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From: bradley@solstice.riacs.edu (Brad Christofferson)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Late summer crop suggestions requested
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:47:35 GMT
Organization: RIACS, NASA Ames Research Center


Beans.  Blue Lake variety are the best.  Either bush beans or pole beans.  I
planted pole beans this year because they are more fun.

Another thing you might consider is getting ready for a winter garden.  Have you
every grown broccoli or cauliflower?  If you start the seeds in flats in a couple
of weeks, then transplant to four inch pots,  you should have some nice healthy
plants to put in the ground by October.  This will give the plants a good head
start and by the time growing slows down in the winter you should already have
some nice heads.

Lettuce won't do well until fall.  I don't know about spinach or chard.  It might
be too hot to start those.  You might try starting some chard indoors or in a
spot that only receives early morning sun.  Then harden it off as it gets to a
decent size.
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From: bobw@csg.uwaterloo.ca (Bob Wildfong)
Subject: Re: Common name for Salpiglossus (sp?) ?
Organization: Computer Systems Group, University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:04:07 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.002346.9023@brtph560.bnr.ca> bhaskar@brtph598.bnr.ca (Shaji Bhaskar) writes:
>
>This is a plant with bunches of rose colored flowers, about a foot tall.
>Supposedly, it is related to eggplants.  Does anyone know where I can find
>it and what it's common name is?
>
>Thanks a lot - 
>Shaji


Salpiglossis is, IMHO, one of the most beautiful cultivated flowers.
They come in a variety of colours, often combined in each flower.
I recently saw one with a scarlet trumpet marbled with purple veins brightening
toward the centre to a yellow throat.  It was really quite striking.

I've never seen salpiglossis plants in any nursery, but seeds are available
from many seed companies.  I've had very good success just sowing the seeds
directly after frost.  Sorry I don't have any seed company addresses handy.

The common name that I've seen is "Velvet Flower", although it is just as
frequently called by the botanical name salpiglossis.

Yes, it is in the Solanaceae family along with eggplants, tomatoes and
petunias.
 
Bob Wildfong                                       bobw@csg.uwaterloo.ca
Waterloo, Ontario                                  bobw@csg.waterloo.edu
AgCan zone 5a, USDA zone 4 (on a windy hilltop)

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From: aa713@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John Brooking)
Subject: Anyone been to AmeriFlora?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 02:08:33 GMT


Has anyone on this list been to AmeriFlora, in Columbus, OH?  My parents were
there on opening day, but the perennials were not yet in bloom.  Anyone know
how they are doing?  (My mom might be tempted to go back if so, my dad said
no.)

- JohnB
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From: vsummers@polaris.cv.nrao.edu (Vince Summers)
Subject: Re: Books by D. Stokes
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory
Distribution: rec.gardens
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:02:15 GMT

     I don't wish to give a wrong impression--MOST of Don Stokes' books are
worthwhile.  Also, he pushes evoltionism at every opportunity.  If you think
some religionists are bad, you haven't run across the evolutionists.
     Nevertheless, to use an example of his interesting stories, he talks about
how snow affects wildlife in one of his books.  The depth and nature of the
snow--wet, dry, powdery, glazed, etc. and how each variety affects winter
wildlife differently.  Then to add depth he discusses snowflake types and
conditions under which they are formed, and how they can be seen and the
rarity of their appearance and the resulting nature of the snow fall.  
     Any other recommended authors out there, and why?

Vince Summers
vsummers@polaris.cv.nrao.edu
From: seifert@yesac.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Rick.Seifert)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Squash plants don't produce Squash
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:43:52 GMT
Organization: NCR Corp
Originator: seifert@yesac.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM


I have a square foot garden that has done very well this year producing plenty
of garden delights like early lettuce and carrots, followed by white corn and
tomatoes.  Now my tomatoes are still producing, my cucumbers and kentucky
wonders are going like mad, but my summer squash isn't doing diddly.

I have two big plants(grown from seed) and while they are blooming like mad,
I get no squash!  I see bees inside the flowers, so I don't think pollenation
is a problem and I have been using miracle grow about every two weeks(according
to the instructions) and the plants look healthy.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks
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From: jhb@calmasd.prime.com (Jim Bishop)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Late summer crop suggestions requested
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:06:20 GMT
Organization: -

In article <1992Jul20.202004.29517@dcdwest.uucp>, 
benson@dcdwest.uucp (Peter Benson) writes:

> The potatoes, spaghetti squash and acorn squash seem to have finished.
> The onions have been harvested.  The lettuce has gone to seed.  I am
> looking for suggestions for new crops to plant to make use of the rest
> of the growing season.
> 

You still have time for lots of summer crops; peppers, tomatoes, corn,
summer squash, eggplant, and basil just to name a few.  (Have you
ever noticed that lots of farmers in San Diego plant tomatoes in the
summer so that they will have a fall and early winter crop that has
less competition and hence is worth more dollars?)

> It's hot where I live in the valleys of San
> Diego county.  September may bring Santa Ana winds and temperatures well
> over 100.  Frost won't come until late December, if at all.  The garden
> gets full sun in moderately fertile soil of decomposed granite and
> vegetable matter.
> 
> I would like to plant some salad greens, but other plants would be good.

Lettuce is difficult to germinate if soil temperatures are above 70
degrees.  I'd hold off on the lettuce crops until late August or
September.  Also, try some sugar peas this fall and winter.  They are
wonderful and you can't buy anything like them at the grocery store.

Jim
From: mccurdy@bestsd.sdsu.edu (McCurdy M.)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Circles of 'shrooms ?
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:16:00 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University - Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1992Jul29.020924.1123@engage.pko.dec.com>, moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com          writes...

>While this seems mighty bizarre it's not that uncommon.  This phenomenom is
>called a 'fairy ring', and what it is is a single fungus that starts growing
>from a point outward in all directions.  Soon the fungus consumes the food
> 
>The ancients thought these things were deliberately created by fairies or
>other woodland beings for dances or something, hence the name.

OH MAN! You mean they're not?! First Dennis Miller and now this.

I guess I'll just have to find somewhere else to prance around and act 
sprightly ...

Mike



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From: allan@visix.com (Allan Pirie)
Subject: Re: Japanese Beetles everywhere
Organization: Visix Software Inc., Reston, VA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 21:40:59 GMT

In article <4578@verdix.verdix.com> jean@verdix.com (Jean C. Jaiswal) writes:
>Just as an additional note about the kerosene method.  We use to use
>this exclusive in North Caroline.  But we put just an inch of kerosene
>in a jar and then added water.  It worked great since kerosene
>floats on water.  Probably you can use less kerosene this way.

Try a can with a few ounces of water and a healthy squirt of dish detergent or laundry detergent. Kills 'em in a few minutes. Kerosene or gas kills quicker but is not as nice to dispose of. I just pour out the soapy water and bodies on the grass after I'm done.
From: Tammie.J.Taggart@dartmouth.edu (Tammie J. Taggart)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: My poor begonia
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:02:38 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

I gave my boyfriend a begonia plant about a year ago.  Up until the
last few days it's been growing nicely.  It has recently turned turned
pale and drooped over.  Could I have overwatered it?  I keep the soil
moist usually.  Is it recoverable?  I hope I didn't kill his plant.  Do
any of you have suggestions?  My love life is at stake!
From: eel2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (EDWARD E. LOTTO)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Hawthorne Growth
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:21:50 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I have a strange growth on my Washington Hawthorne and wonder if I need to do
anything about it.  It starts as tiny orange spikes on the berries.  Then the
berries swell up and become hard and brown.  At this point sometimes the
berries blacken and shrivel up or sometimes the growth seems to creep up the
twig and make that swell up and become hard and brown.  About 10% of the
berries seem to be affected.  I've looked in a bunch of books for hawthorne
diseases, but can't find anything like this.  Any help anyone has will be
appreciated.
From: pharvey@mipos3.intel.com (Paul Harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: "sludge" or biosolids
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:54:54 GMT
	<1992Jul23.213313.15061@sequent.com> 
	<1992Jul24.193758.29196@serval.net.wsu.edu>

In article <1992Jul24.193758.29196@serval.net.wsu.edu> 
sfinfroc@beta.tricity.wsu.edu (Scott H. Finfrock) writes:
>Of course that doesn't necessarily mean it is safe :-) but most
>of the scientific concern over it seemed to be directed towards
>the possibility of airborne spreading of disease, not of contaminents
>getting in the food.

I thought the main scientific concern was the presence of heavy metals in
unknown quantites that vary from lot to lot depending on the source of the
sludge. These heavy metals eventually poison the soil and can get into
plants and elsewhere in the food cycle, like us. Has the issue of heavy
metals in sewerage sludge been solved?

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From: kgo@comm.wang.com (Kirk Olsen)
Subject: Re: Japanese Beetles everywhere
Organization: Wang Labs
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 16:02:54 GMT

In <4116@news.duke.edu> spencer@roentgen.RadOnc.Duke.EDU (David P. Spencer) writes:

>In article <4578@verdix.verdix.com> jean@verdix.com (Jean C. Jaiswal) writes:
>>Just as an additional note about the kerosene method.  We use to use
>>this exclusive in North Caroline.  But we put just an inch of kerosene
>>in a jar and then added water.  It worked great since kerosene
>>floats on water.  Probably you can use less kerosene this way.


>Better, yet, use no kerosene at all!
>A jar of water with a little dish soap in it works just fine, the soap 
>lowers the surface tension, and they sink in.  Unfortunately, they do swim 
>around and take a while to drown, but they do not escape.  If they are dead, 
>throw them on your compost heap.  We kill dozens every day with this 
>technique.  No sign of an impending shortage, though.  :(>

And as yet another enhancement to the soap with water method - use hot water
the beetles drown quite fast.  

>DPSpencer, Chapel Hill, North Carolina
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From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Subject: Japanese Beetles everywhere
Organization: CompuData Inc.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:42:14 GMT
Summary: what's going on here?
Keywords: beetle feast

All of a sudden we are being invaded by these little brown critters. They seem 
to love my marigolds. I quickly bought two beetle traps and they are slowly 
filling up. I put one right next to this large container I have with various 
flowers in it but with a big yellow marigold in the middle. I see 10 to 20 
beetles sitting there at any one time - all the time. Are some Japanese beetles
not turned on by a beetle trap with its sweet smell?

These buggers are eating my flowers. Should I spray with something?

fred

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From: mpc@biosys.apldbio.COM (Morgan Conrad)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Starting Out
Keywords: soil, advice
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:18:44 GMT
Organization: Applied Biosystems, Inc., Foster City, CA


  I'm starting out gardening in a new place along the California coast.
I like somebody to come by the place briefly, take a look, and give
advice like "That shady area will be good for ..." or "This soil
is too acidic for xxx, you might try yyy instead, or else treat
the soil with zzz" - basically, some good ideas where to get started.
From then on I'll read books, watch some of my plants die, some
flourish, and learn by experience (and this newsgroup :-))

  Are such people available from the USDA or anything like that?  Or
should I check out local nurseries and pay a little money?

Thanks


Morgan Conrad         live so that you 
Applied Biosystems    can stick out your tongue
mpc@apldbio.com       at the insurance
415-570-6667          doctor             archy
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From: cigno@sgi.com (Kevin Walsh)
Subject: Re: BUNNIES in garden
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 18:04:01 GMT

	I think fencing may be the best solution.  Up in Mendocino
	county, a garden is behind "deer" fencing or there is no garden.  
	The deer eat EVERYTHING.  The fencing also has a smaller mesh 
	at the bottom to keep out the rabbits.  It works, but never leave
	the gate open and make sure the space between the gate and the
	gate post is small enough to keep out the rabbits.  
	 
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From: woodley@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Judy Woodley)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Lawns was (Alternative Commercial Landscaping)
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:45:32 GMT
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server

A few years ago a neighboring office park was constructed.  Being in the middle
of a drought, I was very interested in what landscaping they would select.
I was abhorred when they put in a huge pond with fountains (not to be used for
air conditioning as some ponds are) and 80% of the remaining area was fine
bladed grass.  This year they had the grace to put a sign out that they were
watering with recycled water.

Since they are in the middle of Palo Alto, California, surrounded by other
office complexes, I don't think they were thinking fire break.  Recycled 
water or not, I think they were poor 'citizens' to put in this type of
landscaping.

(I am very proud that the site I work on uses native and drought tolerant
plants extensively, all watered with drip systems.  What lawn we had is a
lovely beige.  I have learned a great deal about plants and plantings from
this and am attempting to implement some of it at home to replace the 
extensive lawns our home had when we bought it.)

Judy Woodley -- I speak for myself, not for my employer.
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: I'm back... just like quackgrass...
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:09:24 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I'm back!  The Gandalf seems to be up, so I'll post parts of the FAQ on 
Tuesday, the net gods willing...

Went up to vacation in Wisconsin, and spent most of my time squashing
aquatic plants for the herbarium.  I think I have 3 or 4 species of 
Utricularia, (bladderwort, a carnivorous plant that works on the 
principle of a vacuum cleaner), but haven't had time to key them.

Just stopped in to grab my mail, and get back on the road-- gotta
lecture in western Iowa on orchids on Sunday night.  Hope my slides
are still in order, or it's gonna be a strange lecture... ;-)

Missed you all!

Kay
From: brett@dvorak.amd.com (Brett Stewart)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Rabbit!
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:23:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

Thanks for the many suggestions of how to deal with my rabbit
problem.  The rascal was captured live with a 'Havahart' brand live
trap, for which I paid $35. in the local hardware store.  Bait was
fresh carrots with the tops on.  The rabit was captured on the third
night the trap was set out, with the original bait still in the
trap.  The trap was place beneath shrubs in a run-sized opening, near
some fall annuals that had recently come up and which the rabbit
found quite tasty.  The rabbit appears to be an escaped domestic type,
and has been given a new home.

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From: macheske@aero.org (Richard M. Macheske)
Subject: SKUNKS!!! help
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 00:47:31 GMT

I've seen quite a few postings about getting rid of rabbits, gophers
moles, etc.  I think this could be worse!  How do I get rid of or 
discourage a family of skunks on my property?

Every once in a while, in the evening, I can smell skunk.  I don't 
want my dog to come waltzing in smelling like that.  I found two
tunnels, approximately 8 inch diameter on my hill.

HELP!!!!
Rick
From: bbeer@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Beer)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: PPitcher Plant Addendum
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:21:39 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

>In my previous posting about pitcher plant genera I inadvertently 
>omitted Chrysamphora californica, the so-called Cobra Lily, a 
>North American native.  This plant used to be called Darlingtonia
>californica, but the gods of taxonomy and nomenclature ruled that 
>name invalid some years ago.

Reverse that:  The old genus name was Chrysamphora; the present name is
Darlingtonia.

Bob
Organization: University Libraries - Technical Service, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 07:52:35 -0400 
From: "William K. Gentz" <wg0n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Broccoli heads?

     We're trying broccoli for the first time this year, but aren't sure
what to expect.  They've all put out a single "floret" which we've
picked since they were ready to flower, but I would like to know how
those BIG heads are grown.  Is this yet to follow?  Any wisdom?

Thanks!
-Bill
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From: mnc1@quads.uchicago.edu (Matt Carlson)
Subject: Apricots from seed?
Reply-To: mnc1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:34:30 GMT

How does one go about growing Apricots from seed? I do not necessarily
care about the fruit being tasty (though this would be a bonus). Any
assistance would be helpful. I have very little experience with 
this type of project, so don't get too technical. Also, I am in
New Mexico, not Chicago, though my email is there.

Matt Carlson
mnc1@quads.uchicago.edu
From: billd@informix.com (William Daul)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Getting rid of blackberrie bushes forever???
Keywords: exterminate, blackberries
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:25:10 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

How can I ride an area of blackberry bushes for good?  Is there
something I can spray them with that will rid me of them for good?

Thanks,  --Bill

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From: langston@langston.cs.utk.edu (Mike Langston)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Japanese Beetles everywhere
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:40:05 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Tennessee
Distribution: world
Reply-To: langston@langston.cs.utk.edu (Mike Langston)
NNTP-Posting-Host: langston.cs.utk.edu

connie leinen writes:

> I, too, have been waging war with Japanese beetles.  Since I am really
> loathe to use noxious chemicals, I mixed up a really strong soap
> solution (heavy dollop of Ivory liquid soap in a pint sprayer filled
> with water).  Well, it works like a charm.  First the little buggers
> are sort of paralyzed, then the writhe a bit and then they fall off.

be careful, connie

soap is not known to be effective on hard-bodied pests such
as japanese beetles (at least not in concentrations safe for
widespread use on plants) -- even the label on safers does
*not* mention japanese beetles

one must be very cautious with anecdotal data -- i fear that
you are either
   1) mixing much too strong a formulation for general use,
   2) mistaken somehow about your formulation's effectiveness, or
   3) have made a major discovery that the pros have missed ;-)

i suspect the answer is behind door number 1, so watch out
and don't overspray (if your beetle problems are so small
that you are using only a pint sprayer, you might do just
as well with hand picking anyway)

> This method is labor intensive, but I rather enjoy killing the
> suckers, so it borders on entertainment.

alas, i wish someone would "entertain" themselves with the
japanese beetles that *completely* denude the 40-50 ft sassafras
trees we have out at the back of our place -- i just don't know
how much longer they'll be able to survive such annual defoliation

observe natural selection in action, introduce a pest of your
very own today :)

-- mike
From: ajeans@hplred.HP.COM (Albert Jeans)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:43:35 GMT
Subject: Re: Circles of 'shrooms ?
Organization: Hewlett Packard Labs, Palo Alto CA
Newsgroups: rec.gardens

A couple months ago, I saw a circle of mushrooms about 3 feet in diameter, but
this was on a lawn only about a year old. Any explanations?
From: duanej@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Duane Jacobson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:35:04 GMT
Subject: reel-type mowers
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.gardens


I'm thinking about buying a reel-type lawn mower, no motor ... the old push
it yourself kind.  I've got 5000-6000 sq. ft. of lawn to mow.  Answers to
the following questions, as well any other comments, will be appreciated.
If I get a reel mower, I want to get a good one.  There was (a new) one I saw
advertised recently for $70, which sounded pretty cheap to me.

Questions:

1. Which companies make the best mowers?  And what should I expect to pay
   for a good mower?

2. How much longer should I expect to take to mow my lawn, compared to
   a 21" rotary-blade push mower (50% longer, twice as long, etc)?

3. How often should I expect to get the blades sharpened (and how much
   will it cost)?  Could I sharpen the blades myself?  Is there any other
   maintenance involved other than keeping the mower clean and lubricated?

4. Am I crazy to believe that I will want to cut 6000 sq ft of lawn with
   this mower each week?!

Duane Jacobson
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