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From: sdahabie@alfred.carleton.ca (Sarah Dahabieh)
Subject: Job opportunity at Carleton Univ.
Summary: Computer Software Engineer
Keywords: Job
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:16:17 GMT

The Department of Mathematics and Statistics has an opening for a
Computer Software Engineer.  The candidate will provide computer support
for the instructional, research and administrative activities of the
department. The duties include:

-  General support for Novel network, Sun Workstations, and Tops.
-  Administer the operation of the instructional laboratories.
-  Software installation.
-  look after network printers and resolve any hardware or software          
   problems.
-  Coordinate repairs.
-  Evaluate present and future needs.
-  Provide training for staff (TeX and WordPerfect currently in use)
-  Write macros and programs (TeX and dBase currently in use) 
   to simplify applications.
-  Act as liaison with Computing Services, Computer Store, and Science   
   Technology Centre.

The duties of the position require experience with MS-DOS and MacIntosh
with Ethernet and Appletalk hardware.  Experience with Sun UNIX computer
systems is also a requirement.  A thorough knowledge of current processor
networking technology (Novel, Tops, Ethernet); of programming languages,
structured programming methodology and of available applications
software;  skill in installing, running, maintaining and updating machine
level, system control, level and network level, software; good interpersonal
skills.

The above is normally acquired by: the completion of an Honours (4 year)
Bachelor's degree in Computer Science and a minimum of three years of related
work experience.

Starting date is as soon as possible.  Please mail resumes to
sdahabie@carleton.ca, or fax to (613)788-3536, attention Sarah Dahabieh by
January 29, 1993.
Newsgroups: ott.general,bnr.general,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: shepard@bcarh535.bnr.ca (Roy Shepard)
Subject: WANTED: EGAWONDER manual
Keywords: egawonder
Reply-To: shepard@bcarh535.bnr.ca (Roy Shepard)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: ott
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:28:29 GMT

I'm  looking for someone in the Ottawa area that has an ATI  EGAWONDER
manual.  I had an  EGAWONDER  in a computer I sold, and  promised  the
manual as well.

Well, I moved,  and have  since  misplaced  my  manual.  The guy  that
bought the card wants the manual, and ATI wants $18 for a new  manual.

But, I'm cheap, so...

If anyone has the manual, I'd like to borrow the manual and  photocopy
it.

As I don't have email access,  please call me at 763-7956  weekdays or
723-7157 evenings.

Thanks.

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Roy Shepard          | Of course I don't      |Bell-Northern Research 
Phone: (613) 763-7956| represent BNR's        |P.O. Box 3511 Station C
ESN:       6-393-7956| opinions.              |Ottawa, Ontario
FAX:   (613) 763-2626|                        |Canada K1Y 4H7   
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Newsgroups: ott.general
From: clippy@bnr.ca (Dwayne Clipperton)
Subject: Re: Request and Warning
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:37:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.192104.8492@bmers145.bnr.ca>, mcbrayne@bmerh933.bnr.ca (John McBrayne) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan14.131724.27187@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, paynter@bnr.ca
|> (Stuart Paynter) writes:
|> |>Last night (Jan13), some one ripped my skis off from Mt. Cascades 
|> |>while I was inside changing.  If any Eastern Ontario/Western Quebec
|> |>skiers happen to come across the following skis, I'd appreciate 
|> |>a shout (the skis/bindings are fairly unique combination I think)
|> 
|> Mont Cascades has to be one of the worst places for ski theft (probably
|> because most people skiing there at night are there for lessons, and the
|> crooks KNOW lessons end at 9 and most everyone will be inside for an hour
|> or so for a few apres-lesson drinks).
...
|> P.S. Just in case you didn't know, if you have house/tenant insurance you're
|> likely covered for the theft (but usually with a $200 deductible). Look at it
|> as a $200 upgrade to a brand new pair of skis and bindings!
|> 
|> ..John
|> 
|>                      

I plan to go skiing shortly and I paid less than $200 for my used skis.
Are any of the locking devices for skis worthwhile?  I don't want
something so big that I have to keep it in the car.?.?.? -:)

I assume, that there must be some small shackling device that will make
it a nuisance for would-be theifs.


Thanks,

clippy@bnr.ca
From: jam@jammys.ocunix.on.ca (James McOrmond)
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: Re:  Freenet & Datapac
Date: 22 Jan 93 05:05:25 GMT
Organization: Jammy's Amiga Corner BBS - Ottawa, On, Canada

>is 85400010.  The client needs a network user identifier so that the
>billing goes to the client.  Once connected, he'll get from us a couple of

What kind of charging situation is there for a local connection?  Ie,
connecting to FreeNet through Datapac?  I've been having loads of fun
connecting to the 2400bps modems (galdalf?), and am just wondering if the
Datapac line is any faster.


--
 James A McOrmond - Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA! - ZyXEL 16.8k V32bis Modem!
 Fidonet#1:163/165.0 - (613)521-0648 - VBBS Amiga Intuitionized BBS
 UUCP: Jam@Jammys.OCUnix.On.Ca - Amiga 3000T/25/5 - 383Megs
Newsgroups: ott.general
From: aa393@Freenet.carleton.ca (Ramesh Fernando)
Subject: Re: Freenet & Datapac
Organization: National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:47:41 GMT


remember what Andrew Patrick was telling us after the meeting,
most people universally consider <RETURN> key or Enter as the
connection, only problem is they have a new server which can
only handle 7-E-1 after hitting return. BTW I don't understand
what 7 bit Even polarity 1 stop bit exactly means either :-)
They better get this fixed eh..
-- 
Ramesh Fernando                   I am OOP guy so 
aa393@freenet.carleton.ca         Class Disclaimer
Ramesh_Fernando@qube.ocunix.on.ca    self myWordsAreMine
Newsgroups: ott.general
From: colinm@max.carleton.ca (Colin McFadyen)
Subject: Re: Freenet & Datapac
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:32:36 GMT

In <jam.5203@jammys.ocunix.on.ca> jam@jammys.ocunix.on.ca (James McOrmond) writes:

>>  The donated Gandalf modems are very simple modems that don't do
>>data compression or error correction.

>And they completely fail to connect if your modem attempts to do
>compression.  This isn't true when I call from my Supra24 to/from my
>ZyXEL16.8.

As stated many times before, the 2400 bps modems here at CU don't do
any type of compression or error correction.  That's why it has to
be disabled on the originating modem.  Part of the user education 
of connecting to FreeNet will have to include telling the user not
to use compression as well as 2400 8,N,1.  I know you think that
this is a big deal and that users won't understand, but give them
some credit, it's really not that difficult. 

>>  As for Freenet being killed by these modems, tell that to the 3300+
>>people that connected last week!!

>Ya, but your forgetting to mention the (at least) 20000+ failed connects. 
>I got 5 bad connects myself before I switched modems to connect.

Ya, right!! 

>--
> James A McOrmond - Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA! - ZyXEL 16.8k V32bis Modem!
> Fidonet#1:163/165.0 - (613)521-0648 - VBBS Amiga Intuitionized BBS
> UUCP: Jam@Jammys.OCUnix.On.Ca - Amiga 3000T/25/5 - 383Megs
> Email costs - please don't send any UUEncoded files!
-- 
Colin McFadyen -- Carleton U. Computing and Communications Services
Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1S 5B6                  
colinm@ccs.carleton.ca

Newsgroups: ott.general
From: aa385@Freenet.carleton.ca (Brian Rempel)
Subject: Re: Freenet phone #
Reply-To: aa385@Freenet.carleton.ca (Brian Rempel)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:38:38 GMT


The phone number is 780-3733.

For now, the parity is Even, 7 bit, 1 stop bit.
 


//~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\\
            ___             aa385@Freenet.carleton.ca
           |_:_|            ah602@yfn.ysu.edu (Brian Rempel)
             |              cp091@cleveland.freenet.edu
        @'~~\|/~~'@         brempel@Heartland.Bradley.Edu
            /^\             ua335@Freenet.victoria.bc.ca
          /     \
        ~~       ~~
        Brian Rempel  -   the "Bit Man"   -   travelin' the  'nets

                            originating from Ottawa, Ontario
                                                 CANADA
\\                                                                   //
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


-- 
Newsgroups: ott.general
From: paynter@bnr.ca (Stuart Paynter)
Subject: Re: Request and Warning
Reply-To: paynter@bnr.ca (Stuart Paynter)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 13:32:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.003736.23461@zoonews.bnr.ca>, clippy@bnr.ca (Dwayne Clipperton) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan21.192104.8492@bmers145.bnr.ca>, mcbrayne@bmerh933.bnr.ca (John McBrayne) writes:
|> |> 
|> |> Mont Cascades has to be one of the worst places for ski theft (probably
|> |> because most people skiing there at night are there for lessons, and the
|> |> crooks KNOW lessons end at 9 and most everyone will be inside for an hour
|> |> or so for a few apres-lesson drinks).
|> ...
|> |> P.S. Just in case you didn't know, if you have house/tenant insurance you're
|> |> likely covered for the theft (but usually with a $200 deductible). Look at it
|> |> as a $200 upgrade to a brand new pair of skis and bindings!
|> |> 
|> |> ..John
|> |> 
|> |>                      
|> 
|> I plan to go skiing shortly and I paid less than $200 for my used skis.
|> Are any of the locking devices for skis worthwhile?  I don't want
|> something so big that I have to keep it in the car.?.?.? -:)
|> 
|> I assume, that there must be some small shackling device that will make
|> it a nuisance for would-be theifs.


Dwayne, I need those skis back now :)  There are a variety of locks for skis
available in most skis stores/Sports Experts etc.  They are $15-$40.  Another
method (which didn't work in my case) is to separate the skis at the racks
when you go in.  Most ski thefts are grab and run, so a thief isn't going
to waste time with a lock or looking for another ski unless they really 
want your skis in particular.  Lock 'em or lose 'em.

Stu
Newsgroups: ott.general,bnr.general
From: william@bnr.ca (William Moss)
Subject: Musical "Sweet Charity" this week
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 19:54:09 GMT

JCC Theatreworks, a non-profit teen theatre group, is presenting the
musical Sweet Charity, this week at the Centrepointe Theatre.

Showtimes: Thursday Jan 28  8pm
           Friday   Jan 29 12 noon (matinee)
           Saturday Jan 30  8 pm
           Sunday   Jan 31  2 pm (matinee) 

Tickets are $15.00, available from the Centrepointe Theatre box office,
Nepean Civic Square, 101 Centrepointe Drive, Nepean. Phone the 
box office at 727 6650 for more details, or to order tickets.

This group has presented several popular musicals in the past few years,
including Chicago, Grease, Little Shop of Horrors, West Side Story, and 
Fiddler on the Roof, all to great reviews. 

-- 
===========================================================================
William G. Moss                      disclaimer: not the views of BNR or NT
Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa  +1 613 763 8108 WILLIAM@BNR.CA  
===========================================================================



Newsgroups: ott.general
From: dave@revcan.rct.ca (David Blackwood)
Subject: Re: Freenet & Datapac
Organization: Revenue Canada, Taxation; Office Communications Division
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:33:11 GMT

In article <colinm.727993956@cunews> colinm@max.carleton.ca (Colin McFadyen) writes:
>As stated many times before, the 2400 bps modems here at CU don't do
>any type of compression or error correction.  That's why it has to
>be disabled on the originating modem.  Part of the user education
>of connecting to FreeNet will have to include telling the user not
>to use compression as well as 2400 8,N,1.  I know you think that
>this is a big deal and that users won't understand, but give them
>some credit, it's really not that difficult.

I have a modem that supports both data compression and error correction.
I can successfully connect to virtually any modem on the market at any
speed that it supports from 300 bps on up without having to intentionally
disable these two features.  Every other modem except the Gandalfs ignore
any attempt to negotiate unsupported features and wait for the correct
tones to sync up at a speed, etc. that they do support.  The Gandalf
modems simply drop carrier whenever a calling modems attempts to
do this.  To use a modem that reacts differently from most other modems
on the market on a service that is intended to attract a broad range of
users including those not technically inclined, is unreasonable.  To
expect technically knowledgeable people to know how to fix this (and to
correctly reset their modems afterward) may be acceptable but is
certainly unnecessary.  The FreeNet cannot be in the business of
educating people in the use of technology, we don't have the resources.
We have to make it so simple and reliable that people don't need that
level of education.  We also don't want to be in the business of
providing paper information on how to use an electronic service, and we
can't provide electronic information if people can't connect to us
without advance knowledge and training.

The library doesn't teach people how to read, but they do provide a
range of reading material to satisfy all levels of reading ability.
-- 
D. J. Blackwood			Room 1139, 400 Cumberland Street
Systems Integration Manager	Ottawa, Ontario, Canada  K1A 0L8
Office Communications Division	voice: +1 613 957 9305, fax: +1 613 952 1095
Revenue Canada, Taxation	email: uunet.ca!revcan!dave, dave@revcan.rct.ca
From: jam@jammys.ocunix.on.ca (James McOrmond)
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: ram wanted
Date: 22 Jan 93 05:08:47 GMT
Organization: Jammy's Amiga Corner BBS - Ottawa, On, Canada


Organization: 256k x 4
Speed:        100ns or faster
Type:         Page or Static Column Mode
Package:      20 pin ZIP

if anyone had a meg of these (8 chips), please drop me a message with a
price.


--
 James A McOrmond - Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA! - ZyXEL 16.8k V32bis Modem!
 Fidonet#1:163/165.0 - (613)521-0648 - VBBS Amiga Intuitionized BBS
 UUCP: Jam@Jammys.OCUnix.On.Ca - Amiga 3000T/25/5 - 383Megs
Newsgroups: ott.general
From: rjkoop@sebastian.carleton.ca (rjkoop)
Subject: Wedding dress and stereo stands for sale.
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: ott
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:20:44 GMT

Selling the following :

	Wedding dress
	Long sleeve, traditional A-line
	V neck in back (with bow)
	Sculpted neck line
	Size 9 (fits height 5'2")
	Includes crinoline, veil and headpiece
	Asking $1200
	
	2 Stereo stands
	One in black wood and one in stained wood
	Each $70

If interested call me (Richard Koop) at 489-2347 (leave
message).


Newsgroups: ott.general
From: colinm@max.carleton.ca (Colin McFadyen)
Subject: Re: Freenet & Datapac
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:00:52 GMT

In <1993Jan23.181327.18748@cunews.carleton.ca> rmcormon@alfred.carleton.ca (Russell McOrmond) writes:

>In article <jam.5043@jammys.ocunix.on.ca> jam@jammys.ocunix.on.ca (James McOrmond) writes:
>>What kind of charging situation is there for a local connection?  Ie,

>  The best thing for you to do would be to contact Bell about
>billing/etc.

>>connecting to the 2400bps modems (galdalf?), and am just wondering if the
>>Datapac line is any faster.

>  P.S. You might want to indicate your comments on the Gandalf modems
>to Dave Sutherland in private email.  When talking to Andrew the
>discussion so far seems to always turn away from the real issues and
>to the fact that they are donated.  When some new users calls up and
>gets a 'CONNECT 2400....crackle, pop...NO CARRIER' they won't care who
>donated what, that they can type the 'magic number for freenet access'
>like  'AT&K0' for ZyXEL's, they will just no longer attempt to call
>the Freenet.

>  Special init strings for modems being required to call the Freenet
>is likely going to kill it if the problem is not solved quickly.  If
>anyone has money to donate, donate a simple 2400bps modem like one of
>the Intel chipset modems (Supra 2400bps, Intel 2400bps, etc - Something that
>doesn't have ANY error control and is extremely simple and
>compatable).

  The donated Gandalf modems are very simple modems that don't do
data compression or error correction.  The FreeNet modems have been moved
off of the Gandalf Starmaster data switch to a new terminal server
which will greatly improve performance.  On Feb. 1st, when FreeNet
goes public, people will be informed to connect at 8,N,1 (300,1200,2400)
baud with no compression or correction. (Until then use 7 even ;-)

  As for Freenet being killed by these modems, tell that to the 3300+
people that connected last week!!





-- 
Colin McFadyen -- Carleton U. Computing and Communications Services
Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1S 5B6                  
colinm@ccs.carleton.ca

Newsgroups: ott.general
From: don@bcars194.bnr.ca (Don Skanes)
Subject: VT180 for sale
Keywords: VT180
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: ott
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:42:51 GMT




For sale:

 1 VT180 - This is a VT100 with an 8080 card built-in.
 1 DECwriter IV
 2 dual 5 1/4" Floppy drives
 comes with CP/M plus other various software.


 All for $250.00 O.B.O.

call 737-7408 or EMAIL don@bnr.ca
From: jam@jammys.ocunix.on.ca (James McOrmond)
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: sale
Distribution: world
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:03:51 EST
Organization: Jammy's Amiga Corner BBS - Ottawa, On, Canada


Clearance Sale:  (posted for a friend, don't reply here or netmail)


Panasonic 24pin printer (mint condition)

Panasonic Portable CD player with Xtra bass and Remote

Sony portable speakers that sound great with a CD

Ikea "LOGG" stereo shelf (mint condition)

call 727-8973 and ask for Mahan

--
 James A McOrmond - Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA! - ZyXEL 16.8k V32bis Modem!
 Fidonet#1:163/165.0 - (613)521-0648 - VBBS Amiga Intuitionized BBS
 UUCP: Jam@Jammys.OCUnix.On.Ca - Amiga 3000T/25/5 - 383Megs
 Email costs - please don't send any UUEncoded files!

Newsgroups: ott.events
From: dave@revcan.rct.ca (David Blackwood)
Subject: Re: Ottawa Carleton Unix Users' Group
Organization: Revenue Canada, Taxation; Office Communications Division
Distribution: ott
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:55:26 GMT
Supercedes: <C0rtzy.2Ly@revcan.rct.ca>


The next meeting of the Ottawa Carleton Unix Users' Group will be held
on Wednesday, February 17th, 1992 at 7:30 pm in Room A3, Algonquin
College, Rideau Campus, 200 Lees Avenue.  (Room A3 is at the extreme
southeast end of the campus.)

The speaker this month will be Jim Sullivan, Manager, System Engineering
Group, SCO Canada who will be speaking on multiprocessing and SCO MPX.

    The simple PC has progressed significantly over the past three years
    with the introduction of industry-standard multiprocessor platforms.
    The systems stretch the definition of a Personal Computer, offering
    power and performance at a price point that breaks all previous
    records.  Unfortunately, there is a general misunderstanding of how
    multiprocessing works in the Intel/Open Systems environments and
    where/when you will see benefits.

    SCO currently ships the only shrink-wrapped open system operating
    system that supports multiprocessing.  In this talk we will discuss
    some of the features of the Intel Multiprocessing Platforms and SCO
    MPX, as well as discuss where a multiprocessing platform fits within
    a business.

    Jim Sullivan is the Manager of the System Engineering Group in SCO
    Canada.  He's been involved in UNIX and Open Systems for 8 years,
    first as a developer for HCR Corporation and subsequently as a
    Operating System Product Specialist and System Engineer.  SCO is the
    leader in installed UNIX systems, with over 25% of the total installed
    UNIX systems and over 75% of the installed Intel UNIX systems.

Please note that the date of the March meeting has been changed to March
24th, 1993.  This is one week later the usual.

The Ottawa Carleton Unix Users' Group (also sometimes known as ocunix
and as OCRI Unix) is sponsored by the Ottawa Carleton Research Institute
(OCRI) and meets on the third Wednesday of each month except during July
and August.  Membership is free and is open to anyone who wishes to attend.
-- 
D. J. Blackwood			Room 1139, 400 Cumberland Street
Systems Integration Manager	Ottawa, Ontario, Canada  K1A 0L8
Office Communications Division	voice: +1 613 957 9305, fax: +1 613 952 1095
Revenue Canada, Taxation	email: uunet.ca!revcan!dave, dave@revcan.rct.ca
Newsgroups: ott.events
From: barry@dgbt.doc.ca (Barry McLarnon)
Subject: Packet Radio Meeting Jan 28
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Distribution: ott
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 14:18:12 GMT

Sorry about the short notice, but...

The regular bimonthly meeting of the Ottawa Amateur Radio Club Packet Radio
Group will take place this Thursday, Jan 28, at 7:30pm.  Location is the
auditorium of the Museum of Science and Technology on St Laurent.

Featured speaker for the meeting will be Andrew Patrick of the Communications
Research Centre, who will talk about the National Capital FreeNet and
provide a live demo of the system.

The second part of the program will include a presentation on the amateur
packet radio scene in the Toronto area by Michael Durrant from the Ryerson
Amateur Radio Club, plus updates on Ottawa-area packet network projects.

Everyone is welcome!

Barry

-- 
Barry McLarnon                  |  Internet: barry@dgbt.doc.ca
Communications Research Center  |  AMPRnet:  barry@bbs.ve3jf.ampr.org
Ottawa, Canada  K2H 8S2         |  PBBSnet:  ve3jf@ve3jf.#eon.on.can
Newsgroups: tn.general
From: friedman@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Jeff Friedman)
Subject: Vanderbilt Vs UT --- Need Tix
Followup-To: tn.general
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:08:19 GMT

Anyone have any extra tickets for this game?

-jeff
Newsgroups: tn.flame
From: mac@ur.utk.edu (Richard J. McDougald)
Subject: Anything
Organization: University of Tennessee 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:30:09 GMT

Well, I'm willing to flame anyone: liberal, conservative, atheist,
bible thumper (especially bible thumpers), etc., but hell, there's 
nobody alive in this newsgroup TO flame...
Newsgroups: tn.flame
From: mitcheec@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (Elliott Mitchell)
Subject: Re: Anything
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:51:00 GMT

In article <mac.161@ur.utk.edu>, mac@ur.utk.edu (Richard J. McDougald) writes...
>Well, I'm willing to flame anyone: liberal, conservative, atheist,
>bible thumper (especially bible thumpers), etc., but hell, there's 
>nobody alive in this newsgroup TO flame...

The nice thing about this list was that nobody was flaming anyone. Sort of 
like having a war and nobody showing up.  Maybe we could flame third 
parties rather than each other!


+ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
| Elliott Mitchell.Peabody College.Vanderbilt University
|  Nashville, Tenn. Home of the Grand Ole Opry
|  IN: mitcheec@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu | BN: MITCHEEC@VUCTRVAX
Newsgroups: tn.talk
From: mac@ur.utk.edu (Richard J. McDougald)
Subject: HMMMMM....
Organization: University of Tennessee 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:27:45 GMT

Good Lord, has everyone lost their net access or something?

Who created this newsgroup?  Everybody die, or what?