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From: collins@prl.philips.nl (Donie Collins)
Subject: Belgian results. round 9.
Originator: collins@serpent
Organization: Philips Research Labs (Nat.Lab), Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 17:33:12 GMT

League round 9
Games played 2/10, 3/10 and 4/10.

 RWD Molenbeek     1 Charleroi         1
 Lorincz             Malbasa

 FC Luik           2 Standard Luik     3
 Arnold              Vervoort
 Ikpeba              Cruz
		     Van Rooy

 SK Beveren        2 Germinal Ekeren   0
 Essende
 Boonan

 Racing Genk       1 RSC Anderlecht    3
 Busutil             Degryse
		     Crasson
                     Vossen

 KV Mechelen       1 Boom              0
 Bartholomeeussen

 Royal Antwerp FC  2 Lommel            0
 Severeyens(2)

 Cercle Brugge     5 Lierse SK         1
 Karacic
 Soenens
 Coorman
 Weber(2)

 Waregem SV        5 AA Gent           1
 Desloover           Medved
 Descamps
 Vidmar
 Abeels
 Teppers

 SK Lokeren        0 Club Brugge       1
		     Staelens

Table
-----                             Goals
Team                PL    PTS   For  Against
Anderlecht           9    15    26   11
Standard Luik        9    15    19   10
Club Brugge          8    13    12    4
Charleroi            9    11    22   15
Beveren              9    11    10   10
AA Gent              9    10    15   11
KV Mechelen          9    10    15   12
Waregem              9    10    21   15
Lierse SK            9     9    15   13
FC Antwerp           8     9    16   15
RWDM                 9     8     9   10
Germinal Ekeren      9     7    15   18
KRC Genk             9     7    10   11
Boom                 9     6    15   22
FC Luik              9     6    12   23
Lokeren              9     5     7   16
Cercle Brugge        9     5    18   24
Lommel               9     3     6   24


League Scorers (as per 4-10-92).
1. Malbasa (Charleroi)          8 goals;
   Vidmar (Waregem)             8 goals;
   Weber (Cercle Brugge)        8 goals;

4. Bettagno (Standard Luik)     6 goals;
   Ikpeba (FC Luik)             6 goals; 
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From: jmcbride@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Murdo McLeod ???
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:40:53 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

In article <1992Oct4.134309@uni-paderborn.de>, laetta@uni-paderborn.de (Udo Koerber) writes:
> Hi there in Scotland,
> 
> as Borussia Dortmund supporter i'd like to hear
> something new (after a 1-year-gap) about Murdo,
> 
> is he still playing for Motherwell ?
> how are things going for him nowadays ?
> 
> Thanks and bye,
>                 L"atta.

As far as I know, he is player/coach for Hibernian, still in the Scottish
Premier.


james p mc bride
From: am5q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Andy Yin Meau)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Bryan Robson
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:42:17 GMT
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


I have been a fan of Bryan Robson for more than 6 years now, but I just
came to Pittsburgh a month ago, and I lost track of all the soccer news.
 I can't even buy a soccer magazine here.  It's horrible.  Can someone
please inform me the situation concerning Bryan Robson?  Is he still
playing for Man Utd, or I heard he is the manager of Sporting Lisbon?  

Thanks,
Andy
From: veit@Unify.com (Veit Irtenkauf)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: STUTTGART COCK-UP
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:18:10 GMT
Organization: Unify Corporation (Sacramento)

In article <1992Oct2.124733.9176@vax.oxford.ac.uk>, stuart@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
> 
> As to the present situation stuttgart should clearly go out. they were actually
> in breach of regulations by even having the fourth player on the bench. 

So what?  According to the rules it's the referee's responsibility to check
whether or not players of a team are allowed to play in a game.  If the 
referee allows Stuttgart to bench four international players, Stuttgart cannot 
be punished by that.

> As
> everyone knows, when the second substitution was made Leeds had about eight
> minutes to score one goal to go through. The german team was near to breaking
> and by bringing on an international defender, illegally, it clearly altered the
> outcome of the result. 

Although the side-line referee has to check out every substitute, too, before he's
allowed to enter the game, I agree that the referee and his sideliners cannot be
responsible for how many international players are in the game at the same time.
Therefore, I understand Leeds' protest.

The fairest solution for me would be to have one game on neutral ground, and 
the team that wins the game advances.

-- Veit


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From: paull@plasma.co.uk (Paul Lee)
Subject: Re: Where are the English hooligans?
Reply-To: paull@plasma.co.uk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 08:33:18 GMT

It does seem as though people get an exaggerated view of opinions. By the way
 RUMBLEOWS != PREMIER LEAGUE.

The premier league is the old first division, then there is the FA Cup, and the old
League Cup - also called the Littlewoods Cup, Rumbleows Cup and now the Coca-Cola
League Cup, all of which are due to the companies that have sponsored it - 
Littlewoods, Rumbleows and Coca-cola.

On the hooliganism front, English crowds are quite well behaved. I have been to
loads of games and still not seen a mass brawl that everbody who doesn't GO to
the games expexts to see all the time. I have seen a minor scuffle at Chelsea
playing Liverpool some years back, and last years Sheffield Wednesday v Sheffield
United derby produced a minor fracas. However the majority of people at matches
when a this happens start booing the offenders etc etc....

Most of the problem these days seems to be with some drunken louts abroad, but
even that is sporadic. We all wish they'd stop though. I mean who want's to get
banned from Europe again after games like Leeds v Stuttgart last night.....

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From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Leeds & Stuttgart
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:15:49 GMT
X-Phone: +44 703 593257

In <CHRIS.92Oct2143015@scan.scan.genetik.uni-koeln.de> chris@scan.genetik.uni-koeln.de (Christian Schetter) writes:

>Maybe because it happened in the last minutes of the match without the
>intention to cheat and due to the fact that Stuttgart's manager Dieter
>Hoeness made the 'problem' public to UEFA on thursday morning, the
>decision will be a third match in a neutral country. Decision
>tomorrow.

What amazes me is that the player coming on didn't know the rules were
were being broken.  They should be thrown out - could Leeds have played
the last 10 mins with 12 players?  Rules are rules.

Tim
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From: s009@brems.ii.uib.no (Arne Rivenes)
Subject: FA-cup
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 11:36:40 GMT

Has the 2nd qualifying round in the FA-cup been played yet.
If so, would someone post the results. I'm most interested in Accrington.


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From: mphillip@MATAI.VUW.AC.NZ
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Liverpool lose at home: Sept 26
Date: 28 Sep 92 03:27:10 GMT

FA Premier League

Liverpool 2 Wimbledon 3

Liverpool fail at home again. How much longer can Souness continue to draw
his wages. According to the BBC World Service, Liverpool's defence was
shaky again. Any bets on Souness getting a vote of confidence from his
Chairman this week (and we all know what that means)?
Martin Phillipson
Faculty of Law
Victoria University
PO Box 600
Wellington NZ
tel +64 -4- 472-1000 x 8284     	or +64-4-471-5342 x 8284
fax +64 -4- 495-5236

email address   mphillip@matai.vuw.ac.nz

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From: msdloem@cs.vu.nl (Loemban MSD)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,soc.culture.spain
Subject: Re: Spanish Championship, Week 5
Date: 5 Oct 92 09:38:19 GMT
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
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:                         Stoichkov was sent off
			  ---------------------- !
How can Stoichkov play (almost) every game with Barcelona when he's
also sent off in (almost) every game ? Isn't there some rule that would
give him a suspension from a game after a red card ? Or is Barcelona
constantly protesting the referee's decision so Stoichkov can play the next
game ?
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From: pjed@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Peter Edmondson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: World Cup Qualifying Results
Date: 28 Sep 92 05:26:21 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au

harin@iti.gov.sg (Harinderpal Singh) writes:

>Playoff 2 (Playoff 1 winner vs Concacaf runner-up)
>--------------------------------------------------

>Its hard to say at this stage who the Concacaf runner-up will be, but considering that the favourites for the top two spots are Mexico and Canada, it is likely to be either of these countries.

Just some thoughts really, but considering that the form CONCACAF team
COSTA-RICA is in the same group as Mexico it seems highly likely that
the direct qualifier will come from that group.  
 Of course this is great news for Australia since one the strongest
teams will have been eliminated without the opportunity to qualify by 
playing Australia. In my opinion the CONCACAF runner-up will probably be
Canada or El Salvador, giving the Oceania qualifier an excellent chance
of advancing to the next stage.
From: jmcbride@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Bryan Robson
Date: 30 Sep 92 09:13:43 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

In article <0em_C9G00Uh_055p4W@andrew.cmu.edu>, am5q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Andy Yin Meau) writes:
> 
> I have been a fan of Bryan Robson for more than 6 years now, but I ju came to Pittsburgh a month ago, and I lost track of all the soccer news.
>  I can't even buy a soccer magazine here.  It's horrible.  Can someone
> please inform me the situation concerning Bryan Robson?  Is he still
> playing for Man Utd, or I heard he is the manager of Sporting Lisbon?  

I think you'll find that ex-PSV Eindhoven manager BOBBY Robson is the manager
of Portugal's finest, and that your hero Bryan is slowly getting back into
first team football at Old Trafford.  Though he played yesterday, he couldn't
inspire a victory against Torpedo Moscow, United going down on penalties.

>> Thanks,
> Andy


You're welcome,
james
From: MACKINON@BROWNVM.brown.edu (Dr. A. Mackinnon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: HYPOCRISY RULES REC.SPORT.SOCCER
Date: 6 Oct 1992 14:54:06 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Hypocrites, the lot of ewes back in Scotland.  You can all go and get
absolutely horsed every weekend and yet as soon as I do anything,
then it's splattered all over the  world.  Well, there'll be nae
duty free for anyone and don't expect any I LUV N.Y. T-shirts either.


              WALTER SMITH RULES ALL MANAGERS !!!!!
              RANGERS FC - EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS 1992-93
              DAVIE DODDS -- MY BELOVED..............



Sandy Mackinnon
WOndering whether to come back to Strathclyde
At Broon Yooni just now
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From: gibson@crisium.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson)
Subject: Re: Van.86ers/US Pro League?/CSL over?
Organization: Dept. of Astronomy / Univ. of British Columbia
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:50:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.133648.1062@galaxy.gov.bc.ca> rkobenter@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:
>Can someone here help me with this:
>
>On the sports report today it was stated that the CANADIAN SOCCER LEAGUE
>is losing one of its premier teams to the American Pro league,
>the VANCOUVER '86ers coached by former Whitecap Lenarduzzi (current
>national manager/coach in Canada), this effectively kills the CSL.
>
>Vancouver lost the Championship to Winnipeg this past Sunday, after
>having dominated the league the previous 4 years.
>
>So my question is: What American Pro league are we talking about?
>
>Please post here!
>

   The APSL (American Professional Soccer League).  Current membership stands
   at 5 (Colorado, Tampa, Ft. Lauderdale, plus a couple of others), 
   with L.A. and Vancouver being added next year.

   Brad

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From: JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SWRI.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: re: Re: Soccer Referee group
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:24:05 GMT

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In article <12638@sail.LABS.TEK.COM> ke@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Keith Ericson) 
writes:
>In article <1992Sep24.172418.20609@cbfsb.cb.att.com> 
weisz@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.weisz) writes:
>>> I would be very interested in seeing a dedicated Referee's group started.
>>I would be interested in a reffing group also.
>
>keithe

Seconded!!! All thoughs in favor say AYE!!!

Rich Coon

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AYE! AYE ! AYE ! AYE! AYE! AYE! AYE!
From: LIPSCOJA@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Andy Lipscomb)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Denmark panel for wednesday anyone?????
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:45:30 GMT
Organization: Vanderbilt University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

> I think the game will be interesting, and I believe that we have the
> strength to defeat the Irish. There should be no lack of motivation
> for this won, and we traditionally do well against British teams.

Since when is Ireland a *British* team?  Technically, not even Northern
Ireland is (although they are UK); Great Britain is the island containing
England, Scotland, and Wales.

Andy Lipscomb
lipscoja@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
Mt. Juliet Capulets--Ultra Cricket
From: scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Uefa Cup - Shef Wed result
Date: 2 Oct 92 11:51:34 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, Wales, UK
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

For all you waiting with baited breath for this result :-) (if you haven't
seen it already)....it ended:

Spora Lux 1 (Cruez?) Shef Wed 2 (Watson, Warhurst)
(aggreagte 10-2 to Wednesday)

The only things to say about this (wrt Wednesday) was that most of the
regular first team were rested, debuts being given to the likes of Watts
(young defender signed from Rotherham last season) and Michael (?) Williams 
(young winger come up through the ranks). The other significant fact
being the return of Paul Warhust just over 2 weeks after his near fatal
accident (swallowing his tonugue inthe corresponding match) - and what's
more scoring the winner!

Up the Owls

gordon
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From: michal@vsnmc1.cern.ch (Michal Szleper)
Subject: Re: Galatasaray-Katowice
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, Geneva
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:01:56 GMT

Wlodzimierz Kasprzak asked if Polish league was really so bad.
Well, just look at the results of the second leg European Cups
and judge it yourself.  It shouldn't surprise you.  As long as
the policy of the PZPN (Polish Football Association) is selling
to foreign clubs any single player who represents some minimum
level, those who remain in Polish clubs are the outsiders.
In this edition of EC we almost reached the level of Malta and
Luxemburg (apologies to Maltans and Luxemburgians, no offend
intented).  Well, but the gentlemen at top positions of Polish
soccer care so much about filling up their pockets, that they
cannot bother with such unimportant details as results of their
teams.  Sad but true.

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From: MLINDROOS@finabo.abo.fi (Marcus Lindroos INF)
Subject: Re: pro soccer in the USA.
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:24:36 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

In <1992Sep25.173636.4663@europa.asd.contel.com> andy@rocky.gte.com writes:

> 1000 for a International Match?  Try ten times that and that was one of
> the worst turnouts for the US National team in the last two years.  In
> fact the US National Team I believe has the 5th or 6th best support in
> terms of attendance in the World.  
> 
> Andy

Um, sorry Andy, but the US average attendance was about 25,000 for the 1990-91
season. Still *MORE* than respectable fan support, 
I compared this figure to those of the
countries that have hosted World Cups in the past and the US was about average
in this respect (=better than Sweden, Mexico, Switzerland and Spain I think).
If we look at Europe, the US would've finished among the Top-10 as far as
attendance goes (out of a possible 34 teams). So much for the claim that
Americans do not "care" about soccer! There are millions of fans over there
and they shouldn't be forgotten just because the average American in the street
doesn't know that much about soccer - yet!

MARCU$

PS: My national team-by-national team statistical review of the 1991-92 is
almost complete, although I promised last year I wouldn't do it again! As
before, you can expect game-by-game lineups, results, goalscorers for *ALL*
international soccer games played by European and South American teams plus the
important North/Central American and African teams (sadly, not all team lineups
were available for these nations). I'm waiting for my copy of THE EUROPEAN 
1991-92 FOOTBALL YEARBOOK as I'll have to proofread the European sections
first.
From: tanner@kbomfg.enet.dec.com (Dave Tanner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Denmark panel for wednesday anyone?????
Date: 6 Oct 92 10:00:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: rdg.1992Oct6.090711.5672
Organization: "Digital Equipment Co., Kaufbeuren, Germany"


     Can anyone out there post the Danish panel for next weeks game against
Eire or has it not been selected yet????? What is the general feeling in
Denmark about this game???? Are the players under pressure after their bad
run since the Euro championship from the media, fans????? Lars maybe you can
help me on this one??????  


                                                regards......

                                                    -dave-
From: esc158t@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: SAMPDORIA - A.C. MILAN
Date: 27 Sep 92 14:08:14 GMT
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

Round 4 of the Italian Serie A

Just heard on the radio here in Australia directly from Italy:

Sampdoria - Milan will not be played due to exceptionally heavy rain fall.
The locker rooms are flooded with water as high as 1 meter!

Italian regulations say that the match should be played tomorrow unless one of
the teams is engaged in European Cup during the week.  A.C. Milan will play on

Italian soccer regulations say that the match has to be palyed, if possible,
the following day unless one of the teams must play for a European Cup during
the week. A.C. Milan will play the second leg of round of EC1. Ho
From: WMONROE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU (WILLIAM MONROE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Women's World Cup Video
Date: 30 Sep 1992 11:00:11 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Anyone know if a tape of the Women's World Cup final from China is
available on tape?  This is the USA's first world championship in
soccer(football).  There HAS to be one.


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