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From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: Winner of the Official(tm) (bs) DoD Ba
Organization: Programmers Who Say Ni
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:53:27 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.023134.24189@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
+blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
+>shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun) writes:
+>>blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
+
+>>>>>[about Arlo Guthrie's Motorcycle/The Significance of the Pickle song]
+
+>>But is that the long version with Mr. Guthrie telling the story of how
+>>he came to write the "Motorcycle Song"?
+
+>Yep, it's the long version. In the interest of promoting Culture, here's
+>the track list:

Unless you go to a lot of Arlo concerts, you may be unaware of something.
He changes his rap (in & out of songs) slightly at every concert.  I'm
not sure whether he does it to prevent his own boredom or whether he is
trying to polish & perfect his act, but his concert version of talking 
songs is different thn his album versions and his concert versions vary
from concert to concert.  I strongly suspect that he hones the rap over
a period of concerts & when he feels that it reaches a certain level of
"goodness", he records it for an album.]

Some friends of mine recorded Alice's Restaurant off WBAI in NYC way
before an album came out... and it was quite different from the album
version.

____________________________________________________________________________
	You're never too old to become younger -- Mae West
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 Paul Blumstein, paulb@harley.tti.com, DoD #36, ABATE, AMA, HOG, KD6LAA
            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: DoD Battle Hymn (Dire Straits)
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 05:09:19 GMT

egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
>the pickle song by Arlo Guthrie.

And it's a true epic too. But since nobody else has mentioned Dire
Straits, here's a couple of bits:

Author: Dire Straits
Album title: Communique

Once Upon a Time in the West
---- ---- - ---- -- --- ----

Some people get a cheep laugh breaking up the speed limit
Scaring the pedestrians for a minute
Crossing up the progress driving on the grass
Leaving just enough room to pass
Sunday driver never took a test
Once upon a time in the west

News
----
He sticks to his guns
He take the road as it comes
It takes the shine off his shoes

He's says it's a shame
You know it may be a game
But I won't play to lose

And she tell him that he's crazy
She's saying listen baby
I'm your wife

She tells him he's crazy
For gambling with his life

But he climbs on his horse
You know he feels no remorse
He just kicks it alive

His motor is fine
He take it over the line
Until he's ready to dive

He's too fast to stop
He take it over the top
He make a line in the news


Author: Dire Straits
Album title: On Every Street

The Bug
--- ---

Well it's a strange old game, you learn it slow
One step forward and it's back to go
You're standing on the throttle, you're standing on the brake
in the groove 'til you make a mistake
Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: My bike got vandalized last night
Date: 25 Aug 1992 18:54:51 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 166@remus.rutgers.edu, kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:
>
> and because any
>place of business is responsible for security in their parking area.

No, they're not.  They may be liable, *if* it can be demonstrated that,
through deliberate action or gross neglegence, they did not exercise
the necessary care in looking after the contents of their parking lot.
They are *not* automatically responsible for everything that occurs.

>NJ has very strict bar liability laws.  I know, I've bartended here
>for 5 years, and I managed a bar for about a year.   

So you had to ask rec.motorcycles about the bar's legal liability?!?

> the bar is still liable for making
>sure he doesn't do anything stupid.  

Not only are they not liable for his stupidity, they probably could not
do anything to control his actions without violating his civil rights.

>	If you offer goods or a service for profit, you are inviting
>the public to park on your property, and you are liable for their
>safety and the safety of their property.  

The degree of care you must exercise in looking after that property
depends on whether the bailment is for hire or not.  If you run an auto
repair shop, where you must take posession of your client's automobile
in order to run your business, the bailment is for hire, and you must
exercise "ordinary" care in looking out for it.  If you provide parking
as a convenience, and the placement of an automobile in your lot is not
related to your business, the bailment is not for hire, and you must
exercise "slight" care.  What constitutes "ordinary" or "slight" care
is determined by a judge, considering what a "prudent man" would do
under similar circumstances.

NOTE:  I'm no attorney.  The above interpretation is based on general
principles of California law, and may or may not apply to bars in NJ.


---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What to put on chrome pipes??
Date: 29 Aug 92 22:00:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: wixer.1992Aug29.220033.6816
Organization: Real/Time Communications

In article <1992Aug29.060753.19494@icf.hrb.com> mjk@icf.hrb.com (Michael J. Kelley) writes:

>Can somebody recommend something to put on chrome pipes to keep them from
>rusting while my bike is stored for the winter.  -- 

I'd recommend a few hours of sanding and stripping, then powdercoat 'em black.

Real motorcycles don't have chrome. Real motorcycles have black (or at least
brushed aluminum) parts, four cylinders, and break the DoD nominal speed in
third gear, if not second.

Yes, I realize my EX fails on one of those points, but it's a transition
bike- the ZX-6 will qualify.

(hey, by the way, what kind of bikes DOES Mr. Richard Swift ride? Rivas? Elite
90's? A... HELIX?!)

 -LjM

-- 
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/ Lyle J \ lestat@wixer.cactus.org /  Team Doofus  \ DoD / Nobody else WANTS \
\ Mackey /     Social Engineer     \ '89 Kaw EX500 / 587 \  my  opinions...  /
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From: frank@marvin.contex.com (Frank Perdicaro)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Carrying bicycle on a motorcycle
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:35:37 GMT
Organization: Xyvision Design Systems

In article <JET.92Aug31144058@win30.nas.nasa.gov> jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>
>'bout to lose my mind again and buy a bicycle.  The question is: has
>anybody seen/thought about a bike rack for a motorcycle?  Sue Christ
>(sp?) said she put her mountain bike on the back of her CM400.  I've
>got a bit more room on the back of the R100R :-), plus I've got
>luggage that it could be strapped to/around.
>
>The first step for me is to go to a bike shop and ask about small
>"universal" bike racks and see what they come up with.
>
I did read an article in the BMWMOA about a couple that has a very
small trailer they towed benind their rig.  It carried two
disassembled bicycles.  Check the issues between 1978 and 1983, my 
memory is a bit fuzzy...

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      Legalize guns, drugs and cash...today.		101 Edgewater Drive
   inhouse: frank@marvin, x5572				Wakefield MA
outhouse: frank@contex.com, 617-245-4100x5572		018801285
From: laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: beginner's luck
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:21:19 PDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: DFWM, Inc

In article <1992Aug25.154852.7008@athena.mit.edu>, rpearl@athena.mit.edu (Rachel A Pearl) writes:
> Okay, I've finally enrolled inaOD motorcycle safelty  course and
> I'm going to learn how to ride that crazy thing. I'm pretty 
> psyched about it and I have a lot of support from a few
> biker friends of mine. I just thought I'd put it out to the group -
> What would be a good bike for an average sized 34 year old woman to start out
> on? I'm coming from ground zero information so any help I could get
> would be greatly appreciated.

rachel, go and sit on several bikes this weekend-- make the tour of
your local yamaha-suzuki-honda-kawasaki dealers.  get an idea of what
suits you.  if you get some idea of what you're looking for, you'll be
a better shopper, particularly if you start hunting for something used
in the newspaper.  don't let the salesdroid talk you into a bike
that'll "be just the thing for a girl."  this is drivel. don't expect
to keep your first bike forever, and don't think you won't drop it a
few times.  after you drop the $$ on the bike, go out and drop $$ on
good clothes--get good boots that cover your ankles, and regular
motorcycle gloves and a jacket, as well as your helmet. 

-- laurie
____________________________________________________________________
"Never underestimate the ability of a man to underestimate the abil-
ity of a woman."                                   --V.I. Warshawski

laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us                                   DoD #0023
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: European bike ride
Organization: Programmers Who Say Ni
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:35:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.173307.21244@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston) writes:
+In article <1992Aug25.133534.12065@bnr.uk> datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
+
+>Get real, get a life, get a geography book!
+>I saw on telly recently that 9 out of 10 Americans didn't know where the
+>UK was on a globe so I shouldn't be too hard on you after all.
+
+you misheard: they said that 9 out of 10 americans didn't *care* where the
+uk was on a globe.  count me in that nine.

What is a UK?

____________________________________________________________________________
	    So many restaurants, so little time!
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            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
From: edw@boi.hp.com (Edward Walsh)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: I'll be back east.
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:24:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: mail.Btp6p8.FLz
Distribution: na
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
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I just thought I'd mention, I'll be back east visiting family the week
proceeding and thru Labor Day. At various times I will be in the Philly
area, N.E. Pa. (Scranton/Carbondale), Possibly Wash. D.C., and maybe upstate 
N.Y. I will try to abscond with the BMW my Brother in Law owns. 
^^^ I may try for the finger lakes Rally (I'll wear my DoD shirt, and if I
get the bike it's a R65RS? (Cafe,small fairing, single sided swingarm less 
common? Va. plates)
(Unfortunately, my sister sold her Moto Morini 3 1/2). If anyone wants to 
volunteer their bike to go riding, I'd be happy to oblige.

Sorry about the late notice. If you are interested, call my work number
and leave a message on the voice droid. I'll check it later. My computer
will be down for a couple of days.
------------------------------Edward Walsh----Hewlett-Packard Company-------
                              edw@boi.hp.com  Disk Memory Division, MS213
                              (208)323-2174   P.O. Box 39  Boise,Idaho 83707
                              FJ1200'89,XZ550RJ(Vision)'82,DoD#98
From: weigl@sibelius.inria.fr (Konrad Weigl)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Carrying bicycle on a motorcycle
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:48:13 GMT
Organization: INRIA, Sophia-Antipolis (Fr)

Well, I have trailered my bicycle several timese behind my harley;
I strapped the front wheel to the side of the rear wheel, off the ground,
so that the bicycle could follow in curves...

With the speed limit you have in the states, should be no problem...8-)

Konrad Weigl               Tel. +33 93 65 78 63
Projet Pastis              Fax  +33 93 65 76 43
INRIA                      email weigl@sophia.inria.fr
B.P. 93
06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex 
France
From: martin@adpgate.UUCP (Martin Golding)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Countersteering a shafty
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:25:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: adpplz.1544
Organization: ADP Dealer Services R&D, Portland, OR

Why are you the only person in the world who thinks _counter_steering
doesn't have anything to do with _steering_? Perhaps your definition
is a bit confused, maybe? Irregardless, even using your definition,
you're wrong.


john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:

: I still am looking for someone who claims otherwise to volunteer to have a
: block put on their fork to stop countersteer (at least, any that would cross
: zero degrees) and be filmed negotiating the test curve. :-)

The problem, of course, is that motorcycles derive their stability from
gyroscopically induced movement of the front wheel. (Really- it's been
tested. You take a bicycle, and add another wheel, and spin it at the same
speed in the opposite direction, and the bike gets seriously dangerous.)
The motorcycle, having been made unstable, would simply fall down in the
direction of the block. Since the turn wouldn't have been started until
well after the death of the rider, what's the _point_?


And just out of curiosity, where do you believe the force comes from that
rotates the front wheel in the opposite direction of the curve..

1) if the rider initiates the turn by leaning, without touching the bars?

2) if the turn is initiated by another rider dropping a brick in a saddlebag?

3) in winter, when there are no icecreamcones uprotation of the shaft?


          Martin Golding             |  Leather and helmets only work
DoD #236  BMWMOA #55952  WMTC #0002  |   if you're already having an accident.
[motcsd!]mcspdx!adpgate!martin
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Dry Sump Lubrication
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 00:24:39 GMT

davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS) writes:

>  It allows the volume of the crankcase to be reduced, which improves
>performance on single and twin cylinder engines, especially when
>combined with a timed or reed-valve breather.

Reed valve? Surely you're not talking about 2-strokes and wet/dry sumps
in the same breath?
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
From: aki <aki@atlas.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: My bike got vandalized last night
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6C13D9394062631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 26 Aug 92 18:54:27 GMT
Organization: World Bank
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d8
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:00:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.231124.8184@microunity.com> Eric Murray,
ericm@microunity.com writes:
>
>Having recently helped a couple people to get started, I guess I'm as
>qualified as anyone to answer this...
 
I agree 100% with Erik, many MANY years ago when I first hopped on my
first bike (rat), I must of dropped it half a dozen times.  Good thing it
was a "junker" so all I did was get more scratches in my dents.  One thing
though, don't scrimp on safety equipment (have I heard that before?).  Buy
yourself a good FULL FACE helmet, good leather and gloves.  This is
especially
important when you are first learning to ride since the pavement seems to
introduce itself more regularly ; -) .  
If you decide you don't like to ride =8 - O , you can always sell them
later.
OBTW..as the MSF will remind you, make sure both your feet will
comfortably
touch the ground, makes it alot easier when you come to stoplights!

-aki
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                                                     *
      -aki                                         *   A tank of gas, a
pair of
      DoD#0628                               *   gloves, a helmet on my
      ------------------------     *   head and a motor between
       Disclamer: Comments are my  *   my legs..folks, it don't git
      own..my employer doesn't        *   no bettern' this....
      understand them...                    *
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From: cpaull@arctic.mips.com (Christopher Paull)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HOV lanes
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:36:30 GMT
Reply-To: cpaull@arctic.mips.com (Christopher Paull)
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: arctic.mips.com

In article <1992Sep1.151247.404@halfdome.sf.ca.us>, bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep01.172006.20804@rchland.ibm.com>, essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum) writes:
|> > 
|> > what are HOV lanes?  what does HOV stand for?
|> 
|> good question! 
|> 
|> i've always wondered what "STOP" stood for.  can anyone tell me?
|> 

Spin Tires On Pavement


-- 
Chris Paull -- cpaull@mips.com 
USPS: Silicon Graphics, 930 Arques, Sunnyvale, CA 94086
PHONE: (408)-524-8132  VOICE: "Yo, Chris!"    -- Standard Disclaimer --
"Mere words do not suffice, to understand you must experience."
From: martin@adpgate.UUCP (Martin Golding)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Rainsuit
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:45:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: adpplz.1539
Organization: ADP Dealer Services R&D, Portland, OR

> ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine) writes:

>>  The best solution I've found for gloves is vinyl, medical type rubber gloves
>>  over my ordinary summer, unlined racing gloves. 

laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott) writes:

> before i moved from chicago to god's country, i spent a good bit of
> riding time in precip, snow, rain, sleet, even hail.

Which makes her Fully Qualified to have an Opinion, besides being
the Hottest Buzzard Dodger on Two Wheels.


> [if] the outside glove is
> heavy enough to keep water out and big enough to get on over decently
> heavy motorcycle gloves, you can't feel much through it.

Precisely. Entirely true. Which is why I am here, once again, recommending
(yeah, boring.) Hippo Hands (tm), or their substitute.

Hippo Hands (tm) fit over the handlebars and controls, with some provision
as necessary for handlebar mount mirrors. They're waterproof and insulated,
and your hands fit loosely inside them to work the controls. I use genuine
Vetter on Treaty of Leningrad, on which I've had personal experience with
rain in below freezing temperatures. The Hippo Hands worked nicely. Mostly
I worried about surviving. The beautiful Langlitz substitutes my Wonderful
Wife bought me for my birthday last year took me and my R100 through an
Oregon winter of cold, wind, and gallons of rain. I didn't have to cage.
And they didn't even grow moss.

Drawbacks:
  They don't work with bar-end mirrors.
  You have to know where all the controls are, you can't peek. I'd
   recommend against them for at least your first full year of riding.
  If you take your brake hand out to scratch your nose, you could be
   in serious trouble getting it back in an emergency. Besides getting cold.
  If the weather is variable they're less convenient to doff and don
   than gloves.
  If you get the Langlitz version, it has to be set up for the mirrors at
   the factory, and you have to grease them (with leather food) regularly.

Advantages:
  You wear comfortable, lightweight gloves to keep the chill off, and your
   hands stay warm and cozy.
  The Langlitz versions are real sheepskin, which is positively luxurious.


One can still find Vetter Hippo Hands (tm), used, for around 25 bucks.
I don't know what the Langlitz things cost; it's not in the catalog.
If somebody were to order them and send me their bike I'd be glad to get
them fitted.  It could take months, but I'm the patient kind.


          Martin Golding          |  Having a sidecar means
DoD #236  BMWMOA #55952  WMTC #2  |   never having to say "but it's SNOWING!"
[motcsd!]mcspdx!adpgate!martin
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Fixing a flat on a radial tire.
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:39:08 GMT

Okay, even though I have plugged a rear radial on my Concours, then continued
to run the tire damn near down to the cords, I'll assume for now that plugs
are *bad*.  Okay.

My question, assuming that plugs are *bad* and patch-plugs are *better*, on
account of the difference in bonded area, how are those plugs with the little
pointy nubs on the end, sort of like an arrow, that you forcibly, uh, force
into the hole?  Those look like if properly installed they would be rather
hard to pull out the wrong way.  Here, let me show you with some
ASCIIGRAPHICS(tm):

In article <1992Aug26.222221.3086@megatek.com> megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net writes:
|
|  Lets not.. :-)

Oh, okay, then, never mind.

Anyway, other than the fact that you have shoot the plug into your tire with
a .22 pistol, would those things be a better alternative for your basic do-it-
yourselfer-who-hates-to-take-tires-off?

Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Feeling poorly)           |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Well, soon anyway.)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905      DoD #0330    COG 939        |   -- Evo Woman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blave@netcom.com (David W. Blevins)
Subject: California only: Fiamm dealer
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 18:26:03 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: usa

I found a good selection of Fiamms at the local Kragen Auto Store (on
Campbell Ave. for those who are truly local).  They had Super Louds
and Euro Super Louds, with the Super Louds sold singly and in pairs ($10.99
and $24.99, respectively).  The pair comes with the red cosmetic covers...
Having bought a pair (High/Low tones), I don't know whether there's enough
room inside the front fairing of my '87 CBR1000 to mount both of them, so
I may have one up for sale soon...

blave@netcom.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: I want my DOD number!!! (you better let him have one...)
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 19:53:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.144626.15225@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil> dsc3jfs@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Jim Small) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.210334.24662@news.nd.edu> Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu (Richard A. Swift) writes:

>>I havent had a vasectomy, but I do own two motorcycles
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>No need, huh?

the one with the greatest need would be his father


cliff weston
dod# 0598
-------------------------
i love the fiamms.
the fiamms are my friends.