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From: todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams)
Subject: Re: Backspace key in Interleaf 4.0 on a SUN4.
Summary: xmodmap
Organization: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 19:26:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.181923.22232@software.org> antonson@software.org (Todd S. Antonson) writes:
>Sun IPC Workstation / SunOS 4.1.1 / Interleaf 4.0 (TPS4.0)
> [stuff deleted]
>Is there any way relative to Interleaf to redefine the use of these keys?
>(e.g., cause Ileaf to recognize Alt or Meta as the `backspace' control key)

Well, you could use xmodmap(1).  That's what we do here, so that our ileaf5.3
users who are used to "having a (delete-the-character-to-the-RIGHT) key
on the right side of the keyboard"

Note that this is NOT a "within Interleaf" solution -- xmodmap will change
the keys for the whole operating system.

I don't have the time or space here to explain xmodmap, but here's an example:

In a user's .xinitrc file:

	# modify keyboard mappings using info in .xmodmaprc file
	xmodmap .xmodmaprc

In the user's .xmodmaprc file:

	!
	!       .xmodmaprc file -- keyboard mappings
	!
	!               have xmodmap source this file in your .xinirc via:
	!                       xmodmap .xmodmaprc
	!
	!=====================================================================
	!
	!       Install function key "F1" as an Open Look "Help" key
	!        (This precludes its use by applications--If your applications
	!        use F1 for anything else, comment out the following line)
	!
	keysym F1 = Help
	!---------------------------------------------------------------------
	!
	!       Make "Del" key on right hand keypad (keycode 57)
	!	perform function of "Cut/L10" key ("F20")
	!
	keycode 57 = F20
	!---------------------------------------------------------------------

-- 
Todd Williams    UNIX Systems Coordinator     todd@macsch.com    (213) 259-4973
MacNeal-Schwendler Corp. ("MSC"),  815 Colorado Blvd.,  Los Angeles, CA   90041
"The Democrats stand for nothing except 'I wish I was a Republican' and the
Republicans stand for raw, unbridled evil and greed and ignorance smothered
in balloons and ribbons."  -Frank Zappa, 1991  (Zappa for president!)
From: samlb@optilink.UUCP (Sam Bassett)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Frame --> Interleaf Filter?
Summary: Is  there such a thing?
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:46:39 GMT
Organization: DSC/Optilink Access Products


	Header says it all -- e-mail or posting greatly appreciated.

-- 
Sam'l Bassett -- System Administrator 	      (among other silly things)
Work: DSC/Optilink, 1310-C Redwood Wy, Petaluma CA 94954; 1-707-792-7253
Internet: samlb@optilink.com 		      UUCP: uunet!optilink!samlb
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: lauretta@Aus.Sun.COM (Lauretta Adcock)
Subject: A&NZ Flags
Organization: Sun Microsystems - Australia
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 23:08:16 GMT

Can anyone please help?


Does someone creative out there have an Interleaf (preferably not a
scanned image but will do if thats all that is available) copy of the
Australian and New Zealand Flag they could share with me.

Please email me.

Thank you,
Lauretta
Sun Microsystemseal
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams)
Subject: Re: Passwords by FAX suck!  [was: Re: Complaint about Interleaf Germany's Support Policies
Organization: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 18:10:56 GMT

(forgive me for following-up my own follow-up, oh net.gods...)

In article <1992Sep26.011714.23102@draco.macsch.com> todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams) writes:
>In article <1992Sep25.074948.8376@rcvie.co.at> cc_paul@rcvie.co.at (Wolf N. Paul) writes:
>>So we have here a company which 
>>	(c) will not communicate with it customers in the most natural
>>		way common in a UNIX environment, namely E-Mail.
>
>YES!  I have had very few "official" email exchanges with ileaf, and NONE
>with anyone in my local office.  And there's no official "support@ileaf.com"
>address that I know of.

Interleaf informs me that I CAN email to support@ileaf.com to open a call.
I'll try that next time.

>>	(d) sends out its "Password Documents" as illegible
>>		FAXes rather than per E-Mail (which would allow one to
>>		cut and paste the passwords rather than having to decipher...

Someone just mentioned that they were given the email option for passwords
recently.  If *I* don't get that option next time I need passwords, you'll
hear from me...

-- 
Todd Williams    UNIX Systems Coordinator     todd@macsch.com    (213) 259-4973
MacNeal-Schwendler Corp. ("MSC"),  815 Colorado Blvd.,  Los Angeles, CA   90041
"The Democrats stand for nothing except 'I wish I was a Republican' and the
Republicans stand for raw, unbridled evil and greed and ignorance smothered
in balloons and ribbons."  -Frank Zappa, 1991  (Zappa for president!)
From: ccirsa@uta.fi (Irja Satri)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: EPSF in Interleaf 5.3
Date: 29 Sep 92 11:00:39 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

Hello!

I have a file created in ileaf version 5.2. The file contains 
an EPSF part, which was copied and pasted to my interleaf document. 
I had no problems in printing that document until we got ileaf 5.3.
With version 5.3 I have not succeeded to print that document.
Printer's log-file includes message

   %%[ Error: stackunderflow; OffendingCommand: exch ]%%

The epsf file contains hundreds of exch-commands, but printing only
the epsf file is ok. The first line in the epsf file is
%!PS-Adobe-2.0 EPSF-1.2

Can anyone please help me?

      ^^           Irja Satri		System analyst
     (--)   email  ccirsa@uta.fi	Computer Centre
    (   )                               University of Tampere
ooo(__!!)   fax   +358 31 156162        Finland
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams)
Subject: Re: Question: starting ileaf5 with clock window
Organization: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 01:21:00 GMT

In article <8236@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> chinkao@babbage.seas.ucla.edu (Chin C. Kao) writes:
>How do I get the clock .... everytime Interleaf is started?

Copy the Clock.lsp lisp program to your profile drawer:

For UNIX types:
	% cp /interleaf/ileaf5/english.cab/Custom.cab/No_Selection.cab\
	/Misc.drw/Clock.lsp ~/desktop/System5.cab/Custom.cab/profile.drw

	(note that the above is one line, and that I broke the pathname
	in the middle)

For Interleaf types:
	open System5->Custom->No_Selection->Misc
	copy the Clock lisp icon
	open System5->Custom->profile
	paste the Clock lisp icon at the bottom right.

And now, for your first LISP lesson, edit your copy of Clock.lsp,
and change the font/window size/window postion/etc.  Have fun.
-- 
Todd Williams    UNIX Systems Coordinator     todd@macsch.com    (213) 259-4973
MacNeal-Schwendler Corp. ("MSC"),  815 Colorado Blvd.,  Los Angeles, CA   90041
"The Democrats stand for nothing except 'I wish I was a Republican' and the
Republicans stand for raw, unbridled evil and greed and ignorance smothered
in balloons and ribbons."  -Frank Zappa, 1991  (Zappa for president!)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: shoe@world.std.com (Jack N Shoemaker)
Subject: Newsgroups by E-mail??
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:02:54 GMT

We have e-mail access to the internet, but NO newsreader at present.  Is it possible to *subscribe* to this list through e-mail.  Please respond to the
e-mail address below. (Not mine!!!)

	ted@rdcalr.realdec.com

TIA.

-- 
Jack Shoemaker
Real Decisions Corporation    Voice: 203-656-1500
Darien, CT  06820          InterNet: shoe@world.std.com

Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: wollborn@tnt.uni-hannover.de (Michael Wollborn)
Subject: Re: Rotating Text?
Reply-To: wollborn@tnt.uni-hannover.de
Organization: Universitaet Hannover, Theoretische Nachrichtentechnik
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 08:27:07 GMT

In article 27455@ra.msstate.edu, mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu (mark r rauschkolb) writes:
>Is it possible to turn a word (or group of words) sideways?
>
>I want to have the majority of the words going horizontally, but have a
>bold title going vertically up the "edge" of the paragraph.
>
>Mark
>mrr1@ra.msstate.edu


You have two possibilities of text not going horizontal:

	- create a text-object in a frame and then "rotate" it; this
	  is only possible in 90 degree steps.

	- create a text-object in a frame, convert it to "outline"; then
	  you can treat it like any other graphic-object and so you can
	  rotate it in any degree step you like.

Hope this helps, Michael


#
# Dipl.-Ing. Michael Wollborn (Wissenschaftlicher Mitarbeiter)
# Institut fr Theoretische Nachrichtentechnik und Informationsverarbeitung
# Universitt Hannover, Appelstrae 9A, D-3000 Hannover 1
#
# phone +49-511-762-5312 / fax +49-511-762-5312
# email wollborn@tnt.uni-hannover.de
#


Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: wollborn@tnt.uni-hannover.de (Michael Wollborn)
Subject: Re: Question: starting ileaf5 with clock window
Reply-To: wollborn@tnt.uni-hannover.de
Organization: Universitaet Hannover, Theoretische Nachrichtentechnik
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 06:58:26 GMT

In article 8236@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU, chinkao@babbage.seas.ucla.edu (Chin C. Kao) writes:
>I am running Interleaf 5 on a Sun SPARCStation with SunOS 4.1.1.  How
>do I get the clock window to open automatically everytime Interleaf is
>started?  Thanks.
>
>
>-- 
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>-= Kelvin C. Kao -=- chinkao@seas.ucla.edu =-
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>

Ever tried to put the clock.lsp-script in your profile ? I don't know
if it works but I think it should.

Michael


#
# Dipl.-Ing. Michael Wollborn (Wissenschaftlicher Mitarbeiter)
# Institut fr Theoretische Nachrichtentechnik und Informationsverarbeitung
# Universitt Hannover, Appelstrae 9A, D-3000 Hannover 1
#
# phone +49-511-762-5312 / fax +49-511-762-5312
# email wollborn@tnt.uni-hannover.de
#



Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: burckhar@troubadix.alcatel.ch (Peter Burckhardt)
Subject: Re: Suggestion
Organization: Alcatel STR Switzerland
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:57:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.172306.21411@ims.com> billr@ims.com writes:
>
>An open letter to Interleaf...
>
>I would like to suggest that someone at Interleaf maintain a mailing
>list of users that would like to receive timely information regarding
>Interleaf: product announcements, product restructuring moves,
>quarterly and annual reports, and announcements from the marketing
>department.
>
>While this kind of information is not within the charter of the
>newsgroup, a mailing list would be an effective way to communicate to
>all users that wish to receive this information and have access to the
>Internet (which is a substantial number of people).
>
>How about it?  Is anyone listening?  Does anyone else think this is
>a good idea?
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------
> Bill Rea               Integrated Measurement Systems Inc.
> billr@ims.com          Beaverton,  Oregon
>-------------------------------------------------------------


Perfect idea !!

I would really encourage Interleaf Inc. to have such a service. Would probably SAVE US and INTERLEAF a lot of expenses for phone calls, fax and also frustration.

I also feel better being informed thru an official source rather than reading and hearing rumors ...

BTW: This would also be an interesting source of information for the local Interleaf offices around the world, too ...
-- 
           V             Peter Burckhardt    Interleaf Site Manager  
+---------------------+  Alcatel STR AG        
| A  L  C  A  T  E  L |  Friesenbergstr. 75  e-Mail:  peter.burckhardt@alcatel.ch
+---------------------+  CH-8055 Zurich      phone:   +41 1 465 32 39
From: sam@cs.adelaide.edu.au (Sam Sangster)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: Passwords by email
Date: 2 Oct 92 07:20:58 GMT
Followup-To: comp.text.interleaf
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, University of Adelaide.
NNTP-Posting-Host: blue-vein.sun-shop.adelaide.edu.au

In article <1992Sep30.160711.1270@HQ.Ileaf.COM>, dbw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Dorene Woodrow) writes:
|> FYI, the ability to email passwords varies by Interleaf office/
|> country today.
|> 
|> Interleaf in the U.S. distributes passwords by email now to all U.S.
|> customers who request it. We'll be glad to do this for you. Just ask
|> when you place an order through your sales rep or by phone and provide
|> the email address you want them to go to.  We're also setting up an
|> address/process whereby you will soon be able to *request* them by
|> email as well... stay tuned.
|> 
|> Most Interleaf subsidiaries/distributors in Europe and the Pacific Rim
|> are not yet set up to do this today.  However, we're going to take a 
|> closer look at this by country.


Hey, come on ... the passwords I receive currently via fax (at least three hops
from Passwd centre, to Interleaf Australia in Sydney, to the local Interleaf
office, and finally to me ... try reading them!) from the USA could just as
easily be e-mailed to me!  Probably with more ease?

Or am I getting this all wrong, in that passwords are to be allocated in each
country, rather than from a central location.  If the latter, then what is stopping
this centre e-mailing me direct (other than our local office doesn't have email, and
the Sydney centre's email seems to be OK sometimes...)

|> 
|> Thanks for your input!

No, thank you for reading the newsgroup, and a big thank you to your superiors
for allowing you to post to a newsgroup!

|> -- 
|> Dorene Woodrow                      Internet: dbw@ileaf.com
|> Interleaf, Inc.                     UUCP:     uunet!leafusa!dbw
|> Prospect Place, 9 Hillside Ave.     Voice:    1.617.290.0710, ext. 2624
|> Waltham, MA 02154

-Sam.
-- 
Sam Sangster  +++ Internet: sam@cs.adelaide.edu.au + Ph:  +61 8 228 5441/5502
Support Engineer, Sun Shop & Apple Consortium,     + Fax: +61 8 223 1206
Dept of Computer Science, University of Adelaide, South Australia.
Xref: sparky comp.text.interleaf:737 comp.text.tex:11827
From: dnf@suned1.nswses.navy.mil (David N. Fukes)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf,comp.text.tex
Subject: Help: TeX to Interleaf filter.
Keywords: Interleaf, filter, TeX
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:00:07 GMT
Organization: Port Hueneme Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

Does anyone out there know if there exists a TeX to Interleaf filter?
-- 
David N. Fukes
PHD NSWC Code 4V12
Port Hueneme, CA 93043-5007
Internet: dnf@suned1.nswses.navy.mil
            Any statements/opinions made here are not the Navy's.

Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu (mark r rauschkolb)
Subject: Mixing big fonts with little ones
Reply-To: mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:13:46 GMT

Is it possible to mix Font sizes on a line / lines such that the Larger type
is as large as two or three lines of the smaller text.  
(two or three lines of the smaller text using the same space as one of Large text)

poor ascii example:    |\  /| ath
                       | \/ | eans 
                       |    | ore

M is in 30 pt and rest is in 8 pt

The first time I was asked this, it was for a Newsletter logo.  Now someone has
asked how to make their paper look like an old book, where the first letter of
the first word is so large that it drops down two or three lines.

I tried it by making multiple columns, which works, but there has to be a better
way.  any suggestions?

Thanks
Mark
mrr1@ra.msstate.edu
From: amyf@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Amy K Farrell)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: Question: starting ileaf5 with clock window
Date: 3 Oct 92 01:39:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: tekig7.7166
Reply-To: Amy.K.Farrell@tek.com
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <8236@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> chinkao@babbage.seas.ucla.edu (Chin C. Kao) writes:
>I am running Interleaf 5 on a Sun SPARCStation with SunOS 4.1.1.  How
>do I get the clock window to open automatically everytime Interleaf is
>started?  Thanks.

You can copy the "Clock" script into your profile drawer
(anything you put in your profile drawer loads at startup).

All the "Custom" commands are located in your System5
cabinet, within a cabinet named "Custom." Clock would be
in the "No Selection" cabinet, since you run it with nothing
selected (it's in the "Misc" drawer).

Disclaimer: This may not be an appropriate thing to do with
some commands. It does seem to work fine with the clock.

--
Amy K. Farrell			(I do not speak for Tektronix)

Amy.K.Farrell@tek.com
amyf@tekig5.pen.tek.com
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: pgb@apollo.HP.COM (Patrick Bigos)
Subject: Opening documents without invoking Interleaf
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:34:13 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA


Hello,

I was wondering if it is possible to open an Interleaf
document without actually invoking the whole Interleaf
Process.  Is there a command within either tps or ileaf5
that allows you to use a filename.doc as the arguement
to bring up just enough of Interleaf to open a single
document.  When the doc gets closed Ileaf should not
be running.  If anyone can help me I would be greatly
appreciative.

Thank You,,,

Patrick Bigos
pgb@apollo.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: Complaint about Interleaf Germany's Support P
From: judy@technology.com (Judy McMillin)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:04:02 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas

In article <1992Sep25.162830.12065@mcshh.Hanse.DE> schiers@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Carsten Schiers) writes:
>
>But let me say at least this, it's not only the support policy that does not
>work as one would expect for the price.
>
>
>Carsten Schiers


	I am furious that we were never given a set of manuals
	when we upgraded to 5.0.  My old manuals were for an 
	Apollo platform using 4.2.  When we upgraded to 5.0,
	we also moved to a Sun platform.  Many of the keystrokes
	are different, and the HELP files are useless.

	For example, does anyone know what keystroke will cancel
	an operation without shutting down the software?  

	I had to call software support to find such minor things
	as this:  to get a new component (like a hard carriage
	return would be on a wordprocessor) you would use the
	"again" key on the Apollo.  There is no "again" key on 
	the Sun; I had to CALL THEM just to find out that I now
	need to use the "line feed" key for that operation!  
	
	Maybe I'm not as "computer smart" as many Interleaf users
	are, but this is rediculous.


		Bye, Judy
From: chinkao@babbage.seas.ucla.edu (Chin C. Kao)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Question: starting ileaf5 with clock window
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:43:43 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

I am running Interleaf 5 on a Sun SPARCStation with SunOS 4.1.1.  How
do I get the clock window to open automatically everytime Interleaf is
started?  Thanks.


-- 
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
-= Kelvin C. Kao -=- chinkao@seas.ucla.edu =-
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: ctalbott@mksol.dseg.ti.com (christopher j talbott)
Subject: running processes
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:09:19 GMT

I am posting this for a co-worker.

> In the context of starting several shell processes via Interleaf LISP process
> methods and closing each stream associated with each process upon its completion,
> has anyone ever seen the following wacky error?
>
> "Error: Can't allocate an event for process end -- run-event-loop in
> nil (sleep <time increment>) while loading....."
>
> What the heck does it mean?  My Interleaf rep has never heard of it.
>
> Thanks!

I'm not sure how many of y'all out there are Ileaf LISP developers, but
I'm given to understand that Interleaf monitors this newsgroup, so I figured
it was worth a shot...

-Chris
-- 
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
/// Chris Talbott     ///////// ctalbott@mksol.dseg.ti.com ///////
/// Software Designer ///////// chris@ews7.dseg.ti.com     ///////
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
/// "There are very few personal problems that cannot be        //
///  solved through a suitable application of high explosives." //
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: jstripli@rtsg.mot.com (Jeff R. Stripling)
Subject: Help with enc. postscript in headers
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:44:04 GMT

I am having trouble using an encapsulated postscript file
in a header with Interleaf 5.3.

When I paste the EPSF in normal text, it appears as a grey
box.  When I print it, the grey box prints just like it should
and I am very happy.

When I paste the EPSF in a header, it appears as a grey
box.  When I print it, nothing shows up in the area the grey
box occupies and I am very sad.

Not exactly WHSIWYG.  Anyone know why the encapsulated postscript
files are treated differently in headers than in normal text?

Thanks,

Jeff R. Stripling
jstripli@mot.com
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: wollborn@tnt.uni-hannover.de (Michael Wollborn)
Subject: Re: HQ.ileaf.com -> they read and respond... Tha
Reply-To: wollborn@tnt.uni-hannover.de
Organization: Universitaet Hannover, Theoretische Nachrichtentechnik
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 07:04:18 GMT

In article 1@mdcbbs.com, ivler@mdcbbs.com (J.M. Ivler    ivler@mdcbbs.com) writes:
>In the last day or so there have been two responses from Interleaf on 
>non-technical issues. It was a pleasure to see Interleaf responding to net 
>traffic. It would also be nice if the official policy at Interleaf was to 
>respond to technical questions in this forum as well.
>
>jmi
>ivler@mdcbbs.com


So I will try it with some more or less technical question. I heard that
there is a beta release of an Interleaf-5.x OpenLook-Version. Has anybody
got experience with it ? What about performance compared to the standard
Interleaf-5.x Versions ? And what about (question to Interleaf people)
a test version of this software. Is something like that available ?

Any answers welcome via email or reposting.

Michael


#
# Dipl.-Ing. Michael Wollborn (Wissenschaftlicher Mitarbeiter)
# Institut fr Theoretische Nachrichtentechnik und Informationsverarbeitung
# Universitt Hannover, Appelstrae 9A, D-3000 Hannover 1
#
# phone +49-511-762-5312 / fax +49-511-762-5312
# email wollborn@tnt.uni-hannover.de
#

Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: schiers@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Carsten Schiers)
Subject: Re: Interleaf -> Markup Language?
Organization: Point of Presence & MCS Hamburg
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 06:22:56 GMT

arnold@stat.ncsu.edu (Tim Arnold) writes:

>Is there anyone out there working on (or interested in) 
>a conversion product add-on to convert Interleaf docs to
>SGML (Standard Generalized Markup Language)?

So you don't like their SGML solution? :-)

Carsten Schiers, Deutsche Airbus.
From: swlodin@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Steve Lodin)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: Passwords by FAX suck!  [was: Re: Complaint about Interleaf Germany's Support Policies
Date: 27 Sep 92 16:23:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: kocrsv01.1992Sep27.162342.9269
Organization: Delco Electronics Corp.
Originator: swlodin@kocrsw15


In article <1992Sep26.011714.23102@draco.macsch.com>, todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams) writes:
> 
> Aaarrrrgghhhhhhh!!!!  Yes, they are almost ENDLESS!  ("Gee, a FRAME password
> is only 9 digits!")  My experience has been that they often get them WRONG
> and have to re-issue them....MORE TYPING!  EVERY TIME I need new passwords
> I plead, "Please, can't you email them to me somehow?"  To make matters
> worse, my FAX machine doesn't get along well with the one at ileaf, and
> my stupid corporate FAX policies make it difficult to get a FAX within
> several HOURS of when it arrives.
> 
> WE DON'T MIND THOSE HUGE PASSWORDS IF YOU SEND THEM TO US VIA EMAIL!!!!!!!
> 

Just to make it known that Todd isn't in the monority, it would make
my job much easier to do the cut'n'paste from email.

I guess the real question is "Is anybody listening?"


Steve
-- 
Steve Lodin	Internet: swlodin@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com  UUCP: deaes!swlodin

One good reason why computers can do more work than people is that they
never have to stop and answer the phone.
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf