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From: shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Video
Date: 12 Sep 1992 00:34:02 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, U. C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Aug30.231314.9770@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, Harry McQuillen
(bluefox@well.sf.ca.us) wrote:


> I'm just wondering about the current situation on Phish Video.
>
> Audience- I know they allow/encourage audio taping, but is it allowed/
> reccomended to tape audience video?

As far as I am aware, audience video taping of shows is not being 
encouraged at this time.  I wouldn't recommend trying it unless you
have clearly received advance permission. 

> Professional Video- Any way we can get that video from Shoreline 

Funny you should mention that...the band thought very highly of the
video made by the staff at Shoreline, and Trey mentioned to me that
they were considering releasing it with a bit of older stuff as a 1-hour
video tape which would be available at shows or by mailorder.  If folks
would like to see this happen, I think a little encouragement couldn't
hurt :-)  (translation - if you're motivated, drop 'em a line at the 
new office address: Phish, 57 Harvard Street, 2nd floor, Waltham, Ma.
02154, and let them know...or as always, if you email something for
them to me, I'll pass it along {if that's easier for you}). 

Shelly 

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: MH1406@student.law.duke.edu
Subject: Personal To Ellis of Lemuris
Reply-To: MH1406@student.law.duke.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:37:46 GMT

SORRY NON-ELLIS PEOPLE

Hey Ellis,
    This is Matt Heller, you may remember me (i'd hope so) as a TKE
friend of Kristen's, spent some time at your place for C'ville shows,
met you many times (but my last name probably means nothing to you,
hence the long description).
    I indeed have excellent versions of 4/17 (alas no 4/21) that was
peeled off a DAT tree.  Get in touch to set up a trade.  Hi Kristen!!

Matt
mh1406@student.law.duke.edu
From: le7y@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re:Phish and Prayer:controversy!
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:56:39 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

   To answer Jeff's question, yes they actually do sing the real prayer, the
whole way through.

Sarah
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:42:16 EDT
From: <ARB108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject:    phish/Binghampton/3-20-92

i just read something about someone who had a tape of this show
Binghampton   3-20-92 (he even manetioned the great Sanity played)
anyway... i "bleeped" the post  so if the person who wrote it
(written for a request) can email to arb108@psuvm.psu.edu  i would
really apprecieate it.   i am very interested in acquiring the tape
(in case anyone else reads this)
--- tony
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: usenet@williams.edu (USENET News Administrator)
Subject: Phish in Denmark
Organization: Williams College
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 01:28:15 GMT

  I just got back to school, and am catching up with Phish news.  I
may have missed reviews of the Phish shows in Europe, so sorry if this
is old news...  This summer I went to the Roskilde Music Festival which
is this totally amazing woodstockesque four day, four stage, one
hundred groups musical extravaganza.  It was a widely huge and
musically diverse musical endurance test. For example, in one long day
it was possible to catch KRS-1, Megadeth, the London Chamber
Orchestra, David Byrne, and a thousand Scandinavian bands you never
heard of.  Despite relentless 90 degree weather and an ever growing
cloud of dust over the gigantic meadow where we all camped out, the
crazy Danes were undeterred in consuming vast quantities of very good
but very warm beer and having the hugest and most totally funnest
party ever witnessed by me.  
And yes, that crazy foursome from Vermont was there. (otherwise I
never would have been convinced to go, and would have missed many
strange and cool bands)  They were relegated to the smallest stage,
but drew a good sized crowd out of the 70,000 that were there.  The
set was about an hour long with an encore, due to the schedule of the
place, and jam-packed with all the old classics.  I don't really
remember the set list exactly.  It seemed like there were about twenty
people or so who had actually heard of Phish before, though musical
language participation was nil.  I have a nifty picture of myself
standing a couple feet in front of Trey with a big goofy grin on my
face which is probably the best review of that show or Phish in
general I could think of...  The funniest part of the show was this
crazy looking white haired old lady who for some reason introduced the
band and later came back after the set and after the encore to try to
calm the frenzied masses.  She wins my award for the most unhip person
of the year, mainly for referring to the band as "The Phish."  "Do you
want more of THE PHISH?..." etc. You probably had to be there.
Anyway, if you've made it this far the moral of this post is: A. The
Roskilde Music Festival is a GOOD THING and you should see it if
you're around, and B. Don't stand to close to the stage or you
won't be able to see Page behind his piano!

	Dave Barker  (Fluffhead!)
	David.Barker@williams.edu


Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "FEELING PHISHY? call 857-1457." <JUSCHUMA@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: a little phrustrated!!!
Reply-To: JUSCHUMA@ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:03:21 GMT


sorry to be posting this, but I can't find another way of doing this so
be patient with me!!! (actually, it really does have something to do
with everyone now that I reflect on it...)
I'm a phreshman at Indiana U, and really haven't had an opportunity
to do some local trading.  I'm hoping that there are some people
involved with the phishnet that will see this at IU, so if you're out
there, call me or email me!!! Also, if anyone anywhere else knows
of some local traders, or phish phreaks, please let me know.
I would appreciate it, as I'm phrantically trying to phind these phish
phanatics!!!!!!
                     JON SCHUMAN
                     812-857-1457
                   ashton center
                     hershey, rm#106
                     bloomington, indiana, 47406
 
                     email -- juschuma@ucs.indiana.edu
From: shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Charter for group
Date: 13 Sep 1992 21:28:36 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, U. C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.berkeley.edu

John Baker asked what this group is all about...I thought this little
piece of digital history might help to answer his question, and that
others might like to see it also.

reprinted from John Whitehead's original Request For Discussion for
rec.music.phish, many months ago:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Proposed charter:

This newsgroup provides a public forum for topics related to the
musical group Phish.  

Rationale:

Phish's unique blend of musical styles and talents has gathered 
a large following of devoted fans that carries beyond the confines 
of the concert hall.  This newsgroup is intended to bring these
people together for discussions of the band's music (opinions, chord
charts), lyrics (transcriptions, interpretation), performances
(reports, reviews), tape trading, pholklore, interviews, and
related topics.

The reason for creating this newsgroup is that Phish has already
demonstrated a substantial following in the electronic world.
In the middle of 1991 the Phish Digest was created and now over
300 people are subscribed to it.  The increasing number of users
and discussion topics make it very difficult to keep up with as a 
digest.  

If we were to create rec.music.phish, there would be a more
organized forum for the increasing interest in Phish.  The 
current members would be more inclined to participate in it
and less likely to avoid it because of heavy volume.  In
addition, the traffic is expected to increase this spring 
with the release of Phish's first major-label album.

This is not a call for votes.  This RFD will continue from the
date of this posting until about Feb. 1, 1992.

If a vote is warranted, we will accept votes from Feb. 1, 1992
until about Mar. 1, 1992.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

On a somewhat related topic, it seems as though the cracker responsible
for creating the incredibly annoying thread affecting us lately is doing
their best to keep the whole mess from dying....nonetheless, if we can
be patient, it simply has to go away sooner or later.  If it doesn't,
though, there is one other option we could explore: turning rec.music.phish
into a moderated newsgroup (which means that someone would be responsible
for "approving" every article sent to the group before it would be posted
or included in a digest).

Shelly


Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: DCARBALLO%COLGATEU.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Subject: Looking for this summers Orpheum show.
Reply-To: DCARBALLO%COLGATEU.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:02:26 GMT

Hello all,
   This summers show at the Orpheum in Boston, I believe it was May 15th,
may have been the best musical experiance of my life.  If anybody knows of
any copies, I have stuff to trade and would love to wheel 'n deal.
               Thanks,
                        Dave
From: CART9721@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Pre-Page Phish tape
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:54:17 GMT
Reply-To: CART9721@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
Organization: The Internet

Hey All,
	I've been doing some catch-up reading as well as reading new digests so
this may be an old subject but anyway, someone was asking about pre-Page tapes 
and I've just found one.  It's dated either 12-10-84 or 12-1-84 and was 
recorded at Nectar's.  Overall it's a great tape (starts out Scarlet Begonias->
Fire->Fire on the Mountain and later has the Dude of Life singing Skippy 
McGruff and Fee) but I only have 45 minutes of the show.  I'd be happy to make 
some trades as I want my collection to expand but keep in mind that I don't 
have the whole show.  Does anyone else have more of this show?  I'd REALLY like
to find it.  Also, I have a tape that I'm trying to find out its origin, from
what I can remember it begins with Sneakin' Sally and although the following is
not in order the songs include: Wilson, Y.E.M., Take the A Train and the tape
ends with On Your Way Down (**HOT**) and I Didn't Know.  During the show Trey
says,"Welcome to the Front" so I'm assuming a Burlington, Vt. show but would
like a date and the other set(s) if possible. That's it for now, Later!

                            It's the Individual not the Race that determines
                            what and who s/he is %^)!!!

                            Peace, Love, and Toys,
                            Sean Cartwright
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: whitecow@athena.mit.edu
Subject: please add me to the digestified list
Reply-To: whitecow@athena.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 05:31:38 GMT

please add me to the digestified list

Katie Joynt
whitecow@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu
Subject: odd and end (only one of each)
Reply-To: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 02:40:53 GMT

odd: re video taping of shows-
A freind of mine asked Andy if he could bring a camcorder to a Phish show and was told that they had enough trouble getting Electra to agree to audio taping.
However, as many of us know, it used to be allowed.  (Whatever happened to 
the NYE (90-91) video anyway?  It was a mediocre show (Chucklehead played way
too long), but I would like to see it.  Good ol' creative formal dress...)
end: Phish opening for the Dead NYE=
I think Phish have more important things to do that night (e.g. a three set
show (I hope) in New England) than to be an opening band.  Actually, after
the Santana shows, I doubt they'll do THAT again (hope hope hope)

Oh well, back to real analysis (or as I call it real anal- fits my personality
:@)
-David "ZZYZX" Steinberg
From: leaf@kenyon.edu (GETTING IT CLEARLY THROUGH ALTERNATE PATHS)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: back from break
Date: 6 Sep 92 16:39:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Sep6.163909.19372
Reply-To: leaf@kenyon.edu
Organization: The Internet

Well, I'm finally back from a long Phish-less summer break.  I didn't get to
see any of the summer tour shows; but did see an AMAZING Porchester, NY show at
the end of the spring tour.  This show really smoked.  Antelope w/ language
instructions (sick jams during this tune) and McGrupp were just two of the high
lights.  Anyway, looks like I'm gonna have wait a while before I can see the
guys play again; but in the meantime I'm psyched to here that Junta is being
re-released with bonus tracks.  Any idea as to what those tracks will be?  I
hope they don't screw around with tunes like they did on the Lawn Boy
re-release ("Lawn Boy" in particular).  Does anyone know what songs might be on
the new album?  They have enough unrecorded recent material to make that a
double album (all the new songs from spring tour including "Sparkle", "It's
Ice", "Brother" etc.).  Anyway, I've got to go be a responsible student now,
and do some work.  Welcome back to everybody and happy Phishin'.
			Matt Leaf
From: harpua@yvax.byu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: New Songs
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:46:16 -0700
Organization: Brigham Young University


In article <1992Sep14.013225.29825@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, "Rich Fromm - 'Whatever you do, take care of your shoes.'  13-Sep-1992 2135" <fromm@tecrus.enet.dec.com> writes:
> Shelly writes that All Things Reconsidered was first played on 3/6/92 at
> the Portsmouth Music Hall in Portsmouth, NH.
> 
> It was first played on 9/25/91 at the Colonial Theatre in Keane, NH.  I
> think they waited until Portsmouth to play it for a second time.
> 
>
yes, they did play it then.  They had also played Rift prior to the portsmouth
shows, but both are considered new.  The thing is that both songs were reworked
extensively, that is why some people label all things as "all things
reconsidered".  In it's new reincarnated self it is new.

HARPUA
From: saul+@pitt.edu (Alan B Saul)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: ESPs, Amiri Barka, etc.
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:16:11 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Sep11.025130.23590@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> mingus@cbnewsl.cb.att.com
 (Damballah Wedo) writes:
>> rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro):
>> According to the liner notes, Murray's first record under his own name
>> features Albert Ayler and Don Cherry! Now there's a record I'd like to
>> find some day...
>
>I don't have, and have never heard, this album, but I remember a

I don't have this either, but remember it from around 1970.
This along with other Aylers and Ras were some of the fine ESPs of that era.
I've been wondering if anybody knows what happened to the later ESP project
that started to release radio transcriptions of Bird, Bud, Lady, etc.
The ones with the Dennis Pohl art and colored vinyl etc. An far as I know,
only the first ones came out before ESP became universal.

>
>While we're talking about Baraka [he came up in reference to notes
on one of the ESPs from that era]
>, does anyone else believe like
>me that the man has nothing to say, has had nothing to say for some
>20 years, and says that nothing badly. I've read and am not
>impressed by his BLUES PEOPLE and <the other book he wrote in
                                        Black Music
>the early 60s, whgich I have, [...]
>I find him pompous and windy
>and not very perceptive as a critic. His essays on Coltrane are
>painfully obvious, and full of sociological bullshit.
>
Well, I would be inclined to disagree. I enjoy his writing alot, at least
his old stuff (I caught him at a reading in NYC about 8 years ago, he and
Ginsberg seemed to be getting pretty hokey) and loved Blues People and
Black Music. I always wished he'd have done more on music. Just my opinion.
I might note that I disagree with a lot of what he says, but that's cool.

>Lately, he seems to have redirected his attentions to Malcolm X,
>to the same silly effect. Now Malcolm as an historical figure
>ios crying out for critical exmination, especially since every two-bit
>nationalist claims to be the "sole" repository of Malcolm's
>wisdom (and does so by picking one sentence and excluding all
>others -- say the one in which he spoke of being moved by the
>piety of white Muslims at Mecca). But of *course* Baraka has
>bought into the silly mythologizing of Malcolm (also built around
>Martin Luther King) that makes serious study impossible,,,
>
>Off the soapbox now...
>--
>Marcel-Franck Simon                    mingus@usl.com, usl!mingus

OK, I wish people would pay as much attention to Booker Little as they
do to Malcolm Little, but Malcolm certainly deserves the attention,
and if you can't mythologize people what can you do with them (he
says rhetorically with slight humor)?
I hear you about people being silly, but I guess I don't mind, people
usually are silly when they talk more than a few words. QED.

Alan Saul

   


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From: austin@decisv.ucs.dec.com (Cathy Austin)
Subject: Jazz in the City Film Festival at The Castro
Reply-To: austin@decisv.ucs.dec.com (Cathy Austin)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 20:47:06 GMT

Saturday Oct 24
---------------

4pm, 7pm. The Cameraman. One of Buster Keaton's funniest features, this 1928 
silent classic about a love-smitten newsreel cameraman's attempts to impress
his girl will be shown in a newely restored 35mm print accompanied by Vince
Giordano's Nighthawks.  The Nighthawks, a 14-piece '20s stype jazz band from
New York, are one of the hottest traditional jazz bands in the country. $12

9pm. Last Date. The Bay Area Premiere of this Dutch documentary about the life
of iconoclastic saxophonist Eric Dolphy.  Includes historic footage with 
Charles Mingus (1992)

Sunday Oct 25
-------------
2pm. My Father's Music...Jazz.  The World Premiere of Bay Area filmaker Chann
Berry's documentary featuring Dizzy Gillespie, Ella Fitzgerald, Nancy Wilson,
Max Roach, Isaac Hayes, Chaka Khan and many others (1992)_

4pm. Texas Tenor.  Documentary on Illinois Jacquet, shown with famous 1944 short
Jammin' the Blues with Jazz masters Harry Edison, Lester Young, Jacquet, Red
Callender and Jo Jones.  "Two ofth emost visually ambitious movies ever made
about Jazz." - Village Voice.

6pm. Sweet Love, Bitter.  The West Coast Premiere of a remarkable film, virtually
lost for over 25 years and rediscovered in 1992.  One of the first films to deal
honestly with the bittersweet jazz life.  Based on the last years of Charlie
Parker.  Starring Dick Gregory with a grogeous score by Mal Waldron.  Directected
by Herberd Danska (1967)

8pm.  The Voice of Jazz.  From the Chertok Archives, a special program of rare
film of the greatest jazz singers: Billie Holiday, Sarah Vaughn, Frank Sinatra,
Nat Cole, Dinah Washington, Peggy Lee and many many others.  Includes Tony 
Bennett singing "I left My Heart in San Francisco" to Judy Garland.

All programs separate admission.  $7 except $12 for the Cameraman.  Advance
Tickets at BASS (510)762-2277 and City Box Office (415)392-4400.

The Castro is located at Castro and Market in San Francisco.  621-6120.
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: matt@volga.Berkeley.EDU (Matt Wright)
Subject: Re: Brass Bands and Leno
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:31:57 GMT

In article <BuDAzo.7FM@rice.edu> acp@owlnet.rice.edu (Adrian C Penisson) writes:
>	The Dirty Dozen...  Don't expect to see Kirk Joseph...
>  Last time I got to go home to Louisiana, I read that Joseph is now
>leading a trio in N.O.  Has anyone seen these guys? 

I saw Kirk Joseph in a small club in New Orleans called Snug Harbor, and he
was leading a 5 or 6 piece band.  It was during Ellis Marsalis' weekly spot;
Ellis wasn't there.

It seemed like it was a "pick-up" band; they were having a really good time
and playing common/easy tunes that not everybody knew and just sort of
jamming.  Joseph was amazing!

But I don't know anything about him leading a trio.

-Matt
From: ai.torosian@mcc.com (Dan Torosian)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Duke Robillard
Date: 11 Sep 1992 14:15:56 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

	From: tmcalice@perdido.webo.dg.com (Tim McAlice)
	
	After rummaging through the blues section of the Tower Records in
	Boston, I found the following CDs featuring Duke Robillard on guitar
	...
	...stuff deleted...
	
	And finally, there was one other disc at Tower, by Micky Honeycutt, a
	female blues singer, which featured Duke on only one track.  I didn't
	pick this one up, so I can't really comment on it.
	
	If anyone else knows of any discs which feature the guitar stylings of
	Duke Robillard, post the titles!

I think this is a disc called 'Soul Deep', with Sugar Ray and the
Bluetones as a rhythm section (I think Kid Bangham was playing guitar),
Ron Levy on keyboards, and yours truly on baritone sax (using the stage
name of Curtis Stone - don't ask).  It has its moments, but probably not
worth getting unless you're a Duke completist.  I'll check my copy to
see if we're talking about the same album, and to re-listen to Duke's
solo.  If it's mind-blowingly scorching, I'll let you know.

-Dan 'Not Curtis' Torosian
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: andrew@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Andrew Shields)
Subject: Re: Pat Metheny Tour Dates
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Distribution: tub
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:39:35 GMT


Does anybody know if / when Pat will be in Europe?

Thanks for info ...

Andrew Shields
Berlin

Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: austin@decisv.ucs.dec.com (Cathy Austin)
Subject: KZSU - 90.1 Stanford/Women in Jazz
Reply-To: austin@decisv.ucs.dec.com (Cathy Austin)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 23:15:58 GMT

For all ya'll in the Bay area, check out the "Serta Street Blues" program from
9-12 a.m. on Thursdays.  Some pretty progressive Jazz is played (a welcome 
relief).  This week we will be wrapping up a series featuring Geri Allen.  
The request line is 723-9010 if you have a special Geri tune you would like to 
hear.  We have most of her stuff except for "Home Grown" and "Live at the 
Village Vanguard" :-(

They're trying to do an informal Women in Jazz series.  Does anyone know of any
other women artists that have as much play as Geri and Marylin Crispell 
(> 5 recordings), slightly on the outside???  Cassandra Wilson comes to mind. 


-cat
From: gcf@spd.eee.strathclyde.ac.uk (Graham Freeland )
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Zorn, Naked City, etc.
Summary: Prices,Prices,Prices....
Date: 10 Sep 92 10:26:47 GMT
Organization: Signal Processing Division, University of Strathclyde. Glasgow
Originator: gcf@newton

In article <1992Sep10.035539.987@athena.mit.edu> eprice@sql.sybase.com writes:
>(I hope these ravings are not too incoherent...)
>
>Got "heretic, jeux des dames cruelles" (Avant 1) at the Downtown Music
>Gallery last weekend while visiting my brother in NYC.  Also picked up
>"Buried Secrets", the second Pain Killer album (Zorn/Laswell/Harris
>plus Justin Broadrick and G. C. Green on two of the tunes).  These two
>CDs along with a $4 used LP added up to $80!  Yikes!  Apparently,
>they've already sold 10 of the Naked City albums, so I guess I'm not
>the only one to come up with rationalizations for it!  I will try not
>to flinch when the time comes for Avant 2, 3, 4, and 5...
>

This is saved from being boring by its rarity value: CD's (even
Japanese imports) being cheaper in the U.K., $25 for "Buried Secrets"
and $26 for Avan-1!!!!!

(My preference is for "Guts of Virgin", though either way I would
have rather heard Ted Epstein's drumming, as with Slan, than Mr. 
Napalm Death's. In fact give me Zorn (German for `wraith' coincidently),
(ooh, that bass) Laswell, Epstein, Previte and E#: Rock`n'Roll!!)

Graham Freeland.
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