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From: plate@cdsmn.mn.org (Doug Plate)
Subject: Re: PC VS ST
Organization: Dicomed, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:23:50 GMT

In article <73872@cup.portal.com> Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes:
>Matt (01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu) writes:
>>From what some here say, your compiler may be very useful, and interesting t
>>play wait, on the DSP (Digital Signal Processor) chip.  It soundslike it's a
>>pretty handy little chip.
>
>Except that the DSP chip has its own instruction set, its own
>compiler, and its own set of intended applications.
> 
>It can't do general purpose processing, it's not a "math
>coprocessor", and it can't do anything to aid most programs.
> 
[...]
> 
>BobR

The DSP (any DSP) can certainly be used as a "math coprocessor", of sorts,
and it can do many things to aid all sorts of programs.  It's just another
CPU, albeit specialized.  Just like any CPU, it will do exactly what it's
told.  In the PC based (i486) workstations we make here, we have a RISC 
blitting the graphics, and a 4 DSP coprocessor helping with math intensive
operations.  It's the... may I say - clever - programming of these ancilliary
processors that sets our product apart (far apart!) from similar packages
running on stock PC's.

Just for the record, I'm not one of the "PC's suck eggs' crowd.  I just
didn't agree with your statements.

Regards,
Doug Plate
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From: cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Chris Herborth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: InterZONE Design
Subject: Re: gcc/g++ installation question
Summary: I need help!
Reply-To: cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:29:44 EST

In <1993Jan26.012750.23019@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, Joseph W Reiss writes:
> 1.  What programs/files do I need to run GNU c and g++?  This includes
> libraries, header files, programs and anything else important.

I got all of the 2.2.2 files, the latest MiNT libraries, and a bunch of
other stuff, and jammed it all together...  ;-)  Warwick or Howard Chu
would be a much better reference here.

> 2.  Where do they go?  (as far as directory structure and such.)

Wherever you want.  Don't mix the C++ and C include files though.  Mine
live in:

g:\gnu\bin     GCC/G++ binaries
g:\gnu\incl    C include files
g:\gnu\incl++  C++ include files
g:\gnu\lib     C/C++ libraries

> 3.  What kind of environmental variables are needed?

Here's the appropriate part from my mupfel.mup (or tcsh.rc under MiNT):

# some of these are probably redundant...
setenv GCCEXEC g:\gnu\bin\
# setenv GCC_EXEC_PREFIX g:\gnu\bin\
# use "unsetenv GCC_EXEC_PREFIX" under tcsh instead of the next line!
setenv GCC_EXEC_PREFIX
setenv GNUEXEC $GCCEXEC
setenv GNULIB "g:\gnu\lib;g:\usr\lib"
setenv GNUINC "g:\gnu\incl;g:\usr\incl"
setenv GCCLIB $GNULIB
setenv GCCINC $GNUINC
setenv GXXINC "g:\gnu\incl++;g:\gnu\incl++\ams"

# Just in case I forget...
alias cc gcc
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Chris Herborth
cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Fantasy Games
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 23:45:06 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <73642@cup.portal.com><OKES.93Jan17010249@SunLab41.essex.ac.uk>
  <JONT.93Jan20114907@ml.harlqn.co.uk>

Jon Thackray writes:
>>Well, Dungeon Master has worn a bit thin now... but Chaos Strikes back is
>Well you can get some more fun out of both by changing the ground
>rules a bit. Try playing with a party of one only. Try it with a
>reincarnated character (DM only, I think Chaos Strikes Back would be
>impossible like this, though I could be wrong!). Try completing in
>minimal real time (DM takes about four hours, maybe less for all I
>know. No idea what Chaos Strikes Back takes).


All *very* good ideas..!
 
Other things to try..   take a party through the game using
Magic only..  or try using Fighters and no magic..
 
(And if you're a REAL Dungeon Master "Champion", you'll know why
those ideals can't be reached...   though it's fun to try..  :)
 
Just for fun, I recently started a new party, and went through
the first six levels without using any weapons... it's VERY
interesting trying to kick Purple Worms to death..! 
My characters were all pretty high level Ninjas by the time they
got to Level Six...  (Had to use magic though..  kicking a Wasp
to death is no fun, and the "Green Ghost" banshee on Level Four
can't be touched without magic...)

And yes, Chaos Strikes Back can be won with just one reincarnated
Champion...   "Raalf, Bad Dude of Romulus" (a Detroit area "inside
joke") had some bad moments all alone there now and then, but
in the end, Balance and Good were restored to the world...
 
Dunno about speed... knowing where you *have* to go, and where
you can avoid going would help a lot... although that also
results in much weaker Champions from having less combat
experience (though if you know enough about the Dungeon to
avoid places that aren't necessary, you'll probably know enough
to keep your people alive, even if they're weaker..)
 
I played through the Amiga version of DM one Saturday and Sunday,
but I had to go down *every* corridor, and fight *every* monster
to be sure that there hadn't been any changes (FTL wouldn't
tell me, and I had to know if my hintbook had to be changed for
the Amiga release..), so I didn't set any speed records..
 
Probably the *most* fun though, is to play through a Dungeon
that's been modified...   it all *feels* familiar, but the
corridors don't all connect in the familar way..  just when
you think you're safe, a Purple Worm comes wandering up a
tunnel that didn't used to be there...!
 
(Yup.. if I had to choose only one program that would continue
to run on my ST, I'll bet you could guess which one it would be)
 
                                                             :)
BobR
From: 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: PC Bigotrynex
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:10:36 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

> I've noticed that all the snippets of wisdom accumulated over the millenia,
> all the valuable lessons people have learned time and time again, have been
> completely forgotten by the vast majority of computerphiles.  It is completely
> amazing to me that so many people are running around under the impression that
> people should be judged by the type of computer they own or language they
> choose to program in--and that money _can_ buy happiness and bigger _is_
> always better.  I have run into many people who flagrantly brag that they
> own a 66 MHz 486.  That really is pathetic when you stop and think about it.

What is the deal with those 66mHz claims anywho?  I've heard that it's not
altogether a true statement -- one of those claims that _should_ be followed by
a little asterisk for disclaimer.   Anyone?


				-Matt
From: doucet@ripolin.laas.fr (Jean-Etienne Doucet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Hexmines v1.2
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:24:55 GMT
Reply-To: doucet@ripolin.laas.fr
Organization: LAAS-CNRS, Toulouse (France)


In article 7qfI@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca, cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Chris Herborth) writes:
>In <gehnen.727352377@apathix>, Gerrit Gehnen writes:
>> doucet@ripolin.laas.fr (Jean-Etienne Doucet) writes:
>> 
>> >To all people who have liked Hexmines:
>> >the new version 1.2 is being uploaded at a.a.u.e .....
>> >These games are for STs/STEs only, no TTs, neither Falcons.
>>                                     ^^^^^^^
>> 
>> What have you done ? Hexmines 1.1 runs well on my TT....
>
>He must be using GFA BASIC...
>-- 
>-------------------========================================-------------------
>Chris Herborth
>cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca


Yessiree, you're right...

Quite a long time ago, I've asked -- on the net -- if there were
some ways to simulate the GET/PUT GFA Basic instructions in C ?
(Preferably HSC)

I've got exactly NOT A SINGLE reply...
So what ? I stick to GFA Basic for writing games and only use
C for writing programs with no (or little) graphics
(such as a CD collection database prog I'm currently finishing).

For people who don't know what GET and PUT are:
GET x1,y1,x2,y2,CH$
	copy the screen portion given by x1,x2,y1,y2 into the string CH$
PUT x,y,CH$
	copy back the screen portion in CH$ as a rectangle with x,y being
	the upper left point coordinates.
Note that there's no restriction such as x and/or y coordinates having to be 
multiples of 16 as in some BITBLT routines...

Maybe someone'll get an idea this time :-)
Maybe even I'll get ONE reply...
But I guess it will say "I don't know :-(".

See you perhaps later...

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From: Jan_Willekens@p12.f202.n281.z2.fidonet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Jaguar
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 12:22:40 +0100
Reply-To: p12.f202.n281.z2.fidonet!Jan_Willekens@nextjk.wlink.nl
Distribution: world
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In a message of <Wed 20 Jan 93 02:51>, 01mbmccabe (2:281/202.0) writes:

 >> to be (or already is) produced by Motorola for them.
 >> 
 >> I thought this information was fairly intersting.
 0> 
 0> Indeed.  Is the Jaguar being done by Atari Corp. or Atari Games??

Atari Corp.

Greetings...                                                - Jan -
          FidoNet: 2:281/202.12, UseNet: jan@nextjk.wlink.nl

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From: rossin@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ted Rossin)
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 16:33:44 GMT
Subject: Re: Atari OS chips...6 or 2
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st

The two chip set will not work in your machine unless you add some logic
to drive the chip select lines during the entire address space.  You will also
need to supply two extra address lines to the two chip set.

			Ted.
From: awest@ub.d.umn.edu (The Piano Man)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: RAM disk, lharc...
Date: 22 Jan 1993 10:17:58 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

I have a couple of questions for you net-gods...

First, what is a "RAM-disk" and how do I create one?

and...

What programs should I use, and where are the directions for archivers for
.lzh files??  (I just want to extract them!!!)

Sincerely ignorant,

Andrew West
awest@ub.d.umn.edu

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From: mm68@unix.brighton.ac.uk (Lost Boy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: RAM disk, lharc...
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:24:28 GMT
Organization: University of Brighton, UK

awest@ub.d.umn.edu (The Piano Man) writes:
> 
> First, what is a "RAM-disk" and how do I create one?

A RAM disk is a clever little program that fool your st into thinking it
has another drive connected when in fact the drive in a block of memory.

This is *very* simplistic, but the principle is that because a ram-disk
is in memory, access is *very* fast. You can get alot of different ram-disk
set up programs, which offer various features including reset-proof
ramdisks (remember memory gets wiped when you turn off, so copy everything
you want off of the disk before you switch off!) so that you can recover 
your ramdisk after a reset (pretty handy).
 
> What programs should I use, and where are the directions for archivers for
> .lzh files??  (I just want to extract them!!!)

.lzh files need the lharc.ttp program, most pd archives hold at least 
one version of this program. lancs.pdsoft in the uk have it, atari.archive
too, look in your nearest local archive.


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From: Jan_Willekens@p12.f202.n281.z2.fidonet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Conner HD on a TT... problem solved!
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 11:54:16 +0100
Reply-To: p12.f202.n281.z2.fidonet!Jan_Willekens@nextjk.wlink.nl
Distribution: world
X-FSC-PATH: 4202/12
X-FSC-PID: LED 1.00

Hi!

I would like to thank all who helped me in trying to find the answer to the
problem I had connecting a Conner hard disk to a TT.

The problem has been solved. In an old issue of ST Magazin there was a 
review of hard disks. There was something funny when you connected a Conner
to a TT. The TT wouldn't boot from it if the SCSI ID was set to 0, 1 or 2.
(TT ID 8 , 9, 10) So I set the ID to 4 and my problems were gone!

Greetings...                                                - Jan -

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From: mattias@tse.uucp (Mattias Hembruch x0830)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: PC Bigotrynex
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:19:54 GMT
Organization: Toronto Stock Exchange

In article <H.eL2Hg85D8ng@fredrik.atari.no> jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no writes:
>In <1jqhd4INNlkf@golem.wcc.govt.nz>, Steve Wells writes:
>>> What is the deal with those 66mHz claims anywho?  I've heard that it's not
>>> altogether a true statement -- one of those claims that _should_ be follow
>>> a little asterisk for disclaimer.   Anyone?
>>> 
>>
>>There is now 100Mhz capability.  Not that anyone cares, right!? 8-)
>>
>>
>Oh, this was what I've been waiting for all my life: A computer with
>a processor whos clock frequency is reciveable on my FM-Tuner! I *MUST*
>have one of those }B^)
>
>**Evil grin**

I can see it now: the people who NOW buy those computers which look nice
and have flashy demos, will buy computers which SOUND nice on their FM Tuners.
:-)

"This computer you bought is a piece of crap!"
"Yeah, but listen to it on my $5k system with 25 equalizers! Sounds sweet,
don't it?"

REAL computer generated MUSIC :-)
Mattias
-- 
Mattias Hembruch
>> My views do not necessarily reflect those of the TSE. <<
E-mail: mattias@tse.asd.tse.ca
From: abaddon@uk.ac.liverpool.scm.suprenum (Kevin o donovan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Compatability and attitudes
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:30:19 GMT
Organization: Centre for Mathematical Software Research, Univ. Liverpool, UK

The argument about using non standard disk formats for the game software itself
is all well and good. OTOH, I can see no possible reason why some software
insists on using its own format for save game files. Its a bit stupid having
umpteen floppies with different 5k or so save files on each one because the
standard TOS routines weren't used for file access. 

Kev
From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Upgrading an ST-520
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 00:05:07 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <73888@cup.portal.com>
  <C143u2.zt@news2.cis.umn.edu>,<73970@cup.portal.com>
  <C15tMo.F8K@news2.cis.umn.edu>

David PZ writes:

>Then you're willing to admit that plugging in a new sound board on an Intel
>clone is NOT an "upgrade"?  You're willing to admit that the only "upgrade" 
>a computer system is the replacement of the CPU?


Plugging a device into a port on a computer is NOT an upgrade.

Plugging a modem into an serial port is NOT an upgrade.
 
Plugging a printer into a parallel port is NOT an upgrade.
 
Plugging a monitor into a video port is NOT an upgrade.

Plugging a joystick into a game port is NOT an upgrade.
Plugging a cartridge into the ST's cartridge port is NOT an upgrade.

Inserting a sound card into a PC is a sound upgrade.
 
Inserting more RAM chips or SIMMs is a memory upgrade.

Inserting a better video card is a video upgrade.

Inserting a high density floppy controller is a floppy upgrade.

Changing the motherboard to utilize a better CPU is a system
upgrade.
 
ALL "PC" systems allow the above "upgrades".
 
NO "ST" sysems allow the above "upgrades".
Ask Atari Corp. if their ST systems are "user upgradable".
 
BobR
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: seimet@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Uwe Seimet)
Subject: Re: Recommended Falcon monitor?
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Distribution: eunet
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:16:34 GMT

selick@csa.bu.edu (Steven Selick) writes:


>What is/will be the recommended monitor for the Falcon (if/when it

I'm using a NEC Multisync 3D with it. It can display _all_ Falcon
resolutions. As far as I know there are only very few other monitors who can
handle this.

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*        seimet@rhrk.uni-kl.de        *
*        seimet@chemie.uni-kl.de      *
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* I really hate this damned machine,  *
*     I wish that they would sell it. *
* It never does that what I mean      *
*     but only what I tell it.        *
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From: julian@math.uni-muenster.de (Julian F. Reschke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Profibuch (was Julian Reschke involved.
Date: 26 Jan 1993 12:02:17 GMT
Organization: Westf. Wilh.-Universitaet Muenster, Germany.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: julian@math.uni-muenster.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: jacquard.uni-muenster.de

In article 10771@cs.ruu.nl, avgroeni@cs.ruu.nl (Annius Groenink) writes:
> 
> I'm sure you're copy of the profibuch is in Dutch!  Which I find striking
> considering the current discussion.  I mean THAT wasn't necessary AT ALL!
> But it seemed that there was enough of a market to do that.  For your
> information, Holland has 15 million inhabitants, and hardly any other people
> on the world (OK, another 30 million?) read Dutch.

This was a decision made by Sybex Netherlands (and, btw, it didn't pay off at
all, at least not for me). Please understand that these decisions aren't made by
the authors. Sybex decides.


________________ cut here _________________________
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From: bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: A1200 versus Falcon 030 once again (FAQ?)
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:02:45 +1100
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

> : jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no (Joern Moe) writes:
> :
> : >These days the atari and amiga people are arguing which computer have
> : >the fastest cpu (Falcon 030 versus A1200). The 68030 have better performance
> : >than a 68020 when placed in an equal arcitecture. Additionaly the A1200 runs
> : >at 14.4 Mhz, wheras the F030 runs at 16Mhz (i realy think its 16.01xxxMhz)
> : >giving it a extra 10% over the A1200. Summing it all up, my bet is that
> : >this is a dead race!

        Although I am an Amiga user, I am not anti-Atari. I've seen the
Falcon in action and came away moderately impressed. The Falcon still
falls short on some areas I consider important (no internal slots is
one point against the Falcon in my book), but I won't dismiss the Falcon
out of hand.

        Now on to Joern's comments. In an equal architecture an 030 will
outperform an 020 every time, yes. But isn't the Falcon's 030 running on
a 16 bit bus (not counting the graphics subsystem)? In this case, the
difference in clock speed is somewhat balanced by the difference in bus
size (16 bit on Falcon, 32 bit on A1200).

        In a test of raw compute power (eg calculating mandelbrots), I
would expect the Falcon to be faster because of the better caches on
the 030 and the higher clock speed. In a general use environment where
you're moving the mouse about, opening and closing windows, loading
programs and files from disk, etc, I would give the edge to the A1200,
because of it's wider system bus (and better throughput capability as
a result).

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: dpj4303@ultb.isc.rit.edu (D.P. Joyce)
Subject: Laptop Alarms
Summary: Laptops, alarms	
Keywords: alarms
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:21:40 GMT

LAPTOP ALARM
------------
Does anyone have any info on an alarm that I can put on my laptop (PB
100) that will sound when it is moved. I have read about them but have
not been able to locate one?


Any Help would be apprieciated!


					Dennis Joyce
					dpj4303@ultb.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,misc.forsale.computers.d
From: melz@well.sf.ca.us (Melvin L. Zwillenberg)
Subject: Toshiba T1000 External Floppy drive for sale
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:01:02 GMT


FOR SALE: External floppy drive (5.25", 360K) for T1000. Also works with
T1000XE, T1000SE and others of the T1XXX family.
$125.plus shipping, or best offer.
From: jiu1@husc11.harvard.edu (Haibin Jiu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: LCD wear.
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:04:13 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1993Jan25.023622.9039@cis.uab.edu> hyatt@cis.uab.edu (Robert Hyatt) writes:
>It doesn't impact the LCD "pixel" to be either on or off.  It doesn't have
>a maximum number of minutes in black mode or white mode.  If it did, what
>would your watch do after 5 years? (and I have one that has worked that long.)
>In short, run it like you like it....  several engineers have responded in
>this group in the past that it makes absolutely no difference to the LCD
>panel's life...  So, to quote them, if you like black on white or white on
>black, enjoy either....  you won't be hurting your LCD at all.

In almost all cases, the extra care you put on a LCD screen (or anything
hi-tech) does not generate much marginal longevity (if any) for the appli-
ance, so before your LCD screen breaks down you will probably have bought
another machine.  But, it never hurts to use things wisely and with care.
No one knows who will get struck by lightening the next time.

Just my 2 rubles.

HBJ
From: 92637966s@sgcl1.unisg.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: SPEED vs. RAM in a notebook !?!?
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:24:20 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland


Hy everyone,

	I have a SHARP 6781 notebook for about 6 months now. It has a 386SL
processor with 20Mhz, 80 MB HD and 2 MB RAM. And this is where the problem
starts:
	
The following programs are installed on my notebook:
- Windows 3.1
- Winword 2.0
- Excel 4.0
- Powerpoint

It takes about 40 sec. to start MS Draw in Winword
It takes about 1,5 min to start Powerpoint
It takes about 1 min to start Winword.
...

A friend of mine has a COMPAQ Contura (with 25 Mhz and 4 MB RAM) and is a 
lot - I mean a lot - faster than I am.

Is it the additional 2 MB or the 5 Mhz that makes his computer so much faster?
Of course it has to be both, but:

How much difference in speed are an additional 2 MB or even 4 MB of RAM.
Is it worth buying the additional memory or should I step back from investing
anything in this machine.

Thanks for any help - please reply by email.

Christian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops