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From: Rowan.Berry@f369.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Rowan Berry)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: Excellent
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 18:29:36 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/369 - City Limits BBS, Boronia Vic

AV>* Quoting  ...Rowan Berry of 3:633/377
AV>* Orig. To ...All
AV>* Posted   ...Wed, Jul 15 92 at 16:37

 RB> Yo, every funky dude out there...

AV>Rowan - this is the Performing Arts Education conference, and, as
AV>such, all messages posted here must, in some way, relate to
AV>education. Your post does not, and, as it stand, is more
AV>properly placed in the chat conferences.  Please confine future
AV>posts to the topic of the conference.

AV>Thank you.

AV>Andy VanDuyne
AV>K12 Performing Arts Ed. Moderator
AV>1:2608/75


Sorry about that, I must have been new to the board at the time . . . Bye
                                -----
                                ROWAN
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From: Ian.Bishop@f371.n640.z3.fidonet.org (Ian Bishop)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: Address etc.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 23:59:02 PST
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Just Curious here.  Did my mailing address ever arrive at your end???
I'm looking forward to getting hold of the information from U of A that
you mentioned.

Just in case, here it is again.

Ian R. Bishop
14 Pegasus Street
INALA  QLD  4077
AUSTRALIA

Best Regards, Ian

 * SLMR 2.1 * I'm a Looney Tune Muso- What's YOUR Disability???


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From: Amanda.Mosen@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Amanda Mosen)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: Re: BELL CHOIRS
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 92 07:19:10 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

Hi John,

Well I've got the measurements for the tubular bells.

I used aluminium tubing, 22mm (9/10") in diameter (outside to outside)
My bottom note is middle C, which is 500mm (19 3/5") long.
Reduce the length by about 8-9mm (3/10") per semitone.
The next C up is 350mm long (about 14").

I can't remember quite what I told you before, so I'll give you all of
the instructions again!

*       Cut the tubing with a skill-saw slightly longer than you
require.

*       Place the tube across a couple of pieces of wood with foam
rubber on the top of them.   Hit with a soft rubber mallet, and assess
the pitch using an electronic tuner.

*       If the bell is too flat, use a metal file to sharpen it by
filing down the end of the tube.

*       Keep checking the pitch - sometimes it doesn't take much filing
at all to bring it up to pitch.

*       If the bell becomes too sharp, you will need to use it for the
next note up, and make a new one for the note you were working on.

*       Make some sort of a wooden cradle which will hold the end of one
bell, and stop it from moving when being drilled.   You will need a
drill that is permenantly mounted, and you pull down the handle when
you want to drill a hole (I'm sure you know what I'm talking about).

*       Use a 3mm  drill bit to drill through the bell about 25mm (1")
from the top of each bell. (It needs to go in one side, and out the
other.)

*       Thread a piece of twine (I used plastic coated, as it doesn't
get cut by the edges of the holes) through both holes.   Make a small
loop, and tie both ends together.

*       Mark the bell in some way with its note (I used letteraset).


I made a wooden frame with slits in it for the bells to hang from, so that
all the  bells could be played by one person, or they could be taken
off, and played individually.   The aluminium can also be polished using
brass polish, which gets rid of the dull look.   Each player will also
need a soft rubber beater to play his/her bell with.


All the very best!   If I've missed out any vital details, please let me
know.   I'm sure the project will go well.

Amanda.
played by one person,
___
 X OLX 2.2 X Musicians duet better!


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From: Ian.Bishop@f371.n640.z3.fidonet.org (Ian Bishop)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: Penpal
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 23:59:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/371 - ESE ESCAPE BBS, Brisbane Qld Australia

Just Reading some old mail - saw this and wondered if I'd clarified it
yet.   Anyway........

BM>>I've heard that you folks read treble clef for tromobone except for
the BM>>bass trombone. Is that so? Must make life difficult. Up here all
the BM>>bones read bass clef as a normal thing.

Brass Band - YES!!   Classical - RARELY.

I actually read the following clefs/transpositions

Bass Clef
Tenor Clef
Alto Clef
Soprano Clef
Treble Clef (Concert Pitch, Bb Transposing, French "F" horn)

It pays to be versatile   :-)

Most of these clefs etc. only come up rarely.  They are useful though,
for stealing music from other instruments (Haydn Horn Concerto etc.)

Regards, Ian

 * SLMR 2.1 * I'm a Looney Tune Muso - What's YOUR Disability???


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From: Ian.Bishop@f203.n640.z3.fidonet.org (Ian Bishop)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: Trombones are better
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 14:02:56 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/203 - Redcliffe Library, Redcliffe Qld Australia

 BM> Strange, Ian. Here, when one musician is subbing for another, we say
 BM> "sitting in" for ... I would have never thought of standing in. That'd
 BM> get rather tiring! (G)
 BM> Barbara

Fair point.  I just sat in form a major Wind Ensemble performance.  What would have been the Sydney Wind Orchestra was disrupted somewhat and I filled that Bass trombone chair in what became the Australian East-Coast Wind Orchestra.

Some of the numbers we performed included "Fours Scottish Dances" by Malcolm Arnold and "Divertmento for Band" by Persichetti.  Top stuff!!!

Best Regards,

Ian


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From: Ian.Bishop@f371.n640.z3.fidonet.org (Ian Bishop)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: Frank Battisti
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 23:59:01 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/371 - ESE ESCAPE BBS, Brisbane Qld Australia

HM>>orchestra, then to Tasmania with the Melbourne Youth Symphonic Band.

I've remembered the connection to Russell Hammond - He Used to conduct
the MYSB and went on their tour of America/England.

Russell is truly at the forefront of Australian Conducting.  He recently
conducted the Australian East-Coast Wind Orchestra at the  ANBOC
conference in Queensland where we premiered many new works for Wind
Ensemble (School Level) as well as some high-level standards.

Best Regards, Ian

 * SLMR 2.1 * I'm a Looney Tune Muso - What's YOUR Disability???


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From: Ian.Bishop@f371.n640.z3.fidonet.org (Ian Bishop)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: Anyone wanting to chat...
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 23:50:01 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/371 - ESE ESCAPE BBS, Brisbane Qld Australia

CL>>Hello all,

Hi there - Greetings from OZ

CL>>    I am involved in our Concert Band at school (I play the bass clarinet a
CL>>Eb contrabass clarinet) and I sing in our Swing Choir (mostly Bass, sometim
CL>>Tenor).  I also enjoy many types of music, from modern rock (REM, Genesis,
CL>>Enigma) to jazz (Harry Connick Jr., the Nylons) and classical (Bach, Handel
CL>>Vivaldi--the BEST!).

Busy guy.  What works are you perfroming in the concert band???  Which
ones excite you the most when playing them????

Best Regards, Ian

 * SLMR 2.1 * I'm a Looney Tune Muso - What's YOUR Disability???


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From: Hamish.Moffatt@f552.n635.z3.fidonet.org (Hamish Moffatt)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: Trombones are better
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 16:55:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:635/552 - Cloud Nine, Vermont South Vic

Hello Ian!

Wednesday July 15 1992 19:17, Ian Bishop wrote to Hamish Moffatt:

 HM>>> <grin> How could anyone let an instrument that good go neglected? Sigh.
 IB> Yeah, pretty bad - can't understand it!!!

did you do them a favour and take it home? :-)


Regards,
Hamish


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From: Hamish.Moffatt@f552.n635.z3.fidonet.org (Hamish Moffatt)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: Penpal
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 16:55:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:635/552 - Cloud Nine, Vermont South Vic

Hello Ian!

Wednesday July 15 1992 19:17, Ian Bishop wrote to Hamish Moffatt:

 IB> I'd like to have Bachs, but only have Conns - an 88H and a 112H.  If I
 IB> get a chance to study postgraduate music in the U.S. I'll be saving to
 IB> have Axial-flow rotories installed!!!

err, what are these axial thingies?

Regards,
Hamish


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From: Andy.Vanduyne@p1.f75.n2608.z1.fidonet.org (Andy Vanduyne)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: Excellent
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 92 09:15:01 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2608/75.1 - Norkids BBS, Norwood NY

* Quoting  ...Rowan Berry of 3:633/377
* Orig. To ...All
* Posted   ...Wed, Jul 15 92 at 16:37

 RB> Yo, every funky dude out there...

Rowan - this is the Performing Arts Education conference, and, as such, all 
messages posted here must, in some way, relate to education.  Your post does 
not, and, as it stand, is more properly placed in the chat conferences.  
Please confine future posts to the topic of the conference.

Thank you.

Andy VanDuyne
K12 Performing Arts Ed. Moderator
1:2608/75



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From: Andy.Vanduyne@f1.n22252.z1.fidonet.org (Andy Vanduyne)
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Subject: The Rules...
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 92 09:17:12 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:22252/1

===============================================================
= Welcome to the K12Net Performing Arts Education conference! =
===============================================================

This area is intended for the discussion of all facets of Performing Arts Education.  Student and teacher experience,
questions, and wisdom in the areas of Music, Dance, or Theater are welcome topics.

K12Net offers chat areas for all age levels.  Please do not use _this_ area for general chat... make sure that your messages relate
in some way to Performing Arts Education.

Thanks, and have fun!

Andy Vanduyne
K12 Performing Arts Ed. Moderator
1:2608/75


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From: Colleen.Rinkel@f80.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Colleen Rinkel)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.life-skills
Subject: RE: Life Skills
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 00:00:33 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/80 - Auburn Ed-Net, Auburn WA

Jo

I was wondering about this sub too.  This title seems rather all encompassing,
but an interesting prospect.  Are you the one who wrote about artwork also?
 I was checking out other listings.  

Maybe this category is a way to relate to one another about life, in general.
 Life skills means different things at different age levels.  It  constantly
amazes me how many more "life skills" I need to learn.  (One of which is how
to fully utilize this system.)

Anyhow, I guess this category is up for speculation and communication, eh?

Hope to hear from readers out there for their opinions...
Colleen Rinkel


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From: Jack.Crawford@f620.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Crawford)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.life-skills
Subject: Life Skills
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 00:28:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/620 - W-FL Teacher Resour, Stanley NY

JR>    I'm new here and was wondering just what exactly this sub is
about. Is it JR>literally Life Skills...ie: how to write a check and
keep the checkbook JR>balanced...or does it involve more?

Actually, when Gordon Benedict and I first set this echo up over two
years ago when K12net was born, we envisioned this as a place for
the discussion of a wide variety of "life skills" curricula. These
could include home finance and management, career skills, child
dvelopment & parenting, home safety instruction, all forms of home
economics, etc., etc.

However, it gets a little strange because the education departments
of each state/province/territory often vary widely in their
defintions of what constitutes "Life Skills" as a curriculum area.
Consequently, the topic of this echo has always been a bit nebulous
and confusing. It has never had a professional educator as a
moderator.

What this echo really needs is a good moderator with sufficiently
flexible educational scope to be able to focus this echo to meet the
varied needs of students and teachers of "Life Skills" around the
world. That person should also be willing to learn the "art" of
"animating" the echo and assume responsibility for keeping it on a
decidedly K-12 curricular track.

Volunteers?????

=jack=
K12net founder & Echo Moderator Coordinator


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From: Peter.Cei@f333.n280.z1.fidonet.org (Peter Cei)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.life-skills
Subject: Money
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 10:46:11 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:280/333 - Sound Advice BBS, Gladstone MO

************************************************************************
Anybody trying to round up the $ for college?
If so let's talk.
 * DeLuxe* 1.21 #934sa * *** KNOWLEDGE IS POWER ***


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From: Bradley.Kelly@f628.n712.z3.fidonet.org (Bradley Kelly)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.life-skills
Subject: RE: Hello - testing the link
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 23:27:02 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:712/628 - Education Database, Sydney University

G'day!

* In a message originally to Stephen Maloy, Larry Hawkins said:

 > Hello from Spokane Washington! Ever heard of us up here?

Evry heard of Sydney, Australia?? :-)

brad j kelly  
 

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From: Larry.Hawkins@f6.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Larry Hawkins)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.life-skills
Subject: RE: Hello - testing the link
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:10:49 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/6 - Macs BBS, Spokane WA

Brad J Kelly

    How is it down under, why do thay always say that anyway?
 My daughter was the one who is in school and talking to Stephen
using my computer, she now has graduated by school and went to London
to work. She have no computer yet to message with, but I'll let her
know you replyed.
                        Larry  & Kim 


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From: Tony.Suba@p0.f120.n231.z1.fidonet.org (Tony Suba)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tech
Subject: New Ideas
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 23:12:02 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:231/120.0 - Someplace BBS, Indianapolis IN

If you are involved in some interesting class activities I would like to 
communicate with you.----tony suba Indlps,Indiana.....



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From: Tony.Suba@p0.f120.n231.z1.fidonet.org (Tony Suba)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tech
Subject: Tech Prep Upload
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 20:17:01 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:231/120.0 - Someplace BBS, Indianapolis IN

Tim grading students is always a problem because we as teacher are 
taught to rely on paper and pencil answers. How do they grade 
problem-solvers or developers in industry?  T he answer is the 
product they produce--that then means how do other preceive the 
product. A solution would be peer evaluation, log book of 
activitiesduring the process,product testing results, group 
activities results or products and or working models.
 use group dymanics when developing group working to insure 
individual  involvement in the finished product.
will chat again tony suba

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From: Soozi.Miller@f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Soozi Miller)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tech
Subject: Help, I need a course!
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 20:48:20 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT

I am searching for a course "Individual Intelligence Testing" which covers how to administer the WISC-R, WAIS, and WIPSI...among other individual evaluation tools.  The course is required for school psychology endorsement in Montana.  I live in N.Central Montana, near the Canadian border, and the college nearby does not offer the courses for this endoresement.  A situation has developed where taking this ASAP would allow me to fill a vacant position at my present place of employment.  I ha
have 10 years of special ed teaching experience, a 4.0 gpa for my Master's.  I need the course correspondence...or some such arrangement. If you can help, or know o
of a place that can please leave a message.

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From: Neil.Denowitz@f302.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Neil Denowitz)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tech
Subject: Tech Prep
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 23:28:48 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/302 - SpaceMet South 1, Holyoke MA

Hi Tony,
 
I had made contact with you prior to my vacation about a month ago and would again like to discuss the Tech Prep program with you and anybody else who might have some great ideas or information.  The tech prep program I will be working in is a meld of high school, college and industry.  Students will take classes during their Jr. and Sr. years in high school and receive both high school and college credit.  These classes are in math, science, and technology ed..  Upon graduation, students will have 14 coll
ege credits in addition to their high school diploma.  The program will also allow for a few internships by sponsoring industry.  Not a bad deal!
 
I will be teaching Manufacturing and am interested in any curriculum guides, sylabi, etc. that may be out there (floating in space).  
 
Also, I should mention that students coming into this program must meet criteria and apply (yes, apply) for it.  This is certainly a new concept to anybody who has taught tech ed, industrial ed, industrial arts, shop, or manual arts!!!!
 
Looking forward to your ideas, thoughts and responses,
 
Neil


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From: Tim.Weaver@f628.n712.z3.fidonet.org (Tim Weaver)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tech
Subject: Mail
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 12:51:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:712/628 - Education Database, Sydney University

Received the material you sent, thankyou very much. I am doing a 
seminar on Monday, I will be using the material as an example. Once 
again thankyou. Hope to hear from you soon....  Tim.

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From: Rob.Ripley@p3.f155.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Rob Ripley)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tech
Subject: Tech Prep
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 92 10:24:16 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/155.3 - SECAP BBS, Clayton Vic

Thanks for the message.  I'll Echomail when it arrives.
Yours in Woodturning ... and communicating ... Rob.


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From: Tony.Suba@p0.f120.n231.z1.fidonet.org (Tony Suba)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tech
Subject: Tech Prep
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 23:05:01 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:231/120.0 - Someplace BBS, Indianapolis IN

RR> Thanks for the message.  I'll Echomail when it arrives.
RR> Yours in Woodturning ... and communicating ... Rob.

RR> --- Ezycom
RR>  * Origin: Syndal Secondary College, Melbourne, Australia
RR> (3:633/155.3)
Your materials left this morning 7/23/92 via airmail- any questions 
please drop a line here--- be good tony suba

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From: Tim.Weaver@f628.n712.z3.fidonet.org (Tim Weaver)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tech
Subject: Tech Prep Upload
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 19:17:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:712/628 - Education Database, Sydney University

Within teaching a technology and design subject you can find that 
students take various approaches to solving problems or brief's. I 
guess to assess if the students solution is the most effective is 
quite difficult. It is hard being a teacher and having the ability 
to judge students work, especially in the new design and technology 
syllabus. For all designs may achieve the given brief well, but how 
do you decide which is going to gain the higher mark. I guess in the 
new syllabus I find it hard to measure a students outcome when the 
objectives state that some designs may have superior aspects. To be 
able to do this I guess you would need alot of experience. Thanks 
for keeping in contact, I look forward to your response. Let me know 
how it is all going with the technology aspect at your end. Until 
then Tim.

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From: Peter.Cei@f333.n280.z1.fidonet.org (Peter Cei)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tech
Subject: Scholarships/Grants
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 10:43:11 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:280/333 - Sound Advice BBS, Gladstone MO

Any one out there working in the scholarship or grant area?
If you are let's talk.
 * DeLuxe* 1.21 #934sa * *** KNOWLEDGE IS POWER ***


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From: Rob.Ripley@f377.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Rob Ripley)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tech
Subject: Tech Prep
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 22:24:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/377 - Comet, Ringwood Vic

Your materials arrived today 7/30/92, many thanks!  A curriculum based on performance where expected competencies are identified is what our curriculum should be.  I taught in this style training industry trainers for a few years and will use your material as an example to teachers and educationalists in Victoria.
One question, are the competencies rated?  How can the students get letter grade scores?
Yours in Woodturning ... and communicating ... Rob.

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From: Tony.Suba@p0.f120.n231.z1.fidonet.org (Tony Suba)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tech
Subject: Tech Prep Upload
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 21:47:01 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:231/120.0 - Someplace BBS, Indianapolis IN

Tim an experiment you can expect and predict the outcome. 
However,group activitiescan have a wanted result but not a predicted 
outcome. Think in terms of outcomes if it is limited to one idea then 
you get variations of that idea.
True group activity can produce more than one answer and still solve 
a major design problem.But experiments have a result that can be 
meaasure to within 10% of a given value. please contact me if you 
wish further information tony suba

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From: Harold.Bennett@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Harold Bennett)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tech
Subject: Diagram
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 19:49:24 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

Hi, I've a couple of struggling students on my board perservering with
300 baud modems. If someone can find a schematic diagram for a Integrated
Technology's Async/Sync Multiplexer piggyback card 2004 being their board
or option name then they will be able to get a 2400 modem up and running.
This will enable them to get onto some of the larger boards, where there
is a greater range of information and services.
 
Any diagram for any Async/Sync converter will be helpful.
 
So if you can help leave a reply.
 
Harold
 


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