From: mghayalo@uceng.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod)
Subject: Re: Moslems@
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:34:34 GMT

In article <1992Dec25.071904.36066@slate.mines.colorado.edu> imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:
>In article <1992Dec25.045548.24739@fuug.fi> an3923@anon.penet.fi writes:
>>
>>
>>I am from Turkey and I noticed that there is something very funny
>>about all the world conflicts. ( I am not a practicing moslem)
>>
>
>>Israel-Palestinian issue ( Moslems Vs Jews)
>>Cyprus Problem           ( Moslems Vs Catholics)
>>German Ethnic trouble    ( Moslems ( Turks) Vs Germans)
>>Bosnian issue            ( Moslems Vs Christians)
>>Iraq - Kuwait strife     ( Moslems Vs Moslems)
>>Iran - Iraq              ( ditto)
>>Iraq Vs Kurds            ( ditto)
>>Indian temple issue      ( Moslems Vs Hindus)
>>Burmese ethnic problems  ( Moslems Vs Buddhists)
>>Malaysian ethnic trouble ( Moslems Vs Chinese)
>>Somalian problem         ( Moslems vs Moslems)
>>Armenia                  ( Moslems Vs christians)
>>
>
>If you please ponder carefully ,you will find that except Islam every
>religion is same. For example take chinese( who donot believe in God) and
>hindus( who believe in 1000 Gods) amazingly they have many things in common
>That both eat pork , both drink alcohol, both have same concept of
>marriage. So if a chinese guy accept hinduism there would be no direct
>impact on his/her life. Similar is the case with xtians and hindus and 
>so on. So there is only one confrontation ,Muslim vs  Non-muslim.

I am sorry Mustafa but you don't make any sense.  
1. Chinese eat beef, Hinduism is against that.
2. Christians eat beef too.
3. Christians believe in one god and as you say Hindus believe in 1000 Gods.
4. How is believing in no God and believing in 1000 Gods the same thing?
5. Hindu marriage as far as I know has no limitations on the number of
   husbands or wives.  But in India there is a law against that for Hindus.

Every religion is different in some concepts that is why to be fair
religion should have no role to play in governing the state.
>
>>
>>	Almost every conceivable problem in the world is caused by moslems.
>>Also, undoubtably all the major barbaric regimes in the world are run by
>>Moslems ( Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Kuwait, Yemen, Iran, Pakistan just to name a few)
>>and the major terrorist nations ( except Cuba) are all moslem ( Pakistan, Iran,
>>cyria, Lybia, Jordan). Turkey is the ONLY moslem country which is secular.
>>What does this tell us about our religion and our culture? It makes me wonder!
>
>This is absolutely wrong to say that every porblem is caused by muslims. 
>In fact the case is reverse, every porblem is created for the muslim. 
>For example  in india , before the british invasion,there was used to be 
>a muslim rule. In that more than 1000 years rule we donot find any
>hindu-muslim conflict. Even some of the Mughal Emperors used to have
>Hindu Wives. There was peace and harmony. But when hindu came into 
>power , after british left india, they started planning to demolish
>all the mosques in india. In fact , on the eve of the establishment
>of Pakistan there was a movement in india to convert all the muslims
>to hinduism by force .

Yes the Mughals were the greatest, but nobody has anwsered Satwinder's
questions.  If inter religioun marriages define peace and harmony in a
country, then in India now we have more such marriages than in that 
took place in the Mughal era.
1. Mumtaz's husband is a Hindu
2. Amir Khan's wife is a Hindu
3. Sonam has a Hindu hasband
4. Sunil Dutt married a Muslim.

These are just the popular ones.
Who told you that there was a movement to convert all Muslims to Hindus?
Don't we have different laws for them.  And about Hindu rule in India,
as far as I know none of the PMs declared themselves as Hindus, they
have always said that they believe in all faiths.  Rajiv Gandhi's father
was a Parsi, I don't know what religion he followed.  

Don't worry about the Mughals, none of us were there then so we cannot
be certian if things were peaceful during their rule.  In the subcontinent
India has a Hindu majority and Pakistan has a Muslim majority.  The world
agrees that India is a fair country and the world knows what Pakistan
did to its fellow Muslims in Bangladesh.

>Now surprisingly we find the exact situation in Spain. The same 
>country used to have muslims rule and in that rule we find no
>muslim-xtians tussle. But when xtians took over the charge they
>killed each and every muslim there just like they are killing 
>muslims in Bosnia. The president of France has already announced
>that Europe must be devoid of any muslim country.
>
>
>If you please answer me the following questions .
>
>India can have nuclear weapons but Pakisatan cannot
>Israel can have nuclear weapons but Iraq cannot 
>South Africa can have nuclear weapons but Sudan cannot
>Why ?
>West is helping dying people in Somalia but why the same
>is blind over the massacre of people in Bosnia ? 

What is wrong with you dude?  When has the West said that it is OK
for India to have nuclear weapons.
>
>>
>>
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>Mustafa Ibrahim 

Manoj
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