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From: steve@agropyron.forests (Steve)
Subject: Re: JUMPING!
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:36:11 GMT
Reply-To: steve@agropyron.forests
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

>	I would add, buy some ankle weights and jump.  Most sporting
>	goods stores have them, usually leather filled with powdered
>	lead.  Strap write on.  Wear them when you run, jump rope
                                                   ^^^^^
>	and bench jump.  That's right, get a bench, getg along side
>	it and jump back and forth across it.  Also, there seems
>	to be correlation between speed and vertical jumping. 
>	When U of Wash recruits football players they are willing
>	to accept vertical jump measurements for 40 yd speed timings.
>	So put on those ankle weights and do some sprinting also.
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^ 
>	I found out about the ankle weights by asking the guys in
>	high school who could slam dunk (one of them was even only
>	5' 7"), and they all recommended ankle weights.  One guy,
>	Sal Johnson was 6'4" and could almost touch the top of
>	the backboard. Sal said he wore his ankle weights all the
>	time . . even to bed! (sleeping that is)
>
>	Mark
>


A word of caution, many up-to-date running coaches would cancel your team insurance
if they saw you running with ankle weights on, especially if you were 
doing sprints with them. The added weight X knee-to-ankle lever arm = knee problems.
This is a very easy way of hyperextending the knee, hence the invention of 
weighted shorts  (seriously) to increase the "resistance" of  a running workout.
try fartlek, plyometrics, running backwards, jumping rope, etc. but beware the ankle
weights while running.

-steve
From: sgrigsby@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: What's an aerobic exercise? What isn't?
Date: 19 Nov 92 12:19:05 EST
Organization: USAF AL/CFH, WPAFB, Dayton, OH

In article <jamesp.722051687@bison>, jamesp@cs.uwa.oz.au (James Pinakis) writes:
> In <1992Nov17.150847.21341@oakhill.sps.mot.com> mack@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Gregg Mack ( Sun )) writes:
> 
>>The physical activity need not be non-stop, but the elevated heart
>>rate must be continued.  A five second rest stop is not long enough
>>for the heart rate to drop out of the target zone.
> 
> What about people in stressful situations whose heart-rates are continuously
> elevated (racing car drivers come to mind).  Are they doing aerobic exercise?
> If not, why?
> 
> james
-- 

No, it's not the same. In aerobic exercise, the heart responds to an increase
in metabolic demand due to an increase load on the muscles. The increased
heart rate serves to circulate blood in order to keep the muscles processing
their fuel efficiently. In stressful situations, the heart responds to 
hormones released by the endocrine glands in order to prepare the body for 
exertion (similar to the old "fight or flight" reaction). Studies have shown
that stress affects the heart much differently than exercise because of the
actions of these hormones. Long term stress is actually harmful to cardiac
tissue while long term aerobic activity is beneficial.

Squib

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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Kill DE FAT!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:16:11 GMT

In article <madkiwi.721938447@camelot> madkiwi@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Eade) writes:
>
>Ok, with Holidays coming up I see this coming from ten miles away.
>I wish to be prepared this year.
>
>What is the quickest, most effective way to lose fat?  I need to get in shape 
>for canoe paddling next year, and I have pounds to drop. With holidays, that's
>like saying I'll swim around the sharks.
>
>Any advice would be great.

Eat whenever you're hungry, but eat little fat.  And don't skip any
meals, particularly breakfast.  Hope this helps your particular
situation.

GMS
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From: mos@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Michael O'Sullivan)
Subject: Re: What's an aerobic exercise? What isn't?
Organization: AOTC - CSSC
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:17:23 GMT

pae@blackcat.stortek.com (Phil Earnhardt) writes:

>exercises which are not included: weight lifting, juggling, racket sports,
>etc.

I would have thought that sports like squash, although having regular
breaks would be aerobic. I would call myself reasonably fit, (I swim 10-12
km) a week, and an hour of squash kills me. 
-- 
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Customised Software		  can only see what remains to be done...
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From: andrea@crispus.camb.inmet.com (Andrea Greenidge)
Subject: INFO: Flex CTS
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:53:44 GMT

Does anyone have any information on the Flex CTS (Cross Training System)?
Info on prices, effectiveness etc would be helpful.


Thanks in advance

-Andrea
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From: ratner@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Dave "Van Damme" Ratner)
Subject: Re: Help. Can't do Incline Press.
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:38:37 GMT

krueger@cs.uwp.edu (Gerald Krueger) writes:

>Up until a few months ago I was completely ignorant to the fact that
>flat bench does not work the entire pectorals equally.  I found this 
>out when I tried to do incline and could do only about 65% of what I
>can do on a flat bench.  Since then I have adjusted my routine to 
>include some incline.  Since I always start using 5 sets of flat bench
>I think my triceps get tired and can't work the incline as hard.  I
>am reluctant to mess with the initial 5 sets of flat bench because
>I have seen steady results.

>What is the best way to get my incline up while still working on 
>the flat?  It is defeating for me to work with weights on the incline
>that I left long ago on the flat.

>Will it take as long for my incline to develop as it did my flat?
>I feel that since the two are closely related it shouldn't take 
>quite as long.

>Currently I work 10-12 sets of a variety of incline/flat exercises, 
>twice a week.

First-off, incline press, in addition to hitting your pecs in a different
way from flat bench, also uses your delts --- maybe you are "disappointed"
with your incline because your delts are weak.  But secondly, I know
of no one whose max on incline press equals their max on flat bench,
probably because incline uses more delt than flat.  [Can anyone on
the net?]  So don't get so disappointed so quickly.

Secondly, if you want to increase your incline press, I would change
your routine so you do it first, when you are fresh, and then
move to flat bench.  I did this about a year ago, and am pleased
with the results.  Of course, you won't be able to do as much
on the flat bench as you used to when you did it first, but just live
with it --- don't worry about how you look or what other people think
of the weight you are doing in the gym.

Dave

-- 
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* *  *    *    * *  / \  ratner@cs.ucla.edu
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From: pae@teal.csn.org (Phil Earnhardt)
Subject: Re: What's an aerobic exercise? What isn't?
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:08:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.160304.1113@oakhill.sps.mot.com> mack@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Gregg Mack ( Sun )) writes:
>jamesp@cs.uwa.oz.au (James Pinakis) writes:
>>What about people in stressful situations whose heart-rates are continuously
>>elevated (racing car drivers come to mind).  Are they doing aerobic exercise?
>>If not, why?
>
>I guess I should have been more explicit when I used the term "elevated
>heart rate".  I was referring to the generally accepted heart rates
>associated with aerobic training.  This is the old formula:
>
>  (220 - your age) X 0.65  <  aerobic training rate  <  (220 - your age) X 0.8
>
>I guess if you ever get that stressed out that we could somehow give you
>credit for "doing your aerobics"!

No. Driving a car at any speed is not "doing your aerobics." This activity
does not involve constant use of the major muscle groups. It's not a
weight-bearing exercise. And there's no guarantees that your pulse rate won't
exceed 80% of your max pulse rate.

It's a fine distinction between what exercises are aerobic and which
ones aren't. And *any* exercise will cease to be aerobic if it's performed at
too low or too high an intensity.

If you're interested in this topic, I'd recommend reading _The New Fit
or Fat_.

One other thing: the "220 - age" formula gives incorrect results for
much of the population. _TNFoF_ talks about current research into this
topic.

--phil
From: shadow@pro-haven.cts.com (Blaine Hufnagle)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: SQUATS -- horrible marks
Date: 21 Nov 1992 12:26:24 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


cannon@superdist.EBay.Sun.COM (Jeff Cannon) writes:

% When I do squats or other leg movements requiring heavy weight on
% my traps. (upper shoulders), etc. , I get several horrible looking marks
% all over this area on my back.  It looks as through I have been scratched
% several times by some kind of animal.  It will usually take about 3 to 4
% days to disappear.  Yes, I do use the pad on the bar or a towel.
% Does anyone know of any tricks to prevent this from happening?  

I get these too, and only recently did it hit me what this is.  Next time you
work legs, notice what kind of shirt you are wearing, be it a tank top or
t-shirt.  

Look closely where the seams in that shirt run across your shoulders.  Do
your leg workout, and then in the morning, look where the bruises are. 
You'll find that they are in the same place as the seams in the shirt were.

yes, these are bruises.  yes, they are caused by the seams in your shirts. 
No, there's nothing you can do about them unless you wear a shirt with the
seams in another place besides going up the shoulders.  A raglan cut
sweatshirt is the only example I can think of.  

I get these.  I snicker about them.  I ignore them.

-blaine
          a.k.a. The Midnight Shadow    |  1979 Chevy Urban Assault Vehicle
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From: A10190@email.mot.com (Alex_Lach)
Subject: Need info on FIRMFLEX
Organization: Motorola
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:25:12 GMT

My sister wants to buy some home workout equipment for her husband for 
Christmas. He does not work out now but wants to work out at home and they are
on a budget so they would rather not spend a lot of money.

My sister saw an ad on TV for "Firmflex" by "Body by Jake" for about $150
(TV order only). "Jake" compares this machine to Soloflex, etc. Does anyone
know about this? Is it a rip-off?

Any information would be appreciated.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: spiegel@sgi417.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Spiegel)
Subject: Re: JUMPING!
Organization: Personal Opinions Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 00:00:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.175556.859@megatek.com> max@megatek.com (Max Elliot) writes:
>From article <1992Nov16.170146.6849@walter.cray.com>, by sonic@bearpit.cray.com (Curtis Swanson):
>> In article <1992Nov14.210502.8888@ac.dal.ca>, whare@ac.dal.ca writes:
>> |>
>> |>	Once again I ask. Any way to increase vertical leap?
>> |>
>> |>Anybody?
>> |>
>> |>AT ALL!!!!!!
>> |>
>> |>Please, I beg of you.
>> |>
>> |>	Stephen, boy who looks at weak legs, Hare.
>>           
>
>  Man!  All this talk of calf-raises and special shoes and squats and
>  etc...
>
>  I'll tell you an amazingly well kept secret on how to jump higher,
>  farther and quicker:
>
>    JUMP.
>
>  Yup. That's it. JUMP. If you want to improve your kill shot in tennis,
>  do you do some specialized curls, and then weighted push-ups? No! You
>  practice the kill shot. If you want to jump higher, do excercises which
>  are essentially jumps! Try doing interval/wind-sprint workouts on a 
>  football field, and mix in some jumps. Start at the goal line and jump
>  on one leg out to the 50 and back on the other leg. You should feel a
>  real burn in your quad and calf. Feel it? good. Now more jumps! Try
>  hopping on both legs (standing broad jump) (ooh, that sounds racy!)
>  out to the 50 and sprint back. Again! etc...
>
	I would add, buy some ankle weights and jump.  Most sporting
	goods stores have them, usually leather filled with powdered
	lead.  Strap write on.  Wear them when you run, jump rope
	and bench jump.  That's right, get a bench, getg along side
	it and jump back and forth across it.  Also, there seems
	to be correlation between speed and vertical jumping. 
	When U of Wash recruits football players they are willing
	to accept vertical jump measurements for 40 yd speed timings.
	So put on those ankle weights and do some sprinting also.
	I found out about the ankle weights by asking the guys in
	high school who could slam dunk (one of them was even only
	5' 7"), and they all recommended ankle weights.  One guy,
	Sal Johnson was 6'4" and could almost touch the top of
	the backboard. Sal said he wore his ankle weights all the
	time . . even to bed! (sleeping that is)

	Mark
From: glex@nitro.cray.com (Jeff Gleixner)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: JUMPING!
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:34:59 GMT
Reply-To: glex@nitro.cray.com (Jeff Gleixner)
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Originator: glex@nitro


In article <1992Nov17.201127.1991@odin.corp.sgi.com>, marksteg@merv.detroit.sgi.com (Mark Stegbauer) writes:
|> Why don't you practice leaping? I could swear one time I saw people holding a "bungy cord" in each hand (they were attached to the floor), grouching down and LEAPING over and over. The cord would pull them back down and they would leap again. I have no id|> ea where I saw this.

How about the story about the US V-ball team?  That was the exercise they
showed.. something about the Russian Leaper...  It was a belt or harness worn
over the shoulders or waist, that allowed the use of the arms...  Never seen
such a device though.. never been to the USSR either.. never will.. ;-)
-- 
glex@nitro.cray.com  === "Difficult tasks are never easy..."
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From: bruceg@Cadence.COM (Bruce Gustifson)
Subject: Re: Health Questions
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:38:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov2.140320.489@hnrc.tufts.edu> loszewski_im@hnrc.tufts.edu writes:
>> If someone is experiencing anxiety, what can be done to help control this.
>> Doctors don't seem to know what the hell they're talking about. Can diet,
>> exercise or vitamins/minerals help?
>

   Everyone experiences a certain level of anxiety in their
everyday lives. This "constant" level of anxiety is not likely
to change. I consider myself maybe a little more anxious than
the average person, and this level of anxiety is known to
remain fairly constant throughout a persons life. Not that
I'm a nervous wreck or anything! I do find that excercise
and sex have the best effect when I do feel anxious. Hope
this helps!
			     -Bruce-

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: max@megatek.com (Max Elliot)
Subject: Re: JUMPING!
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:55:56 GMT

From article <1992Nov16.170146.6849@walter.cray.com>, by sonic@bearpit.cray.com (Curtis Swanson):
> In article <1992Nov14.210502.8888@ac.dal.ca>, whare@ac.dal.ca writes:
> |>
> |>	Once again I ask. Any way to increase vertical leap?
> |>
> |>Anybody?
> |>
> |>AT ALL!!!!!!
> |>
> |>Please, I beg of you.
> |>
> |>	Stephen, boy who looks at weak legs, Hare.
>           

  Man!  All this talk of calf-raises and special shoes and squats and
  etc...

  I'll tell you an amazingly well kept secret on how to jump higher,
  farther and quicker:

    JUMP.

  Yup. That's it. JUMP. If you want to improve your kill shot in tennis,
  do you do some specialized curls, and then weighted push-ups? No! You
  practice the kill shot. If you want to jump higher, do excercises which
  are essentially jumps! Try doing interval/wind-sprint workouts on a 
  football field, and mix in some jumps. Start at the goal line and jump
  on one leg out to the 50 and back on the other leg. You should feel a
  real burn in your quad and calf. Feel it? good. Now more jumps! Try
  hopping on both legs (standing broad jump) (ooh, that sounds racy!)
  out to the 50 and sprint back. Again! etc...

  I know several semi-pro volleyball players who are very concerned 
  with how high they can jump, and for how long they can continue.
  These are the excersises they do. There are more, but you get the 
  idea.

  Cheers,

-Max
From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Kill DE FAT!
Date: 16 Nov 1992 22:47:36 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, sfjr@wam.umd.edu (Steve Russell) says:

>In article <madkiwi.721938447@camelot> madkiwi@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Eade) writes:
>>
>>Ok, with Holidays coming up I see this coming from ten miles away.
>>I wish to be prepared this year.
>>
>>What is the quickest, most effective way to lose fat?  I need to get in shape 
>>for canoe paddling next year, and I have pounds to drop. With holidays, that's
>>like saying I'll swim around the sharks.
>>
>>Any advice would be great.
>>
>>****************************
>>madkiwi@camelot.bradley.edu
>
>Forget about eating low-fat healthy things.  Holiday fare doesnt even 
>approach this.  I usually eat before I go to anyone's home.  I take
>a LITTLE bit of everything, space it strategically on my plate to make
>the plate look full, and be very vocally appreciative of what I take.
>Then I complain how full I am on all that good food to even think
>about dessert:)
>
>

It would also help to go for a *LONG* run a few hours before your holiday 
meals, to churn up the fat burning mechanism.
-- 
    Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., CWRU grad student & roboticist wannabee

   "Bullwinkle, that man's intimidating a referee!"    |    My boss is a 
   "Not very well.  He doesn't look like one at all."  |  Jewish carpenter.
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From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: SQUATS: horrible marks
Keywords: Weightlifting
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:21:30 GMT

cannon@superdist.EBay.Sun.COM (Jeff Cannon) writes:

>When I do squats or other leg movements requiring heavy weight on
>my traps. (upper shoulders), etc. , I get several horrible looking marks
>all over this area on my back.  It looks as through I have been scratched
>several times by some kind of animal.  It will usually take about 3 to 4
>days to disappear.  Yes, I do use the pad on the bar or a towel.
>Does anyone know of any tricks to prevent this from happening?  

I rest the bar in an area just below my traps.  There seems to be a
*groove* that the bar nestles into.  Other than that, you might try both
the pad AND the towel together, or use a hack squat machine.

allen
From: cardanichade@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Cybergenics Experiences???
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:13:53 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Does anybody out there have any experience using Cyubergenics Phase 1 or 
the Total Bodybuilding Kits?

If so, could you please share your experiences with me by e-mailing to 
cardanichade@bvc.edu

Thanx

Chad
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re:Jumping advice aga.
From: pgbroughton@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:53:57 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

Hello, it is P. Gerard again. I want to again reemphasize the importance of
building a strength base before attempting any jumping drills. As someone noted
earlier, the use of ankle weights can hyperextend your knees. It is crucial
that you slowly build up your strength through a weight training program, or
you run the risk of severe injury. Just talk to anyone who has ever blown out a
knee or sprained an ankle. Secondly, I ran across the address for the Strength
Shoe, something I mentioned earlier:

      Strength Footwear Inc.
      2701 Independence St.
      Metairie, Louisiana 70006
      1-800-451-JUMP
      In Louisiana 456-9103
This address is as of 1989. The patent no. in the U.S. is #3.739.500, and in
Canada the patent no. is #979641. Lastly, if you research the book "How to Jump
Higher" by Peterson and Hrodowski(spelling?) you will find a section concerning
the use of the heavy rope, more commonly referred to as the Ultra-rope.

Research the 1988 February edition of the magazine "Volleyball Monthly" and you
will find an article by Karla Wolters concerning the use of the Ultra-rope. I
have three addresses that may be beneficial to you:

Spalding Sport Rope        Spalding Sport Rope       Ultra-Rope
825 Riverside Ave. #2      P.O. Box 8433             Garney Inc.
Paso Robles, CA 93446      Grand Rapids, MI 49518    5025 28th St., S.E.
805-239-7777               1-800-447-7770            Grand Rapids, MI 49512
Fax 805-23-9016                                      616-942-6705 or
                                                     1-800-23-Ultra
James T. Maher, M.D.,P.C., designed the weighted Ultra-rope. He is a physician
in Grand Rapids, MI.. Canada's University of Ottawa, led by experiments
conducted by Professor John Reardon, M.D.,Ph.D., and Sean Egan, M.D., has
researched the heavy rope extensively. Anyone interested in improving their
vertical leap, stamina, and explosive power should take the heavy rope and
Strength Shoe into consideration when designing a workout schedule.

I would appreciate any feedback on the above message or previous messages.

                                Thanks,
                                   P. Gerard
                                   Miami University, OH 
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