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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 12:53:00 CST
From:         ARIOCH <TT580957@PUCAL.BITNET>
Subject: FTP help ,,,, one more time :-) hopefully last :-)

Ok, sorry to bother you all again, I sent the letter FTP'ing, HELP, i got
many responses (thank you) but nothing still works, so i'm enclosing exactly
what i did, and what happened, maybe somebody will recognize the problem, if
they've had it before.

as i don't have an internet connection i'm using BITFTP@PUCC

this is the mail i sent to bitftp

FTP wuarchive.wustl.edu NETDATA
USER anonymous
BINARY
CD /mirrors/msdos/graphics
GET eedlogic.zip     "since frain172 is so HUGE, i chose a smaller file to
QUIT                  'practice' with :-)"

after getting the message that i recieved the file i typed

BTW, at this point i was on my pc, using a modem to connect to VAX account

receive/binary  "on my vax this takes you to receive directory"
copy eedlogic.zip   "copies program to working directory"

KERMIT32   "takes you to kermit prompt
SET FILE TYPE BINARY
GET eedlogic.zip


logoff, exit to DOS   "if it makes a difference i'm using Procomm modem software

D:/ pkunzip eedlogic

       PKUNZIP (R)  FAST! Extract Utility version 1.1  03-15-90
       Copr. 1989-1990  PKWARE Inc.  All Rights Reserved Pkunzip/h for help
       PKUNZIP REG. U.S. Pat and TM.  Off.

       Searching ZIP:  eedlogic.zip
       PKUNZIP:  Warning!  eedlogic.zip  -error in ZIP use PKZipFix
       PKUNZIP:  No file(s) found


ok, fine, i'll follow the directions


D:/ PKZIPFIX eedlogic

      PKZIPFIX (tm)  ZIP recovery utility version 1.1 03-15-90
      copy right 1989-1990 PKWARE inc.  all rights reserved

      Scanning:  eedlogic.zip
      Reconstructing ZIP directory
      Writing: PKFIXED.ZIP
      No File(s) found to fix.  File is most likely not a ZIP file


that's the whole story,  any ideas on the matter??????


BTW: i've also tried exe files, they don't work
     BUT every TEXT file i've FTP'd (uncompressed) works just fine ?????????????




PS. in responce to Ben Ricker,  a local BBS I use, has a zip file which
    claims to compress GIF files,  if i ever figure out how to send
    files over this d*mn VAX i'll send you a copy, Else if nobody else
    has a file, i'll gladly send to you from my PC, if you don't mind
    long distance phone bill on your modem,,,,let me know,,
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:51:22 GMT
From:         Ken Tsang <smt@DCS.WARWICK.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Image Compression.
              "ROSANE@BRUFRGS.EARN" at Dec 11, 92 10:26 am

>
>
>I am interested about image compression in general and using fractal.
>Please send such information in email to rosane@vortex.ufrgs.br.
>Thanks in advance.
>
I am interested as well and would like to share any info...

cheers
/**********************************************************************/
/*S M, Kenneth TSANG    **Comp Sci, U of Warwick, Coventry CV4 7AL, UK*/
/*smt@dcs.warwick.ac.uk ***********************************************/
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 14:14:32 -0600
From:         "Sundar..." <SR0101@TNTECH.BITNET>
Subject: Re: FTP help ,,,, one more time :-) hopefully last :-)

>From: ARIOCH <TT580957@PUCAL.BITNET>

>FTP wuarchive.wustl.edu NETDATA
>USER anonymous
>BINARY
>CD /mirrors/msdos/graphics
>GET eedlogic.zip     "since frain172 is so HUGE, i chose a smaller file to
>QUIT                  'practice' with :-)"

Try uuencode inplace of netdata. Then you will receive the file as
uuencoded file. If it comes in pieces, put them together using an
editor. You can then transfer the file to yr pc using kermit as text file
and on the pc end run uudecode and unzip the resulting zip file. For
uudecode, check in wuarchive.wustl.edu under the starters directory under
msdos.
Hope this helps you,

Sundar.R
Tenn Tech University
Cookeville, TN.
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:30:22 -0400
From:         "John M. Beaubrun" <BEAUBRUN@BARRYU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Call for Participation: Atlanta 93 DECUS Symposium, June 5-11

I would like to just add my support on the subject of providing computers
and network connections to the lecture rooms for EDUSIG sessions. As I
pointed out at DECUS in Las Vegas, we are all used to teaching with the
use of the technology and we come to DECUS to share and learn. I think that
initially it will be seen as too expensive to provide computers and network
connections to all rooms, but we can start with a limited set of rooms. I
am sure when they first provided overhead projectors it was considered a
great expense. Consider looking at the Educom and CAUSE meetings as a model
where they provide internet access throughout the convention center and
microcomputers with projectors in the lecture rooms. Digital could use
this as an opportunity to showcase some of their desktop equipment, just
as Apple does at Educom.

John

John Beaubrun
Barry University
Miami Florida
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Subject: Re: Call for Participation: Atlanta 93 DECUS Symposium, June 5-11
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:17:52 GMT
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I hear you... and thank you very much for your feedback.  I will
persue what options we have available - no promises, yet - but I
will try my best to get at least a phone line to the EDUSIG
session room so we can at least make a dialout connection.

However, I would also Iike to reiterate my original request for
speakers for the Atlanta symposium.  If you would like to see
some new and exciting sessions presented at the symposium - help
me make it happen by volunteering to present, encouraging a
colleague to give a session or suggesting a topic or speaker that
I might followup.

And please continue to to make suggestions to improve the quality
of the symposium that EDUSIG and DECUS presents.

Thanks,
Debbi Newkirk
EDUSIG Symposia Committee Representative
newkirk@decus.org
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:59:49 -0400
From:         NEWKIRK@DECUS.ORG
Subject:      Call for Participation: Atlanta 93 DECUS Symposium, June 5-11

We've just finished the Las Vegas symposium and we are already working
on the symposium for Atlanta.  If you plan on attending and would like
to present a session, please forward an abstract to me so that I can
submit the session to be scheduled.  Suggestions for topics of interest
include (but are not limited to) the following:

        - CampusWide Information Systems
        - Sessions on using the Internet
        - 'Train the Trainer' sessions
        - System management in a multi-vendor environment
        - Unix support and system management on campus
        - Centralized support in a decentralized environment
        - Strategic Planning issues
        - Instructional software
        - TQM on campus
        - Library Information Systems
        - Networking strategies
        - Campus computer policies/procedures


The deadline for submissions is Dec 28, but I'll need to have it before
then to get it entered.  Your participation is what makes the symposium
experience a success, so consider sharing with others something about your
institution and what you do.

Thanks,
Debbi Newkirk
EDUSIG Symposia Committee Representative

newkirk@decus.org
newkirk@arizona.edu
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:37:00 EST
From:         SYSTEM@CRNLNS.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Call for Participation: Atlanta 93 DECUS Symposium, June 5-11

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Gentle folk,

Please add my vote in favor of making Internet connections available
for at least some conference sessions. We have found real-time connections
to be invaluable for some types of physics presentations.

Does anyone know the actual reasons why network connections have been
unavailable in the conference rooms? My guess would be that the cost of
temporarily wiring pre-existing rooms has been considered prohibitive.

This is, of course, exactly the problem that wireless networking technology
is supposed to solve.

Selden E. Ball, Jr.
(Wilson Lab's network and system manager)

Cornell University                 Voice: +1-607-255-0688
Laboratory of Nuclear Studies        FAX: +1-607-255-8062
Wilson Synchrotron Lab            BITNET: SYSTEM@CRNLNS
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Subject:      RE: Call for Participation: Atlanta 93 DECUS Symposium, June 5-11

Debbie,
  There will certainly be staff from Academic Computing and User Services
attending DECUS in Atlanta. We would be happy to do a presentation on what we
are doing with CWIS or Internet access, however, I have a concern with DECUS.
I did a presentation in Las Vegas on Pathworks networking the RIT campus. I
asked for internet access (actually assuming the answer would be NO!). It was
NO! I then asked for a phone connection, not thinking that there would be any
question about getting a phone line. The answer was NO!
  DECUS is wondering why attendance is dropping. I think computer
professionals are getting bored going to sessions seeing overheads about
software "architectures" and this API talks to this API,etc,etc,etc,etc,
etc,etc, and so forth. If computers are so wonderful and useful, why don't we
ever use one to do a live presentation? By that I don't mean an electronic
slide show vs an overhead transparency slide show, I mean do the activity
live!! In my session I faked a live environment by doing some screen recorder
session on my Mac which I could then play back like a VCR session.
  I had a chat with Jim Purser at the suite on Thursday and he indicated that
EDUSIG might get a live internet link in the Campground. However, Jim pointed
out that sessions can't be scheduled in a campground, only clinics. I think we
need a whole bunch of "clinics" that just happen to take the form of a content
specialist and a number of interested attendees. I also think that this might
foster a more interactive peer learning environment which is what we are all
about, I believe.
  I throw this out on the listserver to stimulate and little thought,
discussion and feedback on whether are looking for the same environmental
change.

                                   - Newt-

Newton J. Munson
Associate Director of Academic Computing
  and User Services
Rochester Institute of Technology
One Lomb Memorial Drive
Rochester, NY  14623-0887
internet: NJMACC@ISC.RIT.EDU
bitnet:   NJMACC@RITVAX
phone:    (716) 475-2809
fax:      (716) 475-5306
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:18:48 -0500
From:         "Don Fuhr, Director of Computer Services" <FUHR@TUSK.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Call for Participation: Atlanta 93 DECUS Symposium, June 5-11

I can't speak directly for the Symposium Committee; therefore, my comments may
not apply directly to Symposium sessions.  I can, however, speak for our
experience in Seminars.  We have not attempted to provide Internet access
except by means of a phone line in a seminar room.  The speaker (Jim Gerland)
made his own arrangements for access by way of a local phone call, calling in
some favors. I'd judge that the problem with providing phone and/or Internet
access for Symposium sessions would be deciding what rooms require the
connections and for how long.  Wiring all (or maybe even some, depending on
the city) rooms would be prohibitively expensive.

I would think that what you're asking for could be done, at least on a limited
basis, if there was a champion who would work with the Symposium Committee on
the technical and logistical details.  I'd suggest Earl Cory or Glenn Dollar
as initial contacts.

Don Fuhr
DECUS U.S. Chapter Seminars Chair
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Subject: request for data on test ban, CFE
From: gerald@vms.huji.ac.il (GERALD STEINBERG)
Date: 12 Dec 1992 22:20 IDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Can anyone tell me what the current status of the Comprehensive
Test Ban is?  What has happened since the ratification of the
Threshold Test Ban Treaty in 1990?

Also, when was the Conventional Forces Europe (CFE) Treaty
signed?  Is there an on-line source for the text or a summary?

Thanks,

Gerald Steinberg  (gerald@hujivms.bitnet)



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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:18:49 EST
From:         IQM109@URIACC.URI.EDU
Subject:      Re: Amiga Startup - repost
              15 Dec 1992 09:51:32 UT from <TGJ@UKHOUO.PRIME.COM>

please tell me some popular ftp sites where i can get some cool games and some
killer gifs. I have an amiga and i also want to know how to get into ftp sites
without using just anonymous s but the password style also. Please help need to
 know ftp sites and passwords.
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From: cs902125@ariel.yorku.ca (SHUK C YIP)
Subject: Re: HighSpeedPascal
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 15:37:52 GMT

In article <B11B77E4AEFF000358@snypotva.bitnet> "The Search for Computing Power, 68060 : the legend live on!" <FRASER50@SNYPOTVA.BITNET> writes:
>          When I load up a program source file in turbo pascal on an  I*M
> that I wrote with HSPascal, the program is all one line with a "J" in the
>place where i puched return.
>  I know this is due to the difference in EOLN characters on the Amiga and
>I*M ($10 on the amiga , a linefeed and $13 $10 on the I*M , a carrage return
>with a linefeed). Is there anything the can be done? My roommate was using
>HSPascal on my A500 to do his pascal, he has to hand his disks in. His
>proffessor accepted it once but would not the second time and he had to
>retype the whole thing. He was using mine because it's  in the room and a lack
>of I*M on the M*C infested campus.
>

If you have Dos2Dos, you can use the text converted function to
transform the IBM text to Amiga standard text format. Also, I know there
are some PD software will do this thing for you.
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From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re:      EYUP OZTURK
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 06:20:12 GMT

In article <I-AMIGA%92121708433440@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU> doleckma <DOLECKMA@SNYALFVA.BITNET> writes:
>EYUP OZTURK, PLEASE READ THIS!!!
>
>I HAVE ASKED PRIVATELY AND NOW TWICE VIA THIS LIST.  PLEASE STOP POSTING IN
>ALL CAPS!!!  ESPECIALLY IF YOU WANT ANYONE TO READ YOUR POSTS!!!  THANK YOU!!!
>
>And now back to the regular discussions...
>
>Mark Dolecki    doleckma@snyalfva       Computer Specialist - Alfred Tech
>                doleckma@snyalfva.cc.alfredtech.edu

   Eyup, are you using VLT ? If you are running a TTY emulator you will
only get all-caps. A vt100 emulator such as vlt allows full upper and
lower case letters. I use Vltjr on my 512 Kb system, just don't have
'loadwb' as part of your startup-sequence and you will have more than
enough free ram.

      Just a guess, but maybe he can't use lower case,and yes I have 
killed enough of his upper case letter posts just like tyhe rest of us.

      JimP.

    Happy Holidays all !

-- 
         Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science USM 
             jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
                   Video. Cher: Love and Understanding.
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From: m92mmy@tdb.uu.se (Mattias Myrberg)
Subject: Re: Silly Questions
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
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n article 10213 Magnus Wissler writes:

>Because the HD floppy wouldn't fit in the 1200's case, or so I heard
>recently...

I heard that too.Sounds like a lousy joke to me.

>Ok, so FAST RAM gives you approx. a 75% speedup, but
>let's face it, the 68020, combined with 32-bit chip access to memory gives
>you enough speed increase for most games except perhaps *REAL* CPU-intensive
>games like Civilization and flight sims/3D games. Besides, RAM expansions
>probably won't be very expensive for the 1200.

I'd say it gives enough speed for the A500-type games, so that they won't
flicker(like they do on a A500 :).

Programs are supposed to be harddrive-installable these days,
so I'd say you could do with 1 meg chip, but on the other hand fastram is
more optional than chip. If we would have 1 Mb chip machines and 2 Mb chip
machines, it would be pretty much like the 1/2 vs 1 Meg market one/two years back.
So I think you're right after all. Guess, I'll pick up a PCMCIA-memory card
as soon as possible, I need that extra speed.

/Mattias

_______
Mattias Myrberg

m92mmy@bellatrix.tdb.uu.se

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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 10:31:51 PST
From:         Daniel Joseph Oak <jonin@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: AddTools Help :)
              "CAMACHO@ECSUC.CTSTATEU.EDU" at Dec 16, 92 9:59 am

>
> Ok, I also forgot to mention that I placed it in my user-startup
> also! I tried both, and it still didn't work... Where should I put the
> program Addtools?
> Carlos
>

Well my second suggestion would be to try dropping it in the wbstartup
directory (if you have 2.x or higher)  this will launch every time you
startup workbench then.  If your not 2.x or higher yet - I would strongly
suggest upgrading.  It's worth it.

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From:         John Rosander <jrosande@TR1099.TO.FORD.COM>
Subject:      Joining general discussions about amiga

How do I join the general discussions about the amiga mail news?
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:55:37 CST
From:         John - no my name is not snuggles - Fusco
              <JFUSCO@IATS.AVLABS.MDC.COM>
Subject:      AGA question...

A friend of mine and I were wondering, are all video modes
available at all times with an AGA amiga (i.e., halfbrite and 4096
color HAM).  I thought I had read somewhere that it is necessary
to reboot in a certain configuration to use these modes.

Could someone clear this up.  Thanks.


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(Opinions expressed are solely those of the author.)
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:35:00 UT
From:         Terry Jeffery International Product Support Group
              <TGJ@UKHOUO.PRIME.COM>
Subject:      Ideas Req'd for next Startup file

Hi there All,

I'm starting to work on the next revision of the Startup File.

Are there any suggestions as to items for inclusion. Remember the file is
really for beginners to the network rather than advertising either CBM or
others products.

Maybe some of the newer people can put forward a few ideas.

Mail me direct - NOT THE LIST.

Regards

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From: tatulund@polaris.utu.fi (Tatu J. Lund)
Subject: re: 1MEG AGNUS
Organization: University of Turku
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>   Is it really hard to put a 1meg agnus chip into a 500? I have a VXL*30

    No it  isn't. It is rather easy in both rev 5 and rev 6 amigas. Rev6
machines actualy should have it allready, so I think you have rev 5 board.
Plug old angnus of and put new one in place. Test pin SHOULD NOT BE CONNECTED
and I don't remember the pin number, but it should be in schematics section
in manual. It is somwhere in upper row when looking your amiga like it usualy
is on your table.
    Next thinige is to get memory work as 1mb chip too. You should have inner
so called pseudo fast ram extension such as 512kb a501 board. Some 2mb or
4mb inner boards won't work. You need to solder pin 32 of gary to +5v through
1kilo ohm resistor. This if you have rev 5. board in rev 6 you need solder
JP7A to another way. Another jumper in both boards is between cpu and rom
(JP2) and it should be soldered to another position too.
    I did it that way and it works correctly (about one year ago). Some
Special ram boards might have a jumper or dip switch for 1mb chip ram.
In that case the modification on mother board is not needed. If you
connect test pin in Agnus you cannot use your amiga in PAL mode.

> accelerator has anyone had trouble with new agnus and this board? Please
> respond directly.

    I don't have any accelerator (I don't call mc010 an accelerator),
but I can't see any connection between those two things. Agnus don't
address cpu or something like that, so there should not be any problem.






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