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From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Op-ed piece on telephone Caller ID
Organization: Cuddlehogs Anonymous
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:37:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.034800.2382@athena.mit.edu> sybok@athena.mit.edu (The Rifleman) writes:
>I consider myself PRO-PRIVACY and a libertarian.  I oppose caller
>ID because the GOVERNMENT can abuse it to compile lists of 
>undesirables---political dissidents, "perpetrators" of victimless crimes,
>people with unpopular attititudes, etc.

In Britain at least, all digital exchanges log all calls with from&to
numbers and deliver them to a central database where the police/SIS can
study them at leisure.  *every single call* in the country. I'd imagine
the situation in the US is similar, except they're probably supposed to
get a warrant first.  (The police are here, though since the phone system
is covered by the Official Secrets Act, we've no way of knowing whether
they bother; the SIS don't need a warrant since they're beyond the law)

G
Newsgroups: comp.privacy,alt.privacy
From: Terry.Parks@launchpad.unc.edu (Terry Parks)
Subject: Re: Op-ed piece on telephone Caller ID
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:03:36 GMT

>I consider myself PRO-PRIVACY 

Then you won't be calling me and my having Caller ID has NO IMPACT on you.

>and a libertarian.  I oppose caller
>ID because the GOVERNMENT can abuse it to compile lists of 
>undesirables---political dissidents, "perpetrators" of victimless crimes,
>people with unpopular attititudes, etc.

The government has this ability regardless of Caller ID.

>You have no right to force me to identify myself

Exactly, don't call me!

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From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Subject: Re: Op-ed piece on telephone Caller ID
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 06:02:50 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.
Distribution: usa

sybok@athena.mit.edu (The Rifleman) writes:

>>If you don't want Caller ID, don't purchase it. If you want to be private,
>>don't call me. If you're worried about not being able to make obscene
>>phone calls, seek professional help.

>I consider myself PRO-PRIVACY and a libertarian.  I oppose caller
>ID because the GOVERNMENT can abuse it to compile lists of 
>undesirables---political dissidents, "perpetrators" of victimless crimes,
>people with unpopular attititudes, etc.

>You have no right to force me to identify myself whenever I want
>to use the telephone to communicate with the government.  


TERMIE's BACK!!

Hey Termie, hate to break up your rant but the government (and anyone else
willing to pay for it) has had "super Caller ID" almost from the moment
of divestiture.  This is known as ANI (automatic number identification)
and is provided as part of a service called (was? still is?) Feature
Group D service.  This is normally provided on "4 wire E&M" or T-1 
trunk service.  No pussy local-area-only restrictions either.  
ANI comes in from any call from almost any part of the world.  How do you
think all these little two bit long distance companies and the 900 
chat line providers get their billing information?  *BINGO*

Caller*ID has simply brought us ordinary civilians up to what the big
businesses and government has had for years.

John
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Newsgroups: comp.privacy,alt.privacy
From: Terry.Parks@launchpad.unc.edu (Terry Parks)
Subject: Re: Op-ed piece on telephone Caller ID
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 03:32:58 GMT

>> we are already on. We also, of course, in the absence of Caller ID never
>> give out information to businesses on the phone:
>> 
>> 	"Hello, Pete's Pest Control"
>> 	"I'm overrun with ants, please come soon."
>> 	"Well, what's your name and address."
>> 	"I'm not going to tell you, it's my privacy."
>> 	"Click...."

>Bad example. Ordered a pizza by phone lately?

	"Hello, Pete's Pizza and Pasta, Pete speaking."
	"I'd like a pizza Pete please."
	"Okay, what's your name and phone number?"
	"I'm not going to tell you, it's my privacy."
        "Click..."

>I pay to keep my number unlisted, thankyouverymuch. 

Does this mean you have never gotten an unwanted phone call?

>I'd rather choose who has access to that information.

You do, in fact you have TOTAL CONTROL over who can get your number with
Caller ID. Unlike the many other ways over which you have no control
and have nothing to do with Caller ID. If you don't want me to have
your phone number, then don't call me.

	"I'm not going to tell you, it's my privacy and I'm not going
	to tell you my address for your delivery and I insist that you
	close your eyes when I pick it up."
	"Hey Paula, come listen to this nutcake."

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Xref: sparky comp.privacy:18 alt.privacy:3016
From: rjwade@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J. Wade)
Newsgroups: comp.privacy,alt.privacy
Subject: Re: Op-ed piece on telephone Caller ID
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:18:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1993Jan20.034800.2382@athena.mit.edu> sybok@athena.mit.edu (The Rifleman) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.010456.20340@samba.oit.unc.edu> 
>Terry.Parks@launchpad.unc.edu (Terry Parks) writes:
>>
>>Anti-privacy folks, those who think they have a right or a need to enter
>>my home anonymously, are always trying to get people to buy into four
>>beliefs:
>>
>>If you don't want Caller ID, don't purchase it. If you want to be private,
>>don't call me. If you're worried about not being able to make obscene
>>phone calls, seek professional help.
>
>I consider myself PRO-PRIVACY and a libertarian.  I oppose caller
>ID because the GOVERNMENT can abuse it to compile lists of 
>undesirables---political dissidents, "perpetrators" of victimless crimes,
>people with unpopular attititudes, etc.
>
>You have no right to force me to identify myself whenever I want
>to use the telephone to communicate with the government.  And don't
>say, "mail a letter"; local networks still have monopolies over 
>telephone service and the telephone is still an important means of
>communication that should be at my disposal without giving
>up my rights.
>
>Going out to use a pay-phone is a hassle too.
>
>I *might* re-consider if free blocking were offered whenever caller-ID
>was in a given region.  Then, if you don't like me not identifying myself,
>DON'T ANSWER IT WHEN YOU SEE THAT IT'S BLOCKED.


problem is...the equipment is being put in place that has these capabilities..
whether they offer to sell caller id or not...the equipment is there and 
people with access to it can abuse it...employees of the phone company...
the government etc.  here at pu i know people in the data processing dept that
look up ballplayer grads to see who will be ineligible to play next semester.
they do this because they can.  and sometimes the local papers magically 
have the 'scoop' on players before the grads officially come out and are
printed and sent.  telephones are no longer secure without scramblers.
Newsgroups: comp.privacy,alt.privacy
From: niebuhr@bnlux1.bnl.gov (david niebuhr)
Subject: Re: Op-ed piece on telephone Caller ID
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:46:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.161638.581@netcom.com> bml@netcom.com (Brian Leibowitz) writes:
>>Well I hope you know that whenever you call a 1-800 number they have your
>>phone number.  It is automatically given to them whenever somebody calls
>>their 800 number.  The only thing that blocking Caller ID does is lock out
>>the small guy.  The big boys are going to still get the info.
>
>Here in California, Caller ID is not implemented (the phone company has
>currently given up on it due to the privacy restrictions).  However, when
>you call an 800 number and I think any state with caller ID, you are
>identified.  I talked with a fairly high up (I forget his title) phone company
>employee who said that once the number is transfered to the long distance
>company and crosses the state line, only a federal law can restrict what is
>done with the number-your local state laws do not apply.
>
>NOTE: the customer service people I first contacted assured me that my number

You're confusing Caller ID with ANI which is where the 800 numbers fit.
Anytime anyone calls an 800 number the phone number of the instrument that
you are using at that moment is delivered in real time.

The reasoning is that the holder of the 800 number is paying the bill, therefore
is entitled to know where the call came from.  The same is true if you accept
a collect call.  That number shows up on your monthly bill.

Crossing state lines when delivering ANI (Automatic Number Identification) is
immaterial; the number is displayed no matter what.

Dave

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Newsgroups: comp.privacy,alt.privacy
From: Terry.Parks@launchpad.unc.edu (Terry Parks)
Subject: Re: Anti-privacy is Anti-Caller ID)
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:47:54 GMT

>I think we need to clarify some terminology here.  Terry seems to be
>using "privacy" to refer to his right not to be interrupted in his
>home.

Caller ID doesn't provide this. What it does uniquely is to at long last give 
people the ability to control who has and doesn't have access to their homes.
Just like the peephole in my front door provides.

>Most of the other people who read this group are using "privacy" to
>refer to their right to keep to themselves any and all information
>which they consider to be nobody else's business.

You have this right regardless of Caller ID. If you wish to remain private,
simply choose not to call me, period!

>Terry, attempting to label the latter people "anti-privacy" is not
>only inaccurate, but a sure way to earn enemies while ensuring that
>your arguments are ignored.

Contacting other people, especially strangers as in the scenarios presented
by you anti-privacy types is not a way to remain private. If you wish to
remain private, don't contact me!

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Newsgroups: comp.privacy,alt.privacy
From: Terry.Parks@launchpad.unc.edu (Terry Parks)
Subject: Re: Anti-privacy is Anti-Caller ID)
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:09:54 GMT

>do you let your daughter peep through the hole first?

Hard to do if the anti-privacy types keep painting it over.

>maybe its a flasher.

Then all the more reason for their identity to be exposed before they
can get into my home.

>the peephole is more like picking up the receiver and listening for heavy
>breathing.

No, this is like openning the door--something required due to you peep hole
painters.

>the knock on the door is like the ring on the phone

And Caller ID is like looking through the peep hole before opening the door.


>>You have this right regardless of Caller ID. If you wish to remain private,
>>simply choose not to call me, period!

>Who cares about calling YOU??

Thank you for admitting that Caller ID has nothing to do with the privacy
of the caller. Be private, don't call me or anyone else.

>its the influx of new businesses that then
>can tap into our personal information 

Hey Rip, wake up! This is done regardless of Caller ID. Except that with
Caller ID, one can render such information useless. If you want to be
private, don't call me!

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From: Terry.Parks@launchpad.unc.edu (Terry Parks)
Subject: Re: Op-ed piece on telephone Caller ID
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:07:48 GMT

>The reasoning is that the holder of the 800 number is paying the bill, therefore
>is entitled to know where the call came from.  The same is true if you accept
>a collect call.  That number shows up on your monthly bill.

Since I, not the anti-privacy folks, pay for my telephone, can I have my
Caller ID now.

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Newsgroups: comp.cog-eng
From: zakon@hicup.mitre.org (Robert H Zakon)
Subject: Looking for CogSci and HCI Organization information
Reply-To: rzakon@mitre.org
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:58:53 GMT

I am looking for information on CogSci and HCI related societies.
Specifically, I would like to get their names, e-mail address,
membership contact, and address.  If you can help, please e-mail to
the address below.

Thank you,
  Robert H Zakon, rzakon@mitre.org
From: rick@cs.arizona.edu (Rick Schlichting)
Newsgroups: comp.research.japan
Subject: Japan Information Access Project Workshop
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:54:40 GMT


[The workshop date is Feb 26, 1993.  Contact the JIAP for more 
 information. -- Rick]

Workshop on Finding and Using Japanese Information on Computers, Electronics, 
and Semiconductors.

Second meeting of the Japan Information Access Project's study group on 
computers, electronics, and semiconductors.  In-depth discussions on analyzing 
and using Japanese patents, databases, statistics, information networks, and 
high-technology sources.

Presentations will include:

-Understanding Japanese Patent Strategy
-Effectively Using Japanese Databases
-Analyzing the Competition between U.S. and Japanese Electronic Industries
-Japan's Industrial Policy for the Information Industries
-Developing a Program to Monitor Japanese Technology
-The Culture Clues for Collecting Japanese Information
-Tracking Japanese Technology in Austin--Research Consortia and the Air 
Force's Japan Industry and Management of Technology Program

Speakers will include:

Machiko Moser
Technical Strategy Staff
IBM

Howard Curtis
International Liaison Office
MCC

Madeline Dovale
Japanese Information Analyst
Sematech

Sten Thore
Fellow
IC2

Piyu Yue
Research Associate
IC2

Jan Vardaman
President
TechSearch International

Fred Phillips 
University of Texas
Japan Industry and Technology Management Program

Dierdre Mendez
President
Foreign Business Consultants

Please call for an updated workshop agenda

Sponsored by the Japan Information Access Project, 1706 R Street,NW, 
Washington, DC  20009.  Tel: (202) 332-5224, Fax: (202) 332-6841.
From: japancs@cs.arizona.edu (Japan CS Project)
Newsgroups: comp.research.japan
Subject: Journal of Information Processing and Management, Vol. 35, No. 7 (1992)
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:30:56 GMT


---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     JOURNAL OF INFORMATION PROCESSING AND MANAGEMENT (JOHO KANRI)
          VOL. 35, NO. 7, (OCTOBER 1992)

          published by

     THE JAPAN INFORMATION CENTER OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY
          (in Japanese)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Collection and dissemination of this information supported in part by
 ONR Grant N0001492J1737.]


555	RANDOM TALK:  Researchers of advanced science and technology
		      talking about their roman [1]
	 by KIMURA Elichi / HIROSE Masataka / KIMURA Hajime / YAZAKI Akira

573	Chemical information science for structure elucidation and molecular
	design
	 by SASAKI Shin-ichi
	  Toyohashi University of Technology, 1, Hibariqaoka 1-chome,
	  Tempaku-cho, Toyohashi-shi, 441

583	The outline of patent database in STN [2]
	 - PATOSDE, PATOSEP AND PATOSWO
	 by YOSHIKAWA Ichiro
	  JICST, Service Department, 5-2, Nagata-cho 2-chome, Chiyoda-ku, 100

601	SERIES:  Information management [7]  Use 3
		 Utilizing personal computer telecommunication
	 by MASUDA Hajime(1) / ISHII Hirotoyo(2)
	  (1)  Agricultural Library, University of Tokyo, 1-1, Yayoi 1-chome,
	       Bunkyo-ku, 113
	  (2)  University of Library and Information Science, 1-2, Kasuga,
	       Tsukuba-shi, Ibaraki-ken, 305

615	PROMENADE:  Miscellaneous views on a history of a company 4
	  	    A catalog of company histories
	 by MURAHASHI Katsuko

632	Local information activities in Japan:  From Hokkaido
	 by KANEDA Tadao
From: japancs@cs.arizona.edu (Japan CS Project)
Newsgroups: comp.research.japan
Subject: Journal of Information Processing and Management, Vol. 35, No. 8 (1992)
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:31:13 GMT


---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     JOURNAL OF INFORMATION PROCESSING AND MANAGEMENT (JOHO KANRI)
          VOL. 35, NO. 8, (NOVEMBER 1992)

          published by

     THE JAPAN INFORMATION CENTER OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY
          (in Japanese)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Collection and dissemination of this information supported in part by
 ONR Grant N0001492J1737.]


649	RANDOM TALK:  Researchers of advanced science and technology talking
		      about their roman  [2]
	 by KIMURA Elichi / HIROSE Masataka / KIMURA Hajime / YAZAKI Akira

665	The present situation and outlook of the Minpaku Costume Databases [MCD]
	 by TAKAHASI Haruko
	  Osaka-Shoin-Women's College, clothing information service section,
	  2-26, 4-chome, Hishiya-nishi, Higashiosaka-shi, 577

675	Nikkei Sangyo Shimbun File:  Its characteristics and how to use it
	 by HABARA Takashi
	  Nihon Keizai Shimbun, Inc., Databank bureau, 9-5, 1-chome, Otemachi,
	  Chiyoda-ku, 100-66

689	Research support system in Shikoku Research Institute Incorporated
	 by SAKAMOTO Tadashi
	  Shikoku Research Insitute Incorporated planning advinistration 
	  section, 2109, Yashiki nishi-machi, Takamatsu-shi, 761-01

701	A copyright perspective on secondary information services
	 written by UNRUH Betty(1), translated by ONODERA Natsuo(2)
	  (1)  National Federation of Abstracting and Indexing Services,
	       ex-Executive Director, 3401 Market St., Philadelphia, PA  19104
	  (2)  JICST General dept., 5-2, Nagata-cho 2-chome, Chiyoda-ku, 100

707	SERIES:  Information management [8]  Use 4
		 Use of information and copyright problems
	 by KAMIO Tatsuo
	  Nihon Keizai Shimbun, Inc., Deputy general manager, Databank bureau,
	  9-5, 1-chome, Otemachi Chiyoda-ku, 100-66
From: herbt@naaman.sarnoff.com (Herbert H Taylor III)
Newsgroups: comp.research.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese Research Labs in U.S.?
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:58:14 GMT
Organization: dsrc


In article <30217@optima.cs.arizona.edu> krumm+@CS.CMU.EDU (John Krumm) writes:
>This is the summary of responses to my question about Japanese
>research labs in the U.S.  Thanks to everyone who responded.
>
  
 There are a few more Japanese resesarch labs in the Princeton, New
Jersey area (a.k.a "Video Valley" ), namely:

    Hitachi
    Toshiba

 Both of these labs have hired away a bunch of people from Sarnoff
labs and elsewhere. These two and Matsushita (also in Burlington, New
Jersey), as well as the Korean company Samsung are focusing on
comsumer video development, particularly HDTV standards. Of my
original RCA group of about 20 in 1981 more then half now work for one
of these companies! Its the research engineering equivalent of
Baseball Free Agency. I'm just waiting for my agent to find the right
insentive clause for me...

 Herb Taylor

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From: trent@cs.utexas.edu (Scott Trent)
Newsgroups: comp.research.japan,sci.lang.japan
Subject: Japanese OCR software (question)
Summary: request for info
Keywords: Japanese, OCR, FAX
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:15:06 GMT
Followup-To: comp.research.japan
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX

[Pls respond by email. -- Rick]

I am wondering if anyone can me what the status of Japanese OCR is.

I understand that there are palmtops that are supposed to read handwritten
Japanese characters.  Are these accurate?

Does this mean that there is a substantial amount of accurate OCR software 
available that could be used to convert fax files, gif files, etc into
Japanese text?

It is not uncommon for fax cards sold in the U.S. to include some sort
of OCR software that recognizes English.  Do fax cards sold in Japan come
bundled with Japanese OCR software, or will they be in the future?

Thanks much for any pointers or info.

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From: rms@well.sf.ca.us (richard marlon stein)
Newsgroups: comp.research.japan
Subject: Tessellated display manufacturers
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:14:07 GMT
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link


I'm trying locate any U.S. contacts (Silicon Valley preferred) of japanese
manufacturing firms for tessellated display systems, like the kind used
to create video walls.  Though I'm more interested in LCD or flat-panel
technology.  Any information or contacts are appreciated.
--rick
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