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From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay)
Subject: Re: MOTSS-Oriented Music, Part II
Organization: Castle Anthrax
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:40:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.060407.10785@fuug.fi> an6245@anon.penet.fi (Nobody in particular...) writes:
>In my earlier post asking about MOTSS-oriented music, I didn't specify
>very clearly what I meant by "MOTSS-oriented."
>
>Specifically, what I'm looking for are songs which contain lyrics that are
>obviously MOTSS-oriented.  Songs by artists who are rumored to be gay,
>especially if that rumor is only in the "homosexual community" (I use 
>that phrase because I don't know of any other), are not really what
>I'm looking for.

How 'bout "Rent", by the Pet Shop Boys? "I love you, you pay my rent."
Figure it out...

For that matter, the refrain in "DJ Culture" (also by the PSB) is "And
I, my lord? May I say nothing?" which, I believe, were Oscar Wilde's
words when he was sentenced to two years at hard labor for sodomy.
Does that count?
-- 
Andrew Solovay    

"Wait a minute! You guys are NINJAS!"
                ---The Tick
From: may@hpcesma.ce.hp.com (Elaine May)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Advice needed-Bad comming out experience
Date: 28 Jan 1993 02:28:57 GMT
Organization: HP Corporate Engineering - Palo Alto, CA
Reply-To: may@hpcesma.ce.hp.com
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Thomas M Farrell (gandalf@dworkin.ccs.northeastern.edu) wrote:
: Well, if he's "almost 18," he can stop going as soon as he IS 18, and the
: doctor and parents have no right to force him to go.

Be this as it may, based on my experience and that of many of my friends,
it is hard to break out of this.  Parents like this have a variety of
coercive methods at their disposal:
1. Financial -- They can cut you off financially, or cut you out of their will.
2. Emotional -- After you become financially independent and that stick
   doesn't work anymore, the coercive parent still has the emotional ploy.
   Typically this starts with tears and "how could you do this to me",
   progresses to "don't tell <X>, you know s/he is not in good health",
   to "I will never talk to you again."
3. Legal -- If you're a minor or you have children, your parents can pull 
   out the legal stick and have you committed to a mental institution, or 
   have your kids taken away from you by a homophobic court. 

This coercion is *damn* difficult to deal with when you're in your 20's
and have a good support network of friends.  When you're 17 and live with
2 homophobic roommates, it's *very* difficult.  Which is not to say that
he won't have to deal with this, but I think it is reasonable to recognize
that this is not a simple, straightforward situation.  This guy has a long
road ahead of him, and, having traveled much of it myself, I have a lot of
sympathy for him.

Elaine May                               Hewlett-Packard Corporate Engineering
may@hpcesma.ce.hp.com		         Palo Alto, California
From: roy@panix.com (Roy Radow)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Pedophilia as sexual orientation
Date: 28 Jan 93 03:16:16 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

LASAGA@corral.uwyo.edu (LASAGA) writes:


>However, pedophilia "involves the desire for sexual gratification
>from another nonconsenting human being,...
      ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^
(Sarason & Sarason, _Abnormal Psychology_, NJ:  Englewood 
>Cliffs, 1989, p. 233; the the leading textbook in its area).  

>-maria


If this is "the leading textbook in its area" no wonder our
educational system is in such a sorry state.

Or maybe you just misread or misquoted the authors?

Roy
-- 
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Bulletin, publications list and membership information send $1.00 postage
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From: owen@autodesk.com (D. Owen Rowley)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: GLAAD: Sowell Off Target
Date: 20 Jan 93 22:22:27 GMT

In article <19930119103451ECL4JN2@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>, ECL4JN2@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Jack B. Nimble) writes:
|   The Dec. 21 issue of Forbes magazine carried a column by
|   Thomas Sowell of Stanford's Hoover Institution decrying the
|   possibility of lifting the ban on the service of openly gay
|   and lesbian citizens in the military.  .....
|   Then, in a bizarre twist, he observes that "gays have become
|   another privileged class (because college) men's toilets have
|   become rendezvous centers for homosexual activity.".....
|    That this kind of drivel can gain
|   a place on the pages of a well-known national publication is
|   unfortunate.  While Forbes has the right to clutter its
|   opinion columns in any way it sees fit, where are the articles
|   that would promote a serious discussion of this issue or
|   provide a balance to the blatant prejudice and ignorance of a
|   Mr. Sowell?  Your comments to the editor can only be helpful,
|   write: Mr. James W. Michaels, Editor, Forbes, 60 Fifth
|   Avenue, New York 10011; Mr. Thomas Sowell, c/o Hoover
|   Institution, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305; (415)
|   723-1754.

Considering that Malcolm Forbes was an accomplished Faggot himself
it does boggle the mind.

I wonder what would happen if they were deluged with letters or calls
detailing homosexual rendezvous' with The Late Mr Forbes in public 
toilets ?

:-)

Oh wicked owen ..
such a nasty imagination.

anybody got a stamp...
or two 

LUX ./. owen

--
D. Owen Rowley {uunet,fernwood,sun}!autodesk!owen, owen@autodesk.com
[ EU-PHORIA: A STATE OF WELL BEING ]
Euphoria is my natural state, I do what I enjoy and an abundance 
of all good fortune comes to me for it.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: crombie@iisat.alt.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Tips for coming out to friends?
Organization: Public Access UNIX
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 03:54:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.035753.5353@Princeton.EDU>, dem@cs.princeton.edu (Doron Meyer) writes:
> Hello again everyone.
> 
> I'm starting to contemplate coming out selectively to very
> close friends.  However, I want to make sure to do it right,
> as I can't undo things if I screw them up.
> 
> What I'm asking is what things that worked and what you
> wished you had done when coming out to your best friends.
> 
> Did it work better to mention it in passing, as if it was
> inconsequential (i.e. "I can't wait until the next meeting of <insert
> gay and lesbian organization here>") or to be straight out? (i.e.
> "Bob, I have to tell you something important that I've been hiding;
> I'm gay.")
> 
What I have discovered is that people pick up on how you present the 
information as a way of figuring out how to react to it. So if you
have a tough time talking about it, and talk around it before spitting
it out, people sense you're uneasy, and they'll become uneasy. If you
seem relaxed and happy about it, then they'll be more relaxed.

I got the whole gamut of reactions from my friends, from "omigod you're
going to HELL!" to "well it's about time you figured it out!"

When I've treated as less-than-traumatic information, people seem to
be less than traumatized by it. So make sure you feel comfortable.

The bottom line -- and it cannot be repeated enough -- is that real
friends won't care. It may take some people longer to get used to it
than others, but people are friends with YOU, not with your sexual
orientation. (Unless of course you're been sleeping with them, and that
may take a little extra explaining, a little extra time...)



-- 
Kevin Crombie		Public Access Unix
UUCP:  {dalcs,ulowell}!iisat!crombie
From: kc2@doc.ic.ac.uk (K Campbell)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: FRUSTRATION!
Followup-To: soc.motss
Date: 22 Jan 1993 16:38:09 -0000
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Distribution: world
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So here I am in London, England, the gay capital of Europe,
it is claimed.  And what do I find, but that the college at
which I am a student is 80% male.  Now, before all you men
out there mail me about how jealous this makes you, hear
this:  this place is the most straight-laced, hetty academic
institute I've ever encountered.  There are maybe three
queens I know of, and I've spotted a couple of definite - or
at least HLP - women. (HLP = High Lesbian Potential, for those
who haven't heard it before.)
	But here's the really frustrating bit:  there is a guy
in the same department as me.  He lives in the same residential
area as me.  He is gorgeous beyond the dreams of Eros (to my
admittedly biased eyes).  I have discovered his name.  I know
what course he is doing.  I'm working on getting the exact
address.  He _seems_ to notice me in a similar way that I notice
him (although I haven't heard his heart beating loudly when he
passes me - I'm sure he _must_ hace heard mine :-)
I think I want to scream!  Even now, I can see him in the adjacent
lab.  He is just through a window from me.  He is facing me.
AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!
(author explodes in frustration)
-- 
        |   Kenny Campbell         ______     If at first you don't    |
        |   Imperial College       \    /     succeed, failure might   |
        |   London                  \  /      be your style.           |
        |   kc2@doc.ic.ac.uk         \/                 Quentin Crisp  |
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: graeme@drummond.demon.co.uk (Graeme Hillary)
Subject: Re: Smoke in gay bars
Reply-To: graeme@drummond.demon.co.uk
Distribution: world
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Organization: not
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:30:49 +0000

In article <47-JNEWS-2.1@wonky.UUCP> ailsa@wonky.UUCP (Ailsa N.T. Murphy) writes:
> In article <1993Jan19.172601.16385@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca>, aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Anthony Berno) writes:
> >
> > However, it still amazes me that smokers are allowed to inflict irritating
> > fumes (much worse than the airborne "irritants" that make the LA
> > authorities close elementary schools) on non-smokers. I'm very tempted to
> > carry around a ghetto blaster with a tape of some really horrid German
> > experimental electronic music, and turn it on at high volume whenever
> > someone starts to smoke... Not that smokers are outside their civil
> > rights, I'd just like to have a hobby that is equivalently annoying to
> > others. ;-)
> >
> hee!  i LOVE it!  time to buy a ghetto blaster, preferably one that
> plays CDs, so that i can blast Laibach at people (we have them on CD,
> not tape), or Einsturzende Neubaten, but we don't have any of that, so
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
> i'll have to acquire it first...  fun stuff, that...
> 
>                                                 -ailsa
> 

Aren't they the people who throw cutlery down mineshafts just so they can
tape it and incorporate it into their musak???


===Graeme
From: tomtull@bourbon.Eng.Sun.COM (Tom Tull)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Discretionary Travel to Colorado
Date: 21 Jan 1993 22:32:50 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: bourbon

POSTED FOR A FRIEND....REPLY DIRECTLY TO HIM - ***NOT*** TO ME...THANKS!



Message forwarded:


I am recommending to our personnel group (and executive board) a "ban" on
discretionary travel to Colorado - and I am trying to find out what other
Silicon Valley companies have already done.  

I would appreciate ALL information, copies of policies, statements, etc...


Thanks,


Bill Klein       (COBOL Product Manager)        
Micro Focus Inc, Palo Alto, CA 
wmk@mfltd.co.uk
or
Palo Alto Work Phone: (415) 496-7353
-- 
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Sun Microsystems Inc.	UUCP: {most US backbones}!sun!bourbon!tomtull
Work: 415-336-0412   Home: 415-334-3233 or 289 Gambier St., SF  94134
Xref: sparky soc.motss:58508 ca.politics:10673 talk.politics.misc:69917
From: john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,ca.politics,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Gays in the military (was:Re: Book Review "The Homosexalities")
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:09:43 GMT
Organization: Green Hills and Cows

In article <randall.728017145@seashore> randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:

>I find it interesting that Colin Powell is apparently against
>allowing homosexuals into the military.  That's interesting.
>If one Harry S. Truman didn't have the guts to integrate the
>military, General Powell wouldn't be in the position to have
>such an opinion.

Powell is very careful to differentiate between racial integration and
allowing openly homosexual people to serve. He refers to racial
differences as "benign" as opposed to homosexuals who "define
themselves by their behavior". And I am sure that he really believes
this rot, else how could he live with this position?

The vast majority of homosexual people who have been separated from the
military because of orientation have been done so not because of
behavior, but because of admitting to a "propensity to prohibited
behavior". But this has as much validity as accepting Arthur Hu's
assertion that blacks have a propensity toward crime and then barring
them from service.

>The U.S. Armed Forces is perhaps the most
>racially integrated institution in the world, but only because
>Harry S. ignored the same arguments that are being used against
>gays today.

A spokesman for the military's position last night on ABC's Nightline
ran these circular arguments around the track a few more times. He
brought up AIDS and statistical indications that homosexuals as a group
are unstable. All in all, it is completely reminiscent of the old
garbage used against the concept of racial integration.

It will be interesting to see what the Supreme Court says, since that
is where I believe it will finally end up.

-- 
 John Higdon  |   P. O. Box 7648   |   +1 408 264 4115     |       FAX:
 john@ati.com | San Jose, CA 95150 | 10288 0 700 FOR-A-MOO | +1 408 264 4407
From: berninge@cs.purdue.edu (Jim Berninger)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Clintons by e-mail
Date: 28 Jan 1993 14:48:38 -0500
Organization: Department of Computer Sciences, Purdue University
NNTP-Posting-Host: cornwall.cs.purdue.edu

Just to satisfy my own curiosity, I did a "whois clinton" and came
across the following lovely bit:

*****

Clinton, Crush (CC217)		SPX30@PENTAGON-AMSNET.ARMY.MIL
   Headquarters, Fort Sam Houston
   AFZG-PA-AS
   Fort Sam Houston, TX 78234-5000
   (512) 221-3903 (DSN) 471-3903
   MILNET TAC user (Issued: 04-oct-1989)

   Record last updated on 16-Jun-90.

*****

Hmmmmm.  I can hear the introductions now:
	"Hi, I'm with the military...Crush Clinton..."

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From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Heterosexuality: What a beautiful choice!
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:39:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <TIM.93Jan23125523@ear-ache.mit.edu> tim@ear-ache.mit.edu (Tim Wilson) writes:
>(Is it me, or does anyone else notice a
>certain anit-gay bias in the wording and presentation of news on CNN
>and Headline News.)

CNN strikes me as having good intentions but annoyingly careless at times.
They like to put AIDS stories and homosexual stories back to back.  Also,
once they showed a chart of the main transmission routes for HIV.  It
looked something like this:

         X% Homosexual intercourse
	 Y% Intravenous drug use
	 Z% Heterosexual sex with infected partner

I still haven't figured out the special qualification that heterosexuals
must have an infected partner.  Does "infected partner" imply someone
from the other two categories (supporting the notion of "innocent" and
"not innocent") or are they implying that homosexuals can get HIV from
a non-infected partner?

>I don't know how Ted feels personally, but from what I've heard, he
>doesn't like the fundies like Robertson.  I also seem to remember
>seeing that his cable empire does not discriminate on the basis of
>sexual orientation.  I also remember seeing him with quite a few
>little red ribbons over the years.  Besides, he's married to friend
>Jane.

Ted Turner is reported to be accepting GLBO* folk.

-- 
Scott Amspoker                       |    
Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |  Too bad ignorance isn't really
                                     |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
scott@bbx.basis.com                  |
From: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Laurie Mann)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Prodigy pulls the plug
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:02:49 GMT
Reply-To: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: ansible.pubs.stratus.com

Henry Mensch writes
>lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com wrote: 
>->Sexual abuse survivors on Prodigy fled to GEnie en masse about 14 months ago  
>->after Prodigy management said their discussion was "too explicit."  
>they considered TRAVEL DISCUSSIONS (you know, which airline has the
>best service/cutest FAs/least favorable safety record) risky ...

I think that's because airlines advertise on Prodigy.

GEnie isn't completely free from censorship, but I know there are private adult  
areas and they are pretty free-wheeling.  The only real "censorship" rules I've  
seen on GEnie are:

     put asterisks in certain "four-letter" words (like f*ck)
     avoid personal attacks (they usually wind up in an
           area called "dueling modems")
     you can't use bulletin board areas to start boycotts or
           letter-writing campaigns.  This "rule" is generally
           not enforced, except when the target of said campaign
           is NBC (the parent company of which is the same parent
           company of GEnie---General Electric)

** lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Internet) Laurie.Mann (GEnie) **
******      And now for something completely different...     ******
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Tim Chain Porn (Re: High School Athletes (lusher))
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 07:31:37 GMT

In article <727818919snx@drummond.demon.co.uk>
john@drummond.demon.co.uk writes:

>When I were a lad, we used to program computers by tapping
>on the side of the mercury delay lines with a pencil.  

>Punching object decks?  We'd have *killed* for a handpunch.
>They were for rich folks.

>But if you told young people that today, they wouldn't
>believe you... 

Oh you young whippersnappers are *so* spoiled.  At least
your widgies were electrical.  We used Marchant and Monroe
calculators, which were electrical only in the sense that
you didn't have to turn the crank yourself (though we had a
couple of those lying around).

But at least the steel-nib pen had been invented by the time
I got to college.

-- 
[Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin]
[Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson]
[Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888]
[---------> Discrimination, Bigotry, and Hate are not Family Values <---------]
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: smith_bob_e@tandem.com (Mod Bob)
Subject: Paging Mr. Dyer...Motss PIX question
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: Tandem
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:56:38 GMT

Paging Mr. Dyer...White Courtesy Interphone, please!

I have two images of the dreaded *X* on my hard disk, ready to
be uploaded to motss.pix.  As you can undoubtedly imagine, he is
not blond, does not possess a bubble butt, and the closest he's
been to surfing has been drooling over Keanu Reeves in "Point
Break".  Consequently, his image has no place on my disk.  

Would you please contact me and tell me how to go about uploading
a pair of GIF images from a Macintosh hooked to the InterNet via
AppleTalk and a Mysterious Blue Ungerman-Bass Access One box?

Thanks...

                                    Mod Bob
From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: soc.motss brunch in NYC: thank you
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:25:46 GMT

dem@cs.Princeton.EDU (Doron Meyer) writes:

>I'm posting this to publicly thank everyone who attended the
>soc.motss brunch in New York last Sunday for a wonderful time.

>Everyone was stupendously nice to me and me feel right at home.
>Those time I spent with you was great, and made it so
>hard to come back home again.  I can't thank you all enough.
>It really helped me to become more comfortable with this
>facet of my identity.

>I only hope that one day I can procreate.

At least that's what I thought it said at first... how incongruous!

(Say Doron; doesn't Doron Dorrance have a wonderful *ring* to it?
I sure think so...)

--
thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu * John Dorrance * Disco Diva y Flamenco Chico
      You would be surprised at what resides in your insides.
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: buckmr@vccsouth07.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Injunction GRANTED Against Amendment 2 !!YAY!!
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 00:43:35 GMT

lazarus@wixer.cactus.org (Michael Lax) writes:

>The deputy legal director for the People for the American Way was in Austin
>last night doing a forum on the religious right's effect on American
>culture.  She mentioned CO2 - apparently the interpration of "strict
>scrutiny" will work until it hits the US Supreme Court, where most of
>her legal contacts in CO think they will dismiss the call for strict
>scruity and consequently uphold the amendment.  Maybe - and this might
>take years, by which time the Supreme Court may be more interested in law
>than in politics.
Hmmm, that's a depressing view to take... maybe they won't appeal all the way
to the Supremes if they keep on losing.

>In the meantime, does anyone know what effect this has on anti-discrimin-
>ation laws already in place and does this effect communities wanting to
>implement new ones?

Should have the effect of galvanising Queer Activists to try and pass more
[New Mexico, Rhode Island, Illinois looking reasonable]!

-- 
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735. ``D.C. in 93!''
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
0.5% of all same-sex marriages in Denmark end in divorce: Orange County _Blade_
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Gay soda! I'm so excited!
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 19:21:03 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1993Jan21.222526.3299@macc.wisc.edu> <C18JLF.91u@queernet.org>
  <1993Jan22.170643.22018@macc.wisc.edu>

Jess Anderson writes:
>Incidentally, I am unable to account for George by the P&G
>paradigm; he remains unique, some would
>say very unique (they would, really).

Thanks... I think.

 
() Rotate left! Rotate right!
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-----
[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark)
Subject: Re: Are Gay Men Richer, Really?
Organization: UNIX System Laboratories, Summit, NJ
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:20:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.012344.29883@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>In article <77521@apple.apple.COM> richard@Apple.COM (a
>flying squirrel) writes:
>
>>ryerson.schwark:
>
>>>Of course, most average lackeys (like me) have
>>>the sense to lie and say that they personally influence million dollar
>>>budgets, and viola, free subscription.
>
>>Oh, honestly, Ry.  Your sentiments are hardly so schmaltzy as to require
>>a string section for effect.
>
>These bushy-tailed busybodies are really something!  You
>know perfectly well he wasn't talking to you; he would have
>said Violet in that case, Shirley.

And people wonder why I don't bother to proof my postings, think of
all the amusement we would have missed!

Ry
ry@usl.com
(chuckling at himself, and thinking of Harry Ugol's rule, "If you can't
laugh at yourself, somebody else is going to do it for you and you won't
enjoy it nearly as much.")