HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dwt8413@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (DANA)
Subject: Re: Offensive language. *warning*
Reply-To: dwt8413@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 01:42:46 GMT

Can anybody tell me where I can get onto a server that will let me IRC? One
other guy here asked and was told it would rot his brain. I've used it before
on a friends account and enjoyed it. Didn't do any damage!!

Can anybody just tell me where to go to get on-line with IRC??

Thanks.

Dana.
From: "ben bernard" <ben.bernard@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: offensive language. *
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:00:05 EST
Reply-To: "ben bernard" <ben.bernard@channel1.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

(Continued from the previous message)

the time chanting to the effect that anyone who didn't support Bush's
policies should be shot.
  During another public forum on the Gulf War, an anti-war speaker was
physically attacked by Bush supporters, who threw bottles at him and
dragged him off the stage.
  The most common complaints about and attempts at limitation of
communication on IRC are by people who are offended by #HotSex (and in
previous times +HotTub) and want to remove such people and language from
the net.
  Almost all recent Supreme Court cases involving Free Speech have
involved conservative attempts to limit expression of ideas which run
contrary to conservative moral ideologies.
  Pres. Bush has refused to rescind his order prohibiting federally funded
family planning clinics from even _mentioning_ abortion.
  Conservative school administrators at a variety of internet sites have
eliminated or attempted to eliminate those newsgroups deemed morally
offensive, including alt.sex, rec.arts.erotica, and several others.  The
most recent cases of this have been in Canada, but there have been others
in the US as well.
  Bulletin board systems across the US face a decision about whether to
allow the posting and distribution of adult materials because of recent
Right Wing attacks stemming from the availability of obscene texts and
images on certain rather profitable BBSs.

This is by no means an exhaustive list, and is admittedly partisan.  You
are welcome to rebut with counter-examples.  Or you can continue your
personal attacks, whichever you see fit.

                              -- Ben Bernard --
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From: tanglai@ecst.csuchico.edu (Nirgalli)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Hmmm...
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:41:40 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: hairball.ecst.csuchico.edu

sorry to bug you all, but I wanted to see if you actually were getting this,
the last 2-3 I posted did not get sent, I think...

JizBeast
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: swb56279@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve )
Subject: Re: Ban improvement (was Re: extro.ucc.su.oz.au and problem users)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:16:02 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.194104.8501@netcom.com> aiken@netcom.com (The Nonborn King) writes:
>In article <80991@ut-emx.uucp> dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren) writes:
>> [stuff]
>>
>> - Allow an invite to get somebody through a ban.  I really like this idea,
>>   and it sounds very easy to implement... it would reduce the effectiveness
>>   of one person banning everybody in existence, yet not go so far as
>>   removing bans altogether ...
>
>This is not exactly what you meant, but...
>
>Mode -b needs to work differently.  Either that or create a mode +a(llow).
>This is best explained by example:
>
>    /join #UIUC tn
>    /mode #UIUC +b *!*@*
>    /mode #UIUC +a *!*@*uiuc.edu
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 Hey Aik:

	I didn't know you cared for UIUC so much (-;

						

>[...]
>Aik
>
>
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>do I believe the sky above is Caribbean blue..."         'Caribbean Blue', 1991
>
>

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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: xexeo@dxcern.cern.ch (Geraldo Xexeo)
Subject: IRC and Brazilian ballot (was:Re: is anyone using IRC?
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:30:18 GMT

On 29 September 1992, from GMT11:00 to GMT24:00, Brazilians connected
  all around the world used the IRC channel #brasil to follow the ballot
  in the Congress on the impechment process of our Presidente Fernando
  Collor de Mello. The source of information were 1 person in Brazil,
  seeing the TV and some guys in Canada, seeing SPACENET. At the
  same time, a whois server, 2 ftp sites, 1 general-subject (slow) mail-list and
  another specific (fast) mail-list, 1 usenet group,
  and the BITNET relay were used to
  allow the information to achieve the largest possible number of
  Brazilians around the world.

  I estimate that around 150 persons were involved on-line, while
  1000 Brazilian were involved off-line (slow mail and usenet group)

  On the #brasil channel, we detected a record of 45 Users. 

  IRC and internet are just starting in Brazil, so we had VERY few people
  from there. A lot of the users among these 45 were using IRCfor the first
time. Even me, who was coordinating everything, was using for the second
day.Thanks to Nicolas Pioch (Nan) primer, I was able to deal with different
problems.

  We had a VERY disruptive intervention when ramjet@netcom.netcom.com 
  started creating a mess in out group. We were AGAINST the president
  and he (probably just to cause confusion) started "shouting" pro-president
  slogans and changing nickname and giving false news from Brazil. 
  Since he didn't listen our "diplomatic" appeals, we /kick him. We
  took some time to find the right commands to ban him from the group
  and after, personally /ignore him. Other disruptive interventions
  were treated with diplomacy and even some foreigners (like 1 Chilean
   and 1 Swedish) join our group just to follow the vote and our reaction
  to it. Others just left the group.


  Among the users that were having the first time, the Kiwi client 
  was a success. VERY easy to install and full-emacs capabilities in
   the buffer. I selected this and IRCII CURRENT version from cs.bu.edu,
  a bit by chance.

   Thanks to all the keep irc working, we had information on line.

                    Jerry

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From: asamonte@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Twilight_Zone: Back to the point
Keywords: Avalon ego going to infinity
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:41:26 GMT
Organization: Nothing worth mentioning...

gwydion@gnu.ai.mit.edu.UUCP (Mercenary Programmer) was telling me...
>>I dont play power games on IRC. 
>
>Correction.  You do not play what you call power games on IRC.
>However, you do play what I and a number of other people call power
>games on IRC.


You know what?  I'll be he could say the same about you.  Infact, I'm sure
everyone is playing a power game.  It just depends on which side you are
on...
My personal opinion is that you're both playing power games...but I suppose
to someone else I'm playing a power game.  
With all these games going on it's hard to ever tell who is the winner.

-Alex
From: by785@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robin Gibson)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: IRC
Date: 6 Oct 1992 14:11:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: by785@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robin Gibson)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, se_schn@pavo.concordia.ca { Ranfry } () says:

>Okay, this may sound like a real stupid question, but where can I telnet to an 
>IRC?  	IT is presently not available where I am and can't find a list of IRCs
>anywhere.  Please help.
>
Ranfry, my mailer doesn't like your adress (I tried sending this info to
you through email).  Anyway, here it is again.  Try telneting to either
one of these:  128.2.54.2, goonsquad.spies.com, or
ircserver.itc.univie.ac.at 6668

Robin
-- 
Robin L. Gibson      gibson@email.ncsc.navy.mil
Coastal Systems Station
Panama City, FL  32407-5000
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: a8jb@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (G. Youssef EE)
Subject: Re: A real IRC question
Followup-To: alt.ircii 
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Distribution: World.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:42:00 GMT

In article <Oct.5.13.42.16.1992.16620@pilot.njin.net> shevett@pilot.njin.net (Shayde) writes:

>Okay - here's one for the irc scripting hacker.

Wrong newsgroup but here goes ...

>Working under 2.2pre7:
>
>I want to have a function that will call a shell command, and return
>it's result into an IRC variable.  A few net.gods have suggested the
>following:
>
>/^alias opcheck {
>	/on exec "optask *" /assign opresult $1-
                                             ^^^ - supplying arg from 
                                                   parent alias or /on.
                                                   Should be $$1-. 
>	/exec -name optask date
>	/wait %optask
>	/say Optask result: $opresult
>}

My result would be:

alias opcheck {
        on exec "optask *" @ opresult = [$$1-]
        exec -name optask date
        wait %optask
        say Optask result: $opresult
}

Wizard.
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: asamonte@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...)
Subject: Re: more hacks (logged)
Organization: Nothing worth mentioning...
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:44:44 GMT

gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) was telling me...
>ircops could certainly be removed. But channel ops are a feature...
>and like most features, can be used for good or bad. ircops no longer
>have any good features.
>

They've all been beat to death with the ugliness stick huh?
Well, I know what a few ircops look like and they have nice features...
How rude of you to say they don't Greg...for shame...

-Alex
From: yo@math.nthu.edu.tw (The Yo .)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: #Twilight_z0ne?
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:20:00 GMT
Organization: National Tsing Hua University (HsinChu)


 Gee, d00dez, I've got some suggestion..
HOw about to rename #tWiLiGhT_zOnE to #lAMeRviLlE huh?
Imagine ,you are doing /whois tRiLlIaN
and it says:
311 Trillian is hrose@rocza.eff.org (how music changes through the years)
319 on channels: @#CoHH @#lAMeRviLlE 
312 on irc via server eff.org ([192.88.144.3] Electronic Frontier Foundation,
>Cam)
313 Trillian has a connection to the lamerville (is an IRC operator)

Pretty cool,eh?


the y0 ...

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From: gwydion@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Basalat Ali Raja)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Can someone please explain BOTS.
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:38:07 GMT
Reply-To: gwydion@gnu.ai.mit.edu.UUCP (Mercenary Programmer)
Organization: Free Software Foundation

Wumpus wrote:
>A "bot" (or automaton, as they were originally called) is any program
>that appears to be an irc user. They can do anything that a human can
>do on IRC, except hold an intelligent conversation.

Humans can do this?

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: fsquared@eff.org (Fawn Fitter)
Subject: Re: Beginner Q.
Originator: fsquared@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:38:13 GMT

RE:  joining a channel on IRC:  you need to type "/chan #nameofchannel"

The number sign "#" is important!

It's also possible that the name of the channel was longer that what you
were seeing on the screen.  In that case, /names and find out what the 
real name of the channel is.
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: StarOwl@uiuc.edu (StarOwl)
Subject: Re: Offensive language. *warning*
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Reply-To: StarOwl@uiuc.edu
Organization: Actuarial Science Program at UIUC
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 23:24:44 GMT
Keywords: significant words from a document used as an index to content

Upholder@uiuc.edu (THE Upholder of Truth) writes:
: andreww@win3 (Andrew Watts) writes:
: >Yeah, the laws in Australia on swearing in public are also pretty strick
: 
: So, you're saying that it's against the law to swear in public in AU.
: 
: Great... but (as you and some others have been so fond of pointing out),
: IRC doesn't exist in only one country.  It cannot be governed by one set
: of laws.
: 
: The main problem here is that while in AU, swearing is against the law,
: here in the US, forcably preventing someone from swearing is against the 
: law... we classify that as censorship.

Erm....maybe.  Regular readers of alt.irc may remember the big fuss I
made a while back, threatening to file a (lame) legal complaint against
another IRCer due to some "harassment" going on.  Well, the basis
for my complaint were U.S. federal telecommunications laws which make
"obscene or harassing" language/actions illegal over telecommunications
media in the U.S.

The reason I know this was that about a year and a half ago, I was having
some trouble with an *ssh*l* sending threatening and obscene email
to me, and about me to a few people who know me here at UIUC, because
of my participation in another newsgroup.  I checked with a couple
of lawyers (a friend at my church, and one of the folks with UIUC Student
Legal Services), and they both agreed that federal telecommunications
laws may be construed to cover Internet, USENET, bitnet, etc.  However,
there is no legal precedent in the US about this.  If someone really
got pissed, they could press charges under these laws, but odds are it
would open up a really nasty can of legal worms.

Contrary to popular folklore, the U.S. is NOT free of censorship.

Of course if you really like that law, then perhaps someone ought to
mention something about the "electronic communications monitoring"
bill in Congress right now.  The FBI/CIA want BBS and USENET/Internet/
bitnet providers to implement some way for the FBI to monitor all
communications going through those sites from a remote monitoring
station.  The penalty for service providers' noncompliance would
be either $10,000 or $100,000 per day (I forget which).

--
Michael Adams (aka StarOwl)	 		"Republicans understand the
Internet:  StarOwl@uiuc.edu			 importance of bondage between
Bitnet:    FREE1217@UIUCVMD			 parent and child."
Anonymous: wi.5467@n7kbt.rain.com			-- Dan Quayle
UUCP:      ...!uiucuxc!uiuc.edu!StarOwl                                    

Marrou/Lord in '92
From: 00mcfields@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: IRC server list?
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:43:34 GMT


	Does anyone out there happen to have a list of IRC servers that 
I can get ahold of?  The users of my IRC tell me that the servers that I use
shut down too often...  

If someone could mail me a server list, it would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you!!!


My address is: 00MCFIELDS@LEO.BSUVC.BSU.EDU


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From: se_schn@pavo.concordia.ca { Ranfry }
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: IRC
Keywords: IRCs
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:45:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Okay, this may sound like a real stupid question, but where can I telnet to an 
IRC?  	IT is presently not available where I am and can't find a list of IRCs
anywhere.  Please help.
From: rwhelan@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ryan A. Whelan)
Subject: Re: Offensive language. *warning*
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 06:17:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.153350.20014@njitgw.njit.edu> lcm1501@hertz.njit.edu (Lawrence C. Mc Abee) writes:

>
>>BLACKS ARE INFERIOR TO WHITES => Ever get your head blown off?
>
>	Well, I can tell your from Wisconsin. Say that in Newark, I dare you.
>

hmmm... Nice remark.  I think that was his POINT!

>
>
>>Chew on this post for a while, foreigners.  I may just move in.
>
>	Please, move in to Newark. I would give you about 2 minutes before 
> you were shot.

hmm Again that sounds like his point!


I am not saying a agree with this guy (cuz I don't agree with him!) but
whoever replyed to him was just replying... Not really saying anything because
he seemed to be flaming him while just restating what he said. I don't
have to agree with the statements,  and I don't think I would say them
(espiacaill in Newark) but I think he has the wight to say them.

I beleive laws were made in some univesityys basically saying one person
could not insult another person or use bad language at another person.
While this may protect some peoples feeling, its not the kinda country
I thought I lived in.
-- 
Ryan A. Whelan                      "Repetition does not establish validity."
rwhelan@gmuvax2.gmu.edu                                         - Souder's Law
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed)
Subject: Re: more hacks (logged)
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date: 26 Sep 92 06:29:36 GMT

evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans) writes:

>asamonte@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...) writes:
>: 
>: The only thing your log showed was the horrible and unnecessary mode
>: traffic running around all of the net.  Those were just unrecognized
>: mode changes...think of all the ones you do see.
>: 
>: Maybe there should be a mode lag time.  Only 1 mode change per minute.
>: Would cut down on a lot of crap.

>How about an ignore if it dosn't change any state.
>e.g. setting a channel mode already in existance will not be propergated.
>as will trying to make someone op who already is an op.

Nope.

Then the only recovery for 'fixing' the op status of someone who is
generating hack messages (they are and arent a chanop) is for them to part
and rejoin (2 messages) vs someone who is universally regarded as being
a chanop sending 1 message (mode) and having it globally acted upon and
distributed as it came in.  Oh, after the part/join, you still have to do
a mode so its 3 vs 1.

avalon
From: cumej@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Melinda James)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: #hack and #twilight_zone
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:36:03 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

It seems there has been a lot of controversy concerning IRC ops and
whether there are helpful, have attitudes, etc.  I would submit that ops
are not gods but people. Just like people there are goo ones and bad
ones.  While they do have a responsibility that goes with their
"station", some can handle it better than others.  So give them a break,
they are human like the rest of us.  Personally I have never had any
problems when I have had a question.  In fact, I had a particular op go
out of his way to help me with a rather trivial problem (thanks mlv!).
So  can we just end the complaining please. Thank you.  I suppose I will
get flamed..so be it.
Melinda
"Ireland"@
  
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: andreww@win3 (Andrew Watts)
Subject: Re: Offensive language. *warning*
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 10:15:48 GMT

Matt Hucke (hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: Threat?  I haven't seen any threats here... :)

Aaaaargh, ok so i spelt it wrong, "THREAD" ok ok :)

: This isn't television, you know... there's nothing wrong with letting
: children see certain words.  If their parents want to put them in little
: cocoons away from the real world, it's their own responsibility to do
: that, not the general public's.

Nope, nope, its not the words, its the certain way some of them are strung
together, as evidenced in the first post of this long and pathetic thread :)

tz
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: asamonte@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...)
Subject: Re: more hacks (logged)
Organization: Nothing worth mentioning...
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 03:57:16 GMT

lcm1501@hertz.njit.edu (Lawrence C. Mc Abee) was telling me...
>In article <avalon.717347541@coombs> avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed) writes:
>>asamonte@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...) writes:
>>[...]
>>>First of all, mode 'hacks' aren't hacks at all.  Users don't cause them
>>>Users don't create them.  Infact, /kills for 'channel hacking' are some
>>>of the stupidest things I have ever seen.  The notices occur when servers
>>>get out of synch with one another.  Meaning not all servers recognize
>>>ops on other servers.  It happens because of net splits...it doesn't 
>>>happen because people are trying to be sneaky to steal channel op.
>>
>>More often than not, it is users who cause the servers to get out of
>>sync because they have bots and whatever else all trigger happy.
>>
>>Netsplits more often than not solve the problem of unsynced servers.
>>
>>avalon
>	Can someone post an excerpt of the code for a bot that would not
> cause this HACKing problem ?  I am not sure how to do it, and do not
> have time to figure it out. I am sure other people are in the same position
> as I am, as far as not wanting to cause net problems, but not knowing
> how to fix the problem.

Sure...

/on join "*" /comment
/on mode "*" /comment

It's stupid bots that op themselves or eachother thta cause the problem
There are so many robots on channels like #hottub and #hotsex it's pathetic.
The majority of them op the same people.  That that useless mode traffic
is propogated throughout the entire net. 

-Alex

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: "Olaf Titz" <UKNF@DKAUNI2.BITNET>
Subject: Re: We =HAVE= a FAQ (was: Re: WE NEED A FAQ!!)
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:42:25 GMT


> There is already a FAQ..
> It can be found on
> cs.bu.edu
> in /irc/support/alt-irc-faq
>
> Probably a few other places too.
>
and gets it posted here too?
> Get your 'faq's straight before you post...

Sure there is... and it has it made up to this site ONCE during
the last 3 or 4 months...

I don't know if it gets not posted regularly or if there is some
other problem with the posting of it, but IMHO it is necessary
to distribute it more regularly as there are many new users around
all the time...
From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: This is just stupid...
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:17:10 GMT
Organization: Bush in 92 ? NOT!
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

macster@IASTATE.EDU (Michael C Mccarty) writes:
: I just started my subscription to this channel today.  When I subscribed to this
: channel, I was hoping to read interesting posts about bots and irc problems and
: discoveries.   Well, to put it mildly, I am extremely disappointed....
: 

Well, irc is lame... what do you expect from a newsgroup about it (-:
: 
: Go ahead... Flame me... Make my day... ;^)

Sorry, but my matches are wet.
--
Doug Sewell, Tech Support, Computer Center, Youngstown State University
doug@cc.ysu.edu	   doug@ysub.bitnet	<internet>!cc.ysu.edu!doug
Family Values: the sexist, racist, homophobic, classist, "Christian" values
of the 50's.
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: tanglai@ecst.csuchico.edu (Nirgalli)
Subject: Hmmm...
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 06:32:52 GMT

Does anyone have a copy of the rules of IRC love?
If so, please send me a copy via e-mail...

thanks,

JizBeast/ Walrus


Newsgroups: alt.irc