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From: minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Mojahedin revisted
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:29:23 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1992Apr14.002106.29285@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb) writes:
> In article <saied.703209401@odin> saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:
>>
>>The following article is from Asghar. He is experiencing
>>difficulties with thier news server.
>>----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>From: hassen@me.eng.ohio-state.edu
>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
>>Subject: Re: Mojahedin Revisited
> 
> <Mojaheddin praise body deleted>
> 
>>
>>Asghar
> 
> In the words of Zaffar; HEY MAN! This ain't me. Get it?
		  ^^^^^^

In the words of yours truly, again. HEY MAN! Spell my name right! Get it?
> 
> Asghar AghA (who ain't no mojAhed parast)

zafar
^^^^^
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*)
Subject: Re: Terrorist Khomeini regime attacks an NLA Base
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 00:54:06 GMT

baze@milton.u.washington.edu (Behzad) writes:

>>Third, the Khomeini regime resorted to the same line of lies
>>and baselss claims last year when it invaded Iraq. Many of the
>>invading pasdars were killed or captured by the NLA combatants.

>  Killing your own countrymen could be a source of pride. 

Behzad, the above is the major source of flaw in your analysis
and logic.

The rapist and criminal pasdars invade Iraq to capture and kill
the Mojahedin. (The captured pasdars revealed that their intention
was to kill as many Mojahed as they could and take the rest back to
Iran.) The Mojahedin resist and, in order to defend themselves, 
they crush the pasdars. Now you call this "killing your countrymen!"

The Mojahedin do not consider the pasdars who rape young
prisoners, who torture, who execute, who spry acid into women's
face, who stone poor women, who have transformed Iran into
a virtual hell, .., as their countrymen. You see, if it wasn't
because of this evil regime and its criminal armed pasdars, even
we would be back in our homeland with our families. What do you
think has made so many of us Iranians to stay in the U.S. or in
Europe? Why som many young iranians and so many brains have fled
Iran? Was it because they were harassed by a pasdar or an
akhound?

>>To justify its humulating defeat, the regime claimed that the

>  Sheeah, right!!  The Mojahedeen have no power..  face it!!

The very fact that the Mojahedin have build a strong army and
have stood up against the most cruel regime and the fact that they
have never given up the fight to free the prople and to overthrow
the evil Khomeini regime is very encouraging and promising.
From: ghbr@fmg.bt.co.uk (Hossein Bagherzadeh Rafsanjani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Sigheh and all the rest of it.
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:33:24 GMT
Organization: British Telecom

In article <1992Apr14.104944.1103@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:

> ps. there are somethings that Islam will not budge on Mr. Rafsanjani, marriage
> is the only way a woman can get pregnant. There are no ands, ifs, or buts on
> this issue, even if the society where YOU might come from has some strange
> ideas about what marriage is all about.

Zafar, 

I am well aware that "there are somethings that Islam will not budge on"
including that "marriage is the only way a woman can get pregnant".
(Notwithstanding the case of Mary the Virgin!)  Indeed, you do not need to
remind me of the horrible fate of women who became pregnant by being raped in
Islamic countries (as I have covered that in my piece).  No, I am not disputing
that.  My points about marriage emanates from some other fundamental (and if I
may say so, egalitarian and humane) principles.  They are self-explanatory if
you read them objectively and with an open mind.

And most of the facts (you call them "strange ideas") I referred to are common
in almost all patriarchial societies (which include Islamic and many
non-Islamic countries alike), and are not restricted to "the society where YOU
(=me) might come from".

-hossein
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: fayegh@cs.ubc.ca (David Fayegh)
Subject: Re: Electronic MoshA'aereh (why not : -)?)
Keywords: Poetry and more poetry
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 07:49:14 GMT

hooshyar@scrp.stanford.edu (Hooshyar) writes:

>dar rah-e eshghat ey sanam, sheeftey-e balA manam
>                  chand moghAyerat koni, bA ghamat AshenA manam

>tAhereh khAk-e pAy-e to, mast-e mey-e laghAy-e to
>                  montazer-e atAy-e to, mo'taref-e khatA manam

>'TAhereh'

>ejAlatan yek meem enAyat befarmAeed

	ma'shoogheh mA gerAn nageerad hargez
			veen sham' -o- cherAgh-e mA nameerad hargez
	ham soorat -o- ham Ayeneh vallAh keh vayast
			een Ayeneh zangee napazeerad hargez
								"MowlAna"
khAheshmand ast yek "z-e" lotf befarmA'eed

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: ARE YOU ALL LIKE THIS
Originator: sehari@vincent1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:19:37 GMT

In <1992Apr11.150911.1@wharton.upenn.edu> wrightb@wharton.upenn.edu writes:

>WHY are you people so radical.You seem to be down right violent.
                               ^ Two space after the "." right !?-:)

                              
>At the slightest insult it seems as though you want blood.Is this
                        ^,                 ^, You forgot the ","
                                              Once again you forgot to
                                              put two spaces after "." -:)
                                      
>a thing about honor or is it something you are born with. Do the 
                                                         ^You need a "?" not
                                                          "." ?! -:)


This sounds like the words you tell a girl, when you want to convince
her to have sex with one?!  Yes we are out spoken, Yes we are different from
Indians.  See, Indian culture is the culture of being ashamed and not 
screaming for one's right.  Our culture on the other, is a culture that
demand us to speak up our mind.  Off course, you would find shy individuals
, which are their momy's good boys and girls! -:)  On the other hand,  most
people who went to High school, in Tehran at least, are like me a bad 
boys!-:)  

I do not know why you should be surprised, because your culture, which is
originated back in middle east, also encourages out spoken individuals.
Maybe, media has portrayed us too close to Indians; that's why you are
surprised to see out spoken people in this net?  Or maybe, you are an Iranian
who write under your friend's account, to soften the attacks to your favorite
political idea, which is under pressure, by making people ashamed to express
their mind?! -:) I remember this technique were used several times, by my
friend's back in high school. -:)  Oh, high school days, I miss them a lot. -:)


>attitudes I observed thus far reflect a general attitude of middle
          ^,                  ^, you forgot the "," homeboy?! -:)

>eastern people or is it just the folx posting to this news group?
                                  ^^^^  Folks right ?! -:)

I wish, I could say that all of us middle easterns are out spoken, and talk
our mind when something go wrong in our opinion;  However, we have many
good boys, nards, in  middle east too.  The same is true here in the U.S.


>I'm genuinely curios. 
               ^^^^^^  Curious right?! -:)

>                                                    STORM

>P.S. ALL RESPONSES WELCOME


P.S.  Now tell us the truth, are you an Iranian, who write from his friend's
account? -:)  I showed your article to a friend of mine who is a linguistics
major, she told me the article written, by a person with the Persian 
language background.   -:) Good job, you fooled many people so far . -:)-:)-:)
By the way, is your real name is "Tofan"?! -:)
From: sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Mojahedin Revisited
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:25:16 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Apr7.213100.1056@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
>I have read some stuff about the Mojahideen party. There are two branches, both
>are socialist, however one branch believes in Islam, but the other is atheist.
>Could someone give me more info or direct me to some books I could read about
>them?

I don't think they are two branches , as a matter of fact I know they
are one Organization .....  

But I think what you are refering to is " Shorayeh Meli-yeh Moghavemat"
This "Shora" consists of people from Mojaheds , Fadaii's , and more
others. They even have an Akhoond in there , Jalal Ganjei . I don't
know exactly what the objective of having this shora is . but I assume
someone with more infos would post the importance of this shora to
mojahedins . 

cheers 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: fayegh@cs.ubc.ca (David Fayegh)
Subject: Re: Electronic MoshA'aereh (why not :-)?)
Keywords: Poetry and more poetry 
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 04:45:45 GMT

alireza@eng.umd.edu (Alireza Karimzadeh-Rad) writes:

>Do cheshmoon siahat zad parichehr     Daroon ghalbeh man risheh parichehr
>Alaji man nemibinam joz inkeh         Zanam bar rishe-ash tisheh parichehr

>This is fun, I just made that up. I've never mosha'ered before, can
>you make up stuff or must they be by famous poets. Anyway if the
>answer is no you can't then tuff, if it's yes you can, then "re"
>bedeh.

Anything goes ... a multi-dimensional and multilingual moshA'ereh :-)

raft Ankeh nabood kas bekhoobee yArash
		  bee Ankeh delam seer shod az deedArash
oo raft-o namAnd dar delam teemArash
		  Aree  beravad gol-o bemAnad khArash

sheen bedeh please.
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From: fayegh@cs.ubc.ca (David Fayegh)
Subject: Re: Electronic MoshA'aereh (why not : -)?)
Keywords: Poetry and more poetry
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 08:42:07 GMT

hooshyar@scrp.stanford.edu (Hooshyar) writes:
>fayegh@cs.ubc.ca (David Fayegh) writes:

>>	man dard-e torA z-e dast AsAn nadaham
>>			 del bar nakanam z-e doost tA jAn nadaham
>>	az doost be-yAdegAr dardee dAram
>>			 kAn dard be-sad hezAr darmAn nadaham

I just realized that the above was already posted by our learned friend
Mr. Dariush Kiani  Ooppss :-) Sorry about that ... anyways, a "mim" is a
"mim", regardless :-)

>>khAheshmand ast yek meem deegar lotf befarmA'eed

>ey bechashm!
>
>man zAdeh shodam dar-een kharAb-AbAd
>Angooneh ke bakht-e vazhgoonam khAst
>taghdeer, joz-een makAn barAy-e man
>zeebandeh nadeed entekhAbee rA         (Nader Naderpoor, dAd khAst)   

>how about an alef-e nAghAbel?

meeAyad khedmat-e shomA yek alef-e nAghAbel:

	Az hAdeseh-e jahAn-e zAyandeh matars
			vaz har cheh resad   cho neest pAyandeh   matars
	een yek dam-e 'aomr rA ghaneemat meedAn 
			az rafteh may-andeesh vaz Ayandeh matars
								"MowlAna"

agar momken ast, khAheshmandam yek "seen" tAzeh lotf benamA'eed :-)
From: nsohrabi@athena.mit.edu (Naghmeh Sohrabi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: cynical irony
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:11:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Apr8.201119.23449
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology


Hello everyone.
A friend of mine and I were talking the other day about the fact that neither of
us could come up with Persian equivalents to two words: Irony, and cynicism.
There are some words that have similar meanings, but nothing that actually
expresses the meaning of these words.  We decided that probably the reason is that
we have too little of one to even have a word for it, and too much of the other,
that we don't even need a word for it.

Anyway, I would appreciate suggestions.

Naghmeh 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian)
Subject: Re: Reply to  Bahaies  gang
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 03:57:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.234056.7976@watserv1.waterloo.edu> arash@sunee.waterloo.edu (Arash Jahangir) writes:

>
>Just what does how one is dressed especially with reference to "Hijab" has
>to do with anyone's values?  Do you really think that women are your personal 
>objects that you they are be hidden behind curtains.  Is it that people

Sorry, I didn't read the rest of your article! My article that you referred
to, was written for people who are familiar with Islam. The only thing I can
tell you is this: When Farah Pahlavi (former Queen of Iran) who had not a
hejab ordinarily, went to Mashhad, she wore the hejab. That hejab is enough.

The fact that Shahrokh Mortazavi supports you is a strong enough proof that
you must be ashamed of yourself! *I* feel ashamed that non-Iranians who are
reading this newsgroup, might say "what kind of lAt these Iranians are !!!"
I don't know what female readers specially those who consider themselves
friends of Shahrokh feel?

Seyyed.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*)
Subject: Re: Terrorist Khomeini regime attacks an NLA Base
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:59:56 GMT

mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi) writes:

>In article <saied.702538216@odin> saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:
>>
>>
>>According to the Mojahedin, the terrorist
>>Khomeini regime attacked one of the NLA bases
>>this morning. One NLA combatant was martyred.
>>Some buildings and military equipment were
>>damaged. One of the attacking planes was
>>downed and the pilot and co-pilot captured.
>>
>>The supporters of the Iranian resistance
>>in New York, Ottawa, and 16 other European
>>countries have attacked the terrorist nests
>>of the regime, setting the place afire, or
>>destroying regime's belongings.
>>
>>A demonstration is planned for Tuesday.
>>
>>The Leader of the Iranian Resistance has
>>sent telegrams to the UN Sec. General, 
>>members of the UN Security Council, and 
>>other UN bodies, condmening the attack.
>>
>>More details later.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>

> It seems to me that you have a great deal of information about MKO. 
> Please give us 'More details' information on how/why/when MKO attacked
> innocent Iranian villagers who live close to Iran/Iraq border.

First, there has been no offensive attack from the Mojahedin.
The Mojahedin have denied the regime's claims. If the regime
has any evidence, it should reveal it. I also read in the 
newspapers that the U.S. military intelligence has verified
the Khomeini regime attack, but not the regime's claims. (The area
has been under surveillance by the U.S. ever since the Gulf war.

Second, even if the Mojahedin did attack (they will eventually
attack to free the Iranians from akhounds & pasdars' terror),
their attack would be against the terrorist pasdars. The people,
specially the Kurdish people of the western borders of Iran have
always been a source of man-power and support for the Mojahedin.

Third, the Khomeini regime resorted to the same line of lies
and baselss claims last year when it invaded Iraq. Many of the
invading pasdars were killed or captured by the NLA combatants.
To justify its humulating defeat, the regime claimed that the
Mojahedin attacked first. But lies and baseless claims are
the Khomeini regime's daily business. Israel and S. Africa too
resort to the same lies to justify their air raids.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri)
Subject: Re: Real Bankrupts (was: Mojahedin revisted
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:44:45 GMT

In article fsameri@perch.lerc.nasa.gov (Ali Ameri) writes:
|> In article farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri) writes:
|> >In article saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:
|> >|>    5. The Mojahedin never stop fighting this biggest enemy of Iranians.
|> >|>       The Mojahedin are courageous and are willing to sacrifice
|> >|>       everything they have for their people. That is alot to be proud of.
|> >|>       And that is something others, specially the psuedo-intellectual,
|> >|>       can't claim.
|> >|> 
|> >|>       Those who have given up the struggle and have lost their
|> >|>       hopes are the bankrupts not the Mojahedin who are getting
|> >|>       more serious each day.
|> >
|> >People have lost hope because they have seen you guys as the only 
|> >replacement for the current regime.  
|> >
|> >So if getting out of the chAleh means jumping into MostaraAh then I'd rather
|> >stay in the chAleh.  ( I could have used chAh instead of MostaraAh but in 
|> >case of NLA the later is more appropriate )
|> >
|> >...
|> >|> 
|> >|> I could go on, but I think the above in enough for now.
|> >|> 
|> >
|> >
|> >
|> 
|>  Well my friend why don't you go ahead and restore hope to the people of 
|> Iran. It would be nice to see how armchair intellectuals like yourself
|> would do. 

Well my dear brother,  Atleast when I plan to do such a thing I will
open my eyes and look around and see who the friends  are and not
just become the puppets of an enemy (IRAQ) and follow a leader
that his patriotism toward Iran is questionable!

|>
|>  I will not dignify your remarks about the out house. 
|> 

Good!  No one should be forced to write remarks like the above.
but MKO supporters do make it very easy.

-- 
         +----------------------------------------------------+
        /   Farhad  Shakeri         E-Mail:                  /
       /  Stanford   University     farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU  /
      / Computer Science Department                        /
     +----------------------------------------------------+
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From: beasley@bestsd.sdsu.edu (Bev Beasley)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re:  Typical Day in Grad student Life.
Keywords: I have nothing to do here.
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:22:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: bestsd.8APR199217220528
Organization: San Diego State University - Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

Assalamu Alaikum-
Hi.  I have lost and/or deleted the post re typical day in grad student's
life.  I thought it was so funny, and I was wondering if someone could forward
a copy of it to my email?  Thank you :)
Bev   (beasley@bestsd.sdsu.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: I think...
From: desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...)
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:00:36 MST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Univ. of Arizona...,TSN, AZ...
Nntp-Posting-User: desert

You should try only ``One'' letter per day for the ``MoshA`eareh''...

It is already getting out of hand with all the different ending letters.

Just a suggestion...

Ali...

P.S.:  How would you translate this:

		Ta sehh nA-shehh   BAzzy nA-shehh    .-)

-- 
ccit.arizona.edu!DESERT@uunet.UU.NET
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From: amoojoon@ghahveh.khooneh.mash.yadollAh (Bacheh Morshed)
Subject: Re: My two cents worth (WAS: re: KhAnomhA's opinion)
Summary: ghanbarakeh mash ghanbar
Keywords: eshtebAheh loppi
Organization: naghAl khooneh
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:34:41 GMT

In article <30430011@otter.hpl.hp.com> ke@otter.hpl.hp.com (Kave Eshghi) writes:


>> **********************************************************************
>> Subject: My two cents worth (WAS: re: KhAnomhA's opinion)
>> Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian

>........

>> Soheila

>> P.S.1 Amoojoon, mash bAgher, bacheh morshed, residents of "ghahveh khAneh"
>                  -----------
>>       and all other interested parties may hold any door for me and I
>>       guarantee you I will return the favor upon our next encounter.  As
>>       for individuals who rate 0 or negative on the universal Assana
>>       scale, you need not apply because I assure you, the door will be
>>       promptly held to your face, if and when we ever meet :-)

>Soheila Khanoom, maa chaakerim.

>Mash Bagher

 Mash BAgher joon,

 Since you replied to SoheilA's "eshtebAheh loppi" in calling mash ghanbar
 "mash BAgher" the real addressee "ghanbarak sAkhteh". He has been serving 
 nothing but "chAyeeh joosheedeh" and "noon lavAsheh bayAt" since he read 
 the postings. I guess that would also mean that his previously promised 
 "eshkeneh" for dinner "mAleedeh".

 So you see what you've done to us? As a result amoo and Morshed have moved 
 out of mash ghanbar's to mash yadollAh's pAtogh. Could you do something
 so maybe "az delesh dar beeyAd?"

 dar hasrateh chAyeh tAzeh dam va eshkeneh,

 amoojoon

 P.S. amoo's address has been changed merely due to NUTRITIONAL reasons. 
      Please make a note of it:   
                       amoojoon@ghahveh.khooneh.mash.yadollAh
From: saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Regime's motivations behind the defeated attack on an NLA base
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:08:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: odin.saied.702936501
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha


According to the information obtained from the crews of
the downed plane, the Khomeini regime has had plans to
make major attacks on the Mojahedin bases. (BTW, these
crew members have provided lots of intelligence information.
It would not be too surprising if these two crew members
join the the ranks of the NLA pilots once they become
acquainted with the NLA.)

The regime's plans were to attack the bases during the
New Year celebrations. (BTW, the regime has claimed that
more than 1,900 of the NLA combatants were killed in the
attack! This is another example of regime's astronomic
lies. It easily multiplies the number of dead by a factor
of 1,900!)

What are regime motivations? Here are my own guesses:

1. Its fear of the NLA, especially after recent NLA's parade
   in which thousands of well-maintained armored vehicles and
   tanks performed flawlessly for five hours showing the NLA's
   quality military work. This parade sent a clear signal to
   the illegitimate akhounds.

2. Increasing protests that have besieged the akhounds. The
   angry demonstrations in various parts of the country have
   involved throwing stones at and clashing with the criminal
   pasdars. People are getting increasingly frustrated with
   this anti-human regime. Delirious prices, unemployment,
   and poverty as well as profound and social and political 
   ramification of the NLA parade have been the reasons for
   these protests.

   To silence the people, the regime attempted to show some
   muscle but obviously was very unsuccessful. It killed one
   NLA combatant but lost two pilots to the NLA and got
   its spy-terrorist nests destroyed. The coverage of the events
   has been in the favor of the Resistance.

3. The strikes continue in Iran. According to today newspapers,
   there has been some 2,000 strikes in Iran during last six
   months. The major strikes has been in cities with oil refinery.
   The regime has blamed the Mojahedin for the strikes and the
   mounting social demonstrations.

4. Its election time for the regime's phony institutions. Again
   the regime was in urgent need of a "victory" to convince its
   hopeless followers that it still has some maneuvering power and
   they should not lose hope. This is perhaps why it resorted to such
   astronomic lies that some 1,900 NLA members including Mr. Massoud
   Rajavi were killed in the attack. What a miserable creatures these
   akhounds are!

5. Increasing tension and infighting among the Khomeini regime's
   factions. Again, to show that he is in control, Rafsanjani 
   initiated this defeated attack on one of the NLA bases.

There could of course be other reasons.
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