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Subject: Re: RULEBOOK TRIVIA 14
From: z_stiersdr@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Date: 24 Jul 92 11:04:21 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In article <92205.211559IO20456@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, Ryan Robbins <IO20456@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
> With nobody on, the batter hits a high pop-up in front of the
> plate. The catcher gets into position to make the catch, but loses
> sight of the ball just before it comes down and bounces off his
> glove, which is over the plate. The ball squirts to the backstop.
> The catcher retrieves the ball and throws it back to the pitcher.
> The pitcher takes his position on the rubber, the catcher and
> batter go to their boxes, and the pitcher pitches. The batter
> grounds the ball back to the pitcher, and the pitcher throws the
> ball to first for the out. How is this play scored?
> 
> 
> +===============================================================+
> ||   RYAN ROBBINS                    INTERNET:                 ||
> ||   UNIVERSITY OF MAINE             IO20456@MAINE.MAINE.EDU   ||
> +===============================================================+

Well for one thing, the umpire should be pointing fair ball because
the catchers glove was over the plate.  Therefore the next pitch should
not even occur if the umpire is doing his job.


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From: twromero@McRCIM.McGill.EDU (Michael Lin)
Subject: Re: Taking Third
Originator: twromero@fangorn.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Organization: McGill Research Centre for  Intelligent Machines
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 22:55:25 GMT


What is the value of third base when there are two outs?  Is it ever worth the risk to steal third with two outs?  I know the old saying "never make the first or third out of an inning at third," but is that always the case.  Can someone tell me a situaltion when you go against this rule?

-Brian


    Well, have you heard of manufacturing a run??

With 2 outs, if you somehow steal 3rd base, you can get a tying or
winning run without the benefit of getting a clutch hit. The pitcher
can uncork a wild one, the catcher could let one pass by him, or even
on the attempt to throw out the runner taking third from 2nd, he could
throw it into the left field and hence allowing a run to be scored.

Need I say more?

Michael
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From: kirsch@epx.cis.umn.edu (Dave Nobody Kirsch)
Subject: Re: Value of Stats
Organization: Dominican Deities - Juan Guzman levitation branch
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:47:44 GMT

In article <Jul.26.16.09.30.1992.14375@pilot.njin.net> gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob "Walk is my fave pitcher" Gajarsky) writes:
>
>can you believe (anyone) that someone had the gall to mention
> jack morris as a serious candidate for the cy young award - while
> NOT mentioning roger clemens????  i couldn't. it was on 
> wfan late yesterday morning.  and it was one of their
> broadcasters..,mentioned guzman, morris, one of the orioles
> pitchers, i think smiley, and a couple others.  and
> no roger.  wow.

  Gee, this wasn't a MEDIOT, was it? Surprise. 

  Sure, Morris could win the Cy Young and deserve it (maybe) if he goes 12-0
with a 0.21 ERA the rest of the way. Right. 

  Guzman, Appier and Clemens would be the obvious candidates right now, with 
a few others lingering around. Morris winning the Cy would make almost as
much sense as him placing in the top 5 last year. Oops, sorry. My ribs were 
aching the other night when someone (Ray Knight?) on Baseball Tonight left
Guzman off the 'potential Cy Young' list and included people like Kevin Brown
and I believe Morris on the list. Ooh. No insult intended towards Mr. Brown, 
but ... 
 
-- 
Dave Hung Like a Jim Acker Slider Kirsch       "Blue Jays all the way in '92"
kirsch@epx.cis.umn.edu                                      Jeff Kent for ROY
"Try new Fortenberry wine coolers, with a biting, bitter taste" - Noel Steere
Slanguage dictionary: maynard - "to insult with disdain and contempt"
From: hg.uleth.ca!savoy@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: GMaddux to Test Free Agency Waters
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:21:00 GMT
Organization: University of Lethbridge
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant


> rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:

>Maybe he wants to pitch in a pitchers park like say.. Busch Stadium
>or the Oakland Coliseum?

Well if he has any designs on making it into the Hall-of-Fame someday, he
might have to bolt out of Wrigley. He's arguably the best pitcher in the
league, and can probably get any amount of money he wants elsewhere. Oakland
will have a lot of spare cash at the end of the year and they could 
definitely
use the pitching - my guess is that he will not re-sign with the Cubs unless
they make him an offer as great as the one they made to Sandberg. And my
prediction is that he will be an Athletic next year.


 
_____________________________________________________________________________
     Jim Savoy          University Of Lethbridge         savoy@hg.uleth.ca

  Meanwhile in Washington, at the headquarters of F.E.A.R. - the Federal Egg
  Answering Room - in reality a front name for F.E.E.B.L.E. - the Free World
  Extra-Earthly Bodies Location and Extermination Centre... all was not well.
From: dtate+@pitt.edu (David M Tate)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Sheridan's odds
Date: 22 Jul 92 02:55:50 GMT
Organization: Factors of Ys, Inc.

In article <54675@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> jasdzews@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary James Jasdzewski) writes:

>Sheridan's odds against winning the pennant and World Series:
>     
>     Milwaukee           50:1        100:1

These are both good bets.  I'd risk $10 on Milwaukee at 50:1...

>     Detroit           2000:1       5000:1
>     K C               5000:1      10000:1
>     Seattle           5000:1      10000:1
>     California   1 million:1  5 million:1
>     Cleveland    1 million:1  5 million:1

I'd *certainly* risk $1 on Detroit at 2000:1.  In fact, all of these odds
are such that you could put down pocket change and stand to win a sizeable
sum with fairly reasonable odds.  Say $1 on each.  There's probably at least
a 1% chance of one of these 5 winning a division, and 50/50 from there for
the pennant.  It's a lot better than playing the Lottery...



-- 
       David Tate        |"Out of the dugout endlessly swinging,
 dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu | Out of the manager's throat, the sound fundamentals,
 Prof. of Story Problems | Out of the six-month season..."            
 Member ORSA, TIMS, SABR | 	Walt "Lefty" Whitman
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From: stailey@snoopy.comm.mot.com (Mike Stailey)
Subject: Re: Shoot Harry
Reply-To: stailey@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:00:09 GMT

(Rob Holmes) writes:

*How in the hell can anyone stand to listen to Harry Carry (sp?)?  I was trying
*to watch the Cubs-Reds game last night but I kept getting interupted by that
*slob clearing his throat.  And the way he calls a game is just wonderful: 
*"there's a ffff...no it was a curve and it was in there for a strike.  I think
*that was a slinder."  When is this guy going to get the boot.  Do the people of
*Chicago really like this guy?  And he always says "we" when referring to the
*Cubs.  I didn't know that he was on the roster. I say, move to the west, 
*fire Harry, and money-wise, you should come out about even.


 Harry Caray is a Chicago institution and won't be canned by WGN any time
 soon. Granted, he isn't the greatest of play by play guy but he is in
 the Hall of Fame. If you don't like it... turn down the sound or try
 to pick up the WGN radio broadcast.


 --
 Michael                      
 stailey@comm.mot.com
From: st1ge@Rosie.UH.EDU (Edward Hui)
Subject: Re: Need More Giants Postings
Reply-To: st1ge@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 05:42:34 GMT

In article <4200319@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell) writes:
>Can't judge Mitchell's possible performance in the NL by his AL numbers.
>Different pitchers, different umps, different strike zone...no one can
>say what he may have done.  We will know next year if he is washed up
>given that he has no intention of returning to Seattle.

    No excuse here.  Mitchell is playing in the homerdome now.  The AL
also have a lot more hitter's park.  So I conclude that if he can hit
47 HR while playing half of the games in Candlestick, he should have
no problem in the AL.  He needed to get out of Seattle.

Edward Hui
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Buffalo
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 16:42:13 GMT

In article <wePfI=_00Uh_I1OM0u@andrew.cmu.edu> tf0y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Todd Harris Fletcher) writes:

>If I remember correctly, Barry was a hacker when he came up from Hawaii.
> Does anyone have his season by season stats for his career?

Bonds was not a high OBP player when he came up, but he was certainly not a
real hacker.  These are his BAs and OBPs season by season:
	BA	OBP
'86	.223	.330
'87	.261	.329 (the closest thing to "hacking")
'88	.283	.368
'89	.248	.351
'90	.301	.406
'91	.292	.410

Bonds' roughly 1 year in the minors did now show hacking either:

'85A	.299	.383
'86AAA	.311	.435

These are Garcia's majors and AAA numbers:

Majors:

'90	.500	.500 (only 4 PA)
'91	.250	.280 (25 PA)

AAA:

'90	.263	.323
'91	.266	.322

Definitely more "hacking" than Bonds.

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
Committee to Elect Johnny Ray as Angels Second Baseman
Committee to Elect Mike Witt as Angels Ace
Committee to Elect Cookie Rojas as Angels Manager
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: sckelm@iastate.edu (Steven C Kelm)
Subject: Twins Baserunning
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:31:47 GMT

I'm not sure how many people saw last night's Twins/Red Sox game on ESPN, 
but for those who did, I am curious on your reaction to some of the Twins
decisions on the bases.  The time in question is the top of the 4th.  
Shane Mack doubles to start the inning.  Kirby doubles him home, Twins up 
3-1.  Chili Davis hits a single to left-center, medium depth, and Kirby tries 
to score but is thrown out at the plate.  Davis moves to second on the throw. 
Replays showed that Puckett was actually safe, but the decision to send him is
the question here.  If Kirby stays at third, you have men at 1st and 3rd with 
nobody down.  The Twins were hitting very well up to this point so why not hold
him?  Any reactions.  The same inning Chili tried to score on a sac fly and 
was gunned down by Tom Brunansky when he went in standing up.  If he had slid 
he would have been safe.  All in all it was a very ugly inning.

As a side note,  Joe Morgan made a statement that I thought was rather 
curious.  Billy Hatcher had just scored from second with some very good 
baserunning. (If I remember correctly, there was a single to right that Munoz 
did not get to quickly and tossed the ball to Hrbek who, for some reason,
didn't realize that Hatcher was attempting to score.)  Following this, Morgan 
said that he would rather have a lead-off hitter with a lower OBP that could 
"make things happen" as opposed to a lead-off with a higher OBP that played 
"station to station".  I think he was referring to Wade Boggs vs. anyone that 
can run.  If this is what he was referring to then I agree as I don't think 
that Boggs would be a good lead-off hitter and is better suited to #2 or 3, 
but in general I don't agree with simply having your fastest man as lead-off, 
which seems to be what he was saying.  Reaction?

Steven Kelm



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From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Re: They're He-eeere...!! (Expos,Expos,Expos)
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:53:48 GMT

In article <29JUL199212111077@pavo.concordia.ca> p_emond@pavo.concordia.ca (PATRICK EMOND) writes:

>
> And in case you didn't realize it--THE EXPOS ARE IN FIRST PLACE! (Felt like
> yelling it, hope you don't mind).

yes, with a whopping .530 record. WOOOO-OOOO, cant wait till cincy and atlanta
come home to the east, leaving the 'spos and the 'rats to battle for third...

(i can never resist a good dig at the nl least)

-rob


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From: dgh2@quads.uchicago.edu (Doug Huffer)
Subject: More quiz questions (WAS: Re: 1951 Baseball Encyclopedia)
Keywords: 1951 Baseball Encyclopedia  
Reply-To: dgh2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:00:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.174933.2330@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> piz@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (G G ZIPFEL) writes:
>In article <BrpIEu.Bzv@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jhg8680@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon  Hamkins) writes:
>>dgh2@quads.uchicago.edu (Doug Huffer) writes:
>>
>>>Can a team get six hits in an inning and not score a run?? (Remember, based
>>>on 1951 rules, so scoring may have changed since then, I'm not sure.)   
>>
>>Sure.
>>
>>1.  Single.  Pickoff.  1 out.
>>2.  Single.  Pickoff.  2 outs.
>>3.  Single.
>>4.  Single.
>>5.  Single.  Bases now loaded.
>
> 6. Outfield shallow, single, Fisk-esque runner on third is thrown out at
>    the plate.

As far as I can tell this has been the only wrong answer so far (sorry ;-)).
Rule 10.06 (c) (Was 10.04 (h) in 1951).  "A base hit shall not be scored
in the following cases: (c) When the pitcher, the catcher, or any infielder
handles a batted ball and puts out a preceeding runner who is attempting
to advance one base or return to his original base, ... "  

Somebody did suggest that if the batter-runner got thrown out between first
and second before the runner from third scored this would count as a hit.  
I can't find any reason why the other accounts wouldn't be correct, 
although the book only gives one answer.  Some of these question I know  
have at least two answers, so the book isn't always complete.  

Oh ya - book gives the baserunner interference example for the previous 
question.   


1. How can a batter drive in 3 runs without hitting a fair ball? 
    
2. Trick question. Bases loaded. Batter hits ball over centerfield fence, 
yet not a man scores.  How?

3. What are the three "appeal" plays?    

4. Another trick question: Who played most years in the majors, Rogers 
Hornsby or Babe Ruth? 

5. Which players had the same last name as the city of their birth? 


There's more, but almost all are easier then these.  Enjoy ;)  

>
>>6 hits, no runs.
>>
>>I wasn't alive in the 50's, so I must claim ignorance if the rules
>>regarding appeal plays were different back then.  I don't imagine they
>>were, though.
>>
>>     ----Jon Hamkins  (hamkins@uiuc.edu)
>
>	Same here,
>

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    When location of home base is determined, with a stell tape mea-
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From Baseballs Official Rules, 1992 edition.  Without permission, of course.
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From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Subject: Re: OBPxSLG 
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:54:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Boo!  

In <1992Jul21.164009.19888@brtph560.bnr.ca> usscoop1@bnr.ca (Chuck McCusker P015) writes:

>Yesterday I read in the Village Voice that they use team OBP times SLG
>to get an offensive measure of a team and ERA as a pitching measure.
>I would like to hear some opinions on this.

I assume the piece was written by Allen Barra - he's usually responsible
for the decent analysis which does appear in the Village sports pages.
As far as OBPxSLG goes, it's basically very similar to Bill James' Runs
Created, and it's a pretty good measure of offensive productivity.


Greg 





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Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt Bose "of Biscayzee")
Subject: Re: Hey Hey Hey ... Goodbye
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 07:05:02 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico

In article <0eRhuPG00WB4Q_C60l@andrew.cmu.edu> al1x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Amit Likhyani) writes:
>Steve Cooke and Blas Minor got hammered.  Damn.  Today's USA Today said the
>Pirates may trade for Jay Howell.  You have to wonder about that one.  I
>guess if Howell is healthy, he has some value.  It's not going to shift
>the balance of power any.
>
Actually, I'm of the opinion that this would be a Good Thing for both teams. If
I were Claire, I'd trade him to you for a fairly good A player...is Matt Ruebel
available???

If I were the Pirates, I'd pick him up if the price isn't high.  He'd HAVE to
be an improvement over the non-people they've got, he's actually not pitched 
too badly over the last few years, from what I saw, and he seems like he could
fit in with the "bullpen-by-committee", in that Leyland wouldn't feel like he
HAD to put Jay in for all the save situations.  Also, the Pirates wouldn't HAVE
to protect him at the end of the year.  I believe he'll be a 5-and-10 man for
Los Angeles, so unless he gets dumped, Los Angeles has to put him on the 15 man
roster.  This means that Carlos Hernandez or Pedro Astacio gets left open in the
expansion draft, and I don't think that's a Good Thing.

Well, sirs?

-- 
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I AM a Junior Stathead.  Flame me; it's fun!  I'm a shutmouthed, selfless idiot!
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From: dbloom@bnr.ca David Bloom 
Subject: CF METS
Organization: BNR-RTP 
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:01:41 GMT

I heard a rumor that Howard Johnson has agreed to
move to left field permanently. Is this true? 
Are the Mets looking to make a trade for a CF or will
they continue to play Pat Howell/Daryl Boston/Dave Gallagher
there.  Release Vince Coleman, he is worthless on the DL all
the time.
From: clburk@bb1t.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: ** Wiffleball **
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:40:31 CST
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO



	The wiffleball field I've become accustomed to the past few years is
WiffleDome South in St. Louis.  It's a bar that has a converted garage on the
side that is used to play wiffleball and fuzzball.  The fact that it is 
air-conditioned, has benches, pitchers of beer and posted rules has made it my
favorite ballpark.  Oh, there is pizza and burgers too.  Kinda takes the game
to a new level.  Playing indoors also is a treat because the pitches seem to
move faster and are more consistent since there is no wind to hassle with.

	The rules keep the scores close and most games end up being a pitchers
dual which IMHO is the way it should be.  

3 outs and inning, 5 inning games with extra innings on a tie.  Team with most
hits in extra innings win.

2 strikes and 5 balls.  If you swing at a pitch and the catcher catches it it
is an out.  A foul is out.  A foul tip that the catcher catches with runners
on base is a double play.

Everything in front of the plate is a single unless it hits the back wall on a 
fly which is considered a home run.  (Back wall is about 80 feet.)

No fielders.  Only pitcher and catcher per team.  May bat as many people as you
like.

	While I recognize that these are not the only rules, these are the
best I've seen for that type of situation.  It gives the game a real 'baseball'
feel.  If you are playing in a league the bar will supply an ump and keep
stats like batting average and era.   I've played a few games there and I've 
seen some players do things with a wiffleball I never would have imagined.
I'm not sure of the physics involved but I would swear I say a guy through a 
70 mph fastball.  I was pretty impressed considering my pitches only rate in
the high 40's.

								Chris
From: tmiller@prism.gatech.EDU (Thomas Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Most fascinating ballpark?
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:28:24 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


  Fascinating ballpark?

  I don't know, maybe the one with hallucinogenic smoke floating
around everywhere?


:)



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From: fzchen@othello.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Braves Fans
Date: 26 Jul 92 01:09:27 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

Let's not forget that one of the things it takes to overtake a first
place team is for the first place team to have a losing streak.  With
the Braves big two of Glavine and Smoltz, and Avery, Liebrandt, Beilecki
on the other days, its hard to see them going into a long losing 
streak.  When managers say good pitching wins pennants, this is what
they mean.
From: lotto@math.berkeley.edu (Ben Lotto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Strike 1 on Commissioner
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:19:16
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
	<1992Jul24.174851.3874@leland.Stanford.EDU> <36088@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: asmara.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: demers@cs.ucsd.edu's message of 24 Jul 92 20:14:41 GMT

>>>>> On 24 Jul 92 20:14:41 GMT, demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers) said:

David> If distance is the issue, then we need two groups of six such
David> that the sum of the intra-group distances is minimized.
David> Although this is an NP hard problem, n is small so exhaustive
David> search is feasible.  There are 12 choose 6 / 2 possibilities,
David> which might be 462 if my arithmetic is correct.  Some can be
David> pruned, like all with both San Diego and Montreal.  It is
David> likely that the best solution will have LA, San Diego and SF
David> (and Denver) in the same division, further reducing the number
David> to check.

I did this, with distances (in miles) from a Rand McNally road atlas.
(I know, I know, I should be using air distances, but I used what I
had.  If someone mails me the air distances, or even the latitudes and
longitudes, I'll do the other.)  The distance from Montreal and
Cincinatti is an estimate (907 mi)---it wasn't on the chart.  Here are
the results.  Each line contains the aggregate distance and the teams
that would be in the same division as Atlanta.  (I chose Atlanta
because it's comes first in the alphabet.)  The smallest 20 agg.
distances are given, as well as the largest (just for fun).  If you
want the whole list, or the program, e-mail me.

42425: ATL CIN MIA MTL NY PHI PIT
43024: ATL DEN HOU LA SD SF STL
43430: ATL CHI CIN MTL NY PHI PIT
43712: ATL CHI MIA MTL NY PHI PIT
44020: ATL DEN HOU LA MIA SD SF
44829: ATL CIN MTL NY PHI PIT STL
44979: ATL CHI DEN HOU LA SD SF
45247: ATL MIA MTL NY PHI PIT STL
45600: ATL CIN DEN HOU LA SD SF
45661: ATL CHI CIN MIA MTL NY PHI
46096: ATL CHI MTL NY PHI PIT STL
46221: ATL CHI CIN MIA NY PHI PIT
47018: ATL CHI CIN MIA MTL NY PIT
47064: ATL CIN MIA MTL NY PHI STL
47086: ATL CHI CIN MIA MTL PHI PIT
47382: ATL CIN MIA NY PHI PIT STL
47431: ATL HOU MIA MTL NY PHI PIT
47525: ATL DEN HOU LA PIT SD SF
47603: ATL CHI CIN MTL NY PHI STL
47859: ATL CHI MIA MTL NY PHI STL

63455: ATL CHI DEN HOU LA NY PIT
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