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From: mday@jukebox.lcs.mit.edu (Mark Day)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: anonymous accounts
Date: 11 Jan 93 04:10:22 GMT
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   ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:

   >mday@lcs.mit.edu writes:

   >As long as we're making up non-existent crimes to charge people with,
   >how about if I send a "strong letter" to the FBI pointing out your
   >attempt to practice law without a license?  You might get a long
   >sentence, since lawyers don't like people dispensing legal advice who
   >can't even distinguish between anonymity (usually legal) and fraud
   >(usually illegal).  However, they may well decline to prosecute since
   >your letters are probably a continuing source of amusement for them.

	  Obviously, your above statement is a direct reflection of your
   lack of intelligence. To practising law requires that you be a lawyer.
   I'm not. Also, to "practise" law in the legal sense means the trade of
   good(money usually) or services(in this case advise). Since there was no
   business conducted. It was and is not illegal to give someone advise.
   Whether that advice is legal, commercial or whatever. When giving advise
   is against the law is when it involves...well I don't have to really get
   into that. Go idiot! Call the FBI on me. They'll
   laugh at you and report you to the IRS to push your audit date closer(or
   to put you on the list).

I think you need a little help reading what I wrote.  Look at the
seventh and eighth words of my first sentence.  It says "non-existent
crimes."  That means that I don't think what I'm accusing you of is a
crime.  The last thing I'm going to do is call the FBI on you; the
entire tone of my post is sarcastic.  Get a clue.

[ Sigh.  I suppose I should have known better than to respond in the
first place. ]

--Mark Day

mday@lcs.mit.edu
From: rw@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Russil Wvong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Media Stereotypes: The Solution
Date: 8 Jan 1993 03:27:53 -0600
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Dan Lam writes:
>I recalled there is someone named Jackie Chan starred is a mainstream
>American movie called "The big brawl".  I saw it and did not like it
>much.  It has been a while so not sure if the movie made big $.

I didn't really like it, either, mostly because of the dubbing.  Jackie
Chan's another big HK movie star, and his movies are usually very good
(Police Story, Armor of God, etc.); they're action movies with a large
dose of comedy.

>Well last year the Art Institute of Chicago sponsored a series of films
>starring Chow Yun Fat.  I donot remember any of the movies titles since I
>have never seen any of them.  However I remember the actor's name
>because the film series was advertised in this local artsy paper with a
>large picture of him which certainly caught every reader's eye ---
>especially with "Fat" as his name.  He must be a quality actor to be
>sponsorred by such a fine institute.

He's definitely a good actor.  He appears in a hell of a lot of movies,
though, and their quality varies. :-)  "The Killer" is supposed to be
a great movie, but I haven't seen it yet.

-- Russil
From: nina@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Shenina Louise Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Asian american males with African american females
Date: 11 Jan 1993 22:27:12 GMT
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Originator: nina@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


         I'm a new poster on this net and I was wondering:  Do any 
Asian-american men find African-american women attractive?  I've never 
really read or seen this combination anywhere in the U.S.  I read the 
many postings, but haven't read anything about this... Any thoughts?

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: timlee@netcom.com (Timothy J. Lee)
Subject: Re: AA & sports
Followup-To: soc.culture.asian.american
Reply-To: timlee@netcom.com (Timothy J. Lee)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 01:32:56 GMT

lam@popeye.comm.mot.com (Dan Lam) writes:
|yu@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Frank F. Yu) writes:
|>So far there are few asian Americans making a living out of major 
|>professional sports. It's understandable in football and basketball,
|>for they require strength and height.
| 
|Well some AAs do have the height and strenght.  An AA friend of my used
|to play H. S. football (some affluent Chicago burb).  However he had to
|quit during his sr. year due to some parental presure.  I can understand
|how he parents feel cos as a fb player he could be quite injury prone.

For size, how about sumo?  There are a few Americans from the
Pacific Islands who are stirring things up in Japan.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.african.american
From: timlee@netcom.com (Timothy J. Lee)
Subject: Re: Prejudice by Asians and others 
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 04:53:31 GMT

wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>) writes:
|I get the impression that East Asians (and perhaps others) who immigrate to
|the USA from various countries get along better here than they did back in
|Asia.  This may be a response to the inability of many folks here to
|distinguish between various East Asian nationalities ("Are you Japanese?  I
|just love egg rolls.").

It also may depend on the numbers of people involved.  A clique of
some ethnicity is more likely to form if the number of people of
that ethnicity is large (though it will not necessarily include
all of the people of that ethnicity).  If not, the people will be
"forced" to interact with others.

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From: johns@m.mscs.mu.edu (John Simms)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Why are we different?
Date: 9 Jan 1993 02:14:33 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
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In article <1993Jan4.005223.14665@beaver.cs.washington.edu> paulko@wolf.cs.washington.edu (Paul Ko) writes:
>Charles Roten (roten@cuba.gsfc.nasa.gov) wrote:
>
>
>: Check out the recent article in Scientific American about the differences 
>: in Asian and American primary education systems.  The Asian systems, 
>: whether in Japan, Taiwan, or Beijing, come out looking _MUCH_ superior to 
>: the American system.  
>
>Rote memorization, cram school, suicide... it's all way too intense.
>A lot of Japanese kids just don't get many chances to 'have fun' and 
>'be kids'. Many are pushed onto the "shushoku" train from day one, and
>they aren't enjoying it.

For quite a while now there's been a lot of concern in the U.S. mathematical
community about how poorly U.S. students compare in mathematics with non-U.S.
students.  The research that's been done on this indicates that the problem is
very real, not getting better, and that some of the principal reasons for this
are that some of what are described above as attributes of the Japanese school
system (rote memorization, etc.) are really more characteristic of U.S.
schools.  Two sources for this are the book "The Learning Gap," by Harold W.
Stevenson and James W. Stigler, which I happen to have before me, and a
research article in "Science" that appeared this week (I think) and whose
other bibliographical particulars I can't remember.  One finding in the
"Science" article is that Japanese kids actually report LESS stress than U.S.
kids do.
From: yu@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Frank F. Yu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Media Stereotypes: The Solution
Date: 8 Jan 93 03:04:49 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, McMaster University
Originator: yu@physun

So far there are few asian Americans making a living out of major 
professional sports. It's understandable in football and basketball,
for they require strength and height. As for baseball, the reason is
not that clear, if you think about the Japanese and Taiwanese teams
and their matchup against the Americans. And hockey... probably Jim Pak
of the Penguins is the only AA player.

And there are so many AA I know who like to play tennis. Is this
because of Michael Chang? If it is, I think asian Americans are in
serious need of some sports heroes of their own.

FY
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: georgew@hspice.portal.com (George Wu)
Subject: Re: Why are we different?
Organization: Meta - Software
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:45:29 GMT

-
     Lest you think American schools are such sparkling gems, I had a sixth
grade teacher who used to punch kids out for misbehaving.  I'm not talking
paddling; kids used to wind up with bloody noses and black eyes.  This is at
what is considered one of the best public schools in Pennsylvania, and perhaps
the nation.  (I also think it happens to deserve that reputation.)

							George



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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: g9utxu@fnma.COM (Tanin Uthayanaka)
Subject: Re: anonymous accounts
Reply-To: g9utxu@fnma.COM
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:54:42 GMT

So how can we stop it ?

TU

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: becherer@cs.uiuc.edu (Max Becherer)
Subject: Go for Broke: a good U.S. movie about Asian Males 
Summary: Go for Broke: a good U.S. movie about Asian Males
Keywords: Asian Male
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:07:08 GMT

    Most of my closest friends are Asian, mainly Vietnamese refugees; 
needless to say, I am appalled by the amount of anti-Asian racism in 
the United States.  As we all know, Hollywood is notorious for feeding
this bigotry by producing huge volumes of anti-Asian propagand trash,
portraying Asians as enemies, something less than human.  I need not
elaborate on the stock plots found in these movies: we all know what
they are, and when you've seen one, with few exceptions, you've seen 
them all.

    Every now and then, however, a real gem can be found amongst this
filth.  The movie Go for Broke is just such a gem, in fact, it is one
of the best movie portrayals of Asians I have ever seen.  This is  
especially surprising, since it was made in the late Forties or early
Fifties (I forget which).
    Go for Broke is about Japanese-American soldiers fighting in
Europe.  They are not two-dimensional figures like so many Asian 
characters in American movies; they are shown for what they are:
real human beings.  Character development is excellent, and the 
film does a very good job addressing the bigotry Asians face in
American society.  I must say, for people who are fed up with Asian
bashing on the Silver Screen, Go for Broke is a refreshing change
from the propaganda we have had to put up with for far too long.
    I strongly recomend this movie for anyone who would like to see
a decent protrayal of young adult Asian males.  You should be able to
find it at most big video stores, and if they don't have it, they can
tell you where to find it or order it for you (it costs about $20).

    I would like to have some feedback from people who have seen 
Go for Broke; my email address is becherer@cs.uiuc.edu.

                   Enjoy the movie,
                                     Max Becherer, University of Illinois

P.S.  If it matters when ordering, Go for Broke was made by MGM.
 
C
order it for you 




Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: hjb@netcom.com (H. J. Bae)
Subject: You cares (was Re: Media Stereotypes: The Solution)
Followup-To: alt.whine
Organization: Peaceful Star, Inc.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:31:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.215042.18790@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>Legend -
>   -ge = ethnically speaking
>   -ci = sense of citizenship
>   -cu = sense of culture


give it a fucking rest will ya?  nobody gives a shit.


hwajin
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: barrera@mtu.edu (Barrera)
Subject: Re: anonymous accounts
Organization: Michigan Technological University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:16:33 GMT

ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:
: 
: No! there is something one can do. And I did it. I have send this
: individuals post to the office of the FBI here in Pittsburgh, PA. With a
: strong letter based
: of the FCC communications act of 1992 Article125; section 14. Profanity
: and other opinionws are protected(under most circumstances)by Freedom of
: speech) but it is against the law to impersonate a person(s) or group
                                       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I saw no impersonation in any of the posts. Only anonymity. You cannot
outlaw anonymity if all the anonymous person says is something that bothers
you.

: under the aegis of anonymaity. I am very mad at this indidvidaul. Call
: it sqeal,stooly or whatever!
: This person will answer to this crime. Silly Question your burned buddy. If you

What was the crime? There was none.

: have any questions come to Pittsburgh, PA. That's 303 Renova St, in
: Hazelwood, pittsburgh PA 15207. And you can deal on a personal level.
: Before you go to jail
: that is..

I don't see anyone ever going to jail for this. You seem to have a great
incomprehension of the definition of anonymity and impersonation, as well
as the laws of freedom of speech. 

-chris barrera     barrera@mtu.edu     gorim@irc   :-)
From: hassan@cup.portal.com (hassan monu alam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: KTVU Reporting on Hong Kong
Date: Fri,  8 Jan 93 09:15:43 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>-
>     Three cheers to local television station KTVU for their story about the
>impending return of Hong Kong to China.  They twice stated the British
>established Hong Kong in order to forcibly sell opium in China.

>     This is the sort of reporting which will someday lead to less Eurocentric
>bias in our history books.

>							George



>PS: I presume that fact is true, but I wouldn't know.  It's for sure my history
classes never mentioned it.
>-- 
---

History written by the victors generally present themselves
in the best light. The British are no exception. 

To get an unbiased view of history you need to read on your
own and draw your own conclusions. You'll be surprised how
many of our halloed beliefs have plausible alternative
explanations.

Hassan

PS Opium trade was a driving factor for British presence in HK.

-
From: yamauchi@ces.cwru.edu (Brian Yamauchi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Media Stereotypes: The Solution
Date: 5 Jan 93 03:34:03
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
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In-reply-to: achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu's message of Sun, 3 Jan 1993 07:49:53 GMT

In article <C09pr5.5vE@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (jupiter) writes:

>A much better solution is to have one of these rich guys with
>deep deep pockets in Hong kong, Japan, or Taiwan buy out some
>of these Hollywood studios

This has already happened.  Sony bought Columbia Pictures, and I
believe Matsushita bought MCA/Universal.

>fire all of the top executives
>and replace them with Asian Americans or staffers from the home
>country.

I think there's a big difference between the former and the latter.

More Asian-American studio executives might promote a greater role for
Asian-Americans (actors, writers, directors) in Hollywood.  I don't
think Asian nationals would be as effective in this capacity.

I think placing corporate executives from Asia in charge of Hollywood
studios would be viewed -- rightly or wrongly -- by the media and the
public as an attempt to push a "foreign agenda" on the American
entertainment industry.

>But then the question is will movies that have an Asian as the
>leading male be able to make money in this racist country?

Well, _The_Last_Emperor_ seems to have done pretty well, and
_The_Lover_ has been critically acclaimed, though I don't know how
well it's doing at the box office.

Once in a while, though, it would be nice to see an Asian-American
actor cast as an Asian-American character -- preferably in a leading
role that doesn't involve the use of martial arts...
--
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From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Media Stereotypes: The Solution
Date: 10 Jan 93 00:40:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.cfHzooO00UhW40xJt_
	<9301070808.AA00541@dawn400a.hpl.hp.com>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

My freind, Mr.Russil Wvong writes,

> 
>I think the answer is yes.  Bruce Lee's films were commercially successful.
>Hong Kong action movies, developed by directors such as John Woo into
>something like an ultra-violent art form, already have quite a few non-Asian
>fans, despite the fact that all the actors and actresses are Chinese.

Not only was the the Great Master Bruce Lee and his film the greatest
commercial ly successfully films ever made. But they put a real hero in
every(especailly oppressed peoples) young boy's heart. Bruce Lee was the
greatest role model that ever lived. He taught people that it was
natural to defend oneself in a fight. He taught that it was foolish to
fight for nothing or just for the sake of fighting. He taught us how to
protect ourselves when to protect ourselve and how
the graceful way. BRUCE LEE! Problaby one of the greatest names that is
given to
humanity. And, he gave it all back! And, After his death, Many
Chinese(Even Bruce Leroy) profitted in the door that he opened. He was
more than an actor and a little less than a god! 

   Bruce Lee was a profound impact on Afro-American History. Black
Brothers still called me Bruce Lee and I don't consider this an insult.
99.9% of the Black males in American still give Bruce Lee the immortal
respect that he worked hard for through his life. There will never be
another Bruce Lee! I was insulted at the news of the Elvis Stamp. *&^*
elvis! him and john wayne. We needed a Bruce Lee Stamp and a kung-Fu
Museum name in his Honor.

elvis was shit! And, he died like a big fat piece of shit!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Independent, Fun-loving, Open-minded Asian Woman
Organization: Miners for a Heart of Gold
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 03:32:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.232506.14093@newsgate.sps.mot.com>
jeffh@pisces.sps.mot.com  (Jeff Heilner) writes:

Hmm...  He's the guy from s.c.j.  I guess that he must have
received e-mail from a Chi...  Well, never mind.

>In article <1993Jan6.190756.8128@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
>underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>> Here are two sets of situation:
>> (1)(a) Chinese-ge men who date only Chinese-ge women
>> (2)(a) Caucasian-ge/African-ge men who date who only Chinese-ge women
>> (1)(b) Chinese-ge men who go to Asia to marry a Chinese-ge wife
>> (2)(b) Caucasian-ge/African-ge men who to Asia to marry a Chinese-ge  
>wife
>> Chinese-cu routinely condemn #2 as being abnormal.  They say that
>> #2a is a fetish thing and that #2b is a mail-order bride thing.
>> However, Chinese-cu routinely accept, even praise, #1 as being normal.
>> They say that #1a is just natural and that #1b is okay.  They
>> might even recommend some friends back there to help their mate-looking
>> buddies out.
>> What we have is is unadulterated Chinese-cu bigotry.  But then, we
>> already knew that, didn't we?
>Hmmmm...I think you could substitute any race/culture for Chinese above  
>and come up with a situation subject to similar "bigotry." 
>For example let's use...say...."German":
>Here are two sets of situations:
>(1)(a) German-ge men who date only German-ge women
>(2)(a) Asian-ge/African-ge men who date who only German-ge women
>(1)(b) German-ge men who go to Germany to marry a German-ge wife
>(2)(b) Asian-ge/African-ge men who to Germany to marry a German-ge wife
>1st generation German-Americans (among many others) may condemn #2 as  
>being abnormal, while #1 would be perfectly acceptable.
>Chinese-American people hardly have the market cornered on this type of  
>"bigotry", or any other type for that matter.

I never said that any group had a market on this type of bigotry.

However, over the last year (and more), numerous Chinese-cu have come
onto this newsgroup and have been complaining about #2 over and over
and over again.  Ad nauseum.

It was necessary to point out their bigotry.  Note that #1 far
outnumber #2, yet the Chinese-cu are silent about this _fact_.
They only complain about #2 but don't whine about #1; in fact,
they even encourage #1.

I believe that it is nothing less than bigotry and rampant racism
in the Chinese-cu community on s.c.a.a.

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