From: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: WANT GCC? FORGET FAQ.GCC AND README??  lets end this, plz!
Date: 4 Sep 92 23:50:48 GMT
Reply-To: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner) says:

>In article <1880h6INNfoh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis) writes:
>>
>>why is it such bad advice????? I would love to have the instruction in the
>>FAQ.GCC, etc. work......but they didn't. So I did this.....and it worked.
>
>Do you know why the instructions you found in the FAQ and other places
>did not work?  Do you know why what you did supposedly "worked"?  If
>you can't explain why the instructions didn't work and why what you did
>work, are you really in any position to tell other's how to do
>something?

because all I changed were filenames. The crux of my process was simply
changing filenames in a pretty random way so that the installation
script would work....and by God it did. Why? I don't know. Did it give
me a valid GCC compiler? I don't know. All I know was that I got a
gcc in /usr/bin and a messy filesystem with tons of files all over the
place. All I want is to know why the shell script doesn't work.
I EXHAUSTED ALL THE POSSIBILIES......meaning I read, and reread, and reread
the faq, the readme, and the release notes...and I followed them to the
letter. And still it doesn't work. I was hoping that someone would 
recognize the error I got or ask me questions about how I did it 
rather than always telling me I didn't read something.
I READ THE DOCS AND STUFF. People tell my to swallow MY pride, well perhaps
others should consider their own. I know I would help someone out.
Heck....my goal was to install gcc and then write a better FAQ and README.
But that might bruise someone's ego.......

>reran the script.  This is a very important point I want to make -
>you've got the source to the install process right there - if something
>doesn't work you can't claim to not find out how to fix it BECAUSE THE
>SOURCE IS THERE!  If you don't know how a sh script works, get a book
>on UN*X and learn!  I got a book (don't recall the name) by Kaere
>Christansen (sp?) which is adequate.

Again.....please don't berate me.

>Anyway, that's it.  I think the thing which is pissing off other
>readers is NOT that you are having problems and that you need help, but
>rather that your attitude is that the Linux world owes you something.

no they don't.....but hopefully just one, just one person could help
me out. It's a circular thing. Someone helps me out. I help another
newbie out down the road.

>If you had paid money (cash money it's called in Texas :-)), then maybe
>your attitude would be appropriate to the individual you had paid the
>money too.  But you didn't, which means that in exchange for the money
>you've paid ($0.00), you get to peruse FAQs, READMEs, other misc.
>documents and ask polite questions of the net.  I've had great success
>with asking the "net" for help and I like to think that it's because I
>tried to acknowledge that although no one out there owed me anything,
>I'd appreciate it if someone would help out.

you're right. It is an adventure. But back when I played Dungeons and Dragons
we used to play with parties of characters. I would just like someone
to work with. I guess my screaming and stuff could be liked to being
mauled by a kobold or something :)

BTW, I live near 249 and 1960....near Willowbrook Mall.
(but in ohio at school :) )

again....my apologies to anyone I offended. i guess I was a little too
excited. BUT LINUX IS WORTH GETTING EXCITED ABOUT. thanx to all the
testers, ftp admins, and linus himself.
later......and any help would be appreciated......I'm still stuck with gcc



-- 
MaThiEu a. LeWis      "There is no middle ground/Or that's how it seems/For 
Thieves Like Us        us to walk or to take/Instead we tumble down/Either
mal11@po.cwru.edu      side left or right/To love or to hate."
					-A Strange Kind of Love
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