From: hgschmie@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Henning Schmiedehausen)
Subject: ParNet NET: Filesystem - schlechte Nachrichten
Summary: Rechte fuer die Quellen am NET: Filesystem bei C=
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:58:18 GMT
Keywords: ParNet NET: Quellen oooooohhhhh nooooo Cooooomoooooodoooooore!

Howdy!

Folgende Mail habe ich eben bekommen:


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>From: Doug Walker <walker@unx.sas.com>
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>Subject: Re: ParNetFilesystem and parnet.device with Streams
>To: hgschmie@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Henning Schmiedehausen)
>Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 8:04:49 EDT
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>> Howdy!
>
>Hi!
>
>> I noticed, that there are still some bugs in the NET: filesystem, so
>> I wanted to fix them, but.. I couldn't find any sources to 
>> netpnet-server and netpnet-handler on *any* ftp-site... =:(
>
>That's because the source was never released.
>
>> (There is definitely one bug with Lock("",... ) and another one
>> will pop an ugly requester while using ExAll(...) )
>
>I didn't know about the Lock("",...) bug, but I'm not too surprised
>that ExAll doesn't work - I never implemented 2.0-specific packets
>in the file system since 2.0 wasn't out when I wrote it.
>
>> Any, if not, why? Can you send them to me? I would be *very* thankful.
>
>The reason is that I no longer own source code rights.  ParNet was
>totally rewritten to make it asynchronous and device-independant,
>then it was turned over to Commodore to be made into a product.
>Commodore has had it now since January of 1990 and still hasn't
>come out with anything.
>
>There is a slight chance that I can get source code rights back and
>therefore have permission to do an update.  If so, then I will do it.
>Lots of people have been asking for one.  I have asked for the
>necessary permissions and am waiting for the legal wheels to turn.
>
>> Another question: I stumbled over the sources for the parnet.device and
>> you mentioned a 'STREAMS' protocol. In the version of the source, that
>> I got, this one is not implemented, there is just the DataGram protocol
>> used.. 
>
>Ah, now you're getting a little bit confused... parnet.device is the
>one portion of the PD ParNet that I didn't write.  Matt Dillon wrote
>that part.  I had already written a version of NET: that worked on
>the serial port with Matt's DNET package, so when parnet.device came
>out, I rewrote NET: to use it.
>
>> Is there a version with working streams proto out? (I'm currently 
>> developing a Remote Shell / News transfer / Mail transfer project
>> over ParNet and a STREAMS proto would be a big help...
>
>Not as far as I know, but you'd have to ask Matt to be sure.
>
>> 	Thank you very much & Party on
>> 		Henning
>
>Sorry I couldn't be of more help...
>
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>

Also, obwohl ich da parnet.device und NET: etwas durcheinandergebracht habe,
sieht das ganze wohl wie folgt aus:

Die Quellen zu dem NET: Filesystem inklusive der Bugs, die der Matthias 
gefixt hat, liegen bei C= unter Verschluss. Ich werde jetzt mal kurzerhand
den Randell anmailen, was er dazu sagt. 

Hoffnung habe ich immernoch auf ein parnet.device mit funktionierendem 
STREAMS Protokoll. Alle Versionen, die ich habe, haben als STREAMS eine 
Kopie des Datagram Protokolls eingebauyt =:( Und damit laesst sich natuerlich
sowas wie NNTP oder SMTP eher schlecht aufbauen ( Ich will nicht noch einen
Layer ueber DATAGRAM legen, nur damit ich reliable Verbindungen bekomme...)
Da mache ich lieber SANA II ===:(

	Party on
		Henning


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