From: jodar@girtab.usc.edu (Nicholas Jodar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: talks.politics.mideast
Date: 11 Apr 1992 20:58:13 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu
Summary: For Lack of an Islamic State....
Keywords: Islamic State

In article <1992Apr12.002009.24291@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ai726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alice Schubach) writes:

>For YOUR own information, the only Arab country that has recognized
>Israel is Egypt. That was during the administration of President Jimmy
>Carter, when Sadat took the daring step of going to Jerusalem to make
>peace. The Arabs are at the peace conference, but they definitely have
>not recognized Israel. This is simply a fact and is not a matter of dispute.
>
>Alice Schubach

You know, I find it interesting how many people speak of 'Arab
countries' and 'Arab leaders' as if they were 'muslim countries'
and 'muslim leaders.'  I figure this is largely due to ignorance.

Under the rule of an Islamic State, the Khilafa (or leader) is
elected by the Magis Al'Shura, a governing body which is itself
elected by representatives of the people (who are elected in turn
by the people).  This Khilafa is responsible for seeing that the
State is run well and that the rights of all citizens are upheld.
(Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Worship, Freedom from Arbitrary
Imprisonment, etc.)  The Khilafa is answerable to the Magis
Al'Shura, and holds his position until his death, or until he is
replaced by the Magis Al'Shura for one reason or another.

All rights and priviledges for those living within such a State
of Islam are contained within the Qur'an.  These rights are not
only to be upheld by the State itself, but by the individual
muslims themselves.  (Anybody living within the State who is not
muslim is not bound by the Qur'an.)  This is the foundation of
Islamic society.

What is obvious to anybody who knows anything about Islamic
States and the history of the muslims is that:

1) An Islamic State would be a nice thing to have;
2) Islam has no more to do with 'Arabs' then Judaism has to do
   with 'Jews';
3) The state of affairs in 'muslim countries' is unacceptable;
4) The 'leaders' of the 'muslim countries' are in name only;
5) There is currently no Islamic State....

The muslims in Algeria were ALMOST able to establish an Islamic
State, but the military would have been disbanded under Islam.
Not only that, those who had abused their power for years would
have had their power stripped from them, and the economy would
have been overhauled to bring the prosperity back to the people
instead of just the leaders.

So they nuked them.  

When Peru's President declares Martial Law and disbands the
congress because they were 'uncooperative,' the various White
House members condemned his actions.  When the army in Algeria
disbanded the congress, rounded up bunches of people to throw in
jail without trial, and executed others, the U.S. promised them
full support and financial aid in the 'crisis.'

The Algerian 'government' has been promised AT LEAST 40 MILLION 
DOLLARS in support, which includes the support of many so-called
'Arab leaders.'  What are they afraid of?  

'Islamic Fundamentalists.'

So much for democracy in action....

-Nick

If there are any errors in what I have written, I beg Allah (SWT)
to point them out to me.  If I have made none, it is only
through the Grace of Allah (SWT), and all praise is due to 'Him.'

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