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From: mingos@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: talk.environment,sci.environment,sci.energy
Subject: Re: Notch another one up for the Greennazis
Date: 11 Nov 92 08:00:59 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1992Nov9.034442.12361@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>, constant@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Tino) writes:
> 
> Just reported on CNN:
> 
>      The Greenpeace ship following the shipment of plutonium from England
> to Japan has collided with the craft in the English Channel. Those were all
> the details given at the time. 
> 

   Surely France to Japan?
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:31:12 EST
From: <MEK104@psuvm.psu.edu> Mark Kubiske
Newsgroups: talk.environment
Subject: Re: How much forest cut down yearly?

ikle@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Matt Ikle) in article Message-ID:
<1992Nov6.151840.12738@schaefer.math.wisc.edu> writes:

>Does anyone out there know how many acres of forest are cut down in the US
>every year?  I'm trying to find this out for a student of mine.

>Thanks.

>Matt Ikle

I'll see if I can find the stats you want, in the mean time:  2,558,025 acres
of trees were planted in 1991 on all ownerships in the US.  In the 5 years
from 1987 to 1991 a total of 14,869,817 acres were planted.  In your state
of Wisconsin (my home state), 1,284 acres were planted from October 1990 to
September 1991.

I'll try and track down the timber harvest data for you as well.

Mark
From: "nigel allen" <nigel.allen@canrem.com>
Subject: environmental awards
Reply-To: "nigel allen" <nigel.allen@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: talk
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:25:46 EST

Here is a press release from American Forests.

 National Environmental Awards To Be Presented Friday
 To: National, Business and Assignment desks
 Contact: Dan Smith or Lori Wright, 202-667-3300, both of
          American Forests

   News Advisory:

   Event:    Press briefing and tree planting to outline the
             tremendous growth of environmental partnerships
             for trees and to introduce the winner of the
             first Geo Award for Environmental Excellence for
             the outstanding local tree organization and Global
             ReLeaf's award for individual environmental action.

   When:     Friday, Nov. 6, 12:15 p.m.
             (Luncheon to follow at the Willard Hotel,
             Pennsylvania Ave. and 14th Street, N.W.)

   Where:    South side of Ellipse (Constitution Ave. at
            16th Street, N.W., Washington)
             NOTE: CHANGE IN BRIEFING/PLANTING SITE
             A press table will also be set up outside the ballroom
             at the Willard Hotel beginning at 8:15 a.m.
             In case of heavy rain, briefing is in the Willard.

   Who:      Neil Sampson, executive vice president, American
               Forests;
             Frank Raine, director area marketing, Chevrolet;
             Jim Perkins, General Motors vice president and
               general manager, Chevrolet Motor Division;
             Michael Rains, associate deputy chief,
               U.S. Forest Service;
             Claudine Schneider, former member of Congress;
             National Award Winners (Call for details)

   Details:
   Reporters are invited to the day-long meeting with scientists,
business executives and environmentalists as they examine the crucial
role of partnerships in reconciling environmental improvement and a
healthy economy.  Paul Solman, business reporter for the
MacNeil/Lehrer Newshour, will lead a roundtable discussion at
2:30 p.m.  A banquet and awards ceremony will begin at 7:30 p.m.
-- all at the Willard Hotel.  Sergei Goryachev, morning news anchor
for Moscow One Television, is the keynote speaker.
   The Geo Award for Environmental Excellence was created by the
Chevrolet Geo Division of General Motors, American Forests and the
U.S. Forest Service to annually recognize the exemplary tree group.
The Global ReLeaf Jean Giono Award for individual achievement is
sponsored for the third year by Chelsea Green Publishing of Vermont.
   American Forests is the nation's oldest citizen's conservation
organization and creator of Global ReLeaf, the international
education and action tree-planting campaign that is pioneering
public/private partnerships for the environment.
 -30-
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Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: harelb@math.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: talk.environment
Date: 06 Nov 92 21:26 PST
Subject: IBM Women Chip Workers / Glycol Eth
Nf-ID: #N:9211070525.AA25607@tba.msi.corne:-788148554:000:594
Nf-From: math.cornell.edu!harelb    Nov  6 21:26:00 1992


From: harelb@math.cornell.edu (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator)
Subject: IBM Women Chip Workers / Glycol Ethers / Miscarriages


    "vast majority of workers at risk from exposure to glycol ethers
    are women and workers of color"
 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    "[..] similarly, non-whites account for 53.9 percent of the
    operatives, yet they held only 27.4 percent of the overall high
    tech manufacturing jobs in 1990.

[Via misc.activism.progressive from LaborNet's labor.toxics]

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[...]

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From: Carrying Capacity Network <ccn@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: talk.environment
Date: 05 Nov 92 14:07 PST
Subject: Global Communications query
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1483100129:000:159
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!ccn    Nov  5 14:07:00 1992


We're trying to locate a group called "Global Communications,"
presumable different from "Institute for..."

Any help?

Steve Coffee
Carrying Capacity Network

Newsgroups: talk.environment
From: teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima)
Subject: Re: NEWS: "Rainforest Wood Out of Hollywood"
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:27:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.212421.20102@CERIS.Purdue.EDU> jheath@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Jim Heath) writes:
>
>Beg your pardon, I was referring to a piece I saw the other night
>where Greenpeace (I believe) was ramming someone's (Japan's?)
>fishing boats because they didn't like where/how they were
>fishing. 

Please don't lump all environmental organizations together. Greenpeace
does not condone violent confrontations, but passive resistance
(albeit with lots of publicity). 

Also, you seem to be misinformed. Greenpeace was accused of ramming a
Japanese vessel carrying plutonium as it was getting shipped out of
the French waters. It was NOT a fishing boat. Greenpeace has denied
this, alleging it was the Japanese vessel that rammed them. Judging
from Greenpeace's nonviolent tactics, I tend to believe them. Also, I
think Greenpeace would've admitted to ramming the Japanese vessel, had
it done so. It would not have denied it in that way.

The environmental organization that is known for ramming fishing
vessels on purpose is the Sea Shepherd, whose founder broke off from
Greenpeace because it wasn't radical enough.



--
A. Lani Teshima (teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu)       o | /_/_/ "Sea Hare"
Student, UH School of Library & Information Studies     o|<0_0>--------*
A small mind is easily filled with faith.                 \=^-| |____| | 
Blessed is a mind too small for doubt.                        \_}B   \_}B
Newsgroups: talk.environment,sci.energy
From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
Subject: Re: Notch another one up for the Greennazis
Followup-To: talk.environment,sci.energy
Reply-To: jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
	<1992Nov9.145946.4373@inel.gov> <Jym.12Nov1992.0901@naughty-peahen>
Date: 12 Nov 92 10:22:13

Many of us consider that it is "Speak lies to power".  Moreover, Greenpeace
has the money and publicity to be a considerable power itself and uses
it for bullying people whose livelihoods they decide to interfere with.

The slogan "Speak truth to power" expresses arrogance as to who has
the truth.
--
John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
*
He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.

Newsgroups: talk.environment
From: parson_r@cubldr.colorado.edu (Robert Parson)
Subject: Re: Ozone Depletion
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:00:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.205157.4666@samba.oit.unc.edu>, london@sunSITE.unc.edu (Larry London) writes:
> In article <1dmr37INN9rd@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> billings@geop.ubc.ca writes:
>>Could someone tell me the name of the chemical used in the agricultural industry
>>that is said to cause ozone depletion at a rate of three times more than CFCs are
>>said to.   A description of its use, manufacturer and any alternatives would also
>>be appreciated.  My email address is billings@geop.ubc.ca    Thank-you
> 
> Methyl bromide, a soil fumigant (to kill weeds, nematodes, etc.) usually
> dispensed from aerosol containers underneath plastic sheets covering
> planting beds, typically tobacco seedlings; a highly toxic gas.
> 
 I don't know what precisely is meant by "a rate three times more than CFC's".
 _Molecule for molecule_, Bromine is 10-50 times more efficient as a catalyst 
for ozone depletion than Chlorine. However, there is much less Br than Cl in the
 stratosphere, and anthropogenic sources comprise a smaller proportion of the
 whole. (Total Stratospheric chlorine is 3.5 parts per billion, of which
 ~2.9 comes from CFC's and related compounds; total Br is 20 parts per trillion,
 of which ~8 are _estimated_ to be anthropogenic.) Last I heard (this spring)
 it was not clear how much of the methyl bromide was anthropogenic and how much
 was natural, although natural sources were believed to dominate. (I don't have
 any figures handy for the contribution of Halons to the total strat. Br. I
 believe it is less than methyl bromide but not by a huge margin.)

 In any event, the _total_ contribution of Br compounds to ozone depletion is
 not three times that of chlorine compounds. Standard references (e.g. 
 Wayne's _Chemistry of Atmospheres_, 1991) give 5-20%, which is the sort of
 thing you'd get by playing with the above numbers. The April NASA press
 release asserts that Br and Cl were contributing about equally to the
 ozone depletion over the Northern Hemisphere, which suggests that the
 older figures should be revised upwards. (One must keep in mind that 
 there are many distinct mechanisms for halogen-catalyzed ozone depletion,
 and their relative importance depends on temperature and other local factors.)
 The major Bromine-catalyzed pathways actually include both Bromine and
 Chlorine, so reducing stratospheric chlorine will slow them down as well.

 Robert
Newsgroups: talk.environment
From: downey@ils.nwu.edu (Greg Downey)
Subject: Re: Environmental Databases ?
Followup-To: talk.environment
Organization: Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:06:34 GMT

In article <pope.1.721610173@slab.unt.edu>, pope@slab.unt.edu (TIMOTHY
POPE) wrote:
> Does anyone know where to find databases that contain information on the 
> environment ??  What about BBS that are environmentally oriented ??

A good source is _EcoLinking: Everyone's guide to online environmental
information_ by Don Rittner (1992 Peachpit Press), $18.95 paperback.  Check
your library!

(No, I don't have any financial interest in this.  I saw the book, liked
it, and bought it myself.  That's all!)

-- GREG       Practice random               ONE PENNY SHEET
              kindness and senseless        PO BOX 641342
              acts of beauty                Chicago IL 60664-1342
Newsgroups: talk.environment,sci.environment,sci.energy
From: kudzu@netcom.com (Michael Sierchio)
Subject: Re: Notch another one up for the Greennazis
Organization: True Love, and Home-Grown Tomatoes
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:03:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.145946.4373@inel.gov> dpe@inel.gov (Don Palmrose) writes:

>...  The end result is if Greenpeace is not careful on how they operate 
>their ships, the Japanese will be well within international law to take them 
>to court for intentional violations of the international rules-of-the-road.

Actually, if they persist, they can be sunk -- with impunity in the law, if
not the court of public opinion.

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Newsgroups: talk.environment
From: napalm@next06pg2.wam.umd.edu (Warren L. Mohn)
Subject: Re: Notch another one up for the Greennazis
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:09:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.221451.5280@inel.gov> dpe@inel.gov (Don Palmrose)  
writes:
> the Greenpeace ship (I beleive it was Greenpease) still entered the  
area.
> A US Naval ship warned her to leave and when she did not, employed  
various
> methods to sucessfully keep the ship away from the test.  It was  
strikingly
> clear that the Greenpeace ship was acting illegally by being in the area  
and
> refusing the lawful orders of the US Navy vessel.  But Greenpeace reason  
was
> that their actions superceeded the rights of the US Navy to freely test 
> their weapon systems *in accordance to all international laws*.  In  
summary,
> Greenpeace was completely and absolutely wrong in this case.
> 
> Just thought you ought to know the whole story.

Yeah, your right, we should let the government or corporations do whatever  
they think is best and right for the great unwashed citizens of the world.   
And we should never take direct action against them.  That would be BAAAD!   
Working within the system has it's place but so does direct action, and I  
for one applaud Greenpeace's action in this case.  

---------------
warren mohn
napalm@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: talk.environment
From: ikle@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Matt Ikle)
Subject: How much forest cut down yearly?
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 15:18:40 GMT

Does anyone out there know how many acres of forest are cut down in the US
every year? I'm trying to find this out for a student of mine.

Thanks.

Matt Ikle
Newsgroups: talk.environment
From: dpe@inel.gov (Don Palmrose)
Subject: Re: Notch another one up for the Greennazis
Organization: INEL EG&G Idaho
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 14:59:46 GMT

In article <JMC.92Nov8204409@SAIL.Stanford.EDU>, jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy) writes:
> 
> They tried to get between the plutonium ship and its escort, got
> bumped and accused the Japanese of brutality or something
> like that.  I assume the reporters on Greenpeace boat will tell
> the story the Greenpeace way.
> 
> They are better than the terrorists - somewhat.
> --
> John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
> *
> He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
> 
> 
> 

Let's try to remember that their are international rules governing the safe
navigation on the open and coastal seas.  A ship cannot just go willy-nilly
anywhere it wants to travel.  Who ever was in charge on each ship must know
and understand this.  It is something that Greenpeace has convienently over-
looked in the past because "their protest is above international law" type of
attitude.  The end result is if Greenpeace is not careful on how they operate 
their ships, the Japanese will be well within international law to take them 
to court for intentional violations of the international rules-of-the-road.

I speak from prior knowledge since I was at one time a qualified Officer of
the Deck in the US Navy and had to understand completely all such international
laws and fully comply with them at all times.

Don Palmrose


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Newsgroups: talk.environment
From: "nigel allen" <nigel.allen@canrem.com>
Subject: auto emissions tests
Reply-To: "nigel allen" <nigel.allen@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: talk
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:25:46 EST

Here is a press release from the Natural Resources Defense Council.

 NRDC Praises EPA's New Auto Emissions Tests; Criticizes
Implementation Delay
 To: National Desk, Environment Writer
 Contact: David Driesen or Sarah Silver of the Natural Resources
          Defense Council, 202-783-7800

   WASHINGTON, Nov. 5 -- The Natural Resources Defense Council 
(NRDC) praised EPA's new standards for testing and repair of 
automobile emissions controls issued today as a result of an NRDC 
lawsuit demanding timely action on this important clean air
program.
   "The government got under the hood and fixed it.  Tens of millions
of people will breathe cleaner air when this new emission testing
program takes effect," said NRDC attorney David Driesen.
   The new program requires improved testing equipment and separates
testing of cars' emissions from repair.  NRDC hailed EPA's decision
to separate vehicle testing from the repair business.
   "Fifteen years of experience has shown that combined test and
repair just does not work.  Under the old program, mechanics had an
incentive to fail cars that should pass.  And, a mechanic had an
incentive to pass a car once he worked on it, even if the problem was
not fixed," Driesen said.  "Under the new program, test-only centers
will secure large smog reductions at the lowest cost to car owners."
   NRDC did criticize provisions in the rule which allows states to
delay implementation of the testing program for years.  "Delaying
full implementation means that people in the nation's urban areas
must wait years before they breathe clean air," Driesen said.  "We
urge states to take prompt action to get the new testing centers up
and running."
 -30-
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Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: billings@geop.ubc.ca (Ian Billings)
Newsgroups: talk.environment
Subject: Re: Ozone Depletion
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:09:27 GMT
Reply-To: billings@geop.ubc.ca
Followup-To: talk.environment
Organization: Geophysics & Astronomy, U.B.C. Vancouver, Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: epoch.geop.ubc.ca

Could someone tell me the name of the chemical used in the agricultural industry
that is said to cause ozone depletion at a rate of three times more than CFCs are
said to.   A description of its use, manufacturer and any alternatives would also
be appreciated.  My email address is billings@geop.ubc.ca    Thank-you
Newsgroups: talk.environment
From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
Subject: Re: Notch another one up for the Greennazis
Reply-To: jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
Date: 13 Nov 92 07:41:01

After the ships get out in the open Atlantic, I would favor the
Japanese saying, "If you don't stay away, we will sink you."  Since
the Greenpeace ships are charter Dutch seagoing tugs (ah, what
money will do for a cause), and their crews did not sign up to
die for Greenpeace, they will leave when threatened.  Greenpeace
will huff and puff, but that would end the matter for now and
the Greenpeace publicity machine would have to find some other
material.
--
John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
*
He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.

Newsgroups: talk.environment
From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
Subject: Green Election Results
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:14:23 GMT

Here are some results from Green Party candidates.  Many more candidates ran
than this.  I will post them when I get them.

/* Written  9:21 pm  Nov  4, 1992 by smauvais@igc.apc.org in igc:green.general */
/* ---------- "Election night results" ---------- */
California Election Results

-- HR 5 Sacramento

Dem1Matsiu*    D    151,558   69
Dinsmore       R     55,428   25
Mors           A       4508    2
Rufer          L       4337    2
HARTER         G       4147    2


-- HR 22 Santa Barbara

Huffington     R    120,356   53
Ochoa          D     82,137   35
LORENZ         G     22,216   10
Dilbeck        L       7040    3


-- HR 25 Northern LA County (Antelope Valley, Northridge)

McKeon         R    104,552   51
Gilmartin      D     67,687   33
Pamplin        AI    13,104    6
WILKEN         G       6464    3
Christensen    L       6444    3
Lawrence       P       4782    2


-- HR 27 North LA Suburbs (Burbank, Pasadena)

Morrhead*      R     95,169   49
Kahn           D     78,559   40
MOORMAN        G     10,312    5
Edwards        P       6853    4
Decherd        L       4427    2


-- HR 28 Arcadia, Pomona and Claremont! :-) 

Drier*         R     112,90   53
Wachtel        D     72,177   37
SHEABY         G       5869    3
Domnity        L       4022    2


-- HR 30 Northeast LA

Becerra        D     45,502   59
Waksberg       R     18,150   23
BONPANE        G       5852    8
Nakona         P       5729    7
Consalvo       L       2059    3


-- HR 36 Manhattan Beach, Torrance

Harman         D    117,202   49
Flores         R     10,062   42
GREEN          G     12,413    5
Staley         P     12,413    2
Denny          L       5088    2


-- HR 51 East SanDiego County (Escondido, Encinitas)

Cunningham*    R    125,913   56
Herbert        D     77,023   34
Clark          P       9052    4
Holmes         L       9322    4
ROE            G       4796    2


-- HR 52 La Mesa El Cajon
Hunter*        R    101,936   52
Gastile        D     80,878   42
Shea           L       6292    3
GRETSINGER     G       5281    3


* - Incumbent
A - American Idenpendant
D - Democart
G - Green
L - Libertarian
P - Peace and Freedom
R - Republican


From New Mexico (near Santa Fe, I think):

Abraham Gutmann (State Rep, District 42) got 40%
Andres Vargas (District Attorney, District 8) got 42%.



-- 

		dingo in boulder	(dean@vexcel.com)
Xref: sparky talk.environment:4566 sci.environment:12683 sci.energy:5350
From: london@sunSITE.unc.edu (Larry London)
Subject: Re: Ozone Depletion
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:51:57 GMT

In article <1dmr37INN9rd@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> billings@geop.ubc.ca writes:
>Could someone tell me the name of the chemical used in the agricultural industry
>that is said to cause ozone depletion at a rate of three times more than CFCs are
>said to.   A description of its use, manufacturer and any alternatives would also
>be appreciated.  My email address is billings@geop.ubc.ca    Thank-you

Methyl bromide, a soil fumigant (to kill weeds, nematodes, etc.) usually
dispensed from aerosol containers underneath plastic sheets covering
planting beds, typically tobacco seedlings; a highly toxic gas.
From: harelb@math.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: talk.environment
Date: 05 Nov 92 20:14 PST
Subject: TRADE NEWS:MAQUILADORAS DON'T FOLLO
Nf-ID: #N:9211060424.AA14513@poly.math.cor:961186308:000:603
Nf-From: math.cornell.edu!harelb    Nov  5 20:14:00 1992


From: harelb@math.cornell.edu (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator)
Subject: TRADE NEWS:MAQUILADORAS DON'T FOLLOW REGULATIONS 


    MAQUILADORAS DON'T FOLLOW REGULATIONS  
    Of six majority U.S. - owned maquiladoras surveyed by the U.S.  
    General Accounting Office (GAO),  none had done Environmental  
    Impact Assessments (EIA's).  EAI's are required by  Mexican  
    law.  Some plants had  also been allowed to start operating  
    before it was issued an operating permit. 

[....]


TRADE NEWS BULLETIN 
Monday, November 2, 1992 

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