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From: peterco@eff.org (Peter Cohen)
Subject: Re: Lets Screw Apple!!!
Originator: peterco@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:43:34 GMT

Mike Goodglick (mikey@nrc.com) wrote:
: Apple screwed us, how about us screwing them??!
: What I am talking about is MacTCP...The bozo's @ Apple are charging us
:  for the 1.1.1 version, so why doesn't some brilliant hacker out there
: make a control panal
:  that is similar to MacTCP 1.1.1. & is sharware??  This way, there are no
: copywrites
: busted.  If I had enough brains to hack something like this out...you bet
:  would!!!

Let's all voluntarily rewrite the entire O.S. while we're at it, and spend
20 years in Leavenworth, just for the hell of it!<sarcasm off>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: dang@edsi.plexus.COM (Dan Gardner)
Subject: Looking for 'No Frills' BBS program.
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1992 00:39:50 GMT

Is there a simple BBS program available (shareware) that
has a decent uploading and downloading feature?
I have been using White Knight's host mode with some
irritation.

Please help me find a better host program.
Thanks.


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From: jbrowne@zaphod.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Jim Browne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacTCP license fees
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:35:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: zaphod.jbrowne.721578952
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner) writes:

>One might envision a compatible parallel stack, that other apps could use. 
>I'd guess that would be a year or so worth of work for someone who knew
>their stuff, at least for the basic ethernet and localtalk LAPs.  One
>wonders if NCSA might try to adapt the telnet code to this purpose. 
>(Imagine, just a few months ago they were talking about dropping their
>stack entirely.)

After reading the news and these few posts, I think I'll go cry.  We are
planning on dropping our stack.  I guess we'll have to take a second look
at that now.  I know that I don't have the ability at this point in time to
write it.  Perhaps if I had the help of some of the MacTCP gods it would
be possible (Peter, are you listening? ;) )

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: lhp@daimi.aau.dk (Lasse Hiller|e Petersen)
Subject: MacTCP&7.1 - short term solution?
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 19:00:47 GMT

I posted before, requesting info about the incompatibilities between 7.1 and
MacTCP 1.1. It seems that there are (at least) two conflicts.
1. Virtual memory
2. New Appletalk (?)

I've got a Mac IIfx that had MacTCP 1.1 installed under 7.0.1*
I installed 7.1 on top of that, and it works as a charm.

OTOH, A Mac IIcx, with 7.1 installed the same way, but which had the PRAM
zapped, now says:
"Could not initialize hardware level network drivers"
when starting Telnet.

A solution for existing Macs might be to install MacTCP under an old system,
then update with 7.1.

Questions arise:
a) is the above correct, or does MacTCP 1.1 fail under other conditions?
b) would it be possible to somehow use the same solution with new Macs, ie
can new Macs run (even if only badly) with 7.0.x?

and
c) If a lot of people do this, and get bad results, and thus blame Apple,
will Apple then change policy?

Am I the only one suspecting that the lack of explicity from our very kind
Apple people is caused by (apart from above mentioned problems) there are
in fact no significant problems with MacTCP 1.1 and system 7.1?
(All they said was: "7.1 with 1.1 doesn't (read: "doesn't officially") work",
as I perceived it.)

All I can say is: 1.1 still works for me, and has done so about a week now.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: chris@sun-ra.rsip.lsu.edu (Chris Schwehm)
Subject: Mounting NFS drives on a Mac
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-27597]: sun-ra.rsip.lsu.edu
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:19:57 GMT

I am looking for a software package similar to PC-NFS for Macintoshes.
Specifically I need a package that will allow me to mount Sun NFS drives
on the Macintosh and to share a Laserwriter that is on a Sun network.  I 
have a Mac II with an Ethernet card that is connected to the network.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
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From: James.Mitchell@CoE.drexel.edu (James E. Mitchell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Nuntius - Choosing Editor
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:11:28 GMT
Organization: Drexel University
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A727C35867010CE7@n1-12-231-telecommunications-and-networking-group-development.ocs.drexel.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 12 Nov 92 13:16:24 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12

Can anyone tell me how to choose (VantageD as my editor
in Nuntius? Ilve used the select-editor button, but it wonlt 
allow me to see Vantage - though it does show MS word.

Also - Is there a FAQ file for Nuntius somewhere?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Distribution: world
From: Darren_E._Tong@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 00:07:35 EST
Subject: Re: Problem with DoveFax+

I ahve the same setup on a IIsi and it runs OK- I had problems with it not
switching back into the fax/voice mode-there is a unauthorized utility called
faxstate that they (stf technologies)might be able to send to you- Do you use
this at home or work? what do you do there? I knew a friend that used to work
there- Aimee Shifman. Do you know her??? I'm a Graphic Designer and Database
designer here in Boston also-always looking for friends in those "type" of places-any
freelance opportunities??

- BulkRate... and worth every penny!-darren_tong@fourd.com

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: jwells@netcom.com (Jason Paul Wells)
Subject: Re: Internet/FTP questions
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:04:15 GMT

eric@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Eric Lucas) writes:

>Just recently I purchased a fax/modem for my Mac and I was wondering if there
>was any way to get an e-mail address on Internet without having to join
>Compuserve.  I know there are some BBS sites that offer Internet connections,
>but have yet to find any in my area.  I am also interested in finding a site
>which will allow me to FTP.  If anyone can help, I would appreciate it greatly.

>Eric Lucas
>HP SAD/MID
>Rohnert Park, CA

You can get a list of many public-access internet hosts by sending e-mail
to kaminski@netcom.com (say, that's my system!) witht "Send PDIAL" as the
subject field.

Or check with these places: Digital Express Group (301) 220-2020,
   Netcom, Inc. (408) 554-8649, Panix (718) 832-1525, or The World
   (617) 739-0202.

Hope this helps. =)

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From: rjs@citi.umich.edu (Robert J. Skrobola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: SLIP problems
Date: 12 Nov 1992 17:33:46 GMT
Organization: Center for Information Technology Intergration, University of Michigan
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bodwin.citi.umich.edu

In article <mike.721537966@keckiris>, mike@rice.edu (Michael L. Quillin) writes:
|> rjs@citi.umich.edu (Robert J. Skrobola) writes:
|> 
|> >I've got VT adminslip set up with 0.0.0.0 for a
|> >gateway and ...
|> 
|> There's your problem.  Find out the IP address of your nameserver/gateway
|> from your system administrator and plug that in instead of 0.0.0.0.  Use
|> the same number for the nameserver and gateway (you will have to temporarily
|> put mactcp on manual addressing to change one of these).  After that, let
|> it rip.
|> 
|> Mike
I did this with no luck. When I try to reach directly to IP address, it
says host not responding (I know the host(s) are up), and when I use
a domain name it can't resolve it. Thanks for your help anyway Mike.
		Rob

PS I realize this might be more appropriately emailed, but I wanted to 
see if anyone else had an idea. Sorry for semi breach of netiquette.


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From: hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu (Eiji Hirai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Good book on TCP/IP / Internet wanted
Date: 13 Nov 92 23:53:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.8N5SBGQD
Organization: Information Services, Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA

sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner) writes:
: "Whole Earth Guide to the Internet" or something like that

_The Whole Internet Catalog & Users' Guide_, Ed Krol (O'Reilly & Associates,
1992; ISBN 1-56592-025-2) $24.95

_Zen and the Art of the Internet_, Brendan Kehoe (Prentice Hall, 1992; ISBN
0-13-010778-6) $22.00

Brendan Kehoe is brendan@cygnus.com, formerly brendan@cs.widener.edu.

I've flipped through both and they're both recommendable.  Since Steve says
he knew Ed, I'll say I knew Brendan when he was still in the Philadelphia
area! :-) Brendan knows his stuff, is truly interested in getting folks to
use the Internet, and is a cool dude to boot.

You can order these via email from Quantum Books, quanbook@world.std.com.
I highly recommend these folks too.  You can get more info about them via
ftp from world.std.com:/Quantum/.

I don't work for them - I'm just a satisfied customer.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: mike@rice.edu (Michael L. Quillin)
Subject: Re: FaxSTF for sale
Organization: Rice University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:08:27 GMT

FaxSTF has been sold.

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From: cshotton@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Chuck Shotton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacTCP license fees & Eudora
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:11:54 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Academic Computing

In article <1dq4g0INN7dn@morrow.stanford.edu>, pradhan@camis.stanford.edu
(Malcolm Pradhan) wrote:
> 
> In article <sdorner-101192120156@0.0.0.0> Steve Dorner,
> sdorner@qualcomm.com writes:
> >Rumor has it Apple has decided to take the price of MacTCP through the
> >roof.  I'm told that an internal use license for corporations has gone
> from
> >$2500 *one-time* to $5000 *annually*.  Seemingly Apple would just as soon
> >that no low-cost MacTCP software exist. Typical Apple policy--Free Bad,
> >Expensive Good.
> 

>  The reason seems to be the same reason for the System 7.1 upgrade cost -
> the splitting of Apple into sections which must return a profit. The
> Enterprise System Division are responsible for MacTCP so I guess they
> have to recoup development costs, just like the System Software division.
> 

So, what happens if these sections don't return a profit? Is Apple just
going to drop the products that aren't performing? At this point, I have to
believe that Apple management is totally out of touch and out of control.

It sounds like it's time for some enterprising band of developers to get
together and write a freeware TCP/IP driver for the Mac that is compatible
with MacTCP. Just put Apple out of the TCP/IP business if they can't do it
right.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: neilg@fraser.sfu.ca (Neil K. Guy)
Subject: Re: Mac 512e and StyleWriter/DeskWriter?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 04:22:35 GMT

 Thanks to the people who answered my query re: hooking up a
StyleWriter or DeskWriter to a Mac 512e. Unfortunately I lost all my
recent mail in an inexplicable accident, so I couldn't reply.

 Apparently you can't really use either printer with a 512e unless you
add more memory to the thing with a NewBridge or Dove (aren't they
having major financial problems?) board. Oh, well.

 Thanks also to all the people who didn't flame me for posting this to
the wrong group. I meant to post it to comp.sys.mac.hardware but it
ended up in .comm by mistake. Oops.

 - Neil K. (n_k_guy@sfu.ca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: wyao@.oracle.com (William Yao)
Subject: Installing modem in Powerbook
Organization: Oracle Corp., Redwood Shores CA
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:54:15 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

I recently tried installing a modem in my Powerbook (I know I know--voids
the warranty and all that) and I ended up with a piece which doesn't fit
back into the powerbook...

It's this silver tin-like cover for the space where the modem now sits (where
nothing was sitting before).  There just isn't enough room to get it back in 
around the modem.

Has anyone else had this problem?

Is the cover really necessary?

Please email replies to wyao@us.oracle.com, or post if the mail gets bounced
(as apparently it sometimes does).

Thanks!

Bill Yao
Oracle Federal Consulting
From: yan@caldwr.water.ca.gov (Jason Yan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: EtherTalk info needed
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:53:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Calif. Dept. of Water Resources, Sac.

Could someone please send me some FAQ info on EtherTalk and LocalTalk?
Thanks.  Sorry about wasting bandwidth.

						Jason Yan
						yan@water.ca.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: arseno@phy.ulaval.ca
Subject: Re: Network software upgrade for LC
Summary: Asante Ethernet software
Reply-To: arseno@phy.ulaval.ca
Organization: Laval University
Distribution: all
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:27:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.165004.24858@cerberus.ulaval.ca> arseno@phy.ulaval.ca
writes:
> I tried upgrading my LC with the new Apple network software. I have an Asante
>Ethernet MacCon card. After the upgrade, I couldn't choose the Ethertalk icon,
>which kept switching back to Appletalk with an error message. I am running
>MacTCP 1.1. I then tried to put back the old icons from a system backup into
my
>system, but I couldn't get the network to run until I threw away my whole
>system file and put back the old one from a backup (losing some recent
>information in the process, including my Eudora mailboxes that I had forgotten
>to keep).
>
I have now solved the problem, and here is the solution for Mac users of Asante
Ethernet cards: do not use Apple network upgrades, but ftp Asante's installer
version 4.1 from 192.108.250.1 (host ASANTE.COM) using login and password
"asante" (I was unable to reach this address), or 130.111.114.17
(THRUSH.UMESVE.MAINE.EDU), login anonymous. The software in the latter location
where I  got it is in the "pub" directory. After installation, everything works
beautifully and the minor bugs with Eudora have disappeared.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: areich@andy.bgsu.edu (Adam Reich)
Subject:  Fetch 2.1
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Bowling Green State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:01:07 GMT

I have tried to use Fetch 2.1 in the computer lab at school but it fails to
connect.  We are connected to the Internet through our lab, but the program
wouldn't even open if we weren't.  I would really like to use this program
but it will not connect anywhere. I would appreciate any help or advice you
can give.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: jcmpbell@admiral.uucp (Jason Campbell)
Subject: Hermes 2.0 And The Supra 14.4 v.32bis Modem
Reply-To: jcmpbell@admiral.uucp (Jason Campbell)
Organization: The Grid/Waffle BBS, 203-661-2873, -1279, -0450, -2967
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:02:23 GMT

Someone asked if Hermes was compat. with the Supra 14.4 v.32bis, yes it 
is, I run it and it seems to work fine, just call Olympus to DL the 
drivers and use ResEdit to copy them into Hermes 2.0 application.
 
Also, yes, I got my Supra on the SysOp deal, v.32bis for $275 or so, call 
them on their 1-800 sales line...
 
ROM upgrades came out a while ago and I got them quickly, those on the 
SysOp program get the optional $20 CallerID upgrade free.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: michel@cst02.segin.com (Michel Pollet)
Subject: SCSI/Ethernet for powerbook.. prices ?
Reply-To: michel%cst02.segin.com (Michel Pollet)
Organization: Segin, Groupe Axime
Date:  6 Nov 92 09:43:45 GMT

What are the different vendors & prices for that product ?


Thanks, Michel
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: bschmidt@bnr.ca (Ben Schmidt)
Subject: Re: Ethernet and LocalTalk
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:16:01 GMT

In article <BxAw8A.KL3@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete
Resnick) wrote:
> 
> ziesman@uswest.com (Craig Ziesman) writes:
> 
> >We have several Macs connected to our network via Ethernet.  They still 
> >have their LocalTalk connectors plugged in as well.  We have seen some 
> >performance problems with printing and database access.  The systems 
> >support people here claim that when a Mac is connected to both Ethernet 
> >and LocalTalk that the Mac will use both at the same time!  They say that 
> >this is the reason for the performance problems.  Is this possible, or 
> >even probable?  I didn't think the Network control panel could lie like 
> >that!!!
> 
> Go tell your systems support people that they are utterly confused.
> Macintoshes cannot use both network ports unless they are running
> router software like AppleTalk Internet Router or Liason. Unless you
> are a router, you cannot have more than one network address in
> AppleTalk land. Period.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

A wonderful turn of phrase:  AppleTalk Land  :^)

Craig's systems support people *are* likely confused.  :^)  But there's a
remote possibility that the "database access" referred to by Craig is not
AppleTalk based and hence Craig may not entirely be operating in "AppleTalk

land".  For example, it's possible to configure a Mac to use it's LocalTalk
port for AppleTalk protocols while simultaneously using it's Ethernet port
for TCP/IP protocols. 

Ben Schmidt, P.Eng.      Bell-Northern Research,  /* standard              
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From: rick@ut-emx.uucp (Rick Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Make NFS/Share load with macSLIP ?
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:55:23 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas

In article <michel.720902438@cst02>, michel@cst02.segin.com (Michel Pollet) writes:
> I have my powerbook with NFS/Share (1.1.2 (hope it's the latest)) installed
> and MacSLIP 1.0 also. I'd like to use NFS/Share with SLIP but can't because
> MacSLIP does not init itself at boot time but only when I click the 'connect'
> button in the CP. So NFS/Share won't load either. I'd like to let NFS
> load even if there no low level driver for mactcp.

The next version of MacSLIP, due out in a month or so, will support
connecting at INIT time, so the above will be possible.

Rick Watson
Hyde Park Software
info@hydepark.com
From: cad0410@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Cecelia A. Dorn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Appleshare network slowdown
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:44:07 GMT
Reply-To: cad0410@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

We have a user center utilized by faculty and students offering
an Appletalk network of 15 macs (overseen by a MacII fileserver: 40M
hard drive--approx. 12M free).  Recently we have noticed a slow down
in network performance and I was wondering if anyone out there has any
suggestions on diagnostics/optimizations/etc that can be done.  I'm
particularly interested in procedures and if necessary, in software
(product names please) that we can purchase to help evaluate the
net's performance.  Do you think this problem could be as simple
as optimizing the server's hard drive?  (Incidentally this lab has
been in operation for approximately 2 years with no similar problems).

Any help ASAP greatly appreciated,
Cea Dorn
From: 00fwstoner@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: HELP
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:32:30 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's


	I have a Mac plus (kinda old) that has been upgraded to 4MB RAM. I
also have a 50 MB harddrive.  I've recently been hearing a little bit about a
new Mac called VX.  This computer sounds amazing.......

What I would like to know is what in the world would an individual do with
such power....To me my little ole Mac plus can do some awesome things but with
a VX, with who knows how many MB's of RAM, what can be done.   

Can some one reply and give me some opinions on what type of applications you
would run on a VX or similiar type of computer.....I'm just kinda curious as to 
the potential of such a thing..... 

I would greatly appreciate any and every response....
                           

                                                        Thanks
							Fred Stoner
							@BSU