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From: bottom@hawk1.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Gravis Ultrasound Daily Digest
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:57:10 GMT
Reply-To: hedron::daveb
Organization: ASO IM operations


As a normal usenet reader how can I get access to Gravis' Daily Digest? I'm
looking into getting one of these and would like to see what's going on
with the digest. I also have a couple of questions:

Gravis told me on the phone that the MIDI interface would support windows
midid applications in "the near future". No other information was available
from the person I talked to. Does anyone know what midi software they might
support? I'm particularly interested in running something like Cakewalk pro and
Cool shoes Drummer software.

Other impressions of the Gravis, sounds, ease of installation/setups etc. are
very welcome.

thanks

--
/dave

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Recording Off an 8ohm Spkr Output
Followup-To: rec.music.makers,rec.music.makers.guitar
Date: 4 Jan 1993 04:24:06 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: mulka.ph.unimelb.edu.au
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]


	more often than not if an amp is used in the
studio - it simply miked up (ie a microphone in front of it).
In anotha room is advisable to avoid unwanted noise.
	CE
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: tim@unislc.uucp (Tim Morrison)
Subject: Wanted: GK RFG5 Footswitch
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:26:15 GMT

I'm desparately trying to find a Gallien-Krueger RFG5 footswitch.
Any info would be greatly appreciated. Please call or email me.

Thanks,

Tim
801-594-4769
email: tim@unislc.slc.unisys.com

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: medwards@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Matt Edwards)
Subject: Re: Drum Machine for sale 
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:05:25 GMT


 
For sale:
 
Korg DDD-1 Programmable Drum machine
Original Manual
5 Sound Cards
Sampler Extension Module
 
$250.00 obo
 
Send e-mail to medwards@qualcomm.com if interested.
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: info RQ: 4-track recording: trumpet 
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 02:17:51 GMT


Hello,

I've aquired a 4-track recently & have been trying to get a decent
sound down onto cassette with zero success. All I have managed so far
is a tinny vibrato laden farting type sound.

Any help on technique etc welcome. This is what I have used so far.

trumpet -> Shure sm57->Carlsoboro 90-> little reverb -> 4 track

trumpet -> Shure sm57 ->4 track

I have a cheap EQ pedal but haven't had time to experiment properly yet.
The amp EQ was left untouched.

Thanks in advance,

brian
--
| Brian.May@mel.dit.csiro.au |           Open Systems Program           |
| CSIRO/DIT, 723 Swanston st | TEL +61 3 282 2613 -- FAX +61 3 282 2600 |
|Carlton, VIC 3053, Australia|          Experimental Scientist          |
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From: gordie@kaleida.com (Gordie Freedman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.marketplace,rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Stuff for sale
Date: 24 Dec 92 01:03:43 GMT
Reply-To: gordie@kaleida.com
Followup-To: alt.flame
Organization: Happy hacker bait and tackle shop

This is for a friend, please reply to him via the phone number given, thanks.

Contact Drew Youngs in Palo Alto, CA (415) 856 6909 for the following:

Roland MKS20 Digital piano module $500

Yamaha TX-7 tone module $250

Ampex Half TrackAG440 in original cabinet $600


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Gordie Freedman: gordie@kaleida.com Sigs are for kids
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: srfergu@rufus.erenj.com (Scott Ferguson)
Subject: Re: ==> +30db GAIN Circuit for Your Guitar: $25 <==
Organization: Exxon Research & Engineering Co.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 14:36:22 GMT

I was building a 9-volt preamp for my accoustic-electric, which was putting
out REALLY low signal. It was so low that I couldn't use it. You'd turn mixing
board gain up so high that if you scratched your butt, the static discharge
would nearly blow the cones right out of the speakers. Anyway:

I tried using some standard op amps I had laying around, like the LM324 quad,
and had no luck. I tried all kinds of gains, up into the thousands, with
no luck.

Then I tried the simplest thing of all, an LM386 1/2-watt audio power amp
and two coupling capacitors. I used the default voltage gain of 20, and lo and
behold I've got great signal coming from my guitar. I suppose that means that
the op amp has to be capable of delivering current, and the 324 just wasn't
suited for it. So, power delivery is more important than a huge gain.
So now it's velcroed into the body and has been running fine since. I worried
about battery drain, but with the switching jack I threw in, the original
battery is going fine after a few months of relatively frequent use.

Anyone wanna comment, and enlighten me if I misunderstand this?

-- 
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Scott Ferguson                        Exxon Research & Engineering Co.
Project Engineer                      New Jersey
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"Always bark at a dog."

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From: starr@dpe.enet.dec.com (Alan Starr)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,ne.forsale,rec.music.marketplace,rec.music.synth
Subject: For Sale: 12-channel mixer, small PA, Rockman effects
Date: 29 Dec 92 17:20:39 GMT
Reply-To: starr@dpe.enet.dec.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


F O R  S A L E
--------------

Samick 12-channel mixer. Pretty nice board really - might be a touch too
noisy for some recording purposes, but perfect for live band applications.
XLR and 1/4" inputs, effects loop, monitor send, 3-band EQ (15dB cut/boost), 
trim, and pan on each channel. Prefer not to ship, but will if you'll cover 
the costs. Currently listed in American Musical Supply for $400. I'm
asking $250/bo. (Great condition, like new!)

Small PA system, consisting of Cerwin-Vega 15" cabs with a pair of Emilar
horns to go with them. This is a pretty nice setup for a small bar band or
for practice space. My band has used it exclusively for the past 6 months,
and had no problem with it, even in moderate-sized clubs. Paid $350 for them
used last spring, will take $250. (Will not ship, sorry.)

Rockman Stereo Chorus/Delay. In the latest PMI catalog, they list the Rockman
Stereo Delay at $197.95 and the Stereo Chorus at $141.95. This unit has BOTH 
of these effects!!! Asking $150/bo.


In addition to selling off these items, I'm also willing to consider items
in trade. I'm particularly looking for recording/processing gear, including
a good stereo compressor, and a multi-effects unit such as a Quadraverb or 
SPX-90II, some good mikes (Shure SM-57/SM-58 or something similar), maybe a 
Sansamp, etc.

regards,
alan

Alan Starr
starr@dpe.enet.dec.com
Digital Equipment Corp.
Tewksbury, MA 
508-858-2308 work
603-464-3878 home
From: jjh@col.hp.com (Jeff Haeffele-x3570)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Windows sequencing software wanted
Date: 23 Dec 1992 19:26:45 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: ra8.col.hp.com

stefan@sinus.stgt.sub.org (Stefan Bechtold) writes:
> 
> I'm interested in some Sequenzing software for Ms-Windows. Which
> program would you recommand ?

Cakewalk Professional for Windows
From: tmis1692@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Where is Tony MacAlpine?
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:25:22 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University

Does anyone know how I can get in touch with Tony MacAlpine?

Thanks, 

Kevin Calmes - TMIS1692@selu.edu
From: grace@cellar.org (Grace Kirkwood)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: JASS HARPIST TOUR
Date: 27 Dec 92 15:33:21 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

JAZZ HARPIST LOOKING TO TOUR EUROPE AND US

Information needed to begin this venture.
The group includes harp, bass, guitar percussion
Doing many original tunes, standards, latin, blues

LOOKING FOR SPONSORS FOR THIS PROJECT!!

THANKS
GRACE

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grace@cellar.org (Grace Kirkwood)
The Cellar BBS - (215) 539-3043
From: mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: ==> +30db GAIN Circuit for Your Guitar: $25 <==
Date: 1 Jan 93 03:35:59 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gvgspd.gvg.tek.com

In article <1992Dec30.193338.17203@csrd.uiuc.edu>
                       andrews@sp95.csrd.uiuc.edu (John Andrews) writes:

>The op amps you mentioned are for dual supplies, aren't they?  There are few
>op amps designed for a single supply.  Are you assuming that someone can
>create an artificial ground with a 9V battery and use +/- 4.5 volt "supplies"?
>How well would this work?

It works quite well!  Here's a suitable circuit that Mike McTigue
(mikem@col.hp.com) posted here on rec.music.makers on 11 Apr 91 that
demonstrates this technique:

              1M ohm             1M ohm
       +9v---\/\/\/--------O-----\/\/\/---gnd
                           |
         from              |
        pickup             /
        switch       500k  \
            |        ohm   /        +9v
            |              \     |\  |
     250k   \              |   3 | \ |
      vol   / <------||----O-----|+ \|7
      pot   \       .1 uF        |   \
            /                    | u1 \_____o------\/\/\/----||----->
            |                  2 |    / 6   |        50      1uF     to
            |             o------|-  /      |       ohms            cable
           gnd            |      |  /|4     |
                          |      |/  |      |
                          |         gnd     |
                          |                 |
                          o-----------------o


  u1  LT1012  uPower op amp or other low noise low power op amp

This circuit doesn't create an artificial ground, rather the 1M and 500K
resistors bias the portion inside the capacitors to half of the supply
potential.  The 0.1 uF capacitor prevents this bias from causing a DC current
in the volume pot, and the 1 uF capacitor restores the output signal to 0
volts DC.

Note that this is a noninverting voltage follower with a voltage gain of 1,
or 0 dB.

-- 
============================================================================
Michael Kesti  Grass Valley Group, Inc. | "And like, one and one don't make
    mrk@gvgspd.GVG.TEK.COM              |  two, one and one make one."
    !tektronix!gvgpsa!gvgspd!mrk        |         - The Who, Bargain
From: faulkner@acsu.buffalo.edu (Shane P Faulkner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: WANTED: Eric Johnson ACL
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:18:21 GMT
Organization: UB

Desperately seeking Eric Johnson's first Austin City Limits appearance, which
I believe aired in 1985.

For trade, I can offer Eric's second ACL appearance or a myriad of Rush and/or
Marillion artifacts, or cash if necessary.

Please reply via e-mail.  Thanks.

-Shane
--
faulkner@acsu.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: markf@sco.COM (mark forry)
Subject: Re: Laryngitis
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:51:40 GMT


In article <1992Dec18.153626.29672@tigger.jvnc.net> steve@imix.Cyanamid.COM writes:
>
>Anyone out there suffered from laryngitis?  Any experiences to share about
>how to get over it?  Home remedies?  Vocal exercises?  How long does it 
>take to get over?  

Hot lemonade with massive amounts of garlic and ginger helped me
squeak through a few must-sing situations.  Otherwise, rest and
de-stress are the only obvious and ultimately effective cures.
-- 
Mark Forry                He already had his suspicion that what people 
Technical Publications    called growing up was ... being educated out of
The Santa Cruz Operation  reality, above all the great invisible realities
uunet!sco!markf           which matter so much more to a young person ...
markf@sco.COM                        -- Lawrence van der Post
(408) 427-7509            Standard disclaimers apply.
From: jpmakela@klaava.Helsinki.FI (J Pekka Makela)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Windows sequencing software wanted
Date: 23 Dec 92 21:39:37 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Jeff Haeffele-x3570 (jjh@col.hp.com) wrote:
> stefan@sinus.stgt.sub.org (Stefan Bechtold) writes:
> > 
> > I'm interested in some Sequenzing software for Ms-Windows. Which
> > program would you recommand ?
> 
> Cakewalk Professional for Windows


...and if you are on a bit tighter budget, there's a PD program called
   WinJammer. I've just downloaded it and by the first look, it seems
   reasonably nice. The registration fee is $50.
-- 
jP M{kel{ ({'s are a's with umlauts)			jpmakela@cc.Helsinki.fi
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From: dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Subject: Re: What's an Oberheim Expander?
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:51:31 GMT

In article <bryanc-221292121324@137.79.108.186> bryanc@stargate.jpl.nasa.gov (Bryan S. Campbell) writes:
>
>
>    Please excuse my ignorance, but I'd like some technical info on the
>Oberheim Expander.  Someone told me it's a modern Analog synth, which
>interests me greatly...  Could you perhaps give me such info as how many
>VCO's it has, what it sounds like, it's capabilities, etc... 

	Oy, there's so much to tell.  I'm too busy right now to tell you, but
if no one else replies, email me after Friday.

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From: nunis@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Simon NUNIS)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 06:25:07 GMT
Subject: SR16 and MIDI
Organization: HP Singapore Notes-Server
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth

hi everyone.

i recently bought an Alesis SR-16 and am very happy with it except for the
fact that i can't get it to respond to MIDI properly.  i have the following
setup:

channel 11
drum in v1
drum out off
clock in off
clock out off
pgm chg off
midi thru on
drum map 00-09

here are the connection stats:

      roland u20    (out)------->(in) pc
                    (in) <-------(out)

                    (thru)------>(in) sr16  (thru)------->(in) midiverb3

well, basically, i use the u20 to control the sr16...wanna be able to use
the sr16 as a drum expander.  what happens is that for every 10 notes i
send to the sr16, only 4 or 5 will sound correctly.  the others just 
either remain quiet or sound the wrong note...any ideas?

please post or email.

thanks.

simon.
From: p1g7@i31s25.ira.uka.de (Prakt. Dialogsysteme)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Looking for Ensoniq SQ1 patches
Date: 21 Dec 1992 13:24:33 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: i31s25.ira.uka.de


Is there anybody who knows were one can get Ensoniq SQ1/SQR patches?
I know that there are some ftp hosts (e.g uscd.edu [128.54.16.1] )
do have a directory /pub/patches/SQ1 but there is nothing inside.


Artur Brauer	brauer@fzi.de
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From: Scott.E.Lawrence@dartmouth.edu (Scott E. Lawrence)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth,rec.music.synth,misc.forsale
Subject: SALE!Mackie1202,CM-32L,rackstand,MPU-IMC
Date: 2 Jan 93 03:34:48 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0b1@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Ok, I have the following for sale:

Mackie 1202 Mixer                  $300
CM-32L (Like MT-32 but more)       $250
MPU-IMC(midi interface for MCA)    $250  w/ Texture 4.0  325
Son of F/X stand                   $100

Please reply to Scott_Lawrence@Dartmouth.edu if interested.  Short
messages please...I'm a busy student.  All items in great shape, all
with original boxes and manuals (except the stand).  All prepay plus
shipping or if you really have a problem with this, we can talk. 
Thanks for your time.

Descriptions:

Mackie 1202 Mixer
-12 channel line mixer - 4 mono and 4 stereo channels
-gain adjust, XLR (with phantom power), insert  -  each on mono ins
1-4.
-1/4" in, 2 mono sends, hi and low eq, pan, volume - each on ALL
channels.
-Stereo tape in and out (RCA).
-2 stereo returns with adjustable volumes.
-Main, and headphone outs and volume.
-Small, original box and manual, NO scratches, no nicks, bought in
March 92, -not heavily used, SUPERB SOUND and FLEXIBILITY.

CM-32L Sound Module
-32 voice.
-multitimbral.
-same as MT-32 but with Latin Percussion and a few more sounds.
-Perfect starting piece for those interested in electronic music and
computers.
-Original box and manual, great condition.

MPU-IMC Midi Interface for Micro Channel PS/2's
-MPU-401 compatible and works!!
-uses one card slot
-has external midi in/out thru metronome out box...I think it may have
FSK so if that's of a concern to you, I'll check (It's in my home, I'm
at school)
-great shape, barely been used (about 4 months)
-I'll sell it with Texture 4.0 for $325

Son of F/X rack stand
-10 space rack on bottom with two tiltable shelves above.
-Sturdy wheels.
-Great for rack stuff and placing a computer on top with small mixer on
second shelf.
-All bolts included.
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: rmartin@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Martin)
Subject: MKS50? What is it (a juno?)
Summary: MKS 50 what is it? (a juno?)
Keywords: MKS50 synth digital analog
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 06:44:29 GMT

I have a chance to get an MKS50, but know very little about it.  I beleive
it has DCO's, VCF's and VCA's, but am not positive.  Does it have resonant
filters, what types of waveforms.  Whats the sound like.

Any info would be appreciated......

thanks in advance


me and my 'four-line' .sig

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NOISE.       . .   .. .   .   . .   . .. . . . ..N...O...I...S...E...
............   . .    . . . .   . .    .   .   .....................
                 .      .   .     .   industrial_Martin@UManitoba.CA.
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: john@us2.sqi (John)
Subject: "piano lesson" software
Reply-To: john@us2.sqi
Organization: Siemens - Quantum Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:45:18 GMT


Does anyone know of any software-only packages that teach basic piano and keyboard
skills that will run on a PC with a generic MIDI card and MIDI keyboard?  This
would be a software-only version of the MIRACLE (tm)?

// John Lazenby // john@sqi.com
From: knutsen@pilot.njin.net (Mark Knutsen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Q: Standard MIDI playback boxes.
Date: 3 Jan 93 21:48:14 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Whomever can answer, please do: Does anyone besides Roland make a box
(a la Sound Brush) that plays back Standard MIDI files?  I'd like to
consider one for performance uses.

If there really is a variety of choices, any recommendations?

-- 
===============================================================================
Mark Knutsen, NOW located in Huntington, CT.  Same old email address:
knutsen@pilot.njin.net OR knutsen@pilot.rutgers.edu OR {...}!rutgers!knutsen
From: ry29@rz70.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Eiboeck / Zetzmann)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: Mac IIvx MIDI problems?
Date: 21 Dec 1992 19:36:16 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Reply-To: ry29@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: rz70.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de


I have a IIvx at home and a Yamaha SY99. Midi interface is an Opcode STudio3.
I work with Alchemy, Vision, Cubase and Galaxy and have had no problems until
now. I heared about the problems also discussed in comp.sys.mac.hardware but
I cannot confirm it. They say that sample dumps longer than 3 minutes will fail
but they work fine for me. \
The biggest problem I think is: Digidesign refuses to support the vx until
Apple fixed the problem *whatever it may be*.

So long...
holgi.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: gibian@talent.ljo.dec.com (Marc S. Gibian)
Subject: Re: Does anyone have anything BAD to say about the K2000?
Reply-To: gibian@ljohub.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:02:44 GMT


The last two postings on this topic are interesting.  I'll see what
I can do with them.  And yes, I agree the K2000 is a tad bit more
advanced.  It only causes me to wonder why such a fundimental feature
of the early synthesizers is missing from such a wonderful instrument?
--
Marc S. Gibian			email: gibian@talent.ljo.dec.com
Principal Software Engineer	phone: (508) 486-6598
Digital Equipment Corporation	fax:   (508) 486-6648  or (508) 486-6100
From: ibhan@husc10.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: Mac IIvx MIDI problems?
Date: 23 Dec 92 04:37:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc.ibhan.725085440

cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk (Nick Rothwell) writes:

>This probably won't get to you in time, but: if you want a decent MIDI
>machine, go for an SE/30 or a IIci or something. I wouldn't trust any of
>Apple's newer machines.

Oh, come on.  This is just stupidity.  I, for one, am very happy with my
PowerBook Duo 230.  It works fine with MIDI in a senses (sysex as well as
normal sequencing).
-- 
               -  Ishir Bhan -  ibhan@husc.harvard.edu  - 
                                     - - - 
           "The sky and the impossible explode..." -The Cure
From: claude@cse.ucsc.edu (Claude Noshpitz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: wanted - M1 Patches, info on M1+, SoundCanvas
Date: 25 Dec 92 08:25:42 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)
NNTP-Posting-Host: lancelot.ucsc.edu


Hi - I have an M1, and am bored with the factory patches....Does anyone
have some GOOD patches for the M1, especially some rockin' sounds that
don't require all the effects going to sound good?

Also, does anyone have experience with the M1+? Is it worth the $300+
dollars to get it? What's involved with the upgrade?

Also, how does an M1/m1+ compare to a sound canvas? Should I use my
money for that instead?

				Claude
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth