From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD:  rec.music.enya
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:05:43 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <6344@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
|In article <1992Apr9.014054.2819@amhux2.amherst.edu> twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
|>The passage of rec.music.phish and, to a lesser
|>extent, alt.music.enya has rather badly damaged newbies' impressions
|>of the newsgroup creation process.
|
|Damaged it or liberated it?
|
The newgroup creation process remains intact.  The newsgroup heirarchy
suffers tremendously.  

>In particular, the Erlandites would have folks believe that a 100-message/day
>rec.music.misc is not too much to wade through. Obviously, folks disagree with
>that.

There are many that don't consider that a 100-message/day group to be
unwieldly.  These are typically the type of people that have taken the
time to learn about their newsreaders, have taken the time to read
news.announce.newusers about net.ettiquite,  and are taking an unselfish
view of why the new heirarchy exist in the way that it does.

>This proposal is yet another sign that rec.music.misc is breaking up,
>whether the Erlandites like it or not.

Coincidently, many of those in Erland Camp were here during the "great 
newsgroup reorganizaion" and have interest in the newsgroup heirarchy as
a whole and not just what's happening to rec.music.misc.  This is just
one of the reasons that I will vote no for rec.music.enya.  Just so the
others are considered I'd like to offer what I think are reasons for not
creating rec.music.enya.  If someone would like to post a list of reasons
for voting for creating the group than those that vote for or against the
group will have the necessary information needed to make a objective descision
rather than emotional one.

1.  Rec.music.enya screws up the music heirarchy.  The name chosen for a
newsgroup should be evaluated on it`s effect on the newgroup heirarchy.
A poor name selection makes the heirarchy confusing, unwieldly and sets
precedence for the future deterioration of that heirarchy.

2.  Enya hasn't stood the test of time to warrent her own newsgroup.  Her
impact on music as a whole is quite insignificant compared to the number
of artists that have made a serious dent (borrowed that from Tim, I believe) 
on the music industry.  She's only been popular for a little while.

3.  The amount of traffic about Enya doesn't warrent a separate newgroup.
The current traffic has primarily centered about her two most recent 
releases and the traffic has primarily been in rec.music.newage.  The
traffic in that group at the time was at a low so the Enya discussion became
much more visable.  Rec.music.newage is a low volume newsgroup anyway and
Enya discussions hardly make the group unwieldly.

4.  Rec.music.misc is the perfect place to discuss Enya.  Enya`s music has
been described as "crossing boundries".  The description of rec.music.misc
describes the group as "A group for Music Lovers".  It is a group for 
people that love music regardless of classification.  I can't think of a
better fit.

5.  A mailing list hasn't even been tried.  

6.  Newgroups shouldn't be creating for topics that are only currently
popular.  Newgroup creation suggestions are a dime a dozen.  They are
typically offered by people that have little understanding of Usenet as
a whole.  I would imagine that a lot of the people that sent supportive
mail messages to the CFD author were also offering their vote.  These
votes don't count.  I see the creation of a group for a particular artist
to be a selfish effort by the fans to get information that they are interested 
handed to them on a platter.  I think they would benefit by making their
music information selections from a whole smorgasborg of offerings that are
available in rec.music.misc.  You might find something that you find 
distasteful but you might also discover something new that you would have
missed by hiding away in rec.music.enya.  


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