From: garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin)
Subject: Petey Honey, credibility, and false accusations
Summary: no cajones
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:51:21 GMT

In article <nyikos.720811566@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
#In <1cpcnnINN6rs@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
#
##In article <nyikos.720130520@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
#
###I see you've been taking "credibility" lessons from Adrienne. 
#
##This from a man who accused me of forgery to the net, because *he* 
##can't read the attributions correctly, and hasn't had the balls to
##apologize.
#
#My netserver was not receiving messages.  If you explained why I am wrong
#and you are right about the attributions, I missed it.  So don't be
#talking about balls.

Petey Honey doesn't want Adrienne to alk about balls.  As we will
see later in this article, Petey Honey also wants to decide which
other terms people are allowed to use.  The phrase "control freak"
comes to mind.

#[By your warped standards, I *could* accuse you of cowardice for 
#posting *this* message while my 
#netserver was down, hoping that it would stay down until the message 
#expired, but I am not into such petty *ad hominem* accusations.]

The poor twit seems to think that people automatically know
when his server goes down.  Maybe he thinks that the net.censors
inform them.

#As to the forgery business, read on.

Oh, yes, read on.  It's enlightening.

##Andrea, you *do* notice that he's still using that "Lady Adrienne" shit,
##don't you?  After I requested he not do so, publicly.  AFTER *he* complained
##that someone else was harassing him....
#
#You misjudge me, Adrienne.  The reason I dusted off that honorific after
#a month of disuse is so that I could AVOID charging you with forgery and
#provide you with "a big fat out", as Suzanne might put it. 

I should think that the fact that Adrienne forged nothing would
be sufficient for Petey Honey to avoid accusing her of forgery,
but I guess I'm just not seeing the big picture here.

#Read the title of the thread, with all the question marks; read my post:
#nowhere do I categorically charge you with forgery.  I wanted to come
#up with a formula whereby we could both back out of this situation
#without major damage to your reputation: you could withdraw your charge
#of me misattributing you, without being accused of misrepresenting me.

Someone should really tell this fool that Adrienne's reputation
has suffered not one whit, but his own has been irreparably damaged.
He seems to think that it's okay to lie about someone else if
they've insulted you.  He must be part of the Darcy-Holtsinger-Hall
school.

#I've put two excerpts from the post below, to let you and everyone 
#else see what I mean.

Everyone else has already seen his mistake, but Petey Honey wants
to make sure that everyone knows just how stupid he is.

###Peter, get your attributions right.  I did not say the above.  Don did.
#
###I know you have a crush on me, and can hardly post, even in your conver-
###sations with others, without some reference to me, but please, make an
###effort to get it *right* when you pretend to be actually quoting.
#
###(not that it would surprise any of us that you show no interest, period,
###in ever getting things right on the net......)
#
## I mean, your forgery, if it could be called
##that, is so transparently obvious to anyone who has been on this net
##seven weeks, let alone seven years, that you must be joking, and must
##be counting on everyone else who is not a clueless newbie know you are
##joking.  

(One wonders when it will sink in to this moron that he made
an error that most first time readers could recognize.)

##I do, however, think you owe all the clueless newbies an apology.
#
##Especially since you haven't put in any smileys.  But, as I have told
##others, that is your prerogative as Lady High Everything Else of 
##talk.abortion.  But, again, how is a clueless newbie supposed to
##know that?
#
#Now you seem to be wanting to brazen it out and continue to charge
#me with misattribution.  If this is your intent, Adrienne, you are
#a bigger fool than I heretofore thought you were capable of being.

This is arguably the funniest thing that Petey Honey has ever said.

#As to your implication (expressly stated in other posts) that I am
#a hypocrite for "still using" a "Lady..." honorific for you while
#complaining about harassment by others--Adrienne, you seem to have
#no inkling even now of why I used these titles in the first place.
#
#I used them because you were bearing down on me imperiously:

This part is even funnier, if you get a kick out of watching
pro-forcers make reveal their hypocrisy for all the world to
see.  Petey Honey thinks that no one should call him by a
name that he doesn't like, regardless of their reason to do
so.  He also thinks that it's fine for him to use a name for
Adrienne that she doesn't like, which he justifies by claiming
that she was mean to him.  Double standards are typical in t.a.,
but they're rarely so blatantly revealed.  

It's not funny enough for me to include all of his self-righteous
ranting, though.  Interested people can read his original article.

I wonder if Adrienne typed in "I consider it to be harassment
when you use that term," if Nyikos would cease and desist.  I
wonder why he thinks that he has never provoked anyone here.
I wonder why none of his "friends" (Suzanne, DODie, Chaney/Hall)
have explained attributions to him - could it be that they, too,
are enjoying the show as he continues to lie about Adrienne?

Susan



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