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From: gt0021c@prism.gatech.EDU (Chris Edward Perkins)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Playin and Playin
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:41:55 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Was listening to a tape today and got to thinking about what I would
consider to be my ideal second set.  I came up with the following:

Playin -> Drumz -> Playin
encore: Shakedown Street

total time: 97 minutes

Then I thought about it a little more and realized that some might say we
need a Jerry tune during the second set.  But I did not want to upset the
general idea that this set should be focused on jamming and not songs per
se.  I mean, what makes the above so appealing is the utter audacity it
would take for a band to play the same tune for 90+ minutes but still have
it sound fresh, envigorating, and interesting...so much so that when it was
over those in attendance would marvel that it seemed to end so early.  Well,
the logical extension to this set, *IF* we *HAD* to have a second song,
would be:

Playin->Dark Star->Drumz->Dark Star->Playin
encore: Shakedown Street

total time:  99 minutes (2 extra to allow for the transitions :-)

I guess it would never happen, though I keep hoping it will, and hoping that
I am there when it does.  But I begin to wonder, as I contemplate this
fantasy show and attempt to visualize it into reality:

Would an audience stand for it?  Would 19000 people be able to deal with
hearing a one (or two) song set?  Would they grow impatient and restless,
demanding the endless jamming materialize into a familiar and different
song?  Or would they be able to kick back and explore the zillions of themes
possible with such an open and free-flowing tune such as Playin, and revel
in the ways the boys could find to hold our interest and really take us "out
there."  Would they understand the possibilities to be explored or treat it
as some kind of sick joke?

I don't know, maybe I'm sick or something, but I've never heard a Playin
that lasted long enough, that seemed to have exhausted all of its
possibilities as they presented themselves at that place and and time, that
didn't leave me wanting to rewind the tape or return in time to somewhere
near the beginning and do it all over again...

that didn't leave me utterly amazed at what those guys can do.

Just some thoughts from someone whose drive leaves him too much time to
think about completely useless stuff.

Chris (who is starting to actually like Victim, too)
-- 
Chris Perkins, Georgia Institute of Technology, MSM 1993 (?)
uucp: who cares?         Internet: gt0021c@prism.gatech.edu
'I was blind all the time I was learning to see'
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From: drlecter@admiral.uucp (Ackbar Rajapurus)
Subject: Hey all..
Reply-To: drlecter@admiral.uucp (Ackbar Rajapurus)
Organization: The Grid/Waffle BBS, 203-661-2873, -1279, -0450, -2967
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:23:21 GMT


 Sorry to waste bandwidth.. but...
         I know there are alot of super collector\taper\demigods out 
there.. I know of one who offered people with small collections to dub, 
and charged only $4 for blanks.. I was wondering if anyone has a few 
addresses of such traders or (how should i say it..) tape sellers? If you 
have succesfully bought tapes from someone, drop me a line? 
      and to save space, just mail me.. and no diatribes against the 
evils of capitalism!

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From: julianjd@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re:Comes a Time
Date: 10 Nov 92 11:35:08 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

Someone recently enquired about excellent performances
of Comes a Time.  One to check out is the 6/24/85 show
at Riverbend Music Center in Cincinnati.  This is one
of the most incredible second sets I've ever heard.

The Other One is simply beautiful.  They start with
Cryptical Envelopment.  Drums and Space follow as part
of the song.  After space, it sounds like they will
do the Other One but go into Comes a Time.  Then they
finish off the Other One and with the closure of Cryptical
Envelopment.  

This set list:  Aiko Aiko/Samson and Delilah/He's Gone/
Smokestack Lighting (a very fine version)/Cryptical Envelopment/
Drumz/Space/Comes a Time/The Other One/Cryptical Envelopment/
Around and Around/Good Lovin' encore: U.S. Blues.  (I'm pulling
this from memory so pardon me if I didn't get this set list 
correct).  I would encourage anyone who appreciates The Other
One to get a hold of this show.

**It left a smoking crater in my mind I'd like to blow away.**

Jak
From: sheila_momaney@rad-mac1.ucsf.EDU (Sheila Momaney)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Greg Brown
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:44:45 GMT
Reply-To: sheila_momaney@rad-mac1.ucsf.EDU
Organization: The Internet

GatorMail-Q                   Greg Brown
So, fishing season must over by now, and has
anyone heard anything about Greg Brown doing
shows this fall or (soon to be) winter?  I
caught him at the Freight and Salvage in 
Bezerkeley last year but nobody's seen or 
heard from him since.  Excuse the nondead
content and please e-mail me if you know the
whereabouts and happenings of Greg.

Also, just a little disclaimer:  although I
have been stuck with the nickname "Wheels",
I am not not not a wheelie!
--sheila for now
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From: GLADSTONE@csmcmvax.bitnet
Subject: Net.fragmentation
Reply-To: GLADSTONE@csmcmvax.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:03:18 GMT

        So now it's the wheelies.  Next, I suppose it'll be the Nealies.
This is starting to sound like a bad ethnic joke.
How many (your least favorite ethnic group here) does it take to screw up
a good newsgroup.   Stealies,  Dealies,  Healies...  Where will it all end ?
Joe Lone Wolf Gladstone>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: kstox@admips2.Berkeley.EDU (Ken Stox)
Subject: re: Better DEAD than a DEADHEAD
Reply-To: kstox@admips2.Berkeley.EDU (Ken Stox)
Organization: AC Nielsen Co.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 14:25:40 GMT

This guy doen't happen to drive a Porsche ? Does he ?

-- 
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From: Phydeaux <reb@ingres.com>
Subject: Dead cover bands
Reply-To: reb@ingres.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:33:10 GMT

| By the way, I have
|to say this SOLAR CIRCUS SUCKS.  They are hands down the worst bunch of no
|talents I have ever seen.  Why RELIX chose to put so much money behind them
|is beyond me.  

AMEN to that!  Why people insist that they are so wonderful I'll never
know, but to each his own...
					reb
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Sheila Momaney <sheila_momaney@rad-mac1.ucsf.EDU>
Subject: Greg Brown
Reply-To: sheila_momaney@rad-mac1.ucsf.EDU
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:40:25 GMT

GatorMail-Q                   Greg Brown
So, fishing season must over by now, and has
anyone heard anything about Greg Brown doing
shows this fall or (soon to be) winter?  I
caught him at the Freight and Salvage in 
Bezerkeley last year but nobody's seen or 
heard from him since.  Excuse the nondead
content and please e-mail me if you know the
whereabouts and happenings of Greg.

Also, just a little disclaimer:  although I
have been stuck with the nickname "Wheels",
I am not not not a wheelie!
--sheila for now


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Randy Schechter <randys@sun1.wwb.noaa.gov>
Subject: 6/26/92 Neil Young tape (NO DEAD CONTENT!!!!!!!)
Reply-To: randys@sun1.wwb.noaa.gov
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:09:05 GMT

I believe I have now satisifed all requests for the above mentioned tapes,
with the exception of:

                      Jerry Wayne Johnston
                      Thang Nguyen
                      Jimm--JAFST8@vms.cis.pitt.edu

all of whom I've contacted several times but they still haven't
sent me a blank tape to make their copy--the ball is in your court
now!!!
Sorry for posting something about Neil Young here but this was more or
less some unfinished business. To those Neil Young fans who have missed
previous posts regarding the Neil Young bulletin board, the address to 
e-mail to be added to the list is:

    rust-request@death.corp.sun.com

Remember this is the address to get added to the subscrition list.

Now back to the infantile Dead Flame wars



P.S.--To those of you who care, today is Neil Young's birthday.
He's 47 years Young (I think?)
                                     Randy
From: cjs39035@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Christian Shay )
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Better DEAD than a DEADHEAD!
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:48:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxBDxA.6rC
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Yaaaaawnnn.
Either a joke, or somebody in search of flame war.
But I thought we had agreed not to respond to stuff like this?
Joke back or ignore him. He'll go away soon.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Ed Craig <CRAIG@mitvma.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Roger Miller (1936-1992)
Reply-To: CRAIG@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:14:36 GMT

Remembered a part of another verse....

On 6 Nov 1992 16:51:12 GMT you said:
|In article <1992Nov5.184838.26634@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
|russellg@tramp.Colorado.EDU
| (Glenn Russell) writes:
|>OK, can anyone help fill in some of the missing lyrics to this classic.  I
|>know a few but need some help.  Going from memory...
|>
|>>"trailer for sale or rent
|rooms to let 50 cents
|>No phone, no pool, no pets
|>I ain't got no cigarettes.
|>
|>Two hours of pushing broom
|>Buys an 8X12, 4 bit room
                4 bed?
|Old worn out suit and shoes
|>I don't pay no union dues
|>>I'm a man of means by no means
|>>KING OF THE ROAD..."
|>
|3rd boxcar, midnight train
|Destination, Bangor, Maine
???
I know every engineer on every train,
All of their children,
& all of their names
???
|>I smoke old stogies I have found
|>Short, but not too big around.
|>I'm a man of means by no means
|>KING OF THE ROAD
|....
|jimh@west.sun.com
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From: Sheila Momaney <sheila_momaney@rad-mac1.ucsf.edu>
Subject: Greg Brown
Reply-To: sheila_momaney@rad-mac1.ucsf.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:02:55 GMT

GatorMail-Q                   Greg Brown
So, fishing season must over by now, and has
anyone heard anything about Greg Brown doing
shows this fall or (soon to be) winter?  I
caught him at the Freight and Salvage in 
Bezerkeley last year but nobody's seen or 
heard from him since.  Excuse the nondead
content and please e-mail me if you know the
whereabouts and happenings of Greg.

Also, just a little disclaimer:  although I
have been stuck with the nickname "Wheels",
I am not not not a wheelie!
--sheila for now
From: jko@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: Re: Compton ticket scam???
In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 08 Nov 92 12:24:01 -0700.
             <92313.122401AGRGB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Date: 9 Nov 92 03:12:06 GMT


Here's one Deadhead's observation about the reserved seating at
Compton Terrace.

There are only 2000 reserved seats at the venue (very small considering
the venue can hold 20000+ with all the general admission)

It was probably difficult to get reserved seats this time since they
allowed phone orders to purchase the reserved seats along with the
walk-in outlets.  Thus, 2000 seats will not last long if each person
is buying more than 1 ticket.  I got thru the phone line at 10:15 and
got reserved for saturday, but while my order was being processed for
saturday, sunday reserved sold out.  Just goes to show - they were going
quick!

Also, last time (1990 December) the Dead played Compton Terrace, reserved
seats were ONLY sold to local walk-in Dillard's outlets - phone orders were
only sold general adm.

my $.02

James
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Phosphor dots, eh?
From: <MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:29:11 EST
 <BxKIs5.1rL@well.sf.ca.us><92316.161245MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com><1992Nov11.2
 20735.7955@sunspot.noao.edu><92317.070848MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company


In article <92317.070848MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>, Joe Doheny
<MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com> says:
>
>Maybe we can LEARN from our Joe Hack experience.  Maybe we can make ourselves
>better from it?  If we don't, we've just wasted all our time.
>
>Joe Doheny

'Learn from the Joe Hack experience'????  What kind of a FOOL are you?  This
guy has posted some pretty negative shit here, about net.heads and our way of
life.  I've heard about him doing other stuff to other net.heads too.  Mr.
Joe Doheny, You are lower than a snakes belly in a wagon rut!!!

Oh f%$#, I'm flaming myself?

Joe Doheny ;-) ;-) ;-)
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: I need a ride!
Date: 4 Nov 92 22:44:01 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Stanford University

In article <1992Nov3.215443.29754@sol.UVic.CA> edean@sol.UVic.CA (Elizabeth Dean) writes:
>I'm looking for Seattle/Vancouver area people that are heading down to Oakland for the December 11, 12, and 13th shows.  I've got tickets, but no ride :( .

Guess GDTS is getting pretty good at turnaround... ;-)

Bill
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Rabid Deadheads
Date: 10 Nov 1992 10:20:16 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

please let's remember that we're all in this together, let's try to
share harmony on the .net. and keep our personal arguments in email;
differing opinions are welcomed by us all, but i personally don't
like watching other people fight ... :)

"never argue with a maroon because an onlooker won't be able to tell
who's who"

just a thought

spread whirled ppppps
lara
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From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: Personal to Todd Brown
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 18:51:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.123459.5194@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> Tom_Jacobs@qms1.life.uiuc.edu writes:
>Personal to Todd Brown
>
>lara writes:
>|staring at "for lara, ken kesey" thanks to U!  :):):); also people
>|guaranteed always to delight and amaze me are todd brown and tom
>|"amorphous middle name" jacobs,
>
>OK Todd, lay off.  She's MINE.
>
>Tom "Net.duel! Film at 10!" J
>
>
>:-)
>
>

She is? I thought she was her own woman:-) We'll just keep her
spinin' in amazement:-)

We'd better be careful though, someone is going to think we have one
of those "private" mail list going:-) :-) ;-0
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>TODD|-ODD-|:-)                   |         Nothing Left To Do But  <
>brown@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu  /|\             :-) :-) :-)        <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/ | \<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: michael@wang.com (michael aldrich)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Tape database
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:38:28 GMT
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA

blewis@helix.nih.gov (barbara lewis) writes:

>I am looking for a database program to keep track of my tape collection and
>hopefully be able to print cassette box labels as well.  I would appreciate
>any info on such a program that runs in a DOS environment and doesn't
>require a postscript printer.  I don't have windows yet and have seen some
>things available for that environment.  An FTP site of such a program would
>be greatly appreciated.

>Barb
	i would be very interested in the same only for the unix system
	any pointers wold be appriciated..
	cheers michael
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From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re: 10-27-91 (Analog) Tree Announcement
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 00:52:13 GMT


Is David Graham's little speech after the first set on there?
It's an awesome tape anyway, but listening to his talk brings
back teh memories of the all the points of light (is it cool
to start saying that again? :-) as thousands held their lighters
aloft that evening. 

Bill
From: eds@po.CWRU.Edu (Ethan D. Siegel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: bruce playing hoops
Date: 10 Nov 1992 17:07:05 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


A couple of summers ago I was fortunate and got backstage passes
to a hornsby show.  I was equally fortunate in that Branford 
was a surprise guest at that show (Jones Beach).  Anyhow, point
of the story is that these two fellas, who both make their 
livings off their hands, played hoops backstage for a good 1/2 
hour before the show.  Both were pretty good, but got to give
the edge to Bruce b/c of his height.  I just found it funny
to see these two guys clowning around like that before the show,
and that they are fun guys.  They even horsed around with my
buddy a little who got to play against them in a short 2 on 2
not 15 minutes before the show began!  By the way, great show,
everyone should try and see bruce alone!

Ethan

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From: DAMATO@unc.oit.unc.edu (Victor A D'Amato)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: "Wanted: Dead and Alive" on CD
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:21:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Nov13.002142.2137
Reply-To: DAMATO@unc.oit.unc.edu
Organization: The Internet

David Bromberg's "Wanted Dead and Alive" (I think that's the title)
is now out on CD.  I saw it advertised in Noteworthy Music's Catalog.
This is the one that has about 1/2 of the songs with members of the
Dead--or so I'm told.

Vic
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From: yazz@locus.com (Bob Yazz)
Subject: What are Gen Adm Seats like at Compton Terrace?
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:05:19 GMT


Anyone care to describe the seating at Compton Terrace?

One friend I'm going with wouldn't be comfortable in a "lawn" type
situation, so I'm wondering if you actually get chairs, cement
bleachers, or quite what.

Thanks

== Bob Yazz ==
-- 

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sickness itself.
From: grady@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Parisian Deadheads/4th day of July
Date: 12 Nov 1992 21:24:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu




 
 
 


 

Here's the type of thing that can happen to a (lucky) deadhead
wandering through Paris (true story to follow):

I had been wandering around France by train for about a month, lying
on the beach, drinking wine, going to museums, hiking in the Alps, riding the  
train and hitch-hiking. It had been really great, and I had saved Paris for 
last. I got there on the 4th of July and spent the morning running around in
the rain trying to line up a room in a hostel. Then I strolled around the
town for the rest of the day enjoying the sights (and the sights in Paris
aren't bad!) This was my first time in France. 

At about 10pm I decided to head back to my hostel and get some sleep.
I was passing by a club/restaurant called Front Page and saw a sign
saying something like Fourth of July party, Americans welcome, West
Coast music live. There was a skeleton on the poster, so I wondered
if they meant THAT kind of "west coast music." This was obviously a
pretty interesting way to pass some time on my first trip to Paris.
I'd have a beer, hear a Dead tune or two, and have a great story to
tell my friends back in Berkeley.

To make a long story a little less long, I got talking to a woman inside
who turned out to be a friend of the band and she said they were bummed
because one of the guitar player/singers hadn't shown up. I said that
was too bad, and joked that I should have brought my guitar. She went
and talked to the band, they brought me to the dressing room to find
out if I could really play or sing Dead tunes (I told them that I play
in a band in the Bay Area and demonstrated my command of Bertha, Eyes
of the World, etc.) and they said OK, what the Hell? (By the way, 
this all happened in French. These guys were all Parisians who just
happen to love the Dead.) They loaned me a spare guitar.

The club was full and the crowd was up (it seems like Europeans
appreciate live music in general more than Americans, who are
often pretty blase). We opened at about 10:30 with Bertha --
I sang it -- and closed at about 4AM! There was a big smile on
my face the whole time because I just couldn't believe it was
happening! Spending my first night in Paris playing Dead tunes all night
in a packed club! By the way, they were just as blown away as I was.
There's more to this story because I ended up hanging
out with the band for most of the rest of the week I was in Paris,
but I've already gone on a while here.

Sure am glad I knew those tunes :)

If you're in Paris, check out Train Fantome.
(Also, if you're in Berkeley, check out Skeleton Key -- not many Dead
covers, but some identifiable inspiration ;). We're playing at
Starry Plough 9-10pm Th Nov 12, etc.

Joe "le Californien"
From: lstein@adobe.com (Larry Stein)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Joe Hack,   Al Gore,  Tipper and Frank Zappa,  et al.
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:46:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: maca507.lstein-131192093642
Followup-To: rec.music.gdead
Organization: Adobe Systems

>         While on the subjuct of FZ, one thing some of my friends and I have
> noticed:  after leaving a Dead show we are on cloud nine.  Turning on the
> radio and listening to any other sort of MuZak actually proves painful
> to the ears and mind.  One consistent exception is FZ.  He seems to be
> very listenable after a show.  A question for youall in netland.  What
> sounds can you tolerate right after a show?  ( GD excepted, of course )
> 
> Shutup and play yer guitar!!!
> Joe Lone Wolf Gladstone>  <GLADSTONE@CSMCMVAX.BITNET>

   
    About the only thing I can tolerate after a Dead show is Coltrane
    (prior to 1966) and Miles (from the 50's and 60's).  I find this
    music very soothing and relaxing.

    More Grateful Dead (on tapes, that is!) is the last thing I want
    to hear after a show.  I've never been able to fathom how people
    can listen to a Dead tape after a Dead show.  Personally, I like
    to let the live Dead experience sink in after a show.

    In fact, I usually stop listening to the Dead about a week before
    a run of live shows.  Makes the anticipation that much better!

       (gee...i guess that means i should stop listening to GD tapes 
          on...let's see...oh, around December 4th...)

    --larry 
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From: Victor A D'Amato <DAMATO@unc.oit.unc.edu>
Subject: best Comes a Time
Reply-To: DAMATO@unc.oit.unc.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:56:09 GMT

5-9-77 Buffalo, NY -- Weir waits a good, long time before jumping
                      into Sugar Mag.  Sweet, sweet, sweet...
                      and out of a cookin NFA jam-fest, to boot!

Vic
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