From: sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Females have it easy!
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:37:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Dec18.151557.24143@rchland.ibm.com> bill@tran.fishkill.ibm.com () writes:
>In article <1grgmiINNq52@agate.berkeley.edu>,
>monaghn@garnet.berkeley.edu (Mara Monaghan) writes:
>> 
>> In article <1992Dec17.154039.14407@cbfsb.cb.att.com>,
>> > sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein) writes:
>> >
>> > In other words, women may have to deal with 20 men
>> > before she is approached by one she's attracted to,
>> > whereas we could luck out after the 8th or 9th approach.
>> > 
>> 
>> First a quibble about your choice of words:
>> I think of "deal" as having a negative connotation.
>> (My Webster's dictionary defines this usage as:
>> "to take action with regard to someone or something,
>> ex. to deal with an offender").
>> *I* don't use "deal" when I referring to people
>> because I don't like the cold image it projects.

Not to quibble myself, but as stated in your definition:

"to take action with regard to someone or something"
                               ^^^^^^^^
When I or a woman is approached, of course we "deal" with that
person or situation.  The experience could be positive/negative.

>> Back to the matter at hand:
>> (I do hope you're not serious, but if you are...)

I am.

>> Your generalizations are inaccurate for
>> the "average woman.  This is, of course,
>> my humble opinion and is based on my own 
>> past experience and that of my friends.
>> (BTW I am including our years as college
>> students).  None of us would make the 
>> cover of Vogue, but we are attractive,
>> intelligent women.
>> 
>> So if your generalization is wrong
>> (re: weekly offers) and the women you
>> "approach" are not overwhelmed with other
>> offers, why are you having to approach 8
>> or 9 women before you "luck out" ?

Not all women have the same taste as the men who might be interested
in them.

>Time out, here. Mara, your observations are based on your experiences,
>as Steve's are on his. Maybe the dating situation (and general social
>protocal ?) are vastly different where each of you live. Where I live
>here, most of my female friends are approached at LEAST once or twice a
>week. A friend of mine lives in Wisconsin, and she hasen't been asked
>out or apporached in months. Don't bash the guy until you understand his
>local dating climate.

Exactly !!!!
>
>> (BTW, what do you mean by "approaching",
>> "luck out", and "offers"? Just curious)

Approaching:  Confronting someone with the hopes of gaining information
about them and who the are through enjoyable conversation and as an end
result.....

Lucking out:  Having this person develop an interest in finding out more
about me and who I am and accepting any......

Offers:  I might make such as giving me their phone number, joining
me for dinner, drink, late night snack, or joining me at a nearby
hotel for a night of wild, sensuous, hot and steamy sex.

>> I think this ties into my earlier comment
>> about the technique being inappropriate for
>> the women involved.  Are you trying get to
>> know them or just pick 'em up?

Really depends on how much they weigh.  

(Seriously, if you knew me, you would know my primary goal is to get
to know a woman and develop a close, mutually fullfilling and warm
relationship.)

That should take up the first 2 or 3 hours.  Then onto my secondary
goal.......hot and steamy sex the rest of the night
.
>> >               Steve Stein  (609) 639-2264
>> >  *******************************************************
>> >  *  Just my opinion, though it could change tomorrow   *
>> >  *******************************************************         
>
>bill the cat....