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From: Andy@birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: BOB BACKLUND IS BACK!!!!
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:19:58 EST
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Keywords: Backlund's return
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In article <Bv9CC1.GsE@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, Tom Johnston writes:

> mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
> 
> >It was announced on today's Wrestling Challenge that Bob Backlund will
> >be returning to the federation.
> 
> >They showed clips from his title reign, including the post-match
> >celebration from his title win over Superstar Graham.
> 
> >In an interview, they named him as a former WWF champion, and he said
> >that he's returning to once again become the champion.
> 
> It's nice that they've acknowledged the history of the sport.  As
> a relative newcomer to professional wrestling fandom, I wish they
> would've provided more details in the clips from Backlund's past.
> Identifying his opponents in each clip would have been a nice
> start.
> 
> Tom

Thing is, if I remember the wrestler's real names and ages list, Backlund 
is 42. His return can't be for all that long, no matter how good shape he's
in.

Aw hell, even if it's for a year of final glory that would be fine. If his
last year is as good as his heydays, that would be a step in the right
direction. Maybe then Bruno would stop his annoying bitching on WCW and
anywhere else he goes.

BTW, WCW has made no mention about the "feud" between Bruno and Larry, have
they? I've noticed the two never appear on the same broadcast together.
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From: art30248@nusunix1.nus.sg (NG LING LING)
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Subject: Al Perez
Date: 30 Sep 92 06:00:07 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
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Errr...people, could anyone tell me what ever happened to the "Latin
Hearthrob" Al Perez ? I know he had a feud with Kerry Von Erich in World
Wide and later joined the old NWA. But today ? I thought he could
wrestle (i.e. act pretty well).
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Subject: Testing a newsreader
Organization: Fordham University Computer Club
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Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 09:52:24 GMT
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hello.
From: Andy@birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Scott Steiner wins TV title
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1992 04:00:58 EST
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Keywords: Steiner turn TV title
Summary: Steiner win TV belt?
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Word on GEnie is that Scott Steiner has won the TV title from Steamboat,
and Rick Steiner is out with a shoulder injury.

Another heal turn from a popular face... hmmm. Guess Watts is trying to
break everyone.

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Subject: Re: Prime Time Debut: The Kiss of Death
From: rtcst3+@pitt.edu (Robert   T Conticello)
Date: 7 Oct 92 04:01:09 GMT
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Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <BvqEEw.A9w@acsu.buffalo.edu> v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel) writes:
>In article <16054@mindlink.bc.ca>, Steve_Hooper@mindlink.bc.ca (Steve Hooper) writes...
>>Are you saying Scott Hall was in the Whiff before?
>> 
>>When, and as what?
>
>   He showed up as himself...just "Scott Hall".  Then he briefly went to the
>NWA to become (attention Keirn) the "Alligator Trapper" from the evergalades,
>Scott Hall.

    He showed up in the NWA in June '89.  Back then, he was quite a bit 
 thinner, had curly brown hair, and a moustache.  He actually wrestled as
 a "light" wrestler doing leap frogs and dropkicks rather than a power
 wrestler.  Actually, it was pretty rediculous for a guy 6'4'' to be 
 wrestling in that manner.                           
    This change in appearance when he returned as the "Diamond Studd"
 started the infamous "Steve Disalvo" thread.

 - Rob C.
From: beninsd@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: USWA
Date: 4 Oct 92 14:02:29 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

As reported JYD is the new USWA champion and is now teaming with
Hacksaw--Jacksaw--Jim Duggan against a new team with
Bertprentiss--aka--Christoper Love--as manager--the Blackhearts from "Japan"
Eddie Zgilbert was not on TV this past weekend--is he heading to new venues? 
Anybody know??  Also returning was Tom Prithcard, Danny Davis what is the
relationshoop if any between the USWA and Smokey Mountain?? Thanx.
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Subject: Re: News from GEnie
From: pmbarlow@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Dan Fielding)
Date: 27 Sep 92 17:49:04 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

Andy Patrizio writes:
>News of the GEnie Wrestling RoundTable:
>* Lou Albano may appear for SummerSlam.

Say, THIS is some well-timed information... :-)

According to my calendar, SummerSlam was taped a month ago Tuesday... the only
return that I've seen mentioned here was Roddy Piper playing the bagpipes.  No
Lou.  Could you mean Halloween Havoc, maybe?

>* WCW has postponed the WCW Lt. Heavyweight tourney

Until January 1993.  Mentioned last night on WCW Saturday Night.  And it's
somewhat of a shame, because the feud between Pillman and Armstrong would be
one hell of a lot more interesting if there was a title involved.

>* Butch Reed has been let go from WCW. Now there's a short-lived job.

No big surprise either, as he was a "no show" for last night's WCW Saturday
Night show.  This would, of course, explain why.  But I've seen Butch doing
some wrestling on the GWF shows on ESPN... and even more surprisingly, he's
doing it as a face.  But then they've got their best announcer doing Elvis
impersonations, so... accountability is at an alltime low.

>* Paul E. Dangerously is on "hiatus," and Jimmy Garvin has been "bought
>  out." I would assume that means he's gone.

Very probably.  According to some recent postings, Paul didn't fit in with any
program Watts had going, so the DA quietly dissolved, Madusa Micelli stayed
with Rick Rude, and Michael Hayes joined Anderson and Eaton. (IMHO, a very sorry
excuse for an ex-championship team)  I doubt Watts and Dangerously were/are
very good friends anyway, but then I wouldn't know.  As for Jimmy Garvin, he's
done quite a few jobs for some names in the past weeks... now if Barry Windham
can do that and come up with a tag title, why can't Garvin get a strap?  :-)


Eric Chmiel adds:
> I happened to be up this morning to watch the 9:00 am show
> on TBS.  They are running their own angles on this program or something.  
> Jake Roberts took on Nikita and Tony Schiavone said it was a grudge match
> because Jake Roberts and Cactus Jack tried to break Nikita's arm.  Did I miss 
> this, or are they talking about what happened in Baltimore?

Probably not... Jake didn't hit the ring in Baltimore until well after Nikita
had left.  This would probably have something to do with the 8-man at the
Clash, but since I didn't see it...

> Then, Steve
> Austin comes out and says that wrestling needs a dominant superstar to lead
> the sport into the next century.  He said in the next couple weeks he was
> going to go through a "startling metamorphosis" and he would reappear as the
> man who will defeat Ron Simmons.  I must have missed this too.

Nah... this is just the aftershock of the DA split-up... but if you think his
comments were confusing, if you just rephrase a few things, change a few words
here and there... you get basically your run-of-the-mill "I will be the next
champion" speech.  Nothing to be worried about.

Dan Fielding.  Enough said.
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Subject: Re: More on Center Stage taping
From: pmbarlow@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (The Candy Guru)
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:13:05 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <70195@hydra.gatech.EDU>, dsrekjk@prism.gatech.EDU ( Jon Kincaid) writes:
> A couple of other quick additions to Surfer Michael Branch's comments
> 2) the wheel does work! Jack asked Jake to let him give it a practice
>    spin and after the half hour it seemed to take to stop spinning, it
>    stopped on the space dividing the Prince of Darkness and Texas Death
>    Match spaces.

Me thinks they ought to add little tacks, and a tab to the outside of the
wheel, so it doesn't end up on a space.

> 3) The new face Michael couldn't remember was Ronnie Walker. He wrestled with
>    Z-Man in a tag against a North Georgia team that bills itself as the PYTs
>    (but can in no way be confused with the old team from Memphis) in a match
>    that drew about as much heat as any other, with the crowd chanting for the
>    PYTs to "lose some weight".

Well, if it's not Ware and Austin (can't be... Ware's in WWF right now) then it
might have been the GWF's joke version of that team... Randy Rhodes and Brian
Fontaine.  In the GWF, Christopher Love managed these guys.  You figure it out.

> 4) Scott Steiner defeated Steve Austin to defend his TV Belt in a match that
>    was scheduled to last 10 minutes and went 2 1/2 hours (ok it just seemed
>    that way. Scott pinned Austin with one second of time remaining.) No signs
>    of heel turn from Scott. My guess is that Steamboat wanted out (or Watts
>    wanted him gone) and they wanted another face to hold this belt for a while.

Probably, Steamboat wanted to go.  But any match Scott works alone is bound to
last 10 times longer than scheduled... or so you would think.

> 5) Atlas seems to be in pretty good shape and is a much better replacement
>    than Butch "I need AA, and that don't mean Arn Anderson" Reed.

One of these days, I'll ask you what you mean by that.  But anyway, I always
remembered Atlas as being in GREAT shape.  Did his stint in IWCCW change that?

> 6) Truth in advertising award goes to Rhubarb Jones who told the audience that
>    Arn and Bobby Eaton were on their way out. He probably meant to wrestle 
>    Pez Whatley and a jobber partner, but we took it another way.

Now THAT'S funny.


The Candy Guru.

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From: MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU (maurice)
Subject: Re: Old (Japanese) videos - review
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 08:39:59 EDT

In article <Bv3750.I9L@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca>
hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze) writes:
 
>- There was a bit from New Japan where all the tag teams came to the ring
>  together.  It's supposed to be from 1982, but I feel otherwise now.
>  The teams included Andre & The Hangman, Stan Hansen & Hulk Hogan, and
>  lots of others.  The ring announcements were made by Vince McMahon Sr.
>  and I thought he said he was announcing the "Madison Square Garden tag
>  tourney."  In any case, the subsequent tag matches had the letters "MSG"
>  displayed to describe the matches (which were in kanji).  Does anybody
>  know anything more about this?  Anyhow, it was weird to see Hogan & Hansen
>  work as team later.  (Since Hansen jumped from New Japan to All Japan
>  at the 1981 All Japan tag tourney in December 1981, it seems unlikely
>  that he'd be working in New Japan in late 1982, right?  So I think this
>  from late 1980 or earlier).
 
Don't know anything about that particular card, but I would place it in
1980 also.  Hogan didn't tour Japan until May 1980, and at that time
was teaming with Hansen.
 
maurice
                                                 Maurice Forrester
                                                 mjforres@suvm.syr.edu
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From: myleslee@next03pg2.wam.umd.edu (Alan Brady Ward)
Subject: Re: Backlund returns!!!
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 11:46:29 GMT

In article <92271.220746CDPYHTIL@MTUS5.BITNET>  writes:
>      Vince McMahon actually acknowledged past history with the  
announcement
> that Bob Backlund is returning to the WWF.  They actually showed  
pre-Hogan
> stock footage!  And this is from the same man who altered the Royal  
Rumble
> footage to drown out the cheers for Sid Justice!  I wonder if Backlund  
will
> have a special gimmick or will it just be like the situation with Patera  
and
> Graham a few years back.  Anyway, it'll be interesting to see how close  
McMahon
> lets him get to the World title.  Backlund vs. Flair, Backlund vs.  
Warrior,
> Backlund vs. Hogan whenever Hogan comes back...any of those would be  
cool.
> But I wonder how the marks will react to him.  Anyway, Vince could have  
a good
> thing going if he doesn't screw it up like he usually does.
> 
>                                        Chris Pyhtila

Dear Vince:

Please, above all else, do not try and stick some stuuuuuuupid schtick on  
on Bob Backlund.  Let him remain as is.  Just a normal named wrestler!!!

I know it goes against all you've done for WWF lately, but maybe that's a  
good thing?? 

Al
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From: MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU (maurice)
Subject: Re: How to make the WWF better (10 ways if possible)
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 19:28:31 EDT

In article <Bvnu2w.CzE@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>
cadesjar@lambert.uwaterloo.ca (Curtis Desjardins) writes:
 
>In article <BvGzFn.9uH@news.udel.edu> rschwabe@ravel.udel.edu (Robert Josep Schwabe) writes:
>
>>Strike One:Sid Justice,
>
>Strike One would be Ric Flair!!
>
>>Strike Two: Legion of Doom
>They would be Strike Two if they were heels and allowed to do their thing.
>
>>Strike Three: Razor?
>Oh please!  [...]
>
>        So, by my count, only Strike One counts
 
Does this remind anyone else of that Abbot and Costello routine?
Maybe you guys out to decide who's at bat before you go any further.
 
maurice
                                                 Maurice Forrester
                                                 mjforres@suvm.syr.edu
From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Subject: Re: BOB BACKLUND IS BACK!!!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 22:12:00 GMT

mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:

>It was announced on today's Wrestling Challenge that Bob Backlund will
>be returning to the federation.

>They showed clips from his title reign, including the post-match
>celebration from his title win over Superstar Graham.

>In an interview, they named him as a former WWF champion, and he said
>that he's returning to once again become the champion.

It's nice that they've acknowledged the history of the sport.  As
a relative newcomer to professional wrestling fandom, I wish they
would've provided more details in the clips from Backlund's past.
Identifying his opponents in each clip would have been a nice
start.

Tom
From: Andy@birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Mr. Perfect spotted
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 00:08:29 EST
Reply-To: uunet!tension!birdland!andy
Keywords: Henning Gold's Gym
Summary: Guess who's getting a work out?
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I knew being a member of Gold's Gym would pay off... I walked in this 
morning and whom do I see on the Stairmaster? Why, Mr Perfect Curt Henning
himself. After I got out of the changing room he was in the dumbell section,
doing side bends.

For the uninformed, a side bend is when you put a dumbell in one hand, your
free hand behind your head, and you bend sideways in the direction of the
dumbell. Then you straighten back up again. It's designed to work the
obliques, or "love handles."

He could use it. From what I could see, Curt is not in his best shape. His
gut hung over his sweat pants, although it wasn't that bad. Just a little
pot belly that's easily fixed with some exercise.

Anyway, he split before I had a chance to approach him. He didn't look like
the friendliest dude in the world, anyway. Anyone here ever get a chance
to talk to him?

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From: v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: WCW Right Now
Date: 6 Oct 92 04:17:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


   There has been much to do about the unpredictability of WCW's booking lately,
but you won't find me complaining.  Why in the world would anyone complain
because you can't see angles, match outcomes and title changes coming from a
mile away?  For God's sake, WCW is currently as exciting as it or the WWF has
been in years.  Think about it: 
1) Did you expect Scott Steiner to win the TV title?
2) Did you expect Windham/Rhodes to win the tag belts?
3) Do you know for sure what the match at HH will be for the tag belts??  It
   might be Pillman/Austin, or MVC, or even the Steiners.  Which reminds me...
4) What's going on with Scott Steiner?  Was that a heel turn or not?  And if it
   was, where does that leave Rick?
5) Did you even expect Pillman/Austin to form a team?
6) You may have heard rumblings about a Windham heel turn, but who expected it
   just after he won the tag belts with Dustin?
     Combine all this with the normal current angles (Rude/Chono, Pillman/
Armstrong, etc.) and when you stop and think about it, this is as good as the
booking has been in WCW/NWA in many a moon.  All this and the westling (as
Robert McMullen pointed out in a previous post) is heating up to heights
unseen in the bigs in North America for years.  Weren't those Pillman/Armstrong
matches good?  And don't they beat the hell out of Repo Man vs. Santana?
   Not flaming, but I think some people are thinking in terms that wrestling
should be traditional and predictable, with every angle telegraphed.  I don't
think so.  Myself, I love the uncertainty that WCW's angles have right now.
Imagine: I can actually turn on a westling program and wonder what's going to
happen.  Do you really think Ramon/Flair will beat Savage/Warrior at Summer
Slam?  I doubt it.  I was skeptical at first, but give it a chance.  It
really is fun to watch WCW again.

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From: yyz@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (donald.w.coons)
Subject: Re: Asking marks
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 14:32:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.132814.7549@ac.dal.ca> jsteeves@ac.dal.ca writes:
>In article <mjenkins.716520943@cunews>, mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
>
>Curt Hennig is Bret's brother-in-law too?!? I knew Neidhart, Davey Boy,
>and the Dynamite Kid were his brothers-in-law. How are they related?
>Is Curt married to a Hart or Bret married to a Hennig?
>

This is a wrong statement. If you look at the wrestling relations that is
posted here, you will see that Henning is married to Greg Gagne's sister
not a Hart sister. So much for those Henning/Gagne fueds in the AWA.

Don Coons
dwc@wnb3b2.att.com
From: v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel)
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Subject: Re: WRESTLING IS A SHAM !!!!!!!!!
Date: 29 Sep 92 04:35:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>And I *thought* that was John Tenta I saw winning the Superstars
>competition on ABC last year... 8')
> 
>-- Larry


   And it wasn't William Perry either.  I just fly of the handle when people
get down on wrestling because it's "fake".  I tend to make extreme statements
like the one about wrestlers being better athletes than football players in
these instances.  Keiji Muto is a far better athlete than William Perry, and
Deion Sanders is a better athlete than Typoon.  So what?  The point is
totally without meaning and I just said it because it seemed to serve my
point better than the same old arguments always used to defend the legitimacy
of wrestling to boneheads like the guy who started this "sham" thread.  Sorry
if I offended anybody by actually insinuating that some wrestlers might be
good athletes.

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From: Andy@birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Jack's fall
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 14:36:44 EST
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Keywords: Cactus Jack on the floor
Summary: OUCH!
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WCW Power Hour showed another mat classic featuring a much skinnier Cactus
Jack taking on Mil Mascaras. This had to be some years ago, because Jack
was about 50 pounds lighter.

Anyway, Mascaras was in the ring, Jack on the outside on the edge. He was
facing the audience. When he turned back, Mascaras drop kicked him. Jack 
when flying straight back and landed with a sickening splat on the concrete.
You could see the back of his head hit the concrete and snap back.

All I can say is that's the worst bump I've ever seen a wrestler take. I'm
amazed this guy hasn't crippled himself yet. He could have fractured his
skull on that bump...

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From: MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU (maurice)
Subject: Re: Wrestling TidBits   -   10/01
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 17:48:36 EDT

In article <BvH3ts.3tC@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca>
hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze) writes:
 
> - Rumours have Hulk Hogan returning to the WWF very soon.  [...]
>   Rumours have already begun of a Hulk Hogan vs. Ric Flair
>   WrestleMania main event in April, 1993.
 
No surprise here, of course.  But I wonder what this means for
Bob Backlund.
 
maurice
                                                 Maurice Forrester
                                                 mjforres@suvm.syr.edu