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From: JRBANGA@poppy.ucdavis.edu (JULIO RODRIGUEZ BANGA)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Crimen en Concordia University
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:20:41 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20


 Hola a todos.

 Lo que relato a continuacion no tiene relacion directa con Espanna, pero creo
que es de interes para todos los lectores de la lista que se dediquen a la
investigacion.

 Ayer por la mannana lei en la lista sci.research una serie de postings de un
tal Dr. Fabrikant (Dept. of Mechanical Engineering, University of Concordia,
Canada) en los que este hombre denunciaba la explotacion a la que sus jefes le
tenian sometido. Basicamente, sus jefes firmaron gran cantidad de sus trabajos
sin tener ni pajolera del asunto. Llego un momento en que se nego a que tales
tipos siguieran parasitando, y entonces empezaron a hacerle la vida imposible.
El Fabrikant este parece ser un cientifico de primer orden en Mech. Eng..
 Si quereis mas detalles, ir a sci.research y leer alguno de los muchos 
postings suyos (es toda una novela, la verdad). El tono desesperado de sus
ultimos postings es demasiado.

 Pos bueno, ayer por la noche estaba cenando y, viendo las News, se me pusieron
los pelos de punta: un tipo en Concordia University habia tomado rehenes y ya
se habia cargado a dos. Hoy por la mannana comprobe que era el Fabrikant.

 Bueno, seguro que a los que estais metidos en el mundillo de la investigacion
os suena eso de los jefes que lo firman todo, y aquello de que 'o me pones o
vas de...'. Seguro que podriamos hablar un rato sobre el tema.


  Saludos (y tranquilidad)

                                   Julio.
From: diaz@davidsys.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: <None>
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:09:19 PST
Organization: DAVID Systems Inc, Sunnyvale CA

Hablande de restaurantes en el area de la bahia (San Faoncisco), tambiem he
oido buenas cosas de Gernica que esta en Marin county. Segun me han dicho,
hacen buenas paellas.

Tanbien qiero decir que en Winters es donde se celebra todos los a#os
el Pic-Nic espa#ol el Domingo del Labor-day Weekend. La comida es a base
de steak y beans pero tanbien tienen bocatas de chori. Por las tarde
tienen jovenes bailando sevillanas y jotas to trajes a proposito para
cada baile. Una buena manera de pasarse el dia.

- Manolo
From: mvinuela@CC.GETTYSBURG.EDU (Miguel Vinuela)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Ref: wimp
Date: 1 Sep 1992 18:08:41 -0500
Organization: ESPANA-L - soc.culture.spain Gateway
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Miguel Vinuela <mvinuela@CC.GETTYSBURG.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


 >
 > Un colega y yo queremos saber si hay una palabra
 > que equivalga a la voz inglesa 'wimp'?
 > Tambe voldria jo saber si n'hi ha una en catala?
 >
 > Gracias/merces
 > Toni Pila Esposito
 >
No en una palabra, pero "Juan Lanas" se aproxima.

Miguel
From: pe24+@andrew.cmu.edu (Pedro Escudero)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Re: Recetas
Date: 30 Aug 92 13:46:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.oecI6dS00YV783=GN6
Distribution: world
Organization: Masters student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


La verdad es que si alguien tiene esas recetas nos har'ia un favor si
las mandase a la red. ? A qu'ien no le apetece un cocidito ?. Mi
especialidad son las tortillas de patata, el bacalao ( como se dice eso
en ingl'es?   ) a la vizcaina y los calamares en su tinta. Si aa alguien
le interesa s'olo teneis que pedirlo.

Pedro Escudero
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
From: nilo@atdigarfield.cern.ch (Nilo Segura)
Subject: Re: Ref: wimp
Reply-To: nilo@atdigarfield.cern.ch
Organization: CERN. European Center for Nuclear Research
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 06:31:06 GMT

In article AA23198@cpuserver.acsc.com, U17801%UICVM.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Renato Barahona) writes:
>
>On Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:00:55 GMT Mauricio P Barahona said:
> >In article <7342@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu>
> > eanthony@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu (Esposito Anthony) writes:
> >>Un colega y yo queremos saber si hay una palabra
> >>que equivalga a la voz inglesa 'wimp'?
> >>Tambe voldria jo saber si n'hi ha una en catala?
> >>
> >>Gracias/merces
> >>Toni Pila Esposito
> >>
> >>

Juraria que en un comic ( Batman : The Cult )  que lei hace unos meses, utilizaban la palabra de marras refiriendose al chulo de las prostitutas, tendria que mirarlo de nuevo de todas formas.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
From: mauricio@athena.mit.edu (Mauricio P Barahona)
Subject: Re: Ref: wimp
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:31:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.063106.3352@dxcern.cern.ch> nilo@atdigarfield.cern.ch writes:
>In article AA23198@cpuserver.acsc.com, U17801%UICVM.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Renato Barahona) writes:
>>
>>On Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:00:55 GMT Mauricio P Barahona said:
>> >In article <7342@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu>
>> > eanthony@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu (Esposito Anthony) writes:
>> >>Un colega y yo queremos saber si hay una palabra
>> >>que equivalga a la voz inglesa 'wimp'?
>> >>Tambe voldria jo saber si n'hi ha una en catala?
>> >>
>> >>Gracias/merces
>> >>Toni Pila Esposito
>> >>
>> >>
>
>Juraria que en un comic ( Batman : The Cult )  que lei hace unos meses, utilizaban la palabra de marras refiriendose al chulo de las prostitutas, tendria que mirarlo de nuevo de todas formas.
>
>---
>** Nilo Segura                         phone (41) (22) 7674372
>** Database Support for Engineering    e-mail nilo@atdigarfield.cern.ch
>** Accelerator Technology Division            nilo@cernvm.cern.ch
>** CERN
>** Geneva - Switzerland  
>
>

      "wimp" <> "PIMP"
                 ^^^^
      PIMP: chulo, proxeneta, rufi`an.

    mauricio@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
From: pires@vxcrna.cern.ch (ALVES)
Subject: Re: lista iberia@athena.mit.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 02:46:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.131311.22104@athena.mit.edu>, burgos@athena.mit.edu (morrosko) writes...
>>Yo me considero ibero pero tengo un pasaporte portugues. 
>>Me sinto excluido...
> 
>Iberia: Usa tus alas...
> 
>	:0)
> 
> 
>			Joaquin

No de un atlas, pero de un dicionario  ("The American Heritage Dictionary"):


   Iberia:  an ancient name for the Iberian Peninsula.
   Iberian Peninsula:  The region of south-western Europe separated from 
            France by the Pyrenees and consisting of Spain and Portugal.

Probablemente te referias a:

   Iberia:  The ancient name for the region roughly corresponding to the
            modern Georgian S.S.R.  [hoy, Rep. of Georgia]

           :-)

---Rui
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
From: AR.MSG@forsythe.stanford.edu (Scott Gould)
Subject: Spanish Language
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:18:33 GMT

Has anyone found a fun, easy to use computer program for learning
Spanish? Macintosh programs preferred. Any information would be
gratefully appreciated!  (Phone #'s, cost, availability, etc.)

Scott


Please reply to:

ar.msg@forsythe.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
From: pires@vxcrna.cern.ch (Rui)
Subject: Re: lista iberia@athena.mit.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:50:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.215544.20069@athena.mit.edu>, burgos@athena.mit.edu (morrosko) writes...
> 
>Dicha lista ha sido primariamente creada como el canal comunicativo 
>entre tots aquellos individuos del Instituto Tecnologico de Massachusetts
>que estando en posesion de un pasaporte espan~ol o sintiendose afines 
>a la cultura de nuestra tierra, quieran an~adirse a ella. 
> [...]

Yo me considero ibero pero tengo un pasaporte portugues. 
Me sinto excluido...

---Rui
From: U17801%UICVM.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Renato Barahona)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Ref: Guardias Civiles Bastardos
Date: 30 Aug 1992 18:16:56 -0500
Organization: ESPANA-L - soc.culture.spain Gateway
Distribution: world
Reply-To: "Renato Barahona" <U17801%UICVM.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


On Sun, 30 Aug 1992 17:42:58 -0400 Pedro Escudero said:
>Hombre Juan, me parece que te has pasado con el titulo. No conozco si
>has tenido alguna experiencia desagradable con la guardia civil, pero de
>ah'i a extendernos en generalizaciones hay bastaante diferencia. La
>verdad que un poco horteras si que son por lo del tricornio pero que yo
>sepa el significado de la palabra bastardo es bien diferente.
>
>Animo campe'on y no te cabrees.
>
>Muchas gracias por las noticias.
>
>Pedro Escudero

Ya era hora que alguien lo dijera. Bastardo y "bastards" no tienen nada que ver
en el idioma "real" (es decir en el hablado). Creo que esto podria haber surgid
o por un "posting" de hace varias semanas titulado "Basque bastards"  Se referi
a a una accion de ETA en la cual habian muerto -- es decir, ETA habia asesinado
 __ a dos guardias civiles.  Claro esta, que esto es pura conjetura mia. Mas al
la de las ideas(no s'e donde sera) hay que tener muchisimo cuidado con la termi
nologia. Si no, no vamos a tener la mas perra idea de lo que queremos decir.

Renatp
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
From: mauricio@athena.mit.edu (Mauricio P Barahona)
Subject: Re: 'wimp'
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:00:55 GMT

In article <7342@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu> eanthony@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu (Esposito Anthony) writes:
>Un colega y yo queremos saber si hay una palabra
>que equivalga a la voz inglesa 'wimp'?
>Tambe voldria jo saber si n'hi ha una en catala?
>
>Gracias/merces
>Toni Pila Esposito
>
>


Sin el diccionario cheli en la mano, se me ocurren unas cuantas:

   cobarde, achantado, cobardica, nenazas, calzonazos, "cagao", ...

   Cela o Umbral seguro que saben m`as.

Mauricio Barahona     MIT Physics
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
From: delval@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Alvaro del Val)
Subject: Re: Direcciones de restaurantes
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:38:45 GMT

In article <16542@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> JRBANGA@poppy.ucdavis.edu (JULIO RODRIGUEZ BANGA) writes:
>In <9209020552.AA36350@cpuserver.acsc.com> serrano@ATHENA.BERKELEY.EDU writes:
>
>>

>  Paco, ?podrias dar la direccion exacta del Esperpento?
>
>  Para los del SF Bay Area y alrededores: hay un restaurante vasco cerca de
>Davis que esta muy bien y no es muy caro. Se llama Arnaud's Basque Restaurant,
>y la direccion es 1123 W Grant Av, Winters. Tfno. (916) 795 3404. Tienen un
>cabrito, huummm!!!.
>

Pa' los susodichos sujetos de la Bay Area: el Basque Cultural Center,
(o Basque Center, o algo semejante), Centro Vasco para los amigos,
tiene un restaurante excelente. 599 Rail Road, South San Francisco
(salida a Grand Ave. desde la 101), (415) 583-8091. Se de otro
restaurante vasco en North Beach (el barrio italiano de SF), pero no
tengo la direccion a mano (esta en una bocacalle de Columbus, 3 o 4
calles antes de Union. Buscad, buscad, :-) Precios moderados en ambos.

> Saludos,   Julio.

Saludos, Alvaro
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
From: hcls7@jetson.uh.edu (Marino, Nancy F.)
Subject: Re: Ref: Receta: Bacalao a ......
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:12:00 GMT

In article <9209010120.AA58484@cpuserver.acsc.com>, Gabriel Basco <@acsc.com,@cpuserver.acsc.com,@acsc.com:pirates!demasie!colega@GATECH.EDU> writes...
> 
>Dos preguntas.
> 
>1. Como se dice bacalao en ingles? Se puede comprar salado aqui en los
>   EEUU?
> 
>2. Que he hecho? No tuve que preguntar sobre recetas. Vaya tortura leer
>   las recetas y no poder hacer nada. Yo es que de cocinar, nada.  Si
>   no es sacar la comida de una caja y ponerlo en el micro-ondas, me
>   muero de hambre.
> 
>| Gabriel Basco           "Andaluz y Rociero, pa' que ma'!"                  |
>| UUCP: gatech!pirates!demasie!colega Internet: colega%demasie@armstrong.edu |
>| SnailNet: 101 St.George Blvd.3-M;Savannah,GA 31419  AT&TNet: 912.925.1726  |
>| ICBMNet: 81 05 37 W / 32 04 42 N                                           |

     Lo que es bacalao fresco es cod o codfish en ingles. Si lo quieres salao,
es salt cod. Se vende en USA, pero no en todos los sitios. Normalmente se
encuentra en las ciudades donde hay italianos, espanoles, etc. No gusta mucho
al paladar americano. 
     En cuanto a la segunda pregunta: vaya problema que tienes. Ya podias
aprender a hacer algo. Tampoco es tan dificil.
Nancy Marino
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.korean
From: phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi)
Subject: Re: All you d*ckhead friend-betraying Koreans!!!
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 20:26:00 GMT

In article <9223618.1419@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby) writes:
>The subject line says it all...
>
>all you f***ing d*ckhead, selfish, dishonest, friend-betraying
>Koreans...

This is a good time for Koreans to understand how Japanese people feel when
they are accused of their goverment's decision.

James Choi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: shao@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SHAO CHUNG-SHANG)
Subject: Re: Korean Bashing (Re: All you d*ckhead friend-betraying Koreans!!!)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 06:01:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.044140.12057@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>
>>one question: in united states, a president candidate A has more votes from
>>              american people than candidate B does.  will the candidate A 
>>              be the next president?
>>              
>>the answer is: not necessary.
>
>The answer is, it has happened exactly once since the electors begun to be
>voted as slates rather than individuals (Harrison over Cleveland).
>
>The point is, while the electors, even before they were voted as slates,
>were voted in by voters, the Tze1 Shen1 legislators were not, by the people
>who are still under the direct control of the Republic of China government.

sorry, i don't this is a complete explaination.  the basic unit in the
american president electio is not individual person.  the basic unit is
vote representative of a state.  the number of the representatives which
one state has, is determined by the population of that state.  if one
candidate wins in state A, all of the representatives of state A must 
be given to the candidate.  the candidate who can get more number of the
representatives will be the next president.  by the simple arithmatics,
you can find that winning in the number of the representatives does not
mean winning the number of real individuals.
so, from the aspect of individual, it isn't reasonable.  it is against the 
wishes of the major population.  is this democracy?

>The point is, I feel that Lee has as much popular mandate as Gerald Ford
>(that is, not much).

sorry, don't understand the meaning here.

cs shao.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: old Her[4] and Christine
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 07:35:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.101808.3683@vax.muskingum.edu> ericlaw@vax.muskingum.edu (Eric Law, Geology Department) writes:
>
>	** Exactly, don't be a problem. 
>
>	   Not only don't be a problem to the society, more importantly, 
>           don't be a problem to yourself.
>
>	   If you decide to advocate TI, you are likely to WASTE at least
>	   ten years of your life for just a dream, an ugly dream.
>
>	   Identify yourself as a "Chinese" and discard TI.

** Exactly, don't be a problem.

Not only don't be a problem to the society, more importantly, don't be a
problem to yourself.

If you decide to advocate Lithuanian independence, you are likely to WASTE at
least ten years of your life for just a dream, an ugly dream.

Identify yourself as a "Soviet" and discard LI.

I am not a TIer, but I think your logic is seriously flawed.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: handd@tramp.Colorado.EDU (handd)
Subject: Help wanted
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:07:46 GMT

Hi,

Does anyone know how a fan can Connecte his(her) favorite taiwanese singer?

thanks


Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.korean
From: cyc@z.eecs.umich.edu (Yi-Chieh Chang)
Subject: Re: ROC-terminated-South Korea
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:48:48 GMT

>   To sum up, I don't think Korea is our friend.....( I mean Korea government
>and Korea companies, not Korea people.... ), Korea always is our economy
>enemy......
>
>
>Don't angry about Taiwan-terminated-Korea..... We should happy......said that
>From now on, when we see Korea people, we don't need to say "We are Friends"
>Because Korea always still our enemy.......... Don't lie ourselves.......
>

To name a business competitor as enemy is too narrow mind. U.S. economy has
been seriously hurt by Japanese products, but American never name Japanese
as their enemy. This world is full of competitions and this is the driving
force for the progress of human kind in the past many hundred years. So, we
should thank our competitors instead of blame them.
Besides, if we could give Korean another choice, such as Taiwan
independence, I bet Korean will be more than happy to recognize both China
and Taiwan. Unfortunately, KMT always stubbornly want to fight for the
representation of China with PRC.

Yi-Chieh

Yi-Chieh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.korean
From: li@sicvax.enet.dec.com (Tong-Kang Li)
Subject: Re: Language
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:13:07 GMT


In article <7975@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU>, chang@curtiss.seas.ucla.edu (Fengteng Chang) writes...
>In article <1992Sep1.041228.6428@engage.pko.dec.com> li@sicvax.enet.dec.com (Tong-Kang Li) writes:
> 
>>I have only read literature written by Taiwanese writers which published
>>recent fifteen years. Have you read any Hakka and Taiwanese aboriginals 
>>literature?
> 
>There are many famous Taiwanese writers who are Hakka.
>Wu2 Jo2-Liu2, Chung1 Li3-Ho2, Chung1 Jao4-Jen4, Li3 Chiao2
>are all Hakka writers.
>In their novels, the dialogs are certainly Hakka style.
>There are several aboriginal writers in the last decade
>who wrote poems and novels.

Yea, I recognized Chung1 Li3-Ho2 and Chung1 Jao4-Jen4 and have read their 
short stories. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.korean
From: txc6266@ultb.isc.rit.edu (T.X. Cheng )
Subject: Lie/Truth
Originator: txc6266@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:41:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.054128.2877@oakhill.sps.mot.com> peng@oakhill.sps.mot.com (C. Ray Peng) writes:
>In article <78246@ut-emx.uucp> zing@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Leon Z. Lee) writes:
>.....
>>If it is any consolation to the ROC, Korea has been a faithful ally
>>with the Chinese for the past 50 years...which is the best track record
>>than any other nation could come close to.  Remember how the British dumped
>>the ROC in order to keep their colony of HK, remember how Japan dumped
>>the ROC to secure better investments on the mainland, remember how the
>>US dumped the ROC to use mainland china as a pawn in the Cold War ?
>>Given this record....the Koreans have been more than faithful and
>>patient with the ROC.
>
>Wrong!  Korea is no different than any of these countries.  It wants
>to recognize China all along.  It is China who, with a close tie with
>North Korea, keeps ignoring the "friendly gestures" from South Korea. 
>On international political platform, there is no such thing as a
>faithful ally.
>
>-peng
>-- 
>+===================================================================
>| C Ray Peng  		                peng@oakhill.sps.mot.com
>| I speak only for myself.  Motorola doesn't pay me to speak for it.
>+===================================================================

My Dear Taiwanese Friends,

    The article above tells very clear what S. Korea thought before she
    establish diplomatic relationship with PRC.  Who said that S. Korea
    was ROC's loyal blooded friend was a lair.

Tzyh-horng Cheng
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: shao@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SHAO CHUNG-SHANG)
Subject: Re: ROC-terminated-South Korea
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 19:05:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.134049.8253@csd.brispoly.ac.uk> c_tsai@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (C Tsai) writes:
>Today I read about Taiwan-terminated-Korea news from British TV,.....
>I find that some Taiwanese are very very very very angry.....fucking
>Korea behavior and stop all of airline with Taiwan and Korea........

this action is not because the goverment is angry.  do you think that
korean government will allow the planes which carry the our national
flag landing in korea?  definitely not. they have already admitted only
proc.  so, terminating all flights is a logic action.

>   In fact, when I heard this news, I am not surprise that Taiwan and
>Korea terminated all of the diplomatic...... So when I heard this news
>, I haven't no feeling about it.   It is quite silly and stupid.....

i believe most of us don't feel surprise.

>   In fact, we have been said Korea are our best friend before.....
>Do you think Korea is our best friends?????? I think it is 1992 best Jokes,
>because we know that Korea always is our economy enemy.... Why we want to
>said Korea is our friends....  In international trade.... Taiwan and 
>Korea always competed each other......  Taiwan now win Korea about internationaltrade in the world ( Taiwan money reserve is
>Number 1. in the world) And about Korea only has car quite famouse in the
>world....... 

is there any true friendship between one country and another country?
i doubt this. 8)  i think human beings, or i should say those politicians,
are too stupid to recognize that there is a possiblity for the friendship
between countries.

>   Now we told about the mainland China.... From Mainland China began to 
>Economic reform..... So many Taiwan companies or factories move to Mainland
>China..... We know that Taiwan companies want to use Mainland China cheaper
>labors......etc.   But we think about Korea.......  Korea also want to use
>Mainland China cheaper labors...or something else....  In fact we can stop
>all of trade with Korea....but you know that it is nothing..... because
>Taiwan and Korea seldom trade each other..... Two countries aims USA trade,
>so who can made a cheaper products and who can win????  

>   To sum up, I don't think Korea is our friend.....( I mean Korea government
>and Korea companies, not Korea people.... ), Korea always is our economy
>enemy......

this is quit true in some aspects.  competition is the true relation between
countries. 8(

>Don't angry about Taiwan-terminated-Korea..... We should happy......said that
>From now on, when we see Korea people, we don't need to say "We are Friends"
>Because Korea always still our enemy.......... Don't lie ourselves.......

do you suggest that we call them 'enemies', when see them?  8)

cs shao.
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