HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Naseer Mohammed Khan <khan@us17501.mdc.com>
Subject: Re: Macintosh Newsreader??
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 16:50:36 GMT
Organization: Somewhere in Sunny Southern California
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6CA3F050F01CDAB@l33359.mdc.com>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 2 Sep 92 17:51:01 GMT

Re: Macintosh Newsreader??

In article <1992Aug25.124127.23251@chx400.switch.ch> Martin Berli,
berli@switch.ch writes:
>The best Mac newsreader I know is Nuntius. You can get the newest version
>from frederik.ruc.dk
>
>Martin Berli
>berli@switch.ch

I agree with Martin and all the countless number of people using Nuntius.
It is without a doubt a very good Mac program and its excellent for
reading
NetNews provided you have access to an NNTP server.

      |      |                        Signed:  Naseer Khan
      | (~)(o)                                 ___________
     C      _)
      | ,___|                                  khan@us17501.mdc.com
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: csp48@seq1.keele.ac.uk (J.W. Kirriemuir)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,news.admin
Subject: Is Sheffield University connected?
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:37:08 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England

Does anyone out there know if Sheffield University, England, UK is
hooked up to this wonderful system? I am due to start a PhD there in a
few weeks, and will miss my newsgroup reads and posts terribly if this
isn't the case.
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: root@cc.mcgill.ca (Steeve)
Subject: Re: Test - please ignore
Organization: McGill University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:27:23 GMT

Test test test too.
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: edwin@tellabs.com (Ed "Space Ace" Whitfield)
Subject: FTP Mail
Originator: edwin@tellaba
Organization: Tellabs, Inc., IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 02:09:55 GMT



Does anyone have any precise instructions on how to FTP by mail.
If there a newsgroup, or FAQ which provides clear instructions?

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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: Re: FTP'ing
Keywords: FTP
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 07:48:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.033753.13264@midway.uchicago.edu> gc14@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Hi there all!  I'm really new to internet and all things related to it.
>But, while reading some newsgroups I found posts saying to FTP things.
>I tried to log on to the FTP site, but couldn't get in!!!

If you do not know how to go about FTP, users are welcome to email
me for the prerecorded garbo.uwasa.fi instructions (long, circa
29Kb).  Although they cover much that is specific to garbo, they
also give you information applicable at any FTP site. 

If you do not receive my reply within five days, please ask your own
site's system manager to construct a returnable mail path for you". 

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland
From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Articles I Post are Being Deleted Too Quickly!
Date: 27 Aug 92 04:02:42 GMT
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


>>>>> "Jan" == Jan Bruun Andersen (jba@ruc.dk)
>>>>> "ralph" == ralphs  (ralphs@halcyon.com)

Jan> I won't because I don't think alt.m-k is even remotely usefull here in
Jan> Denmark.

ralph> Two girls from Denmark (or was it Sweden) toured the U.S., were
ralph> kidnapped, raped, and murdered.  Certainly, in this case, there
ralph> are corpses, but in many cases, the missing remain just that.
ralph> Runaways and abductions are not common to just the United States.

Ah, but in Denmark it is considered inevitable that people who travel
to indecent places such as Angola, Somalia, or the U.S.A. are bound
to at some point loose property, life, or even virginity. People who
embark on such folly are not worth anyones time.

/Lars, founder, SON, Inc.
--
Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of
CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin
From: walker@Ingres.COM (Lynn Walker)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: 2 questions--crossposting & creating .sig files
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:14:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

I am currently using VAX VMS news. I have tried to get the answers to these
questions locally, but I am not having any luck.

How to I post the same message to different newsgroups at one time? Say I
want to post to "rec.pets.cats" and "rec.pets". When I use the "p" command,
I get (in brackets) the name of the newsgroup that I am currently in. If I
type the name of another newsgroup, it will post it in the alternate group.
I have also tried to type several newsgroup names in the "edit" mode, but
it still will only send to one group. Perhaps I should be using a special
character (:,:,/, etc.) between names?

Secondly, I wanted to know how to create a .sig file. Is this answer found
in a FAQ list?

		Thanks,

				lynn walker
				walker@ingres.com
From: jba@ruc.dk (Jan Bruun Andersen)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Articles I Post are Being Deleted Too Quickly!
Date: 28 Aug 92 10:01:04 GMT
Followup-To: news.misc
Organization: Roskilde Universitetscenter, Danmark

fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer) writes:

>>>>>> "Jan" == Jan Bruun Andersen (jba@ruc.dk)
>>>>>> "ralph" == ralphs  (ralphs@halcyon.com)

>Jan> I won't because I don't think alt.m-k is even remotely usefull here in
>Jan> Denmark.

>ralph> Two girls from Denmark (or was it Sweden) toured the U.S., were
>ralph> kidnapped, raped, and murdered.  Certainly, in this case, there
>ralph> are corpses, but in many cases, the missing remain just that.
>ralph> Runaways and abductions are not common to just the United States.

>Ah, but in Denmark it is considered inevitable that people who travel
>to indecent places such as Angola, Somalia, or the U.S.A. are bound
>to at some point loose property, life, or even virginity. People who
>embark on such folly are not worth anyones time.

Lars, I hope you forgot to add a smiley or two to the last sentence?
If not, I think my own posting deserves a little more explanation.
The reason I don't think alt.missing-kids would be useful in Denmark
is due to two reason. 1) It is still a very, very small group of people
who read news in Denmark, 2) The number of kids that run away (or heaven
forbid gets abducted or murdered) is also quite small. Personally, I would
very quickly loose interest in reading descriptions of american kids that
are missing (now, if the Distribution-mechanism worked it would be a
different matter...).

In summary: Yes, I understand that alt.m-k could benefit from a longer
expiration period. No, I won't extend it at my site.

OBS OBS OBS: I have set the followup to news.misc as this is hardly
news.newsuser.questions any more.

>/Lars, founder, SON, Inc.
>--
>Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of
>CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin
-- 
Jan B. Andersen <jba@dat.ruc.dk>             ("DENMARK does it with DYNAMITE!")
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Subject: Anonymous FTP info (Re: FTP'ing)
Summary: RTFM
Organization: AS&M Inc
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:32:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.033753.13264@midway.uchicago.edu> gc14@ellis.uchicago.edu (Grace Putao Chang) writes:
   Hi there all!  I'm really new to internet and all things related to it.
   But, while reading some newsgroups I found posts saying to FTP things.
   I tried to log on to the FTP site, but couldn't get in!!!
   Is there some kind of standard password I need to know???
   I specifically want to use the FTP site at kukulcan.berkeley.edu

Anonymous FTP is a relatively standard convention on the net.  If
it's set up on the system you want to access (archive sites, for
example), login as `anonymous', then supply your email address
for the password.  Note that anonymous merely means that anyone
can login, but the sysadmin may choose to log your session.

% ftp rtfm.mit.edu
Connected to PIT-MANAGER.MIT.EDU.
220 pit-manager.MIT.EDU FTP server (Version 4.179 Tue Jul 7 18:37:28 EDT 1992) r
eady.
Name (rtfm.mit.edu:jaapjl): anonymous
331 Guest login ok, send ident as password.
Password:                  <---- I typed jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov here.
230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
ftp> cd pub/usenet
250 CWD command successful.
ftp> ls news.*/*ftp*
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list.
[...]
news.answers/ftp-list/faq
[...]
226 Transfer complete.
remote: news.*/*ftp*
267 bytes received in 0.02 seconds (13 Kbytes/s)
ftp> cd news.answers/ftp-list
250 CWD command successful.
ftp> get faq /tmp/faq
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for faq (13830 bytes).
226 Transfer complete.
local: /tmp/faq remote: faq
14153 bytes received in 0.88 seconds (16 Kbytes/s)
ftp> quit
221 Goodbye.
%

Have fun.
--
J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@LaRC.NASA.Gov> +1 804/864-2148
employed by, not speaking for, AS&M Inc, at NASA LaRC, Hampton VA 23681-0001
From: cc558@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles F. Ellmaker)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Testing
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:05:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


This is a test to see what my address is.
Thank you for your patience.
C. Fred
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: waider@glas.rtsg.mot.com (Ronan Waide)
Subject: Re: FTP Mail
Organization: Motorola Ireland Ltd., Cork, Ireland.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:25:37 GMT

edwin@tellabs.com (Ed "Space Ace" Whitfield) writes:



>Does anyone have any precise instructions on how to FTP by mail.
>If there a newsgroup, or FAQ which provides clear instructions?

>-- 
>-------------------------------------------------------------------- 
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>Information Guru                        Data.: 312/326-4750 

>Tellabs Operations, Inc.                Lisle/Naperville, IL 
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mail to ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com
subject is whatever you like,
body of message is passed to the FTP handler.

Send body containing 'help' (without the quotes!) for further info; If you're
in a hurry to try it out, the basic commands are:

connect <site.name>
ls
chdir /directory -> must come before any ls or get commands, only one chdir per
                    message.
get file         -> maximum of 10 gets per request
quit             -> disregard the rest of the message <advisible if you've got
                    a .sig>

Note also that several sites run their own mail-server; garbo.uwasa.fi runs 
one, as does nic.sri.com. I don't have the info for these to hand at the mo,
but mail if you're interested and I'll haul 'em out.

One last word: the decwrl server is a _public_ service; it's maintained by
volunteers (as far as I remember) and in the interests of it remaining open,
_please_ be responsible about using it. Remember, it mails stuff back to you.
That mail may have to pass through N sites to get to you, and if it's a biggy
it'll piss people off <it is, however, mailed in chunks if it's really big>.

Also you may lose bits of it :-> It's not a perfect net.....

Disclaimer: I have no (none, nil, zero) association with DEC short of using (a)
their ftpmail server and (b) using a VAX in college. But the service is good...

Ronan
-- 
Ronan Waide, Motorola Ireland                        waider@glas.rtsg.mot.com

"We're going to assume a few things about reality.  One, it exists.  That's not
a necessary assumption, but I find it comforting." - Prof R. Noble @ RPI
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: rpt@edscom.demon.co.uk (Richard Tomlinson)
Subject: Re: Replying to Posts
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:44:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.094953.3948@ohm.york.ac.uk> pt@ohm.york.ac.uk (Pete Turner) writes:
>To reply to a post and include the original text you can simply use
>the 'f' option - post a follow up article and you will be prompted
>to include the original article or not.  Alternatively if you want
>to reply to the person direct you can save the original article -
>the 's' option and when editting your reply append the saved article.

My news reader (rn or trn) does not include the original article if you use
f - use F instead and it will. Remember to trim the original article as much
as possible eg. don't repeat the signature.

Richard.

-- 
Richard Tomlinson, EDS Scicon, Wavendon Tower, Milton Keynes, UK MK17 8LX
rpt@edscom.demon.co.uk   Tel:  +44 908 284539          Amateur radio: G4TGJ
All opinions expressed are mine, and are not necessarily those of my employer.
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: gworrell@carina.unm.edu (Gayla M. Worrell)
Subject: Replying to Posts
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 00:05:16 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: usa


I am a newuser and have what feels like a really stupid question, but I have
not found anywhere else to look for an answer.  So please forgive me if it
is a FAQ and point me in the right direction. Thanks.

When I reply to a post, how do I get the text from the post to appear on my
reply?

All help will be greatly appreciated.
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Michael van Keulen)
Subject: Re: Please 'ack' if you see this...
Organization: Murdoch University
Date: 21 Aug 92 04:10:30 GMT

"ack"

Mike van Keulen                               keulen@murdoch.edu.au
School of BES - Biology                       ++ 61 (09) 360-2843
Murdoch University
Murdoch WA 6150  AUSTRALIA
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Subject: Re: Distribution acronyms.
Organization: AS&M Inc
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 17:58:12 GMT

In article <59956@mimsy.umd.edu> acecoder@umiacs.umd.edu (Pierce Leonberger) writes:
   I'm looking for an archive of distribution acronyms for universities in the 
   United States.  Does such a file exist?

Yes.  In fact I saved one out of news.lists a few months ago.  Andy
Brager <andyb@wndrsvr.la.ca.us> maintains it.  But using Distributions
probably won't work the way you want them to.  The way I understand
them is that there has to be a chain of newssites from the insertion
site to the destination such that each passes at least one of the
Distributions in the post to the next site.  Posts don't magically fly
through the aether to a destination Distribution.

Send me email if you want my saved list.
--
J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@LaRC.NASA.Gov> +1 804/864-2148
employed by, not speaking for, AS&M Inc, at NASA LaRC, Hampton VA 23681-0001
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: dms7724@ultb.isc.rit.edu (D.M. Smith)
Subject: Frame Relay info available online?
Originator: dms7724@ultb
Reply-To: dms7724@ultb.rit.edu ()
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:23:56 GMT


Hi.

I'm interested in Frame Relay.  The only RFC I could find was 1294,
which covers encapsulation of FR w/i IP nets. 

What I'd like to find is any introductory information to Frame Relay.

Thanks.
From: slix@svcs1.UUCP (Bill Miller)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: transferring files to local systems
Summary: use rz/sz
Keywords: kermit, local
Date: 26 Aug 92 02:12:49 GMT
Organization: Silicon Valley Computer Society, Sunnyvale, CA

In article <1992Aug22.211455.28566@wam.umd.edu>, jengagne@wam.umd.edu (Jenny Lynne Gagne) writes:

> What I need to know is : is there a faster transfer program on
> the net I can use?  I think wam.umd.edu uses ultrix v4.2 (rev. 96),
> or so it says when I log in.  What would be miraculous would be
> if I could find a unix version of ZModem (230 bps, resume aborted
> files... YEAH!).  Is there a better way to do this, or do I just

Most Unix boxes *should* have rz and sz, which are the unix equivalents
to Forsberg dsz which the DOS people use.  I've been able to initiate
rz (rz -b) on the unix box, and then send something via dsz (using commo)
on the DOS box with no problems so far.

Others suggested to me that kermit might work better but I prefer zmodem
anyway.


Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: root@cc.mcgill.ca (Steeve)
Subject: Re: FTP'ing
Organization: McGill University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:31:37 GMT

Use the login: anonymous

when prompted for the password enter your email address


Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist)
Subject: Re: I need help with newsreaders!
Reply-To: king@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:04:07 GMT

franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) publicly declared:
>then I just execute rnfun - however, I really think rn sucks. I am an
>"nn" fan myself - nn is much easier and more efficient at 2400 baud 
>with it's "point and shoot" interface. very quick and easy. I don't
>seem to be able to do this with nn - is there anyways to designate
>an NNTPSERVER, AND a specific newsrc? Any ideas would be greatly
>appreciated.

Use 'trn' instead of 'rn'.  It's the threaded version which combines
the "point-and-shoot" style of 'nn' with the command structure of
'rn'.  Since 'trn' is based off of 'rn', you can play the same tricks
you were talking about.  I was doing exactly that for a while.

-- 
-------------------------------------------------------+-----------------------
Let others praise the ancient times, I'm glad I was    |      Steven King
born in these.                                         |   Motorola Cellular
                                     (Ovid, c. 53 BC)  |   king@rtsg.mot.com
From: jpadres@foreigner.mty.itesm.mx (Jorge Luis Padres Ballesteros)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: america online
Date: 29 Aug 92 23:07:42 GMT

I read on the Pc world about a net called America Online ..
i live in a foreign country i want to know if i can suscribe this service 
i hope u can help me ...

thanks in advance !!!!

jpadres@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: erodrigu@dcc.uchile.cl (Eduardo Rodriguez)
Subject: Re: Proposed new group
Originator: erodrigu@tolten
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 13:38:57 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Chile, Depto. de Ciencias de la Computacion


In article <180rd2INNgrb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ce157@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric W. Mack) writes:
> 
> How do I create a new group?  I tried posting a msg to news.announce.
> newgroups, but it was rejected?
> -- 

If the group will be widely distributed, then read the "How to 
Create a New Newsgroup" article, periodically posted here. If you
want a local newsgroup, then contact the News Manager of your site.

edo...

pm. I'm sending you a copy of the article mencioned.


Eduardo Rodriguez S        - --- - --- - --- -    erodrigu@dcc.uchile.cl
Dpto de Ciencias de la Computacion  - --- -    ...!uunet!uchdcc!erodrigu
Universidad de Chile   --- - --- - ---   erodrigu%uchdcc@uchcecvm.BITNET
- --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- 
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: wang@hp4at.eunet.co.at (Wang)
Subject: Internetgateway to Aston Tate BBS ??
Organization: EUnet EDV-Dienstleistungsgesellschaft m.b.H
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 08:47:44 GMT

Hi!

I'd like to contact somebody on the Ashton Tate BBS via Internet!
Is there a gateway somewhere? 
What else do I have to know? I only know his username and that he's 
dialing up to a Compuservenumber then choosing ATBBS.

Thanks a lot!

/m

-- 
Michael Zacherl, Wang Austria Ltd., Vienna         |
E-MAIL: mza@pag.wang.co.at                         | "Everything is possible,
PHONE:  +43 (1) 89-111 ext. 433                    |  but nothing is real"
FAX:    +43 (1) 894-17-14                          |     (Living Colour)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist)
Subject: Re: UNIX Beginners Book List Wanted
Reply-To: king@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:22:19 GMT

swlodin@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Steve Lodin) publicly declared:
>Can someone point me to a FAQ or reference to a list of UNIX beginners
>books?  Our technical library would like to start stocking some of
>them and of course they don't have the faintest inckling what UNIX is.

I've had good luck with the Nutshell series from O'Reilly &
Associates.  While I haven't looked at any of their basic Unix books,
the others I have had experience with are vary good.

A few of their basic Unix books are:

        Learning the Unix Operating System
        DOS Meets Unix
        Learning the vi Editor

They also carry more in-depth books on Curses, Termcap & Terminfo,
Perl, Sed & Awk, UUCP & Usenet, etc.  Look in your local computer-geek
bookstore or use the contact below:

        O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.
        632 Petaluma Avenue
        Sebastopol, CA 95472
         1-800-338-6887 (USA)
        +1 707 829 0515 (International)
        nuts@ora.com    (Internet)
        uunet!ora!nuts  (UUCP)

-- 
---------------------------------------------------------+---------------------
We are the X-Borg.  You will be assimilated.             |     Steven King
Resistance is irrelevant.  Sunview is irrelevant.        |  Motorola Cellular
OpenWindows is irrelevant.  You will be assimilated.     |  king@rtsg.mot.com
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Subject: Re: UNIX Beginners Book List Wanted
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 15:42:49 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

swlodin@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Steve Lodin) writes:
: 
: 
: Can someone point me to a FAQ or reference to a list of UNIX beginners
: books?  Our technical library would like to start stocking some of
: them and of course they don't have the faintest inckling what UNIX is.
: 
: 
: Thanks alot!!
: 
I haven't seen a FAQ on this.
Try Unix for People and Unix Made Easy. There is also
Unix for the Impatient - but I don't know much about it.
: 

--
Mary E. S. Morris    |  The future exists first in imagination, then
mesm@netcom.COM      |  in will, then in reality. -- Galivan Burwell
=====================================================================
Netcom - Online Communication Services San Jose, CA
From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: FTP Mail
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:54:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AS&M Inc

In article <1992Sep4.020955.24507@tellab5.tellabs.com> edwin@tellabs.com (Ed "Space Ace" Whitfield) writes:
   Does anyone have any precise instructions on how to FTP by mail.
   If there a newsgroup, or FAQ which provides clear instructions?

Although some mail-servers use the same software, it's kind of hard
to guess which ones do.  Most of them accept the command "help".
Not all ftp sites have mail-servers.  You must ask the maintainer
of the site for specific info.
--
J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@LaRC.NASA.Gov> +1 804/864-2148
employed by, not speaking for, AS&M Inc, at NASA LaRC, Hampton VA 23681-0001