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From: rsykes@AFIT.AF.MIL (Robert K. Sykes)
Subject: Full Moon Productions Filmology - Puppet Master IV coming soon
Organization: Air Force Institue of Technology, WPAFB OH
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 11:43:48 GMT

                   Full Moon Production Films
TITLE               GENRE     STARS                         
-------------------------------------------------------------
Bad Channels        Sci-fi    Charlie Spradling, Martha Quinn
                              Paul Hipp, Michael Huddleston 
Crash & Burn        Sci-fi    Megan Ward, Paul Ganus
Demonic Toys        Horror    Tracy Scoggins, Daniel Cerny,
                              Bentley Mitchum
Dollman             Sci-fi    Tim Thomerson, Kamela Lopez,
                              Jackie Earle Haley
Meridian:Kiss/Beast Mystery   Sherilyn Fenn, Malcolm Jamieson,
                              Charlie Spradling, Alex Daniels
Netherworld         Horror    Michael Bendetti, Holly Floria,
                              Anjanette Comer, David Bryan,
                              Edgar Winters
Pit & the Pendulum  Horror    Lance Henriksen, Oliver Reed,
  (remake)                    Jeffery Combs, Rona De Ricci
                              Jonathan Fuller
Puppet Master       Horror    Barbara Crampton
Puppet Master II    Horror    Charlie Spradling, Jeff Weston,     
                              Gregory Webb, Collin Bernsen,
                              Elizabeth Maclellan,
Puppet Master III   Horror    Guy Rolfe, Richard Lynch, 
                              Sarah Douglas, Ian Abercrombie
Seed People         Sci-fi    Sam Hennings, Andrea Roth,
                              Dane Witherspoon, Holly Fields
Shadowzone          Horror    Louise Fletcher
Subspecies          Horror    Michael Watson, Laura Tate, 
                              Anders Hove, Michelle McBride,
                              Angus Scrimm
Trancers II         Sci-fi    Tim Thomerson, Helen Hunt, 
                              Megan Ward, Jeffery Combs,
                              Martine Beswick, Richard Lynch,
                              Telma Hopkins, Barbara Crampton
                        Coming Soon 
TITLE               GENRE     STARS                         
------------------------------------------------------------
Arcade    (2-93)    Horror    Megan Ward, Peter Billingsley,
                              Seth Green, John Delancie
Bloodstone:         Horror    Anders Hove, Denice Marie Duff,
 Subspecies II(1-93)          Melanie Shatner, Kevin Blair
Doctor Mordrid(9-92)Sci-fi    Jeffery Combs, Yvette Nipar,
                              Jay Acovone, Brian Thompson
Trancers III (10-92)Sci-fi    Tim Thomerson, Helen Hunt,
                              Megan Ward, Telma Hopkins,
                              Andrew Robinson
Puppet Master III   Horror    
Robot Wars  (10-92) Sci-fi    Barbara Crampton, Danny 
                              Kamekona, Don Michael Paul

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From: diane@mik.uky.edu (diane lynn benham)
Subject: Re: Robert McCammon
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 18:07:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.194526.7586@grebyn.com> fi@grebyn.com (Fiona  
Webster) writes:
> My suggestion?  Read "Pin" in _Blue_World_, and then go out in search

I read this whole collection but I don't remember this particular story.   
Is it the same type of thing as that ludicrous movie of the same name?

> You must read "Pin," though.  And confess to alt.horror every gory
> detail of how it made you *feel*, hee hee hee...
> 
> 							--Fiona W.

diane
From: lizi@ocf.berkeley.edu (Cosma R. Shalizi)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Necronomicon
Date: 3 Oct 1992 08:16:13 GMT
Organization: Vampire Research Group at Berkeley :)
NNTP-Posting-Host: lightning.berkeley.edu
Summary: Oy veh.

In article <BvJ8LA.F9G@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tdlg9831@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tracey Dianne Layng) writes:
>Hello. I am new to this group, and I saw the many posts about The Neconomicon.
>A while ago I went to the library to find other works by Lovecraft than the
>ones I had already read, and TN showed up under Lovecraft in the Rare book
>collection in the library of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.
>Curious, I went to look at it. It had a great introduction about the origin of
>the manuscript, etc, but the text was in Arabic. As I don't read Arabic, I
>don't know whether it was a joke or not, but a book called TN by Lovecraft does
>exist.
>
>Tracey
>UIUC

   Indeed. Was the introduction by a gentleman named L. Sprague de Camp?
Was the text on the order of 60-70 pages? Was it published by the Owlswick
(?) Press?
   If the answer to any of these questions was "Yes," then I have some good
news for you: It was a hoax. L. Sprague de Camp has been in science fiction
probably longer than anyone else still active (he and Clarke may have been
contemporaneous; I can't recall). He wrote THE biography of Lovecraft (in
addition to many other wonderful books, of course). He is also an MIT-trained
engineer and die-hard skeptic; one of the founders of the Committee for the
Scietific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal (CSICOP). The Owlswick
Press is a very small outfit in Philadelphia that puts out limited-edition
science fiction/fantasy works - in addition to this Nec., they did a very
nice collection of all of Niven's Warlock stories. The Arabic "text" of the
book is a couple pages long, and repeated eight times - that is, the same
n pages are repeated in order eight times. UC has a copy at one of those
pestillential places down South - Irvine or something. (I was a freshman;
I was bored; I had too much time on my hands...)
   If the answer to those questions was "No," or it otherwise doesn't match
my description - well, I guess I'll have to see about an interlibrary loan.
If this thing is real, I'll EAT my "Cthulhu Saves In Case He's Hungry Later"
bumper sticker.
	Cosma Rohilla Shalizi
	In Real Life: lizi@ocf.berkeley.edu
	larval physicist
	VP, Campus Crusade for Cthulhu (Berkeley), for which I DO speak
THE STARS ARE RIGHT: CTHULHU IN '92! WHY SETTLE FOR THE LESSER EVIL?
-- 
"Some savages are persuaded by the 'natural light' that it is their duty to
 eat people, and even Voltaire's savages, who are led by the voice of reason
 to hold that one should only eat Jesuits, are not wholly satisfactory."
-Bertrand Russell on Rousseau in _A History of Western Philosophy_, p. 694
From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Halloween 6?
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:52:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <markus.35.717773247@clement.info.umoncton.ca>, markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN) writes...
>In article <1a8es3INNgcf@bigboote.WPI.EDU> boisvert@yaya.WPI.EDU (Brian Richard Boisvert) writes:
>>From: boisvert@yaya.WPI.EDU (Brian Richard Boisvert)
>>Subject: Halloween 6?
>>Date: 29 Sep 92 02:26:11 GMT
>	I truly agree with you, Brian!!!  Halloween 5 left us with an intro 
>to Halloween 6 but I never heard of a new movie, neither Fangoria.  
>Halloween 5 CAN'T end the saga that way.  They introduced the guy dressed in 
>black, who saved Michael.  They just can't create someone like this.  The 
>story has to continue.  I have so much questions about Michael. 

Halloween 6 is supposed to be coming out this Halloween, along the 
"Final" Friday the 13th film.

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"As your Mr.Spock said, The needs of the many outweighed the needs of the few."
"A truism, like most of Spock's Epigrams. But on occasion, I'm afraid, cold
comfort." Jillian and James T. Kirk - "Star Trek - Debt of Honour"
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Jef Kolodziej                                                   The KaTeFan(tm)
v129j6ed@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu           State University of New York at Buffalo
History Major                                                  51 East NorthRup
(716) 837-9610                                                Buffalo, NY 14214
From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: King's latest book
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:38:29 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <BvLzvr.LAI@mach1.wlu.ca> maci9154@mach1.wlu.ca (macivor dawna) writes:
>Has anyone read Stephen King's book "Gerald's Game"?  If you have I'd like
>to know what you thought of it.  Personally, I found it very disturbing and
>could not believe he could imagine such a thing.  Normally I enjoy his
>D. MacIvor =)

I can't believe what a small world we live in! Do you know Ken Breadner? I
notice that you both go to WLU and Ken is a good friend of mine who I met on
here! Anyway though, to address the subject at hand, yes I read "Gerald's
Game" and I liked it. It _was_ disturbing, but I think that was one of King's
intentions in writing the book. Are you a new subscriber to alt.horror? There
was a big discussion line about "Gerald's Game" when it first came out all
over, but I don't mind discussing it again. Have you read any other of King's
books?
			Laurel
 

__________________"I am Count Dracula. I bid you welcome."__________________

Laurel A. Povazan                                "There is nothing there
laurelp@vms.cis.pitt.edu                          in the dark that isn't
                                                  there in the light---
(Also known as Laurel,                            except fear."  
 the avid horror fan!)                                 -Advertising line  
						        for "Cape Fear"
						 
_______________________-Count Dracula in "Dracula"__________________________
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: mlm@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael McCool)
Subject: Re: King's latest book
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: CSO Resource Center
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:38:43 GMT

I liked it, I just expected more from it.  The idea was cool, I thought, and
the possibilities were numerous, but as the story went on, I found myself 
wishing something would happen already.  I did especially like the image of
sitting on a bed listening to a dog eat your spouse, though...
	--MLM

--
 ____
/ oo \  Mike McCool 
\ .. /  mlm@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
 ||||   
 \__/   "Well, you're certainly in touch with your anger."  --Frank Drebbin
From: boisvert@yaya.WPI.EDU (Brian Richard Boisvert)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Halloween 6?
Date: 29 Sep 1992 02:26:11 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: yaya.wpi.edu

	Well, it's that time of year again . . . What the hell with this.  Is
this movie ever going to be made.  Halloween 5 ended with a blatant cliffhanger
does anyone know why there hasn't been a sixth film.  Did the studio go 
bankrupt or lose interest?  I'm sure they must have made a profit on the
5th one - I don't think it cost much to make.  Anybody?

-- 
Brian R. Boisvert    Worcester Polytechnic Institute    boisvert@wpi.wpi.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Friday the 13th part XIII
Reply-To: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 17:09:30 GMT

Being a big fan of the Friday the 13th films, I was glad when I saw thy
were making a part nine.  But, I still don't understand the end of part
8.  Anybody figure it out?  I saw the actor (Kane Hodder, maybe?) at a
horror convention a while ago and he said he had watched the film 3 times
and _he_ didn't understand the ending either.  Anybody???

                                                  ->Spice
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: donnell@seal.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Necronomicon
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:45:40 GMT

In article <BvH42z.I3H@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au> fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.165032.19259@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@orca.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>|> 
>|> You seem to think I have no belief in the supernatural/paranormal.
>|> That is a mistake. I just don't think the Necronomicon exists. And if 
>|> you wish to talk about open minds, don't be so obvious about the fact
>|> that no evidence on earth or beyond, will change your view.
>|> Endeavor to expand your own horizons and remove your own blinkers. 
>|> Probably more helpful for you in the long run. 
>|> If there was any evidence other than your blind insistence that the book
>|> exists, I might change my view. But there is not. You have even
>|> managed to twist the lack of evidence in your favor. But you refuse
>|> apparently to believe that such a book and the tales about it could have
>|> just come from a slightly disturbed, creative mind. 
>|> Hawk your tired conspiracy theories all you want, but you have far less
>|> proof that it might exist, than there is for it being fictitious.
>|> Enjoy your fantasies.
>|> 
>|> 					--Judex--
>|> 
>
>The TRUE Necronomicon is no corner store comic. It does NOT exist in paperback.
>This ancient tome is necessarily hand written in code. Thus to unravel its true
>secrets you need to rigourously study its contents. I do not own a copy of the
>Necronomicon, nor do I know exactly how many exist, but they can be counted on 
>one hand. I have however, seen an extract which was partly decoded. The contents
>were quite blasphemous and I do not wish to repeat them. What more proof do you
>need? What other information I have is necessarily confidential and cannot be
>revealed. For this I am sorry.
>
>It does you no harm to choose to look the other way. Sometimes we choose 
>ignorance for our own peace-of-mind. However, from my own experience, if you
>seek the truth, then eventually the truth is what you will find. It does not
>come to you on a plate!
>
>You wish to have me believe the contrary to what I have found IS the truth.
>
>Again you choose proof by blatant ascertion and like Thomas, you show no faith
>in your fellows.
>
>To sum up I should say " enjoy your fantasies".
>
>Mark.
>(I enjoy observing the parallels between what is said to be fiction and what
>I know to be fact.)
>

I argue by assertion, and show no faith in my fellow man. Please give me
slightly more credit than that. But, alas, this has grown most tiresome.
For all you know, I am one of those of whom you speak. But you shall
never know for sure. Perhaps I was trying to dissuade you for the
purposes of our secrecy, or your own safety. Perhaps, I have
already said too much.

					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: frazier@elf.etsu.edu (Jeff Frazier)
Subject: Re: Creepshow comic
Reply-To: frazier@elf.etsu.edu (Jeff Frazier)
Organization: East Texas State University, Commerce, TX
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:57:27 GMT

I bought my copy from Dalton's in a large mall in Arkansas just about 6
months ago and it was still a first edition.

Jeff Frazier (frazier@elf.etsu.edu)
From: iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: werewolves and nazis
Keywords: werewolves
Date: 30 Sep 92 05:29:31 GMT
Organization: Carleton University

I noticed a while <well quite a while but anyway> back that there
was/is some sort of coupling of nazis and werewolves being worked
through in a few readily available works.  I was reminded of this when
I saw a reference to McCammon's THE WOLF'S HOUR on an earlier posting.
About the same time as it was released <1989> I noticed a couple of
others.  One was THE WEREWOLF'S TALE <1988> by Richard Jaccoma and the
other escapes me at present.  I know there is a strong tie between the
werewolf and masculinity <sometimes conservative; sometimes not> but
why nazis?  Any thoughts would be appreciated as well as any other
examples.  I never pursued this but I wish I had.

Well, time to take this swollen head <thanks again Fiona> to bed.

Ian
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: frazier@elf.etsu.edu (Jeff Frazier)
Subject: Re: Peter Straub
Keywords: none
Reply-To: frazier@elf.etsu.edu (Jeff Frazier)
Organization: East Texas State University, Commerce, TX
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:54:14 GMT

I've read Shadowland and I thought it was pretty good. I also read another
of his called something like If You Could See Me Now and it was also good.
Of couse his best is the Talisman which he wrote with Stephen King!!

Jeff Frazier (frazier@elf.etsu.edu)
id <m0mbFy8-0000J5C@crash.cts.com>; Sat, 3 Oct 92 13: 20 PDT
	id <j335291@pro-amber.cts.com>; Sat,  3 Oct 92 09: 48 PDT
From: rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randy Sopicki)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Another paw raised for werewolves
Date: 3 Oct 92 16:41:28 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-amber] -- Spring Valley, Ca

In <1aht7kINN1nv@aludra.usc.edu> fields@aludra.usc.edu (Canis) writes:

>>>>>	Is there a group for those interested in lycanthropy?  I mean, if
>>>>>alt.vampyres
>>>
>>>> Yeah, I think this'd be a great idea!
>
>Ditto! Count me in as well! <sharptooth grin>
>
>>
>>>I am a notorious lycanthromaniac where I live.  I have done loads of
>>>research on werewolf legends and such, and would like to see
>>>werewolves hit the nets.  I think that vampires, as neat as they are,
>>>keep running away with too much publicity that should go to
>>>werewolves.  And, there are so many more vampire books and movies
>>>that don't suck compared to the choice of werewolf stuff.  (There are
>>>good werewolf books out there, but very few movies.)
>
>
>And if not an actual newsgroup, how's about we get together a mailing
>list?
>

Count me in too. I'll subcribe to either or both. I receive the alt.vampyres
feed at my site and its very interesting.
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: tdlg9831@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tracey Dianne Layng)
Subject: Re: Necronomicon
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 06:27:09 GMT

Hello. I am new to this group, and I saw the many posts about The Neconomicon.
A while ago I went to the library to find other works by Lovecraft than the
ones I had already read, and TN showed up under Lovecraft in the Rare book
collection in the library of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.
Curious, I went to look at it. It had a great introduction about the origin of
the manuscript, etc, but the text was in Arabic. As I don't read Arabic, I
don't know whether it was a joke or not, but a book called TN by Lovecraft does
exist.

Tracey
UIUC
From: frantz@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: The Post Man!!!
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:24:27 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <1992Sep29.011638.16776@rigel.econ.uga.edu>, hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes) writes:
> In article <5060@calmasd.Prime.COM> rac@calmasd.Prime.COM (Russ Clark) writes:
>>
>>   I was talking w/ a friend over the weekend about books that we injoyed 
>>   reading, and I mentioned The Stand, and she said that she loved it, and
>>   also enjoyed "The Post Man", the author had escaped her mind, but she
>>   said, that it dealed along the end of the world bases like King's book.
>>
>    David Brin wrote (one of his first, if not his first) a book called
>    The Postman.  It is set 16 years after a nuclear/chemical/biological
>    war.  It does not have a fantasy/horror element.  The main character
>    finds a mail carrier's uniform and mail and sets out re-unifying
>    the country by pretending that the US Postal Service is in operation.
>    (These are not spoilers, btw, these are established early on in the book.)
> 
>    Wayne

Brin's book sounds a great deal like a book I read by Whitley Strieber and 
James Kunetka (I think I spelled that last name correctly) years ago.  The 
book was called Warday and naturally examined the aftermath of 
post-apocalypse America.  The two were journalists, I believe, and 
travelled the country researching and writing about the people and things 
they ran across.  It was a great book, and though I wouldn't categorize it 
as horror per se, it certainly had its moments.  Has anyone read both 
Brin's and Streiber's books and can you compare them?

Andrea @ BVC
From: graziano@rocko.enet.dec.com (Rocko Graziano)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Peter Straub
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:39:50 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Sep29.222557.23335@kpc.com>, lewis@kpc.com (Bob Lewis) writes...
>I picked up a few Peter Straub books at a used book sale, Shadowland
>and Koko.  How come I never hear about this guy on this newsgroup ?
> 
>Any opinions out there on these two books or any others he has written ?
> 
> 
>Bob

You don't here much about Peter Straub because his books can be very difficult
to read: the plots are complex, the characters are often full of tremendous
surprises, and Straub doesn't seem to care much about writing in a linear
progression (where things happen in relative time order).  He's kinda suffered
under King's shadow - King's books appeal to a larger market, so they get
most of the press and notariety.

But, if you find yourself comfortable with his writing style, his books are
well worth the effort. _Shadowland_  (which I think is one the best books of
all time) is about two young boys learning to become magicians. _Koko_ is more
of a mystery story about 6 vietnam vets trying to solve a murder

His other books vary in quality:  _Floating Dragon_ and _Ghost Story_
are well done, his work on _The Talisman_ contributed alot to the tone
and effect that book has, but _Julia_ and _If You Could see me Know_ are
week (in my opinion).   

Straub's books are often published by Donald Grant in limited edition: they
don't sell out as fast as Kings', but they've been well worth the money.

Cheers,
Rocko
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: maxc1104@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Generic Account 1104)
Subject: Re: anthologies anyone?
Summary: Whoop-sie! 
Keywords: dog food wombat assassination sex drugs rocknroll 
Organization: The Special Corps 
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:20:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.205922.59456@cc.usu.edu> slb3y@cc.usu.edu (Punk Rocketeer) writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.194309.10044@ucselx.sdsu.edu>,
>maxc1104@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Generic Account 1104) writes:
>>   Yeah! _Book of the Dead_, edited by John Skipp & Craig Spector, is a good
>> ...
>> (b) muck around with the
>> "rules" too much (having zombies talk, etc.).
>
>     HELLO AUNT ALICIA!
>--
  [.sig deleted]

  Good one, Mr. Clark. In fact, I just spent the last hour and a half 
trying not to burst out laughing at this remark.
  However, I see I should clarify what I said earlier about "having zombies
talk". I didn't mean Dr. Frankenstein's behaviorist experiments with Bub; 
I meant having zombies retain human intelligence and having "normal" 
conversations. In Nicholas Royle's Dead story "Saxophone", this is rationalized
by stating that these particular dead dudes can speak using the residual air
in their lungs, but don't expect them to chew gum and blow any bubbles since
their diaphragms are no longer operational.
  Sorry, Mr. Royle. Real men don't eat quiche, and real zombies don't 
ask for the time of day.

							Love & kisses,

						The Stainless Steel Moviegoer

						It will be a great day when
						horror filmmakers have all
						the money they need and the
						NFL has to hold a bake sale
						to buy new uniforms.
From: fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Necronomicon
Date: 4 Oct 92 06:56:31 GMT
Organization: Physics Dept. The University of Queensland

In article <wright.718115545@latcs1.lat.oz.au>, wright@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Michael G. Wright) writes:
|> > HPL was not part of any conspiracy. He, like many others who were
|> > privy to such knowledge, was sworn to silence. This explains his
|> > apparent denials concerning the existance of such that he wrote
|> > about. By selling his work as *fiction* he was able to disseminate
|> > portions of his secret archane knowledge.
|> 
|> 	If HPL was sworn to silence, then why did he write so much about the
|> 'truth'??? Don't you think that if the cultists read any of his work that he'd
|> be the next one on the altar with a knife sticking out of his guts?
|> 

HPL faked his own death because of this threat. I heard that he is currently
selling pizzas in a small shop in Kenmore, along with Elvis and Jim (Morrison).
Hey, don't tell anybody though. It's a secret.


Mark :^)
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