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From: JMPIERCE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU (JIM PIERCE)
Subject: no kill file here re: The Nightstalker makes an observation
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:31:05 GMT


 Since my Bitnet account has no kill file capability, could all
of you take this somewhere else ? Please ? Thank you !



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From: pierce@spop.navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce)
Subject: Re: A return
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-8235]: spop.navo.navy.mil
Reply-To: pierce@navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce)
Organization: POPS Operations I/O Operator
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 16:03:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.095237.21095@cco.caltech.edu>, lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals) writes:
|> In article <Bry33q.7Lu@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
|> (Barbara Trumpinski) writes: 
|> >and i tend toward cold hands and COLD feet...(my feet have ALMOST 
|> >gotten me kicked out of bed on occasion...that's why i sleep in sox 
|> >(like the fox) in winter." 
|> 
|> StM (rather predictably) says, "You know, that's one of the symptoms....
|> I know, I know, this gets rather tiresome.  But, Barbara, have you ever asked a
|> doctor about this?  I STILL (after having been diagnosed [and treated] as a
|> diabetic) don't know why my temperature tends to average about 2 degrees
|> Fahrenheit below average).

    How much beef do you eat ? When I became a vegetarian my body tempersture
   dropped to 95 F. It has since gone back up to 97 F. { Over a period of
   10 years it went back up, not right away. It went down to 96 F after one
   month of no beef. And for those who have forgotten, its allergies I face. }
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Subject: Re: The New Kid
From: jwwalden@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (P'relan)
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:53:17 -0500
Organization: Dept. of Physics

In article <1992Jul24.185153.7762@cco.caltech.edu>, lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals) writes:
> In article <bsackste.61.711981150@AFIT.AF.MIL>, bsackste@AFIT.AF.MIL (Bernadette M. Sacksteder) writes:
>>The New Kid grins. "Do you have a song titled Hail to Hamilton or something? 
>>You should! Gosh, just think of it: x number of Hamiltonians massed on the 
>>town square, roaring out Hail Hamilton in mighty four part harmony! (x=the 
>>number of people currently residing within the city limits plus as many more 
>>who really don't have anything else to do and might as well come along). We 
>>don't have anything like that in my town. What could we sing anyway? Um... 
>>Down With Dayton? Dayton Destroys? Even if we are the "birthplace of 
>>aviation" we don't really have any decent town songs (sigh). I think I'll 
>>have to change that. Anyone any good at designing songs? I could use some 
>>help here."
> 
> How 'bout the theme from _Howard_the_Duck_?  Didn't he end up in Dayton in the
> movie?

I don't know about that one though I do wonder sometimes about the impressions
you get of Ohio from movies.  Let's see...we have transsexual aliens (The Rocky
Horror Picture Show is set in Denton, OH - look closely and the newspaper
Janet's holding over her head is a Cleveland Plain Dealer)...and there's always
the impressions you get from _Heathers_ ("Mineral water? They were fags!")...
Unfortunately it tends to be somewhat more normal in RL...
 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 P'relan (and Birith)      	   ``Time stand still -
 jwwalden@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu      I'm not looking back -
  or jwwalden@miavx1.bitnet	     But I want to look around me now.'' - RUSH
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From: salford@orion.lrmsc.loral.com (Stephanie Alford 5850)
Subject: Re: More of Nathan being Depressed. (feel free to skip this)
Organization: Loral Rolm Mil-Spec Computers
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 05:05:23 GMT

In article <BrtFyA.LDz@news.cso.uiuc.edu> trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski) writes:
>
>>  Hugs to SEA, Shonias, DM, NickD, Niles, kitten, and to the
>>  Didi-Sprite, because Hugs can't be given, only borrowed.
>>  Sooner or later they return when you need them.
>
>"hugs back...to nathan and marie...and everyone else...
>
>kitten is a hug junkie....
SEA joins the hug fest..."Kitten, I hope that's one addiction we never recover
from!"


Stephanie Alford			.sig line on vacation,
salford@monolith.lrmsc.loral.com  	maybe if you ask nicely
or				 	it'll send you a postcard
lunisea@netcom.com

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From: mbr2@quads.uchicago.edu (Curious Of All Natures)
Subject: religion for which others are waiting
Reply-To: mbr2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Universtiy of Chicago
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 02:42:09 GMT

An excellent thought across which I just ran:

Others are waiting for a religious answer which does not destroy
reason but points to the depth of reason; which does not teach the
supernatural, but points to the mystery in the ground of the natural,
which denies that God is a being and speaks of Him as the ground and
depth of being and meaning, which knows about the significance of
symbols in myth and cult, but resists the distortion of symbols into
statements of fact which necessarily conflict with scientific
knowledge.                                              -Paul Tillich


-Matt Ryan, compiling his quote collection again,
mb-ryan@uchicago.edu                Curious Of All Natures
==================================  ====================================
If I'm dreaming, never let me wake. You'll never see the end of the road
If I'm awake, never let me sleep.   When you're traveling with me.
               -old chinese fellow                        -Crowded House     
==================================  ====================================
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Anti-freeze
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:10:58 GMT
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera

In article <1992Jul23.015214.10932@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, ablanch@physics.su.OZ.AU (Shonias) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.165852.1005@cs.yale.edu> lower-tony@CS.YALE.EDU (Tony Lower) writes:
>>   "Look, DM, the simple fact is, that because of internal
>>heating, and salt content in the blood, human beings do
>>not freeze until below -50 C.  Anything above that is due
>>to local Gulf Stream conditions, and favorable actions of
>>the weather gods.  You just have an environmental disposition
>>towards displeasure when the temperature falls below your
>>body temp.  In other words, you're a Temperature-Wimp!"
>
>"Count me in with the Temperature-Wimps! Anything below 18 deg
>C is cold, below 16 is freezing, and below 10 is absolutely obscene.
>-50 is not real. -50 is specifically designed for lunatics who
>think that cold is a good idea!"

Hmm.  Let's see now.  18 degrees C is about 64 degrees F, 16 degrees C is about
61 degrees F, 10 degrees C is about 50 degrees F, and -50 degrees C is about
-58 degrees F.  OK, now I've got it in units I can deal with. My office is at
60 degrees F with relative humidity at 97% (I'll have to move the
thermometer/hygrometer back into the computer room someday), I'm in a
short-sleeved shirt, and perfectly comfortable (well, at least I'm not sweating
very much).  Now, back when I lived in Baltimore, winter temperatures often got
below 0 degrees F, with the wind chill somewhere around -40 degrees (take your
pick of Celcius or Fahrenheit; it doesn't matter which).  I lived a bit over a
mile from my school and walked to and from school dressed in a short-sleeved
shirt and slacks (not that I didn't have a jacket; I just saved it for when it
got cold).  I don't think I ever went out without my jacket when the wind chill
was below about -45 degrees F, but I have to agree with Manx that if you're
moving around, you're not likely to freeze until the temperature gets down to
about -50 degrees C.  You will be pretty uncomfortable before it gets that low,
though.
From: seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Anti-Freeze/Much too Cold!Sundog, who has been busy wrestling with concepts of creation
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:59:15 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: seawasp@pmax1.cis.pitt.edu

In article <1992Jul27.225302.21024@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> rkoch@lonestar.utsa.edu (Ruth M. Koch) writes:
>In article <3681@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) writes:
> Excuse me, but I find it hot enough here in Texas, thank you.
> I don't need people wanting to make the world hotter.  :-)

	Hey, with luck the weather patterns would change, sea level
rise, and Texas would become a new rainforest.

>>	"It's EASY to cool off, but once you get chilled it takes HOURS
>>to warm back up."

>   I disagree.  You can only take off so much clothing to get
>   cool.  You can always put on more to get warm.

	"Uh-HUH. Putting on clothes once you are already cold will
do no good for a LONG period of time unless you're literally burying
yourself in them -- it generally takes me a half-hour after being chilled
before I stop feeling like an ice cube, and four to six hours for the
feeling of being chilled and exhausted to go away.
	"On the other hand, if I'm overheated, three minutes under a cold
shower takes care of the problem. Zap.
	"And to answer the obvious question, no, the equivalent trick of
hot baths or showers isn't nearly as effective overall; the temperature
differential and evaporative cooling allows the air to start the chilling
process much more quickly once you step out."

                                 Sea Wasp
                                   /^\
                                   ;;;
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: The brumby is foaling better
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 02:14:06 GMT


>   The brumby blinks innocently.

>   "You remind me that I've been trying to persuade Robyn to put me out to
>stud. Unfortunately she says that now she has one foal out of me she might
>as well get me gelded so that I'm easier to handle."

>   "Y I keep this up I don't know. It's the X-citement I guess. I'm normally
>a genital creature, I wouldn't act this way in pubic. But this sort of thing
>testes my control. I should withdraw now but I'll stick it out for a bit
>longer."


"you aussies know the breast buns...i mean puns."  kitten is at a lust
for a reply....

--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson

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From: dgil@ipsaint.ipsa.reuter.com (Gillett, David)
Subject: Re: Why I react the way I do to some...
Reply-To: dgil@ipsaint.ipsa.reuter.com (Gillett, David)
Organization: Reuters APL Software Division
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 10:18:47 GMT


-----------Message forwarded from IPSA Mailbox-------------
no. 6413650 filed 22.35.20  mon 20 jul 1992
from dgil
to   locun
subj Re: Why I react the way I do to some...
ref  6410003

StM:
  In order to doubt that the Bible is accurate, you need only assume that:
        1)  Someone made a mistake.

moi:
  The Bible contradicts itself on a number of points.  It is both possible and
  even fairly reasonable to read the Bible for philosophical, moral, and
  spiritual guidance, while looking elsewhere for information about history,
  biology, and cosmology.
    All that is necessary, in order to doubt that the 'facts' in the Bible are
  reliable -- in that they refer to the world in which we actually live -- is
  to attempt to regard *all* of it, simultaneously, as accurate.
    This is clearest when one examines passages in which the Bible refers to
  itself, or to parts of itself.  Thomas Paine, in _Age of Reason_, amply
  demonstrated that the Bible is contradictory in what it says about itself,
  and so to take it as literally true on any other subject of fact and
  observation is clearly dubious.
                                      Mentor
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Subject: Re: Anti-Freeze/Much too Cold!
From: jwwalden@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (P'relan)
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:57:34 -0500
Organization: Dept. of Physics

In article <1992Jul24.215825.15525@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>, aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey) writes:
> Alfvaen listens with a fair amount of disbelief to Sundog's post.  (Okay, reads
> it, whatever.)  He checks the email address again, and the sig.  No, Miami for
> sure.  He then goes up to Sundog and says, "So what are you doing in Florida?
> And where do you get your extensive knowledge of subzero temperatures?
> 
> "Obviously you're more fit to be a Canadian than DM is, the wimp who can't
> handle 10 degrees Celsius..."

P'relan laughs and shakes his head.  "No, Miami's in Ohio!  The Miami Indians
originally lived in the Miami Valley of southwestern Ohio and ended up in
Florida - I believed they were forced there by the U.S. government."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 P'relan (and Birith)      	   ``Time stand still -
 jwwalden@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu      I'm not looking back -
  or jwwalden@miavx1.bitnet	     But I want to look around me now.'' - RUSH
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From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: Re: The Golden Gryphon Speaks
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:43:34 GMT

rcb33483@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ArchTeryx) writes:

>gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon) writes:

>to the point where he begins to shuffle his hindpaws in discomfort, then
>suddenly seems to snap out of it.  "You know you just described the last couple
>of weeks for me, almost exactly?  I, too, have been lurking for a long while,
>and for very similar reasons.  My life in the past several days got very, very
>complicated...and started to fall apart an at incredible pace.  I shant bore
>you with the details, much of it is VR, and some is RL as well...however, the
>important thing is that I have, as best I could, managed to repair the damage
>for the most part, and pick myself up by the bootstraps."

"To say that 'I know what you're going through' would be an understatement."

>ArchTeryx then stands and gives the big gryphon a very tight hug, lasting a 
>long time.  He doesn't do what is typical for his kind, rub up and down as he
>hugs...just holds the gryphon for a while.

The Golden Gryphon silently returns the fierce hug.  Just knowing you're not
the only one going through something makes the whole thing less intense.

>Then he reluctantly lets go.  "Maybe you and I have alot more in common then 
>we think, big fella.  I'm very happy to see you back...I've missed you."

"Glad to be back.  I know I'll have to lurk every so often because of work and 
home, but I'll still be here."

>ArchTeryx sits down next to the gryphon, laying his head against his furry
>flank, and sighing quietly, musing to himself.

"Rest easy my friend."

-- 
The Golden Gryphon 				gryphon@openage.COM
Solve a man's problem and he has 1 less.        No incumbents in 92.
Teach a man to think, and all his problems are less.
Openage - The Premier SCO UNIX integrator in the Washington D.C. area
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From: pope@physics.su.OZ.AU (The Nightstalker)
Subject: Nightstalker and Shonias about to go Def
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 07:15:44 GMT

"Shonias and I are about to go see Def Leppard tonight.  We have 
front row seats, so I think that we shall be Def by the end of
the evening.  It is just as well that you don't need to be able
to hear to read News."

The Nightstalker reclines in the hot tub and thinks.....

"Perhaps I should invest in some cotton wool."


--
The Nightstalker.....




      "To sleep; perchance to dream"
                        --Hamlet

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From: ajm@wag.caltech.edu (Abner J. Mintz)
Subject: Re: Snow FantasyAnd now, back to the show:
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:18:26 GMT

>StM adds, "If the slope's worth skiing, it's worth sledding (unless the owners
>or the slope prohibit sledding :-(.  The only time in my life I ever seriously
>injured myself was when I was sledding.  That big chunk of concrete looked like
>it was just more snow :-(.  Then, after I'd broken my collar bone on it, my 
>!#@$$^%#$% sister had to tell my parents I was hurt :-(!  That was the only
>time in my life I got mad at her for being a tattle-tale!  I think my anger at
>my sister may have had some influence on my doctor's decision to use a plaster
>cast instead of the normal elastic bandage for a broken collar bone :-)

I broke my arm playing soccer many years ago ... when I got home, my little
brother was all excited.  "Oh, neat!  Can I have one too?"

Believe me, I was tempted ...

=8)
From: eesshlgb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (S H L G Bisson)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Climbing out the pit
Date: 31 Jul 92 11:51:51 GMT
Organization: School of Electrical Engineering, University of Bath, UK


The Place is its usual Friday self, bustling with patrons from around the
world. In the noise and rush a cartoon mouse moves in isolation. Ignatz sits
up at the bar, and orders a Calvados from Mike.

He turns and addresses the bar in general.

"I just wanted to say thank you to few people. To Didi, to Nicki, to Merrigold,
and to Steve Glover.

"The last couple of months haven't been too good to me. I've been living 
through the end of what was once a major part of my life, and these people
have been there to listen to me as I've been trying to sort out my life.

"The end of a long term relationship is never easy, and I'm glad that the
Place has given me good friends who've been (perhaps unknowing) a great
help.

"So now, the future! It's scary going on alone after so long (but I'm not
really alone - not as long as I've got friends). That's a lesson I've learnt
here. I'm usually the sort who bottles stuff up inside, you know, 'It's my
problem, so I'll solve it'. Not a very sensible mindset, really. Certainly
one I've had to give up (or at least, try to give up) in the last few weeks.

"Onwards, then..."

A lopsided smile, a draining of the glass, and an underarm toss towards the
fireplace. A flash, as the remaining brandy ignites, a crash, a shower of
burning glass.

"To friends, to Callahan's, to a different tomorrow to explore!"

The cartoon mouse smiles properly at last, and wanders off to give Didi, Merri,
Nicki and Steve the hugs they deserve.

--=-
Ignatz Mouse/Simon Bisson...uh oh, it's a sf bookshop, and it's gaining on me..
-=--
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Subject: Cold and Stuff Re: Snow Fantasy
From: <JW83HISW@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 27 Jul 1992 15:58:44 EDT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

Sundog says:"Wow!  I'm glad ya'll enjoyed that.  Now, let me answer a
a few posts here.  I don't have access on the weekends, so I'm
a few days behind.
     To Danger Mouse: Cool!  That's what the *Snow Fantasy* was
meant to do - ether remind those who've skied before what it is
like, or let others who haven't feel what it is like.  Hope you
get the chance to ski real soon.
     To Speaker to Minerals: This was just to let the ones who
don't like the cold know what they are missing.  Yes the cold is
good for many things.  I love taking walks on nights when there
is a good wind blowing during the winter.  Exhilirating!
      To P'relan(and Birith): No, the Miami tribe wasen't sent to
Florida.  They were sent west, to Oklahoma, where the tribe still
is centered.  The legend has it that the guy who went to Florida
to establish the Univ. of Miami was staying in Hamilton and looked
out at the Little Miami River and decided that Miami was a good,
exotic name for a school in Florida.
     And, finally, on the body temperature thing:  I'm not cold-
blooded myself.  In fact, I'm rather warm-blooded.  My fiance' tells
me I'm a perfect water-bottle because I'm always warm.  The heat
always affects me more, too, so I much prefer the winter when it
is cooler.
     Go Snow!
                                           Sundog
=========================================================================
Universal Citizen.  Ultra Knight.  Snow Master.  Bladesman.  Bodybuilder.
=========================================================================
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From: dgil@IPSAINT.IPSA.REUTER.COM (Gillett, David)
Subject: Re: Why I react the way I do to some...
Reply-To: dgil@IPSAINT.IPSA.REUTER.COM (Gillett, David)
Organization: Reuters APL Software Division
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:25:34 GMT


-----------Message forwarded from IPSA Mailbox-------------
no. 6424137 filed 23.24.00  thu 23 jul 1992
from dgil
to   locun
subj Re: Why I react the way I do to some...
ref  6410833

Pizza Boy (revising StM):
  1) Someone made a mistake;

moi:
  I see people make mistakes all of the time; I even do it myself.  It would be
  a far greater leap of faith, for me, to believe that *no* mistakes were made
  in the recording, transcription, translation, printing, and interpretation
  of the Bible.

PB:
  2) The evidence of our eyes, properly explained by the Bible, is a sham;

moi:
  What about the evidence of our eyes which is not "properly explained" by the
  Bible?  Or do I misunderatnd what you're trying to say here?

PB:
  3) Millenia of religious experts, despite in-depth study and analysis, have
     somehow been wrong all this time.  Even Jesus must have blown it.

moi:
  Bzzzttt!!!  Little or none of the New Testament was written while Jesus was
  alive, or even by first-hand witnesses.  And none of it was written in
  English.  The particular couple of variant compilations which are known today
  as versions of "The Bible" are significantly less than two millenia old,
  although some of the compiled material claims(!) to date back to at least
  Abraham.  [Thomas Paine points out a number of references which call this
  claim into question.]
    And those religious experts seem to have had a remarkable amount of trouble
  agreeing on the results of their study and analysis, flaming each other both
  in print and, occasionally, literally.
    If you want to look at scriptures which have been preserved and studied for
  multiple millenia, try the Vedic scriptures of India.  By golly, those
  religious experts -- and there really are millenia of them -- seem to
  disagree as often as (but not, I think, oftener than) Christian religious
  experts....

                                      Mentor the Sage
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