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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:25:00 EDT
From:         Bob Fowles 814-865-4774 <RBF@PSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      How do you attach XEROX 3700s to VM/ESA?

I just posted the following to XEROX-L@TAMVM1.  The latest posting to
RSCS-L by Dwight McCann poses a problem that I have to solve for our case.
Namely, how to send control sequences to the Xerox 3700.  I haven't actually
tried exits 17-18 to do that but I don't think it would work because the
spearator page lines are an extension of the print file which by definition
requires a carriage control character in the first position.

XEROX-L POSTING -------------------------------------------
>
>Date:    21 August 1992, 17:37:07 EDT
>From:    Bob Fowles                 814-865-4774    RBF      at PSUVM
>Subject: How do you attach XEROX 3700s to VM/ESA?
>To:      xerox-l at tamvm1
>
>I would like to know if anyone has done this, and basically, how you did it
>(e.g, added code to CP to support as a CP system printer, as a printer
>attached to a server (dvm) running code that supports the printer, as a
>bisync printer attached to RSCS, or as a bisync printer attached to a
>BARR/HASP station which is in turn attached to RSCS).
>
>Our situation: we run MVS/XA under VM/ESA and we drive 3 Xerox 3700 printers
>from JES2 modified to do that.  Since JES2 speaks bisync, it wasn't too
>difficult for us (many years ago) to add some exit code to send out Xerox
>control sequences to reset the printer after each print job, and select a
>stacker for inserting a separator page.  We now want to move all printing
>services from MVS to VM, including the Xerox's.
>
>I hope to find a solution that involves attaching the printers to rscs, but
>I don't yet know if I can send the required control sequences (separately or
>imbedded in the print or punch file) to reset the printer and control the
>stacker to insert a separator page.
>
>Bob Fowles, Center for Academic Computing, Penn State
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:52:26 CDT
From:         Charles Becker <CHARLES@ETSUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: RSCS V3.1 Message MOD query
              21 Aug 1992 14:05:24 EDT from <YOUNKER@VM.UTCS.UTORONTO.CA>

On Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:05:24 EDT Steve Younker said:
>We are about to upgrade our RSCS from V2.3 to V3.1.  I wasn't involved
>in the installation of V2.3 but I'm told that a MOD was installed that
>suppressed a certain message.  When node A sends a file to node C through
>node B, node B tells node A that the message has been forwarded to node C.
>I understand that the MOD essentially turns off the messages from node B.

I'm confused.

What's the difference between this "quiet mod" and specifying
OPTION SENTMSG=NO in the RSCS CONFIG?
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:08:43 EDT
From:         AWDCMS@VTVM1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Reengineering in Higher Edu
              3 Sep 1992 16:00:17 U from <jim_porter@AISQM.UCHICAGO.EDU>

At Virginia Tech we are very much involved in "business reengineering."
My department has been charged to work with administrative offices in
looking at how they do business and recommending new and advanced business
practices.  Then we look at the technology available and recommend what
is best.  It is a very exciting approach but I have to admit we are still
learning our way around.  The two areas that are active at this time are
Financial Aid and Human Resources.  We have worked on several smaller
projects including Mail Services (where we have recommended a self directed
team concept), Parking Services, and our Continuing Education Center.

A. Wayne Donald
Director
University Systems Analysis & Services (USAS)
Virginia Tech
134 Burruss Hall
Blacksburg, VA 24061-0152

703 231-7694
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:59:54 -0500
From:         BOSWORTH@UMAECS.BITNET
Subject:      data administration managerial position

We are in the process of reorganizing the data administration function at
the University of Mass.  We will be creating a full time position, the
function of which will be to manage management reporting, the data warehouse
(we don't have one, yet), and data administration for the President's Office.
Is there a job description out there for anything close to this type of
position?

Thanks.               Michael Bosworth
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:08:26 LCL
From:         "(Cynthia Golden)" <cgolden@MIT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Natural Language queries
X-To:         "Data Administrator's Group" <DASIG%SUVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>

Some people at Carnegie Mellon University were using it with an Ingres
database.  I'm not sure of the current status, but you can contact Len
Brush, Director of Administrative Systems at lb1z+@andrew.cmu.edu

-Cynthia Golden
MIT
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 13:24:25 -0500
From:         BOSWORTH@UMAECS.BITNET
Subject:      Erwin Rollauer question

In reply to E.Rollauer's question of modeling the data of 3rd gen. systems:

We have conducted a small amount of this but with a different emphasis.  That
is, we have used the ERM conventions to diagram the entities and relationships
reflected in the design decisions of the physical files.  We have applied
this to individual files.  This has been beneficial in producing a picture
which shows the assumptions (often debatable) built into the designs.

It seems McGill U. is trying something more ambitious.  That is, using the
files of the 3rd gen. systems as a basis, McGill is trying to produce an
integrated picture of what the business rules of those systems are, not
what the design decisions of those systems are.  This certainly is more
problematic and may not be worth it.  What are the goals of this effort --
to understand the old systems or to understand the organization's business
rules?  If the latter, the effort may not be worthwhile.  If the former,
concentrating on modeling each physical file separately can be enlightening.

  Michael Bosworth
  Univ. of Massachusetts
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:36:00 PST
From:         "LARRY NELSON,
              PLU INST. RESEARCH & PLANNING" <NELSON_L@PLU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: security position

>We have recently reorganized the Data Administration function at U of P
>and, in addition to other things, are considering creating a full time position
>dedicated to data security across campus (not just within central computing).
>This position will most likely have some responsibility for disaster recovery
>and business contingency planning.  Does anyone have a job description for
>this sort of position?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jeanne Curtis, Acting DA

        I recommend contacting CAUSE.  They have an excellent library
which is likely to include this type of material.
                Larry Nelson, Director, Inst. Research & Planning
                Pacific Lutheran Univ.
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:01:38 -0300
From:         Karen Wilder <karen.wilder@ACADIAU.CA>
Subject:      Natural Language queries

I apologize for multiple postings ....

At Acadia University we are investigating Natural Language as a query
tool for our Oracle database.  Is anyone else currently using natural
language?

                           ---------------------
Karen Wilder                           Phone: (902) 542-2201 Ext. 437
I S Manager, Computer Centre             Fax: (902) 542-4364
Acadia University                   Internet: Karen@admin.acadiau.ca
Wolfville, NS  B0P 1X0
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:01:00 CDT
From:         YEHLE@OSHKOSHW.BITNET
Subject:      Entity Modeling Request

        Now that we're becoming more comfortable with entity modeling, and
have gone through several project modeling sessions, we're finding chalk
boards, white boards and copy machines somewhat less than adequate for
recording the history of an evolving entity-relationship diagram. Does anyone
have any suggestions for a data modeling tool, mainframe- or PC-based ?
It doesn't need a lot of fancy bells and whistles. Just a moderately-priced,
user-friendly, reasonably-intuitive modeling tool. Any suggestions would be
appreciated.

        On a similar note, does anyone have an entity model for 'Student-
related data' they would be willing to share, via fax or E-mail ?
A fresh viewpoint from the outside might help us see things from a new
perspective.

        Thanks for any direction or insight you can give.

=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
Patti Yehle, Senior Programmer/Analyst     Fax :  (414) 424 - 7317
c/o Computer Services   - D305           Phone :  (414) 424 - 3025
University of Wisconsin - Oshkosh       Bitnet :  YEHLE@OSHKOSHW
800 Algoma Blvd.                      Internet :  YEHLE@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Oshkosh, Wisconsin  54901
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:24:01 -0400
From:         Jeanne Curtis <curtis@A1.RELAY.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      security position
X-To:         dasig@suvm.acs.syr.EDU

We have recently reorganized the Data Administration function at U of P
and, in addition to other things, are considering creating a full time position
dedicated to data security across campus (not just within central computing).
This position will most likely have some responsibility for disaster recovery
and business contingency planning.  Does anyone have a job description for
this sort of position?

Thanks,

Jeanne Curtis, Acting DA
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:00:17 U
From:         Jim Porter <jim_porter@AISQM.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject:      Reengineering in Higher Edu

     Reengineering in Higher Education?                           9/3/92
DASIG subscribers:

Applying business reengineering concepts to higher education has been discussed
for several years. (See, for example, Penrod & Dolence, Cause/Effect, Summer
1991)

Has your organization taken a 'reengineering' approach with any significant
business process?  Are you aware of any reengineering/transformation/process
modeling effort at any college or university?

I am researching business reengineering for possible application at the
University of Chicago. An actual case study or two will help in selling the
idea to our senior management.

Any information you can share with us on your experiences with reengineering in
higher education will be greatly appreciated. I will share your response with
all other persons responding--unless you ask that your information not be
shared or that anonymity be maintained.

Thanks and best wishes

James H. Porter
Associate Director
Administrative Information Systems
The University of Chicago
1155 East 60th Street
Chicago   IL 60637

Phone: 312/702-4501
Fax: 312/702-9885

internet: j-porter@uchicago.edu
From: SNALO@ALASKA.BITNET (Lewis Overton)
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Subject: RE: Natural Language queries
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:52:48 GMT
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> From:         Karen Wilder <karen.wilder@ACADIAU.CA>
> At Acadia University we are investigating Natural Language as a query
> tool for our Oracle database.  Is anyone else currently using natural
> language?

We are beginning to explore natural language queries at the University
of Alaska, but have not gotten far. It became quickly obvious that we
need to do a lot of work to develop a clear data model with explicit and
accurate definitions. We've begun work on an enterprise data model.
Until we get at least part way, we don't expect natural language to do
much for us.

Lewis Overton, Research Associate
University of Alaska
snalo@orca.alaska.edu  or  snalo@alaska.bitnet
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:16:29 CDT
From:         David Young <SY06@UNTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Renaming a database.
X-To:         SQLINFO@UICVM.BITNET, SQL-L@MITVMA.BITNET

Does anyone out there know of a simple way of changing the name of a
database running under SQL/DS 3.2 in CMS without having to re-generate
it?  Thanks in advance.
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 08:13:59 EDT
From:         MASEMORT@WMAVM7.VNET.IBM.COM
Subject:      re: Renaming a database.
X-To:         sqlinfo%uicvm.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu

SQL/DS allows a DBNAME to be different than the database MACHINE ID,
so "renaming a database" will differ, depending on which one you wish
to change.  Database name changing becomes more important with SQL/DS
3.3 due to DRDA issues, so the System Administration manual for 3.3
(GH09-8084-03) now includes a section on "Changing the Server Name and
Resource Identifier".  A quick summary for SQL/DS 3.2 would be:

1) Changing database machine id
   - change VM directory machine id references
   - change DBMACHID in "dbname SQLDBN" (on production & service disk)
   - change machineid references in ARISPIDC MACRO if 195 & 193 disk
     ownership is changed (on production disk and service disk)
   - change machineid references in "dbname SQLFDEF" file for all
     changed disk ownerships (on database 191, 193, 195 disks)

2) Changing DBNAME
   - rename "dbname SQLDBGEN" file to new dbname (195 disk)
   - rename "dbname SQLDBN" file to new dbname (193 & 195)
   - change dbname reference in "dbname SQLDBN" file
   - rename "dbname SQLFDEF" file to new dbname (191, 193, 195 disks)
   - change dbname within SQLSTART command (e.g. within PROFILE EXEC)

These items should take care of the database itself (if I haven't
forgotten anything).  You will then need to assure that external
references to the database (applications, SQLINIT by users, etc.) are
also modified appropriately.

Terry Masemore
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From: juengst@boss1.physik.uni-bonn.de (Henry G. Juengst)
Subject: Q: Documentation about ansi sql and/or iso sql ?
Keywords: ansi sql, iso sql
Organization: Universit"at Bonn, Informatikinstitut, R"omerstr 154, W-5300 Bonn 1
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 21:03:30 GMT

Hello,

  does anybody know where I can find documentations about ansi sql and/or
iso sql (1, 2) ? Does a description of sql exist on any ftp site ?

Please, mail your answer directly to me. Thanks in advance.

Henry

-- 
juengst@boss1.physik.uni-bonn.de [131.220.221.30]
juengst@saph2.physik.uni-bonn.de [131.220.221.12]
juengst@pib1.physik.uni-bonn.de  [131.220.221.2] (strange particle)

I'm only speaking for myself, but not for anybody else !
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:56:00 EDT
From:         FPEOC@CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU
Subject:      Re: Renaming a database.; David Young <SY06@UNTVM1.BITNET>

The name of the sql/ds database is contained in all kinds of control
files and it would  be like playing with fire to change it.

Frank P. Esposito
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:27:16 -0600
From:         Stellar Systems Group <STELLAR@BCSC02.BITNET>
Subject:      Tuning SQL Queries

 On Tue, 25 Aug 92 20:38:42 EDT Frank C. Fillmore Jr. said:

 >Baerbel,
 >
 >You have a requirement for an "outer join".  This is not directly
 >supported by the SQL language, but there's a way to get there:
 >
 >SELECT a.col1, b.col2
 >FROM tab1 a, tab2 b
 >WHERE a.col1 = b.col1
 >UNION
 >SELECT a.col1, ' '
 >FROM tab1 a
 >WHERE NOT EXISTS ( SELECT 1 FROM tab2
 >                   WHERE a.col1 = col1 )
 >
 >This is the two-table form and assumes that b.col2 is character data.
 >It can be extended to the limit of the number of joins supported ( 15
 >I believe).

 I'd like to point out that the subquery will perform better if it is
 coded as:

    WHERE NOT EXISTS (SELECT 1 FROM tab2
                      WHERE col1 = a.col1 )

 This new coding will perform better, since the predicate 'col1 = a.col1'
 is both sargable and indexable, while the predicate 'a.col1 = col1' is not.

 Regards,
 John F. Griffin
 Stellar Systems Group
 306 - 1095 McKenzie Avenue
 Victoria, B.C.  Canada  V8P 2L5
 Phone:(604) 479-7722  Fax:(604) 479-6526
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:16:44 EDT
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From:         rosenberg@PO.MIT.EDU
Subject:      Changing SQL-ID when using CMS pipes' sql filter?

 Independent of where this message claims to have come from, I can be
reached at the Bitnet address "DMR@MITVMA" or the Internet address
"rosenberg@mit.edu".

 I have a question about access to SQl/DS through CMS Pipes.

 I want "sql execute delete" and "sql insert" pipeline stages to operate
under a SQL-ID different from my VM User-ID. That is, I want them to
operate under the effect of a SQL "CONNECT sqlid IDENTIFIED BY password"
statement. Can I do that, and if so how?

 Thanks.

 /David Rosenberg (Tel.: 617-253-8054, Internet: "rosenberg@mit.edu")
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:38:00 EDT
From:         FPEOC@CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU
Subject:      Re: divide dbspace; Anna Olszewska <OLS@PLEARN.BITNET>

The question was asked how do I split a dbspace into 4 parts. If you mean
that you want to  split a 10,000 page dbspace in 4 2500  it cant be done.
Just unload the tables in the dbspace into other dbspaces. a dbspace is a
logical object. It doesn't take up any space if there is nothing in it.

Frank P. Esposito
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:42:55 -0600
From:         Stellar Systems Group <STELLAR@BCSC02.BITNET>
Subject:      UNION versus UNION ALL

 I sent a note to the list a couple of hours ago with an ugly query to do an
 outer join on three tables.  The query was actually seven queries unioned
 together.  In my haste to send the note, I took a query that had a single
 UNION and edited it, and ended with with a poorly coded statement.

 The statement I ended up with had seven queries which were unioned together.
 The statement looked like:
    A UNION B UNION C UNION D UNION E UNION F UNION G.
 It would have been better coded as:
    A UNION ALL B UNION ALL C UNION ALL D UNION ALL E UNION ALL F UNION G.

 The UNION operator combines the two answer sets and does a sort to remove
 duplicates.  In the first statement this is done a total of six times.

 The UNION ALL operator in the second statement combines the two answer sets,
 but does not do the sort or remove duplicates.  By using a UNION ALL for the
 first five unions, and a UNION on the last union, it will only do the sort
 and removal of duplicates once.  But I shouldn't have any duplicates anyway
 since I'm doing an outer join, so I could probably just use UNION ALL six
 times.

 Regards,
 John F. Griffin
 Stellar Systems Group
 306 - 1095 McKenzie Avenue
 Victoria, B.C.  Canada  V8P 2L5
 Phone:(604) 479-7722  Fax:(604) 479-6526
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 08:21:17 EST
From:         Bonnie Gable <ACC00BCG@UNCCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ACM SIGUCCS Announcement

I would be interested in attending SIGUCCS ... but if money is tight
(and it almost always is) I would opt for attending MacWorld in January.
I haven't been to MacWorld in several years and I think this should be another
informative expo. -- with the various new Macs (IIvi, IIvx, etc.), the Newton,
and all sorts of Quicktime gadgets.  I am not sure of the date for the expo
but it is usually held in San Francisco in January.  If you think it would
be possible to attend I will go ahead and get info.  I also mentioned it
to Finn because I think he would enjoy it.  Would you like to go?
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:13:58 EDT
From:         Fred Dwyer <FDDWYER@RHQVM21.VNET.IBM.COM>
Subject:      RESPONSE TO APL2/6000 REQUEST
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>Subject:      APL2
>
>Has IBM AIX APL2/6000 (5765-012) been requested for HESC?
>If not I would like to request that it be added to Group I-G.
>
>Ron Greve
>Systems Manager
>South Dakota State University
                -------------------------------
Yes, it was reviewed for the last HESC update but was rejected at the
direction of the IBM product owner.  I'm sorry that we will be unable
to provide you with this product under the HESC.
                             Fred Dwyer
                             IBM/ACIS
From: SURU@TWNMOE10.BITNET (Liu)
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Subject: OSI program product for VM
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:11:05 GMT
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Dear Netter,

   I posted a E-mail requesting info. about OSI/CS and OSI/FS for VM
last week. But there is no response so far. From my old HESC listing
from IBM, the OSI/CS (5684-013) appears in group I-A4. But OSI/FS
does not appear in any group. Why? Can it now support LAN connectivity
through 8232 LCS? Do I need any other lpp for my VM system to communicate
with the OSI world? Any information will be very much appreciated.

Regards,  --Liu
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:41:47 EDT
From:         Fred Dwyer <FDDWYER@RHQVM21.VNET.IBM.COM>
Subject:      DFDSM under MVS
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>From:         Chuck Sechler <TS0258%OHSTMVSA.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
>Subject:      Re: re: dfdsm
>
>Since there is one product number for the MVS and VM platform for DFDSM,
>can we order this with the MVS feature numbers for our MVS system, given
>that we have the right VM HESC group licensed? I assume this is in I-A4.
                     --------------------------------
I'm afraid I don't recognize "DFDSM" as a product we have under HESC.  I know
it's a major player in the MVS world.  What is the Program ID (PID) number?
If the program is HESC listed, members are entitled to order it (for
qualifying uses) to run under MVS.
                                Fred Dwyer
                                IBM/ACIS
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