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From: blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Bryan Lip)
Newsgroups: aus.sport,rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: NBL: Magic defeat Tigers 95-88 in game 3 for title
Date: 5 Nov 1992 09:37:00 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Distribution: aus
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au

pinder deserved mvp then... not borner... and that's not wildcat bias...
pinder played for the almighty sydney supersonics then....

borner.... oh no... he was good once... but now... he is just ok, maybe
a bit poor even... he is ok in the nbl but in international competition
he is pppppppppooooooooooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrr!!

ready my lips, no new borner for 96!

why not put some youth in... you saw what happened when hurley put in
the great three

1. bradtke
2. longley
3. vlahov

and look where they are now!
one is in spain, one is in the nba and the other is in the nbl all star
five...and has had an offer to try with the la lakers...


i think for 96 how about
1. ronaldson
2. whitehead
3. fisher
4. stiff? or van der putten?

anyway...

for toronto 94, why not have crawford as their american?
he is next to loggins . and he is two years younger

naturalised end of nbl season 1989 -> therefore, can play in 1994 for
australia!!

still is a great player, won wildcats mvp this year, still 11rpg and 19
ppg - can score more, but wildcats emphasis is NOT on him scoring!!
wildcats have enough scorers in the slow tempo game.


whitehead and ronaldson have to be definites for 96 if current form
continues to improve

and maybe ronaldson for 94? what about withers and reidy as well?

comments?
Newsgroups: aus.sport
Subject: The agony of being a 36'er fan
From: mabrd@levels.unisa.edu.au
Date: 9 Nov 92 11:52:16 +1030
Organization: University of South Australia

The local Adelaide paper, the Advertiser, reports today that Brisbane
has secured the services of Bruce Palmer. Palmer was reported to have
been close to signing a long term deal with Adelaide before Brisbane made
him an offer `he couldn't refuse'. Apparently the 36'ers management
held off on Palmer whilst (for some reason known only to themselves)
waiting to see if Brian Goorjin was going to become available.

I can't believe the ineptitude of this. There was more than just
the benefit of having a good coach for Adelaide in having Palmer
here. His high profile might have encouraged some needed quality
players to Adelaide. This has been a major weakness in the program
here for ages, : (Dan Clausen, Simon Cottrell (who never got any
minutes), Jerry Dennard (a tryer) Mike Corkeron (overated with
bad knees) Kim (who?) Taylor), hardly an imposing list.
Add to this the fact that Scott Ninnis was keen to come back
(to his business and family) if Palmer was appointed and
rumours about Scott Fisher etc and you have a big loss to the
Adelaide program.

I am tired of the small town attitude that this management has.
We have seen players of the calibre of Leroy Loggins and Phil
Smyth lost to the town because of `better offers', a championship
coach sacked and replaced by a nobody (Gary Fox, who never
got much support anyway) and then Don Shipway ( a mate of
a group on the board who, believe it or not, are now
suggesting that he should be reinstated) who made some of
the dumbest choices in players (apart from Butch Hays) you could
imagine. We also watched Mathew Reece and Scott Ninnis go elsewhere
so they could develop.

We have two of the finest young players in the country (Brett Maher
and Chris Blakemore). We need a coach who can develop young talent.
I suppose what we will end up with is some coach rejected by some
other program or someone who comes cheap. If Adelaide can't compete
with other clubs on money it makes their decision not to get Palmer
when they could have even worse. Geeeeezzz!!!!
Xref: sparky aus.sport:399 rec.sport.basketball.pro:19538
From: mrp@ITD.Adelaide.EDU.AU (Mark Prior)
Newsgroups: aus.sport,rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: NBL: Magic defeat Tigers 95-88 in game 3 for title
Date: 7 Nov 1992 07:52:52 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Division, University of Adelaide
Distribution: aus
NNTP-Posting-Host: sirius.itd.adelaide.edu.au

In article <9230811.16445@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, rns@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Robert Noel STURROCK) writes:
|> mrp@ITD.Adelaide.EDU.AU (Mark Prior) writes:
|>
|> >Where's Fisher off to?
|>
|> The rumour I've had is that Fisher will go wherever Palmer goes.. Brisbane?
|> Townsville?
|>
That is very interesting because it seems likely that Palmer will be
heading for Adelaide! :-). Townsville already have a coach and it
appears that Brisbane's first choice is some American coach. Palmer
and family have been in Adelaide looking at houses and it sounds if
the Sixer management are very keen to get him.

Mark.
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Newsgroups: aus.sport
Subject: Re: IV Basketball                                          
From: baragry@latcs1.lat.OZ.AU (Jason M Baragry)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 04:44:05 GMT
 <9230819.29049@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> <1992Nov3.230352.24691@latcs1.lat.oz.au> 
 <1992Nov4.024902.19034@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> <1992Nov4.045020.3467@latcs1.lat.oz.au> <1992Nov5.032307.640@lugb.latrobe.edu.au>
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

In article <1992Nov5.032307.640@lugb.latrobe.edu.au>, STA39018786H@LUST.LATROBE.EDU.AU (ECKY) writes:

|> 	Three-peat in the boat races..... I heard an ugly rumor that you guys
|> went home early each night during IV, and didn't particpate in boat races. If 
|> that's true then it's no wonder you won the tournament.
|> 
|> 			;-)
|> 

	We won the boat races this year! And the girls finished 3rd I think.

Anyway, we're already warming up for boat races at IV 93 (in Queensland maybe,
if the Australian University Sports Federation ever gets around to figuring
out where to hold it and how to hold it!)



Jas
Newsgroups: aus.hi-fi
From: hedley@ee.su.oz.au ()
Subject: VAF speaker kits
Reply-To: hedley@ee.su.oz.au ()
Organization: Electrical Engineering, The University of Sydney, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 01:12:05 GMT

I have just seen the article in this months EA on the VAF speaker kits, and as
I have no way of hearing them, I would like to get some feedback from the net.

I am particularly interested in the DC-5, and would like to know how it
compares to other speakers in its price range ($500).

If there is enough interest I will summarise the replies.

Mark Hedley
hedley@ee.su.oz.au
From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher)
Newsgroups: aus.hi-fi
Subject: Re: Sansui Amplifier
Date: 10 Nov 1992 03:08:54 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au

bown@Icarus.curtin.edu.au (Bruce Bown) writes:


>	Good Morning Netland,
>			     I have a Sansui AU2900 amp that is playing up 
>and the local "agent" wants a ridiculous price for a photocopy of the 
>service manual. I was wondering whether anyone knows who is the Australian 
>service agent and what their Fax\Phone number is

How much is he asking?

Is it even legal for him to photocopy it and sell it?

Scott.
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Newsgroups: aus.hi-fi
From: bown@Icarus.curtin.edu.au (Bruce Bown)
Subject: Sansui Amplifier
Organization: Computing Centre, Curtin University of Technology
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:30:34 GMT


	Good Morning Netland,
			     I have a Sansui AU2900 amp that is playing up 
and the local "agent" wants a ridiculous price for a photocopy of the 
service manual. I was wondering whether anyone knows who is the Australian 
service agent and what their Fax\Phone number is


				Regards
					Bruce Bown
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 Hardware Support   Fax:   (09) 351-2673
 Computing Centre,  Curtin University,  Perth,  Western Australia

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Newsgroups: aus.bicycle,rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.racing,rec.bicycles.rides,rec.bicycles.soc
From: peterg@pta.pyramid.com.au (Peter Garlick)
Subject: Citibank City To The Gong Ride For MS
Followup-To: aus.bicycle
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Sydney
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:35:16 GMT


Citibank City to the Gong Ride for MS (Sydney Australia)
--------------------------------------------------------

I am trying to locate a 'official' listing of the final placings and times
recorded for the Citibank City to Wollongong Bike Ride held on Sunday, 
November 1st this year. 
Posting on this media would benefit all those who got drenched and dirty.
Thanks in advance
peterg@pta.pyramid.com.au

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Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: mpulver@research.canon.oz.au (Mark Pulver)
Subject: Re: Citibank City To The Gong Ride For MS
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:50:01 GMT


I don't think they are going publish the results.  I beleive I read in the
literature that because its not a race, they don't publish the result. The
"RIDE was the clock" entrants will receive there times by mail so they can
improve next year.

Mark @ Unoffically (by my watch) I did 2:57, but have not receive a notice yet.
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Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: ajft@ajft_sun.cs.adfa.oz.au (Adrian Tritschler)
Subject: GVBR
Reply-To: ajft@csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:47:19 GMT

Two questions on this years Great Victorian Bike Ride:

1) Has anyone else recieved their maps and info on it yet? I paid sometime
	in August and haven't heard anything.

2)	Anyone from Canberra or Sydney willing & able to give me a lift to 
	Melb. on/around 27th Nov? (Me + bike)

	ADrian

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Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: gleeson@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Red Mountain)
Subject: Re: Bicycle bells
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 02:51:42 GMT

In <9231411.14508@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> bhat@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Timothy Alan Heath BELL) writes:

>Does anyone know of the legal requirement for a bell or other warning device
>on one's bicycle (in Victoria)?
>i.e. Do you have to have one?
>What about lights DURING THE DAYTIME?

I think it is a requirement in Victoria to have a warning device on your bike.
I keep my bell under the seat :-) It really got under the skin of one cop
who tried to then tell me that it must be visible. My reply was why should
it be?... cars are allowed to have their horns in the engine bay, so why not
me? He also tried to get me for having no lights, but my Vistalites were in
my backpack. In this case the law states that you must have lights on after
sunset, but doesn't specify if they should be attached to the bike at all
times. After all, there's no reason that they should be, and I'm buggered if
I'm going to leave my $50 Vistalites on the bike all day and have to take them
off every time I leave the bike (increasing the probability that sometime
I'm gonna forget them, and Murphy says that will be the time that the theif
will be waiting to make off with them :-(

Hope this helps,
Marty.
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Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: bhat@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Timothy Alan Heath BELL)
Subject: Re: Bike paths, Melbourne Eastern suburbs
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:28:23 GMT

morwenna@cyclone.maths.monash.edu.au (ms  m    griffiths) writes:
>  however, I had
>difficulty where the "yarra track" ends (near MacRobertsons bridge) and
>where the "gardiners creek track" starts at Kooyong.  What is a good way
>to get around this problem?  I find that i either end up on main roads
>for rather longer than i would like or i go along steep winding side
>streets in an attempt to find my way through!!

To get to the Gardiner's creek path from the Yarra path:

-Cross MacRobertsons bridge (the footpath is exceptionally rough, but fairly
pedestrian-free).
-Cross the on/off ramp to the freeway (near the roundabout), thus ending up
next to the Burnley golf course.
-Follow the path along the south edge of the Burnley golf course until...
-Just before the path continues under the Glen-Waverly rail bridge, an
alternate path turns left, up a short hill, and connects to the path on the
rail bridge.
-Follow the continuation of the rail bridge path next to St.Kevins jnr school
( I think).
-Turn left when you get to the road.
-Go about 30m down the road, until the stairs down to Heyington station.
-Carry your bike down the stairs, then turn right on the newly paved path
(hooray!). The path goes up and down a "slight" hill, but it's better than being
on hilly roads in my opinion. Watch out for th bike trap at the top (a railing
across the path).
-At the bottom of the path, either dogleg right onto the road or continue along
the unmade path (I haven't been on that path, so I recommend the road).
-Continue down the road, turn left at the stop sign, down the short hill, then
left at the next stop sign. The follow the road around the bend to the right,
and continue until Glenferrie Rd. Turn left and cross the railway tracks, 
and continue (on road or footpath as per your liking) under the freeway and
across the creek.
-Turn right onto the path to the north of the creek. This is the Gardiners
Creek path, and it is reasonably well posted all the way to Jell's park.
Just watch out for posts in the middle of the path on either side of the bridges
across the creek.
-After crossing Winton Rd, wave to my house (just after the park).

I hope this helps!

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Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: ednstras@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au (Michael Strasser)
Subject: Re: Bicycle bells
Organization: ITC, Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:17:15 GMT

I never used to have a bell, but found that yelling at people (which is
louder) may not have the immediately desired effect because it isn't clear
to the recipients (who are never looking) that it is a cyclist yelling at
them.  When they hear a bicycle bell they know that a bike is coming in
their direction.  What they do then is hard to predict...

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Faculty of Education
Griffith University
Brisbane, Australia
Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: alanf@cs.monash.edu.au (Alan Grant Finlay)
Subject: Re: Bicycle bells
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:55:49 GMT

bhat@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Timothy Alan Heath BELL) writes:

>gleeson@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Red Mountain) writes:
>You may be interested why I was pulled over in the first place. Here's the
>story:
>The Police car in front of me changed lanes without indicating and slowed to
>stop. As I passed it, I asked "Why didn't you indicate??" through the open

You should have said this in the first place.  Your punishment was for
being cheeky to cops.  If you had a bell they would have found another
excuse to get at you.  Actually you were lucky they didn't pull you over
and search you for stolen goods (its a well known fact to police that
the main virtue of bicycles is that they can't be heard when used to
commit a robbery).  Whatever you do don't swear at them in these circumstances,
even if they swear at you first - they'll book you for it and confuse the
order of the two events.

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Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: martin@matilda.vut.edu.au (Martin Schweitzer)
Subject: Re: Bicycle bells
Organization: Victoria University of Technology
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:25:21 GMT

In article <9231423.29640@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> bhat@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Timothy Alan Heath BELL) writes:
>
>Next time, I'll make sure I have a bell before picking on bad police drivers.:)
>
>Tim Bell.
     ^^^^
I couldn't help noticing the irony of Bell being stopped for not
having a bell.  I was wondering, if I got stopped and asked where
my Bell is, if I pointed to my helmet and said this is a Bell, 
what the reaction would be.


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Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: tosca@crispin_sun.cs.adfa.oz.au (Crispin Russell)
Subject: Re: Bicycle bells
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:46:09 GMT

In article <9231423.29640@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, bhat@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Timothy Alan Heath BELL) writes:
|> 
|> You may be interested why I was pulled over in the first place. Here's the
|> story:
|> The Police car in front of me changed lanes without indicating and slowed to
|> stop. As I passed it, I asked "Why didn't you indicate??" through the open
|> window. I stopped at the red light, the car came up and the cop asked me to
|> pull off. Going over my bicycle, he noticed it lacked a bell. But we all know
|> I REALLY got the ticket for pointing out that the policeman had broken the
|> traffic law.
|> Bummer.
|> 
|> Next time, I'll make sure I have a bell before picking on bad police drivers.:)
|> 
|> Tim Bell.
|> bhat@mullauna.cs.mu.oz.au
|> 

	my brother in law made the mistake of following a speeding police car
at the same speed (in a car of course).  The cop stopped and booked him which 
I thought was awfully funny.  He objected officially and got off as the cop
was breaking the law for no good reason.  I'm not suggesting you will get off
as well if you object but it might be worth a try.

Regards
funny and that he deserved all he got 
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Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: bhat@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Timothy Alan Heath BELL)
Subject: Bicycle bells
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:26:24 GMT

Does anyone know of the legal requirement for a bell or other warning device
on one's bicycle (in Victoria)?

i.e. Do you have to have one?

What about lights DURING THE DAYTIME?

The reason I'm asking is a $20 traffic fine I got recently, with the words
"Fail to have lamps and equipment". The cop says it was for not having a bell.
So I'd be interested if anyone knows anything about this, or if anyone else
has been got for not having a bell.

It was in Swanston Walk, by the way.

Thanks,
Tim Bell
bhat@mullauna.cs.mu.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: bhat@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Timothy Alan Heath BELL)
Subject: Re: Bicycle bells
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:28:10 GMT

gleeson@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Red Mountain) writes:
>In <9231411.14508@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> bhat@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Timothy Alan Heath BELL) writes:
>>Does anyone know of the legal requirement for a bell or other warning device
>>on one's bicycle (in Victoria)?
>>i.e. Do you have to have one?
>>What about lights DURING THE DAYTIME?

>I think it is a requirement in Victoria to have a warning device on your bike.
>I keep my bell under the seat :-) It really got under the skin of one cop
>who tried to then tell me that it must be visible. My reply was why should
>it be?... cars are allowed to have their horns in the engine bay, so why not
>me? He also tried to get me for having no lights, but my Vistalites were in
							  ^^^^^^^^^^
I've heard that these have a rather dubious standing as the only lights on
a bicycle, i.e. you need beam lights. Still, I swear by my Vistalites...

>Hope this helps,
Thanks.

You may be interested why I was pulled over in the first place. Here's the
story:
The Police car in front of me changed lanes without indicating and slowed to
stop. As I passed it, I asked "Why didn't you indicate??" through the open
window. I stopped at the red light, the car came up and the cop asked me to
pull off. Going over my bicycle, he noticed it lacked a bell. But we all know
I REALLY got the ticket for pointing out that the policeman had broken the
traffic law.
Bummer.

Next time, I'll make sure I have a bell before picking on bad police drivers.:)

Tim Bell.
bhat@mullauna.cs.mu.oz.au