HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rk@nms.hls.com (S Ramakrishnan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.tamil
Subject: Silk Smitha (Was: Re: EVR - Part II (Atheism))
Date: 18 Aug 92 04:10:02 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.tamil
Organization: Hughes LAN Systems Inc., Mountain View, Ca
Originator: ramakris@csgrad.cs.vt.edu

In article <1992Aug17.113948.13817@umiami.ir.miami.edu> lkumar@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes:
  ...
  >		* Can Silk Smitha or Anuradha also get same proximity
  >		  to Kanchi Mutt ... as Miss Jaya ....

Actually I have followed with interest the career of Silk Smitha.
She seems to have vanished into oblivion after such remarkable 
performances as in "Alaigal Oyvathillai" and "Moonram Pirai". 
Is she at all still active as an actress ? What's she upto now ?

Following her, an array of Grade B actresses entered the film industry,
obviously emulating her style:

    Cotton Kamala,
    Rayon Revathi,
    Nylex Nalini,
    Polyester Parimala,
    Shiffon Sheila,
    Rexin Radha  and
    Khadder Kala.

I first read a brief report on them in Kumudam. These actresses would 
figure in movies designed to test the moral fabric (pun unintended) of 
the society. Does anyone have any more info on these film personalities ?

Thanx.

  >Laxman

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S Ramakrishnan, Hughes LAN Systems Inc., Mountain View, Ca
From: partha@mse.ogi.edu (R. Parthasarathy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: INDIAN FOOD FAIR AT BEAVERTON
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:10:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.41249
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute, Material Science & Engineering



			INDIA FOOD BAZAAR

	Date: August 15th, Saturday

	Venue: Oregon Graduate Inst.

	Time: 3PM to 8PM

	Free Admission

	Come and taste a variety of Indian food items!

	Direction: Take US 26 West
		   Take the Exit at 185th Ave. Turn Left
		   Take Right at SW Walker Road	
		   Take Left at Compton Dr (Walker Rd. Ends there)
		   OGI is on the left hand side. 
		   Reach the Quadrangle where the Food fair is held.
From: nraju@usc.edu (Narayanan Raju)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Regarding I hate Tamils
Date: 18 Aug 1992 19:40:43 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nunki.usc.edu

>From: uds@parvathi.cs.wayne.edu (Seetamraju)

>As for Hindi, a huge percentage of telugus can pronounce
>the word hindi correctly. 




Hey, how many HINDIANS can pronounce TAMIL properly.


Raju
raju@spock.usc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: mvishnu@morse.uwaterloo.ca (m vishnu)
Subject: Re: Ancient Indian mathematics
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:24:16 GMT

In the last months issue of 'Indian Journal of History of Science', there
was an article about an Old Malayalam (which is similar to Tamil) manuscript
where 'proofs' are given to mathematical results.  

Meenan Vishnu
From: sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu (M. Sundaramoorthy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Tongue twisters (naamadakkigaL?)
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:04:34 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <514@vercors.frec.bull.fr> K.Prabhakar@frec.bull.fr writes:
>Does any one have a collection of Thamizh tongue twisters? 
>For starters,
>1. yaar thecha sattai? thaaththa thecha sattai.
>
>2. Thiruvaaroor thEradiyil kallidaRa karadidaRa karadu muradidaRa
>   thEngai nuniyidaRa idaRi vizhaathE kurudaa.
>
>Any more? 
>
>Has anyone tried these after having a large chunk of ice-cream?
>BTW, How does one call them in thamizh? If it does not exist,
>how about naamadakkigaL.
>
>Prabhu
>yAmaRintha mozhigaLilE thamizh mozhi pOl inithAvathu engum kANOm

	One more:

	Ezhaik kizhavan vaazhaip pazhaththiRkaaga paazhum mazhaiyil
	vizhundhu vizhundhu azhudhaan 
M. Sundaramoorthy
sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: Venkatachalam Aruna  (Affable)
Subject: Re: Uniform transliteration in the net : Some suggestions
Reply-To: aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Venkatachalam Aruna)
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:51:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.211811.14203@wuecl.wustl.edu> sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara  
Pandian) writes:
> In article <1992Aug14.204754.11803@samba.oit.unc.edu>  
Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy) writes:
> >In article <9208142003.AA28294@cec1.wustl.edu> sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara  
Pandian) writes:
[All the stuff reg. tranliteration deleted]
> >ittudan Adamiyai maRanduvidumaRu paNivudanum paNbudanum kooRi
> >:-)
> 
>   Do I see a typing error above ?
>   I wish writers could minimize using the :-) symbol for
>  smile, when there is nothing to laugh about.
 
 I think Sthan uses smiley because of the pun intended from "Adami"
which means "manushan" in Hindi. Am I right, Sthan?
> 
> >
> >viDai peRum anban,
> >Sthan.
> >
> >p.p.ku: nAngAvadu 'prolific' tamizh valaaignaraha (andap puLLihaLukkup
> >padil) naan 'Affable' Ahiya aruNa ennum anbarudaiya peyarait 
> >tAzhmaiyudan chamarppikkiREn.
> 
>    I just wrote from my memory prolific writers in this net.
>  I am not sure whether I will be in the top three. It doesn't
>  matter really. `Affable' is a prolific writer, I agree.
>  If Sridhar Venkatraman could spare some time to work on a
>  prolific posters in S.C.T. ( Like what he posted recently for
>  S.C.I. ), this doubt could be resolved.

  I don't want to be either a prolific writer.(My adv. will be
back on Monday). I strongly disagree with the idea of posting
the list of prolific posters in SCT. And we don't want any
"Deb Chat". Do we? We are not in a competition.
Moreover quality matters and quantity doesn't.(A cliche' ?).

Cheers,
Venkat
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: jsg9939@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (J. Sreedhar )
Subject: Re: A THREAT from a boneless tiger in the net
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 04:18:00 GMT

thiyagarajan@mims.enet.dec.com (RT) writes:


>I received the following threat from one spineless tiger in the net who does
>not have guts to post his view in the net and sent me e-mail


>==============================================================================

>From:   "LTTE@surya.waterloo.edu" 19-AUG-1992 12:07:34.52

>LTTE will kill all the Brahmins.


>% ====== Internet headers and postmarks (see DECWRL::GATEWAY.DOC) ======
>% Received: by enet-gw.pa.dec.com; id AA07807; Wed, 19 Aug 92 09:07:27 -0700
>% Received: from surya.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTPid <AA03464>; Wed, 19 Aug 92 12:07:21 -0400
>% Received: from wam.umd.edu by surya.waterloo.edu.bedinet (4.1/SMI-4.1)id AA29998; Wed, 19 Aug 92 12:05:15 EST
>% Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 12:05:00 EST
>% From: LTTE@surya.waterloo.edu
>% Message-Id: <9208191705.AA29998@surya.waterloo.edu.bedinet>
>% Apparently-To: mims::thiyagarajan


This is simply outrageous. And cause for serious concern. 
All right-thinking people should condemn such atrocities.

Has the guy come to waterloo for education or for terrorism?!
If such things continue, we must notify the university and the
police.

-Sreedhar

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: mvishnu@morse.uwaterloo.ca (m vishnu)
Subject: Re: hate tamils-reasons
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 00:08:07 GMT

In article <kat.713802880@sybok> kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi) writes:
>   valai anparkaLE:
>
>          Some noble person hates Tamils for the following reasons:
>
>    1. There is no treatise equal to kuRaL in any Indian
>language.(John Murdoch) Tolkaapiyam still stands as one of the
>oldest and original grammar books in the world.(Kamil Zvelebil) 
>
>   2. They gave refuge to Jews from Israel in AD 68. This is
>engraved in copper in old Tamil vadezhuthu "round letters"
>deeds possessed by Jews and Syrian Christians of Malabar.
>
>  3. They have the most number of temples per square KM in
>the whole of INDIA. They gave one
>of the richest temple to their brothers.
>
> 4. They had Periyaar who valiantly stood against 
>all the machinations of the varNa based
>brahmanism and veda based irrational stupidity 
>in the country.

Couldn't agree with you more.

Existance of an elegant language called Tamil (together with its literature)
is the only stumbling block for some North Indian "scholars" claim that
Indian civilization is a pridominantly/exclusively an Aryan/Sanskritic
civilization.

>
>
>   Let us propose the hate monger for a nobel prize. 
>
>
>kathiravan
>


Meenan Vishnu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: I HATE TAMILS (2)
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:29:34 GMT

   anpar parthasarathi:
                           Well done!
                  
 Keep it up!
       

Kathiravan
From: sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: ilangai pop song
Date: 12 Aug 1992 10:10:57 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


 Venkatachalam Aruna writes :

> I could recollect only one popular pop song.

>  chinna mAmiye, un chella magal engE
>  pallikkuththAn chendrAlO, padikkaththAn chendrAlO
>  ada vAda marumagA, en azhagu manmathA
  ......................................
>   aiyO pAvam avalai ondrum sollathE
   ...................................

>Cheers,
>Venkat
     
    There are many, the most popular one being "Churaangani.."
 which goes like this :
   "churaangani, churaangani
    churaanganikkaa maalu kannaavaa
    maalu maalu maalu churaanganikka maalu
    churaanganikkaa maalu kannaavaa..
                    [ Anyone knows what the above means ? ]

    arisi irukku paruppu irukku aakkaa mudiyilE
    aduppu irukku neruppu irukku chEkka mudiyilE..
      .............................."
  I don't remember the full song and there is also a different
 version of this song, which might not be suitable for all the
 readers of this net. The song I have written is a movie version,
 but the original pop song in Sri-lanka is close to above.
   Other pop song I remember is,
   "kaLLukkadai pakkam pOkaathE.
    un kaalaip pidiththu kenjugiREn.."
                                                  Vengaimarban.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: crathina@ritchie.uwaterloo.ca (C Rathinavelu)
Subject: Tamilnadu Pokkuvaraththuk kazhagangal
Originator: crathina@ritchie.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:36:55 GMT




Subject: tamilnadu pOkkuvaraththuk kazhagangal
Keywords: TPTC,MPTC,CTC,NTC,PTC etc

>Chidamabaram - thanthai periyar pOkkuvaraththuk kazhagam
>Chennai      - pallavan pOkkuvaraththuk kazhagam
>Karaikudi    - maruthu pandiar pOkkuvaraththuk kazhagam
>Madurai      - pAndian pOkkuvaraththuk kazhagam
>Tiruchi      - dheeran chinnamalai pOkkuvaraththuk kazhagam
>Kovai        - cheran pOkkuvaraththuk kazhagam
>Kumbakonam   - chozhan pOkkuvaraththuk kazhagam
>Vellore      - pattukkotai azhagiri pOkkuvaraththuk kazhagam

              The name has been changed to "Thalapathi azhagiri" 
              from "pattukkotai azagiri" (I hope it is on 
              July/August 1990).

>Krishnagiri  - rAni mangammAl pOkkuvaraththuk kazhagam
>Nellai       - kattabomman pOkkuvaraththuk kazhagam
>Nagercoil    - nEsamani pOkkuvaraththuk kazhagam
>Erode        - jeeva pOkkuvaraththuk kazhagam
  
>Cheers,
>Venkat

Anbuden,
C.RATHINAVELU

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: ravi@socrates.umd.edu (Ravi Sinnarajah)
Subject: A Poem from Tamil Diaspora [pulam peyarnthOr ilaakiyam: oru kavithai]
Summary: Literature - Tamil Diaspora [pulam peyarnthOr ilakkiyam - thamizh]
Keywords: poem, literature, Tamil Diaspora, Eelam/ilankai
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 06:58:43 GMT


vaNakkam!

         The following is from the "Tamil Disapora Literature 
(thamizhar pulam peyarnthOr ilakkiyam)".

uNarka (uNarappadum enRa nal_eNNaththudan),
/iravi.

BackGround
     Info.: Womyn of Eelam Tamil diaspora do suffer and feel 
            frustrated in the countries of their refuge due to
            the rules/regulations of that host country and due to
            the saddening events unfolding in their home/mother country.
            They tend to spend their times alone, within the 'four 
            walls(of their dwellings)' with  cooking, children and
            video movies. As a first step to do something within their
            limits, they formed the 'peNkaL santhippuk kuzhu(womyn 
            meeting group)' in 1990, in the city of Hern in Germany.
            In their attempts to bringforth their opinions in 'black
            and white', to expand their doings (rather than limiting 
            within Germany) and with the hope of creating bridges with
            Tamil womyn in other countries, an issue was put forward.
            This poem has been taken from that issue. 
 
PS: This adheres to ADAMI's transliteration menthodology [as usual].
PPS: Pardon my 'weak attempt' of translation [better translation
     conveying the feelings/sense would be appreciated!]

-------------------------------oru kavithai----------------------------

\(TAMIL)

theeyidai marankaL

vilakku emakkup paniyum 
kuLirum!
viRaiththa uLaththil ethuthaan theriyum?

oLirvathaR kathika naaLikaiyuNdu
uruttum emvizhikku ithuvum veLichcham.

sembukkuruthi nembukOludalam,
iduppilum thalaiyilum kudamena sumaikaL.

olliyaakavum uNdi kuRaiththum,
melliya iduppil mEniyE kanavum,

vanappum, aNaippum, vakaiyilaa uzhaippum,
thinamum kaayththidum theeyidai marankaL,

kaayppathanaalO kalleRikinReer?
kaayppathai niRuththavaa? kaNkaLaith thiruppavaa?

mudivukkaaka onRu sErkinROm!
ithuvE enkaL thodakkamumaakalaam!

kaviNYar. vijithaa


\(ROMAN) Translation:
TREES AMONG THE FIRE

Frost and chill do not affect us!
--How can a frozen heart feel [them]?

There is more time for the light [to be lit]
--to our rolling eyes, this also becomes light.

copper [coloured] blood [runs through our] stiff body,
on our hips and [on our] heads, are weights [weighing like 
a vessel full of water] 

lean and [with] caved-in belly,
with the body wieghing [hard] on the fragile waist,

with beauty, with hug, [and] with earnings [of several kinds],
getting dried everyday [as] like the trees among the fire, 

are you throwing stones at us [just] because we are bearing fruits?
should we stop bearing fruits? Or, should we turn [blind] our eyes?

Uniting are we, for [an] end!
--this could [well] be our begining [as well]!

- Poet. Vijhitha

----------------------------muRRum--------------------------------------
From: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: All temples do not have same rules
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:34:40 GMT
Reply-To: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (K.Srinivasan)
Organization: IREQ, Hydro-Quebec, QC, Canada
Originator: srini@acr

From page 126, Abiding Grace, by R.K. Seshadri, Tirupati Tirumalai
Devasthanam, 1988.

     Pancharatra Agama                            Vaikanasa Agama

(xiii) Ordination for worship:              (xiii) Ordination for worship
All are qualified. There are no restri-   Ordination accrding to Vedic rites
ctions based on caste, age, sex or        for the twice born brahmins men
vedic learning. Surrender to god,         only. Temple priests should be
branding with sacred vaishava symbols     from a section of Brahmins following
of wheel and conch, puification of the    the Vaikanasa Tradition only.
mind and good speech and conduct         
are adequate.

      Temples                                        Temples
Srirangam                                 Tirupati (Andhra)
Kancheepuram                              Triplicane (Madras)
TiruveLLoor                               Tiruneer malai
KumbakONam                                Alagar Koil
mElkottai(Karnataka)                      TirukOttiyoor

-----------------------------------------------------------------
This is just to indicate that rules for priesthood are not same
in all temples. Only the famous Vaishnava Temples are listed above.
There are 107 temples total in India (mostly in TN), following these two Agamas
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K. Srinivasan  srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Subject: Re: Sex Ratio, Population growth
Keywords: n
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 01:03:15 GMT

1] Will you two please take this thread out of a.c.k ?
   Thank You.
  
2] a.c.k. was not formed to fight about sex and population ratios or
   relative number of seats. 

3] Stay Cool.
   
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.     |    i sign therefore i am.            Computer Science department.    .
.     =                                      Univ. of Colorado, Boulder.     .
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.kerala
From: sphilip@cs.ulowell.edu (Sheela B. Philip)
Subject: Re: I HATE TAMILS
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:01:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.233840.3014@news.columbia.edu> ss51@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Sundaram Sridharan) writes:
>In article <l8j7hjINN6uo@skat.usc.edu> sramacha@skat.usc.edu (Sudarshan Ramachandran) writes:
>>
>>"I hate Tamils. I *really* *HATE* Tamils"
>>
>>
>>This string is present in the sub-conscious memory locations of most non-Tamilians
>>I've known. Civility prevents these people from expressing the above feeling
>>overtly, but the point is that this feeling _is_ there. Tamils, aka "Madrasis"
>>are, IMHO, the most hated sect/group/community in India. 
>>
>>In the North, we are the objects of ridicule. Comedians in movies imitating us
>>evoke loud guffaws. In Bombay, the hate-tamil-syndrome gave birth to the
>>Shiv Sena (correct me if I'm wrong). In Karnataka, we've fallen in grace. 
>>I remember the days when Kannadigas had a lot of respect for Tamils and things 
>>Tamil. But now, there is open hate. 
>>
>You talk about non-tamils hating tamils; but how about the apathy that exists
>among the tamils themselves towards each other. Of all the ethnic groups, it
>is this group where a Tamil stranger would talk to another in English for
>hours even after knowing that the other person is a Tamil; or he/she would
>simply turn his/her face and walk away the first time.

Sorry, I think the Malayalees take the Gold for "simply" turn his/her
face and walk away the first time.

Ben Philip
bop@swlvx6.msd.ray.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.kerala
From: rajeevc@ifi.uio.no (Rajeev Chugh)
Subject: Re: I HATE TAMILS
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:56:59 GMT
Originator: rajeevc@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no


I DONOT HATE TAMILS.
                     rajeev
From: B.Kumar@cs.ucl.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Curious minds wants to know... tamil..?
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:46:18 GMT

Posted to soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian

Curious mind wants to know - What is the use of creating s.c.t and a.c.t 
if every article is simulatenouly posted on SCI as well :-)?. - Viswas.

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Reply-To: soc.culture.tamil, alt.culture.tamil, soc.culture.indian
From: sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Varna-ashrama dharma in the ancient Tamil civilization
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:59:54 GMT
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.

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From: sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu (M. Sundaramoorthy)
Subject: Re: Dark Future for Professional Services in TN?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:51:10 GMT

In article <Bt717D.Iqo@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (Srinivasan K.) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.124848.17851@engage.pko.dec.com> thiyagarajan@mims.enet.dec.com (RT) writes:
>>
>>I think we should collect a statistics in the net about how many suffered
>>because of this stupid-descriminating policy.
>>
>>What do you think about caste-based promotions in govt offices and
>>institutions?
>>
>>RT
>I think the collection of statistics may not solve the problem. Everyone
>agrees that vast majority of 'forward' class people would have suffered
>due to reservation system. Why not post ideas to 'beat' the system?
>
>When you can not beat them, join them!
>
>Does anybody know how the forwardness will be determined?
>(i) caste of father (ii) caste of mother if different
>(iii) whether or not the person if man had yagnopaveetham (pooNool)
>(iv) whether or not he does Sandhya Vandhanam
>(v) kudumi is no longer a criterion I suppose
>
>KS
From: sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Sorry for posting an article here that belongs to S.C.I.
Date: 16 Aug 1992 13:16:18 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

     Sorry for posting an article here that belongs to S.C.I.
  -------------------------------------------------------------
     I posted an article in this net titled,
   "A reply to Raj Sharma ( OR God and Religions ) "
 that should have been posted in S.C.I.
     It was a silly mistake and I request you to skip the
 article if you see it.             
                                                S.Pandian.
From: rags@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Raghavan Jayaraman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: A Practical Joke
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:41:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Aug20.214130.4641
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <2A93F865.16505@orion.oac.uci.edu> sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu (M. Sundaramoorthy) writes:
>	I don't know who said,
>
>	'maN thOnRi kal thORak kaalaththu vaaLodu
                                          ^^^^^^^^       
>	mun thOnRiya mooththak kudi'
>
>	(Why did they need a sword, if there was no other race then?
>	 to fight among themselves?).
>
>	Any way, to counter this unfounded claim famous Tamil writer
>	Pudhumaip piththan made a joke,
>
>	'ulagaththil thOnRiya mudhal kurangu thamizhk kurangu'

Propably he would have interpreted 'vaal' as tail instead of sword. Then
his retort would be perfect.
Contemporary writers had commented on Pudumaipittan as " ivaridam pudumai
konjam. Pittam adigam".

Flames -feel free!!

>M. Sundaramoorthy
>sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu  
>
>P.S: Please send any flame to me, not Pudhumaip piththan, as he is no more.
>     Any way he paid heavy price for his 'anti-Tamil' stand with a death
>     at young age. He died out of poverty because he wanted to live for
>     Tamil without taking any job, though he had a BA degree as early as 
>     1920s and his father was a revenue official in the Colonial government.
>	(I will try to post an article on him, when possible).

I hope U would include his 'cinema' attempt and its consequence .

raghavan
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