HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: 3rd party disks & /etc/mtab ..raw
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 02:54:50 GMT

In <34036@adm.brl.mil> tkirkman@bardeen.physics.csbsju.edu (Tom Kirkman) writes:


| If I cat my /etc/mtab, I get:
| 3# cat /etc/mtab
| /dev/root / efs rw,raw=/dev/rroot 0 0
| /dev/usr /usr efs rw,raw=/dev/rusr 0 0
| /debug /debug dbg rw 0 0
| tiny.computing:/dua2/tiny /usr/tiny nfs rw,bg,hard,intr,dev=1200 0 0
| /dev/dsk/dks0d5s6 /people2 efs rw,raw=/dev/dsk/dks0d5s6,fsck,noquota 0 0
| /dev/dsk/dks0d5s0 /tftpboot2 efs rw,raw=/dev/dsk/dks0d5s0,fsck,noquota 0 0
| 
| where /dev/root & /dev/usr are a SGI disk & /dev/dsk/dks0d5 is a 3rd
| party disk.  The 3rd party disk was mounted with the vadmin GUI.
| Note the raw= part: for the SGI disk it points to the rdsk device
| while the 3rd party raw= part points to the dsk device...

It won't hurt anything, but it will slow down fsck quite a bit.

I'd hand edit /etc/fstab so the raw devices are rdsk.  I've never
heard this bug reported for the disk tool before, but that doesn't
mean a whole lot; most people would probably not notice.
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: senseman@ricky.brainlab.utsa.edu (David M. Senseman)
Subject: Re: Increased Prices for Memory
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:54:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.180813.11701@athena.mit.edu> ertas@athena.mit.edu (Mehmet D Ertas) writes:
>In article <1992Nov8.133738.1@alien.gici.com>, laut@alien.gici.com (Bill Laut) writes:
>|> In article <1992Nov5.195012.5289@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, senseman@ricky.brainlab.utsa.edu (David M. Senseman) writes:
>|> > Now my two favorite things, French white wine and Koran RAM,
>|> > are going to be out of my price range :-(
>|> At the risk of being called a "lout" (:-), I would suggest a change to good
>|> German white wines, such as a Reisling Auslese, or a Kabinett.  Now, with
>
>I agree on the unique chills of German Wine, but since Germany is also an EC
>member, same price hikes there as well :-(

My understanding is that the pending US trade sanctions are directed towrds
France and not the whole of the EEC -- unless the EEC decides to side with 
France in the dispute. 

In any case, I'm glad to see people are a passionately interested in vino
as moi, but perhaps there's a better place to discuss these matters?

-- 
David M. Senseman, Ph.D.     | A man who has never gone to school may steal 
(senseman@lonestar.utsa.edu) | from a freight car; but if he has a university
Division of Life Sciences    | education, he may steal the whole railroad.
UT San Antonio               |             Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919)
From: sgi.com!pdi!shoshana@BRL.MIL (Shoshana Abrass)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Login failure
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:04:56 GMT


  In <9211101605.AA09968@wankle>, Bret Clark (bclark@wankle.ctron.com) writes:

>>I have a user who cannot log in directly to one of our Iris 4Ds
>>running 4.0.1.  He tries, the screen blanks for a moment, and then
>>he's back at the login menu.  (Even with no password, he fails.)
>
> I have just starting seeing the problem Iris INDIGO. It appears to be with the
> program pandora. I have not been able to track it down. .login and .chsrc has 
> nothing to do with the problem. The only solution I have been able to find is 
> to disable visual login under /etc/config/visuallogin or to reformat and reload
> the OS (Not a great fix).

  You don't mention if you're having the problem with one user, or all?

  Try looking at the file /usr/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-errors. If the xdm is unable to
  run the window manager, it should put an error in here.

  -shoshana
   shoshana@pdi.com
   Shoshana Abrass
   Pacific Data Images, Sunnyvale, CA
From: chris@artcom.de (Christian Hoefig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: crimson cannot halt/reboot
Summary: crimson fails to execute /etc/init x
Date: 10 Nov 92 11:53:33 GMT
Organization: ART+COM e.V., Berlin, Germany

IRIX 4.0.5, SGI crimson, 
kaufhof 84_> uname -a
IRIX kaufhof 4.0.4 03241739 IP17

Shutdown and reboot don't work.

Executing shutdown works only to the point, where 
/etc/init 0 is called. this should start /etc/rc0, which
completes the shutdown, basically per killall.
Executing /etc/rc0 "by hand" works, but /etc/init 0
simply seems to do nothing. No hints in system log files.
exit status of /etc/init 0 is 0. 

Even after reinstalling IRIX, the effect remained. Of course,
/etc/reboot won't do either. We talked to our SGI man, 
said he never heard of such a thing before.

Any ideasm ? We will reformat the disk and reinstall, if 
nothing else works.
-- 
Christian Hoefig	       | my phone: +49 30 39 55 719		+
computer consultant 	       | my fax:   +49 30 39 57 713		+
Art+Com e.V.: chris@artcom.de  | my internet: chris@lilli.in-berlin.de  +
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: jcreight@us.oracle.com (Jonathan Creighton)
Subject: What does /usr/adm/klogpp do?
Keywords: syslog
Reply-To: jcreight@us.oracle.com
Organization: Oracle Corp
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 09:56:45 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

The default /etc/syslog.conf in Irix 4.0.1 pipes most kernel messages
through a utility /usr/adm/klogpp.  What does this program do?   Is
it invoked once for each message?

  Just curious,
      JC

-- 

Jonathan Creighton, Oracle Corp.   
jcreight@us.oracle.com or uunet!oracle!jcreight or (415) 506-6404
These are my opinions, not Oracle's.  I speak only for myself.
From: beyer@bflsgu.fl.bs.dlr.de (R. Beyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: check
Date: 3 Nov 92 12:10:09 GMT


Anyone on the net ?

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Flight Guidance, Flughafen, D-3300 Braunschweig, Fed. Rep. of Germany
	  Phone: 0049-531-395-2530  Fax: 0049-531-395-2550
Internet: beyer@bflsgu.fl.bs.dlr.de (EARN/BITNET: fl17@dlrvmbs.bitnet) 
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From: jnaft@hamlet.umd.edu (Joseph Naft)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Who has GL?
Date: 6 Nov 92 07:19:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

n article <16479@umd5.umd.edu>, I write:
|>
|> I want to write portable 3D graphics programs in C++.  Using PHIGS is one
|> option.  How about GL?  Is it available on Suns, HPs, RS6000s?  By whom?
|> Any info would be appreciated.  Please respond by email.
|>

Here is a summary of the responses...

PHIGS was critisized for not having "immediate mode" graphics and for being
not being very portable.

HOOPS from Ithaca Software was recommended over PHIGS for its ease of use and
reduced source code size.  It was also praised for supporting lots of unix
platforms, taking advantage of special graphics hardware, and having an
advanced rendering package available which gives more control over lighting
models and supports radiosity and ray tracing.

Ithaca Software
1301 Marina Village Parkway
Alameda, CA  94501
Phone: (510)523-5900
FAX  : (510)523-2880

Nth Graphics' "Nth PortableGL" supports GL on SPARCs (HP version is in "late
beta"). According to Nth's brochure "NPGL(tm) for SPARC is compatible with
IRIS GL 4.0 (2) from SGI", and "Nth PortableGL is available now, and it does
not require any modifications to the application's source code. A recompiled
SGI application will run on any standard or enhanced SPARCstation with the Nth
PortableGL software."
                           Nth GRAPHICS
                1908-A Kramer Lane, Austin, TX 78758
         512-832-1944  800-624-7552  FAX 512-832-5954
                        email:npgl@nth.com


Dupont Pixel Systems offers IRIS GL support for SPARC.  1-800-542-1484.

IBM supports IRIS GL on the RS/6000 (reportedly version 3.3).

Next year OpenGL should be available.  It has been licensed to DEC, IBM,
Microsoft, and Nth graphics (which supports HP, SUN), Dupont Pixel
(Supports SUN), and a host of other companies (so far 26 licensees).

Thanks very much to all those who responded.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Stalking the Ultimate Workstation?
From: laut@alien.gici.com (Bill Laut)
Date: 9 Nov 92 03:24:33 EDT
 <1d8ek2INNfu@werple.apana.org.au> <antkasx.720907002@gsusgi1.gsu.edu>
Organization: Gull Island Consultants, Inc.

In article <antkasx.720907002@gsusgi1.gsu.edu>, antkasx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Ken A. Sturrock) writes:
> Regarding the Indigo's "poor rating" by Byte.
> 
> [...]
>
> Give the Indigo some time ( I know, painful words for SGI ). It is a
> fantastic little box and eventually there will be some programs that do
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> the machine justice.
> 

I couldn't agree with you more. 

<sigh>  The only thing that I *wish* could be done is a means of lowering
its price tag.  My idea of an Indigo has the R4000 chip set, 80mb of memory,
a couple of 1.5gb disks, and the GR2-Elan graphics options, and carries a
$40,000 price tag.  Ouch!  And I didn't even include the Sony Trinitron
monitor yet...


-- 
Bill Laut			Internet:  laut@alien.gici.com
Gull Island Consultants, Inc.	Phone:     (616) 780-3321
Muskegon, MI  49440		>> "Usual disclaimers, apply within" <<

"Your majesty, I have a message from God for you."	-- Judges 3:20
From: mark@ginger.biophys.upenn.edu (Mark Elliott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: HP DeskWriter on an Indigo ???
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:40:37 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	I have an HP DeskWriter C color printer which I would love to use on my
Iris Indigo. I use an application which can generate graphics files in PostScript
or HPGL. The DeskWriter understands Macintosh's QuickDraw page description format.

	Does anyone know of a filter program which would help me?



Mark Elliott                       |     
Dept of Radiology                  |     Voice: (215) 898-9357
University of Pennsylvania         |     FAX  : (215) 573-2113
Philadelphia, PA 19104 USA         |     Email: mark@ginger.biophys.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: jorgec@serss0 (Jorge Castellano)
Subject: Irix 5.0
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:23:04 GMT




I remember somebody mentioning that Irix 5.0 would be released before the end
of 1992. Anybody know anything about this? Will it be based on SVR4? If I purchased an Indigo now, would I be able to upgrade to 5.0 for free??

thanks

-Jorge
From: mct@mel.dbce.csiro.au (Mark Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: SLIP AND PC's
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:12:00 GMT
Organization: CSIRO, Div. Building Constr. and Eng'ing, Melb., Australia

Can anyone tell me whether I can connect a PC to a PI4D/35 or INDIGO
using slip from (sun) PCNFS on the PC and IRIX slip on the 4d/35?

thanks, mark thompson, CSIRO Melbourne.
From: vulture@imperial.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: changing icon title dynamically
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:32:45 GMT
Reply-To: cmaae47@imperial.ac.uk
Organization: Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine

In article <1drjndINNn25@fido.asd.sgi.com>, karlton@fudge.asd.sgi.com (Phil Karlton) writes:
- 
- In article <1992Nov11.175635.28531@tamsun.tamu.edu>,
- 	vamsee@bioiris.tamu.edu writes:
- > Is there someway to change the icon title dynamically for xwsh ?
.....

- Check the xwsh man page. Use a '3' instead of a '1' in the escape
- sequence. Something like
- 
- 		echo -n "\033P3.y"${host}"\033\\"
- 

or you could try this script (I have it as /usr/bin/cursor, as I used it first
to set the cursor colour. there is no man page, but it has some help with it.

                                      Thomas

---8<--- cut here ----- do not fold, twist, or spindle ----- cut here --->8---
#!/bin/ksh
#
#  cursor - set cursor parameter
#

if test u = "u$2" -a ! help = "$1"
   then
   string=$(colorview)
   else
   string="$2"
   fi

case $1 in
    (back)          print -n "\033P5.y"$string"\033\\";;
    (bold)          print -n "\033P11.y"$string"\033\\";;
    (colour)        print -n "\033P9.y"$string"\033\\";;
    (color)         print -n "\033P9.y"$string"\033\\";;
    (fore)          print -n "\033P4.y"$string"\033\\";;
    (half)          print -n "\033P10.y"$string"\033\\";;
    (icon)          print -n "\033P3.y"$string"\033\\";;
    (name)          print -n "\033P1.y"$string"\033\\";;
    (tcol)          print -n "\033P8.y"$string"\033\\";;
    (text)          print -n "\033P4.y"$string"\033\\";;
    (xback)         print -n "\033P7.y"$string"\033\\";;
    (xfore)         print -n "\033P6.y"$string"\033\\";;
    (*)             cat <<- END

           $0 - set various cursor and text colours in winterm
           Syntax: $0 mnemonic value

           Mnemonic  Value   Function
           ---------------------------------------------------------
           back      colour  set background colour
           bold      colour  set colour of bold background
           colour    colour  set colour of the text cursor
           half      colour  set colour of half intensity background
           icon      name    set name displayed in icon
           name      name    set name as displayed in title bar
           tcol      colour  set colour of text under the cursor
           text      colour  set foreground text colour
           xback     colour  set colour of selection background
           xfore     colour  set colour of selection text colour

END
esac
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.ultrix,comp.sys.sun.admin
From: vulture@imperial.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau)
Subject: How to guarantee virtual memory to the console user ?
Followup-To: comp.unix.admin
Keywords: Virtual memory, console user
Reply-To: cmaae47@imperial.ac.uk
Organization: Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 13:21:26 GMT

Hello,

Some people here have asked me if it is possible to guarantee a certain
amount of virtual memory for a particular user. Our problem is that
we want to run background jobs on workstations, but avoid getting the
X-server killed for lack of memory.

I checked the kernel configuration, but that only gives some ways to
control RSS hogs and the control of available memory.

I know we can start killing processes we don't like the look of, or
killing users when they submit such processes, but we would like a
kinder, gentler method of ensuring some virtual memory for whoever
is using the console. One of the problems with killing processes is
identifying them, tty ports have lost their usefulness since separate
xterms allocate separate tty's.

The ideal solution would be if some virtual memory could be prededicated
(as opposed to allocated) to the children of some process. This would be
similar to reaper, which finds the children of the xdm-login even if the
PID-chain has been broken.

Any thoughts, problems (or solutions !) would be greatly appreciated.
                                   
                                   Thomas

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From: howardl@koosh.asd.sgi.com (Howard Look)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Explorer and Inventor file formats?
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:47:13 GMT
Reply-To: howardl@koosh.asd.sgi.com (Howard Look)
Distribution: na
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA, USA

In article <1992Nov9.042614.11719@news2.cis.umn.edu>,
slevy@noneuclid.geom.umn.edu (Stuart Levy) writes:
|> Is documentation available for the Explorer and Inventor file formats?
|> 
|> In particular, I'm hoping to find out about Explorer's Pyramid and
|> Inventor's geometric data formats, in enough detail to make it possible
|> to produce code to read and write reasonable subsets of them.  I've hunted
|> through our copies of Explorer 1.0 and Inventor (EOE) 1.0 to no avail.
|> It's easy to generate sample data files and guess, but it'd be nice to
|> look at something definitive if possible.

Currently, the only places the Inventor file format is completely
documented are in the include files and in the man pages, both of which
you get when you buy the Inventor development kit.

However, if you haven't yet bought Inventor :), we will be releasing a
document "real soon now" that formally describes the file format. Our
tech writer is putting the final touches on it now. I would expect to
see it within a couple of weeks both here and ftp-able from sgi.com.

|> Maybe a couple of meta-questions are appropriate: How stable are these
|> file formats likely to be in future products?  [Clearly no promises
expected.]
|> Are they defined primarily by the source code to their library routines
|> (and so not a suitable subject for documentation)?
|> 
|>     Stuart Levy

The Inventor file format will always be upward compatible either
directly, or through a simple conversion process. The format currently
has a header string identifying the version of the file format.

For users of Explorer 1.0 and Inventor 1.0, there is a small program,
/usr/sbin/so2iv, which coverts from Explorer 1.0 .so files to Inventor
1.0 .iv files. Explorer 1.0 used a pre-Inventor-1.0 version of the file
format. Future releases of Explorer use the Inventor 1.0 (or later)
version of the file format.

Hope that makes sense.
Howard

Howard Look   Silicon Graphics   howardl@sgi.com   (415) 390-1780
..__   One of these :) after being run over by one of these O-O
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: kantor@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ronald M. Kantor)
Subject: third party disks for SGI 4d70/gt
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 01:59:57 GMT

Hi, we're looking for another disk drive for our 4D70 and would like
the names of some vendors which support the odd cabling on the backs of 
our IRIS.  If anyone could  tell me I would greatly appreciate it.

Thank you,
Ron Kantor
kantor@drizzle.stanford.edu
From: ce095@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey Scott Traigle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: psview?
Date: 13 Nov 1992 20:01:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ce095@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey Scott Traigle)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


We are trying to get an upgrade to a PD software package running
properly on an SGI machine. It requires the program psview and
says in the source that it is an SGI program. What I need to
know is where to get it. Is it in the OS distribution or is
it in some extra package? Your help is appreciated.
From: markov@cs.ruu.nl (Mark Overmars)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: *** New Release FORMS LIBRARY ***
Keywords: GUI, Forms Library
Date: 8 Nov 92 15:20:06 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science


                              FORM LIBRARY
                              ============

Version 2.1

I am happy to announce the release of version 2.1 of the forms library, a
public domain package for the design of interaction forms. Thanks
to the comments of many of you it has been improved further. Version 2.1
is almost fully compatible with version 2.0. Only if you have complicated
free objects you might have some slight problems. Read the file Important
about possible problems.

The main changes with respect to version 2.0 are:

- Extended font handling, allowing for more font styles and sizes.
- Much better memory management, avoiding memory leaks and allowing
  e.g for arbitrary sized labels, input fields, etc.
- Works now in distributed mode with dgl.
- Forms can be iconified without freezing the application.
- Multiline and secret input fields.
- Alignment routines added to the Form Designer.
- Enhanced menu object class.
- Objects can temporarily be deactivated.
- Many errors corrected (e.g. in event handling, input focus, etc.).

All changes can be found in the file Changes.

The best way to get the library is via anonymous ftp in our archive at
ftp.cs.ruu.nl (131.211.80.17) (if you can't do this, mail me).

In the directory SGI you find a directory FORMS that contains all stuff
related to the Forms Library. See the file INDEX there for details. The
package itself is contained in the file forms2.1.tar.Z.
 Get it (in binary mode) and type

uncompress forms2.1.tar.Z
tar xvof forms2.1.tar

and you get a directory forms_library. It contains the library, 42 demo's
and 120 pages of LaTeX documentation. For those who do not
have LaTeX, the postscript version of the doc can be found in the file
forms2.1.ps.Z in the same archive.

Please make sure that after installing the library you recompile everything
(relinking is not enough). Also take care that you use the new forms.h file
and not the old one.

Good luck with it. Please report any bugs, questions, extensions, etc. to
markov@cs.ruu.nl.

Mark Overmars
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi