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From: foggh@sargon.crd.ge.com (H.W. Fogg)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,can.general,ont.general,soc.culture.canada,ott.general
Subject: Re: Bicycle Paths
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:25:15 GMT
Reply-To: foggh@sargon.crd.ge.com (H.W. Fogg)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

In article <rjg.712440445@guinan>, rjg@doe.carleton.ca (Richard
Griffith) writes:
|>In <rjg.712346442@guinan> rjg@doe.carleton.ca (Richard Griffith) writes:
|>
|>>	1) Announce the intention to pass the pedestrian. This usually causes
|>>	the pedestrian to move suddenly to one side or the other, into the
|>>	previously clear path the cyclist had intended to use.
|>
|>I use this method 90% or more of the time, however:
|>
|>How would you like it if every car that
|>passed you on the road honked its horn as it passed you. This action
indicates
|>that the passing vehicle thinks you were not aware of or anticipating the
|>the action of passing. Any vehicle or person on a roadway or bicycle path
|>should always be aware of other vehicles, that is part of the responsibility
|>of being on the roadway. If pedestrians on bike paths are not capable of
|>being aware of their situation, or at least anticipating it, they are
a hazard.
|>
|>Why all the signs on bicycle paths and shared sidewalks, to notify the 
|>pedestrians that they should be aware of bicycles sharing this non-roadway
|>surface.
|>
|>Honking and bells should be reserved for ``unusual situations''
otherwise they
|>just become to common and end up being ignored.
|>
|>Objections please.
                        
I ride ~20 miles each day on a bike path and have found that always
announcing myself to anyone that I am overtaking has produced the best
results. I usually only pass 5 to 10 people or groups of people from the
rear during each outing so I am not constantly yelling out. Unless they
were directly in my path I used to pass without saying anything. This
caused too many near misses at 20 mph because of sudden movements or
swerving on their part. I then tried clicking my brake levers to subtly
announce my prescence. This usually made them aware of my presence but
sometimes caused them to get in my path while trying to get out of my
way. My current strategy comes from my downhill skiing background. When
one skier overtakes another is is customary to yell out ON YOUR LEFT or
ON YOUR RIGHT. I make it a practice of always passing on the left so now
I yell out PASSING ON YOUR LEFT PLEASE early enough to allow them to
realize what I said and translate it into some action, which so far has
been to stay in their current track or to move farther off to the right.
Also, as an apology for yelling at them, I always say THANK YOU as I pass them.
I don't know if this strategy would work if there were a lot of people
or children on the path. In that case I would probably just change my
ride time. I have found that there are not a lot of people on the
pathway at 5:30 am.
From: pm3_norr@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (Paul Norris)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Amazing Stories
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:57:11 GMT
Organization: Bristol Polytechnic, England


 rct@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Richard Taylor) writes:
 (Ben Elliston) writes:
}>him .. armed with bloody nunchuckers!  "My God!", I thought!
}
}Ummmm, what's a nunchucker?
}Up 'til then I was fascinated, but I think the punchline's in Aussie...
}Translate for a limey...

Well, this limey understood.

Martial arts weapon - two chunks of wood (usually cylindrical?), joined
end to end by a short length of chain:

         __________________         __________________
        (                  )ooooooo(                  )
         ------------------         ------------------

Kind of like that

Paul
-- 
Nothing takes the taste out of peanut butter quite like unrequited love.
                                            --  Charlie Brown
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: black-michael@CS.YALE.EDU (Michael Black)
Subject: Re: yakima vs thule opinions wanted
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 23:13:30 GMT


I have had some recurring problems with my Thule rack.  I have 
broken three of the straps that hold the rear wheel in the tray.
Seems like a design flaw (and no, I don't believe I was
over-tightening them).  The straps are plastic and seem too brittle
so I have replaced them with simple nylon straps.

Other than that, I've been a happy customer.

Michael Black
black@cs.yale.edu

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: fyhg8422@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Frederick Y Huang)
Subject: Re: Help! Knee Pain
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:22:10 GMT


In article <Bs5pLp.B56@news.udel.edu> wilhited@brahms.udel.edu (Douglas Ben Wilhite) writes:

>>   YIPES!!! Hang on a sec..  Aspirin is far, far, far from being an anti-    
>>   inflamatory agent.  In fact, it is quite the opposite - its primary action
>>   is to cause a general vasodilation, increasing blood flow to most parts of
>>   the body.
>>
>>   DON'T take aspirin, unless you want your knee to swell.

joeh@ami.sps.mot.com (Joe Hollinger) replies:

>"More recently it has become clear that the prostaglandin hypothesis
>explains only some of the effects of asprin and related compounds.
>Their crucial *anti-inflamatory* power appears to to stem not only
>from from protaglandin inhibition but from their ability to disrupt
>interactions within cell membranes."

>Gerald Weissmann, Asprin, Scientific American, January 1991 at 84
>(emphasis added).

I'll second that.  Every doctor and sports therapist I've ever seen for such
injuries has always prescribed aspirin or ibuprofen over acetominophen (or
however you spell that) specifically for it's anti-inflammatory properties.
What Douglas states is precisely why it IS anti-inflammatory:  aspirin and
ibuprofen thin the blood somewhat (which is why heart disease patients are now
taking it every day- to help prevent clots) and won't let it build up inside
your knee, causing it to swell.  Increased blood flow is not a bad thing- from
what I understand, good blood flow is critical to the healing of a joint 
injury.  Hence the 20 minutes on, 20 minutes off ice treatment.  Supposedly,
when the ice is put on, your blood vessels do shrink.  But after the removal
of the ice, they expand even a little larger than normal, increasing blood 
flow, and helping the joint heal itself.  By the way, I was also told that
ibuprofen is a derivative of aspirin, which is why it is also anti-inflammatory.


Any additional info either confirming or disputing this would be appreciated.
I'm certainly no doctor, but I do know about pain.

Fred
fred@uigelf.ece.uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl Landis)
Subject: Re: Bike Police
Reply-To: ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl Landis)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 19:59:11 GMT


In a previous article, BRANDT_JOBST/HP1900_01@HPLOMG.HPL.HP.COM () says:

>From the Palo Alto "Times Tribune"
>
>An alert police officer riding a mountain bike in downtown Palo Alto
 
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>This reminds me that Palo Alto is still a pleasantly small town.
>
>jobst_brandt@hplabs.hp.com
>

The first time I saw police bike patrols was in Savannah, Georgia
this past March.  It is a good place for bike police because the
streets are so narrow and just about every block has a little
square on its corners that you must drive _around_ instead of through.

-Carl
From: kimmel@epx.cis.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Neophyte: Mountian Bike
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:35:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <1992Jul21.193226.29784@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu> johnj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (John A. Johnston) writes:
>
>I'm in want of a mountian bike.  I have a little 20" BMX Hutch of a few
>:
>I like the little bike because:
>I'd like a mountian bike which is:
>
From an ex-BMX rider, mountain biking is quite different.  All ATBs are
going to larger and heavier than your BMX by quite a bit.  You'll want
to spend at least $300, plus extras.  The only extra I would recommend
would be bar ends.  The bike will be maneuverable (as are almost all ATBs)
durable, and have decent shifters.  By going up to about $500-$600 youget
a much much better bike.  I'm glad I spent a little extra to get something
that will last.

>Any advice/experience?  I'm somewhat uncomfortable with the size of the
>mountian bike, but guess I'll get use to it if the seat can be far
>enough away for good weight shifting.

You usually keep your seat pretty low.  I don't know of anything that
would push your seat back.

>Also any comments on must-have accessories like security (for riding to
>the camera shop) etc.  I'm more into riding than reading so I will
>probably only pick up one magazine during the selection phase (maybe
>more later if it is a bad winter).
>
I didn't find magazines very helpful when I was looking.  The reviews they
do are for bikes that are generally out of the novices price range.

Sure, it's fun to read about, but useless if you're looking to buy.  How
many people can actually BUY Greg Lemond's or Indurain's bike, or a
Kestrel, or a Trek 5500?

>Many thanks!
>-johnj

-Rick
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: kmb@controls.ccd.harris.com (Kurt Brunton)
Subject: Re: ok to soak cluster in gas? Lemond the wimp!
Originator: kmb@rs2
Organization: Harris Controls
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:41:52 GMT


|>  Somebody suggested flushing a freewheel
|> with water after cleaning with solvent.  The water will be much harder
|> to get rid of than the solvent; it's likely to hang around inside and 
|> rust things.
|> 
|> Even if you do leave traces behind, will they really break down your lube,
|> or just dilute it until they evaporate?
|> 

	If you've never tried to clean a free wheel, let me tell you from
experience.  The best way to clean any freewheel is to take it completely apart
and clean each piece separately, but have fun putting it back together again.  As
a former racer and bike shop owner, I have always soaked freewheels in gas and
then rinssed with water.  You can always leave it sit around to air dry as long
as you don't leave it too long (try a couple of hours).  If you have an air
compressor, this will work to blow the water out, if not, then use the lungs that
god gave you and that cycling has built up and blow as much water out as
possible.  Don't try to kill yourself, a few blows will do.  Then use a heavy
weight motor oil and pour it around the top and bottom edges.  It helps to spin
the freewheel as you do this to get the oil inside.  Some freewheels (Suntour
winner pros are what I have) come with a hole on the freewheel body where the
threads are which is for oiling the freewheel.  Most times after oiling the
freewheel and then riding on it you will find that some of the excess oil has
dripped out, usually after the bike sits there is a small puddle.

	I have oiled freewheels without rinsing before, they work great until you
ride in the rain once.  When they sit, they rust, guaranteed.  I guess you could
dilute the solvent until it evaporates as mentioned, but how many times do you
really want to take off the freewheel and keep oiling it.  Also if someone
mentions greasing the freewheel, forget it.   Gums things up and makes the
freewheel spin slower.

	One last thing in this post, Greg Lemond is a wimp.  Anyone making two
mil a year (probably more) whose only goal is one race for the whole season has
absolutely no excuse for dropping.  His team sponsership ends this year, so let's
hope Lemond gets the hefty pay cut that he deserves.

No damn bicycle made from letters here.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: nickh@CS.CMU.EDU (Nick Haines)
Subject: Re: Freewheel road hubs
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 17:25:21 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
	<1992Jul21.145245.17178@terminator.cc.umich.edu>
Originator: nickh@VOILA.VENARI.CS.CMU.EDU

In article <1992Jul21.145245.17178@terminator.cc.umich.edu> pauls@icecreambar.css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth) writes:

   In article <1992Jul20.221229.15946@news.cs.indiana.edu>  
   bwildasi@whale.cs.indiana.edu (Ben Wildasin) writes:

   [...]

   > The hubs would be used for recreational/century use (no racing) on rough
   > roads with a maximum bike + rider + gear load of about 180 lb (70 kg).

N.b. 70 kg ~= 155lb. 180 lb ~= 82 kg.

   Well if you're looking at Phils, you're looking at a bit of overkill  
   unless you are a very careless rider.  On the other hand, a bomber set of  
   hubs should pretty much last you forever under a 70kg load.  Wow, bike +  
   rider + gear = 70kg?  Are you a jockey or something?
From: Howard.Gerber@f88.n106.z1.fidonet.org (Howard Gerber)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Bicycle helmets (was Re:
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 08:29:12 -0500

 > I live in Ontario, and I disagree with the mandatory law, but I agree 
 > with helmets.  For me, it has nothing to do with getting a ticket, it is 
 > just one more constricting law to get money for the government. 
 
 More than that, mandatory helmet laws are part of the legislative "log 
 rolling" process. Legislators get status (promotions) by passing lots 
 of bills. Anything that is considered "generally good," and does not 
 seriously constrict the lives of the majority of the population, 
 automatically becomes a good candidate for such a bill. 
 
 In this category of laws we have required pledges to the flag in public 
 schools.  We also have manditory "side path" laws, which force 
 cyclists to ride on bike paths even when they are more dangerous than 
 streets, because car drivers consider it to be safer.  Also laws banning 
 bicycles from major roads fit into this category. 
 
 PT> Anybody who doesn't wear a bike helmet _will_ probably have their head 
 PT> examined - by a coroner. 
 
 Wearing a helmet can sometimes save your life if you have a bicycle accident 
 involving just yourself or perhaps another cyclist.  Don't be fooled into 
 thinking that bicycle helmets are some kind of armor that will protect you 
 against all sorts of accidents, especially those involving cars. Defensive 
 cycling skills are your best defense. 
 
 
... OFFLINE 1.36 * Two Wheelers Remote 

 * Origin: Two Wheelers - The Bicylists' Communications Link (1:106/88)
From: ward@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Christ Ward)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Tire Help (Mtb)
Summary: To 2.2, 2.35 or 2.5 that is the question.
Keywords: Tire help needed (mtb)
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:48:55 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL

Well my Farmer John front tire blew up today, luckly I was prepared for this.
I'm bummed, it had lots of tread left, but it was old.

The question is what to buy. I think I've narrowed it down to three tires:

1 2.2 Panaracer Dart s.c. 
2 2.35 Ritchey Zmax WCS
3 2.5 Specialized

I've got a 2.2 smoke on back, which I had up front for a bit and liked it
there (so mabey thats a consiteration also).  I'm leaning to the Ritchey,
but, I'd like to hear from folks who have run these tires up front.
Oh, the bike is a un-suspended 92 Rockhopper (so I'm sure I wouldn't have
fit problems with even the 2.5).  I don't think I'm interested in any 
other tires, but, if you have any other ideas let me know.

Chris "over bars" Ward
From: d3a132@pnl.gov (Carl P Baker)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: headset problems
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:52:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: oracle.1992Jul29.155251.5647
Reply-To: d3a132@pnl.gov
Organization: Battelle Pacific Northwest Laboratories

It sounds to me like the fork crown race is a different size
than the seat on the fork.  This (the fork) can be milled at
a bike shop; they shouldn't charge too much for that.  The
wacky-smachy thingy referred to by a previous poster is indeed
the correct tool for seating the bearing race onto the fork.

 
Carl P Baker
cp_baker@pnl.gov
509-375-2724

Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed here are not necessarily
those of anyone in particular. Further, my employer is not
responsible for any opinions herein, or for any...(humorous
slam of employer deleted in the interests of)...
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: chris@carnival.lbl.gov (Chris Moll)
Subject: Re: Question: wheel rebuilding
Keywords: n
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, California
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:01:47 GMT

>Jonathan Dodd writes:
>
>> WHAT'S WRONG WITH ARRYA? (or however you spell it)
>I have not
>used these rims but I hear a consistent complaint that tires blow off these
>rims both from users and some bike shop employees.  
>
>jobst_brandt@hplabs.hp.com

I've had Michelin Hi-Lite Pro 19C and Specialized 25C (folding), and seen
Continental GranPrix 18C all blow off Araya CTL-370 rims.  Note that all
of these are kevlar bead (folding) tires.  All were run at ~120 PSI.
The Specialized blow-off was one occurence in ~six months of use.

I don't know if the CTL-370 is still made.  If it is, don't use it as a rear
wheel.  The drive-side spokes may pull through (I've seen two of them die this
way after only a few months of use).

In general I'm leary of tires that can be EASILY put on by hand.  I don't 
know if other Araya rims are like this, although I have the impression most
are.  Other rims such as the Open-4CD may also have this problem with certain
tires.
--
Chris Moll                       (510)486-7891
---
"Blessed are they who Go Around in Circles, for they Shall
be Known as Wheels."
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:18852 ont.general:1254 can.general:3551
From: smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,ont.general,can.general
Subject: Re: Bicycle helmets (was Re: Ontario government ...)
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:18:29 GMT
Reply-To: P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Organization: University of Bristol

In article <1992Jul27.222248.2317@geovision.gvc.com> pt@geovision.gvc.com writes:
>Anybody who doesn't wear a bike helmet _will_ probably have their head
>examined - by a coroner.

I like that.  It's been my long-held opinion, though, that
helmet-wearing is 'self-selective'.  If you choose not to wear one, it
simply proves that you don't need one, because you've got nothing to
protect.

(Ann and I have worn them for years.  So far, mine's been excess
baggage.  Ann, on the other hand, has mashed hers -- car pulled out in
front -- sufficiently to make me glad that it was her helmet, and not
her head, which hit.  But don't let me try to sway you.  Like I said,
whatever you choose to do will be appropriate for you.)

-- 
Paul Smee, Computing Service, University of Bristol, Bristol BS8 1UD, UK
 P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk - ..!uunet!uknet!bsmail!p.smee - Tel +44 272 303132
From: cryan@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (scott cryan 283-4109)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: "Waxing" a chain
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:21:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Company

I have been waxing my chains for a year now (man that sounds very ... ) andI
don't think I will ever go back to using Tri-Flow or any other spray-type or drip
on lube. Besides, I like how quiet it is having waxed chains. I have Shimano 105
(uniglide) components and not a single problem with shifts. Just my $ 0.02 worth.

Finster
------------------------------------------------------------------
Scott P. Cryan                          cryan@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov
(713) 283-4109
McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Co. - Houston
        "My comments are my own, not my employer's"
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: apm@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Andrew Merritt)
Subject: Re: Putting your bike on a diet
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NSG-PWD, UK.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:39:27 GMT

roat@rrc.chevron.com (Suzanne Roat,Chevron,(510)242-5313) writes:
<details of weight saving components deleted>
: What's the point?  I'd rather lose 5 pounds myself than spend $1500 scraping a few 
: ounces of my bike.  A whole lot easier and cheaper.

Not everyone has the option of losing weight.  I couldn't afford to lose 5
pounds in weight (I also couldn't afford $1500 of upgrades either, but that's
another matter).

Andrew
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Trial set for driver who hit bicyclist
From: jbrodsky@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu (cool flowin gotta keep goin...)
Date: 25 JUL 92 17:13:12    
Reply-To: jbrodsky@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu
Distribution: world,local
Organization: UofA Hardware And Computing Knowledge Society
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4  

In article <20hm!bn.tomk@netcom.com>, tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich) writes...
>In article <1992Jul24.174603.5157@news2.cis.umn.edu> kimmel@epx.cis.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel) writes:
>>
>> He CLEARLY wanted to injure the cyclist and then
>> had no remorse for doing so.
> 
>Exactly how did you arrive at this little jem of opinion?
>He obviously had no remorse, but "wanted to injure the cyclist"?
>
>Please think before you type.


   What say, everyone in this newsgroup gets a straight pin, and gets to push
it into the Trans-Am driving High School punk, in the location of his her
choice!  I got chills reading the original post.  I am so angry, I don't
know what to do.  I think I'll get in my truck of 6500 lbs and crush the
first Trans-Am I see.  Really, It's far too short of a sentence for such a
haenous act!


      Joel Brodsky      |    "The world is filled with rock-heads!"

         jbrodsky@hacks.arizona.edu
         jbrodsky@seagull.tucson.az.us
         jbrodsky@maria.wustl.edu
         jmbrodsk@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: SSDC2@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (J Green)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: MTB Touring (and super soakers! :-)
Date: 23 Jul 92 13:21:02 GMT

>From: uevans@mcnc.org (Elizabeth A. Evans)
>Subject: Re: MTB Touring (was: Touring bicycles -- an extict breed?)
>
>Ah.  So *that's* what the third set of braze-ons on my Haro mountain
>bike is for.  I plan on using it to get someone to make a mounting for a
>Super Soaker so I can have it at the ready instead of having to pack it
>in my pannier or rack pack.  (Although in the (insultated) rack pack,
>the water does stay nice and cold...)
>
>The third set on my Haro is on my handlebar stem -----------
>                                                      |  <- here, I
>                                                             mean
>by the way... perfect for the Super Soaker mounting.

on the stem?! neato! i also carry a super soaker (the 20, a smaller model!)
i sometimes put it in my shirt pocket, but usually wear a sleeveless shirt
so put it in my front mtb bag (Blackburn). [ i managed to rig the bag to fit
on my Scott AT-4 Pro bars, but attaching the top two velcros to the top of
the Scott bars, and attaching an extra piece of velcro between the bottom
velcro and my handlebars! ]  i keep the big pocket open with the water gun
handle sticking out slightly. :-)

it would be easier if my mtb were designed to carry a super soaker, but
this'll do! :-)

happy soaking...
Janice

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From: acalabi@andy.bgsu.edu (alvaro calabia)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Alcala in TdF GC
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:42:12 GMT
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.

Somebody was asking for Raul Alcala's standings in the GC,
as far as I know, at the end of Tuesday 21's stage he
was the 21st at 26'16'' from Indurain.