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From: bws20@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Brian W Simmons)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: feeding times (was: New Puppy - Need Advice!!)
Date: 31 Aug 92 00:44:33 GMT
Reply-To: bws20@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Brian W Simmons)
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Chris Barnes wrote:

]In article <1992Aug28.150222.29708@news.vanderbilt.edu>
]vusl@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (VU Science Library) writes:
]
]>
]>>>   In our case, I leave
]>>>   food and water for her at all times, again since we're not home ng
]>>>   the day.
]>>
]>>Water, yes.  Food, no.  Only put down the amount of food that the pup
]>>will consume in 1 sitting, and take the remainder away.
]>
]>Why do you think this is so important?
]
]For the same reason that it's not good for people to eat several dozen
]times a day, they get fat.  At least that's the reasoning behind
]following what people have been telling me for centuries.
]
]      ----------------------------------------------
]Chris Barnes            |
]x005cb@tamvm1.tamu.edu  |  Only 5 more days until the start of
](409) 846-3273 (home)   |           hunting season (in Texas)
](409) 845-8454 (work)   |

I suppose this would be true for some individual dogs, IF you left out
massive quantities of food.  If you just leave out enough for one meal
 and let the dog eat when it feels like it, then your scenario simply
cannot happen.  PArticualarly for breeds susceptible to bloat, providing
one meal a day is not a wise idea.  Our 93 lb dog gets about 7 cups of
dry food per day, half in the moring and half in the evening.  Sometimes
he'll gobble down the 3.5 cup "breakfast" as soon as it is put out (7 AM)
and other times he won't eat it until noon. I really cannot see a problem
with this.  If he doesn't eat it until 5 PM (a rare occurrence) then we
might only give him an extra cup and forgo his "regular" evening meal.

OF course, our dog lives and feeds in the house.  If you are feeding your
dog outside, then leaving food around all day might make the fly
population a bit too happy.  If you feed moist or canned food, same thing.

bws



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From: betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu (Betsy Weatherhead)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: alpha puppy
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:42:12 GMT
Organization: University of Chicago


I couldn't agree more with the person who wrote in to suggest that
alpha puppies exist and can make a big difference in the type of
dog you end up with.  My SO has an outgoing, charming, friendly
dog who has never, ever understood that in the pecking order she
is under him and me.  She is generally good natured and compliant,
but every once in a while she feels she must put her foot down
and set us straight.  We have tried alpha rolls, immediate punishment,
ignoring her, etc.  Nothing has made a dent in the 11 years he's
had her.  When I arrived on the scene, 8 years ago, I thought, "No
problem, I've worked with dogs all of my life.  I've semi-professionally
trained dogs with a great deal of success."  Well, nothing I've done
has diminished these occassional flair-ups.  She's just alpha in her
own mind and that's that.

I always attributed it to her first year of life, where my SO 
absolutely spoiled her.  He chose her from the litter because she was
the most active, healthy, spirited puppy in the bunch.  He spent 
hours watching the litter interact with each other and just thought
this one was so cute.  He traveled with her and took her everywhere.
She was one of those dogs that didn't know she was a dog.  

Then I went to a friend's "obedience graduation."  One dog reminded
me of our alpha dog.  Despite all of the owner's correct responses,
this dog was fond of giving little barking speeches to "correct"
the owner's unacceptable behavior.  I spoke to the handler at the
end, and asked him if he had spoiled the dog in the first few months.
He said, "No, my dog has just always been this way."  He'd tried
alpha rolls, punishment, etc.  All to no avail.  Then he said something
that sounded hauntingly familiar.  "We picked this puppy because it
was so active.  It was just jumping all over the other puppies, playing
and pushing them around."  

My conclusion:  alpha puppies grow up into alpha dogs.  And yes, I 
agree with the original poster.  Some people would want an alpha 
puppy and some would not.  I think it may be the single most important
trait to choose about your new puppy.
-- 
                              O             betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu
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  \      /    \       -- >      O           E. C. Weatherhead
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From: janicki@gblaut.enet.dec.com (Victoria Janicki)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Floppy-eared G. Shep Puppy
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:46:15 GMT
Reply-To: janicki@gblaut.enet.dec.com (Victoria Janicki)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Littleton,MA


The German Shepherd breeders I know will wait till 
the pup is at least 6 months old if not older to see if
the ear will come up on its own. If the pup has large ears
with heavy ear leather, they will tape sooner or if either parent
had problems with ears coming up.

Breeders should be alert to ear problems. German Shepherds should
have naturally standing ears. It is too easy to start taping
ears all the time instead of breeding (as part of the overall
program) correct ears.

--
Victoria Janicki
Digital Equipment Corporation
Littleton,MA
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: ala1@midway.uchicago.edu (Arnie Aronoff)
Subject: Fox Terriers
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:50:38 GMT

I would be interested in hearing from anyone out there about their
experiences with fox terriers.  I have a male one and a half year old
smooth fox terrier (name: Henry).  He has all the personality traits
typical of the breed: zesty, lots of energy, intense, high-spirited (some
would say "hyper"), loyal, and affectionate.  He has been through training,
knows his commands (though he doesn't always want to obey them), and has
been crate/house trained.

The problem is that we live in the city in an apartment (albeit a large
one) and do not have a great deal of access to outdoor space where Henry
can run around and use up what seems to be an inexhaustible energy supply. 
These dogs seem to love running around (they are very fast and agile).  

Fox terrier owners: how do you handle their energy?  where do you play?  do
you allow your dogs off-leash in the parks?  does your smoothie or
wire-haired have any companion dogs at home?  Jack Russell Terrier owners:
any thoughts too?
From: ryuen@BBN.COM (Ray Yuen)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Kennel Info Help
Date: 26 Aug 1992 15:25:02 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Distribution: na
Reply-To: ryuen@BBN.COM (Ray Yuen)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com



Has anyone ever heard of a kennel (private breeder?) out in the midwest
called SunDowner?  There is a pet shop here in Boston that advertises
that they don't buy their dogs from puppy mills, but I know that they
buy from a place called SunDowner.  Any info is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

-Ray Yuen  (ryuen@bbn.com)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: cmoussav@ssf-sys.DHL.COM (       )
Subject: TEST-IGNORE
Organization: DHL Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 23:24:27 GMT


Just a test.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: mjones@fenway.aix.kingston.ibm.com (Mike Jones)
Subject: Re: Newf story
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 20:30:17 GMT
Reply-To: mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Corp. Kingston NY

In article <1992Aug27.202041.5656@inel.gov> kte@INEL.GOV (Kathryn L Cook) writes:
>In article <l9ndbgINNrr7@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, mooring@rikki.Eng.Sun.COM (Linda Mooring) writes:
>|> 
>|> I was at the book store the other day and something on women
>|> and their dogs caught my eye.  It wasn't long.  Every
>|> other page featured a picture of a woman and her dog, plus
>|> a brief story about the two.
>|> 
>*FOUL*  Linda, you march right back into that bookstore and find
>out the title and author *NOW* we W-A-N-T to know .
> :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
>(is that enough smilies?)

The title is "Women and Their Dogs" (or perhaps "Dogs and Their Women", my
wife can't remember for sure). Can't recall the author, but it's a pretty
common book. You should be able to get it at Waldenbooks or equivalent.

   Mike Jones  |  AIX/ESA Development  |  mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com

President Thieu says he'll quit if he doesn't get more than 50% of the vote. 
In a democracy, that's not called quitting.
	- The Washington Post
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: szeff@ssf-sys.DHL.COM (Sharon Zeff)
Subject: Greyhounds
Organization: DHL Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:25:28 GMT

A while ago I requested information about adopting Greyhounds.  Well, this
weekend I got myself a new friend.  She is off getting spayed now, but
she looks like she is going to be a terrific pet.  She came with a name
too, which is Heidi.

She is 2.3 yrs old.  All black except for a small patch of white on her 
front.  She is about 60 lbs, which is small/average for a female greyhound,
although she actually looks bigger then some of the others that I have
seen.  She might be under weight, she looks pretty muscular though.

The Greyhound rescue had her in foster care.  So, for the last three
months she has been living in an apartment, considerably smaller then
my condo and doing fine there.  She is completely housebroken.
She is use to being left alone for 10 hours a day and does not seem
to mind it.  She is great on a leash, I even took her for a brief run
and she stayed right next to me the whole time.  I have a feeling she
was not going to much faster then her normal walking pace.  She was taken
out jogging in her foster home too, so she is already used to it.

I get to take possession of her on Friday, after she has been spayed and
check out and everything else.  Heidi has a few bad habits that the foster
home told me about, she is a food thief and she jumps up on people when
they come in the door.  I think I can break her of both of these habits
with out too much effort.  All in all I think I am getting a great dog
with almost all of the hard work done.  I am certainly braced for 
a rough first month or so when we are both getting use to each other,
but I have a feeling it could have been a lot worse.  

Anyway, I just wanted to thank everyone for the information they sent 
me on the breed.  Also, for those who were curious about the virus that
is going around the race tracks, it has not reached California and I
think they have it pretty much contained on the East Coast.  Apparently
the virus is extremely treatable with some inexpensive medication.  I
am sure I will post more, especially if problems come up, but I am 
certainly optomistic that everything is going to work out great.

Thanks again,

Sharon
szeff@ssf-sys.DHL.COM
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: miniature greyhounds
From: rgoldstone@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (Robin, Girl Wonder)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 19:31:39 GMT
Reply-To: rgoldstone@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Organization: California State University, Chico

At lunchtime today I was walking across campus when I saw the neatest dog!
A crowd of people had gathered to watch this tiny little dog, running 
FAST FAST FAST around the lawn.  The dog was a miniature greyhound.  He was
so neat looking!  The owner told me his breed, but I didn't get a chance
to ask her any more questions.  Can someone tell me about this breed?  Are
they rare?  I have never seen a discussion of them here before.  Do they
race these dogs like they race the big ones?  If so, is ther a rescue
organization for them?  I'd love to have one of these dogs!

Any info is appreciated.
-Robin
***********************************************************************
Robin Goldstone, Systems Software Specialist
California State University, Chico  Computing Services
rgoldstone@oavax.csuchico.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: dadams@cray.com (David Adams)
Subject: Re: No dogs in Natl Parks
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs,rec.backcountry
Reply-To: dadams@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:16:45 CDT

 ecologycntr@igc.apc.org (Ecology Center Fund) writes:
|
| What I was referring to was
|the sense of satisfaction that comes from seeing a track of a canine and
|_knowing_ it's wild. If you've felt this you'll know what i mean, and if
|you haven't, I feel sorry for you.
|

Yep them's the tracks of wild mongrel dogs alright.  ;^)


---
--David C. Adams     dadams@cray.com
___________________________________________________________________
       member--Minnesotans for Global Warming.



Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: schalene@sequent.com (Schalene Dagutis)
Subject: Re: Question for "guard" type dog owners
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 16:25:28 GMT

In article <rasmussenc.27.0@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu> rasmussenc@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu writes:
>
>Something just occurred to me now that I have a new Doberman puppy, and I 
>was wondering what you all do.    When you go out of town, are you able to 
>have house-sitters or neighbors come to your house to feed your dog(s)?
>If so, do you have to go through certain introduction measures?  Have you 
>ever had cases where you've had a call from a house-sitter who all of a 
>sudden couldn't get in the house?
>
I think it's a good idea to have pet sitters meet your dogs before you
go away -- whether they're the next-door neighbors or "professional"
dog sitters.  We had a company called Critter Sitters feed, walk, and
play with our late Cocker, Chester, whenever we went away and couldn't
take him.  When we called them, they made an appointment to meet
Chester in our presence before we left.  It was at this meeting that
we gave them detailed instructions about his care, showed them where
everything was kept, gave them the key and important phone numbers.
They stayed about an hour and really got to know Chester quite well.
After that, whenever they were in the neighborhood they would stop by
and visit Chester, even when we were home.  It was a relieft to know
that someone who really cared about our dog was taking care of him
when we were away.  If they didn't want to meet your dog first, I'd be
suspicious and look for someone else.

schalene

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: jd@sequent.com (Jim Duckering)
Subject: Are Chows Lazy
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 18:27:16 GMT

I have a 6.5 month old Chow who is about as lazy a dog as I have
ever seen.  We take him on frequent walks, but he just waddles along.
When we call him he strolls at a lesiure .000005 mph  Our Chows
always this lazy?????

-jd
From: mooring@rikki.Eng.Sun.COM (Linda Mooring)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Newf story
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:46:40 GMT
Reply-To: mooring@rikki.Eng.Sun.COM (Linda Mooring)
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: rikki


I was at the book store the other day and something on women
and their dogs caught my eye.  It wasn't long.  Every
other page featured a picture of a woman and her dog, plus
a brief story about the two.

The best was from a woman that lived on an island somewhere
on the East coast.  She had one Newfoundland, and I think
this was her first experience with the breed.

One evening there was a terrible storm and she was caught
in it while rowing her boat back to the island.  Suddenly
it was pitch black and she had no idea whether she was
still heading toward her dock.  In tears of desperation,
she finally started calling into the gale for her dog.  When she was
about to give up, there he was, swimming alongside her
rowboat.

She reached down and grabbed his collar and praised him.
He started swimming through the huge swells.  Finally,
he grew tired and had to stop.  She almost dove into
the water to make sure he was all right before realizing
that he stopped because they were finally inside the boat`
shed!  Her dog was tired, but OK.  Ever since then she's
owned Newfs.

Sorry, don't remember the author or title of this book.

Linda
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kte@INEL.GOV (Kathryn L Cook)
Subject: Re: Newf story
Reply-To: kte@INEL.GOV (Kathryn L Cook)
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Lab
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 20:20:41 GMT

In article <l9ndbgINNrr7@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, mooring@rikki.Eng.Sun.COM (Linda Mooring) writes:
|> 
|> I was at the book store the other day and something on women
|> and their dogs caught my eye.  It wasn't long.  Every
|> other page featured a picture of a woman and her dog, plus
|> a brief story about the two.
|> 
|> The best was from a woman that lived on an island somewhere
|> on the East coast.  She had one Newfoundland, and I think
|> this was her first experience with the breed.
|> 
|> One evening there was a terrible storm and she was caught
|> in it while rowing her boat back to the island.  Suddenly
|> it was pitch black and she had no idea whether she was
|> still heading toward her dock.  In tears of desperation,
|> she finally started calling into the gale for her dog.  When she was
|> about to give up, there he was, swimming alongside her
|> rowboat.
|> 
|> She reached down and grabbed his collar and praised him.
|> He started swimming through the huge swells.  Finally,
|> he grew tired and had to stop.  She almost dove into
|> the water to make sure he was all right before realizing
|> that he stopped because they were finally inside the boat`
|> shed!  Her dog was tired, but OK.  Ever since then she's
|> owned Newfs.
|> 
|> Sorry, don't remember the author or title of this book.
|> 
|> Linda
*FOUL*  Linda, you march right back into that bookstore and find
out the title and author *NOW* we W-A-N-T to know .
 :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
(is that enough smilies?)
      please,
      -kayti
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: tmason@ccscola.Columbia.NCR.COM (Tim Mason)
Subject: Re: Hot dog
Organization: NCR Corp, CCSD, Columbia, SC
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 14:20:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.170933.3640@macc.wisc.edu> 
heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>I'm puzzled by how immune my dog seems to heat.  
> example deleted
>
>He always does stuff like that.  How come he never gets hot even 
>though he can't sweat?
>
>JGH

My Basenji spends most of her day laying on the top step of my porch, soaking
in the rays.  I live in South Carolina where 90-100 F is average for this
time of year.  The humidity isn't much lower than the temp.  Meanwhile,
my mostly-lab digs a nice cool pit in the sandbox.

When its raining, my water-fearing Basenji hides in her doghouse, and my
mostly-lab takes over the top step. 
-- 
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Tim Mason
Tim.Mason@ccscola.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow)
Subject: Re: Donating Pups to Auctions
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:40:01 GMT

In article <1387@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM>, mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM
(Marget Johnson) wrote:
> 
> <1992Aug27.131937.5489@cas.org> <16850898C.X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu>
> Sender: 
> Reply-To: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
> Followup-To: 
> Distribution: 
> Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH
> Keywords: 
> 
> In article <16850898C.X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu> X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris
> Barnes) writes:
> >BTW:  how do you (cindy & liza) feel about donating pups to organization
> >like DU (ducks unlimited) to sell at auction?
> 
> Well, Chris, you didn't ask for my opinion...but that's never stopped me
> before! SO..
> 
> The Newfoundland Club of America (parent club) Ethics Guide states that any
> NCA member found donating a puppy to an auction will face disciplinary action,
> up to and including explusion from the club. 
> 
> As you can see, we Newfy people feel strongly that such action is against the
> best interest of the dog - and the breed - and is lumped right in with selling
> to brokers, wholesalers and pet shops. Obviously, there is no difference
> between auctions and other 3rd-party sales of puppies, except that the
> "seller" receives no money in the transaction (tax deduction and "free"
> publicity instead). 
> 
> IMHO, this is a bad way to treat a puppy.
> 
> **********************************************
> Marget Johnson, Windwagon Newfoundlands
> 
> -- 

Just my $.02 too........
  
The Australian Cattle Dog Club of America has a similar clause to the one
Margaret mentioned above * BUT *  The breeders code of ethics is only
signed by people who wish to be listed in the Club's Breeders Directory.
Thus the only people who can be fined/expelled from the club, etc. for
violating the code of ethics are those that sign the code and pay the extra
$10- to be listed in the Breeders Directory.  Sigh.....

Sadly enough, there is a "breeder" (read: "puppy mill") of ACDs down in 
Missouri who belongs to the club and there is nothing that the club can do 
about her irresponsible practices as she has never signed the Code of
Ethics.

Just a warning to those that think that just because a breeder belongs to a
National Breed Club, they must be good........
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"Australian Cattle Dogs are not just a breed....they're a way of life !!!"