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From: dclark@b11.ingr.com (Dave Clark)
Subject: Re: REAL shaving soap
Reply-To: dclark@b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:31:54 GMT

In article <92097.120609TACON019@ysub.ysu.edu>, TACON019@ysub.ysu.edu (Fred Ullom) writes:
|> Am I the only one left in the world that shaves with a shaving mug and a
|> brush? I can't find OLD SPICE cake soap any more. Does anybody know if they
|> have discontinued it? I can get one made by Williamson but the cake is
|> smaller and doesn't fit right in my Old Spice shaving mug.
|> 
|> I'd be willing to pay if someone could find me a dozen:-)

I don't know about Old Spice, but Crabtree & Evelyn has a good supply of
shaving equipment (soaps, powders, brushes, razors, etc.).  I've used
several of their products and have been very pleased.

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Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: bkwg0457@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Whitlock)
Subject: Re: Digital Answering Machines?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world,local
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 03:51:21 GMT

omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu (Oscar Fowler) writes:

>In article <sherman.702631025@foster>, sherman@unx.sas.com (Chris Sherman) writes...
>>If you happen to have a PC at home, you might want to consider one of the
>>several cards you can get for your PC that can act like a very programmable
>>digital answering machine (with the hard drive as a storage medium).

>A friend of mine has had one of these for years.  It seems great, but I don't
>like the idea of relying on my PC being on all the time to get my messages.
>Not to mention the fact that I'm likely to be using OS/2 most of the time,
>and I have serious doubts as to whether any of the drivers for these cards
>will have OS/2 versions...

>Oscar M. Fowler - omf@smaug.hacks.arizona.edu

>PARMESAN CHEESE: Great on pasta, not great on eggs ...

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OS/2 2.0 is supposed to run DOS, Windows, 16 bit and 32 bit OS/2 applications
simultaneously.  Therefore, you should not have a problem.

Brent Whitlock

whitlock@logos.vlsi.uiuc.edu
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From: edp@MATH.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,alt.privacy
Subject: Re: capturing caller id data
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:03:46 GMT
Reply-To: edp@MATH.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Followup-To: misc.consumers
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Apr13.025516.2543@mdd.comm.mot.com>,
gilbert@mdd.comm.mot.com (John Gilbert) writes:

>There is no such thing as a "security aspect" to CLID.  CLID is not even
>close to a security feature.  For one thing, it assumes the line ID of
>the device used to place the call is somehow associated with the person
>placing the call.  In any area where CLID is implemented, anybody who
>wants to do bad things will do it from a phone that has nothing to do
>with them.

You overstate the case -- there IS such a thing as a security aspect to
calling-line identification.  First, many criminals aren't very
intelligent and will do something as stupid as using a phone associated
with them to make calls.  Second, the added trouble of going to an
anonymous phone will reduce the incidences of problem phone calls. 
Third, calls from such phones will go to my answering machine, thus both
reducing the chance the caller will say anything harassing and reducing
the impact of the call should any message be left.

By the way, you asked for explanation of how calling-line identification
would be used, and I explained clearly the advantages it would provide
to me.  You have not responded.


                                -- edp (Eric Postpischil)
                                "Always mount a scratch monkey."
                                edp@alien.enet.dec.com
From: abulloch@garnet.berkeley.edu (Anthony Bulloch)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Laundry Detergent recommendations
Followup-To: misc.consumers
Date: 17 Apr 1992 08:47:56 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu
Keywords: perfume free, allergen free

In article <khlcu.1@emerald.cc.columbia.edu> khlcu@emerald.cc.columbia.edu (Kenneth Lee) writes:
>Can anyone give me any recommendations on laundry detergent that doesn't 
>have perfume in it and doesn't cause allergic reactions?
>
>My wife has many allergies and all the detergents that I've been able to 
>find have perfumes in them, which causes breathing problems.  In addition,
>they all seem to leave residues that cause skin irritation in both of us.
>

You might want to try the products of Espial. Espial manufactures a
complete line of household cleaners (dishwasher, tile, stain remover,
glass cleaner, powerful all-purpose cleaner etc. etc.) which are all
100% green and non-toxic. (They also have a line of personal-care
products and an interesting nutritional item.)  My wife and I tried
Espial very sceptically, since we've tried many 'environmental'
products over the years and found that most of them don't work
(most of them are environmental because they don't have anything in them!)
and were very surprised to find that at last someone has done it:
Espial's products are _very_ good, and they are indeed safe to use.
(In addition, some of their products are unique.)   We know of
many people in your position: allergic to most commercial cleansers,
but happy with Espial.

Espial was founded by someone with a vision for the environment, and
their products deserve to be much more widely known: if more of us
used them it would indeed do a lot for the environment.  I'd be glad
to tell you more if you are interested.

Anthony Bulloch
abulloch@garnet.berkeley.edu
From: de@moscom.UUCP (David Esan)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: MCI Telemarketing (was MCI = Morons)
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:30:47 GMT
Reply-To: de@moscom.UUCP (David Esan)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford, NY

In article <1992Apr9.173927.9551@u.washington.edu> kevin@milton.u.washington.edu (Kevin Caskey) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.224822.13406@PA.dec.com> mayo@pa.dec.com (Bob Mayo) writes:
>>In article <3461@moscom.UUCP> de@moscom.UUCP (David Esan) writes:
>>> [...discussion about sequential dialling by telemarketers...]
>>>Obviously, ATT is using the last method, and called you.  There is no way
>>>to prevent sales slime from calling you, yet.  Have an unpublished number
>>>will not prevent sales calls, but it will reduce them.  
>
>Again, not so obvoius, how would they then know my name?
>Kevin at U dub.

*IF* you had noted that they used your name in your original article, then
I would not have presented this as a choice.

AT&T must have purchased your list from somewhere.  If they got it from the
local telephone company then they are the one to blame.  They should not give
out an unpublished number.  


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From: nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu (John Nall)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: HEATHKIT going out of business...
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:49:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: sun13.8102
Followup-To: misc.consumers
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

Just as a follow-up on this article: I had ordered a couple of items
from Heath BEFORE they announced they were going to quit selling kits.
One of the items I ordered was a kit (digital thermometer), and the
other was an already-assembled device for home security.  They sent
me a card saying that the home security device would be delayed in
shipping, because of parts shortage.  Didn't mention the kit, so I
assumed that IT was being shipped.

But after about three weeks went by, I finally called them (today) and
they said "oh, we aren't shipping kits any more.  You won't be getting
that."  Although a bit ticked, I said that I thought they could have
told me that on  the card (it was to have been a birthday present for
my wife, and I had allowed plenty of time to get it and assemble it before
her birthday, I thought).  The sales-person just replied "Okay".  I 
assume that this meant she acknowledged that I thought that.  But nothing
to indicate that they should have.

So if you have anything on order from them, don't assume it is in  the
mail!  And what am I going to do?  Why, nothing.  I'll just buy something
else for my wife, and quietly not order anything else from them.  

John



--
John W. Nall              | Supercomputer Computations Research Institute
nall@mailer.scri.fsu.edu  | Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL 32306

 "Disclaimer:  A world which requires disclaimers has too many lawyers."
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: bf644@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (D. C. Chuang)
Subject: Re: Discrimination at Mitsubishi
Reply-To: bf644@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (D. C. Chuang)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 04:59:41 GMT


In a previous article, berger@atropa (Mike Berger) says:
>proper grammar and spelling, but the phone conversation transcription
>is riddled with obvious errors.  It makes me wonder how accurate it
>is.
>
>I guess I don't understand why it went on as long as it did.  You
>won't get anywhere arguing with an idiot. 

   After trying to follow the conversation I came away with some confusion as
well.  The whole thing was so repetitive and choppy, not to mention the
excessive vulgarities which the caller continued to take time after
time.  Can someone explain this?  Kind of scary just to think there are
people like Mr. Avery out there.

DC
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      \>         so little time ...
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From: roitman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard K. Roitman)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Are You Still Cleaning Your Hard Contact Lenses By Hand???
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:08:26 GMT
Reply-To: roitman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard K. Roitman)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In misc.consumers, @pmafire.inel.gov writes:

>a "Cleansatron Auto Contact Cleaner",,,,,,I got mine from QVC,

>If you would like more info on what a GREAT little invention this is,
>please email, and I would be happy to pass along more info!
>
>Jeff Later     jeffl@pmafire.inel.gov


Jeff,

    I tried to email but it kept getting bounced.  I'd like whatever
info you may have.  Specifically, will it work with gas-permeable lens?


Rick Roitman
roitman@oasys.dt.navy.mil
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From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,alt.privacy
Subject: Re: capturing caller id data
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:08:02 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

gilbert@mdd.comm.mot.com (John Gilbert) writes:

}For most people, the answering machine could meet their needs... for others
}who have more stringent requirements, a personal code system would do the
}job.  Neither NEEDS CLID.  Both are available NOW.  For use ANYWHERE.

}Tell you what, why not take a moment and describe HOW you will use CLID to
}get what you want.  Be sure to include calls from people you did not
}anticipate, and ones from people you know, but are not at a number you
}would expect them to be at.  Let's say the call is somewhat urgent...

John, don't you ever get tired of beating your head against this same wall?
I answered the above question for you the last time this went around.  You
didn't really listen to my answer then, and I don't see you really listening
now, either.  You just keep telling people what they want.  You are so
focused on what you see as the shortcomings of CID that you can't seem to
acknowledege the shortcomings that others see in answering machines and
secret codes.

So let's try an experiment.  Here is how I will use CID:  If I recognize
the incoming number, I will decide whether or not I want to talk to the
persons or persons associated with that number and act accordingly.  If
I don't recognize the number, I will either take the chance and answer 
it anyway or I will ignore it, depending on my mood at the time.  If that
means I miss an urgent call, then that's just too bad for me.  It was my
choice, and I'm willing to live with the consequences.

Now, are you going to tell me what I REALLY want?

--James Preston

Newsgroups: misc.consumers,misc.legal
From: jreiser@scott.skidmore.edu (jason reiser)
Subject: Re: Credit Rating & $$$ Collectors?
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 06:15:03 GMT

Please note that all uses of caloquialisms and spelling errors in the
attorney's letter have been left intact for you to enjoy and ponder
over as I have.

Thanks again.

				- Jason Reiser
 
 
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  \            E-Mail at jreiser@scott.skidmore.edu            /
  /                    Or Call 518-581-7079                    \
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From: marshall@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (Jay Marshall)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: TRW toll free number
Date: 12 Apr 1992 19:32:07 GMT
Organization: nasa-jsc


>TRW was supposed to make available free credit reports for 
>a consumer once a year starting April 1st. They were also 
>supposed to provide a toll-free number by that date.

I just got my response back from TRW saying that they weren't
starting the free reports until April 30.  Sorry, don't know what
the number is right off-hand - I'll try and find the stuff they
sent me and report back.
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From: stu@voodoo.boeing.com (Stuart Liddle)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Sears Premier Dining club - scam alert!
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:37:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boeing Graphics project, Bellevue WA


I recently received a "membership" in the Premier Dining club which appears
to be affiliated with Sears.  I got a credit card-like plastic membership
card with my name and membership number embossed on it.  The deal was that
I could use it for free for the three month trial period after which I could
cancel by returning the card to them and telling them I want to cancel.  If
I did nothing with it (even if I just happened to toss the whole mess into
the trash where it belonged) I would be billed on my Sears account for $49!!

Well, this sounded a little fishy to me.  Especially since I had not requested
anything like this.  So I called the 800 number on the membership card and
explained this to the woman who answered the phone.  She (being the obedient
sales-droid) told me that it was a "FREE 3-month trial" and I could cancel
at any time by returning the card to them.  Also, I would be receiving the
full catalog of restaurants in a separate mailing (more stuff to recycle).  I
then asked if I would be getting a postage paid return envelope to use for
cancelling.  She told me that "No, you'll have to do that yourself."  After
I told her that I did not want to have to pay to cancel something that I had 
not ordered in the first place.  So, she said to cut up the card and they 
would cancel it.

I have sent all the information on this thing to the Wash. state Attorney
General office to complain about their sleazy tactics of automatically
signing people up for their club membership.

So, don't throw that mailing out, it just might be a clever tactic to enroll
you in something like this!
-- 
________________________________________
Stuart Liddle      (206) 865-6559 (wk)  \ "Growing older is a Major Lifestyle
BoGART Project     stu@voodoo.boeing.com \ Trend, potentially even bigger than
Boeing Comp. Svcs..uunet!bcstec!voodoo!stu\ cable television." - Dave Barry
From: fleckens@plains.NoDak.edu (Clint Fleckenstein)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: ***WARNING: BE CAREFUL WHEN DEALING WITH ALLSTATE INSURANCE!***
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:59:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.16639
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota Higher Ed Computing Network

In article <1992Apr9.192825.8032@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> stank@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Stan Krieger) writes:
>Clint Fleckenstein writes:
>
>>I wrote a letter to the adjuster stating that the responsibility of his
>>company is to restore my vehicle to its condition before the claim.....
>
>This is a perfect example of my posting a few days ago as to why auto
>insurance rates are so high. Cosmetic damage was done to the car, a low
>cost reasonable restoration was available, but the car owner wanted
>more.

I beg to differ.  A door with putty smooth across it is not the same as
an undamaged door.  Just because something looks the same does not make
it the same.  Plus, I stand to lose trade in value in June with such a
job done to my car.

I was not out to make a buck; I just wanted my car the way I left it
when I went in the house.  I should not be held liable for someone
else's negligence, and should not have to accept damage to my property
because of someone else's mistake.  If I wanted the whole car repainted
because of a dented rear quarter panel, however, I'd be way out of line.
In this situation, the difference was minor.

>Stan Krieger
>smk@usl.com

Clint

| Clint Fleckenstein  <fleckens@plains.nodak.edu>,  <fleckens@NDSUVM1>
|               <fleckens@next210.ndsu.nodak.edu> <fleckens@milo.uucp> 
| Master Control/Operations, KFYR TV 5 / KQCD TV 7        .5k EX Pilot
| My login and conduct don't belong to Meyer Broadcasting.   DoD #5150  
\________________________________________________________________________
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From: jvz@cci632.cci.com (John V. Zambito)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,rec.autos
Subject: Re: Attempted cheating by Sears Auto
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:23:59 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

>>BTW, My wife heard it through the 'mall' grapevine that this particular Sears
>>had dropped, YES DROPPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, not one but two cars off the auto
>>lifts.
>
>Not that I'd wish it on anyone, but man, I'd love to see that... :-)

When I was 17 I worked in a garage with a 19 year old named Kevin. 
One day he brought in his car and put it up on the lift to do an oil change.
I got a wrench to take off the rear-end inspection plug to check its
oil level. I put the wrench on the bolt and pushed up. The whole rear-end
started to go up. I jumped up and grabed onto the rear axle. Kevin was 
taking off the oil drain plug when the front end started to go down and 
he pushed up on the front but I was still going up. I was about 2 or 3 feet 
off the ground when I started to think I should let go and run before the car
went all the way over with me attached. Just then another guy who weighed 
about 275 pounds ran over and grabbed me by the waist and pulled down 
on me which put the car back down on the lift. We very carfully put the lift
down and centered the car better on the lift. We used to call Kevin "kluts" 
even before that.  Last I heard he was teaching shop at a high school in Vermont.
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: TRW Credit Agency Problems:  Where to Complain?
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:39:05 GMT

In article <1992Apr4.193744.5773@weyrich.UUCP> orville@weyrich.UUCP (Orville R.  
Weyrich) writes:
> Or, to take a more political view of the world, Congress is
> continuing to put more and more burden on employers,
> making it more and more cost effective to eliminate jobs
> in favor of computers that don't sue their employers for
> discrimination and harassment, aren't subject to
> rising health care and  retirement costs, don't need the
> employer to provide special support for  "handicapped"
> computers [e.g., computers that work fine except that
> they  have a dysfunctional graphics adaptor card that
> can't be replaced], can be decommissioned without 6
> months advance notice, aren't subject to employer 
> contributions to FICA and FUTA, can't be replaced if they
> cease to function  [e.g. go on strike, get sick or
> pregnant],  etc. 

Wee!  Let the flame-fest begin ;-)

Seriously, this doesn't belong in this group, so take it someplace
else, Mr. Weyrich.

--
Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
New Haven, CT
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)

Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: niebuhr@bnlux1.bnl.gov (david niebuhr)
Subject: Re: To Repair or Replace a TV
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Distribution: misc
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:06:30 GMT

In article <FAIGIN.92Apr6123947@soldan.aero.org> faigin@aero.org (Daniel P. Faigin) writes:
>We have an 11 year old, 26" color Zenith console TV. It looks like one of the
>color modules is finally dying; greens seem to come out a dark brown, and
>greys tend to lean towards the light purple. The TV, although it has a keypad
>tuner, does not have a remote, nor any of the newer features.
>
>Given the age of the beast, is it worth repairing? It looks like replacements
>would run in the range of $300-$600 plus tax. 
>
>Daniel
I'd junk the tv and get a new one.  The repair cost is not worth it for
an 11 year old set.

Dave



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Dave Niebuhr      Internet: niebuhr@bnl.gov / Bitnet: niebuhr@bnl
Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton, NY 11973  (516)-282-3093

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