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From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
Date: 17 Dec 92 03:13:56 GMT
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute

In article <MUV93JB@heaven7.in-berlin.de> martini@heaven7.in-berlin.de (Martin P. Ibert) writes:
>barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) writes:
>> there is no .UUCP DNS registrar, and I don't think there ever should be.
>> the .UUCP hack should just die a slow, painful, agonizing death, to be
>> replaced by more sane domainized addresses.  (like .edu, .com, .us, etc)
>
>Okay, NOW you are kidding, aren't you? I mean, to say .edu is a SANE
>domainized address must be joke. The only sane top-level domain on your
>list is .us, all other deserve the same fast (!) death that .uucp and .bitnet
>deserve.

>(Yes, I KNOW there is a difference, and I COULDN'T CARE LESS.)

Huh?  The advantage of .com and .edu is that each sub-level domain is a
logical organizational unit.  As such, the administrative aspects of
DNS fall directly within the heirarchy.  This is not so for the .US
domain.  Ann Cooper maintains the entire .US heirarchy.  As far as
administrative burdens, this is much like the .UUCP heirarchy.  It is a
little better in that some administrative burdens can be (and sometimes
are) shared at the state level.  The entire structure of the .US
heirarchy is based on geography, which has no correlation between
administrative bodies.

The .US heirarchy serves a great purpose, but its usefulness is no less
than the .edu and .com domains.

The reason I think the .UUCP and .BITNET pseudo-domains deserve a fast
death is that by their very nature they must be maintained by ONE
central authority in order to maintain order.  (That is to say the
UUCP mapping project, and BITNIC.)  As we have seen in the past, such
centrally-managed systems are prone to fall under their own weight.
Registry in BITNET has been consistently falling in the past few years.
(I have no numbers for UUCP.  I suspect it is growing mostly due to
the fall in prices of high-speed modems and popularity of UUCP software
for PC's.)

Why do you say the .edu domain is a joke?

--Dave
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From: sl9dm@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs,news.software.readers
Subject: Re: .QWK mail reader for Waffle
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:36:31 GMT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Dec16.234809.19007@catfish.az05.bull.com>, pls@cibecue.az05.bull.com (Paul Schauble) writes:
> Has anyone evaluated the Blue Wave packet format? It seems to offer some
> features beyond those of QWK.

I love it! I wouldn't think of using anything but the BlueWave Format!

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From: kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs,news.software.readers
Subject: Re: .QWK mail reader for Waffle
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:03:04 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

In article <1992Dec16.234809.19007@catfish.az05.bull.com>, pls@cibecue.az05.bull.com (Paul Schauble) writes:
> Has anyone evaluated the Blue Wave packet format? It seems to offer some
> features beyond those of QWK.
> 
>     ++PLS
I have worked with Blue Wave and it is much better than .qwk packets.  Qwk's
are more widely supported but I'm sure it's just a matter of porting Blue Wave
to other systems.
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From: mlewis@wplace (Mark Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Latest ISO 8859-1 Patch for Waffle available
Date: 19 Dec 92 16:42:14 GMT
Reply-To: mlewis%wplace@cssnet.UUCP
Organization: The Waffle House, Waldo's Place USA


phil@miracle.com (Phil Hill) writes:
> I'm still on 1.64 using a (homegrown) WINDOWS based reader, so my code page
> is the default one (WINDOWS OEM charset), and there is no 'charset' option
> in waffle.
> Anybody explain?

i do not have the STATIC doc for v1.64 handy but i believe that the 
option is CHARSIZE not charset... here's an excerpt from the v1.65 
docs, though...

CHARSIZE
  Size of characters, in bits, for the current alphabet. Currently
  supported values are 7 (normal ASCII) and 8 (extended character sets
  such as Cyrillic, Hebrew, etc). Default: 7.

)\/(ark

<--------------------------------------------------------------------------->
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 FIFESNet 20:0/0                     ~!duke!wolves!cssnet!wplace!mlewis UUCP
 FIDONet  1:3634/12                          mlewis@lee.cerf.fred.net USENet
 USENet->FIDONet Mark.Lewis@f12.n3634.z1.fidonet.org
                  The Company is mine... The Words are mine...
                   The Thoughts are mine... The System is mine...
From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Feeding mail to a sub domain?
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 18:14:56 PST
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

ed@srconstl.mv.com (Ed Sinamark) writes:

-> I have a question concerning Waffle, can it feed mail to a sub domain
-> i.e. say I am site.feed.com and I have a site that I want to feed
-> thats called someone.site.feed.com, now I've read that to feed them
-> news I would place a line in my feeds file that would read
-> someone /batch=comresss *
-> 
-> I have tried this and it works but when I sent email to 
-> user@someone.site.feed.com the packet just sat in my /spool/feed
-> directory.  
-> 
-> So how do I get Waffle to direct mail to a sub domain?

Read up on the ~/uucp/systems ~/uucp/paths files.

Basically your paths file should have something like this in it:

someone.site.feed.com      someone      (or)
someone.site.feed.com      someone!%s



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From: fenner@snobol.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Upgrading (was Re: From NOBODY)
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:38:16 GMT

In article <oT9NVB3w165w@visavis.uucp> abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins) writes:
|What [UPDATE.DOC] should say FIRST is, "Unzip the
|CONVPW.EXE program from the archive ONLY, 'pkunzip -d waf165
|convpw.exe', so that you don't overwite your existing PASSWORD file!"
|(or... it should have said to rename your old PASSWORD file to
|PASSWORD.164 first!)

Well, UPDATE.DOC doesn't say "unzip the distribution over your working
setup", in fact, it does say "Performing a blanket removal of all your
files will lose your configuration."  So, according to the instructions
in UPDATE.DOC as I read them, you should have unzip'd \waffle\bin and
\waffle\docs, and then follow the instructions further down in the file
to change everything else.

Yes, it doesn't state explicitly "type pkunzip -d waf165.zip
\waffle\bin \waffle\docs", but it shouldn't have to.  The couple of
paragraphs at the top make it clear what has to be done.

[Personally, I always unzip the new version to a different place, and then
copy what's needed to the waffle directory...]

  Bill
From: abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: USENET news <-> Fido echoes
Keywords: FIDO gateway newsgroups conversion
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:19:58 GMT
Organization: Vis-a-Vis Communications [Ontario+Quebec]

tcbowden@clovis.felton.ca.us (Timothy Bowden) writes:

> abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins) writes:
> 
> > But what is so terrible to let people read your echos.  What "damage"
> > does it do?  I found no such "no-read" clause in Fido Policy for points.
> 
> Typically the Echo Coordinator must contract on his own dime to bring in
> the echos from a LD call away, and the rest of the net contributes an
> agreed rate per month to offset the charges.  Anybody downstreaming
> echos to a point would be letting somebody under the tent flap if the
> point allowed callers.
> 
> A point is a point, as Gertrude Stein paraphrased, but a point is a
> board when more than one user visits the scene.  In that case, it's just
> another board scabbing on the dues-paying members of the net.

Allowing people to READ-only is not scabbing.  Information flow is only
one way.

A point is a private arrangement between them and their "feed".  If the
point starts allowing callers to send messages up-stream, then the
"feed" would probably quickly object to the practice.

Personally I see no difference in allowing callers to a point BBS and
READING Fido messages, and allowing people to read the contents of those
messages directly at the terminal!


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From: bob@1776.COM (Robert Coe)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 12:53:13 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: 1776 Enterprises, Sudbury MA

barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) writes:
> Unfortunately, in DNS, having a wildcard MX ... will mean that ALL mail to 
> *.UUCP will go to the one site.  To further complicate matters, there is no 
> .UUCP DNS registrar, and I don't think there ever should be.  The .UUCP 
> hack should just die a slow, painful, agonizing death, to be replaced by 
> more sane domainized addresses.  (like .edu, .com, .us, etc)

Suppose someone were to propose that rather than have the .UUCP notation die 
out, it should be formalized as a "real" domain.  Aside from the obvious 
problem that existing mail programs handle this notation in several mutually 
inconsistent ways, why would it be such a bad idea?  Presumably no one site
would have to serve as the primary name server for the whole domain, any more
than one site has to do it today for any one of the existing domains (.COM,
.EDU, .US, etc.).  You could even allow subdomains (Foo.Bar.UUCP), which are
forbidden under current rules, and handle them exactly as they are handled
under existing domains today.

Normally the advice given to Wafflers and other small, independent UUCP sites
is to register in the .US domain.  A .UUCP domain could function in a manner 
almost identical to .US (with most sites being pointed to by MX records), but 
without the geographical implications.  I've never been convinced that geo-
graphical site names are such a great idea anyway.  For example, when someone 
moves to another part of the country, he may have to find a new UUCP connec-
tion, but why should he necessarily have to change the name of his site?  If 
he were registered in the .UUCP domain, he wouldn't have to.

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From: megazone@mediaone.freeside.com (Megazoner D. Ikonoclas)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: [Echo...wahhh!]
Date: 20 Dec 92 09:44:27 GMT
Organization: Media One Studios


 Okay...got waffle 1.65 and a 14.4 Bocamodem internal...the system is a 
286 XT at 7.65 Mhz.

 Before I got the big modem, the system performed admirably. Now with teh 
14.4, something goes berzerk with my init string.

 My init string is typed in correctly, but when it is echoed back to me 
when I type 'run' at the prompt, this mysterious maverick '1' comes in 
the init string right after my at...at first I thought I had made a 
simple typo..but nope. That wasn't it. And I needed my init string to 
turn off the wordy messages from my modem so waffle can tell that remote 
has connected.

 The current solution right now is that since this mysterious '1' wants 
to pop in after the 'at', I go fine...have an at followed by a carriage 
return (this generates 'at 1' on my screen w/error) and then the real 
init string. But I still get the 'wahhh' message (which irritates me to 
no end). However, there are no problems on local and remote tests.

 Whatever I did, it's fixed. All I want to know is, where the hell is 
that '1' coming from, and how can I have it safely assassinated?


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From: dwrage@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (David William Wrage)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Waffle 1.65 installation problems
Keywords: waffle commandline editor
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:05:01 GMT
Organization: Ohio University C.S. Dept, Athens

Ouch!  I was installing Waffle 1.65 as a door and got everything to work
fine except for one command in the commandline.  

When I do:  WAFFLE ONLINE <BaudRate> <User> LIMIT <##>   It seems that
waffle flat out ignores the LIMIT <##> part of the line.  Could anyone
key me in on this great mystery?


The second problem is more of a problemsolver or simplifier:  How do I correctly install a fullscreen editor and could someone suggest or point me towards
an FTP site that would have such a beast?  Right now I am trying to use 
quicked 1.03 but I have to run a program that converts the waffle information
to a dorinfo type file.  Help!


Version of Waffle is 1.65, MS-Dos 4.01, ProDoor 3.44, & QuickEd 1.03.

Please E-Mail me directly at either :  

dwrage@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
or 
olympus!dwrage@oucsboss.cs.ohiou.edu

Thank you for your listening ear. (and any help)

David Wm Wrage
SysOp of DDT Archives BBS
From: ed@srconstl.mv.com (Ed Sinamark)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Feeding mail to a sub domain?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 05:55:41 -0500
Reply-To: ed@srconstl.mv.com
Organization: SRC Computer Consulting, Hudson, NH

I have a question concerning Waffle, can it feed mail to a sub domain
i.e. say I am site.feed.com and I have a site that I want to feed
thats called someone.site.feed.com, now I've read that to feed them
news I would place a line in my feeds file that would read
someone /batch=comresss *

I have tried this and it works but when I sent email to 
user@someone.site.feed.com the packet just sat in my /spool/feed
directory.  

So how do I get Waffle to direct mail to a sub domain?

Thanks

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SRC Computer Consulting |                   | If we weren't all CRAZY we
19 Sandalwood Road      |ed@srconstl.mv.com | would go insane     
Hudson NH, 03051        |                   |         - Jimmy Buffett
From: tom@spud.kludge.com (Tom Lemos)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Stacker & DR DOS (was: Usenet <-> Fido)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 10:19:08 PST
Organization: TTLF - Free News & Mail System, San Francisco, CA

mvdl@et.tudelft.nl writes:

> 
> For some reason I loath DR-DOS... Perhaps it is because almost any program I
> want to run, crashes under it.... (it is proven to be true that many
> applications hang under dr-dos, because dr-dos is not 'complete'). Also DR-DO
> is about 9 to 11% SLOWER than MSDOS (normal operations and ISR's, I'm not
> talking about compression now).

Really? I run DR DOS 5.0 and it has NEVER crashed anything I own. In fact,
it seems to work better than the MSDOS that I had.

> Besides, don't the waffle-dox somewhere try to talk me out of using dr-dos ?

not the docs that I've seen.


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From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Very Big Waffle bug!!
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 22:44:04 CST
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

dawson@willard.UUCP writes:

> dennis@pete.uucp (Dennis Peterson) writes:
> 
> > I am running Norton NDOS and Norton cache but I have had No problems until
> > I moved the News directory.
> 
> I'd steer clear of NDOS.  Yes, that's just a personal bias.  I have come
> across an example of a commercial application that won't run at all with
> NDOS... Polytron Version Control System.  I'm fairly cynical of NDOS's
> chances at providing a clean environment.

I'd suggest he move to 4dos 4.01, since NDOS is a slight enhancement of
the older 3.03 4dos.  Personally, I've had no compatibility problems at
all with Waffle and 4dos.  (or 4dos and anything else, but I never tried
PVCS)

The cache is quite another matter.  I just added another 40 meg drive to
this machine, and was having vast problems with the second drive.
Somehow, root directory and FAT were being intermingled.  It happens I
had moved my news spool onto the new drive's second partition.  I pulled
the cache out and the problems haven't reappeared.  (knocking wood sfx)

I don't have _any_ docs for the cache program I was using, other than
the sketchy read.me on the disk.  It just came with the motherboard.
But I've noticed that since I removed it, disk access has improved!
This particular cache was very fast on hits, but (I now find) dog-slow
on misses.  I don't know if it staged writes, but I have my doubts.
I've reset and locked up this box dozens of times where the cache
wouldn't have had time to flush.
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From: peters@bsc.guild.org (Peter Sleggs)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Another Waffle bug?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 22:14:50 EST
Organization: Bellatrix Systems Corp., Mississauga, ONT Canada

dell@Apple.COM (Thomas E. Dell) writes:

> >I think this is fixed in 1.66:
> >Waffle v1.66b1 compiled 12.6.92
> 
> I should mention to the other betatesters that there is not yet a 1.66b0,
> as what bill has is 1.66b(-1). 
> 
> --Tom
> 
> dell@vox.darkside.com / Thomas E Dell

You mean its wrapped around already ? :)

Time for an unsigned beta release field :)

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From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle and Share.exe question?
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 19:41:33 PST
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins) writes:

-> mlewis@wplace.UUCP (Mark Lewis) writes:
-> 
-> > you could do this....
-> >  
-> > SHELL=COMMAND.COM /E:1024 /F /P
-> >  
-> > in your config.sys... this is in mine... and yes, i do have a 1k 
-> > environment... the /F is the "important" part... it tells DOS to 
-> > automajikally FAIL on those messages...
-> > 
-> > BTW: that's with DOS 5.0... i don't know if it'll work with other flavors 
-> > of DOS...
-> 
-> My DOS 5.0 manual does not document /F.  Maybe I missed it.  What page
-> is it on?

Cut off in the multiple quotes was the mention that it was an 
UN-documented feature.



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From: fenner@snobol.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: sysman... NOT!
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:14:14 GMT

In article <Fs7mVB1w165w@visavis.uucp> abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins) writes:
|Anyways... most of the upgrade process went ok except SYSMAN.  It seems
|that SYSMAN is hardcoded to look for C:\WAFFLE\ADMIN !!!!!

Did you follow the directions in UPDATE.DOC?  Step 2 says that you must be
in your ADMIN directory to perform the indexing.

My Waffle stuff is on E:, and I didn't have any trouble when upgrading.

|[1] Do I have to keep this C:\WAFFLE\ADMIN directory?  Will Waffle use
|    INDEX in the D:\WAFFLE\ADMIN directory if I copy it back there?

Waffle wants the INDEX file in its ADMIN directory.  If static says that
"waffle:" is D:\WAFFLE, then the INDEX file should be in D:\WAFFLE\ADMIN\INDEX.

|[2] Does waffle access the INDEX file during the normal course of its
|    operations?

Yes, every time you do anything with the password file.

|[3] Is Waffle smart enough to look for INDEX in my D:\WAFFLE\ADMIN?

In fact, Waffle is not stupid enough to look for it anywhere else.

  Bill
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From: jkilday@nlbbs.UUCP (Jack Kilday)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: How to increase speed of communications in OS/2 2.0
Keywords: os2 waffle 165
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 15:47:13 EST
Organization: The Northern Lights BBS, Portland, ME  * 207-761-4782 *

girardi@rniil.rni.sub.org (Norbert J. Girardi) writes:

> For the German Waffle Users:
> Is there a BBS here in Good Old Germany where I could download
> SIO000.ZIP from??

SIO010.ZIP is on my system and available via e-mail.  This is the 
12/10 release by Ray Gwinn and is about 20K in size.  Address mail
to nlbbs!file-server@uunet.uu.net, with body of message:
get \dx\sio010.zip 

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From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: packets->kilobytes??
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:18:13 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...


     Hi Folks! Lets assume, for the moment, that I'm using the default
64-byte packets. How would I convert the number packets (as in the ~\net
file), to the number of K transferred? I was thinking that the formula
would be (packets*64)/1024=# of k transferred. Any opinions?


                              --Jeff

...From a tiny little node called Eternal!
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From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Headers...
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 00:36:31 PST
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

kosta@blues.kk.sub.org (Kosta Kostis) writes:

-> gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue) writes:
-> 
-> >  Buy American! The Job You Save Could Be Your Own! 
-> 
-> you probably won't want to use it - it's not American.  ;-)

<sigh>

The Ugly American once more raises his head in the international arena.




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