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From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Foliage info phone numbers
Date: 27 Sep 92 18:31:38 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: I.E.C.C.

>Here is something of use: A list of (mostly 800) phone numbers to get the
>latest info about the state of the foliage -

The Vermont numbers have changed.  Call:

	1-800-833-9756 or 1-802-828-3239

The 800 number connects to a system that faxes back pages of travel info, but
if you don't have a fax, enter any dummy phone number when it asks for your
fax number and select the voice foliage update from the menu.

NEW YORK:	1-800-225-5697

>MASSACHUSETTS:  1-800-343-9072 (outside MA) or 1-800-632-8038 (in MA)
>MAINE:          1-800-533-9595
>NEW HAMPSHIRE:  1-800-258-3608  or  1-800-262-6660
>CONNECTICUT:    1-800-282-6863
>RHODE ISLAND:   1-800-566-2484 (outside RI)
>
>U.S. Forest service (a 4 minute message, updated every Thursday morning):
>		1-202-475-3780


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Newsgroups: ne.general
From: jclander@maestro.mitre.org (Julian C. Lander)
Subject: Re: Boston Bridges (was Re: Ft. Devens Airport)
Reply-To: jclander@maestro.mitre.org (Julian C. Lander)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va
Distribution: ne
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:27:28 GMT

In article <7314@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>, blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
|> 
|> The Callahan Tunnel was opened in the mid-60's, I believe.
|> Can you imagine a world where the two lanes of the Sumner
|> Tunnel were the permanent (not only midnight) way to
|> traverse the harbor? 
|> 

No, mid-60's is much too late. I grew up on the north shore, and
went back and forth a lot, and I don't remember 2-way traffic.  (I
was born in 1958, so by the mid-60's I was big enough to remember
such things.)  The Callahan Tunnel is certainly later than 1966.

|> The Tobin Bridge was not always the Tobin Bridge. It used
|> to be called the "Mystic River Bridge" - a much nicer name
|> since it's obvious why we might need a bridge to cross the
|> Mystic River, but not so obvious why we need a bridge to
|> cross Maurice Tobin. Some old-timers may slip and revert to
|> the old name.

I vaguely remember that when the renaming was done, there was 
a lot of discussion about it.  There were people who disapproved.

Julian C. Lander
jclander@mitre.org
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: gregb@murphy.com (Greg Banschbach (Unigroup of New York))
Subject: Anyone know of Pub. Unix near Nashua, NH ?
Organization: Murphy & Durieu, New York, NY
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 13:16:07 GMT


	Hello fellow netters,

		A friend of mine needs free or cheap public access to the
	net OR we'd like to set up a chain  between New Hampshire and 
	New York ( through MA and CT ).   Any takers ?  I beleive we can
	also get it to go as far south as Delaware (?).   


		Email to:  gregb\@murphy.com  
		On Land :  Greg Banschbach
			   110-16  72nd Ave.  #306
			   Forest Hills,  NY   11375
From: gregm@planet10.WPI.EDU (Gregory M Marr)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Recycling 2l Bottles
Date: 27 Sep 1992 06:16:41 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: ne
NNTP-Posting-Host: planet10.wpi.edu

In article <96873@bu.edu> navsaria@bass.bu.edu (Dipesh Navsaria) writes:
>
>   Interesting...back home in NYC, some supermarkets had this cool machine
>that was about the size of a standard soda machine.  You would just put the
>can or bottle into this little hatch, this little laser scanner would read
>the UPC code to verify it was returnable, and then you'd hear this nasty
>*kchunk* sound as the bottle was compressed and placed somewhere in the bowels
>of the machine.
I used one of these once, I don't remember which store it was in. It
was somewhere in the Springfield, MA area. I haven't been back to the
store, and it was a few years ago. The machine flattened the cans, and
shredded the plastic bottles. (Someone came along soon after I was
there and opened up the machine.)
It would keep track of how many items you put in, and for every five
it gave you a quarter. If you had less than a .25 credit at the end,
you just pressed a button, and it gave you your money. The bottle had
to have the UPC code, and it wouldn't accept certain ones. (brands the
store didn't sell.)


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Newsgroups: ne.general
From: spike@coke.std.com (Joe Ilacqua)
Subject: Re: Recycling 2l Bottles
Followup-To: ne.general
Organization: Software Tool & Die
Distribution: ne
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:28:35 GMT

In article <96873@bu.edu> navsaria@bass.bu.edu (Dipesh Navsaria) writes:
<   Interesting...back home in NYC, some supermarkets had this cool machine
<that was about the size of a standard soda machine.  You would just put the
<can or bottle into this little hatch, this little laser scanner would read
<the UPC code to verify it was returnable, and then you'd hear this nasty
<*kchunk* sound as the bottle was compressed and placed somewhere in the bowels
<of the machine.

	Purity in Watertown replaced their bottle return "window" with
a collection of these machines.  (This was part of a big store
upgrade).  Must be fun to put full cans of soda in them.

->Spike
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The Truly K00L don't have signatures.
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: jclander@maestro.mitre.org (Julian C. Lander)
Subject: Re: Ft. Devens Airport
Followup-To: ne.general
Reply-To: jclander@maestro.mitre.org (Julian C. Lander)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:43:19 GMT

In article <lcjo6vINNq35@news.bbn.com>, rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep29.134715.4087@westford.ccur.com>, chuck@westford.ccur.com (Chuck Palmer) writes:
|>  
|> |> 	Although no one wants an airport runway at the end of their street,
|> |> it is bound to happen some place around Boston some day. The problem is that
|> |> Logan Airport is one of the most inaccessable airports in the country, IMHO.
|> 
|> Huh?  Logan Airport is one of the most convenient in the country--
|> just a few minutes from downtown Boston.   For an inaccessible
|> airport, check out Dulles, which is about 88 miles west of DC
|> (or feels like it).  Or Pittsburgh.  Or Dallas-Fort Worth...

Well, actually, it depends on your criteria.  I always approached
Logan from the north and west, so I came in on route 16 (the
Revere Beach Parkway).  If you need to use the Callahan tunnel to
reach it, you're in trouble.  (If you try to use the Sumner, you're
in worse trouble--the Sumner goes south.)  So the driving accessibility
varies depending on where you are.  Of course, if you take the T,
it's not that bad, but I never travel that light.

Now that I live in Virginia, I've been using Dulles.  I live near the
beltway, so it's less than 20 miles on a never-crowded highway.  Parking
is cheap--$6/day at a satellite lot (they have a shuttle bus), or
$9/day steps away from the terminal.  (Closer than Logan central
parking--more like the parking garages on each terminal.)  Either
of those is cheaper than Logan.  The shuttle bus did fill on a Friday
afternoon at about 4:00, with a wait in traffic in front of the 
terminal.  Dulles is about 25 miles from DC, in a direct line, but
it can take a while because the roads do fill up.  (The road is 
airport-exclusive only for the last 15 miles or so--you still need to
get to it.)

I have also flown out of National.  Access is not as good as Dulles
(by car).  (If you take the Metro, it is trivial.  But I drive.)  
Parking is expensive.  Terminal is crowded.  There are more frequent
flights (I fly almost exclusively between DC and Boston), so I just
plan carfully.  Also, I always get lost leaving the airport (it's
nastier to drive around than Logan, especially with the construction). 

My big complaint about Dulles is neither of these.  To get from the 
door of the terminal to your plane, you have to do the following:
	1) Wait in line to check baggage, if you have any
	2) Wait to go through security
	3) Wait for the shuttle vehicle to take you to the "midfield
		terminal"
	4) Wait at the gate.

Somehow step (3), which is not needed at National or Logan, is the
killer.  For one thing, you can't wander around the airport if you
have time to kill--the shuttle trip takes too long. (At least for
me--I'm convinced that if I wait 5 extra minutes, the shuttle will
break down and I'll miss my plane.)

Julian C. Lander
jclander@mitre.org


Newsgroups: ne.general
From: tonym@world.std.com (Tony Matt)
Subject: Re: Two type of baybank machines: was: Anyone else get this from BayBank?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:26:39 GMT

In article <96871@bu.edu> navsaria@bass.bu.edu (Dipesh Navsaria) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.141345.12120@osf.org> ede@kadabra.osf.org (Ted Ede) writes:
>
>>I agree with you, baybank keeps the annoyance factor a just the level
>>to be aggravating.  
>
>   The most amusing sight I've seen in terms of ATM placement is in Kenmore
>Square...There's a BayBank with a row of ATM's in it, and right next door is
>a Store 24.  On the other side of the wall from the row of ATMs is a BayBank
>Xpress24 CASH.  Someone will fork out 75 cents extra just to avoid walking a
>few feet.  The sad thing is, it's true...

Oh, but how much things have improved, ATM-wise.  I first started using 
one in the late 70s at RPI, and it used a (slowly) rotating barrel to 
display one of ten or so messages.  This one machine was supposedly the 
second-most heavily used in NY State (the first being the one at Syracuse).
I still remember the frustration at waiting in a line of fifteen or so
students on a Friday evening, with many of the novice users checking their
balance, taking out ten dollars, then checking their balance _again_ to 
make sure the withdrawal was recorded correctly.  All the time with that
barrel moving at about 2 RPM...

Or the time I went to California, short on cash, but armed with my BayBanks
card.  The Cirrus machines out there knew nothing about it.  After returning
and reporting the problem to the manager of my local branch, the answer
eventually came back that there was some trouble with the network that
weekend.  Now I carry two different cards.

Tony Matt   tonym@world.std.com

Newsgroups: ne.general
From: vsh@etnibsd.uucp (Steve Harris)
Subject: Re: TNTNY
Organization: Eaton Corp, Semiconductor Equipment Div., Beverly, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:11:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.115346.7416@aoa.aoa.utc.com> carl@aoa.aoa.utc.com (Carl Witthoft) writes:
>
>Which stands for "The New 'The New Yorker'" :=)
>Just thought I'dstart a nonscientific study of the quality of TNY
>after the first Tina Brown issue came out.

Hmmm...  Which was her first issue?

I'm still reading the third part John McPhee's article about
California geology.


>My immediate reactions were:
>1) Articles certainly are shorter.  This is probably good, tho'
>they seemed extremely brief in some cases.
>2) One more odiferous scent add & I'm going to take the mag, roll
>it up, and jam it up Tina's nostril.

Yes, that's rather obnoxious -- I ripped out the offending pages the
moment the olfactory obscenity announced itself.  Although I'm sure
Tina is all for selling any kind of ad, I suspect this one was placed
before her tenure and cannot be directly attributed to her taking
over.

>
>Anybody else?
>

Well, if they ever insert pages of ads BEFORE the Table of Contents, or
if they break up articles into "continued at page xx" chunks, I'll kill
my subscription!
-- 
... Steve Harris - Eaton Corp. - Beverly, MA - uunet!etnibsd!vsh
From: benji@csa.bu.edu (Benjamin Cline)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: New Phone Rates for BU
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:30:10 GMT
Followup-To: ne.general
Distribution: ne
Organization: Boston University Computer Science Department
In-reply-to: navsaria@bass.bu.edu's message of 30 Sep 92 15:25:16 GMT


Just another reason _not_ to live on campus. 

I am boycotting AT&T's long distance service because I feel their (and their
subsidiary USL) policies on intellectual property are wrong. Fortunately I live
off campus, and give my LD business to U.S. Sprint, but I'd be very upset if I 
was forced to use AT&T! Imagine the storm of protest if BU chose a 
telecommunications provider that was heavily invested in S. Africa!!!

	benji

--
			    Benjamin Cline	
Boston University, Department of Computer Science	benji@cs.bu.edu
Systems Engineering, MathSoft, Inc.			benji@mathsoft.com
		"It's 3:00 am, I need a modem and some coffee!"
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From: ian@agranat.Agranat.com (Ian Douglas Agranat)
Newsgroups: ne.general,soc.women
Subject: Feminist Comedy Night 10/15 Burlington MA
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:58:56 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Agranat Systems Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: agranat.com


SHE WHO LAUGHS, LASTS
An Evening of Feminist Comedy

Featuring well-known Boston Area comics 

	- Lea DeLaria		- Jana Rivington
	- Peigi Cleminshaw	- Meigs Glidewell
	- Erica Bobone		- and many others...

Time:  Thursday, October 15 (doors open at 7:15PM, curtain at 8:00PM)
Place: Days Inn, Burlington, Massachusetts  (Exit 32B off Route 128/I-95)

Join us for an evening of laughter, good food and cheer, raffles, prizes, and
fun.  A good time is guaranteed for all.

Tickets $15, available at the door if not sold out.

A fundraiser, sponsored by Lexington Area NOW, to help elect feminist 
candidates (proceeds to Massachusetts NOW PAC).  For more information, email to 

 	gonzalez@sofbas.enet.dec.com, or
	ian@agranat.com
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: oaf@serverx.osf.org (Oded Feingold)
Subject: two subjeks; (1)leaves and Kenny,  (2) ATM machines
Followup-To: talk.bizarre
Summary: PC, ATM, 
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 15:26:21 GMT

(1)  STOP MAKING FUN OF KENNY, just because he can't understand the
	excitement about fall foliage!  Where he's from, there ARE no
	leaves, so he never developed a taste for them.  Show some
	sympathy for the sylvatically challenged, okay?

(2)  ATM machines are proliferating because the owner of Diebold is
	holding the sainted grandmother of a senior VP at Baybank in a
	cave in West Virginia, and is threatening to return her
	immediately if Baybank doesn't keep buying up the machines.
	The tremendous number of machines, and the associated upkeep,
	is causing Baybank to try to snatch money wherever they can,
	which in this case involves gouging the depositors.

Just because I don't have a master's (in Science) doesn't mean I
can't answer stupid questions.

Oded Feingold  oaf@osf.org     Contractor at  Open Software Foundation
OSF:   11  Cambridge Center    Cambridge,  Ma. 02142    (617) 621-7265
Home:  408 Broadway, apt. 3    Somerville, Ma. 02145    (617) 776-1225
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: ede@kadabra.osf.org (Ted Ede)
Subject: Re: New Phone Rates for BU
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:12:43 GMT

In article <97127@bu.edu> navsaria@bass.bu.edu (Dipesh Navsaria) writes:
>   While the long distance portion of the changes did not affect me to a great
>extent, I was annoyed at the new rates they've set up.  It cost me $9.88 a
>month over the summer for basic measured phone service and touch-tone, and now
>for that same service (plus the supposedly "free" features which I don't want
>nor need), I'm being charged over 14 dollars.

$4.22 more per month?  Over nine months that's almost $38.  I'm sure
they hosed you more for tuition and room and board this year, probably
by 8-12%.  Have your teachers become 8 to 12% better over the summer?
Has the size of your room or the quality of the food increased by 8 to
12%?  I doubt it.

If you find the added $38 absolutely interlerable, why don't you leave
the school.  I hear telephone rates are still pretty reasonable at 
Northeastern.  Why don't you apply for a transfer?

Or maybe you could do something really radical, like get service
directly from New England Telephone.  But, whoa, hold onto that $38.
The installer will want it to connect up the phone.  You'll then have
the privilege of paying higher rates for less service.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

   Ted Ede -- ted@world.std.com -- on contract at the Open Software Foundation
      -- All views expressed are mine unless explicitly stated otherwise --
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From: kyrouz@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Bill Kyrouz)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: New Phone Rates for BU
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:47:00 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst



   Just say no to ACUS:  We've had it up at UMASS for the last
few semesters, and ACUS is considerably more expensive then the
normal AT&T rates (I've sinced moved off campus..).  I'd
shop around and find the best calling card...

  I gather BU has one of those handy-dandy digital phone systems now
as well?-- The one's where they charge you for stuff you don't want
(as you mentioned), where you have to wait for an outgoing line
to make a long distance phone call on some nights...  
The kind where the administration has a picture of your name
and number on a little screen when you call them.  Wonderful
bit of technology eh? *grumble*
Newsgroups: ne.general,ne.food
From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: Re: Restaurant on Mohawk Trail (Rt 2)
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: ne
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:20:02 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.160419.4705@spdcc.com>, jin@spdcc.com (Jerry Natowitz) writes:
|> I vaguely remember that there is a restaurant on the Mohawk Trail, perhaps
|> on a bend in the road that is quite scenic.  Anyone know what I'm thinking
|> of?  Name, location, how much of a tourist trap, etc.?

I forget the name, but this describes a place just above North Adams.  Not
much of a tourist trap at all.
-- 
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Open Software Foundation			uunet!osf.org!dbrooks
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Newsgroups: ne.general
From: ed@odi.com (Ed Schwalenberg)
Subject: Inbound vs. Outbound
Organization: Object Design, Inc.
Distribution: ne
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 18:44:03 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.223154.7209@etnibsd.uucp> vsh@etnibsd.uucp (Steve Harris) writes:
	  ==== Boston parochialism flame ON ====
  ...

	  ==== Flame [allegedly -Ed.] Off ====

  Anyway, I finally came up with a mnemonic to distinguish the Sumner and
  the Callihan tunnels:

      .	"Sumner" has 2 syllables,
      .	"in" has 2 letters,
      .	the Sumner tunnel is inbound

      .	"Callahan" has 3 syllables,
      .	"out" has 3 letters,
      .	the Callihan tunnel is outbound.

I've always found the use of "inbound" vs. "outbound" to be the most confusing
aspect of the MBTA, and now you're trying to use it to help me figure out how
to get "out" of the airport and "in" to the city.  Or is it "out" of the city
and "in" to the airport?  (Of course, it's neither "in" nor "out" of the city
because both ends of both tunnels are within the city limits.)

Sardonic question: which way is the third harbor tunnel going to go?
From: yuan1@husc10.harvard.edu (Nina Yuan)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Buying baseball caps?
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:00:15 GMT
Distribution: ne

A strange question, but I could have sworn I read an article in a recent
"Boston" magazine (I think) about a company around here that sells old-
fashioned baseball caps (where you can specify the style of a given year
and so on...) in the $20 or so range.  Can anyone point me to such a 
company, either here, in NYC, or mail-order?

Thanks in advance!
-nhy



-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nina H. Yuan                               "It's a miracle that curiosity
Harvard College                             survives formal education."
yuan1@husc.harvard.edu                                  - Albert Einstein
From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Ft. Devens Airport
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:26:05 GMT
Followup-To: talk.flame
Organization: I.E.C.C.

>The problem is that
>Logan Airport is one of the most inaccessable airports in the country, IMHO.

After careful research, I have determined that the most inaccessible
airport in the country is in Dutch Harbor, Alaska.  Why, to get there I
have to drive about 6000 miles, much of which is on a rough remote road,
then get on a boat for two days and sail out among the Aleutian Islands.
What a dumb place to put an airport -- the only people who can get to it
are the ones who actually live on the same island, and there are only a
few thousand of them.  It would have made much more sense to put that
airport someplace convenient like, say, East Boston.  Or maybe Worcester.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {spdcc|ima|world}!iecc!johnl
From: test@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Test Account)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: SINGLES BENEFIT DANCE FOR HABITAT
Date: 1 Oct 1992 13:04:03 GMT
Organization: Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
Distribution: ne
NNTP-Posting-Host: mbcrr.harvard.edu
Originator: test@mbcrr

   SINGLES BENEFIT DANCE FOR HABITAT

Sponsored by Fellowship of Catholic Adults.
All single young adults (20's & 30's)
Saturday, October 3, from 8:30PM to 1:AM
Knights of Columbus, 130 Lexington St, Burlington

Tickets are $10.00 at the door.  All profits
go to Habitat For Humanity in Lynn which 
continues to house people in need.

DIRECTIONS:
Take 128 North or South to exit 32B (Burlington).  At end of ramp turn
right--go past the main entrance of the mall.  Proceed to the next
set of lights (Victoria Station is on the left) and take a right on
Mall Road.  Follow to the first set of lights (past Bradlees) and take
a left on Lexington Street.  The K. of C. entrance is 1/4 mile on
the left (set back off the road).
From: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Ft. Devens Airport
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:43:19 GMT
Reply-To: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Distribution: ne
Organization: Horizon Research


=> In article <1992Sep28.151638.72813@uvmark.uucp> tom@uvmark.uucp
=> (Tom Rauschenbach) writes:
=> >I have seen and read many arguments against a new airport at Ft.
Devens.  Many
=> >of these seem pretty convincing.  I have not however heard the other side.
=> >Is anybody out there in favor of this new airport ?  If so, what are the 
=> >arguments for it ? 

The arguments for a Ft. Devens airport are, if a plane should crash
near the airport.... it's only Ayer :-)