From: chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney)
Subject: Re: The Nurturing Network 1-800-TNN-4MOM
Organization: California State University: Sacramento
Distribution: world  
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 20:32:16 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.224500.25686@noao.edu> forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:
>From article <92215.152601ADMN8647@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>, by Linda Birmingham <ADMN8647@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>:
>> 
>> While the majority of the quotes are Canadian, I am
>> sure Ms. Forgach if you did a little reading on the
>> topic you will find that feminist organizations
>> around the world have been lobbying and funding
>> such initiatives as you described above.  
>
>No, Linda.  They've been talking the talk, but they haven't been
>walking the walk.   Walk into ANY, and I mean ANY abortion alternative
>organization ANYWHERE, and you will not find even one pro-"choicer" among
>them.  It always has been and always will be the pro-lifers who provide any
>non-abortive help to pregnant women in trouble.

I beg to differ. The Nurturing Network, run by Mary Cunningham ??? (I
forgot her last name), which supplied a diligent and accomodating
program to help women with crisis pregnancies (and which is dominated
vastly by female workers), according to several sources, included
pro-choice people. 

Since she's gotten directly involved in pro-life rallies and such,
since then, I'm not sure if there are any left in TNN anymore. 
IMHO, she should have kept herself distanced from the Pro-Life
Movement. She was doing extremely well for pro-lifers already, as TNN
was dominated by them, and she had Kate Michelman living on the Fringe
because the NARAL wouldn't touch TNN with a ten foot pole and TNN had
the centrist image of having pro-choice staffers - a bridge between
the two movements. The National Right to Life Committee would have
gained pointers because, despite the pro-choice populace, they hailed
TNN, and the NARAL and PP would have looked like numbnutskulls because
they'd have slammed TNN in the name of their extremist agenda. 

TNN was, until Mary began seriously identifying herself with pro-life
movements, a public relations nightmare for the pro-choice movement
because they do not have the tools necessary to create their own TNN,
and in addition, it would just be known as a copy-cat maneuver. It
also would not have the ideological diversity that TNN had. 

>> The
>> main difference is that the feminist groups want
>> to see this provided to all women in society, not
>> just those able to meet the requirements of
>> organizations that may or may not be operating
>> in their area.
>
>
>Being pregnant and in need of help doesn't sound like stringent "requirements"
>whatsoever to me.   But do not ever expect an organization devoted to providing
>alternatives to abortion to _ever_ aid someone in _obtaining_ an abortion.
>That's just garbage.

Naw, Suzanne! Let them have a national abortion alternative plan in
the Government. 

The problem is, no one would know how to run it except for those who
run the current system of abortion alternatives: the folks from the
various crisis pregnancy centers in America. They would, by default,
be the only people that anyone could find specialized enough to do the
job. 

Now, the pro-aborts wouldn't want to have pro-lifers taking over yet 
another government agency, now would they? Which is why you'll _never_
see any help from them, to supply alternatives to abortion, in
society.  

>> Linda
>
>Suzanne.


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