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From: Josef Grosch  <grosch@karlsruhe.gmd.de>
Subject: Another port of the GMD cocktail to MS-DOS
Reply-To: Josef Grosch  <grosch@karlsruhe.gmd.de>
Organization: GMD Forschungsstelle Karlsruhe
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:48:01 GMT
Keywords: tools, MSDOS, FTP, 386

Another port of the GMD Toolbox for Compiler Construction - also known as
Cocktail (Compiler-Compiler-Toolbox Karlsruhe) - to PCs under MS-DOS is
now available via anonymous ftp.

Thanks to Willem Jan Withagen who made available his port a week ago.

We used DJ Delorie's port of GCC to MS-DOS. His DOS extender (called go32)
is required to run the programs. We made more or less similar changes to
the sources as Willem Jan, therefore the sources should compile and run on
OS/2 as well, although we did not check this. The processor must be
a 386 or up.

File server for the MS-DOS version:

ftp.karlsruhe.gmd.de = 192.76.241.33

/pub/cocktail/dos		source directory
/pub/cocktail/dos/lib.zip	binaries
/pub/cocktail/dos/bin.zip	batch scripts for binaries
/pub/cocktail/doc.me.tar.Z	documentation in troff format
/pub/cocktail/doc.ps.tar.Z	documentation in postscript format
/pub/cocktail/doc.doc.tar.Z	documentation in ascii format

File servers for the UNIX version:

host                     number        directory

ftp.karlsruhe.gmd.de     192.76.241.33 /pub/cocktail
ftp.gmd.de               129.26.8.90   /gmd/cocktail
iraun1.ira.uka.de        129.13.10.90  /pub/programming/cocktail
ftp.rus.uni-stuttgart.de 129.69.1.12   /soft/unix/programming/compilerbau
ftp.th-darmstadt.de      130.83.55.75
		  /pub/programming/languages/compiler-compiler/cocktail
ftp.eb.ele.tue.nl                      /pub/src/cocktail
src.doc.ic.ac.uk         146.169.2.1   /languages/tools/gmd
gatekeeper.dec.com                     /.3/plan/gmd


     Josef Grosch
     GMD Forschungsstelle an der Universitaet Karlsruhe
     Vincenz-Priesznitz-Str. 1
     D-7500 Karlsruhe
     Germany

     Tel: +721-6622-26
     Fax: +721-6622-968
     E-Mail: grosch@karlsruhe.gmd.de
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From: preston@helena.cs.rice.edu (Preston Briggs)
Subject: Re: EBNF notation for "one or more"?
Reply-To: preston@helena.cs.rice.edu (Preston Briggs)
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 17:53:33 GMT
Keywords: syntax

craigh@cserver.plexus.com (Craig Heilman) writes:
>I know that EBNF notation for "0 or more x" is {x} but what is the
>notation for "1 or more"?

Typically, you just write

	x { x }

Preston Briggs
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From: dwatola@amtsun.jpl.nasa.gov (David A. Watola)
Newsgroups: comp.compilers
Subject: Problems with gmd compiler tool 'rex'
Keywords: tools, question
Date: 4 Oct 92 23:27:51 GMT
Reply-To: dwatola@amtsun.jpl.nasa.gov (David A. Watola)
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Are there known problems with the latest version of rex in the gmd compiler
toolkit ('cocktail')?

Building and installing the toolkit went smoothly, but doing 'make test'
fails after rex spews out a lot of error/warning messages.

dave watola
dwatola@bvd.jpl.nasa.gov
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From: tmb@arolla.idiap.ch (Thomas M. Breuel)
Subject: Re: Syntax of Comments (was: language design tradeoffs)
Reply-To: tmb@arolla.idiap.ch (Thomas M. Breuel)
Organization: IDIAP (Institut Dalle Molle d'Intelligence Artificielle Perceptive)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 00:13:15 GMT
Keywords: design, comment

de19@umail.umd.edu (Dana S Emery) writes:

   I'm surprised no one has suggested coloration or styleing to reflect
   semantics.

It's been done. "vgrind" prints C programs that way, and Symbolics'
ZWEI editor edits Lisp files using different fonts for comments,
definitions, etc.
					Thomas.
[There are plenty of programs that highlight keywords and the like.  An
article in the CACM last year, excerpted from a larger book, points out that
highlighting the keywords is probably the worst possible way to format a
program, since the keywords are the noise.  You want to see the variables,
control structure, data structure definitions, etc.  But printing the keywords
in bold is an ancient tradition, at least back to Algol 60. -John]
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From: "V.C. SREEDHAR" <sreedhar@flo.cs.mcgill.ca>
Subject: Monotone Dataflow problems....
Reply-To: "V.C. SREEDHAR" <sreedhar@flo.cs.mcgill.ca>
Organization: Compilers Central
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 11:24:58 GMT
Keywords: optimize, question

Can someone expereinced in building various optimization phases give me
pointers to all the optimization problems that are very important for
generating good code (for scalar, superscalar, and parallel machines)? Can
you please classify them as forward, backward, and/or bi-directional
problem?

I know sometimes a scalar optimization can hinder parallel optimization (I
recently read an excellent report by Wolfe on this topic).  Recently
PLDI'92 proceeding has an interesting paper on solving flow analysis
problems for large programs. I am interested in knowing different problems
that are very important. Swartz (?) and Cocke book and Dragon book are a
good reference for many of the analysis. I feel these two books are not
the best ref. for recent results based on SSA-form and Sparse Eval. Graph
methods. Please also cite a good reference for solving the problem.

Also can someone give me reference for dataflow/optimization performed on
explicit parallel programs? Can we directly use traditional methods into
the parallel world.

(I will post the summary)

Thanks a lot

Sreedhar
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From: rjohnson@cs.cornell.edu (Richard C. Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.compilers
Subject: Re:  Looking for a data dependence generator
Keywords: parallel, optimize, vector
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:08:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: comp.92-09-200
Reply-To: rjohnson@cs.cornell.edu (Richard C. Johnson)
Organization: Compilers Central

Two sources of data dependence tests you should consider are (1) the
Tiny Tool by Michael Wolfe, and (2) the Omega test by William Pugh.

Tiny is described in
	The Tiny Loop Restructuring Research Tool
	Michael Wolfe
	1991 Int. Conf. on Parallel Processing

From the Tiny tool README file (an old version)
---
30 April 1990
Tiny is a tiny research implementation of an interactive program
restructuring tool.  Tiny computes data dependence relations
and interactively performs many restructuring transformations, such
as loop interchanging, distribution, skewing, ... .
The source may be grabbed by anonymous ftp through the Internet
at address:
        cse.ogi.edu
or      129.95.40.2

as tiny/tiny.tar.

electronic mail:        mwolfe@cse.ogi.edu
---	

Also look at Pugh's Omega test, available via ftp from ftp.cs.umd.edu,
in directory pub/omega.  One implementation included there is for Omega
integrated into Wolfe's Tiny program.  Bill's address is pugh@cs.umd.edu.
A recent paper on the Omega test is:
	Eliminating False Data Dependences using the Omega Test
	William Pugh and David Wonnacott
	SIGPLAN'92 PLDI
	pp 140-151

---
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rjohnson@cs.cornell.edu
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From: larry@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Larry Maturo)
Subject: Re: Compiler Libraries and/or built-in routines
Reply-To: larry@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Larry Maturo)
Organization: Applied Research Labs, The University of Texas at Austin
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:36:08 GMT
Keywords: library, design

I probably have a 6 or 8 compiler books and none of them address the
issues of libraries to any great degree.  One implements Pascal library
routines by calling the C library routines in the C compiler he uses to
write the Pascal compiler and this is the most complete handling of this
subject I've seen.  Is there a particular reference book compiler writers
use for this?  Are there any standards?

When I call the Sin routine in one compiler how close will the answer be
to that of calling the Sin routine with the same argument in another
compiler.  How does one fake floating point when the target processor has
no floating point unit?  I'm starting to see many compilers that ignore
the issue and don't handle this case at all.  Is faking it a black art
that's not widely known or is it difficult to allow for both software and
hardware floating point at the same time?  Is there an anonymous ftpable
compiler source available that illustrates these sort of things?

| Larry Maturo, Tactical Simulation Division, Applied Research Laboratories
| University of Texas at Austin, P.O. Box 8029, Austin, Texas 78713-8029
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From: storm@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER)
Newsgroups: comp.compilers
Subject: Register Files
Keywords: registers
Date: 5 Oct 92 02:30:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: comp.92-10-013
Reply-To: storm@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER)
Organization: Compilers Central

I recently read an article on the Design and Implementation of the new DEC
Alpha Chip (to be renamed something like VPX so that people think it's at
least RELATED to the VAX ;-)) and there was a comment that caughy my eye.

Apparantly, one of the big decisions was whether or not it would be a good
idea to split the register file up into two -- one for integer and one for
floating point registers.

They only decided to do this AFTER they got the okay from the Compiler
writers.

Now, the quesiton is: What does this matter to the compiler writer, and
how can s/he take advantage of it.  I don't see how it would affect
instruction ordering for pipelines, etc....

Any ideas???

Toodlepip!
marc 'em.
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From: de19@umail.umd.edu (Dana S Emery)
Newsgroups: comp.compilers
Subject: Re: Syntax of Comments (was: language design tradeoffs)
Keywords: design, comment
Date: 4 Oct 92 10:25:00 GMT
Reply-To: de19@umail.umd.edu (Dana S Emery)
Followup-To: comp.compilers,comp.human-factors
Organization: Compilers Central

I'm surprised no one has suggested coloration or styleing to reflect
semantics.

It would be simple enough for a pretty printer to use
font/italics/color/background shadeing for comments, and that would
delineate commented out code in an emphatic way.  Of course, one has to
allow the programmer to spec the styling.  With a bit of cleverness, it
should even be possible to have the comment markers be invisible, which
should dramatically decrease the noise factor.

Of course, all that begs for a GUI.
--
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[The thought of zillions of programmers designing listing styles is to me
horrifying.  They'll open new horizons in ugliness.  A few standard styles
designed by people who knew what they were doing might be OK. -John]
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From: fmaster@ravel.udel.edu (Fred A Masterson)
Subject: baby ccomputer text
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:14:35 GMT


I'm looking for a simple, relatively non-technical introduction to
computers for non-cis students.  It would be used to supplement an
applications oriented course covering word processing, spreadsheets,
data bases, statistics packages, and elementary programming.  My
primary motivation is to give the students a picture of how computers
actually work.  For example, I recall that the BBC put out a little
book in conjunction with a TV series on computers, but I don't remember
the title or authors.
G: Command not found.

If you know of a book or books of this sort, I would be most
appreciative of your emailing me the title(s) and author(s).  Thank you
very much.

     Fred Masterson
     University of Delaware
     fmaster@ravel.udel.edu
From: haverkam@uni-duesseldorf.de (Wilhelm Haverkamp)
Newsgroups: comp.edu
Subject: Anybody listening in Bellefonte, Pennsylvania?
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:06:59 GMT
Organization: Universitaetsrechenzentrum, Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Duesseldorf
NNTP-Posting-Host: haverkamp.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de

I am trying to get an e-mail address
of Bellefonte High-School, especially
of Mr. John L. Roberts who is working there
as a teacher. Who knows him?
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Wilhelm
From: rpiercy@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Rogers Piercy)
Newsgroups: comp.edu
Subject: physicians & computers
Keywords: medicine/diagnosis/physicians/decision making
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:59:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Sep30.165918.22807
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

Physicians & Computers (journal mailed to 90,000 physicians at no charge.) is
soliciting manuscripts that will describe changes brought about by the direct
use of computers in the practice of medicine during the decade of the 1990's.
Papers addressing various computer application in research, imaging and other
contributions which advance or illuminates medical science with the direct use
of computers are encouraged.  Physician authored materials preferred. 
Examples include: 
. Computerized Diagnosis--(various medical disciplines)
. Decision Making
. Physican Authored Medical Software Handheld Computers--Patient
  History/Charting
. Medical Practice Networking 			
. Notebook Computers in Clinical Research
. Computerized Reimbursement
. Developming Trends in Clinical Computing
. Computerized Medical Records
. Pen Computing/Physician Uses 

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Rogers H. Piercy   /\/\/\/\/\/\    rpiercy@casbah.acns.nwu.edu  
"Physicians & Computers"                 Phone  (708) 869-0036             
2333 Waukegan Road, Bannockburn, IL 60015   Fax (708) 869-0713 
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From: cgodfrey@ra.cs.umb.edu (Colin Godfrey)
Newsgroups: comp.edu
Subject: user interface courses
Summary: info sought
Keywords: user interfaces, curriculum
Date: 27 Sep 92 02:46:13 GMT
Followup-To: comp.edu
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston
Originator: cgodfrey@ra.cs.umb.edu

I'm considering designing a course in user interfaces and would
be interested to see curricula, reference lists, syllabi
for any existing courses in user interfaces.

-- Colin Godfrey
   cgodfrey@cs.umb.edu

   Department of Mathematics & Computer Science
   University of Massachusetts at Boston
   100 Morrissey Boulevard
   Boston, MA 02125-3393
   U.S.A.
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From: stillmmd@cnsvax.uwec.edu (Mark Stillman)
Newsgroups: comp.edu
Subject: dissection software needed
Date: 1 Oct 92 10:49:56 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin -- Eau Claire

I am looking for Mac or MS-DOS software to replace dissection in college-level
biology courses.  I need the company names,phone numbers, cost, liscensing
info, and any other information you can give me.

E-mail me at Stillmmd@cnsvax.uwec.edu.

Thanks a million,
Mark

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From: Peter.Gorny@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Peter Gorny)
Subject: Re: user interface courses
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:54:22 GMT

Douglas Merrill <dmerrill@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> writes:
>>I'm considering designing a course in user interfaces and would
>>be interested to see curricula, reference lists, syllabi
>>for any existing courses in user interfaces.

>Check out the Association for Computing Machines' recent publication
>"Curricula for Human-Computer Interaction" (or some similar name).  I
>don't have the reference here (it's at my house), but if you have trouble
>finding it, send me mail.

ACM SIGCHI - Curricula for Human-Computer Interaction
ACM Order No. 608920

ACM Order Dept.  POBox 64145   Baltimore MD 21264  1-800-342-6626



      ________________________________________________________
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                        Prof. Dr. Peter Gorny -- Vice Chairman
      C.v.Ossietzky Universitaet Oldenburg -- Informatics Dept
.     ________________________________________________________
      Snail-Mail:    P.O.Box 2503 - D-2900 Oldenburg - Germany 
      Voice:            +49-441-798-2901 or -4521 (Fax: -2155)
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From: Douglas Merrill <dmerrill@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu>
Subject: Re: user interface courses
Organization: Institute for the Learning Sciences
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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:07:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.024613.16461@cs.umb.edu> Colin Godfrey,
cgodfrey@ra.cs.umb.edu writes:
>I'm considering designing a course in user interfaces and would
>be interested to see curricula, reference lists, syllabi
>for any existing courses in user interfaces.
>
>-- Colin Godfrey
>   cgodfrey@cs.umb.edu
>
>   Department of Mathematics & Computer Science
>   University of Massachusetts at Boston
>   100 Morrissey Boulevard
>   Boston, MA 02125-3393
>   U.S.A.

Check out the Association for Computing Machines' recent publication
"Curricula for Human-Computer Interaction" (or some similar name).  I
don't have the reference here (it's at my house), but if you have trouble
finding it, send me mail.

Good luck,

Douglas Merrill
Visiting Scholar
The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Northwestern University
1890 Maple Ave
Evanston IL 60201
dmerrill@ils.nwu.edu
From: dbrown4@mach1.wlu.ca (david brown s)
Subject: Computational Science (Physics)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:43:38 GMT
Keywords: computational, science, physics, information

I am looking for information or contacts with respect to
undergraduate programs in Computational Science or
Computational Physics. I am interested in the philosophy,
structure, and success of such programs. The location doesn't
matter.
Please post to this group, or email me directly.
Thanks to all those who respond!

David Brown
Dept. of Physics & Computing
Wilfrid Laurier University
dbrown4@mach1.wlu.ca

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From: mazzucch@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (massimo mazzucchi)
Subject: editing
Keywords: editing
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:28:30 GMT


HI

i am MAX and i have a problem with editing 
of program of sale for rappresentation at the theatre

i want know if exist a program for write

- programm of sale format a5

- and other format a3, a4


all for publicity for theatre , movies ecc.


thanks for your help 

by max
From: pcs$1260@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.edu
Subject: Mason and Brown Lex & Yacc Example Source needed
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:41:48 -0600
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University

I am trying to ftp the example programs in _Lex & Yacc_,
by Tony Mason and Doug Brown, O'Reilly and Associates, Inc.,
second edition without notable success.

Could someone e-mail me a copy or tell me how to ftp them
where anonymous ftp is allowed?

Thanks,

Dominica

pcs$1260
Southeastern Louisiana University
Hammond, Louisiana 70402
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From: crawford@boole.mitre.org (Randy Crawford)
Subject: Re: rankings???
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:00:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.163448.28226@sbcs.sunysb.edu> rhorn@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu () writes:
>  from time to time someone at Stony Brook brings forth the rather
>  dubious claim that Stony Brook's Comp Sci dept. is ranked 14th
>  nationally. I just have a few questions that I was hoping someone
>  here could answer:
>
>  1) Is this true? Is Comp Sci education in such a sorry state that 
>     Stony Brook is considered to be among the top 15 schools?
>
>  2) Who exectly ranks these things? How often do they do this?
>     When was the last time they did this? What criteria do they
>     use?

Never forget that that 14th rating is _one person's opinion_, namely that of
Jack Gourman.  It's also good to remember that nearly everyone has questioned
his methods and conclusions as whimsical and largely unrepeatable.

That said, I asked the same question a few months back, whether SUNY SB was 
really superior to Columbia, Dartmouth, Harvard, Rice, etc.  I was assured
by several individuals that SB did indeed deserve its reputation as a good
school especially in computer science.

One last point.  That 14th spot should be seen as roughly relative, in part
the result of numerous schools having refused to fill out Gourman's question-
naires (eg. Harvard) and so are excluded from his rankings.

--
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crawford@mitre.org
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From: technews@iitmax.iit.edu (Kevin Kadow)
Newsgroups: comp.edu,comp.admin.policy,comp.org.acm,comp.unix.admin,chi.general
Subject: Computers for students, by students.
Summary: Has anybody had positive experiences with student run UNIX (bbs)
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:35:18 GMT
Followup-To: sender
Distribution: usa
Organization: ACM/Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago, IL

We (The association for Computing Machinery, IIT chapter) are working to get
a computer for student use, to provide the students and student organizations
with a Bulletin Board System for announcements, discussion, and the like.

	One of the requests the Finance Board (the student "leaders" who make
financial decisions) has made before they will consider approval is that we
provide them with information from:

	"... other universities or groups outside of IIT who could advocate
the additon of such a system, or ideally, have made such an addtion themselves."

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From: rhorn@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu
Newsgroups: comp.edu
Subject: rankings???
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:34:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: sbcs.1992Sep28.163448.28226
Distribution: na
Organization: SUNY at Stony Brook where no one gets an education!
Originator: rhorn@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu

Hi!

  from time to time someone at Stony Brook brings forth the rather
  dubious claim that Stony Brook's Comp Sci dept. is ranked 14th
  nationally. I just have a few questions that I was hoping someone
  here could answer:

  1) Is this true? Is Comp Sci education in such a sorry state that 
     Stony Brook is considered to be among the top 15 schools?

  2) Who exectly ranks these things? How often do they do this?
     When was the last time they did this? What criteria do they
     use?

  Thank you for entertaining my idle curiosity (sp?) ...

Robb Horn (moderately disgruntled Stony Brook student who doesn't
  feel he's getting his money's worth)


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