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From: kcc@wucs1.wustl.edu (Ken Cox)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Upcoming Stuff
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:46:17 GMT
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO

In article <1992Jul25.180548.7572@news.ysu.edu> ac463@yfn.ysu.edu (Rich Yauman) writes:
>I still know of 
>one DW book that I haven't found, the first one with Rincewind.

The Science Fiction Book Club currently stocks all DW novels from
_Colour of Magic_ through _Moving Pictures_, except for _Eric_ :-(.
These are hardcover, around US$7.00 each plus postage and handling.
I don't know if they ship overseas, or even to Canada.

On the subject of DW subjects (TERRY, STOP READING IF YOU WANT --
BUT I WOULD BE HONORED IF YOU EXPLOITED ME):

Computers would undoubtedly be funny, but only if it doesn't become
another _Equal Rites_/_Sourcery_/_Moving Pictures_:  the THINGS try
to break through as the immense computational power of the druid's
latest and biggest stone circle rubs a hole in the denim of the
space-time continuum.

Perhaps a love story?  A few of the books have had a romance as a
sub-plot, but there hasn't been (at least through _Moving Pictures_)
one in which that was the main focus.  You could draw on _Romeo and
Juliet_, _The Princess Bride_, _Ladyhawke_, and so forth, for the
allusive jokes.

This idea occurred to me over the weekend, when I was reading _Mort_
for about the hundredth time and got to the footnote about Mellius
and Gretelina, the tragic pair who would have been history's greatest
lovers had they not been born on different continents several centuries
apart.  (By the way, in _Moving Pictures_ Dibbler wants to promote the
click "Pelias and Melisande" as "A searing Sarger of Passion that Bridged
Spaes and Tyme!"  Is there any connection?)

Ken Cox
kcc@wucs1.wustl.edu
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From: betsyp@apollo.hp.com (Betsy Perry)
Subject: Re: Minatures and Merchandise 
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:09:11 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Jul20.205847.14961@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mblaser@nyx.cs.du.edu (Fox) writes:
>tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett) writes:
>
>>Jeez, Charles Dickens didn't have this kind of problem (Hey, Charlie, can we
>>buy the Analytical Engine game rights for 'Pickwick Papers?').  

(she slides out on a limb) If he didn't, I'll wager it's
because British Victorian copyright laws didn't cover 
non-print reproductions;  I'll bet you could buy Little Dorrit 
chamberpots, Little Nell handkerchiefs, Little Steerforth
dog-whips... whether any royalties made their way back
to Dickens is another issue.  

>Charles Dickens probably didn't go on world signing tours either *8)
(Retreating to historical fact)

Well, he did tour America.  Didn't think much of the experience,
either.  Said so at length.  We seem to have that effect
on British writers.  Can't imagine why.   (spits into
corner of room, then wipes her mouth with fistful
of dollar bills.)
-- 
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considerably outnumbered by those who would like life to be like fiction."
From: garton@jeeves.ucsd.edu (Simon Garton)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Indonesian mythology
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:22:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Why do I remember something about turtles, elephants and a flat
earth ? A friend I knew once had this gorgeous wooden statue of
the discworld, about 3ft high, only it wasn't the DiscWorld, but
the traditional Indonesian view ...

or something ...

Simon
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From: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett)
Subject: Just dropping by...                     
Cc: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:37:37 +0000


Odds and ends...

The Clarecraft address I gave a day or two ago should be Woolpit, not Woolpit
Lane -- but that doesn't matter too much, because postcodes in rural
districts of the UK pinpoint down to a couple of houses.

The Innovations DW comics: are actually getting better.  I don't
know....somehow they're getting into the swing of it, freeing things up more,
squeezing in good stuff.  I've just looked at the second TLF edition -- got a
few early copies.  Issue One of TLF is probably still around in the US and
anywhere big that imports (I known Forbidden Planet carry them); I think all
four of the TCOM ones are sold out, but RSN (like, by September, I think)
Corgi in the UK are bringing them all as a 'graphic novel' or, as I call it,
a big comic.  And I think they intend to do the same with the TLF set
eventually.

Me and Neil...oh gawd.  Yes, it's true to say we didn't agree over the way
the film should be going.  But that's about it.  There's no flying daggers --
at least, I haven't thrown any and none have hit me.

Terry


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From: cargo@cray.com (David S. Cargo)
Subject: SFBC selection
Keywords: SFBC book club selection
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:32:10 CDT


REAPER MAN is one of this month's selections from the Science Fiction
Book Club.  This is somewhat bad timing on their part, since the paper
back has been out for a while.  Many Pratchett fans have probably
already bought a copy in paperback.  Still, it's nice to see him
getting that kind of exposure.

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From: rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes)
Subject: Re: Upcoming Stuff                          
In-reply-to: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk's message of Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:01:00 +0000
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 00:39:56 EDT

In article <memo.536490@cix.compulink.co.uk> tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett) writes:

>Only You Can Save Mankind(tm) comes out in Septembner -- the 24th, I think.

Whazzat?

>Lords and Ladies (DW) comes out in hardover in early November, along with
>Witches Abroad in paperback.
>
>Johnny and the Dead will, with luck, be out around April next year, along
>with the paperback of Small Gods.
>
>Then Guards! Guards II (real title as yet unfinalised) will be out in
>hardcover in November '93 along with Lords and Ladies in paperback.

And I presume all of the above will be available in the U.S. with
inferior covers sometime in the next millenium.


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From: leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl (Leo Breebaart)
Subject: Alligator Sandwich
Reply-To: leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 08:45:20 GMT

There is a running gag in "Witches Abroad", where Granny Weatherwax
attempts to tell a joke, which of course falls horribly flat each time,
and which goes like this (paraphrazing here, I don't have the book
with me):

A man comes into a fast-food restaurant whch advertises that they can
make all kinds of sandwiches, and he says: "Give me an alligator
sandwich, quick".

I already figured I was missing something (because I can't make heads
or tails of this 'joke'), But recently I reread "Mort", and I'll be
damned if there isn't a reference to the same situation (the scene
where Harga asks Death to make him an alligator sandwich).

So now I know for sure I am not 'getting' it. Any ideas, anybody?


-- 
Leo Breebaart  (leo @ ph.tn.tudelft.nl)
Organisation: European Space Technology Centre (E.S.T.E.C)
Date: Friday, 24 Jul 1992 10:16:25 CET
From: <IBRUNTON@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: eric.gif posted to alt.binaries.pictures.misc

Hi,

   Just to do my bit for Anglo-American relations, I've posted the
front cover of ERIC.

   If it doesn't work, please email and I'll try to send it another way.

Cheers,


IAn Brunton.
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From: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett)
Subject: Unadulterated Cat                       
Cc: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:01:00 +0000

The Unadulterated Cat is coming out as a mass-market paperback RSN -- in
August, I think.

Terry
From: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: O-levels and A-levels (Re: Patrician's assassination, plus two questions)
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:05:44 GMT
Reply-To: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH


In article <1992Jul22.210249.18557@wuecl.wustl.edu>,
kcc@wucs1.wustl.edu (Ken Cox) writes:
|>
|>Second question:  In Good Omens, there is a telephone salesperson who
|>wanted to become an international jet-setter (or some such thing) but
|>her "O-levels" weren't high enough.  I've also read of "A-levels" in
|>a book by Tom Holt.  From the context, they seem to have something to
|>do with the British education system.  Would anyone care to enlighten
|>an American?

The O-levels and A-levels are achievement examinations.  Kind of like the
College Board Achievement Tests in the U.S., except given in a lot more
subjects and not used just for college admission.

--PSW
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From: uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann)
Subject: Re: Not anything to do with a.f.p at all
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 10:40:26 GMT

mblaser@nyx.cs.du.edu (Fox) writes:

>It is a tad egotistical (IMHO) but I'll post it here anyway.

Well, this is an egotistical answer, so go ahead.

>I'm asking this question here as, from what I've seen, the people who
>read this group seem to have roughly the same mindset as myself (so go
>and see a psychiatrist at once!).

Nah, it was hard enough to escape from that asylum!

>What I want to know is, do people think that posting things under an alias
>(in my case Fox) is a tad stupid or is it generally thought of as 'just
>one of those things'?

It's tad stupid but, on the other hand, so are we, so that's okay.

>I've noticed that with my own posts people tend to 
>reply to 'Mike' and not to 'Fox' and it caused me to wonder.  The alias 'Fox'
>has been with me for a number of years now but maybe it's time to grow out of
>nicknames?  I don't know.  Which is why I asking here.

Extinguish any indication as to what your real name might be and it will
stop. You'll also be able to flame without the annoying bad conscience
thereafter. That's what the others try to get you with by calling you
Mike. Ignore them! What do they know!  :-)
(The only reason I'm keeping my name is my secret delight imagining peo-
ple trying to figure out how to pronounce it. Won't tell, won't tell!)


May the Cool Call Be with You!

(C)OOL mcmxcii
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From: leveret@warren.demon.co.uk (Nick Leverton)
Subject: Patrician's assassination, plus two questions
Distribution: world
Organization: Indexed; Access: Random.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 18:31:18 +0000

In article <dxgmprg.jrs@netcom.com> jrs@netcom.com writes:

>In article <1992Jul23.122024.13169@vela.acs.oakland.edu>> mwlucas@vela.acs.oakland.edu ( ) writes:
>>This is the only newsgroup that I've been on since its creation that hasn't
>>had a good, old-fashioned, all-out flamefest/rumorfest/backstabbing-growling-
>>throwing-things-even-quite-heavy-furniture-fest.

[...]

>P.S. Shouldn't that really be "Diskworld?"

You tryin' to start something, bud ?

:-) <---- NOTE !!!

Anyway, he's a British author and so his titles obviously ought to be
spelt the British way.

Nick Leverton
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From: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett)
Subject: Re: Johnny and the Dead                 
Cc: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:01:00 +0000

YA means Young Adult means vaguely adolescent.  YA books have fewer teddy
bears and more inner city grit.

Terry
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From: mblaser@nyx.cs.du.edu (Fox)
Subject: Re: Yawn.
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 22:22:14 GMT

DISCLAIMER 

For those people who wish to flame people who attempt to be witty
in their writing I should like to point out that, personally 
speaking, what I write in this group have no extra attempts
at being witty than anything else I write.  So there!

Fox

"Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean their not out to get me!"

<character in Dark Side Of the sun I forgot the name of>


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From: uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann)
Subject: Once more about the comics
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:37:56 GMT
Keywords: comics

I have ordered the TCoM and TLF comics recently but haven't got them yet
so far. Therefore I'd like to verify a few data about them.

The source from whom I know about them said the publisher was "Imagina-
tion Comics", although the recent talk was about "Innovation Comics".
Since I got my info from America I'd also like to know whether its a
British or an American publisher, and if it's an American one is there a
British one, too? Access might be easier for me then. (If it is possible
at all. It's not so easy with records and comics in Germany.)


May Cool Replies Be with Me Soon!

(C)OOL mcmxcii
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From: drich@sandman.lerc.nasa.gov (Daniel Rich)
Subject: Re: You geeks
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:29:55 GMT

Just to let you know, I just got mail from the owner of the account
this was posted from.  He says it was a forgery (and I offered to help
him remove several unimportant organs from the person who posted
it--say his fingers).

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From: rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes)
Subject: Re: Reepor Man                              
In-reply-to: johnf@apollo.hp.com's message of Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:01:57 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 00:37:18 EDT

In article <BrsvB9.FrL@apollo.hp.com> johnf@apollo.hp.com (John Francis) writes:

>I thought it was accepted practice to hit things with rocks, and not the
>other way around?  Although I do seem to recall a flying rock being hit
>with a wizzard and a tourist . .
>
>Oh - you said Roc?  Never mind!

Hitting a roc is a bad idea, too, unless you manage to kill it on the
first try.

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From: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett)
Subject: Journalism                              
Cc: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:57:59 +0000

Fox asks (sorry I can't do all the message type stuff with this system --
well, I can, but only by painstakingly cutting and pasting) about journalism
and the effects thereof.

Yes, Dave Gemmell and Neil Gaiman were both journalists.  So was Bob Shaw. So
was I.  It's good trainging because:
1) any tendency to writers' block is burned out of you within a few weeks of
starting work by unsympathetic news editors;
2) you very quickly learn the direct link between writing and eating;
3) you pick up a style of sorts;
4) you get to hang around in interesting places;
5) you learn to take editing in your stride, and tend to be reliable about
deadlines;
6) you end up with an ability to think at the keyboard and reduce the world
to yourself and the work in hand -- you have to do this to survive in a world
of ringing telelphones and shouting sub-editors.

None of this makes you talented or _good_, but it does help you make the best
of what you've got.

Application?  Well, it means...application.  The single-minded ability to
knuckle down and get on with it, as they say in Unseen University library.


Terry
From: nlc@vulcan.xtel.co.uk (Neil Cook)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Newsfeed
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:45:11 GMT
Organization: X-Tel Services Ltd.

Why do I get all the postings in this group the wrong way round?

I read people's postings from Finland relating to a message which Terry
posted in Britain, which I still haven't got! I've pieced together the whole
message from different Re:s by the time the original post gets to me!

When I have scanned in (colour) all the discworld covers I have got, 
(up to Reaperman),
I will post them en masse to a.b.p.m, along with an ensemble of all the covers
in one gif.

Neil Cook.
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From: mblaser@nyx.cs.du.edu (mike blaser)
Subject: Re: DW ideas
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 15:55:32 GMT


Heh heh heh. Why do I have visions of masked hero riding the 'Wombatmobile'
through the streets of Ankh-Moorpork?

Ok, here's an addition to the FAQ.

Q. Is it ok for me to write my own ideas and plot lines for the Discworld
   in a.f.p if I think they are any good?

A. Sure, BUT remember to put TDRT>at the start of the subject title. This
   stands for 'Terry Don't Read This' for the simple reason that, if there's
   one thing an author hates it's other people thinking up his ideas before 
   him.  And, seeing as Terry reads this news group, 'greatest fan number one'
   could become 'public enemy number one'.



>To Terry

Out of interest, why don't you like using other people's ideas?  I would have
thought that if someone tells an author an idea which would work in that
author's world then it would be an open invitation to use that idea?



Fox, who wishes his account didn't keep disappearing up its own microchips.


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From: daniel@csunb0.dcs.leeds.ac.uk (D N Crow)
Subject: Re: New Questions for the FAQ
Organization: School of Computer Studies, University of Leeds
Distribution: scs
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 19:07:05 GMT
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X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <RSHOLMES.92Jul24002544@rodan.syr.EDU>, rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes) writes:
> In article <54765@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> nickles@sage.cc.purdue.edu (john a nickles) writes:
> 
> >Q: Is this the only newsgroup in which the object of affection himself
> >appears?
> >
> >To the best of our knowledge.
> 
> I'm told that Mike Jittlov visits his fan newsgroup.
> 
> Then there's Kibo, of course, who reads all 3 (at last count) of his
> fan groups.
> 
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Its four now and Kibo doesn't count for *anything*.

There is also alt.cyberpunk which Tom Maddox frequently contributes to.

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From: guest@scinet.up.ac.za (Guest van WISNAT)
Subject: morris
Summary: What is the morris dance ?
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:14:49 GMT
Organization: University of Pretoria
Keywords: literature humor minor

Anyone know what the Morris dance in Reaper Man is ? It seems to be put 
into the book for some deep symbolical reason (although, looking for 
multilevel interpretations may be pushing it a bit).
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From: cgreuter@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Chris Reuter)
Subject: Re: Patrician's assassination, plus two questions
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 01:07:38 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.210249.18557@wuecl.wustl.edu> kcc@wucs1.wustl.edu (Ken Cox) writes:
>entitled "668: The Neighbor of the Beast", was contemplated.  Is such

I'm not sure if this applies but the above title was used by some rock group
(who's name I don't remember) for an album.  This would seem to imply that the 
sequel to Good Omens is just a rumour.  Besides, I recall reading here that 
TP and NG have had a falling out over the movie rights to GO.  
(Actually, it would be nice to get some details on that, lest rumours of 
death threats and blood feuds start to circulate.)



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From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: DW setting and typoes
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 01:49:58 GMT

In article <4177@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> gordon@robots.oxford.ac.uk (Gordon Buxton) writes:
>(maybe my comic timing is slipping).

I had my comic timing chain slip once. Next thing I know my drive was rotating
backwards and the backlash from the valve chatter left me with a headache for
a week. Worse than when my mental stack overflowed and dumped core right in
the middle of my motivation.
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From: wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu (David Wald)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: morris
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:32:30 GMT
Organization: Laboratory for Computer Science, MIT

In article <1992Jul29.193032.12151@rdg.dec.com>
winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski) writes:

>Whenever I ask any of my British friends what Morris dancing is all I
>get is embarrassed laughs and evasive answers.  This confused
>American conjectures that it's some sort of demented British folk
>dance that involves wearing bells, waving handkerchiefs, and hitting
>people with sticks.

The last only happens when someone screws up, I think.

>Unfortunately, I lack the proper cultural context to understand
>T.P.'s references to Morris dancing in Reaper Man.

On the other hand, I know quite a few American Morris dancers who
eagerly awaited the Roc edition of Reaper Man, mainly so they could
read the beginning (and end, but no one had warned them about that).
I've yet to see any disappointed.  Hysterical, sometimes, and gasping
for breath, but never disappointed.

-David
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