HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: "Chris Martin" <wk04331@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: Stuck at SFO, what to do?
Reply-To: chris.martin@amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:06:25 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3)

I was at SFO about 3-4 weeks ago and somewhere (I believe in the AA
terminal... gates maybe 52 or so?) there was a series of interesting
photographs in an exhibit celebrating the ACLU.  It ain't much but it
may beat hats.

	--Chris

[Pardon the screwy formatting.  I'm commuting and doing news batch with
 an unfamiliar newsreader]

>DATE:   18 Nov 92 05:40:21 GMT
>FROM:   Jack Hamilton <jfh@netcom.com>
>
>In article <1992Nov18.031820.160548@zeus.calpoly.edu> jkusters@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chrome Jester) writes:
>>I'm gonna be stuck at the San Francisco airport for 3 or so hours in mid
>>December.  Since I'm gonna be taking a 5 hour plane ride immediately
>>following, I don't think I'm gonna feel much like waiting around reading.
>
>There's an exhibit of hats in the international terminal.  
>
>>Anyone have some ideas of what I could do for 3 hours (between 8 and 11) in
>>South San Francisco?  I won't have a lot of money to run up to the City or
>>anything...
>
>The hat exhibit is probably the most interesting thing happening in San
>Bruno (which is where the airport is located, not SSF).  You could walk up
>to the Rolling Pin Doughnuts on San Bruno Avenue.  But really, if you're
>without money and consequently without transportation there's not much to
>do except watch the planes take off.  
>
>You could take a SamTrans bus up to the city (around $4.00 round trip, I
>think), but the timing would be close. 
>
>-- 
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Jack Hamilton   jfh@netcom.com   P. O. Box 281107   SF, CA   94128-1107
From: jeffg@novell.com (Jeff Gallagher)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: South Bay Party
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:19:07 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.

Last chance on upcoming South Bay party!
----------------------------------------
My roommate George and I are going to host an informal party at
our townhouse in San Jose (near Milpitas).  The party will begin at
7pm on Saturday, November 21st.  We will be providing some munchies
and soft drinks and you are welcome to bring anything you wish.
We don't have a hot-tub like Paul and Eric, but we do have a ping-pong
table.  So bring your paddles, boys and girls.
 
 If you would like to come, please RSVP to this account or call George at
 (408) 433-2921 for directions.  Hope to see you there.
 ______________________________________________________________________________

	      Ok.  Fine.  No problem.  You got it.  Piece o' cake.
From: jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com (Joyce Vanderpoorten)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: SUMMARY:Special restaurants/Places not to go
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:46:46 GMT
Reply-To: jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: rhiannon.sitka.sun.com

>Joyce, I'd like to know when this happened and what transpired
>that you considered homophobic. I have been eating at Bay Wolf
>for years and I know for a fact that if anything, the official
>policy of the place has been very queer-friendly. There are
>quite a few queer waitpeople and Bay Wolf participates in
>programs with other bay area restaurants to raise money for
>services for PWAs. They also serve the best squab outside
>of certain asian restaurants in the City.


We had reservations and still were the last group to be seated
of which two groups of people did not have reservations and 
were seated in the same area we were in.
The length it took to get services.
Petty things on my part like the fact that the door was opened
for everyone to leave except us, we had to wait an extremely
long time to pay, and just basic attitude of the waitperson we
had and the greeting person - they were plain rude I did not
do anything to justify this.


>And overpriced? Compared to what? A complete meal at Bay Wolf
>with say, a Rodney Strong cab, salads and entrees and a shared
>creme caramel is under $100-- not bad when you compare Masa's
>or the Portman Grill. 

My food was cold, dry and if I can finish a meal then you know the
portions are small (I can barely finish a hamburger usually).  I may
have had just have experienced a bad restaurant day but once is
all it takes for  me.

>  I don't want to second guess your experience, but if something
>untoward did occur, it was probably by a cloddish individual.
>I'd call and talk to the powers that be at Bay Wolf.


You are probably right but since this was over 6 months ago a
complaint call wouldn't justify.
I have only had a bad experience one other time and this one
was very blatant - at 'The Other Cafe' in Emeryville.  I will
never go their again - even if I got free tickets and I did 
complain to the management which did absolutely nothing.

Maybe someone should gather info here on places that are totally
homophobic.
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From: jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com (Joyce Vanderpoorten)
Newsgroups: ba.motss,soc.motss
Subject: SF GoldenGate Park AIDS Memorial Grove
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:19:34 GMT
Reply-To: jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: rhiannon.sitka.sun.com

The work this weekend for the SF GoldenGate Park AIDS Memorial Grove went well.  
This week was more backbreaking work.  Macy's has donated 24 (I think this 
amount) potted trees (the pots diameter is 40").  These trees will be on display 
in Union Square, SF through xmas and then the grove will get them after that.  
They are going to plant them on the back far right hill.  This hill is now covered
with Ivy and Berry plants so basically the hill was clean cut and now the 
chore of digging the roots out is under way.  There were at least 100 people 
there this time - the noon circle was enormous and the 'throwing of names' into 
the circle of people we have lost or are living with AIDS was heartbreaking - 
there were so many names being said people had to talk over each other.
Anyway the kids from the juvenile driving offense group came again 
(about 30 of them) and they did the hard work of initial clear cutting of 
the hill and then 20 or so regular volunteers other came over there after lunch 
and continued.  
Remember that the next day of work on this Grove is Saturday December 12th 
and there will be two days in January so we can get that back hill in shape 
for the Macy's trees.

Joyce
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From: chuck@fourier.ssd.kodak.com (Charles S. Collins 726-9461)
Newsgroups: ba.motss,soc.motss
Subject: Re: New column adds a gay perspective
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:23:23 GMT
Organization: Eastman Kodak

In article <1egr5hINN7v6@fido.asd.sgi.com> kenj@kambo.esd.sgi.com (Ken ``Blackfur'' Jones) writes:
>I spotted this in today's (Thursday, November 19) issue of the
>San Jose Mercury News.
>
>=====================
>
>Starting today and on following Thursdays, the Living section will
>feature columnist Deb Price on Page 2. 
>
>You know as well as I that they're going to be getting plenty of
>flak by people who want queers to disappear from the face of the
>planet.  I think it would be a good idea to counterbalance the
>inevitable with some positive feedback.  


Deb's column has been featured in Rochester's Democrat and Chronicle
(a Gannett paper) every Thursday for the past 4-6 months.  Most of
the letters from readers have been positive; those that are not are usually
incoherent.

Deb has a wonderful style, easy to read.  She also appreciates letters
and phone calls from readers who have suggestions for future columns.



-- 
Chuck Collins				Product Software Engineering
chuck@pixel.kodak.com			Eastman Kodak Company
(716)726-9461				901 Elmgrove Road
					Rochester, NY  14653-5811
From: rhayden@oracle.com (Ronald Hayden)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: SUMMARY:Special restaurants/Places not to go
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:21:56 GMT
	<lgfr4mINN5ut@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Belmont, Ca.
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <lgfr4mINN5ut@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com (Joyce Vanderpoorten) writes:

   I have only had a bad experience one other time and this one
   was very blatant - at 'The Other Cafe' in Emeryville.  I will
   never go their again - even if I got free tickets and I did 
   complain to the management which did absolutely nothing.

The Other Cafe?  Homophobic?  They used to be near me in San
Francisco, and that seems rather odd for them...
--

  - Ronald Hayden

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From: mcb@semiotics.postmodern.com (Michael C. Berch)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Flash -- court invalidates Concord Measure M
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:53:29 GMT
Organization: Postmodern Consulting, San Francisco, California USA

Just heard on the radio that a Contra Costa County Superior Court judge
has held Concord Measure M unconstitutional, based on a Court of
Appeal ruling on the (substantially identical) Riverside measure.
No further details were available.

--
Michael C. Berch  
mcb@postmodern.com
Newsgroups: ba.motss,soc.motss
From: swirsky@adobe.com (Robert Swirsky)
Subject: Re: New column adds a gay perspective
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:42:14 GMT

In article <1egr5hINN7v6@fido.asd.sgi.com> kenj@kambo.esd.sgi.com (Ken ``Blackfur'' Jones) writes:

>You might also compliment
>the Mercury News on finally deciding to publish same-sex commitment
>ceremonies in the Weddings/Announcements sections.

Did you see *my* letter-to-the-editor in last Sunday's Merc?


-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
One of the most disgusting things I have ever witnessed was that horrible
little glove with a face that sells Hamburger Helper singing a twisted,
tormented version of "La donne e mobile."      -Mike Hurben
From: jgb@mcm.com (Jeff Bennington)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Address of BofA President
Summary: Here's BofA address
Keywords: BofA bank evil empire
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:02:54 GMT
Reply-To: jgb@mcm.com (Jeff Bennington)
Distribution: ba
Organization: Mellon Capital Management Corp., San Francisco

Hi MOTSSers!

Yesterday I posted a request for BofA's president.  I ended up
calling the office of the president myself just now to get an
accurate address. Please consider writing him yourself
should you get in the mood.  (Recall the Boy Scouts
deal..)

	Richard Rosenberg
	President, Bank of America
	PO Box 37000
	San Francisco CA  94137

	office of the pres: (415) 953-7963

-- 
Jeff Bennington     Mellon Capital Management Corp, San Francisco CA
         jgb@mcm.com    --- "When Alarm Sounds, Re-Engage Brain"
From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Stuck at SFO, what to do?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 14:16:22 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <1992Nov19.084820.12143@ads.com> 
henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
> jkusters@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chrome Jester) wrote: 
> ->Anyone have some ideas of what I could do for 3 hours (between 8 and 11) in
> ->South San Francisco?  I won't have a lot of money to run up to the City or
> ->anything...
>
> well, you could save your money and try to standby for the next flight
> out to your destination (if there is one between your arrival and
> scheduled departure).

And miss the hat show in the international terminal?
Are you kidding?

Arne
From: brahms@tdd.sj.nec.com (George Skillman  x2921)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Informal South Bay Party
Keywords: south bay party
Date: 18 Nov 92 02:43:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NEC-AM TDD, San Jose, California

Last chance on upcoming South Bay party:
----------------------------------------
My roommate Jeff and I are going to host an informal party at
our townhouse in San Jose (near Milpitas).  The party will begin at
7pm on Saturday, November 21st.  We will be providing some munchies
and soft drinks and you are welcome to bring anything you wish.
We don't have a hot-tub like Paul and Eric, but we do have a ping-pong
table.  So bring your paddles boys and girls.

If you would like to come, please RSVP to this account or call me at
(408) 433-2921 for directions.  Hope to see you there.

George Skillman
NEC America
brahms@tdd.sj.nec.com
(408) 433-2921
--
=============================================================
George Skillman (408) 433-2921
brahms@tdd.sj.nec.com
NEC America
From: owen@autodesk.com (D. Owen Rowley)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Stuck at SFO, what to do?
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:47:33 GMT
Distribution: ba

In article <74516@apple.apple.COM>, richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel) writes
> Maybe a Tom of Finland exhibit would be better.

right on!

BTW, the film about Tom and his art, "Daddy and the Muscle Academy"
is showing at the Castro again soon. ( Sorry I don't have times or dates.)
They are also selling T shirts of the movie poster for twelve bucks!

LUX ./. owen
--
D. Owen Rowley {uunet,fernwood,sun}!autodesk!owen

  " It will be a cold March 17th that I celebrate the imposition of
	Romes rule, on Pagan Ireland. Erin go ppphhhhhttttttt! "
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From: beldar@netcom.com (Gardner Cohen)
Newsgroups: ba.motss,soc.motss
Subject: If I had $1000...
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:58:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

A (former) coworker would like to donate the proceeds of an employment
referral bonus to benefit AIDS research or to some organization
serving PWAs.  We'd like to be sure that the money goes to a group
that spends as much of its money as possible on its goals rather than
on fundraising or overhead.

Thanks for any suggestions.  Local organizations preferred.

Please email, and I'll summarize.  Timely responses would be
appreciated, as the bonus is to come soon from his former (my current)
employer.

-- 
Gardner Cohen / beldar@netcom.com
From: jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com (Joyce Vanderpoorten)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: SF Golden Gate Park AIDS Memorial Grove
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:37:28 GMT
Reply-To: jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: rhiannon.sitka.sun.com


For those of you out there who like to do volunteer work
and get your hands nice a dirty - don't forget that this
Saturday (correct me if I am wrong please) from 9-3
in Golden Gate Park on Bowling Green Drive is the monthly
gathering of volunteers working on the AIDS Memorial Grove.
Feel free to come and make sure you bring lunch and work gloves.
From: orca@StarConn.com (Sarah Emily Liberman)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Looking for a good doctor
Date: 18 Nov 92 04:17:27 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Starnet-Public Access UNIX--Los Altos, CA  415-949-3133


Could somebody recommend a good (ie, informative, reliable *and* friendly)
physician within the Palo Alto area?  Have strong preference for a female
doctor, who is a general practioner/internist/interested in women's health.

Please send your responses via e-mail.

Many thanks!

-sarah emily liberman		orca@starconn.com
From: carr@athena.cs.uga.edu (Beth Carr)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: another article
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:27:17 GMT


Thanks so much, all of you who responded to my request for opinions of Madonna's new book (and its depictions of women/lesbians). The article is shaping up, ecially thanks to you gave me addresses for "celebrity" lesbians. anybody who got left out, feel 
free to respond now.

My next article, is "LESBIGAYS ONLINE", a sort of guide to what's available to via modem, for lesbians, bis, and gays. Any input you have, or any references you'd like to refer me to (books, people, etc.), would be greatly appreciated.

Hopefully, you'll see these in print in the next 6 months or so.

Thanks, Gertie
Newsgroups: ba.motss
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Stuck at SFO, what to do?
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:58:24 GMT

In article <1eh3nmINN6vs@mizar.usc.edu> adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
>> well, you could save your money and try to standby for the next flight
>> out to your destination (if there is one between your arrival and
>> scheduled departure).
>And miss the hat show in the international terminal? Are you kidding?

It's the United domestic terminal, actually, if anyone cares.
It seems to have been there _awfully_ long; I've been to SF and back
at least 3 times now that it's been up, and I lost my fascination
with it a while ago. 

Why can't they put a Matisse or Kandinsky exhibit there?

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Stuck at SFO, what to do?
Date: 20 Nov 92 06:35:12 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Xiola Blue

dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:

>Why can't they put a Matisse or Kandinsky exhibit there?

What, and make it another museum?  How about giving passengers a shot at
air traffic control?  They could try and safely navigate the planes
stacked up like buttermilk pancakes for the ILS 28R... all those old
Raytheon tubes would look kitsch, and ...

Maybe a Tom of Finland exhibit would be better.
-- 
a flying squirrel is: richard@apple.com  Apple Computer Inc.

i'm your girl            friend
i'm your squirrel        friend
i'm your round the world friend

"In America, we can't even get corruption right."  - my CFII.
Newsgroups: ba.motss
From: rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams)
Subject: Re: Stuck at SFO, what to do?
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, California
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:48:11 GMT

> jkusters@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chrome Jester) writes:
>I'm gonna be stuck at the San Francisco airport for 3 or so hours in mid
>December.  Since I'm gonna be taking a 5 hour plane ride immediately
>following, I don't think I'm gonna feel much like waiting around reading.
>Anyone have some ideas of what I could do for 3 hours (between 8 and 11) in
>South San Francisco?  I won't have a lot of money to run up to the City or
>anything...

If this is 8-11 *pm*, you could hop a cab over to the
Basque Cultural Center, on Railroad Avenue in South
San Francisco, for the best rack of lamb in the Bay
Area (yummmmm!).  Tons of food at very reasonable
prices...

If this is 8-11 *am*, you're on your own... :-)
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Newsgroups: ba.motss
From: jessica@wrs.com (Jessica Hart)
Subject: Profito rolls
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:02:04 GMT



Thanks for the comprehensive list of friendly Bay Area restaurants!
I did have to stare at the phrase "profito rolls" in one description
before I realized "profiteroles" was intended. In case anyone else
was confused. This could be important because, if you can find a nice
profiterole, you are going to have a lovely time eating it! You might
even go out of your way to get it. Whereas I wouldn't cross the street
for a profito roll.
From: rchilder@us.oracle.com (Richard Childers)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: New UCSF AIDS study
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:29:46 GMT
Organization: Memes-R-Us
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

walsh@optilink.UUCP (Mark Walsh) writes:

>I just heard the results of a new sex study on the radio.
>Ten thousand people were polled nationwide by the
>Center for Aids Prevention Study under the auspices of
>the University of California at San Francisco.
				.
				.
				.
>Condoms seem to be a very small price to pay compared
>to losing one's life in a long grueling illness.  In
>California, a the percentage motorists who wear
>seatbelts is greater than the percentage of sexually
>active people who wear condoms.  Ten years ago when
>most of us became aware of AIDS, I predicted that the
>need for safer sex was going to virtually wipe out
>accidental pregnancies.  I was wrong.  My question is,
>why don't more people wear condoms when having sex?
>Am I naive, or should I be flamed for asking this?


Well, as a friend of mine has said before, "DNA is Nature's way of making
more DNA.", IE, reproductive instincts are not lightly diverted into other
channels than those it is accustomed to flow in.

So, while there is a strong incentive, _rationally_, to wear something, I
would guess that there is a strong countercurrent to not wear anything and
take a chance on creating a new life. ( Unfortunately, this is not simple
to cope with when it happens, but I'm talking 'in principle' here. )

This tendency decreases, I think, as one gets older and better able to take
in hand one's wilder impulses, but never entirely disappears. And, while I
might go out on a limb and say that women are more likely to insist on such
devices being used, this is not always the case, in my experience, and I've
known women to lie and say they were on The Pill, when they were _not_. I'd
guess this might be another manifestation of that tendency of DNA to create
more DNA no matter _what_ our desire might _consciously_ be ...

Personally speaking, I'd as soon wrap my tongue in latex as wear anything on
my doppelganger ... it's just not quite as fun.		< sigh >


-- richard

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From: street_patrol@joes.garage.com
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Street Patrol of San Francisco wants you!
Date: 17 Nov 92 08:45:26 GMT
Distribution: ba

Be one of the Few and the Fabulous!  Street Patrol of San Francisco is a 
community volunteer anti-violence group, of primarly lesbian, gay, and 
bisexual people dedicated to stopping the violence in the Castro and other 
neighborhoods.  We patrol from midnight until 0230 on Friday nights and 
2200 hrs until 0100 hrs on Saturday night.

We offer training in San Francisco on self-defense and intervention techniques
at:
* 2130 hrs Friday nights at the Aikido Arts Center,  670 South Van Ness Street
* 1500 hrs Saturday afternoon at Dolores Park, behind the tennis courts 
   close to Dolores and 18th Street
If you wish to attend a training, please wear loose clothing and be prepared
to engauge in physical activity.

Street Patrol of San Francisco is always looking for new patrollers.  No
minimum number of patrols per week or any exceptional physical prowess are
required.  Before going out on patrol, three training sessions are required.

For more information you may send mail to street_patrol@joes.garage.com or
call 415-985-7423.