HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: daniels@apollo.hp.com (Stewart Daniels)
Subject: Re: Messages To Perth
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Cooperative Object Computing Division -
	Chelmsford, MA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:27:29 GMT

In article <1218@seqp4.sequoia.com> jcooley@seqp4.sequoia.com (John Cooley) writes:

> I have doubts that the U.S. Mail would get something to Perth in
> say 3-4 days; once it's out of their hands and in Australia, I could
> easily see a tape letter sitting for weeks before it was delivered.

Actually, it is far more likely to be the case that it takes between
3-7 days to get to Australia, and then will be delivered in 2 days or
less once it is there.  In my experience, U.S. Mail is substantially
slower than Oz Post when your destination in Australia is in a metro
area.  I mentioned this to the guy at the local U.S. Post Office, and
he confirmed that the U.S. portion of the journey took a lot longer
than the Australian part.  I s'pose Australia Post has got it a lot
easier, there are only 6 major cities in the country so it is not too
difficult to get mail between them fairly quickly.

I think that U.S. mail offers an express mail service that should get
your mail through in 4 days or so.

Stew.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: brian@coombs.anu.edu.au (Brian)
Subject: Re: Golden Syrup??
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date: 12 Apr 92 03:32:45 GMT

rowlands@ra.ti.com (Jon Rowlands) writes:

>In article <1992Apr10.133159.1@ltnup.enet.dec.com>, quodling@ltnup.enet.dec.com
>writes:
>[ ... some things deleted ... ]
>|>						(Like Vegemite, it never goes
>|> off.)

>Absolutely. I had a tin which was passed down through three generations,
>finally meeting a sticky end in the decade of conspicuous consumption.

>Anyone know why this stuff is called Cocky's Joy? How do they get the lid
>off?

	Wrong "Cocky".  A "Cocky" in this context is a farmer (called such
because when it comes to politics they always squawk like a Cockatoo,
which is of course the other context).


--
Brian Ross__________________________________________________________________
	"If it is dangerous to suppose that government is always right, it
will sooner or later be awkward for public administration if most people
suppose that it is always wrong."______________________________J.K.Galbraith
From: 5606acharyak@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Life in Australia
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:06:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.00958CDE.CB95ACA0
Reply-To: 5606acharyak@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

Hi Netters,

I am posting this on behalf of my friend, Bobby who is in India and 
thinking about migrating to Ausralia.  He is an Electrical engineer
with several years of experience.  
He would like to know how it is to live in Australia.  How are the people
, what kind of job he can expect to get, what is an average salary of an
electrical engineer there, what is the cost ofyliving 



.. oops hit the wrong key..
and other things like that.  I would very much appriciate a mail reply
at 5606acharyak@vms.csd.mu.edu.

Thanks you all,

Kandarp Acharya.
From: STA39018786H@lust1.latrobe.edu.au (ECKY)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: What happened to The Oils?
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:57:18 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <4183@gos.ukc.ac.uk> sdb@ukc.ac.uk writes:

> Anybody have a clue what The Oils are up to at the moment?
> Any planned releases in the near future?

  Yeah, "Scream In Blue", a live album is due to be released in the next month
or so. I don't know if they plan to tour, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

> The group aren't too big over here.

  Mmmm, I can remeber the good old days when they weren't all that big over 
here. I used to go and see them at the local pub, get drunk and walk home 
with change from $20. At least they aren't as expensive as other big name 
bands when they tour now.
 
> P.S. E-street is worse than Neighbours.

  Which is worse than 'Home & Away', which is worse than 'A Country Practice'
which is worse than 'The Flying Doctors' which is worse than...... ;-).

  ECKY

 

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From: detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Australian TV on American Networks
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:43:52 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

There have been a couple of Australian television programs telecast
here in the New Jersey area during the last year.  I found them all
very well done, and like the fact they are videotaped, not filmed.  It
gives a more realistic apperance.

One show I really enjoyed was entitled "Neighbours".  The network did not
give it a chance to draw a following, and cancelled it after only a few
weeks.

Can anyone tell me how long this show ran (or is running), and where the
story line is now.  I taped one episode, and if I reviewed the credits
correctly, the episodes we saw were from the late 1980's.

Thanks very much for you input.


-- 
David De Trolio - (detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu)
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: raphael@research.canon.oz.au (Andrew Raphael)
Subject: Re: Night life/Music in Sydney
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
	<1992Apr15.155201.8834@fs7.ece.cmu.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 09:12:02 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.155201.8834@fs7.ece.cmu.edu>
sutton@dart.ece.cmu.edu (Peter Sutton) writes:

>In article <1992Apr14.140947.6349@bsu-ucs.uucp>, 00kbhutchiso@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>>....  Can anyone give me any
>>hints on the night life in Sydney (I am only 20).  And are there any good ...

Yes!  Your .sig indicates a liking for Fugazi and the Descendants, so I
think you'll find many bands here that you'll like.  The legal drinking
age is 18, so all the pubs are open to you, but you should carry your
passport as proof of age or they will not let you in.

There are two free newspapers/gig guides: Drum Media (Tue) and On The
Street (Wed). They cover all the music and stuff thats on during a
week.

>BTW, does anyone know if NSW has got itself any casinos yet?

Howls of derisive laughter, Bruce.  The latest is that there might be
one someday.
-- 
Andrew Raphael <raphael@research.canon.oz.au>
    Oh! I see, it's your birthday.
    It's your big day, and I forgot.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: brian@coombs.anu.edu.au (Brian)
Subject: Re: Cocky stories (was Golden Syrup)
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:56:03 GMT

bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:

>        Cockatoos normally come in either white with a yellow crest
>and yellow wing and tail undersides, or black with the crest and wing
>and tail undersides varying from a bright orange colour through to a
>vivid red. The black cockies are not common.

	Not quite.  In Northern Australia the black Cockies are rather
common.  In addition Cockies come with in many different shades of grey,
black and white with assorted different coloured crests.  Major Mitchell's
have a bright red crest with a light wash of pinkish red (as Sulphur
Crested yellow) under the wings.

	Perhaps the most spectacular one I know of is the Cane Cockatoo
(its also the largest of the family).  It has a much larger beak than all
the others and can grow to over a 18 inches in size.

	The prettiest one though I think must be the south-eastern Red
Cockatoo (its rather rare and now only really occures in South Australia).
Its deep black with bright red under wing feathers and crest.  When its
flying you get these deep, bright red flashes of colour as it flies along.


>        I've gone on for long enough. The story of the bald cocky can
>wait, unless enough people want to hear it.

	Do tell.  Was it one of the ones suffering from the skin complaint
which makes them pull all their feathers out?



--
Brian Ross__________________________________________________________________
	"If it is dangerous to suppose that government is always right, it
will sooner or later be awkward for public administration if most people
suppose that it is always wrong."______________________________J.K.Galbraith
From: farrell@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au (John Farrell)
Subject: Hutt River Province
Organization: James Cook University
Date:  9 Apr 92 05:37:54 GMT

In <1992Apr8.130053.88533@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au> bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
>The Prince is from Eastern Europe (I can't
>remember his name or exactly which country he's from), and fled Europe to
>escape either the nazi's or the Russian takeover of Eastern Europe.

  You didn't mention that the Prince is a farmer called Len who doesn't like
paying taxes. As it is, your article brings to mind scenes of Neuschwannstein.


Friendless
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: srklump@descartes.waterloo.edu (elm)
Subject: Australian Grad Schools?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 14:12:23 GMT

Hello,

I'd like to do a Master's or PhD in Australia.  Would someone kindly
post or send me the names/addresses of some Australian schools that have
either program in Mathematics?

Much obliged,

Stephen.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: tnakla@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Looking for address in adelaide
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:16:24 GMT

looking for correct address for university of adelaide.I have the 
following; ....@f.itd.adelaide.edu.au .Is this correct?If not, please 
send appropriate info. and address to tnakla@kean.ucs.mun.ca.thanks in 
advance.

Tony Nakla.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: cbs@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Chris Syed)
Subject: looking for aussie systems librarians
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:33:11 GMT


      I am off to Oz in about a month, and am trying to 
      find email addresses for Aussie systems librarians, especially:
      
      -- people who might know about AARN developements,
         especially plans for collaboration among libraries
      
      -- people who are systems librarians at Unilinc (formerly CLANN)
         sites.

      -- people who can tell me about ILANET and how to get there from here,
         (if meaningful & possible).

      Email please. Thanks.

-- 
---
       "I mean, once you get to know a guy, you can't hate him
            just because he's a werewolf."  -- Tanya Huff.
             cbs@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Chris Brown-Syed)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: ccd@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Carol C Denehy)
Subject: Re: Cocky stories (was Golden Syrup)
Organization: None, and I like it like that
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 05:48:11 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.171749.17839@aeras.uucp> jasonh@aeras.UUCP (Jason Harris) writes:
>In article <1992Apr12.110912.88558@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au> bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
>
>Want to hear a really surreal cocky story? I was in a pet store in Fremont,
>California the other weekend and I was checking out the merchandise. In a cage
>was a fairly poor example of a Sulphur Crested Cockatoo. The price? $1000 US.
>I understand that even the lowly Pink and Grey Galahs and 28 parrots (I think
>that is a WA name only) go for outrageous sums.
>
Indeed. I have a friend in the Washington DC area who has a sulpher-
crested as a pet. She paid $1200 for it. I delighted in telling her
they fly over (thank goodness) my back yard daily.

Carol Deney
.sigless

Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: miw@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (Mark I. Williams)
Subject: Re: Golden Syrup??
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 02:58:22 GMT

brian@coombs.anu.edu.au (Brian) writes:

>	Wrong "Cocky".  A "Cocky" in this context is a farmer (called such
>because when it comes to politics they always squawk like a Cockatoo,
>which is of course the other context).

Naaaah. Politics has nothing to do with it. A cocky is a small farmer,
because they scratched in the dirt. The term, strictly speaking refers
only to farmers and not graziers, although you often hear of "cow
cockies" and "sheep cockies". The name was in use at least around the start 
of this century, and only refers to people who are battling. I have also
heard that the word "cocky" is used because these people never stop
whinging.

The opposite of Cocky is "silvertail" which referred to rich graziers 
who regarded themselves as a kind of gentry, although I have heard it used 
in relation to rich farmers, now that there are some.

cheers,


--
Mark Williams         The University of Queensland       miw@cc.uq.oz.au
+61 7 36 54012   (w)  Prentice Centre
+61 7 36 54477  (fax) Qld 4072  Australia
Si fractus illabatur orbis impavidium ferient ruinae.  -- Horace
From: jasonh@aeras.uucp (Jason Harris)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Messages To Perth
Keywords: Perth, commincations, low budget
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:35:02 GMT
Reply-To: jasonh@aeras.UUCP (Jason Harris)
Organization: Arix Corporation, San Jose, CA.

In article <1218@seqp4.sequoia.com> jcooley@seqp4.sequoia.com (John Cooley) writes:

>What's a quick, cheap way to get information from Boston, USA
>to Perth, Australia ?

The quickest and cheapest way is to send email but I suspect that your 
girlfriend's grandmother is not on the net, so you can probably forget
girlfriend@granny.com.

>Phoning is very expensive and clumsy; can't get timing always right.

What's so tricky about adding 18 hours to the number on the clock? (Give or
take an hour, depending on who is or isn't in daylight savings.)

>I have doubts that the U.S. Mail would get something to Perth in
>say 3-4 days; once it's out of their hands and in Australia, I could
>easily see a tape letter sitting for weeks before it was delivered.

In my experience Australia Post is more efficient than US Mail. I have had
cassettes that were sent to me sit in undelivered piles for months, 
despite the fact that they were clearly addressed. Be that as it may an
aerogramme is probably the cheapest and quickest form of communication. You 
have to write small though. Perth->USA typically takes around 4 days and
USA->Perth typically takes around 7 days.

>I have images of thousands of programmers simultaneously whining about
>net bandwidth - please direct e-mail suggestions to me, OK?

Oh, I dunno. I think its of general interest. Besides that I couldn't be 
buggered trying to figure out how to route mail to you.

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Jason Harris (22,Leo,ElectronicE)
 an ex-resident of Perth, Western Australia, lately of Milpitas, California

E-MAIL: apple.com!aeras!jasonh 
SNAIL-MAIL: Arix Corporation, 871 Fox Lane, San Jose CA, 95131 USA
VOICE-MAIL: (USA) 408-922-1839

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: sfg2483@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Shachar Frank )
Subject: Address for complaints on airlines?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:06:22 GMT

Does anyone know if there is an Australian Government address or the like for
writing a complaint on an airline (an Australian one, of course)?
I had a problem with it and the airline itself is shaking its hands off of
it, so I was wondering if there is "a higher authority" I could use...

Thanks!

Shachar
sfg2483@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Constitutional amendments (was: question on aborigines)
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:05:00 GMT
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <farrell.702547386@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au>,
	 farrell@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au (John Farrell) writes...
>In <1992Apr6.044649.27892@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au>
>	 Christopher.Vance@adfa.oz.au writes:
>>	Australian Antarctic Territory (international status disputed,
>>		I guess these people also vote at home, or maybe at
>>		Antarctic Division HQ in Hobart)
	Unless it's changed since 1980, Expeditioners can't vote.  The
Electoral people insist that you vote on forms supplied by them, and return
them within a certain time.  We still had to pay taxes thouugh :-(.
> 
>  I think the deal is that nobody really owns any of the Antarctic, but some
>places claim it. More is claimed than is really there, so the claims are quite
>tenuous. Argentina, for example, claims more than anyone else allows them.
>A few places (Aus, NZ, USSR?, France, USA etc) have bits in which they have
>priority for scientific research I think? but the more civilised amongst those
>places do not claim actual ownership, just some lesser right.
	Under the Antarctic Treaty, all claims of territory are held in
abeyance.  Some countries (e.g. the U.S.) refuse to recognise any claims to
sub-Antarctic (below 60 S) islands or parts of the continent.  I have an atlas
from the U.S. that has Macquarie (sp? can't remember if there's a c or not)
Island marked "claimed by Australia", tho' in fact it's not sub-Antarctic and
is actually a part of Tasmania.

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
From: sutton@dart.ece.cmu.edu (Peter Sutton)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Night life/Music in Sydney
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:52:01 GMT
Reply-To: sutton@dart.ece.cmu.edu (Peter Sutton)
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon
Originator: sutton@dart.ece.cmu.edu


In article <1992Apr14.140947.6349@bsu-ucs.uucp>, 00kbhutchiso@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>....  Can anyone give me any
>hints on the night life in Sydney (I am only 20).  And are there any good ...

Don't know about the night life, but if you're 18 or older then you can
do anything -  drink / gamble etc.

BTW, does anyone know if NSW has got itself any casinos yet?

Peter

-- 
Peter Sutton                                           sutton@dart.ece.cmu.edu
Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University                          
Pittsburgh  PA  15217  USA           (Too many miles from Brisbane, Australia)
From: brennan@coco.cchs.su.oz.au (Luke Brennan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Messages To Perth
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:28:11 GMT
Organization: Cumberland College of Health Sciences

In article <DANIELS.92Apr9172729@emu.apollo.hp.com>, daniels@apollo.hp.com (Stewart Daniels) writes:
> In article <1218@seqp4.sequoia.com> jcooley@seqp4.sequoia.com (John Cooley) writes:
> 
>> I have doubts that the U.S. Mail would get something to Perth in
>> say 3-4 days; once it's out of their hands and in Australia, I could
>> easily see a tape letter sitting for weeks before it was delivered.
> 
> Actually, it is far more likely to be the case that it takes between
> 3-7 days to get to Australia, and then will be delivered in 2 days or
> less once it is there.  In my experience, U.S. Mail is substantially
  [...]
> I think that U.S. mail offers an express mail service that should get
> your mail through in 4 days or so.

	That's not been my experience...
	Whenever I correspond with my US friends, it *always* takes a
	minimum of 1 week (usually 2) unless you cough up for express mail.
	(either way)

	If it's urgent, I use Fed-Ex...
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From: andrewt@cluster.cs.su.oz.au (Andrew Taylor)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Cocky stories (was Golden Syrup)
Date: 14 Apr 92 07:58:44 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Science, Uni of Sydney, Australia

In article <brian.703130163@coombs>, brian@coombs.anu.edu.au (Brian) writes:
> 	Not quite.  In Northern Australia the black Cockies are rather
> common.  In addition Cockies come with in many different shades of grey,
> black and white with assorted different coloured crests.  ....
> 
There are 12 species of cockatoo in Australia and some more on the
islands north of here.

> Perhaps the most spectacular one I know of is the Cane Cockatoo ...

Thats the Palm Cockatoo found in Australia only on Cape York.

> The prettiest one though I think must be the south-eastern Red
> Cockatoo (its rather rare and now only really occures in South Australia)....
> Its deep black with bright red under wing feathers and crest.  When its
> flying you get these deep, bright red flashes of colour as it flies along.

No Australian cockatoo (or parrot) fits your description. Were you returning
from the pub when you saw this bird?

Andrew Taylor
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: miw@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (Mark I. Williams)
Subject: Re: Australia's REAL Royal Family
Keywords: Leonard and Shirley
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:15:53 GMT

shirley@swanee.ee.uwa.oz.au (Glenn Shirley) writes:

>>[Prince Leonard] Originally decided to secede from the rest of the country for the purposes 
>>of avoiding taxation. The taxation department doesn't entirely agree with
>>Prince Leonard's self imposed independent status.

>>When we had the last CHOGM (Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting OR
>>Coons Holiday On Government Money) Prince Leonard was reportedly
>>distressed that he wasn't invited.

>I bet he still pays his taxes to the Australian government too.

Yep. He does. Of course, in the Hutt River Province, it goes on the
books as foreign aid. The secession is legal, because Hutt River
province actually declared war on Australia, and then wrote to the Queen
asking for recognition, which she was forced to give.

On the other hand, the government has made it clear that non-payment of
taxes would result in the army being sent in. Also, Hutt river stamps
are not recognised outside the province. Relations are actually quite
good, sincethe whole thing earns a tourist dollar.

Don't try this at home, kiddies!

cheers,


--
Mark Williams         The University of Queensland       miw@cc.uq.oz.au
+61 7 36 54012   (w)  Prentice Centre
+61 7 36 54477  (fax) Qld 4072  Australia
Si fractus illabatur orbis impavidium ferient ruinae.  -- Horace
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: raphael@research.canon.oz.au (Andrew Raphael)
Subject: Re: Golden Syrup??
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 01:00:19 GMT

In article <brian.703049565@coombs>
brian@coombs.anu.edu.au (Brian) writes:
>rowlands@ra.ti.com (Jon Rowlands) writes:

>>Anyone know why this stuff is called Cocky's Joy? 
>	A "Cocky" in this context is a farmer 

"Cocky's Joy" because golden syrup is cheaper than jam, and cockys are
notoriously penny-pinching.

My dad Peter always preferred Tate & Lyle's golden syrup to the CSR
product.  Since he joined CSR Sugar Division from high school and left
only when it became clear he wasn't going to become CSR's general
manager, he should know a good syrup when he tastes one.  :-)
-- 
Andrew Raphael <raphael@research.canon.oz.au>
    Oh! I see, it's your birthday.
    It's your big day, and I forgot.