From: cza@troy.cc.bellcore.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: The Turkish Cypriot cemetery is dilapidated.
Keywords: Greek cypriot refuting these charges.
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:52:01 GMT
Organization: BCR, NJ-USA


In article <1992Nov18.175102.27225@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> echristo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Elena A Christofides) writes:
>This is a whole load of BULLSHIT!
>I'm a Greek-Cypriot and I just got back from being in Cyprus for the entire 
>summer. I was also just there over last Christmas too.
>I'd just like to say a few things.
> First off, the Greek-Cypriot government has been systematicly restoring the 
>Turkish mosques that exist on the sothern part of the island. A point in case 
>is one of the most sacred mosques to the muslims is the one where Mohammed's 
>aunt is buried. This mosque is just outside of the airport and is attended by 
>security. You can visit it as it is still in good repair.
>Secondly, This is more than I can say for some of the churches on the other 
>side. Some relatives of mine that live in the occupied zone were let out for a 
>visit last summer (they're let out only for a few days every few years or so.) 
>They said that most of the churches lie in ruins.
>Thirdly, Leda and the Swan WAS NEVER IN THE KOUKLIA MUSEUM AND HAS NOT BEEN 
>STOLEN. Leda and the Swan permantly resides in the NICOSIA museum. And as of 
>August 5th, it was still on loan to tour with some other art pieces.
>Fourth, the Turks are notorious for stealing mosaics from the churches in the 
>NORTH. A lot of these were recently recovered (from the black market from 
>Turkish fiends!) and restored. They now currently reside in the Byzantine 
>museum in Nicosia at the Archbishop's place.
>
>If ANYONE DARES to persist with bullshit about Cyprus -you just wait and SEE 
>how bad I'm going to FLAME YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everything is fine up to this point.

>
>Gadishi Sas - pezavenghis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Elena Christofides   Greek-Cypriot and DAMN PROUD TOO!!!!!!!!

Suddenly a Turkish cursing knowledge is surfaced here without no 
apparent reason.  Since no name is given and it is only posted in SCT,
this should be a generic cursing attempt to Turks in general.
I hope that I am wrong.  Nevertheless, the irony starts right there.  
Obvious from the name, the poster is a female (Elena! It is a lovely 
name by the way).  Lets neglect the small possibilty that someone 
tries to wear Elena's skirt (why to be so skeptic).  She calls some 
Turks (or may be all of them- who knows "pezavenghis" might be plural 
in Greek) generically "Pezevenk" probably without knowing the meaning.
Because pezevenk means "pimp" in Turkish.  Otherwise, she
forgets one thing.  Turkish males who were called pezevenk by a female 
who deals with them in this nasty manner, usually answer back as "if 
I am pezevenk what do you think you are. "  

I am not testing how far Elena can go.  My point is no need to resort 
profanity while one can express herself easily like above.
This goes to all who really want to communicate no matter
how outrages they think that someone's posting was.  Sure there are 
some hopeless causes who would not understand what I mean.  For them I 
have nothing to say but a Turkish expression that I like: "Doctor told 
that those patients can eat whatever they want."   



C. Akgun                    "Hekim bunlar ne yerse yesin dedi"
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