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From: rmaeda@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Maeda)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Kings new alias?
Date: 25 Jul 92 20:49:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Jul25.090908.23550@engage.pko.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place) writes:
>King has used only one other (than Bachman) pseudonym in his life. A
>couple of his short stories were by-lined "John Swithen", but he owned

I think there was only one, "The Fifth Quarter," later reprinted
under SK's own name in Twilight Zone.

>The misattribution was for a science fiction novel from Laser Books.
>Can't recall the title off-hand, but the author was "Aaron Wolfe".

Invasion.



ed



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From: kmrobert@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kevin Roberts)
Subject: Re: Gerald's Game (was re: psychological)
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 21:07:11 GMT

The question was raised about wether any King females had lives of their own, ie
not centered around their man. The female lead in 'Salems Lot was a painter
even before the stroy started. True she didn't live long enough for us
to find out too much about her but I think what we saw let us know she
wasn't going to live around a man.

The main charectar in Tommyknockers (if I recall correctly)
was a female writer who lived on her own. No man to live for.


Female lead in Dead Zone had her own life but we just didn't see it because
the story was about Johnny(correct?) and she didn't play that big a role
in his life after he came back...

I think the main reason you do not find too many strong female charectars
in King books is because you don't find too many female charectars.
Especially which are the lead of the book. Most of his main charectars are men
and thus the woman are shunted a little. It is not neccesary but he does it.
I wouldn't say that this is due to something has against woman but rather
that being a man, King has more of an inside view to the mans perspective


kmr
From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: The Hand with Michael Caine
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:36:16 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <w6cmp8p.bagus@netcom.com> bagus@netcom.com (Mark E. Ruedy) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.101801.13975@husc3.harvard.edu> alvalent@husc9.harvard.edu (Alvin Valentine) writes:
>>
>>Anyone seen this baby?  I was wondering whether it is completely lame or what.

It is a very funny movie, from what I remember! The old "hand in the back seat
trick" (back there with Victor Pascow). Memorable!
		Laurel

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From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Faerie Tale
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:48:13 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Jul29.115554.7197@linus.mitre.org> m13079@mwunix (Mary Anne Walters) writes:
>So, can anyone identify what I'm referring to? :-)  If so, can you comment
>on other books by him and the quality of them? Recommendations?
>
   I wouldn't have posted this, but the address in your header is not
   useful for replying.  You should get your sysop to fix this, if you
   want to receive mail in response to your posts.

   The book in question is by Raymond Feist, who also wrote the _Magician_
   series.  These were good books (IMO), much better than _Faerie Tale_,
   which I actively detested (again, IMO).  Along with Jamie Wurtz (I
   think that's right, forgive me if I'm off) he's written two books
   taking place in the same universe as the Magician series, 
   called _Servant of the Empire_ and _Daughter of the Empire_.
   I think these are excellent although quite different from the 
   Magician trilogy; the differences can probably be attributed to
   Wurtz's influence, which I think raises the degree of sophistocation
   of the writing. 
   
   These books are more fantasy/science fiction, than horror.

   Wayne
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From: lintz@buster.cis.udel.edu (Brian Lintz)
Subject: Re: SK's Dark Tower series
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:23:31 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.200039.13688@njitgw.njit.edu> rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich) writes:
>In article <1992Jul17.182949.9771@mach4.wlu.ca> brea9430@mach4.wlu.ca (breadner kenneth cecil joseph u) writes:
>>B
>>>	The Overlook is also in the end of The Stand where it is described
>>>almost perfectly.  It's the hotel where Stu stays on his way back.
>>>
>>i Wait a second. The Overlook BURNT. And it's confirmed in MISERY that it
>>didn't just regenerate--it's referred to as a burnt-out shell!
>>
>>Ken
>	Well, this seems pretty pointless to me.  The events in the Stand are
>said to take place in the early to mid-80's.  Besides, tho King's works 
>reference each other, it isn't necessarily true that they all take place in
>the same space-time continuum.  The chronology of the books is almost 
>unfathomable, as the events in the Stand must lie in the future, yet we
>see it is supposed to occur in the 80's, which have passed.  I say it's just
>an interesting bit of trivia and not meant to be analyzed, especially given
>that King worked on most of his books at the same time.
>
>							Ray

In the uncut version of _The Stand_, the events take place in the early
90's. If S.K. would stop writing all but _Dark Tower_, you could put
them all in one continuum. Everything set in the "normal" world takes
place before _The Stand_; _Eyes of the Dragon_ and _Dark Tower_ take
place after _The Stand_. 

Brian Lintz
lintz@udel.edu
From: mikey.lo@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu (Mike Loux)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Lists and such
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:30:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA


>Yes, pretty good. Do you like horror anthologies? Have you read "Four Past
>Midnight" (S. King)? The stories in it are basically adventure horror and it
>seems that you would enjoy it. I just received a shipment of books yesterday
>from the Science Fiction Book Club including "Horror Hall of Fame". I just
>joined the SFBC, but have been with Mystery Guild for a long time now. Both
>clubs seem to have at least a few different horror books available each month.
>Have you read Rice's other vampire books ("Interview with the Vampire" and
>"Queen of the Damned")? All good books! Later!
>			Laurel

I've read pretty much everything King ever wrote (including The Dark 
Tower, which I LOVED!), except for Gerald's Game, which I haven't gotten
around to reading yet.  I loved FPM, esp. The Library Policeman.  Actually, 
All of his short story anthologies are good.

Hmm, do you remember an older anthology called Night CHills by Robert Bloch?
That was pretty good...

-The Silver Rainmaker 

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From: tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen)
Subject: Re: Scariest Horror Movie
Organization: Finnish Academic and Research Network, FUNET
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 13:14:15 GMT

In article <3377@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan) writes:
>
>No, The Langoliers was not really horror per se, but I found it scary
>nonetheless. I never read the actual story They're Creeping Up On You, but I
>saw it in "Creepshow" and thought it was deliciously creepy. There's nothing
>more creepy for me than thinking something is crawling on me! Did you see
>"Creepshow"? Those stories are really cool. There is also a sequel which was
>not as good as the first one, but was still pretty good!

I haven't ever seen the actual story to any of those Creepshow stories
- but I have seen them in a comic book.
I liked all of those stories in Creepshow except the one where that
someone comes out of grave (don't remember its name just now...). The
Lonesome Death of Jordy Verrill was great - and Stevie-boy is sooooooo
funny in his movies :-). Do you know in which movies he appears? I
know these ones:
- Pet Sematary
- Creepshow
- Maximum Overdrive
- Sleepwalkers

I haven't yet found the sequel to Creepshow but will get it as soon as
I find it.

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From: mikey.lo@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu (Mike Loux)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Robert Macammond (sp??)
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:15:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA

In article <3998@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan) writes:
>
>Welcome to alt.horror! What other authors do you like to read? 
>				Laurel
>

Hmm.  Well, while my tastes run to mostly fantasy, I DO like several horror 
authors, including Stephen King, Dean Koontz, Anne Rice, Robert McCammon 
(of course!), and others which I can;t think of at the moment.  As far as 
faves go, my favorite books by the above authors include The Stand, IT, 
The Vampire Lestat, The Wolf's Hour, Swan Song, Watchers, Darkfall, and 
Midnight.....pretty good list, eh?

-The Silver Rainmaker
From: frantz@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: horror anthologies
Date: 29 Jul 92 09:15:47 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <27JUL199221020539@zeus.tamu.edu>, mfc1493@zeus.tamu.edu (Ratboy) writes:
> In article <1992Jul24.085009.1779@bvc.edu>, frantz@bvc.edu writes...
>>I am interested in locating any compilations of short works by various 
>>horror writers along the same vein as Dark Forces, which was edited by 
>>Kirby McCauley.
> 
>>Andrea @ BVC
> 
> Try Leonard Wolf's Tales of Terror. Ity's pretty old, 10 years or so, but has
> very good stories--some classics (i.e. Richard Matheson, Poe, Lovecraft, 
> Bradbury, H.G.Wells, The Marquis de Sade, Harlan Ellison). Excellent book.
> 
> Don't know if this is what you were looking for, but I thought I'd just pitch
> into the conv....
> 
> Michael
> 
Thanks for the recommendation, Michael.  Actually, it appears to be 
precisely what I'm looking for.  I'm a sucker for the "oldies but goodies" 
in Poe, Lovecraft, and Bradbury.  I've got it on order at the bookstore 
right now and will let you know what I think.  Thanks again.

Andrea @ BVC
>
From: rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Lovecraft story "The Hound"  (spoilers)
Date: 24 Jul 92 02:24:09 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <14k9mnINN78d@network.ucsd.edu> M Maxwell writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.145102.17440@njitgw.njit.edu> rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray
>Rich) writes:
>
>(lots of stuff deleted)
>>	BTW, has anyone else read the Cthulhu comic books being published by
>>Millenium.  They're pretty good, tho they concentrate on the Call of Cthulhu
>>RPG theme of good guys vs. cultists and minor mythos races.  I think it's
>>handled pretty well with some decent adaptation, but the series' strongest
>>point is that it's trying to tie many of the mythos stories together (for
>>example, Inspector Lagrasse from CoC is involved in a follow-up investigation
>>of the Whisperer in Darkness.)
>(.sig deleted)
>
>Well.  I think those comics are doing for Lovecraft what "Re-Animator"
>did for it: basically take away all of the fear and tension and just
>turn it all into a monstershoot.  The best comic adaptations of Lovecraft
>that i've seen were in an issue of _Heavy Metal_ from a long time ago 
>(circa 1985 if not sooner).  And they're not even really good comics, 
>either, if you wanted to look at them that way.  They're either too
>schlocky to be taken seriously or not schlocky enough to be taken as
>a pulp type adventure.  Don't get me wrong, i like the CoC RPG, but
>not when it degenerates into a gunfight (esp. in the modern adventures
>that i have seen).
>
>Just my .02 worth.
>-------------------
>Matt Maxwell
>mmaxwell@ucsd.edu
>
>Hey you kids!  Don't touch that, it's ART! 

	I think they have preserved the Lovecraft element of hopelessness,
however.  Gunplay in CoC and the comix is used as a means to dispatch humans
and lesser mythos minions.  It hardly ever works on anything more powerful.
The reason for the gunplay in the game is obvious.  While reading about an
individual paralyzed by fright is interesting, it isn't very fun to play one
all the time.  Players like to feel in-control.  If a gun helps, that's cool,
but they eventually realize that it is an ineffective security blanket.  The
justification of gunplay in the comix is also pretty simple.  The comix market
today is flooded with superhero comix.  There aren't too many enduring horror
comix (sad, ain't it).  Thus, there is an unwritten rule that most comix must
feature at least one scene of pointless fighting.  While I'm not totally 
pleased with it, I accept it.
	Being both a comix collector and Lovecraft afficionado, I like the
comix.  I find them far better than the movies (which have little resemblence
to the stories and feel of Lovecraft).  I also like the fact that the writer(s)
is an obviously well-read Lovecraft fan, tho his own literary abilities may be
questionable.  There is more in-depth integration of Lovecraft stories than the
odd and pointless reference to Yog-Sothoth and the like (i.e. SK's Needful 
Things).

						IMHO only,
							Raythrax
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Subject: Re: Best horror story
From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:56:59 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <92Jul23.023212.22192@acs.ucalgary.ca> kmjoffe@acs.ucalgary.ca (Kenneth M. Joffe) writes:
>I haven't
>given up on him yet, and plan to get a few more of his books.  Is
>Body Politic a novel or short storie?? Wasn't there a movie
>based on it??  Any other good stuff I should look out for by
>him??  

I haven't read "Body Politic" yet, so I can't tell you about it, but if you
get the chance (if you haven't already), read "The Books of Blood". I think
you would enjoy them!
		Laurel
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From: wlamonac@purcell.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca)
Subject: Re: Robert Macammond (sp??)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 02:45:30 GMT

In article <92Jul23.024523.19111@acs.ucalgary.ca> kmjoffe@acs.ucalgary.ca (Kenneth M. Joffe) writes:
>
>Went to a used book store on the weekend and picked up a few
>Robert Macammond (sorry about the spelling....I know it doesn't
>look right) books.  1...Stinger    2...Swan Song   3...They
>Thirst   4...hmmm..forget the name, but its about some guy that
>changes into a wolf during the war.  I haven't read any of his
>stuff before.  Although I will eventually read these books, any
>comments on the author?? 

I've read only four of McCammon's books, and those are the ones.  I would rate
them (from best to worst): _Swan Song_, _Stinger_, _They Thirst_, and the
werewolf one (I can't remember it's name either).  _Swan Song_ is very much
in the vein of King's _The Stand_, ie- a post-apocalyptic novel with a battle
between good and evil.  I would not recommend the werewolf one- it seems that
RM just decided to see how many gore scenes he could get into 350 or so pages.

It's been so long since I read these books that I really can't comment too
much on his style- he's good, but I don't search him out as avidly as I do
other authors.
From: enomura@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Eddie the 'ead)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Hellraiser III
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:49:44 GMT

We're very close to July 31 and I see no ad campaign so I don't think
that's the release date anymore.  I did get a flyer from AMC movie
theatres and they listed it under "August."

ed


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Newsgroups: alt.horror,alt.cult-movies
Subject: News on Evil Dead III: Army of Darkness
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:34:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Evil Dead III: Army of Darkness is going to be released in late September/
early October. The legal battle over the use of the character of Hannibal
Lecter in "The Silence of the Lambs" between Dino D. Productions and Universal
has ended in some sort of compromise, and was the reason for the movie
being withheld.  Sam Raimi is currently working on the story for 
the second DarkMan film.

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From: smash@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Scott Mash)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Cinemax Show B Horror Movies
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:49:15 GMT
Organization: Smasher Land BBS (614)593-8359


  
On Cinemax this week (Monday-Friday) at 11:00 pm they are showing
B Horror movies.  

Monday Night: Class Of Nuke'em High
Tuesday: Dead Dudes In The House
Wednesday: Cycle Sluts In Zombietown

I have no idea what is on tonight but check it out anyway, the ones
that have already been shown are winners.   


Scott

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From: smash@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Scott Mash)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Favorite and Worst Horror Flicks
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:49:08 GMT
Organization: Smasher Land BBS (614)593-8359


Ok, here are my favorite horror flicks....

1. Exorcist
2. The Evil Dead
3. Halloween (All but 3)
4. From Beyond
5. Dawn Of The Dead      
6. Gargoyles          
7. Arachnaphobia (I hate spiders, good for a jump or two)


Now here is a list of Flicks I hated!

1. Halloween 3
2. Frogs (Old and terrible)
3. Pumpkinhead (No surprises, actors were terrible)
4. Return Of The Living Dead 2 (SUCKED!)
5. Sleepwalkers (I want my money back!)
6. Freddys Dead (Its about time)
7. Child's Play 2&3 (What next, a psycho killer Kermit the frog?)
8. Something Wicked This Way Comes (wake me up when its gone)
       
There are a lot more I hated, I just can't remember their names.


Scott

 
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 23:28:12 EDT
From: <PAK114@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Is Texas Chainsaw Massacre worth renting

TCM is the greatest horror movie ever made!  It is incredibly scary and
suspensful even on it's minimal budget.  Some of it's 70's dialog is a bit
dated though, and beware of video copies (everyone I have ever seen has been
very dark and sometimes it's hard to see some of the details) - the best thing
for you to do is to see it at a theatre (fat chance), drive-in (a better bet),
or on CINEMAX (who has a wonderful, bright print) where it plays very
occasionally. See it as soon as possible and change your life for the better.

 CHAINSAW
From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Lists and such
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:03:55 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <7190@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu> mikey.lo@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu (Mike Loux) writes:
>
>>Yes, pretty good. Do you like horror anthologies? Have you read "Four Past
>
>Hmm, do you remember an older anthology called Night CHills by Robert Bloch?

Yes, I remember it, but I cannot remember whether or not I have it. I'll check
my collection and let you know, okay?
				Laurel

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From: exujsch@exu.ericsson.se (Johnny Schmittou T-EEG x7887 Dallas)
Subject: Re: King's band???
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:28:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.082428.5044@nic.funet.fi> tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen) writes:
>I just heard a very strange & funny thing on radio (Finnish radio,
>that is). Stephen King has formed a rock band with some other authors
>and book critics. They should play Ac/Dc -like music. Is this really

This is true.  Big Steve has been in this type of arrangement before
and currently is, from what I understand.  There is a picture of Big
Steve live on stage on one of his books (hardbound), either on the
back cover (jacket) or inside on the jacket.  He plays rhythm guitar.

I also heard or read somewhere (in the intro to one of his books) that
he "purchased" a radio station somewhere in Maine (I'd assume close to
his home in Banghor) just so he could hear the kind of tunes he enjoys
the most.  Big Steve - ya gotta like him...
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