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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Deep beliefs
Date: 24 Dec 1992 05:48:36 GMT
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In a previous article, kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey) says:

>>Ditto.  
>
>Aw, Ruth, c'mon...I was hoping for a more verbose response than THAT from
>you, after admiring your posts so since my return...::snif::

And here some wordslers have been telling me to shut up.<grin>  Can't please
everyone, Aaron.

>Happy Xmas,
>
And may all your Xs be shares of Spike Lee's profits.

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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: inventing a label
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On Wed, 30 Dec 1992 samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU wrote:

> This becomes wearying after a while.

Tushar, gaze into your own mirror for a bit...


-abh
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From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: John's History Question
              3 Jan 1993 13:19:38 +1000 from <LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU>

>I love living dangerously! :-) I can't think of any games that don't benefit
>from having the rules bent a little... do you? I play this way with my family
>too.... feigning deafness to incorrect answers to the easiest of questions.

  You're the boss, Carolyn!  "All decisions of the judges are final."

  I agree with you in a general way about bending the rules.  However, I
  can think of a game where it would make a big difference:  tomorrow's
  roundball matchup between Indiana and Kentucky.  Who will give me UKy
  and 5 points?

  brad
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Date:         Sun, 27 Dec 1992 17:53:36 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: attractiveness and personality
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              27 Dec 1992 18:46:23 CST from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

On Sun, 27 Dec 1992 18:46:23 CST Natalie Maynor said:
>> words we have NOT been attractive people....we also lack traditionnally
>> 'attractive' features,e tc.....anyhow....the point is that attractive doesn't
>Huh??  I'm glad that many WORDS-Lers have met you and Gail so they'll know
>that this description is very much misleading!

thanks, natalie, but i can only callem as i see'em....i don't mean that there
isn't a nice person (at least most of the time) under the fat....and that
i don't have other redeeming qualities.....(hell, even 'chubby bill clinton'
is reported to 'eat pussy like a champ' according to his purported paramour)

and that doesn't make any claims as to my abilities or what's improtant,
either....just that different folks have different ideas of whats
important....and that body isn't too much of it....at least for REAL
people.....   o-)

yeah, lots of folks have our picture, and we'll sendem to anyone else who
wants, and if it ain't in the .gif archive, it ain't my fualt.....cause
i don't have a scanner like some bwps do.....(of course i'm not suffering
with a mac as compensation, etither)

dan the old cyclops
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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In a previous article, torkel@SICS.SE () says:

> >Heroin and cocaine, I think - could also be maryjane.:-)  To "cop" in this
>
>  Only the expression "on the (a) pad" was at issue. Please don't let your
>gleanings mania run away with you.
>
If I don't, can I let you run away with me?<grin>  Thought not.  Besides, 
you're on the wrong side of the ocean....
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From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
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>There is, of course, _A_Clockwork_Orange_. Its Penguin version
>glossary was done against the author's permission.

And all this while I thought he had agreed to that moronic "Cliff
notes on A Clockwork Orange".

>The US publisher didn't think his customers would believe that
>Alex would reform in the the end, so he cut out the last chapter.
>Kubrick read the US version ....  Publishers!!!!

By the way, who gives these imbeciles permission to change the book?
Doesn't the author have some control? With the ending gone, where's
the purge?

tushar
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From:         Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik <amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Susan's Sport/Leisure Question
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Thus endeth the winning streak...

(I don't feel too badly, though, since generally the only sports & leisure
questions I get right are about fencing or pool...)

My official answer:  I don't know.

-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------
"Queens never make bargains."  -- The Red Queen, _Through the Looking Glass_
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From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: More songs about buildings and food
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>[I was stuck at a non-alcoholic New Year's party -- yuck.]
>
>neal    traven@pittvms                  Bitnet          412-624-0097 (office)

Huh. I was at a non-alcoholic New Year's party, and it was great
fun. Bunch of us went out to dinner, and then to a contradance up
in Concord, MA. Some were dressed up, some were dressed "down",
and nobody was drinking anything but lemonade, tea, or coffee.

Happy New Year, everyone. I've been *very* busy for the past week,
ever since I got back from my pre-Xmas visit to Natalie and N'Orleans.
I had my kids visiting, including Evan's lovely girlfriend. Also this
was the week I had to get my quarterly Newsletter into envelopes and
bags to be collected by the mail-people on Monday morning.

Trying to catch up with listmail!  I have tickets for the theatre
for January 6, but if the party is *definite* I will try to talk
my friends into changing the date...

love, judith
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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In a previous article, torkel@SICS.SE () says:

>  Actually, in this respect you're no more of a bore than a lot of

I'm rarely one of those, I hope.  Crazy, yes, thoroughly off the wall
definitely, irritating most certainly, but boring?  Well, maybe....

>wonderfully witty insults. But you do seem to specialize in the use of
>expressions like "<evil smile>" and "<evil grin>", a use that I don't
>find boring but peculiarly irritating after a while. I mean, you might

Awww, poor baby.  They're probably relics of my FIDO and Usenet past.

>themselves.  The impressions I, as a reader, get of your face and your
>intentions and the state of your mind as you write are not determined
>by these silly stage directions.
>
Heavens to murgatroyd!  I am crushed!  I am upset!  I swoon!  I throw
cream pies in your general direction!
<exit, stage left>
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From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (73
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>[ 4 ]  Gleanings (73).  Thank you very much.  This is the last Gleanings
>for the year 1992.  I have really appreciated the instructive and
>entertaining answers to my innocent queries.  I'm really hoping that
>all the <gems> I have collected will be compiled into a dictionary of some
>sort in the future.  But then, how am I supposed to distribute royalty? :-)

It seems reasonable to me that the royalties be used, depending
on how much accrues, either

1) To pay for Akio to come to a WORDS-L clam- or salmon- or
whatever-bake;

2) To pay for a sushi-bake in Japan;

3) To pay for all the WORDies to travel to a sushi-bake in
Japan.

Depending...

>Dewa, yoi otoshi wo omukae kudasai.
>
>                M A Y     T H E    N E W   Y E A R    B E
>
>        A    P E A C E F U L    A N D    P R O S P E R O U S   O N E
>
>                            F O R   Y O U

May I echo your good wishes, for all of us, on- and off-WORDS-L

love, judith
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ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU writes:
> I don't remember not knowing either [about male/female physical
> differences]...but I have 7 siblings, so I think I simply
> discovered by changing diapers.

My father was (and is) a high school biology teacher.  He had
a full-size human female torso model that could be taken apart
to see the various internal parts.

School rooms are often vandalized during summer vacation so
this expensive model spent summers in our home.  I was quite
aware of all of the interesting bits (internal and external)
by the age of 5.

--karsten

(as was any kid who visited me during the summer)
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      a little holiday fun for my DIET and WORDS-L friends....
  this comes courtesy of rustbelt bill in the land of steel....pittsburgh...
          dan in potatoland....home of the cyclops....
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Just looked at the calendar and realized that it is getting
to be about that time.  This year's holiday message comes to
you from SAIL magazine.

There was a young lady who was perplexed.  She had been married
to her husband only a few short months, and the Christmas season
was upon them.  She was not quite sure what to get him for
Christmas.  He had just about everything.  He had a fine yacht
and all the other amenities that accompany such affluence.  She
finally just broke down and asked him what he wanted for Christmas.
He just winked his eye at her and said "Dear...you know that I am
a diehard sailor, and you know the stories about sailors.  There
is only one thing that a sailor can never get enough of...."

On Christmas morning, he awoke and found his bed empty.  Remembering
his remark, he quickly showered, doused himself in Old Spice (what
else?), threw on just a robe, and hurried downstairs in gleeful anticipation
of his Christmas gift.  He heard some rustling coming from the living
room, peeked around the corner and there, laying under the Christmas
tree was.....300 ft. of anchor chain.
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In a previous article, Graham Toal () says:

>        On the Feast of the Blessed Virgin:
>
>Proselytize somewhere else fuckface.
>
Blow it out your Prep-H hole, Graham. 

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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: More peas
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In a previous article, dorisann@TENET.EDU (Doris Smith) says:

>For non-mushy green peas (aka sweet peas and green peas) try Le Seur
>brand, in the silver can.
>
Better still, but the frozen ones.:-)  BirdsEye and Green Giant both
market the tiny peas, but I usually wind up buying the store brand.

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On Tue, 29 Dec 1992 14:26:34 +0100 <torkel@SICS.SE> said:
>  What are the Maryknolls?

   some sort of priests...

>  What delicacy do we find if we open a box of milky ways?

   Milky Way is a brand of candybar.

>  Going by car from Louisiana to New Mexico via Texas, which area would
>  "the Panhandle" refer to?

   the panhandle of texas...that part sticking up on the top....next to
the panhandle of oklahoma.....but well south of the panhandle of nebraska.

>  "Indians in heel-worn cowboy boots": what does "heel-worn" mean here?

   that the heels are worn down at the back (or side if they walk
bowlegged)...the boots are old and well used.

>  "For some reason they make me think of people cornholing each other":
>   people doing what to each other?

    buttfucking

>   "A cop on the pad": a corrupt cop?

   yup.  the pad is a list of the cops and how much to pay them for
whatever protection/looking the other way/etc they are giving.
   the crook has a pad of paper in his pocket, at least int he literal
original sense.

>   "The three moles by the corner of her mouth were the size of BBs":
>   what are BBs?

   a size of shot....like shoots out of a BB gun....an air rifle....

>   "You never could resist mashing on a guy's oysters": what, if anything,
>   does this idiom convey to you?

   his oysters undoubtedly means his balls, testicles....

>   Vick's VapoRub: what revolting product is this?

   a salve to rub on your chest when you have a cold...smells like
menthol or something....makes your skin feel warm and gives off the
smelly vapors that supposedly relieve your cold.

   dan the cyclops of newmexico (well, for seven years)
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Posted on 24 Dec 1992 at 12:29:50 by ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM
>Did I ever tell you I'm my hero? :-)

No, but if I wrote as well as you I would be too.:)

>Thanks, Karen.

You're welcome, Ken.

Karen
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> >who pushes dress racks up 7th Avenue.  Serious question, then: why
> >would a woman be a woman-hater?
>
> I think we're back at last season's question: why would a Jew be a
> Jew-hater? Why would anyone turn against his/her own identity and
> line up with the more powerful oppressors? When I state it that
> way does the question contain implications of an answer (not
> necessarily *the* answer, of course...I don't think there is
> *AN* answer...)?

<Judith, you're making me run my mouth again...:-)>

The glib question is "Why do people become traitors to their own and
their own interests?"  That may not be quite accurate.  Perhaps the
better question is What do people perceive in their own groups that
gets them to identify negatively with what they see as the weaknesses
in those groups, and to react toward what they see as the strengths in
groups allied against them?  There are far too many examples of Jews,
for example, in the extermination camps, who identified with the power
of life and death the Nazis held over them, and who "believed"
(vainly, more often than not) that aping their oppressor would somehow
buy them favors and grant them some of their oppressor's power.  Some
in fact survived, but learned the lessons too well.  A woman I knew in
graduate school was living with a man whose parents, both survivors,
punished him when he was child by beating him on the soles of his feet
with a rubber hose: one of the things that was done to them in the
camp.  How many non-Jewish French and Poles and Norwegians openly
collaborated with the Nazis because they viewed themselves as a
defeated people, and saw the Germans as the "main chance" at
maintaining their comfort and what they interpreted as their
"dignity"?

I suppose there is an answer implicit in how Judith framed the
question: people who identify with what we perceive as Power may seek
to curry it even at the expense of what we call our souls.  But that
opens other questions that I am unprepared to answer or even properly
formulate: power over life and death is not the same thing as the
power of a higher morality that teaches that physical life is not
necessarily the greatest or only good, that some things and people may
be worth dying--maybe even killing--for.

None of which addresses why women may despise other women.  From the
little I know of her, I don't think Camille Paglia is a woman-hater so
much as someone whose self-definition of what it means to be a woman
explicitly attacks women who don't fit her definition.  In much the
same way, I have met one too many self-identified Orthodox Jews who
are willing to deracinate other Jews who are not up to their standard
or definition of what it means to be Jewish.  Both Paglia or the
Orthodox seem to define The Other Guy as the sell-out, and locate
Power according to value systems I won't begin to discuss.

Ken
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>Anybody remember who I am?

But of course we remember you, giggles.  Fondly, too.
Sis
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Early morning blues...
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> of living here is *very* high.  Sending out for a pizza costs about
> 10 pounds, if that's a better yardstick for you.  4 or 5 times as much
> as the equivalent in the US.

Is that last sentence referring to the cost of sending out for pizza?  What's
the exchange rate these days?  I agree that 10 pounds is much more expensive
than ordering pizza here, but I would say it's more like twice the cost than
like 4 or 5 times the cost.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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>        Is that pounds sterling? The cost of living must be high where you are
>        because my income has been about half that for the past three years and
>        we've been living comfortably..... all six of us.
>
>Got room for one more?

Not at the moment.... I've only just got my dining room back after Tim moved
out. Officially this is only a two bedroom house which I bought for $25K in
1980 (pre- Kevin and Helen). As the boys grew older, I converted the sunroom
and the dining room and later the storage room under the house into bedrooms
for them, so they could have some privacy. Our accomodation is not luxurious
but it is comfortable.... and my monthly mortgage payments are only $241 @
month.

>My tiny little 1-room flat costs between 600
>and 450 pounds depending on the mortgage rate.  (A month) Yes, cost

Ouch! Perhaps you should think about emigrating.... a three bedroom house
only costs about $100 a week and single accomodation is around the $50-$60
@ week mark to rent..... cheaper if you want to share which most students do.

>of living here is *very* high.  Sending out for a pizza costs about
>10 pounds, if that's a better yardstick for you.  4 or 5 times as much
>as the equivalent in the US.
>
>G

We normally get two large pizzas on Mondays to Wednesdays for $20.... on other
nights they're $15 to $18 each. I guess that's more expensive than the US, but
how does it compare to the British variety? The Aussie dollar usually
fluctuates around the 70 cent US mark, but I don't recall what the exchange
rate is with the British pound.

Carolyn
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              92 10:34 am

> For the Gleanings-impaired...
>
> >  What are the Maryknolls?
>
>         A religious order of some sort.  Catholic, I suppose.

[How come non-Catholics are answering this??:-)]

Corrections of fact requested....

The Maryknolls are an order of uncloistered nuns who have become known
for social activism to the point where, from what I've heard, many
conservative Catholics find them abhorrently pro-Communist.  They are
associated, I think, with the "Liberation Theology" of South and
Central American priests which, yes, borrowed what it needed from
Marxism (horrors!) in the name of serving bodies and souls on earth
instead of telling those bodies and souls to wait for their reward
until they die at the hands of United Fruit.  It was three Maryknoll
sisters and a lay worker who were raped and murdered in El Salvador in
1980.

Ken
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>I think I remember from my years of living in N.O. that they pronounce
>it "Mahnt-Lee-Ahn"....  Some of the French names are pronounced in a
>really funny way, considering the fact that it is a French city.
>Carondolet Street is CarondoLET...  a student of mine at Tulane,
>named Lebourgeois, prounounced his name LubbaGEEzez..
>--ggs (extra points in *what*....  ???)

correct.  But the funny pronunciations are the way we tell natives
from mere immigrants.  It's also the result of the early cultural
conflict between the 'Americans' and the Creoles.

JAG
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