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From: bab2@rigel.uucp (80700s-barter)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: seen the Carl books yet?
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:00:19 GMT
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ

In article <1992Apr15.100331.2948@vax.muskingum.edu>, geschwent@vax.muskingum.edu writes:
> The other reviews reminded me--has everyone checked out the "Carl" books?
> 
> They're children's books, and each just has one or two sentences--one in the
> beginning, and one in the end. I don't want to write more because it could
> spoil them for you. They're absolutely charming, and worth
> going to a bookstore just to check them out! . . . And I don't even have a
> Rottie!
> 
> -- 
> P.K.
> Geschwent@vax.muskingum.edu

I agree wholeheartedly!  I fell in love with these books a few years ago.
And I've wanted a Rottie ever since....
For those who are looking for them, they are written by Alexandra Day
and the titles are:

Good Dog Carl
Carl Goes Shopping
Carl's Christmas
Carl's Day in the Park

Day has also written a book about an Airdale who works for a carnival,
called "Paddy's Pay Day" which is also great. 

Beth
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From: 9055marcusse@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: shar-pei
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:44:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.00958E6D.FC782740
Reply-To: 9055marcusse@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

First thing is if this post 
is hard to read sorry. I just would like to tell about my 
experience with the neighbors shar-pei, I have three dogs 
2 bitches and one big Tri/collie male, he is 90 lbs the female 
half collie/labs are 45-50 lbs. The shar-pei next door is 
about 8 months old and does everthing she can to get over 
under or around my 5 ft high century fence. Once or twice she has 
when she did she attacked my dogs at random, she sure sounded and 
acted mean. To make a long story short I use to make my dogs walk 
away from her teeth, but when she drew blood on one of the females 
I considered her to have started it and let them escort her out of the 
yard their way, my dogs are not killers but they will let the strange 
dogs that enter they are not welcome. After a considerable fight she 
got the idea and left (my dogs were kind), but to this day she attacks 
the fence and tries to get at the dogs who by the the way totally 
ignore her unless she gets under the fence and enters the yard. 
One last thing is the dog has to be tied up constantly, the 
owners have no control. 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: rstewart@buck.megatek.uucp (Rich Stewart)
Subject: flies
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:31:41 GMT

We have to  big dogs and about one million flies. We have always had some flies,
but starting about a week ago we got alot of flies. We have one of those liquid fly feeders/killers. The yellow bar of death soap from decon. A stick tube with
flies painted on it. 5% powder. We pick up the poop every day. It goes into a 
sealed trash can, which I unloaded a can of flying insect spray into last night.

All of these things are out of dog reach. But we still have flies....
Has anyone had anything that worked well? should I dump the big buck on an 
electric star wars spin off bug killers? Hire a crop duster? (it is just a 
residential size yard)?

Neutron bomb? (take dogs out of yard for the weekend first)

Help....
-Rich
From: dag@control.lth.se (Dag Bruck)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: neutering and spaying
Summary: Information from leading dog training center
Date: 14 Apr 92 06:49:25 GMT
Organization: Department of Automatic Control, Lund, Sweden

In article <...> billuw@turtle.oakhill.uucp (Bill Underwood) writes:
> the relevant experience would be working with both types of dogs

I have interviewed some people at Statens Hundskola in Sweden.  I hope
you will find this information interesting.  First of all, I should
mention that Statens Hundskola is a national dog training center run
by the Swedish government.  They started in 1917, and have had a major
operation since the end of WWII.  They train all police, guard, drug
sniffing and guide dogs in Sweden; the exception is serach&rescue dogs
which are trained by people at the local obedience clubs.  They also
breed all their dogs, and they have only 7% CHD with GSDs.

First, I talked to a guy who trains police dogs.  He said that they
never neuter their dogs because they don't want a milder temperament.
He said the dogs are so bonded to their owners that bitches on heat
are not a problem, and they also deliberately train with bitches on
heat.  In his opinion (sorry, I forgot his name) there is a clear
relationship between spaying and temperament changes, and they don't
want that for police dogs.

I then talked to Hans Nilsson, who is in charge of training guide
dogs.  They produce about 20 guide dogs/year, which is about half the
demand.  Hans Nilsson said that they have reluctantly started using
male dogs because the supply of bitches is too small.

Only male guide dogs are nuetered; female dogs are not spayed.  The
reason for neutering are milder temperament and less sexual drive.
About 10 years back they used to spay bitches, but stopped doing so
because of great problems with itching. In his opinion, spaying had
such effects that it could not be justified (except for male guide
dogs).  He also mentioned the obvious fact that a blind person has a
much harder time controlling a dog.

Hans Nilsson pointed out that it is essential to neuter just before
the dog reaches sexual maturity, otherwise you won't get the desired
effect on temperament.

Comments and opinions, anyone?


		-- Dag
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: richie@cancan.engin.umich.edu (Staney Dharmakusuma)
Subject: Re: Strange eating habits
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 20:27:26 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: richie@cancan.engin.umich.edu


I had a similar situation before. (I won't call this a problem). 
When one of my Sheltie was still a puppy, he liked to chew (and eat)
some tissue (he pulled it out of the tissue box), and some books also.
I did not notice it at first, but I finally got a pattern. He only did 
it when I left home much earlier than usual, when I did not pay
much attention to him due to my exams or study, and when we left him
at home for quite a long time. I figured that he was
very upset (he was and is still very spoiled) and he tried to tell me that.

I remember several incidents. I was studying since early in the morning
(continuing from the previous night) on the couch. He has been trying
to get me play with him all the time. He kept on bringing his toys one
by one and put them on my lap or shoved them to my palm. Finally he got
upset and sat on the sofa crying once in a while. I cuddled him from
time to time, but he was still upset. When I put my book down on the couch,
he immediately sat on it. Anyway, he tried very hard to take my attention
away from the book. Then I took a shower. When I came back to the living room,
he was chewing my book that I left on the couch. I think he was very upset 
and jealous at the book.

At another time, he chose tissue paper as something he could chew 
when he was upset. 

Now he rarely does it. The last time he did it was a couple months back, and
there is a very long interval in between. When he is upset now
he'll just sit away from me and cry until I call him, cuddle him and play 
with him. I do not know what caused him to stop chewing tissue and books. 
Probably it was because he got older. I really do not know.
But I remembered that I tried not to got upset at him and yell at him
everytime he chew tissue or books. I simply told him that he was bad in
a quick but sharp voice, and I told him I loved him very much.

Do you think your husky might also be jealous or upset at something ?

Staney
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: feldman@cs.tulane.edu (Damon Feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Ankle-biting puppy question
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:24:17 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane University, New Orleans, LA


>|> My question is:  Is this normal behavior or a sign that he will be
>|> an aggressive biter when he grows up?   Also, should I scold and try
>|> to stop him?  He's only six weeks old, and I've heard that you
>|> shouldn't try to train a pup until five months of age.

>Mouthing is normal behavior, but should not be tolerated.  (See my previous
>post).  Yes, you should punish and try to stop him.

>shouldn't be separated from his mom until 8 weeks.  What I mean by training
>is not the "obediance class" but rather, socialization and enforcement of the
>rules.  Puppies are very immature at that age, but they can learn.  Don't
>expect too much at first, they're still trying to sort out their new world.

Let me clarify what this poster said, or correct it as the case may be.

It is much much easier to train a 14 week old pup not to bite than
it is to correct damage done by scaring a 6 week old pup.

Unless you can tell the difference between play, agression, reflex,
fear and stress in a 6 week old puppy (e.g. you are an experienced
breeder), let the pup alone.  To stop biting, just stop playing when he
nips.  It should feel like he's biting on a dead fish when your hand 
stops wiggling and just sits there.  I'd wait until the dog has bonded
to you pretty well before refusing to play with him like this.

It is never too early to start training, but you can make mistakes
with less impact after the dog is 3-1/2 or 4 mos old.  Training
at 10 weeks or so with food and praise is fine.  Punishment can wait.
Working dogs were given total freedom until one year of age in some
training systems so that they could develop confidence on their own.
This is not necessary if you use a reward-based training method, but
corrections at a young age are tricky to deal with.

Damon
-- 
Damon Feldman                  feldman@rex.cs.tulane.edu
Computer Science Dept.         Tulane University, New Orleans LA, USA
From: joni@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (joni.dunlap)
Subject: help doggie bad breath
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:00:32 GMT

Help I can't stand haveing my dog Asta by me any more. Her mouth is foul.
I took her to the vet had her teeth cleaned and a few removed last year.
Changed her to dry food and very little table scraps. With in 3 months
her breath started to stink again and is now smelling like somthing
died in there. Asta does not like to chew on raw hide or milk bones.
I don't have the time to be brushing her teeth every day. Whats a mother
to do? I can't stand being near here anymore. I can't afford to be getting
dental work for a dog every three months. HELP
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: vishal@ra.csc.ti.com (Vishal Markandey)
Subject: Re: Beethoven
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 22:53:36 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.125214.23019@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> jnp@po.CWRU.Edu (Jill N. Pappenhagen) writes:
>

<review>

Thanks for the review, Jill!  I also saw the movie this weekend and enjoyed it 
very much, specially the closing scene. :-)

>However, we then get into nasty vets doing illegal animal experimentation.
>These scenes are pretty scary, and there are no holds barred.  I was sick
>at heart by some of the things they portrayed.  Again, I felt like walking
>out.  I get nightmares, and I'm easily influenced by movies, so I try to be
>careful what I feed into my brain via my eyes.  

I learnt a lesson from those vet scenes.  In the unfortunate event that I
ever have to get a pet put to sleep, I would a) insist on being present at the
actual event, no matter how painful it is to me, b) I would want the body 
back.  I would not just hand over my dog to the vet and walk away, after 
seeing that movie!

Anybody know what breed was Beethoven's friend Sparky ?

- Vishal
From: ac0g@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ANNEMARIE CONNOR)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: car chaser
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:18:54 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


     My parents own a 1 year old aussie/german shep. mix. who has gotten into the
bad habit of chasing cars.  She has an acre of ground to run on, but she seems
to want more space.  Part of this acre (about 1/4 acre) is enclosed with a
fence.  Keeping her fenced in would be a good way of preventing her from
running onto the street, but she gets too ramy in there.
     The dog has already been hit by a car, and is currently recovering from
hip replacement surgery.  Unfortunately, the vet does not feel that this
experience will deter the dog from chasing cars in the future.
     Any suggestions? How about an invisible fence?   This dog needs a lot of
room to run, and I would hate to see her penned up in any area smaller
than 1/2 acre.

                                     Thanks,
                                     Annemarie
From: X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: White Lab ?
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:21:58 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University

In article <oduPFhW00UhBI2bXx_@andrew.cmu.edu>
       lb2r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Lorraine Blasik) writes:
 
>
>I was watching TV last night a commercial for "Wisk" laundry detergent
>was on and I swear what I saw was a white labrador.  Is there such an
>animal?  and if not what was this?  i have seen the yellow labs but this
>one was white ( well eggshell).  I have a chocolate now and we are
>planning to get him a pal when we move into the new house to help with
>the transition.
 
 
    There are many yellow labs that are *very* light colored (to the
point that they look white).  They are still (at least technaclly)
a yellow lab.  That is, unless they have pink eyes, then you probably
have an albino (do those even exist?).
 
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Chris Barnes            |  "Success is the realization of your
x005cb@tamvm1.tamu.edu  |       worthwhile dreams" ---  Dexter Yager
(409) 846-3273 (home)   |  "A goal is a dream being acted upon"
(409) 845-8454 (work)   |                          ---  Don Wilson
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: pastor@prc.unisys.com (Jon Pastor)
Subject: Re: Has anyone ever...
Organization: not much...
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:15:12 GMT

After a fire, we had to move into an apartment building that didn't permit
pets, and our dog went to live with some friends for 6 months.  He was already
comfortable with both the people and the house, since he'd visited many times
with us.  He cried the first night, but was OK thereafter, and came home to us
six months later to the day with no apparent ill-effects.

If you're concerned with his running away and returning to your new house,
just ask your in-laws to be careful about not letting him run loose.  It
sounds like he'll be in a loving home, and while I'm sure he'll miss you it
will probably not do him any harm.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: riacmt@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Carol Miller-Tutzauer)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Thanks for all the "helpful" suggestions part II
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:34:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr13.192643.12008@b15.b15.ingr.com>, lynn@b15.b15.ingr.com (Lynn Lee) writes...
  >They were howling during the day when we werent home and freaking out when
  >we got home from work at night.  We usually found our house totally destroyed!
  > 
  >Now, when we get home, we change clothes, go outside and play with the dogs,
  >sometimes we go for a walk, sometimes we play fetch, sometimes we just give
  >belly-rubs!  They are very happy dogs.  They rarely bark, there are no
  >children that come up to our fence and taunt them, and they romp and play
  >all the time!  Even when we are not  outside with them!  We love to watch
  >from the windows as they play and run!

But there is a big difference between having multiple dogs outdoors
and having a single dog outdoors.  A single dog outside would   
be pretty much socially isolated.  Now... letting the dog be
inside when people are home, and outside when away (provided
there were proper facilities -- area and items for play,
appropriate shelter, sufficient security) would compensate.
Having more than one dog compensates because they play with
each other.

As for the indoor destructive behaviors, another solution would
have been to deal with the behavior directly.  My dogs also love
to go outdoors and spend HOURS, but I just don't want them outside
unattended.  If I had very secure kennel runs, 6 foot fence 
(instead of 4-foot), and an excellent shelter arrangement, I
might feel differently.  But I don't have those facilities. 
And actually, my dogs get into more trouble outside than inside.
("MacGyver, stop eating the dog poop!  Tara, stop chewing on the
shrubbery!  Come back here with my BBQ Grill lid!  Stop eating
or rolling in dead bird/squirrel/other_critter carcasses!)
;-)

Carol
riacmt@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
From: kae@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Karen Erickson)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:40:03 GMT
Subject: Re: SKUNK! phewww
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

This works, really!
Use some premixed douche, Tucker esecially favors Albertson's herbal.
Nothing will completely eradicate the odor but it worked well enough that he
was able to stay in the house. The only time I really noticed it after that
treatment was when he got wet. But even then, the smell wasn't that strong. 

Make sure that you leave it on your dog for about 5 minutes before you rinse
it out. I always get Tucker to roll in the grass to really grind it in. 
Good luck.
From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Subject: Re: Dogs Don't Have Souls, Do They??
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Reply-To: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:57:58 GMT
Followup-To: alt.flame

In <73871@netnews.upenn.edu> rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec) writes:

>In article <167C89A49.X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu> X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:

Fine, then take it to alt.flame instead.  ANYWHERE ELSE!  Set your
Followup-To: lines!!!!!!!!

--Cindy

--
Cindy Tittle Moore -- anxiously awaiting lab puppy in mid-June.

Currently working on rec.pets.dogs FAQ.  Now in seven parts, preliminary
versions of five parts have been posted.  Anticipated "official" posting
(crossposted to news.answers and archival at FTP site) in early May.
From: arnolde@skcla.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Norwegian Elkhound Lovers Correspond
Date: 10 Apr 92 08:57:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: skcla.1992Apr10.085705.1
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Nntp-Posting-User: arnolde

Is anyone out there interested in Norwegian Elkhounds? I am looking for someone
to correspond with. I have been breeding and showing Elkhounds for 12 years but
have very little experience with computers. This is my first attempt at using
the net. Please send word. Here is my address. Arnolde@skcla.monsanto.com
Susan A. Nash Ostrarn Elkhounds
From: X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Need Help in Finding Stolen Puppy
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:12:32 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University

In article <44255@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
    saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belzowski (K-9's)) writes:
 
>>   Does anyone have a phone number or address of a company that
>>sells them?  If it's cheap enough, I may try to convince my
>>retirever club to buy one.
>>
>
> R.C.  Steel I believe has them.  I got mine for $110.00 from
> either them or another Vet.  Supply magazine I get (Can't remember
> the name right now).  The ink will last quite a long time
> depending on the number of dogs you do.  It's not that hard to
> use, but it does take some practice to get nice looking numbers
> and letters.  NDR--National Dog Regestry is my prefered group.
> You can contact them at 1-800-NDR-DOGS and ask for the closest
> tattooer in your area.
 
 
Some more questions:
1)  Do you have any suggestions on something to practice on
    (a piece of leather, an orange, etc)?
    I doubt the club would be willing to pay a person to do the
    tattooing.
2)  Is it painful to the dog (ie.  will we need to hold the dog
    down)?  I can't imagine that there are many dogs that would
    just lie there and let it happen if it's uncomfortable.
3)  Do we need to shave the hair off of the area to be tattooed?
4)  What number do you tattoo on (AKC number?)?
 
Thanks for your help.
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Chris Barnes            |  "Success is the realization of your
x005cb@tamvm1.tamu.edu  |       worthwhile dreams" ---  Dexter Yager
(409) 846-3273 (home)   |  "A goal is a dream being acted upon"
(409) 845-8454 (work)   |                          ---  Don Wilson
From: scm@harvee.UUCP (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Subject: Re: Need Help in Finding Stolen Puppy
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Date: 8 Apr 92 09:25:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Version: Rodney's UUCP modules 02/11/90 V1.18

marla writes:
> 
> If you get another puppy -- HAVE IT TATTOOED!

> Keep any picture you have of her for identification.
> Look all over and don't give up for a few months.  Someone may
> be hinding her until you forget about her.  Try to remember anyone
> in the area that remarked on how nice your new puppy was or
> said,"gee I want a puppy just like that." 

 
i belive tattooing may have prevented my dog being stolen, or at least
convinced a would-be thief not to bother.
we were at a coonhound show with our two dogs rikki, who was old, ugly, and
not worth stealing, and molly, who is young and beautiful.  a guy was hanging
around, telling us how much he liked her, asking lots of questions about her 
history and pedigree, and making us rather nervous. then he asked if she 
was tattooed and we said yes(she has my social security number on one thigh
and her ukc registration number on the other).  he lost interest immediately
and didn't go near us again.  we didn't let her out of our sight anyway, but
we wonder what might have ahppened.
--
-- little gator aka S. Mudgett     email: scm@harvee.uucp
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Subject: Re: White Lab ?
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Reply-To: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:42:53 GMT

In <oduPFhW00UhBI2bXx_@andrew.cmu.edu> lb2r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Lorraine Blasik) writes:

>I was watching TV last night a commercial for "Wisk" laundry detergent
>was on and I swear what I saw was a white labrador.  Is there such an
>animal?  and if not what was this?  i have seen the yellow labs but this
>one was white ( well eggshell).  I have a chocolate now and we are
>planning to get him a pal when we move into the new house to help with
>the transition.

There is a wide range of shades in yellow labradors.  I have seen
(show) labradors that were cream-white, with just slightly darker ears
and tail-tip.  They are quite beautiful.  Delcrown's Labradors (in San
Diego) appears to be consistent in breeding (well, showing) very pale
yellows.  (I know nothing further about this kennel than what I've
seen in the local show ring.)

--Cindy
--
Cindy Tittle Moore -- anxiously awaiting lab puppy in mid-June.

Currently working on rec.pets.dogs FAQ.  Now in seven parts, preliminary
versions of five parts have been posted.  Anticipated "official" posting
(crossposted to news.answers and archival at FTP site) in early May.