From: chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney)
Subject: Re: "Pro-Lifers"  Are Really Pro-Death
Organization: California State University: Sacramento
Distribution: world 
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 00:42:26 GMT

In article <nqvk0gk@fido.asd.sgi.com> cj@eno.corp.sgi.com (C J Silverio) writes:
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>|jxs52@po.CWRU.Edu (Jonathan Sheir) writes:
>|>I don't understand how these religious zealots who call themselves
>|>"Pro-Life" can do so.  By outlawing abortion, they would be forcing
>|>women back in the alleys, and many would die of these illegal abortions.
>|>A lot of these people are also against the use of fetal tissue for
>|>experimentation to save people's lives.  And many of these people are
>|>against teaching the young about safe sex, and then diseases like AIDS
>|>spread.  These people are obviously Pro-Death.
>|
>orr@newton.mcs.gvsu.edu (Wes Orr {Academic Computing}) writes:
>|Please wake up and smell the coffee.  I haven't seen or heard a significant
>|number of pro-life persons on this newsgroup argue for what you say.  
>
>You aren't reading the same newsgroup I'm reading, in that case.

You're right: they do argue heavily against fetal experimentation. 

>I'll keep count, over the next week or so, of the pro-"lifers"
>who are against medical use of fetal tissue (Kellemeyer and
>Forgach come to mind immediately), and against safe sex education
>(a list of Catholic pro-"lifer" names comes to mind).

Well, I won't be on that list of people opposed to safe sex
education.

>You've posted that you're gay, right, Wes?  You might also be
>interested in looking at the number of homophobes in your
>pro-"life" camp.  I'd be nervous if I were you, to be in the
>company of people who hate me so much.

Well, I dunno. Seeing "queers for life" signs and having met some up
close, can make it virtually impossible even for the die hard
homophobic pro-lifer, to continue hating homosexuals. 

Of course, I already didn't get along with homophobia anymore than
racism, so I _really_ wasn't flabbergasted. 

After all, when homophobia and pregnancy clash and the result is that
a homophobic mother is told of her homosexual fetus, she's got a clash
between her homophobia and her pro-life stance. 

Obviously, the homophobia would have to go if she were really
pro-life. 
Which leads to the conclusion that maybe homophobia has to go, regardless.

I must say I'm a die-hard hetero, but IMO, you can't dislike
homosexuals anymore than you can dislike people of another race; I'm a
die-hard African American because of my genetic heritage.  


About the only people I might be prejudiced against, would be
pro-choicers - men, women, hetero, religious or atheist. That's one
group I would rather not hang around.  

>---
>cj@eno.corp.sgi.com       C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
>"The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye.  The more light you 
>shine on it, the more it will contract." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.


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