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Newsgroups: comp.emacs,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Building emacs under Solaris (SunOS 5.0)
From: alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com (Alan Braggins)
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:44:44 GMT
Organization: Shape Data (Division of EDS), Cambridge UK

Has anyone got emacs running under SunOS 5.0?
(A version of make which works would be a good starting point...)
Thanks, AlanB
--
Alan Braggins, Shape Data (A Division of EDS Ltd), Cambridge, UK +44-223-316673
   "Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced."
 "My employer does not necessarily share my views - but I'm working on it."
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: schreib@fzi.de (Hartmut Schreiber)
Subject: How do I send file~ to the wastebasket directory?
Followup-To: comp.emacs
Keywords: file~
Reply-To: schreiber@fzi.de
Organization: Forschungszentrum Informatik (FZI), Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:28:48 GMT

Hello netters,

the FAQ doesn't contain the answer to my questions although they might be
simple:

When my emacs saves a "file", it also generates a kind of backup file
"file~". Normally they are useless to me, but sometimes I need them
very much. So here are my questions:

Is there a way to tell emacs, to create all ~-files in a special 
directory "wastebasket", which I can delete from time to time?

Can I tell emacs to maintain more than two versions of a file, like
VMS does?

--
Hartmut (schreiber@fzi.de)

Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: mmelling@Trirex.com(Michael Mellinger)
Subject: info.el
Organization: Trirex Systems Inc.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:46:33 GMT

Could someone e-mail me the lastest version of info.el.  The one which  
supports multiple info directories?  Dave Gillispie (sp?? The guy who  
wrote Calc) did some work on it.  I don't have ftp access.

-Mike
mmelling@Trirex.com
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: nickel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Juergen Nickelsen)
Subject: Re: How to save a macro?
Reply-To: nickel@cs.tu-berlin.de
Organization: STONE Project, Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 15:09:47 GMT

I got a "user unknown" when sending a mail reply to this address:

While talking to netmail.austin.ibm.com:
>>> RCPT To:<burky@austin.ibm.com>
<<< 550 <burky@austin.ibm.com>... User unknown: No such file or directory
550 <burky@austin.ibm.com>... User unknown

, so I'm following up, sorry.

(BTW, this isn't the first time that happened to me with a
"user@austin.ibm.com" address, does anyone know what's wrong with
these addresses?)


From: burky@austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: comp.emacs

> If a keyboard macro is made with C-x C-( ... C-x C-), can it be saved in
> some way so that it will be defined when emacs starts up again?

Yes. Give the macro a name (with M-x name-last-kbd-macro RET), then
edit your .emacs file, type M-x insert-kbd-macro RET and the name of
the macro. This inserts an "fset" form which binds the keyboard macro
to a function name.

You can then bind it to a key permanantly with (assuming
the name of the macro is "my-own-kdb-macro", and the key you want to
bind it to is "C-c m")

	(global-set-key "\C-cm" 'my-own-kdb-macro)

> Alternatively, Is it possible to define a macro for several keystrokes in 
> your .emacs file?

At the place in the "global-set-key" form where "'my-own-kdb-macro"
stands in the example above, you can put a string with the characters
you want to be "typed" in the keyboard macro. You have to insert
control and meta characters with quoted-insert (usually bound to C-q),
of course.

However, the better approach for permanently needed macros is to write
a Lisp function and bind that to a key -- this is far more flexible
and powerful than a keyboard macro can be. If you often need custom
functions, you really should consider diving into Emacs Lisp (if you
haven't done that yet).

--
Juergen Nickelsen
From: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy))
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Building Emacs on a NeXT
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:59:56 GMT
Organization: Department of Physics, UC Irvine, CA 92717-4575, USA
In-reply-to: scotty@piranha.cs.uoguelph.ca's message of Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:28:46 GMT

The NeXT comes with a built-in emacs, not quite v. 18.58.
The sources are available on the NeXT archives. I also assume 
that a new improved emacs will come with NeXTStep 3.0, so why not wait
a few weeks?
--
Hardy 
-----
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e-mail: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (preferred) or MMAYER@UCI.BITNET
From: jackr@dblues.wpd.sgi.com (John "Jack" Repenning)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Question: How to use Emacs to access root-owned files
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:48:48 GMT
	<BOB.92Aug12120143@volitans.MorningStar.Com>
	<RG.92Aug12201702@nymph.msel.unh.edu>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <RG.92Aug12201702@nymph.msel.unh.edu> rg@msel.unh.edu (Roger Gonzalez) writes:

   KLUDGE! KLUDGE! KLUDGE! KLUDGE! KLUDGE! KLUDGE! KLUDGE! KLUDGE! KLUDGE!
   ...
   Its much less kludgey if you just add a built-in command to Emacs
   called "su-command", that prompts for a password, and does a
   setuid.  Of course, this requires that you make Emacs suid root,
   which is probably a Bad Thing.

It also makes the entire Emacs have root capabilities (and create
things owned by root), which is generally undesirable.  Something
adventurous might be done with write-file-hooks and similar....



Jack Repenning			9U-530	     jackr@wpd.sgi.com
Silicon Graphics, Inc.		            Off:(415) 390-3027
Enabling Systems Technology Center	    Fax:(415) 969-2314
From: harsha@ksr.com (Paul Harsha)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: BAD, bad, bad TABS in emacs
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:03:08 EDT

kurt@dna.lth.se (Kurt Swanson) writes:

>I would like emacs to rid my life of control-i's.  Does anyone know of
>any emacs means to:

>a: redefine the tab key such that it inserts the right number of
>   spaces, i.e. 1-8 depending on the tab stops and current cursor
>   column

(setq indent-tabs-mode nil) will change it for the current buffer

(setq-default indent-tabs-mode nil) will change it for all buffers which don't
already have it defined

>b: search a whole buffer, replacing control-i's with the same scheme
>   of spaces.

M-x untabify

The gnuemacs manual discusses and the info file discuss both of these in
detail.

-Paul
--
   Paul Harsha (harsha@ksr.com)               Kendall Square Research Corp.
From: scm@aiware.in-berlin.de (Harald Schmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: HELP: searching for german keyboard driver
Summary: emacs
Keywords: driver
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:27:58 GMT
Organization: AIware

Hallihallo,

as the subject explains it, I need a german keyboard driver (better
table). I am unable to use the backslash and braces of my keyboard.
So is somebody out there who could send me a table?

Many thanks in advance,

	Harald
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Voice:		Berlin - 815 59 75
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Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: Jamie Zawinski <jwz@lucid.com>
Subject: Re: Question: How to use Emacs to access root-owned files
Organization: Lucid, Inc., Menlo Park, CA
	<BOB.92Aug12120143@volitans.MorningStar.Com>
	<HARDY.92Aug12175216@golem.ps.uci.edu>
X-Windows: Let it get in YOUR way.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 20:10:05 GMT

In article <HARDY.92Aug12175216@golem.ps.uci.edu> hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy)) wrote:
> 
> I don't know how we lived before Andy Norman made ange-ftp available ...

We had Lisp Machines.

	-- Jamie
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: ejh@khonshu.colorado.edu (Edward J. Hartnett)
Subject: trouble with the info system and texinfo
Organization: Cooperative Institute for Research in the Environmental Sciences
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:02:52 GMT

I am so confused!!! I got the package gnus, and am trying to get it
working, and so far none of the responses that I have received have
contained the entire solution, they all leave something out! Thanks to
everyone who replied to my last request for help, but I have never
installed an emacs package on my system before, and I need more detail
for beginners. Telling me to look at info is not helpful, it's like
trying to drink the ocean! There's so much there, but it seems like
you can't understand any of it until you've read all of it. Several
people suggested I contact my system administrator, but that's me!
None of the gurus here are into GNU emacs (hard to understand, but
true!), so I'm on my own.

OK, down to brass tacks. I'm going to attack this problem one step at
a time. Right now, I need to know some stuff about the texinfo system.
I unpacked the gnus files OK, and moved the info file to the right
directory, opened it and ran the command texinfo-format-buffer, which
seemed to work OK, and told me to save the results after a bunch of
processing, which I did. Then I ended up with some kind of tag table
in my buffer, but what good does that do me? What I want to know is
this:

1 - what steps must I follow to get this new info file to be
accessable from the info buffer that comes up when I invoke help (C-h)
and select i for info? Is this the whole point of this excersize? Or
is there another way I'm supposed to access the gnus info file?

2 - what steps need I follow to turn this into a printed manual?

Thanks for the help!

			Ed Hartnett

PS - please, no more messages like: you don't want a printed manual
anyway. I got a bunch of these when I was trying to print the emacs
manual. I DO want a printed manual. For one thing it's easier to get
people here to try emacs if I can give them printed documentation. For
another, I just like them better than on-line help.
-- 
Edward Hartnett			ejh@khonshu.colorado.edu
From: kgallagh@digi.lonestar.org (Kevin Gallagher)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Why is C-@ disabled? Help
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:47:26 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

In article <1992Aug14.144632.135776@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> ky04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (KUN YU) writes:
>The SET-MARK command in EMACS on my machine (RISC 6000), C-@ or C-SPC, 
>is diabled, and has no effect. I guess that is caused by the 
>.emacs file which I am enclosing below. 
> [file deleted]

Your .emacs file has nothing in it that would break the binding of
set-mark-command.

Not all keyboards are built the same.  Many simply generate a SPC character
when C-SPC is pressed.  And some do not generate anything when C-@ is pressed.

To test your keyboard, try the following.  Press the following keys:

        SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC C-SPC C-h l

The C-h l key sequence at the end brings up the view-lossage command which
displays the last 100 keystrokes.  The six space characters are used just for
reference.  If C-SPC generates a C-@ character, the last 9 characters in the
view-lossage display will look like:

        SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC C-@ C-h l

Then try the same by pressing C-@ and looking at it in view-lossage.  You may
be surprised.

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From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: small question about going into directories with find-file
Date: 21 Aug 1992 21:36:45 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <1992Aug21.153958.3937@colorado.edu> ejh@khonshu.colorado.edu (Edward J. Hartnett) writes:
>This is somethng I've been curious about for some time. If I do a
>C-x C-f (find file) right after I start emacs, I get Find File: ~/
>in the minibuffer, and if I hit return, I get into dired with my
>home directory listed. If I then open a file in that directory,
>then do a C-x C-f again, I get the same Find File: ~/ in the
>minibuffer, but if I hit return, I don't go back into dired, I get
>nowhere. I have to edit the minibuffer and remove the / before it
>will let me open that directory in dired again. 

Despite what the prompt implies, the default that's used when you don't
type anything (actually, if your response is identical to the initial
value) is the current buffer's pathname.

When you use find-file right after starting Emacs, the current buffer
doesn't have a pathname, so your response is used as is.  But when you're
in a buffer with a file it defaults to the buffer pathname.

This behavior is implemented in the C routine that implements the
read-file-name function.  It occurs whenever the third argument (the
default value) is nil, as it is when it's called from call-interactively's
processing of the interactive "F" argument type.  To fix it from Lisp you
can change find-file so that it calls read-file-name explicitly to get its
argument, and passes an explicit third argument of the current directory.
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: wittesa@reks.uia.ac.be (Willy Wittesaele)
Subject: FIXEMACS , where can I find it ?
Organization: U.I.A.
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 20:05:06 GMT

I'm searching the program called "FIXEMACS". it can be used for
patching the uemacs 3.11 sources. Where can I find it (ftp - site ?)

Willy
wittesa@reks.uia.ac.be

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From: burky@austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: ??? Standard output into a buffer
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:12:17 GMT
Organization: IBM Austin
Originator: burky@weburky.austin.ibm.com



I'm trying to find a way to execute a program from within my emacs buffer
such that the standard output of that program is directed to the insertion
point in my buffer.

The best I've come up with so far is to open a shell buffer, run the program,
and copy/paste the results.

I also tried shell-command macro, but it opened a shell-command-output buffer and
put the output there. 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

............................
Bill Burky
burky@dritter.austin.ibm.com
-- 
...........................
Bill Burky
burky@dritter.austin.ibm.com
From: olstad@kl.msc.edu (Ken Olstad)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: ??? Standard output into a buffer
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:03:58 GMT
	<SCOTTH.92Aug20161254@hoshi.corp.sgi.com>
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Inc.

>>>>> On Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:12:54 GMT, scotth@hoshi.corp.sgi.com (Scott Henry) said:

 Scott> C-u M-! <command>

 Scott> will insert the output of <command> into the current buffer at mark.
 Scott> See the docs for "shell-command".

Just to clarify: The output will begin at point, of course, and mark
will be at the end of the output.

Ken
Newsgroups: comp.emacs,gnu.emacs.help
From: ceder@lysator.liu.se (Per Cederqvist)
Subject: Prefix in elisp packages
Summary: Should we use prefix: instead of prefix- in elisp programs?
Keywords: Prefix, colon
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:00:44 GMT

In Common Lisp you reference a symbol in a package by saying
package:symbol.  The normal convention in Emacs Lisp is to use
package-symbol instead.

I have seen that Epoch uses the Common Lisp convention, and I
like it.  It makes the names more readable, in my opinion.

Common Lisp also uses package::symbol for internal symbols
(similar to static functions in C).  Even if Emacs Lisp doesn't
have any package mechanism that convention makes it easy to see
which functions in a package that are intended for general use.

Is there any reason not to adopt the Common Lisp convention in
new packages?


Disclaimer: I don't know the origin of the : convention.

--
Per Cederqvist, Lysator Academic Computer Assoc., Univ. of Linkoping, Sweden
Email: ceder@lysator.liu.se	
Phone: +46 13 26 09 17		 "CVS - Check It Out!"
From: scotth@hoshi.corp.sgi.com (Scott Henry)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Emacs on the SGI Indigo
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:48:16 GMT
	<morten.714127217@oase>
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc, Mountain View, CA


>>>>> In article <morten.714127217@oase>, morten@oase.kemi.aau.dk (Morten Kjeldgaard) writes:

morten> In <SIMON.92Aug13111112@liasg1.epfl.ch> simon@lia.di.epfl.ch (Simon Leinen) writes:

>Sure, GNU Emacs 18.58 contains support for IRIX 4.0 and compiles out
>of the box (as they say).  Use the "s-irix4-0.h" and "m-iris4d.h"
>files in src/config.h.  The only problem is that stripping the binary
>causes it to core dump - I include (without permission) a patch for
>this from a friendly person at SGI.

This "friendly person at SGI" (me, I guess) has also made a compressed
tar file of the pre-compiled binaries available for anonymous FTP from
sgigate.sgi.com in the directory ~ftp/net-services/gnu-emacs. Note
that normal disclaimers of support apply...

morten> I too, have successfully installed GNU emacs on the Indigo; I
morten> haven't encountered the above problem, because I never
morten> stripped the binary. I have another problem, however, that I
morten> think there is a simple solution to which I haven't found:
morten> When starting emacs from the console, there is no problem, the
morten> X server pops up a window. When starting from a remote
morten> terminal, however, one has to remember the -nw switch. This
morten> everybody *ALWAYS* forgets. On an ESV system we have, emacs
morten> figures out for itself to do the appropriate thing. How does
morten> one set this up??

If the environment variable DISPLAY is defined, emacs will attempt to
start up an X window. I have code in my ~/.cshrc to detect that I am
coming in from a non-network connection, and `unsetenv DISPLAY`. Goes
something like this:

        switch (`tty`)
            case ttyf*)
                # this is for locally attached modems
                set dialup
                breaksw
            default)
                breaksw
        endsw
        if ( $REMOTEHOST =~ *dialback* ) set dialup
        if ( $REMOTEHOST =~ *dialupserver* ) set dialup
        if ( $?dialup ) then
            unsetenv DISPLAY
            # other stuff only done in non-window mode
        else
            # stuff done only in window mode
        endif

=-=-=
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 Scott Henry <scotth@sgi.com> / Traveller on Dragon Wings
 Networking Services,        / Help! My disclaimer is missing!
 Silicon Graphics, Inc      / GIGO *really* means: Garbage in, Gospel Out
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: sflinter@cs.tcd.ie (Stephen Flinter)
Subject: DEMACS speed
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin (Computer Science)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:20:44 GMT

I have recently installed DEMACS on my PC at home.  One
thing I find is that it runs _extremely_ slow. It appears to
be constantly accessing the disk.  Is there anything I can
do?

Machine specs:
486/33
4MB RAM
~90MB 17ms Hard disk
I have allocated 2048 bytes of memory to DEMACS.

Thanks,

Steve


-- 
//
//      Stephen Flinter                          sflinter@cs.tcd.ie
//      AI Lab, Computer Science
//      Trinity College Dublin
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: schnepp@nodecg.ncc.telecomwa.oz.au (Tom Schnepple)
Subject: Automatic VIEW mode for READONLY files?
Organization: Network Computer Centre
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 02:15:26 GMT

Automatic VIEW mode for READONLY files?

Is there a way in MicroEmacs to automatically activate VIEW mode when
a readonly file is readin (at startup as well as later on)?
I would like to implement this both on MSDOS (Readonly attribute=set) and
under UNIX (read permission, but no write permission).


     _--_|\    Tom Schnepple  (schnepp@telecomwa.oz.au) 
    /      \   Perth, Western Australia
--> *_.--._/ 
          v 
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: dgruner@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Daniel Gruner)
Subject: Is there a BRIEF emulator for emacs?
Keywords: BRIEF, emacs
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:49:01 GMT


Does anybody out there have, or know of, an emacs environment that 
emulates BRIEF (the PC programmers' editor)?  I have a bunch of users
that are migrating to unix workstations from PC's and they would REALLY
like to be able to use BRIEF.   Thanks for your help.
Daniel.
-- 
Daniel Gruner
University of Toronto, Department of Chemistry
E-mail: dgruner@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca
Tel: (416) 978-8689                  Fax: (416) 978-8775
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: mircos@OSGO.KS.HE.Schule.DE (Mirco Stange)
Subject: MicroEMACS under GUI - what&where?
Organization: Oberstufengymnasium (College) Kassel, Germany
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 08:59:17 GMT


	I have been using a version of MicroEMACS under MS-DOS and began
	to like its efficient working.
	
	Now I heard of other versions of MicroEMACS for
	window-orientated enviroments (MS Windows, XWindows, ...). Up to
	now I haven't discovered yet which versions do exist or where to
	get them. 

	Is there anyone who can give an overview (WHAT), as
	well as the points I would have to address (WHERE)?

	Thank you for answering!

		Mirco Stange
From: khera@cs.duke.edu (Vivek Khera)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Question: How to use Emacs to access root-owned files
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:43:39 GMT
	<BOB.92Aug12120143@volitans.MorningStar.Com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Duke University CS Dept., Durham, NC
In-reply-to: bob@MorningStar.Com's message of 12 Aug 92 16:01:49 GMT
X-Md4-Signature: 8ae67034e90c374f531d564f57b4459d

In article <BOB.92Aug12120143@volitans.MorningStar.Com> bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield) writes:

   In article <BETSYS.92Aug10171110@ra.cs.umb.edu> betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) writes:

      I need a bit of code that prompts me for the root passwd and then
      lets me read and write as root. (obviously, it mustn't know the
      passwd!)

   Get ftp.cis.ohio-state.edu:pub/gnu/emacs/elisp-archive/packages/ange-ftp.tar.Z.

   I say ^X^F/user@hostname:/path/to/file, and ange-ftp prompts me for
   that user's password on that host.  If "user" is "root", you'll be
   editing a file as root on that host.  If "hostname" is "localhost",
   you'll have an Emacs buffer that's root on the same machine as the
   Emacs is running on.  When you ^X^S (or whatever), ange-ftp does
   whatever's necessary to write the file back appropriately via FTP.

This, of course, assumes that ftp for root is not disabled.  This
trick will not work for, for example, in a set up like ours.
--
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Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield)
Subject: mail and news within Demacs
Organization: Morning Star Technologies
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 05:34:53 GMT

Can one send and receive mail within Demacs, using rmail or VM or
something similar?  How about news reading and posting with GNUS,
preferably to a local spool but perhaps over NNTP?  What other
software is necessary to make the link, using either UUCP or TCP/IP?
What PPP or SLIP layers will work underneath?
From: vedati@watoga.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu (Krishna Vedati)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: HELP RUNNING emacs on Z-29
Keywords: z-29
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:28:28 GMT

Hi
I use a z-29 terminal type terminal at home. but emacs does't recognize
this terminal typpe. is there a way i can use emacs on this terminals.

I think z-29 is not vt100 compatible.

any help

please email me to vedati@cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu

thanks a lot
vedati
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