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From: tweek@tweekco.uucp (Michael D. Maxfield)
Newsgroups: alt.cable-tv.re-regulate
Subject: Re: Cable Bill Verbage? 
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 10:34:52 PST
Organization: Tweek-Com Systems BBS, Moraga, CA (510) 631-0615

rlw@atlanta.dg.com (Richard Wright) writes:

> the Cable Bill? What (exactly) are the guidelines/directives that the 
> FCC is using to formulate their new rules? Has the FCC issued any
> statement as to their intentions in this matter?

The `FULL' text of the cable bill will not do you much good yet.  The first
actions in it call for the FCC to do some rulemaking and setting rates/
levels of service and such.  The S-12 Cable bill is really just an guide
for them to follow and we must wait 90 or so days for the `complete' rules
to come forth from the rulemaking committee.
 
> I suspect that my cable company is just blowing smoke and pulling the
> old Republican "Blame Everything On The Democratic Congress" bit, but
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ HAha
Some of the congressional members who voted for the bill were republicans
while some of them who voted against it were democrats.
> I need hard facts to confront them. I would like to compose a 
> hard-hitting editorial if I can get enough data to back it up. 

If you want a copy of the ORIGINAL S12 bill before the compromise
rewrite, I have that and can send it to you, It will give you the 
basic outline of what the current bill (LAW) is as far as time requirements
for FCC rulemaking actions go, but that is about it.  One part of the bill
also seems to be having some critics in the courts as well and it probably
may be better to let the legal issues settle first and the rulemakings to
come forth before throwing the BOOK in the cable companies face.
> Please submit facts and sources (I don't need any opinions, rumors,
> theories or Me-Too's) either to this group or via Email. Thanks. If I
> get enough ammo for a scathing letter/editorial, I will post a copy
> here. <grin> warming up the old flamethrower...
> 
I would be rather interested to read any scathing editorials.  Unfortunately
at this time, all you really have to base you letters on are opinions (either
yours, or others on interpreting the bill and what the FCC may rule) to base
your writings on.  BTW: The S-12 file is about 100K in size.


      tweek@netcom.netcom.com tweek@tweekco.uucp  WWIVNet 5@5058 4@5056
           I'd rather get my cable service from the phone company,
                than my phone service from the cable company.
From: tweek@tweekco.uucp (Michael D. Maxfield)
Newsgroups: alt.cable-tv.re-regulate
Subject: Re: Cable rates
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 07:15:28 PST
Organization: Tweek-Com Systems BBS, Moraga, CA (510) 631-0615

cm042@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Lou Konieczka) writes:

> 
> So if you feel you are paying for "free channels", why subscribe
> at all?  No one is holding a gun to your head to take cable.  

How true... That is what I did, although I feel that if I was not
a technical sort, I would have been completely isolated from
any television signals.

> Cable does create its won programming too.  The USA network
> produces movies exclusive to that channel.  What is MTV, VH1,
> CNN, The Weather Channel---so these aren't programs produced
> by cable TV???  Then what are they?  

MTV and VH1 are networks that are owned by Viacom which happens to own
several cable systems as well.  CNN is a network owned by Turner Broad-
casting. (I an not informed about the weather channel).  All of these
networks are available by satelite downlinks to the home as well as by 
cable.  I don't see where you arive at the conclusion that these channels
are cable owned, or cable only channels.  There are some channels that
are available only to cable operators (prior to the enforcement of S12) 
such as TNT and the only way to have it available to a satelite downlink
station at ones home is either arange it through your local cable company
if they have an exclusivity contract with TNT or to hope that they don't 
have an exclusivity contract and try to order it through the usual satelite
subscription services.

Yes, there are some channels I would consider cable produced.  CSPAN and
CSPAN2 are two of them.  In fact, their programming is rather remarkable
for offering great value for low cost... of course, their overhead costs are
quite low too compared any of the entertainment programs on the cable carried
channels



      tweek@netcom.netcom.com tweek@tweekco.uucp  WWIVNet 5@5058 4@5056
           I'd rather get my cable service from the phone company,
                than my phone service from the cable company.
Newsgroups: alt.cable-tv.re-regulate
From: cm042@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Lou Konieczka)
Newsgroups: alt.cable-tv.re-regulate
Subject: Re: Cable rates
Date: 6 Nov 1992 04:20:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


So if you feel you are paying for "free channels", why subscribe
at all?  No one is holding a gun to your head to take cable.  

Cable does create its won programming too.  The USA network
produces movies exclusive to that channel.  What is MTV, VH1,
CNN, The Weather Channel---so these aren't programs produced
by cable TV???  Then what are they?
From: schludermann@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Subject: RFI:Are Microstation pc & Modelview pc take advantage of a Wietek 4167
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 06:18:56 GMT

  I am leaning towards buying a Wietek 4167-33 coprocessor for the cad programs
I plan to run Intergraph Microstation pc 4.x & modelview pc. Are these programs
written to take advantage of the Wietek?


Newsgroups: alt.cad
From: schludermann@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Subject: RFI:Displays used on 80's GE CALMA sytems
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:37:17 GMT

  I am looking to find out basic specs & even a manual for the display used
on general electric CALMA systems from the late eighties. Things like 
frequency of the scope, video line impedance ...

Kris


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From: lea@caleb.lbl.gov (Lon Amerman)
Newsgroups: alt.cad,alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Autocad Dwg ----> 5 axis mill
Date: 12 Nov 1992 19:07:04 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: caleb.lbl.gov

 
 I would like very much to hear from anyone
who has had experience exporting an Autocad
3-D drawing to a machine tool language that
can be used by  5 axis milling machine. Do
I need to go through an intermediate 
program/translator, or can some some machine
tool programs generate tool paths directly from
Autocad .DWG (or DXF)?

Any help or pointers would be appreciated,

Lon Amerman
Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
lea@caleb.lbl.gov
(510) 839-1714
From: gillett@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Walter E. Gillett)
Newsgroups: alt.cad
Subject: Need to translate from RGB to AutoCAD's Color Wheel and back.
Date: 13 Nov 1992 19:03:43 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: rice-chex.ai.mit.edu

Hi, Folks
    Does anyone know of any functions or equations that'll convert between
RGB (and/or HSV) and AutoCAD's Color Wheel?
				Thanks in advance
---------------------------------------------------------------
Joe Shapiro (NOT Walter Gillett, though I'm using his account!)
Please send replies to:                        joe@ConSolve.com
Newsgroups: alt.cad
From: fbauer@access.digex.com (Fred Bauer)
Subject: Re: Anybody out there using Generic Cadd 6.0?
Keywords: cad, generic, 6.0
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:42:10 GMT

Yes, I am using Generic 6.0 (and also a little bit of 2.0 for Mac).
In fact, our entire engineering dep't uses it.

Any one else?

--
Fred Bauer
Principal Engineer
IDB Communications Group Inc.
Internet: fbauer@access.digex.com or "fbauer%402-2370"@mcimail.com
Voice: (301) 590-7067
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From: csd10@keele.ac.uk (Y.O. Busia)
Newsgroups: alt.cad,alt.cad.autocad
Subject: unix PD CAD?
Date: 11 Nov 92 08:17:15 GMT
Organization: Keele University, England

I am looking for ANY code or pointers to public domain, or usable
commercial demo, or alpha/beta testable research code in architectural
CAD.

My research interests are in AI for CAD.  My university has the AI
but not the CAD.  

We use a network of Sun workstations - I believe this is not a platform
architects would naturally choose?


Yaw Busia <csd10@uk.ac.kl.seq1>
From: jack@alsvid.une.edu.au (Jack Claff)
Newsgroups: alt.cad,alt.autocad
Subject: Drafting plans for sculptures
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:54:09 GMT
Organization: University of New England - Northern Rivers (Lismore)

I have a friend who wants a drafting system for sculpture projects.  He needs
to be able to;

1. Have the best resolution possible when printing even if not on screen.  
2. It should be capable of representing perspective and isometric drawing. 
3. It should have a good renderer (eg. copper, bronze, wood finish).
4. Enough colour for a good representation of the above.
5. Scaling of whole and/or parts of drawings.

This is for personal use so we're looking at Personal Computer prices (PC, MAC
Classic etc) and nothing too exhorbitant for the software.

Thanks for any help,

Jack.
-- 
Jack Claff
Centre for Computing and Mathematics           E-Mail: jack@alsvid.une.edu.au
University of New England, Northern Rivers     Phone : 61 66 203 860
P.O. Box 157, Lismore, N.S.W., 2480 Australia  Fax   : 61 66 221 724
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: sscivall@ho17.eng.ua.edu (Stephen L. Scivally)
Subject: Looking for DXF and DWG files (3d)
Keywords: 3d acad dwg dxf
 
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:50:56 GMT

	Ok, first time to post so don't flame me too bad --

I am looking for an ftp site that has lots of 2d and 3d drawing and dxfs.
It doesn't matter what they are, thier size, or what platform they came from.
I am currently working with 3D Studio Release 2 and would like to have a
bunch of object to test/work with.

please email me or post here
_________________________________________________________________________________
  Rules of Rollerblades				       | sscivall@ho02.eng.ua.edu
"Once is luck, twice is skill, 3 times is showing off" | 
"No falls, no balls"  "No jumping, no thumping"	       | Steve Scivally
_________________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: shiv@mecad.uta.edu (Shivakumar Sundaram)
Subject: ADS Query !!
Keywords: ads_buildlist, ads_entmake for INSERTS
Reply-To: utacfd.uta.edu
Organization: University of Texas at Arlington
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:33:09 GMT

I would appreciate it if someone could enlighten me on how
"ads_buildlist" and "ads_entmake" works for BLOCKS (INSERTS). My program
inserts a block but is unable to create ANY ATTRIBUTES and therefore
crashes on me giving an error.

My program goes as :

int plevel()
{
	
	int status;
	struct resbuf *plev;
	ads_name ent;
	ads_point pt;

	pt[X] = 5.0;
	pt[Y] = 5.0;
	pt[Z] = 0.0;

	 plev = ads_buildlist(RTDXF0, "INSERT", 66, 1, 2, "PLEVEL", 10, pt, 0);
	if(plev == NULL)
	{
		ads_fail("List creation error 1");
		return BAD;
	}

	status = ads_entmake(plev);
	ads_relrb(plev);	

	if(status != RTNORM)
	{
		ads_fail("Unable to create PLEVEL insert\n");
		return BAD;
	}

	plev = ads_buildlist(RTDXF0, "ATTRIB", 1,  "2", 2,  "PLEVEL", 0);
	if(plev == NULL)
	{
		ads_fail("List creation error 2");
		return BAD;
	}

	status = ads_entmake(plev);
	ads_relrb(plev);	

	if(status != RTNORM)
	{
		ads_fail("Unable to create PLEVEL Attribute \n");
		return BAD; 
	}


	plev = ads_buildlist(RTDXF0, "SEQEND", 0);
	if(plev == NULL)
	{
		ads_fail("Unable to create PLEVEL SEQEND\n");
		return BAD;
	}

	status = ads_entmake(plev);
	ads_relrb(plev);

	if(status != RTNORM)
	{
		ads_fail("Unable to create PLEVEL Seqend\n");
		return BAD;
	}
	
	ads_redraw(NULL, 0);
	return RSRSLT; 
}

It is a simple program of inserting  a block and creating its attributes
I know there is a bug in the ATTRIB buildlist but am unable to find it.
Any kind of help is welcome.

Please e-mail to 

	shiv@mecad.uta.edu
	
Thanx

-shiv

*****************************************
shiv@mecad.uta.edu
Department of Mechanical Engineering
University of Texas at Arlington
Arlington, Texas - 76019
(817) 273 2016
*****************************************




Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: olasov@cs.columbia.edu (Ben Olasov)
Subject: cw or ccw
Followup-To: alt.cad.autocad
Originator: olasov@ground.cs.columbia.edu
Reply-To: olasov@cs.columbia.edu (Ben)
Organization: none
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:11:54 GMT


Need an algorithm or bit of Lisp code to test whether the vertices
in a polyline or a list of coordinate triplets are in a clockwise or
counterclockwise configuration.

Perhaps someone has a simple method for this?  If so, please post
or email.

Also, it would be good to see some Lisp or other hacks posted here for
no other reason than that they're interesting or do something that
defies the conventional conceptions of what AutoCad does.

Ben


-- 
Ben Olasov		olasov@cs.columbia.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: olasov@cs.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: isometric view from a 3D-drawing
Originator: olasov@ground.cs.columbia.edu
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:17:08 GMT

In article <1doejoINNbgv@early-bird.think.com> bobs@Think.COM ( Robert Schwartz) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.120859.10566@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>, gadenz@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Alexander Gadenz) writes:

>|> I have a 3D-drawing and i have to plot it in ISOMETRY.
>|> So i need a function (LISP) or program to convert 3D to a 2D-drawing in isometry.
>
>1.  Create a new layer (i.e. "ISO") and make it current.

Just in case it isn't clear how to do this, the 'vopint' command
will produce isometric and bimetric (but not axonometric) views.
VPOINT/1,-1,1 will produce an isometric view.

>2.  Put the model in the desired isometric view.
>    (vpoint <ret> 1,-1,1 <ret> is a standard ISO view)
>
>3.  Make the UCS plan to current view
>    (ucs <ret> v <ret> )
>
>4.  Load an AtuoLISP program that is supplied with AutoCAD
>    called "project.lsp".  This program can be loaded by using 
>    the "BONUS" screen menu.  After it loads it will ask you if 
>    you want to run "project1 or project2.  Choose project1.  This
>    will take the current view an project it onto the current UCS
>    in 2D.  All line that "look like" they cross now will.  Lines 
>    can be trimmed to remove "hidden lines" etc.

Even easier would be to configure the plotter to be an ADI
plotter, select the plot to file option, and DXB as the plot
file type.  Then you can remove hidden lines during plotting
and read the plot file back in with 'dxbin'.

Ben


-- 
Ben Olasov		olasov@cs.columbia.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: zawalyku@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mark Zawalykut)
Subject: AutoCAD on a SPARC 10 (Solaris)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 15:49:04 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Keywords: autocad, solaris, sparc 10

We are thinking of upgrading our server (currently a sparc 1) to
a sparc 10.  Sparc 10's can only run the new operating system -
Solaris. Has anyone had experience running AutoCAD under Solaris?
This would apply to AutoCAD versions 10, 11 and 12.  Thanks,
I will summarize.

Mark Zawalykut
Academic Computing Services
University of Calgary




Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: marandta@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Thomas A. Marandola)
Subject: Autocad in Boston Area
Summary: Question on Autocad using companis in southern New England
Keywords: acad Boston
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:26:40 GMT

 I am a freshman at Clarkson University, a computer engineering major 
hoping to design cad/cam machines in the future.  In high school I learned Autocad r.11, autoshade, animator, etc. and became fairly proficient.  My teacher
entered me into various CAD contests which I won, the problems were fairly easy.
The second contest sponored in oart by Autodesk garnered me a copy of r.10 and Animator (which I have yet to recieve after 3/4 of a year).
Anyway to the point I was wondering if there were any companites in the
Southern New england area (I am from Rhode Island) interested in hiring a hardworking, competent student for the summer.  I know in this "recession" of ours chances are slim, but I need to see what the real world is like before I sell my soul to the Air Force (I am on a scholarship to Clarkson University).  Sorry for
the babbling, any help would be greatly appreciated.
				Thomas Marandola
				marandta@craft.camp.clarkson.edu
From: psmedsha@ecst.csuchico.edu (Paul Smedshammer)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: FTP site for old alt.cad.autocad postings
Date: 8 Nov 1992 07:26:10 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

The title says it all.  I'm looking for an FTP site that has all the old 
articles in this news group.  I have been looking now for a few weeks without
any success.  Thanks.

Paul

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Graduate Student in Mechanical Engineering
California State University at Chico
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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: FTP site for arcives of alt.cad.autocad
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Organization: California State University, Chico
Keywords: 

The title says it all.  I'm looking for an FTP site that has all the old 
articles in this news group.  I have been looking now for a few weeks without
any success.  Thanks.

Paul

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Graduate Student in Mechanical Engineering
California State University at Chico
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 07:28:25 -0500
From:         Bob <ACSRAINS@EKU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: AutoCAD Books/Educational Information

Tim,

     I am looking for some third party literature about 3D-Studio...Do
you have any ideas where I might look...?

Thanks,

Bob
From: rxs14@PO.CWRU.EDU ((Robert Stalder))
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: AutoCAD Books/Educational Information
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:22:10 GMT
Reply-To: "(Robert Stalder)" <rxs14@po.CWRU.Edu>
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>
>I have seen a bunch of people asking about AutoCAD book or technical
>information/teaching tools. If anyone is interested I know a great place to get
>plenty of AutoCAD stuff. Just let me know and I'll give you the rest of the
>information.
>
>Thanks,
>
>-- Tim

Why don't you just post the info?  Other people may have the same question...

--
Rob Stalder                           "To know me ... is to beer me"
rxs14@po.CWRU.Edu
stalder@SCL.CWRU.Edu
From: drake@Autodesk.COM (Dan Drake)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: Maximum block size?
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:44:27 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

bobs@Think.COM ( Robert Schwartz) writes:
+ In article <2930524069.0.p00166@psilink.com>, "Dan Thompson" <p00166@psilink.com> writes:
+ |> I am beginning a very large mapping project.  The total .dwg size will be
+ |> somewhere in the 10 to 20 megabyte range.  ...
+ |> ...
+ |> So here's my question:  is there a maximum size for an externally referenced
+ |> block?  Each section/block will need to be perhaps 2-3 meg in size.  Can 
+ |> a block be made this big?  I'd heard once that 40-50K was the limit.  I am
+ |> using R12 for DOS Extender.
+ 
+ This sounds like a perfect application for using xref's.  Xref's are
+ externally referenced files that can be edited individually but viewed 
+ and plotted together (among other things).  Read up on it in your manual,
+ I think this will solve your problem.
+ 
Absolutely.  By the way, there has never been a designed limit on block
sizes.  At some point there may have been practical limits imposed by
implementations, but I'm not aware of any, especially in modern systems
like R12 with its DOS extender.  (40-50K is unthinkable.  Version 1.1
could handle that on a 192K IBM PC with no hard disk.)

--
Dan Drake                 In software, the *complete* design *is* the software!
drake@Autodesk.com        --Hugh Lamaster
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: SALOMAKI@jylk.jyu.fi (SALOM{KI KARI JUHANI, FYS)
Subject: Vacuum technology
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:03:53 GMT
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     Hello ACAD users,
     
     does anybody know vacuum technology applications
     for AutoCAD e.g. construction component libraries?
     
     Thanks ...

     
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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Request: release 12 Promo File
From: morgan@arc.ab.ca (Sean Morgan)
Date: 6 Nov 92 09:24:43 MDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Alberta Research Council

Apparently this release has the Enterprise from Star Trek included as a sample
file.  I assume that this is public domain like the famous shuttle cut-away,
and that AutoDesk doesn't restrict its circulation.  If so, would some kind
soul please post (or e-mail to me) a DXF version of it (for those of us with
older versions)?  I guarantee the eternal gratitude of many Star Trek fans.
-----------------+-------------------------------
Sean Morgan      |  ALBERTA  6815 - 8 Street N.E.
                 | RESEARCH  Calgary, AB, Canada
morgan@arc.ab.ca |  COUNCIL  T2E 7H7

Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: schludermann@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Subject: WANTED:Numonics digitizer pwr sply & 4 button puck
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:11:08 GMT

  I need a power supply & four button cursor for a numonics digitizer.
Please send what you want for it. kris




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From: wolf@Autodesk.COM (Wolf Herda)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad,comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: autocad r11 in a dos box ?
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:49:22 GMT
Followup-To: alt.cad.autocad
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

DWK110@psuvm.psu.edu (darren karns) writes:
<> Does anyone know if it is possible to run acad11 in dos box from windows 3.1,
<> but without the extender package ? any information at all would be greatly
<> appreciated.
<> 
<>                      thanx in advance
<>                      darren karns


I'm afraid that R11 won't run in a windows dos box.  The reason being that
ACAD needs to be an un-priviledged application, and we did not do this
work till R12 (R12 should run in the dos box, though).



Wolf Herda
wolf@autodesk.com