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From: vln@icpsr.umich.edu (Victoria Neff)
Subject: Re: Fabriholics Anonymous
Organization: Inter-University Consortium for Political and Social Research
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:54:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.194439.24718@cbfsb.cb.att.com> motto@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (mary.rita.otto) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.190634.26570@terminator.cc.umich.edu> vln@icpsr.umich.edu (Victoria Neff) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep2.155930.421@cbfsb.cb.att.com> motto@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (mary.rita.otto) writes:
>I've deleted my own previous rantings to make room for new ones.
>>
>>Oh come on, Mary.  If you're still using fiber that someone else has
>>prepared for you, you haven't broken the SURFACE of Fiber Temptations.  ;-)
>
>Vicki - 
>This is post is only an admission of my "fabric problem". I didn't even
>attempt to address cross-stitch, knitting (hand and machine), crochet,
>tablet weaving, wearable art, beadwork, jewelery making or any of the
>"home decor" (dried/silk flowers, tole painting, etc). (major giggles)

Oh yeah!!  And there's my ceramics tools in the basement (though I did manage
to toss all the containers of dried-out glazes)....

>
>Yikes.  Is that the only way?  To come clean about all of it?  To confess
>that I have approximately 480 cubit feet of sewing and craft supplies and
>feel like I should have a catalog like Clotilde?  Oh, who knew recovery
>would be so difficult.  But I will face my problems, and tack them to
>the seam allowances so they don't roll out.  I may feel frayed, but
>I will serge on with every fiber of my being.  I will overcome the shear
>bulk of my problems ...
>
>Sorry.  Got a little carried away.

 :-)

I wonder how many of us there are that like to dabble in everything.  I
admire people like Elizabeth Zimmerman, who just stick to one thing and
do it excellently, but I know myself for a dilletante....

>>
>>In addition to my large collection of un-sewn fabric, I also have several
>>sheep fleeces, mohair fleece, angora, and silk in various stages of 
>>preparation......
>>
>I've been saved from that fate by allergies to animal fibers.  :(

Cotton!!  I forgot cotton!  It doesn't go in the same dyepot as the animal
fibers, but I have cotton to spin!!  No flax, though.....

>
>Mary "I am a Fabriholic" Otto

Vicki "I want to do it all" Neff


Newsgroups: alt.sewing,rec.crafts.textiles
From: cindyf@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Cindy Ferguson)
Subject: Re: A yes for rec.crafts.quilting
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:47:02 GMT


Could someone post the address of quilting mailing list?  I'd love
to be on it!

Cindy
cindyf@eos.arc.nasa.gov
From: motto@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (mary.rita.otto)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Fabriholics Anonymous
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:44:39 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep2.190634.26570@terminator.cc.umich.edu> vln@icpsr.umich.edu (Victoria Neff) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.155930.421@cbfsb.cb.att.com> motto@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (mary.rita.otto) writes:
I've deleted my own previous rantings to make room for new ones.
>
>Oh come on, Mary.  If you're still using fiber that someone else has
>prepared for you, you haven't broken the SURFACE of Fiber Temptations.  ;-)

Vicki - 
This is post is only an admission of my "fabric problem". I didn't even
attempt to address cross-stitch, knitting (hand and machine), crochet,
tablet weaving, wearable art, beadwork, jewelery making or any of the
"home decor" (dried/silk flowers, tole painting, etc). (major giggles)

Yikes.  Is that the only way?  To come clean about all of it?  To confess
that I have approximately 480 cubit feet of sewing and craft supplies and
feel like I should have a catalog like Clotilde?  Oh, who knew recovery
would be so difficult.  But I will face my problems, and tack them to
the seam allowances so they don't roll out.  I may feel frayed, but
I will serge on with every fiber of my being.  I will overcome the shear
bulk of my problems ...

Sorry.  Got a little carried away.

>
>In addition to my large collection of un-sewn fabric, I also have several
>sheep fleeces, mohair fleece, angora, and silk in various stages of 
>preparation......
>
I've been saved from that fate by allergies to animal fibers.  :(

>And only back to '85???  I'm sure I can go back as far as the '70s, though
>I DID toss the polyester doubleknit left over from my Stretch-n-Sew class
>when I last moved.....  ;-)

The scary thing is that we live in a townhouse with no basement, garage,
or attic, and that we just moved in last May.  The pre-1985 stuff was
destroyed in a flood in ... you guessed it... 1985.  The 1985 project has
been moved to new homes 4 times.

>
>  -- Vicki (who is going to start dyeing RIGHT after a garage sale
>            to get rid of the baby clothes that are knee-deep
>	    in my sewing room.....)
>


Mary "I am a Fabriholic" Otto
From: sallyh@StarConn.com (Sally Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Rayon/Sand-washed Rayon
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:08:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Starnet-Public Access UNIX--Los Altos, CA  415-949-3133

fred@eng.umd.edu (David Young) writes:


>Now, for the subject of sandwashed rayon.

>1.  the lovely sandwashed feel disappears when it is machine washed
>and hung to dry.

You can get  it back by using lots of conditioner in the final rinse and
drying it in the dryer.

Sally Hoolmes
sallyh@starconn.com
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: banderso@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Betty Lise Anderson)
Subject: Fabric following you home...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:15:37 GMT



I've been following this thread of fabric (sandwashed rayon in particular)
grabbing one while one is going past and following one home.

It reminds me of when I was the costume coordinator for a folk dance troup. I
was have to go look for plaids "that looked Slavonian" or very specifically
described cotton floral prints for Mezosegi (in Hungarian transylvania) or
a specific type of wool for Romainan aprons- that was years ago but I still
am programmed for them- whenever I see the right, say, cotton print, I think
"Oh, I better buy this quick in case we ever do that dance again" (I am no
longer in the same troup or even the same part of the country!) before I catch 
myself.

Anyhow, I remember in particular one of the other costume people and I would
be walking through the fabric store, and she would actually call "Jump out!
Jump out!" to the fabric. (We would get pretty silly.) To this day, another
sewing friend and I still call "Jump out!" to the fabric (softly, so as not
to disturb the other shoppers) and if we can't find what we want, it's not
the store, it's not us, it's the fabric itself, which is too shy.
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: ceb@dbrus.Unify.Com (Caroline E. Bryan)
Subject: Re: Getting gum out of clothes
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 20:23:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.220012.6435@iscsvax.uni.edu> klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>In article <Btq41G.A43@acsu.buffalo.edu>, birgenom@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (T.B. Shows/ Maureen Sion) writes:
>> 
>> Hi! Does anyone know how to get gum out of clothes?
>
>If you can get a bit of dry ice, hold the dry ice on the gum (wear heavy 
>gloves!) for a couple of minutes, then try popping the gum off the fabric
>with something blunt -- a blow from a table knife handle often works well.
>
>Residue (if any) will come out with a non-polar solvent like naptha or
>Citru-solve.

What's always worked for me is Tide and the normal cycle of the washing
machine.


Carrie		ceb@rechenau.unify.com	x6244
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From: szakhour@next.com (Sharon Zakhour)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Sandwashed Rayon
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:45:47 GMT
Reply-To: szakhour@next.com (Sharon Zakhour)

> 
> PS... What's the difference between sand washed rayon and rayon challis?

You're comparing apples to oranges.  Rayon is the fiber.  Challis is the type  
of weave.  You could have a silk challis, for example.  Sand washing is a  
process (actually there's more than one process used to create this effect)  
which stresses and softens a fabric.  In the case of rayon, the process used  
creates a slight uneven coloring and extra drape.  Most of the sandwashed  
rayons I have seen used a rayon broadcloth as the base as opposed to a rayon  
challis.

You can "sandwash" your own fabrics at home -- particularly silk.  I've  
sandwashed silk and linen very effectively.  I've posted the directions in the  
past and I could dig them up if anyone is interested but the information is  
also available in several publications (The Singer Sewing Reference book comes  
to mind).

Sharon Zakhour 
sharon@next.com
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer)
Subject: Re: Getting gum out of clothes
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 04:03:54 GMT

On 29 Aug 92 02:24:00 GMT, birgenom@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (T.B. Shows/ Maureen Sion) said:

Maureen> Hi! Does anyone know how to get gum out of clothes?

Dis-Solv-It or Citru-Solv.  Works on gum in hair, too.

--
Mary Shafer  DoD #0362 KotFR NASA Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA
shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov                    Of course I don't speak for NASA
 "There's no kill like a guns kill." LCDR "Hoser" Satrapa, gunnery instructor
                       "A kill is a kill."  Anonymous
Xref: sparky alt.sewing:2530 rec.arts.startrek.misc:8689
From: wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: StarTrek Costume Patterns
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:56:57 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

cokus@icase.edu (Cindy Cokus) writes:


>Hello, all!

>My name is Cindy Cokus, and I want to make a Star Trek costume for my husband.  However,
>I'm having problems locating a pattern.  Does anybody know where I can get one?  Or who
>I should contact to find one?

>Please e-mail me, since I don't often get a chance to read news.

>Thanks in advance!
>Cindy Cokus
>cokus@icase.edu

	Cindy, there are two companies that sell these (possibly more).
First, Lincoln Enterprises, which is or was run by Majel Barrett-Roddenberry
has some patterns.  Intergalactic Trading Company of Florida also has
them.  One of the major companies, I think it was Simplicity, DID offer
(don't know if it is still out there) an early Next Generation pattern.

	Fabric/color selection has always been a problem for these.  If
you investigate with enough vigor, you may be able to find the right stuff
or get VERY close to it.  One or more of the patterns even suggests
buying white fabirc and dying it to the correct colors.  Yecch, what
a pain.....

	Intergalactic also has a number of the pins and widgets you need
to complete these.  for the Next Generation communicator pin, there is even
an electronic soundboard to make the little squeebing noise when you touch
the thing!

	Unfortunately, I do not have these addresses here at work - if you
visit your local magazine rack and find the Trek magazines and/or the
latest issues of Starlog magazine, you should find that Intergalactic
Trading Company is a regular advertiser in one or more.

	Good luck - if you really get in a bind for information, email
me and I'll try to dig up what I can.....

Duane
wb9omc@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu
From: delena@roth-music.com (Delena E. Roth)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: advice on making a man's shirt
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 20:40:58 EST
Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC
Reply-To: delena@roth-music.com (Delena E. Roth)
Distribution: usa
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <4040@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us> (alt.sewing), bekowski@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us (Rebecca Churchbells Bekowski) writes:
> 
> 
> ...he asked me to make him a shirt...  said he'd love to
> wear something i'd made for him...
> 
> 
> gak!  Making a man's shirt seems so formidable to this
> novice sewer.                
> 
> Can someone recommend a nice pattern or at least forward the
> assurance that it's not so hard to do...  or recommend an
> easier thing I could make for him...
> 
> Any advice or ideas around the matter will be greatly appreciated!
> 
> 
I just made two shirts for my husband, and they fit him really well!
 I used McCall's 5781 ("The 3-hour shirt by Palmer & Pletsch").  The
instructions have lots of little tips to help you along (like making
a cardboard template for the pocket so you can make perfectly rounded
corners, etc.).

Probably the hardest thing about making shirts is doing the buttonholes.
 My *old* Singer just has instructions for making buttonholes using
zig-zag stiches (no fancy buttonhole foot or anything).  I just practiced
making buttonholes several times using a large swatch of the same 
fabric/facing/interfacing as on the shirt until I had them down. 
As a matter of fact, I always practice at least one buttonhole on
a scrap of fabric to at least make sure I'm making them the right
size.  Just be patient and practice a little, and you'll be able to
get them right.

I would strongly recommend the Palmer/Pletsch pattern.  The fit was
excellent, and as a novice you will probably appreciate the detailed
instructions.  (They even have a section at the beginning showing
various kinds of seam finishes.)

Not affiliated with anyone, just a happy camper who recently returned
to sewing after about 15 years away.

Good luck,

Delena
Xref: sparky alt.sewing:2531 rec.crafts.textiles:1550
From: rrah@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Runa Rahman)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing,rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Burda Slopers
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:31:42 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Following up on the recent discussion on slopers...

It recently dawned upon me that I should finally make a sloper instead of
punishing myself with figuring out alterations on a pattern-by-pattern basis.
I have some of Rusty Bensussen's books which recommend this (I like her books -
they're fun to read and a good source of ideas).

I bought the Burda "Studio" basic patterns for a long-sleeved fitted dress 
and for darted pants.  I plan to try them out this week with some muslin I
bought on sale.  The instructions for alterations look pretty good, and I've
always had good luck with Burda patterns in any case.

I thought I'd mention this in case anyone else was looking for sloper patterns.
If anyone has already used these and can contribute, please do so :)

Runa
From: ber@otter.hpl.hp.com (Brenda Romans)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 07:54:54 GMT
Subject: Re: Fabriholics Anonymous
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: alt.sewing

SUCCESS STORY----

I managed to kick one habit.  I had lots of balls of knitting wool and just
about every size of needle that I could want, including a range of circular
ones.  In addition to the storage problem was the fact that I can't knit.  Not
very well any way, I could knit a scarf thing on a circular needle because you
don't need to purl or get edges straight.  I was also collecting knitting
patterns, both easy ones and ones that I might aspire to one day.

One day I just gave it all away (and the macrame stuff) and never felt a
twinge.  I can't knit and I've conditioned myself not to try again.


NOT SO SUCCESSSFUL----

I have a lot of fabric, and an enormous pile of sewing patterns.  I get around
to making something every so often so then I feel really virtuous and go and
buy some more.  If I feel down I might just go to my favorite shop and just buy
a pattern or two or three.  And of course, when I want to make something
particular I never have the right stuff.

It's nice to know I'm not alone :-)

Cheers

Brenda



Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: cfeem@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Eleanor Midkiff)
Subject: Re: Fabriholics Anonymous
Summary: Thank you 
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 22:06:32 GMT
Expires: ?
Organization: Eastern Illinois University
Keywords: Are we all like this?
Followup-To: net

Thanks, folks.  I can't tell you how much better I feel after reading
everyone else's confessions.

I may go out to the trunk and check out the polyester doubleknit, just to
see if it's still there.  And then look over my modest piles of 1992
fabric and stop feeling guilty.  After all, I've only got three blouses, a
jumpsuit, a window seat, and a suit unmade (and the suit is already cut
out!).

Wouldn't it be nice if we could all get together and sew, instead of just
talking about it?


-- 
Eleanor Midkiff
(cfeem@eiu.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: motto@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (mary.rita.otto)
Subject: Fabriholics Anonymous
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:59:30 GMT



It's not just sandwashed rayon, you know.

It can be anything.  Like the six different pieces of Halloween fabric
that cried out "Make us into 100 bean bags for the Kindergarten and
First Grade Halloween parties!"  (The kids toss them thru a target and
then get to keep the bean bags as a "treat".)  Like the printed Halloween
banners to hang on front and back doors.  Like the pheasant and grouse
print panels for pillows that would look great in my Dad's living room.
Like the printed panel to make a stuffed "bass" to mount as a "trophy"
that my son really, REALLY, oh, please, Mommy, wanted.

I brought it home on the last day of August and put in on the pile on
top of the Christmas in July Sale purchases.  Right next to the cut out
pieces of a sleeveless dress for my daughter.  And on the other side of the
room from the trunk full of purchases dating back as far as 1985.

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And now, Service Merchandise has a White Powerlock Serger for sale for
only $279.  I admit that I have lusted in my heart for a Serger for
about a year.  But my budget!!!!!

Can I be saved?  Or will my condition worsen, leading to ... it's almost
too awful to admit ... quilting?

%)

Mary Otto
From: koo@tcville.edsg.hac.com (Frances Koo)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Sewing Machine Recommendations
Keywords: Need a sewing machine
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:32:46 GMT
Reply-To: koo@tcville.UUCP (Frances Koo)
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Co., El Segundo, CA

In article <laa1b6INNe5f@west.west.sun.com> woodsy@gecko-az.West.Sun.COM 
writes:
>Hi,  My wife is looking into buying another sewing machine,
 [stuff deleted]
>what might she be able to get for her Singer either on the open market or
>from a trade in?

  There is a Blue Book for sewing machines.  I think some store owners
  refer to this for trade-ins.

  Happy hunting! 

  Frances (koo@tcville.hac.com)
From: goldberg@eldyn.gsfc.nasa.gov (Patti Twigg)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: sewing machines
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:33:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD, USA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

Hi all. I know this a  FAQ, and I have read the lsit of reccommended
machines. I have a slightly different question. I currently have
a PFAFF machine that is a hand-me-down from my sister-in-law.
I sew infrequently, so it was nice to not have to buy a machine.
The problem is that it seems like I have to have it tuned up
a lot. If not, it starts skipping stitches, and doing other nasty
things. The tune up can cost between 50 and 100 dollars, so I am
starting to wonder if it wouldn't be better to just get another
machine. I have been told that PFAFF's have this problem - they
need frequent tune ups. Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
Please e-mail me, since I do not usually read this group. Thanks
for any help!
                            Patti Twigg
                            STPAT@lepvax.gsfc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: fran@Cadence.COM (Fran Peterson)
Subject: Re: confessions & request for help/advice/solace
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:46:42 GMT

In article <36837@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> george@webb.psych.ufl.edu (Stephanie George) writes:
>
>
>I still intended to make pants and so I carefully ironed it, folded it in
>preparation for cutting, matched the plaids and basted the two sides 
>together and cut out 2 leg fronts or backs I don't remember which.  This
>stuff turned into a nightmare!  The fabric was all over the place - slinking
>and slithering off the table (my cat attacking the tissue pattern pieces I
>was trying to pin down didn't help either).

Have you tried a product called "No More Pins"?  The first time I used it
it came in a little bottle and you put in on like glue.  Now I buy it in
a spray can.  It is a temporary fabric glue that washes out.  It doesn't
hurt your sewing machine needles.  There are so many things I use it for
that it would take up to much time and net space to list them.  But the
biggest items are zippers, buttons (holds them in place while I slide them
under the foot on my machine), hems, matching plaids and stripes, etc.
In fact, just about any time you need to pin or baste you can use it.  

I have no connection or do not stand to gain from the sale of this product.
I just share your frustrations.

Fran Peterson
fran@Cadence.com

F [:)
>Please tell me that I'm not alone.
>Stephanie

You are definitely not alone!
From: woodsy@gecko-az.West.Sun.COM (Mike Woods SUN Phoenix CSD 602-275-5537 x35)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Sewing Machine Recommendations
Date: 2 Sep 1992 18:18:14 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: woodsy@gecko-az.West.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: gecko-az.west.sun.com
Keywords: Need a sewing machine

Hi,  My wife is looking into buying another sewing machine, (currently owns a Singer Merritt 9612)
and would like to get some comparitive information.  Can you supply comparitive data and or
personal recommendations.  She is sewing for friends, relatives, neighbors, etc...(clothes, & window
treatments).  In addition, what might she be able to get for her Singer either on the open market or
from a trade in?
From: conib@peri.gvg.tek.com (Coni Britten)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Rayon/Sand-washed Rayon
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:03:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <15195@umd5.umd.edu> fred@eng.umd.edu (Silvia) writes:

>I am very happy with the pants except for the fact that the rayon
>seems to be wearing out faster than an equivalent wool.  Two
>summers seem to have done them in.


This is exactly why I will NEVER sew with rayon.  It's a weak fiber, the
weakest according to the experts, therefore if you sew with the stuff
you've got to expect a very short life span for the resulting garment.
Yes, I know, rayon has improved and it's not as weak as it used to be,
but it's still the hands-down worst.

Granted, a good merino wool challis is easily twice (or more) the price
of the imitation rayon challis, but I'll still have the garment (that I
put so much effort into) 10 years later, looking just as wonderful as it
did when I first made it.  (I'm speaking from experience here; I still
wear two beautiful merino wool challis skirts that I originally made over
10 years ago)  Plus, the wool challis is such a joy to work with.  In
any case, you can make a merino wool challis skirt for less than the
price of an equivalent quality ready-to-wear rayon challis skirt (which
is all the justification I need; YMMV.)

Also, I recommend Thai Silk's sandwashed silks for price and quality.
Real silk is (for me, at least) FAR easier to work with than either the
rayon or polyester imitations.  And I've found that it's often the case
that Thai Silk's prices are competitve with even the imitation fabrics'
prices!

Oh well, my 2 cent's worth on Rayon, the Waste of Money Fabric.

:-)


Coni B.
conib@peri.gvg.tek.com