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From: AS.RAF@forsythe.stanford.edu (Rebecca Fenton)
Subject: Re: The story of Woofer, now looking for a good home.
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:58:07 GMT

My 21 month old Dobie, Surfer Bob, was kennel kept and totally
unsocialized (except for the people at the kennel) until he was 9
months old & I brought him home.  This poor dog had never seen the
sky, a tree or a cat!  Now, I'm not gonna flame his previous owners,
as he was from a narcoleptic dog colony (his gene is dormant).

It took about 3 months of complete loving for him to come to us, and
socialization was of the utmost importance.  He would leap at any
other dog he saw (except for our other dog, a 9 year old
Aussie-mix, KALIEN).

After the 3 month period, we had him neutered and then enrolled him
in an obedience class.  Surfer Bob is the most friendly and well
adjusted dog!  You'd never be able to tell he was not raised "under
foot."  I have had some trouble with neighborhood kids teasing him
through the fence, but once I spoke with their parents, they
stopped.  And during his walks, I always stop at the local
play-ground for him to get petted by all the children there.  I feel
that this training and socialization has made him into a "steady"
(for alck of a better word) and wonderful family pet.  Pretty good
for a once feral animal...


Becky - Mom of Harley, his dog Surfer Bob, my dog Kalien, and Angel
who owns us all...
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,news.answers
From: jm6@ukc.ac.uk (J.Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: SPITZ DOGS
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:02:26 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.



Hello there

I'm new to this group so I hope I don't ask any obvious or FAQs. I am thinking
about getting a Spitz type of dog but they are not that common where I come from
so I can't just ask a neighbour etc. about them.

One major problem I have read about these dogs is there 'Call of the Wild' 
nature, from what I have read the second you let them off a lead they shoot off
only to return several hours later, is it true or does it just happen 
occasionally? It would be a real shame to never let a dog like these have a 
good run about for fear of them never returning.

One other minor point is about their smell, if I understand correctly this type
of dog does not have a particularly 'doggie' smell, is that right or is the 
book I read wrong?

Any reply by email or to this group would be gratefully recieved

JOHN
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,co.general
From: masson@solbourne.com (Bob Masson)
Subject: Re: Front Range heartworm outbreak
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Distribution: co
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 23:38:59 GMT

What are the symptoms of heartworm?  My 1yr old Aussie seemed to come down
with something the other day -- listless and real quiet.  She didn't seem to
hurt in any particular place either.  So, probabilities aside :), can
somebody fill me in on what to look for?
thanks
masson
From: krages@ohsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Spaying My dog
Date: 10 Aug 92 17:48:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohsu.1992Aug10.174815.14616
Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University

In article <19071@drutx.ATT.COM> mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior) writes:
>
>|> I am thinking of having my Bichon Frise Bitch spayed, she is 18 months
>|> old and  I have decided that I do not enjoy showing her as too many people
>|> take it too seriously, The only thing that is stopping me at the moment is
>|> the risk involved, has anyone had a bad experience , I realsie that it
>|> is not a serious operation, and that I am probably been over protective
>|> toward her, but there is still a risk.

We had two show dogs spayed at older ages, a Komondor at age eight and a
Schipperke last year at age twelve, and both operations went well.  The vet was
a little concerned about the Schipperke because she was so old, but there
weren't any problems.

Kathryn Pyle Krages
Oregon Health Sciences University
Portland, OR 97201
krages@ohsu.edu
From: gbelli@opal.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Apartments that accept dogs
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:18:07 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Originator: news@jade.tufts.edu

In article <92233.154513U30644@uicvm.uic.edu>, U30644@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
> Sometime back I remember reading somewhere that there is a list of
> apartment buildings that accept dogs that can be obtained through
> certain rental agencies.
> 
> Here is the situation: I am looking for a 2 bedroom in a quiet area (one
> of the reasons I am moving) and would like to find a unit that accepts
> dogs.  I have been wanting a dog for a long time and I think the time is
> right to get one, and have heard that it is VERY difficult to rent with
> a dog.
> 
> Does anyone have any information on agencies that might be able to help?
> Or has anyone been in a similar situation?
> 
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks!!!
> 
> Joel
> University of Illinois at Chicago
If you go through a real estate agent, you can have her/him give you listings
that fit all of your criteria, including pet-allowedness.  Good luck--I must
have called fifty ads and only *two* would accept pets.  Patience and
fortitude.
From: johnson@hplred.HP.COM (Renee Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Siberian Husky For Sale
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:21:49 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard Labs, Palo Alto CA

/ hplred:rec.pets.dogs / clr60@ccc.amdahl.com (Catherine L Reck) /  2:49 pm  Aug 12, 1992 /
We recently "rescued" a 9 month old male Siberian. The people that had him
could not affort to keep him. He was not mistreated and is in good shape. We
rescued him because he is a puppy out of our male. We have given him all of
his shots, rabies included. He has been flea bathed and wormed. We are getting
him fixed next week, and will also send in his AKC registration.

Sinjin is a black and white male with brown eyes. His markings are very
striking, he looks typically "Innisfree". He is house broken, good with
children (we have a 2 year old), and gets along with our other dogs. He likes 
to pull the dog cart. He is very mellow for a puppy, (but he is still a puppy)
he probably gets that from his sire.

Sinjin is for sale at $250.00 (most of it goes to our costs) to a good home. I 
would prefer a local buyer so you could come to see him. Please contact me via
Email.

Catherine Reck
Siber Kahn Kennel - the kennel kids, Yuri and Khiva (Mikka, Sasha, Hassie)
Khiva Working Dog Outfitters - dog carts, backpacks, harnesses, body leads
----------
From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Subject: Re: David Simmons == net.cop
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Reply-To: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:46:46 GMT

In <1992Aug13.142223.2590@newshost.lanl.gov> davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David Simmons) writes:

>I was flamed, for nothing more than asking him to NOT cross post to
>r.p.d, in the most vituperative, insulting and obscene manner.  When
>I asked him to desist in his flaming, he flamed worse.

Geez, and I recall YOU flaming ME for suggesting that the "Do Dogs
Have Souls?" thread go somewhere else more appropriate after it
because a religious flamewar...

--Cindy

--
Cindy Tittle Moore -- Terrell's Chocolate Deduction (chocolate labrador bitch)

The rec.pets.dogs FAQ -- all eight parts -- is available via ftp to
pit-manager.mit.edu under pub/usenet/news.answers/dogs-faq/*.  There
is a mail server, email me for details.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,rec.pets.cats
From: fstruwe@unlinfo.unl.edu (franklin struwe)
Subject: Re: Introducing Cats and Dogs
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:34:03 GMT

I agree that a male dog will try to be the dominate one.  Our 13 year 
old cat doesn't like the dog, but the 2 year old dog is jealous of the
cat.  He is always being reprimanded for barking, growling, and 
occasionally trying to bit the cat.  I don't think this will ever 
change, but they have only been together for 10 months.

Jacque Virts

**Thank you F John for letting me use your computer**

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: pdsmith.mitre.org (Pat Smith)
Subject: Re: building a fenced in area (was looking for new dog suggestions)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:06:00 GMT

In article <rasmussenc.23.0@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu>, rasmussenc@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu writes:
> 
> Hi folks -
> 
> I was the originator of the "looking for new dog suggestions" post which 
> started the now (in)famous thread about hunting breed usefulness.
> 
> Well, I listened to your comments and suggestions, (and became more educated 
> along the way, I might add), and we purchased a Doberman puppy last 
> weekend. :-)  I was not talked into not getting a hunting breed due to Chris 
> Barnes, et al, but rather because I decided it was much easier on my 
> emotions to try something completely different from our much missed and very 
> special Golden.  Plus, the breeder is very serious and conscientious, is a 
> vet-tech, lives 2 miles down the road from me, and had a pet quality little 
> boy (white spot on chest) ready to go.  (BTW - For you riding enthusiasts 
> who thought I shouldn't get this kind of a dog due to other riders' and 
> hikers' I might meet on the trail who might automatically become defensive, 
> I am not planning on clipping this guys ears, thereby making him look a 
> little more friendly...)
> 
> So, to get to the reason for this post, I was wondering if any of you know 
> of any good sources or have any recommendations for building a sort of pen/
> run for our little Dobe.  Size, shape, materials, etc.  The breeder has a 
> kennel in the middle of her pen, and the pen is only 4 feet high.  I can't 
> imagine that 4 feet of fence will keep a Doberman in, but she obviously has 
> not had any trouble...  I don't want to spend a fortune or a year building 
> this, but I do want it to be a safe and happy (better than being inside on a 
> nice day) for our little guy.  Also, I know if I was building this for my 
> Golden, I would have DEFINITELY sunk the fence to deter digging -- should 
> this be done anyway?
> 
> Well, sorry this is long, but I thought you all might like to know how this 
> all has turned out. :-)  (Haven't had much sleep this week, but hey! who 
> cares?)
> 
> Chris R.
> 
> 
look into an invisible fence.  Its electronic and uses radio waves - its not
electric.  DObes do really well on these and you will probably just need to
use it for a little while.  No risk of harm to the dog or local kids.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: st1ec@rosie.uh.edu (Tse, Oliver)
Subject: A Question about Dogs: Pomeranians
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 06:42:00 GMT

After seeing pomeranians at pet stores, pet shows, in magazines, and books, I
have noticed that their facial features do not look alike.  I have seen some
that have a more pronounced muzzle than others.  Also, the ears seem longer 
on some(do they cut the ears?).  In addition to facial characteristics,
some look like small furry balls with four short legs while others look like 
small furry balls with four long legs(I don't think this is due to grooming).
In any case, how do I know if I am buying a "true" pomeranian.  My previous
dog for 14 years before she passed away was a miniature schnauzer.  In my 
recollection, all miniature schnauzers look more or less alike, but from
what I have seen of pomeranians, this does not seem true.

Can someone explain my observation.  Can it be that so many owners think
that they have a pomeranian, but are blessed with a mixed breed?  In any case,
thanks for your response.  I greatly appreciate it.

Oliver
st1ec@rosie.uh.edu

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Chew Man...
Reply-To: jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:45:15 GMT

In article <22769@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM>, locke@4ccvw54.scg.hac.com 
(Anne Locke) writes:
>Hi!
>
>I was just wondering if anyone out there has purchased the "Chew Man"
>from R.C. Steele's catalog?  We got one for our dogs & they love it!
>"He" is a sheepskin stuffed man about 8 inches tall and has a squeaker
>in his belly.  Whiskey the old Golden & Rio the Ridgeback puppy both
>love their Chew Man.

Well, I *almost* got one the other day! Murphy & I were shopping in
RC Steele (yes it's nice to be so close, and yes I spend too much $$$
on impulse purchases :+) and he snatched one off the shelf.
But, I put it back unscathed - he already has two smaller sheepskin
squeakies :+( - maybe for X-mas...

*********************************************************
* jane jackson and murphy b. lab, Am./Can. CD, CGC, TDI *
* jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu                             *
*                                                       *
* standard disclaimer applies...                        *
*********************************************************
From: jeffp@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Jeff Parke;S10000)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: S**t eating dog
Keywords: Stinky! |~{(>
Date: 23 Aug 92 14:57:57 GMT
Organization: Washington State University

In article <1992Aug22.065246.15519@royko.Chicago.COM> mgm@royko.Chicago.COM (Marty Masters) writes:
>
>The Airedale that owns me likes to nibble goose.poop when she finds it,
>along with eating and rolling in anything just as foul as she can find.
>
>Any way to break her of it?  I'd hate to have to change my lifestyle
>to adopt to hers, but ......

My newf loves goose doo too.  So I tried it.  It's great stuff!
just kidding ;-)
-Jeff
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a.k.a. Jeff Parke,  Washington State University College of Vet. Medicine
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron)
Subject: Re: Dogs Sleep how long...on the average per day?
Reply-To: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:22:00 GMT


In article <1992Aug14.031506.15011@news.Hawaii.Edu>, bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King) writes:
>
>o	Any estimates on how long a dog sleeps each day?
>	thanx
>	wm
>--
>    bill@uhunix.bitnet 
>    bill@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu 
>    21.19 N.LAT by 157.52 W.LONG          
>    Fish on the Byte
>

According to my wife, almost as long as I sleep.  Seriously, I suspect that my
nine-year old pups sleep about 16 hours a day.  But they are ready to go at the
drop of a hat, the jangle of a leash or the shake of a tidbit box.

In the new tradition of r.p.d, let's start a flame war over this  :-)
--
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From: bev@pmafire.inel.gov (Beverly Novak)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: HELP, my dog is digging up my yard
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:03:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: WINCO

Hi

I have a 7 month old Huskey/Wolf/GS puppy.  She seems to like to dig up
my flowers, eat our roses, dig up lilac trees, and many other things in
our yard.

Does any one have any suggestions on how we can breaker of this bad
habit?

I have tried spraying bitter apple on the roses, it seem to help but not
for very long.

Help!!!

Please email me at bev@pmafire.inel.gov

Thanks in advance

Bev Novak
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: surfdog@ossi.com (John Onusko)
Subject: Re: SPITZ DOGS
Organization: Open Systems Solutions Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:42:53 GMT

jm6@ukc.ac.uk (J.Mitchell) writes:
>I am thinking about getting a Spitz type of dog...

>One major problem I have read about these dogs is there 'Call of the Wild' 
>nature, from what I have read the second you let them off a lead they shoot off
>only to return several hours later, is it true or does it just happen 
>occasionally? 

I have two spitz's, a five year old American Eskimo (Spitz) and a four month
old Alaskan Malamute. The A.E. is everything you don't want in a dog - very
loud, aggressive, stubborn, not 100% controllable off leash, and has many 
phobias (i.e. bikes, skateboards, street people). But, he is very affectionate,
clean, and makes a good watchdog. The A.M. (so far) is quiet, friendly, and 
easily trainable. But, he drools by the bucket when hot (even now in S.F.'s 
wintertime :-) and prefers to be outside. I chose him for his temperament, he 
is very calm and so is his father.

My girlfriend's stepmother raised Malamutes and had some stories to tell.
She had unfixed males who tended to fight a lot, and would also run off for
periods of time. Usually, they would kill a rabbit or neighborhood cat and
return. These were strickly outdoor dogs, obedient on leash, wild off.

>One other minor point is about their smell, if I understand correctly this type
>of dog does not have a particularly 'doggie' smell, is that right or is the 
>book I read wrong?

Neither dog has an odor, the A.E. can get really dirty, and a couple of hours
later when he drys off, he is clean again. Dirt just doesn't stick to his coat.
However, both dogs need brushed daily or our hardwood floors look like 70's 
shag carpeting in a few days.
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From: krieger@egnext3.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Karen Krieger)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: FREE German Shep Puppy
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:50:02 GMT
Distribution: usa

> Excuse my ignorance, but what are fallen pasterns?

FALLEN PASTERNS ARE WHEN THE PART OF THE FOOT FROM THE "WRIST" TO THE FOOT  
ARE TOUCHING THE GROUND. 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: seiler@vlsisj.uucp (%)
Subject: Re: looking for new dog suggestions
Reply-To: seiler@vlsisj.uucp (%)
Organization: Compass Design Automation   San Jose, California
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 01:38:20 GMT

In article <1683FE384.X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu>, X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris
Barnes) writes:
>  
> Cindy brought this up too.  The dog's happiness is not the point.
> I would be willing to bet that almost EVERY dog (and almost all people),
would
> be happiest if they could lay on the porch, all day, and do nothing
> but eat and sleep.  The point is that many of the breeds have a
> PURPOSE, and not using them for that purpose will evenutally ruin that
> breed.


Humm - most dogs and most people I know would get bored out of their minds doing
nothing but eating and sleeping.

What about breeds like the Shetland Sheepdog?  The Sheltie is based on the old
working sheepdogs of the Shetland islands but a great deal was done to stabilize
type before they were officially recognized as a distinct breed.  The modern
Sheltie looks more collie-like (not surprising since early Sheltie breeders did 
a number of crosses to Collies).   This wasn't done to improve the sheep herding
ability of the breed but to make them more popular as pets.  So what is the
original purpose of the Sheltie, to be shepherds or to be great pets?

The two different purposes aren't completely at odds with each other.  The
behavior characteristics that endear the Sheltie pet owner today are a legacy of
those old working sheep dogs.  Nor are the uses always different.  A big job of
the old "working" Shelties was to watch the flock in pens and raise alarm if
anyone tried to steal any sheep.  The Shelties I've known take their watch dog
duties very seriously! 

Bruce Seiler
seiler@compass-da.com
From: young@alw.nih.gov (Jeff Young)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Cockers & Hunting (Re: looking for new dog suggestions)
Date: 14 Aug 1992 12:38:20 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

You guys already know this, I think, but your conversation almost
sounds as if your talking about two different breeds here:  the 
English Cocker Spaniel and the American Cocker Spaniel.  If your
asking how many English Cocker Spaniels got a hunting title last
year, probably quite a few.  If you ask the same of American Cockers
there probably weren't any.
-- 
___________	
	jy
	young@heart.dcrt.nih.gov
From: mfriley@pacman.WPI.EDU (Margaret F Riley)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Moving with dog
Keywords: Moving with Border Colllie, need advice.
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:40:18 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute

In article <1992Aug17.203414.3009@digi.lonestar.org> clipford@digi.lonestar.org (Celeste Lipford) writes:
>I am in the process of moving from Texas to the Washington D.C. area.  I
>have a border collie that has never been caged.  Is it best to have
>the dog tranquillized before putting her in the cage ? 
>
>Also, where is the best place to buy an airline cage ?  Is it possible
>to rent one ?

If you have the time, go buy an airline crate (VariKennel is one brand)
and put it out now for your dog to get used to.   (Buying vs. renting--
you know it's clean, it's really cheaper, and then you will have it for
future use.)   Let him/her play in it, sleep in it, eat in it, hide 
toys in it, etc.   

As for tranquilizers, I suggest trying to go without for the dog.  Some
dogs fight more under sedation because they don't feel right and are
frightened.  

Start checking now for direct flights from wherever you are to Washington DC.
This means you don't have to change planes, and maybe you don't even stop
between TX and DC.   Be aware that airlines do have restrictions on shipping
dogs.  You will probably have to reserve a cargo space on the flight.   You
should be able to ship the dog on your same flight, and don't be afraid to
make a stink about it with the airline.   The dog usually gets dropped off
at cargo 2 hours before the flight, so when you are getting ready to board,
insist that the boarding staff call cargo to confirm the dog has been loaded
in the hold.

Other comments?

--Margaret