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Date: Wed,  4 Nov 92 12:30:39 MST
From: cheopr@bones.et.byu.edu (Chem. E. Operator)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Subject: Re: Pepsi State vs. BYU, Marshall Faulk vs. BYU





>MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu (Spiro the Spiny Goldfish) wrote:
>}
>}Again, mark my words - Pep$i $tate'$ total rushing yardage against BYU
>}will be greater than that of SDSU.
>
>Let's see, Pepsi State amassed a grand total of 101 yards rushing
>on 33 carries in this game, compared to Marshall Faulk's 299 yards
>on 35 carries and San Diego State's 310 total rushing yards.
>
>Maybe it's just me, but 101 yards doesn't seem greater than 310
>yards.  In fact it seems to be considerably less.
>
>Perhaps our PennHead friend would care to explain this 
>discrepancy, and also to clarify what it was about Marshall Faulk's
>299 yards rushing and 3 TD's against BYU that he found "typical".
>
>-- 
>Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
>
>       "Death wears a big hat, 'cause he's a big bloke."    


I think Faulk is a good (not great) running back, but one reason Faulk had the yardage he did against BYU is that two of BYU's starting linebackers (a major part of the defense) were injured, and not playing.  Sorry SDSU, you aren't as good as you think.

Darrell

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: john@makesys.com (John Turman)
Subject: BJ Hobert just wants to have funds
Organization: Make Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:17:15 GMT


In article:u.1992Nov6.012518.25771, tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:

>Some specifics from the Seattle Times:

>	The loan was made by Charles Rice, a nuclear engineer from Idaho
>Falls.  It was arranged by Rice's son-in-law, Rudy Finne, a Seattle longshore-
>man and golfing partner of Hobert.  Rice had met Hobert only two or three days
>before he gave him the first of three loan installments.  When asked why he
>made such a large loan to a college student with no security, Rice replied, 
>"I thought he was a nice kid."

>Hobert said he originally borrowed $25K in April and spent it within a month.
>He said he bought a 1991 Camaro for about $9K, and used $5K to pay off his 
>wife's Blazer, and $2900 to do the same on a Hyundaihe already owned.  He put
>$1200 toward car insurance, spent about $1K on a semi-automatic pistol and 
>hunting rifle, and returned $2500 to a woman he had lived with briefly during
>his separation with his wife.  

>Hobert said he then went back to Rice for another $10K in May and $15K in 
>June.  He said he traded in the '91 Camaro for a '92 Camaro, added a $4K
>stereo system, and spent much of the remaining money entertaining friends.

>Hobert says he has been trying to sell the car for the past several weeks, 
>partly because his wife is expecting a baby in February.  He said he will
>have to file for bankruptcy if Rice calls for full payment of the loan, 
>which according to Hobert carries a 10% interest rate,

>"Chuck's been very lenient because he knows I have no money and blew all the
>money I had," Hobert said.  "If he wanted to, he could take my butt to the
>cleaners.  I'm glad he's a friend.  Hopefully, he'll wait till I get done
>with school and get a job before I can start making the full payments."

>GT

Gee if you're a regular reader of r.s.f.c you'd think this kind of thing only
happens in Miami. One question, does BJ Hobert originally come from Miami?
Just wondering since all I heard before the season was Miami this and Miami
that. Guess what Cane bashers? There are other schools who have problems too.

BTW is this the reason Arizona kicked Udubs ASS this weekend? UW is the best
team in college football--------NOT! At least Miami BEAT Arizona, UW couldn't
even do that.

Is this the "STATE OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL"? I'll answer that.... NO!

John T.
-- 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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..John "Dolphinatic" Turman...
From: wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: usc vs arizona
Date: 11 Nov 1992 20:45:02 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: usa
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Keywords: surprising

I guess someone is still waiting for Arizona to choke and lose because
USC is picked to win by 2.  I don't know what keeps Arizona down.  
I am pretty sure they will be picked to beat Arizona St. however.

But you have to figure this: a team that can beat Cal and Stanford on the
road, not to mention take out the #1 Huskies, and nearly beat Miami....
their problem is they tied pitiful Oregon State very early in the season.
I think OSU was their first or second game, but I don't think they have
been favored to win against a decent opponent since. 

It's the out of the blue up and coming teams that make the Pac ten so 
interesting to watch.

William F. Tell

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From: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Subject: Re: SEC East shoots itself in the foot
Reply-To: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:16:30 GMT

In article <Bx7wKt.1KG@encore.com> jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich) writes:
>mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:
>
>>In article <Bx63x1.F0v@encore.com> jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich) writes:
>>>
>>>A short follow-up. I evidently gave Auburn too much credit. They wanted
>>>Miami to play 2 games BUT both had to be at Auburn.
>>>Get real Auburn !!! When you post the numbers seen above come back to talk.
>
>>    Looks like auburn likes to play in their own sandbox almost as
>>much as Miami, huh?  A challenge is a challenge and it doesn't look
>>like auburn retreated.  (did I really say that?)
>
>
>What did you say ? What was the challenge ? 

    Well, you say that Miami asked Auburn to play them.  Auburn said
they would if they played in Auburn (according to you).  Who said no
to this?  Not Auburn.  It is kind of hard for Miami to be on the
receiving end of this sort of thing I'd guess.

--
Guy McConnell  guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com
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From: scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn)
Subject: Re: The mood in Bricker Hall about Mason
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:58:01 GMT

  I wrote:

   A Columbus Disgrace columnist wrote yesterday that OSU President Gordon Gee
   was asked about Glen Mason. Gee responded that he had no idea who Glen Mason
   was. Now, if you consider how hot the coaching issue is in Columbus, and you
   consider that Gee was the president of the U. of Colorado (Kansas' fellow B8
   school) before he came here, you have to assume that Gee is either
   completely ignorant, or he's lying to make a point. I choose the latter (Gee
   has about the same reputation around here for veracity that Bill Clinton
   does).

  David Nason replied:

   I heard the excerpt of the news conference that you're talking about - Gee
   was very obviously being intentionally facetious.
   [Details about press conference]

     David is right -- I should have looked into this a little further before I
accused Gee of lying. I should not have implied in my post that Gee is a liar;
what I was trying to say is that, like Bill Clinton, he has often had an 
interesting way of telling the truth. He doesn't lie about things, though, and 
I retract that comment.

                                        Steve
///
-- 
    Steve Casburn (scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
    They gave me differential calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    So they gave me integral calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    Now I have vector calculus, and...I'm starting to lose consciousness...
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Subject: Re: OU over OSU woof
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:36:13 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


There are some Aggie(Cowpoke variety) out there.  I was going to
make this a close game, but OU seems to have found a new attack
with the wishbone.  OSU has done a fine job of making use of 
turnovers(except in the KU game).  If OSU can create a few
turnovers, this just maybe their game.
--
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 1992 13:30:45 -0500 
From: Thomas Swann <ts3m+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Va Tech and UVa predictions
Distribution: usa

Charlie (or anyone else) - 

What exactly is the bowl outlook for Virginia under the two-win and one-win
scenarios?

What has happened to Bobby Goodman?

Thanks . . .

=============================================================================
Thomas H. Swann
ts3m+@andrew.cmu.edu
University of Virginia (commie 1988)
now appearing at GSIA (Carnegie Mellon University - 1994)
=============================================================================
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:22:32 -0500 
From: "Robert W. Jordan" <rj25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: TODAY'S LESSON: SPELLING "LOSE"

To all fellow college football fans and netters:

It seems that whenever people post messages on this net, and express how
a team didn't/won't win a game, they say something like this:

"Whether we win or loose this game, our team still had a great season."
                   ^^^^^
"Next year, our team will be loosing several key players."
                             ^^^^^^^
"Why would anyone like such a looser team?"
                              ^^^^^^
What is wrong with all of these lines?  The word "loose" means "not
tight" like in a knot.  Or like "He's wearing a loose-fitting jacket." 
"Loose" also means "free".  "A thief is on the loose."  Or, perhaps, it
is used when referring to women in a derogatory way.

However, "loose" DOES NOT mean "not winning a contest or a game."
The word "lose" means "not winning a contest or a game (or your keys or
your mind or whatever).

Soooooo, why don't we just not get so excited when we hit the "o" key,
and spell "lose" the way it should be, regardless of how bad our
team/their team lost, or regardless of our lack of grade-school spelling
knowledge.

Flame away.

Roob Joordan Karneggee Mellun Yoonivurcity
(Rob Jordan  Carnegie  Mellon University)
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From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (odagleD niveK)
Subject: Re: What's the Bowl picture?
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 16:57:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov05.022016.187411@zeus.calpoly.edu> aholdern@zeus.calpoly.edu (Andrejs Abolins Holderness) writes:
>In article <Bx74pA.JJB@ra.nrl.navy.mil> salas@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Miguel Salas) writes:
>>So far it's looking like the following:
>>
>>Orange Bowl:Nebraska/BC or ND?
>>Cotton Bowl:Texas/FSU?
>>Sugar Bowl:Alabama/Miami?
>Blockbuster Bowl: Penn St./Slippery Rock  would be a good matchup

Wow! I didn't think there was anyone else out there who had ever heard of
good old slimey pebble! I used to live there...can't remember what their team
was like...if they had one even!

>>Rose Bowl:Washington/Michigan
>>Fiesta Bowl:?
>>Citrus Bowl:? 

Kevin TSS

Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:20:12 -0500 
From: Myung Joon Choi <mc83+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Miami #1

I can't believe all of this anti-Miami sentiment going around the polls.
 What does Miami have to do to prove their worth as #1?  They beat
EVERYONE who is put in front of them (when's the last time Miami lost to
a #1 ranked team, Ithink they have a streak of 11 or 12 wins against #1
ranked teams they've played).  
    Take for example last year, going into the Florida St.-Miami game,
Florida State was the overwhelming favorite as #1, Miami was #2, and
Washington #3.  Miami beat Florida St. AT Florida St.  They also beat
Penn State and pummelled Nebraska in the Orange (they ended up having
beaten six bowl teams).  Who did Washington beat to deserve their lofty
ranking.  Gee, let's see. They beat an overrated Michigan team who
Florida St. crushed at Ann Arbor and they beat up on some other
opponents and even pulled out a dominating 14-7 victory vs. Cal. 
National Championship material, pleeeease.
    And this year, Washington overtook Miami when Miami barely beat
Arizona, and only regained it when they beat Florida St. and Penn State
in consecutive weeks.  Washington (bandwagon) fans jumped all over the
'Canes for that one, only to see their beloved Huskers get completely
shut down last weekend.  If things go as planned, Miami will have beaten
Arizona, Penn State, Florida St., Syracuse, San Diego St., and
Alabama/Texas A&M.  All this without their version of Steve Emtman in
Rusty Medeiras.  
 
    All I can say is, you may not like 'em, but you gotta admit they're
the best college football team in the country and have been for the last
decade.  
    And for all those whiners who complain about the close field goals,
stop looking for the weakest of arguments and suck it up.         
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From: chyang@australorp.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: It just can't be....
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 17:58:29 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: chyang@australorp.engin.umich.edu


In article <26055@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
> In article <CfA=Ak+@engin.umich.edu>, chyang@simile.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:
> > still win the PAC-10.  Is there any reason that we should feel ashamed 
> > because we lost to a team that have been focusing on this game for the
> > past two or three years.  No!  Should we take back any thing we said on
> 
>  2 or 3 years? Wanna run that by me again please.... exactly why have the
> cats been "focusing on this game" for 2-3 years???
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 			gln
> 
> 
> 

	Does 108 - 10 the combine score the last two years and Mauluulu's 
broken bone ring a bell?  

	Does Dick Tomey's word, "Everyone else in the Pac-10 is second 
class until someone beats the Huskies."  ring a bell?

- C. Yang
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From: quay@engin.umich.edu (bryan scott luedy)
Subject: Re: My Top 25
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 19:07:00 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: na

In article <92315.145310JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu> <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <XjB=-X=@engin.umich.edu>, quay@engin.umich.edu (bryan scott luedy)
>says:
>>
>>In article <1992Nov10.135342.10153@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
>>rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>>>just to add another poll into the works, i thought i'd post my
>>>vote to the rsfc poll, with a little commentary......
>>>
>>>1. Alabama. Roll f*cking Tide, Roll. No real reason to put them ahead
>>>            of Miami and A&M, but I dont like to move teams up on
>>>            an idle week, so miami has to stay at #2
>>
>>Yet you moved Alabama up?  Go figure.
>
>He moved Alabama up because 1.  Alabama beat LSU, and 2.  he felt like it.
>Both of which fall within his stated criteria--not moving up teams that
>coming off an idle week.
>

My point exactly.  They came off an idle week and then did not
impress against LSU.
 
--
Bryan.Luedy@um.cc.umich.edu
--


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From: tomscud@ruf.rice.edu (Thomas Reid Scudder)
Subject: Re: Open Question to Miami fans
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:05:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.132751.4957@news.nd.edu>, rszczerb@okeefe.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:
|> 
|> I'd like to hear some opinions from loyal Canes fans out there. 
|> 
|> If Alabama stumbles and the rest of the top ten remains the same, do
|> you think the Mighty Canes will play an undefeated Texas A&M team
|> in the Cotton Bowl or, "chicken out" and play a once beaten Cornhusker
|> team in their home stadium?
|> 
|> 		- inquiring minds want to know
|> 
|> 			rob
|> 
|> 
|> 
Well, it's A'n'M's decision (the cotton bowl's really), assuming that A'n'M is
ranked ahead of Ablama and Nebraska (or Flahryda and Nebraska).  If the Cotton
Bowl wants Miami, they get Miami.  If they wanna wimp out and pick Notre Dame
or somebody, thats their choice.
-- 
Tom Scudder                    tomscud@ruf.rice.edu
"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, a half pack of
cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it."
-John Stuart Mill

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From: jeff@photon.cs.tamu.edu (Jeff Goldberg)
Subject: A&M 38 Houston 30
Followup-To: Jeff@cs.tamu.edu
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Texas A&M University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:08:42 GMT

University of Houston played perhaps it's best game of the season but
lost to Texas A&M by 8 points.  Jimmy Klingler threw for well over 400
yards, and was throwing the ball phenomenally well most of the game.  He
didn't suffer an interception until the fourth quarter, while throwing
something like 4 tds (I'm just going by recollection so I may be off a
little on my stats).

IMHO, the only reason that A&M won was the play of their new quarterback
Pullig who ended up with around 300 yards (again I could be off some).
I think that this would have been A&M's first loss if Pullig hadn't been
the quarterback.  Houston seemed to be playing defense well beyond
expectations and particularly had the run up the gut defended very well
throughout the first half.  And it was just that sort of run that A&M
had to survive on during Granger's tenure at QB during the first 8
games.  

Houston led the game at halftime 17-10, but A&M scored the next 21
points in the third quarter when they totally dominated.

I think that many will see the score and think that here is more
evidence that A&M is over rated.  But, I think that this game is more
evidence of improvement rather than disappointment.  A&M played a very
strong game offensively.  This is encouraging as far as the Cotton Bowl
is concerned.  A&M's defense did play poorly at times, but playing
Houston in the dome is tough.  Also, it appeared that overall Houston
just played an exceptionally strong game, especially Klingler.

Anyway, it was another close one, and A&M is 10-0.
--
           Jeff Goldberg                        
           College Station, Texas
From: tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Roger's Top 25--9 Nov
Date: 11 Nov 92 03:42:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov11.034246.16371
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Team			Weight
>----			------
>1 Washington (8-1)	2.6
>2 Florida St (8-1)	2.3
>3 Miami Fl (8-0)	2.2
>4 Nebraska (7-1)	2.2
>5 Alabama (9-0)		2.1	Game of the Week:	5 Alabama
>6 Michigan (8-0-1)	2.0				  vs
>7 Notre Dame (7-1-1)	2.0				16 Miss. St.
>8 Texas A&M (9-0)	1.9

>Washington had built up such a large lead over Florida St and Miami, one 
>loss wasn't enough to cause them to drop.  Unless Washington loses again, 
>maybe more than once, they will finish still ranked first.

>When I arranged them by schedule strength, I was surprised by what I found. 
> So I decided to share:

>Team			Sked Strength
>----			-------------
>1 Southern Cal		1.5
>2 Oregon St		1.5
>3 Stanford 		1.5
>4 California		1.4
>5 Arizona St		1.4
>6 Oregon		1.4
>7 Northwestern		1.4
>8 Arizona		1.4
>9 Washington		1.3
>10 Maryland		1.3
>11 South Carolina	1.3
>12 Washington St	1.3
>13 Florida		1.3
>14 Georgia Tech		1.3
>15 Louisiana St		1.2
>16 Duke			1.2
>17 UCLA			1.2

>A Pac-10 schedule apparently does a lot toward making a claim to tough 
>opponents.  Miami, by the way, came in at 34.

>R Dendy

Keep up the good work, Roger.  I'll show your results to our Stat Department.
This may qualify you for a grant or at least an award.  

GT
From: lein@cat.uucp (John Leinaweaver)
Subject: RU assistant coach arrested
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway NJ
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 18:25:09 GMT

Hmm, Who were those RU folks bashing PSU early in the season for having a
recruit arrested for possession (and was suspended from the team)?

Reading the paper this morning reveals that Rutgers' Defensive Line coach has 
been charged with possession of cocaine.  He was arrested when New
Brunswick police raided a crack house along with 6 other people (including
a 14 and 17 year old).

It's bad when players are arrested but now a person who is
responsible for guiding his players...


John L 
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From: ethan@earl.scd.ucar.edu (Ethan Alpert)
Subject: Two Buff Tailbacks to miss KU game
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.collge 
Summary: See Subject
Organization: Scientific Computing Divison/NCAR Boulder, CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:05:32 GMT


Starting sophamore(hey Njan how bout a spelling check) tailback Lamont 
Warren(bruised shoulder and flu) and freshman back up Rashaan Salaam 
(sprained ankle) will not play Saturday.

Junior James Hill will start, junior Scott Philips and junior Erik Mitchel
will be CU's tailbacks for the game. Erik Mitchel was moved from flanker
to tailback in order to preserve Nathan Campbell's redshirt season.

How does this affect the buffs chances, who are 94th in I-A for rushing?
MHO, is that the running game may even be better. Why? Lamont's rushing
style (stop, stutter, and go down as soon as contact is made). Lamont does
not hit the line at full speed.  He often stops and looks for non-existent
wholes. Hill and Philips are real backs. They run full speed into the line
and often make positive yards after contact. They are bigger and stronger
than Lamont(LW 6-0 200lbs, JH 6-1 210lbs, and SP 6-2 220lbs). And they have 
better stats even thought they have fewer carries. Lamont is a great runner
when backed up by a good offensive line. However the Buffs, as it has been
pointed out ad nausium, have no offensive line. Hence the need for the backs
to be big and strong, so they can knock people over and break arm tackles.

Just my opinion,

	-ethan
 
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From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: WAR OVER!!!! MIAMI WINS !!!!!!
Date: 8 Nov 92 21:15:12 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Nov8.200052.20823@cheshire.oxy.edu>, creasman@cheshire.oxy.edu (Scott Michael Creasman) writes:
> Actually I think this was all planned.  You figure U of A, throws
> the game against Washington St., a and follows with the tie against
> Oregon State.  If they'd beaten Miami, Miami would have plummeted
> in the rankings, and there would have been no opportunity for a
> rematch in the Fiesta.  This way, the best team in the Pac will
> be playing MIami in the Fiesta, for the National Championship?
> Probably not, but at least this way neither Washington nor Miami
> will be #1.

 Here's a strange scenarion for you. Suppose, just suppose that Arizona
weins out and UW drops a game or ties. Further, suppose Miami chokes
one away in these last few weeks. Then Arizona would play in
the Rose Bowl against Michigan, who if they win out would probably
be #1 in the country. So this would mean that Arizona would have
played three games against the #1 team in the country in 1 season. I
doubt that that has ever happened before (unlikely to happen this
season I admit but we can dream...).

				gln

> 
> Scott


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