From: underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe)
Subject: Re: What is real racism? (Re: Was: Why rish asians should vote Republican)
Organization: Miners for a Heart of Gold
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 05:19:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.022400.2558@hspice.portal.com> georgew@hspice.portal.com (George Wu) writes:
>You hate based upon upbringing.

I've never met Mr. Wu and have never revealed virtually nothing about
my background on this network.  Or does Mr. Wu, like many other Chinese-cu,
claim to be endowed with the ability to read minds?

>Others hate based upon skin color.  Who cares why, you're both
>guilty of raw bigotry.

First off, I never said that I hate Chinese-ge (people who are genetically
Chinese).  Second, the only thing that I've said is that I condemned Chinese-cu
(i.e. culturally Chinese sense) culture.

Culture is behavior.  Condemnation of behavior is justified if that 
behavior is morally reprehensible.  Mr. Danielle T. Wei condemns on the
basis of skin color.  There is a significant difference.

>How can you despise a man you've never even met, conversed, or even observed?

And then, Mr. Wu translates my condemnation of Chinese culture into
"hating a man without knowing him".

Yes, Chinese-cu people do things like that, I suppose.

>     China Airlines does not represent the whole of China, or even a
>significant segment thereof.

In the United States, if American Airlines implemented the same
bigotted policy as China Airlines, most Americans would vehemently
condemn American Airlines, possibly resulting in the resignation of
the chairman of American Airlines.

Even though China Airlines, run by Chinese-cu folks, has implemented
the policy of only hiring flight attendants (1) who are virgins and
(2) whose skin is not too dark (i.e. no blacks need apply), there has
been _no_ uproar of condemnation anywhere in Asia.  I take this
as very good indication that those people think it's fine and dandy
to discriminate in this way.

>     Hatred of a genetic group, a cultural group, or even a poltical group,
>are all the same.  You don't know every member of the group.  You don't
>understand each one.  You just hate them.

Let's apply Mr. Wu's reasoning to Nazism, a virulent subculture of
Western society, and the Khmer Rouge, a political group.

Then, Mr. Wu basically says, "Hatred of African-Americans, Nazis, or even
the Khmer Rouge are all the same.  You don't know every member of the group.
You just hate them all."

Yes.  Mr. Wu would not condemn Nazism or the Khmer Rouge.  I agree with that.

I, however, do condemn Nazism and the Khmer Rouge.  Condemning a culture is,
in no way, the same as condemning someone because she has black skin.  Mr.
Wu thinks so.  I don't.

Condemning a person solely on the basis of his skin color is sheer
bigotry and racism.  Condemning a horribly misguided culture is not
bigotry.

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