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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: What A Quiet Bunch
Date: 1 Jan 1993 19:19:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU (Natalie Maynor) says:

>> and that stack of work appears to have *grown*, which is also the sound
>
>Hide it.  That's what I've done with all my still-undone work.  It's buried
>under my desk and won't come out till tomorrow at the earliest.
>
Natalie, while it's hiding in there, it's breeding.  Work is like wire
coathangers, leave it alone in a dark place and it multiplies.

>undone.  Or are you?  Never mind.  Today isn't a morphological sort of day.

Definitely not, expecially for those who are *still* hung over.  <for shame>

>Bernard just ate cornbread and black-eyed peas.  I hope all of you have done
>likewise.
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
>
No black-eyed peas around here; us Yankee types of more or less Polish
extraction [more less than more in my case] eat pickled herring for good luck
in the new year.  Ours came out of the kosher case in a local supermarket.
It tasted pretty good, too - herring in wine sauce with lots of onions.  One
of these centuries I'll have to learn to make my own, but until then, ACME
and Nathan's will have to do it for me.:-)
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:16:34 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Short Note (brag/?)
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        In keeping with the grisly thread, I guess I should report that two MSU
        students were brutally murdered a couple of weeks before Christmas.
           --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Hey, you guys are really getting the hang of this.  Don will have to
change his underwear twice today if this keeps up...

G
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From: kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey)
Subject: Re: Red Line Story
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 05:38:43 GMT

Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU> writes:

>Is SEPTA's safety record any different from other mass transit orgs?  I can
>remember only one bad accident (3-4 casualties) in the past six years,
>strictly off the top of my head.

If I recall correctly, they had a rash of relatively serious
accidents/screw-ups in a very short period of time a few years back,
leading to a somewhat scarred reputation. Combined with the general horror
stories about corruption, etc, from my friend, SEPTA now scares the shit
out of me.

This isn't to say that I wouldn't be scared to death of the MTA if I had a
similarly connected friend here.  I didn't miss the Union Square disaster
train by that many hours.

--Aaron

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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: Say Something To Jeffrey
Originator: rita@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 02:50:24 GMT

In article <9212270226.AA23967@Ra.MsState.Edu> Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU> writes:
>Somebody say hello to my nephew.  I'm showing him e-mail.

	I think Jeffy should be pretty honored that the list beagle
hisself said hi to him.

	Yo, kid, tell your Dad  someone from Cambridge said "hi."




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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Nerve of steel
Comments: To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>

> In article <WORDS-L%92122122471041@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> gilbertsmith
> <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU> writes:
>
> >It probably means that that person simply isn't <well-connected>.  I,
> >personally, am right proud to be on the list, even though various
> >acts of God have prevented my maintaining the BWP status that I once
> >enjoyed.  The controller went down again, as you all may have guessed.
> >It now has a new <power> supply, thanks to Mr. IBM with the bad breath.
> >So I am, once again, back.
>
>         After such a run of bad network connections, I'd be
> considering paying for an accout at CONCERT if I wuz you.
> --
> Rita Rouvalis                                Electronic Frontier Foundation

Thanks, rita.  Just as you said that on Dec 22, the e-mail connection
went out and only today, the 27th, has it miraculously been restored.
So what do I do with 672 messages?  If I delete them, I won't know
what everyone has been saying about everybody else.  Nothing about me,
I'm sure, since the list has a memory of about twelve minutes, or so
it seems.  Anybody remember who I am?
--ggs (the one with the silver Miata.....)
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Subject: Re: Questions

> Does 'Oil of Wintergreen' mean anything to you?  Ever do athletics.  Yuk.
>
> G

Oh cripes, yes!  My mother used to put it on "charly-horses" and other
kinds of muscle pulls.  It's even more disgusting than Vicks Vapid
Rub.

Ken
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 1993 02:24:23 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: An observation
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              02 Jan 93 18:23:05 -0500. <9301030004.AA28926@sics.se>

  Karen pulls a lefsa out of a hat:

  >I was going to say something about lefsa, but I guess that is Norwegian?

  Yes, lefsa is Norwegian. Where did you learn about lefsa?

  >Karen
  >who has a bad cold

  but nevertheless is known to be the wisest woman in the US with a
wicked pack of cards.
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From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Deep beliefs
Organization: Cuddlehogs Anonymous
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:14:36 GMT

In article <01GSKQZQD43M000X7T@camins.Camosun.BC.CA> Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA> writes:
:Explain to me then, why so many people find the use of Christ and
:Jesus Christ so effective as swear words, rather than Hitler, or Stalin,
:or Pontius Pilate. Funny I don't hear anyone taking the name of Moses
:or Mohammed, or Allah or Buddha in vain.

Because dils like you get so deliciously wound up by it.  No other reason.

G
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 01:20:10 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Prof's revisited.
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> : It is closer, if not identical, to the US usage, viz. someone who gets a job
> : in academia is a "professor", at least if her office has a window :-)
> : People who insist on its usage are considered pretentious unless they
 attained
> : the rank of FULL PROFESSOR, in which case they are considered PRETENTIOUS.
>

Interesting use of the passive.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 09:09:03 EST
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Operating Systems
              28 Dec 1992 20:53:44 MST from <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>

No, Dan, it's a whole new mailer (with pop-up windows, menu choices,
message pop-up windows, etc.). I got used to the old one, and they changed
it on me.

Evelyn
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Date:         Sun, 27 Dec 1992 21:11:32 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: attractiveness and personality
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              27 Dec 1992 19:16:19 -0600 from <harwell@TENET.EDU>

On Sun, 27 Dec 1992 19:16:19 -0600 Anne Burton Harwell said:
>Send me the pic, and I'll gif it, and then we all can bask in your radiance
>;-)

ok...i'll dig one out as i continue to clean the office....do you have an
address besides the work address i've used?  if so, send it off list....

dan
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From: kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey)
Subject: Re: Gleanings (73)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:40:19 GMT

Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu> writes:

>A couple more tidbits on Al Roker:
>  He does the weather on the Sunday Today program and is backup for
>the weekday show.

He also is the weatherman for Saturday Today as well.  He also can be
found popping up in one form or another on "Late Night with David
Letterman" at least once every two to three weeks, mainly due to the fact
that the Letterman studio is directly across the hall from WNBC's news
studio, and they're on-the-air at the same time Letterman is taping.

>  He used to be the weatherman for Channel 3 in Cleveland.  A number of
>NBC's top on-air persons started in Cleveland; it was an NBC Owned-and-
>Operated station.

You wouldn't believe the number of emails I get from people in Cleveland
all the time wanting Al news.  Someday I'm gonna newgroup alt.fan.al-roker
and be done with it.

--Aaron

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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: X or 13? You decide! (was Re: Now for something..)
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>        I'll have to read the Atlantic article, but Generation X'ers
>are those who were born in the 1960's.  So Jenna, //anne//, Alec, and
>Rashmi are all X'ers.  Aaron, Lisa, and the VMI'ers, on the other hand,
>were all probably born in the 1970's (assuming they are average aged
>college students).  They are not X'ers.  Perhaps they are the
>Thirteeners the article was talking about?

        The _Atlantic_ article (cover story in Vol 270, No 6, December 1992)
        defines Boomers as the 1943-1960 birth cohort, Thirteeners as
        1961-1981.  That makes anyone who's now 11-31 a Thirteener, while
        Boomers are 32-49.

        Generations are longer than decades.

        Yeah, I thought of Ken upon seeing the cover.  I too am fleshier than
        that.  Also grayer, particularly the beard.  The young'un looks like at
        least 1/3 of Pitt undergrads and local HS students.
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Date:         Sat, 26 Dec 1992 10:42:09 EST
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.bitnet@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Scapular chain

> Because the Redemptorists used to give retreats at our church and
> they more or less claimed ownership of it. It doesn't surprise me
> that it would have spread beyond that ownership (if that's indeed what
> happened).

My school was run by Dominicans, and we all wore scapulars.

Karen
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Date:         Sun, 27 Dec 1992 21:21:43 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      good football day, mostly
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denver donkeys were thoroughly thrashed.....

the greenbay peckers didn't make it....they weren't even valiant....they
sucked the big purple weenie, unfortunately....had hoped they would finish
off the washington weenies....after all, the raiders got the chance started..
oh, well....

and tampa bay WON....did that game set a new record for missed field goals?

and still glowing over the raiders fine win yesterday.....

the raider fan....in windy ideehoho
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20:57:31 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Holidays
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> i did...thanks....think it came on saturday....wish the postoffice had
> cancelled it with a McComb postmark.....now i'll have to look up and
> see where that is....

I was appalled to discover a few days ago that mail from Mississippi State,
MS, is going to have Columbus postmarks on it from now on.  What's the point
of shuffling mail away to another town for a postmark?  What was the postmark
on the McComb card, Dan?  It was mailed in McComb.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 28 Dec 1992 00:24:22 GMT
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In a previous article, ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU (Dan Lester) says:

>On Sun, 27 Dec 1992 06:15:06 GMT Ruth M. Hanschka said:
>>   5   203     209.7  0.0%   ap290@cleveland.FREENET.EDU  (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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>   doesn't surprise ME a bit....   o-)    (yes, that shows the right eye,
>  which does work.....)
>
Is the other one making any progress? 

>but what ELSE do you do ruth?  Andy did ask me what you do....and at that
>moment i couldn't think of what the answer was...besides "send email on
>internet"....i couldn't even remember what your degree is in.....sorry

Right now?  Send e-mail and resumes.:-(  I was working for a temp agency, but
that bit the dust.  I'm still officially employed, but they haven't called me
in ages.  So, out go the resumes, back come the.....nada.  This is a borrowed
account [the one I'm telnetting from, which will probably die on January 17]

>for th stupidity....but how bout the answers....and i'll be properly
>shamed for not remembering.....
>
Nahhh, don't worry about it...you've had enough else on your mind [and you 
couldn't have read the answer anyway, if you'd asked before.:-)  I'm still
bunking chez parents, so I don't have rent to worry about, or college loans
[never had any] or car payments.[never had those either, and besides, the 
car's my father's officially]:-)

ps - the degrees are both in Communications, but I want to go
back for an MLS sometime.~r:-)
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From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Deep beliefs
Organization: Cuddlehogs Anonymous
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:31:59 GMT

In article <01GSKZND44DS0019M3@opie.bgsu.edu> CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu writes:
:I belittle and mock such beliefs as I have the wit and opportunity to do so.
:I dispute the argument that mocking and belittling beliefs "does no one any
:good."  In point of fact, satire and mockery are highly effective tools of
:discourse.  I much prefer them to bombs and punji sticks, myself.

And people who hold beliefs so strong 'they're willing to die for them'
(which usually reads they're willing to risk death while trying to kill
someone else...) scare me shitless.  Those are the ones that deserve
ridicule and dispute most of all.

G
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Operating Systems
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              28 Dec 1992 09:09:15 EST from
              <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>

On Mon, 28 Dec 1992 09:09:15 EST Evelyn Duncan said:
>I think the thing I hate the most about this new mail package is that
>before if I had a lot of mail (such as this morning), I could just grab


>actually goes through the mail process (build an index for the notebook
>and load the mail into the notebook), which means I have to wait for 5
>minutes before I can edit.  Sending is harder, too (the default is to
>cancel the send), but confirming the deletions is easier (just press ENTER).
>All-in-all, I want my old mailer back!

i bet you can change those options on your (oh, hell, i forget the name of
it, essentially your init options in ricemail)....for example, i have mine
set to confirm send....helps stop eoops.....and to auto delete without confirm
on exit or elsewhere....
   some people here have their  options set to do a readnext when they hit
delete....but i prefer to keep those separate.....check it out....bet you
have the same options plus more....sounds like people just changed the
default options on your system.
                                   dan
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Date:         Sat, 2 Jan 1993 14:13:47 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: More songs about buildings and food
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From: Fizzy the Fribble <fribble%rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk@KATE.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>

> In England, Mortice locks are still very much the prevalent type of lock.

Might this account for some of the strange tenoncies one sees
from time to time?

Peter
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: not to blow my own horn
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              27 Dec 1992 06:15:06 GMT from <ap290@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>

On Sun, 27 Dec 1992 06:15:06 GMT Ruth M. Hanschka said:
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   doesn't surprise ME a bit....   o-)    (yes, that shows the right eye,
  which does work.....)

but what ELSE do you do ruth?  Andy did ask me what you do....and at that
moment i couldn't think of what the answer was...besides "send email on
internet"....i couldn't even remember what your degree is in.....sorry
for th stupidity....but how bout the answers....and i'll be properly
shamed for not remembering.....

dan the cyclops
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Touchtones and Alternative Librarians
Date: 30 Dec 1992 04:42:10 GMT
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In a previous article, Graham Toal () says:

>        Yes, this looks like an especially delectable **E-OOPS**!@#!@#!@#
>
>        -abh
>
>It does?  Made peefect sense to me.  Haven't you been following
>the earlier correspondence?  Not deleting stuff unread *again* are you? ;-)
>
Maybe you only understood because of the references to cranky people and
milk addiction?:-)

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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 1993 19:22:24 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: buffalo did it
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              4 Jan 1993 00:45:44 GMT from <ap290@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>

On Mon, 4 Jan 1993 00:45:44 GMT Ruth M. Hanschka said:
>That game was like two different ones.  In the first half, Houston blew
>Buffalo out of the water.  I mean 35-3?  Puhleuuuze.  Then Houston seemed

   nope...a couple newsdudes got it wrong too....28-3 at half....the fifth
td came in first couple minutes of third quarter...but it WAS 35-3 before
the greatest comeback ever....at least in proball....

>Oilers, since that one TD shouldn't have counted, but without instant
>replay all the bum calls stand.  [tough luck, Warren.....:) ]  I think the

   well, that td wouldn't have been called back with replay....as it wasn't
a call that was subject to overrule, as it wasn't called....

>but I'm quoting some of those commentators, and they aren't exactly known for
>their brains.:-)

   but they DO have all the computergeeks and statgeeks with them that can tell
all those weird details that we discussed not long ago....the smith is 7-1
against jones when they are playing away in the 80s on artificial turf, but
in the 90s he's only 1-2 under the same conditions....but if you factor in
whether or not he also had bozo in as wide receiver, then that changes it
to.........you know......


mr. cyclops, my dear
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:37:09 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Deep beliefs
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              22 Dec 92 04:14:39 -0800. <9212221522.AA19760@sics.se>

  >Why? What difference would it make? You obviously attach a meaning to
  >the word respect that I don't.

  I do indeed find it a bit odd to say that one respects that which
one holds in contempt. But this is of no great consequence, since you
have now made it clear that what you object to is "mockery". So let us
try to understand this specific objection to mockery, quite apart from
the notion of respect. Your present comments

  >Seems to me, if you want to apprehend what is contained in even the most
  >repugnant of values, ideas, etc. so you can at least UNDERSTAND them,
  >(or is that not a worthy pursuit?) then you're not likely to get very
  >far if you mock them, least of all are you likely to affect the thinking
  >of the person whose ideas you find so contemptible. Surely this is all
  >common sense!!!???

are really nothing to the point. First, there is still no explanation of
why you object to mockery, but not to attacks and denigration. Surely
everything you say about mockery being an obstacle to understanding etc
could as well be said about attacks and denigration? Second, supposing I
have formed an opinion of certain deeply held beliefs, which I believe
I understand well enough, why should I abstain from mocking them, on your
view?
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