From: ss511583@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (Sohban Shahid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Sorry,  you forgot Muhammad (PBUH)!
Date: 12 Apr 92 07:35:43 GMT
Reply-To: ss511583@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (Sohban Shahid)
Organization: Engineering College, Colorado State University


       After going through 200 + articles of Ahmedie Muslims (unofficial)
on scp I feel an urgent need of an article that basically make our faith
more strong and if by chance we have gathered some wrong concepts 
from our materialistic small world we should realize our standing. To
start my discussion I will make few remarks on our present attitude 
and these are for all the believers of one god, and that will most certainly
cover  my Ahmedi friends.
a)  Bani Israels were the chosen people of god on this earth,
b)  Iman is just not  La-e-laha il-lal lah ,
c)  People who misinterpreted quran for their cheap (quran has used
      the word cheap....  qalil) gains will lose all their good deeds here 
      and the world there after,
d)  Down fall of Bani Israels was due to foolish questions on the 
      slaughtering  of a cow and most simply they argued with Allah/god.
e)  What quran is trying to present? Is it a symbolic representation of
       something or is it an story book ? which is centuries old and has no 
       new edition.
f)    Islam zinda hoota hai har Karbala kai baad.....

       You may be an atheist  or an agnostic; or you may belong to anyone
of the religious denominations that exists in the world today. You may
be a communist (which are already on a decline) or a believer in demo
-cracy or freedom. No matter what you are, and no matter what your
religious and political beliefs, personal and social habits happen to be --
YOU SHOULD NOT FORGET THIS MAN.

He was by far the most remarkable man that ever set foot on this earth.
He preached a religion..... religion of Adam, Moses,Jesus and of every 
Apostle, founded down a moral code, initiated numberless social and
political reforms, eastablished a dynamic and powerful society to practice
and represent his teachings, and completely revolutionized the world
of human thought and action for all times to come. HIS NAME WAS
MUHAMMAD, peace and blessing of Almighty God be upon him and
he accomplished all these wonders in the unbelievably short span of 
twenty-three years.

Q:   Why Allah send Muhammad to Arabian Peninsula not  Kharian, 
Pakistan or  Pak Patan, India, and for god sake not in East Africa?

RECALL  your Islamic teachings ........  hope you will find something 
like paganism, idol worship, drunkenness, debauchery, anarchy, and
moral bankruptcy.

The encyclopedia Britannica calls MUHAMMAD (PBUH) "the most
succesful of all religious personailities of the world". Bernard Shaw said
about him that if Muhammad (PBUH) were alive today he would 
succed in solving all those problems which threaten to destroy human
civilization in our times." The world has had its share of great persona-
lities. But these were one-sided figures who distinguished themselves
in but one or two fields. None of the other great leaders or the world 
ever combined in himself so many different qualities to such an amazing
level of perfection as did Muhammad (PBUH).  

The lives and teaching of other great personalities of the world are 
shrouded in the mist of time. There is so much speculation about the 
time and place of their birth, the mode and style of their lives,  the nature
and detail of their teachings and the degrees and the measure of their 
success or failure that it is impossible for humanity today to reconstruct 
accurately and precisely the lives and teachings of those men.

Q:  Is there any major difference in Lahori Ahmedies and other Ahmedies?
       If there is any then what about the teaching of your Massayah?


Not so this man Muhammad (PBUH). Not only was he born in the fullest
blaze of recorded history, but every detail of his private and public life, of
his actions and utterances, has been accurately documented and faith
-fully preserved for our day.  The authenticity of the information so 
preserved is vouched for not only by faithful followers but also by unbiased
critics and open-minded scholars.

Q:  If Allah got such a nice messanger why now he need less capable person 
      to carry his message? If the message of Allah was complete the day of
      last Khutba and there are no new editions of quran why some new 
      interpreter?  Can some other person explain Quran better than 
      Muhammad (PBUH), the book that has been revealed on him?     

      Sure Almighty God is not running out of his resources. If he wants, he 
can send more prophets and certainly more books like Quran or may be a 
new edition of it with some better explaination of NEW WORLD ORDER. 
So if there is  room for one or more persons to come then why this old book, 
I also demand a new book and atleast a new edition of it.  All those verses of 
Quran which declares its supremecy are wrong (Na-oozobillah) and with 
no great surprise I'm out of Islam. But if Islam was the religion of Adam 
and others Apostles, where should I go now? My only fault is that I am 
looking for future communication means wassila....pakistani version of 
many biddaties..... a ladder to achieve higher ranks. Oh! budy here I forgot 
my Taqwaa,  a scale to measure Iman. No problemo, I have developed this 
habit over the years and I'm still forgetting things.
 
              Tum bata doo raz jo iss gumbate kirdanN maiN hai               
              Maut ikk chobhta howa kanta dilai insaN maiN hai
     
At the level of ideas there is no system or thought and belief-secular or
religious, social or political which could surpass or equal ISLAM- the 
system which Muhammad (PBUH) propounded. In a fast changing 
world, while other systems have undergone profound transformations,
islam alone has remained above all change and mutation ( changes made
by a small faction or by all factions are  like Bani Israel  and they are
not muslims and their religion is not Islam), and retained its original form
for the past 1400 years. What is more, the positive changes that are taking
place in the world of human thought  and behavior, truly and consistently
reflect the healthy influence of Islam in these areas. 

Further, it is not given to the best of thinkers to put their ideas completely
into practice, and see the seeds of their labors grow and bear fruit in their
own lifetime. Except of course,  Muhammad (PBUH), who not only 
preached the most wonderful ideas but also successfully translated each
one of them into practice in his own lifetime. At the time of his death his
teachings were not mere percepts and ideas straining for fulfillment, but
had become the very core of the life of tens of thousands of perfectly 
trained individuals, each one of whom was a marvelous personification of
everything that Muhammad (PBUH) taught and stood for. At what 
other time or place and in relation to what other political , social ,
religious
system, philosophy or ideology-did the world ever witness such perfectly
amazing phenomenon?

Indeed no other system or ideology secular or religious, social or political,
ancient or modern could ever claim the distinction of having been put 
into practice in its fullness and entirety EVEN ONCE in this world, either
before or after the death of its founder. Except of course  ISLAM, the 
ideology preached by Muhammad which was established as a complete
way of life by the teacher himself, before he departed from this world.
History bears testimony to this fact and the greatest skeptics have no
option but to concede this point.

A world which has not hesitated to raise to divinity individuals whose 
very lives and missions have been lost in legend and who historically 
speaking did not accomplish half as much or even one-tenth as was
accomplished by Muhammad (PBUH), should stop to take serious 
note of this remarkable man's claim to be the last God's messanger to 
mankind.

Now brothers and friends judge yourself and find your own standing.
If you feel like that the message is not complete then sure we want more
prophecies and more qurans ..........which simply denies the fact that holy
prophet Mohammad (PBUH) was Sadiq and Ameen (Na-oozobillah).
A black scar on the best of the bests ( an Ahmedie belief), the last Khutba 
of prophet was false and those who took the oath were munafiq's 
(Na-oozobillah). Free to go any where , we are NON MUSLIM.

                         Buss  kai dushwar  hai har kam ka  assaN  hoonaN
                         Addami ko  bhi  muyassar  naheeN insaaN hoonaN

My last comment is

 ISLAM  ZINDA  HOOTA  HAI  ZIKAR-E   NABI   KAI    BAAD
  
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