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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:08:33 EST
From: <JMC162@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Barry Allen Is Back!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes!  It's about time.  Barry Allen is back in the newest edition of Flash.
He comes home for Christmas and it is a total shocker to me.  I've been
reading Flash for years and I can't believe it.  It's the best thing that
has happened to DC since they axed Superman (very sarcastic, I liked Supes).
I hope that they add him to Justice League America.  They could use the
leadership.  Comments?

Joe C.
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Date: Tuesday, 15 Dec 1992 12:33:14 EST
From: <AERE7114@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: McFarlane's art
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NONONONONONONO!!!Tick #12 isn't out yet!!Holy Cow! (now, yes, Man-Eating
Cow did come out last week).Holy!You mention the word Tick and you get a
flock of letters from fans asking you Tick questions.At least it means that
there are people who know about the comic.  All of my friends don't know what
the hell I'm talking about. The Tick #12 should be out this week or next week.
Here's a synopses of the story.
  (Julian, you already read this part skip down a couple o' lines.)
  (sorry, folks. Inside joke)
From Comics etc.#22..."In "One Man's Treasure is Also Another Man's Treasure"
The Tick, still beaming in the wake of his decisive victory over Barry
(formerly known as The Tick) reaps the rewards that the Super Hero by laws
 insit upon in circumstances like these: in other words, The Tick gets all of
Barry's stuff!Writing and pencils by Edlund, inking by Whiting.
There also ad for 'The Tick Triple Poster Deal'
(Wait, Julian! You haven't read this yet! Wait! WWWaaaaaiii............)
(Yet another inside joke)
It reads:  'Three 2ft. X 1/2 ft. full colour posters on heavy 80lb. glossy
stock. Art by Edlund. Each poster measures a big 2 feet be 1/12 feet and
capture pertinent and poignant if not momentous moments in the life of
Edlund's Azure Avenger and his pals.  You'll get Omnibus Bus poster, the
Nightmare Buildings poster, and the Typical Day on the Lower East Side poster
for less than $3.00 (Canadian?)!$8.95.(It's 3 bucks each, Total is $8.95)
So now you Tick fans can go out and dash to the comic store to buy these
Tick paraphanalia.
Check six.
Paul
(The Great White North.'Help! I'm melting!YEEEAaaaarrrr......'Famous last
words of a snowman.sigh!)

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From: ast2r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Andrew Symons Troth)
Subject: Re: DC: Ace the Bathound!
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 15:50:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.090907.874@midway.uchicago.edu> lf7z@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>He's back!  The Dark Hound Returns!  Just when you thought it was safe
>to go back into the pound...  No, really, it's true.  Hey, I thought
>they were just joking, too.  But there he is, big as life, in Shadow
>of the Bat 9.  It was a rather non-descript return though, actually.
>OK, so it was downright boring, but it could have been worse.  With
>
>Kala Christogenou, Joyeux Noel, Frohe Weihnachten, etc.
>   ex machina, mais naturlich
>Glenn, still mixing his languages a tad too dry (hic!)
>......................................................................
>"All right, Ace.  It's up to you now, pal!"
>   --- Robin!
>"Aarf!"
>   --- Ace, or maybe it was Sandy.  They all look the same to me.
>......................................................................

Actually, Ace was re-introduced in the Batman title a couple of years ago.
Mostly he hangs around with Harold in the Cave. They've been keeping him
rather low-profile, which I like, because although it's nice to see him
occasionally, just how often is a dog *really* useful to Batman? I wouldn't
want Ace to become Batman's answer to Wesley Crusher and rush in to save the
day every issue :).

cheers,
	ast
From: aa396@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill Henley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Dr. Strange -- showing improvement
Date: 15 Dec 1992 23:53:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Anyone have an opinion on the last couple of issues of DR.
STRANGE (#48-49) by Kaminski & Isherwood?  I picked them up
and was pleasantly surprised-- they were the first Marvel comics
I've read in a couple or three years, other than Peter David's
HULK, which really caught my interest and made me eager to see
what happens in the next issue.  I've been a DR. STRANGE fan
since the Lee/Ditko days, but I had been dissatisfied with the
title since Roger Stern quit writing it, and finally gave it
up when Roy & Dann Thomas' stint turned out to be a disapoint-
ment-- Roy's original run on STRANGE was classic, but his
plotlines this time were uninspired, and I couldn't get used
to Doc's being scripted as a slang-slinging sorcerous stand-up
comic.  

In these issues however, Doc is acting and talking more like
himself again, and the events of the story are surprising
yet logical in terms of the series' past history (Doc being
forced to renounce most of his past powers as all those
beings he's called on for help for years call in their
markers).  I'm now anxious to get #50 and see what kind
of powers he has left (not that his abilities were ever
all that well defined in the first place) and, of course,
how he'll deal with the return of Dormammu.

It's nice to see a little evidence that not everyone
working for Marvel these days is a complete hack.

-- 
Bill Henley, Assistant Sysop, Cleveland Free-Net Science Fiction
& Fantasy SIG (aa396)
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From: andy@hpsmo100.rose.hp.com (Andy Young)
Subject: Re: Favorite Artists?
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 15:34:31 GMT
Organization: Nosferatu U.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

A couple of my favorites are:

Joe Quesada, Dave Sim, Todd McFarlane(sorry, but I like it :-)
Mike Grell, Frank Miller, sheesh, I could go on all day :)

--
Andy.

andy@hpsmo100.rose.hp.com	Hewlett Packard	- Support Materials Operation
TSN: AndyY, Box 24491           8050 Foothills Blvd, Roseville, CA 95678
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From: lsmith@mega.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Funeral for a Friend Funny
Organization: Observant Squids of the Poor
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:50:13 GMT

This was a good week for funny books. Stanley and His Monster, Slapstick,
Flaming Carrot and I even got my Sam and Max cloisonne' pins. (Very nice
pins, well worth the money. Buy yours today.)

However, my favorite gag came from a strange source. In Superman : The
Man of Steel #20, there's a scene where Lex Luthor: The Next Generation
is surrounded by people trying to sell him funeral wares for the upcoming
Superburial. One pamphlet prominently displayed says:

           "Wm. Gaines Crypt Builder"

I think Gaines would have liked that.

-----------------------------
  Lance "Cr2O3.2H2O" Smith  | "Yes, the newspapers were right: snow was general
    (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)     |  all over the South. It was falling on all of the
    Feeling just slightly   |  empty peanut fields and softly upon the Planter	
  better than Michael Furey |  factory."        James Joyce's _The Peanuts_
From: morpheus@cco.caltech.edu (Kynn Bartlett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Newbies
Date: 14 Dec 1992 20:45:09 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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A quick note.

Usenet is not a 'bboard'.

Sheesh, newbies.

				--Kynn
From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: DC: The Dark (was Re: Sandman, Hellblazer, and Hell
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:00:20
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
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In-reply-to: mkelly@bronte.helios.nd.edu's message of Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:05:11 GMT

mkelly@bronte.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly) writes:
| mfterman@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Mutant for Hire) writes:
||> tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:
||> >Well, I e-mailed Jaques with my version of this answer, and
||> >didn't think to post it, so here's my bit for the net.  From what
||> >I understand from the recent Hellblazer issues, Satan is the 
||> >ther other side of the coin to God.  He was already in Hell when
||> >the Morningstar fell.  Hell had to exist, becasue Heaven needs a shadow.
||> 
||> Wrong. Read old Swamp Thing issues written by Alan Moore. The Dark is
||> God's shadow, the reverse side of Himself. He could not exist without
||> the Dark and vice versa. The Dark is much more powerful than anyone
||> including Lucifer.

|How can you folks be discussing the "Dark" from American Gothic and not even
|*try* to spoil what *really* happenned?



|After the Dark goes on it's little rampage taking out various DC super-mystics
|(including the Spectre) it learns from Swamp Thing that there is much more to
|existence than black and white, good and evil, light and dark. So the Dark and
|the Light join. Cain and Abel then make some comment about how this is going to
|change all the stories, now that there is no clear-cut good and evil anymore,
|which (IMHO) was Alan Moore winking to the audience about the future of
|comic books.

More precisely, Abel notes this and Cain tell shim to shut up and stop
worrying, they'll manage somehow.  Had to be one of the better
designed anti-climaxes I've ever read.
--
Peace.
               "Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitude"
                                   -\--/-
    Don't just adopt opinions     |  \/  |       Some of you are homeboys
          develop them.           |  /\  | but only I am The Homeboy From hell
                                   -/--\-
From: gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Why is PAD on the net?
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:23:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec17.162306.27332
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Dec17.142447.522@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>In article <71830@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>>I once had a few fellow pros over at my house, and I mentioned Usenet to
>>them.  They were interested in seeing it.  So I logged on and started
>>running through various headers.  Naturally the people involved wanted
>>to read about those headers that applied directly to their own work.
>>The threads were, almost uniformly, vicious, sniping, mean-spirited and
>>arrogant.  
>>Oddly enough, no one in that group was interested in opening up their
>>own account.
>Would it be asking too much for some of the names of these people?

	Yes.

	Unless you want to know the names of who to suck up to.

-- 
Roger Tang, gwangung@u.washington.edu
Producer Emeritus, Asian Theatre at the UW
	"The definition of balls is for a non-singer to go karaoke singing
with the cast of a musical revue."
From: carlf@panix.com (Carl Fink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Annotated Stanley & His Monster #1
Date: 21 Dec 92 05:22:51 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC


  Re the name "Ott", I've just noticed in _Buck Godot:  Zap Gun for Hire_ 
a scene in which Buck walks past a store called "Mr Ott's of Luna",
which sells something or other (you can't tell from the window display).

  Another fannish reference in BG: ZGfH:  one of the X-Tel executives 
mentioned is named "Soukup" after San Francisco fan Martha Soukup 
(a GEnie sysop).


-- 
Carl Fink          carlf@panix.com, C.FINK4(GEnie), or CF427620I@LIUVAX.BITNET
  "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our
  inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter
  the state of facts and evidence"     --      John Adams
From: mkelly@bronte.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: DC: Sandman and Daniel
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:22:38 GMT
Reply-To: mkelly@bronte.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame


Speculation on the role of Daniel in Sandman...

It is almost a universal assumption on the net that Daniel is going to somehow
become a replacement for the current incarnation of Dream. I personally think
this is a pretty stupid idea, so I thought I'd offer another role for dear
little Daniel Hall to play in the Sandman Mythos.

I think that he should die. Before you think me bloodthirsty, hear me out. We
have seen that Dream considers Daniel to be his, since the child gestated for
so long in the Dreaming. We've also seen an attempt by Desire to screw hir
brother by tricking Dream into killing a relative of the Endless. So what if
Desire messes up and leads to the death of Daniel? 

Just pointless speculation on my part, but I'd *really* like to see what the
Kindly Ones can do to an Endless.

-- 
+               Mike Kelly, Notre Dame Department of Physics                +
+                                                                           +
+ mkelly@doc.helios.nd.edu          "The more you drive,                    + 
+ mkelly@undhe5.hep.nd.edu                 the less intelligent you are."   +
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From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Slapstick
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:16:18 GMT

kaloger@nmt.edu (Robert Kalogerakos) writes:
>I just got the first two issues of Slapstick and must say, I am a 
>bit confused.  It's hard to tell if this guy is suppost to be in the
>"What the..." Marble Universe or the Marvel Universe.  I love the consept,
>but I was hopeing he'd be more like Speedball from "The New Warriors"; silly
>and stupid but with serious problems to deal with.  Does anyone else
>see a future for "Slapstick"?

I hope so!  I'm not sure if they could keep up the pace with the writing
and references, however - in case you've missed the annotations,
they're rather large.  Examine every panel carefully.

So far, it's been 3 issues, and the 4th seems to be delayed...  I
definitely want to see more, maybe an occasional new miniseries now
and then.

And, I'm sorta glad he doesn't have any serious problems - the idea of
Slapstick with Marvel angst and grim'n'gritty just doesn't click...
-- 
Brigands will demand your money or your life, but a woman will demand both.
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From: cline@cs.scarolina.edu (Ernest Cline)
Subject: Re: Sandman - Old Gods
Reply-To: cline@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:56:19 GMT

moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime) writes:

|In <Byn43E.AxM@world.std.com> Alexx@world.std.com (Alexx S Kay) writes:
|>Maybe some gods and/or entire pantheons, seeing the decline of others as their
|>worshippers decreased, cleverly made long-term investments in secret societies,
|>mystery cults, and the like in order to keep their worship alive.  
|
|Oho!  *That* explains the Kiwanas, then.
|
|[But who influenced the Shriners to drive around in those little cars?]

Obviously Pharamond, god of Transportation :^)
-- 
Ernest Cline	cline@cs.scarolina.edu
From: xyzzy@imagen.com (David McIntyre)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Mylite/Mylar bags
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:38:58 GMT
Organization: IMAGEN

In article <1992Dec13.151931.8655@penet.fi> an1603@anon.penet.fi (Bastard Regiment) writes:
>If you know anyplace I can mail-order bulk mylites, or mylar bags for that
>matter, cheap, please email or post - I have a friend who is also interested,
>so we can cover it if we need to buy a huge amount.  Thanks a lot,

Yes.  Bill Cole Enterprises has Mylars and Mylites.  Call their order line
at 1-800-225-8249 to get their customer service #.  You can't get any more
info than that out of the recording.  They sell Mylites for $21/100.
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From: castle@cs.dal.ca (JULIAN GUTHRIE CASTLE)
Subject: Re: Writers vs Artists (Re: Prolific Writers) 
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 15:34:46 GMT

it's the "writers vs Artists" war again. All I have to say is:


MERCY!!  MERCY!!



thank you for your time
	Julian Castle  (thinking there was enough of it in
CBG to last a lifetime)
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From: pmm34393@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dr. Vincent Vaugn )
Subject: Re: Retcons and Dr. Doom (Re: Retcons: Marvel and DC)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:17:28 GMT
Keywords: marvel doom simonson byrne retcons

In article <1gg3f4INNmq5@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mikecap@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Vince Caprio Jr) writes:
>
>Actually, concerning the scarless man in Doom 2099 who professes to be Dr.Doom,
>I had kind of a thought.  Does anyone remember back around Secret Wars time, or
>perhaps a little before where Doc Doom had his conciousness transferred to some
>poor schmuck's body, who then killed his family or something.
>Anyhow, this poor fool was "destroyed" by an energy blast from the Beyonder
>(I think, if not then somebody please post and correct me, 'cause my memories
>are faulty during this period :)   ).  Now, I think it just might be possible
>that this new Doom is that guy!  After all, during his operation he had wierd
>flashbacks about memories that weren't his own, etc.  Should be interesting
>to see how they explain him.
>
>
>Mike C.  (Zen)

I don't think your memory is working too well... :)
Before Secret Wars, Doom's body was destroyed by a huge bolt of
cosmic energy. However, before this happened, he exchanged minds
with Norman MacArthur, a bystander. Presumably, Norm's mind died
with Vic's body. After Secret Wars, Doom called the Beyonder to 
re-create his original body. The Beyonder did so, sending Doom in
his new body back to the Secret Wars. Norm's mind was brought
back and put into his true body. 
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From: wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (August Paul Yang)
Subject: Re: Why is PAD on the net?
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:09:56 GMT

In article <1gr5ibINNpa2@mozz.unh.edu> mre@kepler.unh.edu (Santa MikE) writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.173155.12960@panix.com> spira@panix.com (Greg Spira) writes:
>>Anyway, if we had more pros we'd probably have to go through lots of "Is
>>Todd Comic-Book-Writer The Comic-Book Writer?" threads, just like we have
>>to go through the "Is He The Peter David" thread a couple of times a year.
>
>
>And the "Is he THE Art Adams" thread, and the "Is he THE Kevin Maguire"
>thread, and...

"Is he THE Rick Jones..."

August Paul Yang couldn't resist
wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
From: appel@soda.Berkeley.EDU (Shannon D. Appel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Grendel War Child is boring
Date: 17 Dec 92 02:44:17
Organization: csua
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In-reply-to: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com's message of Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:36:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.123619.1@skcla.monsanto.com> jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com writes:
>2) There's a lot going on, it's just not obvious.  A few things I've noticed:
>    b) There's a lot more to this Grendel than meets the eye.  Initially he
>	looked merely quite tough, but there's a few hints in the latest issue
>	that he must be something more:  Someone says he must have one heck of
>	a power source to cross the ocean... several pages earlier he unplugs
>	the bike from his boot.  The bike plugged into the boot, not the other
>	 way 'round.

I got the idea some months ago that he might be a clone or some such
silliness of Orion himself.  Isn't it odd that we've neither seen his
face or heard his name yet?  Things like him knowing all the pass
codes in the first issue seem to support something like this.  And
then, there was the most odd reference in issue two "Just before his
death, your husband was overseeing an extremely secretive operation
that he refers to only as Project Athena.  Athena, you will recall,
was the ancient Greek Goddess who sprang from her father's side
without the benefit of a mother."  Things that make you go hmm.

Shannon

Organization: Materials Science and Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 11:31:39 -0500 
From: James William Stepanek <js43+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: RPG stats for Supes

From: jkent@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (John Kent (History?))

>What I would really like is for someone who has the Role Playing
>stats on Superman to Post them or email them to me.  Marvel came
>out with Stats for a role playing game for their Heroes.  Those
>stat books really helped to understand the Hero.

Well this is going to have to be from memory.
the stats are from DC HEROES RPG

Pre-Byrne Superman
dex 26    str 50    body 40( this row is all I am sure of)
int 24    will 15    mind 14
infl 12    aura 10    spirit 10

Powers:
Flight 45 , superspeed 26 , x-ray vision 18,invulnerability 50,
microscopic vision 18, ect ...
(I don't think you need to know about super-ventriliquism and super
breath ect..)

Post Byrne Superman(first numbers)
dex 22    str 35    body 26 ( I won't bother with the other stat rows
cause they are rather trivial and I can't recall them offhand)
Powers:
Flight 18, superspeed 15 , invulnerability 30, ect..

Post Byrne Superman (latest numbers)
dex 18     str 25    body 20

Powers:
Flight 15, Superspeed 12, invulnerability 25, ect...

Well the numbers are rather uninformantive unless you know the system.
The system works on a logarythmic scale in which when an attribute goes
up ten points the value increases by a thousand. It is fairly well
approximated by log base 2. A normal human has stats of 2, a trained
athlete can get physical stats of 4, Batman has
dex 10    str 5    body 6
Thus the present Superman(RIP) has the strength of a million Batmen(who
is, of course, essentialy the peak of human perfection)
The speed relation for flight, superspeed, ect is some think like the
base is moving at 2.5 feet per second and you multipy up from there. The
speed of sound is at about 11 points. On the invulnerability front,
typical guns are of effect 5, cannons about 12, and nukes about 30.
Thus you can see that Superman has has his strength and invulnerabilty
square -rooted in recent years.
Well hopes this helps you understanding.
James Stepanek
esp
Graduate Student 
Department of Materials Science and Engineering
University of Pittsburgh
Disclaimer : If Pitt knew I still used my CMU account they probably
wouldn't understand. 
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