HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tendico@hubcap.clemson.edu (Todd Endicott)
Subject: Re: Level 42
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:54:58 GMT

In article <rilchang.2.721995211@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au> rilchang@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (LESLIE CHANG) writes:

>In article <1380@ozz.oasis.icl.co.uk> cwa@oasis.icl.co.uk (Christopher Adams) writes:
>
>>Why don't I here anything about Level 42/Mark King in this group?
>
>>I thought he was one of the best.
>
>>        .-----------------------------.-----------------------------.
>>        | Mr.Zap ---*                 | Organising C programmers is |
>>        | aka Chris Adams             | like trying to herd cats.   |
>>        | cwa@getafix.oasis.icl.co.uk |         -- Unknown          |
>>        `-----------------------------'-----------------------------'
>He is one of the best...  well basically for his thumb slapping routines 
>and machine triplets.Mark was in Singapore a couple of years ago with L42 
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>I had the pleasure of seeing him live.I got a seat right in front and I 
>got a blast. Well there are so many good bassists around ...each good for 
>particular style and showmanship.They have to have a bassic instinct I 
>guess !!!
>
>					leslie 

Hey all. I'm just wondering what a "machine triplet" is. Is that just a
triplet played very very fast and well, or what?
-- 
Todd Endicott
tendico@hubcap.clemson.edu					 "Yow!"
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: rilchang@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (LESLIE CHANG)
Subject: Re: Level 42
Organization: Halls of Residence, Monash University 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 10:13:31 GMT

In article <1380@ozz.oasis.icl.co.uk> cwa@oasis.icl.co.uk (Christopher Adams) writes:
>Path: monu6!bruce.cs.monash.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!dsbc!ozz!cwa
>From: cwa@oasis.icl.co.uk (Christopher Adams)
>Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
>Subject: Level 42
>Message-ID: <1380@ozz.oasis.icl.co.uk>
>Date: 13 Nov 92 14:38:25 GMT
>Sender: news@oasis.icl.co.uk
>Lines: 9
>Nntp-Posting-Host: getafix.oasis.icl.co.uk
>X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

>Why don't I here anything about Level 42/Mark King in this group?

>I thought he was one of the best.

>        .-----------------------------.-----------------------------.
>        | Mr.Zap ---*                 | Organising C programmers is |
>        | aka Chris Adams             | like trying to herd cats.   |
>        | cwa@getafix.oasis.icl.co.uk |         -- Unknown          |
>        `-----------------------------'-----------------------------'
>He is one of the best...  well basically for his thumb slapping routines 
>and machine triplets.Mark was in Singapore a couple of years ago with L42 
> I had the pleasure of seeing him live.I got a seat right in front and I 
> got a blast. Well there are so many good bassists around ...each good for 
> particular style and showmanship.They have to have a bassic instinct I 
> guess !!!

					leslie 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: moskowit@panix.com (Len Moskowitz)
Subject: Re: Bass for $500 ?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:52:28 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

Ross Allan Roberts writes:

>>>Hohner makes Steinberger-like basses more cheaply than Steinberger; since I
>>>can't stand playing headless basses, I've never looked at them very
>>>seriously.
>
>>	Hohners didn't do anything for me, the action was too off and
>>the neck adjustment was too unpredictable.  One day it would be fine and
>>the next, impossible.  Just my $.02
>
>Reall? I love my Hohner. It always feels good, has a good tone, is LIGHTER
>than that 'Berger it copies, and I could just go on and on... a 1-piece
>neck-thru-body design, in the headless design, with EMG's installed,
>bright red, and I got it for $315 from some guy. Incl. an o-fee-cial
>'Berger bag! Even stood up to my machining the headpiece to make it a
>lefty. 

Me too.  I bought a black Hohner B2V five string Steinberger clone and
converted it to a fretless.  I love it.  No problems!


-- 
Len Moskowitz
moskowit@panix.com
From: mjm@sabal.cis.ufl.edu (Michael Murphy)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Hipshot
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:20:04 GMT
Reply-To: Michael Murphy <mjm@reef.cis.ufl.edu>
Organization: The Bookhouse Boys
In-reply-to: cwalker@canopus.bucknell.edu's message of 10 Nov 92 00:04:07 GMT

I tried to email my response directly to cwalker@canopus.bucknell.edu, but
i got an unknown host...

> 	Lately, I have been tuning my E string down to a low D. I'm
> looking into buying a Hipshot to make these transitions easier. Does
> anyone out there play with one, and, if so, did you install it
> yourself?

Yeah, i was doing the same thing, de-tuning my E down to a D, and as we used
that tuning more and more, it got tiresome having to retune all the time
(expecially at gigs).  So i went for the Hipshot... i like it.  It works fine.

It was easy to install (yes, i installed it myself - it just took a few
minutes.  Well, it would have, but i stopped to clean things and polish the
other three old tuners).  I got the Fender style (large) tuner - they also
make the small (Gotoh) style replacement for the tuners of some of the modern
basses, like Specters & Ibanez.  What kinda bass do you have?  With the Fender
one, mine was just a drop-in replacement for the original Fender tuner.  It's
just 4 screws...  It takes a few minutes after that to get the stop screw for
the low note (D) tuned right.  The installation & tuning instructions aren't
really great, but they were clear enough.

It took a little getting used to after that, but i've had no problems with it
since.  I'm going to order a couple more for my other bass and my friend's.

Hope that helps.  

--

"if god wanted us to vote he would've given us candidates."
						-Ice-T
"Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball."
From: slgsn@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Maiden tab.
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:10:11 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

I want the tab. to "Innocent Exile" by Maiden. Send if you have it...
-Dave
Get the 5...
%!!$C
From: gse9k@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Bass for $500 ?
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:54:11 GMT
Reply-To: thrash@virginia.edu (Scott Evans)
Organization: or lack thereof


>I'd like to pay $500 (can$) up to $700.
>I want a bass which has quite a lots of capabilities...
>I mean, i play all kinds of music, and so, i
>wanna have  all kinds of sound, jazz,funk,blues,rock....
>and i don't know anything about pick-up.


My personal (and biased) recommendation would be Ibanez.  You can
get a SG800 for about $550 US.  And they play and sound great, if
you like a "modern" sound and feel (very punchy sound, very 
narrow neck).  And if you've got a little more cash, you could go
for an SG1000 or an SG885 (which I don't really know anything 
about--anyone?).

Also, Yamaha makes some good affordable basses.



scott
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: mojo@reed.edu (Marx Marvelous)
Subject: Re: First bass
Organization: the Fortran Shell
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:48:38 GMT


As regards being left-handed, I find it makes a lot of sense to have my
stronger hand on the neck of the instrument.  This leaves me with the problem
of crummy right-hand technique, of course.  But I think left-handed people
ought to try playing "right-handed," and switch if that feels wrong.

What's a good starter bass?  Depends on your musical interests and financial
status.  I bought a hollow-body Gibson for $125 at a pawn shop and have been
really happy with it, but I play mostly jazz and fusion.  In the more
modernistic realm, I think some of the new Peavey basses are supposed to be
pretty good, and people have said good things (and some bad ones) about
Hohner's Steinberger copies.  Ultimately, you just have to settle on a bass
you can afford and like, which is a highly subjective sort of thing.  But
pawn shops are good places for unexpectedly low prices, for whatever that's
worth.

	NT
-- 
------------------------------------------------
|Turn off your mind, relax and float downstream,/                 Nathan Tenny|
|It is not dying...                            /                 mojo@reed.edu|
                                                -------------------------------
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: jimlynch@netcom.com (Jim Lynch)
Subject: Re: The Bottom Line
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:54:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.223932.16691@fcom.cc.utah.edu> wortjody@u.cc.utah.edu (Jody Worthen (ISU)) writes:
>  
>
>I've just recently regained internet access, and I seem to have lost
>the address to subscribe to "The Bottom Line". If some one would be
>so kind as to e-mail me this information, I would be grateful.
>
>thanks...
>
>wortjody@u.cc.utah.edu
>
>-- 
>Flame me or Blame me                        | wortjody@u.cc.utah.edu
>but don't think I speak for                 |
>anyone else!                                | 


 
                     / \
                    /  /         -
              _--__|  /         | |        / \
________--__-     O  ---  ____  | |        \  \            / \
=======/-/=======| |)          O ---  ___   \ |           /  /
======/-/=====================| |)          O---  ___    |  /
=====/-/===================================| |)         O--- ___
====/-/================================================| |)       -__
___/_/        _|_  |     _     ___         ___  __|__   _   \__ __    \
___\_\\-_      |   |_   / \    |  )   __  | | |   |    / \  |  |  \    \\
 \\\\\\\\\-_   \_/ | \  |--    |--<  /  \   |     \_/  \_/          _   |\
              \    |  | \__    |   \ \__/   |     ____    \  o \/\ |_\  /\|
                \_             |___/     ____---\\\\\\|    \  \ \ \ \_  /\|
                  \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\---   \_   \  \ \    _/\/
                   \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\------             \_  \    __-\\\/
                                                            ---\\\\\\\-
 
 
 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
To post:                           Subscriptions, deletions, requests:
   bass@uwplatt.edu                   bass-request@uwplatt.edu
  (Bitnet: bass@uwplatt.bitnet)      (Bitnet: bass-request@uwplatt.bitnet)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
---
There ya go.
From: urban@mcl.ucsb.edu (Stylin' Jefy B)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Purchasing tips
Summary: Need help purchasing bass guitar.  What do I look for?
Keywords: bass
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:57:24 GMT

I am interested in purchasing a bass.  I really haven't played much,
but I'm thinking of trying it out.  Can someone quote me a reasonable
price for a used 5-string bass?  I've always enjoyed the sound of a
fretless, but I've heard it's hard to learn on when starting as a 
novice.  Are there any special things I should look for or take into
consideration before purchasing one?

Jefy

Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass,alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
From: webb@chopin.udel.edu (W Webb Pickersgill)
Subject: Re: Bass for $500 ?
Organization: University of Delaware - What state is that in?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:17:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.234725.28166@reed.edu> mojo@reed.edu (an open subset of the blackboard) writes:
>
>Hohner makes Steinberger-like basses more cheaply than Steinberger; since I
>can't stand playing headless basses, I've never looked at them very
>seriously.

	I had a Hohner before I bought my Factor, and I was not happy
with it.  At first I thought that it was the coolest thing ever because
of the shape.  Well, in all reality, its not worth it.  The real
Steinbergers are though.
	Hohners didn't do anything for me, the action was too off and
the neck adjustment was too unpredictable.  One day it would be fine and
the next, impossible.  Just my $.02
						Webb

+-------------------------------+---------------+-------------------------+
|   ___    ____                 | Factor Hartke | webb@chopin.udel.edu    | 
|  (   `--'  .-'         ___    |  Samson GHS   | Webb Pickersgill        | 
|  |8) O O  ||||||||||||||[_-~) | Ibanez A.R.T. | (302) 837-1861          | 
|  (__.--.__| Kubicki Factor    |   Digitech    | Bassist For:Seven Wishes|
+-------------------------------+---------------+-------------------------+
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: mojo@reed.edu (an open subset of the blackboard)
Subject: Re: Bass for $500 ?
Organization: over the Merlock Mountains a long and weary way
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:47:25 GMT


I'm not sure how much instrument prices differ between the US and
Canada; what follows is based on US prices.

Carvin makes basses in the $500-700 range, about which I've heard good
things said; certainly they're well-made and are known for being playable,
but I don't know what they sound like.

Hohner makes Steinberger-like basses more cheaply than Steinberger; since I
can't stand playing headless basses, I've never looked at them very
seriously.

Pawnshops sometimes have ridiculously good deals, but often they are on sort
of oddball instruments (like my favourite Gibson, which only cost $125, but
only has one sound---I just happen to like that one a lot).

I've seen used Rickenbackers in your price range, but, again, they're not
the most versatile of instruments.  Ditto used Fenders; a J-bass will always
sound like a J-bass, which is perfect if that's what you want.

	NT
	
-- 
Ya know, Reed is a pretty boring place if you're the only one in it.
	- David Thomas (florp@reed)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
     but I am...Nathan Tenny / mojo@reed.edu / tenny@euclid.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: jcherney@envy.reed.edu (Joel Alexander Cherney)
Subject: Advice on effects boxes
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:56:02 GMT
Reply-To: jcherney@reed.edu

I'm looking for a "box," or whatever it's called, for my bass.  I spent most of the summer  
playing around with my friends's GSP 21 Pro, and I'd like to know what's available in that  
area for bass?  Something less expensive, hopefully... the GSP 21 has WAY too many features  
for me to use! But I am looking for stuff like noise gate, compression, chorus/flange, etc.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: webb@chopin.udel.edu (W Webb Pickersgill)
Subject: Re: Advice on effects boxes
Organization: University of Delaware - What state is that in?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:34:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.225602.7990@reed.edu> jcherney@reed.edu writes:
>I'm looking for a "box," or whatever it's called, for my bass.  I spent most of the summer  
>playing around with my friends's GSP 21 Pro, and I'd like to know what's available in that  
>area for bass?  Something less expensive, hopefully... the GSP 21 has WAY too many features  
>for me to use! But I am looking for stuff like noise gate, compression, chorus/flange, etc.

	Well I can name some but I can't comment on them, I'll leave
that up to you other netters:

Korg A4:
Korg A5:
ART NightBass:
Ibanez PUE5B:
Ibanez PT3B:

Any Others??
							Webb

+-------------------------------+---------------+-------------------------+
|   ___    ____                 | Factor Hartke | webb@chopin.udel.edu    | 
|  (   `--'  .-'         ___    |  Samson GHS   | Webb Pickersgill        | 
|  |8) O O  ||||||||||||||[_-~) | Ibanez A.R.T. | (302) 837-1861          | 
|  (__.--.__| Kubicki Factor    |   Digitech    | Bassist For:Seven Wishes|
+-------------------------------+---------------+-------------------------+
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.makers.bass
From: pschwab@spanky.ece.uc.edu (Paul Schwab)
Subject: Slapping on a 5
Organization: Unversity of Cincinnati, ECE Dept
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:47:21 GMT


Does anybody else out there find slapping on a 5-string requires quite a
bit more concentration than a 4?

First of all, the low B, just dies after I slap it, so I avoid that entirely.
And second, the string spacing is so close, that it seems like my right hand
is all I think about (at the expense of both my left hand and my voice.)

Don't get me wrong, I love my 5, I just don't get into slapping like I
used to.

-Paul

BTW, it's a MusicMan Stingray 5, how do they compare to other 5's on
spacing?

-Paul 

-- 
Paul Schwab                   		- Paul.Schwab@UC.Edu
Computer Engineer    	      		- schwab@ucbeh.BITNET
University of Cincinnati      		- pschwab@spanky.ece.uc.edu
Electrical and Computer Engineering	- uunet!uceng!pschwab

Warning: DO NOT EAT THIS SIG.

This .sig consists of inert ingredients, although it is not poisonous, it
is not intended for human consumption.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: carls@Ingres.COM (Carl Stanley)
Subject: Re: Level 42
Reply-To: carls@Ingres.COM (Carl Stanley)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:00:29 GMT

In article <1380@ozz.oasis.icl.co.uk> cwa@oasis.icl.co.uk (Christopher Adams) writes:
>Why don't I here anything about Level 42/Mark King in this group?
>
>I thought he was one of the best.
>
I have been a big fan of Mark King for a long time - since I was living in
London.  If you can deal with the sometimes cheesy lyrics you can get some
great bass lines.  Mark King is probably one of the best slap bass players 
around, and his fingerstyle playing ain't to shabby either, although it is
pretty similiar to Stanley Clarkes.  He has a very percussive slap style 
(he used to be a drummer) and uses very light strings (for americans
anyway - he uses a .30 & up...).  He uses/sponsors alot of high-end equipment,
including Alembic, JayDee, Status basses & Trace Elliot Amps.  

The best way to enjoy Level 42 is to see them live - they put on a killer
show, and when Mark King takes his 10 minute bass solo your jaw will be 
a-flapping at his speed and dexterity on the bass.

Some good albums are Level 42 (Level 42), which has a great song Dune Tune,
which is a cool bass-fusion tune; World Machine (something like that) has 
some good tunes also.  Their latest release Guaranteed has Alan Holdsworth
plaing some fiery solo's on it & Gary Husbands playing drums.  

I think their best tunes are their no-lyric fusion tunes, of which there are
about 2-3 per album (less or none on their latest 2, however), and I once
made my own compilation album of those tunes so I did not have to listen to 
songs like "Starchild" (cool bass line, insufferibly cheesy lyrics).

just trying to convince musicians that Level 42 is a real band....

Carl Stanley
Ingres
Data Comm
carls@ingres.com

  I play in the SF-based band Fracture, which is thrash/grunge/noise/jazz/
						     funk/improvcore/metal..
From: pturner@sedona.intel.Com (Pete Turner)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Bass for $500 ?
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:26:58 GMT
Organization: WCDP
Originator: pturner@rowdy


In article <1992Nov16.145411.17134@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, gse9k@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans) writes:
[stuff deleted]
|> My personal (and biased) recommendation would be Ibanez.  You can
|> get a SG800 for about $550 US.  And they play and sound great, if
[more stuff deleted]
	
	I agree, Soundgear are great basses (FYI, they ranked *very* well in
	Bass Player's head-to-head "Play-off" review). But where did you find
	one available for $550? 

|> 
|> Also, Yamaha makes some good affordable basses.
|> 
	Personal opinion: I have yet to play a Yamaha bass I'd ever
	consider buying.

-- 
-- 
 ______________________________________________________________________________

 Pete Turner              | "I'm not looking back -- but I want to look
 Intel Corporation        |  around me now"
 5000 W. Chandler Blvd.   |
 M/S CH3-36               |  -- Geddy Lee/Neil Peart
 Chandler, AZ 85226       | ---------------------------------------------------
 pturner@sedona.intel.com | "...yeah, I've been to Phoenix...they call that
 ATT: (602) 554-8906      |  place 'The Valley of the Sun'...they should call
 FAX: (602) 554-7281      |  it 'The Surface of the Sun'!..."
                          |
                          |  -- Some unknown late-night comic
 ______________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
From: khisanth@wam.umd.edu (Mike Donovan)
Subject: Identifying a Les Paul
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:58:56 GMT


	I've been hearing about identifying years of guitars by their serial
number. Well, I want to try. It is a fairly new Gibson Les Paul and the 
number is: 92750358 . It says Studio on the headstock truss rod cover. But this
confuses me. From what I've heard, studio's are supposed to have dot inlays on
the fretboard, only chrome hardware, etc. But mine has the trapezoidal mother
of pearl inlay and gold harware. Along with gold pickup covers. It aslo does nothave the traditional white strip around the border of the body of the guitar.
This makes it appear smaller, though it is the same size as a standard. Please
help me identify this guitar. I think it is supposed to list btween $600-$900
but I'm not sure because I can't identify it. I bought it used for $300 and it
is in mint condition. Not even a scratch. I've had it for almost a year now.
It sounds great and has the smoothest neck I've ever played. I'd like to know more about it. Thanx...

-=KHISANTH=-
(khisanth@wam.umd.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.tab
From: smithw@hamblin.math.byu.edu (Dr. William V. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.tab
Subject: Re: REQ: The Last Resort by the Eagles
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:22:50
Organization: Brigham Young University-Math. Dept
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sofya.math.byu.edu
In-reply-to: bpadget@hubcap.clemson.edu's message of Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:48:27 GMT

The lyrics to "The last resort":
(I think there all here, not sure about the order ;-)
She came from Providence, the one in Rhode Island,
where the old world shadows hang heavy in the air.
She packed her hopes and dreams like a refugee,
just as her father came across the sea.
Se heard about a place people were smilin.
The spoke about the redman's way how they loved the land.
And they came from everywhere, to the great divide,
seeking a place to stand or a place, to hide.
Then the chilly winds blew down across the desert, 
through the canyons of the coast, to the Malibu,
where the pretty people play, hungry for power, 
to light their neon way and give them things to do.
Down in the crowded bars, out for a good time,
can't wait to tell you all what it's like up there.
And they called it paradise. I don't know why.  
Somebody laid the mountains low while the town got high.
Some rich men came and raped the land nobody caught them.
Put up a bunch of ugly boxes and Jesus, people bought
them.  And they called it paradise, the place to be 
The watched the hazy sun sinking in the sea.

You can leave it all behind and sail to Lahaina, just 
like the missionaries did so many years ago.  They even
brought a neon sign "Jesus is coming" Brought the white
mans burden down, brought the white mans reign.
Who will provide the grand design what is yours and what is mine?
Cause there is no more new frontier, we have got to make it here.
We satisfy our endless needs and justify our bloody deeds 
in the name of destiny and in the name of God.
And you can see them there on Sunday morning.
Stand up and sing about what its like up there. They call it
paradise. I don't know why You call someplace paradise,
kiss it goodbye.

Wheewww.

-Bill
--
EMail:  smithw@hamblin.math.byu.edu  or  uunet!hamblin.math.byu.edu!smithw
SMail:          Math Dept. -- 314 TMCB; BYU; Provo, UT 84602 (USA)
NeXTmail:                   bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu
Phone:            +1 801 378 2061         FAX:  +1 801 378 2800
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.tab