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From: caper@bnr.ca (Joe Smith)
Subject: Re: Elevator DEATH!
Reply-To: caper@bnr.ca (Joe Smith)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 14:41:39 GMT

stirling@ozrout.uucp (Stirling Westrup) writes :

>The last time this discussion came up, someone actually had
>newspaper clippings that they quoted from and stuff, and I'm doing it all
>by memory, but here goes anyway:
>
>In recent years, there have been two elevator fatalities in Canada.  They
>happend about 6 months appart, one in Toronto and one in Montreal.  The one
>in Montreal involved an elevator which suddenly dropped one floor while a
>man was stepping into it.  He was almost cut in half by the roof of the
>falling car, and died instantly.  I think his wife was right behind him and
>witnessed the whole thing.  The incident in Toronto was siimilar.

I believe that the incidents that you are talking about both occured in Ottawa, not
Toronto and Montreal.

The incident with the man occured in the Lord Elgin hotel and the way I heard it was
that the poor guy was pretty much decapitated (as you describe) in front of his wife
who was already on the 'vator.

The second accident occured a few months later in an apartment building ( before I 
moved into the building :-X ) and a girl was caught in the doors and more or less cut
in half.

These accidents were brought up in the media about a month ago because a provincial
govt. auditor revealed that there were so few elevator inspections in Ontario that 
some of 'vators in the province could be primed for accidents.


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From: sweeney@Ingres.COM (Tony Sweeney)
Subject: Re: Coors rumors (Re: Snapple linked to KKK, Operation Rescue?)
Reply-To: sweeney@Ingres.COM (Tony Sweeney)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Distribution: world,local
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:13:01 GMT

In article <r9h3-zn@rpi.edu> kollur@jec328.its.rpi.edu (Ramana Kolluri) writes:
> 
>My question: What are these "supposed sins" of Coors Brewing Company?
>Anyone out there know anything ?
>
Well  there's bankrolling the Republican Party, for a start off.
That and passing off the swill thy sell as beer.

>Ramana
>

Tony "Brewed in the Rockies - from piss" Sweeney.
From: mike@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu (Mike Vevea)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Bambi meets Godzilla.
Keywords: bambi cute roadkill
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:09:13 GMT
Organization: Mass General Hospital NMR Imaging Center

There have been several articles which point out that the vast majority of
the credits in Bambi Meets Godzilla were of the form:
    xxxxx                 by Marv Newland
(or whatever his name was).  In fact, as I recall, all but one were like
that.  But noone has noted the one significant exception, which read:
    Marv Newland          by his mother

I loved it!

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: lawson@acuson.com (Drew Lawson)
Subject: Re: Kimo Sabe
Reply-To: lawson@aldia.UUCP (Drew Lawson)
Organization: ACUSON, Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 21:54:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.012146.19941@samba.oit.unc.edu> Bruce.Tindall@launchpad.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall) writes:
>In article <fX7#1BO@quack.sac.ca.us> pharvey@quack.sac.ca.us (Paul Harvey) writes:
>>ObUL: What is the origin of the name: Qui-mo (Kimo) Sabe?

>he had heard: It's a slight mispronunciation of Spanish "que no sabe,"
>"he who knows not," i.e. "ignoramus."  Which would be only fair, since

Actually, the attempted explanation I had heard tagged it as a
mutilation of "Quien lo sabe," or, "He who knows."

Of course, I had also heard that the original author just thought it
sounded like a good "injun" phrase.  It was hardly deeply researched
literature.


Drew "Kibo sabe" Lawson
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From: andyh@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andy Holyer)
Subject: Re: John Denver
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:21:06 GMT

In article <930125223134.12c2@VAX.CSUN.EDU> VBCSC03L@VAX.CSUN.EDU (snopes) writes:
> carolo@cse.ucsc.edu (Carol Osterbrock) . . .
>
>>> Can any other readers out there verify that John Denver was a U.S. Army 
>>> sniper?
>
>> Gee, back in, ummm, mumble, when I was a teenybopper and John Denver
>> first became a star, I remember reading in 16 Magazine about him, and
>> he *was* in the army.  It would have been in the early-mid sixties,
>> I think, coz he got started in show biz around 1968 or 9 or so, so
>> he *could* have gone to Vietnam. 
>
>  Sorry, no shergolds will be awarded this one.  John Henry Deutschendorf
>  left his family home in New Mexico when he was 20 (in 1964), moved to
>  Los Angeles, joined the Chad Mitchell Trio, and changed his name to John
>  Denver.  He was with the Chad Mitchell Trio from 1965-68 before launching
>  his own career as a singer/songwriter in the late 60's.  It's possible he
>  did a short stint in the army from 1962-64, but I couldn't find anything
>  to confirm it, and it's even less likely that he would have spent that
>  time in Vietnam.
>
On the subject of John Denver, is this one a UL? It's never occurred to
me to question it, which tends to imply that it might be.

But for Ronald Reagan's personal intervention, Jonh Denver would have been
the extra crew member on the shuttle Challenger instead of Crista MacAulliffe
(sp?)... 

Andy "Damn, missed!" Holyer


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From: slb3y@cc.usu.edu (Punk Rocketeer)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Rabbit (was Doggie) Doo-Doo
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:03:52 MDT
Organization: Omega:  The Final Solution

In article <H.eg.qLMhXjlht8Y@harvee.billerica.ma.us>,
scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator) writes:
> a veterinarian told me that gerbils eat their own feces because there are
> certain nutrients they can't utilise the first time through.  he said that
> cleaning their cages too often could lead to malnutrition.
> 
> i've heard the dreaded "somewhere" that rabbits have a similar problem.]

     Gerbils, I wouldn't know.  I've never kept them as pets, since
they don't live long in the duct tape.  OTOH, several years ago my
family raised rabbits.  We kept them in cages suspended several feet
off the ground - about eye level on a human.  The wire cage floors let
the droppings fall through nicely.  They only got to eat their feces
if they left some in the food bins.  Sadly, none ever died from
malnutrition as a result.

Patrick "rabbits make good targets" Clark
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Email is life!   |  8,000-pound roadrunner from hell."
Usual disclaimer | Bob Bakker in A&E's _Dinosaur_ series
From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: AFU WEST V - TAKE II
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:09:37 GMT
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

Quoting a part of what I wrote in an earlier post:

  +>SOME POSSIBLE VIRGINS:
  +>
  +>   Brian Leibowitz
  +>   Bill Maccauley

pynq@midway.uchicago.edu writes:

  +Is Bill going to bring his $10,000 ?

There's only one way to find out.......


Terry "AFU WEST V:  Be there.  Or be somewhere else." Chan
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From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: Drug Addicted Infants
Organization: NYSERNet, Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:24:54 GMT

In <1993Jan20.162151.3331@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> ashall@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Andrew S Hall) writes:

    So, we have about 73,00 babies/year that are addicts and another
    at least 50,000 that are ritually sacrificed and an unspecified
    number that are kidnapped and sold into slavery and others that
    are put in ovens by stoned hippie bay sitters and ...

    My question: why is our population still increasing?

That'd be the eight year old girls, Andrew.
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From: hleaves@gems.vcu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Elevator DEATH!
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:17:40 -0400
Organization: Medical College of Virginia

In article <1993Jan17.162511.16813@sq.sq.com>, msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) writes:
>> But while no deaths in recent memory from what people think of as normal
>> elevator functions, we HAVE had quite a few elevators fall at a rapid
>> enough rate of descent to lead to some pretty serious injuries. ...
> 
> Hmm, didn't I post about this here only a few months ago?  There was
> an accident here in Toronto in recent years, where the drive shaft broke
> on a construction elevator and left it with no power or brakes.

I thought that elevator brakes weren't electrically operated. Dont they just
work on centripetal force or somthing similar? What other safety features are
implemented on modern elevators?

> Since
> there were only two men in it, but the counterweight was still connected,
> it fell *up*.  When it hit the top, one occupant was killed and the other
> seriously injured.
> 

All these elevator deaths sound truly chilling. I can just imagine that sinking
feeling in my stomach as the elevator went to a 1G acceleration. Seeing those
floor numbers spin by.. 5.. 4.. 3.. 2.. 1.. 

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From: tweek@netcom.com (Michael D. Maxfield)
Subject: Re: Mnemonics
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:04:11 GMT

In article <7oa1VB4w165w@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz> system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall) writes:
>schamber@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Sylvain Chamberland) writes:
>
>> In article <6u8mVB1w165w@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz> system@codewks.nacjack.gen.n
>> >Only problem is that this is wrong. Pluto is closer to the sun that Neptune.
>> 
>> You're kidding!!!!!
>
>> 
>> Where did you get that???
>
>It's a well known scientific fact.
>
>> 
>> I'm no astronomer, but back in high school, people told me Pluto is the
>> 9th planet and was discovered only because of ambiguities in Neptune's
>> orbit...

So was I, but being born in the 60's I've grown accustomed to the fact that
people and planets move around, never staying in the same place for their
entire life.  ( :) x 10 )

I can imagine the guys surprise at this statement though.  When I went through
science class in school, I was told the same thing.  Imagine my
shock/disbelief/surprise when I was told otherwise.  Poor guy,  the universe
has pulled a mean trick on us people who learned astronomy before [darn! I
don't have the date handy].  

Hey, anyone know when Pluto becomes #7 and Uranus becomes #8?  From looking
at this chart (unfortunately it's in a geography book) it looks like the 
duration between Neptune's and Uranus' orbit is only about 20 degrees of 
Plutos orbit so with a oribital revolution of 248 years, it seems like it 
should be very soon.  (or is that just a imaginary effect from them trying
to locate Pluto's orbit on the same plane as the rest of the solar system???)

Darn! I wish I had a decent starchart handy to check this out.  It's gotta
be the way it's drawn.... but then again, maybe I might be able to start an
UL with this diagram.

       tweek@netcom.com  tweek@tweekco.uucp  WWIVNet 5@5058  4@5056 
          I'd rather get my cable service from the phone company,
                than my phone service from the cable company.


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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: AFU EAST
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 19:45:52 GMT

In article <C15xK6.F7n@polaris.async.vt.edu> jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (Joel Furr) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.141140.5333@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>In article <C15M20.D3C@polaris.async.vt.edu> jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (Joel Furr) writes:
>>>
>>>I propose AFU EAST should be held sometime in March, preferably around the
>>>15th, in Pittsburgh.  Anyone interested?
>>
>>That's the middle of finals for me.  
>>
>>When or where is AFU Midwest?
>
>Well, Ted, we can be flexible.  How's mid-February?  Say, Saturday,
>February 20, 1993?  

Furrfu, is a.f.u going to rent a Concorde so we can get the whole
bicoastal thing going?

(And, hell, don't everybody mess up all these a.f.u. conventions on
my behalf.)

>Pittsburgh has Terries, so that would be a good place
>to meet for me.  Any other comments?

Pittsburgh also has a Nigel, so I should even have a place to stay.  Maybe
I'll just auction my appearance to the highest bidder.  Coase Theorem and
all that.  (Then again, there *is* the problem of the commons... Hmm, maybe
everybody should just send me two-fifty so I can afford to pull this off.)

Who's going to be in Pittsburgh?  California has two Terries *and* a 
vanderlinden...

Ted "decisions, decisions" Frank
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: lawson@acuson.com (Drew Lawson)
Subject: Re: coriollis effect and Foucalt pendulums (and the UN)
Reply-To: lawson@aldia.UUCP (Drew Lawson)
Organization: ACUSON, Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 20:33:03 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.031527.3768@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:

>There is not a pendulum in Columbus, as far as I know.  Does anybody
>know any other significant cities W/O one?

Does anyone know anybody famous who hasn't seen a foucalt pendulum?


>ObBYUUL:  BYU has the worlds largest collection of dinosaur fossils
>beneath its football stadium.

It's better than Jimmy Hoffa.


>Jon "Factoids R US" Papai


Drew "quote:  under construction" Lawson
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lawson@acuson.com                you're part of the precipitate
From: dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Aids in pizza
Date: 28 Jan 93 05:55:54 GMT
Organization: Pacific ESI, Sydney, AUSTRALIA
X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?"
X-Witty-Saying: "Mobius strip - see other side for instructions"

In article <93019.074149MBADBH@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>,
    MBADBH@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com (David B. Horvath, CDP) writes:

|    ICBM - ICBM missle - Inter-Contential Balistic Missle missle
|    HARM - HARM missle - High Speed Anti-Radiation Missle missle (anti-radar)

Ever notice how Americans spell "missile" as "missle" ?

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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Coca Cola dissolves meat?
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:12:03 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.042811.11513@nezsdc.icl.co.nz> derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
>I know a guy in South Africa who uses Coca Cola to marinate meat for Braais<tm>
>(barbeques to the rest of us).  He leaves the meat in Coke overnight and it 
>becomes very nice and tender.  It tastes surprisingly nice too and not at all
>like chicken.  
>
>The meat is very definately still there.
>
>Derek "Will eat for food" Tearne

I have it on good authority that the world-famous Luther's chain BBQ sauce
is made by mixing the standard Kraft-from-a-bottle with Coca-Cola fountain
syrup.  Just so you know.

Ted "so far north that they spell BBQ with eight letters" Frank 
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: bml@netcom.com (Brian Leibowitz)
Subject: Re: Cheap Foreign Coins Fool Parking Meters
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:02:26 GMT

About 10 or 15 years ago, the Connecticut Turnpike had tokens that worked in
the NY Subway (costing about 15 cents as opposed to 85 cents if my memory
is workng today-unlikely).  There were many threats of lawsuits and blame
laying.

The minting company was supposed to do a size check and they claimed that the
NY subway machines were at fault for not being sensitive enough to the
difference.

NY threatened to sue to force CN to change the tokens (very expensive)

CN threatened to sue the minting company.

and many more...

NY started watching the turnstyles and many Businessmen in three piece suits
were arrested and charged.  (the photos of this were great newspaper fodder)

After a few months of politicians and lawyers threatening eveyone, something
was changed, but I forget what happened.  (Does anyone remember?  I think it
was a case of it being cheaper to fix it than sue so they settled.)

NY later started using the tokens with a center portion that is steel and
magnetic (I assume the detector has two magnetic material checks-one for the
center that must be positive and one at the edge that must be negative.
Either that or it produces a weight that doesn't corespond to any one
material slug or coin.)
Also, the tolls on the CN turnpike were later eliminated. (a rare event)

Brian "Where did the practice of putting comments here originate?" Leibowitz

Addendum: 
One of the small French coins works (or did a few years ago) in the Boston
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From: smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re: Cuttin' the Rug
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 13:50:58 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1993Jan24.035429.21288@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Bruce.Tindall@launchpad.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall) writes:
> In article <1993Jan23.161915.17645@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
> > It is certainly true (or at least folklore) that
> >the Amish do this with their quilts.  But because of God, not
> >Allah in their case.
> 
> OK, thanks, I hadn't ever heard that about the Amish.  Interesting.
> And indeed, the Amish don't call the big guy "Allah."  But Jews and
> Christians who speak Arabic do call him that.  Source:  "A History of
> the Arab Peoples," can't remember the author

Albert Hourani, who just died a couple of days ago.  He had the good
fortune to publish his book just when the Persian Gulf was an Issue,
so the book became a best-seller.
From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (Jeremy Mathers)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: AFU WEST V - TAKE II
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:42:13 GMT
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates

In article <28611@dog.ee.lbl.gov> TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
...
>   snopes
>   Peter van der Linden 
>
>SOME POSSIBLE VIRGINS:
>
>   Brian Leibowitz
>   Bill Maccauley

Is Bill going to bring his $10,000 ?

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From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Tuition Refund
Date: 24 Jan 93 14:38:27 GMT
Reply-To: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
Organization: University of Durham

I seem to remember at UC Santa Cruz that if your roommate died you would receive an
automagic pass for the year, and if they killed themselves you got something better than a
pass.  Of course, I could be completely wrong.

Scott 

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From: lawson@acuson.com (Drew Lawson)
Subject: Remote Meter Reading (Re: Coke Machines)
Reply-To: lawson@acuson.com (Drew Lawson)
Organization: ACUSON, Mountain View, CA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:57:00 GMT

In article <C17q04.zur@austin.ibm.com> jlpicard@austin.ibm.com writes:
>
>Dunno about coke machines (most canteen operations I've seen pay
>one or more people to make the rounds of the machines, check them,
>fix them, refill them, etc), but I understand that power companies
>around the country are starting to install remotely readable power
>meters at distant/hard-to-get-to places. Apparently these things
>connect to the phone line and automatically modem in every so often
>with the latest power readings. In some cases, this is lots more
>cost-effective than paying someone to climb your fence to read 
>your meter.


And not just remote places.

The house that I lived in until last year in Springfield, VA
(Washington, DC suburbs) had the gas meter in the basement.  About a
year before I moved, they installed a new box of some sort on it and
never came in again.  With the box installed, they can read the meter
from the comfort of the van sitting on the street out front.

I suppose the meter readers (those who still have jobs) appreciate this
on cold rainy days.


ObUL: remotely read gas meters steal data from your hard disk and send
      it to Prodigy


Drew "I mean, who wants to be in your basement when you have gas" Lawson
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