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From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: dhrystone...
Date: 1 Oct 92 08:34:00 PST
Organization: BBS

Where can I find the dhrystone test at?  Any ftp sites?

Thanx.

frank m. lin
fmlin@terapin.com
cyprus systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell)
Subject: >>Gudat, Shepherd
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date:  7 Oct 92 01:46:03 GMT

>>Henrik Gudat
 
I was confused at first by the event journaling mechanism. I think journaling
drivers are just supposed to stick there data in the record pointed to by the
parm, instead of reading/recording it, if they are playing back.
 
ANYWAY, upon asking about event journaling on GEnie, I was told by Matt (DTS)
that the journaling mechanism is broken. It might seem to work (the program
launcher RunQ uses it and it seems to work) but he insisted the mechanism is
broken.
 
>>Eric Shepherd
> Also, would it be politically correct to create an 8-bit system
> disk for distribution to 8-bit users who need them?
 
More than incorrect, that would be illegal.
 
 
Jay
 
Internet: jay.krell@cornell.edu
America Online: JayKrell
GEnie: J.Krell1

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: aberigan@nde.unl.edu (A. Berigan)
Subject: UUdecoder for GS wanted
Organization: Ord High School, Ord, NE
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:10:37 GMT

I have three files which contain MIDI data that I need to get to a Mac.
However, this system won't let me transfer binaries.  Kermit likes to
abort in the middle of a transfer, and sz isn't available (neither is
any form of compiler).  The modem is on the GS.  I don't have bsc to
encode them as BinSCII files, and I doubt I have decoders on the Mac LC
II which will be the destination.

I _can_ transfer textfiles via Kermit however.  Since the only text
encoder I have available is uuencode, I need something that can uudecode
on the GS end.  Then I can move it to an HFS volume and use it on the
Mac LC II.

-- 
aberigan@nde.unl.edu (Greg Berigan)
From: carndt@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chris Arndt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Micol BASIC??
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:46:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: zeus.1992Oct01.144601.152902
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

I received a flyer a while back about Micol BASIC. Would someone with
some experience with this language post some opinions on it?

Thanks

Chris 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: benson@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Paul BaJa Benson)
Subject: Re: scanf discussion ... help me :)
Organization: Vanderbilt Univ., Engineering (SERG), Nashvegas, TN
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 19:40:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.155152.3570@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens) writes:
~_Not_ a compiler bug. I agree on isspace(), but scanf was written entirely in
~ASM (as was the whole library). I have the source (Trust me. I know what I'm
~doing. *Stern look, shoots captain*).
 
 Hmmm, it appears that when it rains it pours.  I think it is a compiler
 bug.  I've reported the following bug to Mike on GEnie.  Try this quick
 code:
 {
 unsigned long ivar = 0xFFFF;

 printf("%ld\n", ivar+1);
 }

 Now, this code works when compiled without optimization (i.e. returns
 0x10000), but set optimize to -1 and it returns a 0.  This appears to be
 the same bug Dave is complaining about (or similar to it).  0xFFFF+1 works
 in either situation, a variable must contain the FFFF.  
-- 
  Paul 'BaJa' Benson
  Vanderbilt University - Space Electronics Research Group
  GEnie: P.Benson1     Net: benson@vuse.vanderbilt.edu
From: chris@ceco.ceco.com (Chris Icide)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Me And My IIc
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:12:41 GMT
Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co.

In article <1992Sep26.011910.14488@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dratzlaf@nyx.cs.du.edu (Daniel Ratzlaff) writes:
>>Yeah its a nice computer the only thing I don't like about it is you    
>>can't put a harddrive on it other than that its a great machine.
>
>Well, there were some hard drives made quite a while back for the //c.

text deleted....

>Also, I can't use my Unidisk 3.5 in the chain with it.
>
>I thought there were other drives made for //c...Wasn't there a Cider that
>worked with a //c?
>
Sequential Systems makes a series of hard drives for the //c.  They are
the ct-50c & ct-100c (52Meg & 120Meg) hard drives.  They use Quantum 
LPS-52 & LPS-120 mechanisms with a card developed by Chinook technologies
which converts the //c's smart port to the HD SCSI port.  They are not
cheap!  ;)  The advantage is that it does work with other external drives,
does not require any program drivers, and the mechanism can be used as a
SCSI drive if you upgrade to a different computer.  I remember seeing an
add for the drives back in the june or july A+/Incider issue through
Quality Computers.

I am in no way associated with any of the companies listed above.

					Chris


chris@bynps0.byr.ceco.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: kpopple@imp.sim.es.com (Ken Poppleton)
Subject: Re: Apple II DSP card
Reply-To: kpopple@imp.sim.es.com (Ken Poppleton)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:30:09 GMT

To All those interested in a DSP card,

There is a second development of a DSP card in the works.  This is not the
NSC/GS DSP card from Pete.  I have been slowly (very slow) working on acard for
the last year.  I had hoped to have it complete by now, but as these things go
I have not yet completed the project.  So do not give up, and keep me encouraged
by showing interest.

The current state of the project is that I have the second prototype working as a
standalone board, the first proto was tested connected to my AppleIIe.  What I 
need to do now is to complete the testing phase and perform the schematic capture
and PCB layout.  But that is where I have run into a snag.  I have not found a
good shematic capture and PCB layout package which runs on an AppleIIe (no hard
disk), or an IBM-PC (CGA graphics, 10M hard disk), or on a sun workstation which
is very inexpensive!  Anyone know of a program I could use?

I am currently attempting to use the shareware version of PADS on an IBM-PC
but this has problems with the 132 pin dsp package.

If you are interested in this board let me know.  I need the encouragement
to get it done.  (espically with school and work using my time!)  I would
espically like to know what your expectations are!  And use of a DSP board.
Note that this board is a generic DSP board using a small transition board
to interface to various types of computers, or as a standalone dsp controller
board!  This makes it easy to adapt to a specific bus or add features!

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ideas expressed or implied are mine and do not reflect those of my employer.
Ken Poppleton 
kpopple@imp.sim.es.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: paul.parkhurst@uttsbbs.uucp (Paul Parkhurst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: RE: VT100 EMULATION...
Date: 3 Oct 92 14:47:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: uttsbbs.1859.61.uupcb
Reply-To: paul.parkhurst@uttsbbs.uucp (Paul Parkhurst)
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591


   I just ordered a couple of technical manuals from DEC (ack) so you
can rest assured that the next version of ANSITerm will have both VT100
and VT52 support.  I've also just added Kermit, macros, disk utilities,
and more, so it should be fairly complete (minus an editor) with the
next version.
                                                                                       
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: u9050728@cs.uow.edu.au (Shane Kelvin Richards)
Subject: Joystick readings from ML
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:11:13 GMT


	I am writing a game for the GS, and have a question in reguard to
joystick reading. I have had a play around with the firmware routine (Pread),
the main problem with that is that depending on the position of the joystick
there seems to be a significant time difference as to when the routine 
returns, I know this is to do with the timing involved with working out the
paddle position. 
	What I am essentially after is a routine or way that will work
out the joystick readings and return, the routine will take essentially
a constant amount of time (I am not so worried if its worst case time),
just as long as its fairly constant.
	Is there, maybe another firmware routine which is better? or has
anyone got a better joystick reading routine????


-- 
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Shane Richards
u9050728@cs.uow.edu.au
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell)
Subject: misc
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date:  5 Oct 92 22:01:51 GMT

In the spirit of Amrit's post and since the book I read didn't cover the latest
developments: Could someone briefly explain templates in C++?
 
>>Greg DeLozier, mouse erasing screen
 
Delete the CloseView init. It is in the System:System.Setup folder of your boot
disk (*). EasyAccess is not to blame for these problems.
 
>>Have you ever heard IBM forever? I haven't.
 
I believe "Apple II Forever!" is a trademark of Apple. "IBM Forever!" has the
same look and feel and would infringe on Apple's rights. :)
 
 
>>Zoom modems
 I've had no problems with my 2400 bps modem; it's over a year old.
 
>>Ron Higgins
>>Is a way to name an icon something unrelated to
>>the filename of the application on disk?
 
>>ex. File on disk is called: /hard1/apps/util.system
>>    He'd like the icon to appear with a name of "Copy II Plus"
 
No, but one could rename the file Copy.II.Plus. You can also put it on an HFS
volume and name it "Copy II Plus" or "Copy II+" but you wouldn't be able to run
it.
 
 
jay.krell@cornell.edu
 
 
 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: cjs@ausom.oz.au (Cameron Silver)
Subject: Re: Express print spooler
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 11:56:07 GMT
Reply-To: cjs%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne

How does one go about getting (buying) a copy of Express?? .. Is there a demo
floating around, or is the whole thing incredibly simple?
-- 
Cameron Silver
Internet: cjs%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au

Try to have some fun. It's quicker if you run! :-)
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From: jmire@pro-cajun.cts.com (John Mire)
Subject: Spanish conversion kits
Organization: ProLine [pro-cajun], Shreveport, Louisiana (318)865-6579
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 11:40:24 CDT

This is a request for information since my local Apple dealer can't seem to
get any information after a 6 month waiting period.  I am interested in
PURCHASING some Spanish conversion kits for the Apple //e as mentioned in
the introductory screens in FrEdWriter  Version 4 (12/6/85) by Al Rogers.  
The company listed: Hands-On Training, 4021 Allen School Rd, Bonita, CA  
92002, doesn't reply to any written correspondence.  I would also like 
information on obtaining the Spainish version of FrEdWriter that was
mentioned in the second intro screen.

----
INET: jmire@pro-cajun.cts.com      GEnie & America-Online: jmire
UUCP: crash!pro-cajun!jmire        NIXON IN '92: He's tanned, rested and ready!
From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: system 6.01/6.1 Finder
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:21:09 PST
Organization: BBS

I remember the next release of Finder will have keyboard navigation.  Is this
like the Mac system 7 Finder?  If so, that will be really cool!  I love using
the keyboards.

Will we see the EtherTalk/6.01/6.1 by the end of the year?  I mean, is
everything going by the schedule??

I can't wait!

frank m. lin
fmlin@terapin.com
cyprus systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mmunson@animal.es.com (Mark Munson)
Subject: Re: Simple program
Reply-To: mmunson@animal.es.com (Mark Munson)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:10:02 GMT

Writing a screen dump program is easy if you know what you're doing.  It's
really hard if you don't.  Here's why:

The 80-column screen is really two 40 column screen that have been interlaced
together.  To make things worse, the text screen memory (like that of the
graphics) isn't layed out in a linear manner.  This means that you either
have to calculate the starting point of each screen line using a special
(and very ugly) formula, or you need to create a lookup table for this.
I'd recommend the latter.

You'll have to be in assembly for this program to work, since you'll be
flipping the Aux Bank read switch back and forth.  AppleSoft BASIC doesn't
like you doing this, and will crash if you try it from there.  But a
machine language routine (called by an & hook ???) would be OK

You need two nexted loops.  One to scan the screen rows ( 0 -> 23) and
one to scan the columns ( 0 - 39 ).  Once calculate the base address
using the row counter, you add in the column counter.  The result is
a memory pointer that can be used to read both the main and aux values.


[I'm assuming that aux is and odd column and main is even, but I 
can't remember right now.  It's been a while since I wrote 128K
programs for the II.  Well I'll just assume its aux/main order
for the sake of explanation.]

Switch the pointer to read from Aux memory and read the value using the
pointer that you just created.  Save the result.  Switch read operations
back to main memory.  Read the next character from main memory and save it.


You've now just read an odd and even column from the screen (both of
which have the same memory address, but each are in a different memory
bank).  Repeat this operation another 39 times to complete a full
80-column row.  Then repeat the whole process another 23 times to
read the entire 24 row screen.

Save off the total memory area that you've copied ($800 bytes) to
disk, or send it to the printer.


You'll need a good assembler for this operation (like ORCA/M, or Merlin).


I don't have my Apple books nearby, otherwise I'd just give you some
sample code to play with.  I'm sure that what you would really want
anyway... right? 

[MGM]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz)
Subject: AppleTalk vs. Direct Connect Printer
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:05:30 GMT

I've recently been thinking of getting an AppleTalk Card
for my IWII printer. (I will be getting a Mac soon and would
like to connect the printer to both my GS and the Mac).

So, more out of curiousity which is faster to use to print out
a document: a Direct connect IWII; or an AppleTalk IWII?

I'm going to use this set-up anyway. I am asking strictly out of
curiousity. 

I assume that the printer is the bottleneck and that both methods
are about even. Is this wrong?

Paul Schultz
schultp@wl.com

--
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Orca/C Function Call Disasters
Keywords: Orca C
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:31:18 GMT

No, that code isn't right... I was typing it from memory and blew it.  The
code in the program is structurally correct -- my memory just sucks! :)

- Eric S.

--
Eric Shepherd  |  Internet: uerics@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu  |  AOL: Sheppy
-------- ACM Member ----- Apple II Alliance Charter Member --------
Erroneous statements and inappropriate opinions stated herein are
caused by network glitches and are not attributable to the author.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: cmcurtin@bluemoon.rn.com (Matthew Curtin)
Subject: Re: Apple II DSP card
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 15:11:20 EDT

mock@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Kenrick Mock) writes:

> My confidential sources close to the developer (hehe, don't you hate
> it when people say that) inform me that the DSP card has basically
> been axed.  Too expensive to product at the expected cost, and Pete
> doesn't have enough time to put the thing together...so the plans and
> such are around, but no development is being pursued at this time.

Is there anything that we might be able to do, in terms of email support 
or whatever, that might convince the developer to continue work on the 
project?

> -- 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> GEnie : K.MOCK     			Net : mock@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu
> "Don't worry about the world ending today, it's already tomorrow in
>  Australia..."  					      - CMS


 __________________________________________________________________________
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|     Procyon GNOs IIGSes!      !              Apple II Forever!           |
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From: foegelle@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael Foegelle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Sciibin
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:13:26 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

Is there a copy of the source code for sciibin (or binscii for that matter)
available anywhere?  I have sciibin on my unix account here, but now that
I finally have a good telnet program working from my pc here at work, I'd
like to be able to make a version of sciibin that would work on the I*M 
(horror of horrors!) so that I can FTP to the pc, undo the binscii packaging,
then modem the files over to the GS.  That would save a significant amount of
time by not having to transfer text files to the GS, and by not having to FTP
first to the unix machine, un-binscii the files, THEN FTP them to the pc, and
finally modem them to the GS!

Thanks for any help you can give.

Michael Foegelle

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     ____________    |     You want it    |   foegelle@utaphy.ph.utexas.edu
                     |                    |   GEnie:   M.FOEGELLE2
    University of    |        WHEN?       |   Wunderland BBS  (512) 472-0544
   Texas at Austin   |                    |   14.4kbaud, v.32/bis:  Sysop
From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Sound files...
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:44:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: well.BvnqHv.1oC
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link


To: Hal Bouma
Re: Sampling Rates

I didn't actually say that guessing the sampling rate was difficult (did
I?). If I did, what I meant to say is that it is inconvenient.

Given the choice of 2 methods to onvert sounds to rSounds...one that
supplied the correct rate, and one that made you guess what it was...which
one would you use?

I didn't mean to imply that rSounder didn't work. I works just fine, and
since it is much more widely available, I'm sure most people will use it to
convert sounds to rSound format. But, for me, since I already own
HyperCardGS and I already own SoundConvert, I'm going to continue using the
method that doesn't make me guess what the sampling rate is.

Joe Kohn
From: joe_luzzi@QMBRIDGE.CALSTATE.EDU ("Joe Luzzi")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: II+ ROM
Date: 3 Oct 92 00:58:31 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


                                                               Time: 4:39
PM
                                                               Date:
10/2/92
Subject:  II+ ROM



There is a socket on my friend's II+ mother board labeled "ROM SPCL" and
the chip number is 2716.  Can anyone tell me what this chip does?

Thanks.

------------------------------
Joe M. Luzzi

CSU Fullerton
Joe@fulleton.edu
From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Various questions & answers
Date: 26 Sep 92 17:15:33 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link


Ryan Layton says "Joe Kohn, I enjoy your column in incider/A+".

To which I respond...thank you for the feedback. It's not often that net
folks offer me thanks. I appreciate it.

Some upcoming articles in inCider/A+, written by me, include...

In the November issue, I have a feature length article on Apple II "support"
and where to get it. It starts off with "It's 1992; do you know where your
Apple II dealer is?". Also in that issue will be Grapvine #2, but I can't
remember anything about it now. And, my Shareware Solutions column will be
about IIe/IIc card games.

In the December issue, Grapevine #3 is primarily about using AppleWorks
based off-line message handlers on CIS and GEnie. Shareware Solutions is
about IIGS Music programs.

In January, I have another feature length article that's actually the third
in a series of customizing the GS Desktop. This one is alled "Way Cool
System 6". As far as the Shareware column for january, it's not due for a
few more weeks, and I haven;t thought about it yet. I'm open for
suggestions.

Joe Kohn
From: marc@cxr_rs6000.med.ge.com (Marc Wolfgram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: scanf discussion ... help me :)
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:18:03 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

The long rollover bug (long $ffff+1) first appeared on an long inc operation,
and was attributed to the first optimize option (bit 1 - don't remember what
the flag is - don't have the book here :) being set... therefore try any
optimize value that's even... 2, 4, 6 ... -2 and see if this problem persists.

Marc
From: ad017@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Raymond Francel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Looking for an Apple IIE Drive
Date: 1 Oct 1992 04:13:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


I am looking for an external drive for an Apple IIE.  If you have
one you'd like to sell, I'd appreciate it.  I need a 5.25 drive.
                                         Ray
-- 
"If you suck my soul, I will lick your funky emotions!"
From: paul.parkhurst@uttsbbs.uucp (Paul Parkhurst) 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: RE: PPTOPORT QUESTION
Date: 28 Sep 92 05:06:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: paul.parkhurst@uttsbbs.uucp (Paul Parkhurst) 

-> I think you need a toolparms(?) pragma too.  This is necessary if you
-> the routine is going to be called by a tool (such as a window update
-> routine). I was not sure if your routine worked in this manner.
-> --
-> Paul 'BaJa' Benson Vanderbilt University - Space Electronics Research
-> Group GEnie: P.Benson1     Net: benson@vuse.vanderbilt.edu

   You only need the toolparms pragma when you're making a function that
a toolbox routine calls and returns something on the stack.  An example
of this is when you define your own menus and when you specify a filter
routine for SFGetFile.  For things like window draw procedures that just
do what they're supposed to do and don't have to communicate anything
back to the Window manager, you just need to specify the databank 1
pragma so it forces the data bank of the ~GLOBALS area.
                                                          
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