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From: larry@angel.UUCP (Larry Tenbush)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Arrested person slithered away
Date: 18 Aug 92 06:14:31 GMT
Organization: Angel's Retreat - San Antonio, Texas



Here is something my wife found in the local newspaper.

Hope ya'll like it.
Larry


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Boa falls into grip of the law after bus station appearance
by Irene Abrego
from San Antonio Light Metro section - Sunday, August 2, 1992
reprinted without permission


A 3 1/2-foot passenger wound up behind bars after being banned from 
boarding a Greyhound bus Saturday.

The police report filed by Officer Troy Marek states: "The arrested
person became very upset and started to scare and intimidate persons
inside the bus station."

When Marek and Officer Larry Price arrived and identified themselves
as police officers, the "arrested person slithered away and tried to 
hide in a box."

The box was taken to the Downtown Foot Patrol office, where officer
Steve Stanford took charge, opening the box to reveal a 4-pound boa
python.

"We could see it didn't have a viper head, so we took out of the 
box," he said.

The reptile, dubbed "Sneaky Snake" by the officers, soon had turned 
the substation into a side show, as passers-by stopped to watch the 
police-turned-snake handlers.

"We've got canine patrol," Price said.  "Now we'll have snake patrol."

"Being that she's a juvenile, we decided to release her on her own
welfare into the custody of the San Antonio Zoo," Marek said.

The snake declined to comment on the city's proposed new animal
ordinance, which prohibits poisonous snakes but allows "constricting"
snakes such as the boa, as long as they are less than 6 1/2-feet long.

Officers think a human passenger abandoned the snake after being told
it could not be taken on the bus.
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From: weiner@bnlls1.nsls.bnl.gov (Gary Weiner)
Subject: Re:      Five-lined skink question
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:34:38 GMT

In article <92230.211508C73221DC@wuvmd.wustl.edu> doyle cozadd <C73221DC@WUVMD> writes:
>My son is in heaven--while moving some boxes from our previous residence,
>a little (~2" snout to vent) five-lined skink crawled in one of the boxes.
>The local pet shop does not seem to know how to care for one so small.
>He got some little crickets, but they look pretty big (relatively) to me.
>I'm sending him to the library to research (he's 10) tomorrow.  Anyone have
>any other advice or experience in the meantime?
>

I had this same problem when my Crevice Spiny Lizards unexpectedly had
a litter of little ones.  Nobody had food that was small enough. I was
catching small insects in the backyard (Daddy Longlegs, Roly-Polys, Ants,
Etc.) But catching enough to feed four hungry baby lizards is pretty 
tough.  

Luckily, some nice pet store person took pity on me and gave me the address
of Armstrong's Cricket Farm in Louisiana.  I ordered some 1/3 grown crickets
and those were the right size.  Be warned though, the minimum order is 500
crickets, for about $10.00 including shipping.  

I'm at work now, but if you need the address, Send me e-mail and I'll get
it from home.

		Good Luck!!!




Gary J. Weiner  | Brookhaven National Laboratories  | "I'm not a bigot,
PO BOX 715      | National Synchrotron Light Source | I hate everybody!"
Upton,NY 11973  |    weiner@bnlls1.nsls.bnl.gov     |
From: larry@angel.UUCP (Larry Tenbush)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: sick rat snake
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:19:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Angel's Retreat - San Antonio, Texas

From article <1992Aug17.175724.14441@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, by jpgraham@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John P Graham):
> I have had an emory rat snake for ~ 6 months :
> It is ~ 3.5 feet long and pretty thin.
> In the past 2 months or so I have had a problem 
> with feeding him ... he constantly 'throws up' 
> food given to him after 1 or two days.
> He has also become relatively inactive as late , 
> and is soon about to shed. I have tried to feed 
> him live mice (~ 1.5 - 2 inches in length) and he 
> takes them happily ... and keeps them for a day or 
> two !! If anyone has any suggestions as to what is 
> wrong I would greatly appreciate the help ... 
> 
> Until then, many thanks, John Graham.

A friend of mine had the same problem with a ball,  he took it to the
vet and the vet gave the snake a shot and with in 2 hours the snake took
the biggest dump you ever saw.  After that he took food and kept it down
just fine.

Good luck.
Larry

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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 19 Aug 1992 13:13:03 CDT
From: <U32872@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: Have new turtle, need info
 <1992Aug17.202502.15017@wixer.cactus.org>

I have two read ears, both about 23 years old.  For the last 15 years
they have lived happily on Purina Cat Chow and very little else.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
From: adwright@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: Chameleon question
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:26:29 GMT

In <wayne.07lp@brunz.Santa-Cruz.CA.US> wayne@brunz.Santa-Cruz.CA.US (Wayne Feick) writes:

>I visited a friend of mine recently and he had a chameleon which he let
>roam free in his house to eat flies.  He used to have two of them, but one
>was very territorial and the meek one ended up dying.

>I looked chameleons up in an encylopedia and found that they come from
>Africa; the description it gave didn't seem to match what my friend had, so
>I'm assuming his was misnamed.  From memory, his was about 2.5 inches from
>snout to vent with another 2.5 inches of tail. It liked to climbed the
>walls and screens and changed colour from brown to green when we moved it
>from one place to another.  It didn't like to be caught, but would eat
>flies from my hand.  Can anyone suggest what this little guy might actually
>be, or suggest similar lizards which would do the same job?

This sounds like an anole, often called chamelons and quite popular in 
pet shops. I had anoles when i was a kid. They were pretty mellow about
being carried around and they would eat flies off the table. I always
put them back in the cage, though I don't really know what they would
do if unsupervised. 

>I'm curious to know what else a chameleon would eat if allowed to roam
>around the house.  We have quite a few spiders here, and I would consider
>getting one or two if it would keep the spiders controlled.  Or is that
>just a bad idea I should forget about right away?

I think they would eat (or attemp to eat) any insect that moved.

>Assuming it's not a bad idea, a few other questions come to mind...

>What sort of habitat would I need to set up in the house to keep one happy?

Warm, not humid, give droplets of water on leaves or glass, feed mealworms
crikets or maimed flies. 

>Is it normal for chameleons to be territorial? If so, how much space
>should be allowed for each?

If you get a male and a female I dont think it would be a problem.

>Would a chameleon be likely to stick around the house, or would it tend to
>climb out an open window and disappear into the yard?  If it did, would it
>stick around the yard, or wander off?

You would likely not find them again if you allowed it to go out an open window but i would not be surprised if it had a favorite territory in the house (a 
houseplant perhaps?) that it would primarily stay there.

>Any information would be greatly appreciated.

>--
>Wayne Feick						 waynef@sco.com Work
>					   wayne@brunz.Santa-Cruz.CA.US Home


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From: krogers@javelin.sim.es.com (K. Rogers)
Subject: Re: UV light subsistitutes (help)
Reply-To: krogers@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, Utah
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:27:42 GMT

guppy@wixer.cactus.org (Jennifer Mery) writes:

>In article <16849CE41.S863508@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU> KAREN@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU writes:
>>I have a large iguana that needed proper lighting so I contacted the
>>St. Louis Zoo. I was told to use a blacklight white. I was able to
>>purchase the light and fixture at a lighting store for about $25.00.
>>Vitalites are not as good as a blacklight white.
>
>What's a blacklight white? I have a black light. Right now my turtle
>only has sunlight through the window.

A blacklight white is the blacklight which looks white when not lit.
The other kind is a blacklight blue which is a deep deep purple when
not lit.  When lit the blacklight white emits quite a bit of bluish
visible light as well as the UV (C&B, i.e. longer wavelengths).
Blacklight blues emit almost nothing except UV.  Blacklight whites are
what herp keepers should use between the two.  Aside from the color
when not lit, blacklight whites will have a number something like:
GE40-BL vs GE40-BLB.  BL is for blacklight (white), BLB is for
blacklight blue.

I don't know if turtles are recommended to receive UV light.  I've
only read UV recommendations for many of the lizards - no other kinds
of herps.  BTW, windows remove lots of UV so any critter needing it
should get direct exposure to sunlight if no BL is used.  You can look
at transmission charts to see how much UV is blocked per thickness of
various kinds of glass if you care to.
-- 
Keith Rogers
krogers@javelin.sim.es.com
From: 71162.3470@CompuServe.COM (Peter P Donohue)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Hi all
Date: 22 Aug 92 03:22:10 GMT


   Hello, all.  For those that thought I had died, I haven't.  This
message is a test to see if I can post messages to the Usenet.  Sorry
to say, I can't read replies yet.  Compuserve does not allow access to
the Usenet, except posting access through email (to those that know how
to do it).  Hopefully I will be able to arrange something soon so that
I can read the messages also.
   What's new.  All of my snakes are doing well.  I had 12 baby corn
snakes, of which I've sold all except for 1 female.  I also have aquired
a baby western hognose off of a friend.  
   I have graduated from Buffalo and have hit the ground running. 
Unfortunately, I seem to have stumbled a bit -  the job hunt hasn't
landed a position yet.  It looks like I will be moving out to the Bay
Area after all.  More jobs that would be of interest to me.
   Well, catch you all soon.  

					Pete

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Peter P. Donohue
Email address: 71162.3470@COMPUSERVE.COM
Formerly: V105MAHS@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU

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From: tracer@milton.u.washington.edu (David Tracer)
Subject: For Sale: Kenyan Sand Boas
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 07:35:32 GMT

I really love these healthy growing juvenile Kenyan Sand Boas, but I
really need to thin my collection.  They were captive bred and born on
3/12/92.  They've each shed 5 times and are currently eating about 2
fuzzies per week.  Oh yeah - there's 1 male and 1 female.  
If you have any questions feel free to e-mail.
I prefer to deal in the area of Washington State, but I will ship (paid by
buyer) if necessary.
Price: $175.00 for the pair.
From: LJ03933@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: *Request for Info*(Ig/Lizard)
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:19:21 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.

Here's the situation:
 A friend of mine is seriously considering turning his atrium
into a sort of giant terrarium. This atrium is situated in the
center of the house, is the access to the front door.
Size: about 12'*12' (10' ceiling).

Here's the Q's:
-What sort of Ig or Lizard would be happy? (climate: N.CA.)
-Would a 'heated rock' be recommended?
-What type of water requirements? (plan is to have at least a small pond)
-What type of plants? (is the recommended ig/lizard apt to break or tear
                       up plants?)
-More than one species? (compatability)
-What is the 'mess factor' of a recommended critter? (you know, how
                       much of a mess in regards to _poop_ etc.)
-Concerning the access to the door: any critters likely to stay out
 of the way? (Except, of course, when an unwanted visitor is at the door|)

Either Posted or E-mail replies would be great|

Thanks in advance.....
  Tamara
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
From: debra@solbourne.com (Debra Frances)
Subject: Re: What was the name of that company that made the plexi tanks?
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:45:44 GMT

Neodesha - ask for Ted.  Tell him his "annuity" sent you....  I have a bunch of
his cages, and love 'em.  Easy to clean, mite-free (no crevices to hide in), and
best of all - light, light, LIGHT!   316-325-3096
                          DEBRA FRANCES
P.S.  Great for lizard cages also.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
From: guppy@wixer.cactus.org (Jennifer Mery)
Subject: Re: Have new turtle, need info
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 07:19:02 GMT

In article <92232.131303U32872@uicvm.uic.edu> <U32872@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>I have two read ears, both about 23 years old.  For the last 15 years
>they have lived happily on Purina Cat Chow and very little else.

Wow! 23 years old! Seems that most people kill their turtles in the
first year (from all my friends who are surprised how much mine's grown.
"Gee, mine never got that big" :). Does purina cat chow float? Does
purina make turtle chow? I know they make rabbit chow and goat chow.
It'd be cool if the turtle would eat it, since the cats wont. Those
turtle sticks are costing me about $12 for 300g.

jam
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Austin, Texas | guppy@wixer.catus.org
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From: mojo@reed.edu (dimethyltryptamine)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: sick rat snake
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:42:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Aug17.214238.15197
Distribution: usa
Organization: Youth Hostile, Portland, OR Else


How often are you trying to feed him?  Sometimes a snake that's trying to
eat too often will end up returning all food to sender...

	NT
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"There's a porpoise close behind us, and he's treading on my tail."
	- the Rev. Dodgson, of course
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From: guppy@wixer.cactus.org (Jennifer Mery)
Subject: Re: Have new turtle, need info
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 09:32:11 GMT

Well my turtle is only two years old, so my big can of sticks (300g)
lasts for several months. I've read in my little turtle book (I don't
have a real turtle book :) that turtles will over eat. There was also
something about feeding them every day when they're young (like mine)
but to only feed them every other day as the get older, but I don't know
when that really is. I don't feed my turtle everyday because I'm mean
and forget to, or i don't want to wake her up (I have odd hours). 

jam

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Austin, Texas | guppy@wixer.catus.org
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
From: ted@telematics.com (Ted Goldblatt)
Subject: Re: Have new turtle, need info
Organization: Telematics Intl., Inc.; Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:37:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.202502.15017@wixer.cactus.org> guppy@wixer.cactus.org (Jennifer Mery) writes:
>I missed the beginning of this topic, but I have had a red eared slider
>river turtle for almost 2 years now, and she's lived on floating food
>sticks by Tertra called Reptomin. I've tried to feed her bug at times,
>but i think they're too big so far, so she just eats the sticks, and she
>wont eat anything if it's not floating on top of the water.
>

I also have a slider (I think - he's "taller" than most sliders I've
seen, and doesn't have the ear spots, but since he came from a canal
rather than a pet store, I couldn't ask :-)).  Over 5 years, he (it?),
has been fed almost exclusively Reptomin.  I occasionally offer
romaine lettuce (usually ignored), and used to offer Vitafly.  It
seems that the quality of Vitafly went down when Tetra bought them;
it used to be mostly whole flies, now it seems only small pieces.
When they were whole, he ate them, now he ignores them (I've stopped
offering).  It seems to be an adequate diet.  When I got him, he was
approx. 2 inches long, now he is 10 or 12 inches.  Possibly also
helping is that he lives outside, usually in a 5 foot diameter
kiddie pool, (in the "real" swimming pool when he gets the chance),
so he gets lots of sun and has a good amount of room.

For anyone else who uses Reptomin, what seems to be a good amount to 
feed?  I buy the large (300g) cans, and a can lasts about 2 weeks. 
I assume that (given that the food is eaten promptly) that it's not
possible to overfeed; is this true?

ted
-- 
Ted Goldblatt    ted@telematics.com     (305) 351-4367
    Telematics Intl., Inc.   Ft. Lauderdale, FL
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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.pets,alt.best.of.internet
Subject: Re: Jonny Cat Litter / Ferrets
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:26:51 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <kcgywld@rpi.edu> palmj@vccsouth25.its.rpi.edu (Jyri L. Palm) writes:
>Okay ferret and pet owners out there, don't buy JONNY CAT "premium cat
>litter."  It sucks.  Okay, maybe it's because I use it for ferrets, but
>it doesn't do the job.

>Aside from all that, I was rather amused at the information written on
>the bag.  It's the epitome of saying nothing with a lot of words.

>The best has to be: "JONNY CAT is the best value for your money.  A 20 lb.
>bag of JONNY CAT contains 25% more litter than 16 lb. bags, and 43% more
>than 14 lb. bags!"

>The math works out (believe it or not), but it sure doesn't make it a 
>better value.

>Other importanant info:

>"100% natural clay mined from a rare deposit makes Jonny Cat
>especially absorbent."

>AND THEN they have a section for "Other Uses" of Jonny Cat:

>"GARAGE SPILLS-sweeps up oil and grease and reduces stains"

>"TRASH CANS-a layer on the bottom reduces odors and discourages flies"

>"REFRIGERATORS [!!!!!!!!!]-an inexpensive nontoxic odor absorbent"

>"GARDENS-enhances water retention and soil aeration, promotes growth"

>All this from a cat litter!  Who could ask for more!

It's a shoe polish!  It's a dessert topping!
:-)

>So remember, when you buy Dr. Pepper, be careful!  AT ANY MOMENT, WITHOUT
>WARNING, it may just explode!

Just what the Dr. ordered?
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                                                       - D Adams
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    Ericsson Network Systems
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From: hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Subject: Re: vietnamese pot-bellied pig
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 08:05:03 GMT

M. Anne Shackelford (mas6d@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU) wrote:
: Does anyone know anything about vietnamese pot-bellied pigs?  I have many 
: questions:
: 
: 1) Are they good pets?
: 2) Are they clean?
: 3) What do you feed them?
: 4) How large do they grow?
: 5) How many years do they live?
: 6) If you are allergic to dogs and cats, will you be allergic to these?
: 7) How much do they cost?
: 8) Anything I'm forgetting.
: 
Yeah, another one:

9> How much do they cost per pound of usable meat?

(OOPS, sorry, what with the ferret recipies & all, I thought I was still at alt.tasteless). 

--

Dave Hinz  -  Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.  Obviously.
Pherrets are Phun!! 
hinz@picard.med.ge.com
From: angela@brahms.udel.edu (Angela Lakwete)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Rabbit infested with mites
Date: 13 Aug 92 11:57:58 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

We don't need a biologist to identify mites from fleas, or ticks
for that matter.  Ordinary literate folk can do just fine.  Get
an insect id book and a magnifying glass.  Mites have eight legs.
Ticks and fleas have six.  Pin 'em down with a straight pin and
have a look.
-- 
Angela Lakwete                     \  "I'm a doctor not an escalator!" 
CompuServe: 72657,1125              /                -Friday's Child 
Internet: angela@brahms.udel.edu   \ 
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From: 9125113g@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Mitch Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.pets,alt.best.of.internet
Subject: Re: Jonny Cat Litter / Ferrets
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:34:24 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University

In article <1992Aug19.203442.2205@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl> templon@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl (Jeffrey Templon) writes:
>
>Here's some goodies I had collected at one point:
>
>From a kid's Halloween costume (superman) - stitched into the
>cape was a tag saying "Warning: Use of This Device Does Not
>Enable Wearer To Fly".

Hmm, I know what you mean.  It cracks me up every time I see a juice
carton, with the words "Serve ice cold" written on it.  How else would
you serve ice?

Mitch.
From: marty@world.std.com (Marty M HaleEvans)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: bunny shampoo
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:07:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: world.BtAw0y.AAD
Organization: Cicely Public Access Unix, Cicely, AK

This brings up a question over which I was musing recently:

How does one most safely and effectively bathe a bunny?

My bun doesn't even really like to be picked up, and it's something of a hassle
even to brush him (we've never been able to brush his tummy). I'm pretty sure
it will be difficult to get him to sit still for a shampoo. I'd like to do this
because he's recently gotten a little stinky/musky. I know I need to have him
neutered, but the bare truth is that I won't have the money to do this for a 
couple more weeks at least. Any suggestions? It's not unliveable, but...

Also, I'm interested to see if there will be any answers to the question about
smelly litterboxes...

Marty and Frankie

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From: J.M.Spencer@newcastle.ac.uk (Jonathan Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Info request on foxes
Date: 20 Aug 92 10:27:42 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

bproden@ualr.edu writes:

>Hello netters!

>Has anyone here had any experience raising foxes as pets?  I've heard they can
>be litter trained like a cat.  I read a book about a tamed fox in Scotland
>who was very gentle and got along with the dog and cat of the house.  I've
>seen baby foxes for sale in the livestock section of the local paper.  Just
>wondering if they make good pets.

Of course they can be domesticated. Simply obtain one as a cub, and rear
it on a god diet. Don't expect to be able to train it though. And I
should seriously consider whether you want your house to smell like a
skunk's backside, because foxes *stink*. I mean it. Steer clear is my
advice.

--Jonathan