HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: derwent.1@nd.edu (John E. Derwent)
Subject: Re: Bug in StuffIt Expander??
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:48:41 GMT

In article <1dpj48INNeud@mthvax.cs.miami.edu>, rsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu
(Roby Sherman) wrote:
> 
> Hello all.
> 
> I'm having a problem with Stuffit Expander extracting Compact Pro
> archives. The problem is that SE will frequenty quit before extracting
> the entire contents of the archive, leaving me unaware that any sort of
> problem occured. Has anyone else ever heard of this problem?
> 
>      thanks in advance,
> 
> 
>        w3     --Roby 
> -- 
> rsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu					Roby Sherman

I had the same problem.  Frequently archives with many files in them would
only have about half or two-thirds of them expanded.  Sometimes if I
restarted it would work on one archive that it hadn't worked on before.  I
was unsuccessful in finding any init conflict.  Finally I quit using it.  

John
From: chandbl@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Looking for Mac version of OTTER
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:49:17 CST
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

Anyone come across a copy of OTTER (free logic and theorem proving
software) for the macintosh?

Thanks!

Baron.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: nrf@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (neal.r.fildes)
Subject: Re: Fair Witness?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:02:28 GMT

From article <1992Nov4.112320.20541@rdg.dec.com>, by Ian Catlin <catlin@iosg.enet.dec.com>:
> I'm interested in any information anyone has on Chena Software's Fair
> Witness.  It sounds good, but I've yet to see any independent
> information/review...
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Ian.
> 
> All my views are my own and not those of my company, wife, friends,
> relations and dog.

a few comments: 

1) whoever cooked up fair witness is very creative, and spent lots of
documentation effort on helping users apply it to daily tasks.

2) it has many, many uses, some of which will become apparent as you have
used it for a while and start to play with some of the less mainline 
features

3) support has been fantastic, with a number of free releases sent out
un-solicited.

4) they mentioned a version 2 with style sheets, and I hope to see that some day.

Bottom line, a very useful program, a responsive support organization,
and good value for the money.

Disclaimer: 
1) I am in no way affiliated with Chena
2) I am not allowed to make a 'policy decision' ifor my employer, so this
is a strictly personal opinion.

NRFildes
n.r.fildes@att.com
From: ndanner@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu (norman danner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: LaTeX/TeX Information
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:53:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov6.225322.4942
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington

In article <Bx9p46.L58@acsu.buffalo.edu> blake@acsu.buffalo.edu (Brian C. Blake) writes:
[...]
>DirectTex - Shareware (for $100) TeX - better than OzTeX because it has BibTeX,
>	    Metafont, MakeIndex, etc
[...]

Just for the record, MacBibTeX (BibTeX 0.99c) is available from
midway.uchicago.edu (loc. of OzTeX).  I haven't used it much, but it
hasn't done anything wrong yet.

-- 
Norman Danner                    | The only difference between mathematicians
The Semantic Nihilist            |  and philosophers is that mathematicians
ndanner@indiana.edu              |      throw away their scratch paper.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: fberger@cat.de (Frank Berger)
Subject: Optimizing a IIci for PageMaker
Organization: C.A.T. Kommunikations-System
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 20:04:33 GMT


Hi there,

I am using a IIci for DTP work with PageMaker (mostly), FrameMaker (sometimes)
etc. for layouting manuals (no color pictures or so). I want to optimize
this Mac for this task, so I would like to know which areas to improve
to get the best improvement for a reasonable price.
The current configuration is:

        IIci with 8MB
        40 MB disk, 28 ms (files are stored on a server)
        MiroPrismaII graphic card (not so bad, 1024x1024x256)

So, should I buy a faster and bigger disk, an accelerated graphic card
(I am thinking about a SuperMac Thunder/8), an accelerator board, memory,
the Apple IIci cache card, or even a Quadra...

Any recommendations are very much appreciated.

Thanks and regards,

        Frank
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Frank Berger        WORDSTATION| Internet: fberger@cat.de      (normal mails)
Software and Docum. Translation|           fberger@cat.sub.org (large files)
+ Localization Consultancy GmbH| AppleLink:GER.XSE0172
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: John T. Chapman <jtc1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: De-Fragmenting the Hard Drive
X-Xxdate: Tue, 10 Nov 92 19: 24:38 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: jtc1@cornell.edu
Organization: Office of Computing and Statistical Consulting
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:15:08 GMT

In article <6873@news.duke.edu> Gavin  Kistner, gk1@acpub.duke.edu writes:
>Anyone's Any Suggestions on Anything would be Great!

Call Norton's Tech Support line. Sure, it's a toll-call, but the 
technicians there have been invaluable in helping me recover a number of 
'unfixable' problems. Sometimes the techs have even had me describe the 
problem, checked it out, then called me back (their charges) to help walk 
me through a fix.

Give them a call and be prepared to wait a couple minutes for a 
technician; with luck, you won't be disappointed.

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  Office of Computing and Statistical Consulting
  Cornell University - College of Human Ecology
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fit/How can anybody be enlightened?/Truth is after all so poorly lit"
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Jonathan A. Duke <jonathan@hermes.bc.edu>
Subject: Re: Golden Triangle Times Two
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A71FE4096A010508@ipmc08.bc.edu>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 6 Nov 92 08:57:45 GMT
Organization: Boston College
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:02:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.144959.8760@aston.ac.uk> Phil J Barrett,
barretpj@cs.aston.ac.uk writes:
>I spotted this during the (very slick) demo at Apple Expo UK last week.
Even
>with an empty SyQuest, the Finder said '8.4M used' (or some similar
amount).
>It turns out that TimesTwo reports as 'used' any space which isn't
available
>due to files not compressing to half size. So on a "full" '80M' (40Mx2)
disk,
>there may be 80M of your data, or 60M data and 20M used by a TimesTwo
invisible
>file, or even (if all your data is StuffIt files) 35M of your files and a
>45M invisible file. In the opposite case, you could have 80M of TIFF
files
>and actually have 30M free on the real disk - which you can't get at.

Actually, you can have more than 80M of stuff on the disk.  It TT can 
compress greater than 2:1, it will, and it will show the free space
correctly.

Currently I'm running at about 1.5 to 1.7 to 1, which is average given
that I have a lot of Type 1 fonts on my disk (about 20M).

Jon
From: bryanh@stout.gvg.tek.com (Bryan Hilterbrand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: ATM?! What's the difference?
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:41:10 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <mike_steiner-061192141315@192.35.50.131> mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:
>In article <Bx7qL7.5CH@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>,
>cbsmith@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Smith) wrote:
>> 
>> -- 
>> $7.50 ATM gives you display postscript. The expensive one gives you "Multiple Master" capability if you are into it.
>> 
>> --Bo ("the One who Knows")
>
>ATM does not give you Display Postscript.  Display Postscript involves a
>lot more than just fonts; it is the entire display or printout.  At best,
>one might say that ATM is a subset of Display Postscript.

Both the $50 ATM and the $7.50 ATM allow your Mac to display Postscript
FONTS -- as in CHARACTERS.  It doesn't display Postscript; there are
several, somewhat expensive programs (such as Freedom of the Press) that
allow you to preview Postscript.

ATM 3.0 (the current version) allows your Mac to display multiple master
fonts, and you can get ATM 3.0 for $7.50.  If you don't use multiple
master fonts (if you don't know what they are, then you probably don't
use them) and you don't use 7.1, then you can use ATM 2.03.  According
to reports, ATM 2.03 is about half the size of ATM 3.0.

The real difference between the $50 ATM and the $7.50 ATM is that the
$7.50 ATM (either 2.x or 3.0) only has the Adobe Garamond font family
and no others.  The $50 version has Postscript versions of (most of?)
the standard Mac fonts (Times, Symbol, etc.) but does not include the
Garamond font.  All versions of ATM will allow you to add other
purchased, shareware, or freeware type 1 (Postscript) fonts to your
system.

I'm currently using ATM 2.03 (the $7.50 version ;-) ) on my PowerBook
100, and I'm quite happy with it.  I grabbed a bunch of type 1 fonts
off the archives, and most of them worked wonderfully!  I mix TrueType
fonts with type 1 fonts in my documents (since I don't have a type 1
version of Times), and my DeskWriter has no trouble at all with this.

Bryan


Bryan Hilterbrand      bryanh@stout.GVG.TEK.COM  |     /\  /\
Grass Valley Group, Production Systems Division  |  __/ G\/G \__
From: erh0362@tesla.njit.edu (Elliotte Rusty Harold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: SpaceSaver or AutoDoubler?
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:17:38 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

>>	I'd be willing to make the tradeoff.  More to the point though I'd be 
>>willing to make a much larger trade-off to keep lists of different files to be 
>>compressed so that I could decide on a file-by-file basis which files I wanted 
>>to compress and which I didn't.  
>>
> 	But why would you want to make a 'list', when there are MUCH better
> ways to do this.  

	OK.  You've piqued my curiosity.  How would you do this?  Or perhaps 
I should ask how does StuffIt SpaceSaver do this since I'm apparently wrong 
about it not working this way.  
	And how do I configure SpaceSaver to do this?  My 
upgarde finally arrived today. (Hooray for the post office.  Boos to UPS.) 
I haven't installed it yet, but reading through the manual I don't see any 
means of doing this with the customizability I want.  Perhaps it's the default?
i.e. if I just select a file and use Magic Menu to compress it, will it then be 
automatically decompressed and recompressed as necessary without any further 
effort on my part?  In fact that's exactly what you said later in the message 
so I guess a reply isn't necessary.  I'll verify this myself when I install 
SpaceSaver.  Nonetheless I did read the manual at lunch and this wasn't obvious 
from that.  There's a lot of verbiage about using "small" and "big" labels 
(neither of which I intend to use if I can avoid it though I'm glad the 
option is there.) but very little on using the much more sensible Magic 
Menu approach.

--Elliotte
From: blimoges@sobeco.com (Bertrand Limoges)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: nisus help
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:57:08 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Sobeco Ernst & Young

In article <BxA18C.5q@DMI.USherb.CA>, cormm00@DMI.USherb.CA (MARTIN GUY
CORMIER) wrote:
> 
> I have a problem,
> I deleted my copy of Nsus 3.0.6 form my HD and have 3,0.5 on my originals, does someone know where I can find the updater witch I misplaced ?
> 
> I looked at smex, mac.archive and bongo.cc.utexas
> 
> Thanks for your help !
> 
> Martin G Cormier
> cormm00@dmi.usherb.ca
> 
> ====================
> VIVE LE QUEBEC LIBRE
> ====================

If I'm not mistaken, you can get Nisus updaters and some interesting macros
by
anon ftp to weber.ucsd.edu

But Martin, I don't know how politically and economically free a "QUEBEC
LIBRE"
would be.

Bertrand Limoges, Sobeco Ernst & Young Inc., Montreal, Canada

My opinions, not those of my employer.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: smargari@nmsu.edu (Susan Margarit)
Subject: Re: How does Autodoubler perform on a Powerbook?
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<BxCp3A.84u@access.digex.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:25:43 GMT

> Gripe here about Autodoubler... 55 megabytes is *NOT* what I call
"double"

Yeah! and it really pisses me off when the Swedish Bikini Team fails
to show up when I open a beer! 

My powerbook 20M drive gets an extra 12M from autodoubler and I'm glad
to have it. It doesn't compress anything in the system folder so
there's over 5M that it doesn't even touch. I put a 'don't compress'
on the think reference database which is 2.2M because it is too slow
to open with AD. So, 12.8M becomes 24.8M. That comes pretty close to
doubling what it has to work with.

Jim Margarit (smargari@nmsu.edu)
From: loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: music dictionary programs
Date: 6 Nov 1992 20:21:10 -0500
Organization: staff hacker @ Yale Haskell project
Distribution: comp
NNTP-Posting-Host: functor.systemsz.cs.yale.edu

Are there any other classical music dictionary programs other than the
Tunefinder hypercard stack that was recently posted in the archive?
After fiddling with Tunefinder a bit, I've decided it's only of
limited use because it doesn't have a means to play back the melodies
it knows about in the proper key and rhythm (or even show the melody
in normal music notation so I can play it myself).  Anyway, the lack
of such a feature makes it difficult to verify that it's found the
right tune, or to browse through melodies it thinks are "close" to the
one you were looking for.

Please reply via e-mail, since I don't always have time to read this
newsgroup before things expire.

Thanks.

-Sandra (loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: dent@DIALix.oz.au (Andrew Dent)
Subject: Re: Autodoubler & other transparent compression progs
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 00:21:25 GMT

In <0105010A.hr7721@salient.com> HarriRehnberg@salient.com (Salient Software) writes:
>I agree. In retrospect, AutoDoubler 1.0 could have benefited from
>another month of beta testing. But at the time, the bug reports from
>our 100+ beta testers had stopped coming in. So we decided to ship
>in January.

>Although most of the 'bugs' were really INIT conflicts, that's no
>excuse for not finding them before shipping. I think the real problem
>is that there are just too many INITs to adequately cover with a few
>hundred beta testers.

>What's the solution? I honestly don't know.
How about something like a bunch of Macs running Frontier scripts to generate
test combinations of inits (just drag EVERYHING off info-mac). You could leave
it going for a week or two and probably encounter more weird combos this way.

Andy Dent (A.D. Software - Mac & VAX programming)
94 Bermuda Dve, BALLAJURA  Western Australia  6066
Phone/Fax: 09 249 2719 (local)  +619 249 2719 (International)
       Internet: dent@DIALix.oz.au    Compuserve: 100033,3241

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: wahlstro@monkfish.nosc.mil (Tim Wahlstrom)
Subject: Wanted English->Italian Dictionary
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:19:47 GMT

I am looking for an English->Italian Italian->English Dictionary for
the Mac.  I have looked at both Sumex-Aim and Umich.  Any suggestions?
E-mail replies preferred.

"What is the greatest joy?         Tim_Wahlstrom@inri.com
The joy of duty!"
-Buckaroo Banzai
Emilio Lizzardo and 
Red 'Lectrodes at YoYodyne
From: dave@prc.unisys.com (David Lee Matuszek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Is there a fix for FullWrite/HP DeskWriter incompatibility?
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:01:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: gvl.1992Nov5.160131.5547
Organization: Paoli Research Center - Paoli, PA


On my recommendation, a friend of mine just bought an HP DeskWriter.
Unfortunately it now turns out that the DeskWriter is partially
incompatible with his el cheapo word processing program, FullWrite.
He says that letters come out "ectomorphic," not true, rich blacks.

He had previously had some problems printing from this program on his
old ImageWriter, mostly letter-spacing problems.

For the present he is reading his documents into MacWrite (either 4.2
or 4.5, I'm not sure which) and doing the necessary reformatting.
Does anyone know of a fix (or better workaround) for this?  Spending a
lot of money for a better word processor is not presently an option.

I suspect that FullWrite, being a port, doesn't properly use the 13
"bottleneck" QuickDraw routines, and that is the source of the
problems.  If so, it would seem that a real fix is very unlikely...but
I thought I'd ask.

E-mail preferred; I just can't keep up.  Thanks.


-- 
"The majority of the stupid is invincible and guaranteed for all time.
The terror of their tyranny, however, is alleviated by their lack of
consistency."      -- Albert Einstein
From: myke@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (Michael Dautermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: check mac.archive.umich.edu  Re: looking for StripFonts on the Mac
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Date: 13 Nov 1992 01:37:02 -0500
Organization: We're from the government, ma'am
Distribution: na
Expires: 12/10/92
NNTP-Posting-Host: terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu
Summary: strip fonts?
Keywords: strip, fonts, pd, shareware, ftp, archive

In article <tdboyce-111192133542@lloyd-at1.caltech.edu> tdboyce@cco.caltech.edu (Tom Boyce) writes:
>Does anyone know where the Mac app version "StripFonts" can be found? I've
>poked around in the standard archive sites but can't seem to find it. 

  

do you mean this?

/mac/system.extensions/cdev/pstrimmer1.01.cpt.hqx
  23      2/2/92    BinHex4.0,Compact1.33

   Handy control panel to control the size and compatability of
   Print-to-PostScript files. Allows you to select which fonts to
   include/exclude (with font type, such as PS or TrueType), and
   whether or not you want to append the LaserWriter header.

or this? 
 
/mac/util/unix/stripfonts.shar
  42     8/16/92    UnixShar

  Handy UNIX package that strips the font definitions from Mac
  generated PostScript files for error-free printing on UNIX systems.

both these files are available on mac.archive.umich.edu....
  
hope that helps


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: parkyn@fraser.sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn)
Subject: Re: How does Autodoubler perform on a Powerbook?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:18:34 GMT

I use AD 1.0.7i on a PowerBook 140 40 MB HD.

It works well enough... The latest version 2.x has some desirable features.

The most noticeable AD effect is decompression while starting Word 5.0a.

I can't provide a comparison between startup with/without AD but do notice
that the use of 'Change', 'Spelling' and other actions will cause AD to
decompress 'modules' of Word each time a feature is used.

AD does work well and increased effective size of the 40MB HD to ~55MB.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: lwwarpup@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Lonnie W. Warpup)
Subject: PageMaker 4.2 Questions
Summary: A few questions before ordering PageMaker 4.2
Keywords: TrueType PostScript EPS PS LaserWriter LS Questions
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 20:32:02 GMT

I am interested in producing some brochures for my friend's business
using PageMaker 4.2, but first I need a few questions answered.

1.  If I create a document using my IIsi w/System 7.1, Personal LW LS,
    and TrueType fonts, and then switch to the LaserWriter driver and
    create a PostScript file, could my friend print that PostScript file
    from his Plus and original LaserWriter?  BTW:  He is running System
    4.2 (don't ask me why, he says he has had problems upgrading with
    his existing software).

2.  What kind of things WON'T I be able to do because I have a Personal
    LW LS?

-- 
--
Lonnie W. Warpup                :   Oakland University
lwwarpup@vela.acs.oakland.edu   :   Rochester, Michigan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.system
From: Jonathan A. Duke <jonathan@hermes.bc.edu>
Subject: Re: Font Editor
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A727CBD275010508@ipmc08.bc.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 12 Nov 92 08:52:34 GMT
Organization: Boston College
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:57:26 GMT

Subject: Font Editor
From: Paul Harris, harpchon@anu.edu.au
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:42:47 GMT
In article <1dprv7INNs7n@manuel.anu.edu.au> Paul Harris,
harpchon@anu.edu.au writes:
>I am looking for an editor that will enable me to create my own fonts. I
have seen
>icon editors, but have never come across a font editor. Does such an
application 
>exist? Where can I find such an editor?
>
>Regards, Paul

You have two choices for creating Postscript or TrueType fonts:
Fontographer 3.5.x
from Altsys or FontStudio 2.x from Letraset.  

Both, I believe, are available from MacConnection.

For bitmap fonts, Fontastic from Altsys is available on the commercial
side.  I've
never had much success with the shareware/pd editors (the names of which
escape me
right now).

Jon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: parkyn@fraser.sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn)
Subject: Re: How does Autodoubler perform on a Powerbook?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:36:12 GMT

I do not speak for Salient, the makers of Auto- DiskDoubler...

Upon checking I find the following regarding AD and PowerBook:

Normal HD capacity is "enlarged" from 40.0 to 61.0 MB (AD's control panel) and
about 9.2 MB of 'stuff' is not compressed. AD, by design, does not compress the
system folder contents. Of the 9.2MB uncompressed, the System folder accounts
for 7.9MB.

Checking the hard drive's 'Finder' window indicates that 36.8 MB used and
3.1 MB free. I don't know any way to determine the actual decompressed size
of everything on the HD. Anyone know how to find this? (It can be useful with
archived items - will the decompressed ARCHIVE fit on that floppy?)

Regarding "Doubler" concept... I suspect that only a data drive (anything
not System related) would possibly approach 100% increase in capacity.

Oh... 40.0 --> 61.0 is an increase of 52.5%... Enough to allow the use
of PageMaker 4.2a, Excel 3a,4, Word 5.0a, HyperCard 2.1, MacLink Translators,
SuperPaint, numerous utilities (On Location is a favourite!), CompuServe 
Information Manager, ARA, etc.

Dale 
parkyn@sfu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Distribution: world
From: bo3b@ultramac.uucp (Bob Overkamp)
Organization: Odyssey Ultraware, Inc
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 07:20:16 CDT
Subject: Re: Formula entry in Word 5.0a

Stan asks:
>I am a new Word user. The manual has helped me learn how to enter formulas
>involving the sigma sign (sums) and other things, but what about means? How
>can I enter a variable or quantity and get a bar symbol over it?
>
An overbar is even easier than sigma signs or integrals; use the "box"
feature, modified to draw the top only. For example, to get "x bar equals
3.14", type
.\x.\to(x) = 3.14
.\x means draw a box
.\to means draw just the top of the box
(and by the way .\ means to type Option-Command-Backslash)

bo3b