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From: mmoore%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Michael Moore)
Subject: Call for Votes : comp.windows.x.apps
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:53:24 MDT
Keywords: new group,call for votes
Reply-To: mmoore%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu
Organization: University of Utah, CS Dept., Salt Lake City

	This is the call for votes regarding the creation of the news
group "comp.windows.x.apps".

	To cast your vote, send email to "mmoore@peruvian.utah.edu", and be
sure to clearly indicate whether you vote yes or no.  Preferably, yes votes
should state "I vote yes for comp.windows.x.apps" and no votes should
state "I vote no for comp.windows.x.apps" somewhere in the message.

	Votes are only counted if sent through email.  Posted votes are
not valid.  

	This call for votes will end April 29th, 1992.  Votes RECEIVED
after midnight of April 29th will not be counted.  At the end of the 
voting period I will talley the yes and no votes and post a summary.

	Creation of the newsgroup at the end of the voting period depends
upon the following conditions :

> AFTER the waiting period, and if there were no serious objections that might
>   invalidate the vote, and if 100 more valid YES/create votes are received
>   than NO/don't create AND at least 2/3 of the total number of valid votes
>   received are in favor of creation, a newgroup control message may be sent
>   out.  If the 100 vote margin or 2/3 percentage is not met, the group should
>   not be created."

	Pending is the official charter for the proposed group :

-------------------------- BEGIN CHARTER -------------------------------
Name   : comp.windows.x.apps
Status : Non-Moderated

     This newsgroup would be for the discussion of X Windows
applications, both public-domain and commercial (where appropriate).
Its main purpose would be to facilitate the finding of specific X
Window applications (such as ftp sites for those applications which
are in the public-domain), to discuss which application is best suited
to particular situations, to provide a medium where one can review
applications, and to provide a place where functional questions can be
asked about X Window programs.

     The newsgroup would cover all forms of X applications, regardless
of the widget set(s) used or the program's function.

     The newsgroup would not be intended for Xlib or widget
programming discussion, but would encourage discussion of application
compilation or modifications, provided they are not more suited to an
Xlib or widget question.

--------------------------- END CHARTER ----------------------------------

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| Michael Moore (mmoore@peruvian.utah.edu)  Phone : (801) 359-6552     |
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From: cattelan@everest.ee.umn.edu (Russell Cattelan)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Xwebster Servers
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:23:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.1992Apr15.202327.2786
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, EE dept.

In <1992Apr10.022055.1643@venice.sedd.trw.com> diaz@venice.sedd.trw.com (Phillip Diaz) writes:


>Xwebster users,

>    I just recently compiled/linked the xwebster Motif version
>onto my HP in Los Angeles, CA. I cannot find a local webster
>server to run off. Anyone have suggestions so I can run this
>service?


Since I have also been getting a few people asking where they can
access to a webster server.
Here is it as answered in the FAQs for X.


Subject:  28)  Where can I find a dictionary server for xwebster?

        Webster's still owns the copyright to the on-line copies of Webster's
Dictionary which are found at various (university) sites. After it became aware
that these sites were then acting as servers for other sites running xwebster 
and gnuemacs-webster, it asked that server sites close off external access.
     [The NeXT machine apparently is also licensed to have the dictionary. A
Webster daemon for NeXT machines is available from iuvax.cs.indiana.edu 
(129.79.254.192) in "pub/webster/NeXT-2.0".]
        Unless you want to get a legal on-line copy yourself or can
find a site which can grant you access, you are probably out of luck. 

        However, if you are a legitimate site, you'll want to pick up the
latest xwebster, as-is on export:contrib/xwebster.tar.Z [10/91]; the file 
xwebster.README includes discussions of the availability, illegality,and 
non-availability of dictionary servers. 
        
[courtesy steve@UMIACS.UMD.EDU (Steve Miller) and mayer@hplabs.hp.com
(Niels 
Mayer) 11/90]



Please this is an old discusion lets not rehash it.

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From: stoeckli@disuns2.epfl.ch (Laurent Stoeckli)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Getting Window ID
Keywords: WINDOW Colormap
Date: 2 Apr 92 11:57:06 GMT
Reply-To: stoeckli@disuns2.epfl.ch (Laurent Stoeckli)
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

I have to translate an application from GPR to XWindow and I have 3 questions
to you gurus.

1) I would like to get the window ID of the xterm from which I call my program.
   I haven't found how to do it and I wonder if it is possible.

2) I haven't found either how to know how full is a colormap, i.e. how much
    entries are not used. 

3) The station on which I work has 2 visual : a PseudoColor and a DirectColor,
   is it normal that I can't use shared colormaps ? 

	
	thanks for the reponse in advance.


  stoeckli@disuns2.epfl.ch
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: mleganza@isis.cs.du.edu (Mark Leganza)
Subject: How does one test a new X11R5/Motif 1.1.4 build to make sure it's ok ?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 20:57:08 GMT

I'm in the middle of making X11R5 and then Motif 1.1.4 on:

Sun 3 & 4's (4.1.1), IBM 3090 (aix 1.2.1), BBN TC2000, and Cray 2 (cos 6.1).

I'm sure the Sun builds are ok, but what should be stress tested on the more
exotic platforms ???? What is most likly to fail ???? Any suggestions would be
appreciated........

Thanks in advance, Mark

Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: ware@xylophone.cis.ohio-state.edu (Peter Ware)
Subject: Re: Question on Xt
Originator: ware@xylophone.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:52:43 GMT

In article <1992Apr3.231003.8910@gdstech.grumman.com>
raj@gdstech.grumman.com (Rajesh Chawla) writes:

   Why do I need to initialize the fields in the classRec structure for my
   superclass when there is a class_initialize method that is downward
   chained? 

I assume you mean the static initializations?  Such as:

XoLabelClassRec xoLabelClassRec = {
	{ /* Core */
		(WidgetClass) &xoSimpleClassRec, /* superclass */
		"Label",			/* class_name */
		sizeof(XoLabelRec),		/* widget_size */
		ClassInit,			/* class_initialize */
		ClassPartInitialize,		/* class_part_initialize */
		False,				/* class_inited */
		Initialize,			/* initialize */
		NULL,				/* initialize_hook */
		XtInheritRealize,		/* realize */

	...
	}
}

Because C is _not_ an object oriented language and this is the manner
one specifies the values for the class variables.

If you mean why not have the class_initialize() method dynamically
initiallize all those fields then the answer is it could (assuming you
specified the value of at least class_initialize) except the current
style allows the compiler to perform some error checking.

In theory, one can create widget classes on the fly, although I've
seen no tools that do so.

Does that answer your question?

--pete
--
Pete Ware / Ohio State University /
           ware@cis.ohio-state.edu
           (614) 293-0535
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Howard Chu)
Subject: Re: xterm slave mode ?
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:38:24 GMT

In article <n9wjn==.jerrold@netcom.com> jerrold@netcom.com (Ronald Gailey) writes:
>This should probably be in the FAQ, but I was unable to find it.
>
>What is the definition of slave mode (trigger via -Sxxd) ?  From
>reading the man pages I was lead to believe that slave mode would
>allow the xterm client to read input from stdin, then display it
>in the window.

The term "slave mode" refers to the way pseudo-tty's (pty's) are implemented.
>
>or named output files.  In this porting effort, we would like to have
>the applications also be able to output to xterm windows if the config
>file contained a string starting with xterm.  The thought was that if
>the application forked to create a child, then used close and dup
>appropriately to connect stdout of the parent to stdin of the child, and
>then execed an xterm in slave mode, that data output from the parent's
>stdout would appear in the xterm window.  Obviously, my understanding of
>slave mode is lacking, as it appears slave mode has nothing to do with
>stdin/stdout.  If any one would leave me a definition regarding what
>really happens in slave mode, it would be greatly appreciated.

First you need to familiarize yourself with ptys... Basically, a pty is a
mechanism that allows one program to fake a tty interface to any other
programs. The pty has two parts, a master and a slave. The client program
gets set up to read and write the slave, and it behaves as a normal tty
device. Anything that is written to the slave can be read from the master,
and anything written from the master appears as input on the slave. (So,
you get two-way IPC, like with a socket, but the program on the slave device
doesn't know it's using IPC, it thinks it's talking to a real live terminal...)
>
>Also, if anyone has an idea about re-directing an application's stdout
>into an xterm without making the application a child of the xterm via 
>the -e argument (that's not possible given the nature of the software
>being ported), that information would also be greatly appreciated.

That's exactly what you can do with slave mode, once you set it up properly.
Your application has to obtain access to a pty. The process that generates
output for the Xterm should write to the master half of the pty, and the
xterm process itself should be directed to the slave half.
-- 
  -- Howard Chu @ Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
From: visser@sci.kun.nl (Erik Joost Visser)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Server for Tektronics 4317 terminal
Summary: Anyone have code for the 4317 display of Tektronics
Keywords: Tektronics 4317,Server Tektronics
Date: 9 Apr 92 08:13:41 GMT
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands

I am currently using X11 version less then 4 on my Tektronics 4317 terminal and
am trying to upgrade to X11R4 and/or X11R5.
All compiles well except for the server which stops by stating that it can only
maintain a 8 bits or 1 bits color screen, (while the 4317 is 4 bits).
So my question is whether someone has the old server code for the 4317 display
which should be able to maintain the 4 bit screen.

                      Thanks in advance, Erik
From: cd27@itri.bton.ac.uk (Chris Dale)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Need Help inst XR4 -> SLC
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:14:22 GMT
Reply-To: cd27@itri.bton.ac.uk
Organization: ITRI, Brighton Polytechnic, UK

I am trying to install X11R4 on a Sun SPARCstation SLC running SunOS 4.1.1
direct from the 1991 SUG CD-ROM and am having a bit of trouble.  The
make World keeps trying to refer to a file called cg2reg from the
server/ddx/sun directory.  This file is not present on the SPARC
architecture (I have cg2,cg6 etc...).  I think it is looking for the
sun/4 configuration.  How can I change this ?  When installing from the
CD-ROM the file is naturally read only so I can't tailor the imake config
file (sun.cf). 
Should this install work directly or will I have to copy all the source 
to disk first and compile from there ?  Has anybody done this succesfully ?
Any ideas and suggestions gratefully accepted.

Thanks in Advance

Chris...

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From: sinai@sono.uucp (Julian &)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: WANTED: good plotting/graphics utility for X
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:19:14 GMT
	<1992Apr11.010547.1387@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California

I'm looking for a "graph" widget which will take an array of (x,y)
data points and produce a two-dimensional plot with axis labels. What
I have in mind is something along the lines of the strip chart widget
that is part of the X11 toolkit, but which is of no use to me unless I
hack it to accept 2-d data. I'll consider using clients like xmgr and
xgobi if someone can suggest a way to pass them the data and pop them
up as part of my application.

Thanks,
Julian Sinai
sinai@acuson.com
From: klute@tommy.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Rainer Klute)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: window dump to color ps
Date: 16 Apr 92 08:56:29 GMT
Organization: University of Dortmund, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: tommy

In article <70326620119704@embers.ra.anl.gov>, renalds@embers.ra.anl.gov (A
Renalds RA/208/Sdcp ????) writes:
|> Can someone help me locate the latest version of the program
|> which dumps color X-Windows to a PS file which can be sent to 
|> a color printer? 

With PBMPLUS, you type: xwd | xwdtopnm | pnmtops >window_dump.eps

-- 
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  Univ. Dortmund, IRB
  Postfach 500500         |)|/    Tel.: +49 231 755-4663
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: jean-paul_otin@iegate.mitre.ORG ("Jean-Paul Otin")
Subject: Low Bandwidth X
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 00:08:17 GMT

                       Subject:                               Time:7:53 AM
  OFFICE MEMO          Low Bandwidth X                        Date:4/16/92
Several people have asked about the subject.  Believe there is some X
Consortium work being done.  We know about NCD's XRemote and Graph-Ons own
SLIP.  Does anybody have any leads in this area.
Thanx.                          jp



Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: converse@expo.lcs.mit.EDU (Donna Converse)
Subject: Re: X Toolkit Callback Order
Organization: X Consortium, MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:04:33 GMT


> In article <9204081759.AA00754@excess.lcs.mit.edu>
> converse@expo.lcs.mit.EDU (Donna Converse) writes:
> 
>    >   Can one depend on callbacks (more than one registered for a single
>    > callback resource) being invoked in order they were added to the list.
> 
>    The Intrinsics library can make no guarantees about the order of execution
>    of callback procedures from a callback list.  The interesting fact is that
>    both widget writers and application writers have access to the callback
>    lists, and either one or both can rearrange the contents and/or order of
>    the procedures in the list.
> 
> Aren't the callback lists allowed to be compiled into an internal
> form?  So there really is no way to rearrange the list -- although it
> still remains that the order of execution is not guaranteed.


XtGetValues and XtSetValues also operate on callback list resources,
so some code could be written to do a GetValues on the callback list, 
rearrange the order of callbacks in the list, and then do a SetValues,
which replaces the old list with the new list.


Donna
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: william@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (William Cheng)
Subject: Tgif-2.12-patch5 is available on export...
Followup-To: william@cs.ucla.edu
Originator: william@oahu.cs.ucla.edu
Keywords: draw, postscript, latex, hierarchical, x11, xlib, wysiwyg, bitmap
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 16:13:03 GMT

I've just put tgif-2.12-patch5 (fifth patch for tgif-2.12) in the
following places for anonymous ftp:

	export.lcs.mit.edu	contrib/tgif-2.12-patch5.Z
	cs.ucla.edu		pub/tgif-2.12-patch5.Z

The patch is also posted to comp.sources.bugs.

Please uncompress and then apply the patch with
'patch -p -N < tgif-2.12-patch5'.
Here's a short list of added features/bug fixes.

1)  Fix a bug in printing stretched large bitmaps.
2)  Speed up the printing of xpixmap objects in non-color mode.
3)  Add an X default, XPmInXGrabSCFormat, to make the xpixmap output resembles
    what's generated by xgrabsc.  This shouldn't be done normally unless you
    are using some software the insists on xpm generated by xgrabsc (such as
    Servio's GeODE).  The xpm file generated by xgrabsc is kind of non-standard
    (you can't directly #include such a file in C because some commas are
    missing).

(running 'sum' on tgif-2.12-patch5.Z on a SUN4 should get: 17053  10)

Please send bug reports to william@cs.ucla.edu.
-- 
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From: karl@thuja.gsfc.nasa.gov (Karl A. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: building R5 on SPARCstation under 4.1.2
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:28:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: thuja.1992Apr7.082802
Reply-To: karl@thuja.gsfc.nasa.gov (Karl A. Anderson)
Organization: NASA/GSFC code 923

Is this an FAQ?  Why am I getting ld errors when building X11R5 on my
Sun SPARCstation running OS 4.1.2? 
.
.
.
gcc -fstrength-reduce -fpcc-struct-return -o xinit -O   xinit.o
-L../.././lib/Xmu -lXmu -L../.././extensions/lib -lXext -L../.././lib/X
-lX11    -B/usr/bin/
ld: Undefined symbol
   _XtMalloc
   _XtGetConstraintResourceList
.
.
.
make: Warning: Target `all' not remade because of errors
Current working directory
/tmp_mnt/net/hydro1/disk2/src/X11R5/mit/clients/xinit
.
.
.

Why isn't the newly built libXt being linked in?

How do I get this thing built?  Email preferred, since I don't
ordinarily take this group.  TIA.
--
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From: eric@pencom.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: CLIPS by NASA
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:53:53 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software

In article <9204101447.AA15483@lenny.kaman.com> darin@kaman.COM (Darin S. Lory)  
writes:
> 
> I was wondering if anyone in the X world heard of CLIPS that is
> distributed by NASA.  It is supposed to me an Object-Oriented environment
> to develop X windows tools via Lisp, C++, or another oop language.
> 
> If someone could straighten me out out the information about the product,
> it would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> My boss would to purchase it for testing to see if it meets the requirements
> we need it for.

CLIPS has nothing to do with graphics.
It is an AI'ish type of forward chaining inference language.
Last I knew it was not Object Oriented in the slightest.
It has an interface implemented in a number of graphical environments
which may be how you confused it with graphics in general.
From: readingj@nic.cerf.net (John D. Reading)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Help needed with setting colormap
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:40:25 GMT
Organization: CERFnet

My configuration: X11R4 downloaded from export, twm is the
window manager, an HP 700rx is the server.

I have written an application that calls XSetWindowColormap so that
I can have control of all the colors I want.  I wrote the code,
ran the program once or twice (while debugging things), and the
colormap was being installed as I expected.  Then, after changing
something in the code unrelated to the colormap installation,
I suddenly realized that my colormap was *not* getting installed
when my app (xvis) was run.  This really confounded me.  I undid
the changes I had made, and my colormap did not reappear.  While
fooling around, I chanced to invoke xvis when I had not yet killed
off the previous invocation (so I had two xvis windows up at the
same time).  In the second xvis my colormap is installed correctly,
but the first one still did not have it.

I can run xvis once, start a second one, and then kill
the first, but that seems like an extremely bad workaround.  Can
anyone give me any insight into what I am doing wrong?  If I have
left out useful information (and I am sure I have) please tell me
what else would be needed to know to solve this problem.

(Please email me - if there is any interest I will post a
summary)

Thanks in advance,

John Reading
readingj@cerf.net
From: christy@concour.cs.concordia.ca (YEP christy)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: X11R4 X11R5 question
Date: 11 Apr 92 06:16:48 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec

This is probably an old question but I have no definite way of
knowing unless I ask.

Can someone please tell me the difference between X11R4 and X11R5.
Is there a file somewhere that I can get that will state the
differences?


Thanks

Christy(christy@concour.cs.concordia.ca)
From: hazzam@jade.tufts.edu (Hammad K. Azzam)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Help
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:58:00 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

I am trying to build X11R5 on a DECstation 3100 and I keep receiving the
following error messages:

Can't find include file sys/workstation.h
Can't find include file sys/inputdevice.h
Can't find include file sys/wsdevice.h
All help will be greatly appreciated 
Thanks in advance
please respond to e-mail address

hazzam@osiris.ee.tufts.edu
From: DUNPHE91@irlearn.ucd.ie (DUNPHY)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: x11r5 on hp apollo 700
Date: 6 Apr 92 10:40:44 GMT
Organization: The Internet

has anyone successfully compiled x11r5 on hp apollo series 700 RISC worstations
?

Name:        Seamus Dunphy, B.Sc.
Institute:   University College Dublin
Research:    Power Electronics Circuit Simulation
e-mail:      DUNPHE91@IRLEARN.UCD.IE
phone:       + 353 (1) 7061913
fax:         + 353 (1) 830921
From: smp@cathedral.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu (Shailesh M. Potnis)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews
Subject: need contact person/phone no. for HP InterViews Plus
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:08:40 GMT


	I would like to get more info about the commercial implementation.
Could somebody in this group inform me how to go about contacting HP in this
matter?

	Thanks in advance

--
Shailesh Potnis.			|The good that you do today will
Research Associate.			|be forgotten tomorrow.
Concurrent Engineering Research		|DO GOOD ANYWAY.
Center, West Virginia University.	|
From: smp@cathedral.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu (Shailesh M. Potnis)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews
Subject: Need more info about Canvas::character
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:28:15 GMT


	I need more info about:

virtual void Canvas::character(const Font*, long ch, Coord width, const Color*,
Coord x, Coord y);

	Particularly about the significance of the width and Coord x.

I could not find explanation of this function in the description of the Canvas
class in the 3.0 reference manual.

	All comments and suggestions are highly appreciated.

	Shailesh
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Research Associate.			|be forgotten tomorrow.
Concurrent Engineering Research		|DO GOOD ANYWAY.
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews