From: tdo@bnr.ca (Tu Do)
Subject: Re: [POET] Bu't Tre
Reply-To: tdo@bnr.ca (Tu Do)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:25:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.180551.17430@news.media.mit.edu>, CNguyen.osbu_north@xerox.com writes: 
|> 
|> Let's not talk about o^ng Ho^`'s other works. Let's talk about his poetry. I
|> would like to hear the argument which backed up the statement that "o^ng Ho^`'s
|> poetry is very good". Ba.n TDo no'i "tho+ o^ng Ho^` ra^'t hay"? Hay ??? Hay o*?
|> cho^~ na\o, hay ra la\m sao ??? Xin chi? da^~n.
|> 
|> Xin ca'm o*n,
|> 
|> /cuong


Theo nhu+ posting cu?a to^i (the whole posting not just the
quote in your posting - included below), mo.i ngu+o+`i dde^`u 
thu+`a hie^?u ra(`ng khi to^i no'i tho+ o^ng Ho^` hay co' nghi~a la`
hay ve^` ky~ thua^.t, ve^` va^`n ddie^.u va` ve^` ca'ch du`ng chu+~, chu+'
tuye^.t ddo^'i kho^ng pha?i la` ve^` no^.i dung.  Cha('c kho^ng ca^`n
gia?i thi'ch nhie^`u ve^` va^'n dde^` na`y nu+~a.

Ve^` ca^u ho?i cu?a ba.n, to^i kho^ng pha?i la` thi nha^n cu~ng 
cha(?ng pha?i la` va(n nha^n dde^? ma` co' the^? tra? lo+`i 
1 ca'ch hoa`n my~, 1 ca^u ho?i ma` theo to^i co`n kho' 
ho+n 1 dde^` ta`i lua^.n va(n the^? chu+'ng minh o+? ca^'p ba^.c dda.i 
ho.c.  Ho+n nu+~a, thi va(n cu~ng nhu+ a^m nha.c la` 1 ca'i gi` 
ddo' ra^'t ca' nha^n, mo^~i ngu+o+`i co' the^? co' 1 so+? thi'ch hoa(.c 
1 ca'i nhi`n kha'c nhau.  Khi nghe xong 1 chuye^.n cu+o+`i, 
co' 1 so^' ngu+o+`i cu+o+`i, nhu+ng la.i co' 1 so^' kha'c tha^'y cha(?ng 
co' gi` dda'ng cu+o+`i thi` du` mi`nh co' ddi no'i cho ho. nghe 
ta.i sao nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i kia cu+o+`i cu~ng chu+a cha('c la`m cho 
ho. cu+o+`i ddu+o+.c.  Dda.i kha'i la` nhu va^.y.

To^i nha('c to+'i o^ng Ho^` trong posting ve^` Bu't Tre cha(?ng
qua la` vi` 2 chu+~ "Ca'ch Ma`ng", va` la` vi` tha^'y o^ng Ho^` tuy
ba('t chu+o+'c Bu't Tre nhu+ng dda~ dda.t dde^'n tri`nh ddo^. cu?a Bu't
Tre.  Kha'ch quan ma` no'i, ne^'u chi? xe't ve^` ma(.t ky~ thua^.t,
ma^'y ngu+o+`i nghi~ ra(`ng tho+ To^' Hu+~u, tho+ Xua^n Die^.u la` do+?? 
ma^'y ngu+o+`i nghi~ ra(`ng nha.c Tri.nh Co^ng So+n la` kho^ng hay?
Song chi? tie^'c ra(`ng nhu+~ng thi ta`i va` nha.c ta`i na`y kho^ng phu.c 
vu. dda^'t nu+o+'c qua thi va(n, a^m nha.c, kho^ng ddo'ng go'p 
va`o ne^`n va(n ho.c va` nghe^. thua^.t da^n to^.c, ma` la.i ddi uo^'n 
cong ngo`i bu't cu?a mi`nh la`m tay sai cho 1 che^' ddo^. ddo^.c ta`i
phi da^n to^.c, sa?n xua^'t ra nhu+~ng ta'c pha^?m co' no^.i dung tuye^n 
truye^`n lo^' bi.ch la`m tro` cu+o+`i cho the^' nha^n.  Tho+ o^ng Ho^` co'
le~ cu~ng na(`m trong dda.i loa.i na`y, co' ky~ thua^.t nhu+ng ve^` no^.i 
dung thi` tha^.t ghe^ go+'m, kho^ng nhu+~ng dde^? cho thie^n ha. che^ cu+o+`i, 
ma` ddo^i khi co`n no'i le^n ba?n cha^'t tha^.t su+. cu?a con ngu+o+`i
CS.  Xin la^'y 1 thi' du. ddie^?n hi`nh 1 ba`i tho+ Ddu+o+`ng lua^.t 
"khi su+ die^.t to^?" ma` o^ng Ho^` dda~ la`m khi vie^'ng dde^`n Ddu+'c 
Tha'nh Tra^`n dda~ ddu+o+.c ne^u le^n tre^n net na`y: 

"Vo^'n tay anh hu`ng vo^'n gio`ng ha`o kie^.t
to^i ba'c cu`ng chung no+. kie^'m cung
Ba'c gie^'t qua^n Nguye^n thanh kie^'m ba.c
to^i tha('ng gia(.c Pha'p ngo.n co+` ho^`ng
Ba'c ddu+a mo^.t nu+o+'c qua vo`ng no^ le^.
to^i da^~n na(m cha^u dde^'n dda.i ddo^`ng
Ba'c co' linh thie^ng cu+o+`i mo^.t tie^'ng
mu+`ng to^i Ca'ch Ma.ng sa('p tha`nh co^ng"

Xin lu+u y' ra(`ng khi to^i no'i tho+ o^ng Ho^`, tho+ Bu't
Tre la` to^i muo^'n no'i dde^'n nhu+~ng ba`i tho+ dda~ ddu+o+.c 
pho^? bie^'n hoa(.c lu+u truye^`n du+o+'i te^n o^ng Ho^` hay Bu't
Tre.  Con tha^.t su+. nhu+~ng ba`i tho+ a^'y co' pha?i cu?a
o^ng Ho^` hay cu?a Bu't Tre hay kho^ng la.i la` chuye^.n kha'c,
ngoa`i khuo^n kho^? cu?a su+. tha?o lua^.n o+? dda^y.

Tu' - Ott. Can.
 

>>From: tdo@bnr.ca (Tu Do)
>>Subject: Re: Bu't Tre
>>
>>
>>
>>...

>>"Chu' ve^` tro^ng vie^.n ba?o ta`ng
>> Cu~ng la` co^ng vie^.c Ca'ch MA`NG giao cho"  (*)
>>
>>...

>>(*) Ca'ch Ma.ng la` 2 tie^'ng thie^ng lie^ng ma` o^ng Ho^` dda~ 
>>"du`ng" la`m to^n chi? trong  mo.i cuo^.c me^.nh danh dda^'u tranh 
>>ma` o^ng la~nh dda.o (dda^'u tranh giai ca^'p, cho^'ng thu+.c
>>da^n, cho^'ng phong kie^'n, cho^'ng dde^' quo^'c ..vv..), o^ng
>>dda~ vie^'t ca? 1 quye^?n sa'ch la^'y te^n "Con ddu+o+`ng Ka'ch
>>Me^.nh" ma` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ke^' nghie^.p o^ng xem la` kinh su+?
>>ve^` ly' thuye^'t va` u+'ng du.ng cu?a Co^.ng Sa?n chu? nghi~a ta.i 
>>VN, va^.y ma` o^ng la.i ddem ra ddu`a gio+~n vo+'i ddo^`ng chi' 
>>cu?a mi`nh.  Ddie^`u na`y chu+'ng to?: 1) o^ng ra^'t tha^n vo+'i
>>Bu't Tre, tha^n ho+n "ti`nh ddo^`ng chi'" bi`nh thu+o+`ng; hay la`
>>2) Hai chu+~ "Ca'ch Ma.ng" trong o^ng cu~ng cha(?ng pha?i la` cao
>>qui' gi` la('m nhu+ o^ng thu+o+`ng truye^`n tu.ng.
>>Du` sao ddi nu+~a ta cu~ng pha?i co^ng nha^.n ra(`ng tho+ o^ng Ho^`
>>ra^'t hay, co`n tho+ o^ng muo^'n no'i ddie^`u gi`, hay tho+ o^ng pha?n 
>>a?nh ddie^`u gi` la.i la` chuye^.n kha'c.

>>Tu' - Ott. Can.


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