HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Huge MODs
Date: 23 Dec 92 10:39:54 PST
Organization: TAP

Quoted from <8cy5VB1w166w@hogbbs.scol.pa.us> by crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble):

> and, occasionally, contain some "original" additions by me).  You can 
> gripe all you want, but I enjoy what I have been doing.  However, you 

    Well, that's the key thing. What I don't understand is why people
    who like the samples don't just go and buy the original source. I
    guess it's like the old question of why download GIFs if you can
    buy the magazine...

> Travis Prebble @ Heart of Gold BBS (814) 238-9633        ///  \
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From: gruel@midiline.la.ca.us (Nick Salvatico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Huge MODs
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 02:37:10 PST
Distribution: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Organization: MIDILine BBS - Altadena, CA - (818) 797-3285

From: crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble)
Subject: Re: Huge MODs
 
> Thanks for being offended.
 
 Sure.  No charge either. :)
 
> I have recently been guilty of uploading to amiga.physik a
> collection of techno remixes that I cranked out in the past few
> months, many of which I believe sound quite good.
 
 Okay, fine.  There's certainly no need to defend yourself.  My
statements were aimed at the files themselves not you.  I'm sure
I'd like you much better than the MODs. :)
 
> I admit that it takes very little talent to sit down and chop up a
> song just to rearrange it and hope it all sounds okay, but this,
> for me, is the first step to learning how to compose.
 
 Great!  Whatever gets ya going.  However, I still don't care for
them.  And if others do -- good.  You're getting some positive
feedback which will hopefully keep you going to the point where you
will be contributing original music.  Nothing wrong with that.
 
> You can gripe all you want,
 
 No, actually I can't, or more precisely, won't -- I do my griping
once, if at all, and that's usually enough for me. 
 
> However, you *can't* say that this form of music isn't just as
> difficult.
 
 Of course I can, however, not with any great conviction as I neither
compose original music nor do remixes as you do.  So I won't comment
either way (and, in fact, didn't in my first remarks either).
 
> I spend hours getting my samples cut perfectly, selecting which
> ones will be utilised and which won't.  It isn't just a walk in the
> park.
 
 Again, I'll have to just take your word for it.
 
> Another comment that I received said, "It's good to see that you're
> not afraid to use big samples in your mixes, no matter what the guys
> in c.s.a.audio bitch about.  If the bass thumps, that's all that
> matters!"  Which, for techno, is absolutely true.
 
 I always say there's a market for everything, so, do what you want to
do and as long as you're getting positive comments you can feel free
to completely ignore mine.
 
 As for large samples -- well, I could care less about the size, but
I'll always prefer higher quality instrument samples being used to
make cleaner, clearer original songs over huge chunks of CD tracks.
 
> Please, this is by no means an introduction to discuss why techno is
> or is not "music."
 
 No need to worry about me getting into this.  Discussing WHY some
music is "good" or "bad" is TOTALLY pointless, as it's all a matter
of taste, and as has been proven innumerable times in the past there
definitely is no use arguing taste.
 
 And, anyway, I do, in fact, like some techno -- the lighter stuff,
as well as industrial -- don't like hip-hop, hardcore dance/rave, or
rap though.
 
    o   .
 o .  o   o
   o .   .
  __:__:_
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: wunner@nova.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Guenter Wunner)
Subject: Re: Could you ripped ....?
Organization: TAT (Theoretical Astrophysics Tuebingen), U. of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 18:37:11 GMT

jbrown@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Justin William Brown) writes:
>In article <92357.145626E63257@TRMETU.BITNET> <E63257@TRMETU.BITNET> writes:
>>
>>     Could anyone ripped followings by means of some hardware aid?
>>        -The 4.th tune in Jaguar XJ-220 called Thrash Pig..

[stuff deleted]
>(BTW, no I don't know if it's still up, or where it would be, sorry :)

It's on wuarchive.wustl.edu in /systems/amiga/audio/music/st-nt/jagmods.lzh

	Lukas.

           *** "Fer sell cheep:  IBM spel chekker.  Wurks grate." ***
        *** Lukas Wunner, Hustadtring 143, 4630 Bochum, West-Germany ***
      *** lukas@trillian.tp1.ruhr-uni-bochum.de / lukas@134.147.160.21 ***
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Is separate channel editing possible?
Date: 29 Dec 92 17:38:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: glia.crystal.725650685
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: glia.biostr.washington.edu

I've just acquired PerfectSound 3 and have some ideas in my head that I am
finding out I can't do with the software.

I have 2 files, different sizes.

When I try to CREATE STEREO, one comes up either slowed down, or speeded up  
(depending on which file I choose first in the creation).  Yes, I *think* I
understand why this is happening... file size difference lengthens or shortens
the waveform of the added file.  (I can't explain it, I just understand it)

But, I haven't a clue how to lengthen the shorter file and position it so that
it unisons the larger one without losing the original pitch of either file.  I
wanted to try this for a practice piece, but there seems to be no capability 
to cut/paste ranges in different channels on the same stereo piece.

Is there software that does that?  Editing them as separate files would be 
grossly time consuming and not as likely to be accurate.  And I have several
ideas involving voice-overs on one channel overlaying music on the other and
then combining them into monaural..

No, not I'm not making mods.

Suggestions?

Thanks in advance!
Crystal
  ;>
From: johnv@acix.DIALix.oz.au (John Verhoeven)
Subject: Re: Digitizing from scripts..
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: 27 Dec 92 14:05:09 WST
Organization: ACix - Private UUCP Node, Cloverdale, Western Australia.

WALLY@UKCC.UKY.EDU wrote:
> I can't think of a way to currently use break to stop AGMSRS because
> unless the system is the same way each time, the process number will
> be different.  And I can't think of a way to use the 2.0 Status to
> be able to "tell" break what number.  (IE:  Status->variable, then
> break $variable)

Try something like this:

run Sound
wait 2
:c/showanim -c5 +4 Aces-0.anim 
echo >t:cmdname "COMMAND " noline
which >>t:cmdname sound
status >t:status <t:cmdname ?
echo >t:cli "`type t:status`" len 3
break <t:cli >nil: ?

This is something I use to start some music that accompanies an animation
and stop it when the animation is quit.
From: d2ser@dtek.chalmers.se (Svante Eriksson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: AC1D player ..
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:46:46 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

E63257@TRMETU.BITNET writes:


>    Recently I grabbed 'In the Kitchen' module composed by 4-Mat from
>    amiga.physik. The archive came with a player called AC1D. But
>    when I entered it as a command I got a dos message like:
>    Unknown command ac1d. Ain't that interresting? I would be less surprised by
>    Not an object module msg. My System is 1.3 and I am wondering if something
>    similar can happen when I run something belonging to upper versions..

  Actually, the `AC1D'-file is a valid loadfile, but is not intended
to be loaded directly from the shellprompt.  There should be a
ReadMe-file included in the archive that explains that the `AC1D'-file
is an external player for DeliTracker.  To use it, get DeliTracker
1.30 (later versions do not support 1.3), and put the `AC1D'-file in
your DeliPlayers-directory.  Start DeliTracker and make sure that it
has loaded the AC1D-player.  (It should show up in the listview in the
preferences window).  After this, DeliTracker will recognize and play
the module.

  BTW: The AC1D-format is just another packed PT-module format.

>    Godflesh.

...ser

--
     ///     Svante Eriksson -- Chalmers University of Technology
    ///    Internet: d2ser@dtek.chalmers.se   FidoNet: 2:203/123.42
\\\/// "I've got a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call
 \XX/  it a weasel!" -- Edmund, Duke of Edinburgh, aka the Black Adder
From: crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: New mix... Big mix... Crunch Mix.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 02:20:09 EST
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

Okay, there should be a copy of my new mix sitting on amiga.physik, so be 
on the lookout for the file RESIDUE.LHA.  It is a mix of "Respect Is Due" 
as mixed by DJ Nex.  NOTE: This is YABSM (Yet Another Big Stinkin' Mod).  
Also, there may or may not be a problem with the file (I think the tempo 
is set one off... If you have a copy with a tempo of 140, switch it to 
139).  There's nothing worse than archiving and uploading a file and then 
realizing that you forgot to fix that bit of "experimentation."

The file should be located in amiga/mods/pro.


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From: jbrown@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Justin William Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Could you ripped ....?
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:19:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: life.1h80otINN17v
Organization: /etc/organization
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In article <92357.145626E63257@TRMETU.BITNET> <E63257@TRMETU.BITNET> writes:
>
>     Could anyone ripped followings by means of some hardware aid?
>        -The 4.th tune in Jaguar XJ-220 called Thrash Pig..

I found a (large) archive with (maybe) all the mods from that game on
a ftp site awhile back (jagmods.lha or something like that).  I don't
remember seeing the game, but some of the mods were kinda interesting :).
I think the one you call "Thrash Pig" was originally called "Bloodthirsty".
That one is my favorite.  Not because I much care for headbanger-type
music, but because it's unique among mods; sure there are other headbanger
mods to be found, but none of them are very well done, whereas this
composer apparently knew what he was doing.  It's even more impressive
when you notice all the music comes from just 3 of the voices :).

-Maruku of (\/)ega(/\)atts
jbrown@gnu.ai.mit.edu
Marc Brown

(BTW, no I don't know if it's still up, or where it would be, sorry :)
From: divineg@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Glade Diviney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Re^2: TFMX
Date: 23 Dec 92 04:41:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: flop.1h8qm5INNs46
Organization: CS Dept, Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: prism.cs.orst.edu

In article <1C29A009MK@tron.gun.de> m_krok@tron.gun.de (Matthias Krok) writes:
>-> From: wunner@nova.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Guenter Wunner)
>-> Do you mean the Turrican remix on the Shades CD? No, it's a complete
>-> remix with several other themes and brilliant samples. Sounds
>-> absolutely brillig, much better than the TFMX or MOD versions.

>Oh god...
>These are NOT samples !!! These are sound from REAL synthesisers !!! Like the
>Yamaha`s and Casio`s etc... controllable by MIDI !!! This music has nothing to
>do with computers, except that one computer is used to controll these
>sound-machines !!!

  Hee hee... since when does a synthesizer have nothing to do with computers?
  Do Yamahas run on diesel or something? 8^)

-=Glade Diviney
  divineg@prism.cs.orst.edu
From: Eric_H_Gieseke@fcircus.sat.tx.us (Eric H Gieseke)
Subject: Re: Protracker? Versions and questions...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.27a beta (Nov 30 1992)
Date: 23 Dec 92 08:20:32 CST
Organization: The Flying Circus Amiga BBX, San Antonio, Texas


Get Pro-Tracker1.3...its the latest and greatest version from Amiga
Freelancers...Works fairly well under 2.0,and even multitasks..The MIDI
features are basic but it comes to making MODs it delivers..
ALso consider MED3.2, or OktaMED3.0,4.0 or 5.0 which are commercial but
have incredible MIDI capavilitys...
Laters!S.W./MegaWatts
/\/\/


*SideWinder the Camel Jockey Extrordinaire*
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From: jbrown@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Justin William Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Re^2: Re^2: TFMX
Date: 22 Dec 92 06:20:32 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu

In article <1C299016MK@tron.gun.de> m_krok@tron.gun.de (Matthias Krok) writes:
>
>Am I right: There are THREE versions of the TurricanII-Titlemusic:
>- the original TFMX-Module (I can`t get it cause it`s copyrighted ;-)
>- this NT-Module
>- your PT-Module
>On my harddisk is a module which is identified as a "Pro/Noisetracker-Module"
>by champlay... it`s 151KB big. Is it yours or is it the other module ?

Probably the other one; I never ULed mine to an FTP site or a BBS (because
I made it strictly for myself :).

>How is it possible to port a TFMX-Module to Protracker ??? and why is it twice
>as bif as the original ??? (I`m not very good in english, so maybe I didn`t
>understand you fully...)

Porting, in my case, was done by hand and ear (especially because it was
originally a 7-voice mod).  It was larger because I had to mix samples
together here & there to simulate 7-voices (because I only had 4 to deal
with).  Several people have asked me for the PT version I put together,
but it looks like the mod was on one of my now deceased disks (thanks
to a large speaker :).  However, I am considering remaking it, as I
believe I could make it quite a bit smaller than originally (but not
necessarily more accurate; the first one I did had very little noticable
differences :).

-Maruku of (\/)ega(/\)atts
jbrown@gnu.ai.mit.edu
Marc Brown
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: dm0@agora.rain.com (Jerry Sievert)
Subject: Re: 15K mod competition idea
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 13:23:19 GMT

Eric_H_Gieseke@fcircus.sat.tx.us (Eric H Gieseke) writes:

 
>COuld we have a limit for the size of Small MOD entrees..to say 30k?
>Thats standard PT MODule format.....OK and once we have a MOD or MODs

   I kind of like the 15k idea... in fact, I'm all for it... any other
   takers?

>composed,where should we send them to have them Judged??   hmmm Im
>talking from a non fip site access viewpoint...:( I'd still like to 
>participate though... :)
>Lates!SideWinder... *///\\\*     (((Stereo)))

>*SideWinder the Camel Jockey Extrordinaire*
>-- 
>Eric_H_Gieseke@fcircus.sat.tx.us
  

  -Jerry

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Organization: Middle East Technical University - Computer Center
Date: Thursday, 24 Dec 1992 12:36:14 TUR
From: <E63257@TRMETU.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: *** have you ripped...

In article <1992Dec22.052958.15048@tdb.uu.se>, m92mmy@tdb.uu.se (Mattias
Myrberg) says:
>
>In article 4838 Travis Prebble writes:
>
>>m92mmy@tdb.uu.se (Mattias Myrberg) writes:
>>> *Ohh* we're really impressed by your expert-knowledge, I bet
>>> soon you'll tell us about ACtion Replay too, eh ?  8^)
>>>
>>> Go bother people in c.s.a.intr !
>>>
>>> /Mattias
>
>>And we dare call IBM users arrogant...
>
>Who are you to speak on that matter ?
>

     He is my lawyer..

>Speak for your self :-P
>

   So can speak for me..


>/Mattias
>
>_______
>Mattias Myrberg
>
>m92mmy@bellatrix.tdb.uu.se

Alp




Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: thecure@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (matthew aardvarkious)
Subject: Re: Happy New Year - LONG LIVE THE AMIGA!!
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 14:17:03 GMT

tage@ac.dal.ca writes:

>        NOTHING TO SAY>>> JUST WANTED TO HAVE THE FIRST POST OF THE NEW YEAR!!!

Sorry sunshine, there are some parts of the world just a little ahead of you.

>    I lift my glass (in a drunken stupor) to all you Amigans out there while 
>playing 2 Unlimited at 300 decibles!!!!

*euh* that would explain it - playing '91 music in '93.

(and this arrived just around Jan 2nd...)

--
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A litany of saints and other ordinary men
Kneeling on the parquet
Whatever has gone wrong?
From: pgl@bbs.draco.bison.mb.ca (Paul Linton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Music-X
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 09:36:56 GMT
Organization: The Draco Unix System [BBS]

If anyone could spare the time, I'd really appreciate some info. on 
Music-X.  I'm thinking of buying it, but I have no idea what features it 
has.  Any help would be appreciated.


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From: v064qpfu@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Christopher S. D'Arrigo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Techno Mods suggestions and locations ???
Date: 27 Dec 92 20:18:00 GMT
Organization: UB


     Hi everyone,   

       I was wondering if anyone could help me with the names and locations 
     of some Techno mods that are out there. Any help would be greatly 
     appreciated !!! 


                                                 Thanks in advance, 
                                                      Chris 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: wunner@nova.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Guenter Wunner)
Subject: Re: 6k mod competition idea .
Organization: TAT (Theoretical Astrophysics Tuebingen), U. of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:26:43 GMT

<E63257@TRMETU.BITNET> writes:


>       I know somone who made a module less than 6k and which is
>       pretty good..
>       Alp

Yes, and while we're at it, I was planning to do a 0.5 KB MOD
competition. 8-) Who's interested?
	Lukas.

           *** "Fer sell cheep:  IBM spel chekker.  Wurks grate." ***
        *** Lukas Wunner, Hustadtring 143, 4630 Bochum, West-Germany ***
      *** lukas@trillian.tp1.ruhr-uni-bochum.de / lukas@134.147.160.21 ***
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: mglew@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Michael Glew)
Subject: audio programming without multitasking...
Followup-To: mglew@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Michael Glew)
Organization: Macquarie University, Australia.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:34:56 GMT

I'm writing a software package that sends frequencies to the audio port
in order to control an external device.  It seems that there is some
sort  of interrupt interference.  I want to shut off multitasking during
this period, and would like to know how to access the audio hardware
directly to:

(1)	set a two byte long sample of 128 then -128 (square wave)
(2)	set the freqency "randomly" between 200Hz and 1100Hz approx.
(3)	set the duration for 0.4 to 60.0 seconds
(4)	and have an error less than 1.0%

Example code in Pascal,Assembler,C would be welcomed by email. as would
references to common literature....

Thanx in advance... 8-)

Regards,

	Mike.
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 Internet:	mglew@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au
    Phone:	+61 43 841525

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From: gruel@midiline.la.ca.us (Nick Salvatico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re:Binaries
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 05:09:22 PST
Distribution: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Organization: MIDILine BBS - Altadena, CA - (818) 797-3285

 
From: m_krok@tron.gun.de (Matthias Krok)
 
>->  By the same token, not all of us are uninterested in these. I, for
>-> one, like getting a MOD from time to time here.  I also don't have
>-> any ftp access, only news -- others are also in the same boat.
 
> Then use ftpmail !!!!!!!!!!!
 
 That'd be great, but my host's ftpmailer is a bit flaky at best.
 
    o   .
 o .  o   o
   o .   .
  __:__:_
 ( gruel )
  \_____/

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From: miarmijo@nmsu.edu (Michael Albert Armijo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: ReqTools.lib??? HELP!!!
Date: 28 Dec 92 17:42:36 GMT
Organization: NMSU Computer Science

Having my Amiga for quite some time, I am very new to Amiga Audio.  I 
am trying to run ModMaster, but when I do I am told that I need 
ReqTools.lib in my lib dir.  So, I downloaded what I thought was
ReqTools.lib (ReqTools21 I believe), however, what it turned out to
be- to me- is various docs to ReqTool lib not lib it self.  Any ideas
or any help would greatly be appreciated.  I can be reached by email
at:

micarmij@NMSU.edu

I will also be looking for any responces to my posting.  Thank you!

		Michael Armijo
From: m92mmy@tdb.uu.se (Mattias Myrberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: TFMX
Date: 22 Dec 92 04:55:38 GMT
Organization: Alien Dreams Department
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

In article 4836 Matthias Krok writes:
>How is it possible to port a TFMX-Module to Protracker ??? and why is it twice
>as bif as the original ??? (I`m not very good in english, so maybe I didn`t
>understand you fully...)

Is there any interest in me uploading Andromedas Turrican-musicdisc to a site ?
(ALL themes from Turrican I&II except the jingles played when one finishes a level)

/Mattias

_______
Mattias Myrberg

m92mmy@bellatrix.tdb.uu.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: oowwoo@mixcom.com (Reed Taylor)
Subject: 8-channel EdPlayer?
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 05:47:12 GMT

I was woindering if there is an EdPlayer which can handle an 8-track
module from OctaMED or the like... If not (I don't think there is...),
is there a player that does read these modules/songs, which is "pretty,"
like EdPlayer?
If so, where can I ftp one or the other?

Thanks!

-- 
+----------------------+----------------------------------------+
|      Reed Taylor     | "...It was raining, which was normal.  |
| zarniwoop@mixcom.com |  A spaceship landed, which was not..." |
+----------------------+----------------------------------------+
From: divineg@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Glade Diviney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Sample Creation...
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:29:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: flop.1h84sfINNi38
Distribution: world
Organization: CS Dept, Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: prism.cs.orst.edu


  What sorts of sample generators/editors are out there right now?  I'm
  looking for a program that can create complex waveforms, mix them,
  distort them, etc.  I remember a commercial program called "FM" that did
  some creation (didn't allow any editing, though.) It makes some nice
  sounds, but doesn't work with 2.04 (shame shame).

  If someone here knows about this kind of program, could they post a review
  about it?  If no one has, maybe I'll take PH331 (Physics of sound) and
  write my own....

-=Glade Diviney
  divineg@prism.cs.orst.edu