HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jessica@dartagnan.rutgers.edu (jessica)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Tori Amos CD 5's
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:17:57 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University Computing Services
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




greg@mobius.viewlogic.com (Gregory Larkin) writes:


>Records and several other stores.  The only thing I saw in any 
>of these stores was a "cassingle" for "Silent All These Years."


Speaking of that cassingle, it was only .99 so we picked up both
copies that the store had. The other song on it "upside down" is 
one of my favorites so far. I listened to it a few times in a row
on the way home last night. 


The piano playing and the backing vocal nearish the end remind me
a *lot* of kate. There are a few songs in particular in the Cathy Demos
where the piano playing is very similar, and in these backing vocals
Tori uses a high voice that is rarely heard in most of the songs. 


One other thing I like very much about her voice is that she 
is very passionate, one way or another, be it happy, sad, angry, tired,
energetic, dancing, or just plain mellow. Her voice is vey expressive
of all of these things. It's something that also reminds me of kate. 
*every* single line, if not every single word, uses the voice in
a fully expressive way. 


				jessica




-- 
|| jessica  || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for ||
|| lawrence ||    brings us    || any moment in time, every memory of mine.  ||
|| koeppel  ||    together.    || Those years are lines of color on my face, ||
|| dembski  ||        --Kate   || the past is warpaint.     --Happy Rhodes   ||
From: bill@psych.toronto.edu (Bill Pusztai)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Theological Kwestion
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:47:42 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Psychology, University of Toronto
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


In article <64964@apple.Apple.COM> toc@instance.com (Tim O'Connor) writes:
>
>REGARDING                Theological Kwestion
>Can Kate write a song with imagery so rich and complex that She Herself
>can't understand it?
>
>
>--
>"A typical long haired half mad computer programmer on a typical computer
>keyboard with odd toys scattered conservatively about."
>
>
>to'c






Well, of COURSE she can! Luckily, She first created .gaffa to reveal Her tru
meaning to Herself. 


Clear?


(hmmm... there must be _some_ Thealogians reading .gaffa - what do _you_
say?)


 
 _____________________________oOo_______________________________
                               +
 bill@psych.toronto.edu  Bill Pusztai  B5/7 f+ t++ w++ g+ k- s+ p
From: mdc@bsbbs.columbus.oh.us (Melissa D. Caldwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Thanks Melissa (Tori dates) & YKTR
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:22:29 GMT
Organization: The Big Sky BBS (+1 614 864 1198)
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) writes:


> Thanks for the Tori tour dates. Chris and I will definitely go to the
> Chicago show. I really am looking forward to it. The venue is a


> the tour was set up before the buzz started. We'll have to check
> and see if tickets are being sold in advance (they aren't always
> for Schuba's shows) so thanks for the advance tip.




I called our local Ticketmaster outlet before we knew Tori's
tour dates.  The local office sells tickets for shows in Ohio,
Kentucky, Indiana and Tennessee.  Tickets for shows in Illinois 
are handled through another office, but they checked and said 
that they had the show at Schubas listed.  I didn't think 
to ask, but I assumed that they were handling tickets for that 
show since they had that much info.


  




 Melissa Caldwell                         You want my reply?
 The Big Sky BBS (+1 614 864 1198)         What was the question?
 {n8emr|nstar}!bluemoon!bsbbs!mdc           I was looking at the Big Sky
 mdc@bsbbs.columbus.oh.us
From: ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: "Wow" on Andy Warhol documentary
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:14:10 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




Did anybody else see the documentary on Andy Warhol last night on PBS?
The used "Wow" as background music for one segment.  The whole song was
played!  It was in the first ten minutes.


Ed
ed@wente.llnl.gov


P.S. Isaac Asimov is dead and I miss him greatly.
From: drk@leland.stanford.edu (David Koehler)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: can the tori chatter
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:36:50 GMT
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Apparently-To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


In article <65141@apple.Apple.COM> jondr@sco.COM (Jon Drukman) writes:


>folks, i humbly request that somebody out there set up a tori amos
>mailing list and get the traffic out of gaffa.
>
>why are y'all wasting your computrons on someone like tori anyway?
>she's about as interesting as lint.  granted, she's better than happy
>rhodes, but then again, *anything* is better than happy rhodes.  with
>the possible exception of def leppard.
>
>Jon Drukman (let's get rocked)                                  jondr@sco.com
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------


Boy, things have almost been *too* cordial and pleasant on Gaffa in the last
few weeks.  How dull it can be without a flame war.


Way to go, Jon.


BTW, I *expect* you to flame me for this, since it seems that's what you're
looking for.


David.
From: bjhs@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Ben Siemerink)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: So, what's her music like?
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:35:36 GMT
Mailer: Elm [revision: 64.9.hplb.1]
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


Hi Folks!




I wonder:  is Tori Amos'  music like Kate's  first two albums?  Yes or
no or a little or ...?




Ben, 9 April 1992.
--
Ben Siemerink, Bristol, UK                                     Crisis?
bjhs@hplb.hpl.hp.com                                      What Crisis?
..................................HF..................................
From: bq214@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ken Saintjohn)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Babooshka and Leave It Open
Date: 16 Apr 92 10:40:02 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Apparently-To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




 
Jackie hits it on the head with:
 
>OK, first I never had Russian but I knew what babooshla meant, perhaps
>it has to do with me hanging out with a lot of Russian Jews when I was
>growing up.  I also noticed (thanks to Russian Jewish friends) that
>babooshka can also be the name for a little hat.  Incidently this hat
>is picture on the sleeve of the Russian blue flexi disk for Kate's
>Babooshka.
 
Dose no one remember the "Bikini Babooshka"?  Am I _that_ old?  :)
 
I was on vacation in Cape Cod during the summer of 64 or 65 and all
the fashionable ladies on the beaches were wareing these little
hats/scarves to keep there hair in place.  These little things that
came in different colors and were sold as "The Bikini Babooshka".
 
 ................................//..............................
 .                        Saint\X/ohn (Ken)                     .
 . <ken@bsbbs.columbus.oh.us><{n8emr|nstar}!bluemoon!bsbbs!ken> .
 .               The Big Sky BBS (+1 614 864 1198)              .
 .    "I think quotes are very dangerous things!" KaTe Bush.    .
 ................................................................
From: martin@kawa.ssl.fujitsu.co.jp (Simon Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Book of Dreams?
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:05:06 GMT
Organization: FUJITSU SOCIAL SCIENCE LABORATORY LIMITED, JAPAN.
Return-Path: <news@kawa.ssl.fujitsu.co.jp>
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM








MG> How hard is this book to find?


Well, I once lost my "Jane's Armoured Fighting Vehicle Recognition
Handbook" for a week.  I finally found it in a cupboard above the
toilet.


MG> Michael Graham                   |    My father lives in Arabia




Bill Wisner ( I think ) was asking about "Cariad Kate International"
the famous Welsh fanzine.  CKI changed their name to "Never For Ever"
last year because they felt they were being too obscure ( Cariad is
Welsh for beautiful ).  I thought it was an exellent fanzine.  Not
printed to the same standard as Homeground but a hell of a lot better
to read.  I'll look up their address and subscription rates tonight
when I get home and post them tomorrow.


Does anyone out there know anything about Japanese fan clubs? I know
some addresses but nothing else. Thanks.








--
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                                                 Simon C. T. Martin  
                                                 martin@kawa.ssl.fujitsu.co.jp
Korman's Conclusion: 
The trouble with resisting temptation is that it may never come you way again.
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From: mbowman@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Michael Bowman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Cloudbusting files available for FTP
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:09:48 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




The Cloudbusting 2 ASCII files are now available for anonymous FTP on
wiretap.spies.com in directory /love-hounds/kb/cloudbusting.


Michael Bowman
From: mbowman@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Michael Bowman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Cloudbusting 2 ASCII Version now available
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:11:32 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




Cloudbusting, 2nd edition, ASCII version, is now availble via two methods:
anonymous FTP or FTPmailer, and via snailmail.  I received the disks from Ron
Hill today.


FTP or mailer:  I will be uploading and PUTting the files to
wiretap.spies.com tomorrow night.  Bill Wisner will then need to move them to
the apropriate subdirectory so that they will be available for FTP.  There
are 3 groups of files: 1) files with a TXT extension - this is the actual
Cloudbusting files in ASCII format; 2) files with a ZIP extension - this is
ZIPped versions of the Cloudbusting files; 3) files with a GIF extension -
these are GIF files that go with Cloudbusting.  Once these are actually
available Bill Wisner will no doubt send out a message letting us know.


Snailmail:  For those people who don't have FTP privileges or access to an
FTPmailer it will be possible to obtain the files through the mail.  The
total Cloudbusting package is 5 720Kb floppy disks (for IBMs or compatibles).
Anyone who is interested in receiving these disks please send me a mail
message with your name, e-mail & snailmail addresses.  The first responder
will receive the disks from me with a list of all other respondents and will
be responsible for sendings the disks on to the next person on the list.  I
ask that when someone receives the disks that they post this fact to
Love-Hounds so that newcomers and people who missed this announcement can add
their names to the list.


If there is a significant number of people who need 5 1/4" disks then I am
willing to start 2 mailing chains.  Please specify in your message if you
CANNOT use 3 1/2" disks.  It would take at least 10 5 1/4" disks to hold all
of the files.


There should also be a WordPerfect 4.2 version available shortly from someone
else. 


Michael Bowman
mbowman@andromeda.rutgers.edu
From: Liz%Eng%Banyan@hippo.banyan.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: More Tori & Kate
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:02:16 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


I was going to write a throughtful paragraph on KaTe and Tori, and the sort
of media attention they each attract, and some of the reasons things may be
the way they are; but other people said stuff better.  (I will admit, though,
that although bits of Tori's album knocked me off my feet, I found it a little
uneven.  Great cover art, though. ;-))


So I'll just say that anyone who didn't capitalize on Jon Drukman's 
recommendation of Single Gun Theory should go out RIGHT NOW and buy this
disc.  Sort of progressive dance music, with a little Middle Eastern flavor
here and there; and some pretty neat lyrics, too.


Liz


lizb@banyan.com
From: lester@gandalf.etdesg.TRW.COM (Jeff Lester)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: SM in Boston
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:16:06 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


A friend of mine taped Sarah McLachlan's radio broadcast in Boston last night
on DAT. I don't know yet about the quality (maybe some FM interference in
spots), but when I get it I will volunteer to run a tape tree to distribute
this tape to any love-hounds who would like a copy. I should have the tape
by the weekend.


-Jeff Lester
From: ST701790@brownvm.brown.edu (Zimri Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Jane Siberry's "Speckless Sky"
Date: 7 Apr 92 04:04:39 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




Greetings. I was in a record store today and found that
there are four copies of Jane Siberry's "The Speckless Sky" LP
(on vinyl) in a cut-out rack, going for $3.99 (each).
If anyone's interested, I can go snap 'em up for you.
BTW, this is the release on the Windham Hill sub-label (what's
it called, "Open Air" or something like that?),  not the
international version pressed in Germany that has "Mimi on the Beach"
on it. But it's a really great album, at a really great
price.  So who wants one?


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From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Help on Mailing lists (creating ML for enya)
Date: 11 Apr 92 20:23:51 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




In article <65072@apple.Apple.COM> ml@vcp1.vcp.monash.edu.au writes:
> 
> I'm seriously considering setting up mailing list for information and articles,
> ect. about enya.  Articles and discussion on rec.music.newage are getting a
> little on the mundane side with regard to enya - always the same questions
> being asked.  Hopefully a mailing list would lessen the mundane messages and
> quell passions and flames and the same time. (There is a proposal to create a
> rec.music.enya newsgroup but somehow I don't think it will succeed as there 
> might not be enough users dedicated to carry the newsgroup on.  But I might be
> wrong.  It has not yet gone to a vote.)


Mailing lists are an incredible pain in the butt (for the list maintainer).
Not only do you have hassles with mail bouncing, you always get requests to
join when you don't have time/energy to deal with them, and you will still
be getting them long after the list is dead.


What you want to do is create alt.music.enya or alt.fan.enya - alternate
groups
From: jdi@Franz.COM (John D. Irwin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Sarah McLachlan in SF
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:45:22 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Franz Incorporated, Berkeley CA
Return-Path: <news@Franz.COM>
Apparently-To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


Sarah McLachlan will be playing in San Francisco, April 30
at Bimbo's.  (A midsize club).  Tickets are all general
admission, $13.50, and are available through BASS.


	-- jdi
From: jondr@sco.COM (Desi the Three-Armed Wonder Comic)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: can the tori chatter
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:53:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: apple.65141
Source-Info:  From (or Sender) name not authenticated.
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


folks, i humbly request that somebody out there set up a tori amos
mailing list and get the traffic out of gaffa.


why are y'all wasting your computrons on someone like tori anyway?
she's about as interesting as lint.  granted, she's better than happy
rhodes, but then again, *anything* is better than happy rhodes.  with
the possible exception of def leppard.


Jon Drukman (let's get rocked)                                  jondr@sco.com
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From: u907295@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Scott Keene)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: KATE'S GRANDMA....?
Keywords: Kate Bush Grandmother
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:58:07 GMT
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Apparently-To: gaffa-post@eddie.mit.edu
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




I just happened to notice in my Russkiy Slovar the other day that "BABOOSHKA"
  is Russian for "GRANDMOTHER".  Is this common knowledge?


Do many people sing about their Grannies in such a way? (Referring especially
  to the Film Clip). 


'Aye-yiy Grandmother Grandmother Grandmother Yiy-yiy....'






SCOTT  u907295@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au


University of Tasmania
Hobart Tasmania
Australia
From: s.telford@ed.ac.uk (Scott Telford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Interesting bits in Never Forever 18
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:36:29 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, UK.
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




In the April issue of CK's Pop Forum (a small newsletter free with
Never Forever) is a paragraph or two about a UK tv special called
"Endangered Species" to be shown on ITV during the summer season. It
seems to be some sort of nature programme (as you might expect) and it
features music commissioned from Seal, Peter Gabriel, <somebody-else-
I-can't-remember> and KaTe!


The way they use the word "commissioned" seems to suggest something
more interesting than accompanying shots of whales with the intro to
"Moving" (8^), but I s'pose we'll just have to wait and see...


Also, in the letters page of NF 18, there is mention of a purveyor of
hair extensions appearing on a childrens tv show ("Motormouth") and
claiming that KaTe is one of his customers! 


I was always rather doubtful of that extra foot or so she had in the
Rocket Man video...


-- 
Scott Telford, Dept of Computer Science, / "What the world doesn't need is
University of Edinburgh, Mayfield Rd,    / more 'casual Kate Bush fans'. What
Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK.                  / the world needs more of is
electric mail: s.telford@ed.ac.uk        / FUCKING KATE BUSH MANIACS" - IED,1989
From: DOUGLAS_MAC_GOWAN@mailgate.sfsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Benatar's "Wuthering Heights"
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:50:17 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


I would have to agree that Pat Benatar's cover of Wuthering
Heights was not a high point.


However, it was because of that cover that I first discovered Kate
(a friend and I were having a heated argument about the lyrics:
 "wiley, windy moors" or "winding, windy moors"), so I am kind of
indebted to Benatar for my discovery of Kate.


I also credit Benatar with the ability to recognize the genius of
the song at a time when Kate was pretty unknown over here.




- Douglas MacGowan
From: welsh@epcc.edinburgh.ac.uk (E Welsh)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: More Tori & Kate
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:02:31 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




In article <65067@apple.Apple.COM>, kms@world.std.com (Kelly M Stanonik) writes:
> 
> Liz%Eng%Banyan@hippo.banyan.com writes:
> 
> 
> >uneven.  Great cover art, though. ;-))
> 
> 
> I assume you're talking about the fungus and not wood-block-tori-amos
> lettering.  For myself, if you're going to be phallic you should be a
> little less obvious about it.  In other words, too blatent, one thumb
> down.


Was that pun intentional? I love it. Of course, thumb up would have been
funnier.


Scott and I saw Tori at the Queen's Hall in Edinburgh last night (8th).
Words cannot describe! (Which is a good way of getting out of writing a
review. ;-) Perhaps Scott will.


So who's going to this Homeground party then? I still can't decide.


-- 
 _____________________________________________________________________
/ Evan Welsh                                          <evan@ed.ac.uk> \
\ Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre               (+44 31 650 5960) /
From: greg@mobius.viewlogic.com (Gregory Larkin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Tori Amos CD 5's
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:12:37 GMT
Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
Originator: greg@mobius
Apparently-To: rec-music-gaffa@husc6.harvard.edu
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




Hi there,


Last week, I think someone posted an article about the Tori
Amos "Winter" CD5.  I was wondering if anyone out there knows
where it can be purchased.  Is it available through mail order?


I tried a large store in Cambridge, MA (HMV), as well as Tower
Records and several other stores.  The only thing I saw in any 
of these stores was a "cassingle" for "Silent All These Years."


Could the original poster please email me with more info?


Thanks,
-- 
------------greg@Viewlogic.COM-----------------
From: robert_martin@offcampus.reed.edu (Robert Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: BABOOSHKA
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:48:54 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


 BABOOSHKA                                   4/16/92       9:31 AM
Same here as far as "Babooshka" being why I started listening to KaTe in the
first place.  I was beginning my Russian studies at the time, and it amused me.


By the way, "BA-bush-ka" in Russian does most literally mean "grandmother," but
it is used almost as often to refer to any old woman (sometimes
derogatorily)--in particular the type of woman who makes it her business to
police everyone else and keep them in line, especially young people.  This is
considered a kind of public service.  Indeed, there are groups of babushki who
sweep the streets with little wicker brooms, and if they see you get out of
line--e.g. if your clothes are deemed provocative--you just might get whacked.


Someone else mentioned that "babushka" also refers to a head covering, but in
my experience this meaning is used primarily in the West, probably because we
have come to associate Russian head scarves with those women whom the Russians
call babushki.


And since we are grasping for shreds of fairly meaningless (but fun) linguistic
nonsense, I will add that if "Ya Ya" means grandmother in Greek, "ya" in
Russian means I, and since there is no present tense conjugation of the verb
"to be" in Russian, "babushka ya" means "I am the/a babushka."  Just my two
cents.


--Robert
From: blondie@netcom.com (Jill Firch)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: misc. stuff
Date: 10 Apr 92 01:58:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: apple.65161
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)
Apparently-To: rec-music-gaffa@ames.arc.nasa.gov
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


Ron, or anyone who has spoken to IED recently, 
Why is his voice no longer heard here?  I sent mail to Ed and he said that
IED may be in the bay area but he wasn't sure... Has the man mysteriously
disapeared?  If he is in the bay area there are so many public access
sites (take this one for example) that time should be his only excuse :).


-jill
From: mortal@ucscb.ucsc.EDU (71079000)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Kate Covers
Summary: No, I'm not asking about bedspreads with Kate's picture on them...
Date: 15 Apr 92 04:06:16 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing
Source-Info:  From (or Sender) name not authenticated.
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM






Are there covers of Kate Bush songs released commercially.
It just struck me that with Kate's particular style of singing/
musical composition, it would be very difficult to do a version
of one of her songs, particularly the later ones, without just
trying to recreate her version. I mean, you can't just pick up
a guitar and strum along and sing "Rocket Tail," can you?




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