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From: anton@HQ.Ileaf.COM (steve norton)
Subject: Re: sax mouthpieces
Reply-To: anton@HQ.Ileaf.COM (steve norton)
Organization: interleaf, inc., waltham, ma, usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 13:45:16 GMT

In article <19920903155604.2.TOROSIAN@GANESH.MCC.COM> ai.torosian@mcc.com (Dan Torosian) writes:
>
> One factual correction to another posting on this subject -
> 
> The numbering system for Berg Larsens is like this:  
> 
[excellent details on the first two numbers deleted--thanks dan!]
>
> The third designation is either 'M' or 'SMS'.  This has to do with the
> shape of the opening under the reed (I believe it's called the 'facing',
> but I've heard that term misused so much that I don't really know).  The
> 'M' is wider (for American reeds, I've been told), and the 'SMS' seems
> to be a little tapered (for French reeds).  I don't know how much of a
> difference this makes, but I know it's not as crucial as the opening and
> the baffle height.  Actually, I'm playing with someone now who has the
> exact same model as I do, but I've got the 'M' facing, and he's got the
> 'SMS'.  I've been sufficiently incurious about this that I've never
> checked his mouthpiece.  Oh well.
> 
> Hope this helps.

i thought that the third designation was for the chamber size/shape.
or is that what you mean by the "shape of the opening under the reed"?
the length of exposed rail between the tip and where the reed meets
the rail is called the lay.  is that what you were refering to?
i'm not exactly sure what the "facing" is.  i think it's a sort of
general term, sometimes used as synonymous with tip opening.
-- 

/steve
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From: matt@volga.Berkeley.EDU (Matt Wright)
Subject: Re: Info on Joe Lovano (sp ?)
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 03:53:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.205846.25216@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer) writes:
>Yes, Lovano is high on my list of tenor players.  [...]
>There is another one with a larger ensemble and Bill Frisell and a
>vocalist which I heard, but can't remember the name.  But it is very
>good.

I think you mean "Worlds", by the Joe Lovano Wind Ensemble: Joe Lovano
(Tenor, Alto, Alto clar.), Bill Frisell (gtr), Tim Hagans (trum), Paul
Motian (drums), Judi Silverman (Soprano Voice), Henri Texier (Bass), and
Gary Valente (Trombone).

I'd never heard of any of them except for Frisell/Lovano/Motian.  Silverman
is *amazing* on this record; her approach sounds very "horn-ish" to me.

I found the CD in London on a vacation there, and haven't seen it in the
US.  It's on "Label Bleu", so maybe it's not available in the US at all...

(Also, the liner notes say: "The Wind Ensemble will be a functioning group,
existing at times without the rhythm section, as a true chamber ensemble."
Does anybody know anything about this?)

-Matt

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From: gretsky@sonia.math.ucla.edu (Neil Edward Gretsky)
Subject: Re: possible Miles Davis tribute
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 20:06:32 GMT

Disclaimer: what follows is just MHO.

I saw the Miles Davis tribute band (Herbie Hancock-Wayne Shorter-
Ron Carter-Tony Williams-Wallace Roney) at a club in Redondo Beach last
night. This is no nostalgia trip. See these guys live if at all
possible while this tour is on. The big 4 are definitely the 
"modern jazz giants" (to borrow a title from an early Miles album).
While the tribute is a celebration of Miles' music and deals
with tunes associated with him, it does not (in true Miles fashion) 
look backwards at all. Roney acquits himself admirably but he is not MD
and he is not arrogant enough to think he is.
Their set last night brought a new meaning to modern acoustic mainstream.
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From: mece1xg@Jane.UH.EDU (purna)
Subject: ummm....question? AND bonnie raitt (was Re: bb king is giving me the blues
Reply-To: mece1xg@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:42:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.173642.21385@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.130024.15586@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> elliott@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Elliott New) writes:
>>In article <920824144901@joker.ftp.com> rodin@ftp.com writes:

hi guys!

just a question.  what does all of this arguing have to do with jazz or blues?
just wondering......


ObBLUES:
well, i have been reading about Bonnie Raitt and the way she got started,
her guitar playing technique, etc.  found out she STILL uses a cut neck
from an old wine bottle for that smooth slide sound on her steel National.
also, she was originally influenced by people like Joan Baez and Bob Dylan
until she got to college (Radcliffe, i believe).  there, during those
"ugly" acid-rock years (early 70s), bonnie was disgusted with the music,
until she started listening to the blues.  the rest, as they say, is history.

-purna
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From: rstump@itchy.geog.albany.edu (Roger Stump)
Subject: New DIW releases -- impressions wanted
Organization: Geography and Planning, University at Albany
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 22:25:13 GMT

I think I skimmed over a post about some recent DIW releases within the
past week, but I had just returned from vacation and wasn't paying enough
attention to remember what it said.  Anyway, I saw a few new DIWs in the
record store today, and wondered if anyone had recommendations.  They were:

Art Ensemble of Soweto, AMERICA / SOUTH AFRICA
Andrew Cyrille Quintet, I REMEMBER LOUIS
David Murray Special Quartet, ???? (with Fred Hopkins, McCoy & Elvin; has
   versions of Hope/Scope and In a Sentimental Mood)

Impressions, anyone?  Thanks.
-- 
Roger W. Stump
University at Albany
rstump@itchy.geog.albany.edu
From: MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (M.A. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: BLUES: Robbin Ford Power Trio recommendations?
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:06:51 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

In article <BtM03x.n2I@apollo.hp.com>, deal_j@apollo.HP.COM (John Deal) says:
>
>I saw from SunFest 91 on the old VH1 New Visions show the Robbin Ford Trio
>do a couple of real nice blues tunes (one was 'Help the Poor' but I forget
>the title of the second one).  Would anybody out there have any
>recommendations
>for Robbin Ford blues stuff?

Yup.  Definitely pick up _Talk To Your Daughter_.

              Ford, Robben
              Talk To Your Daughter
              1988  Warner Brothers
              Time -  41:24
              Tracks -  9
              Catalog Number - 25647-1
              Source - LP
              -------------------------------
              Talk to Your Daughter
              Wild About You (Can't Hold Out Much Longer)
              Help the Poor
              Ain't Got Nothin' But the Blues
              Born Under a Bad Sign
              I Got Over it
              Revelation
              Getaway
              Can't Let Her Go

-------

                                            Murph

                                            Michael A. Murphy
                                            MURPH@MAINE.BITNET

If you do not understand my silence
you will not understand my words.
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From: karen.aberli.1@nd.edu (Karen Aberli)
Subject: Blues - Dayton, OH area
Followup-To: rec.music.bluenote
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:26:34 GMT

Are any of you Blues fans in the Dayton area familiar with a band led by
Snapper Mitchum?  He was known as Snapper and the Blues Invaders at one
time.  I don't know if the name has changed or not.  Please let me know
what you think of the group if you have heard them.  Thanks a lot.

Karen Aberli

karen.aberli.1@nd.edu
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From: hsu@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (William Tsun-Yuk Hsu)
Subject: Re: VICTORIAVILLE '92 schedule
Organization: UIUC Center for Supercomputing Research and Development
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 01:23:25 GMT

braden@kronecker.mit.edu (Tom Braden) writes:

>Specifically, are the LJCO or Braxton coming to Boston?

Well Tom, get this: LJCO is playing Chicago first week of Oct as its
only US date. The orchestra plays in Evanston, then small groups will
play at Southends Musicworks.

This of course has to happen after Tom and I (who probably accounted for
90% of the Chicago improv postings in the past 4 years) move away. Hey
somebody has to pick up the slack for Chicago. I'll be lazy for awhile;
Seth lives in the Bay area too :-)

Bill (really in SF, but pretending to be in IL)




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From: saul+@pitt.edu (Alan B Saul)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: TV show with Don Pullen
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:43:51 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Speaking of TV shows, I was lucky enough to catch "Don Pullen and the
African-Brazilian Connection" last night on the local secondary educational
channel. It was taped in Virginia in 1991, featured a lot of great playing
by a quintet, including Carlos Ward on alto and flute. There was an 
interview in the middle, didn't sound very exciting but went through some
dry background. 
Anyway, this extended capture of great music is definitely something to
check out if it becomes available to you.

Alan Saul
unix.cis.pitt.edu


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From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote,rec.music.newage,rec.music.cd
Subject: INEO by Terje Rypdal  ?
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 17:06:10 EST
Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC
Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth)
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4

 
 Anyone know what album INEO is on by Terje Rypdal?

Please reply by e-mail.  


Thanks in advance!

David
david@roth-music.com
From: vek@spacsun.rice.edu (Vincent E. Kargatis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Old and New Dreams
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:15:04 GMT
Organization: Rice University

smehta@kwela.nynexst.Com (Sandeep Mehta) writes:
> There are a lot of recording with one or more ex-members of Ornette's
> group but I don't know of specific titles under the OaND name.

There's also A TRIBUTE TO BLACKWELL (120113) recorded in Atlanta, 1987, at
the Ed Blackwell Tribute concert series, I think. Haven't heard it,
though.
-- 
| Vincent Kargatis                      |  "It was jump or die."              |
| Dept. of Space Physics and Astronomy  |                                     |
| Rice University, Houston, TX          |      Marilyn Crispell to Anthony    |
| [vek@spacsun.rice.edu]                |        Braxton on his Comp. 69C     |
From: Paco Ojeda-Gonzalez <Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Gary Burton fans?
Date: 31 Aug 1992 13:30:53 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation
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X-XXDate: Mon, 31 Aug 92 14:38:18 GMT

I have been listening to Gary Burton's latest three recordings, "Cool
Nights" (with Bob James) "Reunion" with Pat Metheny and "Benny Rides
Again" with Eddie Daniels, doing all Bennie Goodman tunes with a twist
and enjoy the albums a lot.

Has anybody out there heard these? Any opinions?

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From: elliott@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Elliott New)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Looking for Hollywood Fats
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:31:31 GMT
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.

In article <1992Sep3.013325.21944@math.ucla.edu> gretsky@sonia.math.ucla.edu (Neil Edward Gretsky) writes:
>I believe that Hollywood Fats also played with the Blasters,
>which was the Dave & Phil Alvin rock/blues/bar band. (I think
>Lee Allen was also in this outfit.)
>

True.  Fats played w/the Blaster for about 6 months, right before he died.
He also played some with the Paladins.  I heard he was trying to get the
Hollywood Fats Band back together, and maybe even did a gig or two with
them before he died. 

He also played with Muddy Waters and Jimmy Witherspoon in his early days.

Elliott New
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From: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Subject: Re: Robert Johnson
Reply-To: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:26:15 GMT

The movie 'Crossroads' was not about the life of Robert Johnson,
it was about some white kid, Ralph Machhio-the Karate Kid, shifting
his musical tastes towards blues and Robert Johnson's music specifically.
He finds an alleged friend of Robert Johnson's in a nursing home who was
the fabled 'Willie Brown' mentioned in RJ's Crossroads tune.  Ry Cooder
played some great slide for the soundtrack.  But I didn't feel that the
movie gave much history/background about Blues or Robert Johnson

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From: U30644@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Night Music w/ David Sanborn (was: Re: possible Miles Davis tribut
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:14:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: uicvm.92241.151419U30644
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago


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>I remember seeing on that show:  Phil Woods, Sonny Rollins, Benny Carter,
>Toots
>Thielemans, Pat Metheny, Bill Frisell, and lots of others.  Willner would find
>still-living '60s R&B/pop singers like Chuck Jackson and Fontella Bass, and   e
>hav
>them sing their old hits.  There was a stunning show that featured James
>Taylor
>and Milton Nascimento singing separately and together (with Nana Vasconcelos
>on
>percussion).  Slim Gaillard was still alive then, and he sang "Cement Mixer"
>on
>the show, with Marcus Miller filling in the jive-talking Slam Stewart part on
>bass.  Sting appeared as the bass player in Fareed Haque's band (!) and sang
>"Ain't No Sunshine", with Bill Frisell sitting in.

Jeez, what a fucking great show!!  I remember Debby Harry doing some
beautiful vocal work with the band, Carla Bley on the show, her daughter
doing a number with Sanborn's son, Abbie Lincoln, etc.  What a shame it's
not on anymore...

Does anyone know if it's still in syndication anywhere????


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From: wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery)
Subject: Re: Coltrane recommendation...
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:37:55 GMT
Keywords: coltrane

shashaan@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Ali Shashaani) writes:
>
>	I bought Coltrane's "Africa/Brass" albume last week and have
>been listening to it nonstop (God bless my patient neighbors!)  What
>an amazing CD.  What would you say are other great collections like
>it--or better?  I had always enjoyed his performances with Miles, but
>this album is something else.

The only thing that he did that even comes close to this in style (namely,
a larger ensemble with some fairly structured compositions/arrangements
that Trane solos over) is OLE on Atlantic. But even that is a smaller
group (of great musicians like Dolphy and Hubbard), and is somewhere
between Africa and Trane's early 60s quartet/quintet (with Dolphy) work.

Bill Hery
AT&T Bell Labs
201-386-2362
hery@att.COM
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From: ger@cv.ruu.nl (Ger Timmens)
Subject: Re: Hugh Masekela (was Two of my current favourites
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 10:07:01 GMT
Organization: University of Utrecht, 3D Computer Vision Research Group


He did also some albums with Herp Alpert;
I've four or five records of him, but I don't know the titles of them
by head. If you're interested I'll look them up for you.
-- 
Ger Timmens (ger@cv.ruu.nl) 3DCV Research Group, Utrecht, The Netherlands
Tel.: +31 -30 50 67 11;      Room: F.01.7.03;      Fax.: +31 -30 51 33 99
.....I'd rather hear Chet miss a note, than Wynton make a thousand......
Chet - Miles - Kenny - Lee - Arturo - Fats - Wynton - Art - Louis - Bix -
From: exubma@exu.ericsson.se (Bassam Madi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Bluenote Scrapbook
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:57:19 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems

In article <92245.154315FKR@psuvm.psu.edu> FKR@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Has anyone seen the Blue Note Scrapbook? I call it such because it has many
>featured artists from the 60s-70s era who recorded on Bluenote. What the book
>has are pictures of different albums released by the artists.
>I found a copy where I buy my CDs. The cost is 24.95. I haven't bought it yet.
>I'm still debating if it's worth it. I may wind up buying anyway because you
>get useful info about the recordings for special orders or whatever. Most of
>the Blue Note stuff from that time period is out of print so knowing the info
>on various albums could come in handy sometime.
>Fred Rozenblad

It's Blue Note, The Album Cover Art. I have the book. It's not a must have,
but for jazz freaks like myself, it's nice. Many of the albums featured are
out of print, so it's nice to see the covers of those albums. That period of
BlueNote recordings is my favorite, so it means someting to me to have that book.
The cost is a bit high, but oh well.
Bassam
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From: dmandl@bilbo.shearson.com (David Mandl)
Subject: Re: Brand X Recommendations
Followup-To: rec.music.bluenote
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:13:17 GMT

In article <14418@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:

   In article <1992Sep1.190936.11267@wilbur.coyote.trw.com> Patrick Jost <jost@wilbur.coyote.trw.com> writes:
   >I really like the new Brand X album...but I've heard all sorts of mixed things
   >about the old ones. Any recommendations, especially for things featuring
   >Percy Jones' amazing bass?

   "Unorthodox Behavior" (especially Nuclear Burn) and "Product" are my favorites.
   Some don't like "Product" because of the vocals.  Percy Jones apparently has
   a recent solo album as well.  I haven't seen a copy yet.  Apparently it was
   available via a mail order outfit on the east coast.


The new Brand X disc didn't knock me out, but I haven't listened to it much.
As for Percy's solo discs, there are two: "Cape Catastrophe" and "Propeller
Music."  I don't have addresses handy, but I think both are available via
Wayside.  I can get details if you want.

"Unorthodox Behaviour" is my favorite Brand X LP also (their first one).
But "Livestock" (the third, recorded live) is worth checking out if you're
a Percy fan because his playing is REALLY fast.  Incredible.  Bad news:
Collins (at the time one of the world's greatest drummers) isn't on the
whole Livestock LP.

   --Dave.

P.S.: If anyone's interested, I did an interview with Percy on my radio
show about a year and a half ago.  It's not easy for me to make tape
copies at the moment, but if any can't live without it, I can dupe it for
you (email me for details).
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From: mongeau@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com (Mike Mongeau)
Subject: BLUES: W.C. Handy awards
Organization: Equipment Division, Raytheon Company
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 13:29:36 GMT

Can anyone provide any information about the annual W.C. Handy
Blues awards, the Blues equivalent of the Grammy awards ?
When and where are they held, what are the various categories,
who gets to vote for the nominees, etc. ?  I've heard about the 
awards on some radio programs that I listen to, but not in that
much detail.

 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 "The Blues has been...the blues is...the blues will be, as long as time"
                                                        -Willie Dixon

   Mike Mongeau                           Raytheon Equipment Division
   mongeau@nmc.ed.ray.com                                Marlboro, MA
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From: dak@latcs1.lat.oz.au (David Karla)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: sax mouthpieces (long)
Keywords: saxophones, mouthpieces, long article
Date: 2 Sep 92 03:19:46 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia


If you're after something of a more classical jazz sound (sic) for tenor,
the Claude Lakey mouthpieces might be worth a shot. They don't seem to give as
consistent a sound up and down the horn as the Links do, but they've got a
distinctively chunky bottom end.

Dak.
From: ai.torosian@mcc.com (Dan Torosian)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Looking for good saxaphone supplier
Date: 3 Sep 1992 11:04:06 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I've been pretty happy with a company called 'The Woodwind' (there's a
brass division called 'The Brasswind' also).  They're in South Bend,
Indiana and their phone # is 1-800-348-5003.  Reeds are pretty cheap (by
the box only), as are other supplies like straps, stands, etc.  They've
been friendly and reliable, and the one time there was a billing error,
it was cleared up with no problems at all.  I have no affiliation, blah
blah.  Sam Ash (NY) also does mail order 1-800-4SAMASH.  I've never done
mail order from them, though.

-Dan
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