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From: chris@luchs (Christian Forst)
Subject: Re: Upgrade to Rev J
Organization: Inst.of Theor.Chemistry,Univ.of Vienna,Austria
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:15:13 GMT

sweet@ug.cs.dal.ca (garth r sweet) writes:
: + Q: How do I get help on my HP?   A: Post questions. We don't bite. *SMILE*  

Read the manuals, read the FAQ, play around with you calculator, read the
manuals again, read again the FAQ, THEN post your question, but who cares
;*>

	Christian
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From: mengwong@pobox.upenn.edu (Meng Weng Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Power Set program in User RPL
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:18:15 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Problem: write the shortest program to generate a power set, given a set.

Definition: A power set is the set of all possible combinations of the
	input set.

Example: { 1 2 3 } POWER will result in
	{ { }
	  { 1 }
	  { 2 }
	  { 3 }
	  { 1 2 }
	  { 1 3 }
	  { 2 3 }
	  { 1 2 3 }
	}

	Since in set theory, an element is unique, I don't wnat to see
	anything like { 2 2 } popping up.  The null element must appear.

Note:	Order doesn't matter.  { 3 2 1 } is just as good as { 1 2 3 }.

Extra Credit: Write the program recursively.

Please email me your solutions, and I will post the best few.


-- 
Cyberpunk: "These are all hot young verbal pilots who think nothing of
    taking forty-thousand tons of screaming heavy metal prose and throwing
    it straight at the ground in a forced power dive shedding sparks and
    literary chaos only to pull up at the last possible instant shy of
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: rneumann@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Ralf Neumann)
Subject: Re: wow!!!(new software from overseas)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 10:58:15 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Technische Fakultaet.

In article <MHEISKAN.93Jan9150319@lk-hp-7.hut.fi>, mheiskan@hut.fi (Mika Heiskanen) writes:
|> 
|>   /hp48/Uploads/.:
|>   FRANCE/               =  
|>   Kanji_Mentor.doc  17974  
|>   Kanji_Mentor_1.0 207501  
|>   QED109.lzh        35341  
|>   RPL.register.usage  964  
|>   SounderKit.Z       6364  
|>   csim261           78500  
|>   entries.tar.Z    297851  
|>   sch48.v1.2.doc    23541  
|>   smm2.6.lib.txt    17354  
|>   test                 33  
|>   toe.doc           17450  
|> 
|>   /hp48/Uploads/FRANCE/DOCS/.:
|>   Tron2.doc          5841  
|>   readme.05.01.93     698  

...

Uh ? Where did these files go ??? I`ve just been to seq.uncwil.edu

hp48/Uploads and there are non of the FRANCE-Dirs... :-(

Ralf.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: aschoorl@engr.UVic.CA (Andre  Schoorl)
Subject: How to start programming HP Machine Language?
Reply-To: aschoorl@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 22:18:02 GMT

I am currently developing a NetTrek-like game for the HP48.

However, even with my optimized RPL routines, it is becoming too slow even without
the computer ship playing.

So, can anybody tell me how to get started at programming in HP Machine Language?
I recently purchased my 48SX and would love to access the full power of the
machine.

Hopefully somebody can give me a good response; i.e. not just telling me to read
some file on seq.uncwil.edu

Thanks.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Andre Schoorl				Computer Engineering Student
aschoorl@engr.uvic.ca			University of Victoria, Canada.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: twh18@isuvax.iastate.edu (Phoenix)
Subject: Re: tasc v3beta: ->ASC / ASC->
Reply-To: twh18@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:48:13 GMT

	Sorry to ask this, but how do  I install this program into
the PC or like on my VMS/VAX or unix account?
	Thanks!
				Ming
From: akcs.levenson@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (william j. levenson)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: CK1NOLASTWD vs CK1NoBlame ???
Message-ID: <2b49e1a3.2561.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

Dan...

Do you have the RPLMAN which comes with the RPLTOOLS published by HP? 
The explaination appears on page 62.  CK1NoBlame is two commands
combined:
     :: OLASTOWDOB! CK1NOLASTWD ;
This clears the command name that is used by the system error handler and
then does the Ck1NOLASTWD which checks  that one arguement is present but
does not record a command name for error handling.  For more details, see
RPLMAN.

I hope this helps

Bill Levenson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: boynton@fys.ruu.nl (Chris Boynton)
Subject: todo list was:Re: hp48's appt prog
Organization: Physics Department, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 08:49:04 GMT

If you want a to-do list manager without all the appointment alarms and other
time related stuff take a look at TODO on HORN7 in the utils directory. It 
works well. If you have ftp access, you'll find todo at seq.uncwil.edu as
hp48/EduCalc/horn7/utils/todo and hp48/EduCalc/horn7/utils/todo.doc (if I 
remember correctly).

chris
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NL - 3508  TA UTRECHT                   email: boynton@fys.ruu.nl
 
From: akcs.mmorgan@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Captain Morgan)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:40:02 GMT
Subject: ASC v. UUENCODE
Message-ID: <2b4f1f55.2608comp.sys.hp48@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

I prefer ASC.  If the file gets corrupted, ASC always seems to be able to
tell.  UUDECODE, ton the other hand, has created binaries that hav e
caused me problems like memorey loss.

Also, I think programs at seq.uncwil.edu should be posted in ASC form
because it allows students who use modems to get to their VAX/VMS systems
to circumvent all the problems associated with transferring binaries via
the vax.  I don't know if the problem is only on our vax or others too
but our vax always corrupts hp binaries as well as PC executables.  This
is a pain in the rear when you're trying to download to your PC at home
via modem.  The problem is circumvented by going straight to our unix
computers and then to disk via PC-NFS, but that doesn't allow us to
transfer files when we are at home.

The long and the short of it is that I think ASC is the best way to get
HP48 binaries without corruption.  What do you all think?

Mike Morgan
M00012@KANGA.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: hpclub@ee.ualberta.ca (HP Club acct)
Subject: Re: Ver J
Keywords: J 
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:09:06 GMT

mzundel@vx9000.weber.edu (Matthew Zundel) writes:

>     I just got a new HP48SX on Jan 4,1993.  I want to know weather it is the
>new version ie. J.  How do I test it to find out?

It is very easy.  Type ON-D together then press backspace and then EVAL.
Press ON-C when you are done.

Roland Davis

-- 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: mheiskan@hut.fi (Mika Heiskanen)
Subject: Re: wow!!!(new software from overseas)
Reply-To: mheiskan@vipunen.hut.fi
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
	<MHEISKAN.93Jan9150319@lk-hp-7.hut.fi>
	<C0ort4.5uC@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de>
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:00:25 GMT


In article <C0ort4.5uC@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> rneumann@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Ralf Neumann) writes:

[..]
>|>   /hp48/Uploads/FRANCE/DOCS/.:
>|>   Tron2.doc          5841  
>|>   readme.05.01.93     698  

>....

>Uh ? Where did these files go ??? I`ve just been to seq.uncwil.edu
>hp48/Uploads and there are non of the FRANCE-Dirs... :-(

Look again.


--
--> mheiskan@vipunen.hut.fi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: twh18@isuvax.iastate.edu (Phoenix)
Subject: vector root finder, etc
Reply-To: twh18@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:10:06 GMT

	Hi, I was looking a standard trig book yesterday, and some a
problem like "take the cube root of (-1, SQRT 3).  I tried to type
it in, then discoverd that I cannot put the SQRT in there no matter
which mode I use(vector or complex, () or []).  The only way I can
get a put the SQRT sign in the vector is enter it as (-1, 3), then
edit it.  Does anyone know any way to enter SQRT 3 directly in there?
	Also, I don't think the HP48 is going to give me 3 nice
roots for a vector if I just try to do it as it was a #.  Does anyone
know if the proot in seq.uncwil does the root for vector too?  If not,
did anyone wrote a program for it?
	Thank you!
				Ming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: cthomas@athena.mit.edu (Michael T Ford)
Subject: Re: Equation/library/ee cards
Keywords: which one is overall the best
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:50:27 GMT

In article <2b4c9b0a.2226.4comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com> akcs.dmankin@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (David Mankin) writes:
>Also the Equation Library card comes with (from what I have heard) a
>REALLY NEAT version of Tetris!!

It does????   When I got my EqLib card, the only game on it was MineHunt.

Mike
cthomas@athena.mit.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: cthomas@athena.mit.edu (Michael T Ford)
Subject: Re: TDS 512K Card
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 09:49:42 GMT

In article <2b4e6722.2602.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com> akcs.ejf@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Ed Fasula) writes:
>Speakin of the 512k card does anyone have this problem:  Sometimes (like
>when I got my card back after service by TDS) the HP proclaims INVALID
>CARD DATA.  It's happened so much it's like seeing an old friend. 
>Anyhode usually this is solved by BS'ing through all four banks merging,
>then freeing each one. WHY!?!?.
>
Not sure why unless the card isn't aligned properly.  Mine does that too.
If you don't want to lose the data, you can:
1.  Turn the calculator off
2.  Take the card out 
3.  Put it back in
4.  Turn the calculator on again
5.  If it doesn't work, go back to step #1
Of course--that's only if you don't want to lose the data (or can't afford to).

Mike WZ0C


From: akcs.wiley@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Paul Abbott)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:40:02 GMT
Subject: Seattle BBS closed 1/13-1/25/92 for repa
Message-ID: <2b520e9e.2634comp.sys.hp48@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Keywords: seattle bbs

The R.P.N. BBS in Seattle, WA will be closed from Wed. 1/13 and will
reopen 1/25/93 (not '92 as the header says!). I need this time to:
1) Load the BBS software on my new computer
2) Get it to work right under OS/2
3) INSTALL THE NEW 14.4K MODEM!
4) Do other minor housework on the BBS
5) Add some files to the BBS from FTP and other sites
Also, if you haven't called within three months, your account will be
deleted before the reopening date. E-mail rpnbbs@u.washington.edu for
more info.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: civan@seanews.akita.com (Chuck Dinsmore)
Subject: PUGET SOUND CHAPTER-HP USERS MEETING
Reply-To: civan@seanews.akita.com
Organization: SEANEWS - Seattle Public Access News + Mail
Distribution: pnw
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 09:45:40 GMT



             -------------------------------------------------
                   P U G E T   S O U N D   C H A P T E R
               H P   H A N D H E L D   U S E R S   G R O U P
             -------------------------------------------------

                           HP-48SX/HP-95LX   

              CHAPTER COORDINATOR---Bob Moore (206) 364-9636
           ASSOCIATE COORDINATOR---Chuck Dinsmore (206) 932-8370

The next PUGET SOUND CHAPTER-HP USERS GROUP Chapter meeting will be held

Wednesday January 13, 1993 at 7:00 P.M. There is always Interesting
discussion about HP products, calculators and computers. We include
discussions on both hardware and software. Products of other
manufacturers are reviewed. We have contact with people at HP and most
of the other HP fanatics around the world. We began our existence back
with the HP-65 calculator and were a branch of the original PPC.
We here the latest "rumors" of HP future products (nothing from the
horses mouth), and sometimes HP folks come to our meetings to talk about
the latest releases. Anyone interested in HP stuff are welcome to attend
our meetings.

                       The meetings are held at:
           THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON ACADEMIC COMPUTER CENTER
                             3737 Brooklyn
                              Seattle, Wa.

We also moderate the HP USERS CONFERENCE on a local BBS. This BBS also
has
an HP file directory that contains many HP-48SX programs and HP-95LX
programs that can be downloaded. Interested users are welcome to upload
their HP programs for others to use. They may be public domain or
shareware. comp.sys.handhelds,  comp.sys.palmtops, and comp.sys.hp48
Usenet newsgroup message are collected periodically and placed in the HP
files directory to be downloaded for those who are interested. They are
in a zipped format so have PKZIP110.EXE to unzip them after downloading.


              Download
              -                Upload
                               -                 Programs
                                                 -
                     SCIENCE FACTOR BBS  ( A PCBoard )
                     Sysop Bruce N. Baker
                     Node 1------------(206) 562-7083
                     Node 2------------(206) 644-4569
                     Node 3------------(206) 747-5329

See you there:
 civan@seanews.akita.com (Chuck Dinsmore) 

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civan@seanews.akita.com
From: rwed@gnu.ai.mit.edu (N7YVM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Can a HP48 do this?
Date: 10 Jan 1993 04:43:44 GMT
Organization: Free Software Foundation
NNTP-Posting-Host: spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu


Hello hp48ers!

Im wondering if it is within the realm of possibility that an HP48s could
preform as a simple text editor of sorts. Nothing fancy, just keep a
block of text in memory that would be editable. The editor functions
would be akin to the most simple of full screen editors for PC's. Insert
delete, write over, move the cursor around. 

Would a HP48s be able to do this? If so would 1 char be stored as 1 byte,
and also could the text be encrypted and decrypted using a simple cipher
algorithm.  That would require individual addressing of each letter
as a number (for example ASCII)

-- 
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rwed@gnu.ai.mit.edu      
N7YVM                        
and some other stuff
From: cj531@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ali Momeni)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: HP 48 LX ?!?!
Date: 9 Jan 1993 23:12:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


...uh...WHAT IS IT????

ali.   momeni@vu-vlsi.ee.vill.edu

From: akcs.ejf@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Ed Fasula)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:40:02 GMT
Subject: Sorting With SmartROM
Message-ID: <2b4b6839.2576comp.sys.hp48@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

I want to sort a stack of lists by the first object.  How does one do
this with SmartROM?  I looked into the hidden commands and there was
refrence to sortn, sortIDONTREMEMBER, anyway only sortany and sort
show-up in the index.  Where are these other commands and what do they
do.  I also got a whole bunch of programs with SmartROM (on disk) and I
don't know what 90% of them do.  This package is confusing!  

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: mengwong@world.std.com (Meng W Wong)
Subject: Re: HELP: problems with inputting matrix
Summary: Use GO buttons
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 16:20:14 GMT

In article <suwanto.726657509@vincent1.iastate.edu> suwanto@iastate.edu (zapper) writes:
>In a matrix environment, I used to be able to enter 3 items (Columns) in one
>row by just separating them with space.  But now, everytime I did that,
>it only took the last item, and ate up the first two items.
>
>suwanto@iastate.edu

You have to switch on one of the GO buttons in the MatrixWriter environment.

Anybody know how the status of these buttons is controlled?  I don't think
it's by system flags.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: ervin@pinbot.enet.dec.com (Joseph James Ervin)
Subject: Re: How to start programming HP Machine Language?
Reply-To: ervin@pinbot.enet.dec.com (Joseph James Ervin)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 12:25:48 GMT


In article <1993Jan4.221802.346@sol.UVic.CA>, aschoorl@engr.UVic.CA (Andre  Schoorl) writes:

|>
|>I am currently developing a NetTrek-like game for the HP48.
|>
|>However, even with my optimized RPL routines, it is becoming too slow even without
|>the computer ship playing.
|>
|>So, can anybody tell me how to get started at programming in HP Machine Language?
|>I recently purchased my 48SX and would love to access the full power of the
|>machine.
|>
|>Hopefully somebody can give me a good response; i.e. not just telling me to read
|>some file on seq.uncwil.edu
|>
|>Thanks.
|>
|>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|>Andre Schoorl				Computer Engineering Student
|>aschoorl@engr.uvic.ca			University of Victoria, Canada.
|>
|>


How familiar are you with machine language programming?  HP has an assembler/linker and a set of system-rpl development tools
that you can get for free that runs on an MS-DOS machine. 

Personally, I started ML programming on the HP48 before HP made these tools
available, so I started out using the Star assembler by Jan Brittenson.  
Personally, I favor the Star assembler over the HP assembler for its use
of the alternate mnemonic set (courtesy of Alonzo Gariepy) and for its
powerful macro language.  There are things that you can do in Star that 
you just can't do in HP's assembler.

I have developed a fair amount of ML code for the HP48, including a game
called "Vaders", which is essentially a space invaders clone, and some
interesting sound development/playing code.  In the 
process of doing these things, I have developed a multitasking, multiprocess 
programming environment for the HP48.  Now that I have that done, I'm very
reluctant to change assemblers.

You should note that HP provides _no_ support for their tools.  They are
provided to us strictly out of the goodness of their hearts.

>>>Joe Ervin 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: twh18@isuvax.iastate.edu (Phoenix)
Subject: HP48's constants
Reply-To: twh18@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:11:54 GMT

	Just wondering if HP48 has any constants other than Pi and e, something
like physics/chem constatns would be very helpful.  I searched the index of
the book and every menu on my hp, but couldn't find any.
	Also, how do you got HP48 to solve system equations sybolically?
	Thanks in advance!
			Ming
From: devil@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (The Dark Lord)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: HP 48S calculator for sale
Date: 8 Jan 93 05:28:44 GMT
Reply-To: devil@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (The Dark Lord)
Distribution: austin
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: devil@louie.cc.utexas.edu

I have a HP 48S for sale. Asking price is
$130. It is in excellent condition and almost
brand new.

Reply by e-mail please.
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: mzundel@vx9000.weber.edu (Matthew Zundel)
Subject: Ver J
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: J 
Organization: Weber State University CS Department
Date:  5 Jan 1993 21:40 MST  

     I just got a new HP48SX on Jan 4,1993.  I want to know weather it is the
new version ie. J.  How do I test it to find out?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: kevin.jessup <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: ** Milwaukee HP48 BBS **
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:15:23 GMT


This file has been posted before but I periodically repost (about once
every four months) it so those new to the HP48 and/or the net are aware 
of this source of HP48 files and information.


   ************************************************************
   *                                                          *
   *                The Milwaukee HP48 BBS                    *
   *                                                          *
   ************************************************************


Phone number:        (414) 362-2020
Modem baud rates:    9600 (V.32), 4800 (V.32), 2400 (V.22bis),
                     1200 (Bell 212A), 300 (Bell 103)
Modem error protos:  LAP-M (V.42), MNP level 1-4
Modem compression:   V.42bis, MNP level 5
Data bits:           8
Stop bits:           1
Parity:              none
Transfer protocols:  KERMIT, Xmodem, Ymodem, Zmodem, MPt (Puma)
Hours of operation:  From 12 noon Saturday, through Sunday to
                     7AM Monday.  Usually up from 6PM to
                     7AM on weekdays.  All times are CST/CDT.


This BBS will be on-line during the week from 6PM to 7AM CST if I
don't need the PC for other purposes.  Otherwise, IT WILL BE UP ON
THE WEEKENDS.  All of the EduCalc Goodies disks are available for
download.  If you don't want the entire disk, there is an extensive
HP48 file collection arranged by subject.  Here are the file areas...


 1 - HP48 EduCalc Goodies Disks      11 - HP48 Financial Applications
 2 - HP48 Utilities                  12 - HP48 Games
 3 - HP48 Programming                13 - HP48 Graphic Objects (GROBS)
 4 - HP48 Animations                 14 - HP48 Informational text files
 5 - HP48 Astronomy                  15 - HP48 Mathematics
 6 - HP48 Calendars/Clocks/Time      16 - HP48 Music
 7 - HP48 Chip48 and SuperChip Games 17 - Flight/Aviation/Navigation
 8 - HP48 DataBase Applications      18 - Miscellaneous Programs
 9 - HP48 Electrical Engineering     19 - HP28 Programs
10 - HP48 Engineering Applications   20 - Radio Scanners


Sorry, no HP95LX files at this time. :-(  I don't have a 95.  :-(((
Anybody want to donate one so I have incentive to acquire some files?? ;-)

Most of the files have been compressed using PKZIP for faster
downloads.  Give us a call.  The BBS is free and you get
two (Count 'em!) hours of access per day.

This is still my office voice-line from 7AM to 6PM CST.
Please, please, please do not call with a modem then!!!

-- 
Kevin Jessup, kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com

        "Friends don't let friends run DOS."
                          -- Microware
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48