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From: cn577@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: CV Extra : Superman to return in 2 weeks
Date: 8 Jan 1993 15:48:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cn577@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine)
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According to Martha Thomases, DC spokeswoman, Superman comics will 
resume publication, with Superman #77 going out to distributors in
about 2 weeks.  "An announcement can be expected in February," she
told UPI.

No-one is talking for sure about the clone rumor, but artwork of
a familiar but faceless Superman has gone out to distributors as
samples.  Martin Stever of Capital City distribution said that the
current rumor was "that there will be four clones," Caucasian,
Hispanic, Asian, and African American, introduced in April.

(The current issue of Cyberspace Vanguard: News and Views of the
Science Fiction Universe can be found on rec.arts.sf.misc and other
groups, or write to this adress for a copy or e-subscription.)


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From: jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein)
Subject: Re: Death Miniseries and Sandman Mystery Theatre ... Questions ...
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:00:16 GMT

rji@nyquist.cs.nott.ac.uk (Rob Ingram) writes:

> |> This series is based on the old JSA Sandman.
> |> 
> 
> More importantly it won't be written by Gaiman, I forget the name of
> the actual writer though.

MATT WAGNER (semi demi-god) will be writting the book.  Personally the
concept doesn't sound very promising, but I trust Wagner.  Anyone who
could create Mage and Grendel can't be all bad....
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From: berninge@cs.purdue.edu (James Berninger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Presidents in comics
Date: 6 Jan 1993 10:58:21 -0500
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University
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In article <1ietupINNin9@titan.ucc.umass.edu> donovan@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Sean Donovan) writes:
>At least 1 other Presidential cameo I can think of:  Ron Reagan and Mikhail
>Gorbachev in Batman: Son of the Demon.  Oh, wait:  Ron Reagan again in 
>Dark Knight Returns III & IV.  Any others?

Reagan was also in Legends -- he issued the executive order banning
super-activity.  Reagan, Gorbachev, and their wives were in a
Deadman storyline in Action Weekly.

Jimmy Carter was in a Supergirl story in Superman Family.

Richard Nixon was in a timely issue of Superman.

FDR was involved in early issues of All Star Squadron.  I'm not sure
if FDR appeared in any comics of his era.

Perhaps most famously, Superman revealed his identity to John F.
Kennedy in an issue of Action (#306?) that was shipped right around
the time of his death.

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Subject: Re: if Jesus(TM) is a Marvel character, then...
From: mark rieker <MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:40:04 EST
Organization: Penn State University

     Actually, Jesus already is a Marvel Character.  No really.
     Anybody remember Aquarian? Take a look I think it's him. I last saw
     him in the "What If..the bad guys won Atlantis Attacks" issue

            I get the Obscure Trivia Lad award for that one.
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Xref: sparky rec.arts.comics.misc:11414 alt.comics.lnh:280
From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,alt.comics.lnh
Subject: Re: what is the lnh (WAS Re: LNH:  Collaborative story)
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:14:26 MDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Utah State University

>>I'm interested in writing a collaborative story like the summer annuals
>>that the Big Two put out.  This will involve every current member of the
>>LNH. 
> 
> what is the lnh (no flames for an honest question)
> how could i see some of your stories?
> and if i decide to get involved?
> * i do so hate being in the dark on these things.?
> 
> i haven't been on forever and a day so sue me for my ignorance
 
I officially allow Scav to answer this question, as his first official act of
the LNH for 1993!  Welcome back >buddy< !!!

							wReam...


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From: mac7@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael A. Chary)
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Subject: Re: Happy Squid Appreciation Day -- the SQUIDDIES are here! (Revised
Date: 8 Jan 1993 22:35:33 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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I could also use a copy of the form for squid voting.
-- 
"What's wrong with him?" "What do you mean?" "Well, he's standing
in front of a mirror, talking and smirking to himself.  That's
one of the first symptoms of megalomania." - The Doctor
"Ipsa scientia potestas est." - Roger Bacon
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From: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
Subject: DC Trade Paper Prices: Outrageous!
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 09:33:20 GMT

What's with DC/Warner's book prices?

It used to be, you slap four to eight issues of a comic together, you paid
five to twelve dollars for them.  The Sandman collections started at, what
$14.95 for the first one?  I could live with that, it had nine issues.

Lately, every trade paper from DC has been $19.95.  Regardless of size or
shape.  Now, Books of Magic was just four (thick) issues.  The original issues
didn't total $19.95!

But then they go and sell the Death of The Big Red Boy Scout for $5?  Go
figure.

Joel
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From: lsmith@atto.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: The Future of Swamp Thing
Organization: Swamp Water Squids of the Poor
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:00:35 GMT

Given that Nancy Collins will probably be off the title by ST #140 (that's
when her contract runs out) what changes would you make to the title?

I have no problem with the current artwork. I like the idea of Charles Vess
doing the covers. I am, however, at a total loss at who to bring in to do the 
writing. (No, Alan Moore won't work for Vertigo, so don't even suggest it.)

Some of the plot stuff would be easy to clear up. Forget that the Sunderland
Corporation exists, for at least a year. Send Lady Jane packing unless they
can find something better for her to do. Scrap the Green politics for a few
stories. Maybe downgrade Tefe' and her magical mystery powers a few notches. 

So to get Dani Z. to read the book again, what would you do?

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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen)
Subject: Re: When was the destruction of Daxam?
Keywords: daxamites, glorith
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:48:17 GMT

Maybe all the Daxamites were so awed by their new powers that they went out to 
roadtrip the galaxy for a while, leaving behind only one or two caretakers.
     Dave Van Domelen, Naaaaaaahhh.....
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From: mkelly@happy.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Subject: Re: Next Men Russian
Reply-To: mkelly@happy.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:15:02 GMT


 jsweet@irvine.com (Jerry Sweet) writes:

|> Thought this might barely amuse some of you who follow Next Men...no
|> knowledge of Russian required.  Take a look at the Russian speech
|> balloons.  Haul out your Webster's dictionary, look up "alphabet," and
|> find the list of Russian letters and corresponding phonemes.  Now
|> phonetically decode the balloons.  Compare to the "translations."
|> 
|> It's hardly worth the trouble, unless you're REALLY REALLY bored, but
|> might provide you a microscopic smirk.

You don't have to bother with the dictionary if you have even a passing
familiarity with the Greek alphabet, or if you've ever wondered why Soviet
rockets always had a C.C.C.P. on the side of them.

-- 
+               Mike Kelly, Notre Dame Department of Physics                +
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From: jacobw@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jacob Solomon Weinstein)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN:Lucien's Library
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:50:53 GMT

danm@sr.hp.com (Dan Merget) writes:
>Jacob Solomon Weinstein (jacobw@phoenix.Princeton.EDU) wrote:
>> Somewhere in Lucien's library is a multi-volume collection called "The
>> Set Of Books From Which Jacob S. Weinstein Would Derive The Most
>> Pleasure and Edification." It contains precisely the maximum number of
>                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> such books that I'll be able to read in my lifetime. I'd love to get my
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> hands on it.
>
>If I were you, I wouldn't be in a hurry to finish that last volume.

I hadn't thought of that. Hmmm... It brings to mind Newcombe's paradox.
If I never read the last volume, would I be guaranteed to live forever?
If I wanted to kill myself, could I speed read the whole thing?

There's a Borges story that's somewhat relevant. I believe it's called
"The Librarians"; I haven't read it, but a friend described it to me.
It's about a race of librarians who spend all the days of their lives in
an infinite library. Every conceivable book is there. Many librarians
search for the book that will reveal the secrets of their particular
lives. The only thing is, in an infinite library, there will be an
infinite number of imposter books, which reveal only false secrets.

So, to return to Lucien, that multi-volume set could be a cruel hoax
dreamed of by somebody who hates me, and wants me to waste my life
reading books that I won't really enjoy, or who wants to frighten
me to death by making it a four-page edition. Sigh. I suppose I'll just
have to choose my books for myself.

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From: Sten M. Drescher <smd@hrt216.brooks.af.mil>
Subject: Re: Marvel Implosion Imminent? (was: Re: Marvel copies DC... again)
Organization: AL/HRTI, Brooks AFB
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:32:05 GMT

On 5 Jan 93 01:34:35 GMT, intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac N. Truder) said:

 Isaac> WHEN will this implosion happen?  Who knows.  But if you read
 Isaac> the recent MARVEL: FIVE FABULOUS DECADES... hardcover, you'll
 Isaac> see that Marvel's history has been full of periods of expansion
 Isaac> and then rapid cutbacks.  The only thing I fear this time around
 Isaac> is that a major cutting back of titles will be translated into
 Isaac> the media as "Comic books are no longer big business", all the
 Isaac> "investors" will get out of the market, and it could spell
	^^^^^^^^^^^ Halleluah!  If it'll do that, I hope there is an
implosion SOON!
 Isaac> problems for a lot of the new comic books stores that have
 Isaac> sprung up in the last few years.  And if direct sales comic
 Isaac> stores start closing, that will mean problems for smaller
 Isaac> independent publishers.
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From: bert@snowman.med.umn.edu (Albert Nakano  CBN)
Subject: Re: Presidents in comics
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:33:27 GMT

How about Ron Reagan in the Falcon Mini-series.  One of the humorous cameo
was Richard Nixon in Watchmen.  Does that really count since it's an alternate
history? Marvel often puts cameo appearances by Presidents.  I remember Jimmy
Carter in X-Men during the Dark Phoenix saga.  

no sig yet,
Albert Nakano
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From: rba@xgml.com (Roy B. Amodeo)
Subject: Re: (WS) Does anyone read Japanese comics?
Organization: Exoterica Corporation
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:23:26 GMT

In article <tal691.726786211@huxley> tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald) writes:
>Hello folks,
> 
>I was just wondering... is there anyone who actually reads the
>translated Japanese comics, by Viz, Dark Horse, etc.?  I don't
>mean readers who are anime or manga fans, but comics fans,
>whose experience of Japanese comics is minimal.
>

I discovered the English translations of Japanese comics about when Akira
(the comic) came out. The art in Akira blew me away, and the story
looked interesting.
Since then, I sampled a number of the titles available, including:

Lone Wolf and Cub
Grey
Crying Freeman
2001 Nights
Appleseed
Outlanders

Of these, I eventually dropped all of them. Lone Wolf and Cub I collected
about 16 or so issues before I got bored. I loved the art, but the situation
seemed to lend itself to fairly repetitive storylines.

Grey didn't grab me. Crying Freeman bored me after the first storyline.
I just found it too "unrealistic" (although I think that's more due to my
dislike of the genre, than a failing of Crying Freeman).

I also got bored with 2001 Nights. The stories were a little bit corny.
Appleseed I liked, probably more for the art and the setting than the
actual stories. I will pick up the collections as they come available.

Outlanders seemed a bit immature.

Currently, I'm collecting
Alita Battle Angel
Sanctuary
Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
Silent Mobius

Out of these, I would highly recommend Nausicaa. The story and the art
are both very rich. I have seen fairly little anime, although I did see
Akira twice when it came to town. (I had already been collecting a number
of Japanese books by then.)

rba iv
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From: jdelisle@udel.edu (J. G. Delisle)
Subject: Re: RAI #0
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Boyz from the Dwarf
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:30:00 GMT

In article <1isk6gINNpu1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, bc751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Z. Shiau) writes...
> 
>I know that RAI #0 sets the future for the Valiant Universe.  I just
>hope that the popularity or "unpopularity"??? of certain characters
>doesn't make Valiant change the future.  It's bad enough that 
>Marvel changes time lines with people coming back and forth from the
>future.  The future should be the future, period.

	In the Wizard interview with the Valiant bigshots, they hinted at the
fact that Rai #0 is not the complete history of the Valiant universe. (They
more or less said they can use petty contrivances to alter what was shown, like
keeping Bloodshot alive after the Blood of Heroes is stolen). Also, all off-
planet history is ignored, so there could be a _lot_ going on in 4002, but
just off-planet. But if they make a Shadowman 3099, I'm dropping the whole
line.

> [...]
>continue.  That's just my opinion.  Also instead of these team
>comics, such as Secret Weapons, Future Force, maybe a comic based on
>the geomancers or from Harada's point of view would be kind of cool.
> 
>Any other ideas?

	I think we should see more of the Eternal Warrior's past adventures.
Not just 3-4 page flashbacks like they've been doing, but an entire storyline
(more than one "fill in" issue) that takes place in the past. There should be
some kind of "government" operatives running around too; I find it hard to
believe that the Hardcorps and Harbinger Inc are the only organizations with
any kind of superhumans. You'd think the military would be interested, but as
far as I know, none of the "1990's" titles have had any real government 
involvement (except for the final issue of the "First Strike" arc in Solar).

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From: carlf@panix.com (Carl Fink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Did Ya' Notice in Future Imperfect
Date: 9 Jan 93 02:31:01 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <lks23vINNjki@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> khale@camilla.Eng.Sun.COM (Abhijit Khale) writes:

[much deleted]
>There's also an urn labelled "She", which seems to me to be a reference
>to a rather terrible film about some amazons in a postnuclear future
>(the name itself is derived from a Rider Haggard novel).

  Actually, She was a very uninteresting Marvel character, as I 
recall an artificial woman who spend all her time looking for a perfect
mate, annoying such heroes as Thor and Adam Warlock. 
-- 
Carl Fink          carlf@panix.com, C.FINK4(GEnie), or CF427620I@LIUVAX.BITNET
  "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our
  inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter
  the state of facts and evidence"     --      John Adams
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From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Subject: Re: Next Men Russian
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 10:57:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.100035.21834@netcom.com> byron@netcom.com (Byron C. Go) writes:
>I was wondering when people would notice this.  You don't even need to know
>ALL the phonemes.
>
>Actually, doesn't Byrne use a computer to do his word balloons?  It looks
>like he did a font switch to Cyrillic.  (Easy enough to do on a Mac.)

Yeah, he does.  He used Fontographer to create his own font based on his 
own hand-lettering (perfect letters every time!).  Looks like he just made up a 
second set for JB-Cyrillic or something.

I have to admit, the lettering in JBNM is excellent.  I'm quite surprised that
more letterers don't do the same thing -- or why more companies don't (say)
pay Todd Orzechowski to do up a character set for them.

The only drawback I could see is that the artist/letterer would be limited by
the variety of characters usable.  There's more variety in hand-lettering, but
when the letters are as "perfect" as Byrne's system makes them...

Hmm.  What do y'all think?

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From: maguire@zappa.jpl.nasa.gov (Kevin Maguire)
Subject: Re: IMAGE: Shadowhawk 2
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:16:32 GMT

In article <C0D8Hy.854@news.ucs.mun.ca>, cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig
Welsh  ) wrote:
> 
> >	I never saw any of Jim Valentino's stuff before this, and Craig
> >Welsh (who you've also seen on this group) used to describe Guardians of
> >the Galaxy as one of his favorite comics.  Well it had to have been
> >better than this!  Quite simply -- ShadowHawk STINKS!!!!
> 

[assessment of GotG as good when Valentino was on it]

> Furthermore, I can only wonder how Valentino managed to produce such a
> good comic. Having bought Shadowhawk #1 and read #2, I can only conclude
> that he did it with mirrors. I simply do not know how he could go from a
> great comic like Guardians to Shadowhawk. Ran out of ideas? Can create
> original characters? Had help with Guardians? I don't know, but anybody
> who has read both books will probably find it difficult to believe that
> they were written by the same person. 

Someone who is familiar with Valentino's work on _normalman_ and 
_Valentino_, both of which were brilliant (ah those were the days - Alan
Moore and Frank Miller on monthlies, Messner-Loebs doing Journey), is
likely to be even more amazed that either Guardians OR Shadowhawk was
done by the same Jim Valentino.

Although I do agree that Guardians was better than Shadowhawk.  Given that
it was "hot character future version of the month club", he did that 
pretty well.  Even if his future church reminds me a whole lot of the
one from Dreadstar - is it actually MEANT to be the same church?  Got
to give him points for the Stark though - that was a pretty good idea.

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From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Fantastic Four
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:10:57 GMT
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland

>>>(b) John Byrne.  He did it once.... *not* it greatest moments, but a darn 
>>>sight better than anything we've seen since.
>>
>>IMHO, Byrne did the definitive FF. Intelligently written and finally
>>brought Sue out of the Dark Ages (where Deflaco has put her back to) and
>>produced some powerful stories. The issue where Sue's child died is
>>still one of the more powerful stories ever done.  
>>
>>For the record, I'd like to see Walt Simonson come back again. Sure some
>>of the issues were damn weird, but they were fun in a twisted sort of
>>way.
>>
>>There are others, but I can't remember them. Regardless, only Byrne and
>>Simonson should be allowed to write Dr. Doom. His character suffers when
>>anybody else tries to write him.
>
>I agree that Byrne did a great job on the FF, but what Doom stories did
>Simonson write, besides the #350 garbage? I would like to add Marv Wolfman
>as a good FF and Doom writer--I thoroughly enjoyed the build-up to issue
>#200.
>
What! Simonson's Doom was not garbage. It was a/ a beautiful way to
retcon every Dr. Doom story where Doom is completely out of character
out of existance. and b/ The first time Doom acted like Doom in ages. A
good Dr. Doom characterization should either scare the hell out of you
or give you a sense of awe.  The story that Simonson wrote didn't so
much scare me as give me the feeling that this WAS Doom and that you
could tell from the way he was talking, behaving, even standing.

The only other Doom story I have seen recently that can compare was John
Byrne's Doom in Namor. That was a scarier Doom, but it was more in the
way that Jae Lee drew him than it was Byrne's writing. Still, a good
Doom story all the same.

_craig 
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