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From: aep@MV3600.BMEN.TULANE.EDU
Subject: Re: Hatteras
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-27637]: mv3600.bmen.tulane.edu
Reply-To: aep@MV3600.BMEN.TULANE.EDU
Organization: TULANE, BMEN, NEW ORLEANS, LA
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 21:20:19 GMT

Hey now. I lived in Durham for approximately 9 years and spent a fair bit
of time in Hatteras. From Durham to Buxton is 265 miles, which can be slow
going in parts beacuse you move through Eastern Carolina. If you would like
an experiential trip, I'd recommend the Cedar Island to Ocracoke Ferry
(2.5 hour ferry boat) with a drive north to Cape Hatteras. If your goal is
to get on the water as fast as you can after your plane lands, fly into
Norfolk, VA and drive down (2 hours).

Enjoy....Andy Pollard

Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: brahms@delaware.tdd.sj.nec.com (George Skillman  x2921)
Subject: Re: Lifejackets while windsurfing
Organization: NEC-AM TDD, San Jose, California
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 02:34:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.182039.22736@engage.pko.dec.com> stu@otop23.enet.dec.com writes:
>
>Being a responsible parent (with a wife who is terrified of water), I have 
>been asked by my family to wear a life jacket while sailing.
> ...
>
>Regards,
>Stu MacKay
>Ottawa, Canada
>
> 

I get the willies thinking about what might happen to me if my board ran
off from me and I couldn't catch up to it.  So far, it hasn't happened, but
I'm not a great swimmer so I think it's conceivable.

I wear a small Mistral vest that gives me just enough floatation to keep
me above the water.  I find it completely unobtrusive and in fact very
benificial when trying to waterstart.  Without one, my body sinks way
under the water while trying to clear the sail.  With one, I generally don't
sink my head below the water at all.

Perhaps I'm paranoid or simply underestimating other people's swimming
abilities, but I think it's rather crazy to go out on the water without
some kind of floatation device.
--
=============================================================
George Skillman (408) 433-2921
brahms@tdd.sj.nec.com
NEC America
From: gringort@wsl.dec.com (Joel Gringorten)
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
Subject: Re: Right of way
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:00:47 GMT
Reply-To: gringort@wsl.dec.com (Joel Gringorten)
Organization: DEC Western Software Lab

In article <Bu10oL.F2u@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU>, somlo@swifty.dap.CSIRO.AU (Peter Somlo) writes:
|> I ususally apply the rule (which I've learned as a kid snow-skiing) that
|> the more experienced (skier)sailor gives way to the less experienced one.
|> In practice it seems to work, and I dont't mind showing who is more in
|> control of his craft.
|> -- 
|> Dr Peter I. Somlo FIEEE | CSIRO Div. Appl.Phys. | "Every coin has three
|> Head RF/Microwave Proj. | Natl. Meast. Lab.     |  sides - at least"
|> FAX: 61-2-413-7383	| POB 218 Lindfield 2070|  (Somlo, cca. 1985)
|> TEL: 61-2-413-7505      | NSW AUSTRALIA         |

This is probably the best advice I've seen yet.  In practice, I take 
this one step further.  I yield right of way to almost anyone who
challenges me.  Why?  I'm usually travelling at a pretty good clip.
Sometimes port tack sailors approaching me (I'm on starboard) like to 
play the macho game of pinching up wind to show they can sail higher.  
After reading the results of high speed collisions caused by such macho 
sillyness, I don't play that game.  If it's obvious that the other sailor 
doesn't want to yield, I take a sharp downwind turn and sail well below 
them, performing this maneuver well in advance of the possibility of them
mirroring me and creating a larger hazard. 

This usually puts a confused look on their face as they realize what
I've done and why.  The message is clear.  I'm not playing the game.
They've not yielded my right of way, they are wrong, and we both know it.

-joel
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From: rogerc@ssd.intel.com (Roger Christal)
Subject: Re: Sailing Right-Of-Way
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division, Intel Corp.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:50:10 GMT

In article <thompson.715385956@kiyotaki.econ.umn.edu> thompson@atlas.socsci.umn.edu writes:

>The only time the yachting rules _require_ anyone to say anything is
>when claimning a "mast abeam" limitation on luffing rights.

Not correct.  As I remember, the only required hail is "OBSTRUCTION".
I'll check my rulebook tonight, just to be sure.


-- 

>>=-  Roger Christal  rogerc@techbook.com  rogerc@ssd.intel.com  -=<<
From: hortin_lab@wums.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
Subject: maui packages
Date: 31 AUG 92 11:00:27 GMT
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
NNTP-Posting-Host: msnews.wustl.edu

My wife and i are considering a windsurfing package in maui.  Thinking of using either "windsurfing vacations" or "vela". i would like to pose two questions to the "net":

is there any pit falls i should know about(equipt., accomidations, hassle, etc)
or any recomendations out there?

what should i expect for wind and weather paterns?

thanks in advance.
e-mail or post is fine.

tag
From: william@castle.ed.ac.uk (William Warburton)
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
Subject: Re: Lifejackets while windsurfing (pretty long)
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:38:14 GMT
Reply-To: W.Warburton@ed.ac.uk
Organization: Edinburgh University Computing Service

In article <25303@castle.ed.ac.uk>, william@castle.ed.ac.uk (William Warburton) writes:
|> 
|>  Lifejacket:	Designed to keep you afloat for a prolonged period in a 
|> 		face up position, normally has foam buoyancy which can
|> 		be supplemented by inflation. Also available in
|> 		inflation-only models. Should meet all applicable
|> 		safety regs. 

 Damn, meant to go into this a fraction more. If you sail in difficult
conditions (strong tides? offshore winds?) then an inflatable lifejacket
seems a good insurance policy- they are unobtrusive & yet offer many
of the advantages of the bulkier versions. Personally, though, I think
I might not sail if I thought I might need one!

	W.
-- 
VitSea 292, Tiga Slalom, Baxter 270 wave and half a Fanatic Bee,
6.2 Topsail 5.1/4.6 Tushinghams 4.2 sShokwave & half a Gaastra 3.2 :-)
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From: mattm@fivek.Eng.Sun.COM (Matthew Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
Subject: Equipment Wanted
Date: 2 Sep 1992 16:42:49 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: fivek

I'm looking to buy a 12ft board with mast, sail, dagger board,
etc.  If you have a setup your looking to sell let me know.

Work (415) 336-5282
In the evenings, ( 408 ) 259-7397 

Thanks,

Matt 

Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: dwabra@watson.ibm.com (David Abraham)
Subject: Re: Lifejackets while windsurfing
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:11:06 GMT
Distribution: rec
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
	<1684E12CA7.EPLUS17@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
	<thompson.714847579@daphne.socsci.umn.edu>
	<JACKG.92Aug26153526@capella.ucsb.edu>
Organization: IBM, Yorktown Heights, NY 10598

In article <JACKG.92Aug26153526@capella.ucsb.edu> jackg@bears.ucsb.edu (Jack Greenbaum) writes:

   There are two types of PFD's, those designed for extra flotation, and
   those designed to keep an unconcious person's head out of the water so
   they don't drown. The former wouldn't help in this case, and I find a
   helmet easier to swim with.

   I've heard more people tell me about getting wacked by someone elses
   mast then there own. 



Last spring in Venezuela I was on a completely full open fishing boat
along with about 15 other sailors and gear heading across open water
to a good sailing spot.  The owner of the resort was sailing his wave
board over, a reasonably difficult sail of probably 10 miles of
variable wind and some serious chop.  He had some problem with his
footstrap so he sailed up to the leeward side of the boat and will
doing about 10 knots sat on the rail.  Not too surprisingly the
control of his rig and board went down the tubes and the sail pitched
forward with some force, and the guy next to me took it on the noggin.
So, wear yer helmets when you're even THINKING about sailing!

P.S. The guy was ok, the owner was embarassed, I was amused.  

--
David Abraham                  dwabra@watson.ibm.com
IBM T.J. Watson Research Laboratory   (914) 945-2573
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: rogerc@ssd.intel.com (Roger Christal)
Subject: Re: Discount on Northwave Sails...
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division, Intel Corp.
Distribution: rec.windsurfing
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:33:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.204230.5667@ultb.isc.rit.edu> cjb3701@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

>rogerc@ssd.intel.com (Roger Christal) writes:
>>As a comparison, I had 6 Northwaves (3 Slaloms, 3 Tri-lites) custom
>>made in March 1991 at 20% off the retail price.  The cost was
>>$2235.00.

>Holy [expletive deleted]!!!!  You must be quite wealthy or have an
>understanding spouse (or both).  I hope this isn't an annual purchase. I have
>a hard time explaining why I need to buy a third (cheap) sail.
>
>----------------------------------------------
>Chris J. Bigenwald
>Rochester Institute of Technology
>Computer Science graduate student & windsurfer
>cjb3701@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
>----------------------------------------------

I think of it as having my priorities straight {;^).

But seriously, my wife and I both work and made a modest living.  We
purchased our house when they were resonably priced, so the monthly
payments including property taxes and insurance is pretty low (less
than $500).  Our cars are paid for.  We spend less on fixing and
maintaing our cars in a year than many people spend on a car payment
for a single month!  I'm quite happy with a yearly clothing allowance
of $400.  We have also taken great pains to avoid debt.

Hey, nobody said windsurfing was cheap!  In the video "Force 10: Sail
The Gorge", Moe Dixon said, "Windsurfing makes skiing look like a
getto sport."  Everyone decides what is most important to them.
Windsurfing is right up there near the top of my list.  

Remember, "Attitude Is Everything."  
-- 

>>=-  Roger Christal  rogerc@techbook.com  rogerc@ssd.intel.com  -=<<
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: cjb3701@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Chris Bigenwald)
Subject: Re: lifejacket
Reply-To: cjb3701@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:13:55 GMT

In article <gboates.128.715015901@admin.acadiau.ca>, gboates@admin.acadiau.ca (GARY BOATES) writes:
>favour but I always tell my sailing companions - "Don't sail farther than 
>you can swim/survive in the existing conditions AND don't count and other 
>things or people to help you out.  This means loosing your board and rig!" 

I agree with the idea of staying within a "safe" zone - whatever that may be
for your particular location.

Here in Rochester, NY we are required by law to where a lifejacket and I don't
mind too much because it helps when waterstarting and keeps your head out of
the water in the cold months.

One thing people may be fooling themselves with is "buddy" sailing.  Sure your
pals are all sailing at the same site but when you head out over the horizon,
chances are they're thinking about their next jibe, NOT where you took off to!
Unless you made specific "keep your eye on me" arrangements, I wouldn't rely
too heavily on someone sailing out to find you....
----------------------------------------------
Chris J. Bigenwald
Rochester Institute of Technology
Computer Science graduate student & windsurfer
cjb3701@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
----------------------------------------------
From: colas@capa.inria.fr (Colas Nahaboo)
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
Subject: Re: Equipment Maintenance
Date: 27 Aug 92 06:24:09 GMT
Organization: Koala Project, Bull Research France

In article <6730@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM>, wiltonh@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Wilton G Hart)
writes:
|>     1.  Harness lines

good quality rope + tight plastic tubes makes for long lasting lines. My
gaastra lines must be something like 4 years old now, and still in good shape
(but I carry a cheap spare set in my van, just in case...)

|>     2.  Mastbase

You must stay FAR away from new hi-tech devices. uses the most standard robust
plate... mine dates back from perhaps 10 years. I tried once clever seabright
or mistral ones, they all failed within a month

|>     3.  Mastbase extension

no problem, but I ALWAYS rince it after sailing, if possible on the beach (I
have a basin + water jerrican in my van if I am not going home afterwards)

|>     4.  Boom grip

not the slightest problem if you NEVER rig on concrete, only on sand or grass.

|>     5.  Wetsuit repair

tip: use only specialised glue (kind of shoe-goop), dry them intensely and let
the repair under pressure for at least 48 hours.

|>     6.  Sail stitching repair

Since I have wave sails, there is no more problem. non-monofilm wave sails seem
to be undestructible (north sails at least)

What I changes most:
- boom outhaul lines
- U-joint (at least once a year)

-- 
Colas Nahaboo, colas@sa.inria.fr, Bull Research Koala proj. Wool&Gwm Architect
Pho:(33) 93.65.77.70(.66 Fax), INRIA, B.P.93 - 06902 Sophia Antipolis, FRANCE.
From: poulton@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com (Ken Poulton)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:52:28 GMT
Subject: Re: For sail
Organization: HP Labs, High Speed Electronics Dept., Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing

[ Sorry to the rest of the net ... ]

dbg@falcon.natinst.com (Donny Goff) and mlbohn@mtu.edu (Michael Bohn)
please contact me by phone; my e-mail to you is bouncing.


Ken Poulton
poulton@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com
415-857-8461  work
415-857-1742  home
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: srgxnbs@grv (Bruce Spedding)
Subject: Re: Sailing Right-Of-Way
Reply-To: srgxnbs@grv
Organization: DSIR, Lower Hutt, New Zealand.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 21:21:37 GMT

In article <4310490@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, kirk@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Lindstrom) writes:
>>>  So, how many times have you been on port tack and had this starboard
>>>  tack person mirror your efforts to avoid collision?  It happens to me
>>>  A LOT!  This brings up the next point.  The sailor on starboard tack,
>>>  when approaching a sailor on port tack, should attempt to hold the
>>>  course that is being sailed so that the port tack sailor can maneuver
>>>  to avoid a collision.
>>
>>What you failed to mention is that the sailor on starboard tack has to
>>yell "starboard tack", the sailor on port tack has to yell "hold your
>>course." The starboard-tack sailor is then expected to hold his course.
>>In this way, both know what their respective rights are, and the mirror
>>problem doesn't occur.
>>
>>Of course these rules were all made up for the gentlemanly sport of
>>yachting, not for freefall-on-water conditions where you can hardly
>>hear yourself scream, never mind anyone else.
>>
>>David
>----------
>The port tack windsurfer should make an obvious course change to show
>the starboard tack sailor that the right of way is being yielded.  In a
>strong flood, I often sheet-out and slow way down to indicate that I see
>a starboard tack sailor and that I'm yielding right-of-way.
>
>Kirk out

How about promoting such things as the boom manufacturers putting "OK" and
"GIVE-WAY!" on the right and left booms, and other equipment manufacturers
putting safety information on their products. Motorcycle manufacturers have
put "Protect nature, wear a helmet" on their bikes for years (in NZ anyway)

Bruce

Bruce Spedding
Materials Science and Performance
Industrial Research Ltd,     Fax: +64-4-569-0132
P.O.Box 31310,              Work: +64-4-569-0485
Lower Hutt,  ( NZST : +12 ) Home: +64-4-562-8522
New Zealand.  Internet: srgxnbs@grv.grace.cri.nz
From: jeffb@terapin.com (Jeffrey Bean)
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
Subject: Re: Looking for a Wind Talker
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:04:03 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <1992Aug21.161623.20514@engage.pko.dec.com>, stu@otop23.oto.dec.com
(Stuart MacKay) writes:
>
>Hi folks,
>
>I am looking for the possibility of installing a device which can read the
>current wind speed and direction that I could phone into and it could tell
>me what is happening.
>
>The local weather office is less than useless.
>
>Apparently, there are devices in San Francisco called a Wind Talker.  This
>appears to do exactly what I want however, I have no idea where or who to 
>talk to about it. 
>
>Any leads?
>
>Regards,
>Stu MacKay
>Ottawa, Canada

    Try Radio Shack, pal.
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: rogerc@ssd.intel.com (Roger Christal)
Subject: Re: Lifejackets while windsurfing
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division, Intel Corp.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:41:59 GMT


Two months ago, I forgot to pack my float vest and sailed without it.
During a jibe, I got thrown forward and landed on my mast, right in
the middle of my chest.  The next day, I had lots of swelling of the
soft tissue around my ribs,

For the next 10 days, sneezing and coughing were *VERY* painful.
Sailing was out of the question.  'Course, I'm an old guy and
recovering from such injuries takes a while longer.

I use a floatation vest (not Coast Guard approved) made by Gorge Gear
in Hood River.  It provides some extra floatation for waterstarting
and *DEFINITELY* helps protect your body from collisions with sailing
equipment, whether it's your own or somebody elses.  I also use a
Protec helmet.

Personally, I'd rather wear the insurance policy than risk an injury
that prevents me from sailing.

>>=- Roger Christal
-- 

>>=- Roger Christal
From: madere@julius.austin.ibm.com (Steve Madere)
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
Subject: Houston Sailing Sites.
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:56:52 GMT
Reply-To: madere%aixserv@uunet.uu.net
Organization: IBM, Austin

I am planning on chasing Hurricane Andrew to get in some sailing.
I'm in Austin, TX so I figure that the closest good sailing will
be somewhere in the Houston area.

I need to find some good sailing sites around houston but not near
the coast.  I figure I don't want to get involved in any 'evacuation
traffic' if the storm should turn west.

Two lakes that look like good candidates are Lake Houston and Lake
Conroe.  Lake Houston looks a bit small but it would be closer
to the storm and thus should have better wind.

Has anyone out there sailed in the Houston area during a cold
front?  The hurricane is expected to make landfall in Louisiana
so I'm guessing that the wind will be from the north-east and north.

Please post your thoughts but also email or call me:

Steve Madere
madere%aixserv@uunet.uu.net
work: 512 823-8430
home: 512 458-4222	(call collect if you wish)
From: dan@kronos.com (Dan Driscoll)
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
Subject: Drysuit Repair (Was: Re: Drysuit recommendations?)
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:29:05 GMT
Organization: Kronos Inc. / Waltham, MA

Has anyone ever put a new zipper on a drysuit? Is it worth the time and effort
it will take? Any real problems with attempting this? Where would you get such
a zipper?

-dan@kronos.com
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: EPLUS17@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu (Richard Engelbrecht-Wiggans)
Subject: Re: Lifejackets while windsurfing
Organization: C.C.S.O.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:32:46 GMT

In article <thompson.714936806@daphne.socsci.umn.edu>
thompson@atlas.socsci.umn.edu (T. Scott Thompson) writes:
 
>For the record: When I got "bonked" it was (a) light air, (b) flat
>water, (c) hot (i.e. no wetsuits).  I was racing.  The other guy just
>dropped a very large and heavy rig on me as I passed to leeward.  I
>was not out cold, but definitely could not swim well for about one
>minute.  Do other people wear wetsuits/helmets in these conditions?
>Certainly no one else in sight of me at the time was.
 
I wear a helmet and PFD in almost all conditions...in the hot sunny
light wind conditions that prevail here in summer, I find a white Bell
bicycle helmet much cooler than going bare headed.  It also provides
protection against accidents such as you describe, and it keeps my
sports goggles from coming off no matter how hard I fall.
 
Very few other people around here sail similarly outfitted, but that
doesn't bother me...twenty years ago when I started wearing a helmet
while bicycling, no one even made helmets specifically for bicycling
(except those flimsy "hairnet" type thingys).  I have seen too many
head injuries from seemingly very very minor accidents to want to
risk my brains unnecessarily.  (After having been bonked hard by the
boom while trying to learn to sail a small sailboat, I now also wear
my helmet when sailing a boat...that really gets people talking.)
 
From: kirk@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Lindstrom)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 11:17:40 GMT
Subject: Re: Sailing Right-Of-Way
Organization: Shredding the water of SF Bay, HP-OCD
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing

>>  So, how many times have you been on port tack and had this starboard
>>  tack person mirror your efforts to avoid collision?  It happens to me
>>  A LOT!  This brings up the next point.  The sailor on starboard tack,
>>  when approaching a sailor on port tack, should attempt to hold the
>>  course that is being sailed so that the port tack sailor can maneuver
>>  to avoid a collision.
>
>What you failed to mention is that the sailor on starboard tack has to
>yell "starboard tack", the sailor on port tack has to yell "hold your
>course." The starboard-tack sailor is then expected to hold his course.
>In this way, both know what their respective rights are, and the mirror
>problem doesn't occur.
>
>Of course these rules were all made up for the gentlemanly sport of
>yachting, not for freefall-on-water conditions where you can hardly
>hear yourself scream, never mind anyone else.
>
>David
----------
The port tack windsurfer should make an obvious course change to show
the starboard tack sailor that the right of way is being yielded.  In a
strong flood, I often sheet-out and slow way down to indicate that I see
a starboard tack sailor and that I'm yielding right-of-way.

Kirk out
From: kenb@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Ken Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
Subject: Re: lifejacket
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:49:15 GMT
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.

In article <1992Sep1.155455.26838@bnlux1.bnl.gov> moc@bnl.gov writes:
>	Does anybody know of a windsurfing helmet that will fit over a wetsuit
>hood?  I've tried Xtra Large Protec helmets but they are not large enough 
>to fit over a hood.  Since most of my 4.0 sailing requires a hood, I've been 
>reluctant to buy a helmet.  How are the helmets with the adjustable ear protectors,


Take the foam inserts out of the Protec and it will fit over a hood
just fine.  The foam in my Protec is attached with velcro strips.  In
the winter when I want the hood up, I remove the foam and sail with
hood and helmet.

I've got a 5 day weekend starting tonight to go chase wind.  Yeh!

Ken
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: cbh@windsurf.scd.ucar.edu (Cris Hannu)
Subject: Re: Lifejackets while windsurfing
Reply-To: cbh@windsurf.scd.ucar.edu (Cris Hannu)
Organization: NCAR / Scientific Computing Division, Boulder CO.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:22:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.023452.6688@sj.nec.com>, brahms@delaware.tdd.sj.nec.com (George Skillman  x2921) writes:
> In article <1992Aug21.182039.22736@engage.pko.dec.com> stu@otop23.enet.dec.com writes:
> >
> >Being a responsible parent (with a wife who is terrified of water), I have 
> >been asked by my family to wear a life jacket while sailing.
> > ...
> >
> 
> I get the willies thinking about what might happen to me if my board ran
> off from me and I couldn't catch up to it.  So far, it hasn't happened, but
> I'm not a great swimmer so I think it's conceivable.
> 
> Perhaps I'm paranoid or simply underestimating other people's swimming
> abilities, but I think it's rather crazy to go out on the water without
> some kind of floatation device.

Actually, trying to swim (at speed) with a PFD on is *more* difficult than
without.

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