HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tim@appenzell.cs.wisc.edu (Tim Theisen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Subject: Re: GCC 2.2 for IBM/4.3?
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:03:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: appenzel.tim.718412606
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences

chet@odin.ins.cwru.edu (Chet Ramey) writes:
> From where is it available?  I lost the name of the FTP site.

You can pick up the latest gcc (2.2.2) for AOS 4.3 on IBM RTs
from ftp.cs.wisc.edu:/pub/misc/gcc-romp-2.2.2.tar.Z.  Consult
ftp.cs.wisc.edu:/pub/misc/gcc.README for more details.

...Tim

          Tim Theisen           Systems Programmer
Internet: tim@cs.wisc.edu       Department of Computer Sciences
    UUCP: uwvax!tim             University of Wisconsin-Madison
   Phone: (608)262-0438         1210 West Dayton Street
     FAX: (608)262-9777         Madison, WI   53706
Organization: Chemical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:43:37 -0400 
From: Douglas Allen Luce <dl2p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Mouse Resolution Error

Hello,

I run AOS 4.3 on an APC, and for the most part it's been running well.  

I've got a 4-port Async card that has had 16550's shoved into the 8250
sockets, and am running modified asy drivers (by Tim Theisen, Peter
Honeyman mainly) so as to keep my SLIP link running.  I've been getting
some odd crashes that I can't quite figure out:

Here's a dump from /usr/adm/messages:

Sep 28 08:15:13 telerama syslogd: restart
Sep 28 08:15:13 telerama vmunix: msreset: couldn't set resolution
Sep 28 08:15:13 telerama vmunix: asy0: input overrun
Sep 28 08:15:13 telerama vmunix: trap: mcs_pcs=0x100<MACHINE-CHECK>,
info=0x0, i
ar=0xe0003e34, ics_cs=0xa870018<CHKSTOP-MASK,XLATE,STG-PROT>
Sep 28 08:15:13 telerama vmunix: CSR=220000ff
Sep 28 08:15:13 telerama vmunix: R0 ... R3 00000a87 1ffff4b8 00000000 00000010 
Sep 28 08:15:13 telerama vmunix: R4 ... R7 00000019 1ffff508 e007d768 00400000 
Sep 28 08:15:13 telerama vmunix: R8 ... Rb 00000000 0000001a 00000000 1ffff714 
Sep 28 08:15:13 telerama vmunix: Rc ... Rf ff0049d8 e0003e18 e007d204 e001ee50 
Sep 28 08:15:13 telerama vmunix: SER=1000<LOAD> SEAR=ff000000
TRAR=f40800 TCR=10
7f<TLIPT> HAT/IPT=7f
Sep 28 08:15:13 telerama vmunix: panic: machine check
Sep 28 08:15:13 telerama vmunix: asy0: input overrun
Sep 28 08:15:13 telerama vmunix: syncing disks... 5 4 3 2 1 done

I'm a bit baffled by this; from what I can tell, the CPU was pulling in
stuff from an I/O section while this happened (asy0?), but it crashed. 
The tech docs say that there's supposed to be a bit set to prevent the
cpu from dying when an I/O error occurs.

This happens every couple of days or so.  Currently, the SLIP link is at
19200.  When I jack it up to 38400, I get similar machine checks every
couple of hours (but no "mouse resolution" messages).
 
Has anyone seen this before?

Doug
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: jamie@access.digex.com (James Treworgy)
Subject: Looking for BBS software (RBBS)?
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:29:17 GMT

I am trying to find a copy of the RBBS software... does anyone know of
an FTP site which has this? (Or other good freely distributable
bulletin board system software).  Any info about this, or about
BBS packages in general would be appreciated... Thanks,

Jamie
-- 
James A. Treworgy
jamie@access.digex.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer
From: william@chopin.udel.edu (Wild William)
Subject: How to do a change dir from file
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:01:04 GMT

I am trying to do something like this...

cd > file name
cd new.dir
cd < file name

to mimic the pushdir and popdir feature of unix.

Anyone have any ideas.

I want to do this in dos 5.0, not 4dos or ndos or anything like
that.

Thanks, Bill

-- 
William York
william@chopin.udel.edu
(302) 453 8147
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From: peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: THE WAR IS OVER
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 92 00:06:06 GMT
Organization: Global Village 1

rantapaa@s6.math.umn.edu (Erik E. Rantapaa) writes:

>delay the introduction of the P5 until early '93, these developments
>DO NOT BODE WELL for the consumer hoping to see PC prices drop further.

In that case, I'll patiently wait a little longer for a AMD or other non-Intel
486 to appear on the market (note: Cyrix's 486 is in fact a 386.5 :).

Greetings,
Peter Busser
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: migieger@delos.stgt.sub.org (Michael Giegerich)
Subject: Re: Dell SIMM != standard SIMM?
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 11:55:00 GMT
Organization: Delos Stuttgart, Germany

In article <1992Sep11.035324.26064@zeos.com> kgermann@zeos.com (Ken Germann) writes:
>Some Dell Systems, & ZEOS' New Local Bus Motherboard use 36 bit SIMMS.
>This would explain why you have SIMMS that are "not standard". You 

Dell definitely uses *standard* 36 bit SIMMS; you can find them for example
in Toshiba Data Sheets (along with cross-compatibility-lists).

Michael Giegerich


Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc:594 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:25348
From: davem@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave McCrady)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Need help identifying minscribe drive
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 22:46:10 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

ollken@plains.NoDak.edu (Scott Wilken) writes:

- Im wondering if, since it was originally setup when he bought it 4 years
- ago under dos3.3, if the CMOS info isnt incorrect.
-
- The drive is a miniscribe with the following markings on the bottom
-
- TDA:
- -----------------------
-  MODEL |HDA|PCBA|UNIQUE
- -----------------------
-  3650  |01c| 01E| 01B
- -----------------------
- UPLEVEL|   |    |
-
- Can someone tell me what the proper drive type to chose for this drive?
- I have NO info on it (IE how many megabytes it is supposed to be, if its
- MFM/RLL, etc)  The computer he uses it in doesnt have configurable drive
- types in its CMOS setup, so im stuck using the standard types..
-
   It's probably type 40 or 44.  The drive has 820 cylinders and 6 heads.
It's MFM (42MB) altho mine  works fine formatted RLL (63Mb)

Dave McCrady              davem@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.os.msdos.apps
From: ed@bcvms.bc.edu (Edmund C. Greene)
Subject: Inquiry: Open Interface by Nueron Technologies.
Organization: Information Processing Support, Boston College
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:39:56 GMT


I am inquiring if anyone has heard of a product called "Open Interface" from a
company equally called Neuron Technologies.  If anyone is aware of this
produect and they can tell me something about it I would appreciate it
greatly.

Please send all responses directly to me at: ed@bcvms.bc.edu

Edmund C. Greene
Information Processing Support
Boston College
ed@bcvms.bc.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: west@esd.dl.nec.com (Mike West)
Subject: Intel 486 price changes (Re: THE WAR IS OVER)
Organization: NEC America, Engineering & Support
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:20:10 GMT

From article <rantapaa.716976766@s6.math.umn.edu>, by rantapaa@s6.math.umn.edu (Erik E. Rantapaa):
> ...  Intel has already raised the price of the 486/33DX by
> $100, and this has caught many mail order vendors OFF GUARD.  ...
>                         Sources say this is an effort by Intel to
> combat GRAY MARKETING.  With the price between a 486/33DX and 50DX at
> only a hundred dollars or so, expect the price of the 50's to INCREASE
> SOON.

I was told the reason for the 486/33 price change was to put it closer
to the 486/50 in price to increase 486/50 sales, so the price of the
486/50 will not be going up.  The reason for this is that the 486/50
chip is faulty and Intel wants to unload them quickly.  The proof of
this is suppose to be that Intel will *not* warranty the chip at all
after sale.

Again, this is heresay.  However, if you are buying a 486/50 I would
suggest that you be *very* sure that it is warrantied.

Mike West
west@esd.dl.nec.com
Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc:616 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:25701 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:13224
From: baughman@ctron.com (Chris Baughman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED BY 4:00 TODAY!!!!
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:21:54 GMT
Reply-To: baughman@olympus.ctron.com (Chris Baughman)
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

f the software does not come with manuals, chances are it is pirated.
Dbase at least is a serious hassle without a manual.

chris
baughman@olympus.ctron.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.msdos.programmer
From: foudil@npac.syr.edu (Kamal Foudil-Bey)
Subject: rebooting from a floppy?
Organization: Northeast Parallel Architectures Center at Syracuse University (NPAC)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 20:53:55 EDT

I need a facility or a way to force my pc to reboot from drive b. How
can I accomplish that without having to open my system and switch the 
floppies?
urgent---thanks

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: fabian@alkymi.unit.no (Fabian Gonzalez)
Subject: Re: Source code to MOD format?
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 12:45:11 GMT

The person behind ModPlay has released some .OBJ files which enable you to play
mods in your program, along with an instruction on how to use the routines in the
.OBJ's.

fabian@lise.unit.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.msdos.programmer
From: perfred@idt.unit.no (Per Fredrik Solberg)
Subject: Re: rebooting from a floppy?
Organization: Div. of CS & Telematics, Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 07:38:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.205355.29934@newstand.syr.edu> foudil@npac.syr.edu (Kamal Foudil-Bey) writes:
>I need a facility or a way to force my pc to reboot from drive b. How
>can I accomplish that without having to open my system and switch the 
>floppies?
>urgent---thanks
>

There is a small utility, named bootb or something like that, that
allows you to transfer the boot process to the B drive. It is
available via anonymous ftp; Sorry, I don't remember where I saw it,
but simtel and garbo.uwasa.fi are likely candidates.


Per Solberg
perfred@idt.unit.no / pso@si.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.unix.programmer,gnu.misc.discuss,pdx.general
From: mikeh@qualis.com (Michael T. Horne)
Subject: RCS and MAKE for the PC?
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer
Organization: Qualis Design Corporation, Beaverton, OR
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:26:00 GMT


I'm looking for a *COMPLETE* version of the UNIX make and RCS utilities that
will run on a MSDOS machine (from the command line).  Is there a GNU make
and/or RCS available?  If not, is there a commercial product available?  If
you have any information regarding this, please send e-mail or call me at the
number below.

Thanks in advance...

Mike Horne
Qualis Design Corporation
mikeh@qualis.com
(503) 531-0377

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.lang.c
From: hille-leif@CS.YALE.EDU (Leif Hille)
Subject: Need help with Front End/Menuing system for C program.
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:06:11 GMT


A friend of mine has a very large MSDOS program consisting mostly of
well written C-code.  What it needs, is to be jazzed up by a really
nice front end/menuing system.  Does anybody know of software
libraries or code generating software that will help generate the
necessary code?  Any help is much appreciated.
			
                                              thanks,
                                                   Leif.
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63 SUMMIT RD                          | 3440 Goldenrod Rd, #1312
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From: wizard@r-node.gts.org (Miroslaw Kuc)
Subject: Re: Which user interface designer is best? (C-Scape et al.)
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 05:27:26 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.172630.22279@cs.yale.edu> hille-leif@CS.YALE.EDU (Leif Hille) writes:
>Hi,
>
>    I'm trying to design a neat user interface for a fairly complex
>DOS based C program.  I'm interested in portability to other platforms
>and flexibility.  It looks like there are a couple of software pakages which
>serve as aids for doing this does any body know which is the best that 
>money can buy and why.
>
>The packages I'm looking at are:  
>                        + C-Scape by Liant
>                        + POWER Screen by Blaise Computing
>                        + Greenleaf Datawindows
>                        + Vitamin C 4.0 by Creative Prog. Consltnts
>                        + Panel Plus II 2.2 by Roundhill.
>
>Any help is appreciated. 
>                        Thanks,
>                             Leif. (hille@cs.yale.edu)

Have you seen "Vermont Views" by Vermont Creative  Software.  I've used an
older version of the package for developing a user interface for an editor
for knowledge bases for expert system developed by a company I work for

I do not know how good their new version is or how it compares to 
packages mentioned above, but what I used was quite good.

Vermont Creative Software advertise often in BYTE magazine they also offer
a free demo disk if you phone 1-800-848-1248 (I just pulled out the latest
copy of BYTE. I don't go around memorizing phone numbers :)

I have not seen the demo, but woun't hurt to phone...

Good Luck!

>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Leif Hille        (hille@cs.yale.edu) | Leif Hille
>63 SUMMIT RD                          | 3440 Goldenrod Rd, #1312
>Riverside, CT 06878   ph(203)637-1300 | Winter Park, FL 32792


Miro

-- 
wizard@r-node.gts.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
From: scarnie@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Stuart George Carnie)
Subject: Scream Tracker SDK, V3.8  
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 05:30:47 GMT


Does anyone know how to get hold of the Scream Tracker programmers tool
v3.8???

If so, it would be greatly appreciated....

Taa,     Stuart Carnie


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer,alt.msdos.programmer
From: raymond@vast.unsw.edu.au (Raymond Leung)
Subject: Pascal compiler source code?
Organization: University of New South Wales, Kensington, Australia
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 08:27:37 GMT

Does anyone have a public domain Pascal compiler source code
which is compiliable under Turbo Pascal or Turbo C?

Thanks,

Raymond Leung
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++
From: hille-leif@CS.YALE.EDU (Leif Hille)
Subject: Which user interface designer is best? (C-Scape et al.)
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:26:30 GMT

Hi,

    I'm trying to design a neat user interface for a fairly complex
DOS based C program.  I'm interested in portability to other platforms
and flexibility.  It looks like there are a couple of software pakages which
serve as aids for doing this does any body know which is the best that 
money can buy and why.

The packages I'm looking at are:  
                        + C-Scape by Liant
                        + POWER Screen by Blaise Computing
                        + Greenleaf Datawindows
                        + Vitamin C 4.0 by Creative Prog. Consltnts
                        + Panel Plus II 2.2 by Roundhill.

Any help is appreciated. 
                        Thanks,
                             Leif. (hille@cs.yale.edu)
                             
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Leif Hille        (hille@cs.yale.edu) | Leif Hille
63 SUMMIT RD                          | 3440 Goldenrod Rd, #1312
Riverside, CT 06878   ph(203)637-1300 | Winter Park, FL 32792
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.msdos.programmer
From: dlittle@sscvx1.ssc.gov (DENNIS LITTLE)
Subject: Re: rebooting from a floppy?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 22:33:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.205355.29934@newstand.syr.edu>, foudil@npac.syr.edu (Kamal Foudil-Bey) writes...
>I need a facility or a way to force my pc to reboot from drive b. How
>can I accomplish that without having to open my system and switch the 
>floppies?
>urgent---thanks
Why not just set up drive b: with command.com and Autoexec.bat and
run a second copy or command.com by switching to b: and running it

me
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.lang.c
From: jch@netcom.com (Jack Hwang)
Subject: Re: Need help with Front End/Menuing system for C program.
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:52:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.220611.11419@cs.yale.edu> hille-leif@CS.YALE.EDU (Leif Hille) writes:
>
>A friend of mine has a very large MSDOS program consisting mostly of
>well written C-code.  What it needs, is to be jazzed up by a really
>nice front end/menuing system.  Does anybody know of software
>libraries or code generating software that will help generate the
>necessary code?  Any help is much appreciated.
>	

I am also in search of similar packages.  I've used TurboVision to
design my UI.  It is very easy to program in its OOP way. However,
the code size is unacceptable!  For my 70K of codes, it added another
240K for UI! 

My candidate is TCXL libraries from Innovative Data Concepts.  I've
test its shareware version from SIMTEL.  It looks pretty good.  I
also found that The Programmer's Shop is selling its commercial version
with a TesSeRact Screen Designer, and some utilities for $99.  Is there
anybody having experiences with it?

Jack Hwang
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm.digest,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: saud@seas.gwu.edu
Subject: Inboard for sale" Make your AT a 386 Machine for some $$$
Originator: saud@seas.gwu.edu
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:54:19 GMT


			For Sale


I bought this item from an auction:

	Genuine Intel>
	Inboard 386AT
	Personal Computer Enhancement

*Works with IBM PC AT, Compaq Deskpro 286, and Tandy 3000 series


If you are interested give me a call or mail a message


(703)845-8791


Wanes

P.S. I paid  $150
	     + 5% sales
	     +10% Auctioneer Fee
	-----------
	   $173.25 
If you think the price is right, let make a deal.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw)
Subject: Re: Need help identifying minscribe drive
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: net 
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:17:03 GMT

In <N4yoRB2w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> davem@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave McCrady) writes:

>ollken@plains.NoDak.edu (Scott Wilken) writes:

>- Im wondering if, since it was originally setup when he bought it 4 years
>- ago under dos3.3, if the CMOS info isnt incorrect.
>-
>- The drive is a miniscribe with the following markings on the bottom
>-
>- TDA:
>- -----------------------
>-  MODEL |HDA|PCBA|UNIQUE
>- -----------------------
>-  3650  |01c| 01E| 01B
>- -----------------------
>- UPLEVEL|   |    |
>-
>- Can someone tell me what the proper drive type to chose for this drive?
>- I have NO info on it (IE how many megabytes it is supposed to be, if its
>- MFM/RLL, etc)  The computer he uses it in doesnt have configurable drive
>- types in its CMOS setup, so im stuck using the standard types..
>-
>   It's probably type 40 or 44.  The drive has 820 cylinders and 6 heads.
>It's MFM (42MB) altho mine  works fine formatted RLL (63Mb)

>Dave McCrady              davem@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 

Sorry, but this drive has 809 cyl, 6 heads, pre-comp at cyl 300, and
the landing zone is cyl 852. That last one always gets me cause you
will hear this sucker bang against the stops sometimes when you
boot-up. I have one in my 286. A friend who also has one running in
RLL mode with a Perstor card.

One thing worth checking is the little 'paddle' on the stepper
motor shaft. I have seen the lock screw loosen on two of these
drives, and getting it back in the right position is a bear.
Other than that, and its slow seek time, it is a most reliable
drive (even if it does sound like a corn-popper :-)

Bob,

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: dks8475@u.cc.utah.edu (David Kenneth Slack/Music)
Subject: Re: Soundcard etc. recommandation wanted
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 18:51:52 GMT
From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: STEREO in SB Pro? (HELP)
Date: 4 Oct 92 00:50:43 MDT
Organization: Utah State University


Does anyone have any useful info on how to achieve Stereo affects
on the SoundBlaster Pro.  C, Pascal, but preferable Assembler, would
be my choice of language.  Any hints, or demos with source, Especially
outputting digitized voices in stereo.  
						wReam...
					     Ultimate Ninja!
					     SL859@cc.usu.edu

P.S.  These are probably trade secrets, huh?  But I really wouldn't 
protest if you could help!  :)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: Doug_Barlow@Novell.COM (Doug Barlow)
Subject: NO JOKE- GRAVIS ships tomorrow (10/2) to Canada 
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:39:20 GMT

I know just what you thought when you read the Subject line of my message,
you thought "yeah, right".  Here's the story:
----------

Well,  I just got off the phone with Gravis and the secretary said 
"it's day-to-day".  No suprises there. 

  So, she transfered me to someone "that could tell me the details".  This
was a different guy than I usually get.   He asked me where I was calling
from.  I told him the US.  He said that they will ship to Canada starting
tomorrow and that the US should get them by Wednesday.  Electronic Arts
should have them by Friday (10/9).  Also, there should appear a press
release sometime tomorrow.

  I about fell off my chair.  He said that all the software was done with
testing and that they were stuffing boxes right now.  I was so stunned
that I didn't ask him anything else.

So, it looks like "any-day-now" will be tomorrow, October 2.

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Novell, Inc.  Provo, UT
            The opinions expressed above are solely my own and
	    do not in any way represent the opinions of Novell, Inc.
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