From: khan@ces.cwru.edu (Mansoor Khan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Elite ..... My Foot!
Date: 9 Jan 1993 20:46:26 GMT
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University
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Nadeem Jamali writes....

>In article <1il69oINNosn@shelley.u.washington.edu> shamshoo@shelley.u.washington.edu (Shams Hasan) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan8.155423.11614@newton.ccs.tuns.ca> jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali) writes:
>
>.... (previous postings deleted)
>
>>>
>>>Not to suggest that Jam Sadiq Ali or his son Mashooq are not corrupt. The
>>>fact remains that Jam Sadiq's father Jam Kambhu Khan was the richest man in
>>>Sindh. Jam Sadiq never needed any money of any kind... and I'm sure his
>>>son doesn't either.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mansoor Khan
>>>>Cleveland
>>>>>					Saqib Mausoof 
>>>>
>>>Nadeem
>>>-- 
>>>Nadeem Jamali                                     jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca
>>>						 
>>>School of Computer Science			  
>>>Technical University of Nova Scotia		  (902)420-7527  
>>
>>Dear Nadeem,
>>
>>If Jam Sadiq never needed any money, what was his accomplishments in the
>>public service ? May be you can throw some light on that. I think you seem
>>to have an inside track on the backgrounds of Vaderaas/Zamindaars.
>>
>>Also, while you are responding, please allow us the knowledge of where did
>>the richest man in Sind made his wealth and if you know, how ?
>>
>>I think many of us would like to know and may benefit by it. 
>

>The family has been rich for generations... so it is not right to say that
>they became rich by bungling Government money. As regards how they 
	OK, they did not need the government money, but why did they 
	take  it. Why all these khandani riches are so greedy.
	What is the limit to their desire for wealth.
	WHy did he take rishvats if he did not need money. 
	Any Analysis?


>initially became rich, before trying to answer this question I'll question
>its pertinence. Do we challenge people's right to be rich? We aren't communists
>are we? Similarly Sir Shahnawaz Bhutto was a rich person himself. These people
>had palacious houses before Z.A. Bhutto ever joined politics. Au contraire,
>people like Ghulam Mustafa Jatoi were no body before taking public office.
>I know this family a little bit more than others do. Ghulam Mustafa used to
>stand outside tapedars' offices with boxes of mangoes. Look at the progress
>they've made :)

Jatoi is a strange dude. He has been with PPP, against PPP, with PPP,
against PPP, with PPP........ and it goes on.


>What happenned to Karachi's parks? well, go ask the Jamaat-e-Islami. They
>were controlling KMC weren't they?
	I am not sure if KMC was being managed by jamat-e-islami in 1970's.
	It is 1970's, during Zulfiqar Bhutto's rule, that Jam Sadiq as
	Sindh's Vazeer-e-Baldiyaat sold parks etc. for plazas and apt. buildings	An example is a huge plot of land, which was marked as a park
	and sports ground, between M.A. Jinnah Road and Jamshed Road,
	before the Jail and after Islamia College and Dawood College,
	and across M.A.J. Road from Muslimabad.
	It is close to where Green Wood, Little Folks, and Grand Folks
	school used to be. In early 1970's it used to be the
	PARAAO of khanaa-badoshs every year in winter time( I guess) for
	a short while. No more park there. No more Cricket ground there.
	Only apt. buildings and houses. Thanks to the Jam of whatever.
	One reason of all this bullshit going on in Karachi in last
	several years is the lack of sports and recreation facilities
	for the kids and youth. Instead of parks and play grounds
	they play on streets, get killed by car or a minibus driven
	by some poor driver..... and here we go, we have riots.
	>
>
>

Mansoor Khan
Cleveland, Ohio 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan