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From: burnett@stl.stc.co.uk (Alan Burnett)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.fddi
Subject: FDDI VME card
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:04:17 GMT
Organization: STC Technology Ltd., London Road, Harlow, UK.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.3.130.15

This is my first attempt, so I appolgise in advance for any
errors/stupidity.

I am urgently  looking for a supplier of an FDDI (single or dual
attacment) VME card.

If anyone out there can suggest a possible source I would really
appreciate it.

		Alan Burnett
From: timelord@delmarva.com (NTP Watchkeeper)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.fddi
Subject: Re: Sun FDDI DX/2.0 problem
Date: 26 Jan 1993 23:25:53 GMT
Organization: Delmarva Power & Light Company
Distribution: world
Reply-To: timelord@delmarva.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: timelord.delmarva.com

I would seriously consider filing a small-claims court proceeding against
Sun.  Name the Chairman and COO as defendants.  Now, you may not win the
case, but the stink would rise to a level in the organization that would
probably result in some movement on their part.

I notice that you are a Federal agency - what does the GSA say about all of
this?  Maybe removal from the GSA Price Lists would get their attention :-)

(As for me, I`d just cut their power off ...)

	- John
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From: grima@iphase.com (Gary Rima)
Subject: Re: FDDI VME card
Organization: Interphase Corporation, Dallas Texas
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:25:32 GMT

In article <BURNETT.93Jan26140417@bhars109.stl.stc.co.uk> burnett@stl.stc.co.uk (Alan Burnett) writes:
>This is my first attempt, so I appolgise in advance for any
>errors/stupidity.
>
>I am urgently  looking for a supplier of an FDDI (single or dual
>attacment) VME card.
>
>If anyone out there can suggest a possible source I would really
>appreciate it.
>
>		Alan Burnett

	Well, if I may beat our drum briefly, Interphase is the world's largest
supplier (by a considerable margin) of VME FDDI cards and we have a local office
in the UK.  Call Interphase International at (01144) 869 321222.  (They are
located at Astral House, Granville Way, Bicester, Oxon OX6 OJT)

Regards,

-Gary-

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.fddi
From: herbert@prz.tu-berlin.de (Herbert Almus)
Subject: Re: FDDI VME card
Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:19:28 GMT

In article <BURNETT.93Jan26140417@bhars109.stl.stc.co.uk>  
burnett@stl.stc.co.uk (Alan Burnett) writes:
> This is my first attempt, so I appolgise in advance for any
> errors/stupidity.
> 
> I am urgently  looking for a supplier of an FDDI (single or dual
> attacment) VME card.
> 
> If anyone out there can suggest a possible source I would really
> appreciate it.
> 
> 		Alan Burnett

Rockwell CMC sells FDDI interfaces for VME bus systems, all SUNs  
supported. There are also versions with a CAM on board available, which is  
needed to support multicast.
You should contact Caroline Oak, phone: ++ 44 81.751.6804 / fax: ++44  
81.572.7716, Mail: CMC, Central House, 3 Lampton Road, Hounslow,  
Middlessex, TW3 1HY

Since around 2 years we are using their interfaces without any problems.

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From: cpt@rahul.net (Christopher P. Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.fddi
Subject: Re: FDDI VME card
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:37:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: rahul.C1HrBC.G7H
Organization: a2i network

In article <BURNETT.93Jan26140417@bhars109.stl.stc.co.uk> 
burnett@stl.stc.co.uk (Alan Burnett) writes:
>This is my first attempt, so I appolgise in advance for any
>errors/stupidity.
>
>I am urgently  looking for a supplier of an FDDI (single or dual
>attacment) VME card.
>
>If anyone out there can suggest a possible source I would really
>appreciate it.
>
>Alan Burnett

The Company for which I work - Network Peripherals, currently sells a VME
FDDI Card. It is available in both Single Attach ad Dual Attach. It 
currently supports SunOS 4.1.1, 4.1.2, and 4.1.3. For a reseller in the UK
you can contact Unity Distribution/Logical Networks (Slough,Berks S11 4LP) at
753-696699.
Hope this helps.

(Note - I chose to reply in public (instead of my normal reply through mail) to
let anyone else who was looking for a VME FDDI card know that they are 
produced and supported :).

C.P. Thompson
Network Peripherals
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From: v1bryand@cascade.ens.tek.com (Bryan Duff)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.hyperchannel
Subject: Re: Is this group alive ?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 11:10:24 -0800
Organization: Network Systems Corp.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cascade.ens.tek.com


There are people who watch this newsgroup, especially from my company.
Most people seem to get information through our Marketing organization
or Customer Services instead of posting here.
So if you have a question regarding HYPERchannel(tm) please feel free
to post a message on this group.

Regards,

Bryan Duff                        All views are my own unless otherwise noted.
EIC Network Systems Corp       
bryan.duff@network.com


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Network Systems Corp.
bryand@cascade.ens.tek.com

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.hyperchannel
From: walters@wrist.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (William P. Walters)
Subject: HYPERCHANNEL Equip For Sale 
Reply-To: admin@ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Caterpillar, Inc - CIS, Peoria, IL  USA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:25:39 GMT

Our Company (Caterpillar) has recently stopped
using our NSC equipment.  We have quite alot of equipment that we are trying to "dispose" of.
The list includes:

N400 - Network Adapter (Only 1 with 4 ports)
A400 - "       "       (At least 3)
PI418 - DEC BI BUS Interface Boards
PI350 - HP/Apollo MassBus? Boards (For DSP90s)
PI13 - DEC UNI BUS Interface Boards

Other assorted boards and cabling.  If there is any
interest in this equipment please post a reply.  We
haven't set a price on this equipment but I believe we want to get rid of it soon.

--
Bill Walters
Caterpillar Inc.
From: peter@volvo.volvo.se (Peter Hkansson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.hyperchannel
Subject: Is this group alive ?
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:32:11 GMT
Organization: VolvoData

Title says all.
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"Speaking for myself 'cause noone else does'"
Newsgroups: alt.heraldry.sca
From: mittle@watson.ibm.com (Josh Mittleman)
Subject: Re: Hello, I'm here.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:38:38 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Keywords: Dragoon

alt.heraldry.sca is a defunct newsgroup, with limited distribution.
General discussion of the SCA can be found on the newsgroup rec.org.sca.
If you cannot access that newsgroup, check with your system manager to see
if it can be added at your site.  If not, the newsgroup is available
through many private bboard systems and via e-mail as a daily digest.  

Discussion of SCA heraldry can be found on the mailing list scahrlds, which
is run out of pucc.princeton.edu by David James (vnend@princeton.edu).
General discussion of heraldry can be found on the newsgroup rec.heraldry.

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Arval Benicoeur                                       mittle@watson.ibm.com
From: trifid@agora.rain.com (Roadster Racewerks)
Newsgroups: alt.heraldry.sca
Subject: Re: Hello, I'm here.
Date: 28 Jan 93 09:39:23 GMT
Organization: Open Communications Forum



I'm not quite sure what you're getting at, here.

Do you know of rec.org.sca , the large SCA discussion newsgroup? (Called the
"Rialto" by many?

Moreach NicMhaolain
trifid@agora.rain.com
Newsgroups: alt.heraldry.sca
From: n9110536@henson.cc.wwu.edu (W. Douglas West)
Subject: Re: Hello, I'm here.
Keywords: Dragoon
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:35:19 GMT

In article <C1B7An.Iz5@CAM.ORG> dickie@CAM.ORG (Chae Dickie-Clark) writes:
>    Does anyone know of a functioning Sca Conference or want
>  to start one? 
>                           Alric
 
  Sure!  I have been looking for documentation on the term "Dragoon" for a few
years now.  I have found the reference in the OED which places the first
written occurence of dragoon at 1601 in a letter listing a load of supplies
on a ship.  I also have two books which state that dragoons were in existence
between 1550 and 1600, but give no period reference for their pre-1601
existence.  Has anyone seen a period reference for pre-1601 dragoons?
Any help is greatly appreciated. (I did find a reference in my edition of the
OED which places dragoons at 1471, but as it was in a sequence of references
that were in chronological order with the previous date being about 1730, I
figure 1471 is a misprint of 1741.)
 
(St.) George Slade the (hopefully period) Dragoon.
From: S_MARTIN@IRAV21.ira.uka.de (|S| Ralf Martin)
Newsgroups: alt.heraldry.sca
Subject: Anybody there?
Date: 21 Jan 1993 11:31:45 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: irav21.ira.uka.de
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.25

Greetings,Maids,Lords and Gentlebeings.

As I am slowly walking
the Internet\News-Mountains
I met this little Newsgroup
with nothing there for counting,
So first I took my keyboard
and then I started writing
for Heraldry and SCA
sounds for me quite inviting
an Anachronist i am
-Somebody's out there,say,
-Somebody's out there,say,
-then write with no delay

Patreik of Gleeve
Drachenwald

Newsgroups: alt.heraldry.sca
From: ARCHER@utkvm1.utk.edu (T. Archer)
Subject: Re: Anybody there?
Organization: University of Tennessee 
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:34:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.175013.37384@watson.ibm.com> mittle@watson.ibm.com (Josh Mittleman) writes:
>Hi!  alt.heraldry.sca is a defunct newsgroup, carried only by a small
>number of sites.  For general SCA discussion, please come over to
>rec.org.sca, where there are several thousand of us chatting away.  
Chatting?  You call that perpetual flame-fest chatting?
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From: DEW@ECLX.PSU.EDU (Baron Dur al-Jabar)
Newsgroups: alt.heraldry.sca
Subject: Re: Hello, I'm here...I think so anyway
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:39:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Orluk Oasis
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <1993Jan25.183838.19339@watson.ibm.com> mittle@watson.ibm.com writes:

#> alt.heraldry.sca is a defunct newsgroup, with limited distribution.
#> General discussion of the SCA can be found on the newsgroup rec.org.sca.
#> If you cannot access that newsgroup, check with your system manager to see
#> if it can be added at your site.  If not, the newsgroup is available
#> through many private bboard systems and via e-mail as a daily digest.  
#> 
#> Discussion of SCA heraldry can be found on the mailing list scahrlds, which
#> is run out of pucc.princeton.edu by David James (vnend@princeton.edu).
#> General discussion of heraldry can be found on the newsgroup rec.heraldry.
#> 
#> ===========================================================================
#> Arval Benicoeur                                       mittle@watson.ibm.com


Arval is a defunct commentator (see potato, which is the principle charge of 
his arms) of trivial nonsense.  He will often use ten words where one will 
suffice, and has been known to be smaller in person than he appears to be here 
in print (as with most heralds, when he can't use ^VOLUME^, he uses 
<vvoolluummee>.)

Dur

Dale E. Walter     |Dur of Hidden Mountain          
dew@ecl.psu.edu    |Orluk Oasis on the War Road (of Aethelmarc)

"I'm the Baron!  Ya gotta loath me!"
Newsgroups: alt.heraldry.sca
From: mittle@watson.ibm.com (Josh Mittleman)
Subject: Re: Anybody there?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:50:13 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

Hi!  alt.heraldry.sca is a defunct newsgroup, carried only by a small
number of sites.  For general SCA discussion, please come over to
rec.org.sca, where there are several thousand of us chatting away.  For
SCA heraldic discussion, you might want to join the scahrlds mailing list;
contact Kwellend Njal Kolskeggsson at vnend@princeton.EDU for information.
For general heraldic discussion, you can check out rec.heraldry.

	Arval.

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Arval Benicoeur                                       mittle@watson.ibm.com
Newsgroups: alt.heraldry.sca
From: dickie@CAM.ORG (Chae Dickie-Clark)
Subject: Hello, I'm here.
Organization: Champlain Regional College, St-Lambert QC  CANADA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 13:39:58 GMT

    Does anyone know of a functioning Sca Conference or want
  to start one? 
                           Alric
From: doreen@wpi.WPI.EDU (doreen)
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth
Subject: Seabed Mining..
Date: 25 Jan 1993 17:50:38 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

  I have a question that I think would be of interest to people in the newsgroup.... I am doing a school project on the social concerns of seabed mining as a
major mineral source in the future.  I would like to know some people's or 
group's standing on the subject as well as individual concerns people have.

  The mining would basically involve sending machinery onto the ocean floor to
dig up nodules that contain minerals such as Nickel,Cobalt,Manganese,etc.
It would serve as a major mineral source.

Please post replies..or email me directly at "doreen@wpi.wpi.edu"

If you feel this post is irrelevant to this newsgroup..sorry...

Doreen Burrell
Newsgroups: alt.cobol
Subject: Re: cobol
From: Richard_Plinston@kcbbs.gen.nz (Richard Plinston)
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:42:30 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

    >>> Is the Micro Focus COBOL compiler written and compiled
    >>> in MF COBOL

    I have used MF products since CIS COBOL for CP/M, and even the
    pre-MicroFocus ICL 1500 COBOL which was written while the
    founders of MF worked for ICL.  CIS Cobol and Level II Cobol
    were certainly written in Cobol as is obvious from inspection
    of the compiler files which do operate with the run time
    system.  The later Cobol/2 is not quite so obvious as it is
    buried in an .EXE.

    >>> must make it inefficient

    Most MF Cobols have a 'generator' which outputs executable
    code from the semi-compiled intermediate code.  On Level II
    this improves the performance by approx. 3 times.  Cobol/2
    also produces .OBJ code and the compiler can do some
    optimization.  The resulting programs are not as 'inefficient'
    as some early interpretive systems.

    Most Cobol systems are not CPU limited, but are disk I/O limited
    so the difference between the performance of an 'intermediate' (.INT)
    system and a generated (.GNT) or object (.OBJ -> .EXE) is usually
    not significant (but would be for a compiler).

    Anyway I use a multi-tasking, multi-user OS so I never sit watching
    a compile, I just get on with other useful work while the compiles
    grind away in the background under the control of make.  So
    compile time is just not an issue (for me).
From: lambert@stein.u.washington.edu (D. Lambert)
Newsgroups: alt.cobol
Subject: Re: comp-3 and ascii data representation
Date: 27 Jan 1993 02:48:26 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu



Don Nelson <nelson_don@comm.tandem.com> writes:

>In article <1993Jan26.130641.5325@mfltd.co.uk> James Fidell,
>jfid@mfltd.co.uk writes:
>>
>>In article <1k2hkgINNcvi@shelley.u.washington.edu>, 
>>lambert@stein.u.washington.edu (D. Lambert) writes:
>>> Is there a good source of information on how the numerical data 
>>> is stored in memory?
>>> 
>>> Is there a program which would analyzed the file in a systematic 
>>> way to display the numeric contents correctly, without the need 
>>> for the file pic information?
>>> 
>>> D. M. Lambert
>>> 
>>
>>I think this depends on what COBOL you are using, and what you mean by
>>the word "file" -- a file created by a COBOL program on disk ?  a COBOL
>>executable ?
>>
>Exactly.  Different implementations store numeric information in
>different ways.
>Almost every implementor spells this out in their reference manuals. 
>Read the
>manual.

>There is no way to read a data file (that is obviously what he means) and 
>figure out where the numeric information is.  There are lots of tools
>that 
>do this for you given the data descriptions.

>Don Nelson
>COBOL Development, Tandem Computers, Inc 
>nelson_don@comm.tandem.com

Thanks for the information. I do know that the numerical information
is stored in two's complement. The manual states this and the number 
of bytes required for the number of decimal digits used. Other than 
that Data General manuals do not say much about it. I have found some
very rudimentary code to convert from two's complement to ascii. I am
spliting the files records into the ascii portion and the numeric portion
and I am then going to take the first n bytes of the numeric portion, 
varying n from 1 to whatever, to see if I can determine the PICture 
clause for each numeric item. Of course the ASCII data is a snap.

I am aware of the various report writers available but as far as I know
these all require the Picture clause information to be used.

Thanks again for all your input.

D.M. Lambert
University of Washington
From: tdarcos@digex.digex.com (Paul Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.cobol
Subject: Re: COBOL automatic flow charter
Date: 21 Jan 1993 12:06:46 GMT
Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

n087ec@tamuts.tamu.edu (Hessel Kooistra) writes:
: Several people have mailed me asking about my program, so I have 
: a history and description worked up:
: 
:      I am an "older" undergraduate business analysis student here
: at Texas A&M University.  One of the courses I have had to take was
: COBOL.  With each lab we turned in, we had to turn in, (get this):
: 
:      1.  IPO chart
:      2.  Hierarchy chart
:      3.  Output design chart
:      4.  Flow chart
: 

Are they, by any chance, using Cashman's books?   I went to Midland
College in Midland Texas for one month almost ten years ago and the only
time I impressed the teacher was when I told him I had the "privelege" of
taking classes from Mr. Cashman who also, along with Mr. Keys, was a
personal friend of mine.

At least you developed something to automate the process.  I tended to
simply write the paperwork to match the program, after the program was
already finished, just like everyone else.

I think there are only two major regrets I have.  First was that I thought
of writing a BASIC to COBOL translator, but I figured there wouldn't be
much interest.  The second was when I and someone else wrote a program to
simulate a computer, and I never did anything about the name we made up,
which I had done so more than five years ago.  The name I made up for the
Program was "OS2".  IBM would be paying *me* royalties now!
From: nelson_don@comm.tandem.com (Don Nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.cobol
Subject: Re: comp-3 and ascii data representation
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:55:42 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers
X-Xxdate: Tue, 26 Jan 93 19:09:21 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d16

In article <1993Jan26.130641.5325@mfltd.co.uk> James Fidell,
jfid@mfltd.co.uk writes:
>
>In article <1k2hkgINNcvi@shelley.u.washington.edu>, 
>lambert@stein.u.washington.edu (D. Lambert) writes:
>> Is there a good source of information on how the numerical data 
>> is stored in memory?
>> 
>> Is there a program which would analyzed the file in a systematic 
>> way to display the numeric contents correctly, without the need 
>> for the file pic information?
>> 
>> D. M. Lambert
>> 
>
>I think this depends on what COBOL you are using, and what you mean by
>the word "file" -- a file created by a COBOL program on disk ?  a COBOL
>executable ?
>
Exactly.  Different implementations store numeric information in
different ways.
Almost every implementor spells this out in their reference manuals. 
Read the
manual.

There is no way to read a data file (that is obviously what he means) and 
figure out where the numeric information is.  There are lots of tools
that 
do this for you given the data descriptions.

Don Nelson
COBOL Development, Tandem Computers, Inc 
nelson_don@comm.tandem.com
No clever quotes here
From: lambert@stein.u.washington.edu (D. Lambert)
Newsgroups: alt.cobol
Subject: Re: comp-3 and ascii data representation
Date: 27 Jan 1993 03:20:15 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu


If implementaions of Cobol use different file storage formats
then wouldn't that make data files not portable?

Would each Data file from say an IBM implementation have to be converted
to ascii representation to be read by a cobol program with the same
file defintions on a DG implementation?

I thought that the data was stored the same way. Does the runtime
system have anything to do with conversion? I know that the runtile
MLS lock server prevents access to users during conficts with other
users or security definitions. This prevents corrupting data through
simultaneous write access to the files.

D.M Lambert
University of WAshington
From: bob@consult.UUCP (Bob Willey)
Newsgroups: alt.cobol
Subject: Re: Student seeking alternative
Date: 25 Jan 93 02:15:56 GMT
Reply-To: bob@consult.UUCP (Bob Willey)
Organization: CCS Enterprises, Inc.

In article <GWELKER.1.727732957@bsa3.kent.edu> GWELKER@bsa3.kent.edu (Greg Welker) writes:
>I'm a commuter (hour and twenty minutes one-way) and am presently taking
>my first programming class. Because of this lengthy drive I would really
>like to purchase COBOL for my PC and work on assignments at home. 
>However, I've been told by several sources that PC versions compatible with
>KSU's mainframe COBOL are severely out of my price range (my range is $150 - 
>$300). Is this true? If so, I would really appreciate any recommendations.

Well, I am not sure if this is what you have 
in mind, but on our BBS, there is a copy of a
shareware or public domain (don't remember which) 
Cobol Compiler that will probably meet your needs.
Nothing fancy, but pretty complete.

Doesn't compete with the $4500 compilers, but.....

CCS Tech Support BBS   (410) 476-5098   1200/2400/9600/14,400 v.32bis


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