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From: CENG51@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Craig Witkowski)
Subject: Re: Building Stockcars
Organization: Motorola
Date: 29 Dec 1992 12:27:25 CST

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------

I need help buuilding a stock car actually I want to drive stockcar but I don't
know how to get in it.  I would love if Darrel Waltrip or (Richard Petty is my
hero) or Rusty Wallace or somebody would give me the chance to race and turn a
few laps to prove myself worthy.  Anyone out there listening or can help me
out, I don't even have to run laps, I JUST WANT TO LEARN!!!!!!

Thanks.

PS I really don't know ow to use the net but I'm on Magic Systems and can be rea
here.  Oh well I hope someone can figure it out and help me out.


---------------------------------- Reply -----------------------------

I took the Fast Track Driving School at Charlotte Motor Speedway this year
and found it a thoroughly worthwhile experience.  Three days of driving
Busch, Sportsman and Winston Cup cars in a basic oval course for $1800
was a fantastic "vacation"!

Call 704-455-1700 for more info.  Ask for Andy Hillenburg (chief instructor)
and he'll tell you all about the program.  They also hold classes at
Atlanta Motor Speedway and Phoenix International Raceway several times during
the year.  Good Luck!


Craig Witkowski, CENG51@maccvm.corp.mot.com
Motorola Communications & Electronics Inc.
Glen Rock,  NJ

Let's Go Racin'!
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Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: markn@ssd.comm.mot.com (Mark Nowak)
Subject: Need help with resisting shift lever
Organization: Motorola
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 13:50:21 GMT

I drive a manual transmission '87 Chevy Nova with 104,000 miles on it.
I'm still on the original clutch, and it's not slipping (seems fine).
In the past month, it's been getting harder to shift between gears.
It used to be a lot smoother, but now I can feel resistance and hear
the shift a lot more.  It's usually worse when it's cold when I'm
just starting the car and gets a little better as the car warms up.
The clutch is hydraulic, but the fluid level is fine (I've checked the
level and pumping the clutch doesn'y help at all.  I've had the manual
transmission fluid replaced and that had no effect as well. 

Any ideas would very much be appreciated.  I'm afraid that if I take the
car in they'll make up something complicated (and expensive) up when it
might be something easily fixed.  If you have any ideas, please let me
know.  Thanks.
-- 
Mark Nowak                          | By means of the easy and the simple we
Motorola, Inc.                      | grasp the laws of the whole world.  When
Chicago, Illinois                   | the laws of the whole world are grasped,
INTERNET: markn@ssd.comm.mot.com    | therein lies perfection. - I Ching
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: shankx@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (n.k.shankaranarayanan)
Subject: Books/tapes on driving
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:41:48 GMT

I am teaching my wife to drive. She has not driven before.
She is learning on our manual transmission (5-speed) car.
I do have experience teaching one other person. I have found that
while one can teach driving, one tends to pass on certain subjective
notions on driving. These may be wrong. Also, I am sure there
must be effective instruction techniques. 

This is a good time to instil good/safe driving habits. Maybe I can
correct some of my driving habits. Can anyone recommend books or videotapes
on teaching/learning driving, safe driving, proper way to use a 
manual transmission (clutch, gear shifting etc.).

Thanks!

-Shankar
From: JTCHEW@lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: More Police Intimidation
Followup-To: rec.autos.driving
Date: 22 Dec 1992 17:30:10 GMT
Organization: Honest Ernie's Used Ions
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.252.152

>     I was traveling on I-70 at a liesurely 72 mph when I sighted a patrol
>     car going in the other direction.  We established eye contact and I 
>     pulled over before he had a chance to light up.  

Uh, oh... he thought he had a real dream bust -- a novice narco-
trafficker who sees a cop and pulls a "Midnight Express."  No wonder!

Reminds me of a funny story I heard on the radio the other day.  The
announcer was interviewing synth-pop whiz Thomas Dolby.  Seems 
that Dolby and a friend were driving along a back road in Louisiana
when they got pulled over.   There was reason to believe that the sun
might grow larger and cooler while the nice officer figured out what 
to do with a green license and a foreign traveler's papers.  So he told 
the cop, "You've got a great profile -- how would you like to be in a 
music video?"  
 
Dolby said that not only did it work out well, but they saved a lot of 
time on the shoot because the cop would hit his lights and siren 
every time they ran into heavy traffic.

You and I probably couldn't pull it off, though.  :)

Joe
"Just another personal opinion from the People's Republic of Berkeley"
From: rl@socrates.ucsf.edu (Robert Langridge)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Need info on Skip Barber driving school
Date: 29 Dec 92 22:49:38 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

george@access.digex.com (George Tsibouris) writes:

>Has anyone been to their one or two-day courses?  Did you learn anything?
>Did you feel that you got your money's worth?  Any information would
>be greatly appreciated.

I haven't been to the Barber school, but I took the one day street driving
course at Sears Point when Bob Bondurant ran it.  If, as I suspect, they are 
very similar, I highly recommend it.  I learned a lot and definitely felt that
I got my money's worth.

Bob Langridge    		       Phone: +1 415 476-2630, -1540, -5128
Computer Graphics Laboratory		               FAX: +1 415 476-0688 
926 Medical Sciences
University of California	                    E-Mail: rl@cgl.ucsf.edu
San Francisco  CA  94143-0446 
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: morton@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Brent Morton)
Subject: Re: What are some common myths about driving?
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 04:19:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec24.144208.9227@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> bqueiser@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Brian J Queiser) writes:
>oyalcin@iastate.edu (Onur Yalcin) writes:
>
>>One most common that I know is the belief that the doors should be locked
>>during travel. This is as much wrong a belief as it is widespread.
>>Actually, the doors are recommended to be *unlocked* during travel, so that in
>>case of an emergency (driver and passangers unconscious after a crash), people
>>would be able to open them from outside as quick as possible.
>>Some cars actually have a mechanism that pops the door locks open during a
>>crash.
>
>I think this information is entirely incorrect (but, hey, I've been wrong
>before).
>
>Reason why is this:
>
>Car doors *should* be locked during travel for safety reasons.  First safety
>reason is: carjacking, mugging, etc.  Second reason is:  door locks help
>prevent door from opening during an accident.  Onur has it backwords; some
>manufacturers put automatic *locking* mechanisms into doors, so that they
>*lock* during a crash.  In fact, some newer cars have a "feature" that

Onur does not have it backwards; you will find that late-model BMWs have a
sophisticated locking system, including a feature that will unlock the doors
in the event of a crash, as logic would dictate. 

Note that the system is sophisticated enough to allow the DRIVER to lock the
doors should he so desire while underway. 

-- Brent
morton@artifis.gaul.csd.uwo.ca
From: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: How Fast are They Driving Out There?
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:09:45 GMT
Reply-To: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.  Engineering

In article <1728@tekgen.bv.tek.com>, tkpowell@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Terry 
Powell) writes:
> I recently got into a bit of a flame fest over on wreck.motorcycles
> involving a statement I made on speed in the USA.  Basically I questioned
> a statement made that there were a lot of folks out there traveling at
> 100mph.  I said I doubted there were many traveling at 100 mph in fairly
> heavy traffic (I didn't define heavy traffic).  Anyway, I got quite a few
> responses indicating that I obviously hadn't driven on IXXX lately.  Now
> I'm really curious.  Whats the average speed on your daily commute?  How
> fast are the 'flyboys' going?  What are the off hour speeds?  Reports from
> the great wide open?  A few people mentioned that police patrols were
> virtually non existent in the fast areas (makes sense).  Are they cutting
> back in your area?
> 
> Later		

In the western US, where distances are fairly large between cities the
speeds are pretty high.  On I-5, I would normally see about 80 MPH or 75 MPH.

For the past several years, I go to San Bernardino or Monrovia several
times a year, and take 101 to Paso Robles and then go across on 46
to I-5.  On 101 and I-5 the average is about 80 MPH.  I am not the 
fastest car.  On parts of 46 I have seen some cars doing about 115 MPH,
depending on traffic.

I usually go out to San Berdoo on 138, which cuts across the Mojave
desert, and a car can achieve 130 MPH for short periods.  A cruising
speed of about 105 to 115 MPH can be achieved on the Antelope Valley
section of this road.  About every fifth car is going at near 100+,
I would say.

In the Bay area where I live during rush hour no one goes any faster
than 55 - 65 depending on when and where.  A commute of 60 miles
one way is not unusual in this area.

Of course I never exceed 55 MPH except on those roads designated for
65 MPH.  


Tom Pickett 
tpickett@auspex.com or 74616.2237@compuserve.com
SHO  GOZE
From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: What are some common myths about driving?
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:10:44 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <knauer.724919190@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu> knauer@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Rob Knauerhase) writes:

>No matter how good public
>transit gets, no matter the cries of "railroads!  See how they work in 
>[Europe,
>India, wherever]", you generally have to have a car to go to work, to shop for
>groceries, etc.

>This is a particular sticking point of mine; so many people are so willing to
>ban cars, tax gasoline, revoke licenses for minor offenses, etc.  They do not
>realize however that in the real world (as applies to most of America) 
>you just have to have a car.

This is a curious point. Do you mean that the Real World (tm) consists
of most of America, and perhaps some parts of Europe and India? If so,
that would explain how I, living all my life in various parts of the
UK, have managed to raise a family and pursue a professional career
without ever feeling the need to own a car: obviously I don't live in
the Real World. In the strange Unreal World I inhabit a car is not
only inconvenient and expensive, but usually a slower way of getting
from from A to B.

-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: akyol@leland.Stanford.EDU (Bora Aydin Akyol)
Subject: Re: What are some common myths about driving?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 05:59:08 GMT

In article <BzqGox.Ix4@news.iastate.edu>, oyalcin@iastate.edu (Onur Yalcin) writes:
|> One most common that I know is the belief that the doors should be locked 
|> during travel. This is as much wrong a belief as it is widespread. 
|> 
|> Actually, the doors are recommended to be *unlocked* during travel, so that in 
|> case of an emergency (driver and passangers unconscious after a crash), people 
|> would be able to open them from outside as quick as possible.
|> 
|> Some cars actually have a mechanism that pops the door locks open during a 
|> crash.
|> 
|> Onur.
|> -- 
Unless of course you happen to be in SAN Francisco Area where
car jackers are around.
BORA
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: hellmann@cs.scarolina.edu (Doug Hellmann)
Subject: Re: How Fast are They Driving Out There?
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Distribution: na
Date: 23 Dec 92 03:21:02 GMT

tkpowell@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Terry Powell) writes:

>I'm really curious.  Whats the average speed on your daily commute?  How
>fast are the 'flyboys' going?  What are the off hour speeds?  Reports from
>the great wide open?  A few people mentioned that police patrols were
>virtually non existent in the fast areas (makes sense).  Are they cutting
>back in your area?

I live in Columbia SC, and if any of you have ever driven on I26 or I126
going into downtown, you'll back me up that it literally turns into a
parking lot.  Sometimes you can hit 55 during rush hour, but there will
always be some stupid putz in the left lane doing 40 who you can't get
around.Those are the few times I actually wish for a cop, althouh that
stretch of road is rarely patrolled, and it's pretty flat, so when there
are cops, you can see them in time to slow down.
  When it's not rush hour, there's no telling.  I've had peopl
whiz by me at 95 (I'm usually around 70), but the vaste
majority of people do about 65 in the 55.e

Samantha (posting from my man's account until I get my own...)

Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Subject: Re: "Most Tastelss Car Accessory Listing"
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 93 00:19:05 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa

In article <1hud7jINNb7v@meaddata.meaddata.com> dlovely@meaddata.com (David Lovely) writes:
>The all-time tasteless bumper sticker award goes to:
>	"Protect American Jobs, Buy American Made"
>
>It was on the back of a Toyota Corolla!
>
>This is absolutely true!

Did you check the VIN?  The Corolla could have been American-made.
(As American made as the Geo Prism or Chevy Nova, anyway...)
-- 
Matthew T. Russotto	russotto@eng.umd.edu	russotto@wam.umd.edu
Some news readers expect "Disclaimer:" here.
Just say NO to police searches and seizures.  Make them use force.
(not responsible for bodily harm resulting from following above advice)
Xref: sparky rec.autos.driving:7390 misc.legal:21965
From: mark@whizbang.wariat.org (Mark W. Schumann)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,misc.legal
Subject: Radar: "Judicial Notice"
Distribution: world
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 22:49:16 GMT
Organization: The Software Sweatshop, Cleveland, Ohio USA
Reply-To: mark@whizbang.wariat.org


Where do I go to find out whether a particular make and model of
stationary radar has gained "judicial notice" in my state?  I have
access to a law library if needed.

Please email replies, or if you feel inclined give me a call at
+1 216 351 1153.  I would be happy to reverse charges or call you
on my nickel.

Thanks to anyone who can contribute information.

--
Mark W. Schumann/3111 Mapledale Avenue/Cleveland, Ohio 44109-2447 USA
Domain: mark@whizbang.wariat.org                      CIS: 73750,3527
"We're not nuts or anything; I mean *I'm* not nuts." <whizbang!judy>
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: Mike.Oniffrey@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Oniffrey)
Subject: Re: How to answer the Officer when pulled up?
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:07:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.193437.26773@news2.cis.umn.edu> prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu
(Satya Prabhakar) writes:

	When the cop came by and asked me, "Do you know what speed
	you were going at?" I replied, "35!"

	While handing over the citation he said, "You have the right
	to appeal the citation, but remember that you *admitted*
	driving over the [posted] speed limit of 30!'

	Would it have been wise on my part to just have said that I
	was traveling within the speed limit?

I have seen and heard the judge in traffic court ask the defendant, "So
tell me, Mr. X, exactly how fast WERE you driving in this 45 MPH zone?

The defendant will say, "Well, your Honor, I wasn't speeding - I was going
no more than 46 or...

"GUILTY!" bellows the judge, and bangs the gavel.  It really happens.

Cops pick up on this technique and use it in the field.  Remember Miranda: 
"Anything you say can and will be used against you".  Satya, you ask if it
would have been better to have just said you [thought] you were travelling
within the speed limit.  I would say, yes. 

Answer questions directly, but think before you engage yer mouth.  I'm not
suggesting you lie. The cop's job is to catch you and write you up, not
judge you, although he may try if you give him the chance.  If you talk to
the cop, guess who's words will come back to haunt you when the cop takes
the stand in traffic court? (cf: Miranda).  If you have a disagreement
about the citation, save it for the judge. 

Never show disrespect to the cop; s/he's only doing his/her job.  There's
nothing in the above text that says you can't do all I've suggested with a
happy face and a cheerful dispostion.  Who knows?  It might get the cop to
just turn you loose.  Cops ARE human... 


Mike "Now, officer, you know I would never DELIBERATELY speed" Oniffrey
--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
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Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: oyalcin@iastate.edu (Onur Yalcin)
Subject: Re: What are some common myths about driving?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:19:44 GMT

One most common that I know is the belief that the doors should be locked 
during travel. This is as much wrong a belief as it is widespread. 

Actually, the doors are recommended to be *unlocked* during travel, so that in 
case of an emergency (driver and passangers unconscious after a crash), people 
would be able to open them from outside as quick as possible.

Some cars actually have a mechanism that pops the door locks open during a 
crash.

Onur.
-- 
Xref: sparky rec.autos.driving:7371 misc.legal:21889
From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Cars, tape recorders, and the police...
Date: 31 Dec 92 17:07:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Dec31.170700.7942
Distribution: usa
Organization: Western Washington University


	Re: cam in police car.
kckbxr@next09wor.wam.umd.edu (Robin Hood) writes:
>car or to its side).  Videotaping would definately help crime control, but  
>it may infringe on an individual's due process rights.  I think that if  

	How?

>police were granted the right to videotape a suspect, a suspect should be 
>granted the equal opportunity/right to videotape as well.  

	Is that not the case now?   What law could possibly stop me from 
	installing a videocam in my car to record transactions with police?

Jim Del Vecchio
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: dman@netcom.com (Dallman Ross)
Subject: Re: How Fast are They Driving Out There?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 08:10:15 GMT

Kenneth Crudup (kenny@osf.org) wrote:
: In article <1992Dec29.204304.13425@netcom.com>
: dman@netcom.com (Dallman Ross) writes:

: >In the last 6 months, I've seen 4 or 5 groups of cars shooting through
: >medium-density traffic on urban freeways at up to 110.

: How do you know how fast they were going?

Educated guess.  I was doing 75.  They shot by me with about a 30mph
edge.  I briefly sped up to 88 figuring they'd be the cop-bait, but
they continued to pull away fairly quickly.  This happened on two
occasions of the four or five I cited.

: >Looked like gang members chasing one another or like cruisers having a
: >contest on the freeway. Wouldn't be surprised if the drivers were all high.

: Oh give us a BREAK, willya? Hell, you left out the obligatory "While I was
: driving my 5-year-old daughter home from her dance recital, I've seen...."

*You* give*me* a break, will ya, bud?  No, no daughters.  I drive 
aggressively but not insanely.  When I lived in Germany and had my 
GS1000 motorcycle over there, I'd blast up and down the Autobahnen 
at an indicated 132.  

I've lived in and around Oakland most all my life, and I think I can
tell a gang car when I see one.

I have no problem with speed.  I do object to wild lane-changes in
medium to heavy traffic at 40 to 50mph above the average speed.  We're
talking obstacle-course style driving, like on the video-racer games.

: "Cracked-out gang-member cruise-car chases- on the next Donahue." <snicker>

Oh, <snicker> yourself.  There do exist coked-out idiots out there, ya
know.  Why is it so hard to believe that I've seen a few over 6 months
on the urban part of I-80?

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