HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lchsu@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Leon Hsu)
Subject: Re: An open letter to Emperor Akihito of Japan
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:09:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.100107.11662@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
> [a whole load of crap]
>The permanent members of the security council are currently
>France, Russia, England, USA, & China.  I see something amiss.
>China should be kicked out immediately.  We should not tolerate
>agressors like the Chinese.

Yeah we shouldn't tolerate any agressors, especiallyy ones that stick their 
noses all over the world where they are not really welcome. I'm talking
about your sacred US of A Dwight. You seem to be so proud to be part
of a country that can't even feed its poor, shelter its homeless,
but keeps on pouring billions into its military and using it to 
push other little countries around. 
>
>Unless the Chinese acknowledge what they've done, China and
>predominantly Chinese nations should be treated as pariahs.
>
Like your beloved Republic of China?

>P.S.
>
>Have a nice day.

Not as long as there people as ignorant as you voicing bigotted opinions
and backing them up with twisted statistics and meaningless rhetoric.

-leon.
-- 
Blood is the rose of mysterious union.
				-James Douglas Morrison.
From: rap@peaberry.doc.ic.ac.uk (Ross Paterson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Korean and Altaic (was Re: Amusing)
Date: 12 Aug 92 12:27:00 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.

From article <1992Aug11.232148.24409@athena.mit.edu>, by hongyeol@athena.mit.edu (Michael Hong Yeol Lim):
> By the way, I remember hearing one of my professors tell me that the
> Korean language is related to Turkish, since both are Ural-Altaic. I
> know that Japanese and Korean are very similar (almost identical
> grammatical rules in many cases). Does anyone know the lineage of
> languages, and where they started branching?

There are some linguists working on "macro-families" of languages, but
their conclusions are not accepted by the mainstream.  For a language
family, most linguists require a body of core vocabulary, with the forms
in the various languages related by specified sound rules.  This has been
shown, for example, for the Uralic family (Finnish, Hungarian, Estonian,
Saami, Samoyedic, etc), but not for any link between Uralic and Altaic
(Turkish, Mongolian, Manchu, etc).  Though gaining in acceptance, the
unity of Altaic is still controversial: some people think the common
vocabulary is the result of the 3 language groups existing side-by-side
for a long time, rather than a common ancestor.

Structural similarity is not usually accepted as evidence of a genetic
relationship; such features usually spread over a geographical area
and cut across ancestries of languages.  For example, the languages of
south-east Asia belong to a four or five different families, but all share
a number of structural features: tones, syllable structure, word order,
etc.  There are numerous examples round the world.  Often other languages
of these families outside the area lack the common structural features.

Similarly, the emphasis on core vocabulary: it's more significant if two
languages have similar words for "hand" than for "chariot".  Even core
vocabulary can be borrowed, and this places a limit on how far back
we can distinguish a genetic relationship from just being neighbours.
(There is a theory called "glottochronology", which claims to measure
how long ago a given pair of related languages diverged by assuming a
constant rate of replacement of core vocabulary, but there's now a lot
of evidence that this rate varies wildly.)

So I think it's fair to say that while some linguists would bundle Korean
and Japanese in with Altaic, Uralic and other families, most believe that
it's not possible to show that either of them is genetically related to
any other known language (or each other).

PS: all this stuff about "genetic" refers to languages, not the ancestry
of peoples, which is often different and more complex, though there have
been some efforts to relate linguistics and human genetics.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.korean:3798 soc.culture.asian.american:8349 soc.culture.asean:5632 soc.culture.taiwan:12279 soc.culture.china:23690 soc.culture.japan:7176
From: gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.asean,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china,soc.culture,soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: The mutant
Date: 23 Aug 92 04:45:20 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

deng@dd-ap.rhic.bnl.gov (dp) writes:


>Is it really necessary to debate with Dwight the Mutant Joe? ;-). Let's
>borrow a proverb to him: you know what kinds of sh** the mutant is going to
>spew as soon as his tail wiggles. So why bother?!

No, please pay a little attention to his article. You have not found the
real meaning of his article. I have found one secrit :
I tried to do an summation of his article, result:
the sum of all code of his article is zero. How amazing!
Hope you can find a nother secrit.
Good luck!
----
When you make your mark in the world, watch out for guys with erasers.
		-- The Wall Street Journal
From: cho@cs.pitt.edu (Il-Hyung Cho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: DP leader protested the harsh police crackdown
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:46:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: pitt.16096
Organization: Computer Science Dept., University of Pittsburgh

The followings are mostly from Korean Herald News (8/18).

The main opposition Democratic Party(DP) protested
that thee measures police used to quell a recent wave of student
demonstrations were excessive.

The party protested the destruction of school facilities when
riot police stormed into Chungang Univ in Seoul to stop
preparations for a massive rally by student and dissidents.
(They were rallying for the BumMinJokDaeHwe which was also supposed to
hold in N-Korea.)

Residents around the campus were also subjected to police 
violence as riot police searched homes for escaping
demonstratorss, the party said in a statement.

A group of DP officials visited the Seoul metropolitan police
headquarters  to file a protest and demand that the
gov pay for damages to the univ, estimated at $30 million won ($38,000).
(The school estimated the loss was more than 1 billion won.  Many facilities
like computers and students experiment equipments were broken by the riot
police.)

The antigov rally, the largest in recent months, was
timed to coincide with the 47th anniversary of the nation's
liberation from Japanese colonial rule Aug. 15, 1948.

Despite a massive police crackdown, student activists and
dissidents pushed ahead with the rally as scheduled, changing
the rally site from Chungang Univ to Seoul National Univ.
The demonstrators demanded early national reunification.

In an attempt to prevent the rally, the riot police squads came
into several Seoul campuses where radical students were gathered
and arrested students and confiscated related materials.

In one incident hundreds of riot police invaded Seoul's main
raailway station, firing tear gas to quell a student
demonstration. The unusually harsh(?) police crackdown invited
angry protest from incensed citizens.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.korean:3708 soc.culture.asian.american:8206 soc.culture.asean:5569
From: thao@bnr.ca (Anthony Murtagh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.asean
Subject: China/Dwight/Re: An open letter to Emperor Akihito of Japan
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:47:21 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.

In article <1992Aug19.182318.6152@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.133743.5387@bnr.ca> thao@bnr.ca (Anthony Murtagh) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug19.100107.11662@leland.Stanford.EDU>
>>underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>

[lotsa "stuff" deleted]

>
>>
>>i understand the intensity with which you defend japan--it is the same
>
>Come on.  This is bull.
>
>Mr. Thao, in your entire post, you never once acknowledged that
		 		^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
you don't need my acknowledgement.  aren't you sure of your figures?
what would my acknowledgement accomplish?  it wouldn't move the world,
rid us of hunger and despair, or return buttermilk and ranch dressing,
which by the way is a very good salad dressing (don't know why 7 seas
stopped producing it).

>the Chinese committed atrocities, whose numbers far exceed the Japanese.
>I acknowledged that Japan did, in fact, commit atrocities.
>
>I hardly call that defending Japan with "intensity".
>

whoops!  sorry, i guess i *misunderstood* then.  i mistook your anti-china
sentiments as defending the good of japan.  :-)  after all, you did imply
that it was your favorite country...anyway....

i take it all back, except for the buttermilk and ranch dressing.  i
still think 7 seas should continue production.  this is of course
after discontinuing the buttermilk recipe as well.

just curious though, how would you react to someone who bashed
japanese-cu's et al every other post?

laly thao

"it's one thing to be stupid; it's another to be stupid and not
 know it."


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From: junglee@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Jung S. Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:25:54 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Aug19.174646.6723@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, umin@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Un-Sig Min) writes:
> >In article <kim.920818121048@magneto.physics.auburn.edu>, news@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
> >> That is all. I want to love Japan even though I have something in my mind and
> >> am suspicious on Japan. Hope some day Japan be a Big brother who is
> >						 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> trustable.       
> >
> >No flaming is intended. 
> >Ms. or Mr. Kim; I see your good will toward improvement of the
> >relationship between Korea and Japan. But why Japan as "a Big
> >brother"?  Why not we stand equally? Just reminds me of old bullshit 
>                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Can we (Korea and Japan) ? 
  
  Yes, of course. 

> I don't believe it will happen soon.

  Don't we stand equally now as two independent countries?
  Do we pay respect to Japan as a Big brother now? Nooooo.
  Are you a dumm stupid idiot?
 
>  Politics, Economics, Education and Technology  of Korea are inferior to 
>  those of Japan.

   Then How about China being inferior to America and Japan? Shouldn't
   China pay respect to them as God Fathers? Shouldn't
   China obey whatever these two countries tells to do?
 
>  I cannot insist any superiority of korea at this moment.

   
   Again, you, idiot. Which country is your criterion? 
   If you are based on Japan, Shouldn't China pay respect to Japan as
   a big brother? What does china have superior to Japan? I can't find
   any except exploding population, since you don't want me to mention
   Olympics. 

   Superiority of one country comes from people, not from what you
   see outside. 

>  Please don't give me Olympics as a example.

>  I am afraid that Korean may use Japanese capital in the future.  Then Japan

   Well, You will see that won't happen. And Make sure that doesn't 
   happen to your nation.
 
>  will act as not only Big Brother but also God Father.

>
> Un-Sig                           

Sigh!@ Don't disgrace yourself.
From: park@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Yongsup Park)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: iyagi help????
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:58:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Aug14.185838.19721
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <1992Aug14.170707.23402@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> ajun@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Alexander W. Jun) writes:

>I have been using 'are a Hangul' and very happy with it.

This is a good WP.   Version 2.0 is much much better.

>From the discussion, which I have not been following very closely, I
>got to know about this 'Iyagi' from Kaist.

Iyagi in itself is not a WP.  It's HanGul terminal emulator though
it has built-in editor.
-- 
----
Yongsup Park                 / park@casbah.acns.nwu.edu / Why do I insist on
Physics and Astronomy Dept. / park@anmsd3.msd.anl.gov  / AT&T ?  Because they 
Northwestern University    / B40180@ANLCV1.BITNET     / hire physicists.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim)
Subject: For the Gossip Lovers... (And other mumbling)
Reply-To: jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 02:38:09 GMT


In the midst of all the "Korean/Chinese/Japanese/Apology/To Whom/For What"
war in s.c.k. and another political theater going one in Houston, none
other than ASTRODOME, the biggest news here in NYC was about Woody Allen
and his "lover/stepdaughter/adopted daughter of his former lover and former
husband", Soon-Yi Farrow Previn, one of many Korean who were adopted in
USA.  Does it have anything to do with s.c.k?  Well, other than the fact
she has Korean heritage, and s.c.k. is about anything related to Korea....

Absolutely nothing.

Maybe it just caught my attention because it was another fall from grace of
NY icons, following Ed Koch, Donald Trump, George Steinbrenner.  Or maybe
I just found it funny that this is one of the rare cases that someone with
Korean ethnicity is fully treated as American by media.  You tell me.
Anyway, NY Post is great to read in the bathroom.

Since I have already wasted bandwidth, I might as well waste a little bit
more...   :)

With all due respect to people who think some countries owe apology to some
others, if you ask me (of course, nobody did), I don't give a sh*t.  I
DON'T NEED APOLOGIES FROM ANYONE WHO DOES NOT FEEL LIKE DOING IT.  I have a
Japanese friend, who knows about what happened (although different about
what I have learned) and understands the sensitivity of the issue.  That
means a lot more to me than some apology from some politicians full of BS
or emperor.  It would be a nice gesture, if they did, but I rather want
money or new technology.  If we had enough power, apology will be pouring
in, whether we ask them or not.  Even then, it wouldn't be much more than
mental masturbation.  At least the physical version helps DSB (a la James
Choi).

On another note, :) , I promised to work on FAQ stuff, and so far I got
very underwhelming responses :( , so I am thinking about another approach.
BTW, question for someone who has been at s.c.k. for long enough, "Did I do
this before?" 

I honestly can't remember, but this whole FAQ thing feels like deja vu.

Maybe I will cut down my coffee...

Andrew Kim.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.asean
From: kim@xanth.msfc.nasa.gov (Ok-Hyeon Kim - ES55)
Subject: Help IYAGI50
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:23:03 GMT


Hi !1 netters..

Could you anybody help me to solve my problem?
I am trying the IYAGI50 on my PC. What I have done until now is 
I downloaded the file(IYAGI50.EXE) from garam.ka...., and I copyed that 
on my PC directory, then I succeeded to get a lot of files from
IYAGI50.EXE. 

1), I got an idea I.EXE is the run file after several
try and error. Even though I can control the manu bar, I can't edit,
anything  and the keyboard is not matched( typed a strange char.) 
So I tried the baram.bat, which looks like a kind of
config file, and I found the keyboard emulating option. However, I 
can change the option but I can not save the news selection.

2), I can see the mouse cusor on thhe center of the screen but
it doesn't move. 

3), How can I print the korean character?

4), Is there a manual or .doc file for IYAGI50? I know that there is
a help key, but I want to have the one document. 

I appreciate to your kind response, in advence ,  and I apprerciate
one more time if you send by E-MAIL because I can't sometimes 
touch with this usenet...

E-mail Add : kim@xanth.msfc.nasa.gov

Thanx, again...
From: junglee@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Jung S. Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: FAQ anyone?
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:34:09 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.



I kept thinking about FAQ but couldn't pull it out of my mind.
Finally, someone spoke it out loudly. 

Mr. Andrew Kim, I tell you this; I am with you all the way.
I don't know how much help I can be but will try as much as I can.
Let me know how it is going.

Jung S. Lee

P.S. I think this is a good opportunity to be part of s.c.k for everyone.
     Bring your questions, any kind. Let's get our voices together.
From: b0k2481@zeus.tamu.edu (KIM, BYUNGSEON)
Subject: Japanese-Apology
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 08:21:00 GMT

All that are interested in apology or something from Akihito,
please go to either s.c.c or s.c.j, or make another battle field
s.c.c-j.  Or goto Manchu or Kyushu.

I SAY "PLEASE LEAVE S.C.K AND KOREAN PENINSULAR ALONE."
------------------------------------------------------


In article <1992Aug20.025107.28591@wsdnws.waseda.ac.jp>, 61l512@cfi.waseda.ac.jp (Hello, half.rutgers.edu> junglee@gandalf.rutgeom all those shameful crimes. But China cannot ignore the
>
>  Chinese government, either Beijing or Taibei, had never asked an
>apology from Japanese. Only Korea's seems like the apologies from
>other people, not only Japanese but also Chinese. A nationality who
>need otherperson's apology everyday will not be a devoloped, great
>nationality forever.
> 
> 
>-- 
>			61l512@cfi.waseda.ac.jp

Who is this guy?  Another anonymous-cheat-the-net-and-run-away?
This time it is from japan, I guess.
Apology is frequently needed to improve relationship.  I believe
you are one of very few that think such way among all the innocent
japanese people.  Or you are not a japanese, but sneak into waseda's
account.  When you don't understand the meaning and necessity of
the apology, you need something, as previous generation-japanese
did, a forced apology, as hirohito did to McArther after beaten
by A-bombs.

I don't want to send a message to any anonymous posting.
Please go to hell.

B. Sean Kim.............................
From: yeonwook@hardy.u.washington.edu (Mark Choi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: What about China done to Korea?
Date: 20 Aug 92 02:33:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug20.023301.22792
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Aug19.233927.21180@nic.umass.edu> s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Peter Hawkins) writes:
>In article <Aug.19.11.25.42.1992.6843@gandalf.rutgers.edu> junglee@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Jung S. Lee) writes:
>>
>>I guess this topic(Open whatever) from soc.culture.china and
>>soc.culture.japan is getting to soc.culture.korean.^^^^^
>>	    ^^^^^Alphabetical order.
>>
>>My question:
>>	Does it make sense to get an apology from someone while you
>>owe someone else an apology? China had done so many war crimes, more
>>than Japan did, and Korea has never gotten any apology from China, either
>>Main China or Taiwan.  If China feels that the apology for what Japan
>>had done to China during WW II is a must, China should feel obligated
>>to what she had done to Korea in the long history between China and Korea.
>>I am not saying that Japan should not apologize to the Chinese who
>>suffered from all those shameful crimes. But China cannot ignore the
>>need of an apology to Korea either.
>
>gee, china invaded korea once but protected her thrice, what more do you ask?
>-- 
>// s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Peter Hawkins)
>// this message is made possible through the contributions of: 
>// zxcvbnm,./';lkjhgfdsaqwertyuiop[]\=-0987654321`
>// ~!@#$%^&*()_+|}{POIUYTREWQASDFGHJKL:"?><MNBVCXZ


when, and was the protection in the SAME generation?
From: news@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re:correction:KOREAN RELATED SOFTWARE FTP SITE IN USA; DANSI UPLOADED.
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:28:51 GMT
Organization: Auburn University, Auburn, AL

>Hi. Yesterday I uploaded KOREAN HANGUL FONT CARD emulator ,KOREANWP.ZIP
> into a ftp site " nic.funet.fi " under directory pub/culture/korea.

>It emaultes korean font and supports kscode, sambo, dkby, dkbii, dkby2
>-- nearly all of the korean codes.



Also let me tell you how to upload your files into this ftp site.
1)
login by "ftp ftp.funet.fi
          user:uploader   <-----   CORRECTION    
          passwd:your exact email address--- administrator will send email
          if your files are accepted by this ftp site
          cd pub/culture/incoming
          set binary
          set prompt off
          mput (your files)
          quit"
From: kim@magneto.physics.auburn.edu (Han-jung Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: test
Date: 19 Aug 92 05:42:49 GMT
Reply-To: kim@magneto.physics.auburn.edu (Han-jung Kim)
Organization: Auburn University, Auburn, AL
Message-I.D.: <1992Aug19.005951.3207@ducvax.auburn.edu>Lines: 2

One more test for reply! 
dskim@eng.umd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: Re: Unix Hangul-OS ?
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 14:15:34 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Maryland, College Park
Keywords: Unix OS Hangul

In article <Bt5HKA.37v@unx.sas.com> sashzp@lion.unx.sas.com (Heungsun Park) writes:
>They said they have their own share-ware Chinese OS for Sun Station.

	You got to be kidding! Share-ware UNIX for Chinese Char?
	I really think you or they misunderstood some.
	I know Sun distributes International version of SunOS;
	I've heard Sun Micro. Sys. in Korea has Korean version
	(probably one of the variant of the above).
	However, it's not supposed to be SHAREWARE OS.

	I think what you saw (or they use) is their version of 
	MHS (not OS) and either kterm (or their version of xterm)
	- BTW kterm is Kanji Xterm and this also can handle Hangul.

	For you to do what they (chinese) do on Sun,
	you need either kterm or hanterm (both are based on xterm with
	8 bit or multi-byte handling ability); and MHS that can handle
	binary files (or some agreement between sender & receiver
	of hangul file on encoding Hangule file into ASCII & decoding it)

	The possible alternate path may be:
	make xmh - X11 mail handling system -  support hangul with
	built in encoding & decoding scheme for hangul to SMTP only.
	Of course, the sender and receiver has to know about that
	how to encode & decode to read and send Hangul mail.

	The other may be X.4(5)00.

>What's is SUN-KLE ?
	Sun Korean Language Env. (?)
>How?
	Buy it.
-- 
	Daeshik Kim	H: (703)273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
	/PN=Daeshik.Kim/O=SprintIntl/ADMD=Telemail/C=US/@Sprint.com
	dskim@eng.umd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.asean
From: jc6q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jin-Wan Cho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: FAQ anyone?
Date: 14 Aug 92 09:36:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.seWywna00WBLI2a48p
Organization: Doctoral student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hi, netters,

Can anyone kindly explain what FAQ is?
(or at least what FAQ stands for?)
Sorry about the inconvenience.

Jin Wan Cho.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean