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From: lotter@cc.und.ac.za (Eddie Lotter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: What are good multitibral sound modules for under $500
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:44:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.lotter.109.721568646
Organization: University Of Natal (Durban)
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roypn@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Roy Pierre-Nicholas) writes:

>I would recommend the Doctor Synth from Boss. I paid $ 440CAN for mine.
>It is basically a Sound Canvas without the MT32 sounds. It has reverb and

If it's from Boss, how can it be "a Sound Canvas"?  Do you mean that
it's patch map (and the extras found on some patches) is the same as
the Roland Sound Canvas?

>chorus and those effects are better than those found on the Sound Canvas.

How did you establish this, by ear or technically? (I'm being serious.)

>Moreover, it has 28 voices and is 16 parts multitimbral. It has 128 General

28 voices sounds good. How does its partials per patch compare with
the SC?

>Midi patches and 8 drum kits. It is also GS compatible so that you can use
>it with games that support the MT32.

You said it doesn't have the MT32 emulation, how can you use it with
these games then? Have you tried it with several games (especialy Sierra)?

>Nice little beast!

If it is indeed the same or better than the SC-55 I will consider it 
myself. Sound modules cost a fortune here!

Cheers
Eddie                                              lotter@cc.und.ac.za
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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can be felt  only if you  don't set  any  conditions.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: smill@polari.online.com
Subject: Re: A sad day in r.m.s
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 08:14:13 GMT

	This thread is getting so far off the point that it's 
downright ridiculous.  The main points to keep in mind are these:

	1) People should have the right to free speech.
		a) This right to free speech carries responsibilities.
		b) These resposibilities include the use of ap-
		propriate language in the appropriate forum.
		c) insensitive and thoughtless comments do not
		carry the same weight as cogent thoughtful relevant
		commentary, opinion or fact.
	2) People should have the right not to be subjected to
	insensitive, or intentionally damaging speech.
		a) People should give sufficient consideration to the
		forum, form and content of their speech to determine
		appropriateness in these respects.
		b) Libel and slander are relevant issues.


	As in most cases, community standards are generally held to
be valid arbiters of appropriateness in these regards.  I think it
is, given posted standards as well as unstated implied standards of
net.conduct, indeed questionable whether Rossi's comments were
appropriate to this forum.  Whether he should have lost his net 
*priveleges* or not is a seperate, tangentially related subject.


-- 
Steven M. Miller		"The history of music evolution is
smill@polari.online.com		 not the history of nice guys"
					-- Anthony Braxton
Electronic Music Coordinator - Cornish College of the Arts, Seattle WA
From: waal@cwi.nl (Peter de Waal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: MIDI to CV/GATE converter
Date: 13 Nov 92 11:00:35 GMT
Organization: CWI

Hi,

I decided that it's really time now to hook up my Moog Prodigy and
Roland MC202 to my MIDI gear. I don't want to use the 202's sequencer
and therefore don't need any sync signal conversion. I'm only looking
for some box that will translate MIDI note-on/off to standard CV and
GATE signals. Anybody know of such thing?

--- Peter de Waal, CWI, Amsterdam ---
"Always note the sequencer - this will never let us down."
Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:18131 news.groups:20911
From: rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,news.groups
Subject: Re: To keep the r.m.s rename is _not_ elitist (was Re: *BAD*...)
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 10 Nov 1992 01:02:23 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu

In article <1992Nov10.003414.12842@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>, arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:
> 
> Here's another posting in favor of a revote.


Gee, if we are going by postings as to a 'revote' here is one against. The
newgroup went out and the group exists. The vote has been accepted and at
this point and further discussion is wheel-spinning (unless we can see a 
trend of other NEWS ADMINS who also are not willing to accept the vote).
So far we have seen perhaps as many as five people who are against the rename
[number of articles is irrelevant since most are being produced by only a small
number of people.] Some information I would like to see is WHY the maintainer
of the gateway is unable/unwilling to modify the gateway to point to the new
name. One of the objections which did come up during on sf-lovers reorg was
the difficulty of gatewaying a list into multiple news groups; this is not the
case here. This would seem to be the only way the people who do not read the
group via USENET could be cut off. Please explain why there is a difficulty
in doing this especially since several people have volunteered to help with
any modifications. Also, remmber the rmgroup should not go out for a few weeks
unless things are radically different about this group rename. You have some
time to 'fix' the gateway before the original group goes away.

For the record, I am opposed to a revote since there has been no valid reason
to invalidate the group; I am sorry people did not take the 30 seconds required
to read the CFV and vote but that still doesn't change the fact that the vote
is valid; If a revote somehow comes about, I will vote FOR the new group even
though I voted against the renaming the first time. I have been on the loosing
end of several renames; some of them as close as this; and have not pitched a
fit when my side 'lost' and the group was renamed. 

[I am setting the followup to go to news.groups ONLY]
-- 
Richard H. Miller                 Email: rick@bcm.tmc.edu
Asst. Dir. for Technical Support  Voice: (713)798-3532
Baylor College of Medicine        US Mail: One Baylor Plaza, 302H
                                           Houston, Texas 77030
Organization: Misc. student, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:17:02 -0500 
From: Brian T Cheek <bc2y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: DX2SY case reopened

I hope anyone can find this message embedded in all those * BAD *
whatever messages....

Anyway, does anyone have the directions for how to use the program
DX2SY.EXE?  How to get them from a DX7, and then send it TO a SY77 (what
format will it be in, etc.)

I need to forward the information to a patches company so I can get MANY
patches.

If you post the answer, please Email it to me personally so I can find it.

Thanks in advance.
-Brian :)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: Eirikur Hallgrimsson <eh@ranger.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Re: SYNC -to- MIDI ?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A72694C79402C0D8@rahab.ljo.dec.com>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 11 Nov 92 10:45:27 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:42:33 GMT

In article <101441@bu.edu> Jonathan Disegi, jdisegi@bu.edu writes:
>I have several pieces of equipment that use the SYNC interface standard.
>Is there any way I can convert the sync signal into a midi signal?

Yes, a Roland SBX-10 is ideal for this.  Pay around $50.00 used; they are
not made
any more.  I have seen other Roland SBX models (fancier) but am not sure
if they provide this function.

The SBX-10 (many thanks to Edd Cote for copying his manual for me) does
Synch to MIDI, MIDI to Synch, and pulse to either, either to pulse.

Eirikur
Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:17840 comp.sys.mac.misc:18896
From: markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Mac as a drum machine?
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 13:20:55 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Socioanarchy and a bit of feudalism

tiirola@polaris.utu.fi (Timo Iirola) writes:

> Hi,
          [STUFF DELETED]
> be much better if the digitized drum sounds very any better. So, do
> you know where to get good digitized drum sounds? It's possible to
> transfer them from a CD but are there any CDs with only single drum
> sounds...? And I have a feeling that sampling the sounds by myself doesn't
> guarantee succes. 


	I use a CD from 3D SOUNDS called (appropriately enough)
"Drum Sample CD #1". It has over 1200 drum samples digitally
recorded from most of the most popular drum machines and
samplers. It has the Akai XR-10, Roland R8, TR808, TR505, TR606,
TR707, TR909, LINN Drum, Rhythum 55, DDD-1, Yamaha RX-5,
RX-11, RY-30, Drumtraks, Drumulator, Simmons, TX16W, plus tonnes
of drum samples from other drum machines. 
	I bought it for $30.00, and has much better sound
quality than any other drum sample CD I've heard. If you're
interested, email me, and I'll give you the companies addresse
and such.





------------------------------------------------------------------darkpark BBS
markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher)
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: broe@dfv.rwth-aachen.de (Frank Breier)
Subject: Synthesizer Archive
Organization: Communication Networks
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:40:57 GMT

Hi synthie-freaks,

I want to build up an archive of many synthesizer's technical data. Now, it
contains onlay a few synths, but in future this should grow. This archive is
available via gopher. If you have a gopher client, it is no problem, you only
have to type 'gopher balrog.dfv.rwth-aachen.de' and you will find the Archive
under 'services'. If you do not have any client, you have the possibility to
login into a public gopher client like 'gopher.micro.umn.edu' and look for
German infosystems (ComNets Gopher).
And now my problem:
  I do not have the time and not the info-material to put the data into it myself.
  And so I hope, you support this idea, 'cause you'll profit of it, and send me
  some technical descriptions (found in the appendix of your synth's manual)
  of your synths. Mail me these description (in a form of a table) to
  broe@dfv.rwth-aachen.edu
  
  If you have any questions, comments or problems, please let me know.
  
Thanks is advance,

   Frank
   
P.S: It could also be descriptions of samplers and Drum-modules.
From: dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: re:  SH101 "Modulation Grip"
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:02:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.2AF8C713.10267
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <1992Nov2.203531.11175@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> eirikur@ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson) writes:
>
>Great synth, arpeggiator/sequencer, etc, though.  

	Erm, I don't really think either the sequencer or arpeggiator are 
worthy of the label "great".  The arpeggiator is really basic - just the very
minimum functionality.  I would be more likely to call the Juno 60's arpeg-
giator "great".  And the sequencer's no real gem either - only one possible
note duration (but you can put in rests).  It is nice that the sequencer 
pattern survives power-off though.

	Great they're not - but the sound and front panel...  Yes!!  You are
correct, sir.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: archer@elysium.esd.sgi.com (Archer Sully)
Subject: Re: Docuentation for SMDI?? (was: Re: Computer<=>Sampler via SCSI)
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:34:07 GMT

In <1992Nov12.181542.26709@hp4at.eunet.co.at> wang@hp4at.eunet.co.at (Wang) writes:
*
*Actually, how does SMDI work? Where can I get documentation about it?
*I'm considering writing a transferprogram for my SCSI-equipped computer.
*
*Any hint is appreciated!
*Thanks a lot!
*
*michael

I called up Peavy to get it.  

-- archer
From: martino@wpi.WPI.EDU (Robert Paul Martino Jr)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: What are good multitibral sound modules for under $500
Date: 9 Nov 1992 14:48:32 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

I know this is a broad question but I am interested in expanding my
MIDI system sometime (Macintosh Plus + Yamaha SY22) with a good inexpensive
sound module.  Anyone have some recommendations?  In particular I
would like some good guitar (acoustic and electric) sounds but that
isn't necessary....thanks in advance.

Rob

-- 
Rob Martino                          |     (clever or particularly funny
martino@wpi.wpi.edu                  |      philosophical quote here)
Worcester, Massachusetts USA         | 
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: coan@griffin (Brian M Coan)
Subject: Dr. Synth
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: net
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:59:25 GMT

Sorry to keep posting this....but has anyone tried out
Boss' "Dr. Synth"???? How is it??

--
Brian MacLeod Coan
coan@emba.uvm.edu
--

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: ljnelson@unix.amherst.edu (Laird Nelson)
Subject: Re: Copyright on patches
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:06:04 GMT

Philip Galanter (galanter@nyu.edu) wrote:
> Copyright applies only to expressions not ideas.  To claim a copyright you  
> don't have to prove creative worth, only authorship.  A work has to be of  
> a certain minimum size to be covered....e.g. you can't copyright a single  
> word.  I once heard that only banks of patches can be covered under  
> copyright not a single patch, but I don't know about the veracity of that  
> statement...maybe its a myth.  But even if that is true, individual  
> patches would still be protected.  

If anyone's interested, I can get an answer from my father...don't know if
he'd cover synth patches, but he specializes in copyrights and intellectual
property especially where computer software is concerned....  If there's any
interest, I'll post.

LAiRD

--
ljnelson@unix.amherst.edu           |
ljnelson@amh.amherst.edu            |          The Quintet-essential.
(413) 542-2932                      |
From: furio@uiuc.edu (furio ercolessi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Pianist seeks advice for good keyboard controller
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:30:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxBwJF.E0p
Reply-To: furio@uiuc.edu (furio ercolessi)
Organization: MRL - UIUC

In article <1992Nov06.234823.6679@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, yho@bmerh2.bnr.ca (Yue-shun Ho) writes:
>In article <1992Nov02.192555.6763@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
|>>There are quite a few models out there: Yamaha, Roland, Korg,
|>>and Technics all have brought out weighted master controllers/piano
|>>modules. Several other lesser known companies such as Wersei, Fatar,
|>>and others also have made them.
|>>
|>>The Yamaha KX88 was one of the early weighted keyboards. The Korg SG-1
|>>Sampled Grand was another that was very popular. I'd start checking around
|>>used stores and see what you can find. Make sure you are happy with
|>>the action.
|>
|>The Yamaha and Korg are nice machines.  Thing is... these monsters are
|>  awefully heavy - 32 kg or 70 lbs - not really portable. 
|>
|>Any suggestion(s) for a weighted portable master controller?  Maybe 76 keys?
|>  Or do they exist at all?

You may wish to try out the new Ensoniq KS-32: you get a decent 
weighted keyboard with 76 keys, and a SQ-2 synth engine with
pretty good samples in ROM, and in particular very nice pianos.
The keyboard includes an on-board sequencer, and in the US you
can get it for about $1800 +- 100.
It is sort of portable (I do not have the weight at hand).
"make sure you are happy with the action". I love it for piano parts.
But cannot go as fast as I would like on organ-like parts. maybe
i just need to develop the fingers a bit more.  
furio
|--
Furio Ercolessi
Materials Research Laboratory           |   Intl School for Advanced Studies
Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign   |   Trieste, Italy
furio@uiuc.edu                          |   furio@sissa.it
From: danny@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Danny Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: KAWAI K4 - Should I buy one ?
Date: 9 Nov 92 12:52:41 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

I want to get into midi sequencing and music making. I already have an
ATARI ST and a sequencing package, but I need a general purpose, all rounder
sound module and a keyboard for data entry.
A friend has suggested the Kawai K4 as fitting the bill at a price I can afford
Currently these are retailing for about 500 quid in the UK.
Is this a good idea ? Or is there a better combination that I could put
together for that money ? Any advice would be appreciated. Do they sound good,
have good features etc ... Or if someone has one they want to sell ...

Thanks in advance for your help,

Danny
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored
Organization: Homosexual Fascist Lobby, Rampant Paranoia Division
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:48:21 GMT

In article <9354@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> pgr@ramandu.ext.vt.edu (Patrick Robinson) writes:

>Cousin It writes
>
>> 	Yes, Subjects of little or no relevance are posted to groups
>> all the time. RFDs and CFVs are not crossposted to groups for no
>> reason however.
>
>I remember seeing RFDs and CFVs for the creation of rec.music.info,
>rec.music.marketplace, and the rest of those, posted to rec.music.synth.
>Of course I wouldn't *swear* to it... that was a while ago...

You probably didn't see them posted to comp.mail.mh, though.

This is really ridiculous.  No, it's true, CFVs are not posted only to
groups that may disappear or be fragmented as a result of the vote.
They are posted to groups that the author of the CFV considers to have
a population that's likely to be interested in the proposed topic.

But regardless of anything else, *if* something drastic has been
proposed about your newsgroup, then it's *going* to be in a CFV posted
to that group.  Therefore, you should never assume that a CFV or RFD
posted to a newsgroup you read is going to be uninteresting to you.

Finis.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu / I use antlers in all of my decorating.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /
From: smithj@sr.hp.com (Jim Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:18:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: srgenprp.BxAt33.20q
Organization: no risk to you!
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Perhaps, if a revote is against Usenet guidelines, we could go through
the rigamarole in order to get the name changed back, ie, a CFV for 
renaming r.m.m.s to r.m.s .

The statement that a CFD or CFV appearing in a newsgroup means that it's
ABOUT that newsgroup is news to me.
       
		- Jim
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: seh003@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Re: Roland's first MIDI synth
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:18:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov06.155638.25562@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
> In article <55831@dime.cs.umass.edu>, barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:
> |> In article <86340004@hpsad.sad.hp.com> smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith) writes:
> |> >    What was Roland's first MIDI equipped synth?
> |> 
> |> 	The Jupiter 6.  I believe it was the second or third MIDI synth
> |> in existence.  The first was the Sequential Circuits Prophet 600.
> 
> Electronic Musician a few years back did a 'most innovative products
> of the past 10 years' thing and MIDI was of course one of them. In it
> they interviewed Dave Smith of Sequential who pushed for a common 

  [stuff deleted]

> He talks about being at a NAMM show and hooking
> up their Prophet 600 to a Roland (can't remember the keyboard but
> assuming Dan is right, it was a Jupiter 6) via MIDI - the first
> time ever that 2 MIDI products were hooked up.

I'm working from memory here, so pardon me if I'm wrong.  But wasn't the
Prophet 600 first hooked to a Yamaha DX7?  If memory serves, that first hook-up
failed miserably...
-- 
/-----------------------/      ... Beware, my friends, as you pass by
/    Stephen E. Hale    /          as you are now so once was I
/ SEH003@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU /          as I am now so you will be
/-----------------------/          prepare, my friends, to follow me ...  -D.M.

Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:18380 rec.music.makers.synth:73
From: zyda@aquarius.cs.nps.navy.mil (Michael Zyda)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: Serial-to-MIDI Interface
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:55:18 GMT
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

I see many messages on this group requesting info on people with
experience with the Midiator 101. My research group purchased
one and had a very UNSATISFACTORY experience. The documentation
that comes with this unit is trash and does not tell you how
to build a cable to connect it to anything other than a PC/AT.
We faxed a note to the company and got a "proprietary information"
fax back! We couldn't get a cable spec from them to build a
cable! We then found someone who had figured out the cable,
built that cable and still could not get the Midiator to
work. In extreme frustration, I purchased a Macintosh RS-422
to MIDI converter, used a standard Mac cable and was up and
running that afternoon.

The message is, don't buy a Midiator under any circumstances
unless you are using it on a PC AT. try any other vendor
first.

     Michael Zyda
From: mir@chorus.chorus.fr (Adam Mirowski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: GeneralMusic (GEM) S2 bugs
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:18:48 GMT
Organization: Chorus systemes, St Quentin en Yvelines, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

archer@elysium.esd.sgi.com (Archer Sully) writes:
: In <975@chorus.chorus.fr> mir@chorus.chorus.fr (Adam Mirowski) writes:
: *
: *(+) It is called GEM S2 in France. Nothing to do
: *with the old GUI by "Intergalactic" :-) Digital
: *Research. There are ads for it in the last Keyboard
: *magazines, but no review yet.
: 
: There was a review of it in Electronic Musician which was basically
: a pan.

EM is not distributed in France... What did they reproach
the synth for exactly?

A grief I heard here is about the polyphony, because
even if there are 32 oscillators it seems that they
must be paired, so you can have only 16 voices of
polyphony at a time.

I can think of:
- incompatible diskette format (1.6Mb), altough can
  read and write midifiles on 720Kb and 1.44 Mb DOS
  diskettes. I wonder how can samples be uploaded.
- no card slots
- no SCSI ports
- memory not backed, but there are also 2+2 Mb of it
- country of origin (not Japanese and not American)
- demo sounds nice, but sounds could be entirely sampled
-- 
Adam Mirowski,  mir@chorus.fr (FRANCE),  tel. +33 (1) 30-64-82-00 or 74
Chorus systemes, 6, av.Gustave Eiffel, 78182 Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines CEDEX
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: kocherp@leland.Stanford.EDU (Paul Carl Kocher)
Subject: Re: Copyright on patches
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 00:32:10 GMT

In article <BxH0Cr.B68@cmcl2.nyu.edu> galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter) writes:
>Changing a single byte of a patch doesn't remove it from copyright  
>protection any more than changing a single word in a novel would.  All  
>"derivative works" are covered under the original copyright.
>
>Phil

I seem to recall reading that printer fonts cannot be copyrighted (or
at least that they can be legally cloned down the the pixel) but
that their names are protected.  Possibly patches and fonts are similar
enough to fonts that the same laws might apply.  Any lawyers out
there who might know better?

-- Paul Kocher
kocherp@leland.stanford.edu (preferred), root@kocher.stanford.edu
[All standard disclaimers apply.]
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth