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From: maxc1104@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Generic Account 1104)
Subject: Re: Vampires & Mailing list,any info???.
Summary: Near Dark 
Organization: SDSU Computing Services
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 01:58:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.184600.483@dct.ac.uk> mcspikgfm@dct.ac.uk writes:

  [other stuff deleted]

>denizens of the dark in the last decade. I still havent seen The lost boys and
>Near Dark......am I missing anything???????Are the new crop of movies any

  I haven't seen _The Lost Boys_ (yet), but I _have_ seen _Near Dark_. It's
quite good, although they do have a twist on traditional vampire lore that 
IMHO was kinda lame. If the '80s has a horror star, it's gotta be Lance 
Henriksen. 

						Love & kisses, 

						The Stainless Steel Moviegoer

						"It was the only movie that
						made me want to quit being
						a filmmaker and be a vampire
						for real."
						-- John Waters, on _Near Dark_
D
D
 

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: maxc1104@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Generic Account 1104)
Subject: Re: King's latest book
Followup-To: Any y'all read Gerald's Game? 
Summary: Ayuh! 
Organization: The Special Corps 
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:23:46 GMT

In article <BvLzvr.LAI@mach1.wlu.ca> maci9154@mach1.wlu.ca (macivor dawna) writes:
>Has anyone read Stephen King's book "Gerald's Game"?  If you have I'd like
>to know what you thought of it.  Personally, I found it very disturbing and
>could not believe he could imagine such a thing.  Normally I enjoy his
>books, but this one was different from the rest.  Please let me know what
>you thought!
>
  I thought it was GREAT! 
  There was some discussion earlier here about how other netterpunks were let
down by it, but I thought it was a refreshing change of pace from the usual
vampires, werewolves, etc. Of course, the same plot could have been done as a
short story, but that points to one of King's long-standing strengths: his
rich characterizations, which give the events a gravity that would not normally
have been there. After all, as a friend of mine (Crotchrot) says, "...if you
don't like de characters, you ain't gonna care if they live or die or get 
pregnant." 

							Love & kisses,

						The Stainless Steel Moviegoer

						Netterpunk, tenement funster,
						and well-known swell guy.
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Lovecraft Movies
Date: 3 Oct 92 21:43:02 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>      Cast A Deadly Spell was an excellent film - a novel concept fairly
>well executed.  The Lovecraftian elements were a bit muddled, though.
>Still, for anyone who hasn't seen this film - check it out.

I dunno, I still love the line:  "It is NOT a squid!"
-- 
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"Boy, do I love PLASTIC!" -- TJ Teru // What was your question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: lorenzo@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Eric J. Lorenzo)
Subject: Dreamland
Summary: by Garfield Reeves-Stevens
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 19:15:54 GMT

I just finished 'Dreamland,' by Garfield Reeves-Stevens and was amazed with it.
I must admit the only reason I picked the book off the shelf was because of a
quote on the cover by Stephen King saying 'The Tom Clancy of horror.'  Though
a quote out of King is not hard to get, it is very fitting to Reeves-Stevens.
The story takes place in a brand new Disney World type place called Dreamland.
Reeves-Stevens goes into some really interesting detail about behind-the-scenes
info about a huge amusement park.  This alone makes, the book interesting, but
he does a great job of building the climax to the very end, and even though 
you've read 400+ pages by then, the ending is nothing you'd have expected.  And
the book also ends at exactly the right place, unlike some of King's work.

I'm a great King fan, but am completely impressed by Reeves-Stevens.  I would 
suggest to everyone to give it a try and don't let the silly cover(it's in
paperback) throw you off from the quality of the story.

Now, I'm interested in the thoughts of people who read this novel and if they
found it as entertaining as I did.  Also, is his first novel, 'Bloodshift', 
equally as good?  It's a vampire novel, and not being a big vampire fan, was
wondering if it is your 'typical' vampire novel. Any thoughts, comments or
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

-Eric
From: ugabarra@mcl.ucsb.edu (Il Viaggiatore)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: H.P. Lovercraft
Date: 30 Sep 92 03:08:33 GMT

In <92273.153921SXZ104@psuvm.psu.edu> SXZ104@psuvm.psu.edu writes:


>       Long live Culthulu...................................



>Sharky.


	Long sleep Cthulhu.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.
	
cya l8r >8=;==;==---'

	Il Viaggiatore
From: slb3y@cc.usu.edu (Punk Rocketeer)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: anthologies anyone?
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:59:22 MDT
Organization: Omega:  The Final Solution

In article <1992Oct5.194309.10044@ucselx.sdsu.edu>,
maxc1104@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Generic Account 1104) writes:
>   Yeah! _Book of the Dead_, edited by John Skipp & Craig Spector, is a good
> ...
> (b) muck around with the
> "rules" too much (having zombies talk, etc.).

     HELLO AUNT ALICIA!
--
Patrick S. Clark | SPOOK FODDER:  Immediately after President Bush's
Email is life!   | 1992 visit with LDS church leaders, his motorcade
Usual Disclaimer | did not leave until an ambulance had joined it.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 10:44:41 EDT
From: <BFANTIE@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: The Keep - continues?
 <BvJ8x3.FEn@news.cso.uiuc.edu>

Scott Glenn was one of the stars in the movie version of "The Keep".
I found the book truly horrifying until the true nature of the "vampire"
was revealed....then things weren't quite so scary.

Bryan
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Webster)
Subject: Re: Dreamland
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:32:07 GMT

Ian Roderick writes some fascinating stuff, but lapses
briefly into alphabet soup:
>... Perhaps it was the shameless self-promotion of referring
>to BLOODSHIFT as an RPG in DREAM LAND.

A roughly processed goat?  A rude preternatural gizmo?

Sorry--you lost me there.

					--Fiona
From: apfelbrianje@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Stephen King Library
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:56:06 GMT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Peoples,

I've often wondered how many people on this newsgroup have subscribed to the
Stephen King Library.  For those who have, could you tell me which book they
started you with, and in what order they proceeded?  It seems to me there is
often no rhyme or reason to the order--they sent me Needful Things and then
Misery just today.  Funny, I thought they'd send The Stand, Four Past Midnight,
and Gerald's Game before going back to the older works.

Comments?

--Brian
From: hummell+@pitt.edu (Andrew G Hummell)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Chilly Billy
Date: 2 Oct 92 10:02:24 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Last time I saw him was on WPXI (Channel 11) doing the weather (it was early
morning, I think).  I think he is still doing this, but I don't watch much TV
any more (al least not as much as I used to).

Andy
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Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: bender@riscee.pko.dec.com (Patricia Bender)
Subject: Re: Peter Straub
Keywords: none
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard MA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:23:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.234416.9461@lclark.edu> harrison@lclark.edu (Mark Harrison) writes:
>
>First of all, Straub has been around a long time but doesn't have that
>many book out there.  I can only think of 9 or 10 novels off the top of my
>head.  They are:
>   
>   Marriages?
>   If You Could See Me Now
>   Julia
>   Shadowland
>   Ghosts
>   Floating Dragon
>   Koko
>   Mystery
>   The Talisman (With Steven King)
>   and another whose name escapes me at the moment.  It was re-published
>with IYCSMN and Julia in a trilogy called Wild Beasts?
>
>   I believe he has some kind of poetry thing, but I'm not real sure now.
>
>   Plus _Houses without Doors_  That one is an interesting book of short
>=============================================================================
>Mark Harrison           |  "We are the Priests, of the Temples of Syrinx
>harrison@sun.lclark.edu |   Our great computers fill the hallowed halls."
>              -- Me     |                                    -- Rush

The "Ghosts" above and throughout the article should be "Ghost Story".  It
was probably Straub's most acclaimed book.  There was even a movie made that
was supposedly based on the book.  (About the only thing the movie had in
common with the book was the names of some characters.  The movie stunk.)
He also wrote "Under Venus" which is not a horror story, more of a romance.
Straub is my favorite author, but he is also very frustrating.  Unlike many
authors today, he does not continuously put books on the market.  There was
over a four year lapse between The Talisman and Koko.  I had even thought
that he might have died because I hadn't heard anything about him.  It has
been over two (three?) years since Mystery was released.  One of the things
I like about Struab is the way he describes scenes and what is going on. When
I am reading his books, I can easily visualize what is going on.  I have to
agree with Mark in saying that The Talisman and Ghost Story are my favorites
and are highly recommended.  BTW, I have NEVER been able to locate Marriages
has any one out there had any luck? 


patricia

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: sprooney@unix1.tcd.ie (Simon Rooney)
Subject: Re: werewolves and nazis
Keywords: werewolves
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:20:58 GMT

>I noticed a while <well quite a while but anyway> back that there
>was/is some sort of coupling of nazis and werewolves being worked
>through in a few readily available works.  I was reminded of this when
>I saw a reference to McCammon's THE WOLF'S HOUR on an earlier posting.
>About the same time as it was released <1989> I noticed a couple of
>others.  One was THE WEREWOLF'S TALE <1988> by Richard Jaccoma and the
>other escapes me at present.  I know there is a strong tie between the
>werewolf and masculinity <sometimes conservative; sometimes not> but
>why nazis?  Any thoughts would be appreciated as well as any other
>examples.  I never pursued this but I wish I had.

Um.. I've seen one or two books with the same idea, but I think it's
just that Werewolves and Nazis are nice and evil. I've also heard of
a trilogy supposedly coming out soon about Nazi Vampires by Scott
McMillan (ur summat). Not too sure about it tho'.

MSNio
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Necronomicon
Reply-To: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:47:24 GMT

I just saw a commercial for "Candyman", a new Clive Barker film.  The 
commercial makes it look like an awesome movie.  Does anybody have any
info on this??

                                         ->Spice
From: intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Sheila Rani Gurtu)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Necronomicon
Date: 3 Oct 1992 10:46:16 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


 > Hello. I am new to this group, and I saw the many posts about The
 > Neconomicon. A while ago I went to the library to find other works
 > by Lovecraft than the ones I had already read, and TN showed up
 > under Lovecraft in the Rare book collection in the library of the
 > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Curious, I went to look
 > at it. It had a great introduction about the origin of the
 > manuscript, etc, but the text was in Arabic. As I don't read Arabic,
 > I don't know whether it was a joke or not, but a book called TN by
 > Lovecraft does exist.

Go back and check it out again.  I'll bet the "Arabic" will begin to repeat
itself every few lines or pages -- it doesn't say anything at all, but it's
meant to look like it does at first glance.  A clever forgery.

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN)
Subject: Re: Friday the 13th part XIII
Organization: Universite de Moncton
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:18:50 GMT

In article <6893@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> hummell+@pitt.edu (Andrew G Hummell) writes:
>From: hummell+@pitt.edu (Andrew G Hummell)
>Subject: Re: Friday the 13th part XIII
>Date: 6 Oct 92 08:10:40 GMT

>To add to the rumors (along a different vein), I read an article in 
>Entertainment Weekly Magazine that New World Cinema has bought the rights
>to the Friday the 13th films and (once the deal has finalized -- it is
>supposedly still in the works) that there will be a Freddy Krueger vs.
>Jason movie.  Anyone heard anything else on this?

What?!?!  That'd be stupid!!  Anyways, it WON'T be in F13 IX for sure.

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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Necronomicon
Date: 3 Oct 92 21:38:05 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>|> >It's always fun to listening to the sceptics saying "this can't be 
>|> >happening" before dying.:)

Heh... forget alt.magick, I invite this guy to visit sci.skeptic and try out
these lines.

>Remember, the nature of a conspiracy is such that it is hidden from view.

Remember, the nature of a conspiracy is such that the more proof you have
that it is too large, the less likely it is that your proof means anything
anymore.
-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - CTHULHU in '92! Why vote for LESSER evils?
"Boy, do I love PLASTIC!" -- TJ Teru // What was your question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Necronomicon
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:21:21 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>H.P. Lovecraft was a SubGenius!!!

I've always thought that was obvious. Hmm ...

-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - CTHULHU in '92! Why vote for LESSER evils?
"Boy, do I love PLASTIC!" -- TJ Teru // What was your question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: maxc1104@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Generic Account 1104)
Subject: Re: Amazing Stories (was Re: Necronomicon)
Summary: Necro episode not yet on video  
Keywords: Necronomicon Amazing Stories pomegranate Stainless Steel aztec 
Organization: The Special Corps 
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:29:41 GMT

In article <1aprf7INNs2g@agate.berkeley.edu> jacob@plasma2.ssl.berkeley.edu (Jamey Jacob) writes:

  [other stuff deleted]

>	speaking of this, there was an excellent Amazing Stories (the
>	Spielberg produced series) with the Necronomicon owned by a
>	young boy's aged grandmother.  The series is out on tape, but
>	I have yet to find it.  I recommend it to anyone who locates
>	it to check it out.

  Unfortunately for all you Lovecraftsmen out there, that particular episode
is not among those that have been released on tape so far (Volumes 1-5).
However, those of you that enjoy glass-teat horror/fantasy a la _Twilight
Zone_ may enjoy these episodes. I myself heartily recommend "Life on Death
Row" and "Without Diana" (Volumes 3 and 5, respectively). I don't remember
who directed them, but they were both written by Mick Garris. (YAY! Go, Mick!)
  Any other Mick Garris fans out there?

							Love & kisses,

						The Stainless Steel Moviegoer

						"isntitgreattobeoneofthefew-
						peopleonthisplanetwithan-
						interestingpersonality...
						orwithanypersonalitywhat-
						soever" -- Crotchrot
From: intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Sheila Rani Gurtu)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Vampires & Mailing list,any info???.
Date: 2 Oct 1992 05:46:47 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


> I too am very fond of vampires, my love for them came about after
> reading Anne Rice's Vampire novels.  The way she portrays them, and
> really all writers of vampire novels, gives them such a quality of
> beauty, that i don't know how people cna not be attracted by them.

ALL writers of vampire novels?

Surely you mean, all hack romance novelists who write about vampires?
Have you ever read Brian Lumley's "Necroscope" series?  Have you ever
read DRACULA, for that matter?  Anyone who would be attracted to these
vampires, and those described in legend, is one sick puppy.

Personally, I stay away from Harlequin books of all kinds.
From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Deadworld/Horror comics
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:45:09 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <19lhguINNqoa@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac Truder) writes:
>
>  > >4.  When's the last time one of H.P. Lovecraft's characters whipped
>
>I suppose horror comics are fair topic for the horror echo.  Is DEADWORLD
>still running?  I never picked up any issues of it, though I read a couple
>Any other horror comic recommendations?  I don't care too much for
>Marvel's HELLRAISER, or DC's SANDMAN, for starters.  I dig the old stuff,
>like the EC horror books, and some of the more recent comics in the same
>vein, like from the Warren magazines, and Eclipse's TWISTED TALES, and
>some of Bernie Wrightson's stuff.

I have never read any of the "Deadworld" comics, but I am very into the EC
stuff. I have been ordering from this publisher who sells all the horror,
sci-fi, suspense, war, and Mad books you could ever want (also in reprint form
in some cases). They are great! I'll have to check out "Twisted Tales" if I
can find it! See you later!
				Laurel

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From: cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Necronomicon
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:03:22 GMT
Organization: Miskatonic U. Computer Operations & User Services

luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther) writes:

>I saw an old Night Gallery episode last night on the sci-fi channel
>in which Vincent Price hires Bill Bixby to translate from Arabic an
>old book of magic which, he says, was the precursor to the Necronomicon.

This was an adaptation of Clark Ashton Smith's "The Return of the Sorcerer".

Lovecraft, who was friends with Smith, later incorporated the events of this
story into his "History of the Necronomicon".  He mentions rumors (sorry:
"rumours") of a copy the Arabic *Al Azif* existing in San Francisco around the
turn of the century, until it was destroyed in a fire.

-- 
Yog-Sothoth Neblod Zin,

Chris Jarocha-Ernst			Rutgers University Computing Services
Internet: cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu       BITnet: JAROCHAERNST@ZODIAC
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Webster)
Subject: Re: Robert McCammon
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 12:42:11 GMT

Bob Lewis writes:
>	I just finished Boy's Life myself and loved it.  I was wondering
>if a woman would enjoy it as much as a man.  The only other McCammon book
>I have read is Wolf's Hour and thought it was great.  I would heartily
>recommend it.

Interesting question you ask, about _Boy's_Life_.  Despite my enthusiasm
over scoring a signed copy of this one, it took me a long time to get
around to reading it.  Every time I opened it up, the first few pages
made me cringe and think, "Oh no...not another damn book written from
the point of view of an inexperienced male."  (Experienced males are
a different story. (-:)  Maybe _It_ exhausted my patience, I don't know,
but more than one book in the past several years (can't-recall-the-
author's _Horror_Club_ comes to mind) has failed to capture my attention
because of it's being too *much* from a boy's point of view.

I ended up reading, and enjoying, _Boy's_Life_ all the same.  I thought
Thomas Disch's _The_M.D._ (admittedly flawed) more deserving of the
Bram Stoker--and hey! _The_M.D._ is *also* about a boy--but I'm glad
I don't have to defend that assertion, because it probably doesn't
hold water.

But Rick McCammon has never been able to do women characters: that 
treacly-sweet blonde at the center of _Swan's_Song_ ejected me from
the reader's seat early on--although once again, I did eventually
read the book.  (Strange thing about McCammon books: even if I
throw them against the wall in disgust, I find yourself picking
them up, dusting them off, and giving them a second chance.)

I think the question, "What's your favorite McCammon?" is a bit of
a Rorschach test.  _Wolf's_Hour_ appeals to men's adventure-story
enthusiasts, _Swan's_Song_ to the apocalypse mavens, and so on.
I happen to favor camp, gore, and more camp in my horror novels,
so my favorite is that ridiculous 50's sci-fi movie of a book,
_Stinger_.  What's remarkable about McCammon is what a respectable
body of varied work he's turned out, especially since he's been
working in the semi-darkness of Stephen King's very large shadow.
I look for good things from him in the future.  I wouldn't be sur-
prised if he turns out to have more staying power than, say, Dan
Simmons.

						--Fiona Webster