From: memon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Naveed Siraj Memon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re Islamic justice
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:29:17 GMT
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From: vkuttikattu@vax1.umkc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Re Islamic justice

>I donot see what you mean by the moral decay prevalent in the US.I have 
>found people more polite and understanding in the US than in Muslim countries.
>I know that the facilities for poor people and handicapped and the aged
>have shown me that the people in the US have understood the needs of these
>people and their need for independence.I see that in the US there is a
>greater understanding for the fact that people are different yet similar
>than in any Muslim country.I know that the people in the US dont resent 
>the fact that a foriegner comes to this country, and continues to practice


Indeed the land of the free and the home of the brave provides for the poor
and the hungry. The social set up takes care of the needs. I did not dispute
the humane treatment towards the poor. The independence rules free among 
people who think refrigerators are living rooms and shopping carts are kitchens.
When you live in midwest, the foreigners are made to feel at home. They
eye you up till you see the blood in their eyes. Their politeness has 
limitations. You question their philosophy their character and just watch
the bubble burst in front of you.  Personal experiences that I dont mean
to generalize. God I hope that the people who thought I was the 
motherfucking iranian do not belong to the mainstream America. 




>I know that a person in the US can walk in the streets wearing  clothes of
>her choice,he can eat foods of his choice and when he feels like , he can 
>change his religion when he feels like, and he can criticize any God he feels 
>like,she can have sex with any person who is willing, he can read the "Satanic
>Verses" if he finds it interesting.If thats what you call "moral decay" then 
>well your are from a different age mister!, you had better  put your mind in a
>time machine and catch up with the morals over here or go and live in your 
>moral paradise viz:- Saudi Arabia .But remember some of the freedoms over here 
>could cost you your life over there.Yes, islamic justice can carve out your
>social customs and your neck.   

This is so typical. So when I question the American
system you are telling me to get the hell out of here. Love it or leave it eh!
I am really sorry to have wasted your time. What the hell was I thinking. Its
been education, Mister!


>I am an optimist and I believe that people will change as mordern culture
>percolates thru education and the media to the people in muslim countries
>and they will change their old and cruel customs for more humane and relevant
>customs,inshallah! 
             >Kunnath Paulose.
>P.S.: Hope I don't sound to much like Mahfool Jafry


People like you baffle me more than Jafry. He is blind but .....  Anyway ..
it really been nice. BTW I lived close to KC for a while. When you told me to
'put your mind in a time machine and ......here or go and live' I was really
reminded of the place.


Well now that we don't love each other anymore :) mind if I sing you a song.
Meanwhile this is au revoir adios goodbye.




There's colours on the street red, white and blue
people shuffle in their feet people sleeping in their shoes
But there's a warnin' sign on the road ahead
there's a lot of people sayin' we'd be better off dead
don't feel like satan, but I am to them
Keep on rockin' in the free world
so I try to forget in any way I can
I see a girl in the night with a baby in her hand
under an old street light near a garbage can
Now she puts the kid away and she's gone to get a hit
she hates her life and what she's done to it
that's one more kid that will never go to school
never get to fall in love never get to  be cool
Keep on rockin' in the free world
We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man
we got a kinder, gentler maschine gun hand
We got department stores and toilet paper
got styrofoam boxes for the ozone layer
got a man of the people says keep home alive
got fuel to burn, got roads to drive
Keep on rockin' in the free world





Naveed Memon