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From: forrie@morwyn.uucp (Forrest Aldrich)
Subject: Astrolog program
Organization: Vision Graphics
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:55:59 GMT
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I've recently retrieved the files for astrolog 2.30 (why aren't they
in a *.tar.Z archive?) and compiled them... 

Even though there was a correction to change a couple of variables,
I'm still getting the Bus Error - core dumped message, and astrolog 
won't work. (and I've no luck in corresponding with the author)

My platform is:  AT&T 3b1, 4 meg RAM, 68010 processor, using GCC.  I've
never had this problem with the previous versions of astrolog, and am
wondering if anyone has solved this dilemma or could help me do so... I
would appreciate it greatly!

ALSO:  I'm wondering if there are any programs out there which will generate
accurate Ephemeris and Table of Houses for astrolgical use?  I'm assuming that
the companies which publish the hardcopy Ephemeris books use a proprietary
program to make these calculations...  further info on this would also
be much appreciated,


Thank you.

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Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: joanie@tigerrr.Eng.Sun.COM (Joan LeFevre)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Gemini twins - personalities, etc...
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:16:29 GMT
Reply-To: joanie@tigerrr.Eng.Sun.COM
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Cc: joanie@tigerrr.Eng.Sun.COM

(Please forgive me if this is duplicate mail - the first article sent seemed to have
been lost somewhere out there.)

**If this subject is inappropriate for this newsgroup, please direct me accordingly.**


Can anyone tell me the story behind the Gemini "twins"? IS there a story? Was one
a good twin and the other a bad twin? Are they at odds or "pals"?

I'm very interested in finding more information about how astrology really affects one's personality, moods, actions, etc... Gemini and Taurus in particular. (BESIDES
horoscopes you read in papers and magazines - I want more facts than entertainment
columns.)

Any suggestions on books and reading materials is appreciated.



Thanks much,
Joanie

Reply to joanie@tigerrr.Eng.Sun.COM    OR    joanie.lefevre@EBB.Eng.Sun.COM
From: stacey@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Stacey B. Martin)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: MARS
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:09:04 GMT
Organization: AUS
Originator: news@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu

In article <BvpvxJ.42L@exnet.co.uk>, s0xjg@exnet.co.uk (Xavier Gallagher) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Oct5.145936.29292@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> stacey@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Stacey B. Martin) writes:
> >In article <BvLHup.30s@exnet.co.uk>, s0xjg@exnet.co.uk (Xavier Gallagher) writes: 
> >> Well,not quite.
> >> Mars is in cancer and thus in its fall.  This makes it weak and ineffectual.
> >> When Mars goes retrograde it becomes even weaker and even less prominent.
> >
> >any planet in its fall to be weak and ineffectual. The problem exists in attempting
> >to live the energy of a planet and sign that are incompatible.
> 
>   Mars in capricorn means that the energy of mars is used effectively.  It is
> not dissipated or frittered away.  Mars in cancer means that the energy shoots
> in all directions and is not constructively directed (aspects and houses 
> willing)
> >
> >I have Mars in Cancer, and it IS a pain in the ass. The absolute, most important
> >thing to learn about it is to let it be. Mars in Cancer can't make a move until
> >it FEELS that it's OK to do so, which is totally antithetical to the nature of Mars.
> 
> Mars stopped by emotion.  You are just proving my point.
> >
> >I also do NOT believe that planets in retrograde are weak. In fact, they sometimes
> >can become overpowering because the energy is turned INWARD and is no longer
> >externalized. Well, the whole point of looking at a chart is to become conscious
> 
> Try Yoga or counselling.  The whole point of charts is to find things out.  Not
> just psychic stuff but real stuff that gets in the way.  If the energy of a 
> planet is turned inwards it is only *effective* on you.  If something (anything)
> can only effect one person/object I personally do not call it strong.
> 
> >
> >As a final comment, would you REALLY tell a client that a planet they had was in its
> >fall? How useless! Why not tell them instead the problems and benefits of a planet in
> >a sign and to learn to love it, coz it's all they have. 
> >
> 
> You do not go to a dentist to be lied to.  
> Good news astrologers are like dentists who never give fillings.
> The purpose of astrology is so that we know the effects of the stars and can
> handle them and counter them.  Its not all they have,ever heard of free will?
> 
> >Actually, you couldn't pay me to have a Mars in Aries. :-)
> >
> >Stacey
> 
> I have Mars in Libra.  Having seen Mars in Capricorn in action I will swap
> it any day.
> 
> Xavier
> 
> 
One more thing. Or maybe two more things. (Uh-oh. I think my mars in Cancer is acting up.
:-) )  Free will is not trying to change something that inherently will not change. For
instance, my mars in cancer conjunct my uranus in cancer. Free will comes into play when
you make the choices on how you're gonna use it. 

S.
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: "jim kane" <jim.kane@canrem.com>
Subject: zodiac constellation
Reply-To: "jim kane" <jim.kane@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 10 Oct 92 12:10:34 EST

Tony Alicea, replied;

TA>A small but powerful & knowledgeable: COSMOBIOLOGY. I've been with it
TA>far a *long* time. I am convinced that 'planetary pictures' and
TA>midpoints convey as much if not *more* insight into an interpretation
TA>of a chart... Ah, yes, I forgot Houses... Not needed in COSMOBIOLOGY.

   I've read a little about it, I forget where. Do you use the signs at
   all? Or just the angular relationships? Do you include Harmonics?
   I would be interested in hearing more about it, if you have the time.
   Any recommended books on the subject?

                                         Jim Kane
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From: ramhcl@suncap.Corp.Sun.COM (Ramprakash Narayanaswamy)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: HELP ME !!!! Looking for books .. Please recommend some good text
Date: 10 Oct 92 00:09:40 GMT
Reply-To: ramhcl@suncap.Corp.Sun.COM (Ramprakash Narayanaswamy)
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
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Hi astrologers,

I am looking for some books which would provide me :

1. The formulae for planetary positions

2. The formulae for House cuspal positions

I don't mind spending lot of time on this.

Please let me know some Author(s)/Title(s).

Thanks in advance.

Anticipating your(s) reply ??

Ram.
From: ch981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Alicea)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: nancy reagan (Sirius conjunct part of fortune)
Date: 10 Oct 1992 18:46:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ch981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Alicea)
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In a previous article, tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu () says:

>In article <1a1d93INNi8i@agate.berkeley.edu> tedrick@bongo.Berkeley.EDU (Tom Tedrick) writes:
>>What would astrologers say about having Sirius conjunct part of fortune
>>in the 8th house? That's always puzzled me.
>
>Good luck regarding death, taxes and other people's money would be my
>guess. Look for timely inheritances, lucky tax breaks and finding $20
>bills in the gutter. (I'm just guessing based on the symbolism mind
>you, but that is what it seems to indicate.)
>
Tad:

I think the part of forutne and stars are not needed to make sense of
astrology, IMHO. I even doubt houses AND signs! Have you heard of
COSMOBIOLOGY?

Saludos,

Tony

-- 
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Annapolis
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: ecsd@tfs.com (Eric C. S. Dynamic)
Subject: Re: Dave's chart
Organization: TRW Financial Systems
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 10:03:27 GMT

stacey@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Stacey B. Martin) writes:
>I just got to read Eric's brief interpretation of Dave's chart and finally
>got to see Dave's chart.
> [ her interpretation follows. ]

Thanks for reading it too. We have different styles, and frankly, in the
number of words we expended on it, I think yours is much more cogent and
complete - *admiration* *sigh*. Since I'm doing these for a demo, I'll want
to be being much more attentive to my next - I'm not finished with Dave's,
if he engages with me in conversation about it. That's my point there (in
ROM) - to demo A style, and show how I do it, anyway - i.e. where it goes
between astrologer and client. I'm much more suffusive than you are, it
haunts me a bit. I should never hang out stereotypes without fleshing them
out on the spot (Moon Tau == conservative, e.g.)

Stacey - not that you care, maybe, but there are several charts pending to
read in ROM; my point there was to show the 'occult' fact of being able to
read a person to themself through the chart, sight unseen, to a fair degree
(which the stalwart skeptics doubt), then to go on to show what astrology
does. They all think it's some sort of mechanical discipline or something,
not an organic human thing (don't they skeptics all ...) --- so, if you'd
like to read an unread-as-yet chart I can send info, and/or you can supply
your own version of a chart - a second opinion, which in fact will show these
people how widely methods and outlooks vary (while if they are smart, they
will see some correspondences) - then let me know.

If your reading of Dave's chart was not crossposted to rec.org.mensa, do you
mind if I post a copy?

I'd also be curious as to your assessment of what I wrote about Dave, as I
have not much feel for the character of my style. As re: advice, you gave
him much more advice than I did. So the Davester already had Saturn bash him -
ah, my psyche says that's what it's all about, his being here, brooding,
hounding us, prove it, prove it, until he sees himself rushing at himself in
the mirror.

Jeez, Stacey, thanks.

-ecsd
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: astrolog@byron.u.washington.edu (Walter D. Pullen)
Subject: Jupiter enters Libra tomorrow !!!
Summary: Don't miss it :)
Keywords: Jupiter, Libra
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:10:46 GMT


At precisely 6:47am PDT (that's 9:47am EDT for you on the East coast
or 1:47pm GMT) Jupiter leaves Virgo and enters Libra! Jupiter will go
retrograde in the middle part of 1993 but will only go back to the
early degrees of Libra, so it won't enter Virgo again for another 12
years. This is the only major sign change of an outer planet for all
of 1992, so this could be called the Astrological Event of the Year!
The time above is what Astrolog gave for the sign change; my Jim
Maynard's "Celestial Guide" gives the time as 6:28am PDT, 19 minutes
earlier, but then the outer planets move so slowly that such precise
times are difficult to determine. Personally this will be a more
friendly time for me, because Jupiter had been squaring all my 5
planets in Sagittarius (which Jupiter rules) in the past year. So
anyway, be aware of a major shift in the type of energy in the Jupiter
Beam tomorrow morning, and do whatever you like to celebrate the event :)

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From: kap@eng.cam.ac.uk (Kevin A. Price)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Eric Dynamic
Date: 9 Oct 92 08:17:58 GMT
Organization: cam.eng

Could Eric Dynamic please e-mail rich@convergent.com about the 
Matrix Software and the Meeus routines. As the original article
that I posted was posted for rich@convergent.com. And I've now
lost Eric's e-mail address.

Cheers

Kev :)
e-mail kap@eng.cam.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: mrcarl@carson.u.washington.edu (Mark Carlson)
Subject: Astrology Discussion Topic No. 3
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:13:09 GMT

Forwarded by Mark Carlson from IO20951@MAINE.bitnet:

Charts on pets
Yes, I have run a chart on my cat.  But it's only an approximate
one, because I know she was born on Feb. 14, 1989, sometime around
midnight or 1 a.m.  So I ran the chart for that, and I came up
with the fact that Shaughnessy (the cat) is an aquarius with sun
in 4th house, which makes sense.  She's a very aquarian looking cat;
her fur coloration and general demeanor is unusual.  And, along with
the sun in 4th house theme, she's a real homebody, very domesticated
and nurturing.  She's also a big "talker"; she's always meowing
and I swear I can hear her make words out of her meows.
We get along very well, which is surprising since I myself am a
Virgo.  But I'm a Virgo, sun in 10th house, exactly conjunct Uranus
(about 20 minutes of 1 degree off; applying), which according
to some sources makes me an "honorary Aquarian."
Just thought I'd like to give a reply to your bit about
charts on pets ... oh, by the way; can you tell me how I can
post to alt.astrology?  I've got some questions I'd love to
put out for everyone.
Thanks ahead of time.
Peace & freedom,
JaneA


Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: jdhelter@IASTATE.EDU (Jeffrey Helterbrand)
Subject: Re: Scientific Nazis (was: a new, improved proposed test, thanks to thomas david kehoe)
Reply-To: jdhelter@IASTATE.EDU (Jeffrey Helterbrand)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:58:39 GMT

Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: mjp@itd.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: General Characterstics Based On Sun Signs
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:51:22 GMT

senthils@netcom.com (Senthil Sankarappan) writes:

>        LIBRA (Sept 23 - Oct 22)
>You are the artistic type and have a difficult time with reality.  If
>you are a man, you are more than likely gay.  Chances for employment
>and monetary gains are excellent.  Most Libra women are prostitutes.
>All Libra people die of Venereal disease.

Great interpretation here. Seriously though anyone know of
astrological indications of sexuality?



>        CAPRICORN (Dec 23 - Jan 19)
>You are conservative and afraid of taking risks.  You don't do much of
>anything and are lazy.  There has never been a Capricorn of any
>importance.  Capricorns should avoid standing still for too long as
>they take root and become trees.

The others are funny, this one is just wrong. Capricorns are
anything but lazy.

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Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: s0xjg@exnet.co.uk (Xavier Gallagher)
Subject: Mars effect
Organization: ExNet Systems Ltd Public Access News, London, UK
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:48:42 GMT

I was looking at the mars effect just a couple of days ago and the
fact that the peak effect occured in the wrong houses (ie 12th, 9th,
3rd and 6th) made me wonder if there is some chance that the houses
have been somehow rotated taking the angular houses and putting them in the
succedent houses?

It is just a thought but it will explain a couple of puzzling things that
I have noticed when timing transiting midpoints going angular.

Xavier.
From: Carole@brownvm (Carolyn Egan)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: aspect interpretation
Followup-To: alt.astrology
Date: 13 Oct 1992 14:50:48 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Distribution: alt
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>     Ahh... Progress!
> 
>    I prefer the charts that have all twelves signs, 360 degrees, visible
>    on the outer circle. It's helps us keep in mind that *everybody* has
>    all twelves signs in their chart. The marked 360 degrees also shows
>    the proper angular relationships (aspects)  between planets at a
>    glance.  A must when studying a chart is to draw in coloured aspect
>    lines.  I use;
> 
>                  Squares - red    Oppositions - yellow
>                  conjunctions - red  sextiles - blue  trines - green
>                  inconjuncts - orange.


I'm wondering if others would share their methods of marking aspects.  I
prefer to use red for all the hard aspects - squ, oppo & broken red line
for inconj.  For the soft aspect, blue and green for the sextile.  Using
the red for the hard aspects allows one to see very clearly the t-squares
and grand cross, yod at a glance.  
Regards, Carol
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: ecsd@tfs.com (Eric C. S. Dynamic)
Subject: The same case study in the unresponsive-when-they-wannabe
Organization: TRW Financial Systems
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 10:04:57 GMT

sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane) writes:
>> casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (CASPER,DAVI./PPE) writes:
>> Wrong.  I don't feel I have a duty.  I'm just here for fun and enlightenment.
>
>Let me get this straight. You ENJOY annoying people?

Yup. His chart says so. Makes him feel.
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: s914311@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Kasra)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Should it have happened???
Keywords: bad day
Date: 9 Oct 92 06:53:46 GMT


	I was just wondering if someone could do a check on something for me.
The day was 7th Oct this year (Wednesday), and it was about 11:30 am.
	The problem was was that I am buying a house and I had a little 
argument with the people I am buying the house off.  
	My question is.  Will this affect the house in any way (I am having
it built and it is nearly done)?
	If someone could check this out I would be most greatful as I am a
bit apprehensive at the moment.
	My birth data is as follows :-
		Born on November 30, 1972	(yes I am 19)
		Born in Melbourne Australia (144'58E , 37'45S)
		At 13:52 (+10 GMT) (I have subtracted the one hour
	for our summer day light savings)

P.S.  I am buying the house with a friend of mine.  
I think that because we were both involved, I should include his.
		Born on April 14, 1973
		Born in Melbourne Australia
		But I am not sure of the time.

If someone could reassure me, I would be greatful.

 ----------------------------------------------------------
|John Oliver                   |   The only thing worth    |
|s914311@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au |  fearing is fear itself   |
|+61 3 789-4013                |      %lost in time%       |
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From: mjp@itd.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: Chart interpretation
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:25:59 GMT

wincerw@shrvsun1.cc.purdue.edu (Bill Wincer) writes:

This is what I love about astrology.

>This really
>hit me because it was telling me stuff about myself that I never tell anyone,
>and yet this general book knew more about me than my friends and family.

You only have to read this to hear the scorpio alarm bells
ringing loudly. And voila

>Oh yeah, my birth info is:
>                     birth date:  November 4, 1974
>                     birth place:  Bangkok, Thailand
>                     birth time:  11:35 am 

ringing true.

Michael
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From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: another case study in hatefulness by the "open-minded"
Date: 7 Oct 92 09:34:25 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <7OCT199202095805@vxcrna.cern.ch>,
 casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (CASPER,DAVI./PPE) writes:
> Wrong.  I don't feel I have a duty.  I'm just here for fun and enlightenment.

Let me get this straight. You ENJOY annoying people?

There is a newsgroup specifically designed for skeptical articles such
as yours, sci.skeptic. If you must post skeptical articles, at least
have the courtesy to post them in the proper newsgroup.
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From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:59:44 GMT
Subject: Please Help
Organization: HP Western Response Center
Newsgroups: alt.astrology

              Please answer these 9 questions and return.

1.) Do you think equal rights for men and women is generally a good idea?
Yes                  [ ]
Sometimes            [ ]
No                   [ ]
Haven't heard enough [ ]
Other                [ ]

2.) Are you pro choice?
Yes                  [ ]
Sometimes            [ ]
No                   [ ]
Haven't heard enough [ ]
Other                [ ]

3.) Are you in favor of adoption?
Yes                  [ ]
Sometimes            [ ]
No                   [ ]
Haven't heard enough [ ]
Other                [ ]

4.) Do you think men should be allowed to legally terminate their parental
rights and responsibilities before fetal viability?
Yes                  [ ]
Sometimes            [ ]
No                   [ ]
Haven't heard enough [ ]
Other                [ ]

5.) What sex are you?
Male               [ ]
Female             [ ]

6.) How old are you?
Under 18           [ ]
19 to 65           [ ]
Over 65            [ ]

7.) What religion are you?
Protestant         [ ]
Catholic           [ ]
Jewish             [ ]
Other              [ ]

8.) What political party are you affiliated with?
Democratic         [ ]
Republican         [ ]
Other              [ ]

9.) How many years of education have you completed?
Grade School       [ ]
High School        [ ]
College            [ ]
More               [ ]
From: mjp@itd.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: Full Moon
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:23:40 GMT
 <1aq6drINN1kf@agate.berkeley.edu> <92279.161042RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>

RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu writes:

> 2) you may argue the first point, conceivably.  not a very safe argument,
>    but you may argue it nonetheless.  however, this second point is
>    irrefutable: THE FULL MOON HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TIDES.  tides occur
>    daily, not monthly.

Full moon => sun opp moon, dark moon <=> sun conj moon	
these are the times when the gravitational effects of the
sun and moon cancel or add along the same vector hence they
cause the maximum disturbance to our waters, of course they
have something to do with the tides. How unscientific.


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