From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
Subject: Re: Hungarian? was Trumped-up charges against Suzanne. Demurrer #1.
Keywords: n~uk, n~uk, n~uk
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date:  3 Nov 92 15:57:05 GMT

In <1992Oct27.201502.17120@coopsol.com> gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga) writes:

><nyikos.719599511@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) said:
>><fT3b0qt@quack.sac.ca.us> pharvey@quack.sac.ca.us (Paul Harvey) writes:
>>>In article <nyikos.719174781@milo.math.scarolina.edu> 
>>>nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
>>>>In <BvvB49.Dv4@inews.Intel.COM> 
>>>pharvey@mipos3.intel.com (Paul Harvey) writes:
>>>>>In article <nyikos.718487778@milo.math.scarolina.edu> 
>>>>>nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:

>[a lot of drivel about how the Hungarian translation is somehow superior
>to the Hebrew translation of the OT is deleted]         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Gordon deleted no such statement by me, because I made no such statement.
I did not even claim that the Hungarian translation is superior to the
original Hebrew.  [What does Gordon mean, "the Hebrew translation"?  Does
he dispute Paul Harvey's Clue #3?  Good day!].

>>>WHAT! ARE YOU CLUELESS! CLUE#3: THE MOSAIC LAW WAS WRITTEN IN HEBREW! Do
>>>you have any idea what that means?
>>
>>It means you are repeating yourself.  Good thing Clue #4 is worded
>>differently, otherwise you'd really be boring us.

>IOW, he's clueless.

Ipse dixit.

>>>CLUE#4: THE MOSAIC LAW WAS ***NOT*** WRITTEN IN HUNGARY!!!!
>>
>>Clue #5: The Mosaic law was not written in English either, yet Gordon
>>	Storga is sure his translation, whose very identity he is 
>>	keeping a closely guarded secret (though he does indulge in a
>>	bit of misdirection about Cecil B. Demille) beats the pants
>>	off the translations I have given.  Ditto Steve Novak.

>A)	I am not keeping "my translation" a closely guarded secret.  I
>don't recall you ever asking before.

Too bad.  Here it is.  Do you want attributions, Greenwich Mean Time, 
the works?   I can provide them, but I did not want to make this post
longer than necessary:

#> Storga
# Nyikos

#>Strange how I found out the actual translation 20 years ago when engaged
#>in bible study for a few years, yet Suzanne (who has based her entire life
#>and the lives of her children on the teachings of the bible) hasn't
#>learned the proper translation and commandments.

#Okay, I guess I am showing my age when I said "decade or two".  Which
#translation did you discover this in?  And who gave you the authority
#to say that it is the "actual translation"?

>B)	You are being purposely deceitful. 

I would like to know what you are basing this slander.

> You know why I made the
>Demille reference.  You had stated that the "shall not murder"
>translation was a recent translation (20 yrs).  In Demille's "Ten
>Commandments" his "god" gives Moses the commandments and uses "shall
>not murder", not "shall not kill".  The TC was made far earlier than 20
>years ago, hence this translation is not "recent".

Late '50's release still qualifies as recent.  The TC is 30+ years old, not
40+ years old as you say below.

This is the first time I've seen you claim that this is what
the movie said.  Before, you mumbled [figure of speech, not to be taken
literally] something about this being the
best of your recollection.

>Heck, if you can use a *Hungarian* translation to try to prove what the
>real Hebrew meant, I can use a 40+ year old movie to prove mine. :-)

Are you implying that Cecil B. Demille is as much an authority as a team
of translators with special training?  As to "attempt to prove", my aims
were much more modest.  I used the Hungarian translation for illustrative
purposes, as a jumping-off point to the question of how it has been 
translated into other languages.  

>Gordon
>Pro-abortion, Pro-person, Pro-women's-rights and ex-boytoy of Susan, Muriel,
>Cathi, Nora, Jennifer, Sarah, Lynn, Diana (catwoman), Diana (Sorceress),
> Beth, 

I only recall Beth agreeing to the designation "ex-boyfriend".  Did she
also agree that you could call yourself her ex-boytoy?

Peter Ny.

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