From: davidh@cascade.ens.tek.com (David Hatcher)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc
Subject: Look at the Father through Love (Re: Homosexuals anywhere are wrong)
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:58:19 GMT
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Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <sbuckley.712269685@sfu.ca> sbuckley@fraser.sfu.ca (Stephen Buckley) writes:
>David Hatcher writes:
 
>  exactly.  that is the message of the new testament--that jesus will 
>reconcile us to god.  this covenant replaces the one of laws in the old
>testament.  the new covenant is accepting jesus as our saviour.

  Which is an act of love and which is why love is also the essence of the
new covenant. 

>>  To me, there is much to be said that the way to God is through the Son.
>>So to me, what that means is that God is not know through laws, but though
>>spiritually becoming One with Jesus Christ. 
>
>  what do you mean by "becoming one with jesus christ"?  is that like
>what i've heard in the past about becoming one with the god in us all? or
>do you mean to invite jesus into our lives?  or do you mean us becoming
>jesus?

  This is an aspect of living the mystery.

  So, I'd say it is more of one spiritually attuning to and becoming one with 
the very stuff that is the essence of Christ. Another way of putting it is 
to say that one is walking in the shoes of Christ. This is the kind of stuff 
where one has to open their soul naked before God. This is also the stuff 
that is beyond "laws", and even beyond "theology". It's a part of the 
experiential aspect of directly knowing God, today, in this life time, 
where that experience is needed the most.

  It's even beyond inviting Jesus into our lives, and even beyond becoming 
one with the God in us all, though, seeing that the the temple of God
is within all of us, in some ways, that could be what we are doing.

  Many of the Christian saints and mystics wrote about this experience of 
uniting with God as One through Jesus Christ that I'm talking about. So
I'm not making up something new. In fact, it is a very old and well
established aspect of one spiritually growing closer to God.

  But, I think that most are way too busy with the outer busy mental 
activity of conceptional thinking to actually get in there and give their 
hearts and souls to God. Faith that is riding upon the inner eye of 
love like an arrow towards the heart of God is hard to come by for most. 

  Part of this is my asking "What is Prayer? And, how much may one open
their souls to God in Prayer? This is my questioning what to me seems like
spiritual limits that many put on the words "the only way to the Father
is through Jesus Christ." I'm most interested in getting to the Father.
It seems to me that many are still stuck with the words or are still
looking "at" the Son, not at the Father through the Son or even the 
Fathers Creation through the eyes of the Son.




        The saints are what they are, not because their sancity makes
        them admirable to others, but because of the gift of sainthood
        makes it possible for them to admire everybody else.
                                        Thomas Merton


	David Hatcher

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