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From: halchuk@seismo.emr.ca (Steve Halchuk)
Subject: WC QUALIFIERS - AFRICA Groups B & C
Reply-To: halchuk@seismo.emr.ca
Organization: Dept. of Energy, Mines & Resources, Canada
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:13:26 GMT

Results from WC qualifiers - Africa Groups B & C

Africa Group B

10 Jan   Zaire 1 - Cameroon 2  (rescheduled from Dec 20)

		P W D L  F  A Pts
Cameroon	2 2 0 0  7  1  4    
Zaire		3 1 0 2  5  5  2    
Swaziland	2 1 0 1  1  5  2
Liberia		1 0 0 1  2  4  0

Africa Group C

10 Jan   Angola 1 - Zimbabwe 1  (rescheduled from Oct 25) 

		P W D L  F  A Pts
Zimbabwe	3 2 1 0  4  2  5    
Egypt		3 2 0 1  6  3  4    
Angola		2 0 1 1  1  2  1
Togo		2 0 0 2  1  5  0

Swaziland v. Liberia was also to be played Jan 10 (it had been postponed
from Dec 20). Does anyone have a result or has it been rescheduled yet again?

Thanks
Stephen
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From: CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: US vs England in Boston area
Date: 11 Jan 1993 19:58:28 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

 >...How to get tickets for USA : England?

Write to Boston Soccer (the WC venue group) or call TicketMaster
who is the monopoly that will be distributing the tickets, or maybe
call Foxboro Stadium.

Maybe some of the Boston area r-s-s folks could find some local phone
numbers for you. As you can see, I am a bit far from New England at
the moment.

Chris

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From: major@shuksan (Mike Schmitt)
Subject: Re: kick back to keeper
Organization: Man Machine Systems Technology
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:47:31 GMT

: >: Apparently, the NCAA will comply _next_ season.
: 
: > You have to remember when the Federation season begins.  Their 'season'
: > starts with the beginning of the school year.  Therefore, the rules were
: > already in place for 92-93 (September-June).  So, when FIFA implemented
: > their 1992 Memorandum - effective July, the Federation (College/High School)
: > rules were already out - ready for September '92.
: 
: I fail to see why the NCAA has a problem with this. The season in most
: European countries starts in August or September, they had no problem
: implementing the rule changes. FIFA have there conference at the same
: time every year and any rule changes are effective from the end of July,
: most Associations know this and are ready to implement the rule changes
: when they should. What's so special about the NCAA?

  Nothing.  I wasn't trying to defend their action - just explain why they
  do what they do.  I personaly don't care for it - there should be one set
  of rules for the game.   


-- 
Mike Schmitt - Disclaimer: These opinions are not my employer's.  My opinions 
are protected by the 1st Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of
America.  No mission too difficult, no sacrifice too great.  Duty first. 

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From: michals@fuw.edu.pl (Michal Szleper)
Subject: Re: WC Qual. Groups (Europe)
Organization: Warsaw University Physics Dept.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:57:23 GMT

Here's my prediction:

    Group 1      Group 2       Group 3      Group 4      Group 5      Group 6
    -------      -------       -------      -------      -------      -------
    Italy        Netherlands   Ireland      Belgium      Russia       France
    Portugal     Poland        Spain        Romania      Hungary      Sweden

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From: PKARLIOT%KNOX.BITNET@UICVM.UIC.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Italian League: Serie A and B Scores/Standings (Jan 10 Games)
Date: 11 Jan 1993 22:50:45 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

      Hmmm...Lazio seems to be doing extremely well these past few weeks.  Isn't
   that their 4th consecutive win now?
      By the way, has Lazio ever played in European competition?
                                                                  Cheers,
                                                                  Panos
From: PKARLIOT%KNOX.BITNET@UICVM.UIC.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Celtic are awayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
Date: 11 Jan 1993 19:47:49 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

      How about Aberdeen pal?
      They are good aren't they?
                                                                    Panos
Organisation: European Space Technology Centre (E.S.T.E.C)
Date: Sunday, 3 Jan 1993 11:46:14 CET
From: <SCLARKE@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject:    FA Cup results

FA Cup round 2 replay

Bury      1 - 0 Wigan

FA Cup round 3

Villa     1 - 1 Bristol R
Blackburn 3 - 1 Bournemouth
Brentford 0 - 2 Grimsby
Brighton  1 - 0 Portsmouth
Cambridge  off  Sheff Wed
Crewe      off  Marine
Derby     2 - 1 Stockport
Gillinghm 0 - 0 Huddersfield
Hartlep'l 1 - 0 C. Palace HA HA HA HA HA
Ipswich    off  Plymouth
Leeds     1 - 1 Charlton
Leicester  off  Barnsley
Luton      off  Bristol C
Man City  1 - 1 Reading
Marlow    1 - 5 Spurs
Newcastle 4 - 0 Port Vale
Northmptn  off  Rotherham
Norwich    off  Coventry
Notts Co   off  Sunderland
Oldham    2 - 2 Tranmere
Sheff Utd 2 - 2 Burnley
Sarfend    off  Millwall
Swansea   1 - 1 Oxford
Watford   1 - 4 Wolves
West Brom 0 - 2 West Ham bugger!
Wimbledon 0 - 0 Everton
Yeovil    1 - 3 Arsenal


Notts Forest and Southampton play today, which is live on BBC 1, after
Eastenders.
From: mcunniffe@essb.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: The mighty Liverpool
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:53:20 GMT
Reply-To: mcunniffe@essb.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Keyword

--     I am fed up with Man. Utd. fans coming up to me and saying that this will
be Utd.'s year to win the title. They have been saying that for the last 
26 years and still no results. I would love to see Liverpool win the title
but if they fail, then I would like to see Aston Villa win the title. Anybody
but the Mancs. Since Utd. last won the title in 1967, Liverpool have won it 
an amazing 11 occasions which means that in the last 20 years, the great
Liverpool have won 55% of the available league titles. They have won more
titles than Leeds, Derby, Forest, Villa , Everton & Arsenal put together in
the last 20 years.

       Martin Cunniffe, DEC, Galway, Ireland   - mcunniffe@essb.enet.dec.com

       "Liverpool - The greatest club side that the world has seen"	
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From: mppu3@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Conor McMenamin)
Subject: Re: Just another example of the 'fabulous' English
Organization: University of Sussex
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 02:11:22 GMT

Kevin Folan (kfolan@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk) wrote:
: From article <C0GD7A.At2@hsi.com>, by archer@hsi.com (Garry Archer):

: > The most exciting giant-killer game I ever witnessed was then non-league
: > Hereford United beating then first division Newcastle United 2-1 in a replay
: > after a 2-2 draw in 1972.  That goal, Ricky George's, I think, will remain
: > in my opinion, the best goal I ever saw!

: Wasn't the 30 yarder scored by Ronnie Radford to equalise, and then
: Rick George went on to force in the winner from close range ?
: 
: I'd agree with you though that the goal was one of the best ever.

It _was_ Ronnie Radford who scored the screamer. 30 yards out, in the
mud, and still rising when it clattered into the top corner. Pity those
in the Netherlands who never get to see such heroics...
From: sean_murphy@quixote.wpd.sgi.com (Sean Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Coaching Help
Summary: Coaching Help
Date: 8 Jan 93 05:10:21 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

I'm the coach of a girls soccer team and am looking for information that
I can relay to my players so their game improves. My main areas of concern
are goalkeeping, our passing game, and basically ball control. If anyone
could give me some pointers or recommend some helpful literature, I would
be extremely grateful. Thanks in advance.


Sean Murphy
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring)
Subject: Just another example of the 'fabulous' English
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 10:25:53 GMT


What a two-weeks holiday can do to a person! The last days I was so bored
that I watched some English FA-Cup soccer. Soon I was even more bored, by
the lack of intelligence in the games, but then Bolton Wanderers against
Liverpool came up...

You'll all now the result (2-2) by now. Just another example of what the
English premier league means... Bolton TWO (!!!) divisions lower than 
Liverpool, one of the so-called 'top-teams' in England. What a joke! 
That kind of results can only be true in England. Liverpool, IF it were the
top-team it pretends to be, should have easily CRUSHED Bolton, just by the
status the team has. But no, they play 2-2. Nowhere in Europe the (real)
top-teams make a laugh of themselves in that way. They just win with 3 or 4
goals difference, just because they ARE top-teams!

Another remarkable thing I noticed: Stuart Pearce, the captain of the English
national team, plays for Nottingham Forrest. I grabbed my Voetbal International
from somewhere and looked for the English standings and yes... Forrest 
firmly occupy the last position in the Premier League. That's a strange thing,
I think. What if Forrest relegates this season? Will Pearce still play for them
in the first division? And will he then still be captain (or even player) for
the national team? I don't think that would happen if something like that
happened here. If a player plays for a lower-regions team here, he isn't
selected at all for the Dutch team. Any comments about that strange situation?


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From: tpd1@cec1.wustl.edu (Theodore P. David)
Subject: Cyprus's results - 1/10/93
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:33:13 GMT

From:         THEO <TPASCHALIDES@BPA.ARIZONA.EDU>

First games of 1993:

AEL          03 OLYMPIAKOS   01
APOLLWN      05 ARIS         01
POL          01 ANORTHOSIS   01
SALAMINA     02 EPA          00
APOP         00 AXNA         05
ENWSIS       04 EUAGORAS     01

The game between APOEL-OMONOIA will be next Wednesday at Tsireio (Limassol)
The uncompleted game between APOEL-ANORTHOSIS was decided to be 0:2 (against
APOEL).

More comments from Theodoros Paschalides in Greek: (too lazy to translate...)

"To paignidi metaxi APOEL kai Omonoias 0a ginei thn erxomenh tetarth logo
ths timwrias tou APOEL apo thn Dikastikh. H edra tou APoel einai
timwrimenh, kai etsi to paignidi 0a ginei sto tsirio thn tetarth. H
dikastikh katakurwse to paignidi me 2-0 uper ths anwrthwsis kai timwrise to
Apoel me prostimo kai 1 agwnistikh thn edra tou. Epishs apovlithika oi
Kokits me 5 agwnistikes, petridis kai aristokleous me 2."

                      CYPRUS SOCCER CHAMPIONSHIP  01/10/93
                     --------------------------------------

                TEAM       GAMES  PNTS      W   DR  D    GF   GA
           1   APOLLWN      12     27       8   3   1    36  15
           2   SALAMINA     12     26       8   2   2    22   9
           3   OMONOIA      11     24       7   3   1    40  17
           4   ANORTHOSIS   12     23       7   2   3    18  14
           5   APOEL        11     21       6   3   2    20  11
           6   ENWSIS       12     19       6   1   5    25  26
           7   AXNA         12     19       6   1   5    23  16
           8   AEL          12     14       4   2   6    21  21
           9   ARIS         12     14       4   2   6    18  28
          10   EUAGORAS     12     13       4   1   7    19  25
          11   EPA          12     10       2   4   6    11  21
          12   OLYMPIAKOS   12     10       3   1   8    11  29
          13   POL          12      9       1   6   5    14  18
          14   APOP         12      4       1   1  10     7  35

Theodoros
From: morphet@cguhpa.cgu.mcc.ac.uk (Helen Morphet)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Liverpool - my boys!
Date: 4 Jan 93 13:43:46 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

This Saturday sees the opportunity for my boys to reek their revenge on those so-called champions-in-waiting, the Villa. And I shall be there myself, only the second time I have seen the lads in action. The last was the game at Villa Park, and what a disaster that was - I had the misfortune to be in the Villa seats (my thing's a Villa fan) and I was made to feel so small.

So, stuff the Villa, lads!

And, yes, we will be in the Premier League for all time. I can't understand all this hatred aimed towards my boys. Surely jealousy?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Celtic Pull Out Of SSL
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:08:52 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

Latest development in the proposed Scottish "Super" league is that Celtic
have withdrawn their support. This isn't entirely surprising as Brady has
already resigned them from this seasons Premier League!

They are to support the Scottish Football League's proposal of a 14-12-12
setup. According to Sandy the Aberdeen Chairman's quote was "If Celtic want
to be champions of the 1st and 2nd Divisions then let them go and do it". 

And why not, the SSL doesn't need Celtic. Rangers, Aberdeen, Hearts and
Dundee United could survive in a SSL without Celtic. After all, their crowds
are only around the 16,000 mark. However, one can see Celtic's reasoning
here, with 14 teams it's feasible that they may win more games, but not
against the top sides though as the period over the festive season has shown.

-- 
 Scott Jackson              e-mail scottj@spider.co.uk
 Spider Systems
 Edinburry                  "...I only score great goals. Some of them less
 Sco'lind                    great than others admittedly." - A McCoist
From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: SSL: The Celtic Defection
Date: 11 Jan 93 09:37:29 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

As previously mentioned, Celtic have defected from the ranks of the SSL back
to supporting the Scottish League for a structure of 14-12-12. Over the
weekend, it became clearer as to why Celtic have decided to do this.

The proposal for the 14 team Premier League is outragous. After playing 26
games, the league splits up into two with the top six playing each other
twice to decide the Champions. However, the teams will start with zero points!
If you take a look at the Premier League at the moment, Rangers are *twelve*
points ahead of Celtic with a game in hand after only 24 games. One can see
the self motives here.

This proposal is a joke and makes the preceeding 26 games meaningless. After
all, Rangers, Aberdeen, Dundee United, Hearts, possibly Celtic and another
will occupy the top six places. It is possible for the sixth club to win the
league in the ten game sprint after being a massive amount behind the leaders
after 26 games.

I was sceptical at first about the Super League but now it seems a good idea
as there is a chance to leave Celtic out in the cold as there is no guarantee
that they would be invited to join any league if it got off the ground. They
could be left playing First and Second division teams.

The bottom line is though, after three defeats in a row, they had a no score
draw against a Second Division team in the Cup on Saturday. Have they found
their true level.....

-- 
 Scott Jackson              e-mail scottj@spider.co.uk
 Spider Systems
 Edinburry                  "...I only score great goals. Some of them less
 Sco'lind                    great than others admittedly." - A McCoist
From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: SOUNESS V SMITH (and McAvennie)
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:24:19 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <1993Jan7.141141.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, clgs11@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
> In article <1993Jan7.130740.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>> In article <1993Jan7.123913.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, clgs11@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>>> In article <1993Jan6.183038.2661@dct.ac.uk>, mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell) writes:


> You seem to have a fixation about Celtic, I thought Rangers were now on par
> with the AC Milans etc. of this world ????? You seem to compare everything they
> are doing to what Celtic are doing. Why ???? Is it that you realise Rangers are
> good but not great and it doesn't matter if they don't win in Europe at least
> they've beaten Celtic.????


	No fixation or hang ups, it just seems Celtic are a convenient
example to use  of how not to buy success  :-)  I also mentioned ManU if
you'd care to check.

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From: yonas@ynsakgn.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: The Great AC Milan!
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 00:06:51 GMT
Reply-To: yonas@ynsakgn.ibm.com ()
Organization: IBM GS

In article <C0Hy10.CB6@dei.unipd.it>, Fede@paola.dei.unipd.it (Federico
Lazzaro 320201/IF) writes:
> From: Fede@paola.dei.unipd.it (Federico Lazzaro 320201/IF)
> Subject: The Great AC Milan!
> Organization: Organization: Universita' di Padova, Italia
> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:29:24 GMT
> 
> I want only say everybody that Milan is the best soccer team of the World.
> I'm interesting of speaking with us about Milan!
> I often go to Milan matches at San Siro, Milano.
> Please write News about Milan and his matches and i will reply to you!
> 
> P.S. i don't know very well English, I apologize!
> 
> 
> 
> 

What is Milan upto? The last time I was following Milan was 84-86 seasons.
Gullit and Van Basten were great players. Where are this players now? And
one more question: How can I subscribe to Guerrino sportivo? And if 
possible do you know how much money it will cost in US dollars. I heard
there is a way that someone can mail it to me for less than what the 
company charges?


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From: smk@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Stefan Kahrs)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Just another example of the 'fabulous' English
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:49:39 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Edinburgh, LFCS

In article <1993Jan5.102553.9177@fwi.uva.nl> bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:

>   You'll all now the result (2-2) by now. Just another example of what the
>   English premier league means... Bolton TWO (!!!) divisions lower than 
>   Liverpool, one of the so-called 'top-teams' in England. What a joke! 
>   That kind of results can only be true in England. Liverpool, IF it were the

Not quite.  In Germany, Hertha BSC reached the semi-final of the cup.
But not the first team (which plays in the lower ranks of the second
division), but the second team of the club, the "Amateurs".
It is unusual that a team from the Amateur divisions goes that far,
but upsets are (and always were) quite common in the German Cup ---
even Bayern Munich in their big days (with Beckenbauer&Co)
lost against third division sides.

>   top-team it pretends to be, should have easily CRUSHED Bolton, just by the
>   status the team has. But no, they play 2-2. Nowhere in Europe the (real)
>   top-teams make a laugh of themselves in that way. They just win with 3 or 4
>   goals difference, just because they ARE top-teams!

I disagree, it depends on the size (in people and in acres) of the country
and on the attitude towards the big clubs.
If the big clubs are generally liked and everybody wants to play there,
you have easily such a polarisation of forces as in Holland, but if
there are tensions between different regions of a country
players are more likely to stay where their roots are.

>   Another remarkable thing I noticed: Stuart Pearce, the captain of the English
>   national team, plays for Nottingham Forrest. I grabbed my Voetbal International
>   from somewhere and looked for the English standings and yes... Forrest 
>   firmly occupy the last position in the Premier League. That's a strange thing,
>   I think. What if Forrest relegates this season? Will Pearce still play for them
>   in the first division? And will he then still be captain (or even player) for
>   the national team? I don't think that would happen if something like that
>   happened here. If a player plays for a lower-regions team here, he isn't
>   selected at all for the Dutch team. Any comments about that strange situation?

In Germany, a player is less likely to be picked for the national
team, if he plays for a lesser ranked team -- but only less likely,
as long as he plays in the first division, he still can play internationally.
(Illgner has currently problems to keep his place as Koeln is struggling.)
It is an entirely different thing if a player is out of the first
division.  Going through the remotest corners of my mind, I remember
such a discussion concerning Sigfried Held (yes - it is that long ago)
when his team Kickers Offenbach was relegated and he continued to play there.
I think he lost his place in the German team then.
--
Stefan Kahrs
From: statlab1@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: World Cup / European groups.
Date: 8 Jan 93 10:38:15 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Does anybody have the following information? If yes, please
post on the newsgroup. Also please send personalto my e-mail address 
because I cannot extract a file from the newsgroup.

All the games that have been played until today in the six groups
of Europe for the World Cup 94 (qualified round).

The current tables in each group.

All the remaining games in each group.

Thank you very much.
Stavros, Michigan.
e-mail address: statlab1@gw.wmich.edu