HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: harper@oracorp.com (Douglas Harper)
Subject: Shrift (was Re: floating and sinking)
Organization: ORA Corporation, Ithaca, New York
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:04:02 GMT

In article <BxGMzq.Ct8@cck.coventry.ac.uk> idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) writes:
>Sorry to folloup to my own followup, but I missed a small element in the
>chain of reasoning: it was considered necessary before death to make a
>final confession of one's sins, and to be absolved (shriven) of them, thus
>dying in a state of grace, if one were to have a hope of gaining Heaven.
>Dying unshriven, without the last sacraments, was greatly feared.

There's a good illustration of this in Act V Scene II of _Hamlet_.
Hamlet tells Horatio how he turned the tables on Rosencrantz and
Guildenstern, setting them up for "sudden death" in England, "Not
shriving-time allow'd".

Don't mess with broody intellectuals, I'd say.

-- 
Douglas Harper | harper@oracorp.com | +1 (607) 277-2020
From: briand@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Brian D Diehm)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Fro (Was Re: Floating and Sinking (Stuff))
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:31:36 GMT
Reply-To: briand@tekig5.PEN.TEK.COM
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

>I think a fro is also a woodshaving tool (if I've got the spelling right).

It's froe.

-Brian
--
Brian Diehm
Tektronix, Inc.                (503) 627-3437         briand@tekig5.PEN.TEK.COM
P.O. Box 500, M/S 19-286
Beaverton, OR   97077
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo)
Subject: Re: ***OED ONLINE***
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 02:04:47 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <Yf0KxYO00WB_ADLUle@andrew.cmu.edu> bl2m+@andrew.cmu.edu (Benjamin D. Lukoff) writes:
>The University of Washington has made the OED online unavailable to
>users not accessing UWIN from the University of Washington itself...
>Therefore telnetting to uwin.u.washington.edu will not get you the OED
>online...

(An attempt at humor follows:)
Thank you for this announcement of a lack of service.

I certainly hope this does not start a trend.

(Why, NY state governor Mario Cuomo would have to spend the rest of
his term if he were to list the services that NY state does not provide:-))

-- 
 Ralph Yozzo (yozzo@watson.ibm.com)  
 From the beautiful and historic Mid-Hudson Valley area of NY state
From: mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: How're (was Re: The "education" ...)
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:06:32 GMT
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

In <Nov.8.01.27.37.1992.28853@romulus.rutgers.edu> clong@romulus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) writes:

>In article <1dfu58INNgkh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, Richard A. Mulac writes:

>> BZZZZT! Wrong.  *We're*, *you're*, *I'm*, *hasn't*, etc. are all "proper" 
>> English contractions.  *How're* is NOT (pronounced "hower").

>I find it completely bizarre that someone would suggest that "you're"
>is a valid construct while at the same time claiming that "how're" isn't.

Contractions are written down as they are, because that is how they are
pronounced.

You try it.
There is a big difference between "you are" and "you're".  The first takes
two syllables the second only one.

Now try "how are" and "how're".  They are pronounced exactly the same.

The second is not a valid contraction because it doesn't buy you anything
when you say it.

-- 
Mob rule doesn't become any prettier, just because the mob start to call itself
a government.
It ain't charity if you are using someone else's money.
Mark.Wilson@AtlantaGA.NCR.com
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From: clong@romulus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
Subject: How're (was Re: The "education" ...)
Date: 8 Nov 92 06:27:38 GMT
Followup-To: alt.usage.english
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1dfu58INNgkh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, Richard A. Mulac writes:

> BZZZZT! Wrong.  *We're*, *you're*, *I'm*, *hasn't*, etc. are all "proper" 
> English contractions.  *How're* is NOT (pronounced "hower").

I find it completely bizarre that someone would suggest that "you're"
is a valid construct while at the same time claiming that "how're" isn't.

> Of course they were trying to contract "How are".  However, it is not
> proper and is considered "broken" English.  Check any reputable
> dictionary.

It's informal and uncommon in print, but it certainly isn't "wrong".
As for appearing in dictionaries, I found it occurring in _Slang and
Euphemism_ and in two quotes in the _Oxford English Dictionary_, one
dating from 1928.  It isn't as common, but it's no more or less valid
that "you're".  This is all irrelevant anyway, since dictionaries don't
*define* what is a valid word, they *catalog* the more common examples.

> In fact, your news program might have a spell checker built in.  I'll
> bet you it accepts *we're*, *you're*, *I'm*, *hasn't*, etc., but
> rejects *how're*.

See my point about dictionaries above; you also might find it interesting
that the uncommon and improper word "condom" isn't in /usr/dict/words
on the Rutgers machines.
-- 
Chris Long, 265 Old York Rd., Bridgewater, NJ  08807-2618
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: "peter curran" <peter.curran@canrem.com>
Subject: pop &c.
Reply-To: "peter curran" <peter.curran@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 11 Nov 92 08:44:54 EST


>b) What areas of the U.S. still call carbonated beverages "pop" and
>not "soda" ?

LL>Well, this isn't the U.S. -- but my Canadian boyfriend calls it "pop."  So
LL>do my Michigander parents.  Must be all that cold air.

When I was growing up, in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, it was always "soft
drink."  But in the last ten years or so it seems to have become "pop."
(Americans are everywhere - the country is going to the dogs.  :-))

Peter Curran
Usenet: peter.curran@canrem.com
---
  DeLuxe 1.25 #12339  
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: TEWKSBURY@BUDSGA.BU.EDU (Chip Tewksbury)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Various things
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:40:34 GMT
Organization: BOSTON UNIVERSITY, OFFICE OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <1992Nov8.042646.10166@news.columbia.edu> gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu writes:

> ...
> b) What areas of the U.S. still call carbonated beverages "pop" and
> not "soda" ?
>... 

    We, the people from New England, call it "tonic."  
    (New England "breezers" refer to it as pop and soda.  :-)

			Chip Tewksbury.
From: windsor@hera.Berkeley.EDU (Katherine Windsor)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Have X, will trav
Date: 10 Nov 1992 22:15:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: hera.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov8.175029@IASTATE.EDU> mcoffin@IASTATE.EDU (Marie Coffin) writes:
>In article <651.18.uupcb@pcs.sj.ca.us>, paul.burnett@pcs.sj.ca.us (Paul Burnett)
much deleted
>
>Incidentally, Robert Heinlein wrote a novel in 1957 entitled _Have
>Spacesuit, Will Travel_.  This would seem to indicate that the phrase
>was common parlance at the time.  
>
>
>Marie Coffin

I have a little wire-bound cookbook for good housewives given to me 
as a joke by my mother-in-law.  It was printed in 1952, and is 
titled "Have Cookbook, Will Marry."  It is full of delightful tips
like "how to flirt with your husband's boss in a light, flattering way
when he comes over for the (at the time) inevitable lamb dinner."  
I love reading about what a wife's job used to be (i.e. boosting a
tired husband's self-esteem at the expense of one's own).  

-Katherine 



Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca (Rosemary A. Warren -- Montreal, Quebec, Canada)
Subject: Re: Michael Jackson's Hair (was:re Fro)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: Jackson,hair
Organization: Concordia University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:01:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.140224.3129@dg-rtp.dg.com>, cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes...
>In article <1992Nov5.111141.7429@ncsu.edu>, echyatt@eos.ncsu.edu (EDWARD CRAIG HYATT) writes:
>|> >Well, here's a counterexample to your theory:
>|> >"In the early 1970's, Michael Jackson wore his hair in a fro."
							    ^^^^^
the hairstyle is AFRO.
-----------------------------------
"Speed demon, speedin' down the freeway, gotta get a leeway ..."
	-- Michael Jackson, "Speed Demon", inaccurately describing Vax2

Rosemary Warren		rwarren@topaz.concordia.ca
Montreal's Favorite Jacksonmaniac !!!
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth L. Blumberg)
Subject: Re: Various things
Organization: Generic American College Kids (G.A.C.K.)
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 04:37:33 GMT
Reply-To: slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth L. Blumberg)
X-Posted-From: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener) writes:
[part (a) deleted]
>
>b) What areas of the U.S. still call carbonated beverages "pop" and
>not "soda" ?
>
[part (c) deleted]

Well, Gabe, I know we call it "pop" back home in Michigan, so I'd have to say
the answer is "C, ye Olde Midde-Weste."

	Seth "the Lesser" (What? I won the new car? Oh my Ghod!)

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    > No one I know shares my opinions, least of all Columbia University. <
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: ccjal@cc.newcastle.edu.au (John A Lambert)
Subject: Re: I before E rule
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:06:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.201605.14865@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>, jwagner@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Joseph F. Wagner) writes:
> Everyone remebers the rule: "I before E except after C and in the case of A
> like in weigh and neighbor." 
> 
> Well, there is a third part to this little rhyme that talks about exceptions
> like leisure. If anyone can mail me the entire rule, I will be eternally
> indebted to you. Please mail me as I don't read this group and, as always,
> thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> Joe
-- 
The rule as I learned it 55 or so years ago was `I before E when the sound is
ee.'

That handles neighbor and weigh; the way we pronounce leisure here (lezha) it
also handles that case.

John A Lambert
Centre for Literary and Linguistic Computing
The University of Newcastle NSW 2308 Australia
Phone National        (049)21 5751    Fax National       (049) 21 6910
      International +61 49 21 5751        International +61 49 21 6910
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Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: dant@techbook.com (Dan Tilque)
Subject: Re: acronyms and full stops
Organization: Pseudopolis Yard
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 03:34:15 GMT

steven@syacus.acus.oz.au (Steven Malikoff) writes:
>microsoc@black.ox.ac.uk (Microsoc) writes:
>: Hence it is BBC, not B.B.C., UN not U.N., USA not U.S.A.
>                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>During WWII, stencils used for marking military vehicles and the like
>were "U.S.A.", not "USA" in every photo I've seen. (And that's a few!) 

A very good example of punctuation disappearing.  Other examples:

   In school (back in the 60's) I was taught that post script was
   abbreviated P.S.  Now you seldom see the periods used, especially
   here on the net.

   If you read Lewis Carroll, you will see "won't" and "can't" written
   with an extra apostrophe: wo'n't and ca'n't.  I can't remember any
   other writer doing this, but I assume that in some circles this was
   considered correct.


---
Dan Tilque    --     dant@techbook.com
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth L. Blumberg)
Subject: Re: Derivation of "wonk"
Organization: Generic American College Kids (G.A.C.K.)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:15:49 GMT
Reply-To: slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth L. Blumberg)
X-Posted-From: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Ted B Samsel writes:
>I like this word WONK. As in  policy WONK. Any ideas on the
>derivations thereof?
>-- 
>Ted....

Well, the Jargon File 2.9.10 gives it as originating from Australian slang.
Any Aussies out there who can confirm or deny this?

	Seth "the Lesser"

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    > No one I know shares my opinions, least of all Columbia University. <
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: thayes@desire.wright.edu
Subject: Re: "Bilingual Education"
Organization:  Wright State University 
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 18:17:20 GMT


Let's end this discussion, shall we?  


PB> Oh, my - are you not aware of the _original_ mistake made in the late
> 1400's by Columbus _et al_   ... (deleted)

Like maybe around 1492?

Yes Paul, I've been "aware" of this navigational happenstance 
for many, many years.
 
PB> I believe they've been calling themselves "Indians" for four or five
> thousand years - India has been called India since Dravidian peoples
> settled in the Indus River valley about 2500 BC.

This I *have* learned from our exchange.

TH>I think the idea is that they were denizens of the *continent* we refer to as
>North America ... (deleted)

PB> The point I'm making is that these people were here for 11,000 years or
> so before Amerigo Vespucci was born, and calling them "Americans" is
> as historically inaccurate as calling them "Indians."

So your favored term -- "Amerindian"? -- has the double fault *by your 
own logic* of (a) being historically innacurate and (b) not being consistent
with the "squatter's rights" usage of the term Indian by those of aboriginal
ancestory.  Referring back to an earlier thread, this is an example of 
cognitive dissonance.

Now as I asked earlier, *what* does this have to do with bilingual education?

-----ted hayes
From: dgreen@thor (David Greenebaum)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Toe the Line.  Do you mean "tow the line?"
Date: 11 Nov 1992 22:05:07 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.berkeley.edu

[some fool named David Casseres wrote]
>[some fool named David Casseres wrote]
>> 
>> Actually, the proze-fighting usage I referred to is English...
>                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>My my my.  I do try to avoid fighting with proze, actually.
>
Me too.  I've wrestled with a verse form or two upon occasion,
but I won't fight proze.

---------------------  
 |\  | |\  |\  |// |
 | > | |\\ | \ |/  |   David Greenebaum/University of California/Berkeley, CA
 |<  | | \ |   |   |   dgreen@athena.berkeley.edu, dgreen@garnet.berkeley.edu
 | > | |   |   |   |
 |/  | |   |   |   |   "I make mistakes, but I am on the side of good -- by
---------------------  accident and happenchance." -- the Golux
From: microsoc@black.ox.ac.uk (Microsoc)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: I before E rule
Date: 10 Nov 92 11:44:27 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Service, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford, U
Originator: microsoc@black

In article <1dkpvkINNft9@uwm.edu> jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu writes:
>From article <1992Nov8.214004.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au>, by ccjal@cc.newcastle.edu.au (John A Lambert):
>> In article <1df1jcINNpr6@uwm.edu>, jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (John G Dobnick) writes:
>>> From article <1992Nov6.140630.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au>, by ccjal@cc.newcastle.edu.au (John A Lambert):
>>> 
>>>> The rule as I learned it 55 or so years ago was `I before E when the sound is
>>>> ee.'
>>> 
>>>   Weird!
>> 
>> 2. To me `weird' doesn't have a `ee' sound. It has thwe same vowel sound as
>> `weir' which is different from that in `believe'.
>
>Perhaps that's just because you 'Strines talk "funny"?  ;-) ;-)
>
>Weird does have the "ee" sound, to my ears at least.  In fact, I've never
>heard it pronounced otherwise.

Hmmm.. I think I know what John Lambert means... in weird (and weir) the
"ei" isn't a dipthong -- I (at least) pronounce them "wee-urd". That's
the difference between the "ei" here and the "ie" in "believe" -- it
isn't JUST the "ee" sound.... 

Hope that makes some sort of sense,

Marc Read
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Subject: Re: pop &c.
Reply-To: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:26:41 GMT

In article <199211.4867.7770@dosgate> "peter curran" <peter.curran@canrem.com> writes:
>
>When I was growing up, in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, it was always "soft
>drink."  But in the last ten years or so it seems to have become "pop."
>(Americans are everywhere - the country is going to the dogs.  :-))

"Soft drink" in New York is something that you'd only hear in commercials...
"Buy a Big Mac and a large fries and get a free 10 ounce soft drink!"  Seems
like it's a way to not offend the "soda" or "pop" crowd.


--
Gabe Wiener - Columbia Univ.     "This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings 
gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu       to be seriously considered as a means of 
N2GPZ in ham radio circles        communication. The device is inherently of
72355,1226 on CI$                 no value to us." -Western Union memo, 1877
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: jww@evolving.com (John W. Woolley)
Subject: Looking for a word
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 16:16:12 GMT
Organization: Evolving Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Is there a word in English for the two masks (representing tragedy and
comedy) hung on either side of the proscaenium?  Thank you.
-- 
Fr. John Woolley (jww@evolving.com); vastly enthusiastic about Augustine,
Austen, babies, Bach, backgammon, baseball, beer, the Bible, Botticelli, Burke,
Chesterton, Dante, Dixieland, hardboiled, Hitchcock, Dr Johnson, Latin, Mozart,
Shakespeare/de Vere, St Teresa, Tolkien, Trollope, Fats Waller, and Washington
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: viviana@igor.tamri.com (Vivian Aldridge)
Subject: Names for Nodes?
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 22:13:26 GMT

Newsgroups: rec.humor
Subject: I need your NODES.
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA
Keywords: 


*****A FAMILY OF NODES.
     PLEASE HIT RETURN
     FOR AN IMPORTANT
     MESSAGE.***********	
                               (####)
                            (#######)
                           (#########)
                          (#########)
                         (#########)
                        (#########)
                       (#########)
                      (#########)
                     (########)
   _____            (#########)>
  /     \          (#########)         |\/\/\/|     /\ /\  /\      
\/\/     |         (#########)         |      |     | V  \/  \---. 
 |  (o)(o)          (o)(o)(##)         |      |      \_        /   
 C   .---_)  +    ,_C     (##) =====   | (o)(o)       (o)(o)  <__. 
  | |.___|  +++  /____,   (##)         C      _)     _C         /  
  |  \__/    +     \     (#)   =====    | ,___|     /____,   )  \  
  /_____\           |    |              |   /         \     /----' 
 /_____/ \          OOOOOO             /____\          ooooo       
/         \        /      \           /      \        /     \      

-- 
Greetings,

We will be on the network pretty soon (a month
or so.) I have been asked to assign node names for 
departments and their members. 

I need suggestions for "family" names and the names of the members
that belong to
the family.  For example, software has chosen "sushi" as their
family name. The members are named after pieces of sushi such
as "uni" and "ebi." In turn these sushi names (nodes)
correspond to the user. In this case Sean is uni and Kevin
is ebi.

By the way the node name is limited to
five characters and punctuation marks are not allowed.
I need at least four family names with six members each.

Families I have thought of so far are:

Types of mental illness
Bugs
Animals
Candy
The Addams Family
Gangsters

Its harder to figure out the member names!

Thanks!!
Vivian

viviana@tamri.com
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: sds@henry.ece.cmu.edu (Sherwood D. Silliman)
Subject: Re: How're (was Re: The "education" ...)
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:34:13 GMT

In article <10354@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM> mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson) writes:
>In <Nov.8.01.27.37.1992.28853@romulus.rutgers.edu> clong@romulus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) writes:
>
>>In article <1dfu58INNgkh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, Richard A. Mulac writes:
>
>>> BZZZZT! Wrong.  *We're*, *you're*, *I'm*, *hasn't*, etc. are all "proper" 
>>> English contractions.  *How're* is NOT (pronounced "hower").
>
>>I find it completely bizarre that someone would suggest that "you're"
>>is a valid construct while at the same time claiming that "how're" isn't.
>
>Contractions are written down as they are, because that is how they are
>pronounced.
>
>You try it.
>There is a big difference between "you are" and "you're".  The first takes
>two syllables the second only one.
>
>Now try "how are" and "how're".  They are pronounced exactly the same.

I don't pronounce these two the same.  "How're" comes out more like "har."
But all this is really just an attempt to write down the idiosyncracies
of casual speech.  Here in Pittsburgh, one hears the question, "Jeet yet?"
to which the answer might be "No, ju?"  Translation: "Did you eat yet" and
"No, did you."
Contractions are casual by nature, so the whole idea of some contractions
seeming valid while some aren't (I've heard this one pronounced both
arnt and ar-ent) seems funny.

>
>The second is not a valid contraction because it doesn't buy you anything
>when you say it.
>
>-- 
>Mob rule doesn't become any prettier, just because the mob start to call itself
>a government.
>It ain't charity if you are using someone else's money.
>Mark.Wilson@AtlantaGA.NCR.com


-- 
Sherwood D. Silliman         "When I give food to the poor, they call me a
                              saint.  When I ask why the poor have no food,
                              they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: eepjm@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (Peter Moylan)
Subject: Re: mnemonics in general
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:01:45 GMT

In article <29OCT199216261065@adpdp2.lanl.gov>, 108116@adpdp2.lanl.gov (108116) writes:
> Ok guys!  What mnemonics do you all know?  The more unusual the better, I'll
> start you off:

Well, there's the one for remembering the first hundred or so digits
of pi.  It starts out as "God, I need a drink!"  Can't have been a
very good mnemonic, though: I've forgotten the rest.
-- 
Peter Moylan                      eepjm@wombat.newcastle.edu.au