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From: tom@Ingres.COM (We are such things as dreams are made on.)
Subject: What happened to this group???
Reply-To: tom@Ingres.COM
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Distribution: ca
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:14:22 GMT


Sorry about this dumb message, but several weeks ago this group 
stopped showing up at my site, and this is one of my favorite groups! 
(I'm thinking about a brain piercing and need some feedback about 
stud guages and the like ;@)

Our system managers say that we do no filtering and in fact I am still
receiving some pretty ?interesting? groups (my favorites of course) like
a.s.b (both of them) etc.

Did this group change names?

Is it being censored by one of our feeds?

I'm pretty ignorant about 'news', so any help is appreciated.

Note that sending mail directly to me is the best, as I'm not
getting this group anymore.

Thanks,

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: Sex and stuff
	<2A9BBFA8.24604@orion.oac.uci.edu> <94652@bu.edu>
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:02:41
Distribution: rec.arts.bodyart

"Matthew" == Matthew Wise <mwise@acs.bu.edu> writes:
Matthew> Sounds to me like you want an ampallang.....
Matthew>  - Designed to promote pleasure in female sexual partners.

I haven't heard the one partner I've had express that it did anything
"better" but merely "different".

Matthew>  - It really hurts alot.

Takes about 30sec to get the needle through.

Matthew>  - Healing takes a long time...months of abstainance.

2 or 3 for me...
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From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell)
Subject: Re: Gauntlet NYC
Organization: Bush in 92 ? NOT!
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:22:25 GMT

jpe1@PL122b.cc.lehigh.edu (John.) writes:
: How good are the people at Gauntlet NYC?  I've not heard much, but everything
: I have heard has been slightly to fairly negative.  A friend had both nipples
: done there and one was a real mess and the other was not good.  The comments
: from others have generally been vague, along the lines of "oh, they don't
: do good work there." or "there are better places to go." (though the people
: who have said the latter didn't elaborate as to who/where would be better)

I got my Prince Albert done there in 11/91.  It was handled professionally,
he answered my questions, but it was not unlike visiting a very busy doctor.
I did get a walk-in, right at their opening-time, without any problems.

My only gripe: I feel they sized the ring too big (I've heard this com-
plaint by others as well).  A 1/2" ring would have been more appropriate
for me than a 3/4" ring... it wouldn't have gotten hooked on my underwear
so often, and I feel more comfortable wearing a condom with the smaller
one.

Incidentally, it's not a bad trip at all from Allentown... I was there
when I headed up to NYC (park at Newark airport and take a shuttle in).
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From: bpwing@phoenix.princeton.edu (Ben Wing)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:26:00 GMT
Subject: Re: I'm deflowered
Organization: Princeton University
X-Subliminal-Message: You can quit reading news anytime you want.

In article <rich.714936515@gotland> rich@island.COM (Rich Fanning) writes:
|ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
|
|>Is it that the part of a person that responds to ritual things
|>is dead in me, or am I just clueless?
|
|I don't know.  Why don't you plan to attend a ritual and see what it does
|for you to be with someone else getting pierced? I have attended three or
|four piercing rituals.  I was not pierced in any of them.  (I have two
|ear-holes and two tit-holes.)

How do you go about just "attending a ritual"?  Even in SF, where I live,
they're not exactly well-publicised.

ben
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From: dancer@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: piercing in illinois?
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:17:11 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

In article <Btys7J.Aur@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, lahg8287@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lisa A. Haynes) writes:
> i'd like to get a new piercing, and have a few re-done professionally
> as well as get some good jewelry (especially this part).  Anyone
> know where in the mid-central illinois or chicago area?

Well, if you are willing to wait awhile, there is the National Leather
Association's Living in Leather convention in October. there should be several
good people there including Gauntlet.

Anyone wanting information about this event, send me email. :-)

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From: russw@cs.utexas.edu (Russ Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: funny tattoos
Date: 31 Aug 1992 00:39:27 -0500
Organization: Great Northern Hotel
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

A couple weeks ago I saw a woman with the Disney character The Little
Mermaid tattooed on the inside of her ankle.

R
From: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Asian style/method
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:53:51 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.bodyart
Organization: Florida State University

Greetings, r.a.b. ones, I'm a newbie in this group, please pardon any
stoopid questions...

I'm interested in learning more about Asian tattoo styles and methods. I
understand that traditionally they were given with bamboo instruments,
and the pictures I've seen of Indonesian, Japanese, Chinese, etc. work
looks most impressive. Due to a certain prediliction towards, and
interest in such cultures, I'd like to find out if there is anyone in
the US who works in this style, using this method. Specifically, (and I
know this is a longshot) do any of you know of anyone in Florida or even
on the East Coast that does this type of work?

In general, I'm just interested in information. Any pointers to
references, people, or just your opinions or impressions of this would
be most appreciated.

Thanks in advance...

David Poore
poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: daf31428@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (David A. Fleming)
Subject: Skin Deep (body-painting)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 02:28:29 GMT

This sounds like the right group to post this question to :-.

	I'm trying to find a book that came out sometime in '84 called
_Skin Deep_ that dealt with body painting.  I've tracked down the authors'
names -- Helene Geutary and Patrice Casanova -- but I'm not too sure if
it's still in print anymore.
	Anybody out there heard of this or know where I can obtain a copy?

	Any leads appreciated.

					daf31428@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: osan@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (Mr. X)
Subject: Re: Gauntlet NYC
Keywords: attitude, ga size
Organization: Twilight Zone
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:45:05 GMT

In article <7327@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu> alewis@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu (Drew Lewis) writes:
>
>I was in NYC yesterday, and stopped in at Gauntlet to get a smaller (7/16)
>barbell for my tongue.  The people working their are incredibly egotistical
>and elitist, have a major attitude of if you didnt get pierced by gauntlet
>then their is no way you could have been pierced correctly.  Really pissed 
>me off, especially as an apprentice piercer in Boston.

	I did not get this when I went there for my navel piercing, two weeks
	ago, but I agree that it would have been pretty annoying.
>
>Also, their gauge sizes are different than Silver Anchor Enterprises gauges...
>at least i think so.
>The 12 gauge Silver Anchor barbell i had in my tongue
>measured between a ten and 11 on their gauge meter, while the 12 ga i bought
>from them looks (i didn't measure it) about the same size as the Silver Anchor
>14 ga ring in my nipple.
>
>Anyone else noticed this?
>
	This could well be as there are several different wire gauges.  The
	two most common are the Brown & Sharpe gauge and the American Standard
	Wire Gauge.  I forget which will yield a larger number for 2 equivalent
	numbers, though I believe it is the B&S.  There are other gauge scales
	as well but it is extremely unlikely that any of these would be used
	by such a manufacturer.  So it is probable that one uses the B&S while 
	the other the ASWG.

	FYI.

		-Andy V.
From: centaur@spud.kludge.com (Victor Scott Rose)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Permanence
Date: 23 Aug 92 06:31:51 GMT
Organization: Tater Tot Liberation Front, San Francisco CA

wab@well.sf.ca.us (Doc Benzene) writes:
> These clowns *aren't* getting original tattoos.  I see the
> same variations on a theme over and over, like the celtic
> armbands.  A lot of tattoo artists are making their bacon

Well, I've been wanting a Celtic style armband (or bracelet, or ring, or 
SOMETHING) for quite awhile....
Not cause I go to the bars and wanna fit in (I don't do bars)
Not cause all my friends got 'em (I don't think any of 'em do...)  
(Though that is part of the reason I got my tongue pierced... that and it 
felt so GOOD when getting kissed by one, I wanted to return the favor!! 
;)
I want a Celtic style armband because I like the style. For ME! (and I 
don't care if they ARE popular! :)

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From: batman@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Karl Elvis MacRae - Ministry of Silly Walks)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Fishy Little Nipples (Was  Re: funny tattoos)
Date: 2 Sep 1992 23:21:16 GMT
Organization: Tattooed Love Boys
Reply-To: batman@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Karl Elvis MacRae - Ministry of Silly Walks)
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In article <17tlk7INN56d@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> batman@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Karl MacRae - [Me] ) writes:
>
>	Nah, it's ok, as long as you do her with the shells gone
>	and rings in her little fishy nipples, it's fine...

	'ya know, ever since I wrote this, I've been unable to
	get the phrase 'Fishy Little Nipples' out of my head.


	I dunno why, or what it really means... But it just won't
	go away....


	Hmmmm....


			-Karl

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From: dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Subject: Re: funny tattoos
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:09:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.215639.12315@julian.uwo.ca> lrb@alex.ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey) writes:

>1) a smiley face on the end of your penis (told to me be a nurse who had to
>   catheter him.

I have seen pictures of a guy with tweetie bird tattooed on his dick.


Best funny tattoo?

Freddy Corbin has kanji characters which say "wind of the bowels".


FWA
From: hsu@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (William Tsun-Yuk Hsu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: piercing in illinois?
Keywords: where?
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:37:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: csrd.1992Sep2.213748.16976
Organization: UIUC Center for Supercomputing Research and Development

>lahg8287@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lisa A. Haynes) writes:
>|> Anyone know where in the mid-central illinois or chicago area?

dbidwa@sei.cmu.edu (Daniel Bidwa) writes:
>Guilty and Innocent Productions in Chicago
>312-404-5838

>I don't have the address, but the phone should be correct. 

The address is 613 W. Briar. Briar is one block south of Belmont. 613 is
the block just west of Broadway. I can give detailed directions if
necessary.

>[Geez, now that Bill's gone to SF, I guess someone else in the Chicago area
>will have to start doing this.]

It's a tough job, but I can still try :-)

Bill
From: barb@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Barbara MacRae)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Surgeons, M.D.s and piercings.
Date: 4 Sep 1992 16:36:46 GMT
Organization: Saint Sebastian's school for Wicked Girls
Reply-To: barb@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Barbara MacRae)
NNTP-Posting-Host: batcave.ebay.sun.com

In article <1992Sep3.200637.3444@u.washington.edu> lemaire@redx.washington.edu (Edward M. Galore) writes:
>
>I really don't think that surgeons should be written off entirely as 
>incabable or unnecessary. 

No, certainly not. In fact, when I have had surgery, I myself
have chosen a surgeon to do it. Found darn capable ones, too.

> In some cities a surgeon may be the only 
>option.

Personally, if I were absolutely UNABLE to get to a professional
piercer, and I simply couldn't wait, I would order the equipment
and a 'how-to' video from gauntlet (or some other similar place)
and do it myself before I would go to a surgeon. Do you have any
idea the way a surgeon is going to look at you if you walk in 
and say "put this barbell through my penis, please."

> If I'm not mistaken the option of having a piercing done by a 
>doctor was suggested by someone in the REsearch book _Modern Primitives_. 

Sorry, but Modern Primitives is far from a piercing handbook.
The opinions stated in there have no automatic validity 
simply by virtue of being printed in a REsearch publication.

>I believe it at least possible that a doctor could make a successful 
>piercing.

Sure, but is that good enough? When I go to someone to have
them pierce sensitive parts of my body with a large needle,
*I* want a little more assurance of capability than "well,
it's at least *possible* that this person can do this
successfully..." I think it's "at least possible" that most
anyone with the proper tools and an IQ above 'totally lame'
theoretically COULD make a successful piercing. I want 
someone who DEFINITELY CAN.

>
>However, I agree that whenever possible an experienced piercer should be
>employed instead.  A doctor who is qualified for surgery may lack 
>all sense of aesthetic.  And I certainly believe a piercer to be
>far richer in aesthetics, and far more worthy of your money.

Okay, so we agree. %^)

>Besides surgeons can't all be bad.  I have a beautiful scar on my chest
>as a result of a shoulder operation.  I couldn't ask for a better form
>of scarification.

Yup, I've got a couple of surgical reminders that I'm *quite*
fond of... heard something about a new procedure where they
use sheets of silicone to remove scars, and I thought "WHY?
Scars are so COOL!" but I guess not everyone is quite like us...

-Barb
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: Matt.Balara@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Matt Balara)
Subject: Re: Japanese tatt designs
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:34:00 GMT

	Forgive my lack of follow up quoting, the UNC BBS isn't equipped
for that (not that I'm complaining about my only Usenet news access :D)...
	
	Jeff Dauber asked what exactly I was looking for specifically as
far as Jap tatts go.  Well, I know a top quality artist and am looking for
a little content inspiration, I'd like to draw my tatt myself and need
some good visual references of japanese art, existing japanese tatts, etc. 
Anything you can give me, book names, mag names and addresses, whatever,
would be *highly* appreciated.  Also, Jeff, the names and contact info of
any of the east coast artists with a rep for good Jap work that you
mentioned would make me *real* happy.  Thanks again. 

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From: m1bfg00@fed.frb.gov (Bruce F. Gilsen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: funny tattoos
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:53:56 GMT
Reply-To: m1bfg00@fed.frb.gov (Bruce F. Gilsen)
Organization: Federal Reserve Board, Wash, DC


Last year, I saw someone working at the Smithsonian who had a tattoo of a Universal
Price Code (UPC) on his arm.  I wondered if this caused him any hassle at the supermarket checkout line.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones)
Subject: Re: funny tattoos
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 20:01:13 GMT
Organization: Charnel House

asuccop@milton.u.washington.edu (Annemarie Succop) writes:
: 
: 	i have piglet from winnie-the-pooh (complete w/his balloon) on
: 	my upper arm; i'm quite happy with him.

Yay, I like it.  How could you not be happy with Piglet?  Now you just
need "Trespassers W" put someplace private... ;-)


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From: bsspeie@anagld.analytics.com (Brad S. Speierman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: blackwork...
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:37:51 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.bodyart
Organization: Computer Sciences Corporation - Systems Engineering Division

dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:

>Uh, Mason.... It is not that difficult to get blackwork the size of yours
>to be even in color...  When you start getting into the large expanses of
>black, the colors get more uneven....

I have a large all black tattoo that covers the entire side of my right
calf that is 4 years old and although it's not as deep black as when
they finished it up it's still definatly black.  There is absolutly no
blue to it.  Also all the parts that are dark black are all even.  I
don't know if the fact that the entire tat was done single line is the
reason that it's stayed so dark or not.  If it is then it was worth the
extra few hours that I put in the chair to get it all done single line
instead of with a shader.

FWIW,
Brad

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From: barb@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Barbara MacRae)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: funny tattoos
Date: 31 Aug 1992 05:50:41 GMT
Organization: Saint Sebastian's school for Wicked Girls
Reply-To: barb@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Barbara MacRae)
NNTP-Posting-Host: batcave.ebay.sun.com

In article <17sbafINN2ka@cs.utexas.edu> russw@cs.utexas.edu (Russ Williams) writes:
>A couple weeks ago I saw a woman with the Disney character The Little
>Mermaid tattooed on the inside of her ankle.
>

Aw, geez, *I* was gonna get that. But I guess it's too trendy now.

-B

Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: slf@netcom.com (Sharon Fisher)
Subject: Re: I'm deflowered
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 23:21:25 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:

>In article <s!anpnk.slf@netcom.com> slf@netcom.com (Sharon Fisher) writes:
>>For those of you who've known me for a while, I'm happy to say that I
>>am no longer a piercing virgin.  I took part in a piercing ritual this
>>weekend and I am now the proud owner of a 20-gauge hole in my left
>>earlobe, which was perforated by Fakir.

>I don't mean to be rude, but what's the appeal in getting something
>as mundane as an ear piercing done in a ritual?  I'm not trying
>to do any "my piercing's more outre' than yours" here, I'm just trying
>to understand this whole ritual thing.  For me, ear piercings are just
>decoration and part of my attempt to stay out of the 'yuppie scum/computer
>dweeb' crew.  Ok, so I did get a good adrenalin rush from piercing
>my own ear, but that's not something that I do that often.

I'm 32.  I have never had a piercing.  I've been hanging around with
the local 'modern primitives' people for something like three years
now.  It's not "just decoration" at this point; it's a statement about
me.  My first earring is a ritual, too; I asked my partner to get me
one, and he went out and got one *made* for me and everything.  

Another reason for having the piercing done at a ritual is that it's a
safer spacer.  One of the things discussed was that healing and
suchlike are influenced by your state of mind.  The chanting, drums,
and touches of my friends, as well as their concern and acceptance
over the next couple of days, means a lot more to me than dropping by
the mall and getting punched.

And sure, there's some aspect of "I want to be different" in it.

Incidentally, the ritual featured another virgin getting their ear
pierced, and the first ritual I attended had a virgin with a pierced
ear as well.  I don't expect this to be my only piercing; I wanted to
start out *right*.  Does that make any sense?

>>("What's next?" I also hear people ask.  Well, besides extra ear
>>holes, I'm not sure.  I was almost thinking about a nipple.  Almost.
>>Maybe.  It was tempting.)

>Get it.  It doesn't hurt much when you get it, it heals pretty
>fast, and it's really really really fun when your lover plays with it. :-)

Yes, I'm well aware of all the benefits, thanks.  It has more to do
with my state of mind.  I also need to research the effects on
From: dfpedro@nv2.uswnvg.com (Donn F. Pedro)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Gauntlet NYC
Keywords: attitude, ga size
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:10:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: I don't speak for them anyway.

In article <1992Sep1.204738.15880@cbfsb.cb.att.com> osan@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (Mr. X) writes:
:	Oh yes, THIS I definitely got, but I did not take it as being 
:	unfriendly or snottish or anything like that.  Besides, I was there
:	the get my navel pierced, not have them hold my hand.  They were very
:	friendly and very professional.  They just did not engage in too much
:	small talk, which considering that I greatly prefer that their
:	concentration be spot on whilst plungng needles through my flesh,
:	I was not bothered at all.

Joby, the man who did my amulet tattoo, was not kissy friendly,
but he did a good job and seemed very focused on the job at hand.
One of his friends came by to visit and started up a conversation
with Joby while he was shading on my sternum.  Joby talked little
as he inked and did speak up to support me when I asked the friend
if he wouldn't mind chatting about cars *after* I was finished.

I guess it depends on the atmosphere you want.  I want someone
who is focused on the task at hand and concentrating on it.  
It also helps to have a little quiet during your first tattoo.
Especially when the artist is doing the deep outlining right 
over your breastbone. 




     Donn Pedro ....................................dfpedro@uswnvg.com

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