HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bartlett@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Thomas A. Bartlett)
Newsgroups: upenn.forsale,upenn.general,phl.forsale
Subject: 4 Block Porch Sale, Sat, 9/12, 10am-afternoon
Date: 7 Sep 92 14:45:47 GMT
Followup-To: upenn.forsale
Distribution: pa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

New students to the area have a great opportunity to
find cheap furnishings and supplies at: 
	The Annual Hamilton Street Porch Sale  
	Saturday, September 12, from 10am to late afternoon.
	(Rain date, rain OR shine, is Sunday, Sept 13th)

Porch sales run from 34th through 38th on Hamilton Street,
which is located in Powelton Village, approximately ten
minutes walk from the Penn Campus, and two minutes from Drexel.
Hamilton Street is located about 5 blocks north of Market Street,
and one block south of Spring Garden Street (the bridge leading
to the Art Museum).

Furniture, appliances, electronics, kitchen ware, linens, tools,
household items, jewelry, clothing, plants, art, collectables, 
antiques, junk, crafts, books, records, tapes, homemade foods and 
beverages.  (A directory listing who is selling any 
special large or important pieces will be available.)

Some twenty to forty participating houses each year.

Anyone wishing to SELL items in this sale should contact the block
captain on whatever block they wish to set up on, find a free space, 
and pay a registration fee of $8.00.
From: ray@philmtl.philips.ca (Ray Dunn)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Re: Ou est St.Catharines
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:09:18 GMT
Organization: On the Brew.

In referenced article, steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter) writes:
>This didn't appear in mtl.general so i sent it again:-
>> [Denis Beauregard's posting]
> Ignoring the deliberate efforts of some to replace english
> names for things in Quebec with french ones (sometimes totally
> unrelated for no better reason that simply to get rid of any
> appearance of english in the province) - the whole idea of
> changing region, town, street or building names is ridiculous
> to me.
> 
> It is stupid.

Apart from the fact that it _was_ posted in mtl.general, as a cursory
glance at the original Newsgroups line would have determined even if it
hadn't yet got there on Steve's site, I have to presume this is merely
another attempt by Steve to deliberately provoke reaction.

The last time he did this, he admitted it was a cheap shot, but it's more
than that, it's a pastime that can be irritating in the extreme,
particularly when his efforts are directed at subjects that people feel
seriously passionate about.

If not the case in this instance, let me immediately apologize to Steve,
however in that case, for credibility, he's going to have to provide
something a little more substantial than just a statement of a personal value
judgement without any supporting argument whatsoever - merely calling
things "ridiculous", and "stupid" is hardly a contribution.
-- 
Ray Dunn at home    |    ray@philmtl.philips.ca    |    (514) 630 3749
From: loki@nazgul.physics.mcgill.ca (Loki Jorgenson)
Newsgroups: mtl.general,mcgill.unix
Subject: FOR SALE: UNiX Workstation
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:21:42 GMT
Distribution: mtl
Organization: Centre for the Physics of Materials

MassComp MC-500 workstation (with spare for parts) FOR SALE:
	+ vertical tower configuration
	+ 10Mhz 32-bit 68000/68010 processor pair
	+ 4k internal cache
	+ 8M/s memory interconnect bus
	+ 8 card backplane with 6M/s I/O bus
	+ 1/4" cartridge (QIC-24) tape drive
	+ 50M Winchester hard disk drive
	+ 5-1/4" floppy drive
	+ 4M core memory 
	+ floating point unit (FPU)
	+ 2 serial ports and modem port
	+ SYS V UNiX system with C and FORTRAN
	+ real-time I/O
	+ all manuals including driver, kernel and hardware specs
	+ system floppies, QIC cartridges

	Spares from extra workstation
		o chassis and tower
		o floppy drive
		o FPU
		o power supply
		o two CPU cards (potential multi-processor configuration)
		o 8-port serial multiplexor

Great project machine for UNiX debutante or expert, programmer working
in UNiX/C/FORTRAN, system or software hacker, hardware hobbyist or 
researcher needing real-time I/O for data acquisition.  Fully functional;
requires NO extra work or modification for use; many possible configurations
are possible (swapping cards and rebuilding kernel).

	$1500 or best offer
	Call: 849-0390
	Email: loki@physics.mcgill.ca
From: dave@hundun.cnd.mcgill.ca (David Johnson)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Apartment for rent.
Summary: apartment for rent in Pierrefonds
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:33:08 GMT
Organization: McGill University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

very large 3 1/2, 4 1/2
spacious, quiet area, parking, janitor, close to shopping centre,
35 minutes to downtown, many busses, commuter train nearby
Call 624-1650 or 769-8879, or e-mail:
dave@cnd.mcgill.ca

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From: dignard@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Michel Dignard)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Murrayville [Re: Ou est St.Catharines]
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:57:00 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

** Ref. <BuDKv7.50A@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> 
        (mtl.general)   10 Sep 92 18:33:07 GMT 
        [beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)] 
        -- Ou est St.Catharines -- 

| y a William Henry (Sorel), Murrayville (Riviere-du-Loup?) et

Correction a mon message precedent:

Murrayville --> La Malbaie      (je n'etais pas loin...)
From: mcnichol@ERE.UMontreal.CA (McNichols Andre)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Re: Ou est St.Catharines
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:09:29 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <1992Sep11.110732.2265@spxtech.qc.ca> steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter) writes:
>From article <1992Sep11.125644.13670@cc.umontreal.ca>, by mcnichol@ERE.UMontreal.CA (McNichols Andre):
>
>> Puisque Monsieur Potter deteste tant tout ce qui se fait au Quebec,
>
>I don't.
>
>> pourquoi persiste-t-il donc a tous nous faire c... avec ses commentaires
>> agressifs (et stupides comme il le dirait lui-meme)?
>> 
>
>It is to be expected that intolerant people would perceive criticism of
>their attitudes and beliefs as "agressif" and "stupide".
>
>
Je maintiens les qualificatifs de "agressif" et "stupide" et j'ajoute meme
impoli.  De plus la vieille technique consistant a decouper les messages
en petits morceaux pour leur enlever tout leur sens est utilisee abondamment
dans la propagande francophobe de notre "ami".
>-- 
>  ///==================================================================\\\
>  ||| Steve Potter:         steven%spxtech@CAM.ORG                     |||
>  ||| Expertise/Experience: Computer Systems Engineering / Real Ale /  |||
>  |||                       Politics in Education in Quebec            |||


-- 
       _____________________________________________________________ 
      |Andre McNichols               |                              |
      |Departement de Chimie         |                              |
      |Universite de Montreal        |    Cet espace est a louer    |
From: alex@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (A. Okapuu-von Veh)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: FOR SALE: shelves, carpets, bedframe
Keywords: shelves, carpet, single bed frame, coffeetable
Date: 13 Sep 92 17:22:23 GMT
Distribution: mtl
Organization: EE Lab, McGill University EE Lab, Montreal

FOR YOUR OFFICE OR APARTMENT
============================
Chromed Steel and Smoke-Grey Glass Shelves - Excellent quality, like new!
 - 3 units with 4 shelves 29"w, 15"d, 55"h ................... $55.00 each
 - 2 units with 5 shelves 29"w, 15"d, 72"h ................... $65.00 each

Take all 5 units for $275.00
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Also:  Modular shelves with ~70 chromed metal round bars and 11
       square glass shelves.... build any shape you want....... $25.00

       Two Persian Rugs, 6x9 feet, quiet traditional colors.... $125.00 each

       Marble coffee table, 39.5" x 20" on wood pedestal....... $175.00

       Single mattress metal bedframe.......................... $25.00

                       !!! PRICES ARE NEGOTIABLE !!!

Call Alex at 672-1005 (leave message) or 672-8272 or
Email to alex@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca.
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|Alexander Okapuu-von Veh                       __o                       |
|alex@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca                       -\<,                       |
|____________________________________________(_)/(_)______________________|
From: steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Re: Ou est St.Catharines
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:07:31 GMT
Organization: Securiplex Technologies Inc., Montreal, Canada
X-Bytes: 754

From article <1992Sep11.125644.13670@cc.umontreal.ca>, by mcnichol@ERE.UMontreal.CA (McNichols Andre):

> Puisque Monsieur Potter deteste tant tout ce qui se fait au Quebec,

I don't.

> pourquoi persiste-t-il donc a tous nous faire c... avec ses commentaires
> agressifs (et stupides comme il le dirait lui-meme)?
> 

It is to be expected that intolerant people would perceive criticism of
their attitudes and beliefs as "agressif" and "stupide".


-- 
  ///==================================================================\\\
  ||| Steve Potter:         steven%spxtech@CAM.ORG                     |||
  ||| Expertise/Experience: Computer Systems Engineering / Real Ale /  |||
  |||                       Politics in Education in Quebec            |||
From: root@geophys.mcgill.ca (Steeve)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Re: Pc a vendre/ Pc for sale
Date: 5 Sep 92 16:00:08 GMT
Distribution: mtl
Organization: McGill University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


  ... will it run sysvr4?

  ha ha ha ha ha :-D

  sorry
From: steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Re: Ou est St.Catharines
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:02:31 GMT
Organization: Securiplex Technologies Inc., Montreal, Canada
X-Bytes: 1890


 From article <BuEz9F.9uG@ireq.hydro.qc.ca>, by beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard):
>
> Qu'est-ce qui est stupide?  D'avoir une toponymie francaise dans un pays
> francophone ou d'avoir une toponymie anglaise dans un pays francophone?
> Autour de 1800, ce sont les anglophones qui ont anglicise de nombreux
> endroits au Quebec.  Les franciser n'est qu'un juste retour des choses.
> 
> Et d'ailleurs, pratiquement partout dans le monde, la toponymie reflete
> la langue des habitants du pays.
> 
 
 A natural tendency for words, phrases and place names to evolve - over a
 long period of time - goes along with the normal course of language
 evolution. It is a natural part of that process. I don't argue with that.
 
 I am saying that changing the name of a street, town, or region, on purpose
 is stupid. This has nothing to do with changing English to French or French
 to English. Changing "Central Park" to say, "Buz Aldrin Park" is as stupid
 as changing "Smith Street" to "Brown Street", or "Avenue Boucher" to
 "Avenue Charpentier", or ....
 
 Now a road that was once known as, say "Magdalene Street" might, naturally,
 become known as "Rue Madeleine". It is not unreasonable to expect that, over
 a period of time.
 
 Deliberately changing a name, whether for political or commemorative
 reasons, causes confusion and expense; and it is subject to ridicule.
 
 If a memorial is needed - build a F&#%ing statue!
 
 Now, using tax payers money to fund an agency to look for ways to
 eliminate names of places in one language by replacing them with
 another. Well! :-)
-- 
  ///==================================================================\\\
  ||| Steve Potter:         steven%spxtech@CAM.ORG                     |||
  ||| Expertise/Experience: Computer Systems Engineering / Real Ale /  |||
  |||                       Politics in Education in Quebec            |||
From: sean@pet.mni.mcgill.ca (Sean MARRETT)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Re: French vs English
Date: 12 Sep 92 17:10:16 GMT
Reply-To: sean@pet.mni.mcgill.ca (Sean MARRETT)
Followup-To: mtl.general
Distribution: mtl
Organization: Positron Imaging Labs, Montreal Neurological Institute

In article <4930@daily-planet.concordia.ca>, rclark@alcor.concordia.ca (Richard Clark) writes:
> 
> I'm sick of reading english vs french stuff in this newsgroup.  It
> could well be that someone has a truly enlightened point to make,
> after all, it's only been going on since 1759, but could those who
> like to talk about this stuff please move the discussion to some
> political newsgroup.
> 

After following this newsgroup on and off for the last few month's, I would have
to agree with Richard. It seems especially sad to me that at a time when it seems
most important for tolerance and a little bit of understanding, there is an immediate
tendency for discussions here to escalate (or rather degenerate) into flame wars. 
All too often we see the exchange of tired clich'{e}s, rather than any very reasoned
debate. Sigh.

Why should this group be any different from so many other's, though?. It seems as if
there is a natural tendency in Usenet discussions for dicussions to degrade, way too
much noise for too little signal. Could I suggest that some of the hot-heads take
this opportunity to go check the Emily Post-news articles in news.newusers for a 
refresher course on Netettiquette?

Don't get me wrong - There is obviously a lot to discuss about the relationship between
the different ethnic and linguistic communities in Montreal. The current political
situation makes it difficult to untangle political disputes from the more deeply rooted
problem of ethnic/linguistic friction. I doubt that anyone from Toronto or Vancouver
will be able to provide any deep insight into the relationships between Montrealer's,
although they may have something to say about the interaction between Quebec and
English Canada.

On the other hand, someone in this group might be able to share their views on life
in different parts of the city, which is a topic I am currently interested in. 
I have just moved to the West-End (NDG) after spending the last 10 years or so 
living in the Plateau district. I find that I am more comfortable in the NDG area 
than downtown.   My question is, is this purely a result of moving
back into an English enviroment, or are there francophones who have felt the same way 
after moving out of the Plateau? More generally, what do people like and dislike
about living in the different parts of the city?

Best wishes for a more centred discussion in this newsgroup

Sean
--------------------------------------------------------
Sean Marrett                     email: sean@pet.mni.mcgill.ca 
wb213, PET Unit, Montreal Neurological Institute.
3801 University St., Montreal, Quebec.	H3A 2B4 
                                 tel:(514)-398-1537,1996 Fax: 8948
From: jeanf00@DMI.USherb.CA (FREDERIC JEAN)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Congres informatique inter-universitaire de Sherbrooke
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:44:42 GMT
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- departement de Mathematiques et d'Informatique



		C.I.I.U.S. 	C.I.I.U.S. 	C.I.I.U.S. 	C.I.I.U.S. 	C.I.I.U.S. 	C.I.I.U.S. 



		LE CONGRES INFORMATIQUE INTER-UNIVERSITAIRE DE SHERBROOKE APPROCHE A GRAND PAS.

		CETTE PREMIERE AURA LIEU LE 18 ET 19 SEPTEMBRE 1992 A L'HOTEL DELTA DE SHERBROOKE.

		DIX CONFERENCIERS SERONT PRESENTS:

		
				- M. JEAN-MARC PROULX DE D.M.R.
				- M. MARIO ROBERT DE NOVASYS
				- M. JEAN-FRANCOIS LEDUC DE L'ALCAN
				- M. RONALD BRISEBOIS DE COGNICASE
				- M. VINCENT VAN DON GEN DU C.R.I.M.
				- MME FABIENNE FAYAB DE COGNISYS
				- M. ROBERT MARCHAND V.P. DE COSIT INC. ET MEMBRE DE L'APIIC
				- M. LOUIS LAMOTHE DU MINISTERE DES COMMUNICATIONS DU QUEBEC
				- M. GEAUDRY DELISLE DE PRODUIT FORESTIER CANADIEN PACIFIQUE
				- M. KNUUTILA DIRECTEUR DU R&D CHEZ TELEGLOBE CANADA



		EN PLUS DE CES CONFERENCES, IL Y AURA UNE SALLE D'EXPOSITION INFORMATIQUE, UN COCKTAIL, UN SOUPER,
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			- POUR LES ETUDIANTS DE SHERBROOKE, LES BILLETS SONT EN VENTES AU MARIE-VICTORIN
			
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From: grenade@ozrout.uucp (Kate McDonnell)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Re: Murrayville [Re: Ou est St.Catharines]
Date: 12 Sep 92 04:57:43 GMT
Organization: Andre P. Ozrout

Denis Beauregard writes:
>Quant a St.Catharines, j'ai l'impression que c'est un endroit dans
>l'ile de Montreal, peut-etre meme pres de la vieille ville des annees 1800.

Est-ce qu'il y a une paroisse du meme nom? J'habite pres de
l'eglise St-Jean-Baptiste (a Montreal) et j'ai lu quelque part
que ce quartier a porte ce nom dans le XIX siecle.

C'est aussi possible de chercher des vieilles cartes dans la
bibliotheque centrale sur la rue Sherbrooke...



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From: steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Re: Ou est St.Catharines
Date: 12 Sep 92 01:55:49 GMT
Organization: Securiplex Technologies Inc., Montreal, Canada
X-Bytes: 1623

From article <1992Sep11.180929.21229@cc.umontreal.ca>, by mcnichol@ERE.UMontreal.CA (McNichols Andre):
> In article <1992Sep11.110732.2265@spxtech.qc.ca> steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter) writes:
>>From article <1992Sep11.125644.13670@cc.umontreal.ca>, by mcnichol@ERE.UMontreal.CA (McNichols Andre):
>>
>>> Puisque Monsieur Potter deteste tant tout ce qui se fait au Quebec,
>>
>>I don't.
>>
>>> pourquoi persiste-t-il donc a tous nous faire c... avec ses commentaires
>>> agressifs (et stupides comme il le dirait lui-meme)?
>>> 
>>
>>It is to be expected that intolerant people would perceive criticism of
>>their attitudes and beliefs as "agressif" and "stupide".
>>
>>
> Je maintiens les qualificatifs de "agressif" et "stupide" et j'ajoute meme
> impoli.  De plus la vieille technique consistant a decouper les messages
> en petits morceaux pour leur enlever tout leur sens est utilisee abondamment
> dans la propagande francophobe de notre "ami".

"propogande francophobe" !?
"Francophobic propoganda" !?

Ce n'est pas de moi qu'il parle. [?]
It's not me he's talking about.

Quoi? - tu dit que c'est de moi, ca?
What? - you say it is about me?

OK :-)

Si c'est comme tu le percoit[?].
If that's how you see it.

Si tu l'aime[?] :-)
If you like :-)

Aucune defence :-)
No argument :-)

If the shoe fits! :-)

-- 
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  ||| Steve Potter:         steven%spxtech@CAM.ORG                     |||
  ||| Expertise/Experience: Computer Systems Engineering / Real Ale /  |||
  |||                       Politics in Education in Quebec            |||
From: root@geophys.mcgill.ca (Steeve)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Re: Traduction de 'computer geek'
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:28:33 GMT
Distribution: mtl
Organization: McGill University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Please post any resposes to root@pooh.geophys.mcgill.ca, NOT
root@cc.mcgill.ca.
From: alami@McRCIM.McGill.EDU (Wassim Alami)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Montreal International Film Fest.
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:31:56 GMT
Organization: McGill Research Centre for  Intelligent Machines
Originator: alami@aragorn.mcrcim.mcgill.edu



The most difficult part about such festivals (at least for me)
is how to choose the movies to watch.

Anyone out there knows of a critical review of this years selection?
If not, how do you go about selecting your films?

Wassim Alami
From: thierry@ozrout.uucp (Thierry Daigneault)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Record Stores
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:14:35 GMT
Organization: A.P.Ozrout
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Hi!

  Just wondering if people could mail me (or post here) a few names of
record stores in Mtl where I could find a good selection of either:
  - used records
  - rare records
  - bootlegs (or are they illegal?)

  Thanks!

   Thierry

P.s.: if you have problems with the mail, official adress is 
  thierry@ozrout.uucp
From: ray@philmtl.philips.ca (Ray Dunn)
Newsgroups: mtl.general,mcgill.unix
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: UNiX Workstation
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:45:22 GMT
Distribution: mtl
Organization: On the Brew.

In referenced article, loki@nazgul.physics.mcgill.ca (Loki Jorgenson) writes:
>MassComp MC-500 workstation (with spare for parts) FOR SALE:
>	+ 4M core memory 
             ^^^^
              ||
Is the machine that old, or is it just you (like me) that's showing your
age??  (:-)
-- 
Ray Dunn at home    |    ray@philmtl.philips.ca    |    (514) 630 3749
From: irwin@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Irwin David)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Survey-Questionnaire
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:13:34 GMT
Distribution: qc
Organization: Universite de Montreal


					Montreal, Fall 1992.

To whom it may concern,

In order to complete a Ph.D. dissertation in the field of political science 
I must verify a certain number of propositions. To do so, I must gather data.
To gather data I must ask people to fill a questionnaire.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
If yourself or your parents were born in a country other than Canada you| 
qualify as a respondent. You must also be a resident of the province 
of Quebec.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you wish to receive a copy of the questionnaire or further details, please 
send me a message or provide me with a postal address. You should expect the
questionnaire to arrive via Canada Post within the week. 

P.S. Thank you to those who have already accepted to participate in the
study.

Regards.

David H. Irwin

Please note: this posting should appear only in the Quebec distribution
area. If you can read this posting outside the province of Quebec, please
disregard it. The survey is limited to Quebec residents. Thanx!

David H. Irwin				E-mail: irwin@ere.umontreal.ca
University of Montreal