From: amipb@amipb.gna.org (Philippe Berard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Trying to find the perfect morpher
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:33:29 GMT
Organization: IWANIMA
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Nov16.045747.27753@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:
> In article <amipb.037b@amipb.gna.org> amipb@amipb.gna.org (Philippe Berard)
> writes:
>
> >    What's this new fashion, 2.0 Style Guide compliant !? >:-|
>
> New fashion? 2.0 was released with the unveiling of the A3000.

    Yes, of course. And now it's 3.0, Tim. And how many things have
    changed since 3.0 (except for more optimized graphics routines) ?
    
    The new Proportionnal Gadget has a 3D look (still no symbol in it)
    that looks like a brick, nothing more. Now you can change the pens for
    the menus to have, for example, a better looking Black Text/White
    Background menu.
    
    Don't get me wrong, this is a good GUI, but this is not the reference.
    Now we have good high resolutions, why does CBM distribute their
    WorkBench disks with Icons that should be used in a 640x200 environment ?
    Why isn't there any Cut/Paste operation available in string Gadgets ?
    Why are the icons only restricted to WorkBench ?
    Why is there no animation support for Gadgets ?
    Why is the string Gadget still buggy with proportionnal fonts ? (I talk
    for v39.106 kickstart and v39.356 GadTools).
    Why can't you put your own background in proportionnals ?
    Why is there no support for gadgets placed in a superbitmap window (to
    have, for example, a scrollable panel) ?
    Why can't we see any support for Curved or Rotative gadgets ? (Yes, you
    can make them with BOOPSI, but that's a lot of work)
    etc... etc...

> >    Intuition gadget borders are so big and awful I prefer draw them myself,
> >    there is text everywhere instead of images : This is a good GUI ?
>
> Are you inferring that 'roll-your-own' 1.3 GUIs are better? Besides, the whole
> idea of well-written 2.0 compliant software is to avoid these problems.

    Of course not. But why do so many companies write their own GUI ? That's
    because even the 2.0 GUI lacks some useful features like some I've
    described above.

>
> >    It's true that ASDG's and Black Belt's GUIs are so poor they're beging
> >    in my street, but please don't program them with GadTools : Slow interfaces
> >    could be great if they're beautiful, but GadTools isn't.
>
> Good philosophy. Cut off your nose to spite your face.

    GadTools is slow, GadTools is ugly. Have you ever seen a NeXT ? This is
    THE reference.

> >    Now I calm down, but please ask this man to stop saying nonsenses... ;-)
>
> Your words, not mine.

    Did you ever programmed something with GadTools ? If you're saying GadTools
    is great, then you're the first developper I know that say that.
    
    Sincerely,
                                   -- Philippe

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