HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: boserj@netcom.com (Jeffrey Boser)
Subject: Re: Demuffining & Hug Request
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:57:15 GMT

rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport) writes:
> ftlao@acad3.alaska.edu (OSSANDER LINDA A) writes:
>*hug*
>*snuggle*
>
>I'll let Jeff do the rest.  Tell him I'll reimburse him.

<grin>  ok, Roy, but I should warn you..  you dont have the anatomy.

>Hmm ... I wonder what Jeff is doing in Alaska :).

wondering where I can get a 5 gallon can of Astroglide.
<wink>

>(BTW, please apologize for me for falling asleep in the car on the way to
>the airport.  As he knows, it was a long night).

yes, I know.  and you are forgiven roy.  and if you wrek my car while
im gone, Im gonna have to tickle you till Im satisfied you've paid
for it.  <grin>  but dont take that as a sign of encouragement.

<hugs and cuddles from alaska>

whew, is it cold out here.  I never knew how fluffy snow could get.
I made the mistake of trying to taste it, and accidently inhaled a
handful. <smirk>  its not quite the same, lemme tell ya.  icecicles
or however you spel them, are pretty cool.  my sick and depraved mind
of which I am proud, has come up with a few interesting ideas already.
my feet are wet, my hands are cold, but Im havining fun.  now..  if
only i can deal with this 5 hours of grey light a day.  you were
quite right, roy.  alaska is pretty monocrome..  black most of the time,
then gray, then lots of white.  Im tempted to go find a spray paint
can of bright red and doddle on the snow, just to brighten things up.

I was thinking of trying the standard male response and pee my name
in the snow, but that wouldnt have been nice to the neighbors.  and
Im afraid of frostbite in that area.  <smile>

now if only I could do some of these things in public, i could
drop my purity score too...  <thoughtful look>

well, Ill drop further reports on lubrication, pink parts, cuddling,
and (to quote a new friend) the damn fucking cold, in a few
days.  so hugs and cuddles and gropes and groans and..  well, you
can come up with the rest on your own.  <smile>

.......jeff

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: orc@vpnet.chi.il.us (david parsons)
Subject: Re: Australians (was Re: accidently out)
Organization: Department of Atomic Text Units
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:34:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.204539.28035@cbnews.cb.att.com> eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (Piglet) shamefully confesses:
|Ha!  I've got you _all_ beat.  I own a David Soul album.  <blush>

   Yup, that wins.

   But not by much;  I confess to owning a tape with bits of old
Donna Summer well mixed in with the English Beat, Madness, and
snippets of Monty Python.  I *like* disco, which goes to prove that
I am a pervert (for those of you who've not had the chance to
discover this in a much more personal fashion ;-)


|>>And reason #3 for going to America is that I have her address |-)
|
|She lives here!  ON my side of the pond?  Aigh!  <hyperventilate>
|Is democracy safe for mankind?  (Don't answer that...)

   I don't know if this is a good thing.  It's much easier to drool
over Tori Amos if she's safely tucked away in the UK (so says the
Orc, who's been to the UK five times in the past 14 months, and
will make a sixth trip in exactly 40 days...)  I can think of a few
people who, even though they're not rock singers, would lead to an
immediate and fatal (to the job, that is) drop in productivity if
there wasn't an ocean (or, for that matter, sun.com to nicely f**k
up return addresses so that mail won't come back without heroic
measures...) in the way to cut down on the impulse visits...

                 ____
   david parsons \bi/ Distinguished member, more-money-than-sense club.
		  \/
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: sthor@ctp.com (Sarah Thornburg)
Subject: Re: muffins anonymous
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:33:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.004444.24071@fuug.fi> an5402@anon.penet.fi writes:
>Now that I no longer have a reason for lurking (isn't anonymity grand?), I
>wanted to jump in and say hi.  "HI!"
>
>Eventually I hope to stop hiding behind an anonymous number, but for now
>it feels great to finally take part in the discussions.
>
>I've suffered the sting of bi-wariness, I've come out to family and friends,
>I've had my share of bad hair days, and yes...I occasionally would like to ask
>for a hug.
>
>Thanks to all of you for being here.
>
>Renee


HUGHUGHUGHUGHUGHUGHUGHUG

Welcome to the group!  :)

We're glad to be here too, right guys????  :)

*Sarah*  :)

-- 
Sarah Thornburg                    | "Love that dirty water.... 
Cambridge Technology Partners      | Boston you're my home." 
sthor@ctp.com                      |
From: winsor@geek. (js)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bisexual idenity and community (was Re: A hug request and ...)
Date: 11 Jan 1993 22:58:18 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments
Distribution: world
Reply-To: winsor@geek. (js)
NNTP-Posting-Host: geek.teng.ppd.ti.com

In article <C0nMx1.IqD@news.udel.edu>, seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore) writes:

   "The only thing worse than being talked about 
   is not being talked about." Oscar Wilde.
   
   BTW, this has nothing to do with Zoe's post.  I know that story too
   but as she my lips are sealed.
   
   I won't say much, but I will quote one of the participants.
   "Look over there.  That's my girlfriend making out with two of my
   good friends."
   :)
   I was a friend.  :)
Jim, this and "the other thread" are just too provocative to pass
up!  C'mon...  it's not like we won't make up stuff more embarrassing
than the truth.  See also dp (orc) and, um, others.  ahem.

You, also, are teasing.  And teasing 30,000 people is mean.


john, who is not very good at exerting social pressure.
-- 
The opinions expressed in the above do not reflect those of
my employer, or anybody connected with my employer.  Including me.
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore)
Subject: Re: Hi There
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 04:46:41 GMT

In article <8JAN199318520639@zeus.tamu.edu> dsr6190@zeus.tamu.edu (RANWALA, DON SUJEEWA DEVAPRIY) writes:
>
>I am a bi-sexual male.  I study architecture at Texas A&M University.  I am 
>delighted to know that there is a bi-sexual net.  I am kind of new to the scene.
Hiya welcome.  I can't help on the literature or anything but
hey it gets pretty heated here sometimes :)

>Thank you in advance,
>
>Sujeewa.
>


-- 
Jim Dilmore - seamus@brahms.udel.edu    or    dilmore@che.udel.edu 
   Deconstruct your Gender          Safe sex doesn't mean no sex.          
Give me life, Give me pain,         It just means use your imagination. 
Give me myself again.  Tori Amos.            Billy Bragg 
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (Piglet)
Subject:  following up...
Organization: who, me?
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 04:38:22 GMT
Keywords: signatures

Ok, boyls and girs....when you're editing someone else's
post to make your own follow-up contribution:

1.  DO edit out irrelevant material
2.  THAT INCLUDES .SIGNATURES !!!!!

There has been a rash of offending posts recently.  I won't
embarrass anyone by naming names--yet...



Piglet
From: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Blatant hug request
Keywords: hugs, support
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:33:11 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <C0Iv9B.9Kt@news.udel.edu> jcarroll@bach.udel.edu (James Carroll) writes:
->I'm not usually forward enough to request hugs, but I have a feeling I'm
->going to need lots of moral support to get through this weekend -- the
->phone lines were full of tension this evening.

DISCLAIMER: The following assumes James' consent.  Anything which does not
            meet with his prior and explicit (though not necessarily verbal
            :) ) consent was not actually performed, but was rather a figment
            of the reader's imagination.

*stalks James*
*tip-toes closer, approaching James from the rear* (Hey! Get your minds out
                                                    of the gutter!)
*POUNCES!*
*hugs James gently, yet firmly, slowly squeezing the breath out of his body*
*rubs his back*
*rubs his shoulders*
*rubs his feet*
*offers him a condom*

Anytime, James.

-roy

-- 
Roy S. Rapoport     internet: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu      bitnet: rsrsoda@ucbocf
anonymous mail: wi.5836@n7kbt.rain.com        androphile, gynophile, kerryphile
"What I used to think is me / is just a faded memory." -NIN
"No mayonnaise in Ireland"
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: I'm coming!
Organization: Cuddlehogs Anonymous
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 04:27:05 GMT

In article <9JAN199312265032@acad3.alaska.edu> ftlao@acad3.alaska.edu (OSSANDER LINDA A) writes:
:I enjoy them very much and am definately looking at the whole picture.  Just
:wanted to say hello to everyone and let you know I am here.  In Alaska..

Brrrrr!  No wonder you need a hug!  Allow me... (I've just packed my sweetie
off in a plane to the States and I'm suffering severe hug-withdrawal
myself...)

           *friction-producing-warming-up-rubbing-up-and-down-hug*

G
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore)
Subject: Re: Okay...okay...here is an official demuffin...
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:20:02 GMT

In article <C054Hq.Fy5.1@cs.cmu.edu> pooh+@cs.cmu.edu (Will Timmins) writes:
>
>Hugs by the truck load... (I suppose this, too, would be my official demuffin..
>have been lurking for a while, just started posting, and haven't really 
>indicated I was bi. I am. There)
>
A.) Welcome and hugs nibbles and pecks to you.
B.)  Hey I'm bi too - what a coincidence.

>Hope you have fun on the net, fun in your life...
>
Life?  What life?  

>Peace, light, love, and happiness to thee and thine.
>
>
>-- 
>[Pooh Bear incarnate.                                             ]
A happy pounce you pooh from a recovering Tigger.
Want some honey??  [nudge nudge]

-- 
Jim Dilmore - seamus@brahms.udel.edu    or    dilmore@che.udel.edu 
   Deconstruct your Gender          Safe sex doesn't mean no sex.          
Give me life, Give me pain,         It just means use your imagination. 
Give me myself again.  Tori Amos.            Billy Bragg
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:11:51 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Purity
 <1993Jan4.223344.7425@tcsi.com> <93005.004022SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
 <1993Jan5.135908.25894@news.acns.nwu.edu>

In article <1993Jan5.135908.25894@news.acns.nwu.edu>, Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu
(Albert Lunde) says:
>
>In article <93005.004022SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
>Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>>The defintion in question, which I continue to find a good thumb
>>rule, asserts that someone is probably an adult if, when you say
>>something they do not understand, ask you what you mean, rather than
>>telling you you are crazy.
>
>I don't know if I'd use this as a critera of "adulthood", but I find
>it refreshing as a standard of civility.  (In which context I am reminded
>of Gandhi's response when asked "What do you think of Western Civililization":
>
> "I think it would be a good idea."
>
>--
> Albert Lunde         | Interfaith  |     *Y*Y*      "A branch on the
> Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu |  Bisexual   |      *Y*        tree of life"
>                      |  Feminist   |.......|.........................

Piper was a reactionary old coot, and very clearly didn't think
someone had a claim to maturity if they weren't civil.

I'm prone to some reactionary opinions, and on this point tend to
agree with him.  (Not 'civil under any circumstances at all', I'm
not into playing Moral Victory; but civil unless repeatedly
provoked.)

Graydon
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: michael@tfs.com (Your message will cost the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars to send everywhere.)
Subject: Re: I'm coming!
Organization: TRW Financial Systems
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 07:21:45 GMT

I just *LOVE* the subject line on this thread!
It gives me a warm feeling just seeing the header!




-- 
========================================================
Michael Shiloh			michael@tfs.com
TRW Financial Systems		(510) 704-3520
Berkeley, Ca
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: eowyn@chopin.udel.edu (Zoe Antonia Velonis)
Subject: Re: (Not) Re: Daoism, Pooh, and Bisexuals
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:05:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.191654.6553@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> arodgers@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Angus H Rodgers) writes:
>In <1993Jan12.182051.9144@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>
>kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker) writes:
>
>>The T****s?  Well, the important thing is to get Leela to help.  A few
>>taps with the sonic screwdriver should be useful.
>
>Oh, Leela! *Leela*! [Sweats. Palpitates. Drools. Quivers.] That
>costume ...  [Faints.] 

Ditto.  Swooning was about my state.  I'd watch it with my brother, years
before I even thought of coming out, and he'd drool all over her image and I'd
just have this beatific, tolerant (inwardly sympathetic) smile on my face.

>Funnily enough, the very similarly-named "Teela" (Chelsea Field)
>in the exceptionaly silly "Masters of the Universe", had exactly
>the same effect on me, even though her costume covered her ... 
>all ... over. [Drool, drool, slobber.]


Yeah, me too.  Of course, I always thought it was because she had red hair.  I
always wanted to have red hair when I was a kid.  Now, of course, I just want
to *have* red hair...(gotta live up to my assertion that I'm hornier than Kay!)

Cheetarah in Thundercats, if you ever saw it, was also *very* nice.  Her     
costume showed less skin, but was skin-tight....mmmm....

>Test of Kinsey rating?  -- I just had no eyes at all for the half-
>naked hunks in that film.

Hell, no.  I just realized you were talking about the *movie*, not the 
*cartoon*  oops.  Oh.  Well, I don't remember Teela in the movie, but 
the title star (I won't deign to use his name) *did* have rather nice pecs.
Even though I'm generally not into the body-builder type.

Kinsey ratings...hmmm...in spite of my drooling over women, I think 
that lately I'm Kinsey 2, maybe less.  Approaching 1.  What a cycle.
Never boring, at any rate!

Zoe






Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Subject: Re: Bi-wariness
Followup-To: soc.bi
Originator: lunde@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Reply-To: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 04:59:52 GMT

In article <1ieundINNfrl@transfer.stratus.com> 
 pfieland@citron.sw.stratus.com (Peggy Fieland) writes:
>I've been going to a lesbian rap group. I know, I know, I should
>have been going to the bi rap....  Anyway, over coffee, I got
>to trying to tell the others why I see myself as bisexual.  Since
>I've been through this before, I thought I was prepared for the
>"If you want to be with a woman, why don't you call yourself a
>lesbian?".  What I had a really hard time with was the open, this
>time, admission from a couple of the women, that they'd never, ever,
>become involved with a bisexual, the subtext being, as far I could
>tell, "Even if we were right for each other, I'd never even ask
>you out because you're bisexual".
[...]
>Maybe it's just one of those weeks, but I'm feeling unusally
>pessimistic, that I'll never find a woman, never move off this
>point in my life.  I'm feeling fragile and in need of support.

<Hugs>

I would encourage you to hang in there -- others can speak more directly
about the women's communities than I, but my impression is there is
a wide range of attitides towards bis, among both lesbians and gay men.

Lesbian feminism has handed down a greater tendency to put this in
ideological terms, (though I think this tends to rationalize myths 
about bis more than develop a factual analysis.)

Communicating about being bi seems to me to call for a lot of "both/and"
messages to an "either/or" world.

-- 
 Albert Lunde         | Interfaith  |     *Y*Y*      "A branch on the
 Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu |  Bisexual   |      *Y*        tree of life"
                      |  Feminist   |.......|.........................
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: boserj@netcom.com (Jeffrey Boser)
Subject: Re: I'm coming!
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 13:28:16 GMT

winsor@Not Heresomewhere.out.there (js) writes:
>boserj@netcom.com (Jeffrey Boser) writes:
>*** This is almost enough to make me wish I wont be in Alaska in
>*** a week.  almost. <grin>
>*** 
>*** ....jeff
>
>What would make it not "almost" anymore.
>
>(blatant flirt)
>
>john

<laugh>  actually john..  it would take quite a bit, sorry.
I have someone i love up there that I'll be visiting, and
I have been waiting almost a year to give her a hug and a
kiss and a back rub and a front rub and..  whew, im going
to have to take a cold shower.

its nice to be appreciated though.  have roy give you
a hug for me, Ill reimburse him. <winks at roy before
he can call me a flirt again>

.....jeff

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: miket@hermes.tcs.com (Michael Turner nmscore Assoc.)
Subject: Re: What's a "partner"? (was Re: treating men as sex toys)
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:53:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.130709.13566@news.acns.nwu.edu> Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) writes:
>With the majority of men it is easier to build relationships on
>something less personal that feelings -- like work or sports -- there
>may be bonds built up, but women tend to be more open to getting
>into feelings up-front.  

Well, yes and no.  If by "relationship" you mean "long-term association",
then you can have a "relationship" with your parole officer.  Work and
sports are not unemotional arenas -- sports especially.

It isn't that men's relationships aren't built on feelings as much, but
more that the feelings are more often mediated by objects and activities.
(Theory: industrialization and modernization has turned the standard
male communications medium into something more alienating than not.)

Women are often much more direct in *expression* of feelings, but sur-
prisingly often, in my view, the expression will be faked where some
other expression would be more awkward.  (Men handle this more often
by simply avoiding expression.)  In short, and simplifying outrageously,
women "make nice", men are impassive.

So I'm leery of characterizing one style as more authentic than the
other, necessarily.

>Meeting a mixed-sex group of bisexuals full of sci-fi fans and 
>computer geeks (UCBU) makes evident how artificial these sex-linked roles
>really are.

Artifice is human, so I don't condemn it out of hand.  Are you sure you
haven't substituted one artifice for another?  Not to slam (I'm arguably
a sci-fi fan and computer geek myself), but are people who are into these
things somehow a likelier source of "natural" roles?  Kind of counter-
intuitive, in some ways.

To me, heterosexual moderate demopublican couples with 2.5 kids can be
as natural -- or as artificial -- as anyone.  Some people do this because
"that's what you're supposed to do" (e.g., my poor benighted parents, who
really should have allowed themselves nonstandard individuality); others
do it because "that's what we are (my older sister and her husband, who
have a very comfortable standard individuality.)
---
Michael Turner
miket@tcs.com
From: J.W.Harley@newcastle.ac.uk (Jon Harley)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Impossible acts
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:02:21 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker) writes:
>In article <1993Jan5.173337.1@io.tudelft.nl> vdijk@io.tudelft.nl writes:
>>Maybe we could collect votes on what to replace this nasty .sig with.
>>What about:
>> 'the Crisco Kid: pleasant darkhaired bi smart assertive cutie' ?
>Cutie: No, that's too kind.  Especially when coming from someone
>	who maximally out-cutes me.

WOW!! This I *must* see, wonder what collaboration/s we have at Delft :)


//jon (not holding out much hope of getting abroad before IT's finished)
   ___________________ ____ ________________________________________
  / -- Jonathan Harley \  /_    And they covered up the sun        //    //  //
 / J.W.Harley@ncl.ac.uk \/ /   until the birds had flown away...  // // //////
/_Phone:UK 091 222 8504__\/___________________________________///////////  //
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: sunthej@alleg.edu (Jake Blues)
Subject: Re: What's a "partner"? (was Re: treating men as sex toys)
Reply-To: sunthej@alleg.edu
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:27:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.184304.9649@pony.Ingres.COM> becki@Ingres.COM  
(Rebecca E. Tants) writes:

> Uhm - i can understand this distinction.

.. great post deleted ...

>did that make any sense?
> 
> becki

	Yeah.

						Jake
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: drakon@shell.portal.com (Harry Benjamin Gibson)
Subject: Re: Bloody Media
Keywords: aaarrgghhh!!!!
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Distribution: soc.bi
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:23:02 GMT

This is an easy one really. What is happening here is that Nureyev had more fun than most people. The same with Freddy Mercury. There is something in most      peoples psycies that just hate it when some one is having more fun/better sex/  greater life than they are. Its jealousy pure and simple. Its childish, immatureand irrational, but also so human. Most people can't see the simple fact that   they can do all those things too.

Ben Gibson(life is too short not to be enjoyed)
From: winsor@teng.ppd.ti.com (js)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Impossible acts
Date: 12 Jan 1993 19:39:55 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments
Distribution: world
Reply-To: winsor@teng.ppd.ti.com (js)
NNTP-Posting-Host: geek.teng.ppd.ti.com

In article <1993Jan11.222535.11857@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, dwells@lonestar.utsa.edu (Darren . Wells) writes:
} In article <1993Jan8.161024.4145@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>
}  kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker) writes:
} >
} >I think I'd only look uncomfortable in a suit of any description.
} >The less I'm wearing, the happier I am; but if I have to wear
} >clothes, then I'm happiest in my t-shirts and jeans, ripped or not.
} 
} I must meet you.  Everytime you describe yourself I get more and
} more interested. (and curious)
And _now_ who should be jealous?  pout

} (sending vast amounts of blatant hugs, kisses, and e-flirts in Kay's
} direction)
pout 

john
-- 
The opinions expressed in the above do not reflect those of
my employer, or anybody connected with my employer.  Including me.
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 11:49:37 EST
From: Ellen <DICKSONE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bloody Media
Distribution: soc.bi
 <1993Jan8.224241.13957@pony.Ingres.COM>

>Harry Benjamin Gibson (drakon@shell.portal.com) wrote:
> This is an easy one really. What is happening here is that Nureyev had
> more fun than most people.

*gasp* *choke*  <oh oh oh my mind is in the gutter>
As much as I grieve for Nureyev's death (regardless of cause) somehow how
I can't help thinking about his appearance on the Muppet Show i.e. how
Miss Piggy actively pursued him.

-El, going to wash her *brain* out with soap
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