From: joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: new bike .vs. vasectomy
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:46:52 GMT
Reply-To: joe@mpd.tandem.com
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Austin, TX.

]]Uptight Bitch (tm)
]sorry, joe, you'll have to stand in line to call me names.  i doubt
]you have the credentials, anyway, but you can wait if you like.

well, ok. here's my first pass at the original, just throw it in the 
queue for me and get to it when you can...

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]> On a local shock radio show here (DC101), a woman just called up and 
]> said she's really pissed because her husband just took the money he
]> was supposed to use for a vasectomy and bought a motorcycle!
]> Now THERE'S a guy who should get an honorary DoD#!
]
]irresponsibility in things that matter is no great attribute, nor does
]it bode well for his attitude about OTHER things that matter, like
]riding well.  quite the contrary.  i am NOT impressed. 

your attitude that this man is being irresponsible and that this is
somehow indicative of his attitude towards other things is simply
disgusting. let's assume for a moment that the original article is
a piece of fiction designed to elicit a response from the female
perspective and the male perspective. we have your perspective.

a couple of items from the original provide quite a bit of insight
into this mans situation. 
    1) "the money she gave him"
    2) "supposed to use for a vasectomy"
    3) "called up" the public radio station

it becomes apparent that this man is unfortunate just being with this
manipulative, controlling, insensitve woman. it's an insult to human
beings in general that she would "give him money" to have his body
mutilated. is she so abusive that she needs to control his day to day 
financial actions and feels that he should consider himself lucky
to have her deciding those things for him? I see nothing but a terribly
disturbed and paranoid woman who must constantly reaffirm her control
and power over him. has he not endured enough abuse that she must now
force him to mutilate himself to reassure her? it's obvious that he
did not agree to the vasectomy by his resulting actions, that he has
finally decided that he cannot be taken for granted any more and turned
her weapon against her. bravo for him for standing up for himself. it's
apparent that this confused panic stricken woman is grasping at anything
she can to reestablish her control over the situation by publicly 
humiliating him, her mind games and mental abuse no longer effective.

whatever happened to her to make her the sick person that she is does not
justify her actions against another human being. this woman needs to be
committed and given help, she's obviously crying out for it. I wouldn't
be surprised if the man used the motorcycle to exact revenge on her for 
the years of torture he's endured. I certainly wouldn't convict him, after
all it would be Kevin Kretz's responsibility, not his.

I say bravo to the man for not accepting the way women today whine about
inequalities and opression to justify their abusive attitudes and actions.
I say put the bitch in a womans prison and let her have a taste of her
own medicine. she won't be so tough there. she doesn't deserve help any more,
she deserves punishment.

I take your support of her actions and attitudes to mean your situations
are somehow similar...

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I still like the Uptight Bitch (tm) version better. your statement about
your doubting I have the credentials is obviously designed to test your
authority and power over me. I pity you your weakness...

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Joe Senner                                          joe@zx11.cactus.org
Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com