From: dan@Ingres.COM (1 Min. Mgr 1aB)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: THE IMPLICATIONS OF ABORTION ON OUR SOCIETY
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:18:51 GMT
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In-reply-to: lip@s1.gov's message of 13 Apr 92 22:29:28 GMT

Interesting how you went on about how God killed so many in old testament
times and asked the question about whether or not God had the ability to
reform those He killed.

One of the consequences of making living beings instead of micro-controlled
robots is that living beings such as ourselves by nature have freedom--
something that you will not find created by mere laws of physics but rather
found only in beings created by another living being.

God can reform whoever He wishes.  He has infinite power and infinite
knowledge, etc.  We don't.  He also is completely benevolent so that He has
never and will never make a mistake or make a choice that is less than the
best possible.

Is it any wonder that His best decisions might conflict with our understanding
of what is best since the human mind has limits?  Perhaps rather than come
against God in judgement for those He apparently killed, we should attempt to
understand His motives--that's right--think.  Perhaps the crime is not that
God killed, but rather that we made it best for Him to do so and as God is
benevolent, He acted accordingly.

If you take a good look at the Old Testament and New Testament, I'm sure you
will find this is the case without exception and that the blood of man is on
his own hands as it is for the abortions that are being done today.

Scientists have developed strong enough equipment to know that brain wave
activity begins around or before the time an abortion can be performed.  We
have enough evidence to believe that a child is a child regardless of his or
her location.  We have enough knowledge to know it is wrong to kill that
child.  But does the human race have enough honesty to admit it?  I doubt it.

Back to the question of reform.  Who knows for certain that the AIDS virus
itsself is not a method of giving reform?  Who knows that it's infection of
both the unjust and just, young and old, are not a benevolent lesson that we
should stop repeating the lies of this and the past generation saying that
whatever we do in private is our right to do and that what harm we bring is
really not at our own hands.  Who can tell us that the private sins of man
is not killing Arthur Ash at this time?

Folks, it's time to start being honest.  Sin is sin for a reason and the longer
we make a mockery of what is good and  right--the longer we remain proud
stupid liars and remain in our sin, the more work we will do in proving that
a loving God may have little choice other than to send some to the endless
fire of hell.

Come on and flame and mock if you wish.  I just don't care.  I hope the point
has been made.

            Dan
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