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From: powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim B. Powlesland)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Infrared heat detectors
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:18:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Aug19.071837.23951
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

I just received the Gander Mountain 1992 Fall/Winter catalog. On
page 205 I was astounded to see the following item for sale. The
description under the photo read:

"Game Finder is a portable, hand-held unit that helps you find
wounded or downed game - the goal of every ethical hunter. In
fact, it could make the difference in whether or not you recover
the trophy of a lifetime. This flashlight-sized unit uses
infrared heat detector that senses temperature differences as
small as 1 degree F when scanning an area. A tan graph displays
relative heat (a large change of several degrees such as the heat
radiated by a large animal will illuminate all 10 lights in the
bar graph, revealing the presence and proximity of the animal).
Guaranteed to detect hidden rabbits at over 30 yards and treed
squirrels at over 40 yards. Sensitivity can be adjusted to ignore
slight temperature changes. Works equally well in open or in
wooded terrain. Scans 11' wide x 13' high area at 100 yards. One
9-volt battery (not included) provides up to 12 hours of
operation. $249.99"

Yeh, right. Hunters are going to use this only for finding downed
game.
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: kdw@icd.ab.com (Kenneth D. Whitehead)
Subject: Re: Blaze Orange for turkeys in PA.
Organization: Allen-Bradley Company, Inc.
Date: 18 Aug 92 08:04:20 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

mas@icf.hrb.com (Mark A. Singer) writes: 

>Did you know this year in PA. you must have on 250 sq.inches of blaze
>orange to hunt the fall turkey season and 100 sq. inches of blaze orange
>while moving only to hunt the spring season. What do you all think ?

I only hunt turkey in Pa. in the spring (or at least so far), and I
have to admit, I am absolutely astounded every year when people get
mistaken for turkeys and shot by accident.  This is apparently a big
problem in the fall when rifles are used, but it also happens in the
spring.  How, I just can't imagine.

It's probably a good law, although it's going to seem pretty wierd.

Ken
From: webdw@mvutd.att.com (Bruce D Woods)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Re: Hunting joke (may be offensive)
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:46:39 GMT
Organization: AT&T
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu


In article <1992Aug18.080247.23908@doug.cae.wisc.edu> you write:
>The only thing offensive about that "joke" was how bad it was.
>Moderator: Is there anything in the charter to keep out
>no-brainer "humour"?
>
>[Moderator's note: I thought the joke was quite funny.  There isn't
>anything in our charter about jokes.  However, I am curious about what
>other rec.hunters think.  Please send me your comments and include a
>note as whether they are just comments for me or to be posted to the
>group.  tjr]


If you are polling, my vote is "NO" to jokes and other
irrelevancies; there are other newsgroups.

BDW


[Moderator's note: Please don't flood my mailbox with "votes".  I have
recieved enough to know that there is general support for posting
jokes.  

Here is my "official" joke policy. I will continue to post jokes that
are at least somewhat funny and related to hunting.  I like to imagine
that rec.hunting is a sort of hunting camp.  All us rec.hunters are
sitting around an electronic campfire swapping information, stories,
advice, and perhaps a few jokes.

tim]
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: rbeltz@stowe.mitre.org (Randolph Beltz)
Subject: Upland Fowl Hunting Clubs
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA
Date: 20 Aug 92 07:40:57 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

Hi there folks,

	I have trained my dog up to a level where we must now practice
with live game.  Does anyone know of a club in the New Hampshire/Mass
area where we can go to watch other dogs work...and perhaps practice
ourselves on pheasants???

Randolph Beltz
rbeltz@mitre.org
From: slv4b@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Shotgun Help
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:48:03 GMT
Organization: Utah State University
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu


     
     Several monthes back, I posted a question in this group asking
for advice on the purchase of my first shotgun.  Thanks to all who
offered their opinions.  I'm back again, asking for more advice, but
this time about a specific gun.  The Remington 870 Express has really
caught my eye, but I don't know of anyone who's ever shot or owned
one.  As I mentioned before, this would primarily be used as a
pheasant gun.  I really like the price on this one.

     Any opinions, comments, or advice?  E-mail would be sincerely
appreciated.
 
Thanks,

Lance Robinson
Utah State University
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: keith@clodii.columbiasc.NCR.COM (Keith Boyd)
Subject: Re: Unusual hand trap
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC
Date: 14 Aug 92 09:14:05 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Aug11.084405.17556@doug.cae.wisc.edu> jsemrad@ems.cdc.com (Joe Semrad) writes:
>Fellow hunters and shooters,
>
>I just got my Orvis hunting catalog recently and was intrigued by a
>hand trap designed to throw Ritz crackers (!) instead of clay pigeons.
>They cited decreased cost, more challenge and biodegradibility of the
>targets as advantages.
>
>Has anyone tried this? 

Apparently not.

> What is the effective range of a Ritz cracker?

Is that with or without peanut butter on it??   ;-)

>Perhaps one could go to the grocery store and get some animal and bird
>shaped crackers and set up a "sporting crackers" course. :-}
>

Yeah, and can you imagine how many birds would be attracted to the
shooting range after a target shooting session??  Wouldn't that be
like baiting??


>Joe

Keith

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Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: cower@csli.stanford.edu (Richard Cower)
Subject: Re: Peep sights
Organization: CSLI, Stanford University
Date: 13 Aug 92 08:44:39 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu


Peep sights are great for getting on a target fast. I used them as a
kid (we couldn't begin to afford a scope) - and have recently gone
back to them. I doubt they help accuracy, but on a moving target
I'd much rather have one than a scope. They also don't break very
easily.

One thing I've not seen mentioned is you have to look thru the sight,
not at it. This is very important for using one correctly. It takes a
bit of practice to do this. Find the front sight and the target, and 
you'll do ok.

Try out a Williams 5D, with the twilight aperture. Very nice, and
inexpensive (around $20). The 5D originally meant $5, which is what
they used to cost.

...rich


Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: halvorsen_ralph@mac-mailserver.atc.ll.mit.edu ("Halvorsen Ralph")
Subject: More
Date: 12 Aug 92 08:35:50 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

1. The advantage to the peep sight for most people is that the human
eye will center the front sight automatically in the circle which
allows you to concentrate on aligning the front sight with the target.
This is an extremely fast and accurate means of acquiring and dealing
with moving targets IE: this is why the military uses it.(note I said
moving targets not necessarily the most accurate system of aiming per
se)

Somewhere I remember hearing the accuracy of the human eye in its
ability to split differences(distances,ala centering sights) and
remember it being a phenominal tolerance, however at this point
oldtimers disease(as my kids call it) kicks in and I can't remember
the figures although I remember being impressed!

On my rifles and shotguns for big game rest Williams Foolproof
sights(peeps) which sport the small screw in peep for targeting then
it is removed and put in the parts drawer. The result is a large 1/4"
hole for hunting. Works great when I do my part!

Question for Robert Suggs. What did you do about your mod 12 barrel if
anything?

Bob, the guy who keeps pestering me for the computer to do work says
hi and to quote Dennis Miller "I'm outta here!"

Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: dsleeper@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (DON SLEEPER)
Subject: Re: Mechanical Release Problems
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: 13 Aug 92 08:42:00 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Aug12.082239.11471@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, ras@fred.niaid.pc.niaid.nih.gov (Randy Stevens) writes:
>I am currently using a Trophy Hunter Ball Bearing release with my
>Browning Mirage bow.  I pull 68-69 pounds and shoot an overdraw.  The
>problem is that the release has broken the string serving twice in the
>last week.  Does anyone know of a soultion to this problem?  I heard
>that this problem is not uncommon for bearing-type releases at higher
>draw weights.  Is this true?  If so what is the best type of release
>to use to eliminate this problem?  I should also mention that I do use
>a nock between the release and the arrow.  It is also worth noting
>that I have NEVER experienced this type of problem in three years with
>my old bow (58lbs. draw weight).
>
>All wisdom will be appreciated.
>
>Randy A. Stevens
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
RANDY--

I use a Scott caliper release with my High Country at 74lbs with no
problems.  The release head is connected to a wrist strap by a swivel joint
to prvent string torque. The trigger pull is fully adjustable from soft
to any other tension.  The machined caliper jaws have a smooth radium that
seems to easy on the string serving.  I've never had string problems as you
mentioned, but I use bow string wax where the caliper grips the serving.  My
strings last years with heavy waxing.


***************************************************************************
DON SLEEPER, CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY, CHICO I PLANT OPERATION
DSLEEPER@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU                     I DEPT 925, CHICO, CA 95929



Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: nick@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Nick Leiterman)
Subject: Re: Peep Sights
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle
Date: 12 Aug 92 08:35:59 CDT
Summary: I like peep sights
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu


In article <1992Aug10.084830.18027@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, rigg@osnome.che.wisc.edu (Tim Rigg) writes:
> I'd like the net.opinions on peep sights.  My partner swears by them.
> He drilled the hole out so he could use it in low light.  But now the
> hole is so large I don't see how it helps at all.
> 
> I am reluctant to get one because it just seems like one more thing to
> get in the way when that big buck walks past your stand.  Add the low
> light limitations and I don't see how they are worth it.  Do they
> really help your accuracy and precision that much?
> 
> thanks,
> tim
> 
Two years ago I put a peep sight on my .54 TC Renegade BLack powder
rifle.  I also drilled out the hole.  On the bench I can get about
a 3 inch group at 100 yards.  I found that in the fiels I can get 
on target really fast, and the peep sight covers up less of the target
than a regular iron sight.

The theory is that your subconsiousness will automatically center
anything that you look at through a circle,  so all you do is look
at the front sight and you automatically center it in the rear sight.

It works for me, I will never go back to regular iron sights.


-- 
     Nick Leitermann
     Seattle Washington
     nick@bcstec.boeing.com


Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: Re: Neutering a male pointing dog???
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: 18 Aug 92 08:03:08 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Aug17.100600.8499@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
   J.M.Spencer@newcastle.ac.uk (Jonathan Spencer) writes:
 
>I had a GSP which we had castrated. He's fine. Hasn't gained any
>weight (except when he's stayed with the mother-in-law), and works
>fine. But there's no need to castrate the dog *unless* his attentions
>are being drawn by bitches. In the case of a English Setter, I'd be
>surprised. My advice: don't bother until/unless you have to.
 
 
Actually, my advice would be to do the neutering unless the dog is
such a good animal (read titles) that he should be breeding.
It's just one less thing to worry about; and I'm sure you don't need
more to worry about.
 
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Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim B. Powlesland)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Re: Hunting joke (may be offensive)
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:02:47 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

The only thing offensive about that "joke" was how bad it was.
Moderator: Is there anything in the charter to keep out
no-brainer "humour"?

[Moderator's note: I thought the joke was quite funny.  There isn't
anything in our charter about jokes.  However, I am curious about what
other rec.hunters think.  Please send me your comments and include a
note as whether they are just comments for me or to be posted to the
group.  tjr]
From: fowler@cvmmdl2.msstate.edu (Stephanie Fowler)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Suggestions needed for Bowhunting
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:18:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Aug19.071828.23918
Organization: MSU College of VET MED
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

My bow is a PSE equipped with sights, quivers, and a rest.  Last year I had 
problems keeping a tight grouping at 30-35 yards, yet when I began shooting 
year it seems my sights are completely off.  My lowest pin is set dead at only
20 yards and the others are useless. Is adding an overdraw the only way to 
correct this problem?  Also I would appreciate some suggestions on a new rest.
The rest I am using now allows my arrow to slip off whenevr I pull back no 
matter if I try to stablize it or not. Thank you in advance.

Stephanie
From: ut-emx!shawn@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Shawn Boyd)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Re: Mail Order Places
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:02:55 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu


In article <1992Aug14.091416.17789@doug.cae.wisc.edu> voder!galaxy.nsc.com!brian@pyramid.pyramid.com.UUX (Brian Chan x5621) writes:
>Hi folks!
>
>
>I've been hearing a lot on the net recently about Cabelas and Gander
>Mountain.
>
>Could some one please post the address/phone number so that I can get
>a catalog from them??
>
>Right now, I do all of my ordering from Bowhunter's Discount Warehouse
>and FS Arrow.
>

 Gander Mountain 
 PO Box 248
 Wilmot, WI  53192-0248 
 800-558-9410

 Cabela's
 812 - 13th Ave. 
 Sidney, Nebraska  69160
 800-237-8888 (customer service)
 800-237-4444 (phone order)

>thanks!
>
>-brian

 Sure.  --Shawn Boyd
From: J.M.Spencer@newcastle.ac.uk (Jonathan Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Another Joke
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:41:27 GMT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu


Tim,

I have a clean (ish) hunting joke which you can post in r.h if you
wish. It's not original, I got it from the net, but it sure made me
laugh.


A city boy arranges some duck shooting and is out at dawn just as the
fowl start to move. He manages to shoot a duck and it drops like a
stone, but it lands over the fence on some land where he doesn't have
permission to shoot. Now, being a city boy, he hasn't got that
indispensible piece of shooting equipment, a good dog, with him.

So he decides to hop over the fence and collect 'his' bird. But
wouldn't you know it, just as he gets to the bird a voice bellows out,
"Just what d'yu think y're doin' with ma' duck?" (Like the accent?)
It's the farmer and he's none too pleased.

But the shooter isn't having any of this nonsense, "Your duck? I shot
it, that makes it mine."

"City boy, huh?" says the farmer, "well, that duck's on mah prop'ty,
that makes it mah duck. But ah tell yu what, we have a way of settlin'
disputes in thu cuntry <sorry!>, what d'yu say we settle this thu
cuntry way?"

"And what's that?"

"W-e-l-l. It goes like this, we takes turns kicking each otha' in the
balls, and the last one standing get the duck."

THe city boy (foolishly) agrees, and the farmer says, "Right, ah git t'
go first." He swings his hob-nail booted foot back as far as he can,
and gives the city boy an almightly kick in the spuds. The city boy
goes down gasping. After a few minutes he's recovered enough to get to
his feet and he says (through the tears), "Right, it's my turn" and the
farmer says, "Nah, yu can keep the duck" and walks away.

<howl>


--Jonathan
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: Kenneth_Mudge@QM.SRI.COM (Ken Mudge)
Subject: A deal on Archery tackle?
Organization: SRI International
Date: 14 Aug 92 09:13:04 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu


I need some advice on some Archery tackle I'm considering. I'd like to try 
bow hunting for boar here in No. Calif. and think I might have found some
good tackle at a reasonable proce through a catalog.

For $99.99, you get a Bear  65 lb "Grizzly" wheel bow with laminated wood 
limbs and 60% let-off.

You get a "no-rattle" 7 arrow quiver (mounts on bow), a 4 pin sight with
guard, arrow rest, cable guard (for fletching clearance), whiskers for 
string & cable quietness, and an installed nock-point.

Anyone have any advice for me? Is this a good set-up for a beginner, and
are the prices good?

I'd sure appreciate hearing from any of you.

Thanks,

Ken
From: pfs@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (Paul Schnettler)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Re: Pyrodex load needed
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:41:55 GMT
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, University of Wisconsin
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Aug17.100625.8568@doug.cae.wisc.edu> jessie@iastate.edu (Brent Danielson) writes:
>My apologies if this message appears twice.  The software got a little
>weird, and I'm not sure if the first post got out.
>
>I recently (last night) took delivery of a new T/C Hawkins rifle in
>.54 cal.
>
>Thanks in advance
>Brent Danielson
>Jessie@iastate.edu
>

I use 370 gr. .50cal "maxi-balls" w/100-110 gr. of pyrodex.
I pre-lube them and cary them in a short tube of 1/2in. i.d.
latex. I find for longer shots the maxi's are more accurate
since they get more twist from your rifled barrel than a pathched
ball would. I can easily put two maxi's right on top of each other
(ala Robin hood's arrow trick ) at 50 yards with open sites...
I guess shooting match grade 22's in college helped hone my marksmanship
skills. at any rate..the t/c hawken will be very accurate for you.
practice speed loading, There always seems to be another deer around
after you've gotten that first shot off!               

Just my $.02
From: ut-emx!shawn@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Shawn Boyd)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Re: FLETCHING JIG
Keywords: BOWHUNTING
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:18:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Aug19.071846.23985
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu


In article <1992Aug17.100519.8392@doug.cae.wisc.edu> ras@fred.niaid.pc.niaid.nih.gov (Randy Stevens) writes:
>I need to purchase a fletching jig for fletching 4 inch feathers.  I
>would like to get one that does all three feathers at once.  Has
>anyone had any GOOD or BAD experiences with the ARIZONA E-Z Fletching
>Jig?
>
>Thanks,  Randy A. Stevens

 Yes.  I use one with my five inch (feather) fletching.  It does do all 
 three feathers at once, and dries them quick.  It does have problems.

 1) Any excessive "Fletch-Tite" (or other glue) will stick to the fletching
    limbs, and gum up your jig.  This is a real pain in the ass.  Use 
    acetone to clean the limbs after each use, or sooner or later you'll
    end up yanking your feathers off what you thought was a perfectly dry
    shaft every time you fletch an arrow.  Use hardware store acetone.  DO
    NOT USE womens' finger nail polish remover.  That stuff has oils and 
    perfumes in it, and will make your arrows smell "oh so very sweet" and
    will oil up your jig too.  Trust me on this one.  It is the voice of 
    experience you hear speaking.  Last year, in a moment of desperation, I
    cleaned my Arizona jig with a girl friend's finger nail polish remover.  
    (It left a fine coat of perfumed oil on my jig and on some of my arrows.)
    Not only did she tease me about it unmercifully at the time, she called 
    my arrows "twinkle-toes" whenever she got the chance to race down the 
    alley ahead of me and pull one from the bail when we were out shooting.

 2) After each fletching job, hang your jig with shaft inserted in front of 
    a fan to quicken the drying process.  Some people claim that this makes
    for a weak bond.  I think they're wrong.  

 3) Expect a different helical from an Arizona jig than what you'll get with
    a more traditional jig -- oh say, a Bitzenberger (which, in my opinion, 
    is the way to go).  The Arizona's are quick, and real transportable, 
    which makes them good for field use on fletching (especially when you're
    in a bit of a hurry) but for a beutiful helical fletch right on down to a 
    straight fletch, with a great bead on the shaft, a Bitzenberger is the way 
    to go.  I know some guys that turn up thier nose at an Arizona.  I own    
    both, and recommend both.  Price from BDW -- about $100.00 for both, plus
    shipping and handling.

 Shawn Boyd
From: J.M.Spencer@newcastle.ac.uk (Jonathan Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Re: Neutering a male pointing dog???
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:19:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Aug19.071932.24151
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Aug18.080308.23992@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:
> In article <1992Aug17.100600.8499@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
>    J.M.Spencer@newcastle.ac.uk (Jonathan Spencer) writes:
>  
> >I had a GSP which we had castrated. He's fine. Hasn't gained any
> >weight (except when he's stayed with the mother-in-law), and works
> >fine. But there's no need to castrate the dog *unless* his attentions
> >are being drawn by bitches. In the case of a English Setter, I'd be
> >surprised. My advice: don't bother until/unless you have to.
>  
> Actually, my advice would be to do the neutering unless the dog is
> such a good animal (read titles) that he should be breeding.
> It's just one less thing to worry about; and I'm sure you don't need
> more to worry about.

That's a fair attitude, except that the dog (or bitch) won't have
had a chance to prove himself until he's over two years old. And
by that time you'll know if he's a randy sod. Hence I say don't
{castrate, spay} unless you know you're never going to breed from
the bitch, or until you've decided that you're not going to breed
>from the dog (because he isn't good enough or because he's always
off bitching). As much as anything, it's a waste of money if it isn't
necessary.

--Jonathan
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: Re: Veracity check
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: 13 Aug 92 08:41:39 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Aug12.083527.17146@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
    kdw@icd.ab.com (Kenneth D. Whitehead) writes:
 
>Just a tip on something I saw over at the archery range last night:
>Hoyt (the bowmaker) had sent out a flyer warning people NOT to buy
>Hoyt bows from Cabela's, Gander Mountain, etc., stating that this
>would void the warranty.
 
 
Sounds like more of a reason to not buy a Hoyt than to not buy from
Cabela's, Gander Mnt., etc. .......
 
      ----------------------------------------------
Chris Barnes            |
x005cb@tamvm1.tamu.edu  |  Only 21 more days until the start of
(409) 846-3273 (home)   |           hunting season (in Texas)
(409) 845-8454 (work)   |