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From: crawford@acsu.buffalo.edu (___Red Devil___)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Cornell University systems
Keywords: mail Cornell
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:55:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.Bw8FGn.2DD
Distribution: usa
Organization: WFFT UB's ONLY Student Station!

v120q4jf@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Rob B.) writes:

>I just wanted to make a correction concerning William Chan's statement on 
>Cornell giving out computer accounts.  I wrote the Consult there and he told
>me that they're phasing out VAX and IBM mainframe accounts at Cornell.  
>Therefore, UNIX accounts are the only kind of computer accounts that Cornell
>is currently giving out. 

Let's get the info straight.  They are phasing out the VM/CMS, VAX/VMS, and 
the DEC Station 5,000's and replacing it with a lot of smaller micro computers
to which user's can POP to postoffice.cornell.edu and read their mail.  Their
address, as stated before is user@cornell.edu, or alternately,
user@postoffice.cornell.edu  But, they're downsizing as most of the
universities are...

Here's A Statement right from the horses mouth:

 qi.cornell.edu is the "phonebook" or directory of users.  Here is the correct
 situation...

     New requests for accounts (new students and upperclass who never got an id
 before.)  are receiving NETWORK IDs  which are for accessing BEAR ACCESS which
 include NuPOP, CHAT (IRC), FTP , Newsreaders.. etc.  Cornella accounts are
 given out only to people in certain classes who need to access it.  Vax
 accounts for new students aren't getting them unless it is needed for a class
 or a project.
 
 UNIX accounts are NOT given out freely.  Access to Crux1, Crux2, (DEC Station
 5000s) and to the new SUN cluster is restricted to those with a specific need
 such as being in a CS class.

Hope this helps.

(also if you're mailing Rob back, his username is rbrennan@acsu, and not
RBRENNAN@acsu as he put in his .sig.. it's a unix machine folks!)

)_Dennis_(


-- 
Dennis G. Crawford, WFFT-FM -- Buffalo, New York   [crawford@acsu.buffalo.edu]
SUNY--BUFFALO, Media Studies Major and Operations Manager WFFT, (716)645-2694
"My only hope is one day I'll forget the pain of knowing what can never be..."
From: feinstei@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: CSU Refund Scam
Summary: How they're trying to hold your refund for ransom
Date: 12 Oct 92 05:51:29 GMT
Reply-To: feinstei@sonoma.edu
Distribution: ca
Organization: Sonoma State University



I'd like to share this experience with other CSU students that might 
be in the same boat as I am.

I had to cut down from a full unit load to 6 units this semester because
with the fee increases I can afford only the part-time tuition. A 
couple of weeks ago, when I dropped my units, the nice folks at the 
cashier's office told me I could expect to get my refund check in the 
mail within a week and a half or so. Okay. 

On Friday there was still no sign of it in the old mailbox so I went 
to the cashier's office to inquire about it. They told me that the 
refund checks of people who dropped from full-time to part-time were 
being *held* in the cashier's office until their owners paid the fee 
increase. In other words, they said they wouldn't give me my $198 
refund until I wrote them a check for the $108 fee increase. They 
justified this ransom tactic as being their way of ensuring that we 
paid the fee increase.

I told the cashier that this was most definitely not a happening 
scenario, and I would not take "no" for an answer. Then she gave me 
the old "I just work here" scenario and I ended up talking to her 
supervisor. 

I told her supervisor that first of all, I had been told that I would 
be getting my check in a week and a half and I had budgeted 
accordingly. Secondly, I asked her what security the University had 
against people who hadn't dropped from full-time to part-time not 
paying the fee increase. She said they were subject to disenrollment. 
I pointed out that I and others like me would be equally subject to
disenrollment. The third thing I told her was that I ought to be 
given the same amount of time to pay the fee increase as anyone else.

And then she handed me my check.

I am posting this to try to pass the word about what they're up to 
and share how I got around it.

Peace
--
Josh Feinstein <feinstei@sonoma.edu>              I disclaim nothing.
PGP key available via .plan or email
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleenus Schwartz Davis)
Subject: Re: SURVEY: Intervisitation Policy at YOUR school?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 06:57:10 GMT

JBright.Wbst129@xerox.com writes:

>Seriously, I think it's too bad that we still have visitation rules and regs. 
>I also am a little disappointed that we don't have true co-ed halls (i.e. one
>room is male, and the room next to it is female). As it stands, co-ed halls
>usually consist of different wings. . .


I go to Indiana University, and I live on a co-ed floor.  
It's the only one on campus, and it's in its second year.  
There have been no problems at all.  However, no one can
be placed here by the 'lottery' system; you must request
it specifically on your room request form.  Believe it or 
not, the women outnumber men by a ratio of about 10 to 4.


-sz      (*smirk*  Life is grand. . .)
From: smaurer@lazy.helios.nd.edu (sean maurer)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: visitation? Ha!
Date: 8 Oct 92 02:15:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

Ah...
I jsut have to put in my $0.02 worth.
Here at ND we have one sex dorms and members of the opposite sex aren't allowed

to be in a alright I've already confused myself so PC is going out the window.
what I am saying is that women can't be in guy's dorm after 12ter 2;00 on weekend the penalty is expulsion or at a minimum you will be forced to move off campuswith two days notification and no refund of your room and board.  Furthermore, sex is explicitly outlawed in the student handbook and this applies not only during school but also in the summer.  unenforceable of course, but still shows whatan anal school I attend.  But.. I do know of one school that is worse...Indiana
Wesleyan. They can't even have ladies in their rooms at all.
I can't wait to go to Stanford for grad school.

I just have to 
--
Sean Maurer smaurer@artin.helios.nd.edu
From: mwolinsk@nmsu.edu (SKIman)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: SURVEY: Intervisitation Policy at YOUR school?
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:16:22 GMT
Reply-To: mwolinsk@nmsu.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Mexico State University

Adam Elman writes
..My guess is that this sort of thing is more common in the more
..conservative midwestern and eastern states, as well as the less
..populated states in the West (such as New Mexico).  It depends on the
..social norms in the area.
..
..Adam Elman
..aelman@cs.stanford.edu

I would agree with this statement.  I also tend to notice that whenever you
make the comment that you want a girl in your room after midnight, the only
this you could be doing is having sex.  It seems to be a very limited track
of mind.

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From: PMONGEAU@MIAMIU.BITNET
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Changing names of the student body (poll)
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:48:34 GMT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

At Miami University (0hio), the Freshman/First Year Student issue came
up a few years ago.  I frankly can't remember if I am supposed to use
freshman or first-year student.  My memory was that they decided against
it since it woud be confusing to have first year students who are in their
second year of classes.
 
Demeaning?  Yes, but so are sophomore and junior.
 
Paul
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: starke@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Gerolf J Starke)
Subject: add.: Uni of Edinburgh ??
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 12:38:41 GMT

Dear Readers!

Please can anyone help me: I am looking for the e-mail address
(postaster) of the Napier University of Edinburgh (but Uni.
of Eddinburgh will be fine, too).

Any comments appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Gerolf J. Starke
-- 
Gerolf J. Starke                              phone: +49/631/205-2128
Institute of Applied Mechanics                internet: starke@rhrk.uni-kl.de
University of Kaiserslautern, 6750            compuserve: 100010,3451
Germany                                       fax: +49/631/205-3055
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: sfadden@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (Steve Fadden)
Subject: Re: MORE TIME NEEDED DURING EXAMS
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 04:07:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.194647.1754@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu 
writes...
>                          MORE TIME NEEDED DURING EXAMS
> 
>     The biggest academic problem that I encountered in school was the SHORTAGE
>OF TIME usually allowed during exams.
> 
>     It is a BASIC FACT OF LIFE that "HASTE MAKES WASTE".  When a person feels
>pressed for time, s/he can NOT think clearly, and makes MORE MISTAKES (which
>there is IN-sufficient time allowed to find and correct).
> 
>     Most students spend a LOT of time PREPARING for exams, (taking notes at
>lectures, reading the textbook(s), doing the homework, REVIEWING for the exam,
>etc.).  Therefore, they DESERVE more time DURING exams.
> 
>     If an exam is designed to take an hour, then students should be ALLOWED an
>HOUR AND A HALF, even if it means moving to a different room to finish. 
>[Students should be encouraged to SPACE their classes an hour apart to take
>advantage of this.]  
> 
>     Teachers should serve The STUDENTS, NOT the other way around.
> 
> 
>                               Robert E. McElwaine
> 


Actually, the teachers are serving a functional role to the community at large, 
not the individual needs of each student.  Regardless of how things should 
work, a majority of one's tuition does not go into professor's pockets.

IMHO, college is a time for students to learn how to define their thoughts, 
and streamline these thoughts into meaningful answers that are brief, clear,
and concise.  It is not a time to "prove" you have read the material, or 
studied for hours on end.  Many professors, I understand, do teach this way; but
on the whole, I think many others already assume that the readings have been
done, etc.  Professors aren't usually "out to get" the students.  

College is a time to learn social interaction skills, as well as to build 
relationships that are based on more than what was focussed on during earlier
years of school.  Courses are designed to give students the basic building
blocks of their future field of work/study.  This information can then be a 
springboard to learning and integrating existing knowledge as well as personal
opinion.

For what it's worth,

- Steve
...............................................................................
: Steve Fadden                                    sfadden@ucsvax.ucc.umass.edu :
: University of Massachusetts, Amherst                              Psychology :
Newsgroups: soc.college
From:  (J Klein)
Subject: Re: Monthly GRE's?
Followup-To: soc.college
Organization: Public Macs, Academic Computing, Yale University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 02:37:25 GMT

> > I heard somewhere that there's a place in DC that offers the
> > GRE on a monthly basis...Can anyone confirm this? Where is it?
> 
> I find this hard to believe as the ETS publishes official
> test dates and registration times.  FYI, the next available
> test dates are...

May be hard to believe, but it's somewhat true.  For GRE SUBJECT tests
only, there are special administration times at various places around the
country.  Added to the regular dates in D.C. are:
November 14
January 23
March 6
May 15
July 17
August 14.
Check your GRE Registration & Information Bulletin; it's all there.
The telephone # listed for D.C. info (tho' it's not in D.C.) is:
(609) 951-1800.
From: kk776307@longs.LANCE.Colostate.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Need Help at ISIS.CS.DU.EDU
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:58:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College


I have been trying to contact Sabina Thomas at isis.cs.du.edu for the past
2 months.  The server there refuses all mail, finger and talk commands, can
anybody help me locate her?




THANKS IN ADVNCE



*********  Please Reply to haroon@lamar.colostate.edu  NOT the Address above
From: ywang1@husc8.harvard.edu (Yongkang Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Infor Wanted:Professors
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:58:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Oct13.185900.16352
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Hi,

I would like to contact a number of professors, for academic reason, at the 
Economics Departments of the following Unversities and Institutions, 
but I don't have their email addresses.  If you are from any of the following universities, 
would you please email me and we will see if you can help me out.
Thank you in advance.


  Stanford University
  Columbia Unicersity
  Yale University
  Univesrity of Iowa
  UC San Diago
  University of Barcelona
  Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, Washington


Best Regards,

Yong
ywang1@husc8.harvard.edu
 
Newsgroups: soc.college
From:  (J Klein)
Subject: Re: Best Social Work Institution?
Followup-To: soc.college
Organization: Public Macs, Academic Computing, Yale University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:15:02 GMT

In article <fburdette-141092103152@fburdette.worldbank.org>,
fburdette@worldbank.org (Franklin P. Burdette) wrote:
> 
> A relative will soon be graduating from high school and is very interested
> in a career in social work. Any tips on the great SW schools would be
> greatly appreciated!


I've heard Smith is the best SW school; I hope your realtive is female. 
However, to be a social worker requires a grad degree (M.S.W), so the
undergraduate school is not really that important...
From: James_S._Bright.wbst129@XEROX.COM
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: SURVEY: Intervisitation Policy at YOUR school?
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:10:51 GMT
Reply-To: JBright.Wbst129@xerox.com


Adam wrote:

>I'm not sure you are talking to me specifically, but if you are -- if
>you get that impression, it's because I'm thinking of why these
>restrictions would exist in the first place, and that's the only thing
>that comes to mind.  Never having had to deal with that sort of
>restriction, I tend to take having people hang around in my room, or
>hanging around in anyone else's room, utterly for granted.
>

Well you know, if we didn't have visitation rules here (at Va Tech) we'd do
what college students do best -- multiply (and you thought rabbits had the
market cornered). Never would cross my mind to study until the early daylight
hours....

[intended sarcasim]

Seriously, I think it's too bad that we still have visitation rules and regs. I
also am a little disappointed that we don't have true co-ed halls (i.e. one
room is male, and the room next to it is female). As it stands, co-ed halls
usually consist of different wings (one being female, one male) or floors that
alternate sex. IMHO, this doesn't mimic the true lifestyle of someone who is
living on there own. How many apartment complexes have you heard of that place
restrictions such as these?

Okay, I'll take my complaining else where. Just thought some of you out there
might appreciate hearing what it is like at other Universities. Hey, I like my
school, but don't always agree with 'em.

jbright.wbst129@xerox.com

disclaimer: These views are strictly my own, are not meant to represent
Xerox, its associates, my parents, my school, nor my dog's.
From: mwolinsk@nmsu.edu (SKIman)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: ALCOHOL:  New Survey
Date: 11 Oct 92 20:31:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: nmsu.1992Oct11.203127.7937
Reply-To: mwolinsk@nmsu.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Mexico State University

Liu writes
..RA's at Stanford are *not* responsible for enforcing any Stanford policies,
..alcohol or otherwise.  The theory being that if RA's were placed in the role
..of police, then students would be reluctant to approach us about personal
..problems, and that the dorm community would suffer.
........Elson.....

That's an interesting policy, and certainly one that I'm going to mention when
I give my report.  Being an RA myself, I had to do an "Alcohol Bust" last
night, five minutes before I wanted to leave for our football game started.
I was wearing my Busch hat!  I don't think that looked too good. ;)

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Newsgroups: soc.college
From: mdchaney@fractal.ucs.indiana.edu (M Darrin Chaney)
Subject: Re: visitation? Ha!
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:42:29 GMT

I've got the lot of you beat!  Here at Indiana University, Bloomington
Campus, we still have "THE VAULT!"  There is a female dorm (I don't
remember the name, but it's the southern-most dorm on campus) which
has a floor that is all female.  Not surprising since the building is
entirely female (there are two buildings).

The main difference is that absolutely no men are allowed on the
certain floor.  This means *no* men.  No male janitors, no fathers
of the women living there, no male administration members, etc.
It's really wierd, and IU is thinking of getting rid of it.  The
rest of that hall has normal visitation, such as what others have mentioned
here.

The hall that I lived in was the 21 and over dorm, where drinking was
allowed, and visitation was completely open (anyone could wander anywhere
in the dorm unescorted).  Men and women generally weren't on the same side
of the building, but they mixed in the common lounges.

I actually kind of liked dorm life, but I could never live there again.
Too many belongings.

	Darrin
-- 

mdchaney@iubacs mdchaney@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu mdchaney@rose.ucs.indiana.edu

"I want- I need- to live, to see it all..."
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: tjoa@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Richard Tjoa)
Subject: Re: BU Phone Rates Change...
Keywords: phone sex money sex "features"
Organization: You see, Burke Lee?
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:16:43 GMT

In article <Bvu6Fn.L26@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> vmenkov@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Vladimir Menkov) writes:
>In article <97167@bu.edu> navsaria@bass.bu.edu (Dipesh Navsaria) writes:
>>
>>Over the summer, Boston University had contracted with New England Telephone
>>to modernize BU's phone system.  The results of the deal were as follows:
>[description of voluntary-mandatory services deleted]
>>... I was annoyed at the new rates they've set up.  It cost me $9.88 a
>>month over the summer for basic measured phone service and touch-tone, and now
>>for that same service (plus the supposedly "free" features which I don't want
>>nor need), I'm being charged over 14 dollars.
>>
>>                       ----     Dipesh Navsaria
>
>Hmmm, here in Indiana University dorms one must pay $25.00 per month for
>what they call `basic telephone service'. There is no cheaper options
>(barring having no phone at all :))  Meanwhile residents of the city
>of Bloomington can choose between flat rate (<~$15/mo) or proportional
>rate (~$12/mo + $0.21 per each call over 30) + $0.69/mo for touch-tone.
>	--Vladimir Menkov


Here at Cal (in the residence halls), we get our phone service from the
campus Telecommunications Service.  It's $13.00/rm/month, divided by the
number of people with active phone "accounts".  We have individual access
codes which are dialed after the phone number, so that billing stays
separate.  They leave the phones connected all year long, so there's also
no installation charge.  (As a consequence, phone numbers are sequential,
useful for trying to reach someone when their line is busy...)  Also, we
get unlimited calling in a 12mi radius.

You cannot select a long distance company, since I think they buy up huge
blocks of LD time from Sprint.  Also, they issue calling cards which you
can use when you are away from campus.  Calls cost in the neighborhood of
$.11 a minute, out of state, and whatever Pac Bell charges, in the region.

It's fairly featureless, but then again, we're college students!  Call
Waiting is about the only option, and that's about $2/mo+$5 installation
fee.  (The charge can only be applied to one roomate.)


-Richard
"It's great!"  However, there are no data lines, and if you want a second
line it's $150 for installation (Yikes!).  I think they're lying about the
difficulty of installing it.

Newsgroups: soc.college
From: s0558191@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Chris Belanger)
Subject: Re: SURVEY: Intervisitation Policy at YOUR school?
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:22:12 GMT

In article <BvsJBA.5q6@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleenus Schwartz Davis) writes:
>JBright.Wbst129@xerox.com writes:
>
>>Seriously, I think it's too bad that we still have visitation rules and regs. 
>>I also am a little disappointed that we don't have true co-ed halls (i.e. one
>>room is male, and the room next to it is female). As it stands, co-ed halls
>>usually consist of different wings. . .
>
>
>I go to Indiana University, and I live on a co-ed floor.  
>It's the only one on campus, and it's in its second year.  
>There have been no problems at all.  However, no one can
>be placed here by the 'lottery' system; you must request
>it specifically on your room request form.  Believe it or 
>not, the women outnumber men by a ratio of about 10 to 4.
>
>
>-sz      (*smirk*  Life is grand. . .)
>
	These regulations and limitations really amaze me, I never realized
other schools were so strict. At the University of Mass. we can have up
to four signed in guests to visit or two overnight (realistically, you 
can have more if they arrive before security is on duty or if friends
sign them in) It doesn't matter if these guests are male or female and
no one checks to see when they leave. 

Newsgroups: soc.college
From: cthorne@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Charles E Thorne)
Subject: Re: Changing names of the student body (poll)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:48:03 GMT

In article <8eoZdEu00WBM49BOIa@andrew.cmu.edu> mw4l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew Paul Wakefield) writes:
>here at CMU, where most of my friends (as well as myself) are on the 5,
>6, or 7 year plan,  terms such as sophomore, junior, and senior, really
>don't mean all that much, although freshman still means first year
>students.  what would you use for someone who's been here 4 years and
>will graduate in 2? 3nd year ==sophomore? 2nd year junior? Senior twice
>removed ? 

>by the way, are there rates of graduation lower than cmu's anywhere?
>we have somewhere around 2/3 graduation after 5 years.

As life becomes more complicated, it takes longer to learn.  At one time
doctor's were apprenticed to learn a "trade".  Likewise nurses were
trained in hospitals (after they came into being).  At one time you could
study law as an apprentice.  I had a grandfather who learned teaching at
a "normal school".  State normal schools (two years to learn to teach) were
common in Ohio into the 20's.  Now Ohio State does not certify it's education
graduates--they need to take a master's degree to be certified to teach.

I'm not sure increased time in school improves the situation.  A recent
book on how bad U.S. education has become mentions that almost half of
the nation's science teachers didn't study the science they're teaching
in college.

Charlie