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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:14:00 CST
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From:         ACADMARG@STMARYTX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Infotrack, SPIRS and Wilson on the same LAN

When we set up our network we dropped our subscriptions to Academic
Index because of the fact that it did not do well on networks and also
because the price seemed exorbitant when compared to other products.

We picked up a network subscription to UMI's Periodical Abstracts
Research II for much less and it is easily networkable.  So I guess
you have gathered from this that I don't have the answer to making
Infotrac work on a network.  If you are already using other Wilson
indexes, you might want to think about replacing Infotrac with one
or more of their comparable products.  On the other hand, I don't
find the Wilson user interface to be as friendly as the UMI interface,
though there are places where UMI could also use a little work.

Everyone was geared up for lots of user complaints when we dropped
Infotrac and added Periodical Abstracts, but nothing at all happened.

In fact, we had so many compliments on the expanded access offered
by the CD-ROM network that we don't think anyone even noticed the
changeover.

Regarding the second question about how to get applications to exit
to a menu, I have talked to both UMI and Silverplatter reps who say
this is something they are planning to include in future releases.
I don't know when that will happen though.  In the meantime, there
is a program called Shepard which you can program to exit particular
applications.  I have a copy of it and I have been working with it
but I don't have it right yet so I haven't installed it on our
network.  This is shareware so if you can't find a copy somewhere I
can mail you a disk.

(If anyone else out there is using Shepard and has the programming
for UMI, Silverplatter, Dialog, Books In Print, and Marcive Government
Documents, I'd sure like to hear from you.  I just can't seem to
scrape up the time to get everything done that I'd like to do
and this application requires some experimentation to get it right.

BTW, you don't say exactly what you have on your network, but if it
is Infotrac Academic Index and you also have several of the Wilson
Indexes you may have a big overlap in indexed titles.  I haven't kept
up with what is indexed where by both of these companies but I'm sure
a lot of it is the same.  In addition to trying to get a reasonably
friendly user interface when we purchase CDs (not always possible),
we also tried to get CDs which didn't index a lot of the same titles.
We tried to buy things which indexed most of the titles we owned in
the library.

Anyway, this message is certainly more than long enough.  Good luck
with you applications.  Let me know if you need any more information.

Margaret Sylvia
Acquisitions & Collection Development Dept. Head
CD-ROM Network Systems Administrator
St. Mary's University Academic Library
One Camino Santa Maria
San Antonio, TX 78228-8608
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:11:00 EST
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From:         "D.E. 'Dave' Bloomberg" <BLOOMBER@FAUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: DATAWARE (v3.1) based products....

Hi CDROMLANers!!

Information Snigglet of the Week  (ISOTW):

I offer the following information in hopes that it might help someone
avoid the frustrations I experiened last week.

After having been totally frustrated in an attempt to install
"Computing Archive" for evaluation purposes on our CDROM LAN, I was forced
to call NISC Tech Support, and then to call Dataware Tech Support.

Dataware has a newer version of their retrieval software (v3.1)  It has
a couple quirks in it, that were not documented with our Computing
Archive Manual.  The following items apply only to Dataware v3.1 :

        A) Force the software to use a unique station based TEMP
           sub-dir by starting the software with the following command
           in a batch file:

           DW /TMP:\DATA\STUDENT\%STATION%        %STATION% is a DOS
           variable set to equal the Novell %STATION variable during
           execution of the system login Script.

        B) If you name an IOPath in the _DW_.CFG file, as in

           IOPath = "A:"

           to prevent downloaded data to clutter the server's drive, you
           "*MUST!!*" have a floppy in the A: drive upon program startup, or
           it won't start; also it MUST be there when you exit the
           program!!

        C) There should be a line in your _DW_.CFG file that starts
           with:

           Options = a series of 18 numbers, with the 18th set to 1,
           turns off the Shell to DOS Menu option.  One of them is the
           default Printer lines-per-page setting.  Not sure what
           all the others do.

        D) In the _DW_.CFG file, there should be a line like:

           Driver = "FS_ISGEN=MSCD001"     If you are using MSCDEX,
                                           or similiar.   We are
                                           using CBIS v2.20 C, and
                                           required a different line:
           Driver = "D:\"

           because the software has some enhancements from their 2.01B
           version where the entry looked like:

           Driver = "FS_MSCDX=D:\"


Thanks to David Bortone at Dataware for his time and willingness to
help me complete this.

Hope this helps someone out there.  %$#%@@%#^ I found another gray hair
...OUCH...okay now its gone...8-)

Contact me directly for any other specific data....

Standard Disclaimers Apply....


Dave Bloomberg
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I have a unit of CBIS cdserver.  I would like to purchase one more CBIS
SCSI card for the server to connect to 7 new cd drives.  Unfortunately,
the only distributor who markets this product in Singapore has
"disappeared".

Could anybody tell me whether there are different types of SCSI card for
the CBIS server and how much does one cost ?  Who could I purchase it from ?

Thank you.

Vivien Lim
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Subject:      SCSI CARD SOURCES

Vivien Lim of the Nat'l Univ. of Singapore writes:

>I would like to purchase an additional CBIS SCSI card to add 7 drives to
>an existing CBIS CD-Server.  [paraphrased]

Vivien: You have a couple of choices:

1.  You apparently must purchase a complete expansion chassis in order to
    get the original ASC-88 SCSI card which works with the CBIS device
    driver.  If you do this, you should go ahead and purchase the 16-bit
    version of the card.  You may also want to replace your current card
    with the 16-bit version as well.  I believe that the new card is the
    ASC-86 (don't quote me on that--I don't have the docs in front of me).
    Again, they don't sell the cards separately, and if you are using the
    CBIS device driver, you won't want to mix and match various cards.

2.  You could go out and buy another brand of SCSI card and supply your
    own tower.  Again, you will need to change from the CBIS device
    driver to the one supplied with the card.  You probably should also
    replace your current card at the same time.

At any rate, you will probably want to contact CBIS directly to ask them
further questions and to find a distributor (or order direct).  Their
sales number is (404)446-1332  [USA].

Good luck, and hope the information helps!

Arne J. Almquist
Assistant to the Director of Libraries for
Networking and Microcomputer Resources
University of N. Texas--Libraries
P.O. Box 5188
Denton, TX  76203-0188

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Subject: Re: DATAWARE (v3.1) based products....
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:56:00 GMT
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    I believe that the Dataware engine v3.1 now prevents access to the
    tree structure based also on the   "IOPath"  setting in the
    _DW_.CFG ; I recall that the quirk requiring a diskette to be in the
    drive at startup and end, was caused by the program accessing the
    same  "IOPath"  parameter instead of a separate  "DownLoadPath"  type
    of parameter.

    In other words, if you've set an   IOPath = "A:\"    then you are
    prevented from accessing any other data path.  I think this
    addresses what Tom brought up; which SHOULD be a HUGE concern for
    those of you who are just getting your feet wet with this
    networking stuff.  Granting excessive RIGHTS to users is asking
    for trouble.  The largest amount of my time to date has been spent
    fighting with software, making sure that the users do NOT end up
    with access to anywhere they shouldn't.  We are relying on our
    password protection from our menu program to do the rest.

    So far, that combination has worked well.  Also, we boot off of
    the server using BootWare PROMS on our ethernet cards, so our
    situation is a little different than many others who are booting
    from hard drives.  We tried to build-in some extra security by
    not equipping our stations with hard drives.  I was confused at
    first as to why this makes good sense, but now I think it is the
    best way to go ( and we can always add drives later)....

    Dave Bloomberg
    BLOOMBER@FAUVAX
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:40:43 CST
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From:         Elvio Pederzolli <elviop@SLSA.SA.GOV.AU>
Subject:      windows 3.1 and cd roms

>
>
> Gidday,
>
> We had been happily accessing and using cd roms on a novel netware network
> using windows 3.0 and CBIS CD Connection XCDREDIR (version 2.20C) and CDUSE.
 (using HP Vectras as workstations)>
> Then along comes windows 3.1 - so we upgrade and what happens - there is a
> conflict between windows 3.1 and the cd connection software, we can still see
> the network drives from a workstation but the cd rom drives  are no longer
> accessible. Even if you shell out of windows from the MSDOS prompt, cd roms
 cant be
> accessed.
>
> The cd roms can be searched as long as windows is not loaded (ie from a DOS
> prompt) - but we wish to work in a GUI environment.
>
 According to the local Australian agent, CBIS are aware of this problem and
 are working on it and expect to have a solution "in the near future"  ???????

 Does anyone have any idea how long this will take ?
 Perhaps people in the USA who are working in the windows environment may wish
 to
press CBIS to ensure that the "near future" is not too far away.
> Please let me know if there is any progress.
>
> Regards Elvio P.
>
>
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Subject:      Re: Cdroms on a campus network

We have 33 CD-ROM drives (plus 3 "virtual CD drives" on hard disc) on our
CD-ROM system.  We are running CBIS CD-Connection and have two CD-Servers.
One is a 486/33 ISA box, the other a 386/20 ISA (shortly to be upgraded).
We run over Novell NetWare 3.11 and have 15 dedicated public access
workstations located in 2 buildings.  We have approximately 130 total
workstations within the Libraries (5 buildings, mostly in offices) which all
hit the CD-ROMs fairly heavily.  In addition, over 1,500 PCs, located campus-
wide can access the CD-ROMs through our Novell Internetwork.

Arne J. Almquist
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Networking and Microcomputer Resources
Univ. of N. Texas--Libraries
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From:         "Tim Kambitsch,
              Butler University Libraries" <KAMBITSCH@BUTLERU.BITNET>
Subject:      Infotrack, SPIRS and Wilson on the same LAN

I've just mounted a CD-ROM server on our campus LAN (using DECs Inforserver 150
and Virtual Microsystem's CD-Tower) and generally I've been quite please
with the results.  One of the problems that I'm trying to solve is the awkward
way in which user access and exit specific CD-ROM products.

The Information Access EF search software requires that you start the database
by first selecting the search software from a menu which includes editing
the journal holdings file and the printing and display options.  IAC didn't
have any solutions when I called.  Certainly I don't want end users editting
our holdings file, and I certain other CD-ROM LAN managers have this problem.

Both Wilson and SilverPlatter have mechanisms which allow you to specify in
the .BAT files which database to mount.  Using 5th Generation Software's Direct
Access Network menuing software, I've been able to get the Wilson and
SilverPlatter software to go directly from the menu to the search prompt.  But
again, with Information Access I have to choose a specific database even
when I only have one to choose from.

At the other endof things, all the vendors have timeout features which
allow one set how long before the software returns to the "introductory"
screen of the search software, but is there any way to terminate
the search program all together and return to my main menu?

Tim Kambitsch                           Phone:  317-283-9949
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From:         Michael Manning <manning@CC.UQ.OZ.AU>
Subject:      Re: UPS for CD-ROMs?

On Wed, 7 Oct 1992, Jim Aagaard wrote:

> Since CD-ROMs can't be updated, logic would seem to indicate that only
> the file server (using SCSI Express) needs to be protected by a UPS.
> But does anyone know whether the server might hang up or refuse to
> close its own files when the attached CD-ROM drives have lost power?
>
>                           Jim Aagaard
>                           Northwestern University Library
>                           aagaard@nwu.edu

Our fileserver runs scsi express and has a ups which powers only the
fileserver and its monitor.  We lost power last Saturday for 30 mins which
the ups handled well.  When the power returned workstations were able to
access the cdroms on the server without any problem.

Michael Manning                    phone +61 7 365 6218
Central Library                    fax   +61 7 365 6888
University of Queensland           email manning@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au
St. Lucia, Q 4072
Australia
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