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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.sex,alt.flame
Subject: Re: New Idea
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 00:27:20 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <1992Dec10.183027.1@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz> quirke_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>[Ravings for a rightist/mentally deficient organisation deleted]
>
>BWAHAHHAHAHAHAH.
>
><snort> <giggle> 'scuse me...
>
>Note: This thing was crossposted to alt.sex, a.f.u, and alt.flame
>
>   Methinks we have here another example of someone letting his terminal
>go unattended for an hour or so. A lot more intelligent than the usual
>"I think fags should be shot" post into alt.politics.homosexuality.
>
>   Ignore it, people. If this was for real, it'd be spelled correctly.

No, misspelling is one of the hallmarks of a nut post<tm>.

However if it was for REAL it would ALSO contain LOTS of UNNECESSARILY 
capitalised WORDS.

Derek "I left my terminal unnattended for 3 weeks once but I think I got away 
       with it" Tearne


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From: Jarett.Weintraub%bbs@jptcs.com (Jarett Weintraub)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Mnemonics
Date: 12 Dec 92 23:54:52 GMT
Reply-To: Jarett.Weintraub%bbs@jptcs.com (Jarett Weintraub)
X-Posting-Software: UniBoard 1.10a S/N 202921

Or, Katie, please come out for goodness sake. (no sub-species there)
Jarett "but how does Ted Frank remember anything?" Weintraub
From: Bruce.Tindall@launchpad.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Shakespeare and the KJV (was: Re: Legal language)
Date: 20 Dec 92 18:08:03 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <CINDY.92Dec20150316@solan10.solan.unit.no> cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf) writes:
>Tyndale was put to death for translating the Bible.)

(No, he was actually put to death for misspelling his last name so badly.)
Yale Univ. Press recently published a modern-spelling edition of Tyndale's
New Testament, ISBN 0-300-04419-4.  On just about any page you can see 
phrases that appear word for word in the later KJV.  

Bruce "begat nobody" Tindall
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From: phil@rahul.net (Phil Gustafson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: I Live to FAQ!
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:53:02 GMT
Organization: Famed Parquet Floor

In article <1992Dec10.162940.7754@nntp.nta.no> styri@balder.nta.no (YuNoHoo) writes:
>> F. Person high on drugs stares at sun -- gets partial blindness.
>
>Here's a medical reference.... 

We're missing the UL part of this story.  Nobody questions the fact that
it's possibly to damage one's eyes badly by staring at the sun -- remember
all the cautions last time an eclipse came around?  (Do eclipses get as
far north as Norway? But I digress.)  The legend is that LSD caused some
unspecified number of people to stare at the sun till they went the Helen
Keller route.

This story is the easiest UL to trace that I have come across.  It seems
that in September or October of 1967  _Newsweek_ magazine, and probably
other contemporary sources, cariied the story.  Two or three folks tripped,
stared, and blew their retinas.  A month or so later, the same magazine
printed a retraction:  the whole story had been a fiction put together
by antidrug activists.

Wanna get on the FAQ list?  Half an hour at a microfilm reader to add
specific names and dates to the above would probably do it.

ObUL:  Once some guy drank some Jack Daniels and drove his pickup truck
into a school bus.

Phil

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From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: gators 'r us
Subject: Re: I Live to FAQ!
	<1992Dec17.132438.2743@nntp.nta.no>
	<1992Dec17.223944.7586@netcom.com>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 10:29:08 -0400


>>|> This story is the easiest UL to trace that I have come across.  It seems
>>|> that in September or October of 1967  _Newsweek_ magazine, and probably
>>|> other contemporary sources, cariied the story.  Two or three folks tripped,
>>|> stared, and blew their retinas.  A month or so later, the same magazine
>>|> printed a retraction:  the whole story had been a fiction put together
>>|> by antidrug activists.
time for me to remind you all of the apparently unique variation i heard
from mrs curtin, my 5th grade teacher:  the fluid inside their eyes was
cooked solid, like an egg white.
-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: FBI list...
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:30:34 GMT

scafati@incoming.med.ge.com (Victor-charles Scafati) writes:
: |> 
: |> I remember a few years ago that's not what people said. They said if you 
: |> ordered it from a bookstore then you were put on a list, and they'd send the
: |> list to FBI for them to check you out.  If you passed, you got the book. :)
: |> 

Yep - I debunked it in the original thread. It is false.

Bill "Pyrotechnics R Us" Nelson
From: pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Amusing signs
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:39:33 GMT
Reply-To: pt@geovision.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario

ldoering@engin.umich.edu (Laurence Doering) writes:

>I noticed some weird street signs last summer when I was in Berlin.  
>It was odd, but about one out of every three streets seemed to be
>named "Einbahnstrasse."  I have no idea how Berliners find their
>way around.  Even stranger, the same thing was true in Naples

Funny - Dave Barry made _exactly_ the same observation - in the book "Dave
Barry's Only Travel Guide You'll Ever Need".  I was reading it last night to
prepare for a trip to the UK.

-- 
Paul Tomblin, pt@compass.gvc.com
(This is not an official opinion of GeoVision Systems Inc.)
"I need that trephination stuff like I need another hole in the head"
    --  Kim L. Greer in alt.folklore.urban
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: Freon and Kypton Locks
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 08:00:53 GMT

In <92345.193721MIWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> MIWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
>     It was the freon method however, that forced Krypton to allow their
>insurance policy to be valid everywhere EXCEPT New York City. (It says so
>right on the package.)

We call it "The New York Method" around these parts, because New York
theives refuse to teach it to their colleagues or even practice it
themselves outside of New York.

Warren "nysernet guarantee is valid everywhere but Metropolis" Burstein
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,sci.skeptic
From: comet@us.oracle.com
Subject: Re: Recent "Skeptical Inquirer" Reference Request
Followup-To: poster
Summary: The lights in the sky are stars.  NOT!
Keywords: stars well
Reply-To: comet@us.oracle.com
Organization: Oracle Corporation, USA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:07:56 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Nov30.223841.3330@m.cs.uiuc.edu>, mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu (Robert McGrath) writes:
> In article <30NOV199211560586@csa2.lbl.gov>, sichase@csa2.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE) writes:
> |> In article <1992Nov30.154250.23049@nntp.nta.no>, styri@nta.no writes...
> |> > In the current (or very recent) issue of the _Skeptical Inquirer_,
> |> > Richard Sanderson debunks the old myth that you can see stars in the
> |> > daytime if the observer is at the bottom of a well (or some other
> |> > similar location).  [...]
> |>
> |> Strange.  How do they account for the fact that you can simply go out
> |> and do it?  I personally have sat at the bottom of a vertical shaft
> |> in the middle of the afternoon and seen the darkened sky and some stars.
> |>
> |> -Scott
>
> What shaft?  Where?  What afternoon?  Was the sun out?  And what are
> you seeing?  Are you sure it is stars?
>
> And do you see stars under other unusual conditions?  (Just a
> joke.  :-))
>
The article accounts for this by explaining that there ARE objects that APPEAR
to be stars that can be seen even during the afternoon.  Some of the
"wandering stars" are, at times, more luminous than the stars.  Also mentioned
were the supernovas, some of which have been visible during the daytime.  In
any case, the presence of a long shaft (do you really have to add "vertical"?)
is NOT required.

The reason why stars aren't visible in the day time isn't because the Sun is
brighter...  in fact, *mrmble-gumph's* paradox uses the fact that all stars
are equally bright looking and that the night sky isn't as bright as day to
prove that the Universe is expanding.  This is comparing brightness per
cross-sectional area (or something like this); the Sun has a big area because
it's considerably closer to us than the other stars (ignore that stars are
different sizes; I know that and you know that, but this isn'r relevant, is it?)

The reason stars aren't visible during the day is the same reason the sky is
blue; the light from the sun is scattered by the air molecules, and so the
stray light covers up the other star's light.  At high altitudes, the other
stars DO become visible, true, but this does NOT rely on any effect of a
shaft.

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1> If you are an interesting person, then you will not respond by e-mail, AND
   if you are an uninteresting person, then you will respond by posting flamage.
2> In this pair of statements, at least one is false.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: oberle@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Larry Oberle)
Subject: snuff-like rape video
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 17 Dec 1992 08:54 EST  



From the Cleveland (Ohio) Plain Dealer sports page -- (Dec. 17, 1992)

From Wire Reports (caps mine)

Former Cincinnati cornerback Lewis Billups was arrested in Sanford, Fla. 
after allegedly raping a woman, videotaping the ordeal and threatening to 
show the tape to the victims husband if she didn't pay $20,000, police 
said.  
Billups, 29 and Gregory Calloway, 35, were both charged with sexual battery 
and extortion, said Seminole County spokesman George Proechel.  Both were 
held without bond.
Proechel said the assault can be heard on an AUDIO tape the police have, as 
well as threats warning the woman that the full VIDEOTAPE of the assault 
would be sent to the woman's family if she did not pay.
Proechel said the sherriff's office had received TWO precious reoprts from 
women who said they were drugged and raped by the same two men.  But these 
women had declined to file charges.
Proechel said late last night that after the story appeared on the 11 p.m. 
news, more women called to complain of similar ordeals with the two men.

-- end story


So now we have at least one alleged rape on tape, with the tape used for 
profit (albeit extortion).  Presumably, had they run out of viedotape, they 
would have stopped the rape in order to get more.  

Secondly, how bright are these guys?  'Let's commit a crime, and provide 
the police with very good evidence of our guilt!'

     Larry Oberle  (216) 433-3647     And YES,    NASA Lewis Research Center 
email: oberle@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov      I like     MS 77-1 / 21000 Brookpark Rd.
 or:  oberle@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov    CLEVELAND!   Cleveland, Ohio   44135

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From: styri@hal.nta.no (YuNoHoo)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Why Not?
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:07:22 GMT
Reply-To: styri@nta.no
Organization: Norwegian Telecom Research

In article <1992Dec13.232813.28569@nezsdc.icl.co.nz>, derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
|> In article <#4h2xbc@rpi.edu> kasprj@rpi.edu writes:
|> > I heard that, a few years back, a student at Kyoto University in Japan
|> >came to an exam in traditional garb of the Tokugawa period and, citing 
|> >an old but never-repealed bylaw of the university, asked for warm sake 
|> >and a plate of sashimi to fortify his mind during the test. 
|> > 
|> > The proctor, unsure of what to do, called the professor. The professor
|> >told the proctor to comply with the student's request. While waiting 
|> >for the food to arrive, the professor looked over the student's garb 
|> >and realized that it was the clothing of the son of a _daimyo_. The 
|> >professor inquired if the student was descended from the nobility, and
|> >the student, who was from a family of commoners, realized that he had 
|> >committed a grave social error and promptly committed ritual suicide.
|> > 
|> > Has anyone else heard any college folklore?
|> 
|> This is remarkable.  If I didn't know better I would _swear_ that this post
|> bears the mark of the inevitable Peter van der Linden in troll mode.
|> 
|> In fact I am almost sure he posted an almost identical legend about an 
|> Oxford student, a glass of beer and a sword.  If I remember rightly the 
|> student had forgotten to practice his archery the previous sunday 
|> (a little known - but never repealed English law) and was escorted off the 
|> premises to the local constabulary.  Although he was never charged with the 
|> offence he missed his exam and thus failed his degree.  

No, no, no - it was a student in Glasgow who demanded a pint of beer and
was shown off the premises because he didn't carry his sword.

The motif seems to be: Student claims some right according to some ancient
regulation, university gets back by using another ancient regulation.

A similar story is about this guy in Edinburgh, Scotland, who was found
guilty of some offense. He tried to claim his right to fight for his freedom.
(Who's going to tell the end of this legend?)

---
YuNoHoo  "and Norwegian universities worry about cave-dwelling students?"
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.nude,alt.religion.kibology,alt.slack,alt.conspiracy,alt.d
Subject: Re: Driving without shoes
From: system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 14:57:22 NZST
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10 155, Auckland, New Zealand

maupb@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J L Saunders) writes:

> In article <9aLFVB6w165w@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz> system@codewks.nacjack.gen.n
> 
> %I've been in situations where I've put the brake down as hard as I could
> %[and stopped behind a staionery idiot with less than a foot to spare - quite
> %a relief after 70 km / hr]. Rec.autos.* would know far more than me on this
> %subject. But a) I'm not too worried about skidding if I'm travelling in a
> %straight line, 
> 
> I certainly would be if you were coming towards me!

Well, perhaps unlike you, I make sure I'm in the right [correct] lane.
[This is a teeny bit offensive, because that's how I found your comments.

> 
> % and b) if you're worried about tyres LOCKING, well again as 
> %long as it is slowing me down that's fine too.
> 
> You zoomer! It's not fine to lock the wheels of a car - on any surface other
> than gravel or snow that will give you hardly any deceleration. The correct

well lookee, I did say "as long as it is slowing me down". You are talking
about when it is NOT slowing me down, so your comments are n/a. I carefully
phrased it that way, because I know people have different definitions of
"tyres locking" some of which are fine and some aren't (for braking
purposes).

> procedure to do an emergency stop is to apply pressure initially as in normal
> braking and then increase the pressure until you are braking very hard. If yo
> lock the wheels you should take pressure off the brake pedal and then re-appl
> pressure as before.

Agreed. That is what I would do if I was NOT slowing down.

> %In summary, I want to be in a position where I can apply maximum force to
> %the brakes.
> 
> You ought to have some driving lessons - you might learn something that'll 
> save someone else's life! When you've had the lessons, then you can start
> telling people how to drive.

Well give me a brake. I was not telling people how to drive. I was saying
that wearing shoes means that I can put my foot down hard on the brake
without worrying about it curling up because of some reflex action.

Furthermore, in the incident I cited (which you have failed to quote), I
DID brake as hard as I could, the wheels did NOT lock, and I did stop less
than a metre from this idiot on the wrong side of the road [who was also
stopping thank goodness]. I COORECTLY assess that I did not have time to
apply pressure initially as in normal braking as you suggest. If I had done
as you suggest, I would certainly have crashed. I can cite other accidents
where [quote from police report] "the driver must have literally stood on
his brakes" for example, immediately.

So what's your problem?


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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: The Mexican Upholstery
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:33:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.141344.803@b8.b8.ingr.com> kamus@lorika.b8.ingr.com writes:
>--- Lori "ted frank went to my high school" Kamus

Before or after they kicked me out for stealing the stairs to the physics
building?

Ted "pluto is closer to the sun than neptune" Frank
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Mnemonics
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:18:56 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

schamber@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Sylvain Chamberland) writes:
: >
: >Only problem is that this is wrong. Pluto is closer to the sun that Neptune.
: 
: You're kidding!!!!!

Nope.

: Where did you get that???

Well, they mention it on the news - once in a great while.  It has been
true for a number of years now, and will continue to be true for another
couple of decades.  The reason for this is due to Pluto's highly eccentric
orbit - the orbit is also highly inclined in relationship to the ecliptic.

: I'm no astronomer, but back in high school, people told me Pluto is the
: 9th planet and was discovered only because of ambiguities in Neptune's
: orbit...

It was the 9th planet discovered. However, it is now the 8th planet out
from the sun.  It was discover by accident, a matter of serindipity. The
calculations used in the search were incorrect.

Bill
From: leb@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (BASEL, LESLIE)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: "In Bed" - The origin of...
Keywords: in bed
Date: 13 Dec 92 02:30:00 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Bz3KHD.4C1@unx.sas.com>, rkw@zuni.unx.sas.com (Randy Whitehead) writes...
> 
>In article <1992Dec11.075404.2356@adobe.com>, cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
>|> In article <1g7jacINN15l@pms706.pms.ford.com> ekimmina@pms001.pms.ford.com (Eric Kimminau) writes:
>|> }Can anyone else think of where they heard this first
>|> } used? Im trying to find out for sure if I am the true
>|> } originator "in bed"...
>|> 
>|> You *must* be joking. I heard that one at least 20 years ago,
>|> although we always used "between the sheets" instead -- slight
>|> variant.
> 
>I first heard this (with the "between the sheets" variation) in the 
>fall of 1979 as a member of the Wake Forest University marching band
>where it was often appended to song titles.
> 
> 
>-- 
>Randy Whitehead         And now, back to your regularly scheduled day...    
>SAS Institute Inc.                     
>rkw@unx.sas.com                        
>                                       
As I mentioned in a previous E-mail response - between the bedsheets was
a popular 'game' at Eastern Montana College in 1967 (sigh, what a fun-loving
group we were)

Rosger Coghlan
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,ba.politics,ca.politics,talk.politics.misc
From: jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll)
Subject: Re: They used to think...
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:00:11 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.172803.15108@julian.uwo.ca> jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.215531.19258@ulysses.att.com> smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec16.161922.5171@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, ashall@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Andrew S Hall) writes:
>>>  I know a real strong candidate for the origin of this belief.
>>> Check out Jean Auel's Clan of the Cave Bear "anthropological"
>>> novels.
>>
>>Nope -- the story long antedates her books.  She just used it.
>
>	Try studies of offshore SE Asian and Polynesian  cultures.
>The  specific   annecdote concerned  islanders 'disproving' the
>sex-pregnancy  link  by pointing   out a pregnant woman  whose
>husband had been away for a few years.
>

	To be more specific, at least two Oceanic cultures, (Tobriand
Islanders and Caroline Island of Yap) do not believe that coitus is
the cause of conception.

							James Nicoll