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From: rost@tecrus.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Aphex "Big Bottom"
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:35:53 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


I've seen ads for a new Aphex unit, I think it's called type C2, and it adds a
"big bottom" bass enhancement circuit with "overhang" and "girth" controls.
Anyone know how it works, *does* it work?  The ads claim "makes an 8" woofer
sound like a 15"", implying (I guess) it can be used in mixes to punch the bass
way up.

					Brian Rost @tecrus.enet.dec.com

					508-568-6115

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Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: mudgett@bose.com (Mark Mudgett)
Subject: Re: What's a gate?
Organization: Bose Corporation
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:47:41 GMT

What is commonly called the "Phil Collins Gated Snare Sound"
has been attributed to many sources.
According to Peter Gabriel, Phil stole the idea from him.
According to Phil, Peter stole it from HIM.
(These mock accusations are a tongue-in-cheek conspiracy by Phil and Peter)
After they stop chuckling, both admit that they collaborated on the 
development of this technique.  Phil also admits that the idea
was not completely original, but the Genesis implementation was.


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From: button@jug.Eng.Sun.COM (Russ Button)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Motorola Mid-Hi Piezo horn driver
Date: 21 Jan 1993 18:04:40 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: button@jug.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: jug


Motorola makes a mid-range/hi-frequency horn driver that mounts onto
an EV-8HD horn.  I need buy one but can't seem to find a dealer that
carries them.  

I used to buy them from McGee Radio in Kansas City,
but I can't get through to them.  When I call the number that directory
assistance gives me I get a constant busy signal.  Operator assistance
tells me that the line is either off the hook, or is non-functional.
I've also heard that McGee is now out of business (which could explain
the bad phone number...).

McGee used to sell it for about $40 (it "listed" for $100).
Does anyone know of any dealers out there that sell this driver?  

Best wishes,

Russ Button
button@jug.Eng.Sun.COM
Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation
Systems Administration/Engineering Support Organization
(415) 336-5203
From: TTR2+@PITT.EDU (Tod Treganowan)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: WANTED: JBL 4140/4150 used drivers
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:03:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: pub3.TTR2+-260193105557
Followup-To: rec.audio.pro
Organization: Pitt

Folks,

I'm looking for a set of used 2" JBL horn drivers and CD horns (4140s,
4150s or comparable models.)  I'd also consider different brands of similar
quality (TAD, Gauss, whatever).  Has anybody got a couple laying around?

I'll also consider drivers with blown diaphragms as long as everything else
is in decent shape.  I'll take them with or without horns.

Also, I'll consider any used full range or mid/high boxes of decent quality
wich include a 2" horn, (JBL, EAW, Turbosound, Community, etc).  Drop me
some e-mail if you've got anything you'd like to part with.  I can't afford
new, and decent used stuff is hard to find around here.

																																													Thank you    

																																													Tod T.

When the shepherd is weak, the wolf shits wool.

                           13th Century French Fablieaux
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro,rec.music.makers,comp.music,rec.music.synth
From: zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo)
Subject: The Tape Eliminator
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:50:42 GMT
Organization: Inter/Access' Matrix BBS

The Tape Eliminator was an analog delay line that was meant to sound as
if the signal had passed on analog tape.  It was discontinued around 1985.
I can't remember the manufacturer.

Any comments on this device?  I'd also like to buy a couple if I like
the sound.  Does anyone know of a similar device?? (The delay function
is unimportant...I'm just interested in the analog tape simulation).

Another option would be to get a reel-to-reel with a tape loop and just
use it as an 'effects' device via the playback head.

ferenc


Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: larry@bach.udel.edu (Larry Larraga)
Subject: Re: Tascam DA-60 DAT
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:34:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.204159.7052@src.honeywell.com> olson_rick+.mn65_src@ms.mail.src.honeywell.com (Richard A. Olson) writes:
>
>I would also like to know if anyone has a list price on the DA-60.
>

The latest issue of the Tascam news-mag gives the list price of the
DA-60 as $5499 (yowchhh!).

-- 
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Senior Analyst	040 Smith Hall  Newark, Delaware  19716  (302) 831-8895
Internet:  	larry@brahms.udel.edu 

Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: tome@cs.umr.edu (Tom Erb)
Subject: Wanted: Old Vacuum Tube Audio Equipment
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:25:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla
Originator: tome@mcs213h.cs.umr.edu

Hello,

A friend of mine is looking for any good quality vacuum tube audio
equipment. In particular, he wants:
  Open-reel machines,
  compressors / limiters
  equalizers
  signal processors of any kind
  amplifiers (guitar and speaker)
  ...
  Just about anything of good quality (i.e. 600 Ohm inputs and
  outputs preferred)
  
Please reply to this account. Also, include a phone number so I can
have him call you.

Thanks,
Tom Erb
Chief Engineer, KMNR-FM, University of Missouri-Rolla
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: droven@netcom.com (Daryn Roven)
Subject: Post-Production hints?
Summary: Info on conducting a post-prod session?
Keywords: Post offline ADR foley video film
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:02:17 GMT

I am an engineer with experience in album and jingle sessions, but very
little video post-prod.  I have a chance to do some second engineer work
in some film sessions, consisting of ADR, foley, and offline editing.  If
there are any post-production engineers out there, I would appreciate some
feedback on the role of the second engineer in these types of sessions;
I'm sure there are (at least) some documentation idiosyncrasies that it 
would be helpful for me to know going in.

I know this is a somewhat strange request, but any tips would be very
helpful.  Think of it as contributing to the escalation of the art form.

Or, better yet, think of it in terms of what you'd want your second to know.

Or, better yet, think of it in terms of me looking good.

In any event, your comments can be emailed to me at:

                   droven@netcom.com

                Thanks in advance,
                                     Daryn

Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: What's a gate?
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 07:00:36 GMT

In article <130@bbx.basis.com> scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)  
writes:
> >The gate effect attributed to Phil Collins is a gated reverb.
> 
> Actually, it was Peter Gabriel who first used a gated reverb on drums.
> Phil Collins was the drummer in the studio with Gabriel at the time and
> later used the effect on his own solo album (which was most people's
> first exposure to the effect.)

Actually, wasn't the first commercial hit record that Phil used
that technique on the Frita (from ABBA) album?  He produced it,
I believe.  Huge drum sound (at the time)!

--
Nathan Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu

Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: TTR2@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU (Tod Treganowan)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Best source of JBL drivers?
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:28:05 GMT
Followup-To: rec.audio.pro
Organization: Pitt

Howdy!  Does anyone know some good sources for getting JBL drivers at a
good price?  Locally, in Pittsburgh, it seems like everyone wants close to
retail for anything.

Specifically, I'm looking for 2 inch constant directivity horns and drivers
and 12" speakers to build my own mid-high boxes for a small to medium sized
club PA.

I'd also appreciate input on speaker enclosures and what has worked for
you.

I'll also entertain the idea of buying any used components in decent shape
that you may want to sell.  Just remember, I am but a poor humble musician
with a pitifully meager income.

																																														Thank you net buddies,

																																															Tod Treganowan  

P.S.  Does anyone know any specs on JBL 4124B 1" horn drivers?  We have a
pair with blown diaphragms mounted on some really nice Community horns, but
I'm not sure I want to spend $200 bucks to get them working.  Any help is
appreciated.



When the shepherd is weak, the wolf shits wool.

                           13th Century French Fablieaux
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From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro,rec.music.makers,comp.music,rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: The Tape Eliminator
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:39:38 GMT
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <1993Jan25.085042.4045@intacc.uucp> zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo) writes:
>The Tape Eliminator was an analog delay line that was meant to sound as
>if the signal had passed on analog tape.  It was discontinued around 1985.
>I can't remember the manufacturer.
>
>Any comments on this device?  I'd also like to buy a couple if I like
>the sound.  Does anyone know of a similar device?? (The delay function
>is unimportant...I'm just interested in the analog tape simulation).

I recently read an interview with the guy that developed the "Tape Eliminator".
He said they still get calls from people wanting to buy one even though
they haven't been made in several years.  Apparently, recording engineers 
like to use them to simulate analog distortion when recording in a digital 
medium.

-- 
Scott Amspoker                       |    
Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |  Too bad ignorance isn't really
                                     |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
scott@bbx.basis.com                  |
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: weaver@kuttner.sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver)
Subject: Re: Tape deck bias
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:31:19 GMT


In article <1993Jan25.155115.14789@city.cs>, lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun) writes:


|> That is fair enough, in fact I tried it a bit, but what if
|> you're tone deaf? Is there a rough rule of thumb that I can
|> bear in mind?
|> 


Watch the playback on a scope.  Adjust for the best looking sine-wave.
-- 
Eric Weaver  Sony AVTC  677 River Oaks Pkwy, MS 35  SJ CA 95134  408 944-4904
& Chief Engineer, KFJC 89.7 Foothill College, Los Altos Hills CA 94022
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: cms2839@ultb.isc.rit.edu (a.stranger)
Subject: Re: Tape deck bias
Organization: Minimalist Music for Hyperactive Children (MMHC)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:13:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.185157.22090@city.cs> lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun) writes:
>There is a bias knob on my church's analogue tape deck (Sony TCK570)
>but I have always set it in the middle. What can I do with it? Is it
>that with `good' tapes I should increase bias and with el cheapo
>tapes reduce the bias?
>
	The bias knob is used during recording only.  The way to set it
is quite simple:

o  Connect any appropriate source to the deck's inputs and set the
record levels appropriately.

o  Load a blank tape and start recording.

o  Listen, alternately, to the source and the tape (this can obviously
be done only with a three head deck, which will have a "Monitor" switch
to do this).  Using headphones or a good set of control monitors to
listen, adjust the bias knob until the source and the playback sound the
same.

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Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Subject: Re: Program to eliminate noise
Reply-To: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 07:40:15 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.155947.4192@wuecl.wustl.edu> wb1@cec1.wustl.edu (Bill Bartman) writes:
>I am looking for a program for PC which can analyze waveforms and
>remove noise, clicks, and pops.  What I am planning on doing
>is digitizing old analog recordings, "cleaning" them up, and then
>recording onto DAT otr the like.  I have a great stereo, PC, and
>sound-card.  Now all I need is some software which can manipulate
>the file on my computer.  Does anyone know of such a program or
>know of anyone who may know of such a program.

I'd suggest you forget it unless you have five figures to spend.

Analyzing waveforms, removing broadband noise, pops, clicks, etc. 
involves heavy DSP power.  For instance, the Sonic Solutions system,
perhaps the quintessential noise elimination package, requires DSP
cards with 3 motorola 56001's on each card.  These cards are about
$4K each.  The software to do complete noise elinination is about
$46,000.  Not something for amateurs.

Digidesign has hardware that can do it for less money, but it still
isn't cheap.  You will not find a package that can do it entirely in
software, sorry.


--
Gabe Wiener - Columbia Univ.     "This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings 
gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu       to be seriously considered as a means of 
N2GPZ in ham radio circles        communication. The device is inherently of
72355,1226 on CI$                 no value to us." -Western Union memo, 1877
From: mike_d@tfsquad.mn.org (mike diack)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: AV rear for sale
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 08:59:45 CST
Organization: tfsquad public access insane asylum, St Paul MN (+1 612 291 2632)

OK - this aint pro audio - but its as close as the newsgroups get
Spectra Physics air cooled argon laser head & exciter model 262.
Runs off 110volts @ 9 amps $1600
also a wad of AV multiimage gear - mainly Arion - includes Bull
7 inch rightangle lenses, Cheif stackers etc - email if interested
cheers
        Mike.

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Saint Paul, Minnesota
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: tonyb@juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Tony Berke )
Subject: Re: how can i service/adjust my analog tape decks ?
Organization: M.I.T. Lincoln Lab - Group 43
Date: 20 Jan 93 07:19:52

fromm@rock.enet.dec.com was, amongst other things, looking for
a source of reference cassettes.  I just recently purchased
several tapes, Dolby Level, head height, speed reference, azimuth,
and a frequency response tape.  I got them from RCA test tapes,
108 Montichello Rd, Weaverville, NC.  Their prices seemed pretty
low compared to what I was expecting -- most of the tapes were about
$20 each, except for the frequency response tape, which for some
reason was quite a bit more.

Perhaps the rest of you guys can fill me in on the relative value
and quality of these tapes, but so far they seem like a pretty good
deal compared to getting the  same things from Teac, et. al.

Tony
From: wkc@cup.portal.com (William Kirk Clendinning)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Re: Sound Reinforcement Misc. Equipment FORSALE
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 00:02:58 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

(2) Akai, MG14D, 12 track recorder with DBX noise reduction,
(2) Akai, ML14, autolocators
(5) Akai, MPX-820, 8x2 midi automated mixers
(1) Adam Smith, Zeta 3, synchronizer with midi mapping.

asking $10k obo

kirkc@amex-trs.com
wkc@cup.portal.com

kirk
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: gw214790@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Galen Watts)
Subject: Re: Aphex "Big Bottom"
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:23:14 GMT
Organization: Colorado Concert Sound

In article <116@bbx.basis.com> scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.143456.25614@ryn.mro4.dec.com> rost@tecrus.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost) writes:
>>
>>I've seen ads for a new Aphex unit, I think it's called type C2, and it adds a
>>"big bottom" bass enhancement circuit with "overhang" and "girth" controls.
>>Anyone know how it works, *does* it work?  The ads claim "makes an 8" woofer
>>sound like a 15"", implying (I guess) it can be used in mixes to punch the bass
>>way up.
>
>I recently bought the Aphex C2.  This was my first aural exciter purchase.
>I immediately dug up my DAT mixes and ran them through the C2 to see how
>they might have been improved by it.  There is no question about the
>high end.  The *prudent* use of the high end exciter absolutely improved
>clarity, sparkle, and stereo separation.  In fact, just when I thought
>Scott Amspoker                       |    

dbx used to make a sub-harmonic synthesizer that sounded good if used 
****prudently****.  I would never use such a device on the entire mix,
some instruments/voices don't need that much bottom end.

As for aural exciters (read harmonic distortion generators), I have tried them
on single channels and on entire mixes, and I have come to the conclusion
that if you try a different mic placement or use a mixing console with a
good design, you don't need one.  Their use should be limited to punching
up a poorly designed system.  I've noticed that PAs with JBL compression
drivers almost always have a harmonic distortion generator in them.  The 
ferquency response of a JBL compression driver has very narrow peaks that
are 10 to 15 dB above the average (narrow=5-10 Hz bandwidth).  This causes
the house engineer to dip the eq's to reduce the peakiness and since the
average drops also, you need something to bring back the "sparkle".

I'd use one to hold the door open, but not for much else.

Don't try to solve acoustic problems with electronic solutions.


Galen Watts, KF0YJ                  | On the road with a TAD house
Colorado Concert Sound              | system with TAD4002 hi end.
				    | Also on 14.18-14.2 MHz, 0600-0800 UTC


Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: v035550@stortek.com (Steve Monroe)
Subject: ELCO part numbers in ADAT?
Originator: v035550@stcvax
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.  Louisville, CO
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:40:53 GMT

H E L P!                                                                        
                                                                                
Does ANYONE know the ELCO part number for                                       
the connector used in the Alesis ADAT????                                       
                                                                                
Both male and female part numbers appreciated...                                
                                                                                
Please respond via email.                                                       
                                                                                
sjm                                                                             
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro,rec.music.makers,comp.music,rec.music.synth
From: g_house@goes11.enet.dec.com (Greg House)
Subject: Re: The Tape Eliminator
Reply-To: g_house@goes11.enet.dec.com (Greg House)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Colorado Springs CO
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:26:57 GMT


Chandler currently makes a device that's designed to sound like a
tape delay unit.  It's all solid state.

Greg
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: cook@bebop.esd.sgi.com (Doug Cook)
Subject: Re: DAT for music + backup?
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 19:57:45 GMT


In article <93Jan27.110824est.47978@neat.cs.toronto.edu>, hector@cs.toronto.edu writes:
> I'm not sure this is the right group to post this, but ...
> 
> Are there DAT units that could be used to record/play music and serve as a
> tape backup for a Macintosh computer?  Would this have to be a pro unit, or
> are there consumer units oufitted with the right sort of digital I/O?
> 
> Stated differently, are any of the DAT tape backup units advertised in
> computer magazines also suitable for music?  That is, do they have the right
> inputs (RCA or XLR or something) and digital/analog converters? Or can
> suitable add-on components do this?
> 
> And finally... Where can I find out about this kind of thing?

The only DAT drive of which I am aware that handles both data and
audio formats is the Python, made by Archive Data. The firmware
that allows the drive to read/write audio DATs was developed for
Silicon Graphics, but is owned by Archive Data, so it may be available
for other platforms. (Last time I checked, it was only available for the
Silicon Graphics Indigo). If this has changed, someone please let me
know.

	-Doug

Doug Cook, cook@sgi.com		Software Engineer	 Silicon Graphics, Inc.

"...Men ought to be treated well or crushed, because they can avenge themselves
of lighter injuries, of more serious ones they cannot..."	-Machiavelli
From: mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Re: What's a gate?
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:50:05 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <1993Jan20.042055.9066@medtron.medtronic.com>
                              sh0001@medtronic.COM (Scott Hansohn) writes:

>Phil Collins uses gated snares.  Any ideas what sort of gate works well with
>snares?

The gate effect attributed to Phil Collins is a gated reverb.  This means
that the reverb signal is included in the mix only for the duration of the
share hit itself, with no reverb "tail".  The only special requirement of
a gate to be used to produce this effect is that it must have a separate
"side chain", or control input, so that the dry snare signal can be used
to control the gate, whose audio path is passing only the wet portion of
the reverb.  Other than that, the usual qualities associated with a good
gate are desirable.

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    !tektronix!gvgpsa!gvgspd!mrk        |         - The Who, Bargain
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun)
Subject: Tape deck bias
Organization: City University, London
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 18:51:57 GMT

There is a bias knob on my church's analogue tape deck (Sony TCK570)
but I have always set it in the middle. What can I do with it? Is it
that with `good' tapes I should increase bias and with el cheapo
tapes reduce the bias?

--
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/___/_/_/\/ City University, London EC1V 0HB \ \___\_\_\
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