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From:  blair@obdient.chi.il.us (Doug Blair)
Subject: Re: More Call Letters and Rumor Control
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Obedient Software, Naperville IL 
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:51:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.204352.10348@gagme.chi.il.us> watson@wink.corp.sgi.com
(David M. Watson, Jr.) writes:
>Scott Fybush writes:
>
>A friend of mine at school in 1972 claimed his parents owned several
>stations around the country, and originally named them after members of
>the family.  
>WVBF was one such station.  My friend's mother's full name was Virginia
>Brown Fairbanks and I believe his father's company was the Fairbanks
>Broadcasting Company.

You did indeed go to school with the son of a broadcast magnate.  Not only
was WVBF named for Virginia Brown Fairbanks, WRMF in West Palm Beach was
named for Dad: Robert Morgan Fairbanks.  What was the son's name? Maybe
we can find his station somewhere :-)

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From: mac18@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael A. Cornell)
Subject: Re: Compiling list of station positioners
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 06:06:36 GMT

Here's my $.02

"the best variety" 97.5 WPST Trenton, NJ
"the new sound of Eagle 106" 106.1 WEGX Philadelphia
"The NEW Q102" 102.1 WIOQ Philadelphia (I think it is still this)

I can't think of the calls for some of the others I know...
I'm not in Philly right now.

Mike Cornell

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From: Nigel.Allen@lambada.oit.unc.edu
Subject: Clinton and Gore on FM simulcast
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: __
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:44:18 GMT

I'm a Canadian, and so I'm obviously not going to be voting in the
U.S. elections, but I saw the following press release from the
Clinton/Gore campiagn and though it might be of interest here.

At least it's a change from television advertising.

Here is a press release from the Clinton/Gore Campaign.

Clinton and Gore to Meet Young America over Airwaves in Effort
to Register a New Generation
 To: National Desk, Political Writer
 Contact: Ethan Zindler of the Clinton/Gore Campaign, 501-399-3852

   LITTLE ROCK, Ark., Sept. 30 -- Gov. Bill Clinton and 
Sen. Al Gore will bring their message of change to a nationally
simulcasted young people's forum on Thursday, Oct. 1, at 8 p.m. CDT.
   The event will take place in Madison, Wis., and is part of
the Clinton-Gore campaign's on-going efforts to register young
people to vote.
   "Al Gore and I look forward to an open dialogue with America's
young people Thursday night. We are going to talk straight
about what is important to them and encourage them to register
to vote," said Clinton, the Democratic Party nominee.
   The forum will be hosted by the nationally-syndicated FM call-in
show "Rockline" in conjunction with "Rock the Vote", a non-partisan
organization founded on the premise that young people have an
enormous potential to create change. The program will be
broadcast via satellite to over 150 FM stations and to
numerous college "watch parties" at campuses nationwide.
Between the college satellite link-up and the "Rockline"
broadcast, an estimated ten to fifteen million 18 to 24
year olds will participate in the national forum.
   "What is most exciting about this event is that it allows
Clinton and Gore to communicate directly with a wide range of
young people from all backgrounds," said George Stephanopoulos,
the campaign's communications director.
    ------
   Broadcast Editors: the coordinates to downlink the program
are:

   Band:                 KU Band
   Satellite:            SBS 6
   Transponder:          14 Full
   Downlink Frequency:   12043.5
   Audio:                6.2/6.8

 -30-


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From: lightw@cetra.trl.OZ.AU (Liron Lightwood)
Subject: Re: KIIS-FM 
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:00:32 GMT

jwg@acd4.acd.com ( Jim Grey ) writes:

>This is one of my pet peeves about radio today -- the fear in the hearts of
>Program Directors to play anything that isn't familiar -- read done to
death.
>As I punch the buttons and twiddle the knobs part-time at the local rock
>outlet, I say:  If I have to play Smoke on the Water and Comfortably Numb
>and all that again, I may just have to start tearing out my hair, follicle by
>follicle.   
> 
>I just came off an "all request weekend" at the rock station.  Overwhelmingly,
>requests were for the same top 100 songs we always play.  It's unfortunate,
>but the old tried-and-true seems to be what the unwashed masses want to
hear.
>We compiled all our request logs from the past year and also solicited cards
>and letters for listeners'  five fave rock tunez of all time, and presented
>a "Top 500 of All Time" deal over Labor Day weekend.  Guess what the top five
>songs were.  Hotel California, Layla, Stairway to Heaven ... You can 
>probably fill in the rest of them.  The listeners chose these songs.  They 
>really went nuts over the last hour of the countdown, where the top ten or
>so songs were played.  They loved every minute of it.  Those of us in the
>booth were holding our noses at the overplayed wonders on the list.
> 

It's really a two way street.  You play these songs.  Your listeners like
this music so they listen to you, those that prefer other music probably
listen to
other types of stations.  Your listeners may be choosing your kind of
music, but at the same time, your kind of music is choosing your listeners.

I hate it when stations point to the request shows and say 'That's what our
listeners want. '  After all, request shows (at least over here), apart
from the Top 8 at 8 type shows and a very few exceptions, tend to contain 
exactly the same mix of music that any normal playlisted show would contain.

I'm sure radio stations filter out any requests for songs they don't want
to play.  So if you rang up or wrote to a classic rock request show and 
asked for a New Kids On the Block song, I'm sure your request would not be
played, which is probably fair, considering that other listeners might tune
out if this request was played.

Which is another reason why more people don't request something different.

Sometimes I supspect ( :-) ) those stations that hold write-in request weekend
type shows, choose the songs they'll play in advance, and just pick the first

people who request these songs.

Liron Lightwood                     Internet : r.lightwood@trl.oz.au
Telecom Research Laboratories       Phone : +61 3 253 6535
770 Blackburn Road                  Snail : P.O. Box 249 Clayton 3168 Australia
Clayton  Vic. 3168 Australia        Disclaimer : My views are not my company's

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From: tonym@world.std.com (Tony Matt)
Subject: Re: Call Letter Meanings
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 07:23:28 GMT


In Boston:

WODS - Odious  ;-)


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From: rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman)
Subject: Re: **SUMMARY** Call Letter Meanings
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 07:35:56 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.024740.17130@gagme.chi.il.us>, Several Posters writes:

|> In/around Ft. Lauderdale/Miami:
|> WCIX - channel 6
|> WLVI - channel 56 (Roman numerals)

Hey!  WLVI is channel 56 in Boston.  Surely the FCC didn't 
grant the same call letters to two stations in two 
different cities?

-- 
Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com

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From: fybush@unixland.natick.ma.us (Scott Fybush)
Subject: Re: More Call Letters and Rumor Control
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: WBZ radio
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:50:15 GMT

watson@wink.corp.sgi.com (David M. Watson, Jr.) writes:

>Scott Fybush writes:

>>
>> WVBF-FM Presumably Voice of Boston and Framingham...
>>

>A friend of mine at school in 1972 claimed his parents owned several
>stations around the country, and originally named them after members of
>the family.  Knowing other things about him, I was inclined to believe
>him at the time, but you may know enough to prove or disprove his story.
>WVBF was one such station.  My friend's mother's full name was Virginia
>Brown Fairbanks and I believe his father's company was the Fairbanks
>Broadcasting Company.

>After all these years, I'd be interested to know whether his story
>checks out.

> -David.

Well, it seems to.  WVBF _is_ owned by the Fairbanks Broadcasting
Company, which is in turn owned by someone named Fairbanks who lives
in Florida.  Of course, it certainly couldn't have hurt that Mom's
middle and last name just happened to be the initials of the nearby
major market and the legal city of license :-)

So how does this explain sister AM station WKOX?

Scott Fybush -- fybush@unixland.natick.ma.us



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From: bijans@phoenix.princeton.edu (Bijan Mohammad Salehizadeh)
Subject: Re: WLUP shuffles superstars, Howard Stern to join.
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:00:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.030827.17324@gagme.chi.il.us> rfa@Turing.ORG (Robert F.
Alexander) writes:
>In article <1992Sep26.073836.1308@gagme.chi.il.us> blair@obdient.chi.il.us
>(pri=-10-Doug Blair) writes:
>>The reason that WLUP is putting Howard Stearn on their AM should be
>>obvious: they own the station.  
>>
>>====> No matter who is doing mornings on WLUP the station will lose
>>	some listeners to Howard Stearn.
>
>And it's entirely possible that the station that puts Howard
>on the air might lose some audience due to the fact that
>alot of folks can't stand the jerk..
>
>^^^^^^^
>My opinion..
>
>Robert
>
I don't want to have a "Is howard god or is he a jerk?" thing going
here, but  just look at the ratings for every city he has ever been on
the air in.  He's No 1 Arbitron in New York and Philly and number 3 in
LA (and close to winning) and he has substantial ratings in DC and his
new markets will do just as well.  I don't think you can rightfully
(especially if you're in the indusdtry) make the claim that a station
that gets Howard will have a reduction in listeners...that just is not
supported by the facts.

And that' snot my 2 cents worth...that's the truth.

-Bijan
  

n
the air in.  He's number 1 asrbitron in New York and Philly.  


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From: fybush@unixland.natick.ma.us (Scott Fybush)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Alan Combs' Compuserve Number
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: WBZ radio
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:46:55 GMT

855herrera@gw.wmich.edu writes:

>Anyone know Alan Combs' Compuserve number? He is the other radio talk show
>host out of New York that has that "Radio Graffitti" at the beginning and end
>of each show.

>And, is that really his name?  He never says how he spells it on the radio
>and I never have seen his show advertised with the correct spelling of his
>name. 

It's Alan Colmes.  The other station where I work, WCAP Lowell MA, airs
him on tape delay from 7 to 9.  WKOX in Framingham MA just started carrying
him live from (I think) 3 to 5.  

I don't think all that much of him, and anyway the delayed broadcast airs
against David Brudnoy on WBZ, IMHO the most intelligent commercial radio
talk show host in the country (if you've never heard him, and you live
in the East or Midwestern US, tune in 1030 any weeknight between 7 and
midnight eastern time.  I guarantee you'll find it interesting.)

Scott Fybush -- 
<
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From: rfa@Turing.ORG (Robert F. Alexander)
Subject: Re: Commercials and listener station hopping
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 07:25:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep23.000651.17400@gagme.chi.il.us> blair@obdient.chi.il.us
(pri=-10-Doug Blair)  writes:
>In article <1992Sep18.215331.25108@gagme.chi.il.us> rfc@aloft.att.com (Bob
>Casey) writes:
>>If I was an advertiser, I might find it worth my while to demand to be the
>>first commercial in a block, and get my product name stated at the beginning
>
>
>	 and instead view retaining the listeners' attention
>for as long as possible more important then getting the slight premium
>for first position, so we play commercials in most-musically-interesting-to-
>least-musically-interesting order. 
>-- 
>Doug

I think Doug makes a very valid argument here, and believe
me I've seen it done every way in the book and argued to
death around the old programming table.

My feelings are that a listener might tolerate a single spot
before recognizing that he is even into a commercial break.
Therefore we put the weakest of the set up front and try to
get stronger as we go. (i.e. Voice first, Voice overs
second, Nationaly produced third , and finish with something
dynamite.) Now we would all like to think that all our spots
are good and creative and should catch the attention of the
audience. That is what the advertiser is paying for, right.
Doesn't always work out that way tho does it? 

You can see that if you line up 20 consultants you would
probably get 20 opinions on this subject. The important part
is to make all your material as good as it can be, don't go
over 3 1/2 minutes if you can avoid it and get back to
music. Running at the mouth at the end of a spot set will
cost you as much as another spot itself. 

My $0.02 worth.  Anyone else got any ideas. Sure would like
to drop a stack of this stuff on my program director. He
thinks he is in tune with his audience. HA HA HA HA. 
 

g
-- 
rfa@turing.ORG    ( KD4QBD )         /      BROADCAST ENGINEER
(804) 296-7697  Hm                   /      WCHV         WWWVV
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From: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
Subject: NBC Radio Network (was Re: What REALLY happened to RCA)
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: The GRAFex Company
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:02:37 GMT

nucsrl!ddsw1.mcs.com!jtl@uunet.UU.NET (Joe Lynn) writes:

]...[
 
> In Chicago, the two NBC-owned radio stations were sold to two different
> companies:  WKQX (FM 101.1) was sold to Emmis Broadcasting,  and WMAQ
> (AM 670) was sold to Westinghouse.  WMAQ-TV (Channel 5) is still owned
> by NBC, and has studios in the spanking-new NBC tower (complete with
> peacock).

Peacock on the building?

steve

-- 
play:steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US 408.252.0578     work:harding@nas.nasa.gov
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From: bonk@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Bonk)
Subject: Bob Lassiter, Need Info
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 03:07:31 GMT

 A talk show host named Bob Lassiter (sp?) used to be on WLS
 AM 890 in Chicago a few years back.  Does anyone know if 
 he is currently working somewhere??  Please reply by mail
 if you have any information.


				Thanks-
				bonk@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu

[Moderator's Note:  Don't you miss him?  I sure do.  Bob was certainly a very
talented, although brash, host of WLS's PM drive.  I found him refreshing,
very funny, a bit irritating at times, and certainly well worth listening to.
He was fired, supposedly because he was too rude, but I really think that it
was because of his outspoken politics.  Last I heard, he was bound by the
remainder of his contract to 'not compete' in Chicago radio.  He can be
reached through his agent, Saul Foos, of Foos & Assc. in Downtown Chicago.
If anyone knows if Bob has an e-mail address, I would love to write to him.
If anyone has info on Bob I, too, would like to know.  Since his demise, and
the departure of Stacey Taylor middays, that station has lost virtually all
of it's style.  Roe Kahn (sp) is good, but is no Lassiter.  How much Limbaugh
can a sane person listen to :-)?]
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From: rhalse20\@ursa.calvin.edu (Rob Halsey)
Subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh's Compuserve address?
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 03:08:05 GMT

855herrera\@gw.wmich.edu writes:

>Anyone know Rush Limbaugh's Compuserve number? Please mail to me because I
>want to send something to him.

Certainly.  The address is as follows:
70277.2502\@compuserve.com

Have fun, fellow dittoheads...
--
Rob Halsey                       | "I will love him and hug him, and squeeze
(rhalse20\@calvin.edu)            |  him and pet him, and pet him and squeeze
Calvin College  Phi 33           |  him and I will call him George!" 
Grand Rapids, MI 49546           |                    -Looney Toons (tm)

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From: rcnelson@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ryan Christian Nelson)
Subject: looking for top 40 lists from the 80's
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 03:08:50 GMT

Can anyone tell me if there's a site out there that has old (circa 1985)
top 40 music charts (R&r, or billboard, or whatever)?  I'm doing research
for a radio show that dredges up 80's classics.

I'd also love to know if there's any hardcopys of stuff like this. (i'm looking
for week to week stuff, rather than the easily found top 40 songs of 1987 kind
of stuff)

Falco lives... eh, commisar?

Thanks lots.
rcnelson@icaen.uiowa.edu
Ryan Nelson
KRNA Iowa's Rock 'n' Roll 94.1              KRUI Your Sound Alternative 89.7
Iowa City, Cedar Rapids                     All of Iowa City (on a clear day)





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From: bilver!bill@peora.sdc.ccur.com (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: What REALLY happened to RCA
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 03:16:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.025010.17292@gagme.chi.il.us> tonym@world.std.com (Tony
Matt)  writes:
>In article <1992Sep19.075101.688@gagme.chi.il.us> rclayton@urbana.mcd.mot.com
>(Randy Clayton) writes:
>>>>>>> On 15 Sep 92 19:40:27 GMT, Bohdan Tashchuk said:
>>At one time RCA made televisions here. I understand that they now get
>>them from Thomson CF - a French Company. 

>I believe that GE sold the combined television operations to Thomson, 
>with a licence to use the RCA logo on their sets.

Close - GE sold the operations to Thmoson CSF with a license to use the
name "General Electric" on their consumer TV sets for 10 years, and
Thomson now owns the RCA trademark entirely.   So it's GE for 10, RCA
forever.

-- 
Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org  bill.vermillion@oau.org
                - bill@bilver.uucp 
                - ..!{peora|ge-dab|tous|tarpit}!bilver!bill


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From: roy@panix.com (Roy Radow) 
Subject: Tom Snyder, Where Are You ?
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 07:37:15 GMT


I just got back from a month's vacation and Tom was gone.

I used to listen to him on WABC (770 AM) in New York every
night and elsewhere when he was preempted by ball games.

Now I can't find him at all.

Will someone please get back to me and tell me WHAT HAPPENED.

Roy

-- 
Roy Radow               roy@panix.com         ...rutgers!cmcl2!panix!roy

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From: ed.hopper@ehbbs.gwinnett.COM (Ed Hopper)
Subject: RE: MEXICAN SKIP/BORDER STATIONS
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Ed Hopper's BBS - Berkeley Lake, GA - 404-446-9462
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:09:07 GMT

In article, 1992Sep23.000905.17559@gagme.chi.il.us, ba903@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
(Charles P. Hobbs) writes:
-> In a previous article, gutierre@noc2.arc.nasa.gov (Robert Michael Gutierrez)
-> sa
-> >Just a question about "Mexican Radio" (remember Wall of Voodoo?). >
-> >I was just wondering what is going on with so-called border stations,
-> >where the programming/studios are in the USA, but the transmitters >are in
-> Mexico.  The most popular was, of course, XER-(A through F) >in Cuidad
-> Juarez.  The XERB incarnation was, of course, home to >'Wolfman Jack' (and
-> represented in 'American Graffitti').  XER was >also best known as the
-> classic mega-watt AM broadcast band station >before the WARC(?) took care of
-> all that.

Nope, XERF was NOT in Juarez.  I grew up in El Paso (contiguous to Juarez) and
worked for many years at KSET-AM/FM there.  XERF was in Ciudad Acuna in the
state of Coahila (forgive the fractured spelling).  That was several hundred
miles down the Rio Grande from El Paso/Juarez.  Wolfman Jack used to work at
XERF. (At least that's where I used to listen to him). To the best of my
knowledge, there were no other XER* stations in Juarez either, but I could be
wrong.

The big dog in Juarez was XELO at 150KW on 800 khz.  They ran all the hype
stuff at night in English.  For example, there was the "100% effective bug
killer".  It was two blocks of wood.  Place bug on block A and strike with
block B.  Some Americans in El Paso had the night time XELO hours under
contract and sold time.  They had all sorts of John Birch Society commentators,
preachers, etc.

XELO later changed call sign to XEROK and operated in english for some time as
X-ROK 80.  They were a full blown top-40 station.  They competed with El Paso
rockers KELP and KINT and DX oriented stations like KOMA.  They cut tapes at a
studio in El Paso and then carried them across the bridge. I think the station
was on a 24 hour delay due to this. You'd hear the jocks say things like "It's
around 8:15". One day, the whole staff got fired and they were back to
spanish.  They retained the XEROK call, however. You can still see billboards
for XEROK "Radio Canon" (Imagine a ~ over the first n) in El Paso.  They were
the only high power station (i.e., greater than 10KW) in Juarez (or El Paso,
for that matter).
                                                                             
                                      

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From: genghis@uiuc.edu (Tim Elliott)
Subject: Re: Commercials and listener station hopping
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: UIUC Computing Services Office
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:53:45 GMT

barry@jab.tucson.az.us (Barry Mishkind) writes:

>Somewhat simplistic, I'll admit. But six spots in a row is NOT what radio 
>should be about.

tell that to The Blaze/Chicago (103.5 WWBZ-FM)...
-> 5.5 minutes commercials... (6, 7, or 8 units)
-> 1 song
-> then 4 more minutes commercials... (4 or 6 units....)

is quite frequent between :32-:45.  the rest of the hour is usually
music-intensive.  now THAT's what i call burying a spot....
(ps.  quite frequently the same spot will be repeated in those stopsets...)

//tim
-- 
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From: 855herrera@gw.wmich.edu
Subject: Rush Limbaugh's Compuserve address?
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Western Michigan University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 07:37:34 GMT

Anyone know Rush Limbaugh's Compuserve number? Please mail to me because I
want to send something to him.

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From: nucsrl!ddsw1.mcs.com!jtl@uunet.UU.NET (Joe Lynn)
Subject: Re: NBC Radio Network (was Re: What REALLY happened to RCA)
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Macro Computer Solutions, Inc.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 06:06:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.210237.10859@gagme.chi.il.us>
steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB) quotes me then writes:
>
>]...[
> 
>> WMAQ-TV (Channel 5) is still owned
>> by NBC, and has studios in the spanking-new NBC tower (complete with
>> peacock).
>
>Peacock on the building?




Yup.

The NBC Tower in Chicago is located near the "North Pier" area, and
as you drive by on Michigan Avenue, you can see the peacock gleaming
from the top of the building.


Joe Lynn
-- 
jtl@ddsw1.mcs.com

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