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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:33:35 EST
Reply-To:     Barbara Smith <HMLBBS1@MARISTA.BITNET>
From:         Barbara Smith <HMLBBS1@MARISTA.BITNET>
Subject:      OS/2, IBM Laser Printer, Postcript

I am not a DTP expert as some of you seem to be.  I am a college
librarian who dabbles in PM4 on my IBM Model 57.

I have just recieved an upgrade for my 4019 laser printer (IBM)
to convert it to a postscript printer.

My Model 57 came with OS/2 so I'm trying to make use of it with
PM4.  So far, so good.  But I am unable to get OS/2 to recognize
that my printer is now a postscript printer.

Does anyone have any insight?  I will try to talk to the OS/2
people, but thought I might find someone on the list with some
ideas.

I hear a lot of bad mouthing of IBM on the list, but we're in
a Joint Study situation with them, and can only purchase IBM
equipment, so we don't have a choice.

Thanks for any assistance you might be able to provide.


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From: bwong@csulb.edu (Bradley Wong)
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Subject: Best setuup for legal-sized booklet?
Date: 30 Dec 92 03:30:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cal State Long Beach


 I am a brand-new PageMaker 4.X user on the PC. I currently
 publish a newsletter (using Ami Pro 3.0) using legal size
 paper -- the end result is two "pages" per each side, with page
 "numbers" offset so that when the newsletter is printed,
 it can be folded up like a booklet. For example, "page 2"
 and "page 15" are on the same side of a legal sheet.

 Is there a better way to do this in PageMaker? Ideally,
 I would like to "fool" PM into thinking that these two
 pages on one sheet really are different -- that way I 
 could take advantage of automatically creating an index.

 What I don't want to do is end up creating a "custom"
 page 1/2 the size of a legal page and run the legal
 paper through four times (front/back - both sides).

 Any suggestions/hints greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 08:10:28 CDT
Reply-To:     Jeff Bone <JBONE@DOPIG.UAB.EDU>
From:         Jeff Bone <JBONE@DOPIG.UAB.EDU>
Subject:      TAN: LaserJet 4M GOOD NEWS!

Great to hear that Tim and Pat are having no ill experiences with their new
LaserJet 4Ms, hope Barry from HP is listening.  It looks like another solid
product from HP.

Although, HP could still stuff my stocking with an eval unit. :)

Have a great Christmas, gang!



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Date:         Sun, 27 Dec 1992 23:35:57 EST
Reply-To:     SC Mgr <scmgr@CABELL.VCU.EDU>
From:         SC Mgr <scmgr@CABELL.VCU.EDU>
Subject:      Sizing down a little... (help requested)

First of all, Happy Holidays!!!  Second, I need a little help:

Scenario: I have a flier (text and graphics) set up for a "larger
          than letter" layout (something like 10" X 12").  I only
          have a letter size (8.5" X 11") paper tray for my printer.

Question: Is there a way to size down the flier (text and graphics)
          through printer options (or other) so that I could print
          the whole flier out, in reduced size, on an 8.5" X 11"
          page?  I could then enlarge it at a local copier to the
          appropriate size needed.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!  Thanks -
____
Greg
scmgr@cabell.vcu.edu
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:33:00 EST
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From:         "SO MUCH E-MAIL, SO LITTLE TIME" <STONEC@IUBACS.BITNET>
Subject: RE: Best setuup for legal-sized booklet

BWONG asks if he can "make booklet" automatically in PC PageMaker 4 using legal
paper.

The answer is NO!

The brand new "make booklet" feature is currently out only in Macintosh
PageMakr 4.2.  I have successfully used it on 8.5 x 11, I think it works on
legal, but haven't tried it.

So Bradley Wong, you'd better break open a new bottle of rubber cement and
paste them up by hand, or take the PC PM 4.0 file to someone's Mac PM 4.2 and
print it out from their computer.

cindy stone

stonec@iubacs
stonec@ucs.indiana.edu
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 12:56:00 EST
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From:         "SO MUCH E-MAIL, SO LITTLE TIME" <STONEC@IUBACS.BITNET>
Subject:      email address

Dear PM Subscribers:

I may not have an email address for Aldus via internet or bitnet, BUT I do have
one for Bill Clinton & Al Gore.  So if you have access to internet here's the
address:

75300.3115@compuserv.com   (internet)

Another friend wrote to it and got a quick reply from one of their
representatives.  So If you' ve been dying to send some email regarding any
other subject of importance to you here's your chance.

Happy Holidaze...

cindy stone
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:35:00 -0800
Reply-To:     u8042014 <u8042014@MIS.NSYSU.EDU.TW>
From:         u8042014 <u8042014@MIS.NSYSU.EDU.TW>
Subject:      print

Dear Subscriber
   I am the user of the Mac PageMaker . I have a program about PM for a long
time .
   When I use the "image control" under the "options" menu to make the graph
light then I sent the graph to the back of the text. and the text is CHINESE.
At last , when I  print it with laserwriter. I often get " print error" or
" interal error" , could YOU  help me  solve the program?


 PS. The version of PM is 3.02

                                   JIA-MIN SHIAU, a sophomo of MIS in NSYSU
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 12:58:37 -0400
Reply-To:     RATUNIL@NYUACF.BITNET
From:         RATUNIL@NYUACF.BITNET
Subject: HELP! QMS 1700.apd

I can't get PM4.2 to recognize the QMS 1700.apd . According to the
documentation, it's simply a matter of dropping the file in the PageMaker's
APD folder.  Doesn't work for me.

Has anyone had experience with this?

Thanks,
--Lu

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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 09:09:52 +0000
Reply-To:     Henry Budgett <henryb@SCO.COM>
From:         Henry Budgett <henryb@SCO.COM>
Subject:      Your Christmas tip!

For those still struggling to get the lettering inside the
Christmas decorations rather than outside I thought this little
snippet might amuse...

It's an oldie but goldie!

Merry Christmas to all and a Happy New Year. Remember: keep using
the shortcuts...


From: Rick_McCormack@mindlink.bc.ca (Rick McCormack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Wrap text WITHIN a graphic: How?
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:30:56 GMT

PageMaker 3 can wrap text within a boundary box.

Create the box, just as normal (RTM) at the location where the
text will be placed. Fold the box over. (oh, sure!) To do this:
grab the upper left corner of the bounding box, and drag it
across the right hand edge of the bounding box, placing it about
one-half-inch below the existing upper right corner. Repeat with
the lower left corner, placing it about one-half-inch ABOVE the
existing lower right corner. Pull the original lower right corner
fully over to the left; do the same with the original upper right
corner. (Note that is the original--as drawn-- right corners,
which, by the time you do this are now the lower and upper left
corners.)

You can now shape the bounding box, and any text you type in it
will conform to the shape you create.

This procedure is outlined somewhere in the book USING PAGEMAKER:
MACINTOSH VERSION, 2nd Edition. Published by Que, ISBN
0-88022-607-2, 1990. Oh, yeah--here it is, page 234. --

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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:36:00 EST
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From:         "SO MUCH E-MAIL, SO LITTLE TIME" <STONEC@IUBACS.BITNET>
Subject:      PM 5.0 ??????

I read a press clipping that said that Aldus just announced the release of
PageMakr 5.0 and would begin shipping on January 6, 1993.  Is this true?
Or are the report of it's distribution greatly exxagerated?

Has anyone else heard this?  More info from anyone would be appreciated....

Thanks -- PM Listserv Management
(and we can't stand to be in the dark!)
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From: bwong@csulb.edu (Bradley Wong)
Subject: Re: PM 5.0 ??????
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 17:42:14 GMT

In article <PAGEMAKR%92123115415289@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU> "SO MUCH E-MAIL, SO LITTLE TIME" <STONEC@IUBACS.BITNET> writes:
>I read a press clipping that said that Aldus just announced the release of
>PageMakr 5.0 and would begin shipping on January 6, 1993.  Is this true?
>Or are the report of it's distribution greatly exxagerated?
>
>Has anyone else heard this?  More info from anyone would be appreciated....
>

  According to PC Week and InfoWorld, PageMaker 5.0 will be unveiled in January.
  Shipping date of 1-6-93 seems optimistic. They mentioned that the Mac version
  will ship 30 days AFTER the Windows version. Price has been raised to $895
 (to match Quark) and upgrades will be in the $75 to $150 range.

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Reply-To:     nwilson@YUMA.ACNS.COLOSTATE.EDU
From:         nwilson@YUMA.ACNS.COLOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      TAN: Graphics software

What graphics software do you recommend for basic desktop publishing?
What do you use, and why you do you like it? I'm interested in both
Macintosh and PC platforms. I use PageMaker 4.2, MacPaint and MacDraw
on a Mac IIcx with a Radius FPD monochrome monitor and a LaserWriter IIg.
You probably can't get more basic than that.

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Nancy Wilson, Publications Editor
Academic Computing & Networking Services
Colorado State University
e-mail: nwilson@lamar.colostate.edu
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jan 1993 12:00:15 -0500
Reply-To:     Felix Sung <fsung@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
From:         Felix Sung <fsung@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      .apd for HP LaserJet 4M (Mac)?

Greetings from the land where the sun never shines, because if it did,
the NDP government would slap a tax on it! ;-)

Now that I've got my LaserJet 4M - a WONDERFUL printer, IMHO, I'm
wondering whether the friendly folks at Aldus have released an .apd
(Mac) for the thing, or whether they're planning to pull a Microsoft
and release only a .ppd, thereby forcing everyone who wants to use
the LJ 4M to upgrade to PM 4.2 - the long-desired and long awaited 5.0
still being long-desired and long-awaited. (The LJ III.apd works with
the 4M, but I'm getting tired of the "If you have trouble printing to
the LaserJet 4M..." dialog box.)

If an .apd is available for the 4M, where I might look to find it?
I've checked the usual suspects: info-mac, wuarchive's mirrors,
CompuServ, AOL, etc., and, as of 12/30/92, found nothing.

Thanks for your help.

Felix.                            _ _
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Reply-To:     "Charles C. Schneider" <SDZ5@IAEA1.BITNET>
From:         "Charles C. Schneider" <SDZ5@IAEA1.BITNET>
Subject:      Wanted: Suggested books for DTP class

Howdy,
I'll be teaching a class on DTP at a University here in Vienna,
and I was interested in any books that you might feel are best
for the class.

I've taught the class already using "Using PageMaker 4 for Windows"
by Que publishers. The class was o.k., but the book really bombed.

The administration has asked that the students learn PM, basic
design and publishing. This will all be done on PCs running Windows.

A book that I'm interested in foisting on my students is "Publishing
in the Electronic Age" (or something like that) by Jan White. Can
you tell me of other books that may better and/or a PM book that
would do the job?

Thanks for the help. BTW, this should probably be sent to me
personally so the list doesn't get cluttered. With that in mind,
I'd like to ask the list to tell me if they're interested in hearing
the results. If I'm overwhelmed with responses, I'll post the results
along with a plea for mercy.

Ciao4now

Charles C. Schneider
International Atomic Energy Agency
Vienna, Austria
sdz5@iaea1 (bitnet)
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From:         Jim Charles <JIM@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Cardnal Video

Anyone out there have a 16bit Cardnal Video Card?


Jim Charles
Computer Data Systems Inc.
Naval Surface Warfare Center
Crane, Indiana
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Subject: Your Christmas tip!
Distribution: world
Date: 22 Dec 92 02:10:00 EST

Hi Henry,

Thanks for the tip. I am using the PC platform. I am not
sure what you mean by RTM in yur text below. Do you
know if this is the same on the PC as it is on
the mac platform? Thanks for your help!!!

 -> Create the box, just as normal (RTM) at the location where the
 -> text will be placed. Fold the box over. (oh, sure!) To do this:
 -> grab the upper left corner of the bounding box, and drag it
 -> across the right hand edge of the bounding box, placing it about
 -> one-half-inch below the existing upper right corner. Repeat with
 -> the lower left corner, placing it about one-half-inch ABOVE the
 -> existing lower right corner. Pull the original lower right corner
 -> fully over to the left; do the same with the original upper right
 -> corner. (Note that is the original--as drawn-- right corners,
 -> which, by the time you do this are now the lower and upper left
 -> corners.)

 -> You can now shape the bounding box, and any text you type in it
 -> will conform to the shape you create.

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From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The deluge part 3
              "Michael H. Bloom" at Dec 21, 92 12:25 pm

>
> Well, don't just stand there, SHOOT THE VIDEO! :-)
>
> Sonia, it is now time for you to take the bull by the horns, and mess around
> on your guitar without benefit of further instruction. Do something wildly
> unlikely, and then figure out what else you'd have to do do make it musical.
> Break all the rules, and then make a way cool mosaic out of the pieces. Make
> it a goal that you should be able to show your teacher something absolutely
> stunning by the next time you see him. Listen to the Sonny Sharrock records,
> not so you can figure out what he did, but so you can figure out why.
>

Hey thanks--it's fun when whining pays dividends.  Yes, this is good advice.  I
like the idea of breaking all the rules.  My worst playing is when I try to do
what I think is "expected" of a guitarist.  If I think purely rhythmically
rather than melodically and get into a totally wild and irresponsible frame of
wind (which is of course VERY HARD for someone like me to do), then
occasionally some fun stuff happens... though I never know what I did, but I
guess that doesn't matter.

And Rev, yes, I would like tape 2 of Kenton!

Isn't it great to say goodbye tearfully to the net and then post again two
minutes later?  OK, this is for real,,,,,,,,,,,,BYE

Sonia (I'm going out to California)
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 05:09:20 KST
From:         DMetcalf%IC-LOG@WALKER-LTT.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      GROOVE-DOLL

HEY, schwester, just WHERE wuz th' beehive, && were those the
SEE-THRU plastische boots?

ZZAJ
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From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: female rock bands

>Marsha, a moderately intellegent....

  A moderately *what* ?    :-)

                       -Tim
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From:         Mick Jeffries <MICK.JEFFRIES@UKWANG.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      re: Is this a foreign lan

I asked Adrian Belew about both of those things after a Bears show here in
 Lexington Ky once:  Thela Hun Ginjeet is "Heat in the Jungle", a popular
 Belewism, also made reference to on solo material.

Matte Kudasai is japanese for "please wait".  Ain't that sweet?  Incidentally,
 he was fab on the last solo tour (Inner Revolution, I guess).  Anybody catch
 it?

Mick Jeffries (All I want for xmas is a new King Crimson ensemble)
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From: jamshed@SYSTEMS.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (Jamshed Masood)
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Subject: top of the pops
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:20:49 GMT
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Hi,
I am not sure if this is the right list to ask for this info, but can
somebody pass me a list of the top 100 pop songs of 1992 and 1991.
thanx


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From:         Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Lenster and the Big Guy
              22 Dec 1992 13:04:53 -0500 from <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>

On Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:04:53 -0500 Russ Gelinas said:
>in the case of a "Piss Malcolm", is to dismiss the arts community out of
>hand as a collection of nothing more than PC knee-jerks.  If that's what
>you believe, ok, fine, but I do not agree.  If anything, I've found that
>group of people to be among the most insiteful wrt. social issues.

I have a problem with a bottle of piss being art, if that's art you should
have seen the masterpiece i dropped this morning.

I personally have no problem with an artist (applied lightly) wants to stick
a bullwhip in his ass and call it art, but being a taxpayer i don't want to
fund his perverted excursions.................L.W.
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 14:04:41 CST
From:         Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      The Chipmunks

Listening to the Chipmunks do the Christmas carol kinda thang, i got to
wondering if you listened to them on a turntable at a slower speed would
they sound normal       .

Picked up a used copy of Little Village (Ry Cooder, Keltner, Hiatt) and as
someone has already mentioned, it's hard to beleive that that's the same
"crew" that did John Hiatt's Bring The Family...Little Village is not much
worth listening to....IMHO..............L.W.
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jan 1993 17:46:21 KST
From:         DMetcalf%IC-LOG@WALKER-LTT.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      TAPES

Just checkin'... did all who requested them get the tapes I mailed out
to you for review?  If so, please let me know... I'm putting the layout
together right now for the next issue of my 'zine!

THANKS!

ROTCOD ZZAJ
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