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From: pwjarman@cc.utah.edu (PARRY W. JARMAN)
Subject: Employment Opportunities
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 26 Dec 1992 09:22 MST  

Just a "Want Ad" thrown in here admidst these fascinating
cultural dissertations.

My husband is interested in employment in Alaska.
He is a CPA, specializing in High Tech & Insurance.
 "Big Six" firm and his clients include Thiokol &
Novell. He has worked with Engineering entities as
well.

Within the next two-three years, he wants to make a
career change to someplace where he can "live on
the edge." He is also looking for foreign type
assignments.

Is there a state office that specializes in employment?
Or are there employment journals anyone could 
recommend?

Also, we do have three daughters--so schools or lack
thereof is a consideration.

If any of y'all out there have any leads, addresses etc.
please contact me at PWJARMAN@cc.utah.edu--

Thanks--Heather Jarman

BTW, we don't get -35 here, we get -10 once in awhile and
snow is a way of life so going to a further extreme will
just require a new parka and not a major lifestyle adjustment :)
<WE HOPE> It's not like we're from Phoenix or Orlando...
<though all the dark during the winter will be new...>
From: system@freds.cojones.com (George W. Hayduke)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re: Books about Alaska (hopefully with pictures 8-)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 14:25:12 AST
Organization: Radio Free Fredbox

bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Downing) writes:

> John McPhee, "Coming Into the Country", about McPhee's experiences in
> Alaska. He presents several views of Alaska including state
> government, Inuits, back-to-nature bush living, and just plain bopping
> around remote areas. 

*Semantical Nitpicking Alert*  Inuits are found in Canada, you surely meant
Inupiaqs. *End Semantical Nitpicking*





      Fred Polsky v1.0, who has been known to handle under George.
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
From: nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Nome, NEt and Anchorage!
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 01:57:19 GMT

I thought Anchorage was a suburb of Seattle? But Los Anchorage sounds about
right (North LA?)..
I grew up there, ask ferret, TDm, DT, BB, and other WWIV/WWCP nuts about me..
George Haydukes, yourname rings a interesting bell. Yep Im still here in Nome.. 
It has been an interesting time. The local eskimo culture once you get out of
Nome is interesting.. Nome is just a smaller Anchorage in many way.. More like
a dumping ground, meeting place, breeding place, trading place, drinkign place
for NW (Seward Pennisula) area..


Michael Adams
Alias: Morgoth/Ghost Wheel 
nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
From: 402-9702@wwiv.cojones.com (A.J. #402 @9702)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re: Healthy Winter
Date: 1 Jan 93 07:55:22 GMT

RE: Dividends
BY: cjg#hayes.ims.alaska.edu (Chris George) #323 @502

Sorry to have to tell you, but Alaska's dividend sent to residents are
part of the earnings from investments (savings)....

The residents of the state voted early on in the oil boom to put a
percentage of all earnings from resources into a savings account and to
distribute a percentage of any earnings directly to each resident...

Any State can do the same..

                                  A.J.

 * KingQWK 1.05 * The Anchorage Fish Wrapper and Litter Box Liner Press
                                                                                                
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
From: jsdph@acad3.alaska.edu (Dennis P. Harris)
Subject: Re: Healthy Winter
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC
Organization: University of Alaska - Fairbanks
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 06:10:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec27.021416.8710@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, les@cs.stanford.edu writes...
>Michael Adams writes:
>  Well more states can do what we have done, they just have to do it.. Its like
>  savings, take a little of your money every payday and put alittle aside.. Try
>  to live of less and it will come to you.. Whenyou have enough to to start
>  playing dividends, then do it.. 
> 
>This is undiluted nonsense.  What Alaska has done is to exploit its
>natural resouces and use the proceeds to create a welfare state that
>is headed for a crash.
> 
>The primary source of state income is, of course, North Slope oil.
>The annual dividend has been paid to residents even in years when the
>price of oil fell to the point where expenses substantially exceeded
>income, but the state legislature treats the dividend as politically
>untouchable.
>
Perhaps you misunderstand the dividend program..       +++QQ  3
i5
   3
i5  
   is compunded by the fact that every gallon of petroleum
>products sent to native villages is subsidized by the state so as to
>encourage the use of heating oil, power boats, and snow machines
>in place of older resources.  The state has also put in satellite
>television with cable distribution in most villages so that the people
>can watch TV instead of telling each other those silly old myths that
>they used to pass long winter nights before the '80s.
> 
>What the state has not done is to create industries that will permit
>the native people to support themselves in their new lifestyle when the
>oil money runs out in a decade or two.  I fully expect the Alaska
>legislature to run straight into that brick wall without blinking,
>then request subsidies from the Federal government to deal with their
>"unfortunate and unforeseen" poverty.
>--
>Les Earnest           Phone:  415 941-3984    Fax: 415 941-3934
>Internet: Les@cs.Stanford.edu              USMail: 12769 Dianne Drive
>UUCP: . . . decwrl!cs.Stanford.edu!Les         Los Altos Hills, CA 94022
================================================================================
dennis p. harris				  bitnet: jsdph@acad3.alaska.edu

  "The nation that controls magnetism controls the Universe." --- Diet Smith
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
From: nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Old Honey Bucket.. c.1981+
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 01:43:56 GMT

God the old Honey Bucket in ways I miss it much. Or maybe it was the life style
I once had when it was around.. Professional student, I spent many a night on
email and other things at the old CIS/CIS lab on UAA/ACC.. 

I used to be CSMCADAMS or ASMCADAMS or ASMCA.. 


Michael Adams
Alias: Morgoth/Ghost Wheel 
nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu

Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
From: wvogel@MtHolyoke.edu (keeper of the tone)
Subject: what luck finding
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 20:45:34 GMT


as a telecommunications technician (aka telephone man) what kind of luck
would i have finding a job in alaska?
either working for a college or university as i do now or working for the
local telephone company?

i would love to move back to my home state but not without some type of
job prospect

fairbanks native
1950
From: lib1p@jane.uh.edu (Tammy Stark Blandino)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re: Juneau, was I love Alaska!
Date: 21 Dec 1992 12:41 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: jane.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Dec18.185401.2357@hubcap.clemson.edu>, amie@hubcap.clemson.edu (Amie Spitzer) writes...
>gauss@cco.caltech.edu (Edward J. Gauss) writes:
> 
>>In article <Bz0DJt.2wt@mail.boi.hp.com> jburrill@boi.hp.com (Jim Burrill) writes:
>>>:
>>>Juneau has some form of precipitation 300 days a year...
>>>....... Is there any employment base, other than the state offices?
>>>
> 
>>Nearly all people in Juneau work in government or in the lobby groups
>>that enjoy the splendid isolation that keeps the Alaskan citizen far
>>removed from their legislators.  It is a paradise for well funded special
>>interest groups.  Women are much in demand for secretarial/clerical jobs
>>but there is no work for men.  I would guess that the sex ratio for singles
>>in Juneau is very heavily skewed toward female.  Nonetheless the shortage
>>of female workers makes the salaries for them rather high.  So fellows,
>>let your wife work.  You go fish salmon, and hunt bear!  Insist on
>>having your kitchen redone by my friend Eric there.  He needs the work.
> 
> 
>>                         --Ed
>>                          Fat Moose Flying Service, retired
>> 
>Um, just an observation, but why can't men do secretarial/clerical jobs?
>They do down here in the "backwards" south. We've come a long way, ya know? :)
>Just a curious female. :)
>                                       Amie
>                                 (AK REALLY wannabe but knows better)
> 

Sure they can...

Actually this bodes well for me, not only do I have secretarial skills
and vasts amounts of computer skills, but I am also majoring in Political
Science! 8-)

Guys, I just can't wait!

Tammy
From: 402-9702@wwiv.cojones.com (A.J. #402 @9702)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re: Healthy Winter
Date: 1 Jan 93 07:55:21 GMT

RE: Healthy Recreation
BY: bj368#cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano) #184 @502

C(|  So I would build 
C(|  some huge, superb indoor recreation facilities with some
C(|  of that money.

In most Communities we do have recreational facilities, in many, it's
maybe only the local National Guard Armory... Anchorage did build huge
facilities but with revenues drying up now, there's no money to maintain
them..

                                  A.J.

 * KingQWK 1.05 * The Anchorage Fish Wrapper and Litter Box Liner Press
                                                                                                                    
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
From: les@SAIL.Stanford.edu (Les Earnest)
Subject: "Permanent" Diviends (was Re: Healthy Winter)
Reply-To: les@cs.stanford.edu
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 23:49:51 GMT

402-9702@wwiv.cojones.com (A.J.) writes:
   Dividends were paid the very first year without regard to dividend
   income, since then all dividends to residents are tied directly to
   performance of the permanent fund, if it makes money a portion is
   distributed, if not, none goes out...

Yes, dividends are paid even in years when the state government is
losing money bigtime.  The "permanent" fund was set up by using the
coercive powers of that government, but it was done in a such a way
that the dividends will continue even after the state government has
gone bankrupt.  One of the all-time great acts of political misconduct
and it was all perfectly legal.  Popular too, given that all residents
get in on the payola.

   The Alaska Legislature cannot treat the permanent fund program any kind
   of way, it is NOT something that the Legislature, Administration or
   Courts control or influence, the program was instituted by initiative and
   may only be changed by a vote of the populace.  The fund itself is
   administered by an autonomous cooperation that is not subject to the whims
   of State Government...

In other words, they can't shut it off.

   Any State can do the same...

Yes, any state that has a large pool of oil that is located in a place
that can't be developed without major cooperation from the state
government.  Let's see, now, how many are there like that  .  .  .?

Naturally, most Alaska residents will righteously point out that the
oil dividend is just one of the God-given benefits of living there.
--
Les Earnest           Phone:  415 941-3984    Fax: 415 941-3934
Internet: Les@cs.Stanford.edu              USMail: 12769 Dianne Drive
UUCP: . . . decwrl!cs.Stanford.edu!Les         Los Altos Hills, CA 94022
From: bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re: Healthy Winter
Date: 25 Dec 1992 08:10:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu



In reference to the suggestions about exercising and a
healthy winter, sounds good.
Not sure that fishing or hunting is good exercise, probably
depends on what equipment is involved.
Also driving a snowmobile at 60 to 90 miles an hour as
suggested is....well let's just say I haven't seen that
one in a P.E. class offered down here.
90 miles an hour?  must be a great way to appreciate the
sights sounds and smells of mother nature.

I'll tell you what I would do if I had control of the
budget up there, at least for some time Alaska has been
prosperous enough to have no tax, pay dividends to residents,
etc.
So I would build 
some huge, superb indoor recreation facilities with some
of that money.

-- 
Capt. Kirk: let's head for that planet, third from the sun, it
            looks promising.... |-)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
From: floyd@hayes.ims.alaska.edu (Floyd Davidson)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re: Healthy Winter
Date: 26 Dec 92 19:33:24 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network

In article <1hh54nINN2g1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano) writes:
>that there is money, and yes more than many states,
>==per capita== (not many people in such a big state),
>and thus there are funds for doing some solid creative
>community stuff like (in my mind) free medical, excellent
>rec facilities, etc.

The significance of "per capita" is exactly the opposite of what
you seem to be implying.  There are no economies of scale when
the population is small.

If we have a town of 300 people, and per capita they get $100 each
for a nice medical facility, what do they get?  $30,000 doesn't
even begin to buy a crude medical facility.  

There aren't enough "capita's" here to pool together for many
things.  And if a project includes a large enough area
just so per capita financing looks reasonable, invariably the
ability of people to actually use the facility is diminished
to the point where is isn't a cost effective solution to the
original problem.

Your concepts of "solid creative community stuff" might be just a
little parochial.  Alaska isn't exactly an area of urban sprawl...
the people who live here do so because they like what is here, not
because they think it is a nice place to remake into what exist in
other places.

I'll give you an example...  You have mentioned *indoor*
recreation.  Please realize the main attraction here is *outdoor*
recreation!  Why spend money building what nature provides us for
free?  Our problems is how to maintain it, not how to build it.

On the other hand, if one looks at what has been done in Alaska
there are things where money has been spent in much the way you
are suggesting, just not on all the things you are suggesting.
Schools and health care facilities alone are almost enough to
break the bank, and those two areas have in fact received a lot
of needed attention.



-- 
floyd@ims.alaska.edu        A guest on the Institute of Marine Science computer
Salcha, Alaska              system at the University of Alaska at Fairbanks.
From: system@freds.cojones.com (George W. Hayduke)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re: Looking for info on U of Alaska
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 14:26:47 AST
Organization: Radio Free Fredbox

naraht@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Randolph J. Finder) writes:

> I am looking for a campus of U of Alaska....
> I have a list of chapters in my fraternity and it lists
> an inactive chapterat University of Alaska. Of course this would be at
> only one campus. The only problem is the city it is listed in is "College"
> 
> Was there a campus of U of Alaska in College? In a recent post they only
> mentioned Juneau, Achorage and Fairbanks.

They probably meant fairbanks -- the university campus is considered a
seperate political zone from the city up there. UAA campus is smack dab in
the middle of the city and isn't thought of any differently than the rest of
it.



      Fred Polsky v1.0, who has been known to handle under George.
            "This is Usenet. Facts are irrelevant here."
 The Fredbox +1 907 344 8437  system@freds.cojones.com  Anchorage, Alaska
Sean "Bandwidth" Ryan's favorite BBS, with lots of neat texts and lunatics.
From: 402-9702@wwiv.cojones.com (A.J. #402 @9702)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re: Healthy Winter
Date: 1 Jan 93 07:55:23 GMT

RE: Healthy Winter
BY: les#SAIL.Stanford.edu (Les Earnest) #339 @502

S(|  The primary source of state income is, of course, North Slope oil.
S(|  The annual dividend has been paid to residents even in years when the
S(|  price of oil fell to the point where expenses substantially exceeded
S(|  income, but the state legislature treats the dividend as politically
S(|  untouchable.

Dividends were paid the very first year without regard to dividend
income, since then all dividends to residents are tied directly to
performance of the permanent fund, if it makes money a portion is
distributed, if not, none goes out...

The Alaska Legislature cannot treat the permanent fund program any kind
of way, it is NOT something that the Legislature, Administration or
Courts control or influence, the program was instituted by initiative and
may only be changed by a vote of the populace.  The fund itself is
administered by an autonomous cooperation that is not subject to the whims
of State Government...

Any State can do the same...

                                  A.J.

 * KingQWK 1.05 * The Anchorage Fish Wrapper and Litter Box Liner Press
From: system@freds.cojones.com (George W. Hayduke)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re: Reality vs. TV
Date: 30 Dec 92 14:21:20 GMT
Organization: Radio Free Fredbox

fogarty@sir-c.jpl.nasa.gov (Tim Fogarty) writes:

> I like Northern Exposure too, as long as they dont do too many death episodes

I dunno... I thought that one with the biker guy that was shipped up to
Chris was most excellent (with the Last Supper Club), and the "Whiter Shade
of Pale" ending.

> I spent the summer in Tanana when I was 18, in 1977.  And there were certainl
> some excentric people who would have fit right into any NX episode.

Most of us would fit in to some extent, but I've never met anyone too
terribly like anyone in the show. I have been compared to Chris a time or
two...

> Here is my list of most unrealistic things in NX
> 
>    brick buildings...in the bush, everything is wood or fiberglass siding

Much better insulation in wood or fiberglass, which is of large concern.
Also, brick is not a good choice for earthquake-prone areas...

>    big trees...there are plenty of trees in some parts of AK, but they are
>                never more than a foot or two in diameter.

bzzt. Southeast has some very large trees, as does parts of the Kenai
Peninsula and Kodiak Island.

>    basketball...they played one adult game of basketball in one episode in
>                the summer.  In the bush, the whole town revolves around the 
>                high school basketball team, in the winter.

One of the reasons I'm glad to be living in Anchorage: we revolve around
softball instead.



      Fred Polsky v1.0, who has been known to handle under George.
            "This is Usenet. Facts are irrelevant here."
 The Fredbox +1 907 344 8437  system@freds.cojones.com  Anchorage, Alaska
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From: cb926@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Edmund Joseph Ryan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Query About Alaska Add
Date: 30 Dec 1992 15:48:56 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Greetings,

I have a question about a manual titled "The Alaska Employment 
Manual" which I found advertised at my college New York. The
add says that the manual lists job opportunities from which
you could earn $8000-$10000 over the summer months working
in Alaska. The price of the manual is $10.95 and is provided
by M&L Research located in Seattle. To me this seems like a
ponzi scheme. Does anybody have any information on this?

Also, I remember seeing a story on 20/20 about the perils of  
being an Alaskan fisherman. Though the add implied the manual
didn't focus on any specific type of jobs, I was reminded of 
this because in the story, most of the young men employed
for this job were from the contiguous 48. Does anybody have
any information on this?

Thank you.

Virtually,

Edmund J. Ryan
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
From: cs921013@ariel.yorku.ca (THIRUNAVOOKARASOO ARUMUGAM)
Subject: testing
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:45:16 GMT

testing....

Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
From: cjg@hayes.ims.alaska.edu (Chris George)
Subject: Re: Healthy Winter
Organization: Mr T. Fan Club
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 04:51:43 GMT

sorry buddy, but that's NOT how alaska got its dividends.
the state hasn't even been a state long enough to save the money.
we are lucky to have the revenue we do, and if things keep going the way they
are, that dividend will run out.

but of course, no true greedy alaskan would even think of losing their 
dividend to anything. NOW is when we should take a little of the dividend
and put it into an account.

-cjg
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
From: les@SAIL.Stanford.edu (Les Earnest)
Subject: Re: Healthy Winter
Reply-To: les@cs.stanford.edu
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 02:14:16 GMT

Michael Adams writes:
  Well more states can do what we have done, they just have to do it.. Its like
  savings, take a little of your money every payday and put alittle aside.. Try
  to live of less and it will come to you.. Whenyou have enough to to start
  playing dividends, then do it.. 

This is undiluted nonsense.  What Alaska has done is to exploit its
natural resouces and use the proceeds to create a welfare state that
is headed for a crash.

The primary source of state income is, of course, North Slope oil.
The annual dividend has been paid to residents even in years when the
price of oil fell to the point where expenses substantially exceeded
income, but the state legislature treats the dividend as politically
untouchable.

This problem is compunded by the fact that every gallon of petroleum
products sent to native villages is subsidized by the state so as to
encourage the use of heating oil, power boats, and snow machines
in place of older resources.  The state has also put in satellite
television with cable distribution in most villages so that the people
can watch TV instead of telling each other those silly old myths that
they used to pass long winter nights before the '80s.

What the state has not done is to create industries that will permit
the native people to support themselves in their new lifestyle when the
oil money runs out in a decade or two.  I fully expect the Alaska
legislature to run straight into that brick wall without blinking,
then request subsidies from the Federal government to deal with their
"unfortunate and unforeseen" poverty.
--
Les Earnest           Phone:  415 941-3984    Fax: 415 941-3934
Internet: Les@cs.Stanford.edu              USMail: 12769 Dianne Drive
UUCP: . . . decwrl!cs.Stanford.edu!Les         Los Altos Hills, CA 94022