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From: EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (Tony Harminc)
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Subject: Re: Red Line Story
Date: 16 Dec 92 05:47:19 GMT
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Posted on 15 Dec 1992 at 01:32:25 by Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)

>Ahhh ... the railfan's seat.  All but the newest Chicago Transit
>Authority cars have a sideways-facing seat at the front window,
>across the aisle from the motorman's compartment (US transitese for
>driver).

Toronto subways have a 'motorman' and a 'guard'.  The railfan's seat
unfortunately faces backwards, but if it's not too crowded you
can sit on the end and still get a good view to the front.  Or of
course two kids can kneel on the seat and both face forwards.

>          The newest Chicago cars have a full-width cab, because
>they're designed for one-man operation on some lightly traveled
>lines and the motorman has to be able to check the doors on either
>side of the train because some platforms are between the two tracks

The railfan's seat here flips up so that the guard can use an alternate
set of door controls hidden behind a panel next to the seat.  Where
only one or two stations have platforms on the 'wrong' side, the
guard just steps out of the cab, evicts the occupant(s) of the seat,
works the doors, and steps back.  For a longer stretch the guard will
move to the cab in the adjacent car.

>The ultimate in railfan's seats is on the Electroliners that ran
>between Milwaukee and Chicago from 1941 to 1963 ... up front, in
>each streamlined nose of the train, is a double seat facing forward.
>I had a ride on it as a kid, rode it again when the Electroliners
>were running in Philadelphia, and the view is just as good at the
>Illinois Railway Museum, where one runs on special occasions.

The Docklands Light Railway in London (and its cousins in Vancouver
and Scarborough) have a large, forward facing seat.  But then there's
no driver to get in the way.

Tony H.
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From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: alt.swedish.chef.blender.dork.dork.dork
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              18 Dec 92 19:48:51 +0000. <9212181915.AA25600@sics.se>

  Graham says:

  >It is quite simply that whoever wants to can write to words-l in any

  This is pretty good, and I see that you have a good grasp of "Scandinavian",
as befits a true Scotsman. However, "installation" should be "attitude".
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:54:33 -0600
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 2 toasts
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 Windows . . .'re . . .  for people who can't handle command lines.

I resemble that.
doris (hello, Ruth)
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: Now for something completely anal-retentiv
Originator: rita@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:55:52 GMT

	I'd just like to make clear right here and now that I have
never EVER in my entire life participated in anything even remotely
silly.  Every word I type is dedicated to all seriousness.


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rita@eff.org                                                    eff@eff.org
CIS:70007,5621                                                (617)864-0665
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From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: PSILink?

>What Rita said. If you want a buttload of rants about PSI, just let me
>know, I can supply more than you can read...
>
>-abh

Please do!  Central is thinking about using PSI as their Internet carrier using
their InterFrame network. Full-blown 56k service for 800/month.  What's the
scoop on these guys?

Chris
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Nagasaki
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I <think> that the B-29 which bombed nagasaki was Full House.

-abh
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 15 Dec 1992 05:22:40 GMT
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In a previous article, xxuucp@ATT.ATT.COM () says:

>UUCP request att!D.att98ed6f7 to mhwpa!D.att98ed6f7
>failed on system 'mhwpa'.
>Reason for failure:
>        remote system can't create temp file
>        remote file system is low on free space
>
Holy rubber balls, Batman, that dumb AT&T machine is at it again!
Somebody out to use a batgun on the poor thing and put it out of our
misery. [or maybe a backhoe?]
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From: maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu (Natalie Maynor)
Subject:  IT'S ALIVE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:28:31 GMT

UGA IS UP!!
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 13:00:04 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: alt.swedish.chef.blender.dork.dork.dork
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              18 Dec 92 23:20:23 +0000. <9212182342.AA06392@sics.se>

  Graham remarks:

  >Amazing amount of Swedish is close to Dutch and German I've
  >just discovered.

  Yes indeed. Very many Swedish words have either been borrowed from
German or share a common origin with German words. Also, the way
sentences are put together is quite similar to German, even though we
don't stack up our verbs at the end of the sentence. I have no idea how
linguists describe these similarities, but as a matter of experience,
it's often easy to translate between German and Swedish because the
sentence structure is so similar and the words are often practically
the same. But, as Karen remarked, English and Swedish are also quite
close, and I think we had occasion to observe earlier this year that
it's possible to read a lot of French without knowing a word of French.
On the other hand, when Brad writes in Polish...
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Now for something completely anal-retentiv
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>Hi Carolyn,
>
>That was a good piece of writing - about 50's to 70's children.  But, guess

Thanks!

>I'm a loner ..as I was a 40's child, born at the height of the Depression,
>into a family of utter poverty.

The 'doom and gloom' attitude that you are sometimes criticized for having
by some members of this list is understandable considering your early
environment. I've met others of your generation that were far worse than
you will ever be..... at least, you were able to appreciate rock and roll
music.... most of your generation never got passed Benny Goodman and Bing
Crosby.

>memories ... but did give me a good work ethnic ...my dad worked very hard ..
>and a desire to never cheat anyone ... my dad was very honest .. but, sadly,
>poorly equipped me with the talents to deal with people on a social level ..
>we *never* had company, parties ... and my dad hated this time of year .

Your father sounds very much like mine..... he wasn't born around 1910 by
any chance?

> Have a great weekend all!
>
>                            Peace,
>                                  Don

You too, Don!

Carolyn
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:00:50 EST
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Birthdays

Birthdays today (besides Beethoven's):
  Jane Austen 1775
  George Santayana 1863
  Noel Coward 1899:  who said "I write at high speed because boredom is
bad for my health."

Evelyn Duncan
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:16:14 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 2 toasts
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> Interesting.  I have touched a Macintosh for many years, but using
> Windows felt *very* Macintoshy to me (especially using Word, I guess...).
> In a way that OS/2 doesn't.

OS/2 felt very Macintoshy to me.  My reaction to it was the same as my
reaction to Windows -- if I wanted to fool with mice and icons, I'd have
bought a Mac.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: jthomas@netsys.com (Jim Thomas)
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Date: 16 Dec 92 03:59:49 GMT
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In article <Pine.3.03.9212141223.F21971-8100000@formby.tenet.edu> harwell@TENET.EDU (Anne Burton Harwell) writes:
>On Mon, 14 Dec 1992, Graham Toal wrote:
>
>> Very amusing Jim!  Come on, what do you *really* look like?  (And don't
>> try to kid me you're a refugee from a David Lodge novel...)
>
>Yes, Jim, some of us are <dying> to know... ;-)

Just hope you don't die once you find out. Graham can find out for
himself next time he passes through Chicago on his way to somewhere, and 
I will happily ply him with his favorite Samuel Smith to hear the oral
version of the Land-rover/wheelies incident (which is still the funniest
story I've read on words-l).
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Burke again
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:47:34 GMT
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In a previous article, torkel@SICS.SE () says:

>
>  A knowledge of racoons, surely, has very little to do with knowing
>the meaning of "coonass". I think it's interesting that you gave an
>apparently confident explanation of the meaning of the word which was
>in fact no more than a wild guess, and I suspect I might very well do

Have you ever played Balderdash?<grin>  That's a game where people make up
definitions to real words....  I did tell you right off the bat that I was
guessing.:)

>the same myself. Asking people about language is (as we have had
>occasion to remark on in the words-l past) often a tricky business. Of

That's especially true when a word has several different regional meanings.
SOmeone asked my kid sister the other day what the Mull of Kintyre is.
It was a trivia question, and the answer the asker wanted was "A Paul
McCartney song".  That wasn't what she got, though; us library rats gave
longitude and lattitude.:-) [it's the closest part of Scotland to Ireland]

>course, when I put questions to the list as a whole I have no doubt
>that full and penetrating answers will quickly be forthcoming one way
>or another. I plan to use this information to dazzle my editor with
>the depth of my research, which obviously must have taken me months
>and months (she doesn't know about the net). This way I will prevent
>her from beating me severely and invoking horrible penalty clauses.
>
Hmmm - a devious mind.  No wonder you fit in 'round here.:-)  
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From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Identification etc
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Posted on 12 Dec 1992 at 11:56:47 by ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU

>Hmmm...I thought that Americans are always told to carry their passports
>with them in a foreign country, but I just checked my passport and it
>doesn't say that.  Aren't resident aliens everywhere (including Canada
>and the US) required to carry id?  (btw, it was me who said that about
>Japan.)

It may well be wise to carry one's passport while in a foreign country.
Whether it's required by the laws of that country is another matter.

There is no law in Canada that requires anyone to carry ID of any sort.
The only time you can be required to provide ID is when you enter the
country, and even that isn't entirely clear.  A Canadian citizen has
the right to enter Canada, and the constitution says nothing about how
you might prove that you are one.

Without doubt a law that required carrying of ID would be taken all the
way to the Supreme Court.  I guess that it would be ruled unconstitutional,
though with the way the court's been acting lately anything is possible :-(

Tony H.
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Yark
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Something tells me that there was an unanticipated problem with the
plumbing re-route at UGA...

-abh
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:28:00 CST
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
 <TA0SHK1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: T-shirts

>Nothing but a words-l t, Karen?  Sounds like an ad for
>Words-l of Hollywood.

: To paraphrase Don, "Aaaaaargh, Marty!"

: Karen who is fully dressed, thank you very much!

Indeed.  But we did have a discussion some time ago about posting
au naturel.  The list angel and Dan Lester contributed interesting
stories.

Steve Karlson
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What kind of people are you, anyway?

>Torkel postiert nach Stockholm.

His posterior better be in Stockholm.  But don't knock it.

-K

-Mka
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From: lncjb@wombat.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: Re: Chilled-water @ UGA [Plus Chocolate Wafer Crumbs]
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 10:06:27 GMT

In article <168BC12BBC.BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU>, BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU writes:
>     Carolyn posted yesterday (?) that all was "green for go" for
>     the salmonbake in Portland, including dormitory accommodations
>     at Reed College ($20 per person per night).

Oh, Brad.... you are getting your 'Carols' mixed up.... but I guess that's
permissible at this time of the year. :-)  I wish I was hosting the bash in
Portland but alas, that is Carol Carmick.... I'm Down Under Carolyn (a.k.a
the Quizmaster)..... Your natural mistake makes me feel better about confusing
Evelyn and Agnes yesterday, even though my mistake was more unnatural than
yours. So has anyone confused you with Alt-Brad yet?

Carolyn
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 17 Dec 1992 06:05:10 GMT
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In a previous article, LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU () says:

>
>That's what we get for having a Government-owned facility.... although Telecom
>considers itself semi-government and rejoices in huge profits every year....

Our phone system  used to be a monopoly, usually referred to as Ma
Bell.  Now the local companies are still monopolies, but the National 
carrier has competition....[in case you haven't been reading lately]

>into the market in the last two years with it's handsets, but the only phone
>lines available still belong to Telecom, although I think they're working on
>that side of it too.... so it mightn't be too much longer before we have a
>cheaper alternative phone system..... I can only pray! :-(
>
Pray for us too!  Same prayer!:-(

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From:         ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (72
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Posted on 14 Dec 1992 at 17:49:13 by Graham Toal
>They're talking about infeasibly large sex aids, Akio.

Large yes, infeasibly no.  I just think Graham is jealous.:)

Karen
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From: maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu (Natalie Maynor)
Subject: Re: I think we're alone now....
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 13:25:35 GMT

kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey) writes:

>>One of the fears expressed when we first got the usenet connection was
>>that usenetters would "take over the list" by talking to each other at    
>>times like this.  So far, the gang here tonight doesn't look exactly
>>like outsiders, though: Karen, Brad, Bayla, Natalie.
>>--
>>   Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
>I'll take that as a compliment.
>--Aaron

Take what as a compliment?
--
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 12:31:54 EST
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      We Three Kings

It seems to me that the first line makes sense if you're using Latin
grammar patterns:  Subject, object, and verb.

Evelyn

P.S.  Where's my question?
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 14 Dec 1992 22:56:46 GMT
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In a previous article, ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU () says:

>>At least my town now composts
>>Xmas trees.
>
>Rather than composting them here they dump them in ponds to make
>catfish condos.
>
Ours gets dumped in the woods in back of the house; it biodegrades just fine
on its own eventually.  Last year's still has needles on it, but now they're
grey instead of green.:-)  

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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Onion chopping jars
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> Whatever happened to Veg-O-Matics and the little onion-chopping jars?
> They're great for taking one's anger out on the veggies instead of the
> actual target (who just may arrest you).
>
> Evelyn

Those Veg-O-Matics must have been advertised by sleight-of-hand artists.
I could never do what was shown in the TV ads.  But I *loved* my
onion-chopping jar!  The only problem was the mildew that would
occasionally grow on the block of wood in the bottom of the jar.  I've not
seen that particular gadget in years.  (I *have* seen mildew, however :-()
doris
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From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: What kind of people are you, anyway?
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  Natalie undrar:

  >Uh oh.  I've been worried about my brain cells for a good while and am now
  >convinced that the worry was justified.  I could have sworn that the list
  >mail I've been reading was in English.

  Det ar helt enkelt sa att vem som helst kan skriva till words-l pa vilket
sprak som helst, och sa lange den som skriver och den som laser har den ratta
installningen framstar det skrivna och det lasta som engelska eller swahili
eller vilket sprak som helst som alla inblandade forstar. Att du inte har
haft nagra problem med att lasa mina inlagg - som ju alla skrivits pa
svenska - hanfor jag till det enkla faktum att du ar Listgudinnan och
forstar allt.
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Subject:      Re: Neologisms

>                   I had always spelt 'even though' as one word - analogous
>to 'although'. My wonderful Linguistics lecturer was the first to point out
>that I was in error ...

How unlinguistic!


>              but she didn't penalise me for it at all.  She also used
>to excuse everyone's spelling errors in examinations,

Didn't penalise, fine. But only out of niceness? Horrors!

tushar
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In a previous article, gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK (Graham Toal) says:

>        Sure. Which one came first, kewaladvaita or shuddhadvaita?
>
>I am but an egg.
>
Well, you're certainly cracked....  But I thought you were better at laying
eggs than *being* one?

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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:30:41 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Anyone heard about khat in Somalia?
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The thing about khat is, it's not illegal over here yet (because it
doesn't grow here yet), so guess what's the hot topic in psychoactive
circles this week.

-abh
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: Eclipse
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ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka) writes:
>>> Karsten, just for that, I won't tell you what else I was or wasn't wearing.
>>I didn't realize that you had been planning to tell me. 
> I didn't realize you'd really want to know.  Isn't one net.woman enough to
> handle?

Although I have enough restraints... I'd set you up with a friend.
How about a UToledo CS prof?

>>> [Thbbbbbbbp!]  
>> Ah.  So that's how you tried to keep warm.
>> Is it a Hitachi?
> That Japanese pig iron?  No way;

You prefer "Proudly made in the USA"?

> it was a raspberry.

Whatever works for you.

--karsten

(I've heard of cucumbers and zucchini, but a raspberry?)
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