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From: kyle@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kyle Wohlmut)
Subject: Cage for sale-- Val?
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:05:24 GMT

Moving woes, and that big 'ol python cage of mine must go to make way
for the new one, hopefully before the end of the month.  Valerie, are
you still interested?  I don't have your new e-mail address, so drop
me a line if you're out there somewhere.  Or if anyone else is in
contact with Valerie "Valkyrie" Haecky, you might mention that I'm
trying to reach her...

Thanks

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From: ZOOLXS@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU (SILBERBAUER,Letitia Xade)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: Truly tasteless Stephen King
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:00:42 GMT
 <Oct.1.02.57.55.1992.16706@remus.rutgers.edu> <BvG9pC.JMp@nic.umass.edu> <1992Oct1.221852.2741@u.washington.edu>
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <1992Oct1.221852.2741@u.washington.edu> stevep@wrq.com writes:

> In article <BvG9pC.JMp@nic.umass.edu>, jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl) writes:
> > 
> > Scrotum, scrotum, sac of skin
> > Scrotum holds your testes in.
> > 
> > A short poem, yes, but beautiful....
> 
> The lengthier choral version, as taught to me many years ago, is
> 
> Scrotum, scrotum, just a little bag of skin
> Scrotum, scrotum, just to hold your testicles in
>   It's scraggly
>   and baggly
>   and covered with hair
> But what would you do if it wasn't there?
> Oh, scrotum, scrotum, just a little bag of skin
> 
> Sorry I can't relate the tune as well, but sometimes life's nothing but
> a hirsute whore.
> 
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CUTE, BUT WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH HERPS??
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
From: seedman@IASTATE.EDU (Remo Williams)
Subject: New critter at Seed's Herpi-Dome
Keywords: Gopher Snake, Sonoran, New, Runner
Reply-To: seedman@IASTATE.EDU (Remo Williams)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 01:57:58 GMT


*********** Offical Press Release Follows .....

H.P. 10/5/92 (Herp Press)

	The herp-room at "seedman@iastate.edu"'s has just added a new
member.  The new addition is a Sonoran Gopher Snake (normal).  The gopher 
snake arrived on Thursday, October 1.  He is approximately 6ft long and not
very friendly (yet :-) ).  He has been christened "Vonely".  

	Anyone who has any suggestions or comments, send them to :

				seedman@iastate.edu


***********  End of Press Release
From: bzandrew@bbs1984.chi.il.us (Bill Zandrew)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: Herpetology Network Help!
Date: 30 Sep 92 06:51:03 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization

I'd like a copy of the press release for herp-net!
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
From: stevep@wrq.com (Steve Poole)
Subject: Re: Smell of Savanahs vs iguanas
Organization: Walker Richer & Quinn
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:05:43 GMT

In article <censvhK00WBNQ4AUgi@andrew.cmu.edu>, Alexander Bernard Brands <ab3n+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> 
> Well, I've had my Savannah Monitor for about a month now,
> and I have realized that his droppings smell much worse/stronger
> than those of my iguana.  Is this normal?  With just the iguana,

This is the case with my iguana and Savannah as well.  I believe
it's normal; De Vosjoli makes a reference to the strong odor of
monitor droppings.

It's probably related to diet as much as anything.  Do you have a
large water dish for the monitor?  Mine always dumps in his dish
while he's soaking, and that certainly seems to reduce the odor.
Does make him smell a bit, though, until his next soak.

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From: philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara)
Subject: Re: Kingsnake comments, anyone?
Date: 06 Oct 92 00:04:17 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Oct5.155925.10214@oakhill.sps.mot.com> stevet@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Steve Turner) writes:
>
>I recall an interesting incident when I was visiting a herp breeder.
>He had been handling lots of snakes, showing us his collection.  Then
>he put his hand into the kingsnake cage, containing about 6 kingsnakes.
>They immediately went into a feeding frenzy from the scent, and coiled
>around each other (and his hand).  He had to manually uncoil the snakes
>from each other and let them calm down...
>

     He had six king snakes in the same cage?  Isn't that a bit
dangerous?

				-Phil
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Note:  Microsoft doesn't even _know_ that these are my opinions. So there.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
From: hall@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Michael Hall)
Subject: Re: Free Range Geckos
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:00:13 GMT

In article <1a7mpeINNjjf@agate.berkeley.edu> aok@copernicus.berkeley.edu (Alan Kamas) writes:
>I'm seriously considering buying a gecko and letting it roam freely in
>my apartment.  I have a few concerns that perhaps someone in this group
>could answer:

Since no reptile people answered, you'll have to take what you can
get from me, an amphibian person, who did once have a western fence
lizard that escaped and lived for a long time in my house before
being recaptured on the sunny side of some curtains...

>1) Even though I live in California, it still gets cold in the winter.  My
>   apartment could drop to the low 50's for days at a time.  Can a gecko
>   survive this?

I think so, but of course you should supply a heating pad and/or hot light
(plus UV), on at all times, as well as water.  For water, some geckos prefer
to lick up dew drops, so you might have to mist down one of your nontoxic
house plants every night.

>2) Can a Gecko damage an apartment?  Will he gnaw on curtains, CDs, 
>   clothers, or funiture?  Does anyone have experience with this?

A gecko is a reptile, not a rodent.  A gecko won't gnaw.  Now as for
droppings, that's another matter, and I don't know how messy that is.

>3) I keep a fairly clean house.  Would there be enough bugs for a gecko
>   to eat?  Would I have to set up a feeding area for him?

Your gecko would probably starve without supplementary food.  You could
set up a feeding area, where the gecko could get in and out but the
insects couldn't.  In my apartment, there are enough escaped crickets from
feeding my frogs to support a free range gecko, so I'm somewhat interested
myself...

>4) What if he escapes?  I wouldn't want to be responsible for unleasing
>   yet another non native species into the environment.  Would this be
>   a problem?

Uh, I dunno.  The winter might kill it.

>5) With so many Geckos to choose from, I'd like to get one that's hardy,
>   inexpensive, and that makes the neat Glecko clucking (ticking?) noises.
>   Any suggestions?

The Tokay Gecko is the one famous for making clucking noises and having
the disposition of a pit bull.  I wouldn't be surprised if it went for
your jugular in your sleep :-)  Well, seriously, most people say that
once you release your gecko, you'll never see it again, and the only
way you'll know that it's alive is that you'll occasionally hear those
clucking noises.

One thing to be concerned about is poisoning from insecticides.  The gecko
will eat cockroaches and other insects that have wandered into your
apartment after being exposed to poisons in other apartments.

-- 
Michael Hall            \ "Another round?  Another round?"
NASA Ames Research Center\ - anonymous dealer at anonymous casino
hall@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov \

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From: haecky@tss.com (Valerie Haecky)
Subject: I am back! ... and much, much more!
Reply-To: haecky@tss.com (Valerie Haecky)
Organization: Teknekron Software Systems. Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:12:53 GMT


Looks like I am back alive !


Kyle: I am at haecky@tss.com
Don: I am alive! Thanks for all the postings

I got a beautiful cage made for a beautiful price by AMPRO Plastics in
  Santa Clara. (Ask for Patrick, and ask him about his iguana).

Pete: I landed your resume here. They have no specific openings
      right noe, but you are on file, and I keep my ears open.
      I'll send one to Sun, as soon as I find out, to whom.

Lisa: Hi there! How are your water dragons ?

Obligatory question: What is the Calcium:Phosphor ratio of Tofu ? My
    turtle loves the stuff.

Obligatory story: I got bitten! (Hey, that's a first). I wanted to
    take a mouse away from under Curly's nose (don't ask me why), and
    she considered that rude. So, I finally got to see the inside of her mouth.
    Five minutes later, the same snakey (sp ?) begged for more petting ..


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From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: R.I.P. baby anole
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:23:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Oct6.152304.16342
Organization: AI Program, University of Georgia, Athens

In article <bzandrew.020z@bbs1984.chi.il.us> bzandrew@bbs1984.chi.il.us (Bill Zandrew) writes:
>Bummer!  That's about the same success I had also.  A couple of months!

But his father was with us in captivity for slightly over 5 years, and
was at least a year old when we got him.  

Bummer indeed.  All because bacteria got into my fruit fly cultures, making
them slimy and not good for flies.  I'm gradually reviving the fruit fly
farm, using a *new* Gatorade bottle for each culture.  The bottles are cheap
and abundant and have never had flies (nor fly diseases) in them before.
The bacterial contamination is quickly dying out and soon I'll have cultures
completely free of it.

-- 
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:- Artificial Intelligence Programs       phone 706 542-0359
:- The University of Georgia                fax 706 542-0349
:- Athens, Georgia 30602 U.S.A.          amateur radio N4TMI
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
From: datri@egsner.cirr.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Newborn feeding
Organization: Central Iowa (Model) Railroad, Dallas, Tx.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:51:49 GMT

As I was afraid of, my newborn Haitian/Fischer's Boa hasn't eaten yet.
How long can a newborn go without external food before things get critical?

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From: mucds@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Corey D. Stinson)
Subject: Re: Squirrels?
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:05:18 GMT

   We've raised three baby squirells so far.  All found before their
eyes had opened.  The first two were red squirells (more commonlyh seen
around communities, etc) and were excellent pets.  The third was a gray
squirell and was also a good pet but was a little rougher and bit
occasionally.  I wouldn't recommend a gray squirell as a pet for smaller
children or those who do not handle carefully.  Eventually all squirells
need to have either very large cage to run in or constant attention...
we have always turned all ours loose in the wild and I don't know
whether they are able to survive or not altho we suspect they can
without problems.
From: jimoates@panix.com (Jim Oates)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Fundraising For Animal Shelters
Summary: How to Raise Money For Non-Profit Animal Shelters
Keywords: Fundraising
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:37:20 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC


Hello:

I am the Board Member and Corporate Secretary of an not-for-profit
animal shelter in Northern New Jersey.

Our shelter, which has been in operation for over 20 years, and which
survives entirely on private contributions, is planning a facility
expansion:  The expansion will almost double the size of the shelter,
and will approximately cost $125,000.

My questions:  Is there anyone out there that can help point me in the
direction of private organizations, governmental agencies, or any
other organization that is interested in providing funds for such
endeavors.

I understand that money does not grow on trees, but I need a place
to start.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Jim Oates

E-Mail

jimoates@panix.com


-- 
Admit Nothing
Blame Everyone
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From: boisvert@yaya.WPI.EDU (Brian Richard Boisvert)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Iguana owners
Date: 4 Oct 1992 19:11:22 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: yaya.wpi.edu

	I would be interested in contacting any iguana owners out there.
I have a few questions, but the most important is what inexpensive ways
can be used to heat an aquarium home.  Contact me via email.  Thanks.

-- 
Brian R. Boisvert    Worcester Polytechnic Institute    boisvert@wpi.wpi.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: rns@af2.mlb.semi.harris.com (Renee Sumperl)
Subject: Inputs needed on armadillos and opossums
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 11:24:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL

 I recently committed myself to help a vet raise some baby possums and
 armadillos.
 Anyone out in net land have any experience with these two?


                                           Thanks,
                                            Renee
From: ccmlh@buitc.bu.edu (Mark Hayes)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Pigs- Why are they the perfect pet?
Date: 28 Sep 92 02:33:02 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In case there are any potbellied pig loving Macintosh users out there,
I have written a program called "SimPiglet" that uses digitized sounds
of a PBP to simulate one in any of five separate moods (from "idle"
to "hysterical"). It's available via anonymous FTP from
sumex-aim.stanford.edu as /info-mac/game/sim-piglet-1.1.

Sorry, but I just couldn't resist the opportunity for a plug here!

Mark
From: chajek@qa1.WichitaKS.NCR.COM (chajek)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: PARAKEETS
Keywords: ESCAPED PARAKEETS
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:15:39 GMT
Reply-To: chajek@qa1.WichitaKS.NCR.COM ()
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR Corporation, Wichita KS

This is in response to Karen who knows that there are wild parakeets
in the New England states.

They are most likely escaped parakeets.  They will most likely die
in the harsh winter months - they are a tropical bird.  In states
such as southern California, Florida, and parts of Arizona, flocks
of parrots have been spotted.  These are undoubtedly escaped birds
who have been making it in the wild because of the warm climate of
these few states.  The only concern here is interbreeding in very
small flocks.  The same is not true in states that experience cold
harsh winters, such as the New England states, up north, and the
midwest.  I live in Kansas and a parakeet outside would be dead
probably by the end of October here.

Try to catch it if you can - good luck!  You'll probably never
get close enough with a net.  I've heard a good trick for catching
escaped birds that you can try.  Don't do this on a cold evening
though.

Get a garden hose and take to the tree you see them perched in.  Spray 
the bird with water until it is literally drenched - it will be
hard for the bird to fly, but more than likely it will try to
fly and because of the water weight, will just glide down to the
ground where it can be easily picked up. 

Let us know if you get the bird!
From: mstrange@alfred.carleton.ca (N E N Strangelove)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Rabbits and growling
Date: 3 Oct 92 14:33:32 GMT
Organization: Carleton University

Has anyone ever experienced their rabbit growling and hissing?
Yesterday I was vacuuming and Balrey attacked the vacuum, hissing and
growling. She wouldn't stop so I took the vacuum away. I was certainly
surprised to find such attacking behaviour.

Natalie
From: Vincent@garnet (Vincent Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Looking for puppy ***DALMATIAN***
Followup-To: rec.pets
Date: 1 Oct 1992 03:40:23 GMT
Organization: WSSG
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tmf2mac20.berkeley.edu

In article <dennice-160992140708@bainbridge.slac.stanford.edu>,
dennice@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu (Dennice) wrote:
> 
> I DON'T NEED IT NOW, BUT IN ABOUT 5 MO. I WILL.   I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE MY
> FIANCE A PUPPY DALMATIAN.  IF YOU KNOW OF ANY BREEDERS, OR ANYONE THAT IS
> GOING TO HAVE PUPPIES PLEASE LET ME KNOW.   THANXS    (415) 926-2377 DAY.  
> (408) 729-7305 EVENING.

With that in mind please give me a call if there are more than that in the
litter. I want one too. 510-841-4942,
From: Jim_Sollows@mindlink.bc.ca (Jim Sollows)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Rabbits and growling
Date: 4 Oct 92 01:22:35 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

>Has anyone ever experienced their rabbit growling and hissing?
>Yesterday I was vacuuming and Balrey attacked the vacuum, hissing and
>growling. She wouldn't stop so I took the vacuum away. I was certainly
>surprised to find such attacking behaviour.

Our lovable affectionate little bun has a Dr, Jeckle side as well. If she
dosn't like something she will let out a growl.  She also make the familiar
purring noise when she does her circling act. Sometimes when she plays with
her chew toys she gets carried away and lets out the occasional growl. We
have a very similar problem when we try to vacuum under her favorite chair.

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From: userDHAL@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA (David Halliwell)
Subject: Re: Beluga Whales Die at Shadd Aquarium in Chicago, Ill
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:18:08 GMT

chris@mks.com (Chris Retterath) writes:
>I've heard the whales in question are by no means threatened -- are you
>protesting their slaughter by Inuit as well, or is it only bad if a 'white'
>takes a whale? Is the 'Northern wilderness' threatened by this
>tiny loss?

    The beluga whale population in the Churchill area is fairly large.
There are currently no worries about endagering this population. Belugas
in other locations (e.g. St. Lawrence River) *are* endangered.

    In the Churchill area, the local native population does the live
captures for aquariums. I can't remember if it is the Inuit or Indian
groups. (Both live in the area.) I don't think that the local population
does much hunting of belugas for food.


Dave Halliwell
Department of Geography
University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta
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From: jeffp@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Jeff Parke)
Subject: Breeding Pot Bellied Pigs?
Originator: jeffp@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 23:43:33 GMT

I am posting this for a young man (age = 9, I believe) who has been searching
for information about breeding pot bellied pigs on America-On-Line.  He
hasn't met anyone there with breeding experience.

If anyone here has been involved with this, or can recommend any good
literature or other information, would you please send him email?

His name is Keith and his email address is KeithK5767@aol.com

BTW, I have already written him about the following sources...

'Mini Pet Pigs-  Home Veterinary & Care by John Connelly.  You can order it from
C.J. Enterprises, PO Box 16397, Portland, Oregon 97233.  It is supposed to have
good information about breeding.  Also,  'Pot-bellied Pet Pigs-Mini-pig  Care
and Training' by Kayla Mull can be ordered from All Publishing, 10951 Meads Ave,
Box B, Orange, CA 92669

There is also an article in one of the veterinary journals:

Bradford, James R. "Caring for potbellied pigs," Veterinary Medicine
86(12):1173-1181, December 1991.

Thanks,

-Jeff
---------------------
Jeff Parke <jeffp@vetmed.wsu.edu>
also:   jeffp@WSUVM1.bitnet     CIS: 71511,1512    AOL: JeffParke
Washington State University College of Veterinary Medicine class of 1994
Pullman, WA  99164-7012
From: curtiss@master.CNA.TEK.COM (Curtis Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Cockatiles (sp?)
Summary: stress
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:13:47 GMT
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.

In article <1992Sep28.150920.22345@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>, liana@nexus.yorku.ca (Liana Becker) writes:
> Hi,
> 
> The problem is that he is pulling out his feathers and
> we are not sure why.   I do know that he was given to my parents by a 
> previous owner and I thought that he could be reacting to stress. 

Birds particularly hookbills will pluck themselves or other birds 
when under stress.  They are particularly stressed when they have
been moved and/or have a new owner.  If they are handled gently
by their new owners they will usually stop after they get to know 
their new family.

My wife (who owns a pet store) has had this problem with some of 
the birds through the store.  We will often bring the animal home
until it calms down.  A pet store can be a stressful environment
for an animal, especially if it was raised were it did not get
extensive interactions with people.  We give the 
bird lots of attention and patience.  There are also special
vitamin and feeds you can get through your local pet store to 
help plucking birds.  

Some birds seem to have a cronic problem with feather pulling 
and we cannot return them to the store.  These we find homes 
for where they can get the attention and care they need without 
having to go through the store.

Curtis Smith
   curtiss@master.cna.tek.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: kenny@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: Finding a Bunny Vet
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:41:21 GMT

In article <BvnLKL.B3G@world.std.com>, marty@world.std.com (Marty M HaleEvans) writes:
> Hi, Ilana -- Thanks for sharing your experiences with Darwin. I'm glad 
> everything worked out okay!
> 
> I posted about this before, but I didn't get much response (and, stupidly,
> I lost the little I got). It seems like your tale is a good occasion to 
> remember how difficult it is to find a decent vet for a rabbit. I need to find
> one for mine, to do a neutering (and just for general purposes). Could anybody
> who knows of a good place to get a reference in the Boston area post it? For 
> example, someone posted the number for a clinic in the midwest who specializes
> in rabbits and will give references. I didn't find a number for the House
> Rabbit Society in the book -- do they do references? Also, some good questions
> to ask prospective vets would help, too.
> 
> I'm sorry if this seems tedious, but it would really help me, and I also think
> it's a good thing to go over again for new people. Getting a qualified vet is
> tricky for rabbit owners, and so important! Thanks for your help.
> 


The best way I've found is to call up the vet and ask if there's anyone on staff
who is good with rabbits.  If I get put on hold or someone says, "Well, sure,
so and so can take a look at him",  I hang up.  When I called my current vet's
office and asked this question, the response was "Oh, sure, Dr. --- is very good
with rabbits".  And he is.

Debbie
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