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From: ez006392@othello.ucdavis.edu (??? ??? )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Star Trek 5 videodisk
Date: 11 Jan 93 10:27:57 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.laptops
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

i am selling star trek 5 on videodisk for $18 (includes shipping)
please reply by E-mail

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Marvin CHen
tcchen@ucdavis.edu
From: ywlee@cs.uiuc.edu (Youngwhan Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Integral Systems, Inc?
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:13:31 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

I need to find this company. (Boy, I have tried this for a couple
of months now. I have looked various places including posting
it to comp.palmtop and comp.pen-based. This newsgroup is my last
hope.)

If you know anything about the company please let me know.
I understand the company is making 1.8 inch hard disk drives.
I'm interested in getting PCMCIA compatible 1.8 inch drives.

youngwhan.
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From: Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU (Conrad C. Nobili)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: IBM 700C query
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:30:12 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.laptops
Organization: Harvard University Office for Information Technology

In article <1993Jan6.043028.19167@netcom.com>, cys@netcom.com (Cy Shuster)
wrote:

> also I heard that Solaris won't run on MCA devices, but I haven't confirmed

This sort of thing has not been emphasized enough for those who may care
but not be aware of the issue.  There are vague reports that some people
have sort of gotten Linux running on MCA machines recently, but they are
still basically not supported.  Other UNIXes may have similar problems, I
don't know....

Conrad C. Nobili  N1LPM  Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU  Harvard University OIT
From: rstough@gmuvax.gmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Query on MicroTSP
Date: 5 Jan 93 14:49:13 -0500
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, VA.

Hello,

I am new to the newtwork news.
I am not sure whether I am posting this query to the proper newsgroups.

Can somebody tell me, source for a software package called
"MicroTSP" for PC/Laptop (MSDOS/WINDOWS). 
Thanks in advance.

Roger Stough  

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email :  rstough@gmuvax.gmu.edu 
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From: jeffreyj@maico.ksu.ksu.edu (Jeffrey John Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: Laptops that Run UNIX?
Date: 9 Jan 1993 05:07:51 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: maico.ksu.ksu.edu

     Regarding Unix on a pc.  Don't forget Linux and 386BSD.  The seem to be
good alternatives if you don't mind a little tinkering.  I am reinstalling 
Linux on my machine now with the SLS distribution.  Check out 
comp.os.linux .
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.linux
From: Iain.Lea@anl433.uucp
Subject: Unix on a TI Travelmate 4000
Followup-To: comp.sys.laptops
Organization: ANL A433, Siemens AG., Germany.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 BETA PL0]
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:51:30 GMT

I am planning on buying a TI 4000 486DX2/50 in the next few weeks and 
was wondering if anyone has managed to get Linux to run on it.

Comments?

Iain

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From: jpp@tornado (Joseph Piazza)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Floppy port pinout?
Date: 5 Jan 93 20:24:08 GMT
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Sys Integration & S/W Development
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


	Could anyone give me a pinout signal diagram of the DB-25 connector
	used on many laptops for an external floppy disk drive? I am
	looking in particular for the pinout of a GRiD GRiDlite laptop.

						Thanks,
						Joe, N2MSG

Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: grweiss@ernie.Princeton.EDU (Gregory Robert Weiss)
Subject: (bankrupt) Librex status report...
Summary: I called them and asked about future support.
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: Librex PC clone notebook
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 07:36:33 GMT

    Well, I had to call up Librex to ask them some questions about my machine
which I purchased last summer, so I took time to ask them what was up.
Yes, I bought my machine a month before they filed for bankruptcy. :-(
It's a great machine though (386/SXL,5MB,80MB,faxmodem), and I couldn't
get all those features as low a price anywhere else.  And I figured that
being owned by Nippon $teel, it wasn't a fly-by-night operation...
I've had no problems with mine;  I've enjoyed my machine.  Now I just
need to get rid of another 20 Meg so I can install LINUX on it. :-)

Anyway, about the phone calls:

     Librex's customer information number (800)-248-4880 merely gave me 
another number 1-800-634-6664, which turned out to be the phone number of
a company named OmniData.  OmniData is now the main supplier all Librex 
accessories (battery packs, RAM, internal fax/modem, etc...)

     Librex's current tech support line, which I had to call, is 
(714)-580-1913.  I spent under thirty seconds on hold, and the person there 
answered  all my questions in a prompt, clear manner.  I was pretty impressed.

     I asked the guy doing tech support what was going to happen to support 
after Librex officially goes under.  He said that Nippon Steel was guarantee-
ing tech support for at least three years.  (i.e. The warranty is one year,
but they will have a tech support and repair facility for at least three more 
years.)  Nippon Steel is presently in the process of getting and evaluating
bids for a third party to do the support, and it currently looks like
the tech support will go through OmniData, starting some time in the spring.

Anyway, thought some of you fellow Librex owners would like to know what
was up.  Feel free to correct any mis-statements or pass along some more
news about Librex!

  --Greg
From: publications@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (And now the envelope please....)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Where are Librex upgrades?
Date: 7 Jan 93 12:34:58 EST

Does anyone know where I can find upgrades for the Librex 386? I have 4MB now
and would like to upgrade to 12MB to run Interleaf. If Librex is pulling out of
the US market does this mean I'm stuck at 4MB? If so, be aware of this
limitation if you are considering buying the Damark Librex laptop. 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: kalin@math.psu.edu ( kalin )
Subject: Re: T1000SE for sale w/ 3MB and internal 2400MNP5
Organization: Math Dept
	<1iq3dsINN5b6@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> <C0nr5I.L7o@news2.cis.umn.edu>
	<BETSYS.93Jan11163316@ra.cs.umb.edu> <93012.200114PXF3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:53:38 GMT

OK,OK, men vad mennar Udfaerd. Jag can Svenska men det ha:r ain't.
kalin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: nagano@nosc.mil (Michael Y. Nagano)
Subject: Memory upgrade for BSR 386nb laptop.
Keywords: memory, laptop, bsr
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:29:57 GMT

Anyone know of places to upgrade the BSR 386nb laptop sold by DAK from
the 2mb to 5mb that may be cheaper than the $329 offered by DAK.

Thanks for the help.

Responses by e-mail would probably be the best way to handle this.
If there is a lot of interest in the e-mail, I will post a summary of
the sources.

Mike Nagano
From: amw116@mesrx.com (amy m wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Sold-state polymer batteries by Valence Tech.
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:04:06 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Measurex, Corporation    "The Results Company"


I'm currently in the market for a notebook or a subnotebook.
In the San Jose Mercury News, Dec. 10,1992, an article mentions
a new kind of rechargeable battery.  It is called a solid-state
polymer battery.  The article states, "Valence's batteries are 
lighter and have better recharging characterisitics than the
nickel-cadium, or NiCad, battery packs now popular for
portable elctronic devices, analysts said." It later continues 
to say that "the profit potential is huge: The new battery costs
about one-tenth as much to make as a comparable NiCad battery but
sells for 50 percent more."  The article also mentions that Motorola Inc. 
just signed $100 million deal with Valence to get the new batteries.

Now if Motorola is willing to fork over that much money, the technololgy
must be sound.  Now my question is, how come I haven't seen any
notebooks with this new battery?  Are any computer companies planning
to run their systems off these batteries?  Since my next notebook
needs to be powerful, light, and most importantly, have a long battery 
life, I hope somebody has some information that could help.



Thanks.

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Measurex Corporation
Cupertino, CA
From: HANS@PINE.CIRCA.UFL.EDU (VAN_OOSTROM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Anybody bought an AST laptop?
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:10:11 GMT
Organization: UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24


I am looking into buying a portable pc.  I got some info about a portable 
from AST.  

It looks very nice.  Among others it has a docking station, long 
battery life, integrated but removable trackball, it is fully upgradable.
It comes in different flavors.  You can get is as a 386sl /25Mhz or a 
486sl /25 Mz.  It is also available with a color screen.

The models are as follows: POWER EXEC 3/25sl
                           POWER EXEC 4/25sl
                           POWER EXEC ?/25sl COLOR PLUS

I would apreciate any comments that already bought one of these machines.
Also any info about the reputation of this company, any experiances dealing
with them.

Thanks a lot.

Please Email me because our news feed is kinda flacky lately.

hans@anest4.anest.ufl.edu (preferred) or
hans@pine.circa.ufl.edu




Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: jpgraham@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John P Graham)
Subject: Thanks ..
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 21:08:59 GMT


Many thanks to those who replied to queries wrt my new tandy 486
laptop .... John.
From: nelson@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Matt Nelson)
Subject: Expansion chasis for TI Travelmate 3000
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:14:27 GMT


Hello, all.

I have been thinking lately that an expansion chasis for my Travelmate
3000 WinSX would be a neat-o thing to have.  I suspect that they are
outrageously expensive, but have yet to see any mention of this thing
in any store's ads/product listings.

So, how much are these things?  Is it worth seeking one out?

In the event that they are 'too much', would it be possible to hack one
together?  What are the pinouts on the expansion port?  Anybody ever
try this?

just curious,

Matt Nelson (nelson@master.ps.uci.edu)
From: fhl@milton.u.washington.edu (Dean Pentcheff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Active matrix monochrome screens?
Date: 13 Jan 93 02:10:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1ivtmeINNqj1
Reply-To: dean2@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu (Dean Pentcheff)
Followup-To: comp.sys.laptops
Organization: Department of Biology, University of South Carolina, Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: milton.u.washington.edu

OK, what's the scoop?  I hear rumor that the Apple Powerbooks have
active matrix monochrome screens.  Is this true?  What does it mean?
Should I be looking for active matrix monochrome screens on PC
laptops?  Does it yield higher image quality or more viewing ease?

Thanks for helping the ignorant.

-Dean
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Department of Biology, University of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29205
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: petekunz@iiic.ethz.ch (Peter John Kunz)
Subject: Re: Next laptop specs
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:26:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.013927.17744@ilium.troy.msen.com> wayne@ilium.troy.msen.com (Michael R. Wayne) writes:
>
>	120+ MB SCSI disk drive, I should be able to upgrade it in a year 
>	    or two (by opening the case, not "removable").
>	21MB Floptical disk drive.  Since these read 1.44 as well, I don't
>	    understand why everyone isn't supporting them.
>	SCSI out on the back.

is there any laptop that offers at least oen of the above?

cu
-pete


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: rwoodsaj@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: need help with "setup" of older Sharp laptop serial port
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 04:23:19 GMT

In article <C0HvyG.4Fx@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v068ky46@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (John J. Atkins) writes:
> I've got an older Sharp laptop, the type with just two floppies and
> no HD, only CGA graphics, etc. I can't get my serial port to work-
> The built-in setup menu lists a COM1 and COM2 as "not present", and
> it won't let me select those segments of the menu for changing. Every-
> thing else works fine in the setup menu, and my Procomm + software
> and modem work fine on other computers. Anyone have experience with these
> machines? 
> 	My modem's "send data" light stays illuminated when the computer
> is on, and the "receive data" light flickers when either floppy is in 
> operation. The send data light only goes off of the machine is turned
> off or the modem cable disconnected.
> 	I have no manual for this computer, is there something simple
> I'm overlooking? I've spent hours trying everything I could think of.
> My primary use for it was to be as a terminal, so I'd really like to 
> ge that serial port to work....
> 
> 			    Thanks for your thoughts,
> 			
> 						John
What would help is knowing what the actual model number of you computer.
Several sharps meet this description - but my guess is it is the PC4500
(PC4502 twin floppy version that you are talking about.)

If it is the 4502 then I might be able to help.
The electronics for the serial port on the 4502 are on a separate board
mounted just above the main mother board.  The board is removable
so that it could be replaced with an internal  modem board (I think).
If this board came away from its plug onto the board then the serial
port would presumable malfunction.  Checking whether the board is seated
properly is a start.

The problem you describe regarding the send and receive lights on your modem
going on and off in sync with your floppy lights sounds as though
you have your modem plugged into the wrong socket.  The 4502 has three DB25s
on the side of the left hand side of  the computer.  The rear bottom one
is the parallel port and the front bottom is a external floppy drive
connector (it sounds as though you have the modem plugged into this socket).
The top connector (a male) is the serial port.

Hope this helps.

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From: das@emmapeel.ca.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Subject: Micro Computer Systems?
Organization: Yet Another Graphics Project, Bellevue, WA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:08:57 GMT

Micro Computer Systems in New York city has quoted me the best price I've
found yet on my dream machine (AST Power Exec notebook).  Has anyone out
there ever mail-ordered anything from these folks?  Any comments about them
would be welcome.

Thanks,
------
Debbie Schwartz // das@voodoo.ca.boeing.com  // ....uw-beaver!bcsaic!voodoo!das
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: life@kappa.rice.edu (Larry Ciscon)
Subject: FOR SALE: CITIZEN PN48 portable printer
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:45:12 GMT



For Sale: CITIZEN PN48 portable printer
          (Approx. 6 mo. old) -barely used

Includes: Original Box
          All cables, software & accessories
          Update disk with new drivers

PLUS:     13 double-strike ribbons AND
          10 single-strike ribbons

Total value: approx. $300 for printer
             $75 for the ribbons

Asking: $200


Please e-mail me (Larry Ciscon) at the following
address for more information.

E-mail: life@kappa.rice.edu
Phone:  (713) 797-9546
From: andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: There goes Outbound
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:20:20 GMT
Reply-To: andrew@frip.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix Color Printers, Wilsonville, Oregon


	"I am going to wait until I have the money for a Duo or
	Outbound ..."

The Outbounds may become orphans.  Outbound Systems is liquidating;
apparently the PowerBooks blew away the company.  See page 2 of the
21 Dec 92 "Electronic Engineering Times" for a three-paragraph story.

  -=- Andrew Klossner  (andrew@frip.wv.tek.com)
                       (uunet!tektronix!frip.WV.TEK!andrew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: mweiss@mis.mi04.zds.com (Mitchell Weiss)
Subject: Re: how portable can we get?
Keywords: modem, cordless
Organization: Zenith Data Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:25:18 GMT

In article <C0D4wr.n5B@cs.psu.edu> kalin@math.psu.edu ( kalin ) writes:
>Here's what I think is possible. 
>Not so long ago I saw somewhere (any pointers welcome_
>a stupid device which is actually two boxes. One is plugged
>in the phone wall outlet and the other has the batteries and
>you drag it around in the house or the yard and plug a general 
>household phone in it. Now your phone is cordless - kind of.
>
>I have a strong feeling that this can be done to laptops with
>internal modems - so no more 30 ft of phone wires in the house, 
>and a wife complaining about a tipped floor lamp.....
>
>Any idea who makes those phone "RABBITS" ?
>

I know, for example, that Proxima was showing a wireless Ethernet
lan PCMCIA adapter at COMDEX recently.  You would need a laptop
with a PCMCIA adapter, and a desktop with a standard Ethernet
adapter.  Then, you could use software such as Windows for Workgroups,
LANTASTIC, or some other peer-to-peer network to give you this 
functionality. Then put a modem in the desktop near the phone line.
 

The Proxima lan is not yet for sale.  It was in Beta.


___________________________________________
Mitchell Weiss              mweiss@zds.com
I speak for me.  Only Me, Not Them
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: nickerso@nimios.eng.mcmaster.ca (Kent Nickerson)
Subject: T1000 ROM Dump
Organization: Communications Research Laboratory, McMaster University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:36:51 GMT


How would I use DEBUG or BASIC to give me a dump of the contents of the
ROM in a T1000?  I am interested in burning a new PROM with some favourite
utilities.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: jbrock@csfb1.fir.fbc.com (John Brock)
Subject: UNIX on a ThinkPad 700C?
Reply-To: uunet!csfb1!jbrock
Organization: First Boston Corporation
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:20:43 GMT

Had anyone done this yet?

The removable hard disk makes this very attractive; one disk for
DOS/WINDOWS or OS/2 (or both maybe), and another for UNIX.  But the MCA
architecture is a problem -- a lot of PC UNIXs don't support it.  Also
some people have referred to the hard disk as using some sort of IBM
proprietary IDE controller, so maybe this is a problem too.  I'm no PC
guru, so it would be reassuring to know that somebody else has actually
made it work.  (I'd be happiest if it worked with a big name
shrink-wrapped UNIX and no hacking)!

-- 
John Brock
uunet!csfb1!jbrock
jbrock@csfb1.fir.fbc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: wjs@cs.sunysb.edu (Bill Sakoda)
Subject: sparc laptops
Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:41:37 GMT

Can someone suggest good sparc-compatible laptops?
We looked at the Tadpole unit but found the ergonomics
somewhat primitive.
Thanks
Bill Sakoda    wjs@cs.sunysb.edu
From: jba@ai.mit.edu (Jonathan Amsterdam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: IBM 700C query
Date: 6 Jan 93 06:29:01 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: kix.ai.mit.edu

I'm just itching to buy an IBM 700C Thinkpad--they are *so* sexy--but I
want to know if now's the time.  Is IBM planning any major upgrades soon?
Does anyone know of any other laptop that comes close to it in sexiness
(e.g. color screen, integrated cursor-movement device, nice keyboard, 486)?

	Jonathan Amsterdam
From: baltman@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Brian Altman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: Next laptop specs
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:53:09 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

petekunz@iiic.ethz.ch (Peter John Kunz) writes:In article
<1993Jan12.013927.17744@ilium.troy.msen.com> wayne@ilium.troy.msen.co
m (Michael R. Wayne) writes:
>
>       120+ MB SCSI disk drive, I should be able to upgrade it in a year
>           or two (by opening the case, not "removable").
>       21MB Floptical disk drive.  Since these read 1.44 as well, I don't
>           understand why everyone isn't supporting them.
>       SCSI out on the back.
>>>is there any laptop that offers at least oen of the above?
>>>
>>>cu
>>>-pete

Yeah, the Macintosh Powerbooks and Duos.

-Brian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: muns@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ziad Munson)
Subject: ** WANTED ** laptop computer
Reply-To: muns@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 05:11:14 GMT

**** WANTED ****

laptop computer of the cheap variety

minimum requirements:
   everything on the system works like it is supposed to
   10MB hard drive or more
   640K of RAM or more
   some kind of graphics capability 

extras i would like but don't require:
   internal modem
   backlit screen
   decent clock speed

if you are willing to part with a machine with these qualifications or
better at a reasonable price, you would make me a happy person.  i am looking   for a cheap second system to use mainly for word processing in libraries.       i need to stay under $500.  please email me (muns@midway.uchicago.edu) or call  me (312-363-3923) if you have something


many thanks,

ziad munson
From: tfoley@camaro.uucp (Tim Foley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: Parallel Port Ethernet throughput??
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:20:19 GMT
Organization: camaro

In article <1993Jan6.064846.2871@cs.uoregon.edu> akm@atlantix.cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal) writes:
>
>Could folks who have had experience with ethernet adaptors on the
>parallel ports tell us what kind of throughput we could expect?
>

   On a side note, has anyone pulled one of these adapters apart and seen if 
they are buildable as a project?  Shelling out $800 for an ethernet adapter 
is a bit nuts, and I would rather play around with building one anyways.
 
   Do these things need drivers (software) ?


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