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From: CSMSETS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (CSMSETS)
Subject: Re: crop circles
Date: 25 Aug 92 12:38:26 PDT

In article <1992Aug25.153617.13167@hubcap.clemson.edu>, on 25 Aug 1992 15:36:17 GMT,
jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght) writes:

>
>What would be the appropriate list for discussion of crop circles?  I
>don't think I have ever heard of them being associated with ghosts, so
>where do you think I could pick up some discussion of the crop circle
>phenomenon?
>
>Jim
>
Jim,
  I think they went over crop circles in alt.skeptic awhile back.
From: streeter@cs.unca.edu (Tom Streeter)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Second Half of College Story
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:59:21 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville

In article <2SEP199216002910@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> devol@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (WILLIAM DEVOL) writes:
>
>
>I went to a guy that owned a used record store in Athens.  He was a relic 
>of the late 1960s, and (on a pure hunch) I figured he'd know "weird" people
>  When I walked into his store and asked him if he knew any psychics, he 
>looked at me as if I had called him a name.  He reached under the counter 
>and handed me a card for a psychic.  "This chick was in here yesterday and 
>gave me that card.  She said she thought I might need it later.  Take it 
>and get out of here."
>
>I called the number on the card, and the lady set a time to go through the 
>house with me.  I invited Jane, and she jumped at the chance.
>

I've always wondered why psychics need cards -- or phones for that
matter.  Seems to me they should know when to show up.........

:-) :-) :-)!


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From: ledlow@triton.unm.edu (?)
Subject: Re: Scariest movie
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 17:31:03 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: na

How about the movie "The Evil Dead" ?  I saw this one when it first came out
at the movie theatre, and it was the first (and only movie) which give me
nightmares.  There is a slightly entertaining story related to the second
time I saw it :

    I live in the East-Mountain area near Albuquerque, NM.  At my previous
home (which was completely surrounded by tall trees, on about 2.5 acres),
I and my wife and kids were watching the Evil Dead.  If you are familiar
with the movie, you will realize that the setting is not all that different
from where I lived.  At a particularly gruesome part, we all heard a noise
outside, and one of our garage doors (we had a four-car garage), was opening
by itself.  this was the first time this had ever happened.  I was a bit
nervous about going outside to check it out, but did anyway. This completely
terrified the rest of my family (it was at night.).  Anyway, no ghosts here.
Apparently, either a plane flew over, or a CB radio (we lived 1.5 miles from
the interstate.) triggered the remote control frequency.  This happened a
few times on later dates (without the eerie circumstances). 

   Anyway, Personally, I don't care for gore hack-em-up movies.  The Evil
Dead is a pretty low-budget, but good movie if you want to scare the sh*t
out of you.

--mjl
From: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Scariest movie
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:52:32 GMT
Reply-To: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Distribution: na

kyle@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kyle Wohlmut) writes:

>There's an old (30's?) film called 'Freaks' that a lot of college type
>theatres show around Halloween, which is truly scary... anybody know
>it? (It's even scarier because the 'monsters,' a troupe of circus
>freaks, are real-- and actual circus performers were used in the
>film...)

I would have to disagree about 'Freaks' being a horror film, or even
scary.  I thought it was a well done film, but more in the mystery
vein.  I also thought the treatment of the 'freaks' was very well
done.  Not sappy, not exploitive, but it treated them as real people,
who just happened to be a bit different from most of us.  I'd still
recommend it, but don't go into it looking to get frightened.

Just to get in my vote, I'd have to agree with a prior poster that
"The Shining" probably frightens me more than any other film I've
seen.  I especially liked the fact that the actual 'scary' scenes take
up very little of the running time.  Most of the time is spent in
suspense.  A type of suspense that doesn't lessen with repeated
viewings though, unlike most exploitive slasher/horror films.

Of course, this really has little to do with 'ghost stories', and
probably belongs in one of the movies groups, but what the hell.



--
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From: serge@ll.mit.edu (Sergio Cafarelli)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Scariest movie
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:18:49 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <1992Aug30.185621.29680@tamsun.tamu.edu> mds8539@tamuts.tamu.edu (Michael David Slater         ) writes:
>In article <1992Aug30.013506.28339@news.nd.edu> wlamonac@tolkien.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca) writes:
>>You wanted a list of the scariest movies- here is a list of my 3 faves:

How about EXORCIST?
From: dawill@hubcap.clemson.edu (david williams)
Subject: Re: Scariest movie
Organization: Clemson University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:14:03 GMT

jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght) writes:

>In article <1992Aug31.091839.11455@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, christin@cae.wisc.edu (Christine Haas) writes:

>About the movie "the Day After"

>> Yes!  I have asked others about it as well and they don't know what
>> I am talking about.  If it is the same movie I am thinking of, isn't
>> the dad at work, while the mom is playing hide and seek with the kids,
>> and in the end it is really sad because the little girl dies.  She dies
>> because when the crews come around to pick up the people lying on the ground so
>> that they can take them to the hospital to treat them, they don't find
>> the girl because she was hiding and eventually the dad finds his daughter
>> hiding where she always hid when they played hide-n-seek.

>I don't remember this detail but I do remember some people vaporizing,
>and a bunch of people at a ball game and they see the missiles all take
>off and they wonder what they should do and if it's realy a nuc. strike.  And
>one guy hides in his car to protect himself from flash blindednees and
>some kid gets flash blinded.  I remember a bunch of people arguing over
>who pre-empted and then realizing that it does not matter because both
>governments are totally wiped out.

>I remember a scene where a teenage daughter goes stir crazy hiding in a
>basement and runs out into the fallout and gets radiation sickness.

>It was a very frightening show!

>I am glad to find someone who has actually heard of this show and
>rememebers it.  People around here think I am nuts when I mention the
>show.

>Jim

Actually, I'm surprised more people don't remeber it.  When it came out,
I was absolutely scared to death.  The next day has to be one of the
more introspective days I have ever spent.  Just about everyone I knew
had seen the show, and was walking around in shock.  Literal shock.
Quite a few people who had seen the show would start crying at times.
I did.

   Dave
-- 
      Dave Williams
        dawill@hubcap.clemson.edu
           "Huh?  What?  Could you repeat the question?"

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From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: More on Light Bolbs
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:39:11 GMT

Aside from street lights going out when I pass I also have to replace the
incandessant bulbs in my house and office monthly.  Other people who I
visit have also noticed a pronounced lack of illumination after I have
been hanging around.

I have tried the expensive bulbs, and they work about twice as long as the
cheap ones (i.e. 2 months).  I find the ones that are physically closer
to my bedroom are affected more.

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From: dawill@hubcap.clemson.edu (david williams)
Subject: Re: Scariest movie
Organization: Clemson University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:27:54 GMT

z8tah@zohar.gsfc.nasa.gov (Theresa A. Held) writes:

>In terms of the most scary movie for me was _Night of the
>Triffids_ (sp?).  Anyone remember this movie?   The world
>as we know it ends because 95% of all people go blind.

>The triffids (fleash eating plants), get rid of most the
>blinded people. 

   Hey, I was just a kid at the time, but how about the movie "Heavy
Metal"?  The scene in particular was the one with the zombies in the
shot-up bomber.  This one had me terrified, probably because it was 
such a stark change in cartoon styles from the previous segment.  I
was really shook up, and it didn't help that we lived in a house built
in 1901, which is a somewhat larger version of the house in the
Amityville horror. (sp?)  (As an aside, we moved into this house when
I as 7, and I was terrified of the place from the word go.  I'm not 
sure it was because of ghosts, but I don't *think* the place is
haunted.  On the other hand,  I've always been sort of uneasy at 
times there.  It sure would be the perfect place for a ghost to haunt,
if it wanted to.  My mom is convinced that there are "friendly" spirits
there that do nothing more harmful than open doors.)  After 
seeing "Heavy Metal", I was convinced one of the zombies was at the 
top of the stairs with a .50 cal machine gun for weeks after.  Took 
me quite awhile to shake that one.  (Hey, I was pretty young at the 
time)

   Dave

-- 
      Dave Williams
        dawill@hubcap.clemson.edu
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From: roy@proteus.b11.ingr.com (Roy Passmore)
Subject: RE: College Ghosts
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:41:22 GMT

In article <BttEFy.7t2@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v095qhyg@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (CONSTANTINOS I. ORFANOS) writes:

|>            The second report has to do with a kid who had committed 
|>     suicide by jumping out of a 10th floor dorm window.  About 8 years
|>     after that unfortunate event, the residents of that same room heard
|>     a knocking on their window around 11 pm.  Believing it had to be a prank
|>     since they live so high up in the dorms, they lift the curtains and
|>     found the same kid, who committed suicided 8 years before, floating
|>     in the air outside the window.  He supposedly decided that suicide
|>     was not the solution.
       
       I've heard students mention that a female ghosts appears in the theatre
       building at Athens State College, near Huntsville, Alabama.  The college
       was founded in 1822 and was an all girls school. Around the time of the
       Civil War, before or after I don't know, a female stage performer was
       scheduled to do one performance, but after the show everyone wanted her
       to come back the next night for a second show. She had agreed but on the
       way back to where she was staying the stage coach overturned, killing the
       lady. The story tellers have it that she's been seen in the building
       at times getting ready for her next performance ever since that fatal 
       night. I've had a couple of classes in this building at night and since
       it is a very old building one can hear all kinds of noises. No smell of
       lavender perfume though.
-- 

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From: judim@wes.on.ca (Judi Mota)
Subject: Re: Did our Cat see a Ghost ?
Organization: Waterloo Engineering Software
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:29:32 GMT

In article <19920824153926CSMSETS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU> CSMSETS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (CSMSETS) writes:
>In article <92237.110629RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET>, on 24 Aug 1992 11:06:29 CET,
><RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET> writes:
>
>>

       (other stuff deleted)
>
>My cats used to do this all the time in my house (they don't come in
>anymore because the dogs bother them) but my dogs also do this. What is
>strange about this is they will be lying asleep on the floor, wake
>up, watch something og across the dinning room and then just go back
>to sleep (they used to bark but I guess they just got used to it). They
>always seem to track the same path (either going from the garage to
>a wall in the dinning room, or from that wall to the garage). Both dogs
>are Rottweilers and tend to get rather agitated when someone they don't
>know come into/near our house but they seem to be comfortable with
>whatever they seem to see.
>      --Ed

I remember one time when my family and I were watching some sort of program
on ghosts where some "ghost chaser" had supposedly recorded a ghost talking
(although it sounded more like quiet moaning).  My mom's shih tzu was just
two or three years old at the time and during most of the program was sound
asleep on the floor.  The first time they played the "recording", the poor
dog woke up and started howling at the television!  At the time he started
to howl, the little hairs on the back of my neck stood straight up.  My mom
said she had the same reaction.  They played the recordings three times and
although the dog stopped when their recordings stopped, he would start again
when they played them again.  At first I thought there might be some high 
pitch only he could hear but the taping seemed to have some blank spots and
he didn't howl during the quiet parts of the recordings.  

The only other thing I could think of was that the recordings were fake and
there was some high pitch used to produce the "talking" and this is what he 
was hearing.

Either way, it still made me a little nervous.

Judi
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From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Subject: Re: Scariest movie
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 02:07:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.013506.28339@news.nd.edu> wlamonac@tolkien.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca) writes:
>You wanted a list of the scariest movies- here is a list of my 3 faves:
>
>Well, not scariest, but spookiest- "The Haunting of Hill House" (based on
>Shirley Jackson's novel by the same name.)
>Kind of creepy- "Carnival of Souls"
>Very Creepy- "Vampyr" (A somewhat obscure German movie from the early 1930s)

_The Shining_ scared the shit out of me, with those girls staring very
deadishly at you, and "Redrum."

--
Sweet Thames, run softly till I end my song
Sweet Thames, run softly, for I speak not loud or long.
			-- T.S. Eliot, "The Wasteland"
From: eiverson@nmsu.edu (Eric Iverson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: College Theatre Ghosts
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:34:06 GMT
Organization: Computing Research Lab


The Comstock theater at Concordia College in Moorhead MN has a ghost
named (I believe) Al Gernsbach.  I'm not sure on the specifics on how
he became a ghost but there he is.  A friend of mine was alone in the
theater one night and heard him walking up in the catwalks, pause,
sigh, and then keep walking.

In addition, the old music building had a ghost who would walk up and
down the halls at night and sometimes turn lights on.  Later, when a
residence hall was put up in its place, a friend of mine who lived
there had many episodes in which small items would spontaneously fling
themselves across the room as if by an unseen hand.

Another friend worked one summer painting dorm rooms and reported
seeing a light in this room of one of the older halls that shouldn't
have been on.  I believe this happened a number of times.

Concordia has had at least one on campus suicide that I know of (a
girl hung herself in the 50's) but there may be more.

Oh, now that I think of it, nearby St Johns has the ghost of a dead
monk in one of it's classroom buildings.  The story I heard was that
it had gotten so bad that the top floor was left unused (except by
the monk of course)  I guess the monk is a rather nasty fellow and has
caused a great deal of consternation over the years.

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From: st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (LUCIFER)
Subject: Re: crop circles
Reply-To: st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:54:45 GMT

These crop circles have been proved to be caused by a fungus.
Preaty mundane stuff. Besides, it is not really a ghost-y subject.


Keep up the good stories,
			Anton Smirnov
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From: bednarek@picard.med.ge.com (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971)
Subject: Re: photographing a ghost
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 11:50:09 GMT


Yes i have heard of many instances of photographing ghosts.  There are many ways
in which it can be done depending upon the conditions.	

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From: jsh@controls.ccd.harris.com (Joe Hoff)
Subject: An uninvited visitor.
Organization: Harris Controls and Compositions
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:55:55 GMT


To relive the crop circle/scary movie tedium, here's an event that happend to
my parents soon after my birth.

At the time, we were living in Erlanger Kentucky.  I believe I wasn't quite
two years old. The house we were living in wasn't "haunted".  There had been
any previous strange occurences and it was a not a terribly old house.

Anyway, one night my father started having horrible nightmares.  He would wake
up in the middle of the night screaming and in a cold sweat and in his panic would
tear the curtains that hung above the headboard of the bed down.  After waking,
however, he was unable to remember what the dream was about.

This continued for two straight nights.

On the third night, he again awoke in the middle of the night.  This time however,
it was without the screams and cold sweats.  Instead, when he opened his eyes,
he saw a man, about 6'+ tall, caucasian with dark hair and dressed in a tuxedo
standing by him next to the bed.  The man, my father says, had an extremely 
malignant expression on his face, and was slapping a pair of white gloves in his
hand while staring at my father.  My dad later recalls that their was a definite
aura of evil around this guy.

But, not being particularly ghost conscious and having come from an exceptionally
rowdy upbringing, my dad didn't give a second thought to the nature of the 
intruder but assumed that it was a perfectly normal, if exceptionally
well-dressed, burglar.  

Well, my father has had the habit for years of sleeping with a colt .45 in the
bed. (At 62 years old, he still does.)  He grabs the gun and leaps out of the bed
with the intention of apprehending this intruder.  Well, the man in the tuxedo
displays the perfectly normal reaction or turning on his heels and running before
my father gets quite out of bed.  My dad chases him out of his bedroom, down the
hall and into the room where I was sleeping,  (I was too young to recall the
incident) and into the closet of my bedroom.  He said that he never lost sight of
him until that last corner into the closet.  And there was nothing there. 

Due to the fact that no other similar occurences happened in the house before or
after this incident, it would seem probable that this is an instance of a
personal haunting.
From: loki@castle.ed.ac.uk (A Kashko)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Is anyone archiving this?
Date: 3 Sep 92 10:53:43 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <36899@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu > fnord@pine.circa.ufl.edu writes:
 >I mean it seems like what we've got here might well pass for an
 >electronic "working" version of a new Phantasms of the Living or
 >something.
 >
 >But then again, I suppose that since USENET is so informal, any
 >data that might be shoved up here wouldn't really be useful until
 >we could get REAL data via interview with the ppl involved.
 >
 >AND noone knows what lurks behind the motivations of Usenet posters.

	Not a bad idea. Provided one sticks to first hand accounts and
interviews the posters by email. Either one would have data for the type
of book you imagine, or the hoaxers would form material for a sociology thesis.
From: streeter@cs.unca.edu (Tom Streeter)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Three-Men and a baby(has a ghost!)
Date: 23 Aug 92 22:54:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville

In article <1992Aug23.024758.26592@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umsister@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Sisterson) writes:
>In the movie Three Men and a Baby, during one of the shots that pan
>the men's appartment, a little boy can be seen half-in-half-out of
>a window.   He is very shadowy.  I have seen it for myself.  
>

You are seeing a cardboard cutout of Ted Dansen put in the window as a
joke.  See the alt.folkore.urban FAQ for more details.



-- 
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Dept. of Mass Communication                 |   704-251-6227
University of North Carolina at Asheville   |   Opinions expressed here are
Asheville, NC 28804                         |   mine alone.
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From: trifid@agora.rain.com (Roadster Racewerks)
Subject: Re: crop circles
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 08:30:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.153617.13167@hubcap.clemson.edu> jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght) writes:
>What would be the appropriate list for discussion of crop circles?  I
>don't think I have ever heard of them being associated with ghosts, so
>where do you think I could pick up some discussion of the crop circle
>phenomenon?
>
>Jim



The crop circle phenomenon has been discussed on alt.paranormal. That might
be the best place to go looking for more stories.

I had also heard about two men in England having been "caught" faking crop
circles, but after seeing the TV special, where it was pointed out that in
several of the circles the wheat has been bent over (and it's always bent in
the genuine ones, not broken) in a clockwise direction in one layer, but the
next layer will be bent in a counterclockwise direction, inside the same circle.
Also, English scientists say that the seeds of grain inside the circles have
far more plant-embryos per seed than normal, about ten to one. Some of the
grain shows signs of having been microwaved as well. Makes one wonder if our
particle-beam physicists are up to something with "Star Wars"....

In any case, it seems to have gotten a lot more complicated than mere trampled
wheat lately.

Suze
trifid@agora.rain.com

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