HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: csg022@cck.coventry.ac.uk (PROC)
Subject: Re: Convert picture formats??? Which program?
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 11:59:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.131853.9037@aston.ac.uk> wrighttj@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Auntie Tim) writes:
>Gif to mono conversion is really only two or three programs. Gemview is
>slightly more powerful, but can only save in .IMG format; use a screen
>dump utility or some such. ViewGif is pretty much as good, but doesn't
>have as many features, though it saves in DEGAS and is (I think?) 
>slightly faster. MGIF37 is a mono gif viewer; is has masses of features
>like histogram equalisation, but uses a proprietary file format using
>flicker palettes; very good results but can only be shown by that
>program. All three programs are on atari.archive.

	There are plenty of GIF to SPECTRUM converters in the
	PD. Some of them can't handle the size of the original
	GIF file so they make an attempt, sometimes successful,
	sometimes not. The odd one can be very good. You'd
	then need 512:SHOW.PRG, that's PD too.
	I'd rather have a GIF to RAW proggy, though.
	Somebody write one for us.....

	..Mark
	
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Date: Fri,  9 Oct 1992 14:02:16 -0400 
From: Stefan Monnier <osoelgaultier+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Which programming language?
	<1992Oct7.123440.10960@cs.mcgill.ca>

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.atari.st: 7-Oct-92 Re: Which programming
langu.. Patrick BETREMIEUX@cs.mc (323)

> I must agree with him wholehartedly. C is the best way to go (Easy enough to
> learn, and it's the one that lets you use the ST's power the most).

> As for books, I'm not sure if they are still in print, but I find that the
> Abacus books ("Atari ST Internals" and "GEM Programmers reference") are your
> best buy.

> 					Patrick.


I personnally suggest not to choose one language but learn a bunch
of them: it's GREAT FUN and permits you to have a good idea of
programming !

But of course the easiest way is C (sozobon or Gcc)cause it is
widely used and has good debugging tools !

	Stefan

PS: the best debuggers are for C, cause it's the language
that needs them at most !

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From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: New Mac Prices tough on Falcon
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:13:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: wet.4347
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <1992Oct7.130423.15499@zooid.guild.org> kovarski@zooid.guild.org (Mark Kovarski) writes:
>
>The big question is, will Atari survive? Considering the circumstances, there
>is very little hope for this company. Apple will release their new line of

Mark give it a rest, all right?!

Atari's been in worse conditions before.  People have been saying for years
that Atari won't survive.  Well, surprise, they're still here.

"Experts" have been saying that Apple won't survive.  I read in Microtimes'
100th issue today that they don't think IBM will survive past the next 200
issues.  They say that IBM will enter the clone market and become extinct.
Yeah, right...



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: bpat@cs.mcgill.ca (Patrick BETREMIEUX)
Subject: Re: Which programming language?
Keywords: just my opinion, C
Organization: McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:34:40 GMT

I must agree with him wholehartedly. C is the best way to go (Easy enough to
learn, and it's the one that lets you use the ST's power the most).

As for books, I'm not sure if they are still in print, but I find that the
Abacus books ("Atari ST Internals" and "GEM Programmers reference") are your
best buy.

					Patrick.
From: mhughes@comtch.spk.wa.us (Mark Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Pandora BBS's lastuser.log file
Date: 11 Oct 92 20:45:41 GMT
Organization: Waffle BBS at CompuTech Spokane, Washington


  Does anyone know the structure of Pandora's lastuser.log file?  I need 
to hack up a fossil driver for it, so I can run Space Trader...  In fact, 
any structure info for any BBS would be nice to have, I'd like to make a 
generic fossil driver that will pretend to be any BBS you want.  So far, 
I have Forem and STar-Net's formats.
 
  Gee, 'twould sure be nice if all the BBS's used one door file format, 
like the PCs do...  <sigh>
 
 - Mark Hughes (Caves of Steel 509-624-2078)  mhughes@comtch.spk.wa.us
From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: comp.sys.atari.falcon
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:06:26 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <Bvs935.4pr@unix.amherst.edu> hjwulfso@unix.amherst.edu (HARRIS JOSHUA WULFSON) writes:
>
>     I own a 1040ST, but I am definately replacing it soon with a
>Macintosh or a Falcon or both. I wish there a falcon board so that 
>I could find out more about that machine. I've really given up on my
>ST; It was great machine when the only mac was a Plus. Now I'm just
>making do with it until I can get a new computer.

What kind of ST do you have now?  What do you use it for?  What kind of
Mac are you thinking about getting?

To be honest, one really doesn't need to know about the Falcon until they're
in the stores and you can buy one.

In terms of a 'falcon board' so you can find out more abotu the computer,
there is one.  It's called GEnie. ;^)  But everyone is just speculating and
guessing at this point since you really can't buy one.  


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: frankm@ampex.com (Frank Martyn)
Subject: SEQUENCER SALE************
Summary: Atari 520 & sequencers For Sale
Keywords: Atari, CUBASE, ALESIS MNT-8
Organization: Ampex Corporation, Redwood City CA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:50:48 GMT


SEQUENCER SALE  **  SEQUENCER SALE  **  SEQUENCER SALE  **  SEQUENCER SALE  **
SEQUENCER SALE  **  SEQUENCER SALE  **  SEQUENCER SALE  **  SEQUENCER SALE  **

____________________________________________________________________________

                 Atari 520 ST System / CUBASE Ver. 2.01

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Everything I have for the Atari is included.  Some high points of the system
are as follows:

***** 1 Meg RAM
***** 3.5" Floppy Drive  
***** 30 Meg HD
***** Atari SM-124 Hi-Res B/W Monitor
***** Clock/Calendar modification
***** All the normal stuff like cables, mouse ......
***** CUBASE Ver. 2.01 High end multi-track sequencing software      
***** NEODESK  Desk top interface
***** Various pieces of software including other sequencing/MIDI  programs

********Everything works great on this system.  I have a notice from
	Steinberg offering an upgrade of CUBASE to the next revision.
        That is also included with the system. I will not piece this
	puppy out.  One price takes it all!  I will only sell this
        system to someone in the Bay area to avoid the hassle of 
	packing and shipping it.  

PRICE: $650.00 w/o Printer
       $700.00 with Panasonic printer.  Sorry, I don't remember the 
               model number.  It is Epson compatible however.  Hardly
               used.
____________________________________________________________________________

                       Alesis MNT-8 Sequencer  

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

***** 8-Track, standalone sequencer
***** Small enough to take on a gig
***** Powerful enough to do practically anything you want
***** Includes all documentation


PRICE: $125.00

********This unit is in perfect condition.  Again, I will only sell this
	unit to someone in the Bay area for the same reasons as stated
	above.                

_____________________________________________________________________________

Reply to this account for further information.  Or call me at:

(415) 367-3087 (before 3PM weekdays)

Frank Martyn, Jr.
From: rfritz@zeus.calpoly.edu (Ryan E. Fritz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: GIF viewers
Date: 10 Oct 92 09:59:09 GMT
Organization: Psychotic Computer Geeks, Inc.


Are there any good GIF viewers?  I have been converting GIFs to SPC format
for quite some time, but would like to be able to view GIF files without
having to convert them first.  Any ideas or suggestions would be welcome!
Thanks.

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From: 01mbmccabe@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: learning assembly language
Date: 15 Oct 92 08:52:20 GMT

So how do you program assembly?  I assume one needs a compiler orf something? 
Where do you find those?   Shareware?  PD?   Where?   Are there any really good
beginners manuals?


			-Matt
From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: P.I.M. (was Re: Boston Computer Soci)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 00:17:37 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
 <1992Oct7.133247.3639@digi.lonestar.org>
  <1992Oct9.112622.11@mimas.arc.ab.ca>

Bob Erkamp writes:

>I have also seen PIM to refer to "Personal Information Manager". I too would
>like to see a different acronym.

 
Ron Luks, manager of the Atari Forums on CompuServe, and the
manager of the Palmtop Forum, contacted this month's Atari
advertising agency about the use of the term "PIM" in relation
to the Falcon..

The people there were surprised to find out that "PIM" is generally
understood to mean "Personal Information Manager", referring to small
electronic notebooks like the Wizard and Portfolio..
 
They thought they'd invented it..

BobR
From: leonp@cs.kun.nl (Leon Pillich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Mail reader program?
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:13:04 GMT
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands

Hello folks,
I'm looking for a simple program to browse through and read my mail.
I download my mail from our universities unix machine(s) and I want to be
able to read it on my atari. Just reading it in an editor or normal
file browser is not enough because:
a) You dont have nicely formatted headres
b) On the unix system I use mh that produces numbered files in mail format
   so I need a list with subjects before I can choose what file to read.

Does anybody know if there is such a program available for atari?

Thnx,


Leon Pillich
University of Nijmegen, Holland
email: leonp@cs.kun.nl
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: weiner@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Jeff Weiner)
Subject: Re: Atari FTP sites
Organization: University of Michigan
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:50:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.043634.13681@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.220910.17354@ulrik.uio.no>, jarleb@athena.uio.no (Jarle Brinchmann) writes:
>>
>>Back in the old days Chris Wood used to compile a
>>quite good list over anonymous ftp sites. Much better than
>>what you get from using archie....
>>
>>Is he or somebody else doing this still, my last list is from
>>29/04 -92. (Well maybe not so old days) ?
>>
>
>Unfortunetely, no.  I have a copy of the last version, which I still use a 
>lot (greps are always faster than archie :-).  If there is enough interest, 
>I can post it.
>

There's a copy of his most recent version at atari.archive.umich.edu,
which was current up to 1 Sept. 92, and may still be.  I'd be happy to 
accept changes to it for him, as I recall he lost his internet account
a few weeks ago.  


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: P.I.M. (was Re: Boston Computer Soci)
From: erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA (Bob Erkamp)
Date: 9 Oct 92 11:25:47 MDT
Reply-To: erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA
Organization: Alberta Research Council

In article <1992Oct7.133247.3639@digi.lonestar.org>, rgoseweh@digi.lonestar.org (Roy Gosewehr) writes:
>In article <393.2AD12C03@gisatl.fidonet.org> John.David.Carter@f308.n133.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John David Carter) writes:
>>I think that Atari AVI sounds great!  Except that it should probably stand
>>for Atari AUDIO/VIDEO INTERLINK!  or not...
>
>I just discovered (over the weekend) that Philips is using "PIM" to
>stand for "Philips Interactive Media", i.e., the new CD-I system.  As a
>matter of fact, the Philips US subsidiary that will promote CD-I is
>named PIMA (Philips Interactive Media of America). 
>
>IMHO, Atari should find themselves an acronym other than PIM.  Possibly
>the one noted above - or not. :-)
>
I have also seen PIM to refer to "Personal Information Manager". I too would 
like to see a different acronym.

Bob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: sanfrids@e.kth.se
Subject: Re: HELP! How do I do a batch LHarc with a CLI?
Reply-To: sanfrids@e.kth.se
Organization: KTH, Royal Institute of Technology, School of Electrical Engineering
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:15:16 GMT

You don't need a cli to pack in .lzh format. Just issue C *.mod to pack your modfiles if you have LHarc 2.01 by Thomas Quester. You can then put AFX.PRG in your AUTO-folder and have instant access to all packed files.
 
The filenames will be the same. Very practial, I use it to pack my Calamus fonts and it saves a lot of space on my harddisk.
From: 01mbmccabe@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Why no inport/export?
Date: 15 Oct 92 08:47:12 GMT

In article <wmtwen.719056117@rw8.urc.tue.nl>, wmtwen@rw8.urc.tue.nl (Erlend Nagel) writes:
> darling@cellar.org (Thomas Darling) writes:
> 
>>In this day and age, when you can buy an Alesis Data Disk for $400 that is
>>road-worthy and fits in one rack space, there's a scant handful of people
> Ha, there is a German firm (yes again German :) that builds ST's into
> 19" racks. The things looked very sophisticated to me. It even provided
> an extra midi thru port. And it had a very clean front. Just the reset
> button and power switch on front. The backside had all the connections
> the ST has plus a keyboard connector and the fact that the rom port had
> been buffered. The case was also a lot flatter than I am used to from
> my 1040STF. Great for musicians and I am sure there will be something
> like this for the falcon. So nobody hesitate buying a falcon :)
> 
> Erlend.


Any clue why Atari doesn't encourage exporting/importing of these kinds of
products more?  Sounds like a great idea!


				-Matt
From: Ralph_Steins@bn.maus.de (Ralph Steins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: copying files from SPARC to AT
Date: 11 Oct 92 20:24:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: BN.A6510
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.14

etlgtme@etlxd20.ericsson.se am Fr, 09.10.92 16:14 in CS.ATARI
e>Can anyone tell me how its done ??

All you need is a working 'tar' for your ST. Format a floppy disk on your ST
and put into the drive of the SPARC-station. Then use the 'tar'-command of
SUN-OS to copy the files to the disk ('tar -cfv /dev/rfd0c *.c' for example, if
rfd0c is the name of the floppy drive).
Finished, you put the disk into your Atari and use 'tar -xv' to extract the
archive from the disk. (You need to have a harddisk and a commandline
interpreter to do it exactly like this).

Greetings,
Ralph
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: tevans@unislc.uucp (Terry Evans)
Subject: HELP: Emacs-18.58 not loading lisp files
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:10:20 GMT

   I just downloaded emacs-18.58 and for some reason it is not
finding my lisp files.  I am using MiNT.95 and I have my 
EMACSLIB set to 'd:/usr/bin/emacs/lisp' where all of my lisp files
are located.  If it is not EMACSLIB that I set to lisp files please
let me know.  If I load a library and include the above path it
will load them just fine.  It just errors when it tries  to
automatically include libraries (ex: from my emacs.rc file).  If 
somebody has any ideas please let me know.

tevans@cs.utah.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: A question & a comment
Date: 15 Oct 1992 19:09:19 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Distribution: world,local
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Atari are using the older STE-type case for the Falcon, because they still
had a LOT of them sitting in a ware-house/storage area.  (Or so ST-Report
stated)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Subject: Re: Sending file from CIS -> InterNet
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:32:30 GMT

In article <Bvv9Fu.9pt@news.cso.uiuc.edu> wmagro@uiuc.edu (William Magro) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.083146.8035@ac.dal.ca> cordes@ac.dal.ca (John Cordes)  
>writes:
>:^) 
>:^)  I'm wondering if someone on CompuServe can send a file to an InterNet
>:^) address? Anybody know? 
>:^) 
>
>I think the best way would be to send mail _to_ compuserve and look at the  
>return address.  Mail to compuserve can be addressed as:
>
>35476.11@compuserve.com
>
>for user 35476,11 for example.  Commas are replaced by periods.

Yeah, that's right, but the original poster wanted to go the other
direction.  It can be done.  I know.  My parents send me e-mail all
the time.  I *THINK* it's something like

internet: user@system.path

Don't quote me on that though.  It's somewhere in the mailer's
documentation, I think.  If you can't figure it out, let me know via
e-mail and I'll go poking through our account to find out the
specifics for you.

Hope this helps a little.

Joe


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From: avgroeni@cs.ruu.nl (Annius Groenink)
Subject: Re: Falcon 040 / Windowing UNIX
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:44:05 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science


This might be a stupid remark but once the Atari machines are powerful
enough we could actually have them run X and then define the AES (and VDI)
in terms of X.  There exists a program for X windows (UNIX) that emulates
GEM (either TOS 1.4 or DOS 5.0 I think) based on X windows. It's called
X/GEMonX. If this is done smartly both GEM and UNIX X windows programs can
easily be run/ported to the TOS/X system.



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Laan van Borgele 24|maths/computer science at the
   7415 DJ Deventer|University of Utrecht, Holland.
From: dpg@cs.nott.ac.uk (`Grave' Dave Gymer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Chaos on atari.archive!
Date: 12 Oct 92 12:20:24 GMT
Organization: Nottingham University

In article <1992Oct9.105411.6044@crc.ac.uk> naffara@crc.ac.uk (Dr. N.A. Affara) writes:
>Can anyone tell me what directory the game Chaos is on atari.archive?
>I think it was uploaded about a week ago (?).
>Also, how is it archived? (arc, zoo, lzh?)

On the offchance that Martin hasn't responded personally... I think
the files are still in New/chaos.arc, New/chaos1.msa, and
New/chaos2.msa.  Of course, Jeff Weiner may have moved them into
Games!

-- Dave.
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From: ue@nathan.do.open.de (Udo Erdelhoff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: cyberspace
Subject: Re: Using a different font with CoNnect 1.60
Reply-To: ue@nathan.do.open.de
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:41:04 +0100

In <1992Oct4.143115.13337@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>, Ryan 'Gozar' Collins writes:

Hi,
>     Well, I've started using CoNnect 1.60, and I like it a lot, the
>only problem is the fact that on a color system, to get a window that is
>80X24, I have to use the dinky 6X6 font, which is hard to read. Does
>anyone know of the easiest way to get a 7X7 font?
where's the problem? Connect makes use of GDOS, so just use an appropriate
GDOS font to display 80x24 chars in color. The slightly more expensive way 
would be a monochrome display
/s/

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: gordonf@monashee.sfu.ca (Gordon Farrell)
Subject: Re: Case Design for Falcon
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:44:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.223559.13790@u.washington.edu> antony@milton.u.washington.edu (Anthony Hand) writes:
>I've heard this also.  I just hope that the all-in-one case doesn't scare off
so many buyers that Atari isn't able to finance this second machine.
>
>What a horrible error to make the Falcon in this fashion!

Well, aside from the cost issue that has been pointed out before (which may
of may not be a lame excuse), I can think of one possible reason for the
all-in-one design of the Falcon: musicians.  Not being one, I can only guess,
but it seems to me that it would be much easier to carry around and set up
a one-piece machine for playing shows.  Whenever I see a computer on stage,
it's usually a laptop, so I guess the fewer the number of pieces, the better.

Any musicians out there who can confire or deny my suppositions?

>Antony
>
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>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>antony@u.washington.edu
>Seattle, WA
>
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