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From:         Johna Johnson <0004143837@MCIMAIL.COM>
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   To: Corporate Network Managers
   From: Lee Keough, executive editor,
   Data Communications Magazine

   Re: NetWorld panel

   Would any corporate network managers be interested in
   sharing their company's Internet experiences with other
   network managers at the NetWorld trade show in Dallas this
   October 14?

   My name is Lee Keough, and I'm the executive editor at Data
   Communications Magazine. I am chairing a panel on the
   Internet at NetWorld, which is one of the largest networking
   trade and conference exhibitions in the United States.

   I am looking for one or two corporate network managers to
   speak at the conference.  I'd like them to describe how they
   use the Internet, and the benefits they derive from its use.
   Each speaker will be given about 20 minutes for their
   discussion. I would be happy to have someone from government
    or academia speak as well, if their experiences are
   applicable to a broad audience.

   There is no payment involved, but there is a possibility
   that NetWorld will pay for expenses if you make the request
   soon. (Otherwise, the budget for expenses could be
   depleted.)

   If you're interested, or know of someone who might be
   interested, please send e-mail to Lee Keough, c/o Datacomm
   at MCI Mail ID 416-2157, or through the Internet at
   416-2157@mcimail.com. Better yet, call me at (212) 512-4627.

   I would greatly appreciate comments and suggestions on this
   subject. I really could use some help. Thanks!
  /
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From:         Ian Davis aka Feaelin Moilar <IED077S@VMA.SMSU.EDU>
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How do I send mail to Victor Capton who has the fidonet address of: 1:120/120
                 also Robert Numerick fidonet address: 1:120/14
                      Paul Loeber FIDO: 1:120/37
                      Randy Goebel FIDO: 1:120/36
                      Paul Williams FIDO: 1:120/116


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From: tchamov@sunran1.cern.ch (Nikolay Tchamov)
Subject: NEW-Projects 
Keywords: Electronics, Computers, Education, Research, Design
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:23:59 GMT

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                                 July 24th, 1992, CERN
                                 Geneve, Suisse/Switzerland


Dear Sirs,

I didn`t find a news-group(s) dealing with European Projects like
TEMPUS in example, except ESPRIT & EUROCHIP which is not much 
supplied by news and discusions. 

Do such News-groups exist, where someone can get up-to-date information
about European projects in the fields of :

  Electronics & Computers & Education & Research & Design ?

If not, please give a hint how to get Up-to-date E-mail information 
about projects like those handled by Brussels etc. 

It is too bad to get those informations by ordinary mail 
quite late (sometimes about 2 weeks before the time to apply).

Having such networks and losing some chances is too sad fact.

Thank you very much in advance for your help.

Sincerely,

Nick

--------------------------------------------------------- 
  P.S. Please reply either here (in this News-group) or
  directly to my E-mail address:

                    tchamovn@cernvm.cern.ch

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 07:22:07 EDT
From: Peter M. Weiss <PMW1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.infonets
Subject: Re: HL7

In article <9207280157.AA08020@stealth.us.oracle.com>, Larry Rebarchik
<lrebarch@US.ORACLE.COM> says:
>
>A querry from a friend;
>
>"...
>Anybody have info on something called HL7?  A field guy says it is a
>"healthcare industry network protocol standard that is being used by the
>Veterans Administration".

According to the file MEDICAL RSCRS on listserv@templevm
(vm.temple.edu) there is a list called HL-7 at bitnet node VIRGINIA.
This does NOT appear to be Listserv-based.  I am unable to confirm that
the list itself even exists.

I willing to bet that hspnet-l listserv notebook archives at Bitnet node
albnydh2 will contain additional pointers.

(Please direct future list-search requests to new-list@ndsuvm1 aka
vm1.nodak.edu)

/Pete
--
Peter M. Weiss                     | not affiliated with psuvm.psu.edu|psuvm
31 Shields Bldg -- Penn State Univ.| "Connectivity is more than a Connection"
University Park, PA USA 16802-1202 | E. Michael Staman, _The Circuit_, Apr 92
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From: mccarty@netcom.com (Michael K McCarty)
Subject: GENIE connection
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 09:49:29 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: GENIE <-> Internet
Keywords: GENIE Internet

Hi,
  A while back there was talk about a way to send messages back and forth
to GENIE.  Has there been anything further on this.

Mike


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					     mccarty@dhvx20.csudh.edu
"...close the hatch. Careful not to lock it on the way out."
    -Buzz Aldrin :: Apollo 11
From: cudep@warwick.ac.uk (Ian Dickinson)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.infonets
Subject: Re: Bounce (host unknown), what to do? One trick that often works.
Date: 31 Jul 92 09:06:28 GMT
Organization: Team Limpid's Meathead With Aptitude - Kunst und Wahnsinn

In article <9207301029.AA13674@public.BTR.COM> Info-Nets@Think.Com writes:
>> VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU unable to deliver following mail to recipient(s):
>>     <user@CU.WARWICK.AC.UK>
>> 550 Host 'CU.WARWICK.AC.UK' Unknown
>One problem I've found more and more often lately, although I don't
>know if it applies in this case, is that lots of workstations are
>attached to a mailserver host, many only intermittantly connected and
>not at all registered with the nameserver. All mail is forwarded
>automatically if it's addressed to the mailserver, but e-mail & Usenet
>postings have the workstation instead of the mailserver in their return
>address (From: field) so automatic reply bounces due to unknown host.

All machines are registered, and all machine generate mail from
csv.warwick.ac.uk.  I've come across the situation you describe before,
but I think our machine hiding is done properly.  Any intermittantly
connected machine which receives mail should have an MX record pointing
at the mailhost.

>One general trick I've successfully used for discovering the correct
>e-mail address is to drop off the low-order (leftmost) portion of the
>Internet domain-style hostname and try again. So in this case you might
>try user@WARWICK.AC.UK. If you get a bounce no such host, try dropping
>off another part. If you get a bounce from the specified host saying no
>such user, then you have successfully found a working host near the
>recipient and you can send a query to postmaster at that same host
>asking for the correct address to use.

csv.warwick.ac.uk and warwick.ac.uk are effectively the same thing at the
moment.  warwick.ac.uk is specifically there so people can mail
I.Surname@warwick.ac.uk with worrying about another level of subdomain
or what the actual usercode of the person is.

>The general principle here is that if you can reach approximately the
>correct host, you can ask the postmaster there for advice, but if you
>can't reach such a host, you're on your own to guess what to try next.

Trawling the nameservers should at least get you a zone contact from the
SOA record who you could ask.  Is there an DNS lookup service available
via email for those not on the Internet?

Cheers,
-- 
\/ato - Ian Dickinson - NIC handle: ID17                              Yo! Bum 
vato@csv.warwick.ac.uk  ...!mcsun!uknet!warwick!vato                     rush
/I=I/S=Dickinson/OU=CSV/O=Warwick/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/                 the
@c=GB@o=University of Warwick@ou=Computing Services@cn=Ian Dickinson     show
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From:         Eric Theise <5203P@NAVPGS.BITNET>

sub info-nets E.S. Theise
From: cudep@warwick.ac.uk (Ian Dickinson)
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Subject: Re: Host Unknown blues
Date: 29 Jul 92 10:17:28 GMT
Organization: Team Limpid's Meathead With Aptitude - Kunst und Wahnsinn

In article <2A6ED790@pcmail.inre.asu.edu> Info-Nets@Think.Com writes:
>Trying to address the following,
> VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU unable to deliver following mail to recipient(s):
>     <user@CU.WARWICK.AC.UK>
> 550 Host 'CU.WARWICK.AC.UK' Unknown
>I found out from NSLookup that "No 'any' (ANY) records available for
>CU.WARWICK.AC.UK."

cu.warwick.ac.uk changed to csv.warwick.ac.uk about 18 months ago.
There was an overlap period of about a year during which cu.warwick.ac.uk
continued to work.  It was finally removed about 2 or 3 months ago.

>Pray tell, what does that mean?  What do we do now?

That there are no entries for cu.warwick.ac.uk
Use csv.warwick.ac.uk instead.

Cheers,
-- 
\/ato - Ian Dickinson - NIC handle: ID17                              Yo! Bum 
vato@csv.warwick.ac.uk  ...!mcsun!uknet!warwick!vato                     rush
/I=I/S=Dickinson/OU=CSV/O=Warwick/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/                 the
@c=GB@o=University of Warwick@ou=Computing Services@cn=Ian Dickinson     show
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Subject:      Re: Skvorecky article
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              24 Jul 1992 21:07:58 EST from <HAMMERL@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>

I think my friends in Slovakia might have the following response
to the Skvorecky article:  Fine, dump us if we have become a burden,
but don't pretend that you have ever given us a fair share.  In my
9 months working in Slovakia I heard many stories of how Prague
and the Czechlands consistently took the lion's share for themselves.
At the Fakulta where I taught it was said that applications for
Fulbright exchanges would arrive from Prague only a couple days
before the deadline.

I think this is mostly something in the Central European character;
if Slovakia becomes an independent state, I expect to see the same
sort of centralist activity in Bratislava.

David S. Graber
Humanities and Arts Computing Center
DR-10
University of Washington
GRABER@UWAVM.U.WASHINGTON.EDU
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 09:38:00 N
From:         FALK2399@DS0RUS54.BITNET
Subject:      Veritas vincit!

>Subj:  Re: Veritas vincit!
>
>As you know CS was split to two parts after Munchen treaty. S became
>half independent half dependent state. After "viedenska arbitraz"
>(I don't know english equivalent) 1/3 of S became to be hungarian.
>Anyway, hungarian army invaded S. S. was in very bad situation
>(lack of armament,lack of officers, with no alies,...).
>Slovak army pulled out occupants out of S anyway.
.........
>I hope this is the answer to your question.
>
>Respectfuly
>    Marian Kubaska


Could the Slovak army manage just on its own? Or was there any accompanying
diplomatic activity? Father Tiszo's Slovak State and Admiral's Horthy's
Hungary were reliable allies of Hitler's Third Reich in Germany so that
the Hungarian ivasion to Slovakia had probably not made The Big Brother and
Fuhrer Hitler very happy, I should think. After all unless the Slovaks changed
a lot since then my experience from this very list is that they are not
used to keeping quiet when they think to be handled unfair.

Regards,

M. Havranek, Stuttgart, FRG
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:31:11 EDT
From:         Pete Tamas <GNOME@TEMPLEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      E-mail etiquette: don't make my mistake!!!

I recently offended and potentially caused someone unneeded problems
by quoting him without his permission. I quoted a reply made to me
privately.

I am now more aware of the discomfort that can accidently be caused
and I suggest the following course of action: If the e-mail was
sent to you privately, do not quote without permission. I wish I had
thought to do that.-Pete
Pete Tamas, Gnome@TempleVM.bitnet, Temple Univ., Philadelphia, eastern USA
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:20:49 EST
From:         HAMMERL@UCS.INDIANA.EDU
Subject:      Re: Havel

Robert,

	So good to have your input on the list!!

	By the way, did you know that Gabika Franscisiova has been
in Washington, D.C.?  She called me, and I was expecting that she
would write to me, but I haven't heard from her.  My mother tried
several times to call her, just after she had called me--I believe
it was at the end of June--but couldn't reach her.  My aunt did
call her and talk to her, but I haven't heard whether or not Gabika
visited her when she went to New York.

	Her number is

	(703) 533-6983

	I will try to call her this evening, as I think she is leaving
very soon.

BEst wishes,
Louise
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:34:47 EDT
From:         "David E. Sanders (Sandor)" <00030929@YSUB.YSU.EDU>
Subject:      Slovaks/Hungarians

Greetings to all!

The recent discussion about Hungarians in Slovakia, and vice-versa, has
reminded me why I originally subscribed to this list.  The postings sent have
been interesting enough that I nearly forgot.

My father's family came from south-eastern Slovakia, more specifically Kosice,
Dubrava, Presov, Velky-Saris, etc.  I am attempting to find out how to trace
my lost family in Slovakia.  The last contact I know of was in 1961, over 30
years ago.  Also, I want to find out more about my ancestors.

The names involved are Lakatos, Zavatsky, Sandor, Kascak, and Novak, at least.
Two of these names are very very common, Novak and Sandor.  Also, I have some
reason to believe that the Sandor's came originally from further south, from
what is now actually Hungary.

Even though the relatives we were last in contact with were from Kosice, and
were named Sandor, they wrote in Slovak.

Can anyone tell me how to find not only relatives still living in Slovakia,
but also how to trace names to earlier times?  My earliest information is from
1852, when my great-great-grandfather was born in Kosice. I have no information
from earlier than that.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

David Ervin Sanders (but father was born Sandor)
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:08:13 EDT
From:         Henry Kucera <HENRY@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Havel

>Posted on 22 Jul 1992 at 21:14:00 by BrownVM Mailer (103837)
>
Louise Hammer writes:

>Prof. Owen Johnson, in a public lecture at Indiana University this
>past spring, pointed out that Havel had been to Slovakia only three
>times before this year.  Once to go skiing, once as a dissident, and
>the one time as president.  There was much good will toward him in
>SLovakia during and for a short time after the revolution, which was
>then dissipated.

  Perhaps Prof. Johnson may be interested to know that the poll I referred to
(Havel's popularity in Slovakia at 50%) was taken about 2 months ago.
Moreover, if Prof. Johnson means--by "before this year"-- before 1992, then
he is peddling wrong information. (Havel went to Bratislava right after he was
elected, went to Kosice, got eggs thrown at him in Bratislava last October,etc.
etc.)

>Furthermore, it seems appropriate to point out that the actions of the
>SLovaks are frequently attributed to "nationalism" by the Czech papers
>(and their point nof view is echoed in the New York Times and other
>western papers). /of\  It seems more useful to me to view their actions
>as appropriate from an economic point of view.   While the Klaus economic
>program has brought prosperity to the Czech economy, it has been a
>disaster for Slovakia.  One could argue that Czech nationalism prompted
>such an economic program.  However, that would not be my argument.

Can't figure that paragraph out at all. What IS the argument? That Slovakia
should stay socialist to preserve its state-run armaments industry? And keep
selling tanks to Syria which already owes $1 billion for past deliveries?
>
>References to Masaryk are also not convincing in this context.  This
>reminds me of a comment that Kokie Roberts made recently on David
>Brinkley's Sunday morning show when someone referred to the "great
>American hero, Abraham Lincoln."  She said,  "he's not a hero to
>southerners."
>
>Louise Hammer

  Yes, and George Washington was probably not a hero to George III. I just had
a wonderful opportunity last month to be invited to speak briefly at the
dedication of a new plaque at the location in Hodonin where Masaryk
was born. The most touching part of the ceremony was when the Slovak mayor of
a town across the Morava river read the last letter that Stefanik wrote from
Paris before his tragic death. It was addressed to Masaryk, it was full of love
and respect without being obsequious and clearly written by a very thoughtful
man who had great hope for a Czechoslovak future.
  Kokie Roberts with her historical relativism (to the extent that it is
historical at all) belongs exactly where she is: on a television talk show.

Henry Kucera
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 10:32:31 -0400
From:         jchapman@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU
Subject:      Unsubscribing Help!
X-To:         slovak-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu

HELP!

I am going away for 6 months so I need to unsubscribe from the group.
I have tried sending an unsubscribe note to the listserv but that has
not worked.  They keep telling me that this list has no match for my
user id.

Can anyone help or give some advice?

THanks,
	Jason
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:06:20 EST
From:         HAMMERL@UCS.INDIANA.EDU
Subject:      Re: SDL are not communists?

Eugene,

	Thank you for giving your opinion of the article.  It would be
interesting to hear from others on the list as well.

Best wishes,
Louise
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:12:54 EST
From:         HAMMERL@UCS.INDIANA.EDU
Subject:      Re: Havel

I would like to add to the list the fact that Mr. Havel was very late
in realizing that he had a Slovak constituency.

Prof. Owen Johnson, in a public lecture at Indiana University this
past spring, pointed out that Havel had been to Slovakia only three
times before this year.  Once to go skiing, once as a dissident, and
the one time as president.  There was much good will toward him in
SLovakia during and for a short time after the revolution, which was
then dissipated.

Furthermore, it seems appropriate to point out that the actions of the
SLovaks are frequently attributed to "nationalism" by the Czech papers
(and their point nof view is echoed in the New York Times and other
western papers). /of\  It seems more useful to me to view their actions
as appropriate from an economic point of view.   While the Klaus economic
program has brought prosperity to the Czech economy, it has been a
disaster for Slovakia.  One could argue that Czech nationalism prompted
such an economic program.  However, that would not be my argument.

References to Masaryk are also not convincing in this context.  This
reminds me of a comment that Kokie Roberts made recently on David
Brinkley's Sunday morning show when someone referred to the "great
American hero, Abraham Lincoln."  She said,  "he's not a hero to
southerners."

Louise Hammer
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 07:27:00 +0100
From:         KUBASKA@CSBBYS51.BITNET
Subject:      Re: skvorecky

It is easy to fight again communism, when you have western dollar budget
to live from. I dont intend to opose the fact that freedom is worthy
to fight for. I'm one of the students who gave support to idea of democracy
in 1989. I'd like to point out that students had pretty much to loose.
Had the chartist ? I'd like to point out that our parents had good
deal of responsibility to their children so they couln't opose the
regime.
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:25:56 EST
From:         HAMMERL@UCS.INDIANA.EDU
Subject:      Re: Havel

Apologies to the list!!  I intended to send the message directly to
Robert.

Louise Hammer
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 08:04:00 +0100
From:         KUBASKA@CSBBYS51.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Veritas vincit!

Mr.Ceska, the what-would-be-if kind of question is inapropriate in the
context of history events.
Nobody can know, neather do I, what would Slovaks do if they play Czech
part.
I only criticized your lets-fight mood in light of real historical events.
Would you please explain ... what alternative response would you accept...
There was one response of Slovak republic in 39 when Hungaria invaded
Slovakia, for instance. That kind of response I would expect and accept
in 39 and 68.
respectfully
    Marian Kubaska
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