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From: torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Carlos E. Torres)
Subject: Surveys
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:36:07 GMT

Since we seem to be doing surveys here...how about one survey of the top
5 episodes you most liked overall of the entire series, and the top episode
you liked from each doctor.
Here's mine:

Top 5 all time favorites (in no particular order):

1. Pyramids of Mars - Tom Baker
2. Warriors' Gate - Tom Baker
3. The Five Doctors - Peter Davidson
4. The Two Doctors - Colin Baker
5. Warriors of the Deep - Peter Davidson

(the last choice was a hard pick - but I chose number 5 b'cse I liked the 
ending)


Top episode of each individual doctor:

William Hartnell:	An Unearthly Child  	(a classic!)
Patrick Troughton:	The War Games		(again a classic!)
Jon Pertwee:		Death to the Daleks	(tough choice - none stand out)
Tom Baker:		Warriors' Gate		(barely wins over Pyramids...)
Peter Davidson:		The Five Doctors
Colin Baker:		The Two Doctors
Sylvestor McCoy:	<Never seen him yet>


Mystic
(alex.soto@analog.com)


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From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The future?
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:09:05 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <c67RqB3w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:

>I, for one, hope never to fall under the catagory of a self-righteous person.

>Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
>userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
>God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Treaty of Maastricht, synonymous with the Key to Armageddon.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

...naaah, I can't say it.  It'd be too easy.

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From: greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter)
Subject: Serial Codes: 7O or 7Q?
Originator: usenet@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 21:20:13 GMT
Organization: A Planet Of His Own

Help!

What is the proper BBS serial code for Ghost Light? While the list I ftp'd
written by Lee Booth says it is 7Q, Lofficier's Terrestrial Index lists it
at 7O. O doesn't seem to be a very popular letter; the only [other] O's
listed are OO and OOO.

If anyone can set me straight on this, it would be much appreciated.

					- greg
-- 
Greg Trotter
Norman, Oklahoma
Internet: greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu
Fidonet: 1:147/63       TrekNet: 87:6012/8009
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From: mfh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (mitchell.hansinger)
Subject: Thanks!  What Daleks book should I read now? 
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:37:53 GMT


First I want to thank everyone who suggested which book I should read to
learn about the Daleks.  Genesis of the Daleks answered nearly all of the 
questions I had.

Next, let me ask which Daleks' book should be read now?

Now, let me respond to some of issues mentioned in the thread that my initial 
posting started.

To the person who draws the parallel between Davros' physical form and the 
Dalek's physical form, a hearty bravo.  I am an avid student of literature
who prides himself on making those obscure connections and being able to 
read between the lines.  Though I have seen the Daleks on TV countless times
and just finished Genesis, I completely missed the connection.  I must agree
that Davros created the Daleks in his image.  Davros has only one eye that is
located in the center of his head, one arm, and a bubbled mechanical base.  
He gave the Daleks [only] these things also.

To the person who said Davros wasn't all that bad.  Sorry, the evidence is
heavily against you.  From the begining of the war Davros considered himself
elite.  Though the Daleks were to help win the war for his people his first
concern was clearly his own glory and power.  He proves this completely by first
telling the Thals how to weaken the Kaled city dome.  He then goes on to 
exterminate those not loyal to him.  You say that he did all this for his people
and that he only turned against him when they were going to destroy the Daleks, 
which he felt was their best hope for victory.  However, if the majority of the 
people did not want the Daleks then he was not acting in their behalf.

To those of you who claim that the daleks are the ultimate, implying best, state
that the Kaleds will attain.  Sorry, once again the evidence does not support
this claim.  Yes, the Daleks are the final form into which the Kaleds will 
transform after continual exposure to radiation.  However, the biological form
of the Dalek is far inferior to a Kaled in many ways.  The biological form of
a Dalek is slower, smaller and more vulnerable than the humanoid Kaled.  
Consider the advantages you would have over the octopus-like dalek who is 
trying to kill you!  

Whether or not Davros was repulsed by the form that the Kaleds were to evolve 
into, is an issue I cannot address since there is no evidence to support this 
claim one way or another.

While we may dissagree on the above issues I think that we can all agree that
the line, "Where are we Doctor?" will always give us a chuckle and that we
will always find the Daleks fascinating.


Temporally,

-Mitchel
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From: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The future?
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 15:38:22 EDT
Reply-To: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us
Organization: The Veronica Lake Fan Club

yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:

> drwho@wpi.WPI.EDU (Eric Ant Von Laudermann) writes:
>  On a point of clarification,  as proven in the 2 previous World Wars, som
e
> massive bad has to take place before something good.  Only by the end of W
WII
> did we acquire the nuclear factor.
> 
>   This should be taken to talk.religion.misc, however I beg the readers to
> forgive me on a point of clarification.  Here's is what I believe will hap
pen
> 
> 1) All Christians who person believe in Christ will be transfigured to
>    immortality and meet Christ Jesus himself, for the first time in 2 mill
eni
> 
> 2) During a 7-year period, the most corrupt and lethal period in all histo
ry
>    will take place.
> 
> 3) After many deaths, suffering and neglect by self-centered, greedy manki
nd,
>    Christ does take over the reigns of power.
> 
> Again to follow up these 3 points, follow up to talk.religion.misc.
> 
> To reiterate, I was saying that scifi paints an optomistic picture of the
> future.  As a friend once told me, this is a form of escapism, and somehow
, w
> should not neglect reality.  Now, let's keep to the point.
> 
> Hopefully, this clears up somethings before a great big mess take place.
> 
> Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
> userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
> God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
> Treaty of Maastricht, synonymous with the Key to Armageddon.

Augh!  AUgh!  Augh!  Augh!  Augh!  Is ther _no_ place safe from people like
this?  No even the DrWho newsgroup?  What does the human race have to _do_
to get rid of people fanatics who think reality will change to fit _their_
conception?

Sorry, I felt the strong urge to scream.  I'm better now.


"Sometimes what you say is going to fly right in the faces of the 
powerful people who really run this world, but you don't care...you know 
it's your place to challenge authority..."

                                          Rockerboy
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter)
Subject: Re: Another Invasion of Time hole
Summary: Costing the net hundreds, if not thousands, of $
Originator: usenet@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:14:57 GMT
Organization: A Planet Of His Own

In article <15432@umd5.umd.edu> jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes:
>OK, here's one more.  According to "The Hand of Fear", the TARDIS is in a
>state of temporal grace, and guns can't be fired in there.  Andred's patrol
>staser doesn't work in there at the end of the episode 3 cliffhanger.
>But the Sontarans blaze away left and right in the TARDIS in the final
>episode.  What happened to the temporal grace subsystem?
>
>The Doctor sort of explained this in "Arc of Infinity" when talking about
>the Cybermen from "Earthshock" -- "Ah well, these things happen."  It
>could be that the temporal grace system was temporarily (temporalarily?)
>out of order.  Andred's gun not working is attributed to it being a patrol
>staser, which doesn't work in a relative dimension field (whatever that
>means).

Surely you're not suggesting that the TARDIS was *broken*???

			;-)

						- greg


-- 
Greg Trotter
Norman, Oklahoma
Internet: greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu
Fidonet: 1:147/63       TrekNet: 87:6012/8009
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From: danaf@bray1b.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: Hello and some Questions..
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 05:06:54 GMT

In article <18okajINN6v1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, jcg8@po.CWRU.Edu (Jude C. Giampaolo) writes:
|> 
|> Hello! Recently I was bitten by the Dr.Who bug, and am happy to 
|> have found this news group.
|> 
|> Q1. I have noticed that many of the Dalek episode titles have 
|>     something to do with religion, eg. 'Genisis of the Daleks'
|> and 'Ressurection of the Daleks' I was wondering if anyone could
|> tell me if there is a reson for this, and how many of the titles
|> are this way?

Well... they're all about Daleks!   9)

It's just tradition, now. Before it was tradition, it was considered a 
"snappy" title. And, actually, the titles themselves do make sense, in line
with the story. Being an atheist myself, I never really drew much of a 
religious connenction. There's also Remembrance of the Daleks, Planet of the
Daleks, Evil of the Daleks.... EVERY Dalek story (barring the first one and,
if I remember correctly, ONE other), has been named "________ of the Daleks".

|> Q2. Where did the Doctor firt aquire K-9?

Uhm... in a story called... uh... geez... "The Invisible Enemy", I believe.
On board a space ship carrying a strange sort of infectious viral "being". My
memory on the story is sketchy, but I do remember the typically silly paintboxed
special FX.

|> and last but not least....
|> 
|> Q3. What did the Doctor do (crime???) ?

He got really, really bored. That was why he ORIGINALLY left Gallifrey. Since then, he has been put on trial... uhm... three... no, sorry, four times, for various crimes, including assasination, interference, genocide, and downright 
meddling.

|> Tanks in advance.................

Ya'vhelkum.

|> ;)

8)

|> -- 
|> Jude Giampaolo / jcg8@po.cwru.edu
|>                      Case Western Reserve University 
|> "We're only at home when we're on the run..."
|> 		"Dreamline"-Rush

-- 
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	   living, dead, or undead... that's gonna CHANGE.
From: quiz@nemesis.UUCP
Date: 13 Sep 92 00:32 CDT
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Quiz 2 - Dr. Who Quote Quiz
Message-ID: <-403775@nemesis>
Nf-ID: #N:nemesis:-403775:000:1369
Nf-From: nemesis.UUCP!quiz    Sep 13 00:32:00 1992


This didn't make it out of my area for some reason on the first try, 
so lets try again:

If you haven't turned in Quiz 1, better get busy!
--------------------   Quiz  2  -------------------------------------------
Division A					  

1.	"Well, we must cover all possibilities to the best of our abilities."

2.  *	"The date is June the 2nd, eighteen-hundred and sixty-six."

3.	"I can't convert you into a cypher."

4.	"A pity you had to find out.  We didn't want any shooting
	 until our takeover was complete."

5.	"We'll meet again Doctor, never doubt it.  We'll meet again."


Division B
1.	"The human body has a basic weakness, one which I shall exploit,
	 to assist in the destruction of humanity."

2.	"The compound is guarded.  If you try to leave again, my men
	 will shoot to kill.  See that The Doctor knows."


Hint for Division B: Shown about the same time of year
REMEMBER: THIS HINT APPLIES TO DIVISION B ONLY.
	  DIVISION A AND B THEMES MAY BE DIFFERENT!


Answers by email ONLY - Must be received by 23:00CDT Wednesday, September 23th.
		Send them to:	quiz@nemesis.lonestar.org
				...uunet!utacfd!nemesis!quiz
				...letni!rwsys!nemesis!quiz

QuizMaster    quiz@nemesis.lonestar.org|"I know one of the ways out!"
            quiz%nemesis@utacfd.uta.edu|
	   ...uunet!utacfd!nemesis!quiz|
	   ...letni!rwsys!nemesis!quiz |Who said it and What story?
From: lazarus@interceptor.ksu.ksu.edu (Bart -Laz- Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Stranger in a Strange Land
Date: 11 Sep 1992 00:30:14 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: interceptor.ksu.ksu.edu


In article <1992Sep11.102729.3535@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au>, u6409886@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au writes:
>Maybe a tad out of place here, but since Robert Heinlein has appeared in
>a recent thread, I would like to draw peoples attention to the recently
>released unexpurgated version of "Stranger in a Strange Land". It is _much_
>more readable than the first printed heavily cut edition, and is now the
>great novel it always promised to be.

And to continue this off-topic thread (but still of some major interest to myself:
note my userid...), I've read BOTH versions of Stranger, and personally, I didn't
see much difference between the two books.  The uncut version was supposedly a bit
more raunchy and risquee, but it seemed tame compared to other books I've read.
I guess I'm just desensitized...

>We now return you to your regular programme.
>
>Andrew Davies

--
Bart -Laz- Smith
Kansas State University
In one week the 'Cats go hunting for Grizzlies...
"Do you live around here often?" -- Steven Wright -- "I Have a Pony"
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From: keeper@deeptht.armory.com (Ron O'Dell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: results
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:44:57 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: The Armory

In article <1992Aug23.752.12067@dosgate> "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com> writes:
>-> I think that the "*" denotes that the answer lies in a section of the
>-> story that is among the "Lost Episodes".
> No, that's from "Planet of the Daleks". Episode 4, me thinks.
> A plasic type sheet and filled it with hot air. The Doctor and company
>floated out of a air duct. Ah! This was the cliff hanger at the end of
>ep. 4. They were trapped in a room with the Daleks crashing in on them;
>while the Doc was trying to fill the sheet with air. That's it!

The end of episode 3, beginning of episode 4, actually.

But it does deserve an asterisk, since this scene is not in the
distributed version of the story.  (Neither episodic or movie versions.)

I never saw the original quiz or whatever it was, but ...

(And I don't consider this a spoiler since most people will never see this
 scene -- if they're watching DW on television, they won't see it, so what's
 to spoil?  The story is 20 years old, too ... )
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From: mrmuon@next02epsl.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins)
Subject: Re: Face of Evil  (was Re: Immortal Companions)
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:14:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.085200.21148@lugb.latrobe.edu.au>  
HISC9016351D@LUST.LATROBE.EDU.AU (MAMMONE,Robert) writes:
> Personally, I don't buy your argument in relation to this.   In Robot,  
the
> Tardis dematerialises, though not fully.  this doesn't necessarily mena  
the
> Doctor didn't leave.  I would argue he did leave, and landed on Leela's
> planet, in her past. In the Face of Evil, Xoanon is clearly a  
manifestation
>  of the Doctor's disturbed mind after his traumatic regeneration.  Thus,
>  Xoanon is a traumatised creation wrought by the Doctor's hand.  You  
also say
>  that the Tardis wasn't working precisely enough for him to return to
>  exactly where he took off from (ie the lab).  This is wrong in two  
regards. 
>       Firstly, the Doctor may have spent some time repairing
> the Xoanon, and returned some time later for him, but instantly for  
>Sarah. 
It would be possible for the Doctor to do that, but WHY would he? Saying  
that Xoannon is a product of the Dr's post regeneration trauma is not  
giving credit to thee brilliant plot of this story. The Doctor left a  
perfectly good copy of his personality in Xoannon, but because that  
personality was unnatural to that mindit wasn't stable there and another  
personality, a more natural one, formed and conflicted with the first (the  
Dr's). Xoannon then forced the expedition crew to act out its insane  
internal personality conflicts.
I just think it's a much simpler explaination to say that the Doctor  
visited Mordee with Sarah than to claim he snuck off during "Robot" and  
went to some difficulty to make it appear that he had never left.
From: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Sixth Doctor
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 15:50:56 EDT
Reply-To: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us
Organization: The Veronica Lake Fan Club

bn823@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Mullaney) writes:

> 
> In a previous article, torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Carlos E. Torres)
 sa
> 
> >	Funny you should mention Romana - I always thought it was funny the way
> >the Dr. was always right until the first Romana came - then he was always
 wr
> >allowing her an air of superiority which the Dr refused to accept.  
> >
> He wasn't always wrong, in Ribos he knew that the 'jethrake' (sp?) was the
> 'key' not the crown as Romana thought, also the Doctor was 'right' about
> things Romana was naive about.
> 

Well, we never said he was _always_ wrong!  Just that quite often he was,
and it was funny because he was so utterly grated by it.  (And yes, it was
funny when smug Romana occasionaly was proved wrong...!)

> > >		Mystic
> >
> >(alex.soto@analog.com)
> >
> 
> -- 
> : Pete Mullaney              :  Always do right.  This will gratify       
:
> :                             :  some and astonish the rest.              
 :
> :                             :      Samuel  Langhorne Clemens            
 : 
> :                             :      aka Mark Twain                       
 : 


"Sometimes what you say is going to fly right in the faces of the 
powerful people who really run this world, but you don't care...you know 
it's your place to challenge authority..."

                                          Rockerboy
From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Continuity Catalog, feel free to add to it!
Date: 13 Sep 92 21:23:27 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Sep12.170139.28801@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
>2.    Some people say "The Edge of Destruction" conflicts with either
>	"Terminus" or "Castrovalva" in their versions of the Big Bang.
>	TThere really is no conflict, since in Edge they were not at
>	the creation point of the Universe, but rather of a single
>	galaxy.

Additional conflict -- "Slipback" also deals with a ship travelling back
in time and *causing* the Big Bang.  As "Slipback" was written by Eric
Saward, who script-edited "Terminus", this is pretty inexcusable.

>4.    "Mission to the Unknown" and "the Daleks' Masterplan"
>	Problem:  Stories are dated by dialog in the stories themselves
>	as the year 4000 AD.  conflicts with "Remembrance of the 
>	Daleks" where the Doctor destroys Skaro one thousand years after
>	1963 AD, and possibly with "The Evil of the Daleks."
>	I am not sure if Evil was officially dated in the story,

no, it was not...

For that matter, was the future-time point in Remembrance dated either?
I don't remember the exact figure "1000 years" being mentioned at all.

>8.   "The Moonbase"
>	Problem: The Cybermen were supposedly all destroyed when Mondas
>	was destroyed.
>	Solution: some of them got away!

Or more explicitly -- maybe the Cybermen in The Moonbase, Tomb, and other
later stories were from a Cyber-colony established by Mondas, which then
went on and evolved differently (hence the different look).  These Cybermen
weren't powered from Mondas, and hence didn't die.

>16.  "The Daemons"
>	Problem: Azal hints it was the Daemons who destroyed Atlantis
>	as one of their failures.
>	Solution:  It was only a hint, and perhaps the Master, the 
>	Doctor, and Kronos' later visit to Atlantis qualifies as
>	intervention that changed this history.

Another possibility -- that the Daemons are simply physical manifestations
of the Chronovores -- i.e. that the Chronovores are simply the projections
into the Time Vortex of the Daemons' consciousness.

How's that?
From: wfrey@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Warren Frey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Dave wanted proof of support. Here it is.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 05:05:49 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

 
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From:   clay@cs.utk.edu
To:     wfrey@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Warren Frey)
Subject: Re: The future?
 
Warren -
 
In article <k3swqB1w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> you write:
 
|> Further, the University of
|> Alberta's local computer network had a newsgroup entirely devoted to
|> flaming you!
 
Oh how I wish I had one of those or that there was a world-wide one.  
Think
there would be any other takers for alt.flames.yadallee??  Why keep the 
fun
there at University of Alberta?
 
|>  When I last flamed you, people from across the country
|> e-mailed me supporting comments.
 
Count two more supporters and anti-Yadalleeists here in Tennessee, myself 
and
my wife.  We've been in the same situation that you're in when we were in
Spokane and can sympathize.  What is it about Dr. Who (and SF in general) 
that
brings out the whackos?
 
|> ...only to post on the
|> significance of leprosy and the cosine of the letter X in regards to
|> Romana's bastard stepchildren.
 
Beautiful description of a typical Yadallee post.  I laughed out loud 
when I
read that!!
 
Stiff upper lip.  And of luck in future. :-)
 
                                                        clay
--
/sClay 
P. Breshears       | Her hair matted with greasepaint and her magnificent
University of Tennessee | torso protruding from a negligee of green 
nylon, she
E-mail: clay@cs.utk.edu | maundered through the apartment house next to 
her own
Phone: (615) 974-3848   | thrusting her key into each astounded door.


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