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From: leonardr@netcom.com (Leonard Rosenthol)
Subject: Re: Why doesn't someone write a ShutdownSound Extension?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 04:31:44 GMT

In article <BzH9Ms.DHn@ns1.nodak.edu> fleckens@plains.NoDak.edu (Clint Fleckenstein) writes:
>This is about the *best* time to play a sound (like the Looney Tunes
>"That's All Folks" sound).  Yet with all the cool and appealing types
>of extensions at the various FTP sites, there isn't anything to do a
>sound at shutdown.   
>
	I agree with you, and that was why I wrote the first one of these
(called oddly enough ShutDownSound INIT) back in 1987-88 right after Apple
put the needed hooks into the OS.

	Since then, all of the "common" sound extensions (SoundMaster, 
sndControl, etc.) all have a "shutdown sound" option. I suggest you give
one (or more) of them a look.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: gsmlrn@gsm001.mendelson.com (Geoffrey S. Mendelson)
Subject: Re: Expanding Classic to 8M ?
Organization: Mendelson.com
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:32:56 GMT

In article <92350.122843P88038@BARILVM.BITNET> Noam G. Nudelman <P88038@BARILVM.BITNET> writes:

>
>   Does anyone know of an expansion card for a Mac Classic that
>will allow the installation of 8 megabyte of memory.

It cannot be done (and still be useful). The Classic's rom sits 4 meg.
So if you could add memory, you would need to add some sort of bank switching
hardware to allow it to work. 

If you did add the bank switching hardware, with the right drivers you
could use it as a ram disk.

If you were to add a 68030 coprocessor card you might be able to do it,
but  make sure you ask before you buy it. I don't think these are worth
it because a 4/40 LCII is selling for $1000 (new at COMPUSA and several
other places) and an Classic II is about $1100. I expect that it would
not be too hard to sell a used Classic 4/40 for about $600.

Geoff.
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(215) 242-8712
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Distribution: world
From: Doug_Hanley@tcs.las-vegas.nv.us
Organization: Cyber Sanctum
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:21:19 PST
Subject: I am wondering where to get the ADSP tool?

Could some one please give me some help?
I have the old Com tool box, but no longer have the tools.
Do I have to send of to APDA?
Please reply via NetMail.
Thank you.
From: Rudolf R. Sinkovics <sinkovics@wu-wien.ac.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: X-Archie for Macintosh ?
Date: 14 Dec 1992 17:38:23 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Econ. & Bus. Admin., Vienna (Austria)
Distribution: world
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X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1

sinkovics@wu-wien.ac.at (Rudolf R. Sinkovics)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Soft_PC.  How compatible is it?
From: T.Stewart@massey.ac.nz (T.M. Stewart)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 00:23:08 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Keywords: PC emulation
Summary: Info required on PC emulator "soft-pc"
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c

Thanks to all those who responded to my PC emulation enquiry.

Soft-PC was mentioned a number of times.  Although it's likely to be slow,
just how compatible is it?  Do any users of Soft-PC have any comments?

Cheers

Terry Stewart

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| Terry Stewart                       T.Stewart@massey.ac.nz|
| Department of Plant Science                               |
| Massey University                                         |
| New Zealand                                               |
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From: bower@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Ty Bower)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Frequency Generator
Date: 17 Dec 92 02:11:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark

I'd like to use my Macintosh to produce sine waves of user-selected
frequencies.  Does anyone know of any software that will permit
me to do this?  Most of the sound related programs I've seen
in the FTP archives seems to be related to playing back sound and
sound resource files.  All I want is something where I can type
in a value and it will spit out a reasonably clean, continuous
sine wave at that frequency.

What provisions are available for programming the Mac sound chip?
Could it be done through something like Microsoft basic, or some
version of Pascal or Fortran?

Thanks...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: lam@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Josh Lam)
Subject: Is DT Launch v 1.0 System 7 compatible?
Organization: Honeywell Air Transport Systems Division
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 16:35:27 GMT

Hi,

I have DT Launch v 1.0 by CE Software Inc.  I was wondering if it is
compatible with system 7. Is it necessary to upgrade it to a later version
(if any) ?

Thanks in advance!

-- 
Josh Lam
Honeywell Inc
lam@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Distribution: world
From: Michael_J._Bell@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:32:27 EST
Subject: Re: What's ZiffNet?

Spare yourself. Ziffnet is a fairly lame bbs run by the macuser folk. Read the
inside cover of the mag for more info.
You can get into it from compuserve, or log on separately. Which you do
determines the cost, which I believe is $12/hr for 2400 bps and $6/hr for
less.
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From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: History was made today...
Date: 18 Dec 1992 19:55:53 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.pubs.stratus.com

In article <BzGoBt.Guw@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umcho000@ccu.umanitoba.ca  
(Connie Cho) writes:
> In article <1gqec8INN7e4@transfer.stratus.com>  
jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com writes:
> >In article <1992Dec17.170232.14346@netnews.louisville.edu>  
> >harpe@netnews.louisville.edu (Mike Harpe) writes:
> 
> >the market for the product they defined.  Today, PC does not
> >mean IBM: it means Gateway, or Dell, or Compaq, or Northgate,
> >or Swan, or Zeos.
> >
> This leads to a question which I have had since I heard about IBM's
> proposed cutbacks: just what are Gateway, Dell, etc. without a  
strong,
> at least somewhat innovative IBM? I was under the impression that
> most PC R&D is done by IBM. Just how viable is the clone industry  
now
> that IBM is in trouble? Come to that, just HOW much trouble is IBM
> in? Surely it isn't in as bad shape as Wang ended up in !?
> 

I don't think IBM has been the leader in innovation for years.
Most of the newest technology, high-end VGA, graphics accelerator
cards, multi-media enhancements, local bus, etc. have NOT
come from IBM but from clone manufacturers or board 
manufacturers.   The clone industry will stay very viable
with IBM in trouble.  Most people in buying a PC don't even
think of IBM, they just think PC.


--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
From: leonardr@netcom.com (Leonard Rosenthol)
Subject: Experts in compression (Re: Autodoubler)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:27:48 GMT

In article <mxmora-111292163056@css-mac1.sri.com> mxmora@unix.sri.com (Matthew Xavier Mora) writes:
>In article <1992Dec6.222713.24881@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>,
>jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore) wrote:
>> 
>> In article <BytouD.Dzz@iat.holonet.net> bwilliam@iat.holonet.net (Bill Williams) writes:
>> >Fact: I know someone who is an expert in compression technologies (if not
>> >*THE* expert for LZ based algorithms.
> 
>> Fact? how do _we_ know this is a fact? You better have proof if you wanna
>> call someone an "expert", let alone "*THE* expert". I consider Bill Goodman
>> an expert, because he wrote a fairly useful and well-designed compression
>> utility. I consider Raymond Lau an expert, because he wrote a compression
>> utility that has basically become an industry standard.
>
>I wouldn't consider Ray Lau an expert in compression since he used what was
>available at the the time. 
>
	Well, if you look at a 15 year old kid writing his first real 
application, that's true he used what was available.  However that was 1986/87
and he is now finishing up his degree at MIT and _IS_ an expert in compression
having written some of the new algorithms that we now use.

>Now, Ross Williams I would consider an expert
>and some of the other folx on comp.compression. Maybe that's who Bill is
>talking about.
>
	I agree with that as well, people like Ross and others in c.compression.
research, are the "experts".

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From: ajiang@lonestar.utsa.edu (Alexander X. Jiang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: How much are you paying for MacUser subscription?
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:06:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

The weird thing happened after i received two "professional courtesy" renewal
notices from MacUser.  Usually i just throw them in the trash because my
renewal won't be due till June of 93.  But I kept both notices this time and
guess what?  one notice entitles me a saving of 58% off the newstand price
which gives a "professional rate" of $14.97 for 12 issues.  On the other hand
The other one says a saving of 46% off and was $24.97 for 12 issues.

Both notices look almost identical except $10 difference in price.  If MacUser
is stupid enough to treat every subscriber differently (price-wise) then they
really goofed when they sent out two different price to the same customer.

Before you pay for your next year's subsciption, be sure you don't get ripped
off.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: eyee@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Sigma Ed)
Subject: memory chips swapping
Keywords: SIMMs
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:59:40 GMT

I have Mac IIsi with 17 MB of RAM (4 x 4MB SIMMS). If I buy a Mac IIvx with 5MB of
RAM, can I swap the memory between two computers? (ie. The IIsi will use the SIMMs
from the IIvx and the IIvx will use the SIMMs fromt he IIsi)

Can someone help me out?

Merry Christmas


Ed.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Simon_Kok@mindlink.bc.ca (Simon Kok)
Subject: Re: HP laserjet drivers
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:00:43 GMT

In article <01050023.l99bux@chinchilla.cars.com> chinchilla!niel@cars.com
writes:
>In article <29541@castle.ed.ac.uk> (comp.sys.mac.misc),
cbarton@festival.ed.ac.uk (C Barton) writes:
>>
>>Does anyone know if there is a mac driver for HP laserjet III. We have a
>>solitary mac user in the group and a new HP 4 with no postscript option.
>>If there were a mac driver for an HP III then I think they would be able
>>to print on the network.
>>                    Craig Barton.
>>
>
>Yes there is, but I believe it requires the PostScript option.
>Niel
>

Hi there.  The LaserJet III printer driver from GDT PowerPrint v2.0 does
support the new Hewlett Packard LaserJet 4 printer!

In a network situation, will you be sharing the LaserJet printer via an
electronic switch box?


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Technical Support Engineer                     AppleLink: GDT.MKT
GDT Softworks, Inc.                           CompuServe: 72137,3246
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From: bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig)
Subject: Is SpeedBeep incompatible with Disinfectant?
Organization: Starfleet Headquarters: San Francisco
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 14:34:09 GMT

I tried using SpeedBeep 2.0 recently, and it didn't work -- the
"Status" button reported that it had been installed, but something
else has changed the way your Macintosh beeps since then,' so it
wouldn't do its thing.

After a lot of init-swapping and rebooting, I traced the problem to
the Disinfectant INIT 2.9.  SpeedBeep works when this INIT is not
loaded, but does not work when it is loaded.  This is especially odd
because [1] Disinfectant shouldn't be messing with SysBeep() and [2]
it loads _before_ SpeedBeep, anyway.

Has anybody else seen this problem?  I'd like to be able to use
SpeedBeep to solve the annoying problem of my Mac halting everything
else it's doing just to beep at me, but I don't want to give up
Disinfectant.

-- 
_/_/_/  Brian Kendig                             Je ne suis fait comme aucun
/_/_/  bskendig@netcom.com                de ceux que j'ai vus; j'ose croire
_/_/                            n'etre fait comme aucun de ceux qui existent.
  /  Nolite te bastardes     Si je ne vaux pas mieux, au moins je suis autre.
 /    carborundorum.                                             -- Rousseau
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Distribution: world
From: Michael_D._Murie@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 15:14:37 EST
Subject: Re: QuickTime 1.5 speed

Jason Smith,jaesyn@carson.u.washington.edu writers:

> Is there somewhere I can find an app to convert between the QT1.0 and
> QT1.5 codecs?  I'd like to convert my old MooV's to the new format.

I don't know of any public domain program that does this. Apple distributed as
part of the QuickTime Starter Kit a utiliter called Movie Converter, and as
part of the QuickTime Developers Kit a utility called Convert to Movie (kind
of very similar programs) that can be used to do this. If you have either
VideoShop or Premiere, then you can use those programs to recompress too.
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From: Michael_J._Bell@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:26:21 EST
Subject: Re: Re:Re: Quadra 700 - How many monitors?

I believe if you use the PDS slot, the corresponding NuBus will not work.
It's one or the other.
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:20812 gnu.misc.discuss:4047
From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Apple/Novell merger discussed
Date: 18 Dec 1992 02:55:32 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <0soXVB23w165w@mantis.co.uk> mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk> writes:
>Yes.  So if Novell and Apple merged, you'd presumably boycott DOS and
>Netware.  And you'd have fun boycotting DR-DOS without boycotting
>MS-DOS, other OEM DOS versions, and Windows.

So because Lotus is being boycotted and since Lotus sells a spreadsheets
programs, then all spreadsheet programs must be boycotted?  Your argument
does not follow.

What does Novell have to do with MS-Windows?  Digital Research at one
time had a competing product called GEM, but Apple helped kill it.  I'm
sure Novell would love to get into the GUI system market again.  That
could be why they allegedly want this merger.

Why can't I boycott DR-DOS and not boycott MS-DOS?  They are
competitors, Novells wants people to buy DR-DOS, and Microsoft wants
people to buy MS-DOS.  Microsoft would be very glad if I boycotted all
Novell products, since they compete with them on client (??-DOS) and
server (Netware, LAN Manager) "operating" systems.

I have never ever used DR-DOS, although I hear it's pretty good.  I
could very easily never use it.  Or, I could never use MS-DOS again in
favor of DR-DOS, although this could be a bit more difficult for me.
I've got a choice.

I can easily never use Netware again, I'd use one of the many other
peer to peer systems for low end, and LAN Manager, Banyan VINES, NFS,
or whatever else there is on the market for high end.  I've got a
choice.

I do not see how you think Novell is totally essential to the Intel
compatible market.  It isn't.  I don't think any single company is any
more.  IBM, Intel, and Microsoft could disappear tomorrow and it
wouldn't do much at all except perhaps decrease certain parts in the
short run and increase competition in the long rung.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: ech5w@cyclops.micr.Virginia.EDU (Ewald C. Homan)
Subject: Optima bitmaps wanted
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:06:20 GMT

Hi,

I have lost my disk with the bitmaps of Optima. Can someone
please email me the 10 and 12 pt size.

Thanks in advance

Chris
ech5w@virginia.edu
Organization: Universit de Sherbrooke
Date: Friday, 11 Dec 1992 11:04:25 EST
From: <LDAA@UDESVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Toner cartridges for Personal Laserwriter LS


Does any one know which HP or Canon cartridges could be used
in a Personal Laserwriter LS?

Pierre Blackburn Ldaavm1.si.usherb.ca
From: ChazL@county.lmt.mn.org (Chaz Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Apple Quality is sh_t !
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:12:38 GMT
Reply-To: ChazL@county.lmt.mn.org (Chaz Larson)
Organization: LaserMaster Corporation

In article <1992Dec9.011901.1921@clark.edu>, watson@clark.edu (Dennis Watson) 
writes:
> In article <ByxKy4.Ev@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> 
jgraham@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu 
> (the End) writes:
> >I am starting to sympathise rather strongly with...
> >..."Apple quality is shit".
> >
> >I have finally paid off my $2300 SE/30 after two years.
> > [tale of woe deleted]

> We have been using macs here at the Clark College for quit a few years now.
> Our first was a 1MB Plus. (Remember when those were new??)  It is just now
> have trouble with its internal floppy.  None of our se's have had any 
> problems at all and they are well over 2 yrs old!!  Everybody makes a lemon
> now and then, i guess!!

My experience is the same as Dennis'.  My SE/30 has performed flawlessly 
since the day I bought it [May 1989], as has a friend's SE/30 [until last 
month, see below], purchased around the same time.  Neither of us are very 
nice to the machines, as we routinely toss them in the trunk and take them on 
a 5-hour ride to the cabin up north.

 > >Will the dying internal display effect the video card (Xceed 30-8) that
> >I just bought, as it displays on an external screen ?

Last month, pete's SE/30 had it's first failure; the internal video failed 
completely.  He has a Micron XCeed 8-bit card installed, and the external 
monitor continues to work fine.

chaz

..must think...bubble pipe will relax me and I think...
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: History was made today...
Date: 18 Dec 1992 18:45:01 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.pubs.stratus.com

In article <1992Dec18.163758.18923@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>  
meyers@lorenz.ocean.fsu.edu (Steve Meyers) writes:
> 
> Wouldn't it be sardonic if in a few years the only companies  
selling 
> DOS and OS/2 machines were Compaq and Dell? Perhaps we will no  
longer be  
> able use the phrase "IBM clone" if there is no IBM as it exists  
today.  
> What shall we say? IBM "legacies"?


The term "IBM clone" is becoming less and less common anyway.
Most people simply talk of PCs, or 486 machines.  Occasionally,
you'll here someone referring to a clone, but without the IBM
adjective.  

By the way, it won't just be Compaq and Dell. It'll also be
Gateway, and probably Northgate, Zeos, Hyndai, Swan, and few others.

--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com  

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: wjhrc@rc.rit.edu (Bill Hoagland)
Subject: Re: Looking for a font
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: RIT Research Corporation
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:08:48 GMT

In article <Byz1M9.8pB@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu
(Jason Osborne) wrote:

> There is a truetype font called POSTCRYPT which looks like letters
> dripping with blood.  Only place I have seen it is from the Underground
> Phont Archive, although it may be available via anonymous FTP.

Its on mac.archive.umich.edu in
/mac/system.extensions/font/type3/postcrypt.sit.hqx

or 
wuarchive.wustl.edu in 
/mirrors3/archive.umich.edu/mac/system.extensions/font/type3/postcrypt.sit.hqx

Bill Hoagland
wjhrc@rc.rit.edu
From: ccetaneh@nuscc.nus.sg (Woppee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Sound level on Quadra 900
Date: 11 Dec 92 03:35:34 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I notice that on my Quadra 900 if the Speaker volume is set to 0, the
bootup sound is very loud (if not the loudest). And similarly on some
games, if the speaker level is down to the minimum, its actually louder
than if it is at level 1. This problem is quite annoying as it always
draws alot of attention from my neighbouring colleagues. Does anyone else
have similar problem like myself? Is there a remedy to this? 

Many thanx in advance.

Regards,
JEFF
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: mf@dancer.cc.bellcore.com (fusco,marc)
Subject: Re: Mac software for Sale
Organization: Planet XTC
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 21:04:49 GMT

  Recent posts of Mac sotware makes me wonder:
Is it _legal_ to sell software that you have received
(paid or otherwise) updates for.
E.g., can a person sell Word 4.0 if they have paid for the upgrade
to Word 5.0?  What happens if the new owner wants to upgrade?

mf
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Nazedgi@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu (nazedgi)
Subject: Mac OS on a PC
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Public Macs, Yale University
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:33:19 GMT

Microsoft has declared the war on Macs from the moment they released
Windows. Apple sued to no avail and Windows sales are skyrocketing. Now
they have released Windows for workgroups and Video for windows (A
quicktime competitor) Why doesn't Apple port the OS to the PC world?  I
understand that it may hurt some of their hardware sales, but what would
hurt more, the MAC OS running on a PC or Windows machines? Apple has always
been touted as an excellent software company. Show it then! Stick it to
Microsoft the way they have been doing it to the Mac; make Bill Gates sleep
restless at night. I don't know how feasible it would be to port the OS,
especially since it would have to be compatible with DOS and Windows to be
competitive, but if it can be done I would like to see it. 

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Distribution: world
From: gpm@ultramac.uucp (Gerald McManama)
Organization: Odyssey Ultraware, Inc
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 06:38:08  CDT
Subject: floppy mailer source

  Need info on commercial sources supplying inexpensive single floppy disk
(3.5") mailers for US postal delivery. Want to buy in lots of 50 - 250, not
thousands. Don't need anything fancy. Thanks.
  Gerry McManama
  gpm@oui.com