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From: peterw@spider.co.uk (Peter Woodhouse)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Results/Tables (07/04/92) **LONG**
Keywords: It's my birthday tomorrow (09/04/92). I'll be 20.
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:28:01 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <4zghbcgn@cck.coventry.ac.uk> lah014@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Richard J. Marshall) writes:
>Division 3
>----------
>DARLINGTON 1            BRADFORD CITY 3
>Steve Mardenborough 43  Tony McCarthy 29,31      Darlington relegated
>att: 1,946              Lee/Mick(?) Duxbury 82
>
>Stoke        41  20 12  9  65 43  72  +22
>Birmingham   39  19 12  8  61 42  69  +19
>-----------------------------------------
>Stockport    41  20  8 13  69 49  68  +20
>Brentford    41  20  7 14  67 53  67  +14
>Leyton O     40  18 11 11  58 42  65  +16
>Huddersfld   41  18 11 12  49 36  65  +13
>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>Bournemouth  40  18 10 12  46 39  64  + 7
>WBA          41  17 12 12  57 46  63  +11
>Peterboro    39  17 11 11  54 51  62  + 3
>Fulham       41  15 13 13  48 46  58  + 2
>Hartlepool   40  17  7 16  52 52  58    0
>Bolton       39  13 15 11  50 45  54  + 5
>Swansea      40  14 12 14  51 54  54  - 3
>Exeter       40  14 10 16  51 62  52  -11
>Bradford     41  11 18 12  56 55  51  + 1
>Wigan        40  13 12 15  49 56  51  - 7
>Reading      39  12 12 15  43 52  48  - 9
>Hull         40  12 11 17  44 49  47  - 5
>Preston      40  12 11 17  52 63  47  -11
>Chester      41  11 13 17  51 57  46  - 6
>-----------------------------------------
>Bury         40  11 10 19  49 67  43  -18
>Shrewsbury   41  10 11 20  46 59  41  -13
>Torquay      40  11  7 22  35 53  40  -18
>DARLINGTON   41   9  6 26  49 81  33  -32

Darlington aren't quite down YET.  The Quakers have 5 games to go = 15 points.
We should end up mid table :-)

Howay the lads

Peter

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From: ap63@woodstock.umd.edu (Jurgen Klinsmann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: S.F. Blackhawks - UNAM Pumas ?
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:23:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

Anyone in the Bay area who attended this match know the result? How did
the Blackhawks play? Mini match report? Thanks alot!

-Klinsi

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From: jaz29707@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim Zimmerman - Twin Peaks \ MST3K MEGAFAN  -)
Subject: News about WC warmups in Chicago?????
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 15:48:08 GMT

Has anybody heard anything more about the games between US and Portugal
and US and Italy???
	These games are scheduled to take place on June 3 and 6 at Soldier
	Field, but I called 1-800-usa-goal for tickets and they still haven't
	heard a thing.  Where can I get tickets for these matches?????
	Also--when will WC 94' tickets start going on sale, I know the final
	sites (who is playing where) has not been announced, but when will it?
	
	Clueless about tickets---
					Jim Zimmerman
					-finally real football in the US!!!!!g
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From: asim@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Asim Omair)
Subject: Re: MAN UNITED
Keywords: MIDWEEK
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin Tx.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 14:45:36 GMT

In article <9210710.5022@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> gps@ecr.mu.oz.au (Gavin_Paul SMITH) writes:
>Any mid-week results for the Manchester United Game ?
>MAN. UNITED 1992 LEAGUE CHAMPIONS (i hope ??!?!?)

I believe they are playing at home against Southampton today (16th).
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From: asim@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Asim Omair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: World Cup 94 - Shirts
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:16:52 GMT
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin Tx.

In article <1992Apr10.013621.5357@acsu.buffalo.edu> khoub-s@cs.buffalo.edu writes
>In article <JVawiB9w164w@banana.ithaca.ny.us>, henning@banana.ithaca.ny.us (Henning Pape-Santos) writes:
>|> Seriously, is there any problem with the described shirts? I would 
>|> like it if players wore their names on the back. (Granted, I do 
>|> not know all the players likely to appear in the WC just by 
>|> looking at them. Do you? then more power to you, but give us 
>|> ignoramuses a break.)
>
>I think you have a good point here.  This change could have the benifit 
>of helping to promote the sport in the US.  It may help to create soccer
>heros (for a change!)  People will learn the name of the stars, and can
>refer to them by name, rather than "that guy on the xxxxx team".
>
>-- Siamak
>
I am not against the proposed style of shirts, but I guess people in Europe and
other countries, where they take football as a serious sport, already know the
names of most of the players (I know this, because I lived in Malta for three
years) and for them it wouldn't be any useful. As for me, I have been out of
touch of international football for about two and a half years (I came to USA
in September 1989) and don't know the names of most of the players on the 
international scene - although I know a few of them from watching the 1990 world
cup - but I am sure that if I watch a game or two I can recognize the players
from the position they play at. But again, for this you have to understand the
rules of football, which most of the American is unaware of.
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SOCCER  :                        Manchester United (England)/Bryan Robson
TENNIS  :                        Stefan Edberg and Steffi Graf
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From: amanning@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning)
Subject: Re: Correct Title = VICTORY
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Atmospheric Chemistry
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:43:26 GMT

In article <72989@netnews.upenn.edu> zabinski@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (EZ) writes:
>In article  20637, st912880@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>>Yes, I agree it's a great movie. I've seen it a few times and have not grown
>>tired of it yet. But the correct title of the movie is 'Escape to Victory.'
>>JTKE
>
>I do not mean to be persistent, but, in fact, the actual title of the
>movie is "VICTORY". I am holding it here in my hand (an "original"
>copy - not one off of television). It was produced by Freddie Fields,

Sorry, but I agree with JTKE, the movie I saw was called Escape to Victory.
Obviously what probably happened is it was released under different names
in different countries. I have known this to happen on several other
occasions. So either title is right, depending on where you are.

Andrew M.
From: archer@hsi86.hsi.com (Garry Archer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Football at the movies etc.
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:00:25 GMT
Reply-To: archer@hsi86.hsi.com.com (Garry Archer)
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford

In article <HANS.92Mar31150325@ravn.iesd.auc.dk> hans@iesd.auc.dk (Hans Huttel) writes:

Hello there Hans.  Nice to see you posting!  (Hans did all the work to
get rec.sport.soccer created)


>The other day I was trying to find out if there were any interesting
>works of fiction (films, plays, novels etc.) where football plays an
>essential part. Oodly enough, off the top of my head I could think of
>very few actual examples.

I read a fictional account years and years ago about how football hooliganism
evolved into civil war in England.  I don't remember the name of the book
or the author.  It was well written and intelligently conceived.

The theme was based on the ever increasing rise of hooliganism in England
in the 1970s.  By the time of the period the book was based, to go to a
"match" meant to actually go to a battle.  The "league" dropped to only
four or five teams where the fans absolutely hated each other.  The teams
split into two regions.  The North (dominated by a team called "The Reds"
-- Manchester United or Liverpool?) and The South (dominated by a team
called "The Whites" -- I clearly remember these were evolved from Tottenham
Hotspur who are currently also known as The Lily Whites).  The dividing
line between the regions was roughly east-west through Oxford --- about
the same as the real English Civil war of Oliver Cromwell's period.

The book vividly recounted scenes of violence:  Fans killed, vehicles burnt,
houses pillaged, police with no control, police shooting blindly into crowds.
It was scary because violence due to soccer has actually erupted like this at 
various places all over the world.

It really made you think how stupid football hooliganism really is...

Sorry I can't remember the name of the book.



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=========| Gresley Rovers Football Club ("The Moatmen"), founded 1882 |=========
From: tim@tcom.stc.co.uk (Tim Kennedy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: New Leeds Record
Date: 14 Apr 92 08:22:15 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe


Leeds have a new single out which features the greatest of all
football songs,  Leeds Leeds Leeds (Marching On Together) in
the original 1972 version and in a remixed 1992 version with
a Soul 2 Soul beat and samples of Batty scoring against Man
City at Elland Road in the 3-0 win earlier this season,  and
the Leeds fans singing.

The song was recorded by the Leeds team that won the 1972 FA
Cup,  beating Arsenal at Wembley by one goal to nil.  

Leeds Leeds Leeds (Marching On Together) is distributed by 
APT and has the code LUFC02.  I got it in Our Price, Walthamstow
so it should be easy to get hold of.

			Tim
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the alltime greatest single.  Way ahead of | Dept 30730 NME, BNR Europe,
Strawberry Fields and Stairway To Heaven,  | Oakleigh Rd South, London N11 1HB.
at no. 1 was I Owe You Nothing by Bros.    | LUFC, Yorkshire's No. 1.
From: billp@pcsbst.pcs.com (Bill Potter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: RESULT Scotland-Germany (U21)
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:35:30 GMT
Reply-To: billp@pcsbst.pcs.com (Bill Potter)
Organization: PCS Computer Systeme GmbH

In article <1992Apr2.152137.21913@daimi.aau.dk>, rorschak@daimi.aau.dk
(Jesper Lauridsen) writes:
> 
>   Time to get this straight! The U21 European Championship semifinals
> will be Denmark - Italy and Sweden - Scotland. The final will then be
> Denmark - Scotland.
> 
> -- 
> |Jesper Lauridsen        |  Liverpool FC - 18xChampions, 4xCup Winner,    |

Thanks Jesper for putting the record straight but you forgot to mention
the winner of the final will be Scotland. 

Just helping you out.
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Bill Potter    : unido!pcsbst!billp       : 1992 - 500th Anniv. of a lost
PCS GmbH       : billp@pcsbst.pcs.com     : Italian sailor and 200th Anniv.
D8000 Muenchen : You can't sink a RAINBOW : of the year of the sheep.
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From: visconm@fog.CS.ORST.EDU (Marcello Visconti)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Copa Libertadores - Update
Date: 8 Apr 92 06:01:47 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.


	Copa Libertadores - Group 2 - Brazil/Bolivia
	--------------------------------------------

	Previous results (first team is home team): 
	
		Criciuma 3 - Sao Paulo 0
		Bolivar 2 - San Jose 1
		San Jose 0 - Sao Paulo 3
		Bolivar 1 - Sao Paulo 1
		San Jose 1 - Criciuma 2
		Bolivar 1 - Criciuma 1
		Sao Paulo 4 - Criciuma 0
		San Jose 2 - Bolivar 4

	Tuesday April 7th:

		Sao Paulo 1 - San Jose 1

	Games left:

		Criciuma - San Jose
		Sao Paulo - Bolivar
		Criciuma - Bolivar

	Table
	-----

	Team		Pts	W  T  L  GF-GA
	--------------------------------------

	Bolivar   (BOL) 6 	2  2  0   8-5     * To second round
	San Paulo (BRA) 6	2  2  1   9-5     * To second round 
	Criciuma  (BRA) 5	2  1  1   6-6     * To second round 
	San Jose  (BOL) 1	0  1  4   5-12    * Eliminated

Bye,

Marcello.

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From: creuter@iodine.Berkeley.EDU (Christoph Georg Reuter)
Subject: Re: German Soccer Weekly on ESPN
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:43:04 GMT

NO, NO, NO !!!!!!!!!

====> POST IT,  there are a lot of people on the net who would like to
                know when and where to get german soccer on TV

and if you get a mail answer ==> please POST it! 

regards 

cgr

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From: orhan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Orhan Mehmet Arsel)
Subject: Re: Turkey - Denmark  2-1 (1-0)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 23:38:38 GMT

In article <FISCHER.92Apr8215847@thor.iesd.auc.dk> fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer) writes:
>
>Friendly played Ankara, Turkey, April 8:
>
>   Turkey - Denmark  2-1 (1-0)
>      1-0 ??? (32)
>      1-1 Elstrup (74)
>      2-1 ??? (87)
>
>Turkey get their first home victory under Sepp Piontek, while the


 Can you possibly comment on how the Turkish team played in general?
Thanks in advance.

Orhan.
From: mjf@cns.umist.ac.uk (Martin Ford)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Manchester Derby
Keywords: Bruce, bollox
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:12:36 GMT
Organization: UMIST, Manchester, England.

connollj@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Bruce's Tackles) writes:

>Man United       1 : 1       Man City
>=====================================
>Giggs                        Curle (pen)

>Oh dear, we had it sewn up and then Brucey decides the best thing to do was
>to chop down David White in the box when he was going nowhere. To be fair to
>Bruce I think he was going for the ball but White touched it out of the way
>and said, "cheers Brucey we'll have a pen for that!".

Yup, nice one Brucey. He should have known White would have gone no
where with the ball anyway :-)

>Highlight of the match must have been Giggs' superb 20 odd yard left foot 
>strike and Neil Pointon's Bruce Lee impression on Ryan Giggs which led to him
>being sent off.

Giggs' goal was a good one, but Peter Reid should have been asking
questions how a predominantly left sided player could cut onto his
left peg and still be left un-challenged to launched that superb
strike.
Neil Pointon was deservedly sent off for his stomach high lunge but
some sort of action should have been taken about Giggs' dangerous foul
minutes before (IMHO it certainly merited a booking). A booking then
may have prevented the retaliation. In which case City would have had
11 men and still played cr*p, enabling Man U to win the match quite easily.

>(sigh) 1-0 up against 10 men and the game ends up a draw, bit of a giveaway
>really but that's life. Never mind we'll still win the championship.

With some better finishing by White (how can a professional miss an
easy volley from six yards), City could have stolen the result. I
think a draw was a fair result on the night. As for United winning the
Championship, it's going to be who can hold their nerve the longest.

And as the city supporters were chanting:

10 men
you couldn't beat 10 men
you couldn't beat 10 men
you couldn't beat 10 men

>Jon

>-- 
>=================================================================
>|  Jon Connolly                |  *** MANCHESTER UNITED FC ***  |
>|  connollj@uk.ac.man.cs.p4    |       **** 1991/92 ****        |
>=================================================================


Cheers
 
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From: aksimha@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Arun Simha)
Subject: Re: Football at the movies/tv
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:20:55 GMT



  ..and who can forget the hilarious Germans vs Greeks in the Monty Python
    skit? Confucius was the referee!

  Arun
From: bogstad@imhfhp16.epfl.ch (BOGSTAD Mark IMHEF DME EPFL)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Who died in Spain ?
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:12:59 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

Yesterday I saw the last part of a funeral on T.V., in Spain with
many football players attending. I didn't quite catch the story
but I saw many Real Madrid players and also Leo Beenhakker.
Can someone fill me in what's happend.

Mark Bogstad
email bogstad@dme.epfl.ch
 


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From: pmullins@cs.ulowell.edu ([Irish Harp])
Subject: Re: Liverpool lucky...
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:31:41 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.234807.13192@psych.toronto.edu> paulf@psych.toronto.edu (Paul Frankland) writes:
>Liverpool beat Portsmouth on penelties after a goaless draw
>at Villa Park. The score in penelties was 3-1.
>Lucky bastards.
>(semi-final replay, FA cup)
>Paul Franklnad
>toronto

Who is Liverpool playing in the final?????

PGM
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 There's an ocean in between,
 The Irish Sea is to your back, An tOilean Ur is to mine,
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From: miller@loral.cts.com (BIG DAVE)
Subject: Brazil: week ending April 12, 1992.
Organization: Loral Instrumentation
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 19:54:12 GMT

Well, Mondays are soccer days ... the 13th round of the Campeonato Nacional
was marked by a game that promised a lot and ended up delivering almost
nothing: the match between the first two top placed teams, Vasco x Botafogo.
Around 90 thousand fans when to the Maracana~ and saw midfielder Chicao, of
Botafogo, miss a penalty shot six minutes into the match. Five minutes later,
Chicao tried one more shot to the goal; missed but Renato Gaucho was there to
convert on a header. At the 30 minute mark, Vasco tied via an off balanced 
shot from defender Tinho. That shot was actually from a ball rebounded off the
Botafogo defense. But Botafogo insisted on, playing better and forcing the Vasco
defense to commit a penalty (which was not granted) latter on. They missed on
great chances and eventually let their guard down as Bebeto, as usual, went on
to score the tie-breaker on the 37th minute of the second half. Final result:
Vasco 2X1 Botafogo. Vasco is now the absolute leader on the classification
tables and has practically guaranteed itself a place amongst the eight 
finalists. The loss was not a big disaster for 'Bota' which is still confor-
tably in second place.

At the Pacaembu, Sao Paulo, 40 thousand Conrinthians' fans saw their team be
surprised by FLAMENGO, which after going through a bad phase seems now to be
on the road to recuperating its old form. FLAMENGO went up 3X0 on the first
half and only allowed a goal against it almost at the end of the match.
The Sao Paulo won another one: 1X0 against Fluminense. This ought to help it 
get a place among the 8 finalists qualifying for the next round. But, as you
can see below, the competition is pretty though and there's still some time
left for plenty of teams to fall in and out of the final 8 list !!

Results from the 13th Round:

Santos     0x0  Atletico-MG
Sao Paulo  1x0  Fluminense
Vasco      2x1  Botafogo
Corintians 1x3  Flamengo
Payssandu  3x0  Guarani
Sport      0x1  Bahia
Cruzeiro   0x0  Nautico
Palmeiras  2x0  Portuguesa

Bragantino x Goias, and Inter x Atletico-PR play Monday PM.

Current classifications: Teams marked with (*) are one game behind:

1) Vasco, 21 points
2) Botafogo, 18
3) Bragantino(*), 17
4) Corintians, 16
5) Inter(*) e Santos, 15
7) Cruzeiro, Sao Paulo e Flamengo, 14
10) Fluminense e Sport, 13
12) Guarani, 12
13) Goias(*), 11
14) Atletico-PR(*) e Bahia, 10
16) Payssandu, Palmeiras e Nautico, 9
19) Atletico-MG e Portuguesa, 8

E' isso ai'

					ze luiz, do rio
                                         zeluiz@brlncc

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From: dtb@squonk.Eng.Sun.COM (David Berry)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Football at the movies etc.
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:46:53 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: squonk

In article <ku1hc4INNsar@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> dtb@squonk.Eng.Sun.COM (David Berry) writes:
>In article <HANS.92Mar31150325@ravn.iesd.auc.dk> hans@iesd.auc.dk (Hans Huttel) writes:
>>
>>...and now over to something completely different:
>>

>There was one in which some spoilt brat (American as it happens, but
>it could have been any nationality) goes off to a desert island and
>learns about life the universe and overhead bicyle kicks from Pele.
                                             ^^^^^^

>of course becomes a better person and scores the winner with an
>overhead bicyle kick. I can't remember the title, but it wasn't worth
          ^^^^^^

OK so I can't spell, bicycle is what I really meant of course. I even
managed to spell it correctly later on.



--
David Berry, david.berry@sun.com

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