From: javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha Javad)
Subject: Re: Jetta experiences (Was:Re: info on jetta)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:36:34 GMT
Distribution: rec.autos.vw
Organization: Hewlett Packard 

In article <57021@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> chrisg@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Chris Granitz) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.182529.10403@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com> javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha Javad) writes:
>>I would just like to point out here (as I have in the past) that I have
>>a 90 1/2 GLI which I absolutley love, and at the time I bought it it was
>>made in Germany.  I have maintained it regularly, have all the records,
>>use only Chevron Supreme Unleaded with Autobahn gas treatment every 3rd
>>or 4th fill up, castrol 20W-50 every 2.5-3k, etc.  Yet, I am on my 3rd
>>distributor, 4th EGR valve, 2nd computer, 2nd set of knock sensors, 2nd
>>water pump, 2nd oxygen sensor (all under warranty), and my turn signal relay
>>died right at the end of my warranty, and I paid 70 bucks to fix it.  It
>>So basically, I am COMPLETELY
>>dissatisfied with this car's reliability, and I am always anticipating another
>
>     Did YOU determine whether all of the above mentioned components were
>actually in need of replacement, or did the dealer/shop simply tell you
>that they needed to be replaced ? I find it hard to believe that all of those
>components failed so soon considering the exceptional care you have given it.
>I have a feeling that the dealer may be taking advantage of you, therby making
>a good car seem bad. I have an 87 Golf GT and a 90 Jetta GL that I drive
>VERY hard (regular shifts above 5000 rpm on Shell regular 87 octane gas - no
>injector cleaner, regular Pennzoil 10W30/Fram filter) and I have never had
>any unusual/unexpected problems. You might look into another shop when the
>warranty runs out or learn to fix it yourself. You might save yourself a pile
>of cash and enjoy the car even more.
>
>>But you know what?  I still wouldn't drive anything else! (Maybe a GTI 16V,
>>or a Corrado VR6).  Am I crazy, or what?
>
>No, I don't think your crazy. It's just a simple testimonial to the lure that
>these cars can have.
>
>
>     --Chris Granitz  chrisg@verdi
>

Actually, in the distributors case, both replacements were due to oil leaking
into the distributor. The EGR valves were making annoying noise at idle,
the ox sensor and water pump were recalls, the knock sensor and computer were
replaced because the car would turn off during idle, or even during motion 
between gears.  And the turn signal relay was bad because my turn signal
wouldn't work.  The only thing I paid for was the turn signal relay. Byt
the way, I regularly steam clean the engine, check it for leaks, etc., check
my brakes/cvjoints and all that kind of thing too.  I'm just saying for me
it is worth it since I love my car, but for a lot of people it's not. IMHO,
they could get a lot of sales if they just pay a little more attention to 
quality control. Of course, another reason their sales are down is they are
always lagging behind in bringing new models (e.g. the 93's, or the 90 GTI
16v in 1990 when I bought my GLI), i.e., they have fewer products out there
for sale.  Especially when you can go buy all the 93 Japanese models, a lot
of people look elsewhere if they are looking for a car now.  Just an
observation, and no flames intended.


Javad


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