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From: athos@apple.com (Rick Eames)
Subject: Confused about worms...
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:28:02 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats

We took our kitty in to get the "worm shot" about a month ago.  Today I
looked at his bottom and indeed there were those small little worms there.

Where do these stupid things come from?? What should I be doing
differently?



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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: david@tms390.micro.ti.com (David Thomas)
Subject: Re: Problem With Neighbors' Cat
Organization: Texas Instruments, Houston
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:56:46 GMT

abb@unislc.uucp (Anne Beck) writes:

>...I realized it was new neighbors' Bengal, just six months old.  
>The cat was freaked out and ran into my backyard.
>...I told her my dogs had gone for her and that
>I'd almost run over her.  She replied, very matter of factly,
>"Oh, well she has to learn how to cope outdoors.  And if she got
>into your yard, she should be able to get out."
>...this was the most hopeless, confused,
>and befuddled cat I'd ever seen!  This cat is going to die,
>I know it.  It makes me sick.

Unbelieveable!  Your neighbor owns a *Bengal* and she says,
"Oh, well she has to learn how to cope outdoors"?  I wouldn't
be surprised if she paid $1000 or more for this kitten, if it's
really a Bengal.  She must have more money than brains!  Have 
you noticed any other signs of mental derangement in your new 
neighbor?  Does she leave other valuables lying about outside?

Isn't she afraid that the cat will be stolen?  All the people
I know with rare breeds wouldn't dream of letting them out of
the house.

Bengals are purebred cats.  They haven't the instincts nor the
training from their mothers to deal with the outside world.
They haven't been outdoors for several generations.  The probability 
that one of these cats will "learn how to cope outdoors" before 
getting itself killed by a dog or an automobile is not very good.

If you could discreetly find out the name of the breeder of this 
kitten, I'll bet that person would have something to say about
this incident.  Given a name, I might be able to find an address
or a phone number.  The breeder might be concerned enough to try to
retrieve the kitten from what appears to be an irresponsible owner,
or at the very least, try to talk some sense into this person, if
its possible.
-- 
David Thomas  Texas Instruments  (david@wotangate.sc.ti.com)  (713)-274-2347
From: daj8m@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Deirdre A. Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Musical setting of Pangur Ban
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:48:44 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

Thanks, Steve, for the music suggestion!  I hadn't heard of the
"Songs from Hermitage" before & they sound interesting - I will
certainly look them up.

Many thanks to Nancy, too, for her enthusiastic response to my
post.  (I wanted to e-mail a response to you, Nancy, but I lost
your address & couldn't get back to your followup.  So I'll write
to you here...)  I was VERY happy that you liked the poems so much!

                                -Deirdre (daj8m@virginia.edu)
From: moose@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Kristine Anne De Leon Jugo)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Spanky - neurotic cat
Date: 21 Nov 92 06:04:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


  Spanky - the neurotic cat - is an orange tabby....he got
  his name from this REALLY cute Gund bear named Spanky which
  my boyfriend refuses to buy me because he said i have TOO
  many stuffed animals already.

  He is only 7 months old.....does that mean there's an off-
  the-wall chance that he will actually calm down when he gets
  older?
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Help! Znoober keeps knocking over the garbage!
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:22:52 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Nov23.072507.2285@lclark.edu>, arkoff@sun.lclark.edu (Gary Arkoff) writes:
> The title says it all.  My cat has taken to knocking over the garbage at
> night.  What can I do to stop her?  Please respond by email as I rarely
> have time to thoroughly read this group (though I wish I did).

1) put the trash into a cupboard or closet  -- OR --
2) heavy weight in bottom of garbage can    -- OR --
3) arrange an unpleasant surprise, like balancing lightweight glasses of
   water on the edge of the trash can

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: young@serum.kodak.com (Rich Young)
Subject: Re: Raw Pork & Bacon
Originator: young@sasquatch
Reply-To: young@serum.kodak.com
Organization: Clinical Diagnostics Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 17:02:11 GMT

In article <Bxs6Gn.DD5@cs.dal.ca> maillet@cs.dal.ca (Dray Maillet) writes:

>In article <1992Nov15.164711.26912@gssec.bt.co.uk>, dgordon@gssec.bt.co.uk (David Gordon) writes:
>|> Hello Feline Folk.
>|> 
>|> I've been reading the postings on raw pork with interest. Can anyone
>|> make a definitive statement on whether raw bacon is also a major no-no ?
>|> 
>|> Does the curing process mean that this 'orrible little parasite thingy
>|> is wiped out or is it a bit tougher than that ?
>|> 
>
> If I remember my source correctly (a book I own that is far, far away), any
> pork product (bacon, chops, ham, etc), either cooked or raw, is a no-no 
> because cats have a very hard time to digest it. Kinda like my cooking in 
> general. 8^)

	As far as I can determine from the CORNELL BOOK OF CATS, there is no
	specific proscription against pork for digestibility reasons.


-Rich Young (These are not Kodak's opinions.)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: sbiles@nmsu.edu (Susannah E Biles)
Subject: another monster!
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:06:29 GMT


Well the monster in our house is the DREADED SHOWER CURTAIN MONSTER!!!
We have one of those shower curtains that has two curtains, one on the
inside of the tub and one on the outside. The kittens love to get in
between the two curtains and bat at eachother and at the curtain.
My littlest kitten, Sydney, is the real protector tho. He will chew on
the curtain to make sure it knows its place when I am in the bathroom.
It is so nice to know that my kitten is there to protect me :)

The really funny thing is that the outer curtain is clear with prints
of kitties all over it! Syd must be protecting me from all those other
cats!
;)

Susan
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ronnie@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Ronnie Findley)
Subject: FUR MICE
Organization: Lockheed Santa Cruz, CA.
Distribution: NA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 22:01:36 GMT

THIS IS MY FIRST POSTING TO THIS NEWSGROUP AND I'M SURE I'LL GET FLAMED, 
*BUT*, IN THIS DAY AND AGE WHEN MOST OF US ARE SO AGAINST KILLING ANIMALS 
FOR THEIR FUR, WHY ARE SOME OF US STILL BUYING REAL FUR TOYS FOR OUR 
KITTIES?  I KNOW I WON'T, AND I HAVE MADE MY FEELINGS CLEAR TO MY VET AND 
ANY PET/FEED STORE I FREQUENT.  YOU'RE ONLY PUTTING MONEY INTO THE POCKETS 
OF THE FUR INDUSTRY, AN INDUSTRY THAT'S DWINDLING MORE AND MORE THANKS TO 
PUBLIC AWARENESS.  HOWEVER, I'VE RECENTLY READ THAT CUTESY REAL FUR TOYS FOR 
ANIMALS AND CHILDREN ARE FLOODING THE MARKET SINCE HUMANS AREN'T, FOR ONE 
REASON OR ANOTHER, BUYING FUR STOLES, COATS, ETC.  THINK ABOUT IT -- AND BUY 
ONE OF THE MANY ALTERNATIVES OUT THERE.  

RONNIE:  OWNED BY THREE FULL-TIME INDOOR CATS AND THREE OUTDOOR "SPARE" 
CATS (HATE THE WORD "STRAY")           




Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Subject: Re: WHAT TO NAME A WHITE MALE KITTEN
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
Date: 18 Nov 1992 13:23 EST  

In article <1e1a77INN3br@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, girl@slavery.EBay.Sun.COM (Mary Smith) writes...
> 
> Call him alabaster....Al for short!

And when he's a *bad* kitty, you can call him by his whole name with a 
comma after the `Al' part. :-)

(Oh, and add a `d' if the pun works better for you that way. :-))

-- Stephen

	Growing up is easier than you think ... one day, you just wake
	up an adult ... and mourn your loss. 

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ltao@netcom.com (Lilly Tao)
Subject: Re: Help - Allergies to New Kitty
Organization: Netcom Online
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:02:01 GMT

Anyone have any experience with Allerpet?  It's this liquid substance
that you rub all over your cat.  It's supposed to cut down on cat dander
and saliva allergic reactions.  I found it in my local pet store; haven't
tested it out much since we're not sure if our current visitor is fully
allergic to cats or not (well, she's not sniffling yet!).  I haven't checked
the FAQ about this product, so sorry if it's already fully documented.

Lilly Tao
ltao@netcom.com
From: spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Neutering question
Date: 16 Nov 1992 18:02:12 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: zion.berkeley.edu

rhart@haas.berkeley.edu (Richard Hart) writes:

>Is is normal for the vet to keep the cat overnight after
>neuter surgery? This is a male cat. I don't remember this
>being the practice last time I had a boy cat (years ago).
>
>I don't think they even kept my girls overnight, come to think of it.
>
>Net wisdom?

Your vet has learned much from watching cats over
the years.

He's learned to fluff up his invoices.

Steve
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: "ken fryer" <ken.fryer@canrem.com>
Subject: kitty's 1st christmas!
Reply-To: "ken fryer" <ken.fryer@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:03:00 EST

To stop my 2 kittys climbing the christmas tree I place a long sausage 
shaped balloon at the bottom of the tree they hate the screeching 
noiss it makes when they touch it and so keep away....

               Kenny

 * 1st 1.02b #201 * Wish that I was on old Rocky Top, down in the TN hills...
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: corregated cardboard scratchers
Date: 22 Nov 92 01:41:51 GMT
Organization: Yet Another Graphics Project, Bellevue, WA

>In article <92324.160121SPOLINS@auvm.american.edu> <SPOLINS@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>>Have you tried those corregated cardboard cat scratchers that are supposed to
>>have the catnip scent?  I got one for my guys a year ago and they wouldn't even
>> look at it.  Now all of the sudden one of them loves it.  When she's not
>>scratching it she sleeps on it.
>>
Those scratchers have saved a lot of wear and tear on my furniture.  KC and
Oreo each have their own, and they've loved them since the beginning.  When
I first got them, I placed each cat on its scratcher, and, holding their
front paws, put them through the motion of scratching.  As soon as the cats felt
their claws sink into the cardboard, they were hooked!  They sleep on them,
attack them, chew on them, and just have a good time. 
------
Debbie Schwartz // das@voodoo.ca.boeing.com  // ....uw-beaver!bcsaic!voodoo!das
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: hagel@stsci.edu
Subject: Re:  Cats on TV
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:12:45 GMT


In <Ef2ue8_00iUz81_zgS@andrew.cmu.edu>, Meg Alison Veily writes:

>Well, Here's a TV cat you may or may not remember. Remember the show
>_Remington Steele_? (Stephanie Zimbalist and Pierce Brosnan were private
>investigators). Well, the character Laura had an all black cat named
>Nero. The episode I was watching last night was the one where Laura's
>house gets blown up. She was supposed to be blown up with it, but when
>she opened the door to go in, Nero goes running out the door (obviously
>upset because some strangers were in his home setting a bomb), and Laura
>goes out looking for him, thereby not being in the house when it goes
>BOOM. Yet another story of a cat saving life and limb of its owner. :-) 
> (I don't remember if Nero was in any other episodes. The show did not
>revolve around Laura's homelife.)

>-Meg (always happy to bring bits of trivial information to the net)

Nero appeared occasionaly in the 1st season only of the show.  I seem to
recall a character saying that he was never found again after "running away 
from home" right before home went kablooie.  Laura had no cat in her 
subsequent loft apartment, alas.


Crystal Hagel
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jessica@wrs.com (Jessica Hart)
Subject: Re: rubber bands and milk rings
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:40:40 GMT



I thought rubber bands were a definite no-no. And the same goes for
twist-ties (you mean those short, sharp wires covered with paper or plastic
that you get at the supermarket, right?)

On a related note, those plastic bag-closure items (often found on bread
loaves at the supermarket, with a price on them sometimes) are dangerous
to animals AND HUMANS. I mean the flat, plastic squares about 1" big.
Apparently, they sometimes get made into sandwiches
by accident and eaten, then they can clamp onto the inside of the intestine.
Ouch! Now if I buy something that has that type of closure, I throw it away
immediately. If I don't, it always seems to disappear anyway. Where do they
all go?

Those wire twist-ties do seem to hold a fascination for my cats. They are
mesmerized and MUST have them if they ever do fall on the floor.

I mainly use clothespins for everything now. And they do make a great
cat toy.

My cats also like hazelnuts in the shell. They will fish them out of the
bowl to play soccer with. Makes a loud noise on our hardwood floor which,
I'm sure, annoys the downstairs neighbor! The cats will tire of one nut
and fish for another one (they all look the same to me, but hey, I'm only
human!) until they empty the bowl.


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dmillard@encore.com (Debbie Millard)
Subject: Re: Jumping Cat
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:21:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.152251.1@stsci.edu> lhuffman@stsci.edu writes:
>My cat Seet Pea who loves to have her body pressing somehwere on her Mom Cat 
>will jump onto my shoulder from the floor, whether I am facing her or not. 
>

Timmy does this, too.  Isn't it cute? 

In addition...when he's purring & rubbing his face on mine while standing
on my shoulder, I'll gently grab the back of his neck, tuck his head, and
sorta roll him down into my arms...cradled on his back like a baby...and
continue the loving.

One day, I was sitting at the counter with a friend.  Timmy jumped to my
shoulders from behind and before I knew what he was doing, tucked his head
and rolled...but not into my arms...he bounced off the counter and landed
with a thud on the floor.  He just laid there for a few seconds, glaring
up at me..."Mo-om, why didn't you catch me?"... then proceeded to take
a bath in a very put out manner.  I tried and tried not to, but I just
couldn't help but laugh.  My friend nearly fell out of her chair
laughing...she'd never seen anything like it.  Timmy was, of course, 
indignant that we laughed.

Debbie and Calli and Cissy and Timmy-the-not-so-graceful-acrobat.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lhuffman@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: strange hairless circles on my cats
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:31:31 GMT

In article <41172@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, palvarez@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Pablo Alvarez-Royo) writes:
> All three of our cats now have strange hairless spots on their shoulders
> /neck area (1 spot per cat). We have no idea what the reason for this
> may be. We first spotted this on Taz many months ago, then saw one on
> Teetee, and have recently found a similar mark on Benzo. 
>  They are about the size of a
> nickel, and completely hairless. We also know from following Taz that
> the hair does not seem to grow back. 
> 	Does anybody know why this might be? We are starting to      
> get worried and would appreciate any comments.
> 	Thank you
> 

Sound like your cats have ringworm - the sypmtoms are classic. You need 
medication from the vet, if that is so. Also, you are apt to get it if it
is not cleared up; ringworm isn't dangerous, just terribly itchy.
From: ph600fcy@sdcc14.ucsd.edu (Matthew Harrington)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: broken kittens leg!!!!( Latins and animal cruelty )
Date: 18 Nov 92 03:14:14 GMT

Regarding Joel Sanchez's article:

Well, I surely didn't mean to be a racist, but I do think that
criticism about other cultures is not necessarily racist.

Where have I "heard" this information?  My other roommate is a Latin
American History graduate student and has traveled frequently in
that region.  He has seen first hand the abuses that animals suffer
even with children.  He has one story of a puppy being smashed by an
approximately 50 pound rock by a child barely strong enough to lift
the rock.

Also, a relative takes in boarders, and she once took in someone
from South America.  He was abusive towards her dog to the point
that he was unwelcome in the house.

The kitty-abuser living with me now has told stories of her family
smuggling endangered Amazonian monkeys into New York City by
tranquilizing them and putting them in their suitcase.  They
sometimes survive the trip only to perish in the decidely
un-tropical clime of Long Island.

And, I would not consider myself a racist by pointing out that the
Latin tradition of BULL FIGHTING certainly is not humane treatment
of animals.

I try not to make "ignorant and uninformed statements", as you say,
and I do not think that I have done so.

					Matt Harrington

-- 
---------------------------------
Matthew B. Harrington
mbharrington@ucsd.edu

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: brianm@sco.com (Brian Moffet)
Subject: Re: Jumping Cat
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:28:23 GMT

jill@mpd.tandem.com (Jill Jones) writes:
>still too little to jump up to the sink.  She's only four months old.
>Maybe she'll be able to make it up to my shoulder in one jump by the
>time she's grown.  Wouldn't THAT be wonderful?  :)

Well, if she grows to any good size, I wouldn't want to have her jumping that
high!

I dunno, Diablo weighs in at 16 pounds, and having him jump from ground
to shoulder would probably knock me over, and I am fairly sturdy myself.
Luckly, he seems to not want to jump that high.  About 4 feet at most,
my shoulders are about 5 feet some inches.

brian moffet

no, I don't type this with a cat on my lap, If I were at home, the cat
would be trying to walk on the keyboard.  (or stealing my mouse.)
--
"Face it, Chuck.  Taken as an aggregate, the human race is a stupid, sorry lot."
                           -- Jonathan Quist

brianm@sco.com  or uunet!sco!brianm                    Speaking for Myself
From: mverman@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Neutering question
Date: 22 Nov 92 02:09:00 -0600
Distribution: usa
Organization: Minnesota State University System

In article <1e8lu7INN911@agate.berkeley.edu>, rhart@haas.berkeley.edu (Richard Hart) writes:
> Is is normal for the vet to keep the cat overnight after
> neuter surgery? This is a male cat. I don't remember this
> being the practice last time I had a boy cat (years ago).
> 
> I don't think they even kept my girls overnight, come to think of it.
> 
> Net wisdom?
> 
> 
Some do and some don't keep male cats.  It's an added perk:  Let's him get
expert supervision and immediate treatment if something goes wrong.  It also 
saves you from having to worry about if he's recovering properly, if he's too
dopey, should you keep the other cats from pouncing and wresting, should you 
keep him from jumping, should you call the vet, etc.  By the day after surgery,
the guys are generally A-OK, recovered from anaesthetic and ready to roll.  
You can always call in to check on the little fellow.  Especially nice vets
will call you to tell you how he's doing.

Most vets keep female cats overnight, since their operation is major surgery.

...Shu

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: toftner@icd.teradyne.com (Liv Toftner)
Subject: Re:       corregated cardboard scratchers
Reply-To: toftner@icd.teradyne.com
Organization: Teradyne, Inc. Boston MA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:16:49 GMT

>Have you tried those corregated cardboard cat scratchers that are supposed to
>have the catnip scent?  I got one for my guys a year ago and they wouldn't even
> look at it.  Now all of the sudden one of them loves it.  When she's not
>scratching it she sleeps on it.


Pounce loves it, Lion ignores it.
From: cczcole@mips.nott.ac.uk (Marlon Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Am I a bad cat owner??
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:32:43 GMT
Reply-To: cczcole@mips.nott.ac.uk (Marlon Cole)
Organization: Nottingham University

In article <1992Nov19.194750.1544@dunix.drake.edu>, ac94691@dunix.drake.edu (The Dark Kitty) writes:
|> Anyway, ever since Snoopy was a kitty he and I have rough housed like
|> you wouldn't believe.  He jumps on the bed, I grab him and start
|> spinning him all over the place, he gnaws on me the whole time.  His
|> little feet are utterly ineffective, so he gnaws.  Never does any
|> damage, just makes little red marks all over my arm.
|> 
|> In essence, snoopy and I play very aggressively with each other (though
|> I'm careful not to be too rough with him), so I guess I'm not a wimp
|> to him.  If I leave the room he'll come follow and try to play more
|> or jump on my lap when I sit down.  Basically, I just be another cat
|> and direct his biting play into areas that I don't mind.  
|> 
   I've been doing the same with our Whisper, but he hasn't been declawed, so he's more than able to
fight back!
    Problem is our other cat, dainty little girl cat Daisy, though she's as aggressive as Whisper (in
that she'll chase him round the house, grab him by the throat while kicking him in the head(!)), she
isn't as violent if you like, by which I mean she knows she's playing and doesn't bite hard or dig
claws in, while with Whisper he goes in for the kill!  While I can take it from him (usually by putting
an oven glove on, so I look like one of guys who train guard dogs!), poor Daisy really suffers if
Whisper goes after her.
   I guess I've brought this behaviour of Whisper on myself, and now don't know how to stop him being
so rough with Daisy.
    Anyone got any ideas?

    Thanks,
                Marlon

------------
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Systems Programmer                   cczcole@uk.ac.nott.unicorn depending.....
Cripps Computing Centre
University of Nottingham
NOTTINGHAM. NG7 2RD
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: hagel@stsci.edu
Subject: Re:  Weird cat treats
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:06:14 GMT

Last Christmas Eve, my fiance made beef stew in the crockpot for when we 
came home from church.  For the occasion, he spiked it with a little
homemade stout (dark beer). The humans of the household declared this 
recipie a great success.  However, when we gave small samples of this 
yummy stuff to the cats, Satin and Kami sniffed, tasted, and turned up
their noses. But Pyanfar, the finicky eater, not only licked all 3 dishes
clean but growled if the others came too near!  Anyone else have an
alcoholic cat? :) 
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