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From: lindner@mudhoney.micro.umn.edu (Paul Lindner)
Subject: Re: How do I avoid indexing the .cache files
Keywords: .cache, waisindexing, searching
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 00:03:58 GMT

In <mtm.727736234@CAMIS> mtm@CAMIS.Stanford.EDU (Mike Macgirvin) writes:

>hanusj@ava.bcc.orst.edu (Joe Hanus) writes:

>>We've waisindexed several directories full of biological data.
>>Gopher searches turn up the .cache files as hits since they contain
>>the search strings.  How do we avoid producing entries in the index
>>for the .caches?

>	I usually use the following to index directories and bypass
>dot files:

>waisindex -d .index/index "`find . -type f -print | grep -v '/\.'`"

>You can modify this as necessary to exclude specific filenames by
>either chaining grep commands or perhaps using "egrep" and its logical
>"or" construct instead.

You can also use the -stdin option to waisindex, as follows:

find /files.to.be.indexed -type f -print| grep -v '/\.' | grep -v \
'.hqx' |waisindex -stdin

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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: silvert@cs.dal.ca (Bill Silvert)
Subject: Questions about MIME and PCgopher
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:10:04 GMT

I finally got PC Gopher (1.05r2) to work, thanks to a new network card.
I have a couple of questions about it and about MIME support.

Is it possible to get PC Gopher to recognize graphics and MIME file
types?  Presently they don't even appear in the menus, so that I can't
even use gopher to download GIF files.  As for MIME, I should think that
PC Gopher should be able to display the various text attributes (and I
can see them when I read MIME mail from the PC with ELM), but the MIME
files don't even appear.

Finally, does anyone have any experience getting goper to be compatible
with Banyan Vines?  Once I've used one I have to reboot before I use the
other, which is a pain, and of course I can't run gopher from within BV.
-- 
William Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division, Bedford Inst. of Oceanography
P. O. Box 1006, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CANADA B2Y 4A2.  Tel. (902)426-1577
InterNet Address: silvert@biome.bio.ns.ca
From: fogel@jester.usask.ca (Earl Fogel)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: vms gopher client?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 16:28:38 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: jester.usask.ca

In article <1jh8a8INNsbf@lynx.unm.edu> datkins@carina.unm.edu (Drexel Atkinson CIRT) writes:
> 
>I decided to put up a vms gopher client and server to play with, and am 
>having some confusion on which to put up. There appear to be two of them in
>the gopher  directory on boombox.micro.  One is in a compressed tar format
>while the other is in two directories (client/server).  Which is the right
>one, or are they really both the same.  

Quoting from the 00README file in the gopher/VMS directory at boombox:

    In this directory you will find versions of gopher for VMS.
     
    Version 0.6 includes a client and server ported by Mark Van Overbeke.
     
    Version 1.12 includes a client (*NOT* a server) ported by JQ Johnson
    and Earl Fogel.  This version is the same code as the Unix version.
 
 
Earl Fogel
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From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: Gopher Server under Linux or BSD386?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 21:34:34 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Philip M. Howard (phoward@ac.dal.ca) wrote:
: Our site is considering a "low cost Unix" option for our Gopher server
: platform. Has anyone had any experience with a 386/486 running Linux or BSD386?
: In short... Does it work? Is it difficult?

gopher.msen.com is running on a 486 under BSDI.  Works just fine.
Running under 386BSD should work OK too.

I have had some nagging problems getting the byte order in the
WAIS server code to compile, tho - it's probably ten lines of
code to fix all told, and I know which ten, just dont' quite know
what to do with them.

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 GLOB

Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: Dierk.Lucyga@popserver.uni-konstanz.de (Dierk Lucyga)
Subject: Gopher and waisindex on SUN (sic!)
Organization: Universitaet Konstanz Rechenzentrum
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:19:32 GMT

Hi,
I have a variation on Q16 in the FAQ:

Im running a SUN SS10 with SUNOS 4.1.3

I made WAIS-8-B5 successfully. I made the links from the gopher 
sourcedirectory (Gopher 1.11b) with "ln -s ...."

When I try to make Gopher I get the following:
(...stuff deleted...)
/usr/5bin/cc -g -DDATA_DIRECTORY=\"/home/theoris/gopher-data\"  -
DDOMAIN_NAME=\".rz.uni-konstanz.de\"  -DGOPHER_PORT=70  -DWAISSEARCH  -
DBIO    -I../object -I.. -I../ir -I../ui -c Waisindex.c
"Waisindex.c", line 192: warning: illegal combination of pointer and integer, op
 =
"Waisindex.c", line 195: gDelimiters undefined
"Waisindex.c", line 196: wordDelimiter undefined
"Waisindex.c", line 196: wordbreak_user undefined
"Waisindex.c", line 199: wordDelimiter undefined
"Waisindex.c", line 199: wordbreak_notalnum undefined

Can someone point to the answer?

/Dierk Lucyga
Dierk Lucyga           |  Internet: Dierk.Lucyga@popserver.uni-konstanz.de
Infomation Manager     |  Bitnet:   RZLUCY@DKNKURZ1
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Postfach 5560          |
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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: walker@cae.wisc.edu (George Walker)
Subject: Re: Gopher for LWP
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 24 Jan 93 10:59:49 CST
Keywords: gopher, novell



I have version 1.1 or 1.2 and I believe you can find it at the ftp site:
	lennon.itn.med.umich.edu.

Good luck.

George



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Univerisity Of Wisconsin - Madison
1410 Johnson St.  Rm. 283         
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From: rbraun@concert.net (Robin Braun)
Subject: FTP/Gopher
Original-To: gopher-news@boombox.micro.umn.edu
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:40:58 -0500 (EST)
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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
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I am new to the gopher environment, and I am having
difficulty establishing an FTP gateway under gopher.
When I try to access the FTP entry it returns
"Nothing Available". I am running gopher1.1 on Ultrix v.4.1
and Mach 2.1. At this point I am completely frustrated and baffled by
this problem. Thanks for your help in advance.

Robin Braun
From: andrew@bransle.ucs.mun.ca (Andrew Draskoy)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: [UPDATE] Problem with Gopher FTP access to some sites
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:11:04 GMT
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland

Aside from machines which don't implement PASV, there are also a number
that implement it incorrectly, apparently including some standard variants
of UNIX, although I've been unable to tell exactly which ones so far.  At
least on standard variant gives back a number on the order of 2^30 instead
of the last octet in the port number.  I'm still looking into this and
will post again when I find out more.

Andrew
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: Eric Lease Morgan <eric_morgn@ncsu.edu>
Subject: Re: trouble with searches on PC client
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A789B3C65601184D@ericmorgan.lib.ncsu.edu>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 25 Jan 93 15:12:06 GMT
Organization: NCSU Libraries
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:04:14 GMT

In article <C1FC9F.HFu@news2.cis.umn.edu> Paul Lindner,
lindner@danzig.micro.umn.edu writes:
>I beleive the PC client is hitting the Pascal string size limits (256
>characters)  A textual representation of a wais document id can be
>longer than that...

I suppose my solution is to shorten the path to my wais indexes/documents.
What do y'all thinque?

Eric Lease Morgan
From: gerstel@University of Pennsylvania (Brian Gerstel)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Gopher for LWP
Keywords: gopher, novell
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:48:12 GMT
Organization: Institute for Research on Higher Education

The only gopher client for Lan Workplace for DOS that I've been able to find 
is UMich's Gopher curses client.  (from /gopher/incoming on boombox)  But 
this client was compiled in November '92, and is version 0.96 - is there a 
more recent version, or a more stable implementation??  Anything that
doesn't even dare call itself "Version 1" is suspect in my mind...
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Individually customizing veronica's output?
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:09:37 GMT


Is there anything that I can do as a user (not administrator) to customize
the appearance of the menu that Veronica returns?  For instance, I would
like to have all the idx, tel, etc special entries first, menu headings
next, and text files last.  I would also like to have a unique list of
entities - perhaps only the first appearance of a particular subject line.
Sure, I may lose some info, but it's better than looking a 5-10 occurances
of the same subject, and discovering they are all the same.
-- 
Larry W. Virden                 UUCP: osu-cis!chemabs!lvirden
Same Mbox: BITNET: lvirden@cas  INET: lvirden@cas.org
Personal: 674 Falls Place,   Reynoldsburg, OH 43068-1614
From: gtapolow@nyx.cs.du.edu (Greg Tapolow)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: FTP QUESTIONS (through gopher)
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:46:41 GMT
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.


Just a quick question about the ftp interface for gopher.

is it possible to pass a username and password to the ftp site? My home
system allows ftp for all users but does not support anonymous.

Thanks.

	Greg

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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: uetrecht@tornado.cc.umr.edu (Daniel J. Uetrecht)
Subject: Displaying disclaimers when selecting objects
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:55:04 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University

Our administration would like to display disclaimers when a user selects
certain gopher objects.  For example, when a user wants to view Usenet
News through our gopher we would like to 1st display a disclaimer.

Any thought on how this might be accomplished?

Thanks for any ideas here!!

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UMR Computing Services                           Email uetrecht@UMR.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: lindner@mudhoney.micro.umn.edu (Paul Lindner)
Subject: Re: Gopherising FAQ files
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:40:14 GMT

In <7475@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> zlsiimw@info.mcc.ac.uk (Mark Whidby) writes:

>In article <1993Jan25.183335.28005@ohm.york.ac.uk>, nigelm@ohm.york.ac.uk (Nigel
>Metheringham) writes:
><stuff deleted>
>|> So of the types already handled by WAIS, it would seem best to munge
>|> FAQs into a dash separated format, where each section is separated
>|> by a line of dashes.   The first line following the dashes is the
>|> section identifier.  This leaves the FAQ still readable, but able to
>|> be directly indexed by WAIS.  A script can be written to modify most
>|> FAQ sets into this format quite easily.
><stuff deleted>

>My experience of using the -t dash option to waisindex stuff hasn't been
>very good; it works but when gopher displays the items returned it seems
>to display a significant amount of each section as the title rather than
>just the first line following the row of dashes. I get much nicer results
>if I convert the dashes to a blank line and use -t para. Anybody else had
>this experience or is it just me?


The headline fcn for -t dash ignores newlines..  Thus you get the
maximum WAIS headline (100 chars?)

This is good for some applications and lousy for others..  
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From: ward@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Lynn Ward)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Problem with Netfind
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:28:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.C1H1wL.Fo4
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


I know this is not a problem with Gopher specifically, but I'm not sure
to whom I should turn.  There seems to be a problem with the various 
netfind servers available through gopher.  Most indicate, when you log on,
that the default number of lines per screen is 24, but the output of a query
scrolls continuously until the end, rather than being piped through a pager of
some sort.  There is an option to chnage the number of lines per page, but
it is set by default to 1000000, and you can only change it to O on most
servers, but even those that accept 24 as a valid number continue to scroll
the output.  Whom might I contact about this problem?

Thanks in advance for any help.
-- 
Lynn Ward
Network Design Office/Computing and Communications Services Office
1304 W. Springfield Ave., Urbana, IL 61801
e-mail: L-ward1@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis)
Subject: Displaying images on a graphic terminal or PC from a UNIX gopher
Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute, Flint, MI
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:39:02 GMT

I am still in quest for some means for the majority of our users who do not
have X terms or workstations to view images from our Sun gopher server.  I
would like to have campus maps, pictures of people, etc on line.

Most users have PC's, but others have gigi or sixel capable vt220 compatible
terminals.  If I could easily take care of the PC users that might be good
enough, but I discovered that the PC Gopher, while possessing a GUI-alike
interface, lacks graphics capabilities.  While it runs on packet drivers,
which we are using with CUTCP for our PC users to access email and terminal
services on the Sun, it will not allow the display of graphics from the
gopher server.  If I have missed something here, please point it out to me.
If I haven't, then why is the PC gopher client not available in source
(Pascal)?  I would think the easiest thing to do would be to add GIF support
to PCGopher.  Is it in the works?

I do not think it is feasible to upgrade our 150-200 PC's to a commercial
TCPIP stack that would work with the dosgofer client that was based on the
UNIX curses client.  The more I find out, the harder it looks to get the
dosgofer client ported to packet drivers, because of the lack of a socket
lib such as the ones that were used for LWP and FTP/TCPIP.  If anyone is
working on this or considering it, please either speak up or contact me.

Since the PC clients derived from the UNIX curses client can display
graphics, I began to wonder whether it might be easier to add graphics to
the UNIX curses client. Sun plot can write sixel or gigi or tektronics.
Pbmplus can translate from gif to plot.  The tek emulation of CUTCP does not
seem as nice as the one in DOS kermit, which can also be used to login to a
Sun.  This would also allow the gigis and sixel terms to be used.  Has
anybody done anything along these lines?

Life would be lot easier if everyone had a UNIX workstation. :)

Comments or suggestions welcome.


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Date: 22 Jan 1993 11:11:49 -0500 (EST)
From: HOMERK@VTVM1.BITNET (Kimberley Homer)
Subject: trouble with searches on PC client
Original-To: gopher-news@boombox.micro.umn.edu
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We have a link to NC State's "Search ERIC archives" on our Gopher.
When I do a search using my PC client, I get the message "Sorry!
When I looked I didn't find anything!" But when I do the search
with the Unix gopherd (1.1) client, it works fine.  Is there some
kind of query time-out parameter I should set on the PC client?
If so, how do I get to the "Advanced" configuration menu without
a mouse?  When I tab over to it, or type Alt-A, nothing happens.
Is there a command I can try before I start the Gopher up?
 
Thanks for any advice...
Kimberley Homer
homerk@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu
Virginia Tech
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: vaisanen@joyds2.joensuu.fi (Jarmo Vaisanen)
Subject: GINDEX???  Re: help with gopherd1.1 & ultrix
Reply-To: vaisanen@joyds2.joensuu.fi (Jarmo Vaisanen)
Organization: University of Joensuu, Computer Center
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:35:14 GMT

Have you tried this (from gopher FAQ)

> Q14: On a DECstation I get the error message "/etc/svc.conf no such file
>      or directory" when running the gopherd server, why?
>
> A14: This is caused by the chroot() call in gopherd.  It can be easily
>      fixed by running gopherd with the -c option.
>
>      Alternatively you can copy /etc/svc.conf into a directory named
>      "etc" inside the gopher-data directory.

BUT how about this one?  Have you been able to get gindexd working on
ULTRIX?  I haven't and I think that's because of system(3) call that
uses sh-shell that differs from eg. the shell used in Suns.  Any hints?


Jarmo

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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: jonv@kyoto.claremont.edu (Jon Vestal)
Subject: Help With Search Mechanisim
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:40:25 GMT

Hi,

I am trying to establish a search which will return the results of a grep  
on a file. Here is my setup:

In a file called test.search there is the following:

#!/bin/csh
echo "0Mathces for $1   exec:$1 all_classes:/bin/grep   ptnext  70\r"
echo ".\r"

The .cap file for this file is as follows:

Name=Experimental DO NOT USE!!
Type=7

I took this form from a news message a week or so ago.  Can someone help  
me with this.  Thanks.

Jon Vestal
Systems Technician 
Pitzer College
From: hoymand@wissago.wisc.edu (Dirk Herr-Hoyman)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: vt100 gopher with kermit
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:27:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: pslu1.1993Jan25.192713.25792
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, UW-Madison

I'm looking for a vt100 gopher client that has the ability to kermit results  
back to a local PC.  We are trying to replace an existing BBS with gopher, but  
need a telecomm downline capabilty.   Ideally, the kermit download would be an  
option just like saving or mailing results are in the gopher command line  
client from the standard distribution.

If someone has such a client, and is willing to let us use it, please let me  
know.  Thanks.

--
Dirk Herr-Hoyman
Internet Publishing Specialist
University of Wisconsin - Extension
hoymand@wisplan.uwex.edu
608-262-0518 (voice)
608-265-2530 (fax)
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Message Id: 930120113223348-MTAJLUG
            Ulrich Duerr           OU=VERWALTUNG PD=UNI-GIESSEN AD=DBP C=DE

        To: Dieter Weiss           OU=HRZ PD=UNI-GIESSEN AD=DBP C=DE
      From: Ulrich Duerr           OU=VERWALTUNG PD=UNI-GIESSEN AD=DBP C=DE

   Subject: gopher

------------ Letter Body Part 1 - Text  ------------

E-Mail an Herrn Weiss

mdB um Eingabe in das GOPHER-Informations-Netz.

Mfg.
gez. Duerr



Az. c:\info\text2.txt


Dear Collegues,

in Nature Vol. 360, 24./31. Dec. 1992, p. 700 there is a reference
on two reports "on the health of US research universities":

- PCAST: Renewing the Promise: Research-Intensive Universities and
  the Nation

- FCCSET: In the National Interest: The Federal Government and
  Research-Intensive Universities.

Does anyone of you know, whether these reports are available on
the Gopher-Net or who can scan them to bring them into the
gopherspace?

Ulrich Duerr,
E-Mail: Ulrich.Duerr@Verwaltung.Uni-Giessen.dbp.de
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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: mmansell@fester.UVic.CA (Mike  Mansell)
Subject: Re: Retrieving Gopher documents chunk by chunk
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Distribution: world 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 23:40:56 GMT

What is needed is a standard format for all documents of a specific type.
Ie. When a "page" is requested, the server converts the document to
a type (ie. RTF) that it "knows" about. Calculates the page length
and sends the chunk. Obviously this is slow, but several things
could speed it up, like caching page sizes for a document, or
learning about other documents.

The only problem is that some documents really don't like being transmitted
in chunks. You couldn't do this in Word, unless the server:

1. Converted the Word document to RTF
2. Calculated the page requested.
3. Converted the data on that page only back to a new Word document
4. Send that to the client.

The same idea can be done with other formats, like a common sound
format or image format.

Conversion programs are the only problem, but they are appearing rapidly
as different companies want to keep up in this interchangeable world.

This, to me, is the second major hurdle to be overcome (the first being
locating the resource in the first place) since many clients/servers are
on slow links to the rest of the gopherspace.

						Michael Mansell
						mmansell@nero.UVic.CA
						Computer Engineering