HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Subject: Re: Improve Your College-Level Teaching
Keywords: Advice
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:34:14 GMT

   Be organized.  I think it's better to be organized and clear than
to be interesting and rambling.  To do this, try to write on the
chalkboard left to right, top to bottom.  Write more, rather
than less, since very little said gets copied.   Look at the
class.  Speak up.  Speak clearly.  

   Also, try to think of potential problems, places where students
can get stuck, and make a special point about saying that some
students have had this difficulty before.  It is this insight
that is quite rare to teaching, but I think, much appreciated.
Try to think about how some difficult point can be made clearer,
to distill the important points, and how students can try
distilling these points themselves.

   I think one of the less interesting ways to teach an
engineering/science/math class is to just work out problems.
This puts people to sleep.  Try to force them to answer some
questions.  Keep them fairly simple, but you might follow up
to more difficult points.

   Also, for some courses, try to inform the students as
to the overall perspective of the course, and why it is
important.  Sometimes, working on specific problems 
because you're supposed to doesn't motivate a student
to care about the course.  Think of reasons why it
may be important and no in so much a technical term.

   If you can break down some hard idea into some simple
rules to follow and explain why those rules are meaningful,
you should do so.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: sbanerj@eos.ncsu.edu (SANJEEV  BANERJIA)
Subject: GRE CS test (again): getting copies of old test
Originator: sbanerj@c00754-400wi.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: Sanjeev Banerjia
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 00:50:58 GMT


Ok, there was a big discussion not long ago on study guides for the GRE CS test.
I'm not looking for a study guide pr se but rather some old tests to do; I've
already done the one in the ETS practice manual.

Are there other places to get old tests?  I've heard of the ARCO guides; do
they have old tests in them, with the scaled scores and percentages?  Also, has
the ETS guide been updated recently i.e. does it have a more recent version of
the test than the 86-87 version I used?

Thanks,
Sanjeev 
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: hblim@iti.gov.sg (Hock-Beng Lim)
Subject: Info needed.
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, Singapore.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:00:39 GMT

Can someone please tell me more about the Management of Technology programme
at MIT : basically info such as entrance requirements, duration of the course,
etc.

Thanks in advance !

HB
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Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Subject: Re: Applying to graduate schools
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:25:10 GMT

In article <9Yq-M6-@engin.umich.edu>, Fil Sapienza <Fil.Sapienza@med.umich.edu> writes:
> What is the recommended number (if such a number exists) of schools to
> apply to? I have heard six.


   Six is what I hear a lot.  Whatever your pocketbook can handle.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: kalev@tarski.nada.kth.se (Kalev Kask)
Subject: looking for housing at UCI
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 20:06:43 GMT


I am going to graduate school at Univ. of California, Irvine this fall
and I'm looking for housing. If you know anybody who is looking for a
roommate or has a room/apartment to rent, please, e-mail.

Thanks in advance,

Kalev (kalev@nada.kth.se)
From: d8ahlcr@dtek.chalmers.se (Christopher Ahlberg)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Master programs in architecture
Date: 7 Sep 92 16:19:30 GMT
Followup-To: soc.college
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology

I would like to now about American universities that have master programmes
in architectures. If you have email addresses to administrators, (or regular
mail) it would be great. So please send me all the info you have!

	/Christopher

ahlberg@cs.chalmers.se
--
Christopher Ahlberg		       Chalmers University of Technology
email: d8ahlcr@dtek.chalmers.se	       School of Computer Science & Engineering
				       G|teborg, Sweden
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo,alt.grad-student.tenured
From: wattsj@mace.cc.purdue.edu (John Watts)
Subject: Re: Any newsgroup concerning grad study in business?
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 04:22:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.182246.6972@shearson.com> baba@sea.shearson.com (Baba Prasad) writes:
>
>The subject line sums it up, I suppose. But since grad study
>in business is quite different from that in other disciplines,
>I was wondering if there is any newsgroup that caters specially
>to this. I'm interested in the Ph.D. programs. 
>

i'm curious as to why you think graduate study in business is very
much different from study in most other fields ?  it's true that MBA
programs are more akin (generally) to law school than to m.s. programs
in the sciences, but i don't think this is so true of ph.d. programs,
at least not those i've been associated with (carnegie, chicago &
purdue).  in fact, (some) people would argue that a "problem" with
business school faculty is that we are trained in a manner more in
tune with pure social sciences or natural sciences/mathematics than
with business practice ... 

i'm posting this rather than mailing because i'm curious what others
think ...

on your original question -- if you are interested in economics or finance,
perhaps sci.econ is an appropriarte newsgroup for your questions, although
there is generally precious little economic science discussed there.

john watts
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From: infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew  Infante)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: What if you had no _special_ relationship...
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:20:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

Hi, I've got a question here...

I graduated from Duke with a BS in EE in '91 and have been workingg as
a programmer since then, but I think I may want to go back to school
(not Duke) and get my Masters in Computer Science.

I did not have any real great relationships with my professors, and
since I did not have the 3.9 GPA that would automatically stick me in
grad school, I worry about what kind of recommendations I should get.

I've always got my advisors - and I took a class with him, and had him 
for a independent study.  (make that adviSOR, one (1)).  I still
work here at duke, so finding him would be easy.

I'm sure the rec. would be ok - but is one enough, from teachers that
is - I can get several recs from people I work for also.

How much does a rec really matter in the application.

Also, when applying, what are the chances of getting money to pay
for school.  Everyone, and that's _everyone_ that I've talked to said
that if I went to NC State or UNC that I would be given money to
go - i.e. tuition paid for (I'm now a resident) and possibly more money
to pay for books, housing, etc.  -  How correct are these people.

Most likely I'll try and work during school as well - anyone know about 
coops at UNC or State?

thanks.

later.

andy
From: 91278446@CPHKVX.CPHK.HK
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: information request
Date: 6 Sep 92 17:56:00 GMT
Reply-To: 91278446@cphkvx.cphk.hk


Hello, everybody :-)

I am a Hong Kong student and want to have some information about two master
courses, one is MSc Finance and the other one is MA/MSc Economics. I hope to 
know the US university ranking (1-20) in these two courses. 

Do you know these? If you know and want to post it in this board, it's OK and I
'll check it. If you want to send me by E-mail, my address is as follows:
   
91278446@cphkvx.bitnet
91278446@cphkvx.cphk.hk
Michael Lai

Thks for your attention and help first! Bye bye! 
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: rknop@cco.caltech.edu (Robert Andrew Knop)
Subject: Re: payment for GRA-position
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:33:56 GMT

schnier@tnt.uni-hannover.dbp.de (Thorsten Schnier) writes:
>They offered me 1400$/month, and they pay my tuition (They say I don't have to pay taxes).

>1. Is 1400$/month + tuition a fair offer ? Or is it to low (or to high :-) ?

GRA's vary all over the map, because the cost of living is different in
different places.  Myself, I live in LA, where the cost of living is pretty
high; Rent in this area, while maybe not THE highest, is probably "up there"
for what grad students pay across the country.  And car insurance in LA is out
of hand.  Still, I am making less than $1400 a month (and I DO have to pay
taxes, you lucky dog), and am getting by.  You will probably not be able to
eat in high style every day, but you will be able to eat well, better than
bread and water certainly.  Car will depend on whether you can find a
reasonable one used, though you may be able to make new car payments,
depending on the cost of living where you are.

I would say in my experience from applying to grad schools and looking at GRA
offers, $1400/month (assuming it's for 12 months a year, not 9!) is as high or
higher than anything else I've seen anywhere in the country.  90% sure you'll
be well off for a grad student, unless the cost of living in Va is completely
ridiculous.

-Rob Knop
rknop@cco.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: Fil Sapienza <Fil.Sapienza@med.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Applying to graduate schools
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 09:07:02 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan - Surgery Tech Svc
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

What is the recommended number (if such a number exists) of schools to
apply to? I have heard six.
From: danoc@earlybird.Eng.Sun.COM (Dan O'Connell [CONTRACTOR])
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Re: Improve Your College-Level Teaching
Date: 8 Sep 1992 19:52:27 GMT
Organization: Subvert the Dominant Paradigm, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: earlybird
Keywords: Advice

gcdean@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Grad College Dean) writes:

             Don't change a grade because of a student's woes--because
	     you could later be charged with capricious grading.

Even if you were wrong? Some ethical standard.

            Although you are supposed to grade to a curve, many teachers
            don't--they teach to mastery.  (Notetaker's comment:  I hate
	    curves).

I thought grading on a curve went out in the 1960s; I think
it is unconscionable.

Dano
From: morse@satie.cs.unc.edu (Bryan Morse)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Re: Improve Your College-Level Teaching
Keywords: Advice
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:39:40 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

In article <Bu9Hnu.4rI@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> gcdean@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Grad College Dean) writes:
>5.  The best book on teaching, (recommended by Ginsberg):
>      "The Art of Teaching" by Gilbert Hyatt

A small correction, but the author's last name is Highet.  For those
wanting more info it is published by Vintage Press, ISBN 0-679-72314-5.
The original copyright is 1950 and the latest edition is 1989.  A little
old and highly un-PC, but pretty good reading.

-- 
Bryan Morse                University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
morse@cs.unc.edu           Department of Computer Science
From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Re: Applying to graduate schools
Date: 5 Sep 92 23:12:18 GMT
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park


   My opinion is that you ought to be prepared to spend money
to get information.   Surely, making a few phone calls can't
be so prohibitively expensive considering the amount of money
it takes for taking the GRE and getting applications.  It
may cost you in the neighborhood of $400 plus time to
apply.   Phone calls may help you find out when certain
items are due or what the programs are like.  You should
try to get not only an application but a list of
research done by the faculty.  Knowing whether a school
offers a terminal master's program is a big help, otherwise
you might be rejected from a school which knew that you
only intended to do a master's (the reason is that money
is typically available such as an RA, but it takes more
than two years, typically, for a professor to "recoup"
the money in terms of good solid, independent research).

   While e-mail is becoming more widely used, and has the
nice feature that it is free, you may still have to use
the phone.  The Peterson's Guides to various graduate
program is a very nice place to start, since it
provides some initial information and phone numbers.

   Also, one way to find out where some good programs
aer, is to look at the prestigious journals in the
area (ask profs. which ones these are) and look
for which schools appear to be publishing.  This
applies more to research in the sciences and engineering
as I have heard that some work in the humanities comes
out in book form.  Of course, asking professors for their
opinions is also an option (though some of them, surprisingly,
don't have much better answers than rattling off Stanford,
MIT, etc., i.e. name schools).

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: SB
Subject: De-mystifying the application process
Originator: ac05@sol
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 16:23:27 GMT

If this topic has already been battered to death, I apologize.  Does
anyone else find the application process confusing and mysterious?  I
don't mean the steps you have to take to apply, but rather, what sort
of qualifications you need to have in order to be admitted.  Some issues
have already been discussed in this group.

For example, the consensus of opinion seemed to be that low GRE scores
can hurt you, but high ones don't really help.  I concur with that.  Also,
most people agreed that recommendations from well-known professors (often
likely to be at the "name schools") are probably one of the most important
factors, etc. 

I'm wondering what the admission process is like from the  
perspective of the persons making the decisions?  How does a dept. go
about eliminating applications and narrowing the pool?  Is it better to
apply early, or perhaps that doesn't really matter?  Do applicants get
eliminated based on the reputation (or rather, the lack of it) of their
schools?  A nicer way to put that would be this:  if an applicant school
doesn't have a large reputation, does the committee even look at the 
other elements of the application -- e.g. personal statement, scores,
gpa, etc.?

I'd really like to hear from anyone who has perhaps had some experience
serving on an admissions committee, preferably in a Humanities field --
English or comparative literature, perhaps?.

All comments are welcome, however.  If you wish, e-mail me at the 
following address: ac05@sol.acs.unt.edu.
From: vasanth@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (Vasanth Shreesha)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Information Request:M.S.-CAD/CAM
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:22:40 GMT
Organization: Drexel University, ECE Department, Philadelphia, PA

My friend wants to know the schools offering good Masters level program
in the field of CAD/CAM. 
Thanx
-- 
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Vasanth Shreesha                            
Graduate Student
Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering
Drexel University
Philadelphia, PA 19104.
tel. (215) 386-9893(Home)   e-mail: vasanth@cbis.ece.drexel.edu
	 (215) 895-2250(Office)         shreeshv@duvm.bitnet
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Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: kushmer@bnlux1.bnl.gov (christopher kushmerick)
Subject: Re: Improve Your College-Level Teaching
Keywords: Advice
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:21:12 GMT

In article <laq13rINNs3q@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> danoc@earlybird.Eng.Sun.COM (Dan O'Connell [CONTRACTOR]) writes:
>gcdean@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Grad College Dean) writes:
>            Although you are supposed to grade to a curve, many teachers
>            don't--they teach to mastery.  (Notetaker's comment:  I hate
>	    curves).
>
>I thought grading on a curve went out in the 1960s; I think
>it is unconscionable.


All of the major courses in the undergraduate science at SUNY SB are graded 
on a curve. This normalizes for bad teaching on the part of the prof.

-- 
Chris Kushmerick
kushmer@bnlux1.bnl.gov
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: schnier@tnt.uni-hannover.dbp.de (Thorsten Schnier)
Subject: payment for GRA-position
Reply-To: schnier@tnt.uni-hannover.dbp.de
Organization: Universitaet Hannover, Theoretische Nachrichtentechnik
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:36:39 GMT


I am a German student, finishing my diploma on electrical engineering next month.
I`ve applied for a graduate research assitantship somewhere in Virginia, and I really 
hope I could get that job. I don't know much about prices and payment in the US., 
so I have 3 questions:

They offered me 1400$/month, and they pay my tuition (They say I don't have to pay taxes).

1. Is 1400$/month + tuition a fair offer ? Or is it to low (or to high :-) ?

2. What is the style of live I can afford with 1400$/month ? 
  (10 sqm room + old vw-kaefer + bread + water ?) 

3. (this one is especially for German students:)
  Basierend auf Kaufkraft und Lebenshaltungskosten, welchen Umrechnungskurs $/DM muss
  ich rechnen (1:1, wie Freunde mir sagten ?)

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				   Institut fuer Theoretische Nachrichtentechnik
				   und Informationsverarbeitung
schnier@tnt.uni-hannover.de        Appelstrasse 9A
fax:    +49-511-762-5333           D-3000 Hannover 1
phone:  +49-511-791817             Germany

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From: premal@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Premal Buch)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: BITSians of the class of 92 - 88XXXXXXX and 87BXXXXXX
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:11:58 GMT
Followup-To: premal@eecs.berkeley.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley


________________________________________

ATTN : ALL BITSians

________________________________________

REPLY TO :  premal@eecs.berkeley.edu


Hi everybody,

This is an attempt to establish contact with as many BITSians as
possible.

Please send me your e-mail addresses (don't reply on
the network, please) at premal@eecs.berkeley.edu and I shall
keep on posting the accumulated data on the network. The idea,
obviously, is to create as wide a network as possible od our class
so that we can keep in touch.

I have the following addresses as of now - please feel free to send
the addresses of any other BITSians that you know of :

1.  Premal Buch  		premal@eecs.berkeley.edu
2.  Hema Dhanesha		dhanesha@ee.rochester.edu
3.  M. Shreedhar		shree@unicorn8.wustl.edu
4.  Naveen Agarwal              naveen@paul.rutgers.edu
5.  Ritu Garg                   garg@cs.wisc.edu
6.  Rajeev Rajan                rajan@cis.ohio-state.edu
7.  V. Srivastav                vellimed@cis.ohio-state.edu

AND, in India,

8.  A.S.Ramchandran             common@iimb.ernet.in

Hope to get a flood of replies.

Premal

PS : Rajeev Rajan sends his three cheers for Coke and Pizzas !!!
From: wells@athena.cs.uga.edu (Scott Wells)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Re: Applying to graduate schools
Date: 6 Sep 92 16:55:46 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens


In article <1992Sep5.231218.13549@src.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin) writes:
>
>   My opinion is that you ought to be prepared to spend money
>to get information.   Surely, making a few phone calls can't
>be so prohibitively expensive considering the amount of money
>it takes for taking the GRE and getting applications.    

	I agree with most of the post, but my experience trying to get
information for theological seminaries may be even less expensive. 
	First, I got a standard book of college listings (like
Peterson's) and made/photocopied a list of the best looking
(accredited, theologically kindred) schools; sixty in all. Then, with
a pack of 4x6 inch index cards, a pen and a whole load of post card
stamps, I went to work. After shaving a quarter-inch or so off the
side of the cards, I wrote each admissions department a short note,
asking for a catalog and pamphlets pertaining to the program I liked.
(Sure you can use Post Office-sold post cards, but using index cards
gives you lines to write on. For the exact maximum size of post cards,
call the Post Office.)
	Next, after you recieve twenty or thirty pounds of catalogs,
you are able to cut your list to twenty or thirty. You have a
contact name, specific information about the program and often times a
toll-free number. Make demands for answers to specific questions.
Armed with information about the college, you can avoid questions
about how big the campus is, or how far it is from town, etc. If your
calling toll-free, you'll save even more.
	Then, you'll have to decide for yourself. 
	But remember, catalogs don't grow on trees, so save paper by
giving the catalogs away.

Yours in college,
Scott Wells

Snappy .sig file in committee
From: dadmun@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Re: Applying to graduate schools
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:51:33 GMT
Reply-To: dadmun@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida - CIRCA

In article <9Yq-M6-@engin.umich.edu>, Fil.Sapienza@med.umich.edu (Fil Sapienza) writes:
>What is the recommended number (if such a number exists) of schools to
>apply to? I have heard six.

I guess that depends on what your chances are of getting into school.  
Also, how much you want to spend on application fees.  I only applied
to one school, but I was relatively sure I would get in - and I did.
That's what I did in undergrad, too.
Andy D.
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From: trinas@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Speedy Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo,alt.grad-student.tenured
Subject: Re: Any newsgroup concerning grad study in business?
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:49:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

John Watts writes:

>i'm curious as to why you think graduate study in business is very
>much different from study in most other fields ?  it's true that MBA
>programs are more akin (generally) to law school than to m.s. programs
>in the sciences, but i don't think this is so true of ph.d. programs,
>at least not those i've been associated with (carnegie, chicago &
>purdue).  in fact, (some) people would argue that a "problem" with
>business school faculty is that we are trained in a manner more in
>tune with pure social sciences or natural sciences/mathematics than
>with business practice ... 
>i'm posting this rather than mailing because i'm curious what others
>think ...


I would tend to agree with John.  I've been looking into business
MS and PhD science oriented programs but not too technical and
most of the programs I have found are waaayyy too technical for me
to handle.  I haven't really found many non-science programs that
are not associated with MBAs.

My 2 cents,
Trina
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