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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:10:42 EST
From:         KMARVIN@WCU.BITNET
Subject:      Network Adaptors

 I am posting this question for our network technician. He would like to know
 if anyone has come up with a way to determine what network adaptor (NIC)
 exists in a PC through the software before logging into a network. For
 example, the PC's on our campus will have either token ring or Ethernet cards
 -- is there a way to check ahead of time which kind of card exists in the PC
 before accessing the network?

 Thanks in advance,

 Kathie Marvin                     KMARVIN@WCU.BITNET
 Administrative Computing
 West Chester University
 West Chester, PA
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:44:49 CDT
From:         David=Lloyd%JoStu%UIUC=CMC@BIGBIRD.WILL.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      re: Hardware Platform Questions
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

Why three hard drives?  Why not get two drives of the same size, just bigger??
Or are you trying to do some sort of drive array??  I recommend the Novell
NE3200 NIC if you are using Vines V4.11(5) otherwise put a 3C507 in the server
until Vines 5.(x) supports the NE3200.  Then buy a NE3200 for the server.  The
DPT and Exabyte should work fine, except the Exabyte does not have the Vines
microcode.  So Vines will generate an error message when it "see" the drive,
but will work fine otherwise.

David L. Blair  davidb@uiuc.edu
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:00:59 EDT
From:         Lou=Janelle%Faculty%WAYNE@AUBURN.UAKRON.EDU
Subject:      TAPE DRIVE CONFIG - PART 2

I posted the following message:

>We're installing a server with the following configuration:
>	Dell 433SE Tower with 33MZ 80486 microprocessor
>	1 3.5" HD diskette drive
>	1 650 MB Micropolis SCSI Hard Drive
>	1 Wangtek 350/525 MB SCSI External Tape Drive
>	1 AHA-1740/42A SCSI HOST ADAPTER
>	VINES 4.11(5) operating system
>
>Everything works fine except the tape drive.  The request to backup the system
>results in the system asking one to insert a diskette in drive "A".  The tape
>drive and the hard disk are both connected to the SCSI host adapter.  Our
>server configuration reads as follows:

Since posting the message, I substituted Banyan's 350/525 MB tape drive for
the one sent to us by Dell.  It worked!  So, do I have a bad tape drive or did
Banyan do something to the 350/525 Tape Drive that Dell didn't do?

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Lou Janelle                              216/683-2010
The University of Akron-Wayne College    FAX:  216/683-1517
10470 Smucker Rd
Orrville OH 44667
LOUJ%FACULTY%WAYNE@BANYAN.UAKRON.EDU
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:52:47 AES
From:         Ian=Brabham%CC%Monash@BANYAN.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU
Subject:      re: Moving a File Service
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Jeffrey G. Brown,

>I'm getting ready to move a file service from one server to another,
>both of which will be on the same LAN segment. I'm just a bit paranoid
>about deleting the original service before the new service is restored
>and tested. I'd like to know if I'd get into trouble with the following
>scenario:

> 1) Back up original service to tape.
> 2) Create a new service, with a different name, on the second server.
> 3) Restore the tape backup to the new service.
> 4) Connect to the new service and check it out.
> 5) Delete the old service.
> 6) Create a nickname in the old service's group, using the old
>    service's item name, and point it at the new service.
>This would restore the use of the service to all of its existing users,
>without the necessity of changing the SETDRIVE statement in all of the
>user profiles.
  7) Adjust all profiles, batch files, etc at your leisure to
     use the new name.

I didn't know there was any other way to do this. <Grin>

Ian Brabham                 email: ian@banyan.cc.monash.edu.au
Micro Support Group         phone: +61 3 565 4742
Monash University           fax:   +61 3 565 4746
Melbourne Australia
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:06:37 EDT
From:         "Teerawat Pawittranon" <teera@EMUNIX.EMICH.EDU>
Subject:      Windows,
              logout/login and concurrent login number (2 or more digits)
X-To:         BANYAN-L <BANYAN-L@vm1.cc.uakron.edu>

Hi All,

Is there a way to logout and login while shelling out to DOS from Windows?
And how about setting concurrent login number to 2 or more digits?
Please beleive me, there are reasons behind these questions.

Hint: Cheap way to limit access to software application and not making life
difficult for users (but I guess it has created a lot of headache for me
already!).  But at some point it might have to draw a line!


Thank you,
Tee
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:01:32 EDT
From:         BOIVIN_JEAN-MARC%CTI%ULAVAL@CAMPUS.ULAVAL.CA
Subject:      ORACL tablespace on Vines

I just installed Oracle version 6 on a Vines server with two disk. The
distributions files was installed on disk 1 as recommended by Oracle corp..
Now I want to build a tablespace on disk 2. On Vines, how do we say that we
want the DB files to be created on disk 2 in the CREATE TABLESPACE...
command??? (idem: how do you name disk 2 on Vines?).

Please help me, I have been waiting for Oracle support for two days now...

Jean-Marc Boivin (jmboivin@cti.ulaval.ca)
University Laval
Quebec
Canada
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:15:27 EDT
From:         SOHIER_DANNY%CTI%ULAVAL@CAMPUS.ULAVAL.CA
Subject:      re: TAPE DRIVE CONFIGURATION
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

What are your SCSI ID's for your controller card, Tape Drive and Hard Drive?
Where are your terminators?  Did you boot up you Tape Drive before your
system, it looks like the server just did not see your tape while
initializing.


Danny J. Sohier
Laval University
Dsohier@cti.ulaval.ca
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:44:52 EDT
From:         "Elliott Coates" <COATES@UMUC.BITNET>
Subject:      SCO Unix & Vines

Would someone lay out what all the merger between SCO Unix and VINES will
entail?  Can the same box be both a Vines client and server at the same time?
Can it serve its client side?  Will it be a server to present day Vines
clients?  I mean what gives?  This is not solely an academic question.  We are
trying to make plans and its difficult not knowing what the SCO + VINES
marriage is all about.  Also when is the approximate release date?

Would be Appreciative,

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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:15:26 EDT
From:         LuAnne Meyer <luanne@HQ.AF.MIL>
Subject:      Hardware Platform Questions
X-To:         Banyan-l@vm1.cc.uakron.edu

David,

We are using three drivees because it's supposed to give better performance.
The small drive will be for the OS and administration stuff.  The other two
are for other services (file, print, etc.).  Banyan says to keep the OS and
admin stuff on a separate, small drive because it can keep a smaller inode table
in memory.  We need more than 660 MB so we got two of the large drives.

The NIC in the list is part of the certified platform so we'll probably
stay with it.

The client currently has a 3+ Share network in place and is migrating to
VINES.  I don't think theey would like the suggestion of buying one NIC card now
and then buying yet another one at a later date.

If anyone else replied to this, please re-submit your suggestions or advice
as I think something happened to my host's mail service and  I missed the
replies.

Thanks ... LuAnne
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:02:11 CDT
From:         "Allen R. Moffett" <moffear@TEXACO.COM>
Subject:      re: Moving a File Service
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

This also occurs when trying to delete a file service i.e., the service
still shows up in mservice but you can't do a thing with it. I have been
able to delete them by selecting delete from mservice until it's gone.

Allen Moffett
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 08:42:21 PDT
From:         MA=Crist%Info_Sys%STG_IS@DSO3.DSD.TRW.COM
Subject:      Printer problems
X-To:         banyan-l@vm1.cc.uakron.edu

I posted this before and got back a couple of ideas.  Unfortunately, I
misplaced the answers.  So, here goes again.  I have a user with NO setprint
statement in their profile.  Yet, when they try to initiate a print to their
locally attached printer, they get a StreetTalk 1001 error.  We have tried
using SETPRINT LPT1 OFF without success.  Any ideas?  Thanks in advance.

Mike Crist
TRW
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:55:37 EDT
From:         LuAnne Meyer <luanne@HQ.AF.MIL>
Subject:      Hardware Platform Question
X-To:         banyan-l@vm1.cc.uakron.edu

David,

I downloaded the a'all-hw.zipp' file from csus.edu.  The configuration
for the Everex Step 486/33E EISA Megacube was in there.  The Adaptec 1740
controller is listed as the only certified disk controller for that
platform.  The same configuration is also listed in a VINES Platform
Configuration Matrix (2Q92).  I don't really know any details about
it.  Oh, a Banyan engineer STRONGLY encouraged us to use it.

LuAnne
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:08:09 CDT
From:         David=Lloyd%JoStu%UIUC=CMC@BIGBIRD.WILL.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      re: Hardware Platform Questions
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

LuAnne,

I am glad that the "Banyan-L" was a help in your consulating decision.  I am
suprised to fine that Banyan recommended the Adaptec 1740/1742.  I can fine no
reference in their documentation about supporting that board.  I know they
support the 1540/1542 and the 1640.  Is the 1740/1742 listed in the certified
platform list?  From your research does the 1740/1742 have an expandable cache
or is it just EISA version of the 1540/1542?  I just ordered a Gateway as my
new server and they come standard with the 1740 in the EISA configuration.

David L. Blair  davidb@uiuc.edu
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:24:34 AES
From:         Ian=Brabham%CC%Monash@BANYAN.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU
Subject:      re: NETBIOS
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

Roland,

>I could use some help connecting a CD-ROM reader to my Network.  The way I
>understand it:
>	1.  Connect the CD-ROM to a PC that has connectivity.
>	2.  Create a PC-Based service (this one is a little fuzzy)

PC-Based is required for Trellis redirector software and does NOT use
Netbios.  It also requires you to load extended StreetTalk support in
PCCONFIG on the CD-ROM PC.

Other products that use Netbios transport will require you to create a
Netbios naming service on one of your servers.

>	3.  Set the PCCONFIG (or use PCNETB) on the PC with the CD-ROM

And all the PC's that want to use the CD-ROM.

>	4.  Modify the Profile (or use SETNETB) on the other connected PC's

>How does Banyan know what is being configured as a NETBIOS service?  When I
>execute the above steps, the PC that I run SETNETB on returns an error like
>	'NETBIOS not running' I forget the exact verbage

Create a Netbios service on one of your servers.  It will be one of the
service types offered when you create a SERVER BASED SERVICE.

Ian Brabham                 email: ian@banyan.cc.monash.edu.au
Micro Support Group         phone: +61 3 565 4742
Monash University           fax:   +61 3 565 4746
Melbourne Australia
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:45:14 EDT
From:         LuAnne Meyer <luanne@HQ.AF.MIL>
Subject:      cc:Mail and VINES
X-To:         banyan-l@vm1.cc.uakron.edu

HI!

Does anyone know if the Banyan mail option is required to implement
cc:Mail under VINES?

Thanks ... LuAnne
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 10:44:45 AES
From:         Ian=Brabham%CC%Monash@BANYAN.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU
Subject:      re: EBANYAN ERROR MESSAGE
X-To:         labelles@zeno.mscd.edu
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Stephen LaBelle,

>When attempting to load the EBANYAN TSR, I get the following errors:
>	Vines sordaddr() failed
>	net configuration failed
>We are running VINES 4.11(5) using the NDIS driver, Intel Etherexpress NIC.
                                       /^^^^\
The Vines NDIS interface does not support the undocumented hooks that Ebanyan
uses to access the ethernet card.  Use either the ETHDRV version of PCTCP with
the NDIS/Packet Driver shim  OR  the Vines Cabletron PACKET DRIVER interface
to access your ethernet card.  This driver works with all Packet drivers not
just Cabletron packet drivers.  Set MULTI-PROTOCOL support to YES in PCCONFIG
to enable the Ebanyan hooks.

Ian Brabham                 email: ian@banyan.cc.monash.edu.au
Micro Support Group         phone: +61 3 565 4742
Monash University           fax:   +61 3 565 4746
Melbourne Australia
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:44:33 EST
From:         Stephan=Sas%SYS%AGR@CC3.KULEUVEN.AC.BE
Subject:      re: KEEPING TIME.

I think this problem should be solved in VINES 5...one server that acts as a
reference for the other servers and this in his turn can call another external
 reference by means of async communications...
I did'nt have the oportunity to test it, since I did just receive the upgrade

stephan sas
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:21:12 EDT
From:         BILL LONG <USERHHA6@UMICHUM.BITNET>
Subject:      Upgrading to Vines 5.0 on a Compaq Deskpro/33

 When I attempt to install 5.0 with the 1st install disk the compaq runs
thru it's memory count and then reinitializes as if it had just been
powered up. It appears to try and write to the screen but then starts to
reboot again. In addition I am and was able to install 4.10 (1st diskette)
on the same system with no problems. Any ideas......................
thanks in advance!!

Bill Long        HHA6@UM.CC.UMICH.EDU     NETWORK ADMIN.
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:19:36 +0000
From:         THOM@BDILUC01.BITNET
Subject:      WINDOWS 3.1 on a VINES 4.1 network1

Dear Netters,

I just installed WIN3.1 on my Vines net (ver. 4.1), as explained in the WIN3.1
manual,i.e: - copy all files to a net-drive (P: in my case) via SETUP /A
            - SETUP /N to copy the necessary files to a local drive or to
                       a shared net-drive

Result: Windows starts up correctly, however:

        - almost all icons are the same 'general-type' icon
        - I cannot use any of my public applications: Invalid Path
        - even from the file manager, when I am in the correct directory, I
          get this error
        - all Accessories however work although they also reside on my P drive

All this DID work (and still works) on my WIN 3.0 implementation.

What did I do wrong ?

Thanks for your help.

Marc

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Marc Thoelen
Limburgs Universitair Centrum
Universitaire Campus Gebouw D
B-3590 Diepenbeek
Belgium

Tel. ++32-11-229961 (211)
Fax. ++32-11-223284
email: THOM@BDILUC01.BITNET
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 10:54:12 AES
From:         Ian=Brabham%CC%Monash@BANYAN.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU
Subject:      re: CoProcessor
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

Josef Zeevi,

>Does anyone know of any statistics on the performance of servers with or
>without co-processors? We are currently running without one, but do not have
>overly poor performance. However, if one would help greatly, I might be
>interested in adding it to our configuration.

Vines executables and kernal make no use of floating point or extended
precision arithmetic functions.  The C compiler and libraries provided
with the toolkit have little maths support.  The activity on a server
is very much to do with moving data and not much to do with intensive
mathematical calculations.

So I guess the answer is unless you have some 3rd party server software
that can make use of the the coprocessor intructions set there is no
benefit to having one in a server.

To make things go faster, add more memory for file cache, use faster disk
drives and use higher bandwidth disk controllers and ethernet cards.

Ian Brabham                 email: ian@banyan.cc.monash.edu.au
Micro Support Group         phone: +61 3 565 4742
Monash University           fax:   +61 3 565 4746
Melbourne Australia
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From: berman@cwis.unomaha.edu (Harry Berman)
Subject: I.B.M series 90 - 95 as servers
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 04:50:23 GMT

Anyone using an I.B.M. pc series 90 or 95 as a server :

We currently have a client who will only use I.B.M. pcs. 
We would like to know how people currently using I.B.M.
servers like them, what kinds of problems they create, and
which N.I.C.s have worked well for you.

Thank you in advance.

	Harry Berman          berman@odin.unomaha.edu

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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:33:03 -0600
From:         STRASHEA@ZENO.MSC.COLORADO.EDU
Subject:      Re: EBANYAN ERROR MESSAGE
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

Bill, your idea of solely using IBANYAN is a good one and I'm
sure you are having no problems with it.  We however, have
a problem with multiple subnets (exceeding 16 from what I've
been told) which goes against our planning standards.  I think
is completely a logistical issue, but we would also like to
run the Ebanyan to be as flexible on our subnetting schemes
as possible.  IBANYAN seems to be limiting us quite severely in
that area.  Any ideas???  I can list the types of NICS we use
since I install them every day:

INTEL ETHEREXPRESS (10T)
WD 8013 (10t)
SMC MCA (10T)

Proteon 1347
IBM Token II 4/16
(and some older 8-bit IBM token cards)

Any help would be appreciated.  I work with Steve Labelle,
he's our VAX guy, I'm the PC guy, but not the SERVER
Admin who another person altogether <grin>...  we just like
confusing the public about what we do <grin>.

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                                      Metropolitan State College of Denver
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 09:25:00 EDT
From:         "Gregory.Burgess" <GBURGESS@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      NETBIOS

We are using OPTINET software from On-Line systems to put CDROM's on the net.
It uses NetBIOS to connect the clients to the optical server.  What we are
doing is the following:

User executes a batch file called CDROM.BAT

The batch file loads PCNETB (this way it is only loaded when needed), next it
executes "SETNETB NetBIOS@CDROM@Business", then it loads the OPTINET Software
to connect the client to the optical server.

By using some environment variables it is possible to make the computer skip
loading PCNETB and excuting SETNETB a second time.

We have been real happy with the current setup and OPTINET software (I
couldn't get the Trellis stuff to work properly.)

Hope this is of some help.
Greg Burgess
gburgess@msu.edu
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:43:27 -0300
From:         Rob Spellman <rob@MOTHER.BATES.EDU>
Subject:      Re: NTP for VINES
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU
              30 Jul 92 16:27:59 GMT." <9207301639.AA03614@mother.bates.edu>

>I tried to anonymously FTP ntp100.zip from infoservices1.dis.cccd.edu, but
>it won't let me login with anonymous ... (I used scoggin@udel.edu as the
>password, per Internet custom).

The password for anonymous ftp to infoservices1 is no password at all.
Just hit return when it asks for a password.
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:40:25 CDT
From:         David=Lloyd%JoStu%UIUC=CMC@BIGBIRD.WILL.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      re: Hardware Platform Questions
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

I personally do not pay to much attention to the "offical" list of certified
platforms.  I instead look to see if a particular product is somewhere on the
list and see if it mentioned in the release notes or the kpr's or patch readme
files.  My three servers are not in anyway shape or form on any Banyan
certified list, but they work just fine.  On the 660Mb HD's pick one that has
a long warranty, 5years: HP, Maxtor, Micropolis, Fujisui(I can't spell it, but
you should get the idea).  Why get a Everex MegaCube??  Why not get a Compaq
SystemPro?  It has the IDA, Intelligent Drive Array, which has fault tolerant
capabilities.  Since the budget must not be too small.  MegaCube's are not
inexpensive.  It budget is a factor, buy a Gateway or build your "own" clone
and save the client some money and make a bigger margin for yourself!

	-David Blair
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