From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,dartmouth.rec.tv.startrek
Subject: Re: Relics (mistakes) ***SPOILERS***
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:52:37 GMT
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crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow) writes:

>If you haven't seen the "Scotty" episode, beam out now...


>Overall, I thought it was a great episode.  I had no problem buying the
>way Scotty put himself into suspended animation with the transporter,
>but I did have some other problems with the episode:

>1.  How did they beam Scotty and Geordie out of the ship when its shields
>were still up?  Can they transport through the shields now?  Through 75
>year old sheild technology?  Did they beam them out after the photon torpedoes
>overloaded the shields but before the ship blew up (now that's cutting it
>down to the last nanosecond!)?

    No, you're right, they glossed over this. Although it wouldn't be
too hard to believe that current transporter technology could transport
through shields that were both 75 years old, and damaged to the point
where they were about to fail. A through-away line would have been nice.

>2.  I don't buy their getting the ship started again--if they could do that
>now, Scotty could have done it 75 years ago.  But if warp power couldn't be
>restored, it wouldn't have been that helpful.  Still, they should have
>explained it better.

    Remember that Scotty had the power conducer thingie that Geordi
brought with him from the Ent-D. This is where the extra power was
coming from to run the Impulse Engines. I really like the line about the
holding chamber design specs by Scotty. I commented during the showing
that it would be like working with the person who wrote your physics
text book. 

>3.  How did Scotty and Geordie know that the Enterprise would be in any
>condition to leave when they blocked the door open?  They could have
>opened it once and sent in a message, then proceeded when the Enterprise
>was ready--if they needed help getting out.

    That's just it. They didn't. They had no way of knowing that the
Ent-D was damaged in any way. All they knew is that it was inside the
Dyson Sphere and that they probably couldn't get out. So they did what
they could to open the door for them to get out.

>4.  I think they left out a scene where they restored power so that the
>Enterprise could leave orbit--I thought that was what they had to do
>within 3 hours, but I guess that they meant that they had to leave the
>sphere, though that doesn't really make sense.  And I suspect that once
>they had impulse power, they could have activated the door from the other
>side just as easily, though they would have suffered the same power
>interference that caused problems the first time.

    They definately blew the continuity of the episode by leaving this
out. There was no sense of time passage for the Ent-D indisde the
sphere. I remember noticing this right off, and was not very please that
main power had suddenly been restored. But they were running out of time
rather quickly with this episode.

>Still, I loved the episode--especially the scene in the holodeck.  I didn't
>think the old set still existed, but it looked like it was the same one.

    What I wanted to know, was how long did it take them to put it back
together again? A couple of the shots were obvious blue-screen
backdrops, and they were very poorly done, but the other scenes
certainly seemed to be the bridge of the original Enterprise.

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
   "You know Television has gone to hell when, with every commercial,
	 you find yourself hoping to see the Energizer Bunny."
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