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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 15:25:00 CST
From:         "Sylvia Gorman 753-1875 (815)" <A01SSG1@NIU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: OPS/MVS

On Wed, 4 Nov 1992 16:09:59 EST "Duane D. Weaver" <WEAVER@OHSTVMA.BITNET> said:
>Is anyone out there running OPR/MVS from Legent (formerly Goal Systems)?
Northern Illinois University has been running OPS/MVS for just under
2 years.  If you want to know anything specific just ask!

Sylvia Gorman
MVS Systems Programmer
Northern Illinois University
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 11:25:56 EST
From:         Paulo Simoes <PCS@BRIBGE.BITNET>
Subject:      BITNET in MVS

       We don't know if this is the correct discussion list to enter  our
 question, but we will be  very  grateful  of  receiving  any  answer  or
 suggestion about it.
       We are corrently running on a IBM 9021-620 under VM-XA and MVS-ESA
 in two logical partitions but, we are now working in deactivating the VM
 environment till the end  of  December.  So,  we  are  now  looking  for
 information on how to operate with  BITNET  in the  MVS environment. Our
 doubts include :
    .our  connection is now based on a link  RSCS-NJE  to  RSCS-NJE  with
     another  site; are there any pre-determined set  of  parameters  for
     using o link JES2-NJE to RSCS-NJE ?
    .which  is the software to interact with BITNET ? Is there  a  MAILER
     for MVS and an interface for OfficeVision - DISOSS / MVS ?
       Our MVS environment is composed of :
   .MVS  3.1.3          .VTAM 3.3         .NCP 5.2 (NCR/COMTEN)
   .JES2 3.1.3          .CICS 3.1.1       .EP  5e  (NCR/COMTEN)
       Thanks for any help.
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:07:56 CST
From:         Darren Evans-Young <DARREN@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: problem opening a vsam file

On Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:42:24 CST Larry Holder said:
>
>Stan:
>The VSAM error code X'64' for an OPEN says: "OPEN encountered an empty
>alternate index that is part of an upgrade set."
>Checking the COBOL-II Appl Pgming Guide, page 218 says "...After you
>have defined the alternate index and the path and have loaded the
>VSAM indexed file, you can specify a BLDINDEX command to load the
>alternate index with index records..."
>I'm rusty on this topic, but it sounds like you need to load the
>KSDS without reference to any ALTERNATE RECORD KEY, and "then" do a
>build for the alternate index via IDCAMS.
>If I'm wrong, someone please jump in and correct me.  The original
>message indicated a need for a quick reply.
>
>Larry Holder,  Sr. Programmer/Analyst            Bitnet: ##09@UTMARTN
>The University of Tennessee at Martin            Phone:  901-587-7890
>Martin, TN  38238                                Fax:    901-587-7841
>

You are correct Larry. I just sent Stan personal mail saying the
same thing.  At least we're on the right track.

Darren

Darren Evans-Young                                  darren@ua1vm.ua.edu
Seebeck Computer Center                             70651.2605@CompuServe.COM
The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa               (205)348-3988
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:00:55 EST
From:         SOMITCW@VCCSCENT.BITNET
Subject:      PC Based COBOL Products

 On Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:43:09 EDT, DSTRASEN@BROCKVMA wrote:
>I am looking for PC products used for developing and
>maintaining mainframe COBOL applications.

    You might get better or more complete information on a PC list,
 but I'll tell you the little that I know.  I'm also assuming that
 the PC's in question are running DOS.

     SIMTEL and mirror sites list COBOL650 as the most current
 PC based COBOL compiler that runs under MSDOS.  It should give
 you most of what you want, but I haven't tried it.  There is
 also a new PC based 370 assembler and emulator that you may
 care to look at.  If you have TCP/IP, just FTP to the DEC
 WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil and get PD1:<MSDOS.COBOL>COBOL650.ZIP
 Since you have BITNET, you could also:

 TELL LISTSERV AT NDSUVM1 /PDGET BITSEND PD:<MSDOS.COBOL>COBOL650.ZIP
 TELL LISTSERV AT NDSUVM1 /PDGET BITSEND PD:<MSDOS.PGMUTL>PC370V42.ZIP

    The LISTSERV at RPIECS is also a U.S. mirror site.  In Europe
 there are 10 TRICKLE sites.  For other locations, there 3 other
 TRICKLE sites.  There are other methods to get the files.

    You will need BITRCV on VM to receive the files and PKZ110EU.EXE
 on your PC to explode the files.  If you would prefer UUENCODEd
 format files, leave out the 'BITSEND'.  You can UUDECODE them in
 VM with ARCUTIL or on the PC with UUEXE515.ZIP.  I recommend using
 VM for UUDECODEing if you have problems UUDECODEing on the PC.

    If you need any of the mentioned files, I would be happy to
 send them to any BITNET site.  All are available in archives.
 For a cute PC source editor, TELL LISTSERV AT BLEKUL11 GET TINYED ZIP
 It's in the OS2 filelist, but works in DOS for COBOL or other source.
 Warning:  I don't scan for viruses, but you might consider doing so.
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:29:00 PST
From:         Leonard D Woren <LDW@USCMVSA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Using IKJTSO00 for authorized pgms

On Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:18:25 EST, SOMITCW@VCCSCENT.BITNET said:
> ...
>  3. Put the program in SYS1.PARMLIB(IKJTSO00) under AUTHCMD, AUTHPGM,
>     or AUTHTSF as needed or all three to be safe.

I would recommend against that.  In particular, don't put *anything*
in AUTHTSF that wasn't specifically coded with security in mind, and
the intent that it would be invoked via TSR.  Otherwise you may have
a security exposure.  This is why AUTHTSF was separated out from
AUTHPGM a few years ago.  I will not describe the security exposure
here.

/Leonard
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:50:30 CST
From:         Darren Evans-Young <DARREN@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: problem opening a vsam file

On Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:31:07 EST <SOMITCW@VCCSCENT> said:
>
>    Your student has defined the PATH before the load.
> Suggested order is:
>
> 1.  DEFINE CLUSTER
> 2.  REPRO or load the data.
> 3.  DEFINE AIX
> 4.  BLDINDEX
> 5.  DEFINE PATH

I use the order 1,2,3,5,4 with no problem.  The main thing is you
MUST do a BLDINDEX before you can start using the AIX.

Darren
From: MAB100T@ODUVM.BITNET (M Bauza)
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Subject: Upper/Lower Case Exit for CICS
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:44:00 GMT
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We run CICS 2.1.2 in MVS/ESA 4.2 amd we are looking for an exit to allow
upper and lower case transactions for a case tool project.  We have
checked the SHARE tape for CICS and were unable to find anything there.
Does anyone know of such an exit?  Please let me know. Thanks
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:21:20 EST
From:         Dennis Caffi <ASMIDCC@VM7CG.HQ.AF.MIL>
Subject:      PSF commands
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 I've got PSF V2.1 on MVS/ESA 4.2 running supporting a 4224 printer
under VTAM 3.3. We are going to add a 3820 shortly. I have some questions.


1.) Where can I find a list of all the PSF/MVS commands ?
2.) How do I bring PSF/MVS down (I am cnaceling it now) ?

  Thanks in advance for the help.

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Dennis Caffi                                IP: asmidcc@vm7cg.hq.af.mil
Senior MVS Systems Programmer
Grumman Data Systems / U.S. Air Force
Pentagon, Washington, D.C.
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 12:28:18 EST
From:         Bill Gruber <BIGCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: A-NET from Teubner & Associates

Look into the TNVT100 PACKAGE available from listserv at cunyvm.  It does
something similar for free.

From a VM system on BITNET you can just:

TELL LISTSERV AT CUNYVM SEND TNVT100 PACKAGE

Bill Gruber
City University of New York Computer Center
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:41:09 HNE
From:         Jean Bedard <ADMIN@VM1.ULAVAL.CA>
Subject:      GDDM 2 and PC3270

Has anyone got any problem when using GDDM (2.2) with the PC3270 emulation
program (old 3.00 version)? PC's had no problem with old GDDM 1.4, but now
we experience PROG756 messages, APL2 dumps to printer and comes up in
line mode, etc.
I first thought that this was a VTAM/SNA problem, but (after applying
PUT 9104 on VM/SP 6) our Macintoshes emulating 3270 through Netway-1000 now
work properly.
So the problem seems to be with PC using PC 3270 emulation program, but also
those using Net3270 from McGill University (both use the IBM emulation
card, though). Note that we have no problem with 'real' terminals, local or
SNA, and no problem with terminals emulated through the 7171 or TCP/IP.

Another almost-five-o'clock friday afternoon problem...


Jean Bedard, C.T.I., Universite Laval, Quebec, Canada
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(418) 656-3632                       Internet: admin@vm1.ulaval.ca
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:17:00 PST
From:         Gregory Plucinski 257508 <GRZES@PLWATU22.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: GDDM 2 and PC3270

> Has anyone got any problem when using GDDM (2.2) with the PC3270 emulation
> program (old 3.00 version)? PC's had no problem with old GDDM 1.4, but now
> we experience PROG756 messages, APL2 dumps to printer and comes up in
> line mode, etc.

  PC3270 ver 3.00 do not support Extended attribiute.
  it emulate simplest 3278 (ma be 3277 ?).

  may be it's your problem ?

Gregory
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 15:55:00 EST
From:         MPERRY%ALBM1@ALBNYDH2.BITNET
Subject:      VMBACKUP 5 vs. Syncsort's SYSBACK.

We are converting from VM HPO 5 to VM/ESA 1.1.1 and
need to replace our dasd backup product, VMBACKUP release 5.

We have heard that Syncsort's SYBACK product is much faster than
VMBACKUP at backing up and restoring dasd.

Does anyone have firsthand experience with comparing VMBACKUP to
SYBACK in an environment with 3380 and 3390 dasd backed up on 3480
cartridges?

Since I am not a member of this list, please reply privately
to MPERRY@ALBM1.

                                  TIA

Mike Perry, Assoc. Computer Programmer/Analyst, NYS Dept. of Transp.,
Albany, NY, (518)457-5575.
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:18:25 EST
From:         SOMITCW@VCCSCENT.BITNET
Subject:      Using IKJTSO00 for authorized pgms

 On Wed, 11 Nov 1992 11:23:10 EST, A024021@RUTVM1 wrote:
> I am writing a program for use on TSO, which needs to be authorized.
>This is so it can do an ACF2 call.  I have looked at IKJTSO00 and am
>a little confused on how to fill it in.
>If module A calls B and B calls C and C is the one that needs to be
>authorized, do I just add C to the list or do I have to  do A, B and C?
>Which list is it, the AUTHPGM, authorized program list or is it
>AUTHTSF, the APF-authorized program list?  It is executing out
>of a APF'ed STEPLIB. (I would pick AUTHTSF, but what does AUTHPGM mean?)

    I'm not a TSO expert, but here is how I believe that it works.
 If the program is executed as a TSO command ( like TIME, LISTBC,
 HELP ) and you need it authorized, use AUTHCMD.  If you call the
 program ( like CALL 'SYS1.LINKLIB(IEBCOPY)' ) and you need it
 authorized, use AUTHPGM.  If your program is running under another
 program that has TSO/E call your program, use AUTHTSF.

    To be APF authorized in TSO:
 1. Link-edit the top program with an authorization code of 1.
    If the top program uses the CALL macro, it is equivalent
    to a BAL to the second program.  MVS will not intercept a
    machine instruction or its return to play with the
    authorization bit in the JSCB.  A LINK macro is processed
    with an MVS Supervisor Call but MVS will still not change
    APF authorization.  I believe that there are options on
    the ATTACH and SYNCH macros to change authorization but I
    have never used the macros to change authorization.

 2. If you use STEPLIBs in TSO ( a no no ), make sure all libraries
    in the concatenation are APF authorized.

 3. Put the program in SYS1.PARMLIB(IKJTSO00) under AUTHCMD, AUTHPGM,
    or AUTHTSF as needed or all three to be safe.
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:36:00 PST
From:         Leonard D Woren <LDW@USCMVSA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: STORAGE BELOW 16M LINE

On Wed, 11 Nov 1992 11:18:42 IST,
   Doron Shikmoni <P85025@BARILVM.BITNET> said:
> I may be missing something (I joined this thread in the middle). However:

The discussion started on JES2-L, and I suggested that it belonged here
instead.

> Of course page 0 is prefixed. Even on native MVS (non VM) machines, page 0
> is prefixed (prefix register, remember). This is over and above DAT, as the

Right.  Except that on a uniprocessor, I thought that MVS doesn't
bother with prefixing because there's no need.

But when I was running MVS/SP 1.3 under VM/SP R3 (or was it HPO R3?)
in a 4M V=R area, LRA on page 0 returned an address outside of what
MVS saw as it's real storage.  So VM (that version, anyway) may not
have done virtual prefixing in a nice manner.  Did VM/SP R3 support
multiprocessors?  If not, then it may not have had any code to do
prefixing, and used this trick when dispatching the V=R guest to allow
it to store into it's PSA.  I don't really understand what was going
on, and I presented it more as a counter-example to a claim that LRA
would never return an address greater than the real storage size.

/Leonard
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 09:16:05 EST
From:         Dennis Caffi <ASMIDCC@VM7CG.HQ.AF.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Do you know any quick and easy way to transfer files
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              12 Nov 1992 15:59:06 GMT from <Wool-D@YAP.LAS.UIUC.EDU>

On Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:59:06 GMT Woolbert 2 said:
>I need to transfer a lot of files between two PS/2 computers. they are
>not connected to any network.
>
>If you happen to know some quick and easy way to transfer files between
>PCs, please let me know.  I would appreciate very much your time and help!
>
>
>- Li li
>
  You can use Kermit on both PCs and connect them with a null modem cable.

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Dennis Caffi                                IP: asmidcc@vm7cg.hq.af.mil
Senior MVS Systems Programmer
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:22:07 EST
Comments:     Converted from PROFS to RFC822 format by PUMP V2.2X
From:         David Ehresman <DEEHRE01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject:      ISPF/PDF 3.4 Logon Proc

The Program Directory for ISPF/PDF 3.4 includes a sample logon proc
which contains a "//ISRLDUMY DD DUMMY" statement.  I can't seem to
find a reference to this DD in the documentation.  Can anyone point
me to the right manual?  And/or tell me what this DD is for?

***************************************************************
*David Ehresman, University of Louisville, (502) 588-5224
*Bitnet:DEEHRE01@ULKYVM Internet:DEEHRE01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:31:29 EST
From:         maurerm@VNET.IBM.COM
Subject:      jcl conversion
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Subject: jcl conversion

FROM: Max M. Maurer                 MCR Lab: +1 914 435-5724
      Dept Y02A/D91G                      Tie line: 295-5724
      Poughkeepsie, NY        Internet: MAURERM@VNET.IBM.COM
The MVS IPO offering includes such an aid called IPOUPDTE. (Or at least that
is what it was called when I used it many years ago. I understand they still
ship something like this.) This program is specifically designed to customize
the JCL that IPO ships to install MVS to local standards. This sounds like
exactly the thing you would need. When I was systems programming, I kept a
copy of this around for just such "other" product installations and found that
it helped quite a bit.

MxM    Where the thought for the day is:
Assumptions during planning are exposures during execution.
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 11:00:50 HNE
From:         Jean Bedard <ADMIN@VM1.ULAVAL.CA>
Subject:      Re: GDDM 2 and PC3270

>> Has anyone got any problem when using GDDM (2.2) with the PC3270 emulation
>> program (old 3.00 version)? PC's had no problem with old GDDM 1.4, but now
>  PC3270 ver 3.00 do not support Extended attribiute.
>  it emulate simplest 3278 (ma be 3277 ?).
>  may be it's your problem ?
No, because GDDM 1.4 did work. We don't need extended attribute; GDDM is used
solely here for the Session Manager function of APL (VSAPL and APL2); people
with PC3270 EP use a program written in APL, but they don't need the APL
character set.


Jean Bedard, C.T.I., Universite Laval, Quebec, Canada
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(418) 656-3632                       Internet: admin@vm1.ulaval.ca
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:04:23 CST
From:         Larry Holder <##09@UTMARTN.BITNET>
Subject:      Do you know any quick and easy way to transfer files

> I need to transfer a lot of files between two PS/2 computers. they are
> not connected to any network.
> If you happen to know some quick and easy way to transfer files between
> PCs, please let me know.  I would appreciate very much your time and help!

You might try using BACKUP and RESTORE.  It will be simplest if the
files are at least temporarily in the same subdirectory (you could
create a "dummy" subdirectory for this purpose).  Be sure to review
the syntax of backup and restore in your DOS manual.

Larry Holder,  Sr. Programmer/Analyst            Bitnet: ##09@UTMARTN
The University of Tennessee at Martin            Phone:  901-587-7890
Martin, TN  38238                                Fax:    901-587-7841

VM/ESA 1.0, VSE/ESA 1.1, CICS/VSE 2.1, COBOL2, DL/I, SQL/DS, QMF
CICS monitor: Landmark TMON, VSAM compression: Legent EXTEND/DASD
PSW (Personal Status Words): Saved by grace (Romans 1:16 & 8:38)
From: SIPUSIC@GUVM.BITNET (Thomas Sipusic)
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Subject: Re: MVS Performance
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:48:37 GMT
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              12 Nov 1992 10:55:21 PST from <RYERSONRA@COMPCTR.CCS.CSUS.EDU>

At Georgetown University, we have 3 people involved with systems
programming. They do tuning when time permits or when performance
becomes a problem. No performance specialists. No outside help except
perhaps for some occasional advice from the local IBM large system
specialist.
From: SOMITCW@VCCSCENT.BITNET
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Subject: Re: STORAGE BELOW 16M LINE
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:05:07 GMT
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 On Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:36:00 PST, LDW@USCMVSA wrote:
>Right.  Except that on a uniprocessor, I thought that MVS doesn't
>bother with prefixing because there's no need.

    When we ran MVS/SP 1.3.6 on a uniprocessor, it still did
 PREFIXing.  It may have been because we coded the ACR CODE YES
 in the stage 1 to be compatible with DUAL processors.
 I believe VM/SP works the same way.

>But when I was running MVS/SP 1.3 under VM/SP R3 (or was it HPO R3?)
>in a 4M V=R area, LRA on page 0 returned an address outside of what
>MVS saw as it's real storage.  - - -

    Yes, VM is sneaky.  When you have a V=R area, VM has to define
 the lowest address in the machine to the V=R area.  You couldn't
 expect MVS to have what it sees as real storage to start somewhere
 in the middle of memory.  Your 4 meg V=R area took the first 4 meg
 of real memory.  VM must have the real ( and also the absolute )
 page zero.  The real OLD/NEW PSWs and interrupts are in real page
 zero, the VM trace table pointers are in the absolute page zero.
 The way VM resolves the conflict is to keep absolute page zero
 and map the V=R page zero to be immediately after the 4 meg V=R
 area.  V=R page 1 through 4 meg are really V=R.  V=R page zero
 is not really V=R.  This causes at least one restriction when
 using V=R,  MVS or any other operating systems running V=R cannot
 do any I/O to page zero after you SET NOTRANS ON.
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From: TCSMAINT@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU (Tim Stoodt)
Subject: MVS and AIX on an ES9000?
Organization: Northwestern University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:29:51 GMT

Hello, I have a couple of questions about ES9000's.
 
1. Do many sites use PR/SM to run MVS/ESA and AIX together?
 
2. What is the AIX that runs on these machines, is it AIX/ESA?
 
3. We currently run VM/XA 2.1 on a IBM 4381 R24.  These users
   would be moved to AIX, anyone done this?  How painful is it?
   We have mostly SAS/SPSS users with lots of tapes, who like lots
   of DASD. A batch facility would also be needed.
 
4. Are there any advantages to keeping VM in the picture?  Would
   this allow more flexible partitioning or make it easier to
   migrate?  We could run AIX/ESA machines as guests of VM/ESA.
   (I guess my VM bias is showing on this one ;)
 
Thanks for any comments.  T.S.
From: RYERSONRA@COMPCTR.CCS.CSUS.EDU (Rob Ryerson)
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Subject: MVS Performance
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:55:21 GMT
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This is a general question, not a request for tools/software. Is
there a common thread for who does performance management/tuning?
Does the 'MVS' systems programmer standardly perform the function?
Do some shops have performance specalists, or possibly contract out
for the function? I realize there could be significant polititcal
aspects to this question, but I'm looking for technical concepts.
Is this possibly a function of shop size, experience level of staff,
as to who does the work?
Rob Ryerson Cal State Univ. Sacramento
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