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From: bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: What is a good travel agency in Austin?
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:05:55 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc. --Austin

Tramex Travel did a good job booking my trip to Mongolia this past
summer.  'Course it might have helped that I was with a guy who they've
got on retainer to do their advertising but they seemed nice enough
when I was over there...

Brendan
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From: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com (Craig Becker)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: accepting risk (was speed traps on 2222)
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:21:50 GMT
Reply-To: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com
Distribution: austin
Organization: IBM Object Technology Products
Originator: jlpicard@woofer.austin.ibm.com


aqn@tivoli.UUCP (Andy Nguyen) writes:
> joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner) writes:
> > proof positive that higher education DOESN'T work. the age old fallacy of 
> > public burden rears its ignorant head, motorcyclists are a medical blight 
> > on society.
> 
> jlpicard@austin.ibm.com wrote:
> >On the contrary, motorcyclists are a major asset to the medical 
> >industry. Motorcyclists are a major supply of spare organs and
> >tissue for various&sundry transplant operations. In fact, police
> >in the Chicago, IL area refer to motorcycles as "donorcycles" 
> >for just this reason (ref: _What Cops Know_ and _Pure Cop_ by
> >Connie Fletcher).
> 
> Which goes to show how severely misguided the general public and the
> law enforcement crowd are. ("There are three kinds of lies:  lies, damn lies,
> and statistics!")            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Mark Twain, I believe.

> a.  "Medical blight:"  the _number_ of incapacitating accidents (not talking
> 	about fatal accidents here;  wouldn't be fair;  not gonna do it) are
> 	far higher with automobiles than with motorcycles; sheer number has a lot
> 	to do with it.  (True, _percentage_ wise, the numbers look bad for
> 	motorcycles.)
> 	"Medical blight on society:"  the few times that I fell off my bike and
> 	wound up in the hospital, I did not get a free ride (no pun),
> 	financially speaking;  I paid for my own mistakes, with cash and with other
> 	intangibles (like not being able to wear long-sleeved shirts for a
> 	while =|-).
> 	How was I a "blight on society?"  This is just another bureaucratic
> 	knee-jerk response from the insurance lobby and their favorite pet,
> 	the NHTSA.
> 
> b.	"Asset to the medical industry," "donorcycles:"  again, in absolute
> 	numbers, the issue is highly insignificant.

Andy, do you have any references to back up your statements?

> Basically, people just can't stand seeing others having fun & endangering
> their own lives (and no one else's).

While I certainly agree that such people are out and about, I'm not one of
them (despite my sarcastic comments that might lead one to believe the contrary).
Have you ever read P.J. O'Rourke's essay on "Safety Nazis"? Or better yet, his
classic "How to drive fast on drugs while getting your wingwang squeezed and not
spill your drink"?

:-)

Craig
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From: tsmith@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Terry Smith)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Georgetown House for Rent
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:54:34 GMT
Reply-To: tsmith@mpd.tandem.com (Terry Smith)
Distribution: austin
Organization: Tandem Computers; Austin TX
Originator: tsmith@trazom


As of Dec 1, I will have an 1800 sq ft house for rent
in Georgetown. It's a three-bedroom, 60ish kind of place
on a corner lot in an older neighborhood. It's 1 block
from an elementary school, 5 blocks from Southwestern Univ.
Fenced backyard w/treehouse. Pets allowed. Great kid
neighborhood. Rent $850. Call 869-2638.
Newsgroups: austin.general
From: petonic@hal.com (Michael A. Petonic)
Subject: Re: Romantic places to eat in Austin
Organization: Henry's Laughing Gas Co., Inc.
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Distribution: austin
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:12:50 GMT

In article <1ec4j5INNolv@im4u.cs.utexas.edu> almstrum@cs.utexas.edu (Vicki L. Almstrum) writes:
>Jean-Pierre's Upstairs (Roosevelt and 35th St.; great salt and pepper shaker
>                        collection!!)

Not to mention the bottle of Dom iced down in the Men's urinal.  No kidding.

-pet-
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Newsgroups: austin.general
From: bparker@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Bruce Parker)
Subject: Recommendation wanted: Architect/Home Remodeling Contractor
Summary: Recommendation
Keywords: Recommendation
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:50:28 GMT

This is a request for recommendations of local architects and/or home
remodeling contractors.  

I currently have a screened in backyard porch which I must convert to a room
for my father-in-law.  He is wheel-chair bound, so any recommendations on
people who have experience with handicap design would be greatly
appreciated.

Also, anyone have thoughts as to whether I should go to an architect first,
or just plan it myself as much as possible and get bids from local
contractors?

email or post is fine.
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From: anita@ut-emx.uucp (Anita Cochran)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: Exterior House Painter recommendations
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:21:06 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin

In article <1992Nov17.001024.21584@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> chukran@austin.vnet.ibm.com(Rudy Chukran) writes:
>Can anyone recommend one? Im leaning more toward the "good price" rather than
>"does an excellent job". It's time to sell that extra house I no longer
>want.

I heartily recommend Jack Williams of Williams Painting and Decorating.
His phone number is 443-9670 (if no answer call 282-9528).  He not
only has good prices, he does an excellent job.  Of course you know, winter
is not the best time to paint the exterior of a house since the weather
will often hold up the job.  

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From: dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com (Dewey Coffman)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: What is a good travel agency in Austin?
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:34:03 GMT
Reply-To: dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM, Austin, TX. US of A.


	Round Rock Travel is good, and they're open on Saturdays till noon.
	Ask for Cyndi 255-4011
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From: bryan@cs.utexas.edu (Bryan Bayerdorffer)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: What is a good travel agency in Austin?
Date: 15 Nov 1992 13:59:56 -0600
Organization: Spam Detection & Removal Squad, Austin, TX
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I highly recommend Wayne Thompson.  He is an independent agent who works in the
evening, and can be reached at 327-9736.

Newsgroups: austin.general,ut.general
From: dow@mcc.com (David Dow)
Subject: Gem and Mineral Show this weekend
Organization: MCC, Austin, TX
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:58:29 GMT



              The Austin Gem and Mineral Society 

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                Palmer Auditorium, Lower Level
              400 S. First St., at Riverside Dr.
                     Austin, Texas


              November 20 & 21         November 22
                10AM - 8PM             10AM - 6PM


             Friday is CHILDREN'S DAY (10AM - 4PM)

             See a Moon Rock brought back by NASA!

             Jewelry            Gem Stones
             Faceting           Gem and Mineral Exhibits
             Gem Mine           Stone Identification
             Fossils            Lapidary Supplies
             Minerals           Working Demonstrations

                Great source of Holiday gifts!


             Children (Ages 6-12)           $  .50
             Young Adults (Ages 13-18)      $ 1.00
             Adults                         $ 3.00
             Senior Citizens (60 and over)  $ 2.00
             Pass for ALL 3 days            $ 5.00


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             For More Information:  (512) 458-9546
                                    (512) 255-4621
                                    (512) 837-1946

             OR contact David Dow   (512) 338-3777
                          email     dow@mcc.com

              The Austin Gem and Mineral Society is
              a non-profit association working to 
              increase interest in the earth sciences.

              Proceeds support the Society and 
                Earth Science Scholarships
            
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Newsgroups: austin.general
From: mmaster@parnasus.dell.com (Michael Masterson)
Subject: Re: Needed : Laser Disks Rental information
Organization: Dell Computer Co
Distribution: austin
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 07:08:52 GMT

cmc@cs.utexas.edu (Chi Ming Cheung) writes:


>The only place I know that rents LD's is Video Central at Braker.  Can someone
>provide the names of other LD renters?

Video Station at 620 & 183 has a large video disk selection.  many
times as many as video central... but they want more for the rentals.
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From: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com (Craig Becker)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: PUC: Caller ID illegal
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:57:43 GMT
Reply-To: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com
Distribution: austin
Organization: IBM Object Technology Products
Originator: jlpicard@woofer.austin.ibm.com


dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com (Dewey Coffman) writes:
> In article <1992Nov17.155715.26466@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, mbrown@testsys.austin.ibm.com (Mark Brown) writes:
> |> The privacy issue is a smokescreen for the real reason Bell wants Caller
> |> ID:
> |> 
> ..
> |> ...and *we'd* pay for the privilege! Think how many times you'd use CID
> |> to 'screen' calls, or how many numbers you'd remember at a glance,
> |> compared to the utility that, say, First Bank would receive...
> 
> 	You don't have to remember Phone Numbers, the little Caller ID
> 	boxes allow you to input names associated with the number OR
> 	plug it into you PeeCee and when the phone rings, you get all
> 	the same info on them(assuming they've called before and you
> 	logged the info into YOUR database).

Hmmm...I think also that one of the proposed schemes displayed the caller's
name instead of their phone number; I guess the name comes from some kind
of on-line phone directory at the PhoCo.

> 	...I *think* part of
> 	the deal with Caller ID is that anyone can turn off there number when
> 	they call(regardless of whether you've subscribed).

I do believe that you are correct. Else you'd probably notice a big reduction
in the number of "Personal" ads in the Austin Chronicle :-)

Craig
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From: shoroff@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Srihari Shoroff)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: PUC: Caller ID illegal
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:32:23 GMT
Distribution: austin
Organization: Univ of Texas at Austin

In article <1992Nov12.171104.9358@oakhill.sps.mot.com> brucel@oakhill.sps.mot.com writes:
>Making Caller ID illegal is good news to me.  I was very concerned about
>the invasion of privacy involved.  So concerned, in fact, that I asked to

Whose privacy? I guess you'd say the caller's. But if a free blocking 
facility is available how does it affect the caller's privacy? (I'm not
sure if SWbell's proposal included a blocking facility, but it should)
It just provides the recepient of the call with some information about
the caller(if the caller doesnt mind) before he decides to waste his 
time picking up the phone(and get annoyed by telemarketers etc). Its nothing
different from the peephole you have on your front door. You should have the
right to know who is standing there before you open the door for him. If the
guy outside doesnt want to let his identity be known he's within his rights
to block the peephole by placing his thumb on it, but you're perfectly within
your rights to refuse to open the door for him. Would you consider this an
invasion of privacy of the person who's knocking on the door? CallerID 
limits its "resolution" to just identifying the number and not the person
*actually* on the phone but I dont see why it should give privacy advocates
nightmares. I've seen some discussion on this topic in some other groups,
but I never seem to understand why privacy advocates are so reluctant to
forfeit their right to call people anonymously.
 
>intervene.  I think the technology has some applications but Southwestern
>Bell is being very cavalier about the rights of its users.  A monopoly should
>not have "making a buck" as the only criteria for its actions.
>
>Bruce A. Loyer

I dont think "making a buck" is an issue at all. There are hordes of customers
who'd give anything to stop all those annoying calls. CallerID just gives 
users a little more control over the phone in their house.  

I surely dont think the tel.co. should be insensitive to the rights of the 
caller either. Per-call-blocking is absolutely essential, and I'd like a
an extra option available to the caller by which he can turn off callerID on
his telephone by *default*, not needing to make an extra effort to prevent
callerID. If the telco is stubborn about not giving these rights to callers
you can accuse the telco, and you might be right. If you dont want to let
callerID give out your identity, more power to you, just dont believe the 
recepient is obligated to pick it up!

Srihari



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From: benedict@chaos.utexas.edu (Thomas Benedict)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Motorcycles in general
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:39:57 GMT
Distribution: austin
Organization: Center for Nonlinear Dynamics, University of Texas at Austin

I've got a question for people:  Someone in one of my classes had his
bike vandalized.  It was knocked over, and "Riceburner" was
spray-painted on it.  (He rides a Yamaha.)

Now I'm having similar problems.  During Halloween I found my bike
with a bent tailpipe, a bent brake handle, and a messed-up throttle.
After repairing the superficial stuff, I found out that my electrical
system was damaged.  I worked on it for about 7 or 8 hours, replaced a
$45 relay, got two days of driving in, and had my tire punctured.  I'm
not a rich fellow, so it was going to take me a while to fix my tire.
THIS time, even before I got it fixed, while I've got a flat, I came
home one night and found my bike turned over.  (I was glad at the time
that I hadn't bought any gas for it in a while!)

My question is this:  Why are people fascinated by motorcycles?  Why
do they feel the need to knock them over?  Why do people need to bash
on them with heavy, blunt objects and spraypaint on them?  As has been
pointed out repeatedly in previous discussions, motorcyclists must,
Must, MUST be absolutely sure that their machine is in good working
order, lest something go wrong at 55MPH and the front brake lock up
suddenly.  Why do people feel the need to ramp up the odds against
motorcyclists?

Tom Benedict
benedict@chaos.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin

P.S.  You know, it's funny, but in my first posting about the 2222
deal, what I meant was that I don't ride on 2222 because of the many
roads in Austin, it has lots of accidents.  Of the roads in Austin
that have lots of accidents, the ones on Mopac and 2222 are relatively
fatal when compared to the others.  On Mopac there is a place for a
bike to run to if something comes hurtling out of control at it, while
on 2222 there is almost no place to run.  I've driven on Mopac.  I've
driven on I-35.  When that truck jack-knifed behind me on I-35 and
came hurtling out of control at me, there was space to run to.  It
came within half a foot of my knee, and took out four cars, blocking
every lane but one.  Even so I still ride on I-35 because even with
the accidents, even with my own experience, I know that there is a
place to run.  I don't ride on 2222 because I don't feel safe there.

It's been enlightening to find out all of the statistics regarding
motorcycles (I'll still ride mine as soon as I repair the vandalism
damage), and it's been interesting seeing everyone's viewpoint (even
the ones who called me a weenie-wimp for not slamming down 2222 as
fast as my engine will take me).  But I'll still use my own acid-test
when deciding what roads to ride on:  Assuming something comes
hurtling at me, totally out of control, will I survive?
From: san@mpd.tandem.com (Steve Sanderson)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: homeless on street corners
Keywords: homeless
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:50:50 GMT
Distribution: austin

I also have gone through angst on what to do, if anything, with the
homeless people.  I agree with one posting about helping out with
organizations that help the homeless, and I have done so.  Despite this,
though, I still have felt the need for more of a personal response to
these people.

I too have heard the stories of con artists, people unwilling to work
despite their signs, not "enabling" this behavior, etc...  Finally, I
decided that
I would never be able to get inside any of these peoples head well enough
to judge their situation, and even if I did, who was I judge?

As a result, I followed my heart (and my gut) and when it's felt right
I reached out to these individuals personally.  Sometimes a little money,
sometimes with some food I may have handy.  Regardless of their situation,
I've been fortunate to have my needs taken care of and sharing some of that
feels right.

Originally, I was scared and intimidated that approaching these people
would be stange, risky or actually harmful.  Though it sometimes felt like
a risk, somehow it's been safe to approach the people I have approached.
In addition to the material exchange, I can't help but feel that just the
act of recognition and simple human respect on my part, contributes
something positive.

This has helped me find a personal way to contribute, as well as contributing
through other groups.

				Steve Sanderson
				Tandem Computers
				san@mpd.tandem.com
From: streak@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jason Williams)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: SWBT "Two-inch lady" in Austin? (your number back...)
Date: 22 Nov 92 06:58:18 GMT
Distribution: austin
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin

In article <83978@ut-emx.uucp> slug@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Wowbagger The Infinitely Prolonged) writes:
>In article <PETONIC.92Nov13113649@daisy.hal.com> petonic@hal.com (Michael A. Petonic) writes:
>>Say a guy comes to a party with "bad intentions" on his mind (i.e.,
>>casing the joint with plans to rob it later).  He uses the phone, dials
>>the repeat number and saves it for later use.  Then, at his leisure, he
>>can call the phone number to check whether or not the occupants are at
>>home.
>>
>No flame intended here, but the above scenerio is fairly pathetic.  If a guy
>comes to a party, then there are high chances that he knows, or can easily 
>find out the name of the host.  The he merely has to look up the number in the
>phone book.  It is about as easy.
>
>The number is 830 to dial to get your own phone number.  It is a general
>knowledge number- many people I know already knew this "feature".
>
>

On a similiar note, How do I get the phone to ringback?

I know of a number to this but in only works in a selected part of Austin.

(958-XXXX where XXXX is the last 4 digits of the #)


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