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Subject: Re: a question and a complaint.
From: nason@pa881a.inland.com
Date: 16 Nov 92 10:45:01 CDT
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In article <92312.134427RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>, <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> writes:
> hi there.  i'm a player of middling skill.  recently, i've renewed
> my interest in chess.  one of the things that i'm doing is playing
> a bunch against my computer.  i have a question: should i play against
> the hardest level, no matter how bad it kicks my butt, or should i
> play against the easiest level, until i can consistently beat it,
> and then move on to the next level?  (another question - how consistent
> is "consistent"?)
> 
> now a complaint.  i recently set up the computer's board with kbn v k,
> and let the computer play against itself.  it wasn't able to mate in
> 50 moves.  surely the algorithm wouldn't take up too much space! i
> mean, people can remember it.
> 

I am of poor skill.  I have been told to get the computer at a tactical
disadvantage and play until I can beat it.  Otherwise, you get frustrated and
quit.  I was told to adjust time controls to force the computer to take eg, 1
second per move.  Stuff like that.  Use a lower level.  You have got to get
some positive feedback or your just gonna get PO and not play it.  

I have Sargon V and CM3000 on a 286.  Neither of theses programs can mate me
with KBB v K or KBN v K in 50 moves.  Weak end games I guess.  Conversly, I can
mate then with KBB v K in about 26 moves and KBN v K in about 38 moves.  I know
I can do better but a mate is a mate and I am happy.  

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From: fsmgs@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu (Michael Schmahl [Black-Robe Mage])
Subject: Re: pawn promotion
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:37:01 GMT

Lloyd Lim writes
> There are situations where you might want to promote to a knight.
> Are there any reasons why you'd promote to a bishop or rook?
> The obvious answer is no, but I wanted to check to make sure.
> 
> +++
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> Lim Unlimited                America Online: LimUnltd
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 . . . . . . . .
 k . P . . . . .
 . . . . . . . .
 . . K . . . . .
 . . . . . . . .
 . . . . . . . .
 . . . . . . . .
 . . . . . . . .
c8=Q draws but c8=R wins

 . . . . . . . .
 k . P . . . . .
 . . . N . . . .
 . K . . . . . .
 . . . . . . . .
 . . . . . . . .
 . . . . . . . .
 . . . . . . . .
c8=Q draws, c8=R draws, but c8=B wins (I would prefer Kc5 c8=Q however).



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From: gbastin@x102a.ess.harris.com (bastin gary 60293)
Subject: GnuChess 4.0 for DOS (was Re: GnuChess 4.0 Test Speed)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:50:30 GMT
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Organization: Harris GASD

Is Gnuchess Version 4.0 in a compiled version for DOS available at
an archive site somewhere?  I am using Version 3.1, and enjoy it greatly,
but would like to get the newer version.

Thanks in advance!

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From: dweddin@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: POLISH OPENING INFO WANTED
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:15:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: uoft02.1992Nov18.171523.55
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

i'll keep posting this until hell freezes over....

*SOMEBODY* *SOMETIME* *SOMEPLACE* must have heard of or
played the Polish opening 

   1. P-QN4   or  1. b4

Has there ever been a book on the subject????
Does anybody play it regularly????

please post the title, author, publisher, date, ISBN...etc.

********************** 
miscellaneous comments
**********************

i'm a Grob man myself (and i'm not alone considering the response
i get from my questions on the Spike)...but i want to expand my
horizons to a more "sound" opening like the Polish just in case
i'm in a conservative mood.

now what I want to know besides books on the Polish is this....

"how come if the Polish is considered sound and the Spike is considered
 dubious, then nobody out there plays the Polish????"

my personal theory is that the positions that arise from the Polish
(at least the games I play) always result in some of the most god-awful
boring games. I usually lose them on time after I fall asleep at the
board. my guess is that i am just not playing a good variation. the
opening itself looks like it could be filled with cheaps, viscious
attacks, etc...i just must be playing the wrong lines. so that's why
i want a book on the topic.


the spike, on the other hand, is a no-quarters-asked-none-given attack
where every move for both sides could be your last. lots of fun. must
be the reason for its popularity.

anyways, please post with comments

don wedding
toledo, ohio
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 23 Nov 1992 09:48:55 CST
From: Howard Wachtel <U13054@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Query on particular Anglo-Benoni

In article <18NOV92.01955751.0044@music.mus.polymtl.ca>,
HS99@music.mus.polymtl.ca (S. Guimont) says:
>
>Hi,
>   I try to find some documentations and games about that particular
>anglo-benoni openning :
>
> 1.  c4   c5
> 2.  d4  Nf6
> 3. Nf3  cd4
> 4. Nd4   e6
> 5.  g3  Qb6
>         ===

   The move 5...Qb6 is given as a side line in Paul Janicki's book on
the Two Knights Anglo-Benoni.  Strangely enough, all variants seem to
favor Black!  Janicki's main game is Sosonko-Suba (Informant 39 game
#67) which continued 6 Bg2 Bc5 7 e3 Nc6 8 Nb3 Bb4+ 9 Bd2 Ne5 10 Qc2 d5
11 cd5 Qa6! 12 Bxb4! (a game with 12 Bf1 is also given--see Informant
37 game #42) Nd3+ 13 Kd2 Nxb4 14 Qc3 Nbxd5 15 Qd3 Qxd3+ 16 Kxd3 b6 and
Black has the initiative.  I'd be interested to know if White has any
improvements.  It's surprising that this line is not seen more often.
________________________________________________________________
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U13054@UICVM.CC.UIC.EDU        Phone (312) 975-7970
From: kanner@Apple.COM (Herbert Kanner)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: ICF
Date: 18 Nov 92 08:07:53 GMT
Organization: Development Systems Group, Apple Computer

It's a little late in this thread to ask the question, but what in
blazes is ICF?

-- 
Herb Kanner
Apple Computer, Inc.
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kanner@apple.com
From: rcheng@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Raymond Cheng)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Living Chess
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:17:07 GMT
Reply-To: rcheng@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Raymond Cheng)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.games.chess, jpk2581@hertz.njit.edu (joseph p kisenwether apmt stnt) writes:
*Suppose you're playing a game of living chess where when a peice
*moves on to the same square as an enemy peice, in stead of
*capturing that peice, the two people hold some contest (say
*a fight to the death) to see who holds the square. You lose
*when you're king is beaten in such a contest.
*
*How do your tactics change? How would the opening differ?
*If you could rank your team from best to worst fighter,
*who would play what peice?

I personally would put the best fighter as queen, the second
best as king, and good fighter as kinghts, king pawn, and
queen pawn.

As white, I would play 1. e4  followed by 2. Qf3  and then
use my queen (my best fighter) to race toward the king as
fast as possible.   I would also consider pushing my
center pawns and knights as fast as possible to the black king.

Any comment?  How about playing this game, using dices instead
of real men?
From: Jason.Breitweg@launchpad.unc.edu (Jason Breitweg)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: what is the ics address
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:19:19 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

I haven't played in a while and the old ics address that i have does not
seem to work .  What is the address for ics at this time.  Rpley to the
below address please.

Sincerely,
Jason Breitweg
jbreitwe@polar.bowdoin.edu

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From: uzun@crash.cts.com (Roger Uzun)
Subject: GnuChess 4.0 Test Speed
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:55:52 PST

Can anyone give me an idea on how fast GnuChess 4.0 performs
its test caclulations on a 486 based PC?  Actually the
nodes/sec speed of GnuChess 4.0 on ANY machine would be
appreciated.  On one machine here at crash it gets a 
movelist speed of 200,000 nodes/sec and an eval speed of 
7500 nodes/sec, is this decent?

-Roger
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NET: uzun@crash.cts.com
From: saba@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (John Saba, Univ. of Ariz. Computer Center)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Dementia in chessplayers
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:55:26 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Nntp-Posting-User: saba

In discussing dementia among chessplayers, someone writes, after somewhat
inacurrately relaying a story involving Rubinstein but substituting Mieses:

> I don't have a source for these stories, but I read them someplace
> 10 years ago.

Mieses' mental and chess abilities continued relatively unimpaired until
his death.

Incidentally, Rubinstein's chess deteriorated as his mental problems grew.

-- 
John Saba
saba@ccit.arizona.edu
saba@arizvms
From: mkukkone@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Mika Kukkonen)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: pawn promotion
Date: 21 Nov 92 07:01:07 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In <1992Nov20.212443.23637@watson.ibm.com> strom@Watson.Ibm.Com (Rob Strom) writes:

>In article <1992Nov20.124517.6299@cs.ruu.nl>, xawemmer@cs.ruu.nl (Xander Wemmers) writes:

>|> By the way, there are chess problems in which white has to promote to
>|> a *black* piece (even to a black king) in order to win.
>|> 
>Is this legal??  I've played chess for 40 years and never
>knew you could promote a pawn to an opponent's piece.
>
>If there are two enemy kings on the board, can you checkmate either
>enemy king to win?

I quote FIDE rules:

"Pawn that reaches last rank MUST be IMMEDIATELY as a part of same move
changed to a queen, rook, bishop or knight of SAME colour ..."

So if you are playing white, no black pieces allowed. 

Mika
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From: mginsbur@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Mark Ginsburg)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Weird reaction to Joel Benjamin's F-S II Appraisal.
Date: 22 Nov 92 19:34:57 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

In article <1992Nov22.165641.20922@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger) writes:
>In article <33070@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU>
>mginsbur@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Mark Ginsburg) writes:
>
>> Rather, _Inside Chess_ with its fawning pro-Bobby
>> stance is the party line these days.
>
>Bullshit!  Have you read Chess Life, the New York Times, or any of the
>British chess columns?  The British chess columns are the most neutral
>(except for Short's scathing invective in the Spectator), while the New
>York Times and Chess Life have so far been incredibly anti-Fischer. 
>Chess life has a fawning pro-Garry stance, in my view.
>

Yes, of course, only _Inside Chess_ (or more particularly, yasser) seems
to be fawning Bobby adulators.  The only reason I called it the "party line"
is because it appears very frequently and is omnipresent in various USA
chess clubs.  Let me restate that it repeats its own "party line" very often.

>Smileys where appropriate for the humor-impaired (which probably
>includes most GM's!)  :-)

No, most GMs have a pretty good sense of humor.  

Maybe they just don't get the chance to express themselves in the magazines
that most players get.

Check out Mike Wilder's
most recent installment of "Agony" in _Chow_.  Or GM Hellers's "Religious
Experience" article.  Or, for that matter, any of Wilder's classic
tales of Agony.  For the more practical player, we have GM Rohde's
twisted yarn, "AbNORMal Behavior."  Finally, GM Fedorowicz's "Lucky
Pen" and "Lucky Pen II" have been well received - maybe these GMs aren't
such humorless weirdos after all.

I'll upload some of these to r.g.c. (thanks to all who have mentioned
that they enjoy these excerpts).

-IM Mark Ginsburg
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: cuffell@spot.Colorado.EDU (CUFFELL TIMOTHY MICH)
Subject: Re: Who the hell is Solomon Hecht?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:01:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.012259.22508@midway.uchicago.edu> david_franklin@law.uchicago.edu (David Franklin) writes:
>In article <1992Nov15.210520.17630@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, cuffell@spot.Colorado.EDU (CUFFELL TIMOTHY MICH) writes:
>> 
>> I recently read an old 1930 article called "Telling off the World Champion".  It
>> struck my as the most anal retentive peice of dogmatic bilge I have ever read.========
>> It was meant as a "critique" of Lasker's "Common Sense in Chess".  The article
>> takes Laker's five opening principals and proceed to aimlessly nitpick one of
>> Lasker's example games under headers like "A Dogma Without Precedent in Chess
>> History", "Unspeakable Humiliation for the King's Guard", and "The Black Bandit
>> Knight, a Reckless Law-Breaker".  ...
>> Did the author, Solomon Hecht, have any merit in the chess world?  Was he some
>> expert in another field (a millitary man, I'm thinking) who thought he could
>> lend his expertise to an ignorant chess community?  Or was he some crank who
>> had an in with a publisher?
>> 
>> "Anal retentive peice (sic) of dogmatic bilge"?!  Jeez, talk about being 
>humor-impaired!  Apparently it's unfortunate that Mr. Hecht lived before 
>the advent of smileys :-) :-) :-) with which his piece would otherwise have
>been generously interlarded.
>(Though Lasker's inclusion of "don't pin a N with B-KN5 before your
>opponent has castled" in his Five Commandments is IMHO pretty laughable.)

Really?  If this is the case, humor has changed much in sixty years.  The
article is long and dry enough that any joke qualities it might have had die
and die quickly in the author's belabored attempt at completeness.  
-- 

-Tim Cuffel
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: cdupree@oracle.com (Chuck Dupree)
Subject: Re: Bronstein vs DT II - Fourth Game
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Belmont, Ca.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:02:56 GMT
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              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <BxtF78.IAJ@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair) writes:

   >Move    White                   Black
   >        scratchy (DT II)        David Bronstein
   >----    -----                   -----
   >1       P/e2-e4 (0:04)         P/d7-d5 (2:40)

      Bronstein once took an enormous ( > 20 minutes) amount of time replying
   to Boleslavsky's first move in an important match.  Apparently, he hasn't
   changed.

The story I heard was 55 minutes against Geller, and Bronstein was
White.  He won the game, too.

Of course, these two stories could both be true.  Since Bronstein's my
favorite player of all time, I can easily imagine all sorts of amazing
things he might have done.  Some of them might even have analogs in
"reality." 

--
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From: J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Fischer's Strength
Date: 22 Nov 92 20:44:35 GMT
 <1992Nov18.222450.21928@midway.uchicago.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Nov18.222450.21928@midway.uchicago.edu>
hau4@ellis.uchicago.edu (sven  hauptfeld) writes:

> >  I wonder if pressure
> >may have caused some mistakes??
> 
> What f* pressure? Would YOU feel pressure if you were guaranteed $1,333,333.33
> for just playing until the end?

Actually, Spassky got $1.65 million for losing, while Fischer picked up
$3.35 million for winning.  I'd feel pressure if I knew I could win 1.7
million dollars more than I was guaranteed.  Then again, I'm nowhere
near Fischer's strength, so I wouldn't deserve to play for that much.

--Ted Schuerzinger
email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU
"I should have realized it would be bad vodka when all the label said
was 'Russian Vodka'."
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: hau4@ellis.uchicago.edu (sven  hauptfeld)
Subject: Re: Fischer-Polgar NOT (yet)
Reply-To: hau4@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:40:51 GMT

In article <17598@mindlink.bc.ca> Peter_Stockhausen@mindlink.bc.ca (Peter Stockhausen) writes:
>
>Mr.Hauptfelds's remark is disgraceful.
>Peter
>
If you lack understanding, at least don't be lazy! Read the followups first
and don't restart ancient threads!

	Sven

Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: mantiat@dmapub.dma.org (Tony Mantia)
Subject: Re: POLISH OPENING INFO WANTED
Organization: Dayton Microcomputer Association: Dayton, Ohio
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:49:13 GMT

There are three books that I have on the Polish, 1. P-QN4 by Soltis published
by Chess Digest in 1972, Solkolsky Opening by M. Thomas & A.J. Gillam 
published by The Chess Player Ltd. in 1981, and in Russian Debuiot 1. b2-b4, by
Sokolsky who has played and advocated this opening for years, this book was also available in German, I thought I had a copy in German but couldn't find it but
I know it exists.
     

  ZZ
From: tcmaint@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (-Broadband Network Maintenance)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: PGN: Fischer/Spassky II (all 30 games)
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:29:07 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.


Netters,

Being out of town I missed 100 + email messages about the Spassky-Fischer 2 
match. Please someone post any conclusions about this match. I was following
the "points" earned/lost, and would care to see the final ratings of both 
players.

Also, many thanks for posting the match score, all 30 games.

-Bruce
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun)
Subject: Re: Hand-held Chess computers
Keywords: chess, computers, portable
Organization: City University, London
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 16:13:31 GMT

In article <Bxzv9E.ACG@news.cso.uiuc.edu> witzany@sparc1.isgs.uiuc.edu writes:
>	According to the latest r.g.c FAQ, the two portable chess computers to
>consider are the Novag Super VIP and the Mephisto Marco Polo.  As I recall,
>folks were discussing the Fidelity Travelmaster a while back; the consensus
>seemed to be that since the pegs on the bottoms of the pieces tended to
>break off, and the ribbon cables sometimes frayed, it was better to skip
>the Travelmaster altogether.
>	I ran across what looks to be a newer model the other day.  The 
>ribbon cables are still there, but the board now uses magnetic pieces, which
>gets rid of at least one of the earlier problems.  Does anyone know if the
>new version of the Travelmaster is on a par with the other two machines
>now, or if it still lags behind them for some reason (playing strength,
>same old cable problem, whatever)?  Incidentally, it was priced at $99.

I have stopped using my hand-held chess computer now that I have
Psion Chess on my pocket computer - Psion Series 3. It plays a
good game against me (an amateur).


--
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From: J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Exploding the Myth:  GM Benjamin speaks on F-S II (_Chow_ 
 upload)
Date: 22 Nov 92 03:14:41 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
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In article <33049@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU>
mginsbur@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Mark Ginsburg) writes:

> The other major are of Fischer's dementia is his refusal to
> accept the legitimacy of anything that has happened in the chess
> world in the last tenety years.

I wouldn't be so quick to accuse Fischer of dementia.  He's still
capable of playing chess at a Grandmaster level.  I don't think one
could play chess that well with dementia.

--Ted Schuerzinger
email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU
"I should have realized it would be bad vodka when all the label said
was 'Russian Vodka'."
From: cxxh@cco.caltech.edu (Chris H. Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Should women's tournaments exist?
Date: 20 Nov 1992 01:10:06 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

singh@julius.cs.uiuc.edu (Rajendra Singh) writes:

>After seeing the joke that caused offense I can add:
>  You missed the point.  It seemed to be pretty obvious yet
>  you managed to miss it, and are apparently too stubborn to
>  see how.  The joke actually agrees with idea that sexism is
>  silly.

No, I did not miss the point. Let's just say that we disagree
on what we consider humorous.

> -raj

Chris Hall
From: lim@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Lloyd Lim)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: pawn promotion
Date: 20 Nov 92 02:17:07 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of California, Davis

There are situations where you might want to promote to a knight.
Are there any reasons why you'd promote to a bishop or rook?
The obvious answer is no, but I wanted to check to make sure.

+++
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