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From: v065nlpz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amil)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: pRINCE
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:27:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct14.172118.10968@alf.uib.no>, ip234@brems.ii.uib.no (Morten Hoff) writes...
> 
> 
>Well, I think Love Symbol misses some of the good ol' Prince sound,
>the sound nobody but Prince could make. It's allright to dance to, but I think
>a lot of other artists could have made the same stuff just as well.
>I've got all Prince's albums, and I don't think he is as good as he used to be.
>I liked the pre-NPG sound better. 
> 

	Its definately not the same as his older stuff.  But thats what is
so great about Prince is that he keeps changing.  Never the same sounding 
shit.  _The Black Album_ and _Purple Rain_ are definately his two best,
but I still love the new albums because they tend to leave that mainstream
pop sound for something much funkier.

	Oh, and I see inside the album it says "dont buy the black album!"
in the faded gray background writing.  Im surprised Prince let it get to
him.  He should do like BDP and just release the fuckin thing (seeing as
how its the biggest selling bootleg album ever)!

				Anyway..............Peace-out,

								aMIL
From: pharvey@mipos3.intel.com (Paul Harvey)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Quote from movie preview.
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:36:02 GMT
Organization: you want rent money, i got pimp money, one things for sure i won't give it to a ...

In article <15OCT199213511318@mars.lerc.nasa.gov> 
seove@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (ERIC OVERTON) writes:
>I saw a movie preview where a boy was asked what type of
>music he liked and he responded, "Rap".  The man asked, "Why Rap?"
>The boy said,  "[Rap] [addresses] the common mans struggle 
>for survival in a hostile society."
>Interesting.
>Peace.

That's the chosen people connection. Peace, but not without equal rights and 
justice. Jah! Ras TafarI!
From: superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: alt.rap
Date: 14 Oct 92 11:41:32 GMT
Reply-To: superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand)
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, SWEDEN


 Well wasn't this an interesting post. Full of crazy assumptions and
 strange comparisons. Reply to her via e-mail unless you have something
 interesting to say. It has not gone one week since the last "I-hate-rap" post
 arrived and I cant stand another flame war to someone never returning to
 this newsgroup again. I'll try to educate her with an e-mail letter :)
-- 
********************The revolution will not be computerized*******************
name:Palle Zetterstrand			      e-mail:superfly@etek.chalmers.se
no future without a past"..."There is no future without a past"..."There is no
From: fedde@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: New Music List
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:33:21 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
NNTP-Posting-Host: minsk.docs.uu.se

ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

>    Compton's Most Wanted, No Title ()

The title is "Music To Driveby" and the album is great!

--
Fedde (fedde@bern.docs.uu.se)
From: v065nlpz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amil)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: pRINCE
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:57:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Aer5VSS00awF43elcL@andrew.cmu.edu>, mc78+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Anthony Carnevale) writes...
>Amil writes:
> 
>>	Has anyone heard that new Prince album yet?  Its not hip-hop,
>>but its not bad.  Its right along the lines of _Diamonds And Pearls_,
>>but is a lot funkier and has more rap tied into it.  
>>	The rap is done by members of the N.P.G. and is in that melodic,
>>Prince fasion, so dont expect much there.  And there are a few samples
>>he uses in his songs, like one by Eric B. and Rakim, and one by N.W.A.
>>(from _NIGGAZ4LIFE_).  They're hard to pick up, but enough to credit in
>>the liner notes.
>>	If you like Prince, like I do this, this album is a slammin'!
>>Personally, I think he's a "musical genius, man"!  
>>
>>	Anyway, back to the hip-hop................................aMIL
> 
>I just picked it up yesterday, and it's back to the old style.  Talking
>about using big samples, on his song "7" if you listen closely, or read
>the liner notes, he samples the baseline from Lowell Fulson's "Tramp." 
>Damn, that has got to be the sample of the past two years, as was
>discussed this past weekend. 
> 
>-Mc

	
	You're right.  I think it works really well with Prince, too.  If
it was a rap artist, he or she would be under more critisism for the 
sample, but since Prince rarely ever uses samples, it okay.  The more
I listen to the album, the more I like it.

							aMIL
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From: balbondj@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Dah Man)
Subject: Re: Music
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:20:55 GMT

>Professor X doesn't quite have it.  I think the rhymes are technically
>okay, but they just don't come off when he does them.  Brother J, on
>the the other hand, could come off reciting the pledge of allegience
>backwards in german.

>--
>Peace.
>                    "It's not denial...  I'm just very selective 
>                     about the reality I accept."
>                              -Calvin
>                                   -\--/-
>    Don't just adopt opinions     |  \/  |       Some of you are homeboys
>          develop them.           |  /\  | but only I am The Homeboy From hell
>                                   -/--\-

      Brother J is dope, but I like the way Professor X sounds.
      He adds a dimension to the Clan's songs that make them standout.

          That's Just The Way I Feel.
                                   
                        -DAh maN     ddah Man
From: fedde@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Rap sucks balls
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:27:36 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
NNTP-Posting-Host: minsk.docs.uu.se

jwilson@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:

>DJ Phyz

Da Phyz is back! :) Hey, Gee...we thought you might had been taken under by
the hood :)

--
Fedde (fedde@bern.docs.uu.se)
From: seove@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (ERIC OVERTON)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Quote from movie preview.
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:51:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I saw a movie preview where a boy was asked what type of
music he liked and he responded, "Rap".  The man asked, "Why Rap?"
The boy said,  "[Rap] [addresses] the common mans struggle 
for survival in a hostile society."

Interesting.

Peace.
From: kgatlin@zeus.calpoly.edu (Kang Su Gatlin)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Hip Hop Questions....
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:25:01 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

In article <balbondj.719076283@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> balbondj@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Dah Man) writes:
>crafts@athena.mit.edu (The Invisible Man) writes:
>
>>What singles would you all classify as being hip-hop classics? I'd vote for...
>
>>"My philosophy" by Boogie Down Productions
>    Soon to be a classic,  "The P is for Free" or "The Bridge is Over" are 
>    BDP Classics.
	You gotta add "Criminal Minded" to this also.

>>"Bring the Noise" by Public Enemy
>  
>>"Rebel Without a Pause" by Public Enemy
>
>   Both of these PE songs are classics or will be so soon.
>
>>"Fight the Power" by Public Enemy
>   Still too new
>>"Peter Piper" by Run DMC
>   Any thing off the "Raising Hell" album and before it is classic.
>>"Go Stetsa part 1" by Stetsasonic
>>"Children's Story" by Slick Rick
>>"Roxanne, Roxanne" by UTFO
>    Classic
>>"La Di Da Di" by Doug E Fresh and Slick Rick
>    Classic
>
>>"I ain't no joke" by Eric B and Rakim
>>"Eric B for President" by Eric B and Rakim
>     Anything before "Follow the Leader is a Definite classic.
	I'd also say "Microphone Fiend" is a classic.

	My additions to the list would consist of the following later hits:

"Dopeman" by NWA.
"Boyz N the Hood" by Eazy E or NWA.
"Aein't No Half Steppin'" by Big Daddy Kane
"Ring'em" M.C. Hammer (and if any of someone tries to dis you must not
remember).
"Freaky Tales" by Too Short
"You Gotsto Chill"  EPMD.  (It's called somethin' like that).
"I Got it Made" by Special Ed.

there's many others but I'm in a class and can't go on Forever.
>
>>Danny
>>The invisible man
>
>
>
>                                 DAh maN
>
KSG ...
From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Why is rap music in commercials always lame?
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:12:04 GMT
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <1992Oct10.003018.17290@news.media.mit.edu>, ereidell@media.mit.edu (Evan A. Reidell) writes:
>Whenever you hear rap in a commercial, usually aimed at little kids and
>in some cheezy public service announcement, the rhythm is always dead
>and lacking in attitude, the rapper sucks, the rhymes are contrived.
>I suppose I should be happy about this, keeping quality rap out of
>commercials, but why do you suppose this is true?  Does being an ad
>executive automatically prevent you from producing a rap with good
>flavor?
>

I think that television commercials are one of if not the biggest exploiters of
rap music today.  The only fairly legit commercial I can remember seeing that
used rap was the Charles Barkley Nike commerical with Chuck D rhyming on it. 
That beat was pretty fat, and the lyrics were pretty good.  Oh, there was a 
Converse commercial with Magic Johnson some time back that I thought had a dope
beat, but I don't remember anything anout lyrics.  I think part of it is
because they RARELY use legitimate rappers in the commercials.  The ones that
use "legitimate" rappers usually come off pretty well: the Nike one with Chuck,
the Van Grack commercial with Craig G(and I think they have a new one now with
another rapper, but those commercials are not aimed at little kids, and are
usually only shown on cable channels such as BET), but one exception to this is
and I think just about everyone will agree with me, THAT BULLSHIT POLLY-O
COMMERCIAL WITH DADDY-O RAPPING OUT OF THE MOUTH OF A BIRD!!  THAT SHIT WAS
DISGRACEFUL!!!  Personally, I would have been ashamed to do some shit like 
that.  I mean, considering that he wasn't even seen, I know he didn't get paid
THAT much for it!

K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions
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From: sven@stud.cs.uit.no (Sven Jonsson)
Subject: Paris
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:07:41 GMT

I heard some dope rhymes some time ago by someone called
Paris. Can anyone tell me the titles of the albums Paris
has released.
Thanks,
5000

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From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: G-boys wanted
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:02:16 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.132207.11989@htsa.aha.nl>, dannyd@htsa.aha.nl (Danny Dreves) writes:
>Hi outhere .I'm a true rap fan from holland and i'm seeking for
>the first one or two albums from the Geto Boys.I heard that they 
>have made one or two albums before the one whith FUCK'EM and
>READ THESE NIKES.If someone could tell me how to
>get them or give me the titles then i would be HAPPY.
>By the way,I'm also looking for the first album from
>TOO $HORT,the one with the track DOPE FIEND BEAT .
>Oh I almost forgot,does anybody know something about a BDP album before
>CRIMINAL MINDED? (I think they did it with ERIK B & RAKIM).
>THANKS.
>

Well, before BDP became BDP, they were called 12:15 and had a track out on
Sleeping Bag Records (called, "Success Is The Word," or something like that). 
I don't believe their was an album though.  Also, KRS said that they used to be
on Zakia Records, which at the same time was also the home of Eric B. & Rakim. 
But, I don't believe they ever worked together.  After BDP left B-Boy Records
and Scott LaRock was killed, B-Boy released a double album set with a bunch of
BDP remixes that included, "Advance," and, "D-Nice Rocks The House," (Same
lyrics as, "They Call Me D-Nice," with different music).  The set is called,
"Man & His Music," and has Scott LaRock on one side, and him & KRS on the
other.  This was, of course, after CRIMINAL MINDED.

                                                    T-Dub
                                                    SHYGUY productions


                                               
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: atb@whomp.engin.umich.edu (Adrian Bradley)
Subject: Re: Hip Hop Questions....
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 17:30:40 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: atb@whomp.engin.umich.edu


In article <XJAM.92Oct14120712@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU>, xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer) writes:
> >>>>> "Dan" == The Invisible Man <crafts@athena.mit.edu> writes:
> 
>   Dan> What singles would you all classify as being hip-hop classics? I'd vote for...
> 
>   Dan> "My philosophy" by Boogie Down Productions
> Possibly, but "Poetry" is the definitive BDP cut.
> 
>   Dan> "Bring the Noise" by Public Enemy
>   Dan> "Rebel Without a Pause" by Public Enemy
>   Dan> "Fight the Power" by Public Enemy
> 
> I'd swap "Don't Believe the Hype" for "Bring the Noise" and add "Welcome to
> the Terrordom".
> 
>   Dan> "Peter Piper" by Run DMC
> 
> Add in a couple of Whodini tracks for good effect "Five Minutes of Funk"
> and "Freaks Come Out At Night" being my faves.
> 
>   Dan> "Go Stetsa part 1" by Stetsasonic
>   Dan> "Children's Story" by Slick Rick
>   Dan> "Roxanne, Roxanne" by UTFO
> 
> These are all middling to me. "Roxanne, Roxanne" launched a thousand
> imitators but let's face it, it was a weak track.
> 
>   Dan> "La Di Da Di" by Doug E Fresh and Slick Rick
> 
> Definitely.
> 
>   Dan> "I ain't no joke" by Eric B and Rakim
>   Dan> "Eric B for President" by Eric B and Rakim
> 
> Swap "I Ain't No Joke" for "My Melody". 
> 
> I'd also have to add:
> Ice Cube	"Jackin for Beats"
> Ice Cube	"Amerikka's Most Wanted"
> Gangstarr	"Who's Gonna Take the Weight"
> Biz Markie	"Nobody Beats the Biz"
> LL Cool J	"Rock the Bells"
> Run-DMC		"Rockbox"
> Run-DMC		"Sucker MCs"
> NWA		"Gangsta, Gangsta"
> Big Daddy Kane	"Raw"
> Big Daddy Kane	"Ain't No Half Steppin"
> EPMD		"Strictly Business"
> EPMD		"You a Customer"
> Brand Nubians	"Slow Down"
> Digital Underground 	"The Humpty Dance"
> The Soulsonic Force	"Planet Rock"

And for the Miami/Orlando Bass War's scene, add: 

Magic Mike - "Feel The Bass"
MC Chazzy Chess - "Boot the Booty"
2 Live Crew - "Mr Mixx on the Mix" (well, at least *I* like it... d:-) )

==AD

PS: Peace out to D.I.P., Phyz, C.O.R.E. and true lovers of hip-hop... 
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: cs201127@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs201127)
Subject: Re: B-Boys Jimmy James
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:38:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.044654.3072@cs.mcgill.ca> casey@cs.mcgill.ca (Kallol DAS) writes:
>Well the Beasties are coming to Montreal I think on the 3rd Nov. but the
>problem for me is... I don't know anyone else who likes them!
>Seriously!  I'm tryin to bug a couple of friends of mine who are into
>rap but not into BB's to go but ...
>
>Also, is it just me or is 'Check Your Head' just MUCH better than
>'Paul's Boutique'??  Actually Paul's Boutique was my *first* CD.
>
>
>
>				casey@cs.mcgill.ca
>				.
>

I don't know if I am alone in thinking this but I thought that Paul's Botique
was SLAMMIN'!  The whole LP is cool, expecially the last track 'B-Boy
Bouillabaisse'.

On my quest to find EVERY single that the B-Boys have released I found a single
called 'Frozen Metal' on a list in an independant cd store.  I ordered it but 
the guy that owned the store had no information on it.  Does anyone out there
know when it was released?

If anyone has any information on anything that the Boys have released, leave me
some mail or post it on here.

-Jay

Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: cs201127@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs201127)
Subject: Re: B-Boys Jimmy James
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:11:01 GMT

In article <m2JHsB1w164w@dvss.UUCP> dvss!jtroy@udel.edu (Jay Troy) writes:
>
>
>Anyone heard the CD single w/Hendrix?
>
>Dope or no?
>
>
>
> Jay Troy        Delaware Valley Solution Systems, Inc.
>                 Computing Solutions for Business and Industry
>                 P.O. Box 190 // Claymont, DE 19703 // (302)798-DVSS
>                 Internet: ...!udel.edu!dvss!jtroy (jtroy@dvss.UUCP)
>--

     If you are a hard core B-Boy fan, you'll love the Jimmy James single.  
There are 3 versions of Jimmy James, the Maestro, and two previously unreleased
songs:  Boomin' Granny and Drinkin' Wine.  BTW, all of the singles that were
released on the 'Check Your Head' album so far have had unreleased stuff on
them.  There are 5 tracks so far and if I am not mistaken, there is another
single on the way.  Does anyone have any information on this?

-Jay

Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: crafts@athena.mit.edu (The Invisible Man)
Subject: Hip Hop Questions....
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 05:40:40 GMT

Which artist has the record for the most guest shots with other artists be they
rappers or otherwise? I think Heavy D has the record having performed with the
following groups:

Biz Markie in "We write the songs"
LeVert in "Just Coolin"
Janet Jackson in "Alright"
Michael Jackson in "Jam"
Super Cat in "Dem no worry we"

What singles would you all classify as being hip-hop classics? I'd vote for...

"My philosophy" by Boogie Down Productions
"Bring the Noise" by Public Enemy
"Rebel Without a Pause" by Public Enemy
"Fight the Power" by Public Enemy
"Peter Piper" by Run DMC
"Go Stetsa part 1" by Stetsasonic
"Children's Story" by Slick Rick
"Roxanne, Roxanne" by UTFO
"La Di Da Di" by Doug E Fresh and Slick Rick
"I ain't no joke" by Eric B and Rakim
"Eric B for President" by Eric B and Rakim

Finally whatever happened to.....?
Cash Money and Marvelous.
DJ K La Boss
Stezo
Ice Cream Tee
Joeski Love
UTFO
Kurtis Blow ????
The DOC !

Any additions corrections deletions?

Bring the Noise,

Danny
The invisible man
From: fedde@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Lench Mob --Guerillas in tha mist
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:41:50 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
NNTP-Posting-Host: minsk.docs.uu.se

After beeing listening to Da Lench Mob for days to let it grow in me, I
am stil not sure about what I think of it. I would like to know what others
thought of this one...I am just very close to beeing disappointed and I
stil really don't know why...please drop some lines in an article! :)

--
Fedde (fedde@bern.docs.uu.se)
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From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Generic Shit
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:33:20 GMT

In article <92281.112845U14864@uicvm.uic.edu>, Tyrone Ellison <U14864@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Last Poets (or was it Gil Scott Heron)
>go on record in the Source and say that they did NOT want to be sampled?... I
>was just wondering...
>
>Peace out...

It was Gil Scott Heron who said that in The Source; "Just Leave My S**T
Alone..."

                                           T-Dub
                                           SHYGUY productions

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From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: New Music List
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:19:10 GMT

Some mor info on the original post...

CMW - "Music To Driveby" - available now
Shabba Ranks - "Xtra Naked" - available now
Shinehead - "Sidewalk University" - available now
Diamond & The Psychotic Neurotics - available now

K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions
From: v065m89r@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Keith P McCartney)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: A Beat...
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:29:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

This has been buggin' me for the longest time now...
There is this beat in Ice Cube's _Jackin' for Beats_ that I have
wanted to know the origin to for the longest time...
It comes after Cube says...(In the beginning of the third verse)
"I take a funky beat and reshape it...Locate a dope break and then 
I break it..."...Then the beat comes in...
It was also used by XCLAN on the XODUS tape in the song _Holy Rum
Swig_...
Anybody know where the beat came from?
If ya do, post it for me...
					Peace...
					  Pooky
				I'm The Wrong Pooky To F*ck With...
From: simon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Patrice A. Simon)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Cypress Hill
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:09:12 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Oct7.182903.7749@ultb.isc.rit.edu> klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>And I don't think that would have came out if they hadn't had that "Hot Sex"
>track on the "Boomerang" soundtrack.  "The One" had like 20+ songs on it, and
>only 4 12"(US).  What about the other 16 some odd songs?  Isn't the purpose
>of 12" suppose to be to promote album sales?  Wouldn't it logically follow
>that more 12"s will promote mor album sales?  Any opinions?
>
>K-Mello
>SHYGUY Productions

	I can only think of a few other tracks on "The One" that had 12" 
potential. Plus, if you suppose that each 12" "lives" for about 3 months on 
the charts, four singles could last one year. As an artist, I doubt I would
still be interested in promoting/remixing singles over a year old...Hip hop
is still going through phases quickly. Within the last year, we've gone
from Cypress Hill to Black Sheep to A Tribe Called Quest to L.O.N.S. to
FU-Schnickens to DAS-EFX to House of Pain to Pete Rock/C.L. Smooth to Eric B
& RAkim to EPMD to (yeah, I could go on forever)...it is time for a new album
from the first 3 at least (doesn't Black Sheep have a new album expected too?)
Also remember that the time an album is preppared to the time it ships could
run over four years (De La Soul and Arrested Development) By the time we hear
it, they're ready for a new album...I say keep it comin'!



-- 
Patrice Simon
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