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From: mikenews@access.digex.com (Mike Doughney)
Subject: Re: Call-Letters From Hell!
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization:  Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:21:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.232532.10505@gagme.chi.il.us> wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com
(robert.f.casey)  writes:
>Several articles on Call letter meanings have appeared.  I remember a
>station in the Syracuse area: WFBL on the AM dial, back in 1978.
>I don't think the letters stand for anything, and they don't seem
>easy for a DJ to say.  Seems like a random assignment. 

FBL = First Broadcasting License.  WFBL was the first radio station in
Syracuse, dating back to the late twenties.

WFBL's original transmitter site was demolished four or five years
ago, and the station was off the air for about a year while a new site
was constructed.  The original site had a Western Electric 1kw
transmitter as backup, which was given to a collector or a museum.
The building still had battery rooms for the filament power for the
early transmitters.

Mike
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From: jaslow@bissun.kodak.com (Russell Jaslow)
Subject: Re: Call Letter Meanings
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 08:03:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.211829.19137@gagme.chi.il.us> Several Posters writes:
>
>"W" and "K" calls are the result of two of radio's pioneering companies...
>Westinghouse broadcasting and Kaiser broadcasting.
>

I always get a big kick out of the following:
Obviously, everyone knows that the "W" is used east of the Mississippi, and
the "K" westward.  There are only, I believe, 3 stations on the east side
that use the "K".  One of them happens to be KDKA (radio and TV) in 
Pittsburgh.
The kicker?  They're owned by Westinghouse!!!!!!!!!
-- 
Russell Jaslow         |Spec Racer #33 Finger Lakes Reg|NY RANGERS|My employer
Eastman Kodak Company  |In memorium: Andrew Spiller,   |and the   |has nothing
Rochester, New York    |Cynthia Bishop Halstead.  Keep |Cup!  Why |to do with
jaslow@bissun.kodak.com|the damn drunks off our roads! |not dream?|my drivel.

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: Steve Bacher <seb@draper.com>
Subject: Japanese Satellite Radio Programming
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: ?? 
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 07:32:29 GMT

A recent item on APR's "Marketplace" described a new Japanese radio station,
transmitted via satellite and programmed on a 24-hour basis with a 
combination of environmental sound effects, talk and other nebulous stuff.
The programming is generated (by computer, if I get this correctly) based
on meteorological patterns (tides, etc.) rather than the conventional
clock time, to come up with the right music (sound?) at the best time
for listening.  Apparently the owners hope and expect to make a lot of
money on this station - they think they've hit upon a sure-fire formula.

What is most striking is that this is a PAY service.  Listeners sign up
for a certain amount of dough per year to get the satellite feed for this
radio station of sound effects.  (As a cable-TV-phobe, I find this somewhat
unsettling, to say the least.)

Apparently there is little competition in Japan on the FM radio dial.
Tokyo, for example, has only 4 FM stations.  In this environment, it
just could be that people will actually pay to hear computer-generated
feel-good-sounds 24 hours a day...

 - seb

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: jnelson@iastate.edu (Jeremy F Nelson)
Subject: retraction
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 07:43:57 GMT

Sorry.  I must retract the statement i made before.  A law _does_ pass if
it is pocket vetoed by the president, unless congress disbands during those
ten days in between.  I went home and read the constitution, and I was
in error.
						jeremy
From: rholmes@athena.cs.uga.edu (Robb Holmes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
Subject: Re: NBC chimes
Date: 13 Sep 92 03:43:52 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Originator: wdp@gagme

Please regard this as lore, rather than established fact; I'm simply
repeating information I heard years ago, and I hope I'm not garbling
it too much in the process.

It has been said that the NBC chimes (or at least, the concept of
using chimes as an audible logo) originated at NBC affiliate WSB in
Atlanta, which at one time used a seven-note sequence.  The idea 
was picked up by the network and simplified to the G-E-C sequence.

I remember listening to NBC new year's broadcasts in the sixties 
when sometimes the "chimes" took on a very odd, out-of-tune sound.
This sound is now a familiar one to me: the flutter distortion of
a bad cart, which is preparing to jam.

One slight quibble: I don't think GE sold NBC to RCA.  Rather, General
Electric was one of the partners in the Radio Corporation of America,
which was originally a patent-holding consortium of major electrical
manufacturers.  The National Broadcasting Company was started as a
means of promoting the sales of radio receivers.  Years later, when
RCA went belly-up, it was acquired by GE, which promptly unloaded the
NBC radio division.

-------
Robb Holmes  WUGA-FM  Ga. Center for Continuing Ed.  Univ. of Georgia
rholmes@athena.cs.uga.edu  rholmes@uga.cc.uga.edu  bitnet:rholmes@uga
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: SOBCZAK%MAINE.MAINE.EDU@VM1.gatech.edu (Robert A. Sobczak)
Subject:  Re: Feed Info needed for Dick Bartley's show
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Univ of Maine
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:20:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.065251.12358@gagme.chi.il.us>, gutierre@noc2.arc.nasa.gov
(Robert Michael Gutierrez) says:
>Dick Bartley is on the SEDAT system (digital transmission), so there
>pretty much is no way to recieve it unless you have a SEDAT system.
>
>Which brings up a point ...  I want to get a SEDAT card and DATS cage
>to pick up the various networks feeds (like the newly moved Dr. Demento
>show and American Gold).  I hear a SEDAT card is $1,000 nowadays,
>but I have no idea how much a receiver cage is.  Forgive me if I don't
>know, but the old DATS transponder is history now, isn't it, which
>make the old DATS cards worthless also...?

The DATS cage was used with the SEDAT Cards.  Just unplug the DATS and stick
in the SEDAT.  Nothing else to change.  You can also use both card at the same
time since the cage has 6 slots (Fairchild unit) available for use.

It should be noted that DATS is not dead.  SEDAT is just a new technology
that is available to ABC and CBS affiliates.  To my knowledge, NBC, Mutual,
nor any other Networks have switched.  In the case of Bartley and others on
SEDAT are sold the time through ABC or CBS channels.

As for the Price, the SEDAT cards list for $1395.00. My broadcast Supply West
catalog doesn't list the power supply cage, so you would have to call them or
Allied.
*******************************************************************************
 A Friendly Place, WKBW, Buffalo  -  89 WLS, Chicago  -  66 WNBC New York
*****************************************************************************
Robert Sobczak                        **Where have Joey Reynolds, Dr. Don Rose
84 Powers Road                          and all the Good Stations gone?**
South Portland, Maine  04106-1815      Bitnet: Sobczak@Maine.bitnet
If it's too loud, you're too old!    Internet: Sobczak@maine.maine.edu
*****************************************************************************

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: duncan@ravel.ati.com (Jim Duncan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
Subject: Re: email requests
Date: 13 Sep 92 03:44:06 GMT
Organization: KUFX 94.5 FM Stereo, San Jose, CA 'The Fox'
Originator: wdp@gagme

In article <1992Sep10.183104.2506@gagme.chi.il.us>
steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB) writes:
>Considering how many radio folk read this group:
>Anybody ever consider taking request via email?
>

Steve!  

Being as this terminal is at a Silicon Valley radio station, the 
thought has occurred to me in terms of requests or general feedback. 
However, I think that broadcasting an e-mail address from a commercial
radio station with such an idea in mind would be a violation of network
protocol.

From time to time, I get commentary about KUFX, etc. in my e-mail,
which I sometimes pass along to other staff, and this is fine. Anything
more than just spontaneous correspondence, however, would not be proper. 
Beyond that, I have a feeling that every hacker and phreak would join
in the fun and cause problems!  
-- 
KUFX |      w  ["]                            | WA6MBV     
94.5 |...   |___|_____..duncan@ravel.ati.com  | Jim Duncan  
FM   |          H                             | ----------   
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From: kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: Re: Obscenity and indecency on tha air
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:31:21 GMT

Here are some pointers to the law. _Rust v. Sullivan_ (aka the
"Abortion Gag Rule") is relevent because the new public broadcast
funding bill contains an indecency gag rule.

(All these documents are available on-line. Access information follows.)

=================
law/childrens-legal-foundation-v-fcc
=================
A newspaper story saying that the Supreme Court refuses to allow a
total ban on indecent TV and radio material.

=================
law/miller
=================
The Supreme Court's definition of obscenity (the so-called _Miller_
test)

=================
law/rust-v-sullivan
=================
The decision and decent for the so-called abortion information gag
rule case. The decision explicitly mentions universities as a place
where free expression is so important that gag rules would not be
allowed.

=================
=================

These document(s) are available by anonymous ftp (the preferred
method) and by email. To get the file(s) via ftp, do an anonymous ftp
to ftp.eff.org (192.88.144.4), and get file(s):

  pub/academic/law/childrens-legal-foundation-v-fcc
  pub/academic/law/miller
  pub/academic/law/rust-v-sullivan

To get the file(s) by email, send email to archive-server@eff.org.
Include the line(s) (be sure to include the space before the file
name):

send acad-freedom/law/childrens-legal-foundation-v-fcc
send acad-freedom/law/miller
send acad-freedom/law/rust-v-sullivan
--
Carl Kadie -- kadie@cs.uiuc.edu -- University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

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From: lagnaf@camelot.bradley.edu (Jeremy Styninger)
Subject: Pocket veto's (was Bush & NPR)
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 06:50:30 GMT

In <1992Sep2.232405.10353@gagme.chi.il.us> jnelson@iastate.edu (Jeremy F
Nelson) writes:

>In article <1992Aug30.235132.27665@gagme.chi.il.us>,
>rclayton@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Randy Clayton) writes: 
> 
>> Hmmmm, I thought that a pocket veto was where a bilbecomes LAW if the
>> President does not sign it in ten days :-)
>> 

>Nope.  It dies, unless of course congress can override it with a 2/3
majority.

The bill will become law automatically within 10 days IF Congress is
in session.  A pocket veto happens when the Congress is ending,
causing the bill to be completly dead.  Congress cannot override a
pocket veto.  The bill has to be reintroduced in the next session.

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: Several Posters
Subject: Re: Call Letter Meanings
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Airwaves
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 06:50:44 GMT


>From: damian@wshb.csms.com (Damian Centgraf - WSHB Engineer)
>Subject: Re: More Call letters meaning
>Organization: WSHB, Herald Broadcasting Syn., Inc., Cypress Creek, SC, USA

	KRVN AM/FM - Rural Voice of Nebraska 880Khz, 93.1Mhz Lexington,Ne
	KNEB AM?FM - NEBraska Scottsbluff, Ne
	KICB AM/FM - Iowa Central Broadcasting (Iowa Cental Community College)
						(Fort Dodge, Ia
-- 
       Damian L. Centgraf II        | "Take the key unlock the door" 
      WSHB-Broadcast Engineer       | "See what your fate might have in
store" 
 INTERNET ...damian@wshb.csms.com   | "Come explore your dreams creation"
      COMPUSERVE ...70571,313       | "Enter this world of imagination" -Rush

-----------

>From: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
>Organization: The GRAFex Company

lgold@callahans.Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold) writes:

> KIOI = its frequencies are 1010 AM and 101.3 FM

The K101 am side was KIQI.  It is now a Spanish language station.
]...[

Back in by broadcast days I worked at K/ONE in Reno.  It's sister station
was KENO in Las Vegas.  For you non-initiates, Keno is a Chinese gambling
game that is very popular in Nevada casinos.

steve

-----

>From: ampex!newsq@decwrl.dec.com (Stan Busby)
>Organization: Ampex Corporation, Redwood City CA

I don't know if these call signs still exist, but:

WSAP, Portsmouth, VA:  We Solve Advertising Problems
WGH, Newport News, VA: World's Greatest Harbor
WLPM, Suffolk, Va: World's Largest Peanut Market

------

>From: hhaley@umassmed.UMMED.EDU (Heather-lyn Haley)
         
I always liked this one, used by a local TV station in Rhode Island:
WLNE  -  We Love New England

Also, Will, the Afro-Pop host's first name is Georges - I don't remember
the last name spelling off the top of my head, but I'll check. We run
the show weekly on public radio WICN 90.5 fm Worcester.


-----

>From: shearson!bilbo!dmandl@uunet.UU.NET (David Mandl)
>Organization: Lehman Brothers

  Some others with stories behind the meanings that I know of:
  In NYC,
  WKCR = Kings College Radio (Columbia U. was originally called Kings College)
  WPLJ = Wine, Port, and Lemon Juice (there's a Frank Zappa song by that name)

In the mid-`70s, there was a short-lived quadraphonic station here called
WQIV.  The "Q" stood for "Quad," and the IV is the Roman numeral.  I
always thought this was pretty clever.

   --Dave.

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         Dave Mandl            |    Opinions expressed here
       New York City           | are not those of my employer,
 (dmandl@bilbo.shearson.com)   |          believe me.
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: lear@yeager.corp.sgi.com (Eliot Lear)
Subject: A civics lesson (was: Re: URGENT: Bush hasn't...)
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 07:46:25 GMT

In <1992Sep2.232405.10353@gagme.chi.il.us> jnelson@iastate.edu (Jeremy F
Nelson) writes:

>> Hmmmm, I thought that a pocket veto was where a bilbecomes LAW if the
>> President does not sign it in ten days :-)
>> 

>Nope.  It dies, unless of course congress can override it with a 2/3
majority.

A pocket veto only occurs after Congress has adjourned a session.  To
quote the constitution (Article 1 Section 7 Paragraph 2):

	If any bill shall not be returned by the president within ten
	days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to
	him, the same shall be a law, in like manner as if he had
	signed it, unless the Congress by their adjournment prevent
	its return, in which case it shall not be a law.

Does anyone want a copy of this document?  It's not copyrighted ;-)
--
Eliot Lear
[lear@sgi.com]




Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: galaxy.nsc.com!pete@voder.pa.dec.com (pete) 
Subject:  KIIS-FM - Hollywood Hamilton
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: National Semiconductor, Santa Clara
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 08:04:20 GMT

Hello all,
 
I was home in L.A. for the Labor Day weekend, and always look forward to
listening to L.A. radio (since there's no other city with as many great
stations).  Anyway, one of my favorites is 102.7 KIIS-FM and I immediately
noticed that Sean "Hollywood" Hamilton is not on the air there.  I'd like to
know how long he's been off the air there, and if possible where is he now? 
I know that he has a TV show lined up to debut in January.  I also was under
the impression that his ratings were among the highest in his time-slot.  I
know that the station had a bad Arbitron book last ratings period, but I
would think that it would be due to the wimpier sound they have nowadays
(more adult top-40  i.e. WPLJ NYC), especially using the slogan "The hits of
the 80's and 90's". 

Anyway, I find it quite puzzling that KIIS would give Hollywood Hamilton his
walking papers despite his popularity (especially among the coveted teens and
18-24 demographics).  If he left, however, that would be another story.      
        
Any info would be greatly appreciated, since I cannot get my hands on any R&R
magazine these days, and Billboard is no help.

Thanks.

Pete


Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: Robert Carpenter <rc@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov> 
Subject: Old Call Letters
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 05:42:52 GMT

About a year ago the Great Call Letter Discussion raged on Info-Hams. At that
time I went into the bowels of the NIST library and found a list of
broadcasting stations as of 1923 (1924?). There were two curious items: (1)
only TWO frequencies were assigned for broadcast stations, and only one of
them for entertainment stations. The other was for weather, crop news, etc.
Clearly Administrative Neatness had prevailed over whatever was known about
radio  propagation at the time. (2) The last few calls assigned were of the
pattern WAAA, WAAB, ..., WAAF, .... I note that a few old stations seem to
still have calls from this series. It seems that this portion of
Administrative Neatness didn't last very long.

Regards,  Bob Carpenter <w3otc@amsat.org>

Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: news@email.tuwien.ac.at
Subject: Re: Sony SW-77, "old" v. "new" models
Reply-To: gollmann@edvz.tuwien.ac.at (Georg Gollmann)
Organization: Technical University of Vienna, Austria
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:01:17 GMT

In article <cena.716173976@csuvax1> cena@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Kris 
Cena) writes:
> I have contacted several contributors to this net and the following
> picture has emerged so far:
> 
> 1. The "old" Sony ICF-SW77 has NINE segment whip antenna and
>    a serial number in the order of 30 000.
> 2. The "new" unit has ELEVEN segment whip and a serial number
>    in the order of 900 000.

Just another input: I have just contacted my local Sony subsidiary and 
they claimed that only radios up to serial numer 34 600 (I think that was 
the number) are affected. They knew nothing about the 900 000 series.

Any comments ?


Dipl.Ing. Georg Gollmann           gollmann@edvz.tuwien.ac.at
TU-Wien, EDV-Zentrum               +43 (222) 58801/3611 (voice)
Gusshausstr. 25                    +43 (222) 505 68 49  (fax)
A-1040 Wien, Austria
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher)
Subject: Re: Question on SONY SW1
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 00:30:02 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

I've found 1 kHz-or-less tuning helpful in discriminating
between stations. 5 kHz tuning would be a pain.
From: jay.grutman@madness.network23.com (Jay Grutman) 
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: VARS/NPT RI REPEATER CHGS
Date: 7 Sep 92 09:59:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: jay.grutman@madness.network23.com (Jay Grutman) 

DEAR FELLOW HAM RADIO OPERATORS THE VIKING AMATEUR RADIO SOCIETY HAS
UPGRADED ITS REPEATER BY INSTALLING A NEW CONTROLLER, AUTOPATCH AND PL.
THE NEW PL WILL BE 100 hz. FOR THE ACCESS CODE TO USE THE AUTOPATCH YOU
MUST BE A FULL PAID VARS MEMBER. FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION CONTACT JAY
AT 401-849-0092 AFTER 8 PM.
                                                                       
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: "Jack Previdi" <p00020@mail.psi.net>
Subject: Re: WWCR
Organization: Sam Houston Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:59:40 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.11)

>DATE:   12 Sep 92 17:32:14 GMT
>FROM:   Jerry Dallal <jerry@ginger.hnrc.tufts.edu>
>
>Don't misunderstand me.  The postings about WWCR's signal are interesting, but
>just imagine how much more interesting they'd be if the trouble occurred *only*
>during Tom Valentine's broadcasts.  ;-)

	As a matter of fact, someone from Toronto called and told Tom
	he was jammed most of the time in his (the caller's) area.
	Sometimes a bubble jammer, sometimes a wave jammer. 
	The caller spoke to the Canadian equiv of the FCC and he says they
	were very interested. When he called back a few days later, they
	wouldn't tell him anything. They refused to corroborate or deny
	jamming activity. ( I'm just reporting what I heard, without
	comment.)
	---
	
	comment
	|
       \|/
	BTW, I do not misunderstand you. I saw e-mail the address.
	Didn't Tufts draw up a code of "Politically correct/incorrect" speech
	and behavior recently?  I think it even embarrased the Boston Globe.
From: evilandi@VNET.IBM.COM ("Andrew Oakley")
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: AM vs FM in hilly areas
Date: 8 Sep 92 09:12:19 GMT


   So, BBC Radio Shropshire is to loose it's 756 and/or 1584 kHz AM freqs.
This will mean Radio Shropshire has only the 95 and 96 MHz FM outlets- ideal
for home use, but impossible to receive in a car in a hilly rural county
like Shropshire. BBC Radio 3 (classical music) recently lost it's AM freq,
and I can't get it in the car any more.

   Is it just me having a bad car radio/antenna, or is FM useless in hilly
areas? I know all about the line-of-sight physics of FM, but can this ever
be overcome by the use of higher power? What are folk's experiences of the
quality of AM vs FM in cars?

Andrew Oakley (EVILANDI@VNET.IBM.COM)
IBM Warwick, UK (I speak FROM IBM, not FOR IBM)
----------------------------------------------------------
"Shropshire born and Shropshire bred,
 strong in the arm and thick in the head."
----------------------------------------------------------
"Red sky at night- the IRA's set Shrewsbury castle alight"
(doesn't scan quite as well as the original, does it?)
From: james.kelly@factory.com (James Kelly) 
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Web of Intrique
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:40:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-1243v.32bis
Reply-To: james.kelly@factory.com (James Kelly) 

In Message:
  > Message-ID: <1992Aug31.083846.6935@ttinews.tti.com>

Paul Said:

PB> Anyway, I remembered that webs were conductive.  Spiders in Electronic
  > equipment have caused malfunctions.  So, I went into the shack and
  > tuned in several VHF freqs that had fixed xmitters (like repeaters,
  > NOAA, etc) and noted down their s-meter reading.

That's really Neat... Never heard of anything like that in my life.
Had no idea that the web could conduct....

Makes you wonder how they fair in Lightning Storms..

<jk>

---
 . SPEED 1.20 [NR] . Four Score and Seven Years ago....
                                                       
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: G06C000 <G06C@UNB.CA>
Subject: experience with the sangean 818 or rs 390?
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:21:39 GMT

there are a number of users who are looking for more info on this
model. any comment on the sangean's features (advertised cpu glitch?)
is appreciated..............
phil

Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave