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From: celia@ssc-vax.boeing.com (Celia H Modell)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: ChildSeat Recall
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:15:13 GMT
Organization: Boeing Defense and Space Group, Seattle WA

I'm posting this for a friend so I don't know any more than what is
here but it seemed like appropriate material:

Taken from the Sacramento Bee without permission (10/9/92)

Child Safety Seats Being Recalled

AP - WASHINGTON
Fisher Price is recalling about 900,000 child safety seats because of
defects that can make them difficult to buckle or allow the shoulder
belts to move out of proper postition, the National Highway and Traffic
Safety Administration said Thursday.

The recall involves three models of safety seats

About 424,000 model 9100 and 9101 seats have plastic on the buckle shield
that can break after repeated use.

About 472,000 model 9101 seats are being recalled because the shoulder belts
can move out of their proper position.

About 14,000 model 9104 deluxe booster seats have a red button on the buckle
that can come off, preventing fastening.

Fisher Price's toll-free number between 8 a.m. and 6 p.m. EDT is 
800-332-3457 for models 9100 and 9101, and 800-432-5437 for model 9104.

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From: ephraim@think.com (Ephraim Vishniac)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Experiments
Date: 7 Oct 1992 14:23:39 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: leander.think.com

Yet another low-budget physical science experiment: Bernoulli in the
bathroom.

You can demonstrate Bernoulli's principle two different ways using a
ping-pong ball and items in your bathroom. Turn a hair-dryer on high
speed (but low or no heat, if possible), and point it straight up.
Place the ping-pong ball in the column of rising air, and watch it
float. I saw this at the Discovery Museum in Acton, where you can play
miniature basketball this way. 

Float the ping-pong ball in the tub. Pour a stream of water onto it,
and notice that the ball stays centered in the stream instead of being
pushed out. (Running water from the tap works too, but eventually the
tub fills up.) My five-year-old son pointed this out to me last night
while playing in the bath. 

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From: dtwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Danielle T Wei)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: BARBIE DOES IT AGAIN!!!!
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:43:59 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <LAUNCE.92Oct16112245@apollo.med.utah.edu> launce@apollo.med.utah.edu (Tri-Ungulate) writes:
>
>>   Only... ONLY 760 out of 800 on math? That's one smart cookie. I want
>>   Amy Tan was another Asian American woman who got 99th percentile Math
>>   My verbal SAT was "only" 650 vs. my 720 math, and I did't even
>Well *MY* SAT was XXX verbal, and XXX math.  As if it matters or "proves"

Hehehe, maybe we should get everybody w/ high Math SAT scores to add
to this thread!! Personally, I had an 800 math :-P

NW
From: laird@airedale.metaphor.com (Barbara Laird)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Mommy's little helper
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:38:21 GMT
Organization: Metaphor Computer Systems, Mountain View, CA

My daughter Chelsea (15 months) has a fascination with wiping up spills.
When she finishes eating she'll take a napkin and work very hard at cleaning
her tray.  She runs around the house with kitchen towels pretending to clean
any thing she can find.  Now her favorite thing to do is take her sippy cups
and dump as much of the liquid as she can and then clean it up with whatever
cloth is available (even her clothes).  Any suggestions how I can stop this
without stopping the other cute and helpful behaviors?  

Barbara
From: zippy@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (steven.s.albert)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: 92 Re: Names (don't do this to your kids)
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:57:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <SHAFER.92Oct6153914@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov>, shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) writes:
> There was indeed a Major Major here at Edwards AFB once.  At the same
> time we also had a Captain Marvel.

This reminded me of grad school.  One of my classmates was in the Air Force.
He was Captain Kidd.

	Steve Albert (Billy's dad [28 months])
	ssa@usl.com
From: CINDY2@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Cindy J. Mitchell)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Where to get the Tough Traveler?
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:55:04 GMT
 <1992Oct5.133015.27596@crd.ge.com>
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Maine System

LL BEAN no longer sells the Tough Traveler. They have an imported
variation on the same style.  It sells for $99.  A friend who
has had both (the stand on the Tough Traveler broke. LL Bean
took it back.) likes some of the features of the one LL Bean
carries better. I haven't personally tried it, but I love my
Tough Traveller!

Cindy
From: millerj@belize.crd.ge.com (Julia K. Miller)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Midwife info/Food and Fluids in Labour
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:38:24 GMT
Reply-To: belize!millerj@steinmetz.UUCP (Julia K. Miller)
Distribution: na
Organization: GE Corporate Research & Development

In article <BvrIsF.7FD@access.digex.com> minx@access.digex.com (minx) writes:
>
>Athletes carbo-load before a big work out, why shouldn't women in
>labor?
>
>Minx

	While they usually try to increase the carbos the days before a race,
runners for one don't usually eat a large meal right before a race.  I do
try to eat something that is light and a high energy source that morning tho.
If I stuff myself or eat a lot of fatty foods, I find myself getting queasy.
On the other hand, if I don't eat at all I can get really light headed.
Maybe increasing your carbos might be something you should do as your due 
date nears and take in some high energy sources during the early stages.


Julia
From: van@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (valerie.thompson)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Meconium in Waters (was Re: Birth Story & moving with a newborn)Keywords:
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:07:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T


Someone asked 
what a midwife does when there's meconium in the water...that happened
to my 3rd child, and it wasn't a problem.  My midwife broke the water, and
I immediately was ready to push, then she told me that there was meconium
in the water.  She called the pediatrician, who came in and said "Yes, that's
meconium...call me when the baby's born."  20 minutes later, the my
daughter was born, the dr came back, and spent 1-2 minutes making sure
that her lungs were clear (they were).  The part that made me mad is
that I was charged $200 for his 1st 30 second yes-that's-meconium visit,
and my daughter was charged $200 for the 1-2 minutes spent clearing
her lungs!  Yes, if something *had* been wrong, I would have been
glad he was there, and it's doubtful that I would have objected to
a combined $400 charge, but...I think the fee was excessive for the
service provided!  (I argued afterwards about this, saying it didn't
seem right to charge what some people make in a week for less than
5 minutes work...it didn't make a difference, and I ultimately
switched doctors.)
If could do it all over again, I think I'd try harder to get my hubby
to agree to a home birth.

Valerie
From: jm5p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Judi Mancuso)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Kids and Summer...What to do?
Date: 16 Oct 92 07:51:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.EeriIC600Uh_829sdT
Organization: Student Employment Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Karen asks about what to do with your kid in the summmer---

I felt the EXACT same way--I wanted my kids to have the same summers I
had when I was a kid--it nagged the hell out of me--well, I finally
figured it out--they aren't going to have the same summers I had--I
didn't have the same ones my parents had and that's just the way it
works.  How I figured this out was when I took the summer off 2 years
ago after my son finished kindergarten. It was an elongated maternity
leave of sorts. I was going to "GIVE HIM" this ideal summer I had in my
head! What I didn't think is--- what is a 5 year old supposed to do all
day?  We went to the pool--if there were kids there he knew, he played,
if not, he whined.  We went to the park--same thing. The mall wasn't
exactly his favorite place. Walks to "nowhere" weren't for him.  Board
games only lasted so long.  Don't get me wrong, we had some WONDERFUL
days--about 15 days stand out--not counting our yearly vacation (leading
me to believe that you could take extra days off, use weekends). It
sounds so corny but times are different--there weren't enough "at home"
moms to take their kids to the pool and the park so my son didn't have
any buddies to just hang out with (which is what I did every summer). 
Regardless, I had a very wonderful summer--it was a much needed break
from work for me and at the end of the summer, I had a beautiful baby
girl. Over all, I think my son had a decent summer but I know he was
bored quite a bit of the time (how many day trips can you make!).
Last summer I tossed around the au pair idea and the college girl coming
over daily idea but I wasn't comfortable with just leaving him home all
day.  He ended up going to this camp sponsored by the YWCA and it was
EXACTLY what summer should be like!  Swimming, baseball games, camp
outs, picnics, races, carnivals, crafts, ...... all the while making
friends and being with other kids.  He was happy as a clam in the
morning and dead tired each night!  And, now he tells me that when I
take a day off--it is a special day.  I don't think he is consiously
referring to the summer I stayed home--but it really felt pretty
good--knowing that I DO NOT HAVE TO  MAKE AN ENTIRE SEASON SPECIAL BY
STAYING HOME.  Check out your local YWCA---I an guessing that these
programs exist all over the country!
Summer is not that far off!   Good Luck.  Judi 
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: robert@jetsun.weitek.COM (Robert Plamondon)
Subject: Re: What happened to Barney?
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 20:20:22 GMT

>> Thank goodness! I thought I was the only one who couldn't stand
>> Barney and the kids on the show. There's something "strange"
>> about them. I'd wondered about their overacting and moronic
>> smiles so much so that it crossed my mind that they were from
>> some bizarre cult. (No offense intended to those who believe in
>> their cult of choice.) But the kids do seem to be sort of vacant
>> eyed...
>> 
>> liz jones

These are side effects of cheap filming.  They don't retake bad shots,
they probably use two or three video cameras, so it's never entirely
clear to the kids what they're supposed to be looking at when they say
their lines, and the kids have to keep smiling through hours of shooting
at a time.  Then, to frame the action properly, they're practically always
facing AWAY from Barney through the song-and-dance bits that HE initiated.

Add to this the studio-recorded songs, badly lip-synched during filming
(the show would cost a LOT more if they had to retake each song until
the singing and dancing were both right at the same time), and you've
got something that appears (to us) to be about 110% artificial.

Finally, Barney's uncontrollable chuckling makes him sound like a
stereotypical child molester.

But Danny's been totally entranced by the show since he was around eight
or nine months old.  Should I worry that Barney will lower his appreciation
of video production values?  I doubt it.

	-- Robert
-- 
    Robert Plamondon, robert@weitek.COM

"Ready whenever you are, C.B.!"
From: vicki@mathcs.emory.edu (Vicki Powers)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Juggling Work and Family -- long term effects?
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:15:48 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS

In article <3411@isgtec.isgtec.com>, mike@isgtec.com (Mike Sellers) writes:

> I *know* this is highly non-PC, and will probably get me roundly flamed
> (especially given that it is so painful to many people), but I think it
> needs to be pointed out that the few hours in the evening (say, the 2-3 
> between 6 when you pick your child up and 8 or 9 when they go to bed) do 
> not outweigh the many (8-10?) hours that they spend with another person 
> during the day.  Consider the cumulative waking time spent with you vs. the 
> caregiver between birth and 5 years -- at 240 working days per year, figure 
> approximately 3025 for you and 12100 for the caregiver, or 4x as much as you.
> Your child is spending 80% of their waking life with one or more non-parent 
> adults (who may themselves come and go frequently, as happens in many 
> "professional" daycare centers).  On the one hand, you may hope that your 
> child doesn't become attached to their daytime caregiver for fear that this 
> person will replace you, but on the other hand, a child who has *not* formed 
> a permanent attachment with an adult is going to have all sorts of social 
> problems later on.  

I don't want to start another round of "stay-at-homes" versus "both-parents
working", but I did want to point out that the above calculations don't 
agree with my own calculations.  (This article prompted me to do a little
calculation of my own.)  My daughter (27 months) spends about 11.5  hours of
each day awake (she sleeps 11 hours at night and takes a 1.5 hour nap each
day). 5 days a week she spends 9 hours at day-care, but of those 9  hours
she is asleep for 1.5 hours.  That means that of her 11.5 X 7 = 80.5 waking
hours each week she spends 7.5 X 5 = 37.5 hours at day-care.  That's 47% of
her waking time at day-care, 53% with her parents.  And that doesn't include
vacations and holidays.  Other parents may have different numbers, but 80%
sounds way too high to me.



   Vicki





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Emory University    |  absolutes, suddenly every value he's been taught is
Dept of Math and CS |  destroyed.  And the next thing you know, the student
Atlanta, GA 30322   |  turns to crime and drugs. - Mel Gabler
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: narasimh@wl.com (Lakshmi Narasimhan)
Subject: Re: How to get daughter more career-minded?
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:29:22 GMT

In article <aidler.718174004@sanjuan> aidler@sanjuan.UVic.CA (E Alan Idler) writes:
>judy@locus.com (Judy Leedom Tyrer) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Sep28.160918.12999@engage.pko.dec.com> pub@riscee.pko.dec.com (Publius) writes:
>>>We have a 4 years old daughter who is really bright.  ...
>>>
>>>Then, a few weeks ago, I took her to the doctor for her regular
>>>checkup.  On our way back, I asked her: "Do you want to be a
>>>doctor when you grow up?"  Her answer shocked me.  "No," she said
>>>"I want to get married."  "But you can be a doctor and get married
>>>too" I tried to tell her that there is really no conflict here.
>>>"No," she said "I want to be a mom and have kids."  "But you can
>>>be a mom, have kids, and be a doctor at the same time." I was trying
>>>my best to explain to her.  "No," her voice became lauder "I don't
>>>want to be a doctor.  I want to get married when I grow up."
>>>
This reminds me of a similar conversation I had with my 3 year old.  She
hates trips to the doctor and creates a scene even if the visit is for a
simple checkup at the pediatrician's office.  However, for a while she used
to say that when she grows up she was going to be a doctor making us secretly
happy.  Her imagination was that she would be pediatrician and the children
brought to her office would cry and scream, and that she would calm them
down by saying "Don't cry.  I am not going to hurt you, only going to check
you".  However with no notice, this changed recently.  One of our conversation
recently went like this:
dad: Boy you learnt how to write a 'B'.They are going to love you in med.school
Shobha: But daddy, I am not going to medical school.
dad: I thought you wanted to be a doctor.  To become a doctor you study in
	a medical school
Shobha: I don't want to be a doctor.  I want to be a computer.
dad:  Why do you want to be a computer?
Shobha: I don't know, I want to be a computer.
dad: OK, when you grow up you can be a computer.
I still don't know what it is to be computer, but now I know not to get 
excited about career plans of a 3 yo.

cheers.
narasimh@wl.com
Lakshmi Narasimhan, Parke-Davis Research, Ann Arbor, MI.
From: dsegelho@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Diane Segelhorst)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Babies playing together (Was Re: Daycare -- when to investigate
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:01:02 GMT
Reply-To: dsegelho@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Diane Segelhorst)
Organization: Annapolis Detachment, CDNSWC

In misc.kids, rollo@xylogics.com (Dena Rollo) writes:
(Much sensible info on selecting daycare deleted)

(writing about her 8 month old daughter)
She also interacts
>with the other babies and, though I know they say kids this
>age are not capable of playing together, she and her "friend"
>Caitlin, who's 2 weeks younger, spend lots of time checking
>each other and each other's toys out, crawling over eachother,
>etc.

I also disagree with what "they" say about babies and toddlers not being
able to play with each other.  My son has been with the same daycare
provider since he was 4 months old, and she has a daughter just two
days older than him.  They definitely play together, and have for a
long time.  When they were learning to walk (9 months) they played a
form of tag.  At about a year, they played ring-around-the-rosie almost
incessantly.  Now, at 26 months, they play all sort of games, from hide
and seek, to mailman (pretend play), to chase, to ...

Brad also plays with Carrie.  This weekend, he discovered that he could
make her laugh.  He would shake his head really fast back and forth,
then stop.  Carrie just giggled away!  This went on for at LEAST 15
minutes.  He also will hold his toy phone up to his ear, then give Carrie
a turn to "talk", then take his turn again.  It really is cute.

Diane Segelhorst
dsegelho@oasys.dt.navy.mil
Mom to Brad, 2 1/4 years, and Carrie, 4 months
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: ted@ocsmd.ocs.com (Ted Scott)
Subject: Re: Smoke detectors
Organization: Online Computer Systems, Inc.  Germantown, Md., 20874
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:07:53 GMT

Cathryn W. Chiesa (cew@med.unc.edu) wrote:
: I have heard there are detectors that are wired and then
: have a battery back up.  We have made ourselves a promise

Indeed there are! They are mostly the top of the line in detectors,
and most will interconnect so the attic detector will cause the 
kitchen detector to ring also, etc...

--

-Ted Scott          
tscott@ocsmd.ocs.com           I was told that I'm a P.C. person:
(301) 601-2252                               Politically Challenged, that is.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: goldberg@eldyn.gsfc.nasa.gov (Patti Twigg)
Subject: Re: one year olds
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD, USA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:56:00 GMT

In article <2583@cronos.metaphor.com>, laird@airedale.metaphor.com (Barbara Laird) writes...
> 
>>>She wears her dinner (last night it was stuffed
>>>shells, which I had never thought of as finger food before).  She
>>>likes to splash her hands and face after she eats (she will willingly
>>>have her face wiped this way and she hates when I wipe it with a
>>>cloth).  I'd just like to know if I'm alone.
> 
>Chelsea is the same way.  If I take her to the sink and run the water she'll
>practically wash herself.  But, if I try to wipe her face or hands she
>reacts like I'm trying to kill her.  This usually isn't a problem, except
>when we're out somewhere and there isn't running water near-by.  The eating
>does eventually get neater.  Good Luck!
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 

When? I want dates! 8-) My seven year old daughter likes to use her
fingers to eat spaghetti. And she likes to put her fingers into her
milk glass. And, she drops food all the time - her cahir is usually
full of crumbs after she finishes eating, and last night she dropped
3 grapes on the floor ('but mommy, they're slippery'). Ack.

                                Patti Twigg
From: pfieland@citron.sw.stratus.com (Peggy Fieland)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Brazelton on toys (long)
Keywords: toy guns, fads, Madonna posters, computer games
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:09:49 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <1992Oct7.235600.6745@jetsun.weitek.COM> nadja@jetsun.weitek.COM (Nadja Adolf) writes:
>Interesting cultural side note. Where I grew up children were NOT allowed
>to point toy guns at each other unless they were playing war and INTENDED 
>to hit a target. (The Indians were the good guys on the reservation.)
>


I think that this is a good idea, but it's true that this is not 
generally the case here.  

However, here is an interesting (to me, anyway) anecdote.  My father
bought my kids their first guns.  I wasn't too thrilled, especially as
these were <REALLY NOISY> space laser-gun type things (a lot of the 
appeal, I think).  Anyway, we got home, and my kids started to play
with them, pointing the guns at each other and shooting.  My father
immediately jumped in, pointed the guns towards the floor, and
proceeded to lecture the boys on gun safety to the tune of
"NEVER point any kind of gun, even a toy gun, unless you intend
to really hit them".  Hopefully, it made some kind of impression.

Peggy
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: jeffk@dosXX.med.utah.edu (Jeff Knell)
Subject: questions: baby monitors
Organization: Department of Genetics, University of Utah
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:16:49

We have been using a Gerry monitor for three years;
this is one of those two-unit deals -- one in the
parent's bedroom, and one so the baby can hear when
they're messing around. 

It has developed a very annoying buzz, and it has 
the unwanted ability to pick up the neighbor's CB 
transmissions.

Does anyone have any suggestions on better monitors?

Does anyone know if all montiors work on common CB
frequencies?  If not, which ones do not?


Thanks in advance.


jeff
From: wyatt@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Bill Wyatt)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: How to get son more career-minded? : -
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:24:26 GMT
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA

I've read this thread for some time now, and I think only one other
person even suggested that he or she thought the same as me.

Which is, that the original poster was joking! I mean, this stuff
was shocking if meant seriously, but come on! It was straight out
of the movie `Parents' or something, about the nerdy couple doing
flash cards on their 3yo daughter. 

-- 
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