From: jad@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (John DiNardo)
Subject: Part II, BUSH/CLINTON: Co-Conspirators in CIA Drug Smuggling Industry
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:21:54 GMT
Followup-To: alt.conspiracy
Keywords: Bush/Clinton: Co-Conspirators in CIA Drug Smuggling Industry


        I made the following transcript from a tape recording 
        of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station
               WBAI-FM (99.5)
               505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl.
               New York, NY 10018       (212) 279-0707

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                        (continuation)
PAUL DeRIENZO:
	Let's jump to another name that comes up in this -- a fellow 
	by the name of Larry Nichols, former employee of the State 
	of Arkansas. He was an employee of the Arkansas Development 
	and Finance Authority. Now I have an Associated Press article 
	that came out just a couple of days ago [stating] that Larry 
	Nichols has dropped a lawsuit that he had instituted in 1990 
	against Governor Clinton that came after his 1988 dismissal  
	from that state job for misuse of agency telephones.
	Can you tell us who Larry Nichols was?
	
MARK SWANEY:
	Yeah. This is probably the most interesting part of the story. 
	You see, Larry Nichols is the source of all these rumors, 
	and the Jennifer Flowers thing, and the Governor's sex life.
	The story that the press has not yet picked up on is the 
	fact that Larry Nichols was a big time Contra supporter. 
	He has close connections to Mario Colero, Adolfo Colero 
	and Jack Singlaub. In fact, he served with General Singlaub 
	in Vietnam. He spent the first half of the decade working 
	for the Contras in connection with an organization that 
	General Singlaub had. He spent time with the Contras on the 
	ground in Honduras. His job was to collect military information.
	Now I've met with Larry Nichols. This information that I'm 
	about to give you he has told me directly. And we have checked 
	out a great deal of what he's told us and everything that he 
	has told us has checked out totally accurate.
	
PAUL DeRIENZO:
	So what we're seeing here is a connection between the mistress 
	sex scandal and the Iran-Contra and the Governor of Arkansas. 
	There's a connection.
	
MARK SWANEY:
	Well, what you find out here in a minute is that the sex 
	scandals really have nothing to do with it. I saw his lawsuit 
	several months ago when I was in Little Rock and it was of 
	no interest to me. I didn't even bother to make a copy of it. 
	But Larry Nichols, the man, and his relationship to the 
	Governor is extremely interesting. You see what it is is 	
	that his job was to make military analysis of the situation
	in Honduras with the Contras. And to take that information 
	back to the United States and package it and present it to 
	Congressmen who are in favor of Contra aid with a view toward 
	convincing them that the Contra's were an effective military 
	fighting force --that they could win militarily against the 
	Sandanistas. At some point around `85, I believe, this job for 
	Larry ran out, and he didn't have any money and he approached 
	Governor Clinton. Now according to Larry, he and Governor Clinton
	are close friends, have known each other for a long time, in 
	fact, before the Governor was the Governor.  He asked Governor 
	Clinton: Hey I'm broke I need a job.   Well it's not too usual 
	that somebody could just call up the Governor and say I want 
	a job and the Governor says sure we'll make you Marketing 
	Director for ADFA. That's the Arkansas Development Finance 
	Authority, which figures centrally in Bill Clinton's 
	relationship to the Contra resupply network that the state 
	of Arkansas was so heavily involved in.  In any case he was 
	there working at ADFA and someone at ADFA, a fellow employee, 
	had found out about this guy that was working with them who 
	was this romantic jungle fighter type of character. And 
	eventually she began to talk to some friends about it and 
	word reached the ears of a reporter and a reporter began 	
	to investigate Larry Nichols, wondering what this big Contra 
	supporter was doing working for ADFA.  Everyone who holds a 
	top position at ADFA is directly appointed by Bill Clinton.
	In fact, ADFA is a total invention of Bill Clinton's. 
	He created the agency out of thin air and appoints all of the  
	top directors. In any case, a reporter approached Bill Clinton 
	in Japan and started to question him about Larry Nichols. 
	Wanted to know what this guy was doing on state payroll -- 
	if he was lobbying for the Contra's, or just what the story 
	was. Mr. Clinton, rather precipitously fired Larry Nichols 
	directly after that. And the story that was put out was that
	he was fired for misusing state telephones -- that he had
	supposedly made hundreds of calls to the Contras and ran up  
	thousands of dollars worth of bills to the Contras. That is an 
	unsubstantiated allegation. In fact, on Larry Nichols suggestion, 
	the organization I work with received his entire phone records 
	from ADFA, through the Freedom of Information Act, and went over 
	those phone records with him, call by call, and we did not find 
	any records of calls by him outside the United States on 
	those phone records so it was a phony charge, and Larry Nichols 
	was, in fact, wrongfully fired. They made up this story that 
	he was calling the Contras in order to get rid of him.
	
PAUL DeRIENZO: 
	Why do you think that was?
	
MARK SWANEY:
	Well I don't know the exact reason but I can tell you this: 
	that Larry Nichols and Buddy Young, the man I mentioned earlier, 
	are very close friends.
	
PAUL DeRIENZO: 
	Well that's a point that you just mentioned: that Buddy Young was
	the State Security man who discovered the airplane. The allegedly
	stolen airplane belonging to Terry Reed was, in fact, in a certain 
	airport hangar. 
	
	
MARK SWANEY: 
	Everything to do with that. In fact, the federal judge is on record 
	as calling Buddy Young a liar in Terry Reed's trial. But see -- 
	Larry Nichols and Buddy Young knew each other and are close friends 
	according to the newspaper accounts that were in the newspaper 
	down here in Arkansas yesterday. They're old buddies.
	
PAUL DeRIENZO:
	Yes, well that's what the Associated Press report that I'm looking 
	at right now says; that Nichols dropped his lawsuit after consulting
	with Buddy Young.
	
MARK SWANEY:
	Yes.  Now I'm going to say something right now which is rather 
	shocking. This is the first time this has been made public, 
	to my knowledge.  A member of my organization, who is going to 
	be at a press conference that we're having tomorrow, spoke 
	with Larry Nichols. We've been in contact with him for several 
	months, off and on on the telephone, and he's had a conversation 
	with him sometime around the first week of January, during 
	which Larry Nichols told this member of my organization that 
	Buddy Young had called him and told him that he, in fact, was  
	a dead man. That was under threat of death.
	
PAUL DeRIENZO:
	Buddy Young was?
	
MARK SWANEY:
	No. Larry Nichols. And at that time, Buddy Young was frightened. 
	He was not threatening Larry Nichols personally. He was saying 
	that we're all in trouble with this because there's a move in 	
	the Governor's office to get rid of me.  So Buddy Young was 
	afraid that Governor Clinton was about to axe him in the same 
	way that he axed Larry Nichols.  And so serious did he take 
	this possibility that he informed Larry Nichols directly that 
	he was a dead man.
                              (to be continued)
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       This is one of countless stories unveiling the deeply corrupted    
       and subverted state of our theoretically democratic Government.
       This story makes disgustingly obvious the fact that patriotism
       is not the waving of flags, the tying of yellow ribbons and the 
       supporting of the Government, just because it happens to be ours.
       You don't support cancer just because you happen to have it.
       Patriotism is telling the truth to the people of our country
       in order that they may unite to conquer the anti-democratic
       cancer that is gradually destroying ours and our children's
       freedom. So please post the installments of this ongoing series
       to other bulletin boards, and post hardcopies in public places,
       both on and off campus.  That would be a truly patriotic deed.

       John DiNardo

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