From: larocqu@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (JOHN LAROCQUE)
Subject: Re: NDP "communism?" (was Re: A vote for Reform...)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 04:04:18 GMT

In article <C0ny5o.EHp@mach1.wlu.ca> brea9430@mach1.wlu.ca (breadner ken u) writes:

>>Making capitalism more equitable - what the f**k is that supposed to mean.
>>Hard working people who are told that their hard earned money doesn't
>>belong to them - it belongs to "society".

>When has Mr. Rae said anything of the sort?

Actually you get it the moment you go to school. Remember all those
"sharing" lessons you got in kindergarten     :-)

Socialism - in all of its forms - is based on the belief that there is this
thing called social rights and that we are bound "as our brother's keeper"
(as a sop to all of those evil Christian socialists) to have the state
look after people's problems. This paternalistic attitude is their answer
to 19th century slavery. Some bureaucrat who gives a hungry guy a welfare
cheque is no different to some slimeball slave owner who keeps his
slaves well fed so they can work for him and say "thank you massah".
Socialism is slavery.

>>People who are harassed and thrown in jail for opposing the state.

>Last I looked, this sort of thing doesn't even happen in what used to be
>the U>S.S.R. anymore, and I don't think it's ever happened in Canada.

Look up this wonderful book called But NOT In Canada by Walter Stewart.
Full of fine examples just like the above.

In London we had a freedom fighter - Marc Emery.

A small businessman who ran a book store, he fought the system and lost.

When the evill Ontario Tories levelled something called the BIA - which
bascially meant that he had to pay EXTRA money to retired ex-businessman
corporate welfare bums - to "improve" his business area - he fumed and
fought and lost.

When he fought our evil Sunday shopping laws in Ontario he went to jail.
They actually charged him for GIVING books away on Sunday. Evil Ontario.
Evil Laws. Evil Police. Evil Politicians.

When some asshole high school teacher wanted to ban the Freddy TV show,
he stood up and said censorship sucked. He valiantly imported copies
of 2 Live Crew just to piss off the local police and to make a stand.
But this being London Ontario where nothing sensible ever gets done
and old money crushes the hopes of real entrepreneurs - what can you
expect. People who fight censorship, taxes and old money get thrown
in jail, just like Marc Emery.

He is now in Thailand - having escaped this wretched province. I hope
he is much happier now. 

>for their own problems. So why are you so anxious to blame the politicians
>of a particular stripe

Oh no you misjudge me! They are all scoundrels or socialists to some
degree. You know - 'for the good of the people' and all.

>I know, I know, I'm supposed to trim articles down before I post, but will
>you all just LOOK at this lunatic's ravings?

Let's trim down the insults here.

>Perhaps what we REALLY ought to do is to get educational programs out
>there extolling the virtues of living a clean life--without forcing people
>to do what we want. Oh, gee, these programs exist already? Could they
>maybe be the reason smoking is on the wane, our attitudes towards drinking
>are changing, and our society is becoming more and more healthy as a
>whole? Naw. Couldn't be.

I'm now forcing anybody to do anything - I just want their hands off
my wallet. Who is forcing whom here?

>You know, I've got a picture right now, in my mind. I'm picturing my
>correspondent here getting into a car accident. We need not even make it
>his fault--after all, from what he's saying, nothing can ever possibly be
>his fault anyway. Now, as a result of said accident, the man requires a
>blood transfusion. From said transfusion, the man develops AIDS. Of
>course, the system he fought so hard for now ignores him. Poetic justice.

Blood testing is very good no. Why spread rumors about the blood supply?

I say, if we are to have a health care system - lets look after people who
care for their health and ignore people who knew better and didn't. Make
'em pay. I will bet you my life insurance that if you added all the cig
taxes up and compared them to the stats for illnesses brought on by
cigs the figure on the right would still be taller. Cig company presidents
are actulaly mass murderers who are considered legitimate because more
people smoke tobacco than snort cocaine. People who grow tobacco are
accomplices. People who smoke it are commiting suicide. Wonderful!

>Fat people? Don't make me laugh. Did you know, Mr. Know-It-All, that many
>fat people are in perfect health? Did you know that weight has more to
>do with genetics than with welfare payment cheques? Did you know this?
>How did you get to be so ignorant? Do you practice?

Weight is caused by many factors. I saw this woman who must've been 250 
pounds on TV whining about welfare. She had a f***ing TV and beer cans and
said that she didn't have enough moenhy for her kid. Is that right? 
If people are fat and rich, maybe they can pay for their problems and I
have no problem with that. But if people are fat and on welfare and ask
for more money - I tell them - spend your money on better things than the
food that got you fat. Or the beer that gave you that belly. Or the cigarettes
that gave you that cough. If they can afford beer and cigarettes, then they
don't need any more money.

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