From: smile1@dancer.cc.bellcore.com (gray,david l)
Subject: Re: The EVIL Conspiracy behind this "Men's Choice" thing...
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 22:42:19 GMT

>So, do you do anything about homelessness in our country?  Do you volunteer
>time at Thanksgiving or Christmas or just any cold night to pass out free
>food or clothing or blankets?  Do you give away vegetables from your own
>garden so that others may eat?  Do you open your home to families with children
>so that they can sleep someplace warm for a night?  Some of us have done and
>are doing the above things.  It may not solve *ALL* the problems, but any
>little thing I can do to even help one human is better, in my opinion, than
>nothing at all.  I may not be able to help everyone, but I'll continue to do
>what I can and hope it makes a difference and hope others try to do at least
>one thing too.  All it takes is a little help from as many people as possible,
>instead of merely ranting about it on the net.
>
>allen

To Allen

Yes.  I always have and always will.  I have and continue to work in my 
church, I have worked with sexually and physically abused children for 
years and now I work in the prisons.  

My strong feelings about values did not start after my
divorce.  I have been working with people for more than 20 years.  I have
a lot of internal piece for my place in life.  However, I will admit 
that I find people who think they should get paid for having/raising a 
child really disturbing.

After many years of putting my heart out to the people the get pushed to
the bottom over money, greed, hate, revenge and selfish desires, it makes
me very concerned to find people still trying to put price tags on everything.

I not only pay my child support but my money goes for a lot of other things
than a bigger and better bike for my kids.  They are my primary responsibility
but not my only responsibility.  With the value system that I hear on this
network, money for children seems to be the only important issue.  Non of the
abused children that I have worked with and very few of the prisoners I work
with need thousands of dollars.  They need parents and people with values.
The numbers as they relate to child support will not ever come out right
until basic values for all people are put at the top of the list.

Based on the children and adults that I work with a lot of parents are
far over paid for what they have done. (just a play on words)  If someone
really loves people, as I do, the work is a gift of love.  I have never
and will never expect to get paid for raising my own children, helping
abuse children, working with prisoners or taking people into my home as
I have done and continue to do.  If people really loved their children as
they say they do, trying to make sure they have the most money would not
come up.  I have never been rich, but children will always be supported 
and fine as long as both my ex-wife and I support them.  Over the years
my ex-wife and I have learned to provide all of our childrens needs without
one trip to court.  We have both agreed in the end that nothing the court
system did to us was worth the distruction that they caused. .

Smile,

Dave



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