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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:04:16 -0400 
From: Pravin Devineni Ratnam <pr0i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: 13 year old earns degree

Balamurali writes:
***********
Assuming that he is talking about me ...
 
It just goes to prove that you can't believe everything you read in a 
newspaper, even stuff that appears on the New York Times front page.  
For example, Alessandra Stanley, the reporter who interviewed me, misspelled
my name as Balamurati K. Ambati, an error that was propagated throughout
virtually every media outlet that carried the story, despite my corrections.
As for her, shall we say, imaginative quotes about my being "anti-social"
the individuals whom she spoke to profusely apologized to me, insisting
that they said no such things.  For some strange reason, Ms. Stanley did
not include some of my social activities such as writing a book on AIDS,
donating some of the proceeds to flood relief, etc. in Tamilnadu & A.P.,
starting the "Educational Excellence Program" at the Temple in Flushing,
etc.
 
As a letter to NYT on May 25, 1990 (I think) from 2 professors at Brown
pointed out, many people, including reporters, have preconceived ideas
about "prodigies", and try to mold them into "nerds", "geeks", etc.  Those
of you interested in studies on the lives on "gifted" students can find
a lot of interesting data in the works of Terman, Stanley, Benbow, and others.
Among other observations, the overwhelming majority of these persons go
on to have successful and stable lives.  As a final point, let me mention
that the suicide-rate in this group is far less than that of the general
population, the isolated anecdotes of William Sidis, and a few others,
notwithstanding.
 
Balamurali K. Ambati
ambati@ubunix.buffalo.edu
 
******************



The above was in response to one of my messages in which I compared the
13 year old wonder to a NYC kid of similar origin. I think Balamurali is
right in assuming that I was referring to him(I couldn't remember the
name till I saw the above message). I never retracted what I have posted
on this bboard in the last 2 years. Since Balamurali has adamantly said
that the NYT did misleading profile of him, I will take his word for it.
I would like to take back my comments which gave the impression that
Balamurali had an immature attitude while in medical school. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rps@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (raj.sharma)
Subject: Re: Aditi, Arindam and me.
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:25:05 GMT


> Your comments about our evalution of you helped me to understand you even  
> better. Be passionate, but don't be illogical. Because thats when one gets  
> messed up and nothing really happens. Passion is the warmth of a  
> character. But logic is the intelligence. Proper combination of both can  
> do wonders. As for your religious faith, I believe in complete individual  
> freedom. So, I have no comment about your belief. Good Luck in your  
> mission whatever that might be.

	Arindam can't be but Arindam.
	You be you.
	Logic is but a tool of intelligence,
	but it's far from [being] the intelligence.

	Freedom is feedom,
	from belief in the "concept" of freedom itself.
	freedom knows no individual freedom,
	nor it knows "agreement" or "disagreement."
	nor luck or no-luck
	freedom is Freedom.
	
	Arindam can't be but Arindam.
	
	
---raj
From: partha@paul.rutgers.edu (the_great_dictator)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: West Bengal: Communists out, ? in
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:25:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Arindam Wrote:>I did not say CPIM eradicated beggars; but social conditions have improved
>so that much worse writers (no disrespect intended) like Sunil Ganguly or
>Samaresh Majumdar (They are certainly great as measured against the
>contemporaries) can have frequent trips to USA!

So also our great leader of poor people Mr Jyoti Basu, other
ministers, sports officials etc. Wonder how many people WB govt has
sent to Barcelona this time, they sent at least 6/7 people to mexico to
'observe' the world cup soccer (despite the despicable state of
calcutta in that particular sport, BTW those who are interseted, Kapil
Dev is playing for one of the 'top' clubs in calcutta this season..)...


> There was no rape in the 50s but a woman walking in the street
>without a male protector was considered as
>a prostitute (Ref: Satkahan:Samaresh Majumdar)

I dont think u can blame congress as a political party for that.
If it was CPI(M) raj all over India, it would still be true.

one should blame the society itself and one should also remember that
the memory of the world war two was still very vivid.. the war we
didn't really fight, but we lost in all sense.. in particular  as far as the
morality and social values go.. thanks to our british rulers and their pally
congress party who even today think that it was they only who fought
and won the 'battle of independence' ...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: raj@utkvx2.utk.edu (S. KANAKA RAJ)
Subject: Re: 'Hindu' Refugees
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:44:00 GMT

>>  The example of the East African Asians should have served as a warning, but
>>most of them had British passports, and few wanted to come to India. But since
>>then, Britain has altered its citizenship laws. Many fear that should an extrem
>>ist Black regime in South Africa start persecuting the Asians, people of Indian
>>origin will have nowhere else to go except for the mother country. Already,
>>there are fears of an exodus from Fiji, where Indians get an increasingly
>>worse deal.

>>   It is an unfamiliar role for Hindus to play. And unless the balance is
>>restored, the danger of a violent backlash will remain.


	Why talk about religion, 'Hindus' etc. Look at your own backyard. What
happened to Indians in India in 1984. And not so long ago, what happened to
Tamilians in Karnataka. When we ourselves do not respect our own people, how
can we expect that from others. Another thing. Other than Indians and Jews, I
do not see any other people going to another country and settling there. So you
have to compromise somewhere. It is the 'risk' that people take when they leave
their home. All Jews living outside Israel also have Israeli citizenship. They
have gone through the experience of repression and they are prepared for that.
It is in human nature to suspect the other guy. When it becomes paranoid,
nightmare starts.


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	It is always the other guy who does the mistake.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: gupta@utopia.sps.mot.com (Rajesh Gupta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Refund of Soc. security
Date: 31 Jul 92 00:17:00 GMT
Reply-To: gupta@utopia.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola, Inc.

Does anyone have any idea about the possibility of getting
back Social security deductions when returning to India without
getting a green card??

Any help appreciated.

--- Rajesh
From: tandulwas@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: How to use your spare time ( few Tips )
Date: 23 Jul 92 13:07:13 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia


       hello poor netter's  
     here are some tip's to relax yourself after all the stressful
  articles you are disposing on the SCI every day.
    just to find some useful occupation on your spare time you can
   try this out 
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

                  
                       "HOW TO HANDLE STRESS"


- Jam 39 tiny marshmallows up your nose and try to sneeze them out
- Take out all your dollar bills and draw moustaches on George Washington
- Pop some popcorn without putting the lid on
- When someone says "have a nice day," tell them you have other plans
- Skip the Diet Center and send yourself a candygram
- Make a list of things you've already done
- Dance naked in front of your pets
- Put your toddler's clothes on backwards and send him off to pre-school as
  if nothing were wrong
- Retaliate for tax woes by filling out your tax forms with Roman Numerals
- Tattoo "Surplus" on your forehead
- Tape pictures of your boss on watermelons and launch them from high places
- Leaf through National Geographic and draw underwear on the natives
- Go shopping.  Buy everything.  Sweat in it.  Return it the next day.
- Buy a subscription to Sleazoid Weekly and send it to your boss
- Pay your electric bill in pennies
- Drive to work in reverse
- Reflect on your favorite episode of The Flintstones during a meeting
- Sit naked on a shelled hardboiled egg
- Refresh yourself.  Put your tongue on a cold steel guardrail
- Tell your boss to blow it out of her mule and let her figure it out
- Polish your car with ear wax
- Read the dictionary upside down and look for a secret message
- Start a nasty rumor and see if you recognize it when it comes back to you
- Bill your doctor for time spent in her waiting room
- Braid the hairs in each nostril
- Write a short story, using alphabet soup
- Lie on your back eating celery - using your navel as a salt dipper
- Stare at people through the tines of a fork and pretend they're in jail
- Make up a language and ask people for directions.


I remain

( Lean Bean Mean )
From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Aditi Sens's e-mail address.
Date: 31 Jul 92 03:20:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


 Hello Ms.Sen,

  I just cannot understand why you have incorrect e-mail address ?? I rec'd
y'r e-mail, and, when I am trying to reply, it bumps back !!  What the hell
you think y'r upto ??? Anyway, with the help of Craig Buchanan I found out that
your actual e-mail address is:

 me@comstore.uark.edu and NOT me@comstore.uark.edu.uark.edu.

 Ridiculous !!! Do you think that someone is goin' to send you `lovely' 
 e-mails ? I feel that you are not that important so as someone would do such a
 thing ! At least, I don't think anybody would like to have his/ her account
 suspended !!!! Next time, put your true e-mail address; don't fake it.

 - deb chatterjee
(a good samaritan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 10:41:43 EDT
From: Krishin Asnani <krish@ans.net>
Subject: Satyajit Ray's APU TRILOGY in New York, New York

		APU TRILOGY IN NEW YORK, NEW YORK

As part of it Summer Foreign Film Festival '92, Symphony Space ,
located at 95th Street and Broadway will be showing Satyajit Rays "Apu
Trilogy" on Sunday, August 2, 1992.  The times are:

4:00 PM Panther Panchali
6:15 PM Aparjito
8:30 PM The World of Apu

Admission is $10 (for all 3 films).
             $6 for 2nd and/or 3rd film only.
From: phani@sj.ate.slb.com (Phanindra Vemuri)
Subject: Travelling to India...
Reply-To: phani@sj.ate.slb.com ()
Organization: Schlumberger ATE, San Jose
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 17:51:42 GMT


Hello everybody:
I have a few questions regarding buying of gold:

Firstly, is it cheaper and safer buying gold in USA or in Singapore?. 
If the latter, which shop in Singapore does one shop and where is it located
in that city?

Secondly, who are the Bay area's best jewellers to purchase 22-carat gold 
chains/bangles?
Is there a retail-shop operated by the US Govt. where one can buy gold coins
without paying those premium charges?

Any and all tips by those who have carried gold into India will be appreciated.

Lastly, what is the duty-free limit on electronic goods now?

Please reply by e-mail. I will summarize all answers and post on the net 
for everybody.

Thank you.

-Phani
From: cs461a09@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs461a09)
Subject: "POWERBASE" is a software or language???????
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 21:59:53 GMT


	"Powerbase" is it a software or language.
	=========================================

Hello,
	I will appreciate if any one can inform me about "POWERBASE".
One of the job advertisemnt for the position of "COmputer Operator"
needed the knowledge of "POWERBASE".

	My question: Is this a software package like dbase or
what exactly it does and what it is main use?  

Thanking in advance.

Avinash Apte.
From: prabhak@cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Canada versus U.S.A.
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:46:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Jul28.174640.29385
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

(Peter T Doran) writes:
> (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
>>
>>One thing is beyond dispute: Canadians produce far superior beer thatn
>>Americans.
>>
>>I always had this question: Why cannot a mainstream US beer producer make a beer
>>that has the character of a Canadian beer (not counting, of course,
>>expensive ales such as Samuel Adams)? Is it an arcane science that 
>>Americans cannot emulate or is it sheer ignorance of customer preferences.
>>
>I think perhaps the answer to your question is that the average beer
>drinker in the States thinks Budwis is a world-class beer. i have
>had bartenders in response to a question like "what's a good beer
>here?" (in a bar of many imports) say "Bud". I was in a place just
> 
[I hesitated before posting continuing this thread on sci, then I
looked around at other postings and realized that a discussion of
beers is more stimulating (npi) than sexual viruses. So here it is.]

Perhaps you must have heard this joke too:

 Q: What is the similarity between American beer and having sex on the beach?
 A: Both are &*^%ing close to water!

Well, perhaps that is uncharitable; there are a few American beers
which are Canadian clones: Strohs Signature, Leinenkugel, etc.
But they all perform poorly with respect to fidelity. One exception
is the Bostonian lager Samuel Adams, but my wife will throw me out
if I spend half my paycheck on beer.

I agree with your argument that beer manufactures make what the people
want. So, it is not the beer that is bad, it is the community of 
beer-drinkers that is pathetic in its discrimination.

>I'm Canadian and I do not put the avaerage Canadian beer on such a 
>high pedistal as you do. Granted, i would take a Blue before a bud
>any day, but Blues and Exports and Goldens are not produced with TLC.
>They are pumped out in a few weeks time with a chemical assist. Upper
>Canada seems a good alternative, but then you're getting out of the
>Canadian mainstream as well.

I like Blue. Other beers that attract my fancy: St. Pauli Girl,
Fosters, Stengers, Molson, Moosehead. Do you have any other
recommendations?

>Real buring social issue, eh?

I don't take my beer lightly (pun definitely intended!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: st1jh@rosie.uh.edu (Ramchandani, Sanjil)
Subject: Re: Emmigration Clearance Check on Passport?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:51:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul14.201723.26517@oakhill.sps.mot.com>, guri@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Gurvinder Singh Ahluwalia) writes...
>rc05@gte.com (Ramesh Chandak) writes:
> 
>>Question : Does a person leaving India need some kind of Emmigration
>>(or is it Immigration?) clearance stamp on passport ?  If yes, where
>>does one obtain such clearance in India ( to be specific, in Bombay )?
> 
>Emmigration clearance stamp was need at on time.  Since August 92, it has
>been expempted for travel to the US.  I am not aware of the rule for travel
>to other nations.
> 
>--
>Gurvinder Ahluwalia



Yes I remember that in August 1991 when I came to US, this stamp was essential
although the govt. of India had given clearance that emigration clearance
was not required for European countries including North America. This could
be done from Passport Office from Bombay at Dr. Annie Besant Road, Prabhadevi.
Bombay 400 025. Alternatively you could get this stamped through your travel
agent who would do it for a fee of Rs. 50 but in case you want to do it on
your own, it is a painful process since you have to deal with govt. employees
and you know how inefficient they can be.

Hope this info would be useful to you.

Sanjil Ramchandani
st1jh@jetson.uh.edu
From: shrirang@Autodesk.COM (Shrirang Moghe)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: ***  F1(A) -> F1(B)  ***
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:18:07 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA


Dear Netters,


Can a person change schools even before the person has joined
the school the person had got admission to and visa for ?

A friend of mine wants to pursue education a school whose
I-20 hasn't arrived as yet. So this friend could go to the
consulate and get F1 on a different I-20 and then when in
the US can my friend change to school of supposing the I-20
of the other school is now ready ?

Does my friend have to attend atleast one quarter/semester
at the school for which the F1 visa was granted ? OR can
my friend directly start attending the new school telling
the International Student's Office about this ?


You input will be greatly valued. Thanx a lot!


shrirang

[shrirang@autodesk.com]
tel: 415/332-2344, x/2543

Organization: Heinz School, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 18:37:38 -0400 
From: Ashish Arora <ashish+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Regarding RAW-Mossad Nexus to Fight Terrorism

Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.indian: 24-Jul-92 Re: Regarding
RAW-Mossad Ne.. by Bapa Rao@pollux.usc.edu 
> I am less sanguine that this happy ending would come about. 
> I think enlisting Israeli help is a short-sighted step. 
>  
> I don't think it is possible to receive Israeli training in
> counterterrorism without imbibing their philosophy, which is
> highly problematic when applied to the Indian situation. The
> Israeli philosophy is one of exclusion of a hostile population
> and takeover of their land, whereas India has to adopt a 
> consciously inclusive policy if it is to survive as a nation. 
>  
> It is a sad commentary on the level of India's national 
> self-respect and will to prevail that it has, yet again, shown an
> unwillingness to develop homegrown solutions to domestic 
> problems and instead opted for forcibly transplanting a 
> foreign solution, that is, on the face of it, counterproductive
> to the goal of national unity and survival. 
>  
> It is even sadder to see that India of all countries should
> ignore the fundamental principle of not setting fire to the
> neighbor's house. Only the naive would imagine that Mossad,
> once invited in, would confine its activities to serving
> India's goals in a disinterested fashion, or allow its
> activities to be controlled by RAW. There have been enough 
> scandals about the infiltration of Indian military and civilian
> intelligence services by Western intelligence agencies. It
> is virtually certain that RAW will be infiltrated by Mossad.
> This alone should give Israel's cheerleaders pause, if they
> consider themselves seriously patriotic. I suggest that these
> people review their Panchatantra. (I recommend the story about
> the frog that invited a snake into the pond to devour its
> froggy enemies, with obvious long-term consequences to itself.)

I think that Mr. Rao has made a point that needs to be thought about. 

cheers
From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Calcutta: Degrading social and political life.
Keywords: Florence Nightingale without the lamp. (She has to buy one !)
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:30:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul22.163215.29895@engr.uark.edu>, me@comstore.uark.edu 
(My Account) writes...
>.... (stuff deleted) ....
>Your solution to the problems are so superficial..... (stuff deleted) ....
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Really !!!! I am amazed to see a Lady Without the Lamp amongst her raped
 gender (women) ! I have proposed the solution as DE-STABILIZING the CPI(M)
 government RIGHT NOW. I see no other alternative !!!! I feel that Cong(I)
 did not rape women on duty (Bantala, May 27 1990) and then burn them to death.
 Your vague answer is based on what happened in the past and what are the most
 general characteristics of politicians in India. Anybody can parrot out that
 from any book. YOU ARE IGNORANT AND NAIVE. Please tell me, why ONLY in West
 Bengal the police are allowed to go on strike ???? Why Kalimuddin Shams, a 
 Forward Bloc MLA - backed by CPI(M) after masterminding the brutal murder of
 Deputy Commissioner Vinod Mehta, was allowed to go scot free ? What action did
 CPI(M) take in the name of democracy ????? Idris, the alleged (by CPI(M)) died
 in police custody in Lalbazzar !!! How can this happen when CPI(M) has TOTAL
 control over the police by methodical infiltratation in its ranks ????????? 

>we all know, the Cong(I) are no better. 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 TRUE but they don't profess to be a bunch of goddamn Marxists, do they ?????  

>So we are stuck. I don't know where to go from here. -- Aditi Sen.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 My dear lady, you have lost your lamp !!!!! YOU ARE BLIND TOO !!!!!

 - deb chatterjee
(a good samaritan) 
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:26270 soc.women:14227 talk.abortion:29376
From: vkkashya@grand.waterloo.edu (Vijay Kashyap)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.women,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Abortion and the status of Indian women
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:31:16 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

In article <92210.081500RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:

	***STUFF DELETED***

>    just his assets.  He counts both and subtracts  his debts from his
>    assets. Surely this is a more realistic way of proceeding.
>
>    1.  India, in its 45 years of independence, has already had a  powerful
>    woman prime minister.   The US, in  its 216 years  of independence, has
>    yet to  have even  a woman  vice-president.  For  all the lambasting of
>    male white  heterosexuals that  we see  in the  media, all  four people
>    currently running for major parties belong to this category.
>
	***STUFF DELETED***

>         Rohit Parikh

IMHO, this argument does not hold. It was because Nehru did not have a son.
The next PM after assassination of Indira Ghandhi was a man because
Rajiv Ghandhi was her son and not her daughter. The point is that it
is inheritance that is imporatant here rather than worthness or
opportunities for women in India.

Rest of the above referenced article made a good reading.

Regards
-- Viajy Kashyap
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: asrini@sanjuan (Anand Srinivasan)
Subject: Re: Question on IIT Kanpur/IIT Delhi
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria B.C. CANADA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 23:35:16 GMT

In article <BrwHC9.C21@ecf.toronto.edu> srini@ecf.toronto.edu (KANDALA SRINIVAS) writes:
>In article <l708h7INN2j1@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu> ghatak@cs.utk.edu (Subhendu Ghatak) writes:
>>Hi friends,
>>  In which department is Dr. K R Srivatsan of IIT Kanpur please ? 
>>  I believe he is in charge of the ERNET project there.
>>
>I think i can answer this question. He is at IIT Kanpur.
>The address is 
>
>
>>  Also what is the PIN code for IIT Kanpur and IIT Delhi please ?
>				^^^^^^^^	^^^^^^^^^
>				208016 		No idea!
>>

	Indian Institute of Technology
	Hauz Khas, New Delhi 110016.

ASrini
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram)
Subject: Re: Extra-marital relationships
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 06:42:28 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.052746.25679@csrd.uiuc.edu> ghosh@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh) writes:
>This is what Richard A. Rosen says in "Sex and Reason" on the subject
>of sexual morality which I think underlies the question of whether
>extra-marital relations is not the done thing or not.  Its relevance
>to sci is that I think we too will go through the same stages.
>
.... (stuff deleted)
>
>In stage 3, as in stage 1, and in contrast to stage 2, men enjoy 
>almost complete sexual license.  The difference between stages 1
>and 3 is that in the latter, but not in the former, women do too.


What is meant by sexual license here?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian