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From: e-sink@uiuc.edu (Eric W. Sink)
Subject: Why can't I build 800 series executables on a 720 ?
Originator: sink@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: e-sink@uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:22:56 GMT

A while ago, I asked how to build 800 series binaries on my 720.
I was told all about the +DA1.0 and +DS1.0 options to the C compiler.

However, I built my application, and two things occur:

% file peter
peter:      PA-RISC1.1 shared executable

AND, I tried to run it on an 835, and I got

incompatible hardware (or something like that).

WHY ?
:-(

-- 
Eric W. Sink, Spyglass        | "You are the Pan."
1800 Woodfield Drive          |     - Rufio
Savoy, IL  61826              |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: gcagle@dracula (Greg Cagle)
Subject: Re: renice for hp700
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:54:19 GMT
Organization: 
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

In article <1bido3INN4mn@ef2007.efhd.ford.com>, mjo@slee01.srl.ford.com (Mike O'Connor) writes:
> I believe that renice will ship with HP-UX 9.0, but I'm the *last*
> person you can expect to guarantee HP's behavior.  :)
> 

Ah, but Mike, you're right! /bin/renice exists on the 9.0 I have.

-- Greg
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: olafn@inbit.ibt.unit.no (Olaf F. Normann)
Subject: Re: SCSI Magneto-Optical Disk Drives
Organization: IBT
Distribution: comp.sys.hp
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 12:57:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.170309.4874@riacs.edu>, kartik@medusa.arc.nasa.gov (Kartik Vandra) writes:
|> I have an HP data acquisition system that runs on an
|> HP382 using hp-ux 8.00.  I am interested if anyone has
|> used a magneto-optical disk drive, either an HP drive
|> or preferrably a third party product.
|> 
|> The data is quite large and will not fit on the 400Mbyte
|> hard disk.  The data acquisition program can read the raw 
|> data that is saved to disk.  Thus, I would like the
|> flexibility of the magneto-optical drive to switch between
|> the different data acquisition sessions for post-processing
|> and plotting.
|> 
|> Please send e-mail or post to this net.  Thanks in advance.

We have a HP 9000/720, and a 1 GB Magneto-optical drive connected to
it. The Magneto-optical drive is actually purchased for use on a 
Apple-Macintosh, but we need to use it on the HP for a while, and it works!

After we connected it to the HP, I started the "diskinfo" command, just to
see if it was recongised by the system. 
Then (if I remember right) I copied the entry for HP's own removable
M-O drive (a 650 MB drive) in /etc/disktab, and customized
that entry, for our 1 GB drive (I can send the changes if you need them, it
was not difficult changes).
Then I did a "newfs" (with appropriate options) 
Mounted it, and it worked well.

You probably need more exact help. Just mail me and I can find the exact
info


Our 1 GB M-O drive is called MacinStor (but it may have other names for 
other systems (I guess there is just the powersupply and the case which are
different). We purchased it from ComputerWare, California, international
sales dept. phone: 415-496-1003, fax 415-855-9440.

Best regards:
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From: campbelr@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Bob Campbell)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:58:39 GMT
Subject: Re: /usr/adm/LOG* files (??)
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

This problem may occur on any system that is not installed cleanly.  The
diagnostic device files are built during installation by the script
"/system/CORE-DIAG/customize".  It turned out that systems shipped with
the system pre-installed (Instant Ignition) are built with a nonstandard
installation method.  

Testing of the diagnostics were performed on systems that were installed
from scratch and/or updated and did not encounter this problem.  Instant
Ignition and the diagnostic group are now aware of each others needs.

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Bob Campbell                Some times I wish that I could stop you from
campbelr@cup.hp.com         talking, when I hear the silly things you say.
Hewlett Packard                                    - Elvis Costello
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: dbrooks@penge.osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: Meta-key and emacs: fix
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:05:05

Since I got my 720 a few weeks ago I've been irritated by an inconsistency
at the user level concerning use of the meta (Extend) key to access the
high 128 characters of the 8859 charset.  This is with the 46021A keyboard.
For example, in the Athena text widget, meta-q does a Justify, but in emacs
it doesn't. 

I fially figured it out.  The reason is the widgets use keysyms and
modifier states, but emacs (and xterm) use XLookupString or equivalent.
And the server loads a keymap whose purpose is to make the mapping follow a
standard keyboard layout.  My point is that this violates the principle of
least astonishment.  I would expect meta-c to produce c-cedilla *IF*
c-cedilla were engraved on the cap.  Since it isn't, I expect it to
generate c-with-bit-8-set.  I'd also like it to be consistent with a CRT I
use from home.

It's easy to undo the server's keymap with xmodmap, tho'.  Since I haven't
yet seen a FAQ, I don't know if I'm the last person to figure this out.
Here's my .xmodmaprc file; I have "xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc" in my .vueprofile.
The meta stuff is done in the first entry.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

! Magically remove and replace meta's with default ones.
clear mod1
add mod1 = Meta_L Meta_R

! Reset/Break added as Escape (easy to swipe it).
keycode 15 = Escape

! Print/Enter becomes DEL (easier then shift-esc, and no vuewm menu clash)
keycode 87 = Delete

! Disable Caps key.  Generating void is an optional extra; I'd rather not.
clear lock
!keycode 55 = VoidSymbol
--
David Brooks					dbrooks@osf.org
Open Software Foundation			uunet!osf.org!dbrooks
Three more months!  Three more months!
From: martelli@cadlab.sublink.org (Alex Martelli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: hpterm survey
Date: 7 Oct 92 08:58:05 GMT
Organization: CAD.LAB S.p.A., Bologna, Italia

shankar@sgi.com (Shankar Unni) writes:

:K. van Houten (houten@pttnwb.nl) wrote:
:
:> In article <1992Oct02.171407.24987@cadlab.sublink.org>, martelli@cadlab.sublink.org (Alex Martelli) writes:
:> |> xm9@sdcc12.ucsd.edu (richard g. adair) writes:
:> |> :I don't use HPTERM, since it doesn't work on our Suns.  XTERM works
:> |> :everywhere, SUN DEC HP etc...
:> |> 
:> |> HEAR HEAR!!!  Down with proprietary unportable kludges!  Up with portable
:> |> kludges!-) [...]
:> 
:> I fully agree, and just look to the memory use of hpterm vs. xterm!
:
:To come to HP's rescue, I should point out to you folks that you can
:always run "xterm" on an HP machine (yes, HP *does* ship xterm, too,
:you know..) if you don't care for HPterm.  Edit your window manager
:menus and ":s/hpterm/xterm/g".

And you will lose half the functionality of xdb (which is powerful, but
as hard to use and unintuitive as ANY program I've ever seen!) AND half
the functionality of sam... the very existence of hpterm damages us by
prompting other HP functions to tie-in their program's use to hpterm
rather than learning to use terminfo once and for all!!!

-- 
Email: martelli@cadlab.sublink.org                   Phone: ++39 (51) 6130360
CAD.LAB s.p.a., v. Ronzani 7/29, Casalecchio, Italia   Fax: ++39 (51) 6130294
From: atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP-UX 9.0 & X11R4/Motif1.1
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:53:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, DC


lipp@sierra.com (Damon Lipparelli) writes:
: With the impending release of HP-UX 9.0, I was wondering if the X11R4 and
: Motif1.1 libraries will link OK under the new compilers and linkers that I
: gather will be in the new operating system updates.  My company is not
: going to be able to jump to X11R5 and Motif1.2 immediately, but we need the
: compiler bug fixes.

In article <1992Oct8.201359.1750@hpcvusn.cv.hp.com> bobm@hpcvxbm.cv.hp.com (Bob May) writes:
>   (Sorry for the previous blank response - editor problems...)
>
>   Yes. The R4 and Motif 1.1 shared libraries are supported on 9.0, and
>   they live in the "usual" places (/usr/lib/X11R4 and
>   /usr/lib/Motif1.1). The R5/Motif 1.2 libraries appear in
>   corresponding locations (/usr/lib/X11R5 and /usr/lib/Motif1.2).

  One hopes that HP will do The Right Thing and include imake and
xmkmf and such other essential X11 core tools with HPUX 9.0.

Ran
atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: zenon@resonex.com (Zenon Fortuna)
Subject: Re: Flaky 'tar' on HP700/HP-UX 8.05.
Organization: Resonex Inc., Sunnyvale CA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:20:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.183723.27590@csi.com> ravi@csi.com (Ravi Bhaskaran) writes:
>
>Hello HP-700 users,
>		I create a file on tape by using the command below:
>
>tar cvf - foo1 foo2  | compress | dd of=/dev/rmt/0mn
...
>		I now extract these files using the command below:
>dd if=/dev/rmt/0mn | uncompress | tar xvpf -
>		The above scheme works about 9 out of 10 times. The 
>problem I am having is that when extracting files from the same tape 
>using the same tar command once every ten times a file ends up with
>a size of zero.
>
>Is there an explanation for this ?? Any pointers would be
>welcome.
>

Try

tar cvf - foo1 foo2 | compress | dd of=/dev/rmt/0mn ibs=512 obs=nnn
dd if=/dev/rmt/0mn bs=nnn | uncompress | tar xvpf

I use "nnn" as big as 128k for DAT, but something like 10k may be good as well.

The problem with truncated data is related to "dd" reading from the pipe.

	-Z.
From: thollowe@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Tom Hollowell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Printing to a network printer
Keywords: HP9000/425, HPLJIII
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:20:26 GMT
Organization: Ohio University C.S. Dept, Athens

OK, I asked about this last week, but I have a little
more info on the problem, so maybe someone
can help me a little more with it.

Our system in a staqndalone with 3 terminakls and a console,
and we are connected to our local ehternet.    There is a printer
HPLJIII that is also directly hooked to the network
at a specific IP address with a specific netwrok name.  

What I need to do is access this printer so that I can print outfiles to
it from the system.  

SAM has a thing for hooking up remote printers, but it doesn't seem to 
be able to work properly.  When it ask for remote system nme, I enter
the network name of the printer, but after the system enables it
all requests for printer to the remote do not go through, saying the queue has not 
been enabled.  

Any suggestions as to what I am doing wrong or what to try and change?

Thanks for any help.


-- 
"My uniform is leather, and my power is my age.
I'm getting it together to break out of this cage"
                  "Flaming Youth", KISS
Tom Hollowell Ohio University, Athens
From: bruceh@cv.hp.com (Bruce Hauge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Tin newsreader - HPUX port?
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:35:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvca.1992Oct7.193555.22986
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Tim Weil (trw@unixland.natick.ma.us) wrote:
> As the Subject suggests, I'm looking for a 'tin' port to HPUX <8.0+>.
> The copy I'm currently using has only a 'sysvr4' make option which fails
> on the 'inews.c' module with some obscure 'undefined union' error (or
> something).

You should check the Makefile. There should be an entry for hpux, even
though it isn't listed when you just type "make". This is the configuration
I have used to compile on a s700 with 8.07:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
hpux:
        @echo "Compiling for HPUX..."
        @$(MAKE) CC=$(CC) CFLAGS='$(COPTS)\
 -DSYSV\
 -DNNTP_INEWS_GATEWAY=\"$(NNTP_INEWS_GATEWAY)\"\
 -DNNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN=\"$(NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN)\"\
 -DNNTP_SERVER_FILE=\"/usr/local/lib/rn/server\"\
 -DLIBDIR=\"$(LIBDIR)\"\
 -DSPOOLDIR=\"$(SPOOLDIR)\"\
 -DNNTP_ONLY\
 -DUSE_INVERSE_HACK\
 -DUSE_LONG_FILENAMES\
 -DNNTP_EXTS\
 -DUSE_ISPELL ' \
                         LIBS="-lcurses" \
                         EXE=tin linkit
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: lapp@waterloo.hp.com (David Lapp)
Subject: Re: Question about HP's HP/VUE/RX
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:37:46 GMT
Organization: HP Panacom Div Waterloo ON Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Paul Kurmas (kurmas@ttd.teradyne.com) wrote:
: I saw a new product announcement in OST for HP/VUE/RX. I assume this
: is the long-awaited local window manager. Could anyone in the know
: answer a couple of questions before I call in the salespeople?
:
VUE/RX is one of the local window managers we are releasing.

It provides some of the most popular features of VUE (such as
workspaces and the control panel). 
: 1) What technical/administrative issues are there to consider? In particular,
: 	what on the workstation's configuration has to change to support
: 	VUE/RX? Do all the same configuration files still work (.vue/vuewmrc,
: 	home sessions, etc...)?
:
These configuration files are used with local vuewm (which is also
supplied. The rest of VUE still runs on your host but vuewm is
offloaded to your X terminal. The VUE/RX configuration is somewhat
simpler then VUE and is seperate from vuewmrc. If you have already
custom configured vuewm through vuewmrc you can probably copy
many of your modifications to vuerxrc.

We are also releasing mwm and twm as local clients. So you will 
have a choice of 4 local window managers depending on your preference.

: 2) Is this part of the X11R5 release for the 700/RX, or is it an add-on
: 	product (or an "instead of" X11R5)?
:
Local clients, including the window managers mentioned and local hpterm
and xterm, are all included with the 'X11R5' release (aka B.04 HP 700/RX
software)
 
: The major downside of this appears to be the price - they're quoting $695/seat.
: If this is the usual price for software releases for 700/RXs, I'll be tempted
: to add them to my support contract. If it's not, what happened to the "700/RXs
: come with a license for VUE"?
:
The $695 is right but that isn't the price per seat :-)
That is the price for a tape and manual and covers
as many 700/RXs as you like. 

You may still want to add the 700/RXs to your support
contract (if you've already got one for HP UX) Check
with your salesperson for details.

And the 700/RX still comes with a license to use VUE. As I
understand it that license is 'attached' to the 700/RX not
related to any software that you buy for your 700/RX
 
: Inquiring minds want to know...

Hope that helped,


Dave Lapp

Standard Disclaimer etc...

I speak for myself not HP. I try to be accurate but sometimes
I'm not. I ... 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: sieler@allegro.com (Stan Sieler)
Subject: Re: How can we get rid of HP VUE.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:11:19 GMT
Organization: Allegro Consultants, Inc., Redwood City, CA
Keywords: HP VUE, vuewm, mwm

In article <15995@umd5.umd.edu> mark@elea.umd.edu (Mark Sienkiewicz) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.195621.9651@mcs.kent.edu> chen@humboldt.kent.edu (Chen) writes:
>>
>>I am just still hoping that there is a way for a user to choose whether he wants
>>VUE or not.

Prediction: within 2 years, there won't be a VUE...Dashboard will have
been ported to HP-UX and we will be using it instead.  (Of course, they
may rename it to VUE to save face!)  Aside from one bug, I actually like
Dashboard (running under Windows 3.1)!

stan sieler
sieler@allegro.com





Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.internals
From: broadley@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu (Bill Broadley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Recent Interviews Binaries???
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:18:55 GMT
Reply-To: broadley@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

I already ftp'd the Interview 3.0 binaries for the hp-700 from the wonderful
people at ftp.csc.liv.ac.uk.

Unfortunately I need something at least as recent at 3.1 Beta, and I lack
a c++ compiler besides the gnu gcc which doesn't seem to handle interviews
package well.

So has anyone out there compiled interviews 3.1 beta or newer for the HP 700/800?

I'd be very grateful if it was either made available publically or made available
to me and I will make it available publically.

-- 
Bill				1st>	Broadley@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu
Broadley@schneider3.lrdc.pitt.edu <2nd 3rd> 	Broadley+@pitt.edu
			Novell, AFS just say NO! 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: awatkins@ale.UVic.CA (Andrew  Watkins)
Subject: Status of upgrade for Hp/Apollo 425t
Reply-To: awatkins@ale.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 22:22:54 GMT

Hello,

I am wondering if anyone out there can enlighten me about whether or
not HP will be providing an upgrade kit for the 425t. Our 425t has a 25
Mhz 68040; when we bought the machine we were told that at some point
there would be an upgrade to 40 Mhz.

When I called my HP customer sale rep., he said that the upgrade is not
yet available because Motorolla has not yet released their high speed
chip. He then proceeded to try and sell me the HP700 upgrade which
converts the machine to a 700 series running HP/UX.  I've also heard
that the delay is not with Motorolla, but with HP themselves who are
trying to steer everyone to the 700 series. However, some of our
software packages only run under Domain so that is not an option for us
at the moment.

Can anyone out there tell me what the truth is? I don't feel that I'm
getting it from HP.

Andrew Watkins
University of Victoria
Victoria, BC Canada

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: ronald@iti.gov.sg (Ronald Yap (SE))
Subject: Need pointers customizing VUE
Reply-To: ronald@iti.gov.sg
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, S'pore
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:33:55 GMT

I have a HP 710 running VUE and have been unsuccessfull in customizing a few things,
namely...

1.  changing the frame-border width of all windows,
2.  having a console windows, each time I login to display all console messages,
3.  disabling autologout

Any help for the above would be appreciated....
Thanks.

---
Name:  Ronald Yap                    | Software Engineering Laboratory
Email: ronald@iti.gov.sg             | Information Technology Institute
       ronaldyap@itivax.bitnet       | NCB Building, 71 Science Park Drive,
Phone: 65-772-0594                   | Singapore 0511
Fax  : 65-779-5966                   | Republic of Singapore

From: blh@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Bill Hassell)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:22:22 GMT
Subject: Re: Printing to a network printer
Organization: Kudzu Headquarters South
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

If the LaserJet is connected directly to the network and has an IP
address (and is using an HP interface card) then it is probably the HP
JetDirect product.  You will need to install the JetDirect software to
configure to printer.  This software is shipped with the JetDirect
card.

Check /usr/lib/hpnp...if the directory exists, then the software is
probably already there.  Use lpadmin -x to delete the current printer,
then do not use lpadmin or SAM from now on (until 9.0) to administer
the network printer.  Instead, use /usr/lib/hpnpcfg and follow the
menu items to install the printer into the spooler.

Everything that hpnpcfg does will be logged into the file
/tmp/hpnpcfg.log so you can see what needs to be done.

Bill (JetDirect is us) Hassell
From: steve-t@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Steve Taylor)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:33:55 GMT
Subject: Re: hpterm survey
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, martelli@cadlab.sublink.org (Alex Martelli) writes:
| And you will lose half the functionality of xdb 

Seems like I should quote myself here:

: steve-t@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Steve Taylor) : Mon, 28 Sep 1992 : comp.sys.hp
If the what-string contains either 8.3 or 9.0 (Revision 71.xx or 72.xx),
then xdb should run in window-mode in an xterm.  See the "HP-UX Symbolic
Debugger Technical Addendum" or the 9.0 "HP-UX Symbolic Debugger User's
Guide" (when it's available) for details.

: steve-t@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Steve Taylor) : Tue, 29 Sep 1992 : comp.sys.hp
| As of 9.0 xdb ... works on 
some non-HP terminals ... specifically, the terminal has to support
either  memory lock (meml and memu in terminfo)
or      scrolling region (csr in terminfo),
as well as
	cursor motion (cup ...)
and     clearing to end of screen/line (ed and el ...).

Other terminfo resources xdb would like but doesn't require
(as of revision 71.xx):  kll  il1  dl1  rev/sgr0 (or smso/rmso).

						Regards, Steve taylor

NOT A STATEMENT, OFFICIAL OR OTHERWISE, OF THE HEWLETT-PACKARD COMPANY.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: sscott@rtsg.mot.com (Steven R Scott)
Subject: Need help building libg++-2.2 and gdb-4.6
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:12:43 GMT


A couple of questions regarding building GNU products on an HP425 running
HP/UX 8.0.

I have built gcc-2.2.2 and installed it.

The first question is:  When trying to build libg++-2.2, the following error
occurs:


	gcc -DUSG -nostdinc++ -I. -I.. -I. -I./../src  -c  stdstrbufs.C
as error: "/usr/tmp/cca01141.s" line  22: syntax error
as error: "/usr/tmp/cca01141.s" line  44: syntax error
as error: "/usr/tmp/cca01141.s" line  66: syntax error
as error: "/usr/tmp/cca01141.s" line  88: syntax error
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.


Would I be better off trying to build gas and then tell gcc to use it instead
of HP's as?  Is there a recommended or better set of gcc options to use when
attempting to build this library?

On a different but related question:  Has anyone done the port (made the
patches) so that gdb-4.6 can be built on this system?