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From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Yet more software piracy
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:10:41 GMT

I'm very disappointed that SoundSmith 1.0 was killed -- I was waiting for
1.0 to come out so I could buy it.  I have some of the shareware prerelease
versions, but was waiting for the final version before buying it, since there
were some problems with the early versions of it.

Piracy sucks.  That's easy enough.  Piracy sucks because, regardless of
what your econo-poliitical views are, we live in a nearly totally capitalist
society.  Jawaid's right: it ain't always pretty, andd it definitely doesn't
always make sense, and it's often unfair, buut so far it's the best economic
structure the human race has come up with, and we have to deal with it.
That means paying for products that aren't free -- in other words, just about
everything.

A lot of people release their software as "public domain", "freeware", or
"shareware".  Thus far, the majority of my work has been in these categories.
Thhose who enjoy copying programs -- go for it!  This stuff is _meant_ to be
passed around.

On the other hand, those who enjoy _piracy_ can go soak their heads in
a public toilet... which they've been doing all along.

- Eric S.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: carndt@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chris Arndt)
Subject: RE: apl2emu
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:36:00 GMT

I asked for Email or pointers to the ms-dos apple2 emulator. Never mind.
I asked archie nicer, and it found it at a bunch of places.
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Unix on GS
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:22:01 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

cdouglas@nyx.cs.du.edu (Collin Broadrick Douglas) writes:

>lpowell@ATL.CALSTATE.EDU (Larry Powell) writes:

>I think this has been discussed before with the general conclusion that it
>would  be possible (lenghty).  The GS could do it (about as well as a 286 
>based PC).

  Well, that's one reason.  The major reason GNO is an extension to GS/OS
is because we wanted to allow you to use existing software, compilers,
development utilities, and take advantage of GS/OS's wonderful multi-filesystem
capabilities, including networking, etc.

>I would personally like to see a port of Minix to the GS.  Gno is great but it
>does have its limitations. 

  Minix can't be ported directly due to hardware differences.  What you'd
end up with is GNO, except that programs could not be larger than 64K.

  What we need to do a true blue *NIX is virtual memory.

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From: jimmys@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Subject: Re: COOL.WORLD files on tybalt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Reply-To: jimmys@ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 30 Jul 92 05:08:30 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.042238.10835@athena.mit.edu> pasqual@athena.mit.edu (Hiroshi Kawai) writes:
>
>Hi y'all, I just had a short question...  Does anyone know what the COOL.WORLD
>files are on tybalt?  I managed to unbinscii the files, but I ended up with
>a binary file which I couldn't do anyting with.  What is it?
>
>						Hiroshi


Yeah, the Cool.World file is a sound file, in raw binary format.  I think
it says something, "We may not seem real to you yet, but we will".


Jimmy
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From: "brian tao" <brian.tao@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: mockingboard
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:26:01 EST
Reply-To: "brian tao" <brian.tao@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

    Does anyone have technical information on the Mockingboard?  Here's
an idea:  write an INIT that would trap Mockingboard calls in certain
ProDOS 8 games and convert it into Ensoniq sounds on the GS.  This would
in effect be a software Mockingboard emulator.
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From: fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Fast Zips
Date: 30 Jul 92 05:32:42 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <uerics.712451998@mcl> uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd) writes:
>There is a timing loop which uses the clock on the ZipGS to calibrate and
>time the ZipGS.  It calculates the speed fairly accurately, but the faster
>the Zip, the worse the results (the error is still in the fractions of a
>megahertz, though, in the 10MHz).

Not sure what the original question was, but once upon a time I yanked the
speed detection code out of the Zip CDA and stuck it into Zippy (a colorful
ProDOS 8 ZipGS control utility).  The source code was distributed with the
program, so if someone wants to see the (somewhat strange) routine, look for
Zippy v1.1 on an archive site (or I can mail it to you in BinSCII format).

>Eric D. Shepherd   | ACM Member | Apple II Alliance Charter Member | 

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[ Above opinions are mine, Amdahl has nothing to do with them, etc, etc. ]
From: toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Fast Zips
Summary: No bottleneck, it seems?
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:00:31 GMT
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC., Orleans (Ont)

Ok, I just got off the phone with Zip...I was interested in knowing whether
one could obtain just the ASIC upgrade, and install the 14MHz 65816, the
crystal, and the faster SRAM oneself. This was in line with the suggestion
someone made here that the gate array was bottlenecked at 12.4MHz or so.
The word from the person I talked to:
 
"The gate array is the fastest thing on that board."
 
In other words, she says that there is no bottleneck, and no ASIC upgrade
is needed. The gate array can go to 19MHz or so. The main problem, she says,
is getting 15ns SRAM in a wide package (I didn't broach the question of why,
if 15ns is needed for 14MHz, they ship 9MHz Zips with 70ns RAM).
 
Of course, she wasn't big on the idea of user upgrades in general, but I
did get her to begrudgingly admit that it was possible (but will certainly
void your 1 year warranty).
 

-- 
Marc Sira               |
toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca  |  "Your god drinks...P-P-Peach nectar!"
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From: milanp@sal-sun13.usc.edu (Milan G. Patel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Clock for Apple //e wanted.
Date: 28 Jul 1992 15:17:44 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun13.usc.edu


I am looking for a clock for my Apple //e.  I would really
like to get one of the clocks made by AE, but I wouldn't mind
even a simple software clock.  Must be in excellent condition
and with manuals.

If you have one that you'd like to get rid of, let me know.


Thanks.


-Milan G. Patel
 milanpat@usc.edu
From: hhuang@husc10.harvard.edu (Howard Huang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Bilestoad
Date: 23 Jul 92 08:02:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc10.HHUANG.92Jul23010243
 <h5dmpaj.payner@netcom.com><1992Jul21.215710.12912@sunb10.cs.uiuc.edu> <6vfmmzb.payner@netcom.com>
Organization: Harvard Arts and Sciences Computer Services, Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: payner@netcom.com's message of 22 Jul 92 14:19:29 GMT

payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:

   >>And why is your 20,000 copy -guess- any better than the hundred
   >>billion dollar losses claimed by the software industry? 
   >>... I do not trust their numbers. 
   >>Now if you actually went out and counted them...

payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) also writes:

   The
   lost profits argument -assumes- that everyone who pirates a program could
   afford to buy is (no lost profits otherwise). I suspect that most of the
   time, this is not the case. 

   And I suspect that the claimed lost profits
   exceed the expendable cash of the American public by an order of magnitude.

Before saying Eric Johnson's "guesses" are unfounded, have you counted
the numbers to support your "suspicions"?



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Question about the smartport...
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:10:16 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Jul24.033112.8121@vela.acs.oakland.edu> mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz) writes:
> 
> Somewhere in our GS reference book(s), I was able to verify that you can
> chain up to four 3.5 drives to the smartport.  However, recent research
> shows the following results:
> 	2 - 3.5 Drives (max)
> 	2 - 5.25 Drives (max)
> 	4 - UniDisk Drives (max)
> 	Maximum # of devices = 4.
> 
> However, there may be a chance that additional 3.5 drives (besides the
> UniDisk) can be chained and recognized by ProDOS 8, it may be a limitation
> of the GS/OS Appledisk3.5 drivers.

Nope.  The Smartport bus can only address two Apple 3.5" drives.  There
are only two "select" lines.
If you tried to plug in more than two, you'd probably find one of the
following situations:

(a) Drives 3 onward wouldn't do anything.
(b) Drives 3 onward all operate in parallel with drive 2.
(c) All odd numbered drives operate in parallel, as do all even number drives.

Either case (b) or (c) would probably damage the IWM chip in the
drives, so don't try plugging in more than two Apple 3.5" drives unless
you want to destroy them.

Similar problems occur with 5.25" drives - you can only have two of
them per slot.

The UniDisk 3.5 is handled differently: it has a microprocessor inside
it, and uses an address byte rather than a select line.  There are 7
bits in the address byte, allowing up to 127 UniDisk 3.5" drives in
theory.  Power supply and signal strength problems limit it to 4 drives.
-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
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From: cust_ts@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Sand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,news.groups
Subject: Re: Comp.binaries.apple2 moderation: why not?
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:14:38 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <9vgm8dc.payner@netcom.com> payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
>>What makes you sure it's moderation that has destroyed the MS-DOS
>>binaries group?
>
>Try reading the .d group. It was really rather amusing.

Great answer. Thanks a lot.

>>3) What (inappropriate) questions have I asked?
>
>As the proposal is to -add- moderation, the appropriate thing to do
>is give reasons for moderation. Asking "why not" completely misses the
>target. And even if there were no good reasons why not, that would not
>be a reason for moderation.

Hm. I thought the charter is full of 'for' reasons...

>Great. More than that, from a post I read yesterday, you seem to be
>a backup (whatrever) moderator. Although I think that having some
>fimiliarity with posting and it's problems would be essential for
>a moderator of the binaries group. 

No way. I refuse to be a moderator, if somebody really has proposed
that. I'm totally unreliable, due to my special condition.
-- 
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From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Music Contruction set to Soundsmith
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:56:15 GMT

In article <53@generic.UUCP> taob@generic.UUCP (Brian Tao) writes:

[ ]
>
>    The pirated copy is perhaps not the sole cause of M. Aalbers not releasing
>SS 1.0, but it certainly played a major role in his decision.  It does not
>appear that Aalbers was overflowing with enthusiasm for the Apple IIGS, but
>this piracy thing probably pushed him over.  I'm quite certain that if the
>beta of SS 1.0 was not uploaded to a BBS (or if Aalbers/SevenHills never
>found out about it), it would be a marketed item right now.

Sure, and you can imagine how well he would have supported the program.
Frankly the GS is better of without it. There needs to be a good, as
opposed to mediocre, sequencer for the GS and a good midi translator. 
If possible a good notational program, assuming MusicWriter is no longer
supported, would also be nice.

In many ways the pirate did everyone a favour. It showed just how much
Aalbers was committed to the program. I, for one, won't miss it. I've 
always considered it junk.
 
Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: isc10327@nusunix3.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE)
Subject: Re: High-Speed Help Needed
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 04:38:02 GMT

Re: Bryan Ogawa

Huh?  Could you kindly elaborate on your point?  Would appreciate if you
could provide the cable pinouts as well.

- DOTW - :)
From: grover@EMUNIX.EMICH.EDU (Grover Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: That darn Diversi-DOS
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:42:33 GMT

For those of you who remember my problem with that strange self-extracting
file a while back...

I'd like to thank Tero for discovering the problem: The line terminators
were LineFeeds instead of the Returns that any Apple II expects.  By
loading the files into WordPerfect, and then re-saving them again as
text files, the problem was quickly cleared up.  They EXEC'ed just fine
this time.

Unfortunately, the file itself is Diversi-DOS, some sort of DOS 3.3
enhancement.  All that work gone to waste.  Oh well...
 _                                                 _
(_) Responses welcomed by grover@emunix.emich.edu (_)
From: daye@JACOBS.CS.ORST.EDU ("J. Q. Gumby")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Hyperc & mousetext
Date: 22 Jul 92 08:21:41 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I have written a program with hyperc (sokoban) that uses mousetext.  To turn 
on the mousetext putchr(27) works just fine, but I think that putting the
vidinv() before the putchr may affect it.  Here's the exact statements I
used:

putchr(27);
page();
putchr(0x06);
vidinv();
printf(".....");

The page just clears the screen and 0x06 makes the cursor invisible.  Neither
has any effect.  I've never tried to disable the mousetext, but I can confirm
that it works.

Evan Day
daye@jacobs.cs.orst.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: GSSymbolix Help
Keywords: How do I use it??
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 07:31:16 GMT

In article <21JUL199208463319@utkvx3.utk.edu> sadasiva@utkvx3.utk.edu (Sadasivam, Krishna Madur) writes:

[Troubles with a GSymbolix demo...]

Make sure you get the version 1.6 demo. There's a nice help setup. This
is one nice program. If you still have trouble plotting e-mail me. However
I assume Henrik will have something to say to you...
 
By the way, there's a very nice scientific calulator available as an NDA.
 
Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: ely@norton.com (Dave Ely)
Subject: Re: Fast Zips
Organization: Symantec / Peter Norton
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:26:43 GMT

johnt@meaddata.com (John Townsend) writes:
> My question is, how does one tell from software what
> the maximum speed of the Zip GS is (e.g. on the Zip control panel)?  Does it
> do a timing loop or is there something on the board that indicates the speed
> (which might have to be changed in addition to the components)?

The CDA and the Control Panel both use a timing loop and _should_ be okay
at much higher speeds. The loop ties itself to both edges of the internal
1 ms clock and should be pretty accurate up to 20 MHz or so.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: HELP!  In need of a GS/OS guru!
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 06:29:44 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Jul24.231745.8940@slate.mines.colorado.edu> gdesroch@slate.mines.colorado.edu (DESROCHERS GARY FREDERIC) writes:
> gopher@bnr.ca (Jeff Robertson) writes:
> : HELP!
> : 
> : So.  What I need is some kind GS/OS guru to bring me up to
> : date.  What does the Key Pointer of a type $5 file point to?
> : Or, more generally, how the heck can I get my file back?
> : It wasn't huge, but I'm more interested in not having a
> : corrupt file on my drive.  (And the pursuit of knowledge...)
> : Oh yes, I'm running System 6 (of course).
> 
>      I not a guru but I try <grunt>:
> 
>      The filetype of $05 is a pascal data file.

NO IT ISN'T!  Type $05 is an "extended" file, i.e. one with a resource
fork.  Type $04 is a "pascal area".

The key block of an extended file contains two mini directory entries,
one for the data fork and the other for the resource fork.  Each of
the forks can be either a seedling, sapling or tree file (storage
types 1 through 3).

Extended files are fully documented in ProDOS-8 technical note #25
(Non-Standard Storage Types).

In brief, the first half of the key block refers to the data fork, and
the second half (at offset $0100) refers to the resource fork.

Each mini directory entry contains the following information:

Offset	Size	Function
+0	Byte	Storage type of this fork (1, 2 or 3)
+1	Word	Key block number for this fork
+3	Word	Blocks used by this fork
+5	3 bytes	EOF for this fork

There may be more information following this, which is the Macintosh
Finder information: this is only present if an extended file was
copied from an HFS disk to a ProDOS disk, and can safely be ignored.
-- 
David Empson

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Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Amiga.FST
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:57:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.155808.14673@edsi.plexus.COM> scottba@edsi.plexus.COM (Scott Anderson) writes:
[ ]

>The Amiga 500 was the best home PC for the price until Amiga dropped
>it.  Now the base 3000's are.  period.  Imagine programming in Text
>mode, starting that to compile, start playing Agony (awsome game),
>pause it when you start dying a lot on level 3, start another game that
>is your personal favorite, get sick of it, then decide it is time to
>call your connection to the net.  Now imgaine this.  All of those games
>would be GAME OVER if you pause them, because they would keep going in
>the background.  Talk about awsome stuff for a $300 computer. 

Has the A500 been dropped? The Amiga is a fine computer but let's not get
carried away. First of all, it doesn't cost you $300 for a usable system.
You are conveneiently forgetting the monitor, more RAM, a possible 2cond
floppy and/or HD. The fact tha it does preemptive multitasking is great.
The fact that the tasks are not protected is not. The A3000's cost far too
much.
>
>Seen the video toaster or impact vision?  24-bit graphics in addition
>to a regular video studio?  (of course that is NOT cheap at $1500, but
>it better than the average TV studio cost of $100,000 for the same
>equipment.  

The video toaster is great, but the $2000 is just the start. You don't get the
equivalent of $100,000 TV studio equipment for that. You need to add a
few things. Still inexpensive, but hardly a home computer item. DCTV is more
like it for the home.
>
>>for the home.  And there is always the I rather buy an Amiga than a Mac, but
>>if my (future) amiga can not work with my GS at all, I would go for the MAC.
>
>Forgetting AMAX II+?  The Color MAC under system 7 emulator?  It can be
>had on software or hardware depending on whether 2-3 Mhz lost to
>putting the code into ram as opposed to using rom on a card.
>The best thing is that an Amiga 3000@33mhz with Amax II+ hardware is as
>fast a mac as a Quadra 950, and when an Amiga (can be both computers
>simultaneously) will blow the socks off of a 950.  Did I bother to
>mention that such an Amiga with Unix in ROM costs about $3900?
>Just a little less than a Quadra 950 with AU/X... hehe

AMAX II+ does not run colour. It uses the 128k Mac+ ROM's. It takes over the
computer completely(i.e. you can't multitask Mac and Amiga programs
together. You are probably thinking of the "vapourware" Emplant product.
There is no such thing as an Amiga with Unix in ROM. The only computer
that had that was the HP Integral many years ago.
>
>Remember,  Amiga is going to release a new computer within a year.
>That means that the price of a 3000 should go down. 
>I need an AMIGA, but for now I stick with my GS at 9mhz/16cache and run
>GNO.  

I would suggest you get your facts straight before making any decisions at
all w.r.t. computer purchasing.

Philip McDunnough
nextwave!seacove!philip@epas.utoronto.ca

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