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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:23:12 EDT
Reply-To:     T350134@UNIVSCVM.BITNET
From:         T350134@UNIVSCVM.BITNET
Subject:      homicide stats

I am putting this out to the list after some fairly thorough searching on the
part of myself and some colleagues with not very good results.  I do research
on Colombia South America and have recently had that work criticized for the
homicide stats being dated [they are from 1988].  Between myself and a couple
of friends, we have checked the Statistical Abstract for LatAm, the CIA Factboo
k, current stats put out by the Colombian Embassy and keep coming up with zip.
Can anyone suggest another direction?

Thanks in advance,
Patricia McRae
USC-Coastal CArolina College
T350134@UNIVSCVM
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Comments:     Warning -- original Sender: tag was GOMIDE@BRFAPQ
From:         gomide@FPSP.FAPESP.BR
Subject:      Apologies re: InterMeta course

PLEASE DO NOT SEND MONEY !
It is with regret that I perform this task. Dr. Gelson V. Gomes. a
professor of the University of Parana, Brazil, has exceeded this
privileges and announced a eletronic course:

> ____________________________________________________________
>        Mastering INTERNET Tools, Seizing METANET Power -
>                      The InterMeta Course
> ____________________________________________________________

I must apologize for this flagrant breach of network etiquette. Please
be aware that Dr. Gelson had no right to do so, since this is against
the rules of our ANSP network, and also against the Bitnet rules.
PLEASE DO NOT SEND MONEY!
I will not discuss what his motivations were. But his account has been
revoked, and there will be no such course through my network.

Please write by normal mail, to:
-> Gelson V. Gomes
-> 358, R. Alvaro Andrade - ap.1201
-> Curitiba PR BRAZIL 80610-240
to get more information on his objectives. He may want to give the
course by normal mail.  :-)

With regards,
--
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Software Supervisor     | Rua Pio XI, 1500 - CEP 05468-901 - Sao Paulo
<gomide@fapq.fapesp.br> | FAX (11)261-4167 Telex (11)82014 - Brazil
(ACG8) - .BR Domain Technical Contact. |
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Date:         Sat, 3 Oct 1992 06:46:28 -0400
From:         Anthony Ng <CCENGNM@NUSVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: SCI network connection

To whoever taking the count, COUNT ME IN !!!!

---------
*****************************************************************
* Anthony Ng                        * "Don't Look Back !"       *
* Systems Programmer                *      Luke 9:62            *
* NATIONAL UNIVERSITY OF SINGAPORE  * "Batteries NOT included,  *
* Bitnet : CCENGNM@NUSVM            *  neither any guarantte."  *
*****************************************************************
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:02:06 EDT
From:         "Michael Wasilewski,
              Manager Technical Operations" <MWAS@DUVM.OCS.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: SCI network connection

so did you call and be the 12th supporter?
From: RWWMAINT@MSU.BITNET (Richard W Wiggins)
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Subject: Re: Application iniated backups
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:21:45 GMT
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              2 Oct 1992 21:13:00 GMT from <0001007026@MCIMAIL.COM>

>We'd like to allow users to do application "backups".  I use the term
>"backups" loosely so as not to prejudiced towards/against either
>VMARCH/VMBACKUP.
>
>Things we've considered:

How about.....

5) User application is quiesced, then an exec does the necessary
DDR operations to take a physical dump of all minidisks to a
single tape set.

+ Physical dump, so it handles any sort of data, all in sync
  all at once
+ Reasonably fast
+- Multiple tapes handled, but no catalog, easy to clobber tape
- Physical dump, so you can't do a file-level restore or a
  partial restore in case of tape problems
- Some people remember old DDR horror stories
- An old snapshot won't restore once you sell your last 3380

I'd vote for Archive if I were you, but since every day we do
the above such procedure to dump our entire 10,000 cylinders
of EMC2 (e-mail database) to tape, here's another option.

/Rich Wiggins, Computer Lab, Michigan State U
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:51:24 CST
From:         Jim Colten <IJIM@UMINN1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: SCI network connection
              5 Oct 1992 15:02:06 EDT from <MWAS@DUVM.OCS.DREXEL.EDU>

On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:02:06 EDT Michael Wasilewski, Manager Technical Operations
>so did you call and be the 12th supporter?

If this note was intended for ME, I was one of the original 11.
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:04:10 CST
From:         "George R. Bancks" <SPGRB@LATECH.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: SCI network connection
              5 Oct 1992 15:02:06 EDT from <MWAS@DUVM.OCS.DREXEL .EDU>

Yes, I did and I was the seventeenth caller as of today at 14:00 CST.

Respectively Yours,
George R. Bancks           Manager of Academic Systems, Computing Center
Louisiana Tech University, PO Box 3184,                 Ruston, LA  71272
Voice: (318) 257-2893      Data:  (318) 257-2289        Fax: (318) 257-3645
Bitnet: SPGRB@LATECH       Internet: SPGRB@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 11:40:12 EDT
From:         Gary Sponseller <SPONSELL@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: SCI network connection

On Sat, 3 Oct 1992 06:46:28 -0400 Anthony Ng said:
>To whoever taking the count, COUNT ME IN !!!!

To Anthony and any others who want "counted" on this,

You *MUST* contact SCI by phone to officially be counted on the
Enhancement Request # 42626.  Do not assume that SCI reads this
list and is adding you automatically!
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:13:00 GMT
From:         Joseph A Schunk <0001007026@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Application iniated backups

I'm looking for suggestions on the following problem:

We'd like to allow users to do application "backups".  I use the term
"backups" loosely so as not to prejudiced towards/against either
VMARCH/VMBACKUP.

At various points in the day/week/month users do mass update of their
database. They would like to freeze the data at a point in time so that
they have known point of recovery if things get all hosed up.

A user exec needs to initiate a "backup" sequence wait for its completion
syncronously, and then continue with the database load/refresh/whatever.

Things we've considered:

1) VMTAPE and MOVEFILE, TAPE DUMP, etc.
 	+ no special priveleges required by end users

     	- no catalog, not very friendly, not easily queryable

2) VMARCH - we have some staging and of course offline, no "DASD"

     	+ users are familiar with VMARCH

     	+ we know how to query for jobs enqueded and hold the submitting
exec until complete.

     	- haven't thought of good way to initiate the processing of OFFLINE
requests immediately (files are typically large-ish to large).

3) VMBACKUP

     	+ we know how to query for jobs enqueded and hold the submitting
exec until complete.
     	- template administration

     	- no granularity in ADMIN commands to create template, execute A
SPECIFIC job.

     	- concerns on how to initate the processing of backup job

4) Seperate SVM for either VMARCH or VMBACKUP where operator/admin
functions could be given to users without endangering the SYSTEM wide ones.

      -+ Have only just begun looking at this.

Any ideas/pointers would be appreciated.

-- Joe

  +------------------------------------------------------------+
  |  MCI Mail:  JSchunk or 100-7026                            |
  |  Telex (MCI/WUI): 6501007026   Ans: 6501007026MCI UW       |
  |  Internet:  JSchunk@MCIMail.Com                            |
  |  X.400: G=joseph; S=schunk; ADMD=mci; C=us;                |
  +------------------------------------------------------------+
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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 04:13:00 BSC
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From:         GELSON GOMES <GELSON@BRFAPESP.BITNET>
Subject:      Mastering INTERNET TOOLS

         "Mastering INTERNET Tools, Seizing METANET Power" -
                    "The InterMeta Course"

     Begining on October 10, the InterMeta Course will describe
the History of the Metanetwork and cover the basic utilities used
to access the network, as well as to guide users through the
Internet's, Bitnet's, (and othernets') "databases of databases"
to access files and archives available. Some of the topics to be
presented in the InterMeta Course are how to (1)Remote Login,
(2)Use Electronic Mail, (3)Move a File, (4)Find Software,
(5)Locate a Person, (3)Deal with Network Problems. An index that
covers a selection of resources available on the Internet,
ranging from Card Catalogs to Archives for USENET news will also
be delivered.
     In addition, some sessions will help UNIX, VMS, VAX and DOS
users to interface their systems to the Net.
     Resulting from five years of researching and using the
Network, the InterMeta Course is being prepared by Gelson
Gomes, Ph.D. The InterMeta is the first experience of a Global
Scale Course utilizing a matrix of connected networks, the
Metanetwork.
     Dr. Gomes is a professor at the Federal University of Parana
and is conducting research on the Computer Industries of Brazil
and Taiwan. He got his Doctoral Degree on Science and Technology
Public Policy at The George Washington University (Washington
D.C.).
     The course will be ministered from Brazil; to help
recovering local communication costs, (PDN is very expensive in
Brazil) a flat $ 5 US dollars donation is requested.
     To enroll in the InterMeta Course, please fill in the
application bellow and E-Mail to: Gelson@BRFAPESP.
____________________________________________________________
       Mastering INTERNET Tools, Seizing METANET Power -
                     The InterMeta Course
____________________________________________________________
                        APPLICATION FORM

Name:
Institution:
Highiest Degree Earned:
City:               Country:

__ Yes, I am sending US$ 5 dollars
     (or the equivalent on my own currency)

Mail your check to:
Gelson V. Gomes
358, R. Alvaro Andrade - ap.1201
Curitiba PR BRAZIL 80610-240
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Alvaro Andrade - ap.1201
Curitiba PR BRAZIL 80610-240
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:46:16 EDT
From:         "Nick Gavrielatos" <ucnick@SOCRATES.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      INTERNET Connection Costs

While I know about BITNET and the cost it would involve to
make such connection, I need to ask if any of you has an
idea about an average cost connecting to internet, so I
get an idea of what to expect. I have already contacted
alternet here in our area, which provides internet connection,
but its taking them long to reply.

Please send your answers here to me, instead of the l-vmctr list.

Thanks,

Nick Gavrielatos
ucnick@socrates.umd.edu
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 08:39:21 PDT
From:         "Russell N. Hathhorn, VM Systems Support" <SYSMAINT@PCCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: SCI network connection

OK - I'm on the list now

According to the voice on the other end - the count = 16

+---------------------------------------------+-------------------------------+
|   Russell N. Hathhorn                       |  Bitnet: SYSMAINT@PCCVM       |
|   VM Systems Programmer/Analyst             |  Compu$erve: 76636,1036       |
|   Portland Community College                |  Voice: (503) 244-6111 x 4705 |
|   12000 S. W. 49th Avenue                   |  Fax:   (503) 324-7010        |
|   Portland, Oregon  97219-0990              |  "     Just say NO to OCO   " |
+---------------------------------------------+-------------------------------+
| "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms... The strongest reason |
|  for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last         |
|  resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."              |
|  Thomas Jefferson - Proposal Virginia Constitution, June 1776               |
|  Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 (C. J. Boyd, Ed., 1950).                      |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: IJIM@UMINN1.BITNET (Jim Colten)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.l-vmctr
Subject: SCI network connection
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:31:58 GMT
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SCI tracking number 42626 asks that SCI acquire a BITNET or INTERNET connection
so that those who do not have IBMMAIL can contact SCI electronically.

While calling about another topic, I asked our friendly SCI support person
"What is the status of tracking #42626?"  "Well let's see ..... eleven people
have called to support the idea"

ELEVEN?  Is that it?  Are there only eleven sites out there who would benefit
from this and are willing to spend the time and money for a two minute phone
call?

Say it ain't so, Joe!

Or perhaps the rest us us just figure that everyone else will take care of it.
Well, everyone else is not taking care of it, so if you would benefit from
network access to SCI, PLEASE call them.
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:46:13 +0100
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: File Forwarding to Internet Nodes
              30 Sep 1992 11:51:55 EDT from The Crosswell Mailer List
              <XMAILER@FINHUTC>

On Wed, 30  Sep 1992 11:51:55 EDT  Jim Foster <MADIF@ROHVM1.ROHMHAAS.COM>
said:

>Actually, I  think that 10646 has  been approved. You should  be able to
>order a copy of the standard  1st quarter '93. While 10646 is extensible
>to 4-byte encoding, the first version uses two-bytes/char.

Oh, that was not  my concern. I mean, X.400 was approved  in 84 (I think)
and it doesn't  look like it's ever  going to catch. My  concern was more
technical:

1. You first have  to convince people to accept spending 2  or 4 times as
   much  money on  disk  space for  the  same service.  While  I am  sure
   convincing the Japanese  will be easy, and while it  might be possible
   in Europe, my guess is that you will have a hard time in the US.

2. Once this is  done, you have to convince the  world to change billions
   of lines  of code to handle  character strings where one  character is
   not one byte. In fact it seems pretty difficult to do without changing
   the programming languages first.

In other words, we're talking 10 to 20 years.

  Eric
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:46:34 +0200
From:         "Lawrence S. Kalman" <VSLAWR@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>
Subject:      Change to BSMTP RCPT TO: header line

I sent a mail item to our XMailer (R2.08 PTF010) which had the following
BSMTP header:

HELO WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL
MAIL FROM:<VSLAWR@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>
RCPT TO: </PN=Robinson_Louise/OU=GBXOM01/O=ICI C+Ts/C=GB/ADMD=TMAILUK/PRMD=ICI/
@sprint.com>
DATA

QUIT

XMailer relayed the file to our SMTP mailer with the following header:

HELO WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL
TICK 1230
MAIL FROM:<VSLAWR@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>
RCPT TO:</PN=Robinson_Louise/OU=GBXOM01/O=ICI.C+Ts/C=GB/ADMD=TMAILUK/PRMD=ICI/@
sprint.com>
DATA

QUIT

Note that a blank space in the RCPT TO: address was changed to a dot.  Is this
a bug?  The recipient X.400 gateway didn't like the dot.

- Lawrence
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:16:50 +0100
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: File Forwarding to Internet Nodes
              29 Sep 1992 09:57:24 CDT from The Crosswell Mailer List
              <XMAILER@FINHUTC>

On Tue, 29 Sep 1992 09:57:24 CDT "(David E Boyes)" <dboyes@IS.RICE.EDU>
said:

>I understand that a ISO 10646 character set option is under
>discussion. Since ISO 10646/Unicode II covers just about every
>character encoding in the industrialized world, and most of the
>others too, this might be an acceptable way to look at it.

If that is one of these 4-bytes character set codes, I'm afraid they are
a long, long, long way down the road.

>I'm a bit confused by what you mean here. Faster in terms of
>development time? If so, then yes, I agree. If you mean faster in
>the general case, I think that something like this in a heavily
>used production service will be called enough times to warrant
>the extra time spent to hand-tweak the assembler into submission,
>especially if your users are anything like mine and tend to get
>complete models of the entire Earth's magnetic field strengths from
>various national laboratories on a regular basis via SENDFILE and
>want them forwarded to their Vaxen for more groveling...8-).

No, I meant that:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
mes disk dump osvsam maclib s
RDR FILE 0074 SENT FROM L        PUN WAS 0074 RECS 020K CPY  001 N NOHOLD NOKEEP
VCPU=7.013 TCPU=23.512  Elapsed time: 52.810880 sec  SIO=246
Ready; T=7.03/23.55 18:19:50
mes exec call lsvsf disk,osvsam maclib s
Result: 0
VCPU=2.459 TCPU=6.318  Elapsed time: 21.078419 sec  SIO=124
Ready; T=2.47/6.34 18:21:10
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
I will  add that DISK  uses block I/O  whereas LSVSF uses  regular record
I/O.  DISK is  in assembler,  LSVSF calls  LISTSERV encoding  routines in
PASCAL (the  RDR FILE message  is suppressed, but  the file is  of course
created and  identical). Furthermore DISK  is a totally  unstrategic file
format as far as LISTSERV is concerned  and I certainly did not waste any
time  optimizing that  code. This  isn't to  say that  LSVSF wouldn't  be
faster if  written in assembler,  but just because  you use a  high level
language doesn't mean you will be slower than the native commands.

  Eric
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:56:51 EST
From:         "George Shedlock Jr." <TECHGJS@TSCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      How to send mail to X.400 user

I have the host name of an X.400 user and the specific routing info
(address) of the end user. The question is: How is the To: address
field formatted to reach the end user thru the internet? In my case
I have the following information: (names changed to protect the guilty)
   c=us/s=xxxxxx/g=yyyyyy/i=g for the end user and
   Host.name.com              for the user's gateway host
How do I set up the To: address field to send e-mail to him?
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:49:48 EDT
From:         "Collins, Herman" <SYSHERM@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Problem getting MAILER 2.09 from PUCC
Comments: To: xmailer@uga.BITNET, "Chasney, Victoria" <sysvic@UKCC.uky.edu>

We've been trying to get a copy of the current MAILER from PUCC all
week, but we keep getting an error message from the LISTSERV there:

>A REXX error (Incorrect call to routine) occured while processing your
>command. Part  of the  command output might  have been  lost. LISTSERV
>management has been notified.

We sent mail to postmaster@pucc and to jwagner@princeton.edu but we've
not gotten a reply.  Is someone at Princeton aware of the problem and
working on it?  Is there anywere else we can get the current version?
[We're not in a big hurry: I just wondered what's going on.]  Thanks.

                                    Herman Collins

128 McVey Hall                      Bitnet: SYSHERM@UKCC
University of Kentucky              Internet: sysherm@ukcc.uky.edu
Lexington, Ky.  40506-0045          Phone: 606-257-2256
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:48:58 -0400
From:         jwagner@PRINCETON.EDU
Subject:      Re: File Forwarding to Internet Nodes
Comments: To: Crosswell Mailer <XMAILER@uga.cc.uga.edu>
              01 Sep 92 13:52:21 -0600. <9209012205.AA14602@Princeton.EDU>

> Are there any plans to include file forwarding to internet addresses in
> a future release of Mailer?

I'm open to suggestions for what would be a reasonable approach.  The
problems I see are:

   1)  80 column restriction

       relaxed in 2.09, but still limited to 998

   2)  EBCDIC to ASCII translation in gateway

       "but it used to be a binary file"

   3)  Maximum size limitation

       The 15M gif library.


It would not be all that hard to build appropriate envelopes and do the data
stuffing using pipelines.

    John
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:54:00 EDT
From:         "John F. Chandler" <PEPMNT@CFAAMP.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: FORWARDs not Being Checked if User is not in the CP Directory

>  MAILER is apparently
> checking to see if the user is in the CP Directory at the MAILER
> node before it is reading the FORWARD file to see where the mail
> is really going.

I wasn't aware that Mailer had ever done this.  Could it be a local mod?

> Does either MAILER 2.08 or 2.09 change this?

I'm running 2.08, and it definitely allows me as postmaster to add
forwarding for nonexistant users and then actually handles the forwarding
correctly.
                                       John
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:08:37 +0100
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Change to BSMTP RCPT TO: header line
              5 Oct 1992 14:46:34 +0200 from The Crosswell Mailer List
              <XMAILER@FINHUTC>

On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:46:34 +0200 "Lawrence S. Kalman"
<VSLAWR@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL> said:

>I sent a mail item to our XMailer (R2.08 PTF010) which had the following
>BSMTP header:
>
>RCPT TO: </PN=Robinson_Louise/OU=GBXOM01/O=ICI C+Ts/C=GB/ADMD=TMAILUK/PRMD=ICI/
>@sprint.com>

This is not a  valid mailbox. If there is a space in  the local part, you
have to quote.

  Eric
From: MADIF@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com (Jim Foster)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.xmailer
Subject: Re: File Forwarding to Internet Nodes
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:51:55 GMT
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

In article <XMAILER%92092919302399@FINHUTC.HUT.FI>, Eric Thomas
<ERIC@SEARN.BITNET> says:
>
>On Tue, 29 Sep 1992 09:57:24 CDT "(David E Boyes)" <dboyes@IS.RICE.EDU>
>said:
>
>>I understand that a ISO 10646 character set option is under
>>discussion. Since ISO 10646/Unicode II covers just about every
>>character encoding in the industrialized world, and most of the
>>others too, this might be an acceptable way to look at it.
>
>If that is one of these 4-bytes character set codes, I'm afraid they are
>a long, long, long way down the road.
>
Actually, I think that 10646 has been approved.  You should be able to
order a copy of the standard 1st quarter '93.  While 10646 is
extensible to 4-byte encoding, the first version uses two-bytes/char.
--
Jim Foster - madif@rohmhaas.com          (215) 592-2446 (voice) 592-3377 (FAX)
If you want to be happy for a day, drink...
If you want to be happy for a year, marry...                           DoD 142
If you want to be happy for a lifetime, ride a BMW!              '91 K100RS16V
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