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  When I was about six years old I discovered a lump of gum firmly attached
to the side of my penis.  My dad removed it (the gum, that is) with some
sort of solvent--my dad was very much into solvents and chemicals like that.
(I think the gum found me when I was swimming.)

  At the moment I'm wondering why I'm sharing this . . .

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu)
Subject: Re: A Balanced Diet (Was Re: Halloween Stories)
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 17:00:40 GMT

In article <119450009@hpsmtc1.cup.hp.com> kperdue@hpsmtc1.cup.hp.com (Karla Perdue) writes:
>
>Judy, or anyone else but Judy has been the strongest proponent:
>
>If you decide to start a "eat what and when you want" program with a
>5 yo in Kindergartten, when you have been regulating her diet in the
>past, what about the following issues:
>
> - This issue of waste is significant for me (another discussion) and I have
>   tried to follow a general rule "eat what you take".  She get a fair amount
>   of control over what she takes (the "eat what and when you want" program
>   would have me change this to give her complete control over what she takes),
>   but then has to eat that.  Sometimes her eyes are bigger than her stomach.
>   She can always go back for more, except when we run out which is seldom,
>   so there is little benefit to taking a lot all at once.  How can one merge
>   a negative attitude toward waste with a lenient attitude for what IS eaten?
>   Can "eat what you take" be compatible with "eat what and when you want"?
>
> - What happens when the child is at school (where there are fixed times
>   when snacks/lunch are allowed)?  She does have all her day's food in her
>   lunch pail and so can control what and how much she eats at one time, but
>   the teachers control WHEN these times are.  In my case, she gets at least
>   some say in what goes into the lunch pail.
>
> - What if your child spends a significant amount of time in someone else's
>   house (divorced parent, in-home daycare, playing with friend) where this
>   time is long enough to include significant eating times (all day or even
>   multiple days at a stretch)?  These other adults may not go along with
>   the program.  What affect does this have on the child's eating habits?
>
>Thanks for any additional input on these issues.  I am very interested in to
>topic.

  So am I.  My mother-in-law runs a continual feeding station where Tony
  gets to eat what and when he wants.  The problem is that on weekends
  Tony usually ends up eating less because he wastes so much food.  He'll
  say he's hungry, then eat a little bit and then refuse to eat more.
  Since I'm not into food-pushing, I just let it go, and end up eating
  up his stuff (so as not to waste it).  About 1/2 hour later he wants
  some more, but if he heat up some more, he'll eat a little bit and run
  off.  I don't have unlimited left-overs or Chunky soup, or Libby's dinners
  for him to go through, so I want to implement a more structured eating
  environment.  Besides, as Karla points out, when he goes to school, they
  will only get to eat during certain times.  Similarly when he starts
  going to day-care, after my mother-in-law moves back to Puerto Rico.
  So far he diets on the weekend, eating a little here and there, and
  stuffs himself on the weekdays.
From: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Completely confused about bacteria and sterilization
Date: 9 Nov 1992 22:14:04 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
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millerj@belize.crd.ge.com (Julia) writes:
|> 	I have a 5 month old that I'm about to start on cereal and havee
|> realized that I don't have a clue as to why some things are sterilized,
|> some aren't and the whole issue of bacteria....  

My baby's six months old, and I've decided that the same rules I use for 
my own food should work for him, too. If only I could keep him to the same 
rules as I follow! Yesterday I removed the bits of used tissue from his 
mouth just in time to prevent him from ingesting the dead bug that was 
wrapped up in it. Wait a minute, this child can't crawl yet, I thought I 
was safe from picking up every single lost item for a couple of days yet.

These are my conclusions for a baby old enough to put everything in his/her 
mouth (not for a very young baby):

I think that if you taste the milk--frozen, thawed, partailly drunk from, 
whatever--and it tastes sweet, then you're safe. Sugars ferment faster 
than proteins rot, so anything with lots of sugar is safe if it passes 
the taste test. Mold is bad, but I can detect that nasty taste of mold 
at parts per billion, I'm sure. (Don't tell me mold must be good since 
penicillin is made from mold--it's not a good conclusion. E-mail me if 
you want details.) Things with protein but no sugar in them, I'm more 
careful with. Everything over a week old gets tossed. My pediatrician 
says that you're not supposed to put the food that the baby's used spoon 
has been in back into the fridge, but that he and his wife did it and his 
babies never suffered from it.

A few bacteria won't hurt--a huge amount will overwhelm the baby's defenses 
and make him/her sick.

Dissenting views, anyone? I'd like to see them.

Paula Burch
pburch@bcm.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Subject: Re: Hearing baby's heartbeat at 9 weeks??
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:48:44 GMT

When I was pregnant with Jeffrey, my OB/GYN told me that the next time I
wouldl come in, I would be 10 weeks pregnant, and that he would try and 
find a heart beat. He told me it may be a little to early, and if he
didnt find it, we would try again in a week. 

I told myself all day before that appointment, that I wouldnt freak if he
didnt find it. It took him quite a while to find it, and the whole time I
realized that I was not going to take it well if we didnt find it. But we
did! Just barely. Actually, it just sounded like staic to me. I heard it
much better at the 14 week appointment.

Laura Floom

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: shams@astrals.portal.com (Sharon Zakhour)
Subject: Re: Doula/husband as coach questions
Organization: Astral Software
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:24:21 GMT


Well, I just had my first child almost EXACTLY 3 days ago (on Thursday at  
4:58pm) and we had arranged to have a labor assistant present (a lay  
midwife).  In fact I referred to this in a recent posting.

My husband felt that he wanted help throughout the labor process.  It  
seemed overwhelming to him despite the fact that he was excited about it  
and well prepared for it -- as prepared as one can be, anyway. 

Anyway, I found that once I was in actual hard labor, I didn't want ANYONE  
else around but him.  He was completely sufficient.  We sent the midwife  
home and told my sister not to show up.  I didn't expect I would feel this  
way, but once I was in incredible pain, I wanted it to be very private --  
just my husband.  

And as for him not being experienced enough... this was not a problem.  I  
think any caring sensitive person that loves you can act as the coach.   
It's not like he needed to be medical.  He needed to give me support, tell  
me I could do it, rub my back, give me ice and fluids, and just love me.   
(OK... he also held the container that I would throw up in and he also  
held my legs during my 3 hours of pushing.)

And I think he did all that stuff amazingly well.  I would recommend that  
you try to think back on some time when you were in great pain.  How did  
you react?  Did you want people present to support you?  Or did you want  
them to go away except for maybe one person close to you.  If I had  
thought about this ahead of time, I might have realized that having other  
people at the birth would not have been a good idea for me.

I'll be posting the birth story/announcement soon.  Right now my little  
girl is sitting beside me in her bouncer seat hiccupping away.  Her  
hiccips are causing the seat to bounce and she's finding this phenomenon  
very interesting.

Sharon Zakhour
shams@astrals.portal.com  <--- while on maternity leave
sharon@next.com  <--- when I go back to work in 4 months
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: reg@dptg.att.com (51351[efw]-Regina Mackiewicz(MT4799)1374MT)
Subject: Invitro Information Wanted
Organization: AT&T BL Middletown/Lincroft NJ USA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:11:26 GMT

Does anyone have any information, first hand experience on Invitro
fertilization?  is there a FAQ file laying about??

a friend of mine in New Jersey is trying to weigh the pros and cons and
would appreciate some net wisdom.  she is looking for risks (pergonal),
costs(on average), success rate, rate of multiple births as a result, 
and any other experiences.
are there any qualifications one has to meet in order to be a candidate?
age factor, previous pregnancy experiences . . .

in NJ what is the average length of time to get a first appointment?
what is the average length of time before the procedure is done?


thanks

reg



Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: reg@dptg.att.com (51351[efw]-Regina Mackiewicz(MT4799)1374MT)
Subject: Re: Pergonal Therapy
Organization: AT&T/NCR, Lincroft, NJ, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:37:25 GMT

i had trouble responding back to the pergonal therapy also.

***
my friend had peganol treatment with no success.  it was very mood altering,
she had water retention and her ovaries swelled to the size
of grapefruit.  everyone reacts differently to drugs.
she also had to have blood drawn VERY FREQUENTLY.

the up side was that every month both her ovaries contained multiple eggs.
now 3 yrs later she just had a uterine biopsy.  at day 21 the lining of
her uterus had the consistency of day 13 in her cycle.  what this means
is that she might have been fertilizing eggs but they could not implant
themselves in the uterus because at day 14 for example, the uterus was
at day 4 for hormones, etc.  progesterone treatments are being suggested.

have you had such a test done to see if the uterus is capable of sustaining
a pregnancy? if not i would recommend that before taking the fertility
drug.

reg

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: alice_bertelson@pts.mot.com (ALICE BERTELSON X2572 P7331)
Subject: tape recorderIn article 1dospbINNaib@emory.mathcs.emory.edu, 
Reply-To: alice_bertelson@pts.mot.com
Organization: Paging and Wireless Data Group
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:29:15 GMT

vicki@mathcs.emory.edu (Vicki Powers) writes:
>My daughter loves music and loves pushing buttons on gadgets, so we are
>thinking about getting her one of those tape players/recorders made just
>for kids as a Christmas present.  Sony makes one, so does Fischer Price, and 
>I've also seen brands I've never heard of.  Anyway, I was wondering if anyone 
>has advice on which types are good, etc.  Ann will be 2.5 at Christmas, 
>and all of the ones I've seen say for 3 and older, but I think she can handle 
>it - she already knows how to use the VCR!
>
>This brings up another question - does anybody have good tapes that they
>would especially recommend.  The only restriction is that my husband has
>declared our house a Raffi-free zone!!!
>
>Thanks a bunch!
>
>   Vicki
>
>P.S.  Should I post a summary?
>-- 
>Vicki  Powers       |  When a student reads in a math book that there are no
>Emory University    |  absolutes, suddenly every value he's been taught is
>Dept of Math and CS |  destroyed.  And the next thing you know, the student
>Atlanta, GA 30322   |  turns to crime and drugs. - Mel Gabler

Hi vicki

 - she`s definietely old enough - Matthew was 2.7Yo when we got him the Fisher Price 
one - it goes everywhere with him (he's almost 4YO now) and even Melanie at 16 mths 
adores playing with it and knows which button to push to really irritate Matthew 
(ie turn it off!)  It is really rugged and lasted well....

A great tape to get is a personalized one - if you are interested I can find out 
where my MIL got it from, but Matthew plays it at least once a day and the songs
 are all personalized with his name in it.  He also likes the Wee Sing ones.

Alice, Alleycat or the Brit :-)

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From: johnbr@master.CNA.TEK.COM (John Breeden)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: 20/20 and Spanking
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:30:51 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <1992Nov4.201237.12784@u.washington.edu> gwynne@stein.u.washington.edu (Kristan Geissel) writes:
>What are the ways that single parents out there take the time to come
>back from the brink of hitting their child?  And, I am very sorry and 
>
>Kristan
>gwynne@u.washington.edu

In winter, when my five-year old daughter gives me a hard time (not very often),
I go chop wood for the woodstove. :^)  Great frustration-killer!

John Breeden 
(johnbr@master.cna.tek.com)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: tanner@sundog.nas.nasa.gov (Leigh Ann Tanner)
Subject: Re: Hearing baby's heartbeat at 9 weeks??
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 00:56:46 GMT

In article <19921105102612SASTLS@mvs.sas.com>, Tamara Shaffer <SASTLS@mvs.sas.com> writes:
|> >From: baby@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (maureen.paone)
|> >Message-ID: <1992Nov4.135849.17167@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
|> >
|> >Pardon me if this article has already appeared, I tried to post once
|> >but I didnt think it made it. Anyway, I am now in my 10th week of
|> >pregnancy with my third child. Last week I had my first OB visit, and
|> >along with discussing all the usual stuff (tests, diet etc.) my OB
|> >decided to listen for the babies heartbeat. He said if he didnt
|> >hear it, then I shouldn't be concerned. Well he tried it for a while
|> >to no avail and he then seemed concerned. When I asked him why he
|> >was showing concern he said that someone as thin as me (god, is he
|> >blind!!) we should be able to hear it. He then told me to come back
|> >in one week and if we still didnt hear it then I was to go right in
|> >for a sonogram.
|> >
|> >Ok, now for my questions. Isnt nine weeks a little early to hear the
|> >heartbeat? I thought with my first it was more like 11 - 12 weeks.
|> >Has anyone else been through something similar with their OB? Do you
|> >feel that not hearing the heartbeat at 9 weeks is something to be
|> >concerned about? Any input you can provide will be appreciated.
|> >
|> >Thanks, 
|> >Maureen 
|> >--
|> >*************************************************
|> >Maureen A. Paone                                *
|> >Proud Mama to Bryan Michael and Shawn Elizabeth *
|> >*************** 8-18-88 *********** 4-27-91 *****
|>  
|> Maureen, 
|> I wouldn't be concerned about not hearing the baby's heartbeat
|> at 9 weeks.  (Of course, I'm not a doctor.)  We heard our baby's

Yeah, 9 weeks sounds early.  My doctor said that even 12 weeks might
be difficult.  I was *just* 12 weeks four weeks ago and we couldn't
heart it.  Had my amnio last week (at 16 weeks) and he is definitely
alive and kicking!  So I think that 12 weeks is about the time
they can be heard.

Leigh Ann

(looks like there are several of us around the April/May timeframe)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: kvt@willow.mitre.org
Subject: Re: cute things they say (2 yrs)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:42:15 GMT

In article <4310224@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> poon@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Vivienne Poon)  
writes:
> I couldn't resist to post ours. Kina (almost 6) and Brittany (4) had 
> the following conversation on election day.
> 
> Britt: Today is voting day. We will have a new president. 
>        Everybody has to vote so we can have money to build more
>        roads so we wouldn't have a traffic jam.
> Kina:  No, to build trains. (We have a light-rail measure.)
> Britt: Who do you vote, Kina?
> Kina:  I vote for George Bush because he is the president.
> Britt: I vote for the guy who wanted to go to India but ended up
>        in Bahamas.
> Kina:  Christopher Columbus! But he's DEAD!
> Britt: Ya, I like him and I'm going to vote for him.
> 
> 
> Vivienne Poon

Here's mine:

On our way to vote at the elementary school
that Mandy (26 mo) will be attending we told her 
that we were going voting. (She knows this school
as her school when she gets older).

When we arrived and had to stand in line she
looked alittle confused and kept asking if
we were going voting here at her school. To
which we answered yes, and that we had to 
wait our turn. At this point she looked
very confused but didn't say a word.

She watched the whole process very intently 
and when her dad went into the booth and the
curtain closed she asked where he went and I 
told her that he was voting and we had to wait
our turn.

When it was our turn, Mandy and I went in the
booth and after the curtain closed she looked
around and said in a very loud voice - 
"Where the water?" It was then that I realized
that the only other word that she had heard that
sounded like voting was BOATING!

Kathy T.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer)
Subject: Re: Completely confused about bacteria and sterilization
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.
	<26133@optima.cs.arizona.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:54:14 GMT

The advice about spooning some food out into a separate dish for
feeding to the child, and discarding the remains from this dish, is
probably because many babyfoods are thickened with starch and the
enzymes in the child's saliva (returned to the food by the spoon) will
break the starch down, turning the food into liquid glop.

--
Mary Shafer  DoD #0362 KotFR NASA Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA
shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov                    Of course I don't speak for NASA
 "A MiG at your six is better than no MiG at all."  Unknown US fighter pilot
From: valjorge@leapyear.EBay.Sun.COM (Valerie Jorge)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Birth Announcement
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:10:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: leapyear.ebay.sun.com


I have just started back to work and again have access
to this group (which I really enjoy, by the way).

My son, Kevin Robert Hayes was born
Thursday, May 28, 1992, 7lb., 5oz, 20.5 inches.
He is now a happy and healthy 5 month old,
14lb, 8 1/2oz, 28 1/2 inches.
(75%ile for weight, 90%ile height).
(what is your opinion on %iles, do they seem
accurate in your experiences? does it matter?)

We enjoyed being home together for 5 months,
and being back to work, with Kevin in daycare,
has been a change I am trying to deal with.

Need some helpful hints:  How do all of you
manage working full time, cooking, doing
laundry, picking up, dropping off, ( also
have a 9YO stepdaughter who lives with us)
and still have time for sleep?

Any advice on your "routine" would be greatly
appreciated.

Keep posting!

Valerie
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: reid@metis.tti.com (Reid Kneeland)
Subject: Re: Family dinner (was Re: Eating Healthy (was Re: Halloween Stories
Organization: Transaction Technology Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:21:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov07.034037.2223543@locus.com> judy@locus.com (Judy Leedom Tyrer) writes:

>On the other hand, you have rights to.  In some faiths Friday night dinner
>is sacred.  What about adopting that tradition in your home.  On Friday
>nights the family has a formal dinner at the dining room table with no
>TV.  You could serve wine to the adults.  Use your good china and crystal
>(just you, I wouldn't give crystal tot he baby).  You could even all dress 
>up and use it as one night a week where your children are required to use
>impeccable table manners.

While you're at it, bless the children.  This is part of the Jewish
Shabbat dinner ritual.  (The Hebrew-impaired can use English.)

=====================================================================
Reid Kneeland
reid@tti.com  (that's MISTER reid@tti.com to you!)
Transaction Technology Inc., Santa Monica, CA, USA (310) 450-9111 x2499
The opinions expressed above do not necessarily etc etc...

Never trust a man who can count to 1,023 on his fingers.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: EMN002@email.mot.com (Mary Beth Northrup)
Subject: Re: Infant Rocks to noises
Organization: Motorola, Inc. Plantation, FL
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:50:25 GMT

In article <davej.44.0@gmuvax2.gmu.edu>, davej@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (David F. Juraschek) writes:
> 
> Our 11 month old daughter is very responsive to noises, sounds and 
> especially to music.  (Her mommy is a violist in an orchestra and a music
> teacher, so she's been exposed to music from conception.)
> 
> Whenever we turn on the dishwasher, vacumn, electric shavers or such, she
> will rock back and forth (not transfixed, mind you - she just rocks gently).
> 
> Do other infants do this?  She indicates no discomfort and can even be
> smiling at the time, but does this indicate some sort of irritation to 
> the noise?
> 
> She's very normal, very very smart, and a very healthy and happy little
> girl as far as is discernable.
> 
> Just curious.
> 
> -Dave
> 
> 
If she really was disturbed by the noises - she'd probably let you know! (by
crying, fussing or something) My feeling is that she's just taking it all in!

I've been observing that different babies seem particularly sensitive to
different types of sensory input. For example, I've noticed that my son 
(16 mo) is very tactile - he loves to touch everything and feel its texture.
His "lovey" is a crib blanket with a satin border - he comforts himself by 
sucking his thumb and fingering the border. When I hold him he likes to feel
the sleeve of my blouse (usually silky-feeling) or feel my hair.(He just 
likes to rub it between his fingers). Coincidentally, my husband is also 
very tactile and still likes to tap on objects and feel the texture of things.

I remember when I was little, my "lovey" was a clean cloth diaper. I vividly
remember that I liked it because of the fresh just-laundered smell. I would
carry it around just to have the smell with me (I guess I associated it with
home, mom, and security). Even now, smells can have very strong emotional
and memory association for me.

Maybe your daughter is particularly fascinated by different sounds [a sign
of budding musical genius perhaps?  :-) ] Has anyone else noticed this or
am I nuts?

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| (mommy to Sean, 16 mo.)																	how many, many feet you meet!"   |
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From: yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Halloween Stories
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:36:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <1992Nov05.012814.2220239@locus.com> judy@locus.com (Judy Leedom Tyrer) writes:
>Okay, one more and I promise I'll stop....
>
>One of the boys with us is 3 and quite a pistol.  One house handed out
>crayons (two to a packet).  Stephen put the crayons back and said,
>"No, I want candy."  His mom explained that the man wasn't giving out
>candy and a major Stephen style tantrum erupted.  I bet that man gives
>out candy next year!


	Or maybe  (just one) scoop of mashed potatos.

-- 
	Alan Yasutovich
	"inquiring  (and nosey) minds WANT TO KNOW!!!"
	I can remember when "safe sex" meant having a padded headboard!!
	Tick Tock.....Tick Tock......Tick Tock .....Tick Tock......