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From: cheesmna@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Subject: Re: How would you rate Disney's Movies??
Reply-To: cheesmna@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 21:48:32 GMT

In article <maj1.703369832@Ra.MsState.Edu>, maj1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mark "Beren" Jamison) writes:
>OOPS I guess that should be animated movies.. So How would you rate them
>amongst each other?? Let's take a poll.. You've got 30 votes which do
>you think is the best and which do you think earns that #30 spot??
>
>I'll be happy to post the results
>
> 	-Mark
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Err, would partially animated movies be valid?  i.e. Mary Poppins, Bedknobs and
Broomsticks, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, etc...
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From: caladan!seanews!monorail@seattleu.edu (Brannon Boren)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Lyrics To "Imagination":  Anybody Got `Em?
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 01:40:40 PDT
Organization: SEANEWS - Seattle Public Access News & Mail

sasha.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu writes:

> Anyone out there got the lyrics to "Imagination" from the Journey Into
> Imagination center at the Experimental Prototype Community Of Tommorow?
> Thanx much.
> 
> 
>                                     - Sasha


        I've got the tape of EPCOT music with that on
it.  Give me a day to transcribe it...

                        Monorail Green
                          aka B-Man

please reply to: polari!eisley!monorail@uunet.uu.net
             or: caladan!seanews!monorail@seattleu.edu
             or: monorail@pismo.wa.com
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Michael Eisner is the Anti-Disney. ||  with wings."  - Me
From: bevingto@wolf.ma30.bull.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: SNOW WHITEI
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:55:41 GMT
Reply-To: bevingto@wolf.ma30.bull.com ()
Organization: Bull Worldwide Information Systems


It  is my understanding that, for whatever reason, the Disney will forbids
the release/re-release of SNOW WHITE ever.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: csmith@onetouch.COM (Craig Smith)
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast
Organization: MCS/OneTouch, Inc.
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 12:47:10 GMT

Turgut Kalfaoglu <TURGUT@FRMOP11.BITNET> writes:

>This is so unfair. We have to wait until Christmas to see the movie at the
>Cinemas in Paris and you can already buy it on video?

>turgut

They have to translate it into french (I know that sounds odd for a story
supposedly set in France) and they need to get good French lyrics for the
songs.  That's why it is taking so long.
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From: winter@apple.com (Patty Winter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disneyland Report 4/12/92
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:39:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA


A few fast notes from our visit to Disneyland yesterday.

1. Everything is up and running for the spring holiday season.
No attractions were out of service yesterday.

2. With Rivers of America now refilled and getting ready for
Fantasmic, that wonderful viewing area for Splash Mountain
has reopened. To get there, stand in front of the main water-
slide on Splash Mountain and look for the little path leading
towards the river. (It's to the left of a small brown building--
perhaps the Harbour Galley Restaurant?) From this path, you
can look down on the Splash Mountain log boats just after 
they've gone down the main slide. Everyone in them is laughing
and shaking off the water! It's great fun. You also get a lovely
view of the river and Tom Saywer Island.

3. We kept seeing a strobe light go off about a second after
each log started down the main Splash Mountain drop. Why a
strobe light during the day, when you can see the people on
the ride just fine? Aha--so that the Disneyland folks can
sell photos of you taken at your moment of greatest terror!
The picture is captured on video, displayed towards the end
of the ride and again on outside monitors, then you go to
a booth and order a print. Only takes a few minutes, comes
in a little display cover, and costs about $6. Looked like
they were at least 5x8 inches, maybe larger.

4. The Main Street Electrical Parade is back for the season,
twice nightly when the park is open late. (Which is it every
day now until April 26th at least.) There's a new stage show
at Videopolis--"Beauty and the Beast"--which we didn't see.

The crowds were only moderate yesterday, but I wouldn't count
on the same thing happening Easter weekend... 


Patty
From: 91babik@gw.wmich.edu (Lisamarie 'Rifa the Insane' Babik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Premiere of EuroDisney
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:00:39 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Apr11.172111.17309@ctr.columbia.edu>, es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:
> 
> 	I'm wondering what coverage there will be of the opening
> of EuroDisney. When, and on what station? Thanks,
> 	-- Ethan
> 
> 
> While campaigning in the jewish community, Bill Clinton agreed to
> have a circumcision as soon as his erection is over.
> 	-- Dennis Miller

The EuroDisney opening was on last night (4/11/92).  I watched parts of it, 
but found it to be rather cheesey, especially since most (possibly all) of 
the singing was lip synch'd.  Perhaps I wouldn't have noticed it if "Beauty 
and the Beast" hadn't cut out for a microsecond in the middle, and if they 
hadn't had the sound effects of Chip bouncing off towards bed!

Argh!

Regardless, I have added "Go to EuroDisney" to my list of things to do when 
I get a real job!

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: justin@mik.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan)
Subject: Disney Soundtracks (to older films)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 12:44:32 GMT
X-Bytes: 

Greetings.. I just watched Robin Hood the other night for the first time in  
quite awhile, and it reminded me of a love I had a very long time ago..
At any rate, are there any collections or soundtracks available to older Disney  
stuff? Not Fantasia or Little Mermaid or BatB.. I have those already. How about  
to Robin Hood and Bambi, and movies like that?
Only curious.. Kindly e-mail replies.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
Subject: the art work on the cover of _The Little Mermaid_
Reply-To: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 02:10:30 GMT



I have certain rumours dealing with certain phallic images on the
cover of the video for _The Little Mermaid_. I know Walt Disney Co.
is a family-oriented establishment, but I would just like to know
if this is another urban myth. Please emial me if you have no idea
what I am talking about. I doubt that it is appropriate to discuss it
here. Thanx in advance.

BTW, Beauty and the Beast was awesome. My girlfriend and I loved it, 
and we're both 19!!!!

Later

-- 
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Thieves Like Us     for a while....and get to Texas.....I'll have a drink
mal11@po.cwru.edu   on Texas."  - U2  Dallas, Texas  April 5th, 1992 
                   I LIKE TO WATCH THINGS ON ZOO TV
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: cpetterb@javelin.sim.es.com (Cary Petterborg)
Subject: Inquiry - Disneyland in mid May
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:32:42 GMT

My wife and I are thinking of taking our three year old to Disneyland
sometime between May 11 and May 14.  My wife is quite concerned that
it will be too crowded for our little girl to stand in the lines to
the things that would interest her without getting cranky and restless.
We've never gone to such a place with her, so we don't quite know what
we are in for.  I thought it would be a good time to go, before the
summer crowds, not a weekend, etc.

So, what do you think?  Is it a bad time to go?  Are we asking for
trouble?  What should we plan on?

Also, I was wondering about the height requirement on Splash Mountain.
Our little girl is 3' 2" instead of 3' 4".  Is it possible that they
would let her go on it anyway?  We have never been on it, so would it
be too much for a child that size and age?

And then, my wife's friends that live in Orange county said that
Knotts Berry Farm would be much more enjoyable for our little girl
(and consequently for us).  Is this true, or would it be much the
same as Disneyland?  (Yes, I've been to both places, but from the
perspective of a three year old, will it be much the same?)

Thanks in advance for all your help.  I'll post a summary if there is
interest, and enough replies to make it worth while.

Cary
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From: singg@alf.uib.no (Kurt George Gjerde)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: SNOW WHITEI
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:39:13 GMT
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway

In article <s7pcmINNmeq@agate.berkeley.edu>, davina@ocf.berkeley.edu (Davina Tung) writes:
|> In article <BMJ69F.CL9@world.std.com> andyi@world.std.com (Andy G Ihnatko) writes:
|> >bevingto@wolf.ma30.bull.com writes:
|> >
|> >
|> >>It  is my understanding that, for whatever reason, the Disney will forbids
|> >>the release/re-release of SNOW WHITE ever.
|> >
|> >
|> >Actually, to help soften the local bad PR over EuroDisneyland, Disney 
|> >re-released Snow White for the big screen in France.
|> 

The spring release of SHOW WHITE in Europe (England, Scandinavia, Germany,
France...) has been known for quite a while.

|> :^0  I am *green* with envy.  Do we poor slobs back here in the US get any sort
|> of consolation prize?

Oh, shut up! You always get to see the new releases a year before us. Over here
the Beauty and the Beast isn't due until x-mas ('92), and we don't ge to see Aladdin until x-mas 1993!! 

Let us only hope that SNOW WHITE will be out on video soon.


----
Kurt
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: tll@cco.caltech.edu (Tal Lewis Lancaster)
Subject: LaserDisc release lag vs VHS (was 101 Dalmations)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:15:01 GMT

sonja@mariposa.key.amdahl.com (Sonja Rysko) writes:

>Yesterday I bought 101 Dalmations for $14.99 at the local discount warehouse.
>It contains a preview of Alladin, which looks great, as well as notice that
>The Great Mouse Detective is due out on video this summer and B&tB is due
>out this fall. Some have posted exact dates for B&tB, but I was supprised
>by the other clips. No date yet for any of these on laser. My local store
>does not usually find out until they are able to order. For some reason,
>Disney has one of the longer lag times between tape and disk.

How true, for example Jungle Book came out almost 1 year later than its VHS
counterpart.  However, off hand I can think of three releases that came out
at the same time (or pretty close):

Fantasia, Rescuers Down Under, Prince and the Pauper.

I'm not sure why there is such a lag between the VHS release and the LD release.
Maybe it is because they want to saturate the VHS market so there will be
less bootleging VHS copies from LaserDisk?

>Sonja

Tal
From: GWS102@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Permanent Jobs with Disney
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:39:38 GMT
Organization: HAM - Hackers Against MUDs
X-Subliminal-Message: IBM/370 assembler is your friend.

I am an engineering student graduating this semester from Penn State and think
the idea of working for Disney very interesting.  Does anyone out there now whe
re one can send a resume to apply for such jobs?   Any help would be appreciate
d.
                                             Glenn Szydlowski
                                      Penn State Aerospace Engineering
                                          GWS102 at PSUVM.PSU.EDU
From: 91babik@gw.wmich.edu (Lisamarie 'Rifa the Insane' Babik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: 20 New Reasons to Fly to Walt Disney World
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:11:37 EST
Distribution: usa
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Apr7.161318.1246@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>, srm1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (steven.r.marcovici) writes:
> In article <1992Apr6.234220.3720@gw.wmich.edu> 91babik@gw.wmich.edu (Lisamarie 'Rifa the Insane' Babik) writes:
>>A while ago, someone asked what the "20 New Reasons to go to Walt Disney 
>>World" were, as they were being advertised on television.  Well, here's the 
>>answer, straight off my tray liner from Burger King!  Ta-dah!
>>
>> 6. Jim Henson's Muppet-Vision 4D
> 
> Wow! Have they added a dimension since I was there last?    ;-)
> Leave it to Disney to incorporate time travel into a theme park attraction.
> 
> 
> -Steve  srm@garage.att.com

Hey!  *I* didn't make it up!  That's what it said..."4D".....I swear on it! 
I read it a couple times just to be sure....

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
Subject: Premiere of EuroDisney
Organization: Columbia U., New York City
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 17:21:11 GMT


	I'm wondering what coverage there will be of the opening
of EuroDisney. When, and on what station? Thanks,
	-- Ethan


While campaigning in the jewish community, Bill Clinton agreed to
have a circumcision as soon as his erection is over.
	-- Dennis Miller
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: gflowers@cognex.uucp (Gail Flowers)
Subject: More Robin Hood bashing
Organization: Cognex Corp., Needham, Mass
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:55:44 GMT

Keep your eyes on Prince John's hands --- his rings appear and disappear
with hilarious regularity!  I thought Disney would be more careful about
mistakes like that.

Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: andyi@world.std.com (Andy G Ihnatko)
Subject: Re: SNOW WHITEI
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 06:48:46 GMT

cheesmna@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU writes:

>I'll raise my hand to that.  It seems every time you turn your head, Walt
>Disney is doing something spectacular.  I sometimes wonder when they'll start
>doing things like the EuroDisney 3rd and a half week Anniversary : Win a free
>loaf of french bread...  Where I really notice it is in the animated films.


Me, too.  Diney puits out some good films, but their marketing has to go. 
Their ads label every movie as a Classic the week before it even premieres,
everything they do is chock full of Disney Magic (tm) whatever the hell that
is, and no sooner is a flick in the theaters before bargeloads of licensed
crap hits the market.  "Little Mermaid" was two full years ago and STILL you
can't spit in a toy store without hitting Ariel's face somewhere.  I really 
wish they'd 1) make a movie, 2) respond with a simple "Aw, shucks..." if it
gets good reviews and then 3) move on to the next project.  No one ever talks
about The Magic Of George Lucas' Classic "Star Wars" and yet HE's managed to
do pretty well for himself...

As for your Mermaid/Beast Snow White/Cinderella comparison: I dunno.  After
all, "Cinderella" came out thirteen whole years after "Snow White" so of course
there are going to be huge differences in style.  With only a two-year gap
you're asking a lot for "Beast" to be wholly different from "Mermaid."  Still,
the way they relied on so much shadow and the impact of Disney's computer
painting system makes it pretty distinct IMHO.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: evanh@sco.COM (Evan A.C. Hunt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Beast's age
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 19:46:55 GMT
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.


In article <1992Apr06.195658.7657@onetouch.COM> csmith@onetouch.COM (Craig Smith) writes:
>davina@ocf.berkeley.edu (Davina Tung) writes:
>
>>For as much as it's worth, can I throw in a reference here to Robin McKinley's
>>novel, _Beauty: A Retelling of the Classic Fairy Tale_?  A rather sappy book, 
>>but I seem to remember reading somewhere that the scriptwriter of B&B (can't
>>remember her name) cited it as an "influence".  Certainly, the movie's plot is
>>a  lot closer to the novel than it is to the original fairy tale...
>>Anyway, in McKinley's novel, while the Beast was under enchantment he aged
>>one year for every ten that passed.  Personally I think it makes more sense 
>>that he be punished for his arrogance at the age of 20 than the age of 10.
>
>Perhaps, but it still does not answer the question as to how his castle
>could have been all but forgotten in only ten years.

Posting for my wife:

On GEnie, there was some discussion over whether McKinley's book should
have been credited for providing inspiration - many of us thought such
inspiration was fairly obvious - and one of the animators of the movie
denied that they had used it at all.  I believe he said that Cocteau's
film version was used, but according to the Chronicle the screenwriter herself
very carefully avoided it, so as not to be overly influenced. 

Of course, since the screenwriter was a bookworm herself, chances are she
would've encountered the book at some point.  In any case, it's a shame
they didn't use McKinley's time method, because this is a problem with the
movie that keeps cropping up.
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: jdunning@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (John A. Dunning)
Subject: Re: Animations cels
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 19:28:14 GMT

In article <53386@hydra.gatech.EDU> dsm@prism.gatech.EDU (Danny McGurl) writes:
>Not to long ago someone in this group was looking for places to buy 
>Animation cels from the Little Mermaid.  Well, last week I saw two for

>-- 
>Danny McGurl                        "No, no Pixel!  Beer is not for baby cats."
>Office of Information Technology        --Richard Ames,
>dsm@prism.gatech.edu 		        __The Cat Who Walks Through Walls__

There's also a store at MGM in WDW, near the animation tour.  It had
a wide selection of cels, from about $400 per for newer films, to abuot
$4000 - $6000 for a film like Pinnochio (no joke).



Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: B&B POSTER
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:22:54 PDT

In article <gdr_IHC00WBNQ4UYBz@andrew.cmu.edu>, jd4b+@andrew.cmu.edu (John M. Dicosola) writes:
> 
>     I WANT (very emphatically) to find somewhere that I can purchase,
> for a reasonable sum, the movie poster for Beauty and the Beast.  I
> don't want the cartoonish one with Belle dancing in the field with all
> the furniture and the Beast in the clouds - I want the one of them
> dancing in shadows, with the airbrushing and the words, "the most
> beautiful love story ever told".

I got mine at the most recent Disneyana show held by the NFFC.  If I
recall correctly, I paid $35 and the guy had lots of them.  I don't think
I have his card, but I do have a price list from another vendor who had
some.  I'll see if I can dig it up.  E-mail me if you want the info, and
if there are enough requests I'll just post it.

|  Greg Orman                               greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|                      Live to ride, Ride to Live                      |
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Organization: European Academic Research Network
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 17:34:45 GMT
From: Turgut Kalfaoglu <TURGUT@FRMOP11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast
Distribution: rec
 <1992Apr7.142340.11553@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>

This is so unfair. We have to wait until Christmas to see the movie at the
Cinemas in Paris and you can already buy it on video?

turgut
From: ultron@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andrew H Krieg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Mickey Mouse Club (1970s)
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:00:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: uwm.1992Apr16.230026.25373
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee

In article <1992Apr11.232217.1519@gossip.urich.edu> helen@nomad.urich.edu (Helen C. O'Boyle) writes:

< long detailed list of New MMC info deleted >

One thing the list didn't mention was that Billy (Pop) Attmore also made a
feature Disney film.  You can find him in "Treasure of the Matecumbea" (I'm
not sure if I spelled that right).

>I still have the songbook from the show, some Disney press releases, and
>such.  And in the attic, the t-shirts, warmup suit, etc. ;-)  (If anyone has
>a video of any of it, please let me know where you got it.  As long as I seem
>to have ended up with a rather complete collection of information/stuff about
>the show, it'd sure be nice if I had a video of it to explain to people what
>it was!)

I have about 10 minutes of the show on video somewhere.  The Wonderful World
of Disney show was famous for recycling old animation.  That show had an
episode in the 50's that features a day in the life of Donald Duck and his
nephews.  His nephews watch the MMC and are Mousketeers.  The WWoD show
recycled this 50's episode in the 70's and during the scene where they watch
MMC, they used the 70's Mousketeers.  The Disney Channel used to run WWoD
reruns regularly, and I was able to tape the 70's version of this episode on
there.

From what I remember, the clip shows the Mousketeer role call, a couple of
songs (one of which was "Do the Mous-ka-dance"), and the closing song ("Now
it's time to say good-bye......").

This reminds me of another 70's Disney show that has languished in obscurity
also.  Anyone remember "The Mouse Factory"?  The Disney Channel used to show
reruns of that show, maybe someday they'll rerun the 70's MMC.   I kinda
doubt it though.
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