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From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: Crystal
Date: 14 Aug 92 01:42:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: glia.crystal.713756527
Organization: University of Washington

In <s5LgPB1w165w@pdaxs.techbook.com> jthompso@pdaxs.techbook.com (Ambassador) writes:


>        I think you have some wires crossed Crystal.  You tell me that 
>I should not "preach" my beliefs on the personal thread, but then you 
>turn right around and do the same.  Don't say it's not preaching cause it 
>is, it's just not the same as mine.  If I were to say the Abortion is 
>great and that I encourage it, That would be preaching also, but since 
>it's not against it nobody would fight me.  Thant is exactly what is 
>happening here.  I only left a message that was personal to the one that 
>was interested.  This Keith guy did the same.  Your scared.  Your scared 
>of the truth.  I know you wont admit it, but their is something that your 
>so scared of - you have to fight it until the end.  Don't you see what is 
>happening to you.  Open your eyes and you'll see a little truth.  

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"Preaching" is the FORCING of one's views on another, repeatedly attempting
to drum something into someone that they don't care to listen to...

Stating an OPINION is *NOT* preaching.

I state my opinions. 
Nowhere have I preached.

Nowhere have I suggested that one not believe in what they believe in. I
simply stated that I don't believe and I stated why with 2 simple quotations.s.
That is not preaching.
That is stating an opinion.

Crystal
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: ad
Date: 15 Aug 92 03:52:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: glia.crystal.713850771
Organization: University of Washington

In <1992Aug14.160422.18991@u.washington.edu> monaghan@carson.u.washington.edu (Tracy Monaghan) writes:

>In article <crystal.713679082@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"sold out to Jesus"???
>>
>>You want a NUN?!?!?!
>>
>>Kinky...
>>
>>
>Just so long as you don't get into the habit :)

*sounds of the "Vatican Rag" playing in the background*
From: johnb@stat.orst.edu (John Bainbridge)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: arrgggggggg!!!
Date: 19 Aug 92 05:33:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: talon.1992Aug19.053311.20614
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Oregon State University - Statistics Dept
Originator: johnb@yoko

Optimistic existential hedonistic taoist male seeks 
similar minded female for frolics in the woods.
ps. bible thumpers go home. ;)

John
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From: dcutter@oregon.uoregon.edu (dann cutter)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals,alt.personals.ads
Subject: Learned...
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:42:59 GMT
Organization: Stellar Enterprises

I was born white... no problems with that. I was born male... also kinda am
happy with this (stupid feet would look ugly on a woman). Grew up an
American. Loved apple pie, football all that stuff. Then went to HS. Real
world had obviously not existed for me, cause of where I lived. 
	Then I learned hate. People would sit in certain areas only in the
Cafeteria so as not to be near others. But this cause me to withdraw, and I
hid by my computer - because nobody with a brain I thought could be like
this.
	Went to college last year. Saw equally talented black friends get turned
down because of color. I saw untalented blacks with drug money find a new
market. The same goes for the other ethnic groups. And I started thinking,
what about the whites. And I saw them look down upon all the others... hide
behind there money or there friends. I saw them deal the same drugs - and I
wondered where the difference in color was. Then a friend told me she was
gay, and I learned there was a lot more than color out there. I saw blacks
I saw women I saw gays... and then in an effort to revolt I saw people. I
only saw poeple... and I thought I was okay now... I thought I was away
from hate.
	But now I know. Everyday I struggle to change what has been taught inside
me since I was born. Every day I try to be a real person, who does not
hate. I try...
	But now I see the world around me turning. Now I see groups kill and hurt
and deny others basic human rights because they can't see thereselves hate.

I am myself and only myself, and every day I fight myself. I am a single
white male... and I am seeking humanity... NOSCI TE!

_______________________________________________________________
Dann Cutter  Stellar Enterprises* /
dcutter@oregon.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
From: philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara)
Subject: Re: follow-up
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:59:15 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Aug17.004659.23323@nwnexus.WA.COM> edm@halcyon.com (Ed Morin) writes:
>
>And just to add another thought, Jesus "shoved" his teaching down the throats
>of the Pharisees and high priests because they were wrong in what they were
>teaching and misusing the temple of God.  He pulled no punches in that regard.
>He also dealt with anybody who would claim they "had the truth" and was trying
>to deceive folks with their teaching in the same way.

      Hmmm... sounds like he dealt with people who were exactly
like the Christians of today - a particularly vocal majority who were
absolutely convinced that they "had the truth."  Interesting, don't
you think?


>  You can't claim that
>He was just a nice guy and offended nobody and therfore anybody that follows
>Him should do likewise.  We are called to share the good news that you can be
>reconciled to God through what he did for you and not keep our mouths shut.

     May I have permission to claim that you have become the very
thing that your messiah despised?

					-Phil

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Note:  Microsoft doesn't even _know_ that these are my opinions. So there.
From: jswthomp@milton.u.washington.edu (James Thompson)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: My ad!
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:51:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug12.165109.21162
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <sqZcPB3w165w@pdaxs.techbook.com> jthompso@pdaxs.techbook.com (Ambassador) writes:
>
>        Why such a long thread!!!

Because you are rude and you insult everyone who doesn't share your beliefs.

>I'm a SWM seeking GWM who wants to 
>change the life they live.  I love living a hetrosexual life and whould 
>like to meet others that have the same interests but don't know how.  If 
>you would like to talk - send me a message E-mail.  
>
>        (Is that better....  Kids..)
>

Yes, that's better.  But who are you calling kids now?


Jim Thompson (jswthomp@u.washington.edu)
From: john@n7kbt.rain.com (John Opalko)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: Hurt
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:34:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: n7kbt.4073
Organization: Two strange people in Forest Grove, OR

In article <u17TPB3w165w@pdaxs.techbook.com> jthompso@pdaxs.techbook.com (Ambassador) writes:
>
>        I hurt for all of you.  I really do.

Thank you for sharing.

-- 
John Opalko

john@n7kbt.rain.com  -or-  wi.5327@wizvax.methuen.ma.us
From: major@shuksan.boeing.com (Mike Schmitt)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: goodbye all
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:01:51 GMT
Organization: The Boeing Co., MMST, Seattle, Wa.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

-- 
Mike Schmitt - Disclaimer: These opinions are not my employer's.  My opinions 
are protected by the 1st Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of
America.  If you don't like it - get out of my country.   
"Professionals are predictable, it's the amateurs that are dangerous."
From: jthompso@pdaxs.techbook.com (Ambassador)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Crystal
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:18:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdaxs.s5LgPB1w165w
Organization: Portland Public Access sponsored by TECHbooks Bookstore


        I think you have some wires crossed Crystal.  You tell me that 
I should not "preach" my beliefs on the personal thread, but then you 
turn right around and do the same.  Don't say it's not preaching cause it 
is, it's just not the same as mine.  If I were to say the Abortion is 
great and that I encourage it, That would be preaching also, but since 
it's not against it nobody would fight me.  Thant is exactly what is 
happening here.  I only left a message that was personal to the one that 
was interested.  This Keith guy did the same.  Your scared.  Your scared 
of the truth.  I know you wont admit it, but their is something that your 
so scared of - you have to fight it until the end.  Don't you see what is 
happening to you.  Open your eyes and you'll see a little truth.  

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From: reidyj@CS.ORST.EDU (Jay Reidy)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: Hurt
Date: 22 Aug 92 01:58:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Aug22.015820.10748
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Oregon State University

In article <1992Aug21.164959.14893@u.washington.edu> jswthomp@milton.u.washington.edu (James Thompson) writes:
>In article <u17TPB3w165w@pdaxs.techbook.com> jthompso@pdaxs.techbook.com (Ambassador) writes:
>>
>>        I hurt for all of you.  I really do.
>>
          Good!
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From: billmcc@seanews.akita.com (Bill McCormick)
Subject: Re: ad
Organization: SEANEWS - Seattle Public Access News & Mail
Distribution: pnw
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:30:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.024454.2102@leela.cs.orst.edu> hollowr@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (R. Holloway) writes:
>It has been my experience & training that humor is predicate to prejudice,
>discrimination & racism.  Racial, ethnic, religious intolerence is abhorant
>to me any disguise.  What matters are my perceptions & not yours or crystal's
>intentions.  That's it in a nutshell.  My intolerence is the same as though
>she were to respond to a african american's post by calling him or her a
>nigger. One person's meat is another's poison.  C'est la vie.

You don't get out much, do you?  It must be pretty difficult to handle
life with such obvious humor-impairment.

You experience and training are wrong.  Humor is actually part of the
healing process.

Stay out of comedy clubs if you're so easily offended.

Bill
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From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: ad
Date: 14 Aug 92 01:28:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: glia.crystal.713755721
Distribution: pnw
Organization: University of Washington

In <1992Aug13.125935.24650@cadreor.cadre.com> neil@cadreor.cadre.com (Neil W. Van Dyke) writes:

>hollowr@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (R. Holloway) writes:
>>In article <crystal.713679082@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>>>In <1aiDPB2w165w@pdaxs.techbook.com> keith@pdaxs.techbook.com (Keith) writes:

>>>> WANTED:  just for curiosity's sake, I would like to hear from you if you 
>>>>are a young girl, age 19-20, who is sold out for Jesus.  [...]

>>>"sold out to Jesus"???
>>>
>>>You want a NUN?!?!?!
>>>
>>>Kinky...

>>IHMO, this is a cheap shot.  This person, BELIEVES, IN WHAT HE/SHE POSTED IN
>>an ad.  Crystal, you've betrayed the spirit of this group.  You, at worst, are
>>sexist, racist, & religiously prejudice.  This person, honestly expressesed,
>>a preference defining his/her likes/dislikes, yet you've focused upon "sold on
>>Jesus."  Why is this?  [...]
>[25 more lines of flame from R. Holloway deleted.]

>I think Crystal was pretty-much joking.  After a period of annoying postings
>of gay-bashing, we could use some levity and playfulness.  Keith shouldn't feel
>offended.  Take it easy.

>Neil

>-- 
>Neil W. Van Dyke <> neil@cadre.com <> +1 503 690 1586 <> Fax: +1 503 690 1320
>"My employer disclaims that I even work for them, much less speak for them."


Thank you, Neil!

Yes, it was a joke...a play on the phrase that I quoted.  I saw it as quite
ambiguous and likely not at all what he intended to say.  My favorite form
of humor is wordplay and I *adore* puns and double entendre (those who
suffered through the p-nut butter thread may have noticed this...:> )

I will not even bother to address R. Holloway, as he has made assumptions
based on a misinterpretation.  I do not get into religious arguments. I
stated my views ONCE, quite simply and intend to leave it at that.

However...if someone tosses out a straight line...I just may pounce on it
with an alternative *must likely ridiculous* interpretation that has abso       absolutely no correlation to my own view, opinions or lifestyle.

Humor for humor's sake...

Crystal
  ;>

"I enjoy life as a jester"  --Jimmy Buffett
From: hollowr@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (R. Holloway)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: ad
Summary: Bullshit
Date: 13 Aug 92 09:46:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: leela.1992Aug13.094657.14665
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

In article <crystal.713679082@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>In <1aiDPB2w165w@pdaxs.techbook.com> keith@pdaxs.techbook.com (Keith) writes:
>
>
>> WANTED:  just for curiosity's sake, I would like to hear from you if you 
>>are a young girl, age 19-20, who is sold out for Jesus.  I haven't seen 
>>many out there in my own short twenty years of existance, and I would 
>>like to hear from you if you really, truly love the Lord.  I'm not 
>>exactly interested in a relationship, but it would at least be nice to 
>>establish some sort of friendship.  Do you read?  Please do not respond 
>>unless completely serious.  Write Keith through E-mail.
>
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>
>
>"sold out to Jesus"???
>
>You want a NUN?!?!?!
>
>Kinky...

IHMO, this is a cheap shot.  This person, BELIEVES, IN WHAT HE/SHE POSTED IN
an ad.  Crystal, you've betrayed the spirit of this group.  You, at worst, are
sexist, racist, & religiously prejudice.  This person, honestly expressesed,
a preference defining his/her likes/dislikes, yet you've focused upon "sold on
Jesus."  Why is this?  This persons is not your "cup of tea."  So why pick on
him/her?  He/she desires to correspond with persons of like pursuasion.  Why
are you so sanctimonious that you feel that your are superior to him/her?  He/
she did not ask for a nun & you are making an "ad personium" or "ad homineum"
fallacy on his/her charcter by removing the issue from his/her post to your
own personal feeling & attacking him/her based upon your SUBJECTIVE attitude.

Straw-person argument?  Why?  What are you afraid of?  This person honestly
asked for something: why attack him/her for that honesty?  

Though it may not be politically correct, I laud his/her effort.  Rousseau 
said, "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your
right to say it."  (This may not be a direct quote, & if pressed, I'll pro-
vide the French & English quote.)

Are you racist, Crystal?  Do you still abuse your children?  These are in-
herently unfair questions, but equally valid.

Flame away, I could give a rip.  GAF!  You are racist, religiously intollerent &
at least intolerent of others who differ from your politically correct paradigm.

Racism, intolerence & bigotry, in any form, no matter how mild or well con-
cealed loathing of his/her beliefs as they differ from yours.  Is this not
a form of bigotry?

This is submitted as an opinion & not fact.  Flame away.
From: reidyj@mist.CS.ORST.EDU (Jay Reidy)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: Hi again.
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:42:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Aug14.194229.6057
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.


 don't understand what's going on!  Arguments about gays and jesus freaks,
 hmmmmmm.  do they belong on this bbs or not?

 Well, sure.  As long, (my opinion only) as they are doing stuff that the
 personals file ought to be... a place to meet, talk with, discuss etc.
 people with the same point of view.

 I do get tired of having to read all this crap about how Jesus can save
 gays.  Wait a minute, if we go for the idea that God made a ll people in
 her image, then gays and non-Christians and all the reaast of us are ok
 too.

 As someone said, if I see a G*N seeks ISO, I don't read it... well, maybe
 I do, but that's not the point.  The point is that what people are getting
 tired of is self centered egotistical, self appointed evangelists who are
 so darned intolerant of other life sytles.

 As the AA people say, "Easy Does It."

 I actually had one of these ass holes tell me I was destined to burn in
 hell because I am a Catholic.  I can just imagine what y Jewish friends
 have to put up with.
 .
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From: pnwp-146@onion.rain.com
Subject: favorite limerick
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Distribution: pnw
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:15:33 GMT

Sorry I can't attribute this, I ran across it years ago and am posting
from memory.  Hope y'all find its subject matter in harmony with all the
other stimulating matter in this group.

          There was a young fellow named Bland
          Who thought self-stimulation was grand.
               But he viewed with distaste
               The gelatinous paste
          That it left in the palm of his hand.

And hey, as far as I'm concerned, the posting of limericks here
could go Onan on.


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From: jthompso@pdaxs.techbook.com (Ambassador)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Hurt
Date: 21 Aug 92 03:18:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdaxs.u17TPB3w165w
Organization: Portland Public Access sponsored by TECHbooks Bookstore


        I hurt for all of you.  I really do.

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From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: goodbye all
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:42:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: glia.crystal.714242529
Organization: University of Washington

In <2274@shuksan.boeing.com> major@shuksan.boeing.com (Mike Schmitt) writes:

>S. A. Nelson writes:

>: >	Hi. I'm a 21 year old, attractive female math student at the UW, 
>: > ............group," here's your answer...YOU'VE CHASED THEM ALL AWAY.
>: 
>: Crystal:
>:    B*I*N*G*O!!!


> Mike Schmitt:
  
>  Shoot!  One more space to fill on my card and *I* would have had the 
>  B*I*N*G*O!!!   All I needed was "Free Space".  I never win anything.

There are *NO* free parking spaces!  So you'll NEVER win...(unless you
play Monopoly)


>  
>  
>-- 
>Mike Schmitt - Disclaimer: These opinions are not my employer's.  My opinions 
>are protected by the 1st Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of
>America.  If you don't like it - get out of my country.   
>"Professionals are predictable, it's the amateurs that are dangerous."
From: monaghan@carson.u.washington.edu (Tracy Monaghan)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: Crystal
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:07:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug14.160745.19091
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Aug14.025637.2214@leela.cs.orst.edu> hollowr@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (R. Holloway) writes:
>In article <crystal.713756527@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>>In <s5LgPB1w165w@pdaxs.techbook.com> jthompso@pdaxs.techbook.com (Ambassador) writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>"Preaching" is the FORCING of one's views on another, repeatedly attempting
>>to drum something into someone that they don't care to listen to...
>>
>>Stating an OPINION is *NOT* preaching.
>>
>
>Crystal:
>
>Then why do you ridicule someone else?  Why did you feel compelled to "poke
>fun" at another?  If you didn't care for what he wrote, why not just put it
>in you Kill file?  Your opinion is like assholes, everyone's got one, but
>few really want to become intimately aware of it.
>
>Warm regards,
Humor is meant to be shared.
Preaching is hopefully avoided, at worst must be endured.

Lighten up!
From: reidyj@mist.CS.ORST.EDU (Jay Reidy)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: ad
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:46:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Aug14.194644.6177
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

In article <1992Aug13.114815.5093@gibdo.engr.washington.edu> slh@gibdo.engr.washington.edu writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.072117.20849@cadreor.cadre.com> neil@cadreor.cadre.com (Neil W. Van Dyke) writes:
>[...]
>>
>>P.S., I wouldn't post this if I actually thought 20-year-old women read this
>>group.
>>
>	Yeah, but I would.      

        Yeah, me too. Snark, snark, snark
	.
From: monaghan@carson.u.washington.edu (Tracy Monaghan)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: ad
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:04:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug14.160422.18991
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <crystal.713679082@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>
>
>
>
>"sold out to Jesus"???
>
>You want a NUN?!?!?!
>
>Kinky...
>
>
Just so long as you don't get into the habit :)
From: garyb@lclark.edu (Gary Bliefernich)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: Sin and Corrruption
Keywords: why don't we do it in the road?
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:58:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Aug18.155812.13617
Followup-To: Tracy M.
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR


>From: monaghan@carson.u.washington.edu (Tracy Monaghan)
>Subject: Sin and Corrruption
>
>Exactly what is this SIN and CORRUPTION which is suppose to exist on this
>little piece of the net-world?
>
>Any suggestions?  What's your favorite sin and corruption?

Favorite sin:  Running out of whipped cream in the can, just when things 
		are getting interesting.

favorite corruption: Convincing a new lover that making love on a mountian
		     hillside on a beautiful summer day is completely natural

Yeah, those will do THIS time around./gb
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: goodbye all
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:36:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: glia.crystal.714062167
Organization: University of Washington

In <1992Aug17.054018.21759@u.washington.edu> sanelson@milton.u.washington.edu (S. A. Nelson) writes:

>	Hi. I'm a 21 year old, attractive female math student at the UW, 
>and I decided to read this group in the hopes of maybe finding cool people
>to spend time with. However, I have been saddened to discover that nearly
>everyone who posts does so with the sole intention of converting others
>and/or calling them intolerant if they happen to have an opinion. Well, if
>you were wondering "where are all the young women who might be reading this
>group," here's your answer...YOU'VE CHASED THEM ALL AWAY.



   B*I*N*G*O!!!
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