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From: santos@mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (Rafael &)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
Subject: Re: PERRY RHODAN
Date: 17 Nov 92 05:31:40 GMT
	<1e69ijINN1rv@rave.larc.nasa.gov>
	<1992Nov16.143440.28161@dxcern.cern.ch>
Organization: KIT Iizuka, AI Dept, JAPAN.

In article <1992Nov16.143440.28161@dxcern.cern.ch> xexeo@dxcern.cern.ch (Geraldo Xexeo) writes:

[dicas sobre clubes de FC deletadas]

>  A maioria detestava o que tinha lido de P.Rhodan. Uns poucos colecionavam
>por habito, uns gatos pingados por gosto (ou mau-gosto). Todos concordavam
>que a serie so' piorava com o tempo... :-)

Minha humilde opiniao e umas informacoes:

1) A serie e dividida em mini-series tematicas. Por exemplo:
Vol. 1 ao 49 - Fundacao do 3o imperio, unificacao do planeta
50 ao 99 - Atlan e confrontos com Arcon
100 ao 149 - Acon. Expansao da Terra.
150 ao 199 - Guerra com os Blues. 
200 ao 299 - Senhores da Galaxia. A melhor de todas, de longe.
300 ao 399 - M87. Interessante...
400 ao 499 - Cappins. Similar ao Senhores da Galaxia, mas menos imaginativa.
500 ao 569 - Cynos. Foi cancelada no meio da serie no Brasil. Um tedio.

2) Nos livros, era dito que numeros isolados poderiam ser lidos 
independente da serie, o que era uma mentira grossa. Existiam volumes
que poderiam ser considerados independentes, mas raramente 100 %.
Exemplo: "A Nave dos Antepassados", um dos meus preferidos.

3) Existiam alguns termos tecnicos completamente mirabolantes. O leitor
deveria desistir de achar fundamento nesses termos e assuntos
correlatos, e pensar como sendo somente nomes de objetos. Facilita
a leitura.

Eu lia a serie, todos os volumes, ate o ultimo publicado no Brasil,
e gostava, mas a ultima serie foi realmente um saco. De maneira geral,
nao era uma serie como "tiroteio no espaco", tinha algumas colocacoes
interessantes.

>  Eu nunca li.

Quem quiser experimentar, va a Ediouro e compre os primeiros 10 volumes.
Nao tem tantas aventuras espaciais, mas da pra ter uma ideia do estilo.
De qualquer jeito, a melhor serie foi do numero 200 ao 299.

Um abraco,
Rafael.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: acarstea@icaen.uiowa.edu (Alin-Andrei Carsteanu)
Subject: Re: Romanian humor
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:43:28 GMT

In article <9rw11fr@rpi.edu> kai@unix.cie.rpi.edu (Kai Yang) writes:
>I lived in Romania for a while. It seems to me that Romanians enjoy
>jokes (banc) and humors more than people from most other countries. It
>is my impression that Romanians live quite happily even though they
>are not materially rich. I wonder whether such culture has negative
>effects on the working ethics of Romanian people. I mean, if people
>spend too much time and energy in talking and enjoying, can they work
>hard and seriously?
>
Along history, I have seen no positive ( > 0) correlation between
happiness and capacity of survival, consistently, neither at a
global level, nor at an individual level.
(To put it like this, given the social restrictions and given your
own wishes, you have the choice...)

	Alin
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: Romanian humor
From: florin@wiscon.weizmann.ac.il (Cutzu Florin)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:33:42 GMT
Organization: Weizmann Institute of Science, Computation Center.
Originator: florin@velvet.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il


On November 18 jhsegal@wiscon.weizmann.ac.il (Akiva Segal "Livian")
writes that it "is well known" that "a big majority" of the Romanians
"allways looks for ... roberry". (Probably Akiva meant "always" and
"robbery").

We also lived in Romania for a long time, and we are extremely
surprised to hear these statements from someone who claims that "This
is not prejudice. I lived there.". Indeed, it is not prejudice: it is
just calumny. But maybe jhsegal@wiscon.weizmann.ac.il is sore because
he had experienced the effects of Romanian humor ...

Florin Cutzu
Internet: florin@wisdom.weizmann.ac.il

Florin Manolache
Internet: bogdan@wisdom.weizmann.ac.il


Dept. of Applied Mathematics and Computer Science
The Weizmann Institute of Science
Rehovot 76100, ISRAEL
--
Florin Cutzu
Internet: florin@wisdom.weizmann.ac.il
Dept. of Applied Mathematics and Computer Science
The Weizmann Institute of Science
From: bucur@pollux.usc.edu (alexander bucur)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: Moldova/Romania News from RFE/RL, 11/17/92
Date: 18 Nov 1992 17:36:03 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu

In article <1992Nov17.161439.18661@umr.edu> msirbu@next5.cs.umr.edu (Mihai Sirbu) writes:
.....

  Local conscripts will henceforth have the option to
serve in either the "Dniester" forces or Russia's 14th Army for a
starting wage of 3,000 to 4,000 rubles per month, Lebed and the
"Dniester republic"'s military commissar told a ceremonial
gathering of draftees held under the Russian and Soviet Moldovan
flags.

.....

Question:  Who pays these conscripts?  I mean 3,000 rubles/month is quite
a lot of money, and I do not understand how can the Dniester forces can
afford them.  I mean, this is why the IMF gives long term loans to Russia
so they can sponsor war parties?   Does anyone really know what is the
scoop with these mercenary pay?

Sasha Bucur
From: fraserdt@unixg.ubc.ca (David T.S. Fraser)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: When and why did the NSF split?
Date: 18 Nov 92 05:34:25 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca
Keywords: Romania, Iliescu, Politics


I am in the process of writing a term paper on the political parties of
Romania and I am in need of more information on the National Salvation
Front and the Democratic National Salvation Front. I don't have much info
on why the NSF split.

Also, does anyone know what parties make up the Democratic Convention?

Any info would help, but if anyone has any references for this, I'd be
extra grateful.

Thanks a lot.

David Fraser

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: raicu@netcom.com (Eugen Raicu)
Subject: Re: Romanian humor
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:37:05 GMT

Kai Yang (kai@unix.cie.rpi.edu) wrote:
: I lived in Romania for a while. It seems to me that Romanians enjoy
: jokes (banc) and humors more than people from most other countries. It
: is my impression that Romanians live quite happily even though they
: are not materially rich. I wonder whether such culture has negative
: effects on the working ethics of Romanian people. I mean, if people
: spend too much time and energy in talking and enjoying, can they work
: hard and seriously?

There is a spectrum of humor and of "work ethic" of cultures. If you
include a fair cross section of cultures, I don't think Romanians would
come out at an extreme of the spectrum.

I personally think that a somewhat mellow and humorous life is likely
to end up being both longer and more meaningful than a humorless life
of compulsive work.

Can people still appreciate jokes such as the following?

Q: How many KGB/Securitate agents does it take to change a light bulb?
A: What, are you trying to foment discontent? The light bulb is burning
more brightly than ever!

-- 
Eugen Raicu
raicu@netcom.com
1912 Addison Street Apt. 15, Berkeley, CA 94704-1128
(510) 644 3204
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: zoelen@rulfsw.leidenuniv.nl
Subject: mail to romania
Organization: Leiden University Faculty of Social Sciences
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:41:49 +0100

hi all..
when i write letters to romania about 50% seems to get lost, especially
when it is send to bucarest. does anyone know a trick to get it there
safely, does it help if i send it registered?
please mail me at my account: zoelen@rulfsw.leidenUniv.nl    
because this newsgroup is not supported by my node and i only get
a small part of the messages posted here.
thanks, ad van zoelen, leiden, holland
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: pebi@aem.umn.edu (Peter A. Bidian)
Subject: Re: Corruption Problem in Romania
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:23:04 GMT

mihai@sep.Stanford.EDU (Alexander Mihai Popovici) writes:

>In article <qnz1-__@rpi.edu>, kai@unix.cie.rpi.edu (Kai Yang) writes:
>|> 
>|> Romania was a very corrupted society during the period that I was
>|> there. I guess the problem has not been solved in the post-communist
>|> era.  I will give a few examples that I know of. 
>|> Bribe (bila) is needed in many social activities. Few people will
>|> feel insulted or offended if someone offer bribes to them.  You
>|> need a carton of Kent cigarette if you want to see a doctor. 

>This one is an economical problem.  Imagine a doctor in USA made 
>only $5 an hour, or close to the minimum wage.  Wouldn't the tip
>be important?  Why tipping a waitress is not unusual but tipping
>a doctor is?  In Romania the legal salary of a doctor was the same
>as the one for a waitress.  So they just demanded bigger tips.

I agree that there is an economic problem here. But the difference
between a waitress here and a doctor there is, that teh waiter has
to serve you first, and maybe after that they they get that tip.
But in Romania nothing worked if you didn't give that tip in advance.

I think the big difference between the bribery in the western states and
in Romania (as well as other rather poor countries) is that you have
to give money for every little thing. Here bribery starts at a much
higher level. Big constructions projects for example.

Peter

Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: msirbu@next5.cs.umr.edu (Mihai Sirbu)
Subject: Moldova/Romania News from RFE/RL, 11/13/92
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:08:46 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University

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RFE/RL Daily Report                No. 220, 13 November 1992

MOLDOVAN PRESIDENT IN CENTRAL ASIA. Moldovan President Mircea
Snegur conferred and signed an interstate treaty and a trade
agreement with Kyrgyzstan's President Askar Akayev in Bishkek on 11
November.  Snegur told a press conference that the two presidents
saw eye to eye on economic reforms and interethnic relations, and
agreed on the need to clearly distinguish between the right of
national self-determination and ethnic separatism, Interfax and
Radio Mayak reported.  On 4 November, Snegur had signed with
Kazakhstan's President Nursultan Nazarbaev in Alma-Ata an
interstate treaty and a trade agreement, ITAR-TASS and Ostankino TV
reported. Turkmenistan asked Snegur to postpone his scheduled visit
there, apparently because of the Turkmen President's schedule of
meetings on the situation in Tajikistan. Snegur's trip reflects
Moldova's preference for direct bilateral ties with CIS member
states as opposed to proceeding through multilateral CIS
structures.  (Vladimir Socor, RFE/RL, Inc.)

ROMANIAN MINORITIES AGREE TO COOPERATE. The 13 parliamentary
representatives of Romania's smaller ethnic minorities decided on
12 November to step up collaboration for the purpose of securing
their interests, Western agencies report. These deputies have one
seat each in the Chamber of Deputies according to a constitutional
provision for representation of ethnic minorities that do not gain
representation through the regular electoral process. The 13 met at
the initiative of the German Democratic Forum.  The participants
(not including the Hungarian Democratic Federation of Romania,
which gained representation through regular elections) declared
their loyalty to the state and called for the setting up of a
separate state secretariat for minority questions. They also
expressed regret that their parliamentary group had not been
consulted before formation of the new government.  (Michael Shafir,
RFE/RL, Inc.)

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From: cad214@uk.ac.strath.ccsun ("P.Craig", Computer Science)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Mailing lists
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:40:57 GMT
Reply-To: cad214@uk.ac.strath.ccsun
Organization: Strathclyde University Sun Workstations.


Hi,
    I`m posting this for a friend who is Romanian and over here
studying at Paisley Uni..ok


Does anybody know if/wheer there is stored the "soc.culture.romanian"
internet news group, and if it is accessible vai anonymous ftp
over janet?
	Unfortunately I have no direct access to news, my only chance is
to use anonymous ftp to get there.
Or alternatevely is there a mailing list for the news group

please do not post but mail me at

apc9u087@uk.ac.paisley.cs

V.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: kai@unix.cie.rpi.edu (Kai Yang)
Subject: Re: Romanian humor
Organization: CIE, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 07:31:09 GMT

I lived in Romania for a while. It seems to me that Romanian enjoy
jokes (banc) and humors more that people from most other countries. It
is also my impression that Romanians live quite happily even though
they are not materially rich. I wonder whether such culture can have
negative effects on working ethics of Romanian people. I mean, if
people spend too much time and energy in talking and enjoying, can
they work hard and seriously?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: dperl@bnr.ca (Bryan Utas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: Corruption Problem in Romania
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:21:04 GMT
Reply-To: don't
Organization: BNR Ottawa

In article <qnz1-__@rpi.edu>, kai@unix.cie.rpi.edu (Kai Yang) writes:
|> Corruption problems exist in virtually every country. However,
|> there is a difference in degree. 
|> 
|> Romania was a very corrupted society during the period that I was
|> there. I guess the problem has not been solved in the post-communist
|> era.
|>     ...............
|> I would appreciate if someone can give a discussion and analysis of
|> this subject from this newsgroup in the following aspects: 
|> 
|> 1. The historical, social, and cultural origins of the corruption problem.
|>    Is it the results of the Ottoman rule in the history (a Romanian friend
|>    told me so.)? 
|>    Is it the results of the communist regime (I have seen less corrupted
|>    communist and capitalist countries.)?
|>    or, is it because of the living standard difference between Romania
|>    and western countries? 

  The communist regime and the living standard are not a cause, but an effect
of the different culture that exists in Eastern Europe, as opposed to Western
Europe.  The Ottoman Empire is a cause, but I don't think it's the only one:
see the Russians who were not occupied by the Turks.
  I believe the reasons are only historical.  Corruption exists in all the
countries that don't have a tradition in democracy.  The two things go
together; they're almost the same thing.  There is corruption all over Asia,
Africa, South America.  It's just that once democracy is installed, and it
becomes a tradition, it almost never changes back.  But of course, corruption
exists absolutely everywhere in a certain measure (how about Washington, DC?).
Then, on the other hand, so does lack of democracy.
    
|> 2. Are there any possible measures that can  be taken so that corruption
|>    can be supressed to a controlable level? Or, simply, it is an
|>    unsolvable  problem.

  Beats me.  How do you teach a child to be honest?  You spank him, you give
him candies?  I would say that the best thing is the power of example.
Undemocratic countries will just want to have the life of the western world
and they will try to imitate the democratic countries; it is general agreement
that the latter ones are better off.

-- 
Dan Perl	(613)763-9411
Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: msirbu@next5.cs.umr.edu (Mihai Sirbu)
Subject: Moldova/Romania News from RFE/RL, 11/20/92
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:16:59 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University

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RFE/RL Daily Report                No. 224, November 20, 1992

TURKEY CALLS FOR BALKAN CONFERENCE. Reuters on 19 November
reported that Turkey has invited 10 countries to Istanbul at an
unspecified time for talks on Bosnia and regional security. Asked
to participate are Albania, Austria, Bulgaria, Greece, Hungary,
and Romania, plus the former Yugoslav republics of
Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia, Macedonia, and Slovenia. The 20
November Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung said that Serbia was
invited as well, while the Reuters account says that the rump
Yugoslavia was excluded, without specifically mentioning Serbia.
Turkey has strong cultural and historical ties to the Bosnian
Muslims, the Albanians, and other peoples in the Balkans, and is
anxious to end the fighting in Bosnia and prevent it from
spreading to Kosovo, the Sandzak, or Macedonia. Ankara favors
concerted international action, and takes care not to play into
the hands of Serbian propaganda, which tries to depict the
conflict as a religious war rather than one for land and power.
(Patrick Moore, RFE/RL Inc.)

ROMANIAN PARLIAMENT CONFIRMS NEW CABINET. On 19 November
Parliament confirmed by a 260 to 203 vote the new cabinet headed
by Nicolae Vacaroiu. The government consists of 22 ministers, of
whom half are members of the Democratic National Salvation Front,
a leftist party which emerged as the strongest political force in
Romania after elections in late September. The other halfincluding
the prime ministersay they are independent. In an interview with
Radio Bucharest after the vote, Vacaroiu said his top priority is
to lead the country through a winter of anticipated economic and
social difficulties. He also pledged that his cabinet will work
out a detailed four-year program of transition in the next 23
months. (Dan Ionescu, RFE/RL Inc.)

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From: ns@csd.cri.dk (Nick Sandru)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian,talk.politicvs.soviet,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: The USSR lives in Dniestr
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:16:02 GMT
Organization: Computer Resources International A/S

sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) writes:

>From RFE/RL Daily Report, No. 217, 10 November 1992
>)"DNIESTER REPUBLIC" CELEBRATES BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION.  The
>)Russian-ruled "Dniester republic" in eastern Moldova celebrated the
>)Bolshevik revolution anniversary on 7 November with rallies and
>)demonstrations. Addressing a rally at the Lenin monument in
>)Tiraspol, the "republic president," Igor Smirnov, praised Soviet
>)achievements and chastised other parts of the former Union for
>)renouncing them,

>Well, these people are funny, aren't they?
>-- 
>Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se

They would be - without their AK-47's...

Long Haired Nick

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From: fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Vacaroiu's comments
Keywords: market, state role
Date: 22 Nov 92 16:36:44 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

Geez, did everyone see Vacaroiu' comments about the role of the state
and whatever he said to the effect that the market does not play
the (normatively!) primary role in Romania's economic future?  
Maybe it's just my bias as a Westerner, but does Romania really
need this kind of a Ceausescu-holdover-stick-in-the-mud running
the prime ministry and the government?  Won't it just prolong
the necessary pain of reform?

Just some futile thoughts, I suppose...
Frank Sellin, fes9s@virginia.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: hancu@crim.ca (Marius Hancu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: E-mail address in Cluj
Summary: Generic address for the Technical University of Cluj
Keywords: Romania, email
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:09:14 GMT
Organization: CRIM

This is a generic address for the Technical University of Cluj. It's
recommended to indicate the destination in the Subject: For ...

utcluj@pi-bucuresti.th-darmstadt.de

(via Darmstadt and Polytechnical Institute of Bucharest)

I have no idea how well it works. I have problems myself with
Timisoara.

Marius Hancu
-- 
Marius Hancu, Parallel Architectures Group 
Centre de Recherche Informatique de Montreal (CRIM)
3744, Jean-Brillant, Bureau 500, Montreal, Quebec H3T 1P1, Canada 
phone: (514) 340-5907, fax: 514-340-5777, email: hancu@crim.ca
From: andrei@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Andrei Bulucea)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: mail problems
Date: 19 Nov 1992 08:14:53 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: world
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>hi all..
>when i write letters to romania about 50% seems to get lost, especially
>when it is send to bucarest. does anyone know a trick to get it there
>safely, does it help if i send it registered?
>please mail me at my account: zoelen@rulfsw.leidenUniv.nl    
>because this newsgroup is not supported by my node and i only get
>a small part of the messages posted here.
>thanks, ad van zoelen, leiden, holland


The letters don't get lost. In most of the cases, the mailman opens the
letter
to check for cash, etc. If he cannot re-seal the envelope, he will not
deliver 
the mail... This is very sad but true. 

Here's few 'smart' tips: 

1) on the envelope use a child's (7-13 years old) handwriting to write
the addresses. 
Nobody will think that inside this envelope there's a chance in
finding cash or any high price items.

2) make copies and send the same letter few times. 

3) Write on the envelope the contens of your letter. (Example: B&W
pictures or 
xerox material or 'no cash')

Regards, 
Andrei

andrewb@europe.ebay.sun.com

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