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From: George.Puglisi@f17.n275.z1.fidonet.org (George Puglisi)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: volunteers
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 00:56:00 -0800

DP>I have to agree with Ed on this one.  Volunteer (or Paid for that
DP>matter) FD
DP>members can *not* have a driver written up for a violation of the
VTL
DP>without
DP>PD witnessing it (at least in New York State they can't).  When I
DP>first
DP>started driving (on calls) I asked a friend who is a police officer
DP>the very
DP>same question after having a near accident with a driver who totally
DP>ignored
DP>lights/sirens - and he said that PD has to witness the actual
DP>occurence.
DP>
DP>
DP>Just my $2.00
DP>
DP>-Dave Pfister/EMT
DP> Port Washington FD
DP> Port Washington, LI, NY
DP>
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I hope you don"t mind me sticking my 2 cent in I knew to this
conference.
I hope fireman never get the right to give tickets. We are fireman we
fight fires and try and teach people how to prevent fires we are not
cops.
I think it would be very unwise and unsafe for us to try and be a cop.
I
main toughts should be about getting our car or fire truck safely to
the
fire and not about pulling someone over because of there bad driving
habits

George Puglisi
Hampton Bays (LI) NY Fire departmet
Ladder 7-5-3 (Driver)


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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: af905@yfn.ysu.edu (Ed Shanks)
Subject: Re: Volunteer vs. paid
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:44:14 GMT


Donald Poole makes some very good points which I won't retype in
any form because if I read them you did, too. 
I was on an all-volunteer department for 5 years or so, now I'm
on a paid department, and I'm the secretary of IAFF Local 1176.
I mention this only to reinforce that I've been on both sides of
the paid-volly fence, and I'll tell you, the volly company I was
on didn't do much "wrong" in the career firefighter perspective.
Usually people judge the whole company by the actions of one
or two people they see. 
I think the friction comes in when paid departments have some
vollys to augment the forces at a big fire. Payroll is kept down,
and you still have manpower at big fires. Administration will
sometimes use the vollys as a threat to the full-timers, as in,
"If you guys want a raise, I'll lay half of you off and man the
stations with volunteers!" Then you explain the problem to the
vollys, who continue to show up for drills and such, as if your
problems don't affect them. Most are young guys who have never
worked in a labor union atmosphere, and they don't understand
when the full-timers don't act happy to see them show up at the
station and drink all the coffee! 
In Ohio, new recruits on a full time dept. take a 240 - hour
basic training class. This is the law. New volunteers take a
36 - hour class. This is also the law, although nothing prevents
a volunteer from taking the 240 - hr. class (except the cost.)
We have drill one day a week, every week. I'm sure some volly
FDs do, too, but A-turn, B-turn and C-turn each have drill,
so you're sure to get training on a continuing basis. 
I realize that training does not equate with professionalism,
but on the other hand if you're doing it all the time, you're
bound to retain more info than someone who does it a couple
of times a year.  Or at least that's my opinion.

-- 
       Ed Shanks      af905@yfn.ysu.edu
       Sr. Firefighter (and lots of other titles, as well!)
       Boardman Fire Dept.    Boardman, Ohio
       "It's not just an adventure, its a job!"
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: kra@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Kenneth R Aron)
Subject: Re: Short, personal, annoying, space eating, time consuming messages
Reply-To: kra@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Kenneth R Aron)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:42:35 GMT

	OK.  Apparently, over the last couple of weeks, someone,
somewhere, connected Fidonet and the Internet with respect to
emergency services related material.  All in all, a good idea,
but there are obvious protocol conflicts between the previously
separate groups.  Let's address a few things:

	1) Internet is by far the larger of the two beasts.  It
encompasses most universities, many government installations, and
quite a few corporations.  Fidonet (as it appears to me) is a
collection of BBSs from around the country.

	2) There's nothing we Internet people can do about the
headers attached to our posts.  That's the way Internet sends and
receives newsgroups.  The signature files, however can, and
should, be limited to four lines.

	3) Our address tells whomever reads our post exactly who
we are.  I'm 'kra@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu' That makes me Kenneth R
Aron at the CUNIX-A computer at Columbia University, an education
site.  A site ending in '.mil' is military and '.com' is
commercial.

	What we need is for someone, who preferably knows both
nets, to develop some kind of standing protocols.  Any takers?
For the time being, Fidonet people, keep the personal messages in
e-mail where they belong, and Internet people, keep the .sigs
short.

Ken


Kenneth R. Aron                 NYS EMT-Defibrillation            | |  / /
kra@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu      Columbia Area Volunteer Ambulance | |/ / 
                                Columbia University, NYC          | |\ \
"EMTs do it with patience"                                        | |  \ \
From: Rick.Wilson@f2112.n327.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Wilson)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Hazard lights on emergenc
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 09:42:06 -0800

gn>  Gday Rick,

Same back atcha, Gerard!

gn> We had a fun one out here where this joker refused to move
gn> across to let
gn> the rescue truck past until the truck was (literally) almost
gn> pushing him
gn> along in front.  When he did finally move, he flipped the
gn> driver of the
gn> rescue truck the bird.  Nice guy, huh?  Pity the driver
gn> didn't have time
gn> to take down his rego number.

Yeah!!  These people here in the northeastern part of the states REALLY
have cajones!  I moved here from Kansas City Missouri and the people
there RARELY pull the crap the people here do!

Take care!!

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From: Kurt.Ullman@f290.n231.z1.fidonet.org (Kurt Ullman)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Research Project --->> He
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:01:01 -0800

JSP>From: schira@ab.wvnet.edu (John Schira, PA-C)

JSP>I am a physician assistant doing graduate work in Emergency
Medicine. My
JSP>research thesis is on computer literacy and use among Emergency
Department
JSP>physicians and physician assistants.

JSP>After a literature search I am unable to find any citations that
detail
JSP>actual computer literacy rates among this group, or among docs in
general.

        Did you check in with the MedLars people at National Library
Of Medicine?  I would think they should have some of that stuff if only
for their planning purposes.  Another possibility would be check in
with
the national organizations for the Med Schools. That might give you a
general idea of what the baseline is in Med Schools.  Did you ask
American College of Emergency Physicians if they have a computer
committee that might be addressing that issue?  Go back into the
computer and find out who are the 4-5 docs that are writing the most.
If
they are that interested, they might have information or at least may
be
able to give you some educated gueses.
        You may find that "educated guesses" are the best you can do.
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From: Warren.Chou@f17.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Warren Chou)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Mace/tear gas
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 03:15:00 -0800

-> From: Kirk.Smith launchpad.unc.edu (Kirk Smith)
->
-> I'm looking for distributors of chemical Mace tear-gas weapons.  I
-> recently took and passed a California permit class (yes, we require
-> permits for EVERYTHING in California), and have no dealers to supply
-> me within 300 miles (at least...I'm not sure what's available in
-> Los Angeles or San Francisco).  Our instructor gave us a photocopy
-> of the Gall's catalog page with Mace on them, and told us to order
-> from there.  When I called today, they informed me that new policy
-> dictates that they won't sell to California (and a few other states
-> where permits are required).  Argh..  I offered to photocopy and
-> fax my permit, but they said no.  So I called the manufacturer in
-> Vermont (Mark Sport, Inc), and they said they'd sell me the stuff,
-> but for $17.99 per can (Gall's had it for $10.99/can).  Why is
-> the manufacturer charging me MORE than a distributor?  They wouldn't
-> give me any names of California dealers either.  Ugg...
->
-> So, I guess I'm basically looking for phone numbers of mail order
Mac
-> dealers.  I'll call them all and see who will ship to CA.
->
-> I think it would have been easier to get a CCW for a handgun.  :-(
->
-> -ks
->
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From: Karl.Hendry@f35.n280.z1.fidonet.org (Karl Hendry)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Ambo uniforms & Protocols
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:30:11 -0800

AM>G'day all
AM>        I work for the New South Wales Ambulance Service and I was
wondering
AM>what your views are on Ambulance/paramedic uniforms?
AM>        We currently have Navy blue trousers with light/sky blue
shirts. No
AM>problem there I hear you say the problem is that it is almost
identical to the
AM>uniform worn by the Police. Also any thoughts on the ways of
distinguishing the

        Many of folks in my area are abandoning the Police style
uniform and changing to polo type shirts. Where I work we have polo
shirts for summer use only. During the colder months I get called a cop
a lot as opposed to hardly ever during the summer. As far as rank goes
color coding the shirts is one idea and embroidered patches is another.
From a fire service aspect it shouldn't be a big deal because on a fire
scene uniform shirts are covered up with bunker gear. And bold rank
qualifiers on EMS scenes and around the house are more for egos than
for function.

                                                              
      
                                                              
      
                                                               
      
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From: John.Kelley@f145.n150.z1.fidonet.org (John Kelley)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Needed Immediately
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:38:00 -0800

Needed for immediate replacement. New or Demo Type1 or Type 3
Ambulance.
 Must be Nationaly Distrubited. Desiel Automatic.
 Contact:
 Chief Bob Bennett
 Christiana Fire Co.
 Christiana, De. 19702
 Phone 302-453-9231   Fax 302-451-9430

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 15:26:18 -0500
From:         AIRBORNE THE FIREMAN IS BACK <CDUNBAR@UNTVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Program

To Charles and to anyone else wishing to have a custom program for VFD, EMS,
or FD use:

Probably the cheapest way to get a computer program for your department's needs
is to have a college student majoring in Computer Science write the program
for you for a nominal fee.  During the Junior and Senior years, CSCI majors
have to write large scale computer programs for projects.  The student can
design a program to fit your needs, get paid for it, and get a grade for it.

I believe this is the best and least expensive way to get a CUSTOM program to
fit your department's needs.

--
Christophe Dunbar               Bitnet: CDUNBAR@UNTVAX
University of North Texas       Internet: CDUNBAR@VAXB.ACS.UNT.EDU
Third year                      Internet: CDUNBAR@SOL.ACS.UNT.EDU
Computer Science major          Internet: CDUNBAR@PONDER.CSCI.UNT.EDU
Cypress Creek Volunteer Fire Department
Argyle Volunteer Fire Department
Level I Firefighter Certification in the State of Texas.....
or as we say down here....
                                     Texas, the Republic of   =)
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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: bc338569@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Brian J. Catlin)
Subject: Where to get cheap lights?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:46:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State University

Hello all,

I am looking for a place (in Colorado or through mail order) where I can get 
a cheap magnet-mount revolving red light.  It will be used for an ambulance 
volunteer's personal vehicle.  I'm not really picky about how fancy it is.  
As long as its red, it revolves, and it is 12 volts, I'll take it.

Any names/addresses/phone #s would be appreciated.

Thanks,
B. J. Catlin
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From: Dwayne.Rich@p20.f1000.n151.z1.fidonet.org (Dwayne Rich)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Drug Testing
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:08:27 -0800

In a message of <Nov 17 17:44>, Eddie Ferguson (8:7301/709@@network)
writes:  
 EF>of it (we are in the process of revamping ALL of our SOPs into new
and 
 EF>more organized formats...that's why I can't quote these SOPs right 
 EF>now). But, I will try and find them and will try to mail/fax them to

 EF>you if you'd like.


        I would appreciate all the information you can send me on both
of these.  
You can mail them to    Dwayne Rich
                        321 W. Chatham St.
                        Cary, N.C. 27511-3245
  


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From: Joe.Nicholson@f123.n202.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Nicholson)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: short, personal, anno
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:05:05 -0800

          Blake Bowers was overheard stating:

BB>    Here in Nashville, a move is about to take the Arson
Investigation
BB> responsibility away from the Fire Marshalls office.  The Mayor, has
BB> decided that it would be better served by being part of the Police
dept.
BB> No mention has been made as to whether or not the present
investigative
BB> staff would be transfered to the PD, but past behaviour has shown
BB> that the staff would probably be reassigned within the fire
department.

Several large cities now have a MAST - Metro Arson Strike Team -
composed
of both fire investigators and police officers.  The advantage is that
the
fire personnel are trained and experienced in determining origin/cause
of
incidents, and the officers are trained and experienced in collecting
and
preserving evidence for trail.  Combined, they are obtaining 4 to 5
times
as many convictions than before.



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From: Kevin.Agard@f94.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Kevin Agard)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: PHOOGRAPERS ON SCENE.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:28:00 -0800

SS||Come on now.....
  ||Let's see, it's acceptable for members of the press to be in front
line
  ||battle units, it's acceptable for the press to be in the middle of
riots,
  ||it's acceptable for the press to ride with the cops, but it's not
acceptabl
  ||for them to be on our scenes?  "For THEIR protection"?

Of course they have a right on the scene. They DO NOT however have a
right to infringe on the patients right to privacy. Nor do the have a
right to impede my ability to render proper care. I would include in
this: Inserting themselves between myself and the patient to "get the
shot" or putting a bright video light in my face thereby reducing my
ability to even see a patient let alone treat them. When they do thing
of this nature is when there getting booted in the ass>

  ||Neighbor, you need to reevaluate your dealings with your local
press.  THEY
  ||CAN make or break you and your department.
  ||Doesn't it seem kinda silly to feud with someone who buys ink in
barrels an
  ||tape by the mile?

When you start putting these particular concerns over the welfare and
privacy of patients it's time for a career change!


Regards,

KMA

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From: Kevin.Agard@f94.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Kevin Agard)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Afa training..
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:35:00 -0800

WJV||I kinda agree with Kevin...More training is required than Red Cross
AFA. I
   ||suggest you check with the First Aid/Rescue Squad where you are.
Most
   ||states/localities require the AFA prior to joining and the
Emergency Medic
   ||Technician-Ambulance (EMT-A) certificate obtained within the first
year. W
   ||that's New Jersey anyway. Different areas are different. Federal
regulatio
   ||mandate the EMT training (Federally recognized EMT training). In
the 23+

Bill,

I must take exception to this statement.. Neither the state or any
localities in NJ Have any requirements for level of training
(Unfortunately). Most squads set there own and the are some that
require
only CPR and Standard First Aid. As ridiculous as this sounds, it is
true, I left one Volunteer organization over just such a policy.

OEMS has yet to make any regulations at all governing Volunteer
organizations. (Also Unfortunate)

The only ones who have taken a stand that I ma aware of is the NJ First
Aid Council. I believe they advocate a minimum of EMT-A. They however,
have no enforcement authority.


Regards,

KMA

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From: Amy.Kisil@f2.n157.z1.fidonet.org (Amy Kisil)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Mt-500 low band 33mhz
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 21:44:00 -0800

   It made an excellent novel, where is the sequel?  Will it be anything
like SCARLETT?


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From: Fred.Matthews@f32.n147.z1.fidonet.org (Fred Matthews)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Looking....
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:20:56 -0800

susie,

The number for Firefighters acad. in Oklahoma is:

Oklahoma City Fire Department
Training Division
900 N. Portland Avenue   73112
405-297-1312

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From: Blake.Bowers@f33.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Blake Bowers)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Ambulance cert
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 12:29:44 -0800

 -=> Quoting Marc L. Appelbaum to All <=-

 MLA> From: mla@pilot.njin.net (Marc L. Appelbaum)

 > as far as i know no state allows low/high top or caddy ambulances
any

 MLA> All ambulances in the US must be either a Type I,II, or III. 
These
 MLA> are the box rigs with a passthru and w/oa passthru and Vans. 
These
 MLA> are the only DOT ambulances.
We have got a reply on RIME, that a couple of midwest states still
allow
Hightops, we will post the results when they all make it in.  These
states
are still permitting Hightops.  Southern Ambulance has advised that
they
are still shipping Hightops, within the CONUS.  A limited number, 
but still some.

... Music City USA, Nashville TN!
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From: Shreyas.Shah@f303.n2603.z1.fidonet.org (Shreyas Shah)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: JEMS SUBSCRPITION INFO
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:58:12 -0800

JM> Does anyone have any information where or who to contact
JM> to get a subscription to JEMS?
 
For a one year subscription send $21.97
or  a two year subscription send $38.97 to:
 
JEMS
PO BOX 469010
Escondido CA
92046-9976
 
or call toll-free 1-800-334-8152
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From: Andrew.Mcmillin@f2.n157.z1.fidonet.org (Andrew Mcmillin)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Foreign language trans.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:08:00 -0800

Thank you for your response.  The program can be used as a tutorial
although it is not the primary function.  If you saw the third 'Indiana
Jones' movie, you'll remember Sean Connery's character saying 'I wrote
it down so I wouldn't have to remember'.  That's sort of where this
thing is.  I took spanish a number of years ago and if someone said a
phrase I might correctly identify it, but if I had to say something in
spanish I'd be lost.  This will allow a computer to store various
phrases and pronounciations and call them back on demand.  If you would
like a sample copy I can mail one out.
                        a.


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From: Paul.Rehman.Jr.@f2.n157.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Rehman Jr.)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Ambo uniforms & protocols
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:49:00 -0800

AM>        We currently have Navy blue trousers with light/sky blue
AM>shirts. No problem there I hear you say the problem is that it
AM>is almost identical to the uniform worn by the Police. Also any
AM>thoughts on the ways of distinguishing the various skills and
AM>ranks of officers.

Alex,
  Up here, (Brunswick, Ohio,USA) our firefighters/EMT personnel wear
light blue shirts/dark blue pants while the officers wear white shirts
and blue pants.  EMS designations are done by labeling the EMS patch as
intermediate and paramedic, the basic EMT has no other wording on
his/her patch.  Officers grade are done with our traditional bugle
system, one bugle for Luietentant, two for Captain, three for assistant
chief, and five for Chief.  Our's is a forty man department, staffed by
paid-on-call personnel.  Hope this helps.

Paul Rehman
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From: John.Linko@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (John Linko)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Looking....
Date: 21 Nov 92 01:00:27 GMT

If you can find the correct department, Oklahoma State University 
publishes extensive traning materials for the fire service. They could 
probably put you in the right direction. JL


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From: James.Campbell@f145.n150.z1.fidonet.org (James Campbell)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Hello
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 07:30:00 -0800

DS> Hello all.  Just a quick note to say there is a new user aboard.
 
      What's the name of the fire company you're with?
      Where is it located? How long have you been a member?
      Is it a career or volunteer company?
 
     I've been with Christiana VFC (in Christiana, Delaware) for 11 yrs
 and 9 months.
 
 ---
    SMRead 3.0  #?    
 
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