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From: lance@lancea.actrix.gen.nz (Lance Andrewes)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Query: Taking a fax machine to NZ
Distribution: world
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 11:34:30 GMT
Keywords: voltage, frequency

In article <Bvv7vw.6rE@nic.umass.edu> dtodd@titan.ucc.umass.edu (David M. Todd) writes:

>I have the same question about a portable computer tape backup unit.
>It is powered with a 110v transformer.  Can I plug that into a
>230v-110v converter o.k.?

There should be no problem in connecting 110Vac equipment via a
230/110Vac step-down _transformer_.  Keep away from "converters"
though.  These can most easily be identified by their small size,
light weight and low cost (relative to a step-down transformer).
 They are only suitable for things like electric razors.

I don't think you are supposed to use a 50Hz transformer on a 60Hz
supply (something to do with core-heating), but it's fine the other
way around.

I have used a number of 110V 60Hz items on the NZ power system, via
a step-down transformer.  These include radios, tape recorders and
a modem.  No worries at all.
__
 _______  Email: lance@lancea.actrix.gen.nz
////      ZL2AJH    Wellington, New Zealand

Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: obrien@laima.aa.washington.edu (Scott O'Brien)
Subject: Re: NZ fruit
Reply-To: obrien@laima.aa.washington.edu (Scott O'Brien)
Organization: U of Wash Dept of Aeronautics and Astronautics
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:25:26 GMT

> 
|> During a visit to New Zealand I was offered a very delicious fruit
|> called "feijoa" or something like that. I had never seen or heard
|> about it before.
|> 

I'm not sure of the spelling but I am sure if it was native we have sold it to 
many other counties by now.

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Transplanted Kiwi
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From: higham@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: moeraki-boulders
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:18:08 +1300
Followup-To: soc.culture.new-zealand
Distribution: soc
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <P.N.Henderson-121092101726@130.123.3.90>, news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System) writes:
> In article <S91001RA.92Oct9191714@cs1.sfc.keio.ac.jp>,
> s91001ra@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Rie Aizawa) wrote:
>> 
>> To All,
>> 
>> I have been to New Zealand for about 7 weeks during my summer holidays
>> 
>> in Japan.  I visited Moeraki-boulders near Oamaru and I am still 
>> 
>> wondering why those huge stones have been made.  Can anyone answer this
>> 
>> question?
> 
> 
> These boulders were not created by man, they are naturally formed 'foam
> bubbles' of a lava flow which over thousands of years solidified into the
> round rocks you see today.  As the nearest volcano is a *long* way away, I
> don't think scientists have quite worked out how they got there.

This is nonsense. The Moeraki Boulders are concretions. Concretions are
basically bodies of rock which differ from their immediate surroundings due to
their tough or harder nature. In this case, the concretions have resulted from
the chemical precipitation of calcite, quartz, limonite etc binding to the
original parent grains at the centre of the boulder. They erode or are eroding
out of the sediment within which they were deposited which,I think, is Tertiary
grey siltstone. So basically, they form sort of like a snowball forms, in situ,
by a process of precipitation, within a softer strata. IN ideal conditions,
they are able to 'grow' outwards, in the case of the boulders at Moeraki, in a
perfect sphere shape. They're not volcanic, but if they were then the volcanic 
crater of the Dunedin harbour is not _that_ far away.
They are truly a magnificent sight though, and well worth a visit.
-- 
Tom Higham,                    
Radiocarbon Dating Lab,
University of Waikato,
Hamilton,
NEW ZEALAND.
Higham@waikato.ac.nz /
C14@waikato.ac.nz
From: paul@taniwha.UUCP (Paul Campbell)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: NZ fruit
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:02:32 GMT
Organization: Taniwha Systems Design

In article <1992Oct12.085428.10293@dde.dk> ct@dde.dk (Claus Tondering) writes:
>During a visit to New Zealand I was offered a very delicious fruit
>called "feijoa" or something like that. I had never seen or heard
>about it before.

>Does it grow anywhere else in the world?

Yes here in California it's an ornamental shrub (but then so is manuka),
sometimes I see rather sad looking ones in the supermarket

	Paul


-- 
Paul Campbell    UUCP: ..!mtxinu!taniwha!paul     AppleLink: CAMPBELL.P
	
       	So far the Republican's economic policy is best described
		     as "C'est la vie Capitalism"
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: moeraki-boulders
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 04:08:32 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.new-zealand
Distribution: soc
Organization: Info Systems Dept, Massey University, New Zealand

In article <1992Oct12.151808.11368@waikato.ac.nz>, higham@waikato.ac.nz
wrote:
> 
>> in Japan.  I visited Moeraki-boulders near Oamaru and I am still 
> >> wondering why those huge stones have been made.  Can anyone answer this 
> >> question?
> > > 
> > These boulders were not created by man, they are naturally formed 'foam
> > bubbles' of a lava flow which over thousands of years solidified into the
> > round rocks you see today.  As the nearest volcano is a *long* way away, I
> > don't think scientists have quite worked out how they got there.
> 
> This is nonsense. The Moeraki Boulders are concretions. Concretions are
> basically bodies of rock which differ from their immediate surroundings due to
> their tough or harder nature. In this case, the concretions have resulted from


No need to be rude, thank you very much! :-(  I went on a school visit to
Moeraki when I was at High School, and was told by whoever was leading the
party that they were what I said above.  Funnily enough, I believed them!!

> They are truly a magnificent sight though, and well worth a visit.

I agree.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: dtodd@titan.ucc.umass.edu (David M. Todd)
Subject: Re: Query: Taking a fax machine to NZ
Keywords: voltage, frequency
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:43:07 GMT

In article <7014@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> ramanath+@pitt.edu (Jayaram Ramanathan) writes:
>A friend of mine is taking a fax-copying-answering-phone machine from
>the U.S. to NZ.  It's a 110V, 60Hz rated machine.
>
>Transformers that he looked at in stores here state they are not recommended 
>for use with computers and fax machines.  Would someone in net-land suggest
>what additional equipment needs to be used to solve the problem?  Thanks.
>
>Please e-mail to me at: ramanath@unix.cis.pitt.edu  OR
>			u3428aa@unx.ucc.okstate.edu
>
>Jay Ramanathan

I have the same question about a portable computer tape backup unit.
It is powered with a 110v transformer.  Can I plug that into a
230v-110v converter o.k.?

 
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David M. Todd ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
|Department of Psychology, University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA 01003 USA|
|Phone: 413/545-0158 ___ <DTodd@Titan.ucc.UMass.EDU> _____  Fax: 413/545-0996|

Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand,alt.usage.english
From: bena@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Ben Aveling)
Subject: Re: The Right Honourable Wanker
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 04:48:38 GMT

Jack Campin (jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk) wrote:
: 
: According to a newspaper snippet published here a few months ago, the
: Speaker of the New Zealand Parliament ruled that "wanker" was acceptable
: parliamentary language.  Who are we to set more exacting precedents?...

Some time back, a member of the Opposition here tried to describe the 
government as wankers.  He was asked to retract, and tried to explain
that he meant that they were deluding themselves.  He was persuaded
to say so explicitly, and was about to procede when there was a call
from the government backbench.
"Would the honorable member please remove his hand from his pocket!"

	:-)	Ben
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: rye@medici.trl.OZ.AU (Rye Senjen)
Subject: Re:contract work in nz (me too)
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 03:26:22 GMT

From article <rolandi.718378186@andy>, by rolandi@hssc.scarolina.edu (Walter Rolandi):
> 
> can anyone tell me how one might go about finding AI/HCI contract
> work in new zealand?  who are the major players there and how does
> one contact them?  what about government issues, visas, etc.?  is
> the economic climate there as bad as it is in australia?
> 
> thanks.
> 
> 
 I would be very interested in this info too (the major players
that is - I know about the rest like climate etc), as I am hoping 
 to move back to NZ end of next year (I am a New Zealand citizen)

 Thanks for your help. RYE

r.senjen@trl.oz.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY)
Subject: Re: TO ALL CANADIAN WHO LIVE IN TORONTO!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 10:32:00 GMT

In article <hatton.718701876@cgl.ucsf.edu>, hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton)     writes...
>migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey) writes:

>P.S. Living in the US for a few years has revealed that not all Americans
>are like L.G., but far too many are.


I'm English, living in England
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: scooper6@mach1.wlu.ca (stephen cooper 9209 U)
Subject: Re: TO ALL CANADIAN WHO LIVE IN TORONTO!!
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:21:26 GMT

In article <9OCT199206080694@sscvx1.ssc.gov> godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY) writes:
>
>You have my sympathy - Canada is an extremely boring and mediocre country, and 
>Toronto is extremely cold.  Could you not have chosen an 8 months period
>that did not encompass the whole of winter?
>
>For sights and lifestyle, cross the border and head south or west.  It's
>much less expensive and has lots of interesting things to see.  East, west
>and North or toronto is just a wasteland.  By the way I am English, not
>American, so this is an entirely objective apraisal!!
>
>Laurence
>

No I strongly object!  I would much rather live in Canada than the US any
day!  I don't want to start a Canada vs US war, but I think that Canada is a
great place to live.  If you want any information at all about Canada, the
best source would be from the Canadian Embassy.  I'm sure they have all
sorts of tourism material and other information.  I'm also sure they'd be
more than willing to help.

Steve

-- 
Steve Cooper    |    Internet:  scooper6@mach1.wlu.ca
Waterloo, Ontario
Canada!!
"...J'aurais voulu etre un anarchiste, et vivre comme un millionaire."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: anne@cs.UAlberta.CA (Anne J.R. Nield)
Subject: Re: Could Charlottetown happen in the US?
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:20:14 GMT

bross@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Brian J Ross) writes:

 No, Canadian politicians 
>have all the generic traits found in their American cousins, and
>everywhere else for that matter.

They may have all the "generic traits", but they seem to be moderated
by SOMETHING. At least we haven't had the spectre of a Pat Buchanan
type horror show a la the Republican Convention yet.  And no-one has
leapt into the fray accusing the others of various perverted character
traits related to their personal lives.  Although I started to wonder
when I saw the three wives (Mulroney, Bourassa, Chretien) displayed
front and center at the yes campaign rally -- we still have a way to
go before Mila and Aline (and Audrey!)
have chocolate chip cookie baking contests
to prove who is the best "real" woman.  AARRGH!

Admittedly, this isn't an election, and the "Big Three" are all 
busy pretending to
be working together "for the good of the country" -- but I still think
there are some pretty basic differences in the PUBLIC behavior of
politicians in the US and Canada.  They're all annoying in the extreme,
however, and I wish we'd stop encouraging them with all this attention
they're getting!

Cheers!

Anne
  
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From: clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.politics
Subject: Distinct Society (was: Individual Rights)
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:04:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bw8D2t.B99.1
	<1992Oct13.184856.833@mdivax1.uucp> <1992Oct15.141802.19160@sco.COM>
	<1992Oct16.142238.16727@bmerh85.bnr.ca>
Reply-To: clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Originator: clamen@BYRON.SP.CS.CMU.EDU

In article <1992Oct16.142238.16727@bmerh85.bnr.ca> robinc@bnr.ca (Robin Collins) writes:


   Ross,
   Aside from the fact that one does not "protect" culture, but create with it,
   if it is to survive without coercion, I think it is still a fact that
   there are "racial" concepts in the Proposal as well as cultural ones
   and linguistic ones.

   The Aboriginal clauses are without question racial in content, the
   distinct society clause certainly refers not just to _a_
   language/culture group.  (At least that is the interpretation
   implied according to the Quebecois "pur laine" hacks.) Just in
   terms of the idea that for a Quebecois to be distinct, he/she has
   to be a francophone, and bilinguals whose mother tongue is not
   french don't count....raises certain questions....

Please allow me in interrupt here.  The "distinct society" is supposed
to embrace ALL Quebecers, whatever their mother tongue.  I haven't
heard talk of one set of rules for pur-laine Quebecois, and another
set of rules for the other 25+% of Quebec society.

--
Stewart M. Clamen			Internet:    clamen@cs.cmu.edu
School of Computer Science		UUCP: 	     uunet!"clamen@cs.cmu.edu"
Carnegie Mellon University		Phone: 	     +1 412 268 2145
5000 Forbes Avenue			Fax:	     +1 412 268 5739
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From: mousseau@paun01.pa.msu.edu (Normand Mousseau)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.politics
Subject: Re: I was going to vote yes, BUT NOW ....
Date: 10 Oct 92 00:18:03 GMT
Reply-To: mousseau@paun01.pa.msu.edu (Normand Mousseau)
Organization: Michigan State University



	D'accord, Mark et Frank m'ont convaincu.  Dans ma tete, un 'senateur
francophone' ne pouvait represente que le Quebec, et donc la double majorite
aurait assure un droit de veto au Quebec. (Il me faut reconnaitre que comme
beaucoup de Quebecois, je commets souvent l'erreur d'oublier les francophones hors-Quebec, et je m'en excuse aupres de tous ceux concernes.) Il m'apparait
maintenant clairement que toute l'idee de senateurs
francophones et anglophones ne tient pas debout.  Il est evident que ce
que les premiers ministres avaient en tete etaient de remettre au Quebec
le fameux droit de veto  sur les questions touchant directement a la
culture francophone sans pour autant lever les boucliers dans le reste
du pays. Malheureusement, comme pour la plupart des clauses de l'accord, celle-ci a ete redigee en vitesse et se retrouve simplement inapplicable.
Il ne me reste plus qu'a attendre pour voir ce qui se passera avec
toutes les provinces SAUF le Quebec votant 'Oui' au prochain referendum.
La question constitutionelle n'est pas prete de s'eteindre au Canada !
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: jdnicoll@watyew.uwaterloo.ca (James Davis Nicoll)
Subject: California vs  Canada
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:10:50 GMT

	My parents emmigrated from San Francisco to Ontario back in
the  1950s for several reasons, some of which no longer apply:

	1: Politics: In the 1950s USA, one could make a political career
		out Red-baiting, and any political nonconformity on one's
		own  part or on the part of one's relatives could be used
		as grounds for official harrassment. This was less true in
		Canada or at least manifested itself in different ways. Since
		my parents were atheists and my grandmother rather pink
		in her politics, the 1950s USA was not a fun place to be.
		Judging from the 'liberal-baiting' in  1988, and the
		'Clinton is a KGB  agent' nonsense going on now, this
		aspect of the US has not changed much.

	2: Economics: UW had just opened,and presented a major opportunity
		for my father to get in at the founding of an engineering
		department (Although full professorhood eluded him til the
		late 60s).

	3: Weather and climate: My parents missed weather more interesting
		than the range found in SF (Raining vs sunny, morning
		fog optional). Having gotten  used to real weather, settling
		for meteorological pablum did not appeal to them. Ontario
		has some challenging weather, although other parts of Canada
		beat Ontario hands down in this regard  (Not BC, though).

								James Nicoll
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey)
Subject: Re: TO ALL CANADIAN WHO LIVE IN TORONTO!!
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:49:33 GMT

>LAURENCE GODFREY (godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov) wrote:
>>You have my sympathy - Canada is an extremely boring and mediocre country, 
>>and Toronto is extremely cold.  Could you not have chosen an 8 months period
>>that did not encompass the whole of winter?

I keep hoping this charming fellow will dry up and blow away.  Since he
seems intent on abuse, and since Godfrey is an uncommon name in North
America, I would like to add that Laurence and I are not related, and in
particular are not the same person.  Thank you very much.


In article <1992Oct9.203220.3156@mdivax1.uucp> robinson@mdd.comm.mot.com (Jim Robinson) writes:
>Vancouver is even more boring, mediocre, and cold than TO. Please do not
>even *think* about visiting, let alone moving here. :-)

You left out damp :-)

-- 
Mike Godfrey	          "I will not expose the ignorance of the faculty.
Dept of Comp Sci, UofT     I will not expose the ignorance of the faculty."
migod@turing.toronto.edu			   	-- The Simpsons

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From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Subject: In QC, Yes is selling Quebec, No is talking about Canada
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:09:31 GMT

The no committee finally did it : on the SRC period allocated to both
OUI and NON committee, the NON sales speach included many statistics
about how bad the Canadian economy was, just like saying the Canada
is now in a bad economical situation because of too much constitution talks
and not enough "good" economical decisions.

After saying the two video and the contrast, I was expecting the federal
NO committee as presenting the NON video, but it was not.  Jean Allaire
made the final speech (this time in color, last week all NON adv were
in black and white).

Perhaps a full new constitutional contract (S-A) will be presented next week?

-- 
  \_\    Denis Beauregard  *  internet:beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
 /   \   Ge'ne'alogiste des familles : Beauregard/Jarret/Jarest/Vincent
J   __>  Un Que'bec renouvele' dans une Ame'rique renove'e
\_.-===  Une entente au contenu insatisfaisant!     Mon opinion ? Non !
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.politics
From: huots00@DMI.USherb.CA (SYLVAIN HUOT)
Subject: Re: I was going to vote yes, BUT NOW ....
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- departement de Mathematiques et d'Informatique
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:20:34 GMT

--> Francophone senators.

Francophone senators is different of Quebec senators.

Anyone that say "Je suis francophone" will be considered a 
"Francophone senator" ????

Sylvain Huot,    
huots00@dmi.usherb.ca

Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY)
Subject: Re: Canada's country code?
Followup-To: soc.culture.canada
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:46:00 GMT

In article <pavalin-071092140406@47.168.128.243>, pavalin@bnr.ca (Paul Valin)               writes...
>In article <Oct.6.13.22.07.1992.14481@romulus.rutgers.edu>,
>kaldis@romulus.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis) wrote:
>> 
>> In fact, the country code for Canada is "002".
> 
>Unless Canada has picked up and moved to Africa, I doubt that the
>country code is '2'.  Where did you get this idea?
> 
>>> vechicle for its use - the telephone - was invented there. :^)
>> 
>> I didn't know that Massachusetts was a part of Canada.
> 
>Same old debate (yawn...)
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
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>Bell-Northern Research Ltd.                    Email: pavalin@bnr.ca
>P.O. Box 3511, Station C
>Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1Y 4H7               'only my opinions...'

Consistent with my frequent claim that Canada has the type of government
usually found in banana republics.

Laurence

Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.politics
From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Internal passports
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 03:25:21 GMT

News reports on the legal text of the Charlottetown Accord indicate
that there are going to be limitations on mobility rights, certainly
as it relates at least to aboriginal governments. 

Further, the lack of a free market clause which allows for the free
movement of goods, services, and people, coupled with the
provincialization of labour market training with NO provisions for
provinces to recognize each other standards, raise the spectre
that provinces to will be able to restrict mobility also, and may
be more inclined to do so, to assert powers to restrict movement
similar to the powers given to another, the aboriginal, order of 
government.

What other collectivities other than aboriginals are going to
assert their collective right to limit the mobility of Canadians...
to protect their language, culture, and religion...perhaps the KKK.

Charlottetown welcomes Canada to the world of internal passports...
and puts Canada on the slippery slope to becoming the new South Africa.

Gerald
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: bkt@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Barrie Trinkle)
Subject: Re: Does Canada sell immigration permits?
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:52:49 GMT

uctlxpd@ucl.ac.uk (Peter Bartlett) writes:

>bkt@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Barrie Trinkle) writes:

>>Today's Wall Street Journal has an editorial by Gary Becker (who
>>won the Nobel Prize in economics yesterday) touting the advantages
>>of an immigration system in which permits are auctioned.  He
>>cites Canada as an example of a country which currently sells permits,
>>"although in a partial and elitist fashion."  Does anyone know what he
>>means?  Are immigration permits available for money in Canada, and if
>>so, for how much and to whom and under what conditions?

>Presumably, he is referring to the investor categories of immigrant.
>Essentially, if you have lots of bucks you are prepared to invest
>in the country, we let you in.  (I don't have my immigration texts here;
>if memory serves, when I left the country in '89, the price was about
>$ 1/4 million.)

Yes, I should have specified that I do know about the investor categories.
If that's what Becker meant, I think it odd that he phrased it so
carelessly, since (IMO) "investing $ in Cdn business" != "forking over
bucks in exchange for immigration papers".
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