From: ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Ethnic violence in ESTONIA (Was: Fursten
Date: 16 Oct 92 06:44:29 GMT
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
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INFIDEL (wojdylo@maths.uwa.oz.au) wrote:
: tahonen@katk.Helsinki.FI (Timo Ahonen) writes:
: 
: >In article <1bb0sdINNs4d@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> wojdylo@maths.uwa.oz.au (INFIDEL) writes:
: 
: 
: >>>You might be
: >>>tomorrow running amok in your local supermarket and killing dozens
: >>>of innocent Western Australians with your rifle!
: 
: >>I will make sure that it is a Finnish supermarket and that you are
: >>amongst the crowd.
: 
: >Christ, this guy is a fuckin' loony!!!! He IS serious!
: 
: Then I'll come and chop your balls off with a potato peeler and feed
: them to the seagulls.  
: 
: Let them puke.

A Mutlu duplicate on the lines?
: 
: 
: 
: >>As it stands, Estonia has chosen to dice with fate by (a) opposing any
: >>federation, thus strengthening the position of Communists within Russia;
: >>(b) denying civil rights to a large Russian minority, thus --- should the
: >>situation with the Russian minority deteriorate --- not acting to prevent
: >>a DEMOCRATIC Russia from forcefully defending the rights of ethnic Russians 
: >>AS IT IS OBLIGED TO DO UNDER INTERNATIONAL CONVENTIONS.
: 
: >Such as?
: 
: Read your government's caveat in your passport; better still, ask your
: mother to read it for you. Wouldn't want to strain your brain too much
: figuring out the letters. 
: 
: 
:  
: >>The Estonian government has laid itself open to manipulation by forces hostile
: >>to its existence; e.g. ex-Communists like Colonel Alksnis.
: 
: >Accordingly to this fellow, Estonia is responsible for the rising ultra 
: >right-wing forces in Russia because she went independent...
: 
: You got it in one, Sherlock.
: 
: 
What other things Mr. Wojdylo  Estonia is responsible for in Russia?
Can you give some examples?

: 
: >>>The only violent threats we hear in Estonia come from some groups in Russian
: >>>parliament. 
: 
: >>Denying civil rights is an act of violence.
: 
: >>>Of course, if Russia falls apart and the democratic Yeltsin
: >>>will be pushed aside, God save Estonia!
: 
: >>God save the region.
: 
: >>>Since Estonia has become a part of Helsinki process and tries to become
: >>>Part of European council, all violent outbursts in Estonia will be
: >>>supressed by the Estonian government, because they are deeply unpatriotic.
: 
: >>As is the denial of civil rights to the 40% ethnic minority.
: 
: >Whose patria is in question here?
: 
: Estonia's patria, Sherlock.
: 
: Here's a hint: better bone up on your logic before you come out 
: brown-nosing again.
: 
: 
I would like to know what is your   fuzzy logic Mr. Wojdylo in this question?

: 
: >>>As president Lennart Meri said before the elections in Estonian TV:
: >>>Let's face the facts: One MIG crosses the Estonian territory in
: >>>eight minutes. The price of one MIG amounts about 50% of the Estonian
: >>>state budget (of which 3,6% is spent on defense, which he didn't add).
: 
: >>Estonia is recognized as a state in the international arena. Estonia
: >>does not act alone --- it sets precedents for other states -- and
: >>would-be states -- in the region. Denial of civil rights in Estonia and
: >>Latvia is an argument for similar denials in Abkhazia and other Central
: >>Asian regions. Even if Estonia encounters smooth waters in its own
: >>little Baltic triste, it may yet have blood on its hands in the
: >>explosive theatres of Central Asia.
: 
: >..and for the violence in Caucasus and Central Asia.
: 
: Having trouble with your eyesight?  Ask your mother, next time. She can
: then wipe your nose for you too.
: 
: 
Mutlu talk I would say...

: 
: >MUTLU/ARGIC has found its match. Unfuckingbelieveable, to quote EMF.
: 
: >Timo Ahonen                        
: 
: So has Noddy.
: 
: 
: 
: 
: 				    "Sometimes I think the surest sign that
: >University of Helsinki             intelligent life exists elsewhere in the
: >Finland                            universe is that none of it has tried to
: >Timo.Ahonen@Helsinki.FI            contact us." Calvin by Bill Watterson
: 
: 					^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: 
: It tried to contact Noddy years ago, but he was too busy having his arse
: wiped by his mother to notice.
: 
: 
Wojtyla gives quite an odd picture of his level of thinking!
Where one can learn such kind of argumentation? I am curious to know.
Jarmo Ryyti
SUOMI

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