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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: The Untouchables premiere on WISC-TV 3
Date: 24 Dec 92 19:33:06 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: wi
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout


The following has been posted to only "wi", but leaks have occurred.

The two-hour premiere of "The Untouchables" will be Jan 14th at 7pm.  The
repeat will be Jan 16th at 1am (actually Monday morning).

Regular episodes will start Jan 22nd at 11:30pm.
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From: jslm_cif@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jonathan Schulman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Actors/actresses ftp site ??
Date: 3 Jan 93 16:51:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1993Jan2.200158.741@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> acb@cory.Berkeley.EDU (aka Angelo Muscat) writes:

>Hello,

>Could somebody please email me the name of the ftp site
>where I can find the lists containing the titles of movies
>specific actors/actresses have been in?

Maybe post it so the rest of us can see it as well?
Thanks.
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From: langbein@pilot.njin.net (John Langbein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: QL: Chronology
Date: 28 Dec 92 03:41:44 GMT
Organization: Information Builders, Inc.

Hi...

Interesting note: Watching "The Leap Back" and "Lee Harvey Oswald", I
would like to note the following:

The Leap Back has the future as September 18, 1999.
Lee Harvey Oswald has a future date of February 14, 1999.

Just a thought.

John
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From: bp979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark D. Rabinowitz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Top Ten Males..(c'mon ladies)
Date: 1 Jan 1993 00:45:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


  The husband of one Mary Ellen Levine dumped this top ten men's
list in my lap, even though I was collecting top ten women lists
only. So I pass it on to the proper people:

1. Michael E. Knight, All My Children
2. Scott Bakula, QL
3. Ken Wahl, Wiseguy
4. John Thaw, Morse (Mystery!)
5. The Soloflex Guy (hey, she wrote it, not me!)
6. Alan Autry, In the Heat of the Night
7. Timothy Daly, Wings
8. Brian Wimmer, China Beach
9. Peter Onorati, Civil Wars
10. Anthony Andrews, Danger UXB (?)

Fortunately, this is the only such list to land in my mailbox.
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From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: Anyone have ratings for Rush Limbaugh late-night TV talk show?
Keywords: wanted ratings for rush-limbaugh conservative late-night TV talk show
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:30:50 GMT

>Rush recently informed his audience that his  is  the  "3rd  most
>watched  late-night  TV  talk show".

Third out of four -- what an honor.

> He also complained of "media
>bias" evidenced by the sparse coverage given his show in TV  talk
>show  analysis  articles.

I wonder if it might be because he's spouting the same old neo-Nazi crap as
always.
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From: Doug_Oke@mindlink.bc.ca (Doug Oke)
Subject: Re: Highlander Status?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 05:15:30 GMT

The offical status is, well, status-quo.  They are now about 2/3 through
shooting the first season of 22 episodes.  No decision has been made
regarding more seasons, but it is still very early for that.  The production
companies are happy with both the show and the ratings it's been getting so
far, for what it's worth...

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From: thiessen@emr1.emr.ca (Tracy Thiessen)
Subject: Re: Full House (ABC):  Help Me!
Organization: Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:51:29 GMT

In article <00965E6F.2D8B8EE0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 9072falkk@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>>
>>By the way, what does "D.J." stand for?  None of the respondents 
>>mentioned it.
>>
>
>Just happened to catch bits and pieces of episode ONE of this show last night 
>(unfortunately, it's one of my 5 year olds favorite shows so I'm subjected to 
>bits and pieces on a fairly regular basis!). This episode not only summarized 
>the the convoluted relationships between the characters but, as an added bonus, 
>ten-year old D.J. was called by her full name: Donna Jo.
>
>BTW, does anyone know how/when Danny's wife died?  And, other than to provide
>inane sitcom fodder, why did he choose to have Jesse and Joey share his
>household? Enquiring minds want to know!

It's a ridiculous imbecilic show, and I'm ashamed to know
the answers to your queries.  Danny's wide died in your
standard TV car crash.  Jesse, as the children's uncle, and
Joey, and Danny's best pal, moved in temporarily to help
out with the kids.  But it all worked out so damn fine --
with all those hilarious consequences -- that the boys agreed
to stay.
From: eric@npri6.npri.com (Eric Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Racism and fried food (Was: Where is Lake Edna? (KFC))
Summary: racism v. commercialism
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:24:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA

In article <1992Dec19.204337.4056@ll.mit.edu>, mcbride@ll.mit.edu (Barbara McBride) writes:
> 
> 	I never thought about it, but you're right.  Why don't white people
> 	ever work in MacDonalds and Burger King and KFC on television?

Well, Babs, they do--I've seen them in real life and in commercials.
What you may be noticing is that often the commercials are tailored and
placed to hit a certain segment of the public. Therefore you might
see a Kenya doll and a black staff/clientele at MacDonalds
during The Cosby Show, and a Barbie doll and white bread during
Full House. I think this is a greener pasture for discussion: Are
ads that are tailored to a show's perceived* classification of viewers 
racist or is this just commercialism doing what it does best, that is,
targeting its audience?

*Note that advertisers may not be "perceiving"--they more likely than
not damn well know the demographics and are exploiting them...

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From: 9073hammesm@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Liz Taylor's White Diamonds
Date: 23 Dec 1992 16:51:52 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 9073hammesm@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu

Has anyone seen the new commercials for White Diamonds?  I wonder if
hysterical laughter is really the effect they're going for!  :-)

Mary H.
From: BrianT@cup.portal.com (Brian Stuart Thorn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Does USA cut all the "Oh boys?"
Date: Fri,  1 Jan 93 17:02:22 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>Since I've moved back home (grrr) after graduating, back to a house
>with cable, I've been able to watch a few of the USA QL episodes.
>I've noticed that the leap outs don't have the patented "Oh boy" at
>the end.  Is USA cutting these or was this less common earlier in the series?
>
>Mike
>--
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>Michael.Rosen@bbs.oit.unc.edu or @lambada.oit.unc.edu
>

   Nope, these are the early episodes currently being shown on USA.
   The early episodes didn't always have the 'Oh, boy...' It became
   a catchline a little later, so you should start to here it pretty
   soon.
   
   -Brian
   
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From: hlee@unixg.ubc.ca (Henry Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Noelle Parker (Was - Re: AMY FISHER: MY STORY (NBC) (12/28))
Date: 30 Dec 1992 01:24:44 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: kynok.ucs.ubc.ca

In article <1hqho5INN9gh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bs895@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Terri M. Librande) writes:
>I thought the woman who played Amy Fisher bore an uncanny resemblance
>to the real person.  What was with the red streak in her hair?
>Weird.

The funny thing is that when I was watching the teaser/trailer,
I was saying "I've seen this woman before!  And very recently!".
I realized I'd seen Noelle Parker last week when I happened to
be watching the "great" Christmas movie  :-)
"Ernest Saves Christmas."  (Her character just happened to
be one of the main characters in the latter.)

And, indeed, the resemblance is a "little scary."
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From: murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: VALUABLE LESSONS LEARNED FROM TELEVISION
Date: 24 Dec 92 20:05:21 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA


>    5a.  "We recommend you spend 3 months salary on the diamond"
>
>colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten)

i've never figured out whether i'm supposed to use my GROSS or NET pay
in this calculation.  it makes a bit of a difference, you know . . .

p.s.  when i bought an engagement ring two years ago, i spent < 1 net month.

ok
dpm
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From: colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten)
Subject: Re: VALUABLE LESSONS LEARNED FROM TELEVISION
Summary: Computers on TV
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:00:29 GMT

In article <1ha1ipINNsbq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin) writes:
> 
> Computer terminals make a sound like a mechanical printer when displaying text.
> 
> 80-character by 24-line terminals always display characters in
> much larger formats.
> 
> Text-only display terminals will display high-resolution graphics
> upon demand by the resident computer genius.
> 
> Mainframe computers burst into flame when presented with conflicting input data.


Don't forget the other things we've learned about computers:

1)  All computers are so alike that anyone can just walk in and operate
    them with no training or instructions.

2)  Computers will do anything you tell them to do - including blow up
    the building in which they are housed.

3)  There are no such things as passwords.

4)  The larger a computer is - the more likely it will develop into
    a sensient and highly dangerous individual.

5)  In case of #4 - there is NO off switch.

marc colten

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From: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Subject: the learning channel
Reply-To: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 29 Dec 92 02:01:58 EST

 Does anyone have a proper schedule/programme guide for TLC?

 Also, can someone let me know when/if the following series will be
repeated from the start?:

 "In Search of the Trojan War", "Civilisation" and any other programmes
of this type.

One more item...
When will (if) A&E repeat "Charlton Heston Presents: The Bible"?

Schedules for these channels are limited in this area.

Thanks very much!

Regards,
Dale Clayton
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From: ckunz@src4src.linet.org (Charles Kunz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Kids in the Hall - Elvis sketch
Date: 2 Jan 93 04:30:12 GMT
Organization: The Source for Source

Does anybody remember this KITH sketch-- all I remember is Bruce McCullogh
saying "This would never have happened... if *Elvis* were my landlord!"
Then enters Elvis, I forget the dialogue, Elvis leaves, then Bruce says
something like "Don't worry Elvis, I won't give my rent to the Dave Clark 5!"

If anyone remembers this sketch & could e-mail it to me it would be greatly
appreciated, I want to send it to my girlfriend who's an Elvis freak
(partially my fault... all those Elvis impressions on the phone... :-)
Thanx in advance.

Chuck
(Bruce McCullough lookalike)

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From: hefferman@ccs1.bbn.com (Matt Hefferman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: NEXP: Sentence?
Date: 22 Dec 1992 18:18:39 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Newport, RI
Reply-To: hefferman@ccs1.bbn.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

cad3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHERYL ANN DOUGHERTY) writes:
>hefferman@ccs1.bbn.com (Matt Hefferman) writes:
>>v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:
>>>The extradition to West Virginia will go through, but because of his vital
>>>role in the community and what the judge could only refer to as his
>>>"Chris-ness," the town has 3 years to a replacement DJ of Chris's caliber. 
>>>If, after 3 years the town has failed to find a replacement, the extradition
>>>will go through anyway... if the authorities from West Virginia show up.
>>
>>As a big NEXP fan, I was pretty irate at the lame "resolution" of Chris'
>>legal predicament. Besides, Bernard was considering Maurice's offer, and
>>he's (by definition) of Chris' caliber, and Officer Semanski's dedication
>>to duty would not likely be swayed by the judge's feeble attempt at an
>>end-around.
>
>Officer Semanski may be a "by-the-book" law enforcement officer, but how
>is that in conflict with the judge's sentencing order?  The judge does
>have the right to set a date for sentence to be carried out [...],
>but a law enforcement officer can't change the circumstances.  I
>could see Officer Semanski writing down the day and awaiting orders from
>the West Virginia police in 1995.

There are two parts to the judge's "order":

1) Cicely gets three years to hire another DJ of Chris' caliber.

   When last we left Maurice and Bernard, the possibility of Bernard assuming
   Chris' position was still much alive.

2) Once condition #1 has been met, the WV authorities can have Chris IF THEY
   SHOW UP [emphasis hers].

   My interpretation was that this was sort of an implied threat from the
   judge that they (or more likely Officer Semanski, on their behalf) should
   NOT show up when they time comes. My objection to this as a way to "solve"
   Chris' problem is that it would be totally inconsistent with Semanski's
   character for her to acquiesce to this, since it has no force of law.

I realize that this show often strains the limits of credibility, but with
all the gaping plot holes and character inconsistencies of this episode
they finally crossed the line between "well, that *could* happen" and NFW.

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From: aep@world.std.com (Andrew E Page)
Subject: Highlander Status?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:45:53 GMT


   Is anyone aware of the official 'status' of the show?  Has it been
renewed, canceled, still under review, any of the people planning to
leave?

   I've been watching the series now and enjoy it very much.  The
plots are good, often very intriguing, and well developped.  I think
the show is greatly enhanced by the use of a parallel flashbacks.  In
addition, I think all the main characters in the show are very strong
and believable.

   All in all I find this show much more enjoyable than some of the
drivel that has plagued 'Prime-Time' network shows for so many years.

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From: amo@cbnews.cb.att.com (arlene.m.osborne)
Subject: FOREVER KNIGHT
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:08:38 GMT
Keywords: Knight

I forgot to turn my receiver on Tuesday night for the Forever
Knight broadcast.  Can someone tell me the name of the episode?
If it is a new one, would someone be willing to either loan me
their tape or make me a copy?   I'll provide a blank tape and
pay postage both ways, if necessary.

Arlene Osborne
amo@mvuxd.att.com

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From: tbromley@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Thomas Bromley)
Subject: Re: obnoxious PUBLIC television
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 13:33:11 GMT

bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church) writes:

> In article <BzrnLt.IMF@encore.com> jpenovic@encore.com writes:
> >  They're cutting back on what support they
> >  are giving, and many PBS stations get minimal government
> >  support to begin with. The producers of shows aren't going to donate 
> >  their programming.  So what do suggest?
> 
> 	I suggest they stick to the original idea, which was government
> supported, commercial free tv. If it doesn't work drop it. If the people
> in congress need to boost financing then call for a write in or something.
> When the pledge drives continually tell people that if they don't pay they
> shouldn't watch (and they do) they've negated the whole idea anyway.
> 
> >
> >  I feel that if people can afford to contribute, and they
> >  watch the programming, they should help pay for it.  When I
> >  was making very little money, I still sent in a few dollars
> >  every year even though it wasn't nearly as much as they were asking
> >  for a membership.
> 
> But the question still goes unanswered. If individuals are expected to pay
> for PBS what's the difference between it and HBO. If PBS goes the way of
> private support like HBO, A&E etc then the programming will go the same way.
> The original idea of exposing people to things they wouldn't have bothered
> paying for is lost and why not just turn the thing off?

One of the reasons PBS depends on contributions from the general public 
(and why it should IMHO), is that is the federal government were to pay 
the bulk of the bill for public broadcasting, then programming would be 
subject to the whims of whoever is in charge in Washington.  Just as 
there is now pressure on the National Endowment for the Arts not to 
support controversial artists, the administration would pressure PBS into 
avoiding documentaries that run counter to its own goals (in other words, 
no Frontline programs about Iran-Contra, El Salvador, Desert Storm, etc., 
except for those which glorify what the government is trying to 
accomplish.)  Pressure could be applied by threatening to cutoff funds, 
take licenses away from the stations which present the programs, and so 
on.  If memory serves, some of this was done during the Nixon years.

I would rather see a public broadcasting funded directly by the people, 
with no interference from government, and for that reason, do not mind 
the incessant pledge breaks (well, not much, anyway!)

Tom
(getting off his soapbox now)
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From: mitchell@cs.uchicago.edu (Mitchell Marks)
Subject: Re: Michael Moschen
Reply-To: mitchell@cs.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computer Science
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:23:33 GMT

>>>>> "MS" == Monty Solomon <roscom!monty@think.com> writes:

  MS> I recommend that you watch Dance in America/In Motion with
  MS> Michael Moschen this week on PBS.  It may repeat in January.

  MS> Michael Moschen combines dance, juggling, comedy and performance art.

I heartily second this recommendation.

A couple years ago he was awarded a MacArthur grant, and some of the
news stories about that year's awards would run down the list and say
"10 scientists, 3 writers, ... and a juggler!" with an air of
amusement at how weirdly eclectic the MacArthur people were apparently
being.  But when you see him -- the guy *is* a genius!

His last name, BTW, is pronounced exactly like "motion".

  MS> In Boston, it airs on Saturday 1/2/93 at 8pm on Ch 2.

  MS> Monty

Thanks for bringing it to our attention, Monty.
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From: lane@cs.dal.ca (John Wright/Dr. Pat Lane)
Subject: What ever happened to Gerry & Sylvie Anderson
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 09:24:52 GMT

This is probably a FAQ but YTV has been showing those old sci-fi puppet
("SuperMarionation") shows Thunderbirds & Stingray.  I recall that the
producers, Gerry & Sylvie Anderson went on to do some shows with real
actors such as Space 1999.  I was curious if they are still active or
if they retired or what became of them.

Is there a handy film/videography of their work? episode guides?

Just curious...

PS If there are guides, etc. available I would prefer to have them mailed
or posted, if it's not too much trouble, as I'm not handy with FTP. Thanks.

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From: bp979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark D. Rabinowitz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Top Ten Females on TV **UPDATE II: THE SMELL OF PUPPY LOVE**
Date: 30 Dec 1992 01:11:04 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


  Well, we're down to a few days in our Top Ten Females on TV
poll. The deadline is Friday night, 'round midnight (or the end 
of the Sugar Bowl, whichever is last). These lovey-doveys are at
the top thus far:

1. Dana Delany, China Beach
2. (tie, 15 points behind) Kellie Martin, Life Goes On
			   Sheila Kelley, LA Law
4. (17 points behind) Helen Hunt, Mad About You
5. (19 pts. behind) Nicolette Sheridan, Knots Landing
6. (21 pts. behind) Markie Post, Hearts Afire
7. (24 pts. behind) Joanna Going, Dark Shadows (R.I.P.)
8. (25 pts. behind) Amy Locane, kicked off Melrose Place  :(
A bunch are tied with 2 points behind. Wide open race!

  You, of course, may be shocked at the list so far. If so,
don't throw your head in the cheese dip--that's what the chips
are for. Give your list, and it can change the final Top Ten
list. That is all. Happy Holidays to you, and may you have sweet
dreams with your favorite sweeties in them
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