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From: v124jw4y@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Benjamin R Pierce)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WWF Prime Time Wrestling - 28/9/92
Keywords: 2 hours of WWF in 4 pages or less
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:09:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <22583@galaxy.ucr.edu>, kzim@watserv.ucr.edu (Christopher Robin Zimmerman) writes...

>Nailz v. Tony DeVito. (Monsoon, Heenan)  DeVito is tossed before the bell.   
>Nailz grabs the mike and shows off his lovely singing voice, kicks DeVito  
>trying to get back in the ring, but the ref forgets the countout.   
>"BLAH...BLAH...BOSS MAN...BLAH..."  Well, you know.



Aaaaargh!  And I missed it!  Not that I have any great desire to see Nailz,
but Tony DeVito and I went to high school together...

BTW, I haven't had the chance to see him wrestle yet--can anybody tell me how
he measures up to other wrestlers height-wise?  He was fairly short when I knew
him...if we can just get a shot of him standing next to one of their "6'8" 
titans, and he even comes close, then I'll finally have proof that either:
a. McMahon exaggerates the height of his wrestlers just a TEEEEENY bit.
or, 
b. DeVito has gotten elevator shoes. :)




                                                                --Ben
From: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Newbies and net.ettiquite, the short of it (was Re: Wrestling Poll)
Date: 28 Sep 92 04:27:00 GMT
Organization: University of Fairbanks, Alaska...no wait, that's not right...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC

In article <1992Sep21.195835.15006@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>, wrdj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes...
> 
>Mr. "Listen To Why I Won't Get Maried" is complaining about this?????

Point A: While it's very popular to flame that particular post, bear in
mind the fact that I made one inappropriate post a long time ago and I
certainly realized what I was doing.  On the other hand, most of the
newbies currently on this group have flooded the group with inappropriate 
posts. In the cases of some individual newbies, it's in evidence in 
virtually every post they make to this group.  From what I've seen, in
most cases, they either don't know, don't care or seem to believe that they 
have a God-given right to do so.

I'm sure you've noticed that I haven't been around the net that much
lately.  Would you have ever guessed that it was because what little
time I have for this lately is spent reading the massive body of newbie 
dreck that gets posted to here, the vast majority of which doesn't
really need to be posted?

>And I'm sure this .sig file is saving bandwidth......> 

Point B: While it's also popular to flame .signatures, bear in mind the
fact that 2 additional lines of .signature hardly presents the kind of
burden on disk space and bandwidth that 30 to 50 lines of unnecessary
attribution does.  And huge amounts of unnecessary attribution is a
condition that I'm beginning to see in virtually every other article I
read in this newsgroup.

In article <1992Sep22.135515.21486@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, yyz@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (donald.w.coons) writes...
> 
>But Frank don't you know Sean is a God.

You have that all wrong.  The correct term is Gh0D.

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From: vpo@tos50.teradata.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Comet Kid = Carlos Santiago Espata
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:49:09 GMT
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The WWF's Comet Kid is none other than Carlos Santiago Espata from
the Lucha Libre! This is the gospel as revealed to me by Dave Fields...



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From: jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WWF/WCW(newbie's opinion)
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:42:34 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Sep27.182210.13171@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>, pmbarlow@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Dan Fielding) writes:
> In article <Bv1At3.GAz@cs.dal.ca>, colin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Colin Edward Mac Donald) writes:
>>       The few WCW shows I have watched
>> 	seem "small" and weak when compared to the WWF. Even the WWF ring 
>> 	looked bigger than the WCW ring. I'll also take Mean Gene and
>> 	Bobby Heenan over Jim Ross and Jesse Ventura(although Vince has gotta
>> 	get off the air).

> The ring size for both, as far as I know, is the same: 16 feet by 16 feet.  The

The WWF ring to the best of my knowledge is 20 feet by 20 feet. It is larger
than the WCW ring. Just watch someone throw a vertical suplex. Plenty
of room in the WWF ring, but the WCW guys have to make sure they're plenty
close enough to the set of ropes they're facing so they don't hang their
opponent on the opposite ones.


   ______       
  (__  __)     .----------------------. 
 _  / /        | Jason Steeves        |
( \/ /         | (jsteeves@ac.dal.ca) |
 \__/ ASON     `----------------------'
From: dsrekjk@prism.gatech.EDU ( Jon Kincaid)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: More on Center Stage taping
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:55:21 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

A couple of other quick additions to Surfer Michael Branch's comments
1) Sting and Jake signed liability waivers regarding their upcoming
   wheel match. If there were any doubts left that this is going to be
   the Spinner's Choice match, the repeated discussion put that to rest.
   But seeing as to Watts' unpredicatableness.......
2) the wheel does work! Jack asked Jake to let him give it a practice
   spin and after the half hour it seemed to take to stop spinning, it
   stopped on the space dividing the Prince of Darkness and Texas Death
   Match spaces.
3) The new face Michael couldn't remember was Ronnie Walker. He wrestled with
   Z-Man in a tag against a North Georgia team that bills itself as the PYTs
   (but can in no way be confused with the old team from Memphis) in a match
   that drew about as much heat as any other, with the crowd chanting for the
   PYTs to "lose some weight".
4) Scott Steiner defeated Steve Austin to defend his TV Belt in a match that
   was scheduled to last 10 minutes and went 2 1/2 hours (ok it just seemed
   that way. Scott pinned Austin with one second of time remaining.) No signs
   of heel turn from Scott. My guess is that Steamboat wanted out (or Watts
   wanted him gone) and they wanted another face to hold this belt for a while.
5) Atlas seems to be in pretty good shape and is a much better replacement
   than Butch "I need AA, and that don't mean Arn Anderson" Reed.
6) Truth in advertising award goes to Rhubarb Jones who told the audience that
   Arn and Bobby Eaton were on their way out. He probably meant to wrestle 
   Pez Whatley and a jobber partner, but we took it another way.
-- 
"Don't move him, he's hemmorhaging"- Gordon Solie, 1981, on Ted Dibiase
being piledriven multiple times by Terry "Bam Bam" Gordy.
dsrekjk@prism.gatech.edu is jon kincaid
From: Steve_Hooper@mindlink.bc.ca (Steve Hooper)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Heart Punch (Was:More Briliant Ideas)
Date: 5 Oct 92 05:40:22 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Jeffrey E. Benedict writes:
>
> BTW- On the topic of Portland Wrestling in the early 80's- where is
> Playboy Buddy Rose? He had some great feuds with Piper, David Shultz
> (he was involved in a really bloody shoot which was televised in its
> entirety), Steve Regal and Matt Borne.  Also, he helped break Curt
> Hennig into the biz. (There was a "my father can beat your father
> feud between Hennig and Borne.  Both Larry "The Axe" and "Tough Tony"
> were there, but "Tough Tony" was in rough shape and there was no contact)


The "Playboy" is still wrestling from time to time in Portland, and he is a
Main Event draw for just about every one of our West Coast Championship
Wrestling matches here in Vancouver.  (WCCW).  In fact, he wrestled last
night in Chilliwack against Diamond Timothy Flowers in a cage...and was
defeated.  Both men juiced, and Rose bled like a stuck pig...

He will be in Cloverdale ( a suburb of Vancouver where we wrestle every 2nd
week ) on the 24th of October.

In case you're interested, I have been wrestling with these guys for about 2
months now.  The regulars include Buddy Wayne, Mike Roselli, Tim Flowers,
Rose, Beautiful Michelle Starr, Bart Sawyer, The Grappler, The Cobra, Pretty
Boy Doug Masters, and a new fellow who was in training the same time I was
(although I am still training...this guy started about 4 months prior to
myself) and I recommend you keep an ear to the ground for this guy...Adrian
Balboa.  He is VERY talented.

We even brought in Jimmy Snuka a few months ago, and I had a chance to meet
him...strange fellow!  Also, Sumito the Samoan will be appearing soon.

For those that notice, we pool a lot of talent from our area with the guys
from Portland.

--

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 OR      a777@mindlink.bc.ca   []     CP Rail - Cascade Sub
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From: scheid@danzan.EBay.Sun.COM (David Scheid)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: wcw Saturday Night TV Tapings
Date: 6 Oct 1992 16:33:00 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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In article C7A@acsu.buffalo.edu, v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel) writes:
>   I had two wishes when Bill Watts took over: 1) push Brad Armstrong and
>2) Sign Tony Atlas as a monster heel. 

This was recommended by one of the Wrestling publications (not a Stu
Saks issue). Apparently, Atlas is still great as a heel, although I only
remember him with Rocky Johnson. Seemed to be lumbering around the ring
because of his overdeveloped thighs, but, we'll see. 

>   For my money, Pillman has worked some of the best (hell, most of the best)
>matches in WCW or the WWF over the past year.  Maybe I should put him on
>the wish list instead of the Steiners.

Yeah. I agree. He has turned into a real pro with what should become some
classic wrestling matches for future collectors. This can only mean that
if Watts brings back the Light-heavy title, Pillman can be a major player
for years to come. Need to work on his TV delivery though. A few more lessons
from Ric, maybe? Or Ole. (I always enjoyed listening to Ole.)

>   Bagwell has been taking an awful amount of abuse lately.  First Slaughter
>gets drilled by Nailz, now Bagwell's career is going down the toilet.  God
>I love this.

I've been out of town on the weekends lately so I'm missing some of this.
Hopefully, this weekend I can catch some of the beating so I can share in
the enjoyment. If the kid hangs in there, he could be ok in a few years. 
He needs to work with Pillman a lot, though.

Finally, having Windham as a heel doesn't seem to play that well, but then
I haven't seen a current roster of WCW talent. I'd rather see Windham stay
as he is but be independent. Kind of like Arn saying he was going after major
singles titles (didn't get programmed to do it), and then staying somewhat
neutral. This way he can fight Rude, Jake or Steamboat, any one would be a
good match given Windham's record.

---
Dave Scheid - All Disclaimers Apply


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From: jnelson@iastate.edu (Jeremy F Nelson)
Subject: Wrestling FAQ to follow
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:04:06 GMT

I understand the author of this FAQ will be coming back soon.  Anyhow, with
all of the flare up of 'newbie' questions and the offense taken from them,
it only seems appropriate to post this again.  Its been a month, and no
doubt we've picked up new readers since then.

So if you dont want to read this, be prepared to hit 'n' cause here it is.

If you haven't posted to this newsgroup yet, you are well advised to read
the FAQ before posting your first time.

No changes have been made.  It is posted as it was last month.

-- 
jnelson@iastate.edu
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From: rtcst3+@pitt.edu (Robert   T Conticello)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WWF Prime Time Wrestling - 28/9/92
Keywords: 2 hours of WWF in 4 pages or less
Date: 30 Sep 92 04:18:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <22583@galaxy.ucr.edu> kzim@watserv.ucr.edu (Christopher Robin Zimmerman) writes:
>Nasty Boys v. Bobby Perez and Akita Webb (Mooney, Hayes)  "Who are the #1  
>contenders?"  Of course, only the Nasty Boys and Money, Inc.  are  
[ ... ]

 Actually, this was the most interesting match on Prime Time.  Jerry Saggs
 showed that he was such an excellent ring technician by attempting a leg
 drop from the second rope and landing on jobber's face with his upper leg
 and butt. Ouch!!!  They even showed it on the replay after the match and
 he nailed that guy pretty good. Jerry has a long way to go before he's
 Bobby Eaton!

 Rob C.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze)
Subject: Re: Kensuke Sasaki Coming to WCW
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:20:53 GMT

In article <Bv81DA.Cw4@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel) writes:
> The way they played him up, they gave the impression
> that Sasaki, unlike several other Japanese wrestlers who have come to WCW,
> would be sticking around for awhile and playing a major role in the promotion.

  He's supposed to come in for an extended stay, maybe even a year. 

> Sasaki is one of the
> better young wrestlers in Japan (which is to say in the world) and I think 
> he's definitely the equal of anyone wrestling in the U.S. right now.

  I dunno if I would put him on a pedestal like this.  There are a lot of
  other Japanese wrestlers (young and old) that I'd prefer to see - that
  doesn't mean I'm not happy to have Sasaki come over. 

  I remember when Sasaki worked in Calgary for a few weeks, where lots of
  New Japan wrestlers learned the ropes.  Commentator Ed Whalen was really
  hyped about him, praising him like crazy.  I can't remember if he'd
  wrestled a squash or two already at the time, but he was wrestling one
  on the episode that sticks out in my mind.  The guy he was facing was
  not prepared to work stiffly, but Sasaki just laid into him with really
  stiff kicks in the corner.  The camera went off with Whalen screaming
  bloody murder.  Then Whalen came on camera and apologized, saying that
  the kid had to be taken to the hospital because they weren't sure if
  anything was busted inside him.  He said there was no need for Sasaki
  to work so stiffly and that he was out of the territory as of that
  moment.  

                                                               Herb... 
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From: bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Comet Kid=Paul Diamond
Date: 28 Sep 1992 00:22:04 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, burgin@currituck.cs.unc.edu (Robert Burgin) says:

>In article <1992Sep27.120441.1@bcvms.bc.edu> joes@bcvms.bc.edu writes:
>>In article <ventura.717577725@camelot>, ventura@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Wawczak) writes:
>>> Just to set the record straight. A few people thought that it might be
>>> Marty Jannetty,...
>>
>>I've heard it could be Kid Dynamite, formerly of the British Bulldogs, 
>
>	Clearly, the Comet Kid is Steve deSalvo.
>
>	--rb
>

Regardless of who the Komet Kid is, do we really need another wrestler
who wears his jockstrap on his head?

-- 
Just this person's view of netlife.

======> mike palij ::  bh929@cleveland.freenet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze)
Subject: Re: McMahon's Drug Policy
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:00:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.214258.27220@CS.ORST.EDU>, foleye@CS.ORST.EDU (Stilt Man) writes:
> In article <BvE728.ED6@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze) writes:
> >  [Ultimate Warrior]            I don't know where the idea that he can
> >                                work comes from.  What evidence of this
> >                                have we ever had? 
> 
> SummerSlam '89 and the Survivor Series Showdown '89 vs. Tully,to name a couple
> of examples.  The former?  Belly-to-back superplex was what turned it around
> when Rude climbed the ropes to yell at someone outside the ring (think it wuz
> Piper). In the match with Hogan, he did a fair amount of work,and in defending
> the WWF title against Ted DiBiase at SNME the following winter he had a fairly
> good match as well.  For a generally-brawling type wrestler, he actually does
> work at it a great deal.

  Sorry, but I'm unconvinced.  We have the same response when people say
  that Hogan has no technical ability: "he did that suplex off the cage on
  Big Boss Man, he did a drop toe-hold that one time on a WWF syndie 
  squash, etc."  In Warrior's case, there is even less truth to the 
  claim that he has any technical ability.  Now that I've seen lots of
  Hogan matches from pre-1983 where he had to work, I realize that he 
  once could - I still think that he now can't.  The Warrior has never
  shown me that.  Yeah, his matches with Rude & DiBiase were entertaining
  but I would think they showed me how great those two guys are at 
  carrying somebody.  Hogan vs. Warrior showed me nothing from either
  guy.  I'd have to check to be sure of the exact times, but of the 
  25 minutes the match ran, one third or less was actually work.  You
  have to figure that a really small percentage of that time was actually
  technical work, and so a really, really small percentage of the match
  was technical work.

  That one sentence about Hogan's pre-1983 matches almost sounds like  
  a compliment.  I must be getting soft.  ;-)

                                                                Herb...
From: hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze)
Subject: Re: Wrestling TidBits - 10/01
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:00:53 GMT

In article <mjenkins.718224011@cunews>, mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
> In <1992Oct3.183555.21624@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner) writes:
> >> - Butch was fired after missing a TV taping.  
> >No more Bushwhackers?  Oh, darn.  :)
> I thought Herb meant Butch REED, not Butch MILLER, but I could be
> wrong.

  Ooops.  I don't know what happened to the "Reed" that should have been in
  there.  Sorry about that.

                                                                Herb...
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From: dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster)
Subject: Re: Ric Flair as a face
Keywords: Nikita was a face in 1985
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:57:24 GMT


Keep
In article <Bv96Dz.7uB@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe F
ipp) writes:
>  People were taling about Flair facing Nikita in 1985 as a heel/heel
>match.  Wasn't that the time when Nikita turned good in light of Magnum TA's
>accident.  I seem to recall Starcade 1985 being the Night of the Skywalker's,
>with Flair going against a good Nikita, who recently formed the Superpowers

The night of the skywalkers was Starcade 1986


                                             David Kempster
                                             Fx
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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: More brilliant ideas from Vince
Keywords: New wrestler
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:01:45 GMT

In <IhsKr*jg0@birdland.UUCP> Andy@birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio) writes:


>The Singing Cowboy.

>Yes, 'tis true. People on GEnie have been talking about it. As if Da 
>Mountie's singing wasn't bad enough. Perhaps that'll be the basis of their
>fued... who's the better singer.

Dare I ask <shudder> who the Singing Cowboy will be? Perchance Tracy
Smothers, aka Rance Someone, ex of the Young Pistols.

>BTW, someone posted that Sgt. Slaughter will referee the main event at
>Survivor Series.

I don't think anyone posted that here yet, but I got the gist of it
when Daryl posted the results from Winnipeg, and Slaughter kept coming
out and changing the referees decisions, i.e. the "troubleshooting"
referee.

They gotta give the guy *something* to do! :)

Michael
From: hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze)
Subject: Re: Survivor Series
Keywords: Original Concept
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:59:49 GMT

In article <BvI9o9.EB5@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp) writes:
>   I hope that they aren't starting to change the format, I liked the concept
> of just having Survivor Series matches.  Otherwise, it's just another mega-
> card like 'mania and SumerSlam.

  There will supposedly be some "traditional" Survivor Series elimination
  tag matches on the undercard of this show.  Vince has determined that he 
  has to have "feud" matches on top if he wants to draw an audience.

                                                                Herb...
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From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp)
Subject: Butch was fired
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 00:30:40 GMT

  Was that Butch Reed or Butch of the Bushwhackers?

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From: ckennedy@sleepy.helios.nd.edu (chris kennedy)
Subject: boot loading and the barbarian
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 03:13:08 GMT

Did any one fail to notice that just before the barbarian kicked Ron Simmins
in the head that he tapped the toe of his boot on the mat.  Since this seems 
to be the international symbol for this is a loaded boot which I am activating
now any guesses on how the fued will play out.  My personal was that Ron 
would get the old boot to the head, Barry (I've fallen for this three times 
in three weeks) Windham will challenge, figure out the secret of the boot, 
win, reign for a while, and pass the strap to either Rude or Austin for a 
unification.  Now that I've gone out on a limb, it seems that there have been 
loaded boots in the past, does anyone remember how that terribly fiendish bit
of chicanery is usually overcome?

chris

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