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From: a428chan@cdf.toronto.edu (Chang Gerald)
Subject: Brand New Intel 386DX-20mhz Math Co-processor
Originator: a428chan@opal.cdf.toronto.edu
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Disciplines Facility
Distribution: ont
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:58:06 GMT

			  Hardware For Sale
			  -----------------


       1    386DX-20mhz Intel MathCoprocessor
	    Brand New

	    Price:  $ 75 CANADIAN + $5.00 shipping in Ontario

       Please leave your voice number if interested.
       I am located in Toronto.

Newsgroups: ont.forsale,york.general
From: oz@ursa.sis.yorku.ca (Ozan Yigit)
Subject: interesting books for sale.
Organization: York U. Student Information Systems Project
Distribution: ont
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:07:04 GMT

I have the following books for sale. I have a good idea of their
current market value, so I have tried to set their prices consistent
with a used book store, but feel free to make a counter-offer.

oz
---
The man who does not read good books has no | electric: oz@sis.yorku.ca
advantage over the man who can't read them. | alt:    oz@nexus.yorku.ca
                              -- Mark Twain | pho:[416] 736 2100 x33976
--------------
condition: excellent - as you would find the book in, say WBB.
	   very good - as you would find the book in, say COLES. ;-)
	   good	     - as you would find the book in your own shelf
		       after two years.

hc: hardcover - sc: softcover

Author/Title/Publisher			condition		price
--------------				---------		-----
Friedman, Wand and Haynes		excellent	hc	40.00
Essentials of Programming Languages
MIT Press

Marshall Rose				excellent	hc	30.00
The Simple Book: An Introduction to
Management of TCP/IP based Internets
Prentice-Hall

Guy L. Steele Jr			excellent	sc	25.00
Common Lisp: The Language
Digital Press, *Second edition*

William Waite and Gerhard Goos		very good	hc	25.00
Compiler Construction
Springer-Verlag

William Lycan
Mind and Cognition: A Reader		excellent	sc	20.00
Blackwell

Scheifler, Gettys, Newman		excellent	sc	20.00
X Window System: C Library and
Protocol Reference
Digital Press

ACM Turing Award Lectures		very good	sc	16.00
The First Twenty Years (1966-1985)
Addison-Wesley/ACM Press

Manna and Waldinger			excellent	hc	15.00
The Logical Basis for Computer Programming
Volume1: Deductive Reasoning
Addison-Wesley

Ian A. Mason				excellent	sc	12.00
The Semantics of Destructive Lisp
CSLI Lecture Notes

Fowler's Modern English Usage		excellent	sc	10.00
Oxford Reference
Second edition

Ray Jackendoff				excellent	sc	10.00
Semantics and Cognition
MIT Press

Saul Kripke				excellent	sc	10.00
Wittgenstein
On Rules and Private Language
Harvard

Albert Einstein				good		sc	 5.00
Out of My Later Years
Citadel
-----------------

notes: I am located at York University: extension 33976
       If you would like to have more than one book, I will try
       to deliver, within North York or Downtown.
From: v067mbnd@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Gary Robb)
Newsgroups: ont.forsale
Subject: WANTED !!     CLASSIC CHEVROLET FOR RESTORATION
Date: 7 Nov 92 05:28:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


     I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR A CLASSIC CHEVROLET TO RESTORE FOR SOME
TIME NOW AND I HAVE FINALLY DECIDED TO POST HERE.  WHAT I WOULD REALLY
LIKE TO FIND IS A '67-'69 CAMARO  (ESPECIALLY A CONVERTIBLE AND
PREFERABLY A '67)  OF COURSE, THIS IS MY TOP CHOICE AND I'M LOOKING
FOR SOMETING THAT I CAN RESTORE AND KEEP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
I ALSO LIKE THINGS LIKE:  '62 IMPALA, '64-'70 CHEVELLES,
'62-'66 NOVAS (CHEVY II'S)   ALL OF WHICH WOULD BE EVEN BETTER IF
THEY WERE CONVERTIBLES.
     ALSO, I AM OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON ANY OTHER
CHEVY CLASSICS, AS I AM AN ENTHUSIAST AND I LOVE ALL CLASSICS, SO FEEL
FREE TO REPLY TO ME CONCERNING ANYTHING YOU THINK MIGHT INTEREST ME.
     I WOULD BE VERY GREATFUL TO ANYONE WHO CAN HELP ME AND REMEMBER,
I WANT SOMETHING THAT I CAN RESTORE, NOT SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY
CHERRY.  HALF THE FUN IS GETTING IT THERE.
     AGAIN, THANK YOU TO ANYONE WHO CAN HELP ME.  YOU CAN EITHER REPLY TO
ME HERE OR YOU CAN CALL ME AT (716) 645-5817  (LEAVE A MESSAGE AND I'LL
CALL YOU BACK AS SOON AS I CAN)

                                GARY ROBB      

                                V067MBND AT UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU
Newsgroups: ont.forsale,uw.forsale,kw.forsale
From: mshiels@tmsoft (Michael A. Shiels)
Subject: Re: Cardinal 9600V42 (V32, V42, V42bis) Modem For Sale
Organization: MaS Network Software and Consulting
Distribution: ont
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:02:32 GMT


On Queen streen here in Toronto you can get a good (Zoom) V.32bis/14400 fax
internal for around 340$.  Supra EXTERNAL for around 399$


-- 
---

Michael A. Shiels                           | mshiels@masnet.uucp
MaS Network Software and Consulting         | mshiels@tmsoftware.ca
Newsgroups: ont.forsale
From: janick@bcrkd13.bnr.ca (Janick Bergeron)
Subject: Re: what is allowed here?
Reply-To: janick@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Timing Verification Group
Distribution: ont
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:56:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.2174.1105@dosgate>, "steve hartwell"
<steve.hartwell@canrem.com> writes:
>  Hello All - and powers that govern:
There are no powers that govern - just a hapy-going anarchy...

>  I would like to learn what is allowed here in the way of advertising
>  anything for sale or trade.
> 
>  - Does it have to be one's own possession, or can it be commercial ?
Ovsiouly commercial ads are usually frowned upon. USENET should not
be considered as a cheap ad flyer for commercial ventures. You can post
one add but do not make it a regular feature...

>  - Can there be UUENCODED GIF's sent by Email thru here ?
If it is sent through email, why post it here ? we don't need it if
the person it was intended for already received it through another medium ?
Secondly THE LAST THING WE NEED IS ANOTHER GROUP THAT GOES GIF (sorry for
the screaming :-). GIFs are BIG and BIG newsgroups are prime candidate
for pruning. I don't want to lose ont.forsale because you want to use
it to transfer GIFs... stick to alt.binaries.pictures.

>  - Would there be sufficient interest for Email GIF's ?
Get a mailing list going. Don't do it through USENET.

Congratualtion for asking before acting... I wish we had more newsbies
like you.

--
Janick Bergeron    Bell-Northern Research, Ltd       Ph.: (613) 763-5457
System Timing   P.O. Box 3511, Station C, Stop 049   Fax: (613) 763-7241
Verification     Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, K1Y 4H7  email:  janick@bnr.ca 
library quote; use quote.funny;                  use std.disclaimer.all;
Newsgroups: ont.forsale,kw.forsale,uw.forsale,uwo.forsale
From: cbnorman@cayley.uwaterloo.ca ()
Subject: Used Computers for Sale
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:48:09 GMT

                              Christmas is Coming
                       Put a Powerful 386 Under the Tree

                                IPC i386DX/33Mhz
                                 Intel 386 chip
                              4 Megabytes of RAM
            80mb Quantum 19ms hard drive (can be Stacked to 160MB)
                        New Color VGA Monitor and Card
     Will configure with Windows, stacker, or other software as requested

               Asking Price: $1499 (plus shipping if applicable)


                  Or Put a Not-So-Powerful XT Under the Tree

                               Zenith-148 8088/8
                                  640k of RAM
                                32mb hard drive
                          Color CGA Monitor and Card
                   Will configure with software as requested
             A *Perfect* inexpensive Word Processing/Game Machine    

              Please note, this computer is located in Kingston.
               Asking Price: $450 (plus shipping if applicable)
Newsgroups: ont.forsale,queens.forsale
From: pas@jupitercmc.ca (Peter Stokes)
Subject:  HP computer for sale
Reply-To: pas@jupiter.ic.cmc.ca
Organization: Canadian Microelectronics Corporation
Distribution: can
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:13:31 GMT

For Sale:  HP 86A Computer with expanded
	   memory, disk drives, monitor,
	   software, HP printer (Epson 
	   compatible), all documentation.
	   All for $200 or best offer.

Email:  pas@jupiter.ic.cmc.ca
Daytime phone:  (613) 545-2923
Evening phone:  (613) 389-1087

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Peter A. Stokes ~~~~~~~~ pas@jupiter.ic.cmc.ca ~~~~~~~ (613) 545-2923 ~~~~~
Canadian Microelectronics Corporation ~~~~~~~~~~~ Kingston, Ontario, Canada
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: ont.forsale
From: calvert@QueensU.CA (John Calvert)
Subject: For sale: 286-AT 1Mb RAM 1.44Mb 40Mb CGA
Organization: Queen's University, Kingston, Canada
Distribution: ont
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:44:11 GMT


A newish 286-12MHz system with 
- 1MB RAM, 
- CGA colour monitor and card (640*200 resolution), 
- standard keyboard,
- standard AT I/O card (two serial, one parallel), 
- 1440K HD 3.5" floppy,
- 40MB hard disk. 

It's very quiet and reliable. Very recent Chips & Technologies BIOS 
(this is a very versatile BIOS).  Normal sized desktop case. Western 
Digital IDE Hard Disk (60MS - this is not a fast drive, but it's fine
for word processing and telecommunications).

Price: $425, firm

Also for sale, 720K DD 3.5" floppy, $25, obo.

Reason for sale: Bought this system because our current system didn't
		belong to us and we were afraid the owner would take it
		away. Since then they gave us the system. Was used for
		several months, no problems. Comes formatted to DOS 5.0.
		This price is exactly what we paid for it, including a
		new 1440K HD 3.5" floppy drive.

		Will offer a limited time money back guarentee.

Contact: Kingston Environmental Action Project
	99 York St.
	Kingston, Ont.
	K7K 1P9
	(613) 546-3690

	or email me.

John Calvert
calvert@mast.queensu.ca
From: belkin@teecs.UUCP (Hershel Belkin)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:03:15 GMT
Subject: Hewlett-Packard stuff for sale
Organization: Litton Systems, Toronto ONT
Newsgroups: ont.forsale

For sale:

	HP9121D 3.5" disc drive, HP-IB interface (single sided,
	double drive) -- only good on older Hewlett-Packard systems
	and some HP test equipment.  Perfect condition.  asking $45.

	HP 7475A 6-pen A/B plotter, HP-IB interface.  Perfect
	condition; only works with HP systems, or PC's equipped
	with an IEEE (GP-IB) interface card.  Asking $900.

	HP9122D 3.5" disc drive, HP-IB interface (double-sided,
	double drive) -- only good with Hewlett-Packard systems.
	Perfect condition. Asking $100.

Please leave message at 784-9906 if interested.  Must sell. Thanks.

--
Hershel Belkin
(416) 784-9906 (message machine only, so please leave message!!)

Newsgroups: ont.forsale
From: David Mason <vid@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: SCO Unix for sale
Reply-To: David Mason <vid@zooid.guild.org>
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Distribution: ont
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:27:26 GMT


The organization I work for has SCO Unix 3.2.2 two-user for sale. This doesn't
come with the development system, just the runtime system, utilities, and
manuals for a maximum of two users at once. It's not the latest version, but
it is upgradeable to a newer SCO or even to another UNIX using a competitive
upgrade program.  

If you are interested please leave me email or phone me at 416-925-4850 ext.
1351.

-- 
vid@zooid.guild.org             -->> ZOOiD Public Access Usenet 416 322-7876
Newsgroups: ont.forsale
From: "jeanguy cote" <jeanguy.cote@canrem.com>
Subject: for sale: 286-at 1mb ram
Reply-To: "jeanguy cote" <jeanguy.cote@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: ont
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:27:50 EST

I am interested in the 720K drive for $25.00 ($3.00 shipping?)
I called you and there was no answer.
Please call me at 416-778-9145 and let me know if I can get it
I will give you mailing addrsss and arrange for payment.

Or... leave a message here...
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
Newsgroups: ont.forsale
From: rjkoop@sebastian.carleton.ca (rjkoop)
Subject: House for sale (Arnprior near Ottawa).
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: ont
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 02:43:44 GMT

This is a posting for my parent's-in-law.  If you have any questions
call Heather at the number mentioned below or ask me via E-mail.
Thanks.
 
=======================================================================
For sale, beautiful 2 year old custom built bungalow.  Features :
    1490 sq. ft
    62x100 ft. lot
    Main floor family room
    Fully fenced yard
    Central air
    Central vacuum
    Double car garage
    Quiet street in new subdivision
    All city services
    Gas heated
    19x11 deck at rear
 
Asking $165,900
 
Call Heather Blackburn in Arnprior at :
    1-(613) 623-9678 (residence)
    1-(613) 623-3939 (business)
From: dryan@sgi1 (Dan Ryan)
Newsgroups: ont.forsale
Subject: For Sale: Tron Video Arcade Game
Date: 7 Nov 1992 17:09:35 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics & Statistics, Univ. of Guelph
NNTP-Posting-Host: sgi1.mathstat.uoguelph.ca
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

My friend has a TRON Video Arcade Game, in good working order for sale.
He is asking $300 for it.  
The machine is located in Guelph, Ontario.

If you are interested, contact me by e-mail (MTHRYAN@VM.UOGUELPH.CA)
and I will pass on the message.

Dan Ryan

Newsgroups: ont.forsale
From: Kevin Hood <kevin@biomed.queensu.ca>
Subject: Wanted: inexpensive PC-XT or AT notebook.
Organization: Queen's University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:02:06 GMT

I am looking for a low-cost notebook computer with a couple of hours of
battery use between recharges.  Computing power is not too important
since it will be used for simple tasks during frequent trips back and
forth on the Wolfe Island to Kingston ferry.  I am willing to spend up to
about $1000 depending on the machine.

Kevin
From: belkin@teecs.UUCP (Hershel Belkin)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:53:53 GMT
Subject: Computer collectors? LOOK!!
Organization: Litton Systems, Toronto ONT
Newsgroups: ont.forsale

Computer buffs/collectors:

I have a number of "ancient" computer-related collector items
for sale.  I am moving out of town in 1 week, so these must be 
sold by Nov. 12....

	IMSAI S-100 computer (yup, the one with the nice blue
                    cabinet, and lots of lights and switches!!)
                    includes: Z80 processor, 40K Static RAM,
                    North Star 5.25" floppy (90K!), multi-port
                    I/O card, etc. + misc. discs and all manuals!

	OMNITEC 300 baud accoustic coupler!!  Working, albeit only
 		    with an old-style (dial) phone receiver!!

	Lots of old Micro-computer magazines, including full-year
	sets and almost-full year sets of Byte, Kilobaud, etc...
	(some from 1st issue! -- fascinating reading...1st ads for
	Apple computer kits, etc.

Call 784-9906 to make an offer -- leave your number, what you're
interested in, and what you want to pay.  Anyone setting up a
private computer museum? :-)
---
Hershel Belkin
416 784-9906 (message machine only, so leave a message!!)

Newsgroups: ont.forsale
From: scholz@watsci.UWaterloo.ca (Guenter A. Scholz)
Subject: Quad ESL's WANTED
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:13:23 GMT

	Would like to buy a pair of the old style Quad ESL's in GOOD condition.
Ideally they should be black and no older than about 10 years or so.

					guenter
From: clarken@Mitel.COM (Norman Clarke)
Newsgroups: ont.forsale
Subject: House for sale (in Carleton Place)
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:45:47 GMT
Distribution: ont
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.


I'm posting this for someone else - if you are interested, please contact them
by FAX, (613) 257-8837 - don't e-mail me please.


	PRIVATE SALE OF LARGE, EMPTY NEST:
	---------------------------------

General:

o  4500 square feet of living space on a 1 acre lot
o  nicest street in town!
o  constructed of brick - only 19 years old (built for current owner!)
o  new roof this year
o  20 minutes from Kanata
o  40 minutes from downtown Ottawa
o  lots of fitness/sporting/hobby activities

Downstairs:

o  attractive front entrance
o  centre foyer
o  living room
o  dining room
o  den with fireplace
o  family room with fireplace
o  eat-in kitchen
o  powder room (2-piece bathroom)
o  laundry room
o  hall to entrance into double garage

Upstairs:

o  large master bedroom with ensuite dressing room and bath
o  FOUR more bedrooms! (smallest one is 9'10" x 10'5")
o  closets...closets...and more closests!
o  4 piece central bathroom

Finished Basement:

o  rec room is 18' x 31'
o  wine storage area
o  sauna with shower and sitting room
o  storage room
o  large workshop

Outside:

o  mature trees, flowering shrubs, gateposts and paved driveway
o  house set well back off street (very private)
o  backyard entrace from patio door of family room onto a patio
o  behind the garage is a 20' x 14' screened-in cabana that faces
   a gunite (cement) pool

Notes:

o  to obtain more information or an appointment to view, FAX 613-257-8837
o  price is $289,500
From: bweiss@cs.arizona.edu (Beth Weiss)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: How Long in Bassinet?  was(Re: big = good?)
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:25:08 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

> clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu) writes:
>  What I'm wondering is how many
>  months can a newborn baby sleep in a bassinet.

I asked a similar question about 5-6 months ago.  I saved all the
replies I received, and forwarded them all to Clare.  So, if you
answered me way-back-when, then you can consider yourself having
answered Clare as well.


--
--Beth Weiss
bweiss@cs.arizona.edu
From: biddleco@mizar.usc.edu (Susan Biddlecomb)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: 20/20 and Spanking
Date: 5 Nov 1992 12:16:35 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <5NOV199212085653@eldyn.gsfc.nasa.gov> goldberg@eldyn.gsfc.nasa.gov (Patti Twigg) writes:

(lots deleted)
>
>Well, life is not always as simple as that. My son is 4, and has not yet
>outgrown his contrary phase. He also has some developmental delays.
>But, he knew how to use the potty. In fact, he was using it at daycare.
>He was just not willing to do it for me. Or his dad. Now, I did not
>abuse him, but the frustration got to the point where it could have
>happened. So, when I say I can understand why potty training is the
>leading cause of child abuse in this country, that is where I am coming
>from. Tell me, are you willing to change diapers until a child is 5?
>Would that frustrate you at all? 
>                               Patti Twigg

Yes! We've been toilet training Angelica for a year. She knows damned
well what to do -- she'll do it fine at her grandmother's house,
at the neigbor's house, even spending the weekend at her aunt's house.
But at home she will defiantly squat on the floor and urinate (she's even
done it right outside the (open) bathroom door. She'll also do this when 
playing outdoors with her friends. And at daycare she would do the same
(we ended up working things out so we could keep her at home, because
due to this problem she was retained in the toddler class with all of the
rest of the kids being non-verbal and she was clearly bored there).

We've decided it's obviously a defiance thing and not a toilet training
thing and we've begun to exercise punishment in the same way we do for
unlocking the door and running outside at night or climbing up on the
bookcase or anything else she knows not to do. Will it work? We'll see.

Just to put everything in perspective, a friend of mine keeps telling me
how her son defecated in his pants up to age 10 (yech). He just didn't
see any reason not to. It finally became socially unacceptable and he
stopped. He's 13 now, and exercises his rebellion in other ways (he just
got expelled from school because he took a rap for the drug dealing kids
so he could be part of the "cool" crowd. Called his mom up and said
"I just got expelled, isn't that cool?". I can hardly wait 'til Angelica
becomes a teenager.)

Susan
From: vicki@mathcs.emory.edu (Vicki Powers)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: tape recorder for a 2.5 year old
Date: 10 Nov 1992 12:50:35 -0500
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS
NNTP-Posting-Host: emory.mathcs.emory.edu

My daughter loves music and loves pushing buttons on gadgets, so we are
thinking about getting her one of those tape players/recorders made just
for kids as a Christmas present.  Sony makes one, so does Fischer Price, and 
I've also seen brands I've never heard of.  Anyway, I was wondering if anyone 
has advice on which types are good, etc.  Ann will be 2.5 at Christmas, 
and all of the ones I've seen say for 3 and older, but I think she can handle 
it - she already knows how to use the VCR!

This brings up another question - does anybody have good tapes that they
would especially recommend.  The only restriction is that my husband has
declared our house a Raffi-free zone!!!

Thanks a bunch!

   Vicki

P.S.  Should I post a summary?
-- 
Vicki  Powers       |  When a student reads in a math book that there are no
Emory University    |  absolutes, suddenly every value he's been taught is
Dept of Math and CS |  destroyed.  And the next thing you know, the student
Atlanta, GA 30322   |  turns to crime and drugs. - Mel Gabler
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: cma@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (christine.m.dakes)
Subject: Re: Diapers and the Environment (Was Re: Diaper Services)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:07:37 GMT
Summary: more fuel


Hmmm....not to add fuel to the fire, but....
I read that disposable diapers account for less than 2% of landfill
waste, and that real diapers are not any better for the environment
since they waste so much water and resources to wash/clean, etc.
Don't flame me, it's just something I read recently. 

Christine
first-time-mom-2-b 1/19/93
From: riggle@adobe.com (Kathleen Riggle)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Mail order company packaging (was Re: Brio Compatible Thomas trains)
Date: 13 Nov 92 19:27:39 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <1992Nov13.001252.24335@cbfsb.cb.att.com> gbk@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (g.b.karlovsky) writes:
>In article <1689D9E5E.LISAS@pucc.Princeton.EDU> LISAS@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Lisa S Lewis) writes:
>>A while back people were looking for Brio compatible Thomas trains.  I
>>noticed that these are available through one of the catalogues I receive.
>>It's called Troll Learn and Play, and their number is 1-800-247-6106.
>>>
>>I have ordered from them in the past, and they seem to be a pretty good
>>company.
>>Lisa
>
>Boy did I have to comment on this...  I had a terrible experience with this
>mail-order company.

[mess-up in the order deleted]

>I DID get all shipping/handling/wrapping and FedEx charges reimbursed, but I
>will never order from them again.  There are many places out there that sell
>the same stuff.

We recently ordered from this company also.  We didn't have a problem
with the order (but then it wasn't ordered as a gift to go someplace
else), but I do have a comment on their packaging.  That day I
also received 3 other packages.  All four packages were in cardboard
boxes.  The other three packages, however, were packed in newsprint
and cardboard inside to protect the merchandise.  The Troll Learn and
Play package was packed in styrofoam peanuts.  They also included a
bunch of junk inserts.  That irked me for some reason.  

We try to recycle everything we can.  I also save boxes to use for
mailing packages later, but styrofoam peanuts get under my skin.
These weren't even the reused kind as far as I could tell.  They
looked nice and new.  I plan to write them a letter, suggesting they
change their packing ways, especially for non-fragile items.  I
suppose I should also write a letter to the other companies,
complimenting them on thier packaging.

I keep the mail order FAQ.  I'm thinking of adding an entry on whether
companies package friendly, if their catalogs are recyclable, and if
they send you 50 catalogs every 30 days or so.  Would people be
interested in that kind of information?

Kathie



-- 
riggle@adobe.com