From: franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: The March in D.C.
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:34:35 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

In <1992Apr8.002621.19380@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kcochran@isis.cs.du.edu (Keith A. Cochran) writes:

>In article <1992Apr7.214014.10886@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
>[Deleted:  Steve whines about how badly he's getting flamed, how much it hurts
>to have his "logic" flaws pointed out to him.  He tries to paint a picture of
>us mean old pro-choicers ganging up on the pro-lifers].
   How flattering of you Keith... Let's see if your post gets any
better...
[
>Gee, Steve, if the pro-life movement is just begging to work with everybody,
>then why do the pro-lifers in this group flame the other pro-lifers?
   For every flame I have posted, I have begged at least twice for
reconciliation or an effort towards it at least. You seem to do
nothing of the sort. Who's the unbending party in this battle? 

>Now, (1)If you're going to play with fire, you're going to get your fingers
>burned.  It's sad, but it's true.
   No, if you're going to play with ignorant unbending fools, you're going
to get your newsnet account flamed... THAT is sad but true...

>kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith A. Cochran)) have this funny feeling that if we
>let you "pro-lifers" get rid of a woman's rights just because she's pregnant,
>the next thing you might decide to do is get rid of homosexual's rights just
>because we're not popping out those children like "normal" people are.  Or you
>might decide that we have to get rid of the rights of the American Indians,
>because they're not "truly" white.
   Well, this deserves flames, but I will hold back and deal with this
post civilly. The tactics of pro-choice are to through as many analogies
and concepts at you as they can, hoping some of them you can't answer.
I'm used to this.
   Homosexuals are not frowned upon in the Catholic church. There is nothing
wrong with being a homosexual, but to practice homosexuality IS wrong.
You shall not share relations with another man (or woman as the case
may be). Just as the church believes this, you cannot practice or
exercise heterosexuality until you get married. Homosexuals are welcomed
into the Catholic church, but they must exercise discipline and realize that
they must refrain from exercising that which feels natural to them. I know
this will piss you off royally, but it is true. If you are homosexual and
don't agree with this practice then you are free to worship elsewhere.
We have no justification to exercise this legally. 
   Also, you really feel you can get away with alot don't you? Does it
make you feel safe that you're thousands of miles away from me doesn't it?
Wow, I would be awfully surprised if you could call me racist to my
face. I have nothing against, and only respect for the Native Americans
and for you to insinuate otherwise is ludicrous, offensive, and otherwise
typical of your argument. As you already know, the Catholic/Christian faith
tells us that all men/women/children/unborn are equal, and to judge 
a man by his color is as silly as judging a book by it's cover, or a pro-choice
by his posts. We are also taught to lover our neighbor (the american indian,
the unborn child) as ourself. In fact, that even includes you Keith...

>(3)If, as you stated before you're not judging people, how the hell do you
>explain the fact that you feel you're more qualified to tell a woman what to
>do with her body then she is?
   I am not judging people. As I have said earlier, only GOD may judge,
and he has already done that through his message in the bible. He has
told us to honor all life, conception, and the very act of sex. He has
told us to defend the weak and the innocent. And you know what? It makes sense.
Even if God didn't tell us this, I imagine I would be the same. Wasting
such a valuable resource is pathetic, and I would have thought it to be
well below us morally. 

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steve
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