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From: cad28526@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chuck Douglas)
Subject: Re: What was Godzilla's name in japanese?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 00:09:59 GMT

lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:

>rodal@reznor.cmw.ltn.dec.com (A Software Hooligan) writes:

>> Anybody know? I want to name a project after that famous creature that
>> ate Tokyo, but I want it to know the japanese pronounciation of
>> Godzilla? 

>Having just watched _Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah_ the other night, I can
>assure you that the Japanese pronounce it almost exactly the same way we
>do.  The only obvious difference is that the initial "o" is more "go" than
>"gaw".

This is mostly right.  The Japanese call him Gojira.  The "Japanese accent"
makes it sound like the Americanised version of "Godzilla".

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From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place)
Subject: Re: Where the devil is 007????
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 09:57:45 GMT

In article <713578804snx@apusapus.demon.co.uk>, tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Trevor Jenkins) writes...

} Apropos of nothing I heard an interview with Timothy Dalton (or maybe
} the producer or was it the director of said movie) who mentioned that
} the original title was "License revoked" but that it was changed in
} the belief that 90% of Americans would not understand what it meant.

Yes, the movie was originally to titled LICENCE REVOKED, and then the
one after it would be LICENCE RENEWED, adapting the John Gardner novel
of the same title.

While it might be true that the American public *is* so ignorant that
it wouldn't know what "revoked" means, I suspect that the proferred
explanation for the title change simply plays better, and is a joke
made at the expense of the American public.

I think it's far more likely that the reason for the change in title
was to avoid confusion in the public by having similar titles on two
different Bond movies. People might well not run out to see LICENCE
RENEWED in the mistaken belief that they've already seen it. This still
plays on the stupidity of the average American, but not to the same
degree.

-- 

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	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

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From: "glenn devlin" <glenn.devlin@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: audience comments dur
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:51:08 EST
Reply-To: "glenn devlin" <glenn.devlin@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

Hi, Sue: I enjoyed your post regarding the movies. Since I'm deaf,
I rarely go to theatres (except for dances with wolves and Terminator)
(I simply had to see the sweeping landscape of the Dakotas in Dances)
Well, I saw Batman and practically fell asleep after the first act
and woke up when they fought it out in the bell tower. Shortest movie,
ever!
   Cheers, Glenn
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From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Re: ** ULTIMATE CLASSIC MOVIE BABES ** Who?
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:12:00 GMT
Organization: Ohio University School of Art. Athens

In article <66279@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
>What's the deal?  Is it so degrading to women to use a different noun?
>Are we going to have to start referring to women with he and his?  Is the
>wife of a king going to be reffered to as a king?  Actually, I guess I can't
>refer to her (him?) as the "wife", either.  So the husband of a king is a
>king (only one has a penis and the other has a vagina).

Only in the net world. In the *same thread* we have a discussion about whether
using the term actor/actress is sexist and another discussion about Mary 
Mastrantonios "tits".



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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Ted Turner et al
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:50:30 GMT
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

In article <1992Aug16.122956.7705@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> leeper@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Mark R. Leeper) writes:
>Let me add a few words to Jerry's defense of Ted Turner.
>
>As soon as you broadcast a black and white film to a television set
>you have lost the original tones.  In fact as soon as the celluloid
>on which a film is printed starts to age you lose the original grays.

>I doubt that these films can be real money-makers for Turner, but if you
>are interested in film history they are real finds.  My impression of
>Turner is that whatever else he is, he is a real film enthusiast.  I
>appreciate what he has made available to me.

There can be no doubt that any true film enthusiast has cause to thank
Turner.  He's been striking new prints of every feature in the film
libraries he's bought - not just the ones that are popular and are
likely to bring in money, but even the junky ones of limited interest
to anyone but a film historian.  The big gain is that he's struck 
prints of good, but lesser known films.  He's done some film restoration
projects that are praiseworthy, as well.  (Though I wish he hadn't
adjusted the colors downward on the restoration of "Gone With the Wind".
I liked the extremely bright Technicolor of that film.)

That doesn't mean, however, that you have to like everything he does,
and I personally hate colorization.  Yes, you can lose contrast in
other ways, but that doesn't justify throwing away some of the contrast
that could have been there.  

Since I prefer seeing films in theaters, anyway, and rarely watch films
on any channel that breaks them up with commercials, I am often able to
avoid the effects of colorization.  Still, I wish he'd keep his hands
off the kiddies' watercolor set and just show the films in black and
white.  It may well be that the most harmful effect of colorization is
that it will increase the already strong trend to avoid black and white
films among many viewers, and I don't view that as a good thing.

On the whole, I think I like Turner's good deeds more than I dislike
his bad ones.  I'd say he is a net force for improving the lot of
the film watcher.  But he could do better.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
From: smorris@tweedledum.ucsb.edu (Stephen Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What do you call YOUR remote?
Date: 17 Aug 92 03:02:27 GMT
Reply-To: smorris@tweedledum.ucsb.edu (Stephen Morris)
Distribution: world, rec, usa, na

In article <1992Aug14.190155.239@ccu.umanitoba.ca> ummorea0@ccu.umanitoba.ca  
(Gene Moreau) writes:
++ In <8059@dirac.physics.purdue.edu> ns@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Nancy M.  
Schnepp) writes:
++ 
++ >The TV Guide has an article this week about "zapping".
++ >In other words, channel scanning. 
++ >At our house we call our remote "the clicker".  Hand
++ >me "the clicker" is lots quicker than saying, "hand
++ >me the remote control", don't you think??   Hah!
++ 
++ Some friends of mine who used to play D&D alot called it the wand. 
++ Personally, most of the time I call it "The dammed, stupid, f#!king
++ remote", as in "Where in the hell is that dammed stupid f#!king remote
++ hiding now!?!".  
++ 


We called it the "Wand of Power"

 ... I use the past tense because we are now
"100% television free", a condition I highly recomend.

S.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: KJOHNSSON@finabo.abo.fi (Kim-Erik Johnsson INF)
Subject: Re: They Live - John Carpenter ???
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:44:12 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20


In <1992Aug14.082936.18469@cs.joensuu.fi> jpehko@cs.joensuu.fi writes:

>  it was directed by him, at least that's what the credits said. But, it was
> one of those films that make me ask 'Did he really do this piece of shit?' 
> (no flames). Just like The Sicilian, did Cimino _really_ direct it?
> Well, Carpenter hasn't had much to offer for years anyway so another flop
> didn't really surprise me.

Which leads us to the question of censorship...either the Finnish videoversion
misses a couple of minutes, or the editing really sucks. I saw the film a
couple of years ago, and I got the feeling that something quite significant,
like the other guy's death, was missing entirely. I'm talking about the scene
towards the end, where the three are heading up for the roof. Suddenly they
just *are* there, and the other guy's dead...

Censors really know how to make a bad movie even worse. A great example is The
Blob (the new one), where *everything* that even slightly has something to do
with blood or death, is cut away. The result is a very, very, very lame movie.
A totally different one from the uncut version...

So: How *long* is They Live supposed to be?!? And what, if anything, happens in
the stairway?!?


  nhn          Kim Johnsson, CS @ ]bo Akademi                 That
s(. .)s             Luostarinkatu 6 B 11                   thing down 
 K o J                  20700 Turku                       there is the
   O                      Finland                    movie quote of the day
"Shit... Fuck..."
       - Walker
From: emura@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Christopher Y Emura)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: T2 Judgement Day date.
Date: 16 Aug 92 19:03:35 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


I'm sorry for having to post this, but I am a bit desperate!  Does anyone
know the exact date of "Judgement Day" as stated by Arnold in T2?  The
reason for my query is that a friend of mine has her B-Day on this day
and that's all I can remember!  I believe it's an August date.

Please send any responses to emura@en.ecn.purdue.edu.  Thanks in advance!!!!!




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Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: gregde@microsoft.com (Greg Demichillie)
Subject: Re: What do you call YOUR remote?
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:39:53 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <8059@dirac.physics.purdue.edu>, ns@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Nancy M. Schnepp) writes:
> The TV Guide has an article this week about "zapping".
> In other words, channel scanning. 
> At our house we call our remote "the clicker".  Hand
> me "the clicker" is lots quicker than saying, "hand
> me the remote control", don't you think??   Hah!


The God Box.  Because whoevers holds it is God and gets to pick
what channel is selected.  

-Greg

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From: zeleny@husc9.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Unforgivable  ***SPOILERS***
Date: 16 Aug 92 01:55:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Aug15.215515.14774
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Aug15.165114.11851@eecs.nwu.edu> 
kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman) writes:

>In article <11800@optilink.UUCP> 
>cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:

CC:
>>The sheriff's decision to simply require financial compensation to Slim for 
>>damaging Slim's "merchandise," rather than actually punish the cowboys for a 
>>horribly serious crime (mayhem), is clearly a comment on today's America, 
>>where rape is treated less seriously than such victimless crimes as drug abuse,
>>gun ownership, prostitution, and gambling.

MLK:
>I think you sre projecting here. It is far more likely that the Sheriff
>behaves that way because it is the sort of behavior that an 1880s person
>like Little Bill would probably do. Clint Eastwood is not the sort of person
>to put your message in his films.

Clint Eastwood's political views have been a matter of public record
for quite some time now; among other things it may be noted that they
are quite compatible with the above claim by Mr Cramer.

MLK:
>It always amuses me the way people will read whatever they want into things.

Tu quoque.

>Michael
>
>-- 
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> kaufman        | fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in
>  @eecs.nwu.edu | the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be
>                | lost in time - like tears in rain. Time to die.     Roy Batty 

cordially,
mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
"Nous donnons la mort, nous saurons la subir."
From: Dr. Arnold Matlin <ahmatlingvcp@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Date: 15 Aug 92 18:47 PDT
Subject: "Station West"
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1447700001:000:553
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!ahmatlingvcp    Aug 15 18:47:00 1992


I have just seen "Station West" on video and in my opinion it is a top-notch
genre film.  Unfortunately, there are a few muddled parts that I assumed were
taken from the novel and thrown at random into the movie.  For the hell of it
I found{ the book, written by Luke Short.  While it is true that the random
stuff did come out of the book, the more interesting point is that the book
is a real potboiler!
	I am curious about how often the screenwriter improves on a bad novel.
What experience has anyone had with this process?
AH Matlin <ahmatlingvcp>
From: mmaxwell@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Dracula
Date: 20 Aug 1992 14:56:17 GMT
Organization: UC San Diego
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: irpsws80.ucsd.edu

In article <1992Aug20.083139.26499@sdcrsi.cray.com> kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com
(the Rev. Mom) writes:
(snip)
>to talk about the movie.  I missed the first ten minutes or so of
>the presentation, but the basic gist is that Coppola was really
>trying for a faithful adaptation of the book, down to the cowboy
>from Texas who's one of Lucy(?)'s suitors.  

The "Cowboy" is played by Bill Cambell (of "Rocketeer").

(sinp)

>be absolutely sure.  I *think* Cary Elwes name is mentioned, and
>whoever it is playing Renfield got such a big cheer I can't
>figure out who it is.  <sigh>.

Renfield played by Tom Waits (musician/actor known best in roles
from "Down by Law" and "At Play in the Fields of the Lord".)

-------------------
Matt Maxwell
mmaxwell@ucsd.edu

"He took personality tests
 and stapled them to his lower lip" -- Stan Ridgway

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From: asuccop@milton.u.washington.edu (Annemarie Succop)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.humor,alt.sex,alt.sex.bondage,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.asian.american,alt.parents-teens,alt.recovery,soc.men,soc.women,alt.polyamory,alt.wanted.moslem.gay
Subject: Re: Woody and Mia
Keywords: thank heaven for little girls
Date: 22 Aug 92 02:57:04 GMT
Organization: University of Washington


	why is this thread on alt.polyamory?

	& what nitwit thinks childabuse is a joke?

	annemarie
	asuccop@u.washington.edu
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From: swinokur@cellar.org (Steve Winokur)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Possible Foundation movie?
Date: 23 Aug 92 18:02:28 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow) writes:

> Making movies out of well-known science fiction classics has not been
> attempted very often, and when it is attempted it's not often successful.
> I can think of a few exceptions ---
> 
> With good results:
>   Blade Runner ("Do Androids....")
>   2001

	Yes, but 2001 was being written at the same time the film was being
made (See Clarke's notes in the front of 2001; he says something along the
lines of "watching dailes and revising your text is an interesting way to
write a book.").  So, does it really belong in the category of "films that
were made out of books?"

	As a candidate for the "unsucessful" list, I would like to nominate
2010.  The book was an honorable sucessor to 2001, but the film version
chopped out so many plot elements that there was nothing more than a shadow
of the original plot left...	
	-steve


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From: tk@iesd.auc.dk (Tomas Kristensen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Oliver Stone NEW MOVIE?
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:36:47 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University

Yesterday, my local Newspaper brought this little note:
Director Oliver Stone is currently planning a movie about the 
Spanish Civil War. David Bowie is supposed to have a play a
leading role. App. the movie will be build over the book 
"Homage to Catalonia" by George Orwell.

Please confirm these rumors, and elaborate on David Bowies role in it.

-Tomas
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From: cn@otter.hpl.hp.com (Colin Needham)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 00:05:30 GMT
Subject: The Actors List (A-B) Part I of VII
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Unforgivable ***SPOILERS***
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:12:35 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com

In article <1992Aug12.102442.1@dranet.dra.com> chris@dranet.dra.com  
writes:
> What I'm saying is that the majority of the film wasn't typical;  
the
> ending was. Not because it was shootout, but because it was a very
> unrealistic one.

I don't think that the ending was "typical."  In most Westerns,
the hero wins in the end and we go home feeling good. In
Unforgiven, the hero becomes a villian and commits some unspeakable
acts.  As for the realism: I thought it was a demonstration of
what Hackman said earlier in the film.  It doesn't matter who
shoots fatest. What matters is that you can stand calmly while 
you're being shot at and shoot back. That's what Eastwood did.

--
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From: wildcat@niwot.scd.ucar.edu (Wes Wildcat)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What was Godzilla's name in japanese?
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:43:50 GMT
Organization: Scientific Computing Divison/NCAR Boulder, CO

In article <2724@nlsun1.oracle.nl> gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:
>In article <1610@sousa.ltn.dec.com>, rodal@reznor.cmw.ltn.dec.com (A
>Software Hooligan) writes:
>|>
>|>Anybody know? I want to name a project after that famous creature that
>|>ate Tokyo, but I want it to know the japanese pronounciation of Godzilla?
>|>
>|>
>
>   It is GOJIRA.
>          
>+---------------------+------------------------------------------+
>| Gary Bradley        |   "You receive a love letter from me and |
>| ORACLE Corp, UK     |                  you're f*cked forever!" |
>| Edinburgh, SCOTLAND |        - Frank Booth ("Blue Velvet")     |
>+---------------------+------------------------------------------+
>| "God damn the censor man"                                      |
>+----------------------------------------------------------------+


	I guess everyone knows alot about monsters, I was waiting for someone tosay the right pronounciation was Godzirra.
From: teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: ** ULTIMATE CLASSIC MOVIE BABES ** Who?
Date: 23 Aug 92 05:35:06 GMT
Organization: University of Hawaii

In article <1992Aug16.000336.4292@daimi.aau.dk> pilgrim@daimi.aau.dk (Jakob G}rdsted) writes:
>john@spss.com (John Przyborowski) writes:
>
>>Let's not forget Jodie Foster............
>
>No. Let's forget Jodie Foster. She is a reasonably good actor,
>but to put it midly she is not pretty. 
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
.........NOT!    :)



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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Subject: Re: More Star Wars ?
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 15:17:18 GMT

>>>>> On 21 Aug 92 00:54:46 GMT, rcheung@ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Richard Cheung) said:

rcheung> In article <2A928C07.272@deneva.sdd.trw.com>
rcheung> cjohnson@venice.sedd.trw.com (Clarence Johnson) writes:
>
>Has anyone heard any thing about another Star Wars Trilogy?
>Saw a post about it in rec.arts.startrek.current.

rcheung> There _will_ be a new Star Wars triology based upon the three
rcheung> new books written on the triology.. I know the first book is
rcheung> about how this Leuitetnent of the Empire which saw the
rcheung> destruction of the great star destroyer and the death star,
rcheung> and the death of the emporer and vador, took control of the
rcheung> few remaining star destrotyers and went hiding away gaining
rcheung> support...  then slowly he starts to emerge again.. or
rcheung> something!!! It should be interestin neverthless!

Well you obviously haven't even read the book. You way off. And the
new books are books. They will not be made into movies.
--
                        Scott Streeter
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