HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Subject: Re: mail to news gateway? 
Distribution: world
Organization: Rundart Limited
Reply-To: gt@rundart.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 02:17:37 +0000

>In article <1993Jan4.150355.23576@news.eng.convex.com> tchrist@convex.com  
>(Tom Christiansen) writes:
>> Is there a well-known internet address out there where someone without
>> news on their system can mail a message to and have it get posted to the
>> right group?  I'm thinking of something like mailing to misc-test at  
>some
>> internet host and this turning into a posting to the misc.test  
>newsgroup.

Two ways I know of:

Either

1) Send mail to "<newsgroup>@news.demon.co.uk".  E.g. 
"misc.test@news.demon.co.uk".  This is good for single newsgroup postings.

or

2) Send mail to "mail2news@news.demon.co.uk".  The mail message should
contain a valid "Newsgroups:" line as per RFC 1036.  This method is more
convenient for crosspostings.  Only one message need be sent however
many newsgroups are specified.

Giles.
-- 
Giles Todd                      gt@rundart.demon.co.uk (Internet)
Rundart Ltd                     Demon Internet Services
Voice: +44 925 33472            PGP 2.0 public key available.
Xref: sparky news.misc:2121 news.answers:5104
From: spaf@cs.purdue.edu (Gene Spafford)
Newsgroups: news.misc,news.answers
Subject: Changes to Answers to Frequently Asked Questions about Usenet
Supersedes: <spaf-c_questions_719471757@cs.purdue.edu>
Followup-To: news.misc
Date: 11 Jan 1993 11:32:05 -0500
Organization: Dept. of Computer Sciences, Purdue Univ.
Expires: 13 Mar 93 04:32:04 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: ector.cs.purdue.edu

Archive-name: usenet-faq/diff1
Last-change: 10 Jan 1993 by spaf@cs.purdue.edu (Gene Spafford)


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  Original-author: jerry@eagle.UUCP (Jerry Schwarz)
! Last-change: 18 Oct 1992 by mvac23!thomas@udel.edu (Thomas Lapp)
  
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! Last-change: 10 Jan 1993 by spaf@cs.purdue.edu (Gene Spafford)
  
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       Zionism discussions should be kept to talk.politics.mideast and
!      not in soc.culture.jewish; likewise, discussions of Jesus or of
!      religions other than Judaism should go to newsgroups for the
!      appropriate religion or to talk.religion.misc or alt.messianic.
!      Any attempts to proselytize any religious view belongs in
!      talk.religion.misc, if it belongs on the net at all.
!      Discussions on the merits of Affirmative Action and racial quotas
!      belong in talk.politics or alt.discrimination, not in
!      soc.culture.african.american.  Discussions about evolution vs.
!      creationism should be confined to the talk.origins group.
  
--- 249,260 ----
       Zionism discussions should be kept to talk.politics.mideast and
!      not in soc.culture.jewish; likewise, evangelical and
!      proseletyzing discussions of Jesus or of religions other than
!      Judaism should go to newsgroups for the appropriate religion or
!      to talk.religion.misc or alt.messianic.  Any attempts to
!      proselytize any religious view belongs in talk.religion.misc, if
!      it belongs on the net at all.  Discussions on the merits of
!      Affirmative Action and racial quotas belong in talk.politics or
!      alt.discrimination, not in soc.culture.african.american.
!      Discussions about evolution vs.  creationism should be confined
!      to the talk.origins group.
  
-- 
Gene Spafford
Software Engineering Research Center & Dept. of Computer Sciences
Purdue University, W. Lafayette IN 47907-1398
Internet:  spaf@cs.purdue.edu	phone:  (317) 494-7825
Newsgroups: news.misc
From: jstine@logiconultra.com (Jim Stine)
Subject: Re: mail to news gateway?
Organization: Logicon_Ultrasystems
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:19:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.150355.23576@news.eng.convex.com> tchrist@convex.com  
(Tom Christiansen) writes:
> Is there a well-known internet address out there where someone without
> news on their system can mail a message to and have it get posted to the
> right group?  I'm thinking of something like mailing to misc-test at  
some
> internet host and this turning into a posting to the misc.test  
newsgroup.
> I've heard such gateways exists, but have no address for them.  Please
> send me mail if you know of any.
> 
> thanks,

Me too...

Jim Stine
jstine@logiconultra.com

no disclaimers...
Xref: sparky news.misc:2117 news.answers:5100
From: tchrist@convex.com (Tom Christiansen)
Subject: mail to news gateway?
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:03:55 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Followup-To: poster
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

Is there a well-known internet address out there where someone without
news on their system can mail a message to and have it get posted to the
right group?  I'm thinking of something like mailing to misc-test at some
internet host and this turning into a posting to the misc.test newsgroup.
I've heard such gateways exists, but have no address for them.  Please
send me mail if you know of any.

thanks,

--tom
-- 
    Tom Christiansen      tchrist@convex.com      convex!tchrist

 "My philosophy of life is that the meek shall inherit
  nothing but debasement, frustration, and ignoble deaths..." - Harlan Ellison
Newsgroups: news.misc
From: newsstats@uunet.UU.NET
Newsgroups: news.lists
Subject: Top 25 News Groups for the last 2 weeks
Date: 8 Jan 1993 23:32:41 -0500
Organization: UUNET Communications
NNTP-Posting-Host: batch.uu.net

         No. of        $ Cost  % of  Cumulative
Rank  Kbytes Articles per Site Total  % of Total  Group (Articles/contributor)
   1 40869.0     914    107.85 10.1%    10.1%     alt.binaries.pictures.erotica (9.2)
   2 17860.6     386     47.13  4.4%    14.5%     alt.binaries.pictures.misc (3.6)
   3 14573.8    4488     38.46  3.6%    18.1%     bionet.molbio.genbank.updates (1.0)
   4  7722.3     297     20.38  1.9%    20.0%     news.answers (1.0)
   5  5561.1     277     14.68  1.4%    21.3%     comp.mail.maps (1.0)
   6  4878.3     117     12.87  1.2%    22.5%     alt.sex.pictures (4.9)
   7  4789.2     107     12.64  1.2%    23.7%     comp.binaries.os2 (1.0)
   8  4021.4    1348     10.61  1.0%    24.7%     talk.politics.misc (3.3)
   9  3641.0     156      9.61  0.9%    25.6%     relcom.sources (2.2)
  10  3634.5    3152      9.59  0.9%    26.5%     ncar.weather (3152.0)
  11  3173.3    1598      8.37  0.8%    27.3%     talk.abortion (8.8)
  12  2916.3      80      7.70  0.7%    28.0%     alt.binaries.pictures (3.2)
  13  2864.1    1214      7.56  0.7%    28.7%     alt.fan.rush-limbaugh (4.6)
  14  2690.5     920      7.10  0.7%    29.4%     rec.radio.amateur.misc (2.4)
  15  2457.4    1351      6.48  0.6%    30.0%     soc.culture.indian (2.9)
  16  2429.2    1034      6.41  0.6%    30.6%     alt.rush-limbaugh (4.7)
  17  2335.0      68      6.16  0.6%    31.1%     alt.sources (2.3)
  18  2300.1     443      6.07  0.6%    31.7%     alt.conspiracy (2.1)
  19  2268.1     102      5.99  0.6%    32.3%     alt.binaries.sounds.misc (2.4)
  20  2242.2      45      5.92  0.6%    32.8%     comp.binaries.mac (1.0)
  21  2240.6    1717      5.91  0.6%    33.4%     soc.motss (4.9)
  22  2239.9     953      5.91  0.6%    33.9%     talk.religion.misc (3.8)
  23  2219.3    1072      5.86  0.5%    34.5%     alt.atheism (3.9)
  24  2120.5    1560      5.60  0.5%    35.0%     rec.sport.football.pro (3.4)
  25  2016.4     944      5.32  0.5%    35.5%     talk.politics.mideast (6.7)

$ Cost is the cost of sending it over a Trailblazer to UUNET, using the 
800 number and Night rates. (1000 characters per second and $9.50 per hour)
I.e .264 cents per kilobyte
From: Christophe.Wolfhugel@grasp.insa-lyon.fr (Christophe Wolfhugel)
Newsgroups: news.lists
Subject: Usenet site size statistics -- December 1992
Followup-To: news.admin.misc
Date: 6 Jan 1993 13:44:30 +0100
Organization: INSA Informatique (Grasp), Lyon, France
NNTP-Posting-Host: grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr
Summary: statistical study of usenet sites
Keywords: site, statistics, size, arbitron

Following statistics have been done using Brian Reid's list of
sites participating to the monthly arbitron statistics survey.

Number of sites: 730

  Range       #      %       T#     T%
----------------------------------------
0000-0000:    17    2.33      17    2.33
0001-0001:    12    1.64      29    3.97
0002-0003:    27    3.70      56    7.67
0004-0007:    52    7.12     108   14.79
0008-0015:    83   11.37     191   26.16
0016-0031:    89   12.19     280   38.36
0032-0063:   119   16.30     399   54.66
0064-0127:    99   13.56     498   68.22
0128-0255:    81   11.10     579   79.32
0256-0511:    66    9.04     645   88.36
0512-1023:    38    5.21     683   93.56
1024-2047:    21    2.88     704   96.44
2048-4095:    20    2.74     724   99.18
4096- ++ :     6    0.82     730  100.00

#  =   number of sites
%  =   percentage / total
T# =   cumulative number of sites
T% =   cumulative percentage

Mean site size:     299
Standard deviation: 919

Logarithmic mean: 4.0
Log. Std. Dev:    1.9
Geometric mean:  53.2  (approximates the hump of the curve)
Sigma (left):     8.0
Sigma (right):  354.0

Median:            51  (there as many sites with less users than with more)

Most encountered number of users:

#Users    Sites
    0       17
    5       16
    2       16
    9       14
    4       13
    6       12
    1       12
   18       12
   11       12
    7       11
    3       11
   15       10
   20       10
    8       10
   13       10

Remember that sites reporting 0 users have probably a broken script for
counting users, or really have 0 non administrative users. You can also note
that this is also the most encountered value :).

-- 
Christophe Wolfhugel    |    Email: Christophe.Wolfhugel@grasp.insa-lyon.fr
Xref: sparky news.lists:602 news.groups:25348 news.announce.newusers:267 news.announce.newgroups:1505 news.answers:5141
From: spaf@cs.purdue.edu (Gene Spafford)
Newsgroups: news.lists,news.admin.misc,news.answers
Subject: Changes to How to Construct the Mailpaths File
Supersedes: <spaf-c_mailpaths_726769973@cs.purdue.edu>
Followup-To: news.misc
Date: 11 Jan 1993 11:55:48 -0500
Organization: Dept. of Computer Sciences, Purdue Univ.
Expires: 13 Mar 93 04:55:47 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: ector.cs.purdue.edu

Archive-name: mailpaths/diff1
Last-change: 10 Jan 1993 by spaf@cs.purdue.edu (Gene Spafford)


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*** 1,3 ****
  Newsgroups: news.lists,news.admin.misc,news.answers
! Followup-to: news.admin
  
--- 1,3 ----
  Newsgroups: news.lists,news.admin.misc,news.answers
! Followup-to: news.admin.misc
  
-- 
Gene Spafford
Software Engineering Research Center & Dept. of Computer Sciences
Purdue University, W. Lafayette IN 47907-1398
Internet:  spaf@cs.purdue.edu	phone:  (317) 494-7825
Xref: sparky news.lists:557 news.announce.newusers:212 news.answers:4921
From: Albert Crosby <acrosby@uafhp.uark.edu>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.sys.novell,comp.os.os2.networking,comp.protocols.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: RFD: comp.sys.lanman
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 9 Jan 1993 13:32:08 -0500
Organization: uark.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

Request For Discussion for comp.sys.lanman

PROPOSAL:

         Create an UNMODERATED Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.lanman


CHARTER:

         A group for the discussion of Microsoft Lan Manager networking and
related products including IBM Lan Server, 3Com 3+Open, Syntax, Pathworkds,
and other OEM products.  This forum is primarily for discussing installation,
maintenance, and administration of Microsoft Lan Manager based networks and
workstations under various operating systems, including DOS, Macintosh, UNIX,
OS/2, Windows NT, and Windws for Workgroups.

RATIONALE:

         Microsoft Lan Manager and numerous OEM variants are widely used in
the business and academic environment.  There already exists a mailing list
(LANMAN-L) devoted to Microsoft Lan Manager, and various newsgroups that
occasionally see Lan Manager related traffic, including comp.dcom.lan.misc,
comp.os.os2.networking, comp.sys.novell, comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32,
comp.protocols.* and several others.  Creating a single Usenet newsgroup
comp.sys.lanman will make a single place where Lan Manager network
administrators and users can share and obtain information.

         Additionaly, as operating systems such as MS Windows NT and IBM OS/2
2.0 gain popularity, interest in Lan Manager related networking will grow.
The networking capabilities of MS Windows NT are an implementation of
Microsoft Lan Manager, and IBM's Lan Server family of products (including the
forthcoming OS/2 Peer Services) is derived from Microsoft Lan Manager.  Other
OEM manufacturers of Lan Manager derived products include 3Com and HP.

        One issue remaining to be resolved is whether or not the existing
mailing list LANMAN-L will be gatewayed to comp.sys.lanman if it is created.
The administrator of the site hosting LANMAN-L has expressed his willingness
to create such a gateway, though final word will rest with the list's owner.

        A volunteer is needed to handle the vote collection, provided this
proposal reaches that stage.

Albert
-- 
Albert Crosby          | There are actually THREE things certain in this life:
acrosby@uafhp.uark.edu |
 or AL.CROSBY on GENIE |   Death, Taxes, and Parking Tickets.
1 501 575 4452         |
Xref: sparky news.announce.newgroups:1464 news.groups:25085 sci.lang:8657 sci.philosophy.tech:4696 comp.ai.philosophy:7219 talk.philosophy.misc:3183
From: Bijoy Sagar <t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu,alt.culture.kerala
Subject: RFD: soc.culture.lang.bengali
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 6 Jan 1993 19:34:14 -0500
Organization: Northern Illinois University
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

	This is to propose a new newgroup called soc.culture.lang.bengali.
This group is proposed to encourage discussion on the culture of Bengali
speaking people of different countries and the growth and evolution
of Bengali language and literature.

Introduction:
^^^^^^^^^^^^

Bengali language is spoken predominantly in Bangladesh, where it is the
state language, and in the West. Bengal state of India. This language
is also spoken by a large number of people in Assam and tripura States
and Andaman &Nicobar islands of India. Bengali language and literature 
have ancient roots and indigenous and Sanskrit literary contributions
from this region have been noteworthy. In the 19th century, the Bengali
literature and society witnessed a great rejuvenation consequently many writers became prominent, of which the most widely respected, Rabindranath Thakur
recieved the Nobel prize for literature.

Charter of the newsgroup
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The newly proposed newsgroup shall discuss the following topics.
It shall not discuss religious and political aspects of the 
Bengali populace or of the subcontinent.

(1) Growth and evolution of Bengali language - pre- and post-independence
period.
(2) Grammatical structure and semantics
(3) Evolution and geographical distribution of various dialects.
(4) Books written in Bengali.
(5) Any and all cultural media that use Bengali as the medium.
(6) Influence of other languages on Bengali and vice versa.
(7) Bengali language and the new challenges it faces.
(8) Anthropological connection to the evolution of Bengali language.
(9) Places and cities that are instrumental in the growth of the language.
(10) Any other related topic ( excluding religion and politics)

At present, I propose that the group should be unmoderated. However
if the consensus is for a moderator, we would respect that.

Discussion
^^^^^^^^^^

The discussion on the newsgroup shall be open for a 30-day period and
all the discussions should be carried out in news.groups. After 30
days, if a consensus is arrived, a  VOTE shall be called.
The voting period shall be for 21 day. While this posting is posted
to news.newgroups and all other related newsgroups of the subcontinent,
all the discussions shall be carried out in news.groups.
-- 
Bijoy Sagar
t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu
Xref: sparky news.announce.newgroups:1459 news.groups:25080 sci.crypt:6465
From: Thomas W. Strong, Jr. <strong+@cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.crypt
Subject: RFD: sci.crypt.research moderated
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 6 Jan 1993 19:34:23 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

  This is a formal Request For Discussion regarding the establishment of
  a newsgroup to discuss scientific and technical aspects of
  cryptography. The discussion has already begun in several newsgroups, 
  this is an attempt to formalize the discussion and begin the procedure
  for the creation of a new group.

  This announcement is cross-posted to newsgroups whose readers may have
  interest in the discussion about the new group. Follow-up discussion
  will take place in "news.groups". Comments may be emailed to me at 

  ts49+@andrew.cmu.edu

REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
----------------------

NEWSGROUP CREATION
		create	sci.crypt.research
		Charter	Scientific and technical matters applying to
			data en/decryption. (as opposed to the law, 
			politics, licensing, and ethics thereof)

RATIONALE

  I believe that a new group is needed simply because sci.crypt is so
  high-volume, and has such a low signal-to-noise ratio, that it is
  essentially impossible to use it for professional discussion about
  cryptography.  I don't think that sci.crypt should be removed, but
  instead that a new group, which will coexist with sci.crypt, is
  necessary.

  The idea of a moderated group has been floating around for a while,
  and it appears that there is sufficient support for it.  

  However, in the interests of naming consistency, we should probably keep
  sci.crypt for the hobbyists and create a new group called
  sci.crypt.research for serious researchers.

  Such a partitioning strategy has worked previously with sci.math and
  sci.math.research, so a precedent exists for this type of action.

  The moderation policy should be fairly non-restrictive.  (Postings will
  not be rejected for not meeting academc standards, however redundant and
  off-topic postings will be rejected.)

NEWSGROUP CREATION

  Please post all discussion to news.groups.

 -----------------------------------------------------------------
  Tom Strong              N3NBB              ts49+@andrew.cmu.edu

Xref: sparky news.announce.newgroups:1463 news.groups:25084 sci.space:18872 sci.astro:13719 sci.geo.fluids:448 sci.geo.geology:2676 sci.geo.meteorology:3566
From: posinski@boa.gsfc.nasa.gov (Cindy Posinski)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.space,sci.astro,sci.geo.fluids,sci.geo.geology,sci.geo.meteorology
Subject: CFV: sci.geo.eosdis moderated
Followup-To: poster
Date: 6 Jan 1993 19:34:46 -0500
Organization: gsfc.nasa.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

      CALL FOR VOTES FOR THE CREATION OF THE SCI.GEO.EOSDIS NEWSGROUP

The sci.geo.eosdis newgroup will be used by the Earth Observing System Data 
and Information System (EOSDIS) community for the sharing of EOSDIS related 
information.  It will include postings of "The Processor" and the "The Earth 
Observer," newsletters containing timely EOS news events and information on 
up-coming meetings.  The newsgroup will also contain information regarding the 
availability of new data sets, and other important EOS related material.  
There are currently hundreds of researchers and scientists around the world 
involved with EOS, and this would be a great forum for the sharing of ideas.

The sci.geo.eosdis newsgroup will be moderated by an EOS Project Office
representative.

TO VOTE:  If you would like to see sci.geo.eosdis created, please send your YES
          vote to:  posinski@boa.gsfc.nasa.gov.

	  If you do not want the sci.geo.eosdis created, send your NO vote to:
          posinski@boa.gsfc.nasa.gov.

Please make sure your vote is clearly worded, such as "I vote YES for the 
creation of the sci.geo.eosdis newsgroup." or "I vote NO for the creation of 
the sci.geo.eosdis newsgroup."  

Voting will be open until 27 Jan 93, 23:59 UTC.
Xref: sparky news.announce.newgroups:1481 news.groups:25254 rec.juggling:3416 rec.bicycles.misc:1932
From: weinss@rpi.edu (Stephen Andrew Weinstein)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,vmsnet.employment,misc.jobs.resumes,misc.jobs.offered,aus.jobs,ba.jobs.misc,ba.jobs.offered,bionet.jobs,biz.jobs.offered,can.jobs,misc.jobs.contract,ont.jobs,misc.jobs.offered.entry,ne.jobs
Subject: RFD: reorganization of misc.jobs and similar groups
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 11 Jan 1993 16:34:37 -0500
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

These proposals are independent.  Some can be approved without the others:
1. Rename misc.jobs.misc misc.jobs.discussion to cut down on postings there
	that belong in misc.jobs.wanted or misc.jobs.offered.
2. Create new group misc.jobs.nonpermanent or misc.jobs.shortterm for 
	temporary, co-op, summer, internship, etc., positions.  (Requests,
	offerings, and discussion)  (I'm still unsure of the exact 
	name.  "Temporary" has the wrong connotation.)
3. Split misc.jobs.offered.entry into misc.jobs.offered.entry.almost and
	misc.jobs.offered.entry.newgrads to because of complaints by people
	who felt that jobs requiring experience were de facto not entry level.
4. Create new hierarchy misc.jobs.local.* and move all regional job groups
	(aus.jobs, ne.jobs, ba.jobs, ca.jobs, can.jobs, ont.jobs, etc., etc.)
	under it (e.g. make ne.jobs into misc.jobs.ne).  This may make it 
	easier for people planning to move to find jobs in their 
	destination area.
5. Replace misc.jobs.offered and comp.jobs.offered, with
	misc.jobs.offered.computer and misc.jobs.offered.noncomputer.
	This should help with the current problems of computer jobs
	constituting most (but not all) postings to misc.jobs.offered
	and computer offerings being located in two separate groups.
6. Replace bionet.jobs, comp.jobs, vmsnet.employment, biz.jobs.*, and 
	similar groups, with misc.jobs.biology, misc.jobs.computer, 
	misc.jobs.computer.VMS, misc.jobs.business.*, etc.

Discussion period is the standard 30 days.
It is now the afternoon of the eleventh of January, 1993.
Therefore, CFV's on each proposal should be posted in Feb., unless
they are clearly shown to be unpopular during discussion.

Discussion should take place in news.groups ONLY, NOT the affected groups.

Some of these proposals were earlier made informally by others.
Some are original ideas of mine.
-- 
Stephen Weinstein
weinss@rpi.edu

RPI, where airplane building is faster than light bulb changing.
Xref: sparky news.announce.newgroups:1469 news.groups:25090 comp.object:4723 comp.lang.scheme:2879 comp.lang.lisp:3191 comp.lang.lisp.mcl:1944 comp.lang.c++:18781 comp.lang.misc:4092 comp.lang.smalltalk:2654 comp.lang.functional:1489 comp.lang.clos:1059