From: scotts@CS.CMU.EDU (Scott Safier)
Subject: Chaney Surrenders!
Originator: scotts@MORPHEUS.CIMDS.RI.CMU.EDU
Keywords: proper use of commas, coming out
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 00:11:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.174427.11112@csus.edu> chaneysa@nextnet.ccs.csus.edu (Steve Chaney/Dennis Hall) writes:

>Hey Scott Safier and Keith Cochran!

later...

>You should really get smart, Cochran, Garvin and Safier: your attempts to

I wondered what happened to Susan.  Maybe Chaney/Hall really believes that
Susan and I are one person.

>Do you want to continue ranting and raving about my coming across "pride =
>power" which you happen to also use?

Your little third-of-five will do anything for you, my big bad borgie-boy.

>How about Gay Pride stealing "Gay Pride" off of the African American
>movement? We used the word "Pride" way before you ever dreamed of using it.
>It was called "Black Pride." We even used the fist icon, which you now use
>as a logo of militant gay pride.

A few years ago, I read a newspaper editorial that claimed that
Judaism's monogamous, heterosexual marriage caused the rise of Western
Civilization.  I was incredulous.  Now Chaney/Hall/borgie-boy tells me
that the African American rights movement invented ethnic/cultural
pride!  And, it wasn't until the 1950's and 1960's that it was
recognized!  Wow.

POC seems to think that the leaders of the African American civil
rights movement in the 60's would mind other groups borrowing the word
"pride"? (is Chaney/Hall accusing himself of stealing "pride" for the
anti-abortion movement?)  I guess he thinks these leaders were as
petty and vindictive as he is.

>I can go on and find other facts showing how YOU STOLE OFF OF BLACK PRIDE
>and their tactics in particular.

I'm glad that you are researching the gay civil rights movement.  I
think it is important to have a sense of the movement when coming out
and dealing with your own homosexuality.  I'm also glad that you are
making the connection with other 20th century civil rights movements.
Keep up the good work, girl-friend!

Remember, National Coming Out Day is Sunday!

>Then again, if you want to get back to the abortion issue and be free of
>the threat of further full-scale embarrassment (such as Scott Safier's
>"There's no Consitutional right to bear arms"

Honey, what I said was that the Second Amendment's words "militia" and
"people" indicate that it refers to a right of the states, not a right
of an individual person.  But this debate does not belong on
talk.abortion, so I won't conduct it here.  Your conduct, signature
and personas do appear to be proper topics to t.a.

> stay off of my "pride = power" slogan and
>stop accusing me of stealing anything.

No one accused you of stealing.  What I said was that I was
glad you were finally coming out of the closet.

>"Gay pride" activists have stolen a hell of a lot and has no business
>accusing ME of anything. Why don't you concentrate your venom on those
>loonies in Oregon with their Proposition Nine, and leave smarter folks like
>me, alone?

In other words, leave the loonies on talk.abortion alone?

>You should really get smart, Cochran, Garvin and Safier: your attempts to
>hurt my character or make me hurt my own character, are utterly failing and
>are causing similar backfires like this, in your face, constantly. If you
>know what's good for you, in the mental health sense, you'll leave me
>totally alone, and go pick on someone else.

This has got to be the stupidest thing I ever read.

>Suggestion: Remember all those clinic bombing religious fanatics who rise
>to do battle with you, in your dreams? Go play with them and leave reality
>to those who actually DWELL in reality - myself, Martin (good job you're
>doing with Adrienne, Martin!), Nyikos, Clausen, Mrs. Forgach.. the smart
>folks. :) 

No, this has got to be the stupidest thing I ever read. What happened
to DOD? 

>          The scorecard for the pro-choicers is racking up, folks! 

Does this mean we're winning?

Sutt (corwin+@cmu.edu and garvin+@satan.cs.cmu.edu)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh