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From: ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Word 5.0 DIE DIE DIE!
Date: 11 Oct 92 08:08:42 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: swiss.ucs.ubc.ca

In <tal691.718779218@huxley> tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald) writes:

>Word 5.0 isn't a word-processor. It's Windows for the Mac. It has its
>own printer drivers, its own applications, and its own filing system.

What?!?!? How do you get the idea that Word 5.0 has its own printer
driver? Word 5.0 uses the standard Apple drivers period.
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From: lederman@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Postal BARCODE and WORD mailmerge
Date: 13 Oct 92 10:31:37 EST
Organization: United States Coast Guard

    You should certainly get the latest publication from the
 Postal Service.  The Bar Code requirements have changed greately
 from their original form.  You can now print the bar code just
 above the address, making life a lot easier.  The tolerences for
 the size of the bars has also been eased.  My guess is that a LOT
 of people complained about the original 11 CPI spec not matching
 any commercial printers.

    Generating the start and end characters and the check
 character is quite simple.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Word 5.0 DIE DIE DIE!
From: peake@uncavx.unca.edu
Date: 11 Oct 92 22:37:06 -0500
 <1992Oct7.151305.19892@news.cs.brandeis.edu> <tal691.718779218@huxley>
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
Nntp-Posting-User: sweeney

In article <tal691.718779218@huxley>, tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald) writes:
> Word 5.0 isn't a word-processor. It's Windows for the Mac. It has its
> own printer drivers, its own applications, and its own filing system.

Wrong. Word 5.0 uses Apple print drivers. I may be a lone voice in the
wilderness, and this is not an invitation to flame because different folks have
different needs for word-processing packages, but I have been very happy with
Word 5.0. The ability to translate file-formats without AFE makes it worth the
price of the upgrade alone, IMO, and they managed to make merge-printing an
easy process.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Steve Peake
peake@uncavx.unca.edu
peake@unca.bitnet

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> 
> I'm just waiting for MicroSludge to include Minesweeper in it.
> 
> Tonio
> 
> -- 
> Tonio Loewald            | Ph  06 290 1594 | PO Box 101 O'Connor
> tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au | Fax 06 290 1595 | ACT 2601   AUSTRALIA
>
From: lind@ils.nwu.edu (Jeff Lind)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Auto Doubler 2.0 crash-savings button
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:07:05 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Institute for the Learning Sciences

Has anyone else had AD 2.0 crash consistently when you hit the savings
button.  It actually bounces the entire finder.

My config is:  Mac IIci, 7.01 w/ tuner 1.1.1, with a over a dozen cp's and
extensions.

Is this a known problem?

--Jeff
From: psybeast@world.std.com (The UnKnown Beast)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: System 7.1 & Fonts
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:33:12 GMT
Organization: Part of the Human Race

In article <1992Oct13.195325.23349@midway.uchicago.edu> simon@uhuru.uchicago.edu (Shandor Simon) writes:
>I have been playing with System 7.1 and have discovered that you cannot have 
>more then a certain number of fonts. I don't, off hand, remember how many, but
>I think that it was something like 128. This REALLY STINKS!!!! I assume that 
>this means that I will have to shell out the extra bucks and go buy some
>program. Any suggestions?? THINK CHEEP, like system software [Apple now 
>charges for software that makes you go out and buy more software :-(
>
>
>Shandor Simon
>
>

I also  just started with 7.1, but I was not aware that there was already
a limitation of 128 FONTs!! IS THIS FOR SURE!!!!

I support people that buy the entire Adobe FONT libs, and if this is the
case, I know there are going to be some really pissed people!! or the
other side of the coin will be that companies like Fifth Generation and
ALSoftware are going to be around for some time!

As for the "work-around" personally I use SuitCase 2.1.1 from Fifth
Generation, and I would say about 99% of the people that I support also
use the same...

Hope that helps!

PsyBeast
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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Can Word 5.0 collate
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:34:26 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

mseabloo@david.wheaton.edu (Mark Seabloom) writes:


>Does anyone know if there is any way to make MS Word 5.0 collate multiple
>copies of a document when printing. I understand from the standpoint of
>printing efficiency that it makes sense to print all of one page at a time,
>but we have a situation where collating would be awfully nice.
>Good ol' MacWrite II can do this: why not MS Word?

    I think that it comes from the fact that Word doesn't do anything
but turn over the multiple copies argument to the printer, like 90% of
the Mac software does. Multiple copies is a standard option in the LW
dialog box. Amazingly enough, one of the very few things that Microsoft
does like everyone else, is something that a WP app might want to do
differently. 

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
  "I'm sorry, I didn't have my hearing aid on. Could you repeat that?"
			  -Admiral Stockdale-
From: bwolfe@trentu.ca (BEN WOLFE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Pagemaker 4.2a problems
Date: 13 Oct 92 07:42:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: trentu.13OCT199202420720
Organization: Trent University Computer Services Department
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <6445@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca>, mmt@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (Martin Taylor) writes...
> 
>System 7.0.1 tuned, Mac IIsi 17meg (no virtual memory), several inits (if that
>might be important, I'll list them, but the problems occur with most of them
>turned off).
> 
>Several years ago, I used PageMaker 1.2 quite happily to produce a book from
>a workshop.  Last year, we ran a follow-up workshop and I'm trying to do the
>same with PageMakers 4.2a.  Should be easier, right?

Frustrated with PageMaker? Join the club! I OWN PageMaker 4.2a, and have
access to QuarkXPress through work. PageMaker sits compressed and idle on
my disk and I rarely do so much as look at it. I'd delete the damn thing
and forget it if it hadn't cost so much ...

XPress is at least a generation ahead. Its tools palette makes it about
twice as fast to use, its precision leaves PageMaker choking in the dust,
and it has so many more leading edge features -- rules of any size, drop
caps that actually WORK (unlike the pathetic PageMaker addition -- what
a feeble joke that was), graphics rotated to any angle within small
fractions of a degree, multiple master pages, shaded text (any percentage),
automatic borders and insets around text blocks (which, of course, resize
with the block), automatic colour trapping that's good enough for most
purposes ...

Aldus is claiming that PageMaker 5.0, due at some unknown time in the
future, will do most of this, but by then Quark will no doubt have rolled
out another major upgrade as well.

As for the "ease of use" factor, which is supposed to favour PageMaker,
sorry, but in my experienced opinion it just ain't so.

Ah, but I'm wandering from your original message. Unfortunately, Quark
won't mix fonts in a paragraph style either. I use Nisus too, and love
the flexibility of the "Any Font" feature. To my knowledge there's no
easy solution to this problem. I'd love it if some more knowledgeable
DTP guru would emerge and contradict me though. :-)

Ben Wolfe
Green by Design
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: tonyg@spock.retix.com (Tony "Salty Dog" Goulding)
Subject: FlameFile doesn't work
Organization: Retix, Santa Monica CA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:29:43 GMT

Hey Ho!
I just downloaded FlameFile 1.1 from sumex.  For those that don't know,
its a drag-and-drop app that will render deleted files unrecoverable to
utils like Norton Unerase.
Well, its happily sitting on my desktop, but when I select anything and
drag it to the FlameFile icon, it does not get selected and the
file/folder I drag just sits on top of it.

Any ideas?
Thanks

-- 
Tony [All views expressed are mine - if anyone is to blame its me]
==================================================================
"What a waste it is to lose one's mind.  Or not to have a mind is
being very wasteful.  How true that is" Vice President Dan Quayle
From: javier@cs.utexas.edu (Javier H. Seen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: ** New version of StuffIt??? **
Date: 16 Oct 1992 20:59:33 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nada.cs.utexas.edu

Hello, World:

I've been downloading some .hqx files that are StuffIt-compressed.
It used to work perfectly with my StuffIt v.1.6, but recently I
downloaded some .sit files that cannot be unstuffed with my
application (the message says that I need a newer version coz the
compression method is unrecognized...).

So what is the version these bunch of ftp files are referring to?
And where can I download such an application (or do I have to buy
it now?), so that I can unstuff 'em?

Thanx,

--Javier
  javier@cs.utexas.edu
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From: watson@clark.edu (Dennis Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Whos been a silly boy then
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:14:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Oct8.181438.3786
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

In article <1992Oct7.161447.3248@syma.sussex.ac.uk> peterhi@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Peter Hickman) writes:
>Well I have this problem. We, a friend and I, got two copies of Excel 4.0 for
>a client and tested then on the network we made from our machines. As we were
>pressed for time we just installed them and got things running.



In the future, make a copy of the install disk (no. 1) and use the copy!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: max@currawong.bhs.mq.edu.au (Max Coltheart)
Subject: Two Ssystem 7 questions (re Statview, Nisus and DeskWriter)
Organization: School of Behavioural Sciences, Macquarie University, Australia
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 07:55:14 GMT

Question 1: I have just begun to use System 7 and Nisus 3.06. Quite
often when I want to switch from Nisus to something else - even the
Finder - my efforts to so are ignored and the only thing I can do is
quit Nisus. Doesn't happen with any other spplications. Anyone else
seen this happening?

Question 2: Many thanks to those who answered my previous question
about print spooling by telling me about the DeskWriter driver 3.1
Works very well: my only problem is that if I try Print View in
StatView the application instantly quits. Printing anything else is
OK. Any ideas why? Any solutions? I'm using StatView SE+Graphics 1.03

Help on either or both would be much appreciated.

MaxC

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.)
Subject: Re: Posting to comp.binaries.mac
Reply-To: aland@cs.brandeis.edu
Organization: As little as possible
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:38:14 GMT

Stephen Cooper <stephen@csd.uu.se> writes:

>- What's the recommended max. size of each post?  Im using 28K.  I
>figured that 32K might be the max size, and this way, theres 5K for 
>administation

28K should be fine; 30K should be fine as well...  But see below re:
whether or not to split the file...

>- I using Nuntius 1.1.1, and have test-posted to a local test group.  I
>ve tried first bin-hexing and then segmenting, as well as first
>segmenting and then bin-hexing.  Nuntius doesnt like either -- I can
>post, but I cant extract the file later.  What am I doing wrong?

The best thing to do would be to mail the whole file...  At least, if
all the links between you and the moderator (which brings me to the
next point) can handle a file of that size.  That's what I did...

>- I also have tried posting a file which is about 15-20K.  Works great
>to/from the test group, but when I sent it to comp.binaries.mac, it never
>showed up.  Sent a test posting there too.  It never showed up either. 
>What gives?  Is it a moderated group??

Comp.binaries.mac is a moderated group, with a backlog of over a
month.  Something is coming up now which I posted over the summer,
probably back around July, August at the latest.

	-=Alan
From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: RE: Floppy maintanence program.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 00:19:35 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

ramirez@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu writes:

-> I am looking for a small program which will allow floppy maintance. 
-> I need the program to be able to copy files from one disk 
-> to another, to format floppies, to change the name of files 
-> and erase files. 
-> If anyone has anything close to this, please let me know. 

what you're describing is the Finder.  Comes free with every Mac.

Sounds like you have more specific needs.  Let us know what they are, and
we'll be happy to help.

--Adam--
 
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From: adil@TSS.Corp.Sun.COM (Adil Lotia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Quicken / Managing your Money / EdScheme
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:39:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: gensym.corp.sun.com


Folks, I would like to get a package for doing some home finance
management, and am undecided between "Quicken" and "Managing Your
Money".

I have some mutual funds and it'll be nice if I can plug these in as
well to chart out the performance, net worth etc.  I had heard that,
between the two, Managing your Money was better suited for such use, but
that was a while ago and I don't know what Quicken has in it's feature
list now.

The MiniFinders in Aug. '92 issue of MacUser gives both of them a 5-mice
rating, but I feel that they are pretty easy on the mice.  [They also
gave Practica Musica a 5-mice rating, and while I like the program, I
find its user interface rather clumsy to not justify that rating.]

Can someone who has used these products send me their opinions?  These
days, MacConnection has a special deal on the latest version of MYM for
$32, so that makes it a little more attractive still.


Secondly, there was quite a favorable review in Macworld of "EdScheme"
as a teach-yourself-programming setup and I was thinking of getting it
for my wife. I know Lisp and Scheme, so I can help her if things get a
bit too rough. Again, I would like to hear your opinions if you've used
this package.


I'd prefer e-mail, but you can post as well.  I will summarize if there
is interest.

TIA,

-Adil    adil@sun.com  or adil@gensym.corp.sun.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: malay@sae.com (Bob Malay)
Subject: Wanted ALLSTATE Logo Clipart
Reply-To: malay@sae.com
Organization: Template Software
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:52:09 GMT


My company needs the Allstate Insurance Company logo to put into an application
we are developing for them - anybody happen to have one??

Bob Malay
From: Mark.R.Valence@dartmouth.edu (Mark R. Valence)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Problem Installing Excel 4.0 Help
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:53:12 GMT
 <1992Oct8.125235.19426@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>  <43826@ogicse.ogi.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <43826@ogicse.ogi.edu>
errera@ese.ogi.edu (Claude Errera) writes:

> I've had real trouble with Help, also. At first, I was unable to install
> it, but not for lack of space (the partition that Excel went on had 30M 
> free, and the startup volume had 7M free). On the third or so try, I was
> able to install it, but then couldn't get it to work. I tried 
> everything, from rebooting with extensions off to rebooting from a 
> floppy to reinstalling the system. When I called Tech support, they 
> decided I must have had faulty installer disks, and sent me a new batch
> (in other words, they couldn't come up with any tests to try that I 
> hadn't already tried).
> 
> The new disks had almost the same problems as the old. I still cannot
> access Help from within Excel. I can, however, open the Microsoft folder
> in my Extensions folder and launch Help manually. The memory setting 
> on that file is 512K, and I tried setting it as high as 2M, just to see
> if that may have been its problem. I still get the message that there 
> is not enough memory to access Help (Excel has 3.5M, Help has 2M!).
> 
> Placing Excel on my startup partition doesn't help, either. Placing an 
> alias of the Microsoft folder from the extensions folder (or anything
> in it) in my Excel folder, to make it a bit easier for Excel to find 
> Help, is also unproductive. So far, the only workaround I've found is to
> keep an alias of Help (from the system folder) handy, and launch it 
> manually. Not very context-sensitive, but what do you want for $100?

Ah, the universal bug fix - "get new installer disks."

We (or our customers, actually) have experienced this same problem,
many times over.

The problem is that Excel does not know how to properly make its own
Prefs file (which, among other things, remembers where the help file
is).  The installer, however, does know how.  So basically, you need to
get a prefs file that the installer makes and drag it to the proper
location on your hard disk.  If you let Excel create the prefs file,
help will be screwed up.

Once you have a bad prefs file, you will not be able to use help.  Once
you have a good one, you will be able to use help.

Of course, your mileage may vary.

Mark Valence
Sassafras Software
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.periphs.printers,comp.fonts
From: kayser@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Susan E. Kayser NSSDC/STX (301)513-1673)
Subject: Word 5 Equation Editor font printing problem--Help!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:25:00 GMT

I've got a problem getting various fonts to print when they are used in 
equations generated by Equation Editor in Word 5 (and inserted into the text).  
Postscript fonts that are in my printer's ROM (the usual 35) work fine.  
TrueType fonts such as New York, which came with the System, and--more 
important--such as MT Extra, which comes with the Equation Editor and includes 
the special symbols the Equation Editor needs, look fine on the screen, but 
"cannot be found" by my printer, so it uses Courier instead.  (I have the 
RealTech Laser, same as the DataProducts Laser 960, with minimum memory, using 
PostScript Level 2.)  When printed on an Apple IINTX, these fonts do print
correctly.  However, bitmap fonts, for which no outline font exists, do not
print correctly (Courier replaces them) on either printer, although again they
look right on the screen. 

When any of these fonts are used in ordinary Word text, or in equations
generated using Word's formula commands, they print perfectly. 

I don't know if the problem is in my printer (or with Level 2), or in Word, or 
in the Equation Editor (courtesy of MathType).  I've talked to a MS tech, and 
his suggestions to turn fractional widths and font substitution on/off made no 
difference; he had no other suggestions.  Can anyone tell me where to start 
looking for help?

Susan Kayser		NCF::KAYSER  or  kayser%nssdca.span@star.stanford.edu
Hughes/STX at NASA/GSFC/NSSDC
Greenbelt, MD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: peterhi@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Peter Hickman)
Subject: Re: Whos been a silly boy then
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 12:21:34 GMT

Firstly thanks  for all  the advice  about removing  the personalisation  from
Excel (even though most  of the advice  was about Word!).  The problem is  now
solved and here is  how. The Installed  version of Excel  4.0 does not  have a
data fork so somewhere in the resources is the text -- *AND* it is encrypted!!

I spent hours looking through the forks  to no avail. However it is stored  as
Plain Text in the data fork of the first installation disk program  "Microsoft
Excel Setup", so you copy  the disk and edit the  text to the required  string
with some editor such as Norton Disk Editor (as I did). The text I changed  it
to was the same size as the orrigional text so i don't know if this will  work
with different texts  however. It is  essential that the  editor you use  does
*NOT* change the modified date  of the file, as  FEdit does, Norton does  not.
This is because the  setup program checks  the dates and  bomb with a  corrupt
setup program message.

You have  been doing  this from  a backup  of disk  1 haven't  you? Good,  now
reinstall from the backup and viola bacon saved.

Thanks for all the messages offering help.
-- 
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From: schindler@rz-berlin.mpg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Wanted: Sound of the loon
Date: 7 Oct 92 11:16:11 +0100
Organization: Rechenzentrum MPG Berlin

Can anybody email me the sound of the loon or give me a hint where I
could get it?

Thanks in advance - Michael.
From: fairchil@helix.ucsd.edu (Kevin Fairchild)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: DiskDoubler/Dir.Assist. conflict?
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:00:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Has anyone else seen a conflict between DiskDoubler 3.7.7 and Norton's 
Directory Assistance II 2.0?  Specifically, when DAII is installed and I try 
to use DD to Compress to..., Expand to..., or Copy to..., DD puts up the 
Standard File box, but bombs after I press Save.  This is consistent and 
repeatable.  I tested this without any other cps or extensions.  Is this a) a 
known bug for which Norton or Fifth Gen has a fix, b) a heretofore unreported 
but nevertheless valid bug report, or c) something spurious and funky going on 
with my system?

Details:  I'm running a 4MB SE, system 7.0.1 tuned up, DD 3.7.7, DAII 2.0 
(timestamped 2:01).  MacsBug says the error is "Address Error at 0040B058 
_StripAddress +0888"  If that helps.

I hope someone can help with this, as I use both of these programs every day 
and find them both very useful.  I'd hate to have to give one up.

Kevin Fairchild
fairchil@helix.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Product Support of Educational Discount Softwares
From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 08:50:45 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

churchwell@vms.ocom.okstate.edu (Kimberly B. Churchwell) writes:

KBC> We've never had any difficulty at all getting tech support 
KBC> after purchasing academic versions of Microsoft software. 
KBC> Matter of fact, I don't recall ever being asked for a serial 
KBC> number. 

now that you say that, same here.  I simply call the support line (on my own
nickel--no big deal), the tech asks for my name in order to be cordial, and we
talk.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's effort to own the world--who cares
whether you're a legit paid customer, you get support anyway.  If you're using
Bill's programs, that means you're _not_ using the other guy's...

--Adam--
 
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