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From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Why do people like spicy-hot food?
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:37:21 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

Book recommendation: Peppers by Amal Naj - one of those long rambling New
Yorker magazine essays by a fellow who refused to eat peppers throughout
his childhood in India (where just about everyone eats peppers, as I
understand) and then got hooked on them while he was a student in Ireland.

If you can't imagine how that could happen - read the book!

Stef
stef@apple.com
---------
In the 17th century, Kikaku, one of the ten disciples of the great Japanese
poet Basho, composed a haiku:
Take a pair of wings 
From a dragonfly, you would
Make a pepper-pod.

Basho told Kikaku: "That's not a haiku. You kill the dragonfly." Kikaku
recomposed the lines:
Add a pair of wings
To a pepper-pod, you would
Make a dragonfly.
                                     --Amal Naj, PEPPERS
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Milk Pail Closed -- NOT!
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:45:07 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies

In article <1992Aug18.161746.24912@kronos.arc.nasa.gov> chucko@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Chuck Fry) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.143500.16596@ads.com> charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>>BTW, you can now get frozen Jose's empanadas at the Milk Pail Dairy in
>>Mountain View.  I'm gonna miss the Milk Pail when I move to Sunnyvale <sob>.
>
>You don't have to move to Sunnyvale to miss the Milk Pail.  I went by
>this morning looking to pick up some milk, and it was obviously
>closed, with a "For Sale" sign out front.
>
>That's what I get for spending a week away.

Sigh.

Chuck, the "For Sale" sign is for the awning.  The Milk Pail Dairy is
alive and well, and they're not going anywhere.  It's still a great
place to get milk in reusable bottles, Haagen Dazs, chocolate, coffee,
cheeses, and a lot more.  It's a very pleasant alternative to the
Safeway across the street.

(I called them, 941-2505, to confirm and to let them know some people are
confused by the sign.)

Charleen
--
Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice doggie" until you can find a rock.
                    -- Will Rogers
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: kxbehni@srv.PacBell.COM (Keyvan Behnia)
Subject: Re: Discovery: Tambo Cafe in Berkeley
Reply-To: kxbehni@srv.PacBell.COM
Organization: Pacific Bel
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:19:51 GMT

In article 929358656@derrida.postmodern.com, mcb@derrida.postmodern.com (Utah Saints rule!) writes:
>I am probably going to get slaughtered for revealing somebody's secret
>restaurant hideaway, but my discovery of this place was just too
>fortuitous to ignore.
>
>The place is the Tambo Cafe, on the east side of Shattuck Avenue in
>Berkeley, a few doors north of University Ave, across the street from
>--
>Michael C. Berch  
>mcb@postmodern.com


the Utah Saints , the Tambo Cafe , Anthony Scallia's boyhood diary

are no secrets safe.
 
I used to eat at this little Peruvian Jewel when I had a French class at Berkeley. The three
big pluses for this place were the nice folks that work there, the tapas and the prices. it is cheap and more importantly for the price it is a great diversion from the everyday tastes. I have tried most of their menu of that time. The enteres which are large are more hit or miss than the tapas which are standard latin american. they are more homemade than exotic. There is a good version of Milano Saltado (Breaded Steak), there was a very good tongue dish, there was a overly rich chicken with yougurt and n


uts dish. All the entres are huge and none costs more than $8.50. They also have that firey Green Salsa made with loads of cilantro that I can never have enough of.

What ended happening is us grubjunkies engaged in double headers. Meaning that we would go to Tambo to have brooskis (beer) with our fill of appertizers, then walk down the street across Universtiy to a Cambodian place called Cambodiana which has one of my favorite dishes in the bay area. It is called an Angel Steak, a piece of top sirloin grilled rare but ever so crusty on the outside with a hot and sour paste. It is just one of those things that tastes heavenly everytime you try it. I have never seen thi


s at other Cambodian places. Let me know if you have. Anyhow, we would eat our main course and desert here and then head into the endless Berkeley night knowing that nothing can put you in a good mood like eating a good cheap meal.

Keyvan



Newsgroups: ba.food
From: kkillen@ssf-sys.ssf-sys.dhl.com (Karleen Killen)
Subject: Re: Good restaurants in Pacifica/Half Moon Bay?
Reply-To: kkillen@babel.ssf-sys.dhl.com (Karleen Killen)
Organization: DHL
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:07:13 GMT

Try Pacifica Thai in Pacifica.
Newsgroups: ba.food,rec.food.restaurants
From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Subject: Re: Any good restaurants in Pacifica/Half Moon Bay?
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 19:24:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.141733.3397@igor.tamri.com> viviana@igor.tamri.com (Vivian Aldridge) writes:
 [ stuff deleted ]
 
>My favorite spot to eat in the area is the Shorebird Restaurant in
>Princeton-by-the-Sea, about 5 miles north of HMB. 

they also have a _great_ brunch on sundays - the ladies get a flower

>Further north, one comes to the Moss Beach Distillery.  Perched on
>the edge of a cliff overlooking the water, Moss Beach serves up a
>variety of seafood.

check on their opening times - they have a nice bar area too that serves
up quick foods and appetisers - note: the place used to be known as
a rum-runners stop - it has some great history 
>
>In Montara, another 5 minutes or so up from Moss Beach, the ever-
>popular Chart House stands guard over the south end of Montara State
>Beach. 

mixed emotions about this place - personnally think its overrated
>
>San Benito House, right on Main St. in HMB. 

food is good - San benito is the old name for HMB
>limited seating.  The clam chowder is decent.
>


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From: ted@airplane.sharebase.com (Ted Marshall)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Sushi Chardonnay & Isobune (was: We Be Sushi)
Keywords: sushi
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:57:14 GMT
Reply-To: ted@airplane.sharebase.com (Ted Marshall)
Distribution: ba
Organization: NCR/ShareBase Corporation

In article <71393@apple.Apple.COM> jeremy@Apple.COM (Jeremy j. b. nguyen) writes:
>We also recently went to Isobune in Nihonmachi (SF).  The quality was really
>exceptional, especially for a local boat-place.  (What's the official nihongo
>word for this kind of sushiya?)  The bill was $120 for four people, but my
>wife and I probably consumed about $80 worth by ourselves, so it's not cheap
>even though we're sushi pigs.  They're having an anniversary celebration
>(through August 31, I think) and you can get a huge beer with a set of "tasting
>glasses" for about $3.50.

There is also an Isobuni in Burlingame. I've always felt that the quality
there was much better than Isobuni in Japantown, SF. Of course, it's been
several years since I've tried it in Japantown so they may have improved.
In any case, and especially if you're coming from the south, I recommend
the Burlingame location.

-- 
Ted Marshall                             ted@sharebase.com   (408)369-5574
NCR Corp. (ShareBase Div.)             2055A Logic Dr., San Jose, CA 95124
The opinions expressed above are those of the poster and not his employer.
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Why do people like spicy-hot food?
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:13:17 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <71445@apple.Apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>Book recommendation: Peppers by Amal Naj -

I used to have a mail order catalog called "Mo Hotta' Mo Betta'" that was
loaded with hot sauces, peppers, and everything spicey.  I can't seem to
find it though.  Does anyone have the address? (Mike?)
-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: chilton@crc.ricoh.com (Jeff Chilton)
Subject: Indian or Meat-less (HELP!)
Organization: Waldo Fudpucker's Flea Circus
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 16:18:16 GMT


   Sorry folks,

    I know we did both these recently, but I just wasn't paying
    attention.  I'd like to take a non-carnivore out for dinner tonight,
    and indian food sounds perect.  The only problem is, I'm tired of
    the same old places. (same old = Sue's Kitchen, Mumtaj, India
    Cockroach House, and Gaylord's of India (Gaylord's is pretty good, but
    not much meat-less stuff and way expensive).  I also know of (but
    have not been to) Dahlik's(sp) in Sunnyvale(?).
  
    I'd also like to not stray too far, so Mt. View, PA, Los Altos,
    S'Vale, Menlo etc. area sounds good.



     Please HELP MEEEEEEE.  (I'm so indecisive)


     Pre-gracias

                 -J-
From: babcock@manticore.Eng.Sun.COM (Gigi Babcock, Mgr IBM Connectivity)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: laguna beach
Date: 15 Aug 92 01:32:41 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: manticore

Not exactly bay area but I hope you folks can help anyway.
Any recommendations on good dinner places? Prices are no concern.
We would be fairly casually dressed though.

Thanks.

--
------------
Gigi Babcock babcock@Sun.COM 
Sun Microsystems, 2550 Garcia, Mailstop MTV14-204, Mt. View, CA 94043
From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Where to eat is South San Francisco?
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:49:50 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.

In article <1992Aug18.195149.8844@leland.Stanford.EDU> jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:
>
>	A friend and I are going to be meeting in South San Francisco on Wed
>evening, and would like suggestions for a place to eat.  We're going to be 
>going to the Century Plaza Theatres, so some place nearby might be nice, but
>it's not essential.  
>	We're looking for some place that's casual, relatively inexpensive,
>and perhaps ethnic in some way shape, or form--   (Italian, Middle-eastern,
>Mexican, Vietnamese, whatever).
>
>	Please respond with e-mail, unless you think this might be of more
>general interest to the readers of ba.food.
>
I used to like Darby Dan's in SSF - its on the frontage road by the highway
great sandwiches (deli style) and in the back - great hamburgers
also, on main street in SSF is a great little Mexican restaurant (can't
think of its name)

further down, on the opposite side of the hwy, closer to burlingame
are/is restaurant row - overlooking the bay - there's Charlie Brown's,
El Torito, ????, and the Coyote Point club



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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey)
Subject: Re: Looking for a *quality* grocery store
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 19:44:16 GMT

In article <JET.92Aug18115944@win30.nas.nasa.gov> jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>
>Where are all the yuppie/granola grocery stores I heard so much about
>before I moved out here?  I live in MV (near rengstroff and central)
>and all I've seen are Safeway's (ick) and Lucky's (double ick, but
>they have good prices on rene junot).  I've been to Country Sun (?) on
>California in Palo Alto, and they're ok...
>
>I don't know how to explain exactly what I'm looking for except to say
>that in Houston I liked going to Auchan's (french hypermarket), Rice
>Epicurian, and Whole Foods (expensive and anti-union, but good
>produce).
>


	You might want to try Mollie Stone's, which is further up on California
than Country Sun.  It's a big supermarket type place, but a little bit more
gourment and a little bit more "crunchy" than a Safeway or a Lucky's.  I think
their bulk spices/flours/etc. are good and well-priced.   
	You also might want to check out the Oakville Grocery at the Stanford
shopping center.  It's very gourment oriented and very expensive, but they
do have a wonderful selection of cheeses, of pates, of olives, of oils, of
breads, of desserts, of deli goods, and a decent selection of wine as well.
They don't have any fresh produce or meat, but the Monterrey Market and 
and Schaub's meats are right next to Oakville.  The Monterrey Market has
a terrific variety of stuff, both fresh and dried, and their prices are 
good.  Schaub's Meat is your standard butcher shop, with your standard 
assortment of meats, poultry, and fish.  What really makes Schaub's 
distinctive is their large selection of sausages, including such things as
duck sausage and apricot-ginger chicken sausage.
	I've not yet been to Draeger's in Menlo Park, but I have heard good
things about it.
	There's also a Petrini's in Sunnyvale and another in Redwood City,
but that's awfully far too go, IMHO.
	I suspect there is no relation between the Whole Foods Market that
you went to in Houston and the Whole Foods market on Emerson in Palo Alto,
but you might want to check it out anyway.

	Good luck and good eating!

	--  Jim C. <jchokey@leland.stanford.edu>

Xref: sparky ba.food:2736 soc.veterans:881
From: jimj@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones)
Newsgroups: ba.food,soc.veterans
Subject: Re: Req: Horse and Cow.
Date: 17 Aug 1992 14:52:51 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: cleanplate.ebay.sun.com

In article <1992Aug15.173839.1@fnalb.fnal.gov> maxwell@fnalb.fnal.gov writes:
>Is the Horse and Cow still in biz?
>Is it still the same ol' (ss)/biker joynt it used to be? 
>wondering.max 

If you're talking about that dive up along I-80 in Vallejo with the 
submarine on the roof, it was still there the last time I looked.  I can't 
tell you if it's the same old place, because I've never been a customer
and never plan to be one.  

If you haven't been there since early '80s, be advised that the
_big_ submarine is gone from the roof.  They now just have a small one
perched on top of the sign. 

Jim Jones
Newsgroups: ba.food,rec.food.drink,alt.beer
From: dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman)
Subject: Re: Soliciting Opinions on Tied House "Mini-Kegs"
Organization: The Spud Goodman Show
Distribution: ba
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 17:32:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.235734.2031@crc.ricoh.com> chilton@crc.ricoh.com (Jeff Chilton) writes:
>
>   What a silly keg.  The pump goes on the top, and the spigot out the
>   side at the bottom. If you want to keep it cold this creates some real
>   problems.  What we did was put it in a plastic tub and add ice as
>   usual, but in order to attach the spigot, we had to cut a hole in the
>   side of the tub near the bottom, put the keg in the tub, attach the
>   spigot, then fill the tub with ice.  In all it took 3 engineers to do
>   this (which means probably one non-engineer or 25 managers :-)).
>
Is this a Golden Gate style keg?  (Except for the ease of cooling,
I still think these have it all over the ball-seal type now in
favor by major brewers.)  The only thing I don't understand is the
pump on top -- this kind of keg is gravity-fed, isn't it?  If you're
looking for a Golden Gate keg cooler, there must be millions of them
lurking around out there.  I was really bummed when the breweries
changed to the cylindrical ball-tap kegs - they're too big around to
fit into the carefully crafted refrigerator-turned-keg-kooler I
built - even the pony kegs!  Grrr!  Anybody want a 1962 Kelvinator
with four holes in it? :-)

-- 
David Breneman            #################          Historical revisionism:
The Spud Goodman Show      ####### #######           Elvis Presley was a joke
dcb@rosedale.uucp           #####   #####            A washed-up has-been.
 ..uunet!camco!rosedale!dcb      (_)  - - - Ciao.    Then he died... The King!
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: cko@cory.Berkeley.EDU (KO CHUNG HOON)
Subject: King Yen
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 11:20:14 GMT

I have been an avid subscriber of ba.food for some time and during my nightly
perusal of ba.food I have encountered many article relating to various Chinese
restaurants around East Bay.  Personally, I am surprised that nobody has
mentioned King Yen located in College Avenue at Berkeley.  King Yen simply
serves one of the most delicious Chinese dishes around the area and unlike some
other cheap Chinese restaurants, the place provides enjoyable dining ambience.
Its outdoor dining area can be a lot of fun with chance to enjoy scenes of
College Avenue unfolding in right front of your eyes, for the area is located
right next to the sidewalk.  King Yen is not a big, hugh place but it is big
enough to feel at home with great service and especially great food!  The
address is  2995 College Avenue (510-845-1286).  There is also another King
Yen located in 4080 Piedmont Avenue (510-652-9678).  You will see a lot of
patrons just walking in while taking a walk browsing many delightful shops
located in College.  It is hard to find parking but in Berkeley, this is no
revelation.  Enjoy!

Xref: sparky ba.food:2810 rec.crafts.brewing:4751
From: carole@peregrine.Sun.COM (Carole Parker)
Newsgroups: ba.food,rec.crafts.brewing
Subject: Re: Gordon Biersch, Palo Alto
Date: 20 Aug 92 06:15:58 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: peregrine

In article <Bs40Fw.Erv@taligent.com> tom_santos@taligent.com (Tom Santos) writes:
>Re: Gordon Biersch, Palo Alto
>
>How did you get the yeast from Gordon Biersch?  Who did you ask?
>
Ask Gordon.

Gordon Biersch has a Brewers Brunch on Saturdays.  A tour of the brewery
given by Gordon, himself, lunch, and a beer tasting session.  Call Gordon
Biersch for details on time, etc.

Information from Ed Falk.


I found myself. See? I'm right here! Until later--

Carole Parker
From: leej@sgi.com (Lee Jones)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Steak places in South Bay wanted
Keywords: steak south bay
Date: 14 Aug 92 01:12:20 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

Somebody mentioned Garden City before but I'll give it another plug.
At some point in the (near?) future, the restaurant location will be
moved to give more space to the cardroom (a long and interesting 
story in itself).  Anyway, enjoy the location while you can.  Big
A-frame building, subdued lighting, and good jazz playing while you
eat.  For ~$20, you get a prime rib that will fill you for dinner
and leave enough for a big prime-rib sandwich the next day.  They
also have a NY Strip Steak that's made from a special lean beef -
supposed to be better for you (by red meat standards :-).  I usually
find I can't pass up the prime rib when I eat there.

Desserts are also spectacular - try the deep dish apple pie.

Regards, Lee
From: jbrdc@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (David C. Brock)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Looking for a *quality* grocery store
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:43:50 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Chevron Oil Field Research, La Habra, CA.

For produce, there's the Monterey Market (Berkeley, also Stanford
Shopping Center).

--Dave Brock
From: hunt@squid.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Hunt)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: late-night coffee?
Date: 18 Aug 1992 02:00:54 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: squid

My step mom (mom Jr.) works graveyard shift.

She commutes from Burlingame to San Carlos.

She is looking for any espresso machine on the way, open around
11-11:30 pm.  No, 7-11 isn't quite what she wants.

Any ideas?  I told her about City Pub in Redwood City, but that
is an extra four miles out of the way.

Any ideas?!?

--
jim hunt@Eng.Sun.COM		yatta yatta disclaimer
George Bush is 68 years old and Dan Quayle is an idiot.
In '96, George Bush will be 72 and Dan Quayle will still be an idiot.
From: cole@unix.SRI.COM (Susan Cole)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Bindel's: good fancy Monterey restaurant
Date: 18 Aug 92 03:35:06 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California


If anyone is looking for a nice restaurant with "ambience" in Monterey, I can
recommend Bindel's.  My dear friend and I ate there a couple of weeks ago.
It's a historic house turned into a fancy restaurant, but still decorated
more like a house than a restaurant.  There's a bar downstairs, and I think
all the dining is upstairs.  There seemed to be fireplaces in more than one
dining room.

I had mahi-mahi, stylishly undercooked but with a salsa that complemented it
beautifully , and my friend had a pasta with a wonderful cream sauce.  We also had
two fancy, expensive (~$5 each) desserts -- one a fruit tart and the other
ice cream in meringue with fudge sauce.  With a beverage or two and an
appetizer, the bill came to $70 for two including tip.  Of course, if you
drink wine, all bets are off  :-)  The service was very good.

So all in all, I'd go there again for a special meal!  (Although looking at
the recommendations of others, I think Fresh Cream is the next place I'm
going to try in Monterey.)

Bindel's is at 500 Hartnell Street and their phone number is (408)373-3737.


- Susan
-- 
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From: lmtra@uts.amdahl.com (Leon Traister)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Good restaurants in Pacifica/Half Moon Bay?
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:09:54 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Aug10.174237.21815@igor.tamri.com> viviana@igor.tamri.com (Vivian Aldridge) writes:
>
>Can anyone tell me about good restuarants in Pacifica-Half Moon
>Bay region? I enjoy all types of food (Thai,Italian,Japanese,
>European, fish etc). I'm looking for a moderate price range
>$12-$15 per person including wine (no dessert), and a restaurant
>that is more on the informal side, but yet has some sort of
>ambience.
>

Ah, some sort of ambience.  Okay, try Barbara's Fish Trap at Princeton
Harbor, a few miles North of Half Moon Bay.  It's basically a shack
out over the water with some very nice seafood, indeed.
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