HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: opium@hardy.u.washington.edu (Just dance and move your body)
Subject: Walkin in memphis, KT4 and home sweet home
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 06:04:07 GMT

the kt4 thing with mrm walkin in memphis is an old techno tune from spring
92 by Shut up and Dance, however they were slapped with a suit and only
I think 30,000 copies were printed, thats what I heard anyway, and that all the proceeds had to go to charity, I got one of those singles and it was my theme song for this [past summer......when I heard mrms rip off version- they stole the whole god-damned sonfg I wanted to puke I nearly passed on kt4 because they put that song on it!!   oh I have a couple reviews:

the new saint ettienne single is really cool "avenue" so pretty!! just ...
also the sonz of a loop de loop era's new single is hot- hardcore break beat
techno with darling 4-hero remix
  speaking of 4-hero did anyone take my advice and get the callin for 
reinforcements compilation?  that is as good if not better than any
kt comp...     Oh one last thing R&S records put out a sonic solution -
beatstime single that is as good as any CofE or GTO or MNO/Khan/LOA/etc belgiun style "fierce" also has a trancey orbitalesque song on there that reminds me of "the naked and the dead"   geddit!
has anybody seen this new Aphex twin double 12" deal, and is it avail on cd
also has any one heard the new Cof E - Devilbeats?    LET ME know!
and turn down the F**ing midrange MAN!!       laterz ya all respect and
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
From: djd0873@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (p r u n e)
Subject: Re: Has MC5 anything to do with The KLF?
Reply-To: djd0873@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:43:50 GMT

In article <9227801.21982@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, moeller@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Mc Mars) writes:
>I know that The KLF sampled the quote "Kick out the JAMs" from the
>group MC5, but could anyone tell me what exactly the group MC5 actually
>is? I'm looking at a catalogue listing of an MC5 album called "Kick out
>the Jams", now does this have anything remotely to do with The KLF, or
>does it sound remotely anything like KLF stuff?

	MC5 was an early punk rock band from Detroit, much along the same lines
as Iggy & the Stooges.  Not exactly rave material, but great if you're into
punk.


p r u n e        RIT        Roch. NY, home of Kodak, Jolt Cola, and many other
                            artificial chemical substances.
From: markr@csc.liv.ac.uk (Mark Rivers)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Review: Kaos Theory 4
Keywords: review
Date: 12 Oct 92 08:40:52 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

Michael Shou-Yung Shum writes:
> Mark Rivers writes:
> > 6)   4:00  3  M R M - Walking in Memphis (Club Mix)
> 
> what is this track like?  saw the 12" (it's domestic) but didn't want to
> spend $5 on a record i haven't heard...

It's a cover (re-make?) of some well-known song about Elvis that I can't
remember the artiste/name of.  It's got a vocal running through most of it,
over a simple piano line and breakbeat ("I put on my blue suede shoes... and
boarded the plane...").  It has some really nice spacey breaks in the middle.

	Mark
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Re: Reccomend some Tangerine Dream for Techno fan, please
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 04:06:40 GMT

In article <1687913C89.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu write
s:
>I'm a techno fan and I'd like to buy some Tangerine Dream, so I'd like
>reccomendations please. I'm guessing their latest album might be the one
>to get, but what the heck? BTW I'm *not* really concerned whether TD is
>techno or not, OK? But I want to pose the question here, rather that in
>a non-techno-related group, so I'll get input from persons who "know where
>I'm coming from" so to speak. ;-)

I have several TD albums from 78 to 87 and have heard almost every other
one they've done at least once, so...   'Gaack!'  stay away from the new
stuff!  Every few years they scrap all their instruments and move on to
the new technology to supposedly keep up with the times.  Unfortunately
when they did that in late '86 for "Canyon Dreams" (a landscape video)
and their subsequent Private Music label works, they moved on to
composing on Atari computers and making that light fluffy inoffensive
yuppie jazz crap that calls itself New Age but bears little resemblance
to the 'good' New Age music of the pre-mid-80s.  Go for the older stuff,
which is more serious, more macabre sounding, and uses the same instruments
as today's techno.
I recommend --> _Poland_ (1984 double live album)
                _Risky Business_ (1983 soundtrack, import only now)
                _Exit_ (1981)
                _Underwater Sunlight_ (1986)
Keep in mind that none of this is going to sound like techno.
They're much more in the ambient vein.  Well, they were, anyway.  There's
a discussion going on in one of the other newsgroups about their live
shows, and everybody keeps harkening back to the old days (pre-Private),
which are over.

Mike
-- 
Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Who does that Moonraker song?
From: kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:51:17 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

I suppose I should've posted this a while ago...

Anyway. Six weeks ago at NASA one of the djs played a techno song which had the
_Moonraker_ theme in the background (the James Bond film). It's a kind of
ominous tune and I really would like to get ahold of it.

BTW I am not talking about the Thunderball sample in Trip II the Moon so please
don't misinterpret me.

--Kreig
raVinglunatick
kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu
From: au535@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Dagn)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Mail Order Vinyl
Date: 15 Oct 1992 03:13:35 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: au535@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Dagn)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


 

 I am looking for some good mail order

 vinyl places in Europe or the U.S.A that will accept relatively small

 orders from Australia.

 DOES ANYONE KNOW of any???

 

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From: rodal@reznor.cmw.ltn.dec.com (A Software Hooligan)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: New York Raves/clubs requested
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:58:02 GMT
Reply-To: rodal@reznor.cmw.ltn.dec.com (A Software Hooligan)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation




	Thanks Laura and Kreig

Your information will prove to be helpfull



	(turns out we had to cancel our trip, but we will do it
soon).


Brings me to another subject, Where Can I get a room cheep for the weekend
(under $150 a night) anywhere near some of the cool places, like the
village or saint marks or whatever......


	Again thanks....

	dave
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mikes@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Shou-Yung Shum)
Subject: Re: Name these songs
Organization: Rice University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:10:10 GMT

In article <Bw6zy4.JJ3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cs125b55@dcl-nxt26.cso.uiuc.edu (cs125 student) writes:
>Song #2 has the line "The year is 1999"

that would be messiah's "there is no law" (beltram remix).

yours,m
From: donato@applix.com (Donato Miranda [ext 241])
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Chicago Rave Scene/Milw Rave
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:57:49 GMT
Organization: Applix, Inc., Westboro, MA

In article <1687980B7.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.170402.20489@midway.uchicago.edu>
>disc@quads.uchicago.edu (Little Fluffy Cloud) writes:
> 
> 
>>In Milwaukee, it's generally a fun time.  The crowd is more alternative.
>>Unfortunately, there are a buncha guidos who also tend to show up, though
>                                   ^^^^^^
>Possible translation: guidos=Italians???
> 
	i feel i must respond.   guido does *not* equal italian.
the derogatory term for italians in general is WOP, i believe.
guido, on the other hand, is a derogatory term for a certain *type*
of italian, usually found only in the USA.  a guido has slicked short
hair (sometimes a little long in back), wears Z. Cavaricci's, tries to
be as tan as possible, yet at the same time, is usually racist, talks
with a brooklyn accent (even if he's not from brooklyn), and he is of     
italian descent. (i should point out that women can be guidos too (guida?);
they have BIG hair).   the thing that's funny about guidos is that they
think they're really italian, when in actuality they are nothing
like the italians in italy.
what does this have to do with alt.rave?  i have no idea!
accept maybe, guidos are the ones getting drunk and leaving at 3am
at the raves.  (you'll also find guidos in some spike lee movies :))
just to make this post seem somewat useful:  anyone out there *in* italy
that can tell us all about the rave scene there??  

100%italian/american, 0% guido
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: cyberpun
Subject: local problem
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:38:17 GMT


I have posted this to the ne-raves mailing list, but I am wondering
if this extends past this side of the continent.

Our major rave promoter here in D.C. is catastrophic.  My opinion of
their rave productions is a rather high one.  The effects are great and
so is the atmosphere.  I do however have one problem...the music.
The music gets so boring and mundane it's sickening.  What kind of
music that is played at a rave could. possibly be this bad you may ask?
It's hardcore techno.  

Now I realize some of you may have just fallen out of your chair...
"BLASPHEMY!!!   HOW CAN HE SAY THAT...HARDCORE OR DEATH!!!!"
I'll admit, I like hardcore a lot.  The rush it gives me can't be beat,
but I don't want to hear the same 145 bpm 4 bar beat for the whole
night/morning.  It seems that the raves around here are showcases
for technobands who want to show off how many percussion sounds they have
rather than anything really creative.

Another thing is that in techno comps, the level of music is a lot higher
than what is played around here.  Even the 'hardcore' comps have a good
dose of musical tones.  

Is this a problem anywhere else?  Or does everyone not consider this a
problem?

Gil "digital druid" cyberpun(k)

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: jbaron@dirac.ssc.gov (Jeff Baron)
Subject: Re: Satoshi/Marshall
Reply-To: jbaron@dirac.ssc.gov (Jeff Baron)
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Lab
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:34:15 GMT

- 
- Franki Knuckles still spins in New York I'm pretty sure. He also probably
- spins for a club or two out there. 
- 
- He was out here for a gig this summer and spun a lot of the more
- Chicago/New York house stuff.

When I was in New York this past July, Frankie Knuckles
was spinning at The Sound Factory Bar (owned and operated
by the SOund Factory people, I think, but distinct from it)
on Friday nights.  (The bar is in the old Private Eyes location.)

In addition, he seemed to be at Roxy about every 2nd or 3rd
Saturday.  My impression?  Well, I went to 4 dance clubs that 
weekend- Boy Bar, The Sound Factory Bar, The Roxy, and
The Sound Factory.  I'd say that he was good, but the music was
just a little to straight for me.  That's straight as in
unadulterated.  Good dance music comes from the store.
Great dance music is teased and manipulated into something that 
makes you feel like you've transcended yourself, something
that provides you with unlimited energy and makes you move
in ways that seemed not even possible. 

Junior Vasquez at The Sound Factory was perhaps the best
deejay I've ever heard, and I've heard some.  I walked
in at 3:30, and walked out at 8 (after having been at the
Roxy from 12 to 3) danced the *entire* time on no drugs,
with only SF supplied food and beverages, and finally
had to leave, still wide awake, when my legs would simply not
go anymore.  It was literally the most religious dance
experience that I've ever had.

Who said clubs were no good?  You just have to find the
right ones.

Jeff





Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.funky,alt.music.alternative
From: karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty)
Subject: Brothers in Rhythm
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 21:33:29 GMT

Who are Brothers in Rhythm? What are their best records?

I know them only from their remix of the Pet Shop Boys "how Can You
Expect to be Taken Seriously" (called "perfect attitude mix") which I
think is fantastic. Expecially the squeaky ping-y dripping noises
going continuously in the background. And the minimalist piano.

thanks much


Richard

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: jdrage@lambert.uwaterloo.ca (your humble friend and narrator)
Subject: Re: Rave in Detroit
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:36:11 GMT

I live near Detroit (Windsor), and I remember there being the occasional 'rave'
here and there.  Rich Hawtin used to DJ a club called Vertigo in Windsor which
was pretty good; I don't think he works there anymore but he does a gig across
the border once in a while.  Pick up the local papers Orbit and The Metro Times
and scan the ads.  A lot of the clubs have pretty good 'rave' theme nights also.

      _/   _/     _/  _/   _/_/_/ _/_/_/  [reduced signature for Mark Tompsett]
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: disc@quads.uchicago.edu (Little Fluffy Cloud)
Subject: Re: Chicago Rave Scene/Milw Rave
Reply-To: disc@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Something fatal.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:04:02 GMT

"Rave and Stimpy" is a really crappy example of a good Chicago party.  The last
good party I went to was "Biosphere", which wasn't really  a rave as far as 
music is concerned, but was as far as vibe was concerned.  DJ Dmitry from 
Deee-Lite spun an amazing set and the crowd was amped.  Everyone was amped.

The problem with Chicago is that Southside promoters who used to throw house
parties and shit think that they can cash in by throwing pseudo-raves for their
crowd so that they can charge more money.  I think that's fucked.  Their DJ
lineup is often unexciting and the party often has little energy at all. 

In spite of the scariness, though, I heard from a few people that "Rave and
Stimpy" was a good time, in spite of all the south-siders there.  (I was in
Milwaukee that weekend, I think)....

In Milwaukee, it's generally a fun time.  The crowd is more alternative.
Unfortunately, there are a buncha guidos who also tend to show up, though
the numbers are admittedly getting less and less.  There aren't any really 
good dancers in Milwaukee.  There are some fine girls though.  What's cool
about Chicago that I really can't give Milwaukee is that there are a lot of 
cool kids in Chicago.  I mean, not like 12 year olds but like seniors in HS
and first and second years in college who are really cool.

Oh, and if you feel intimidated by Chicago ravers, go up to somebody who
doesn't have a Sox jacket on and doesn't look like a gang-banger, try not
to act like too much of a dork, and start a conversation.  Even the people who
give me shady stares generally turn out to be fairly nice people...

Peace
=Jerry Dischler=|Little Fluffy Cloud|=disc@quads.uchicago.edu=
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Re: alt.netgod FAQ repost
Keywords: Lazlo Nibble outburst knee-jerk
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 05:40:34 GMT

This message will be reposted to alt.rave and rec.music.misc every 10 minutes
until someone sends me a notarized, handwritten confirmation that it has been
read by all netgods, archived at every public FTP site, translated into
Swedish, and included in an 808 State discography.

>Netgod nominations take into consideration contributions to the net, which
>may consist of:
>
>}ability to act in graceful and noble godlike manner
>}ability to detect and displace whiners
>}ability to take shit and to dish it out
>}ability to inspire and provoke hatred and hero worship via a single posting
>}rewriting existing charters to better police the current needs of a newsgroup
>}namedropping
>}humor

Also,
}maintaining FAQs

"D-oh!!!"  [Homer Simpson]  (I steadfastly deny I am a netgod.disciple).

Mike Fanatic.Orb.Orb.Orb
"The Universe is a flame war 705 cascading articles deep, crossposted to
misc.test and archived at soda.berkeley.edu and cs.uwp.edu"
-- 
Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ndc@arrakis.engin.umich.edu (Andrew C Crosby)
Subject: Re: Song structure
Originator: ndc@arrakis.engin.umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:34:47 GMT


In article <1992Oct7.151000.14945@aston.ac.uk>, heneganj@cs.aston.ac.uk (Jason Henegan) writes:
> 
> Haven't you yet realised that rave music follows the same old four-beat
> structure with the same old instruments?
> 

a. dance music generally follows a 4 beat structure for a reason: it's made
   for dancing. if you don't like that then go buy a coltrane record and sit
   at home. 
b. i don't know where you get this same old instrument idea. samplers and
   modern synthetic sounds are a lot newer then most same old instruments,
   like your typical woodwinds and brass stuff.
 
> Sad.
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>  /\ //\_/ \_//\___\	:heneganj@uk.ac.aston.cs
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andy
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
From: rogers@rosencrantz.osf.org (Andrew Rogers)
Subject: Re: Has MC5 anything to do with The KLF?
Organization: HICAM/OSD
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:02:11 GMT

In article <knhp7xl@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B)) writes:
>
>>>> I don't recall anyone even using the term 'punk' in the early '70s. 

They did, but mostly to refer to what we now call "garage band": Seeds,
Sonics, Thirteenth Floor Elevators, etc.  Lenny Kaye's liner notes from
_Nuggets_ are a prime example.

>>> You weren't reading much Lester Bangs or _Creem_ then . . . 

Lester Bangs' first paid article - a review of "Kick Out The Jams" in
"Rolling Stone" - panned it mercilessly, likening them to "13-year-olds on
a meth power trip".  LB also pointed out that "I Want You Right Now" was a
note-for-note ripoff ("Kingsmen-on-acid", as noted Lester Bangs wannabe
AWR once described it in this newsfroup) of the Troggs' "I Want You" (true;
compare the writing credits on the original LP with those on the CD reissue)
and said something like "The Troggs came on with a similar sex-and-raw-sound
approach and rapidly faded into oblivion, from where they are laughing at
the MC5."  He later made amends, of course, and acknowledged KOTJ's rightful
place in history as one of the greatest albums ever made.

>> Were YOU? 
>
>No I wasn't (I was digging in piles of dirt in the backyard, probably)...
>but I've read it since, and yes, Bangs was calling bands like Iggy and
>the MC5 "punk" back then. 

I was seeing somebody whose favorite audio accompaniment for amatory antics
was the Stooges' "We Will Fall", which I still think sounds like 11 minutes
of the Yardbirds doing "Still I'm Sad" on Thorazine, but which brings back
fond memories nonetheless.  And, yes, Lester Bangs was among the first to
extend the "punk" label to cover late-60's acts like the MC5 and the Stooges,
as well as then-current successors such as the New York Dolls (voted "Best
New Group" and "Worst New Group" in Creem's 1973 Readers' Poll!)

AWR
old fart at play

PS: Personal to Libby: can I have my copies of KRLA Beat back?

PPS: R.I.P. Rob Tyner.
From: shishka@coos.dartmouth.edu (Rich Yeung)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: another song/artist inquiry
Keywords: enquiry
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:30:09 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

pjaffe@next06cville.wam.umd.edu (Paul I. Jaffe) writes:


>	Does Anyone know the name and/or artist of a song that has a kind  
>of cat-meowing sound followed by a young British girl saying "Always tell  
>your mummy before you go off somewhere"

that's the Prodigy's "Charly"
-r.



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From: tfischer@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Thomas C. Fischer)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Sunday School in Chicago
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:16:34 GMT
Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications (NCSA)


Ok, Chicagoans (mainly Jer, I guess, as it seems he's the only one who
occassionally posts from the city...), does anyone have any clue about
the quality of the upcoming Sunday School events?  This starts on the 
18th.  I'm gonna be up this Sunday, and would like to find something fun
to do.  

Opinions on Sunday School?


many thanks,

tom


tfischer@ncsa.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: vidarh@stud.cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen)
Subject: Re: MAIL ORDER Vinyl
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:17:16 GMT


> I am looking for some good mail order
> vinyl places in Europe or the U.S.A that will accept relatively small
> orders from Australia.
> DOES ANYONE KNOW of any???

Some friends of mine have just started doing mail order. At the moment, they
have techno from lables as R&S and some Detroit abd UK stuff. 

E-mail me for details! 

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From: au535@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Dagn)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Airplay for DEMOS in Australia
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:17:18 GMT
Reply-To: au535@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Dagn)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 Anyone with DEMO tapes/pressings that would like airplay

 please contact me....

 I do a Radio programme here in Sydney Australia and also

 play at some Raves/Clubs/etc.

 

 e-mail: u8912548@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au

         or au535@cleveland.Freenet.Edu

 

 or by snail mail:

 

 Michael Dagn,

 19/59 Whaling Road.,

 North Sydney, 2060

 NSW, Australia

 

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Music Dance Aesthetic   Saturday Nights   10pm-2am   2RSR   88.9MHz

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