From: john@johniac.austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti)
Subject: Re: fetus vs. baby
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 20:06:05 GMT
Distribution: tx
Reply-To: johniac@hwperform.austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti)
Organization: IBM Advanced Workstation Division, Austin, TX

In article <21348@rpp386.lonestar.org>, jfh@rpp386.lonestar.org (John F. Haugh II) writes:
 
|> You have to come up with some REASON that premarital sex doesn't cause
|> illegitimate children.

I came up with two scenarios:  She might not get pregnant in the
first place or they might get married before the baby is born.  
I don't have to prove a negative.  If you want to claim that there is
a one-to-one correspondence between premarital sex acts and
illegitimate births, you have to claim that the above two scenarios
have never happened.  One example is enough to disprove it. 

|> Now I am going to ask those people in
|> this group who have sibblings that were conceived before their parents
|> were married to all step forward.

Maybe because there's no such thing as a "sibbling", so nobody had one
at all. :-)

Usenet polls are so scientific.  Would you care to tell us how many
responses you got and what your margin of error was?  Remember I only
have to find ONE example.

|> > Read again what I wrote.  Fifty-three percent had intercourse
|> > BEFORE their 18th birthday, not while they were 18.  This is additive.
|>  
|> It may be additive, but if 0% of all 10 year olds are having sex, the TOTAL
|> doesn't get any benefit.  Likewise, if 0% of all 11 year olds, and so on.
|> Remember that MY claim is only that 78% of all teenagers DON'T have sex.
|> Not that 78% of all 17 or 18 or 19 year olds.

There you go changing your story again.  You said that 78% of all
teenagers are VIRGINS, not 78% of all teenagers don't have sex.  If
you have intercourse ONE TIME, you are no longer a virgin.  By the way,
you still haven't said where you got your 78% number.

|> Huh?  TEEN age is the years in the TEENS.  That means, after the first
|> TEN.  Twenties are after the first TWENTY.  What do you call a ten year
|> old?  A "less than teenager?"  Decades come in groups of ten, not in
|> groups of seven ...

Look up "teenager" in your $3.95 Merriam-Webster.  Better yet, I'll
give you the definition from my $9.99 Webster's New Collegiate:

teenager n : a person in his teens

teens n pl 1: the numbers 13 to 19 inclusive; specif : the years 13 to
              19 in a lifetime or century 

           2: TEENAGERS


I have an idea:  Why don't you write an English-Haugh / Haugh-English
dictionary so we can translate what you write to English before we
respond?  It should cut down the arguments considerably.

|> > |> If
|> > |> kids were into playing with themselves as much as parents worry about kids
|> > |> playing with themselves, there'd be more blind, bald 4 year olds than you
|> > |> can shake a stick at.
|> > 
|> > Please please tell me that you don't really believe this.
|> 
|> Of course I believe this.  Really.

Let me see if I have this straight.  You honestly believe that
masturbation causes blindness and baldness?

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