From: bc744@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: Deportation vs. Murder
Date: 20 Dec 1992 14:46:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Brad Hernlem...

#In article <1gvbffINNo7s@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>,
#bc744@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman) writes:
#> 
#>    There has been much talk about the deportations in the context
#> of their political significance.  I wonder why terrorist activity
#> and murders on the part of Arab terrorists directed Israelis, are
#> not regarded as politically significant?  There seems to be a bit
#> of a double standard here.
#> 
#>    A man is kidnapped.  A short time later, his body is found out
#> on the side of some road, dumped like a bag of garbage.  The body
#> indicates that he was bound and repeatedly stabbed to death.  The
#> murder was carried out by an organization sworn to kill Jews.  It
#> is a terrorist organization with hundreds of members.  They swore
#> an oath to try to kill Israelis whenever and however they can.
#> 
#>    They are rounded up and booted out of the area.  They received
#> money and clothing, and then were shown the door.  This eviction,
#> this kicking out of terrorists is being procalimed as cruel.  But
#> there has been not one word of protest from a single humanitarian
#> or human rights group about kidnapping an innocent man, tying him
#> up, and repeatedly stabbing him to death.  Why does the world say
#> nothing about this act, but moans about the eviction of those who
#> have sworn themselves to perform such acts?
#> 
#>   Have you 'humanitarians' no standards?  Are you so biased as to
#> give tacit approval to such a torturous and sadistic murder?  Why
#> do you care more about the murderers than you do the victim?  Are
#> you indifferent to bloodshed if the blood being shed is Jewish?
#> 
#>    Jews are also human beings.  Many of you may not think so, but
#> we are.  Is it acceptable to kidnap someone, bind him, and murder
#> him by repeatedly stabbing him, if he is a Jew?  Mr. Toledano did
#> not ever kill anyone.  He was not a murderer.  But he was killed.
#> He was butchered like a piece of cattle.  And yet you who yell at
#> the world about the eviction of people sworn to commit such acts,
#> you say nothing about this man's death.
#> 
#>    The concept of human rights is one that should apply to people
#> universally.  Furthermore, if one considers deporting a person to
#> be worse than murdering a person, one has a distorted view of the
#> severity of these to actions.  Would YOU rather be given clothing
#> and money, and be kicked out.., or would you rather be kidnapped,
#> tied in rope from head to toe, and be knifed to death?
#
#So all 400 of these people killed the one man? 

    No.  But all 400 of these people have sworn to kill the Jews.  
    They are members of HAMAS and Islamic Jihad.  They have taken                                       
    a genocidal oath, to kill Jews whenever possible.  Their oath
    is to kill any Jews in Israel, not just soldiers of policemen
    in the occupied territories.  Because of the genocidal nature
    of their organizations, it is simply too dangerous for Israel
    to wait until these racist zealots murders even one more Jew.
                                            
                                            So all the 1200 who were
#given administrative detention helped kill the one man? The question is
#justice. 

    The question may be justice now.  The question of justice has       
    rarely been raised regarding the murder of innocent Jews. The 
    question of justice is so selectively raised that it does not
    always appear to be just.
           
           You have declared all 1600 of these people to be terrorists
#without trial and without knowledge of any evidence. The Israeli
#government has not even released the names of these people but YOU KNOW
#that they are all guilty. Do you have some kind of extrasensory
#perception? You know, your psychic powers could be put some good use, I
#suppose. :-)

    These people were not charged with any crime.  They were made
    to leave the country because they have sworn to kill the Jews
    in Israel.  They may appeal their deportations.  Furthermore,
    the deportations are for a period of about two years.

    If concern about the deportees is more than just an excuse to
    criticize Israel, why has there been no mention of the manner
    in which they were received by Lebanon?  Their so-called Arab
    brothers chose to leave them out in the cold.  And then there
    is the matter of the refugee camps.  These hell-holes are the
    direct result of people pretending that being anti-israeli is
    the same as being pro-Palestinian.  If people REALLY cared if
    these people are treated like human beings, they might take a
    look at how entities other than Israel treat them.  Until the
    world examines how these people are being treated by entities
    other than Israel, this political hypocrisy shall continue to
    work against the Palestinians.


#Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)


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