From: ksm@abb-sc.abb-sc.com (Ashley)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: The Binding Spell that didn't
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:05:45 GMT
Organization: Kaos Laboratories


In response to Nancy's spell and it's failings......

>Hi,
>I recently did a binding spell that didn't work, or at least it didn't seem to.
>I used a black candle with the person's name carved in it three times, burned
>three different herbs (mugwort, mandrake, & bladderwrack), wrapped the remains
>of the candle & herbs in three layers of silk, tied the whole thing with three
>strings, tied in three knots each, performed the spell on the dark of the moon,
>asked Hecate's assistance, and had the person who was to be protected by the
>effort throw the items in a swiftly flowing river.  The whole thing felt right,
>the person being bound had been causing lots and lots of problems for my
>dearest friend for over a year, I felt certain that everything would work out

----nasty results of manipulating karma deleted for the sake of space-------

>know is . . . What can I do to make it more likely the next effort will work?
>Would a protection spell be a better option?  I've been asked to hex the
>trouble - making, demon-dog, rabid woman from hell, and even though she is
>a really rotten person, that's much farther than I'm willing to even
>consider going. (Course, the way things are going it probably wouldn't work
>anyway) I'm really rather stressed about this failure and would appreciate
>some suggestions.
> 
>Thanks & Blessings,
> 
>Nancy

NOTE: Please be advised that everything I say is my personal opinion and is not 
a judgement on anyone else's opinion and traditions. What works for me may/may 
not work for you and vice versa. The universe is too large an malleable to hold 
only one set of laws!


	Well Nancy, I have had people in my life who have screwed with me and 
I've had to use magick to get em out too, but one look at your herbs and... 
DAMN! I wouldn't screw with that stuff for anything short of murder! Allright, 
first off, YOU need to come up with an undoing ritual for what you just 
described. Clean it off, if you can. 

	Here is the ways I have dealt with things that recently needed fixing 
in my life. Before all of these spells you need to completely remove yourself 
from the situation and be completely emotionless, so as not to let things get 
out of hand.

	1) 	Cast a "Justice" spell. Brown candle, the herbs to burn are to 
be found in most voudun oriented shops. Invoke a Goddess of justice. I prefer 
Athena.

	2) 	Reversing spell. Detailed in Barbara Ardinger's book ("A 
Woman's Book of Rituals and Celebrations" or something like that). Go find it 
and see if that works. Remeber that your karma must be clear if you are going 
to cash someone else's in. 

	3)	Return all the energy through purification and returning 
rituals. Identify it as not being yours and give it back.

	Notice how I did not give you any specific step by step? That's because 
you have to write it yourself for it to be MOST POWERFUL. Also, you should 
guide your friend through it, not do it for her. Now here's an example of 
how I used the last option. (#3)

	Recently some utter fool tried to cast a spell to kill me. It almost 
did me some bodily harm, but fortunately, they where not successful. I 
decided to get rId of the energy they had thrown me by doing a purification 
ritual that removed any and all energy from my sphere other than my own. 
	I meditiated until I could plainly see each person in my sphere and 
their effect on me. I put all of them aside for a little while. Then I looked 
for him and how he was getting in. Once I had found the effects of his 
manipulations and the energy he had put on me, I put all the emotions her had 
cused in me, all the energy he had sent at me, any effect he had ever had on 
me and put all that in a little yellow candle. His color is yellow. 
	I made sure that all the universe knew that this did not belong to 
me and I did not have any use for it. Kind of a cosmic "return to sender". 
I burned the candle with some banishing herbs into a bowl of blessed water 
and his influence left my life completely. 
	The last I heard of him, he had gotten a reckless driving ticket 
and during his arrest the police had found a LOT of drugs on him. He's in jail 
now and will be for some time. This is the result of getting what you have 
given through the three fold law.


	Good luck Nancy and be careful! Write back if you need anything.

			- Ashley