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From: mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Indie dance thing is happening in London (UK)
Date: 22 Jan 93 09:40:29 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <37400002@otter.hpl.hp.com>, arf@otter.hpl.hp.com (Andrew Farmer) writes:
> In alt.music.alternative, mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk writes:
> 
>> Let's just hope that Michale Stipe goes the same way as Freddie Mercury.Soon.
> 
> 	I thought you were moderately amusing until this point. Things have
>  got pretty sad is the best you can manage is to regurgitate the Manics.
>  The *Manics* for gods sake.
>

I was just making sure you SUCKERS had heard it.  I can think of worse things
to regurgitate.

In front of me, I have this week's music press...

The cover of "Melody Maker" shows Henry Rollins, apparently straining over a
particularly solid dump live onstage.  The man is covered in bad tattoos and is
wearing shorts.  He is American.

The cover of NME shows him out of Faith No More (hey, "I'm Easy"...great
song....Not) biting a cigarette.  He appears to be wearing an Adidas tracksuit.  
He is biting a cigarette.  He is American.

Now, that's a fair-ish cross section of the American alternative scene.  Both
these men are intellectual amoebas.  They are American you see.  And to be a
successful American the prerequisite is that either you are a deranged
psychotic or you have a low IQ.

America is failed Europe.

And I sincerely do hope that Stipe dies soon.

**Lucas**
From: bssbc3gsd@dct.ac.uk (Grant Doig)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Telescopes
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:36:15 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1993Jan26.083119.3720@leland.Stanford.EDU>, tower@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jim Van Houten) writes:
> In article <1993Jan25.074057.28756@epas.toronto.edu> izumi@epas.utoronto.ca (Noriko Izumi) writes:
>>
>>	I also want to get some information about the Telescopes.
>>Although no one on the Net picked up -Telescopes- as the best of '92
>>(as far as I remember), I really like it (especially -you set my soul-!!!).
>>I only have this album and one EP called 'flying'.
>>Does anyone know how their other stuff sound like?
>>How did they sound like before they moved to Creation?
> 
> Actually, I did pick the Telescopes in the best of '92, and their most recent
> album is possibly the best album to listen to when one's mind is altered.  I 
> would not recommend their earlier works, however.  I bought _Taste_ (for $24 on
> import) and was greatly disappointed.  It lacks the polished, swirly sound 
> of their most recent work.  I could only call it abrasive.  With that to go on,
> I refused to shell out the big bucks to buy their pre-Creation releases.  If 
> anyone knows how these are, please post.  One thing you would probably like is
> the Celeste EP.  It is on Creation and is at the same caliber as the album.
> 
> 	Jim
> 
> 
> -- 
>
Pre-creation stuff...


To Kill a Slow Girl Walking. Very good. The obvious roots of the Precious
Little E.P.

Perfect Needle. Good. Similar, but better than most of taste.

7th Sharp Disaster. Ok...but dont shell out big money for it.

Kick The Wall. Never heard it but its supposed to be punky...



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From: vidarh@cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: cocteau twins
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:35:43 GMT
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway


|> Could someone please mail me to tell me what the Cocteaus latest single was.
|> I heard something about "Frosty the Snowman";was that a single recently (i.e.
|> last few months.) ?
|> BTW their last album was "Heaven or ..." wasn't it ?

Frosty The Snowman is not released as a single, it's on the compilation 
CD/magazine Volume Five, released by World's End, UK. They haven't released 
anything since Heaven or Las Vegas and the CD-single box-set.

Bye,
Vidar

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From: wheeler8161@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: songs about trains
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:21:35 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

i've a couple more from Omaha

Rail by the former Pioneer Disaster
Train by Mousetrap
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: orwell@maths.tcd.ie (Brian McGurk)
Subject: cocteau twins
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 11:58:52 GMT

Could someone please mail me to tell me what the Cocteaus latest single was.
I heard something about "Frosty the Snowman";was that a single recently (i.e.
last few months.) ?
BTW their last album was "Heaven or ..." wasn't it ?

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From: yockneyj@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Bleach Boy)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: FORGET THE REST, ONLY SUGAR COUNTS
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:40:17 GMT
Organization: Dept Computer Science, University of Manchester, U.K.

have you heard FAC335 
LAUGH by THE ADVENTURE BABIES?
wipes sugar in the dirt

believe me,i KNOW.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: 002519m@axe.acadiau.ca (KRISTIAN AARON MACCALL)
Subject: Carter USM song...
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:26:37 GMT

That other recent Carter-USM post reminded me.  I want to know where I can 
find the song "Anytime, Anyplace, Anywhere" (hope I have the "any-" words in 
the right order.)  Any albums I've seen in stores up here haven't contained 
it so far...

Thanks!
K
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mag@wam.umd.edu (Michael)
Subject: Re: BR/FIREHOSE/RUSH (?) INFO
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:49:13 GMT

In article <7017.66.uupcb@uttsbbs.uucp> neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black)  writes:
>-> Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
>-> From: acskjc@UMASSD.EDU
>-> Subject: BR/fIREHOSE/Rush (?) info
>-> Message-ID: <C1Ftp5.K2z@umassd.edu>
>-> Reply-To: acskjc@UMASSD.EDU
>-> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:34:16 GMT
>->
>-> Does anyone have any tour info for Bad Religion or fIREHOSE
>-> (especially if they're coming to New England)?
>->
>-> Also, a while back I heard some band doing covers of Rush tunes
>-> (namely "Spirit of Radio").  Can anyone help me w/ this band?
>->
>-> >Kieran
>-> acskjc@umassd.edu
>
>New fIREHOSE album (Mr. Machinery Operator) on Feb 22.
>
>The Rush cover was probably done by Primus.  I think it's on Frizzle Fry
>(but the song isn't called "Spirit of Radio" on the album).
>                                                                                 

     Actually, Primus plays a snippet of the Rush instrumental "YYZ" on
*Frizzle Fry* and then they break into something else...I might be wrong,
but I think it's the first song...since Primus are such big Rush fans (and
get compared to them so much, just because they're a trio with a great bass
player) i'm sure that they've covered Rush songs live, and these covers
are available on bootlegs or imports...of course, it may not be Primus at
all, but if they covered Pink Floyd and Peter Gabriel......
From: plowenstein@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: RE: DIM STARS
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:10:13 GMT
Organization: Clark University

NO , IT IS NOT ROBERT QUINE, IT IS DON FLEMING WHO IS CURRENTLY WITH GUMBALL.
I THINK IS PREVIOUS BAND, DAMN IT I CAN'T THINK OD THE NAME,______MONKEY?
From: relph@net.bio.net (John M. Relph)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: XTC
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:03:23 GMT
Organization: Space CUDets Int'l

In the referenced article, n9110620@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Robert Sutton) writes:
>Was XTC's Waxworks and B's-wax originally supplied as a package or were
>they sold separately?

Originally packaged together, then later sold separately.

	-- John
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From: lindemanbria@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Druids in the Mist?
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:38:25 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Pardon me if this has already been discussed, but does anyone know where I 
might be able to get hold of a Druids recording?  It's been so long since I 
heard their haunting, yet naked, melodies.  E-mail responses appreciated.
				Thanks!
Brian Lindeman						LINDEMANBRIA@bvc.edu
		The aim of my life is to fill up my mind;	
		And when it gets too full, I forget.
		(from a little ditty by Soul Asylum)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: berger@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (David Berger)
Subject: Re: songs about trains...
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:04:34 GMT

pmarin@widget.seas.upenn.edu (Paul S Marin) writes:


>Let's not forget "Driver 8" by R. E. M.

What song could be more appropriate to fit the description "Songs about trains"
than the Spin Doctors Song, "About A Train."


-- 

					David
From: mfaville@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Soundgarden
Date: 28 Jan 93 13:00:07 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <C1FJ9s.Dvr@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, gershbei@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Michael Gershbein) writes:
> 
> Hey.  Does anyone else think that Soundgarden sounds a little too much like
> (ugh) Whitesnake to be fully enjoyed?
> --
Having pondered this point at length, it is with some queasiness that I say ...
yes.  But 'yes' with a big proviso.  Upon first listening to Badmotorfinger
ages ago, I noted a disturbing similarity between *some* of Chris Cornell's
vocals, and those of the dreaded Mr Coverdale.

But any similarity ends there, in a big way.  And I sure as hell wouldn't let
something as infinitessimally insignificant as that get in the way of my
enjoyment.  Don't listen so hard!

> *******************************************************************************
> 
>     Mike Gershbein                   "Do I contradict myself?
>     University of Illinois, Urbana    Very well then I contradict myself
>     Graduate School of Library        (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
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>     gershbei@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu                                   

Marty.

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: tuffyd@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Devin 'Nice Guy' Tuffy)
Subject: Re: big black????
Reply-To: tuffyd@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:57:22 GMT

In article <93020.163530ACPS6969@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>, OLEH <ACPS6969@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> writes:
|> Help!!!
|> Is Big Black the neo-industrial band that has lyrics like:
|>                THERE'S NOTHIN' MUCH TO DO IN THIS TOWN!
|>                THERE'S NOTHIN' MUCH TO DO IN THIS TOWN!
|>                PUT ME ON FIRE!!!!!
|>                   KEROSENE.
|>                PUT ME ON FIRE!!!!
|>                   KEROSENE.
|> If this is the band I heard a couple years at a party I would love to
|> pick up their cd.
|> 
|> 
|> ******* I refrain from signatures********
Yep, that's them...the song is "Kerosene" from the _Atomizer_ LP, recently re-released as _The Rich Man's 8-track Tape_
And, BTW, the line is "Never Anything to do in this Town...Lived Here My Whole Life!"
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From: phadrus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Neil A Evans)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Negativland Tshirts:whatis@gnu.ai.mit.edu.UUCP
Keywords: U2 Negativland Shirts
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:35:47 GMT
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA

Howdy,
  I've been trying to send a message to whoever posted about the U2 Negativland t-shirts but the mail keeps getting returned to me...if whoever made the original post (from address "whatis@gnu.ai.mit.edu.UUCP") sees this, please email me and tell me how much the shirts are (with shipping) and how to contact you.   Thanks,


             Neil
From: climiepd@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Delbert ( Peter Climie ))
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Indie dance thing is happening in London (UK)
Date: 28 Jan 93 12:35:58 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

<DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>In article <C1IHrp.2Cv@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>, climiepd@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Delbert (
>Peter Climie )) says:
>>>homey.  I'm a useless slut and I just suck.
>>
>>You agree with the sentiments! What you want to get publicity too. Obviously
>>Nicky doesn't want MS to die of aids, he wants to shock. Don't you realise
>>what this marvelous band is about. You sheep.
>>
>>>Look out, kids!  NUCLEAR WAR!!
>>
>>Cool man!
>>>**Lucas**
>>DELBERT. Cooler than Lucas!

>  You guys are all so cool.  Can I be just like you?

What did I do to deserve your scorching flame??? I was just taking the piss
out of him too!!! Som e folk are too keen to harass anyone. Get a life.
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From: jorgrb@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: club info needed, please help.
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:28:32 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

i need some info!


in a few weeks me and a few friends of mine would like to go
to some alternative/punk/gothic/industrial clubs.  we will 
need info on where they are located. the states we are visiting will be;
                            indiana- indianapolis
                (southern) kentucky- (anywhere)
                          tennessee- (any where)
                       pennsulvania- pittsburg
                               ohio- cleveland
                          
               we might even get up to canada, so if you have any info
               on canadian clubs, let me know.

if you would be able to tell me where the club is located, how much
the cover/age limit to get in is, what kind of club sceene is it,
also any alternative radio stations to listen to on the way.
i know these aren't real BIG cities for this type of sceene, but any
help would be appreciated

thank you in advance!
D.K.
From: markg@optimla.aimla.com (Mark Greene)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: The Wedding Present - Interesting Facts
Keywords: weddoes
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:29:47 GMT
Organization: Philips Interactive Media of America

Jonathan Gregg <se2jg@de-montfort.ac.uk> writes:

A few wedding present facts you might or might not be aware of:

Last year they planned to release 12 7" singles every month. They
did and every one went into the TOP 40 in the U.K. This set
a record (beating Elvis Presley) and are now in the Guiness
book of records.

On a slightly different note, a bit of gossip from the music
papers over here:

Pop Will Eat Itself as you might or might not be aware have been 
dropped by RCA. The Weddoes ( as we like to call them ) are also
on the same label and the guy who signed them both up is leaving
RCA to set up his own record label...........Apparently he will
probably get both of them to sign to his new label and Hey Presto 
instant success.

J0N ( at DeMontfort University, with nothing better to do in between
      Lectures ).

> Jonathan, thanks for the tidbits!
> Could you send me a track listing of Hit Parade II?


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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: grove@uk.tele.nokia.fi (Paddy Grove)
Subject: FNM "Everything's Ruined"
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications, Transmission Product Development,
	Cambridge, UK
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:25:15 GMT

Hi all,

    A quickie : I may be being stupid, but can anyone tell me what Faith No
More's "Everything's Ruined" is about. I've got the lyric sheet, but haven't
managed to work out what it's on about.

    Paddy
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From: relph@net.bio.net (John M. Relph)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Velocity Girl Discography
Date: 28 Jan 93 01:00:47 GMT
Organization: Space CUDets Int'l

So is anybody actually compiling all this Velocity Girl information
into a discography?  It should be sent to the discography archives if
so!

	-- John
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From: berger@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (David Berger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: straightedge
Date: 22 Jan 93 03:20:28 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University

tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY) writes:

>it's nothing like college. A lot of my friends went by the "Straight for life"
>motto, but alas, they're all drunks now that they're here at school). Most 
>SE followers interpret "the rules" (for lack of a better word) diferently. 
>Not too many take the "no sex" clause to heart, but drugs and alcohol are
>generally ruled out. Lately, a lot of SE bands are starting to mix the Hari
>Krishna beliefs into their music (no shit). If this is your thing, check out
>Shelter, Ray of Youth of Today's current band. Personally, I think mixing
>religion with anything is stupid, but oh well. I have a headache now so I'll
>leave it at that.

>TOMASS
Alot of what Tomass said is right, I guess (well, half right) as a 
junior in college (a college with moderate to heavy drug use) I still
hold to my "straight edge" beliefs.  The funny thing is, that since I
lived in DC and was unaware of the NYC scene I missed the whole unity 
thing...so straight edge was simply being positive in behavior et al, 
aside from no drugs (alcohol and smoking incl.) everything else is
fairly up to the individual.  SE doesn't seem to be trendy any more, 
so many of the SE bands are dead and there aren't many 15 year old
kids into (which is fine) this...but I digress.  Anyway, I know 
quite a few "straight-edge" people here (in Boston) and at home (DC)  
the fact is its no longer the alternative trend, so who ever chooses to
be this way simply does so...you'd be surprised. 
    (Sorry for the preachy lesson)

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					David
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: berntr@ifi.uio.no (Bernt Olav Rostad)
Subject: Re: U2's Sunday Bloody Sunday
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 13:28:07 GMT
Originator: berntr@sognsvann.ifi.uio.no



In article <1993Jan27.224145.2161@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu>, chang@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
> Hey, does anyone know what the "Sunday Bloody Sunday" event of U2's 
> song was?  Please email replies...I don't always read this group.  
> Thanks.
> 
> ted


  BBC has just made a documentary about the event.
As I recall it the british army killed 18 (I'm
uncertain about the figure) persons
in Londonderry, Ulster, one Sunday in 1972.

  It all started with a huge crowd demonstrating against
the british government. As the army tried to arrest
the "Leaders of the protest" chaos broke loose. The soldiers
fired their guns in all directions and hit many people.
Many of the wounded wasn't even in the demonstration.
A sergeant was interviewed for the documentary, he said the 
action was totaly out of control. He regret the event.

  This episode made many young people in Northern Ireland 
supporters of the IRA. And 20 years later people still talk
about the "Bloody Sunday".




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From: Sheri Mathos <Sheri_Mathos@med.umich.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Advice on Ministry
Date: 28 Jan 1993 19:37:28 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Distribution: world
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X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1

In article <hamster.02o3@xymox.apana.org.au> Anthony Horan,
hamster@xymox.apana.org.au writes:
>> >I want to buy a ministry album cause what I have heard of theirs I
like.
>> >What would be a good album to start off with?
>>
>>    I'd say start off with 'land of rape and honey'.  'the mind is a
>> terrible thing to taste' is good, but it gets slightly repetative at
times.
>
>For a real shock, start off with their 1983 Arista album, "With
Sympathy"!


OH YUK!!  That was my only taste of them when I saw them this past
November with
 Sepultura and Helmut.  
Boy was I in for a suprise.  A pleasant one, but a suprise none the less!!
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver)
Subject: Re: seaweed, well worth it.
Organization: Tellabs, Lisle,IL
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:23:27 GMT

In article <1jmm7kINNcsp@bigboote.WPI.EDU> timothy@wpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy J Mentzer) writes:
>
> Well they are from a Seattle suburb I guess which most people still call
> Seattle.  There newest album, Weak, is incredible.  They also have a new
> 7" out, but I haven't heard it yet.  I also hear they put on a great live
> show  and are very friendly because they talked to a friend of mine in Chicago
> for 15 min. after the show.
>
> tim

I think they said they were from Tacoma, Washington, when they came to
Chicago.

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