From: bottom@hawk1.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Mysterious Happening
Keywords: John Mack-hypnosis-etc.
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:41:46 GMT
Reply-To: hedron::daveb
Organization: ASO IM operations


with all the noise about investigators and their non-clinical approach I decided
to add this little thread.

I was regressed once by Dr. John Mack at his home in Mass. We were 
investigating a particular incident that seemed a bit odd, but where I had
no conscious memory of anything unusual happening, except that there was a
time anomoly, ie: it appeared that I had lost a couple hours of time. My 
closest friend who was there at the time felt my behavior was bizzarre and
inconsistant with my normal behavior both immediately before and after the
incident, he however cannot discuss the subject for any length of time without
becoming violently ill. I find this to be a bit odd in itself. There were
other details that are consistant with other abduction experiences which
I have been asked to keep private as some of these details are used to in an
attempt to validate other potential experiencer's stories.I have
a cassette tape of the regression and I can say that he did not lead me to
any conclusion, in fact we found nothing at all. This is a very normal 
occurance, Hopkins and others have all done countless regressions where 
there was no "memory" of an abduction or any other out of the ordinary
experience. (the missing time has not been explaned though) Skeptics and 
critics of these investigators ignore this fact as it's inconsistant with 
their preconceptions of amatuers leading hypnotized victims to outrageous 
conclusions. The reason you don't hear more about the failures is because 
they aren't of any value whatsoever in the continuing investigations.

There are a number of trained professionals like Dr. Mack who are working
in this field now who are not charlatans or amatuers and they get similar
results as Hopkins and others without leading their subject in any way. There
are unfortunately a number of hangers-on like Strieber (who ripped Budd 
Hopkins off to write his books) who only add to the noise level. (an 
interesting aside here about Strieber: All of the abductees that I know
personally believe that Strieber is lying in his books, the same feeling I
got when I read them, I've since heard rumors that Strieber has admitted
making it up but I don't know if that's true).

As to what Dr. Mack believes he's pretty hard to pin down on the subject. I
take that to be positive since he's not saying that aliens abducted these
people, he does say that all of the abductees have a remarkably consistant
story to tell and they have all been subjected to some major trauma in their
lives, the source of which seems to be the same. To quote Dr Mack "30 crazy
people could not have thought up stories this consistant independantly of 
each other".

If there is a terrestial explanation I'd love to hear one I can believe. Spare
me the child sexual trauma explanations though they don't pan out in most
of these cases and where they do the investigation is dropped, at least by
the people who I've been exposed to.

--
/dave

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