HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mike@raven.alaska.edu (Mike Kienenberger)
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.tv.infomercials
Organization: University of Alaska, Fairbanks
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:46:51 GMT

In article <1e3o0nINNaeq@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>
warlock@ecst.csuchico.edu (John Kennedy) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.161900.19250@raven.alaska.edu> Mike Kienenberger writes:
>
>-->  ...  If, after three days, there is a favorable response, I will be
>-->  issuing newgroups for these groups.  If, after three days, there is
>-->  no response, I will assume that there is no interest in these groups. ...
>
>  *A* favorable response?  (:  Sounds like another person to ignore because
>they newgroup things on the drop of a hat, alt.* or not.

I never thought I'd hear the day when I was accused of spuriously
creating new groups.  "Control freak" I've been called.  "Clueless" I've
been called.  Heck, Sean Ryan often uses the word "gestapo" when
speaking about me.  But I've never been accused of creating news groups
at the drop a hat.  Remember, "a favorable response" doesn't translate to
"a single positive posting or positive mail message."

=============================================================================
-Mike Kienenberger                       FXMLK@ALASKA           (BITNet)
 Academic Computing                      FXMLK@acad3.alaska.edu (Internet)
 News Administrator                      mike@raven.alaska.edu (also news@)
 University of Alaska-Fairbanks
 "I'm a computer programmer....<link><link><kludge><kludge> say-no-more!"
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: jef@netcom.com (Jef Poskanzer)
Subject: Re: The name "alt.m&k" contains an illegal character.
X-Face: uPIE),q]+zmF49L%(pdE;nX/8$/J22&&&C@_)8BouYx42Y--?*,\]*MIeTY#mCM(x>FyD@+0D-Jm]S_8lxop(Q-$L#~b8!ha;eF[b+GOLyu<]4$">NeVymJ@F#M?1O`ue4,h4`2S^KGjmP%no(d,:<Ur:+f6W8$J:'t9BxH
Reply-To: Jef Poskanzer <jef@netcom.com>
Organization: Paratheo-Anametamystikhood Of Eris Esoteric
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:14:20 GMT

bochner@das.harvard.edu (Harry Bochner):
}In article <1992Nov15.073958.5274@alf.uib.no>,
}magnus@bark-fddi.ii.uib.no (Magnus Alvestad) writes:
}|> >>>>> On Sun, 15 Nov 1992 04:52:16 GMT, twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) 
}said:
}|> 	Tim> You've already sent out three newgroups for this, all
}|> 	Tim> with different names.  I'm not inclined to create another
}|> 	Tim> one, no matter what the name.
}|> This is very typical of your responses - you show absolutely no
}|> intention of helping, aiding, guiding - you flame for flamage alone.
}
}Actually, I think Tim has been remarkably patient in dealing with this nonsense
}
}Here's a voice in support of his efforts to change the perception that alt is
}where any fool gets to mess with other sites' configurations.
}There's no way alt.magnus... is getting created on my system, under any name.

Agree 100%.  Sorry Magnus, you blew it and now you pay.  Try starting
from scratch with a different proposal.  Or don't.
---
Jef

           Jef Poskanzer  jef@netcom.com  jef@well.sf.ca.us
"I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls.  My skin is black
     upon me, and my bones are burned with heat." -- Job 30:29-30
From: ecunha@sumax.seattleu.edu (Erik Cunha)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re:    PROPOSAL: Alt.Spam
Summary: yes
Keywords: Spam, religion, altgroup
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:52:34 GMT
Organization: Seattle University

The Prime Spamainati wants EVERYONE  to see SpamLite.  Vote yes for SPAM,
and spit on the First Church of Jesus Christ, Computer Programmer.

-- The Prime Spamanati
  
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Time to Decide on the Name (was Newsgroup For Personality Typing Systems)
Followup-To: alt.config 
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff & Nonsense Division
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:16:25 GMT

I'm posting this message to each newsgroup Jon posted his proposal to,
and set followups back to alt.config, since the scattered nature of
the discussion before suggested that people weren't reading the
various suggestions in alt.config.  Sorry if it seems like I'm
stepping on your toes, Jon.

In article <1992Nov17.013024.11747@netcom.com> noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:

>alt.personality-types
>alt.personality.types
>alt.psychology.personality
>alt.psychology.personality.types

The first is an illegal name; the second component runs longer than 14
characters.  Furthermore, I strongly advise against creating a
".types" group under a "personality" hierarchy unless you expect there
to be demand for other groups dealing with personality study,
unrelated to Myers-Briggs or other personality testing schemes.  So,
bearing that in mind, I'll still push for alt.psychology.personality.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu / I use antlers in all of my decorating.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) / 
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: raghavan@wk28.nas.nasa.gov (Venkatraman Raghavan)
Subject: Re: alt.saturday.night.live
Organization: -
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 01:06:37 GMT

bedford@asterix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Darryl Bedford) writes:

>>From AGRANT@mta.ca:
>
>>        If it is possible could you please start a newsgroup for
>>me and could you call it Alt.Saturday.Night.Live
>
>>--Andrew

>Well, is there demand for a.s.n.l.?
>
>DB

Good idea, lousy name. 

The acronym SNL is very much used by the fans of Saturday Night Live,
so it *HAS TO BE* alt.tv.snl !!!

But, thanks for bringing it up. Let's have the newsgroup. There is
a lot of 'Deep Thoughts by Jack Hendy' floating around in rec.humor
looking for a good home. :-)

VR
From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: rmgroup alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:09:52 GMT
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

jp@tygra.Michigan.COM (John Palmer) writes:

> Fuck you -

Well spoken, John.

> I'm working on a Becker-Be-Gone script which will rmgroup
> any addgroup that he sends.
      ^^^^^^^^
BTW, what the hell is an addgroup?

At least, you're reasonably well assured of success.  To date, I have
never seen an "addgroup" issued by Bruce Becker.
--
Roy M. Silvernail --  roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu - OR-  cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu
           "I used to be disgusted, but now I'm just amused."
                                  -- from an old T-shirt
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Furr)
Subject: Re: alt.pugwash, concerned people?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 07:39:21 GMT

In article <LANCER.92Nov17190703@joseph.WPI.EDU> lancer@joseph.WPI.EDU (Stephe Lewis Foskett) writes:
>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Nov 92 10:55:59 GMT, jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Furr) said:
>jfurr> We all shouted "NAME IT ALT.ORG.PUGWASH" and you didn't listen.
>
>Actually, I was the one who didn't listen.  But I don't remember
>anyone suggesting alt.org.pugwash.  I DO remember sci.pugwash and
>rec.pugwash being suggested, though...
>
>Anyway, where do we go from here?  A call for votes?
>

Except in extra-ordinary circumstances (alt.oobe ring any bells?) you
don't have voting to create alt. groups.  Instead you say "Hello, hello? 
Any news administrators out there want to create a group for me?"

Then you say "Here is the proposed charter for alt.org.pugwash: blah blah
blah.  Here is a one-line description of the group for your files."  The
charter may not control what people say there, but if well-worded, it may
convinced some news admins to carry the group.
From: flowerpt@coos.dartmouth.edu (Bill McGonigle)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: alt.tv.snl (was Re: alt.saturday.night.live)
Date: 17 Nov 92 08:52:24 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <BxtEDH.6r9@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleenus Schwartz Davis) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.134129.7569@julian.uwo.ca> bedford@asterix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Darryl Bedford) writes:
>>
>>>From AGRANT@mta.ca:
>>
>>>        If it is possible could you please start a newsgroup for
>>>me and could you call it Alt.Saturday.Night.Live
>>
>>Well, is there demand for a.s.n.l.?

Yes!  Go for it.  I was thinking the same thing.
>
>If there were, how about naming it alt.tv.snl?  

This is the better of the two names.  Everyone that watches it knows it's
called SNL, and we don't want to imply a hierarchy. 
>
>For the record, this is not a vote of support (I would not be reading
>it), just a suggestion.
>
Oh, but this *is*!

Now is the time on Sprockets when we create a new group.

-Bill

-- 
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Snail Mail: HB 2660, Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, 03755-4015. (603) 640-5780
From: dittman@skitzo.dseg.ti.com (Eric Dittman)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: I was a teenage alt.fan.omar reader
Date: 15 Nov 92 13:22:08 CDT
Followup-To: alt.config
Organization: Texas Instruments Component Test Facility


In article <1992Nov14.190921.13615@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth L. Blumberg) writes:
> However, from the response I received by email following that posting, and
> from the many positive followups that appeared in alt.folklore.college, it is
> clear that alt.fan.omar is a newsgroup whose time has come.  If alt.fan.omar
> were newgrouped, I would subscribe to it (albeit reluctantly).

I really don't think there's enough traffic about Omar to warrant a
new newsgroup.  If the newgroup message were send out, I'd probably
alias it to alt.folklore.college.  I've read the Omar posts, and
they really do belong in a.f.college (well, one of them I saw would
be equally at home in a.f.computers).
-- 
Eric Dittman                  Texas Instruments - Component Test Facility
dittman@skitzo.dseg.ti.com    (214) 578-3575
Disclaimer:  Not even my opinions.  I found them by the side of the road.
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.activism.d,talk.environment
From: cls@truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: CFD: alt.politics.green-party
Organization: Save the Humans!
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 23:05:23 GMT
Summary:  10 values, one is "ecological wisdom"

In article <4007@randvax.rand.org> jim@rand.org (Jim Gillogly) writes:
>>In article <Jym.15Nov1992.0056@naughty-peahen> Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu> writes:
>>>=+= I recommend that we create an alt.politics.green-party

Good idea.

>That said, I don't see the need for distinction between *.green and
>*.green-party, since the point of the Green Party is environmental
>political activism (isn't it?).
>-- 
>	Jim Gillogly

This is the perception you'd get from the commercial media, if you
found the Green Parties mentioned at all.  The Green Party of California
and the US Greens share ten "key values," against which we weigh
proposals, and only one is "ecological wisdom."  The others are:

respect for diversity
personal and global responsibility
nonviolence
postpatriarchal values (feminism)
grassroots democracy
decentralization
community-based economics
future focus
social justice.

The best, perhaps the *only*, way to find out what the Green Party is
about is to go to your local meeting.  Experience formal decisionmaking
by consensus.  Nothing less deserves the label "democracy."

Cameron, cls@truffula.sj.ca.us
From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Distribution: world
Organization:  One of these days for sure
X-News: HERMES MMAIL 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.fan.fantasy.writers
	<Nov16.154400.48322@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
	<JAAPJL.92Nov17173132@cmb00.larc.nasa.gov>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:45:14 -0800

In <JAAPJL.92Nov17173132@cmb00.larc.nasa.gov> jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov
	(J Lee Jaap) writes:
	
>In article <Nov16.154400.48322@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
	randal@pylon.physics.colostate.edu (randal rheinheimer) writes:

>   There is a relatively large readership that distinguishes strongly between  
>   fantasy and sf.

>Yup.  Fantasy is a subset of SF, as is science fiction.

	But they are both subsets of manga.


-- 
                    John Henders              " Read the guideline, Luke"
           Just another elitist Usenet user        Obi Wan Spaf
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Saturday, 21 Nov 1992 16:45:05 EST
From: <IO20650@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: alt.horror.spam?
 <92323.161245IO20902@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
 <1992Nov19.193845.4807@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
 <1992Nov21.054259.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>

In article <1992Nov21.054259.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>,
rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu says:
>
>I agree:  alt.horror.spam.
>
>How about alt.fan.monty-python.spam?
>
A) alt.religion.spam fits better.  This was suggested by the church of Spam,
   and much of the support has come from there, and Spam sects of others.
B) alt.fan.monty-python.spam is one of the worst suggestions that keeps getting
   repeated!  The group is supposed to have NOTHING to do with Monty Python!
----------------------- io20650@maine.maine.edu ---------------------
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From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: alt.tv.snl (was Re: alt.saturday.night.live)
Date: 18 Nov 1992 05:58:15 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Jesper Lauridsen (rorschak@daimi.aau.dk) wrote:
: Any reason to make the group worldwide?

So when we videofax it to you you will be prepared.


  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 GLOB

Newsgroups: alt.config
From: rlinnema@jarthur.claremont.edu (Russ **Crow T Robot** Linnemann)
Subject: Create alt.tv.chips
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:45:01 GMT


I think an alt.tv.chips group would be a great idea.  After all, there 
aren't that many other people in Claremont who I can mention
CHiPs around without getting badly flamed.  A new group would be perfect
for these discussions.  I'm all for it.
--Russ--
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 08:32:43 MST
From: gritton@alaska.et.byu.edu (Jamie Gritton)
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: rmgroup alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Reply-To: gritton@byu.edu
	<1992Nov17.074609.19876JPII@tygra.Michigan.COM>

jp@tygra.Michigan.COM (Mr. Friendly) writes:

> Fuck you - I'm working on a Becker-Be-Gone script which will rmgroup
> any addgroup that he sends.

Now *that* sounds useful. Maybe you two can arrange a feed between
yourselves so we won't have to wait too many minutes between
newgroup/rmgroup messages. I can see it now... 150,000 new articles
in control every day.
--
James Gritton - gritton@byu.edu - I disclaim
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: tmiller@nyx.cs.du.edu (Thomas Christian Miller)
Subject: CREATE alt.tv.chips!
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 06:26:51 GMT

Someone please, CREATE alt.tv.chips!!!

No, I'm really serious.  Across the nation and especially in the LA area,
everyone's favorite disco patrol is popping up everywhere on every station.
It's not uncommon to find seven, ten, even fifteen showings a week on
various local, national, and cable networks.  Evidently, those taken aback
by and/or enamored with PC '90's culture have found some nostalgia for the
'80's where smiling buxom women offered intrigue to the knights of the highway
who rode their mighty patrol bicycles through the nation's bloodstream.
The hot California wind tugged at their hair, held securely under their
helmets, as they moved down the road in search of new adventure.  Oddly
enough, it was usually adventure that found our two brave heroes.  Whether
this adventure came in the form of a toxic spill across the highway, a sleazy
chop shop, or a night out on the town to deliver babies in a discotheque
(not to mention other early '80's fads such as ultralights, daily-commute
drag races, and new-age self-help philosophy), the officers would never turn
down a damsel in distress (especially a blonde, well-endowed one)

So what DO y'all say? Anybody ready to create this group?

-*-
Tom Miller        "Sheep on Drugs?"
15514A>>>
-*-


Newsgroups: alt.config
From: nadeau@bcarh1ab.bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau)
Subject: Re: CFD: alt.politics.green-party
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:01:13 GMT

In article <15NOV199219391493@acad3.alaska.edu> sean@freds.cojones.com writes:
>
>Technically, the American Green Party is a separate entity from their
>European counterparts, though modeled after it.  I would suggest
>alt.politics.usa.party.green and alt.politics.europe.party.green. 
>This would allow for full-fledged party-based sub-hierarchies to
>develop (I was working on such a proposal, but my obligations to the
>real world have kept me from dealing with it).

Do you recognize that the "American Green Party" has some things in
common with the various Green Parties elsewhere?  If so, wouldn't it
make sense to have a group to discuss common ground (and yes,
differences too) between various manifestations of the Green Party?  The
proposed group meets this need.

Anyway, since the Green Party believes in regionalism, I suspect you'll
find just as many differences between the various Green Parties in the
US as between the "American Green Party" and its "European
counterparts".  Note also that your suggestion would leave out the
Canadian Green Party, while the original proposal would include it.  So,
why not create a general group before we start creating regional
versions?  (Or must we address US requirements first, the rest of the
world later?)

The Rhealist - Rheal Nadeau - nadeau@bnr.ca - Speaking only for myself
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: ALT.PSYCHOTRONIC
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 03:36:02 GMT
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team

mpitche5@mach1.wlu.ca (mark pitcher 9208 U) writes:

> ALT.PSYCHOTRONIC will not fit into alt.cult-movies because a.c-m deals
> with individual films, while psychotronic itself is a genre of its own. 

"Psychotronic" isn't a "genre", it's a catchphrase that Michael Weldon
coined to bring the discussion of all kinds of bad, weird, and obscure
movies under one roof.  There is plenty of room for discussing psychotronic
film on alt.cult-movies . . . we do it all the time, and have done since
the group was created.  What exactly is it that you don't think you can
properly discuss there?

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
From: mcmurtrey@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: ALT.FAN.FANTASY
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:40:01 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1e6lgiINNmi@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, sauron@ascoli.WPI.EDU (Amy Rich) writes:
> 
> 
> Well, there has been a lot of discussion in several alt.fan groups
> devoted to specific writers that a group should be made to discuss
> ANY FANTASY WRITER, instead of having to talk about authors without
> their own groups in groups devoted to OTHER authors.  This seems to be
> a logical idea, so im proposing that a group alt.fan.fantasy be
> created.
> 
> 
> 
> 						--AR
> 
> 



I agree.  I admit that I read a fair amount of Sci-fi but I don't find it as
interesting to converse about.....


Diana`
 
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Newgroups have made it out
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff & Nonsense Division
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 08:10:51 GMT

In article <15NOV199219441969@acad3.alaska.edu> sean@freds.cojones.com writes:

>No thanks to Mr. Kienenberger.  Mike, maybe one of these days you'll
>be lucky enough to get a clue.  For your sake, I sure hope so.

Who are you to say?  His vision of alt is no less valid than yours,
and appears to be the more sensible attitude.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu / I use antlers in all of my decorating.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) / 
Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.pets.dogs
From: mbur@nyx.cs.du.edu (MAC)
Subject: Re: alt.pugwash, concerned people?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:31:01 GMT

In article <LANCER.92Nov17190703@joseph.WPI.EDU> lancer@joseph.WPI.EDU (Stephe Lewis Foskett) writes:
>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Nov 92 10:55:59 GMT, jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Furr) said:
>jfurr> We all shouted "NAME IT ALT.ORG.PUGWASH" and you didn't listen.
>
>Actually, I was the one who didn't listen.  But I don't remember
>anyone suggesting alt.org.pugwash.  I DO remember sci.pugwash and
>rec.pugwash being suggested, though...
>
>Anyway, where do we go from here?  A call for votes?
>


Well, have you washed your pug today?  We can not begin discussion until
you do.

Hope this helps.

Ta-ta for now,
M
From: jabutt@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU (joe a butt)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: CFD: Newsgroup For Personality Typing Systems (e.g. Myers-Briggs)
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:46:25 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


--
Joe Butt
School Psychologist
Tennessee School for the Deaf
@Oak Ridge Educational Network 
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Furr)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: moving alt.vampyres -> alt.horror.vampyres
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 21:57:40 GMT

In article <Bxv8zJ.MqA@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>Recently alt.horror.werewolves was created in response to the demand
>for a werewolves newsgroup, since alt.vampyres was seeing a fair
>amount of werewolf traffic.  Although alt.werewolves was the original
>suggestion, alt.horror.werewolves won out as a more appropriate name
>for the group topic.
>
>Bearing that in mind, I propose moving alt.vampyres to
>alt.horror.vampyres, for the sake of organization.  If the support for
>this idea outweighs the opposition, I will newgroup
>alt.horror.vampyres and rmgroup alt.vampyres shortly thereafter, but
>I'll wait a few days for the responses to come in.  I'd appreciate
>hearing from anyone with an opinion on the topic.
>
>Followups are directed to alt.config.

Tim, I agree that it's a more appropriate name, but alt.vampyres won't go
away just because you make alt.horror.vampyres.  Next thing you know,
we'll have people saying "Stop aliasing alt.vampyres to
alt.horror.vampyres!  The two groups have entirely different readerships
and you're screwing us up!"

You're the news admin.  Is it worth the hassle to have pure namespace now
that alt.vampyres is fairly well established?