HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sunnyt@coding.bchs.uh.edu
Subject: (Q) Xceed 24 bit SE30/IIsi cards any good?
Reply-To: ln63sdm@sdcc4.ucsd.edu
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:01:20 GMT


Hey,

Is anyone out there using an Xceed technologies 24 bit video card?  If you are,  
could you please drop me a line, and tell me if its worth the money?  I'm  
considering this card for my IIsi, and would greatly appreciate any  
suggestions.

Sunny ------->  sunnyt@dna.bchs.uh.edu

P.S. Compatibility info with Daystar accelerators will also be appreciated.

Thanx in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: denault@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Tony Denault)
Subject: Mac Video/Networking question
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 22:18:56 GMT

Hello,

Our department is purchasing Mac's for the first time. Mac's are new to 
me, so if you can answer a few question I would appreicated it very
much. I am familiar with Suns & PC, but know almost zero about Mac's.
These are some question I can't get answers locally.

1. I was thinking of purchasing IIci's with NEC MultiSync 3FGx Monitors.
So immediately one could use the IIci's built in video capacity 640x480.
Later on, I could be purchase a video board to me increased resolution
In the PC world, a SVGA board can support 640x480x15, 800x600x8 and 
1024x768x8 bits on the 3FGx. Is there a Mac video board which the user 
can select different resolutions via software (640x480x24bits & 1024x768x8bits)
and be used with the NEC 3FGx? If so, can you provide model and manufacturer.

2. If I do add a separate video board with the NEC 3FGx, can I connect
a spare monitor to the IIci's video port to get a duel monitor version.

3. Our department has 3 Suns & many PC. They are all connected on an
ethernet backbone. The PC run PC-NFS (TCP/IP) and use the Suns as servers.
I am thinking of connecting all the Macs to the same ethernet. I will not
use its localtalk ports. I guess the Macs can do there own fileshare
sharing using Appletalk over ethernet. Will this work? Can Mac talk Appletalk
over the same wire while Suns&PC talk TCP/IP? Do they co-exist peacefully?

4. If #3 work. I want to dedicate a laserwrite to the Mac's. Someone
suggested using Dayna's EtherPrint box to connect a Laserwrite NT directly
to the ethernet. The Mac should be able to print without using one of
the sun as a server. Has anyone tried this?

Thanks

Tony Denault



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: cmmiller@iastate.edu (Chad M Miller)
Subject: How to determine speed of SIMMS?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:26:34 GMT

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Chad
  

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: dy@shire.math.columbia.edu (Deane Yang)
Subject: Troubles with a MacSE
Organization: Mathematics Department, Columbia University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:51:59 GMT
Summary: Followup on woes with a new internal HD
X-Posted-From: shire.math.columbia.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

I had posted a long message on difficulties I had in
replacing an internal hard drive in a MacSE with
a new one from APS.

The most disturbing problem was the Mac would often
bomb when booting up. It would, however, usually
boot successfully the second time.

I finally called APS and the guy there told me that
one possibility was that the computer was trying to
boot before the hard drive had spun up to speed.
To solve this problem, APS has apparently licensed
a little piece of software (Waittime?)
that delays the boot by
a fraction of a second. It's being sent to me
(and is also available on the APS bulletin board).

I hope this is the right answer, but am a little
skeptical, because in all my browsing of comp.sys.mac.hardware,
I've never seen this problem mentioned before.

If you have heard of this before, I would like to hear
about it. I also want to know if this problem can cause
corruption of the disk. It seems to me that there may be
more to my problem than just this. For a while, Disk First
Aid was claiming that the hard drive was not a Macintosh disk,
even though the disk would mount properly.

Deane Yang
From: ma168faf@imath3.ucsd.edu (Matthew Guarnotta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Monitor as T.V??
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:11:59 GMT
Organization: Univsersity of California, San Diego


Can anybody tell me if it's possible to use my apple 16" color

monitor as a television....also is it possible to have the computer

working as a monito and a little box 10" as a television...I have a

Mac Duo 230 and I'm getting a dock which has nuBus slots and I will

have 1 Meg of Vram to use to drive the 16" montito but I want to hook my VCR

up to the computer and use it to grab video and also use the monitor as

a television...Please help....is this possible???? Replies greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: wlarkin@hounix.org (Ward Larkin)
Subject: Questions about memory upgrades
Organization: Houston UNIX Users Group (HOUNIX), Houston, TX
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:09:55 GMT

I've received some conflicting opinions about power usage
associated with SIMMS memory upgrades.

I've been told that to upgrade my Mac IIfx to 32 Mbytes RAM
( 8 4-Meg SIMMS ) that I will need to obtain a more powerful
power supply.  32 Mbytes of RAM is going to require about
40 watts of power.

Even though my knowledge of electronics is limited to a
couple of college classes in beginning physics, this claim
seemed ludicrious.

If anyone knows for sure whether this 32 Mbutes RAM needs
40 watts is true, or not, I would like to hear from you.

Please email responses.  I will post a summary.


-- 
-- Ward Larkin
   wlarkin@hounix.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Subject: Re: SPEED and SPEED your IIsi
Organization: Massey University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 22:42:27 GMT

From article <pmontan-101192150035@paulmac.nswc.navy.mil>, by pmontan@nswc-wo.navy.mil (Paul Montanaro):
> In article <1992Nov8.114114.24899@news.Hawaii.Edu>,
> guiyu@spectra.eng.hawaii.edu (Kui Yu Chang) wrote:
>> 
>> For those who still don't know, I just read something here that says by
>> setting the Disk Cache in Sys7 to 768K, you get faster screen updates on
>> your Macintosh IIsi because all the RAM in Bank A(where the video memory
>> is also allocated)will be used-up.
>> 
>> I did an EXPERIMENT immediately and find that the speed-up is IMPRESSIVE!!!
>> 
>> All the machines below have similar system configuration, the IIcx uses a 
>> standard MacII 8.24 graphics card though.
>> 
>> Machine		Before		After set Cache -> 768K		Speed-up
>> =======		======		=======================		========
>> Mac IIcx	5.08 secs	5.08 secs			N.A.
>> Mac IIsi	8.58 secs	5.08 secs			1.69
>> Mac IIci	4.63 secs	3.66 secs			1.27
>> 
>>REST DELETED
> 
> Try redoing your test with lots of inits loaded.  I think you will find
> that 
> in this case having such a high cache setting is not necessary.  That's 
> because the inits also fill up the RAM in Bank A.  On my IIsi with lots of 
> inits I found the optimum cache setting to be between 128K - 256K.  Also 
> according to Speedometer 3.1, setting the cache too high to 768K causes the
> 
> disk speed to slow down dramatically.

See the timings I posted a short while ago. Setting the disc cache to anything
other than 32K has a major impact on disc I/O for sequential read/write.
If you have init's etc. - I have macsbug in there which helps I think -
you can easily use up the IIsi's 1Mb on board and get the video speedup
(with no init's the cache size required is 384k).

-- 
---
Dr Nigel Perry                    Email: N.Perry@massey.ac.nz
Department of Computer Science    Tel: +64 6 356 9099 ext 8900
Massey University                 Fax: +64 6 350 5611
Palmerston North
New Zealand
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: smisra@eos.ncsu.edu (SAURABH MISRA)
Subject: Voice Recognition with Macintosh
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 04:26:46 GMT

I am attempting to build a simple voice recognition system using a 
68HC11 and interfacing it with a Macintosh (to do the software analysis).

If you have any helpful tips on hardware or software, I would really
appreciate your help.  By simple, I mean it would only recognize 10
characters, name the digits 0-9.  

thanks in advance.

Saurabh

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Neil.Runyon@theboard.omahug.org (Neil Runyon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Mac Color Display (New Apple Monitor)
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:10:17 CST
Reply-To: neil.runyon@theboard.omahug.org
Organization: The Board BBS, Omaha
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware


I have found if I put an SE/30 to close to my IIvx that the Mac Color Display
does flutter (similar to what a TV might do).  It does not happen  if I have a
PB 170, so if your local Apple dealer has a machine such as a  Classic II next
to there IIvx that might occur.

Neil -
From: Postmaster@unine.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: II vx Vs Ci (some corrections(
Date: 11 Nov 92 08:22:10 GMT
Organization: University of Neuchatel, Switzerland

PLEASE DON'T USE E-MAIL


In article <1992Nov11.000917.153536@watson.ibm.com>, arsouth@watson.ibm.com (Andrew R. Southwick) writes:

 
> Feature                 IIvx:           IIci:
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> External Bus Width      16 bits         32 bits

     As far as I know : the vx has a 32 bits bus, but it runs at 16 Mhz 
     Someone can confirm/correct ?

> ROM                     ?               512K

     The vx has 1024k ROM which allow use of a RAM Disk

> NuBUS slots             2?              3

     The vx has 3 Nubus slot

> Built-in video res      832x624         640x480 (or portrait at 4bits)

     The built-in resolution of the vx is max 640x480

> Sound input             Mic +IIci ->    44.1 kHz stereo 8-bit sampling

     The IIci doesn't have a sound input but had stereo output (the vx 
     has mono output). It seems that the ci now also have mono output.

    
     These are the specs on the sheet distributed by Apple, except for
     the bus width (the info comes from MacUser, I think).

     PLEASE, DON'T USE E-MAIL      Thanks         P. Stadelmann
From: clin@jade.tufts.edu (Chuck (Satch) Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Apple Laser Printer
Date: 6 Nov 92 05:35:21 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA


Is there a way to stop the printer from ever printing a test page?
It is a huge waste of paper! The printer in our lab keeps printing
the test page because the printer is hooked up to a card reader.
This forces the printer to think that its out of paper if a printing
card is not inserted in the reader. Unfortunately this also
causes the printer to print a test page as soon as the printer
is turned on. Can someone help?
Please mail responces to clin@jade.tufts.edu.
thanks in advance!
-chuck
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: caraher@pn32.petnet.med.umich.edu
Subject: Re: Internal hardware maintainence
Organization: pet/cyclotron
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:19:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.225515.23550@gvl.unisys.com> dave@prc.unisys.com (David
Lee Matuszek) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.200958.22561@e2big.mko.dec.com> kim@inquis.enet.dec.com
writes:
>>
>>I recently opened up my IIsi (due to all the hubub about the IIsi upgrade).
>>When I did, I was surprised by the large quantities of dust within!
>>This does not seem like a good thing and may help contribute to the ailing
>>speaker/power light connection problem.  I've also been experiencing
>>the sad mac face syndrome occasionally too.  Questions:
>>
>>1. How does one clean the internal hardware?  Am I supposed to buy a special
>>vacuum of some sort?
>
>
>Don't vacuum, blow.  If you have a cannister vacuum, you probably can
>attach the hose on the exhaust side rather than the intake side; this
>is perfect.  If not, your own lung power is probably adequate, just
>wait for any spatters to dry off.  (I don't like vacuuming because
>there is more chance of accidental damage.)  This is best done
>outside, for reasons that should be obvious.
>
>Dust is a leading cause of the internal floppy drive getting flaky;
>pay special attention to getting it clean.  There is some small chance
>you will get more dust into it (or into the wrong place in it) when
>you clean out the Mac.  No problem, just blow it out again.
>
>I like to get rid of the remaining dust by going over the board with a
>SOFT brush (not a cloth, which could catch on things).  But I'm a
>perfectionist, ignore me.
>
One of the reasons for this is that for whatever reason Apple decided to use
the internal floppy's slot as an air intake for the cooling fan. I understand
that the older IIsi's are more prone to dust-related floppy trouble, and that
there is some sort of sleeve for the floppy drive that helps channel the dust
in a less destructive way that the newer units have.
From: w.l.vaughn@LaRC.NASA.GOV (Wallace L. Vaughn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: RAM upgrade for LW IINT?
Date: 6 Nov 1992 20:44:16 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: w.l.vaughn@LaRC.NASA.GOV (Wallace L. Vaughn)
NNTP-Posting-Host: b1205amac8.larc.nasa.gov

 From: David B. Lutz  dlutz@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

>We have a LaserWriter IINT with two megs of RAM that we want to upgrade the
>memory. Can anyone tell me in what increments the RAM can be upgraded?
>Can standard 1,2 or 4MB SIMMS be used?>

>Thanks in advance.

My instruction book says you can't upgrade the memory on a IINT, you can on 
the IINTX using the special memory chips the IIfx used, in either 1 or 4 meg 
sizes to a maximum of 12 meg. The next best Idea is to upgrade to a IIf 
board, it takes regular 80 ns SIMS (Like in the CI) and can be expanded to 8 
meg or much higher. 5 meg is the minimum for useful operation.

Wally Vaughn
These opinions are mine not NASA's nor the U.S. Governments
From: jrh@de.deere.com (John R. Howell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PB170 ram in PB100....
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:32:47 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Deere & Company

In article <collin.721340140@angelo>, collin@angelo.amd.com (Collin K. Ong)
wrote:
> 
> pmather@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Paul mather) writes:
> 
> >I'm using PB 170 RAM in my PB 100 (and have been for about two weeks).  
> >No problems so far!
> 
> So why do the ram mail order companies list a separate PB100 ram module
> from the 140/170 module?  (With the PB100 ram $40 more)

The 2MB abd 4MB memory modules are the same for the PB100, 140 and 170. 
The 6MB memory modules for the 100 are different from the 140/170 due to
the size of the physical space available for the board inside the different
boxes.

John Howell
Deere & Company
(The Big Green Tractor People)
jrh@de.deere.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jnowak@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joe Nowak)
Subject: Re: PowerBooks - 210 v. 160 as Midrange champ
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:24:19 GMT

A point on the reliability of the older form factors.  I would include the
100 in that group as well.  What I meant was that when the new PowerBooks
came out they were a number of problems that had to be worked out like
the floppies that did not read mass produced floppies, batteries that could
start fires, and pieces of the 100 that could melt through the case.  If you 
buy one of those machines now, all of those problems are gone thanks to Apple.
Since the 160/180 are about 80% old stuff I'd think they'd have less of those 
types of unpredictable problems than a new form factor like the Duos.

If I did not yet have a Mac, I would certainly go for the Duo set up in a 
heartbeat.  Or if my employer wanted to buy it for me.  I am just reluctant to 
sell my percectly good IIsi after only 2 years.

A point on floppies.  I work in a mostly DOS shop (actually its all DOS until I
bring this PowerBook in).  So I need the floppy to get files back and forth 
betwen Mac programs and DOS programs at work.  If I lived in a Mac shop, it 
wouldn't worry me.  I could just buy a floppy for a 210 and leave it at work of
course.

For now, in my circumstance I am still in favor of a 160 for my situation.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: pld@math.luc.edu (Peter Dordal)
Subject: ~800 x ~600 color monitor recommendations
Keywords: monitors
Organization: Loyola University of Chicago
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:44:14 GMT

I'm looking for a somewhat-larger-than-640x480 color monitor for a IIci.
When I started looking, I assumed that I could find an approx 800x600 
resolution monitor for just a little more money. Now I'm not so sure.

Does anyone have anything to recommend? 8-bit color would be *fine*.

Some ideas I've considered:
Color Pivot LE:-- problem: it has been discontinued (I may still be able
	to find one, though, if anyone has a really strong recommendation).
Color Pivot    -- problem: it costs TWICE the LE.

NEC 3FGx + NEC board -- problem: the board costs $800.
NEC 3FGx + another board -- Problem: whose? Any suggestions for a compatible
	board in the $400 range?

conventional 16-17" approach: problem: monitor+board runs $1700 or so.
	(I visited some dealers; this is what they all wanted to sell me.)

I'm trying to keep the price as little above 1K as possible.

I guess my real problem is that most equipment marketed for this niche
is directed towards high-end DTP. I'm not interested in that; all I *really*
want is enough room to be able to edit my foo.c and foo.h files simultaneously!

					Peter Dordal
From: awg0971@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Times 2
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:23:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: ultb.1992Nov12.162345.27312
Reply-To: awg0971@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

Times two is SUPPOSED to double your hard drive space without changing
ANY of your files. It does this by doing something with your drive's
drivers to make your drive think it's bigger than it is. It's claimed
to be 100% safe and effective. Has anyone had experience with it?
Any problems with it?

     
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From: noah@apple.com (Noah Price)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Speeding up the IIvx
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:47:42 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: (not the opinions of) Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Nov4.220531.8992@netcom.com>, bskendig@netcom.com (Brian
Kendig) wrote:
> >sluggishness is due to the 100ns memory (specified apparently arbitrarily
> 
> 100ns?  My IIvx manual says that the system requires "80ns fast-paged
> mode SIMMs".

You're right -- 80ns.  I missed that the first time 'round!

Replace any "100ns" in my reply with "80ns" :-)

noah

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
noah@apple.com                                 Macintosh Hardware Design
...!{sun,decwrl}!apple!noah   (not the opinions of) Apple Computer, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: >>> (Plus) SIMMs and SCSI HD questions.. Please Help! <<<<<<
From: zaphod@vax2.winona.msus.edu (Gregory Talmo)
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:51:17 -0600
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: world
Organization: Winona State Academic Computing

In article <1992Nov12.153910.17890@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
jmilhoan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (JT) wrote:
> 
> First, the SIMMs question...
> 
> What are the slowest SIMMs that can be used in a Plus?
> I understand I can use faster SIMMs in a Plus, but will the Mac actually be any faster?
> 

  In responce to your first question, I believe that 120ns SIMMs will work
fine in a Plus, and I beli3eve that you'd be hard pressed to find slower
SIMMs.

- Greg Talmo  (zaphod@vax2.winona.msus.edu)
                                   |The opinions expressed above are my
own,
 "A censor is a man who knows more |and do not necessarily reflect the
 than he thinks you ought to."     |opinions, tastes, or policies of Winona
                 - Granville Hicks |State University, its faculty, staff or
                                   |students.
From: aha@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Advanced Hardware)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: SE/30 24 Bit Color RasterOps vs Xceed?
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:29:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Nov5.202906.21232
Distribution: usa
Organization: Washington State University
Originator: aha@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu


I am about to purchase a 24 bit color card for my beautiful SE/30.
Does anyone know of any differences between the RasterOps 264/SE30 and
the Xceed Macrocolor 30 display cards? I am aware that the Xceed card
can support grayscale on the internal monitor.  The Macrocolor 30 is
also about $150 cheaper. Is the RasterOps card faster? Thanks in advance.

							Ken

Ken Baker
kbaker@aha.com
Advanced Hardware Architectures
Phone: 208-883-8000
FAX:   208-883-8001

--
From: nyang@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: IIvx won't startup.  Please help!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:50:04 GMT


Hi!   I just received my IIvx this afternoon.  I ran Speedometer and it crashed.
I then pressed the restart button and I got a disk icon with question
mark flashing.  I then made a start up diskette, and boot from it.  The hard
disk icon shows up, but when I choose the startup disk control panel,
nothing is in the window.  What should I do?  I tried to reinstall the
system, but the installer said there is a problem with my hard disk and I
should try again.  Should I zap the PRAM?  How do I do that?  Please, if
know anything about how to solve my problem, please e-mail me.  Thank you
very much.

Nick Yang   nyang@bonnie.ics.uci.edu
From: jhgillespie@ucdavis.edu (John Gillespie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Changing DTR on a Mac II serial port
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:18:47 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Center for Population Biology, UCD

I want to use the DTR line on the modem port of a Mac II to send
a timed pulse to some lab equipment.  I am totally unfamiliar
with low-level programming on the Mac so I need help bad! My assumption is
that I can write to the control register on the Z8530 by writing a control
byte to address sccWBase+aCtl.  Is that correct?  Next question: What
is the numeric value of sccWBase and aCtl on the Mac II?  Am I correct
in thinking that the serial driver is of no help here?  Finally,
I can't be the first one to want to do this, is there a book or FAQ or
something pointing the way?  Thanks for any help that you can offer!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: rkay@ausom.oz.au (Richard Kay)
Subject: PowerBook 160/180 To External Monitor (Q)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:06:52 GMT
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne

Has anyone  successfully connected their PowerBook 160 or 180 to the
new Apple 14 inch colour monitor?

What is the result like?

-- 
Richard Kay
E-mail: rkay%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au