From: kendall@adobe.com (Janice Kendall)
Subject: Re: CLINTON SPEECH TEXT: BUSH FETAL TISSUE VETO
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:08:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.031123.6051@ncsu.edu> dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.030031.14399@adobe.com> 
>kendall@adobe.com (Janice Kendall) writes:
>
>>dsh@odin.ece.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
>
>>> Fetal tissue research is still in the experimental stage.  Yes, there
>>> have been some successes, but there is NO widespread program of fetal
>>> tissue transplants.  It is complete nonsense to believe otherwise. 
>>>
>>> AIDs patients are taking experimental drugs, and the government funds
>>> the RESEARCH needed to develop those drugs.  Likewise, the Bush
>>> administration supports funding of fetal tissue RESEARCH.
>
>>   WRONG!
>
>Wrong about what?  I said that there was no widespread program
>of fetal tissue transplants.  Below, you agreed with me.  I also
>said that the Bush administration supports funding of fetal 
>tissue RESEARCH, and that it's still in the experimental stage.
>
>> I never claimed there was a widespread program.
>
>We agree. 
>
>> In fact, the whole issue was how difficult it was for the preacher to
>> get the procedure and that only very few are benefitting from fetal
>> tissue research because our government DOES NOT support it.
>
>Did it occur to you that few people are benefiting now because
>the research is still in the experimental stage? 
>
>> There is NO government funding of fetal tissue research.  
>
>That is not correct.  The article below represents the Bush 
>administration's policy on fetal tissue research, and it was 
>posted to Alt.politics.bush on August 19.  It may still be
>on your newsserver. 
>
>--------
>From: tmg@nptn.org (Tom Grundner)
>Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
>Subject: BUSH FACTSHEET: Abortion
>Message-ID: <1992Aug19.213731.14191@nptn.org>
>Date: 19 Aug 1992 21:37:31 GMT
>Organization: National Public Telecommunication Network
>
>[...]
>
>Research Using Fetal Tissue
>
>The National Institutes of Health properly funds research involving
>transplantation into humans of fetal tissue derived from
>spontaneous abortions, ectopic (tubal) pregnancies, and cell
>cultures.  The President supports that research, which may
>contribute to medical breakthroughs against various diseases.
>
>But the price for medical progress cannot be moral regress.  That's
>why the President opposes federal funding of transplantation
>research involving fetal tissue from deliberately-induced
>abortions.  Such research could, either now or in the future,
>encourage abortions, and it raises serious moral questions.
>

I saw the program the first time it aired on "60 Minutes", I missed
the repeat of it seen by some just recently.  My recall is not always
exact.  The point of the show was whatever was going on with public
funding was paltry, that private research was making real progress
but the expense was limiting the availability to only a few.  

My impression was that the researcher's complaint is that fetal tissue 
from non-elective abortions is scarce and does not allow for real progress
in research and for experimental use on humans.

In other words, Bush is doing just enough to sound like his administration
is doing something, but the truth is different.

(Same with AIDs, he can say they are spending tons of money on the AIDs
 problem, but he won't follow the suggestions put forth by his own 
 commission to put the money to good use.  That is why the AIDs
 activists demonstrate - not for the dollar amount, but for the
 implementation.)
   
 Janice Kendall    kendall@adobe.com    ...!{decwrl|sun}!adobe!kendall

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		our government functions.