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From: david@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (David Chappell)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 and Math Coprocessor
Organization: NCSU
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:18:19 GMT


In article <SCANNON.53.728064267@novell.com> SCANNON@novell.com (Steve Cannon) writes:
>>Does OS/2 2.0 take advantage of the fact that a math coprocessor is 
>>installed on systems running a CPU < 486?
>>If not, I'd like to see IBM make a version available that does.  Unless I'm 
>>way off base, it seems like a simple recompile of the code with the proper 
>>switches set could do the trick.

I, too, wondered about this, and I did an experiment.  I recently bought a
387 chip and decided to find out whether it would affect OS/2.  I'd heard that
it would be about a 25% speedup, but I wanted to be scientific about it.
Before installing the 387, I ran a PM benchmark program that does pretty
extensive tests.  After installing the 387, I ran the program again with all
other factors the same (i.e. no other progs running, same memory, etc.).
The net result is that a certain type of BitBLT was much faster but
EVERYTHING ELSE WAS THE SAME.  Not all BitBLTs speeded up, and I'm not sure
how often the one that speeded up is used, but that one factor was definitely
more than within the range of possible error.  I might still have results on
the test if anyone needs exact figures, and it would be neat for someone to
run the test on 2.0 GA vs. 2.0 w/32-bit GRE vs. 2.1b (maybe even have results
show up in a magazine).

I used 2.0 GA with some bug fixes but NO service pak (i.e. no 32-bit GRE);
it is possible that some things have changed since then.

Net result is that I have strong evidence that PM does use a math co-processor,
but I don't know how much practical affect it has nor do I know whether any
other part of OS/2 will use a 387.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
     David T. Chappell            --       North Carolina State University
    Stanford Univeristy           --   Computer And Technologies Theme Program
    davidc@leland.stanford.edu    --       david@catt.ncsu.edu
From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 needs better error messages
Date: 25 Jan 1993 19:03:56 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


OS/2 2.0's command line error messages are poor.  Sometimes they are short
and bad, such as the messsage that a non bootable disk formatted under 
os/2 give if a user boots off of it by accident.  What ever happened to
"non-system disk in drive a:, please remove disk and press any key to 
continue?"  Other times they are long and bad, such as the error message 
that replaced "bad command or filename".  The unifing factor here is bad.

This is especially annoying because it is easy to fix.
-- 
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From: laird@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird)
Subject: Re: SCSI Drive (Fujitsu 520 MB with Adaptec 1542b) not working.
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:40:22 GMT

Make sure you have the newest driver (AHA154x.OS2).  I needed it.

--kyler
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From: jhrv@tao.cpe.uchicago.edu (John Kim)
Subject: Re: win-os2 (2.1 beta) printing problems ...
Organization: Center for Population Economics
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:12:04 GMT


In article <1993Jan21.213728.5650@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>It sounds like the LaserJet III bug in Win-OS/2 beta.  Do not use the
>LJ III driver -- back off and use the LJ IIP driver.

Let me elaborate a bit.  The driver for PCL5 printers comes in a
separate file from the other PCL printers, and it seems to be broken.
None of the printers covered by this driver file will work correctly
with winos2 in os/2 2.1 beta.  This includes the HP LJIII, IIIP, IIID,
and IIISi.  Note the postscript modes of these printers (if you have a
postscript cartridge or simm) and the LJIV work ok, since the
postscript mode uses a different driver and the LJIV uses its own
driver (available from HP or from windows ftp sites).

The LJIIP is the closest to PCL5 among the PCL4 printers, so that's
why it's recommended.  You won't get scalable fonts and some other
fonts/features, but you'll get most (all?) of the data compression
built into PCL5, which makes for faster printing.

John
From: mathur@server.uwindsor.ca (Amit K. Mathur)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: win-os2 (2.1 beta) printing problems ...
Date: 22 Jan 1993 14:57:36 GMT
Organization: University of Windsor, Ontario, Canada

I solved the LaserJet III printing problem by expanding the right driver files (HPPCL5A.DRV, HPPCL5A.HLP, and HPPCL5OP.HLP) from my Windows 3.1 disks.  It works perfectly (only now it says "Windows" everywhere in setup instead of Win-OS/2 :)

So anyone with Windows 3.1 now has a second use for it (besides the low cost upgrade...)

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From: kspousta@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Kevin Spousta)
Subject: Re: what the heck is emxlibc?
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:39:15 GMT

borger@gremlin.muug.mb.ca (James Borger) writes:


>I downloaded the gnu file utils from hobbes, and everytime I try and run
>one, I get the error that it can't find the file  emxlibc.

>What is the file?  I can't find reference to it anywhere in the
>documentation.  I downloaded emxlib.zip from hobbes, but that looks like
>the source to build it with, where can I find it prebuilt?!?!

The entire EMX development package is UUENCODED on the alt.binaries.os2 group.
It might be in there..
From: enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Why can't I increase my dos window size??
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:14:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62711.student.cwru.edu

In article <baloo.727632675@mik.uky.edu> baloo@nx01.mik.uky.edu (kevin s coupal) writes:
>Why can't I increase my dos window size?  I've looked through every help file
>on windows and not ONE of them tell you how to increase the window size.  I
>have a 12 point font in a tiny little window I can't expand.  It simply wont
>let me expand past this one point no matter which button i drag the window
>with!  Help!  I can't see a thing in these tiny windows.  
>kevin c]

Look for Font Size in the window pull down menu.  What drivers are you
running (most drivers have varying font sizes)?  When you change the font
size, then resize the window.
From: Timur.Tabi@f347.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Timur Tabi)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: MMPM/2 and SB
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:19:08 -0500

"C>Well...I don't know if anyone has tried it or not but I have a SB MCV.

"C>And I can't get MMPM/2 to work with it. It says that it can't open the
"C>"Digital Audio" device. I can't check the IRQ because the SB MCV doesn't
"C>use IRQs. The only thing I can set is the IO address and 
"C>there is not conflicts
"C>there. I can't even use it under Win-OS/2 v3.1 because the drivers aren't 
"C>compatible with the SB MCV. 

The SB MCV does use IRQ's!!!  There's a jumper setting for the IRQ.  Make
sure it's _NOT_ set on IRQ 7 (I use IRQ 5).  Actually, MCA machines should
be able to share interrupts, but why risk it?

If you have any other questions, let me know.  I have a PS/2 70, MMPM/2,
and the SB MCV, and I got it to work right away.
___
 X MR/2 1.38 NR X Columnist for "OS/2 Monthly"
From: ccusekh@prism.gatech.EDU (Kevin Hodge)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Inside OS/2 Publication by The Cobb Group
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:22:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <1993Jan26.010650.12489@news.columbia.edu> fiv2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Fidel I Villa) writes:


>"...it's clear that DOS just won't cut the mustard anymore. After all,
>DOS was originally designed to run on PCs built in 1982, not 1992.
>Equipping a powerful 386- or 486-based PC with a decade old operating
>system is like putting a Model T Ford engine in a Lamborghini."

Actually, it's more like putting a Lamborghini engine (i.e., the cpu) in
a Model T Ford (i.e., the OS). :-) 

-- 
Kevin A. Hodge                |   "I'll show you a life of the mind!"
Engineering Psychology        |            Madman Mundt
Georgia Tech                  |
Organization: Junior, IM - H&SS Track, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:34:11 -0500 
From: Kwan-Ju Chen <kc2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Autoexec.bat DOS Session setting


When I changed the autoexec.bat DOS SESSION setting and start the VDM. 
I got sys3006 error.  What's wrong?  for example I want VDM to start
autotcp.bat file in c:\pctcp directory.  I changed the autoexec.bat DOS
SESSION setting to "c:\pctcp\autotcp.bat"  BUT it doesn't work!  I can't
figure out.

Please help
From: djn@ukc.ac.uk (D.J.Neades)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Wish List
Date: 25 Jan 93 03:33:55 GMT
Reply-To: djn@ukc.ac.uk (D.J.Neades)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

On my OS/2 2.1 wish list:

The option of using small system fonts in 1024x768 mode. The reason I use
a high resolution mode is so that I can get more information on the screen.
The enormous system fonts in the SP and beta SVGA drivers don't let me do
this. Reading online help is particularly difficult, since little
information can fit on the screen at a given time. Since I'm 
forever looking at the online API references, this is a pain.

Better still, let the user choose which font to use instead of the
'system proportional' font. That way, I could view help and online
information in 8pt Helv.

Also add me to the list of people who want jump scrolling. This is
*important* to me.


Comments on the OS/2 2.1 beta:

Overall, pretty good. However, I got a trap on average every 15 minutes
at first. It took me a whole night to install successfully. The problem
was the IBM1S506.ADD driver. 'No problem' you say, use the latest one
on watson.  That wasn't any better either.

I'm using the one from GA now, and only trap (usually 0d and 0e)
or freeze about every 4 hours! Interestingly, the GA IBM1S506.ADD
seems to be more stable on my system than the SP version.

I have a 486DX-25 AMI BIOS, 16Mb RAM, Tseng SVGA and a Seagate ST3144A
(IDE) 245MB, 12ms hard drive.
--
Daniel J Neades         3rd year computer science undergraduate
                        University of Kent at Canterbury, England
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From: npross@cantor.waterloo.edu (Norm Ross)
Subject: New IBM1S506.ADD Problems???
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:05:14 GMT

I recently installed the new IBM1S506.ADD 12-19-92.  I was happy that I could
now see the remainder of my 630Mb ESDI Drive (>1024 cyl) but I now seem to
be having some problems that I have never experienced.

1) I am now experiencing TOTAL (I mean total) lock-up of OS/2 periodically
   and they seem to be disk related. (Once after a cold boot I decided to 
   reformat a DOS partition and before it started OS/2 locked up)

2) During a TE/2 download I decided to go to DOS and run a game to pass the
   time.  I had just installed a PAS-16 Board that a friend loaned me and
   was curious to see if it worked.  Well OS/2 locked up tight and when I
   brought it back up I was horrified to see CHKDSK start erasing corrupted
   files on the same HPFS partition as the TE/2 download directory. All the
   files it erased were not open at the time of the crash.

If anyone could give me any help I would apreciate it.  I have already 
expanded into the extra space and would find it hard to go back to the old
driver.

My system is a DTK 386/33 w/ 8MB. Fujitsu 630Mb ESDI HD and WD1007SE2 
controller. PVGA using the 800x600 Generic drivers and I am running GA+SP.

Norm
npross@descartes.uwaterloo.ca
  
	
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From: rik@sci.kun.nl (Rik Fleuren)
Subject: Re: Missing COUNTRY.SYS
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:25:40 GMT

In <1993Jan21.163306.15981@isrc.sandia.gov> bryan@isrc.sandia.gov (Jon R Bryan) writes:

>How many people out there have been unable to run the 2.1 beta because
>COUNTRY.SYS is "missing?"  I know that I'm not the only one with this
>problem since there is currently a thread on CompuServe about it.
>
>In my case, I installed 2.1 on my second hard drive (Adaptec 1742 SCSI
>controller, 2 Maxtor LXT-340S drives).  The failure occurs at boot on
>the DEVICE=...COUNTRY.SYS line, where I am informed that the file can't
>be found.
>
>A common denominator seems to be using a second SCSI drive, and occurs
>on systems which have the first drive on a different type of controller
>as well.  Some people run into the problem earlier than I, during
>installation.
>
>Was this problem introduced with 2.1, or did it exist in 2.0 as well?
>I'm sure I remember postings in a similar vein months ago. 
>-- 
>Jon R. Bryan	(505) 844-2015	<=>	bryan@isrc.sandia.gov
>Sandia National Laboratories, Intelligent System Sensors and Controls

I had a "COUNTRY.SYS problem" with the service pack. OS/2 was looking for
COUNTRY.SYS (and probably the rest of the system-software) on drive D:.
Using IBM1S506.ADD from the 2.0 disks and later the new beta-driver
(SPB506.ZIP on software.watson.ibm.com) solved the problem.

With 2.1beta the same problem, also solved by using the beta-driver.

My C:-disk is a Quantum 80Mb IDE and D: is a Quantum 40Mb SCSI. The
SCSI-adapter is a Future Domain TMC-830 (works with FD8XX.ADD!).
The COUNTRY.SYS error disappears when I pull the power from the D:-drive,
even when the adapter remains installed. But I think the problem is
the Quantum 80Mb IDE drive, not the SCSI.


					Rik Fleuren
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: laird@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird)
Subject: Re: Ventura Publisher, Gem version and OS/2
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:03:40 GMT

trumpet-user@a.site.name (Default Trumpet User) writes:

>After installing OS/2 on a single HPFS partition I am trying to use Ventura 
>Publisher v. 2 with Proffesional extension in a dos session. I have no
>success as Ventura can't get control of the mouse, is there any cure for
>this. 

>I am thankful for any suggestions;

I doubt this is what you mean, but how about "Get rid of Ventura."

I've used Ventura since it was released (over 7 years?).  I loved it and
was quite devoted to using it.  When I switched to OS/2, I got the PM
version.  It stinks and is not being updated.

So...I finally (a month ago) gave in a started doing everything (not just
the basic stuff) on DeScribe.  It's tough at first - DeScribe requires a
new way of thinking about publishing - but it has been do-able.

One example of a fantastic difference between DeScribe and Ventura
(besides being able to load 40 fonts without choking!) is its handling of
stylesheets (tags in Ventura).  They're hierarchical (sp?)!  So if I want
to make an indented quote in the middle of Body Text, I create a
stylesheet under Body Text and just change the margins and perhaps the
leading.  EVERYTHING ELSE IS INHERITED FROM THE PARENT!  (In Ventura one
can create a new tag based on an existing one but...)  So, later, if you
decide to change the font used for Body Text, all of the styles under
Body Text that don't define their own font will use the new font too!
(It's this way for all of the settings, not just the font.)

I strongly encourage switching to DeScribe.  Good luck!

--kyler
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bryan@isrc.sandia.gov (Jon R Bryan)
Subject: Re: COM3 and Selective Install???
Organization: Sandia National Labs, Org. 1600, Albq., NM
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:23:35 GMT

pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (Jeremy Mathers) writes:
: 
: BTW, I had trouble with my third serial port (which the card thinks is
: COM4, but OS/2 calls COM3) when the IRQ was set to 2 (which OS/2 thinks
: is 9).

It is comforting to hear that I'm not the only one who has trouble with
IRQ2(9).  In my case, OS/2 applications which access the port work just
fine, but DOS applications work only once.  For instance, after I boot
up I can run ProComm+ and access COM3 on IRQ2 with no problem _the first
time_.  If I shut it down and restart I can no longer receive anything
on that port, but transmitting still works.  Obviously a problem with
the interrupt.  If I set up COM4 to use IRQ2 the problem follows the
interrupt.  The only was to get the port working again for DOS
applications is to reboot.  Since my OS/2 applications never have any
trouble, I _assume_ that the problem is in the VCOM device.

Please refrain from observations on OS/2's inability to share IRQ's,
folks.  I don't have any conflicts in this case.  I've informed IBM OS/2
support, but haven't heard anything back from them.


-- 
Jon R. Bryan	(505) 844-2015	<=>	bryan@isrc.sandia.gov
Sandia National Laboratories, Intelligent System Sensors and Controls
From: kc2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kwan-Ju Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: MVOS2.ZIP and PAS16
Date: 22 Jan 93 02:01:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.UfLy8i600WBKM19Elz
Organization: Junior, IM - H&SS Track, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


HI!  I am having trouble using promix2.exe that comes with mvos2.zip. 
When I try to run to run the program I got a ??????.MDM not found
message.

Why?
From: spexet@math.lsa.umich.edu (D. Robert Spexet II)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Where to get OS/2 2.00.1 ?
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:45:22 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan, Mathematics Department, Ann Arbor
NNTP-Posting-Host: explorer.math.lsa.umich.edu

In article <74505@cup.portal.com> selliott@cup.portal.com (J Steve Elliott) writes:
>Well, last night, I unpacked my new IBM Thinkpad 700C. Preloaded with IBM
>DOS 5.0 and Prodigy (wowee). So the first thing I did was install OS/2 GA
>Plus the service pack. Wouldn't work, The Thinkpad requires OS/2 2.00.1.
>In other words, I can't just install the GA and then the service pack.
>
>So, does anyone know if the shrinkwrapped OS/2 on the shelves now is 
>version 2.00.1 or just version 2.0. Or perhaps, where is this version
>available.

I'm not sure about this, but my understanding is that you can call up IBM's
800 number for a copy that will work.  The special version is available only
to those people that need it, i.e. Thinkpad owners, as well as owners of
certain other IBM models.

>Thanx, Steve Elliott


-- 
D. Robert Spexet II, N0OKR   Internet:  spexet@umich.edu, dspexet@attmail.com
Department of Mathematics    BITnet:    user68xr@umichum.bitnet
The University of Michigan   UUCP:      uunet!mailrus!math.lsa.umich.edu!spexet
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109    ATTMail:   !dspexet
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 14:15:06 -0800
From: Craig_Swanson@f514.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: OS/2 must ship with systems
Comment-To: Steve.Withers@f514.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Reply-To: Craig_Swanson@f514.n202.z1.fidonet.org
X-FSC-PATH: 202/514

 S> At risk of starting the FTC thing again.......i just 
 S> read through most of the
 S> ads in the December Computer Shopper (mine comes by boat...OK?).
 S>  
 S> "* includes MSDOS5 and Windows 3.1!" 
 S>  
 S> got pretty boring by the 300th ad. A couple mentioned other OS's
being
 S> available...usually OS/2 was first mentioned as an alternative. 
 S>  
 S> But why virtually NO vendors will offer OS/2 as an option has me
wondering.
 S> People who use OS/2 almost have to go out and *find* it. 
 S> I don't blame IBM for
 S> this completely. The MS lock on the mail-order PC market *is* a
virtual
 S> monopoly. No one else gets a look in. 

 S> How can OS/2 get vendors to ship it with systems? I 
 S> don't know what the answer
 S> is: make it $10 a copy to OEMs like MS has done with their
software? 

How about this:

  Since the rumor is that Microsoft charges $8 to include DOS and
Windows
  with systems if the $8 is paid for all systems, IBM could charge $8
more
  to include OS/2 2.1 with all systems which are shipped with DOS and
Windows
  and then avoid paying the $20 or so licensing fee to Microsoft for
the
  DOS/Windows code in OS/2 2.x as the user already has a license to
this
  code because regular DOS/Windows are included with the machine.

In other words, use Microsoft's $8 licensing against them.



--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
 * Origin: OS/2 Connection @ La Jolla, CA  <619-558-9475> (1:202/514)
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From: bangell@cs.utah.edu (bob angell)
Subject: Re: Boot Manager problems
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:27:59 MST
Organization: University of Utah Computer Science

In article <C1FqD2.Hny@news.cso.uiuc.edu> walk@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Walk) writes:
>Boot Manager recognizes the OS/2 partition, but not my linux and dos
>partitions.  It says that the linux partition is unformatted,
>and just dies when trying to use the dos partition.
>
>IDE:
>drive 1:	Boot Manager 	1M		primary
>		OS/2		40M	c:	primary

		make this partition a logical/extended partition
		(it will be renamed as drive d:)

>drive 2:	Linux		50M		primary
>		dos		76M	d:	primary

		with the above change, the d: partition will now
		be your c: drive.  You will never be able to access
		your Linux data under OS/2 .... but you can access
		all of your data under Linux if all of your partitions
		remain FAT.  In linux, you can mount /dev/hdb2 /dos
		-t msdos ..... but that is another group.

>		dos		76M	e:	logical
> 
>					Todd Walk
>					walk@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu

-Bob-

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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Trident 8900c and OS2 2.1
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:38:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.023233.7991@dragon.acadiau.ca> 003316g@dragon.acadiau.ca (Steve Gregory) writes:
>Can someone please help me. I just finished installing OS2 2.1 and I can't
>seem to get 640x480x256c. I have a Trident 8900c with only 512k but I
>could still get 640x480x256c with 2.0. I have run "dspinstl" but it would
>not install the SVGA drivers even after asking me if I was really sure I
>wanted to as the configuration would be "unstable". 
>    Has anyone else had this problem and found how to fix it?

Almost all 512K adapters are "broken" under the OS/2 2.1 beta (or the
Service Pak, for that matter, at least with Trident).  I've reported
the bug, but so far no results.

If you have a CompuServe account, report it by typing GO OS2USER and
posting a message to message area 16.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | Read the OS/2 FAQ List 2.0i, available from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
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