From: keegan@pan.crd.ge.com (James G Keegan Jr)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: The world according to propeller-boy - part 1
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:46:09 GMT
Reply-To: james g keegan jr <keegan@crd.ge.com>
Organization: T.S.A.K.C.
Disclaimer: i speak for myself only, unless noted otherwise

this is reposted from alt.flame. i think it's something every
t.a. reader should read. 


In article <mXNkoB13w165w@mantis.co.uk>
	mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes:
-> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
-> > In article <1992Jul26.071706.27012@cs.cmu.edu> garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garv
-> > >In article <1992Jul26.001305.18495@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin D
-> > >#Willing to explain, as in, speaks from experience? Gee, sounds like you 
-> > >#hooked a real winner there, Susie dear. Say, how long is Mr. Right's 
-> > >#
-> > >#prison furlough?
-> [...]
-> > Say, if you cared so much about the feelings of your virtual
-> > S.O. in this matter, why did you expose him to my post,
-> > along with the entire talk.abortio newsgroup? Could it be
-> > that your S.O.'s nightmare is more useful as AMMO against
-> > Big Bad Kebbin than as something to let heal?
-> 
-> That's right, Kevin.  Imply that Susan's S.O. is a
-> child-abuser.  Then when she responds that he isn't, and that
-> in fact he was abused as a child, you can pretend she's just
-> revealing the information as a sob story.
-> 
-> Quality flaming from Mister Compassion.
-> 
-> >                                                    You seem
-> > to playing his experience for maximum effect, Susie dear, so
-> > don't preach to me about how "sickening" my remarks are --
-> > YOU AND YOUR S.O. set yourselves up for it, and you're both
-> > reacting oh so predictably well...
-> 
-> That's right, Kevin.  Anyone who reveals that he suffered
-> child abuse is doing so just because he wants someone like you
-> to come along and make jokes about it.
-> 
-> Kevin, you really are a complete bastard.  I was prepared to
-> overlook your joking about child abuse as just evidence of a
-> sick sense of humour.  After all, that's something I'm guilty
-> of.
-> 
-> Let's be honest, you probably should have been able to work
-> out that Susan wasn't likely to be stating that she is in love
-> with someone she knows to be a child-abuser.  However, I'm
-> even willing to allow for the possibility that that thought
-> didn't occur to you.
-> 
-> But after it turned out that the person you were suggesting
-> was a child-abuser was actually a *victim* of abuse, I hoped
-> you might apologize. I hoped for something along the lines of
-> "Sorry, it hadn't occurred to me that your S.O. was a victim
-> of child abuse, I shouldn't have made such a tasteless
-> comment."
-> 
-> Of course, you're not known for your ability to apologize or
-> admit mistakes, so I expected that you would just quietly let
-> the thread drop.
-> 
-> I didn't expect that you would capitalize on Susan's posting
-> by claiming that it was an emotional appeal, rather than
-> simply a response to your crass joke.  I didn't expect that
-> you'd keep the same smug "I knew you were going to say that"
-> tone.
-> 
-> This may be alt.flame, but there are limits to what I consider
-> reasonable behaviour when flaming.  If anyone's capitalizing
-> on Susan's S.O.'s experience, it's you; you're the one
-> laughing about it, and using the fact that it was posted as
-> ammunition against those you wish to take swipes at.  I
-> consider your behaviour to be undignified, uncivilized, in
-> fact downright barbaric.
-> 
-> I don't wish to get involved in a lengthy discussion of this
-> matter.  I just want you to know that you've just been
-> downgraded in my estimation from "compulsive, hypocritical and
-> evasive flamer" to "unconscionable bastard".
-> 
-> Now go ahead, dredge up the Ken vs. Gypsy thread from
-> talk.bizarre.  Prove me right.  My point in that thread was
-> that I felt Ken Johnson was being assumed to be malicious when
-> the evidence didn't warrant it.  In your case, I think the
-> evidence is pretty much stacked in favour of the idea that
-> malice is the single overriding motivation behind everything
-> you post.
-> 
-> Also, bear in mind that even in the talk.bizarre thread, *I*
-> wasn't the one making jokes about child abuse.
-> 
-> 
-> mathew
-> -- 
-> "Even the most bizarre of the unions (probably that between a
-> cat's gall stone and a single note 'G' from CNN's ident theme)
-> managed to convey a sense of rampant impropriety."  --
-> 'Fortran Five', Simon G. Lawrence Leonard


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