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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Won't be in Colorado...
Keywords: Att: Ken Murphy
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:01:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Nov11.160158.5289
Distribution: na
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <22320@drutx.ATT.COM> klf@druwa.ATT.COM (FranklinKL) writes:
>
>In Message <2929@monarch.array.com>
>Wake up and smell the coffee!  Amendment 2 is NOT about "protected status".
>Basically, Amendment 2 stipulates that no governmental entity within Colorado
>can enact legislation that prohibits discrimination against gays, lesbians or
>bisexuals, based on sexual orientation.  Note that GAYS, LESBIANS and
>BISEXUALS are specifically singled out here.  Any city is perfectly free
>to protect heterosexuals from discrimination based on sexual preference.

For that matter, it sounds like zoophiles, necrophiles, and pedophiles
can also achieve a protected status.

>Amendment 2 specifically targets gays.  The campaign to pass Amendment
>2, run by Colorado for Family Values, was cleverly done.  They carefully

Family Values, indeed.

>Another indication that they gave not a shit about family values
>was their selection of that hypocritical butthole, Bill McCartney,
>as a spokesman.  Here's a man who publically condoned his daughters
>giving birth to an out of wedlock child, and we're supposed to
>believe he gives a damn about family values.

He was probably going for the Murphy Brown vote...


Sigh.

I didn't drink Coors to begin with.  Time to stop drinking Killian's,
as well.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Re: Passenger Clothing (how fascist are YOU?)
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 19:41:12 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Nov7.071302.13943@panix.com> bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman) writes:
>My wife rides with me as a passenger, usually on balmy summer weekends.
>She prefers to wear jeans and sneakers. I bought her a nice leather
>jacket, and a good helmet. She strongly resists wearing gloves, boots,
>or more protective gear.  She always wears a properly fitted, properly
>fastened helmet.

>How do you deal with your passenger's clothing choices?

He or she (usually she) can wear whatever the hell she wants to.
This has included a lycra miniskirt and fishnet stockings, high
heels, a blouse and a smile.

They get a *detailed* description of consequences though, before
they get on.

I'm a pretty careful rider, most of the time, and much more 
careful with a passenger on the back. I've never even come
close to falling with a passenger.

I do make them wear a helmet, but  that's only because I would
get the ticket and the points on my license. Otherwise that would
be up to them as well.

Regards, Charles
DoD 0.001
RZ350
-- 
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles.harley
From: tim@intrepid.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tim Seiss)
Subject: Re: Get your wallets out...
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:59:41 GMT

In Message-ID: <1992Nov6.150133.1249@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> the Keeper of
the 'Tude writes:

>While much of the clothing is made overseas (leather is done overseas because
>green regulations in the USA make vat dying prohibitively expensive here),
>96.5% of the parts (about 86% of the parts value) on a Harley is made
>in the USA from US materials.  Not bad...
>
>- Roid

I'm curious about what parts are non-USA made on the current bikes.  I
am under the impression that the forks and shocks are Showa units and 
the carb is a Keihin, made in Japan.  Is this correct?  Thanks.

Tim Seiss
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Test your knowledge
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:29:54 GMT

alex@lyra.colorado.edu (Alex Matthews) writes:

>Quiz for First Snow Partygoers:

I believe that the correct answer for all of the questions is:
"All Of The Above"

>(Partial credit will be awarded.)

So what do I win?
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: K75 or K100 (why 100?)
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:23:16 GMT

chris@neon.rain.com (Chris Perez) writes:
>>bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman) writes:

>>>I'm considering one of the following for my new spring bike:
>>>	FJ1200
>>>	K75s
>>>	R100RS

>Actually, look into a new Ducati 907.  You'd have more smiles per mile
>and touring comfort to spare. 

Be warned, this recommendation comes from a man that rode a 500cc Ducati
from the Pacific North Wet to Steamboat Springs, Colorado, and called it
a fun weekend! I feel compelled to mention that said Duck was equipped
with all the touring luxuries, including an oak-plank seat and rigid
rear suspension. Chris' idea of "touring comfort" would likely scare the
Spanish Inquisition.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: espen@itekiris.kjemi.unit.no (Espen Olsen)
Subject: Automatic registration/privacy [was] Solution to toll booth troubles
Summary: automatic vehicle identification
Keywords: Systems
Organization: SINTEF
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 15:28:54 GMT

In article <1dh9ggINNnbs@morrow.stanford.edu> karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (
>In article <espen.3.0@itekiris.kjemi.unit.no> espen@
itekiris.kjemi.unit.no>(Espen Olsen) writes:

>>Here in Norway we have a really nice system called *Q-free*.  It consists of 
>>a UHF transmitter/reciever located above the road and a passive card (SAW) 
>>about 3x10x1cm big, at the vehicle.  This system is installed in Singapore 
>>and Portugal as well as several places in Norway>

>Most of these systems make it possible for the toll collection
>records to save a record of your comings and goings.  Is your
>privacy worth the convenience?

WOOPS, this is right, and I don't like it either. There were a lot of 
discussion before they installed the systems here. But then they made a 
law saying that it is forbidden to use registrations of any kind for 
something not originally intended. As an example, when a stolen car is 
identified the police could automatically be warned - a nice thing *except* 
for the foul breath of Orwell's 1984.... Anyway this is not allowed here (
but what they do in Indonesia may be another story...  (probably IS) :-(  
Because of these cricics, the company which make the system actually 
modified it so that each car(d) not can be identified, it just 
recieves a signal saying *payed* :-)  WE have still got the old system 
though...  But back to the registration/privacy debate;  I would not like 
feeling being watched, and actually I don't do because I trust the courts 
and the police here.  However I agree with Chuck in this concern.  BUT since 
they decided they were going to put up toll booths encircling some cities, I 
find it a lot more convenient to speed through, rather than having to stop 
and wait in a queue when drive to work in the winter.  Of course, in the 
summer you RIDE to work, and since motorcycles are free you don't have a 
card and consequently don't care....  ;-P  

>There are some variants that preserve privacy.  If you want
>to make sure that those are the ones chosen for your area,
>make sure your elected reresentatives understand your
>concerns.  This advice, obviously, does not apply in
>Singapore.
>-->

WHAT alternatives???? as far as I know the only other such system is the 
Amtech one wich is just the same but with an active transmitter... 

Espen Olsen				*	Naar Fantomet spyr
Norwegian Inst. of Technology		*	er festen over
N-7034 Trondheim			*	Gammelt Jungelord
E-mail: espen@itekiris.kjemi.unit.no	*	'57 Triumph Speed Twin
					*	LA6MGA/ no DoD#
						'who the hell is KotL'
From: thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Help with an electrical problem
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:19:38 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

kmac@cisco.com (Karl MacRae) writes:

>	It seems to either be loosing charge, or not charging properly.
>	But I dunno how to tell which it is.

To figure this out you'll need a voltmeter.  The digital ones are the 
easiest to use.  Borrow one from a friend or pick one up at Radio Shack,
they cost $20 or $25.  Now connect the two leads to the two terminals
of your battery while the bike is running and read what the voltage says.
(Oh, run the engine a ways above idle while you're doing this - say 3K RPM)
The voltage should read about 13.5 volts, give or take 1 volt.  If it is
low, you have a problem in your charging circuit.  (It could be a bad
alternator, a bad regulator, a bad rectifier, or bad wiring)  If the 
voltage is OK, and your battery keeps loosing charge, then it's time to
replace the battery.  (First make sure it's not just low on water, though)

Good luck,
-- 
Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: barry@geovision.gvc.com (Barry Comer)
Subject: Re: Bikes in the House
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:17:59 GMT

A friend of mine has his Honda RC30 in his living room next
to his tv.  He says it is worth too much to drive on the road.
It has almost no miles on it, lots of bucks for a piece of
furniture.

cheers
Barry

P.S. Is it spring yet??


-- 

Thanks

Dan
From: gunnj@ddn-wms.nmi.com (Janet Gunn)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Shaft effect, What is it?
Summary: shaft drives on the racetrack
Date: 4 Nov 92 14:40:53 GMT
Organization: Network Mgmt Inc., Fairfax, VA

In article <1992Oct25.034838.20225@megatek.com>, randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis) writes:
> 
>   You can ignore my opinion on it, and simply ask the racers, though...
>
> |You will only be able to compare chain and shaft re their effect on performance on
> |a racetrack if you want any meaningful results.
> 
>   I beleive its been done.  Guess why you don't see any shaft drives racing...
> 
Make that "you don't see many", not "you don't see any".
Mike Tiberio finished 10th overal in the AMA Pro twins class this year -
on a SHAFT DRIVE Moto Guzzi.

Janet gunnj@nmi.com
The "reply to" is probably WRONG
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Not A Problem?
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:40:35 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

tjohnson@atcc5.prime.com (Tod J Johnson) writes:

>In article <BD.92Nov2120836@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>>
>>Accidental deaths are really not that big of
>>a problem (2,000 or so per year)(from handguns)
>>
>>   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
>
>Brice;
>
>I realize I am well over my quota of wise-ass remarks for the day; and
>certainly am not to be commended about encouraging posts about handguns here at
>rec.motorcycles. However, your comment is easily the most inappropriate that
>has ever graced this fine newsgroup. Suggesting that 2,000 deaths per year is
>"not that big of a problem" is the most absurd and tasteless comment to be cast
>on this out-of-place and redunant discussion. Get this shit out of here, and get 
>a grip on the value of a human life. 
>
>Very Sincere;
>
>Tod J. Johnson

1991 Information Please Almanac, reprinted w/o permission.
Accidental Deaths Information for 1988

Motor vehicle deaths  49,000
Falls                 12,000
Drowning               5,000
Fire burns             5,000
Choking                3,600
Poison  (solid/liquid) 5,300
Firearms               1,400
Poison (gas)           1,000

Sorry if you don't like my phrasing, Tod, but I submit that
1,400 deaths per year by firearms (the actual figure, not my 
off-the-cuff estimate) is *not* that big of a
problem, certainly not a big enough problem to justify
changing the Constitution for.

I do have a grip on the value of a human life, Tod, which
is why I have not contributed to the accidental death
by firearms figure.  I haven't shot anybody.

With 2,000,000 people dying in 1988, almost 50,000 worth
by motor vehicles (and no-one seriously talking about taking
away everbody's car), almost 500,000 people dying from cancer
and 985,000 dying from cardiovascular disease (and no-one talking 
about outlawing cigarettes and instituting a national health diet) I
really can't get upset about 1,400 dead from guns.

I don't have any figures on national deaths in motorcycle accidents.
Do you want them banned, too?

Now, if was my *tone* you objected too, as opposed to what
I was saying, I have to blame that on UNIX.  I have a 
tact-checker on my MS-DOS word processor, but they haven't ported
it to UNIX yet.

-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
From: mtaffe@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Michael Taffe)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: REQUEST: short fella has a question or two
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:10:50 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Nov11.061706.18150@wam.umd.edu> andyboyl@wam.umd.edu (Andrew 'OPIE' Boyle) writes:
>
>1- I am pretty short, 5'4", with a 29" inseam (which I guess is important
>  if I want to keep my you-know-whats). I weigh about 135. This may 
>   sound like a stupid question, but am I to short to handle a bike
>   safely?  What brand bikes, less than 600cc and without crazy insurance
>   costs, would fit best?

I would suggest you try to find a Honda CB-1 (400cc) or the Suz GS500E (from
89-, I think--anyway, the current one) and a pair of boots with a good heel
on them.  You should be able to reach the ground easily.

>6- What is the difference between a 250cc and a 500cc bike? Does the 500cc
>   have twice as much power?

250cc. (duh! :-))

>7- I would like the bike to have the space and power for a passenger.  What
>    special features should I look for?

A two-up seat and passenger peggies for starters.

>9- Would it be wise to join a motorcycle club in the mean time, to learn
>    what I want and to understand the lingo?  What are some good ones
>    around DC?

Umm, I hate to be the one to break it to you but you ARE ALREADY (at least
partway) in the Coolest Moto Club In The World (tm).

#0753


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: agent86@netcom.com (Michael McBride)
Subject: Re: Uneven pavement
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:52:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.175933.1971@wixer.cactus.org> lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.171426.23293@ge-dab.GE.COM> jerry@stratford.dab.ge.com (Jerry Szulinski) writes:
>>
>>"Motorcycles comprise 2.5% of U.S. vehicles, yet are invovlved in only
>> 1.1% of the accidents."
>
>Of all the people who ate pickles in 1892, NONE are still alive today.
>Ergo, pickles are lethal, and should be banned.

	not true...see below.
>
>>Well .... even though I hate statistics as they can be twisted every which way;
>
>Oh, well, you'd already said this. I guess I can tag my own ":)" on this
>article now. And yes, I realize you said that BEFORE the statistic, but it
>would have ruined the flavor of my response, so flame THIS.

	My great-Grandmother is still alive and 104 years old!... And I
	happen to know that as a 4 year old girl she did in fact eat 
	pickles!....so!  Pickles are very very dangerous, but certainly
	not lethal!


-- 
 ___________________________________________________________________________
                                  || Michael McBride   [agent86@netcom.com]
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: howland@noc.arc.nasa.gov (Curtis Howland)
Subject: Re: Not A Problem?
Organization: NASA Science Internet Project Office
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:12:59 GMT


|> >>Oh, and whilst you are about it, look and see how many lives you
|> >>could save by banning motorcycles. Shit, what's more important,
|> >>"human life" or being allowed to ride a machine which can
|> >>be conclusively demonstrated as unsafe.

|> >	Yeah, and whilst you are about it, look how many lives you 
|> >	could save by banning swords.  Hell, a sword is more effective
|> >	than a gun at less than about ten feet.  Shit, what is more
|> >	important, "human life" or protecting your friends?....

Thanks a lot guys. I finally figure how to shift,
accelerate, turn AND swing the saber effectivly,
now your talking about outlawing my saber, and
my sabre? Geeeee.

Obwhatever: It's amazing how cops have tried to
justify that a 3' saber in a chrome scabbard is
a "consealed weapon" since you can't see the blade...

---
Curt Howland "Ace"       DoD#0663       EFF#538
howland@nsipo.nasa.gov            '82 V45 Sabre
  Don't bother arguing with drunks or zealots
they're not listening to anyone but themselves.
From: rtaraz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: DoD
Date: 9 Nov 92 12:36:11
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: amir@ms.uky.edu's message of Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:28:47 GMT

>>>>> On Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:28:47 GMT, amir@ms.uky.edu (Amir Sadr) said:

amir> In article <721185461snx@swamp.demon.co.uk>
amir> Neil@swamp.demon.co.uk (njb) writes:
>Can anybody tell a newcomer WTH Do means?

amir> 1. do \(')du:, d*(-w)\ \(')did, d*d\ \'d*n\ \'du:-in\ \(')d*z\
amir> vb or did; or done or do.ing or does [ME don, fr. OE do-n; akin
amir> to OHG tuon to do, L -dereX to put, facere to make, do, Gk
amir> tithenai to place, set 1: to bring to pass : carry out 2: PUT -
....


Yet, the best answer. Hands down. 
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: kawa ltd 440 info wanted
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 6 Nov 92 07:55:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> feet. Anyway - what's it like driving one of these? Any typical
-> ltd440 problems to look out for? Any info would be welcome.

 I put 20,000 miles on the KZ400 when I was in high school.  The bike
thought it had it easy whenever I let the tach drop below redline.

 I went through four chains, two sets of tires, a set of mufflers
(rotted off), and two air filters.  When I sold it, it had a small oil
leak on the left side where the head met the barrels, but was still
going strong.
From: bender@oobleck (Duke of Canterbury)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Uneven pavement
Date: 7 Nov 92 03:55:31 GMT
Reply-To: bender@oobleck.eng.sun.com
Organization: SPARK's R US
NNTP-Posting-Host: oobleck
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

rtaraz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes:
: 
: I was driving on the high way when I reached a section under
: construction.  Since two lanes out of three were blocked the police
: opened the shoulder as a lane.  I got on the shoulder.  When I wanted
: to get back on the road, I noticed that the pavement was about 2
: inches below the road (a straight drop) (I was doing about 70).
: I was really afraid of loosing control at that speed.  The steering
: wiggled a little bit but was enought to make heart pump a bit faster.
: 
: My question is:  Is it really dangerous to go over something like that
: at high speeds?

Nope, just grab the front brake lever as hard as you can to scrub off some
speed (remember, the FRONT brake has 70% of the stopping power of the bike).

mike

p.s. and I mean HARD!

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Uneven Front tyre
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 14:21:25 GMT

erika@znext.cts.com (erik astrup) writes:
>joe@rider.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:

>: so your michelin's were underinflated and the ME33's weren't. 

>	*Not*  Sorry, try again oh overinflated one. The tires were kept
>inflated to the recommended pressures in both cases.

"THE" recommended pressure? Who's recommendation? The factory's for the
stock tire, or the tire manufacturer's for their tire on your bike?
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Subject: Re: last night (long)
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 22:06:36 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <cass8806.390.721075966@elan.glassboro.edu>, cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu (KYLE CASSIDY) writes:
|>                 26 IS GOING TO BE A GOOD YEAR: A SCREENPLAY
|> 
|>                             by Kyle Cassidy

|> KYLE: pipes. pipes.
|> 
|> 
|>             [FADE TO BLACK]
|> 

excellent!  more!

axel
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