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From: crobbins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Chris S. Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: TEXAS vs. ou
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:02:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: ringer.1992Oct9.010208.25380
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

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>Oh, BTW,     TEXAS SUCKS!   :-)
>
>>  John R. Boisseau ("Jay")
>>  Department of Astronomy
>
>    OOOO
>   O    O     =================================== |     Bill Dostalik
>   O  U O  U          Oklahoma Sooners            | dostalik@utdallas.edu
>   O  U O  U  National College Football Champions |            /|\
                                                                 |
                                                                 |
                                                       Obviously, ou didn't
                                                       want you.


                                                      "Oh, yeah?"  "Yeah."
        Let the curse continue!!!   Go Longhorns.
        BTW- Somebody posted that some Longhorns think that
        the ou game is more important than a@m.
        Actually, I hate both schools equally!!!
        If we only win one of those games,  our season is
        only a half success.

        Prediction- a@m will lose one game before turkey day.


                Chris Robbins       WE NEED A FOOTBALL TEAM!!!
                University of Texas- San Antonio
                ROADRUNNER --- 1990-91 TAAC Basketball Champions
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric West)
Subject: Re: WEEKLY TOP 25
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:11:32 GMT

Doug Azzarito writes:
>
>      -----=====< The A.P. Top 25 >=====-----
>
>THIS LAST
>WEEK WEEK  SCHOOL      W L T  Last Week's Results          Next Game
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 8   11  Stanford      5 1 0  WON at UCLA, 19-7            v. Arizona, 10/17
			^^^^^
I can't remember; who beat Stanford this season?  Thanks in advance.

ecw
fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: turtles,cannons,airhorns
From: mzwick@vitro.com (Morris J. Zwick)
Date: 12 Oct 92 08:13:51 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Vitro Corporation

In article <1992Oct6.150627.23535@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>
joconnor@evax12.eng.fsu.edu (JAMES P O) writes:
>how do cannons and turtles go together?
>oh i get it:   back in the old days 
>               seamen would get in thier boats hunting turtles
>               when they saw one they blew thier airhorn and
>               shot 'em with cannons!
>
>before ya know it hawaii will have pots of gold in the endzone!
>
>--->->->--------------G-O------N-O-L-E-S---------------------------------->
>James O'Connor                          North Carolina-vs-FSU
>JOCONNOR@evax.eng.fsu.edu               Oct 10,1992   12:00pm
>"  ... I don't need this shit!"         Cambell Stadium, Tallahassee
>              -kinison
>

Gee people, lighten up! I mean, you won't hear me critizing FSU fans endlessly
moaning that God-awful chant, or the bogus Seminole throwing a flaming spear
into the fifty yard line (I guess flaming spears were more efficient when
hunting; still can't pierce a turtle's shell though) :)
         ___________________________________________________________________
        /  Morris J. Zwick	                 Internet: mzwick@vitro.com
__     /   Vitro Corporation	             Voice:    (301) 231-2784
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Organization: Sophomore, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:33:55 -0400 
From: William Karamo Motley <wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Attn: People in Pitt

It's nice to finally see someone else from CMU subscribed to this bboard!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: chyang@langshan.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: AP Top 25 (Was Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 15:13:32 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
Originator: chyang@langshan.engin.umich.edu


In article <1992Oct13.100717.24368@colorado.edu>, manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:
> In article <1992Oct13.074426.7909@leland.Stanford.EDU> gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Sroka) writes:
> >
> >For all those who seem to think Miami blew out Nebraska in the Orange Bowl
> >last year: I distinctly remember the score being 15-7 with under 3 min. to
> >go in the fourth. Miami scored a late td to put the game away 22-7.
> 
> Another PAC-10 weenie strikes!!!
> 
> Last year in OB, Miami thrashed Nebraska 22-0. I don't think Nebraska was EVER

> 
> Remember, the same Nebraska team scored 21 points against the mighty huskies
> when they played earlier in the season... Nebraska was leading till sometime
> in 4th quarter when U-dub pulled away.
> 
> That game wasn't a blowout for sure...
> 

	That was the 2nd or 3rd game of the season.  How can you tell 
how good a teams is that early?  

> About the mighty Michigan, don't forget that FSU beat them by something
> like 51-24, a true blowout. So Michian wasn't too hot, either.
> 

	I was at that game last year.  FSU did play better than Michigan,
but did not dominate Michigan in the fashion that Washington did.  I
was at the Rose Bowl as well.  

	In the FSU-UM game.  UM made many mistakes and FSU capitolized on
them.  UM stopped themselves and FSU helped.  But in the UW-UM game,
UM had absolutely no chance at all.  UM could not even setup to execute
before Etmman and Co. was in Elvis's and Howard's face.  

	Keith Jackson of ABC also commented referring to the game,
"FSU didn't even make UM look that bad!"   I have the video tape.  

	FSU also ran up the score vs. UM.  While UW put their second and
third string players in and went to a ground game in the middle of 
the third quarter to run out the clock. 

	There has not been a team that dominate since the 1972 USC squad.
I think it will be a while before we see any team like the 91-92' Huskies
again.

> There was some talk about a weenie pac10 coach voting Miami #3 behind 2
> pac 10 teams last year which cost Miami a consensus MNC!!!
> 

	I wonder who that is.  I don't think it was James.  Even if
that coach voted Miami #2 or #1 I don't think Miami would have gotten
a consensus MNC.  I remmemberred that UW was leading by several votes.


> So much for U-dub & pac10 greatness!

	Just look at NFL and count how many PAC-10 players are drafted last
year and how many starting Quarterback (and back up) are from PAC-10 and 
you will get an idea how good PAC-10 is.  

	Some example.  Washington Redskins.  Rypien(Wash St.), Conklin (Wash)

	Dallas, Denver, Houston, New England, LA Raiders, Just to name a few. 
There are more.  And don't forget the rest of the boys on offense and defense.

- Chung Yang

yone who still has a hardcopy of the score and/or game summary, please
> >confirm or correct my memory. 
> >
> >- gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU 
> 
> Njan
From: poore@ds13.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Clemson RUNS
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:43:20 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds13.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Florida State University

In article <1992Oct14.203129.20017@osf.org> ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum) writes:
>In article <1992Oct14.030701.25694@hubcap.clemson.edu>, trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight) writes:
>|> ...
>|> The reason they don't abandon it here is because we have had success
>|> with it...the philosophy is that:  three things can happen when you 
>|> throw the football, and two of them are bad...so why do it if you don't
>|> have to?
>  That's funny, I figure that 3 things can happen when you RUN the football,
>  and two of them are bad:
> 1) gain yardage
> 2) lose yardage
> 3) fumble

That's funny, I figure there are 4 things that can happen when you pass.

1) gain yardage
2) lose yardage
3) fumble
4) interception

Why pass if you don't have to?

In fact, why pass or run if you don't have to?

David Poore
poore@ds13.scri.fsu.edu
From: dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Bill Dostalik)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: UT at Austin seriously???
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:01:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdc.1992Oct16.160121.29509
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center

In article <1992Oct16.150952.2448@ods.com> scott@ods.com (Scott Harper) writes:
>Bill Dostalik (dostalik@utdallas.edu) wrote:
>                        ~~~~~~~~
>: Of course there's football in Texas!  Great High School football.  But all
>: the smart ones come up to Oklahoma to play their college ball.  Guess there
>: haven't been enough smart ones lately to beat the steers.  That'll change.
>
>Of course, there are no computers in Oklahoma, so they all have to dial
>in on their 300bps modems to get net access....
(Well, someone's got to show these yahoos in tejas how to run a machine).
>
>Oh yeah, when exactly *was* the last time the laters beat the cows?
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It was exactly 1988.  And 1987.  And 1986.  And 1985*.  And the rip-off tie
in 1984.

     *National Champions.

>Scott Harper                       Optical Data Systems, Inc.

Bill (still hates tejas) Dostalik

    OOOO      
   O    O     =================================== |       Bill Dostalik
   O  U O  U          Oklahoma Sooners            |   dostalik@utdallas.edu
   O  U O  U  National College Football Champions |     Dept. of Physics    
    OOOO   U     1950 1955 1956 1974 1975 1985    | Univ. of Oklahoma @ Dallas
      U    U  =================================== | 
       UUUU                                       |   "Oh, yeah?"  "Yeah."
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From: fran@cs.washington.edu (Francis Pang)
Subject: Re: AP Top 25 (Was Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!)
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 23:18:05 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.144535.33890@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>In article <W_7-k#_@engin.umich.edu> chyang@langshan.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:
>>
>>> So much for U-dub & pac10 greatness!
>>
>>	Just look at NFL and count how many PAC-10 players are drafted last
>>year and how many starting Quarterback (and back up) are from PAC-10 and 
>>you will get an idea how good PAC-10 is.  
>>
>>	Some example.  Washington Redskins.  Rypien(Wash St.), Conklin (Wash)
>
>Look at home many University of Miami QBs are starting in this league right 
>now.  
>	Bernie Kosar (Cleveland), Vinnie Testeverdy (sp) (Tampa Bay), 
>	Jim Kelly (Buffalo), etc...  That's three of the NFL's top QBs, and
>	they are all from Miami.  
>
>	You could go on by just listing the University of Miami players alone
>	that are playing in the NFL and making an impact... And that isn't 
>	looking at a whole conference.  
>
>	Just how many UW players are "name" players in the NFL right now???
>
>-- 
>David T. Meeks                    ||" We are jigsaw pieces, aligned on the 
>VMark Software, Inc.              ||  perimeter edge, 
>uvmark!davem@merk.com             ||  interlocked through a missing piece"
>davem%uvmark@merk.com             ||" ...This world is totally Fugazi"

           How about this:
              Don James was one of the fine QB from Miami.
              Therefore, Miami should take the credit for what UW Huskies
              has done (good and bad).
From: oconnor@software.org (Jim O'Connor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Obnoxious Maryland TD Celebrations
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:56:26 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Software Productivity Consortium, Herndon, Virginia
Originator: oconnor@software.software.org


In article <1992Oct6.004217.23552@ncsu.edu>, jvbutera@grad01.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera) writes:
> 
> *but it was annoying (as was not having any plastic studium cups to collect).
>                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> It's interesting someone else noticed this.  I have stadium cups from
> EVERY game I've ever been to, probably 30 different cups, BUT MAryland
> NEVER prints stadium cups. Any Terripins know why?> 

Yes. At one time Maryland served drinks in the plastic stadium cups, but it
became common practice for the student section to use the cups as ammunition
in "Cup Wars". In these battles the students would lob the plastic cups at
each other for 5 to 10 minutes at a time (sometimes entire sections would be
involved). Looking on from the other side of the stadium it looked as if a
huge flock of birds was attacking the students. Apparently, too many people
were getting drenched, injured or both. Hence, drinks are now served in the 
lighweight (waxed) paper cups.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: floyd@hubcap.clemson.edu (erik taylor)
Subject: Re: UVA/Clemson & Miami/Penn St
Keywords: hey, wheres this week's poll?
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 23:47:50 GMT

rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:


>UVA vs Clemson: I look for this one to be very similar to UVA's 1990 win
>at home, 20-7. By this I mean that:

>a) UVA will win handily, but not in a rout. For the most part Clemson's D
>will handle the virginia o, but some big plays will occur.

>b) as in 1990, clemson's offense will be too one-sided to be very effective.
>UVA will handle the run pretty well early, which will force clemson to
>try to play catch-up, something they are not good at.

>UVA 28 Clemson 10

>MIAMI vs PENN ST.

>This is a toughie. There is a wide range of things that could happen in
>this game. Miami will be tired and beat up from last week tho, so I have
>to think the most likely scenario is a close, hard-fought PSU win.

>PSU 21 
>Miami 17

>well, these are the two games that have most captured my interest this week,
>and there are my humble predictions for them....

>r

     way to go, Good Call...0-2 for the day....Very Impresive...you
should be in vegas...GO TIGERS!!!!!!
From: saqx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Washington skips Rose?
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:47:40 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

Sorry to ask a boneheaded question, but my knowledge of the workings of the
Bowl games is very limited.  Here's the scenario--Miami and Washington are
undefeated at the end of the regular season, #1 and #2 (any order).  Michigan
is #3, also 11-0 (I think Ohio State will beat them, by the way).  So now the
national title picture is a mess.  If #1 and #3 play in the Rose Bowl, and 
#2 plays a good team elsewhere, we probably get a split vote again (unless
Michigan wins).  Or what if the Rose Bowl features teams #2 and #3?  The
prospects for confusion are there.  So now the question:  is Washington (as
Pac-10 winner) *locked* into the Rose Bowl?  What if, say, the Fiesta comes
along, sweetens the pot with some $$$, and tries to get Washington to forego 
the Rose Bowl to play Miami for the national title?  Any chance?  If the
Huskies aren't locked into the Rose Bowl, any chance that they'd snub it?
Personally, I think that cruddy bowl should be canned anyway.  Taking both
teams from only two conferences is totally bogus.
-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tokuno@carson.u.washington.edu (Ken Tokuno)
Subject: Re: UW-Cal match report
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:24:36 GMT

yang@math.duke.edu (Joe Yang) writes:


>   I have seen different opinions on the net regarding the game on
>Saturday between UW and Cal. From the final score 35-16, it seems to
>be an impressive win (I know, I know, the first half ended 7-7), while
>others seemed to suggest that the Huskies were "lucky" because Cal
>made some stupid mistakes. The game were not carried here on ABC, so
>could some one please write a match report? I believe the game was
>only carried by ABC on West Coast, so I am sure lots of other fans
>would also like to see such a report.  Thanx in advance.

>-- Joe

Sorry this is late.  Gotta work y'know.  I was at the game as Cal fan,
definitely a small minority.  I disagree that Cal made some stupid
mistakes.  The Golden Bears were tough all the way, even after they made
their one mistake in mishandling a kick-off which gave Washington a free
TD and took no time from the clock.  Up to that point, the game was pretty
even and even after that, Cal still had a chance.  At 21-7 they came back
to score a field goal, then exchanged touchdowns to make it 28-16.  Cal
went for the 2-point conversion to try to narrow the difference to a field
goal and a TD.  At this point, you have to give the Huskies some credit. 
They stopped the conversion even after a penalty moved the ball to the 1
yard line.  They also were able to stop the Bears at other times when it
counted.  

	The one "stupid" mistake I saw was when CAl had the ball with
about 2 minutes left, 4th and 9 at around their own 40.  They threw a
short out which gained two yards and set up Washington's last TD; the one
that made the game look like a blow-out.  Also, Russell White did not have
a very good game.  I read afterwards that he had a small injury, but
again, credit the Husky defense.  They have had a tough time against the
run all year, but they were clearly keying on White.  Every time he got
the ball it seemed like half the Washington defense swarmed to stop him.

	Sean Dawkins had a good game, but Jeff Jones missed or was missed
by Barr on more than a couple of passes in key situations.  The most
critical of these was near the end of the first half when he dived for a
ball that was just out of his reach.  If he had caught it in stride it
would have been six and even if he had fallen to catch it, Cal would have
been inside the 5.  Napolean Kauffman had the kind of game I was afraid he
might have.  He is an amazing runner with very shifty moves and incredible
speed.  Reminds me most of Tony Dorsett or Gale Sayers.  The Washington OL
was able to open some good holes, but he really took advantage of them. 
Woe is the Pac-10:  he's only a sophomore.

	Good game, but the score was not representative of how well Cal
played.  If it had stayed 28-16 it would have been better that way and the
score really could easily have been 21-17.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Subject: John Cooper vs. Rivals
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 16 Oct 1992 12:27 EST  

Here's a quick trivia question:

When was the last time a John Cooper-coached team beat their biggest rival?

A related question:  who is Tulsa's biggest rival?

R Dendy
From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Worst Rule in College Football
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:27:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auburn University, AL

In article <1992Oct16.035236.24704@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, sschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Susan E Schudt) writes:
> 
> I think the worst rule is the holding penalty.  It should be a 5 yard penalty 
> and should be called EVERYTIME it is done.  The holding calls and no-calls 
> these days are at the whim of the referee.  Sometimes it's frustrating!
> -- 
>            Susan E. Schudt                    0 0
>      Dept. of Chemical Engineering
>       Goooooooooooooooooo  IRISH!           \_____/
>              Win Twins!

Why not make holding legal?  It would speed up the game (less penalties)
plus there would be more action!

Just a suggestion...

-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@accs.duc.auburn.edu 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
Subject: Re: CU's Kordell Stewart out for four weeks (at least)
Keywords: Koy Detmer, Kordell Stewart
Organization: Buffalo Stampede
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:40:31 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.010727.3433@ncar.ucar.edu> ethan@earl.scd.ucar.edu (Ethan Alpert) writes:
>From a news release provided today at 5pm MDT from the CU athletic office.
>
>Kordell Stewart fractured his left wrist in thursday nights game against MU.
>He will be side lined for four weeks and will miss the Oklahoma, Kansas St 
>Nebraska and Oklahoma State games.

From the 10/11 Denver Post:

The X-rays taken on Friday revealed a fracture of the navicular bone (in
his non-throwing hand).  The injury occurred when Stewart was hit in the
third quarter after completing a pass to WR Michael Westbrook; Stewart
thought he had sprained his thumb, and went on to complete 6 of his
final 12 passes for 103 yards and 2 INTs.

Kordell will be fitted with a cast that will prevent him from receiving
center snaps, and he could return _at_the_earliest_ in 4 to 6 weeks.
(Before badly spraining his foot against Baylor this year, he had never
been injured playing football at any level.)

>This is a most unfortunate spot to lose
>one of the nations top passers. True freshman Koy Detmer will start agains 
>OU on Oct 17ths nationally televised game. Koy Detmer has thrown 5 TDs in 
>two halfs of football.

McCartney hasn't confirmed that Detmer will start, but it's a near
certainty; Duke Tobin would then be the backup, with Vance Joseph, who
is now recovering from a sore shoulder and had planned to redshirt,
behind him.  Tobin and Detmer were 3rd and 4th string through most of
August, until Joseph hurt his shoulder and Stewart got the starting job
by default.
-- 
Kevin Rodgers				kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com
Martin Marietta MS A16401		(303) 790-3971
116 Inverness Dr. East
Englewood CO 80112 USA			GO BUFFS!
From: mjp3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MARGARET J. PETROVICH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: PENN STATE VS. NOTRE DAME TICKETS
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:37:37 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I NEED TWO TICKETS TO THE PENN STATE/NOTRE DAME GAME.  IF YOU HAVE TWO AND ARE
WILLING TO NEGOTIATE RESPOND HERE.  THANKS IN ADVANCE.

MARGARET J. PETROVICH
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