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From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: Re: NetWare InPlace Upgrade Utility 1.0
Organization: Cleveland State University
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 15:37:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec24.113714.23277@news.csuohio.edu> cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe  
Rosenfeld) writes:
> I have read an article in _PC Week_ (Dec. 21, p.41, col. 1) which
> discusses a new product from Novell, known as NetWare InPlace Upgrade
> Utility, which is supposed to make it possible to convert a "2.x server
> into a 3.x server."  It does not affect files, and transfers bindery files
> from 2.x to 3.x format.  The article also mentions the general displeasure
> in thge weakness of the previously existing NetWare Upgrade tools, which
> required things like a DAT.  It is a pain.  I would rather backup to my
> DAT, wipe the NetWare 2.x file server clean and rebuild.  My experience
> with changing Unix and NeXTStep OSs has shown that a clean wipe is always
> preferable, when you consider performance as the key ingredient.
> 
> So I hope Novell has done much better now.
> 
> I also performed an Archie search, but not surprisingly, found nada.  Too
> bad, my timing might simply be a little too early for an Archie listing.
> 
> The article mentions that the new utility is available "free on
> NetWare and NetExpress.  Is there an internet spot for this utility yet?
> Twould make a fine Christmas and Hanukah present,wouldn't it?
> 
> Regards and Happy Holidays!
> Joe
> 

Please note that I got an answer already.  the two files are on risc.ua.edu and novell.com in  
the 01 and 06 directories.  The filenames are migrat.zip and migman.zip.  both are obviously  
beta releases--BETA is stamped all over the postscript files that came in migman (Migrate  
Manual?).  I am going to try it, asI would be upgrading anyway and I will be making my final  
backup soon anyway.

thanks for the response.

Everyone have a Happy Holiday!
Joe

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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:25:00 CST
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From:         Frank Boimare <SC0HASS@VM.TCS.TULANE.EDU>
Subject:      Patches

I am contemplating installing the patches to NW 3.11 on my system and have
been following the thread on whether or not to install all of the patches.
I do not remember a clear answer on the following question, so I will ask
it (hopefully, for the first time  B-> ):

If you have never installed any of the patches (my files date back to mid-
February, 1991; I have installed PSERVER.NLM 1.22 dated 7/10/92), is it
sufficient to install the most recent patch (311PTB.ZIP?), or do I need to
go back and install all of the patches (or some particular combo of the
patches between 2-91 and 311PTB.ZIP)?

Hope this isn't an FAQ and thanks in advance.

Frank Boimare
sc0hass@vm.tcs.tulane.edu
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 13:27:08 EST
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From:         Alan Wild <AWILD@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      ??? Server Tape Drive ???

Anyone know if the tape drive in my PS/2 server can be used to automatically
backup the machine. It's a 2.3GB tape drive. Is there a driver/NLM/? available?

Alan

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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:58:00 LCL
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From:         Dave Kearns <DKEARNS.TCC@KLAVEN.TCI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Multiprotocol Router Question

KS>         I've got version 2.0 of the Multiprotocol Router software.  In
KS> version 1.0 there was a NLM called LIPX.NLM which is not located in
KS> version 2.0 of the software kit.   The LIPX.NLM would allow for a
KS> larger than 512 byte packet size to be negotiated between the server
KS> and the workstation even if a router was in between them.  Has this
KS> been omitted from the version 2.0 software?  Has it been renamed to
KS> something else?  I can't seem to find anything in the manuals or on the
KS> diskettes about this
KS> interesting NLM.   Any help would be appreciated, even Novell
KS> aftermarket support phone numbers would be help.

LIPX has been 'subsumed' into the new version of PBURST.NLM, available as
part of the new Novell security package. It's in the file
~\NOVFILES\SECSYS.EXE available from FTP.NOVELL.COM.

-dave

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From:         "KHALED ASSALI - KASSALI@ZIS.ZIFF.COM" <KASSALI@ZIS.ZIFF.COM>
Subject:      Server Console hanging, but server is OK???

Hi netters

The console on our server just forze after typing unload pserver.
The server seems to be fine except for the printers hanging of
the PSERVER.  Before doing that we unloaded ARCServe, TAPEBD,
FireFox's NOVIX TCP/IP gateway.  I have never seen this before where
the console freezes but the server is FINE(well it still allows you to
login and stuff).  Any ideas would be appreciated.

K. Assali

Oh, Server is 3.11 Northgate EISA, 32MB RAM, NE2000 and SCSI Express.

TIA
Khaled
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:21:37 PST
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From:         sunuru!buere@SUN.COM
Subject:      print PCX

I need a program to print PCX's files.

I have tried with "viewer", a program that comes with NSEPro but
this program cannot print a PCX file.

The program I am looking for, must run from the DOS prompt and
the parameters we would need to run them had to be no more than
three.(the name of the PCX file to print,etc.)

"Viewer" seems to be O.K but I cannot print a file with it.

If anybody knows a program, please send me a mail.

Thank you very much.

I look forward to hearing from you shortly.

Best regards and Season's Greetings!!

Alvaro Buere
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From:         "Tisdell, Mike" <MIKE@LARSE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Leased lines

> For the last several months I have been routing traffic
> over KA9Q and a 14.4K baud modem.  Now I have been given a 56K leased
> line. Can some one point me toward some information decribing
> equipment requirements for leased lines?


>1:  Get a pair of Ciscos or Proteon routers, one for each end of the
>wire. Both brands have X.21/V35 ports which will handle speeds up to
>and beyond 64K.

Don't Do this it is expensive, and an over kill since the internet
supports
only IP you will never need the capablilities of a multi protocol router.

And morningstar's router has far better IP filtering than cisco or
proteon.

>2:  Buy two copies of the Novell MPR (multi-protocol router) with a new
>Novell product called WAN Links, and a pair of Novell Synch+ cards. You
>can eliminate one of the MPRs if you are prepared to use your NetWare
>3.11 server as a router.

You can use an inexpensive router such as a Netblazer or Morningstar
router, and a 56k DSU. We use morining stars PPP software router (works
with most unix systems $700) and it has the best filtering capablities of
any IP router I have used. It is one of the few routers I know that will
allow filltering of incoming FTP or TELNET sessions (or any other TCP/IP
protocols), but allows outgoing sessions to pass. There new hardware
router is very small (about 2"x4"x5") and I think less than a pound and
sells less than $1000. As for DSU's I can only recomend our own, we
manufacture DSU's and CSU's for 56k through T3.

                           Mike Tisdell  internet: mike@larse.com
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From:         Richard Warwick <WARWICKR@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ARCNET

DATE SENT:  21-DEC-1992 10:26:23
>
>     Hi Networkers,
>
>     Our site have six Novell Servers. They are connected by Routers
>     with ARCNET Cards.
>     We are using old 93 ohms cable to do that. The servers aren't
>     placed in the same building.
>     Isn't the better, but it is working well and we can't get the
>     fiber yet.
>     The problem is: Find that cards.
>     If somebody knows any Arcnet Card Dealer, please E-mail me!
>     Thanks in advance.
>
>     ======================================
>     Ricardo Ramiro
>     USP - University of Sao Paulo
>     CIAGRI/ESALQ
>     Brazil
>     E-Mail : RIRAMIRO@lambari.ciagri.usp.br
>     =======================================

I've had very good results with ARCNET cards from Thomas Conrad Co.
If you subscribe to this list you have probably seen messages
from Dave Kearns.  Since he's probably too modest, I'll attach
his information here:

      Dave Kearns                 |                                |
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      Thomas-Conrad Corp.         | dkearns@tcc [MHS via NHUB]     |
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      Austin, TX 78758            | 76704,62 [CompuServe]          |
      (512) 836-1935              |                                |


If you write or call him, he'll probably get you information about
purchasing his products in Brazil.

Good Luck,
Richard

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From:         David Harris <DLH@PMAIL.GEN.NZ>
Subject:      Re: Mac & PC sharing the same PS printer possible ?

> I have Postscript printers attached to NW3.11 server running PSERVER.NLM
> and PSERVER.EXE on a PC through serial/parallel ports. It was originally
> used for PC only, is it possible to let Mac users access to these printers?
> I have AFP service running running on the NW3.11 server.

Yes, but you need to have NetWare for Macintosh 3.01 or later. 3.011
also allows you to change the name you advertise (under 3.01, you can
only advertise the name of the queue in its uppercase NetWare format).

If you have 3.01 or later and want a hand setting this up, mail me back
directly and I'll take you through the steps.

Cheers!

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Subject: one workstation
From: jtucker@cstp.umkc.edu
Date: 22 Dec 92 17:53:18 -0600
Organization: UM - Kansas City, Computer Science
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Greetings,


I am trying to setup a small lan with only one workstation to begin with and 
I can't figure out how to get one workstation to connect directly to the
server without going through any concentrator or transciever.  I am using a
NE2000 in both the server and the workstation and twisted pair wire.  
Any suggestions on how to go about doing this.



JT:

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Subject: Re: ODIPKT/FTPBIN/TN3270
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:52:27 GMT



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From:         Jim Wirt <WIRT@OSUPPLNT.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Re: execute only flag

>
> The only way out of the problem is to re-install , or use your
restore
> program.
>
> Richard
> --

Richard,
   I know that Novell claims that the files can only be deleted once
they are flag execute only but I think there is a bug.  If you delete
an EXECUTE only file it can be then be salvaged and the EXECUTE only
flag is removed.  I was real suprised when I discovered this.  It is
a bug in what I was assuming was a safe way to protect an individual
file.

Jim Wirt
Okla State Univ.
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From:         "Dalit Shickman (585217)" <DALIT@HUJIVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Another Windows Solution

NO , I haven't but I could really use something like that.
Dalit
Dalit Shickman
School of Library Sciences
Hebrew University
Jerusalem
Israel

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From:         stephen@BOKONON.UUCP
Subject: Re: List traffic

[BEWARE:  The following contains OPINIONS]

   Joe suggests that the readership do things like not posting non-Novell
queries here, not posting "me too"s, not including excessive portions
of previous posts, shorter .signatures, checking other sources of
information (FAQs, vendor BBSes, *gasp* manuals, etc.) first, etc.

   The only problem is that net.experience shows that very few people
actually _do_ this common-sense stuff.  All of this stuff falls under
the category of net.etiquette.  Unfortunately, it's a scarce commodity
on the net.  Always has been, as far as I can tell (but I've only been
net.connected for four years), and always will be.

   I run the FAQs for biz.sco.general.  I have two FAQs:  an admin
one, with net.etiquette etc., and a technical one, with real questions
and answers.  Guess which one is larger?  I'd like to think it makes
a difference, but I'm not sure it does.  For further evidence,
look in alt.binaries.pictures.erotica if you get it, and count the
percentage of posts that are discussion, which belongs in another
group.

$        Please regard this as just my opinion on the volume; I read every msg.

   Personally, I like to at least scan every message.  However, on days
when the volume builds up, I scan the Subject: lines only and delete
stuff I'm not interested in.  And there's another good point:  people,
PLEASE put Subject: lines in.  If I'm in a hurry, the following will
automatically get deleted:

- messages entitled (No subject given)
- messages that are all in capitals and therefore hard to read
- messages with lines > 80 characters

   I think there's something about that in the FAQ, actually; if you
make your message easy to read and put a Subject: on it, people
are more likely to read it, and you're more likely to get some
response.

   I guess I should step down off my soapbox before someone throws
a tomato :-)

-Steve
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Reply-To:     Bob Abbott <bob.abbott@pcohio.wariat.org>
From:         Bob Abbott <bob.abbott@PCOHIO.WARIAT.ORG>
Subject:      clipper and ipx

   >From:         Ray Todd Stevens <RAY@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL>
   >Subject:      clipper and ipx

RTS>Is anyone using IPX to communicate between clipper applications?  I
   >am not talking about going through a file server, but directly
   >sending packets between two clipper applications.  If so what did you
   >use to do it?

  I've used NETLIB from Pinnacle Publishing.  Has a few functions like
N_SEND() to send messages to other stations.  Also can detect who has
file open or locked, things like this.  Slightly over priced but good
stuff (formerly written by Communications Horizons.)

  Nantucket has a network lib also.  Don't know what is in it but you
can get a deal on it soon.  At COMDEX CA told me the next upgrade
to Clipper will be $99. CA will have a competitive upgrade available for
$149 which includes the network library.  Find an old dBase proof of
ownership and do the competitive upgrade instead of the regular upgrade.
(Does this show you something about what CA thinks of current
customers?)

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From:         Dave Kearns <DKEARNS.TCC@KLAVEN.TCI.COM>
Subject: Re: execute only flag

FORWARDED MESSAGE from Richard Letts (RLetts @ SMTP
RL>
RL> Jim Wirt writes....
>
> Richard,
>    I know that Novell claims that the files can only be deleted once
> they are flag execute only but I think there is a bug.  If you delete
> an EXECUTE only file it can be then be salvaged and the EXECUTE only
> flag is removed.  I was real suprised when I discovered this.  It is
> a bug in what I was assuming was a safe way to protect an individual
> file.
>
RL>
RL> Neat - this goes into the supervisors bag of tricks - one has to be
RL> able to to anything for a user, aparantly without effort in order to
cultivate the
RL> mystique that networking is difficult.
RL>
RL> Richard                 .sig deleted.

***** NOTES from Dave Kearns (DKEARNS @ TCC) at 12/23/92 12:50 PM

Hmm......

I just tried this, and after SALVAGEing the file, it was still flagged
eXecute only....

NW 3.11, Salvage 3.56, Flag 3.27

-dave

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| (512) 836-1935              |                                |
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From:         Loren Aman <AMANL@COLUMBIA.DSU.EDU>
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Is anybody using Intel's StorageExpress system?  I am interested in
it's functionality, speed, etc.

Thanx,


- Loren Aman
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: 'Netware Control Protocol'-packet

>Subj:  'Netware Control Protocol'-packet
>
>Date: 21 Dec 1992 14:12:58 +0100
>From: S90406129@HSEPM1.HSE.NL
>Subject: 'Netware Control Protocol'-packet
>
>Hi there,
>
>Does a
>know how a NCP-packet looks like.
>I'm working on a hack-utility which makes it possible to become
>SUPERVISOR equivalent.
>
>The last thing I should implement is this NCP structure.....
>
>If someone can help me out with thisQ,
>Thanx , Marino
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        I can't help with the NCP details, but I do have a small suggestion,
which is please try doing something CONSTRUCTIVE for a change. I and many
people have had enough of the fun and games from your area, thank you very
much. Here's a project worth undertaking: replace Rprinter and friends with
utilities that work correctly all the time. This requires much more technical
skill than your current efforts so I don't know if you are up to the challenge.
        Joe D.
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