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From: johnboyd@OCDIS01.OC.AFLC.AF.MIL (John Boyd;LAHDI;)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: Spreadsheet/financial application
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:03:12 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I havve been asked by a friend of mine to help put together a (possibly)
spreadsheet/acctg application for some offices of a volunteer group that he
works with.

What it amounts to is that the original info could be input into a
spreadsheet model easily enough; BUT he wants to hang onto that a screen
display that 'looks like' a check, into which they would enter the
necessary info to represent paying a check.

Now, I know how much effort it would take to write this thing from scratch;
so as an alternate, what I'm trying to do is to come up with a couple
pieces of software that when working together, would give him what he
wanted.

At first I thought that it would be easy enough to get a product called
'Dave' to make the checkbook analogy and to handle the GUI, but I can't 
seem to find it anywhere.

I have decided that once the spreadsheet portion was written, we'll compile
it with Baler, to lock the formulas, etc, and it'll only do what it needs
to do at the multiple user sites in order to produce the necessary output,
that'll then be forwarded back to my friend @headquarters. That way they
won't have to have, or even run a full-blown spreadsheet program.  BUT, that
doesn't give me the checkbook entry form analogy.

The individual field offices really don't need a full-blown, or even
mini-accounting package for this, and that's why I landed on the
spreadsheet function in the first place.

Also, I need to be able to 'get at' the data occasionally with either a
database, or spreadsheet program, so going with something other than an
accounting pkg, assures that the data will be in one of those two formats,
instead of an accounting pkg's native (proprietary) format.

Does anyone know of a pkg, or pkgs, either commercial or shareware that'll
give us the functionality described? 

Thanx!!

Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc,sci.electronics
From: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com (Gantt Edmiston)
Subject: Adding 3rd party memory to PC's
Originator: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:14:56 GMT
Reply-To: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Keywords: Gateway


Hi, I'm in the market for my very first PC.  I've saved and saved (for years)
and watched the PC market as it has evolved and even better, as prices
have fallen through the floor.  As it will become apparent, I don't know
a lot about what I'm buying, thus this posting.

After lots of looking around and asking friends for recommendations, I
have probably decided on a Gateway 2000 486DX2/66mHz ISA  machine.
Several trade journals recommend the DX2 machines and all suggest that
a *minimum* CPU cache of 128K is the way to go.  Unfortunately, Gateway
only offers 64K cache.  Their sales representative suggests that I could
get the cache increased but they do not currently do it.  They even gave
me the number of a guy who sells cache memory!  I called him and he said
that all I need to do was to pull 8 chips out and insert his 8 chips and
cache would go from 64K to 256K!  And all for $69.00 for the set of 8
chips!  Now this sounds too good to be true!  Is this kosher?  He did 
mention that a jumper would have to be changed and the books that come
with the PC should show me how to do this.  Is this standard or is there
a possibility that the Gateway system doesn't have the sockets for the
new (and larger) chips?

EVERYTHING else in the lineup of features meets or exceeds my personal
requirements for my new PC with the exception of the cache memory.  Anybody
done this, with success.  Obviously no one has the system described above
cause Gateway hasn't shipped the first one yet.  They say in about 6 weeks.

Still, if anyone can shed some light in this area, I would be most
appreciative.  I tried calling Gateway back but unfortunately they require
that I speak with *my* sales rep who has gone for the holiday weekend. =-(

Guess they are making money faster than they care for....

You can reply directly back to me, or post, either way is greatly appreciated.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
From: Q07@vm.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Thomas Schramm)
Subject: Need TVM-Monitor Service Parts
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 12:47:08 CET

Does anybody know where to get a service manual and -parts (i need
a line output transformer for a MD-7E) for TVM monitors?
Thanks,
        T.S.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
From: lchiu@animal.gcs.co.nz (Laurence Chiu)
Subject: Re: MPC - standard or hype?
Organization: GCS Limited, Wellington, New Zealand
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:28:24 GMT

In article <9208311943.AA11934@ocdis01.oc.aflc.af.mil> johnboyd@OCDIS01.OC.AFLC.AF.MIL (John Boyd;LAHDI;) writes:
>A friend is contemplating buying a CD-ROM drive for his 386.  I know that
>there are at least two formats for CDs.  What info do I need to pass on the
>him to assure that he will be buying and staying MPC compliant?  What
>exactly does it *mean* to be "MPC compliant"?  Thanx!!

That's what I have been wondering myself also. From what I have gleaned so far
the drive must be Hi Sierra (?) compatible (almost all are) and therefore can
be accessed by the MSCDEX driver software. The drive must also be capable of
sustaining a transfer rate of >= 150kb/s to support smooth full motion video.
I've also heard talk about access time < 380ms but that does not jive with
other information I've seen. For example Tandy sell a MPC system with their
own CD ROM which although can transfer at the required rate, has an access
time of 1000ms!  Go figure!

Laurence Chiu
From: johnboyd@OCDIS01.OC.AFLC.AF.MIL (John Boyd;LAHDI;)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: MPC - standard or hype?
Date: 24 Aug 92 18:22:15 GMT
Organization: The Internet

A friend is contemplating buying a CD-ROM drive for his 386.  I know that
there are at least two formats for CDs.  What info do I need to pass on the
him to assure that he will be buying and staying MPC compliant?  What
exactly does it *mean* to be "MPC compliant"?  Thanx!!
From: SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU (Murph Sewall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: Re: Mail Order Hate Letter about USA Flex in Illinois
Date: 1 Sep 92 05:07:22 GMT
Organization: Connecticut's Business School

On 29 Aug 92 05:02:31 GMT you said:
>In the beginning (oh no...) I ordered a Twincom 14.4DF modem.  They said
>they had them in stock for $384 plus shipping.  [tale of woe deleted]
>...Well, the tech support person told me that I could return my modem
>and buy a more reliable brand, such as Practical Peripherals, for a
>slightly higher price.  I have decided to cancel my order and buy a Zoom
>modem of an equal model for $100 less from MidWest Micro.  Does anyone have
>experience with MidWest Micro?

I haven't done business with Midwest Micro, but I'm transmitting this
reply over a Zoom V.32.bis FAX Modem which works terrific and only cost
me $299 (with Mac software and cable) from MacConnection.  A colleague
told me today that the PC version (PC Connection) is $289 (external).

I second the recommendations for Mac/PC Connection.  One thing others
did not mention is that for a measly $3 extra you can get overnight
delivery (I ordered the Zoom a 9pm one evening and got it from Federal
Express a 3p the next afternoon... not bad).  It's true that
MacConnection (and presumably the PC counterpart) isn't always the
lowest price (I've been known to buy from one or two other vendors :)
but they've never been much out of line on things I've wanted and they
also have a 30 day money back guarantee on most products (including a
lot of, but not all, software).

/s Murph Sewall <Sewall@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
From: BOORMABC@snyalfva.cc.alfredtech.edu (SysOp... TECH-Line BBS... Alfred State)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: (none)
Date: 29 Aug 92 00:58:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet


Help
From: bf479@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Russell Jackson II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: Commodore64 list &/or newsgroup?
Date: 3 Sep 1992 23:42:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Are there any Commodore64 listserve lists or Commodore64 newsgroups? Please send reply to rlangsto@uahcs2.uah.edu

thanks
From: white_ca@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: help me!!!
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:59:57 GMT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC


Can anyone tell me anything about the Onyx computer.  The computer that I
have was originally used in a floral shop. It has the TeleFloral
name printed on the keyboard. Any info. would be appreciated.

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*                    * Evidence that TX men do grow weary!!!            *  
*                    *  If life is but a dream, then dreamers are those * 
*Charles White       *  who see a vision of a reality soon to come.     *
*1220 8th st N.E.    *                                                  * 
*Hickory, N.C. 28601 *                                                  *
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
From: ben@rex.uokhsc.edu
Subject: Is this system worth having?
Originator: usenet@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:27:55 GMT
Reply-To: benjamin-goldsteen@uokhsc.edu
Organization: University of Oklahoma HSC, R&E Computing


   I am posting this for somebody else.  Somebody is thinking
of donating this computer to a hospital in Israel.  They want
to know if they will be able to get support for it and if
it is worth having, etc.

It is a 
Bull Computer
D P S - 6+
1.2 GBytes of disk
16 Megs of RAM
20 - H D S - 5 Terminals
2 - 1000 - Line printers
2 - Laser printers

I would have to guess that a comparable system could be purchased new
for no more then $20,000.  What does anybody else think?
From: gking@HUACHUCA-EMH2.ARMY.MIL (GKing)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: GNU GAS/GCC/G++
Date: 28 Aug 92 04:33:46 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


  Has anyone attempt to port or get this products operational on
AT&T 3B2-600 with 5.3.2.

  Thanks!
From: RALPHJ@NAIT.AB.CA (Ralph Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: (none)
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:59:45 GMT
Organization: The Internet

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From: eudoh@st6000.sct.edu (Etop Udoh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: Floppy drive database....
Date: 30 Aug 92 04:06:37 GMT
Organization: The Internet


hi,


  Is there such as thing as (like the harddrive database) a floppy
drive database which contains a list of every or almost every type of
floppy drive made, size, and capacities, etc....???????????
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
From: jejones@microware.com (James Jones)
Subject: how many flavors of flopticals?
Keywords: floppy, optical positioning, compatibility
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:58:18 GMT

I got a blurb in the mail today from a computer supply place, and one of
the things in the catalog is a floptical drive--you know, a SCSI beastie
that will do canonical 3.5" 720K and 1.44M disks AND do special floppy
disks that will hold 20 Mbytes.

Anyway, I got to wondering...the brand name mentioned is "GrassRoots
Removable Disk Technology."  A company I have heard of in the past that
makes this sort of drive is Insite.  Question: are we talking two
incompatible drives here, or are we dealing with the same format?
Heck, for all I know, GrassRoots may be an OEM for Insite, or something
of that sort.

I'm curious, because I'm thinking semi-seriously (when I have money :-)
about getting one from somebody, and I'd hope that there aren't two
different formats out there.

Please email; I'll summarize if there's sufficient response and
interest.  Thanks.

	James Jones

(Unassociated with either company mentioned in the above text, save that
perhaps I'll be a customer of one of them someday--also, of course, any
opinions expressed in the above are purely those of the author.)
From: mdtaylor@apple.com (Mark Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: Data General Nova
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:38:20 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.misc
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

I have in my garage a Data General Nova computer that's about 20 years old.
 It's "almost in working order," but minus the TTY.  I don't want to hold
on to it any more - any ideas what I should do with it?

Thanks.

- Mark
From: eudoh@st6000.sct.edu (Etop Udoh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: 720K  5-1/4" diskettes...
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:50:31 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


hi,


   Does anyone know where I can buy 720K  5-1/4" DSDD 96tpi diskettes...
?????????????????????????????????
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
From: acuff@sumex-aim.stanford.edu (Richard Acuff)
Subject: PenPoint slow to wake on NCR 3125 ?
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:29:24 GMT

One of the ways to extend the rather short battery life of current-generation pen computers like the NCR 3125 is to make generous use of the low-power stand-by mode.  Unfortunately, the substantial amount of time taken to go to stand-by mode and wake up from it makes this an unattractive option.

I'd like to understand why PenPoint has this problem and what can/is being done about it.

To illustrate the problem, I took some timings with our NCR 3125.  The relevant numbers are how long it took to go into stand-by mode and how long it took to wake up from stand-by for both PenPoint 1.0A and DOS.  For going into stand-by I measured time from press of the orange button to display off.  For waking up, I measured time from press of orange button to working system.  For a fair test, I made DOS wake up the disk, too, by viewing a file with DOSshell after wake up (ie. I put the system to sleep wi


th a not-previously-viewed small file selected and the file menu up, and tapped "View Contents" as soon as the screen came back).  All times are in seconds.

Action          PenPoint         DOS
-------         --------        -----
Stand-by        16              4.3
Wake            15              8
Wake without disk               3.5

Here are my questions:

1. Why does PenPoint take an extra 7 seconds to wake up over DOS?

2. What does PenPoint need to do that takes 11.7 seconds and lots of disk rattling when standing by?

3. Why does the disk have to spin at all for wake-up?

My understanding is that the 3125 retains all RAM data when in stand-by mode, so I can't understand at all why PenPoint would have to do anything, much less almost 10 seconds worth of stuff to stand-by and wake-up???

I haven't tested this on other pen computers--can someone comment on whether the ThinkPad and other units share the difficulty?

        -- Rich

PS: This is a copy of a message I'm posting to CompuServe and to comp.sys.pen since there aren't clear divisions of appropriateness.
From: arno@applelink.apple.fr (Arno Gourdol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
Subject: Signature Authentification
Date: 27 Aug 92 11:54:35 GMT
Organization: University of Grenoble
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-XXMessage-ID: <A6C210DDA501047E@arno.apple.com>
X-XXDate: Thu, 27 Aug 92 04:55:57 GMT

Hi,

would you have any pointer on Signature Authentification algorithms (i.e.
I sign on a tablet, and the machines tells "this guy pretends to be John
Doe, and he really is so"). Does anybody have any such algorithms
(eventually for sale). What kind of parameters are important (pressure,
speed?)?

I heard (or dreamed) that PenPoint has this feature: when you start your
machine, you must sign-in before using it. Am I correct?

Arno.

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From: arno@applelink.apple.fr (Arno Gourdol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
Subject: Signature Authentification
Date: 27 Aug 92 11:55:30 GMT
Organization: University of Grenoble
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-XXMessage-ID: <A6C21115EF02047E@arno.apple.com>
X-XXDate: Thu, 27 Aug 92 04:56:53 GMT

Hi,

would you have any pointer on Signature Authentification algorithms (i.e.
I sign on a tablet, and the machines tells "this guy pretends to be John
Doe, and he really is so"). Does anybody have any such algorithms
(eventually for sale). What kind of parameters are important (pressure,
speed?)?

I heard (or dreamed) that PenPoint has this feature: when you start your
machine, you must sign-in before using it. Am I correct?

Arno.

--
Minds, like parachutes, only function when open.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
From: paulw@netcom.com (Paul L. Williams)
Subject: Boston chapter of Worldwide PenPoint Developers Organization
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 09:02:37 GMT
Organization: Pen^2 -- Pen-squared Computing
Reply-To: paulw@netcom.com

Any software developers in the Boston area who might be interested in
a Boston chapter of the Worldwide PenPoint Developers Organization
(WPDO) are encouraged to contact:

        Jim Duca
        First Pen Systems, Inc
        100 Otis St, 4A
        Northboro, MA  01532
            fax:    508/393-9756
            phone:  508/393-9793
            email:  firstpen@world.std.com    (Internet)
                    70312, 3103               (CompuServe)

The WPDO parent organization is located in the San Francisco bay
area, near the GO Headquarters.  The goal of the WPDO is to serve the
needs of PenPoint developers. To this end, the WPDO sponsors
technical presentations, distributes a newsletter and runs a BBS
where developers can share sample code, developer tools, etc.  The
WPDO is an independent nonprofit organization, not a division of the
GO Corporation.

For information about the WPDO parent organization, or for
information on starting a WPDO chapter in your area, contact:

        Paul Williams
        Pen-squared Computing
        750 N. Shoreline Blvd, Suite 169
        Mountain View, CA    94043-3254
             fax:       415/694-7377
             voice:     415/694-PENS (7367)
             email:     paulw@netcom.com            (Internet)
                        71042, 665                  (CompuServe)
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Mountain View, CA    USA
From: kdh@i31s17.ira.uka.de (Klaus Hartenstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
Subject: Re: Any DOS-based handwritten digit recognition packages?
Date: 3 Sep 1992 07:29:04 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: comp
NNTP-Posting-Host: i31s17.ira.uka.de
Keywords: handwriting recognition

In article <19821@drutx.ATT.COM>, djm@druhi.ATT.COM (MarinelliD) writes:
|> I am looking for a DOS-based handwritten-digit recognition
|> algorithm for the numerals 0-9.  If it is part of a more
|> capable alphanumeric recognizer that's fine, but I'll probably
|> want to pare it down.  Not interested in an operating system,
|> just a recognition package. 
|> 
|> Please post your thoughts to the net.  Thanks.



In a german computer magazine, "c't" (5/92, p 212), I found an article,
about recognizing handwritten characters. Yoy can get the algorithm,
written in Turbo-C, via ftp: 

ftp.uni-paderborn.de , /pcsoft/msdos/magazin/ct/ct92/ct9205.zip

The program is not written only for digit-recognition.
It is based on a fuzzy-algorithm, which recognizes previously "learned" 
single-stroke-gestures. I tested it and was very surprised about 
the amazing recognition rate (with regard to the complexity!).
It should be no problem to expand the algorithm for multi-strokes and
to increase the recognition rate by defining additional clasifiers.

						'hope it helps...

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From: djm@druhi.ATT.COM (MarinelliD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
Subject: Any DOS-based handwritten digit recognition packages?
Keywords: handwriting recognition
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:57:36 GMT
Distribution: comp

I am looking for a DOS-based handwritten-digit recognition
algorithm for the numerals 0-9.  If it is part of a more
capable alphanumeric recognizer that's fine, but I'll probably
want to pare it down.  Not interested in an operating system,
just a recognition package. 

Please post your thoughts to the net.  Thanks.
From: Pamela_Kinion@GO.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
Subject: Re: Signature Authentification
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:14:54 GMT


   Peripheral Vision in Somerset, England has a signature
   authentication application for PenPoint called PenOp.  I don't know
   about its availability schedule.  The number is +44 373 52755 and
   the person with whom I have spoken is Jeremy Newman.  There is also
   an internet address but I don't have it off hand.  If you need it,
   I'll try and track it down for you.  These folks have been spending
   lots of time researching the legalities of electronic signatures,
   too.  Hope this helps.

   Pamela Kinion