From: nsn@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Nick Nicholas)
Subject: Re: Latin (was Re: coming out to my parents)
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:16:30 GMT

bhat@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Timothy Alan Heath BELL) scripsit:
>nsn@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Nick Nicholas) writes:
>>eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans) writes:
>>>nsn@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Nick Nicholas) writes:
>>>>bhat@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Timothy Alan Heath BELL) writes:
>>>>>nsn@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Nick Nicholas) writes:

OK, so Piglet's in the middle, and Tim and I are on either side of her,
and I'm hanging off the end. Intriiiiiguing :)

>>*Tim, put down the crowbar!*

Thank you for not making any capital of that one, Tim :)

>>>But, isn't it "mihi", not "michi", that it would be if it weren't "mei"?
>>Not necessarilamente. Mediaeval Latin, Piglet, and that's what actually
>>gets used in the manuscripts (and so Tim tells me, that's how you pronounce
>>_mihi_ in Church Latin anyway. Freaky...)
>Only in Tudor English pronunciation of Church Latin, or so *I'm* told. 

Ok, so I have a propensity to misremember what you tell me. Sue me, Tim,
sue me! %^)

>And it's written "mihi" anyway...  

Not in the Carmina Burana (those *classics* of rock'n'roll). Of course,
the Carmina aren't Tudor English. Though I did like that bit about the
Chuenigin von Engeland...

>Personly, I think we should just listen to some
>recordings of the period.... :)

As long as there's no Palestrina on, you're on. On my word! (But you're
not singing any Tudor stuff Saturday, are you? And you haven't given
me directions to the venue yet! Silly girl! Oooooops --- no, I'm *not*
turning into Superfag! I'm NOOOOOT!)

(Because you'd have to run me over if I did :)

Although I'm *still* trying to recover from the Village People... *wow*.
They may be quite straight-acting these days, and their songs inane,
and the Soldier guy may look a little worse for wear (but I *want* the
construction worker's lovechild, even if the back of his top did say
"SHOW US YOUR TITS" --- and I would have too, only I wasn't close enough :)
--- but *wow*. What a homecoming! (After all, in Greek emigre circles,
disco hasn't really died yet :)

Especially the verse of "Macho Man". Masculinist music to the max, with
blue notes in all the right places to make the inner man within the
outer man (or woman --- I see no reason why any of the women there be
excluded from that which we awkwardly and traditionally call masculinism)
go *huh!*

... But wearing denim to go to a nightclub? How *gauche*! Not a *BEIGE*
*SUIT* in sight, I telle yow!

>>>I'm so *confused*!!
>>Hoc non mirabile est, quia *bisexualis* es! :)
>			     ^^^^^^^^^^ Shouldn't this be bisexuala ?

Minime vero, O Timothee; adjectivum enim _bisexualis_ et non _bisexualus_
est, cujus femininum _bisexualis_.

%^P

(O Morticia! Lingua iterum latina locuta es! :)

>			     (You can't escape gender in Latin... :)

Mmmm... no desire to escape gender in any language... femininity, mmmm...
masculinity, mmmm....

.... jelly donuts! mmm... oops --- Homer Simpson quote %^)

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