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From: EPLUS17@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu (Richard Engelbrecht-Wiggans)
Subject: Re: Windsurfing Hangover
Organization: C.C.S.O.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 02:14:13 GMT

In article <l6ri1bINN8p6@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM>
bobd@wave.Eng.Sun.COM (Bobd Dow) writes:
 
>In article <1992Jul21.190835.17973@nntp.hut.fi> jmunkki@vipunen.hut.fi (Juri Munkki) writes:
>
>Any other tips on maintaining the proper water level?
>
 
There is an old saying in endurance sports that "once you are thirsty,
you are already "too" far down the road of dehydration." This agrees
exactly with my experience.  To reduce the problem, I am constantly
concerned about rehydration.  At a minimum, I drink 2 liters of water
an hour or two before starting sailing.  If it is hot, I drink another
liter or so just before starting.  (Everything here is measured in
liters because I carry my water in two-liter soft drink bottles.)
 
Next, I drink a lot while sailing.  In hot weather, it may come to two
liters every two hours; that is about the same as my wife and I each
used to consume back in our long distance bicycling days.
 
Finally, I try to watch out for dehydration by monitering my weight.
I weigh myself first thing in the morning each day, and interprete a
weight drop of more than 1-2 pounds as a warning; a drop that big is
almost certainly water loss.   Until my weight is back up to "normal,"
I continue to drink large amounts of water...up to a liter with each
meal.  I have also noticed, that my weight sometimes rebounds very
quickly (6-12 hours) after a good sweat, and then drops again; I suspect
that this is because because my body didn't actually absord enough water
yet.
 
Drinking this much water doesn't eliminate the "hangover," but it does
make a big difference, both in the harshness of the hangover and its
duration...or is this just my imagination (any sports physiologists out
there?)
 
Richard Engelbrecht-Wiggans          Those who can, teach;
                                     those who can't, don't;
eplus17@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu             and too many who think they
or EPLUS17@UIUCVMD                   can teach neither can nor do.
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: EPLUS17@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu (Richard Engelbrecht-Wiggans)
Subject: Re: Calories -- correction
Organization: C.C.S.O.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:32:22 GMT

In my previous post on this subject, I included a table.  In it, I
sometimes reported miles/100 calories, and sometimes the inverse.
The table should have read as follows:
 
>
>            Activity                      100's of calories / mile
>
>            Running (medium pace)             1.0 (this is my basic unit)
>            Walking                           0.8
>            Pushing a lawn mower              4/3
>            Swimming (1.8 mph)                6.0 (I really thrash!)
>            Bicycling (18-21 mph on a good
>               or 12-15 on my commuting rig)  1/3
>            Rowing (mediunm effort)           2
>            Speed skating (12-15 mph)         2
>
>
>Richard Engelbrecht-Wiggans          Those who can, teach;
>                                     those who can't, don't;
>eplus17@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu             and too many who think they
>or EPLUS17@UIUCVMD                   can teach neither can nor do.
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: du@oregon.uoregon.edu  (Dave Ulrich)
Subject: Boom Recommendations?
Followup-To: rec.windsurfing
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 23:57:11 GMT

 Looking to replace my trusty Windsurfing Hawaii Gorilla with a lighter,
 stiffer boom with a thinner grip, also one that will handle a wide range
 of sail sizes (my old boom handles 4.0 through 7.0).  I'm leaning toward
 a Chinook, but would like to hear some feedback from those of you who have
 recently purchased a new boom you like (or dislike).  Thanks.          du
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: gboates@admin.acadiau.ca (GARY BOATES)
Subject: Re: Ronny Drysuits question
Organization: Acadia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:57:18 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.163949.457@uvm.edu> kkiley@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Kor Kiley) writes:
>Path: dragon.acadiau.ca!nstn.ns.ca!news.cs.indiana.edu!rutgers!usc!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!emba-news.uvm.edu!moose.uvm.edu!kkiley
>From: kkiley@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Kor Kiley)
>Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
>Subject: Re: Ronny Drysuits question
>Message-ID: <1992Jul26.163949.457@uvm.edu>
>Date: 26 Jul 92 16:39:49 GMT
>References: <gboates.113.711732293@admin.acadiau.ca>
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>From article <gboates.113.711732293@admin.acadiau.ca>, by gboates@admin.acadiau.ca (GARY BOATES):
>> 
>> 
>>       JUST SAY "NO" TO RONNY DRYSUITS! 
>> 
>>               (the sport is fraught with enough problems...)

>Explanation please??
>
Ronny Drysuits are (seemingly so) more fragile than say  Bare, Gul or O'
Neil.  I seem to remember over the years,  conversations with sailors about 
Ronny suits... ie. "My neck seal just tore... and I was so careful" etc. 
etc. few if any conversations centered around other makes.  Over time 
one has to wonder if it is possible to construct a light-feeling, stylish, 
BUT durable drysuit.  In my opinion, Ronny has not been able to do this.

Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: cjb3701@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Chris Bigenwald)
Subject: Beaufort's Wind Scale
Reply-To: cjb3701@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:40:50 GMT


Here is some info I found in the '92 Old Farmer's Almanac.  I don't think I've
actually heard any weather forecasts using this scale but if I do, I'll make
sure to wait for "force four" before getting my gear ready....


                         BEAUFORT'S SCALE OF WIND SPEEDS
                         -------------------------------
Originally devised by British Admiral Sir Francis Beaufort in 1806 and adapted
for use by the U.S. National Weather Service.

                         FORCE  DESCRIPTION        MPH
                         0      Calm               <1
                         1      Light air          1 - 3
                         2      Light breeze       4 - 7
                         3      Gentle breeze      8 - 12
                         4      Moderate breeze    13 - 18
                         5      Fresh breeze       19 - 24
                         6      Strong breeze      25 - 31
                         7      Moderate gale      32 - 38
                         8      Fresh gale         39 - 46
                         9      Strong gale        47 - 54
                         10     Whole gale         55 - 63
                         11     Storm              64 - 75
                         12     Hurricane          >75



----------------------------------------------
Chris J. Bigenwald
Rochester Institute of Technology
Computer Science graduate student & windsurfer
cjb3701@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
----------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
From: n2814@ted.cray.com (Jim Stillson)
Subject: Need help, Eagle congrat letter
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 21 Jul 92 09:42:21 CDT


A Scout in my troop has earned his Eagle badge (the Eagle application
is in the approval process in Texas).  As I always do, I asked him if
he had anyone from whom he particularly wanted a congratulatory
letter.  Being a swimmer (breast stroke) and captain of the Fridley
High School swim team, he immediately said letters from Matt Biondi
and Mark Spitz (and I would add Esther Williams) would have special
meaning to him.

My problem now is:  where do I contact any of these three to ask if
they are willing to write a letter?  Does anyone know address, phone,
e-mail for any of these?  For that matter; Mr. Biondi, Mr. Spitz, or
Ms. Williams; (if you are on the net) are you willing to pursue the
subject?

Please reply via e-mail as these individuals deserve the privacy they
want for themselves.

Thanks in advance,
Jim

S ~  Jim Stillson; Scoutmaster; Troop 167; Viking Council; Fridley, Minnesota
S ~		   plus many other volunteer positions in BSA.
E ~
S ~		To write:  stillson@ssesco.com
C ~		By phone:  (715) 723-9325, ext.4686
O ~		Send FAX:  (715) 723-1489
From: rhodes@cs.man.ac.uk (S Rhodes)
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: RE: scouts-l filelist
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:09:18 GMT
Reply-To: rhodes@cs.man.ac.uk (S Rhodes)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester UK


Is there a FTP site somewhere for this list??

I tried subscribing but with no response - perhaps it was me who screwed up

Thanks in advance 
		
Stephen rhodes
1st Longdendale scout troop
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
From: dadams@cray.com (David Adams)
Subject: Re: Patrol Names
Reply-To: dadams@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 21 Jul 92 12:55:44 CDT

The patrol of new scouts I work with has chosen the name:

"Beef Patrol"

The Patrol Yell:

Beef Patrol! Beef Patrol!
Moo! Moo! Moo!
Cowpies! Cowpies!  OooH! OooH!



---
--David C. Adams  Statistician  Cray Research Inc.  dadams@cray.com
___________________________________________________________________
       If you have a watch, you always know what time it is.
            If you have two, you're never quite sure.

Xref: sparky rec.scouting:2247 alt.atheism:14333
From: michaell@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael A. Lowry)
Newsgroups: rec.scouting,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Support for Boy Scouts
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:24:56 GMT
Followup-To: rec.scouting
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

I've been int the BSA for almost 12 years. I started as a Boy Scout,
and I am now an Assistant Scoutmaster in my Troop and a member of an
Explorer post, as well as a brother of Alpha Phi Omega. At one time, I
believed in, or thought I believed in some sort of God. I went to
church; I received my God and Country award; I was somewhat religious.
I have since, hoever, grown of of those beliefs. I now have what I
consider a much stronger belief system, but it is not based on the
supernatural. I think that the BSA symbolizes and encourages some of
the best ideals a boy could have: learn, cooperate, be friendly, work
hard, play hard, tell the truth, etc.. Just look at the Scout Law--
Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Curteous, Kind, Obediennt,
Cheerful, Brave, Clean, Reverent. I am all of these. Yes- even I, an
atheist, am reverent... but not to god. I hold my own, secular
beliefs, and I believe (for no particular reason) that there is good
in everyone. So why should the BSA push or force boys into one small,
focused set of religious beliefs? Poeple are all different. It is
ridiculous to assume that it is possible to limit such a wonderful
organization as the BSA to such a narrow view of the future. 



Xref: sparky rec.scouting:2254 alt.atheism:14363 ba.politics:3779 ca.politics:6042
From: meyer@IASTATE.EDU (W T Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: Re: patrol names
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:09:42 GMT
Reply-To: meyer@IASTATE.EDU (W T Meyer)
Organization: Iowa State University

Our Panther patrol just renamed themselves as the Fire-breathing Cockroaches. 
They came up with a
nice flag, too.

I'm thinking of forming the scoutmasters into the Virus patrol.  The yell:
ah-choo.  The flag and
patch are blank (a life-sized picture of a virus).
--
Thomas Meyer                             internet: meyer@iastate.edu
High Energy Physics                      hepnet:   isuhep::meyer
Ames Laboratory                          bitnet:   meyer@alisuvax
Ames, Ia 50011
USA
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
From: illini@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (jerry.waltz)
Subject: Request for addresses for ordering patches.
Summary: Cub Scout group needs addresses for patch stores.
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 22:17:55 GMT

As my family and myself have gotten involved in the local Cub Scout
troop, we are beginning to need the Company names and addresses of
firms that sell (mail order type) patches appropriate to the
activities of scouting.

We have in the past used a company called "The Patch Place" I believe
found in CA. Any additional possible sources would be appreciated.

Company names, addresses, and phone numbers would be GREAT.
please email direct and I will summarize if the information
is requested.

---
    -      _   Jerry Waltz, Analysts International Corp. @ AT&T 
   /_\  @ / `  471 E Broad St, Suite 1610, Columbus, Ohio 43215   (614)860-2992
  /   \ | \_,  E-mail: jkw@cbnmva.att.com        #include <std_disclaimer>
Eagle Scout, Class of 77 (formerly of the Piankeshaw Council/Cent. IL)
Xref: sparky rec.scouting:2242 alt.atheism:14272 ba.politics:3754 ca.politics:6012
From: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Slagle)
Newsgroups: rec.scouting,alt.motss,alt.atheism,ba.politics,ca.politics
Subject: Re: Support for Boy Scouts
Date: 25 Jul 92 06:35:43 GMT
	<1992Jul20.212755.28174@unlinfo.unl.edu>
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	<1992Jul23.161346.17720@unlinfo.unl.edu>
Reply-To: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: You wouldn't ask this if you'd seen my desk.
In-reply-to: rlosee@unlinfo.unl.edu's message of Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:13:46 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.161346.17720@unlinfo.unl.edu>, rlosee@unlinfo.unl.edu (Robert Losee) writes:

> Mark, as I understand your arguement you wish to sweep religion out of
> government, out of the parks, and the streets, and hold it hostage in
> a few stone building we call mosques, synagogues, temples....  I
> dismiss this.  I think an non-governmental organizations can pick
> whatever level of religious participation they wish.  This is the
> american experiment.  Many (perhaps most) who came to this country,
> sought the freedom to do just that.

I'm not trying to push religion anywhere, Robert.  I just
don't see the necessity of using it as a litmus test for
participation in the Boy Scouts.  You can have your religion,
and you can practice it anywhere you want, as far as I am
concerned.  I am certainly not calling for any kind of legal
sanctions here, but I am arguing for MY beliefs just as you
are for yours.  It is your stand for exclusivity, not mine.
I would be quite happy to share the Boy Scouts and any other
non-government organization with you and anyone else without
regard to religious beliefs, or lack of them.  Have I even
suggested that I would like some sort of oath of unbelief to
parallel your requirement for a loyalty oath to god?

You're about a hairs breadth from suggesting that my stand
is one of anti-religious bigotry in your statement that I
quote above.  That is at best a gross distortion of what I
have written.  I would appreciate it if you would back off
that contention please.
--
----
Mark E. Slagle                                 PO Box 61059
slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com                       Sunnyvale, CA   94088
408-756-0895                                   USA
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
From: brunner@crchh447.bnr.ca (James Brunner)
Subject: Re: Need help, Eagle congrat letter
Reply-To: brunner@crchh447.bnr.ca (James Brunner)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:34:29 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.094221.18676@walter.cray.com>, n2814@ted.cray.com (Jim Stillson) writes:
|> 
|> A Scout in my troop has earned his Eagle badge (the Eagle application
|> is in the approval process in Texas).  As I always do, I asked him if
|> he had anyone from whom he particularly wanted a congratulatory
|> letter.  Being a swimmer (breast stroke) and captain of the Fridley
|> High School swim team, he immediately said letters from Matt Biondi
|> and Mark Spitz (and I would add Esther Williams) would have special
|> meaning to him.
|> 
|> My problem now is:  where do I contact any of these three to ask if
|> they are willing to write a letter?  Does anyone know address, phone,
|> e-mail for any of these?  For that matter; Mr. Biondi, Mr. Spitz, or
|> Ms. Williams; (if you are on the net) are you willing to pursue the
|> subject?
|> 
|> Please reply via e-mail as these individuals deserve the privacy they
|> want for themselves.

Well, I wouldn't dare publically post addresses.  However, I thought that
I'd share the secret of sending these letters (I've sent quite a few).

Use the PUBLIC LIBRARY.  Who's Who books and other books of the same type
(there's a bunch) all contain a mailing address (at least an address of
an agent).

I've written to (and received responses from) rock stars, politicians, 
athletes, movie stars, movie producers, and many more.

"Write letters to people and they write back..." - The Lazlo Letters
-- 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Brunner - (brunner@bnr.ca)
All opinions are my own and have nothing whatsoever to do with BNR, NT,
NTI, Bell Canada, or any of the BCE corporations or affiliates.
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
From: wayne@eng.umd.edu (Wayne C. McCullough)
Subject: Re: Continuing Scouting in college
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 14:03:54 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Jul29.215737.9648@mercury.unt.edu> danny@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Danny Faught) writes:
>It's great to see Alpha Phi Omega propaganda on USENET.  As I read your
>article, I was mentally kicking myself - why didn't I think of this?
>
>One of my missions is educating the scouting movement about APO, and 
>vice-versa.  Sadly, few Boy Scouts (or any other kind of scouts) have
>heard of APO.  That little paragraph in the Handbook just doesn't seem
>to do it (though the article on APO in _Scouting_ some time ago was 
>wonderful).  Just imagine the recruiting base, if every current or
>former scout entering college knew to look for an APO chapter, we
>wouldn't have to go to such lengths to recruit people.  And as far
>as benefitting scouting, APO has much to offer.  For example, some
>troops have a hard time organizing service projects, but APO chapters
>typically do several in a week, and scouts could be invited along.
>
I did look at APO when I got into college, and It seemed to me that
they have driffted quite far from the scouting I was used to.  The
local chapter (in college park) struck me as a social organizeation
more than anything else.  I am sure they did service, more than the
minimum, but in bulk, they were more concerned about the soical
aspects.

They also seemed to be very political (as in internal chapter politics,
not anyone elses), and I just can't stand that.  They did not seem to 
be the least bit interested in outdoorsmanship.

All that, and the $80 anual membership, I chose to stay away.

W

Newsgroups: rec.scouting
From: vftim@finans.rostov-na-donu.su (Timofeyev)
Subject: Russia is looking for financial colleges (schools)
Reply-To: vftim@finans.rostov-na-donu.su
Organization: Financial Technical Secondary School
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 19:25:45 +0300

    We are looking for  colleagues  of  foreign  financial/bank 
colleges  (secondary  schools) to  establish  professional  and  
personal  contacts and friendly relations.
    We  would  like  to  have  some  information on your College; 
education system in your country;  your advances and problems in  
teaching and training of boys and girls (on informatics, English-
German-French  language  studying,   budgeting  and   accounting,   
banking,  insurance and taxation, laws, using computers and local 
networks, E-mail and computer games, etc.); corresponding books,  
practical manuals,  software for  students; scouting.
    We are living in Rostov-on-Don - the big green city   (above 
1000000 inhabitants) on the Don river. Our college- Rostov School 
of Finance, where about  900  students  from  all  North Caucasus 
(basically  15/19-years-old girls)  are  studying and training on 
finance.  We have IBM-compatible computers and E-mail.
    A group of 5-7 teachers and students could be received for a 
week in July-August of 1992/93.
    Q.: Which USENET conferences are commonly used for discussion 
on financial colleges and financial education system?

 !! All required information on all financial/bank colleges and
institutes of Russia and XUSSR Republics could be sent (including
E-mail addresses (if necessary) !!


V.F. Timofeyev,  
53 Dolomanovsky Per.,  
Rostov School of Finance,Room 4
Rostov-on-Don, 344700, Russia (USSR)

Phone:          +7-8632-34-4600 (7:00am - 4:00pm GMT)
E-mail:  vftim@finans.rostov-on-don.su
or public@tlgk.rostov-na-donu.su (For Timofeyev - FIN)

   With best wishes   - Vlad F. Timofeyev
                        Chief engineer on PCs

P.S.   If you are not interested in our proposals, pass this 
message to a nearby college or secondary school, please.






Newsgroups: rec.scouting,alt.motss,alt.atheism,ba.politics,ca.politics
From: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Slagle)
Subject: Re: Support for Boy Scouts
Reply-To: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com
In-reply-to: rlosee@unlinfo.unl.edu's message of Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:29:45 GMT
Organization: You wouldn't ask this if you'd seen my desk.
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	<1992Jul27.162945.26087@unlinfo.unl.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 07:42:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.162945.26087@unlinfo.unl.edu>, rlosee@unlinfo.unl.edu (Robert Losee) writes:

> Alright Mark, I'm sorry if I'm distorting your beliefs but maybe you 
> can help me out here.  Do you have problems with the BSA in particular
> or in general are you claiming most/all organizations should be open 
> to all, including atheists?

> If it's the latter I find this a problem as I believe it infringes on 
> first amendment rights.

I think that most organizations should be open to all, including
atheists.  That is an article of my "faith".  But you know as well
as I do that my opinion has nothing whatever to do with the first
or any other amendment of the Constitution.  I have not asked the
government to step in and enforce my opinion, so why do you drag
the Constitution into this?  Your continued attempts to characterize
my beliefs as a manifestation of my bigotry or attempts to infringe
upon your rights to practice your religion are becoming tiresome.

I have been quite clear that I am not attempting, nor do I have
any desire, to prevent your free exercise of religion.  Neither
have I advocated any establishment of my particular view of religion
by the force of law, so why do you continue to insinuate that I
have?  

If what I have said is not clear to you, may I suggest that you
reread it more carefully.  I will be pleased to entertain arguments
about the specifics or the general nature of what I have said,
but I am not keen on continuing to debate distortions of them.
--
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Mark E. Slagle                                 PO Box 61059
slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com                       Sunnyvale, CA   94088
408-756-0895                                   USA
Newsgroups: rec.scouting