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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:31:00 MST
From:         Betty Zaleski <TSBZALESKI@CC.WEBER.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Women in Combat
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On July 30 Don said:

  >Lot of talk about this subject recently.  What do you think about it?  Should
  >woman be in combat?  What level of combat?  On ship running high tech
  >instruments?  ....or piloting high performance aircraft?  Or what about the
  >combat as in Vietname? ....I mean face to face where you see your opponents
  >eyes and you either waste him or cut him open with your bayonet..or you are
  >dead.  What about days without being able to bath, no private bathroom

 >                            Peace,
 >                                  Don

I know I live in a dream world, but I do not see any reason why women should
not bear the same responsibility for protecting the freedoms of this country
as the men do.  Since that responsibility sometimes includes war, so be it.
Maybe that is why I was the only member of my family to serve in the armed
forces, or maybe serving has given me this outlook.  I agree with Don
that I would not *like* some aspects of war and I would not go out of my
way to experience things like he described.  But I would accept the things
that go with the territory.  I just want the chance to choose for myself
whether I be in combat, not have that choice made for me by some male *&%$#&
persons who think they are 'protecting' me from the horrors of war.

Betty (feminist to the core) Zaleski
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:37:23 EDT
From:         Evelyn <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      re: Olympic athletes

Don,
  I don't blame you for getting upset.  That creep makes scum look good.

Evelyn
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:24:57 EDT
From:         Evelyn <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Quote of the day.
              24 Jul 1992 09:18:00 EST from <185422285@VUVAXCOM>

On Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:18:00 EST Alec D. Plotkin 215-645-4366 said:
>"Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on
>society.
>
>- Mark Twain

Twain never met Madonna. ;)

Evelyn
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:00:31 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      IRC Jam
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              92 8:58 am

> Twain wasn't at the IRC Party last night either.

	So, did anyone else show up after I left?

Czarina
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 22:00:44 -0500
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Don Moore!
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> I'm embarrassed to admit that Bernard growled at Muffy.  I think he
> thought Muffy was a cat. ;->  Just had to get that in, although I have
> to admit that Muffy is actually a handsome and personable dog.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Oh, Bernard...and I thought you were perfect!  However, I'm sure you were
just exhibiting your fearless watchdog mode rather than being unfriendly. :-)
ndh (who has just received a message that the system goes down in 5 minutes)
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Date: 22 Jul 92 20:17:46 GMT
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In article <9207221831.AA06984@fernwood.mpk.ca.us>, Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM writes:
|> On Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:56:44 GMT Ronald D. White said:
|> >test
|> 
|>      Is this a timid lurkerly toe in the water?  Come on in and swim
|>      with the sharks...
|> 
|>      Carol

The problem with swimming with sharks is that you could get into a soup,
and be finished once you sink your teeth into it... 

Pundit Venkatesha Swarawadhani Sreekantawadhani.
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: IRC Night tonight
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On Thu, 23 Jul 1992, Blue eyes cryin' in the rain wrote:
> 	I also tried to telnet to bradenville.andrew.cmu.edu, but it didn't
> 	want to have anything to do with me either.  Doesn't anybody like me
> 	anymore?	:-(
>

Of course we do!

I managed to telnet to the above address, but apparently everyone had gone
home by the time I got there...the people who were there did *not* know
Bernard.
ndh
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:24:28 EDT
From:         Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: RE: HELP!
              21 Jul 1992 15:53:00 LCL from <Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM>

On Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:53:00 LCL <Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM> said:
>>> We also scorn people who actually read manuals because any well-designed
>>> software is so intuitive that manuals are a waste of perfectly good trees.
>
>>I agree.  I also don't RTFM.
>
>     When I'm unemployed, homeless, and eating out of dumpsters, I'll
>     know who to thank.
>
>     Carol "it's not an adventure, it's just a job"

I'm astonished (or "shocked and appalled", as the book says).  I *love*
reading a well written technical manual.  I would much rather read the
manual than talk to some ditz on a help line.  Half the time I already
know far more than the help line person.  And I suppose it's like the
analogue vs digital watch argument: the watch hands *tell* me the time
directly - I  don't have to translate digits into the time.  Similarly
when reading a manual for something I don't have to translate my query
from internal thought-stuff into coherent English just to explain it to the
person at the other end.  And *I* already know what I do and don't know
(most of the time), whereas that's another thing that usually has to
be explained to the help person.

Tony H.
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From:         "Alec D. Plotkin 215-645-4366"
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Subject:      Car -correction - sorry

I meant to say, You lose much of your control when it rains in a Miata.
It cruises rather nicely at 105 on dry roads. A friend and I tried it.

later


alec
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:24:00 GMT
From:         WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Paranoid
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>> You don't want to know.  I feel paranoid when such things bother me,

>What's this!?! Are you saying there's something wrong with being PARANOID? Is
>this some type of underhanded comment at me?

>-abh

Oh my, good heavens, not at all!  "Just because you're paranoid
doesn't mean they're *not* all out to get you."  Have you perhaps
joined the LaRouche campaign?

It *is* interesting to see who responds to mention of paranoia...

Jill ;-)
   (wertsj%dialog@mcimail.com)
        ...just another innocent liberal...
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: dreary weekend
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>>Hi folks. I've been lurking on this list for a few weeks now, and
>>enjoying the "dribbling insanity" that floods my mailbox.  I hope
>>you won't get serious in any great hurry...  this list provides the
>>entertainment sorely lacking in my acadamia-dominated life.

>Hey, Ruth!

>Another Alaskan...takes us back to our roots, when one Alaskan identified
>herself as "The Barbarian Wench."

>Hope you like it here...post early, post often, and you'll do just fine.

>-abh

	Hey, I remember way back then too!  The 'Barbarian Wench' indeed...

	Welcome, Ruth-from-Alaska, and thanks for adding another dot to the
	official WORDS-L t-shirt.

neal
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:10:51 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: aggravation
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              24 Jul 1992 15:39:27 EDT from
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On Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:39:27 EDT Evelyn Duncan said:
>  The universities around here have a reciprocal agreement about
>library use (and ILL's).  If Bayla's associated with a college,
>maybe such an agreement can be reached between her college and a
>4-year university.

True enough.  But I thought she was now independent, thus the problems
with finding an email account and such.

What ARE you these days, Bayla?

dan
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:45:15 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Cure For High Blood Pressure?
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              31, 92 3:30 pm

> >	I lean more towards a.  Have you ever hung out at a nudist
> 				^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >colony?  There's something wonderfully *relieving* about not wearing
>  ^^^^^^
>
> >Rita
>
>   Bless you, Rita.  I don't think I would have had the strength of
> character to ask this in such a way.

	And I owe it all to Anne.

Czarina
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Date:         Sat, 25 Jul 1992 22:39:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: No Picture of Giggles (was Re: Eating Whales)
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> On Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:41:23 CDT Natalie Maynor said:
> >Why is Giggles not in a single one of my clambake pictures??  I'm
> >beginning to think that I just imagined him -- that he wasn't really
> >there.
>
> He's in LOTS of mine...especially a lot of them from the Pawsox game.
> I'll show you mine if you show me yours.....
>
> its ok natalie, bernard won't care.....
>
> dan

Everyone should know that natalie has pulled a <boo-boo>, because
I have *seen* these pictures and I am very clearly in one of them...
That is, if you consider my profile from the ears back to be
"a picture of giggles"........  better than <not extant>, for sure.
BTW, thanks natalie.... or was it bernard?????  Thanks mucho muchisimo.
--ggs
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:05:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: <sigh>
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> >     EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT A MAC IS A TOY
>
>   What does "toy" mean here?

Well, lemmesee.... it means, uh....  "an instrument for providing
pleasure to children, an instrument having no apparent utilitarian
value......"    BTW, I would say the same about the PC's answer to
the MAC....  those little ole <windows>......
--ggs
(but, I *love* toys......though it is difficult to understand how
somebody that I won't name (-a*h) could be snobbish about a *toy*)
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:45:56 CDT
From:         Tushar Samant <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Crosspost about women
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>I just felt you people out there would be amused if I posted this from a forum
>on another online service....
>-abh
> ------------------
>    Women online?  Hahahaahaha  You must be kidding right?


I am not amused. I have already heard, in person, three guys saying this.
It's an old one.

tushar
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:24:55 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Did you know I'm from Michigan?
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> And many of us like the idea that people who live in Michigan
> are Michiganers. :-)

I was going to mention that your daughter is living there now, but
I guess she isn't any more.

> So do I. But I always thought it was Michiganders. Goes along
> so nicely with Michigeese. Bill

Honk!  Honk!!!

Karen
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:41:14 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: IRC Night tonight
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>Well, it sounds like the IRC Nat hosted last evening was not spectacular. Let's
>not make tonight's swim in the Big Pond a similar experience. Remember, channel

Huh?  What complaints were there?  (Other than my own multiple ghosts that
resulted from the battle between QEMM and TN3270.)  The party seemed pretty
normal otherwise.  And hey -- I wasn't hosting! :-)  Somebody has to start
the channel.  That's all.  Then the party goes on.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:07:00 LCL
From:         Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM
Subject:      Reading manuals
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>Are we talking about sitting down and reading documentation -- sort of like
>reading a novel?  Or are we talking about looking up the answer to a
>question when the need arises?

     Along with many other strange personal habits, I do read
     documentation novel-wise.  And not just to steal design ideas or
     find howling how-not-to's, either.

     After using a program intensively for several weeks, I'll skim
     the manual cover to cover.  Then, when I have a problems, I may
     have a dim recollection: "Oh yeah -- they talk about that in the
     back of the book somewhere."

     While we're on the subject of documentation, I have a question
     for you guys.  What's the best manual you've ever used, and why?

     Carol
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 11:16:40 EDT
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (53
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>> We were interested to realize, when my husband was on staff at Auburn
>> University, that the jokes people told in Alabama as "Auburn jokes" were
>> the same ones told in Texas as "Aggie jokes."
>
>They're also Ole Miss - MSU jokes.
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
Didn't we talk about this a year or so ago? Or was that back
on FOLKLORE?

EVERYBODY makes the same jokes about the next-people-over.
The Scandinavians all tell them about each other. The French
about the Germans and the Belgians. The rest of the Canadians
about the Newfies. Northern Californians about Southern
Californians. Oregonians about ALL Californians. I'm told there
is a whole category of jokes about East Frisians current in
Denmark.

love, judith
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:50:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Car -correction - sorry
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> I meant to say, You lose much of your control when it rains in a Miata.
> It cruises rather nicely at 105 on dry roads. A friend and I tried it.
> later
> alec

Well, you see, the anomaly of all this quest for the perfect sports
car is that I *never* drive fast....  speed limit + about 4 mph is
where I always am.  So these salesmen look at me, when I say this,
and say....  What you need is this nice Geo.....  And my children
make fun of me because it takes me so long to get anywhere (not only
because of the sl+4 thing but because I can't pass up a cemetery
without stopping to look)....  So, I love the zipping around at
about 60 mph, but 105?   One must be insane crazy nuts to do that
more than about once a day.
--ggs (with previous record as owner of '62 Sunbeam Alpine, '71 MGB,
and '74 Porsche 914)
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From:         "JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS"
 <WILLIAMS%MC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Kids having kids

"When I was thirteen I thought my father to be the most ignorant creature
on Earth.  When I was twenty-one I was amazed at how much the Old Man had
learned in just seven years!"
                                - Mark Twain

JMW, proud adoptee, who if Roe/Wade had been around in the 40's, wouldn't be...
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:11:00 EST
From:         Adam Hartfield <AHARTFIE@DREW.DREW.EDU>
Subject: Re: WHTMITi
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>> Hello.  I'm here.  Wherer are you???
>
>	I'm in Cambridge, toots.  How's it hanging?
>
>Czarina

And I'm in Madison, New Jersey.

--Adam/LH
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:36:09 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Call for Standards
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              92 10:10 am

	Anne, where would we be without <you>?  It's been so nicety-nice
around here that I've nearly begun to <miss> Aaron.

Czarina
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:06:00 EDT
From:         Rita Leonard x3403 <LEONARD%BCVMCMS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: How's Adbam doing?

------------------------------TEXT-OF-YOUR-MAIL--------------------------------

>
> >Has anyone heard how Ann Diffily is doing over in Rhode
> >Island? We were thinking about her. -Rod
>
> I spoke to her a week ago, and she had permission to get out of bed but not
> overrexert herself.  Now that you mention it, it *is* a long time since we
> had word -- where's mama/p?
>
> --bayla

Just a few days ago, Ann was questioning the length of time it was safe
to keep a frozen turkey (over on EAT-L).  Apparently she is feeling up
to doing a little cooking.  I think she was planning to thaw one she
had frozen some time ago.  She *sounded* fine.

Rita L.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:03:00 EST
From:         Adam Hartfield <AHARTFIE@DREW.DREW.EDU>
Subject: Re: WHTMIT
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>form of a very nice Plymouth Voyager (which I was driving at the
>bake, but it is so ordinary no one noticed).  This is a question
>--ggs

I noticed.  I even remember thinking that it must be a late
model due to the aero headlamps.  I don't remember what color it is,
but dark green or tan seems to be right.

--Adam
noticer of clandestine doorbell ringing, too
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 03:11:35 MED
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject:      The subjectless posting later is SSN FAQ
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I maile the alt.privacy SSN faq from another machine, but couldn't
conveniently edit the post to trim out the headers or put in
a subject line.  So if you see mail with no subject and aren't
interested in the SSN thread, you'll know to delete it unread.

G
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From: maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu (Natalie Maynor)
Subject: Re: dreary weekend
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 02:14:33 GMT

It just occurred to me that we could be communicating on usenet even
with UGA down.  The problem is that messages like this will pile up and
go to the list later.  Maybe it's not so good an idea after all...
--
  -- Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:52:00 EST
From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The State of Being Gifless
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>It has kermit--but like I said, I can't download binary files intact,
>and neither can anyone else I talked to.  The Computer Services people
>are going to try, one day RSN. (To be a little fairer to the CS people,
>they are grossly understaffed.)  We did check to see that I had set the
>switches correctly (I did).

	You mean 'set file type binary' (for both the mainframe and the PC)
	doesn't work?  That's what I kept forgetting to do when my GIF
	downloads failed.

neal, who has seen the 'bake GIFs except for Judith and Jenna/Graham (they're
	only partials -- probably something wrong with my diskettes).
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:05:25 -0400
From:         droby@NOVA.TCS.TUFTS.EDU
Subject:      Re: bios
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              20 Jul 92 00:11:01 -0400."
              <9207191813.aa00120@Nova.TCS.Tufts.EDU>

>Ken, on the front page of The Times:  "President Bush has placed
>American military forces on alert to intervene in Yugoslavia ..."
>
>G

He stands ready to defend Kuwait again if it's necessary for the
campaign too.

RM
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:23:12 EDT
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Dessert
              21 Jul 1992 13:02:28 U from <harwell@SMTPGATE.TECHRSCS.PANAM.EDU>

On Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:02:28 U Anne said:
>Freshly-baked chocolate cookies from Subway featuring white and dark chocolate
>chips. yummm.

I know; I just LOVE Subway.

Evelyn
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 09:21:13 CDT
From:         Anne Harwell <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cure For High Blood Pressure?
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>	I lean more towards a.  Have you ever hung out at a nudist
>colony?  There's something wonderfully *relieving* about not wearing
>clothes.

Was that *you* ? <blush>

Actually, when my blood pressure gets up, I just read Words-L.

-abh
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:55:17 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: My Mac can do these...
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> 	Quite frankly, Evelyn, they suck eggs when you're used to Macs.

They suck eggs even if you're not used to Macs.  I hate Macs.  I hate
Windows.  I've always wondered why people who like Windows don't buy Macs.

> I suppose they're an improvement over the standard DOS interface, but

No.  I like the standard DOS interface.  For multi-tasking I like DESQview.
The only rival for standard DOS interface is Unix.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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