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From: IFCSS Council <council@IFCSS.ORG>
Subject:      IFCSS Council News Release
Reply-To: IFCSS Council <council@IFCSS.ORG>
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:03:37 GMT
Comments: To: china-nt@uga.cc.uga.edu

   Dear IFCSS Members:

     The year of monkey is passing by and the year of rooster is coming. We,
all the IFCSS Council members thank you for your support in the past year
and wish we can cooperate even better in the coming year and wish you a happy
Chinese New Year.

Sincerely,

The fourth term IFCSS Council Members

  Dong, Liqun     U. of Washington          Northwest
  Fan, Hongran    U. of Miami               Southeast
  Huang, Songyun  U. of Arizona             Pacific
  Hwang, Kai      Virginia Tech.            Mid-Atlantic
  Li, Chenjian    Purdue U.                 Mid-west
  Li, Gang        Emory U.                  Southeast
  Li, Jinghong    U. of Dayton              Mid-west
  Li, Wenyan      New Mexico Highland U.    Southwest
  Liu, Yuhe       U. of Maryland            Mid-Atlantic
  Mu, Liyue       U. of Rochester           East
  Qi, Yenong      Oregon State              Northwest
  Qian, Jianjun   UT at Dallas              Southwest
  Shen, Tong      Foothill College, CA      Pacific
  Tang, Jianxin   Brandeis U.               Northeast
  Xu, Bing        U. of Penn.               East
  Xu, Yi          U. of Conneccticut        Northeast
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: European Parliament Resolution on Tibet
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:41:05 GMT

In article <C19758.1nu@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> richter@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (C. Richter) writes:
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>2. European Parliament Resolution on the Situation in Tibet
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Forwarded by Tica Broch in Geneva
> 
>   [This is the complete text of a resolution on Tibet that was adopted by 
>   the European Parliament on December 15, 1992.  All members present voted 
>   for the resolution, with the extreme left (Communists) and right (Le Pen) 
>   abstaining; so the resolution is considered to have the unanimous support 
>   of the European Parliament. -CR]
>                                
>Resolution A3-0369/92
> 
>The European Parliament, 
> 
Those Europes are joining U.S. to screw China. They put China on spotlight
while have an blind eye on theirown problem(Balkans).

This kind of "Chinese guilty" rhetoric may have two kinds of impact on Chinese
people, which we should be consciously avoided:
  1. Being embittled and becoming self-rightious indiscriminately. It often 
be manifested by actions that deliberately against those who verbally abuse
us, and serve no other purpose. 
  2. Become self-gulty all time,  apologitical, even self abusive. Those kind 
of Chinese can be easily identified in the net. 
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: UFDZ@UFPINE.BITNET
Subject:      re: china net maganer team
Reply-To: UFDZ@UFPINE.BITNET
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:23:00 GMT

        Please cast my vote, (4), keep the china net as is. the majority
of CSS need the china-net to know the truth.
                                Dawei Zhou
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: Diane <C0370@UNIVSCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Happy New Lunar Year!
Reply-To: Diane <C0370@UNIVSCVM.BITNET>
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:14:49 GMT

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Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: David Yuan <yuan@TERI.BIO.UCI.EDU>
Subject:      re: china net maganer team
Reply-To: David Yuan <yuan@TERI.BIO.UCI.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:53:56 GMT
Comments: To: CHINA-NT@uga.cc.uga.edu, UFDZ@UFPINE.BITNET

Please cast my vote too: if Mr. Dawei Zhou wants to change his behavior
pattern, then keep the way it is now.  Otherwise, eliminate it!

David Yuan
UC Irvine
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: Mr Haolin Ni <bss1hn@surrey.ac.uk>
Subject:      help!
Reply-To: Mr Haolin Ni <bss1hn@surrey.ac.uk>
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:56:45 GMT
Comments: To: china-nt@uga.cc.uga.edu

Dear sir/madame,

I am moving to Gaveston of Texas. Could any one provide some information about
 chinese society and accomdation in that island.

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: B118789@VAX.CSC.CUHK.HK
Subject:      Connection to Internet by PRC
Reply-To: B118789@VAX.CSC.CUHK.HK
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:25:00 GMT
Comments: To: china-nt@uga.cc.uga.edu

Does anyone have any news on the PRC's connection to the Internet. In
recent postings on this net it was indicated that the PRC had adopted
the TCP/IP Domain Naming System but that it had not yet adopted the
full TCP/IP protocol suite. Does anyone know what the precise problem
is, and when it is likely to be resolved?

Thanks in advance for your advice in this regard.

Bryce McIntyre, Ph.D.
The Chinese University of Hong Kong
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: UFDZ@UFPINE.BITNET
Subject:      forward for part CSS of U.F
Reply-To: UFDZ@UFPINE.BITNET
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:43:00 GMT

From:   PINE::WINS%"KFC@GNV.IFAS.UFL.EDU" 25-JAN-1993 18:37:43.94
To:     UFDZ
CC:
Subj:   An Open Letter to IFCSS Headquarters

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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:32:58 -0500
Reply-To:     KFC@GNV.IFAS.UFL.EDU
From:         KFC@GNV.IFAS.UFL.EDU
Subject:      An Open Letter to IFCSS Headquarters
Comments: To: china-net@uga.bitnet, council@venus.physics.emory.edu,
          ccnl@utarlvm1.uta.edu
To:           Multiple recipients of list CCNL <CCNL@UTARLVM1.UTA.EDU>

Dear Fellow Countrymen,

     We are tremendously pained at seeing that Mr. Zhao Hai-qing's
resignation has aroused so much controversy among Chinese students
and scholars. The controversy seems to have the tendency of getting
worsened. This is a regrettable state of affair that none of us
wish to see, because it is very likely to undermine our unity and
concerted efforts.
     We Chinese have a wise saying: "It is better to withdraw the
fire from underneath the boiling pot than trying to cool the soup
by stirring it (Yu2 Qi2 Yang2 Tang1 Zhi3 Fu2, Bu4 Ru2 Fu3 Di3 Chou1
Xin1). At this moment, we cannot afford any controversies and
disunity. An advisable way to restore peace and unity is to
reconsider Mr. Zhao Hai-qing's resignation. And a still better way
is not to accept it. The best way is to ask him to withdraw it.
     Some people believe that we Chinese are weak in resolving
internal differences through negotiations and compromises. We are
sure that under the wise leadership of IFCSS Headquarters, we can
prove them completely wrong.
     Best wishes for a stronger unity among Chinese students and
scholars.

                         Part of the Chinese Students and Scholars
                         at the University of Florida
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: jie@lotusMIT.Edu (Jie Zhang)
Subject: We Appeal Dr. Zhao to Come Back!
Reply-To: jie@lotusMIT.Edu (Jie Zhang)
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:55:52 GMT




	Appeal Dr. Zhao Haiqing to Come Back !

     We surprisingly learn that Dr. Zhao Haiqing resigned as the
Chairman of CCSA lately.  We have been trying to find the stories
behind and talking with other Chinese students who follow the news
more tightly.  It seems there are not OBIOUS and CLEAR reasons for
which Dr. Zhao has to stop serving us.  From all available articles
in the net, we only read a few words such as "power", "integrate",
"leadership" and "IFCSS".

     This situation catches our great concerns and worries!! Chinese
student and scholar activities, including the Protection Bill, need
many people to be involved and to sacrifice, like Dr. Zhao Haiqing
and other officials in IFCSS.  Dr. Zhao Haiqing, as one of unique
leaders in our community, made tremendous efforts in working on various
issues during last three years, particularly the issue of Protection
Bill.  We will never forget the time, the career, the money, ... he
sacrificed for us!  Clearly, at this time, we need to "integrate" more
people like Dr. Zhao Haiqing to work on the issue of the Protection Bill
more intensively as you all are awared.  We strongly appeal Dr. Zhao
Haiqing to come back!

     We understand, IFCSS need more attention from CCS as well as "power"
and "leadership".  However, this is not the right time and right issue
to gamble!  100,000 Chinese students and scholars are watching, so is
history!


     Some Chinese Students and Scholars at
     Massachusetts Institute of Technology
     Cambridge, Massachusetts
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: UFDZ@UFPINE.BITNET
Subject:      forward for part of CSS of U.F,
              because i did not receive it from China-nt
Reply-To: UFDZ@UFPINE.BITNET
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:46:00 GMT

From:   PINE::WINS%"KFC@GNV.IFAS.UFL.EDU" 25-JAN-1993 18:53:46.09
To:     UFDZ
CC:
Subj:   An Open Letter to Mr. Zhao Haiqing

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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:46:33 -0500
Reply-To:     KFC@GNV.IFAS.UFL.EDU
From:         KFC@GNV.IFAS.UFL.EDU
Subject:      An Open Letter to Mr. Zhao Haiqing
Comments: To: china-net@uga.cc.uga.edu, council@venus.physics.emory.edu,
          ccnl@utarlvm1.uta.edu
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Dear Mr. Zhao,

     We are extremely sorry to learn that your resignation has
caused so much controversy among many of the Chinese students and
scholars. This state of affairs is not what we want to see at this
juncture, because it will greatly hurt our joint efforts for our
common objective. To restore peace and unity among us Chinese
students and scholars, we sincerely request you to put Chinese
students and scholars' interest first and withdraw your resignation
as soon as possible. We are very sure that all the Chinese students
and scholars have appreciated and will continue to appreciate your
successful efforts in their interest.
     Wish you every success in your endeavor.


                              Part of Chinese Students and Scholars
                              at the University of Florida
From: hefa@ERE.UMontreal.CA (He Fangliang)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
Subject: To Be A Beautiful Chinese
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:39:05 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Happy Chinese New Year!
I am a frequent reader of this newsgroup and others and very happy
to see that many nice persons contribute their time and effort to
make this newsgroup better. But there is something I feel quite
annoyed. Why there are so much disagreement and even quarrel? Is it
becasue politics is real dirty? or because Chinese are real 'ugly'?
For what are you fighting? My brothers (and sisters?). For power?
For US dollar? Or for justness? Personally, I believe politics is
dirty. But it does not mean politician is necessarily dirty.
Please just to be a BEAUTIFUL Chinese, not a ugly one.
Thanks a lot.

Fangliang He
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: ping@bnlux1.bnl.gov (Shiping Zhang)
Subject: Re: European Parliament Resolution on Tibet
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:20:07 GMT

In article <C19I8J.Gw@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>Those Europes are joining U.S. to screw China. They put China on spotlight
>while have an blind eye on theirown problem(Balkans).
>
>This kind of "Chinese guilty" rhetoric may have two kinds of impact on Chinese
>people, which we should be consciously avoided:
>  1. Being embittled and becoming self-rightious indiscriminately. It often 
>be manifested by actions that deliberately against those who verbally abuse
>us, and serve no other purpose. 

  Who want to avenge CCP government being critisized?

>  2. Become self-gulty all time,  apologitical, even self abusive. Those kind 
>of Chinese can be easily identified in the net. 

  Who want to feel guilty for CCP government's crimes?

  The answers will give you some ideas about the answer to another question:
  WHY do they want to do so?  And it won't be difficult to answer yet another
  question:  Can they consciously avoid doing so?

-ping

Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: UFDZ@UFPINE.BITNET
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
Subject: forward for part of CSS of U.F,
              I did not receive this from china-nt
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:44:00 GMT
Reply-To: UFDZ@UFPINE.BITNET
Organization: Indiana University

From:   PINE::WINS%"KFC@GNV.IFAS.UFL.EDU" 25-JAN-1993 18:45:12.34
To:     UFDZ
CC:
Subj:   An Open Letter to All Chinese Students and Scholars

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From:         KFC@GNV.IFAS.UFL.EDU
Subject:      An Open Letter to All Chinese Students and Scholars
Comments: To: china-net@uga.cc.uga.edu, council@venus.physics.emory.edu,
          ccnl@utarlvm1.uta.edu
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Dear Fellow Countrymen and Countrywomen,

     We are watching, with a mixed emotion, recent events
concerning Mr. Zhao Hai-qing's resignation and the responses to our
urgent appeal of January 17th. We feel glad that more and more
Chinese students and scholars have shown enthusiastic interest in
our common cause, but at the same time we feel a little bit uneasy
about the controversy over Mr. Zhao's resignation which may
threaten our unity and joint efforts. We, therefore, appeal to all
Chinese students and scholars to keep calm and to resolve our
internal differences through negotiations and compromises. It is
believed by many people that we Chinese are not very good at
achieving unity through compromise. Now is the time to prove that
fallacy wrong. We are sure that we, the Chinese students and
scholars in the United States who have received high education in
science and democracy can succeed in resolving any internal
problems among ourselves.
     Let us put ourselves to the challenge!
     Let us re-emerge stronger and more united than ever before!


                         Part of the Chinese Students and Scholars
                         at the University of Florida
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: UFDZ@UFPINE.BITNET
Subject:      Re:Re: clear and open politics
Reply-To: UFDZ@UFPINE.BITNET
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:41:00 GMT

        Dear Mr. Zhang,
        I think Hou Jun-wei is innocent, but who spread the rumor
in purpose does owe a apology to Dr. Zhao haiqing and the CSS society.
Who organazed the action to remove Zhao owe an apology to the CSS
society. But that is not important at this moment. The very important
thing is let Geng and Zhao once again work together. Zhao's resignation
did not mention the time when will be effective, and council has not
approve his resignation, also council has not aprove the new nominee
yet. I think the best solution is Zhao continue his post as the chairman
of CCSA/IFCSS under the leadership of HQ/IFCSS. My many friends, play
clear and open politics, no more trick this time.
        together! we can make a difference!
        Happy new year, everyone!
                                Dawei Zhou

attached:


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From:   edu%"hzhang@ecn.purdue.edu" 21-JAN-1993 23:03:01.13
To:     UFDZ%UFPINE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
CC:
Subj:   Re:  Clear and open politics again

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From: hzhang@ecn.purdue.edu (BRIAN H. ZHANG)
Message-Id: <9301220401.AA14277@bank.ecn.purdue.edu>
To: UFDZ%UFPINE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject: Re:  Clear and open politics again

Happy new year to all of you on China-NT, and to you, Dr. Zhou.

If I have to be candid, I would have to say many of your
postings lack a clear logic. Would you please be careful
and thoughtful to the readers? And be a responsible man
when you post.

On the recent Junwei Hou's post. You could be right in saying
that Mr. Hou was spreading rumor, who knows. But, you have
not provided a single credible fact to show us that Dr. Zhao
did not do that. What on earth can anyone prove anything just
by asking the "charged"? I do not get it. And just with that,
you have posted several times on the networks.

Finally, your recent post was supposedly to respond with Mr. Hou
only, but why do you have to give everyone of us a copy?

Be constructive. If there is a problem, let us work it out and
solve it. Problem can not go away just by blaming each other.
But one has to have the courage to say "I am wrong" if one has
done something wrong. No one is perfect, whether it is IFCSS, or
Dr. Zhao, or anyone else. Give credit to what was done right,
and discipline (if you will) if what was done wrong. Well, I
guess I should stop here.

Again, Happy New Year and wish the coming year will be
prosperous to all of you.

-H. Zhang from Purdue>>
From: williamt@athena.Eng.Sun.COM (Dances with Drums)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: Ecstasy
Followup-To: talk.politics.drugs,alt.psychoactives
Date: 23 Jan 1993 16:24:00 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Reply-To: williamt@athena.Eng.sun.com (Dances with Drums)
NNTP-Posting-Host: athena

In article <1993Jan22.073132.3739@news.yale.edu> FRICHARD@biomed.med.yale.edu (Frank Richardson) writes:
>On the contrary, I would say that it is quite neurotoxic. Ecstacy causes a
>profound release of the neurotrasmitter serotonin. It over stimulates the cells
>so much they usually die. In rodents, as much as 80% of the serotonergic
>neurons were lost.
---
	Yet similar studies performed with primates have not yielded such
results.  Rats != humans.  Also the amounts given to the rats were far
in excess of what humans would take.  Something like 5 times the normal dose
given every 2 hours for 48 hours.  

	Also with millions of X users over the past 10 or more years, there has
not been one recorded or mentioned case of human brain damage.  You 
might think that if it was so dangerous, there might be at least 1 example.

	I remember a similar study was done with marijuana back in the 70's
with chimps that showed that pot caused brain damage -- amazing how many
people still believe that study.  Anyway, the way the study was performed,
was they gave the equivalent of 70 joints of marijuana to the chimps
with a mask strapped on their face for a period of 5 minutes -- no
oxygen.  Brain damage occurs in 4 minutes in an absence of oxygen.  They
repeated the experiment every day for about 2-3 months.  After that time,
they noticed that the chimps began evidencing signs of brain damage.
After the way the experiment was performed became public (under the FOI act) --
it had been kept secret before that, the study was no longer used as
a justification for the claim of brain damange.  Unfortunately, like alot
of government disinformation campaigns -- they just start it, then 
allow the sheep-like masses to propagate the misinformation.

	There are similar studies with LSD -- that got alot of press on
negative effects, but later debunking of those studies was given no press.

-wat-
-- 

:: If pro-choice means choice after conception, does this apply to men too? ::
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