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Subject: UUPC vs Kermit
Date: 12 Dec 92 21:21:29 GMT
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.>   From: Will Hartung - Master Rallyeist <villy@uunet.UU.NET>
.>   Subject: UUPC vs Kermit

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.>   We've got a client that has a PC connected to a Pick system. We need
.>   to move data from the Pick system to an SCO box daily. The PC is
.>   running a program called "Harmony" (something like that).
                               ^^^^^^^

                     That's PKHarmony a DOS based Pick 
connectivity product.                  

.>   I'd love to get this process as automated as possible. What I'd like
.>   to know is whether UUPC would be a better choice over Kermit for
.>   transfering the file.

.>   The logic is that UUPC would "try" a little harder to get the file
.>   through to the UNIX system than Kermit. Has anyone done any automated
.>   movement of files from the PC to SCO, with the PC originating the
.>   transfer?

        I had a simular problem and this was my solution for 
moving a 2.0 GB!! (yes GIGABYTE!!!) file across. 

        They have a full time programming staff so they wrote a 
piece of code that would basicly send the info out a terminal 
port. So that if you logged into the pick system and ran this 
process you would see the information displyed on your terminal. 
The solution was to log onto the pick system via modem or in this 
case a direct serial link running at 19200. Turn the capture 
feature of the Communications program on and viola instant file 
transfer. Mind you I started this process over a weekago it it 
still isn't done. Gee, with the advent of 1.1GB 3.5 drives i 
forgot how much info 2.0GB is...

.>   If I had my way, I'd have an Ethernet Card in the PC and just network
.>   the silly things, but that's not an option. (This is the kind of
.>   company that will use a modem to call the office next door rather than
.>   wire them together...machines tend to move around a lot...)

        On this system they wanted to be networked and pick 
systems don't network other than with serial connections. So we 
added terminal servers to the back of the Pick boxes (2 of them), 
Gave the terminal servers internet addresses and hooked them up 
to ethernet and presto networked pick boxes. Now any user can set 
at his/her teminal and since the terminals are also connected to 
terminal servers, they can log in to any of 8 Unix boxes, or any 
of 2 pick boxes and get multiple sessions, (feture of terminal 
servers). They also have a remote local bridge connectting two 
offices in different cities. So both offices share systems and 
one terminal can login to anything, anywhere.

.>   Of course, if anyone knows of a more direct route from Pick to UNIX,
.>   I'd be overjoyed. I don't have any hardware information on the Pick
.>   system, but I'd love to hear options anyways (Heck, don't people write
.>   comm protocols for Pick???)

                Well, I told you what I know about pick, (well 
not everything) I don't know of any protocols written for pick, 
them again I am not to clear on Pick's file structure and if one 
can go in and read a file. From my understanding of pick it's one 
huge database not a system of separate files such as Unix or DOS.
If you find anything on comm. protocols for Pick e-mail me or 
post it to this group. Good Luck..

.>   Thanx!
.>   Will
.>   (uunet!la4gen!villy)

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