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From: ismith@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Chris Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Jonathan David Brown convicted
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:41:50 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <drice.718497908@ponder> drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Keith Rice) writes:
>Just read this today.  I figured you all would want to know (if you
>don't already).
>----------------------------
>
>Taken from Dallas/Fort Worth Heritage newspaper...
>
>NASHVILLE, Tenn. (EP) -- Long-time Christian music producer Jonathan
>David Brown was convicted Aug. 20 of helping two men avoid prosecution
>for a 1990 drive-by shooting of a synagogue, and of two counts of
>perjury to a federal grand jury.  CCM Update reported that Brown was


WOW!!

>Evidence confiscated from Brown's home included signed membership
>cards for the Ku Klux Klan and Aryan Nations, and a picture of Brown
>saluting a Nazi flag. 

As an African American who likes many of the artist he has produced,
Double WOW!!


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Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: euahbg@eua.ericsson.se (Hans Bengtsson)
Subject: Music about heaven
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:22:44 GMT

Hello everyone,

I'm having a radio program in a couple of weeks and this
program will be about HEAVEN. About what I think of
heaven, what others (christians as well as others) think
and what the Bible says about heaven. Now I need some
good music to balance my usually boring babble. I have
already chosen to play "Heaven is a real place" by 
Charlie Peacock and "heaven" by the Allies. But I need
just a few more songs. Songs about how it will be there
and songs about longing to get there. And I don't mind 
something hard&heavy. Well, I know that the gathered
experience among you rmc-readers will give me lots of
good ideas. 
And for You living in the south-east part of Stockholm,
listen to 101.1MHz 4/11, 22.30!

Yours,
Hans Bengtsson
Ellemtel Telecommunication Systems Laboratories
Hans.Bengtsson@eua.ericsson.se

Gal 6:9
From: st0o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Steven Timm)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Is Huff Related to Huff? (was Re: Giant)
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:38:31 GMT
Organization: Doctoral student, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I'm confused about the answer that was given about the relationship
between Giant and David And the Giants.

One thing clear:  one of the members of David and the Giants is Kellye's
father.

But I thought Giant was just the new name for David and the Giants.  
Not true?

And do I also read the message that Dann Huff of Whiteheart and whatever
Huff's are in David and the Giants are just totally different people?

And are any of them related to Ronn Huff, the hired-gun arranger of 
classical strings on most CCM albums?

Steve Timm
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: chaplin@keinstr.uucp (Roger Chaplin)
Subject: Re: Music about heaven
Organization: Keithley Instruments, Cleveland, Ohio
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:23:46 GMT

I've read the five responses which my news reader has managed to snag
from the electron stream so far, and none of them mention these songs
about heaven:

"Over the Horizon"        4 Him              Face The Nation
"Heaven"                  Steve Green        We Believe

-- 
Roger Chaplin / chaplin@keinstr.uucp / CI$: 76307,3506
"For the lines are long and the fighting is strong and they're breakin'
down the distance between right and wrong."
                        - Bob Dylan, "Ring Them Bells"
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: musgse@meaddata.com (Steve Musgrave)
Subject: Kelly Huff and Kim Boyce
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:51:47 GMT
Distribution: usa

I was wondering if anyone could give me a quick review of their new albums.

I've heard (on the radio) and liked songs from both of their albums, BUT ...
I'm not a big fan of blatant pop music and since I've only heard one song
from both, I don't know what their style is.

Comparing their music styles to other performers would be the most informative
(i.e. - Susan Ashton, Debbie Gibson, current or 1980s Amy Grant)
along with what you personally thought of the album.

Thanks!
--
*       Steve Musgrave @ Mead Data Central ( Dayton, OH )       *
* I want to live as an honest man, to get all I deserve and to  *
* give all I can, and to love a young woman I don't understand. *
*                - Suzzanne Vega's "The Queen and the Soldier"  *
From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: TANGENT: Christian groups on the net
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:09:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Oct9.154838.4511@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jlaplant@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John R Laplante) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.122813.11553@sfu.ca> guay@fraser.sfu.ca (Tim Guay) writes:

>>For those who don't know, the moderator of soc.religion.christian does things
>>like embed his own unasked for commentry in other people's postings, as well
>>as censor postings. 

>  Ain't that the truth! I've submitted two posts there -- both of which
>  I thought were legitimate -- and both were rejected. The embedded
>  comments are also a nuisance.

I agree.  I actually wrote the moderator and told him that although his
comments were thoughtful and a good addition to the group, his habit of
inserting them into people's posts had the effect of dampening discussion
and squelching response.  He replied that that is precisely what he is
trying to do, due to the large volume of traffic in the group. 
Personally, I find it an oppressive degree of moderation.  

>  There are some listserv groups -- IVCF-L and CHRISTIA. 
>  I've unsubscribed from CHRISTIA -- too much traffic, and not nearly 
>  enough "intellectual" for my tastes.

Christia is also available as a newsgroup, which is a nice way to keep
your mailbox from filling up.  It's address is bit.listserv.christia.  The
response time slows down a bit when you operate this way, but that's not
always a bad thing.


-- 
The trick of reason is to get the imagination to seize the actual world --
if only from time to time.     -- Annie Dillard, "An American Childhood"
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Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink)
Subject: Michael Card lyrics available -- Way of Wisdom & Arise My Love
Organization: Turkey Hall
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:34:53 GMT


Just a tiny note to say that the lyrics to "The Way of Wisdom" and "Arise
My Love" -- two of Michael Card's songs -- have been uploaded to cs.uwp.edu
in the /pub/music/lyrics/files/card.michael directory about a week ago.
-- 
Samuel Stoddard  a.k.a.  The Rink  a.k.a.  Swan  -----  ss1@kepler.unh.edu
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Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and      -------------
believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall   | John 5:24 |
not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.   -------------
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From: cwf50862@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chippen )
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Christmas Albums (was Re: Home For Christmas)
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:58:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw2suB.6uM
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

the coolest part about christmas music to me is it's consistancy.  If something
ain't broke don't fixit. 

but some really cool christmas songs are Larry Norman's "Christmas Time" 
it appears on One Bad Pig's Swine Flew.  It has a great message.

but more traditionally speaking my favorite christmas album is by 
Micheal W. Smith.  It is incredible.

###############################################################################
Chip Fay                                    In a dream, in a vision of the
cwf50862@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu         **        night, when deep sleep falls on men
				******      as they slumber in their beds, he 
				******      may speak in their ears and terrify
			          **	    them with warnings, to turn man 
			          **	    from wrongdoing and keep him from
					    pride.       Job 33:15-17
###############################################################################
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: mcr@meaddata.com (Mary Ries)
Subject: Re: REVIEW: Steven Curtis Chapman's Great Adventure Tour
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:21:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.145349.12419@viewlogic.com>, tim@kudzu.viewlogic.com (Tim Foster) writes:
|> 
|> Out of the Grey - A very short set of only 4 songs, 3 off of their
|> first album (Wishes, Write My Life, and He Is Not Silent), and one
|> off their new album (yay!) which is due out after Christmas.  They
|> did all their songs with only Scott Dente on the guitar.  He is an
|> excellent player, but it just isn't as effective as with a band.
|> Her voice is excellent, but it suffered from the mic problems.  The
|> best song (IMHO) was He Is Not Silent, which has a really powerful
|> message.  It is really unfortunate that they did not get to play
|> with a full band.

Awww, really??  My husband and I LOVED hearing them without the band!
We thought it was the most awesome and powerful performance we've ever
seen out of two people with one instrument!! (no tapes or background)

We saw them with SCC on last year's tour, and we never heard Out of
the Grey except for "Wishes" on the radio.  We loved them right away
and Matt was actually disappointed when we bought the tape and they
had a band playing with them!  I'm serious!  The way that Scott banged
(I mean BANGED!) on his guitar while strumming to provide the strong
beat was just riveting!!

I'm glad they are playing that way again because its was unusual,
especially to have such a powerful performance from a single
guitarist...  that Scott must have some kind of energy!

I can't wait to see them again!

_______________________________________________________________________
Mary Ries            | Die, v.:                     | Software Engineer
mcr@meaddata.com     |    To stop sinning suddenly. | Mead Data Central
..uunet!meaddata!mcr |           -- Elbert Hubbard  | Dayton, Ohio
From: petra@wpi.WPI.EDU (Jeanne Allan Sawtelle)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Card/Keaggy review & New Album
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:01:17 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <1992Oct11.214103.12603@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> noel@crs.cl.msu.edu writes:
>First, Keaggy will have a new album out in February, I believe he said it
>will be called _Crimson and Blue_.  Boy, am I looking forward to that!

Oooohhh!  But that usually means it'll be out by April, maybe... ;)

>Anyway, my ticket was paid for because I saw Keaggy's whole set.  What
>can I say?  That man is awesome!  I'm a guitarist and I wanted to go home
>afterwards and destroy my guitar before I commited sacrilege by "playing"
>it.  He is so clean and so focused it's unbelievable.  I talked to someone
>else who had seen Keaggy before and was told that Phil was actually having
>an off night and was only "phenomenal".  I would hate to see him when he is
>"on".  He used a real-time tracker to keep rhythm tracks going during some
>of his solos, along with the usual effects, all utilized to perfection, 
>IMHO.
>
>BTW, if anyone knows if he'll be around the mid-Michigan area by himself
>any time, let me know.  I can't imagine what 2 hours of just Phil would
>be like.
>
Does anyone have a tour schedule for Phil Keaggy?  I would love to see him
if I could.   Anyone?  Please?


		Jeanne



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Jeanne Sawtelle, struggling EE | "EE's are intelligent, really.  They're just
petra@wpi.wpi.edu              | plain sadists, that's all" -Prof. Mary Hardell
Worcester Polytechnic Institute|                             CS department, WPI
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: hill@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Hill)
Subject: Re: Music about heaven
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:09:13 GMT

Aaaarrgh!  Drat!  Somebody mentioned 2nd Chapter of Acts' "Mansion Builder".
How could I have forgotten that?!

Also, there's "The Last Graduation" by Bryan Duncan and "Invitation" by
Whiteheart (one of my ex-favorite songs!  (hmmm... do I notice a trend
here?  :^)  )).

In Christ,

			--Michael

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Michael Hill   <><  Isaiah 9:6 | "Give me one more chance to do things right/
hill@spot.Colorado.EDU         |  Just one more chance, I'll follow the light/
                               |  But there's no second chances, the Host of
University of Colorado@Boulder |  heaven cried/ No second chances, you listened
$ mv net.flames /dev/null      |  to lies!"   --Whitecross, "No Second Chances"
-------------------------My boss is a Jewish carpenter!------------------------
Did you ever notice that everybody in favor of abortion has already been born?!
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: Phil.Powell@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Phil Powell)
Subject: Re: Jonathan David Brown convicted
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 03:43:40 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.200751.9688@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> alan@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Alan S. Mazer) writes:
>In article <drice.718497908@ponder> drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Keith Rice) writes:
>>Brown has produced albums for Twila Paris,
>>Petra, the Gaither Trio, and Bob Bennett, and recently released an
>>album of inspirational music.
>
>Brown doesn't bother me so much (I'm coming to expect things like this) but
>what does this say about the artists?  Wouldn't you think they'd know about
>his feelings?  I hope they don't agree...
>-- 

I doubt they even knew what was going on.. people can hide their true
feelings about others real well... it probably would've surfaced if they
asked him if he would produce an album by Larnelle Harris, Al Green or
Deniece Williams...


> 
>-- Alan                        # Mountain Dew and doughnuts...
>   ..!ames!elroy!alan          # because breakfast is the most important meal
>   alan@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov     # of the day.
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

AMEN! :-)

Phil


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Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: guay@fraser.sfu.ca (Tim Guay)
Subject: Re: Jonathan David Brown convicted
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 12:28:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.190633.23574@keinstr.uucp> chaplin@keinstr.uucp (Roger Chaplin) writes:
>CARL SEILER (st1t0@elroy.uh.edu) wrote:
>: Regardless, as a sheltered anglo-American, I am interested in carrying on 
>: conversations with Christians of other etnic backgrounds.  It has
>: 
>: been said that Sunday is the most segregated day in America, and I
>: wondered if you would care to share your feelings on the subject.
>
>I would be interested in seeing such a discussion, but not in this
>newsgroup.  Perhaps soc.religion.christian.
>
No, soc.religion.christian is too oppressively moderated... we really need
an unmoderated group for this... maybe we should create an alt.christian.

For those who don't know, the moderator of soc.religion.christian does things
like embed his own unasked for commentry in other people's postings, as well
as censor postings. 

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  Ta Ta For Now      | Beware of the demon Wizzy Wig, the father of 
        Tim          | typographic lies... 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Giant
From: consult5@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:04:29 -0600
Reply-To: consult5@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

>
>Afraid I haven't been able to find a copy of their second release. ('Time
>  to Burn'?)
>There were a couple of reviews of it in r.m.c many months ago.
>
>
>Andrew
>asm@ee.mu.oz.au
>=B>

I would like to let you know that the giant album time to burn is in my
collection of tapes.  I became a giant fan even before I knew Dann and David   
Huff used to be members of Whiteheart.  Their first album is awesome.
'Time to Burn' is even better.  Any one searching for the record may have a 
extremely tough time I was surprised to see on the shelves. noting the limited
success of the first album excluding 'I'll see you in my Dreams'.  So I highly 
recomend If you see it in any form pick it up.  The cover art has a man jumping
into a pool wearing a flameing cape.

  And if you enjoy David Huff's guitar wark you may want to check out MWS
'Go West Young Man' and 'Change your World' He plays on both albums.  If I
remember correctly He also plays a tad on Steven Curtis Chapman 
'The Great Adventure'

	My Questions is  does anyone know If Dann, and David Huff of Giant
have any relation with Dann and David Huff and the other family members in 
David and the Giants (this includes Kellye Huff).  And has Any one heard David 
and the Giants new album please give me a critique (I'm at a loss for the
title) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: isc30366@nusunix1.nus.sg (HO TUCK CHIUN)
Subject: Re: >>>>>> 77's <<<<<<
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 07:02:24 GMT

Chippen (cwf50862@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: JHIATT@130.187.170.178 (JOHN HIATT) writes:
: >  I concur!  Excellent.  Why don't they do more studio stuff?  I have their
: >live album called 88 and its lame.
: >John.    JHIATT@GEMINI.SIM.ES.COM
: The new 77's album is on it's way.  I don't know the name (it used to be  
: "Pray Naked").  Look or ask for it in you local ccm store it is being shipped.
: catapult this combo to teenage stardom (yea so they arn't teens).

   It's called 'seventysevens'.  Supposed to be out already (according
to the local Word distribution release notes).

: chip

Rodney Ho

hotuckch@iscs.nus.sg
isc30366@nusunix1.nus.sg
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: wpr@atlanta.dg.com (Bill Rawlins)
Subject: Message from Russia about Christian rock music
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 21:46:16 GMT
Organization: Data General Corp. SID, Atlanta, GA

From THE SCROLL, Parker, Arizona

  Moscow, Russia - The head of the Unregistered Inion of Churches in Russia
  and an elder of the same group have sent an "Urgent Message to the churches
  of America from... the Persecuted Church in Russia."
       The letter, from Peter Peters and Vasilij Ryzhuk, was printed in
   CHRISTIAN INFO NEWS, a monthly newspaper from British Colombia, Canada:
       "For 30 years we have suffered intense persecution, and now freedom
   is bringing another harm to our churches.  This damage is coming from the
   Christians in America who are sending rock music and evangelists accom-
   panied by rock bands.
       "Our young people do not attend these meetings, because we have all
   committed not to participate in secular entertainment.
       "This is a great burden on our hearts.  Many come with Bible in hand
   and rock music.  We are embarrassed by this image of Christianity.  We do
   not know what words to use in urging that this be stopped.  We abhor all
   Christian rock music coming to our country.
       "Rock music has nothing in common with ministry or service to God. 
   We are very, very against Christian Americans bringing to our country
   this false image of 'ministry' to God.  We need spiritual bread; please
   give us true bread, not false cakes.  It is true that rock music
   attracts people to the church, but not to godly living.
       [Some paragraphs omitted because I'm tired of typing...]
       "...Even the unbelievers recognize it is unholy music and they
   cannot understand how American Christians can be so much like the world.
   We can give you the conclusion that after Russian unbelievers have
   attended the rock concerts where Christ's Word was preached, the people
   were very disappointed and disillusioned with Christianity.
       "We call this 'music from hell'.  We urge all Americans to stop
   giving money for the organization of such concerts in Russia.  We want
   only traditional Christian music in our churches.  This is the unanimous
   decision of all our leaders."

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From: ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Amy Grant's new .... daughter
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:15:00 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <2ADEFE8D.3920@news.service.uci.edu> phiggins@crux.acs.uci.edu (Paul Higgins) writes:
>
>According to the Los Angeles Times' "Morning Report" for Wednesday, Oct. 4:
>
>     Country music legend Minnie Pearl has a new namesake.
>     Grammy-winning singer Amy Grant has named her new daughter Sarah
>     Cannon Chapman in honor of Pearl, her longtime friend and fellow
>     Tennessean whose real name is Sarah Cannon.  The baby was born
>     Sunday in Nashville. ...

How-deeeeee!

Whew.  Minnie's probably a nice person and all, but I pity the poor
kid who bears her name.  What a reputation to live down.  It's
probably fortunate that Minnie's real name isn't widely known.
Amy, remember to teach that kid that the price tags come *off* the
clothes once you get them home.

Andy Whitman
AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, Ohio
att!cblpn!ajw  or
ajw@cblpn.att.com

(whose first son will be neither Gomer Pyle Whitman nor Jim Nabors Whitman)
From: Phil.Powell@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Phil Powell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Intermosh Expanding
Keywords: But It Needs Your Help
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:29:09 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service


I am trying to get Intermosh to be read via CompuServe, WWIVNet, FidoNet
and other networks.. I have found out a possible link between Internet and
WWIVNet, and also between Internet and Fidonet... however, I have no way
of sending Intermosh to anyone on these nets... would anyone like to
volunteer until my other account opens up?

Thanx in advance..

Phil



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