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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 22:08:16 EDT
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Blinking Lights

>     Given some of the distances involved in places like Texas, it
>can a very long wait.  As long as the vehicle is up to it, the driver
>is up to it, and the road conditions are up to it, I have no problems
>with the 90-100 mph speeds abh quoted.  Once there is traffic ...  But
>then, that is one of the road conditions, isn't it?
>
>The Ronin

      Another road condition is the unforeseeable happenstance -- an
      armadillo or antelope, say, crossing the highway and causing the
      driver to lose control.  Slow down, slow down.

      brad
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From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      Re: The myth of the "economic miracle"

Sometime last week, Marty Rosen posted a lengthy missive, the point of
which was to refute the claim that the United States manufacturing sector
ran into trouble, because

> physical plants in America antedated the
> second world war, whereas Germany and Japan (sites of the much vaunted
> post-war eocnomic (sic) miracle) had been compelled by the devastation of the
> war to retool with modern facilities.

Although the observations Marty makes in his long post may be
true, they're irrelevant, because there's a simpler refutation:  if US
manufacturers believed that their prewar plants were obsolete, all they
had to do was hire a wrecking company to demolish them and build new
plants.  If such a strategy had good prospects, the financial markets
would value such companies more highly.

The strategy is not such a good strategy, because existing plants
still have some value, and the resources that would have to be used
to build new plants had more productive uses elsewhere, such as to
expand capacity in consumer goods production and data handling.

I'm not sure that "state-supported capital formation" is the key,
either; after all, Joe Stalin laid the foundations for a Soviet
steel industry that poured more tonnage than the U.S. or Japan
almost right up to the end of the Evil Empire.  Possibly the
Protestant and Confucian work ethic had something to do with the
postwar "miracles."

Steve Karlson

Natura non facit saltum
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Greetings, Country & Howie-D,

Nice spelling guys!  Every sentence had a subject and a verb.  I especially
liked your use of "Furthermore."  I was worried VMI might not be furnishing
you guys a quality education, but I see everything is well!  Keep up the
good work.  Robert E. Lee would be proud.

Marty
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In a previous article, "Don Moore  974-4078 S/C 574-4078" (813) says:

>Just short note ...been working wll day, waiting for water heater to heat
>water, so I can soak for a while ...aching all over.  Joseph is here, and
Don, what *have* you been up to?  And you don't have a tropical storm, or
even the fizzle we got, to blame the aches on.[barometer and all that]

>is ever getting to be a little man....laughs and carries on so ...and when
>he starts crying we can give him back!  Asked Dawn to find me some bubble-
That's the best part of having grandkids, or babysitting - you get to give
them back to the parents to change, feed, burp, and otherwise clean up.:-)

>bath ... I don't care laugh...anyway showed me something Joyce uses...the
>description is almost R-Rated ...Dawn called it "slip and slide"  I told
>her if she ever used it I wouldn't let her out of the house :-)  Also,
Oooooh boy, what's the name of that stuff, Don?  Inquiring minds want to
know.  If Joyce uses it and she landed you, maybe some of the rest of us
ought to give it a try, and see what, or who, happens.<grin> 

>
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From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: Truth squad (was gleanings)

>All in favour say "aye"!
>
>AYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYE....!
>
>A.

And there you have it.  The ayes are above the nos.

Chris
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:56:23 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      tushie baby.....
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should consider starting his OWN list.....sorta like val-l, the personal
list of Valentine Smith....who got run offa history and polsci, i believe
in the days of the Gulf War.....and still, i think, has his own list....

its sorta like val against the world....
or tushie against the world....


hmmmmm....could TUSHAR be VAL SMITH???????


or just Sandy Claws the Lobster??

dan
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Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 1992 07:48:30 -0500
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Blinking Lights
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On Sat, 26 Sep 1992 ktw@mhwpa.att.com wrote:

> People blink their headlights here too, to warn oncoming motorists
> of the hidden cop on their side of the road.  It's supposed to be
> highly illegal, but I do it anyway.

Also irritates me that some states outlaw radar detectors. If they have
the capability to use a technology on me, I should have the right to detect
when that technology is being used.

-abh
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In a previous article, R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Evelyn) says:

>Gilbert,
>  According to what I've been told, women are not allowed to teach adult
>Sunday school classes because of Paul's admonitions that women are not to
>teach Scripture to men, but men are to women.  It seems silly to me.
>
*Very* silly - he also says that women aren't supposed to ask questions in
church, to wait until they get home and ask their husbands.  On the other
hand, I've been taught that a lot of things like this only applied to the
churches of the time.  It seems that Christianity was the women's lib of 
the day, and it allowed women more freedom than their husbands could handle.
<grin>

Ruth
who thinks men haven't changed much
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:23:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Truth squad (was gleanings)
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> >   Steve, Marty, and JAG:  I second the motion to continue the economic
> >      discussion on the list. I, for one, am *certainly* enjoying it.
> >   Joe P.
> --me three.
> --bayla

--me four.  Because the list personna is *not* the same as the
private personna, I can't do off list what I do on list.  So, even
though I like -abh's suggestion that the <other stuff> stop onlist,
and I want it to stop, doing it off list has no meaning.  I don't
talk <in person> to people who talk to me that way.  The onlist
stuff is posed, staged, and demands an audience.  If the audience
booes enough and throws enough tomatoes, it stops, as it *has*.
Last word on this.
--ggs (happy to be breathing the fresh air of words-l again...)
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:09:00 EDT
From:         "Rita Leonard 552-3403 (617)"
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Subject: Re: Induction (was Mensa)

------------------------------TEXT-OF-YOUR-MAIL--------------------------------

>
> There's some movie during which Faye Dunaway seduces the guy she's
> playing chess with by caressing the bishop.  Maybe someone on the
> list knows the title and the story.
>
> Steve Karlson

Oh Steve,

Now I will be driving myself crazy all night!  The guy in the movie is
Steve McQueen.  It was filmed mostly in Boston.  Fay Dunaway plays an
insurance investigator and McQueen is a master thief.  He is planning
a big job, she knows it but can't prove it.  He knows she knows, etc.

Evelyn, HELP.  I bet you know.  The theme song was sung by Noel Harrison
and was called something like 'The Circles in Your Mind'.

Rita L. (who realizes that to drive myself crazy will not take very
          much gas)
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 11:35:48 EDT
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              1 Oct 1992 11:25:00 EST from <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>

Neal, you're not BOB; I know BOB!
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Date:         Sun, 4 Oct 1992 21:20:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Rashmi's Perception
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> Tushar writes:
> >                                      There have been some postings which
> > have shown remarkable inconsistencies about the poster's perception of the
> > list and their role in it. All I would like to say is that list is important
> > enough to think out these things first. Just like "real life".
>
> I give.  I'm certain that this passage has some profound significance which
> is eluding me at the moment.  If anyone reading this has better luck with
> it, I'd appreciate your assistance.
>
> rashmi

rashmi *honey*:
Here we are depending on you to live up to your reputation as
Miss Perceptivity, and you post something like this?!!!
I think it has something to do with the <greater scheme of things>.
--ggs
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Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:16:13 EDT
From:         "(Rashmi)" <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      RE: blinking lights
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              at Sep 27, 92 1:56 pm

>
> The Germans and Belgians (anyone else?) have cameras attached to radar
> gizmow.  You get the ticket in the mail.  They tried it in the Great State
> of Texas for a while, but folks kept shooting the contraptions once it was
> discovered where they were.
>
> -Mka

They tried those in NJ for a while, but discontinued their use due to some
legal snafu, am not sure of the details.  Ken, who really lives in Noo Joisey,
probably knows.  I remember the press made a big deal about the "getting a
speeding ticket in the mail" bit.

rashmi
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Date:         Sat, 3 Oct 1992 08:57:16 -0500
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Border Grill lowdown
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On Fri, 2 Oct 1992, Emily Horning wrote:

> Well, I just got back from dinner with Karen and Karsten - Marilyn Garber was
> a no-show, unfortunately! We still had a great time, even though the din in

Figures.

-abh
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 12:02:44 EST
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Navel-gazing
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>Please - no more navelgazing of your collective navels...the rest of
                                 ^^^^
>us are getting VERY VERY tired of it.
 ^^
>'Nuff I say. ENOUGH!
>Agnes

What's w/ these pronouns?  Isn't it *we* who were navel-gazing...and
we who are equally tired of it?  Agnes, no one on the list is exempt
(except VMIers).

Karen
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Date:         Sat, 3 Oct 1992 12:16:43 -0500
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Deconstructing the Feud
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On Sat, 3 Oct 1992, (Graham Toal) wrote:

> Well, Bayla, it depends on what you mean by 'direction'...  in
> the southern hemisphere the sun apparently traverses the sky right to left

You mean it rises in the west?

-abh
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:47:00 CDT
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      re: borders

Tattered Cover in Denver ...

Well, that's the price I pay for going nomail in the summer!
I stopped off in Denver on the way east from SF after a conference.
I stopped to ride the coasters at Elitch Gardens and Lakeside, and
won some money in Central City.  Had I known there was such a well
regarded bookstore I'd have visited it.

Steve Karlson
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From:         harwell@SMTPGATE.TECHRSCS.PANAM.EDU
Subject: Re: Anne on faked addresses
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>As you wrote to Chris. You wrote that TO CHRIS! What a scream!


Bullshit, it was you, Tushar.

-abh
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Blinking Lights
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On Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:17:00 PST Lobstrosities Unite said:
>NOT!!! Cops chasing speeders to not have their radar guns poking out the
>window.  Also, radar guns are not wired into the speedometer. He would
>therefore have had to have his radar out the window, it would have had to been

Wrong.  They do NOT have to be out the window.  Many work thru the
windshield.  And regularly do.

Some also ARE wired in and know his moving speed, either thru
speedo or thru another signal to ground to tell car speed.
And the unit automatically does the figuring......


Whether Ronin tells literal truth in story matters not....but the
story is certainly possible....

                                  dan
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From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (61)
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Now that my serious work is done, I have a moment to respond to
the Gleanings 61:
.
>  2) FF contest (Gilbert)
.
This probably needs no explanation after the events of the past
few days.  Family Feud Contest, based on the popular daytime
TV quiz show on American television. Before the show, the audience
is polled to see how the majority answer to questions like:
"Name something that you buy at the corner drugstore."  Then, two
families compete, trying to guess what most people said.
There is always a lot of screaming and jumping up and down and
laughing and crying, sort of like what went on here at WORDS-L
last Monday night.
.
> 18) CSL... (Gilbert)
.
Had to look this one up in my notebook.  CSL - Can't Stop
Laughing.  I said this in response to the brad signing his post
"Colonel in the Postmodern Confederacy", which struck me as the
most ridiculous thing he every said, that *that* is saying a
lot.
.
> 24) Linda Ellerbee/Houston Baker (Steve K.)
.
Linda Ellerbee is a well-known TV commentator who evokes very
strong responses from hopelessly conservative folks, such as
Karlson.  Houston Baker is a prominent member of the academic
community, a professor of... uh.... either English or Comparative
Literature.  He is Black, 40-ish, and very much in demand for his
ability as a speaker.  He is, BTW, and most importantly, an
acquaintance (though rather casual in a professional way) of
Professor Giggles,  who has met him and heard him <speak>.
Karlson was using these names to attack -ggs for his political
stance, which was a little to the left of what SK finds
appealing.
.
--ggs
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Thanks, brad.  That was really a very positive thing for you to
do.  I appreciate that a lot.
--ggs
p.s.  And I just learned a new <word>: scansion.
p.p.s.  If the WHTMINJ does materialize, I dedicate it to you.
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From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: I *KNOW* WHO YOU ARE
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> Round 2.  I thought that the "winner" would simply be the person whose
> Round 1 answers were most like the majority answers -- i.e., the person who
> thinks most like everybody else.  Now I see that you don't have to share the
> views of the other people -- you have to guess in Round 2 what those other
> views are.  Right?
.
Right.  Perfect.  I have made myself <clear>, for once at least.
.
>
> One thing that I was concerned about was whether you were going to post
> the Round 1 responses -- as in who was named most often as "most obnoxious"
> or whatever.  That was never part of the game, was it?
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

oh, natalie, natalie, natalie.  That was the *point* of the game.
Now I'm afraid everybody is going to be upset.  I thought it would be
<all in fun>, but if you (or you-all) think that will humiliate and
insult, then I wont do it publicly, but just send it to anybody who
wants to see the tallies (with no reference, of course, to who said
what).....  Don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, really.  Is
anybody out there going to get upset?
--ggs
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From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: stupidity
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> You know that legend about how women living together synchronize their
> menstrural cycles to each other so that they eventually are all cycling
> roughly together?
I thought that was science, not legend.  Isn't it related to something
floating through the air or something like that?   Not pheromones, but
something like that.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

I thought it *was* pheremones--the studies were done w/ sweat from
women who were determined to be 'controllers' for other women.

Karen
who is still catching up on old mail
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Subject:      Re: AND THE WINNER IS!!!!

>though. Rumours have it that quite a lot of underhanded dealing
>and dirty work went on in the capture of certain categories.
>
>tushar

I am shocked at the suggestion that there was dirty work afoot in the
forest.  Have all the WEC docs been filed by those low-lifes who
campaigned?

-Mka
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In a previous article, "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 " (815) says:

>What would be a good, not necessarily unabridged, dictionary, and
>a good thesaurus to equip a study room for college students with?
>
As an undergrad, I had a Webster's Collegiate, but got more use out of my
paperback Cassel's French/English dictionary.  The dictionary I like is
a prehistoric Webster's Unabridged, but those things tend to be huge and
un-cheap with a capital Un.  The Random House dictionaries can be gotten for
a lot less sometimes, if you know where to hunt.  As for thesaurii, go for
something on disc - the paper ones in my experience aren't worth the trouble.
Again, the foreign language dictionaries were more help.  A genuine Roget's
is about the best of the bunch.  Other people's mileage may vary.:-)
>
>(I would be grateful for serious suggestions, btw)
Well......how seriously you take them is up to you.

Ruth "french dictionary as spell-checker" H.

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From: ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU (Dan Lester)
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              3 Oct 1992 16:10:43 CDT from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

On Sat, 3 Oct 1992 16:10:43 CDT Natalie Maynor said:
>My own attitude is that it's ok to forward anything that appeared on an
>open list or on usenet to anybody else, including another list.  I ask

   I agree completely.

>But I feel free to quote from other people's publications in my own
>publications without asking their permission.  And I don't remember ever
>having been asked if somebody could quote something from my publications.

   Yup...and last time I asked Will (Shakespeare) for permission to quote
he never even answered my damn letter sent clear the hell to London,
so I'm never gonna ask him again....creep.....

>> here writing notes to people we have never or just barely met,
>> when we could be out doing something useful...stopping wars, hunger,

   Gee, its not pot calling kettle black....or irony....but it IS
pretty damn stupid....for this person to not only be writing to folks
never met, but even getting pissed about it....who the hell CARES who
does what to and about whom when they are folks you haven't met....
I mean wars....who ever met any Iraqis or Bosnians, much less ones that
are bleeding or starving or dying???

>precariously.  My point:  I didn't sit down to start writing notes to
>people I've never or just barely met until doing something in hopes of
>stopping wars, hunger, etc.  :-)

   Besides, you've met most of us anyhow....

dan
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