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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:08:08 EDT
From:         SOHIER_DANNY%CTI%ULAVAL@CAMPUS.ULAVAL.CA
Subject:      re:Re: Powersave

Can Anybody confirm the fact that Shirley just gave out?  This would be a major
obstacle to us buying in to PowerSave....

All the best,

Danny J. Sohier
Laval University
Quebec city, Canada

Shirley's original message below....
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Sent by:Shirley Rodgers <D1SLR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>

I talked to people from Performance Technology at the ABUi conference last
week in Boston. They told me Powersave does not backup mail. I could use this
in my academic environment but my administrative offices would scream if I
couldn't restore their mail.

Shirley Rodgers
SRodgers@uakron.edu
University of Akron

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Subject: VINES & MAC : rejected printjobs
From: schaap@amc.uva.nl
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:10:41 GMT
Organization: Central computer department
Summary: rejected printjobs from mac

Dear newsreader,


I read reactions on my article about mac printservices. Thank you for that.
After that, I connected a PAP printer (apple laserwriter iig) directly to the
thin ethernet coax using an appletalk tranceiver. I changed the
destination of the printservice to PAP printer LaserWriter iig. Printing
from PC workstations is working fine (postscript). The printservice also
appears in the chooser of the macintosh. If I print something to the 
printservice, the job appears in the print queue of our vines server.
But, after a 2 or 3 minutes, the job will be rejected (at the server).
The banner gives the message "Error:timeout;OffendingCommand:timeout".
The second problem is, that the original PAP printer is also in the chooser.
In the configuration, I removed the orginal printer from the chooser.


Does anyone know how to solve the problem ? Thanks


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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:27:17 AUS
From:         Brian=Tehan%CC.staff%Swinburne@BUSTER.CC.SWIN.EDU.AU
Subject:      re: wangdat tapestreamer

Somebody suggested that it's not possible to have a dat tapestreamer on the
same scsi card as the diskdrives under 4.11(5). Does anybody have any
confirmation on that ?
Thanks in advance

Lars Boelen
University Twente The Netherlands
Boelen%fab%WMW@CIVP.UTWENTE.NL


We have Gigatrend DAT backups with one and two drives under 4.11. They work
perfectly. I've been off the air for a few days - apologies if a million
others have said the same thing.


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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:34:37 MET
From:         lanbeheer%beheer%RUU_ACCU@RUUNVI.FYS.RUU.NL
Subject:      re: wangdat tapestreamer

Yes, we tried everything under the sun, but nothing worked. Interesting is
that the combination SCSI Harddisk with EISA NIC (Racal Interlan ES3210)
didn't work with our Intel server.

Charan

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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:20:52 EDT
From:         Sandra.M.West@UM.CC.UMICH.EDU
Subject: RE: PCCONFIG LOGIN SEARCH

I have to agree with the disabling a user after login failure for a set
number of times.  I have this feature with an AS400 and I like it a lot!
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 07:59:45 EDT
From:         Thomas=C.=Gray%NetAdmin%CSS@BDRC-BANYAN.MED.UNC.EDU
Subject:      re: Powersave

We are using Powersave with an EXABYTE 2.2 gig tape drive, bought
from DARTEC (they sold them both in a bundle deal).

Powersave software is great.  If you go with the 2.2 EXABYTE, buy the
cheapest one you can.  Turns out EXABYTE makes them all and then
OEM's them out to other companies.

New version of Powersave does compression.

I talked to the PT developers at ABUI and they are STILL working on
backing up BANYAN Mail.  They are working with "Wayne" at Banyan and
hope to have it "soon".


tom gray, network administrator
UNC Chapel Hill
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:33:18 EDT
From:         Bob=See%Tech=Support%Banyan@HIPPO.BANYAN.COM
Subject:      re: SMTP headaches

We have received a few calls regarding using a setmail statement of the
format:

setmail smtp_service@smtp_group@smtp_org[smtpname@host.domain]

A wise Banyan field engineer pointed out to me that it works more reliably to
instead use the following:

setmail server_name[smtp_service@smtp_group@smtp_org[smtpname@host.domain]]

This may not have anything to do with your particular problem but, all you
Banyan smtp users may benefit from this knowledge...

Bob
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:07:00 EDT
From:         REB100@PSUVM.BITNET
Subject:      Re: cc:mail
              1 Oct 1992 16:11:50 CDT

I run CC:Mail on a Banyan network without any problems whatsoever.  What
type of problem reports did you want to hear?

Bob
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:58:57 EST
From:         Patrick=Smoker%Admin%Ag@ADMIN.AGAD.PURDUE.EDU
Subject:      re: re:Vines 5.0(5) & MACs

>We at Laval U. have experienced the following errors a few times.  We
>get a bomb when we load Vines Mail and a number 3 or 12 errror message
>along with it.
>
>All the best, have a great weekend everyone....

What Macintosh machine are you running it on?  Some older machines need
as special version to run.

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From: maf@tabatha.MAE.CWRU.Edu (Mark Fullmer)
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Subject: Re:      re: Obtaining Ethernet Address programatically
Date: 2 Oct 1992 01:50:54 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, USA
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In article <01GPG8ZLVLVM005HK0@NET.WAU.NL>,         Hendrik.Klompmaker@BEHEER.ZOD.WAU.NL writes:
|> I've been looking for that as well so if you find anything please let me know.
|> If you look in the source code of the crywnr packet drivers then you will see
|> that it's possible. I'm no assembler programmer but maybe someone else might
|> be able to extract a part from the code that will work. Scot Sharkey sure
|> knows a way to obtain it. His enetaddr.exe from csus.edu does just the trick
|> but it doesn't tell us how.
|> 

Getting the ethernet address of a nic by packet driver calls and banyan
calls is two different things.  There's a c code that does it if you have a
packet driver loaded (or dis_pkt) in putils.zip on csus.edu

mark

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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 08:28:11 EDT
From:         SOHIER_DANNY%CTI%ULAVAL@CAMPUS.ULAVAL.CA
Subject:      re: re:Vines 5.0(5) & MACs

Concerning what types of machines we were running the Vines software, the
errors occured on SE's, SE/30's an II si's.  So it's my guest that it may not
be the type of machine.....  I think therefore I'm not sure......

All the best,

Danny J. Sohier
Laval University
DSOHIER@CTI.ULAVAL.CA
From: duzan@mercury.cis.udel.edu (Gary D. Duzan)
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Subject: Re: Windows Terminal Programs with ATE
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:01:00 GMT
Organization: Your Organization Could Be Here!

In article <16060944@UMICHUM.BITNET> Duane Foster <USERSGTX@UMICHUM.BITNET> writes:
>Has anyone tried ProComm Plus for Windows on a Banyan Comm service?

   I didn't think that Windows-based terminal programs would work with
Asynchronous Terminal Emulation. Has anyone done this at all?

                                   Gary D. Duzan
                                   Network Administrator
                                   Delaware State Hospital



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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:16:02 PDT
From:         MA=Crist%Info_Sys%STG_IS@DSO3.DSD.TRW.COM
Subject:      re: Microsoft Mail and Banyan

We evaluated Microsoft Mail for our enterprise mail system.  We did not go
with it because there was no connectivity between their Mac and PC mail
products (which were developed by separate companies that Microsoft bought
out).  The PC version runs on VINES as an ordinary file based application, but
has no integration with VINES or StreetTalk.  We also evaluated cc:Mail, VINES
Mail and QuickMail from CE Software.  We went with QuickMail because it
offered the best combination of features, interoperability and multiple
platform support at the time.  This decision was significantly driven by the
fact that we have a very large installed base of Macintosh.  Our hope is that
CE Software will recognize the benefits of Banyan's Intelligent Messaging and
front-end it with a QuickMail client.

Mike Crist
TRW
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:36:51 EDT
From:         gary newcomb <76030.517@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Powersave

Thanks to one and all for the feedback on Powersave. I will be pricing the
product and drives, hopefully I can start using it in a couple of weeks.

                        Gary
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:34:31 EDT
From:         Daniel=Chen%COMPUTER%UMASS@BANYAN.UMMED.EDU
Subject:      re: Intelligent Messaging Service

>From:   David=Blair%ComputerSrvcs%WILL%BIGBIRD.WILL.UIUC.EDU@VM1.CC.UAK
>
>I talked to the VP of Marketing and the Project Manager for IM at the ABUI
>conference and here is what they had to say.  You must have Vines V5.00(5) to
>run IM.  It patches your server to Vines V5.00(6).  It is now included in all
>copies of Vines V5.00 being sold as of 09/92.  To upgrade your current Banyan
>Mail to IM is $99 per NETWORK!!  That means if you have one server to one
>thousand servers!!!  It still costs $99.  It basically improves the way Banyan

I believe LEGALLY the server, in question, has to be on subscription to
patch it with IM.

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Subject: printservices on macintosh
From: schaap@amc.uva.nl (Harry Schaap)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 07:23:25 GMT
Followup-To: bit.listserv.banyan-l
Organization: University of Amsterdam

This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader.
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 09:18:22 BST
From:         ps@JET.UK
Subject:      re: wangdat tapestreamer

Lars:

We have Olivetti XP/9's (33MHz '386) configured with 300M EDSI (Boot)
and an Adaptec 1542B (Bios enabled) with a 1GByte (SCSI ID 0) and an Archive
Python 4320NT DAT (SCSI ID 6)  Note: with the BIOS enabled the card uses SCSI
ID 7.

This works fine and runs under both 4.11(5) and 5.00(5).

regards

Paul Simmonds
Network Manager

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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:42:24 +0100
From:         Hendrik.Klompmaker@BEHEER.ZOD.WAU.NL
Subject:      re: Obtaining Ethernet Address programatically

I've been looking for that as well so if you find anything please let me know.
If you look in the source code of the crywnr packet drivers then you will see
that it's possible. I'm no assembler programmer but maybe someone else might
be able to extract a part from the code that will work. Scot Sharkey sure
knows a way to obtain it. His enetaddr.exe from csus.edu does just the trick
but it doesn't tell us how.

Greetings

Hendrik.


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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:26:53 CET
From:         Stephan=Sas%SYS%AGR@CC3.KULEUVEN.AC.BE
Subject:      re: PCPRINT under version 4.11(5)

Keith, there do exist several delay programs...such as norton BE DELAY

the pause statement..sometimes takes too long




stephan
From: coates@UMUC.UMD.EDU (Elliott Coates)
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Subject: Re: Hackable ???
Date: 3 Oct 92 21:16:56 GMT
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>Should a login sequence be surreptiously captured by a Sniffer
>or other protocol interpreter, the data is useless as a tool for session
>replay, as the NONCE - even if decoded - will no longer be valid.  The NONCE
>is also periodically validated (VSNonceAuthenticate call) during a user
>session.

Could it defend against immediate replay with the MAC adress changed to that of
the station being faked?

Elliott Coates
coates@umuc.umd.edu
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:23:00 EDT
From:         REB100@PSUVM.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Powersave

Gary,

We use Powersave and Performance Technology's tape drive.  I may be mistaken
(others, feel free to correct), but I think the tape drive is a standard
Wangtek drive.  At least, that's what our VAR said.

No problems whatsoever with the unit.  Very reliable.  Highly recommended.

Bob
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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 10:46:01 PDT
From:         HLP1%ItsLsc%CTS@CTS27.CS.PGE.COM
Subject:      re: macintosh printservice

Harry,

Only VINES print services that have a PAP printer as a destination will show
up in the chooser on a Mac.  If your print services on your server only print
to either a server attached printer or a printer driven by PCPRINT, then none
of these will show up in the chooser on a MAC.

Herb Patten
PG&E
hlp1@cs.pge.com
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Subject: Re: Hackable ???
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:34:53 GMT
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To all (especially if you are new to the list):

Do NOT believe the lies spread by Rich Warner.  He is a well known Novell
biggot who frequently tries to inject misinformation about VINES.

There is no way to capture, decode, and reinject/replay VINES packets/sessions
on the network.  The VS service will detect and prevent you from logging in.

Mike Crist
TRW
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:06:23 -0400
From:         "Patricia M. Schneider" <ICSPMS@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Powersave

 *** Reply to note of 09/29/92 18:59

 We are currently using Powersave and Performance Technology's tape
 drive.  We're backing up both Banyan and Novell networks right now
 and hope to expand to the SUN world shortly.  So far, no problems
 except that it doesn't back up the VINES software, just StreetTalk.
 I'm lead to believe that the current release of PowerSave does
 backup the VINES software, but we haven't received any updates
 yet.

 Thanks...
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Subject: macintosh support
From: schaap@amc.uva.nl
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 08:57:06 GMT
Organization: Central computer department

Dear Newsreader,


We have vines 5.00(5) running on a 880486-33 and it's working fine.
With the appletalk protocol support option we can share vilevolumes
on the server, by selecting it with the chooser. Our problem is,
that the chooser doesn't see any printservice on the banyan server.
Does anyone know how to solve the problem ? Please, help me.

Harry Schaap
University of Amsterdam (UvA)
Central Computer Department

E-Mail : schaap@amccca.amc.uva.nl


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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 22:50:11 EDT
From:         R=Stoll%SysAdmin%7CG@LGGATE2.HQ.AF.MIL
Subject:      VINES Formatter

I recently reformatted the disk in a CNS with the Universal Disk Formatter
that comes with VINES.  After the format was done, I went to install the
system software and the machine came back with "Incorrect vendor signature.
Please correct the problem and reboot".  Am I doing something stupid here?
Why won't a CNS recognize a disk that was formatted with Banyan's own
formatting software?

I should say that the drive is a 150 MB Fujitsu that came with the CNS and it
appeared to be functioning normally before I ran the format.

I'd appreciate any comments/suggestions.  I need to get this thing running
before Monday morning.  Thanks!

SSgt Robert Stoll
7th Communications Group
The Pentagon

rstoll@lggate2.hq.af.mil
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 11:22:27 -0300
From:         Rob Spellman <rob@MOTHER.BATES.EDU>
Subject:      Re: VINES & MAC : rejected printjobs
              05 Oct 92 10:10:41 GMT." <9210051519.AA06765@mother.bates.edu>

>appears in the chooser of the macintosh. If I print something to the
>printservice, the job appears in the print queue of our vines server.
>But, after a 2 or 3 minutes, the job will be rejected (at the server).
>The banner gives the message "Error:timeout;OffendingCommand:timeout".

This is a problem that I have asked about, and the answer seems to be
that there is a bug in the system 7 laserwriter driver.  I did try
using a system 6.07 laserwriter driver, and it worked.

Rob Spellman
rob@mother.bates.edu
Computing Support Services
Bates College
Lewiston, Maine
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:34:02 PDT
From:         "(Richard Warner)" <rick@SJSUMCS.SJSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Hackable ???
              "Boelen.UTWENTE.NL@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU" at Sep 30, 92 11:58 am

>
> Recently in dutch newspapers a report was published that N****l was
> fundementally designed wrong. A group of hackers were able to enter the system
> get superuser privaleges and even remove the original superuser. So far so
> good (we're not N....l users are we ?). The allarming part was that it stated
> that other networks might suffer from the same fundemental problems.
>
>                   Does Banyan belong to this group too ?
>
> (the article was published 09-19-92 in De Volkskrant)
>
> Lars Boelen
> University Twente
> The Netherlands
> R.L.Boelen@WMW.UTWENTE.NL

For those that do not follow the RED news, there have been two security
holes discussed in the Dutch press.  One was a problem that affected
older versions of Netware (pre-3.11) and patches to fix the older versions
were provided through dealers/CIS/Internet about 9 months ago.  This was
a problem in the login program, and is Novell specific.

The second problem is general and will occur on any network using
unencrypted packets (not just unencrypted passwords).  This second
'hole' that has been discussed by the Dutch folks involves putting a
tap on the physical wire, logging packets, cracking the packets, and
then putting forged packets back onto the cable.   This is not a design
flaw in that other NOS, as alluded to above, but is a problem for
UNIX, VINES, etc., as well.  If someone can 'listen' on your cable,
figure out your packet content and structure, and place forged
packets onto your cable - you will experience this problem independent
of the NOS you are running.

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