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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:10:06 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 12:20:07 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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From: ez002983@othello.ucdavis.edu (Zahid Ali)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Browns #17
Summary: Let the kid wear it
Date: 15 Dec 92 09:07:13 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In article <1992Dec8.192140.4122@vax.cns.muskingum.edu> riser@vax.cns.muskingum.edu writes:
>What do you think about Todd Philcox wearing Sipe's number(#17).  Come on you
>die hard Browns fans.  I don't think he should be able to wear the number of
>one of the best QB's in Browns history.  Let's get it changed...Long Live the
>Kardiac Kids!

I remember the kardiac kids fondly, and I agree that Sipe was the best 
QB we had had in a long time.  But in my mind, retiring a number requires
more than just being one of the best Browns QBs - you have to be one for
the ages.  ie, even Kosar is marginal as far as I'm concerned.  Sorry,
but getting your number retired, that's big time.  Remember, there are
only so many numbers reserved for QB and kickers, so to avoid that sticky
running-out-of-numbers situation, we have to be VERY picky.

zahid
ez002983@hamlet.ucdavis.edu

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From: asgari@tac22.net.com (Asgari Roger)
Subject: Re: BEST team wins Re: Dallas vs Skins
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Redwood City
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:01:44 GMT

In article <3136@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writes:
>I sorely hate to do this, since it means that I will be skipping articles
>by others besides Mr. Gloria, but I have to add
>
>	/jpglori/a:j
>
>to my kill file, to kill anything and everything that has his text in it,
>so as to keep my blood pressure down and get rid of that crick in my neck
>I've developed from shaking my head at his stupidities.  Until now, all
>I had was
>
>	/jpglori/h:j
>
>which only got rid of the articles he personally wrote (Cowboy fans -- indeed,
>fans of any rational discussion at all -- take note).
>
>Daniel Welch


	HERE! HERE!!!

Roger Asgari.
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From: bohnert@leland.Stanford.EDU (matthew bohnert)
Subject: More non-kickers kicking
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 01:58:59 GMT

Dan Pastorini used to punt for the Oilers in addition to QBing, although
nobody but old-time Oiler fans seem to remember this.....

During a Redskin-Bear playoff (?) game in about 1985, Theismann 
volunteered to punt after the regular kicker was injured.  He booted
a 1 (that's ONE) yarder.

Also, didn't Danny White mention one time (early on is his career, I think)
that his goal was to be the NFL's best passer AND punter?

Matt
From: smm@rodan.UU.NET (Steve Mansfield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: THE FOOTBALL GODS HAVE SPOKEN!!!
Date: 14 Dec 1992 11:12:34 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

In article <1992Dec14.000132.16735@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA) writes:
>
>2nd & 7, ball on 5 yard line, Aikman set to pass while
>in end zone and the ball comes loose. The SKINS
>recover! FUCKING TOUCHDOWN!!!  THANK YOU FOOTBALL GODS!!!
>Aikman fumbles the BALLLL!!!!!   CRYING TIME AGAIN!
>
>Do we want INSTANT REPLAY NOW!!!!! Homey thinks so!!

Looking at this play several times, I agree that based on the rules *as
they currently stand* I agree that it could not have been ruled a fumble
(Not that you'll *ever* hear me complain about the result of said bad
call though).  John Riggins said something on the radio I agree with,
though.  The rule should be changed such that if the ball's still in the
QB's hand - it's a fumble.  A quarterback can use a pump fake to avoid
fumble rulings.  I have to agree with this idea.

>Bottomline: fuck you, you whining, wimpy cowpussies. you
>will be crying for the next 7 days! 

Hey, chill.  O hate whining as much as the next guy, but they have a
legitimate cause this time....

Steve Mansfield                   Junior AlterNet Engineer 
smm@uunet.uu.net                  uunet!smm
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA)
Subject: Re: Home field in the NFC
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:59:54 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.002038.3238@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>In article <1992Dec13.235928.1@vxcrna.cern.ch> bonvicin@vxcrna.cern.ch writes:
>
>>It is possible that the 9ers are not much better this year than last year,
>
>Are you nuts?  Ricky Watters by himself makes this a better team.  The OL
>is playing better.  The offensive squad had adapted to Young and is the
>best in the game.  Special teams is better.  The fans are noisier.  The
>beer is colder and the cheerleaders are hotter -- oops, got carried 
>away.
>
>The Niners are much better than either of the last two seasons' versions,
>mostly due to a credible running game.
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You say credible! Now that is an understatment. How about
outstanding! Shit, Watter is out and Amp Lee just runs for
134 yards and two TDs! It is a roller-coaster ride into
the playoffs. GO NINERS.
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From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Benchmark = OJ
Date: 16 Dec 92 02:05:19 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Dec15.220452.15916@asl.dl.nec.com>
nix@aslslc43.asl.dl.nec.com (David Nix) writes:

> I think you are right.  I believe Jim Brown owns the record for most yards per
> game during a season, but it was during a 12-game season earlier in his career.
> Perhaps that is why everyone (including me) thinks he did it in 12 games.

Nope...OJ has that one too.  143 yards per game in the 2,003yd season
in '73.
Brown's best year for yardage per game was 133 per game in '63 (the
year of his best total yards/year: 1,863).  The stat that a friend and
I argue over from time to time is that in '73, OJ averaged 6.0 yards
per carry.  In '63, Jim Brown average 6.4 yards per carry.  If Brown
had carried the ball 332 times like Simpson did in '73, Brown would
have piled up a whopping 2,125 yards in 14 games!  I know this doesn't
mean shit, but it's always a good stat to toss out in the heat of an
Simpson/Brown agrument...

One mark that will be hard to eclipse is Jim Brown's career mark of
5.22 yards per carry.

> I wasn't around to watch Brown, but I remember OJ, and there has been none
> like him in my time.  I remember one classic Simpson outing: he rushes for
> 275 yards including a long run where he made a 90 degree cut through the
> line at full speed and was 5 yards behind the safties before they could
> even turn around.  He scored 2 TDs, and Buffalo lost 28-14.

I agree with you, Dave...OJ was one of the most electrifying runners
every to play the game.  I can even remember when he played at USC
(yep, I'm that old...God, how he could make a tackler miss!  Oh, and
sorry to be so picky, but I believe the game you are referring to was a
loss to Detroit in 1976 where OJ ran for 273 yards...Buffalo lost
27-14.

The best single rushing day for a RB...Walter Payton, 275 yards against
Minnesota in 1977.  

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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Lee....Touchdown 49errrrrrrs!
Keywords: nowworshipmoranow
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:39:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: .

Zimmers writes:
>
>>BTW, (oops, caps lock) at the end of this game and on his way off the field,
>>Siefert was looking over at a crowd of players and media. It appeared that he
>>was very concerned about what was going on over there. What was going on, and
>>did the Vikings' coach ever get around to shaking Sieferts' hand?
>
>Don't know the answer to the first question, but yes, George and Denny
>Green met on the field for the handshake and congratulation. The Niner
>organization breeds them classy.

They obviously have a separate kennel for breeding net.whiners. (i.e.,  JPG)
(I will say Bob Marshall, as a NinerFan, has redeeming net.social value)

BUT Puuuuhleeez.  Spare us the drool....

>-- 
>Michael Zimmers

NOWWORSHIPMORANOW
VIVA SAINTS!
--J.J.
(i have a jade sculpture of marv levy on my coffee table)
From: debry@dirac.scri.fsu.edu (Ron DeBry)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: WILDCARDS, READ THIS!
Date: 16 Dec 92 01:21:36 GMT
Reply-To: debry@dirac.scri.fsu.edu (Ron DeBry)
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

In article 1@pembvax1.pembroke.edu,  harper@pembvax1.pembroke.edu writes:
>In article <Bz9q53.B9B@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, nrau@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Nicholas Naveen Rau) writes:
[...]
>Also, picture this.  If (big IF) Washington Wins the next two and Dallas
>lossess its next two (its possible) .  They will both have a 11-5 record, so
>who will win the Division?  Could be very interesting!


Well, since Dallas has yet to clinch the division title, I'd have to
guess that Washington would win in this scenario.



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From: huot@cray.com (Tom Huot)
Subject: Re: Vikes question
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: 16 Dec 92 09:31:40 CST

Satish Nair (satish@a.chem.upenn.edu) wrote:
: 
: I hate to interrupt all these 49er-Cowboys, Vikes-Packer cross flames but
: I'd like to discuss some football if it's okay with you.  The Vikings of
: the late 1980s were a great team on paper:  they had a Pro Bowl quarterback,
: a defense which dominated (and was 1 sack away from the NFL record) and
: a bevy of great wide receivers.  So how come they never made it to the Super
: Bowl?  Could any Vikes fan out there provide a *quick* summary of what 
: happened in their playoff appearance during this time?  Thanks,
: 
: satish nair
: bitter & twisted giants fan
: 

I think it was Jerry Burns. But then again that is only my opinion.

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From: ash@sad.hp.com (Jim Holsenback)
Subject: Re: Superbowl
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:48:49 GMT
Organization: HP Sonoma County (SRSD/MWTD/MID)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

	Wow! What planet are you from?
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From: michaelh@netcom.com (Michael Hernandez)
Subject: Re: Watters status????
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:23:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.012232.2156@leland.Stanford.EDU> daveshao@leland.stanford.edu (David Shao) writes:
>In article <102370@netnews.upenn.edu> satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>>
>>Watters is still complaining of sores.  But why start him and risk further
>>injury?  Amp Lee has done a great job gaining over 100 yards against a D
>>which has not allowed a 100-yard rusher all season.  A backfield of Watters
>>AND Lee... hmm, now that should give defensive coordinators fits through the
>>playoffs.
>
>The 49ers would not for a moment think of this backfield combination this
>year, or any year in which Tom Rathman is a 49er.  Rathman is one of the
>finest fullbacks in the league, and the perfect fullback for the 
>Walsh offense.  An essential weapon of the Walsh offense is the sweep
>and Rathman consistently delivers the blocks to spring Watters.  
>Would Watters be blocking for Lee on the sweep?  It certainly wouldn't
>work for Lee to block for Watters.  Rathman is a sure-handed receiver
>who can make spectacular catches such as his one-handed grab in the
>Super Bowl against Denver or his diving catch for a touchdown this
>year.  He is the running back the 49ers trust most not to fumble,
>as evidenced by their giving him the ball on the second to last play
>of last Sunday's game against the Vikings.  He is their short-yardage
>back near the goal-line, getting low to the ground and almost burrowing
>his way through.  I remember a dive of his this year which was called
>a touchdown where the replay clearly showed that his knee was down,
>but the way in which he dove fooled the official.
>

Mike Shanahan and George Siefert both intimated after the 
Vikings game that they are working on serveral plays in which
Lee and Watters could be used in the same backfield.  Every thing
you say regarding Rathman is true, however, given the complexity of 
the 49ers offensive scheme, Rathman is not in on every down.  The
9ers could use Lee and or Watters in the Slot in a 4 wide out
formation or in a formation that features a single back(Shanahan
was installing plays with the single back formation for Keith 
Henderson; Henderson was traded to the Vikes, so he abandoned
the idea.  The emergence of Amp Lee gives Shanahan the type
of back he now can utilize in this schema.)

michael

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From: mrt7455@evtprp0b.UUCP (Michael R Tucker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Waitin' Until Next Year
Keywords: draft, prediction, bold
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:35:37 GMT
Reply-To: mrt7455@evtprp0b.UUCP (Michael R Tucker)
Organization: Boeing Computer Services Everett Propulsion, Everett WA

In article <1992Dec10.140716.11235@athena.mit.edu> centry@athena.mit.edu (Jae H Nam) writes:
>Don't be so sure.  Currently in the battle for the worst NFL
>record and the #1 pick, the Patriots are tied for the lead
>with a 2-11 with Seattle.  However, because of the head-to-head
>loss to Seattle, the Patriots have the edge in case of a tie.


uh, that's the common thought on the tie-breaker for first pick, but
it is not correct.  It is strength of schedule, and *I THINK* the team
with the weakest schedule pickes first.

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From: icsu0182@cs.montana.edu (Sean)
Subject: Re: Heisman.. what a farce.. Faulk was screwed
Organization: Montana State University, Dept. of Computer Science, Bozeman MT 59717
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:56:29 GMT

In article <42494@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi) writes:

Don't apologize about putting this here!  Football is football is football!  
Besides, the Heisman is going to predict if Toretta gets drafted in the 12th
round of next years draft, or the 8th round.  Since he won, I'll say mid 8th!

>Faulk:  
>
>1600+ yds rushing. Granted, he played in the WAC. But look 
>at what he did in *BIG* games.

What does this have to do with anything, being in the WAC.  Look at the WAC. 
They are PASS, I repeat PASS, happy in the WAC.  For a RB to put up 1600+
yds in a pass oriented conference, now that is something!  

I think that value to the team should also be taken into consideration, and 
if he was at Miami, better coverage, and also, he is just a Sophomore!!!


>Torreta:
>
>Yes, he's got the stats. 3000+ yds. Bunch of TDs. 7 INTs. But what did
>he do in the BIG games.
>
>        PennSt: 80+ yds
>	Syracuse: 300+ yds, 0 TDs, 3 INTs
>        FSU: I don't know, but tell you what, I saw that game and
>             he really stunk up the joint that day. 
>             
>What a joke. This guy ain't the best QB in the country, let alone best
>football player. 
>
>They keep pointing to his 25-1 record. Why are they including last year's
>record? This is not a lifetime achievement award. This year 11-0. They
>say, he just wins. Miami wins bcoz of the DEFENSE, NOT TORRETA. So why
>not hand over the Heisman to their LB Barrow who seemed to make every big play
>in those 3 games [I still can't forget his tackle on a 4th and 1 in the
>PSU game on his own 10 yd line. Speed!].

And last year, Matthews got busted down because he is a "Product of the System".
Boy, if anyone is the product of a good offensive system, this guy sure as hell
is the all-time winner!!!

>Hearst:
>
>1500+ yds, [thats less than what Faulk got in 2
>fewer games], 21 TDs. What did he do in big games?
>
>        Florida: 40+ yds (60+ yds catches)
>        Miss (or was it MissSt?): 40+ yds
>	GTech: 100+ yds
>
>Not Heisman material. 1500+ yds in the SEC. But mostly against weak SEC teams.
>When it came to producing big against strong SEC teams? naw..

Boy are you wrong!!!  Hearst is a great runner.  Just look at his avg. yard
per carry.  Anyone that puts in over 7 per carry is some pretty good back in
my book, and 21 TD's, like that is something to sneeze at!!!

Just my $.02...

Reido


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From: rolandb@phx.mcd.mot.com (roland blackwell)
Subject: Lott/49ers
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Tempe, Az.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 01:00:20 GMT

Ronnie Lott has stated he doesn't want to play for the Raiders next year.
He sayes he would like to play for San Francisco again. Does anyone have
any new news on this.  His contract is up and he will leave the Raiders.
I certainly hope he gets to play for the 49ers again.  Maybe we will get
to see another back-to-back 49er SB victory. YES I SAID IT.

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From: Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.cis.YALE.EDU (ALN - Go Giants!)
Subject: Re: A Saints Fan's view on the playoffs.
Organization: Yale University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:03:38 GMT

In article <15085.2b2bf8bf@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>From: vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
>Subject: Re: A Saints Fan's view on the playoffs.
>Date: 14 Dec 92 03:00:15 EST
>In article <Bz8ID4.7K3@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, nrau@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Nicholas Naveen Rau) writes:
>> Well, here it is, my entrance into the football conf. and frankly from the
>> lack of New Orleans fans around here, I think it is needed.  For an 11 - 3
>> team they are vastly undersupported here.
>> 
>
>I agree. What's the problem with NO? No "NO pun intended (infinite loop)"
>students in LA (NO, Not LA :) with computer accounts :) :)
>
>Just say NO!
>
>[...]
>
>> Maybe it is do to my feeling that the Saints will be more than a bye in the
>> playoffs this year.
>> 
>> GEAUX SAINTS.
>> 
>> 

Saints get little to 0 press around here.  I think they are just 
overshaddowed and OUT BANDWIDTHED by the niner fans.

I'd like to see more info on them.  Hell they are gonna give everyone a run 
for the $$ in the playoffs...
-ALN
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