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From: lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson)
Subject: True OSU-Michigan story
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 18:05:10 GMT


The following is a true story (well, sorta) from the days of Woody and Bo:

   Back in the days of Woody Hayes and Bo Schembechler, there was a 
particular year when OSU and Michigan were about to play in THE game.  
Both teams were undefeated so the winner of the game would go to the Rose
Bowl.  Tensions were high, and the teams were calling each other names all
week.  Woody decided that something had to be done about this.  So, Woody
challenged Bo to send any player he wanted into Ohio Stadium that friday
night to get in a fight with an OSU player.  This, he hoped would relieve
the tensions.  Well, Bo and his team were sitting outside the gate, when
Bo decided to send in a linebacker to fight for him, the toughest man he 
had.  5 minutes went by, then 10 minutes, and nothing was heard from the
linebacker.  Bo began to get worried, so he sent in his offensive line.  
20 minutes went by, and still nothing was heard from them.  Getting a bit
frustrated, he decided to send in his entire 1st string defense.  15 more
minutes went by, and nothing was heard.  Wondering what in the hell was 
going on, Bo gathered the rest of his team and decided to march them all
into the stadium to see what was going on.  Suddenly, one of his cornerbacks
comes running out, cut up and bruised to hell, screaming "GO BACK!  IT'S A
TRAP!  THERE'S TWO OF THEM!!!"


More:  

Q: Why can't Michiganders lay out on the beach?

A: The cats will bury them


GO BUCKS!!!!!! BLUE SUCKS!!!!!!

Pat Lawson
From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: 4 YARDS AWAY FROM SYRACUSE UPSET.. MIAMI, 16-10..
Date: 22 Nov 92 00:34:17 GMT
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: delarocq@c00523-118rd.eos.ncsu.edu




 I CAN"T BELIEVE IT!!! 5 SECONDS TO GO, AND GRAVES COMPLETES A PASS TO THE
FOUR YARD LINE, NO TIME OUTS!!!!! MIAMI WINS 16-10... UGH!! UGH!! UGH!!!!!


 
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Hungry for some fish.. Monday Night Football, November 16, 1992..

If you are a Buffalo Bills fan, email me at delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu
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If you are a Packers fan, let me know. I am interested in any news
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From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Re: Holiday Bowl (Illinois or MSU)
Organization: American Math. Society
	<1eeie1INNaiq@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:01:11 GMT

In article <1eeie1INNaiq@agate.berkeley.edu> clarko@liszt.berkeley.edu (Clark Olson) writes:

   In article <steph.722125364@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu> steph@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson) writes:

   >>According to the Tribune, Wisconsin is the #2 Freedom bowl choice, behind
   >>Utah.  Utah would have to beat BYU to go, which only happens in years
   >>ending with '8'.  :->  So the Big 10 could send five teams this year.

   >The worst thing about this travesty is that Iowa signing with the Copper
   >Bowl likely took away any chance Washington State (currently 7-3) has of
   >going to a bowl game.

The Copper Bowl is Washington State's only chance?  That IS sad.  They
deserve some sort of bowl game for the fine year they've had.

   >It looks like one of the worst conferences (Big-10) will have at least as
   >many bowl teams (4 maybe 5) as the best (Pac-10) which will now have only
   >Washington, USC, Arizona, and Stanford in bowl games.

C'mon, bowl people, SOMEONE pick Washington State.  




-Alan Harder
 American Mathematical SOciety
 Michigan Fan
 Drinker of Anchor Steam
From: bonacci@ecf.toronto.edu (BONACCI John)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: ILLINOIS MIRACULOUSLY TAKES OVER #1 SPOT IN AP POLL!
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:31:58 GMT
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility

...just kidding    =8^)

Being up here in the GWN, I'm not sure if this week's polls have
come out.  Have they?  I cannot recall seeing them posted in the
600 or so postings since I started checking Monday.  If they were
posted and I missed them, would some kind soul please repost them.

Thanks.
JB
From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: For U.W. Huskies
Date: 24 Nov 92 05:28:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Nov24.011012.25634@mdd.comm.mot.com> behzad@mdd.comm.mot.com (Behzad Khamneian) writes:
>  If you paid any attention to the option plays, Brunell would take the ball
>himself, because the Cougars had cornerback Torey Hunter (#24) going straight
>at Kaufman on almost all of the option plays.  A gain of 2-3 is better than
>a loss of 5 or a fumble.  Arizona also snuffed out the UW option game with 
>a good defensive game plan.  They would have 2 linebackers of a linebacker 
>and a DB go after BRUNELL and Kaufman.

Yes, but Brunell was getting pretty good yardage when running the option
most of the game.  Do you think Hunter was supposed to zero in on Kaufman
on the option because they were scared of his ability, even if that
meant a 5-7 yard Brunell run?  Maybe.  Maybe its a lot different in
college, but in high school as a tight end I was taught to just cream
the QB and not worry about the back, so the QB would pitch and it was 
no longer an option.  But, then, if Hunter always keyed on Kaufman
it wasn't much of an option, and 5-7 near the middle was better than
the possibility of more outside.  Still, it seemed to me that someone
was blowing his coverage to let Brunell make so much option yardage,
but maybe I'm missing something here.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Fight songs
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:52:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.004648.5747@ncsu.edu> jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN  
GREATHOUSE) writes:
> 
> How about this version of the University of North Carolina's fight song:
> 
> Across 10,000 Durham ditches, there is a place called hell
> Where 10,000 son's-a-b****es call it Chapel hill

I'd post the Duke versions of some of these fight songs, but
they'd be mostly **** anyway.

> I'd like to see some "adapted" versions of other school's rival's
> fight songs.  It could make for entertaining reading.

I'll mail you (or other interested parties) these songs.  But not
on the net.

Orin
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From: mgriffin@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Mark Griffin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Great Big 8 QBs
Date: 19 Nov 1992 11:46:58 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

marko@IMD.Sterling.COM (Mark Olson) writes:

>In a recent followup, I asked about the status of some of the great OU QBs and
>I got to thinking that there have been a lot of great QBs in the Big 8, what
>course did their careers take, and what are they up to now?  I've started a
>list, anybody know about these players? Anybody have anybody to add?

>   John Hadl - KU alum - Former AFL Start QB with the Chargers
>                         Currently on KU ADept Staff - Fundraiser

>   Bobby Douglas - KU Alum - ??

>   Jerry Tagge - NU alum - Former NFL QB, Packers?
>                           Currently a Businessman in Omaha, NE

>   Jack Mildren - OU alum - ??

>   Lynn Dickey - KSU alum - Former NFL QB, Packers?

>   Thomas Lott - OU alum - NFL???
>                           Holds an elected office in Okla, Preacher

>   Darien Hagen - CU alum - NFL with whom?

>   Turner Gill - NU Alum - CFL QB with Montreal,  Minor League Baseball
>                           Player, Coached at various colleges.
>                           Currently QB coach at NU
>   
>   Mike Gundy - OSU Alum - ??

>   Jamelle Hollieway - OU Alum - Knee injury 
>   
>   Charles Thompson - OU Alum - Prison Term
>                      JUCO Student, JUCO QB
>-- 
    I haven't seen any Missou QB's listed yet, of course not many Missou
    players would be condidered great.  But, How about Phil Bradley, became
    an Outfielder for Seattle, then bounced around awhile.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich)
Subject: Re: Miami scheduling again
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:14:58 GMT

ncovey@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (neil covey) writes:

>Miami may be the best there is right now, but aside from
>Washington ducking them for one of the Pre-Season "classics" this year,
>I'd be more willing to bet that teams would want them on their schedule.
  Coach Erickson is against pre-season classics so I doubt UDub ducked them !

>The SEC certainly tried to get them in
>the conference during the big expansion mania of a couple of years ago.
  As has been said a 1000 times, the SEC NEVER asked Miami to join !!!

>Speaking of such things.  Which poll takes precedence the AP or the
>Coaches?  In one Fla St. is #3 in the other AM is.  Assuming Bama loses
>a game (which is possible given the SEC championship game they *have* to
>play--no ducking possible) who does Miami play assuming all three
>(Canes, Noles, and Aggies) win out?  It seems just last week that the Canes 
>were talking of ducking AM should they be the highest ranked team out there
>in favor of playing Nebraska in the Orange Bowl  (ducking for bucks in
>this case, not out of fear).  Now, it seems they may have to play Fla.
>State in the Fiesta, and that they'd be only too willing to play AM in
>the Cotton (evidently ducking for bucks takes a back seat to playing the
>same good team twice in one season).  So what gives?
  According to the Alliance if 2 teams from the ACC,BIG E,or ND are ranked
  #1 and #2 in the 'AP' poll , they will play in the Fiesta Bowl.
    - there is no 'out' clause for this case.

  A final question - don't you believe Florida State would have a lot
  more to gain than Miami by meeting in the Fiesta Bowl ???


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From: pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn)
Subject: Re: Small college in Penn
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:14:32 GMT

In article <4157@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM> sstasuke@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM (Steve
 Stasukewicz) writes:
>
>A while back somebody posted an artcile about a college named Slippery
>Rock.  Does anyone know if there is a team in the same conference that
>starts with the letters "Shippen...." Can't remember the exact name.
>It's a small college in Pennsylvania.  Also, does anyone have the
>standings for that conference that they could post or email to me?

Shippensburg.  I think the conference is the Pennsylvania State Athletic 
Conference, and is divided into two divisions.  I don't know the standings, but
I think that Clarion won the Western Division, and West Chester the Eastern.

PDunn
From: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Rutgers/Independence Bowl/UVa question
Date: 17 Nov 1992 12:41:30 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: shab06.larc.nasa.gov
Originator: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov

In article <1992Nov16.201459.15552@walter.bellcore.com> kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge) writes:
>Also, do any of the UVa people (Charlie or Jay?) know which bowl UVa is 
>being considered for and what reps will be at this weekend's game in 
>Blacksburg?  This game is a MUST WIN for UVa (6-4, five 1-A victories) 
>if it has any post-season aspirations.
>
>Still, I have a slight hunch that the Independence Bowl people might be 
>looking at UVa as well as Rutgers to fill a slot, although I'm not 
>altogether sure.
>

Kevin, the only bowl that I have heard mentioned as a possibility for
UVa is the Independence. In fact, last week I heard speculation of
a UVa Vs. Southern Mississippi matchup if both teams could beat
Virginia Tech. I do not know what bowl scouts will be in Blacksburg
on Saturday - Independence scouts were not at the UVa-NC State game
two weeks ago. 

-- 
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U.Va. School of Engineering, Class of 1990  VV VV   1992 Women's ACC BB Champs.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: betz@gozer.idbsu.edu (Andrew Betz)
Subject: Re: First round surprise (prediction)
Organization: SigSauer Fan Club 
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:01:08 GMT

In article <DOEL.92Nov23155428@bbq.bae.bellcore.com> doel@bae.bellcore.com (Michael Doel) writes:
>> that is, he's too SHORT (what is kirk, 5'9"?  maybe 5'10"?).
>
>He's 6'2" 212lbs which is certainly tall enough to play in the NFL, though

wow!  i blew that one.  i coulda sworn i'd heard he was a short guy,
as in under 5'10".  huh.  anyhow, i still think, despite his wonderful
mobility, he's a little too erratic of a passer to go as a first-rounder
in the NFL.

drew 
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From: mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak)
Subject: Re: FSU info
Organization: Landmark/Zycor   Austin, Texas
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:00:59 GMT

In article <11385@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> poore@dirac.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore) writes:
>

[stuff deleted]

>
>Incentives for ND? Orlando is a larger city, easier (cheaper) access for
>their team. Don't have to play in Doak Campbell (which IS an
>intimidating road game). Lou Holtz is chickenshit. Lou Holtz wants a
>free trip for his family to Disney World. 

I don't think Lou schedules the games.

>
>David Poore
>poore@dirac.scri.fsu.edu
>
>


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Newsgroups: osu.sports,rec.sport.football.college
From: pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn)
Subject: Re: no respect for tOSU
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:52:10 GMT

>In article <1992Nov23.132620.9158@cis.ohio-state.edu> atchison@kingkong.cis.oh
io-state.edu (Mark Atchison) writes:

>>And while I'm at it, how about the classy whine-job by Moeller in the postgam
e?
>>
>>Crying about the wet field?  Didn't we play on the same one?  Moaning about
>>crowd noise (which was awesome -- the loudest I've heard in the last 40 or so
>>games in the 'shoe)?  Sure it was loud, but you come out looking pretty silly
>>when your quarterback tells the press that it wasn't a factor.

I'm suprised he didn't try to blame it on the streaker:-)

PDunn
From: chen@a.cs.okstate.edu (SMITH LISA MIN-YI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: OU over OSU woof
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:03:38 GMT
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater

In article <1992Nov13.213733.22015@spdc.ti.com> dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Bill Dostalik) writes:
>Useless, if you're not an OU or OSU fan, I guess.  I was just trying to get
>a response from a poke fan.  But those are few and far between.  
>I suppose you're right, it was useless.

Why respond to a 'useless' article?

Whatcha think about OU going for the tie instead of the win?  Kinda lowering
your standards, huh?

- lisa
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson)
Subject: Re: AP make FSU #3
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:02:12 GMT

jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett) writes:

>News-Software: NN 6.4.16

>AP

>1. Miami
>2. Alabama
>3. FSU
>4. Texas A&M

>FSU jumps over Texas A&M, with a blow out with Tulane.

>Well the polls MO POINTS rule raises it's ugly head again.  With FSU and
>Bama both playing Florida, it will be a shootout for MO POINTS. The most
>POINTS could get the #2 spot. Both Bama and FSU will be taken out the big 
>stick for Florida.  Florida will not go down without a fight, and Spur's
>throwing his visor many times.

>Florida could still win the SEC by beating Bama.  But, right now it looks
>like gator hunting season.

>Texas A&M is not happy about the AP polls, but are still in the race.   
>Unless, FSU makes it to #2 and meets Miami in the Fiesta.

Would Miami play fsu again,  they have nothing to gain from it the way I see
it.  They beaten them once, why should they have to have a rematch.  They
should go on to an another UNBEATEN team.  Then they can prove or disprove
how good the other unbeatens are.  No reason to rehash old games.

Todd

(And to think I used to like fsu, even during the CB last year.:(:( )

>One thing for sure the bowl alliance is working.  But, we still need a
>playoff system, this MO POINTS rule sucks.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Rutgers in a bowl ?
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:03:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.201916.857@cbfsb.cb.att.com> 5rtrtrt@cbnewsf.cb.att.com  
(richard.e.stealey) writes:
> > 
> 
> Students at Rutgers are talking about a possible bid by the Liberty
> bowl, in adddition to the Independence bowl.  

A year with so many Big-10 disappointments that Rutgers may
have to go to two bowls.  Ouch.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: Rutgers/Independence Bowl/UVa question
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 14:22:44 GMT

In article <1eap9rINN711@rave.larc.nasa.gov>, cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell) writes:
|> 
|> Kevin, the only bowl that I have heard mentioned as a possibility for
|> UVa is the Independence. In fact, last week I heard speculation of
|> a UVa Vs. Southern Mississippi matchup if both teams could beat
|> Virginia Tech. I do not know what bowl scouts will be in Blacksburg
|> on Saturday - Independence scouts were not at the UVa-NC State game
|> two weeks ago. 

I guess we'll know more as the game approaches, but my initial guess was
that the Independence Bowl would be interested in either taking UVa (with
a win this Saturday) or Rutgers (almost guaranteed a win vs. Temple barring
a major upset).

So Va Tech could possibly play a part in Rutgers chances of going bowling
(however not the most comforting thought for RU fans, given our team's 
track record this year...).  Stranger things have happened, however (like
the 50-49 game on Halloween).

|> Charlie Cockrell                          VV     VV 1991 Men's Soccer Champs.

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From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: *the* battle for LA! + sunday norming QB
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:48:40 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: what.. me.. organized?


o One of the biggest rivalries in all of college football came down to a 
  great finish. Words can hardly describe the game. 

o That was a battle royale between the #3s of each team, Convay vs. Gray.

o The UCLA off line did a fairly good job of protecting Barnes from 
  #55 McGinist, who was a terror to almost every team USC had played.

o 6 catches for 269 yds and 3 long TDs by JJStokes. 

o USC got burnt for blitzing once, no.. twice.. no.. thrice too often.

o Why does ESPN keep parading these old geezers (the C-man and Beano) who
  have little or no clue what the f*** they are talking about?

o Once again, Mr. C-man, Mr. Cook: Torreta had 80 yds passing vs. PSU. He
  played like crap vs FSU. The defense saved his butt everytime. 

o Liked that comment by Craig James that Torreta should buy each one of
  the defensive players a statuette.

o The best QB in the country probably plays for Fresno St [Trent Dilfer].

o Don't blame John Cooper for not going for 2 with 4.5 mins to go. I would
  have made exactly the same call. I have seen too many college coaches go for
  2 too early in a game and put themselves in bad situations, when a 1 pt
  kick would have been damn helpful in the end.

o You can't put that much pressure on Cooper to win, and yet expect him to
  roll the dice with a 2 pt conversion. The difference in college football
  and the pros is that college coaches can afford to be more daring and
  take chances [unless you are in the Big10, where coaches have to sign a
  contract that they will continue the tradition of dull, dreary games..
  but I digress] since they have relatively more job security.

o Compare that Big10 attitude with the Wacky Wac. Take, for example, 
  the SDSU-FresnoSt game. Yikes..  I had barely settled down to watch. The
  score was 7-7 only 52 secs into the game. 

o Marshall Faulk was the difference in the game. He didn't play with a 
  sprained knee. SDSU lost. No Holiday Bowl. No Bowl unless they beat Miami
  next week. Unless Faulk plays, they dont have a chance. He will have an 
  MRI today to check for any internal damage.



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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Does tie cost OU shot at Oranges?
Reply-To: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:40:41 GMT


I am now wondering.  Does the tie have the effect of costing OU the
Orange Bowl if they beat NEB.  I think beating OSU and NU puts OU and CU
at 5-1-1 each, who would have received the berth?

Murph