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From: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com (Gantt Edmiston)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Student needs advice
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:43:38 GMT
Reply-To: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com


Hi, I'm considering the purchase of AutoCAD release 11 which is available
to me from the student bookstore for $645.  Investigation has shown that
this is a good price for this price, given the commercial price of over
$3000.

I understand that this product is IDENTICAL to the full price version
with the exception that it is a single-user version that requires the
presence of a "hardware lock"  The hardware lock, as I understand it,
is some type of plug that must exist in the COM1 port before the software
will install or run.  Once running the software will only run in 
single user mode.

Questions:

Are my facts correct?
Is there any *other* differences between the student version and the
full priced version?

I also understand that release 12 is available for $500 IF you have
purchase the full priced version.  I have been told that the student
version comes with a coupon for a $200 upgrade to release 12 with the
added caveat that release 12 is not yet available for students.

Again, are my facts correct?

A single user version would be sufficient for my needs and I don't intent
on attempting to go into business designing things, I just need it to
complete some research into virtual reality design.

You can email me directly or post back with your replys.  Thanks.

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Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Saturday, 10 Oct 1992 15:24:53 EDT
From: Christopher Khoury <34I2NYW@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Where can I get sample .DXF and .DWG files?

Hi, I am posting this for a friend. He would
like to know where he can get AutoCad (IBM)
files and demos. He says that you can get
them from Compuserve but he doesn't have
access to compusrve, so I am wondering if
there is a site where one can ftp then???

Thank you --chris
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From: rxs14@PO.CWRU.EDU ((Robert Stalder))
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: where to go?
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:42:00 GMT
Reply-To: "(Robert Stalder)" <rxs14@po.CWRU.Edu>
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

>
>	I'm looking for information on Colleges or Universities or anyplace
>good that I can acquire a certification or degree in CAD.  If anyone knows
>of any possibilities please leave me e-mail with what ever information you
>can.
>
>		Thanks,
>
>		 B. Freud

I would imagine your best bet would be a local community college.  They
usually have programs in drafting, which of course, would rely heavily on
CAD.

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stalder@SCL.CWRU.Edu
From: COM1BOOT@UCSBVM.BITNET (David G. Booth)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: layer name extraction
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:38:38 GMT
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

Hello, does anyone know how I can extract a list of layer
names from an Autocad .dwg file quickly and easily? I believe
I could do it by creating a .dxf file of each drawing and then
doing a text search on the .dxf files, but this is much more
time consuming than I want. Any ideas?

David Booth, University of California Santa Barbara
com1boot@ucsbvm.bitnet
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Organization: RMIT
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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 10:57:57 UTC+1000
From:         Peter Clark <Clark@RMIT.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: Fast Graphics Adaptor for ACAD ?

>Can anybody recommend a fast PC graphics adaptor for AUTOCAD ? Are the cheap
>cards (Speedstar, S3) any good or should I go for a TIGA card or similar ?
>
>Please respond via e-mail, I will summarize if there is any interest.
>
...if you haven't already, benchtest a couple of the STB range of
cards... our experience with them is favourable and they're reasonably
priced....
cheers,
Peter

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From: fiji@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ben Bennett)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: 3d Studio files or news?
Date: 7 Oct 1992 20:59:51 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

	This is probably the wrong place to post and I am sorry but I am 
looking for an FTP site for 3D Studio files, or a newsgroup for the same
program.  Any info would be great
		Ben Bennett (fiji@wpi.edu)
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From: ernst@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Fast Graphics Adaptor for ACAD ?
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:35:35 GMT
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany

Can anybody recommend a fast PC graphics adaptor for AUTOCAD ? Are the cheap
cards (Speedstar, S3) any good or should I go for a TIGA card or similar ?

Please respond via e-mail, I will summarize if there is any interest.

Thanks, Ernst.
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From: bobs@Think.COM ( Robert Schwartz)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: Acad Text Editor for SPARC's ????
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:22:34 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: grendle.think.com

In article <Bw5Cox.6Jr@cs.columbia.edu>, olasov@cs.columbia.edu (Ben Olasov) writes:
|> In article <1bhs3dINNiso@early-bird.think.com> bobs@Think.COM ( Robert Schwartz) writes:
|> >There are several third party programs available (for DOS) that 
|> >provide simple, full screen, text editing for AutoCAD (some even 
|> >have spell checking!!).  Does anyone know of any similar programs 
|> >that run on the SPARC??  
|> 
|> The two I use are 'textedit' (comes with SunOs) which lets
|> you check parentheses matching, and Emacs which of course
|> has all kinds of bells and whistles.
|> 
|> Ben
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> Ben Olasov		olasov@cs.columbia.edu

I guess I was a bit too ambiguous in my original post.  I'm looking for
a full screen editor that can edit AutoCAD text from within AutoCAD.  I 
know they exist for the DOS platforms, but has anybody heard of one for
the UNIX platforms?

Sorry about the lack of clarity in my original post.

Bob Schwartz
Thinking Machines Corp.
Cambridge MA
bobs@think.com
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: changl@ecf.toronto.edu (CHANG LI)
Subject: Digitizer in autoCAD
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:05:17 GMT

Hi,

I am going to be a new user of autoCAD.
I intend on using the TABLET MENU with a digitizer and a puck.
I have a few questions maybe you could help me.


1) Does the TABLET MENU come with the autoCAD softwear?
   So if I have a digitizer then I can use the TABLET MENU?  True/False?

2) There is such a thing as a template, is it simply a piece of paper
   that I can color photocopy?

3) I have asked around in the computer stores around Spadina and College.
   The prices are $475 for a large digitizer with puck, no template
		  $450 Summasketch II plus 12x12 digitizer, no template
		       with puck
		  $239 9x6 inch digitizer with template.

   How do these prices sound?


All comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated.
I intend on using autoCad to do mechanical drawings.

Is there a 1-800 number I could call about autoCad?  Customer service?

Thank you.



      Li Chang   Comp Eng 9T4                     ____
  First Class of Computer Engineering            /_|__\--,
     @ the University of Toronto           []Oo. `0-----0'

     changl@ecf.toronto.edu
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From: dennis@pteng.amdahl.com ( Dennis Potts )
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: Help exporting autocad files
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:54:02 GMT
Reply-To: dennis@pteng.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

Try plotting the drawing using any HPGL plotter to a file, then import the file into Word.  There may be another way, but this worked for me.

Dennis Potts
Amdahl Corp
From: rxs14@PO.CWRU.EDU ((Robert Stalder))
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: Help exporting autocad files
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:27:05 GMT
Reply-To: "(Robert Stalder)" <rxs14@po.CWRU.Edu>
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

>
>Is there any way I can save an autocad drawing so that I can load it into
>Microsoft Word for windows and paste it into my document?  We are using version
>12 of autocad...  Any help would be apreciated.
>
>-tommy
>
>

I have never heard of anyone doing this, but you might want to look in the
AutoCAD installation manual, because it discusses running AutoCAD within
Windows.  Other than that, you could dxfout the drawing and then try to
find a package that converts DXF to whatever MS Word for Windows needs....

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From: psmedsha@ecst.csuchico.edu (Paul Smedshammer)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Deskjet 500C Drivers?
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:00:25 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

A few posts back I saw a message about a driver for the Deskjet 500C to run
in AutoCAD 11.  I would like to plot using the different colors (ie. emulate
a color plotter) with this printer.  I scanned the old messages but our
news server must have delete the post.  Could someone pleas e-mail me the
name and location of this driver?


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Graduate Student in Mechanical Engineering
California State University at Chico
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From: mpg@Think.COM (Michael Gallagher)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Is command line plotting possible?
Date: 9 Oct 1992 20:49:11 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: quicksilver.think.com

I am new to this group. I hope that this isn't a topic that has 
previously been addressed. 

I am interested in plotting files directly form the command line. This 
would require that the plotting feature be able to run independently 
from the rest of the AutoCAD application and be able to receive direct
input. Does anyone know if this is possible?

-- 

-=>michael

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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 10:48:53 EDT
Comments:     Resent-From: Francesco Casalino <NIC2@IBACISEC.CSATA.IT>
Comments:     Originally-From: Francesco CASALINO <NIC2@IBACISEC.CSATA.IT>
From:         Francesco Casalino <NIC2@IBACISEC.CSATA.IT>
Subject:      help for plotting

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I am writing an Autolisp program aimed to the selective plotting of
adiacent  geographic maps of a large territory.
These maps are more than fifty at 1:50000 scale, so I do not want to
make separate views to plot one by one.
Moreover, since the Earth is about a sphere, all tehese maps are not
perfectly rectangular but they are trapezoidal and a little rotated
from the 0 degree direction of the drawing.
With the help of Autolisp I can isolate and rotate of the proper angle
(different every time) the map that I want to plot and all its temathic
informations.
I do not want to send the "PLOT" command from the graphic editor because
I should stop the execution of the program but I want to send a proper
instruction from the program.
All this because I want to insert in the program some instuctions for
reassemble all the maps at the end of the chosen plotting.
So after the plotting instruction the program must go on by itself.
Autolisp cannot accept the (command "PLOT" ....) instruction and I do
not to write a separate program to run after the plotting.
Is there anyone who can help me?   Thank you so much.
From: PAIRE@TEMPLEVM.BITNET (Paul Paire)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Desired machine configuration (Q)
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:00:52 GMT
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

Hello all:

I'm new to this list so please forgive me if I am asking a question that
was just rehashed yesterday.  Here's the senario:  We are considering
purchasing new machines for our AutoCAD lab.  We will be running AutoCAD
12 with DCA LandScape and LandCADD under DOS 5.0.  My question is what
type of equipment should we purchase.  (Note: for simplicity's sake
assume it's just a single stand alone machine that needs to be built
from the ground up.  I.e. it needs a digitizer, plotter, everything).
I have heard that you won't see any significant increase with EISA.
(So what's the point of it?)  and that VESA is just a fly by night type
of thing (i.e. it's a new gimmick that will probably be gone in a few
days/years) that taxes your processor to the point that it starts to
overheat (any validity to this with AutoCAD 12?).
This is the configuration I'm thinking of (remember it's off a budget
but we do want it to last several years without needing an upgrade).
GateWay 486 DX/2 50  (should it be ISA, VESA, or EISA?)
200 MB hardDrive (SCSI) 13ms access
14" 1024x768 monitor (I know it's small but it's standard equipment)
16 Meg RAM
SummaGraphics 12x12 digitizer (should we go with another one?)
D size plotter (take your pick, I don't know of a good one)

Thanks for the help.

Paul Paire    E-Mail:      Paire@vm.temple.edu
              Snail-Mail:  Paul Paire c/o Temple University
                           580 Meetinghouse Rd.
                           Ambler, PA  19002
From: bkp@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: reference needed
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:00:11 -0500

Can anyone recommend a good reference book for autocad.  Quick listings
would be nice.
				Tnx
				BKP@GNV.IFAS.UFL.EDU

Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: roman.yarish@rose.com (roman yarish)
Subject: CADD video sale/trade
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:03:23 GMT
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Date Entered: 10-15-92 21:57

Best offer or trade

MATROX PG Series 1 
  (high end cadd video card - brand new in box w/docs and software)
   compatible with major cadd packages, autocad etc..
   up to 1280x1024 res
   60hz non-interlaced
   16,777,216 color lookup table
   TI 34010 processor
   Image load/dump 1 sec.
   100,000 vectors/sec
   100,000,000 bits/sec
   Single or dual screen setup
  *Can run with other video card at same time*
  
Things I'm looking for (other than money)
   SCSI H.D.
   adaptec 1542b 
   CD-ROM SCSI
   Color monitor non-int. svga or multisync 14"-19"
   1.2, 1.44 floppy drives
   486dx-33 chip only
   14.4k modem
   1m or 4m simms (70ns or faster)
   
   electronic test equip (spectrum anylizer, storage scope....)

   4 wheel motorcycle for kids (small engine 80cc)

Reply here or
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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: piper@bach.udel.edu (Jon Malenfant)
Subject: coproccesor emulator
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 22:33:54 GMT

  Has anyone heard of using a coproccesor emulator to run autocad
  V 10 on a 486 SX-25?

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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:34:45 PDT
From:         "David G. Booth" <COM1BOOT@UCSBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Lisp routine for trimming lines

Can anyone point me in the right direction for obtaining or writing
a lisp file that can do the following:

Given that I have drawn a line, I now want to remove a section of
this line to insert text, symbols, or whatever in it's place. So I
now draw 2 lines on either side of the piece I want to remove, and
using the trim command, trim the line, then erase the two cutting lines
I have drawn. Can anyone help me to automate this? Ideally, this lsp
routine would first prompt me for these cutting edges, then cut
out any lines that fall between these two edges, and finally, erase
the two lines drawn to cut with.

I have been doing this a lot lately with a particular set of telephone
cable plant drawings and it is getting on my nerves. I have a lsp file
that will break lines and insert text, however this does not suit
my needs as I am constantly repositioning text and symbols at new points
along an unbroken line. Thanks in advance..

David Booth, University of California, Santa Barbara

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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1992 11:25:44 CDT
From:         TERRY@SYSA.C-ENGR1.SIU.EDU
Subject: re: Desired machine configuration (Q)

When you get a new system you need to be concerned with the whole system
and not go with the so advertised "this component will do ...."  Always
in computer design I remember that the computer is only as good as its
strongest link.  What I am getting at is you asked about the bussing
(ISA,PS/2, EISA, VESA, etc..) but did not ask about compatible componets.
If you get a EISA board and then only put 16 bit cards in it (i.e. a standard
SCSI controller for your hard drive) then you will notice NO difference in your
 access to ACAD or any other program.  Without going through a long list I
would encourage you to think about the whole system and how each componet aids
or takes away from the whole system.  Personally I would have at the minumin
8 meg of RAM, SCSI-2 EISA caching controller, and a EISA video card (only a few
 of these and they are expensive).  That would let acad run at its best.
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: tommy@nevada.edu (Greg Hjelstrom)
Subject: Help exporting autocad files
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:01:00 GMT

Is there any way I can save an autocad drawing so that I can load it into 
Microsoft Word for windows and paste it into my document?  We are using version
12 of autocad...  Any help would be apreciated.

-tommy
From: 00383@ravel.udel.edu (Thomas R Rocek)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Digitizers--request for information/advice
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:32:57 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware


My department is planning on buying a small (12x12") digitizer for tracing maps
and drawings.  Does anyone have suggestions about the quality of available
digitizing tablets and sources with good prices?  Thanks for any suggestions.
Tom Rocek

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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: rujo@ulrik.uio.no (Rune J|rgensen)
Subject: Can 3D STUDIO import RIB-files?
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:04:17 GMT

I know 3D STUDIO can export RIB-files (RenderMan format), but if
I have a scene described in a RIB-file, can I somehow put it into
3D Studio?

-Rune Jorgensen
 rujo@ulrik.uio.no
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: casey@bright.pfc.mit.edu
Subject: R12 and OS/2 2.0 ???
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:21:45 GMT

Does anybody know if R12 can run in a DOSbox under OS/2 2.0?  I see no
reason why it shouldn't, as it uses DPMI memory management, but I get
a PharLap memory error " -REALBREAK not supported under this version DPMI"
when I try, no matter how I twiddle the settings.   Any help appreciated.
                                Jeff Casey       casey@scorch.pfc.mit.edu
From: Clark@RMIT.EDU.AU (Peter Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: Digitizer in autoCAD
Date: 14 Oct 92 04:37:24 GMT
Organization: RMIT
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>I am going to be a new user of autoCAD.
>I intend on using the TABLET MENU with a digitizer and a puck.
>I have a few questions maybe you could help me.
>1) Does the TABLET MENU come with the autoCAD softwear?
>   So if I have a digitizer then I can use the TABLET MENU?  True/False?
>2) There is such a thing as a template, is it simply a piece of paper
>   that I can color photocopy?
>3) I have asked around in the computer stores around Spadina and College.
>   The prices are $475 for a large digitizer with puck, no template
>          $450 Summasketch II plus 12x12 digitizer, no template
>               with puck
>          $239 9x6 inch digitizer with template.
>   How do these prices sound?
>All comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>I intend on using autoCad to do mechanical drawings.
>Is there a 1-800 number I could call about autoCad?  Customer service?


...ALL of these questions should be directed to your authorised
Autocad supplier...cheers,
Peter

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