HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Time for a Coup, Everybody!
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:40:43 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

first, my newsfeed is still refusing to acknowledge alt groups, but
kilroy/craig, who is an utter saint, has set up a news-to-mail gateway 
for me. so i got to spend the day wading through a week of angst. wheeeee.
i'm gonna make an obnoxiously large number of posts to catch up. hopefully
using the same titles and all will make them into followups.

rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins) wrote:

: food. and i started to get scared. not fidgety, but downright scared.
: once we got back to the hotel, i burst into tears. i couldn't control it. i 
: had to get home. it was frightening, 'cause i don't cry very much. 

i used to do this a lot. i once drove from dallas to ohio, only in
tennessee i freaked and turned around and went home. and i used to sit
in my car outside new situations, crying because i was so scared of
dealing with them.

: we went to austin for a pizza. i didn't even get to meet sine. she and meech
: probably hate us now, 'cause we didn;t even leave them a not (just weren't
: thinkinf linearly), and i feel like a total fool. just nuke arizona right 
: now. i'll tell jeff so he can leave, but i think i want to be ground zero.

nuking arizona is a bit extreme just to avoid meeting me. sheesh.

i understand, actually, having done similar stuff. nosweat. i guess i'll
just ahve to haul myself out there sometime. 

i do have to admit that the true story of waht happened isn't as
compelling as the rachel-jeff-bridge-goats-blood-sex stories chuck and
meech came up with, but hey...

--
sine
deb
full report will follow, honest.

Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: olt@elwood.isgs.uiuc.edu (Scott Olt)
Subject: Re: Time for a Coup, Everybody!
Organization: Madame Tinkertoy's House of Blue Lights
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 16:59:40 GMT

toj8j@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (T.S. Eliot) writes:

(They have creative login IDs at UVa...)

>Well, all the "veteran" angsters--Meech, sine, rachel, etc.--have left
>for the weekend to spend a wild, woolly, angst-free time in Austin.

>They think this newsgroup is safe in their absence...

They are sadly mistaken...

>We have waited long enough, we lurkers in the shadows.  It is time to
>seize the reins of power.  It is time to exile them all to dachas in
>sunny t00son.  It is time to take control.

Count me in. Who do I have to kill?

>I now declare this coup officially in progress.  I hope somebody brought
>the marshmallows.

Ratch ear (as they say in Texas). Anybody got a match?

>tj

ObAngst: it's ~875 miles from here to Houston.

--
Scott Olt
Illinois State Geological Survey
olt@elwood.isgs.uiuc.edu
From: dombart@muli.saar.de (John Raoul Dombart)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: PIN Number
Date: 12 Oct 92 5:36:25 GMT

hank@wagner.cbs.umn.edu (Craig Amundsen @ U of MN Herbarium)  wrote...
>>>Don't you hate when people say PIN number?  I mean, like, geez,
>>>it's redundant.
>>>"Hey, what's your Personal Identification Number Number?"
>>
>>What you mean the code you need to use the ATM machineso you can
>>get some cash to buy a cone of TCBY yogurt?
>
>My favorite is NFS file system.

Hey, and what about 'MSDOS Operating System' ?

R.D.

P.S.: No, this is not off-topic.


----
  /\ muli - may unexpected love increase
 /..\ FTRM !
/_\/_\ dombart@muli.saar.de
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Friday, 9 Oct 1992 17:10:22 MST
From: <IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: envy

Envy! Austin! More Envy!

left here in Arizona, questioning the meaning of life, wondering if it really
doesn't DESERVE to be nuked this weekend, stranded in the desert with only red-
necked cowboys and racists to talk to, and me a liberal democrat....

my life is such a mess, while you people party hearty in texas, i'll drive
up to sedona and find a psychic to explain everything to me while you guys are
gone...
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Time for a Coup, Everybody!
From: quirke_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 11 Oct 92 12:14:50 NZST
Distribution: world
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
Summary: my $0.005 cents worth
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

toj8j@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (T.S. Eliot) writes:

> We have waited long enough, we lurkers in the shadows.  It is time to
> seize the reins of power.  It is time to exile them all to dachas in
> sunny t00son.  It is time to take control.
> 
> I now declare this coup officially in progress.  I hope somebody brought
> the marshmallows.

   Count me in !
   Oh, wait a moment, I've actually posted here once or twice...
   Does this mean I end up with a icepick through the skull ?

Tony Q.
 (Icepicks would seem a good alternative to having wisdom teeth yanked, tho)
From: Benedict.M.Wightman@cm.cf.ac.uk (B M Wightman)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Time for a Coup, Everybody!
Date: 16 Oct 92 10:53:47 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff

In article <1992Oct15.070117.6664@acme.gen.nz> kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes, concerning:
>fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Fulton) writes:
(paraphrase to) "Veterans? Shyeah, right... "
And then kilroy ripostes...
>Yeah, true, to be a "veteran" you apparently have to be one of the hip
>trendy in-crowd who hang out on the Angst List.
>
>This is alt. It's kind of dynamic, you may have noticed. Anyone who
>participates regularly in a group for several months is deserving of the
>title "veteran". I think the word you're looking for is Dinosaur.

I don't think that it was meant as a criticism, more a dictionary query.
Veteran tends to mean "old" rather than "prolific". Mind you, I guess
dinosaur is kinda apposite. All it takes is one bloody huge lump of rock
to hit the earth, and we're history. I wonder if I can get reincarnated as
a cockroach? Come to think of it, am I likely to have any choice?
--
  Benedict.M.Wightman@cm.cf.ac.uk / COMMA,Senghenydd Rd.,Cardiff,Wales  
         PhD Student in Meddling In Things I Do Not Understand          
                  "I'm not aware of too many things,
            But I know what I know if you know what I mean"
From: bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Arrogant Idiots
Date: 8 Oct 1992 16:38:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Reply-To: bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu



In a previous article, Bruce.Tindall@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall) says:

>In article <1aj4sjINNeil@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy) writes:

>>>Mea saurus, mea saurus. Mea maxima saurus.

>>I have no idea what this means.

>[...]
>"My lizard, my lizard,
>my very big lizard."



Now I'm sorry I asked...

Jeanne
From: rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: tiredness.
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:48:06 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1992Oct8.193653.13473@utkux1.utk.edu> kovarik@UTKUX1.UTK.EDU (StMeechTheThwacked) writes:
>In article <1b1obaINN6oc@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy) writes:
>>

>>
>>Go to Austin?
>>
>In 2 hours 45 minutes I am on the way!  Yeeeehaw!!! Bearing a litre of
>Rebel Yell! And mah baseball cap!


meech is doing this the easy way. at 11 pm tonight, lightning man and i are 
climbing in to a truck and heading out 800+miles toward austin. meech's 
rebel yell is no match for the bottle of st.brendan's i'm bringing...i wonder
how lightning man lewis is going to counter?

bah. 



--
		-just give me what for,
	rachel perkins =  rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu
      "Chastity..the most unnatural of all the sexual perversions...."
					-Aldous Huxley
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 14 Oct 1992 16:28:49 MST
From: <IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET>Jo Namio
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: What the Hell is this?

This group? It's about hell. On earth. Or maybe just in Arizona.....



--------j.-----------------

"No one can kill me like you do."  --Neil Young
From: harold@cs.uq.oz.au (Andrew Wood)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Angst music
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:52:06 GMT
Reply-To: harold@cs.uq.oz.au

>At any rate, can we hear some reccomendations on angst-music? Do you folx find 
>you listen to this sort of thing to relieve a bad mood or wallow in it?

I thought Joy Division wrote the book on Angst. 
Even their name clearly puts them out in front, but song titles like
Isolation, Atrocity Exhibition, and Love Will Tear Us Appart show that 
they were into serious angst. JD were a theme band, and the theme was
                            ANGST

A (is for ?)
--
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             v      "This is a job for 'The Australian'"    Delicatessen.
From: bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Angst Police, veterans, Dinosaurs
Date: 15 Oct 1992 23:30:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, gmkoenig@acsu.buffalo.edu (Gerson V Koenig) says:

>Did Xibo ever show us the red haired girl, or was she always "off camera"?

Charlie Brown was also infatuated with a red-haired girl.  A coincidence?
I DON'T THINK SO.



-Jeanne
From: denisec@amadeus.wr.tek.com (Denise Caire)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: tiredness.
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:14:51 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <1992Oct5.052419.10050@linus.mitre.org> sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay) writes:
>I've thought about this too, but have found that lifequakes or waking up or
>whatever have the same effect on your life that waking up out of a dream does.
>Once you wake up, you can't go back to sleep, no matter how hard you try...

I find that if I was really enjoying my dream and wanted to see the
end, that I can get back into my dream after, lets say, going to the
bathroom or whatever.  I have been able to complete some very pleasant
dream experiences this way.  On the other hand, I've had bad dreams
that won't let me wake up to get out of them.  Sometimes I even know
in my dream that I am dreaming and keep dreaming that I will wake up and
discover that this is a dream but it is so real that I dream I wake up
in my dream but I wake up to discover I'm still dreaming (all in a dream).
When I'm having one of those dreams, it is really good to wake up!
Does all this parallel life somehow?

Denise "Is it a dream or is it reality?" Caire
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: duke@portal.paperboy.osf.org (Duke Robillard)
Subject: The Austin Party
Organization: /u1/duke/.organization
	<92286.081311IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET>
	<1992Oct12.160741.13361@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:00:29


In an article rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins) writes:

[ story of driving 15 hours for a party, eating Pizza, having a 
  anxiety attack, crying uncontrollably, skipping the party, and 
  driving home deleted ]

Incredible--it turned out to be a real AngstCon after all.

Good Job, Rachel, I didn't think you had it in you.

--
Duke "Pass the Strychnine" Robillard, DoD #0130, duke@osf.org
From: Benedict.M.Wightman@cm.cf.ac.uk (B M Wightman)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Time for a Coup, Everybody!
Date: 12 Oct 92 10:31:24 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff

In article <1992Oct10.022816.9421@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> toj8j@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (T.S. Eliot) writes:
>Well, all the "veteran" angsters--Meech, sine, rachel, etc.--have left
>for the weekend to spend a wild, woolly, angst-free time in Austin.

Barstewards. Anyway, you must be very new here indeed if sine and rachel count
as veterans. They're pretty damn prolific with their postings, but I remember
when both of them were mere newbies, still wondering if their angst counted or
not. And that worries me. I was young once you know...

Ben (no, not that one), who has left geezerdom and is heading for Senile City
And he's only 22.

--
- Benedict.M.Wightman@cm.cf.ac.uk / COMMA,Senghenydd Rd.,Cardiff,Wales -
-------- PhD Student in Meddling In Things I Do Not Understand ---------
Recipe for disaster:
Computer system, important task to be solved, deadline, me. Mix well, wait.
From: llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: DAYBREAK!  I...survived!
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:56:33 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

brewer@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (marmoset) (wow, he's even properly 
lowercase) wrote:

: I could have been relaxing at Sine's house, cooing
: love poetry in her ear while sipping mimosas and nibbling on Nutter Butters..

not even for you would i mix oj, peanut butter, and champagne. pick two
and we'll talk...

: Hmph.  Instead, I spent last night at with a college sophomore who "just
: want[ed] to get stoned, man!" Eeeesh, I need new friends or some hobbies or
: maybe just a good book to read... 

would be be paranoid to inquire as to gender of said sophomore? thought so.

: There are plenty of parties to go to.  But all those 
: parties are full of the annoying, depressing, mindless twits that give me so 
: much frustration every day when they're sober.  I have no desire to hang out
: in a crowded area with those folks when they're drunk and talkative.  I think

i used to go to parties usually both nights every weekend, until i
realized that it was incredibly dull watching the same people drinking
the same drinks and using the same lines to try to have sex with the
same other people.  it's incredibly dull listening to reggae on the
radio and playing solitaire but at least i don't find myself wanting
to slap people.

: Austin sounds like bliss...

it's not at the moment. give it a week.

--
sine/deb
desperately trying to keep the mush quotient down to something 
near reasonable
From: llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Peanuts, Eeyore, Angst and Suicide
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:36:06 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz

: Sometimes I just lock myself into my bedroom and scream until I can't
: make any more noise. Sometimes it helps, sometimes I just feel worse and
: soemtimes I just end up with a sore throat.

the worse times for me are when i want to scream or to cry or do
*something* and nothing comes out. my eyes are parched and my brain
resolutely refuses to have anything resembling emotion even though i
*know*, dammit, that the feelings are right there waiting for me. but
i can't get them to come out. i used to go to parties and get really
drunk and then they'd come out, but i realized after a while that it
didn't really help and i was gonna lose some friends if i didn't quit.

: I've been searching for something all my life which I can't really
: define - something which would bring a sense of belonging - a feeling of
: being in the 'right' place, with the 'right' people, doing something which
: feels 'right'. Instead, I just sit and watch the world go by, afraid to
: make a move in case I get stomped on again.

wow. especially the bit about being sotmped on; a couple of times in
my life i thought i was with the right people doing what i should be
doing, feeling like part of something that was bigger than just me,
feeling integral -- and every time i've gotten squashed flatter than a
bug. unlike bugs, though, i never learn. the lure of feeling needed
and wanted is just too damned strong.

:         Nobody knows why - He seemed to have everything finally sorted
:         out in life.

as someone else has pointed out, the riskiest time for suicidal people
is when they seem to be on the upswing. sometimes just making the
positive decision to suicide takes this huge weight off the mind and
relieves a lot of anxiety.

--
sine/deb
cold steel snap
bait check trap check
exit none.
next.
and the poet with a keyboard
holds a handful of death
seducing midnight.
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Random conversation with myself
From: quirke_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:27:54 NZST
Distribution: world
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
Summary: A flippent comment
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

iam30974@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (129-384320a-b) writes:
> quirke_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
> 
>>"How do I get over it ?"
> 
> make a business out of it.

   What, and compete with rachel ? Worse than trying to sell sake to the
Japanese !

Tony Q.
From: rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: ground zero
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:10:26 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ


this is a notice:

i am leaving sunny t00son for austin texas, land of sine nomine. please do 
not nuke arizona to glass during this time, since i have to return. i thank
you for your cooperation. it would be nice t come back to a glass-bottomed
lake, so that i could sail in it in opaque-bottomed boats, but i must ask you
to hold back on this occasion.

thank you for your attention. i now return you to your regularly scheduled
angst.

bah.
--
		-just give me what for,
	rachel perkins =  rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu
      "Chastity..the most unnatural of all the sexual perversions...."
					-Aldous Huxley
From: klein@frith.egr.msu.edu (Jeffrey Klein)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Angst music
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:29:40 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University College of Stunt Piloting

In article <1992Oct7.121523.1004@news2.cis.umn.edu> hank@wagner.cbs.umn.edu (Craig Amundsen) writes:
>>>early Marillion.  wallow.
>
>>tori amos (little earthquakes), pearl jam, peter gabriel, kate bush, pink
>>floyd, elgar, mahler, etc, etc...
>
>The Cowboy Junkies, Dr. Hook

Warrant

-- 
Jeff Klein             | "Happily, Ral doffs his outer clothing for a
Browsing Boy of the LNH|  refreshing dip in one of the dangerous 
klein@frith.egr.msu.edu|  chemical vats." - Ty Templeton
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Arrogant Idiots
From: emiddlec@mora.gac.edu (Eric Middlecamp)
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:01:44 -0600

In article <81086@ut-emx.uucp>  writes:
>DOG BASEBALL!!! (hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu) wrote:
>
>: 	big thing I discovered early (and forget often):  unless you can be
>: killed for what you do, it's not as important as your life.  whatever shit
>:falls on you, unless you're dead, I mean REALLY NO PULSE dead, you can wipe it
>: off and keep going.  this is probably the eternal optimist trying to peek
>: through my shell of cynical pessimism, but what can I do?  for all the
>
>my exspousoid (who is better left unmentioned) used to say "they can
>kill you, but they can't eat you." i kinda like it... they can take away
>everything you have without your consent, except you. they can only consume
>you if you let them.
>
>sometimes it seems like it would be easier to just say "cool, go for
>it, there's not even that much left of me to devour anyway, and it's
>gonna happen sooner or later and there's really no point to any of
>this," but somehow we don't. and that, i think, is the difference
>between this newsgroup and a.s.h. or alt.peeves or whatever. the
>people who 'live' here know that life sucks, know that there's not
>really any point and we're all trapped in this existentialist dilemma
>and have no clue about why we're alive or what we're sposed to be
>doing, but we don't numb out in the face of this painful reality. the
>people i've seen here are still trying to make sense, trying to make
>something meaningful, even though there's just not all tha tmuch in
>the world to work with.

Ha. hhahahahahaha. I laugh at Satan. I laugh at sloth. hahaha. shoo.
And yet I remain inactive. I must laugh. I laugh a nervous laugh. 
Someday it will be
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: duke@portal.paperboy.osf.org (Duke Robillard)
Subject: Re: Angst music
Organization: /u1/duke/.organization
	<1992Oct15.002759.5956@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Date: 15 Oct 92 09:35:49

In article <1992Oct15.002759.5956@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umplato@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Howard Norman Plato) writes:

   How could anyone miss out the obvious the group with
   the most angst in the world...
   the cure.

Posers


--
Duke Robillard, DoD #0130, duke@osf.org
From: bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Hello Rachel! =) (wuz: HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW YOU'RE ALIVE???)
Date: 8 Oct 1992 01:54:49 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, sine nomine says:

>blosser_cy@lrc.edu wrote:

[stuff deleted...]

>: how many of us are content to work 9-5 every day, 
>: go home, grab a cold beer, 
>: and sit in front of the television watching stupid commercials
>: whilst our frozen dinner is nuked in the microwave? 
>
>the ones who need to do that. it's sad, agreed, but it's thir choice.
>i can't say my choices are superior for anyone but me. could it be
>that these people who mystify me look at my life and shake their
>heads: "no *way* i could live like that"?

You know it could.  This is the way most of the people I work with see
me, and vice versa.  To me, they're just midwestern folks who like to
talk every mundane topic to death.  To them, I just live a lonely and
pointless existence, unmarried and childless.  And maybe I do, but
not for those reasons.  It's totally an issue of perspective.

[some stuff deleted...]

>: likewise. but sometimes it takes a message like that to burst through the
>: emotionless bubble that surrounds us as we go about our day-to-day exist-
>: ence...but perhaps it should have been directed to a different newsgroup?
>
>emotionless? you don't seem to understand. it's not lack of emotions,
>it's excess. everything reacts, everything feels, everything is there
>and it's all too much. it's like being on a rollercoaster, to use a
>tired analogy... the highs are awesome but they're matched by lows.

Yeah, I agree that most people here have plenty of emotions, but I have to
admit to having shut mine down from time to time, as a survival 
technique.  Numb is terrible, but sometimes you have only terrible choices.

>--
>sine nomine
>debbie martinson


Jeanne
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Angst music
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:29:27 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <1992Oct7.121523.1004@news2.cis.umn.edu> hank@wagner.cbs.umn.edu (Craig Amundsen) writes:

>>>early Marillion.  wallow.

>>tori amos (little earthquakes), pearl jam, peter gabriel, kate bush, pink
>>floyd, elgar, mahler, etc, etc...

>The Cowboy Junkies, Dr. Hook
>-- 
>Craig Amundsen (hank@wagner.cbs.umn.edu)       <STANDARD DISCLAIMER>

>                           Drive Fast, Take Chances

Anybody know the name of the band that recorded a song with the hook line:
"Uh-oh, wrong haircut"
If I can be bothered, I'll transcribe the lyrics and post them.



              Have another day    [Armageddon, the musical] 
  Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England   (44|0)61-275-6033  
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