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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 08:33:19 -0500
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Yay for Warner Cable!
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I'm excited...just found out that Warner Cable is adding AMC to its basic
package...every good movie I see listed in the TV guide seems to be on
that channel.  Too, they've finally seen the light and given A&E its own
channel...now I can see The Avengers!
ndh
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 03:33:07 +0200
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject:      Re: List Wars, The Saga
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	Dear, sweet Jenna,

	I'll post what I bloody well like and suffer your reproaches if I
	must.  There *is* a place for rudeness in the world.  I pick my
	own spots.

Your face must be a *mess*...

G
PS Don't tempt her... she may take you up on it.
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From: ak743@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Doretta Hanschka)
Subject: Re: Adam, List Honey
Reply-To: ak743@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Doretta Hanschka)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 19:56:34 GMT


In a previous article, AHARTFIE@DREW.DREW.EDU (Adam Hartfield) says:

>have a poster of Bob where I work, then alt.fan.the-hartfie is a
>possibility, I suppose.
Even if the .hartfie can't see his own alt. group.:-(

>are making me feel wanted at a time when Drew is making me feel very
>unwanted, and I can't thank all of you enough for that.  I don't know
>what I've ever done to deserve such treatment--I'm just me--but thank
>you.  All of thoses msgs are going into a special folder which will
>be printed and downloaded before I go.
You'll have to bring it along to dinner at Chez Hanschka some night.  
Springfield and Bloomfield/Hartford are only about a half hour apart.

>I did manage to wangle a modem today (the dir. of our computer shop
>is *lending* me one!) so, assuming I can tell my father just what he
>can do with his phone bills, I'll be reachable.   My home address and
>phone # are in my .plan.
Another good reason for coming here - I can download a bunch of BBS numbers,
and find some Sprinfield-local stuff with netmail.  Fido gateways are a royal
pain, but they do work <most of the time>.

>who, after having ridden the emotional rollercoaster for far too long
>today, is going to bed.
_Sweet Dreams_, Adam.:-)

-- 
Nethead, aka the Ruth Hanschka, hath enscribed herein, a message
	ap290 and ak743 , both of the Cleveland Freenet
			Here Be Dragons
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:17:36 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: rapture schedule
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              All fellow wordslers <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>

On Mon, 17 Aug 92 15:13:57 EDT you said:
>>as they say, forewarned is forearmed
>
>I didn't know Vishnu was involved in it.
>>

I don't think Vishnu is, but Tushar is probably lurking somewhere.....

the warning also tells us about being wary of the 666 and many other
interesting tidbits.....

dan
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 17:16:32 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Westerns
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              15 Aug 1992 16:43:10 EDT from
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be sure to see High Plains Drifter.   don't be put off because it is
Clint Eastwood.  and mymind is blanking on classics at the moment,
except for Stagecoach.

And True Grit....

dan  (where the video stores have sections for westerns....don't they
           everywhere?  bookstores and public libraries do, and they're
           a farily standard genre, i thought)
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 08:59:29 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: List wars

>The first choice, as in "Don't pay any attention to Michael."

You always give such good advice.

-Mka
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:13:47 EDT
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Unsubbing from the list

On Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:06:29 EDT Karen Kay said:
>Adam is getting such great tributes, I'm thinking about unsubbing
>from the list just for the attention!
>
>P.S. Adam--the only thing stopping me is that people wouldn't say
>as nice things for me!:)))

     I don't know about that, Karen.  You are the List Angel, after all.
                   --brad
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: Geek vs Nerd
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 19:13:08 GMT
Organization: Karsten's Bit Bucket
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"Don Moore writes:
> Is a geek the same as a nerd?

My peers have tended to use geek to refer to lifeless/socially
inept people and nerd to refer to geeky science and engineering types.

The playground definition of nerd seems to be identical to that of geek.

--karsten

...who sometimes claims he is no longer a geek or a hacker but realizes
he always will be both...
From: gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK (Graham Toal)
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Subject: Re: 0/1
Date: 21 Aug 92 05:44:32 GMT
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On Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:30:27 CDT, "List Goddess" <maynor@ra.msstate.edu> wrote:
> P.S.  I just remembered the point of this note.  As wonderful as Ra may
> be, it is rudely impersonal.  It spits mis-addressed mail back into
> cyberspace without a second thought.

Most systems spit it back *and* send a copy to the postmaster.  A certain
listmember and I gave the kids at Eindhoven lots of amusement this summer...

G
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 05:58:40 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: 48 Hours Looks at Elvis
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>  Don't
> forget, *if* next year's Event is a goat roast in Starkville, the
> Tupelo birthplace shrine is only an hour-and-a-half away;

It's not that far!  Since I never go to Tupelo, I'm not sure of exactly
how far it is, but I know it's less than 1 1/2 hours away.

> Memphis
> and Graceland maybe 2 1/2 hrs.

More like 3 hrs.  Although the distance isn't great, there's no good
route.

>  Most of you, probably, would be flying
> into Memphis International anyway...

Hmmm.  That would present a problem in getting the rest of the way.
Bernardykins and I will meet planes at GTR (between here and Columbus)
and maybe even one or two flights to Jackson (2 hrs from here), but I'm
not sure we could make any promises about Memphis.  Birmingham, btw,
is about the same distance from here as Memphis.  Hey -- I just remembered
the last time I was in Tupelo.  The itty, bitty airplane from Memphis to
here on my return from Seattle stopped in Tupelo.  It then did one quick
hop over a cotton field and landed here.  So you can even fly to Elvis's
home town.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU (Natalie Maynor)
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Subject: RE: Gender
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:39:10 GMT
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Welcome back, Frank Mc!  How was NY?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 05:40:26 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cellular Phones
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> >Btw, my failure to catch your pun on "prescriptive" yesterday was called
> >to my attention by another list member later.
>
> If it's any consolation, I didn't catch it until just now either.
> In fact it took me a minute trying to think what I'd said before I
> got it.

I feel better!  But I had been thinking how nice you were not to have
called attention to my slowness of wit to the whole list.  Now I'll have
to drop that additional piece of evidence of your kindness from the long
list of evidence.  That's ok, though.  There are plenty of pieces to spare.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:25:43 PDT
From:         s mandell <pwiebe@ECST.CSUCHICO.EDU>
Subject:      Taking Names and Kicking Butts
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Natalie, you don't pay much attention sometimes!
I'm in Amsterdam.
If I'm lucky, I'm going to have Judith for a guest on Saturday,
but I don't wanna jinx it, so you didn't hear me say that.

S
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 05:17:11 MED
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject: Re: WHTMIQR13
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	Oh jesus you really missed it.  Tough.  It was very <dense> but
	intellectually stimulating.  You killed my baby!!!!!
	--ggs

Yep, I really missed it.  The last time I saw such a long article of
solid text was that woman from preparation-h telling us how to
communicate better...

G
(PS Stick some blank lines in at suitable points & post it again? - I read
most of the other ones...)
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:25:33 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: off to the Snake
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>      Carol (wishing she could stay and argue with Mka, who makes
>      occasional glimmers of sense, when he's not being inhospitable to
>      Native Americans...)

I feel abandoned!  Are you gonna make me hold the banner of truth all by
myself??  And I'm getting out of argumentative mode now.  We may have to
put the sexism discussion on hold until your return.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 11:53:57 CDT
From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      RE: TshirtII, Cubbies, zero
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>How's about
>
>       I Am The Mighty Words-l!
>
>        Read My Posts, Mortals,
>
>        and DESPAIR!

How's about:

Words-L
Learn it, Live it, Love it

Words-L
Where the Weak are Killed and Eaten

Words-L: If you have to ask...

Member Words-L All-Amazon Assault Force

Words-L: All Heat, No Light


I have a lot more if you are interested...
-abh
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Music Junkie
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>Come Saturday I'll be going off-net.  I can't afford Drew any longer,
>so I'm taking a semester/possibly a year off to earn some money so I
>can come back and get my degree.  I'm going to buy a modem today so
>that I can call in from home (yeesh..that's 3 states away), so if
>anyone wants to send me mail at ahartfie@drunivac.drew.edu or
>ahartfie@drunivac.bitnet, you're more than welcome to do so.  I'm

	No, no, no!!  Say it ain't so, Adam.  You'll be sorely missed.  Be sure
	to send lots of messages in the next few days, so that some will get
	lost in the network and we'll have your echoes for months.

	I suggest that Natalie should devote a portion of her PCH winnings to
	keeping you on the list somehow.

>going to be setting nomail on Saturday, and believe me, I'm going to
>miss this virtual family very much.  Y'all have been a part of my
>life for the past year and a half, and it's going to be very
>difficult to adjust to life without Words-L.

	Do stop by every once in a while -- just a short message to let us know
	you're still among the living.  And check with Ruth to see how she's
	re-emerged here...Cleveland Freenet or Bust!!

neal
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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1992 15:53:24 GMT
From:         stephanie mandell <steph@UTOPIA.HACKTIC.NL>
Subject:      latin
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Karen -- No.

 ---
steph@utopia.hacktic.nl (stephanie mandell)
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:25:01 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Neat
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One of our new TAs is claiming that our lab "wiped out his syllabus."
He brought it on a disk from home and is claiming that the lab just
gobbled it up.  Kazammmmmm.  Novell network doesn't like new TA's attitude
and decides to zap his file.  I'm sure that *he* did nothing wrong.  The
lab just ate it out of perversity.  I'm glad I'm at home right now instead
of on campus.  And I'm glad I'm not in charge of our lab anymore.  The
person in charge of the lab just sent me e-mail asking if it was possible
for the lab to wipe out somebody's file -- of its own volition -- unrelated
to anything he might have done.  :-)

Pooooofffffff.  Novell eats file.  Gone, gone, gone...  Sooooo sorry.....
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:42:23 CDT
From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      RE: gonadological oppression
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>ideologues to justify their <fear><hate><outrage><you-name-it> relative
...
>thus caught in your own logical trap.   The whole concept is inane

Spoeaking of logical traps, isn't this called "begging the question?" It
 attempts
(unsuccessfully) to equate feminists with nazis, et.al.

-abh
letting out the bated breath now, it sounds like a Bronx Cheer aimed in gubert's
general direction
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:14:25 EDT
Reply-To:     Graham Toal <gtoal@ed.ac.uk>
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      SCA
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This was in today's private eye...

''The hack who has led the campaign to prove the existence of 'satanic
abuse' of children has become a cropper.

Tim Tate, who make the Cook Report's scaremongering TV programme
'Devil's Work' and later became a regular lecturer at satanic abuse
seminars, has been forced to withdraw his book Children for the Devil,
admitting that its allegations were 'utterly without foundation'.

When the book was published, Tate claimed that he had 'proved' the
existence of widespread ritual abuse (see Private Eye #772).  The
book included a fierce attack on Det Supt Peter Coles, the policeman
in charge of investigating a case of alleged 'satanic abuse' in
Nottinghamshire.  Cole's offence, it seems, was that he found no
evidence to support the absurd claims made by Tate.  Tate accused
him of 'obstructing' the investigation and putting children at risk.

But when Coles began a libel suit against Tate, the author immediately
capitulated, admitting that his account of the Nottingham case was
riddled with falsehoods, and 'should never have been published'.
The book has now been pulped.''

Graham
PS Partly the reason for the current resurgence in interest in SCA
(and child abuse, and - believe it or not - UFO abductions) is that
there is a school of psychiatry - dare I say a cabal - in the US which
is pushing some notion of bringing 'forgotten experiences' from
childhood to the surface in adult life.  There is a strong case that
many of these forgotton experiences were actually suggested by the
psychiatrists rather than being real memories.  Of course, the people
going to psychiatrists are troubled people to begin with, looking for
an explanation of their neuroses, and happy to latch on to what is
offered.
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 07:15:57 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      RE: On Gender and Such
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> The only thing that got my hackles up was the suggestion that the
> source of the "discrimination" in the generic usage of he/him is
> "the language," when the "source" is really a wilful misreading
> of instances where "man" *is* non-gender specific--a
> "discovery", as it were, of a possible reading, not necessarily a
> misreading.  But the mistake is to privilege that reading as
> somehow objectively "out there."

I think you erroneously inferred the part about being "somehow objectively
'out there.'"  If Bernard buries a bone in the backyard, the bone is
embedded in the yard.  The yard didn't produce it, yet that's where it
is.  And its presence perhaps affects the gardener who is digging around
in the area.  Sorry about this stupid analogy.  My brain rot is
accelerating.

> same time I take your word for it that this thread has gone over
> some very old ground.

There's nothing wrong with old ground, particularly since the readership
of the list is constantly changing -- or at least some of the readership.

> Still, no one has given me a good reason why the usage of person
> to include blacks is any less or any differently ironic than the
> usage of he/him for all people, given the historical realities.

I tried.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ADBAM and baby update
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>Diffily baby boy arrived via Caesarian at 7:45 this morning.

>Both are reported to be in good condition.

	Six cheers!!  (three each for Anne and Baby Boy Diffily).

	When do we get the vital statistics report on length, weight, name?

neal
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:20:37 EDT
From:         Frank <ST403231@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Big eyes
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>From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
>[quoting Elaine]
>>oh, no, Frank ... not the <big eyes>!  how come some of the rest
>>of us haven't been treated to the <big eyes> ??
>
>Yeah, Frank, just 20 minutes alone with the <big eyes> is all I ask to make my
> life
>complete.
>
Awww, gee, yer Ferality, you aughtta told me back when you were in
Providence.  Lordy, if *that's* all it takes...

As for you, Elaine, you are within walking distance and can come on
over and get your dose of <any kind of eyes you want> on virtually
any day of the week.  Not that you'll be needing *mine* in the forsee-
able future  ;-)

And don't look to the .gif for consolation.  That photo makes me look
like a raccoon in a hooded sweatshirt.  Shadows, you know.  (Why do I
have the sudden urge to go wash my hands and rummage around in suburban
garbage?)

<Saucers. Blue>
Frank
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 07:41:00 PST
From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: Not an Apology

Rita, if you can find any post in which I mentioned the word censorship or even
suggested that what was going on was censorship, I will say no more on this
topic.

What Jill and others are suggesting is that we should not offend and if we
happen to be doing something that offends someone on the list, we should
change that behavior.  I said that is bunk.  I absolutely refuse to cater
to everyone's emotional responses to what they consider offensive.

>       Really, Chris, I don't know what you are going on about with
>the Censorship trash, but it is obvious you don't know what the word
>really means and you're just trying to push buttons with it.  I don't
>see why Jill or Carol has any less right to air their viewpoints than
>anyone else on this list.

Again, I never mentioned the word Censorship.  It seems as though you are the
one trying to push emotional buttons here.  Quit putting words in my mouth.  If
that's the only way you can discuss your viewpoint, I don't see as if you have
much to say.  If you can't argue your point without making things up, you
probably don't have much of a point to make.

Now, given that, I'm still curious about what I've said that you disagree with.

Basically, I've been making two points over and over again.  Most people have
got it.  I'll try to slow down for the rest of the class.  Here are the points:

1) Jill suggested that we need to watch what we say so we don't offend, in
essence, suggesting there are certain things that should not be discussed on
this list.  I said that is bunk.

2) Don was treated in a highly contemptible manner.  Terms like sexual
harassment, sick, and some other stuff were brought up in reference to Don's
posts.  From other things Don has said, he is proud of being Dawn's father and
is proud of the way she turned out, physically, mentally, and spiritually.  A
group of people tried to destroy that pride by telling him he was a pervert,
thereby telling him he was not, after all, a good father.

Which of these points do you disagree with?  Are there things we should not
discuss on this list?  Do you think Don was treated fairly?

Please, do let us all know.

Chris
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:24:00 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK%IUBACS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Weird stuff

>    #10         18-AUG-1992 13:09:43.85                                  NEWMAI
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>To:     "MICHAEL K. AUSBROOK" <AUSBROOK@ucs.indiana.edu>
>CC:
>Subj:   Output of your job "AUSBROOK"
>
>> >>The only thing that got my hackles up was the suggestion that the
>Unknown command - ">>THE". Try HELP.
>
>All subsequent commands have been flushed.
>
>Summary of resource utilization
>-------------------------------
> CPU time:        0.002 sec                Device I/O:     2
> Overhead CPU:    0.002 sec                Paging I/O:     5
> CPU model:        9021                    DASD model:  3380
>

Just got this back from the Listerver--any of you net jockeys--
including pigs--know what happened?

-Mka
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:03:18 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Why I Couldn't Find the RAM !
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> talk about mgs, megs, mb's, m's.  I also know almost nothing about that
> strange, foreign system that produces such terms, even though I firmly
> believe that the U.S. should adopt it in everything.

Did you mean the metric system?  I hate to break it to you, Natalie,
but mg is a common abbreviation in this country.  (Look at anything
w/ food breakdowns on it--with the new labeling laws, that means
almost everything!!!)

Karen
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