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From: X42529@BARILVM.BITNET (Shlomo)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: united frequent flyer International
Date: 17 Nov 92 08:40:04 GMT
Organization: Bar-Ilan University Computing Center, Israel

As a member of united's FF program (an international member, serviced by

 their international desk), I was told by United that I can only earn flights
 on partner airlines if the flight originated in the U.S.
If I'm not in the U.S. how can any flight I take ever be from there?

how can I ever earn mileage? (United doesn't fly here, so I'd have to take a
 partner airline).

If you must originate in the U.S., why do they bother having an international
 program?
From: rdorich@jade.tufts.edu (Rob)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Preferences: Heathrow (LHR) or Gatwick (LGW)?
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:32:45 GMT
	<2B0936F1.66A1@telly.on.ca>
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

Also, if you're flying British Airways, you can check in at Victoria
Station, and then you'll have a bag-free ride to the airport.

Rob
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From: samir@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Samir Patel)
Subject: Beware Guys!!!!!!!
Keywords: stolen ticket or FRAUD
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:56:28 GMT

Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Peoples Travel , Houston, Tx 77079 Sounds fishy! BEWARE guys!

 Hi Peace-loving netters,

  Please try to avoid Peoples Travel, 11221, Katy freeway, Suite 120,
  Houston, Texas 77079 (713)-467-5292. Or atleast be very cautious when
  dealing with him. Please confirm the ticket issued by him with the airline
  and the issuing agent (The ticket issued by him might say Woodlake Travel
  Service, Houston, TX....Who are in fact not aware of the ticket niether
  the serial number of the ticket!). Verify the "document number","stock
  ticket number" and agent code with issuing agent.

  That's what have been experienced by one of my friends. So beware.

  thanks,
  -Samir
From: babu@wpi.WPI.EDU (Babu Gopalakrishnan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Abbreviation for air
Date: 22 Nov 1992 06:21:31 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article bobbyr@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Bobby Richardson) writes:
>I wonder if someone can tel me what the following abbreviations of airlines:
{list deleted}

	Well here are the ones I know off the top of my head, perhaps
	others (Mr. Deepak Gianchandani?) can fill in the gaps.

AA,	American Airlines 
AI,	Air India 
AY, 
AZ,	Alitalia 
BA,	British Airways
CI, 
CO,	Continental 
CP,	maybe Canadian Pacific
CX, 	maybe Cathay Pacific
DL, 	Delta
JD, 
JL, 	maybe Japan Airlines
KE, 
KL, 	KLM
LH, 	Lufthansa
NH, 	
NW,	Northwest
OZ,	
PR, 	
RG, 	
RJ, 	
SK, 	
SQ, 	Singapore Airlines
SR, 	maybe Swissair
SV, 	Saudia
TG, 	Thai
TW, 	TWA
UA, 	United
US, 	USAir
VP	
>
	And that's all I know,

	Cheers,
			BABU
From: llew@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Lok C. Lew Yan Voon)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: airline antitrust
Date: 16 Nov 1992 18:27:35 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <16NOV199210230243@venus.lerc.nasa.gov> fssmith@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Greg Smith) writes:
>Did anyone ever get their vouchers from the antitrust settlement?
>
>Greg


i think usa today has a small piece on it today. earliest for getting vouchers:
this summer.
(deadline for filling: march 93.)

Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
Subject: Re: Preferences: Heathrow (LHR) or Gatwick (LGW)?
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:02:11 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA
        



In article <1992Nov16.221641.25270@news.mentorg.com> philip@mentorg.com (Philip Peake) writes:
>PS - in case you hadn't guessed, travelling through London
>     (as opposed to London airports) is NOT one of my favourite
>     pastimes.

  Wow.  This *totally* clashes with my somewhat limited, as well as my
  wife's very extensive, experience with the London Underground.  I never
  found it confusing or difficult to find my way around.  I think
  the Underground is one of the great public transit systems of the
  world and it makes London a very accessible city to those without
  a car or a ton of money for taxis.

  One of the biggest problems you're likely to face is bombings, or
  more precisely the *threat* of bombings by the IRA -- this has been
  very disruptive of Underground service during the last year or two.
  But, according to the _Economist_ you may not notice this because
  of . . . 

  . . . strikes.  Several are expected against the Underground just
  before Christmas as England's always public-spirited unions celebrate
  the season in their own inimitable way.  


---peter
From: fkc00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Frank Chui)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Hong Kong Travel Tips Wanted
Keywords: Hong Kong
Date: 21 Nov 92 18:52:17 GMT
Reply-To: fkc00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Frank Chui)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

doggie@cats.ucsc.edu (Anne-Gigi Ann Chi Chan) writes:
>
>There are different types of accomodation in HK depending on what
>your budget is... from really run-down guest house to 6-star hotels
>in Grand Hyatt. But I strongly recommend the YMCA Hotel on
>Salisbury Rd. It was only reopened at the end of last year and is
>right in the middle of town. I don't know about the rates, but it
>should be reasonable.

 I dug through my travel folder, and found out the rates for
 the YMCA on Salisbury Rd. Hope this helps the original post.

 Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with YMCA of Hong Kong. I got
 the following information directly from one of their brochures.
 
 YMCA of Hong Kong
   41 Salisbury Rd., Kowloon, Hong Kong
   Tel: (852)369-2211, Fax: (852)739-9315, Telex: 31274 HYMCA HX
   Rates: (as of August, 1992 - 1USD=7.73HKD)
   * single                         HKD495
   * standard twin/double           HKD625
   * harbour view twin/double       HKD765
   * suite/family suite             HKD985
   * harbour view executive suite   HKD1095
   * 2 bedroom apts/suite           HKD1095
   * extra bed                      HKD100
   All rates subject to 10% service charge. No Tax.
   - 20 minutes from the airport (by car or Kai Tak Airport Bus A1)
   - 5 minutes from the main Kowloon-Canton Railway (KCR) terminal
     (by car)
   - 5 minutes walk to the Star Ferry and the local underground
     Mass Transit Railway (MTR)
   - 2 minutes walk to the Hong Kong Cultural Centre & Art Museum
   - 2 minutes walk to the Tsimshatsui East Promenade
   - Reservations can only be confirmed on receipt of one night's
     full payment in advance or credit card guarantee.
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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman)
Subject: Where to stay?
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 12:43:36 GMT



I am planning on flying to London sometime soon just as
an exploration trip.  From there I want to go straight 
to Scotland by train or bus.  The question is...where
can a student stay for cheap?  I have heard about 
hostels over there, what are they?  Where are they?
How do I find them?  I plan on spending 6 or 7 days
total...while moving around quite a bit.  Please
advise on what I should look into.  Thanks in 
advance! 

Jason Boardman
boarjas@elof.iit.edu

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From: engp2055@nusunix1.nus.sg (VINOD UDHARAM VASNANI)
Subject: Driving in U.S.A.: Info required
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 15:53:07 GMT



I will be going to U.S.A for 3 weeks in December. Does anyone know if I
could use my driving license obtained in Singapore to rent/drive a car in the
States or do I need to get a international driving license?

Thanks in advance! 


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From: percus@pnheap.in2p3.fr (Allon Percus)
Subject: Re: Which hotel to stay in while in PARIS ???
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:25:35 GMT
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> >P.S: I am sure that they would have McDonalds over there but still I thought
> >I'd confirm and how about Pizza Hut ? Well I am one of those stinking ugly
> >people who are scared to try exotic new foods  :)
> 
> Desirez-vous visitez une autre pays pendant votre visite?

Ahem, 'un autre pays.'  Very bad boy.  10 points off.

Yes there are many MacDonalds and Pizza Huts here as well, don't get
too scared now...

Allon Percus
LPNHE
Universite de Paris VI, Jussieu
Xref: sparky rec.travel:15649 rec.travel.air:5700
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Wednesday, 18 Nov 1992 09:51:36 PST
From: Lois White <LMWHITE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: URGENT: Price of film, etc.
 <92322.085350LMWHITE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
 <ELM.92Nov18022839@terrorism.berkeley.edu>

In article <ELM.92Nov18022839@terrorism.berkeley.edu>, elm@cs.berkeley.edu
(ethan miller) says:
>
>In article <92322.085350LMWHITE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> Lois White
><LMWHITE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes:
>=>Kodak Gold 100 is about $4-$5 for 24/roll, $6-$8 for 36/roll
>
>You have got to be kidding!  The local supermarket has Kodak Gold for
>less than that.  Kodak Gold 200/36 exp was $5.99 + tax at the
>supermarket.  I get Kodak Ektapress 100 (professional version of Gold)
>for $4.50/36 exp.
>
Nope, not kidding...I guess prices down here in Yuppyville are just
more exorbitant than up your way...:-)  As I said in my post, much
cheaper prices can be found at discount places like Costco, Price Club
for Kodak Gold and Fujicolor too.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jadams@vixen.cc.bellcore.com (adams,john)
Subject: Re: ***INFORMATION NEEDED, TRAVEL IN California **
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 19:47:47 GMT
Keywords: Travel from LA to SF

In article <1992Nov16.170949.13207@netcom.com> rbp@netcom.com (Bob Pasker) writes:
>i just recently saw an ad for AMTRACK between the two cities.
>                              ^^^^^^^ AMTRAK puleeze
>1-800-amtrack, perhaps?
>      ^^^^^^^NOT!     1-800-USA-RAIL works!
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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow)
Subject: Re: Strange and Unusual stops in the U.S.
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:43:22 GMT

In article <lorange.722032623@spot.Colorado.EDU>, lorange@spot.Colorado.EDU
(Hans L'Orange) wrote:
> 
> I'm in the process of putting together a surprise (read gag) travel folder
> for some friends about to drive cross-country.  I want to include any 
> unusual stops that I can come up with so please forward any ideas you might
> have on to me.  I'm looking for things like the largest ball of string or
> the Museum of Unusual, Nocturnal and Ugly Insects.

How about the Kentucky Fried Chicken Museum located in KFC corporate
headquarters in Louisville KY...I went a couple of years ago and it was 
kinda fun (O.K., so I have a bizarre sense of fun !!) !!

Kathy
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"Australian Cattle Dogs are not just a breed....they're a way of life !!!"
From: peterw@spider.co.uk (Peter Woodhouse)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: England to Scotland
Date: 23 Nov 92 09:14:02 GMT
Organization: Spider Software, Edinburgh, Scotland

In article <1992Nov23.053903.17562@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> brit@wagner.Physics.McGill.CA (Dave Britton) writes:
>In article <sheffiel.28@bobcat.lmc.edu> sheffiel@bobcat.lmc.edu (Susie  
>Sheffield ) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> I will be in England from 12/2 - 1/8/93 (London).  I hope to 
>> get to Scotland for an overnight. Is the train the best way to go?
>> Where would you recommend going in Scotland with just one to one
>> and a half days to visit?  How long does it take to get to
>> Scotland from England by train?
>> 
>Assuming you will be in London, you could get to Edinburgh in about
>5-hours by train for around $100  return fare. However, whilst 
>Edinburgh is a fine city it seems rather pointless if you only have 
>one and a half days: You will not "see" much of Scotland.

You can actually get a return for 29 pounds if you book 14 days in advance.
It takes between 4 and 4.5 hours (London-Edinburgh) depending on how many stops
the train makes.

Peter
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Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.indian
From: Cessna@kn5f.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark T. Evert)
Subject: Re: Suggestions for Hotel near Disney World
Organization: Loral Space Information Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:55:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.160644.5614@infonode.ingr.com> 
ekins@infonode.ingr.com (Brian Ekins) writes:
> We'll be going to Disney World in the future and I'm looking for any
> suggestions for hotels near the park.  I'm looking for very reasonable
> prices and nice clean rooms.  Free breakfasts would also be an attractive
> feature.  The closer to the park the better, but if the price is right a
> few extra miles of driving is tolerable.  I have the AAA guide and have
> been looking through it but it some personal experiences help go a long
> way in finding the best values.

Just a few years ago, all the Disney owned hotels were pretty pricey, but 
that has changed.  You might look at the Carribean Resort or the Port 
Orleans Resort on the Disney property.  With a package deal which includes 
admission to all the Disney stuff, it can be fairly economical...and the 
on-site convenience and amenities add to the value.  We've done Disney 
both ways (offsite econo-hotel and Carribean Resort).  The Carribean 
Resort was far more enjoyable and hassle-free.  We didn't touch our car 
the whole week we were there.

Mark T. Evert
Friendswood, TX

My opinions are strictly my own.
From: cic0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CARMEN I. CORREA)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: San Antonio, TX
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:43:39 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I'd like some suggestions on things to see and do in San Antonio, TX.
Also, how far is it from Dallas, El Paso and Houston?  Any information
would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Sunday, 15 Nov 1992 10:38:44 CET
From: <RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject:    Teacher Wanted

Are you a qualified but currently unemployed teacher ? Would you like to live
in Spain on the Costa Brava ? We are looking for a non-smoking teacher to
tutor 14 year-old Michael, weekday mornings 0900-1300, board and lodging
provided (and a sandy beach, lots of sun, etc....). House is on the water
& about 2 miles from the sea. Replies to the above, please with details of
qualifications & references. Or fax me on Germany (49) 6151-902972.
RaF
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From: morgan@socs.uts.EDU.AU (David Morgan)
Subject: WANTED - Las Vegas Accomodation Suggestions
Organization: School of Computer Sciences, UTS
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 00:55:25 GMT

I will be in Las Vegas in the first week of January and I want to know of
peoples recommendations for cheap accommodation.  I'd even appreciate knowing
what newspapers to read to find about special deals.

Regards
 David

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From: syali@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU (Sy Ali)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Information about Mexico (San Jose Del Cabo) requested.
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:16:47 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci
Originator: syali@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU

Hi Folks,

	Me and the ball & chain are thinking of taking a package trip to
Mexico to a place called San Jose Del Cabo. Its apparently close to
Cabo San Lucas. Its apparently not too touristy, and known for fishing
(which we plan to do).

	If anybody out there knows anything about this place (pro or con)
and its associated fishing, we'd appreciate your advice.

Thanks, Sy.
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From: Liza_Weissler@rand.ORG (Liza Weissler)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Travel in Russia and the Republics
Date: 18 Nov 92 02:05:55 GMT
Organization: The RAND Corporation, Santa Monica, California

I mentioned a few days ago that I'd read that one could hire
a university student for little money to be your guide while
travelling through Russia and the republics (as opposed to hiring
a professional interpreter, which can cost big $$).  Details are:

The article ("Seeing the new Russia, now that the Party's Over",
Simon Winchester, Conde Nast Traveler, October 1992 issue I think) 
suggested contacting:

	Institute of Linguistics
	Komsomolskiy Prospekt 6, 119021
	7-095-246-0693

and

	Moscow State University
	Lenin Hills, 119899
	7-095-939-2520
	fax -939-0126

The author further states:

"Contact one of the schools and arrange to interview two or three
students upon your arrival in Moscow.  So keen will each be that
it will be briefly heartbreaking to turn the others down.  After you
make your selection, agree on a price, and (after testing your choice
by being guided through the delights of Moscow or St. Petersburg)
you are ready to set off into the unknown."

Sounds like a good deal to me.  I've been studying Russian but I don't
know how good I'd *really* do once I get there (another year or so).

        ---  __o          Liza Weissler
     ----  _`\<,_         The RAND Corporation, Santa Monica, CA
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From: brafman@CS.Stanford.EDU (Ronen Brafman)
Subject: Yucatan  Information
Organization: Robotics Department, Stanford University, Ca. USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:18:19 GMT

I'll be travelling to Cancun around Christmas
which  I know is a bad time, but that's life.
I would, however, like to stay away from the yuppie
resorts. I will do some travelling, but would like
a recommendation on a good place for budget travellers
to be in that area. I heard Isla Mujeres is one
place, but it is being taken over by the Cancun
crowd. Any suggested alternatives?
Thanks for any help,

Ronen Brafman 
brafman@cs.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: girisha@netcom.com (Girish Andalkar)
Subject: Around the World Plane Tickets
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:22:08 GMT

I have a 4 week vacation coming up.  I was thinking 
of travelling to many contries.  I think some airlines
do sell Around the World tickets.

Your inputs on such an adventure will be highly appreciated.

I am thinking of doing the Southern Hemisphere this time 
since it will be summer there.  But I am very flexible.

Thanks in advance.

GIrish

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: rfeldman@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Bob Feldman)
Subject: only a few hours in London
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:17:32 GMT

Flying back from Vienna to the US, my wife and I will have just a few hours in
London, from about 4 pm until late evening.  We will take a bus or subway
from an airport hotel to the city.  What are people's recommendations on
where to walk and where to eat in such a limited time, without rushing
around?  Is there any reaonably priced transportation back to the airport
that runs after 10 pm?

Bob Feldman
Newsgroups: rec.travel,misc.forsale,iu.classified
From: mcoulter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Alias)
Subject: RT Indy-San Diego
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: in
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:23:25 GMT

Round trip ticket first part of December.  7 day stay required.
Purchased for 220. Sell for 150-175.   Consider any offers.

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From: chorley@vms.ocom.okstate.edu
Subject: Re: Great Britain Travel
Organization: OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:44:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.021532.18490@u.washington.edu>, rich@biostat.washington.edu (Rich Holubkov) writes:
> Hi,
> 
> My wife & I are going to the UK for about 10 days in early January.
> We've been to London extensively, and we want to do a train trip where
> we can see as much as possible.  Our itinenary right now looks like:
> 
> London-  York -  Durham -  Edinburgh - Liverpool - Cardiff - London
> 1 night  2 nts   1/2 day    2-3 nts     1/2 day    2 nts     2 nts
> 
> If you have any suggestions or comments, we'd appreciate them.
> In particular, we're not too sure what to do in Wales.  We'd kind of
> like just 1 town there to hang around a couple of days.  Is Cardiff
> worth it?  
> 
> Thanks,  Rich

How about North Wales instead of the South?
You could travel along the North coast and pick a town in which to stay, like
Llandudno ( pron. hlan-did-no {wait for the flames on that !![Cymru am byth]})
which is mostly a seaside resort. It can have a certain charm in the off
season, if the weather is nice(!?!). Further west is Caernarfon,  which you
will need a bus (or car) as well as the train to get to. If you can bring
yourself to hiring a car, the mountains of North Wales are well worth seeing in
the winter: I can personally recommend Cwm Idwal, if you like hill walking.
(TAKE WARM CLOTHES AND GOOD WALKING SHOES )
On the island of Anglesey (Ynys Mon Mam Cymru) is the town of:
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantisiliogogogoch, which I am told,
has ruined many a spell checker.
	Further down the coast is Porthmadog, home to the Ffestiniog Railway,
which probably won't be running in January, but if it is, it make for a
pleasant afternoon ride, sort of a miniature Durango & Silverton.
	Portmerion, (just South of Porthmadog) is an Italianate village (where
they filmed the cult series "The Prisoner" with Patrick McGoohan in the '60s)
They also make nice pottery there.
	I would make my decision based on the weather, realising that January
can be the cruellest month.
	If the weather is going to be dismal, I would tend to gravitate to the
South-East and visit Cambridge, or Salisbury (probably the former because it
offers more "indoor type" things and doesn't require cross-London travel)

Like the rest of my countrymen, I could go on and on with somewhat dubious
commentary, but I won't.

	Address all flames to dev/null

David N. Chorley, in exile in Oklahoma.