From: olga@csiatl.Gwinnett.COM (olga from the volga)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: PLEASE!  I need your help!  Help me keep this love alive!
Date: 3 Oct 92 13:11:40 GMT

stank@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Stan Krieger) writes:

> Alberto Adolfo Pinkas writes:
> 
> >Set her free? What makes yoy think that he has her trapped and not the
> >other way around? 
> >Maybe she does not set him free.
> >What makes you think that breaking with him will be less agonizing
> >for her than breaking with her parent's traditions?
> >What makes you think that he is pressuring her to marry him?
> >
> >There is a vialble solution for this problem: To tear down all traditions
> >that keep some people blind.
> 
> There are three certainties in this world- death, taxes, and Jews marry
> only other Jews.


> 
> A Jew marrying outside the religion is showing nothing but contempt for
> the religion, for his or her coreligionists, and for our Law and tradition.
> It's unfortunate that there are people within our religion for whom the
> religion, and its history and tradition, mean so little.
> 
> The telling of the Jew in this unfortunate situation that she's grown up
> and no longer accountable to her parents is also a bunch of crap.  If she
> were truly grown up, she would've known from the start not to date
> outside the religion, and she would've had enough respect for her
> parents to not even consider marriage to the non-Jew as an option.
> 
> Growing up is not when your sex organs, or the state, tell you you're
> an adult; it's when you outgrow the mentality that only what's good
> for you counts, and instead you realize that your actions can hurt
> other people and that you're accountable to these other people.
> 
> -- 
> Stan Krieger                 All opinions, advice, or suggestions, even
> UNIX System Laboratories     if related to my employment, are my own.
> Summit, NJ
> smk@usl.com



Stuff it Stan.  Sometimes you have to look after yourself.  If I had 
listened to the folks as you say, I would be married to some boring 
Jewish Doctor/Dentist/lawyer and living in Suburban Philadelphia.  
Let me tell you I would have taken poison, if I hadn't died of sheer 
boredom first!  I remember my dating years.  Nobody in the family  or 
the community gave a rats ass if I was happy or not, only if I was 
dating the "right" kind of guy.  It didn't  matter if he was nice,a 
skunk or what, as long as he was a member of the tribe.  I remember 
there were a few guys I didn't  want to see anymore, and they would 
be pushed on me by my family( the details of this  are dull), solely 
because of their being Jewish.  My brother just broke his engagement 
to a girl from the "right" kind of family.  I think my mom at this point
would just like him  to find someone to be  with that would be a 
companion to him and be happy with him.  My mom finally said to me that 
she is glad I  married Peter, that happiness in life is just so important.  
She has come a long way.  

If this is the kind of crap my kids would hear ( if we ever 
have any) when they go to Hebrew school, I wowuld just as soon my 
husband take them to a church he likes.  I didn't like hearing this
narrow minded bigotry in Hebrew school when I was a kid, I certainly
wouldn't subject any child of mine to it.  If you don't think about 
what is good for you, nobody else will!


olga@csiatl.gwinnett
YOW!
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