HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: saleham@cauchy.mcs.clarkson.edu (Anwar M. Saleh)
Subject: Re: grandliban.gif:  INFO
Reply-To: saleham@cauchy.mcs.clarkson.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:27:07 GMT

Elie Dib Wardini (eliedw@ulrik.uio.no):
>
> Anwar do you want to discuss the subject or do just you want us to read your
> comments as if they were final?
>
> elie wardini
 
  To discuss the subject. 
  
  I did not make final comments. Mourad said "France gave decided
  that Lebanon is to be independent from Syria". What legal rights
  France has in Lebanon or Syria? 
    
  Anwar Saleh


Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: hani@pepper.engin.umich.edu (Hani Abinassif)
Subject: Re: Soverienty
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 14:13:56 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: hani@pepper.engin.umich.edu


 masri@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
> Thank you Elie for a wonderful analogy (using Sweden and Norway) this is
> a perfect analogy to the Syria/Lebanon debate.  To re-iterate what you, so
> aptly exhibited in your post:  While there may be many connections between
> Syria and Lebanon (some of them VERY recent) they are now, and should remain
> two separate countries.

With all due respect, but have you ever been to Lebanon or Syria?
Have you lived there for a while?  
Could you be more specific as to why do you think those two states
should be seperate?
It would be more enlightening if you tell us about those "VERY recent connections" you mention.

(I belive in unification of all Arab states similar to EC style, and
not necessarily the two countries)

I am not sure how and why you make such statements!
-Hani 
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From: elie@hdtv.njit.edu (...NADINE...)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: shesmine.gif: INFO
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:19:47 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.


Don't mess with my girl :-)


Caption:

"Solemn young bride and bridegroom of Palestine"


Parents arrange the marriages of their children in Palestine, and often
the bride and bridegroom are quite young. A dowry must be provided
for the girl, but this is not always necessary if she happens to be 
beautiful. The bridegroom is holding a scimitar as a token that he
has the right to exact obedience from his modest-appearing wife.
From: saleham@cauchy.mcs.clarkson.edu (Anwar M. Saleh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: grandliban.gif:  INFO
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:49:22 GMT
Reply-To: saleham@cauchy.mcs.clarkson.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.


eliedw@ulrik.uio.no (Elie Dib Wardini):
>
> Anwar!
> Do you suppose that Al-Kataa'ib represent the Lebanese!
>
  
 No. 
  
> THat is if your statement about asking the Syrians in and out are true.
>
 
 So who brought the Syrians in? and who is asking them out?  
  
>Naji is right, if any part of Lebanon is to become part of Syria (remember that> Syria only existed when France created it and not before as many falsly
> belive!) then it is their choice.
>
 
 Thank you very much. I am for a Lebanese leader who will annex Syria. 
 Or a Syrian Leader who would annex Lebanon. I am for any leader who
 would tear these borders down. I would not mind Bashir Gmayyel ruling
 both Lebanon and Syria and many more. Leaders come and go, with borders
 comes hate. 
  
 How much Americans are proud of America? It was Goerge Washington  
 who fought to make the Union. Imagine 50 independent states. 
 Americans are very diverse, came from different cultures and made  
 one country. Why not Syria and Lebanon? Syria, Lebanon and Iraq and
 so on. a Chinese, Irish, African, Spanish, Italian, Russian could   
 melt in one pot in the USA. 
  
 
> It is not the Kataa'b nor Kamal Joumblat nor Frangieh nor HIzbollah who
> decides.
>
> elie wardini

Anwar Saleh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: eliedw@ulrik.uio.no (Elie Dib Wardini)
Subject: Re: European Parliament and the Lebanese legislative elections
Organization: Univerity of Oslo, Semitics dep.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:54:33 GMT

In article <Jul28.192606.40519@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
bh437292@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (Basil Hamdan) writes:
>In article <27JUL199223145239@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu>,
>csc_alex@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Alex Khalil) writes:
>
> 
>> Thank you Bassem for this posting.
>
>
>I second that.
>
>> I regret that being away from Lebanon, I will not be able to participate in
>> the polls.
>> 
>> Is there an address [ e-mail or other ], we/I could answer this resolution.
>> 
>> How about a common message?
>> 
>> I expect a feedback from you, fellow Netters: Hani, ElieM, ElieW,
>Anwar, Bassil,
>> Christine, Boudi, AliA, AliJ, Naji, Bassem, Wassim, and each and everyone of

>> you who feel concerned.
>> 
>> Scl or e-mail, your answers are welcome. I will post back e-mail if need be.
>> 
>
>I would be happy to participate in a common effort to voice our
>opposition to elections that will have a predictible outcome.
>It is time for us in scl and LebNet to stand up for once
>and do something whorthwhile and meaningful.
>It is time to show a united front for a united, independent,
>and sovereign Lebanon.
>
>
>>Bassem
>
>> 
>> Alex Khalil
>> csc_alex@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu
>> U. of Houston-Downtown
>
>
>Basil 
>


Basil it is time you write something!


yalla write a relevant lettre, Boudi and others will provide addresses.

what we can do is that every Lebnetter and SCLer will send the lettre to those
the apropriate persons.

NB: ElieM is right we have only a few days on our hands!

elie wardini
From: elie@hdtv.njit.edu (...NADINE...)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: hani.gif: INFO
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:20:35 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.


Hani Abinassif wrote:

I wonder, after reading this statement, why most of the "expatriots'"
efforts are concentrating on driving the Syrians out.  Many organizations
spearheaded by the so called CLAO drain their lobbying effort to
change some text format in a congress bill, and do not even care
to lobby for the implementation of UN425. 

Elie Mourad replies:

CLAO is trying to get a similar resolution concerning Syria. Whether
the Syrian leave or not is a different story. So since you have misconceptions
about CLAO I posted a small gif that may interest you taken during 
a sit-in :-) The words on the banner are not too clear, but I'll help you:
"Lebanon for the Lebanese: Syria out, Israel out, Iran out".

Come to think of it, its us who are out :-).

Regards, Elie.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: saleham@cauchy.mcs.clarkson.edu (Anwar M. Saleh)
Subject: Re: slaves.gif: INFO
Reply-To: saleham@cauchy.mcs.clarkson.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:18:37 GMT

elie@hdtv.njit.edu (...NADINE...):
>
> Caption:
>
> "Negroes of Hejaz Outside their Miserable Home Built of Dirty Rags and
>  Ropes"
>
> There are many negroes in Arabia, some of whom are actuially slaves. Most
> of them are the descendants of slaves brought in the past from the near-by
> African coast. When we compare this negro home, so untidy, so dark and
> airless within, with the lofty substantial Arab houses beyond, which
> appear rather modern, we understand how low is the degree of culture
> to which these people have attained. It is in the shape of the beehive
> huts so common in Africa, and its walls are formed of odd fragments
> of sacking and rags and felt held together by ropes.

  It seems that you are happy in Newark, NJ. Look through the window 
  and see what is around.
   
  Would you please post gif files from where you are and from Bergin
  county, NJ (20 minutes away). 
  
  When talk is about cultures, you better talk about where you are. 
  Go and see Harlem and Manhattan. 
  
  I can not beleive that some one in Newark, Paterson, Jersy City, West 
  New York or Elizabeth or Hoboken all are surounded by Bergin County
  White Planes Long Island's $5 million houses ...etc, is talking about
  cultures. 
  
  If you are blind to see the Subway and Port Authoroty residents, if
  you failed to see the shelters, the homels in the cold of January,
  the south Americans slaves around you, if you are so blind, if your
  hate to Arabs is killing you, then you better seek help. 
  
  Do you know that in this country there are an estimated 7 million
  illegal aliens who are living in hiding? that means no rights. 
  
  I did not bother to view your pictures because I saw tons of American
  slaves in Amercian Land. I don't need gif files, I see tons of them  
  in Newark and New York. 
  
  It is you who walk to NJIT, login and read news, talk about cultures 
  and forget those at your doorstep.
  
  Conclusion: You are a hopeless case. 
  
 
  Anwar Saleh

Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: jrad@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (ahmad.m.jrad)
Subject: Re: goodlife.gif: INFO
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:21:10 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.132551.27159@njitgw.njit.edu>, elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad) writes:
> (This is from 1930, please don't flame me)
> 
> "The kubbet el sakhra"
> 
> Or the Dome of the Rock, which was built by the Arabs in the 7th century
> is commonly but incorrectly referred to as the Mosque of Omar.
> Mohammedans believe that here the souls of sinners will be weighed on
  ^^^^^^^^^^^
> Judgment Day.


I would like to request that Muslims be called by their proper name
(i.e., Muslims) and not be called after the name of the Prophet
Muhammed (sAas). Muhammed is but a man. We worship only one God and
to him only are we Muslims.

Such nomenclature is either ignorant of what Islam truly is
or if done knowingly and purposefully, it is offensive.

This is a general comment and not specifically to Eli since he is only
quoting another source. However, we have no need to hear what such sources
have to say. As I pointed out, they could only be:

a- Ignorant of Islam, so who cares to share their ignorance?
b- Anti-Islamists, in which case they will say anything to profane our
   noble religion. And who cares to hear their lies?

BTW. who said that Muslims believe that the souls will be weighed 
there? This is news to me, and I still don't believe unless someone
can produce convincing proof.

Ahmad
From: bh437292@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (Basil Hamdan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: European Parliament and the Lebanese legislative elections
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:47:32 GMT
Reply-To: bh437292@lance.colostate.edu
Organization: Engineering College, Colorado State University

In article <29JUL199218452707@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu>,
csc_alex@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (ALEXANDRE KHALIL) writes:
>
> >>How about a common message?
> > 
> >I suggest that we package european parliament resolution in a letter
addressed
> >to the UN/White-house/state-dept/..  enticing them to do the same.
> 
> Cheers to that.
> 
> Any suggestion for a text that most of us will agree on ?
> 
> >I can supply the mailing addresses.
> >
> >bassem
> 
> alex

I agree with Bassem and Alex, I would be willing to co-author
the draft of the letter to be addressed primarily to the UN
if Bassem and Alex would like let's join in writing a draft
soon since as others have observed time is running out.

Basil
From: nmouawad@waterloo.edu (Naji Mouawad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: Brotherhood, why not ?.
Date: 31 Jul 92 02:15:01 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo


Salut Ibaa,

  Ce n'etait guere mon intention de te tenir a l'ecart ou de
t'interdire l'accet a s.c.l. Il se peut que mon message est ete par un
peu trop sec et qu'il est en effet laisse croire que telle etait mon
le cas.

  En fait, je crois qu'il ne m'est pas possible de m'exprimer sur un
sujet qui me touche de si pres sans laisser paraitre une trop vive
emotion. Je te presente donc mes excuses les plus plates et te
souhaite la bienvenuue parmis nous.

  Un grand nuage noir c'est accumule au-dessus de mon pays. L'orage va
etre pour bientot et je suis si loin. Hafez veux construire
aujourd'hui une Syrie sur un cimetierre. Tout ce qu'il en resultera ne
sera que ruines sur ruines. Il ne restera rien de ce grand reve
d'union, rien qu'un peu de sables mornes aux confins du desert.

 De ceci je suis sur. Ma foi dans cette verite n'est pas ebranlee par
toutes ces annees de guerres, de massacres et de tueries. 

 Ce qui est terrible pour toute la region c'est de voir assassiner ce
Liban qui representait tant pour tous. Comme l'a si bien dit Amin
Maalouf, "il y a plus de grandeur dans notre defaite que dans toutes
les reussites des dictatures voisines". Le Liban etait signe d'espoir.
Un certain Liban comme aurait dit ce grand visionaire de Gibran. 

 Assad et ses acolytes Syriens et Libanais s'acharnent a le tuer. Ils
sont fils des tenebres et ils ne connaissent que ce qui vient du pere
du mensonge. Homicide il etait, homicides ils le sont. C'est terrible
de les voirs s'enfermer dans une cage, une chaine au cou. 

 Il se fait tard, Ibaa.

Bois un verre a ma sante si tu bois et sinon un air d'une chanson.

naji.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: Ron.Feigen@panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen)
Subject: Re: jokes
Organization: Motorola New Enterprises
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 20:06:44 MST

In article <1992Jul24.160406.13517@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> jrad@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (ahmad.m.jrad) writes:
>In article <NMOUAWAD.92Jul21122205@math.waterloo.edu>, nmouawad@waterloo.edu (Naji Mouawad) writes:
>> In article <37314@imag.imag.fr> oueichek@ngulu (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:
>> 
>>    eliedw@hedda.uio.no (Elie Dib Wardini) writes:
>>    : In article <37221@imag.imag.fr> oueichek@ngulu (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:
>>    : 
>>    : 
>>    : >  Mr Elie, spare us your flames, we are all brothers, even if "feel"

< stuff deleted>

>Besides All Muslims are brothers regardless of national origin. Though
>I may be making an assumption here about the religion of our Syrian
>brother.
>
>Ahmad

I would hope that perhaps brotherhood would not be bound by religious 
affilations, but instead be extendend to all men.  In fact we are all 
brothers, it's just that some of us don't know it yet.

Please say hello to Mom for me :-)


>
Ron Feigen
ronf@panther.mot.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: borrel@sigallah.dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen)
Subject: Bonfil pictures gif postings on liasun3.epfl.ch
Reply-To: borrel@sigallah.dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen)
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 09:39:27 GMT



A selection of scans of photographs of Beirut and Lebanon from the last  
century, courtesy of the Harvard Semitic Museum's Bonfil collection have  
been made available on liasun3.epfl.ch users/choueiry/Bonfils

-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      209409 Jul 30 17:06 Beyrouth10B6.gif
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      288553 Jul 31 01:40 Beyrouth10B6.uu
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      193623 Jul 30 17:08 Beyrouth3G7.gif
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      266802 Jul 31 01:41 Beyrouth3G7.uu
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      178801 Jul 30 17:08 Beyrouth3G9.gif
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      246384 Jul 31 01:41 Beyrouth3G9.uu
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      217397 Jul 30 17:09 DeirElKamar3G11.gif
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      299564 Jul 31 01:42 DeirElKamar3G11.uu
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      212507 Jul 30 17:09 Hasbayah2E10.gif
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      292823 Jul 31 01:42 Hasbayah2E10.uu
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      205875 Jul 30 17:10 Sidon2E3.gif
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      283679 Jul 31 01:43 Sidon2E3.uu
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      178476 Jul 30 17:11 Sidon2E4.gif
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      245931 Jul 31 01:43 Sidon2E4.uu
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      177952 Jul 30 17:11 Sidon9E5Stereo.gif
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      245217 Jul 31 01:44 Sidon9E5Stereo.uu
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      225165 Jul 30 17:12 Tripoli4A4.gif
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      310259 Jul 31 01:45 Tripoli4A4.uu
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      214576 Jul 30 17:12 Tyr2E2.gif
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      295669 Jul 31 01:46 Tyr2E2.uu
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      178391 Jul 30 17:13 Zahle3F3.gif
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      245815 Jul 31 01:46 Zahle3F3.uu
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia        6799 Jul 31 10:00 bonfils.msg

Please note that the captions on the scans are the actual handwritten  
titles of the pictures. Your are also requested to read the bonfils.msg  
file. These images are the copyright of the Harvard Semitic Museum and  
published for research purposes only.

- Barre Ludvigsen
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: eliedw@ulrik.uio.no (Elie Dib Wardini)
Subject: Re: Lebanon and Syria: once and for all
Organization: Univerity of Oslo, Semitics dep.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 09:34:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.064842.19340@news.clarkson.edu>
saleham@right.clarkson.edu (Anwar M. Saleh) writes:
>
>nmouawad@waterloo.edu (Naji Mouawad) writes:
>>
>> Let it be said once and for all: no historical facts, no engraved
>> writing, no orders from the heavens of Time, no thunder from the
>> rulers will force us to accept what we refuse.
>>
>> Syria is today a country ruled by a blood-thirsty regime. This regime
>                           *****
>  This is OK. Talk about rulers and you got my support. What we saw 
>  was not about Asad but Syrians. Jokes were rewritten against  
>  Syrians (the victims of the blood-thirsty regime as you said).
>   

THere are many Syrians that have posted on SCL, I am still waiting to read one
of them telling us how sorry he/she is for the way their Dictator is treating
Lebanon and the Lebanese.

I know that SCL is not representative, and that not all who read SCL write on
SCL.

Yet at least to those who post, how many of them are there who have condemned
the actions of the Syrian government in Lebanon?

I have condennmed Assad's actions against the Syrians many times! I make it a
point whenver I come in contact with peole who deal with the Middle EAst to
point to the repressive nature of Assad's regime, especially against his own
population.

Tell me how many Syrians respect the fact that most Lebanese do not want to
unite with Syria?

or do they just suppose that we have fallen for the imperialist propaganda?

>
>  Anwar Saleh
>
>

elie wardini
From: borrel@sigallah.dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen)
Subject: Beirut Panorama 1875 (TIFF)
Keywords: Beirut,panorama,Bonfils,TIFF,scan,GIF,Lebanon
Reply-To: borrel@sigallah.dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen)
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:47:52 GMT

A new, larger and better scan of the Bonfils panorama of Beirut from ca.  
1875 is now available as /users/choueiry/beirut.panorama.large.tiff on the  
server liasun3.epfl.ch. It's fairly large (1079556) but worth it. The scan  
is from the Harvard Semitic Museum's poster from their exhibition "Beirut  
and Lebanon, pictures from the last century".

- Barre Ludvigsen (borrel@dhhalden.no)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: hani@ephedra.engin.umich.edu (Hani Abinassif)
Subject: Re: European Parliament and the Lebanese legislative elections
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 18:26:16 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: hani@ephedra.engin.umich.edu


In article <-KV-dv#@engin.umich.edu>, hani@ephedra.engin.umich.edu (Hani Abinassif) writes:

> Would this same thing happen this elections?  Of course it will...
> I am defending the Syrians.  But we did not have any presence of any
      ^
OOOOPS! This should read "I am not defending the Syrians"...
I know someone who will think I am, even if the NOT was there:-)
-Hani
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: jrad@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (ahmad.m.jrad)
Subject: Re: jokes
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:04:06 GMT

In article <NMOUAWAD.92Jul21122205@math.waterloo.edu>, nmouawad@waterloo.edu (Naji Mouawad) writes:
> In article <37314@imag.imag.fr> oueichek@ngulu (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:
> 
>    eliedw@hedda.uio.no (Elie Dib Wardini) writes:
>    : In article <37221@imag.imag.fr> oueichek@ngulu (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:
>    : 
>    : 
>    : >  Mr Elie, spare us your flames, we are all brothers, even if "feel"
>    :                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>    : 
>    : who are you?
>    : 
>      And that's all what you have to say ?. Didn't you understand that i was
>    Syrian ?.
>    : 
> 
> 
> 
> With all due respect, I would like to suggest to Mr Ibaa Oueicheck a
> little more restraints in his writing on this group. The Syrian
> presence in Lebanon is an extreemly sensitive issue to many readers of
> this group. 
> 
> While we all understand that the Syrian people as a whole are
> suffering under the regime of Hafez el assad, one is reminded of the
> 40,000 or so Syrian soldiers who are serving in Lebanon and who are
> enforcing the Syrian's law onto the Lebanese.
> 
> Under circumstances such as these, I doubt that the use of the word
> "brothers" is in any way constructive. 
> 
> When the Israeli forces, the Syrian forces, the Iranian forces, the
> Palestinian forces and every other foreign force would have left
> Lebanon, we might consider talking about brotherhood.
> 
> Until then, let us try and build friendship.
> 
> Naji.

With all due respect to Naji, I think that we ought to make a distinction
between the Syrian people and their government. I think that the Syrians
are brothers with the Lebanese on the people level. The cultures are very
much related and the land was all called Sham until quite recently.

Besides All Muslims are brothers regardless of national origin. Though
I may be making an assumption here about the religion of our Syrian
brother.

Ahmad
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: haidar@ces.cwru.edu (H. Harmanani)
Subject: Re: Analysis of What Fouad Ajami says
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science/CWRU
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 17:05:55 GMT

In article <3607@keele.keele.ac.uk> phd21@seq1.kl.ac.uk (A. Jaber)
writes:

[much stuff deleted]

>	About the Khomeinist connection in his article those are his
>	words:" To my work on modern Arab politics I must have brought
>	the truth bequethed me by the small Shiat world I had been born
>	into. The Shiats were the step Children of the Arab world. In
>	its principal cities they were strangers, a people of the
>	country side. To its Sunni Orthodox they were Sectarians."

I fail to see the relation between what Ajami said and his being
pro-khomeini.  As a matter of fact, Ajami is very much anti Khomeini
unless what he says on CBS does not count.  You seem to confuse the
issue of minorities fear in the Middle East with the issue of Iran.

>A Jaber



-- 
H. Harmanani (haidar@alpha.ces.cwru.edu)
Dept. of Computer Engineering
Crawford Hall 215C
Case Western Reserve U