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From: chitoor@thorin.cis.udel.edu (Srikrishnan R. Chitoor)
Subject: Re: An article by Prof.Jeyaraman
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:01:21 GMT

In article <kat.727666731@ro> kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi) writes:
>In <1993Jan21.230122.26804@udel.edu> chitoor@mercury.cis.udel.edu (Srikrishnan R. Chitoor) writes:
>  I would  take  "We" as including all the right thinking
>humans.  

So anyone who disagrees with this article is a `wrong thinking' person
and you are not even going to listen to his/her argument, right ?
Such rational thinking !

>>theological schools). It is ridiculous to dismiss it if it really
>>existed. Only thing is that it should not refute the modern science but
>>can supplement it (teaching calculus and saying that we had it 2000 years
>>back really doesn't hurt). The basic thing is that we should be taught
>>our history as it is (with no bias on either side).
>
>
>   But the problem in India is not mathematics at the moment.
>If the vEdaas can teach how to rationalize and question then
>they can inclued that. People will learn mathematics after that.
>They can include if vEdaas have anything that talk about food
>production in the country. People need food, not pOli saami's 
>and self proclaimed hindu defenders.

This is another useless logic. Shall we convert all the scientists, 
industrialists, workers, politicians, artists to farmers ? That
will solve the problem. Refusing reality is not going to solve the
problem (and I assume we are interested in solving the problem).

>  We do not need all the saamees and kaar sEvaks.
> and shiv sEnaas. 

Why do you think of only kaar sevaks and shiv sena when you think about
hindus ?

>   "mazhithalum neetalum vENdaa ulakam
>    pazhithathai ozhiththu vidin"
>   Tamil vEdham TK. 
>
>
>  "You do not have to shave head or grow beard if
>you stay away from things that the world detests"

-Krishna.
Opinions are mine.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: WRITE UP OF TAMIL FILMS!!!
From: ipandian@cstp.umkc.edu
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:39:56 -0600
Organization: UM - Kansas City, Computer Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax2.cstp.umkc.edu

In article <C19psM.9rJ@unccsun.uncc.edu>, spragals@uncc.edu (Satish Pragalsingh) writes:
> Why do we not have any movie gossip section in this group .I am sure that there are a lot of people interested in tamil movie Review and gossips. hope to see movie news soon on this net work
> Thanks in advance to all who may contribute to this.  
> 
> 
>

OK, seems to be a good idea.

Let me start with a few lines about the much spoken about tamil film ROJA.
first of all i think eventhough the movie is made in good spirits with all that
talk in the movie about national integration etc., except it had a different
style of thinking due to Sujatha being the brain behind it, it had hardly
anything. It is hard to digest that a terrorist gives up terrorism for a few
dialogs in the final moments of the movie. Anyway  good messages are passed
away from the movie that too when the country is reeling under ethnic and
regional pressures.   

Songs are good. apart from that usual semi-lighting in the movie by mani
rathnam and it really hard to catch faces when it is so dark and seeing it
video in US makes it really horrible, let us hope mani will make movies in
better lighting in future.

but this movie is much better than many movies in tamil right now.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: an6987@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Missing and not found
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.tamil
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:45:42 GMT


There were two people writing in this newsgroup about Chera, Chola
and Pandya kingdoms. They wrote about canibalistic practices of
ancient Tamil kings. The same guys defended the Vedic practices
and stated that Ashvamedha Yaga didn't involve with horse sacrifice.
Kuram (a person who posts things with no reference, but asks others
reference) disappeared without even a bye.  Virendra Verma promised
to check his sources to varify Meenan's references. He is missing
too. If you happen to hear anthing about these guys, please let
us know. Come on guys (Kuram and Virendra)! Just admit your failure.

Ratnam
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From: rmv@ukc.ac.uk (raj)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: padikkattu varihaL
Date: 21 Jan 93 09:15:42 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.


[ sorry for the reposting. I forgot to include the last bit which is
  necessary at this early stage]


	"paruvam vantha anaivarumE kaathal seivadhillai!
	 kaathal seitha anaivarumE maNa mudippathillai!
	 maNa muditha anaivarumE sErnthu vaazhvathillai!
	 sErnthu vaazhum anaivarumE sErnthu pOvathillai!!"

	From "buthi yuLLa manitharEllaam..."

        posted by Srikanth




==============================================================================
  Please send your "padikkattu varihaL" to rmv@ukc.ac.uk
  

Rules
------

1) There should be a build up
2) No particular line should strike out ie a uniform build up
3) Preferably between 4 to 10 lines but there is no hard limit
4) Let us start with film songs. If this  catchup then we can include
   songs from other sources as well.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: rst@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (R. Sritharan)
Subject: Re: Protest March in Toronto
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:57:49 GMT

In article <C1E6D0.3L5@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> mvishnu@bcr3.uwaterloo.ca (Meenan Vishnu) writes:
>
>More than 2000 Tamils took part in a protest march on Saturday 
>Jan 23, 1993 in Toronto, Canada.  They were protesting against
>the Indian killing of one of LTTE's leader Kittu along with nine
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>other LTTE members.  The march was organized by the Federation of
>Tamil Organiztions.  The march started at 11.00 am at the 
>intersection of Young and Bloor Street in Downtown Toronto and
>ended at 2.00 pm at the Toronto City Hall.  Both the City TV and 
>CFTO covered the event.  Protesters were carrying placards reading
>'Indian Navy: International Terrorists' , 'India Killed Peace Maker'
                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>and so on.  The march was attended by Scarborough Member of Parliament
>who vehemently condemned India's action of killing a peace maker.
>Various Tamil Organizations distributed notices both in Tamil and 
>English mourning the death of their beloved leader and stating
>his accomplishments.  At the City Hall, some of the Kittu's comrades
>read poems often breaking in tears.  
>
>Meenan Vishnu

Sigh... Here we go again.

Perhaps, people should read the authentic news
reports posted in misc.news.southasia ALONG
WITH THEIR SOURCES.

R. Sritharan
From: an7506@anon.penet.fi (aruLmozhi varman)
Subject:  samrpaNam
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.tamil
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:10:07 GMT

>From: tss@unislc.uucp (Srinivasan Thothathri)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
>Subject: samarppaNam- to a killer!!
>Message-ID: <1993Jan25.160209.318@unislc.uucp>
>Date: 25 Jan 93 16:02:09 GMT
>Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
>Lines: 11
>X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
>
>
>	I am surprised to see a song dedicated to a leader of a notorious gang
>which killed, ans also killing, the inoocent tamil people for it's leader's
>power thirst!!!.
>
>	Don't try to insult the meaning of samarppaNam.
>
>	Please stop posting such nonsense!!!
>
>
>Srini.
>

	We "innocent tamils" of SL know what is happening to us. We also know
who our true representatives are. I presume that you are an Indian. If the
sct is to be a realistic union of tamils, then there  must have mutual respect.
By know you should know that the SL tamils atleast the ones who are here in the net consider LTTE as freedom fighters. So calling them "killers" &  "power
thirsty"  will draw a immuvable wedge between us.
		Innocent people are killed in a civil war time in SL. But
much more in a shorter span were/are killed in India. Your own PM accuses
BJP which was/is a ruling party in some states, of triggering the violence. 
So if you want to critisice "powers thirstiness" you have enough source
at your disposal.

                   thamizhan

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From: sundaram@me.uta.edu (Ravi 'Kity Bum' Sundaram)
Subject: Basic Curry (pachchai vadakkal) recipe; Microwave needed.
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:55:37 GMT

Hi,
	Ms Geetha posted recipe for Lemon Rice and Venkat wanted more
	such recipes. OK Here you go.

	It is very easy to make plain curry from frozen vegetables and
	microwave. The curry is not liquidish so you would need rasam or
	sambar for rice. 

	1.	Pop 16 Oz packet of frozen cut beans in Microwave
		Cook at 500 watts X 15 minutes.

	2.	When the microwave is zapping the beans start the 
		rice and rasam/sambar.

	3.	Heat 4 Tblspoons of Oil in baanali. When hot add
		a liberal dose of mustard seeds, a teaspoon of uLuttam
		paruppu, 0.5 teaspoon of kadalai paruppu, and sprinkle
		some asafoitida (peruNGAyam).

	4.	Add ONE of the following:
		a) Two medium size jalapeno peppers finely chopped.
		b) four dried red chilli
		c) 1.5 teaspoons of sambar powder/ red chilli powder later
			along with salt.

	5. 	Add the cooked beans. Toss to evenly distribute the oil.

	6.	Add 1 Teaspoon of salt and sambar/chilli powder if using
		option c) in step 4.

	END

	NOTE 1: if powders are used simmer for a few minutes to get rid of
	the raw flavour (pachchai vAsani).

	NOTE 2: Can use Frozen cut Broccoli, Cauliflower florets, 
	Mixed vegetables too instead of beans. 

Ravi Sundaram
		
____________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: subraman@myria.cs.umn.edu (Satish Subramanian)
Subject: vaLLuvan kaatiya vazhi - 13
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:53:24 GMT

________________________________________________________________

     Thirukkural           "vaansiRappu"           Chapter 2      
                      (The Excellence of Rain)

[3] 	     "viNNinRu pOippin virineer viyanulagatthu
	      uLninRu udaRRum pasi"

"If the cloud withholding rain deceive (our hopes), hunger will long
	give distress in the sea-surrounded spacious world."

___________________________________________________________________
   Corrections/ Discussions/ Different Interpretations are welcome.
                   Posted by Satish Subramanian
                      (subraman@cs.umn.edu)
	           Thanks to Siva Bala Narayanan
___________________________________________________________________
From: kanth@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (Meenakshi Srikanth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: minnal varigaL - 81
Date: 28 Jan 93 01:52:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.49163
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR


	"thadaagathil meen rendu kaamathil thadumaRi,
			thaamarai poo meethu vizhunthanavO!

	 idhai kanda vEgathil brahmanum mOgathil,
			padaithitta baagam thaan un kangaLO!"

	From "oru pon maanai naan kaaNa..."

	Contributed by B. Raghu.

	Posted by Srikanth Meenakshisundaram.
--------------------------------------------------------
Contributions Welcome. Please send YOUR minnal varigaL to
kanth@cse.ogi.edu. 
----------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: ssankara@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sornam Sankara)
Subject: Re: Fourth Tamil articles in ACT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:44:25 GMT




In article <9301272240.AA05041@cec1.wustl.edu> sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pand
ian) writes:
>   I have admitted many times in the net that ACT, though
>short-lived, was a much better newsgroup than SCT. In ACT,
>Sankarapandi first proposed a discussion on Naangaam Tamil
>and I have saved some articles in that discussion and I
>will repost them to start another discussion in SCT on the
>same topic.
>
>   What is 'naangaam thamizh' ? By this, Sankarapandi means
>the scientific Tamil - the mother-tongue education in schools
>and professional colleges in Tamil Nadu and he proposed a
>discussion on the pros and cons on this topic. His articles
>received a good response in ACT and the Tamil writers who
>took part in the discussion include M.P. Premkumar, Meenan
>Vishnu, Asokan, K.Srinivasan, Ravi Sinnarajah and Sankarapandi
>as well. It was a healthy discussion in ACT and it got stopped
>when Sankarapandi left for India and when he came back, SCT
>was started and there were mostly greetings and poems in the
>first month it was created. Then SCT had many discussions that
>the nettors may remember and the long run discussion in SCT
>is the 'ancient Indian history' thread and there was a duel
>between Kuram Narayana and C.R. Selvakumar in this thread.
>
>  The next few articles are a REPOST of some earlier articles
>in ACT on the fourth Tamil. I hope the writers Sankarapandi,
>Sundaramoorthy, Premkumar and Meenan Vishnu remember their
>articles. Sankarapandi refers to himself as SP in his article.
>Don't mistake this SP as me. There was unfortunately some
>misunderstanding between me and Sankarapandi in this thread
>and though it was not my intention, he took one of my satirical
>comments seriously, but it was resolved after I sent him an
>apology in an e-mail.
>
>  I welcome a discussion on this topic in SCT.
>
>- SP.


     Thanks for reposting the articles and renovating the interest.
I have all the articles saved.  I can repost the missing posts.


A small correction.  I continued the postings in SCT also.  I finished the
series before I left for India.  Since the discussions were different after I
came back from India and there were not many folowups on naangam tamizh, I did
not bring the discussion again.

I am supposed to come up with a proposal but still I am not ready because of 
many other work.  I will soon decide on that.

Thanks

S. Sankarapandi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: foulger@me.uta.edu (Clement Joshua Foulger)
Subject: PARASHAKTHI
Organization: none
Distribution: soc.culture.tamil
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:00:26 GMT

 dear members,
              My name is satish and I am a grad student at the University Of     Texas At Arlinton. I am a devotee of Mel Marruvattur Aadhiparaskthi. I came   to know that there are a few Mel Maruvattur mandrams in the U.S. If any of     you know the address of any mandram please do forward it to my email address.


thanking you

SATISH              Email address   foulger@me.uta.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: vinita@redbird.pa.dec.com (Vinita Bhatia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Survey of international students
Date: 25 Jan 93 07:11:56 GMT
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This is a request for help in a survey of facilities provided to internation
students on different campuses.  I need the information for a class project.

I will appreciate you sharing your experiences of the International Students
Offices in your university with me.  Please let me know of any program that
you thought was useful to you when you joined the school.  Also, if you felt
there was something for which you really needed help and was not addressed
before or after you joined the school.

Thanks for your help.

Vinita
-- 
Vinita Bhatia
vinita@redbird.umsl.edu
From: ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Subject: Re: vaLLuvan kaatiya vazhi - 12
Reply-To: ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:46:42 GMT


In a previous article, subraman@myria.cs.umn.edu (Satish Subramanian) says:

>________________________________________________________________
>
>   Thirukkural           "vaansiRappu"           Chapter 2      
>                    (The Excellence of Rain)
>
>
>[2] 	   "thuppaarkkuth thuppaaya thuppaakkith thuppaarkkuth
> 	   thuppaaya thOum mazhai"
                     ^^^^^
  I don't know what transliteration scheme you are using for 
writing Tamil using English letters. This is a typo in ADAMI
scheme. It should be `thooum' and not `thOum'.

>
>		"Rain produces food, and is itself food"
>___________________________________________________________________
>  Corrections/ Discussions/ Different Interpretations are welcome.
>                 Posted by Satish Subramanian
>                    (subraman@cs.umn.edu)
>	         Thanks to Siva Bala Narayanan
>___________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>

--
From: ambati@acsu.buffalo.edu (Balamural K. Ambati)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: What movie is this?
Date: 28 Jan 93 19:34:06 GMT
Organization: UB

Kamalahassan and his love jump off a cliff at the very beginning of the
movie but only she dies.  Later, he meets Revathi and tries to deny his
love for her.  It must be about 3-6 yrs old.

Thanks.

Bala Ambati
ambati@ubunix.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: vaidhyan@ecn.purdue.edu (Ramesh Vaidhyanathan)
Subject: Kushboo ...
Keywords: Movie
Reply-To: vaidhyan@cn.ecn.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:36:47 GMT


The title of a recent Kushboo's film, "Kushboo Kushboothaan"!

-Ramesh Vaidhyanathan.
From: sam@janus.chimkent.su (Yuri)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Help: Adress AArab Emirates is needed
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 08:41:59 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Janus Ltd,XSU
Reply-To: sam@janus.chimkent.su

Hi all ,

Is there email connection with United Arab Emirates ?
If yes, I would be very grateful for any address there
preferably in Sharja or Dubai.If no,an address in any country
close to UAE will do.
Please,answer to sam@janus.chimkent.su
Many thanks.
   Yuri.
-- 
Sam%janus.chimkent.su@relay.ussr.eu.net      
      Yuri Holodov
    Post Box 7 (seven)                             - Mobilis in mobile - 
       Chimkent-38                          

Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: oueichek@gram (Ibaa Oueichek)
Subject: Re: STOP IT
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:36:34 GMT

Ishaq S. Azzam (ai843@yfn.ysu.edu) wrote:
: 
: Hello every body,
: 
: I have been following part of the latest nonsense war, and
: have just few comments about it in which I intend to stop
: this war period.  I am new to sca, and I hope to be
: welcomed.
  Well, you could have started by a better subject than beating a dead horse.
  I've promised not to comment on the subject anymore, i hope people will 
  respect this choice and stop digging it and taking sides (that includes BOTH
  sides).
  However, welcome to s.c.a.


: Again if that what he thinks, why is it bothering you personally?
: In Islam that is a true fact.  It is not as you claim it is Hamza's
: version of Islam.  People of the book and non-muslims are Kafir and
: Mushrik.  Either you have to accept that or go and
: modify every word in the Qur'an.  If you can't do that, grow up!

  Ahhhhhhhh, not again PLEASE.
: 
: 
: Taheeati,
: 
  Ahleen.
: - IA, not iowa

--
Sham(u) ya tha (s)seif(u) lam yaghib(i) | Ibaa Oueichek. oueichek@imag.imag.fr
    Ya jamal(al) majd(i) fi(l) kutub(i) | IMAG, INPG.
Kablak(i) (t)tareekh(u) fi thulmaten    | Grenoble. 
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From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Shaqeeqa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Sadam
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:50:22 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <1690@yetti.UUCP> aboelaze@cs.yorku.ca (Mokhtar Aboelaze) writes:

>First, it is not "has done" it is "still doing", there is a big difference.

Yes!

>Second, What exactly do you mean by "repentence".
>To the best of my knowledge, to repent, you have to acknowledge first
>that you have done something wrong and vow not to repeat it again.

Yes ... yes!

>When did Sadam acknowledge any thing wrong he has done ?

I'd like to know too!

>if you have any information about this, please let us know, I am willing
>to be persuaded.

Though not *too* persuaded ...

>That is a very hypothetical question. However, my answer is 
>I WILL NOT KILL THEM unelss there is something mysterious about being
>in power that completely ruin people mind and turn them into power hungary
>murderers.

Bravo - Bravo - Bravo!

:-)

Anisa

Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,talk.politics.mideast
From: oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek)
Subject: Re: Be careful... The dirty plan...
Followup-To: talk.politics.mideast
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:13:28 GMT

[Please Notice the followup line].

Danny Keren (dzk@cs.brown.edu) wrote:
: jhardono@ucs.indiana.edu (JUMAHADI HARDONO) writes:
: 
: # Dear netters,
: # 	Have you heard a speech by Ya.. Shamir (Israel's prime Minister)
: # about Israel's claim on Arab land from Nile river to Euphrate river according
: # to jews bible (Torah)? 
: 
: 1) He is no longer prime minister, in case you have not noticed.
  Le roi est mort, vive le roi. IMHO, Rabin sucks more than Shamir, he has no 
  clear policy and he's very confusing. He managed to kick out more than 400
  Palestinians without trial, and convinced everyone that those people deserve
  it just by sticking the label "Fundamendalist" on them. I'm afraid this act
  is just a trial to test how far he can go, maybe the next time it won't be
  "only" 400 Palestinians, but 4000. Yet it's the same Rabin who should be 
  given the credit for the abolition of the anti-PLO law. This guy is really
  "fuzzy", and this lake of consistency is highly indesriable when you are
  dealing with him (at least with Shamir it was clear : Don't dream of peace).
: 
: 2) Can you give the exact source and text of that speech, and when it
:    was made? If you will not answer, I will have to conclude you
:    invented this. I am waiting for your answer.
  Well, i never heard such a statement from Shamir, but i'm certain this idea
  exists, and it's quite supported by several religious guys. Asking for a proof ?.
  The map of "Eretz Israel" was posted to soc.culture.arabic by a Jew (*), and
  it extended from the Euphrat to the Nile. I have no idea about the popularity
  of such claims, but i wonder about the mental helth of those who believe in
  it. I believe Ariel Sharon has already given such a statement.

  As a side note, one of the sources of that claim is the conquest of Damascus
  by David. I've tried to check all the sources i found in the local library
  about the "parallel history", and none of the Aramian srouces tell about such
  a conquest. Does anyone know about a non-biblical reference about this 
  particular event ?.
  
  (*) The map was cross-posted from soc.culture.Jewish, unfortunately i didn't 
  save it.
: 
: -Danny Keren.
: 
: 

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    Ya jamal(al) majd(i) fi(l) kutub(i) | IMAG, INPG.
Kablak(i) (t)tareekh(u) fi thulmaten    | Grenoble. 
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