From: egb@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (Evan G. Bullock-Morales)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
Subject: 91 Honda Civic SI clutch problem
Keywords: Civic clutch
Date: 25 Sep 92 01:05:28 GMT


-- 
I have a clutch chatter problem with my 1991 Civic SI.  I first noticed the 
problem at 4000 miles.  The chatter has progressively worsened; at first a
slight shimmy, now (20,000 miles) the entire car shudders as I slip the clutch
(most often from 1st gear; occasionally 2nd).  The chatter is intermittent;
although most often appearing after the car has been standing for a while.
Adjusting the clutch has helped a little -- for a short period -- but this isn't
the solution.

Then answer I got from the service people is that this is unfortunate, but
normal behavior for this car:  Due to Honda's attempt to reformulate the clutch
material for complience with air quality standards the clutch will chatter.

Honda's customer (dis)service people have essentially said the same thing with
respect to the clutch material.  They say that "some" clutch chatter is considered
normal, but they won't define "some"; in fact they pretty much blew me off with
the standard "don't call us we'll call you" attitude (I gave up after four phone
calls).

Is anyone else experiencing this problem?  If so have you found a solution?
Any suggestions on how I might better get Honda's attention?

Thanks in advance.
  
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From manocha@cs.unc.edu Mon Sep 28 22:39:34 1992
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I will like to know about'92 Honda Civic prices/experiences. Please let
me know whatever information you may gather.

Thanks,

         Dinesh 

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To: endrizzi@sctc.com
Subject: Re: '92 Honda Civic Prices and Experiences
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Status: O

In rec.autos you write:


>I just sent away for my CR Auto Price Printout on '92 Honda Civic's.

>If anyone has any stories/prices on new '92 Honda Civic send them
>to : endrizzi@sctc.com



>					dreez

I bought a '92 Civic EX about 3 weeks ago in LA.  If you're interested
in any details, email me.

Sidne Ward

igta225@agms.ucla.edu

p.s.  I absolutely love it!



From mixcom.mixcom.com!bbwwbb@mix.mixcom.com Wed Sep 30 10:40:30 1992
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Subject: Re: '92 Honda Civic Prices and Experiences
From: "kevin.jessup" <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com>
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 9:57:34 CDT
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In rec.autos you write:


>I just sent away for my CR Auto Price Printout on '92 Honda Civic's.

>If anyone has any stories/prices on new '92 Honda Civic send them
>to : endrizzi@sctc.com

I got a 1992 CIVIC LX 4-door about 4 months ago.

Got the following options:

   AIR
   Civic 2000 4-speaker coaxial stereo
   Mud-guards
   Floor mats
   Pin stripes

After all the dickering, I finnally payed a flat $13,000.  Could I have
done better?  I'm not sure.  I did go to three different Honda dealers
though.

BTW, I really love the car.  Has developed an annoying dash-board rattle,
however.

-- 
Kevin Jessup, kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com

        "Friends don't let friends run DOS."
                          -- Microware

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To: endrizzi@sctc.com (Michael Endrizzi)
Subject: Re: '92 Honda Civic Prices and Experiences
Status: O

I'm a happy owner of a '92 Civic EX; I bought it in May. In general,
I've been very pleased with the car. I'd previously driven a
somewhat larger car, and was very pleasantly surprised by the fact
that the car really does have ample power for non-maniacal
drivers. The Civic EX has a different engine than the LX and DX,
but I bought the EX model primarily because it's equipped with
antilock brakes.

My experience was that the CR price printout was dead-on accurate
for the base invoice price of the car. It does NOT include information
on the holdback which the dealer receives after selling the car
(several hundred dollars), nor does it include the invoice prices
for accessories other than air conditioning.

I did some research and found that the invoice price of most accessories
was about 85% of the price that dealers were asking.
-- 
Phillip Wherry
Member of the Technical Staff
The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
psw@mitre.org

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Subject: Re: '92 Honda Civic Prices and Experiences
Status: O

I hadn't heard of the rotor warping problem. I have had the dealer adjust
the clutch. The only adjustment is for pedal height, but amazingly
enough, this adjustment made the clutch feel much better. (My wife
couldn't drive the car as delivered.)

My clutch chatters very mildy the first and second time I engage it
in the morning, then all is fine the rest of the day. I don't 
know why.

Eric.

From eli@cisco.com Tue Sep 29 18:04:02 1992
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Subject: 92 civic
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From: Steve Elias <eli@cisco.com>
Status: O


i bought a 92 civic ex with automatic for $15,100.  love it.
it's a very awesome car.  over 40 mpg on the highway, routinely.
around 35 mpg city driving.

/eli

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In rec.autos you write:


>I just sent away for my CR Auto Price Printout on '92 Honda Civic's.

>If anyone has any stories/prices on new '92 Honda Civic send them
>to : endrizzi@sctc.com



>					dreez

I bought a '92 Civic EX about 3 weeks ago in LA.  If you're interested
in any details, email me.

Sidne Ward

igta225@agms.ucla.edu

p.s.  I absolutely love it!