HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sue_d@plato.nwu.edu (SUE DAKIMOWICZ)
Subject: Are there any Dakimowicz's out there
Followup-To: soc.culture.soviet
Organization: Northwestern Univ.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:14:49 GMT

I was wondering if there is anyone out there with the last name of
Dakimowicz?
I have never met anyone with the same last name as mine?


My father immigrated to South America from the Ukraine, so I know that
there have to be some at least still in Europe.

Well anyways, I would really like to hear from someone who is a Dakimowicz
or knows of someone by that last name.

You can e-mail me back at sue_d@plato.nwu.edu.  Thanks!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: medev@my12.sm.luth.se (Alexander Medvedev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: VNIITRANSMASH
Keywords: info wanted
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:26:55 GMT


Hi there,
Does anybody know the address or fax/phone number of the institution in
S:t Petersburg called VNIITRANSMASH. My guess that this weird abbreviation
stands for "Vsesoyuznij Nauchno-Issledovatel'skij Institut Transportnogo
Mashinostroenija". Anyway, it has something to do with robotics, IMHO.

I will appreciate any info related to the matter.

					Alexander Medvedev
					medev@sm.luth.se
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: ftsam@acad3.alaska.edu (Sergei Maurits)
Subject: Re: Solaris - the "freeway sequence"
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 05:49:28 GMT

In article <rabjab.8.718409423@golem.ucsd.edu>, rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof) writes:
>>> rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu:
> 
>>>I just saw the video of Solaris, Tarkovsky's adaptation for the
>>>screen of the Stanislaw Lem novel.
> 
>> shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu:
> 
>>This is the only Tarkovsky movie that I do not like because it completely
>>distorts Lem's original work. 
>>Lem was mad as hell at Tarkovsky for making that movie and would have
>>definitely stopped the production if he could.

The Stalker movie also distorts original work by Strugatskie brothers.
The difference is they have done it together with the director. To that time
(end of nineteen seventies-beginning of eighties) a falure to demonstrate a
deepest admiration of his work was considered a shame for so called noncon-
formist intellectuals. That situation resulted in his crisis much more than
official persecution. IMHO, his last real cinematographical success was
ZERKALO, 1975 (The mirror) but later movies don't belong to cinematograph. 
It is something else, better or worse (I personally think so), but it is 
different kind of art. It just uses film projection tecniques, but governs 
according to its own rules and laws. Or lawless.  
 
 
> I always thought it would be neat to do a remake of Solaris using
> all the latest in computer-generated special effects.  The imagery
> in the novel just begs for it!  Tarkovsky's film version just barely
> hints at the scenery and concentrates more on the story of the Kelvin's
> "guest", and other unresolved personal issues.
> 
> Jeff Bytof

Among few "special effects" of Solaris was bubbling Ocean. I read somewere
that in reality it was boiling cream of wheat (mannaya kasha) which was
photographed through the system of filters. Who was director of photography?
I quess, it was Yousov.

Serega (without CO)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: Adam Lawrence Salter <adam@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: CIS on Internet?
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 05:23:00 GMT
	<avdeyev.718377994@dsf58a>

In article <avdeyev.718377994@dsf58a>, avdeyev@dsf58a.desy.de (Dmitry Avdeyev) writes:
>nobby@carson.u.washington.edu (Vitaly Shmatikov) writes:
>
>>I was able to finger @kremvax.hq.demos.su, @moscvax.hq.demos.su and
>>@jumbo.hq.demos.su from Brown University mainframe. BTW these three
>>accounts + vxitep.itep.msk.su (Inst. for Theoretical and Experimental
>>Physics in Moscow) seem to be the only addresses nslookup recognize.
>
>Sure, it's so.
>
>>However, I couldn't rlogin or FTP to vxitep.itep.msk.su though 
>>kremvax.hq.demos.su accepts even anonymous FTP.
>
>As I already mentioned earlier, it's not possible to connect to
>*.itep.msk.su from USA. Transatlantic link has gateway wich filters
>these IP numbers.
>
>>Has anybody been able to talk to a *.su computer?
>
>Yes. It is possible from Europe to talk to *.itep.msk.su. But I
>have a problem with connection to kremvax.hq.demos.su from here. I think it's
>due to the same problem with filtering. 
>
>--
>---
>Dmitry A.Avdeyev		+49-40-8998-2583
>Computer networks analyst	USG DESY, Hamburg


  Would there be any way to telnet from Canada or U.S. to a European
public-access node and then telnet to Russia? Like through a gopher in Europe
or something?

                                                              adam
From: wojdylo@maths.uwa.oz.au (INFIDEL)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Ice T - "Cop Killer"
Date: 13 Oct 1992 11:31:03 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: madvax.maths.uwa.oz.au


Mikhail S. Verbitsky) writes:


>>This is the lyrics to the song "Cop Killer",
>>discussed awhile on this board. I never heard
>>the music, but the lyrics is quite good, IMO.


The toons, man, the toons is good too.

IMO.


jw




Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: rivk@ellis.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis)
Subject: Public Net Access, Moscow?
Reply-To: rivk@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 17:52:02 GMT




Title says it all -- I am looking for any information on
how to get net access in the Moscow area. Please email 
responses, since I don't usually read this newsgroup. Thank
you very much!

-- 
"Light one candle for those who are suffering pain we learned so long ago..."
From: hlynka@server.uwindsor.ca (Myron Hlynka)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Belorussians , Ruthenians?
Keywords: Belarus, Ruthenia, history
Date: 9 Oct 1992 15:12:15 GMT
Organization: University of Windsor, Ontario, Canada

In article <1aq4m1INN4lm@bigboote.WPI.EDU> qasama@banach.WPI.EDU (John Grossi) writes:
>

>Are Ruthenians just an old name for belorussians? 

The term Ruthenian was often used for Ukrainians. For example, when
Ukrainians came to western Canada in large numbers between 1891 and
1914, there were hundreds of bilingual Ukrainian English schools set
up. However, the language taught was called Ruthenian rather than
Ukrainian. Shortly after, the Ukrainian language was banned in the
school system. The reason for this was that the Ukrainians were from
"Austria" (i.e. from the Eastern part of the Austro Hungarian empire),
and England (hence Canada) and Austria were on opposite sides in World 
War I. Also thousands of Ukrainians in Canada were arrested and put 
in labor camps for the same reason. It did no good for the Ukrainians
to say that they were not loyal to Austria and had left Ukraine to get 
away from Austrian rule. 

You are right.that the term Ruthenia was used to describe Carpatho
Ukraine when it was briefly independent (for 2 weeks) in 1939.
Czechoslovakia gave Carpatho Ukraine its independence and Hungary
invaded.

As far as using the term Ruthenia for Belarus, we will need a
Belarus expert to comment on that. 

                                    Myron Hlynka
From: burshtey@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Alexander Burshteyn)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Ladispoli, etc.
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:45:57 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

If you are an x-Sovok and came here "the long way", i.e. through Austria
and Italy, you MUST remember Ladispoli, or Santa Marinella, or wherever you
lived there, and the life itself. For those who wasn't there, I must say
it was quite a place, especially in 1989. It would be too bad if such a
colorful and unique experience (some might say, an experience of a lifetime)
will sink into oblivion. So, if any of you were there and have something to
remember and/or to say about it, please post your opinions and memoirs.
Does anyone care to draw an analogy between Ladispoli and Casablanca
(similarities, differences)? Does anyone want to say anything about it?


Alex Burshteyn
burshtey@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
From: vadim@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: death and feminism
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:33:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohstpy.14214.2adade35

In article <1992Oct13.171421.106810@watson.ibm.com>, oleg@watson.ibm.com (Oleg Vishnepolsky) writes:
> In  <84600011@glas.apc.org>  Patricia Schwartz <margaret@glas.apc.org> writes:
>> ...
>>The message in Western European and American culture in particular
>>is: women who have sex or want to have sex MUST DIE. Then of
>>course the male hero of the story reaches some state of grace
>>in grieving for the dead woman.
> ....
>>How fantastically revolutionary this was
>>for an American girl to read - a woman who fucks and doesn't die.
> 
> It is clear to me now why in English "Fuck you" is a curse and not
> a blessing - because of a strong correlation between fucking and death.
> 
> Oleg V
   
   Bless you, my dearest! In what language do you think
"Fuck you" could mean blessing?   Just curious.
V.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: goykhman_a@apollo.hp.com (Alex Goykhman)
Subject: Re: Can white men jump?
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:22:11 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Oct12.182206.12932@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu> sasha@ldgo.columbia.edu (Alexander Krupitsky) writes:
...
>If one admits that races are not equal in some respect, why accept the
>idea that they are equal in everything else? Maybe whites are
>genetically more capable in something else? I am not saying that one
>or another race should be discriminated because it's superior or
>inferior in some respect....

    Let us, for the sake of the argument, assume that Race X
    is genetically more capable than Race Y when it comes to 
    activity Z.  So what?  This kind of knowledge is absolutely
    useless, unless one intends to discriminate on the basis of 
    race and is looking for justification.

        one's race is irrelevant -> all races are equal
...
>A little side point. Many participants of this group are Jewish (and
>this paragraph is addressed to them). I'll take a risk to guess that
>most of them, even though aren't religious themselves, pay due respect
>to their ancestor's religion and even observe high holidays. Don't you
>think that the whole concept of "chosen people" is racist?

    "Chosen people" is more of a religious concept than a racial/ethnic
    one.  Jews happen to be of all races/colours, and you could become 
    one (observe the Jewish holidays, even emigrate to Israel:), if you
    _really_ wanted to.


-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Disclaimer: all opinions are mine.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: dleschin@FEDS66.PRIME.COM ("", Dmitri Leschiner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Movies
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:03:36 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

> Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:49:53 +0800
> From: "(INFIDEL)" <wojdylo@MATHS.UWA.OZ.AU>
> Subject:      Re: Movies
>
> >Exellent films were made in Georgia by Iosseliani: "Zhil pevchij drozd"
> >["Robin the singer lived" ? - how to translate?] (his best film, IMO),
> >"Listopad" ["Leaffall"], "Pastorale". Also "Mol'ba" ["Pray for mercy"(?)]
> >by Abuladze is very powerful; other films of him: "Tree of desire" and
> >"Repentance" are not really good, IMO.
>
> I don't suppose you've ever seen any of these films on video?
> Do you remember the video label ?
>

Sorry, I really did not. I've seen them in theater.

>
> john
>
> I'd like to ask where are you
> posting from because I can't work it out from your address.

Bedford; Massachusetts, USA

>
> john w.

Dmitry
From: macko@pilot.njin.net (Peter C. Macko)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: U.S. students poor performance in math/scienc
Date: 11 Oct 92 14:21:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


  verbit@coolidge.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky) wrote:

>About literature everybody probably know :)
>(usual Soviet propaganda, Soviet people
>are most reading people in the world etc etc
>Soviet clocks are fastest and Soviet micro-
>chips are biggest). There is some truth in this:

  Did they actually brag about their microchips being
the "biggest"?  I couldn't help but crack up when
I heard this one.  Whoever it was that did the bragging
obviously doesn't know the first thing about chip design.

			-PCM
-- 

  Peter C. Macko                      Internet: macko@pilot.njin.net
  LCSR/Network Research                         macko@cs.rutgers.edu
  Telecommunications/Network Services     UUCP: {backbone}!rutgers!cs!macko
  Rutgers Computing Services,  Rutgers University (Piscataway, NJ)
From: nobby@milton.u.washington.edu (Vitaly Shmatikov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: New language--immigrantish...
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:37:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct12.233741.6713
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <Bw16oJ.Juy@news.cso.uiuc.edu> didinsky@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (didinsky garry) writes:
>I just heard it yesterday from friends of the family, who immigrated
>just 3 weeks ago.  Father, the head of the family, sent himself on the
>mission of finding "mochanlku".  Here is a part of his conversation:
>
>Father: Hello, I would like to wash myself. (This is being spoken in the
>broken english, of course, so be imaginative.)
>
>Salesperson: Well, I use soap.
>
>F: Yes, I am washing myself. I have soap in my left hand.  What do I have
>in my right hand?........
>
>(This is a real life story, this is not a joke.)
>
>---------
>
>I also remember friend of mine telling me about her father showing of his
>english. Father was reading of a box of serial and translating:
>
>FAther: Oh, Kokoi khoroshii sirial. Dazhe prezervativov netu.
>
>
>(This is a real life story, this is not a joke.)
>
>------Garik.

Actually, it's a great idea. I always thought about creating "Immigrant's
Dictionary" or something similar. My small contribution: Berezanov Bridge
(Verrazano), Kastil'skie Gory (Catskill) and serial (cereal with the
stress on the last syllable).

Nobby
nobby@u.washington.edu
From: muh@physics20 (Yury M. Mukharsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Luna Park
Date: 15 Oct 1992 18:08:32 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics20.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct15.111721.16412@husc3.harvard.edu> zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:
>
>MZ:
>>>now, you tell me, from whom do you propose to
>>>save Russia?  As a necessary condition, I suppose your enemies must be not

From whom you would save a sick child? That's exactly the point, you just
can not imagine that after "from" not necesserely follows "whom". From 
ourselfs, if you want. You seems to see no possibility of improvment, save
oppression. it's you problem, don't put it on others.

>
>If there ever should appear an anti-earthquake party, you can rest assured
>that the responsibility for the shifting of the tectonic plates will be
>vested into the CIA, the KGB, the mafia, or some shiftless individuals,
>depending.

Who started talking about politics? Does it follows from your idea that it is
immoral to fight eathquake by prediction/profilcatics? Seems that you think
so.

>
>religious ritual, my definition of Jewishness is certainly dependent on
>exclusion.  Again, so what?  I am certainly not trying to grant the Jews
>any sort of license to oppress non-Jews by means of political promotion of
>"Jewishness", just as I would never do likewise for the Russians.  

But you claims that Russians will oppress non-Russians, and Jews will not.
>no difference in value between the two cases.
That's the difference.

>
>Ah, but the mythical "Russian culture" is your very own private
>hobby-horse, so it is incumbent upon you to tell me just who does, and who
>does not belong.  As for me, I simply don't give a diddly fuck about etnic
>culture of any sort, especially when called upon to define its boundaries

Damn, why do you care to start the discussion of who belongs and who not.
(Or whom Russian nationalists will accept or not, with mildly said strange
example of Shevchenko).
Ask question, and after few replys say that opponent is stupid to talk
on such a strange theme. 

>by gerrymandering, as political exigencies will often demand.  What about
>Kazan?
>
>Conversely, I never felt myself a Russian, but rather a Russian Jew. 

Anti-Russian Jew?
 
Yury
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: didinsky@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (didinsky garry)
Subject: Re: world largest microchips
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:23:36 GMT

Not only Russians are better in making everything, they are also first to 
invent most of the things of the outmost importance. For example, did you
know that X-ray (rengenovskie luchi) were invented in Russia as early as
1466, when a peasant man Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov came home and told his wife
"I can see through you, bitch."

------------------

My friend's roomate once asked my friend whether it was true that everything
was invented in Russia, and whether it was all invented by Lomonosov. (it was
a joke, of course, but doesn't it have a ring of truth?)

------------------

----Garik who never misspelles his own name.  :-).

ps. I heard this yesterday.  It is a story about an american student who went
to Russia.  One day he saw a woman carrying a chicken.  He asked her were she
bought chicken, and rushed there (he was probably getting hungry).  Upon 
arriving to the store, he looked around, and not being able to find chicken
went to counter where eggs were sold and asked to see their mother (because
he could not remember how to say "kuritsa" :-)

(This is a true story, not a joke.)

pss. This little joke happened about 13 years ago in Russia :-).  Local meat
store "vyikinul" (was selling) korov'i mozgi (cow's brains).  People were 
standing in two lines: cash register line and sales counter line.  After a
rumor started to spread that "mozgi conchaut'sa", a wife at the counter line
yells to her husband at the cashregister line "Van', slushai, esli tebe esche
mozgi ne vyibili, pust' tebe khotyabyi yaitsa vyib'yut."

(This is a joke, not a true story)
From: wojdylo@maths.uwa.oz.au (INFIDEL)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Ice T - "Cop Killer"
Date: 13 Oct 1992 11:42:49 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: madvax.maths.uwa.oz.au


Mother Goose writes:


>About freedom of speech and "Cop Killer":

>Freedom of speech is not "just a piece of paper" in America, ...

[...]

>"Freedom" is a complicated idea that has strong dynamics. 
>In America it is far from being "just a sheet of paper."

>It is our national obsession.

>margaret

Thanks Mum. Don't you have some nappies to change now?


I.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu (Roger Squires)
Subject: Re: Movies
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 21:30:17 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Oct11.173853.3466@leland.Stanford.EDU> firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith) writes:
>
>Actually, I heard that story, slightly differently -- Dustin was playing a
>scene where he was exhausted, and so he ran around the block or wherever it
>was he was filming a million times, and Olivier asked him why, and he told him,
>and Olivier said, "Can't you just act tired?"  But it's the same principle.
>

	I saw a short interview with Hoffman on one of the networks
	(Entertainment tonight?) in which the scene was of some 
	natural disaster, very cold, wet, exhausting -- Hoffman said
	something to the effect that 'he didn't have to act tired'
	in this scene.

>Firestar

	Hmmm. I believe there is a comic book character with this name.

Roger Squires
rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu
From: verbit@brauer.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Solaris - the "freeway sequence"
Date: 8 Oct 92 01:56:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Oct7.215602.16158
Organization: Sozialistische Patienten Kollektiv

In article <1992Oct7.032051.18465@netcom.com> oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev) writes:

>I read the book both in Russian and in English and found the Russian
>translation to be much richer in imagery and more... coherent.  Perhaps this
>is because the Russian  translation was directly from Polish, while the
>English translation was from French.  Something must have gotten lost in the
>translation, as the saying goes.

>In fact, I found the translation quality of Lem's work very spotty.  Of the
>books I had read or re-read recently "Futurological Congress" and "Eden"
>were pretty good translations, but "Fiasco" felt clumsy until I managed to
>work up an "immunity" to the clumsy language by the 2nd half of the book.


Latin authors Borges and Marquez are translated as badly 
(comparing with Russian translation) as any
contemporary Russian writer (e. g., Boris Vakhtin).
I suspect this is a general treatment. I also tried
to read Lem books in English and failed, as the 
translation was very bad indeed. 

Misha. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: Adam Lawrence Salter <adam@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Adam's Rib
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:55:35 GMT
  <1992Oct09.185940.101074@watson.ibm.com> <67501@cup.portal.com>

In article <67501@cup.portal.com>, DeVoid@cup.portal.com (David - Lyall) writes:
>>How good/bad "Adam's Rib"?
>>
>	Galina, I just saw "Adam's Rib" last month. To my American
>tastes it was quite good. A 1990 Sov production. Seemed to have much
>domestic commentary about the demoralization of late Sov society. I'm
>sure that you're more qualified than I to judge that.
>	It was personal, small scale. I enjoyed it.
>	The title was disorienting as there was a Katherine Hepburn movie
>of the same title.
>
>
>\  / |  /\    |+ /\ |+  == /\ |    \\//
> \/  | / -\   |  \/ |\  | /- \|__  //\\
>+----------------------------------------+
>==> J. David Lyall > DeVoid@cup.portal.com



  I saw that! It was humorous, but because my previous experience with Russian
cinema is limited to "The Overcoat" some Sergei Eisenstein movies and little
Vera, I'm not sure if it was really good by Russian standards.

                                                                    adam