From: EC33@lafibm.lafayette.edu (EC33)
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Subject: RE: Reply To Senior Carlos'
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:45:32 GMT
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In article <2A8AE60F.18084@ics.uci.edu> fkhoury@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Diego A. Maradona) writes:
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>In article <2A8A04D9.3542@ics.uci.edu> fkhoury@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Diego A. Maradona) writes:
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>Well.  What can I say, Carlos?
>It is too bad that Maradona will always be the best player in the world
>whether some people like it or not.
>
>>Always? Have you ever heard of a guy called PELE, aka "the athlete of
>>the 20th century"?  Pele was not only a better player than Diego
>>Armando (not Armendo) Maradona, but he had  something Maradona never had
>>or will have: CLASS.
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>Yes, I have heard of Pele.  But how would you ask people to respect him?
>He lives in the States.  All what he cares about is make money.  He does
>not give a damn about the Brasilian soccer cus if he did, he would have
>tried to help the national team wake up from its sleep.  How many times
>does he go to Brasil?  He helped the States win the host nation for
>WC rather than Brasil.  Unfortunetly, a lot of people believ the crap he
>says that he did that to popularize the sport in the states.  But I was
>not surprised.  The truth always hurts and if he told the truth, he would
>have said that he did that cuz he was recompensated for it.  This is not
>a bizar thing from "DIAMOND PELE".
>"THE ATHLETE OF THE 20TH CENTURY".  You abviously have good sources of info.
>I would like you to post it so that every one can see it and I could absorb
>from it.  I would not be surprised if the magasine that wrote that is owned
>by your dad.
>
First of all, Senior Carlos? What, do you think I am 85 years old or
what? There is no respect for Pele in the world?  Yes, Maradona is the
most respected player in the world.  I think the cocaine incidents (more
than once) have made him the most  respected player in the world.  Also
we have to note, that your beloved Maradona is a complete amateur
player, he has never ever played for money.  NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The recent demands he has made to the club Napoli clearly show this.
This guy is worse than Charles Barkeley.
Diego Maradona is a great player not let me rephrase that, an excellent
player.  Maybe one of the greatest ever.  However greatness in soccer
(this is my view and I know you will be enraged against this because you
seem to be completely in love with this guy) is not only measured on how
you well perform in the field, but also in your sportmanship and your
overall attitude towards the game.  Maradona is a self-centered,
arrogant man that thinks the whole world of soccer is there for his
personal use and command.
What does my dad have to do with all this? If you want to get personal
(you must be hurt for the attacks on your idol, your sole reason for
existence) then just E-mail me your responses.  Solving our ideological
differences is not the purpose of this network and all other readers
must be bored with our discussion.
>
>
>If we want to be objective, no single football (I hate to say soccer) in
>the world come even close to Argentina if you want to look at the last
>14 years.  They won it in 1978.  They more than deserved it in 1986.
>They were runner-up in 1990.  They were in three out of the last four
>final match of the world cup.  It would be a much better idea for
>people to look at facts before they talk so that they don't make fool
>out of themselves.
>
>>No team has come even close? Argentina is the greatest? Make a fool
>>out of ourselves?  Have you ever heard about Germany?   Champs in '74,
>>finalists in'82 & '86 and champs in 1990. (4 out of 5)  Not even close
>>to matching Argentina?
>
>I agree with you on the fact that German soccer comes close to the
>Argentinian's.
>
>The fact they think they are European and superior is not of anyone's
>business.  Lots of them have European origions.  Boy, I had never known that
>this was something to be ashamed of until I read your posting.
>
>>Thinking that you are superior because of the color of the skin or your
>>origins, is something to be ashamed of.  It is a form of racism for your
>>information.
>**Yes, and being jealousy from someone is another form of racism for your
>info.<----
>
Who says I'm jealous?  The only person here that is jealous of not being
Argentinian is you.  Do not mistake dislike for jealousy.  I don't even
think Argentinian soccer is heavenly like some want to make us believe.
And defining jealousy as racism is kind (no,   very) stupid.  If I'm
envious of my neighbor because he has a Ferrari and I don't, am I a
racist?  I'm jealous wrt to my girlfriend ergo I'm racist.  Come on, get
real.


>Let us just look at facts before we talk cuz this will get other people to
>respect us.

  Again:  "Do as I say not as I do!"

   I'm glad you finally got the spelling of the Argentinian team.
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