HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: BRUGGINK@ccc.nersc.gov
Subject: You're gonna need one big chickadee ...
Reply-To: BRUGGINK@ccc.nersc.gov
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:18:37 GMT

eagle sez:

|Y'all got eagles on the East Coast?  Southern California?  Them
|pesticide infested corn fields in the Midwest?  Y'all ain't even got
|enough raptors to shove up a chickadee's ass in the midwest anymore.


I counted 24 bald eagles one January afternoon along the Wisconsin river;
w/o really trying it's nowhere near impossible to spot at least a half dozen
any winter morning.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: dab@blitzen.uucp (25853-ballard)
Subject: philly blues
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 15:54:46 GMT




hey now-  does anyone have any info on the upcoming philadelphia
blues festival?  i know that among others john lee hooker and 
robert cray are playing, but i don't know when or where...

thanks
dab


=========================================================================
dave ballard			"Life may not be the party we hoped for,
dab@blitzen.cc.bellcore.com      but while we're here we should dance."
=========================================================================
From: garry@alice.att.com (garry hodgson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Donna Bashing? Re: (none)
Summary: reality check
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:56:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.23369
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ

In article <1992Jul30.160732.9942@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, WS3X@cornellc.bitnet (Bill Sloan) writes:
> This Donna Bashing is getting outa hand (and seems to me a thinly
> veiled form of chavunism i.e. the Dead's stage is no place for
> a woman, its too intense or some BS like that).

Whooooa!  This is a bit ridiculous.  Nobody has said anything of the
kind here.  Some folks liked Donna's contribution, others did not.
But assuming a hidden chauvinistic agenda behind people's legitimate
differences in musical tastes is absurd.  And insulting.

Mind you, I haven't weighed in on this debate; I think it's
pointless.  And I'm not even sure where I stand.  I like her
on some stuff, I don't on other stuff.  Do you care?

> Believe it or don't, some times the men up on that stage fall flat
> on their faces also.  And if you can abide Jerry's vocals (in the past somtimes
> nothing more than groans) you should certainly have the sensitivity to have
> noticed the grace and balance to all that Yang energy that Donna provided.

Again, it's a matter of personal taste.

> At least her nose wasn't packed nor did she hose down the first
> three rows every time she pronounced the letter "s".

Gratuitous slams.  What does this have to do with anything?

>  Dudes, why is so imprtant to you to trash Donna (even if you really believe
> everything you've said)?

Here we agree.  I mean, what's the point of arguing about it?
Whether you loved Donna or hated her, she was a part of the band,
and now is not.  Nothing anybody says here is gonna change that,
nor is it gonna change anybody elses musical tastes.  If you like
Donna's voice, listen to your tapes and enjoy it.  If you don't,
either don't listen to those tapes, or learn to deal with it, cause
it's not gonna go away.

-- 
Garry Hodgson			A slow winter day
AT&T Bell Labs			A night like forever
garry@alice.att.com		Sink like a stone
att!alice!garry			Float like a feather
From: finkel@sdi.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Personal to Henry Messenger
Date: 23 Jul 92 11:07:39 CDT
Organization: Systems by Design of Illinois (SDI), Chicago

Hank,
	Please drop me a line
/Joel
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
			Vote for Ron Daniels
  Joel R. Finkel   Systems by Design of Illinois (SDI) 	 finkel@sdi.com
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From: chris@ucselx.sdsu.edu (lemaire c)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Jerry Tickets still available for Chula Vista.
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:14:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: San Diego State University



According to today's L.A. Times there are still tickets available  
for Sunday's Jerry show at Devore Stadium in Chula Vista.

Devore Stadium is the home of South Western's football team. It's
a nice little venue, holds around 13,000. Saw the Dead there back
in 85 and had a very pleasant show. The police are fairly mellow, one
officer was playing late 60's - early 70's soul music over his squad
car's p.a. He even had a few stickers stuck to his window. And since
Chula Vista is only a short distance from the border, you can hit
lovely Tijuana befor the show starts.

Tickets are 23.50 in advance, 25.00 the day of the show. Tickets are
available thru Ticket Masters. Concert starts at 5:00 p.m.

See you there and at Irvine for  Jerry's big five oh.


chris lemaire
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: andyrose@netcom.com (San Francisco Fractal Factory)
Subject: Wide Spread Panic and Shoreline TIX
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 17:49:24 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

When do Shoreline TIX for Grateful Dead go on sale
for BASS?  This is getting frustrating...

Does anyone know of e-mail or list access for
Wide Spread Panic?

AnR

-- 

Andrew Rose
andyrose@netcom.com
FAX 4155537756
From: Frederick.A.Ringwald@dartmouth.edu (Frederick A. Ringwald)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Probability & Statistics
Date: 24 Jul 92 10:15:49 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

You often hear that the Dead have never repeated a set. How does anyone
know? Has anyone ever checked? What do you think the chances are of
them ever repeating a set? That you're all using computers to read this
makes these problems more interesting. 

I'm not so sure about arguing that if they did, some fans would notice.
Anyone can make a mistake, after all, for any number of reasons, plus
the band has played a fair number of sets.

Let's not count individual notes - which cause huge variations in the
case of Dark Star alone - just song titles, as if this weren't
fuzzily-defined enough already. (Does anyone really know when the Other
One starts? Does the band?) Some songs are played more often than
others, so a really good model for predicting the chances of repeating
a set (the probability problem) would assign differing statistical
weights to each song. Checking to see if the band has ever repeated a
set (the statistics problem) might be easier, provided a text file of
setlists for all sets ever played, with all song titles consistently
written.

Most interestingly, how does the band know? If they are on the verge of
repeating a set, does someone chime in, "no, we played that set in
1974"? Or is their repertoire so large they never get close?

More curious questions from
fred.ringwald@dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Skeptical Envelopment <APOEHLER@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Wave That Flag/U.S. Blues
Reply-To: APOEHLER@ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:49:10 GMT

Hey, I was looking through Deadbase the other day and noticed that they have
separate listings for "U.S. Blues" and "Wave That Flag".  What is the 
difference between the two?  Unfortunately, I don't have any of the shows 
listed with "Wave That Flag", so can someone fill me in?
-=-=-=-==-=-==-==Aaron
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Michael Bourgoin <manutius!ozhost!mab@uunet.uu.net>
Subject: personal to norma sax
Reply-To: manutius!ozhost!mab@uunet.uu.net
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:43:58 GMT

Norma,

Your "From:" line in your dead-flames postings says sax.uoregon. I've  
been trying to send you a note but it keeps bouncing. So far I've  
tried "sax@uoregon.edu", "sax@u.oregon.edu",  
"uoregon!sax@uunet.uu.net". They all seem to be getting to uoregon  
alright but keep coming back with "User unknown." Would you please  
send me your full email address?

Gratefully,
@->@->@->@->@->@->@->@->@->@->@->@->@->@->@->@->@->@->@->@->@->@->
Michael Bourgoin			mischa@aldus.com
					manutius!mischa@uunet.uu.net
=================================================================
"...It's going to be a long time before Virtual Reality begins to  
approximate the price/performance ratio of LSD."
-J.P. Barlow, SIGGRAPH '90
=================================================================
DISCLAIMER: If you think I speak for Aldus, you have more lawyers  
than common sense!
<-@<-@<-@<-@<-@<-@<-@<-@<-@<-@<-@<-@<-@<-@<-@<-@<-@<-@<-@<-@<-@<-@
From: richter@hera.Berkeley.EDU (Jean Richter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: *My* clueless opinion!
Date: 31 Jul 1992 20:34:14 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: hera.berkeley.edu
Summary: more o' the same

In article <1992Jul31.185256.1208@sunspot.noao.edu> brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown) writes:
<In article <15bsv4INNndj@agate.berkeley.edu> richter@hera.Berkeley.EDU (Jean Richter) writes:
<>
<>I must respectfully disagree. While I only got to see one Keith & Donna
<>show in late '78, based on listening to tapes, the Brent era wins
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<>hands down. Sometimes the 72-77 vocals sound fine, other times
<>it's painful to listen to. They were much more consistently in tune
<>during the Brent years. Don't base your opinions of their vocal
<>skills on live albums, which are heavily overdubbed after the fact.
<>
<
<So how could you judge or even compare the one show you saw in 78, and
<say the Brent era wins hands down.
<
<Don't base your opinions on limited experiences.
<
<Door swings two ways you know:-)

Next time try reading what I wrote.

<We all have opinions, mine for instance is I can't stand Brent, he
<for me was not what I invisioned as DEAD inspired, I'd take Donna
<over Brent anyday.
<
<And the Band as a band were much more productive during the period
<when Keith and Donna were on board, look how many songs from that
<period are still in the rotation.
<

Hanging the band's lack of songwriting onto Brent seems pretty
harsh to me. I think there were many other factors, such as
changes in the band members' drugs of choice. And after all,
the Keith & Donna era produced such wonders of songwriting
as the Shakedown Street album :-) (yeah, I know, there are
some good songs on it, but it's not exactly my favorite)

<>There's no denying the new monitor earphones help immensely
<>(and that chorus-vocalizer effect they use now helps too :-)
<>Vince has a better range than Brent did (Brent lost his high
<>register by '82 or '83), but I still think Brent sang more
<>consistently in tune than Vince, except maybe for his decline
<>in late '89 - early '90.
<>
<
<So what was Brent doing during '84 thru '89, just hanging on.
<

Losing one's high vocal range != just hanging on. Jerry's lost
some range too - do you think he's just hanging on? I didn't say
he sang worse, just that he sang lower. Frankly, I liked the 
gravel-voiced Brent a lot better than the Eagles-clone Brent.

Jean Richter
richter@hera.Berkeley.EDU
ucbvax!hera!richter
From: mitchh@hops.gvg.tek.com (Mitch Hendrickson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Whats going on in S.F. 8/3-13 and Eel?
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:18:35 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA


Me> Umm, how about 3 Jerry shows? :-)  August 6,7,8 @ the Warfield.  See

Andy> Is this a rumor? Huh? (visualize angry net-police)

It appears to be real.  Unlike Squaw, which I'm sure you've heard
about by now.  Not to start any rumors, but I have heard some
rumblings about maybe Boreal Ridge as an alternate venue.  I repeat,
this is not to be construed as anything more than a wild rumor.  It's
just that my Mom called me up and said "I hear maybe JGB @ Boreal."
[I coach a kiddies race team there in the winter, and she's somewhat
involved up there too].

>Can the signal/noise ratio on this group be improved?

Heh heh heh.  Silly fool.  If you want s/n, sign up for dead-heads.
That's where I heard about JGB @ Warfield anyway...

-Mitch


-- 
Mitch Hendrickson		mitchh@gold.gvg.tek.com
Grass Valley Group, Inc.	(of course I don't speak for them!!)
P.O. Box 1114  (M/S N3-2F)
Grass Valley, CA 95945		"Sedan delivery is a job I know I'll keep"
From: DAMATO@unc.bitnet (Victor A D'Amato)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Bob and Rob on CNN
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:22:26 GMT
Reply-To: DAMATO@unc.bitnet
Organization: The Internet

Headline News just can't get enough Dead.  Now Bob and Rob have
generated some positive publicity on the cable station's entertainment
news.  I saw a nice long piece on them this morning, including about
a minute of the new song Eternity which the Bobs wrote with Willie
Dixon.  Also a few minutes of interviewing Bob and Rob about their music
and working with Willie Dixon, etc...

Question:  Bob talked about this song in the Golden Road's annual issue,
I'm wondering if he is going to try this one out with the Dead.  He
seemed to imply this in the GR interview.  Even though he claims that he
likes to keep his two bands separate in terms of repertoire, I hope
that Bob decides to play this tune with both.

Vic
From: jerryme@hardy.u.washington.edu (Jeffrey Seifred)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: squaw valley tix
Summary: swquaw valley tix
Keywords: squaw valley tix
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:31:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul24.223114.20515
Organization: University of Washington


 I called BASS last Monday and they told me tickets would go on sale today, being Friday but they lied!  They said that they had no idea when tickets would go on sale but it could be any day now.  Who knows.........
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: First and LAST visit to a Grateful Dead Concert.  Yuk
Followup-To: Wheel Keeps Turnin' Round and Round 
Keywords: Porsche, Jeeezzzz! 
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 18:12:57 GMT


Amazing how if you stand around long enough, everything comes back
around. :-) :-) :-)

John, maybe this whole article should be included in the FAQ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>V<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 
>TODD|-ODD-|:-)                   |         Nothing Left To Do But  <
>brown@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu  /|\             :-) :-) :-)        <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>V<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: caherty@wizard.nrl.navy.mil (Frank Caherty)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: the perennial subject of donna and keith
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:12:50 GMT
Reply-To: caherty@wizard.nrl.navy.mil
Organization: The Internet

John Greene > Let's all respect each other's "OPINIONS", shall we?
Wharfie >  Even when the other guy's ***WRONG*** ????
John > I take it you meant to include smilies?  How can opinions be wrong?
                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

How about: when they don't correspond to physical, testable reality?

Regards,
Frank
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: mjs@sequent.com (Mike Spitzer)
Subject: Re:   Request for Las Vegas Steve Miller song titles...
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc., Beaverton, OR
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 19:02:03 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.180304.18654@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> sjeck@isi.com writes:
>I sent Stevie tapes before I sent them to you guys.  seemed like
>he deserved them more....ooonnooo!  i made a moral judgement!
>
>steve

So did he send anything back to you?

		Mike
From: jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John J. Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: On this date...
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:54:06 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Two years ago today was the passing of Brent Mydland.  If/when you have
a chance, please take a moment in silence for the memory of our fallen
brother and be thankful for all that he gave us.  

Twenty years ago today, the Dead played the second of only two pairings of
Dark Star->Comes A Time at the Paramount Theatre in Portland, Oregon.  The
duo was featured on Gans' GD Hour and great boards of this show are in
circulation (and highly recommended).

*-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
| John J. Wood                                  jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu  |
*-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
| "It gets so very hard to find,				   	     |
|  Can't imagine what's behind those sleepy eyes" (3/22/90 - Hamilton)	     |
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Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Jannette Pazer <ibmsupt!ibmpa!jannette.aix.kingston.ibm.com!jannette@uunet.uu.net>
Subject: Grovel for Albany, Buffalo '92 tapes
Reply-To: ibmsupt!ibmpa!jannette.aix.kingston.ibm.com!jannette@uunet.uu.net
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:43:37 GMT

Hi tried this grovel a while ago without any luck, perhaps more tapes 
are in circulation now.

Does anyone have the following tapes with very good/excellent sound quality?
Have lots of Dead, JGB, Phish, other non-dead to trade, analog only.  

09/26/91 Dead - Boston Garden - Soundboard only
03/07/92 Allman Brothers, Mid-Hudson Civic Center, Poughkeepsie, NY
03/13/92 Dead - Nassau Coliseum (Fri)
06/06/92 Dead - Rich Stadium, Buffalo (Sat)
06/11/92 Dead - Knickerbocker Arena, Albany (Thurs)
06/12/92 Dead - Knickerbocker Arena, Albany (Fri)


Thanks!!!
  Jannette

-- 
Jannette Wing Pazer 		* 	IBM Kingston, NY - "tangled up in Blue"
		No direct internet access, go through uunet. 
uunet:
   uunet!panews.awdpa.ibm.com!jannette.aix.kingston.ibm.com!jannette
internet:
   panews.awdpa.ibm.com!jannette.aix.kingston.ibm.com!jannette@uunet.UU.NET
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: The Electric Knight <harper!rmartine@uunet.uu.net>
Subject: net.gathering in Chicago area
Reply-To: harper!rmartine@uunet.uu.net
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:50:52 GMT

This is for those users who are in the Chi-Town area that receive their news
from an outside Il. source.


Net head Gathering at Durty Nellies in Palatine, Illinois.

Date: Mid-August (the 16th or the 18th)  Time: Be early! 8:00 pm.
Band:  Uncle John's Band - Local Cover Band w/ good original songs.
Map and directions to follow later.

If interested in going, please mail all responses to me.
uunet!harper!rmartine  or call at (708)351-1033 and ask for Rick.

For any info on future dates, call: (312) 764-4813 - UJB Hotline

Peace

Rick 

P.S. Marc,  my post in my nn did go out. :-)  So, no worries!
-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: mac@sequent.com (Cormac Burke)
Subject: Veneta tix on sale at FASTTIX on the 25th
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 18:51:14 GMT

There was an ad in today's Oregonian for the Veneta shows, 
tix definitely go on sale tomorrow at FASTTIX outlets. No
mention of BASS or Ticketmaster, so I have no idea if they'll
be available in California or elsewhere. For those of you in
Oregon, FASTTIX outlets are in most Fred Meyer stores, and
if you're in Portland, Music Millenium stores. Supposed to
go on sale at 8 AM. 
Cormac

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: tnf@well.sf.ca.us (David Gans)
Subject: Re: Dead Hour
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:38:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.143050.17081@mdi.gwinnett.com> gph@mdi.gwinnett.com (Greg P. Hershinow) writes:

>How would one go about getting the Dead hour put onto a local radio station.

The best way is PUBLIC DEMAND.  Get a few hundred Deadheads to write and/or
phone the station and request that they pick up the program.

If it's a commercial station, it helps to have a couple of sponsors lined
up, businesses that are prepared to commit money to advertising on the GD
Hour.  Sponsor->underwriter if it's a noncommercial station.  If it's a
noncommercial station, listeners can pledge money to support the program on
the station.

The cost of the program varies according to several factors.

What station in Atlanta were you thinking of targeting?

-- 

	David Gans	tnf@well.sf.ca.us
			{apple,pacbell,hplabs,ucbvax}!well!tnf
From: D_MCCABE@unhh.unh.edu (Doug McCabe)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Looking for the *Killler* summer tour tapes....
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:08:12 GMT
Reply-To: D_MCCABE@unhh.unh.edu
Organization: The Internet



Hey, folks, I was wondering if anyone would be up for trading for summer
tour tapes.  I am interested in all shows except the Las Vegas run (thanks
Paolo).  

Have 800+ hours to trade, quality is of the essence.

Thanks.

--Doug McCabe
From: lewis4@husc8.harvard.edu (Andrew Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re:  Ice-T
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:00:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Jul30.140058.14321
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Jul30.123311.24692@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>In article <15795eINN6lq@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> ST702459@brownvm.brown.edu (Jordan Schwartz) writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>Censorship: I haven't seen anything about this yet (may be just a slow
>>feed), but I see that Ice-T pulled his cop killer song. Couple comments:
>>(as always, I welcome reasoned, non-hostile dissension) My take on the
>>issue is that a) he did it of his own free will (the record companies
>>and he both agreed that now corporate pressure was brought to bear) b) he
>>did it in response to a group of people who said that they would prefer it
>>if he didn't advocate their death (ie police officers.....)
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>I heard (on the tv news report where I heard about this whole thing) that
>Ice-T did it in repsonse to a group of people who advocated HIS death, ie
>police officers, etc. who gave him repeated death threats. Whether or not
>this is fantasy, I dont know, but its very likely. Death threats are pretty
>common to those who do anything controversial.
I don't know if this is why he pulled the record, but I read a couple days ago
that a policemen's union had threatened to sue him for damages anytime a cop
died anywhere in the us. This is the kind of action that I talked about before,
that tries to coercively prevent free speech without violating the first   
amendment. 

>
>I think the whole stink about Ice-T was that he was BLACK and did a song about
>killing cops. I mean, there was (is? dont listen to punk myself) a punk band
>called MDC--Millions of Dead Cops, and they certainly never attracted such
>widespread media attention. Of course, they werent on Time/Warner records,
>either....
>
>-rob
Racism? In the USA? No!
andy

>
From: direwolf@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Kathy Watts)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: In defense of the Gores
Date: 26 Jul 92 06:51:09 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena

In article <14hd7hINN88u@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> ST702459@brownvm.brown.edu (Jordan Schwartz) writes:
>Aside from all the other issues involved in a free speech debate, I think
>this is the most important thing to keep in mind: We must not let our
>opinions of whether or not Tipper Gore is a goody-goody, a righteous
>woman, or a fanatic to negatively effect the aspirations of the Clinton/

>Gore ticket. It is our only hope to get our sorry ass country out of the

Sorry.  Just 'cause you don't like the Rep's lies doesn't mean that the Dem's
lies are the things you should believe!

None of these professional power-mongers is gonna get this country's ass out of
the ....

If we can't judge these SOBs as mere people, how can we judge them at all?

-direwolf
			"Lost one round
			 But the price wasn't anything,
			 A knife in the back,
			 And more of the same,
			 Same old..."
								-R. Hunter
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