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From: mikem@u.washington.edu (Mike McKinnon)
Subject: UofP and UW colors
Organization: UW Medical Center, Dept. of Radiology
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:47:04 GMT

Could someone please tell me what the jersey colors are for both University of
Pacific and for University of Wisconsin?  I realize this sounds trivial and it
probably is but it would really help me out.  Thanks.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: skipb@cwis.unomaha.edu (Martin L. Burrell)
Subject: Re: CAN ANYONE BEAT THE HUSKIES?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: seattle
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 05:48:52 GMT

Well, in a couple of weeks, we're sure gonna try! I don't know all that's 
going on, but Tom Osborne has sure been smiling alot this month.

GO HUSKERS!!

Skip

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From: wks_sup@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (Workstation Support)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: LSU is a great univ (was Re: A&M-LSU  (was: Re: NCSU!))
Keywords: nn
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:43:42 GMT
Organization: Chevron

Goober writes:
>(CJohn Mace) writes:
>>J.J. Clyde expounds:
>>>Hey cmuck.  I'll be in Death Valley Saturday.  Maybe I'll see ya; in
>
>Cmuck, make him buy you something to eat after the game.  If A&M wins by 
>more than 10, he has to come up here to College Station and buy me something
>to eat.  

Hi.

I am new to all of this net stuff -- in fact, this is my first post.  I think 
its really neat-o and I like talking to you guys.

Just my simple opinion:

I didn't go to LSU (I hear its awesome), I've never seen LSU's campus 
(I hear its really beautiful), nor have I seen Tiger Stadium (I hear its 
steeped in tradition).
 
But boy does their football team REEK.  I mean, Curley Hallman is no good, 
those 8 returning defensive starters and 9 returning offensive starters were
*never* any good, and that #1 recruiting class in the nation is probably 
overrated, too.

Those nice Texas Aggies will beat the Tigers by at least 42.  

Oh, the Aggies are neat-o, too.  In fact, if I were an Aggie fan, I'd bet 
that mean ol' J.J. fella all kinds of meals and money *and* give him the 42 points.

I mean, who does he think he is.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Subject: Re: Schmidt Computer Rankings
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:30:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.231904.9124@cco.caltech.edu> schmke@cco.caltech.edu (Kevin Todd Schmidt) writes:
>What follows are my rankings for the end of last year.  I am using these
>as my preseason rankings although there weight will diminish and be
>negligible after the first few weeks of the season.
>
>Based on these rankings my picks are:
>
>	Texas A&M over Stanford by 3
>	Iowa      over NC State by 4

	A&M 10, Stanford 7-----wow, nice pick!

>Kevin
>
>															 Schedule
>Rank Team                      Points  Record Strength
>------------------------------------------------------
>1    Washington               101.507  12-0-0  77.162
                               ^^^^^^^
>68   Wisconsin                 65.840   5-6-0  67.829
                                ^^^^^^
   I suppose this means Wash should beat UW by about 36 right?? And
   make it about 40 with the homefield advantage? I'm gonna go out
   on an limb early, although quite a weak limb I might add, and say
   that UW will stay within 3 TDs of the mighty Huskies. A tougher
   schedule might keep UW's record around .500 again, but this is a
   much-improved team. The OL in particular will be way better than
   last year's version.

   I'm kinda interested in to what the perception of the UW program is
   to college football fans around the country. While hopes are always
   high around here, we've never had recruiting classes like Alvarez has
   attracted to this program. Also what are the thoughts up in the great
   northwest. Is there even any apprehension about facing a young, up-and-
   coming team? (BTW, 11 years ago a similar UW team upset #1 Michigan 21-14
   in the season opener) I'm sure Cliff could answer that last question.

   --salty

   BTW, in a recent posting someone was mentioning a great comeback foiled
   by the refs. UW's near win in the '63 Rose Bowl ('62 season) had to be
   one of the best *almosts* in Bowl history. Down 42-14 to USC one play 
   into the 4th quarter, the Badgers staged a ferocious comeback that fell
   just short at 42-37. Present AD Pat Richter caught 11 passes for 63
   yards in that game. I also heard that UW was driving when time ran out
   on them. Boy, isn't it funny how fans of teams with no modern-day
   tradition to speak of will reach back to the past, even losses, for
   remembered glory. ;)



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From: mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson)
Subject: Re: SI Preseason Top 20
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 12:06:15 GMT

wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:

>And notice how California has 5 teams in Bowls to begin with.  :-)

point taken.

>But my comment was more directed about the problem of only one
>team from the PAC-10 in the SI poll, not about the other teams
>from California.   

I'm not trying to defend SI specifically, just stir up some ECMB. :-)

>Clemson was still the ACC champ.

But at that time, they were probably not the best team in the ACC.
The days of Clemson dominance are over.

>Michigan is in the Eastern Time Zone.  They get help from it.

I suppose.  And as far as UW thumping michigan, I would like to
dredge up:

1.  So did FSU ("wah!  FSU didn't beat 'em that bad...")
2.  And we have already established that when discussing Michigan,
    we may remove select plays from the opponents.  So let me apply
    that here.  "If you took away all of UW's td's and fg's, Michigan
    would have won."
3.  The B1? champ taking a spanking from the P10 champ is hardly news.

>I'm from the East Coast myself.

No, I mean I'm *really* east coast.  Like, the east coast pretty
much ends at my front door.  So I think that makes me in charge
of the ECMB.  :-)

Michael Nelson
From: X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Stanford vs A&M
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:46:44 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University

In article <pxcnc7c.dchuk@netcom.com>
    dchuk@netcom.com (Denise Chuk) writes:
 
>
>Well, A&M did beat Stanford last night, but I would say a really BAD, and I
>mean BAAAAADD call by the zebras helped too.  A turnover in such a close
>game sure can made a big difference.  (I don't mean to belittle A&M's win,
>but the stupid call really could, and IMHO did affect the outcome.)
 
Get real.  That play by Frazier was great!  It wasn't interferance,
and his hand was clearly under the ball for the INT (despite what the
idiot game announcers said).
 
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From: dnoble@alnitak.usc.edu (Douglas Noble)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Trojan News
Date: 3 Sep 1992 18:25:25 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: alnitak.usc.edu

The 66-0 score for USC-Cal is accurate.
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 92 18:36:23 CST
From:         Bapi Gupta <C31801AG@WUVMD>
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:      Re: college football pool info (wanted)
Newsgroups:   rec.sport.football.college

>
>In article <1992Aug25.213744.11728@tamsun.tamu.edu>, matthew@zoot.tamu.edu
>(Matthew Almand) says:
>
>I remember the college football pool from last season...
>Has anyone seen any info about it? I'm interested in participating
>in it. Thanks for the info...
>

I haven't heard from Chris Stassen for a long time either...

In a bind I could take over for him.  I wrote a program to
score the his pool over the bowl games - since I was so
curious as to where everyone was standing halfway through
the games (and he was on vacation).

I could do it by the weekend of September 5th...  We'll
see if Chris shows up for a few more days, I don't want
step on his toes if he's still around :-)

Bapi
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Subject: Dust settles - ASU QB Garrick McGee suspended one game
Organization: Arizona State Univ, Tempe
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:12:16 GMT


     Garrick McGee will be suspended one game in
connection with his involvment in several thefts
from stores last fall.  He must also face the
wrath of the criminal justice system, of course.

     Freshman Troy Rauer will be fed to the dogs
this Saturday night.  Coach Snyder says, "He's
a hell of an athlete, and can throw the ball
farther than any of our other quarterbacks, but
his accuracy isn't very good."  Should be good
for a few yucks.

     Ok, here's what we do.  We take all them
dead donkeys and stack 'em up on the line of
scrimmage.  Then, when the Huskies go nuts with
blood fever and start knawing on 'em, we sneak
past 'em and score a touchdown.

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
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From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Top 25 SUBMISSION
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:02:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Virginia

Sorry to have to post this, but mail to ADDRESS@WLSU (or whatever the address
was on the post about this) isnt good enuf for my system. So, unable to use
the 'r' key, I must post my top 25, and subject it to the ridicule and woofing
of r.s.f.c fans:


1. Florida St.
   Miami   (tie, to be determined when they meet)
3. Washington
4. Florida
5. Penn St.
6. Alabama
7. Michigan
8. Stanford
9. Iowa
10. Tx A&M
11. Notre Dame
12. Clemson
13. Arkansas
14. Oklahoma
15. Nebraska
16. Tenessee
17. E. Carolina
18. Ohio St.
19. Virginia
20. Tx Tech
21. Ga Tech
22. NCSU
23. Michigan St.
24. Auburn
25. Navy

DISCLAIMERS: I do not read prediction mags, etc. so this poll is based on
many things, inlcuding my impressions from last season, gut feelings, and
personal likes and dislikes, but not on scouting reports. Obviously, ND
is probably a top 10 team, but its nice to see a poll that puts them not
in the top ten. As for Navy, hell they deserve a vote.

This poll is probably no more of a work of fantasy than any other pre-season
poll. I hope whoever is doing this continues this during the season: it 
would be nice to have a r.s.f.c. poll to compare to AP and UPI. Plus,
rfsc's poll will show a greater diversity of woofin--i mean, viewpoints.

-rob
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From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Rob Butera)
Subject: Re: Palmetto Football Tuesday #1 - September 1
Keywords: South Carolina Clemson
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 02:10:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.050231.9121@hubcap.clemson.edu>, trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight) writes:
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
|>                 Palmetto Football Tuesday #1 - September 1
|> 
|>   questions and comments to: Trevor Bauknight - trev@hubcap.clemson.edu 
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> 
|> Welcome to the inaugural issue of the Palmetto Football Tuesday.  With
|> this issue I hope to begin a regular contribution to r.s.f.c. regarding, 
|> of course, South Carolina's state religion.  I will devote space each 

Kudos to Trevor for doing this.  I would be GREATLY indebted to anyone who
would do the same thing for the state just to the south, maybe title it
"Peaches and Peanuts and Bibles on Sunday."  If its too much work, even a
semiregular "Rambling Wreck Review" would be nice :)  (I'll volunteer to
report on the Tech-Baylor game, if its any help).

-- 
Rob Butera - ECE grad student   Rice University, Houston, TX   rbutera@rice.edu

 "I do not feel obliged to believe that same God who endowed us with sense,
  reason, and intellect had intended for us to forgo their use."  - Galileo
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college,rec.sport.football.pro
From: "Sid Kitchel" <kitchel@moose.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: thurman thomas/barry sanders commercial
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 10:11:30 -0500

cooperr@a.cs.okstate.edu (COOPER ROBERT BRYA) writes:

|>I saw a cute commercial the other day.
|>This is not intended to start an ongoing
|>debate about who the best running back in
|>the NFL is, merely to relate a cute
|>commercial.

|>It was a commercial for Oklahoma State football
|>tickets with both Thurman Thomas and Barry
|>Sanders and it went something like this:

|>Barry Sanders:  I'm often asked who the best running back in the NFL is.
|>                I'm not sure I can answer that question, but my friend,
|>                Thurman Thomas, can answer it for you.
|>Thurman Thomas: Thanks for putting me in the hot seat, Barry.  I am not
|>                sure who the best running back in the NFL is either, but
|>                I bet he went to Oklahoma State.

	Not being a real betting person, I won't bet with Thurmon. I
will say that I KNOW who the best NFL running back is. He happens to
wear silver and blue.

						soONEr born!!!,
						(trying to be gracious
						 to poor aggies/'pokes)
							   --Sid


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: Tired of UT fans?
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:17:36 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <2SEP199217541332@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov writes:

> In article <1992Sep1.151642.13404@menudo.uh.edu>, HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes...
> 
> >  There are several awfully good schools in Texas.  But there is only one place
> >as big, good, and peculiar as Texas A&M. 
> > 
> 
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't UT at least as big?  As for who's more 
> peculiar, well, I'm not from Texas, so I couldn't say.
> R Dendy

  It is in fact bigger.  I meant all three in combination.

semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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From: gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Past MNC's
Keywords: Dickinson System
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:44:50 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


The system that had Ga.Tech #1 in 1928, I believe was the Dickinson rating
system.  I'm not sure.  If its not that, it might be INS (International
New Service, I think), its the same one that had Tech #1 in 1952.  The
year Tech went 11-0 and won either the Sugar or Orange Bowl, and lost out
in the AP/UPI to 9-0 MSU, which hadn't played in a bowl that year.
-- 
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From: steve@nova.eng.wayne.edu (Steve Phillips)
Subject: Re: Shameless OSU woofing enclosed
Organization: Engineering Computer Center
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:04:21 GMT

Hmm.. 31-0, was it?  That'd barely make up for last year.

Last time they played down there, God-to-be John Cooper elected to go for it
on his own 35, fourth-and-two, with 2:00 left, and a tie score.  As it turned
out, a tie would have sent them to the Rose Bowl, I believe.  But we all recall
what happened, don't we?

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From: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: acc football fsu style
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:59:21 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Organization: Florida State University

In article <67521@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6363a@prism.gatech.EDU (John Hoang) writes:
>[stuff deleted...]
>>                            As to the rest of the ACC, I stand by my
>>statement that we have too much talent for them, at the present time.
>>However, Clempsun will be the third most difficult game we play this
>>year, though it may be the most significant. (bear with me, this
>>conference stuff is hard to adjust to)
>How about posting your predictions on FSU vs. ACC teams this year?

Easy.

If you were around a few months ago, you'd know that I predicted a loss
to Clempsun, and an 8-3 record for the 'Noles. Since then, a few things
have changed. The defense looks to be one of the best ever, if not THE
best. The receivers (major weakness lst year) have been most impressive
so far in fall practice. Overall, things are shaping up much better than
I imagined. Therefore, I revise the original estimate, and say that
we'll win the ACC, loose only to Miami, and once again be hoping for 4
teams ahead of us to loose for use to win an MNC. 

>I will print it at the end of the season and mail it to you so you
>can eat it :-) 

No problem. As close as we've come the past 5 years, you think it'd
bother me?

David Poore
poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu
From: ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Trojan News
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:44:05 GMT
 <DPASSAGE.92Sep2164425@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <DPASSAGE.92Sep2164425@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU>,
dpassage@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU (David Paschich) says:
>In article <laagj1INNbar@aludra.usc.edu>,
>        bkowal@aludra.usc.edu (Brian A. Kowal) writes:
>   I still find it interesting that Russell White wanted to come to USC,
>   but was not accepted due to poor academic standing.  Of course Cal
>   took him as quick as possible...
>
>Because Cal took the trouble to find out _why_ his academic progress
>was so bad, and helped him solve the problem.  He's now got a better
>GPA than I do, for christ's sake.

     Pardon me?  I will agree that Russell White is having surprisingly
good academic success at Cal, but to be honest Cal had absolutely no
business accepting him in the first place (*especially* as a school that
would like to be considered at the top academically).  Yes, he has
dyslexia, but no, Cal didn't know that when they begged for his services.
He wasn't diagnosed until well into his Golden Bear football career.
     I'm flabbergasted by the Jason Kidd deal, too... How can a school
which would like to be considered along with Stanford as a premier
university possibly justify welcoming all of these Proposition 48 ath-
letes?  Okay, Jason Kidd isn't Prop 48... He passed his SATs on his
last chance (attempt number seven or so?).
     I'd expect this from an acknowledged football factory like Miami
(no offense to Miami woofers), but not Cal...

Brett
From: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Trojan News
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:56:53 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Organization: Florida State University

In article <1992Sep3.204035.17440@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
>  And in that vein, there's FSU's "indian music", which they play over and over

A relatively recent innovation, and something I could do without. Curse
the fool who wrote that score.

David Poore
poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu
From: 3ZASIB3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: thurman thomas/barry sanders commercial
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:29:32 GMT
 <1992Aug26.101138.25291@news.cs.indiana.edu> <14317@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
Distribution: na
Organization: Central Michigan University

Emmett Smith is outstanding and so is Thurman Thomas.  Let's not forget about
Eric Dickerson, he'll be back in the hunt.  However, the question was not
who is great but who's the best -- Barry Sanders wins going away!!!!
Bob
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: bnolte@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Bill Nolte)
Subject: Re: Fry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:20:45 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

From article <Sep.3.23.01.52.1992.21661@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, by patricka@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Patrick Anderson):
> 
> Is it true that Hayden Fry has a retractable head?
>  
> Love,
> Xenu

No, but many up here, lately, anyway, wish it was rechargeable.

Bill Nolte
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: SI Preseason Top 20
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:37:57 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

flynn@ocf.berkeley.edu (Owen John Flynn III) wrote:

}	                                             How long will it
}	be before the media realizes that Cal is an up-and-came team?

Perhaps the media thinks Kal is an up-and-came-and-went team?  Afterall,
the coach seemed awfully eager to bail out.

Amid the constant Kal whinings, I have yet to see anything about this
little tidbit:  Remember how much moaning we heard last year about Kal
having to go to the little ol' Citrus Bowl, played on national TV on NYD 
with a $1.35 million payoff?  Well, had the new bowl arrangements been
in place DA BEARZ would have had a guaranteed spot in the prestigious,
non-NYD, $500,000 payout, syndicated TV Freedom Bowl!  Wouldn't that have
been excellent?

1991 PAC-10 Standings:

Washington   8-0                                       --> Rose Bowl
Stanford     6-2    wins over Kal and UCLA             --> Bowl Coalition II
Kal          6-2    win over UCLA, loss to Stanford    --> Freedom Bowl
UCLA         6-2    losses to Kal, Stanford

I'm assuming the tiebreaker for 2nd place in the PAC-10 in head-to-head,
as it is for 1st.  Too bad this thing wasn't in place sooner!

I think the PAC-10 set its sights awfully low in the bowl arrangements.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu

     "I love codfish, I love codfish, I love codfish balls!"
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