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From: julian@bongo.UUCP (Julian Macassey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL National?
Date: 29 Jul 92 01:23:50 GMT
Reply-To: julian@bongo.info.com (Julian Macassey)
Organization: The Hole in the Wall  Hollywood California U.S.A.

In article <9207281417.AA02764@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu> crawford@ENUXHB.EAS.ASU.EDU (Brian Crawford) writes:
>
>The specifics of the ARRL National in Los Angelas were not mentioned in this
>month's QST.
>
>Does anyone know where exactly in LA it is to be held?  

Where: Los Angeles Airport Marriott Hotel
	Rooms call (800) 228-9290 Mention HAMCON '92'
When: August 20-23 1992


	Yes, I will be there as a speaker. I have told them I would
like to give a presentation on: "How to make a really good cup of tea".
They didn't seem to happy about this, but then they have probably never
had a really good cup of tea.

	
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742 1/2 North Hayworth Avenue Hollywood CA 90046-7142 voice (213) 653-4495
From: bill@prijat.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 30 meter mystery
Date: 22 Jul 92 11:21:30 GMT
Reply-To: bill@platypus.uofs.edu
Organization: University of Scranton, Scranton, PA

In article <9207201723.AA24628@ucsd.edu>, NELSON_M%athena@leia.polaroid.COM (Mark Nelson (AJ2X) x3378) writes:
|> 
|> 				-- GEARVAKf Bulletin Vol. 23, No. 1
|> 					(Spring 1983)

What part of Spring 1983??   April 1 I would imagine.

bill    KB3YV

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From: jangus@skyld.UUCP (Jeff Angus)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Is it "business" if I use and autopatch to...
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:15:50 GMT
Organization: Grendel's Lair


In article <14vv06INN11t@network.ucsd.edu> brian@ucsd.edu writes:

  > Again, the person at the scene is the one who can judge the danger of the
  > situation.  Don't try to second-guess him.  If he says it's an emergency,
  > IT IS.

A glimmer of light. To those that HAD to offer pages of explanations on why
THEY were right and why I was wrong, read the above three lines. I never said
I would take down the patch. I merely stated my opinion on where the lines
were drawn on emergency situations.

xenon!skyld!jangus   < This space left blank intentionally. >
J Angus, PO Box 4425, Carson CA 90749-4425 voice (310) 324-6080
From: ginsburg@wellfleet.COM (Scott Ginsburg)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: any experience with new IRCs?
Date: 27 Jul 1992 05:31:40 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu


Has anyone received DX QSL cards using a just one of the new IRCs? These
are the IRCs that are now $0.95 and are supposed to be good for minimum
postage on an ordinary airmail letter in any country that recognizes them.

For those of you in Europe, do you have the new IRCs? Are they sufficient to
return a single card to the US? I've been told that some European QSL
managers are asking for 2 green stamps, possibly because the dollar isn't
strong against their own currency and/or it costs more to mail an airmail
letter from there than from the US.

						Thanks and 73,
						Scott WA2CJT
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From: slp9m@cc.usu.edu (Scott E. Parker   WA7VYJ)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics
Subject: What's a Mini-Circuits MAR-6?
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:54:13 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

I just found some goodies in a corner of my office.  I suspect they are really
nice goodies although I don't know exactly what they are (they were left by
someone else).  I would appreciate any assistance in making a positive
identification (exactly what the devices are, specs, pinouts).  Here's what
information I have:

Manufacturer: Mini-Circuits
Part number: MAR-6
very small round package; 4 pins, one pin at every 90 deg, one pin marked with
a dot.

-SEP

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From: ron@pilot.njin.net (Ron Natalie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Is it "business" if I use and autopatch to...
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:37:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: pilot.Jul.23.11.37.24.1992.7391
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

> If it means you have to walk 50 feet to a call box and wait an hour
> like the rest of humanity, THAT is merely an inconvience and doesn't
> justify using the auto patch. 

Bullshit.  If you knock down a patch on my repeater I'd seriously
consider filing a claim with the FCC.  Being on the side of a freeway
is dangerous.  Three years of being a firefighter/paramedic whose
territory included a six mile stretch of I-95, I can tell you of
at least a dozen accidents (many fatal) that involved cars/people
on the shoulder being struck.  Any way you can get first the person
and second the vehicle off the shoulder greatly improves the safety
of both the person on the shoulder and the ones on the road.

This is even more important with the propensity around here to convert
the shoulders into HOV (carpool) lanes.

> If you want to use the auto patch to call a tow truck and save yourself some
> inconvience, call a friend tell them what the situation is and have them call.

Eh?  Explain to me how this is any less a third party business
communication than making the call to Joe's towing directly.
From: cchapman@matd.gatech.edu (Charles H. Chapman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: music over the radio
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:23:40 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <x3mmn0d.pdh@netcom.com> pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard ) writes:
>
>Which of the following is the correct quote of FCC rules 97.113(d)
>
>#1
>
>"no station shall transmit: the tones of music;"
>
>#2
>
>"no station shall transmit: music;"
>
>

I think the spirit of the regulation was to prevent people from pretending
to be a broadcast station and competing with the real broadcast stations.
I'd bet my reputation that the FCC doesn't care if you send digitized music
or letters representing musical notes or digitized images of sheet music as
long as the average Joe listening on his shortwave receiver can't hear the
music.

Chuck

Charles H. Chapman  (GTRI/MATD)             (404) 528-7588
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:     ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,ut-ngp}!gatech!matd!cchapman
Internet: cchapman@matd.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: bateman@nsslsun.nssl.uoknor.edu (Monte Bateman)
Subject: Ham Disappears!
Organization: National Severe Storms Laboratory
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:49:11 GMT

Copied from packet; posted for your enjoyment.....

From: VE3BUP @ VE3JF

	According to an article in the World News a Polish ham operator
who has been trying to contact aliens for the past 47 years, has
disappeared.  According to the article lights were seen hovering over
his home for several days before his disappearance.  I am not sure of
the name of the paper but it is printed in outstanding black and white.
This particular edition has a feature story of Aliens and Ross Perot
and shows an alien with his hand on Perot's shoulder.

	I just love these Oracles of truth.

73 Mike (CQ UFO.....)

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Physics Ph.D. Candidate at The University of Oklahoma 
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Packet Radio: WB5RZX @ WB5RZX.OK.USA.NOAM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL Bulletin 68 ARLB068
From: julian@bongo.UUCP (Julian Macassey)
Date: 22 Jul 92 03:46:55 GMT
Reply-To: julian@bongo.info.com (Julian Macassey)
Distribution: na
Organization: The Hole in the Wall  Hollywood California U.S.A.

In article <1504@idacrd.UUCP> n4hy@idacrd.UUCP (Bob McGwier) writes:
>From article <6970@lib.tmc.edu>, by jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard):
>> In article <paulf.711659442@w6yx> paulf@w6yx (Paul Flaherty) writes:
>>>>"American Amateur Radio League" or AARL.
>>>One letter off from AARP...how appropriate.
>> 
>> ARRRRRGGGGGGGH!!!!!!!!
>> 
>> _I'm_ the ARRL, DAMMIT!!!
>> 
>> 
>> (Argh. I'm getting Goddamned tired of reading that kind of crap.)
>
>
>There is only one problem with the Ostrich approach Jay and that is
>the simple counts to provide the demographics behind Paul's statement
>are not subject to interpretation, either emotionally or literally.
	
	The terrible and sad fact is that it does not seem to be just
Amateur Radio that is greying. I read in Fortune magazine that the same
can be said for the hunting community.

	It seems that "participation hobbies" are not attracting youth.
Youth have been brought up via TV and spectator sports to "watch". I am
personally very troubled by this. I don't have any children, but I
have to work with young adults who experience television, not life.

	So, it is a degeneration that affects not just the U.S. amateur
community but the western world. 

	Yes, I know that young people are usually busy getting laid and
raising kids etc, but I am talking here about a continual aging of the
groups in active hobbies. It affects camping, fishing, hunting, amateur
radio, debating societies, bridge clubs etc. Amateur radio is just part
of the problem. I think we need to push for more younger members. But I
think more importantly we need to push to get youth involved - period.

	Consider also that we are living longer with more liesure time.
Shall we condemn these people to watching TV and waiting to die?

	Of course the tragic thing is  that these people plopped 
in front of the TV are not even being informed or entertained. 
Talk about a wasted resource, let alone bandwidth. 

	As the latest song from Bruce Springsteen (who he?) puts it "57
channels and nothing on".

	Yes, I know I am raving about TV. Yes, the TV industry does pay
some of my bills. Yes, I know I have to prove that if people were 
not watching Oprah and Jerry Rivers they would be doing something. 
I grew up hearing that TV (Black and White 2 channels - Geezer 
Alert!) had ruined the art of conversation and hobbies. When I saw 
people in countries with 1 Gummint channel watch pure drivel rather than 
read, I believed it.

	
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From: jseboldt@pnet51.orb.mn.org (John Seboldt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: J-38's, AM, CW, Religion, and Courtesy
Date: 26 Jul 92 22:40:10 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

At last, I'm able to post here...
 
"But I just had to look,
Having read the book,...."
 
   --- Beatles, "A Day in the Life"
 
>Much of the recent discussion about J-38 keys (and any of the other
>thinly disguised forms of the ever-recurrent CW debate) seems to
>ignore the central reality of just what CW is and its true though
>unstated role in Amateur Radio. It is my contention that the key (pun
>intended) to understanding the importance of the J-38 to some hams is
>to see it as a traditional religious implement and morse code as the
>central sacrament of a religion.
 
Fascinating.  As a fundamentally religious man, even "having read the
book" by Jaynes, I would agree wholeheartedly.
 
>Please note that in making my observations I am not making "good vs.
>bad" value judgements but rather studying the phenomena of CW within a
>psychological/phenomenological/religious/anthropological context that
>may explain the devotion that some hams feel towards it as well as
>some of the antagonism felt by others. It is my observation that CW's
>appeal is best understood in the context of religious phenomena and
>questions as to its technical appropriateness are beside the point.
 
TouchE!  On the practicality level, a common analogy often used is that
CW (or AM, or RTTY, or other less-than-perfectly-state-of-the-art modes)
is akin to sailing -- not necessary for routine transportation, but for
the "thrill of it all", the wind in your sails, the bleeps in your ears
from the other side of the world at night on 30 meters with 50 watts and
wire antennas.
 
Speaking to the religion analogy, one might hope for the same tolerance
for one another's ham preferences as our nation's founding fathers hoped
for regarding religion in society.
 
: John Seboldt...Minneapolis, MN...As a ham, K0JD...as a human,       :
: right-brained yet right-handed...as a musician, techie yet creative :
:   UUCP: {crash, kksys, petrus, quest}!orbit!pnet51!jseboldt         :
:   ARPA: crash!orbit!pnet51!jseboldt@nosc.mil                        :
:   INET: jseboldt@pnet51.orb.mn.org                                  :
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: navigational beacons
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:34:10 GMT
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group

In article <1992Jul27.121523.25865@genrad.com> dls@genrad.com (Diana L. Syriac) writes:
>[Julian wrote]
>>	But think of the opportunities. Advertising. "This is VOR Beacon
>>PDZ brought to you by Flamo AvGas. Next time you're on the ground, fill
>>up with Flamo".
>
>Hmmmm, obviously, Julian is not a pilot, otherwise I doubt he would have
>made this suggestion.  Airplane frequencies (ALL OF THEM) are very congested.
>A pilot has to listen (sometimes) to three different frequencies all at the
>same time.  Not easy, especially when you only have two radios :-).  However,
>VOR IDing is one of the things ya gotta do, and ya gotta do it sometimes
>WHILE you are talking to Approach and plus, you can't miss anything they're
>saying cuz it might be for you.  Listening for a Morse code ID underneath
>the existing Approach banter (which is nearly constant in the New England
>area) is fairly easy and trivial.  Listening to a VOR that talks instead
>is more difficult.  Listening to a VOR that has weather information going
>almost constantly is virtually impossible (at the same time as talking to 
>Approach).  With both radios going at the same time, you can't hear either,
>so you miss the VOR ID, plus you miss the Approach calling you at the same
>time.
>
>.....Me, I'll take the Morse code ID any day over a voice ID.

I think I have a better suggestion. Let the VOR play music. Country
into Nashville, Blues into Memphis, Jazz into New Orleans, Motown into
Detroit, etc.  Entertaining and informative. :-)

Gary KE4ZV
From: michel@bbn.com (Tony Michel)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Tetherless Access
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:00:16 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Can someone advise me on how to contact Tetherless Access?

AXM
kd1ik
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics
From: rutgers@prl.philips.nl (Herbert Rutgers)
Subject: Re: What's a Mini-Circuits MAR-6?
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories Eindhoven, Netherlands
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:44:41 GMT

slp9m@cc.usu.edu (Scott E. Parker   WA7VYJ) writes:

>I just found some goodies in a corner of my office.  I suspect they are really
>nice goodies although I don't know exactly what they are (they were left by
>someone else).  I would appreciate any assistance in making a positive
>identification (exactly what the devices are, specs, pinouts).  Here's what
>information I have:

>Manufacturer: Mini-Circuits
>Part number: MAR-6
>very small round package; 4 pins, one pin at every 90 deg, one pin marked with
>a dot.
The MAR6 is an wide band amp up to 2 GHz.
Gain about 20 dB, 3rd order intercept point 15 dBm,
16 mA with 3.5 volts

Connection 1 (with the dot) is input
2 and 4 are ground
3 via RFC to plus 3.5 volts or via RFC and 560 Ohm to 12 volt.

73, PAoSU, Herbert.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: D1SAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Steve Rimar)
Subject: Scanner
Organization: The University of Akron
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:46:48 GMT

What would be a good choice for a programmable scanner that has the
800 - 900 MHZ frequency?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
*                                                                       *
*  STEVE RIMAR                       INTERNET: D1SAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU  *
*  INFORMATION SERVICES              BITNET:   D1SAR@AKRONVM            *
*  THE UNIVERSITY OF AKRON                                              *
*  AKRON, OHIO  44325           "YOU CAN'T ACT LIKE A SKUNK WITHOUT     *
*                                SOMEONE GETTING WIND OF IT."           *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: tonyp@convex.com (honey bunny)
Subject: Spread-Spectrum Transmission
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:09:53 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

I'm putting together a proposal for submission to the FCC 
regarding amateur transmissions using spread-spectrum.

I'd like to be able to submit the results of an actual test.

Has anyone access to the following equipment, which should
suffice for initial trial-testing:

Spreadspectrum transmission:  Broadband Amp (Class A) driven by Heath VF-1

Spreadspectrum reception:  Knight StarRoamer

Spreadspectrum support structure:  Workbench with one leg shorter 
                                   than the others. Large roll-around
				   chair with BIG wooden arms ( for 
				   indirect excitation of VF-1 ).

All results will be available in the Number 4 issue of QST in 1993.


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From: myers@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Myers)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:38:26 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Re:Thread to ham radio (to Ron MIller)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

> 
> We don't seem to have a usenet group for remedial reading........
> 
> Ron



HEY!  Now THERE'S an idea!

Anybody for rec.cat.in.the.hat?

Bob "I am ham.  Ham I am.  Do you think big flames a sham?" M.
KC0EW
From: pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FCC "visitation" policies and fines
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:05:48 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes:

>My understanding is that EVERY user of the tower gets fined, whether
>they are responsible for tower maintenance or not.

This is the FCC's only way to deal with it.  If the owner was also the
significant user, they might choose to just do them initially, but they
don't have to.  Otherwise it would be an FAA matter (and technically also
is anyway).
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rusty@anasazi.com (Rusty Carruth)
Subject: Looking for NM, CO, WYO, and Montana for .....
Keywords: was?
Reply-To: rusty@anasazi.com
Organization: Anasazi Inc, Phoenix AZ USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:05:57 GMT

As I've mentioned before, I'm trying to "work all states 10m Mobile SSB".

I've had a QSO with all but New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana.

Anybody in one of those states who would be willing to try to work some
sort of Sporadic E sched?

Thanks, we now return you to your regularly-scheduled flamefest :-)

Rusty@anasazi.com
From: ron@pilot.njin.net (Ron Natalie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Is it "business" if I use and autopatch to...
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:33:34 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Dialing 911 on a cell phone some systems is not likely to be the most
expedient way to get help.

-Ron
From: esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Eric S Johansson)
Subject: Re: ARRL Bulletin 68 ARLB068
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Date: 24 Jul 92 07:26:54 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Version: Rodney's UUCP modules 02/11/90 V1.18

In article <544@bongo.UUCP> julian@bongo.UUCP (Julian Macassey) writes:
[ deleted valid points about getting youth involved]

> 	Consider also that we are living longer with more liesure time.
> Shall we condemn these people to watching TV and waiting to die?

A small but important point.  I and many of my coworkers are
spending increasing amount of time on the job and have less time for
home and hobby.  for me, an easy week is only 50hrs with a 2 day weekend.
I feel there is an increasing trend of companies sucking their staff dry
well before retirement.  With all of the demands on one's life, it
is astounding that we have people with *any* hobbies.


--- eric (ham, dog trainer, atm, student, eclipse chaser, reader and
	  I work for a living to pay for the others :-)
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From: bruno@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Bruno Bienenfeild)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 2410H MODS?
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:13:19 GMT
Organization: HP Scientific Instruments Division - Palo Alto, CA

Are there any mods, so far, for ICOM 2410H PLEASE ?
If yes let me know where can I find them ? 
Tnx & 73

from the log of AA6AD
From: chuckb@babbage.csus.edu (Chuck Bland)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Missing pages wanted
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:35:54 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: California State University, Sacramento


I have a 1964 ARRL Antenna Book. It has blue on the cover.

Well, the index stops at "Selective Fading". The rest of the page(s)
are missing.

Does someone have this book that would xerox the last pages of the index
and send them to me ?

Chuck Bland - N6DBT
9000 Leatham Ave
Fair Oaks, CA  95628
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: chuckb@babbage.csus.edu (Chuck Bland)
Subject: Want missing pages
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 16:38:13 GMT


I have a 1964 ARRL Antenna Book. It has blue on the cover.

Well, the index stops at "Selective Fading". The rest of the page(s)
are missing.

Does someone have this book that would xerox the last pages of the index
and send them to me ?

Chuck Bland - N6DBT
9000 Leatham Ave
Fair Oaks, CA  95628
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