HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: How does Eject work on an Apple 3.5 drive?
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:16:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.061850.8141@cs.uow.edu.au> david@cs.uow.edu.au (David E A Wilson) writes:
> I have looked at the IWM pinout description in tn-misc-006 and read
> descriptions of the 5.25" disk drive, Unidisk 3.5 Smartport and everything
> else I could find but have never been able to find out what the controller
> does to cause an Apple 3.5 to eject. The only additional signal the 3.5
> has over the 5.25 is the head select. How then can the drive be told to
> eject the disk?

The eject is performed by starting the drive motor and setting up a
normally illegal combination on the phase lines.  I can't remember
where I read this, and I can't find the test program I used to confirm it.

> Additionally, what precisely is the difference between the Macintosh 3.5
> interface and the Apple 3.5 interface (apart from the pulse width modulation
> signal required by the old 400k drives)?

It may just be that the drive has to recognise and ignore accesses to
SmartPort and 5.25" drives in order to work on an Apple II.
-- 
David Empson

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: Clayten_Hamacher@mindlink.bc.ca (Clayten Hamacher)
Subject: Re: Uh oh! Zip Cache is messed.
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 05:54:15 GMT

Sorry John but it's not... The info on the default settings is in there.. It
doesn't say what switch is for what though..

P.S. Try spelling the name right... Yeesh!

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Clayten_Hamacher@Mindlink.bc.ca                 Land of the rising snow.
From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: FVNet
Date: 24 Dec 1992 05:36:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


That will be nice.
.
On LLUCE well it is inthe final Beta testing. There are 3 systems in Florida
that are npw testing it. Either Wabbit's Warren or The Assilam will be on line
and operating it this week if nothing else crops up. The third site is part of
Ogg-Net and until he gets it to work right with the message bases then he will
have to hold.
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From: dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett)
Subject: Re: FVNet
Organization: Okcforum Unix Users Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 03:51:38 GMT

Umm, it'll be very transparent, no modifications will be done to the OGGNet
site, there will be one segment to handle it all on one FV Gateway site.

LLuce, eh? What a crock..


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From: sander@edsi.plexus.COM (Scott Anderson)
Subject: Re: Switch-It! Press Release
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1993 16:47:26 GMT


Todd and world, I'm sure that Jawaid means the system 6 macintosh
multi-finder, not the multitasker found in system 7.  Besides,
multitasking is pointless on a machine that is at the mercy of disk and
serial interrupts. (eg, system 7 is worthless multi-tasking)  When I
multitask I ftp, telnet and copy files, system 7 on macintosh does not
help me in the least bit over what Switch-It does on the GS.  Jawaid did
not misrepresent his product.

Scott Anderson
sander@carroll1.cc.edu
PS:I hate crossposters... :)
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From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: Optimization/fragmentation
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:08:45 GMT

sadasiva@utkvx3.utk.edu (Sadasivam, Krishna Madur) writes:


>What would be a good all-round utility program for disk optimization on

ProSel-16. Also works as program launcher, disk utilities including recovery,
text editor, scientific calculator, and more :)

>my //gs? What happens if you don't optimize your HD? Will the hard drive be
>seriously hurt, or only be affected in disk access speed? 

Disk speed would drop after a while, that's all.

Soenke-- 
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From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: Switch-It! demo
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 14:48:21 GMT

jimmys@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw) writes:

>Chalk up another one for Jawaid and the Procyon people :-)  What's
>next guys?

   If I were to tell you it wouldn't be a surprise, would it? :-)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz)
Subject: Re: Turbo mouse
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 04:53:20 GMT

In article <76048@apple.apple.COM> unknown@Apple.COM (Matt Ackeret) writes:
>In article <lv72328@pro-applejacks.cts.com> terry@pro-applejacks.cts.com (Terry DeSmet) writes:
>
>ADB is ADB is ADB..
>
>There isn't a Mac version of the trackballs and a GS version because both the
>Mac and GS use ADB.  It's sort of like how there aren't different
>external modems for different computers..  All of the computers talk to the
>modem in the same way, so you don't need a different version of the
>modem for each computer.
>
>-- 

Although I don't doubt that the trackball will work, the Mac version
comes with its own Control Panel program to customize the use of the
second button on the TurboMouse.  Getting a TurboMouse without such
an equivalent Control Panel would not allow this added feature on a GS.
Did the GS version come with its own software?

Paul Schultz
schultp@wl.com

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From: sledbett@nyx.cs.du.edu (Shawn Ledbetter)
Subject: Re: Fatal Error 0911
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 05:36:48 GMT



mcobb@scott.skidmore.edu (mary cobb) wrote:

>I get this sucker all the time.  The only solution is to power off, give
>the CPU a good *WHAP*, and turn it back on.  Never fails, Prosel pops up.

No no! :)  What you want to do is an Option-OA-Control-Reset.  What this
does is starts a self test.  After a few seconds press OA-Control-Reset.
It should reboot, if not repeat the process.  It puts less wear and tear on
the system than turning it on and off and whacking it. :)  The error 0911
is for an error concerning synchronization of the keyboard and the mouse if
I recall.  It comes from many sources, one of the main ones being the CPU
overheating.  Get a fan, probably a System Saver by Kensington if its still
made.

Shawn

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From: lcornel@eis.calstate.edu (Louis Cornelio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Spanish language word processor
Date: 31 Dec 92 05:25:02 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Please e-mail me for an extended answer to the inquiry about a Spanish WP;
I tried to answer you via e-mail, but I think it bounced.
Louis    lcornel@eis.calstate.edu
From: diff@comtch.spk.wa.us (Rick Diffley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: comments
Date: 23 Dec 92 01:29:35 GMT
Organization: Waffle BBS at CompuTech Spokane, Washington

From my reading of comments on the local Mac BBS and on the Mac RT of
GEnie, there's suppose to be a new & faster Mac LC, a color Mac Classic 
(not sure about that), and the other model....:-\
 
= Diff =

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From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Hard Cover
Date: 4 Jan 1993 01:47:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Does anyone know where a Hard Cover for the standard Apple // can be gotten?
Not the keyboard with the ten key on it, but maybe later on that one.
.
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From: herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Herbert Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: rom 1 to rom 3 upgrade
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 11:17:15 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Previously Clayten_Hamacher@mindlink.bc.ca wrote:
 
>There were 4 types of ROM... rom 0...This didn't give a version number
>at boot.
 
Actally there are only 3 versions of the GS ROM.
 
>rom1-3 these identified themselves. ROM 2 is rare, I'm not sure it was
>ever released. ROM 3 has a few more tools and comes with 1meg standard
>on the board.
 
The first ROM was 0, the second ROM is 01, and the third is 3. Because
the second ROM was numbered 01, many people were confused.
 
>That should give you enough info to tell which one yours is.
>
>--
>
>Clayten_Hamacher@Mindlink.bc.ca                 Land of the rising snow.
 
Rising snow eh? What do you think we get here? =) Merry Christmas!
 
--
Herbert Fung                    | "Hard work doesn't make miracles,
Edmonton Remote Systems         |   Miracles just make hard work!"
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada       |       The Herbster! 1988

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: chiu@alumni.berkeley.edu (David Chiu)
Subject: Re: Printer Card info (HELP!!)
Summary: Epson & Blubbing Idiots
Originator: chiu@alumni
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:13:18 GMT

In article <9212311150.AA23574@apple.com> ST7759@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU writes:

>IIe, using an Epson printer card.  The problem, according to Epson USA,
>is that the card I have a) was never released officially or b)is a
>Euro-creation. I did obtain the computer used while I was in Germany.  I
>have no cable for this card, and I do not know what to do.  The

or C) the tech at Epson USA are born well after early 1980s.

>connection on the card (an Epson APL 8132 W) seems to require a 20-pin
>connector similar to the connector found on the card end of the ribbon
>cables for the old Disk II drives, 2 rows of 10 pins.

The card you have is commonly referred to as 'EPSON APL' card. The place I
used to work at (an after market computer store) had tons of those... we
at apple tech referrs to them as 'the most compatible card' for printers
and softwares... (brings back some old memory...:)

>Could anyone out
>there fill me in on where I could get such a cable (the prntr end is
>standard Centronics 36), or BETTER, what the pinouts are for this card,
>as I would prefer to make a cable (due to my budget of near-nada) rather
>than buy one.  Budget is also the reason why I would prefer to use this
>card if at all possible instead of buying another card.  There was also
>a grafstar prntr card in my IIe, 2 rows if 13, 26 pins..Hm....
>I would appreciate any assistance.  Please Email.
>Thanks in advance...

The problem is that during the haydays of Apple II there must be a dozen
or so of companies making printer interface for the IIs, and just about
every one of them have different pin out for their ribbon cable (on computer
end, of course) So put in plainly, you're pretty much out of luck.

>-
>Alex Falkenberg
>st7759@siucvmb or st7759.siucvmb.siu.edu (internet)
>Southern Illinois University - Carbondale
>Es irrt der Mensch, so lang er strebt.  --- J.W.v.Goethe
>(Man is in error throughout his strife.)
From: 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Going from 4 megs to 8 megs
Date: 3 Jan 93 01:44:02 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MuGS Research and Development Facility

The following revelation escaped Mitchell Spector's lips:
> 
>    I'd like to hear from others who've already bought this new card....
> (Btw, this is _not_ the CV tech card that was expandable to 4mb on the card,
> and another 4mb via the piggyback connector on it's side for a total of 8megs.)

    But what about all those people who already have 4-meg cards?  I'd like
to upgrade to 8 megs with the original CVTech card, but apparently they
aren't making those anymore.  I know Terry Steeper doesn't carry the
original ones now (sold all his stock out).

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From: dwellman@amiganet.chi.il.us (Dan Wellman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Out Of This World Easter Eggs?
Date: 3 Jan 93 16:21:34 CST
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

In article <C0954G.Mso@well.sf.ca.us>, joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn) writes:
>As far as the Dragon Wars Easter Egg, it's been a long long time since I
>played that, but if I remember correctly, you'll come to a statue of St Woz.
>For anyone that has Tony Gonzalez's t shirt with the graphic of Woz, it's
>the exact same graphic. I don't remember how, but you have to push aside the
>statue, and underneath is an Apple IIGS which will help you win the game. On
>the IBM version of Dragon Wars, when you push aside the statue, you see a
>message that says something like "get a real compter, get an Apple IIGS".
>
>Joe Kohn

As far as I remember, the statue is in the location where the Pilgrim's
Ferry is boarding.. You walk around a corner of the dock, and you find the
statue.. Use your S)trength to move the statue, and you get a number of
items, including an Apple IIGS, which acts as a compass (and that's it,
as far as I know).. Let me know if I'm missing anything :)

Dan

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From: lurch@eskimo.com (Erik Kloeppel)
Subject: Re: Need to connect IIC to car (lighter plug) possible?
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 23:18:17 GMT

I don't think anybody makes the LCD screen for the ][c any more .. at least,
I hope not.  My wife has one and I HATE it... (she likes it, but _I_ have the
][GS... so).  Anyway - 

Try Sun Remarketing (800 - 821 3221),  Pre Owned Electronics (800 - 274 - 5343) or Altech Electronics (I don't hve their number handy)..

Lurch

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From: tcline@med.unc.edu (Timothy Lee Cline)
Subject: II/c--several questions
Originator: tcline@pelham
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:35:28 GMT

Lucky me--I have inherited my brother-in-law's Apple II/c. I have several
questions.  1) I need a printer cable to go from the II/c to an
Imagewriter II. Kind souls can send me one of course, but failing that:
can some of the more technically accomplished readers send me some specs
on how to build a cable which I can send to my local cable-building
company? I need to know DIN size of both ends, female, male, number of
pins per, and pin-outs etc.  2) I have an old Duo-Disk Drive. How can I best
connect this to the II/c so that I can boot from the Duo-Disk and be able
to use Drive 2 of the Duo-Disk? 3)This may be in the FAq, which I swear
I've scanned, but: what's the best way to get 5.25 Appleworks files (for a
IIe, yes IIe) into a Mac machine? Let's say it's going into MacWrite. I'd
like to know the mechanics/specifics (e.g. "you need a modem, a program
that will emulate a dumb terminal for the Mac and the IIe...).


Tim Cline
tcline@med.unc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: help a soon-to-be proline sysop!
From: cxdb14@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu (RANDY)
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:09:52 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

I would like to hear from current proline sysops who have their machines
connected to unix machines for mail exchange. I would like help setting
up my software to communicate with unix or info on how I can access via the net
a machine already set up. Reply here or to ranster@aol.com if this does not
work (I think this mail address is soon to be history.) Thanx in advance.
Randy
cxdb14@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu or
ranster@aol.com
From: thompson@UMDSUN2.UMD.UMICH.EDU (joshua m. thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Disk II on the Mac LC
Date: 26 Dec 92 17:25:11 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Off hand, I know of one gadget to accompilsh this feat.  Applied Engineering
sells a new cable for the Disk II under the name "//c Ext. Drive Cable" for
about $20.  It replaces your existing ribbon cable with one ending in a DB19.
It does _not_, however, provide a daisy-chain connector, so this drive would
have to terminate the drive chain.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: sadasiva@utkvx3.utk.edu (Sadasivam, Krishna Madur)
Subject: Bubble Ghost
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:31:00 GMT

How does one install Bubble Ghost on a HD? It says on the password information
that it can be HD installed. Has anyone done this? Will it work with System
6.0?

Reply by E-mail, please!

Krishna
From: 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ProTERM v3.0 ZipGS 8MHz v32bis/v42bis Losing CHARACTERS!
Date: 3 Jan 93 01:43:55 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MuGS Research and Development Facility

The following revelation escaped Sameer Parekh's lips:
> 
> 	I have had the above configuration for QUITE some time now, and I
> haven't been losing characters, but recently when I'm connected I am
> starting to lose characters. (Large sets of 3-4 chars at a time sometimes) I
> have ProTERM config'ed for a 38400 connection.

    Have you been running another terminal program before Proterm?  I get
that problem only if another program accessed the serial port before
Proterm.  Hit Control-Reset in PT and things should be OK.

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From: tomk@pro-nsdapple.cts.com (Tom Kelly)
Subject: Laser 128 drive for sale
Organization: ProLine [pro-nsdapple] - North San Diego Apple Users Group
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 06:01:12 PST

 I have a NEW (in the box) Laser 128 (5.25 in.) external disk drive for
sale.
 I am asking $70.00.  It has a DB-19 connector and will 
 work on a Laser 128, Apple ][c/c+/gs (and ][e with proper interface card).
 It must go at end of daisy chain (it has no connector to connect next
drive).
 It would make a GREAT Christmas present.
 Call me at (619) 562-2130 (Santee) AND send me E-Mail if interested.
From: 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Turbo mouse
Date: 3 Jan 93 01:43:57 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MuGS Research and Development Facility

The following revelation escaped Christopher Sokolov's lips:
> 
> While this is generally true, some ADB devices designed for the Macintosh
> do not work with the Apple IIGS.  Why?  I don't know, but that is what I
> heard.  I just think it is better to be safe then sorry. :)

    Usually a matter of software.  Things like pointer acceleration,
"chording" and other special features are configured using a CDev which
typically is available only in the Mac version.

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From: tonyh@pro-scat.cts.com (Tony Hamaoui)
Subject: Re: Comments Anyone?
Organization: ProLine [pro-scat] St. Petersburg, Florida.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 20:31:50 EST

I agree PC's are better.  first of all their are more programs for         
the PC than the MAC.  second of all the MAC's are more expensive than      
the PC's and third of all the MAC are always discontinued within           
4 or 5 months.  If you get a PC that says "intel inside" you know          
you will have that computer for a while. IBM cares about the consumer      
while APPLE cares about money, money, money "    "  "    " etc
From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: II+ upper/lowercase ?
Date: 29 Dec 92 03:36:00 GMT
Distribution: World
Organization: Champlain Regional College, St-Lambert QC CANADA

pads@ravel.udel.edu (Stephen J. Padbury) writes:

>I recently received an old apple II+ with a modem. (Hayes micromodem II
>300 baud) I am interested in using it for my e-mail account on the 
>UNIX based mainframes at the university. As you may or may not know,
>UNIX is case sensitive. The II+ refuses to have anything to do with
>Upper and lower case. I also have an apple IIc. I want to have some

I was looking through the manpages for the UNIX here, and it apperas that if
it detects that your terminal is incapable of lowercase text, it accomodates
it. This is done by login, so manybe you can convince the local admin to
install a newer version of login.

>Stephen Padbury
>pads@ravel.udel.edu
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From: smj@sdf.lonestar.org (Stephen M. Jones)
Subject: wanted: apple stickers and schtuff
Organization: Super Dimension Fortress - Public Access Unix - Dallas, Tx.. 
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:54:29 GMT

I want some apple computer stickers agian.. and maybe a white t-shirt
with the apple logo.. anyone have anythign??

-- 
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smj@sdf.lonestar.org <Cs&E> 
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From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Subject: Re: Why didn't my apple need a screen saver?
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:15:26 GMT


For the first time ever, Jawaid, I have to disagree with you. Screen savers
are more than just cute animations.

My IIGS monitor has phosphor burn. It developed after using 8 bit telecomm
programs where the top of the screen is white. Although I can't see it all
the time, that white menu bar is indelibly etched into my monitor.

IIGS monitors, like all computer monitors, will suffer from phosphor burn
if the same characters or graphics appear on the screen all the time.

Is it so bad that I can't use my monitor? No, it isn't.

Joe Kohn