From: hjel@midway.uchicago.edu (Death-PartyCentral)
Subject: Re: Wolves! They're back?
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: 4 Jan 93 08:40:57 CST
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Dec21.102613.3466@doug.cae.wisc.edu> ketchum@cs.montana.edu (Steve White) writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.092550.24754@doug.cae.wisc.edu> cavallar@cyber.net (Mark A Cavallaro) writes:
>>The latest issue of Western Outdoors has a lengthy article on the pros
>>and not many cons of reintroducing wolves in the west.
  Steve White writes....
>3) my view: the right one :-)
>	Its too bad that there is not enough wild areas that can support things
>	like grizzlies, wolves, native americans, wolverines, etc. Development
>	happens and will continue to happen, and most of the time the emphasis
>	is on financial returns and not on the environment. There is constant
>	development going on in the YNPk and in W. Yellowstone. That adversly 
>	affects the natural environment's ability to support the diversity of
>	wildlife that the area is/was capable of supporting. Of course this is
>	taking place most every where. 
>
>	People are moving into this area in droves (mostly from CA) 'cuz they
>	"like it here. It's so much more pleasant here." And I'm sure that it
>	is. But everytime someone else moves here it becomes more like where
>	they came from. (I am a hypocrite. I moved here 10 years ago from 
>	Texas/Okla.) But there is now stoping them. And prime areas for 
>	development are prime winter habitat for the elk and mule deer.
>	And Incidently winter range is the limiting factor in the size of
>	our mule deer and elk herds.
>
>Okay I'm off of my soap box. Bring on the flames. But first one more thing.
>I don't think that the U.S. Dept. of Fish & Wildlife will ever reintroduce
>the wolves back into the Yellowstone Ecosystem. For two reasons; one- there
>is too much opposition from the locals who would have to live with them and
>two- someone else has already done it. Who? No one
>seems to know but several canids have been spotted and one shot that are 
>probably very much wolf if not 100% It's not that easy to say this critter
>is a dog and this is a wolf, since the wolf is a distant ancester to ALL
>breeds of domestic dogs. Yes, even those obnoxious, little punt dogs.
>							   _________________

	i wholly agree with opinion #3, over developement has totally
raped this country and others, and unfortuantely there seems no end in
sight.  you mentioned people moving from california?....damn right, i
used to live there.  talk about over developement...when i moved to
the san diego area 10 years ago there was a large quantity of coastal
area undeveloped, but in the last decade everything had been built
upon.  first to go were the coyotes, then the rabbits, and finally the
rattle snakes.  it's a damn shame but it can't really be changed now,
we've f*cked it too much.  too bad the American Indians didn't kill
off the early settlers, at least the Indians had a clue as how to live
WITH the earth.  maybe someday we'll have national parks and
reservations to keep us humans in and let nature keep the rest....  
oh well.
				-jh
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