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From: lees@cps.msu.edu (John Lees)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: 3-D viewing on a Sun
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:08:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Michigan State University
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Originator: lees@ahmeek.cps.msu.edu

I've been asked to find out if there is any product available to allow
viewing of stereoscopic images on a Sun workstation. One person told
me he had seen a setup using a double-buffered framebuffer and special
glasses with shutters synced to the CRT refresh. Any pointers appreciated.
Please reply via email. Thanks.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: miller@loral.cts.com (BIG DAVE)
Subject: Teac FD-235HS.
Organization: Loral Instrumentation
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 21:16:55 GMT

Folks, I have a Teac FD-235HS711 3.5" floppy disk drive with SCSI Interface
controller that I am trying to integrate into a system controlled by a
Force Computers' CPU 2CE/16, running Sun OS 4.1.2. The problem is that this
particular FDD is formated for DOS. Does anyone know where I can find a UNIX
(Sun OS) implementation of a driver for the said disk drive ?

I would deeply appreciate any help in regards to this matter.

			       Yours truly,  BIG DAVE.

David P. Miller - Loral Instrumentation. 
15378 Avenue of Science, San Diego, California  92128-3407    /    USUAL   \
1 (619) 674-5100                USA                           \ DISCLAIMER /

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: guest@ach.ucalgary.ca (Default Trumpet User)
Subject: Hard drive for small network
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 17:44:46 GMT
Organization: Behavioral Research Unit


Our research group has an ethernet network consisting of PCs running BW-NFS 
connected to a SUN SPARCstation ELC. We have been backing up or MS-DOS files 
using a tape drive connected to a networked PC but would like to install an 
external SCSI tape drive that we could use to back up everything on the 
server.

Our needs are quite modest. At the moment, we are using approx. 350 
MegaBytes of a 660 MB hard drive and the amount of storage we require is not 
increasing very rapidly.

From the enquiries I have made at the University and at local businesses, 
our options include an EXABYTE, DAT, or QIC drive. The QIC drives are the 
least expensive, but also have lower capacity (the largest QIC drive quoted 
was 525 MB). 

I would appreciate any input regarding the reliability, price and durability 
of each of these formats as well as any other feedback which would assist us 
in making the purchase.

Please reply by email to peter@ach.ucalgary.ca

I will summarize responses.

Pete


Pete Faris                    | the large print giveth
Data Analyst                  | and the small print taketh away
Alberta Children's Hospital   |
ph. 229-7365                  |                       Tom Waits
From: david@jake.EEAP.CWRU.Edu (David Nerenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Sun 2/50 POST LED problem
Date: 25 Jan 1993 22:11:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: jake.eeap.cwru.edu

I have a sun 2/50 that I would like to get working a again,  (I know, 
a painful thought, but I can't stand to let it just sit there), but
when I power it up it never gives me a display (or tries to boot).
It appears halted in a power on test.  Below I have described what 
the LED's on the back show.  Does anyone have an old tech manual or
just happen to remember what this pattern means?

	Power on (looking at the back)
	The LEDs chase from right to left (from 8 to 1)
	If I number the LEDs as follows:  1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8,
	LEDs 1 & 5 come on and then immediately switch to LEDs 1 & 6
	The machine now appears halted.

				Any help would be appreciated,

						-Dave
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david@elwood.eeap.cwru.edu             David Nerenberg
73107,177 CompuServe                   Electrical Engineering & Applied Physics
NY:  H-516-751-6344                    Case Western Reserve University
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: shmuel@mapsut.einstein.com (Shmuel Einstein)
Subject: Bison: Am I ever politically incorrect.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:46:17 GMT
Organization: Shmuel Einstein & Associates, Inc.

Recently I posted an article stating that Bison was virtually
useless for any commercial application because of the restrictions
imposed by its license, which prohibits any use in non-free software.
I was taken to task by some respondents for being (1) incorrect, and
(2) sarcastic about the license's "pontification" about the evils
of non-free software.

Here's the details of Bison's license, copied verbatum from
bison.info-1:

"Conditions for Using Bison
**************************

   "Bison grammars can be used only in programs that are free software. 
This is in contrast to what happens with the GNU C compiler and the
other GNU programming tools.

   "The reason Bison is special is that the output of the Bison
utility--the Bison parser file--contains a verbatim copy of a sizable
piece of Bison, which is the code for the `yyparse' function.  (The
actions from your grammar are inserted into this function at one point,
but the rest of the function is not changed.)

   "As a result, the Bison parser file is covered by the same copying
conditions that cover Bison itself and the rest of the GNU system: any
program containing it has to be distributed under the standard GNU
copying conditions.

   "Occasionally people who would like to use Bison to develop
proprietary programs complain about this.

   "We don't particularly sympathize with their complaints.  The purpose
of the GNU project is to promote the right to share software and the
practice of sharing software; it is a means of changing society.  The
people who complain are planning to be uncooperative toward the rest of
the world; why should they deserve our help in doing so?"

End-quote.

Well, as you can see, you can't use Bison in a non-free product.
And, I'm still sarcastic.





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Shmuel Einstein, shmuel@einstein.com
Shmuel Einstein & Associates, Inc.
9100 Wilshire Blvd, Suite 235 E
Beverly Hills, CA  90212
310/273-8971 FAX 310/273-8872
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: pen@lysator.liu.se (Peter Eriksson)
Subject: Is this a Sun3 VMEbus math accelerator board or what?
Organization: Lysator ACS at Linkoping University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 11:02:59 GMT

I've got this Sun VMEbus board #501-1105, that the previous owner
claims is some kind of math accelerator board for Sun3 machines.
He thinks it used to sit in a Sun-3/110.

I was thinking of installing it into one of our Sun-3/280 servers
but since I don't have any information on it, I don't know how to
strap the backplane, configure the kernel or the board itself to
work with a Sun-3/280. Is there even any advantage of installing
it into a Sun-3/280? Could it be used in a Sun-3/60?

/Peter

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Peter Eriksson                                              pen@lysator.liu.se
Lysator Academic Computer Society                 ...!uunet!lysator.liu.se!pen
University of Linkoping, Sweden                I'm still bored. Flame me again.
From: samra@twics.co.jp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: SUN 4/60 - a good buy?
Date: 24 Jan 93 10:54:39 GMT
Organization: TWICS, Tokyo, Japan


There is a used SUN 4/60 Sparcstation with 8mb mem for sale here that
I am thinking of buying.  The seller wants around 2,300 US dollars for it.
I don't know whether this is a good price, or whether it would be better
to buy something newer.  I intend to use the machine I purchase as a 
database server, with RS232 interface as primary interface for user access
(at least for the time being).  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Charlie
From: scoggin@delmarva.com (John K. Scoggin, Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Looking for ethernet to manufacturer map
Date: 24 Jan 1993 18:41:39 GMT
Organization: Delmarva Power & Light Company
Distribution: world
Reply-To: scoggin@delmarva.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: mercury.delmarva.com

In article 3582@cbnewsh.cb.att.com, behzad@jolt.att.com (Behzad Nadji) writes:
> As you know, the first three bytes of the ethernet address determines
> the name of the manufacturer of the interface.  For a utility that I am
> writing, I need the corresponding mapping table.  Any ideas on where I
> can find one?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> Behzad Nadji					Internet: behzad@jolt.att.com
> AT&T Bell Labs					   Uunet: att!jolt!behzad
> 200 Laurel Ave., 4F-228			           Phone: (908) 957-6914
> Middletown, NJ 07748				     Fax: (908) 957-4215


Look on lcs.mit.edu in directory pub/map for a file called Ethernet-codes -
it is maintained by Mike Patton at the MIT Laboratory for Computer Science...

	- John
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From: igr@apl.Washington.EDU (Ignatius Rigor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: LX Shipping dates +3 months
Keywords: gripe
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:24:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1k20bgINNn8a
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Washington, Polar Science Center, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: nansen.apl.washington.edu

Has anyone out there actually received one of these LX's?  I ordered one in mid-december
and just got a ship date from Sun of 3/24/93.  Does anybody out there besides me think
that waiting over 3 months for an order is rather riduculous?

Ignatius igr@apl.washington.edu
From: damour@rocket.sanders.lockheed.com (Kevin Damour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Sparc 10 A/D - D/A 16bit linear conversion - question
Keywords: sparc10, A/D, audio
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:46:00 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Sanders, Inc.


Hello,
    We have just upgraded one of our systems to a SPARC 10.  There is this
great new audio input device that supports up to 16bit linear conversions
at 47kHz.  But it seems that the support under 4.1.3 is limited to only the
older 8 u-law.  Is there someway to access the data under the newer format?
Is the 16bit A/D-D/A supported under SunOS 4.1.3? Solaris 2.1?

   Thank you,
      Kevin

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Dr. Kevin T. Damour                              Lockheed Sanders Inc.
Principal Electrical Engineer                    PO Box 868, MER24-1583C
Signal Processing Center of Technology           Nashua, NH 03061-0868

  (usenet)      ...!uunet!rocket!damour            voice (603) 885-9122
  (internet)    <damour@rocket.sanders.com>        fax   (603) 885-0631
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: How do we boot our new SS10?
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:20:21 GMT

>  At some point in December (reports vary) Sun stopped shipping
>SS10/20's with 4.1.3 and started shipping them with Jumpstart.

Okay, I give up.   WHAT IS "Jumpstart", and why do you care what's on the
disk before you reinstall over it?

-- 

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From: dominic@natcorp.ox.ac.uk (Dominic Dunlop)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Using non-TCP/IP ethernet
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:04:20 GMT
Organization: British National Corpus, Oxford University, GB
Originator: dominic@onions.natcorp.ox.ac.uk

I lost the original post, but, in article
<1993Jan22.152802.1233@uoft02.utoledo.edu> jkp@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu
(Jens Petersohn) follows up:
> If you are refering to EtherTalk from Apple, you are out of luck since the
> interface does nothing by itself, what you need is a packet driver and a
> network stack to drive Ethertalk over the ethernet. Those are software modules
> generally bound to the kernel. I am not aware of such software for EtherTalk,
> but I know they exist for NetOS like DECnet.

Jens is mostly right, BUT

 a) You can also do protocol stacks in user space.  SunOS (Solaris
    too??) gives you access to the raw Ethernet packet driver through
    /dev/nit in order that you can do this sort of thing.

 b) An Ethertalk stack (and much else besides) exists for UNIX in the
    form of the CAP (Columbia AppleTalk Protocol) package, freely
    available from an archive site near you.
-- 
Dominic Dunlop
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: comore@arcetri.astro.it (Gianni Comoretto)
Subject: Seagate ST41650: problems with a SS
Organization: Osservatorio di Arcetri
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:22:33 GMT

I have a Seagate ST41650N disk (Wren8) connected to a SparcStation 2.
After a few days of normal operation, it failed, with the nessage:
Block 1835008 (1374/8/6) Fatal non-media error (hardware error).
Then almost 1000 blocks resulted defective. 

It was replaced by a new unit, that repeated the same message,
this time during format. Changing cables, sparcstation, SCSI
address does not work. 

It looks like an interface problem, also because 1835008 is
1C0000 in hex, but seems also not to be due to faulty equipment
(we changed everything).

The entry in format.dat is the standard one for the ST41650.
We have installed the patch to the OS  for  filesystems > 1GB,
but if you know of a "newer" patch, or one that has been tested
with this drive, it woukd be appreciated.

Did anyone else met this problem before? Any suggestions 
about something we did wrong?

Thank you very much in advance
				Gianni Comoretto
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: wwf@doe.carleton.ca (W. Walter Fergusson)
Subject: Request: Watchdog Reset infomation wanted
Organization: Carleton University, Electronics Department.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:18:59 GMT

My Sun 3/260 is suffering from watchdog reset problems.  A watchdog
reset occurs every 20-60 minutes.  I would apreciate help in learning
about watchdog resets on my machine and how to fix it.

First a few questions, and then the details of my investigation so
far.

1) What causes a watchdog reset on a Sun 3/260?  My understanding is
that it is a hardware detected inconsitency often associated with a
timout while polling something.  The only mention in the manuals is
associated with the ie0 interface.

2) Can my battery for my real time clock be running low and causing
the watchdog reset?  The machine is 5 years old.

3) People have suggested that it might be a heat related problem.  The
board does run hot, but the two fans at the top work and I do not
notice any thing blocking the air flow.  Also the 20-60 minute period
seems independent of how long the machine has been powered on.  How
hot can the chips get?


Details:

A few months ago I had watchdog reset problems every few days.  I had
no ethernet connection and did not do an "ifconfig ie0 down".  After I
had changed this, I had no problems with watchdog resets for 3 weeks.
My next watchdog reset was in 3 days.  Next in < 1 day.  Next in 2
hours.  Now I get them 20-60 minutes appart.

The watchdog reset seems to be independent of the hardware
configuration or the software running.  I get the watchdog reset with
the full system or the full system minus one board (with correct
jumper placement).  The watchdog reset occurs when running unix or
even at the prom monitor!

When 4-6 watchdog resets have occurred, the prom monitor is stuck.  It
does not accept anything from the keyboard.  The reset switch will
cause another watchdog reset, but the keyboard is still frozen.  I
must power the machine off to talk to the prom monitor.

It may be just my imagination, but the watchdog resets seem to be
farther apart when I run the folowing shell script from a shell prompt
in unix (multi-user or single):
	while true; do uptime ; done

My machine hardware is configured as follows:

Slot#	board
1	CPU - backplane jumpers verified
2	empty
3	CG2 - backplane jumpers verified
4	8 Meg - backplane jumpers verified
5	air flow restrictor
6	8 Meg -	resister terminated, backplane and front jumpers verified
7	VME SCSI - backplane jumpers verified
8	VME SMD - backplane jumpers verified
9	air flow restrictor
10	air flow restrictor
11	air flow restrictor
12	air flow restrictor

I would appreciate any information.  Please mail me.  I will summarize
to the net if requests warrent, otherwise I will mail people
individually about my experience.

Walter
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Winner of the hairy chested regexp award!
From: katz@elements.rpal.rockwell.com (Morry Katz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: SS10 Speakerbox sound quality
Date: 22 Jan 93 10:29:07
Organization: Rockwell International Palo Alto Lab
Reply-To: katz@rpal.rockwell.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: carbon.rpal.rockwell.com
In-reply-to: dpkemp@afterlife.ncsc.mil's message of 21 Jan 93 21:54:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.215432.2891@afterlife.ncsc.mil> dpkemp@afterlife.ncsc.mil (David P. Kemp) writes:
> 
> In article <1jki8cINNq1i@manuel.anu.edu.au> jaa101@gorton.anu.edu.au (James Ashton) writes:
>>
>> [...]  What's the point of doing CD quality sound with such a noisy
>>analogue section?  Do we have a dud or does everyone see the same
>>thing?  The specs for the audio don't provide any noise figures which
>>is a concern.  They do give THD (total harmonic distortion) as 5% from
>>the speaker and 0.5% from the line out.  I'm not audiophile enough to
>>have a feel for those figures but I think we get to complain to Sun
>>about the quality.  Any other experiences or comments appreciated...
> 
> You should definitely complain to Sun.  It isn't just a sample defect.
> 
> We currently have 6 speakerboxes, and they are all very noisy, even more
> so than the AMD codec in the SS-2.  Sun told us that "Rev 4" speakerboxes
> correct a problem with the power supply in the "Rev 3" units, but we
> haven't gotten our replacements yet.
> 
> -- 
>    Dave Kemp   dpkemp@afterlife.ncsc.mil 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Washington [D.C.] is a city of Southern efficiency and Northern charm"
>      -- John F. Kennedy
ACcording to the person at Sun with whom I spoke, it is not clear that
the Rev 4 speaker box really solves the problem.  They are currently
in the process of doing a serious engineering evaluation of the
situation.  My advice is top call Sun and have them add you to the
list of customers to be notified of the results of the aforementioned
evaluation.  It seems like a lot of trouble and expense (for Sun) to
start shipping a bunch of customers the Rev 4 speakerbox if it doesn't
completely solve the problem.  
--
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Morry Katz
Rockwell Science Center
administrator@rpal.rockwell.com (machine administration issues)
katz@rpal.rockwell.com (other)
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From: dank@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Daniel R. Kegel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Why are floppies in SS10 so darn slow?
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:30:15 GMT
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
NNTP-Posting-Host: bacchus.jpl.nasa.gov

How come the floppies in our workstations are so slow?
They seem about 10x slower than the same floppies on MS-DOS machines.
- Dan K.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: paulr@fulcrum.oz.au (Paul Rosham)
Subject: Re: Want Sun 2000 info
Organization: The Fulcrum Consulting Group
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:40:06 GMT

pas@jupiter.ic.cmc.ca (Peter Stokes) writes:

>Hi.  I'm looking for technical (read non-sales) info
>on the Sun 2000 machine.   I'm looking for a description
>of the architecture, including processor and memory 
>organization, the new Sun bus (whatever its called) and
>the like.    Info on the implementation of Unix for this
>architecture might also be of interest.   Does anyone 
>know where I can get this info?    Some papers from a 
>conference or similar would be ideal.    

What you want is the "SPARCcenter(TM) 2000 Architecture and Implementation"
white paper, of which I have a Draft Edition of 10 November 1992 in front of
me. It covers the XBus and XDBus implementation, SBus interface, memory
interface, as well as JTAG implementation (less detailed)  and other funky
stuff.

Unfortunately, it has no allocated part number, but a Sun SE might be able to
get you a copy if it has been released.

-PaulR.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: grose@camax.com (Larry Grose)
Subject: Type 5 keyboard and sunview
Organization: CAMAX Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:17:53 GMT

Does anyone know if keyboard events for the additional keys on the new Type 5
keyboards (eg, the arrow keys or PageUp and PageDown keys) can be accessed
from a Sunview application?  I have not been able to find any documentation
to that effect, and they are not referred to in the 4.1.3 version of
/usr/include/sundev/vuid_event.h.  We are in the process of porting to
Solaris 2.1, but would like to make use of the additional keys in our current
application.  If this has been addressed before, then just send E-mail.
Thanks.

-- 
-- Larry Grose / CAMAX Systems, Inc. / 612-854-5300 / grose@camax.com
From: tinkess@cambridge.mitchell.com (Randall Tinkess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: SunPC or Puzzle Systems?
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:12:46 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
NNTP-Posting-Host: mitchell.com
Summary: Which is the better choice?
Keywords: SunPC Puzzle Emulator


Hello PC emulator users!

I have to make a choice between the SunPC emulator product or a 
similar product which is made by Puzzle Systems. I don't
know which is the better choice. The Sun product is 486-25MHz
and Puzzle offers the 486 at both 25 and 30MHz.

I know that clock speed on the co-processor card is only one of many
factors to consider but I don't have any empirical data to evaluate.

Does anyone have a recommendation about these products? 

One of my main concerns is the switch-over to Solaris 2.1 and my
fear that a third-party product may be slow to advance the needed
drivers!

Any thoughts are, as always, greatly appreciated.

Randy T.


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