From: wengland@stephsf.com (Bill England)
Subject: Re: Seattle Newsgroups (was CFD: seattle.misc)
    <klg.715279663@statsci> <BtxMrt.MyK@kimbro.uucp>
Distribution: seattle
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 22:23:08 GMT
Organization: Stephen Software Systems Inc., Tacoma/Seattle, +1 800 829 1684
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In article <BtxMrt.MyK@kimbro.uucp> briank@kimbro.Celestial.COM writes:
>[...]
>There is more than just article count to be considered here.
>
>As Bill England keeps pointing out, seattle general is distributed
>to more than 10 percent (if I remember correctly) of all usenet
>sites.  I did a sendsys to seattle distribution and got back 3/4
>of a meg in sys files.  Many were from way outside the pnw area.
>Quite a few were from Europe.  For their own reasons, a lot of
>people seem to want to keep in touch with *our* :-) region.
>

  Not to keep beating a dead horse but, here is a new extract
  of Brian Rieds news group distribution summary.  I've also
  added some ba (Bay Area) news groups to the list for comparison.

  It appears that seattle is much less popular than some other
  so called "local" distributions.  

  However notice that seattle has more "Readers" than some
  ba newsgroups with better propagation.

  Also, note that pnw.foresale does not do nearly as bad as I 
  thought in terms of number of readers or distribution.

  On negative notes the crossposting percentage to seattle.general
  seems a bit high.  

-----  EXTRACT FOLLOWS  Sorted by Number of readers -----
>Newsgroups: news.lists
>From: reid@decwrl.DEC.COM (Brian Reid)
>Subject: USENET Readership report for Aug 92 
>Message-ID: <1992Sep3.051010.4126@PA.dec.com>
>
        +-- Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
        |     +-- Actual number of readers in sampled population
        |     |     +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
        |     |     |      +-- Recent traffic (messages per month)
        |     |     |      |      +-- Recent traffic (kilobytes per month)
        |     |     |      |      |      +-- Crossposting percentage
        |     |     |      |      |      |    +-- Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr
        |     |     |      |      |      |    |      +-- Share: % of newsrders
        |     |     |      |      |      |    |      |   who read this group.
        V     V     V      V      V      V    V      V
 179  60000  1303   19%   174   319.4    29%  0.00   2.4%  ba.jobs.offered
 256  51000  1108   21%   587   568.1    28%  0.01   2.1%  ba.market.misc
 375  42000   901   22%   311   445.2    19%  0.01   1.7%  ba.general
 402  40000   867   21%   423   448.2    25%  0.01   1.6%  ba.market.computers
 440  38000   816   16%    35    54.1    15%  0.00   1.5%  ba.jobs.misc
 433  38000   821   17%    16    28.5     0%  0.00   1.5%  ba.announce
 614  30000   641   18%   326   378.9    11%  0.01   1.2%  ba.market.housing
 666  27000   594   19%   438   597.0     7%  0.01   1.1%  ba.food
 699  26000   568   18%   391   340.7    16%  0.01   1.1%  ba.market.vehicles
 721  25000   543   20%   137   215.5    23%  0.00   1.0%  ba.music
 780  23000   488   20%   120   141.2     8%  0.00   0.9%  ba.singles
 770  23000   497   14%   136   497.7    28%  0.01   0.9%  pnw.general
 781  22000   485   10%   333   580.9    43%  0.01   0.9%  seattle.general

  This is us ^^^^^  ... PNW.GENERAL Wins by 1K readers!   :-)

 835  20000   441   12%   129   125.8    23%  0.00   0.8%  pnw.forsale

  PNW.FORSALE actually has better propagation than seattle.general.
  I'd guess that trying to sell in p.f would get better results
  than in s.g   (Goes further, less clutter ) ...

 881  19000   404   16%    46   173.2     0%  0.00   0.7%  ba.internet
 869  19000   413   21%   504  1038.0    22%  0.03   0.8%  ba.politics
 915  18000   381   20%    26    91.5    56%  0.00   0.7%  ba.seminars
 927  17000   375   18%   102   188.0     8%  0.01   0.7%  ba.sports
 924  17000   377   21%   109   155.4    10%  0.01   0.7%  ba.motss

  PDX groups pretty much come in last ...   

1129  11000   238   10%   156   156.1    25%  0.00   0.4%  pdx.forsale
1166   9900   215    9%    62    85.9    21%  0.00   0.4%  pdx.general
1464   4500    98    7%     2     1.2    50%  0.00   0.2%  pdx.music
1672   2500    54    6%     1     1.7     0%  0.00   0.1%  pdx.utek

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