From: williamsk@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Desperately seeking a major)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Request for show info/experiences
Date: 21 Aug 92 06:48:06 EST

In article <2A93F10D.743@ics.uci.edu>, tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore) writes:
> 
> 
> OK, I'm trying to correct my little explanation on the points received
> in a show in the FAQ.  Does this chart look right now?  How about the
> explanation?  Where do the best-in-show's fit in? Do they get points?
> Why would specials compete for points when they already have their CH?
> All comments welcomed, thank you.
> 
> BEGIN EXCERPT
> 
> A Champion must obtain 15 points.  Of those 15 points, two majors (a
> show where 3, 4, or 5 points are won) must be obtained under two
> different judges.  The remaining points can come from 1 or 2 (or
> more!) point shows; at least one of these must be from a third judge.
> A dog must win at least the Winners Dog (WD) or Winners Bitch (WB) to
> get points.  So even if your dog wins a class, you don't necessarily
> get points.  It's only the top two dogs within a breed in competition
> that get points.  You don't get anything for second place, but a
> ribbon, some recognition as an upcoming hopeful, and some experience.
Only the top dog and bitch excluding any champions who get the points.

> 
> Best of Breed (BOB) or Best of Opposite Sex (BOS) may *add* points for
> the dog or bitch that win them, as the total dogs to consider for
> points is now the *greater* of either dogs or bitches with the special
> dogs/bitches added in as well.  This can turn a 2 point win into a
> major.  (Special dogs are dogs with their CH; they do not compete in
> the classes.)
> 
> The number of points obtained at a particular show is dependent on the
> number of dogs or bitches present, the breed, and the geographical
> location of the sho.  There is a point schedule that determines the
> ranges: rarer breeds require fewer dogs for points whereas popular
> breeds must have more dogs present for the same points.
> 
> 
> A short chart:
> 
>                      Best of Breed (points toward CH from largest group,
>                                     incl. specials)
>                            |
>                    Best of Opposite Sex (points toward CH from largest group,
>                                          plus specials of same sex)
>                            |
>                      Best of Winners
>                       /           \
>               Winner's dog    Winner's bitch   (points towards CH from
>                                                 same sex group)
>                /                           \
>    (first in each class advances to Winner's competition; specials
>     compete for Winner's dog or Winner's bitch directly)
>            Open class                  Open class
>            American Bred               American Bred
>            Bred by Exhibitor           Bred by Exhibitor
>            Novice                      Novice
>            Puppy dogs (9 - 12mo.)      Puppy bitches (9 - 12mo.)
>            Puppy dogs (6 - 9 mo.)      Puppy bitches (6 - 9mo.)
> 
> END EXCERPT
> 
I'm confused.  I thought for BOS in order for the dog to get more towards
his championship, then he must beat specials of his OWN sex only.  According
to this, it can be for any sex.  Help!!!

KIM
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