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                             THE HANDICAP DIGEST

                                 Issue # 2881

                         Wednesday, August 19, 1992

Today's Topics:


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                            NEED SPORTS ACTIVITY
                           Re: RSD Medline Search
                            Re: TDD RELAY SERVICE
                                Attagirl!!!!
                          Brs: Invasion Of Privacy
                            Deaf Culture - Part 1
                                  I Am Deaf
                         DIAL 711 for RELAY SERVICE
                                 acupuncture
                               Fried Death !!!


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Subject: NEED SPORTS ACTIVITY
From: Ernie.Hamblin@f21.n266.z1.fidonet.org (Ernie Hamblin)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:266/21 - Capital City BBS, Burlington NJ


[This is from the Abled Athlete Conference]

On October 11, 1990 I fell through temporary flooring at General
Electric in Moorestown, NJ.  As a result of the fall I dislocated
my right knee tearing all four of the major structural ligaments.
It seems all the good sports doctors have had a crack at it in the
last 20 months, with less than successful results.  I still have
severe instability in it, every step is an adventure.  As a result
of which I lost my job with GE because I could no longer perform
what was a very physical job.

I am 25 years old and have had 10 sugreries including 3 complete
reconstructions, the last of which was performed by Bo Jackson's
doc, Dr.  Bill Clancy of Birmingham.

In 1989 I played for the Frankford Yellow Jackets semi-pro football
team and hoped to further my career by catching a scout's eye.
Unfortunately, the injury finished all thoughts of that.

After being a very physically competitive person, I am having
extreme difficulty coping with my current condition.  I try, but I
really must take extreme care when walking, so running is out of
the question.

I need to find organized sports activities with people in similar
situation to stoke the competitive fires again.  My doctors told me
that unless technology catches up I will not be able to walk by the
time I'm 30.  I cannot seem to accept that.  However, if that is
the case, I want to find something to keep me going until it is no
longer an option.  I'll coach or play just about any sport.  I miss
the atmosphere of competition.  If anyone has any thoughts or ideas
I would welcome a reply.  Thank You.  Ernie Hamblin

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Subject: Re: RSD Medline Search
From: Michael.Rooney@f737.n106.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Rooney)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:106/737 - AirBoat OnLine, Houston TX


[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

PL><i have a m. d. plus spinal arthritus & extreme scoleosis>
PL> paige

I just started getting this echo and am interested in your
having "spinal arthritis". I have ankyloysing spondylitis
which I tell people is spinal arthritis because it is easier
than explaining A.S. Would be interested in what type of
treatment you are getting from your doctor. Also would like
to hear from anyone else who has A.S.

 * SLMR 2.1a * Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.

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Subject: Re: TDD RELAY SERVICE
From: Ann.Stalnaker@f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Stalnaker)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/2120 - Fingers Talk, Irving TX


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 LL> Steven, all phone calls are not recorded on magnetic
 LL> tape.  There are so many calls that happen
 LL> concurrently, and the magnitude of total calls is so
 LL> large, that capturing all conversations on tape would be impossible.

Uh...er...Leti, all phone calls are recorded on magnetic tape,
but the conversations aren't.  There has to be a magnetic
listing of all phone calls made in order to bill the parties
for the calls.  Everything is computerized now, so it is a
very simple process.

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Subject: Attagirl!!!!
From: Hugues.Blanchet@f136.n167.z1.fidonet.org (Hugues Blanchet)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:167/136 - Ab.'s Place, Montreal PQ


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

AS>Deaf Culture
AS>in my opinion is something the Deaf created among themselves simply
AS>because they choose to be recognized as Deaf persons and thus want
AS>to be a group of such.  We are all individuals first, not a deaf
AS>person.  IMHO, just because we are deaf/Deaf/HoH doesn't mean we
AS>have to belong to one group or the other - we should be able to
AS>fit in any group (personally, I don't see the need for such
AS>sterotyping as a group) and if one is limiting themselves into
AS>such groups, they are missing out on what is out in the BIG wide
AS>world.

Attagirl Annie!!! You REALLY caught my eye here!  Talk about someone who
isn't afraid of standing up and telling what she REALLY thinks! (Just
like my dearest sweetie... <gggggg>!)

You know something Ann? I've known a few people (hearing people) that
took signing classes for one reason... because they REAlLY were
attracted by ONE thing only; the MYSTERY of it.  Nothing more than that!
ALL these people don't last very long in those classes because they come
to realize that indeed, they were attracted by mystery, nothing else.

I KNOW that a lot of people who take signing classes, do it for this
reason only.  They think it's really mysterious to see two people
signing and they know that those two people are *talking* to each
other in english but they STILL can't understand them.  That's where the
mystery (for THEM ONLY) come from.

Little thought here...

....The ones that think that Deaf Culture is really *cool* or *keen* or
whatever, would change idea if tomorrow morning they became
completely deaf... There only love would turn back to the culture they
had.... and that they lost forever.... Those who have never heard in
their lives think that they really need a culture for themselves for the
simple reason that they don't even know about the only culture that
exists in the UNIVERSE..... the culture of the majority... the Culture
of the Living Human Being.  To put ourselves aside from this majority
means we simply do not accept it... And the reason for this is probably
because we cannot adopt to it....or maybe we don't feel like fighting
(or too weak to fight...) to be part of it......

There will always be one, and ONE ONLY culture for me... and if it was
so for EVERYBODY, then the world would be much better off...

We REALLY appreciate the ones we loved when we loose them...

We REALLY appreciate what we had.... the moment we loose it...

We will never, EVER accept LESS than what we already had before...

Thank you Ann... it was so soothing to read your post...

AS>This is just my opinion which is based on what I've experienced
AS>and from what I've been exposed to.

Your opinion is shared by the majority of deaf people I'm quite sure (I
didn't say Deaf, but deaf!!!).  WE (deaf) are the only ones that KNOW
what BOTH are really about!!!  Once the Deaf will understand that we
(deaf) are where THEY are and that we WERE WHERE THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN
BEFORE, then maybe they will very seriously think about what they MIGHT
BE MISSING by shutting themselves out in their only world...

JB>rest of the population.  I understand the need to "belong,"  Laurel and
JB>Karen have spoken of the isolation they feel not "belonging" to either
JB>culture, but I seems to me an individual should strive to understand
JB>other cultures, appreciate them for what they offer, but not to use a
JB>given characteristic as a means to exclude others.

This paragraph wasn't your's Ann... I'll still comment on it.

Yes, isolated we feel from both.  BUT we are still going to stay and be
part of the one we lost, EVEN IF WE HAVE TO FIGHT TO STAY PART OF IT.

I will personnally always be much MORE at ease in the one I'm part of;
the only one that regroup's so many people...

JB>I am learning to sign, and I don't know why.  I only know it is
JB>important that I learn.  Perhaps some day God will tell me why.  In the
JB>mean time I attend classes and continue to build my vocabulary.  I
JB>appreciate Sign for the humor that seems to be built into the language.
JB>I have surpised myself on a couple of occasions because I was REALLY
JB>able to communicate in sign!  I want to sign, not to set myself apart,
JB>but to allow myself to experience more.

How about the mystery side of it?  Maybe he should sit back and try to
ask himself WHY he want's to learn sign language... A lot is confirmed
in his last sentences...

"I have surpised myself on a couple of occasions because I was REALLY
able to communicate in sign!  I want to sign, not to set myself apart,
but to allow myself to experience more."

The mystery comes out that he is SURPRISED that he can REALLY
communicate in sign.... And he even add's MORE.... that he want's to
sign to "allow myself to EXPERIENCE more" !!!  Therefore, it is quite
easy to see that he is attracted by it due to the mystery of *speaking
english without even saying one word*.  WHY would he want to EXPERIENCE
more if he wasn't attracted by SOMETHING!?!?!

JB>IMO people spend too much time noting the differences among others and
JB>far too little time enjoying the similarities.

I believe in complete similarities in the one and only culture that
exist and that will always exist (not matter what some might say), the
culture of MAN, the children of God....

....Amicalement a toi chere Ann...

Hugues

 * SLMR 2.1a * House of Congress: "My reality check just bounced."

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Subject: Brs: Invasion Of Privacy
From: Hugues.Blanchet@f136.n167.z1.fidonet.org (Hugues Blanchet)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:167/136 - Ab.'s Place, Montreal PQ


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Great Leti!!

LL>Steven, all phone calls are not recorded on magnetic tape.  There are so man
LL>calls that happen concurrently, and the magnitude of total calls is so large
LL>that capturing all conversations on tape would be impossible.

I knew Steven was completely out of it and that's the reason I didn't
even answer...

LL> However, you ARE correct when you say that phone companies have to
LL> comply with government laws and restrictions.  But telephone
                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
LL>companies CANNOT monitor the phone lines to prevent "obscene phone
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
LL>calls, murderers, robberies, etc."  Under those cases, they can only
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
LL>monitor if there is a specific reason to suspect wrongdoing.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Oh Ho!!! There must be a bunch of deaf criminals in Montreal then!!! :-)

LL>However, I DO believe that random monitoring of the lines is done, to
LL>ensure that connections are clear and free of echo, etc.  The content
LL>of this monitoring must be kept confidential

And what happens if the monitoring is TDD's?   And what if the ONLY
reason is to "evaluate the quality of the service"?  So it IS illegal
just like I knew.  It isn't hard to understand that it's illegal when
you already know that even the police departments need a warrant from a
juge to tap a phone line!!! And the PHONE COMPANIES have MORE rights
then everybody else??? This is completely STUPID and UNLOGICAL!  Why
should a phone company have MORE rights than anybody else??? Because
it's THEIR communication system?  And what the h@ll do we pay our phone
bills for? To have our conversations tapped???

Thanks for your input Leti! I'll keep everybody posted on what is
happening up here in Montreal... soon....

Regards,

Hugues

 * SLMR 2.1a * BRS: Countdown to the annihilation of the Monitoring sys.

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Subject: Deaf Culture - Part 1
From: Roberto.Ramos@f71.n382.z1.fidonet.org (Roberto Ramos)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:382/71 - BitStream, Round Rock Tx


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

DL>   Yet then you cant have ALL deaf in such a culture, I retain some
DL>  memorys of my hearing years from 1 to 7 yrs, so  persons like Me,
DL>  who are DEAF, yet know about hearing, where do we fit in?

All Hispanics aren't of the Hispanic culture either. That doesn't mean
there is no wuch a thing as a Hispanic Culture. It just means some Hi
panics aren't a part of it. I'll probably get drawn and quartered
for coming out of lurking like this. A guy I know who claims to be a
persona non gratis on this echo told me this. People are n't a
culture, they're members of a culture. He said it goes beyond skin
color or deafness. It comprises a sense of shared identity. Without
that, a person cannot truly claim to be part of a culture. He said a
lot of other stuff, but it's too long to put on here.
     I think he means you have to live a culture to be a genuine part
of it. He said Americans comprise all kinds of "subspecies" of humans
but many aren't true members of their subspecies culture because they
lived apart from it. They became part of a distinct culture so can't
really claim to be Irish, Welch, or Hispanic unless they lived the
lifestyle of these groups.
    Oh forget. He says it better than I do.
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Subject: I Am Deaf
From: Roberto.Ramos@f71.n382.z1.fidonet.org (Roberto Ramos)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:382/71 - BitStream, Round Rock Tx


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

LG>I would like to answer all the people who have been complaining that I hate
LG>the deaf.  These are obviously people who have just started
LG>following my messages reccently.  Let me say -- I do not
LG>hate the deaf.  I AM DEAF!!  Before I lost my hearing, I
LG>was a music lover, and sometimes I think of the outdoor
LG>summer concerts in Philadelphia's Robin Hood Dell.  I think
LG>of the warm summer nights and the Philadelphia Ochestra and
LG>David Oistrakh playing Beethoven's violin concerto, and I
LG>cry.  Then I think of the sound of the rain on the roof and
LG>the wind in the treetops and the surf on the beach, and I
LG>cry again.  Then I pick up a magazine and I read some idiot
LG>telling me what a wonderful "culture" it is to be deaf..

Laurel, I do know this. You tell a Mexican-American you don't
hate him. In the same breath you call him an idiot for extolling
his culture, he'll believe you do hate him. There are pluses and minuses
in every cultural group. That doesn't mean one is better than the other.
Nor does it mean that you're an idiot for thinking your particular
culture is wonderful. To quote, Jim, "It's a mighty poor frog who can't
praise his own pond." From what I'm told, Deaf people (do they really
use a capital "D?") in general are just like others. You have some
fine people, you have some not so fine people. Like anyone else,
they have different appreciations than certain other people. From
my lurking, it seems there is as much hatred from "normal" thinking
deaf toward Deaf people who just want to be deaf as the other way
around. A shame really because I've met some of the better ones on
both sides. Oh well, nothing new. People always find reasons to
disagree and war with one another. If it isn't color, it's creed,
or religion. I read once two Indian tribes in South America got
into killing each other because of a beach worm back in 1860. Seems
the things were a delicacy. They grew bred in extreme abundance but
the tribes still found cause to go at each other's throats.
     This reminds me of factionism inthe barrio. It's so silly it
borders on the ridiculous.
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Subject: DIAL 711 for RELAY SERVICE
From: Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'keeffe)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/26 - SoundingBoard, Pittsburgh PA


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Are you tired of dialing or keying a long string of numbers
to reach a Relay Service?  Are you confused by different
Relay Service access numbers when you travel out of your
home state?  WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS?

Three digit access, called "N-1-1 codes", has been used for
other purposes including emergency 911 access.  However, a
few "N-1-1 codes" have not yet been allocated.  The Federal
Communications Commission (FCC) has under consideration a
proposal that could enable Relay access ANYWHERE IN THE USA
by simply dialing 711.

Several national organizations, including SHHH, have signed
on a proposal urging the FCC to reserve two unallocated
"N-1-1" numbers for nationwide access to Telecommunication
Relay Services.  The FCC will soon consider this proposal,
along with others that might allocate remaining "N-1-1"
numbers for other purposes.  In making its decision, the
FCC will consider any letters of support it receives.

If you are concerned about equal telecommunication access,
write the FCC and let them know.  Cite the difficulty and
delay of remembering and correctly dialing long numbers to
access the relay.  (Here in Pennsylvania it requires eleven
digits, ARGHHH!)  Tell them we need "N-1-1" access to the
relay services mandated by the ADA.

Since this is current business, your letters must reach
the FCC NOT LATER THAN AUGUST 14.  So do it now!  Write:

    Secretary Donna Searcy
    Federal Commiunications Commission
    1919 M Street NW
    Washington, DC  20554

Refer to "Docket 92-105, Use of N-1-1 Codes".  It is
important to have this "docket number" in the heading
of your letter.  Tell them that we _absolutely must_
have N-1-1 access to the Relay Service.

Karen, tell them the difficulty you experienced in Iowa.
Others can relate their first-hand experiences as well.

Here is your opportunity to do something constructive to
improve our Relay Services.  So do it now.  WRITE!

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Subject: acupuncture
From: Joe.Chamberlain@p1.f175.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:150/175.1 - Busted Flush BBS, New Castle DE


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

The following article appeared in the NEW MOBILITY magazine.  I
would like to have your opinion on the use of acupuncture and its
success in treating the conditions mentioned here.  I'm sending
this to you and Paul Li in netmail also.  Netmail does not seem to
work between here and H.K. very well.

=========

ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE

Acupuncture:
Permanent Paralysis

Preventing

     Recent research indicates that a "vibrational" or
"energy" medicine approach to spinal cord injury shows the
most promise of promoting the regeneration of damaged spinal
nerve fibers. The most ancient and still one of the most
effective of these energy medicine therapies is acupuncture.
Considered in Western terms, acupuncture works by generating
a tiny electromagnetic current when the metal needles touch
living tissues.

      Stimulation of the correct acupuncture points sends
this micro-current to the tissues we wish to treat. Asian
medicine long ago worked out which points treat which
tissues. Selection of the correct points is done in a
thorough interview and examination at each appointment.
Acupuncturists diagnose and treat on a case by-case basis
with a custom designed program of acupuncture points, herbs
and schedules of treatment.

      As it happens, acupuncture has a specific affinity for
the nervous system and is therefore the therapy of choice
for paralysis. Asian medicine offers a protocol for
paralysis which is fully holistic, including diet, herbs,
physical therapies, cupping, massage and local applications
as well as extensive and frequent acupuncture.

      Given the lack of curative therapies for spinal cord
injury in the West, I propose that the Asian system be given
a fair chance in the SCI community. Happily for us, Dr. Ron
(Doc) Rosen, of Denver, Colo., is an acupuncturist with a
well-developed method for treating SCI cases at any stage
after injury.

      Many acupuncturists now believe that it is quite
possible to prevent permanent paralysis by using acupuncture
immediately after injury. Doc Rosen says that short-
termparalysis actually serves a protective purpose. The
problem is that, given Western treatment, this normal short-
term paralysis doesn't pass off when it should and long-term
paralysis sets in. Why is this? And what can we do to
prevent it?

     You'll remember that Auntie Jane told you in the Fall
1990 issue about Dr. William 0. Becker's proposal in his
book, THE BODY ELECTRIC, that it is an abnormal
electromagnetic condition of the traumatized spinal area
known as "spinal shock" which prevents the rapid and natural
re-growth of severed spinal nerve fibers. Electromagnetic
manipulation, he said, is the key to reversing spinal shock.

      Therefore, to begin the natural regeneration of spinal
nerves we must stimulate the area immediately and
continually with electromagnetic currents. There are now
several practical ways of producing these currents,including
acupuncture.

     Doc Rosen recommends that paramedics insert the first
acupuncture needles at the scene of the trauma. Then an
acupuncturist can make more sophisticated insertions twice a
day for two or three months. This schedule of treatment, he
feels, will prevent permanent paralysis.

     A recent example of the use of immediate and continued
acupuncture in acute SCI comes to us from China. Dr. Miriam
Lee, an acupuncturist from Palo Alto, Calif, recently saw
acute SCI cases after an earthquake in China. The only
available therapy was acupuncture, which was given twice a
day for two months.

     Dr. Lee was pleased to note that the majority of acute
SCI cases had achieved a good degree of recovery while she
was there. This included sitting up, working from a sitting
position, and bowel and bladder control. Some people were
beginning to walk with braces before she left. Think of the
wonderful results we could achieve by combining acupuncture
with our excellent Western support services.

     But what about long-term SCI? Recent research reveals
that acupuncture can usefully treat SCI symptoms at any
stage. All four acupuncturists I interviewed insist they can
successfully treat pain, spasms, incontinence and tissue
breakdown. This alone is enough to recommend acupuncture to
most spinal cord injured people.

     Furthermore, the electromagnetic currents of
acupuncture can actually stimulate the regeneration of
spinal nerve fibers and lead to the resumption of normal
sensory and motor innervation.

     I propose the following for long term SCI: Use
acupuncture to break down the resistant scar tissues which
may have formed at the severed ends of spinal nerve fibers;
then further acupuncture will stimulate the spinal nerve
cells to grow new fibers and re-start the overall
electromagnetic current of the spinal nervous system and
lead to the resumption of normal function.

      No one knows how long this will take, but Doc Rosen
recommends one acupuncture treatment for every two weeks
since injury. You or your acupuncturist may learn of Doc
Rosen's system for treating paralysis by contacting him at
1510 York St., Denver, Co., 80206, 303-333-9977. Be patient,
he's busy.

     Doc Rosen also claims success in treating the paralysis
and weakness of people with multiple sclerosis with Asian
methods. He recommends two acupuncture treatments per week
for several weeks until a substantial amount of improvement
is seen, then several treatments per year to maintain the
improvement. As with other disorders, each MS case is
treated on a case-by-case basis. Doc Rosen also treats with
Chinese herbs for continuing support to the nervous system.

      As I see it, the biggest problems in using Asian
medicine for SCI paralysis and MS weakness are getting to
the frequent appointments and paying for them. Some
acupuncturists will make house calls. Do ask. As for
payment, many insurance companies will now reimburse for
acupuncture if a physician writes a prescription for it.
Tell your doctor you read that acupuncture is good for pain,
incontinence, spasms, and tissue break down. Best not to
mention recovery just yet. It's really worth a good faith
try. Well, that's all for now. Drop a note about your
acupuncture experiences. 'Til next time, Love from Auntie
Jane . . .

NewMobility/Summer l992

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Subject: Fried Death !!!
From: Curtis.Oglesby@f1.n360.z1.fidonet.org (Curtis Oglesby)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:360/1 - Augusta Forum, North Augusta SC


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 JC>     Spinal cord injury and eating are very closely linked.  A
 JC> good balanced diet and good health are linked.  I don't think
 JC> scrapple should be a daily part of any diet, but I think it can
 JC> be an occassional treat.  I think the sensible diet involves lots
 JC> of fruits and vegetables.  I try to keep my fruit and vegetable
 JC> count 3-4 times greater than my red meat and eggs.

 JC>     This may be lead to an increase in methane gas releases at
 JC> times and the EPA may be ready to launch an investigation soon.

I try to eat "sensible" and I blow up like a basketball because I
can't "increase the releases."  Really painful.  The quad irony.

Antihistimines provide relief from sinus drainage but relax the
bladder muscles.  The quad irony.

Maintenance dosages of antibiotics fend off infections but are hard
on the stomach.  The quad irony.

I could go on.

Curt

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