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Subject: Re: Wales XV to play Italy
From: R.D.Lynn@massey.ac.nz (R.D. Lynn)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 10:29:06 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
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In article: <1992Sep30.104758.16577@aber.ac.uk> mae@aber.ac.uk
(Mark Endaf Edwards) writes:

>WALES XV v ITALY (October 7, Cardiff)
---------      
Why is it only Wales XV? Surely after Wales' lack of success in the test arena
for a number of seasons, the Welsh RFU should be only glad to chalk up another
test win, or is it that they're scared of yet another test loss! :-)

Seriously though, I feel this rather a slight on Italian rugby, which 
shouldn't occur. Firstly, Italian rugby is on the rise with the national team 
putting up some creditable performances during the last world cup. Secondly,
Wales has given caps for games against much lesser rugby nations, such as
The USA and Namibia (where Wales almost loss). So why the change now? The
team as picked IS the TEST side. So make it official.
 
>15 A Clement (Swansea)
>14 I Evans (Llanelli, captain)
>13 R Bidgood (Newport)
>12 S Gibbs (Swansea)
>11 M Hall (Cardiff)
>10 C Stephens (Llanelli)
>9 R Jones (Swansea)
>8 S Davies (Swansea)
>7 R Webster (Swansea)
>6 E Lewis (Llanelli)
>5 Gareth Llewellyn (Neath)
>4 A Copsey (Llanelli)
>3 H Williams-Jones (South Wales Police)
>2 G Jenkins (Swansea)
>1 M Griffiths (Cardiff)
>REPLACEMENTS:
>M Rayer (Cardiff)
>R Moon (Llanelli)
>N Meek (Pontypool)
>J Davies (Neath)
>P Davies (Llanelli)
>M Morris (Neath)

>The only change from the team which defeated Scotland 15-12 last March
>is the recall of Colin Stephens in place of Neil Jenkins at outside-half.
>Jenkins was banned after being sent off in the Schweppes Cup semi-final
>last May. The ban ended on Sunday and he trained with the squad on Monday
>but was omitted from the team due to lack of match practice.  Richard Webster,
>however, has only had 35 minutes of rugby this season, going off with a leg
>injury during Swansea's win against Newbridge on September 5. He did enough
>during his one squad session to convince Alan Davies.  Mike Griffiths was sent
>off during Cardiff's match against Aberavon on September 5 and was banned for
>12 weeks.  The ban was lifted on review (after video evidence was considered)
>and he returns to the side.
>This is Wales' strongest available side and should beat the Italians.  Last
>season's two victories in the Five Nations championship, together with Alan
>Davies' impact as coach, has restored much-needed confidence to the Welsh team.

Come on Italy!

>Cheers
>Endaf.
>***********
>Endaf Edwards
>Institute of Earth Studies
>University of Wales
>Aberystwyth SY23 3DB
>Wales

Rob
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From: a2824ag@sunmanager.LRZ-Muenchen.DE (Riaan de Jager)
Subject: Springboks in France - news please.
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 11:49:28 GMT

Hi there

Could someone in France please post some info on their doings in France?
Also, I heard that the french minister of sports said something about
there being no black players in the squad. Any comments etc.?

Thanks.
(May the worst team loose!)
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Subject: O' woe is me
From: clive@otago.ac.nz (Clive Boock)
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:12:38 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

   O' woe is me O' woe is me!!

   I'll just fill you in on my Sunday afternoon. Wife and smallest child were
despatched to the park and older child was sent to a neighbours place to play
because, and I quote, "...Dad wants to watch the rugby on TV...".
   Well that was as good as it got folks. Just before the game oldest child
arrives home WITH neighbours child. I suspect a plot here on the part of said
neighbour. 
    In pre-match comments the sideline charlies all give Otago a chance and I
had to agree with them but when Waikato run onto the field the look on their
faces said it all. I don't know what the coach said to them in the changing rooms
but it sure as hell wored and after 15 minutes Otago are 20 points down with
the result really being academic from then on in. 
   I kept watching the bloody game, must be my masochistic streak, and shouted
at older daughter and neighbours child when they dared to interrupt my agony. 
   My wife arrived home after the game and knew who had lost; while out walking
she heard the last post being played on a bugle and knowing there were no
military funerals scheduled for that day summised that Otago had been
beaten; SHE WASN"T BLOODY WRONG.
  
Clive H. Boock, Univewrsity of Otago, New Zealand.
From: naicg@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: RFL results, 4th October
Date: 5 Oct 92 09:12:22 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

Stones Bitter Championship, Division One:

Bradford N. 28 (Tries: T.Marchant,T.Anderson,J.Hamer,R.Powell,P.Medley;
		Goals: D.Fox(2),D.Hobbs(2))
Salford 26 (Tries: M.Lee(2),P.Williams,P.Ford,J.Critchley; Goals: M.Birkett(3))

Bradford's third successive league win with record signing Deryck Fox in the 
team. 

Hull 26 (Tries: S.McNamara(3),P.Eastwood,L.Jackson; Goals: P.Eastwood(3))
Halifax 8 (Try: R.Southernwood; Goals: P.Bishop(2))

Hull were well served by their GB tourists. Halifax seem to be slipping back 
after their good start.

Leeds 13 (Tries: G.Schofield,E.Hanley; Goals: C.Maskill(2); 
	  Drop-Goal: G.Schofield)
Warrington 4 (Try: G.Mackey)

Surely not a win for Leeds? Schofield's try was his 100th for the club. 
Warrington's try came late on after Leeds led 12-0 at half time.

Leigh 16 (Tries: M.Blakeley,D.Hill, .Pratt; Goals: M.Blakeley(2))
Wigan 36 (Tries: A.Farrar(2),S.Edwards(2),M.Crompton,J.Robinson,A.Platt; 
	  Goals: F.Botica(4))

Shaun Edwards took his try tally to 17. Phil Clarke was sent off near the 
end - a suspension of more than two games would keep him out of the World 
Cup Final.

Sheffield E. 20 (Tries: A.Farrell,P.Carr,D.Mycoe; Goals: M.Aston(4))
Castleford 16 (Tries: St.J.Ellis,S.Middleton,M.Ford; Goals: P.Coyne,L.Crooks)

Sheffield's good form continues with their first ever win against Castleford. 
They overhauled a ten point deficit in the second half.

Wakefield T. 5 (Try: P.Benson; Drop-Goal: N.Wright)
St.Helens 18 (Tries: S.Cooper,A.Hunte,B.Dwyer; Goals: B.Dwyer(3))

Saints remain unbeaten, but needed two tries in the last ten minutes to 
make certain of the win.

Widnes 52 (Tries: J.Devereux(4),S.Spruce(2),J.Davies,S.McCurrie,A.Hadley;
	   Goals: J.Davies(8))
Hull KR 0

Widnes halt a three match losing run with the first division's highest score 
this season. Hull KR are struggling badly, having scored 34 points in their 
six games.

Table-
10 points St.Helens
 8 points Wigan,Bradford
 6 points Widnes,Halifax,Warrington,Hull,Sheffield
 4 points Castleford,Leeds,Salford
 2 points Hull KR
 0 points Wakefield,Leigh

Division Two:
Bramley 30 London C. 8
Carlisle 24 Rochdale H. 12
Huddersfield 37 Swinton 10
Oldham 4 Featherstone R. 24

Table-
8 points Oldham,Featherstone
6 points London,Bramley,Rochdale
4 points Carlisle
2 points Huddersfield
0 points Swinton

Division Three:
Batley 20 Workington T. 8
Blackpool G. 25 Barrow 46
Chorley B. 12 Keighley C. 54
Hunslet 12 Dewsbury 22
Nottingham C. 0 Ryedale-York 84
Whitehaven 28 Doncaster 12

Table-
10 points Ryedale-York
 8 points Batley,Dewsbury
 6 points Keighley,Whitehaven
 4 points Workington,Doncaster,Blackpool,Hunslet
 2 points Barrow,Chorley,Nottingham
 0 points Highfield

Coming up:
The four County Cup semi-finals take place on Tuesday and Wednesday of this 
week, with a full League program at the weekend, along with Huddersfield 
against the Australian World Cup touring side on Friday night.
I will be back on Thursday with news of the Lancashire and Yorkshire Cup 
games.

Ian
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Subject: Re: The NZ final - a P.S.
From: cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:39:20 GMT
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <1992Oct5.125856.11231@waikato.ac.nz>, hamish@waikato.ac.nz writes:
> hah! The dorklander bit the bit one there. A pity they didn't have the guts to
> put the shield up on the day. Else we would have a new holder.


Keep the shield separate, I say. That's one of the good things about the new
format - it separates the shield from the national championship and they should
be two separate entities. Fair dos to Auckland they've led the way for
provincial rugby in this country for the second half of the eighties and in to
the ninties. All those who want the shield should still have to win it off
Auckland - I see no reason why they should give it away just because they've
held it for a while.

Alan
From: graham@otago.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: NZ Final Comments
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:18:37 NZDT
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

My partner teaches at a primary school and the 7 year olds keep
a diary.  Yesterday the main topic in the diary was the div 1
final.  One young boy wrote:
  "I didn't enjoy watching the final.  When the score got so
   high I went outside and played my own Division 1 Final and
   Otago beat Waikato 140 points to nil."

Although home ground is an advantage and the power of the forwards
helps, I thought the big difference on Saturday was that Waikato
wanted to win far more than Otago wanted to win.

Congratulations Waikato - get rid of Loe and you have a great team
in every sense.

Graham Price
From: jlangfor@alsvid.une.edu.au (Joseph Langford)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: New South Wales Rugby League info wanted
Date: 28 Sep 92 07:02:11 GMT
Organization: University of New England - Northern Rivers (Lismore)

From article <10339@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au>, by brendan@cs.uq.oz.au (Brendan Mahony):
> In <92261.214634BARBER@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> BARBER@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Wayne Barber) writes:
> 
>>Does anyone have the latest results in the NSW Rugby League?  A couple
>>of Australians traveling in Maine, USA are quite interested and it would
>>be great if I could give them some results.
> 
> Preliminary final result: Illawara robbed
> 
> St George 4 (Walford try) d Illawara 0
> 
> Has McCallum gone blind, or was he nobbled?
> St George resorted to professional foul after professional foul,
> standing offside, lying on players, second, third and fourth late tacklers,
> interfering with the play-the-ball etc etc etc.
> Not only did the perpetrators miraculously stay on the field,
> they didn't even concede a single penalty.
> 
> Even ignoring the 3 disallowed tries, I'd reckon McCallum was worth at
> least 25 points to the Dragons.
> 
> --
The Grand Final was won easily by Brisbane 28 to St George 8.
St George (with the help of McCallum) tried the same tactics but the 
SUPERIOR side, the BRISBANE BRONCOS, out played their opponents to record 
their first of many premiership victories. 

> When soldiers form lines or hollow squares, you call it reason.
> When wild geese in flight take the form of a letter V, you say instinct.
> When the homogeneous atoms of a mineral arrange themselves into shapes
> mathematically perfect you have nothing to say. You have not even invented a name to conceal your heroic unreason."
-- 
Joseph Langford  Internet:  jlangfor@loki.une.edu.au   Phone:  +61 66 ????????
    University of New England, Northern Rivers (Lismore) NSW Australia
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Subject: Re: semi finals; NZ Champs
From: awil2@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Andrew James        Willmott       )
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:41:19 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

In <1992Sep28.121125.11056@waikato.ac.nz> higham@waikato.ac.nz writes:

> [ various interesting comments about semifinals deleted ]

>Ellis, walks on water, Timu. ditto, Cooper, Cooke. Given a hard ground at Rugby
>park and a 40 minutes like they played on Sunday with a little more luck and
>Otago may just do it this time. 
>-- 
>Tom Higham,                    
>Radiocarbon Dating Lab,
>University of Waikato,
>Hamilton,
>NEW ZEALAND.
>Higham@waikato.ac.nz /
>C14@waikato.ac.nz

Hmmm! A posting from Waikato supporting Otago in the final! My God! They're
everywhere!

(How could they let it happen? Doesn't Simon T. censor the news posts? :-)

Andrew

-- 
+--- Andrew Willmott ------------- awil2@cs7.cs.aukuni.ac.nz ---+
|  Q: How many IBM CPU's does it take to execute a job?         |
|  A: Four; three to hold it down, and one to rip its head off. |
+---------------------------------------------- Auckland, NZ ---+
From: grahamc@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com (Graham Cutting)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1992 17:24:42 GMT
Subject: Re: Springboks for Europe
Organization: HP, Berkshire, England
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby

I read in yesterdays papers that Uli Scmidt has pulled out of the squad due
to political reasons.  It was stated that he was not happy being denied a
anthem to sing and a flag to sing it to (my words not theirs).  

Can anyone in SA throw any light on the reasoning?

Cheers,
Graham

grahamc@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com
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From: cpalmer@dingo.rtp.dg.com ()
Subject: Re: semi finals; NZ Champs
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 13:20:48 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, Westboro MA

In article <1992Sep28.134206.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty) writes:
>It was inevitable that "professional" fouls would have more impact on the game
>especially as the games assumed more importance. Unfortunately, partly due to
>the safety laws introduced to the game, rugby has no effective way of
>penalising these fouls. If a prop or a hooker are sent to the sin bin then
>another player has to take their place which tends to negate the punishment
>somewhat. It's something rugby authorities will be forced to look at sooner or
>later.

Simple solution - a free kick to the other team whenever a scrum
would have been called. No need to replace anybody. 
With the latest restrictions on what can be done from a free kick
this wouldn't be too severe (although the new maul rule would
effectively be reversed for the duration of the sinbinning).
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Palmer                            "Ashes to ashes,
Data General Corporation                 dust to dust,
Network Systems Development Division     If Lillee don't get you,
cpalmer@dingo.webo.dg.com                Thommo must!"
From: tk@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Tommy Kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: NZ Final Comments
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:50:10 GMT
Reply-To: tk@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Tommy Kelly)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

In article <1992Oct6.141838.44@otago.ac.nz> graham@otago.ac.nz writes:
>My partner teaches at a primary school and the 7 year olds keep
>a diary.  Yesterday the main topic in the diary was the div 1
>final.  One young boy wrote:
>  "I didn't enjoy watching the final.  When the score got so
>   high I went outside and played my own Division 1 Final and
>   Otago beat Waikato 140 points to nil."

That speaks volumes about why NZ is what they are to rugby.

In Scotland most seven year olds would hardly know what rugby was, never mind
who top of division 1 were.  I blame that wimpish excuse for a game ... ermmm
"soccer" was it ... or should I say "fitba'".

Sigh.

tk
From: higham@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: LOE-commotion
Date: 5 Oct 92 11:41:50 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Another interesting point to come out of the Waikato-Otago final was the antics
of our old mate Richard Loe. Greg Cooper, the Otago fullback was trapped at the
bottom of a ruck midway through the second half and after the ruck seemed
injured. Something wrong with his eye. He continued but was eventually replaced
by Andre Bell. One Network News showed the actual incident which involved, you
guessed it, Loey. Mr Loe was shown cynically inserting his thumb into the eye
of Cooper and it didn't look as though he was helping him get mud out of it. It
is another example of his oafish, over aggressive play and he was lucky that
the ref didn't see it. Cooper was taken out of the game to all intents and
purposes. 
-- 
Tom Higham,                    
Radiocarbon Dating Lab,
University of Waikato,
Hamilton,
NEW ZEALAND.
Higham@waikato.ac.nz /
C14@waikato.ac.nz
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From: mzedtwit@iiic.ethz.ch (Maximilian Joachim Paul Zedtwitz)
Subject: Davis Cup Final USA - Switzerland
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:49:41 GMT

Some statistics for the Davis Cup final this year:

Year   Location      Surface      Winner    Score
----   --------      -------      ------    -----

Hlasek - Agassi  
1988   New York      Indoor       Hlasek    6:3 6:2
1991   Paris         Clay         Agassi    6:3 6:1 6:1
1992   Milano        Indoor       Hlasek    6:2 6:1

Hlasek - Courier
1987   Johannesburg  Hard Court   Hlasek    6:2 6:2

Hlasek - Sampras
1990   New York      Hard Court   Sampras   6:3 6:4 6:1
1992   Indian Wells  Hard Court   Hlasek    6:4 3:6 7:5


Rosset - Agassi
1991   Paris         Clay         Agassi    3:6 7:5 6:4 6:3
1992   Scottsdale    Hard Court   Rosset    7:5 7:6

Rosset - Courier
1992   Melbourne     Hard Court   Courier   6:3 6:1 6:3
1992   Barcelona     Clay         Rosset    6:4 6:2 6:1

Rosset - Sampras
1992   Paris         Clay         Sampras   7:6 4:6 6:4 3:6 6:3


Surface    Switzerland : USA
-------    -----------------
Indoor                2:0
Hard Court            3:2
Clay                  1:3

Gorman would be crazy to choose a fast surface for the final.
Courier/Sampras/McEnroe have just won the semi's against Sweden
on clay, so I think Gorman will choose this surface.
On the other hand, Rosset beat Courier on clay, and Hlasek/Rosset
won the French Open on clay this year.

// Maxi
// comp sci grad
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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Subject: Re: Tennis Raquet reccomendations
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 04:22:20 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)

In article <1a5seiINN90@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cf947@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chun-Hung Wan) writes:
> 
> I'm going to buy a new tennis raquet soon and I'm thinking of either the
> Prince Graphite of the Wilson ProStaff (Edberg's)  Does anyone use either
> of these, and if so so what are your opinions of them?  I used to use the
> ThunderStick but after a while I hated it.  My shots flew everywhere, and
> I lost control.  So I've decided to go for something more less extreme like
> the Graphite or Prostaff.  How about the Prince Synergies?  
> Your opinions would be much appreciated, thanks.

   I have tested the Pro Staff Classic (Filaman says Edberg doesn't
really use this, but the old, discontinued Pro Staff disguised
as a Classic), and I thought it was OK, but a little on the heavy
side.  It weight something like 13.2 ounces, but I can't recall
offhand if this is accurate.  Other people really like this
racquet, so it may be worth trying out.

   The only Graphite I know that is available is the Prince Graphite
2, which Michael Chang uses.   This is not a widebody (and neither
is the Pro Staff Classic, well, almost one).  I haven't tested this
but folks say it is a stiff racquet, and has none of the fancy
vibration dampening systems that newere racquets have.   If you
like stiff racquets, you may try this out.

    In general, I liked all the Synergy racquets.  I tested three
of them in the MidPlus range, the 26, the 28, and the 32.  All
three (most noticeably the 32) are fairly wide at the top of the
head, and for the 32, it makes for nice serving.  These racquets
have a nice feel, but to me, I felt they were "weak in the head"
meaning that it didn't feel like the head of the racquet was
doing as much work as I wanted it to.  If you've tried the
Academy Pro, you should notice a difference.

    I would say that if you generally like the feel of the
Prince, but can't control the current racquet, then try the
28 or 26.  If you prefer stiffer racquets, try the Graphite
2.  If you want a more "solid" feel than the Prince's, try
the Wilson Pro Staff Classic.

   Of course, it's always best to test the racquets despite
the problems you will get in tension not being what you want.
For example, I'm sure Jim Courier's racquet would feel awful
since he strings it so high.  Still, he likes it at high
tensions, and so do some players.

   So, any of the racquets you have mentioned ought to provide
more control since they are not as wide as the widebody, and
hence less powerful.

> -- 
> A motion picture major at the Brooks Institute of Photography, CA
> Santa Barbara and a foreign student from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

    Wouldn't happen to know an Ed Chai from Kuala Lumpur, would
you?  (He's moved, however).

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
From: gawetski@ug.cs.dal.ca (krys  gawetski)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Opinions on Stringers.
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:50:24 GMT
Distribution: dal
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada


	I am seriously thinking of buying a tennis stringer. 
(I got fed up with paying 20$ every month for the cheapest stringing).
I am thinking somthing for about 200$ (portable?) for wide bodies.
And probably from Mail-Order-Place. I am interested if this is creazy
idea or NOT. 
		Thanks.    Krys.
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From: ssubrama@dante.nmsu.edu (SUBRAMANIAM)
Subject: Edberg's GrandSlams
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 17:17:22 GMT

Hi Netters,
	I keep seeing these articles that say that Edberg won a grand slam
tournament every year.  How many years in a row is it?  I know that Edberg won a
couple of Australian opens many years ago, he won Wimbledon in 1988 and 1990, 
U.S. open in 1991 and 1992.  This means that he did not win any grand slam 
tournament in 1987, 89.  When did he win Australian open?

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From: mantell@phage.cshl.org (Lin Mantell at Cold Spring Harbor Lab)
Subject: Olympics & Davis Cup on Rankings??
Organization: Applied Mathematics, SUNY @ Stony Brook, New York
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:36:20 GMT

Hello All,

It seems to me that Olympic and Davis Cup matches are not used in 
calculating the players' world rankings!!  Am I correct??

If so, then why not??!!!  It is not as though they are exhibition type
matches, I think the players want and try to win anyhow.  So why not
have these events used in the ranking system as well??!!!
(If they were, then perhaps we would see people like Sampras, Courier, Edberg,
and Graf,...  play like they do in the Grand Slams!!!)

Thanks...  Please direct personal replies to:  mantell@ams.sunysb.edu

Abe
From: kleung@terapin.com (Keith Leung Keith Leung)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: sneakers for tennis
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:50:39 PST
Organization: BBS

>>      Personally, I don't think that you can beat Wilson Pro-Staff tennis
>>      shoes for performance. They're also cheaper than these flash looking
>>      Nikes and other stuff.
>
>Do they last longer?  I'm not the original author, but I have the same 
>problem.  I wear New Balance 500's and they die every two or three months.
>Is this planned obsolesence?
>
   I would also recommend the Wilson Pro Staff.  The only reason is
that it has Goodyear Rubber for it's sole.  Supposed to last more than
5 times the other brands that are made from Durathane. ( Is it Durathane? )

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