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From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: PROOF THAT LOST IN SPACE WAS BETTER (Promos for: SCHISMS (#231))
Summary: The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:37:13 GMT
Reply-To: tjw+@Pitt.edu
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc,alt.folklore.urban
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

> Here is the promo copy (announcer):

> WITHOUT WARNING AND NO EXPLANATION, AN EXPERIMENT IN TERROR HAS BEGIN.
> 
>   [ A patient collapses and Bev catches her ]
>   [ Worf recoils from Mr. Mott's scissors ]
>   [ Geordi, Riker and aliens in a holodeck room ]

> Short promo:
>   The crew of the Enterprise become helpless victims of deadly
>   alien experiments, on Star Trek: The Next Generation.

BLEAH!  Make me ill!  Here is absolute proof that LOST IN SPACE WAS BETTER!

Next week on the next generation we will hear Mr Data say:

        "DANGER! DANGER! WESLEY CRUSHER!" as sparks fly from his finger!
        
Terry "If you Give Mr. Data an ALKASELTZER, he explodes" Wood

PS: The best part of "Relics" is that Troi has next to no lines.

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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Points of view
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:54:32 GMT

tatlow@dash.lmo.dec.com (Tom Tatlow) sez:

>The other big POV issue I've been thinking about has to do with the
>turbolifts.  Occasionally, we (the camera) are with people waiting
>for a turbolift and when the turbolift arrives, there's already
>someone inside (this happened in TAI, for example).  However, I
>can't recall a single occasion where "we" are in the turbolift and
>it stops to let someone in.  Has this ever happened?

Possibly the turbolifts give higher priority to the command staff, who
are (by some strange coincidence) the people we most often see in
elevators.  The elevators might simply ignore requests by persons
greatly lower in rank than the passenger... that is, if Picard is going
to the bridge, and Crewman Third Class Joe Blow tries to intercept the
elevator, the computer will simply make Crewman Blow wait for the next
one.

(purely speculation, i've never seen anything like this theory before.)
-- 
What did Dan Quayle get on his IQ test? 
                                             Drool.
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From: jcomer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan C Comer)
Subject: Re: Radio Shack lives in the 24th century!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:27:55 GMT

rfd@po.CWRU.Edu (Richard F. Drushel) wrote:

>>
>>   In the "Star Trek: The Next Generation Technical Manual",
>>page 120, is *proof* that Radio Shack is still making electronics
>>in the 24th century!  Look at the picture of the tricorder:  It says:
>>
>>   TRS80 TRICORDER VII
>>
>>Your humble TRASH-80 computer has evolved into a tricorder :) :)
>>
>>Small spoiler:
>>
>>Actually, the number is TR580, but you have to look *really* close.
>>                          ^

pip@pro-freedom.ctc.com (David Pipgras) then sarcastically replied:

>
>Wrongo! Take another look....
>
>For those who are looking, on Page 120, there is a sketch of an open
>tricorder, and on the very botton of the picture to the right side, there
>is a box that states the name and info. It reads:
>
>TR580 TRICORDER VII
>  ^
>
>That is a "5" as in FIVE, not an "S"....
>

Evidently, Mr. Pipgras was in too big of a hurry to actually read Mr. Drushel's
entire post before flaming him.
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From: jv@irus.rri.uwo.ca (Jeffrey Verhagen)
Subject: Re: Kirk's Middle Name -- now it CAN be told!
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:21:19 GMT

In article <7785@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> tjw+@pitt.edu writes:
>In article <9210160334.AA02166@cabell.vcu.edu>, bio1edr@cabell.vcu.edu (Erica D. Rodgers) writes:
>
>> To those folks who posted followups to Kirk vs Picard and speculated
>> on Kirks middle name:  It is a T and it stands for TIBERIUS!  If you
>> recall from ST6, it was announced at his trial with the klingons.  It
>> is NOT Ted, or Roy or any such thing.  It was mentioned in several
>> episodes and the movies.
>
>What do Klingons know?  James "T" Kirk always lied to them every chance
>he got.  I'm sure his middle name is actually "Terry".
>
>Terry "J" Wood

Now now, stop this nonsense; everyone knows it used to be "Rover" but
during the mission Kirk got tired of the embarrassment of having been
given a dogs' name, so he changed it to something that he felt would be
more appropriate; in this case - "Tiddlywink". That explains the "R"
on the tombstone in the 1st or 2nd episode, but his middle initial is 
given as a "T" in later episodes.

diagrammatic example:
 
          James "Rover" Kirk + embarrassment
becomes ->James "Tiddlywink" Kirk (+ embarrassment)

think about it,
Jeff T. Verhagen
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From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: Enlisted Ranks (was O'Brien's Rank)
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:13:23 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.214433.14329@m.cs.uiuc.edu> friedman@m.cs.uiuc.edu (if ($term == t9) echo -n 'GK(H. G. Friedman is signed on.)') writes:
>In all this chat about O'Brien's rank, there is one viewpoint that I have
>not seen mentioned:  GR's assertion that there are NO enlisted ranks in
>Star Fleet.  I believe this was mentioned in David Gerrold's 1973 book
>"The World of Star Trek", but I won't swear to it.

However, in the TNG episode "The Drumhead", there was one person who
was explicitly an enlisted man.

There may not have been enlisted crewmembers in ST Classic, but there
sure are in TNG.
-- 
'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
Subject: Re: Trek audioclip package for win3.1
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 09:17:09 GMT

lawson@mdc.com writes:
>I just purchased Star Trek Audioclips Volume 1 "The Logical Collection"
>at Egghead software for $32.00. It contains about 2 meg of wave files
>for windows 3.1 and "Whoop it up" for windows to assign those wave
>files to windows programs, system and generic events. 

Well, don't just leave us hanging, give us a fer instance!

Does it play snippets equivalent to "Illogical ensign. Odors
do not travel through the vacuum of space."

Maybe I should put together my own collection with
the original sound effects. I'll license them to myself
for my own use. :)

-- 

bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)

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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Enlisted Ranks (was O'Brien's Rank)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 05:11:51 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.221323.9646@stsci.edu> wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:
>
>However, in the TNG episode "The Drumhead", there was one person who
>was explicitly an enlisted man.
>
>There may not have been enlisted crewmembers in ST Classic, but there
>sure are in TNG.

The first season had several "specialist 3rd class" etc., which I
believe is enlisted... there was also "Crewman Greene" in "The Man Trap"
(he was called "Crewman" several times.)  Rand was enlisted, as well as
most of the crewmen wearing jumpsuits.  A security squad of about a
half-dozen men was led by an ensign (Kirk used the phrase "your men".)
It's unlikely that they were all ensigns, since several of them were
significantly older than Ensign Garrovick (NCOs can be old... ensigns
are young.)

In the movies, the persons with white shoulders were enlisted, according
to the costumer's notes.  "Crewman" was also used in ST6.
-- 
What did Dan Quayle get on his IQ test? 
                                             Drool.
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From: jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell)
Subject: Re: Star Trek Mall
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 16:10:25 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <6947@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> billrey+@pitt.edu (William A Reynolds) writes:
>I was just wondering if anyone knew where one might purchase the rank pins
>that are used in STTNG?  I saw an ad once, but I have since lost it. 
>Although I am excited about this mall store for Trek items, I need those
>items (rank pins) before the end of October... I'm sure you can guess why.
>Thanks in advance to any help!

On a semi-related note, Playmates (the toy company) advertized
recently on the back of Starlog for its updated line of ST:TNG
'toys', including the crew, Borg figures, the phaser (which has
been kicking around, but I've yet to see it in a store here), a
communicator pin...

But has anyone seen a tricorder that has all the blinkies? Like,
the LEDs that do the 'KITT' thing along the back surface, has all
the buttons painted, etc?

Joshua



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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Idea For Weapon
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date:  9 OCT 92 16:29:58    

In article <1992Oct7.092631.1401@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>, z_clarkmj@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes...

>In article <1992Oct6.152548.19383@ncsu.edu>, rhballan@eos.ncsu.edu (ROBERT HAMI BALLANTINE) writes:
>> 
>> I watched "Best of Both Worlds I" (again) last night
>> and came up with a good idea for a weapon to fight
>> the borg with during hand to hand.  Instead of using phasers
>> which can be adapted to, they should replicate some 20th
>> ccentury hand-guns or machine guns.  Let's see the borg
>> adapt to a .357 slug up their ass!
> 
>Good Idea! Or better yet, have data make an android that looks like
>Clint Eastwood that says only one thing when he meets a Borg:
>			" GO AHEAD. MAKE MY DAY!"
>Of course Clint will have a 44 magnum to back up his words.

I think they should throw big rocks at the Borg.  And hit them with 
sticks maybe too.

JGH
From: rmherrin@acs.ucalgary.ca (Robyn Meta Herrington)
Subject: Episode name needed
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 21:04:19 GMT
Distribution: worldwide
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Keywords: Troi, Data, O'Brien (what ever rank he may be)


For days now I've been trying to remember the name of the episode
where Troi, Data and O'Brien are taken over by the little blue
lights - all that's left of galactic criminals.

I know, I know - as soon as I send this, I'll remember the name.
So that the net doesn't get flooded, please e-mail me.

Thanks in advance.....

Robyn



-- 
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Microforms Department                       
University of Calgary
From: kfr@pro-freedom.cts.com (Kurt Roithinger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: German "Star Trek"
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:39:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Oct15.203921.2781
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

In <1992Oct15.124947.1892@abo.fi>
MLINDROOS@finabo.abo.fi (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:

>Could anyone explain to me why Star Trek has to be dubbed into a foreign
>language in the first place?! This is one of my pet peeves(sp), being in France
>or Germany on vacation and not being able to watch an American movie/TV 
>program because some bright soul has replaced the original soundtrack with 
>a French/German one.
>---
>In the Scandinavian countries, foreign movies are NEVER dubbed - only subtitles
>are used. This means that William Shatner speaks English here, Brigitte Bardot
>still speaks French in her classic films and that the extremely well-made
>German police series such as "Ein fall fuer zwei" or "Der Alte" (I feel sorry
>for the Americans who most likely don't get to see these) are 100% German
>language in Finland as well. The way it was MEANT to be because an actor's
>voice is an important part of the overall "piece of art" a TV movie represents.
>The only exception is films aimed at children under 8 years of age, these have
>to be dubbed because the audience hasn't learned to read yet! I don't think
>adult Germans or Frenchmen have the same excuse. 
>---
>I hope this doesn't sound like a flame directed at speakers of German etc..
>It's just that I think that the "big" nations on the Continent (France,
>Germany, Spain, Italy) are doing themselves a disservice by trying to make
>foreign (not just English-language) films sound more "home made" by replacing
>the soundtrack. Watching and LISTENING to foreign-language movies is one of 
>the best and easiest methods for learning a second language, Scandinavian kids
>are actively encouraged to brush up their English and German by watching movies
>with the subtitles blocked out (=an option on most modern TV sets). Of course,
>there are politics involved. The French seem to be particularly worried about
>American popular culture and English-language movies becoming more popular so 
>I guess they think everything becomes less "threatening" with a new 
>soundtrack.  
>
>MARCU$

Der Alte? Ein fall fuer zwei? 
keee-rist! they're showing those around the world now? ugh.
what's next - "tatort" or "Derrick"? (who knows if they're still being
made...)
jeez. you know why they dub movies and tv shows? $$$$$$. it's that simple.
it costs a lot more to subtitle (lots of work) then to dub (pay an actor to
read a script). at leasts thats how i remember it. if you watch some older
progrrams on german or austrian tv, you'll notice they're subtitled - it
seems someone had a bright idea in the early '60s and >poof!<. that was
that. i can't i ever complained.

ProLine:  kfr@pro-freedom
Internet: kfr@pro-freedom.cts.com
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==============================================================
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:43:17 EDT
From: <SMM130@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: st deep space nine


From what I have read from within one of the publications issued by the
Official Star Trek Fan Club, Deep Space Nine involves a space station around
the planet of Bajora (sp?), that becomes a critical Federation focal point
due to the emergence of a stable wormhole in the vicinity of the station.
There are going to be some transfers from the Enterprise to this station
which include Ensign Ro, Chief O'Brien (who is to become Chief of
Operations), and O'Brien's wife and daughter.  There is going to be a
Ferengi crew member as well as a member of the race described in "The Host"
episode of the TNG.  From what I understand, the dangers and drama will come
from interpersonal relationships aboard the station and anything that comes
to them through the wormhole.

Scoots.
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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: st:tmp and st:tng mus
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 10 Oct 92 19:00:05 EST

>It's the same theme, which comes in four basic arrangements:

>        * The Motion Picture (first)
>        * TNG, seasons 1 & 2 (faster tempo, nice strings)
>        * The Final Frontier (lots of brass! -- my favourite)
>        * TNG, season 3 onward (same tempo as TFF, but stiffer
>        cadence; redone/remixed somewhere along the way, not
>        so bad now)

I like the season 3 onward one MUCH better.  I really hated the season 1
& 2 ones because it had too many blaring brasses and it was played to
legatoy (sp?).  The new one now has the brass playing everything very
choppy and astute, making the theme sound much bolder.  And the bass
line that was thumped in the season 1 & 2 theme is gone too, which I'm
glad to hear.  If you watch those old episodes, wait for the commercial
break.  That 3 second interlude is TERRIBLE from season 1 & 2...

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Gary L. Dare
>> gld@cunixB.cc.columbia.EDU            Oct 26/92: Just say "OUI!"
>> gld@cunixc.BITNET                     (Let's worry about the economy!)

Bonjour, je m'apelle Jason Wong, et mon Canada.............  (blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah)  :-)


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Calling from Markham, Ontario CANADA.  It's not cold though!  :-)
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From: gt7994a@prism.gatech.EDU (ORMOND,SEAN PATRICK)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: FYI: Patrick Stewart to host space documentary on PBS
Date: 11 Oct 92 17:47:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

This may be old news, but PS is going to host a 6-part documentary
on space exploration - how appropriate.  In the Atlanta area it starts
on Monday on PBS and I think it's going to be a weekly thing.

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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Why is Wesley in Yesterday's Enterprise question
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:54:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.135150.13682@stsci.edu> wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:
>
>This is *ALL* my conjecture, and may or may not be the rationale of
>the TNG people at Paramount.

Paramount doesn't think at this level.  Wesley was  in because he was
available to work the week it was filmed, or some similar real-world
reason... it's up to us to justify it within the ST universe.
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From: ukoga@mcl.ucsb.edu (Jeff "Koganuts" Koga)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: FOR SALE: "Star Trek" photos
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:41:10 GMT

Hi.  I've a bunch of professionally done "Star Trek" photos that I'd like to
sell.  E-mail ukoga@mcl.ucsb.edu if interested.  Thanks!
--
All photos are color glossy 8" x 10", and are each protected by magazine-size
  comic book bags.
Each photo is $5 each, with the purchaser paying the cost of shipping. 
* Are officially licensed by Creation Convention (I don't work for them, BTW)
+ Are printed on Kodak paper (I don't work for them either)

"Star Trek VI"
+ Dinner scene between Klingons (left) and Starfleet (right), Gorkon and Spock
    in the foreground
* At Transporter Room, Uhura, Chekov, McCoy, Spock, Kirk (from left to right),
    and Scott in booth behind them see the Klingons beam off
+ On Rura Penthe, creature with differently-placed genitals (left) lifts Kirk
    (right)
* At Bridge, Spock (left) mind-melds with Valeris (right)
* In Enterprise corridor, Spock (left) and McCoy (right) hold equipment that's
    to be placed in the photon torpedo
* At Khitomer Conference, Kirk (left) faces Azetbur (right) as Spock, etc. look
    on

"Star Trek: The Next Generation"
* Third season Worf portrait
* Third season Troi portrait
* Third season Data portrait
* Guinan (left) poses with Nichelle Nichols (right)
--
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AKA "Indiana" Koga   ||"I agree."
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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: McCoy Quotes Wanted
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 19:21:58 GMT
Keywords: monKEY, turKEY, donKEY, KEYboard

In article <BvoLur.4r@acsu.buffalo.edu> v070p6nd@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Anthos) writes:
>Hello Trekkers, Trekkies, Treknologists,  and all other indigenous life forms
>of the galaxy (and the Net)!
>
>I am trying to compile a list of memorable McCoy-isms, and I would like your
>help.  If the response is great enough for it (and I get enough quotes) I may 
>even post it.
>
>Please E-mail me (I prefer E-Mail since it doesn't clutter up the net with
>unnecessary bandwith or whatever) your favorite McCoy quotes and any quote
>that begins with...
>
>"Dammit Jim! I'm a doctor, not a..." (Dammit Jim! can be replaced with whatever
>appropriate)
>
>If you must post your answer to the net, I will get it, so don't worry if you
>can't e-mail me.

>P.S. I hear that there is an episode where McCoy says "Dammit Jim! I'm a doctor,
>not a..."<look of embarrassment, then proceeds to treat the wounded person Kirk
>asked him to>  If said episode exists, tell me which one it is.  I personally
>think someone is pulling my leg.  DO NOT POST OR E-MAIL ME TO TELL ME THAT THERE
>IS NO SUCH EPISODE.  I will assume that if I get no answer to this, that it
>doesn't exist.

Ok, I won't post to tell you that there is no such episode. I will, however,
post to tell you that there is no such episode, and then tell you where it
came from. 

It was a Saturday Night Live episode, with William Shatner hosting. In this
particular sketch, the Enterprise had been converted into a restaurant, and
Khan shows up as a heath inspector... but I digress. At one point, a customer
starts choking, and Kirk tells Bones to attend to him. At which point Bones
says, "Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a... oh, yeah, right..." and goes to
help him. When McCoy can't do anything for him, Spock has to apply a special
Vulcan neck pinch which sends the bit of choked-upon food flying.


-- 
"Dammit Jim, I'm a free man, not a number!"
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