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From: epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Historical TV (or Covington Cross)
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:46:46 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

In article <1992Aug26.225458.19815@informix.com>, dranney@informix.com (David Ranney) writes:
> 
> Watching Covington Cross last night, something occurred to me.  I can't think
> of another prime time TV show which is set in the middle ages.  
> 
_Robin Hood_ was set in the middle ages.
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Lorne Epp                                               epp@mala.bc.ca
From: dranney@informix.com (David Ranney)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: St. Elsewhere - Final Episode
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:12:41 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Aug31.084147.9891@hemlock.cray.com> jeffy@cray.com (Jeff Neau) writes:
}Exactly.  But like a kid is going to imagine a story about a rapist who
}gets shot in the nuts by a wacko who used to be dating Howie Mandel who was
}friends with another doctor who was once left up tied in bed by a nutty
}chick.  And like he is going imagine Mark Harmon getting his Johnson caught
}in his zipper and catching AIDS.  And like he is going to imagine a doctor
}getting a degree from Mexico and having to go back and take classes after his
}wife dies in a car accident...
}
}Sheesh.  What a stoopid ending...

Does anybody remember the ending of the series "Newhart?"  A rather good
use of the "...and then the boy woke up" ending.
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From: iott@rtsg.mot.com (Joel K. Iott)
Subject: Re: Forever Knight
Organization: Motorola Inc.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:04:40 GMT

Speaking of Forever Knight, does this show remind anybody of Friday the 13th
(the TV show)?

Some similarties that come to mind are:
1. moody music
2. dark, forbiding city sets
3. supernatural theme
4. canadian origin

By the way, I enjoyed Friday the 13th quite a bit when it was on.  It could be
silly, but it could be horrifying as well - and was usually enjoyable.  Too bad
it got cancelled.
From: cass@netcom.com (Diana Tenery-Fisher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: The Heights
Date: 29 Aug 92 01:39:47 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse) writes:


>In a previous article, caj@sei.cmu.edu (Carol Jarosz) says:

>>In article <1992Aug28.135912.13476@athena.mit.edu>, amd@ghost.mit.edu (Ann M. Davis) writes:
>>
>>Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the sax player's boyfriend play in the
>>season ender of Quantum Leap.  He played Al in his younger years, I think.  
>>

>Correct.  The actor's name is James (Jamie) Walters and yes he was
>Bingo in Leap for Lisa.  The show seemed an awful lot like Melrose
>Place, but I'll give it another episode or two before I pass final
>judgement.

>Best part about it was the music.

Another interesting thing, Jamie Walters is Drew Barrymore's live-in love.


>-- 
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From: colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten)
Subject: Re: GOING TO EXTREMES
Summary: comedy vein mined out
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:52:51 GMT

In article <182fpgINNdlj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin) writes:
> 
> Well, I watched it... Certainly has the flavor of a tropical Northern
> Exposure, except the characters don't seem to have as wide a range of
> quirkiness as in NX. The impassioned and frustrated student doctor
> was pretty much a stereotype, and the snappish dialog between
> the new female medical student and him sounded like something I've
> heard dozens of times...

What I can't understand is why they used this plot idea at all.  It's been
mined to death in dozens of movies from "Young Doctors in Love", to "Gross
Anatomy" to "Bad Medicine".  The young americans who couldn't get into
an American medical school so they go to some 3rd world nation and you just
know they'll all be brilliant and caring and on and on ..  This one had the
usual stereotypes - the brilliant one, the scared one, the young woman who
the guy will try to get for the run of the show.  All very tired.

the other problem is that everyone is a stereotype, right down to hostile
Rastas.  The charm of Northern Exposure was playing against type.  The
young indian who idolizes Woody Allen and Martin Scorceses and wants to
make films.  The surprising sophistication of people in the back end of
nowwhere.  No one in NX is what you think they should be.  That's the
fun.  I don't see a lot of fun in this show.
> 
> Was the full-backal-nudity shot of the lady doctor radiology instructor
> a first for a network prime-time series, or have I just been leading too 
> sheltered a life, and such shots are common nowadays? :-)

not on my tv, but I think it's happened.

marc colten
From: gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Flintstones song
Keywords: commercial, Betty and Wilma
Date: 4 Sep 92 06:47:41 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


What about the song (one of many actually) that Wilma and Betty sent in
and won:  Keep you hubby happy
and won a contest with:  "Keep your hubby happy.....he's a happy tabby."
Something like that.
BTW, I think it was Entertainment Weekly, but I'm not sure, that did a poll
where men were asked if given a choice between Betty and Wilma, who they'd
sleep with.  Betty won by a 2:1 margin.  Sorry, can't remember the mag.
I myself would vote for Betty.
How about all of you?
-- 
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From: lutz@shredder.raleigh.ibm.com
Subject: Re: 2000 Malibu road...
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 16:42:03 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.037 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

In article <1992Aug27.082215.20848@coe.montana.edu> osyjm@cs.montana.edu (Jaye Mathisen) writes:
>Much as I hate to admit it, I actually kind of liked it.  Can't argue
>with the babe factor (well, could live w/o Barrymore).
>
>Sure, it's a typical late-soap-drama, but kind of innovative...
>
>Now if they'd just get rid of the fat chick, it'd be more interesting.
I *really* enjoyed the premiere.  I taped last night's episode so I'll get to 
see it today.  It really kept me interested.

>
>Now if they'd just get rid of the fat chick, it'd be more interesting.
What!?  If they get rid of the fat chick, who will they use to stir up trouble? 
Everytime they showed her in the premiere, I found myself getting nervous 
wondering what no-good deed she was up to this time?  She reminds me a lot of 
the chick from _Misery_.

Does anyone know what the future is for this show?  How many episodes?  Is it 
only meant to be a short running show or is it part of CBSs main lineup?  Is CBS
going to keep it on Wednesdays at 9:00pm?  

This could be a *real* problem!!  If I have to choose between Home Improvement, 
Seinfeld and 2000 Malibu Rd.  I don't know *what* I'll do!!  I can tape one, and 
watch another one, but how do I get the third show??????  

---
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                 internet: dave_lutz@vnet.ibm.com

"Now.  I shall destroy the rest of your potato crop.  Then I will attack
 your broccoli, your rhubarb, your squash, und last, but not least,
 ha, ha, ha, your kumquats!" - Colonel Siegfried of Kaos (from "Get Smart")
From: Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Emmies = Bad TV? / Dennis Miller Q's
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:44:38 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Terran Boylan writes:
> 
> Msg-ID: <1992Sep1.043519.25114@news.iastate.edu>
> Posted: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 04:35:19
> 
> Org.  : Engineering Animation, Inc.
> 
> Was it just me, or did the Emmies really suck?
> 
> It's ironic that a program that is supposed to celebrate
> the best in television was so terrible.  Did you see the
> bit where Ms. Alley (SP?) missed her cue and said something
> about her hair looking like it was sticking out?
> 
> Who wrote that crap?  Even Tim Allen (who I like) ended up
> looking like an idiot.
> 
> I should state that I missed the early part of the program.
> Actually, I didn't even know it was on.  I'm sorry I missed
> Dennis Miller's part.  Did he say anything about being
> cancelled?


Yes, you were right ... it really sucked. It seemed like every joke bombed.

My biggest disappointment was Ted Turner. I expected this big television mogul
to come out with a heavy "message" about the state of television in the 90's
and he came across as someone who wasn't too good at making speeches.

I also didn't like the part where Damon Wayans (?) from In Living Colour
introduced the writers from his show, and he prefaced it by saying something
about black people being judged by white people.

As for Kristie Alley, I thought she was the best of the three hosts. I like Tim
Allen, too ... but if he was going to say Ba Ba Boom again, I was going to
scream. Besides, it seemed like everyone apologized for their bad jokes. Also,
when Alley did some rap, it was kind of funny, although out of place.

I believe Dennis Miller mentioned that the Emmies could not be cancelled or
something like that.

One more thing, I didn't know that Victoria Principal was so skinny.

As Dana Delaney said, I really have to go to the washroom. Bye.

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From: tcw@kepler.unh.edu (Timothy C Webb)
Subject: Howard Stern shows wanted
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:49:35 GMT

  Hey, any Howard Stern collectors out there? I'm looking for any of these
episodes on VHS:

   -Howard vs. Nils Lofgren in basketball
   -the Brady Kids on "Hooker Hollywood Squares"
   -Howard's version of Pee Wee's Playhouse
   -the season premiere from this most recent season
   -the Christmas bowling special with Grandpa from "The Munsters"

  If you have any of these shows or others I might like, please drop me a line.
I'll gladly pay for all expenses and for your time. Thanks!

-- 
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|   nowadays you can't hear the words well enough to understand that what   |
|   you would have heard is something you wouldn't have understood anyway"  |
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From: hideg@spsd4360a.erim.org (Steve Hideg)
Subject: Re: Cartoon List
Organization: Environmental Research Institute of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan
	<1992Sep1.021227.21654@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
	<1992Sep1.053024.23248@schbbs.mot.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:47:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.053024.23248@schbbs.mot.com> rbruce@robocomp.corp.mot.com (Rob Bruce) writes:



   Also, does anyone remember Courageous Cat and Minute Mouse? A kind of
   Batman and Robin team? What company produced them? And how about Crusader
   Rabbit? I haven't heard his name for awhile.

Courageous Cat had the coolest theme song!
There was also a companion cartoon called "Batfink."

_________________________
Steve Hideg  N8HSC

hideg@amadeus.erim.org
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From: wab@well.sf.ca.us (Doc Benzene)
Subject: Re: The Heights (Not All Bad)
Organization: Hell Hole, Inc.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 07:15:40 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.135912.13476@athena.mit.edu> amd@ghost.mit.edu (Ann M. Davis) writes:
>Well, I watched this last night after all the hype, and more hype
>FOX put on for this show.  My opinion of it is the same for
>Melrose Place.  It has potential.

When you're in the theatre/film world, you're reaction to
these things is a little different.  When I saw the trailer
for the show, my thought was, "Jesus, that's Ken!"

>IMO, the best characters were the sax player, who reminded me of Julia
>Roberts, and her boyfriend.  The character portrayed by the blond girl
>is interesting, but she either she can't act or the script was lousy or
>both.  The rest of the cast was unremarkable.

...Meaning Ken Garito, the token Italian plumber.  He's
actually a really good young actor.  I worked with him when I
was working on my directing MFA and he was an undergrad at
Brooklyn College, just a couple of years ago.  I can't believe
that they've defaced him with that haircut.  There's no way
you can act through an abomination like that.

I can't say anything about the show because I didn't bother to
watch it.  Hey, we serious artists don't watch crap like
that.

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From: osyjm@cs.montana.edu (Jaye Mathisen)
Subject: Re: WHO WON WHAT-EMMMYS
Organization: CS
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:13:23 GMT


Never showed up here at the archive site either...  Please repost.
-- 
 Jaye Mathisen, COE Systems Manager                (406) 994-4780
 410 Roberts Hall,Dept. of Computer Science
 Montana State University,Bozeman MT 59717	osyjm@cs.montana.edu
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From: dmb@world.std.com (Deborah M Brown)
Subject: Re: MST3K: Weinstein snub?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:04:54 GMT

In article <BtuxJC.E6M@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jbs21045@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Joe Sterbenc) writes:
>I haven't heard anything about Mallon, Hodgson & co. snubbing the late
>Weinstein. I did hear, though, that CC made dumping Josh a deal-breaker;
>they refused to work with him. Don't know any other details...

Looks like we have the same information.  I guess we'll never know what
CC's problem was with Mr. Weinstein.  I know next to nothing about him
except that I didn't care for what I've heard of his Tom Servo 
characterisation.

>Also, I believe the lack of first-season reruns is a rights problem, not a
>Weinstein one. (OH...THE GREAT) Deborah M. Brown said that it was a hitch
>in the Ha!/CC merger that caused it.

"(OH...THE GREAT)"???  I just repeated what I read on alt.tv.mst3k as well
as other places.  I have no reason to doubt that information at this
point.



-- 
.......... It ain't over 'till Frank pushes the button ........
Disclaimer: "Disclaim THIS, pal!" (I'm REALLY in Rochester, NY)
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Subject: Re: Name this show?
From: <WELACK@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Thursday, 3 Sep 1992 10:51:03 EDT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

>
>Can someone help with this show?
>
>It starred Justin Bateman - is that his name?  Anyway, the Bateman kid.
>It also had the actor who WAS Marcie's husband on the older Married with
>Children.  He was (Bateman's) Mother's boyfriend, and they were forever
>playing practical jokes on one another.
>
>Can someone (A) Help me remember the name and (B) Make a local station
>play the reruns?
 
The name of the show was "It's your move". It ran from 9-26-84 to
8-10-85. The only other notable person in it was Garrett Morris of
SNL fame.
 
Source is "The Complete Directory to Prime Time Network TV Shows"
Bill Lack
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From: shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum)
Subject: Re: Emmy-barrassment
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:33:33 GMT

In article <Btx16J.EK2@news.udel.edu> conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad) writes:
>In article <9209011933.AA22929@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> APUCORLE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU writes:
>
>
>And two people I was thrilled to see win:
>
>Laurie Metcalf; one of the country's most accomplished actresses (I used
>to see her often, back in her Steppenwolf days), and she manages to
			       ^^^^^^^^^^^^
         
                             Was she in that band?!




>
>
>Jon Alan Conrad



Rick
From: tbromley.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: What are those things???
Date: 26 Aug 92 12:25:36 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

cuy@ssdvax.mdcbbs.com writes:

> Ok, this isn't one of the more entertaining question, but I was
> watching the Republican convention (and no, that does not neces-
> sarily decribe my political affiliations) the other night and I
> saw 2 plastic-looking things in front of the podium.  They seemed
> to be off at angles to the speaker rather than directly in front
> of him/her.
> 
> Does anyone know for sure what those are??  My first guess was a
> heads-up display kind-of thing....either that or a spit shield :-)
> 
My understanding is that they are teleprompter devices, designed so the 
speaker can read his speech while looking directly at the camera or 
audience.  They are apparently designed to be read from the speaker's 
viewpoint only -- we cannot read the words from our vantage point -- so 
as not to distract the TV viewer.

Tom Bromley
From: edgar@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: **MIDDLE AGES**
Date: 4 Sep 1992 14:31:15 -0400
Organization: The Ohio State University, Dept. of Math.
NNTP-Posting-Host: function.mps.ohio-state.edu

>Ok. I am not a baby boomer, and people who are "middle aged' are twice my 
>age,

There is an old joke, where they reported the results of a survey
of college coeds.  The good news is, coeds think middle-aged men
are sexy.  The bad news is, coeds think "middle-aged" means 30.
-- 
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  Department of Mathematics      Bitnet:    EDGAR@OHSTPY
  The Ohio State University      telephone: 614-292-0395 (Office)
  Columbus, OH 43210             -292-4975 (Math. Dept.) -292-1479 (Dept. Fax)
From: lipscomb@lonestar.utsa.edu (David S. Lipscomb)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: tpir
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:54:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

Does anyone out there know the last names of the models from
'the price is right?'

If so please email the names at lipscomb@lonestar.utsa.edu

Thanx for the assistance.
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From: mcanally@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp (David Scott McAnally)
Subject: Murphy Brown: The Baby Shower
Reply-To: dsm@axiom.maths.uq.oz.au
Organization: Research Institute for Mathematical Sciences, Kyoto, Japan.
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 04:57:32 GMT

This week, we saw the episode of "Murphy Brown" in which
Corky throws her the baby shower.  Now, I know Katie Couric,
Faith Daniels, and Maryalice (sp?) Williams.  Could
somebody please supply information on Joan Lunden and
Paula Zahn, eg, what networks, and what they do, etc.
From the episode, I worked out that Paula Zahn is (was)
not with NBC, but that's all.

David McAnally
From: sll28@cc.usu.edu (Lorna Payne)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Historical TV (or Covington Cross)
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:02:58 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Aug28.142327.4456@caeco.mentorg.com>, gillmore@picard.slc.mentorg.com (Mike Gillmore (Consultant)) writes:
> In article <1992Aug26.225458.19815@informix.com>, dranney@informix.com (David Ranney) writes:
>> 
>> Watching Covington Cross last night, something occurred to me.  I can't think
>> of another prime time TV show which is set in the middle ages.  Blackadder
>> had a series in the middle ages, but it's hard to consider it a full run
>> show because it only had a set number of episodes.
>> 
>> What historical time periods have been represented in prime time TV?
>>  
>> Korean War (MASH)
> 
>     I find this reasoning very shallow.  While M*A*S*H may have
> used a set that was supposed to be Korea, many of the problems
> that were presented were not Korean war problems, but Viet Nam
> problems.  Think about it ...

But how many really "western" problems were shown in Bonanza?  As
Gene Roddenberry said in _The_Making_of_Star_Trek_,  any TV show set in 
another historical period is not really about 1860, or 1950, or 2380 
people, but about the people and society who make it.  In other words,
a work of popular culture, like a TV show, reflects the attitudes and
concerns of the makers, regardless of the setting.

For another example, compare Jane Austen with any of the modern "Regency
Romance" authors.  I'm not saying the moderns are no good (some of them
are very good indeed) but that trying to reproduce the true tone and
outlook of two centuries ago is impossible.  The heroes and heroines of
the Regency romances are contemporary people with contemporary attitudes,
going through the motions of living in another world.  Television
shows are the same:  a magical looking glass which seems to be a window
into another world, but is really just reflects ourselves back.

MASH is about "Viet Nam problems" because those were the issues Americans
were dealing with during the 70's.  As Americans began to worry about
other issues, those also came up in the show (e.g., women's issues:
look at how Margaret's character changed, and what she went through).
-- 

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From: eia018@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr.A.Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: QUINCY, M.E.
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:37:00 GMT
Organization: Department of Linguistics at Lancaster University, UK.

I used to enjoy watching the series "Quincy, M.E.", and wondered
whether anyone could tell me whether there were any tie-in books
published (esp. _about_ the series, rather than story adaptations),
episodes released on video, fanzines etc.

Thanks,

Andrew Wilson
Linguistics
Lancaster University, UK
email:  eia018@lancaster.ac.uk
From: sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL & the Emmys: "We wuz robbed!"
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:43:22 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1855e8INNdl1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse) writes:

>>What's the track record of QL, as far as Emmys go?  Nominations?  Wins?

>Lots of nominations.  No wins.  <sigh>

If we're talking about the complete run of the series, I beg to differ.
The total is 5.

The pilot ep won for cinematography and I think hairstyling (or was it
makeup? I'd have to look that up).

Last year, the makeup guys won for "The Leap Home", for Scott-as-Dad's
makeup.

The 2 years previous to this one, Michael Watkins (my hero) won for
cinematography (for "Pool Hall Blues" and "Vietnam"). I have a picture of
Michael at a softball game the day after he won the first one, holding
the statue and grinning like an idiot, and another of his wife holding
it and looking pretty happy, and one of the whole TEAM trying to get their
hands on it.

Amusing note: this year's Emmys provoked me to do a drive-by shouting.
No, that's not a typo -- my friends and I drove past the Academy HQ about
1 AM and screamed "FUCK YOU!!!" at the top of our lungs. It echoed
very nicely and we felt better. Although, after Keenan Ivory Wayans'
speech, we were a little surprised it wasn't in flames. ;-)

Sally
-- 
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I'm unemployed--these opinions *must* be mine!
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