HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: steve@nshore.org (Stephen J. Walick)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Best modem for UUCP
Reply-To: steve@nshore.org (Stephen J. Walick)
Organization: Nshore Hacking and Salvage
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:04:43 GMT
Followup-To: comp.dcom.modems

As quoted from <3420@creatures.cs.vt.edu> by alanlb@bethesda.cs.vt.edu (Alan L. Batongbacal):

+---------------
| Last week I posed the following question to the net: what's the best
| available modem for UUCP bulk transfers in the $700-$800 range?
| [ ... ]
| 
| Here are their replies:
| [ ... ] 
| 
| The Telebit WorldBlazer.  You'll get around 2KB/sec on uucp transfers
| of compressed data with TurboPEP....
| [ ... ]
| 
| A Telebit Worldblazer is the fastest - provided the other side has
| one, too. It also has V.32bis and V.32, making it compatible
| with most modems.
| [ ... ]
| 
| I have two Telebit WOrldBlazers and have measured approximate rates of
| 1600cps for v.32bis and 1800+cps for TurboPEP.  If you are looking for
| the absolute fastest uucp modem, the WorldBlazer is the way to go.
| [ ... ]
| 
| The best would be a Telebit WorldBlazer since it can run v.42bis over
| Turbo-PEP.  Probable transfer rates of about 2000cps before any compression
| that v.42bis can do.
| [ ... ]
+---------------

I would like to add my 2 cents worth on the whole speed question.
I think some statements can be very misleading as I was to discover
very recently.

The site from which I receive about 40 MB of new per day recently
switched from one transport to another.  I was very excited because
my transfer rates went from an average of 1500 bps to 2500 bps.
Then, I noticed that I went from receiving my usual daily average
to over 80 MB of news!  After inquiring, it was discovered that
compressing the news batches had ceased with installation of their
new transport and they would correct this to again begin sending
compressed news batches.  I went down to my original stat averages.

The site to which I connect can only use V.32bis protocol (I forgot
the brand name of the modems, but it's a University) so, when I con-
nect, "38400/LAPM/COMP/14400" is returned, which is simple that I am
calling on a 38400 baud port requesting LAPM and V.42bis data com-
pression and that my site is connecting at 14400 baud.

It didn't take too long for me to take my calculator and figure out
that sending uncompressed newsbatches at 2500 bps actually took long-
er to transmit than sending compressed newsbatches (approx 50%) at
1500 bps.

As I said, this is using a WorldBlazer with LA5.01 proms using V.32bis
protocol dialing in on an ordinary telephone line.  When I am called
requesting 'EPEP' protocol, sending comprerssed news batches, my aver-
age speed in sending is 1400 bps over a Long Distance circuit (in the
case of this one site).

All the above is using 'Taylor UUCP' package with a window size of 7
and a packet size of 64.

-- 

Stephen J. Walick            Internet: steve@nshore.org [192.150.241.1]
Data Phone: (216) 942-1118          UUCP: {uunet|backbone}!nshore!steve
Two Telebit WorldBlazers, TurboPEP, PEP, V32.bis, V.32 and 2400-300 bps
From: Zero.One@p101.f701.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Zyxel - who, and where are they?
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Aug 21 1992
Date: 04 Sep 92  10:05:17

 > Does anyone know the exact address of the makers of the Zyxel line of
 > modems? (Perhaps also the telephone number?)

Our address is:

ZyXEL USA
4920 E. La Palma Ave.
Anaheim, CA  92807-9828

our phone number is 714-693-0808, 1-800-255-4101 (sales only), our BBS number 
is 714-693-0762 and our fax is 714-693-8811.

Tyrone Horton
(Zero One)
Tech Support
ZyXEL USA

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.unix.sysv386,comp.protocols.misc
Subject: Re: uucico w/v32bis vs zmodem w/v32bis
From: denny@alisa.com (Bob Denny)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 17:12:30 GMT
Organization: Alisa Systems, Inc.

In <1992Sep05.003439.13654@r-node.gts.org> 
   marc@r-node.gts.org (Marc Fournier - Sys Admin) writes:

> In article <1992Sep3.115213.4733@analsyn.gts.org> 
>            anton@analsyn.gts.org (Anton J Aylward) writes:
> [...]
> 
> >How about.....
> >
> >"If Z-modem is so good, why not tell us how to put a plug-in replacement
> > for UUCP based on Z-Modem, which interfaces to news and mail in just
> > the same way....."
> >
> 	Does Taylor UUCP improve that?

There are a set of z-modem patches for Taylor UUCP V1.03. It is _not_
exactly the "real" z-modem, some adaptations and additions were needed to
make the z-modem protocol fit into the UUCP command and control model. The
author did a great job of adapting z-modem to UUCP. One sad thing... the
partial file recovery support was deleted, as it would have required more
modifications to UUCP itself than the author wanted to deal with. In any
case, his z-modem uucp protocol is compatible only with itself. It is such
a nice job, though, that some of us hope that the UUCP community will add
it to the list of "common" link protocols.

_______________________________________________________________________________
Robert B. Denny                                           voice: (818) 792-9474
Alisa Systems, Inc.                                         fax: (818) 792-4068
Pasadena, CA                         (denny@alisa.com, ..uunet!alisa.com!denny)
From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: RE: My buddies at USR
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 19:00:10 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

jmclaugh@hobbit.gandalf.ca (Jim Mclaughlin) writes:

JM> Once I got to talk to someone, I was told that the upgrade 
JM> would be $299 (no mention about shipping), and that I would 
JM> have to send my modem to them to "check out". Then, they would 
JM> send me the new modem. 
JM> He then told me that the turn around time was not going to 
JM> be better than 3 WEEKS. So, if I send the modem to them by 
JM> UPS ground, they should have it in 7 to 10 working days (my 
JM> experiences with UPS make that a optimisitic estimate assuming 
JM> NO trouble with customs). If they do indeed turn it around 
JM> in 3 weeks, and it takes say 10 days to come back (they said 
JM> they would send it UPS ground only), then I should have my 
JM> new modem in no less than 7 WEEKS!!! What do I do for a modem 
JM> in the mean time???? 

I just caught the following on the USR area on CompuServe (go modemven):

*****
Message: #2782, S/4  US Robotics
Date:    Sun, Aug 30, 1992 6:49:05 PM
Subject: HST UPGRADE
From:    Stephen Elias 70550,1735
To:      US Robotics 76711,707 (received)
Reply:   #2862 (1 reply)

Hi I want to upgrade my HST external modem
s/n 0065-16067713 122790

I want to upgrade to an external dual standard v32bis/v.42bis
and send/receive fax capability. I wish to pay COD.

My full address is

Stephen Elias
1917 Clifford Ave
Rochester NY 14609
1-716-244-5830 x3195

Thanks...


Message: #2862, S/4  US Robotics
Date:    Mon, Aug 31, 1992 5:29:02 PM
Subject: #2782-HST UPGRADE
From:    US Robotics 76711,707
To:      Stephen Elias 70550,1735 (received)
Reply:   #2868 (1 reply)

Stephen, a customer service rep will contact you shortly with complete
ordering information and reference number.

Thanks for the order!

Adam Strack
US Robotics

*****

It sure looks to me like they'll handle the upgrade COD, so that you can get
the new modem first before shipping the old back, but I don't know for a fact. 
Anyone want to call this guy and ask?

--Adam--
 
--  
Adam Frix via cmhGate - Net 226 fido<=>uucp gateway Col, OH
UUCP: ...!n8emr!bluemoon!cmhgate!20.18!Adam.Frix
INET: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG
From: jtkohl@cs.Berkeley.EDU (John T Kohl)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Patches to netfax 3.2.1 posted to alt.sources
Date: 15 Sep 1992 21:52:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: stinson.cs.berkeley.edu

I posted my NetFax 3.2.1 patches to alt.sources.  They add
	ANSI C stuff
	change modem stuff to work with Supra FaxModem V.32bis (may
		still work with other modems?)
	a few scripts & makefile hacks
	limited line-sharing with other dial-out progs (no shared
incoming service, yet).
--
John Kohl <jtkohl@cs.berkeley.edu>
UC Berkeley CS grad student
Member of the League for Programming Freedom--details: league@prep.ai.mit.edu
(The above opinions are MINE.  Don't put my words in somebody else's mouth!)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: wolfgang@netcom.com (Wolfgang Henke)
Subject: Re: Digicom Scout Plus Bug, Feature or Operator Error??
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 05:44:38 GMT
Organization: Netcom
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

clyde@hitech.com.au (Clyde Smith-Stubbs) writes:
: wolfgang@netcom.com (Wolfgang Henke) writes:
: 
: Sure, Wolfgang, but there is an awful lot that is NOT there (not
: the commands, they are all there, but descriptions of behaviour
: under certain circumstances).

Personally, I dont use manuals often, I just much rather see what works
or ask others what works for them. 

Let me know how your manual rewrite comes along. I may be interested in
good suggestions. But please not as cumbersome as the USR manuals.



-- 
   _________________________________________________________________________
   Wolfgang Henke        wolfgang@henke.sf-bay.org       wolfgang@netcom.com
From: hikaru@infodn.rmi.de (Walter Doerr)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Zyxel voicemail question
Date: 13 Sep 92 21:19:59 GMT
Organization: infodn, Dueren, Germany

From recent discussions on the net I understand that Zyxel plans to
or has already released a ROM version that supports voicemail.
I have the following questions:

1. What Zyxel modems support this? U1496E? Do I need the PLUS model?

2. What is the serial data format? Baudrate, etc?

3. Is voicemail software available under UNIX?
   Is it possible to use this feature under UNIX or do I need the "realtime"
   capabilities of a DOS machine (because of the datarates)?

Obviously I am looking for a piece of software that lets me use modem dialin,
fax and voicemail on one phone line.
Some kind of "universal getty" comes to mind...


Thanks for any input!

-Walter

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: frechett@spot.Colorado.EDU (-=Runaway Daemon=-)
Subject: How to make modem hang up.
Summary:  Modem will not hang up.
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 04:17:33 GMT


I've recently moved into a new place and have found that my modem now
refuses to hang up when the carrier is lost.  The modem is an 80data
2400 baud hays compatible box.   I've been in two other places with 
it and have never had a problem.  When the other end dropped the carrier
my modem would hang up.  Now, when the other end drops the carrier
my modem just keeps talking.  My terminal fills up with garbage, and 
resets itself several times.. etc.. It'll keep talking to the dead line
until I either +++ ath, turn the modem off, or pick up the other phone
in the house.

I'd like to know if anyone else has ever had this problem and how I
might go about fixing it.  I suspect it might be some sort of 
impedance or voltage problem but am not sure.  One of the things I 
normally do is set ats10=2 and leave call waiting on so it disconnects
quickly when someone calls.  This also no longer works.  The BEEP 
from call waiting kills the connection and the other end drops off
but my modem just keeps talking.. etc. 

Any help at all would be appreciated.

	ian
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: ste@hudson.att.com (Shaun Erickson [94])
Subject: Need Practical Peripherals Inc. email address 
Organization: Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:06:15 GMT

I heard that there is an email address for PPI (a Compuserve address, I believe).
Would someone please email it to me, at ste@alux2.att.com? Thanq & advTHANKSance.
From: john.navas@uttsbbs.uucp (John Navas)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: USR Sportster 14.4 faxmod
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:29:00 GMT
Reply-To: john.navas@uttsbbs.uucp (John Navas)
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591

Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix) responds:

 >> telebit 2500 or a new USR sportster 32 bis. My question is does it
 >> fall forwards after lines get better?

 JN> According to the documentation, yes.

 > A better question to ask is, does the Sportster _initiate_ a
 > fall-forward, or can it only respond to such a request from the
 > other modem?

Again, according to the documentation the Sportster will *initiate*
both fall-forward and fall-back as appropriate.

Best regards,
John
          
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: What is best modem for UUCP?
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 14:55:50 GMT

madsere@okys.infoserv.com (Rene Madsen) writes:

>> a UUCP thread.  I need to make a decision regarding modem choice for
>> UUCP bulk transfers.  I really don't need any fax features--all I need
>> is the fastest modem I can get for about $700-$800.  I'm tilting
>> towards the Telebit 3000 and/or something like it.  What do you think?
>> 
>> I promise to summarize.

>I've been in the same situation for a while, and everyone points
>me to the TB WorldBlazer.

The WB is the obvious selection if you need PEP support, but
if you don't care about PEP support, I would strongly suggest
another v.32bis modem with better latency and throughput.

-- 
Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.rn.com
keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
From: zeke@fasttech.uucp (Bohdan Tashchuk)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Anyone using PC Pursuit (or similar services)?
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:41:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: fasttech.1992Sep11.004116.11043
Organization: Fast Technology

In <1992Sep10.040135.16428@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> j_parsons@moutns.enet.dec.com (What was sliced bread the greatest thing since?) writes:

>--
>Is anyone here still using Sprint's PC Pursuit service? I used to be an avid 
>user but had to bail out when they did away with the unlimited usage for $30/month a few years ago. I am curious to find out if the service is still around, and if so what the current pricing policies are. Do they support 9600 baud (or higher) yet? Are there competing services which support 9600?

I recently called them to find out what they offer. The phone was answered by
"Spencer Data", so I'm not sure if they were sold or what.

They are still 2400 baud only, but talking about 9600 baud "next year". They
have "outdials" in 40 or so cities (IE, that's where the remote end can be. The
local end may have an even greater range of choices.)

They cost $30 for a 1-time signup, then $30/month for up to 30 hours of
"non-prime time" use, which is 6PM-7AM local time, plus all weekend.

They also have a "family plan" that I didn't pay much attention to, so I might
not remember price exactly, but it was something like $50/month for up to 60
hours of use.

They also have a "handicapped plan" which, fortunately, doesn't apply to me.

Phone number for info or signup is (800) 736-1130.
From: Zero.One@p6.f356.n103.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: high speed dial up modems
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Aug 21 1992
Date: 10 Sep 92  11:00:04

 > We are replacing 64 dial up modems with new high speed modems that
 > are
 > V.32bis/V.42bis with a DTE speed of 57,600K, run 14,400
 > synchronous etc.
 > (i.e. they must be the latest and greatest and meet all the
 > standards).
 > With the large number of modems, prices and manufacturers, we are
 > trying to
 > select one that is reasonably priced, from a well established
 > manufacturer.
 >  The modems must be available stand alone as well as on a card to
 > mount in
 > a rack in our computer room.  We are leaning towards the MultiTech
 > MultiModem V32B at less than $ 550.  I would appreciate any
 > comments on
 > those particular modems or any others you may have found to be
 > especially
 > good in that price range.  I find nearly all of them are very
 > difficult for
 > the average user to set up and some are not fully compliant with
 > the
 > standards.  It would be nice if it could be upgraded to V.fast
 > when the
 > standard is complete.

Have you looked at ZyXEL's rack mount?  Give us a call at 1-800-255-4101.

Tyrone Horton
(Zero One)
Tech Support
ZyXEL USA

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From: mdlawler@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Michael D. Lawler)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: v.32bis modem questions
Keywords: PP14400FXSA connections with 2400 v.42bis modems
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:24:15 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana


I just rescently purchased a PP14400FXSA modem and I'm having a
problem with it.  If I try to connect to a 2400 v.42bis modem while
my computer to modem is greater than 2400 and register 37 which controls
the maximum dce speed is set to 0 the 2 modems never finish handshaking.
The only solution I have found is to either set my modem to computer
speed to 2400 when calling these modems or set register 37 to 6 so
that the maximum dce (modem to modem) speed is 2400.  My questions
are has anyone else with this modem had the same problem and has anyone
with another v.32bis modem had the same problem?  Note that my modem
is external and that it works fine when connecting to any other type
of modem including 2400 baud modems without v.42bis.  Please email
responses to me as soon as possible because I need to decide if I'm
going to keep the modem.  If this behavior is typical of v.32bis modems
while connecting to 2400 baud v.42bis modems then I will probably keep
it, but if not then I probably won't.  Thanks for all the help!
mdlawler@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
00mdlawler@bsuvax1.bitnet
00mdlawler@bsuvc.bsu.edu
From: bjdunlop@shamash.cdc.com (Bruce Dunlop)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Intelligent Modems Inc.
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:23:41 GMT
Organization: Control Data, Arden Hills, MN

In article <1992Sep10.091535.307@hpb.hwc.ca> inunn@hpb.hwc.ca writes:
>A recent post had a reference to modems made by Intelligent Modems Inc.
>Could someone please post an address and phone number. The Sept. issue
>of COMPUTER SHOPPER list 1380 modems and their manufacturers. The above
>company is not among the many listed. Thanks.
>Ian Nunn


IMC currently sells their modems under the Forval name.  Forval IS listed
in the Computer Shopper list.  They will soon sell them under their own name.
The list price for the 14.4Kbps Forvals listed in Computer Shopper was
about $1200!  The current price for Forvals is only $275!  Prior to this
sale they were something under $500, I believe.

IMC's address and phone is:
	Intelligent Modem Corporation
	#6 Quietwood Lane
	Sandy, Utah 84092

	(801)571-8506 (voice)
	(801)571-8507 (fax)

Forval's are sold by Chris Von Motz through his company:
	Mikro Tek
	619 North 4th Street
	San Jose, CA 95112

	(408)294-3065 (BBS)
	(408)294-0526 (voice)
	(408)286-5701 (fax)

Jim Dahlberg
jad@verdin.gsd.cdc.com
From: dkw@wolferts.ka.sub.org (Klaus Wolferts)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Question on Hayes ad in Network World magazine
Date: 12 Sep 92 10:17:11 GMT
Organization: Ing'Buro f. EDV + Elektronik, D-7500 Karlsruhe 31

geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh) writes:
>
> SHUTTERS_WC@TOTO.LAAFB.AF.MIL writes:
> 
> > 3.  What does the Hayes Patent 4,549,302 cover?
> 
>    The use of guard times around an escape sequence to permit a device to 
> recognize the difference between the user trying to signal the modem and a 
> data transmission which simply looks like the escape sequence.  This guard 
> time is critical to making a modem 'invisible' to the data stream though, as 
> I said, it isn't a 100% guarantee.
> 
Is that the only feature which is covered by that patent?

Whats about the transferring of those 3 escape characters to the line?

I remember a discussion several weeks ago in this news group on TIES 
(Time Independant Escape Sequence) modems (Re: "Boom! you are dead" 
or something like that) where the following feature was mentioned:

The modem holds back the escape character(s) when the escape 
sequence recognition mechanism is triggered. 
If it succeeds, the escape sequence is "stolen" by the modem, 
switched to command mode and answers with OK.
If it fails, the held back character(s) are forwarded to the line.

That should be the normal way to handle the escape sequence in order 
to behave well in conflict situations, where the data contains the 
escape sequence.

Now with my Digicom Scout Plus I learned, (as the docs tell) that 
you have to wait for the escape guard time (S12), but it forwards the 
escape characters anyway. 

Wolfgang Henke told me, that the Scout Plus is a TIES modem, but I 
think that does not imply the forwarding or removal of the escape 
characters. Or is that mechanism covered from the hayes patent too?

Perhaps Mr. Nixon may tell us more about the features that patent 
covers? 

Klaus
 ____    __  __  __    __   __
|    \  |  |/ / |  | /|  | / / Dr.-Ing. Klaus Wolferts: dkw@wolferts.ka.sub.org
|  |  | |  | /  |  |/ |  |/ / Ing'Buro f. EDV + Elektronik  
| d|  | | k| \  | w| /|  | / Mitteltorstr. 45,            Phone: +49 721 706016
|____/  |__|\_\ |__|/ |__|/ D-7500 Karlsruhe 31, Germany,  49x03'02"N 8x22'58"E
From: Paul N. Prokopenko  <pasha@glas.apc.org>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Date: 04 Sep 92 11:20 MDT
Subject: Re: Modem use in Moscow
Nf-ID: #R:1992Aug27.220018.952@wheaton.whe:1943029970:glas:10000022:000:383
Nf-From: glas.UUCP!pasha    Sep  4 11:20:00 1992


I think it should work. 

do not forget about 220 power voltage here (if you are using external modem)

also, MNP or other error correction protocol would be usefull 
(sometimes - necessary)

BTW, you could call us at +7(095)2176182 or 2627079

International Computer Network "Glasnet" provides international email
service and conferencing.

pasha@glas.apc.org  , Prokopenko Pavel.
From: ST7021@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: IBM 7855-10 Disconnect at Phone Pick-Up
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:27:19 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I am using an IBM 7855-10 modem (12000bps). It connects fine to a wide variety
of modems that I use.

A problem that I experience is that it lose connection when someone in my
house picks up a phone. It seems to do this commonly when running at
9600/12000bps.

At this point, I am not sure which direction to place blame. I will leave
my modem's speaker active and, after a phone pick-up, I will hear the other
end hang-up. My modem always stays on and the LCD display says
"Retraining...". I can hear it beeping away trying to recover the connection.
I am not satisfied, however, that this is the other modems' fault. This happens
on USRs, Hayes, Bocas, etc. Not sure about other 7855-10's.

This device will accept line noise with no problems. I've (for fun...) brought
the line noise upto "F" (on a scale from 0-F). It still hung in there.

  o Is this some V.32(bis) thing (my old Hayes VS9600 doesn't do this at
    9600)?
  o Could it be interpreting the drop in volume (or whatever) as a Break
    signal? Would that be relevant?
  o Is there a register that I can alter that will make it more tolerant
    to this?

I can understand how rough a local line pick-up can be on the carrier, but I
was hoping the error correction would be a bit more fault tolerant.

Following are my standard register values (for completeness):

     B0 E1 L2 M1 Q0 V1 X4 Y1 &C1 &D2 &G0 &J0 &L0 &P0 &Q0 &R0 &S1 &X0 &Y0
     S00:000 S01:000 S02:043 S03:013 S04:010 S05:008 S06:002 S07:060
     S08:001 S09:000 S10:015 S12:050 S14:8AH S16:00H S18:000 S21:B4H
     S22:46H S23:3DH S25:000 S26:000 S27:00H

Thanks for any ideas!

Thomas Boehler

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems