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From: BIOSEE@UKCC.UKY.EDU (Stephanie Edelmann)
Subject: bilingual kids
Organization: University of Kentucky
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:22:58 GMT

I would like to get in contact with parents trying to raise their
children bilingual.  I am a native German, my spouse is an American
who does not speak German.  My daughter is 2, perfectly fluent in
English (as perfect as a 2 year old can be expected to be....) but
uses German words only occasionally.  Even though I'm sure she
understands everything I tell her in German.  That's not bad, but I'd
like or her to actually SPEAK the language.
 
 
                                       Stephanie Edelmann
                                       BIOSEE@UKCC.UKY.EDU
 
P.S.: She's cute, too.  Sometimes a little gross, though...
The other day she sat on the floor with her finger in her nose.
All a sudden, she says: " I got to get that bugger out.  I'm gonna
eat it for a snack..." GROSS!!!!!
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: brein@gpvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Barry S. Rein)
Subject: Re: Why not 2%
Followup-To: misc.kids
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:39:34 GMT

With all of this discussion about 2% versus 4% milk, fat, protein, etc, I
wonder how children can possibly grow up healthy in cultures which don't
drink milk?
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From: sinnott@tc4.fi.ameslab.gov (Susan B. Sinnott)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: UPDATE: Need help with brestfeeding
Date: 15 Nov 92 17:07:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxrowK.Fx7
Organization: Iowa State University

Well, I got the supplementer last Wednesday.  It is a big help.  I can tell
that my milk is coming back slowly.  The breast is still not Joseph's first
choice.  When he first wakes up and is very hungry, he just refuses to take
the breast even with the supplementer.  And I have learned the hard way that
trying to "force" him to take it does no good at all!  So what I end up doing
is giving him about two ounces from the bottle and then gently giving him
the breast.  He will still fuss sometimes, but other times he has nursed
quite happily for a long time.  I am very pleased with the way things are
working out.  Thanks again for all the support and help.

Susan Sinnott
sinnott@tc4.fi.ameslab.gov
From: cindy@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Cindy Windham)
Subject: Re: Diarrhea and vomiting
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Organization: University Advancement, University of Calif., Irvine
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:22:42 GMT

In article <24112@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM> smergen@luna.dpl.scg.hac.com (Sandra Mergen) writes:


>My 2 year old has had a viral with vomiting (twice, during the night)
>for the past week.  There is a viral going around in our area for a
>month or so now.  My husband and I have had it for 2 weeks each.  We
>are SICK of it.

>The doctor says no milk products for Melissa, just Gatorade, and
>the BRAT diet.  Well, for those who have a 2 year old, you can
>imagine how difficult it is to restrict milk, and whatever else
>they're used to eating.  My daughter doesn't eat much as it is.

>Is anyone else going through this that can tell me how they handled
>the fussy 2 year old, the throwing up in the middle of the night,
>the leaking diapers.  I am SOOOO tired.

>Sandy
>smergen@luna.dpl.scg.hac.com

My 19-month old just had this.  We just gave him Gatorade, jello water,
mashed potatoes, and applesauce for 4 days.  It was pretty messy all
right.  I still think that I can smell the vomit in the carpet, even
after cleaning with soap and water, Resolve, and enzyme cleaner.  
Lucky for me, the vomit doesn't bother me too much.  My husband had
to leave the room :).

- Cindy Windham
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: neville@cs.washington.edu (Dorothy Neville)
Subject: Re: Imaginary friends
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 03:03:41 GMT


I second the motion that you play along with your son and his
imaginary friend.  I cannot imagine what the problem would be
with that.

ObCuteStory:

When I was young (3? 4?) I had Carol and Maureen as my imaginary
friends.  They lived under the black walnut in the backyard.  This
was fine until Maureen started getting into some mischief, she
crayoned on places not meant for crayons (walls, books) and I think
something else too, but I forget.  At this point, my mom told me
she wanted to invite Carol and Maureen's mom over for coffee.  They
needed to discuss how to handle Maureen's behavior problem.  Well
I told her that unfortunately that would not be possible that day
since she was too busy packing and moving.  They did move to the
juniper in the neighboring yard.  I still played with them, but
Maureen never got into trouble at our house again.

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: ashley@osc.edu (Ashley Burns)
Subject: Re: Mail order company packaging (was Re: Brio Compatible Thomas trains)
Organization: The Ohio Supercomputer Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:28:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.192739.2554@adobe.com> riggle@adobe.com (Kathleen Riggle) writes:
>>In article <1689D9E5E.LISAS@pucc.Princeton.EDU> LISAS@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Lisa S Lewis) writes:
>>>A while back people were looking for Brio compatible Thomas trains.  I
>>>noticed that these are available through one of the catalogues I receive.
>>>It's called Troll Learn and Play, and their number is 1-800-247-6106.
....
>else), but I do have a comment on their packaging.  That day I
>also received 3 other packages.  All four packages were in cardboard
>boxes.  The other three packages, however, were packed in newsprint
>and cardboard inside to protect the merchandise.  The Troll Learn and
>Play package was packed in styrofoam peanuts.  They also included a

At least you can now recycle the peanuts (but I agree about not 
liking companies who use new ones). Here's what I got from the net 
awhile ago about places to recycle them:

>There are places that will recycle/reuse those plastic
>foam packaging pellets.  You can call 1-800-828-2214
>and give them your Zip Code and they'll give you the
>addresses of places near you.

I called and was sent to a local Mail Boxes Etc. Whenever I get some
I just drop them off on the way back from work.

--Ashley Burns, ashley@osc.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: rlittell@wizard.Berkeley.EDU (Rich Littell)
Subject: Re: Why not 2%
Reply-To: rlittell@1.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:14:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.174951.8247@kodak.kodak.com>,
salvaggi@sunshine.Kodak.COM (Nanette Salvaggio) writes:
> 
> My son had his first year check up.  He went from sitting on the 50th
percentile
> his entire forst year to the 80th for weight.  The doctor then asked a
million
> questions about his diet.  My son loves milk and drinks about 35 oz. a day.
> This is whole milk.  The doctoer said that was way to much and to reduce it
> by half.  Well we do not eat a lot a meat (one every 2 weeks, chicken or 
> turkey) and we feel that milk is important to his diet.  He drinks about
> 8 oz. of water a day also.  When I asked him if we could just go to 2%
he said,
> that it has more sodium and was not a good idea.  Well I examined the labels
> and there is no difference in the sodium at all.  There is 8 grams of fat in 
> whole and 5 grams in the 2% per cup.  We have tried reducing his milk but
> he really does prefer it and is not always that pleased with us.  Do if I 
> reduce his milk intake or go to 2% and let him drink as he does now, he
> will still be getting enough fat.  Any opinions as to go to 2% or not?
> 
> Thanks
> Nanette
> salvaggi@alnitak.kodak.com

Not that anyone really cares what I think; however, I think you
should let your son have as much 2% as he wants.

Doctors are great, but remember they are only "practicing"
medicine - to me that means they haven't figured it all
out yet!

You already proved him wrong on the sodium content - so
there, you are one up on him.

Good luck.

Rich Littell (rlittell)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: js@cs.tulane.edu (Jan Silbermann)
Subject: Re: Lost Song Lyrics - Sesame Street "Captain Vegetable" song
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-18805]: caesar
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 04:28:26 GMT

>
>And if anybody has the lyrics to "Healthy Food" and/or "The Word is No",
>I'd love to see them posted, too! (I think I can remember the tunes.)

     There was an absolutely beautiful song on Sesame Street a
  few months ago which contained the refrain "my name is you." It
  was abut racial tolerance. It really moved me and I would love
  to know if anyone can remember the words or knows if a recording
  exists?
From: arodgers@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Angus H Rodgers)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: How to Deal with Overly Shy 6 Month Old
Date: 22 Nov 92 18:27:32 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

In <1992Nov22.070438.17999@netcom.com>
pam@netcom.com (Pamela Araki) writes:

>He had colic for the first 3 months and I held him almost 
>constantly during that time.  I know that you really can't
>spoil a baby that young, but I wonder if I have.  I'm at home
>with him all day so I wonder if I have made him this shy from
>lack of interaction with other people.

(Anecdote:)
Emma's mother was with her constantly, but *constantly*, for
her first 9+ months; and if she has been "spoiled" by this
treatment (I don't know what this would mean in general), it
hasn't had the effect of making her shy! -- Quite the opposite,
if anything: she smiles and talks to people in the street and 
in shops, and likes being held by just about everybody.

So, if there *is* anything to worry about, and if it *does* have
a cause -- other, that is, than your child's basic personality
(aren't some babies born shyer than others?) -- it's *not* that
you've spoiled the baby by cuddling him too much!

I hope that this reassures you a little.

(But if you feel worried, there may be a reason for it, and the
feeling shouldn't be discounted; it's just that the problem 
isn't -- it can't be -- what you fear it is.)

>He does like other children, however.

That sounds like Emma! She goes ape when other babies or children
are around her (or are even on television, or in magazines). She
definitely prefers them to adults.

>He really has a problem with most men and
>older women, especially the kind that wear too much lipstick.
>It's kinda funny to see his preferences.

Maybe that's all it is: preferences!

(And before you know it, he'll have grown into another stage,
with different preferences.)

>Anyway, how do I break him of this?

Whoa! There may not be any need to "break" him of anything.

>If I as much as leave the room he gets anxious.

Well, Emma's often (not always) like that, too. 

We have sort-of got the impression from books that it's perfectly
normal, and nothing to worry about: it's "just a stage", and 
"she'll grow out of it".

>And, I'm with him almost constantly.
>It can't be lack of attention, just maybe too much attention.
>Any ideas?  Any comments would be very appreciated.

Listen to me, I've been a father for 11 months, and already I'm
an expert! :-)

No doubt you will get plenty of other comments from more experienced
parents. Just my 2p worth.
--
Gus Rodgers,  Dept. of Computer Science, | "The truth of a property said to be
Queen Mary & Westfield College, Mile End | approximate is something quite diff-
Road, London, England.   +44 71 975 5241 | erent from the approximate truth of 
E-mail (JANET):   arodgers@dcs.qmw.ac.uk | a property said to be exact."J.Nicod
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: bert_al@pts.mot.com (ALICE BERTELSON X2572 P7331)
Subject: Brahms lullaby
Followup-To: Brahms lullaby
Reply-To: bert_al@pts.mot.com
Organization: Paging and Wireless Data Group
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:18:49 GMT


In article lgn89pINNhvj@news.bbn.com, ncramer@bbn.com (Nichael Cramer) writes:
>millerj@belize.crd.ge.com (Julia K. Miller) writes:
>>	Does anyone know the words to Brahm's (sp?) lullabye?  
>
>Sure.  One of my daughters' favorites:
>
>   Lullabye and goodnight,
>     Dy-duh-dy-dy dy dy dyyyy
>       Dy-duh-dy, dy-duh-dy  Dy-duh-dy-dy dy dy dyyyy
>   Dy-duh-dy, dy-duh-dy  Dy-duh-dy-dy dy dy dyyyy
>     Dy-duh-dy-dy dy dy dyyyy
>       Duh-dy dyddy dy dy dyyyyy
>
>   Duh-duh-DYYYYYY duh-duh-dyyyy
>      duh-duh dy dy dy dy dy
>   Duh-duh-DYYYYYY duh-duh-dyyyy
>     duh dy-dyddy dy dy dyyyyyyy.
>
>> ...Thanks
>
>Any time.
>
>Nichael

I totally agree !! I have always sung it like this! REALLY made me laugh!

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From: linda@linda.intel.com (Linda Harbin)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: flower girl dress needed
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:18:20 GMT
Reply-To: linda@linda.intel.com (Linda Harbin)
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon

In article <1992Nov18.011214.13621@u.washington.edu>, lcheap@cac.washington.edu (Laurel Cheap ) writes:
|> In article <BxvJty.6pr@plato.ds.boeing.com> simnet@ssc-bee.uucp (Aileen Hsu) writes:
|> >  My daughter has just been asked to be the flower girl in my sister-in-law's
|> >wedding.  I went out yesterday to look for a white dress for her to
|> >wear for the wedding, the only ones I found cost $70-$100.  I think
|> >this is too much for something she can only wear for a couple times
|> >during one season. . . .
|> 
I know this is not always an option but 32 years ago my sister and I were
flower girls are our aunt's wedding.  We have white lacy dresses to match
the brides.  Our Mom stored the dresses away and 30 years later, my niece
wore my sister's dress until to was in shreds, and this past summer, I finally
had to throw my dress away after Andrea wore it for 2 years.  As a child, I
wore the dress to Sunday School a lot and Andrea did to these past 2 years. 

|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> Laurel Cheap           University of Washington   lcheap@u.washington.edu
|> Information Systems    Seattle, Washington  USA   a.k.a. Brendan's mommy
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Help, do you live in Chicago ????
From: <WELACK@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 16 Nov 1992 16:35:22 EST
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

My sister is a single parent, living in the Rolling Meadows area and is
in dire need of a reasonably priced babysitter. The main problem is that
she's in the food service business and works long hours, sometimes evenings
and weekends.
 
If you can help or know someone; please drop me a message ASAP.
 
Thanks, in advance. Bill Lack
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri (Droopy) Farenell)
Subject: this is a test
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 15:46:01 GMT

This is just a test. 

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: beth@col.hp.com (Beth Vail Jones)
Subject: Re: Computer Programs for Pre-school
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:50:30 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

My son is 3 1/2, and just received Kidpix as a gift.  It's made by a
company named Broderbund, or something like that.  It's great for
drawing pictures, and if you have a sound card it makes neat noises.
My husband and I have enjoyed playing with it after Ben goes to bed :-).
The version we have runs on an IBM-compatible with Windows 3.1.

Beth Jones, mother of Ben (3.5) and Andy (1.5)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Subject: Re: First Plane Trip
Keywords: What a Surprise!
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:59:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.164600.16596@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> laa@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (lu.ann.acerbi) writes:
>Well, I finally have a chance to talk about Brian's (3.5 yrs) first
>plane trip.  We went to Florida in October, and I read faithfully
>the FAQ on flying with children.  I purchased little toys to play
>with on the plane, and brought enough snacks to feed an army.  Hubby
>and I were prepared for the worst scenario.  Boy did we get surprised!
>For a child that can't sit still for two minutes at a time, Brian was
>an angel.  He was amazed with the inside of the plane, thrilled that
>
We just took Jeffrey on his first plane trip (also to Forida), and like LuAnn,
we were pleasantly surprised. In many ways it was much more fun then just 
sitting there waiting and watching lousy movies.

For us, the trip consisted of a 7 hour trip (including an hour layover in
Atlanta). On the way there, he did get a bit restless for about an hour.
In some ways the layover was good, because it ehlped to spend 30+ mins 
climbing all over the waiting area seats.

The way back was something that kept me up the night before worrying about.
The layover in Altanta was 6.5 hours, so that we could meet Jeffrey's great
Grandmother (first time for Jeffrey and me). Not only did I want us to 
survive the day, but I wanted him to be at his best. He was wonderful all day.
He loved the plane, and the new toys, and watching the inflight movie (without
sound). 

A cute story -  on the flight from Miami to Atlanta they gave a snack of
bagel, cream cheese and jam. Evan let him put his own jam on his bagel. He
did very well, but at the end of the meal, Evan asked me to hand over a 
diaper wipe. While Evan was cleaning up Jeffrey, Jeffrey asked Evan (for the
umpteenth time) what happens when you fly. Evan explained (again) how we go
up in a plane, etc, etc. When he got to the end of the story Jeffrey adds 
"Yes, and you get sticky too!".

It was a fun trip!

Laura Floom
great
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Friday, 20 Nov 1992 14:32:09 MST
From: <ICKAD@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Child Humor

The November issue of _Parents Magazine_ has a great article on Child Humor
("What Makes Kids Laugh").  Describes Jamie's humor to a "T"!  Within the
article is a side-bar on "Comics in the Making:  Stars tell how they developed
the sense of humor that made them famous," and I wanted to share Yakov
Smirnoff's account with you (*used without permission):

-Yakov Smirnoff realized he was funny at age six.  "We shared a small Moscow
apartment with seventeen people; I shared a bedroom with my parents.  When my
parents wanted to make love, my father would tell me to look out the window.
'What do you see?' my dad once said.  'The neighbors making love,' I said.
'How do you know what they're doing?' he said. 'Because their son is looking
out *their* bedroom window.'  I didn't think much of this until my parents
told the relatives and I saw them laugh."-

Really a good article!!  :-)

And, now, back to work . . ..

--Jamie's Mommy (Karen Davis)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: Diapers and the Environment
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:52:18 GMT

bwolfe@trentu.ca (BEN WOLFE) writes:

.
.
.

>The problem is that the
>information channels tend to be monopolized by large companies with a huge
>financial stake in issues like this one. The disposable diaper business
>is worth more than $400 million a year in Canada and billions a year in
>the U.S. Major companies like Procter and Gamble and Kimberley-Clark have
>been very successful at paying for research studies that support their
>environmental claims, and then selling this biased information to the
>public as scientific fact.

>If you see studies by Franklin Associates or Arthur B. Little cited in
>support of the claim that disposable diapers are no more harmful to the
>environment than cloth diapers, take them with a grain (in fact a pillar)
>of salt, because they are industry-sponsored propoganda. Some contrary
>studies were sponsored by the American Association of Diaper Services,
>and what they say is no surprise either.

>Unfortunately, independent researchers who take the time to read both
>and find the middle ground of truth don't have multi-million dollar
>advertising and public relations budgets, so you rarely read what they
>have to say in the pages of major magazines. All I was trying to do in
>getting involved in this thread was make it clear that the Garbage
>Magazine article a couple of people were quoting in support of the use
>of disposables is based on exactly this suspect data.

.
.
.

>Yes, there are all sorts of . . . 
> . . . All I'm saying is this: if
>you think disposables have no greater environmental impact than
>cloth diapers, you've bought into a convenient advertising claim,
>not a fact. P&G in particular was charged with misleading
>advertising in Ontario and New York over its environmental claims,
>and chose to settle out of court.

Ben, in all honesty, it really is difficult to know what to believe, given
what you've stated above.  Who are the "independent researchers who take the
time to read both and find the middle ground of truth"?  And if they're only
reading biased data, how can they then extrapolate what is right?  Unless 
they do studies themselves, their extrapolation must be questioned.

I do understand that both the disposable diaper manufacturers and the
diaper service companies have biased data, but trying to discern what is
truth from two sources of bias is not believable.

I understand what you're saying, but I'm still saying that unless there
really is an unbiased study, then we don't really know what all the facts
are.

allen
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: cathy@octel.com (Cathy Kearns)
Subject: Re: Things my parents did right, personal.
Organization: Octel Communications Inc., Milpitas Ca.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:39:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.233638.2533367@locus.com> judy@locus.com (Judy Leedom Tyrer) writes:
>While my Mom didn't have the strength and courage to break away from the life
>that had entrapped her, she did have the wisdom to teach us not to make this
>mistake in our lives, but to see the world and make our own way in it.  She
>not only let us go, she practically shoved us away.  I will always thank
>her for that.

My mother had her first child the day before she turned twenty, and her fourth
child just after she turned 25.  Being a housewife and mother was expected of
women in the sixties, and she tried to fit right in.  My mother didn't really
have the patience and personality to be a stay-at-home mom, but she gave it
her best shot.  All the while though, she pushed her three daughters... you
can do anything...math, science, newspaper editor, sports, anything... She
treated her four children exactly the same, we all (son and daughters) could
sew, mow the lawn, clean the house, whip up dinner, lay cement.  At sometime
in our lives we all got hammers for our birthdays.  

My older sister is the president of her own insurance brokrage firm.  I'm
a software engineer, my younger sister is a math teacher and track coach,
my little brother is an industrial engineer.  My mother still isn't sure
what she wants to be when she grows up,  but she's got to be proud of how
her kids turned out.

							Cathy