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From: DL20@lafibm.lafayette.edu (DL20)
Newsgroups: alt.prose.d
Subject: Speaking in a vacuum
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:44:20 GMT
Organization: Lafayette College
Originator: news@lafcol

Have you ever tried to write a story in which there is only one
character, all by herself?  I've been working on such a story and am
finding it more difficult than I have ever imagined to give the story
any grip.  Stories are interesting because of some central conflict,
and it's bugger-all difficult to have a conflict with only one
character (unless she's schizo or something, and this one isn't).
     Has anyone out there ever written or read a story in which there
is only one character at all?  Was the story a success?  I'm curious to
know if I'm the only one who has trouble doing this.
From: jjehl@lonestar.utsa.edu (Jeff D. Jehl)
Newsgroups: alt.prose.d
Subject: Re: S i g h...going back to the hellhole
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:34:16 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <rauser.713639918@sfu.ca> rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:
>
>
>   Well, my semester's officially finished and I'm heading back to the
>hellhole, namely, Kelowna. Yuck. No more net access or Super NES for
>two and a half weeks!!
>
>   However, September 1 I'll be back with some new stories and, perhaps,
>some criticism.
>
>   (I'm posting this just in case anybody actually cares...;-)
>
>
>--
>Richard J. Rauser        "You have no idea what you're doing."
>rauser@sfu.ca            "Oh, don't worry about that. We're professional
>WNI                          outlaws - we do this for a living."
>-----------------
>"Remember, no matter where you go, there you are." -Dr.Banzai

See ya soon, Rich...I think that I'll unsubscribe for a couple of weeks :)...


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From: mfc1493@zeus.tamu.edu (Ratboy)
Newsgroups: alt.prose.d
Subject: Re: Speaking in a vacuum
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:27:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>Have you ever tried to write a story in which there is only one
>character, all by herself?  I've been working on such a story and am
>finding it more difficult than I have ever imagined to give the story
>any grip.  Stories are interesting because of some central conflict,
>and it's bugger-all difficult to have a conflict with only one
>character (unless she's schizo or something, and this one isn't).
>     Has anyone out there ever written or read a story in which there
>is only one character at all?  Was the story a success?  I'm curious to
>know if I'm the only one who has trouble doing this.

I find that my stories suffer from lack of characters. Many stories I am
working on only have a few characters. Never had one with onbly one though,
but most have limited outside contact as a factor in the story. All the
conflict comes from within the character...personal realizations, etc...
and Man/Woman vs. Nature...or versus his/her circumstances.

Ratboy
Newsgroups: alt.prose.d
From: rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser)
Subject: S i g h...going back to the hellhole
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:18:38 GMT



   Well, my semester's officially finished and I'm heading back to the
hellhole, namely, Kelowna. Yuck. No more net access or Super NES for
two and a half weeks!!

   However, September 1 I'll be back with some new stories and, perhaps,
some criticism. 

   (I'm posting this just in case anybody actually cares...;-)


-- 
Richard J. Rauser        "You have no idea what you're doing."
rauser@sfu.ca            "Oh, don't worry about that. We're professional
WNI                          outlaws - we do this for a living."
-----------------
"Remember, no matter where you go, there you are." -Dr.Banzai
From: rmr@sgi.com (selfish meme)
Newsgroups: alt.prose.d
Subject: Re: Speaking in a vacuum
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:27:13 GMT
Organization: the atrocity exhibition

>Have you ever tried to write a story in which there is only one
>character, all by herself?  I've been working on such a story and am
>finding it more difficult than I have ever imagined to give the story
>any grip.  Stories are interesting because of some central conflict,
>and it's bugger-all difficult to have a conflict with only one
>character (unless she's schizo or something, and this one isn't).
>     Has anyone out there ever written or read a story in which there
>is only one character at all?  Was the story a success?  I'm curious to
>know if I'm the only one who has trouble doing this.


This is a hard problem.  Most of what we find interesting
in a story is a character's interactions with others.  You
might try to make the character's environment into a second
character, or maybe personify some aspect of the character
that would create an internal conflict.  This sort of thing
can be accomplished without the character being "schizo",
but you should keep in mind that fiction very often skews 
characters/viewpoints in the direction of schizophrenia, because 
in general, normal people do not ususally make the connections
that characters do in a story.  Stories (at least those that
attempt to be "literary") are generally about extraordinary 
experience, as opposed to the mundane.

Good luck!


			Robert.
Newsgroups: alt.prose,alt.suicide.holiday
From: haywire@yaya.WPI.EDU (the Insane One)
Subject: just wanted to be friends
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:49:45 GMT


I wrote this poem on a college net...
one of my friends liked it so much he told me to post it on this one too
hope you like it


just wanted to be friends...
the words echo in my mind
said by so many voices
said by so many who said they cared
but as i lie in my seclusion
to heal from wounds reopened
the separation becomes a chasm
almost impossible to cross
without reopening the wounds again
or creating newer and deeper ones
just wanted to be friends...
how many times have i heard those words
ten, ten hundred, ten thousand,...
how many women have said that phrase
am i cursed to eternally be a woman's big brother
eternally feeling the emptiness in my heart
will i ever meet the one
who will return the love i give
or will i forever walk the streets alone
never to have it returned
not even a satisfactory favor
something done for me because you like me
will i forever peer in the windows
to see lovers hold each other in a warm embrace
will i pass forever quietly in the night
being tormented of that i cannot have
only to feel the clutch around my heart
but who is this o maiden in black
have you come to take my troubles away
or to torment me like the others
what..youll return my love
but how can i be sure you tell the truth
others have lied such a cursed lie before
why should i trust you
look how she beconnes me to be wrapped into her velvet cloak
to be held close and be eternally warm
she promises me shell take away all my fears
she promises me shell take away all my despair
she will fulfill all my needs
just take her hand and its there
but who are you i ask...
she hesitates to answer for fear of losing me to reality
wont you tell me your name?
why wont you tell me your name?
she tells me...and i accept her hand
the last embrace as the cloak envelopes me
i will forevermore be in darkness
and my blood will run free tonight.......
Newsgroups: wpi.students.voxhumana,alt.prose,alt.personals,alt.suicide.holiday
From: underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe)
Subject: Re: Envy
Organization: Miners for a Heart of Gold
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 00:33:41 GMT

In article <Bt1pz9.Izo@wpi.WPI.EDU> megazone@wpi.WPI.EDU (MEGAZONE 23) writes:
>How envious can I be?
>Why do I desire what he has?
>...

Because life is not fair...

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Newsgroups: alt.prose
From: jpg@bnr.co.uk (Jonathan P. Gibbons)
Newsgroups: alt.prose
Subject: notes of darkness
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:32:56 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, London Rd, Harlow, Essex, CM19 9NA, U.K.

Notes of Darkness
-----------------

With a start he woke
The window rattled to the moaning voice of the wind
A silent shiver ran through the house
Nights dark footsteps creaked a lonely board

Cold and still as stone he lay, ears straining
A far off rumble of a midnight traveller on the motorway
Nothing more
And then a rattle of a surely closed door

Nothing he thinks, bad memories, no more
Yet his fists clench and his ears ache to sense nothing
Another creak
Too close to a silent footfall, to much linked to its predecessor  
          (or was there one?)

Could it be? In a moments denial the figure curls and hunches,
sheets pull up, head buries in pillows and yet the ears still wait,
The curtain rustles and the trees sigh to the moon
Blown by the wind from the unknown dark

Nothing more?  The old house breathing,
Minutes pass and breath slows as pulse sleeps,
Unnoticed the floorboards creak and the handle turns,
Ears speak to a slumbering, deaf brain,

How close to knowing he was then,
Instincts rising to guard him,
but no, the easy denial came as on many other dark nights
leaving him defenceless, helpless and in sight

A sudden rush, an awesome might
claws and teeth, eyes alight to red blood that flows darkly,
That flows and pools and lays alone
Long after, nothing but a stain in anothers creaking home.


Jonathan

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  With fearsome eyes and fiery breath the dragon burnt the girl to death
                    -- from "Too Late Saint George"
From: pcotnoir@wpi.WPI.EDU (Paul D. Cotnoir)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Idea for the Next StarTrek Motion Picture
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:36:30 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute


How do you like this idea for the next StarTrek movie?

The title could be: "StarTrek VII: Generation Gap"

The action starts off where "Undiscovered Country" left off.  Captain
Kirk and crew are just about to stand down when another "sensitive"
diplomatic emergency presents itself - This time on some planet on the 
in the Federation/Romulan neutral zone.

As the Enterprise and crew head out toward their destination the action
switches to the century of STTNG and, as coincidence would have it, Captain
Picard and the crew of the next generation Enterprise are ordered to the 
very same planet, also to try to defuse some tricky political situation.  
Enroute they must pick up special Federation envoy Spock.

Once both Enterprises, in their respective centuries, reach their destination
each situation requires that the Captain and Spock beam down to the planet's 
surface.  In the act of beaming, some type of anomaly caused by some sort of
phenomenon associated with the planet causes Picard and FutureSpock to switch
places with Kirk and PastSpock (Like the MIRROR MIRROR episode on the old 
series).  In other words, Kirk and PastSpock are thrown forward in time while 
Picard and FutureSpock are thrown backward.

Just to add some complications, a switch back can't be attempted for several 
days until conditions associated with the first anomaly are duplicated and the
Romulans (in both centuries) are demanding the withdrawl of the Enterprise(s)
threatening full scale war as a consequence of refusal to leave the area. 

The resolution of these conflicts would make up the rest of the plot.  A
number of interesting issues could be dealt with:

	- Would we see a kinder, gentler, less cavalier Captain Kirk?
	- Would we see a bolder, hawkish Captain Picard?
	- How would Kirk & Picard get along in their new environments?
	- Maybe only the two captains should change places so as to let
          them each interract with a Spock from a different generation
	
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: rudolph@marvin.ee.up.ac.za (Rudolph Pienaar)
Subject: Re: Idea for the Next StarTrek Motion Picture
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:42:10
Organization: University of Pretoria, South Africa


Not a bad idea, but there might a slight time paradox -

The crew of TNG would already know about the time switch even before it happens, by
virtue of the effect having happened in their past.

Before Picard beams down, he'll know that on this day a century ago Kirk beamed down
and was time switched with himself. He (Picard) will also have advanced knowledge of all
the actions that he (Picard) is about to do (since by that stage it's a matter of history).

Anyway, that in itself is an interesting situation, but I don't know if it can work.
Suggestions?

rudolph@marvin.ee.up.ac.za (Rudolph Pienaar)
Organisation: European Space Technology Centre (E.S.T.E.C)
Date: Thursday, 20 Aug 1992 17:33:49 CET
From: <KLEECH@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Idea for the Next StarTrek Motion Picture

How about the Enterprises having to wait a couple of days ( in Romulan space,
lots of storyline having the Captains working with the wrong Spock &
Enterprise ) and then jump back by the two days to re-attempt the transporting.
This time it is successful ( right Captain on right ship ) but since it is
successful neither Captain has a memory of it and so Kirk can't put it in
the log to warn Picard in 75 years time.

Why doesn't one of the good story writers we have on this network try and write
something around this? On a different note, did I miss the Great American Novel
part 1? And whatever happened to Aliens meets TNG?
From: ehohnbau@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: FTP for raven's roar?
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Date: 19 Aug 92 05:23:56 GMT


Is the Raven's Roar on FTP yet?
My mailer ate chapters 11-15 but I got all the rest and I'm looking to
get the parts I missed.

Eric
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: Re: STTNG Officers Manual
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 05:23:26 GMT

landrews@wiz.outb.wimsey.bc.ca  writes:
> >       Does anyone know if it is possible to get a copy of the:
> >
> >       S        T:TNG Officers Manual   ?
> >
> >       Apparently it is a technical guide to the workings of all systems
> >and operations of the Federation ships...
> 
> If it matters to you, I believe the Officers Manual (which I have) is deemed "unreliable and incorrect".
> 
> You are better off getting the Technical Guide (I have forgotten the exact title) written by the show's two technical advisors.
> 
> --- Via UCI v1.02 (C-Net Amiga)
> 
>   |_ucky |_uke/*/Luke Andrews
> =-----------------------------=
> landrews@wiz.outb.wimsey.bc.ca.
I think the Technical giude you are talking about is the Starlog Star Trek:
The Next Generation Technical Journal.  Cost: $6.95.  It came out about the
time Gene Roddenberry died.  I haven't seen to many lately, but you might find
them at a bookstore or a place that sells a lot of sci-fi stuff.  If you want
an address where to get a copy, E-mail me and I'll find it for ya.
					Jeffrey Jo
-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
				 Jeffrey S. Jo
		Computer Operations, University of Nebraska at Omaha
		             tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: acube@eecg.toronto.edu (Aditya Aggarwal)
Subject: FTP Site
Keywords: Name of Ftp Site
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:42:47 GMT

I am new to this group. Can anyone please mail me the  name of FTP site for this group ?

My e-mail address is acube@eecg,toronto.edu

Thanxs
aditya
From: landrews@wiz.outb.wimsey.bc.ca (Luke Andrews)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: STTNG Officers Manual
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:46:48 PDT
Organization: Wizard Online

>       Does anyone know if it is possible to get a copy of the:
>
>       S        T:TNG Officers Manual   ?
>
>       Apparently it is a technical guide to the workings of all systems
>and operations of the Federation ships...

If it matters to you, I believe the Officers Manual (which I have) is deemed "unreliable and incorrect".

You are better off getting the Technical Guide (I have forgotten the exact title) written by the show's two technical advisors.

--- Via UCI v1.02 (C-Net Amiga)

  |_ucky |_uke/*/Luke Andrews
=-----------------------------=
landrews@wiz.outb.wimsey.bc.ca.
Organisation: European Space Technology Centre (E.S.T.E.C)
Date: Wednesday, 12 Aug 1992 16:03:26 CET
From: <AHUGHES@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: ST VI:TUC

Answers for your questions:

1.  The doors do not make that much noise, its possible that Kirk simply did
not hear it. This is, of course, IMHO.

2.  Klingon warrior tradition does not allow a women as a Chancellor. However
Gorgon (?) was not a member of the warrior class, and therfore was not
bound by this tradition. This is from th novelisation of ST:TUC.

ARH








Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: Re: STTNG Officers Manual
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 20:53:02 GMT

scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu  writes:
> In article <1992Aug16.052326.10098@news.unomaha.edu>, tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo) writes:
> > landrews@wiz.outb.wimsey.bc.ca  writes:
> >> >       Does anyone know if it is possible to get a copy of the:
> >> >
> >> >       S        T:TNG Officers Manual   ?
> >> >
> >> >       Apparently it is a technical guide to the workings of all systems
> >> >and operations of the Federation ships...
> >> 
> >> If it matters to you, I believe the Officers Manual (which I have) is deemed "unreliable and incorrect".
> >> 
> >> You are better off getting the Technical Guide (I have forgotten the exact title) written by the show's two technical advisors.
> >> 
> >> --- Via UCI v1.02 (C-Net Amiga)
> >> 
> >>   |_ucky |_uke/*/Luke Andrews
> >> =-----------------------------=
> >> landrews@wiz.outb.wimsey.bc.ca.
> > I think the Technical giude you are talking about is the Starlog Star Trek:
>                                                            ^^^^^^^
>                                                            ???????
> 
> > The Next Generation Technical Journal.  Cost: $6.95.  It came out about the
>                                                 ^^^^^
>                                                 ?????
> 
> > time Gene Roddenberry died.  I haven't seen to many lately, but you might find
> > them at a bookstore or a place that sells a lot of sci-fi stuff.  If you want
> > an address where to get a copy, E-mail me and I'll find it for ya.
> 
> Uh.... I've never heard of this before.  The "Official" TNG Technical Guide
> is not put out by Starlog and costs closer to $10 (at least where I got it).
> It is by Mike Okuda and Rick Sternbach, the technical consultant/art guys
> for TNG and their word is the closest to canon you're going to get on
> technical matters.  I got mine at a Waldenbooks.  They're everwhere, not
> just "sci-fi" stores.  Go get it!
                    I got it!  There is one out by starlog by Shane Johnson.
On the cover it's title is "Starlog presents the Official Magazine Star Trek:
The Next Generation Technical Journal".  It has some info that is not in the
Technical Manual.  It has some layouts and some diagrams.  It also has some
limited info on the Borg.
> Plus, this thread does not belong here.  Please talk about creative postings
> or take this to r.a.s.tech or r.a.s.misc.  Thanks.
			Sorry!  I thought I'd post the reponse where I read
			it! :-)
 				Jeffrey Jo
> _______________________________________________________________________ 
-- 
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				 Jeffrey S. Jo
		Computer Operations, University of Nebraska at Omaha
		             tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: ruiz@panam2.panam.edu (ROY RUIZ - STROY)
Subject: Power of Q
Organization: University of Texas - Pan American Computer Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: Power of Q
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:58:00 GMT
X-Posted-From: panam2.panam.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


What would I do with the Power of Q?
Why go visit the Enterprise

Roy Ruiz
From: ketzlekc@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU (Kevin C. Ketzler)
Subject: power of Q
Reply-To: ketzlekc@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 06:09:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.205300.11481@ennews.eas.asu.edu>, thompson@enuxva.eas.asu.edu (Albert Thompson III (Al)) writes:
>Yes! What would you do with the Power of the Q?
>*** Something to contemplate on ***
>-thompson@enuxha.eas.asu.edu>



	How about starting a Galatic Aid and Intervention Squad --- setting
things right that once went wrong --- defenders of Truth, Justice, and the
Starfleet way!!! 

	{Bits and pieces taken from *Quantum Leap* and *Superman*, just so that
I am not accused of plagiarism!!!}

		>>:}  --  Klingon Smiley Face

	KCK --- ketzlekc@hydra.rose-hulman.edu

Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: fkilpatr@afit.af.mil (Freeman A. Kilpatrick)
Subject: Re: Great American Star Trek Novel
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 03:02:31 GMT

eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson) writes:

>Also, I have a standing request for technical info and suggestions.  I
>may not take you're advice, but I'd love to hear it! Thanks!
--------------^^^^^^

Here's some advice.  You have made a very common english blunder in this sentence. You
used the conjuction [you are --> you're].  You should have used 'your' (third person plural).


Ok, I admit it is not really a technical suggestion.. :)

Remember, Data never uses conjuctions.... 


-- 
Alex Kilpatrick  fkilpatr@afit.af.mil  
"Where the ENIAC is equipped with 18,000 vacuum tubes and weighs 30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes and weigh only 1 1/2 tons." 
---Popular Mechanics, March 1949
From: asher@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (Marnita Asher)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: NEW STORY: Qlue (or, ....)
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:05:27 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science

In article <BszEJz.6pE@acsu.buffalo.edu> you write:
>well, here it is, the last thing that i shall submit for the approval of all 
>of you (well, unless i go back to school).  it is a semi-parody.
>         at the risk of being flamed for wasting bandwidth/
>being sappy, it's been a good time and i shall miss this newsgroup dearly.  
>anyone so inclined may write to me at the below address... i would love if 
>those so inclined could post me (snail mail) the latest and greatest fiction 
>on this newsgroup...  bye!  :'(
>  +        
>   sandra guzdek

I will also miss you Sandra.  I thank you for reposting all your wonderful
stories before you left; I am relatively new to the net and had not had a 
chance to read many of them. 

I volunteer to mail Sandra all the stories.  I got the time and the stamps.

Marnita

P.S.  And of course Sandra and I will be joining forces for our trip down
south.  The sins of Pat Parker and his roommate Chris Carey have not been
forgotten!