HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: potler@umbc4.umbc.edu (Laura Potler (GSFC))
Subject: Re: Blueberry pie
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:05:08 GMT

>In article <1992Aug14.201132.9008@cs.yale.edu> elliott-bruce@CS.YALE.EDU (Alex Elliott) writes:
>>The peeve?  I didn't put enough corn starch in the filling.  When I
>>cut the first piece, the filling oozed out of the rest of the pie in an
>>effort to heal its wound, looking much like a purple slime-like 
>>extraterrestrial organism from a B grade science fiction movie.

antipeeve: even if they look bad, fresh blueberry pies always taste good!

peeve: when i intentionally change the pronunciation of a word and people
	think i'm just getting it wrong. criminy. show a little creativity.

peeve:
	SO's grandma: when am i getting your wedding invitation?
antipeeve:
	SO: you know what they say, gram,... if it ain't broke, don't fix it!

:)

-l "howsabout bringing some pie to the peevefest? [winning] :)" p
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From: charless@sco.COM (charles stross)
Subject: Re: The declining standards of cinema swordsmanship
Organization: The Somewhat Contagious Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 12:04:35 GMT


In article <24713@castle.ed.ac.uk> eset08@castle.ed.ac.uk (J Strobridge) writes:
>The worst, the very worst cinema swordsmanship is shown in the
>medieval films.   Not only was the armour so heavy that if a knight
>got knocked off his horse and thrown to the ground he couldn't even
>stand up without help but the swords were heavy - and I mean two-handed
>heavy!   There is no way any one-handed slash parry and thrust situation
>could have happened whatever Robin-of-Camelot-Arthurian-Lockesley-Hood-of-
>Sherwood may suggest!   In fact Monty Python probably came closest to an
>accurate portrayal of a medieval duel in their Holy Grail film! 
>
>jill

Er, it ain't necessarily so. According to those of my friends who're 
into mediaeval combat studies, by the mid-fifteenth century plate armour
was so light it compared favourably with a modern flak jacket/tin
helmet combo. A typical suit of plate armour weighted about 30-35 
pounds.  Sixteenth century records of knightly prowess suggest that 
a suitable test for a knight was to start lying face-down on the ground 
wearing full armour; then to sprint a hundred yards and jump into
the saddle of their horse without using the stirrups. Until comparatively
recently, everyone `knew' that this wasn't possible -- armoured knights
weighed so much that they had to be winched into the saddle,
didn't they? Well, apparently someone decided to test this; and yes,
it _is_ possible. The myth of the incredibly heavy mediaeval knight
turns out to be a Victorian invention if you trace the historical
evidence. The _main_ problem with heavy metal armour was heat 
prostration, just like the NBC suits used during Desert Storm -- nobody 
could stand more than a couple of hours in a hermetically sealed 
rubber or padded iron suit on anything but a temperate day. And after
the middle ages, the balance of power shifted towards offensive rather than
defensive weaponry.

(PS: this is c/o someone who's doing an MA in war studies and who has
a special interest in mediaeval combat techniques. Your mileage may
vary.)


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From: nolan@twg.com (Skrymir the Jotun)
Subject: Re: Dolt on the loose
Reply-To: nolan@twg.com
Organization: Skarpsey Home for Reformed Twitz
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:30:08 GMT


In article <1992Aug11.093405.6905@ac.dal.ca>, 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:
[more drivel]

Go away, little gnat, before someone comes after you with a swatter.
Oh, BTW, this one's for you


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From: larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way)
Subject: Re: RADIO SHACK FASCISM
Organization: New Mexico State University, MetaPhysical Science Laboratory
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:28:59 GMT

In article <whitlock.63.0@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu> whitlock@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Reid E. Whitlock) writes:

   Those of you who have recently shopped in a Radio Shack outlet may have 
   encounteredthe salesperson requesting, at time of purchase, your last four 
   digits of your phone number (or was it SSAN?), and your address and name. 
   This is ostensibly "for our records". I pushed further (not having been in a 
   Radio Shack in a long time and not being aware of their proclivity for data 
   collection) "what EXACTLY will you do with this information?" I was told 
   that it would permit Radio Shack to send me promotional material (as if I 
   need more junk mail!). I said "no thank you". And told the gentleman that I 
   would not give him any of the information he had requested. At this point he 
   said "THEN I CANNOT SELL YOU THE DIGITAL ALARM CLOCK YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO 
   BUY". He claimed that without **at least** my name being coded in, he could 
   not complete the transaction --- the computer wouldn't let him!!!

The correct response was: "Oh, I guess I don't want the shitty Micronta 
digital alarm clock I just shoved up your ass after all.." And walk out.

   Now this seemed to me a particularly insidious form of big-brother fascism, 
   and I of course, made a scene in the store stating that as long as I paid 
   cash I had a right in a retail outlet for a purchase of under twenty five 
   lousy dollars, to remain ANONYMOUS! He said, according to Radio Shack,
   I did not.

   I personally think the store should be boycotted until it changes its 
   policy (nationwide, mind you), but what peeves me more is that chains/
   franchise empires like this one use this tactic, tying us all in to master 
   databases to be used who-the-hell-knows-how ?

You can use one of MY numbers if you want: 0000 or 6969.

L.
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From: padutton@wpi.WPI.EDU (Peter Alan Dutton)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.tasteless
Subject: Re: Drivers from Hell
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:30:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute

In article <1992Aug13.071011.16666@mr.med.ge.com> hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987) writes:
>Peter Alan Dutton (padutton@wpi.WPI.EDU) wrote:
>: 
>: Of course, I was having enough trouble keeping the car centered in the
>: lane because the *&(*#$@ steering wheel is on the wrong side!
>: 
>Another example of this genius's questionable ability to drive!

And what's the first example? How do you know how well I drive?

Peeve: Bald assertions

Antipeeve: Driving on the left was alot easier than I had feared.

Peeve: But guiding a car from the opposite side to which one is very
	used to isn't all that easy.

>: >      I bet you read Consumer Reports for car information, too.
>: 
>: No, but I bet you read ComputerWorld and watch "Star Trek"...
>: 
>: Peter!
>: 
>Peter,
>What's the point?  Are you saying Star Trek & ComputerWorld are only for intelligent,
>dynamic people?  I guess I have to agree.  Have fun watching your soap operas.

Oh, yeah, silly me. I guess I MUST have been saying that. Well slap
my face, your little funny has put me in my place.

Peeve: The "I'm rubber, you're glue" school of sarcasm.

Peeve: That I tried to stoop down to the level of Mr. Consumer Reports.
	For that, I must apologize. But...

Antipeeve: I probably annoyed lots of "Star Trek" fans.


Peter!
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From: charless@sco.com (Charlie Stross)
Subject: Re: Brookside
X-Mailer: SCO Portfolio 2.0
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:41:45 +0000


Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: The Somewhat Contagious Operation, Inc.
Keywords: 

Peeve: Soap Operas. I didn't defenestrate my television and move 
to peevetown in order to be brought forcibly up to date on the
latest opium-for-the-masses ...

(Exit stage left, saying ``mutter mutter BBC mumble curse ITV fume'')

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WARNING: The opinions voiced in the preceding electronic document are the
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From: yarvin@highlite.uucp (Curtis Yarvin)
Subject: Re: !Peeve of the century
Organization: Gotham Communications Research
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:43:24 GMT

In article <5685@catnip.berkeley.ca.us> bandy@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (Footloose and Fancy Free) writes:
>
>Got a phone call from my lawyer yesterday!!!!!!!

What, suing news.admin for slander & gross defamation of character?

c
From: booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Clothes that fit
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:21:42 GMT
Organization: Autodesk, Inc., Sausalito, CA

In article <1992Aug11.145009.2527@sco.COM> charless@sco.COM (charles stross) writes:
>
>Suggestion: Warsaw Pact or NATO surplus. About a year ago I payed
>fifteen quid for a pair of unworn but second-hand Dutch paratroop
>boots, fleece-lined and waterproof, which are built for jumping out
>of planes in and being run over by tanks. No, the soles don't
>fall off. They' ain't exactly high fashion, but if you need to 


Get a ripped tee-shirt, faded jeans, the abovementioned boots and
a nose ring and you would, indeed, be very trendy in some circles.

!Peeve: Looking at the women's fashion magazines tell me it will be
	a good year for this shop-o-phile. Very nice stuff that actually
	looks comfortable.

Peeve: I cannot afford a $1400 Chanel camel coat.

Peeve: Worrying about "comfort" in my clothes tells me I am getting old.

ER
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	>elle@midway.uchicago.edu writes: >>drp@dosbears.uucp writes:
	>>Robin's Egg Blue      69-er                           69-ee
	>It's quite a trick, working out the difference between the two.
	>(Is this like "let's do 70:  you do me and I'll owe you one"?)
From: scott@festival.ed.ac.uk (Scott Larnach)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Drivers from Hell
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:10:30 GMT

egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson) writes:
>Not to mention "booting the Sequent after the upgrade", right your holiness??

Flogging a dead horse could be justified on some grounds - that of
enjoyment particularly; it takes all kinds, after all - but whipping
the ground that the village idiot suggested it might have been buried
under 5 centuries ago is, well, peverse, not to mention pointless.

Jeremy, your idea of a well targetted ironical comment is the
linguistical equivalent of a B-52 with a belly full of dioxin, napalm,
and arclights. Flying towards Nowhere, AZ.

Besides, if I'd wanted to start a religion, I'd have taken up third
rate science fiction writing, or dropped too much acid, or something.

And, for the record, I've no idea how to boot a Sequent. I have this
new pair of hiking boots I'm trying to break in, though...

S
From: booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Packaging and stuff
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:58:45 GMT
Organization: Autodesk, Inc., Sausalito, CA

In article <1992Aug11.230906.7654@dg-rtp.dg.com> cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes:
[etc]
>
>2) The age old question:  Why do hot dogs come in packages of 10, but
>   hot dog buns come in packages of 8?  You gotta buy 5 packages of buns
>   and 4 packages of hot dogs to make that come out right.

I have thought about that for years. I have come to the conclusion
that the two extra hot dogs are for the dog. Whenever people do a
cookout, there seems to be a large and hungry dog with very sad
brown eyes and highly mobile eyebrows waiting at the BBQ. 

Peeve: Animals that beg.

!Peeve: Animals that wait patiently for their food.

MajorPeeve: Big dogs who snatch food from little kids' hands. I lost
	a popsicle to a big dog when I was little. Damn thing did not
	even eat the stick. The dog's owners thought it was funny.


ER

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	>elle@midway.uchicago.edu writes: >>drp@dosbears.uucp writes:
	>>Robin's Egg Blue      69-er                           69-ee
	>It's quite a trick, working out the difference between the two.
	>(Is this like "let's do 70:  you do me and I'll owe you one"?)
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From: donp@twg.com (Don Pette)
Subject: Re: Drivers From Hell
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:23:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug10.022929.13278@cs.rose-hulman.edu> mgrjtb@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu - Obviously a newbie squaks -
>
>I really hate it when...
>
>	I get tailgated at night, and the car following me thinks that brights  
>are necessary, but thoughtfully turns them off for on coming cars.
>
>	Since then I have changed vehicles.  Now I drive a '66 Chevy C15, with  
>a heavy duty suspension, and steel bumpers.  I also have a custum hitch that  
>will take out your entire grill.
>

This is a *whine*, not a peeve. It's not even close to a peeve. Not
only that, this has been covered a hundered times. Christ on a meathook,
you'd think these people would read the group for awhile before posting 
such inane bullshit. Take your first sentance -

>>>I get tailgated at night, and the car following me thinks that brights
>are necessary, but thoughtfully turns them off for on coming cars.

All your saying is that the car behind you is thoughtful. Big
fucking-DOT-deal. You didn't even include BDI in the sentance.
Also, you imply that you get tailgated at night quite often by
whining, "I get tailgated at night". You're probably one of the losers
we've been peeving about all this time.

Then you mumble, "Since then I have changed vehicles."

I will admit the truck sounds nice, but the day we in peevetown
give a dirty, slimy, shit-caked, bug-infested, rat's ass that
you changed vehicles, is the day this becomes altDOTpansies.
It ain'ta gonna happen.

You must elaborate, enunciate, tickle our collective fancies with
your style and wit. Expound as you would if you were writing a 
thesis and were four pages short. Even lie, but don't give us dribble,
'cause there's people here who live to masicate on the tender gluteus 
of newcomers like you. 

-Don
From: mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil (Michael Hart)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Drivers From Hell
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:51:24 GMT

In <1992Aug20.172140.22802@umbc3.umbc.edu> potler@umbc4.umbc.edu (Laura Potler (GSFC)) writes:

>peeve: people who are unclear about "this week" vs. "next week". it's really 
>	not that complex. 

CloselyRelatedPeeve:  referencing days of the week.  Today is Thursday.
If I say last Tuesday, is it really so unclear as to whether I mean 
the Tuesday earlier this week ("last Tuesday"), or the one nine days
ago ("Tuesday before last", or "a week ago, this past Tuesday")?

Likewise, it again being still Thursday, if I say "this Monday" 
why would the listener think I meant the Monday 11 days from now, 
and not the next Monday to arrive, chronologically speaking?

It's enough to boggle the mind.


>peeve: people who are unclear if they're on a 2 lane road or a 1 lane 
>	road or a 4 lane road. a little more complex but still...

Well, I gotta admit, I don't know what the rules are here.  Are you
supposed to mention the sum total of the lanes in both directions, or
just the lanes in one direction?  Now, I personally would say something
like "Oh yeah, well I-95 is a 4 lane highway by me."  To which some
one might reply, "Really?  I thought it was at least 3 lanes each 
way there."

Duh.  

>-l "what?" p

MajorTeenagerPeeve:  why is it that when teenagers talk on the phone,
every other phrase is "What?"  And then, they press on talking, without
giving the person on the other end a chance to repeat what they
said.

!Peeve:  thinking and reading about all this peevefodder, which 
I'm sure will get adequate attention this Saturday at 
PeeveFestEast92.

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From: hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Subject: Re: RADIO SHACK FASCISM
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 10:10:24 GMT

: 
: In <whitlock.63.0@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu> whitlock@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Reid E. Whitlock) writes:
: 
: >Now this seemed to me a particularly insidious form of big-brother fascism, 
: >and I of course, made a scene in the store stating that as long as I paid 
: >cash I had a right in a retail outlet for a purchase of under twenty five 
: >lousy dollars, to remain ANONYMOUS! He said, according to Radio Shack, I did 
: >not.
: 

I've never had problems with this.  When they ask for my number, I just tell
them 'cash sale'.  This has worked at several RS's in the Wisconsin area,
with minimal hassle.

I don't go to RS much anyway, because they haven't been worth a DAMN since they
started selling more consumer goods than hardware-hacker goods.  Kinda like
Heathkit, who used to actually sell KITS.  Imagine that.  Now, you just go in
and buy the junk already assembled, instead of assembling the junk yourself.

ObPeeve:  BDI Radio Shack salesmen who know NOTHING about what they are selling.
Last time I went in, one who I already knew to be useless greeted me with a
greasy "Can I hellllllllllllp you?", to which I replied "Probably not."  Short,
to the point, and innefective.  "Well, why don't you try me?", to which I
responded, "OK, I am looking for the components I need to debounce a SPST  
switch used as a trigger on a TTL flip-flop".  He left me alone after that.
Sometimes, you just have to be rude when dealing with RS.

--

Dave Hinz  -  Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.  Obviously.
hinz@picard.med.ge.com
From: banta@blagg.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Drug testing and welfare
Date: 14 Aug 1992 14:20:45 GMT
Organization: Sun, Moon, and Stars
NNTP-Posting-Host: blagg

(Don Baldwin) writes:
>So, I'm bailing out on this thread.  Go on, you get the last word this time;
>have a field day.  Just wake me up when it's over...

How considerate of you.

As a parting peeve, I'll mention that dimbulbs that try to end
arguments by crying "You're stupid and I quit." are annoying.

I imitated the style and actually stole the text of that line from
myself.  I'll make sure to give myself credit.

Thanks again, Don.

andy
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If you add a teaspoon of sewage to a barrel of wine, you get sewage.
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From: hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: peeve o' the day
Date: 19 Aug 92 11:54:37 GMT
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Don Baldwin (donb@igor.tamri.com) wrote:
: In article <1b854259.ARN2372@prolix.pub.uu.oz.au>
: munnari!labtam!eyrie!prolix!dac writes:
: >Peeve: Code reviews.
: 
: Yeah, I hate it when someone points out that I've done something stupid
: when programming, too.  It means I have no excuse for doing it again.
: 
: >Some dork at work object to me declaring a variable 'junk'
: >without commenting it. So I commented it:
: >
: >   int junk; // This variable holds the contents of pi to four
: >             // billion decimal places, and is overwritten at whim.
: >
: >He wasn't impressed.
: 
: While such a declaration is "cute" when you do it in school, it loses
: it's charm when people are paying you to do work.
: 
:    don

ObPeeve:  People with no sense of humor.  If you can't have fun, why 
bother?  (check out my .plan file!)

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hinz@picard.med.ge.com
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From: allane@earth.gas.unsw.OZ.AU.gas.unsw.OZ.AU (Allan Evans)
Subject: Re: Why can't I work in Europe?
Summary: Austria? German?
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 08:47:56 GMT

ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) baits all the furriners:
>
> alex@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Vrchoticky) writes:
> 
> >01sybok@ac.dal.ca whiiiiines:
[looking for someone to read a rejection letter in German...]

Alex notes that *somebody* might be posting from Austria; Vienna to
be exact, and by implication *somebody* might speak German.

To which Nosy curiously replies:
> 
> 	But what does that have to do with reading GERMAN?
> 

Now this is either Mikian Obtuseness, Sybokian Sarcasm, or possibly
USAn DisWisdom. This statement certainly betrays a slight lack of 
knowledge about what language is generally used in Austria.

> <he just might ... 
> 	Oh, yeah, I forgot.....Europeans study foreign languages
> 	more than Nortamericanos.

Hmm. This is tricky. No one could be *so* silly that they would
be calling German a *foreign* language when the poster is from
Austria... with a name like Vrkchoplicky...

Oh! Something is happening...
---->Blinding *FLASH* of the Obvious...*B*F*O*... not to be confused
     with BFOb... 

This IS Sybokian Sarcasm, but mixed with Mikian Obtuseness.
I can see the light. I didn't think that somebody like Nosy would
attempt to bait non-USAns with such obviously planted DisWisdom.

Al
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