HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: joak@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jonathan A. Kung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Stupidest Mutant Power -- top this if you can!
Date: 26 Dec 1992 06:45:56 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
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I have a few more that I'd like to share, since I don't
pay anything to post besides registration fees.  (Oh gee,
is that all.)  :P

-The power to make other people (particularly muscular,
well-armed people) insanely enraged -- towards onesself.
(good for character assassination, though...
M:  "So, Mr. Presidential-Candidate, how are you today?"
PC: "Hrmm, argh, ARGHH!" [rushes M. amid a burst of flash bulbs])

-The power to generate the most foul odor imaginable, but
only within a two-foot radius of one's head.

-The power to perfectly mimick one's own speech.

-The power to make those around onesself register as mutants
on a mutant scanner.

-Jon Kung, whose own power is the power to babble (I've had
quite a few power-boosts, though)
From: joak@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jonathan A. Kung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Stupidest Mutant Power -- top this if you can!
Date: 23 Dec 1992 04:35:42 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
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phi@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Aeleck) writes:
>How about the mutant ability to _NOT_ register as a mutant on mutant scanners?
>That's it, nothing more?  Would that qualify as the _STUPIDEST_?

Hey, that's my original Stupidest Mutant Power -- top this if you can!
(the ability to fool things into thinking one's a human)

-Jon Kung, hmph!
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: Stupidest Mutant Power -- top this if you can!
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 00:22:03 GMT

starman@crash.amigans.gen.nz:
>:>Secret Identity: Buck Von Tiffany
>:>Power: Can control anything beginning with the letter "V".
>: 
>:This power is better than almost anything the major teams have...

>do you mean thay should vector the velocity of Venus into the very volume
>of the interstellar menaces thus causing vandalism on there vital bits.

No.  Why do you ask?
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From: mab@wdl39.wdl.loral.com (Mark A Biggar)
Subject: Re: Why Stryfe being a clone would be a major diappointment
Organization: Loral Western Development Labs
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:51:17 GMT

In article <18DEC92.15798498.0219@VM1.MCGILL.CA> CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP000) writes:
>It just dawned on me: suppose after all this business with
>Cable/Nathan/time travel, it turns out that Stryfe *is* nothing but a
>clone of Cable.  What would have been the point?  Couldn't they have
>made Stryfe be a clone without going to all this trouble?

Given the hints droped, I think it's much more likely that Cable is a clone
of Stryfe (or at least Stryfe thinks so).

--
Mark Biggar
mab@wdl1.wdl.loral.com
From: jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Larry Trask: America's Most AntiMutant
Date: 23 Dec 92 20:40:43 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP000) writes:
>In article <1992Dec20.230911.26018@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:

>>Just to set *your* record straight, TRASK had his mind melded with MasterMold,
>>as revealed waaay back in Hulk Annual #?
>>
>That wasn't TRASK.  That was Dr. Stephan LANG.

Duuuuh, wooops.

Yeah. Of course it was. I don't know what I was thinking.

(I'm now exhibiting my Stupid Mutant Power (tm) to become very
red about the face.)

			Jamesa Willer
[any opinions above are already registered with the federal government]
From: jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Jamie's origins (was X-Factor Credits)
Date: 29 Dec 92 23:53:45 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>or traumas, it works. Why? Because PAD has set it up well--this issue kept
>everybody in character (and established your "take" on Val, too). Had it
>ever been established before that Jamie lived with his two dead parents,
>or did you come up with that? I don't ever remember hearing that before.

Yes. It could be extrapolated from his first appearance (in Giant-Sized
Fantastic Four #4 which I purchased from a newstand, he says proudly
dating himself).

It was explicitly stated that he lived alone on the farm with his parents.
There were no other people for miles around.
At some point his parents died, and he lived alone until his costume burned
out and he made his way to the BigCity.

				Jamesa Willer
[this space for rent]
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From: eng10471@nusunix1.nus.sg (SHIO LING HWEE)
Subject: Why was X-force Captured?
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 06:41:48 GMT

Hi !
With all the talk about CABLE/STRYFE/NATHAN thing going in this net,  
I would like to ask a question about another thing.

Why were the other X-folks, in the beginning of the X-Song Storyline,
going after X-Force?

If it was Cable( STRYFE) they were after, they could have just asked Sam
and The Gang about him. Why do they have to imprisoned them like
criminals?

X-force are not criminals, since all they have done is attacked some
the MLF, saved some hostages from Juggy and Black Tom, and defended when
attacked by the Evil Brotherhood and Shield. That doesn't make them
outlaws. If it does, the X-Men, Warriors and countless other teams would
qualify too. Even if they believe the press and Gideon's version of
events (in Sabotage), I doubt that the X-men, defenders of justice,
would persecute 'Force without listening to their side first.

Which brings me to another point. What gives the X-Men the right to
imprison citizens of the U.S. ? (granted S.Star and Feral are undefined)

Are they guilty until proven innocent? Has the X-Men signed a contract
with the government allowing them to arrest, try and imprison enhanced
superhumans ?

Thanks for listening outthere. I just wanted to add in my thoughts
about one of the many holes in the storyline

.....................SAM
                      Dep of Elect. Eng.
                      National U. of Singapore.
From: gmf2@quads.uchicago.edu (gary michael feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Factor #85
Date: 22 Dec 92 03:38:44 GMT
Reply-To: gmf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

SO PAD, when do you follow-up on that Magneto dream Lorna had way
back when the new team started?????  I was so hyped when you
said I was right (other netters insisted that it was Mr Sinister).
I find the relationship between the 2 vdry intersting (and Zaladane
for that matter).

Gary
From: CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP000)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Larry Trask: America's Most AntiMutant
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:08:37 GMT
Organization: McGill University

In article <1992Dec20.230911.26018@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:
>CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP000) writes:
>
>>> TRASK the guy who made the master mold, and some of his own memories are in
>>> it was a Precog Mutant, he predicted who the 12 would be, it was no quess not
>>> how he saw it at the time (but of cause that was before some new characters
>>> were created)
>>>
>>Just to set the record straight, TRASK died waaay back in Avengers #104.
>
>Just to set *your* record straight, TRASK had his mind melded with MasterMold,
>as revealed waaay back in Hulk Annual #?
>
That wasn't TRASK.  That was Dr. Stephan LANG.

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From: jdelisle@udel.edu (J. G. Delisle)
Subject: Re: Why was X-force Captured?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Boyz from the Dwarf
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:53:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.064148.27604@nuscc.nus.sg>, eng10471@nusunix1.nus.sg (SHIO LING HWEE) writes...
>Hi !
>With all the talk about CABLE/STRYFE/NATHAN thing going in this net,  
>I would like to ask a question about another thing.
> 
>Why were the other X-folks, in the beginning of the X-Song Storyline,
>going after X-Force?

	In part 1, Stryfe shot Professor X, and identified himself as Cable.
That _really_ ticked off the X-People (and most of X-Force).

>If it was Cable( STRYFE) they were after, they could have just asked Sam
>and The Gang about him. Why do they have to imprisoned them like
>criminals?

	Because X-Force is wanted by SHIELD for some stupid reason that drove
a plot device.

>X-force are not criminals, since all they have done is attacked some
>the MLF, saved some hostages from Juggy and Black Tom, and defended when
>attacked by the Evil Brotherhood and Shield. That doesn't make them
>outlaws. If it does, the X-Men, Warriors and countless other teams would
>qualify too. Even if they believe the press and Gideon's version of
>events (in Sabotage), I doubt that the X-men, defenders of justice,
>would persecute 'Force without listening to their side first.

	If SHIELD considers you a criminal, you are one. That caused a _lot_
of problems for Rogue between UXM 182 and 185. It's all Cable's fault, so
let's be glad he's gone, and hope he doesn't return to the pages of 
X-anything for a long time.
	And the X-Men were considered outlaws and publicly ridiculed for a
LONG time. It was their deaths in the Fall of the Mutants that started 
changing peoples' minds, not their "good-guy" act. Since then, people have
been a lot more tolerant of mutants. 
	And yes, the X-Men would ignore X-Force's side... they aren't allies,
they're just people who happen to be mutants and share the letter X.

>Which brings me to another point. What gives the X-Men the right to
>imprison citizens of the U.S. ? (granted S.Star and Feral are undefined)

	The involvement of SHIELD and Val Cooper gives them the right. Prof.
X promised Val that he would detain X-Force. I think that's in the new issue
of X-Men...

	Joe Delisle

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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Stevie Hunter (Re: X-Force #19)
Date: 30 Dec 92 14:12:26 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <C01DM1.27s@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jbeason@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Joseph E. Beason) writes:
>Jean roomed with Misty Knight, who was a ninja-cop-type who huing out with
>Colleen Wing. I think they called themselves the daughters of the Dragon.
>Misty went out with Iron Fist (I think), a Caucasian martial artist with
>a mostly-green costume.  Iron Fist used to run with Luke Cage, I believe
>they had a comic together.  Colleen dated Cyclops during that short period

The comic was "Power Man and Iron Fist" in the mid-70's.  Namor (in the new
title) tied up some Iron Fist loose ends in a story that includes Colleen
and Misty.

>back before the Dark Phoenix days when the main body of the X-men thought
>Jean and Hank were dead and vice-versa.
>

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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David R. Henry)
Subject: Remember Booster Gold? Why, he still owes me money!
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 06:01:54 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>HAve any of you remember the comic book Booster gold
>Great comic book, it ran till 25
>wasnt too popular.
>I think he is in the Europe League of Heros

I think he may very well be. But you've wandered into the wrong part o'
town, chum. This 'ere's the Mutant Ghetto. While we welcome all comers
(heh heh heh heh...), you'll probably find more answers to your question
over in rec.arts.comics.misc. Besides, hang around mutants too long and
you start developing... an overwhelming >sigh<...

sense of, well, angst. Oh, how I long for the days that I could write
with my head held high! But no, I am forced to ...


Ahem. Sorry. Anyway, good luck in your quest.

"Before you cross this Sea of Fate, you must answer me these Questions
	Eight."

	
-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - "I have a pullchain in my head." -- RIII
My mind is a jackal.--Richard Darwin // What was the question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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From: thor@lcc.edu ( Thor Alexander )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Factor 87
Date: 25 Dec 92 03:35:14 GMT
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Organization: Me Organized... banish the thought.
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	Finally got a chance to read X-Factor#87:

Thought the story was a nice change of pace.
Really starting to like Quicksilver, which is a big step since
I've loathed his character for sooooo long.
Kicked my self when I saw who the shrink was at the end.

Q:   What happened to the "X-patriots at the Hospitol" story line?
I mean poor trade-papperback editors at Marvel are going to have
to rip the X-patriot scene out of issue#86 when they go
to put out next (years?) X-Song Trade-Paperback and then this
issue there is no mention of them.

Thought the art looked like Joe Q. was drawing in the
style of Larry Stroman.  This seems to be a trend at Marvel
lately (in both X-Men & X-Force & Cable LS).  And while it makes sense
( or $ ) for marvel to stick with popular styles that sell
books, I wonder how the new artist, drawing in the shadow
of their predecessors, feel about not be able to (develop and) use
their own style.  Seeing JRjr's style on Cable really made me take note.

*  Someone come and remove my foot from my mouth if this IS Joe Q's
*  normal style - Never had the opportunity to see his previous work. 

			*** Thor ***
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From: ntprlr@eskimo.com (NightProwler)
Subject: Re: X-Factor #85
Organization: Ghost in the Shell
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 00:07:58 GMT

Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com wrote:
: (...)  The key to what's going on in Lorna's mind is when she's
: saying, all in a rush, "I'm *not* afraid to take chances, etc.".  *That* is
: what is really on her mind...the idea of letting down her guard with people.
: The weight thing is merely a manifestation of that.

Ah.  The way I read that segment was that Lorna was trying very hard to
convince herself that she did in fact feel that she was "*not* afraid to take
chances..."  Whenever I hear someone emphatically stating something, it tells
me that they're a) evangelically proud of their position or b) not totally
convinced of their position, and are trying to reassure themselves.  Since
Lorna seemed so distraught, I assumed that it was b).

: It's also combined with all these women I know who have terrific bodies, but
: instead announce that they're cows.  Women in the Marvel universe seem 
: curiously disinterested in their physical appearance.  They always have 
: terrific bodies, they are always perfectly made-up...and I know so many women
: who are *not* like that, that I thought it would be refreshing to make
: Lorna atypical of the Standard Marvel Female.

Herein lies the crux of the issue: are the characters meant to be portrayed as
Heros or as individuals thrust into heroic positions?  There is a gaping
difference between the two.  It seems that Marvel has made a bundle of money
on the supposition that the latter is the case (the whole 'angst' flavor of
most of the X-Books).  Issue #87 seemed to be very much in this same vein.
However I beleive that in Lorna's case the issue went beyond angst and right
into paranoia induced depression....Which may be justfied.  It's my contention
that Lorna is just in need of a serious reality check.

I'd hate to see Lorna's character sink any deeper into the quagmire of
depression that she seems to be slipping towards.  It would be interesting to
see how her character holds up under the stress, but....it would be somewhat
depressing to watch.

{reading back over this, I realize I'm treating a fictional character as if
she were a living, breathing individual.  I need to go out and purchase myself
a life....}
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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David R. Henry)
Subject: Re: Fantastic Four No. 7 (Prices??)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 06:07:32 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>I have a Fantastic Four No. 7, with a Slightly torn and wrinkled cover that
>has been sitting in a protective skin for about 12 years now. I,m Wondering 
>if any one would have a guess on a price value for it.

Hmm.... must be visitor week over here in xbooks.

Well, luckily for you, sir, I'm one of the acknowledged world authorities
in grading comic books. I have a degree in it from Wattsamatta U, Miskatonic
Branch, even. So, just hold that puppy up to the screen here and I can
tell you...

Yes... yes, ah, good! Yes, very good!
OOPS!

Sorry, didn't mean to sneeze all over it. Don't worry, I've heard grape
jelly just cleans that stuff right up.

Anyway, I'd be willing to offer you, oh... hmm, $1,200 for that Fantastic
Four issue. Of course, less my professional consulting fee of $2,155, that
means you owe me almost a thousand dollars. Pay up, pal, my accounts are
lean, mean, and recently paroled.

Of course, if you want some actual second opinions, you may want to try
rec.arts.comics.marketplace, where people trade and discuss market values
of comics all night long.

"I never drink... blood." --Richard Darwin, in "Vorgoth"
-- 
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My mind is a jackal.--Richard Darwin // What was the question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: FAQ: X-Men Characters
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 04:23:35 GMT

In article <03JAN93.23357955.0063@VM1.MCGILL.CA> CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP000) writes:
>Cable: FA: (as Nathan Summers) UX #201 (as Cable) NM #87
>       Cable is Nathan Summers, the son of Scott and Madelyne Pryor,
>      after having been sent to a future by Scott and Jean and raised by
>      Askani.  Cable and Domino are romantically linked.
>      Proof that Cable is Nathan from X-Force #18:
>      1 page 2:  Cable is called Nathan Dayspring Askani'son.
>      2 page 4:  Cable is called "a failed attempt to preserve a life".
>                 Clearly, Cable is not a robot.
>      3 page 10: Cable is called "rebel savior". That was to be Nathan's
>                 destiny.
>      4 page 17: The genetic matrix shield was programmed for the
>                 Summers (family) DNA.  Again, Cable is not a robot but
>                 the son of Cyclops. (Note from page 31 that the Summers
>                 family DNA was promised to Mister Sinister).

All of these clues also fit the theory that Cable is a clone of
Nathan, instead of Nathan.

>Lilandria: FA: UX #97

"Lilandra".

>        Jamie can make and control up to 40 duplicates of himself.

39.  (Be careful how you phrase this.)

>New Warriers: Chord, Firestar, Marvel Boy, Namorita, Nova, Night Trasher

"Warriors".

>      due to cosmetic surgury and training by the Japanese assassin's

"surgery".

>Silver Samuri: FA: Daredevil #111

"Samurai".

>      of Trustees at Massechusetts Academy as well as co-leader of the

"Massachusetts".

And probably others I missed....
--
"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Leftover Turkey!
On the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Turkey Casserole
    that she made from Leftover Turkey.
[days 3-4 deleted] ...  Flaming Turkey Wings! ...
   -- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu/A*gic bait)

Ken Arromdee (arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu, arromdee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu)
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From: jmw20@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Joshua Michael Wolf)
Subject: Re: Stupidest Mutant Power -- top this if you can!
Reply-To: jmw20@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Joshua Michael Wolf)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:42:29 GMT

In article <BzMMC0.IM2@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> phi@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Aeleck) writes:
>In <BzJGtM.Ctu@ns1.nodak.edu> dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes:
>>Now, to turn away from the fantasies of games to the real world of comics,
>>I always thought the worst mutant power would be the mutant power to
>>register as a mutant on mutant scans. No powers to go along with it, you
>>just register as a mutant.
>
>
>How about the mutant ability to _NOT_ register as a mutant on mutant scanners?
>That's it, nothing more?  Would that qualify as the _STUPIDEST_?
>
>Also, on the note about the x-ray visions varieties....
>I thought of a rather neat power, not to be classified as a stupid one.
>It is the ability to see through anything except a solid or liquid!
>In other words....no matter what quanity of light, darkness, fog, etc,
>the person can and will see.
>
Actually, this power would do more harm than good.  Not only could you not see
through fog (which is, I think, a form of a solid), you couldn't see through
glass or water.  Some characters DO have heightened sight, like Hawkeye.
Sorry to burst yer bubble....


Josh
From: jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to... EVERYBODY!
Date: 3 Jan 93 01:12:22 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David R. Henry) writes:

>Well, almost. Here's a quick rundown of the last time that I can remember
>some of the supporting cast we've been wondering about...

>PHILLIP MOREAU -- aka "the NASA guy." While I don't think he's dead, the
>	last time I remember him clearly was in issue #158, where he's
>	helping test Carol Danvers' abilities after Rogue stole her
>	powers. I haven't seen him around since.

Wasn't the "NASA guy" named Peter Corbeau?
I thought Phillip Moreau was the "Genosha guy". (So Genosha is the island
of Dr. Moreau?	I-) )

					Jamesa Willer
[any opinions above are already registered with the federal government]
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 31 Dec 1992 18:50:30 CST
From: Noel B. Lorenzana <U38134@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: ***X-men comix wanted to trade***

Sorry to post this here, but...

I AM LOOKING TO TRADE X-MEN COMICS.

THESE ARE THE ONES I NEED:
      131-133, 139, 140, 178, 206, 210-216, 219-221, 226-228,
      233, 235, 237-242, 253, 256, 258, 266-270, 272.

I HAVE THESE TO TRADE:

      142,143, 144-161, 163, 164, 167, 168, 169, 185, 194, 195,
      262, 275, 277, 278.

Most are nm. send replies to u38134@uicvm.uic.edu

Noel.

.