From: pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M. Koloc)
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: Evol & God : CANNOT Co-exist! ---->   Physics of GOD
Date: 28 Aug 92 08:50:29 GMT
Reply-To: pmk@promethe.UUCP (Paul M. Koloc)
Organization: Prometheus II, Ltd.

In article <GERRY.92Aug27092700@onion.cmu.edu> gerry@cmu.edu (Gerry Roston) writes:
>[meaningless drivel deleted]
>
>The cause of the Big-Bang 15 billion years ago is unknown.  Its cause
>can not be determined using the scientific method because the
>hypothesis can not be tested (since we don't know what was before the
>Big-Bang, as if that's even a meaningful concept...)  

But a few among us can think so it is likely that several possible
explanations or workable scenarios will arise, of which one may 
have a reasonable probability of being believable or close enough
(scientifically accepted).  

We can look further and therefore farther into the past with
more accuracy so we well might distinguish between these hypotheses.  
It is likely that some primordial form of the universe may exist 
right through and for several billions of years after the Big Bang 
and are "as now seen"  hidden in the cores of quasars or galaxies.  
Although it may not be viewable itself, the gradual bleeding of its 
primordial ragged edges will be visible as a colossally huge power 
injection (beyond fusion, star collapse, cold fusion, etc.) as its 
special matter transforms to that of this universe.  Perhaps such 
chunks gave rise to quasars which then decayed into galaxies.   


>         . . .             .           .         Anyway, it might
>not be too far out to claim that god was the cause of the Big-Bang
>(but then what was the cause that created god?), and that since the
>Big-Bang, evolution (atronomical, biological, etc) has been the
>driving force in the universe.

But God being so immutable and powerful would not be or have to be so 
constantly attentive.  It would seem that once existence outside of 
God was, then that existence probably had all of the information 
theory rules (hyperphysics, physics, etc.) to cascade to the present 
day forms matter in of the other universes.  

Universes?? 

Since we are clearly 3 spacial dimensional beings then our matter 
MIGHT exist (in suitable transformed states) in both or one of the 
other certainly likely dimensions of "2" and "1".  That is to say
we are up here in "3" then "1 and 2" must exist.  "1" (ONE) is the
simplest is the most likely dwelling for God.  

The physics are such:  GOD is infinite in mass/energy/information 
density, Time with this Object is not passing, yet for it the stroke 
of its instantaneous NOW exists infinitely in to the past and future 
simultaneously.  

The physics of GOD is drived from the rumor descriptions such as 
found in the bible, religion, or on money, etc.  For example "is 
eternal" which translates: HE must be of infinite density (absolute 
time dilation) and of infinite spacial extent.  Outside of God 
(before the bang or more elementary bangs) there was nothing.  
No information, energy mass, measure, filled multi-dimension 
Just:		            
                            -  ZIP - .

Imagine that like some think, a black hole of small cross-section
(Here a one dimensional object as seen by a "two dimensional space 
being")  will begin to evaporate just a relatively infintesmal 
amount.  Now where there was nothingness initially outside of GOD, 
but with evaporation there is now being and nothingness mixed, as 
it were,  to form a strange set of matter/s, which has not infinite 
density.  What this new dense stuff does have is two dimensional 
extent .

Matter of two space exists as a multiplicity since its extent can be 
delineated by linear (and one dimensional [real]) curves. This is 
also very different than the Grand ONE Dimension and its Creator 
occupant which is a pure monolith and non-divisible (zero dimension 
is null unless as the intersection of lines such as in two space).     

One day in a very far reach of this Hypermatter world a storm took
place, a kind of micro hypermatter hurricane if you will.  But this 
storm produced a bit of two dimensional deformation (in the surface) 
which caused this tiny stormy patch to fracture and scatter forth 
into a 3 space like and exploding window pane.  From the edges of 
these very thin fragments bleed enormously compact hyper state energy 
which leaked and then roared to life in a new 3-D form with the 
identical fury of a quasar birth.  Voila, our Cosmos.

So now just Who are We .. just the star dust of the dust-like stars 
of a decayed quasar which is the flotsam or jetsam of a much denser 
more information packed universe which condensed from the light of 
the Grand One Dimension (GOD).   Kind of puny ... huh!   Almost like
being bacteria on a dusty pathway.  Sort blessed we ain't but
the fleeting phosphoresent image of a character on Nick an Nite video 
show  .. . 'er  .. .  or are we?.         :-)


>Voila, god and evolution... no problem.
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