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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 08:23:27 CDT
From:         "Fred Davidson, DEIL, UIUC" <DAVIDSON@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      Your Choice: ACK and REPRO

[From Fred Davidson, SLART-L Mgr.]

[Thanks to Lloyd Holliday for sorting this out...]

OK, here's the thing:  (and remember that 'commands' go to
listserv@psuvm not to slart-l@psuvm).  The command 'set slart-l ack'
causes you to get a short 3-4 line acknowledgement of having received
your post to slart-l@psuvm.  That is the system default, and if it
is not working, then you need to send the 'set slart-l ack' command.
You can also send the command 'set slart-l repro' which will cause
you to get a complete echoed copy of your post, but that creates
a *second* ACK msg.  *So..* what you *then* need to do is to
send the command 'set slart-l noack'.  Moral: if you want echoed
posts, send a simple e-mail to:

     listserv@psuvm
     listserv@psuvm.bitnet
     listserv@psuvm.psu.edu     (whichever variant works)

that says in the msg. area (not in the subject):

     set slart-l noack
     set slart-l repro

and that'll do it.  Thanks, Lloyd!  -F.D.
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Date:         Sat, 3 Oct 1992 20:10:29 MDT
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From:         SCOLEMAN@UALTAVM.BITNET
Subject:      prepositions

I would like to make contact with anyone interested in or conducting research
in the acquisition of prepositions by second language learners (in particular,
adult native speakers of English learning Spanish). I'm especially interested
in: 1) how these languages carve up space, 2) the non-spatial uses of spatial
prepositions, and 3) how second language learners break down their L1
conceptual framework, redefining semantic boundaries.
Sheryl Coleman
Dept. of Romance Languages
University of Alberta
E-mail: scoleman@vm.ucs.ualberta.ca
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:41:39 EDT
From:         Anthea Tillyer <ABTHC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Position at Georgetown
              29 Sep 1992 13:38:27 CDT from <DAVIDSON@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU>

Hi, Fred!  Glad to see you have raised your head and voice!
By the way, could be be sure to delete headers from all repostings to TESL-L
before you forward them.  This morning's was a three-way item and was rejected
by all the European nodes........It gave me 60 error messages to correct!
Peace
Anthea
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:59:30 EDT
From:         Suzanne Irujo <SED8A8N@BUACCA.BITNET>
Subject:      Request for books

If you have superfluous teacher resource books in ESL, EFL or applied
linguistics that are just cluttering up your shelves, you can put them
to good use.  For the past two summers, I have been working with a group
of extremely dedicated EFL teachers in Colombia.  They are very anxious to
keep up on recent developments in the field, but find it difficult to do
so because of the expense of importing resource books.  If you could send
unwanted but recent and usable books to the New York address below, they
will be shipped to Colombia and distributed among high school, university
and binational center libraries, where you can be sure they will be used
and greatly appreciated.

Send books to:

Library
BNC Medellin, USIS Bogota
830 Third Avenue
Brooklyn, NY 11232

For more information, contact:

Suzanne Irujo
Boston University School of Education
605 Commonwealth Avenue
Boston, MA 02215
617-353-6294
sed8a8n@buacca (BITNET)
sirujo@acs.bu.edu (INTERNET)
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 11:00:39 CDT
From:         adcohen@STAFF.TC.UMN.EDU
Subject:      Assessing Ability in First Graders

I have gotten back into evaluating Immersion Education after almost two
decades of being removed from the field.  I am advising the Edina School
District on their French Immersion program (now K-1, 100 kids at each grade
level).  They would like to assess the general ability of their first
graders.  Any suggestions as to a good testing instrument for doing this?
I would be most appreciative for any and all suggestions.


--
DR. ANDREW D. COHEN
ESL, 126 Klaeber Ct, U of Minnesota, 320 16th Ave SE, Mpls, MN 55455
Tel: 612-624-3806/Fax: 612-625-2312/NEW e-mail: adcohen@staff.tc.umn.edu
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:33:10 -0400
From:         "G. Richard Tucker" <grtucker+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: e-mail Charles Stansfield

Yes, he is still there.  CAL has a general address for all individuals:

    cal@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu

You should list:

   CAL%Charlie

on the first line of the message (not in the subject line) and that may
help to  route it internally.

If that fails, you can telephone (202-429-9292) or fax (202-659-5641).

Dick Tucker
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:26:00 -0400
From:         "(Leland Emerson McCleary)" <mccleary@CAT.CCE.USP.BR>
Subject:      Re: echoed posts

I definitely vote FOR echoing posts to the sender.  Makes it much
easier to keep files.  TESL-L has the to me incomprehensible policy
of sending sender a "message received" message.  If they're going
to send a message anyway why not send THE message?

--Leland McCleary / U Sao Paulo / mccleary@cat.cce.usp.br
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:53:22 EDT
From:         Dale Lally Carnegie Language Center St Lawrence University
              <DLALLY@STLAWU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: e-mail contacts Germany

IRT e-mail contacts with students in German speaking countries, I think
a lot of teachers would be very interested in this.  Does anyone know of
an organization that would assist students/teachers to arrange e-mail
pen pals.  I would sure welcome German e-mail pen pals for my first year
students.  Any assistance appreciated!


Cordially

Dale V Lally Jr, Director
Carnegie Language Center
St. Lawrence University
Canton NY 13617
(315) 379 5857 VOICE
(315) 379 5989 FAX
DLALLY@STLAWU  BITNET
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:08:35 +1000
From:         "LLOYD HOLLIDAY, LA TROBE UNIV,
              EDUCATION" <EDULH@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: Interactive Video for ESL

NCELTR at Macquarie University in Australia have produced an interactive
video disk. I haven't seen it. In 1988 a project utilizing a video disk
of that crazy movie set in Egypt...can't think os it's name... with a
workbook etc. was demonstrated at the CALICO conference. It looked like
fun. Folks on the LLTI LIST will probably be more helpful in general about
videodisks.
Lloyd
edulh@lure.latrobe.edu.au
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:05:40 -0700
From:         MACEYTAY@ARIZVMS.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Interactive Video for ESL

May I suggest that people interested in ESL materials of whatever kind
and other ESL/ELT matters try the TESL-L list (listserv@cunyvm.bitnet)?
There are 600 or so suscribers to TESL-L, whose interests are in teaching
and learning issues, etc.

Macey Taylor   maceytay@ccit.arizona.edu
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:48:00 HKT
From:         Richard Pemberton <LCRPEM@USTHK.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Interactive Video for ESL

I presume Bill is looking for specifically ESL material and not the
ABC/Voyager/National Geographic stuff. Like him, I'd love to hear of
anything really exciting in the ESL line. The most appealing package I've
seen so far was in French (a la rencontre de Philippe) - the Athena unit at
MIT who developed it apparently have plans for an ESL program, but it may
not be ready until 1995. Gilberte Furstenberg (gfursten) or Suzanne Koons
(smkoons - both @athena.mit.edu) should be able to give you more
information. Karen Price (at ESL, 51 Brattle St, Harvard Uni, Cambridge, MA
02138) is also apparently developing some good stuff.

On the Business English side, there's the Connections range from BBC
English/Vektor, which comes at a range of levels and allows several options
(e.g. subtitles + tutorials in English/L1, hear phrases repeated by
British/American speakers, record your own voice etc.,). It looks pretty
good if you want access to authentic NS speech situations and want to
repeat/practise `modelling' at the phrase or stimulus-response level.
The drawback is that they come with a hefty price tag and they are not
nearly as involving as the MIT material - you watch situations rather than
actually taking part in them. But I suspect they're about as interactive as
you can get at the moment in the repeat and practise line.
There's an extensive backup package to go with it. Might be worth checking out
for the range of optional facilities provided. The situations look authentic
and the whole thing looks very professional. Vektor Ltd can be reached at:
        Technology House
        Lissadel St
        Salford
        England M6 6AP
        Fax: (+44) 061 745 8077

Dyned have produced a package based on the Longman `Functioning in Business'
material which is also not bad of its kind, but allows no branching and seems
to rely heavily on multiple choice questioning. Looks like we have to wait a
few years for the good stuff to arrive!

Judy Snoke mentioned an involving package produced/being developed by
IMZAT(T?) in Northern Virginia (in one scenario you give directions to the
hospital while your friend is about to give birth in the car beside you).
Anyone know details about that? It's for the Amiga, and is expensive (like the
BBC material).

Like Bill, I'd love to hear of any really good interactive ESL material.



Richard Pemberton

Language Centre,                           e-mail: lcrpem@usthk.ust.hk
Hong Kong University                               lcrpem@usthk.bitnet
of Science + Technology,                      fax: 852 335 0249
Clear Water Bay,                              tel: 852 358 7848
Kowloon, Hong Kong
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Date:         Sun, 4 Oct 1992 14:21:52 -0400
From:         listen@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU
Subject:      Re: Spanish and English syntax compared

With apologies if this has already been posted.

I just came across and advertisement for: 'BILINGUAL GRAMMAR OF
ENGLISH-SPANISH SYNTAX.' A Manual with Exercises;    Hill and Bradford;
University Press of America,  4720 Boston Way,  Lanham, MD  20706

Frank Ryan
Brown University
listen@brownvm.brown.edu
From: FACN002@SAUPM00.BITNET (Bob Hilden)
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Subject: Help with NEEDS ASSESSSMENT
Date: 3 Oct 92 01:05:23 GMT
Organization: King Fahd University of Petroleum and Minerals, S.A.
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As an important component of an evaluation of our ESL program, we will some-
time this year administer  a NEEDS ASSESSMENT. I'm hoping that the SLART-L
 membership might be able to pass on some ideas so we can avoid collecting
"data" that could be mis-applied, as it has been here in the past.

We are a science/tech university in Saudi Arabia where all instruction is in
English. Most of the non-English program instructors are themselves non-native
speakers.

Our students go through a general "Preparatory" year program, and if successful
they go into a very demanding freshmen year consisting usually of math, physics
, chemistry, Islamic studies, and Freshmen English. These English classes are,
to simplify, a semester of academic writing and another of basic report
writing. The only other English course is technical writing.

In general, the science and engineering instructors do very little with
writing; our feeling is that they feel insecure themselves and don't really
feel comfortable with it. They tend to feel, despite their own experience as
second language learners, that anything to do with language is the job of the
two English programs. Most evaluation is done with multiple choice tests. It is
 this population that will be expressing its needs, and our curriculum may
 change as a result of their response.

Specifically, I'd like to have your ideas on the following:

1. How can a needs assessment instrument or process be designed so non-English
 teachers don't simply fault programs because students "can't spell...make too
 many grammatical errors..." or give injunctions such as "Teach more grammar.."
2. Are there models of needs assessment that have worked for you?
3. How have departments prepared the university community for the assessment?
4. Just what advice would you offer, based on your knowledge and experience?

Bob Hilden
University English Program
King Fahd University of Petroleum and Minerals
Dhahran, Saudi Arabia
FACN002@SAUPM00
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:20:54 CDT
From:         "(Paula W. Sunderman)" <pws1@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Interactive Video for ESL

Could you please provide information to all members of the list
in regard to interactive video disks in Spanish, German, French
and Japanese?  I suspect there are a lot of us who could benefit
from this info.  Also, are there any specifically designed
for business Spanish, German, French or Japanese?  What systems
are needed for operation?  Thanks.

Paula Sunderman
pws1@ra.msstate.edu
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:45:00 EST
From:         RDK1@PITTVMS.BITNET
Subject:      job in Pittsburgh

The Department of Linguistics at the University of Pittsburgh invites
applications for a SINGLE tenure-track assistant professorship in
EITHER  Applied Linguistics OR Theoretical Phonology,
beginning August 1993, pending budgetary approval. Applicants
should already have a PhD or expect to have one by August 1993 and
they should be prepared to teach advanced courses in their area of
research, as well as introductory undergraduate classes in general
linguistics. We intend to hire the most qualified candidate, although
preference will be given to an applied linguist, other things being
equal.

The ideal candidate in Applied Linguistics will have a strong research
background in second language acquisition, with some degree of
statistical sophistication, interest in interdisciplinary work with
cognitive science, experience in teaching, learning, and acquiring
languages, and some computer literacy. The candidate would ideally
have a record linking research results in Applied Linguistics to
current research in theoretical syntax or phonology. The candidate
must have considerable familiarity with the basic principles and
formalisms of at least one current model of theoretical syntax or
phonology.  Preference will be given to candidates who are able to
teach courses illustrating the interaction between theoretical and
applied linguistics in one of the following areas: computer-assisted
language learning, literacy, discourse analysis, or contrastive
linguistics.

The ideal candidate in Phonology will have a strong research
background in multilinear phonology, research experience in
nonIndo-European phonologies, preferably American Indian,
and some computer literacy, the more the better.

Letters of application (including a statement of research interests)
should be sent to Prof. Richmond Thomason, Search Committee Chair,
Department of Linguistics, 2816 CL, University of Pittsburgh,
Pittsburgh, PA 15260 - thomason@pogo.isp.pitt.edu. Applicants should
also submit a current CV, one or two papers for evaluation by the Search
Committee, and have three letters of reference sent. Candidates should
also supply an email address if possible. We expect to interview
candidates at the January LSA meeting in Los Angeles, although other
interview arrangements can be made under exceptional circumstances.
Applications should arrive by December 01, 1992 and should indicate
whether or not you will be able to attend the LSA meeting.

The University of Pittsburgh is an AA/EO employer. Women and minority
candidates are encouraged to apply.
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:49:33 PDT
From:         twxie@UCDAVIS.EDU
Subject:      Listening comprehension

Does anybody know some references related to the studies of listening
comprehension? Namely, the relationship between the ability of listening
comprehension and personal variables. Any information will be appreciated.

Tim Xie
UCDavis
twxie@ucdavis.edu
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:03:03 -0700
From:         MACEYTAY@ARIZVMS.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Interactive Video for ESL

RE; USIA blackout

Yes, we've griped about not being able to get FORUM for years.  Very
odd policy.  As tax-payers, we ought to stress that the Feds could make
some money by letting us buy these items.

Macey Taylor  maceytay@ccit.arizona.edu
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:51:44 MET
From:         Jetske Folmer <JFOLMER@KUB.NL>
Subject:      Re: For New Subcribers: the welcome message

> Date:       Sun, 27 Sep 1992 08:55:39 CDT
> From:       "Fred Davidson, DEIL, UIUC" <DAVIDSON@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
> Subject:    For New Subcribers: the welcome message
> To:         davidson@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
>
>

>

>
>      signoff slart-l
>
J. Folmer    e-mail: jfolmer@kub.nl
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:13:00 EDT
From:         "Pat.Mcconeghy" <21977PMC@MSU.EDU>
Subject:      e-mail contacts Germany

Fred,

I tried typing rev slart-l (as "subject") when I sent a message to
listserv@psuvm.bitnet and all I got was 3 lines of summary output of the
server. What am I doing wrong?  I did this all through a regular e-mail
message.  Your suggestion is a good one.  I simply need to Do it!  Thanks.
PMc
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:17:38 GMT
From:         Vera Regan <VMREGAN@IRLEARN.UCD.IE>
Subject:      call for papers - EUROSLA conference

Call for papers for the Third International EUROSLA Conference,
sponsored by the European Second Language Association: June 17-20,
1993, Sofia, Bulgaria. Please submit abstracts, and future
correspondence,  to Prof. Dr. Andrei Danchev; University of Sofia;
Faculty of Classical and Modern Languages; 15 Tsar Osvoboditel
Blvd; SOFIA 1000; Bulgaria. Fax number: +359-2-463589. Telephone:
+359-2-431291.

For any further information about EUROSLA, please contact Dr. Vera
Regan; French Department; University College Dublin; Belfield,
Dublin 4; Ireland. E-mail: vmregan@irlearn.ucd.ie (internet) or
vmregan@irlearn (bitnet/earn). Fax: +353.1.2694409.

Vera Regan                   Internet: vmregan@irlearn.ucd.ie
French Department            CREN/Bitnet/Earn: vmregan@irlearn
University College Dublin    Phone: +353 1 706-8448
Belfield, Dublin 4; Ireland  Fax: +353 1 269-4409
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:10:57 MDT
From:         Chris Monikowski <cski@CARINA.UNM.EDU>
Subject:      L1 and L2

I'm not sure this is exactly what you mean...but there have been
NUMEROUS studies on levels of "intelligence" (whatever that means) and
bilingualism.  The classis is Peal and Lambert 1962. "The relations of
bilingualism to intelligence". Psychological Monographs, 76, #27.
It's a great place to start, although they don't specifically adress
proficiency (or improvements) in L1.

I'm coming at it from the other side, I think--proficiency in L1 contributes to
the potential for proficiency in L2...which is not what you're saying,
is it?  At any rate, a couple of other interesting references:

Ringbom, Hakan. 1992. "On L1 transfer in L2 comprehension and L2
production". Language Learning 42:1 (March), pp. 85-112

Olshtain, Shohamy, Kemp, and Chatow. 1990. "Factors predicting
success in EFL among culturally different learners". Language Learning
40:1 (March), pp. 23-44

good luck!
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:36:15 MST
From:         Daniel Brink <ATDXB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Interactive Video for ESL

Thanks, Gail, for the info.

Daniel Brink, Professor of English
Arizona State University, Tempe 85287-0302
602/965-4182o 602/965-3168m 602/965-2012f
Internet: ATDXB@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:45:46 -0700
From:         MACEYTAY@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject:      Re: Position at Georgetown

And this twice now.  Once is really enough.
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:17:28 +1000
From:         "LLOYD HOLLIDAY, LA TROBE UNIV,
              EDUCATION" <EDULH@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: echoed posts

Fred:

I vote yes. Unless, and I forget to do so most times, I carbon copy
to myself if I use reply to send a message to SLART I have no copy
of that message, only LISTserv's ack. I only get a copy of mail I
post if I initiate the message with "send". Hope this makes sense?

Lloyd
edulh@lure.latrobe.edu.au
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:34:36 -0500
From:         vanpatte@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      Costa Rica

We are looking into establishing a summer institute in Costa Rica that
deals with the teaching of Spanish (target participants: graduating teacher
education students).  This would be a two month seminar series that focuses
on the teaching of culture and the teaching of language.  Does anyone out
there have contacts in Costa Rica?  I need to hook up with some eager and
innovative faculty members who are interested in working with us on a
program that stresses communicative language teaching. Reply directly to
me, please. Thanks in advance!
____________________________________
Bill VanPatten
Spanish, Italian and Portuguese
University of Illinois
vanpatte@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
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