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From: evensont@spot.Colorado.EDU (EVENSON THOMAS RANDALL)
Subject: Re: Does apple ][ GS software work using the apple ][ emulator
Keywords: words which summarize content
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:52:41 GMT

In article <17492@umd5.umd.edu> gadams@eng.umd.edu (Geoff Adams) writes:
>
>ramsey@spot.Colorado.EDU (Mad Poo Bandit) wrote:
>|You're probably saying, "Hey, what about input/output?".  Well, a GS has,
>|lemme guess, a keyboard, mouse, drives, serial/parallel ports, sound, monitor,
>|and joysticks, blah blah blah.  An IBM, clone or not, is just bound to have
>|the same things.  Leave it to the software to interpret the GS's instructions
>|Bios calls, and whatever nifty things you can think of, and just, well,
>|emulates them.  Though Apple has a strange penchant for copyrighting their
>|ROMs (which the Apple II emulator needs to work), a good working version
>|can be made which does not violate them (or you can always pirate a copy, hey
>|it's software like anything else...).  You could even re-write the ROMs to
>|make full use of the system running the emulator.  Wow...
>
>I think you're missing the point.  I think you're making the IIgs sound much easier
>to emulate than it is.  Sure similar capabilities may exist in MS-DOS machines, but
>how on earth would you make it work in a way that would be compatible with existing
>applications?!
>
>The point here is that the emulation becomes nontrivial, and could no longer be done
>as a simple mapping of features or translating of BIOS calls.  Few of the really
>interesting things done on the IIgs (and other similar computers) are done via the
>Toolbox calls.  You'd have to drop one level lower in your emulation, and you'd end
>up spending significant amounts of CPU time doing it.  Perhaps you'd even see the
>emulated electron beam sweep across the emulated screen.  :-)
>

I don't think the point is how fast it would run, would it be as fast
as a GS.  It's whether or not it could be done.  Not much purpose exists for
emulating a GS anyways.

But I'll agree that it could be done.  No, it wouldn't be easy, but few
programs these days are.

Unless I miss my guess, MPB is saying that all a GS is is some chips and
some BIOS.  Emulate the chips, copy the BIOS, and pull and tug here and there
to make up for any defiencies.

That right?

Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Subject: Re: Does apple ][ GS software work using the apple ][ emulator
Reply-To: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:32:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.094211.6942@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> gerace@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Mad Poo Bandit) writes:
>
>320x200x16 would be EGA (or, snicker, a PCjr).  I dunno.  I used to
>have a 386sx-16 which was nice when I first got it, but lately seems to

	The GS's SHR mode is better than EGA, at least from what I've
seen of EGA... the palette range of the GS is 4,096 colors...  What is
it for EGA?

>have gotten just plain slow.  So, I got a 486-50 motherboard for 800 bucks
>and dropped it in my case, and voila.  That IS one nice thing about the
>clone market.  Easy upgradibility.  I don't think a GS is so flexible
>in design (not a dog...just fact).

	Hmm, you call $800 an EASY upgrade?  To each their own I
guess.  $800 could buy you a used GS system, and then you wouldn't
need an emulator.... :)

	Hmm, I have a question for all of you IBM users... what about
a Super Nintendo or Genesis emulator?  It should be EVEN easier...
right?

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Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: millerje@CS.ColoState.EDU (Jeff Miller)
Subject: Re: Does apple ][ GS software work using the apple ][ emulator
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:26:30 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <1992Dec15.124451.20009@cas.org> lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes:
>it to the GS since the GS's ROMs are quite similar in nature to the Mac's.

HOLD ON ONE SECOND!!! In _what_ way is the GS ROM similar in nature to the
Mac's?  The material they are made of?


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Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: galt%peruvian.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Greg Alt)
Subject: Re: copying disk images
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:43:14 MST
Followup-To: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
Reply-To: galt%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu
Organization: University of Utah, CS Dept., Salt Lake City

In article <Bz9J0A.Frq@rice.edu>, jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.102041.24369@hellgate.utah.edu> galt%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu writes:
>>And, if the software cannot be found in stores, and the company
>>is out of business or unreachable, then I wouldn't see any
>>ethical problem with copying the software.  In fact, since 
>>it would be so reasonable to copy it, there is very little 
>>chance of any problems even if it is against the letter of the
>>law.
>
>You're right that there is only a small chance you'll get into legal
>trouble for copying out of print games.  But someone, somewhere owns
>the copyright on those games, even if the company that originally published
>them has long since gone out of business, and by copying them you're
>essentially stealing from them. 

[annoying analogy about 50 dollar bills deleted]

No, you are not stealing from them.  You are copying their software
without compensating them.  If it is impossible to compensate them,
then they are losing nothing.  The way that piracy resembles theft is
that you are taking away some of their "potential profit".  If that
potential doesn't exist (i.e. the company is out of business, and 
does let people know where they are), then they aren't losing anything. 

And besides, if someone is to be arrested for copying software that
fits in this category, doesn't the copyright holder have to press
charges?  If there are people out there that want to go through all
the trouble hunting down these copyright holders so that the pirates 
go to jail, why don't they just post info on contacting them so that
we can buy the software from them directly?

That would be a much more ethical thing to do, since that is the only
way that the copyright holders can see any money.

(why is it that people get so unreasonable about copying software,
when NO-ONE ever complains about videotaping TV shows, recording
songs off the radio, xeroxing magazine articles, etc...  I understand
it when we are talking about brand new software that is still being
produced and sold and costs a lot of money, but we're talking about
software that is not being produced, was written by a company that is
out-of-business, and is probably worth < $1.  Seriously...  if you
sent a check for $1 to the person that owns the copyright for some
old game written 10 years ago, I'm sure they would be very happy to
call your copy legit.)

Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: Does apple ][ GS software work using the apple ][ emulator
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:56:02 GMT

jnomina@andy.bgsu.edu (A.P.K.) writes:

>To add my over-priced $.02 to the diskussion, concerning the
>comparisons, there's nothing out there that an AMIGA or IBM can
>do that a ][gs cannot do, other than hardware multi-tasking, but
>we've even got a nice unix-styled multi-tasking environment now
>called Gno.

1. Video Toaster
2. UNIX-style multi-tasking multi-user environment called UNIX
3. Emulate a Mac
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Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: Does apple ][ GS software work using the apple ][ emulator
Followup-To: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 12:53:33 GMT

Actually, most of us GS owners know about ROMs and RAMs as well or better
than you probably - the GS has a feature similar to the Mac where one could
probably care less about the ROMs, since updates to the ROM software is
loaded at boot time from disk.  The problem that most of the GS folk
see is that most of that software expects to see specific hardware in 
specific locations, responding within critical timing windows, to work.
It would take a lot of work to get software expecting a mouse on an Apple
Desktop Bus to recognize an IBM serial mouse, for instance.

It wouldnt be impossible - but it would take a lot of work.
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From: alsu@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alan Su)
Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
Subject: Re: Making disk images (was: Re: Apple2 emulator for the PC)
Date: 14 Dec 1992 07:20:54 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: lightning.berkeley.edu
Keywords: apple2 emulator dos pc

In article <b=d2t_f@rpi.edu> hsiaoe@aix.rpi.edu (Eric Hsiao) writes:
|>Does anyone have disk images of some classic apple 2 games like Seafox,
|>Sabotage, Mystery House, Starblazers, etc.
|>          - Eric
I'd like to add one:
   Beyond Castle Wolfenstein
I'd be extremely grateful to anyone who could somehow get me an image of
this game...Thanks.
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Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2,comp.sys.apple2
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Making disk images (was: Re: Apple2 emulator for the PC)
Keywords: apple2 emulator dos pc
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:38:47 GMT

Well, actually, Big Red Apple still sells a lot of these old games.
This is crossposted to comp.sys.apple2 in hopes that someone will post
the phone number or address.


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From: tmcreek@eos.ncsu.edu (Tobin M. Creek)
Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
Subject: Apple emulator w/ joystick support found!
Date: 19 Dec 92 14:09:32 GMT
Reply-To: tmcreek@eos.ncsu.edu (Tobin M. Creek)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: tmcreek@c00100-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu


I have located an Apple emulator that has been modified to allow use of
a PC analog joystick with your favorite game.  It does appear to work, although
not with everything.  Sometimes the joystick seems to loose its calibration
on my machine.

I have had a lot of inquiries about the disk dumping stuff that I mentioned.
After Christmas break, I am going to upload this stuff to some site somewhere
and post here so that everybody can get this stuff.  You need a super serial
card for your Apple, and a Kermit term program.

Also, can someone out there send me the Apple ROM's?  I am dying to try the
apl2em-2.  Thanks!

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From: cole@concert.net (Derrick C. Cole)
Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
Subject: Re: Slick emulator...but need system disks.
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:12:52 GMT
Organization: MCNC Data Operations

In article <kenc.724257856@sol> kenc@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ken Corey - Operator) writes:
>unknown@Apple.COM (Matt Ackeret) writes:
>>you can ftp them from ftp.apple.com
>
>Hrm.  I went and looked in the dts/aii directories, and could find only the 
>IIgs stuff, and the lc/iiecard stuff.  I'm just looking for DOS for old 
>apple II 5.25" drives.  I'm not wanting to try to emulate the gs at all.
>
>Anyway, talk to y'all later.
>
>Ken == kenc@sol.acs.unt.edu == kenc@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
> "Really ??  What a coincidence, I'm shallow too!!"

Same here.  I _think_ I've got one system diskette (the whole thing was de-
mothballed lately...)  If it's not available via FTP, then what?

Thanks,
Derrick

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From: gerace@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Mad Poo Bandit)
Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
Subject: Re: Does apple ][ GS software work using the apple ][ emulator
Date: 20 Dec 92 20:25:52 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <1992Dec19.130045.20750@cas.org> lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes:
>Even though IBM has not manufactured IBM's, IBM PCs, IBM AT, XT, etc. for
>many yrs, programs are still being written for them, and folk keep using them.
>They are not being built, but there is still a market for software and 
>peripheral support.  The same is true for Apple II, II+, IIe, IIc, IIgs,
>III, Lisa, Mac .* models, etc., Amigas, Commodore 64s, Texas Instruments,
>Atari 800, etc.

Hmmm...yes, I suppose there's something to be said about backwards 
compatibility.  What's the story?  A GS can run IIe/IIc programs right?
And a Quadra can run stuff written for the 128k Mac I assume?

But the question is, how well does it work on these platforms.  Are there
special provisions you gotta make or what?
Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: jberger@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Berger)
Subject: Does anyone know of...
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 17:26:57 GMT

an Apple II emulator that will read real (physical, not image) Apple II
diskettes, or else something to read an Apple II disk and convert it to
an apple2em image?  I want to know this because I have a lot of old Apple II
programs on diskette, and all I have to run them on is a PC with apple2em.
Post it here, or E-mail me as jberger@nyx.cs.du.edu


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From: tillis@icpsr.umich.edu (Eddie Tillis)
Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
Subject: Re: reading Apple CP/M disks on an IBM??
Date: 17 Dec 1992 16:10:07 GMT
Organization: Inter-University Consortium for Political and Social Research
NNTP-Posting-Host: tdis.icpsr.umich.edu

In article <1992Dec16.153734.1@fnusg.fnal.gov> stolz@fnusg.fnal.gov writes:
>Hi all - I've got an another type of Apple II to IBM problem - I have Apple II
>CP/M disks I need to transfer - it could be to either a MAC or and IBMpc I don't
>care which.  All I want to transfer is the text files, I'm not planning to run
>those old CP/M programs ...  The Apple disks are 5.25" - the MAC only has a 3.5"
>drive, while the IBM-clone has both.  Anyone know of a CP/M disk reader for
>the IBM-clone (or the MAC).  I have all three machines.  I can also get to a

I've got a program called 22DISK or DISK22 (or something similar) which reads
cpm files from many formats (Even COLECO ADAM CP/M disks!) on a PC. I'll have
to hunt for it, but I'll post it as soon as I find it. It works VERY well.
I even read CP/M binaries which susequently ran perfectly on an IBM compatible
CP/M emulator I had at the time. They're probably on the same disk. I'll post
that one too! Also Very good.

ET		tillis@icpsr.umich.edu
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Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: Does apple ][ GS software work using the apple ][ emulator
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:38:39 GMT

jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong) writes:

>1) You'd have to rewrite the toolbox.  Good luck.  I don't see very
>many software Mac emulators out there, and there would be if redoing
>the toolbox was easy.  Sure it can be done, but not without a great
>deal of effort.

You don't see a lot of software Mac emulators?  Amiga, Atari ST, and Sparc
aren't enough for you?
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Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: kenc@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ken Corey - Operator)
Subject: Slick emulator...but need system disks.
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:10:05 GMT

apl2em-2 is a great little emulator, and it runs quickly on my 486dx33..., 
however, the only disk I could find was the inmate disk. 

I understand the moderator's concern about copyrighted software, and I'm not 
asking anyone to become a pirate.  I'd simply like to get the Operating 
System Software (I no longer have an Apple II, or it's disks). Would this be 
a major no-no? 

Flames to email to me, please.  If necessary, I'll summarize.

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From: aspoon@ee.ualberta.ca (Alvin Poon)
Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
Subject: Re: How come apple.exe misses the ROM file?
Keywords: ROM apple
Date: 20 Dec 92 02:49:25 GMT
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada

vera@fanaraaken.Stanford.EDU (James S. Vera) writes:


>y70q@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (LAM) writes:

>>How come apple.exe misses the ROM file?

>The apple ][ emulator on wilbur.stanford.edu is missing the ROM files
>because the ROMs are copyrighted and not freely distributable.

>>I have just downloaded apl2em-2.zip. It lacks the ROM file.
>>Where can I get the ROM file?

>Probably a request to this group or comp.sys.apple2 along the lines of
>"I own an Apple ][ but am unable to dump the ROMs; would someone
>please send them to me." would get you some hits.

Actually, it is/was available at ftp.cco.caltech.edu, under
/pub/nyet/apl2em...  (something like that)  Don't know if it's still there.

Alvin
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From: keving@netcom.com (Kevin Gwarada)
Subject: The days ..
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:37:21 GMT

I believe its great to revive the apple (so to speak) on my IBM.  I believe
I've had more fun with that machine than any other (mostly because all the
concepts are new, everything now is just based on what was done before) computer
I've used Including my Amiga, and IBM.  I heard somewhere that there is an
excellerated 6502 for industrial purposes (somewhere around 10 Mhz)-- If
its true, for fun, I'd seriously concider trying to implement it in an old
apple (I realize what this implicates); but it would be great to see it
functioning.  Will we ever return to the days of mass-produced compact code??

-K
 
Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett)
Subject: Re: Does apple ][ GS software work using the apple ][ emulator
Organization: Okcforum Unix Users Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:39:02 GMT

>The original intent was the idea that it is impossible to emulate the GS due
>to the fact that you need special hardware.  Besides the sound chip, I don't
>see what special hardware you would need.

You would need a number of other things, The PC cannot do RGB Analog output,
can it? (RGBA will let you have infinite resulution with the right hardware,
won't it? It may flicker, but still)

The GS will do better than VGA... pop in a Video Overlay Genlock Board (better
than a "Video Toaster") and you can edit video in true VGA 640x480 mode, with
a little flicker, but off of the STANDARD 12" Monitor..) You can also edit in
full 3200 Color mode... (eh, Steve?) stc7 here wrote the actual program...
From: jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong)
Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
Subject: Re: Making disk images (was: Re: Apple2 emulator for the PC)
Keywords: apple2 emulator dos pc
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:42:28 GMT
Organization: Rice University

In article <1gifs3INNq87@agate.berkeley.edu> alsu@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alan Su) writes:
>|>
>I guess this is what I'm asking.  Where can I get a hold of the disk image
>*or* the actual Apple ][ disk for BCW?  I can't find it anywhere.  (Where do
>you get Apple ][ format games anyway?!?)  Thanks.

Actually, I just saw BCW for sale last weekend at a software clearinghous
ttpe store -- they had about 10 copies.  I'd imagine that BCW is
copy protcted, though.  That might make it hard to make and/or use disk
images...


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Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: Does apple ][ GS software work using the apple ][ emulator
Followup-To: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 12:42:10 GMT


> From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)

>To add my over-priced $.02 to the diskussion, concerning the
>comparisons, there's nothing out there that an AMIGA or IBM can
>do that a ][gs cannot do, other than hardware multi-tasking, but
>we've even got a nice unix-styled multi-tasking environment now
>called Gno.

> 1. Video Toaster
> 2. UNIX-style multi-tasking multi-user environment called UNIX
> 3. Emulate a Mac

1. What's a Video Toaster - something to cook video bread?  Seriously, I
have heard the word but never heard an explanation.

2. There is at least one commercial product which provides Unix style multi
tasking - multi user?  I don't know.  Check over on comp.sys.apple2.gno for
the details.

3. Emulate a Mac?  I assume you mean run actual Mac binaries?  Yup - you
are right.  The IIgs does not yet have such a product.  What is the name
of such a product on the IBM - perhaps they would be interested in porting
it to the GS since the GS's ROMs are quite similar in nature to the Mac's.
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From: bill@solaria (Bill Neisius)
Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
Subject: Re: DIP switch setting on Super Serial Card II??
Date: 19 Dec 92 16:48:06 GMT
Reply-To: bill@solaria.hac.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Jeffrey Gustafson (jeffgus@netcom.com) wrote:
: 
: 	I have access to an Apple ][.  I tried to get some disk images
: off it but I can't seem to talk to it through a null modem.  I typed
: PR#1 and IN#1 like the A2PCTRAN document said, but all I got was
: *some* junk.  I'm guessing that the Super Serial Card II DIP switch
: settings are wrong.  (The card uses standard RS-232 right?)
: 	Does anyone know what the switches do on a Super Serial Card
: II?  If so please post or e-mail them to me. 

I had a similar problem with an Apricorn Serial Interface on a Franklin
Ace 1000.  Setting the PC to 7 bits, no parity did the trick....

Bill