From: steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Quayle on abortion
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:54:45 GMT
Reply-To: celia!steve@usc.edu (Steve Tyree)
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood

In article <1992Aug21.140729.28971@pmafire.inel.gov> cdm@pmafire.inel.gov (Dale Cook) writes:

->(1) If we held a vote today on this issue, "to settle it", would you feel
->    the issue were "settled", once and for all, if the majority of the 
->    people voted that life does *not* begin at conception?  Be honest, now.

     Yes. This issue is so divisive that voting may be the only solution.
     Im willing to give in on some social issues if it helps bring liberals
     and conservatives together into a common small government ideal.

->(2) Suppose, in the future, the aging population is causing tremendous
->    problems for the government.  To "solve" the problem, someone proposes
->    we hold a vote "Should all people unable to care for themselves be
->    euthanized?", and the vote passed.  Would that "settle" the issue for
->    you?  Furthermore, in order to promote unity on the issue, the people
->    who injected the poison would be selected at random, and your number
->    came up.  What would you do?

 I dont want government to be big in the future. Medical Insurance and
retirement capital investments should be privatised and insured by private
firms. This way the government wont have the ability to force any health
related issues on us. The only intrusion by government should be as a
small safety net. Health incentives should be provided by lower insurance
rates offered by various firms. 

->(3) Do you now see that I do not fear *this* vote, but the precedent it
->    would set?  After all, if we can settle this issue, we can settle
->    _any_ issue with a vote, right?

 Our prior voting record for politicians has you scared no doubt. This 
might be an exception due to the complex nature of determining when life
starts and when rights for that life should start.

->(4) Now.  Do you *really* believe that your vote is going to keep this
->    issue from "tearing the country apart"?  No matter what the outcome,
->    the issue will NOT be "settled" for the losing side.  Do you agree
->    with that?

 I will agree to abide by the outcome of the vote. Will everyone else ? 

->Is your distrust of science so great that you would place the outcome
->of these *important* decisions in the hands of a huge mass of emotional
->people?  You say you're afraid of big government.  I share your distrust,

 We need to determine if the peoples opinion is different from the 
philosphers opinion or the scientists opinion. If it isnt then we 
all agree. If it is different we need to determine why.

->Frankly, I'm amazed.  If you start allowing the majority of the people
->to dictate laws in this country, what does that do to your precious
->individualism?  You want to see dictation of behaviour, you follow your
->path.  Don't you see that your "majority" of voters will become the
->new "politically correct"???  You don't dare hold a view contrary to the
->majority; they might hold a vote about you!!!  Your path has even more
->potential to allow the majority to kill at will.
->What is so difficult about this concept?
 
 My personal feeling due to my Individualistic Conservatism is that the
current situation is killing what I consider to be other individuals.
 This feeling is contrasted with my desire to allow individual freedom
of choice. The choice of death of an individual is a bad one in my mind.
 Both perspectives conflict with each other. Individual rights of the
unborn verses individual rights of the mother to choose. My personal
feeling is that since the unborn individual dies if the wrong choice is
made, no choice should be allowed. However, since my macro view leans
towards a non-statists world, some restricted right to choose might be
permitted if non-statism was the intended goal. In other words, this is
one of the view values or rights which I would allow the majority to
rule on. Very simple indeed.

 Steve Tyree - These opinions are mine and mine alone.