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From: bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (T R Stickland)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: stupid people
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:19:57 GMT
Organization: School of Biological Sciences, University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris) writes:
>
>Remember the comparison Motorcyclist did a couple years back pitting the
>Corvette ZR against the Yamaha FZR1000? The *only* contest the bike lost was
>the skid pad. The bike blasted the Vette in straightaways on the track
>and on the drag strip. The two best parts of that test was the fact that the
>car ate up a thousand dollars worth of tires, and the bike barely showed
>any use and the fact that you could buy something like seven FZR's for the
>price of the Vette.
>
>-John

BIKE magazine in the UK did a test a few months ago.  They saw an advert. for a
car that claimed it was the only production vehicle that could compete on
even terms with modern performance bikes.  So BIKE decided to get a few
fast bikes together, challenge the guys who built the car, and blow them into
the weeds.

The trouble was they couldn't beat the damn car!  Straight line speed saw
serious litre sports bikes beat it - but only by a narrow margin (they
were using timing lights, it was a close run thing).  In 'usable' performance
terms the car was equal to the best and better than the middleweight bikes.
And it went through corners as well (you should have seen the damn tyres
on it!).  I think the best bikes had the edge on a perfect track surface,
but in 'real world' terms they reckoned the car was just as good.

It was a Westfield S8 - very lightweight two seater with a tuned Rover V8 in
it.  It only did 15mpg, but they reckoned they could get 15-20k out of the 
tyres.

I doubt you'll see many Westfields on the road to dent your ego though...

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From: randy@ninja.megatek.com (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: More gasohol
Reply-To: randy@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:52:02 GMT

In article <viking.717826958@vincent1.iastate.edu> viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
|	Are you kidding?  My life savings won't even buy me a new bike,
|let alone a Cobra or a Viper.  However, we can settle this in true DoD
|fashion: Calling the Keeper of the Stats!  Calling the Keeper of the Stats!
|
|	What's the 1/4mile time, 0-60, 0-100, and 0-60-0 times of the
|FJ1200 and the Shelby 427 Cobra?
|
|	I seem to recall 0-60-0 in the low 6 second range, possibly less.

  For the Viper or Cobra??  SO?

  0-60 for the FJ1200 is in the 3.0 second range, 60 to zero for the FJ12 is
in the two-second range.  For that matter, 0-60 for most sport-liter bikes is
in the 3.0 and high 2's, the ZX-11 is supposedly 2.8.

  You'll have to do better than that for those wimpy cars.  I recall top-fuel
dragsters and other real drag machinery making 0-60 in the less than 2.0
second range, but that takes some special equipment, obviously.

Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy
From: gt1430a@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeff J McCoskey)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: starting problem
Keywords: damdifino'
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:39:04 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


	I find that after a long break, a little starter fluid sprayed into the
air intake will typically get it to start right up.  (For awhile, I carried
the fluid ~2$ everywhere I rode, JIC).  If that doesn't work, I 'shock
treat' the cylinders by removing the plugs and spraying the fluid
directly into the cylinders.  I've never heard this reccommended, but it works
for me. . . 
	The only problem I've ever had with a rolling start is that if it
doesn't work, you now have your non-running 500lb bike at the BOTTOM of the hill.
-- 
Jeff J McCoskey		"They mean to immanentize the Eschaton! (fnord)"
  DoD# 750A2		 			- Hagbard Celine
    KotBFD
Internet: gt1430a@prism.gatech.edu
From: dsc3jfs@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Jim Small)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Double  minus 5
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:25:09 GMT
Organization: Naval Medical Research & Development Command

In article <BvBKB2.GLG@news.udel.edu> andersen@me.udel.edu (Stephen Andersen) writes:
>In article <25621@oasys.dt.navy.mil> cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Cervi) writes:
>>Watch out in West Virginia.  They really are serious about the suggested
>>speeds.  If it says 35, you might be in the ditch if you try for 40.
>
>Just ask Jonathan "HoJo" Polito about the suggested speed
>markings in North Carolina ;-)

suggested speeds Horizontal or Vertical?
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The 3B2 can bite me.
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From: david@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (David Robinson)
Subject: Re: Cager cornering....  (was Re: stupid people)
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:25:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep18.090238.528@halfdome.sf.ca.us> bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>now this is some powerful logic.  what, praytell, did they replace the
>mustangs with?  crown victorias (for you limies & kiwis, that a big fat
>4-door sedan made by ford).

Or as my friend in the CHP calls them, Queen Mary's.  A high speed
lane change will often put you in a lane not of your choice.  Ah the
joys of government procurement.
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:54:51 GMT

Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
>blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) wrote:

>> Of the dozens (hundreds?) of Denizens I've met at the various rec.moto
>> gathers, I can only recall two with open face helmets, and one of those
>> was a shortie, for what that's worth. 

>Humm.  Bad influence, these DoDers.  I've gone from no helmet at all
>(in 28 years) to an open face since meeting these chaps.  Next thing
>you know, it'll be full-face.  It is _how they ride_ that persuades me!

Flee while you've still got the chance! I've spent a small fortune in
riding gear since I started hanging out with this crowd. (And I have
plans to spend even more, that's the scarey part.)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
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From: karen@angelo.amd.com (Karen Black)
Subject: Re: Faulty chain adjustment
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Santa Clara, CA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 05:27:28 GMT

In article <29SEP92105121@fnalo.fnal.gov> krafft@fnalo.fnal.gov writes:
>What I'm asking is, has anyone's chain busted or fallen off at
>highway speeds?

Yes; I lost the chain to my first 250 Exciter while passing a truck at
65.  The engine revved up suddenly, while the bike started slowing.
I stopped, walked back, and found the chain (but no master link).
Cobbling a link together with safety wire didn't work, so my friend
tok me to the nearest town, where we found someone with a link that
"might work" (Los Banos has no bike or hardware shops open on Sunday
evening).  By the time we made it back to my bike, it was gone.

I've since learned how lucky I was that the chain just fell off.

Karen Black
From: djm@morpheus.wustl.edu (David Maconochie)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Procedures for raising the dead?
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:47:31 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: morpheus.wustl.edu

kjberte@cray.com (Kurt Bertelsen) writes:


>has been sitting in a pole shed for 10+ years.  His son had the bike

>What is the best method of reviving this beast?

In order of importance:

If the engine did not turn easily, a re-bore would save a lot of later
trouble.  
If the engine did turn, then:

a) drain the old oil,  flush it with flushing oil (do not run engine, just
turn it with th ekick start)

b) change the oil filter, air filter, points, plugs, battery

Assume it now starts, run incarefully for 500 miles.

Tyres will probably be rotted/cracked/unsafe- replace them.
Wheel bearings should be checked for smoothness.

Replace hydraulic fluid in front brake.  Change fork fluid. Take off the
drive chain and clean and lubricate/replace.

Happy cheap riding!
-- 
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David Maconochie
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston)
Subject: Re: MSF: BRC or ERC?
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 13:44:56 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University

In article <LOTTO.92Oct1192423@laura.harvard.edu> lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:
>>>>>> On 1 Oct 92 20:16:09 GMT, tim@intrepid.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tim Seiss) said:
>Tim> I have one last chance to take the courses in the month of
>Tim> October.  There are a few openings left if both the Beginning
>Tim> Rider Course and the Experienced Rider Course, but I have to
>Tim> sign up *now* if I want to get into one.  My question to any
>Tim> of you experienced riders, is which one I should sign up for?
>
>The MRC:RSS (what you refer to as the beginning course) will teach you
>a lot more.  Some of it will be very basic and perhaps boring to you
>(I assume that you know how to perform basic riding maneuvers).  The
>advantage to taking the MRC:RSS is that you get the chance to review
>your riding technique from the ground up.  The feedback you will get
>can be quite valuable.
>
>The ERC presumes a lot about basic riding skills. . .

I agree with Jerry.  Off road riding and street riding make use of different
techniques.  For me some of the most difficult students to teach have been
experienced Moto-Xers.  Some of the problems they have had include riding
posture, keeping feet up in turns, and braking technique.  These are all part
of the basic skills covered in the MRC:RSS.  There isn't much time devoted to
the basic physical skills in the ERC.

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From: ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern)
Subject: Re: Wind Triangles?  What are they?
Organization: NCAR/UCAR
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:26:18 GMT

In article <BD.92Sep26084403@fluent.UUCP>, bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:
 
> Never one to deny my fellows beings the opportunity for having fun
> at other people's expense, I ask another question that shows
> an enviable lack of knowledge (ignorance is bliss, and all
> that).
 
> What the heck is a wind triangle?  I think that was the phrase
> used (Aerostitch makes one, whatever it is).

A damn good wedding present (thanks, John!)

Do you tie a bandanna around your neck when it's cold?  Just like
that, except the bandanna is gore-tex, and has a nice soft fuzzy
side to put against your neck, and it closes with velcro. 

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From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Wind Triangles?  What are they?
Date: 26 Sep 92 15:58:57 GMT
Distribution: na
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Brice Dowaliby (bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU) wrote:
: What the heck is a wind triangle?  I think that was the phrase
: used (Aerostitch makes one, whatever it is).

Oh good, I've been wanting to ask also, but I've been to busy looking
ignorant in the gasohol thread.

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From: smm@rodan.UU.NET (Steve Mansfield)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Almost had it stolen tonite!
Date: 29 Sep 1992 08:27:24 -0400
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

In article <183661@pyramid.pyramid.com> rcl@pyramid.COM (Rich "Black Dragon" Lewis) writes:
>A friend had something simular happen last week, a cage was on his ass for over 10
>miles when the cage tried to run him off the road. My friend ran it up to 95+ Mph
>passed his favorite police enjoying a donut, and pointed at the cage. The cop
>pulled this moron over, turns out he was drunk, on a suspended license, and
>pissed.The cager is currently in jail on DWI, Wreckless driving, Speeding, 
>Attempted Murder, and Attempted Vehicular Man Slaughter. 

And the crowd goes WILD!!!!!!!!!!  Can I kick him a couple times
too?!?!?!

>There are some real sicko's on the road.

Don't we know it.

>Rich's Rules of Persuit:
>	1. Never go on deserted roads, the more public and well lit the better.

Sometimes difficult to avoid, unfortunately...

>	2. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER let them know where you live, go to a police 
>	   station, or draw as much attention to yourself as possible from
>           passers by or other motorist.

Good call.

>	3. Remember that a moving target is harder to hit, so don't stop and get 
>	   off the bike unless you know you are safe.

Good point also.  Also a good thing to remember is that lane
splittsharing can actually save your life.  It can put
distance between you and a psycho-weenie-from-hell (tm).

>	4. Get their license plate number and if possible any other info about
>	   the vehicle.

Only make a point of doing this if doing so is safe.  Don't stop/slow
down to do it.  This will let your pursuer catch up/mow you down like a
dog.

Steve Mansfield	    | The system we've learned says we're equal under law
smm@uunet.uu.net    | But the streets are reality, the weak and poor will fall
1983 Suzuki GS550E  | Let's tip the power balance and tear down the crown
DoD# 1718	    | Educate the masses, we'll burn the White House down.
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From: clayb@county.lmt.mn.org (Clay Babcock)
Subject: Yamaha Vision Manuals
Organization: LaserMaster R&D, Minneapolis, MN  USA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 01:05:31 GMT

Yamaha Vision Owners:

While cleaning the garage last week I found the owners manual
and a Hines(sp) Shop Manual.  The owners manual I had lost years
ago and sold the bike without it.  After I found it, I tried to get
ahole of the new owner, but to no avail. The Shop manual was a dup,
I ordered one from Motorbooks and got two.  They are need a good
home; the first person to Email me (and send a *BIG* SASE with
lots of postage) can have them for free.


Clay Babcock  clayb@county.lmt.mn.org
1982 Seca Turbo
Dreams of K100RS
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Cold weather gear for the poor?
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:25:25 GMT

pooder@msus1.msus.edu writes:
>In article <j403662@pro-haven.cts.com>, shadow@pro-haven.cts.com (Blaine Hufnagle) writes:

>> Well, now that cold weather has reared its ugly head, the subject sez it all.

>One word covers it all: Layers. 

I think one more word might help. Windproofing. If the outer layer
blocks the wind, then the inner layers will keep you much warmer. Try
something nylon, or a rainsuit, instead of cotton/levis.

>Before I had the sense to stop and warm up I what having really strange 
>hallucinations - not good.1SMw#u1b/wxmW7[F#

Having a flashback? :-)
-- 
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580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Subject: Re: Depth perception
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 23:41:37 GMT

In article <23764@sybase.sybase.com> leighann@spaghetti.sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey) writes:
>In article <dbc-200992152449@b62003.student.cwru.edu>, dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson) writes:
>|> What, am I the only person who reads this group with two working eyes??
>|> 
>
>20/20 both eyes, here.  No cavities either... ;-)
>
>	- Leigh Ann

How about tattoos?

Ride Free,

Bill

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From: thorick@sybase.com (Thorick Chow)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What to do with stupid cagers
Keywords: Harly, big knife
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:24:23 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <19ommrINNpac@bigboote.WPI.EDU> rtaraz@bernoulli.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes:
>........................................  So he followed the dink (idiot) 
>till he pulled in to a parking lot.  he go of his bike and walked toward him. 
>As the cager was trying to appologize, he pulled his 8 inch knife (I saw it,
>it was big) and put it on the guys throat. 
>            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Anyway, as the said, the cager will watch for bikers from now on! 
>I guess a knife can come in handy every now and then.
>
>

sorry, I don't like jail...  plus that kind of behaviour could
result in Bad Carma  :-)

-t.c.

 


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From: carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Newbie needs advice
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:31:14 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:

>Datasbuild (datasbld@bnr.ca) wrote:
>:  I am still suffering the after shock of trying out Kellogg's
>: Pop-Tarts which my children _insisted_ I purchase for them.  They were truly 
>: gross!
 
>   Nick, do you get the frosted or unfrosted Pop-Tarts?  I find the only
>ones that are tolerable to me are the unfrosted brown sugar and cinnamon
>variety.  The frosting is truly gross, but even here in the States it is
>difficult to find them without it.

Hey!  Knock off the ragging on Pop-Tarts, Breakfast of Denizens.

American-assembled, traditional family values.  At least they were
traditional in MY family; we'd often eat them on the school bus, and I
now often eat them at my desk when I get up late for work.

"Chocolate" frosted w/sprinkles are my favorite.

I love Pop-Tarts (tm)
Pop-Tarts (tm) are my friends.
--
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 ISC-Bunker Ramo / Spokane, WA   |    -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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 Mail: carlp@frigg.isc-br.com    |  My employer accepts no responsibility...
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Enough bullshit!  Here's some REAL news...
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:33:42 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <1ai6ifINN4sa@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick) writes:
> 	its fun!!! ;) ;) (first off nobody looks like i expected them to
> 	look)... try for example bob pasker with his mazda and suit ;)
> 	(i have a personal score to settle with pasker - hence the
> 	useful hint ;) and then read his flames! that is you, isnt it
> 	pasker???

the 10 blue & gray suits have been mothballed since i stopped consulting on
wall st.  the mazda is in the garage, under a cloth, and blocked from the exit
by the four motorcycles (which were almost 5, but the guzzi v50ii which i
looked at last night was too small, frame-wise, for me.) 

chuch rogers stole that picture from me when he was in town about 18 months
ago.  he hid it after we had plied him with delicious food and beverages, and
took him down to the garage to see bikes what real motorcycles look like,
excepting the virago which has a different home. (the virago, btw, makes a
*good bike* for a newbie wife rider who has been so kind as to buy an unnamed
person numerous motorcycles but refuses in return to allow her to ride his,
lest he miss out on en route backrubs) i'm glad to get rid of the picture and
its nice to know that i am haunting you from afar, newbie scum. 

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
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From: ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley riders are JAGOFFS!!
Date: 6 Oct 1992 21:15:32 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In a previous article, delilah@next18pg2.wam.umd.edu (Romeo DeVerona) said:
:- egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
:- 
:- Why do people ride Harleys?
:- 

	because they like to ride 'em?


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Subject: Re: Honda 500 GP 'Droner' motor question
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:46:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> I thought this uneven power pulses stuff is what Yamaha had for years
-> and Honda decided to forgo in their search for max power. Did Doohan
-> ride the standard firing Honda this season or is this new firing
-> order

 The uneven pulses of the HD XR750 were supposedly responsible for its
great success on dirt tracks.   The old 750 Honda fours and bored-out
Triumphs seldom came close.

 In a truly bizarre twist of fate, one of the first few motors to pose a
serious threat to the XRs was the Kawasaki H2 - a three cylinder two
stroke.  I have a photo somewhere of an H2 in a sprint chassis, coming
around a turn ahead of a pack of Harleys.  The big Kaw engine wasn't
quite two feet wide and had enormous expansion chambers kinda stuck on
all over the place.  Looked maximally weird compared to the XRs.

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