From: elliott@veronica.cs.wisc.edu (James Elliott)
Subject: System 7.1 Charges; further thoughts
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:11:23 GMT

Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

>As Jeff Sullivan said
>in his Bottom Line, "talk with your pocketbook.  If Apple sees a nose-
>dive in sales because it is not giving System Software away, it will
>rethink things."

My big concern is that the full repercussions of the decision to start
charging for Macintosh system software may not manifest themselves for
years after such a decision is made.

If a substantially smaller fraction of people start keeping up with
current versions of the operating system (and the inconvenience factor
involved in charging even a small amount for upgrades is definitely a
major issue), then there will be that much less incentive for software
companies to take advantage of new features available in the Macintosh
operating system.

In effect, the System is the lowest common denominator that most
people have on their machines, and if you reduce the degree to which
people upgrade, then the System becomes correspondingly less powerful,
and the Macintosh becomes less of an attractive platform.

Time and again the computer industry has learned that with very few
exceptions, there is no money to be made in selling operating systems
themselves. The exceptions (Microsoft comes to mind) have not been
companies that are trying to sell their own hardware. For hardware
manufacturers, the operating systems should be thought of as a major
part of the marketing for the hardware. Apple doesn't have enough
market share to start competing with themselves by charging people for
what might tempt them to purchase the hardware itself.

If, on the other hand, Apple plans to go out of the hardware business
and start trying to sell their O/S to people on all platforms, this
move could make sense; they could levy a tax on recent Macintosh
purchasers to fund their move away from relying on us at all. That
wouldn't make us enjoy it, of course.

So even if Apple doesn't suffer immediate, terrifying drops in sales
after starting to charge for System 7.1, I believe such a move would
add a significant number of nails to the coffin of the Macintosh as a
viable and exciting computing environment over the next decade.

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 21:24:43 CDT
From: lennk@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Lenn Katzer)
Subject: no subject (file transmission)

To:INFO-MAC@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.Edu.
From:lennk@matt.ksu.ksu.edu.
Subject:FontMonger and conversion.

Has anyone experienced difficulties when using FontMonger* and converting type
1 to tt?  Since I have a quickdraw laser printer the tt fonts seem to output
sharper and I also don't have to maintain bit maps in the system, so I have
converted some of the type 1 fonts for my use.  The problem is that apparently
some type 1 fonts cannot be read by FontMonge*.  The window appears stating
reading font but shortly the window closes as if the font contained nothing.
Is anyone familiar with this problem?

Ares told me to trash the FontMonger * system preference file as this was
causing some problems for users.  I have done this to no avail.

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 8:55:29 MET
From: bach@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Michael Bach)
Subject: NTR randomly produces empty pages before print jobs (Q)

Dear colleagues:
Since the first day we acquired an LaserWriter NTR, we have enjoyed
the speed but also suffered from the "empty pages problem" (EPP):
At the beginning of a print job, the NTR spills out one, sometimes
two empty pages, then it proceeds normally. This is not a trivial
problem, since it completely mangles double sided printing.
Details:
- The "EPP" occurs only in about 50% of all print jobs
- We mostly use Word, but it also happens with e.g. Canvas
- It happens regardless which computer sends the print job
- All computers run 7.01 with the latest tune-up, connected by PhoneNet
- EPP occurs also with the latest 7.1.2 driver (included in System 7.1)
- EPP never occurs with any of the many NT printers or our trusty old
  LaserWriter+
- The LC sitting next to the NTR was isolated from the net, still EPP.
- The motherboard of the NTR was exchanged by our friendly dealer,
  no dice
- The entire NTR was swapped with a demo NTR from our friendly dealer,
  we still have EPP, they claim they don't have it with our printer
- We exchanged printers between two rooms. The EPP went with the NTR
I would very much appreciate any help. This problem takes an
inordinate amount of my time (e.g., writing this distress call :-)).

To add my 2 Pfennig to the 7.1 discussion, I found the following
advantages in System 7.1:
- It uses about 200k less memory, which is very nice on my 4MB PB 100.
- It allows you to change the formatting of numbers (e.g. "." or ","
as decimal point) on the fly, that is, without reboot. This is really
important for us in Germany, because data generated on DOS machines or
data produced by compilers like Think Pascal normally have US formatting.
This is a real hassle when importing into Excel or StatView, which
localize their formatting. This reminds me of a an -- by now officially
acknowledged -- bug in StatView 4 (which otherwise is a big improvement
but more difficult to learn):
International number formatting works only partially in StatView 4.0

Enough of my ramblings. Thanks for your attention, greetings, Michael.

--
Dr. Michael Bach, Dept. of Ophthalmogy,
University of Freiburg, D-7800 Freiburg, Germany
(049)(761)270-4060 <bach@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:52 EST
From: PC Coordinator <LFINKELSTEIN@vax.clarku.edu>
Subject: PB100 battery questions

Does anyone know how the PB100 battery charges?

I can't seem to get mine beyond 70% full.  It seems like the thing will only
charge when it is on.  Not when it is shutdown and not when it is asleep.

If that is the case, then what is a good screen saver for the PB?  I haven't
been using one, because after a few minutes of inactivity it just goes to
sleep, but if it has to stay on to charge, then I will need something to save
its screen.

Also, does anyonknow about CPU (Connectix Powerbook Utilities).  (I think)
What does it do?  Is it any good?

Thanks.

					Loren Finkelstein
					LFINKELSTEIN@VAX.CLARKU.EDU

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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 13:40:37 EDT
From: Clinton Collins <BEBRF14%NERVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Piracy

Wade Williams says in part:
I doubt you could find one user in a thousand that hasn't pirated
software
at some point in their lives.  I'll admit it - in my days as a student I

did.  However, I don't do it now and even regisiter any shareware that I

use.

I would just like to say that I completely agree with him.  I am always
amazed that academics, who should know the value of intellectual
property better than anyone else, pirate software to the extent I
have witnessed.  I *still* feel bad when I say no and I also feel
that I am looked upon as having a "holier than thou" attitude.  I firmly
believe that the issue of using hardware "dongles" and other devices
to stop software piracy causes so much controversy because deep down
people *know* that this would work.  All it would take is for the
major computer manufacturers, software companies, and the government
to sit down and hash out an anti-piracy hardware standard. This
would effectively stop the widespread piracy which currently exists.

Clinton Collins, bebrf14@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu

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Date: 08 Oct 1992 15:23:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: usr4818a@tso.uc.EDU (Robert E. Winston)
Subject: PLW LS 7.2 (C)

There's been some discussion on the comp.sys.mac.* Usenet groups and on
the mailing list MAC-L about the availability, or even the existence, of a
version 7.2 driver for the Personal LaserWriter LS.

The LS driver has a strange and convoluted history.

The first driver, strangely enough, was 1.0. I got that with the printer
in March 1991.

Version 7.0 came with System 7.0, but seems to be the same as the v.1.0
driver except for the change in version number.

Just about a year ago Apple sold an LS update kit for $18. That 4 disk
*package* was called Version 1.2. It included the complete LaserWriter
fonts in TrueType format and a new driver, v.7.1.  LS driver 7.1 was a
significant performance upgrade.

The file "dts/mac/sys.soft/imaging/personal-lw-ls-7-1.hqx" at apple.com is
the "Install" disk from that set. At the top of the driver's Get Info
window it says "Personal LW LS Software v1.2.
Near the bottom, just above the comments window, it says "Version: 7.1".

I heard about a new driver several months ago and tried to track it down
without success. About a month ago I found it on an AMUG CD. That's the
one that goes by the name "BBS in a Box". They have an Apple software
licence.

The disk image I downloaded is a replacement for the "Install" disk and
contains the driver, Installer and Script, and a few other files. The
driver's Get Info box says, at the  top, "Personal LW LS Software v 1.3"
and at the bottom it says "Version: 7.2". The creation date is Fri. Mar 6,
1992. New LS's are shipping with the v.1.3 software, including the v.7.2
driver.

The primary improvement in this driver is that it can print complex pages
without boosting the LS's RAM from 512K to 1mb. It also allows quarter
inch margins on the sides and half inch, top & bottom, on legal size
paper. Margins used to be one inch all around on legal without the RAM
upgrade. Apple has since discontinued the LS RAM upgrade kit.

This morning I received a note from Apple saying that the 7.2 LS driver is
considered to be part of System 7.1 and that it might be posted to
ftp.apple.com after System 7.1's introduction.

In discussions with the folks on the net, they invariably say that their
dealers know nothing about this driver upgrade and some dealers even
insist that there is no such beast.

So if you need the new driver (which is now 7 months old) you can:

 1) Buy a new LS
 2) Buy System 7.1 on or after Oct.19
 3) Wait for it to appear (maybe) on ftp.apple.com
 4) Try to find a BBS that has the "BBS in a Box" CD on line.

________
Robert E. Winston      usr4818a@tso.uc.edu

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 05:44:42 PDT
From: f_rushingrg@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Subject: PowerBook Solutions Guide

Greetings From Nacogdoches--

Thanks to all who responded top my series of questions about PowerBook
modems and other items.

To summarize the responces about the modems, all who replied named the
Global Village series as the one they used or would choose.

In responce to my question about sources for other various items,  Tom
Mahon ,Apple Computer Student Rep at Kent State told me of  "The Apple
PowerBook Guide".  This publication gives brief descriptions and sources
for many accessories.  Thanks Tom !

And--guess what-- I was looking for other info on printers and ran across a
text version of the PowerBook guide in the info-mac archives !
info-mac/reports/powerbook-solutions-guide.hqx  (about 84k=100+pages).

Again-- thanks  to all--

Ron Rushing             Education Media Center          S.F.A University

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 13:10:57 PDT
From: therese@usc.edu (Steve & Terri Humphrey)
Subject: Printers with s/w selectable paper trays

A client needs a postscript printer for a small appletalk network.
Requirements are that it:

	* Easily print 5000 pages / mo.
	* Be fairly fast.
	* and most importantly, that each user can select from one of two
	  paper trays *in software* for each document.

Please e-mail your experiences and recommendations and I'll summarize to
the digest.

Thanks,

Stephen & Therese Humphrey                      therese@usc.edu

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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 02:15:45 EDT
From: "Charles A. Patrick" <PATCHAS@VM.NRC.CA>
Subject: PrintMonitor enhancers?

PrintMonitor is lamentable!

We are a small AppleTalk network of 3 SE/30's, 1 Classic II, and a LaserWriter
IIf. On occasion each of us uses the manual feeder to print on pre-printed
letterhead paper. We all try to use PrintMonitor to try and figure out how our
jobs are stacked, but have never been able to figure out who is going through
when and in what sequence. Consequently, more frequently than not the wrong
item gets printed on the letterhead sheet. Is there something better out
there?
 I have not been able to identify anything in the archives. However, I do
a reference, some time ago, to something on or just over the horizon that
would allow us to put PrintMonitor out of its misery. I would really, really
appreciate any and all assistance.

Thank you, all! and Cheers.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 07:44:11 PDT
From: Paul Brians <BRIANS@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU>
Subject: QuickTime doesn't like virtual memory

We have been trying to play a huge (17-meg) QuickTime movie we created
in Adobe Premiere on various Macs.  It played fine on a IIsi, on a IIci,
on a Quadra, but sometimes broke up on two other IIcis, played fine on
one FX, but not on another.  The sound would drop out and certain
points, or the pictures would become seriously out of synch.  Careful
detective work by one of our staff determined that the variable was
virtual memory.  Any machine which had it turned on caused problems.
VM is so much slower than real RAM that it caused paging which broke
up the movie.  If you are having trouble like this, try turning VM
off and see whether it goes away.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 11:29:52 -0500
From: andy@msc.edu (Andrew Hollenbeck)
Subject: RAM prices

I am interested in upgrading my SE/30 from 4Meg to 8Meg.  I am
interested in the best prices for 1Meg SIMMS.

Thanks for any recommendation that you can supply.
-- Andy

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 08:55:26 EDT
From: brennan@hal.hahnemann.edu
Subject: Resetting the (print) Chooser options.

      A bit ago, I asked if anyone knew of something that would
   reset the Chooser's print options after a certain amount of
   time.  Unfortunately, I asked two (or more) questions in the
   same message and this one wasn't really answered or understood.

      The problem is that User A *knows* his resume needs to be
   formatted for the laser printer and sets the Chooser to the
   LaserWriter.  User A finishs, heads to the laser station, prints
   and feels like he's accomplished something.  :^)

      User B sits down, types in a quick letter to Mom.  Prints -
   but isn't connected to a laser printer.  After that little bit of
   confusion, we reset to ImageWriter.  Prints - and Mom would not
   be proud.  Letter home is as ugly as sin.

      Ideally - something that would permit conversion between the
   two printer formats *seamlessly* - so that the unknowning user isn't
   stung by the forgetful user.  Or, a background timer that resets the
   options when the machine has been inactive for a certain amount of
   time.  Or, any other suggestion that would solve the above problem ...

      Sure - teaching the user is the BEST method, but the user is often
   stung once or twice before the lesson is learned.

      andrew.  (brennan@hal.hahnemann.edu)

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 23:08:55 CDT
From: Reverend John <UC521832@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
Subject: snap to grid in finder changes

A couple times now I've found that the invisible "grid" in the finder
for aligning icons changes. I keep the "Snap To Grid" option on in the
Views control panel (this is Sys7.0 tuned) and recently when I placed a
file on the desktop it wasn't aligned right. Picking up another icon
and moving it did the same; it snapped into place, but along different
grid lines! Clean Up Window re-aligned the icons into the new grid
positions, but they're not an improvement. On the lowest line of icons,
where the trash can sits, the lowest line is lower, resulting in the
filenames being cut partway off the screen.

This has happened before, on two occasions when I tried using the
Black Box control panel, which sticks a row of application icons on
one side of the screen and reduces your screen space accordingly in
all applications. This time, I wasn't trying Black Box; it just happened.
My only thought is it could have been Desktop Textures...

I'm running a Mac LC with 6MB of RAM, Sys7.0 (Tuned), and a variety of
extentions. I know I fixed it before by re-installing the system software,
but if anyone has had this problem I'd like to hear about it. It isn't
worth messing with at the moment (time is at a premium) but I wanted
to ask and share my joy at this new favor my mac has done for me ;-).

Rev

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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 11:31:44 CST
From: Chris Culy <cculy@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Subject: Sorting in HyperCard (C/Q)

Hi all,

I accidentally came across this anomaly in the way HyperCard sorts. Try this
and
see if you get the same results. Please excuse the post if this is well
known.

Put the letter "a" and the letter "u umlaut" in that order into separate lines
of a container. Sort that container using the text style (the default). I get
"u umlaut" followed by "a". Sort the container again, and you get the original
order. Hmmm. For more fun, try adding "e" to your list. If you add "e" between
the other two letters, sorting once will get you to the stable order of "u
umlaut, a, e". However, if you put the "e" after the other two letters, the
first sort will put the "e" in the middle, and then you'll get the stable
order
with the next sort. If you start with the order "u umlaut", "e", "a", how many
times do you think it takes to get to a stable order? 3.

Yes, I know you can avoid this by using the international sorting style.
However, it seems to me that the results of sorting using the text style
should
not depend on the order of the input.

Have fun!

Chris
cculy@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:43:09 EDT
From: Spencer_Marks@mathworks.com (Spencer Marks)
Subject: Source Code Printer/Lister

		      Source Code Printer/Lister
Hi, I am hoping this request makes into Info Digest. Sorry for the Email,
but I don't have direct access to PostNews. I hope this is OK.

I am looking for a PD or Shareware Utility the will let me print my .c
source code nicly. I am not interested in Pretty Print because it isn't. I
am looking for a complete, feature ladden program that will cross reference
my functions and matchup the braces and possibly create a function index.

If anyone has or knows of a program like this ( I know they exist for DOS
and UNIX ). I'd greatly appreciate the help. Please  email responses to
spencer@mathwork.com

Thanks,

Spencer

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 9:59:05 MDT
From: powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca
Subject: Sport Scheduling program

>Ed Costello <COSTELLO@YOOHOO.llnl.gov> asked about software to
>assist scheduling events:

The only program that I know of is called Sport Scheduler 1.2.4
and is available from:

Dr. Larry Katz
Computerized Sport Systems Group
Physical Education
University of Calgary
Calgary, Alberta
Canada T2N 1N4
(403) 220-3418
Internet: lkatz@acs.ucalgary.ca

Unfortunately, it is a DOS program. I haven't been able to locate
a Mac program. Contact Dr. Katz for the price and ordering info.

Jim Powlesland
Academic Computing Services
University of Calgary

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:08 EDT
From: FC7061%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU
Subject: Stacks on Tarot Cards?

Dear Info-Mac Netters,

Does anyone have or know of any public domain HyperCard stacks on the
subject of Tarot Cards? Any information would be helpful.


Thanks.
F. Stephen Costa
University at Albany

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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 07:50:06 PDT
From: Paul Brians <BRIANS@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU>
Subject: Supra Fax Modem prices?

Recently I posted a query about prices on the Supra 32bis Fax Modem
and got replies ranging as low as $250, but I was not able to duplicate
those prices, and didn't have the money.  Now I do, so I'm looking for
the best current price.  The lowest I've found in the current MacUser
is from a place called BottomLine in Austin: $325.  I know nothing
about this place, and its 900 number takes me a little aback.  Anybody
have an opinion, or an alternative deal being offered right now?

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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 00:21:34 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: System 7.1 Features

On Tue, 6 Oct 92 22:57:21 -0700 you said:
>There are no benefits to English users. All of the benefits of
>WorldScript only become apparent when you use non- Roman script systems.
>That's one of the reasons they are planning on charging for it. They
>don't see a need for everyone to upgrade.

I've read that 7.1 uses about 300K less RAM to begin with and fixes the
creeping System heap glitch that causes the memory available for apps to
shrink even if one quits from every open app and DA.  If just those two
things are true, then 7.1 offers significant benefits to everyone
running in 4 MBytes are less (especially those with 2 MBytes).

Tell you what; sell me an active matrix color version of the 180 in a
year for the same price as the 170 I bought last year, and I'll happily
pay $20 or so for my system upgrades ;-)

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:03 EDT
From: FC7061%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU
Subject: TrueType versin of Calligraphy?

Dear Info-Mac netters,

Does anyone know of a TrueType version of the old (very old) bit-mapped
Calligraphy font? A friend suggested a font called "Elgarret," but didnt
have a copy or know where to get it. Anyone, who is willing to share or
post it, have "Elgarret" or a different TT version of Calligraphy?


Thanks.
F. Stephen Costa
University at Albany

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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 00:19:46 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Turning on AppleTalk without rebooting

On Tue, 6 Oct 92 19:20:19 -0500 you said:
>I installed System 7 tuneup back when I was short on memory... now I have
>more RAM, and I would like to be able to turn on Appletalk without
rebooting.

Provided you have AppleTalk on when you startup in the first place, you
can toggle it on and off with /info-mac/fkey/toggle-appletalk.hqx  The
only downer is that if you crash with AppleTalk off, you have to
startup, set AppleTalk on and restart.

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 08:10:33 -0400
From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Subject: Upgrade to Microsoft Word 5 imminent?

In comp.sys.mac.digest I wrote:

>Word 5.1 is expected some time during December.

>Current reports in the media indicate that the release will NOT be a free
>upgrade but should be cheaper than a full upgrade.

Correction. New information published in this week's issue of PC Week
indicates that Word 5.1 won't be available until "next quarter" and that
registered users of Word 5.0 for Macintosh will be able to upgrade for
$14.95.

-Geoff

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:30:13 +0100
From: root@apo.esiee.fr
Subject: Wanted: 80xx51 C-cross-compiler

Hi mac world !!

Does somebody knows if there is a C-cross-compiler for 80x51 micro-controllers
running on the mac of course !!
I've one for PC's but running it with Soft-PC is a little crazy !!

Thank you in advance for your help

--
Jean-Claude Arnouilj                  arnouilj@apo.esiee.fr
Unix Systems Administrator
ESIEE:Ecole Superieure d'Ingenieurs en Electronique et Electrotechnique
BP99 - 93162 Noisy-le-Grand CEDEX - FRANCE

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:49 EDT
From: DRBH@db1.cc.rochester.edu
Subject: Water proof StyleWriter cartridge refills?

I have been told that it is possible to refill StyleWriter cartridges.  Can
anyone confirm this?  If so, what brand inks work best?  Can water proof
inks be used?  Does any 3rd party market StyleWriter cartridges with
waterproof inks?
Barry Hall
DRBH@UORDBV

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 8:13:36 cdt
From: "Duckenfield,Paul" <DUCKENFI@AC.GRIN.EDU>
Subject: win 3.1 v. System 7

Eric Dubrow asks for rebutals to a member of his Doctoral Committee on the
relative merits of the Mac v. a PC running Windows. First, I question his
wisdom of challenging a member of his Committee over such a personal choice
decision. I mean, what if the guy holds this against Eric when his thesis
comes up for its final review? That aside, Eric, I think that you can be
best served by being diplomatic and saying that you find the Macintosh
operating system easier to use and that the interface is quicker on
comprable machines. If you aren't in the mood for being diplomatic, you
could say something about using an operating system that at least was
written for the computer, rather than a kludge (Windows) on top of another
kludge (MS-DOS).

Paul

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 14:28:51 EDT
From: Scott Kaplan <sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu>
Subject: Windows 3.1 versus Mac OS 7.1

While Windows 3.1 is meant to be an upgrade that will increase the efficiency
over Windows 3.0, it is not an upgrade so significant to make up for nearly
all of the inherent shortcomings of Windows in general.

First, Windows is slow...REALLY slow.  It lies on top of DOS, and is really
just a specialized application, masquerading as an OS.  The facilities it
offers to the programmer for creating windowed, modeless applications are a
far, far cry from what the Mac has developed over all these years.  And again,
most programs, even if slapped in a window, are still not modeless, windows
specific programs.  The number of *those* programs are growing, but they are
slow.  Windows even tends to slow down (rather dramatically) programs that
run quite quickly under regular DOS.

Basically, the professor you speak of has been fooled by the superficial
mask that Windows is.  It's file management is awful.  It's not intuitive to
use at all.  (Despite the 'look and feel', Windows is just not as
intelligently
designed, and becomes cumbersome to use.)  The amount of software available
that is Windows specific will be a long time coming...and by the time it does,
I have a feeling that the computer world will be looking at something new
coming out.  Windows also does not have the strict programming guidelines that
Apple has set, and dimes to doughnuts, I bet you will see some really compat-
ability problems with each new release of Windows.

And, Macs seem to be getting a little cheaper all the time...(Apple *finally*
went for market share.)

Scott Kaplan
Amherst College
sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 03:48:13 GMT
From: jstc_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (j. collins)
Subject: Word 5.1/Word 6.0

In digest <9210080045.AA16860@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU>
Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

>RICHARD LIM wrote:
> -------------------------
>Subject: Upgrade to Microsoft Word 5 imminent?
>Can anyone out there confirm or deny what someone mentioned to me in passing
>lately, namely that Word 5.1 is due very shortly?  If so, is it likely to be
>much more like Word for Windows 2, in accordance with Microsoft's declared
>policy of maintaining consistency between Mac and Windows apps?  Not that I
>particularly like WfW 2, although it has some nice features...

> -----------------------------

>In talking to a Microsoft support person, I happened to ask if Word would get
>any upgrading anytime soon. He said things have been pretty hush hush, but
>that conventional wisdom over in the Mac branch of Microsoft has it that they
>have something on the order of 50 programmers working through the nights to
>produce a "significant" upgrade. He wouldn't even guess for me what version
>nomenclature would be used. My guess is Word 6, but I'm usually wrong about
>these things.

If you read MacWEEK, there was an article in the issue from last week
about Word 5.1 being due for release around Nov.  The information on Word
6 is that it is going to be a ground up rewrite.

-justin m. collins <jstc_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>

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