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From: troyf@microware.com (Troy Frericks)
Subject: Re: Quick radar question about traffic ticket
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:17:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.223420.11264@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> harsh@inetnode.austin.ibm.com (Harsh Sharma) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.162441.26167@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> mental@cntrol.enet.dec.com () writes:
>>	And I suppose if they're all going fast, the radar selects the RED
>>	car. 8^)
>>
>>	/ken
>>
>
> Especially if it's a sports car. I have just bought myself a sports car
> and am very cautious about not being caught. I bought a passport 3200 and
> so far it has not let me down.
>
> How do the cops driving in the opposite direction (on the other side of
> the freeway) calculate the speed of the car? Do they subtract their car's
> speed from the reading they get? Does the radar take care of that by itself?
> What is the error in that?
>
>harsh-
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The radar takes care of it.  There is a 'low beam' that reads the 'speed' of the
approaching road, and a 'high beam' that measures the closing speed of the target
vehicle.  The two speeds are subtracted.  This adds another element of error
to radar, that 'low beam' that is.  If the low beam, rather than reading the road,
may read a slow moving tractor along side the road, or a fence along side the road
(creating a cosign error), the squad car can be perceved as going slower than it
really is, there by making the target vehicle look like it is going faster than
it really is (by the same ammount).

There is an org that has lots of info.  It is called RADAR (1-800-448-5170).  They
just informed me that

	RADAR DETECTORS ARE NOW ILLEGAL IN IL FOR USE IN TRUCKS & BUSES.

NY is the other state where detectors are illegal for trucks & buses.  Canada, DC,
VA are the other locations where detectors are illegal for all vechcles.


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From: mchaffee@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (REAL LIFE?!?!  HA!!)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: shoud there be two different licences
Date: 12 Nov 92 04:11:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxL4yr.315
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

jailbird@next02wor.wam.umd.edu (serial killer) writes:




>Hey people,

>What do you  think about this

>Should we have a one licence to operate a manual transmisssion and one for  
>automatic, ecept if you know how to drive a mnual you can drive a auto  
>with no problem.  I'm asking this because I almost crashed in to someone  
>who borrowed his friends car with a 5 speed which he didn't know how to  
>drive at all. He was going about 50 in 4th gear and downshifted into first  
>while his tires locked up.

>Why should a person be allowed to drive a 5 speed unless he has proven he  
>knows how to? This person could be endangering other people on the road we  
>speak


Seems to me like that would be a waste of time and money.  Admittedly there is
a problem with clueless people driving stick shifts, but you could successfully
argue for any number of such restrictions.  For instance:
	Fast cars ( I know of several instances where people borrowed their
		daddy's/boyfriend's/girlfriend's/etc. Mustang/Camaro/etc. and
		proceeded to skid into things (especially bad in the rain))
	Vans/trucks - How many of us have seen the morons in vans that seem to
		think they're driving cars? 
	Snow - Should people visiting Chicago from California be allowed to 
		drive in December?
	City - Kid from the 'burbs borrows Mom's car to go downtown.  Has no
		idea what he's doing.
There are so many different driving situations that you could never hope to 
regulate them all.  One would hope you could expect people to be sensible and
drive only cars and conditions they can handle.  Sadly, this is not the case.
I think the only governmental solution would be to provide more comprehensive
driver education, i.e. stickshift, automatic, fwd, rwd, ABS, non-ABS, city,
country, etc.  This isn't very practical either; perhaps the most sensible way
to handle the problem is to provide very stiff fines in cases where the driver
is guilty of incompetence related to the situation.  Again, this is not prac-
tical really; it would be difficult to differentiate between negligence and
pure incompetence.

I think the only solution is for us, the learned stick/auto/city/highway/snow/
rain/etc. ad nauseum drivers to cope is to practice safe defensive driving.
Sorry.

-- 
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From: sibu@cse.unl.edu (Sibabrata Ray)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Help, 86 renault
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:34:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: crcnis1.1dn3ikINNmqi
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
NNTP-Posting-Host: cse.unl.edu

I want to buy an 1986 renault. Single owner, two door, 
4-speed, Stick. 73,000 miles.
The owner is asking for $1600. I don't know much
about cars. Can any kind soul enlighten me about
how the deal is? I need to specifically know
what are the problems to anticipate.

It will be very helpful if you mail your reply
to me at sibu@cse.unl.edu.

Thanks,

sibu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Subject: Re: Auto-stick WAS:Re: FLAME! Only a manual
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 21:26:28 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <1992Nov6.135637.11563@bsu-ucs>, 01ksdavis@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Rebel without a clue.) writes:
|> 
|> 	The beauty of this (from now on I will use auto-stick, for economy of
|> typing) transmission is the fact that you still had to shift, but you didn't
|> have to do anything with the clutch.  Out of the three different types of cars
|> that I have had experience with driving, the auto-stick gave the smoothest ride
|> and felt like a more natural way to drive.

|> 	Kyle
|> -- 
|> 
|>  ______________________________________________________________________________
|> |Kyle S. Davis	   

correct me if i'm wrong but:  this sounds like a car with an automatic
transmission and a manual valve body.  i believe such a valve body for
common old american transmissions is pretty cheap.  when originally planning
my "utimate car" i was thinking i wanted a TH400 with a manual valve body
(this has since been changed to a 5-speed G-Force tranny).  i believe a 
manual valve body for a TH400 is < $100.


axel
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Minivan experiences
From: <KANTOLA@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 14:30:35 CST
Distribution: na
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

     I drive a 1991 Dodge Caravan for the government and I have to say (even
though I dislike Mopar) I am impressed.  It's very solid, quiet, and has an
adequate amount of power.  The interior feels and looks excellent, esp.
the new dash.  (Unfortunately, I don't fuel it so I can't tell you the mileage)
So far, only minute things have gone wrong such as the plastic around the seats
easily ripped, etc...  They weren't that bad until the warranty ran out.  Now
they're just a nuisance. Still, I would seriously consider this van.  Right
now it's the vehicle of choice in the building. (Also, it's started every time
in the cold North Dakota mornings.)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: paquetis@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Paquette Isabelle)
Subject: master cylinder (clutch)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:33:54 GMT

Hi, all
I have a question concerning the clutch master cylinder. I drive a toyota corolla GTS (1987) with 97000 km (approx. 60 000 mi), mostly highway. I noticed that the clutch pedal felt somewhat spongy (since a few weeks) but had no probl. until
yesterday, when the clutch had trouble engaging and disengaging (in the morning,
and also at the end of day, but not once warmed up). Took it to my mechanic
who diagnosed a loose or cracked seal around master cylinder.

My question is, can the seal only be replaced? or is it possible that the cyl. 
itself is wrecked. And if so, why?
Mech. says the part (master cyl.) is worth $110 (can; about $85 U.S.)
How much should such a job cost (incl. labour?)

Thanks for your hints
(Oh, I'd rather you reply thru E-mail...)

Isabelle.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:16:06 EST
From: Karl Nordstrom <KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Toyota V8

kimata@convex.com (Hiroki Kimata) says:
>
>>Which was the first Toyota with a V8?  When and where did it come out?
>
>I believe LS400 was the first. Of course,it came out in U.S. at first.

Would it fit in the Supra?
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Noise when turning left -- mitigates when applying brake. Huh?
From: stubbs@hawk.cs.ukans.edu (Jerry Stubbs)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:45:14 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Kansas Computer Science Dept


probably your CV joints on the front axle.  time for a new car!

Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
From: mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Mshar)
Subject: Re: Underdrive pullys - Any experiences?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:16:22 GMT

> bbarkey@lark.utah.edu (Brian Barkey) writes:
>> hartzfel@cps.msu.edu (Michael Hartzfeld) writes:

>>Hey folks,
>>
>>Has anybody installed underdrive pullys?  Did they make much of a 
>>performance improvement?  Are they worth the hassle?  Are they worth
>>the money?  How did your battery life hold up?  I am considering them
>>for a weekend-toy kind of car, so daily use would not be a concern.
>>Any comments would be appreciated.  Thanks.
>>
>>Hartz
>
>Uh.. What are underdrive pulleys (pullys?) ?

Under-drive pulleys are replacement pulleys for all of the accessories on a
car. By putting a smaller pulley on the crank, and larger pulleys on all of
the accessories (alternator, ps pump, etc), these accessories end up
turning slower than they would on a car with normal drive pulleys. In
effect, the gear ratio is made lower, so that the engine does not need as
much power to turn the accessories. 

The good part is that supposedly you can gain anywhere from 5-15 horsepower
by doing this. The bad part is that the accessories won't function the way
they did with the regualr pulleys. For example, the alternator will not be
able to put out as much current, especially at low rpm's. This can have the
effect of draining the battery, if the car is driven in city traffic. 

I don't know anyone that has tried these things yet, so I cannot say if I
would recommend them.
-- 
|       Michael G. Mshar        | My Life-Long Goal: To keep common sense    |
|   mmshar@mn.ecn.purdue.edu    | alive and keep the idiots from taking over.|
|  mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu   |     \\President, Nice Guys Anonymous//     |
|____>>> United States Steel, Mechanical Engineer, Technical Services <<<____|
From: hhtra@usho21.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Valentine R. D. Shipping delays
Keywords: Valentine ONe
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:50:15 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Nov9.183245.26370@panix.com>, shawn@panix.com (Shawn Herzinger) writes:
|> I just ordered a Valentine One Radar Detector based on the
|> 1st place finish in the Oct. Car and Driver.  The lady on
|> the phone told me that orders taken now (Nov. 9) will be
|> shipping in June!  That's a hell of a backlog.

 I hear that Bell and Escort now have 6-8 week backlogs for their
 models.  I guess some of the Valentine folks couldn't wait.

 I remember when you could get Escorts and Passports 2nd Day Air.

 Escort is now offering a package deal for their Passport 3200 and
 Lidar detector - get both for just $260.  That's about $40 off.

 TRAVIS
Xref: sparky rec.autos:26686 rec.autos.tech:15388
From: mike@gilligan.East.Sun.COM (Mike Roncadori)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Dodge Intrepid
Followup-To: rec.autos
Date: 13 Nov 1992 07:14:18 -0500
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc., Vienna, VA.
NNTP-Posting-Host: gilligan.east.sun.com
Keywords: Good? Bad?

Hi...

I saw the new Dodge Intrepid on the road the other day, and it
looks pretty nice to me... I haven't seen one up close yet.

I was kind of wondering if anyone has any experience with it.
Stuff like have you test driven one? What did you think? How
competitive is the pricing?

Since it's a new car, I'm sure we won't know a good bit about
it for a while, but I'm just kind of curious...

Please reply via email... I don't read r.a.t or r.a

	Mike Roncadori	mike@East.Sun.COM

-- Mike
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: Service Engine soon light coming on
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 22:43:48 GMT

In article Fo@hsi.com, geiste@hsi.com (Doug Geiste) writes:
>I'm hoping that someone can point my the right direction for this problem.
>
>My 1987 Pontiac Grand Am (4 cyl) has a problem with the Service Engine
>Soon light comes on. The car runs fine though except for one noticable thing.
>
>I was sitting in the car with the engine running waiting for the light to
>come on (my wife said it takes a few minutes after the car has warmed
>up before the light comes on). Just before the light came on, the engine's
>RPM went up slightly. I could almost smell something like sulfur. Sounds
>like catalytic (sp?) converter. Could someone tell me what the possible
>causes are of this light coming on? The air filter is new so it's getting
>air ok. It's been a while since it's had a tune-up though. The light 
>will go off/on intermittently while driving the car.

Your on-board computer is messed up or your converter is fouled.
I suggest having an engine diagnostic test to find out why the
light comes on.

Torque Monger

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Mshar)
Subject: Re: Rotary vs. Piston Engines
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:26:57 GMT

>lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell) writes:
>> mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Mshar) writes:
>>> Karl Nordstrom <KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>>How is the rotory lubricated?  Does oil get into the fuel?
>>
>>That`s a damned good question. Without the reciprocation, how is the oil
>>kept from getting into the combustion area and burning with the rest of the
>>fuel??
>>
>>Hmmmmmm...
>>
>>Anybody with a rotary want to take this??
>>
>    Well, considering that on a reciprocating engine, SOME oil DOES
>    get into the combustion chamber and gets burned with the fuel.
>
>    And as the rings wear, more and more oil makes its way into the
>    combustion chamber.
>
>    On the rotary, the tips of the rotor seals are lubricated with
>    oil....rather like the rings on a piston engine.

Well, that still doesn`t answer my question. In a reciprocating engine, the
piston moves upward in the cylinder, spreading a film of oil as it goes.
Once the piston reaches TDC, it starts travelling downward, taking most of
the oil with it, because of the rings. Now, I realize that a small amount
of oil remains on the cylinder wall, because piston rings are not perfect.

Now, with a rotary, what part of the engine pushes the film of oil back
away from the combustion chamber?? This is what I am asking. 
-- 
|       Michael G. Mshar        | My Life-Long Goal: To keep common sense    |
|   mmshar@mn.ecn.purdue.edu    | alive and keep the idiots from taking over.|
|  mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu   |     \\President, Nice Guys Anonymous//     |
|____>>> United States Steel, Mechanical Engineer, Technical Services <<<____|
From: cf947@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chun-Hung Wan)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: importing Japanese cars
Date: 6 Nov 1992 21:11:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cf947@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chun-Hung Wan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Can someone tell me where in the States I can find a company that imports
Japanese cars into the country?  Any information will be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks
-- 
A motion picture major at the Brooks Institute of Photography, CA
Santa Barbara and a foreign student from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

"The mind is the forerunner of all states."
From: chaoluo@northstar.dartmouth.edu (Chao Luo)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Driver's Manual For 87 Mazda B2000 B.U.
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:05:42 GMT
Organization: Project NORTHSTAR, Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH


I need a copy of the driver's manual (or user's manual) for
87 Mazda B2000 B.U. (2wd, long bed) pickup truck.
Would somebody in this net please let me know where I can
get one?
I've tried the Mazda dealer in the area where I'm living, they
don't have anything that old. (They only have 90 and up.)

I don't know if it is possible for somebody who has a copy of the
manual to lend me his/her copy so that I can make a copy of it and
send it back afterwords.  I will pay the mailing cost, of course.
Or better, if somebody has an extra copy to give away, I'm willing
to buy it.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: ar12@quads.uchicago.edu (Andre Robotewskyj)
Subject: JOIN MAIL LIST ON RECESSION, DEBT & JAPAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply-To: ar12@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:31:19 GMT

DISTRIBUTION LIST FOR ARTICLES ABOUT US FOREIGN TRADE PROBLEM, FOREIGN
AGENTS AND THE NATIONAL DEBT....NOW TAKING NAMES.
 
This is a note to inform all of you about a distribution list we run 
which distributes about once a month, articles about the U.S. trade, 
political and debt situation. This newsgroup may not be around much 
longer, so we're doing our best to set up a distribution list now 
before we all lose contact with each other. If ever you wish to be
removed from the list, I would delete you immediately.
 
Recently you may have seen some articles on this group
(one about Japanese trade policy (JAPANYES), and other was a list
of 'foriegn agents' who are high level government people who sell 
you out to foreign companies for bribes and 'fees'. 
 
These articles are usually not available via other media which is why
we run this list.
 
These files were first sent down our receiver list before they were posted 
generally. (These files (the Japan ones) are currently at anonymous FTP 
site monu6.cc.monash.edu.au   in    pub/nihongo    
(read the INDEX file in that directory for details)).
 
In the future, we won't be posting these as often, but rather sending
them down the distribution list. If you would like to be on the
distribution list for these articles (one every month or so), please
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From: rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com (Bob Haar)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Corvette's Passive Keyless Entry (PKE)
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:04:48 GMT
Reply-To: rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com
Organization: G.M. Research and Environmental Staff

In article 53060088@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com, leonglaw@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Lawrence LEONG) writes:
|>In rec.autos, bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe) writes:
|>|
|>   [deleted stuff about PKE]
|>|
|>|If you leave the key in the ignition and try to manually lock the doors,
|>|they will automatically unlock.  If you lock your keys and transmitter
|>|in the car by mistake and they are not in the ignition, you simply shake
|>|the car and the transmitter will "wake up" (it goes into a sleep mode
|>|after 25 seconds) and unlock the doors.
|>|
|>|It's a neat system that takes a short amount of time to get used to.
|>
|>Neat?  If you forget and lock your keys in the car, you could also walk 
|>away and forget it (eg left on seat).  Someone comes along, shakes the car
|>awake, and drives off  (half) ;-).  Pity no one imports 'vettes here.  Could
|>do with one :-) :-)
|>

That's not much differnet for a car without PKE. If you leave the keys 
in the car, you are asking for it to be stolen. Even if you lock the
doors with the keys inside, it is really easy to get into most cars.
---
	Robert Haar               InterNet : rhaar@gmr.com 
	Computer Science Dept., G.M. Research and Environmental Staff
DISCLAIMER: Unless indicated otherwise, everything in this note is
personal opinion, not an official statement of General Motors Corp.


Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: bpita@ctp.com (Bob Pitas)
Subject: Re: Quick radar question about traffic ticket
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:24:57 GMT

In article <208@mogun.UUCP> dcg@mogun.UUCP (David Gunsul) writes:
>In article <1992Nov3.201840.16703@cbnewsi.cb.att.com>, ca@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (christopher.arnone) writes:
>> In article <1992Nov2.160735.4015@dvorak.amd.com>, martin@dvorak.amd.com (Martin Schuessler) writes:
>> > 
>> > 
>> 	The truth is that they don't give a damn about whether they get the
>> right person or not, its simply a revenue raising issue.  In court, your
>> word usually means nothing.  Accused murderers have more rights and are looked

No shit!  At least if you murder someone, they have to prove that you DID it.
In traffic court, for some reason (and constitution be damned!) you have to
prove that you DIDN'T do it, or you get fined!

>> upon with more respect by our justice system....
>
>Ya right, and if a speeder ran over someone you knew because he
>was going to fast to stop you'd be the one yelling the loudest
>that the cops don't pull enough speeders over!

I don't think many people want the speed limits in highly populated town/city
streets to be raised.  It's the highway speeds that are artificially low.
If my friend was playing on the *highway* and he got hit, I'd be yelling
for more education and better fences, not cops pulling over more speeders!
(Duh?)
Speeding doesn't kill, people who can't control their vehicles do the
killing...
I'd bet that if all road had no speed limits at all, the total # of accidents
wouldn't be raised significantly, although the # of fatalities might, since
losing control because you're going faster than your ability to control
the car is more likely to be fatal at higher speeds.
I also offer that the average speed on the unlimited-speed roads wouldn't
change by more than 10 MPH.  People go however fast they feel safe.  The
speed limits are there because insurance company lobbiests have spread
total bullshit over the truth, so they can make more money by raising 
premiums for people who go over their artificially low limit.
BTW, I'm not for letting everyone drive 100MPH in Hyundais with their
hands on the stereo tuner...  If I had my way, every driver would be
required to attend Bob Bondourant's School of High Performance Driving
before they could get their licenses!  Instead of slowing everyone down
to the lowest common denominator, get some of the retards off the road!

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