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From: JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: MOTU changing their customer support ways??
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:51:00 GMT


Listen, If I want to deal with a support person who 'cares about me', I'll go
find some Rogerian psychotherapist.  When I ask for customer support I expect
to talk (or recieve information from) some person knowledgable.  In the time
that I have been involved with reasonably high technology consumer/professional
stuff, with the exception of Radio Shack brain-dead salesdroids, I have never
encountered people rendering support who were anty LESS qualified than the 
people you get on the line when you call MOTU.  Maybe its me, but when I call
a technical support number for technical information I expect that the person
who ultimately fields the call has some technical knowledge.  It's nice that
Marc LoCascio reads this newsgroup and often takes personal interest in solving
people's problems.  It still seems to be pretty pathetic that he has to do
so because MOTU refuses to hire competent people for customer support.  Anyway,
it seems clear to me that if they don't start improving their customer support
that more and more people are going to move away from Performer, no matter how
good it has been in the past.  MOTU's continuing refusal to support OMS out
of blind competition just gives its customers one more reason to move to
Vision, and all the reason in the world for neophytes to adopt a Opcode
based system in the first place.  Personally, I will continue to use Performer
only until Notator for the Mac is available.  Even though C-Lab has been
a very elusive company to reach from the US, I have always gotten good
technical information from somewhere in the chain.  If I was MOTU, and I
expected to remain a viable software vendor, I'd start paying a bit more
attention to the needs and wants of the power users out there.  After all, if
you are going to market a piece of software to power users, shouldn't you be
able to deal with their concerns?

John
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: Christopher Evans <evans@natural.com>
Subject: --->Korg T3 EX PRICE REDUCED<---
X-Xxdate: Fri, 28 Aug 92 11: 20:55 GMT
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:21:12 GMT


Korg T3 EX Synthesizer for sale!

Excellent condition (home use only).  With sample memory.  About
1 year old.  Lots of extra disks of sounds.  I'm going back to playing
guitar full time so I just don't use it.  

The Korg T3 is the successor to the popular M1 series from Korg.  It has
a much larger display, more than twice the memory and a bunch of new
waveforms.  On top of that, this model can load even more samples from
disk or via MIDI Sample Dump.  It has disk drive and sounds FANTASTIC!

Price: $1700.00 or best serious offer.  

Please reply to evans@natural.com.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: ochikubo@.etdesg.trw.com (Craig F. Ochikubo)
Subject: Re: Help with SY99
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 00:49:41 GMT

In article <8@bbx.basis.com> scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.163829.6707@hpcvusn.cv.hp.com> bw@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com writes:
>>I am posting this for a friend who has an SY99.  This is a snippet of a 
>>message he sent me.  Any clues would be appreciated.  Thanks!
>>
>>  Also, if you ever come across synthesizer files on the Yamaha SY-99, I'd be
>>  interested in knowing if anyone else has had some baffling problems I've had
>>  with mine that Yamaha, at least on the phone, says they know nothing about.
>>[problems deleted]
>
>I've never experienced any problems with my SY99.  Sorry, I can't help.
>
>-- 
>Scott Amspoker                       |    
>Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |  Too bad ignorance isn't really
>                                     |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
>scott@bbx.basis.com                  |

I have never had any problems like that with mine either, what version of
firmware do you have?

craig
ochikubo@desperado.etdesg.trw.com
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.amiga.audio,comp.sys.atari
From: bryanf@hpmcaa (Bryan Ford)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcons $799!!!!!
Organization: HP Cardiology Business Unit - McMinnville, OR
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:22:33 GMT

jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young) writes:
>  The "base" Falcon 030 will retail for $799 in the USA in a one-
>  megabyte configuration.  The next option up the scale will be a four-
>  megabyte RAM with 65 megabyte hard drive Falcon at $1,399.

Commodore may have to start seriously dropping A3000 prices... :-)

Seriously, though, I'm excited about the possibilities of this machine in 
terms of using it as a hardware platform for running free "hacker OSes" like
Linux (if it can be ported to a 680x0) or the forthcoming GNU Hurd.  Since
from what I've heard the Atari OS is nothing fantastic, it sounds like they're
putting most of their effort into the hardware - which is fine if you're
planning on throwing out the bundled OS anyway.  The configuration of the
$1399 system (assuming the original posting is correct) is perfect for things
like this, and competes very well with 386 PCs (although possibly somewhat
cramped for hard drive space).

Are there any other GNUites out there with similar ideas?

Also, is there any particular reason why the original article was posted to
seemingly every newsgroup on the net EXCEPT comp.sys.atari.xxx??? :-)

				Bryan
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: og@access.digex.com (Gary Goldberg)
Subject: Yamaha TG100 Query
Organization: Personal Account - Digital Express Greenbelt, MD
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 15:50:30 GMT

I purchased a Yamaha TG100 sound module at MacWorld Boston. I was wondering
if anyone has any impressions of its sounds, use, or anything else that may
help me get a start with it. I'm using it with Trax and I've been able to play
SMF's through it, but not sure where to go next.

Oh, and Sierra OnLine's Leisure Suit Larry 5 plays well through it. - Gary

-- 
- Gary Goldberg og@access.digex.com Bowie, MD KA3ZYW
And NO organization to represent. ' ... Free, free at last ...'
Info on 'The Simpsons'? Let me know.
From: defrain@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Paul Defrain)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: VZ10 (was Re: Casio CZ-101
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:21:44 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Sep02.202116.11769@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
>
>I didn't think the VZ had the same voice architecture as the CZs.

It don't.

>Can you enlighten me on the voice architecture ? Did it have DCOs
>with ring mod, etc. ? If so I'll have to start looking for some used
>VZ10Ms I think ! :-)
>

Eight oscillators combined into four pairs. Ring, mix and phase "modulation"
schemes. Eight stage envelopes for each OP.  Good MIDI support, relatively
clumbsy user interface and average sound quality.  Not a bad box for the bucks.

Paul D.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: ecldco@ultb.isc.rit.edu (E.C. Loyd)
Subject: Roland MT-32
Originator: ecldco@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:18:48 GMT

I recently purchased a Roland MT-32 (pick-up date being tomorrow).  Since
about the only thing I know about it is that it was a great box in its time,
and still is a de-facto standard to some degree, I was wondering if anyone
had any patches for it lying around somewhere.  I'm leary of any ROM-based
Roland patch, as they always sound too reedy for my liking most of the time.
I prefer a more stringy sound.

I've checked a number of FTP sites, and can't find much in the way of MT-32
stuff.  Is it even possible to dump patches via MIDI on this beastie?

-Eric

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From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Parting with old synths
Date: 2 Sep 92 12:00:28 GMT
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: metlay@PHYAST.PITT.EDU's message of 1 Sep 92 22:16:56 GMT

In article <9209012216.AA08572@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu> metlay@PHYAST.PITT.EDU (metlay) writes:

   >How do you part with an old synth?

   Actually, I get better results if I use a comb.

Could've fooled me.

[Whisshh! BOP! Ouch.]

   I have never been of the opinion that a song requires a rigid timbre 
   selection.

I probably disagree here. I've redone Loremarie for the WS and D-70. It sounds
... OK ... but without the deep bells I had on the VFX it doesn't quite work.
Being without the D-50 stranded a lot of the ways in which I write filler
material; now I have the D-550 I can do it again. Should the Wavestation
leave my studio, that's a whole lot of musical material which will go
stiff; no other machine can do what I've done with the WS.

So, yes: spin it to DAT and freeze it. (I'm still upset that I didn't have
a DAT deck when I was mastering the Traverse set; I only have it on cassette,
which stinks quality-wise.) And when it comes to live work, well, reorchestrate
if you can, and if not, the piece can't be done.

(Aside: buying a WS is a big risk, because it'll soon have you doing things
 and building musical structures which cannot be approximated with any other
 unit. I'm sure glad there's a rack version available.)

	My latest rule of thumb for buying synths is
	deceptively simple: I will never buy a new
	(post-MIDI) synth that doesn't have a full
	graphic LCD display on board. Think about it!

True of all of 'em, in principle, now you have the PowerBook 100. That's
why I've bought that unit from William.

Nick.
--
  Nick Rothwell, LFCS, Edinburgh | "Say, how many contemporary dancers are
               nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk |     there in this bar?"
CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance | "Dunno; count the Dr. Martens and
     cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk |     divide by two..."
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Alesis D4: Possible to use Triggerinputs as MIDI-Triggers ?
From: Phil.O'Keefe@f170.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Phil O'Keefe)
Date: 23 Aug 92 15:19:42 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/170 - Cole Place Music Bo, Buena Park CA

In a message dated 17 Aug 92  22:25:25, Frank Breier wrote:

 FB> From: broe@dfv.rwth-aachen.de (Frank Breier)
 FB> Last week, I heard about this brandnew (in Germany!) Alesis D4 Drum
 FB> Module.
 FB> I have two questions:

 FB> First, how does it sounds ? Are there more akustical or electronic
 FB> sounds ?

 FB> Second, if you use these trigger inputs, is it possible to use other
 FB> Drum modules or sampler via MIDI ?

     Yes, yes, and yes! The D4 will let you use the trigger inputs and send 
MIDI signals from the triggers out over MIDI. These can be used to drive 
whatever you want: Sequencers, other drum sources (drum machines, samplers, 
etc.) even keyboards.
     There are about 500 sounds in the D4, and they range from acoustic to 
electronic, to a wide range of percussion. No timpani, and a few other 
omissions, but the QUALITY of the sounds is about as good as it gets IMHO. The 
only other box I am familiar with that I like nearly as much is the Roland 
R-8m, but it lacks the triggers, and is quitea bit more expensive.

                    Phil O'Keefe



 

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From: rdm@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Bob Morrison)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:30:06 GMT
Subject: Re: Grand Piano Advice Wanted
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

>I'm interested in buying one of the smaller grand pianos (under 6ft), and would

[stuff deleted]

>A friend of mine bought a Kawai KG1E (5'4") which he highly recommends. He

I second this recommendation.  I have a GS-50 (6'10) which I still enjoy
playing and listening to (long after the thrill of my synths' sounds have
worn off).  It has been free of problems for the last 6 years (bought new).

>My local dealer says he doesn't sell KG1's because their price is within a few
>hundred dollars of the KG2. But his "sale" price on the KG2 is $9850. I'm hoping
>for a great "recession deal" but the dealers of course claim that the prices
>they pay are still going up. What's a good price to pay for a KG2?

Yah, yah. They all always claim that, Steinway being the worst.  I was able to
negotiate a much better price, not because of recessionary times, but because
there are so many digital pianos.  They never need tuning and have other
features and sounds, and fewer people have time to really play, so selling a
big heavy piano is a lot harder than it used to be.  I can't directly answer
your question (what's a good price) but that sounds somewhat high to me.

>
>The Yamahas seem to cost more than the Kawais. I've also looked at a Schiedmayer

Yamahas used to be really good pianos, supposedly.  I didn't like the sound
as much (they were trying to imitate the bright sound of Steinways, if I got
the rumor right).  They are reliable (I have a friend who has had a 6'10 for
a long time without trouble).

>which is supposedly a German/Japanese collaboration built by Kawai.

Another one to look at might be the Boston piano, which I believe is a 
collaboration between Steinway and Kawai to produce a cheaper piano with a
Steinway design.

>
>Thanks in advance for any advice
>
>Richard Rodseth
>e-mail: rodseth@apple.com
>----------

For those who wonder what this is doing in rec.music.synth, think of this
as "better than digital *or* analog, mechanical!".  Actually, this string
might find a better home in rec.music.classical or some related notesgroup.

Bob Morrison, noisemaker at rdm@hpdmd48.hp.com
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From: watson@clark.edu (Dennis Watson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Atari Falcons $799!!!!!
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:49:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Aug27.204911.4365
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

OK OK So I don't read enough!  I have scanned a few of these Falcon posts
and I am still in the dark.  Is this a MacPlus clone or LC clone or what??

Thanx
Dennis
watson@clark.edu
From: davei@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr D Ingles)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Quick Score Deluxe
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:07:27 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.


Has anyone here used Quick Score Deluxe ? If so what was your opinion of it ?

Davei
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Organization: Black Silicon, Fortress of Computation
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:16:09 GMT-0500
Reply-To:     Dark Hacker <black-silicon!hacker@cs.UMD.EDU>
From:         Dark Hacker <black-silicon!hacker@CS.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Building a MIDI controller
Comments: To: "Redistribution of rec.music.synth" <SYNTH-L@AMERICAN.EDU>

> Begin forwarded message:
>

> From: delinck@PA881A.INLAND.COM
> Subject:      Building a MIDI controller
>

>     I was wondering, if I wanted to make my own midi controller, if there
>     is a chip out there that I can use to convert contact closures to midi
>     messages. I will probably use 32 notes, so a bunch of 'pedal boxes'
>     will probably be too expensive. I am looking at a real low cost
>     solution. One solution is to buy a cheap sythesiser with midi and tear
>     it apart. Does anyone have any recommendations? Does anyone have a used
>     one for sale?

What in the world are you building.... an AGO spec pedal board?

- Hacker
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 07:51:04 EDT
From:         "Sean F. Jepson" <SJEPSON@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Musician's Friend

I have found Musician's Friend to be $100-$200 over most other stores
in major metropolitan areas.


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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: apeltone@smtplink.oulu.fi (Antti Peltonen)
Subject: Miracle without keyb?
Organization: ATK-keskus
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:56:47 GMT

Hello,
I have seen many ads about Miracle piano teaching prg. but 
it is "complete set" with keyboard and RS midi (?!).

I already have keyboard, SC-55 and PC -so i don't need another
keyboard and i would like to play with SC sounds.

Is there any similar prgs for a some common PC-midicard (SB, Pro
Audio 16 or MPU-401) and (GS) sound module?

-Antti-

antti@phoenix.oulu.fi

P.S. I know there has been lot of discussion is the Miracle
     good or bad prg for learnig music -i don't care. I am
     already spoiled.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 08:22:53 PDT
Reply-To:     dunn@intellicorp.com
From:         Casey Dunn <DUNN@SAFFRON.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Why I like the Mac for Music
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AMERICAN.EDU

You said (Re: Re: Why I like the Mac for Music)
> In article <D88-JWA.92Sep3105305@dront.nada.kth.se> d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se
> (Jon W{tte) writes:
>
>    However, to tie in to MIDI; I'm waiting for QuickTime to
>    support MIDI as track data. It's supposed to come! Way
>    cool!
>
> Pah, given Apple's record with MIDI Manager (you know, that important system
> component to boost the power of your Macintosh for MIDI, and which will be
> an integral part of the forthcoming System 7) I doubt it.
>
> I don't have any use for QuickTime anyway. I don't work with pictures. I
> work with dancers.
>
> Nick.
> --
>   Nick Rothwell, LFCS, Edinburgh | "Say, how many contemporary dancers are
>                nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk |     there in this bar?"
> CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance | "Dunno; count the Dr. Martens and
>      cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk |     divide by two..."

Nick-1,
	someday those dancers will want videos for their resume', or
	reels if dancers call em that. sometimes used for grant
	getting, tho I don't know if you guys have such things
	overthere anymore.
	I've used projected real-time effected video projected over
	dancers of the dancers. warp this generation of video sucking
	children right out, thata way.
	check out Tharps' video version of The Catherine Wheel dance.
	It would be better done now, but there is a nice melding of
	video and dance and computer graphics.

	it's just another peice of the performance spectrum.

	I must pointout, however, that it adds yet another whole
	hassle to any production. (I've had camera people flakier than
	drummers, if you care to believe that!)

c a s e y
From: JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Peter Sinfield (was .. something else entirely)
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:10:00 GMT


He also wrote poor lyrics for and produced P.F.M. I think he was also 
responsible for signing them to Manticore (or whatever the ELP label was called)

John
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From: fontana@iroquois.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Fontana)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.music,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: SURVEY: Which PC MIDI interface do you use?
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:40:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: cis.1992Aug28.174050.12083
Followup-To: rec.music.synth
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science


I'm involved in some software development involving MIDI, and I'd
like to know which MIDI interface(s) you currently use.

Note that this survey applies ONLY to owners of IBM compatible machines.

Both dedicated MIDI interfaces (Roland, Music Quest, Voyetra, etc) and
multimedia/sound cards are acceptable, as well as serial port devices,
as long as the device supports MIDI.

I'd appreciate it if you could send a quick message noting:

     1) Manufacturer
     2) Model
     3) Approximate year purchased
     4) Is it MPU-401 compatible?
     5) In your opinion, is it well-supported?
     6) Any additional comments you'd like to make about the device

If you can speak for a friend who is not on the net, please do so.
I'll post a summary when the survey is complete.


Thanks,

Mark Fontana
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: broe@dfv.rwth-aachen.de (Frank Breier)
Subject: Alesis D4: Help me !!
Organization: Communication Networks
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 06:18:35 GMT

Hi,

I bought an Alesis D4 three days ago, and now I've got my first problem.
If I let play it via Midi, the drums cut themselves off. The HiHat seems to
be ok, but the bassdrum jumps from one side to the other, and the snare
cannot be heard.
The very informative manual (some pieces of paper) could not help me,
who could solve my problem ?

Thanx in advance,

    Frank
    
    
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From: 00bwanderson@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Atari Falcons $799
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:04:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.080019.15267@husc3.harvard.edu>, fry@tara.harvard.edu (David Fry) writes:
> In article <1992Sep1.052243.15525@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young) writes:
>>YES even in computer industry roots are found at Atari Computer company.
>>Apple founders Steve Wozniac and Steve Jobs went to Atari. 
> 
> For lunch, maybe.  What this supposed to mean?

It means they worked for Atari once, long before they went on to found Apple. 
Basically, they developed one or two (or more???) games together (with Woz
doing the work and Jobs taking the $$$ and credit...sound familiar?) and then
left.  Wheee...fun.

> 
> David Fry                                  fry@math.harvard.edu
> Division of Applied Sciences               fry@huma1.bitnet
> Harvard University                      ...!harvard!huma1!fry
> Cambridge, MA  02138

Bruce            
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