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From: stephen@glas.rtsg.mot.com (Stephen Shortland)
Subject: Re: Binding more than two characters for command line editing
Organization: Motorola CIG, Cork, IRELAND
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 09:01:57 GMT

In article <lentz.718032296@charm.gandalf.ca> lentz@gandalf.ca (Jim Lentz (Wheeling Tech Support)) writes:

> 
>  I had hoped with Coherent 4.0.1 that I would be able to bind three characters
> to up-history and down-history. I wanted to use the up arrow and down arrow
> keys respectively. Bind only seems to bind the first two of three characters
> that i define. I want to have the same functionality that I do here at work
> with tcsh. If someone has gotten that working well with Coherent please let
> me know. Thanks!
>  

Another tcsh fan!

Here is how I got it working - in your .profile add the following:

bind ^[[=prefix-1
bind ^[A=up-history
bind ^[B=down-history
bind ^[C=forward-char
bind ^[D=backward-char

bind ^I=complete

I am using the standard keyboard, et al. The above has worked
perfectly for me, and doesn't seem to have any nasty side affects. The
final bind command binds the tab key to the complete command - just
like tcsh.

Stephen...
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From: paradox@cats.ucsc.edu (Paul Mooser)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: My problems installing Coh4.0 ...
Date: 13 Oct 1992 00:44:03 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu
Summary: no fun
Keywords: troubled installation


I posted a week or so ago about "giving up" on Coherent. I've gotten
enough responses offering help that I'm ready to give it another
try. 

----

My system is an AMI EISA 486-DX50 with AMI-BIOS. I've got 8 megs of
RAM, 2 floppy drives, and a 170MB Connor HD (IDE).

When it gives me the '?' prompt, I type "info". If I don't, "begin"
fails and gives me the following. 

	"Installation/Update kit booted incorrectly."
	"When booting, you must boot via "begin" or "update"."
	"Please reboot and try again..."

So, after I type "info" and then "begin", things work well ... 

Until:

"Do you want to create a new COHERENT filesystem on partition 0 [y or n]?"

When I respond with a 'y', it works for a while, and then spits out the 
following:

	"fd0: head=0, cyl=1 <Overrun>"
	"/etc/build: command "/etc/mount /dev/at0a /mnt" failed"
	"Hit <Enter> to continue..."

Now, a side note. The disks are NOT defective. I tested them out by installing
Coh4.0 on a machine that I've got running downstairs. It installs with NO
problems. Unfortunately, I can't keep it on that machine. Back to the
story ...

After I hit "enter" ... 

	"fd0: head=0, cyl=1 <Overrun>"
	"/etc/build: command "/etc/mount /dev/at0a /mnt" failed"
	
And then it spits out "fd0: head=0, cyl=1 <Overrun>" forever ... and
occasionally ... will say something like ... "cannot find echo" ... or
"cannot find sync" ... 

It just gets stuck at this point. You cannot go any further. I am at
a loss at this point ... 

If any of you can give me some suggestions, I would be more than happy
to try them out.

Eventually, I just reset the computer, because the cycle of printing out
the message "fd0: head=0, cyl=1 <Overrun>" never seems to end.

-Paul
From: olaf@kwcom.in-berlin.de (Olaf Matthaei)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: tin
Organization: Communication KWH Germany,KW  
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 92 17:14:15 -1

olaf@kwcom.in-berlin.de (Olaf Matthaei) writes:

>Hi!

>On today I use TIN , its work fine !

This is only a test of nn.
From: ben@bailey.UUCP (Ben Bailey)
Subject: Re: Some Questions about coh.
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:58:48 GMT
Distribution: comp.os.coherent
Organization: Ben Bailey's Home..Tampa Fl.

I have two hard disks with both a dos partition and a Coherent partition.
On one drive, I set up Stacker for dos.  On the other dos drive, I left
Stacker off.  I left Stacker off the 2nd drive so that I could use the
Coherent dos?? commands to move files to/from Coherent to dos.  If you
were to make all dos drives Stacker, it wouldn't cause problems with
Coherent, but it would cause problems with moving files between the
two operating systems via the dos?? commands.

Stacker stores all files in it's control in a compressed format.  It is
then run each time you retrieve or store a file in order to compress
and uncompress.  Since the Coherent dos?? commands aren't running under
dos, the Stacker compress/uncompress wouldn't be invoked.  In the case
whereby you moved a file from Coherent to dos via doscp, you would end
up with an uncompressed file on a drive that Stacker was expecting to
be compressed.  It would then attempt to uncompress it.  In the reverse
situation whereby you wanted to copy a dos Stacker compressed file
to Coherent, you would obtain a Stacker compressed file on the Coherent
system.

Ben
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: ayub@krypton.Stanford.EDU (Ayub Butt)
Subject: ELM on raven.alaska.edu
Organization: Stanford School of Medicine
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:12:21 GMT


Dear netters:

I was looking for an E-mail package for my Coherent 4.0 system and 
someone suggested that I can FTP it from raven.

On the raven.alaska.edu in the /pub/coherent/sources32 directory,
I located about 14 files named elm.zipaa, elm.zipab,......elm.zipan.

Thirteen files are of same size i.e. exact 50K each. One file (elm.zipan) 
is around 22K.

I was able to ftp all these files to one of my system, however, the file
elm.zipaf is not getting transfered completely, i.e my ftp session hangs
while transfereing this file. I have tried several times but something
is not right. Only once, the ftp completed the transfer but the file size
after it arrived on my system changed and became around 46K. What am I 
doing wrong?

The second question is assuming that eventually, I can get all the files
in their entirety, what utility can I use to 'reconstruct' ELM.

Finally, someone also suggested that ELM is not easy to deal with without
the manual and the its manual is available on the net also. Any help
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much for reading.

Ayub
From: bob@dalek.mwc.com (Bob Hemedinger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: cron update for 4.0 users
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:11:27 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

cron402.tar.Z has been added to mwcbbs. This is designed to fix
the reported bug where multiple cron daemons are fired off, leading
to filesystem corruption.

Also added was a minicom update, zman and ka9q.tar.

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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: What is i-node busy
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Udo Munk's private BBS
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 19:29:40 GMT

Michael Kreutzmann (michael@mkrbram.UUCP) wrote:
: Hi,
: 
: in the last time, I sometimes get a message >>i-node busy<< on the console.
: I take a look in the manual and there is no exact description what this error-
: message means. This only happens, if the machine has to do big work.
: 
: I use Coh4, a 386/16 with 2MB and two SCSI hard-disks on a Seagate ST02.
: 
: Is there a problem with my file-system or my disk-controller ? 
: What can I do ? 

Nothing, it's a know error in the filesystem which can be ignored.
It does not only occure on your hardware.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: buchanan@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (BUCHANAN TIMOTHY E)
Subject: fsck problem; pls help
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:15:13 GMT

On boot, Coho does its fsck. Recently, this began to report excessive dup
free blocks. When I answer y to continue? it goes to phase 6, salvage free
blocks, stops there, then reboots. It will do this until I abort. 

The system seems to run OK, but I am concerned. I have mailed mwc twice,
but have no replies yet. Could someone shed some light on what is going
on and if this is important?

thanx much,
Timothy.
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: ECSBBS will be closed soon
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Udo Munk's private BBS
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 19:25:32 GMT

Ralf Stephan (ralf@ark.abg.sub.org) wrote:
: joachim@jr.rhein-main.de (Joachim Riedel) writes:
[...]
: We must have an archive site in Germany  (I know, Udo, you give public
: access, but with 2400 bps...), and if I would be able to connect to ECSBBS
[...]
: Suggestions?

In december I'll get an 14.400 bps and a large SCSI disk. A controller
is already available. Some sponsores out there? :-) :-)
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: edi@edefix.han.de (E. v. Pappenheim)
Subject: Re: Coho 4.0.1 on a Toshiba Laptop...But, TERM problems
Organization: Private Coherent Site
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:37:33 GMT

X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Chris Taylor (cht@panix.com) wrote:
: Coherent 4.0.1 installs and runs great on a Toshiba T1800 Satellite laptop!
: 
: But...
: When I set my TERM environment variable to vt100, and log into a Unix system,
: everything is peachy until I try to use vi. I make sure that the host I log
: into has its' TERM set to vt100, too, of course. So I log in, start vi (on
: the remote host) and the screen goes blank! Ugh! This happens with ckermit 
: and mcu (that I got off raven.alaska.edu). I have tried this on two Unices,
: 
: The funny thing is, the systems accept keyboard input- I just can't see what
: is going on. I can quit the editor, logout of the remote, and return to
: Coho on my local machine- all blind. (I can hear the console bell beeping at
: all the right places.) Once back at my local machine, I have to reset to
: get my screen back.
: 
: So has anybody else observed similar problems? Should I get the systems
: to use some other TERM setup? Hopefully you Coho gurus can have a hint
: or two to shed light on this problem.
: 
: Thanks!
: 
: Chris Taylor

MWC: vi is broken in 4.0, please get the update from mwcbbs ...

Ecki


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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: root@rgm.com (System Administrator)
Subject: Thanks, but Im still begging :)
Organization: RGM Unix - Sacramento, CA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:34:53 GMT
Keywords: inews


Wow!  Readers in this forum have been SO HELPFUL with my news software problems!
I just wanted to say thanks to all!

The tips and scripts have brought the system around to sending and receiving
news PERFECTLY, except:

inews ALWAYS generates a 'failed post' message mailed back to the sender,
even if the post has worked normally.  These 'failed post' messages contain
absolutely NO error messages.  So far I've been just too dense to determine
where the problem is (just can't follow the script through all the traps &
exits).

Go on, show off your techno-studliness some more!

Thanks, fellow Coherent warriors!
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From: Randy_Wright@mindlink.bc.ca (Randy Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: lex
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:19:14 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

>Sun Oct 11 13:05:53 1992
>Message : #4628990    From: Brian Childs
>Address : brian@panix.com
>Group   : Usenet.comp.os.coherent
>Length  : 773 bytes
>Subject : lex dumps core
>
>Msg-ID: <1992Oct11.154029.28774@panix.com>
>Posted: 11 Oct 92 15:40:29 GMT
>
>Org.  : PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC
>
>
>I have just installed Coherent 4.0.1 on my 386.
>
>I was trying to create a simple lex program, but whenever I try
>to do a match using a repetition character (* or +) the compiled lex
>program dumps core.
>
>for example:
>------- test.lex ----------------
>%%
>hello   printf("hello found
");
>a*      printf("a's found
");
>-----------------------------------
>
>after issuing
>1) lex test.lex
>2) cc lex.yy.c -ll -o ltest
>3) ltest
>
>(I enter this as stdin)           (lex responds)
>hello                             hello found
>aaa                               **** CORE DUMP ****
>
>has anyone else noticed this behavior ??
>if so, what is the fix.
>
>Brian.
>
>*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Hi,
        I tried out you test.lex on my machine. It didn't dump core
        but then, I have a ton of core on the 386. The term a* that
        you used matches any input including a null string. In fact,
        the scanner doesn't even need ot see an end-of-line char after
        hello. I typed the word hello<enter> and I saw a zillion         "a's
found" scroll across my screen.         So, a* will be matched even if you
press no key on the keyboard
        and the input buffer on the scanner over flows.         Here's a fix:
        ---test.lex.2---
        %%
        hello
 printf( "hello found
" );
        a*
    printf( "a's found
" );
        ______________

        This will not dump core, but the a* will still match a line
        consisting of only <enter>. a+
 will require at least one
        a.

        Yours Truly,
        Randy Wright


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From: doug@ve6bc.uucp (Douglas MacKintosh, VE6BC)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: KA9Q TCP/IP bits
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 08:19:17 GMT
Organization: Amateur Radio Station VE6BC - Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Greetings Earthlings,

I am desperately seeking the KA9Q code that has been ported to Coh 4.0.
I know it's in /pub/coherent on raven.alaska.edu, but I need the filename. I
do not have FTP here, but I can have it done for me (that's why I need the
filename.)

Speaking of raven, is there a list of files that it contains? (specifically,
in /pub/coherent).

tnx and 73
Doug
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From: kwfriber@MTU.EDU ("", KENNETH FRIBERG)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: ka9q package
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:50:39 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>
Organization: Michigan Technological University

In article <9210121042.AA23086@tekeur.TNE> you write:
>Who is using the Ka9q package under Coherent 4.0 ?
>Who ported it to Coh 4.0 ?
>Is only the slip/ppp implemented or also the rest ( packet radio ) ?
>
>best regards, antoon milatz, pa3bwe

I have played with Randy Wright's port of ka9q.  He had checked out the
SLIP support, and the telnet and telunix servers, made them work, and
cleaned up the code a bit.  I tried it on packet, and it worked, but
tended to crash.  Here is what I found:

	telnet in and out work OK.
	telunix server (allows telnets to a login prompt) seems
		to work, but some programs crash.  I don't know
		why.
	ax25 connects out work.
	The ax25 mailbox locks up after asking for the subject line.
	NETROM appears to work.
	Ping works, but doesn't give an accurate route time.
	Finger server works.
	FTP works.

	The ka9q mail services (SMTP, etc) don't work with the
		coherent mailer yet.  A list of the files received
		shows up, and the files are transfered, but they
		never get stored to disk.

The telnet server allows incoming telnet sessions to connect keyboard
to keyboard.  The telunix server allows incoming telnet sessions to
get a normal login prompt.

73 de Ken n8pbe
From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu ( Hari Seldon     psychohistorian )
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Bootable floppy
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:06:33 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <13@colorne.UUCP> dfilip@colorne.UUCP writes:

>I need something explained to me :

>I am attempting to build a stand-alone boot floppy, so that if my hard disk
>crashes or is replaced, I will have something to boot from.

well heres a though (oh no i'm acually going to say something semi good
from aix =8-O

have the boot floppy make a ramdisk copy the kernal to the ramdisk,
transfer control to it, then continue the boot and copy utilities
to the ramdisk to be able to mount/recover from there.

>Yes, I do realize that I would need to copy whatever utilities I needed to
>the floppy, but I am not sure if I could get to them because once the system
>boots /dev/fha0 is NOT mounted.

bill pociengel
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: cm entry in termcap
From: root@mbsys.in.sub.org (Superuser)
Organization: Private
Date: 14 Oct 1992 00:06:57 MET
Keywords: termcap

Hello,
Does anybody know about the structure of the cm-entry in termcap ?
TNX in advance
        Markus
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Subject: Re: Thanks, but Im still begging :)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 12:53:35 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Keywords: inews

root@rgm.com (System Administrator) writes:

> inews ALWAYS generates a 'failed post' message mailed back to the sender,
> even if the post has worked normally.  These 'failed post' messages contain
> absolutely NO error messages.  So far I've been just too dense to determine
> where the problem is (just can't follow the script through all the traps &
> exits).

Which news system?

You could try invoking inews with "sh -x inews..." instead, and using copious
application of Ctrl-S to watch what happens. If you're using C News, you'll
want to comment out the parentheses and ampersand that causes most of the
work to execute in a subshell in the background.

						- k
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: joachim@jr.rhein-main.de (Joachim Riedel)
Subject: ECSBBS will be closed soon
Reply-To: jr@connie.de.convex.com
Organization: The European Coherent Support BBS
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 05:52:40 GMT

Hi,


Since Coherent 4.0 the count of users here in the box increased from 80 to
now about 220.
Due to the fact that MWC spreaded my private phone number in the small
installation manual my private phone is blocked at least one hour a day,
seven days a week with guys asking questions.

I do not have the time to do 1 hour phone support and 2 hours mailbox support
each day. Especially when I already worked 10 to 12 hours a day programming
software.

Therefore ECSBBS will be closed end of 1992.

The UUCP-access for the dozen users who supported my mailbox (especially those
friendly british guys) will still be possible even in 1993 !!!!


Cheers,

Joachim


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From: buchanan@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (BUCHANAN TIMOTHY E)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: fsck problem
Date: 10 Oct 92 15:40:53 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

If you see this as a repost, pls excuse; newsfeed at CU was down and may
have lost my first attempt. I have a problem with fsck, running at boot.
It reports excessive dup free blocks, then drops to phase 6, salvage after I
tell it to continue. It then does the reboot NO SYNC thing. It will do this 
over and over unless I abort fsck.

The system does not appear to have disk problems and is  running. What is 
causing this and how do I fix it?

txia,
Timothy.
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: grante@aquarius.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Does ustar work for anyone?
Reply-To: grante@aquarius.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards)
Organization: Rosemount, Inc.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:37:55 GMT

jboggs@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (John D. Boggs) writes:
: I'm trying to back up my entire hard drive using ustar, and it goes fine
: for the first two and a half disks, then it goes:
: 
: Not enough memory ./tmp/
: ustar: ./tmp/ : error opening directory (2)
: Not enough memory ./
: ustar: ./ : error opening directory (2)
: 
: I'm doing this as root, from / , and using 
:      
:       ustar -cvlf /dev/rfha0 .
: 
: Any and all suggestions (especially those that work!) are welcome.
: 

I ran into the same thing.  I tried two or three times, and it
happened in the same place each time.  I switched to gnu tar and did a
multi-volume backup, but when I tried to to a gnutar -t on the
resulting floppies it asked for the second disk, but couldn't seem to
find anything on it and eventually reported a read error or something
like that.  I have yet to do a successful multi-volume backup under
Coherent with anything except dump.  And I _hate_ dump.

This was all under 3.2 -- I haven't tried using 4.0.

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