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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Dymetadrine 25 (Mike)
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:19:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Jul22.211912.24873
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Jul22.185537.19449@athena.mit.edu> poo@athena.mit.edu (Claude Poux) writes:
>>Dymetadrine 25 is nothing but pure ephedrine hydrochloride which is a mild
>>central nervous system stimulator.  It encourages the production of norepi-
>>nephrine.  This in turn acts as a mild bronchodilator.
>rob, also bear in mind that dym 25 is not fda approved.

It depends on how the product is labelled.   Ephedrine is an
over-the-counter preparation for use in asthma and as a decongestant.
These are FDA approved indications for this drug.  It is also a mild
CNS stimulant.

I think it's dumb to use during a workout (it's akin to doping
with amphetamines, and probably not so good for your blood pressure
during a strenuous workout.)

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: warren@julian.uwo.ca (A Warren Pratten)
Subject: Re: squats
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:37:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.182033.28605@news.columbia.edu>, arw4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Aaron R Wininger) writes:
|> Also, I've been wondering what the 2 sets of numbers on the Nautilus machines 
|> means? I assume the lower numbers are the true weight, but what are the higher 
|> set of numbers for?
|> 
|> Aaron
|> 

This is just a guess but the two weights are likely pounds (lbs) and 
kilograms (kg).  Is the smaller number roughly half the larger number??

-- 
A Warren Pratten
Email: Pratten@uwo.ca
From: banchy@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (Banchy thomas g (410) 461-2216)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Assumptions of Drug Use by Olympians or An
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:52:53 GMT
Reply-To: banchy@aplcen (Banchy thomas g (410) 461-2216)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University

In article <9207311940.AA17425@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> SSDC2@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (J Green) writes:
>
>actually, i thought the US female swimmers were kinda big! :-)
>(not assuming they are on drugs, just stating an observation! :-)
>
I don't really remember the U.S swimmers looking that big.  Maybe you
have them mixed up with the US 10m platform divers.  Now THEY were BIG!
But in a natural way :).  Seriously, tho, those gals had some killer
delts!  Six months of working out, and they still put me to shame.


-- 
=============================================================================
 Tom Banchy       banchy@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu      banchy@tron.bwi.wec.com
 "babble, burble, banter, bicker...bicker...bicker"  -King Crimson
=============================================================================
From: amelito@cafws1.eng.uci.edu (Amelito Enriquez)
Subject: Re: Arms not same size....etc.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:58:05 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.175259.14359@iat.holonet.net> mlabow@iat.holonet.net (Marshall Labow) writes:
>In article dated Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:30:06 GMT, dss@styx.desktalk.com (David
>S. Spencer) writes:
>
>>
>>How can I get my arms to be the same size?  Don't curl as much w/ my
>>right arm?  I have been treating them equally in the sense of attempting
>>to lift the same amount, but of course the right ends up being able
>>to curl more.
>>
>>        Thanks...
>>
>>                -- Dave
>
>First, arm measurements are normally taken flexed. Try measuring your arms
>flexed and seeing if there is as large a discrepancy.
>
>Second, since the triceps make up two thirds of the muscle mass of the arms, 
>take a look at what you are doing for triceps.
>
>Third, try to do more single arm exercises (dumbbell curls, single arm
>triceps cable pushdowns, etc.) as these will tend to equalize the size of
>your arms over time. When you do exercises that involve both arms at once
>(such as most, if not all, barbell exercises) the stronger arm tends to do
>more of the work.
>
>Good Luck!
>

I have a similar problem with my forearms; my right forearm appears to be 
bigger than my left.  My biceps are not as bad (16 3/4 for the right and
16 1/4 for the left).  I have never measured my forearms but I could tell that
the discrepancy must be larger.  I was advised to take time off from lifting
because of tendinitis (left elbow), but I did not.  Instead, I cut down on
arm exercises.  The only bicep exercise I have been doing for the last two
months is cable curls (I tried doing barbell and dumbbell curls, but my
elbow gets too painful before I even get  pump).  I only do pushdowns for my
triceps (no more kickbacks or skull-crushers).  I have not lost size on my 
upper arms but my left forearm seems to be shrinking compared to the right.
My elbow is getting better and I should be able to work on my arms more
intensely in a couple of weeks.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how I
can make my left forearm catch up with my right?
	I used to work on my forearms only once every two weeks before my
injury three months ago.  I do get a good forearm work-out when I do BI's.
Maybe Mr. ADAM "FOREARM-KING" Silver can give me some advice!

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From: laku@vipunen.hut.fi (Lauri H Eklin)
Subject: Re: Sweating !!!!
Reply-To: laku@vipunen.hut.fi (Lauri H Eklin)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:05:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.152959.5408@chpc.utexas.edu> jbyrd@chpc.utexas.edu (Jan Byrd) writes:

>I've seen in recent years have only a sauna (which I loathe), always with 
>a sign on it saying, "Don't pour water on the lava rocks!".  I prefer the

	Of course you loath it.
	This americanized version of the sauna is just like
	the "king" of beers -the US Budweiser. (Comparing to 
	the czechoslovakian original)
	In a real sauna the temp. is about 85 - 95 Celsius,
	you pour _lots_ of water on the rocks, you whack your-
	self with a bunch of branches from a birch-tree, then
	you take a shot of luke-warm "koskenkorva" or vodka,
	you go for a swim in the cool, blue lake (or a swimming
	pool) and then you take a beer. 
	And if you leave the alcohol away, it is even healthy.
	It's sort of a exercise for your "blood-distribution
	system" or whatever you might call it in english.
	I often go to sauna after a work-out and empirically I
	would say that you relax well in a dry sauna, lay there
	on the bench for about 15 min and then begin to pour some
	water on the stove again, thus steaming up the room.
	Then a cool shower or a swim and afterwards you'll feel
	like being in heaven. Then you can have a beer.

					Lauri
From: loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: arm wrestling/Adam Silver
Date: 24 Jul 92 12:54:01 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <14639@umd5.umd.edu>, silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:
> In article <1992Jul23.164753.249991@cs.cmu.edu> kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico) writes:
>>You've had two men pulling on your arm, and they lost.  Hmmm...
>>
>>So it would make it more fun for me, don't you think...(unless you think
>>you're too much of a he-man to wrestle a woman...Huh?)  What about it?
>>C'mon!  What are ya, a sissy?
>>
>> I don't mind armwrestling women (and other things).  :-)  Ha!
> 
> 							-Adam
> 
> -- 
>      **********************************************************************
>      *               Adam Silver    Powerlifter/Armwrestler               *
>      *           silver@umd5.umd.edu    University of Maryland            *
>      **********************************************************************
NOW THATS THE SPIRIT!!!
Rob
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: stgprao@xing.unocal.com (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: Re: Fat metabolism
Originator: stgprao@xing
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 04:44:29 GMT

>|> In article <1992Jul27.151446.8834@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco) writes:
>|> >>Fat metabolism lasts as long as you are exercising.
>|> 
>|> >Yes, but it doesn't wind down until some time after you stop exercising.
>|> >How long does that take?

The fitter one is, the faster one returns to normal.
The rule of thumb for myself is:
	pulse rate elevated resting pulse for
		less than duration of exercise- very fit
		equal to duration of exercise- reasonably fit
		longer than duration of exercise- unfit.
When I am in sub-3-hour marathon condition my pulse will drop back into
the 50s within a few minutes of an hour run.  Over fatigue or five pounds
overweight will slow down recovery considerably.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: sunny@skylinx.sa.com (Sunny Heck)
Subject: Re: toning bands (Dynabands)
Organization: Scientific Atlanta, Inc.
Distribution: us
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 14:02:28 GMT

I have used dynabands in the past, and noticed
that they affect slightly different muscles than
more conventional exercises, in other words i like
them as a supplement to regular weght training.
our club sells them at $3.50 a piece, but i would
think you can buy them cheaper than that mail order?
they are color coded, for the amount of resistance 
they provide: pink - lowest resistance, easiest;
green - intermediate resistance; purple - hardest,

if your club doesn't sell them, i would be happy to mail
you some.

-sunny
sunny@skylinx.sa.com

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: banchy@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (Banchy thomas g (410) 461-2216)
Subject: Indoor aerobic exercise machine under $200
Reply-To: banchy@aplcen (Banchy thomas g (410) 461-2216)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 14:33:40 GMT

  The subject line pretty much says it all: I'm looking for a *reasonably*
priced indoor aerobic machine.  After reading at least 10 separate threads
on the Nordic Track, I've decided that the features I should look for are
those features most highly touted in the NT: upper/lower body workout,
weight-bearing stance, smooth action, and sturdy construction.

  I've done a little shopping around, and it looks like the machine
which comes the closest to meeting those criteria is the DP Air Strider.
This machine is similar to the DP Airgometer that's been in stores for
a couple of years -- basically a stationary bike with synchronized
handles for upper body workout and a big fan for a front wheel.  The 
Air Strider, though, is designed for a standing posture, more like 
cranking your bike up a hill by getting up out of the seat.  The best 
price I've seen is $189.

  Any and all comments on the Air Strider, or a potential better choice
of a machine in the same price range would be greatly appreciated.
BTW, has anyone else read Marty Liquori's book on designing a home 
gym?  He seems to have the right idea, but only picks machines that
are in HIS price range (i.e. rich and famous).

Tom


Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Subject: Re: Fat metabolism
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 13:24:21 GMT


In a previous article, mduffy@st.nepean.uws.edu.au (Michael Duffy) says:

>I can give you no clues on how long fat metabolism lasts for. I can only 
>say that if you are having trouble talking (ie you pant while between
>words) you are most probably in the fat burning range.

Actually, if you have trouble talking (i.e. if you fail the 'talk test')
you have probably moved out of the fat-burning stage, since  your body
now demands a quicker source of energy.  That's why you're supposed to
keep your pulse rate within the so-called 'target zone'.  The exact
limits of this zone vary depending on which book you're reading, but it's
generally about 60% to 80% of your max pulse rate.
   
-- 
Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., grad student & roboticist-in-training, CWRU

"If God does not judge the United States, then He owes |    My boss is a 
 an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah."   - Billy Graham   |  Jewish carpenter.
From: ekp@mcnc.org (Edward Pavelchek)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Fat metabolism
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:06:39 GMT
Organization: Good place for a disclaimer

In article <1992Jul25.221103.21309@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco) writes:
>	According to my most recent info, fat metabolism kicks in after
>about 15-20 minutes of aerobic exercise.  It then lasts for at least one
>hour, and *perhaps* up to 4-5 hours.
>
>	Does anyone have some more precise information on how long fat
>metabolism lasts?


From 
Exercise Physiology, McArdle  1985, and  Biochemistry, Lehninger  1975


time   Leg energy from blood
	 free fatty acids
0 min  90%
40     37
90     37
180    50
240    62

Fat metabolism lasts as long as you are exercising.
-- 
And if your hand or foot offend you,         Ed Pavelchek   ekp@mcnc.org
  Cut it off, lad, and be whole;
But play the man, stand up and end you,
  When your sickness is your soul.           AE Housman
From: loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: high-protein meal before or after workout?
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:53:36 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <9225@alvin.mcnc.org>, ekp@mcnc.org (Edward Pavelchek) writes:
> In article <1992Jul27.124931.214@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu> loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu writes in error:
>>NO!  Protein does not get converted to glycogen.  Only carbohydrates get 
>>converted to glycogen. 
> 
> and
> 
>>The body breaks down fat stores and converts the fat
>>to glycogen via the liver.
> 
> 
> These statements are wrong.
> 
> Referring to _Biochemistry_, Lehninger  part or all of
> all amino acids except leucine can be converted to glucose.
> Once circulating as blood glucose, they can be converted to muscle 
> glycogen.
> 
> Once food has been stored as fat, only a small fraction (~10%) of it
> can be reconverted to glycogen.  (that fraction is the glycerol to which
> the fatty acids are attached)
> 
> 
> These one way transitions give rise to ketosis, in some way I don't
> fully understand yet.
> -- 
> And if your hand or foot offend you,         Ed Pavelchek   ekp@mcnc.org
>   Cut it off, lad, and be whole;
> But play the man, stand up and end you,
>   When your sickness is your soul.           AE Housman


Ed, I'm not sure I agree with you.  According to Understanding Nutrition, 
by Whitney, Hamilton, Rolfes pg 181-182;  "Protein is broken down to amino
acids.  These, if not used to build body protein, are deaminated, and the 
nitrogen is excreted as urea, the remaining carbon skeletons are converted to
pyruvate and acetyl CoA, and then to fat."
There are no amino acids in glucose to my knowledge nor in glycogen.  Check
your biochem book and post your results.  Thanks.

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*                                                                              *
*Rob Loszewski                      *                   *                      *
*Loszewski_im@hnrc.tufts.edu       * *---***----***----* *                     *
*                                   *                   *                      *
*"It's not a matter of whether or not you have learned anything, but rather,   *
* whether or not you choose to make use of what you have learned."--me         *
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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: mlabow@iat.holonet.net (Marshall Labow)
Subject: Re: Nausea during....lifting
Organization: HoloNet Internet BBS: 510-704-1058
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:16:49 GMT


In article dated  Fri, 24 Jul 1992 22:11:09 GMT, sar@philabs.philips.com
(Sidney A. Rosenzweig) writes:

>I've been lifting for about three weeks. I've been doing seven exercises
>on Universal equipment, as guided by a book I bought. I do three sets of
>12 reps of these exercises.
>My problem is that somewhere between the second and third sets, I become
>very nauseous. For a while, I thought that the inclined sit-ups were the
>culprit, but I've eased off the sit-ups, and still get sick.
>I usually eat a pretty big lunch, and lift at about 5:30pm.
>Has anyone else had this problem? Sometimes I can't finish my third set
>because I feel like puking so badly.
>
>Thank You
>Sid

You may not be used to strenuous exercise, in which case you may be overdoing
it. Try doing just one set for the first week. Then do two sets for a few
weeks. Then go to three sets. After that, add weight when you feel ready.
Also make sure you are properly warmed up. Do 5-6 minutes of some aerobic
activity (walking, running, bicycling, etc.) before beginning your workout.
Above all, don't get discouraged and don't quit. Your primary goal at this
point should be to get into the habit of exercising on a regular basis. After
that goal is achieved, you can go on to other goals. After you are more
acclimated to strenuous exercise, you can push yourself, but take it easy for
a while. Great Luck!
From: ck@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Chris Kiessling)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:20:36 GMT
Subject: Muscle&Fitnes Mags FREEREE
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: misc.fitness



For SF Bay Area Residents Only:


I have almost every issue of "Muscle & Fitness" magazine from March,
1986, to the present.  My wife and I were doing some spring cleaning
this weekend (I know - we're late) and she told me I needed to get rid
of them.

If you want them (or any part of them) and YOU PICK THEM UP, they're
yours for free.  I will not deliver or mail them.

I live in Campbell, and work in Santa Clara.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Chris ("ck") Kiessling
CAD Software Development Engineer
(408) 553-2905                     Hewlett-Packard Company
(408) 249-6225 [FAX]               Integrated Circuit Business Division
ck@dtc.hp.com                      Santa Clara, California 95052
From: roberts@phoenix.ocf.llnl.gov (Don Roberts)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: MY MATCHES! (was Re: LOOK at what Art Wittmann did to...)
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:29:22 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

In article <14625@umd5.umd.edu> silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:

>Here are some possible matches for me:
>
>Claude Poux (poo@athena.mit.edu)
>Aleck Alexopoulos (aleck@athena.mit.edu)--over 17" arms
>Robert Cryan Jr (ia00078@maine.maine.edu)
>Ron Cecchini (cecchinr@berra.cs.rpi.edu)
>Rob Loszewski (loszewski_im@hnrc.tufts.edu)
>Art Wittman (wittmann@engr.wisc.edu)--before Boston
>
>Anyone else?  I need the practice.
>
>							-Adam

When all you sissies Back East have finished stroking your egos, you can
come out here and tackle some Real Men, Adam!!

...excuse me, while I go line up a good orthopedic surgeon :)

-- Don (16.5625" arms) Roberts
--
   Don Roberts
   dwr@llnl.gov
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: chuck@anchovie.ssd.kodak.com (Charles S. Collins 726-9461)
Subject: Re: proper form for hanging leg raises
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 19:20:36 GMT

In article <9207301429.AA17107@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> SSDC2@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (J Green) writes:
>>From: jfjr@mbunix.mitre.org (Freedman)
>>Subject: proper form for hanging leg raises
>>
>>    As part of my ab routine I do hanging leg raises - legs straight
>>until failure then I bend at the knees for a few extra. I don't think
>>I am doing them right - feels like I am working my hips more than my
>>abs. Any advice??
>
>*CONCENTRATE* on using your abs! ;-)
>(it's easy to use the hips if you don't concentrate on using abs!)
>

It also helps to hang "still" after every rep.  This helps to cut down
on any tendency to swing from one rep to the next, aka "cheating."



-- 
Chuck Collins				Product Software Engineering
chuck@pixel.kodak.com			Eastman Kodak Company
(716)726-9461				901 Elmgrove Road
					Rochester, NY  14653-5811
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: stedee@auto-trol.com (Steve Deemer)
Subject: Question on Universal
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:59:09 GMT

The gym I work out at isn't equipped with free weights, so I use
a Universal machine for most of my weight lifting.  Several of the
stations on the Universal, such as the bench press and military
press, have two weights marked on the weight stack, one presumably
for the low end and one for the high end.  The question is: which
of the two weights corresponds more closely to free weights?  Is
ten reps at 100 lbs. marked at the low end on the bench press
station equivalent to ten reps at 100 lbs. with free weights?

I haven't been able to find any kind of reference that addresses
Universal machines specifically.  Everything I've seen is specific
to free weights, and I'm wondering with the differences are.  Reading
the various weight training routines that have been posted recently,
I'm starting to feel pretty wimpy in comparison.  Can anyone out there
prop up my sagging self-esteem?


______________________________________________________________________________
Steven Deemer                 "They say a boy should tire of being a creep and
stedee@auto-trol.COM           should sit quietly and ask Respectability to
                               lead him away.  But when Respectability comes to
                               me I will fight it and I, Eddie Haskell, I will
                               tear the letters off its very sweater!"
From: amelito@cafws1.eng.uci.edu (Amelito Enriquez)
Subject: Re: Ravenous appetite among lifters
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:57:02 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.143350.13693@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco) writes:
>
>I realize that exercise can crank up a guy's appetite, but I wonder if my
>increased eating might not also be due to other factors (such as stress
>and outright greediness).  I only weigh about 132 lbs., but I've found
>myself consuming about 2600 cals over the past week.  Considering that I
>have a layer of fat around my midriff that I'd like to get rid of, I
>find this a little disturbing.  I've become pretty well-muscled, but I'm
>hardly bulging with muscles yet.  I also walk a lot every day, and jog
>probably about twice a week. 
>
>Any comments?  How much do you guys weigh, how many cals do you consume,
>and how well-built are you (modesty aside)?  Also, how active is your
>lifestyle?  All these factors, of
>course, should be taken into consideration.
>
	I would think that your increased calorie in-take is due mainly to 
increased physical activity.  Before I started working-out regularly (this
was four years ago), I used to eat three "regular" meals a day.  Nowadays, 
I need to eat constantly throughout the day--needing six to seven "good" meals
a day just to maintain my weight.  I suggest that you continue with your eating
habits and monitor your progress (weight, how "fat" or "ripped" you look, etc.)
for a few weeks and modify your habits according to how your body responds.
I guess we have completely opposite problems since I find eating to be such a
"chore".
	I do not know exactly how many calories I consume everyday, but I would
say that it is between 3000 and 3500.  I am 5'2" tall (short!) and I have been
at 150 lbs for the last 5 or 6 months.  I was over 50 lbs lighter when I was
consuming about half of my current calorie in-take.


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From: kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico)
Subject: arm wrestling/Adam Silver
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 16:47:53 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Originator: kji@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU

You've had two men pulling on your arm, and they lost.  Hmmm...

So it would make it more fun for me, don't you think...(unless you think
you're too much of a he-man to wrestle a woman...Huh?)  What about it?
C'mon!  What are ya, a sissy?

(My elbow's on the table)
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