1988@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>, by rteasdal@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Rusty):
> 
> 	Okay, lock.wizards, here's an etymological rather than
> a technological question...
> 
<blah blah blah blah deleted> 
> 	Is there a generic term, or trademark that's become one, for
> this type of key configuration?
> 
Ithink they're just known as tubular locks. But what i want to know is,
whats the easiest way to pick them???


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Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: jbs4930@usl.edu (Scott Jeffrey B)
Subject: BEST push-button door locks
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:25:25 GMT

As most of you know, it's disgustingly easy to hack a
push-button Simplex lock.  This is due to the fact that
no number can be used more than once in the combination.
(Yes, I'm aware that you can use half-steps, but noone
ever does and even Simplex themselves discourage their use.)

I recently saw some BEST locks in a store that looked 
identical to the 5 button Simplex door locks (Series 1000).

My question is - Are these BEST locks as unreliable as
the Simplex locks?  i.e. - can each number only be used
once in the combination, thus reducing the number of 
possible combinations?
--
Brett Scott
jbs4930@usl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: ikuz@cs.vu.nl (Kuz I)
Subject: Re: Mag Stripe Writing
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 11:26:36 GMT

liangw@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (William Liang) writes:

>In article <1992Nov25.193036.35170@slate.mines.colorado.edu> sfendt@slate.mines.colorado.edu ([32m[1mRat![31m) writes:
>>
>>	So, does anybody know where such devices are available???
>>
>>Thax, Sean
>You can always find card readers for sale on the last few pages of electronic
>or computer magazines such as Byte. I have also called up point-of-sales 
>system dealers for prices, and they seem to hover around $300 a piece. 
$300 !! kind of expensive !!!

You could always try making one!  It just takes on old walkman ( or 
something with a wider head if you want to write bankcards ) and
some simple electronics, a little bit of soldering and ta-da!
Of course you do need the 'plans'.

	Ihor



Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: hes@unity.ncsu.edu (Henry E. Schaffer)
Subject: Tubular Picks (Was: Re: A fast terminological question)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:23:50 GMT

In article <1geb79INNb6p@huon.itd.adelaide.edu.au> sbm@cs.adelaide.edu.au writes:
> ...
>Ithink they're just known as tubular locks. But what i want to know is,
>whats the easiest way to pick them???

  I've never worked on them, but the picks are fairly easy to 
describe in general.  Imagine a tube with a outer diameter just a bit
smaller than the end of the usual key.  Then placed on the outside
of this tube, with their length running up and down along the tube
are a number of feelers, one per tumbler.  Somewhere up the tube there
is a rubber band holding all these in the places, but allowing them
to be pushed up and down (to move the pins within the lock) and at
the top they usually have an L shaped bend to make it easier to
move them and to feel what's going on.  Then there is a handle on the
tube so that you can apply torque.  Also the tube has a notch/projection
at the end so that it meshes with the lock and allows you to apply
the torque.

  These picks are reasonably expensive, usually costing $50 - $150,
but I hear that they work well.  However because of the number of 
different style locks (number of pins and different offsets of the
turning piece notch) one normally will have to get several.  I've
heard of people making these.

--henry schaffer
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: rboudrie@chpc.org (Rob Boudrie)
Subject: Re: Master combination locks
Organization: Center For High Perf. Computing of WPI; Marlboro Ma
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:24:11 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.135725.21554@news.duc.auburn.edu> hendefd@mail.auburn.edu writes:
>Hey gang,
>I have 2 old master combination locks that I don't know the
>combinations for.  What's the best way (including Master's
>phone # which I also don't know) to open them?
>
Get the HPC code books and look up the combination by serial #.

Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: ileicht@jarthur.claremont.edu (Spiff)
Subject: Re: Tubular lock 'picking'
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:23:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.121650.1@acad.drake.edu> sas010@acad.drake.edu writes:
>As far as tubular locks go, I read this in the Anarchist's Cookbook.  All ya
>need to open one is a screwdriver, a sheet-metal screw, and a claw hammer.  You
>take the screw and screw it into the slot with the screwdriver.  Then put the
>screw under the head of the screw (like you are pulling a nail) and yank a
>coupla times.  The lock is SUPPOSED to pop out into your hands.   Mind you I
>have not tried this as of yet, but I have been told it works like a charm. 
>Hope that helps!
>
>					-=Sean
>
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Is this before or after they try and tell you how to synthesize LSD from
what was it?.. wood alcohol and morning glory seeds. I don't know enough
about locks to say if that is right or wrong. I do know enough about
the Anarchist Cookbook to know that a good majority of what is written
it is a load of....

I suppose this would really depend on how thick of a "lip" there is on
the lock it self. It should have a ridge which shoudl prevent it from
sliding out. If this ridge is weak enough (or low enough I guess)
than that might work...

Doesn't seem to be quite as elegant of a solution as picking it either
I'd say.


Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: grnwood@gagme.chi.il.us (Jerry Greenwood)
Subject: Re: A fast terminological question
Originator: grnwood@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:43:15 GMT

> attempting to remember what the common parlance is for referring to
> a lock with a tubular key, i.e. the type commonly used on vending
> machines and the like. For some odd reason, I keep thinking of them
> as being called Chubb locks, but I don't think that's even remotely
> correct - probably just an associational mistake on my part after
> seeing that trademark on an example of the breed.
> 
>         Is there a generic term, or trademark that's become one,
> for this type of key configuration?
> 

hen I was in the biz we alway just called'm tubular locks or tubular keys!
Your right though....seems to me I remember a name somewhere but I can't
recall what it was (we didn't use it anyway).

-- 

Submitted for your approval.....
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grnwood@gagme.chi.il.us                                       312-545-2219
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Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Tubular lock 'picking'
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:03:31 GMT

ileicht@jarthur.claremont.edu (Spiff) writes:
: In article <1992Dec14.121650.1@acad.drake.edu> sas010@acad.drake.edu writes:
: >As far as tubular locks go, I read this in the Anarchist's Cookbook.  All ya
: >need to open one is a screwdriver, a sheet-metal screw, and a claw hammer.  You
: >take the screw and screw it into the slot with the screwdriver.  Then put the
: >screw under the head of the screw (like you are pulling a nail) and yank a
: >coupla times.  The lock is SUPPOSED to pop out into your hands.   Mind you I
: >have not tried this as of yet, but I have been told it works like a charm. 
: >Hope that helps!
: >
: 
: Is this before or after they try and tell you how to synthesize LSD from
: what was it?.. wood alcohol and morning glory seeds. I don't know enough
: about locks to say if that is right or wrong. I do know enough about
: the Anarchist Cookbook to know that a good majority of what is written
: it is a load of....
: 
: I suppose this would really depend on how thick of a "lip" there is on
: the lock it self. It should have a ridge which shoudl prevent it from
: sliding out. If this ridge is weak enough (or low enough I guess)
: than that might work...
: 
: Doesn't seem to be quite as elegant of a solution as picking it either
: I'd say.

Well, they also tell you how to blow your fingers off in one easy lesson.
If you can't yank it or pick it, you can stuff it with explosive and blow
it off.

I agree - most of what is in the A.C. is crap.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: J024330@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: How much should this cost?
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 15:01:41 GMT

In Message-ID: <1992Dec16.113404.9613@ac.dal.ca>
cullen@ac.dal.ca writes

>Note: All prices are Canadian.
>
>I called a local locksmith about re-keying 2 master padlocks
>I have. The cores are medeco 7 pin and they would be keyed
>alike. The locksmith wants 20.00 each for repinning, and
>6.50 for each key. This seems a trifle expensive to me so,
>I was wondering how much this usually costs.

It depends on what the market will bear for your region.  The best thing to
do is get on the phone and make some calls.

>Also, does anyone know canadian sources for medeco rekeying
>kits? I figure that I can do it myself if I have the parts.

When I owned my lockshop (1975-1988) pin kits ran about $200(US) from the
distributor.  A supplier may be reluctant to sell to an end user, but that
is the supplier's decision to make.  I'm sorry I wasn't more helpful.
If you're interested, and can mail the locks, call Roger at 408-578-7313
(San Jose, Calif.) and see what he would charge you.  He's the guy I sold
my locksmith shop to.  He's a nice guy, and is equipped to handle Medeco.

>Thanks for any help.
>                       Mur
>                       Cullen@ac.dal.ca

1  My opinions are mine alone.  They may or   Address all flames to:
2  may not be shared by my employer or the    ccolvin@lmsc.lockheed.com
3  owner of this system.                           Chris Colvin
4  My .sig is only 4 lines long                        ><IXOYE>
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt)
Subject: Re: Magnetic Card Readers - VendaCard
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:58:10 GMT

In article <1giauvINNhjk@bigboote.WPI.EDU> pyro@wpi.WPI.EDU (Stephen D Tomas) writes:
>I just happen to have an HP48sx with a serial cable (rs232) and kermit 
>protocol built in.  Could I connect to one of these boxes?  There are
>other transfer protocols available for the calc if need be.

Well, you might write the manufacturer.  Failing that, the obvious
approach would be to stick a breakout box -- preferably a
sophisticated one with a memory -- in and reverse-engineer the
protocol.  Kermit is probably not going to do the job, though.
You could even ask the library for their docs on the things, but
they're unlikely to trust you not to steal copies.

>pyro@wpi.wpi.edu

	 PGP 2 key by finger or e-mail
   Eli   ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu


Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: sas010@acad.drake.edu
Subject: <None>
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:48:15 GMT

Hmmm, think I better clraify this before I get my ass flamed off!  Heh.  FIrst
of all, I didn't say it would work.  Just that I had read it.  Next, I wasn't
referring to that commercial load of garbage when I said the Anarchist's
Cookbook.  The book I have is an ASCII text file that I got from a friend. 
It's labled THE Anarchist's Cookbook.  Now I am not saying it is the real thing
or anything like that....just trying to clarify.  Any other comments might want
to wait till Early January as I am leaving for break now.   Have a great
holiday folks!

					-=Sean

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Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: So ?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:20:10 GMT

rikardur@rhi.hi.is (Rikhardur Egilsson) writes:
: So how about it ? How come this grout has none (0) msgs ?

It has many messages - maybe your system is rejecting or expiring them.

:  Am I misunderstanding it or does locksmithing = lockpicking etc. etc.
:  ???

Lockpicking is the glamorous part of locksmithing. It is also only a
minute part of the job.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing