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From: gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Don Gillies)
Subject: Re: paper for DeskJet printers
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 07:55:51 GMT

This information is from Paul.Antaki@mtsg.ubc.ca and also from Don
Gillies <gillies@cs.uiuc.edu>.

Here is a summary of the responses I received in regard to my question
about paper for the HP DeskWriter/Deskjet. I've chosen only to list
the papers that provide good to excellent results. Thanks to all who
responded.
 
*Pro-Tech paper is great but it's not made anymore.
*Try getting samples for a wide variety of papers to see which ones work better.
*There may be quality differences between different batches of the
 same paper, especially if it's recycled
*Whisper Wove provides excellent results but is expensive (7 cents/sheet)
*Weyerhaeuser First Choice (24#) provides good to excellent results
*Endurance XDP "High speed Xerographic" was said to provide good results
*Xerox 4200 DP paper (20#) works well for text but gets saturated with graphics
*Jet Paper Company distributes paper that works specifically in ink-jet
 printers (like the DeskWriter). Their address is:
 
	Box 305
	East Cambridge, MA  02141
	FAX: (617) 394-0823
	Orders: (800) 235-4538
	Support: (617) 394-0820
 
*Cross Point Halopaque Vellum?GOOD-EXCELLENT 24lb?$9/ream
 Howard Paper Vellum Text?GOOD-EXCELLENT 28#?$13/ream
 Recycled papers have shorter fibers and bleed more; the worst paper
 is probably "EarthCare Minimum Impact", an unbleached 100%
 post-consumer paper (but it is fine for 150dpi previewing).
 "Earthcare" offers about a dozen types of paper, in ream / envelope /
 notecard form:

	Earth Care Paper, Inc.
	P.O. Box 7070
	Madison, WI 53707
	608-277-2900

*Xerox 5400 paper provides excellent results when used on the "back" side.
*Hammermill  Savings DP 50% recycled paper is very good
*XEROX 4024 was recommended by one respondent
*Classic Laid and Classic Crest provide excellent results but are expensive

The "#" (lb) rating of a paper is the actual weight of a ream of 11*17
paper; it is a measure of the thickness of the paper.  A problem with
the deskwriter/deskjet is that even small areas of black or dark grey
will causes the paper to pucker, unless the paper is sufficiently
thick, so that ink cannot soak all the way through.  Most cheapo copy
paper is 18# or 20# (this is the minimum weight to avoid jamming a
machine).  Stick to paper weighing 24# or 28# or more per ream to
avoid puckering on large dark halftone images.  In general, 18# and
20# paper does not produce nice results in an inkjet printer.

I should also add one additional thing. I've received many responses
and I've seen some posted that recommended trying both sides of the
paper. From my experience with literally, dozens of types of paper,
I can confidently say that I haven't found the 'right' side to be
significantly better. If one side of the paper didn't work well, then
the other side usually didn't work well.

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From: mollett@ms.uky.edu (Vic Mollett)
Subject: Re: cheap more-than-300dpi lasers
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:58:13 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Bytes: 

In article <92099.152121PXP8@psuvm.psu.edu> <PXP8@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Let's face it.  To anyone who looks closely, even 300-dpi laser quality
>print is notably ragged.  What is the outlook for 600dpi, 1200 dpi or even

Lexmark manufactures a line of printers which support true 600x600dpi
resolution at a very good price.  The printers are sold as the IBM 4029
models 6, 10, 10L (and a couple of new variations that I don't recall the 
models).  These printers were named PC magazine editor's choice.  If you
prefer 300x300 resolution, these printers also have PQET in the 300x300
mode (PQET=print quality enhancement technology -- based on some research
done by IBM in the '60s).  Check 'em out.


>--Peter Parisi, Humanities Division, Penn State Harrisburg


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From: gmf2@quads.uchicago.edu (gary michael feldman)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Which Epson for my Dad?
Date: 11 Apr 92 03:16:25 GMT
Reply-To: gmf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

Hi.  Question for my dad.  He has an old XT-type by Zenith
and uses Wordpefect 5.1 for DOS.  He needs a simple but
effective printer, preferably inexpensive.  

Someone recommended the Epson 570 to him.  Any comments
on this printer?  Given my father's non-computer literacy  etc.
I think he would do best with a non-tractor feed printer.
I don't know if 570 is tractor or not.

Recently there was an ad in NEwsweek for  a new Epson printer for
home, the 3280 (?).  It's cartridge loading, which would be
good, and even says it has scaleable fonts.  

Any recommendations?

(PS I have a Deskjet 500 which he may eventually get, but
if there's an Epson that's almost as good and a lot cheaper,
I'll tell him to get that.  Bascially, he doesn't need
laser-quality).

Gary
From: intolabb@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steven Intolubbe)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: Connecting QMS Kiss Plus to Mac SE/30
Date: 7 Apr 92 10:47:17 GMT
Reply-To: intolabb@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steven Intolubbe)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


    A few years ago I had a serial Laserwriter driver that may have
worked and I am going to try to dig it up again (I got it from
Washington Apple Pi users group) but it may take a while even if
they still have it.

				  steve
From: dengland@moritz.intel.Com (David England~)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Need INFO on Deskjet 500c emulators
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:53:26 GMT
Reply-To: dengland@moritz.intel.com
Organization: Intel Corporation
Originator: dengland@moritz


Hi,
	I have a DESKJET 500C printer and am quite pleased with the results
it gives.  However, I have one problem with it.  My children have some
programs, (such as Learning Tree's Writing and Publishing Center), that do not
support the deskjet.  In fact all they support are dot matrix printers such
as Epson.  My question is, is there any software or hardware that is available
that would emulate an Epson printer on the deskjet?  Even if it only printed
black and white in Epson mode, it would be useful, although full color 
emulation would be ideal.

Thanks for any replies.
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From: elmar@knipp.en.open.de (Elmar Knipp)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: Good Postscript-RIP for CANON COLOR LASER COPIER 300 ?
Keywords: CANON postscript RIP
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:28:08 GMT
Organization: Private/FRG

ernst@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker) writes:

>Hallo,

>can anybody recommend a good PostScript-RIP for the Canon Color Laser Copier
>300? I am working for some architects who recently purchased such a machine
>with a Canon Rip F 231700 (I don't know, if that's the correct name, that
>number is on a little sticker on the back of the RIP). They want to use the
>setup to print out brochures including scanned color images and CAD-drawings.

>They are not really happy with what they have now, because apperently the
>RIP refuses to work with certain color images and also the color quality
>and resolution is not as good as the copier manages when just copying.

>As I understand color copiers they have a scanner and a printer built in,
>so the output quality when just printing should be higher than when copying (
>scanning and printing). So I assume the RIP isn't doing a proper job here.

>Am I right here and does anybody know of any better RIP for the Canon 300 ?

>If there isn't any better RIP for this machine, does anybody know of a better
>color printer (A3) ?
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I just get the EfI-fiery RIP for the Canon CLC 500. It should
also work on the CLC 300 in 2nd quarter 1992 (on CeBIT it
was demonstratet with Agfa 300 (= Cannon CLC 300)). 
The German distributor is SOFHA in Berlin.

Pictures were printed with half-tone-sreening != rastering, so
you get excellent quality.

Elmar

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From: janus@ux.acs.umn.edu (Louis Janus)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: HP LaserJet IIIp with legal paper
Summary: need help with this
Date: 10 Apr 92 21:23:26 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

I have a new HP LaserJetIIIp, 2 meg, appletalk, post-script
cartridge.  I want to use legal pages (8.5 x 14 in).  I have
told "page setup" and the control panels on the printer
that I want this, but when it prints, it chops off the top
inch or so of text and then stops about 2.5 or 3 inches from
the bottom.  
Sorry if this has been discussed before.  Would appreciate
help before I call HP or my dealer.

Louis Janus
janus @ ux. acs. umn. edu
U of Minnesota Scandinavian Dept
From: heiland@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (david.j.heiland)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Epson Action Printer
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:18:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

I've seen the ads for the new Epson 3250 Action Printer - the 24 pin,
250cps printer with paper tray and a sleek design - but I haven't seen
any reviews of it anywhere?  Has anyone seen this printer or a review
of it?  For ~$225 it seems like a good deal.

Dave Heiland   djh@neptune.att.com
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: nnsaj01@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Venkat Ajjanagadde)
Subject: Printing to Apple II NTX
Keywords: printcap entry, input filter
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:31:52 GMT


We are trying to print postscript files from our Sun Sparc station to
an Apple Laser Writer II NTX (via the serial port). One problem we are having
is that even after finishing printing a job, the printer still keeps flashing
the busy signal. Another problem (which I presume is related to the previous
one) is that sometimes when a job consists of multiple pages, the printer
does not print the last page.

Could someone out there who is printing from SUNs to Apple II NTX please 
mail me the printcap entry and input filter (s)he is using?
Thanks very much.
--Venkat
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P.S. Sorry for bothering with the above,  what must be a  simple, problem. 
Unfortunately, we are not experienced with this kind of stuff and the locally
available help did not solve the problem.
The printcap entry we are currently using is:
 lw1|lp:\
       :lp=/dev/ttya:br#9600:\
       :ms=-parity,cs7,ixon,ixoff,ocrnl:\
       :sd=/usr/spool/lpd/lw1:\
       :lf=/usr/spool/lpd/lw1/lw1-log:\
       :rw:\
       :sh:
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: nagel@Cigna.COM (Mark Nagel)
Subject: request for list of reliable high-capacity/throughput printers
Organization: CIGNA FIRST, Irvine, CA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:03:52 GMT

We are looking for a _highly reliable_, high-capacity printer (at
least 2000 pages in and out unattended) with a throughput of 20+
pages per minute when printing PostScript documents.  We've already
explored several printers (QMS, Talaris) as well as received
recommendations for others (IBM, DEC).  We have set our sites a bit
higher and might want something like the Xerox printer that does 33
ppm (around $50K).  Are there any other printers at that level that
I should know about?  Both recommendations for and against will be
appreciated.  Thanks...

Mark
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri)
Subject: Re: using terminals printerport
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 03:01:35 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>#!/bin/sh
>echo ^[\[5i
>cat $*
>echo ^[\[4i
>exit 0

>Something like that ought to work for you -- the "^[" is an escape
>character (1B hex), and you'll have to use vi's ^V command or EMACS ^Q
>to insert it into the file.

Embedding nonprintables in scripts isn't a great idea.  Think about what
happens when you cat or more the script on a variety of terminals.  I've
had things like that throw my GIGI into ReGIS mode.

A program called "lit" was posted to comp.sources.something a few years
ago -- it's in the spirit of echo, but makes sending nonprintables much
more convenient.  It allows, for example, reassignment of its own escape
character, saving painful interactions with the shell's own escaping.
I use @.  Sending ESC becomes

lit -e@ @e


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From: Sanjay.Gupta@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Sanjay Gupta)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: For Sale New Okidata ML321 (Made in Japan) Printer
Date: 12 Apr 92 01:22:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: samba.1992Apr12.012235.5673
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

Hi !
For Sale : A New Okidata Microline 321  (132 Col.) Printer....Made in Japan.
Front panel (membrane) controls.....very silent. Store Price $500 +. Give me
your best offers......


Internet: sgupta@picasso.ocis.temple.edu

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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Don Gillies)
Subject: Re: cheap more-than-300dpi lasers
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 07:38:13 GMT

Next's laser printer, at 400*400 dpi, is visibly superior to 300dpi.
With 300 dpi, diagonal 1/2 point lines are visibly wider than
horizontal or vertical lines.  Halftones look awful on a 300dpi
printer.  We need 400dpi or more.  It's too bad the industry has
standardized on 300dpi.

- Don
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From: <FNOTMAN@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: paper for DeskJet printers
Distribution: usa
 <15APR199216510495@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>

 I live in Holland so we tend to have different paper suppliers, but I get
acceptably good results from Scaldia Plux Xerogrphy paper. The cheaper "Rapid
Print" paper (as well as curving too much for IBM 38xx printers to handle,
though L-jets have no problems) is distinctly worse. The excessive curveing
in 38xx would imply a higher moisture content, that implies a more absorbent
paper. Further, the Xerography paper has much less grain.

 So, in summary, the rule is low moisture meaning low absorbency, and fine
grained smooth. Clay coated does work well, but I belive the cost outweighs
the gains.
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.graphics,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: brandt@cco.caltech.edu (William N. Brandt)
Subject: HELP! Want to print VGA graphics dumps on an IBM Proprinter II
Summary: HELP! Want to print VGA graphics dumps on an IBM Proprinter II
Keywords: printers
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 23:54:37 GMT


Hi,

I own a 386 MSDOS IBM standard computer with a NEC VGA monitor and would
like to be able to do graphics screen dumps onto my IBM Proprinter II. For
example, I would like to be able to create a Turbo Pascal .EXE file which
produces graphics and would then like to be able to print the graphics
by pressing Shift-Print Screen.

Has anyone out there solved this problem? Is there a FTP site which
has a program which allows people to do this? If you could respond
via email I would be grateful.

Thank you,
Niel Brandt  brandt@jomby.caltech.edu 

P.S. I know a program called EGAPRO exists which does this for EGA monitors
     but it does not work with VGA monitors.
From: IFF291@DJUKFA11.BITNET (Stephan Petersen)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Help: 80x25 color screen hardcopy on HP PaintJet
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:25:38 GMT
Organization: KFA  Forschungszentrum Juelich



I need to print out a screen hardcopy (Textmode 80x25, color!) on a HP
PaintJet-compatible printer (DEC LA520). How do I get the printout (on
overheadfilm) big & nice enough?? The standard printscreen routine
doesn't print in color, and if I save the textscreen to a file and
convert it to a PCX image or something like that, the printout is just
too small. If I enlarge it, the quality gets too bad.


Are there any PaintJet printer drivers / hardcopy routines to replace
the standard printscreen routine?

Is there any program that lets you convert a saved textmode screen to a
_real big_ graphics image, so that the resulting printout is big enough?

Did anybody else find a decent workaround for this problem?

Any help is appreciated!


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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 18:04:32 CDT
From: Rich Chong <U41602@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: PCL6?

I just had a brainstorm! The HP Laserjet III series has its new
Resolution Enhancment Technology (RET) which basically automatically
alters the size of the print dot and its location within the 1/300"
square. All done internally without much control from the outside.
Used to smooth out the jaggies. Anyways, one of the biggest problems
in printing quality pictures with a laserjet is the low resolution
of 300dpi. You don't want to use RET with printing pictures because
you don't want to smooth out stuff in a real picture. But the technology
is just ripe for producing real honest to goodness half-tones!
I envision a PCL6 where there is a new graphic format which allows one
to specify a downloading not only a compressed raster bitmap, but
to also specify halftone information as well. Where the application can
specify how many halftone-level information bits accompany the actual
bit (i.e.  1,2,3,4 corresponding to 2,4,8, or 16 halftone levels)
information. Yes, memory consumption can more than quadruple, and
processor speeds must be beefed up to not be overrun by the laserbeam,
but it would be well worth it.
I hereby state that HP or others can use this technology of mine in
exchange for an end product with all the dressings.
Oh yeah, they also have to call it Resolution Image Consistant Halftone
(RICH) technology ;-).  You're all my witnesses this day April 9, 1992. ok?
So what do you all think?     Rich Chong
From: parny@milton.u.washington.edu (Philip Arny)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Need help w/Star Gemini 10 dip switches
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:38:40 GMT
Reply-To: parny@u.washington.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I just got an old Star Gemini 10 printer to play with.  A couple of questions:

There's a 4 switch dip switch on the back.  What do the various switch
settings control?

What are the basic control codes for this printer?  A copy of the relevant
pages from a manual would be wonderful, but, barring that -- what's the
code to switch to the NLQ print that shows up on the test printout and back
to draft again?

Thanks much

Philip Arny
parny@u.washington.edu
From: gmf2@quads.uchicago.edu (gary michael feldman)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: Postscript for DJ...?
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:56:23 GMT
Reply-To: gmf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <2260009@hppad.waterloo.hp.com> rypma@hppad.waterloo.hp.com (Ted Rypma) writes:
>
>> Somebody please answer for me this:
>> 
>> Is it possible (cartridge, program, whatever) to print Postscript
>> with the Deskjet 500.
>
>Use gnu ghostscript. Supports DJ500 / 500C. Price is right.
>Can be compiled for Unix (various flavours) or DOS.
>

Where can one get this program?
Also, for DOS, will it give you postcript fonts with DOS
programs suchs as Wordperfect?

Also, what kind of speed are we talking?  SLower than the
DJ500 scaleable driver for widnows???

Gary
From: gfd@megatel.de (Olaf Reins)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs
Subject: CIPHER ST 150 S2/90
Date: 15 Apr 92 06:30:07 GMT
Reply-To: gfd@megatel.de  (Olaf Reins)
Organization: megatel GmbH, Bremen, Germany

Hi,

I don't know if this is the right group to ask in, but nevertheless:

I'm looking for some documentation (or a manual) on a 
CIPHER ST 150 S2/90 streamer. Any hints appreciated.

Please answer by email, as I don't have access to this newsgroup.

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Newsgroups: comp.periphs
From: sonny@charybdis.harris-atd.com (Bob Davis)
Subject: IS there a better newsgroup than this for SCSI questions?
Reply-To: sonny@trantor.harris-atd.com (Bob Davis)
Organization: Advanced Technology Dept., Harris ESS, Melbourne, FL
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 16:25:54 GMT

	If so, please e-mail since my news feed runs 5 days behind!
Post if you wish, but please e-mail also.

	Thanks
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs
From: rfpfeifl@watcgl.waterloo.edu (Ron Pfeifle)
Subject: optical mice
Organization: Computer Graphics Laboratory, University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:26:50 GMT

Does anyone know of an optical mouse manufacturer in North America
(telephone number)?  I already know that Mouse Systems makes them.  Know of
anyone else?  (please e-mail to rfpfeifle@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca).

Thanks
Ron

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