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From: gibson@crisium.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson)
Subject: HELP: Classic, Rustic, Romantic Winter Lodges
Organization: Dept. of Astronomy / Univ. of British Columbia
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 21:59:50 GMT

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I am desperately looking for suggestions for the "perfect", romantic Christmas
getaway.  Ideally I'm looking for an oldish, rustic, lodge like the "Old
Faithful Inn" at Yellowstone or the "Glacier Park Lodge" in Montana (or even
the "Overlook Hotel" in the film "The Shining"), but one which is open over 
the Christmas holidays.  Western Canada or the NW or west coast of the 
continental US would also be ideal.  Skiing is not a priority ... fireplaces, 
rich woods, you get the idea ...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
   Brad

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From: davelett@athena.mit.edu (Richard Sun)
Subject: Re: Passport needed for visa?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:50:03 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.204728.25008@ads.com> henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
>The passport office doesn't generally turn around a passport in one day unless
>you have an emergency (a ticket with a recent departure) and any country
>which requires you to have a visa may take one day or fifteen to
>process your application.

I don't know about the other offices, but the New York City (Rockefeller
Center) passport office will process any passport application instantly
(if you request it) if you have all the necessary documents and photos.
Generally, you want to be there as they open their doors, since the wait
it longer than the wait at the DMV.
Most embassies in NYC will also grant instant visas.  Still, if you have the
time, it is better to get all your documents ready before you travel,
especially since the DC area may have different rules.
From: jameison@orion.sybase.com (jameison martin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: San Francisco sightseeing DONT DO!
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:57:46 GMT
Distribution: usa

You'ld be wise to skip all of Fishermans Warf -- its
a tawdry tourist trap.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Indonesia
From: sulistio@futon.SFSU.EDU (Sulistio Muljadi)
Date: 25 Jul 92 23:39:24 PDT
Organization: San Francisco State University

In article <1992Jul26.022803.22434@rose.com> mark.seltzer@rose.com (mark seltzer) writes:
>
>Date Entered: 07-25-92 22:21
>
>C(>In article <92205.085700JXO8@psuvm.psu.edu> JXO8@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
>Borobudur is a Buddhist monument, NOT a Hindu monument.
>

Borobudur is the largest temple on earth.  It is big, and hot, better wear hat

A lot of places to visit in Indonesia, not only Java, and Bali.  



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>Genius is one per cent inspiration and ninety-nine per cent perspiration.
From: gyoung@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Voluntary Work
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:25:41 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Hi,
 I'm not sure if this counts as travel, but has gone on the 'voluntary work
positions' available. Basically these are bare bed and meals in exchange for 
performing some work, like working to repair buildings in villages in third
world countries, or become a wwoofer, or helping at archeological digs (these 
usually with a fee involved). These are only a *very* few. I sent away for a
book detailing what was available, but it as yet to arrive, and i was wondering 
if anyone here has done this, and where to write to. Thanks.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Subject: Re: Collecting Visa stamps (was: Passport needed for visa?)
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:42:30 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.195256.20184@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, wb@rigel.uucp (Bill Beblo) writes:
> Regarding getting visas stamped in passports on arrival in Europe:
> 
> I've been to Germany (Frankfurt, Hamburg, and Berlin) several times over
> the past 4 years and not once did I ever get a visa stamped in my passport.
> Each time I was arriving directly from the USA.  In at least two
> instances my passport was not even opened.  The immigration officer
> saw that it was a US passport and simply gave it back to me letting me
> pass through.  Has anyone else ever gotten a stamp in Germany?

The very first time I went to Germany there weren't even any 
customs officers when I got off the plane at Frankfurt!
The whole planeful just walked right on through.
 
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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: lzs@indetech.com ()
Subject: Kauai Scuba Recommendation
Organization: Independence Technologies, Inc. Fremont, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:43:31 GMT

I haven't been on the net in a while, but I wanted to make sure that this
message gets out.

My husband and I were in Kauai, HI a few months ago and decided to try
scuba diving for the first time. Well, I was very hesitant, having heard
horror stories about these "teach you for one hour and then dive" trips.

Well, we had a fantastic time, and it is due to our instructor, Richard
Neumann. My husband and I both know how to swim, and have been snorkling
before, so we weren't total gringos. Rich started us out at the pool of
a nearby hotel. For one hour, we learned how to breathe using the regulators,
get the feel of the weights around our waists, etc. He wouldn't take us out
until we could successfully clear our masks of water (which is no small
accomplishment if you've never done it before!)

I was having some trouble with it, and almost decided to quit. But Rich
was very persistant and patient, and went over several more basic steps
until I could finally do it with confidence.

We did not dive from a boat. Instead, we went to a launch point in
Poipu and WALKED into the water. It was not scarey, and Rich constantly
monitored us. Much to my surprise, once I was under the water, I was just
*fine* and had a terrific time. We dove about 30 feet, and spent about
an hour under water. Rich pointed out all kinds of sea life, and we
got to handle some starfish, etc. It was really neat. When we finished,
he gave us both a "high-five" and seemed genuinely jazzed that we
had such a good time. Later, over donuts and juice (which he provided),
he told us that diving is his life, and he loves to give beginners
a feel for diving. He has something like 15 years of experience, and
is a "master instructor."

I must say, it was the highlight of my vacation in Kauai.

If you're planning to go to Kauai and want to try scuba diving,
give Rich a call! Here's his number. Tell him you saw it on the
computer network. He'll get a kick out it!

Richard Neumann
Sunrise Diving Adventures
Kapaa, Kauai
808-822-REEF

-Lynn and Rob


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{sun,sharkey,pacbell}!indetech!lzs
Fremont, CA
 
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From: dupugunt@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Krishna Prasad D. V.)
Subject: Air Ticket to San Jose (Round Trip)
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Distribution: cin
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 15:19:33 GMT



Hi Netters,

I have a two-way ticket from Cincinnati to San Jose, via Chicago
by American Airlines. This is a confirmed ticket leaving Cincinnati
on 13th August and coming back on 10th September. The cost of the
ticket is $200. If you are interested, please call me at
(513)-221-3515 or leave a message.

Thanks,

Krishna.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: fox@aa.washington.edu
Subject: Greece to Turkey
Reply-To: fox@aa.washington.edu
Organization: U of Wash Dept of Aeronautics and Astronautics
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:29:36 GMT

I will be in Greece this September and would like to travel to Turkey as well. What are the best options for travel from Greece to Turkey? Are there ferries available? (Any suggestions for favorite places in Turkey would be appreciated as well).

Thanks,

Mike F.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: au109@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Craig Williams)
Subject: Amtrak tipping
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 10:42:58 GMT


Hi folks,
Maybe I'm getting a bit more affluent, since my past experiences
have been on coach.  I'll be Amtrakking from Tampa to Cincinnati
this November, and will have a roomette from Tampa to Washington,
DC, then a slumbercoach from DC to Cincinnati.  I gather that there
is an attendant that takes care of the enclosed passengers in
his/her car.  What is it that they do?  And more importantly, what
size tip should I be expected to give them?

Thanks in advance.

I only get to see about 1/3 of the Usenet messages, so will likely
miss a response posted here.  I'd appreciate an e-mail response.

Craig Williams   usr1436a@tso.uc.edu
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From: cwm@beta.lanl.gov (Christina W Mercier)
Subject: Re: Black Death?? Lake Tahoe??
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:15:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.214052.125541@cs.cmu.edu> jennie+@cs.cmu.edu (Jennifer Kay) writes:
>OK, I know this is a bit strange, but anyway. Some friends of mine
>from abroad are coming to visit the US soon. One of them has heard
>that there has been an outbreak of the "Black Death" at Lake Tahoe.
>Does anyone know anything about this? Does anyone know if there is any
>reason to be worried about visiting Yosemite?
>
>Thanks,
>
>-- Jennie
>

They probably are referring to the plague.  We have it in Northern New Mexico.
It is mostly found in small animals, sometimes dogs pick it up from 
infected fleas.  People occationally get it but unlike the dark ages
it can easily be treated with antibotics.  I hadn't heard about cases in
Nevada, but it is not surprising.

From: johnson@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Cole Johnson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:12:19 GMT
Subject: Bollang Falls on Kauai:Where?
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.travel

I am looking for a waterfall on the island of Kauai called 
Bollag Falls.  I've looked in a couple hiking books specifically
written for Kauai and there was no mention of these falls.  Is
there anyone out there that has heard of these falls?  I'd like
to find out what kind of hike I'd be in for to see them.  

I'm the one who a while back asked for the name of the falls on
a television commercial featuring a Jeep Cheroke with a magni-
ficant falls in the background.  It took a while and some help
from a fellow netter but I was able to track it down through an
ad agency in Detroit.  Now if I could only find it on a map or
the name pf the trail on Kauai I could figure out whether to go
by myself or take the wife and kids along.

Thanks............
From: packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Passport needed for visa?
Date: 22 Jul 92 11:31:00 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Independence
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

Do I need to have a U.S. passport in hand to apply for a visa
to some other country? (I'm planning to go to Hungary and
Yugoslavia) I've never traveled outside the country, and I was
hoping to take care of my passport application and all my visa
applications in one visit to downtown Washington. 

Incidentally, do travel agencies handle visa applications?
From: rlf@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Bob Feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: French culture for the linguistically challenged
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:29:11 GMT
Distribution: rec.travel
Organization: Cornell Theory Center

In article <WOODRUFF.92Jul24131538@s34.es.llnl.gov>, woodruff@s34.es.llnl.gov (John Woodruff 422-4661) writes:
|> We two will spend a week in Paris in September -- our first visit -- and
|> want to learn as much as we can about French culture and history while
|> enjoying The Whole Tourist Experience.  Particular interests are Roman
|> times; hundred-years-war; Revolution; fin-de-siecle.
|> 
|> Our problem is that we are barely able to mouth the polite "please"
|> "thank you" "good day" and "another glass of wine, please" so we
|> anticipate some difficulty  with museum placards and such.
|> 
|> Can someone advise us how to find English language enhancements to our
|> investigation: perhaps English cassette tapes keyed to displays, or Eng.
|> guidebooks for museum collections, or a special museum show with
|> bi-lingual captions, or whatever?
|> --
|> John Woodruff   (woodruff1@llnl.gov)   510-422-4661
|> Employed by, but not representing the policys of
|> Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

The Louvre offers guided tours in English, several times a day, I think.
We went on one and it was excellent.

Bob Feldman
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: rberi@encore.WPI.EDU (Rajesh Beri)
Subject: Re: London Information - A note of thanks.
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:50:35 GMT

Thanks to all who sent me the requested information.
I received many replies and it was impossible to thank
everyone individually.

Have a happy vacation, everyone.

Rajesh

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From: mary@Cayman.COM (Mary Malmros)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Black Death?? Lake Tahoe??
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:42:17 GMT
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: jreece@sousa.intel.com's message of 28 Jul 92 23:20:24 GMT


In article <1992Jul28.232024.3906@ichips.intel.com> jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece) writes:

   In article <1992Jul28.214052.125541@cs.cmu.edu>, jennie+@cs.cmu.edu (Jennifer Kay) writes:
   > OK, I know this is a bit strange, but anyway. Some friends of mine
   > from abroad are coming to visit the US soon. One of them has heard
   > that there has been an outbreak of the "Black Death" at Lake Tahoe.
   > Does anyone know anything about this? Does anyone know if there is any
   > reason to be worried about visiting Yosemite?

   Some ground squirrels and other rodents throughout California are
   reputed to carry fleas carrying the plague.  I've been hearing this
   for a decade or two.  I think there might have been a case of one or
   two people getting it in Southern California in the early 1980's.  

   For that matter, raccoons are often carriers of rabies.

   All the more reason to do like the authorities say, and don't pet or
   feed the wild animals.  

   To put this in perspective, up to 6 tourists a year in Yosemite get swept over 
   waterfalls while wading, fall off the cliffs, or get struck by lightning.


Term confusion...

What you're talking about is probably bubonic plague.  From what I've
heard, it's endemic in the Southwest.  The vector is fleas, typically
found on rodents.  Bubonic plague can make you real sick, but it's
certainly treatable, and I don't believe the fatality rate is very 
high unless you don't get treatment.

The "Black Death" was something altogether different.  To this day,
nobody knows exactly what the disease known as the Black Death was.  
It may have been a plague variant, or perhaps a pandemic flu, such 
as the Spanish Influenza, caused by a virus that was sufficiently
different from other strains that people had little resistence to
it.  It was almost certainly NOT bubonic plague.  Outbreaks of 
bubonic plague did exist in Europe at the time, and did kill people
(certainly more than they would today, given that they didn't
know how to prevent it or treat it properly), but they were 
nothing like the Black Death, which had a much MUCH higher rate
of infection and mortality.  I believe the Black Death killed
something like 1/4 the population of Europe at the time.
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From: mk0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MONICA KELLNER)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Narita Airport -> Shibuya
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:46:10 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Jul20.164748@is.morgan.com>, scairns@is.morgan.com (Scott Cairns
) writes:
>
>What's the best way to get from Tokyo's Narita Intl. Airport to
>the Shibuya area of Tokyo?  Bus, train, alternatives?
>
The narita express. Second option, the limousine bus.
-- 
                                   Monica
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From: rjc@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (robert.cook)
Subject: Small Travel Trailers or Pop-Ups?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:39:57 GMT

In Yellowstone two years ago, I notices an REAL neat pop-up trailer/camper.
I don't recall the name brand, though I did look.  However, it pop-uped into a
small A frame.  Had a nice kitchenett, sleeping, etc..

Anyone know about this one or have recommendations for such an item?  I'm not
into the Silver Stream budget yet.

Anyone local to Denver, CO have anything reasonable for sale?

TNKS - Robert

Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:19:22 -0400 
From: Carolina Garcia-Paris <cg2i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re:- Puerto Rico advice/

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I hope this helps!

While in the San Juan area:
   Yunque Rain Forest, Luquillo - need to drive (east of San Juan)
   Dorado Beach area - need to drive (west of San Juan)
   Old San Juan - the Spanish Forts, Small Shops (avoid the area of La Perla, 
                  specially at night

   At night:
      Old San Juan
      Condado Area - Hotels, etc.

For middle three days:
   Ponce     - Tibes Indian Ceremonial Park
   Guanica   - Cana Gorda Beach, Dry Forest
   Cabo Rojo - Boqueron Beach, Combate Beach
               Joyuda Area - great restaurants







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From: lms@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Max Stern 310-524-6152)
Subject: Re: Chicago,Boston,etc.,subways 
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not neccessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 01:34:30 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.133108.12009@linus.mitre.org>
woodside@maestro.mitre.org (Jim Woodside) writes:

>	One always hears about the dangers and horrors of riding the NYC
>subway, I was wondering how other large cities' subways compare?

I have ridden extensively the subways of Boston, Paris, New York,
London, and Washington DC.

My experience in Boston and New York is too many years old to be
relevant to your question.

My experience in Paris was mainly in 1977.  At that time, the Paris
Metro was a little intimidating for the faint of heart, but at the same
time, the most vibrant and interesting of any I have seen.  Almost
every station has its own personality, often expressed in its decor;
for example, the Louvre station has tons of art reproductions
(sculpture, etc).  A warning:  the Paris Metro does NOT RUN from around
midnight (!) until 5:00 or so.

My experience in London was in the summer of 1990.  The London
Underground is a great way to get around, and seems well policed and
fairly clean.  Bear in mind that most of it is quite old as subways
go.  It's very easy to figure out how to get from here to there, and
the ticketing system is also very up-to-date.  Be sure you ask
questions about special rates and tourist passes, etc; also, be aware
that almost any train ticket that takes you into London can be used to
extend your trip by tube to your final destination.

My experience in Washington was exactly two months ago.  It's great!
Clean as a whistle, though boringly unadorned.  Easy to use.  As safe
as anyone could want.
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From: lib@cbnews.cb.att.com (Lib)
Subject: Beaches In New York, New Jersey, New England
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:42:42 GMT

  
Can anyone suggest some areas in New York, New Jersey or New England with
a bunch of nice oceea eor lke beaches within a reasonable driving distance
of each other? 
  
Thanks in advance.
   
P.S. What about Long Island? I've never been there. What about the Jersey 
Shore? Is it one long beach or what?
From: simon@cs.city.ac.uk (Simon Brock-Gunn)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: dual language tv broadcasts
Date: 21 Jul 92 10:58:59 GMT
Organization: City University, London

In article <weMi7ni00VpZ44GH1E@andrew.cmu.edu> mf1w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Franzini) writes:
>Here in Madrid several TV stations have started broadcasting in
>two languages-- original version (usually English) and dubbed
>(Spanish).  According to an article in the newspaper, you need a
>"special" TV to tune the alternate language soundtrack.  I'd like to
>believe there is a cheaper way.
>
>Can anyone explain how this works.

This sounds like NICAM digital stereo, such as we have in the UK.  The
only thing that is "special" about the TV is that it can receive in
stereo, and not mono!

Normally, the two sound channels are used for the left and right sides of
stereo sound, but it's possible to broadcast two mono sound channels
instead, in which case you select which one you want to listen to.

>                                    If I have a SW radio can I tune in
>the TV sound?

I don't know what frequencies all this is done on, but since it is all
digitally encoded anyway, it wouldn't make any sense even if you could
pick it up on your radio.

In the UK, you can buy NICAM decoder units to attach to older TVs, so this
could be an option for you, but I don't know how much they cost.

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From: gfl@hera.uucp (22402-lenahan)
Subject: Re: Scotland ideas (LONG)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 18:28:58 GMT
Keywords: Scotland

> >1.) See the "great glen" whihc divides the hgihlands, 
> >running, essentially up Loch Ness.
> 
> This is boring and full of tourists on a Loch Ness monster hunt.

Gee, I don't agree.  First, the geological formation of the Glen is
fascinating.  Second, the top end is gorgeous.  Third, Culloden
is of tremendous historical interest to many folks.  Finally,
and only finally, some folks might actually want to see the
current (NASA?) sonar / mapping work going on on Loch Ness,
which is rather unusual as a land-locked body of water that was
once open ocean.

What do you suggest avoiding vs. seeing, since I'll be in the 
area this fall?

Grant
gfl@hera.cc.bellcore.com