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From: ogata@etl.go.jp (Ichiro Ogata)
Subject: Re: fj.life.in-japan (was Re: CFX method)
Followup-To: fj.life.in-japan
Organization: Electrotechnical Lab.
Distribution: fj
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 02:48:29 GMT

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In article <1669@cbsws1.cbs.canon.co.jp> hatano@cbs.canon.co.jp
(Manami Hatano) writes:

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From: hatano@cbs.canon.co.jp (Manami Hatano)
Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
Subject: Re: Usage of fj.life.in-japan
Date: 11 Jan 93 07:03:12 GMT
	<1684@cbsws1.cbs.canon.co.jp> <1993Jan11.045644.26288@etl.go.jp>
Distribution: fj
Organization: Information Systems Technology Development Center, Canon Inc., Tokyo, JAPAN

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In article <1993Jan11.045644.26288@etl.go.jp>
	ogata@etl.go.jp (Ichiro Ogata) writes:
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From: hatano@cbs.canon.co.jp (Manami Hatano)
Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
Subject: Re: Usage of fj.life.in-japan
Date: 12 Jan 93 10:53:50 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Information Systems Technology Development Center, Canon Inc., Tokyo, JAPAN

In article <1itlrpINN6mt@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU>
	takikawm@jade.CS.ORST.EDU (TAKIKAWA MASAMI) writes:
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Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: Let's use Chinese Text (Re: Please STOP using Chinese Text!)
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 12:58:17 GMT

In article <3587@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
>Assuming that all the characters are there, I think what you are
>seeing is the escape codes for JIS encoded kanji and DOS/V runs in
>SHIFT-JIS so you don't get the kanji. 
>
>Here are a couple of samples:
>
>SHIFT-JIS

# I'd rather have emailed, would it have reached you.

Unfortunately, Dave, the SHIFT-JIS codes got completely boggled.
8-bit codes just don't come thru the net.

-YH
From: hatano@cbs.canon.co.jp (Manami Hatano)
Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
Subject: Re: Usage of fj.life.in-japan
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:59:57 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Canon Inc., Tokyo, JAPAN

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In article <1993Jan8.081521.11220@etl.go.jp>
	ogata@etl.go.jp (Ichiro Ogata) writes:
>In article <1673@cbsws1.cbs.canon.co.jp> hatano@cbs.canon.co.jp
>(Manami Hatano) writes:
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Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
From: kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Kuno)
Subject: Re: fj.life.in-japan (was Re: CFX method)
Organization: GSSM Otsuka, Univ. of TSUKUBA, Tokyo, Japan
Distribution: fj
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:48:23 GMT

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From: nanno@cv.sony.co.jp (Shiro MIYAGI)
Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
Subject: Re: Usage of fj.life.in-japan
Date: 11 Jan 93 10:32:32 GMT
	<NANNO.93Jan9130751@moegi.cv.sony.co.jp> <1684@cbsws1.cbs.canon.co.jp>
Distribution: fj
Organization: Sony Corporation, Consumer Video Development Group, Tokyo Japan
In-reply-to: hatano@cbs.canon.co.jp's message of 9 Jan 93 07:30:30 GMT


In article <1684@cbsws1.cbs.canon.co.jp> hatano@cbs.canon.co.jp (Manami Hatano) writes:
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From: inagaki@aclab1.resrch.anritsu.co.jp (Shintaro Inagaki)
Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
Subject: Re: Usage of fj.life.in-japan
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:32:04 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Research Lab., Anritsu Corp., Atsugi-shi, JAPAN
In-reply-to: magnus@jaist-east.ac.jp's message of 11 Jan 93 09:16:52 GMT

In article <MAGNUS.93Jan11181652@is19e0s00.jaist-east.ac.jp> magnus@jaist-east.ac.jp (Magnus Halldorsson) writes:
    >>
    >>[None of this discussion have anything to do with "life in Japan".
    >>If you want to make proposals about changing the group, announce it
    >>here (in English too, preferably) but discuss it in fj.news.group.]
    >>
	I agree with Magnus.
	But for me it is easier to just wait until they get tired to continue;
	the discussion seems another Call-for-Eternal-Discussion to me.
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From: hatano@cbs.canon.co.jp (Manami Hatano)
Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
Subject: Re: Usage of fj.life.in-japan
Date: 8 Jan 93 08:37:08 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Computer & Information Systems Technology Development Center, Canon Inc., Tokyo, JAPAN

In article <1993Jan8.081521.11220@etl.go.jp>
	ogata@etl.go.jp (Ichiro Ogata) writes:
>In article <1673@cbsws1.cbs.canon.co.jp> hatano@cbs.canon.co.jp
>(Manami Hatano) writes:
>>$@>.J}$5$s$O$O$C$-$j$H!V;22C$7$^$9!W$H=q$+$l$^$7$?$h!#3P$($F$^$;$s$+!)(J
>
>$@$9$_$^$;$s!#40A4$KK:$l$F$^$7$?!#(J

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From: nao@jaist-east.ac.jp (Naoki HAMADA)
Subject: Re: English Words in Japanese [JAPANESE]
Reply-To: nao@jaist-east.ac.jp
Organization: ME
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:54:36 GMT

In article <1850@frf.omron.co.jp> $B$K$7$@$$$5$s(B:
> I belive that 'H' is derived from the Japanese word, "HA_REN_CHI".
>$B!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GKNwCQ(B

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From: hatano@cbs.canon.co.jp (Manami Hatano)
Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
Subject: Re: Usage of fj.life.in-japan
Date: 11 Jan 93 06:45:45 GMT
	<1683@cbsws1.cbs.canon.co.jp>
	<1993Jan11.023328.9519@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp>
Distribution: fj
Organization: Information Systems Technology Development Center, Canon Inc., Tokyo, JAPAN

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In article <1993Jan11.023328.9519@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp>
	kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Kuno) writes:
>$@5WLn$G$9!#(J
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>  A. $@H*G@$5$s$,?4G[$7$F$$$k$3$H(J:
>    fj.life.in-japan$@$,HsF|K\8l7wAD3&$H2=$7$F!"HsF|K\8l7w$N?M$?$A(J
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From: ogata@etl.go.jp (Ichiro Ogata)
Subject: Re: Usage of fj.life.in-japan
Organization: Electrotechnical Lab.
Distribution: fj
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:56:05 GMT

In article <1699@cbsws1.cbs.canon.co.jp> hatano@cbs.canon.co.jp
(Manami Hatano) writes:

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From: hatano@cbs.canon.co.jp (Manami Hatano)
Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
Subject: Re: Usage of fj.life.in-japan
Date: 11 Jan 93 08:21:41 GMT
	<1993Jan11.023328.9519@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp>
	<KENJI.93Jan11152342@daemun.rcac.astem.or.jp>
Distribution: fj
Organization: Information Systems Technology Development Center, Canon Inc., Tokyo, JAPAN

In article <KENJI.93Jan11152342@daemun.rcac.astem.or.jp>
	kenji@rcac.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake) writes:
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From: barker@aegis.or.jp (Mike Barker)
Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
Subject: Humor in Japan [ENGLISH]
Date: 11 Jan 93 08:13:24 GMT
Reply-To: barker@aegis.or.jp (Mike Barker)
Distribution: fj
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

Short-timers in Japan often say that you can't joke here, or that the
Japanese have no humor.

I think that it is a good rule for visiting gaijin to avoid jokes, simply
because they don't understand when a joke is appropriate, or what kind
of jokes. 

However, after several years here, I do make jokes, and people
(sometimes) laugh.  People watch and laugh at comedy shows.  There is
humor here.

The real problem is that I'm still not sure when you can tell a joke,
and which ones are funny here.  I do know that making jokes and laughing
are considered part of the gaijin's character.

For example, an American standard ice-breaker for starting speeches or
presentations is a joke.  Every time I've seen someone try that here, it
has been a very bad idea.

Anyway, I'd be interested in your observations about humor in Japan -
jokes, laughter, puns, whatever.  Why is it different than America?  Is
it just language problems, or are there more basic differences that make
jokes a danger for the short-time visitor?

mike
From: nanno@cv.sony.co.jp (Shiro MIYAGI)
Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
Subject: Re: Usage of fj.life.in-japan
Date: 9 Jan 93 04:07:51 GMT
	<1993Jan8.024829.6030@etl.go.jp> <1673@cbsws1.cbs.canon.co.jp>
Distribution: fj
Organization: Sony Corporation, Consumer Video Development Group, Tokyo Japan
In-reply-to: hatano@cbs.canon.co.jp's message of 8 Jan 93 06:36:52 GMT


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In article <1673@cbsws1.cbs.canon.co.jp> hatano@cbs.canon.co.jp (Manami Hatano) writes:
>> fj.misc $@$+$i(J thread $@$r<h$j=P$9$N$OLLE]$G$9!#ITMx1W$G$7$?!#(J
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