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From: bx461@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Leo J. Mauler)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: 48 Hours with LSD
Date: 10 Jan 1993 10:21:56 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio), 
writes:  
>>like a big scare to me.  The part about doing time for the
>>weight of the paper you were busted with was kindof shitty
>>also.  I know a dude who was selling it on sugar cubes.
>>He'd really get screwed.
>
>        If you put it in a glass of OJ, they'd weigh the OJ.
 
What happens if you drop it into your home swimming pool?
 
These things can be carried to extremes...and I'm sure that if 
they tried to claim that your pool was filled with hits of 
acid, you'd actually have the courts on YOUR side...
 
Of course, you'd win in criminal court, but they'd seize the 
house and the pool because it was involved in a criminal act: 
making DEA agents look silly...
 
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: nancy@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Nancy Lebovitz)
Subject: Re: drug dog
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:38:16 GMT

In article <1icejaINN2kc@nic.umass.edu> leonard@thales.tmc.edu (Dave Leonard) writes:
>
>        My notes indicate that the pheromone associated with a female
>dog in estrus is  methyl _para_ hydroxy benzoate.  Can anyone verify
>this?  It would negate the usefulness of a 'drug dog' without causing
>any harm to the animal simply by being sprayed all over everything.

This would only work if the drug dog is male. If you want better than
50% odds, I'd stick with the bong water and get those false positives.
From: jcollier@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (John Donald Collier)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: TOMATOES!
Date: 6 Jan 1993 19:13:32 +1100
Organization: University of Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au

mjr@TIS.COM (Marcus J Ranum) writes:

>	I was WRONG! It was cucumbers. My wife's the gardener and I got
>my veggies MIXED UP! (actually, aren't tomatoes fruit? but anyhow...)

So are cucumbers :-).

There is a story about a mayor (or some other prominent citizen; I
have lost the pointer to the details) of a town in New Hampshire who
announced one day last century that he would eat a tomato on the
steps of the city hall. So the story goes, many of the local 
citizens turned out to watch him die a painful death. If anyone
knows the details I have forgotten, perhaps they can fill them in.

-- 
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HPS -- U. of Melbourne		  	Fax:   +61 3 344 7959
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: rbb3w@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Robert B. Bohn)
Subject: Kid on 48 Hours
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:26:00 GMT


About that kid on 48 Hours who unfortunately mailed the LSD to his *friend*,
I'm assuming that the guy was out-of-state. So that being the case, would his 
punishment be necessarily different had he mailed it to somebody that lived
in the same state? I know that once you cross state lines, the Feds start
to get in the action.

					Just curious,
						Bob Bohn
From: bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Save a tree, grow some dope ;-)
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:16:57 +1100
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia



        I only made the concious connection the other day, but why
aren't we making paper out of hemp fibres instead of tree trunks.
All of this destruction we're causing (logging for woodchipping) and
an alternative is right in front of us. Lets thank the "moral majority"
and the "war on drugs" folks for the perpetuation of damaging
de-forestation when we could be getting subsidised farmers to grow a
product with a ready made market (the paper miiling industry).

           Bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au  OR  bull@monu1.cc.monash.oz
                    DOD# 251  '84 VF 750   Closet Ducatisto
             Disclaimer. If you love your llama, let it lambada.
From: dave@hpdstma.ptp.hp.com (Dave Waller)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: 48 Hours with LSD
Date: 12 Jan 1993 00:10:15 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard
Distribution: world
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In article <1993Jan10.173453.18303@news.cs.indiana.edu>, "amy lynn young-leith" <alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:

|> Then a discussion on here came up about "patches."  It seemed pretty
|> well agreed that if you soaked a cotton ball in a solution of water
|> and lsd, that if placed against the skin for a time, you'd start
|> tripping.  This doesn't make sense toome.  If I take a bath, my skin
|> soaks up water, but it doesn't allow water to pass through my skin and
|> into my blood stream.  We'd all be running like hell when it rained
|> because we'd be dead, not to mention we sure as hell wouldn't swim or
|> take baths.  What's the scientific word on this? 

Oh dear... The skin is not in any way an impermeable barrier, particulary to
chemicals. Remember that the skin on your body is living tissue, except for
the very surface layers of epidermis, and that is quite porous as well.
Most water-soluable molecules, unless they are extremely large, will penetrate
the epidermis down to the dermal layers, where they can readily be absorbed
into the bloodstream.

Indeed, dermal absorption is used for the delivery of several prescription
drugs, among them the antiemetic _Scopolamine_ (marketed as TrasDerm Scop)
and the increasingly popular nicotine patches (Nicoderm and Habitrol, I
believe).

TransDerm Scop delivers very effective antiemetic properties for a period
of up to three days through a small patch placed on the skin behind the ear.
I have heard anecdotal stories of people tripping on LSD after handling
powder in the lab during production, but I can't vouch for the veracity
of these stories.

Please keep in mind that drugs and chemicals CAN be readily absorbed into
your system through your skin, and take care to wear proper protective
coverings when handling dangerous and/or carcinogenic substances.

-- 
Dave Waller
Hewlett-Packard Co.
Workstation Systems Division
Sunnyvale Channel Partner Consulting
From: dtg@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Info on Dextro please!
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:51:46 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

I am looking for info on dextro.  If anyone has an experience to share or knows
of someone who has had experiences with it, could you email me.

thanx
dave
dtg@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
From: anon.49@pax.tpa.com.au
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: drug dog
Date: 6 Jan 1993 01:12:36 +1030
Organization: PAX - Public Access Unix (Adelaide,South Australia) - Anonymous Service
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1)   A very high-pitched sound (beyond the range of human hearing) of
     sufficient intensity will cause sufficient distraction, or pain if
     you REALLY crank on the volume, to shut down ANY dog.

2)   Even neutered dogs will respond to the pheromones of another dog.

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From: jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: ABORT A SHEEP FETUS FOR JESUS (the will is unleashed, laughter)
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:40:47 GMT
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland

In article <1993Jan10.075052.1@pomona.claremont.edu> cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu (Heathen Undergarment) writes:
>you guys than actual knowledge (not that I am blameless for holding a
>less-than-useful thread) there's no point in continuing this.  If you
>don't understand, get some real knowledge.  If you're unwilling to,

Where is your "real knowledge" from? All we have seen this far is
pointers towards Nietsche (!). 

Big words, no data, no credibility. Do you really think your personal
philosophies apply to the rest of the world as "real truth"?

>!		 Bucko Gizm/Amerikan Nihilist Underground Society	      !
>i		a member of the ouphiliac order Smegma Tais		      !

You'd probably want to change your postings to alt.stupidity,
alt.sex.hamster.duct-tape or even alt.flame.

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From: bx461@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Leo J. Mauler)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: legalization in Britian
Date: 4 Jan 1993 08:19:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


[Description of Britain attempting U.S. version of anti-drug]
[battle deleted...]
>     Then they went back to a more civilized policy.  Anyone
>could get their drug of choice, pharmacutical, for FREE by
>prescription from a doctor.  All they had to do was convince
>a few people that they were really an addict and had no
>intention or ability to quit.
>
>     In fact they have to take weekly urines test to prove
>that they ARE still doing the drug and not selling it to
>others for a profit.
 
Now THERE's a weird situation: people who WANT to test 
*POSITIVE*!
 
I have to wonder about the medium used to take the drug (i.e., 
cigarettes), though.  Don't get me wrong, I prefer the British 
program to the idiocy we have in the U.S.A.   However, it seems
that using the most addictive drug in the world to help addicts
cut back on other drugs, is not the best idea!
 
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: szikopou@alfred.carleton.ca (Steven Zikopoulos)
Subject: Re: Nitrous
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 06:48:35 GMT

In <ofHAsTi00WBOI4wW12@andrew.cmu.edu> Michel Fougeres <mf0w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>Doesn't this kill super amounts of brain cells super fast?  (Lots more than
>are killed from drugs like marijuana, alcohol, LSD, X etc).
>Any factual information (don't email me, just post it) would be appreciated.
>Thanks, Ian
>(can't think of a cool quote but the bong hit on the Beastie Boys LP is mint :)



No. nitrous oxide is the safest high you can get.  The only problem is
most people don't have the medical equip. or knowledge to administer
it correctly.  You see, if you don't mix the N2O with enough O2 you
will get brain damage due to lack of oxygen (O2).  Also, you never
know what else is in it.  Medical grade is great if you can get your
hands on it.  But some people suck back the N20 that's in those spray
whip-cream cans and also get their lungs full of freon (nasty)

If you have a dentist who is a close friend and enjoys a good high
you're laughing.


Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: "amy lynn young-leith" <alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: rules for LSD
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 21:42:26 -0500

In article <726201680.AA00091@ship.wimsey.bc.ca> Diva@f729.n153.z1.ship.wimsey.bc.ca (Diva) writes:
>I first tried LSD almost five years ago...and I remember I was told of a few
>simple rules to remember when your high. I admit it is possible one could get
>so high that they could not remember these rules, but they are a good idea
>nonetheless. Here they are:
>1) Cars can hurt you.
>2) You cannot fly.
>3) Its never a good time to die.
>If those are stuck well enough in your mind, you will remember them no matter
>how high you get....and they will keep you out of most kinds of danger on your
>trip.

The experience must vary person to person more than I ever imagined,
or all the bullshit is just that... when I trip, I don't "lose" it.
I'm logical.  I don't attempt stupid things.  I don't act like I'm
crazy.  Granted, I've never sucked on 20 hits at a time, either, two
or three will do me just fine. 

I'm not saying that people shouldn't be extra careful, and have a trip
sitter handy if they don't feel comfortable, but I just don't *get*
it.  I don't even *think* of taking drugs period, alcohol to lsd, when
I'm in a bad mood, perhaps that's part of it.  Even when I'm tripping,
I can't fathom feeling *bad*.  I can scare the shit out of myself, but
I can always bring myself back, too.  That's the whole point... *I* an
scare the hell out of myself, I do it on purpose.  Perhaps I would be
scared if I were in a crappy mood when I took it in the first place,
but like I said, I don't even think of doing anything if I"m not in a
great mood.  It's rather stupid to do so, in my opinion.

I have a friend who, perhaps because she is the mothering type, would
go nuts when I would talk about tripping by myself.  Actually it was
tripping at home in the evening, and my husband goes to sleep around
midnight.  She told me about these stories where she and some friends
were cooking spaghetti and would stick thier hands in the boiling
water and... Excuse me but I think it's just because she has no common
sense when she's sober, so she's not going to have any when she's high
either.  *grin*  

Anyone else want to comment?  



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From: diviney@carson.u.washington.edu (Patrick Diviney)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: LAUGHING GAS
Summary: Don't bother with Redi-Whip (tm)
Date: 4 Jan 93 06:18:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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In article <mtymp15.726114575@staff.tc.umn.edu> mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu (David Hutton) writes:
>In <1i5rt9INN8e2@mirror.digex.com> curt@access.digex.com (curt williams) writes:
>
>Hold on.... a question about N2O and Reddi-WHip coming from a fan of whippets:
>
>How many cans of Reddi-Whip does it take to get a good, full, N2O hit?

I have never tried these so-called whippets but they would have to be
easier than trying to get a buzz off of Redi-Whip (tm).  Back in the
mid-70's a friend of mine was working the graveyard shift at a
Seven-Eleven, while chatting with him on a slow night we emptied the
propellant out of about a dozen cans of the stuff and only copped a tiny
buzz.  I can just imagine the looks on the faces of the customers who
purchased those cans.  ;)
From: pjm9806@ucs.usl.edu (Mejia Pablo J)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Bong Water etc
Date: 8 Jan 93 06:28:32 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette

In article <RODNEY.93Jan6183100@cabot.balltown.cma.com> rodney@cabot.balltown.cma.com (Rodney Peck) writes:
>
>sunflower seeds is.  There are bogus rumors about estrogen in the mj
>seeds and all sorts of stuff like that.  Of course, it's really 
>cyanide.  Just like in acid.
>

   No, stupid, it's strychnine..............


                     Allen  (not Pablo, he don't do drugs)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: gardner@convex.com (Steve Gardner)
Subject: Re: Whats wrong with a drug dog?(was RE:Drug dog()
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:44:09 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1993Jan4.231435.46103@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> epasls@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>Who the fuck cares if there's a drug dog at LHS.
>Lets look at the consequenses assuming noone fucks around
>with the dog as is being generally suggested here.
>
>a) there will be no(or less) drugs at school.
	BZZT.  There will be less Marijuana at school.  Tobacco and
	LSD will be unaffected.  Of the 3, Marijuana is the one I
	would want my kids experimenting with if I had the choice.
	

>b) It will be less easy to get high at school.
	No.  It will be just as easy to use LSD.  Frankly (oh, oh here
	come the flames) I worry a lot more about my kids taking
	LSD or smoking tobocco than smoking dope.  (Mind you, I think
	that an adult ought to be able to use LSD if they so desire
	but I think the effects are too potentially upsetting for
	young minds.)


>c) It will be very hard to distribute drugs at school.
	Wrong again. It will be very hard to distribute SOME drugs
	at school.  The odorless ones and the ones that our government
	favors will be distributed just as they always have.


>So what some of you netters are suggesting are ways to impair
>that innocent dogs senses just so that a b and c dont become true.
	See above.

>Look at yourselves folk, do drugs really belong in school even if youre
>pro-legalization.  Oh, and BTW, LHS is Lawrence(,KS) HIGH SCHOOL.
	Drugs don't belong in school but neither do dogs, police, and
	hypocrisy.  Clearly, the drug problem won't be solved by
	running the school like a prison but screwing up the drug
	dogs may help solve some of the hypocrisy problem. ;-)

	Furthermore I worry that nitwits who think that purging schools
	of marijuana will help solve the drug problem are going to hurt kids 
	worse than a little dope will.  Their ignorant and stupid policies
	will work to increase the use of far more dangerous drugs than
	marijuana.  
	


						smg

	

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: SHROOMS: agar medium
Organization: Microdata Oy
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:05:59 GMT

st1o5@Jane.UH.EDU writes:

>Also, when using a malt/yeast base for the agar, what are the proper
>proportions to mix it in with water?

   This recipe is from the McKennas' _Psilocybin: Magic Mushroom Grower's
Guide_, published under the pseudonyms O.T.Oss & O.N.Oeric, ISBN 0-932551-06-8.

   MYP or Malt-Yeast-Peptone medium is a variation on MEA very useful for long
term maintenance of desirable cultures. To 1 liter of gently boiling water add
a previously weighed and mixed powder containing:

	7 g malt extract (powder or syrup)
	1 g peptone or sytone (sp?)
      0.5 g yeast extract
       15 g agar

   Soytone and Peptone are commercial brands of a protein hydrolysate and can
be purchased from scientific or microbiological supply houses.

   g stands for 'gram', the basic unit of weight in the SI system. ;-)
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: pjm9806@ucs.usl.edu (Mejia Pablo J)
Subject: Re: SUPER CIGARETTE
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 06:03:01 GMT

In article <1ie249INNmc1@pith.uoregon.edu> christ@cie.uoregon.edu (Christian G. Smith) writes:
>  A goodly number of my friends and I smoke for the NDE (Near
>Death Experience).  [grin]  This of course means cloves (I don't
>know of a brand we +haven't tried+) and pipes and rolling your

-----------much deleted-------------------------


 One of my friends(tm) swears that he can catch a buzz by smoking catnip.
 Of course, all standard disclaimers apply (I've never tried it myself)

                                     Allen (not Pablo)



Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Whats wrong with a drug dog?(was RE:Drug dog()
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:00:49 GMT

epasls@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
: > 
: > You left out these:
: > 
: > 	d) Students will be taught that it is OK to violate someone's 
: > rights if the cause is good enough.
: 
: How are rights being violated?
: I'm very confused on this one.
: (assuming dog represents probable cause *read next post*)

Because the dog is doing the searching to obtain probable cause. Are you
really so stupid, or are you just pretending to be?

: > 	e) Students will learn that the fourth ammendment isn't worth the 
: > paper it is written on.
: 
: Again, probable cause.

See above. Once again, you are putting the "cart before the horse". Where
the hell is the probable cause for having the dog search - in the first
place?

: > 	f) Using faulty detection methods is OK if the cause is right.
: 
: When I originally posted I was under the false assumption that a drug
: dog only sniffs out drugs.

And, also fairly frequently comes up with a "false indication". It is still
a moot point. There is no cause for the random search.

: This argument is all about wheather a drug dog presents probable cause.

No, it is about there being no probable cause for the dog to be there in
the first place.

: After the experience I have decided that a drug dog does NOT present
: probable cause. Therefore I agree with d,e, and f, but only because
: the dogs we had sucked.

Good - but you need to go one step further. See above for why.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Why Marines like LSD...
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:00:31 GMT

malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:

: friend in the military, I think a Marine, though I seem to recall he was 
: talking about being shipbound - according to him the drug of choice in
: the military was doing LSD! The reasoning was that it was harder to detect
: that pot or other things. Somehow the idea of a bunch of guys stuck on 
: a ship with a pile of weapons tripping their gonads off sorta scares me...
: For that matter, the idea of anyone willing to commit to the military 
: doing LSD sorta scares me.

Why does it scare you? Do you believe that the drug automatically makes you
a sadistic killer or some sort of maniac?

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From:  ()
Subject: QUEASY WHILE BOOMING? READ ME
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: Trinity College, Hartford, CT.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:08:32 GMT

I was introduced to mushrooms and LSD by an old friend who imparted much
wisdom to me. I've only taken acid a few times, too speedy/too great a time
commitment/often too hectic (personal opinion, of course). Mushrooms are
entirely another thing. He told me that you have to listen to your body;
there comes a time after ingesting the mushrooms when you have to get up
and walk around for awhile. Not very complicated, but it worked! I really
think you have to NOT get psyched out, relax, do something to get your mind
off the temporary discomfort, and you'll be fine. Oh, also--and most
importantly--don't eat anything for a few hours before taking mushrooms,
and don't eat anything for 5-6 hours after taking them.
From: 00rggraham@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: lsd never really went away (48hours of bullshit)
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:16:46 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

i admit it has been quite a while since the show was aired...but...still...

i just have one simple problem with the way CBS portrayed lsd and the 'so
called' decrease in usage in the 70s and its return today...

did lsd ever really go away?
did it ever really have a decrease in usage?
--i personally would not know...but according to my girlfriend's brother he
said that lsd was the drug of choice in high school and even middle school when
he attended in the late 70s-early 80s.

i agree with what 'someone' said about lsd being a drug of choice because it is
easy to conceal...and that it is virtually undetectable by any easy means once
ingested..."why didn't CBS latch onto this?"...hmm...

they seemed to just want to show their ignorance by talking about the "wild
eyed stares" of cocaine users ... what about the wild eyed stares of lsd users.
geez.

questions questions questions.
seems like there's never enough answers to go around.

ross
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