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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:25:30 -0700
From:         MGARBER@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU
Subject:      accessing communications of 1992

I would like to access above. keep getting denials and rejections. Mgarber
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 09:01:11 -0200
From:         golang@OPENU.AC.IL
Subject:      a message

Dear netters,
I'm addressing you a note on behalf of a friend of mine:
"Please pay attention to the existence a High - IQ - Society, names:
INTERTEL.
Anyone can apply for a membership in this society if his IQ score, on
a standard supervised IQ - Test, used in his country, is in the top 1%
of the population.
You can send your application to:
Acceptance Committee
P.O.Box 1083
Tulsa, OK  74101
U.S.A.
Thanks for your attention and good luck ! "
Thanks.
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From: marina@tk.mainet.msk.su (Naumenko M.V.)
Subject: To anybody who is interesting in science
Reply-To: marina@tk.mainet.msk.su
Organization: Moscow Aviation Institute, PDTK
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 12:52:40 GMT

          TO  ANYBODY  WHO IS INTERESTING IN SCIENCE
        We apply to everybody who interested in  future  Russian
science; who   would  like  to assist  it  to integrate in World
science society.
        We need information about Funds and other  organizations
who interested in  attraction russian  science organizations  to
research within  the limits active and  plan science proects and
directions of  this  researches   but also about  conditions  of
precipitation  russian scientists   in this proects.  Besides we
would like to know about questions of finance.
        We pin   our hopes on  establishment of interaction  and
development of international cooperation.
        Best regards.                 Marina V.Naumenko



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From: bef@nwu.edu (Bruce Foster)
Subject: Tape Conversion Needed
Originator: bef@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Keywords: NOS, magnetic tape
Reply-To: bef@nwu.edu (Bruce Foster)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:06:56 GMT

I have a NOS-internal format tape with five smallish card-image files that I'd
like converted to ASCII or EBCDIC. Would anyone volunteer to help me out?

Bruce Foster                             708/491-4055
Manager, Consulting & Education          2129 Sheridan Rd
Academic Computing & Network Services    Evanston IL 60208-2850
Northwestern University
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:41:09 -0400
From:         Rich Jones <rich@JULIAN.UWO.CA>
Subject:      tcp/ip whois on nos/ve

has anyone ported/written a whois client (rfc812) for
nos/ve?  how about one that allows an alternate host
(instead of nic.ddn.mil) to be specified?  thanks.

.....rich
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:24:00 EDT
From:         "A. Kaniss" <dashiell@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      basic on cyber systems
Comments: To: cyber-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

I'm getting into working with the basic system if it can be called a system
on the cyber.  We have things set up so that it appears
file reads don't work.
I have a rather large file which is direct access because of its size and
it's a flat file.  The records are variable length records and
are comma delimited.  When nothing is in a field its length is (0).
What I want to do now is to have the basic program count the records
in the file and print out that count to the terminal.
There is a somewhat complete on-line help facility for the basic system
that lists itself as version 3 and there's some section containing
differences between 3.4 and 3.5 in the help
facility.  I think we're running 3.5.
If anybody who reads this net could have a look at the following and comment
I would like to have some working ideas if possible.

10 file #1="ref0"
20 restore #1
30 let j=0
40 if end #1 then 80
50 input #1,r1$,r2$,r3$,r4$,r5$,r6$,r7$,r8$,s1$,s2$,s3$,s4$,s5$,s6$,s7$,s8$
60 let j=j+1
70 goto 40
80 close #1
90 print "total records read was",j
100 end

The file has 16 fields in it and all this gets me is 0 records when I know
the file has over 5,000 records in it.
I've tried the more data and the no data with the same results.

jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:27:09 EDT
From:         Michel Dignard <dignard@JSP.UMONTREAL.CA>
Subject:      Re: Translating CYBER SPSS system files for AIX
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              NELSON" at Jul 22, 92 7:19 pm

Reference: message de DEAN E. NELSON >
 | Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:19:43 GMT
 | From: "DEAN E. NELSON" <den0@NS1.CC.LEHIGH.EDU>
 | Subject:      Translating CYBER SPSS system files for AIX
 | To: Multiple recipients of list SPSSX-L <SPSSX-L@UALTAVM.BITNET>

 | Our new system is an RS-6000 running SPSS version 4 under AIX 3.1.  Without
 | finding another CYBER site (which we are also pursuing as a solution), does
 | anyone have the means to translate these system files to a usable form.

I really suggest that you find a cooperative NOS/VE site.
[I crosspost this answer to the CYBER-L discussion.]

The format of SPSS files is described in the "SPSS Coordinator's Notebook"
for CDC EP/IX, chapters 3-5 :
        - PFF Portable File Routines
        - Commmunication-type PFF Files
   ==>  - SPSS-X System File Description: UNIX Version
          [it is possible there may be some variations for NOS/VE Version]

We do not have a SPSS License for EP/IX anymore, and these chapters are not part
of our current UNIX License Notebook, but probably you could obtain a copy from
SPSS Inc.

--
Michel Dignard                         Dignard@ERE.UMontreal.CA
Services informatiques
Universite de Montreal
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:21:00 PDT
From:         Leonard D Woren <LDW@USCMVSA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: "Multi-volume" SYSRES?

If you don't have a 3390-3, you can't get a current product mix onto
one volume.  So, I'd recommend the following split:
   SYSRES - all target libraries (controlled by SMP)
   DLIBvol - all dist libraries (controlled by SMP)
   othervol - anything not owned by the MVS SMP zones.
You can have two SYSRES and two DLIB vols.  For SYSRES, use indirect
cataloging for everything.  There isn't actually any point in having
two dlib vols, because they're only modified by ACCEPT, and a problem
doesn't make the system non-runnable.  If for some reason you want to
have two dlib vols, be sure to code UNIT and VOLUME on the DDDEFs for
every dataset.  In fact, you need to do this for two SYSRES vols
anyway...

I hope I'm not the only one who remembers when target+dlib+smp(4) fit
on *one* 3350 single.  And it wasn't _that_ long ago that target fit
on a 3380 standard, and dlib fit on a 3380 standard...

/Leonard
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:39:26 EDT
From:         "Martin J. Doyle (215) 752-2296" <MBDMD@ROHVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Informal survey of educational sites

>One of my  managers made a comment  today that got me thinking.  He said that
>our  IBM 3084Q  VM/XA machine  which we  use for  instructional and  academic
>research purposes is horrible  and akin to using an 8088  PC with dual floppy
>drives and no hard  disk. I am wondering if his view is  common. Even when we
>have 60  or 70 active  simultaneous users on  this system, it  still performs
>nicely. Since VM/XA is being replaced by  VM/ESA which doesn't run on a 3084Q
>we will eventually have to upgrade.

Stan,

What's so bad about an 8088 PC with dual floppy drives and no hard disk?
Depending on what you want to do with it, how well it performs, and how
much you paid for it there may be nothing wrong with it.  The same thing
applies to a 3084.  Does the 3084 with VM/XA do everything you want
it to do?  Do you need any features that a 3090 or ES/9000 offer and
are not supported on a 3084?  Do you need any features of VM/ESA?
Are response times and batch processing queues acceptable?  How much
is the Q costing you (make sure you include the costs of maintenance
and subtract residual value from the cost of a new box).

It's really very simple.  Does it do what you want it to do, when you
want it to do it at a reasonable cost.  If it does than there's
nothing wrong with running a Q.  Lots of people still are.

Personally, I'm a big fan of keeping old hardware running as long as it
is cost effective.  Too many people feel that they need to be on the
latest (or at least fairly current) technology and then never
exploit it.  If you're not going to exploit the new technology you
might as well use old technology and pocket the savings.

On a personal note, up until last fall I was running an 8086 at home
with just a 20 meg hard disk.  Pretty whimpy system for a systems
programmer but it did everything I wanted it to do.  When I eventually
had requirements that the poor old 8086 couldn't meet I went out and
bought a 486DX-33 with 16 megs of memory and a 200 meg hard disk.
I didn't go to a 486 until I needed it; the 8086 was just fine for my
previous requirements.  I hope to keep pushing the 486 until long after
the 486 is considered a whimpy system.

Martin J. Doyle
VM Systems Programming Contractor
Rohm and Haas Company
Philadelphia,  Pennsylvania
MBDMD@ROHVM1
(215) 592-6865 (Day)
(215) 752-2296 (Evening)
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:12:24 EDT
From:         "Theresa A. Held" <z8tah@CALVIN.GSFC.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      Re: MVS Allocation Recovery
Comments: To: IBM-MAIN@ricevm1.rice.edu
              Jul 30, 92 11:56:59 pm

If the volume no longer exists and the job is running during prime time
the operators try to contact the programmer and then cancel the job.
If it's during off hours they message the programmer and cancel the job.

Our shop standards are for users to request space with the unit=userda
rather than specific vol requests.  That means any volume request is
considered a user error.
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:44:51 CDT
From:         Christian.J.Reichetzeder@AWIIMC12.IMC.UNIVIE.AC.AT
Subject:      Sharing 3490s, two CPUs - multiple systems

Our and  the Administrative CC's 3480s  shall be replaced with  a shared robot
3490 complex. The admins run MVS/ESA with  CA-1. We have VM/XA with VMTAPE and
MVS and VSE guests w/o tape management systems. Only the 3490s will be shared,
no shared volumes. Also no shared DASD - communication is possible via CTCA.

We will probably  get rid of tapes in  VSE and if possible do  w/o tapemgmt in
the MVS systems.
Has anyone experiences  with a similar configuration? We  need some allocation
management across  our VM  and between  the two CPUs.  Legent's MIM  claims to
satisfy these needs. Comments on how well it works with the mentioned products
would be apprectiated.

Christian
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 12:06:55 EDT
From:         Phil Wilkin <PWILKIN@TRAPPER.BGSU.EDU>
Subject:      PROG476 (DFT buffer error)

We run VTAM on MVS/ESA and NCP on a 3720.  We have a 3274-61C configured
for 16 BSC terminals with 4 currently attached.  Two are 3179s and 2 are
PC 3270s configured as non-SNA DFTs.  The terminals are used for CICS
transactions.  A particularly "big" CICS transaction causes a PROG476 on
the 2 PC 3270s but works on the 3179s.  (Other smaller CICS transactions
work fine on both types of terminals.)  The explanation for PROG476 in
the 3274 CU Desc and Prog's Guide says the DFT's buffer overflowed.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THIS BUFFER PROBLEM.

I looked at PC 3270 config procedure in 3270 CP User's Guide and Ref,
tried different log modes, looked in NCP Resource Def Ref but couldn't
identify a solution.  I found some VTAM buffer keywords and the CICS
system programmer mentioned something about in-bound and out-bound
buffer sizes.  Can anyone tell me where I should be looking?  Thanks.
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 10:31:10 MDT
From:         Gene=Dodd%Programming%InfoSys@VINES.COLOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      re: Automating SNS/FTP

Duane Weaver asked about FTP not taking commands as he expected when
issuing the command from REXX.

We run FTP in batch jobs at night. In those jobs we specify a

//SYSGET  DD   DSN=...

which contain the FTP commands to identify ourselves to our system,
establish a connection with another host, and issue the get or put
commands.

We run FTP as a TSO transaction in batch with the following command.

ACCFTP2 /NOA FIOS

We are at V1.0 of SNS/TCPaccess.

Gene Dodd

Colorado State University
Unversity Services Center
Ft. Collins, CO 80523
(303) 491-1583
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:16:00 PDT
From:         Gregory Plucinski 257239 <GRZES@PLWATU22.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: PROG476 (DFT buffer error)

 What is your emulation program on PC ?  (Manufacturer, version, emulation
                                          board)
 Emulation programs emulate many types of terminals with
 different features.
 try to use FEATURE=QUERYALL in CICS TCT table for this terminals
  don't specify any feature.

Gregory
------------------------------TEXT-OF-YOUR-MAIL--------------------------------

> transactions.  A particularly "big" CICS transaction causes a PROG476 on
> the 2 PC 3270s but works on the 3179s.  (Other smaller CICS transactions
> work fine on both types of terminals.)  The explanation for PROG476 in
> the 3274 CU Desc and Prog's Guide says the DFT's buffer overflowed.
>
> I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THIS BUFFER PROBLEM.
>
> I looked at PC 3270 config procedure in 3270 CP User's Guide and Ref,
> tried different log modes, looked in NCP Resource Def Ref but couldn't
> identify a solution.  I found some VTAM buffer keywords and the CICS
> system programmer mentioned something about in-bound and out-bound
> buffer sizes.  Can anyone tell me where I should be looking?  Thanks.
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:16:59 EDT
From:         Mott Given <ntm1169@DSACG3.DSAC.DLA.MIL>
Subject:      IFASMFDP question
Comments: To: ibm-main@vm1.cc.uakron.edu
Comments: cc: mgiven@dsac.dla.mil

I am using the IBM's IFASMFDP program to dump selected SMF record types from
round tapes to cartridges.   The SMF records are for a system of ours at
another site running MVS/SP.  When I used the SMF records dumped onto the
cartridge as input to a capacity planning software product from BGS Systems
called CAPTURE/MVS, I get error messages saying that some of the SMF records
read were in MVS/XA format.  Is it posssible that the IFASMFDP program
reformatted some of the SMF records, or it is more likely that there is
something wrong with the way that the other site is collecting their SMF
records?

By the way, our current system, on which I am running the IFASMFDP program,
is running MVS/XA.  Do I need an earlier version of the program to properly
dump the MVS/SP records?



Mott Given @ Defense Logistics Agency ,DSAC-TMP, P.O. Box 1605,
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:12:00 EDT
From:         Stan Horwitz <STAN@VM.TEMPLE.EDU>
Subject:      Color graphics solutions

Hello folks;

Our current color  graphics plotter is ancient and no  longer works. As such,
we have a need  here for a new color graphics plotter/printer.  We are in the
market for a printer or plotter that has the following capabilites:

1>  Compatible with output from SAS 6.0x, SPSS, and Displa.
2>  Does color of course
3>  Preferably publication quality output if not too costly.
4>  Low main costs such as using regular Xerox type printer paper
5>  Easy for operators to support
6>  Speaks Postscript if applications require it.
7>  It would be nice if this thing can be put on our local ethernet so
    that both our Unix and CMS users to benefit from it.

Does anyone  know of  any good color  graphics printers with  some or  all of
these features? Which do  you recommend? We do not do a  huge amount of color
output,  I'de guess  maybe  a hundred  or  so pages  a month  as  a max  even
including our Unix people.

We use  VMaccount to  track computer  usage. My  boss thinks  that it  may be
necessary to  charge users for color  printing. How is this  handled at other
IBM sites? We  do not charge for  other IBM services though, but  we do track
them closely.

    Stan Horwitz              |*|  STAN @ VM.TEMPLE.EDU
    IBM Electronic Mail       |*|  My opinions are my own and do not
    Applications Consultant   |*|  necessarily reflect those of my
    Temple University         |*|  employers or anyone else.
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:06:00 EST
From:         919 Jimmy Workman 962-6501 <UWORKJ@UNC.BITNET>
Subject: Re: JES2 shutdown problem

> We are a new MVS site, and are having problems shutting down JES2. We
> are following the procedure IBM suggests in the JES2 command reference.
> We issue a '$p' command, shut down started tasks, and issue a '$p jes2'
> command. We do not get the '$HASP099 ALL AVAILABLE FUNCTIONS COMPLETE'
> message when we finish shutting down the started tasks, and get message
> '$HASP607 JES2 NOT DORMANT - SYSTEM DRAINING' if we try issue the '$p
> jes2' command at that point. A '$d a,job' commands reports that there
> are no batch jobs running. A '$d a,stc' reports that 'SYSLOG' and five
> batch initiators are still running. We can get rid of the batch
> initiators by issuing '$p i...' commands, but this does not allow the
> shutdown to complete.
>
> Our JES2 is Version 4 Release 2. We have five batch initiators. We have
> a non-SNA NJE line connected to a VM system by a 3088. We have two SNA
> RJE lines, which are really connections to JES/328X. We have both
> LOGON(1) and LOGON(2) definitions, but only the second is actually
> started. We have no channel-attached unit record equipment.
>
> What are we doing wrong?

You will need to drain all lines and the logons.
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 02:17:32 EDT
From:         Larry Dusold <LRD@FDACFSAN.BITNET>
Subject:      Seeking REXX Exec to change SECUSER id under VM/ESA 1.1

VM/ESA Users.  We recently converted from VM/SP rel. 5 to VM/ESA 1.1
with ESA feature.  We used to use a REXX exec to change the
SCIF console of our service machines like VTAM from one system programmer
to another with this REXX Exec.  Does anyone have a REXX exec for this under
VM/ESA 1.1 (ESA Feature)?  If you do we would very much be interested in
getting a copy, if thats possible.

Larry Dusold   <E-Mail: lrd@fdacfsan.bitnet>         <IBMMail(US4TN001)>
Chief, Telecommunications & Scientific Computer Support
HHS/FDA/ Center for Food Safety & Applied Nutrition
200 C St. S.W.;  Washington, DC  20204  USA
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:28:00 EST
From:         "Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" <URJLEW@UNC.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Esoteric Device Message in ESA 4.2

> Specifically, if ALTRES (for example) is permanently resident, why
> do the following fail without UNIT=nnnn?
>
> //OLD    DD  DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.LINKLIB,VOL=SER=ALTRES
> //NEW    DD  DISP=(NEW,KEEP),DSN=SYSX.LINKLIB,VOL=SER=ALTRES,
> //           SPACE=...,DCB=...
>
> /Leonard

A naive question, and one that I should be able to resolve by
experiment, except that perhaps qustions would be asked on why
I am experimenting.
In the above situation is
 //OLD    DD  DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SEQUENTIAL.DATASET,VOL=SER=ALTRES
 //NEW    DD  DISP=(NEW,KEEP),DSN=SYSX.SEQUENTIAL.DATASET,
 //           UNIT=TAPE,VOL=SER=ALTRES,LABEL=(1,SL),
 //           DCB=SYS1.SEQUENTIAL.DATASET
 and or
 //OLD    DD  DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SEQUENTIAL.DATASET,VOL=SER=ALTRES
 //NEW    DD  DISP=(NEW,KEEP),DSN=SYS1.SEQUENTIAL.DATASET,
 //           UNIT=TAPE,VOL=SER=ALTRES,LABEL=(1,SL),
 //           DCB=SYS1.SEQUENTIAL.DATASET
 permitted ?
 --Rostyk
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:33:15 IST
From:         Michael Cohen <P85016@BARILVM.BITNET>
Subject:      REXX compiler on MVS/ESA 3.1.3
Comments: To: rexxcomp@ucf1vm.BITNET, rexxlist@dearn.BITNET

  We are planning to install the REXX Compiler under MVS/ESA.
(REXX/370 1.1.0 Compiler)

  Our problem is that we are currently running MVS/ESA 3.1.3 and
the installation manual states that you require MVS/ESA V4 to
run the REXX Compiler.

  Does anyone have the REXX Compiler running under MVS/ESA 3.1.3?

  Thanks,
Michael Cohen       BITNET:   P85016@BARILVM
                    INTERNET: P85016@VM.BIU.AC.IL
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:43:32 EDT
From:         Stan Horwitz <V4039@VM.TEMPLE.EDU>
Subject:      Informal survey of educational sites

Hello folks;

One of my  managers made a comment  today that got me thinking.  He said that
our  IBM 3084Q  VM/XA machine  which we  use for  instructional and  academic
research purposes is horrible  and akin to using an 8088  PC with dual floppy
drives and no hard  disk. I am wondering if his view is  common. Even when we
have 60  or 70 active  simultaneous users on  this system, it  still performs
nicely. Since VM/XA is being replaced by  VM/ESA which doesn't run on a 3084Q
we will eventually have to upgrade. If,  however, there was a choice, I would
prefer not  to upgrade  and apply  the upgrade cost  to salary  increases. :)
What's happening at other colleges  and universities? Which IBM system(s) are
you  using for  your academic  stuff.  How many  accounts are  there on  your
system? How  many simultaneous users use your system during a  typical day? I
may summarize the results if anyone is interested.

I asked  these questions mainly  out of  personal curiosity so  any responses
will be appreciated since  this is not a high priority  item. If you respond,
please do so directly to me to avoid flooding the IBM-MAIN list with unwanted
mail.  Thanks!

Stan Horwitz, Consultant    | Bitnet           | Internet
Temple University           | V4039@TEMPLEVM   | V4039@VM.TEMPLE.EDU
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