From: asamonte@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: A better idea than most was (Re: People who take VR too seriously...)
Date: 22 Nov 92 01:31:25 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Nothing worth mentioning...

tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil (Tim Miller) was telling me...
>	Here's the motd from csd.bu.edu of late:
>-
>- Server: csd.bu.edu
>- Message of the Day
>-
>- If you do not connect to this server with a valid user@host
>- you will be /kill'ed unless you have a good reason.
>- 
>- IRC OPERATOR WANTED on trial basis.
>- send EMAIL resume (ASCII only) to irc-op@eff.org
>- for more info: finger hrose@cs.bu.edu 
>- or ftp to cs.bu.edu:irc/support/ircop
>- Closing date: 1 December 1992 at Midnight EST.
>- Interviews will commence online soon after. 
>- 
>- send any problems to hrose@cs.bu.edu
>-
>	And here's cs.bu.edu:/irc/support/ircop:
>
>>Resumes: What I'm looking for: Well, think that you're going
>>for a job and want to make a good impression! 
>
>>Information I'd like to see: Your Full Name & email address. IRC
>>Nick(s). Include any relevant experience you have answering questions
>>(for instance, a student consultant job, working at a help desk, any
>>other relevant previous experience etc). References accepted, also
>>(email references preferred, of course :-).
>
>>Just remember, all of this should be mailed to irc-op@eff.org --
>>submissions elsewhere might be ignored. 
>
>>Submission deadline: 1 December 1992 at midnight EST. 
>
>>Mail any questions to hrose@eff.org
>
>	Now, I (being an *ex* csd ircop) find this *intensely* amusing.
>It's like IRC almost *means* something in the real world.  Resumes?  Get
>real.  References?  Do they want to make sure that the new op won't run
>around exploiting bugs to crash things?  If so, then ckd ought to lose
>his op right now; I've *watched* him do that in the olden days.
>
>	Relevant experience?  *snort*

Now considering this was all my idea...let me defend it.

1) It's on csd MOTD because they only want people local to csd.  How many
   times have you seen opers on a server who are 3 or 4, or even more states
   away?  and usually JUST so they can be oper, even though there is a 
   closer server.

2) I thought of the job format because I didn't like Helen's original idea.  
   It seems this is a more of quality control method.  Helen is looking for
   someone who is genuinely interested in doing it.  Not just somebody who
   want to be an op because it's 't00 k-k00l d00d11!1!11!!'  If people
   send the info to her she doesn't have to wade through most of the bs in
   op request messages.  The most relevent parallel in real life I thought
   of was applying for a job.   Wouldn't you rather have someone who already
   was an op so you don't have to teach them as much?  Or maybe someone who
   has somekind of network experience?  They are not looking for some bozo
   who just wants a * next to his H or G and likes to /kill people.


In my opinion it's just called quality control.  There are already tons
of operators who are just given ops on a whim so they can me one, and 
/kill people or whatever.  That's not what they want.  In the end, it's going
to be their decision.  It's just a way to get the info they are looking for
without having to ask each person for it.  I think you're the one who is 
taking is too seriously.  If they were to say in the MOTD 'We need an IRC
op'  Their mailboxes would be flooded with more requests than they already
are.  If they were to list the kinds of things they were looking for, people
just might tell them what they want to hear.  I figured this way would be
very easy for people to understand.  

-Alex
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