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From: t9014155@phillip.edu.au (T-BONE)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Name this song please
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:20:17 GMT
Organization: Phillip Institute of Tech, Melbourne

Can anybody tell me if they know the title and artist of the song that is
played on a snow-ski advertisement for New Zealand.

It include lyrics like:
Im counting the beat
.....
Theres no place Id rather be
...
lah dahdee dee dah 
lah dahdee dee dah
lah dahdee dee dah dah dahdee dah :-)

It has a heavy bass line at the start and most of the way through the song.
The reason I want to know is the bass line sounds very similair to another
song by (I think) ICEHOUSE, and I also want to know what this song is called.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
Please reply by e-mail - I dont think anybody else will be interested in this.

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From: rphjt@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (John Taylor [The Banshee])
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Frente (what CDs?)
Date: 22 Jul 92 10:36:58 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

I've recently bought Frente's CDs "Clunk" and "Whirled".  Have they released
any others?  Also, I've seen black and gold versions of the "Whirled" CD/EP - 
what's the difference (the black version seems to be fairly rare).

Thanks in advance.

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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Re: Frente (what CDs?)
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 09:51:53 GMT


In article <178@hati.mlb.dmt.csiro.au>, ben@mlb.dmt.csiro.au (Ben Simons) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul23.035603.14911@csis.dit.csiro.au>, brian@caroli.csis.dit.csiro.au (Brian May) writes:
|> |> In article <1992Jul22.212813.16474@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au>, rphjt@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (John Taylor [The Banshee]) writes:
|> |> > I've recently bought Frente's CDs "Clunk" and "Whirled". [ ... ]
|> 
|> |> Kollector scum note:  1st pressing was orange.......
|> |> brian
|> 
|> Oh yeah? I thought the FIRST pressing was RED.
|> Reason 1: because i have a red one.
|> Reason 2: because the red one i have is signed by the band members, and i can't imagine
|>           that they'd go and sign *later* pressings. so ner!
|> 
one of us is colourblind...... ;-)             (you say potatoe........)

&

Rob Clarkson signed some of his 2nd pressing!


anyway, for Melburnians Frente are playing August 7th at the Pound, Tok H, Toorak
road with Tlot Tlot in support.

nyer,

brian
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From: jeremy@sw.oz.au (Jeremy Fitzhardinge)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Falling Joys Psychohum
Keywords: Falling Joys
Date: 21 Jul 92 05:56:05 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd

In <thos.711697006@suite.sw.oz.au> thos@suite.sw.oz.au (Thomas Cohen) writes:

>In <1992Jul20.094448.17095@research.canon.oz.au> raphael@research.canon.oz.au (Andrew Raphael) writes:
>>My discerning friend Thos Cohen borrowed my copy after hearing one bar
>>of God In A Dustbin.
>[...]
>(And he doesn't normally call me discerning after I play ELO or
>The Beach Boys at him).

You mean I have allies?  Any moment now, Thos is going to start with
Australian Crawl again and Pod will not only play Cold Chisel with no
hint of embarrasment, but claim its the best music Australia has ever
produced (like Tina Turner, I guess).  Sigh...

	J
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What are you looking at?
I don't know, your label has fallen off.
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: gifford@krang.vis.citri.edu.au (Jonathan Gifford)
Subject: Re: Hunters and Collectors -
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 05:59:36 GMT

rodneycc@brt.deakin.edu.au (Rodney Dorbolo, C&CS, Deakin Uni.,Burwood, AUS) writes:

>>crmilton@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Christopher Robert MILTON) writes:
>> I really enjoyed the Hunters last time I saw them (middle of last year) but
>> then, my favourite album is Ghost Nation... When I saw them, however, they
>> still did a fair bit of old stuff, including The Slab.

>I agree that Ghost Nation was a good album, maybe not as good as Whats a few
>Men or Human Frailty but better than there real early stuff like Firemans
>Curse and Payload which I think were pretty average, and also theres
>their s/titled, jaws of life and world of stone which are o.k.

>There is no doubt Hunnas have changed, gone is the white t-shirt and denim
>jeans and replaced is a poofy red jumpsuit (Mark Seymour) but it is the
>music which is most important and my reserving my judgment until the new
>album is out (its hard to judge on only one song).

At the risk of starting a major flame-war, I'd have to say "Hunna's"
are now a shadow of the band they once were... Completely gone is any
trace of the originality of their s/titled album, to be replaced by
generic ocker-rock (heavy on the bass, light on the brain). Sure Mark
Seymour has a somewhat interesting voice, but in terms of taking
chances with their music they've totally lost the plot.

jon
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From: t9014155@phillip.edu.au (T-BONE)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Name this song (Part 2)
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:24:36 GMT
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

Thank you to everybody who replied to my post the song was:

"Counting the beat" by the Nz band "The Swingers"

Q2.  Does anyone know of an Icehouse song which has a similair bass line?

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|     |  | ___ | |)  /    \   \|  |   (__     |   /::::::::v'   `v::::::::\   |
"     |  |(___)|    <  ()  )   \  |    __)    " ./::::::::::|   |::::::::::\. "
|     |  |     | |)  \    /  |\   |   (____   | |:::/^\:/^\:/\ /\:/^\:/^\:::| |
"     |__|     |______)__/___)(____)_______)  "  V     V      V      V     V  "
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Daryl Braithwaite 'cheats' his managers
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 00:45:01 GMT


News:

Daryl's 2 managers who revived his failing career in 1986/7 are sueing him for
unpaid royalties from his comeback album.  Daryl claims they had no involvement
in the revival of his musical 'career'.

Daryl was a road labourer in Mount Macedon during his 'break' from the biz.

Seems they had a 'gentlemens agreement' rather than a contract - oops!

For more info read today's Age.

brian
(just though I'd throw that in)
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From: tim@mimas.cc.deakin.OZ.AU (Tim Cook)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Frente (what CDs?)
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:58:01 GMT
Organization: C&CS, Deakin University

In article <1992Jul22.212813.16474@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au>,
rphjt@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (John Taylor [The Banshee]) writes:
|> I've recently bought Frente's CDs "Clunk" and "Whirled".  Have they released
|> any others?  Also, I've seen black and gold versions of the "Whirled" CD/EP - 
|> what's the difference (the black version seems to be fairly rare).

Some of the following facts may be wrong.

I first saw Whirled in a red sleeve.  Soon after (and when I had decided to buy
it), it was appearing in a jade sleeve.  I have also seen orange, white and the
black and gold versions you mention.

I understand that with each new pressing (most of which have been relatively
small, due to the finances and market position of Frente when Whirled was first
released), a new color is used.  I think the gold sleeve represents the 11th
pressing (this shows how Frente's popularity has continued to outrun their own
expectations).  You may perceive the black pressing as "rare" because it was the
pressing prior to the gold pressing, and hence would have sold out at many
outlets.
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Re: Frente (what CDs?)
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 03:50:55 GMT


In article <1992Jul23.035603.14911@csis.dit.csiro.au>, brian@caroli.csis.dit.csiro.au (Brian May) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul22.212813.16474@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au>, rphjt@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (John Taylor [The Banshee]) writes:
|> > I've recently bought Frente's CDs "Clunk" and "Whirled".  Have they released
|> > any others?  Also, I've seen black and gold versions of the "Whirled" CD/EP - 
|> > what's the difference (the black version seems to be fairly rare).
|> 
|> Each pressing (500 per pressing) of the Whirled CD has a different colour
|> cover.  That's all I'm afraid!

actually, now they're making them 1000 at a time (black included).....Mushroom
didn't take over the EP as the band can make more money through their MDS deal...
(not that they make that much from MDS)

..latest melb rumour is that they're playing in August next (melb), not October
as previously mentioned.

brian
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: plastic@ecr.mu.oz.au (Jason_Brinsley LEE)
Subject:  RIDE ticket 4 sale.
Keywords: leave them all behind
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: melb
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 23:28:38 GMT


for sale

what:		one ticket to see ride
where:		palace nightclub, St. Kilda.
when:		friday 24th of july
price:	 	$17
contact: 	plastic@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au


peace. plastic. 1992.

Newsgroups: aus.music
From: raphael@research.canon.oz.au (Andrew Raphael)
Subject: Snow Leopards
Keywords: Andrea Croft
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 10:12:21 GMT

In article <19JUL199220085483@robin.rp.csiro.au>
etroup@robin.rp.csiro.au (Euan Troup, AT Parkes.) writes:

>There seems to be a collective floating band out there 'Catherine's
>Falling Cloud Splinter' or something.

Yes, that's about right.  The prize for "most floating" goes to Snow
Leopards, with a choice of four women vocalists & guitarists: Andrea Croft
(ex-Catherine Wheel), Lisa Partington (ex-Rose Mary's), Gina Hearnden
(ex-Hollowmen), and Madelaine (ex-Scholars).  It's all Bruce Begley's
(ex-Honey's) fault, of course.  They've got two more shows in their
Lansdowne residency, and appear with Bagavad Guitars this week.

There's a Snow Leopard's CD out on Waterfront that I recommend highly,
and they've been recording recently.  Bruce allowed me to stand in the
freezing cold in Knox St, Chippendale and listen to a rough cut tape of
their new recording, and it's good.  I'm looking forward to buying it.
-- 
Andrew Raphael <raphael@research.canon.oz.au>
    "Andrea Croft is a goddess
    but it's Lillian Gish on the cover"
	-- men's toilet wall, Lansdowne Hotel
Xref: sparky aus.music:803 rec.music.makers:8661
From: hamster@werple.pub.uu.oz.au (Anthony Horan)
Newsgroups: aus.music,rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: DAT Wanted
Keywords: DAT
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:07:24 GMT
Organization: Werple public-access Unix, Melbourne

dennis@citr.uq.oz.au (Dennis Remmer) writes:

>I'm in the market for a DAT recorder, and would like people in the know to 
>provide an indication of prices of known units (preferably if you're 
>Australian).

I have the Sony DTC-55ES - the first non-pro DAT released in Australia.
It's a superb machine (and was reviewed as such by Australian HiFi
Magazine) with almost all of the subcode features intrinsic to DAT
implemented. It records at 32 Khz (half speed - great for radio),
44.1Khz (direct digital optical or coaxial input only), and 48 Khz (for
those using the analog input). 

The Sony DAT range is now one generation along; I haven't tried the
newer machine but its features look identical to mine, with minor
cosmetic changes to the player itself. My unit cost $1599 at Lock's
House Of Sony, in Melbourne. 

Interestingly, Sony recently advertised that their home DAT unit cost
"the same as a good quality cassette deck"!!! Hey, if I bought a
cassette deck for $1600 it'd HAVE to be good!

>Better still, if you can suggest whether buying one second-hand is reliable,
>and can indicate the going rates for various units.

Like VCR's, DAT units - as you no doubt know - use a rotary head system
and mechanical tape threading, and both are sensitive items easily
abused and damaged by the uncaring. The heads on a DAT would be
expensive to replace I'd imagine (HiFi VCR heads cost $400+) and anyway,
Sony offer you a 3 year warranty on new units - a must for new
technology. 

I wouldn't buy a second hand VCR, that's for sure!

BTW, for those that are interested, DAT tape (the Japanese "That's"
brand) sells at JB HiFi in Melbourne now for as little as $5-99! (That
price is for the 46 minute variety; 2 hour ones are $12-99). The tape,
from my experience, is just fine.



Anthony
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brian@caroli.csis.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Re: Frente (what CDs?)
Reply-To: brian.may@csis.dit.csiro.au
Organization: CSIRO Division of Information Technology
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:56:03 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.212813.16474@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au>, rphjt@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (John Taylor [The Banshee]) writes:
> I've recently bought Frente's CDs "Clunk" and "Whirled".  Have they released
> any others?  Also, I've seen black and gold versions of the "Whirled" CD/EP - 
> what's the difference (the black version seems to be fairly rare).

Each pressing (500 per pressing) of the Whirled CD has a different colour
cover.  That's all I'm afraid!

Kollector scum note:  1st pressing was orange.......

brian
(oh, no other recordings yet but they've just demo-ed an album, so maybe
3-4 months before that's out.....well, maybe 6!)
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: boyd@prl.dec.com (Boyd Roberts)
Subject: Re: Name this song please
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Paris Research Laboratory
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 10:12:50 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.122017.12478@phillip.edu.au>, t9014155@phillip.edu.au (T-BONE) writes:
> 
> It include lyrics like:
> Im counting the beat
> .....

_Counting the Beat_ -- The Swingers.


Boyd Roberts			boyd@prl.dec.com

``When the going gets wierd, the weird turn pro...''
From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Hunters and Collectors -
Date: 20 Jul 92 09:35:07 GMT
Reply-To: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Distribution: aus
Organization: Victoria University of Technology, Melb, Australia

In article <9220215.17966@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> gifford@krang.vis.citri.edu.au (Jonathan Gifford) writes:
>At the risk of starting a major flame-war, I'd have to say "Hunna's"
>are now a shadow of the band they once were... Completely gone is any
>trace of the originality of their s/titled album, to be replaced by
>generic ocker-rock (heavy on the bass, light on the brain). Sure Mark
>Seymour has a somewhat interesting voice, but in terms of taking
>chances with their music they've totally lost the plot.

I'd have to agree with that. Human Frailty was an awesome album but
Ghost Nation was pretty crappy except for a few songs.

Jed
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: mvc@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Min Vui Chan)
Subject: Phantom Of The Opera Tickets
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:09:25 GMT


Wanted:

Three (3) tickets to the Melbourne production of "Phantom of the Opera"
for either Friday, 7th August 1992, or Saturday 8th August 1992.

I will consider all offers. Please e-mail to mvc@tartarus.uwa.edu.au
by 5th August 1992.

M.V.Chan

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From: mmcleod@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Name this song please
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:11:10 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Jul23.122017.12478@phillip.edu.au>, t9014155@phillip.edu.au (T-BONE) writes:
> Can anybody tell me if they know the title and artist of the song that is
> played on a snow-ski advertisement for New Zealand.
> 
> It include lyrics like:
> Im counting the beat
> .....
> Theres no place Id rather be
> ...
> lah dahdee dee dah 
> lah dahdee dee dah
> lah dahdee dee dah dah dahdee dah :-)

That would be "Counting the Beat" by the Swingers

It was released in the early 80's ('81?)

BTW the lead singer of the Swingers (whose name escapes me - Phil somebody?)
was originally with Split Enz, and more recently was with Schnell Fenster(sp?)

=======================================================
Malcolm McLeod
University of Waikato
Hamilton
New Zealand
Newsgroups: aus.politics
From: c.oneill@trl.oz.au (Chris O'Neill)
Subject: Re: Democrats' Economic recovery Plan
Organization: Telecom Australia Research Laboratories, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:28:34 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.043757.9283@cs.su.oz.au> yar@cs.su.oz.au (Ray Loyzaga)
writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.004402.8458@trl.oz.au> c.oneill@trl.oz.au (Chris
O'Neill) writes:
>>In article <5429@cluster.cs.su.oz.au> yar@cs.su.oz.au (Ray Loyzaga) writes:
>>>In article <996200239@peg> ksowada@peg.pegasus.oz.au writes:
>>>>z    Establish a national car registration scheme, under which
>>>>fixed registration and compulsory third party insurance fees
>>>>would be abolished and replaced with a revenue-neutral
>>>>increase in petrol excise of 16.5 cents per litre.  Uniform
>>>>road laws would also be introduced.
>>>
>>>Appart from the inflationary affect of this excise (in addition
>>>to your previous levy I assume), this "revenue neutral" increase
>>
>>Revenue neutral means it causes no inflation.
>
>No it doesn't, it means that they will spend all that they receive,

It means that they will spend all they receive on abolishing two costs,
registration and compulsory third party insurance.  The inflation caused by the
increase in petrol excise will be neutralized by the deflation caused by the
removal of registration and insurance fees.  Any common sense definition of
inflation would have to show revenue neutral measures as not directly causing
any inflation, i.e. inflation definitions have to be weighted according to
revenue.  What other weightings would not be open to abuse by Governments?
From: hoconnel@physics.adelaide.edu.au (Heath O'Connell)
Newsgroups: aus.politics
Subject: Re: Compulsory Voting.
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:25:05 GMT

Comrade Hartin writes:


>       Capitalism is based fundamentally on profit, not on people. For the vast
>majority of the world's population capitalism does not "work".
	Could you think of a system that would? Can you give examples of the
people for whom capitalism does not work?

> Capitalism is a
>world system and part of its nature is to penetrate everywhere. It has, and the
>result has been war through the drive to open up and compete for new markets, 
>exploitation of the third world, recessions, unemployment, fascism, etc.
>Capitalism will not survive. It will either end up in barbarism or socialism.
	Well, it's been around in the Anglo-Saxon world for quite a while and
doesn't seem to be quite coming apart yet, to contrst it with the seventy-year
duration of the system in the Soviet union (oh, sorry; that wasn't socialism).


>            You seem to have some sort of blind spot regarding Stalinism.
	So does any government that sets about trying to create a socialist
state.

>Stalinism is the mirror image of nazism. It is extreme right-wing politics and
>is diametrically oppossed to socialism. I don't know how many times I have to
>say it: USSR, China, Cuba, the Eastern Bloc, North Korea, Vietnam. None of
>these countries are or ever have been socialist.
	Nor will any ever be, although the Smurfs seem to have come close.

	
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		hoconnel@adlephi.physics.adelaide.edu.au
From: hoconnel@physics.adelaide.edu.au (Heath O'Connell)
Newsgroups: aus.politics
Subject: Re: Compulsory Voting.
Date: 28 Jul 92 02:48:04 GMT

a cwarren tells me:




>Ye Gods, What Blindness

>In a previous response a "hoconnel" in all innocence asked
>for examples where capitalism does not work.
>All he or she has to do,
	Pardon my androgyny.

>is walk past the local dole office
>and you'll see the faces of thousands for whom capitalism
>does not work.
>Talk to trade unions and worker's struggling on $8 hour for life.
>Maybe then the penny will drop.
	That would be an upgrade.

>Check out the record of our failed and gaoled entrepreneurs,
>judges, and politicians.  What does this tell you?
	Labor governments can't be trusted?

>Now look at the riots, arson, homicides and drug addiction in
>USA and UK.  Is this capitalism - working?
	UK riots? Well maybe if individualism was finally smothered these
problems would be no longer with us.


>Check out other postings on other networks  and try to come 
>to a more mature view.  If you read other postings here you'll
>see evidence that Australian profits have declined. 
	Isn't that good? I thought profit was the measure of exploitation.

>But firstly have a good look at yourself.  Your academic ivory
>tower has insulated you from real humanity and, its OUR taxes
>you are using.
	Fine, if you don't want physics, just say so. May I ask what you do?
Is that 'OUR' including me? Or don't non-real hermaphrodites in ivory towers
qualify for inclusion?

>Anyway all this is old news, the question now is what is to
>be done about it all.
	Take a trip around most of Australia, go visiting. If the people can be
bothered getting away from their TV's to talk to you they might just say
things aren't all that bad.
	Ever been to Moscow?

	When you decide what to do, let me know. The first thing to do will be
shoot all those capitalists, we don't want to spoil the Workers' Paradise.



 
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Newsgroups: aus.politics,soc.culture.australian