HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cboeker@batph78.bnr.ca (Craig Boeker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Glanville/Falcons image ?
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:25:43 GMT
Reply-To: cboeker@bnr.ca
Distribution: na
Organization: BNR Atlanta

In article <1992Aug26.144523.25847@das.harvard.edu>, vreddy@das.harvard.edu (Venkatesh Reddy) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug26.133016.3189@brtph560.bnr.ca>, cboeker@batph78.bnr.ca (Craig Boeker) writes:
|> |> Here's a question for all of you outside of the Atlanta media region:
|> |> 
  stuff irrelevant to this post deleted 

|> 
|> PS: Perhaps YOU can tell me... what happened to Bartkowski? Where is he now?
|> DO they ever mention his name down there? Thanks...

I really can't say much of anything about Bartkowski.  I seem to remember
him being a color commentator on a local channel's coverage of last years
preseason games.  I missed both of the away preseason games this year
(stupid VCR isn't working right) and have season tickets so I go to the
home games.  The only mention of Falcon history seems to focus on the more
distant past when the Falcons were decent.  People like Jeff Van Note get
mentioned occasionally.

Some Falcons info about this season:
- Deion is still playing day to day with the Braves, no football decision
- Brian Jordan is playing baseball full time
- Jeff Donaldson (ex-Oiler) has moved to strong safety to replace Jordan
- Bruce Pickens (last years's #1 draft choice) has replaced Deion (for now)
- Rick Bryan (defensive end) retired after numbness after a hit
- This years #1 (offensive lineman?) won't sign, he doesn't believe in
  "slotting" (the players picked ahead of him and behind him signed but he
  won't sign for a salary between the salaries of those two players)
- Rison is threatening to play pro basketball if he doesn't get paid like
  the "2nd best reciever in the league" (I haven't heard anything about
  Rison since Rice signed, it will be interesting to see what happens)
- Drew Hill was picked up off plan B from Houston

Some info about the preseason game vs Philadelphia:
- Before Randall got hurt he ripped off a couple of long runs, the game would
  have been different if he'd played more
- The Falcons running attack still sucks
- It could be a long, ugly season if Deion stays out.  The secondary isn't
  the same without him and Jordan
- The first offensive play from scrimmage in the Georgia Dome was awsome.
  Haynes was quoted in that day's paper to the effect that he wanted the 
  first offensive play to be a bomb for a touchdown.

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| Craig Boeker                                                              |
| cboeker@bnr.ca        It was like that when I got here.		    |
| BNR Atlanta                                                               |
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: creasman@cheshire.oxy.edu (Scott Michael Creasman)
Subject: Re: Final Cardinals Roster anyone?? Also-A Thompson Trade rumors?
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 02:25:03 GMT

In article <13255@texsun.Central.Sun.COM> Bob.Netherton@dallas.Central.Sun.COM writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.123223.8847@cbnewsk.cb.att.com>, erk@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (eric.r.kierstead) writes:
>
>|> BTW- Are there any other Cards fans on the net besides
>|> Russ Smith and me?  
>
>Alas, try as I might, I just can't seem to turn my back on the Cards.
>Include me in the list of Cards fans, however small the list might be.
>
>Bob
>
I too, am a Cardinals fan.  Being from Phoenix I've
always tried to root for the local franchise.  Un-
fortunately their past couple seasons haven't 
merited a great deal of posting. Maybe this'll be 
the year...... well, maybe not.

Creas



Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: ledzep@wam.umd.edu (John Henry Bonham)
Subject: Fantasy League People
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:39:01 GMT

Anyone have some good Tight Ends I should pick?

Thanks

ledzpe@wam.umd.edu
err Ledzep@wam.umd.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: davewood@dendrite.cs.Colorado.EDU (David Rex Wood)
Subject: POOL - PICKS REVISED!!!!!  READ THIS!!!!! *************************
Organization: Universtiy of Coloardo, Boulder
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:16:09 GMT

The Miami-New England game was cancelled!  Please use this new form!

Week 1
------

PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK THE FORM BEFORE MAILING IT!

Mail this form to davewood@cs.colorado.edu with the word "picks" in the
subject line.  Be sure to choose one and only one team for each game.  Mark
your choice with an 'x' in the appropriate box.  Put your initials after the
word "Initials:" (ON THE SAME LINE!) at the bottom of the form.  If you have
questions about this form, send them with the subject "fbproblem."  If you
still need to sign up, YOU MUST SEND A SEPARATE MESSAGE with the word
"signup" in the subject line.  Do not reply to this message unless it is to
send in your picks.  See the Rules/Signup post for more information.

WEIGHTS: Assign 10 points to 4 different games.
	 Assign  7 points to 5 different games.
	 Assign  5 points to 4 different games.
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

**** NOTE CHANGE!!!!  NE-Miami game cancelled!!!  You get 5 free points!! ****

This form is due at 10 am PDT (5 pm GMT) on Sunday, Sep 6.  NO EXCEPTIONS!

Do not remove anything below this line!

 WT  Away			Home
*------------------------------------------------*
[  ] [ ] Cleveland		[ ] Indianapolis   
[  ] [ ] Detroit		[ ] Chicago          
[  ] [ ] LA Rams		[ ] Buffalo          
[  ] [ ] Minnesota		[ ] Green Bay      
[  ] [ ] New Orleans		[ ] Philadelphia 
[  ] [ ] NY Jets		[ ] Atlanta          
[  ] [ ] Pittsburgh		[ ] Houston       
[  ] [ ] Phoenix		[ ] Tampa Bay        
[  ] [ ] San Francisco		[ ] NY Giants  
[  ] [ ] Cincinnati		[ ] Seattle       
[  ] [ ] Kansas City		[ ] San Diego    
[  ] [ ] LA Raiders		[ ] Denver        
[  ] [ ] Washington		[ ] Dallas        
                               
Initials: 

DID YOU PUT YOUR INITIALS ON THE SAME LINE AS THE WORD INITIALS???  PLEASE DO!
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From: root@harvey.gte.com (System Account)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Sammie Smith put on IR
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:38:39 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories

In article <1992Sep2.161717.11362@cs.ucf.edu> tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.125019.19873@gvl.unisys.com> heath@gvls2.gvl.unisys.com (Ronald Heath) writes:
>>
>>Sammie was put on IR with groin injury.  So not know how long he will be out.
>
>Yeah but look on the bright side; it's extremely hard to fumble when
>you're sitting on the bench. 

That's true - but if anyone can do it, Sammie can!

--
Curt "I always pick the Dolphins - even against Buffalo!"  Fennell
			DOLFAN in New England.             
'72 Dolphins - The perfect team in the perfect season - 17-0
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: tkelsey@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (todd.p.kelsey)
Subject: Re: Packer notes
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:03:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.195802.28393@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.123116.6436@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, tkelsey@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (todd.p.kelsey) writes...
>
>
>>Terrell Buckley's agent came to Green Bay yesterday.  It appears Terrell
>>is close to signing a contract (just as you predicted, John).  The Packers
>>reportedly came up from their lastest offer of $1.35M/yr.  It will be 
>>interesting to see if the Packers request a roster exemption for Buckley
>>when he signs.  I would expect they would not and Buckley would at least
>>return punts immediately.
>
>I heard that no significant progress was made during the talks 
>yesterday.  Time grows short for my prediction to come true.
>

The last I heard, the Packers were offerring $1.4M and Buckley was
countering at $1.8M (strange, since ESPN said last week that Buckley
was at $1.5M.  Evidentally they were wrong).  Still, Buckley himself
was quoted yesterday that he thought he would be signed by the Viking
game.  I assume he meant the first Viking game:-).

-Todd
From: jjdti@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.D.Tilander)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NFC EAST- GET OFF IT!
Keywords: Satellite
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:43:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Chevron

In article <55868@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:
>>depends a lot on injuries, etc.  I agree...get off it!  It's old! 
>
>
>Does it? 2 years ago everybody liked the Eagles and the Skins in the
>NFC East, so the Giants won the Superbowl. Last year it was the Eagles
>and the Giants, so the Skins won the superbowl. This year, alot of
>people like Dallas, and the Skins, Giants, and Eagles all are pretty
>highly rated too. Thats 4 teams who could realistically win it all if
>you believe the experts(I like Dallas but they won't go all the way\
>this year, still too young).
>
>Seems to me the East has been #1 for a couple of years at least now.
>
>
Sorry, I was speaking in generalities...it will change.  It has to.  I can
remember when the namby-pambies of the NFL were SF, Denver, Giants, and I
bet you can too.  It all evens out in the end. 
-- 
Janet Tilander
Chevron Exploration and Production Services Co.
San Ramon, CA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: juodvalk@quanta.eng.ohio-state.edu (Vincent V. Juodvalkis)
Subject: FFL's and rec.sport.football.misc 
Summary: Why make a new group?  Just use rsfm.
Keywords: fantasy football
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:47:48 GMT



Why should there be a new news group made?  It seems to me that FFL's
are a seasonal thing and would be better off in rec.sport.football.misc
than anywhere else.  I know that several FFL's already post there.
RSFM is a low volume (at least here) group, and FFL's seem like they
would fit perfectly into a *.misc group (though I have not read the RSFM
charter to know for certain).


  Vincent V. Juodvalkis
  Owner/GM  The Columbus Grim Reapers  (AFFL,FFL,TOSUFFL)


============================================================================
Vincent V. Juodvalkis           The Electrical Engineering Computer Facility
juodvalk@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu           The Ohio State University, Columbus
juodvalk@cis.ohio-state.edu                                    (614)292-1416
============================================================================
Please insert standard disclaimer here.  After all, I don't what anyone else
to get into any trouble for my asinine opinions.  Only me.    -- Vincent
============================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: chf0@harvey.gte.com (Curtis Fennell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Miami RB's
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:57:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: GTE Laboratories

In article <1992Aug28.150757.21880@gvl.unisys.com> sroot@ms-2.gvl.unisys.com (Steve as root) writes:
>	Can anyone tell me how well M. Higgs has looked in the preseason?
>
>	I watch some of the miami game last night on ESPN but never
>	heard his name mentioned. Is he hurt?

Mark Higgs looked pretty good in the first two games, but suffered a
bruised thigh against Dallas and has been out since then - It was a
very bad bruise - apparently his thigh swelled up to twice it's normal
size.


Curt "I always pick the Dolphins - even against Buffalo!"  Fennell
			DOLFAN in New England.             
'72 Dolphins - The perfect team in the perfect season - 17-0




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From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Predictions - Not so Wild
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 18:15:26 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

here are my predictions for 1992 season
---------------------------------------
( I am going to save it to see in December - probably
with egg on my face - but what the heck)

NFC
---
Division winners
----------------
Washington
Chicago
San Fransisco

Wild Cards
----------
Dallas
Philadelphia
New Orleans

NFC champions - Washington

Afc
---
Divisin winners
---------------
Buffalo
Houston
Denver
Wild Cards
----------
Kansas city
New York
Miami

AFC winner
Buffalo

Super Bowl prediction in January (he!he!)

bye

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RAM            	  GO BREWERS - BULLS -93  - HAIL 'SKINS

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They carry less weight  than their volume would suggest.
		- Jonathan Miller
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: rrodabau@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald D Rodabaugh)
Subject: Re: Super Bowl change
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro
Summary: NO!
Keywords: Not gonna do it....
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 01:48:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.004457.27708@nmsu.edu> dward@scf.nmsu.edu (Dan Ward) writ
es:
>
>   I'm new to the net, so y'all may have already covered this.
>   However, I'm  interested in finding out how many people would
>   favor changing the SUPER BOWL from a one-game event to a best
>   of 2 out of 3?
>
>   I think baseball gets a lot of milage in it's world series
>   playoff.  I would like to see the NFL try it.  Plus, I think
>   this would help prevent a really good team getting shot out of
>   the saddle just because they are having ONE lousy game.  Would
>   tend to make the suspense last a little longer.
>
>   Look, let's face it - I really do think this is a good idea,
>   but I'm a die hard Denver fan - and I think we're going to need
>   more than just one shot this year...   Dan
>

     I don't think this will work for a variety of reasons:
     1) Football is a violent, violent game. After playing a minimum of four 
pre-season games, 16 regular-season games, and a couple of playoff games,
most teams are pretty tired, and pretty beat up. Given the nature of the game,
it really isn't feasible to ask them to play more often than once a week.
Most players need that long to feel completely recovered from the previous
weeks clash, and coaches use all of that time to prepare their players for the
upcoming opponent's strengths, weaknesses, strategies, etc. So, the season 
would be at least two weeks longer than it already is.
     2) MONEY!!!! No doubt there can be great argument made over which format
would make more money: a single game or a series, but here is what I believe:
The entire world is hyped and tunes in to the Superbowl; for many countries, it
is the only time they both are interested in and get to watch American 
football. Here in the States, the Superbowl has more hype than any other event,
even the venerable Indianapolis 500. I think that a series would not only 
diminish the world craze for the Superbowl, but as a result, it is my opinion 
(and only my opinion) that they hype here would diminish as well, and that 
would decrease revenues. I don't think the NFL, its franchises, or major 
advertisers would risk it.
     3) IMHO, I am very pleased with the current playoff format. The "do or 
die" single elimination format provides tremendous intensity and excitement.
The "this is it" feeling from both the playoffs and the Superbowl is 
incomparable, and I would not want to sacrifice it for anything.

Go Reds! Go Browns! Go Buckeyes!
David Rodabaugh                rrodabau@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Senior, Mechanical Engineering
The Ohio State University
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw)
Subject: More Haley info *   *
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
 
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:19:17 GMT

His career stats:
 
                    Games/Started      Tackles/Assists     Sacks/yards
1986                  16/1                  49/10             12/109
1987                  12/1                  21/4               6/42
1988                  16/14                 50/19           11.5/77
1989                  16/16                 43/14           10.5/88.5
1990                  16/16                 52/6              16/107
1991                  14/14                 46/7               7/49

Totals                90/63                261/60             63/473
                                                            
so, that is 10.5 sacks per year for a 7.5 yard average.  He is a
consistent 50 tackle guy, which is kindof low for a linebacker in the
4-3, but he rushed the passer on 90% of the downs.  He appears
durable.

I gave some thought to what to do with Haley, now that he has played
the 4-3 for most of his career and Dallas playing a 3-4.  How about
this move, although the players involved are not starters.  How about
playing a modified 3-4 set on passing downs (nickel situation), with
Tolbert at LE, Noonan at LT, Jones at RT, and Haley at RE.  Bates (or
Woodsen) plays the MLB spot and Norton and Smith on the outsides.  

Mind you, this is only for passing downs, but you have got the 3 best
pass rushers on the team in there at once (Jones, Tolbert, and Haley).
When more pressure is needed, all three rush and Noonan plays for the
trap draw (his forte is the run).  

If more defensive help is needed in the secondary, Haley drops back to
the OLB spot.  This leaves Dallas with a 3 man front:

Tolbert - a natural still at LE
Noonan - a nose tackle by nature and stature, playing NT
Jones - make use of the fact that he can play inside or outside by
sticking him at RE on those downs.

Norton moves to the LILB spot (he can play the middle a little, and
will be R. Jones backup), Bates at the RILB.  Smith and Haley on the
outside.  As far as players knowing the posistions and liking to play
there, Dallas has a great bunch of guys to make things happen.

I am very interested in any other guesses what they will do with
Haley, I am at a loss for when he plays and when he doesn't.  If he
starts at OLB, what happens to Norton or Smith or Myles.  Who will the
backup in the middle really be?  If he doesn't start at OLB, when do
you bring him in and does this hurt his effectiveness.  Does he play
DE at any time, and should Jeffcoat be worried (as he is..)?  JJ has
said he would play LB, but I don't see an easy way to get him into the
rotation .... Comments?

*ice*
From: andy@misha.central.sun.com (Andy Knipp Metro SE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Chicago Q'Back
Date: 2 Sep 92 08:15:30 GMT
Reply-To: andy@misha.central.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: misha.central.sun.com

In article 6339@vtserf.cc.vt.edu, greenfie@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Steve Greenfield) writes:
>Doesn't Chicago have a rookie quarterback from Virginia Tech?  I should
>remember his name; is it Will Furer (or something like that)?  I believe
>he is a lefty.  What happened to him?  There was an article in our
>collegiate newspaper that said he was going to be on a show Thursday
>broadcast by WGN.  Is this true?
yes

He was a 4th round choice,  made the team as the 3rd string QB.  He needs a 
lot of work,  but looks talented.  

There is a program talking about the trials & tribulations of a rookie in the 
NFL.  It was not made to be about him,  however,  he is a good rookie to
follow.  


---
Andy Knipp  SE                |
Sun Microsystems              | The secret of success is sincerity,
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From: barnes@cowboys.esd.sgi.com (Jim Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Seifert High?
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:15:44 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <athos-280892113459@athos.apple.com>, athos@apple.com (Rick
Eames) writes:
|> I just can't believe he named Steve "Not Doing Well" Young as the
|> official
|> starter over Bono *and* Montana.  This will be a dismal season.
|> 
|> --
|> Rick Eames
|> athos@apple.com
|> My opinions are my own, thank you very much!
This is going to be a GREAT season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold)
Subject: Re: Super Bowl XVI Tape?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:04:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.122351.2126@wkuvx1.bitnet>,
spearkr@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>
>     Are there any Niner or Bengal fans out there who have a copy of
>the CBS broadcast of Super Bowl XVI?  I have a copy but the quality is
>not very good and parts are missing.  If there is anyone who can make
>me a good copy of the whole game, e-mail me.  Thanks,
>
>                                        Kevin Spear "Videophile!"
>                                        Western Kentucky University
>

If I was a Bengals fan, I don't think that I would have wanted to
keep a copy of that game around.   What a waste of tape from their
perspective  :->

                                                   Tony
                                                GO 49ERS!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: robertd.consoles@ecs.comm.mot.com (Robert Day)
Subject: Re: Top 5 Defenses?
Organization: control_centers
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:26:13 GMT

In <BtLqvx.6F6@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v067ftek@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TIMOTHY M. MCCARTHY) writes,

>I'm curious about peoples view on the best DEEE's this year.

>I'd say:
>1. Houston
>2. Denver
>3. Chicago
>4. Washington
>5. New Orleans

>Any thoughts?	Opinions?

>T. Mac

I SERIOUSLY doubt that the Bears will be in the top 5
defenses this year.  A lot depends on who they get to play
defensive line next to McMichael - maybe Spellman - and
what happens with the linebackers.  The incumbent 'backers
are getting up there in years, and the reserves are 2-5 year 
'veterans' who are pretty much unproven.  I think John Roper will do
well, but I'm unsure about the rest.  The secondary should be ok...
if'n the line can generate some kind of pass rush.

BTW, even with Jerome Brown gone, I think Philadelphia will
still be in the top 5.

Rob
-- 
Your bangs do a good job of covering up your lobotomy stitches. - Calvin & Hobbes

robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com    GO IRISH, BEARS, BULLS, WHITE SOX, HAWKS, etc.
From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Raiders schedule for Sept 7 - Sept 18
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:09:26 GMT
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server

LA Raiders at Cincinnatti on 9/13.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: broger@bnr.ca (Roger Balakrishnan)
Subject: Re: USFL Team Names
Reply-To: broger@bnr.ca (Roger Balakrishnan)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 22:12:30 GMT

I dont remember an Orlando Renegades team in the USFL,
could it be the Jacksonville Bulls ?


roger
From: zezula@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Chad E Zezula)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: other starting QBs
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:11:06 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <gedVQwi00WDKI8Endz@andrew.cmu.edu> vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Vernon H Harmon) writes:
>Since we've recently had an influx of returning students who haven't yet
>paid enough attention to find these things out, here's as complete a
>list of starters as I can come up with.
>
>Indy:	George (I seem to recall hearing he was hurt.....?!)
       Mark Herrmann will start
>Sea:	Stouffer (is it official, yet?)
       Don't know
>NYG:	(can't remember his name---not Simms)
       Jeff Hostetler has an injury, so Simms may start
>Phoe:	(can't remember his name)
       Timm Rosenbach
>Chi:	(can't think of his name)
       Harbaugh
>Rams:	(can't remember his name either, but you know who he is)
       Jim Everett