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From: angela@brahms.udel.edu (Angela Lakwete)
Subject: Re: Crates
Keywords: Crates
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:48:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.194125.29848@dgbt.doc.ca> michele@dgbt.doc.ca (Michele Guillet) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.175817.25903@linus.mitre.org> rbeltz@hilda.mitre.org (Randy Beltz) writes:
>>	For those of you who hunt their dogs, you know how MUCH fido loves 
>>to roll around in dung (cow is my pups favorite)...
>>
>I certainly don't hunt my dog nor do I take her hunting, she still
>loves to roll ane even eat (gross) manure and all sort of disgusting
>stuff.
>
>I'd like to get her to understand someday that it is a sure way
>to get a bath as soon as we get home. No, I normally don't let her
>do it but sometimes she is too fast for me. 
>
This harkens back to a thread about which is worse when our pups
roll in IT or eat it?  One requires a bath the other a cookie!

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From: wandas@wander.Eng.Sun.COM (Wanda Schroeder)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Bulldog Questions
Date: 27 Jan 1993 18:08:24 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: wander

 I have been looking into getting a dog for sometime now and have recently
 been concedering a bulldog. Would any bulldog owner's out there like to
 to tell me a little about there dog's? I have researched various breed's
 according to their temperment and am still unsure what would be the best
 dog for us. The things I'm looking for is a dog are:
     Good Temperment and a compainion
     Must be good with children (I have a two year old)
     Good watch dog or protective nature (no attack dog just a warning bell)
     Medium sized (female only)
     Able to jog and go for long walks (no little pieces of fluff)

 Any good ideas out there? Can a bulldog go jogging?
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Distribution: world
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 00:26:05 -0800
From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: Help with Tissue-eating Dogs!
Comment-To: CS#0@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
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X-FSC-PID:  RA 0.04

  Your dogs have gotten the idea that they have free rein of the house
once you are asleep.  You will have to teach them differently.  What
is did was to install a short rope with a harness snap onto the foot
of my bed.  When I go to sleep, the rope goes onto the dog's collar. 
She has to stay in her bed area.  If she fusses, I tell her to lay
down and go to sleep.
  You could also construct a dog run if you'd like the dogs to sleep
outdoors.
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From: artemis@netcom.com (Michelle Dick)
Subject: Re: Please! Help Save This Adorable Dog from Death!!
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:49:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.170110.22276@leland.Stanford.EDU> shedevil@gw.home.vix.com (Anne P. Mitchell, J.D.) writes:
>The local non-putting-down rescue
>group has been called, but they are really overburdened themselves, and
>besides that, I've seen where their little dogs end up.  In one room,
>covered with paper, with a zillion other dogs.  [I know because we got
>Callie there].

I assume you are talking about NARF here.  You know about NARF so you
should also know that citing the conditions in one of their dozens of
foster homes is misrepresentation.  I saw 5 of their foster homes when
searching for my Zeno.  In 3 homes, there was only one foster dog.  In
another there were 3 dogs, but they were kept in a spacious mudroom
with access to the fenced outside.  The foster mother was crate
training them as well.  She had nursed one of the dogs to health from
near death and had sunk over $500 of her own money into the dog's vet
bills.  He was a Doberman and she also did Dobie rescue.  The 5th home
was more as you describe: 5 dogs kept outdoors most of the time in a
small fenced backyard, brought into the garage at night.  But, as luck
would have it, that is where I found Zeno.

But if anyone out there has room in their home to foster a dog, NARF
desperately needs more foster homes.  NARF will pay for food and vet
costs, you just provide a temporary home and agree to bring the dog to
twice monthly adoption fairs and show the dog to prospective "parents"
referred to you by NARF.  Dogs may take from days to months to be
adopted so you need to be prepared to only have the foster dog for a
very short time as well as a more extended period.  You can be picky
about the type of dog you will foster (big, small, puppy, adult).
NARF does cats and other animals as well.  You can get the NARF
information number by checking the classified pet ads, they always
advertise.  Money donations are also needed.

--
Michelle Dick
artemis@netcom.com
From: davek@scooter.intel.com (David Karikas)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Microchip Implants
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:44:40 GMT
Organization: Intel Corp

In article <3525@peking.gdwb.oz.au>, anuske@gdwb.oz.au (Andrew Nuske) writes:
|> Hi Everyone !!
|> 
|> I was just wondering if Microchip Implants were in use in the States ?
|> 
|> I plan to get my boy done shortly (A.C.D. NAME:"JAKE") so that if he did 
|> decide to go walkabout and end up at the Animal Welfare Centre minus his tags
|> then they would only have to scan him to find out where he lives.
|> 
|> Thanks in advance for any replies.
|> 
|> 
|> Andrew.
|> 
|> -- 
|> ------------------------------------------------------------------------                                                                       Andrew Nuske                Urban Systems Design Branch          _--_|\
|> Email: anuske@gdwb.OZ.AU    Geelong & District Water Board      /      \
|> Phone: +61 52 262314        61-67 Ryrie St. Geelong             \_.--._/   
|> Fax:   +61 52 218236        Victoria 3220 Australia                   v
|> ------------------------------------------------------------------------                                                                
Not as of yet from what I know. Europe also does this to cars, motorcycles,
etc for recovery from theft. The problem in the states is the high crime
and the fact that we have many levels of law enforcement that don't 
cooperate. The big hold-up on this godd idea is "who is gonna pay for the
scanners?"

Bummer cuz I think these work good.

-- 
Dave Karikas
Intel Corp. Hillsboro, Oregon
davek@scooter.intel.com
Organization: Social and Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:36:22 -0500 
From: "Sara B. Kiesler" <kiesler+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: 2 dogs vs 1 dog

Here's another option if you are thinking of adding a second dog:
Keep your one dog and volunteer your time at a shelter for strays in the
time you would devote to another dog.

I live in Pittsburgh where Animal Friends is a shelter that doesn't
euthenize dogs and cats unless they are proven vicious. They have a
volunteer program. Volunteers come in whenever they want during
(generous) visiting hours to play with the cats, take the dogs for
walks, bathe the dogs (Thursday evenings), play with the dogs in the
exercise yard, and even do obedience training.  There is a routine for
keeping of track of who has been walked, so all the dogs get a chance. 
I just began volunteering there (Tonight I spent an hour with a sad
Samoyed who was found in a police raid on a crack house.)  

I am extremely impressed with the good this place is doing. Animal
Friends has a good record for placing pets because they do detailed
investigation of the pet's personality, health, & training  and of the
potential owner's life style, home environment, and experience with
pets.  They even allow people to be "foster parents" for pets or to try
fostering a pet before deciding to adopt him/her.

The only problem with doing this work is that you'll be tempted to take
everyone home.  My friends tell me that my working there is like "taking
an addicted gambler to Las Vegas.  

Cheers, Sara
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: pastor@prc.unisys.com (Jon Pastor)
Subject: Re: My Dog Rights with the Police (Was Re: Animal Activists at Dog SHows)
Organization: not much...
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:34:35 GMT

While I have a fundamental philosophical problem with this, the fact is that
your dog is property, and legally it is pretty much the same if someone
threatens your dog or someone threatens your VCR.  You and I know that dogs
are intelligent creatures, friends, and better than many people -- certainly
better than the scumballs who were partying in your yard -- but they are
non-citizens when it comes to their rights.
From: bryan@gtx.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: German Shepard/Labrador comparison
Date: 23 Jan 93 07:28:27 GMT
Organization: GTX Corporation, Phoenix AZ


  My wife and I are considering getting either a German Shepard or a Labrador
  retriever.  Can anyone offer any helpful hints or comparisons of these two
  fine breeds of dog?  Things like ease of training, shedding, breed traits,
  etc.  I'm have been doing some research of these breeds so I am aware of 
  the basics, but would be interested in hearing some first hand experiences.
  Thanx much!
From: bassett@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (Diane Bassett)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Please! Help Save This Adorable Dog from Death!!
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:30:53 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino



If this dog is a poodle, please call the Peninsula Humane Society at
415- 340-8200, and ask for Janet Smith (the adoption supervisor).  She
can tell you if she has a contact name for Poodle Rescue volunteers.
I think she does.  The no-kill shelter in your area is not your only 
alternative.

Diane Bassett
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From: mandrews@portal.hq.videocart.com (Mike Andrews)
Subject: Re: Bullmastiffs
Organization: VideOcart Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 16:30:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.140538.13138@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> willett@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (david.c.willett) writes:
>From article <1993Jan24.025541.13143@cgrg.ohio-state.edu>, by demetri@cgrg.ohio-state.edu :
>> Anyone out there have a bullmastiff or a mastiff?  They are my favorite
>> dogs in the world.  When I used to walk with Peggy (bullmastiff) people
>> would walk a wide circle around us.  We also heard people say how ugly she
>> was, but I think they are gorgeous dogs with incredibly expressive faces.
>> And in spite of what a lot of people expect, I've found them to be some of
>> the sweetest, gentlest beasties around.  Too bad they don't live longer.
>> 
>> Renee
>
>	I have been interested in both breeds for quite some time, but 
>have never gotten past the "looking" stage.  In checking puppy prices, I've
>found them to be more expensive than the more common breeds.  I also wonder
>about how to train and house them.
>
>	By the way, how long *do* they live?
>
>-- 
>Dave Willett          AT&T Federal Systems Advanced Technologies
>attmail!dwillett      (AT&T FSAT)
>If you think it's so !#$%^& easy, You try it!

Ours wasn't hard to train at all.  Housebreaking him was a no brainer since
we put him in a crate from day one.  They are very intelligent dogs.

We planned for about a year to get ours.  One day we decided to check with 
a breeder we had talked to months before and she told us her bitch had a
litter the day before.  We reserved a brindle male and went to see him 
when we was a week old.  

If you contact a breeder and ask for a pet quality puppy and leave your
number you may get a better price.  Bullmastiff puppies are generally i
less expensive than some breeds like bulldogs.
-- 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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mandrews@hq.videocart.com                      Chicago, IL USA 
=-=- Madonna:  Andy Warhol called. Your 15 minutes are up.-=-=
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: crs@beta.lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby)
Subject: Re: DQ at Working Events???
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:35:04 GMT

In article <31723@nntp_server.ems.cdc.com> nlittle@ems.cdc.com writes:
= 
= AKC has taken a strong stand against aggressive dogs in both Obedience and
= Conformation.  The judge is STRONGLY suggested to disqualify a dog that
= shows aggression towards any person in the ring.  This means that the
= dog is unable to compete in AKC events from then on.  This rule applies to 
= Dog Shows and Tracking Tests.  I'm pretty sure it applies to Hunting Tests
= and Herding tests as well.

From _Regulations for AKC Hunting Tests for Pointing Breeds_:

    Chapter 1 Section 4.  Entry Requirements.
    "...  Dogs that have been granted Indefinite Listing Privileges
    (ILP's) are not eligible to participate in Hunting Tests."

    "A dog is not eligible to be entered or run in any licensed or
    member club Hunting Test in any category if the dog has on two
    occasions been made the subject of the following report:  If a
    dog, while under judgement at an AKC licensed or member club
    Hunting Test attacks another dog, and the Judges are
    unanimously of the opinion that such attack was without
    reasonable cause, the Judges shall identify the offending dog
    on the judging sheet and the name of the offending dog shall be
    listed in the report of the Hunting Test sent to The American
    Kennel Club.  (Refer to Ch 5, Sec 1-D)"
    
and from Ch 5, Sec 1-D:

    [Begins with essentially a repetition of the above description
    about the conditions under which such a report should be filed
    and continues:]

    "An attack should be distinguished from interference, bumping
    and playing.  The Judges shold clearly distinguish between the
    dog defending itself and the attacking dog.  ..."

I assume, but don't know, that similar would apply to hunting tests
for others (e.g. retrievers).


-- 
Best,

Charlie "Older than dirt" Sorsby				"I'm the NRA!"
	  crs@lanl.gov
From: kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow)
Subject: Re: Westminster..Crufts
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:04:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.140126.14966@cbfsb.cb.att.com>,
posie@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (donald.e.church) wrote:
> 
> 
> MARGET...A GIFT FOR ME!!..I CAN HARDLY WAIT TO SEE YOU AT
> WESTMINSTER!
> 
> I just found your post after returning home from jolly
> old England where I attended the Crufts dog show.  I
> highly recommend it for all you Netters out there.
> 
> See you at Westminster!
> -- 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> |   Don Church    AT&T Bell Labs   Whippany, NJ  |      
> |   dec@polaris.att.com            201-386-4947  |
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Crufts Don ?

    I am (and I'm sure others are)  positively GREEN with
envy !  What differences did you see in quality/size/etc.
of different breeds ?  Any noticible differences in the size 
of entries in specific breeds (ie. were there tons of GSDs
and no ACDs) ?

    Tell us, tell us, tell us............. :-)

Kathy
(Who is really bummed that neither she nor her 
dog is going to Westminister this year)
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Katwala Australian Cattle Dogs
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From: exuwarn@exu.ericsson.se (Robert Warnock)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,ca.wanted,ba.general,misc.misc,rec.pets
Subject: Re: UPDATE: Please! Help Save This Adorable Dog from Death!!
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:02:37 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <1993Jan21.203335.28143@leland.Stanford.EDU> shedevil@gw.home.vix.com (Anne P. Mitchell, J.D.) writes:
>
><sigh>...the woman who took care of this dog over this past night says
>she seems to have been abused in the past..every time she tried to pick
>her up the dog tried to bite her, even she was otherwise incredibly
>sweet, hopped up in her lap, took a pill with no problem, etc.
>
>She's been returned to the vet and is scheduled to be put down this
>afternoon.
>
>Sigh.
>
>

What is the number???  I'll call myself!!....Or call me at 997-1160 area 214.
My name is Robert.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: A1.MHH@isumvs.iastate.edu (Mary Healey)
Subject: Re: Help with Tissue-eating Dogs!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:30:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.000113.1659@galaxy.gov.bc.ca>,
ddjohnson@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:
>In article <1993Jan24.165006.14903@lut.ac.uk>, M.S.Wileman1@lut.ac.uk writes:
>> There's nothing I can do with my tissue-eating dog, he eats them like there's
>> no tommorrow.   The funny thing is, he will only eat *used* tissues.  Ones
>> that you've stuck in your ear, or blown your nose on.   He won't go near
>> one that is still in the box, or is unused...is that a disgusting habit,
>> or *what*?  ;-)
>
>Nikita, our Siberian Husky, is exactly the same. She chews
>nothing in the house (now that she's not a puppy), EXCEPT  used
>tissues. She rips those apart in no time.
>
>DDJ
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>Doug Johnson                    "Injustice anywhere is a threat

Used TISSUES!  I should be so lucky!  Sam's inappropriate
paper-consuming object of puppy-lust is, er, um, ... used (feminine
products).  He leaves the (easily identifiable) remains in the
middle of the living room rug.  I also have lots of new jeans and
underwear (he ate the unmentionables out of the old ones).  Sam's
done what my mother never managed: I put my dirty clothes in a
hamper, and regularly empty the wastebaskets!


Mary & Sam
From: bassett@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (Diane Bassett)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: NEEDED!:  Enclosed Wire Dog Run/Pen - Bay Area
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:48:43 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino


  Please read the posting before yours-- crating would solve your problem...
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: crs@beta.lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby)
Subject: Re: Tails'n'Ears WAS Flame?
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:17:50 GMT

In article <C1Fp79.2n4A@austin.ibm.com> me@vikings.austin.ibm.com (Michael E) writes:

= If you dock (for legitimate reasons only) you must neuter.
= At least this way weak genes associated with the docked body part
= will not propogate.

Why?

I have mixed feelings about ear cropping for the reasons that
others have mentioned but even so, I doubt that, done later as it
is, it is done without anesthetic.  Nevertheless, it sounds to me a
more complex procedure than either dew-claw removal or tail
docking.  Therefore, there *may* be potential hazards.

*But* I've observed both dew-claw removal and tail docking first
hand and I am convinced that all of the storm about it is a tempest
in a tea pot.  The procedure is trivial when done early as it is
(from one to a few days of age).  One of my recent litter of
Brittanies didn't have a natural dock and was docked by the vet.
The pup yelped at least as loudly when he opened her mouth for
examination as she did when he docked her tail.  Doesn't sound to
me that tail docking was such a big thing.

It is not a problem of "weak genes."  Insisting that a dog with
surgically docked tail be neutered would be counter productive.
The early Brittany standard required a naturally short tail.  More
sensible heads prevailed, however, because effort expended to breed
only for naturally short tails would be effort diverted away from
more important traits such as soundness, birdiness, ...  Neutering
every pup that had a naturally long tail would be precisely
equivalent to having kept the requirement for naturally short tails
in the breed standard.

For those of a crusading nature, there are far more important
things to direct your energies toward than tail docking, dew-claw
removal, and, *perhaps*, even ear cropping.  If people worried half
as much about minimizing congenital disorders from our breeds as
they do about trivialities, *all* of our breeds would be better
off by far.

I'm sorry if this sounds like a flame but I sometimes lose patience
with this penchant to worry about nonprobems while plenty of *REAL*
problems remain to be solved.


-- 
Best,

Charlie "Older than dirt" Sorsby				"I'm the NRA!"
	  crs@lanl.gov
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: mandrews@portal.hq.videocart.com (Mike Andrews)
Subject: Re: Clipping nails
Organization: VideOcart Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:33:45 GMT

My 12 year old English Bulldog, Bertha D. will not let you near her
toes with a clipper. Her defense is unique: She hides all four paws
under her body and looks at you as if to say, "You must be mistaken.
I never had any paws, much less nails to clip."

When the vet clips her nails I envelop her body with my arms and hold
one paw out at a time for the clippers.  It ends up being a wrestling
match worthy of the Olympics. Bulldogs are STRONG!, not to mention
stubborn.

-- 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Mike Andrews                                   VideOcart, Inc.
mandrews@hq.videocart.com                      Chicago, IL USA 
=-=- Madonna:  Andy Warhol called. Your 15 minutes are up.-=-=
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow)
Subject: Re: Picture perfect
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:58:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.172203.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>,
hckrus01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu wrote:
> 
> I have the calender too and I love it!  But I notice there are no 
> Irish Setters.  Hmmmm....  Maybe this thing is rigged!  Kathy (Buetow)
> tells me that she's been sending in Cattle Dog pix for the last 
> couple years and they haven't been accepted.  After meeting Kathy's
> ever-so-photogenic dogs, I just don't understand it!  Maybe next 
> year we should boycott :-)
> 
> Holly

I boycotted it myself this year.  I have spent a lot of time
in the past few years getting photographs together to send in.
I am a fairly good photographer (IMHO) and have sent to them
what I feel were good clear uncluttered shots.  All of this in
the interest of seeing *at least* one ACD in the calendar
(there was one a few years back, but none since).  It seems
to me that there are several breeds that are over-represented
(I am not knocking the breeds or the photographs here, I'd
just like to see a little diversity).

I must say that I do miss it incredibly...I still have last year's
up on my wall here at work.  It is still on December 21, an 
adorable picture of a Golden with a Santa Cap in his mouth.

Gosh guys, the more I think about it there more I seeing
a different dog every day (even though I'm miffed at the 
company).  Maybe if Mike or somebody else buys one for 
me then I wouldn't *really* be compromising my boycot :-).

Kathy   (Kathy_Buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu)
---------------------------
Katwala Australian Cattle Dogs - Home of:
 Ch Bryn Mawr's Wild Blue Yonder (Yonder)    
 Ch Five Cedars Black-Eyed Oreo (Oreo)
 Ch Shurcan Keep Truckin' Tucker CD (Tucker)
 Katwala's Double Stuff  (Stuffy)
 Bryn Mawr's Rough N Tumble (Rowdy) 
 Katwala's My Special Agent (Cooper)
 Katwala's _____________ (Dally)
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