HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bill@west.msi.com (Bill Poitras)
Subject: Re: CBM mention on 12/11/92 Computer Chronicles
Reply-To: bill@west.msi.com
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:42:04 GMT

Matthew Simmons (zarthac@bradley.edu) wrote:
: Jerry Shekhel (jerry@msi.com) wrote:
: : Matthew Simmons (zarthac@bradley.edu) wrote:
: : : : Running out of things to say, Matthew?
: : : Call me Matthew again, and you won't be able to say anything anymore...
: : If you don't want people to call you Matthew, reconfigure your site so that
: : whatever name you like appears in the article header.  Until then, your name
: : *is* Matthew :-P
: Sure, I'll just reconfigure the site...  This is a computer system with many
: hundreds of accounts, just on this machine. There are two sysadmins who look
: over the entire bradley system (which includes about 5 main systems, plus
: countless machines for departments, plus a machine with its own IP address
: for each dorm room in about 3-4 dorms)...  SURE they're going to change my
: name in the computer from Matthew to Matt...  These two actually like to get
: work done...

How about configuring your newsreader to change your name.  If your
newsreader (nn, right?) uses inews to post news, it should read the NAME
environment variable for your "real name" as its called.  That way you
won't have to make threats that you probably can't carry out anyway.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Subject: DSP Module
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:32:14 GMT

In article <10609@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com> peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany) writes:

>> From all indications, the 3210 is indeed the DSP of choice, although
>> items such as speech synthesis, compression etc. will likely come in
>> the form of 'personality boards' which would be added to the basic
>> system. 

>Hmm, as far as I heard, this speech synthesis and other stuff is
>existing already as pure software library for that DSP. Why should
>we need additional hardware???

My understand of Lew Eggebrecht's comments at the WOC in Toronto was that
these 'personality boards' would be used for things such as high-speed
modems, sound digitizing and other areas outside the realm of the
standard module. If 3.1 comes equipped with a synthesis library, I'll
be a happy camper.
From: jsg@ccs.northeastern.edu (Jonas S Green)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A4000/EC030 confirmed
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:05:43 GMT
Organization: College of CS, Northeastern U

In article <C1FroF.CLr@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> kevint@sad.hp.com (Kevin Taddeucci) writes:
>Marc N. Barrett (barrett@iastate.edu) wrote:
>
>> The A1200 is being packaged with Final Copy -- which isn't very useful
>> because it isn't very good --
>
>A word processor isn't very useful?  Final Copy isn't very good?
>Marc, do you own Final Copy, and have you actually bothered to learn it?
> 
>> and DPaint IV, which is only useful to a small minority
>> of people who are good and drawing and painting on a computer, and care
>> about such things.
>
>> The A4000 is being packaged with DPaint IV and 
>> ADPro, which is also only useful to a minority of people.
>
>Makes since to me since C= is targeting this machine for multimedia use. I 
>would think that most people using this machine for multimedia would get a 
>lot of use out of these programs!

I would make one change to C='s Powerup Strategy, given I could not change
their deals with the Software Companies. (Replace Final Copy w/ Excellence 3)
 
That is I would allow a choice of programs to buy. Pick two of the three,
ADPro, DPaint IV AGA, or FC. The reason is the A4000 is not just a 
multimedia machine, any more than the A1200 is just a Kiosk base.
 
Professional DTPers, and others may want to use an A4000 for DTP 
Wordprocessing, Telecommunications and other tasks. 

Given we had a choice of ProPage, ProDraw, ArtExpression, and PageStream
would make the deal even better.

As the A4000 is the only machine that officially comes with a High
Density Floppy, and all current Mac & IBM Platforms use HD Floppies
the ease of moving files from one platform to another is greatly increased.
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon makes its debut
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:05:52 GMT
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics

In article <1k31rdINN3j6@phakt.usc.edu> dleslie@phakt.usc.edu (David Leslie) writes:

[ ]
>
>Hey who knows. Look how many c-64's get sold in europe, the falcon may go 
>over very well over there. It is a dead issue in the US though.

Except for niche markets (Atari for music and Amiga for video), everything
except for the PC and to a lesser extent the Mac is a dead issue in the
US. The real question is whether or not that matters.
 
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
From: douddy@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: IBM
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:28:52 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

In article <kennys.3hhq@terapin.com>, kennys@terapin.com (Kenny Sequeira) writes:
> Well, IBM lost 5 billion dollars, I guess
> 
> OS/2 is dead.
> 
> PS/2 machines are history.
> 
> All Research and Development comes to a halt.
> 
> Every syndicated high tech columnist in the country will announce 
> the death of everything connected with IBM.
> 
> Of course none of this will ever happen.
	It could happen... look to silicon breast implants.  If every IBM  pc
was found to contain unpolymerized polyvinylalchol, it would take users 10-15
years of exposure to come down with acute neurological pathologies.  If
every IBM owner starts twitching someday...  ;^) 
        
Dustan Doud
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Re: Move
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:49:28 GMT
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Michael Grom (gromyko@sputnik.rhein-main.de) wrote:
: >
: > Really?  So how come I can use "cd .." to up a directory level on both DOS
: > and UNIX, but not on an Amiga?  Who's doing things backwards here?
:
: It appears those DOS blockheads got it right to clone the "cd .." but screwed
: up the "/", making it a "\" in their ignorance.
:

So, what's the big deal?

:
: By the way: can you "cd" into any directory by simply typing its name?
:

With a freeware utility I can.

:
: Can
: your computer "remeber" direcories an switch back and forth between them?
:

Oooh.  PUSHD and POPD.  What a concept.  With a freeware utility I can.

:
: No, no! Do not excuse the MS-DOS "Shell": it's Simply BS.
:

Are you trying to imply the AmigaDOS is pristine in its "clean" form?
What a laugh.

:
: 	Michael
:
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: cpb1001@phx.cam.ac.uk (C.P. Brown)
Subject: Re: CU Amiga (was Re: amiga a1200.....
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:50:15 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.174307.5200@maths.tcd.ie>, kpjeacle@maths.tcd.ie (Karl Jeacle) writes:
|> >I have Kindwords3 and I have a friend with Wordworth V1, and KW3 is definitley 
|> >scaled down version of Wordworth. If you bring up up the about requester in KW3
|> >it even says (C) Digita International!
|> 
|> Hmm, interesting. I haven't used KW3, but any reviews haven't been too
|> hot, and Jan 93 Amazing Amiga review says it's by Disc Company in Los
|> Angeles. On the other hand, I've used WW2, it's a _lot_ nicer than WW1
|> and all the UK reviews pronounce it as champion WP package... I wouldn't
|> rate the two in the same league at all.

Well, It seems that Digita wrote KW3, and The Disc Company sell it. I agree that
WW2 is looking very good, and has some nice features (AGA support, hot links etc)

Considering how much I paid for KW3, (30 pounds) I think it's excellent. Produces
nice output on most printers, and it works properly with CG fonts. I would like
WW2 but can't afford it at the moment :-(

Chris Brown
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: msmcknig@unccsun.uncc.edu (Michael S McKnight)
Subject: Re: A4000/EC030 confirmed
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:53:14 GMT

Why in the world is Commodore making all of their new machines with the EC chips
instead of the full blown versions?  The A1200 has a 68EC020, the proposed A4000
-030 has a 68EC030 and I even heard that the chip in the A4000 was a 68EC040.

Sure, it might be cheaper, but by how much?  We should at least be given the
option.  Using the EC chips makes virtual memory impossible and UNIX, should
CBM ever get back into it, also impossible.

If CBM wants to leave the MMU out of the low end machines (600, 500), fine, but
no AGA machine (which I consider medium to high-end) should come with anything
less than a full-blown version of its respectable CPU.


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From: mueller@cs.ubc.ca (Stephan Mueller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Move
Date: 26 Jan 1993 18:19:24 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: giraf.cs.ubc.ca

In article <1993Jan21.160835.4611@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
>In article <1jl1boINN9pn@cobra.cs.ubc.ca> mueller@cs.ubc.ca (Stephan Mueller) writes:
>>Yes, OS/2 and Windows NT both use the backslash for filenames.  The
>>reason is backwards compatibility.  The original reason for using
>>the backslash, is that DOS 1.0 had no subdirectories at all, and had
>>decided to use the forward slash to specify options.  Once that standard
>>was set, it wasn't feasible to use the forward slash for directories
>>and hence the backslash was used. 
>
>Ugh, I'll pass then.  Maybe someone will write a shell for OS/2 and WinNT
>to provide them with the standard slash.

Probably.  Similar things exist for the Amiga.  Unfortunately, not all
problems are solved this way.  Any applications you run will expect
paths with backslashes in them still, and this could be confusing:
for example, don't expect any C source files containing a path in
an #include directive to work with forward slashes.

>>stephan("who never heard it called a retard slash before");
>It's in reference to the fact that MS-DOS is retarded and having to 
>type the damn thing is a total pain in the ass.  

I gathered that.  However, the fact that MS-DOS is retarded is
independent of the mobile location of the \ key.

stephan(:-);
From: kar5@po.CWRU.Edu (Kevin A. Roll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Announcing a new GUI
Date: 25 Jan 1993 19:23:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: kar5@po.CWRU.Edu (Kevin A. Roll)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


DISCLAIMER:   :) :) :) :) :) :)

Enough of this bickering about who has the better GUI. Forget Workbench,
Finder, and Windows. SluSoft is proud to present a revolution in
GUI technology:

MALCOLM X WINDOWS!

Yes, this is the most radical thing to hit the screen since rasterized
displays. This software will rally together the components of your
system to create a better user interface. Any component which resists will
be dealt with violently. 

Sure, there are a few bugs; the executable file has a habit of frequently
changing its name, and eventually stops working altogether. But for a while,
your screen will light up with fireworks like you've never seen! Order
your copy today!


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From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Move
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:22:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbmger.10608
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <1993Jan25.162110.14773@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
 >Eyvind Bernhardsen (eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO) wrote:
 >:
 >: Also, why would the directory separator on its own be the root?  (This also
 >: annoys me in UNIX).
 >
 >So that you don't have to exclude another character, like ":", from the set
 >of valid file name characters.

Hmm, do you want to tell us that you can use a colon as part of a MS-DOS
(or Windows or OS/2) filename? As far as I know this is not possible.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Strangely, I didn't find any reference to this
in a MS-DOS 5.0 manual (written by Microsoft), only in an ancient DOS 3.2
manual written by Commodore: There is a list of allowed characters in
filenames, and the colon is not among them.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: danaf@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: Move
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 08:23:12 GMT

In article <C1A2B2.HAn@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason 'KodaK' Balicki) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan22.162023.19198@usl.edu> das9674@ucs.usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:

|> >OS/2, the OS we WERE talking about, doens't have any 640K barrier.  And
|> >what does it say for Amigas that MSDOS can run some better applications than
|> >an Amiga with NO 640K barrier.  Right, that there is the ol' Amiaa 
|> >'I might not have a hard drive or more than a meg, anyway' barrier.  Note:
|> >YOU sure don't point things like this out, ad nauseum.
|> 
|> You're losing it Dan, that last paragraph makes no sense.

It makes a lot of sense - far too much. 

*GRUMBLE*

Don't get me started again...

|> >Dan Stephenson   das9674@usl.edu
|> 
|> -- 
|> Jason Balicki | kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu

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From: cmp0119@sys.uea.ac.uk (Paul Harrison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: GIF<>IFF, TIFF<>IFF
Summary: IF IFF could TIFF or GIF!
Keywords: IFF TIFF GIF
Date: 24 Jan 93 17:09:17 GMT
Organization: UEA School of Information Systems, Norwich, UK.


I need programs to convert IFF ILBM (etc) files to TIFF format and GIF format
(for totally unconnected reasons). I can find plenty of stuff to do the
(TIFF|GIF)->IFF conversion, but that isn't what I want.

Apologies if it's a FAQ, but can anyone point me in the direction of PD/Freeware
software that does the job, and where I might be able to download it from?


Paul
cmp0119@uk.ac.uea.sys
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: mnemonic@netcom.com (Rev Lebaredian)
Subject: Re: Imagine 3.0 WHO CARES!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:52:01 GMT

mikel@bbs.draco.bison.mb.ca (Michael Linton) writes:
: Essence is one of the neatest texture packages around IMHO.  It has I 
: believe 64 textures in the package, ranging from floor tile, to various 
: forms of fratcal noise.  It's a VERY nice pacakge...  Check around on 
: some FTP sites, there's bound to be some pictures done with it. The 
: January Amazing Amiga has a little blurb on it as well.  There are also a 
: variety of Altitude textures... Well worth the cost I think.  If you're 
: into Imagine at all, you have to get Essence. :)

  I have pro-textures and am pretty happy with it.  How do you think it
compares with it?
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy)
Subject: Re: 16 Color Icons - Wb3.0
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:33:18 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1993Jan26.142412.1311@samba.oit.unc.edu> Ross.Knepper@launchpad.unc.edu (Ross Knepper) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.140949.727@samba.oit.unc.edu> Ross.Knepper@launchpad.unc.edu (Ross Knepper) writes:
>>You mean you can get a 16 color Workbech with Wb3.0!? HOW??
>That may have been unclear.  I know you can get up to 256 colors,
>but the preferences only lets you edit 8.

Ahh, I see now. The only reason you can edit 8 of the colors is becuase
Workbench itself can use only eight. Icons, which are just bitmaps
can have as many colors as you want and the OS will try to pick
the right ones. You need a decent icon editor that can handle more than
just the 8 colors supported by the Workbench icon editor.

>
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>>>  "Given enough time, the impossible becomes probable, and the probable
>>>	inevitable.."  -George Wald, "On the Origins of Life"
>>
>>- Ross Knepper
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: pooler@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Robert Peter Poole)
Subject: Re: Rend24 version 1.05 -- has *anyone* gotten this thing to wo
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:37:03 GMT

In article <74416@cup.portal.com> Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser) writes:
>>
>>How can someone release a program as shareware without doing the basic
>>tests to insure that it runs on at least a good subset of the Amiga
>>computers.  I can't believe that AmigaWorld's shareware reviewer gave this
>>program rave reviews.  Makes me wonder whether they do anything except read
>>the docs.
>>
>>
>>-- Rob Poole
>>pooler@rpi.edu
>>pooler@cs.rpi.edu
>
>You'll notice that in my Amiga World article (Jan '93 issue), I talked
>about and gave a screenshot of Rend24 version 1.04f. NOT 1.05. 
>1.04f worked perfectly well for me. I used it many times to load in
>SINGLE JPEGs and GIFs. I've not even downloaded nor tried 1.05
>myself.  If you think I wrote that article solely based on 
>reading programs' docs, you are incredibly mistaken. We have 1.05 on
>Portal. I'll d/l it today and see what's what with it. 
>
>Harv Laser

Someone has just sent me private email regarding the configuration of
Rend24.  It seems that Rend24 relies on an external program to do its
viewing of single frames as well as animations.  I can understand the author
not adding an animation viewer internally to Rend24 since that is not what
the program is all about.  However, since I know for a fact that Rend24 has
the ability to display images to screen during conversion, WHY doesn't it
include a little extra code to allow the user to view images before and after
conversion.  This person who emailed me suggested that I reconfigure Rend24
to use ViewTek.  Hmmmm...

Incidentally, Mr. Laser, I noticed that you didn't mention HamLab+ in your
`best shareware of 92' article.  Is there a particular reason for this
seeming oversight?

-- Rob Poole
From: bjarrett@cs.strath.ac.uk (Ben M O Jarrett CS92)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Help me with my HAM ....
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:59:38 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Strathclyde, Glasgow, UK



Can someone out there tell me how to display HAM8 pics on an A1200?

As when I was using PPshow ( the latest one ) it gave me the error
Display mode not available on this machine.

I had my A1200 running 256 colour WB though :?

I thought to access AGA modes, you select 256 colour WB, is that right???


----------------------------------------------------------

Is anyone out there writing a PD GIF convertor to IFF 256 colour /HAM8 ????





Thanks for any help!!!!!!!

Ben Jarrett


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From: chrisw@fciad2.bsd.uchicago.edu (chris williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: JPEG compressions
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:06:51 GMT
Organization: FCIA Univ. of Chicago


    In my experience with JPEG, the more complex an image, the better it
JPEGs. "Simple" scenes with broad colors show a type of "pixel noise"
at transitions from one broad area of color to another. Logo-type images
do not compress well, as text show this noise on edges. It is minimized
with complex surface treatments and high quality anti-aliasing.

   I've used JPEG successfully in two recent projects. The first one was
a soap bubble, and I had to render it at home and transport the frames
elsewhere to lay to tape. With a JPEG quality setting of 75 on 160
24-bit images at 756 by 486 res, I managed to fil the whole thing on
two floppys! This worked because the images had a very high level of
anti-aliasing and the bubble enviorment map was very complex, but had
areas that were similar enough to one another that it could compress
well.
  
   The second project involved a putting a fireplace into a scene. The
idea of *building* fire for a 4-second effect in a holiday scene was
insane. So I found a tape of a fireplace and frame-grabbed 120 frames
at a quality of 50, and brought them home. I left the images in JPEG
format until each frame was to render, then un-JPEG'd one to use as
that frames texture map an then over-wrote the IFF on the next frame.

   It's a wonderful tool if you can understand it strengths and
weaknesses.

                                    Chris Williams
                                      chrisw@fciad2.bsd.uchicago.edu
                                      katefans@chinet.chi.il.us