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From: Jonas.Palm@orgk3.lu.se (Jonas Palm)
Subject: DAT Mail-list
Followup-To: rec.audio.pro
Organization: University of Lund, Sweden
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:19:20 GMT

I know that there exists (or has existed) a DAT mail-list.
If this list is still up and running, could somebody please
tell me how I go about being added to it?

If the person(s) who run this setup reads this, please feel free 
to include me immediately.

                                      Jonas Palm
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Turning pro - getting an audio-related job
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 07:07:15 GMT

In article <5762@gold.gvg.tek.com> chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris  
Christensen) writes:
> 
> All the above is good sense but this specific job was negoiated in
> good faith by my former business associate.  The other problem was
> that there was the two of us and a room full of head bangers.  I was
> unwilling to risk any other damage to equipment or person by pissing
> off the house......

Sounds like good judgement to me.  Sure you can try and
avoid such gigs - if they are obvious - beforehand, but
sometimes the shit just hits the fan and it's all you can do
to get out (with your gear intact, hopefully) in one
piece.  A few months ago the soundman who took over in a club
I vacated - because the promoter was booking heavier and
heavier thrash acts - was beaten badly by some skinheads
in the audience. 

--
Nathan Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu

Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: logan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Logan Shaw)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Re: Turning pro - getting an audio-related job
Date: 24 Dec 92 07:39:08 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin

In article <5752@gold.gvg.tek.com> chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen) writes:
  I (logan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu) originally wrote:
>>  I *don't* know how to convince singers to hold microphones correctly.
>
>No one does...........
>
>>  I'm not sure I can restrain myself from killing any performer who decides
>>to put the microphone down on top of the main speakers when exiting the
>>stage area.
>
>This is where I stop being flipant and get serious.......If this is
>your attidude then keep your day job and stay out of the audio
>business.......Yes I get pissed when a performer mistreates my
>equipment but I am forced to contain myself as best as I can.

Hmmm...  Maybe I should become a teacher - I could teach courses like "How
to Give the Wrong Impression".  I didn't mean to come off like I had an
attitude.  If someone throws a microphone (hypothetically, mind you, since
I don't actually own any microphones) off the stage, I'm likely to politely
ask them for the money after the show and then complain profusely to all my
friends afterwards.  I am more likely to have more restraint than I need
than I am to have less, which can get annoying if I'm getting bad service
in a restaraunt or something...

BTW, thanks for the advice, and maybe I should narrow my question a little
bit:  I don't have the spare money to go and buy lots of equipment, so what
kind of jobs does that leave me with?  How would I go about getting a job
that's somewhat steady, if possible?

Thanks again,
  Logan
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From: mow@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com (Mark Payne)
Subject: Compressors.. Auto Feature
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 10:58:10 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard Response Centre, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

More requests for gear advice.

I need another couple of compressors in my (expanding!) FOH rack. My only 
unit at this time is a SoundTech cheapie which I use to keep vocals under 
control. This usnit is the typical 1U dual comp.. with gate. The gate is uselesscause you cannot adjust the rate and its so S L O W in closing. 

My choice for another unit is the Beringer (no model sorry), the Drawmer LX20
and the Alesis 3060. 

The Beringer has no gate but it has an "Auto" feature. I have become quite 
happy with compressor adjustments but I'm into an easy life. I would like 
to hear opinions on "Auto" compressors.

The Alesis looks to have a good gate and I think I will go for this unless
peeps convince me on the Beringer.

Thanks for helping me to spend money..
Xref: sparky rec.audio.pro:2631 rec.music.synth:19606
From: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro,rec.music.synth
Subject: MicroSound Hard Disk Multitrack
Date: 23 Dec 1992 06:56:56 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
NNTP-Posting-Host: saturn.sdsu.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]


Do you know anything about the MicroSound hard disk recorder for the PC
sold by Micro Technology?  In particular, is it worth $4000, or is there
an alternative for, say, half the price?  I know about the Turtle Beach
stuff, but I don't think they have a comparable product.



Larry
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: "wayne kelso" <wayne.kelso@canrem.com>
Subject: satan soup
Reply-To: "wayne kelso" <wayne.kelso@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 29 Dec 92 01:59:20 EST

NOECHO

TO: dtsuji@scuacc.scu.edu

Dear Dave. My name is Wayne Kelso. I am forwarding this message to you 
from someone who does not have access to the Internet. He has posted his 
snail-mail address, however if it is more conveniant for you, you can 
forward your reply through me. 
My address is
 Wayne.Kelso@canrem.com
Thanks
 
Dear Dave, My name is Mark Shannon and I reside in Toronto Ontario. I 
downloaded a file, which you created, of a Madonna sample played in 
reverse to reveal a satanic message. There's no doubt that it appears to 
say what you claim it does. My interest in this type of thing goes back to 
the days of the Beatles, with their messages about Paul being dead, and 
later to Led Zeppelin, with the supposed satanic message in Stairway To 
Heaven. I reversed the later myself to see if it was true, and sure enough 
the word "satan" shows up around the lyrics 'It's just a spring clean for 
the may queen". Robert Plant said the the lyrics to that tune were written 
very fast, automatic writing style, as if he were in a trance. Could it 
have been satan that told him what to say, knowing that his forward vocals 
would carry a hidden praise in reverse?....oooh scary!!
The possiblity that  artists and producers actually spend time in the 
studio created masked messages is remote, in my opinion. Why? Because I 
make a living as a musician, and all my friends are musicians and yet I 
have never even heard a rumour of someone writing a line of lyrics that 
would create a hidden message in reverse. Something as big as this would 
have slipped out via an engineer or studio hand etc. I think the cause of 
such phenomenon is simple - it happens by accident. You can probably 
reverse any voice monologue and hear the word satan at some point. In the 
case of your Madonna example, I took the line "life is a mystery" and 
sampled myself singing it and then reversed it to find that it sounded 
like jibberish. It was just a coincidance that it came out the way it did 
with Madonna.
However, despite my scepticism, I am curious to know more about you and 
why you've taken up this charge. What religious group do you belong to?  
Do you think that all secular music is evil? Do you think that messages in 
reverse affect the mind? And if this reverse thing works why isn't it used 
to sell soap or politicians(or is it)?
Sincerely, Mark Shannon 25 Hallam St Toronto Ont M6G 1W1 CANADA

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From: dinesh@pyramid.COM (Dinesh Jalisatgi)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Need suggestions fro Mini-systems or desktop systems.
Date: 28 Dec 92 22:54:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: shadow.eng.pyramid.com

Hi,

 I am in the process of buying an mini-system or desktop system. My budget is

  around 300 to 500 dollars. Any suggestions as to which system to buy or what to

  look in the system. Any suggestions on the mail order also will be helpful.

 Please replay by email to dinesh@pyramid.com

 I will summarize if I get enough responses.

 Thanks.



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Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: eab@cbnews.cb.att.com (eugene.a.beer)
Subject: CD ROM drives reading audio CD's?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:30:00 GMT


Are there any PC CD ROM drives out there that will allow copying of audio CD's
to the hard disk under UNIX or DOS?  I realize an audio CD has no file
system set up on it, but I would like to be able to do
 
		cat < /dev/cdrom >filename 

and read  the raw bit stream from an *audio* CD (not a CD ROM with some audio
tracks on it!).  I don't know if a CD ROM has the same AES/EBU data
format as an audio CD (2-32bit words per frame containing left/right channels).
Even if a CD ROM didn't have the same word format, I would still think
it should be possible to read the raw bit stream from audio CD's.  Anybody know?
Please respond directly to me and I will post a summary.  Thanks..


				eugene beer eab@cbzoo.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: mow@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com (Mark Payne)
Subject: Alesis 1/3 Oct Graphic
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 10:36:31 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard Response Centre, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Yo Peeps,

I'm looking for opinions on the Alesis 1U, Stereo 1/3 Oct graphic. I'm looking
at buying one for my FOH rack. Having looked at the this I can say that the 
sliders are really naff and the thing is going to be hell to use in the dark
but thats the compromise for having the thing in 1U.

So what do you think. Is it quiet? Is it Clean? Good Headroom ? Please....
anybody got one ??

Please post or mail..

Mark
 
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I think you will find that HP are not, in any way involved in, influenced by
or responsible for opinions that I express here.... I think....
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Subject: Re: SD II
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 18:03:56 +0000

But, anyway, if Alchemy is history, that leaves me stuck, doesn't it?

>I'm pretty sure that SDII (at least my version) won't work without the
>Nubus card present.  I use to have SoundTools I and now I have AudioMediaII
>and both versions of SDII need the card to work. 

I'll think about SD-II *if* (i) I don't need the card and (ii) it'll talk
to a DPM-SP (or at least to a SMDI-capable sampler) via SCSI and (iii) any
MIDI hookup it attempts is via MIDI Manager. (i) is important because I
have an SE/30 and two PowerBooks. (ii) is important because that's what I
have. (iii) is important, even if I don't want to use SD-II MIDI, because I
use OMS, several MIDI programs at once, and MIDI Time Piece interfaces.

>The SDII software sells for about C$950 and the whole package including
>the AudioMedia II card and SDII sells for C$1450.  So for C$500 you get
>one hell of an amazing DSP/playback card if you look at it this way.

Sure, but it's no use to me, and I don't particularly want an onboard card
(even if any of my Macs could hold one); I'm more interested in live
performance, for which samplers are better suited.

>SDII (with the card) is light years better than Alchemy as far as DSP and
>speed goes.

which isn't difficult; I was underwhelmed at the processing options offered
by Alchemy.

>But Alchemy is better at keeping the mapping of samples
>straight.

which is a feature I haven't needed to use anyway.

                      Nick Rothwell  |  "Say, how many contemporary dancers
   CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance  |     are there in this bar?"
        cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk  |  "Dunno; count the Dr. Martens
        cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk  |     and divide by two..."
From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Re: What's the screen in front of the microphone in recording studio?
Date: 22 Dec 1992 23:29:27 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
NNTP-Posting-Host: grissom.larc.nasa.gov

In article <1992Dec22.221258.3282@guinness.idbsu.edu> Dave Jensen <djensen@claven.idbsu.edu> writes:
>
>BTW, You can make your own out of embroidery hoops and nylon hose.


Shh!  Shh!  Don't give away the secret!
--scott

Actually, hose works best if you tease the fibers out a little bit.  Use a
fine sandpaper on it.  It'll look ragged, but it works.  Use two layers.
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: kauff@neit.cgd.ucar.edu (Brian Kauffman)
Subject: Re: What do you charge for a night out?????
Organization: NCAR, Boulder CO
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:28:23 GMT

> drx@chinet.chi.il.us (Scott Whittle) writes:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Just curious concerning those who "do" sound for local talent (used loosly :) )
>What do you normally charge and for what services? Do you provide a pa and an
>engineer? Just rent the PA, just engineer? 

I don't do sound, but the standard rate around here (Denver/Boulder) is 
$150/night for a fairly meaty PA (24 ch) + boardperson suitable for the 
most popular local acts in a medium sized club (say, ~500 capacity).

-Brian
From: zbang@access.digex.com (Carl P. Zwanzig)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Re: Bodhran (and other) spot mics
Date: 4 Jan 1993 04:29:49 GMT
Organization: The Midnite Group
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

Just to throw kerosene into the fire...

My favorite arrangement for studio work is to have the bodhran player
face a small "wall" of RPG diffusers about 12 feet away, and put a
U-87 on figure-8 pattern midway between them. Try to kill most of the
other reflective surfaces in the studio.   This also works for "bones"
(the kind that you rattle), but there you need to watch closely for clipping.

For live performance, try a small pzm aimed in the general direction of
the bodhran.

Carl Zwanzig
zbang@access.digex.com
From: pete@q106fm.uucp (pete cervasio)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Astatic 960 mic - info needed.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 19:00:10 CST
Organization: WKBQ-FM Engineering Department

Hi, netfolks.  I just aquired (was given) an Atastic model 960
microphone.  It was surplus at a friend's radio station, and he won't
use it since they've already got an excess of EV RE-20's to use at
remotes and such.  For a free microphone, it doesn't sound bad.  A
little more upper midrange than my BK-1's but not bad.  Luckily, it was
kept stored in a nice metal mic box, and it's in like new condition.

Does anyone out there have a copy of the manufacturer's data sheet on
this mic that they could mail?  Anyone out there know just how old this
thing really is?

Thanks much!
Pete C.

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Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro,rec.music.synth
From: byrd@lucerne.rice.edu (Marc J Byrd)
Subject: Re: MicroSound Hard Disk Multitrack
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:09:59 GMT

In article <1h92joINN468@athena.sdsu.edu>, larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel) writes:
|> 
|> Do you know anything about the MicroSound hard disk recorder for the PC
|> sold by Micro Technology?  In particular, is it worth $4000, or is there
|> an alternative for, say, half the price?  I know about the Turtle Beach
|> stuff, but I don't think they have a comparable product.
|> 
|> 
From what I heard from technical support at Turtle Beach, the
only reason their product doesn't yet do direct to disk multi-
track recording is that they want to use the windows platform
(had anyone heard of this company before Windows Multimedia?).
When windows will handle multi-threading (like multi-tasking,
except with highly precise time alignment) the hardware will
support direct to disk multitrack recording (DDMR ?).

I believe Windows NT, due for release in the next few months,
handles multi-threading.  (By the time you get it and all its
required hardware and the turtle beach, you'll probably spend
about the same amount :^) .


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Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: WANTED: TASCAM TAP20
From: <GZDBB@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 30 Dec 1992 18:45:02 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

 I am looking for TASCAM TAP20.
         Gregory
From: mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Re: What's the screen in front of the microphone in recording studio?
Date: 23 Dec 92 03:43:36 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gvgspd.gvg.tek.com

In article <1h88cnINNb7f@rave.larc.nasa.gov>
                         kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.221258.3282@guinness.idbsu.edu>
>                             Dave Jensen <djensen@claven.idbsu.edu> writes:

>>BTW, You can make your own out of embroidery hoops and nylon hose.

>Actually, hose works best if you tease the fibers out a little bit.

I use tissue paper (you know: Kleenex(tm)).  It seems more acoustially
transparant, and has the added benefit of being more convenient to replace
after some slob expectorates all over it.  (I just hate having to buy hose
for this, but not as much as I hate buying Tampax(tm) ;-)  This brings me to
the other function of these screens:  They prevent spittle from acumulating
on one's precious mics!

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From: stuart@spss.com (Stuart Schmukler)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Noise Canceling
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:45:18 GMT
Organization: SPSS Inc.

I have heard that there are devices that can process sound and
generate a canceling sound wave downstream.  Does anyone know were I
can find information about these devices?

Stuart
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Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: antonp@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: Re: What's the screen in front of the singers>..
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 23:22:18 GMT



Those windscreens also shield the mics from the
singer's inevitable spit projections...

I gotta insist that a coat hanger and a pair of panty hose
is a lot easier to buy/make than cleaning your
diaphragms on a daily basis...


pete anton
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 20:18:00 EST
From: <SRJ102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Help! Speaker/power amp question

     Hi all,
              I'm thinking of plugging some old speakers of unknown specs
       into a 40 watt power amp that says WARNING 8 ohms minimum.

 Is this stupid of me?  Whether it's stupid, will it work without breaking/rui
ning/blowing up anything?

             Please let me know, 'cause I'm itchin' to just try it...

                     Please reply via Email, so as not to waste others' time/sp
ace...
                Thanks in advance...

                                       Scott
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: tjdalton@athena.mit.edu (Transitive NightFall of Diamonds)
Subject: Re: DAT Mail-list
Followup-To: alt.flame
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:46:39 GMT

Jonas.Palm@orgk3.lu.se (Jonas Palm) writes:
>I know that there exists (or has existed) a DAT mail-list.
>If this list is still up and running, could somebody please
>tell me how I go about being added to it?

The service address is:  dat-heads-request@fuggles.acc.virginia.edu

All requests for addition/deletion/address change should be send there.

	Tim
From: system@hale.cts.com (System Administration)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Analog Fiberoptic Links (?)
Date: 2 Jan 93 10:39:48 GMT
Organization: Hale Telecommunications Inc.


Does such a beast exist commerically?

I made one some time ago using IR diodes just as a hobby experiment.

Here's what I'm trying to do:  (At least in theory...)

I designed a large (read huge) subwoofer system for use in movie
theaters or really insane private systems to be placed behind the screen
and firing through it with a -3db point of 18 Hz or so rated at 
1000 watts.  (Pretty neat huh?)

I want to use an alternate method to get a linelevel signal there
with the amplifier behind the screen as well as losses on the run
from a projection booth to behind the screen are too high and the
run of quality cable gets expensive quick.

Other ideas I'be been tinkering with are radio (interference prone),
10Ghz analog gunplexer (Bit expensive for a single mono channel of 
audio), optical transmission sans cable (Donno about potential 
interference with inversion layers from heating and cooling systems or 
potential interference from the heat and light of a commercial projector 
at the recieveing end [as it would have to face the booth])

Point to point cabling I'd guesstimate the run path to be 350+ feet,
ideas?


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