HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.humor.d
Subject: Re: alt.ascii-art ?  (was: alt.fan.cows)
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 17:28:22 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Parnell New Zealand.

drizzt@spock.uucp (Neela Jacques) writes:

> In article <q91XwB4w165w@status.gen.nz> jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) write
> >fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox) writes:
> >
> >> foxx@foxxjac.b17a.ingr.com (AJ Foxx) writes:
> >> 
> >> >Is there a newsgroups appropriate for the posting of
> >> >ascii art?  If so, someone please do tell.  If not, I
> >> >would not be deeply wounded by the consideration of an 
> >> >alt.ascii-art newsgroup
> >> 
> >> I will second this.  I am a fan of ASCII art, and would like to see what
> >> others are doing in this under-rated field of artwork.  Admittedly it
> >> would be a low-volume group, but it would still be interesting to some
> >> people.  How many?  I don't know.  At least two, maybe more.  And cow
> >> art postings would at least fit into it, and would be almost ignorable.
> > 
> > alt.ascii-art is a sound idea indeed. I second-second this!
> >
> >
> > Jon Clarke                                                     Z*NET Pacifi
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> >     "Practise safe computing ! Wear a write protect tab!" jc 1988
> 
> 
> what we would have to do to get this going?
> -- 
 
 A simple control message, newgroup alt.ascii.art or alt.ascii-art
 by the chap who started the thread.


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Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.tv.northern-exposure
From: jollie@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Jeffrey C. Ollie)
Subject: New newsgroup -- alt.tv.picket-fences
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 05:25:37 GMT
Organization: The University of Iowa, Iowa City, Iowa
Followup-To: alt.config

I would like to propose the creation of a new newsgroup --
alt.tv.picket-fences.  This group would be dedicated to the discussion
of the series _Picket Fences_.


Jeff Ollie
jollie@herky.cs.uiowa.edu
"The Happy User"
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.fan.babak-sehari
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 18:05:18 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Parnell New Zealand.

cgd@stinson.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Chris G. Demetriou) writes:

> i proposet alt.fan.babak-sehari
> 
> why?
> 
> because anyone with the guts to try to post something like the following,
> automatically, to every newsgroup they have access to deserves a fan club!
> 
 
 Surely you jest ? (grin)


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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.answers
Organization: ASU, Valley of the Sun(s), AZ
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:31:38 GMT

tp@mccall.com (Terry Poot) writes:

)Remember, this is alt. Nobody is authorized to do (or prohibited from doing)
)anything whatsoever. Self-moderation means you mark the group moderated, and
)there is no moderator. People that know how to post to moderated groups still
)can do so, but you won't have "accidental" postings. They'll be duly forwarded
)to a bit-bucket somewhere (someone could be nice and send back a form letter
)explaining things). 
)
)Nothing is inappropriate, but if someone decides something is, they will cancel
)it and everyone will flame them. This is alt. 

Agreed. But what is the solution to the archives? I have had little
problems with searching FAQs of alt groups that made their way to
news.answers and I am sure many others would have gained by that too.

Who is going to take care of it?  Certainly not the proponents of
unmoderation or self-moderation I suppose.

Sridhar.
--
Sridhar Venkataraman	ASU, Tempe, Arizona USA  sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
Xref: sparky alt.config:8322 rec.humor.d:2902
From: jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer)
Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.humor.d
Subject: Re: alt.fan.cows
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:06:36
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
	<1992Dec31.195131.28127@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu's message of 31 Dec 92 19:51:31 GMT

> Don't knee-jerk out the ad hominen attacks the very first
> thing, m'dear.

=o= Can we knee-jerk out the accusations of sexism for your
use of the patronizing "m'dear?"

=o= Would the proposed newsgroup welcome discussion about
cattle mutilations?  The global warming effect of bovine
flatulence?
    <_Jym_>
Xref: sparky alt.config:8395 rec.arts.books:24770 alt.fan.dave_barry:1168 alt.fan.pratchett:3971 rec.humor:37905 rec.arts.tv:25248 soc.culture.british:18569
From: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Rao Akella)
Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.arts.books,alt.fan.dave_barry,alt.fan.douglas_adams,alt.fan.pratchett,rec.humor,rec.arts.tv,soc.culture.british
Subject: Proposal for new alt newsgroup: alt.fan.wodehouse
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:43:04 GMT
Reply-To: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu
Followup-To: alt.config
Organization: Colon Cancer Control Study, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis


I humbly propose the creation of a new alt newsgroup:

	alt.fan.wodehouse

The raison d'etre of this newsgroup would be to discuss the works of one of the
most humourous writers of this century: the late, the great, the incomparable,
the peerless, the one and only P.G. Wodehouse.  There are lots of closet fans
of PGW who will pop out of the woodwork before you can say "What ho!" if a
vehicle (this newsgroup) were to be provided for them to get together.  This
idea was bandied about last year in another fan newsgroup (a.f.pratchett, I
believe), and there was lots of popular support.

Please forgive the breadth of the cross-posting.  The Dave Barry, Douglas Adams
and Terry Pratchett newsgroups are being included because PGW fans are likely
to congregate at such watering-holes.  Rec.arts.tv is being included because
PBS is currently airing the second Wodehouse series "Jeeves and Wooster" (one
more reason why people might want to talk about PGW).  Note the follow-up to
alt.config.

If you are in favour of this newsgroup, one of the issues you might want to
consider is: alt.fan.wodehouse or alt.fan.pgwodehouse (I somehow think
alt.fan.SirPelhamGrenvilleWodehouse would be frowned upon :-)
-- 
Rao Akella, Research Assistant           Internet:   rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu
Colon Cancer Control Study               Bitnet:     rao%moose@umnacvx
University of Minnesota, Minneapolis     NIC Handle: RVA3

	"To my daughter Leonora without whose never-failing sympathy and
	encouragement this book would have been finished in half the time."
			-- P.G. Wodehouse, dedication of "The Heart of a Goof"
Xref: sparky alt.config:8364 comp.sys.ibm.pc.games:29840
From: harwood@umiacs.umd.edu (David Harwood)
Newsgroups: alt.config,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL FOR NEW NEWSGROUP: alt.games.vga.planets
Date: 10 Jan 93 17:45:24 GMT
Followup-To: alt.config
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

In article <C0nEAM.2tx@ccu.umanitoba.ca> roholdr@ccu.umanitoba.ca (R Ross Holder Jr) writes:
|It was drawn to my attention previously and has since become of concern to me
|(as I have taken an interest in the game as of late) that there is a desire
|to establish a newsgroup dedicated to the VGA Planets game.  Its purpose and
|scope would similar to that of rec.games.empire and would divert traffic
|from comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.  (Such traffic, it may be argued, is insigificant.
|However, it's precisely this insignificance that contributes to VGA Planets
|and related articles getting lost amongst the doezens of subject headings.)
|
|I asked our mail administrator here to start the group, and he is willing
|provided there is some discussion of the matter.  I would imagine that we'd
|see about as much use of the group as we see with rec.games.* groups and
|with the group FAQs about VGA Planets FTP sites may be continued and
|maintained on a more routine basis.  Further, any mailing lists may now be
|replaced with the convenience of such a newsgroup.
|
|Since my news admin is watching, if you feel you'd like to see this news-
|group begun, just say so in even the briefest of follow-up articles here.
|(Make sure the post is visible to alt.config.)  You contribution will be
|an important part of seeing this newsgroup - for which I believe there is
|significant demand, and whose time is long overdue - finally started.
|-- 
|R. Ross Holder, Jr.    INTERNET: roholdr@ccu.umanitoba.ca   (Winnipeg, Manitoba)
|Department of Philosophy   ---Season's-Greetings---   The University of Manitoba
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------

OK - you have have my vote. Ordinarily, I haven't any interest in playing
computer games; I don't even use PC's in my work, except at home. But I
tried this multi-player, turn-based game, and it is pretty good recreation
(while watching CNN ;-). So I'd be content to read a VGAPlanets newsgroup.
[But what if it becomes a "commercial" (non-shareware) product?]
D.H.
Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.humor.d
From: foxx@foxxjac.b17a.ingr.com (AJ Foxx)
Subject: Re: alt.fan.cows
Followup-To: alt.config
Reply-To: foxx@foxxjac.b17a.ingr.com
Organization: "n.  A group united by a common interest or goal"
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:41:41 GMT

jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr) writes:
|> foxx@foxxjac.b17a.ingr.com (AJ Foxx) writes:
|> >Is there a newsgroups appropriate for the posting of
|> >ascii art?  If so, someone please do tell.  If not, I
|> >would not be deeply wounded by the consideration of an 
|> >alt.ascii-art newsgroup in which to post cow art; however,
|> >I think limiting such postings only to cows is a bit too 
|> >narrow.  As for the remaining possibilities of cow related
|> >humor, I would say build threads in the rec.humor groups
|> >until sufficient interest is either evident or not.  
|> >  --AJ
|> 
|> Do you want a group called alt.art.ascii?  I'd support it if several dozen
|> other people also wanted it... otherwise, we'll just go on posting cow art
|> in rec.pets and damn the torpedoes. :)

I think it would be better to stick with a single hyphenated name
(alt.ascii-art) rather than try and create an extra heirarchy.
  --AJ
Newsgroups: alt.config,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: PA142548@utkvm1.utk.edu (T. Archer)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL FOR NEW NEWSGROUP: alt.games.vga.planets
Organization: University of Tennessee 
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:34:06 GMT

In article <C0nEAM.2tx@ccu.umanitoba.ca> roholdr@ccu.umanitoba.ca (R Ross Holder Jr) writes:
I would read alt.games.vga.planets
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Vote Dempublican, it's easier than thinking.
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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Colorado Ski Report
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff and Nonsense Division
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 16:08:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.033310.26399@news.vanderbilt.edu> LIPSCOJA@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu (Andy Lipscomb) writes:

>In <C0KDBx.3qE@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu writes:
>
>> Give me a good reason not to alias it to alt.politics.homosexuality,
>> which is doing a marvelous job of soaking up the Amendment 2 runoff.
>
>I don't know about that, since a.p.h might object to pro-2 postings.

No more so than in any other newsgroup.  alt.politics.homosexuality
was created to deal with "pro" and "con" arguments with respect to
homosexuality that were regarded as undesirable by members of
soc.motss.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) / 
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: jamie@cs.sfu.ca (Jamie Andrews)
Subject: "alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions"
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:27:11 GMT

     What on God's green earth is this??

     Did some vote for "comp.os.linux.questions" fail, so Jyrki
decided to create it as part of his private "alt.uu" demesne?

     Or was there some meeting of the Usenet University council
(hint: 1 member) which decided that this was an appropriate
Usenet University "course topic"?

99% of the traffic I've seen in the "alt.uu" groups consists of:

- "what is this group for / how does this group work" questions
- Copies of FAQs from other groups, posted by Jyrki
- Endless copies of the "Usenet University charter", posted by Jyrki
- Cross-posts from comp, sci, etc. groups where the discussion
  *should* be taking place
- The kind of chat that can be found on any alt group

     Now we also have "alt.uu.lang.russian", which might as well
be called "alt.russian", since its content has nothing to do
with any kind of university organization.  They haven't even
gone through the pretence of selecting "course instructors".

     I think Jyrki is planning to create all those 48 groups he
was threatening to create a few months ago, only to do it 2 per
month so no one notices so much.  How long is this travesty
going to continue?

--Jamie.
  jamie@cs.sfu.ca
"The Tao's net encompasses the whole universe."  - tao te ching
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.fan.babak-sehari
Organization: ASU, Valley of the Sun(s), AZ
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:11:56 GMT

cgd@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Chris G. Demetriou) writes:

)i must note that *i* have never been a votetaker for a usenet vote...
)
)i sure as hell hope Babak Sehari hasn't been either!

Oops... That comment was with respect to Babak Sehari. Check
news.announce.newgroups right now! And scan the results till the
last line. Something really interesting is in store. :)

Sridhar.
--
Sridhar Venkataraman			sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.answers
Date: 9 Jan 93 22:01:37 GMT
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <1993Jan9.195644.6337@ennews.eas.asu.edu> sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman ) writes:
|Jef Poskanzer <jef@netcom.com> writes:
|)I repeat the third alternative: self-moderation, like alt.hackers.
|
|1. Who is authorised to cancel inappropriate postings?

Nobody.  Everybody.  This is alt.  There is no such thing as an inappropriate
posting to a self-moderated newsgroup.

|2. Who gets to decide what is inappropriate?

Anyone who can read RFC1036, I guess.

  Bill
From: jc@gmd.de (Juergen Christoffel)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.answers
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:52:32 GMT
Reply-To: jc@news.gmd.de
Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany

In <C0H2Fu.41C@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:

>Now that the proposed *.answers groups have passed their respective
>votes, I propose that alt.answers be created to carry FAQs for alt.*
>groups.

alt.answers (moderated or unmoderated) just suits me fine. Go ahead.

	--jc
-- 
  J|rgen Christoffel, GMD-I8, jc@gmd.de, (++49 2241) 14-2421
  GMD (German National Research Center for Computer Science)
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: "Gary A. Woodward" <p00140@psilink.com>
Subject: new groups
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:43:36 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3)

I have just gotten the update of new groups.  Of the 17, 2 seem to be relevant.
I cannot in my wildest dreams understand someone proposing the 
formulation of these groups.  There obviously has to be a way someone 
can post a new group on the net with out the authority of alt.config.  I 
was under the impression that you had to hold a request for discussion 
then hold a vote.  It seems that there must be some way around this.  
Please respond via e-mail as I don't have an hour to wait for the entire 
bundle to download.  (yes I use dial-up). Alt. cow was a waste.
 

Regards.

Gary

Xref: sparky alt.config:8382 alt.folklore.urban:33210
From: drizzt@spock.uucp (Neela Jacques)
Subject: Re: alt.ascii-art ?  (was: alt.fan.cows)
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:26:26 GMT

In article <q91XwB4w165w@status.gen.nz> jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:
>fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox) writes:
>
>> foxx@foxxjac.b17a.ingr.com (AJ Foxx) writes:
>> 
>> >Is there a newsgroups appropriate for the posting of
>> >ascii art?  If so, someone please do tell.  If not, I
>> >would not be deeply wounded by the consideration of an 
>> >alt.ascii-art newsgroup
>> 
>> I will second this.  I am a fan of ASCII art, and would like to see what
>> others are doing in this under-rated field of artwork.  Admittedly it
>> would be a low-volume group, but it would still be interesting to some
>> people.  How many?  I don't know.  At least two, maybe more.  And cow
>> art postings would at least fit into it, and would be almost ignorable.
> 
> alt.ascii-art is a sound idea indeed. I second-second this!
>
>
> Jon Clarke                                                     Z*NET Pacific
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what we would have to do to get this going?
-- 
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Xref: sparky alt.config:8357 alt.folklore.urban:33066
From: jik@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.answers
Followup-To: poster
Date: 10 Jan 1993 00:10:30 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
	<1ikfln$nv6@agate.berkeley.edu> <1591@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: pit-manager.mit.edu
In-reply-to: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu's message of 8 Jan 93 23:11:14 GMT

(Note the Newsgroups line, despite Terry setting his Followup-To line
to "Your Mother."  Very amusing, Terry.)

In article <1591@blue.cis.pitt.edu> tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu writes:

   Well, he did get voted "the least likely to get the joke" by the readers of
   AFU when he objected to the content of the AFU FAQ (or perhaps because Peter
   wanted to call the archive "jik-dick").  There's an "other" for you.

More accurately, the maintainer of the alt.folklore.urban FAQ
submitted it to news.answers, I rejected it because it did not conform
to the guidelines, he resubmitted it with an archive name of
"jik-dick," and then he started insulting me in alt.folklore.urban
(and, for that matter, in the FAQ).

If I am going to be granted the title "the least likely to get the
joke" by some twits in alt.folklore.urban because I take my job as the
moderator of news.answers seriously, so be it.  For some reason, I do
not feel that my sense of humor is threatened by these people.

I would have accepted the alt.folklore.urban FAQ in news.answers if it
had been submitted in a correct format with a valid (i.e., relevant to
the topic of the FAQ) archive name.  I will still accept it if those
conditions are met.  Neither of them have anything to do with the
content of the posting (as opposed to the form of its headers, which
is all that the news.answers guidelines restrict, and even that, to a
very small degree).

I have archives of the whole alt.folklore.urban FAQ episode, and would
be glad to provide them to anyone who would like to see what really
occurred.  I do not have archives of the various postings in
alt.folklore.urban making fun of me after I rejected the FAQ, because
I saw (and continue to see) no reason to give any credence to them
whatsoever.

I have posted in response to Terry's message because he is making an
accusation different from Jef's.  Now that I have responded, I will
say no more about this topic either.  I just don't think it's
necessary.  Terry, if you want to be juvenile and insult me some more
in alt.config and alt.folklore.urban, feel free -- I'm not going to
stand in your way.

-- 
Jonathan Kamens                                         jik@MIT.Edu
Aktis, Inc.                                 Moderator, news.answers
From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: alt.fan.cows ... or perhaps alt.humor.ascii-art
Date: 4 Jan 1993 06:21:49 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

rhodesia@wixer.cactus.org (Felix S. Gallo) writes:

  +newsgroups are for interactive exchange of information.  There are a limited
  +number of idiotic pictures of cows, and also a limited amount of conversation
  +that can go on about them.  ("Wow.  That rendition was especially tedious."
  +"Yes.")  Nothing about ascii cows has any non-repetitive value whatsoever.

Hey, this is the ALT SEWER [tm]!  Anything goes!
  
  +Joel Furr believes that by being involved in creating a newsgroup, he'll gain
  +some number of experience points and perhaps some fame.  His bids for
  +recognition via following-up to interesting people's posts have so far failed
  +and he's getting desperate for attention.  

Oh, forget it then.  I'd go for it if it'd increase the number of 
hit points though.  Want to think about and get back to us, Joel?
  
  +Again, you're so magnanimous.  I haven't seen a single other post in all of
  +usenet even mentioning the possibility that alt.humor.cows would be a good
  +idea, but I'm sure your loyal throngs are just biding their time.right?right?

Are lemurs loyal?  I thought they'd take any opportunity to bit the
hand that feeds them...  Fortunately, they don't have net access, yet.
  
  +If you're really stricken by a need to post ascii art to usenet, then I think
  +the person who should be doing some listening is the systems administrator at
  +nyx.cs.du.edu. Pathological, repetitive idiocy should be punishable by death,

Pathological is out?  How about chronic?  Inherited?  Acquired?  [Hmmm..
chronic, repetitive idiocy....]


Terry "It's not warm enough yet" Chan
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