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From: ostroff@Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Mac LC II - What is going on??
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:07:50 GMT
Reply-To: ostroff@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

In article <1992Sep28.095014.10923@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> claudio@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Claudio S. Nascimento;E303) writes:

>1) Quite often, I get the message "application unknown
>unexpetdly quit. Error of type 1 has occurred".
>
>If I run the same application again, it usually run ok. 

Without more info it's pretty hard to say, but let me just make a
general suggestion.  When an application "unexpectedly quits", if you
want to play it safe you should quit from any other open applications
and re-boot.  Many times this will not be necessary, but you never
know what damage the "naughty" application may have done.  Since the
mac still does not use hardware memory protection under System 7 it is
possible that the "unexpected" termination of the application has
overwritten areas of memory in use by other programs (including the Finder)
and this may come back to "bite" you later....

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From: shawn@cars.com (Shawn Connelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Is this the capacitor problem of the 13" monitor?
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:12:32 GMT
Reply-To: shawn@cars.com
Organization: Connelly Automation Research and Services
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <1992Sep25.151004.24601@u.washington.edu> (comp.sys.mac.hardware), larry@spike.rprc.washington.edu (Larry Shupe) writes:
> louislam@iastate.edu (Louis C Lam) writes:
> > I'm having a strange problem with my 13" monitor lately.
> > 
> > I connected it to a IIci and sometimes when I close an application,
> > the screen flashes once and then returns to normal.  It only happens
> > when I close an application.
> 
> I have the same problem with the screen "jumping" on me sometimes
> when I close a large window.  The monitor is 
> one of the newer, low magnetic field 13' Apple monitors,
> and it's plugged into the internal video on my IIci.
> 
> I wonder if there is a pattern developing here?
> 

I think so, because I have the exact same problem. I'm sure that the
capicitor problem was solved on mine, since the company fixed it before
installing it. (Or so I was told).

Any others?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jpm@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (James P Mokhiber)
Subject: upgrade an SE w/ a sick screen?
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 04:41:25 GMT

Hello -- my SE is vintage 1990 2/40, and I have already replaced
the power supply on it.  Well, now the screen has begun to shake
and waver sometimes.  Any ideas on what it is?  My real question
is this:  if I upgrade the computer by doing a Mobius or a Magic
display/68030 conversion, can I just use the new display (assuming
its the crt which is dying now...)?  Any help -- and email -- appreciated.
jim
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: New Mac List Prices
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:04:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: claris.15227
Distribution: usa

The following are the new Macintosh Manufacturers Suggested Retail Prices,
taken from Apple's Press Release dated yesterday:

                                 Previous SRP   New SRP  %Change
 
Macintosh Classic II (4MB/40HD)   $1,699         $1,079    36%
Macintosh Classic II (4MB/80HD)   $1,849         $1,209    35
Macintosh LC II(4MB/40HD)         $1,699         $1,239    27
Macintosh LC II(4MB/80HD)         $1,849         $1,349    27
Macintosh IIsi  (3MB/40HD)        $2,499         $1,729    31
Macintosh IIsi  (5MB/80 HD)       $2,999         $1,999    33
Macintosh IIci (5MB/SD)           $3,299         $2,539    23
Macintosh IIci (5MB/80HD)         $3,999         $2,719    32
Macintosh IIci (5MB/230HD)        $4,599         $3,089    33
Quadra 700    (4MB/SD)            $5,199         $4,219    19
Quadra 700 (4MB/80HD)             $5,899         $4,669    21
Quadra 700 (4MB/230HD)            $6,499         $5,039    22
Quadra 700 (4MB/400HD)            $7,199         $5,849    19
Quadra 950 (8MB/230HD)            $8,499         $7,359    13
Quadra 950 (8MB/400HD)            $9,199         $8,169    11
From: randal@cs.UAlberta.CA (Randal Peters)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Accelerator card for Mac SE
Date: 28 Sep 92 00:26:02 GMT
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada

Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart) writes:

>Look at the Novy Quick 30.  I feel it's the best deal out there, and plan on
>getting one in the near future.  $525 for 25Mhz w/FPU.  16Mb RAM capable, and
>uses the motherboard RAM as a RAMDisk.
or use part or all of it as a disk cache with the
disk caching software provided.

I bought the 16MHz version about 4 months ago and am very pleased.
Speedometer says my SE is 4x faster. The board is very configurable
and as I understand it, its component design even allows upgrades such
as swapping the CPU and clock with faster ones. I wonder why this is
not a well advertised feature, if it is in fact possible? Maybe it's
because in a couple of years the price of a 33Mhz 68030 will only be a
couple of bucks and I can revitalize my SE once again for a fraction
of the cost.

-Randal
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Subject: Monitor flicker
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:07:34 GMT

I've got a Sony Trinitron 19" monitor.  When i got it back in 1987, I remember
thinking how rock-solid and flicker-free the image was.  However, looking at
it now, it hardly looks flicker-free.

A few questions:

a) Can monitors degrade and flicker?  Can this be corrected easily?  Or is
   it just a degeneration of the tube/

b) I've been told that flicker is always *much* more pronounced when viewed
   out of the corner of one's eye...and indeed I find that when I look at
   my screen that way, there are certain areas in my visual field where the
   flicker seems much stronger.  How come this is so?  Does it have to do
   with the distribution of rods on the retina?  Or perhaps the point where
   the optic nerve connects?

c) Has anyone ever noticed interaction between monitor flicker and mesh
   radiation shields?  I've got a norad shield on my monitor, and although
   I haven't done enough A/B tests yet, but sometimes I get the feeling that
   the flicker is exacerbated when viewed through the mesh.  I don't know
   if this is so, or if the flicker is just interacting with my own 
   optical floaters or whatnot.  Any thoughts?


--
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From: jcollias@src.dec.com (Jim Collias)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: -- Mac Portable 4/40/FAXmodem % disease %
	
	For Sale:
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:25:39 GMT
Organization: DEC Systems Research Center


	**PROTOTYPE** Macintosh Portable with curable ventilation problem	

		- 4 MB RAM on two internal boards
		- 40 MB internal hard drive							
		- 3.25" 1.44M internal floppy drive 
		- PSI ComPort internal FAX/modem card 
		- Trackball-type mouse (internal)
		- Original carrying case w/ User's Manual
		- AC charging adapter and battery

		Asking $900 or good offer for everything

		The aforementioned computer was purchased from a former 
	employee of Apple Computer. The machine has a ventilation problem.  
	I assume that the folks at Apple fixed the problem with the 
	production  models, but this one overheats itself into system 
	errors after about 60 mins of uptime with the HD spinning, etc.
	Besides that, the machine works great, is fairly fast, and fits 
	under your desk when you're done with it.    
	If you operate the machine with the covers off (they pop right off) 
	while periodically blowing on the internals every 10 mins or so, 
	it works fine. *OR* get a small muffin fan and stick it where you 
	please.  *OR* part it out for 5 times what it's worth, I don't care, 
	but I don't have the time to seek out buyers for every part, so I'd 
	like to sell it as a whole unit. 

		This computer is in EXCELLENT condition. The screen 			
	is not backlit, however, but is has perfect viewability in normal, 			ambient light, like a big LCD calculater display. There is one tiny 
	line of pixels on the matrix screen that is disabled (this is not as 
	annoying as it sounds, and not very noticable). Nonetheless, this 
	is a good working computer (at a good price) looking for another
	good home....
	
	e-mail replies to:

		jcollias@src.dec.com
From: tom@dtint.uucp (Thomas R. Kimpton)
Subject: Adaptec 4000A SCSI -> ST506
Keywords: SCSI adaptor
Organization: Digital Technology, International
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 18:24:40 GMT


Once upon a time, oh maybe 4 years ago, when scsi drives
were much more expensive than they are now, I built a
scsi drive using an Adaptec 4000A SCSI adaptor.  I
put the 80M Toshiba ST506 drive in an XT case with the
adaptor and had some cables made, and had a scsi drive
for about half the price they were going for.  Now I'm
cannibalizing my old unix box, which has the same drives
and want to connect another drive to the adaptor.  I
already had the daisy chain cable, so I bought another
data cable.  I set the address jumpers on the Toshiba
according to the data sheet and booted up.  The mac
wouldn't see the original drive, which was now at unit
one, because it had the terminator, or the new drive
at unit zero.  I ran the formatter, and it could "see"
both.  I removed unit one and put the termination on
unit zero, and rebooted.  I then formatted that drive
and the mac could now see it.  However there was no
configuration that would see either, or both drives
when they were both on the controller.  This was using
the formatter/driver that I received from Adaptec.

Has anyone had any success getting two drives working
on the same controller?  I would be interested in hearing
from you.  Or if anyone knows the current whereabouts
of Adaptec, hopefully with an email address.

Thanks.

Tom.
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From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Powerbook Carrying Cases
Date: 3 Oct 1992 07:11:13 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: dimebox.cs.utexas.edu



	I bought a no-name black plastic case at the local Computer City
	store for $25, taxes included; it has a detachable shoulder strap
	(big, plastic clip-ons -- like the Targus cases have, I think --
	works great to tie it down on the Yamaha) a regular "handle",
	no separate compartments (with dual zippers) one for the PB100
	plus the PearlCoder dictaphone, adapter plus some mags or manuals,
	the other takes the external drive, the Global Village TelePort
	modem, all the cables I ever need (PB-docking, SCSI-daisy cables
	and terminators of several varieties, phone and power-extention cables
	some screw-drivers and mini-testers, break-out box ...) plus ~3 dozen
	floppies in the BASF-plastic 5-pack cases....

	As they will take credit-card mail-orders for PB100s (when
	they have them), they'd probably sell the case just as easy.

	no phone book handy.. ask information for Computer City in
	Austin Texas ...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: world
From: John_S._Hammond@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:37:58 PDT
Subject: Re: Help! Screen is dead? on Mac Plus

This is probably caused by bad solder joints on the circuit board at the
side of the Mac (the vertical board). There are 3 connectors for cables,
and the solder connections on the connectors sometimes "crystallize".
Solution: resolder joints. One of the connectors has 4 pins, the other 2
have about 8 or 10 pins. NOTE: the crystallization is almost impossible
to see. Resolder 'em all.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Klaus P. Fechner <klaus@sparky.rad.med.umich.edu>
Subject: MC 68EC030 25MHz for sale
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 23:00:30 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
X-Xxdate: Wed, 30 Sep 92 23:04:47 GMT
Distribution: US

I have a 25 MHZ 68EC030 that was removed from my Mobius accelerator when
it was upgraded with an MMU (actually only replacing the processor with a
real 68030). Rather than sending it back for a refund I'd rather pass it
on to someone on the net who can use it. It will do everything that the
real thing would do except virtual memory.

Any takers? Make an offer...

Klaus

klaus@sparky.rad.med.umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: wirehead@cheshire.oxy.edu (David J. Harr)
Subject: Re: Anyone get a Apple Scanner working under 7.x?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Summary: Need scanner driver version 2.0
Keywords: System 7, scanner, drivers.
Organization: The programmers who say NEE!
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:45:13 GMT

Well, for all you folks out there who care (Hi, Mom!), I got the scanner
working by getting a copy of the 2.0 scanner driver that ships with the
OneScanner. This is apparently compatible with both the Apple Scanner and
the OneScanner. Thanks for all the replies!

David.

"Everybody is always quoting other people in their sigs. I don't see
 why I shouldn't be able to quote myself." - David J Harr in csmh.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: antkasx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Ken A. Sturrock)
Subject: Re: Wanted: appletalk printer setup help
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:40:27 GMT

csc_hector@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Mactoes) writes:

>Sorry, 1X9's don't work in most Mac's
>	TI
>        ^^
>        texas instruments
>	TMS4C1024DJ
>             ^^^^
>             1 meg 

I thought Pina's book said that 9 chip sims were okay, and the "8 sim macs"
would just ignore #9....of course I've never tried it ;)

							-ks

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jbirge1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Jonathan Birge)
Subject: Personal LaserWriter Graphics (suck)
Organization: Swarthmore college
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:21:04 GMT

I recently purchased a Personal LaserWriter LS, and while the text output
is fantastic, it's graphics handling is quite weak. It doesn't seem to
handle more that 4 halftone patterns, and the driver doesn't do anything
with grayscale images but print out a 72dpi two bit image. Is there any way
I can improve the image handling of the Personal LW LS? (Perhaps there's a
driver update, etc.)

Thank-you very much.

-Jonathan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: mr@delfin.com (Mark Rosenberg)
Subject: How Negotiable are Prices at Computerland?
Organization: Delfin Systems, Sunnyvale, CA.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:48:57 GMT

I expect to be buying a fully loaded Quadra 700, 16" color display, and
A/UX momentarily. After calling around, it appears that Computerland
on Almaden Expressway offers the best local pricing. (If anyone has any
other recommendations of other dealers that have low prices, I'd love
to hear about them) Anyway, the difference between the price they quote
and the best mail-order price I've been able to find is basically the
8.25 % sales tax ($456). Given how competitive their prices are already,
what are my chances of negotiating the price down even further? For
a purchase of this size, is negotiation possible at all? If so, any
negotiation strategies that would be effective. My problem is that
I have exactly $7200 for this purchase and the total (including tax)
comes up to about $7550.

Thanks for any advice.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: bszeto@netcom.com (Bailey Szeto)
Subject: Upgrading a II to a IIx?
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 18:21:44 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Is it possible to upgrade a II to a IIx by putting a IIx's 030 into the
II's 020 socket, adding the FPU from the IIx, and perhaps exchanging the
ROM card? Basically I have a bunch of spare IIx parts without the motherboard
and I would like to see if I could upgrade my II with them.

Any suggestions would be appreciated!

Thanks
bszeto@netcom.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: steveh@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (Steve Howell)
Subject: Quantums Go*Drive Pin Outs...
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 01:03:24 GMT




	Hello All.... does anyone know the pin outs for the Quantum Go*Drives?

Thanks
Steve H
From: nieland_t@kahuna.asd-yf.wpafb.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Can't mount an EO disk on a REO-650
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:52:14 EST
Organization: USAF ASD/YF, WPAFB, Dayton, OH

I have a Pinacle Micro REO-650 Erasible Optical drive that was a return from a
contractor  job.  THey didn't return any documentation or software, however.

I have blank cartridges for the drive, but I can't get anything to come up on 
a Mac II I have hooked the system into.  The system shows up under SCSIProbe 
as a Sony Drive, but I can't get the system to mount a disk so I can format 
it.  

Any suggestions?

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From: Mark.J..Sisson@p842.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Mark J. Sisson)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Stylewriter NOT discontinued!
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 11:49:59 -0500

  GD> Has anyone ever heard of a similar marketing strategy? Pull it off the
  GD> price list because it is too popular?
  GD> 
  GD> What marketing genius!!!
  GD> 
  GD> I put a lot more credence in the rumour that a new printer is about to
  GD> be marketed with the Performas. Except, of course that it is the
  GD> Stylewriter with a different name for a different segment of the
  GD> market.
 Yes....it's done all the time. One of the fast food places (Burger King-I
believe) pulled their "chicken tenders" out of their ads a some years back due
an inablility to meet the demand with supply. This is just to demonstrate that
this is a well known marketing device used in other industries than computers.
(And by the way, the StyleWriter IS being marketed with the Performas under its'
own name!) So THERE Mr. Know-it-all :)
From: newton@cs.utexas.edu (Peter Newton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Let's talk Performas, Boys and Girls
Date: 2 Oct 1992 12:11:57 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: burr.cs.utexas.edu

> They said the tests were "three applications sure to be used by P600
> users", whatever those were.

You mean they did not state which apps were used!  That's quite poor
of them.  People just do not realize how careful one has to be when
measuring and comparing computer performance.  Lots of factors can
matter-- dual ported RAM (very tricky), virtual memory (even if your
program fits into physical RAM), 32 bit mode, caches, network
settings, etc.  Disk performance is even harder.  It is easy for
results to vary by a factor of two based on fragmentation and where
test files are placed on disk. 

It's easy to just run a program and time it, and that is reasonable if
that's the only program you care about and you are not willing to
reconfigure your system parameters at all.  Developing an
understanding of a system's performance that allows predictions to be
made is much harder.

It would be interesting to put together a suite of freeware apps to use
in benchmarking systems.  Tiny benchmarks to not cut it-- they can
fit entirely within modern large caches.
-- 
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From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: RE: US shop-prices after Apple's SRP reduction ?
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 20:41:39 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

oivindi@dhhalden.no (OIVIND IDSO) writes:

OI> Has Apple's reduction on SRPs this monday (28.09) reduced 
OI> the prices considerably in US computer stores? 

Nope.  Here it is a week later, and when I ask my dealer, all they do is ask
me where I heard this story about SRP reductions.  They say their customers
are all asking them about it, but they--the dealer--don't know anything.  (I
dared to suggest they check AppleLink, but the blank stares scared me away.  I
walked out warily, looking for a salesman up in a tower with a rifle.)

I have a theory:  Apple reduced the dealer prices of their machines a couple
of weeks before they reduced the SRP.  Our dealer reflected the lowered dealer
prices almost immediately, and as a result IIci 5/0 boxes are now dangerously
close to the magic $2000 (US) mark.  I suggest that the reduction in SRP won't
do anything to reduce the street price any further.  The lowered dealer price
already did that.  Now the SRP is just catching up to the lowered dealer price


DISCLAIMER:  If, when Apple lowered the SRP last week they _also_ lowered the
dealer price **again**, then the above is nothing but garbage.  But how likely
is a second round of dealer price reductions, within two weeks of the first,
and without any leaks of such a reduction?  (The dealer price reduction of a
couple weeks ago was widely reported.  No such reports are floating around now
regarding the Sept. 28 SRP reductions.)

--Adam--
 
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From: Joshuas@quanta.cts.com (Joshua Stephens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Apple 4*8 to VGA Monitor
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 08:36:39 GMT
Organization: Quanta
Reply-To: Joshuas@quanta.cts.com (Joshua Stephens)
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: uAccess - Mac Release: 1.5

Does anyone know the pinouts for a cable to connect an Apple 4*8 card
to a regular ol' VGA monitor, I believe it's multi-Sync, but on the
off-chance that it isn't, give me both sides of that story. The 4*8
card has a DB-15 and the VGA monitor has a DB-9. Thanks for the help!

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