HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Bosch@Sun2.IenD.WAU.NL (Arnold C. Bosch)
Subject: Re: RE: Newsreader
Organization: Wageningen Agricultural University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 12:12:27 GMT

In article <BANYAN-L%92110514021387@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> FFore%CTC%SwRI26@D15VS178A.SPACE.SWRI.EDU writes:


>   HMMM!  The Trumpet Newsreader with the 'shim' for PC/TCP under VINES
> works fine over here with posting.  You have to explicitly give permission
> to each IP node on the USENET News host to allow posting.

>-Frank Fore, Southwest Research Institute, S.A., TX.
> Internet: fpf@swri.edu

Any idea where we can get this Newsreader for Vines under PC/TPC?

Arnold Bosch

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From:         S30110%21518@UTRCGW.UTC.COM
Subject: Re: MEMO 1992/11/05 4:47:40

I have been using the Banscan product and it has helped me discover quit a few
tuning issues on our servers (i.e. Comm buffers, SPP's close to maxing out,
 cache size too small etc.). The one bug I don't like (but haven't had the
 chance to
beat up the vender about) is that it does't free up MS Windows Video resources
properly (the resources displayed when you do "Help/About Windows") it seems
that when a lot of error messages aredisplayed the resources are eaten up
by Banscan, Windows then locks up. but it is otherwise a useful product...
From: scotth@CS.UMR.EDU
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Subject: browser for mail data files
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:56:35 GMT
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In Vines mail program, you can file a message to a disk file.  Is there a
program intelligent enough to find these files on a disk and display them
with as a list similar to a mail screen (i.e. with From Date Subject parts)
and then allow you to select and read these messages?  Is anything smart
enought to read either Vines mail or SMTP mail formats when they are stored
as text files on disk?

Sure, I can append everything to one honking big file, but that gets
cumbersome to find a particular message.  Please let me know of either
commercial or non-commercial programs that will do this.  Thanks!

Thanks for any help!

Scott Hayes
shayes@usgs.gov
From: ICSPMS@ASUACAD.BITNET (Patricia M. Schneider)
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Subject: Async
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:36:16 GMT
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From: Patricia M. Schneider

Ok all you async option gurus!  I have two servers that I've setup the
async option on.  I have setup services on each server and defined them
as async type services, etc.  Now, here's where things start getting
strange.  I setup a connection to CompuServ on one server and got connected
without any problems.  Went to the second server and setup a connection
to CompuServ and kept getting timed out without making the connection.
Now to add to that, every time I execute the "hosts" program, the
async service goes down on that server!  Both servers are running 4.10(5).
I tried doing dynamic settings to test the connection on the second server,
but still no connection.  By the way, these servers are located in two
different departments.

Any clues?

Thanks...

-
Patricia M. Schneider      BITNET   - ICSPMS@ASUACAD
Arizona State University   INTERNET - ICSPMS@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU
Tempe, AZ  85287-0101      VOICE    - (602) 965-2826
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:11:08 EDT
From:         Steve=Skilbeck%Economics%UNIMELB@MUWAYE.UNIMELB.EDU.AU
Subject:      re: Windows 3.1 and Vines -- revisited

Hi,

> Is there a way to log into VINES without getting out of Windows?

This is probably not of much consolation to you, it is from a question and
answer list on csus.edu for Banyan queries.

Query Date: August

Q: Is it possible to login and out of Vines without exiting Windows?

A: No, logging in and out of Vines while in Windows is not supported as of
   Vines rel 4.11, through to 5.00 (x)

Only suggestion I can think of is rev back down to 4.00 (5) on those
machines, which will allow you to login, and out of Vines whilst still in
Windows.


Stephen
From: Stephane=Bourque%Eng%Incognito@TEST.ARTS.SFU.CA
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Subject: re: Pre-Login Message
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:40:05 GMT
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John:

	You can do many funny things with drive Z:...

	To solve your problems, you could write a small app in C
	that you call LOGIN.EXE.  This could display a message
	that is stored on drive Z: and then call the real login.exe
	that you could have renamed BLOGIN.EXE.  Make sure that these
	programs are on Z:\PCINIT and you should be OK!  I know that
	changing the name of the LOGIN.EXE command has no effect. (We
	used to copy the login.exe to l.exe and login with L).

	One drawback:  you will have to verify every patch that you
	apply to make sure they do not modify the LOGIN.EXE program.
	If so, you will need to change some names again...

	Have fun!

	Anyone tried something like this out there ???


	Thanks...


	Stephane Bourque
	Incognito Software Inc.
	Voice:  (604)669-7575
	Fax:    (604)669-7576
	e-mail: stephb@test.arts.sfu.ca

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From: MA=Crist%Info_Sys%STG_IS@DSO3.DSD.TRW.COM
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Subject: re: Windows 3.1 and Vines -- revisited
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:06:30 GMT
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Tom,

Banyan announced at ABUI Boston that login and logout from within Windows
will be supported in the next release of VINES which is due out before year
end.

Mike Crist
TRW
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 09:39:59 EST
From:         Ed=Galvin%ChicagoSupport%Banyan@MAGNOLIA.BANYAN.COM
Subject:      re: PCCONFIG.DB Toolkit Calls

Anthor way to do this would be through a product called the RUS or "Really
Useful Service" by portfolio systems. It allows you to seemlessly attach to a
workstattion using Vines Protocols and essentially take control (PSAttach). You
could then make the changes and force a reboot at that time. You may even be
able to automate the process, but Portfolio would have to answer that question.

                                        --Ed Galvin
                                          Systems Consultant
                                          Banyan Chicago
From: INSF@MCGILLB.BITNET (Shawn Farrell)
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Subject: CD-ROM info
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:13:22 GMT
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Sorry.  I know this subject has been brought up before, but I'm
trying to gather the most complete info possible.

We'd like to set up one or CD-ROMs on our Vines LAN.  We currently
have only CNS server, with Vines 4.11(5).  What exactly do I need
do let users access a CD-ROM.  Am I limited to certain types of CD
players, what software is required and what configuration on the
Vines side is required.

If you'd like to send to me directly instead of to the list, I'll
gladly summarize for the list.

Thanks a lot.

Shawn Farrell
Merck Frosst

insf@musicb.mcgill.ca
From: STRASHEA@ZENO.MSC.COLORADO.EDU
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Subject: Re: Vines and Windows
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:17:35 GMT
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I think the concern is, while you're logged in and RUNNING windows, you are
NOT able to logout your account and login a different banyan account without
completely shutting down windows first.  Hopefully, this will be resolved soon!
 <pray to various Banyan gods...>
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Date: 11 Nov 92 05:58:06 GMT
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To:            sswgate@clbrasc1@servers[ddn.s00305]
Cc:
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From:          INTERNET@ISMO@2d FSSG
Subject:       does this work
Date:          Wednesday, November 11, 1992 at 0:43:55 am EST
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we are having probs w/ out account, please respond so I know this is
working. Thanks
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From:         "(Paul Rijnhout)" <sunatb!pari@RELAY.NLUUG.NL>
Subject:      remove from list

Please remove alsa@atb.bso.nl (Alun Saunders) from the banyan mailing list.

--
Paul Rijnhout (paul@atb.bso.nl, {..sun4nl!}sunatb!paul)
BSO/AT Breda, The Netherlands
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:04:27 EST
From:         Lee Schlesinger <75270.3521@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Banyan reviews

Hmm.  Well, I never felt that pressure at any of the books I worked at.
I'm sorry to hear others have.  Given Mr. Zachman's recent public
disagreements with Ziff-Davis, I wouldn't necessarily assume he's an
unbiased source, but no doubt he's not the only one.

Lee Schlesinger
Editor, ABUI Network News
617-891-6622
From: GBURGESS@MSU.BITNET (Gregory.Burgess)
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Subject: Re: Banscan
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:41:00 GMT
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Corner the market,  Hmmmm.....

-Greg
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From:         Ian.Brabham@CC.MONASH.EDU.AU
Subject:      re: browser for mail data files

Ell'star,

>I have created a program in C which reads the subject line in a file and
>then displays the subject line.  It doesn't display "From", and "Date", but
>you could add that youreslf if so inclined.  I may be so inclined but have
>little time to do it.

How's about putting the source on CSUS so we can all modify it ;-).

Ian Brabham                 email: ian@banyan.cc.monash.edu.au
Micro Support Group         phone: +61 3 565 4742
Monash University           fax:   +61 3 565 4746
Melbourne Australia
From: jabusch@zorro.cecer.army.mil (John Jabusch)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.banyan-l
Subject: Re: Banyan versus Novell
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:58:06 GMT
Organization: US Army Corps of Engineers Construction Engineering Research Labs

"(Richard Warner)" <rick@SJSUMCS.SJSU.EDU> writes:
(In reference to Windows 3.0 client support)

>Novell supplied it for every version later than 2.10, even though it
>came out when 2.15C was shipping.  Banyan required an upgrade to 4.10
>(and did not provide it until >2 years after Windows 3.0 came out).  Same

Given that Microsoft has themselves generally taken an average of two
years to come out with Windows versions AFTER they've been announced, I
don't find this to be a big deal.  This statement only serves to strengthen
what is being said in other newgroups - Microsoft is much kinder to other
LARGE developers like Novell than they are to the little guys, which
Banyan probably is, given market shares and all.

One of the things I never did like about Novell is the retrofit of
lots of software.  Why waste a lot of time putting pieces on old releases
of software?  Incorporate the changes in new releases and make the upgrades
cheap!

-john jabusch
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:57:00 GMT
From:         JEFFREY ROSENBERG
              <JEFFREY_ROSENBERG+la+rTELECOM+la+rPHILA%Dechert+c_Price_&_Rhoads
              @MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Novell

	I know that it has been discussed many times before, but I am looking
for comparitive information about Banyan and Novell.  Some of the things I am
looking to compare include:

	Support staff and adminstrators needed to run a network
	Time required to run a network
	Cost to implement and maintain a network (including upgrades + support)
	Functionality of the network

	For background, we are a 7 site, 1000 user Banyan network on the eeast
coast.  Our network is used mainly for file storage, printer sharing,
electronic mail (with our users and with clients on other mail systems), and
database management.  We are also installing a document management system that
will cover all 7 sites.

	Any information or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

===========================================================================
Jeffrey Rosenberg                    CompuServe: 70700,710
Dechert Price & Rhoads               Internet:   70700.710@compuserve.com
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:06:04 EST
From:         Steve=Sohn%Mktg%Banyan@THING.BANYAN.COM
Subject:      Worgroup for Windows

 Regarding Workgroup for Windows...

Customers will have to wait until Microsoft and Banyan get the products
working together.  Both companies must make changes.  Banyan's plan is to
let Microsoft ship their patched WfW version along with a VINES install
floppy for 4.11/5.00 customers.

Text of the WfW announcement indicating Banyan support and timeframes can
be found in BANFORUM on Compuserve.

Steven Sohn
Banyan Systems, Inc.
From: craiga@SPOCK.DIS.CCCD.EDU (Craig Armstrong)
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Subject: Re: Ethernet addres lib.
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:41:14 GMT
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>
> Not me.  Craig Armstrong was going to send in the library.  However, I think
> is out for a week or two.
>
I just uploaded ENET.ZIP to the incoming dir on csus.edu. So... when
John gets around to it, it should be in the src dir. I suggest using large
model to link. Had probs with small model with the 5.00 toolkit when I
created the test code. Have fun!!!!

--

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:31:00 EST
From:         "Gregory.Burgess" <GBURGESS@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      re: IPCPORT Address for client.

The toolkit has a call to get a NIC address associated with a user/IPC port?!

If so which version of the toolkit?  I have the 5.0 toolkit and haven't found
it yet.

Greg Burgess....
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 12:24:05 EST
From:         "Elliott Coates" <COATES@UMUC.BITNET>
Subject:      Envelope Missing

After a specific user deletes a message and attempts to read another one in
Vines mail she sometimes gets the error message:

VNM3019 -- ENVELOPE FILE FOR THIS MESSAGE IS MISSING

This is the description of the error from vnserr:


********   Help Description   ********

VNM3019 -- ENVELOPE FILE FOR THIS MESSAGE IS MISSING.

   Users should report the appearance of this message to their
   system administrators.  System administrators should check
   the system carefully for configuration and connectivity
   problems, and then contact the appropriate support personnel
   if the problem cannot be corrected.



End of help...

Anyone know why or have good guesses?

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From: coates@UMUC.UMD.EDU (Elliott Coates)
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Subject: RE: browser for mail data files
Date: 7 Nov 92 01:51:34 GMT
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>In Vines mail program, you can file a message to a disk file.  Is there a
>program intelligent enough to find these files on a disk and display them
>with as a list similar to a mail screen (i.e. with From Date Subject parts)
>and then allow you to select and read these messages?  Is anything smart
>enought to read either Vines mail or SMTP mail formats when they are stored
>as text files on disk?

>Scott Hayes
>shayes@usgs.gov

I have created a program in C which reads the subject line in a file and
then displays the subject line.  It doesn't display "From", and "Date", but you
could add that youreslf if so inclined.  I may be so inclined but have little
time to do it.

Elliott Coates
coates@umuc.umd.edu
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From: dbrownfi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Douglas P Brownfield)
Subject: Re: WAIS
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:25:47 GMT

In article <9211051808.AA14537@vax1.cc.uakron.edu> Lou=Janelle%Faculty%WAYNE@BA
NYAN.UAKRON.EDU writes:
>I recently ran a demo of SWAIS, which is a non-graphical Wide Area Information
>Server client.   Telnet sunsite.unc.edu (152.2.22.81) and login as swais.  I
>was impressed with the results.  The retrieval time was a bit long, however.
>
>One can retrieve a DOS client and Windows client from the same site.  The DOS
>client requires one to run a Clarkson Packet driver.  Question:  Where do you
>obtain Clarkson Packet driver from?

If I remember correctly (iffy at best) there was .zip file of alot of drivers 
at boombox.micro.umn.edu
   /pub/pc/packet-drivers/drivers.zip   I believe is it.
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From:         "(Ed Terrell)" <merklin@PTLTD.COM>
Subject: Re: NFS

thanks very much gary
ed
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:40:26 PST
From:         Richard Warner <rick@SJSUMCS.SJSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Banyan reviews

>
> re Zachmann different animal....Misinformation is misinformation - period.
>    Assigning "weights" to the impact of said information based on source
>    is in itself biased by the assignee....
>
> John Krogh
> Rockwell International

But Zachmann was never asked to provide misinformation.  He was
asked to write more articles on other subjects and less on OS/2.
That is neither misinformation or disinformation.  That is a
change in editorial policy, not article content.  Any writer/editor
knows that distinction!   If I am a columnist for a magazine/journal,
and I write several columns praising MyNet, the new network OS from
Fred's Software, my editor may decide I am rankling feathers at
Joes Networking International (an advertiser) and then tell me that
I should write a few articles on something else like CD-ROM drives.
That would make the big-wigs at Joes Networking happier but would not
necessarily produce any misinformation (this is FULLY analogous to
the Zachmann/PC Week situation).  Now if my editor told me to change
my articles so that MyNet did not look as good in comparison to
Joes product, then, assuming I gave in, I would be providing misinformation
(this is what Mike implicitly charged in his comments).  These
are completely different situations, prodice completely different
results, have fairly dissimilar ethical ramifications.  You may not
like either situation, but that does not make them the same.

No one attempted to assign 'weights' to any events.  I only pointed
out that one must make a distinction between one type of event (a
change in editorial policy) vs. a different type of event (a change
in article content).  Use your own moral judgements (I provided none) -
just do not try to provide disinformation in the process.

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From: Ian.Brabham@CC.MONASH.EDU.AU
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Subject: re: TN.EXE and 1MB Trident video Cards
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:35:05 GMT
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Gary Sinton,

>One of our micros has difficulty running TN.EXE. The micro chirps, the video
>locks up, and the only way to revive the video is by rebooting the machine.
>We are running PC/TCP version 2.05 from FTP software under Vines 4.11 (5).
>Our microcomputers all contain 3C503 thinwire cards.
>I can avoid the above problem if I remove the TVGA card (which has 1 meg
>memory) from the machine and use another video card. This problem has
>happened twice in the past with other machines that had 1 meg video cards.
>But I was able to avoid the problem by trying different address-interrupt
>combinations on the NIC. Has anyone encountered this problem before?

Is the user making use of any of the new high res video modes that may
impinge on the B000-B7FF UMB area.  Try excluding that area if you are using
it for UMB's.  Also try running it without any UMB areas or hiloading.  Check
for the use of IRQ 2/9, some of the newer video cards are resuming the use of
that interrupt.  Try a vanilla CONFIG.SYS and no AUTOEXEC.BAT maybe you have
a conflict with some other software.

Ian Brabham                 email: ian@banyan.cc.monash.edu.au
Micro Support Group         phone: +61 3 565 4742
Monash University           fax:   +61 3 565 4746
Melbourne Australia
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:05:28 EST
From:         "Elliott Coates" <COATES@UMUC.BITNET>
Subject:      How to Login to CSUS?

For 'user' at csus I give my host login name and host password but it keeps
coming back 'incorrect login'.  What do you need to do to login?

Elliott Coates
coates@umuc.umd.edu
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