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From: mickh@imart.adsp.sub.org (Michael-Wolfgang Hohmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: ToolManager 2.0 Likes/Dislikes
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:30:36 GMT
Reply-To: swb.de!imart!mickh
Organization: ImageArts
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In article <1992Sep28.175700.28307@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>, Jeff Hanna writes:

-> I spent the weekend setting up ToolManager 2.0, and I must say that it takes
-> quite a bit of work, and performing repetetive tasks to get the thing running.

 Yes it's a bit more difficult, because of the heavy new features Stefan
 added.


-> What happened to the App Window?  The reason I switched from Tools Daemon to

 NO it is still always there -- RTFM!!!


-> TM in the first place was the fact that adding new programs was as easy as
-> dragging an icon over the App Window.  Now to get a program into a dock or
-> menu, I have to edit an EXEC entry (no App Window), edit an IMAGE entry
-> (no App Window), edit a DOCK entry (no App Window), and edit a MENU entry
-> (no App Window).  This is 4 times the ammount of work that it should be.

  What do think about clicking on the __NEW__ Gadget in the EXEC-Entry,
  then TM will open an window and how __AMAZING__ this window is an
  APPWINDOW. Also the Window where you define the IMAGES. And the others
  don't need (and it's useless, too) AppWindows.


-> How do you set up *HORIZONTAL* docks?  All I can seem to get it to do is make
-> vertical ones.

  RTFM! You have to edit the "Columns" (in the "Edit Dock Object"-Window)
  in order to fit with the amount of Tools you have defined in this Dock.


-> Don't think that I am *FLAMING* the program, because I am not--I like it
-> very much.  But, I think that it could be made a lot more *USER-FRIENDLY*

  It is as *USER-FRIENDLY* as it was!!!

   == Mick ==

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: menelli@tellabs.com (Ron Menelli)
Subject: ToolManager 2.0 question
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Reply-To: menelli@tellabs.com
Organization: Tellabs, Inc., Lisle, IL
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:53:49 GMT

To whom it may concern:

I'm trying to get a dock entry created that prints a file that is dropped on
it. Either I'm not configuring something right, or I don't fully understand
how ToolManager is supposed to work. I have a CLI based program that prints
a file with nice headers and all that stuff. It is set up as an Exec object,
type CLI, arguments box checked, no path or current directory specified. This
exec object and a corresponding image are in a dock. From what I gather, I
should be able to drag an icon on it, and it should call the program with
that file as an argument, right? The program, however, acts as if no arguments
are included.
So, the question is, what did I do wrong? Or does ToolManager not support this
in the way I thought it did?

Thanks for any responses,
-Ron Menelli
menelli@tellabs.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: taylors@hubcap.clemson.edu (C. Taylor Sutherland III)
Subject: Re: PageStream 2.21 release
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:02:10 GMT


RTFM!  There are two upgrade patches in the archive.  You used the 
wrong one.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun)
Subject: Re: Wordperfect 4.2 bugs (as in roaches)
Organization: City University, London
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 13:18:46 GMT

In article <6dqz7mh@rpi.edu> artist1@rdrc.rpi.edu (Artist # 1) writes:
>I have the latest, and last WP update. If you open mor than one window, the entire machine slows down, and it also seems to eat memory that does not return when you close the program. I talked to the sole remaining customer support person (I was passed on by one of the Mac people... this Amiga person works in the Mac
>area now), and he said, yes, this is somehting they broke when they made bug-fixes on the next to last version. At least it does not crash anymore. 
>
>I bought WP 'cause I thought it would never crash, and would stay around a while. Dumb thoughts... that's also why i bought Scult 4-D.

Following up a comment in an Amiga magazine, maybe one way of making
WP Corp sit up and take notice would be if all unregistered users of
WP suddenly paid up. The millions they would get in revenue would
make the marketing dept decide to release WP6.0 for the Amiga 4000.

Piracy is sickening. So is WP Corp's casual abandonment of its
customers. I suppose it is a chicken and egg situation.

>David Blair


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From: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: 2.1 Docs
Summary: No price yet
Keywords: documentation upgrade manuals
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:40:14 GMT
Reply-To: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <BvB70D.KwG@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz> davis@chem.canterbury.ac.nz writes:
>Ross Hippely - Manuals (ross@cbmvax.commodore.com) wrote:
>
>> >Is it a complete replacement for the 2.0 docs?  Does it fit in the old covers? 
>> >When can I have it?
>> 
>> Yes; No; As soon as you buy it. ;-)  (You should be able to RRSN.)
>
>any idea on likely price? I don't think people are going to be overly
>happy if they paid out for the 2.04 kit a mere 12mths ago, and are suddenly
>faced with similar costs again for what isn't as major an upgrade.

As I'm sure you know, I couldn't post a price even if I knew what it was.
However, I can say that we are planning an upgrade kit without the ROM,
for people who already have a 2.0 machine, and it is a safe bet that this
upgrade package would be considerably less expensive than the 2.04 one
that had the ROM.

>Has CBM thought of taking a leaf from apple's books and making the
>2.1 disks themselves freely distributable, and selling the manuals
>to those who want/need them (worked well for system7 on the mac).

I don't believe so.  Why not, I don't know, but I think that the
typical Amiga owner--much moreso than the Mac owner--is likely to say
"Hell, I can get by without the manuals," making it a losing proposition
for us.  2.1 is a significant upgrade, especially for non-English speakers,
and it (along with its documentation :-) is well worth your money.

>-----------------------------------------------------------
>| o      John Davis - davis@chem.canterbury.ac.nz        o |
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>| o    (Depart)mental Programmer,Chemistry Department    o |
>| o  University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand o | 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: (Where's antiflicker? (was: Re: Idea For ToolManager 3.0)
From: mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Michael Neylon)
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:21:19 EST

jh@cadre.com (Joe Hartley) writes:
: >Try using "antiflicker" by Nicolas Benezan. It works great, with the
: >right screen colors!!  Why buy a new monitor if you don't have to
: >(or cannot afford to! :^)
: 
: Anyone got an FTP pointer for this??

Found it at wuarchive.wustl.edu under systems/amiga/video/utils.

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From: eyeq@pitt.WPI.EDU (Brent Burkholder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: ToolManager 2.0 Likes/Dislikes
Date: 6 Oct 1992 13:41:49 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <vK9Nr*w+0@imart.adsp.sub.org> swb.de!imart!mickh writes:
>In article <1992Oct03.024928.17785@NeoSoft.com>, Peter da Silva writes:
>
>-> >  Ever thought that you may move the content of the 'Prefs'-Drawer into
>-> >  a Dock, and have them instantly on a hotkey ? :)
>->
>-> I can also "Leave Out" Prefs on Workbench.
>
>  And can you use _ANY_ program after an e.g. "Leave Out" (or whatever)
>  with the AppIcon-Feature?? E.g. in my Dock I have an Icon for DPaint,
>  and I can put every Picture-Icon an the Image and then DPaint will load
>  the Picture... Can you do this with the Standard-WB?
>
>   == Mick ==
>
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No, but you can once you run a program such as Appserver. A nice bonus of
this is that you can leave out "scripts" and things like that.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu)
Subject: Re: Final Copy II shipping date?
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 19:33:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.024603.1743@news.iastate.edu> taa33@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Oct5.022627.4064@jade.tufts.edu>, clin@jade.tufts.edu (Chuck (Satch) Lin) writes:
>>If anyone knows for certain whether or not Final Copy II is shipping
>>this week, please email me!
>>thanks
>>chuck
>>clin@jade.tufts.edu
>
>
>I called them today (monday) and they said that they started shipping 
>TODAY.  They went on to say, however, that it would take about two weeks
>to ship all of the orders.  
>
>Since they are shipped Airborn Express the first ones should arrive on
>Tuesday.  So some info. should be posted soon, if they are shipping TODAY!
>

  Whom did you speak with?  I ordered mine today and spoke with Mary.
  She said it should be shipping sometime later this week and I should
  expect it sometime next week.  She said they got over 2000 orders so far.

  Also I noticed on the order form that they had a box for Quantity.
  I thought that they would limit upgrades to one per person.  Of course
  I only ordered one and a volume of SoftFaces too.
From: al705@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Edith D Goldstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: RE: .PCX files and Adpro
Date: 30 Sep 1992 06:11:05 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: al705@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Edith D Goldstein)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Yes, you can load and save .pcx files to/from ADPRO, but if they are EGA
resolution, and you have an Amiga monitor, you can't see them!

You can, however, load, view, resize, and alter them in PageStream2.2
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: judd@wilkinson.cs.colorado.edu (Stephen Judd)
Subject: Re: ToolManager 2.0 Likes/Dislikes
Organization: Universtiy of Coloardo, Boulder
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 17:05:25 GMT

Hey... neat discussion.

In article <67101@cup.portal.com> Neon@cup.portal.com (Anthony Joseph Bruder) writes:
>
>In the US the common spelling of your name is Stephan.

Ah... such a noble name, a name that exudes power, authority, humility... ;^)

I have never seen it with an 'a' though.  I believe the name is biblical, ala
Stephen the martyr, and means "king".  With a 'ph' I have only seen it spelled
with an 'e'.  So, it would seem that the name of a certain well known horror-
writer / literary flyspeck is redundant.

>  Illiteracy is
>ramampant here and so you are probably lucky not to get called Steven. Come
>to think of it, you're probably lucky they get the 'S' right!

Most people that I run into haven't seen the 'ph' before, or else all the
"Stephen"s that they run into have spelled their name with a v.  I doubt
illiteracy plays a very big role.

Of course, one time a lady from Citibank called, looking for a "Stefehn Jood"...
Not even "Shtefen" or "Shtefahn".

Although I like the name Stephen better, and it is my real name, for any
colloquial situations Steve is easier, less-intimidating/formal, and makes
"Rich the copy-guy" modifications easier (Steve-o-rama, Steverino, Stevaroo).

					-Steve
				Short for you know what

>
>Please keep up the good work.  You make computing more fun for everyone.
>
>Tony Bruder - neon@cup.portal.com

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: taylors@hubcap.clemson.edu (C. Taylor Sutherland III)
Subject: Re: ToolManager 2.0 Likes/Dislikes
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:03:55 GMT


I'm having the hardest time figuring out all the little bells and
whistles of TM.  First of all, what the hell is a dock?  Second,
I can't for the life of me figure out the sound part, let alone
upd.  For this, could someone please post a small example of how
say to load a tool via TM icon or menu and have it play a sample
when you do.  I won't know whether I want it or not until I know
how to work it.

IMHO, I think the docs lack just a little.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: ummuir05@ccu.umanitoba.ca (John Derek Muir)
Subject: Bug in Tool Manager 2.0...?
Originator: ummuir05@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Keywords: Tool Manager Application
 
 
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 18:03:04 GMT
From: stelmack@thai.csee.usf.edu (Gregory M. Stelmack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Postscript interpreters (and Final Copy)
Date: 24 Sep 92 13:47:04 GMT
Reply-To: stelmack@thai.csee.usf.edu (Gregory M. Stelmack)
Organization: University of South Florida, Department of Computer Science and Engineering

In article <1992Sep22.210102.26077@fcom.cc.utah.edu>,
dave@news.ccutah.edu (dave martin) writes:
|> Is SWDownload a utility that comes with final copy, or is it
|> separate?
|> Are there PD nimbusQ typefaces available anywhere?

SWDownload comes with the SoftFaces font disks. Don't know about PD NimbusQ
typefaces, but am interested...

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From: joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: When Will 2.1 be Available?
Date: Thu,  1 Oct 92 21:38:40 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Oct1.151057.437@ifi.unizh.ch>

>In article <da_capo.05p2@amisys.abg.sub.org> da_capo@amisys.abg.sub.org (Frank
>Gaertner) writes:
>>Kick  2.1 will be shipping in the end of november (92 of course!), C= tries
>>to present it on World of Commodore in Frankfurt (26.-29.11.).
>
>There's no such thing as a Kickstart 2.1.
>
>> / Frank Gaertner : da_capo@amisys.abg.sub.org ,8900 Augsburg,Germany /   //
>
>--Martin
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: dlove@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (Dave Love)
Subject: Re: Bug in Tool Manager 2.0
Keywords: Tool Manager Bug Applications
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:10:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.123612.15402@uni-paderborn.de> tron@uni-paderborn.de (Matthias Scheler) writes:
>peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>
>>In article <1730@lysator.liu.se> boberg@lysator.liu.se (Stefan Boberg) writes:
>>>    Hotkeys can be set in the `Exec Object' group (maybe you already knew
>>> that?). Anyhow I think it's better to have it there. Having a separate 
>>> group would only complicate things.
>
>>Doesn't that apply to the "Sound" group as well?
>>-- 
>No, you may use Sound Objects for many other object, but it's impossible to
>one Hot Key twice.

Ok, but you can currently assign the same hotkey to an "Exec Object" and
a "Dock Object".  Having a Hotkey class could help prevent that.


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From: joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Final Copy II data released
Date: Thu,  1 Oct 92 21:38:21 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1afduuINNokc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <1afjajINNpba@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
  <1992Oct1.213151.11972@sfu.ca>

>If my upgrade notice was accurate, Final Copy II will become the first Amiga
>program of any type to have automatic arrow-tipped line drawing!  Even ProDraw
>3.0 doesn't have this (but Adobe Illustrator does)!

Hmm. I believe Aegis' Draw2000 has auto arrow points, as does the powerful
ExpressPaint from the now defunct Par Software and... ta-dah! - PageStream.

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From: ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: General Ledger packages?
Date: 29 Sep 92 05:27:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: galaxy.1992Sep29.122726.1038
Reply-To: EWILTS@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

I'd like some feedback on accounting packages for a small business.  My wife
just started a small company and I'd like to use the Amiga for general ledger
kind of stuff.  What packages are available that people have used?  I'm looking
for relatively low-cost (<$100) since her income isn't high enough to warrant
anything more expensive.  Commercial packages are probably preferred over
freely distributable ones (I want to go after somebody if it blows up on
accounting data!).

Any info greatly appreciated.

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From: Lloyd_Sumpter@mindlink.bc.ca (Lloyd Sumpter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Process KILL/LIST Program???
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:48:48 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> John J Humpal writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <1992Sep28.171026.12457@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
> Posted: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:10:2
>
> Org.  : HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
>
> In article <0h_p!zh@lynx.unm.edu> kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt "Some Guy" Bose)
> writes:
> >Are there any programs out there for the Amiga that appoximate the PS and
> KILL
> >commands in UNIX?  Workbench activation would be preferred...
> >
> PS Yes:  From CLI it's just "status full".  I guess you'd have do use
> IconX and a script to do it from Workbench.
>

   This doesn't quite work for me. It only shows processes that have been
launched from that process (or something..). I just ran it, and it showed four
processes runing, but not VLT or SuperbasePro, which I had launched from icons.
   Is there a utilitiy that shows ALL running processes?


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: stefanb@hathi.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stefan Becker)
Subject: Re: ToolManager 2.0 Likes/Dislikes
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 29 Sep 92 11:57:04 GMT

taylors@hubcap.clemson.edu (C. Taylor Sutherland III) writes:

>whistles of TM.  First of all, what the hell is a dock?  Second,

A dock is a collection of tools (exec, sound, images) which are bound
together in ONE window. The original idea of the dock comes from the NeXT
OS, where you could "dock" an icon to a list of icons.

>I can't for the life of me figure out the sound part, let alone
>upd.  For this, could someone please post a small example of how

1.) Start UPD in your s:user-startup (like: "RUN >NIL: -b 8192)
2.) Create a sound object with the command "file samples:boing"
3.) Link this object to a menu, icon or dock entry.

If you activate such an object now, TM sends a command via ARexx to upd.
upd tries to play the sample file "samples:boing".

For further information on the upd commands, look into the upd docs.

>IMHO, I think the docs lack just a little.

Hey, docs were the hardest part of the work :-) 

	Stefan

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