From: joseph.daniels%hombas@homebase.com (Joseph Daniels) 
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Rod: Wouldn't Eng 2/4
Date: 8 Nov 92 00:56:00 GMT
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Organization: Home Base BBS - St. Thomas, ON - 519-633-7253
Reply-To: joseph.daniels%hombas@homebase.com (Joseph Daniels) 

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A Highly complicated Piece of Equipment Had to be constructed  in
order to Unfreeze those who became "True Froze" or "Deep  Freeze"
subjects.  USUALLY  A "DEEP FEEZE" MAN GOES  MAD,  STARK  RAVING,
GIBBERING, RUNNING MAD, if His "freeze" is far More than a Day in
our time.

"I  speak of TIME for DEEP "Frozen Men" are Not aware of Time  as
We know it. They are Like Semi-comatose person, who Live breathe,
Look & feel but still are unaware of So Utterly Many things as to
constitute a "Nether World" to them. A Man in an ordinatry common
Freeze is aware of Time, Sometimes ACUTELY so. Yet They are NEVER
aware  of Time precisely are you or I are aware of it. The  First
"Deep  Freeze" As I said took 6 months to Rectify. It  also  took
over 5 Million Dollars worth of Electronic equipment & a  Special
Ship Berth.
.pa
If  around or Near the Phiadelphia Navy Yard you see a  group  of
Sailors  in the act of Putting their Hands UPON a fellor OR  upon
"thin air", observe the Digits & appendages of the Stricken  Man.
If they seem to Waver, as tho within a Heat-Mirage, GO QUICKLY  &
Put YOUR Hands upon Him, FOR THAT MAN IS THE VERY MOST  DESPERATE
OF MEN IN THE WORLD. NOT ONE OF THOSE MEN EVER WANT ALL TO BECOME
AGAIN  INVISIBLE. I do Not think that Much More Need be  said  as
Why Man is Not Ready for Force-Field Work. Eh?

You Will Hear phrases from these Men such as "Caught in the  Flow
(or the Push)" or "Stuck in the Green" or "Stuck in Molasses"  or
"I was going FAST", These Refer to Some of the Decade-later after
effects  of  Force-Field  Work. "Caught in  the  Flow"  Describes
exactly  the "Stuck in Molasses" sensation of a Man going into  a
"Deep Freeze" either of the two. "Caught in the Push" can  either
refer  to That Which a Man feels Breifly WHEN he is either  about
to inadvertantly "Go-Blank" IE Become Invisible" or about to "Get
Stuck" in a "Deep Freeze" or "Plain Freeze."

There are only very few of the original Expierimental D-E's  Crew
Left  by Now, Sir. Most went insane, one just walked "throo"  His
quarters Wall in sight of His Wife & Child & 2 other crew Members
(WAS  NEVER  SEEN  AGAIN), two "Went into The  Flame"  I.E.  They
"Froze"   &  caught  fire,  while  carrying   common   Small-Boat
Compasses,  one Man carried the compass & Caught fire, the  other
came  for the "Laying on of Hands" as he was nearest but he  too,
took  fire. THEY BURNED FOR 18 DAYS. The faith in  "Hand  Laying"
Died  When  this Happened & Mens Minds Went by  the  scores.  The
expieriment  Was  a  Complete  Success.  The  Men  were  Complete
Failures.

Check Philadelphia Papers for a tiny one Paragraph (upper Half of
sheet,  inside the paper Near the rear 3rd of Paper,  1944-46  in
Spring or Fall or Winter, NOT Summer.) of an Item describing  the
Sailors  Actions after their initial Voyage. They Raided a  Local
to the Navy Yard "Gin Mill" or "Beer Joint" & caused such a Shock
&  Paralysis of the Waitresses that Little comprehenssible  could
be gotten from them, save that Paragraph & the Writer of it, Does
Not Believe it, & Says "I only wrote what I heard & them Dames is
Daffy. So, all I get is a "Hide-it" Bedtime Story."
.pa
Check  obsever  ship  crew,  Matson Lines  Liberty  ship  out  of
Norfolk,  (Company  MAY Have Ships Log for that Voyage  or  Coast
Guard  have  it) The S.S. Andrew Furuseth,  Cheif  Mate  Mowsely,
(Will secure Captains Name Later)(Ships Log Has Crew List on it.)
one  crew  member Richard Price or "Splicey" Price  May  Remember
other Names of Deck Crew Men, (Coast Guard has record of  Sailors
issued "Papers") Mr. Price Was 18 or 19 then, Oct. 1943 and Lives
or  Lived at that time in His old Family Home in Roanoke, V.A.  a
small  town with Small phone book. These Men Were Witnesses,  The
Men  of this crew, "Conally of New England, (Boston?),  May  have
Witnessed but I doubt it. (Spelling May be incorrect) DID Witness
this.  i ask you to Do this bit of Research simply that  you  May
Choke  on  your  own  Tongue when  you  Remember  what  you  have
"appealed be Made Law"

                                     Very Disrespectfully Yours,

                                               Carl M. Allen

P.S. Will Help More if you see Where I can.

Z416175
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Notes  in  addition to and pertaining to Missive.  (Contact  Rear
Admiral  Rawson  Bennett for verification of  into  Herein.  Navy
Chief of Research. He may offer you a job, ultimately.)

Coldly and analytically speaking, without the Howling that is  in
the Letter to you accompanying this, I will say the following  in
all Fairness to you & to Science.

(1)  The  Navy did Not know that the men could  become  invisible
     WHILE NOT UPON THE SHIP & UNDER THE FIELDS INFLUENCE.

(2)  The  Navy Did Not know that THERE WOULD BE Men Die from  odd
     effects of HYPER "Field" within or upon "Field".

(3)  Further,  They even yet do Not know Why this happened &  are
not even sure the the "F" within the "F" is the reason, for  sure
at  all. IN SHORT The Atomic bomb didn't kill the  expierimentors
thus  the expieriments went on - but eventually one or  two  were
accidentally killed But THE CAUSE was known as to Why they  died.
Myself,  I  "feel" that something pertaining to  that  Small-boat
compass  "triggered"  off  "The Flames." I  have  no  proof,  but
Neither Does the Navy.

(4)  WORSE & Not Mentioned When one or two of their Men, Visible-
     within-the-field-to-all-the-others,    JUST   WALKED    INTO
     NOTHINGNESS, and Nothing Could be felt, of them, either when
     the "field" Was turned on OR off, THEY WERE JUST GONE! Then,
     More Fears Were Amassed.

(5)  Worse, Yet, When an apparently Visible & New-Man Just  walks
     seemingly  "throo" the Walls of his House,  the  surrounding
     area Searched by all Men & thoroughly scrutinized by &  with
     &  under an Installed Protable Field developer  AND  NOTHING
     EVER found of him. SO MANY MANY FEARS WERE BY THEN IN EFFECT
     THAT THE SUM TOTAL OF THEM ALL COULD NOT EVER AGAIN BE FACED
     BY  ANY  OF THOSE MEN OR BY THE MEN WORKING AT  &  UPON  THE
     EXPERIMENTS.

I  wish  to  Mention that Somehow, also,  The  Experimental  Ship
Disappeared from its Philadelphia Dock and only a Very few Minutes
Later  appeared at its other Dock in the Norfolk,  Newport  News,
Portsmouth  area. This was distinctly AND clearly  Identified  as
being  that place BUT the ship then, AGAIN, Disappeared And  Went
BACK to its Philadelphia Dock in only a Very few Minutes or Less.
This  was also noted in the newspapers But I forget what paper  I
read it in or When It happened. Probably Late in the experiments,
May have been in 1946 AFTER Experiments. were discontinued, I can
Not Say for Sure.
.pa
To the Navy this Whole thing was So Impractical due to its Morale
Blasting  effects Which were so much so that efficient  operation
of  the  Ship  was  Drastically  hindered  and  than  after  this
occurrence  It was shown that even the Mere operation of  a  ship
could  Not  be counted upon at all. In short, Ignorance  of  this
thing  bred  such Terrors of it that, on the Level  of  attempted
operations, with what knowledge was then available  It was deemed
as impossible, Impracticable and Too Horrible.

I  BELIEVE  that Had YOU THEN been Working upon & With  the  team
that was Working upon this project With yourself knowing what you
NOW know, THAT "The Flames" Would Not have been SO UNEXPECTED, or
Such a Terrifying Mystery. Also, More than Likely, I must say  in
All fairness, None of these other occurrences could have happened
without some knowledge of their possibility of occuring. In fact,
They  May have been prevented by a far More Cautious Program  AND
by  a  Much more Cautiously careful Selection of  Personnell  for
Ships  officers  &  Crew. Such was not the case.  The  Navy  used
whatever  HUMAN  MATERIAL  was at hand,  Without  Much,  IF  ANY,
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