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From: kemius@aau.dk (Ulrik Serges)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Italic g in Times-Italic ?
Summary: Which version of Times-Italic has an italic g?
Date: 29 Jul 92 09:10:49 GMT
Organization: Aarhus University, Denmark

When I look in books, I find versions of Times differing in the italic g.
Some versions use a roman-style g, and some use a italic-style g.

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    /    \         /     \
    \    /         \     |
    -----           -----|
   < _____              /
    <_____>         ----

  Roman style    Italic style  (I hope you can see what I mean.)
(with two eyes) (with one eye)


Which version of Times uses the Italic-style g in italic?

Linotype's (and Adobe's) Times Roman edition uses the Roman style.

Monotype's Times New Roman PS (a version of Times New Roman with
character widths identical to Times Roman) also uses the Roman style.

What do the original Times New Roman use? And Times-Ten? TrueType Apple
Times? others?

And: which is the version of Times New Roman, Adobe sells? Is it the
PS-version or the original?

Ulrik

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Ulrik Serges                 E-mail: serges@kemi.aau.dk
Chemistry Department                 kemius@aau.dk
Aarhus University
DK-8000 Aarhus C, Denmark
From: dodel@CAM.ORG (Jean-Pierre Dodel)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Truetype Specs
Summary: Anyone has TrueType Specs??
Keywords: font
Date: 30 Jul 92 02:31:16 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, QC CANADA

Does anyone have specs for truetype fonts? 

thanks..

-JP

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                       Jean-Pierre Dodel
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: ketil@edb.tih.no (Ketil Albertsen,TIH)
Subject: Needed: Scalable musical symbols
Reply-To: ketil@edb.tih.no
Organization: T I H / T I S I P 
Posting-Front-End: Winix Conference v 92.05.15  1.20 (running under MS-Windows)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:48:59 GMT

For the MS-Windows environment I need a font containing common musical
symbols: notes, clefs, accents etc. The font must be scalable (ATM or
TrueType), and either very cheap or freeware.

A while ago, I looked through the fonts catalog at cica, without success.
I have noticed that there now are a number of TT fonts there, but fetching
them all, installing them and inspecting them one by one is a tedious job.
So, I would prefer if someone could point out to me a little more directly
where such a music font can be found.

Thanks.
From: churchh@ut-emx.uucp (Henry Churchyard)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: International Phonetics font
Summary: mac.archive.umich.edu ftp.cica.indiana.edu
Date: 22 Jul 92 07:32:06 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas

In article <Brr0r4.A7K@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>, scimeddd@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Library of Sciences and Medicine Document Delivery) writes:
> I'm looking for a font which contains all the phonetic symbols. 

   You didn't specify which platform and font-type were needed.
There's several type 1 fonts (with accompanying bitmaps) for the Mac on
mac.archive.umich.edu, and its mirror on wuarchive.wustl.edu:
Tech-Phonetic (Based on Goudy Old-Style) and Sapir-Sans are in the
mac/system.extensions/type1 sub-directory, while Palatino-Phonetic is
in the linguistics/fonts/mac subdirectory (some of these fonts are
also distributed with a Truetype suitcase).  Of these fonts, at least
TechPhonetic has been ported to Windows 3 with Adobe Type Manager, and
is available on ftp.cica.indiana.edu.  (If you want to convert the
others to IBM format, instructions have previously been posted in this
newsgroup as to how to do this with publically-available programs,
provided that the Macintosh font is distributed with an .AFM file.)
  If you want TeX fonts, I can't give you much help, but I know that
some stuff is available on csli.stanford.edu.
  I think there's an "official" IPA font for the Mac available
commercially from the International Phonetic Association (it might
possibly be distributed through the UCLA Linguistics Dept./Phonetics
Lab), and there are other commercial implementations such as the Stone
IPA font.  (A special Mac postscript Phonetic font based on
Times-Roman, which is not a complete implementation of the IPA, but
contains a lot of Roman symbols useful for linguists writing about
Arabic, is available for a fairly modest fee from the Arabic
Linguistic Society at the University of Utah.)
--
         --Henry Churchyard     churchh@emx.cc.utexas.edu

Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: norman@a.cs.okstate.edu (Norman Graham)
Subject: Re: True Type, Adobe, & Sys. 7
Organization: Oklahoma State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 02:49:46 GMT

In article <1992Jul9.231221.25921@a.cs.okstate.edu>, I write
> 
> Also, ATM is supposed to be rolled into Apple's system software soon (7.1 ?)

From article <28237@goofy.Apple.COM>, by mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage):
> 
> Nonononononono.

Sorry for the misinformation. Now please let me try to pin things
down a bit tighter.
 
[Matt says Apple will include Type 1 font rendering in future system
 software, but it won't be ATM: meaning that Apple is not implementing
 the ATM calls used by programs such as TypeAlign.]
 
> QuickDraw GX treats Type 1 fonts just like TrueType fonts -- both are full
> graphic citizens and can be skewed, rotated, manipulated (and a whole lot
> more if line layout tables are included).  It does not support the ATM human
> or programming backdoor interface.
> 
> And it's not part of release 7.1.

Granted, QuickDraw GX (due next year) is not part of System 7.1 (due this
fall), but is the Type 1 rasterizer part of QuickDraw GX, or part of
System 7.1, or part of some future system software? Since we have the
TrueType rasterizer without QuickDraw GX, it seems sensible that we can
have the Type 1 rasterizer without QuickDraw GX also. (Of course, I want
both so I can get my hands on the line-layout manager.) 

Also, I understand that Apple and Adobe are working together on the 
Type 1 rasterizer. Can we not assume that this Type 1 rasterizer is at
least based on the rasterizer in ATM? It seems reasonable to do so.
-- 
Norman Graham
<norman@a.cs.okstate.edu>                 Standard Disclaimer Applies
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: jiang@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: Mac ATM with Type 3 fonts
Reply-To: jiang@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 18:17:39 GMT

I wish some guru on the net could tell me if there is a way to convert a
type 3 font in text format (as used in UNIX systems) to a Mac type 3 font,
or to convert it to a type 1 font in UNIX format.
A program called reAdobe can convert type 1 fonts in text format to type
1 fonts in Mac format. I also have Fontagrapher which can convert Mac type 3
fonts to type 1 fonts. But with a type 3 font in text format, I don't know
how to use it on a Mac. It seems that just changing the "type" and "creator"
is not enough. And if I open a Mac type 3 font's data fork, I can see that
the text description of the font is in a different way from a UNIX type 3
font. Why??
I feel that this is also what the original post was asking because the poster
mentioned that he had a type 3 font in TEXT format.
Thanks in advance for any hint.
From: dbarnden@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Dennis Barnden)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Where to get PC fonts?
Date: 30 Jul 92 06:45:05 GMT
Organization: University of Western Australia


I have a Mac on my desk and can find enough fonts to keep me happy but
a friend has a PC that is attached to a non-postscript laser printer
and would like to get some downloadable fonts for it. Could someone
please tell me where to start looking?

Thanks a lot
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Need info on bitstream .BCO fonts
From: jeremy@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Jeremy Gibbons)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 02:26:41 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland
Keywords: postscript font compressed outline jlaser
Cc: maeir@vms.jct.ac.il

In <2222@itexjct.jct.ac.il> cdr@itexjct.jct.ac.il ( driver research) writes:

>I received a card called Jlaser that came with a software pkg that uses
>some kind of font that has a .BCO name. (Bitstream Compressed Outline)
>
>I need to find a source for this type of fonts for a spanish and hebrew
>font. 

Try writing to Bitstream (215 First St, Cambridge, MA 02142, USA).

(What's a Spanish font, anyway? The only oddity I can think of is the
"tilde" accent over the letter N. Don't most fonts have such a thing?)

>I could also use any information about how to go about creating 
>fonts in this format.

BCO is a proprietary format, ie Bitstream won't release the details (to the
best of my knowledge). I don't know of any software producing BCO fonts, or
converting other formats to BCO.

Jeremy

*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
| Jeremy Gibbons <jeremy@cs.aukuni.ac.nz>  CS Dept, Auckland Univ, NZ |
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From: mbrinker@mizar.usc.edu (Michael Brinker)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Shareware Fonts - Copywrites/Legalities?
Followup-To: MBRINKER@MIZAR.USC.EDU
Date: 27 Jul 1992 16:17:34 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu
Summary: Questions regarding distribution of shareware fonts...


What are the legalities / restrictions on distributing shareware Fonts?

I have seen a few offers of people trying to sell compiled collections of
shareware TrueType fonts.  Are the Fonts found on "the net" and in archives
really "shareware" and if not/so how can one find out if those fonts are
copywrited or restricted.  Again, is it legal/ethical to sell "shareware"?

If anyone has any insight or understands how fonts are registered, any feedback
directed to MBRINKER@MIZAR.USC.EDU would be appreciated!

Thanks 

Mike Brinker  -=>USC<=-
From: v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jason Osborne)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: PICTorial guide to shareware truetype fonts available (MAC)
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:30:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

For those of you who are avid font-downloaders, there is a neat
guide to shareware truetype fonts available through info-mac and mac.archive.
It is a set of three PICTS which show what every font looks like,
so you don't waste your time downloading what you don't need.  It
shows every truetype font available through the internet and America 
Online.

At sumex-aim.stanford.edu it is filed under:
     info-mac/font/font-preview.hqx

At mac.archive.umich.edu it is filed under:
mac/system.extensions/font/truetypecatalog.cpt.hqx

Hope it helps!

______________________________________________________________________________
Jason Osborne | Disclaimer: Who'd listen to me anyway?
______________________________________________________________________________
For information on the Underground Phont Archive, drop me a note via email
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From: walsh@cs.umass.edu (Norman Walsh)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Mac->PC (was Re: International Phonetics font)
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:05:17 GMT
	<WALSH.92Jul22193922@ibis.cs.umass.edu>
	<ILH.92Jul23125836@winnie-the-pooh.lcs.mit.edu>
Reply-To: walsh@cs.umass.edu
Organization: Dept of Comp and Info Sci, Univ of Mass (Amherst)
In-reply-to: ilh@lcs.mit.edu's message of 23 Jul 92 17:58:36 GMT

>>>>> On 23 Jul 92 17:58:36 GMT, ilh@lcs.mit.edu (Lee Hetherington) said:
|> In article <WALSH.92Jul22193922@ibis.cs.umass.edu>
|> walsh@cs.umass.edu (Norman Walsh) writes:
|>    Just a point of clarification: the requirement that the .AFM file
|>    be provided with the Mac Type1 font has been removed.  It is now
|>    possible to perform the conversion with only the Mac screen font
|>    file and the Mac Type1 file.
|>
|> However, in the case of TechPhonetic, the AFM file contains a lot of
|> kerning information which I don't believe is contained in the Mac
|> screen font file.  This kerning might be useful on the PC.

Mac screen fonts can contain kerning information.  If pairwise kerning is
present in the Mac screen font, the program I wrote to create AFM files from
Mac screen fonts does produce an AFM with kerning information.  In the cases
that I looked at where the Mac font _did_ include an AFM _and_ used kerning,
my program produced identical kerning information in the AFM file (+/- one
design unit).

                                                   norm
From: ob00@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (OLCAY BOZ)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: designing my own TRUE TYPE fonts?
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:50:19 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <4XiPoB3w164w@waffle.sns.com>, petert@waffle.sns.com (Petert@mouse.co
m) writes:
>ob00@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (OLCAY BOZ) writes:
>
>> Hi netters,
>> Is there a shareware or freeware software for designing my own True Type font
>> for windows 3.1? Thanks in advance.
>> --
>>
>>          -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>          |  OLCAY BOZ                     |  OB00@NS1.CC.LEHIGH.EDU      |
>>          |  LEHIGH UNIVERSITY             |                              |
>>          |  COMPUTER SCIENCE DEPARTMENT   |                              |
>>          |  Ph. D. Student                |  phone : (215) 758-1886      |
>>          -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>There is a program called FontMonger out there that does just that
>(at least from what _I_ have heard.)
>
>Beware of one thing: the Windows SDK (even the NT prelim one) does
>NOT (I repeat NOT) come with a program that does ANYTHING to True
>Type faces. There is the "Font Editor" which handles bitmaps and
>bitmaps only. Just a word of warning.
>
>Anyway, it's called FontMonger, and is available for both the PC
>and the Mac platforms.
>-PT
>
>----
>petert@waffle.sns.com  (Petert@mouse.com)
>Systems'n'Software Free Public Access BBS --- (510)623-8652
>
Is it shareware (or freeware) ? If so where can I find it?
And a while ago somebody posted a mail and stated that Corel Draw 3.0 is able
to edit TRUETYPE fonts. Did anybody try it?
-- 

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         |  LEHIGH UNIVERSITY             |                              |
         |  COMPUTER SCIENCE DEPARTMENT   |                              |
         |  Ph. D. Student                |  phone : (215) 758-1886      |
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Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: ehle@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ehle)
Subject: Asian character fonts/typesetting
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 16:03:16 GMT

I'd like to hear from anyone who has experience using Asian character
fonts in a desktop environment. Ideally, we'd like our author to be
able to type in English in a word processing program, and mix the
occasional Asian word in Asian characters.  Then we'd like to pour
this into a page make-up system.  It is a tall order, of course, and
I've spoken to one software distributor who says it can't yet be done.
Anyone who has experience with anything even sort of close to this is
welcome to e-mail me or to forward this request to a related newsgroup
or bulletin board. 



-- 
		
				Rob Ehle
				Stanford University Press
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: tischer@tischer.Gwinnett.COM (Steve Tischer)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: MICR Font Available?
Keywords: MICR
Date: 30 Jul 92 11:03:36 GMT

try@support.rci.dk (Torben Rybner) writes:

> I happen to have created a MICR font (Adobe Type 1: PFB, PFM and AFM), but it
> is based on the ECMA (European Computer Manufacturers Association) specificat
> and may not be compatible with the American specifications - still you might
> give it a try. It does not print very well on ordinary laserprinters in sizes
> like 18 point and below, due to the many individual lines and spaces in the
> characters.
> 

Very interesting about the ECMA.  Does the specification perhaps address the
issue of placement of ligatures for German?  I am especially interested to 
know if there are standard places to store any of the older combinations like
ch, ll, tz, sch.  I am in the process of re-mapping some German fraktur fonts
and would like to know of any standards that exist.

Do you happen to have a source where I can get the specification?

If possible, I would like to have a copy of your MICR font work as well.

Thanks.

Steve
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: edb9140@tamsun.tamu.edu (Edward Dale Boling)
Subject: Re: CHEAP FOnt Editor
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 03:05:48 GMT

I would like any information on cheap or shareware font editors.
From: dibe@sbustd.rz.uni-sb.de (Dieter Bethke)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Background TRUMP?
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:52:10 GMT
Organization: Studenten-Mail, Rechenzentrum Universitaet des Saarlandes

Hello out there,

I just got a new font on my system named "TrumpMediaEvil". Can you tell me,
why it is called TRUMP? Is it the Font used most by Donald Trump?

What is the history of this font?

Dieter Bethke
From: v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jason Osborne)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Morals in distributing typeface
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:19:00 GMT
Followup-To: comp.fonts
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Why not simply use a font already in existence?  For example, the font TNG
Monitors might do well.  It is a font which is used on star trek: The next
generation on the monitors, is small, and future-looking.  Then you don't have
to worry about morality in copying other fonts.  Also, sillyconvalley looks
computerlike, and koshgarian-light looks futuristic, to name a few.

______________________________________________________________________________
Jason Osborne | Disclaimer: Who'd listen to me anyway?
______________________________________________________________________________
For information on the Underground Phont Archive, drop me a note via email
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Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: mtoivakk@abo.fi (Martti Toivakka PAP)
Subject: Win31 Plotter fonts?
Organization: Abo Akademi University
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1992 07:36:35 GMT


Where can I find information on how to build
plotter fonts for Win31? Or is there
possibly a conversion program available to get 
there from TT or ATM type fonts?

mtoivakka@abo.fi
From: v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jason Osborne)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: international phonetics font
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:43:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Brr0r4.A7K@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>, scimeddd@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Library of Sciences and Medicine Document Delivery) writes...
>I'm looking for a font which contains all the phonetic symbols. It must be
>the IPA (?) codes (sorry asking for a friend and don't quite recall what he
>said). Any help would be appreciated.
>thanks in advance, 
>Mark - scimeddd@gpu.utcs.utoronto.edu

The font you are looking for is called TechPhonetic.  Is is available through
any major FTP site, especially mac.archive.umich.edu and sumex-aim.stanford.edu.
It is also available through The Underground Phont Archive.

If you are looking for an IBM version, you can check ftp.cica.indiana.edu, or
drop me a line.  I do not recall what forms it is available in.  I know
it is available in truetype.

______________________________________________________________________________
Jason Osborne | Disclaimer: Who'd listen to me anyway?
______________________________________________________________________________
For information on the Underground Phont Archive, drop me a note via email
______________________________________________________________________________
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From: Petert@mouse.com <petert@waffle.sns.com>
Subject: Re: designing my own TRUE TYPE fonts?
Organization: Systems'n'Software, Fremont, CA  94539-6669
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 21:14:02 PDT

ob00@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (OLCAY BOZ) writes:

> Hi netters,
> Is there a shareware or freeware software for designing my own True Type font
> for windows 3.1? Thanks in advance.
> -- 
> 
>          -----------------------------------------------------------------
>          |  OLCAY BOZ                     |  OB00@NS1.CC.LEHIGH.EDU      |
>          |  LEHIGH UNIVERSITY             |                              |
>          |  COMPUTER SCIENCE DEPARTMENT   |                              |
>          |  Ph. D. Student                |  phone : (215) 758-1886      |
>          -----------------------------------------------------------------

There is a program called FontMonger out there that does just that
(at least from what _I_ have heard.)

Beware of one thing: the Windows SDK (even the NT prelim one) does
NOT (I repeat NOT) come with a program that does ANYTHING to True
Type faces. There is the "Font Editor" which handles bitmaps and
bitmaps only. Just a word of warning.

Anyway, it's called FontMonger, and is available for both the PC
and the Mac platforms.
-PT

----
petert@waffle.sns.com  (Petert@mouse.com)
Systems'n'Software Free Public Access BBS --- (510)623-8652
From: proth@northwest.eng.uiowa.edu (Phil Roth)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Mac ATM with Type 3 fonts
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:06:27 GMT
Organization: Department of Elect. and Comp. Engr., University of Iowa, USA.

I have a Type 3 font ( textual description of a type 3 font, that is )
and I wish to use it through ATM on a Macintosh.  The ATM manual
claims ATM will recognize ( but not scale ) type 3 fonts.  I have picked
apart Type 1 font files, and some Type 3, but have as of yet not found
a Type 3 font that ATM will recognize.

My question is: what format( resources and data fork ) does the font
need to be in for ATM to recognize it?  If anyone has gotten a Type 3
font to be recognized, please mail ( or post ) the format...

Close to giving up,
Phil
proth@eng.uiowa.edu
From: sushil@cps.msu.edu (Sushil K. Bhattacharjee)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Help requested on character stroke-widths
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:44:51 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Originator: sushil@pixel.cps.msu.edu

Hi,
I would like to know the stroke-widths, in absolute units (inches/mm),
of printed characters of different font sizes. I understand the stroke-width
varies with point-size and I assume it also depends on the type of
font (eg. bold or not bold).

If you have any information on this, I would appreciate it if you 
email it to me at sushil@pixel.cps.msu.edu.
Thanks,
Sushil
From: v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jason Osborne)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Need to find Jeff Turner
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:45:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Jeff, please drop me a note.  I need to talk to you.  If anybody knows
Jeff, please forward this, or give me his email.

Thanks!

______________________________________________________________________________
Jason Osborne | Disclaimer: Who'd listen to me anyway?
______________________________________________________________________________
For information on the Underground Phont Archive, drop me a note via email
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From: Dave.Beaujean@davespc.UUCP (Dave Beaujean)
Sender: FredGate@davespc.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Font
Distribution: world
Date: 21 Jul 92 12:55:00 EST

Hi Jason,

Thanks for the hints on the truetype library.
I need your email address to contact you.
From: ulma@coli.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Mayring)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Sabon typeface???
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:10:43 GMT
Organization: U of Saarbruecken, Dept. of Computational Linguistics

Hello people,

Does anybody know if Tschichold's SABON has been converted to postscript?
If yes, where would it be available? Unfortunately I don't possess an Adobe
font catalog, thus I can't find out myself.
(come to think of it, how much does Adobe charge for it?)

Thanks in advance,
Ulrich Mayring
volksdesign
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