HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: Re: Campus bar peeve
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:03:11 GMT

<In article <28191@castle.ed.ac.uk> jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson) writes:

<   First, since various threats of legal action have been floating around,
<   let me make it perfectly clear that this posting is most definitely not
<   about the KB Union Bar, nope, certainly not, so sirree bob.

ObPeeve: drunken denizens of the SemiUnitedKingdom crying in
	 their beer while *on* *campus*....luxury, that's what
	 it is. We would *love* to be able to buy a beer on campus...

	*BUT*

ObMEGAPeeve: There never has been and probably never will be
	a bar on any campus in the state of New Mexico, as
	such would be illegal under state law....and that
	there law ain't gonna change so long as the Bible
	Belt ends in Eastern New Mexico.

ObMicroAntiPeeve: While there are 3 counties in New Mexico where
	sale of alcoholic beverages is illegal, I'm not residing
	in one.
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Subject: Re: Is it Naivete, Stupidity or Homophobia? (Re: Recent Peeve
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 23:36:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.180136.24910@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu
(Bill Berbenich) writes:
>What a worthless word.  I cringe every time someone uses it.  It is
>essentially meaningless because nothing even close to the apparent
>conventional usage of the word can be derived from its liguistic
>parts.

Hmmm, doesn't bother me.  No, it's not the most accurate word in the
world but who cares?  BTW, none of this is meant as flame or flame
fodder.

>"Fear of the same."  Homophobe.
>
>I know plenty of people who dislike homosexuals, but none who fear
>them - as a group, naturally.

On the contrary, fear and discomfort dealing with gays does seem to
have a large component of fear in it.  Young bucks who worry that
they may really be gay gang up bravely to beat up lone (or smaller numbers
of) gay men.  Often, the victim survives; sometimes he does not.  

>That's my peeve.  Stupid, worthless, PC words used to class a certain
>group of people who express a dissenting belief or opinion.

Oh oh, the dreaded PC label rears its ugly head.  Well my man, there
are all kinds of Political Correctness.  If I post a politically
unpopular opinion in talk.politics.guns, even if it doesn't favor
additional controls but only maintaining the status quo, I get toasted.
Even a little thing like calling a Colt .45 semi-auto an "automatic"
could get me in trouble, despite the fact that an NRA safety manual I
have from 20-30 years ago uses that term.  That's PC for ya.

Over in ca.politics, a loonie has been haranguing gays for over a year
now, cross-posting articles from soc.motss to prove that gays are
depraved, damning any who refuse to condemn NAMBLA.  That's PC.

Now, I don't really worry about whether I'm using this year's term for
a minority, agonize over whether Blacks are Blacks this year or Afro-
Americans.  But I do take people to task for assuming that all Blacks
are criminals, Asians can't drive, gays are out to recruit our youth.
You and I don't need to worry about gay-bashers, so it's a theoretical
issue to us; for some friends of mine, it's a mite more serious than that:
a friend back in Buffalo, who'd lose his job if he came out; friends out
here in San Francisco who've been bashed...

>Homophobe
>is the penultimate example of that - I'm leaving the ultimate slot
>open yet because I know how dogmatic and tight-assed the kind of
>people who come up with stupid words like that can be.  The word
>"humourless" springs to mind.

Humorless?  I made a comment about gays redecorating Peevetown , which
Nev didn't start raving about; instead, he made a funny reply, conforming
to the style of this group.  I once told a friend who I know to be gay
that the problem with this area was that there were too many of them here;
he didn't get pissed, he just laughed and made a comment about obnoxious
straights.  But people who want to restrict gays' ability to get jobs or
housing, or who really pick on gays, THEM I have a problem with.

    don
From: banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Debugging the group
Date: 23 Nov 92 01:50:59 GMT
Organization: Sun, Moon, and Stars
NNTP-Posting-Host: abingdon

alrobins@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Amanda Robinson) writes:
>My vote: he stays.  Whether you consider him a genius or a nut, he has the
>right to express his opinion.  If you don't like it, edit your "Kill" file
>or just junk his articles as they come in.

Who the fuck are you?  I thought that any educational institution in
Oakland had been torched long ago.

And it must not be very good if you think an in-group vote was going
to have any determination on whether old what-his-face stayed or
not.

The fact of the matter is that a lot of people here (based on what
they've said) don't like kill files.  I include myself in that
category.  Why passively ignore them when you can actively drive them
out?  Really.  Where's the fun?

>Okay, so it's not one line.  

Tsk, tsk.  And the iron maiden is out for cleaning, to boot.  I
guess you'll have to be punished by returning to lurking.  Don't
expect a pity party on your behalf.

>SOMEONE'S got to stand up for him.

Since you're already standing, why don't you leave?

drew
banta@abingdon.sun.com
--
".....what I was encouraging women to do is to
get a life, not necessarily a career. I think
a career is a poor substitute for a life."
                                               -- Germaine Greer
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From: cindy@solan.unit.no (Cindy Kandolf)
Subject: Re: I see London, I see France (Re: the Devil's Day
Organization: /faust/steinar/.organization
	<17924@autodesk.COM> <lg8fpcINN1qg@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>
	<mhart.721754708@blackjack> <lgfk1dINN5to@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>
	<1992Nov20.092736.27254@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:34:08 GMT

Alex Vrchoticky writes:
>it makes me wonder how many of the people who wear that stuff ever
>read what it says.

The baby daughter of a friend of mine has somehow ended up with a 
pair of sleepers that says "My computer goes banana [sic] if it doesn't get
ice cream" on the front of it.

Does that answer your question?

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Social Responsibility
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:51:29 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper

donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:
] In article <BxvAzD.431@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin)
] writes:
] >I am about to do what I abhor the most... Post email. You see, I feel I 
] >should reply to this in email, but jennie won't let me. If I mail back,
] >I will be reported to my sysadmin for harassing her (?!?!?!) and will 
] >undergo supreme torture and a violent yet slow death.
] 
] In any case, if your need for attention is THIS desperate, please take it
] to alt.whine.LISTEN.TO.ME.OR.ILL.HOLD.MY.BREATH because frankly, we're
] getting sick of you here.


come on now folks, FriarFranklin was down in talk.abortion
for a while, and did not make any friends there, and has
some problems making friends in any of the groups he has
posted to so far.

Perhaps we should work out some sort of method of
accepting him for WHat_ever_It_IS, so that he does
not wander off uselessly around the net again.

Think of it as a 'social responsibility' thing to take
care of the cretinous and useless persons who would 
otherwise be annoying the net....

ciao
drieux

ps: Or would you wish to be held morally responsible
for forcing FriarFranklin to start posting moral
proprieties to rec.pets.bondage.moral.purity?????



-- 
Modern Day Problems:
Little Miss Muffett, sat on a ToughtIt,
Eating her Kurds and Weighs, Along came a Spider,
and she drove off with the Neat Guy with a HOT CAR!
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From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Subject: Re: Mis-used of turn signals & other stuff
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 14:23:11 GMT

troyer@mitre.org (Tom Royer) writes:

] Peeve:  Drivers who think turn signals mean "I am turning"
] as opposed to "I intend to turn."  Once they get started,
] I can see they're turning.

Back before the concept of "mantra" was popular, I
had a driving instructor in highschool who had a
"mantra" - it's one of the two things I remember 
from the class(*).  His mantra was:
"Signal your *intentions*, not your *actions*"

] Peeve:  Left turning drivers (with or without signals) who
] think they have the right of way over drivers going straight.
] Especially prevelant in New Hampshire.

Happens here in CA also.  Was walking across the
crosswalk on the way home a couple of nights ago,
with the green "walk" symbol, and a guy who was
making a left turn onto the street I was crossing
from behind me SUDDENLY decides to beat the traffic
we were both facing - thus not ONLY almost running
me down, but missing getting hit by the cross-traffic
by inches.

Major peeves would have abounded because given the
speed and trajectory of the two vehicles, they BOTH
would have wound up hitting me in the crosswalk.

!peeve - I saw it in time to jump back and avoid
getting hit - and the guy squeaked by the cross-traffic.

Peeve:  He's still alive and driving - and possibly
adding to the BDID gene-pool.

Diana
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From: jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl)
Subject: Re: Now You Guys Be NICE!
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 12:07:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.222806.18313@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich) writes:

>
>ObSlut:  Marilyn Monroe  ("But we don't KNOW she slept with the Kennedies!")

Even Marilyn Monroe was a man
Though this tends to get overlooked by
Our mother-fixated, overworked, sexist media...

   - From the song "Uncorrected Pesonality Traits" by Robyn Hitchcock

Jenny "I'm not saying one way or t'other" Gutbezahl
-- 
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jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu is Jenny Gutbezahl @ Univ. of Mass, Amherst
****************************************************************************
These opinions are all mine.  Flame all you want, I'll make more
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From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Re: Veteran's Day
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 15:39:35 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <Bxo3wv.Hxz@cs.dal.ca> franklin@thans.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
>In article <1e0mc2INN6k4@agate.berkeley.edu> curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin) writes:
>
>>Veteran's Day is when they trot out a lot of withered geeks in
>>wheelchairs whose only distinction is that they ran fast enough
>>at the Battle of the Bulge or Inchon or Khe Sanh to avoid getting
>>the butchering they so richly deserved.
>
>Peeve: Cowards who feel the need to trivialize and joke about the heroes of
>the past, when they dont' even have the balls to go to the bathroom by
>themselves yet. 

Peeve: Morons who are apparantly unable to understand concepts
like sarcasm, black humour, cynicism, or humorous outrage.

Anyone actually paying attention to the post would have noticed
that it was really an indictment of the kind of assholes who can
cry crocodile tears onto a war memorial...Like the presidents
who send them off to die, whilst staying safely home behind
their (temporarily) living shield.

Quit being an ass.

Regards, Charles
-- 
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
From: smith@ug.cs.dal.ca (Sean Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Halfwits.
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:43:00 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

In article <1992Nov17.053345.926@bbxrbk> russ@bbxrbk (Russ Kepler) writes:
>In article <Bxu2w2.Ct9@cs.dal.ca> smith@ug.cs.dal.ca (Sean Smith) writes:
>>In article <ATAYLOR.92Nov16093224@gauss.nmsu.edu> ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) writes:
>>>	No, you induce profound boredom.
>>
>>	I'm being trained to - I'm a law student.
>
>Damnit - you let one in and there goes the neighborhood.  Any more of
>these little protolawyers hanging around?

	Hey - we're breeding like rabbits.  However, unlike Ted Frank, I live
in Canada.  Thank God.

	Besides, like I keep telling people, lawyers are like a bad lunch - 
they keep coming back...

	Sean


-- 
Sean Smith - Dalhousie University  "I'm not paid to think - that's management." 
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada                    Don Cherry for Prime Minister in
01SSMITH@AC.DAL.CA or smith@ug.cs.dal.ca	'93 in Canada!
Disclaimer:  These ideas are mine...ALL MINE!!  'Cause noone else'd want 'em.
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From: dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Johnny Carson)
Subject: The Best of Alt.Peeves
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:29:08 GMT
Organization: National Broadcasting Company


In article <BxqpBH.3EA@news.iastate.edu> z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Agro-Barbarian) writes:

>I'm going to start posting some of the better peeves from my
>archives.  Look for them under the subject line "Aged Ambrosia."

Maybe we could get Jay Leno to post some on Monday evenings.

Peeve: all of my precious quotes and articles from alt.peeves over the
last year and a half were archived in an arcane format readable only by
coal-burning devices with 3-inch copper tubing.

-Dave

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From: dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Shiva Pariah)
Subject: Re: The University of California at Berkeley
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:18:37 GMT
Organization: Heulandite Packing, Ltd.

-Peeve is that it messes everything up. Especially bad as the topic is often 
-emotions and passions. So after banging my head two or three times the words
-started finding entrance into that reductionist mental filter they call the 
-linearizer (fuck is fuck or background noise). It's an understanding problem. 
-If you call too much things one word it looses all meaning. Or you turn crazy 
-because you put too much and/or wrong meanings into it. There are just so many 
-things left after that filter. And it takes the fog out.

Autodrieux, right?  Hm.  Needs work.

-Dave
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From: rickg@netcom.com (Rick Gordon)
Subject: Re: Kibo's .signature
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: Netcom - SF Bay, Cal Northifornia
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:48:08 GMT

In article <Bxy8xC.Hp6@world.std.com> James "Kibo" Parry writes:

>You owe me another lunch, now.  How's the paper?  Need more tape?  I can
>read you my acceptance speeches...

Peeve: The Spokesman For Earth running shamelessly after the lesser Civil
Service position of President of the US.

>						-- K.

-- 
Rick Gordon      | "She Broke My Heart So I Busted Her Jaw" 
rickg@netcom.com |   --- One of those country songs you never hear anymore
From: pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Is it Naivete, Stupidity or Homophobia? (Re: Recent Peeve
Date: 21 Nov 92 15:05:56 GMT
Reply-To: pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley)
Organization: Do they make a washing powder called Caliban Automatic?

Quoting booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) in article <17969@autodesk.COM>:
>Peeve: Homophobes.

Peeve:  Homophones.  How the hell are you supposed to tell what
someone's saying when all the words sound the same?

_____                                __  
\\ // Paul Crowley pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk /o \/
 \X/  "I'm the boy without a sole"  \__/\
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: lp@well.sf.ca.us (Lily Pond)
Subject: Re: Mis-used of turn signals & other stuff
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:06:12 GMT


>>
Peeve:  Drivers who think turn signals mean "I am turning"
as opposed to "I intend to turn."  Once they get started,
I can see they're turning.

At least the people around you *use* their turn signals. Around Berkeley,
turn signals are going the way of - oh well - everything I can think of is
coming back in so I can't think of an example . . .

But WHY, I ask you????WHAT is so difficult about turning on a TURN SIGNAL?

Is it, like, being afraid of committment? (Gee, I'd like to let you know
what I'm going to do next - but will that leave me the freedom to change my
mind?)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: charless@sco.COM (Charlie Stross)
Subject: Re: Burn baby burn!
Organization: SCO Technical Waffle and Blurb Department
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:29:04 GMT


In article <1992Nov23.030440.6508@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich) writes:
>In <28514@castle.ed.ac.uk> fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes) writes:
>
>>Which is to say, me, Tony, et al.
>
>What about Jeremy?
>
>>Sheesh. I demand a Republic.
>
>Well, sheee-yit!  Just hop the next boat westward!  I'd say we have a serious
>FofP deficit here in the yoowess.

I dunno about FoFP, but _I'm_ hopping the next boat westward.
I've had enough of this bloody weather. Not to mention the
politics, the attitude, the economy, and just about everything
else. 

As if that's not enough it's 3:25 in the afternoon, it's 
getting dark already, it will probably rain on me on the way 
home, and I'm trying to debug self-modifying code. What am
I _doing_ to myself? 

>>> Charlie (in need of some serious sunshine) Stross

-- 
Charlie Stross aka charless@scol.sco.com ..... UNIX oriented text mangler
WARNING: The opinions voiced in the preceding electronic document are the
product of a warped mind. Take two before meals.
From: curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: A Topically Relevant Quote
Date: 18 Nov 1992 03:12:48 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley CS Dept.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: mamba.cs.berkeley.edu

"We do not agree that this pit must be closed, and we will strike
to prevent it."

	-A Spanish mineworker, quoted in today's NYT.

c
scab par excellence
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From: bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich)
Subject: Re: Now You Guys Be NICE!
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 22:28:06 GMT

In <By1C97.EAy@nic.umass.edu> jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl) writes:

>This whole Male/Female thing really sucks lighter fluid, let me tell ya.

Agreed.

ObSlut:  Marilyn Monroe  ("But we don't KNOW she slept with the Kennedies!")
--
No, you do not know me.
Yes, I KNOW I look like someone you know.  - Bill Berbenich, net.hedonist
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Space Age Outerwear and a challenge
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:23:25 GMT
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Nov15.150913.8905@ac.dal.ca> 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:
>The advisors didn't contect you because they, like we, would rather bungee
>jump into a pool of acid than speak to you, Ted. Take the hint.

For someone who doesn't want to speak to me, my posts have an awfully good
response rate from you confusing the concept of "getting the last word in"
with winning an argument.  And with sending 25K of plagiarized tired lawyer
jokes to my mailbox as wit.

At least you managed to hold your illiterate spelling mistakes down
to one this post.  Now, go demonstrate your utility curve and bungee jump
into a pool of acid.  Don't bother to attach the bungee cord into anything
before you leap.  Make sure you're wearing a sodium-coated jacket.
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
Xref: sparky alt.peeves:17336 alt.tasteless:12708
From: dre@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (I wanted to be a farmer when I grew up)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.tasteless
Subject: Re: The University of California at Berkeley
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:53:25 GMT
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: The San Jose Home for Perverted Hackers

jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson) writes:

>BTW, I gather that one of the Dalhousie Dimbulbs has been whining at my
>expense. An unusual sensation. Not so much like being savaged by a sheep,
>more like being gummed by a goldfish.

Ever put your finger in a fishpond that has fairly large koi in it?

-- 
"If I had killed her when I had first thought about getting divorced,
 I would have been out of jail by now."
	-- A newly-divorced guy I met at a block party
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: yarvin@cs.yale.edu (Norman Yarvin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Halfwits.
Date: 20 Nov 1992 14:07:37 -0500
Organization: Yale Computer Science Department
NNTP-Posting-Host: cathy.na.cs.yale.edu

geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:
>
>You can't use air-to-ground missiles against seaborne targets.  The Weapons
>Police would be on you in a flash.

The captain of that Turkish destroyer which was recently in the news perhaps
thought the same thing about surface-to-air missiles: that they could not be
used against ships.

He's dead now.

But on second thought, the Weapons Police are indeed investigating.  So
perhaps there will be justice in the world.


ObWeapon: 42000lb General Purpose Bomb

--
Norman Yarvin						yarvin@cs.yale.edu
 "Like all other men, of course, I pant for power."  H. L. Mencken
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From: larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way)
Subject: Re: Take up a hobby, instead
Organization: New Mexico State University, MetaPhysical Science Laboratory
	<17958@autodesk.COM> <1992Nov20.010222.20405@igor.tamri.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:34:20 GMT

Right on, Don.

I hardly ever got any until I turned Evil and stopped giving a damn what 
women (or anyone else) thought about me. Then I started getting "some"
(Elaine's phrase), but only whenever I acted like I didn't really want any. 

Fact: a horny single male stands out like a sore thumb to all females and 
they'll all avoid him like the plague. [My theory is that] females prefer 
to be seduced, which no male in this "condition" can possibly fathom.

After I got married, the women decided they *really* wanted to tempt
and tease me. The same ones who wouldn't touch me with a ten foot pole
when I was single suddenly found me downright irresistable. No longer 
practicing celibacy, I was able to resist. But the more I resisted them, 
the more they admired my resistance, and the harder they tried to tempt me.

Eventually I won out, by just getting TOO OLD for them. (They think I'm 
harmless now. Although periodically a new one comes around and tries 
to bother me again because I am *still* darned Evil. And women like that 
for some reason.)

Peeve: Women. What *do* they really want?

 (..)
  ~~
L.
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