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From: kjcole@well.sf.ca.us (Kevin Cole)
Subject: Why does VAX/VMS Gopher client hang?  Any patches?
Summary: It ate 16 hours of CPU time.
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:11:21 GMT


From: CADS_COLE@GALLUA.BITNET (Kevin Cole; Washington DC)
Organization: Gallaudet Research Institute

Hi.

About a week ago, I downloaded, edited and compiled the VMS Gopher client from 
boombox.  I later got the version from ohio state.  Both seemed to work fine, 
but yesterday, I got a message from our Computer Services Dept. telling me that 
there was a runaway process that ate up 16 hours of CPU time, running my image 
of Gopher.  Needless to say, this did nothing to improve my already tarnished 
reputation.

The user who had the problem pretty savvy when it comes to technology.  She
told me she tried the usual ctrl-C & ctrl-Y to abort the thing when it never
came back, but she said it didn't get her anywhere.  So she just walked away
from it.  I believe she was doing a search at the time.  This morning, another
user (less sophisticated) told me that she got frozen out while just trying to 
get a directory.

I'm very new to the wonderful world of Gophers, and so I don't necessarily know 
what I'm doing, but do other VAX/VMS GOPHER users have the same problems?  Or 
is there a patch out there?

Thanks for any info.
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From: gopher@boombox.micro.umn.edu (The Gopher Team)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: PC Gopher II v1.05r3 Released
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:26:18 GMT
Distribution: comp
Original-To: gopher-news@boombox.micro.umn.edu


The latest version of the PC client, PC Gopher II v1.05r3, is now available
from the  usual place: boombox.micro.umn.edu, directory /pub/gopher/PC_client.
This version fixes the CSO bugs reported over the last few weeks.

Note: As usual, you'll need to update (or create) your GOPHER.REZ file by
using the /INIT switch the first time you run the new version; see the manual
and release notes for further information.

Outstanding Reported Bugs.
-------------------------
WAIS query selector strings still aren't handled correctly.  Next release.

The file-save dialog box is buggy; there's still no way to set the default
directory for saving files.  Next release, or the one after that.

Fixed Bugs.
-----------
CSO query timeouts are now handled correctly.

Long CSO responses no longer blow up the program.

Various text formatting glitches fixed.

Plugged memory leak caused by using bookmark dialog box to initiate a query.

New version of the TCP driver with better BOOTP support.


 - The Gopher Team
From: tplabuza@EPX.CIS.UMN.EDU ("Ted Labuza")
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: FTP in Turbo Gopher
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:59:43 GMT
Reply-To: "Ted Labuza" <tplabuza@EPX.CIS.UMN.EDU>
Distribution: comp
Original-To: gopher-news@boombox.micro.umn.edu

In the menu of Turbo Gopher is a line to enable ftp fetches. Has that been 
installed and if so how is it done? Can it be done under system 6.07?

Dr Ted Labuza      tplabuza@EPX.CIS.UMN.EDU
Department of Food Science & Nutrition
136 AMLMS U of Minnesota
St Paul, MN 55108
Home Fax 612-633-0627
Voice  612-624-9701  UM Fax 612-625-5272


There is no such thing as a poverty of "TIME". Rather there is a poverty of 
being able to say "NO" !

Time is Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once".  Except in 
my office which exists in a time warp!!!
From: MTan@uci.edu (Mary Tan)
Subject: Re: numb record in link files
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Organization: NTS, UCI
Distribution: alt.gopher
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:04:26 GMT

In article <MRUBIN.92Oct8002131@ra.cs.umb.edu> mrubin@cs.umb.edu (Mark Rubin) writes:

>I am currently running v1.02 of gopher on our unix machines. I had noticed
>a problem with numb in that on the top-level menu only numb=1 would
>work, but in any sum-menu numb=(*anything*) would work fine. Is this a
>problem with the release or just a local problem? And does v1.03 for
>unix fix this?

  What is numb for?  I saw this when I run MakeWAISindex found in the 
distribution.

  Mary
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: sb@helix.nih.gov (Steve Bailey)
Subject: a group of gophers?
Reply-To: sb@helix.nih.gov (Steve Bailey)
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:17:35 GMT

Does anyone know what a group of gophers is called?

We're getting ready to present a seminar on using gopher at NIH
and we are trying to anticipate any questions that might arise.
Our audience will be scientists, after all!

-----
Steve Bailey  Internet: sb@helix.nih.gov   National Institutes of Health
              Phone: (301)496-4823         Bldg. 12B, Rm. 2N-207
              FAX: (301)480-6245           Bethesda, MD 20892
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: Turbogopher UI requests
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:56:33 GMT
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central

JB> == Jurgen Botz <jbotz@mtholyoke.edu> 

 JB> - A "Bookmarks" menu.  Bookmarks aren't really a gopher directory, so
 JB>   they shouldn't be represented the same way.  It's ok for the Unix
 JB>   gopher client, since there is a limited way you can represent item
 JB>   lists in a curses environment, but on the Mac it doesn't make much
 JB>   sense.  I'd suggest a "Bookmarks" menu that has "Add..", "Delete...",
 JB>   etc. on top, followed by all the currently set bookmarks.

Preferably have the bookmarks automatically get %1-%0 as "shortcuts" for
the first 10, to enhance the keyboard shortcuts Jurgen also suggested
(which I deleted :-).
--
Christopher K. Davis      |       NET.INSIGHTS INTO ARTISTIC CRITICISM:
<ckd@eff.org>   EFF #14   | ``[Y]ou don't cure bad art by locking it all up
System Administrator, EFF | in one museum, you cure it by throwing tomatoes
+1 617 864 0665  [CKD1]   | at bad artists.'' --Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
From: helper@festival.ed.ac.uk (A Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: titles, comments etc.
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:44:10 GMT

Can I have a title line in a gopher server file?  Can I also have
comment lines in the gopher server files? These would not be shown to
the client.

I have just started using gopher, I have the gopher protocol document
but it does not make these things very clear

Arthur Wilson
Edinburgh University
From: tim@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: a group of gophers?
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:43:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: bvc.1992Oct15.224306.2358
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA


   What are a group of gophers called?

   How about a "gaggle of gophers"?


*************************************************************************
Tim Rebnord            *
tim@bvc.edu            *   Knowledge is limited only by one's ignorance.
Buena Vista College    *   
Storm Lake, IA  50588  *
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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz)
Subject: Turbogopher UI requests
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:19:05 GMT

I just retrieved the new Turbogopher Mac client, and I think it's very
nice, but I have some user interface gripes...

Turbogopher can display gopher directories in a single window, or open
a new window for every directory.  I think the former makes _much_
more sense from a UI standpoint... considering how quickly one can
traverse very deep gopher hierarchies, who wants a new window for
every directory?  Of course I have no problem with the later being
available as an option, but for single directory windows there are
some necessary UI features missing...

- An "up" botton.  The pop-up menu is too confusing (information
  clutter) and requires too much manipulation (mouse-down - drag
  - mouse-up vs. just click).

- A menu option for making a new gopher directory window at the
  current directory.  (i.e. let me browse gopherspace in a single
  window, until I want to split into two windows, then let me do
  that.)

Other UI features that would be greatly desirable...

- Keyboard control!  Let me use arrow keys a la Unix gopher, i.e.
  up-down for moving within a directory, right-left for moving
  into and out of directories.   This is one of the things I love
  most about the Unix gopher client... this type of manipulation is
  _fast_ and such is only appropriate for the "Turbogopher".

- A "Bookmarks" menu.  Bookmarks aren't really a gopher directory, so
  they shouldn't be represented the same way.  It's ok for the Unix
  gopher client, since there is a limited way you can represent item
  lists in a curses environment, but on the Mac it doesn't make much
  sense.  I'd suggest a "Bookmarks" menu that has "Add..", "Delete...",
  etc. on top, followed by all the currently set bookmarks.

--
Jurgen Botz                  |   Internet: JBotz@mtholyoke.edu
Academic Systems Consultant  |     Bitnet: JBotz@mhc.bitnet
Mount Holyoke College        |      Voice: (US) 413-538-2375 (daytime)
South Hadley, MA, USA        | Snail Mail: J. Botz, 01075-0629
From: redmond@engr.wisc.edu (Mike Redmond)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Help finding information on Gopher
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:30:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Oct16.133026.16629
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison
Originator: redmond@hobie.engr.wisc.edu


I have been looking for historical trend data about a wide range of
measures. I found just about everything I needed for time-series
statistics in a machine readable spreadsheet/database package from
CoWorks Corporation called the CoWorks Time Series Library. I found
statistics/series for GNP, world population, number of degrees granted,
number of prisoners, etc. A really broad spectrum of time series data.

There are still a few areas that I did not find in CoWorks. These are:

Statistics on computing capability per dollar time series including
MIPS/$, RAM bits/$ and Mass storage bits/$.

Statistics on banking transactions per period (day, month, year) in
time series.

Statistics on number of reservations (probably airline) per period.

I could use some help in finding appropriate sources for getting time
series data in these areas. If anyone has any leads of good GOPHER sources
for these statistics and time series info, let me know.

Thanks

Mike Redmond (redmond@engr.wisc.edu)
Director  CAE, UW Madison
(608)-263-1584
From: eric_morgan@ncsu.edu (Eric Lease Morgan)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Announcing a gopher at NCSU Libraries
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:19:42 GMT
Organization: NCSU Libraries


Try the Gopher at North Carolina State University Libraries.
Point your client to dewey.lib.ncsu.edu on port 70. I have
tried to implement the beginings of a "library without walls."

Below is the welcome text and a (slightly old) map of the gopher.

Eric Lease Morgan, Systems Librarian
NCSU Libraries
Box 7111, Room 2316-b
Raleigh, NC 27695-7111
(919) 515-6182
eric_morgan@ncsu.edu

===================

Welcome to the Gopher at the North Carolina State University Libraries!


PURPOSE

The purpose of this gopher to provide an organized and accessible means
to Internet resources pertinent to the student, faculty, and staff needs
of the North Carolina State University.


STUDY CARRELS

The gopher is basically divided into three parts: Study Carrels,
Reference Desk, Beyond NCSU. Each of the discipline specific "study
carrols" contain Internet resources pertinent to that discipline. These
resources include such things as BBSs, OPACS, reference works, texts
(books or journals), and indexes.


REFERENCE DESK

The Reference Desk contains Internet resources of very general
applicability that are useful to just about anybody.


BEYOND NCSU

The section Beyond NCSU provides links Internet resources similar to
this gopher. Many of these links are also contained within the Study
Carrols.


MAP

The outline below corresponds to how this gopher is organized. Use it as
a map to the resources contained herein.

 About This Gopher
 About North Carolina State University
 Happenings!
 About the NCSU Libraries
 NCSU's "Library Without Walls"
   Discipline Specific "Study Carrols"
     Agriculture and Biology
     Astronomy and Astrophysics
     Education
     Government and Law
     Library and Information Science
     Literature and Journalism
     Medicine
     Religous Studies
     Sociology
   Reference Desk
     Address Books
     CIA World Fact Book 1991
     General Indexes (UnCover, DIALOG, WAIS)
     Periodic Table of Elements
     Roget's Thesaurus (Published 1911)
     Geographic Name Server
     U.S. Telephone Area Codes
     USENET news
     Weather
   Software tools for gathering information
     DOS
     Macintosh
     Unarchiving utilities
     Windows
  Beyond NCSU
   BBSs
   CWISs
   OPACs
   Gophers


MAINTENANCE

This gopher is maintained by me, Eric Lease Morgan. Give me a call or
drop me a line, and tell me what you think about this gopher. I love to
get email.
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: apeltone@smtplink.oulu.fi (Antti Peltonen)
Subject: DOS Gopher server ?
Organization: ATK-keskus
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 09:12:10 GMT

Hello out there,

I have heard that there is Gopher server for DOS.

Is it vaporware or not?

If not... 

1. Where to find?

2. Is it using packet drivers for TCP/IP ?

-Antti-

apeltone@smtplink.oulu.fi
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: schemers@leland.Stanford.EDU (Roland Schemers)
Subject: snmp gateway :-)
Organization: Distributed Computing Group, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 21:51:19 GMT

No, I haven't written on (yet :-), but I thought I would get the ball
rolling in some people's head. I think it would be fairly cool to have
some sort of gopher<->snmp gateway to browse a host's mib table. 

For example:

 -->  1.  SNMP Agent <?>

Then you would type in a host that you want to browse. You would have this
return a directory containing the mib tree, or directories containing
pre-formated views of the SNMP data.

You could also setup books marks for certain hosts, etc. For example, a 
bookmark to a router's arp cache table, etc.

Just a thought... :-)

Roland
-- 
Roland J. Schemers III              |            Networking Systems
Systems Programmer                  |            168 Pine Hall   (415)-723-6740
Distributed Computing Group         |            Stanford, CA 94305-4122
Stanford University                 |            schemers@Slapshot.Stanford.EDU
From: Daniel A. Torrey <daniel@boombox.micro.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: Gopher & PopMail in One Package?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A702E92F7E018258@terrapin.micro.umn.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 15 Oct 92 15:23:59 GMT
Organization: CIS/DSP University of Minnesota
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:22:01 GMT

Subject: Gopher & PopMail in One Package?
From: mcgee
Date: 13 Oct 92 11:51:49 PDT
In article <1992Oct13.115149.2870@nic.csu.net> , mcgee@nic.csu.net writes:
>
>Hello, Gopher-folk! Once again, I have a unique question:
>
>Has anyone integrated PopMail anda Gopher Client into
>one package? We'd like something very user friendly, such
>as 2 buttons, one for each service, or a Gopher entry
>which would invoke PopMail. 

It's an interesting idea.  The PC programmers here have talked about it a
little, but
it would be quite a way off if we decided to do it.

---

Daniel A. Torrey
CIS/DSP University of Minnesota
daniel@boombox.micro.umn.edu
(612) 626-8663
From: zlsiimw@mcchpc.mcc.ac.uk (Mark Whidby)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: TCP/Connect II vs. NCSA Tel
Date: 15 Oct 92 08:23:34 GMT
Reply-To: M.Whidby@mcc.ac.uk
Distribution: comp
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <9210141549.AA07989@boombox.micro.umn.edu>,
pramod_pandya@qmbridge.calstate.edu ("Pramod Pandya") writes:
|> Mail*Link(r) SMTP               TCP/Connect II vs. NCSA Telnet
|> 
|> 
|>   I understand that the Gopher program currently supports NCSA Telnet, i.e
|> one can save a session as a Telnet session - In such a case one would need
|> NCSA Telnet to execute the Telnet document to get to the service provided
|> by that session. Is there a plan to support other Telent programs within
|> Gopher
|>  like TCP/Connect II - TCP/Connect also supports Telnet documents - but
|> since Gopher supports NCSA Telnet ther is no way of converting the NCSA
|> Telnet document to TCP/Connect document - So what I am asking is that - Is
|> ther a plan to support TCP/Connect or does anyone have a program to conver
|> NCSA Telnet session to TCP/Connect session????

I don't really understand what you're saying. The G_TEL variable can
contain a string which is the pathname of whichever telnet program you
wish to use together with a couple of parameters for the address and port
number so you should be able to use another telnet apart from NCSA telnet.
However, I have no experience of TCP/Connect II so I may be wrong but I 
would have thought you shouldn't have any problems if it works with a
packet driver. Anybody else care to comment?
-- 
_____________________________________________________________
Mark Whidby, Distributed Systems, Manchester Computing Centre
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: heycke@sumex-aim.stanford.edu (Torsten Heycke)
Subject: Re: Turbogopher UI requests
Followup-To: comp.infosystems.gopher
Organization: Knowledge Systems Lab
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 22:25:47 GMT

In article <BvrK7t.JC5@mtholyoke.edu>, jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz)
wrote:

> 
> Turbogopher can display gopher directories in a single window, or open
> a new window for every directory.  I think the former makes _much_
> more sense from a UI standpoint... considering how quickly one can
> traverse very deep gopher hierarchies, who wants a new window for
> every directory?  Of course I have no problem with the later being
> available as an option, but for single directory windows there are
> some necessary UI features missing...
> 
> - An "up" botton.  The pop-up menu is too confusing (information
>   clutter) and requires too much manipulation (mouse-down - drag
>   - mouse-up vs. just click).

I agree. I think a good model is MacGopher (by Jonzy at Utah). You can
scroll horizontally in the window to navigate to previously-accessed
directories. Since most text is 80 char wide or less (and thus viewable on
small Mac monitors), there is little compelling reason to need the
horizontal scroll bar for text viewing. Why not use it to look at
previously accessed directories?

Torsten
From: arvind@brutus.ct.gmr.com (Arvind Sabharwal)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: IP addresses and Gopher
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:43:44 GMT
Reply-To: arvind@brutus.ct.gmr.com (Arvind Sabharwal)
Organization: General Motors Research Laboratories

If somebody has experienced the following problem before, I will
appreciate if you can drop me a line:

I started a Gopher Server on a remote computer that is not in
my Domain-name service: I can access the computer only by its
IP address and not by its name. 

When I try to access the remote server from a local client, I get into
it fine for the first time but I cannot initiate any subsequent
transactions because the local client tries to connect to the remote 
server thru a name rather than an IP address. The initial connection
works fine using the IP address but all subsequent connections fail.

Am I configuring this wrong or is there an inherent bug in Gopher
clients while handling IP addresses?

I will appreciate a reply. Thanks

____
Arvind Sabharwal                arvind@gmr.com (internet)
General Motors Research Labs    (313)986-1959 (phone)
Warren, MI 48090-9055           (313)986-2995 (fax)
From: qianx001@staff.tc.umn.edu ("Zhong Qian-1")
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: mailing list (fwd)
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:07:39 GMT
Distribution: comp
Original-To: gopher-news@boombox.micro.umn.edu





---------- Text of forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 15:40:58 -0700
From: "Liza C. Gabato" <liza@hera.berkeley.edu>
To: gopher-news@boombox.micro.umn.edu
Subject: mailing list


please remove liza@cs.berkeley.edu from the gopher mailing list.

thanks again!!

/liza
From: lecom@slhp1.epfl.ch (Claude Lecommandeur)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: Displaying images
Date: 15 Oct 92 08:50:31 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article <1bi5iaINN1f3@golem.wcc.govt.nz>, brockie@golem.wcc.govt.nz (Roger Brockie) writes:
|> 
|> Which gopher clients support the displaying of imgaes ?
|> I hope I've got it right, that its a function of the client not the server.
|> Xgopher1.1a won't acknowledge the files exist.  TurboGopher displays
|> the entries but says its an unsupported format and the unix client
|> tries to display it (yes, GIF on a vt100 hmmm) but of course can't.
|> 
|> Any help would be appreciated.
|> 
|> Roger
|> -- 
|> brockie@golem.wcc.govt.nz

   There is patch to Xgopher1.1a at boombox.micro.umn.edu in /pub/gopher/incoming
called xgopher.unofficial.patch, it has several nice features and among them, it
cat display images if you have a viewer (xv, xloadimage, ...) to display them.
   The README file is xgopher.unofficial.patch.README at the same place.

   Claude.

-- 


                    Claude Lecommandeur
                    Service Informatique Central
                    Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
                    1015 LAUSANNE (SWITZERLAND)
                    E-Mail : lecom@sic.epfl.ch
                    Tel : (41 21) 693-22-97
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: lindner@mudhoney.micro.umn.edu (Paul Lindner)
Subject: Re: Link between Gopher and news groups
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:58:19 GMT

In <9210061532.AA07105@boombox.micro.umn.edu> BBABCOC@AMERICAN.EDU (Barbara Babcock) writes:

>Hello.  I would like to bring Clarinet News into Gopher but I do not know
>how to build the link between Gopher and the news groups.  We have Penn State
>University's Net News.  

If you look at my previous posting, you'll see the U of MNs scheme to
gopherize Clarinet news.  You'll need to be able to access the raw
news on the disk, or be able to NFS mount it for it to work properly.

> I think this leads to another question.  Since we pay
>for Clarinet, people who are not from American University cannot see it.  How
>do I configure the file to be seen only by those who are authorized to see it?
>I appreciate any help people can give me.  Thank you in advanced.

You can specify an optional security file for gopher, and in it put
network numbers and domain names that are allowed to read UPI news.

--
 | Paul Lindner | lindner@boombox.micro.umn.edu   | Slipping into madness
 |              | Computer & Information Services | is good for the sake
 | Gophermaster | University of Minnesota         | of comparision.
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