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From: petitc@vccnw01.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: Love and sex
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:09:31 GMT

jdonahue@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Hysterical... ) writes:

>I think Jason's point was not that sex was better than love,
>but that while the two are not one and the same, that one can
>really enjoy both.  Course, this is just one poor confused virgin's
>opinion......

 Well, I personally don't feel sex is THE ULTIMATE you can get with someone
you love.  IMHO, the best most wonderful thing you can do is a special
emotional bonding with that person.  Not by talking---just by touching and
thinking about each other.  Sex lasts awhile, but if this bond works, it can
last a REAL long time.  And the person you love never has to feel hurt or
unloved again.  Maybe it sounds silly (or makes no sense), but it seems we
guard our feelings more tightly than our genitals.

 We all want to be loved, but we're terrified of getting hurt.  If you want
the big reward called Love, you've gotta take a big risk of getting hurt badly.


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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: fippen@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu (J. Fippen)
Subject: No price is too high to pay for respect.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:24:04 GMT

In 1952 I was recalled from my job at GM to active duty during the 
Korean war. We were sent immediately to open Amarillo AFB, TX. We had
a colonel leading the group, four officers, and 26 enlisted men. I was a 1st 
Lt. The colonel had a party for all 31 people and their wives which we 
attended. At this party, after an hour or so, the colonel came up behind
my wife (I was nearby) and grabbed her by one of her buttocks. She immediately
spun around and slapped him so hard his teeth rattled! Then Elizsabeth said to
me: "Fippen, we're leaving". You better believe I left with her.
	Did this hurt my career? Perhaps. But a man must always skuppot his
wife. And I learned a lesson from her: NO PRICE IS TOO HIGH TO PAY FOR 
RESPECT. This is but one small part of LOVE.

				John Fippen
From: bimson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (GREG)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Don't you love it when...
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:28:00 GMT
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1993Jan7.051454.28353@ncsu.edu>, eagle@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel L'Hommedieu) writes...
>Don't you love it when your girlfriend tells you that she has never
>thought of cheating on you?  That made me feel about as good as when her
>aunt told her that I am handsome.
> 
>After a few events recently (one where I hurt terribly when I had hurt
>her, and the other exactly reverse) have helped me realise just how much
>Melissa and I care for each other.  Even if I doubted the sincerity of
>her statement, I have to realise that she would, in effect, be hurting
>herself if she cheated on me.
> 
>After having written this, I have been sitting here for about 10 minutes
>trying to figure out what it has to do with romance.  Well, I'm not
>certain.  I just wanted to say something.  Thanks for listening/reading,
>whatever your particular situation might be.
> 
>Daniel
>--
Yes, it has everything to do with romance.  The ability to feel the 
pain that you caused *and* the pain that you received.  What's my 
story?  Well....

My wife (of just over 15 months, but SO for just over four years) 
would always tell me that she could never cheat on me, and if one of 
us were to, it would be me.  So, imagine my reaction in the middle of 
November to find her with someone else.  She claims that she never 
slept with him, but the feelings she has for him are there (He doesn't 
have them, so it may be a moot point).  Our relationship has 
deteriorated since September 28, 1991, the day we were married.  I 
feel, now with the ability of hindsight, that she was hurting me badly 
by giving me no respect after we were married.  Of course, being one 
that doesn't like to get into fights, I didn't say word one.  So, it 
just kept getting worse and worse.  Now we are separated, and have had 
more communication in the past 2 months than in the previous 12.

The moral?  Love is sharing the good, the bad, the fun, the pain, the 
work, the pride and having your SO feel it, too.

Greg
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From: wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Chester)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,soc.couples,soc.singles
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be? (#2.3)
Date: 11 Jan 93 11:31:32 GMT
Followup-To: alt.romance
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <8JAN199309154074@vax2.concordia.ca> rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca (Rosemary from Montreal) writes:
]>  rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca (Rosemary from Montreal) writes:
]>> 
]>> and strong enough to say the 3 most powerful words in the english language, 
]>> and mean them whole-heartedly.
]>> 
]well i can't believe no one has said the ones i was thinking of -- or 
]should i wait for the gentleman who read them to supply us all with the 
]answer?  (the one with the very large phone bill ...)
]
]"hold the mayo" has got to be the most original guess.

How about:
        I was wrong?
        I am sorry?
 

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From: jfinn@ll.mit.edu (Joe Finnivan)
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be? (#2)
Originator: jfinn@ll.mit.edu (Joe Finnivan)
Reply-To: jfinn@ll.mit.edu (Joe Finnivan)
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Lexington MA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 15:45:19 GMT


In article <C0IqBy.97s@cs.psu.edu>, cowboy@sunws7.sys.cs.psu.edu (Richard M Kessler) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan8.163405.1@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz> quirke_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
|> >martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
|> >> rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca (Rosemary from Montreal) writes:
|> >
|> >>    and strong enough to say the 3 most powerful words in the english language, 
|> >>    and mean them whole-heartedly.
|> >> 
|> >> "I got rhythm"?
|> >
|> >How 'bout either "The rabbit died" or "The test's positive" ?
|> >
|> >Tony Q.
|> 
|> 
|> or
|> 
|> "Where's the Remote?"
|> 
|> 
|> --cowboy@cs.psu.edu
|> 

Or even "Is it in?"

Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,soc.couples,soc.singles,alt.romance.chat
From: sethb@panix.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be? and RESPECT!
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:19:45 GMT
Organization: Society for the Promulgation of Cruelty to the Clueless

In article <C0DyzE.AMD@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-) writes:

>Why not just respect them initially until they prove themselves
>unworthy of respect, if that occurs?

There are different meanings to "respect".  I will treat someone
respectfully until I decide not to (typically, based on the other
person's behavior); however, my respect is something that must be
earned (which isn't easy).

Seth
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From: evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
Subject: Re: Amendment 2
Followup-To: alt.politics.misc
Organization: Aston University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL241235]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:12:09 GMT

cs151kx@lamar.ColoState.EDU wrote:
: 		Being that I am from Colorado, i feel that we have the
: 		right to vote however we choose.  If we voted against
: 		special rights for gays, then that is democracy working
: 		for us.  I don't feel that those who feel the need to
: 		boycot us know what they are doing.  I will join the
: 		boycott against the boycotters and for starters, since
: 		Georgia is boycotting Colorado, and Coke is located in
: 		Atlanta, I will stop drinking Coke.

what on earth is this doing in alt.personals????

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Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Do you have a good pickup line?
From: psypp@lure.latrobe.edu.au
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 05:47:05 GMT
Organization: VAX Cluster, Computer Centre, La Trobe University 

How about this one:

Man: Hey , that dress your wearing really look great on you tonight. But
     you know what would reeeeeally look great on you !

Woman: No ,  No , what? Tell me.

Man: Me!



Paul
From: te@uwasa.fi (Tuomas Eerola)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: LDR's and the Art of Written Communication
Date: 10 Jan 93 11:36:30 GMT
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland

In article <1993Jan10.042208.28925@europa.asd.contel.com> ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com writes:
>
>I will concur ... there is a special woman with whom I started corresponding
>in mid-November.  We met in alt.sport.bowling and after a month of e-mail
>communications where we got to know each other fairly well, she arranged a
>trip out here for a few days around New Year's Eve.
>
There was (don't know sure in English) a dating service kind of system,
computer selects list of addresses. Some of my friends pushed me into it
and I got a letter from a girl. I wrote to her and she wrote to me about
four of five times. We found that there was lots people both we knew and
before christmas she phoned me and at christmas time we talked really much
by phone. She invited me to her place at new year. I got a bit sick but I 
went there anyways. It took seven hours by bus.. She also had a flu so we
were just talking and watching tv. At phone she had talked lots about
how I would meet her friends and we seeing each others. Now I feel somehow
that she was quite dissapointed seeing me. We both had no pictures before.
Now I have phoned her once and she did not get too happy with it and I have
written her once, but not got any answer yet. I also asked her to come but
she just said that she is so busy. 
Kind of afraid I have lost her, but maybe next time...
>
>That first sentence could not be any truer ... that is how Peg and I became
>so familiar with each other ... by expressing our thoughts and feelings in words.
>When you are getting to know someone in this forum (e-mail), pictures are generally
>out of the question.  Ergo, the written words are what we use to gain initial
>impressions ... and words come from the heart, which is where a person's true
>personality exists.
>
>I got a bit of enjoyment out of the fact that she had been told that she "barely
>knew me" when she was making the plans to come out here.  It seems that the
>general perception is to have seen the person physically in order to "know" the
>person.  That's probably the biggest bunch of malarcky I've heard in a while.
>The old cliche, "Don't Judge a Book by It's Cover" comes to mind here ...
>
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: charon@zephyr.cair.du.edu (Spaz)
Subject: Points
Originator: charon@zephyr.cair.du.edu
Organization: University of Denver
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 15:16:06 GMT

 

*Equality between men and women.  Equality straight across the board.  Not 
*Equal when it suits a purpose, Not Equal just when it's convenient, but
*Equality at ALL times be it good, or bad.  Knowing this, do you still
*wish to be equal?

  I'm the person who posted this question in the first place, and there are
  a few  points that I would like to make.

  Point 1:  This question is NOT gender specific; it applies to BOTH males and
            females.

  Point 2:  This "equality" is with regard to RELATIONSHIPS... NOT War, the
            work places, or anything else.  JUST RELATIONSHIPS.  That is
            why I posted the question to alt.romance in the first palce.

  Point 3:  And this probably the most improtant point:
	    The question was RHETORICAL!

Spaz
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: R_WINES@TRZ860 (Rodney Wines)
Subject: Re: Equality...
Organization: Alcatel STR AG, Switzerland
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:05:06 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <phantasm.726033871@vincent1.iastate.edu> phantasm@iastate.edu writes:

> > yes a woman can sail a ship as good as a man....but NO a woman could
> > participate in the jungles of some south eastern country.  Maybe as a
> > nurse or medic, but not in the jungle working in teams....especially
> > the work I did in Viet Nam......a womans survival rate would probably
> > be about 2 or 3 seconds.

The word "NO" covers a LOT of terratory.  I've yet to figure out what's so
easy about being a nurse or medic.  Those people, men and women, from all
recent wars seem to have quite a few scars!

> ... And with proper training, there are no
> reasons why women would be poorer soldiers than men...

Neither men nor women were stamped out with cookie cutters.  There are no
two alike.  As for the military, major sports, whatever, there are a bunch
of skills that are required.  I could care less whether or not women, on the
average, make poorer soldiers than men (although I suspect that because
women survive being nurses and having babies that they could, on the
average, do fine).  It is not an issue whether MOST women (or MOST men) have
the skills to perform a particular task.  If a person has the skills, they
should be allowed to participate, no matter what shape their skin is.

> phantasm

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From: lkahn@mitre.org (Larry Kahn)
Subject: Dating Survey REPOST (2 questions)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:24:37 GMT

I'm reposting this since I put out the first post during the holidays and 
forgot that everyone might be on vacation (except me, who's been working 
like a dog).  If you'd like to add your input to the database, please 
email me or post here.  The two questions were:
1) How many people did you date before you met the person you ended up 
with (hopefully permanently) and how old were you when you met?  People 
that you only dated once count in the total.  For you real studs and 
studettes just try for a reasonable estimate.
2) Approximately what percent of the people that you meet/date do you 
feel have real possibilities of being a potential permanent partner? 

I'll post the results in another week or so,
                  Larry 

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From: R_WINES@TRZ860 (Rodney Wines)
Subject: Re: Equality between men and women; is there such a thing?
Organization: Alcatel STR AG, Switzerland
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 12:49:25 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <1i5p7hINNdcn@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ci022@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:

> No.  I want her to be better than me at her hobbies and career.
> And I want to be better at my hobbies and career.  This is not
> equality.  This is balence.

"Equality" to me, for an SO, means "equality of respect".  Our feelings are
equally important, and one of us shouldn't be the one to do all the
compromizing.

As for balance, I don't have a problem with the above.  With an SO (any kind
of "Significant Other", including all types of friends), I enjoy
differences.  I don't like looking in a mirror.

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From: cs151kx@lamar.ColoState.EDU ()
Subject: Ok, How Strong Should A WOMAN be???!!??
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 00:34:26 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523


	Well, fine then, you can all say how strong a Man should be,
	but what about a woman, how strong should they be?

	Should they be *strong* at all

	what do you think?

	Sincerely Lates,

	Topher
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com (Bob Ashley)
Subject: LDR's and the Art of Written Communication
Reply-To: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 04:22:08 GMT

In article AA00000@aisbbs.com,  Robyjo@f4.n290.z1.aisbbs.com (Robyjo) writes:
>If you are really interested in each other, keep up the communication until a
>visit can be arranged...it may be worth the wait!  One of my friends from the
>Des Moines Area met someone in California through the WWIV Net.

I will concur ... there is a special woman with whom I started corresponding
in mid-November.  We met in alt.sport.bowling and after a month of e-mail
communications where we got to know each other fairly well, she arranged a
trip out here for a few days around New Year's Eve.

>He took a chance and went to meet her, then she showed up in Iowa a few times
>and now they are married and living in California.

When she left, we were both very emotional ... neither of us wanted to be apart
from the other, and it is this strength that is allowing us to keep the fires
burning.  I am hoping that we will have another get-together soon ...   :-)

>I believe you can really get to know another person through written
>communication.  I moved to New York for a year and my (now) husband and I
>corresponded several times a week via the U.S. Postal Service, not to mention
>the phone calls.  I didn't know if he would wait.  But, that is history now and
>we still have excellent communication between each other.

That first sentence could not be any truer ... that is how Peg and I became
so familiar with each other ... by expressing our thoughts and feelings in words.
When you are getting to know someone in this forum (e-mail), pictures are generally
out of the question.  Ergo, the written words are what we use to gain initial
impressions ... and words come from the heart, which is where a person's true
personality exists.

>Happy writing!
>
>RobyJo
>

I got a bit of enjoyment out of the fact that she had been told that she "barely
knew me" when she was making the plans to come out here.  It seems that the
general perception is to have seen the person physically in order to "know" the
person.  That's probably the biggest bunch of malarcky I've heard in a while.
The old cliche, "Don't Judge a Book by It's Cover" comes to mind here ...

Anyway, for those of you who are still skeptical, I'll add to the list of those
who have found happiness from a Net.Romance ... the five days that Peg spent here
were wonderful, and I long to see her again real soon.


Bob - who's rambling in thought while working on deadlines   :-)

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From: afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be?
Followup-To: alt.romance
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
Date: 11 Jan 1993 18:27 EST  

In article <5961@catnip.berkeley.ca.us>, bandy@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (THIS SIDE DOWN) writes...
>rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca (Rosemary from Montreal) writes:

>>	(and i might weigh more than he does!)
> 
> 
>Isn't that a given for the alt.romance denizens?

That's right, moron. *All* of us weigh more than the *rest* of us. 
{Where do these people come from ?}

.. oh, and it's *Dennison*, but I'll forgive you this time. 

>"Free at last!  Free at last!  Thank God Almighty I'm free at last!"

.. and worth *every* penny, I'll wager !

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