HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: evanh@sco.COM (Evan Hunt)
Subject: Re: FANTASMIC SECRET!!
Organization: Stan's Chosen Ones
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:50:50 GMT


Don't blame me, I voted for mcdonald@netcom.com (James T. Mc Donald III).
>IMHO, for the time that you wait in line for the reservations, the seats
>are not worth it.  Wait the same amount of time and sit on the ground for
>the 1030 or 1145 shows. Right on the railing, and closer to the action. Or,if
>you are lucky enough, watch it from the balcony of Club 33. 

I concur.  I haven't been in the balcony seats, but I was in the Disney
Gallery during the first show of the evening, and saw some of the show
through the window.  After the show ended we went down to the railing,
in front of the control console, and sat down and waited, me reading
a book I'd picked up in the Gallery.  (Great store, btw.)  The show was
*much* more spectacular from that vantage than it was from the Gallery.
It was also better than it was from behind the control console, where
I'd been standing the night before.  It was also better than it was
from Haunted Mansion or from Frontierland, where I'd seen bits of it
while walking to other attractions.  It's good from everywhere, but
it's *great* from the riverside.

-- 
"I had generously shown on the stage my interior life as a raging beast, but
 my exterior life as a mediocre human being and dilettante of of normal int-
 elligence remained unchronicled...I *knew* that beneath my work's primeval,
 hysterical facade there was a calm little writer in an armchair just waiting
 to burst forth." -- Wally Shawn, on the writing of "My Dinner With Andre'"
From: matthew@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Matthew Kaufman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Disneyland (Anaheim) Radio Frequencies
Summary: latest frequency list
Keywords: scanner,disney,fantasmic
Date: 15 Sep 92 05:02:55 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu



Disneyland (Anaheim) Frequencies of interest
last update: 9/13/92
gathered from extensive monitoring (10 days total, 1987, 1990, 1991, 1992)

        146.940 (R (-))  Amateur Repeater (CTCSS = 131.8 Hz)

        154.570          Show Ushers,Jungle Cruise,Construction Ops
        154.600          Show Ops,Submarines
	154.625          Disneyland Pagers

Purple  462.575  R       Wide Area shared repeater
Silver  464.0375 R       Custodial / Vending
        464.1125 R *     Telephone Interconnect
        464.2375 R *     Hotel Ops / Housekeeping
        464.2875 R *     Hotel Engineering
        464.325          Paging (some disney tfc.?, mostly other tfc.)
        464.3625 R *     Hotel Operations / Construction
Orng    464.4125 R       Maintainance
Blue    464.4625 R       Security (In Park, Parking Lot, and Hotel)
Green   464.4875 R       Operations / Entertainment
Yellow  464.5125 R       Parade Operations / Pyrotechnics Ops
Brown   464.5375 R       Maintainance
2/Red   464.6375 R       Common / Tactical (formerly telephone interconnect)
12/Pink 464.7125 R *     Fantasmic Event Operations
White   464.7625 R       Trains / Monorails
        464.8875 R *     Operations Secondary (Occasional tfc.)
        464.9875 R *     Events secondary (Occasional parade/Fantasmic tfc.)
        (all 464.xxx channels, CTCSS = 162.2 Hz;  'R'= Rptr., Input +5 MHz)

        208.400 *     Fantasmic Crew Intercom Headsets (To headsets from sys.)

        194.000       Parade Floats Audio (Lead Float)
        194.600       Parade Floats Audio (Alice in Wonderland)
        195.200       Parade Floats Audio (spare)
        195.600       Parade Floats Audio (Cinderella)
        196.000       Parade Floats Audio (Peter Pan)
        204.600       Parade Floats Audio (Dumbo)
        205.000       Parade Floats Audio (Snow White & Dwarves)
        205.600       Parade Floats Audio (Pinnochio)
        206.000       Parade Floats Audio (Pete's Dragon)
        206.600       Parade Floats Audio (spare)
        207.200       Parade Floats Audio (America)
        207.600       Parade Floats Audio (spare)
        208.000       Parade / Fireworks & Tinkerbell Cueing
        (name in parentheses is for Main Street Electrical Parade,
         Daytime parade floats use same channels)

        Unknown frequencies
        several 200 MHz? Fantasmic Crew Intercom Headsets (to system)
        200 MHz?         Audio from pre-Fantasmic Jazz Band raft
        200 MHz?         Fantasmic Audio TO Rivercraft


 * - New finds for 1992

---
Hope people find this to be useful and fun.

Matthew Kaufman
KA6SQG
matthew@b.ucsc.edu
kaufman@apple.com
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From: kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com (the Rev. Mom)
Subject: Re: Beauty & The Beast (Work In Progress) LD?
Organization: CRS San Diego UUCP Gateway
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:53:08 GMT

> snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:
>
>I'm somewhat astonished that Disney would release a "work in progress" version
>to the home market, and that I hadn't heard anything about it before now (much
>less that they would issue it on LD, and at the same time as the video release
>of the "real" movie).  Was this discussed earlier and I just missed it, or is
>it yet another example of vapor video?  "Upcoming release" lists are 
>notoriously inaccurate, so I'm somewhat skeptical until I hear more.

Well, it was mentioned at the San Diego Comic Con by none other
than Kirk Wise and Gary Trousdale, and I put it in a post that it
looks like never made it out. (I'll re-post them in my next
article.)  They didn't mention anything about a videotape release.

--Kathy Li aka the Rev. Mom
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From: winter@Apple.COM (Patricia Winter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Crowds at Disney - suggestion
Date: 5 Sep 92 00:04:47 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Sep1.220822.19078@bert.eecs.uic.edu> artn@bert.eecs.uic.edu (Ellyn Sandor) writes:
>
>	Since there are so many postings here asking "how are the crowds
>at XXX time of year," perhaps someone in the know could get us a plot
>of average crowd size by month/week/day, whatever, and either post it,
>include it in the FAQ, or (for day data) make it available for FTP.
>	I'm sure Disney has this information in-house (as well as
>figures on EXACTLY how much ice cream is purchased per person per degree
>above 60 F, etc, etc), but is it public? 

Yes, it is. It's in Bob Sehlinger's books (The Unofficial Guide to
Disneyland and The Unofficial Guide to Walt Disney World).

They don't quote the source of their numbers, but I presume they got
the info from the Disney folks one way or another.


Patty

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From: ras@controls.ccd.harris.com (Russell Soule)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Kidnapping at Disneyland
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:30:29 GMT
Organization: Harris Controls
Originator: ras@sp1


In article <1768@shaman.wv.tek.com>, andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner) writes:
|> Happened to my project leader's brother last weekend: they were walking
|> through Disneyland with their two-year-old boy, holding his hand.
|> Somebody bumped into them, they lost the boy's hand, and the boy
|> disappeared.  Panicked, screamed for security, and a good thing: a few
|> minutes later they caught somebody trying to hustle the boy out a gate,
|> wearing different clothes and with a haircut.
|> 
|> Scary.

Scary indeed. A customer at my mother-in-law's bookstore told a similar
story. She had gone to WDW with her husband and two children. They husband
and older child were riding Dumbo while the mother watched with the younger
child, who was in a stroller. The mother, who had been looking up at the
ride, looked down and noticed that her child was no longer in the stroller.
She started calling out for him and looked around the area when two men
came out of the crowd, showed security badges, then hurried her downstairs
where they showed video footage of two men sneak up, chloroform the baby so
it wouldn't cry out, and make off with it. Fortunately, security caught the
two men at the gate.

Very scary indeed.

|> 
|>   -=- Andrew Klossner  (andrew@frip.wv.tek.com)
|>                        (uunet!tektronix!frip.WV.TEK!andrew)

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From: tanida@norns.css.gov (Tom Tanida)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Sotheby's Beauty and the Beast catalog
Date: 12 Sep 92 22:42:58 GMT
Reply-To: tanida@esosun.css.gov (Tom Tanida)

The Sotheby's Beauty and the Beast auction catalog is now shipping (at least
to my house it is).  There is an interesting but not detailed
discussion of the CAPS system, mostly to justify why there are no
actual productions cels yet the price estimates are about the same
as the Little Mermaid estimates.

The New York showing of the cels is going to be this week
(Sep 14-Sep 17).  The Los Angeles (Beverly Hills to be exact) showing
is going to be October 13-16, and the auction will be Oct 17 at
10 am, at Disney's El Capitan theater in Hollywood.

If you have your catalog and didn't notice, there is a flip book like
animation sequence above the odd numbered pages of Belle and the Beast
dancing in the ballroom (too bad it's only in greyscale).

There are other interesting things to see in the catalog (other than
the cels themselves), such as the statement that "Disney contemplates,
but cannot guarantee" that this will be the only public offering
of original production backgrounds.  I think they did guarantee
that the Mermaid auction would be the only *background* offering,
although they did not guarantee it would be the only production
cel offering (and it wasn't either, since the Disney Store put out
a catalog of cels you could order).

If you'd like to order the catalog, Sotheby's number is
(800)-444-3709.

-Tom
tanida@esosun.css.gov
From: WTQ@psuvm.psu.edu (Reid Woolery)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Question - The Jungle Book
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:08:15 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

This is regarding the fastfood give-aways from the last re-release of the film.
Here are the questions:

   1. Was if Burger King or McDonald's who were licensed to use the film in
      their advertising?

   2. I know that the give-aways were windup characters but I'm not sure how
      many there were in a complete set. Baloo, Kaa, Shere Kan(sp), King Louie,
      I know for sure were included but how many more?

Hope to hear from someone soon...     -REID-
From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Little Mermaid Series
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:39:42 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

The CBS morning news program this morning featured Jodi "Ariel"
Benson and Samuel "Sebastian" Wright talking about the new Disney
animated series "The Adventures of the Little Mermaid."  Benson said
there'd be songs in many of the episodes, including the first two.
What surprises me a little is that Disney is using the same voice
actors as in the feature--a practice that seemed to go out of
practice in recent decades.  Wright was a real clown: his Sebastian
puppet did more of the talking than he did! :>  I haven't heard this
before (maybe I'm ignorant) but they said there will be an episode
airing tonight (on CBS, of course).

The animation looks alright.  The characters actually move when they
speak.  Ariel looks just as she should, but isn't quite as rubber-
faced as Glen Keane's version.  About the only thing wrong is the
color scheme--very washed out.  And what little I've seen of the
backgrounds reminds me of the lack of detail in the new Goof Troop
series.

Anyway, unless CBS is lying, tonight's episode is titled "A Whale of
a Tale."  I don't know the air time.  It's a "prequel" of course--
Ariel's about fourteen years old (uh oh!).  Looks pretty good so
far.

- Robert Cook
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Closures at Disneyland
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 16:08:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.034315.17144@pmarlowe.uucp> russell@pmarlowe.cts.com (Russell Shanks) writes:
>
>	On a somewhat related note,  I heard through the grapevine that Mission
> to Mars will be closed for good sometime soon (in a few weeks).  Anyone care
> to confirm this?   

The conductor on the train told us it was going to be closing for good
within a week or two.  This was last Friday.  He also said that "It's
a Small World" would receive a major facelift on the exterior, to make it
more up to date.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
From: snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes)
Subject: Re: Disney Homophobia?
Organization: Just put everything on the floor; I can find it.
Date:  7 SEP 92 09:29:56    


In article <37773@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, 
  rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook) writes...

>Nowadays, it's no longer important how a person got AIDS.

Alas, but that's not true.  The teary-eyed AIDS victims dragged out in front
of Congress or trotted out at political conventions to make impassioned
speeches advocating various actions to help battle the spread of AIDS are
noticeably *not* people who contracted it through drug use or "illicit" sex,
but "innocent" victims who were accidentally infected via medical treatment or
blood transfusions or the like.  Like it or not, it *does* matter to a great
many of the people who control the purse strings in our society.

 - snopes

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From: cpg@pyuxf.uucp (25336-goedde)
Subject: WDW at Halloween
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 13:14:45 GMT

We're planning a trip to WDW during the last week in October and would
like to know if Disney does anything special for Halloween.  My kids (ages 4
and 6) are somewhat concerned about missing "trick-or-treat" at home
and want to know if they can bring their costumes with them.  I've called
Disney and they said that no formal special events are planned but what I would
like to know is if cast members at the parks participate by dressing up and 
giving out small treats?  I've got to believe that something special must be
done at the Haunted Mansion!  I'd appreciate any info from those of you who
have been at WDW or Disneyland during Halloween.

Thanks in advance.
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Subject: Re: I am Ariel
From: jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle )
Date: 5 Sep 92 14:59:46 PDT
Organization: California State University, Bakersfield

Cool.  Has anyone ever heard of _Cinefantastique_ ?  I am almost certain the 
magazine cannot be obtained in Bakersfield.  Maybe some art major has it...

Jennifer
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From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Donald in Mathematicsland
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:26:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Sep14.145303.14278@cbnewsi.cb.att.com>, calvin@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (scott.a.kaye) writes:
> 	Does anyone know if Donald in Mathematicsland has been or will be
> released on VHS??  I remember watching it back in elementary school, and I
> really enjoyed it.

 I have a copy of it I picked up a year or so ago. I believe that I have
seen a number of places around here which have copies. I don't know if
they are hard to find in some areas or not. I particularly like the
billiards segment but the kids aren't too thrilled by any of it... 



				gln


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From: betsyp@apollo.hp.com (Betsy Perry)
Subject: Re: Upcoming features
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:24:29 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <37720@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook) writes:
>
>In the meantime, still clinging to fairy tales at the moment, Disney
>might be able to adapt Rumpelstiltskin. 

Rumpelstiltskin is certainly no thinner a plot than Sleeping Beauty.
And Disney hasn't even scratched the surface of European fairy-tales yet. 
Of well-known stories, they haven't done Puss in Boots,
Rapunzel, Jack and the Beanstalk (no, the Mickey Mouse version
doesn't count!), Snow White and Rose Red, Hansel and Gretel...
and there are some wonderful obscurer ones like "East of the Sun,
West of the Moon" and The Black Bull of Norroway that would require a
little audience education, but are worth it .  From Andersen,
The Twelve Dancing Princesses ought to be a natural.  Not to mention
the enormous variety of non-Western stuff...

I'm sure Disney's researchers have the brains to realize what a wealth
of untapped material is out there.         

Speaking as an aficionada of children's books, I have mixed emotions
every time one of my favorites is optioned as a movie.  Gresham's Law
seems to indicate that the Disney version of a story supersedes the
author's original plot -- but we've already had that flame.)  Folk-
tales are more resistant to Disneyization because they're public
domain, and are already available in forty different versions.
-- 
Betsy Hanes Perry   (note P in userid)     betsyp@apollo.hp.com
Hewlett-Packard Company
"It seems to us that the readers who want fiction to be like life are
considerably outnumbered by those who would like life to be like fiction."
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:50:47 EDT
From: Scott Wilson <SDW2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: CAV Editions of Little Mermaid Laserdisc

This is a repost of a message I posted about a month and a half ago.  I have ac
cess to a limited number of copies of "The Little Mermaid".  The are new origia
l laserdiscs.  As the are in CAV format, you can take advantage of slow motion
and freeze-frame on any aserdisc player.  Normally selling for $40 (if you can
find them, since Disney pulled the title a number of months ago), you can get o
ne through me for $30; this price INCLUDES shipping.  So if interested, E-mail
me and let me know.
Scott Wilson
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: black@jazz.concert.net (Rob Black)
Subject: Here it is again, DISNEY JOB QUESTION!!
Organization: Center for Communications, MCNC; RTP, NC
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:31:42 GMT

Hi to all! Terribly sorry to bring this up again since I know it has been
covered in the past. But to be honest, I never read about Disney jobs in
the past because I wasn't interested. So now that I am,


                CAN SOMEONE PLEASE POST OR SEND ME THE
                ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER OF THE PERSONNEL
                DEPARTMENT AT DISNEY???????


Thanks a lot! I do audio and video work snd I'd love to work on a show
in the park or at the studios. Yes, I know it's a pipe dream but what
do I have to lose??


Rob Black                     black@concert.net               Raleigh, NC

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From: andyi@world.std.com (Andy G Ihnatko)
Subject: Re: Beauty & The Beast (Work In Progress) LD?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 05:59:12 GMT

For anyone interested -- the "Work In Progress" disc looks like a definite go.
It's being made by Image and will be out on the 27th.  I got a look at the
contents today...in addition to being letterboxed and containing unfinished
scenes here and there, there will be supplemental material, including --

--  The original version of "Be Our Guest" as originally planned, with the
    castle staff singing for Maurice and not Belle;

--  Preliminary (do they mean "Unused" or "Pencil") version of the final
    transformation scene

--  "The Four Steps To Completing A Scene" (or some similar name);
    mini-documentary on the creative process, I think following the
    development of a single scene from idea to finished product

And I _think_ they mentioned something about having some storyboard there, too,
but whereas I'm certain of the above I'm willing to allow that I may be wrong
here.

All in all, it looks like a good $50 worth of entertainment...
From: mross@mott.seas.ucla.edu (Mark J. Ross)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: WDW at Halloween
Date: 10 Sep 92 06:07:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: LASERAMA, usa

In article <1992Sep9.131445.28092@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> cpg@pyuxf.uucp (25336-goedde) writes:
>We're planning a trip to WDW during the last week in October and would
>like to know if Disney does anything special for Halloween.  My kids (ages 4
>and want to know if they can bring their costumes with them.  I've called
>Disney and they said that no formal special events are planned but what I would
>giving out small treats?  I've got to believe that something special must be
>done at the Haunted Mansion!  I'd appreciate any info from those of you who

A few years ago (late 1980s) Disney announced at a shareholders meeting
that they were planning their first Halloween Party where they would
"spook up" Disneyland.  They planned to do things to the rides and 
facades.  By the next September ( 7 months later ) noone working at
Disneyland would admit awareness of such a plan.  My guess is that 
Disney determined that while other Southern California parks 
add decorations and run their roller coasters backwards for Halloween,
not enough people would go to Disneyland that one day to make the 
investment pay off.  I do not think WDW has ever planned for any
Holloween celebration.
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