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From: peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (Peter D. Merholz)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: The Adjuster
Date: 21 Aug 1992 00:43:15 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu

I saw this about a month ago, and while I guess I liked it, the film was
just too obscure for my tastes... Why can't directors have plots, instead of
just some mildly interesting characters... Why must they obscure meaning...
To make it "art"? Well, I don't think they succeed... I think this movie 
would have been much better had their been a storyline it was attached to...
(I have similar feelings about ZENTROPA)

--Peter M.

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: ttak@ellis.uchicago.edu (toki  takeuchi)
Subject: Steven Hawking's Movie!!! etco  Yey!
Reply-To: ttak@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 02:12:33 GMT

I just read that there is a film on Steve Hawking, the
Lou G. British physicist?  It'snot yet in Chicago, but
I heard that it is in LA and NY.  Anyone seen it yet?
Any good?  I look forward in seeing it.

Kenji Takeuchi
From: boris@math9.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de (Boris Hemkemeier)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Bis ans Ende der Welt
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:17:25 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Bielefeld, Germany


W.W. announced a 8+ h directors cut version of "Bis ans Ende der
Welt" (at least for germany).

--
			  "Say no to bugs!"
Boris Hemkemeier	boris@math10.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: mol@jyu.fi (Mika O. Latokartano)
Subject: Re: Speaking of Ridley Scott...
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:34:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.075557.16769@walter.cray.com> matt@cray.com (Matthew Marchese) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.081105.28934@jyu.fi> mol@jyu.fi (Mika O. Latokartano) writes:
>>
>> 	Philip K. Dick had the chance to see Blade Runner before he
>>  died.  Although there are some differences between the book and the
>>  movie, PKD said about RS's Blade Runner "It is beyond my wildest
>>  dreams!" (paraphrased).  BR is apparently just what PKD wanted it to be.
>				             ^^^^
>This ain't necessarily so. I am reminded of the scene in "Amadeus" where
>Soliari asks Mozart what he thought of his opera and Mozart replies,
>"I never knew such sounds existed...One hears such things, and one can
>only say, 'Soliari'!". In other words, he hated it.
>

  Yes, well, I guess that is a possibility, but the article clearly meant
  that PKD was very pleased by the film - not that he was being sarcastic.

	- Mika
-- 
[  Mika O. Latokartano  Internet : mol@jyu.fi     mol@vipunen.hut.fi          ]
[  mol@puukko.hut.fi    Decnet : mol@jylk.decnet  Bitnet : mol@finjyu.bitnet  ]
From: muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au (Murray Chapman)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: The Wall
Date: 20 Aug 92 04:15:53 GMT
Reply-To: muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au

In <18AUG199222550745@apsicc.aps.edu> larson_s@apsicc.aps.edu (Shawn Larson) writes:

>In article <Bt6yp8.63A@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tjz20735@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Zych) writes...
>>>Who does understand this movie?

> I've personally figured out most of it, but the part that I have absolutely
>no idea about is the part where he becomes a fascist leader.  Anybody have
>a clue on that one?

Pink is sick of the whole rock and roll business... people who only want him
because of his music, rather than him personally. (Remember his tour manager
slapping him out of his drugged-out state so he can do the show?).

Anyway... as time goes on, he begins to despise his "stage" persona, as this
side of his personality is destroying the "real" him.  This "stage" persona
takes on characteristics that the "real" Pink hates: Nazis.  (Remember his
father was killed in the war?).  Also, the idea of the Hitler Youth and his
fans: an unstoppable force of mindless and misguided youth.  (Listen to the
end of "Waiting for the Worms").

>Shawn

Murray Chapman
muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: hannu@polaris.utu.fi (Hannu Pajunen)
Subject: Re: Diana Rigg (Emma Peel) Nude?
Keywords: the avengers
Organization: University of Turku
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 09:59:15 GMT

In article <Aug.10.10.14.43.1992.23410@clam.rutgers.edu> gonzalez@clam.rutgers.edu (Ralph Gonzalez) writes:
>
>Does anyone know of any films in which Diana Rigg (Emma Peel of
>the Avengers) appeared nude?  I thought I heard there was one...
>

Well, not *completely* (you know what I mean) nude, but her legs are
well featured in "Evil under the sun" (based on a book by Agatha
Christie).

Hannu
From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Steven Hawking's Movie!!! etco  Yey!
Date: 23 Aug 92 13:18:22 GMT
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX

In article <1992Aug22.182008.8954@williams.edu> 93asw@williams.edu (Andrew Wright) writes:
>In article <1992Aug22.021233.11783@midway.uchicago.edu> ttak@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>I just read that there is a film on Steve Hawking, the
>>Lou G. British physicist? 
>
>Interesting film by Errol Morris, the director of Thin Blue Line,
>Vernon Fl, etc.  Soundtrack by Phillip Glass (who also did TBL).

I answered the original post before checking for followups. Thanks
for the information.

>cinematograohy too.  "Which came first the chicken or the egg?" is the
>first line of the movie, and the effect Morris uses to punctuate this
>shouldn't be spoiled by premature revelation.

It's shown in the previews :-(


Vickie


"The people of Eastern europe got rid of their left wingers, it is
 time we in America got rid of our left wingers!"

            Pat Robertson, in a speech to the delegates of the
            1992 Republican National Convention

"There is a religious war going on in our country for the soul of America!"

            Pat Buchanan, in a speech to the delegates of the
            1992 Republican National Convention


Welcome to America!!
From: charles@sunshine.Kodak.COM (Joseph J. Charles)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Animation Videos (was Re: Animated Short Question)
Date: 17 Aug 92 12:58:37 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY

This is the information that I promised about the video company that puts
out the animation videos that are compilations from the Animation
Celebrations that are shown in movie theaters.  Sorry it took me so
long to post this, but hey...

The address is: EXPANDED ENTERTAINMENT
                PO BOX 25547
		LOS ANGELES CA  90025

Since the original poster wanted to know where to find "The Big Snit,"
it is on the tape called "Incredible Manitoba Animation" and in
addition to "The Big Snit," it includes: The Cat Came Back, Get a Job,
The Cat Strikes Back, Carried Away, and the *very* funny "Getting
Started," plus a few others.

I have ordered some tapes from them, and they are professionally
packaged, good-quality tapes.  A decent company overall.

Some important information... * Available in US & Canada only
                              * Allow 4-6 weeks for delivery
                              * All tapes VHS only
                              * Not available in video stores
                              * In CA add 8.25% sales tax

If you don't want to purchase a tape but would like to be put on their
mailing list, just send a note to ANIMATION, PO BOX 25547, LOS ANGELES
CA 90025, and they will be happy to add you to the list.  They send
out a new pamphlet every few months or so.

As an added treat, I will mention that they also have "Lupo the
Butcher" and "Jac Mac and Rad Boy Go" on video.  Classics in their own
right.  Enjoy!
From: Eric T. Jue <etjue@lbl.gov>
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Eskimo (minor heathers spoilers...)
Date: 17 Aug 1992 22:05:56 GMT
Organization: LBL
Distribution: world
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In article <crunch.714070290@camelot> Randy Bloom,
crunch@camelot.bradley.edu writes:
>You have a copy of the shooting script?
>
>Could you send me one?

The script is about 200 pages which would be too much for me to
copy and send, sorry.

I have to look at the script again, but isn't it "Super Chug
with that?  No, but if you're nice I'll let you buy me a
Slushee."

Eric T. Jue
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: rtpo@jyu.fi (Risto Tapani Pohjonen)
Subject: Re: PATHFINDER
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:23:26 GMT

In article <whitlock.67.0@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu> whitlock@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Reid E. Whitlock) writes:
>I don't remember the name of the Norwegian director who did this film, but 
>I'd like to know whether he has directed anything else that is available 
>with American subtitles. 

 The director was Nils Gaup. I'm not sure, but I think PATHFINDER is his
first and only feature lenght movie. 

>This was an excellent movie that might not be traditional cult material (a 
>contradiction in terms>) but definitely qualifies in my book as SOME kind of 
>cult.

 There is also one big thing to make PATHFINDER more interesting. It was
produced by the lappish minority of Norway (with some help from lappish
people in Sweden and Finland) and I think it's the only feature lenght
movie made by them.

-- 
- Risto 'Rise' Pohjonen (rtpo@jyu.fi): I hate signatures !

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: DARIO ARGENTO
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:15:34 GMT

In article <1684980FA.PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Peter Correnty) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.172946.25745@news2.cis.umn.edu>
>donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
> 
>>
>Key Video and Eccentri-Cinema have the uncut 107 min. version of INFERNO;
>I've even timed it myself to be sure ... and the video has been
>transferred (beautifully, I might add) at normal speed.
> 
>Eccentri-Cinema and Domovideo both have the uncut 121 min. version of
>DEEP RED, which I also have on video and have seen.  The "head
>squishing" is completely intact, as well as other bits of gore.
> 
>Eccentri-Cinema has the uncut version of BIRD with the animal cruelty
>and rape scene.
> 
>Video Search of Miami and Eccentri-Cinema have the uncut version (101
>mins.) of TENEBRAE.  The edited version has been released as UNSANE
>and it eliminates two extra shots of the gruesome dismemberment.
> 
>Eccentri-Cinema has the uncut version of FOUR FLIES ON GREY VELVET.
>It didn't have a wide release here in the US in the 70s, but it still
>plays every summer in NYC ... also uncut.
> 
>Eccentri-Cinema carried CAT O' NINE TAILS uncut.  The quality is
>excellent, and the packaging is great!  Other companies carry it in
>a chopped version, usually recorded in LP mode.
> 
>Pete.

I was referring to the major releases. I was unaware that any other versions 
existed, since it is rare for two companies to market different versions
of the same film. Where do I get addresses for these companies!
BTW, since no one mentioned it yet, Inferno features an excellent score
by Keith Emerson.
When was Cat O'Nine Tails released by other companies? I usually deal with
Video Vault, and had been told that it was unrelelased on video worldwide.
<Also, what company. I gotta have it!>

Thanks for the info!

				--Judex--


Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley)
Subject: Re: A Question for A BETTER TOMORROW experts
Reply-To: eprice@sql.sybase.com
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:26:40 GMT

DOBENSON@ua1vm.ua.edu (Joe Demon) writes:

>  More than a thousand Asian Movies? Arrrrghhhh. I wish my collection
>was somewhere near that large. As it is, I only have 30-40. But, if you
>have yet to watch BULLET IN THE HEAD (one of the finest epic Chinese
>movies made (compare to Apocolyupse Now)),

DEER HUNTER is much closer.  Compare the storylines: wedding, vietnam,
pow camp, crazed escape, transformation into psycho.  (I tried to be
vague enough not to spoil anything there...)

I'll second all of your recommendations--except that I haven't seen
MAGIC OF SPELL, where can one obtain it?

-Ed (not Tim), eprice@sql.sybase.com (not wildman@..) `Havana.' `Merci.'
From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: JODIE FOSTER NAKED
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:33:34 GMT
Organization: Ohio University School of Art. Athens

In article <1992Aug12.103525.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> dayrton@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>Hmmm.  Thee and BChurch (in a later post) seem to be confusing nude photography
>with pornography.  It is my understanding that you can photograph nude minors
>(i.e. baby photos) but the legal hackles get raised when it can be claimed
>that the images are of a, ah, sexually stimulating nature.   Just my two 
>cents worth....

Yes, I rethought that post (but too late too stop it). There does seem to
be some sort of vague line. I remember a couple being arrested when the 
lab sent the pictures they had taken of their nude baby to the feds. (Not
my lab mind you, it was a story in the photo trade magazines.
 It was pretty ridiculous but it seemed to stick. Speaking of this, there's 
the movie 'Circle of Two'. I don't know how old Tatum O'neill was at the
time since she didn't show her i.d. but pretty much everything else.



-- 
*********************************************
*    bob church                             *
*    bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu           *
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From: tsui@ils.nwu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: GODZILLA NEWS
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:13:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Institute for the Learning Sciences

In article <1992Aug12.172637.24204@news.columbia.edu>
dave@blackbox.cc.columbia.edu (David Milner) writes:
>Principal photography on GOJIRA TAI MOSURA has been completed.
>
>Post-production work will continue until the film's debut at the
>Tokyo International Film Festival at the end of next month.
>
>
>David Milner  Columbia University
>inet:   dave@blackbox.cc.columbia.edu
>usenet: ...rutgers!columbia!blackbox!dave
>        ...rutgers!columbia!blackbox.cc.columbia.edu!dave
>

a little side note, I just saw the teaser commercial for GODZILLA VS. CHARLES
BARKLEY last night.  It shows some very cool letterbox footage of Godzilla
stuff and at the end shows him putting on a pair of basketball goggles as
Barkley comes up to challenge him.

very funny stuff.

josh tsui
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: entpph@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Delicatessen
Reply-To: entpph@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 01:28:36 GMT

If the Mark Caro mentioned is the same one that attended Rochester
Institute of Technology in the early 1980's, then yes, he does have
and animation background.  I was his animation teacher.  Mark was
one of an especially talented group of painters that graduated from
RIT in 1982 or 83.  Mark was a giant talent in animation even as a 
student.  After graduation he went with Warner Brothers as a
builder of robots and later formed his own company to do work
in he exhibition business.  After that, I lost touch with him.
Based on your comments, I hope it's the same gujy.

Erik Timmerman
Film/Video
RIT
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick)
Subject: Re: Delicatessen
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:03:08 GMT

In <1992Aug10.040041.6719@williams.edu> 93rmm@williams.edu (Rhian Merris) writes:

>	Anyone seen Delicatessen?  Its a pretty cool French flick
>with very small release here in the States.
>				
>					Lord Jagged

I tried to append a comment to this earlier but I think I screwed up.
Sorry if its redundant:

I had said the film reminded me of a Jacques Tati film because it is
so visual and dialogue is quite secondary.  Evidently someone else on
the system, whose name I can't remember, concurs with me.  I have been
told that Jean-Pierre Jeunet and Marc Caro have an animation
background which could explain the film's rich visual "vocabulary".
Does anyone know for certain if this is the case?

                                        Ian
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick)
Subject: Re: Definition of Cult Movies
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:35:40 GMT

In <5020@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan) writes:

>In article <iroderic.713824504@cunews> iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick) writes:
>>In <1992Aug14.042229.21563@kum.kaist.ac.kr> wgcho@gorai.kaist.ac.kr (Wongyu Cho) writes:
>>
>>
>>Cult movies tend to pull together certain familiar motifs or what Eco
>>calls "inter-textual frames" which link the total narrative to other
>>narratives.  Hence the familiar "I'll be back" of Schwarzenegger

>Another example of pulling together motifs in cult movies is "Night of the
>Living Dead". The main motif is the racial issue (especially shown in the sour
>relationship between Ben and Harry) which comes up in movies like "Ricochet"
>(only here it is more pronounced as well as having more of a revenge thing
>added in).
>			Laurel
>  

Laurel,

Fancy finding you over here on alt.cult-movies.

Yes I think that can be used as an example but I would want to make a
distinction between theme and motif.  Racism and studies of racial
tension is certainly a familiar theme in film.  Such studies are often
realized through recurrent motifs.  An excellent example, to my mind,
though not from film are the previous season's ads by Benetton.  In
aprticular there is one which has three figures stcking their tongues
out at the viewer.  This is redundant with an etching by William Blake
entitled _Europe_Supported_by_Africa_and_America_.  Both profess to be
critiques of racial inequality but fall into the same trap of
privileging 'European' models of equality.  Likewise, though
infinitely superior, is the redundant motif of the survivors at odds
in _Night_.  In apocalyptic films the theme of racism and other
tensions is often realized by collecting but failing to untie the
survivors.  The survivors fail because they are unable and unwilling
to abandon anachronistic notions of race in this instance.  It has
been too long since I last watched _Night_ so I cant remember the name
of the black character but I would argue that racism contributes to
his being mistaken for a zombie just as, dare I say, Rodney King was
'mistaken' for a PCP user.

Ian.
From: DOBENSON@ua1vm.ua.edu (Joe Demon)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Where to buy cult flicks
Date: 17 Aug 92 11:52:06 GMT
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa

In article <1992Aug14.212640.13980@athena.mit.edu>
wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley) writes:
 
>I'll second all of your recommendations--except that I haven't seen
>MAGIC OF SPELL, where can one obtain it?
>
>-Ed (not Tim), eprice@sql.sybase.com (not wildman@..) `Havana.' `Merci.'
 
  Many people hav`;e asked me where I get my videos,and so I post this
address, but not first without warning all--with a diligent search, you
may be able to find them cheaper; don't, as someone in Finland did, whine
about the prices. Pompano Joe is expensive, but thorough. Also, he will
talk to anyone at length about any given movie, and tell you up front
whether he thinks the movie is any good.
  With that out of the way:
  Pompano Joe Torrez
  Video Search of Miami
  P.O. Box 16-1917
  Miami, Florida, USA
                 33116-1917
 
  Or call Pompano at 305-387-6807
 
  The price of a movie is $25 plus $2.90 for shipping/handling (USA, outside
of the U.S. may be more). Also, there is a one-time $10 start-up fee of
$10 for new members (for legal reasons).
  I have been dealing with Pompano for more than a year now, and have always
been satisfied with not only the videos that I get, but his recommendations.
It was Pompano Joe who recommended the Japanese movie _Ironman_ to me; and
Dr. Caligari, directed by Sayadian.
  Also--I have asked Pompano never to send or recommend a dubbed movie; I
prefer them letter-boxed or in the original language (usually Chinese or
Japanese). He is able to fulfill these requests.
  If you decide to call him (his hours are weird, but a recorded message
tells you when you can get in touch with Pompano personally), tell him
Joe Demon sent you. He doesn't know me by that name, yet, but he will.
 
 
 
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From: bagus@netcom.com (Mark E. Ruedy)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Tetsuo (_The Iron Man_)/Caligari
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:53:33 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Aug17.131416.12982@fwi.uva.nl> welter@fwi.uva.nl (Richard Welter) writes:
>DOBENSON@ua1vm.ua.edu (Joe Demon) writes:
>
>> 
>>>Japanese film "Tetsuo" <The Iron Man>. Obviously influenced by Lynch, with
>>>a bit of Cronenberg, and Raimi, mixed in. Black and Whit again enhances
>>>the films mood, and <much like Eraserhead> the film is non-synopsizable.
>>>Check it out if you get the chance. A must-see!
>>>
>>>                        --Judex--
> And here's another Tetsuo fan. The version I saw was also without subtitles
>so I'm not sure about what was said, but I've heard that at the end when 
>they've merged they talk about infecting the rest of the world.


That's right.  They are talking about taking over the rest of the world.
And for once I would like to see the sequel!

Funniest lines:
When the Ironman is fighting the woman (?) he says to her:
"Taste my sewer pipe!"

Somewhere when they show the Ironman in his completed form the sub-titles
read:
"...from the regular sized monster series."

I laughed my ass off!

mark
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (Two days and a wake-up...)
Subject: Re: suspiria [was Re: Wim Wenders filmography request]
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 08:16:15 GMT

[Question: how did this thread get from "Wim Wenders filmography request"
 to "Suspiria"?]

In article <BtBA71.FuE.1@cs.cmu.edu>, spot@CS.CMU.EDU (Scott Draves) writes...

} i think it works just fine on a video screen.

Ack! Ptui!

Well, yes, it may "work just fine on a video screen" in terms of size,
but if you're watching a pan-&-scan videotape, you're screwing yourself
out of a great viewing experience. I never saw the film in the theater,
but only on a letterboxed laserdisc. Seeing Argento's widescreen
compositions is a must for truly appreciating this film.

} i don't think it's a great film. certainly on a higher plane than
} standard stupid horror, but not top-notch either.

Plot-wise, I'd agree. If you think about the story too hard, it falls
completely apart. But as a visual and aural assault on the senses, it
*is* a great film.

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com