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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:50:33 PST
Reply-To:     "(Perikles Konstantinides)" <perkon@SCF.USC.EDU>
From:         "(Perikles Konstantinides)" <perkon@SCF.USC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Ivdiavoi kai PFK
Comments: To: peter@ENGR.TRINITY.EDU
Comments: cc: hellas@uga.uga.edu
              at Nov 11, 92 7:55 pm

Prin sou apanthsw na sou pw to exhs: sto parakatw DEN apodeiknueis
TIPOTE. Mou para0eteis orismena stoixeia gia to giati oi Indianoi
den pernane kala. PERI KATAPIESHS OYDEN....

Xereis ti 0a pei katapiesh; Oti uparxoun nomoi pou tous katapiezoun,
oti den mporoun na broun douleies giati einai Indianoi, oti tous
bazoun fulakh giati einai Indianoi... Tipote apo ola auta den les
parakatw.

Telos pantwn, apantw shmeio pros shmeio, gia na teleiwnoume giati
mou fainetai oti peri purotexnhmatos eprokeito:

> Merika stoixeia:
>
> 1).  Oi ivdiavoi eivai oi gngeveis katoikoi tns xwras autns kai fusika tous
> avnkei istorika.  Ektopistikav apo tous leukous kai oi sumfwvies leukwv
> ivdiavwv exouv katavtnsei ousiastika axrnstes.  Opote "xreiastnke" oi
> ivdiavoi ektopistnkav apo ta "edafn tous" kai tous do0nkav ernmoi kai
> alles kakotopies se avtallagma.

         Kai oi Dwrieis htan katoikoi ths Ellados kai otan mphkan oi
    Axaioi tous ediwxan kai tous phran tis kulotes... Kai loipon; Se
    2,500 xronia h "katakthsh ths Dushs" 0a exei sunais0hmatikh
    fortish paromoia me thn ka0odo twn Axaiwn. Ti akribws shmainei h
    parapanw paragrafos sou, gia na katalabw; Auto den einai "katapiesh",
    einai mia katakthsh pou egine prin apo 150 xronia.

> 2).  Oi ivdiavoi exouv ovtws megalo problnma diabntn.
> Megalo rolo paizei o e3ns biologikos paragovtas:  oi perissoteroi dev exouv
> to evzumo pou metabolizei to oivopveuma afou prwta to metatreyei se glukozn
> me apotelesma va <me0ave> afou katavalwsouv mikrn posotnta oivopveumatos afou
> dev mporouv va to metabolisouv.  To problnma me tov diabntn pou exei
> givei xeirotero logw tns diatrofns pou twra exouv meta tnv zwn tous stnv
> amerikavikn koivwvia to exouv kai oloi oi laoi pou exouv ivdiaviko aima.

           Ma ti les edw re Petro; 0a mas trellaneis; OLOI OI LAOI THS
     MOGGOLIKHS FYLHS EXOYN AYTO TO PROBLHMA... Oi Giapwnezoi, oi Kinezoi,
     OLOI... Ti mas les twra; Oti h Amerikanikh koinwnia katapiezei tous
     Asiates apoikous ths giati uparxei alkool;

> 3).  Perikln ase ligo to Hollywood kai ela mazu mou va pame se ivdiavikous
> kataulismous stis politeies twv kevtrikwv HPA, twv boreiwv suvorwv kai allou.
> Ela va deis ti omorfa pou eivai va zei kaveis ekei xwris kav basikes paroxes
> opws nlektriko, vero kai alla tetoia basika.  Av dev eixa paei sto trie0ves,
> stov boreio ebro kai sta xwria twv Pomakwv 0alega pws eivai apo tis pio
> kata0liptikes kai upoba0mismeves perioxes.  (Exw znsei xrovia sto Detroit,
> Livernois kai 6Mile exw biwmata apo tis poleis tns xwras autns).

           Exw paei ston sunoikismo twn Navajos sthn BA Arizona.
     Den mou les: sto Cabrini Green exeis paei; Stis prosfugikes katoikies
     pisw apo to Intercontinental, sthn A0hna; Stis ergatikes katoikies
     tou Doublinou; Sthn Mosxa; Xreiazetai na pw tipote allo;

> 4).  Ivdiavous eixa tnv eukairia va dw stnv Mivveapoln:  exei snmavtiko
> pososto ivdiavwv pou zouv ekei se projects me kratikn bon0eia.  Nai,
> uparxouv me0usmevoi ivdiavoi pou dev faivetai va 0elouv va kavouv tipote
> oln mera alla av pas sta parka kai tis e3oxes tns polns ekei 0a tous breis
> va perpatav:  n suvdesn tous me tnv fusn DEN EINAI PARAMU0I!!!

             Kai loipon; Ti apodeixh katapieshs einai auth;

> Dev mporw va isxuristw oti katalabaivw tnv filosofia tous alla auto pou
> blepw eivai pws DEN tous evdiaferei n PROODOS (texvologikn klp) pou mas
> katavalwvei.  Dev 0a krivw av exouv dikio n' oxi alla stnv gn tous kai
> tnv xwra tous eivai sigoura DIKAIWMA tous va kavouv o,ti 0elouv akoma
> kai av auto eivai tipote apo tnv dikn mas pefwtismevn apoyn.

            Na sou pw: h uparxh ths Amerikhs exei boh0hsei ekatontades
     ekatommuria an0rwpous na glutwsoun apo thn peina, thn katapiesh
     kai ton skotadismo ths Eurwphs tou 18ou, tou 19ou kai tou 20ou aiwna.
     To timhma htan h katastrofh tou politismou twn Indianwn. OMWS:

            Oi Indianoi, otan hl0an sthn B.Amerikh apo thn Sibhria,
     kapoion allo politismo katestrepsan gia na egkatasta0oun edw, opws
     kai oi Maya, Incas, Aztekoi klp., kapoious allous politismous
     katestrepsan gia na edraiw0oun.

            H apwleia an0rwpinhs zwhs, gia opoiondhpote logo, einai
     katakritea kai aparadekth. Omws, o,ti egine egine.

            Mporeis se parakalw na mou apodeixeis oti oi Indianoi sthn
     Amerikh tou 1992, SAFWS KATAPIEZONTAI;

> P.B.

pfk
southern cal