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From: wiegand@rtsg.mot.com (Robert Wiegand)
Subject: Re: os/2 2.0 configuration problem
Reply-To: motcid!wiegand@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: "world"
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:31:41 GMT

aydemirn@wl.aecl.ca writes:

>I have installed OS/2 2.0 successfully (or so I thought).  However, 
>in DOS window mode, I am constantly getting the error message:
>"Incorrect Dos version".   Has anyone encountered this problem and
>what am I doing wrong?

>Thanks in advance for any pointers.

What are you running when you get this error?
Its possible to make OS/2 report a different version number so it looks
like normal DOS. Look in the DOS settings.


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Disclamer: I didn't do it - I was somewhere else at the time.
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Why I love OS/2. (Kids, try this at home!)
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:39:07 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Sep11.164048.10925@nmt.edu> jreynold@nmt.edu (John Reynolds) writes:
>
>Yes, this is *cool*, and shows OS/2's "stuff", but I have a burning
>question. How did the WPS restart itself? I posted a question a while back
>about the same topic and got no response. Is there a special parameter or
>config.sys directive to add or what?

It's part of the "PMSHELL.EXE" program.  It is loaded twice in
CONFIG.SYS.  The first time, it's in the PROTSHELL= line.  In this
context, it loads PM, and initializes the session manager and lets you
run multiple sessions.

The second time is as in the RUNWORKPLACE= line.  The program
mentioned here will restart if it's terminated, I believe.  Normally,
PMSHELL.EXE is here again.  So, if PMSHELL quits (when WPS dies), it
gets restarted.  I believe if you place CMD.EXE on this line, and you
kill it (by typing "exit"), it'll restart as well.

If you run PMSHELL as an app, you can kill it and it won't restart.

>In addition, how/why did WPS crash?

WPS has some bugs.  Fortunately, they aren't fatal.  They should be
fixed with the CSD.  Coming soon to an ftp site near you.

-- 
   |)  David Charlap           "LECTURER, n.  One with his hand in your pocket,
  /|_  dic5340@hertz.njit.edu   his tongue in your ear, and his faith in your
 ((|,)                          patience."
  ~|~                              --- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
From: gershon@husc10.harvard.edu (Ethan Gershon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Some more suggestions for OS/2
Keywords: suggestions for OS/2
Date: 8 Sep 92 03:57:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc10.gershon.715924658

Three more suggestions for OS/2 to add to my list:

Two system applets:

- a "make bootable disk" applet

- a standard application installer / un-installer.  Perhaps the WPS could
keep a table of all apps for this purpose?  I imagine that the application
would come with some sort of information file to help the install program.

- It would be nice if character mode applications could find out the screen
dimensions in characters from the operating system. I am thinking of two
examples: the first is Emacs for X, which uses an entirely character mode
interface, but runs inside and X window. When you resize the window, Emacs
adjusts to the number of characters that fit in the space. The other
program is Qmodem, which uses whatever video mode and number of characters
across and down that you happen to have on the screen when you start it.
It would be nice if, say, character mode Lotus 1-2-3 for OS/2, when run in
full screen mode, gave you an option for number of characters across and
down to use (a list it would get from the operating system).  In a window,
the same character mode application would adjust the number of characters
based on the size of the window. (the obvious alternative for the same
application would be a scaled window, where the window had the same number
of characters regardless of size).

                                                    --Ethan Gershon
                                                    gershon@husc.harvard.edu
From: hob@soda.berkeley.edu (Bing Ho)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 is giving me the fits about Windows and DOS
Date: 13 Sep 1992 09:08:58 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

I have had a recent problem where I try to run a DOS or Windows
programs under OS/2.  It gives me out of memory errors (full-screen
or seamless), something about cannot start programs/possibly out of
memory.

I reinstalled OS/2, downloaded the lastest patches from hobbes.nmsu.edu,
the latest hpfs and kernel update.  It was running fine for a
few hours before the error reappeared.

Any guesses?  Perhaps a previously unknown bug about the kernel update?

I have a 386/40 8mb ram, silicon integrated systems chipset, and ami bios,
dated 7/91.

Thanks for any pointers.

Bing Ho
hob@soda.berkeley.edu     
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From: lkan@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Linus Kan)
Subject: COM.SYS & VCOM.SYS device install error:
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:30:29 GMT



Hi there everyone!  I'm new to OS2, and I also have a SYS
error msg during boot-up--the system says that there's
an error in my CONFIG.SYS file plus a device driver error
installation for COM.SYS and VCOM.SYS.

I tried running PCPLUS on OS2 but I can't connect--doesn't
even gives me the DOS Settings for COM_HOLD....?  

If this helps--I have an internal Practical Peripheral
PM14400FX V.32bis modem setup to COM2; it works well when
I run on true DOS (ie. non-emulated).n

Many thanks in advance!

:) Linus
A
  
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: This is annoying, please help....
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:32:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.165624.11025@nmt.edu> jreynold@nmt.edu (John Reynolds) writes:
>Fine. I don't really want to run it in a window, but the problem was that
>I couldn't kill the damn dos-app. The title window said 'suspended : periodic
>.exe' double-clicking on the upper-left box brought up the Yes, no, help
>dialog and choosing yes. did nothing. Fine. Ctr-ESC. Select the dos-app
>and hit DEL key. Same dialog, same response. It just sits there. Fine.
>Ctr-ESC, bring up pop-up menu for dos-app, and choose 'close.' Same dialog,
>same response. Shit. Ok. Shutdown system (because I was finished for the
>night anyway). "Shut down???" Choose yes, and I get the same dialog for the
>dos-app. I chose yes, and OS/2 just sits there. I *couldn't shut down OS/2
>because of this archain DOS app!!!!* So, I had to give the 3-fingered
>salute, and do the Alt-F1 trick on startup so the damn thing would hose
>me again!!! **This is really stupid.** I should have instantly been able to 
>close that damn app. Anyone have any comments/similar experiences/ or
>suggestions.

Sometimes it happens -- a process seemingly goes "zombie."  What often
cures the problem is running KillEm against the process.  Get ahold of
KillEm 2.1 and Procs 2.1, both available via anonymous ftp from
ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  They are very handy utilities to have around.

However, there's really no need to worry about it.  Just minimize the
app and leave it be.  Work as you always do, then, when you're ready,
Shutdown.  The next time you go into OS/2 just hold down left CTRL,
left ALT, and F1 while the desktop is coming up.  That will prevent
applications from automatically restarting -- see the FAQ List for
details on alternative methods.

A "zombie" hanging around isn't going to hurt anything -- just keep on
working and ignore it.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | The OS/2 FREQ. ASKED QUESTIONS LIST is avail. from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/faq.
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | Or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP").
of Chicago, 60637       | Family Values Means a Job
From: djackson@axion.bt.co.uk (Dave Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Getting Rid of MS-Windows after OS/2 install
Date: 8 Sep 92 08:10:55 GMT
Reply-To: djackson@axion.bt.co.uk (Dave Jackson)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


In article <1992Sep7.193843.3311@nlm.nih.gov>,
dabl2@nlm.nih.gov (Don A.B. Lindbergh) writes:
|> I didn't find this info specifically addressed in the OS/2
|> 'docs' or in our
|> faq.  I know Win OS/2 doesn't come with 3.0 applets like
|> notepad or write etc
|> and the 'auto migration' of those apps just makes program
|> entry which points
|> to the actual MS Windows directory and program.  Now I
|> want to get rid of
|> Windows and retain those applets for Win OS/2.  As an
|> example I tried just
|> copying notepad.exe to my Win OS/2 directory and pointed
|> the program entry
|> to it, but it wants something else, some other file or
|> something.  How is
|> all this accomplished?
|> 
|> *I'm simplifying a bit because I actually erased win 3.0
|> and install 3.1
|> (not letting it trash my win/os2) and am attempting to
|> just copy my 'old' 3.0
|> applets to Win OS/2, since it doesn't seem to like the 3.1
|> version(s) of those.


If you're just copying the files from the win3.0 disks that's
where you're 
going wrong - you need to use 'expand' on them (on one of the
win3.0 disks,
with DOS 5.0 and on one of the OS/2 disks (Number 9 if memory
serves me 
correctly). Then it'll all work. Don't forget the help
files.

Extra tip - you can copy the win3.1 winhelp.exe to your
win-os2 directory if
you have software such as Excel 4.0 which says it is
incompatible with the
win-os2 help system. This gives no problems with win-os2.



David J Jackson   Telephone +44 473 645805
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From: hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: New TSENG LABS drivers
Keywords: NEW TSENG LABS DRIVERS
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:51:51 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

Pardon my jumping in here, but if memory serves, these are not "new"
ET4000 drivers - they are OS/2 1.3 version drivers patched to work with
OS/2 2.0, and thus are not an improvement on the Orchid beta drivers
which *are* being made specifically for OS/2 2.0. Plus, they are only
16 colour-versions, so naturally they will be reasonably quick. 

It seems to me, and of course is pure speculation, that we won't see much
in the way of good drivers until the developers have had their hands on the
32-bit GRE and the DDK for a while longer. In other words, maybe as a 
Christmas present. 
 
Tom
From: ry01@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ROBERT YUNG)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Question about OS/2 and beta versions...
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:36:48 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I helped my friend install OS/2 on his computer and I have been playing around
with it for a few days. I do have some "problems" with it.
   I installed the "optional bitmaps" but the "click on desktop background &
   press ctrl-alt-shift-o" trick doesn't do anything. Also, I can't find a
   README file anywhere. Where is it?

I'm worried that my friend might have gotten a BETA version of OS/2 2.0. How
can I tell if it is BETA or GA? Does it say so on bootup? It does come on 21
disks...

THANKS! BTW, are there any updates to 2.0 I might be able to get from the IBM
FTP site now or soon??

-- 
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   \_(Robert) Bobby Yung_______RY01@Lehigh.Edu_____________________/
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From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Not pasting graphics from Clipboard?
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 19:19:53 GMT

Greeting.

I remember the good old day, when I could type my class note into Write
under MS Windows, and if I needed to replicate a sketch, I could do it in
Paintbrush and PASTE it into my Write document.  Now
that I have Os/2 and NOT Windows applets anymore (not at all),
I cannot do this with the EPM and PM Chart.  i ahve tried other
combinations with some Paint/Draw things I downloaded anf with E.EXE,
but tono avail.

IS there a work aroud this?  EPM is fine, but ASCII sketches SUCK.

Thanks LOTS LOTS to anybody who has an idea how to paste something, say,
from PM Chart into and EPM doc.

--
Dan Stephenson                                           das9674@usl.edu
" BERLIN WALL FALLS.  3 BORDER GUARDS LOSE JOBS.  CLINTON BLAMES BUSH! "
        -George Bush, '92 Republican nomination acceptance speech
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: WINOS2 resoloution
Date: 4 Sep 92 23:13:52 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Sep3.131443.4832@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
>In article <dkm2.715496899@Isis.MsState.Edu> dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee) writes:
>>I have installed the 800x600x256 drivers for Tseng 4000 in PM , but how
>>can you change the resoloution of winos2?  
>
>Install the Tseng-4000 Windows driver in WIN-OS2.  Here's how:
>
>1) Place the driver in ...\WINOS2\SYSTEM
>
>2) Edit your ...\WINOS2\system.ini file and make the following change:
>
>   On the line labeled "display.drv", change the "vga.drv" parameter
>   to the name of the driver you just placed in the ...\WINOS2\SYSTEM
>   directory. 
>
>3) Close any running WIN-OS2 sessions and restart them.  No need to
>   reboot, just restart all WIN-OS2 sessions.

Oh yes, be sure DOS sVGA support is active.  I believe this means
using the VSVGA.SYS driver (latest version, Tseng boards have problems
with earlier ones), and running SVGA ON from a full-screen DOS
session.

-- 
   |)  David Charlap           "TELEPHONE, n.  An Invention of the devil which
  /|_  dic5340@hertz.njit.edu   abrogates some of the advantages of making a
 ((|,)                          disagreeable person keep his distance."
  ~|~                              --- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
Organization: European Academic Research Network (EARN)
Date: Thursday, 10 Sep 1992 15:00:06 GMT
From: Turgut Kalfaoglu <TURGUT@FRMOP11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: sort fails on 400k file
 <1992Sep2.235241.11549@midway.uchicago.edu>
 <1992Sep3.184135.9608@advtech.uswest.com>
 <1992Sep3.163746.1@ducvax.auburn.edu>

There is a BIGSORT that I wrote that floats around somewhere, for MSDOS.
I think I'll compile it for OS/2 and post it around. It's just like
OS/2's sort, same parameters, except I added an ignore case thing,
if I remember right.  Regards, -turgut
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: CURE! for no desktop on bootup syndrome
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:46:32 GMT

Tom Williamson (tom@nds.com) wrote:
> 
> Just a note to say that I don't think this problem has anything to do with 
> having shadows in the startup folder.  One of the first things I did after 
> installing os/2 was to shadow the system clock and pulse in the startup 
> folder.  I have never had any of the symptoms mentioned above.  I have been
> running my system that way for at least 6 weeks.
> 

For interest's sake, IBM say it is not best to put programs in the startup
folder that you intend to run permanently (eg the clock). It suggests you
run it once and let it be restarted automatically when you restart the
system. This pearl of wisdom comes straight from the Red Books.

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
From: dandrews@bilver.uucp (Dave Andrews)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: New ATI coprocessed cards
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:28:30 GMT
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL

In article <18od2rINNkbk@agate.berkeley.edu> hob@soda.berkeley.edu (Bing Ho) writes:
>I recently saw an ad from ATI for the new Ultra Pro and Vantage Pro (or
>Plus).  They claimed these were the second generation ATI graphics
>co-processed cards.
>
>Anybody try them with OS/2?  The WINMARK specs that ATI claimed,
>25.5 million for the Ultra Pro!, are simply incredible.  I don't
>know if they remain 8514/a compatible though.

The new 33/66 Gateway 2000 machine is supposed to include a version
of this card that plugs into a VESA local bus.  I'm also curious
about OS/2 support.           

I'm not familiar with the WINMARK scale.  Could you post some
representative WINMARK numbers for other display adapters?
Thanks!

- David Andrews
  dandrews@bilver.oau.org
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From: jps@netcom.com (John Serafin)
Subject: Re: new Tseng4000 drivers blew up my system...
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 02:24:14 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

I put my display DLL's in a directory on my C: drive, which is a FAT
partition.   If I want to change the video DLL, I boot DOS and copy the
driver that I want to use to DISPLAY.DLL
Another possibility is to keep OS/2 1.x (where x is high enough to support
HPFS) on your disk.   This would be particularly useful if something other
than a video driver is causing problems (CONFIG.SYS, say).

mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:

>I tried the new tseng4000 patch on Hobbes, but ran into an interesting
>problem.  Following the advice of a helpful netter, I created another
>directory with the new display.dll and put that directory first int
>the libpath statement in my config.sys file.  POOF!  Apparently,
>the driver is not compatible with my Diamond Speedstar Plus HiColor
>board and my screen is transformed into static.  Since, my screen is
>completely illegible, it is impossible to delete the offending
>line and I'm forced to re-install OS/2.  I even tried using the
>installation disk and disk #1 (typing ESC as recommended by the
>FAQ) to get a system prompt, and it does work, BUT my hard drive
>is not recognized.  

>I've already done the re-install, but I sure would be grateful
>if someone could clue me into an easier solution for the next
>time.

>Cheers,

>Chris
-- 
John P. Serafin  |  Operating a bicycle is more like driving than riding.
jps@netcom.com   |  Operating an automobile is more like riding than driving.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: david@maxwell.ucsc.edu (David Darknell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Soundblaster drivers available
Date: 15 Sep 1992 23:47:56 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxwell.ucsc.edu

In <14199@chalmers.se> d9mikael@dtek.chalmers.se (Mikael Wahlgren) writes:

>A pre-release of the Soundblaster drivers for MMPM/2 is available at
>software.watson.ibm.com.  I can't find any support for the CD-ROM though.
>You MUST have MMPM/2 to have any use of these drivers at all.

>Mikael Wahlgren
*****
Where and how much is the MMPM/2 ?

David
From: gt1610c@prism.gatech.EDU (MCGAUGH,MICHAEL KENNETH)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Has anyone seen this install problem?
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:25:42 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Hey All.

I have been using OS/2 2.0 very successfully for over six months
now.  I recently convinced a friend to switch from DOS to OS/2,
but he wanted to make sure that it installed on his system
before he bought it.  So I let him try my copy.

He has a no-name 386sx with 6 meg, 120 IDE HD, and a Paradise
8 bit VGA card.  I am not sure on any other details.

When he tries to install, he makes it past the point where you
have to reboot and it becomes graphical.  He gets the mouse
pointer, then it changes to a clock.  Then it sits there with
the HD active for hours (he has actually let it sit for hours).

Can anyone help?  BTW, I have read the FAQ.

Ken.

-- 
M. Ken McGaugh
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: Creating a RAM drive from Config.SYS
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:44:10 GMT

Svendsen, Stein P.     7-93 (gribb/sps@gribb.hsr.no) wrote:
> Booted up, - 4Megs less free space than with 16M without any Vdisk. Now 
> that should suggest that a Vdisk is placed within the normal boundries of 
> memory that Os/2 itself is caught in. I picked out the 4 Megs, stuffed 
> them in a box, and put them away. OS/2 can't use them. (Not yet)   

If you install the GT16MB(2) patch then it will use the extra RAM as swap
space. My SWAPPER.DAT file has not grown over 1 meg since I went to 24meg.
It does give the impression that the system is stopping and doing nothing
for short periods every now and again but you must consider that it used to
thrash the disk during those times before the RAM upgrade.
> 
> Setting NOSWAP in config.sys is slightly better than useless, even with 
> 16Meg. It stops me at about 2 x DOS-box + 2 x winos2 (Don't ask me what I 
> use these sessions for... I don't). It seems like OS/2 just likes to know 
> it's there...
> 
>   BUT.... guess what happened when I set the swappath to the VDISK??
> 
> No warranty  - just try it. I didn't change that setting back, though.

Interesting thought. 

BTW from page 77 of RedBook 1:
.... If this second requirement is satisfied and the disk controller can
handle 32-bit addresses larger than 16MB, then all of memory is used by
OS/2 for programs and data. If it cannot, then the OS/2 page manager
allocates all of the memory above 16MB as a paging cache to be used before
paging to the disk. This substitution is a good use of the memory above
16MB, but not as good as using it directly.

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
Organization: European Academic Research Network (EARN)
Date: Thursday, 10 Sep 1992 15:20:50 GMT
From: Turgut Kalfaoglu <TURGUT@FRMOP11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Why I love OS/2. (Kids, try this at home!)

I had to send a pack of diskettes to a friend on the network, so
I had in one process reading and ZOO ing the diskettes, and
another one FTPing them| since ftp was slow, I had plenty of time
to play games on the machine too|  Try this under windows :)   -t
From: rick@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu (Richard Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: windows question
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:37:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: San Jose State University - Math/CS Dept.

medin@cod.nosc.mil (Ted Medin) writes:

> Got a new modem that came with a windows pgm. In testing the modem with
>the pgm the pgm mentioned a wordprocessor that comes with windows. Evidently
>ms windows comes with a couple of simple apps. All i seem to have with
>winos2 is the clock. Did i miss something?

Not Really :-) 

Windows comes with a small text editor (Notepad) and a very limited
word-processor (Write).  They are LCD programs - Least Common
Denominator.  You can count on most Windows installs having them, so
if you send out a Windows app you can provide notes based on one
of these being present.  Otherwise, they are nothing to squawk about.
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