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From: maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple Moriji)
Subject: Re: Real Rock and Roll
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:44:47 GMT


dcarter@supra.East.Sun.COM (Dave Carter-Sun-Atlanta GA-Atlanta District MCC) writes:
: FUCK: Def Leppard, White Lion, Warrant, and all the pussy bands on the radio.
: 
: I can not beleive people actually think that the new Def Leppard is rock and roll,
: it's the biggest piece of top 40 bubble gum music I have ever heard. SOrry to flame these bands, but get real, Def Leppard sucks, and they get worse every album they
: make. SUre they sell alot of albums, but so does New Fags on the Block. Just because
: you sell alot of albums doesn't mean you are good, it just means they found a niche,
: teeny bopper fags. 
: 
: LIsten to some old Aerosmith, if you want to hear good rock and roll, 
: ROCKS, and GET YOUR WINGS are 2 kick ass albums.
: 
: If we get lucky, a few more mishaps and DEF LEPPARD will be no more!
: 
: David

I completely agree with you, my friend.  I think we might actually win
this Poser War!  With the creation of alt.r-n-r.hard, and the renaming
of the metal newsgroups to alt.music.metal... we may be able to
eliminate posers from this newsgroup forever, and imprison them in
alt.r-n-r.hard.  Until this condition is met, my Master and I will
continue flaming posers on ALL the rock-n-roll newsgroups.

"Follow me now and you will not regret" - Black Sabbath

lADA,

Maple

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 | maple@sparko.gwu.edu          |  man is that life is meaningless.          |
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 09:49:02 EDT
From: <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: NO, FUCK YOU ASHIM!!!
 <1992Apr9.122039.29651@cis.ohio-state.edu>

In article <1992Apr9.122039.29651@cis.ohio-state.edu>,
chhabra@boa.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tall Loser One) says:
>
>        Mr Suaron, Sauron, So Wrong, whatever.. Would you kindly oblige
>from wasting bandwidth on this newsgroup. We all know you have nothing better
>to do than bash others' musical tastes, those that are different from yours.
>We all also know you are a sociopathic loser who can't get no pussy so you
>come
>and hide behind your terminal reviving your ego by telling people where they
>belong and what not to listen to. Give it up Suaron and GET A LIFE!!!!!
>                                -sincerely,
>                                    Ashim

    Well Mr., Mrs., Miss Ashim, whatever.  How can you dare accuse me
of wasting bandwidth when you yourself just have by flaming me.  You
could have expressed your discontent with my posts via email but instead
you choose to post it.
    I'm so glad I've had the privledge of annoying you Ashim, for know
you know how I feel everytime I have to wade through countless articles
of G'n'P and Def Leppard.
    Oh and one more thing...tell your mother I'll be over at 8!

--The more an individual wants to rebel, the harder the music they
  choose to listen to. Your relatively well-adjusted kids tend to
  listen to something like Motley Crue or Metallica. The kids who
  really want to shock or have some level of emotion difficulty
  gravitate toward something like Slayer.
                      Robert Gross, Susquehanna University of Pennsylvania

President Suaron
From: h309@ellis.uchicago.edu (Tri-Ryche)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Led Zeppelin
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:07:33 GMT
Reply-To: h309@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Mindcrime


 Is the Led Zeppelin "Remasters" any good? The Rose records by my house has it,
and I already have the box set, but I'm intersted in the interview disc.

- Tri-Ryche
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: PRAISE BROCKUM, LORD OF ALL THINGS ETERNAL AND FLESHLY
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:20:01 PDT

In article <1992Apr8.155533.10185@ncsu.edu>, cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS) writes:
>>> 
>>> sajfkasdflkjas
>>> 
> 
>>	Is this a Bible verse?
> 
> Brockum is the name of the company that makes t-shirts for Metallica, Slayer,
> Testament....

	Yeah, I know.  I use the name to stand in as a synonym for Satan to
annoy ignorant Xians...
> 
> 
> "A social conscience is like a garden shed. You try and eat it, it'll stick in
>    your throat"                -Mike  -The Young Ones
> 
> 
> Chris Georgoulias
From: TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Def Leppard (again)!
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:23:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92097.142349TJK115
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Apr6.160801.24677@DMI.USherb.CA>, villj00@DMI.USherb.CA
(JONATHAN VILLIARD) says:
>
>        Hello folks...
>
>
>        I'd like to konw if the dead guitarist of Def Leppard was the
                                                               ^^^
> leader of the band. Did he wrote a lot for them in the past albums?
> For the new album?
>
>                                Thanx a lot...
>

What do you mean by was?  He still IS!!!  Even from the grave he
still commands the band Def Leppard.  Def Leppard is a satanic
pop rock band didn't you know????  If I were Nimpfuck I'd stop
worring about bands like Slayer and attack Def Leppard!!!! (Glad
I am that I'm not Nimpfuck, mind you)

If you don't believe me then why are they continually spreading this
curse thing.  I'm telling you Def Leppard is evil!!!!

Btw, Darn I wanted to be the drummer, oh well I guess I'll have to
settle for THE VOICE!

--the mocking religion of hatred that burns in the night
Suaron
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender)
Subject: Re: Def Leppard's ADRENALIZE  3/31
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:47:13 GMT

>>> 	Can anyone out there confirm that Vivian Campbell (Dio) is the new  
>>> guitarist?  Now there's a man who can do great things for Def Leppard.
>>> Anyone else know if the rumor is true that John Sykes(Whitesnake,Blue  
>>> Murder) did a couple of tracks on the album?
>>> 						MJD
>> 
>
>Lou Grahm was in WNY this past weekend for ROCKEXPO and told 97 Rock reporter,   
>Mark Stout that the band was taking some time off because Viv was touring with
>Def Leppard.
>
	IICCKKK!!! Not Vivian Campbell. He's a good guitarist and all, and as
a hired touring musician, would be alright, but he just not Def Leppard. 
Although, I probably wont be satisfied with anyone they choose, there have
got to be others they could get as a full time replacement for Clark.

_______________________________________________________________________________
From:     		jamesb@redrock.nevada.edu
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From: sharris@isis.cs.du.edu (Steve Harris)
Subject: Iron Maiden Gifs
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 06:18:11 GMT


Hi
Recently I went through the files at cs.uwp.edu for lyrics and found the
gif directory there
I grabbed all the Iron Maiden gifs but strangly they weren't gif files...
Anyway, it was enough to get me interested in getting some....
Does anyone out there have any Iron Maiden gif files that they could post
to me?? Hmmm...for that matter any megadeth or metallica too....
If ya's could, yet again, it'll be muchly appreciated ;)
Later dudes

UP THE IRONS!!!

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: dominimj@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Michael J Dominick)
Subject: Re: DOKKEN?
Reply-To: dominimj@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Michael J Dominick)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:42:26 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.011247.16883@cs.rose-hulman.edu>  
sohaneps@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Patrick S Sohaney) writes:
> In article <3APR199218594174@juliet.caltech.edu>  
dougp@juliet.caltech.edu  
> (Peterson, Douglas) writes:
> > In article <1992Apr4.011631.2544@acsu.buffalo.edu>,  
> becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker) writes...
> 
>  I don't know if Jeff Pilson is touring with 
> > >McAuley-Schenker Group, and I don't know about any new Don Dokken  
> projects.
> > > 
> > >--Don
> > 
> > Jeff Pilson is definitely not touring with MSG on their current tour.
> > It was just a studio gig for Jeff.  As far as I know, he's still 
> > playing clubs as the frontman and bassist of War and Peace.  I 
> > hope they land a record deal pretty soon. 
> 
> 	The simple fact that Pilson will never play or record with Dokken  
> again is because, basically, he was blinded by the shear brilliance and  
> skill of Lord and Master Michael Schenker's playing.  He's realized that  
> Lynch is basically a musically illiterate, "Eddie Van Halen" wanna-be.
> 	Any future Dokken will definitely need a replacement bassist.  
> 
> 				Ne.

	Bored, Pat?  Homework getting to you?  So what, Lynch can't read  
music.  However, Michael Schenker can only dream of playing his guitar  
like George Lynch does.  As for Jeff Pilson, if he wants to join Don  
Dokken and George Lynch get back together, that's his perogative.  Can't  
wait till April 28 for the Lynch Mob release.

					MJD
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Your lips they speak, lies and misery
I know its wrong but I can't turn away
The flames draw near, they're telling me to stay
			- "Into the Fire"
			-     DOKKEN
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple Moriji)
Subject: Re: Slash is not a racist!!! (Get SUARON off this board)
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:54:08 GMT


TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu () writes:
:In article <1992Apr9.145451.12545@acsu.buffalo.edu>,
:v085pcqr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (WAYNE CAMPBELL) says:
:>
:>there's a nice little news group right next door called alt.rock-n-roll.metal
:>heavy that i think you might want to check out.  i think you belong there...
: 
: I know about the neighboring group and I read it and post to it.
: But still even there I'm not free from G'n'R and Def Leppard.  Besides
: this is the mother metal group and it should be purged of posers
: before a side group is.  Btw, I'm glad I make you sick to your stomach
: it gives me that warm feeling inside, like fresh blood,  No every fuckin'
: band out there is not a poser, just every other fuckin' one posted about
: here is.

I agree.  Alt.r-n-r.metal.heavy is filled with poser shit like GNR and
Dance Leppard.  I see no difference between these 2 metal newsgroups.
Someone mentioned a while back that alt.r-n-r.metal.heavy is the biggest
failure he has ever seen, and it's true!  This leads to only one possible
solution: posers must be eliminated from both newgroups.  If you
posers leave right this minute to alt.r-n-r I'll spare your lives.
Otherwise, prepare for a painfull death!  I'll take you posers one by one
to Room 101!!

C++ ya,

Maple

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 | Maple Moriji                  |  The only absolute knowledge attainable by |
 | maple@sparko.gwu.edu          |  man is that life is meaningless.          |
 | George Washington University  |                                 -- Tolstoy |
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From: AstralWizard@cup.portal.com (Damon M Pike)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Drums, etc.
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 22:32:31 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <1992Apr2.033513.18938@seas.gwu.edu>
  <TIBBS.92Apr2000440@karazm.math.uh.edu>
  <1992Apr7.162433.3698@sinkhole.unf.edu>


The top 3 drummers (percussionists) for thrash/metal are most
definately

#3 Ted Parsons (PRONG)
#2 Dave Lombardo (SLAYER)
and 
#1 Vinnie (fucking hostile) Paul (PANTERA)


Late you fucking posers!!!


..AW
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: tibbs@karazm.math.uh.edu (Jason Tibbitts)
Subject: Re: Poison Rule Again
Organization: Blob Shop Programmers
	<1992Apr6.152156.23750@acsu.buffalo.edu>
	<1992Apr6.220324.9610@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:34:44 GMT

"Daniel" == Daniel S. Richman <Daniel.S.Richman@dartmouth.edu> writes:

Daniel> About Maple's statement of his "long hair" and concerts: I know
Daniel> very few full-fledged metalheads who sit in front of their
Daniel> computers all day and post things on a network at George Washington
Daniel> University.  I see him as a horn-rimmed fucking geek.

I may not exist at George Washington University, but you can count me as
one raging metalhead that sits in front of a computer all day and posts
messages all over the place.  I go to concerts (and work at them, too, for
at my other job I am a stage technician and licensed pyrotechnician) and I
have hair down to my ass to boot.  Big deal.

Why is it that you must associate computer use with "geekiness" and
listening to metal with lack of intelligence?  What difference does the
length of hair or the necessity of vision correction make when one is
concerned with intelligence or musical preference?

You just can't stereotype people.
--
Jason L. Tibbitts III  | System Administration and User Support:
"Blob Shop Programmers:| University of Houston Mathematics Dept.
 Because We're Bored!" | Moderator: comp.sys.amiga.reviews
Disclaimer: Opinions are my own, not those of the UH System.
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From: swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Body Count
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:23:10 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Apr15.230113.20727@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rroberts@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ross Allan Roberts) writes:
>>Nope - it's not just that one tune... Body Count is an all-thrash band.
>>A pretty decent one, at that.
>
>Sort of... Body Count has done three songs, from what I can remember. This so


Well, there's a whole Body Count album out now.  It's called _Cop Killer_.


-- 
Steve Swann                 |    Speak to me in many voices; make
swann@acsu.buffalo.edu      |      them all sound like one...  -BOC
From: jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: HEAVY BASS??????????
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:52:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.1992Apr7.015246.6967
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


   You should check out probably one of the fastest bass players in Metal.
   I am thinking of Steve (or Phil I'm not sure) Harris of Iron Maiden, one
   of the greatest heavy metal bands ever.  The songs have a lot of bass and
   he plays so fast.  (also when he plays it sounds like he's riding a horse)
   You might want to check out PRIMUS.  There is a shit load of bass in Primus.
   Not necessarily heavy but very unique interesting.     

-- 
=====================================================
= John Meseke      email-jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu  =
= "Some gals like to kiss my face.  Is it luck?"    =
==============================-Les Claypool==========
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: *MENTAL FLATULENCE DURING LYRICAL ANALYSIS!*
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:12:22 PDT

In article <1992Apr8.042027.2706@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Kevin.J.Feury@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury) writes:
>> Metallica are describing how soldiers are supposed to be mindless uncaring
>> robots in the song No Remorse.  IMHO
> 
> actaully, i don't think it's so intelligently thought through. in view
> of the  entire KEA album, i'd say that it represents more of the fuck
> you fuck me fuck us all...


	Really?  How so?  "Blood feeds the war machine..."  I think it's more
of a thought-provoking song on an album blessed with few of them.

<c>.

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender)
Subject: Re: Important: Please Read
Organization: University of Nevada System, Computing Services
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 21:12:29 GMT

	Wow. Suaron got on all our nerves from time to time, but it's said to
think that he's dead. Sure, a lot of what he sais was bullshit, but even 
Nimpfuck would have to admit that he always kept things jumpin' around here.
In spite of all the mean things I've said about him on this and other 
newsgroups, I have to say that alt.r-n-r.* will not be the same with out him.

						James B



Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: PRAISE BROCKUM, LORD OF ALL THINGS ETERNAL AND DAMP
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:43:25 PDT

In article <1992Apr6.215023.2888@vax.muskingum.edu>, ti_hunt@vax.muskingum.edu writes:
> In article <1992Apr6.013809.1@pomona.claremont.edu>, cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu writes:
>> In article <92097.023907TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>, <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>> 
>>> sajfkasdflkjas
>>> 
>> 
>> 	Is this a Bible verse?
> 
> 
> 	No, I think he tossed his cookies.
> 

	The difference between a Bible verse and vomit being?

<c>.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Friday, 10 Apr 1992 09:59:46 EDT
From: <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Preacher vs. Suaron

In article <1198@dutiws.tudelft.nl>, vsws0110@dutiws.tudelft.nl (a82c-WI-911115)
says:
>
>as for the battle between or well-known anti-poser Suaron and the God-fearing
>"Peace", I make the following choice:
>
>[ x ]   Preacher
>[   ]    Suaron
>
>Explanation: I think a.r-n-.m is better off by receiving once a week a message
>from some benevolent idiot, then every day ten messages from Suaron, who does
>not even talk about metal, but who only talks about what is NOT metal.
>He just thinks he is the only one who knows anyone and anything about metal.
>Is he The Master OF All Knowledge or what?!?
>
>FE, "The Mocking Religion Of Hatred That Burns THe Unfaithful"
>:

Gee you moron the polls are closed its too late to vote.  I won,
and know I preside over this bboard for eternity. ( The duration
of my presidency)   I am the Master of All Knowledge!

--slide with me to your netherworld, emotion exquisite in sweet demise
President Suaron
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: sohaneps@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Patrick S Sohaney)
Subject: Re: DOKKEN?
Reply-To: sohaneps@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Patrick S Sohaney)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:12:47 GMT

In article <3APR199218594174@juliet.caltech.edu> dougp@juliet.caltech.edu  
(Peterson, Douglas) writes:
> In article <1992Apr4.011631.2544@acsu.buffalo.edu>,  
becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker) writes...

 I don't know if Jeff Pilson is touring with 
> >McAuley-Schenker Group, and I don't know about any new Don Dokken  
projects.
> > 
> >--Don
> 
> Jeff Pilson is definitely not touring with MSG on their current tour.
> It was just a studio gig for Jeff.  As far as I know, he's still 
> playing clubs as the frontman and bassist of War and Peace.  I 
> hope they land a record deal pretty soon. 

	The simple fact that Pilson will never play or record with Dokken  
again is because, basically, he was blinded by the shear brilliance and  
skill of Lord and Master Michael Schenker's playing.  He's realized that  
Lynch is basically a musically illiterate, "Eddie Van Halen" wanna-be.
	Any future Dokken will definitely need a replacement bassist.  

				Ne.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: jeremyl@screech.owlnet.rice.edu (Jeremy Lyn Hart)
Subject: Re: Suaron for alt.r-n-r.metal PRESIDENT!
Followup-To: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Keywords: Suaron, get a grip
Organization: Rice University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:26:12 GMT

In article <92097.173716TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>, <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> Its offical!  Its either me or Nimpfuck!  As President I vote to
> do the following:

[mindless shit deleted...]

> Oh! and if Nimpfuck should lose I suggest that he takes down the
> email address of everyone that voted for him.  (Cause obviously
> they stand the most chance of living up to his dreams) Then with
> the address he send you Peace letters.  If he was truely a servant
> of the lord he would do this to help his fellow man.  I however
> will not bug you with satanic messages via email whether or not
> I win!
> 
> Vote:
> [ ] Suaron
> [ ] Nimpfuck
> Put and x in the box of the one you want to stay.
> 
> --the mocking religon of hatred that burns in the night
> Suaron

I'm voting for none of the above - hell, I wish you'd *BOTH* F.O.A.D.,
preferably somewhere else...

(I know - I'll write in Doc! ;^>)

[X] Doc Holiday

Now can we get off this stupid topic?

Later.
-- 
Jeremy L. Hart				jeremyl@owlnet.rice.edu
"As opaque warriors, we ride alone
 Guarding our secrets with souls of stone
 Waiting for someone who holds the key
 Do you hold it...do you hold the key to my heart..."
	- "Apache Teardrops," copyright 1991 by Bill Fillbach and Steve Estes
From: andrewc@spider.co.uk (Andrew Cannon)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Suaron for alt.r-n-r.metal PRESIDENT!
Date: 8 Apr 92 08:46:35 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <1992Apr7.011038.29748@seas.gwu.edu> maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple Moriji) writes:
>[X] Suaron
>[ ] Nimpfuck
>
>I know many of you are thinking of voting for Nimpfuck, just
>because he posts less than Suaron.  But just wait a second...
>do you really want to hand over this newsgroup to a preacher?
>OF COURSE NOT!  Nimpfuck has no love for metal, whether it is
>real metal or poser music.  Suaron, on the otherhand, is a
>true leader of the heavy metal cause.  So please, vote for
>my master Suaron, and keep religious fanatics out of alt.r-n-r.metal!
>
How does Maple breath with so much shit up his nose ? (from Suaron's bum)

Has anyone in America managed to hear any of the Almighty's material yet ?
Two albums and one mini album so far.

       "Blood, Fire and Love"
       "Blood, Fire and Live"   Live Mini album.
       "Soul Destruction"
If you like metal, buy them. You won't be disapointed.

       Andy

-- 
| Andy - andrewc@spider.co.uk  |   He's just a boy,         "Renegade" |
|                              |   That has lost his way.       by     |
|  Or you children of today    |   He's a rebel,               Thin    |
| Are children of the Grave.   |   and he's fallen down        Lizzy   |
From: sh_strawn@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Where is it from?
Date: 12 Apr 92 20:27:25 -0600
Organization: Muskingum College

hey, Sean, i've wondered too about that little blurb.  my guess is that it was
a sound bit recorded at a real life hospital by some studio/sound man or
something.  in movies, tv, and i guess the music buz as well, i think you and i
both would be surprised at the percentage of stuff we hear that's not actual
footsteps in a hallway, or dripping water on the set, or guitars and drums. 
dialog and actual music is the only thing that isn't dubbed in afterward,
probably.

how about the nurse?  as she walks, she whistles a phrase from 'the mission".
just an observation.  did you like empire as much as mindcrime and rage for
order?  my favorite queensryche song:  gonna get close to you, from rage.  i
like the older ones better.  but empire is by no means less than spectacular. 
these guys are just amazing musicians with a vision that says they care about
headbangers that like to think a little bit in between bangs.  can't wait to
see what they come up with next.

-shane s.-
			
<no phenomenal sig and quote til i figure out the editor.  sorry, the
					management.>

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy