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From: sef@sef-pmax.slisp.cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: E-Mail smileys ... fame in our midst
Date: 4 Oct 92 04:58:24 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon


    From: JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL
    
    "Smileys started popping up on computer screens more than a decade ago.  The
    MIT Press's 'New Hackers Dictionary' attributes the very first smiley to a
    1980 message by a Carnegie Mellon computer scientist named SCOTT FAHLMAN"
    
Yeah, I'm the guilty party, though I only claim the original :-) and :-(
variations.  The other ten million smileys were made up by others.  Also,
as I told the reporter, I'm not real sure about the 1980 date -- it might
have been a bit earlier or later.

    They
    even published his lament on not having saved that historic first message.
    
    Scott.. don't you people practice safe computing at CM?, oh yea, 1980...
    pre-virus era.
    
We backed things up carefully, even then.  The original message is almost
certainly on a mag tape hidden away in an unused coal mine near Pittsburgh,
but since I don't remember the exact date, it would take a *lot* of
searching to find it.  And I think the tape can only be read on a Dec-20.
The last one of those on our campus was trucked off to some high school in
Guatemala about five years ago.  (The same place where old Moogs and
Oberheims go to die...)

The weird thing is that I've got several high-powered business tycoons in
my family.  I'm sort of the black sheep for going into something totally
impractical like AI research, but I'm the one whose name lands on the front
page of the WSJ, and for one of the sillier things I've ever done.  It's a
strange old world.  :-)

Just to make this relevant to RMS: Soon we'll all have the capability to
include little chunks of sound in E-mail.  Maybe we should run a contest to
see who can come up with the best SMILEY and FROWNY sounds.  Guess I should
borrow a DAT and go sample some laughing kookaburras and moaning walrusses
(walri?).  Actually, I think an animal-noise sample CD would be a big
seller.

-- Scott
===========================================================================
Scott E. Fahlman
School of Computer Science
Carnegie Mellon University
5000 Forbes Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15213

Internet: sef+@cs.cmu.edu
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From: ljnelson@unix.amherst.edu (Laird Nelson)
Subject: Re: Korg DSS1 keyboard/sampler/synthesizer
Organization: 3/4 Quartet
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:53:02 GMT

metlay (metlay@netcom.com) wrote:
: >And: two 500ms digital delays in the effect section.
: 
: How COULD I forget to mention these?! They are a large part of what
: makes the DSS so way-cool.
: 
Cool enough, in fact, that when I use mine at home, I usually forgo the extra
effects box.  The last feature, about which I still can't decide whether it's 
a cheesy feature slapped on at the last minute or not, is the wonderful ability
to draw your own synth wave with the data slider.  It's got to be one of the
easiest paths to self-satisfaction:

<click> "Draw Wave!"

{cue sound of frantically oscillating data slider; Laird screaming primally
in background} "WWAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHRRRRGGGHHHHHHHAAAUUUGGGHHH!!!!"

<click> "Done!"

{press key} FX: sound of AM radio tuned to a station coming in from Mozambique:
SCRREEESSSHHHHHKHKHKHKHKHKKXKXKXKXKHKHRKHKRKRRJRRJRJRHHHKKKKK

pause

"That was fun."

<click> "Draw Wave!"

LAiRD

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From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk (R Clement)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: EM reviews the Alesis ADAT... and loves it
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:42:01 GMT
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
Originator: ross-c@csparc12

In article <9209301527.AA00361@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL writes:
>
[Discussion of digital recording on]
>S-VHS and Hi-8mm (espec on evaporated metal tape), the fact remains that the
[deleted]
>format, but it probably is a sequential scan system where a PCM sample from
>track 1 enters the stream, followed by the same time sample form track 2, etc
>until you get to 8 (which seems to be the number of tracks supported by the
>helical scan formats).  Obviously, since these things are capable of working

I have used a Sony Hi-8 recorder to record sound (EVS900?). Interesting
thing was that it recorded 6 stereo tracks (i.e. 12 tracks) across the tape.
Admittedly this was only at 31.25Khz or whatever, but it worked fine on
half speed (long play mode). I'm pretty sure this was 16 bit.

I suspect 8 tracks of digital audio on a cassette is being conservative,
even at 48khz.

Cheers,

Ross-c
From: michael@NSMA.AriZonA.EdU (Michael S. Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: MIDI hookups
Date: 3 Oct 92 00:16:55 GMT
Reply-To: michael@NSMA.AriZonA.EdU (Michael S. Williams)
Organization: Center for Neural Systems, Memory, and Aging

I assume that you currently have the setup as such:

+-----+ in    thru +--------+
|     |<-----------| module |--->out  (n/a)
| Seq |out         +--------+
|     |----+         ^ in
+-----+    |         |
           v in      | out
      +-----------------+
      |   keyboard      |-------> thru (n/a)
      +-----------------+

This way, you play on the keyboard, it goes to the OUT into the module,
which will trigger the tone, and THRU to the sequencer, where it is
stored.

So, when you play back the sequencer, it goes OUT to the keyboard,
but doesn't get to the module.

If your keyboard can perform a software merge of its THRU with its
OUT (merge its IN with its OUT), then simply set that up on the keyboard.

Otherwise, short of swapping the OUT and THRU cables of the keyboard
to the module each time you want to record and playback, you will
need to merge (via hardware) the keyboards OUT and THRU.

The keyboard/module section would then appear as:

          thru +--------+in   +-------+
          <----| module |<----| merge |<--+
               +--------+     +-------+   |
                                ^         |
          -----+                |         |
               |                |         |
               V in         out |         | 
          +------------------------+      |
          |     keyboard           |------+
          +------------------------+ thru


As far as the merger, you could get something like the Anatek Pocket Merger
for under $100, or you could invest in a patch bay, if your rig is eventually
going to get more complicated.

Hope that helps
michael

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From: haynes@cs.unca.edu (Houston Haynes)
Subject: Yamaha SY99 for sale - $3000.00 + shipping
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:40:53 GMT

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From: bohdan.kiszczuk@rose.com (bohdan kiszczuk)
Subject: Sound Quest's MIDI Qu
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 22:43:32 GMT
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Date Entered: 09-26-92 17:37

K > From: kan@bugs-bunny.rtp.dg.com (Victor Kan)
K > Subject: Sound Quest's MIDI Quest 3.0 upgrade -- worth it?

K > Has anyone taken Sound Quest up on their upgrade offer for the new
K > MIDI Quest 3.0 universal librarian/editor?
K > 
    
I have MidiQuest 3.0

K > I have v2.1.3 for Windows and haven't figured it out yet (although I
K > haven't tried real hard).  Do their updated instrument profiles work
K > significantly better (VZ1 in particular)?  Does it include any way to
K > use a more readable font than the hideous default one?  Can it be
K > changed in the win.ini file?

Fonts haven't changed. I assume you're talking about the one that 
comes with MQ. It can't be changed in win.ini.

K > 
K > Is it worth the $35 it would cost me? stuff deleted....... 

Depends on how important Windows MME driver support is worth to you, 
sounds can be chosen using names not numbers in 
combi/multi/performance editors, desktop save/load is useful when 
doing a lot of library work (moving patches from banks to libraries) 
where you have a LOT of libraries open. The other new features (auto 
file extensions,auto directory etc) are not important to me. 
Enhancements to existing features such as the library functions I 
welcome.

If you can get it for $10, get it. 
K > Does the upgrade come with a new manual? stuff deleted.........

I don't know. I'm a beta tester for MQ.

K > Looking over the list of 3.0 enhancements (some of which are actually
K > part of 2.1x), some of the "new" features listed seem to be the same
K > feature reworded two or three different ways.  Basically, is this a
K > waste of money?
K > 
stuff deleted..................
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From: <ATONI@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Korg DSS1 keyboard/sampler/synthesizer
 <BvKEu0.EEp@news.cso.uiuc.edu>

Hi,
On the DSS1 it is also possible to have additive synthesis with 128 harmincs
but without any envelope assignment.
It has a very nice VCF and since programming for the panel is a real pain
there is even a complet editor for the ATARI ST series from PA-decoder !!
Anybody knows from who to get RAM and SCSI expansion nowdays ???
Here in Holland the price for a non-upgraded one is ~1200 $ (second hand of
course).
I'm also very tempted because is the only sampler (bi-sampler OSC1/OSC2 !)
that has a complete and powerful post-processing analog session.
But is big and heavy as Mike said, and I'm still confused between an AKAYS950
and the DSSS1
NOTE: DO not buy the DSM1 rack version it is a sadly cannibalized version
of the DSSS1 .. One OCS only and the VCF has no resonance (what a wasted .. !)
Concerning bit I believe that 12 or 16 is not as important as the quality
of the pre-post analog part of a Sampler (LPF filters etc .. )
The S950 sound perfect to me !!
Ciao

Andrea TONI     ATONI@ESTEC.ESA.NL        ENV   ENV   ENV
-------------------------------------------I-----I-----I----------------
.. Bellezza e' semplicita' e modestia ..  VCO-->VCF-->VCA-->DUCATI 900SS
-------------------------------------------I-----I-----I----------------
                                          LFO   LFO   LFO
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From: galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers,alt.emusic,rec.music.industrial
Subject: For Sale:  FZ-1 Sampler for best offer > $600 ... last chance
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:50:02 GMT
Reply-To: galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter)
Organization: New York University

OK...I am going to give folks on the net one more chance to deprive a used  
gear dealer of a profit...I am hoping for $700 and I will pay shipping,  
but will take the best quick deal over $600 that gets here before the end  
of next week...else a dealer gets it...e-mail address follows...

Here are the prices being asked for these on the net quoted from Ken  
Shirriff's summary postings:

Casio FZ-1 sampler		900,950,1100,1200

Here is a description:

Casio FZ-1   -  From Casio's _Pro_ (not toy/consumer) division.
		8 voice multi-timbral sampler w/ keyboard and floppy drive
               16 bit sampling, up to 36Khz sampling rate
	       (CD Quality sound unless you are a dog :^) )
	       includes MB-10 Memory expansion (many sold as used do not) 
	       Can sample up to 29.1 seconds of sound at full fidelity
	       1 mixed output and 8 mono-outputs  
	       (great for percussion/industrial)
	       
	       Used only in home studio.  Original carton.
	       Excellent condition, except for slightly cloudy LCD 	 
               display that does not hinder its use.
       
	       Will also supply some HD sample disks 
	       and 3rd party FZ-1 book

	       Large library of samples available free from a co-op
               (provide your own disks...see ad in back of Keyboard)

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Philip Galanter         New York University        
Research Associate      251 Mercer                  
Academic Computing      New York, NY 10012     internet: galanter@nyu.edu
 
   O f f i c e   o f   A r t s   &   M e d i a   T e c h n o l o g i e s
From: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: MIDI Songs.....
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:18:19 GMT
Reply-To: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) says:

>
>In article <1992Oct3.120324.16297@comp.lancs.ac.uk> (rec.music.synth), davei@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr D Ingles) writes:
>> 
>> In article <1ahttiINNb8t@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.) writes:
>> 
>> OK, how about this.  How can anyone tell if a composition is yours, or
>> if it has been copied off someone else ? 
>> 
>> If we think about it for a moment, there are very few notes in a musical
>> scale.  Also, anybody who has studied music, will probably notice that
>
>What many people fail to understand is that risking a law suit is
>pretty stupid and can cost you a lot.  In order to argue your point
>it would have to be in a court room only after you spend bucks on
>your attorney.  Besides reading the copyright law which I just posted
>about how easy it is and how to get it...it's just plain stupid to
>play cat and mouse games with copyright infringement.  Even if found
>not gulity by the court you still have a lot of costs.  It's been
>said that we have the finest legal system in this country for those
>who can afford it.
>

WHOOPS! There's a bit of messed-up attributation here! The above quoted
statements are NOT mine, they belong to Mr. Ingles!

_I_ know better!
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From: smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:18:19 GMT
Subject: Re: What about "classical" sounds?
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

dpelton@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dennis Pelton) writes:

>A while back, in keyboard, there was an article about a
>guy who sampled the "ultimate" string sample set.  He spent
>months and gigabytes of memory and will sell you the set 
>for something like $100,000.

This would be the "Denny Jaeger String Library."  Denny is a perfectionist
synthesist now living in L.A., I believe.  (He did the original "factory"
presets for the now-dying Synclavier II, by the way.  I spent an interesting
day with Denny in 1980, auditioning the yet-to-be-released SII for the
theatre company I was involved in.  (In spite of the fact that they actually
added some features which we requested, we didn't buy one.  Just too much
bux!) One of those presets was the gong sound used at the beginning of
Michael Jackson's "Thriller" album.)

There ARE cheaper subsets of this sample library available as well.  They're
advertised in Keyboard.

Anyway, when I need to do imitative orchestral tracks (usually for theatrical
music), I've found that I get the best results by starting with a sampled
sound, and then using a synthesizer (usually my ESQ-1) layered with it. I
design a sound on the synth that is the "variable" parts of the sound, and
muck with the sample parms (particularly the envelopes and filtering, if
the sample box has filtering) to get the kind of expressiveness I need.  I
also usually do more than one setup like this for each class of instrument.
I also use a lot of volume, aftertouch and velocity tweaking.

The funny thing is, even with all this effort, I also plan on not actually
ending up accurately imitating a real set of instruments, but rather just
"evoking" that instrument as well I can.  I just know that if I try my best,
then it will at least sound, uh, "nice" to the audience.  My goal isn't
actually to imitate an orchestra so much as to create a mood in the audience,
anyway.

Pay close attention to the use of effects/ambience, and orchestration as well,
for best effect.

Hey now everybody now,                     Jim Smith
Hey now everybody,                         smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com
Hey now everybody, now.  -- They Might Be Giants
From: amanda@INTERCON.COM (Amanda Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: PB100/MIDI works? SOS!!!!
Date: 1 Oct 92 17:20:26 GMT

wang@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Charles Wang 3740) writes:
> Please all experts on the
> 	net that have had it worked post your experiences a little bit
> 	more specificly.

Well, here's my setup:

Hardware:

	Apple PowerBook 100 4/40
	Opcode MIDI Translator
	Yamaha FB-01 (2)
	Alesis Quadraverb

Software:

	Apple MIDI Manager 2.0.1
	Passport PRO 4.5.3

The MIDI adapter is plugged into the printer port, and AppleTalk is turned 
off.  It works fine--what more can I say?  I have had problems with software 
that doesn't use the MIDI manager (like an old shareware FB-01 patch editor), 
but everything else I've tried that uses the MM works great.


Hope this helps,

Amanda Walker
InterCon Systems Corporation


From: smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:25:27 GMT
Subject: Re: Clavinet Example (was: Re: Keyboard feel (was: Re: CZ101 for sale)
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
From: pms26964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (CS223 GRADER)
Subject: Re: MIDI Songs.....
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:10:35 GMT
Keywords: MIDI

If the MIDI file was made by someone on the net just "playing by ear" and
sharing the file with others, is it really copyright infringement if he just
posts it to the net?  He's not getting paid to do this.  It's like recording
a remake or parody on a 4-track and passing tapes around...no big deal, I 
don't think.

However, if the MIDI file was arranged by a commercial company such as Tychro
Tunes, the story would be different.  It's software piracy.

-Phil

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* Phil Scopes (pms26964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)
* University of Illinois
* Champaign/Urbana
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel)
Subject: Re: SCSI Interface for S-550
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:41:08 GMT

Murat N. Konar (murat@farallon.com) wrote:
> Anyone know if one can still get a SCSI interface for Roland's S550 sampler
> and if so where, how much, etc.
> 
> Murat N. Konar                                            

I think you can still get them new.  I think the part is HD5/IF,
or something like that.  You can call Roland at (213)685-5141, or
one of the major music mail-order places, like maybe Rhythm City
(404)237-9552.  It probably costs about $300.


Larry
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: apeltone@smtplink.oulu.fi (Antti Peltonen)
Subject: Re: Gravis (PC) soundcard
Organization: ATK-keskus
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 06:42:47 GMT

Hello,

I don't have Gravis Ultrasound (but i have ordered one).

Conserning Synths. there is MIDI and ENSONIQ chip on gravis
- sorry, i don't remember the type.

This sould be tell something for potential of the card 
(price is well under $200).

I hope somebody who has the card and/or comparable Ensoniq
synth will tell us more about it.

-Antti-

apeltone@smtplink.oulu.fi
From: vps@vincent.dsto.gov.au (Vincent)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Cubase for Windows 1.0 & MIDIATOR MS101 Driver Problem
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:51:21 GMT
Reply-To: vps@vincent.dsto.gov.au
NNTP-Software: PC/TCP NNTPLines: 10

Has anybody else experienced problems with the MS101 driver that comes
with Cubase for Windows 1.0 ?

Basically the driver does not work at all on my laptop.

Note : I have been trying to get Steinberg to respond to my problem now
       for over 3 weeks.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: kan@bugs-bunny.rtp.dg.com (Victor Kan)
Subject: Sound Quest's MIDI Quest 3.0 upgrade -- worth it?
Summary: lots'o questions, is it worth the money?
Date: 25 Sep 92 15:08:52
Distribution: rec
Reply-To: kan@dg-rtp.dg.com
Organization: Program Development Environments, Data General Corp., RTP, NC

Has anyone taken Sound Quest up on their upgrade offer for the new
MIDI Quest 3.0 universal librarian/editor?

I have v2.1.3 for Windows and haven't figured it out yet (although I
haven't tried real hard).  Do their updated instrument profiles work
significantly better (VZ1 in particular)?  Does it include any way to
use a more readable font than the hideous default one?  Can it be
changed in the win.ini file?

Is it worth the $35 it would cost me?  I bought it on 6/11/92, so if I
had waited three more weeks to get a program I haven't used very much
anyway, I could get this upgrade for $10, but that's another story.

Does the upgrade come with a new manual?  The old one is really very
generic and barely mentions the Windows version at all (which looks
and feels like a quick/cheap port of a DOS program).  Judging by the
pictures, they're still using their own simple, unhelpful help system
rather than the much more readable and usable Windows help app.

Looking over the list of 3.0 enhancements (some of which are actually
part of 2.1x), some of the "new" features listed seem to be the same
feature reworded two or three different ways.  Basically, is this a
waste of money?

e.g.

New General Features

1) Desktop Save/Load - new Desktop files store a list of all open
program windows

2) Desktop files store screen positions and sizes and window contents

3) A complete desktop can be stored and retrieved at a later time

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