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From: ilaine@panix.com (Liz Stokes)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Re: new knitting project
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:19:44 GMT
Organization: Panix Public Access Internet & Unix, NYC

In article <1993Jan10.004436.9455@hemlock.cray.com> jill@cray.com (Jill McAllister) writes:

	[sad but typical story deleted]
>Am I the only one who does things like this?
	heh, not even close. I went to my knitting/weaving shop to buy some
nice wool for socks - shouldn't be too expensive I thought, socks don't take
more than a couple ounces each tops. The next thing I knew I was walking out
with almost 10 pounds of silk noil yarn in assorted colors. It was on sale
for $12 a pound and the colors were gorgous and I needed 5 colors, but the
cones were huge so I had to buy 2-3 pounds of each color. I'm hoping I can 
sell the rest to a friend of mine, I doubt I can use more than half without
making an entire wardrobe in this yarn. I'm thinking of making an SCA gown,
a mundane skirt and sweater, and perhaps a pair of socks ;)
			-Liz


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                   | 	a loom, we're going to wind all the yarn into balls
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From: sundance@max.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Re: x-stitch kits
Date: 12 Jan 93 12:24:01 PST
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In article <1iv4ncINNkjk@alice.cs.purdue.edu>, berninge@cs.purdue.edu (James Berninger) writes:
> jshekara@wisconsin.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Jennifer Shekaran) writes:
>>ilaine@panix.com (Liz Stokes) writes:
>>>Do they ever put enought thread in these kits? I've been working on 
>>>this really large project. I'm only about 1/4 of the way through, and I'm
>>>already out of 4 colors, it makes me so mad!...
>>Oh, oh, oh, I HAAAATTTTTTTEEEEE when this happens.  I used a kit for something
>>that I couldn't get otherwise and ran out of thread...
>
Interesting...I usually don't have any trouble at all with kits.  As a matter of
fact, I usually have significant amounts of floss left over.  One exception
was one of the MarBek Angels I did - they shorted me on white, but big deal.
White you can get anytime.  Oh yeah, the one I'm working on now left out one
color altogether, but I wrote to them and they sent more than was required
about a week and a half later.  The only thing I hate about kits is the way
they identify the colors:  pale blue-green gray, medium green-blue gray,
light gray-green blue, dark brown, very dark brown, etc.  Sometimes you just
have to guess and hope for the best.

Sandi

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From: dmiller@theory.lcs.mit.edu (Dick and Jill Miller)
Subject: Re: 1993 projects: Mine and Yours
Organization: Laboratory for Computer Science, MIT
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:52:09 GMT

Subject: Re: 1993 projects:  Mine and Yours

Well, this thread has been going on for a while and now I can't hold back 
any longer.

I am just starting to design a sweater for my husband.  It will have a 
picture of a canoe gliding across a sunset on a northern lake.  I found the 
picture in a book about Northern Minnesota by Sigurd Olsen; illustrated by 
one of my all-time favorite north-woods illustrators, Francis Lee Jaques.  
The back and sleeves of the sweater will be in the same colors in a diamond 
pattern from Kaffe Fassets "Family Album" book.

I have used the "Knitwear/Sweater Design" software package to get the 
knitting instructions (how many stitches to cast on, how many to increase 
when, etc.).  This little package wa quite helpful for this project. (BTW, 
a new version is available on the net thru simtel mirror sites via 
anonymous ftp in Directory PD1:<MSDOS.CAD> as KNWRS120.ZIP  KnitWare: 
Sweater knitting design/pattern prnt.  I don't know why this program was in 
the CAD subdirectory because it is not my idea of CAD, but that's where you 
can find it.

I've been having a great time getting together a 'palette' of yarn for this 
project; visiting thrift shops, begging from friends, etc.  It is all over 
the guest-room floor at this moment and looks great.  I've even undone some 
one-of-a-kind (i.e., I lost one of the pair) mittens I made a while ago for 
thier yarn which is, even now, drying on a broomstick over my tub.

If I felt better (I'm recovering from the mother of all colds) I'd be half 
done with the knitting by now.

--Jill

P.S. I decided not to discuss all those things I need to finish.  That list 
is WAY too long.

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From: votava@fndaud.fnal.gov (Margaret Votava)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Re: Xstitch, metallic thread, celtic patterns
Date: 4 Jan 1993 21:22:25 GMT
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, Batavia IL
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It helps if you can run a similar color regular floss with the metallic
thread, e.g. run a yellow with gold metallic. You don't loose much of the
shine, and it makes it much easier to pull through.

Margaret Votava
From: ilaine@panix.com (Liz Stokes)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Re: Knitted Acrylic Baby Afghan
Date: 9 Jan 93 18:07:18 GMT
Organization: Panix Public Access Internet & Unix, NYC

In article <30600011@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> lisa@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Lisa Kent) writes:
>I'm wondering if I need to bother finishing the baby afghan I started
>knitting about 3 years ago.  I began it shortly after I taught myself
>how to knit, and I chose inexpensive acrylic yarn.  I've since fallen
>in love with wool and cotton and have a hard time going back to the
>acrylic.  I'm almost half done with it.
	Well, I don't like working with acrylic myself, but it is
hypo-allergenic. At least I've never heard of anyone being allergic to it.
Babies might react to wool and especially silk and angora,and might 
even develop an allergy they wouldn't have otherwise if there weren't exposed
so young. There is a very informative article on this in an old issue of 
Spin Off. Sorry, I don't remember which one, it was a couple of years ago.
							-Liz


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Ilaine de Cameron  | 	We're going to try an experiment now. Instead of using
                   | 	a loom, we're going to wind all the yarn into balls
ilaine@panix.com   |    and adopt an infinite number of kittens...
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From: kkriebl@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Karen Kriebl)
Subject: WANTED: an eight harness floor loom
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: oh
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:41:31 GMT

I'm looking for an eight harness floor loom that is in good working
order and is reasonably priced.  Currently I have a four harness jack loom.
I would be open to a trade of some sort.  I have a truck, so I can pick up
the loom.

Karen
614-292-4577
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From: vln@icpsr.umich.edu (Victoria Neff)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Re: FNEWS -> Threads
Date: 12 Jan 1993 17:28:00 GMT
Organization: Inter-University Consortium for Political and Social Research
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In article <24656@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM> deeds@solaria.hac.com writes:

>May I ask if anyone has subscription information to Spin-Off
>and/or Handwoven ?  (Is it in the faq?)

I have a subscription to Spin-Off.  It's my very favorite magazine.  The 
only bad thing about it is that it's a quarterly....  The quality is
very high, both the quality of the articles and the quality of the production
(that's another thing that disappointed me about the knitting mags; they
look so home-made...).

If you've any interest in spinning, Spin-Off is the magazine for you!!

Also lots of articles about dyeing, and some directions on how to make
finished articles (knitting, crochet, weaving, etc).
From: senti@icarus.lis.pitt.edu (Shannon L. VanHemert)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: More info from Chris O'Donnelly on GIFXTS X-stitch program
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:53:23 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: senti@icarus.lis.pitt.edu

From: Chris O'Donnell <70431.1427@CompuServe.COM>
To: "\"Shannon L. VanHemert\"" <senti@lis.pitt.edu>
Subject: Re: Gifxts program description

I don't know how to get it onto the Internet. It's is shareware, so anyone
who has a copy can upload it anyplace, as long as they upload the entire
thing. I distribute a pkzipped file containing all the required files,
program, documentation, etc

What I've started doing, since I've had so many requests is to pass on
the following information: The program is currently available in the
Crafts forum of Compuserve, somewhere on Fidonet, on the Fibernet BBS,
and from the Seattle Textile Computer Users Group on their disk(s). I
have a telephone # for Fibernet and an address for STCUG, I'm searching
for access # for Fidonet.

    I offer to all registered users a disk containing major upgrades for
a $5.00 handling fee (postage and disk purchase). I am now extending that
offer to anyone who has no other way to get the program. My address is
576 Benson Road Middlebury Ct. 06762. Send a check and specify disk size
(I have a 5.25 high density at home, my husband has a 3.5 high density at
work) & I'll send back version 3.5. Registration fee is $20.00. (or send
the $20.00, become registered, get free upgrades, be notified of version
4.0 ( and recieve copy for $5.00) 4.0 (for registered users) will have a
"startup" library of alphabet letters/numbers and a conversion program to
go from other formats (ie PCX) to GIF. (these 2 are in the wings, waiting
for 4.0 to be complete)) Phone support is available for any user,
registered or not. My # is in the documentation. 

If you have any questions for Chris O'Donnelly, you can e-mail her at:  
    70431.1427@compuserve.com
From: vln@icpsr.umich.edu (Victoria Neff)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Re: Felting and Quilt Batts
Date: 12 Jan 1993 17:31:27 GMT
Organization: Inter-University Consortium for Political and Social Research
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In article <1993Jan8.094936.52682@gmuvax.gmu.edu> sbowen@gmuvax.gmu.edu writes:
>
> ...
>They even have colored wool they will card up into quilt batts. (Ron, this may
>be the secret of how that felt evening gown turned out so well.) The manager
>I spoke with seemed aware of fleece quality but unaware of sheep breeds. (They
>also have other goodies for sale and a flyer that explains them.)
 

So, let's hear about this felt evening gown!!  (Please?)
From: jshekara@wisconsin.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Jennifer Shekaran)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Re: x-stitch kits
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:19:04 GMT
Organization: Computervision Corp.

In article <C0pLIr.G0F@panix.com>, ilaine@panix.com (Liz Stokes) writes:
|> 
|> 	Do they ever put enought thread in these kits? I've been working on 
|> this really large project. I'm only about 1/4 of the way through, and I'm
|> already out of 4 colors, it makes me so mad! I know it's not my stitching,
|> they only gave me 1 strand of a color I will need at least 4 or 5 of so it's
|> not even close - it simply isn't possible to finish with the materials given.
|> Fortunately, it's all DMC floss and they give the numbers so I can get more,
|> but really I shouldn't have to. 
|> 	Well, I feel much better now, thanks ;)
|> 				-Liz
|> 
|> -- 
|> Liz Stokes         | 	Ilaine's E-Z Garb Workshop
|> Ilaine de Cameron  | 	We're going to try an experiment now. Instead of using
|>                    | 	a loom, we're going to wind all the yarn into balls
|> ilaine@panix.com   |    and adopt an infinite number of kittens...


Oh, oh, oh, I HAAAAATTTTTTTTEEEEEE when this happens.  I used a kit for something
that I couldn't get otherwise and ran out of thread.  There was NO information
included on the chart about the colors and I discovered when sitting down
with my DMC color card that they had in fact not taken all DMC colors but had
used some DMC colors and some ANCHOR colors.  VERRRRRYYYYY frustrating indeed
and this is one reason that I now no longer use kits.  

In addition, I have now found that I tend to change the colors pretty freely on 
the charts as well and so haven't bought a kit in several years.  Though I did give
in and buy a Maureen Appleton kit for a sampler that I love and will never be able
to get just the chart for...but this kit is gourmet, so I guess that's okay!

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From: jill@cray.com (Jill McAllister)
Subject: Re: Fair Isle patterns
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:53:01 CST

In article <1ii64qINN850@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse) writes:
>
>Does anyone have a good source for Fair Isle patterns?

The best thing to do, I think, is to go to a good knitting shop.  There
are so many patterns available, and from so many sources, that seeing
them all together is the best way to find what you most want.  Cleveland
should have some good ones, given its size.


Jill McAllister
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Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
From: edg@netcom.com (Ed Greenberg)
Subject: Cross Stitch Designer Windows Program
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 17:17:31 GMT

I've always wondered why some enterprising soul didn't design a Cross
Stitch/Needlepoint related program.  Now I find that over on
CompuServe, the first release of "Cross Stitch Designer" is available
for downloading.  

I don't think it's in an FTP site yet, but the author can be addressed
at:

	R. Scott Horton
	HobbyWare
	9686 Spruce Lane
	Fishers, IN 46038

I have no connection with this company or product.  I haven't even
registered it yet or taken it for the more than the most cursory spin.
If there is interest, I'll see about getting Scott to permit moving it
to an FTP archive of some sort.  

Here is the basic description of Cross Stitch Designer:

General Information

The Cross-Stitch Designer allows you to create and edit cross-stitch
patterns.  The goal of this program is to display  your pattern 
design using the computer so that you can see how the stitched  pattern
will appear before any stitching is done.   

Full, half, quarter, and outline stitches are supported by this program.
Many of the standard thread colors are provided in a list 
from which you chose when creating a pattern.  Complete printing
capability is provided.  You can print a pattern using symbols for 
representing thread types and colors on a  standard single-color
printer, or print a pattern using stitches and actual colors on a 
color printer. 

All pattern editing is done using the mouse.  You use the mouse to
select the type of stitch, the thread color, and the location of 
each stitch.  The mouse can also be used to select a region of a pattern
which then can be moved to another location on the 
pattern, copied to the clipboard, or cut from the pattern. 

Cross-Stitch Designer also supports the conversion of Windows bitmaps
into a pattern region.  This very powerful feature allows 
you to create patterns using existing graphics files.   These bitmaps
can be created using graphics programs such as the 
Windows Paintbrush program or  any program that can create Windows 3.0
bitmaps.   

Cross-Stitch Designer supports the VGA color palette.   These means that
pure colors can be used for thread colors if your 
monitor cards supports the 256 color mode.


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From: seg3e@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Susan E. Gants)
Subject: Needle Point Question
Originator: seg3e@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:03:21 GMT

Hi - I just received a needlepoint project as a gift.  I haven't done
any needlepoint for about 20+ years, and therefore have a question or
two.  (My current crafts are knitting, cross-stitch and basket weaving.)
The kit recommends putting the canvas on stretcher bars (the way I
usually do my x-stitch).  Is this the general approach?  Does this
mean I have an excuse to go buy another set of bars :-) as my other
two sets are currently in use?

This kit uses 6-strand cotton floss and I'm to use all 6 strands
together.  Do I need to worry about them being parallel as I would for
2 or 3 strands when x-stitching?  It doesn't say anything about this -
but just says not to separate the floss - use all 6 strands as 1.  I
really enjoy this group (and alt.sewing) - especially the recent
discussion of organizing.

Thanks!
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From: jill@cray.com (Jill McAllister)
Subject: Re: Needle Point Question
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: 4 Jan 93 15:50:26 CST

In article <1993Jan4.190321.17228@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> seg3e@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Susan E. Gants) writes:
>Hi - I just received a needlepoint project as a gift.
>The kit recommends putting the canvas on stretcher bars (the way I
>usually do my x-stitch).  Is this the general approach?  

Stretcher bars are the best way to keep your canvas from getting pulled
out of shape by the stitches you use.  If you will be using tent stitch
(or basketweave), without stretcher bars your piece would become so
out of shape that it would be impossible to block back to square and
have it actually *stay* square.

>This kit uses 6-strand cotton floss and I'm to use all 6 strands
>together.  Do I need to worry about them being parallel as I would for
>2 or 3 strands when x-stitching?

Yes, your threads will look best if they lie parallel.  The method I
was taught is called "stripping your threads."  You cut a length (18-
20 inches), and hold it at one end (moderately loosely).  With your
other hand, you pick out one strand and pull it straight up, being a
little gentle.  The length that was dangling will sort of bunch up,
but if you pull the strand up, it won't tangle and you can shake it
back out.  Do this for each of the 6 strands, and then lay them all
back together.  Then thread your needle.  This will make them lie
parallel and get rid of the twist that they had in the skein.


Jill McAllister
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From: "VICKIE STARBUCK" <TS0058@ohstmvsa.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: FNEWS -> Threads
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:07:00 GMT


I have recently discontinued my subscription to Threads. I
have been collecting this magazine just about since it's
inception.  My original reason for getting Threads is because
it had a variety of articles of interest to me, and offered
technical information in a format that I appreciated.  I, for
instance, at the time would not subscribe to FiberArts, because
they did not offer enough technical stuff in the "how to" department,
and spent, *for me*, too much time in the what is art, surely
fiber is too debate.  Anyway, I have found that for my purposesSpin-Off is currently a better magazine for me than threads.  It
has information more specific to my needs, as in spinning, knitting,
felting, etc.  And while Threads offered so many wonderful
things in the past that I would have liked to try ( I think now
in another life time) recently it has not offered enough new for
me in the media that I work with mostly.

All of the above is pretty subjective.  I would recommend that
anyone look at Threads for a year, and then make a decision if
it's for them.  Especially if you are interested  in tailoring,
Threads has some wonderful tips.  The magazine is a little broad
in what it covers, which has strong and weak points.  I'm inclined
now to check it at the newsstands and see if the current issue
has anything I want and buy it that way.

My 2 cents worth,
Vickie Starbuck
ts0058@ohstmvsa.acs.ohio-state.edu
From: karplus@cse.ucsc.edu (Kevin Karplus)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Threads
Date: 8 Jan 1993 04:59:55 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)
Distribution: world
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I too have subscribed to Threads from the beginning, and have been very
disheartened by the downward slide in variety.  The quality of what
they present is still good, but it is all sewing and knitting, with a
dash of "famous designer".  They ocassionally stretch themselves a
tiny bit and do hand-knitting instead of mahine knitting, or quilting
instead of tailoring, but where is the weaving, spinning, dyeing, and
other "threads" that they started out with.

I did write a letter when I first noticed the change (a few years
back), but it has gotten substantially worse, and I have been strongly
tempted to cancel my subscription.  I only keep it now because my wife
likes the "designer" articles and the ocassional hand-knitting article.

I tried more specialized magazines (Handwoven and Shuttle, Spindle,
and Dyepot).  I've discontinued both:  Handwoven is too much a
"beginner's-only" magazine, and Shuttle, Spindle, and Dyepot was too
much like a low-quality alumni magazine---if you didn't already know
the people there was nothing of interest.

One magazine that I have several back issues of, but which my
subscription for never got filled is Weaver's.  This is pretty-much a
multi-harness, complex weave-only magazine, which is not my main
interest, but seems less boring than Handwoven.  One of these days
I'll get around to writing to them again to try to get a subscription.

Fiber Arts is (to me) a useless magazine.  Like American Craft, it
seems to feature only things that are both useless and ugly, and it
never discusses technique, only "gallery product".  [Someone said that
it also printed by Taunton Press, but the only "Fiber Arts" listing in
MEVYL (the University of California library catalog) has an Asheville
NC publisher, and Taunton Press is listed as Newton CT.]  Taunton
Press does do Fine Woodworking, which is the style that Threads was
originally emulating, before they degenerated to Vogue+Good Housekeeping.

I know of know general fiber magazine that fills the niche that
Threads originally tried to fill, and I miss it.
If anyone knows anything that is worth looking at (given my above
prejudices), please let me know.

Kevin Karplus



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