HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE ((Wolfgang R. Schulz))
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Ku-band CNN in Europe
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:04:38 GMT
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              Oct 5, 92 3:02 pm

VM1.NoDak.EDU!HOMESAT writes:
>
> Earlier this year CNN announced that they would cease the Ku-band
> transmission from Intelsat VI-F4, 27.5 W from 1. October 1992.
>
> Due to transmission problems from Astra 1B (poor coverage in the northern
> parts of Europe) CNN has decided to stay on the Ku-band transmission from
> Intelsat VI-F4.
>
I predicted that. Also for Middle East, like arab countries. They
all rely (including embassies of the U.S.) on 27.5 Wand would have had
to replace their equipment to C-Band.

As I was waiting for such an announcement, where did you find it anyway.
Did they say it on the air?

Wolfgang


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From: rpfaff@umiacs.umd.edu (Ray Pfaff)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: wildfeed schedule
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:34:20 GMT
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

Speaking of such.  Does anyone know if there is a wild feed for
ITN?
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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: some notes
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 02:53:47 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: na


Here are some observations I have gathered in preparation for the 
next South Scanner chart.

Greensheet is back on G6 (Thanks Gary B. for the tip to look tonight).
I found it G6/22 and I assume that will be a stable location.  

Ted Turner continues to do his best Ross Perot immitation -- he can't
decide what to do or when to do it.  

The Checkout Channel is dual-illuminated again.  Instead of being
just on Spacenet 1 (KU)/24, it is also found on GSTAR-4/3 (remember,
GSTAR-4 is now in the orbital slot of what used to be GSTAR-2).  If
my hypothesis is correct, then the Airport Channel will move back
onto GSTAR-4 in the next few days.  

BTW, I would somebody to drop me a quick note on this (to verify
my info is correct).  I've seen some BBC news on SBS6/various this
last month.  I am assuming this is the BBC 9 pm news.  Another
thing I need verified:  Is the BBC breakfast news on at 3 am ET
on G2/2?  This info will be in the chart.             

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu
From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: World News Now /// Where is it?
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 02:09:28 PDT
Organization: Muth Valley Seismic Control District, San Diego, CA / Port2

antjcb@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (J.C.Burns) writes:

> 
> Does anyone know whether ABC's overnight news service 'World News Now'
> is on the satellite in the clear anywhere? It's fast becoming the hippest
> show on latenight...even better than the old NBC News Overnight with
> Linda Ellerbee. I think it starts at 2 am eastern, even though the
> Atlanta affiliate doesn't pick it up until after 3:30 am.

I do miss Linda's wit in overnight TV.  And you are right, WNN is
good.  I would like to find it on the Eastern Time Zone.  Good
stuff!

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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: Re: South Scanner Satellite Services Chart vol 1 num 7 (LONG) 1/4
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 01:16:33 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: na

In article <ANDRE.92Oct5155529@king.slc.mentorg.com> andre@king.slc.mentorg.com (Andre' Hut) writes:
>
>The listing for the Sci Fi Channel (G5-4) seems to be in error.  It states
>that the freq. for the stereo audio is 5.58/5.80.  Having tried that a few
>hours ago, I found that 5.58/5.78 works a little better.  

Well, it is hard to tell with the Janiel stereo processor.  There are
so many freqs in that neighborhood that sound so good to me.  I guess
I should have known better with the stereo pair (5.78 is pretty 
common to a left/right pair in the 5.xx MHz range).

5.80 is close enough for now until the next issue comes out.

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu


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From: charles@netcom.netcom.com (Charles R. Hoynowski)
Subject: sun outage schedule
Organization: Gizmonic Institute, SOL Division
Distribution: all
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 06:59:15 GMT

Got this from HBO Satellite Services today, thought it might be of 
interest to all.

(Note: Sun outage happens when the sun lines up directly behind a 
satellite, the resulting "solar noise" prevents you from recieving
anything from that satellite for the duration of the outage.)



SUN OUTAGE ADVISORY

Continental US
--------------
Galaxy    1: Oct  4 to Oct 14, from  3:30 to  3:59 PM (EST)
Galaxy    5: Oct  4 to Oct 14, from  3:06 to  3:35 PM (EST)
Telstar 302: Oct  2 to Oct 12, from 12:09 to 12:29 PM (EST)

Alaska
------
Galaxy    1: Oct 11 to Oct 17, from  3:20 to  3:29 PM (EST)
Galaxy    5: Oct 11 to Oct 17, from  2:56 to  3:05 PM (EST)

Hawaii
------
Galaxy    1: Oct  1 to Oct  5, from  3:12 to  3:22 PM (EST)
Galaxy    5: Oct  1 to Oct  5, from  2:48 to  2:58 PM (EST)

Caribbean
---------
Galaxy    1: Sep 27 to Oct  3, from  4:01 to  4:10 PM (EST)
Galaxy    5: Sep 27 to Oct  3, from  3:37 to  3:46 PM (EST)
Telstar 302: Sep 27 to Oct  3, from 12:20 to 12:36 PM (EST)




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Date:         Sun, 4 Oct 1992 10:27:46 EDT
From:         "(Flash Hoser)" <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: New System Selection

>flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US writes in article
><9209291148.AA24068@lopez.marquette.MI.US>:
>>
>> The drake 1524 is the receiver to have.
>>
>> You also will WANT stereo subcarrier tuning, trust me.
>>
>>

>How does it do in the TI department -- I'm considering one for use
>in Manhattan?

>From what I have heard from others, it does quite well.  It has two different
bandwidths of TI filters.

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From: aurs01!aurw6b!gingell@CONCERT.NET ((Mike Gingell))
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: BBC 9PM News
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:20:17 GMT
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No sooner had I posted something on the net about where I saw the BBC 9PM
news than they moved again.  They were on SBS-6 Ku channel 8 (on my Sierra)
Mon-Weds but yesterday they were on G6-19 C band.  All in 625 line PAL.

Later on while waiting to see what they would say when Shaun Kenny was due
come on I saw another PAL feed on G6-13 of the progam "Nature" called
"If The Rains Don't Come".

Shaun came on at 9PM and gave his usual forcefull ideas on the subject
of cable and satellite regulation.  He looked so healthy and full of
vitality - it was and still is hard to beleive he is no longer with us.

At 9:30 they put up a slate saying words to the effect that "Today our
beloved Shaun Kenny passed away" and that Greensheet would be closed
today (Friday) but to watch for them back on G6 on Tuesday at 9PM.  It
won't be the same without Shaun.

Mike Gingell, Alcatel, Raleigh, NC USA  (919) 850-6444
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From: fractal@infoserv.com (Tom Hedges)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Sun Outage Arc
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 12:10:45 PDT
Organization: Fractal Design Corp.
Reply-To: fractal@infoserv.com (Tom Hedges)
Distribution: world
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Since it is sun outage time of the year now (at least at my latitude
of 37 degrees North), may I make a simple suggestion to those who
want to find the satellite arc in the sky:
>>> watch the sun all day <<<

It will almost perfectly follow the arc during the peak of sun outage
and its quite easy to see :-) (at least on a clear day).

Best days (i.e. maximum sun outage) are listed below:
Note: for 4 or 5 days on either side of the dates below the sun is
within a couple of degrees of the arc, probably good enough for site
survey purposes:

	latitude date
      25N   Oct 3
      30N   Oct 5
      35N   Oct 6
      40N   Oct 8
      45N   Oct 9
      50N   Oct 11
      55N   Oct 12
      60N   Oct 13
      65N   Oct 13

Tom Hedges

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From: frank.kennedy@u2u.lonestar.org (Frank Kennedy) 
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: RE: SATELLITE MARKET USA
Date: 26 Sep 92 19:07:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: USER-TO-USER PCBoard (214)492-6565 (USR DS v32bis)
Reply-To: frank.kennedy@u2u.lonestar.org (Frank Kennedy) 

MG>>BEWARE!!!...DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM SATELLITE MARKET USA (S3/24)

I agree totally.

MG>I have ordered and received several items from them. They offer very
MG>low prices based probably on keeping a minimal stock and re-ordering
MG>whenever they get new orders.  If you want the lowest prices you
MG>will find the same thing wherever you go. Cancel your order if you
MG>like and go somewhere else but you are likely to find the same thing
MG>unless you pay more for the interest charges on them keeping the items
MG>in stock.

Are you saying that in order to get LOW PRICES you have to put up with
gross disorganization.

Even the woman at Greensheet who does their books admitted to my wife that
they are extremely disorganized...that Sean is doing a lot of the books without
a computer.

MG>I had to wait much longer than promised for one item I ordered but
MG>I DID receive it.  I think they are honest, although like a lot of
MG>cut price places they may stretch the truth when it comes to delivery
MG>dates, or it may just be that they are not that efficient and the person
MG>on the phone doesn't know the facts.

I think they aren't honest..that's my opinion.  But I don't think people
should ever take money from your charge card and then screw around
for weeks before sending the articles off.  My credit card showed
they charged my card the next day after my order...but they never told me
they didn't have items in stock that would take weeks to ship. I asked them
whan I ordered if these items were in stock and the woman said YES.

I had no problems with Greensheet up to that point. But they really
pi**ed me off with the treatment I received.

A lot of cut rate places that "stretch the truth concerning delivery dates"
are LYING to their customers to make business.  Whenever I get that
treatment I never buy from them again and I tell my friends to avoid them.

In this age of computers and bar codes there is no excuse for a company
to get off the hook ewith the excuse that the poor guy answering the
phone couldn't know the item was not in stock.  No doubt this has
been a clever way for many to refuse to admit that there has been a
continual deception going on.

                                                                                                                   
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 08:35:32 -0500
From:         Russ Crisp <CRISP@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU>
Subject:      Cable Bill Veto.. Now What???

OK. We won the war.  The veto did not stand.  Now what?  How long will
it be before we see programming prices come down?
Just wonderin..
Russ Crisp
Western Carolina University
From: hughes@gary.enet.dec.com (Gary Hughes - VMS Development)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: New DBS venture in the works?
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:36:59 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Sep28.001146.18350@rchland.ibm.com>, oester@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Bob Oesterlin) writes...
>In the 9/20 issue of Satellite TV week, there is an article about a new
>DBS venture that is going to be targeted at providing cable service to rural

That's NRTC. They have worked a deal with Hughes to carry 20 or so cable
channels on Hughes' high power DBS birds that will be carrying DirecTv.
Supposedly, these channels will only be offered via NRTC to areas not served by
cable, but my guess is that will change fast after the system is operational.

First satellite is due to launch early next year. Customer service and
authorization center is under construction. Thomson/RCA will build the first
million receivers. In return for exclusivity they guaranteed a retail price of
$700 or less for the receiver, including dish/feed/LNB.

gary
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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: Re: sun outage schedule
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 21:32:37 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: all

In article <CHARLES.92Sep29225915@netcom.netcom.com> charles@netcom.netcom.com (Charles R. Hoynowski) writes:
>Got this from HBO Satellite Services today, thought it might be of 
>interest to all.
>
>SUN OUTAGE ADVISORY
>
>Continental US
>--------------
>Galaxy    1: Oct  4 to Oct 14, from  3:30 to  3:59 PM (EST)
>Galaxy    5: Oct  4 to Oct 14, from  3:06 to  3:35 PM (EST)
>Telstar 302: Oct  2 to Oct 12, from 12:09 to 12:29 PM (EST)

(rest deleted for space)

I plugged G1 into my sun outage program and found out that the
times are different.  The time of sun outage depends on where
you live.  For me in New Mexico at 106 degrees West longitude, 35
degrees North latitude (approximate!) I get sunout on G1 at 2:54pm
MDT.  

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu


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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:55:41 CST
From:         "Juan R. Elizondo" <ELIZONDO@VMTECSLP.BITNET>
Subject:      Scrambling s_cks!

I'm posting this because I find it interesting and maybe some of you want to
share your ideas.......
>
>I hope that they keep the VC II Datastream, because then we all
>know that someone will be able to hack it.  I'm quite interested
>in how piracy works, I'm taking electrical enginnerring at
>university right now, and want to eventually try to figure out VC
>II+, but I imagine they put their smartest guys on hiding the
>"seed"..
>
Do you really think that they are going to crack it ? The crackers are GI!!!
The rumor is that they WANT the system crackable so they pass the info for it.

>What codes do you usually get a month?  I get the test code right
>at the beginning, then usually CVS & VC1 within a few days.  I
>didn't get the codes for Request 1 & 2 until the middle of the
>month, when I also got the HBO & Cinemax codes.
>
Not many. Just those codes for the BLUE card (do you know what this colors are
? I have heard of red cards, blue cards and white cards, and I guess there is a
 key for each of them). The general keys, and as you say, about the middle of t
he month, the keys for CVS, Request and VC1. Surprisingly the HBO & Cinemax wer
e ready in the first 10 days.

>The question that arises in my mind, is if these wizard codes
>defeat VC II+, then why haven't they ever hacked TVN or Encore?
>
I think those codes exist, but somehow they are not passed away so easily.
The same thing for VC2, Request2, etc.

>Later...  Jim.  (jkung@acs.ucalgary.ca)

Jim. I find this subject so interesting that I would like to post it to the lis
t.
>PS. Do you want to share codes whenever either of us get them?  Maybe we
>can set up a mailing list or something.  :)

Sure, why not!.
Maybe someone else would join.

JR.
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From: meha@iis.ethz.ch (Balz Meierhans)
Subject: ASTRA: KENtucky Fried Chip?
Summary: Where can I get the KENtucky Fried Chip?
Keywords: KENtucky, Fried, Chip, Astra, Sky
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Distribution: rec
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 23:48:05 GMT


Hi there..
Does anyone know where I can get a decoder using the new
KENtucky Fried Chip? (A chip who decodes all Sky channels.)

Thank you,
 Balz (NOT BALLS!) Meierhans
 (meha@iis.ethz.ch)
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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: NFL week 4 backhauls and another good reason to have KU-band.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 00:24:56 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: na


 
 NFL Week 4 Backhauls (on the satellites I can get and all are ITC
 unless otherwise noted):
 
 Browns/Broncos NBC K2/1 (Integrated)
 Bucs/Lions CBS T1/15
 Chargers/Oilers NBC K2/7 (Integrated)
 Bears/Falcons CBS VC-I on G6/7
 Bills/Patriots NBC K1/15
 Dolphins/Seahawks NC K2/3
 Rams/Jets NBC K2/9 (Integrated)
 Steelers/Packers NBC K2/11 (Integrated)
 49ers/Saints TNT LEITCH on G6/9
 49ers/Saints TNT ITC on SBS6/11
 Chiefs/Raiders ABC T1/23
 
 I could not find Vikings/Bengals CBS
 
 -=-=-=
 
 Ku-band became neater to me tonight.  As I was looking around to
 see what was on the various Ku birds, I found an interesting
 feed.  One of my favorite reporters on a local NBC affiliate left
 for Seattle's NBC affiliate about a half a year ago.  I saw her
 tonight doing a satellite truck report on GSTAR-2 for her Seattle
 NBC station.  It was so good to see her on TV again and see that
 she is fine.  Ku-band -- too many neat feeds and "flashbacks from
 the past".
 
 Robert

roberts@triton.unm.edu
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Subject: Cable Bill -- NOW what?
From: flash@lopez.marquette.MI.US (Gary Bourgois,Hamshack)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:45:44 EDT
Organization: Great White North/UPLink

The cable bill passed last night, but prices did not go down today.  Of
course there is now more of a fight in case you thought it was all over.  We
have the tool, but we still have work to do.  The FCC will be setting the
rates, and it will be at least 6 months before THEY say ANYTHING.  I don't
expect to see the kind of reductions on ala carte programming immediately.  I
mean, for example, I want Comedy Central.  Right now it is $5 a year, but
cable gets it at a wholesale single user rate of about a buck or so.  It is
not even worth selling at that price if that is all you buy...  What I think
you are going to see are reductions in the packages down to cable type
prices.

However, you can bet your bottom dollar the programmers are not going to roll
their prices back now by themselves because the bill passed.  It is going to
take some action by the FCC against EACH programmer.  

Shaun used to say $200 a year for everything in the sky.  That was his magic
number.  I don't know how realistic it is, but that would make for a LOT of
satellite sales.

Cable would FIGHT that tooth and nail.  They are not going to roll over and
play dead.  They are going to regroup, and they are going to fight.

Just in case you were living in the dream that the WORK on our part is over.

It has JUST BEGUN!

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From: demarco@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Vince Demarco)
Subject: Re: Scrambling s_cks!
Organization: University of Calgary
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 05:33:24 GMT


I have a question for you guys about the VCII codes.

How do the pirates actually get the codes, to enable channels like
CVS, VC1, Request etc.  It looks like you can get the codes for each
month before the first of the month. IE you don't have to be without
your favorite channels for too long.

It looks like it must be really easy to get the codes, but of course
no one provides any info on how it is done.


vince demarco
demarco@cpsc.ucalgary.ca
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From: vidarol@dhhalden.no (VIDAR OLSEN)
Subject: Re: Does TDF1/2 go off air at night ?
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 14:15:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.092238.4821@Urmel.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE> dieter@informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Dieter Kreuer) writes:
>From: dieter@informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Dieter Kreuer)
>Subject: Re: Does TDF1/2 go off air at night ?
>Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 09:22:38 GMT


>Btw., does anybody know whether/when ASTRA will broadcast RTL2, arte, or other
>stations? 
>

The last I've heard about RTL2 is that it will go out on Eutelsat II f1
on 13.0 east(the same freq. as Der Kabelkanal used for their PAL 
broadcast), since they were rebuffed from Astra just a few weeks 
beforethey were supposed to go on air: Astra didn't want more german 
channels (forthe moment, anyway). 

Another rumour out, is that Super Channel will go to Astra some time in the
near future (possibly in widescreen D2MAC).
From: producer@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: where is sci-fi channel?
Date: 26 Sep 92 07:24:15 GMT
Reply-To: producer@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida - CIRCA

yes...I'm a mooron, i forgot to remember whare the Sci-fi channel is. 
would some forgiving soul please re-post?

Thanks.

Randy.


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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: Re: Where will Nostalgia go?
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 02:46:41 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: na

In article <1992Sep29.143409.8681@tin.monsanto.com> lesnyd@monsanto.com (Larry E. Snyder) writes:
>Since Satcom F4R is being retired, does anyone know where the other services,
>particularly Nostalgia, will go? I really enjoy watching "Ben Casey" and
>"Combat" at night....

A few months ago, I posted a list of where the Sportschannels are going to
end up.  It was approximately half of them on Satcom F2R and half of
them on Satcom C1.

Playboy is moving to G5/2, I have no idea about Spice.

Prevue Guide is going to Satcom C4.

MSG is going to Satcom C4.

I can't find my Satcom C3 schedule at this moment, but I think Nostalgia
may end up there.

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu


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From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Subject: Traksat? (was Re: If you're thinking of getting a dish)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:32:51 GMT


In article <9210021311.aa06632@crdec7.apgea.army.mil> Bill Jones <wejones@CRDEC7.APGEA.ARMY.MIL> writes:
>
>If you use Traksat and the tvro two line elements, the program has an option
>to display the sat positions against a star background (correct for your
>position and time).  Sounds like just what you're asking for.

Sounds great. What's Tracksat? Where do I get a copy of it?