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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 1993 19:27:16 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      snail addresses
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i have this hoard of blonde babe postcards that are almost antiques....but i
lack the snail addresses of torkel and karsten and some others.....so they
will miss out....do they wanna miss a card that BERNARD is getting?
and GRAHAM???   and Ruth????

cyclops
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Touchtones and Alternative Librarians
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> On Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:15:00 EST gilbertsmith said:
> >needs and interests.  Which of these, I ask, is potentially the
> >*dumbest* idea?  I have heard from an only marginally reliable
> >source that George (of George and Franz) is the first to subscribe
> >to the second list.
>
> why is it dumb?  or does it only make sense to have a list for gay/les
> spanish profs?
>
> dan the cyclops

I don't know why it is dumb.  It just is.  Now, GAY-LES-SPAN-L is
a different matter.  Where does that one live?  I deserves my
<input>, I'm sure.
--ggs
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Date:         Sat, 2 Jan 1993 21:57:10 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Happy New Year!
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              02 Jan 93 20:49:53 +0000. <9301022051.AA24282@sics.se>

  ><evil smile>  Good - maybe it will inspire some really *good* invective!

  One of the few things even more boring than invective is inane prattling
about how interesting good invective is. Also, expressions like "<evil
smile>" irresistibly suggest to me a weak simper on the face of the person
who produces them.
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:26:00 PST
From:         Emily Horning <ECZ5EJH%UCLAMVS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: Red Line Story

> :::urp::  Yeccch...let me guess, it comes standard with pineapple slices,
> :doesn't it?
>
> That's certainly an option, yes.

Anyone who would put *fruit* on a pizza is....wait a minute, this is Graham,
right? Never mind.

> G

Emily
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From:         Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik <amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Curses Soiled Again (was Re: Deep beliefs)
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On Tue, 22 Dec 1992, Brad Baxter wrote:

> >I rather think that all of a sudden, the oath "Jesus Christ!" out of
> >someone's mouth might not sound so bad.
> >
> Jesus and his mother, Mary, were sitting in there home when Jesus
> jumped up, ran outside and asked his father, "Dad, did you
> call me?"  Joseph replied, "No, son, I just hit my thumb with the
> hammer."

In a Bill Cosby routine, he said that he and his brother Russell thought
their names were Jesus Christ and Dammit, respectively, because of the way
their father would address them.  One day Bill was out playing in the rain
and his father said, "Dammit, will you get in here!!"

To which Bill replied, "No, Dad, I'm Jesus Christ!"  :)

-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------
"Queens never make bargains."  -- The Red Queen, _Through the Looking Glass_
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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 26 Dec 1992 04:51:56 GMT
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In a previous article, torkel@SICS.SE () says:

> >Torkel, would it perhaps be the chain that is placed over the shoulders
> >and then down the chest and is attached to handcuffs or steel wrist cuffs?
>
>  No, that's ruled out by the context. It would appear, from what Karen
>says, that it's most likely a religious medallion or something hanging
>around his neck, with "scapular" having more of a historical sense.
>
I know you told me not to guess, but this is too good to pass up. Besides,
I don't take orders from men I've never met, not matter how cute they are.:-)
A "Scapular" in the religious sense is also a kind of monk's robe.  Could this
be a special kind of rosary, maybe?  It sounds like one; the ones I see in
the stores here are often beaded chains with crucifixes on them.  As another
meaning for "scapular" is a "medal of office", it seems like a pretty good
guess to me.....:-)  
-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
	      Where anything can happen, and it usually does
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Touchtones and Alternative Librarians
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Graham, is 'peefect sense' what one has when there 'aim is true'? :-)

Carolyn
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 1993 16:06:38 EST
From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Croning again
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              at Jan 3, 93 2:46 pm

> That reminds me of something I heard not long ago about the editor of a
> short story anthology who got furious when she discovered that one of the
> contributors was male.  She had asked for "stories written from the female
> point of view."  A male, who happened to use his initials instead of a full
> name, submitted a story from a female point of view.  It was accepted.  Then
> he was accused of dishonesty.


The author wrote about it in the _About Men_ Section of the Sunday NYT
Magazine 3 or 4 weeks ago.  He had an "ambiguous" first name (don't remember
the name now).  The editor addressed him as "Dear xxxx", and not Ms. xx in
all their correspondence, so the author never realized the editor's error.
He called the editor after seeing a blurb of the anthology!!

-rashmi
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 12:39:08 EST
From:         Brad Baxter <BBAXTER@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Curses Soiled Again (was Re: Deep beliefs)

>        I occasionally put myself on a crusade to clean up my langauge
>(hard to believe I know).  I find that "Glory" works as a good enough
>substitute for "God" or "Jesus".  Yeah, it sounds a little hokey, but
>just about anything does in place of the usuals.  "Filthin'" works as
>a pretty good substitute, also.
>--
>Rita Rouvalis                                Electronic Frontier Foundation

My wife likes, "Oh, bother!"  I tend to say, "Oh dear," which gets
chuckles from associates.

* Alt-Brad *
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 13:41:44 EST
From:         ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: Ink-bottle design
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Posted on 21 Dec 1992 at 12:57:14 by BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
>Is there some advantage to this design -- the fact that it has
>that small dam between the two reservoirs?

I used to think that all ink bottles were built this way--till I bought
my present bottle of ink.  The advantage is that you don't stick the
pen so far down in that your fingers get all ucked up when you go to
write.

Karen
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From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      Re: Let the sniping begin!

> Too bad you have hope to give up ...

: What does *this* mean?

Boy Clinton was born in Hope and raised in Hot Springs.  He's been
pushing the "hope" angle all fall; Hot Springs, on the other hand,
is a sleazy resort.

Steve Karlson
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 08:58:42 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Electronic Literacy
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> Oh God, we've unmasked the Prep-H spy at last :-(

BS.  Nothing in what Peter was talking about is related to the Prep-H
project -- except perhaps that lists like WORDS-L provide interesting data.
I'm also interested in those questions, Peter.  I think it's a bit extreme
to predict the demise of formal documents, though.  Lawyers, e.g., will no
doubt remain formal.  And even some e-mailers are now and will probably
continue to be careful and formal.  The careful and formal e-mailers don't
last long on WORDS-L, of course, since by the time they finish cogitating
and carefully composing, the thread of discussion is long gone.

Speaking of Prep-H, is anything still going on?  I unsubbed from the "secret
list" many moons ago and from CMC a while later.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sat, 2 Jan 1993 23:56:00 PST
From:         Emily Horning <ECZ5EJH%UCLAMVS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: The Monaco of Bavaria

> Even the names appear to be unrelated.  Munich (Monachium in late Latin)
> means "home of the <Benedictine> monks," while Monaco comes from the
> temples the Phoenicians and Greeks erected to Heracles, whose local surname
> Monoecus may be derived from a pre-Indo-European root 'mon' meaning
> raised site or rock.  (Encycl. Brit.)

According to my Webster's Geographical Dictionary, Monaco is best known for
tourism and a gambling casino (only one?). Munich certainly draws tourists,
but that can't be the reason for the comparison - are there casinos in Munich?
Grand-prix?

Anybody have a Baedeker's handy?

> brad

Emily
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 07:26:21 EST
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      1993 Calendar
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My colleague Mark Ingram (known to lurk occasionally on Words-L) gave me
my Christmas present yesterday -- a Claudia Schiffer calendar, shot on
the island of St. Barth's!  (I will consult my atlas later.)  I think
I have a spot right here -- yes! -- above my pc.  Perfect.

For some reason, this calendar includes all the holidays of Australia
and New Zealand, so I may be doing some multiculturally diverse celebrating
next year.  I will surely need Carolyn's help with some of these occasions.
Just to take an example at random -- The Queen's Birthday:

   7 June  -  New Zealand
  14 June  -  Australia -- all states except Western Australia
  27 Sept. -  Western Australia

I count at least five different Labour Days, two Australia Days, two
ANZAC days....

Setting nomail and heading out for Mississippi.  Farewell, friends,
until the turn of the year.

brad
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 12:02:15 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: inventing a label
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It was Heathrow. This is such a strange feeling...the typical
disjointedness always associated with air travel joined with the
body-clock confusion of seeing two sunrises in 24 hours. Sun goes down
here about 4:30 pm, they oughta do something about that.

Everything so far has been "same yet different." Same language, sort of,
but whacked expressions for everything. Where there should be "Exit," we
see "Way out." Obviously the Berkeleyan 60's never hit here. They have
public phones, but most of them don't take coins and you have to get this
little overpriced credit card to use them.

I was just in an antique bookstore, saw a couple of volumes for Mother,
took them to counter--the bright-eyed, fetchingly long haired angrogene
manning the cash register replies "95 pounds." Ha and ha again. But I did
consider, just for the briefest moment, asking if he had a real stand-up
shower in his house...

The European Community thang seems to be embraced only reluctantly.
Airport had special, more desirable ways of treating international
travelers, but signage directing EC travelers was sometimes a handlettered
piece of cardboard taped over an existing sign.

The English do not share our fascination with multiculturalism, and I've
been amused to note the start I've had upon realizing that there *is no
Spanish version* of directions on signage.

It's Ney Year's Eve now, way wicked dark, and I had thought there would be
something akin to Times Square going on, but this place is deader than a
doornail. lt's cold and unfamiliar, and I'm having a low grade case of
fan-tods and wondering yet again why I strayed from the blessed
burnt-brown cattle pastures of Texas.

Too soon to have had my Perfect Moment yet. You can never tell when those
scamps are going to sneak up on you, but I have high hopes for when I see
the Turners and Constables at the British Museum.

Judith, you'll take special notice of the fact that, yes, the bowels are
making themselves <known> again, but in the nicest possible way...have
already received stern warnings from GT to Flush Early; Flush Often.

Note to myself: quit trying to educate the entire UK regarding the natural
superiority of American customs.

Aww, forget that, we *are* superior...of course I have an obligation...

More later,
-abh
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jan 1993 17:59:26 -0500
From:         fribble%rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk%kate.ibmpcug.co.uk@KATE.IBMPCUG.CO.UK
Subject:      This ere t-shirt
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I just wanted to know how to get hold of one of these ere t-shirts (
the WORDS-L one that I have seen a certainmildly high-profile member
of this list wearing).

Any chance of getting one Ane before you go back ;)

--- fizzy the newbie.
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 01:26:41 GMT
From:         Graham Toal
              <gtoal%rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk%kate.ibmpcug.co.uk@KATE.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Say Something To Jeffrey
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:> >Just last night we were talking about the fact that Bernard's attempted
:> >rapes of Jeffrey aren't as frequent as they used to be.
:>
:> He was probably feeling satiated by my sweatshirt sleeve...

:Hmmm.  Was his rape of your sweatshirt sleeve before or after he joined
:you in bed?
:   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Errr.... I can't *wait* to hear how Judith fills in the 'contact card'
at the clinic in the morning.

G
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From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      Re: Goofing off Saturday
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: Stevie's Visa bill is coming to town!

Master Card and American Express, actually.

: Did you ask Santa for anything good this year?

Eleanor Smeal to take Bill Clinton to task.  Christmas came early :-)

Steve Karlson

A cheesehead by chance, a conservative by choice.  Go Packers!
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Santa Claus
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>Unlike Nancy, who spilled the beans to Susan herself, *my* daughter had
>the unpleasant truth delivered by her first grade teacher, who not only
>told the class there was no Santa, but that there was no tooth fairy, no
>Easter bunny, and no telling what else.  This mother was in overdrive big
>time when I learned this.
>
>doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)

I'd have been upset about that too - fortunately Helen has just finished
first grade and the Principal arranged for Santa to visit the school and talk
to all the children in the infants department. He brought the Primary School
children a bag of lollies each, but they didn't get to talk to him personally
... he did however pick up their mail for him.

I still haven't confirmed to any of my children, including the 21 year old
that there is 'no Santa'.... and I guess I never will.

Carolyn
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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Subject:      No more mail?

Seems like something not working ..... but no problem! .... still have
about another 100 or so delightful posts from Graham  ..... sure makes
me appreciate just about everybody else's posts!

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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Date:         Sat, 26 Dec 1992 04:01:47 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Deep beliefs
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>   Really? I don't quite know how to reconcile this with your account
> of your careful theological discussions. Are you now saying that you
> normally don't care if you give offense in stating your opinions?

Quite the contrary. When occasion warrants I do my best never to give
offense. I simply don't concern my self with the value judgements
people place on my thinking. To do other wise would be to be a slave
of everyone else's opinions. Is that a position you are advocating?
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jan 1993 01:39:05 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Job Corps
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> From: samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU

> By the way, who gives these imbeciles permission to change the book?

International copyright agreements make the various foreign publishers
virtual Czars over their aquisitions.

> Doesn't the author have some control?

Perhaps only with the original publisher, depending on the contract the
author is able to work out. Lots of first time authors sell their souls
to get their work in print. After that it's too late to recover the
lost ground.

Pm
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jan 1993 18:06:47 EST
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      English peas
              1 Jan 1993 16:38:38 CST from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

>  English peas are relatively small and green.
>The best ones are the smallest ones.  Even the smallest ones are a bit
>larger than lady peas.  But they're smaller than crowder peas or black-eyed
>peas.

   Where do purple-hulls fit into your taxonomy?

   Here is something from the Britannica that may throw some light on
   the name:

   The garden or English pea and field pea (Pisum sativum) are cool
   season plants that cannot tolerate hot weather.  Garden peas have
   been developed to their highest perfection in England, where they
   can be grown all summer.  The best English varieties are not adapted
   to the warmer climate of the US, and the principal varieties grown
   in the US are inferior in quality to the best English varieties.
   Peas can be grown in the lower latitudes  (such as the southern US)
   only as late fall, winter, or early spring crops....

   Are southern varieties cowpeas?  The Britannica suggests that these
   are more properly called beans.

   I bet the DARE would have something to say about the naming
   convention, if there were any libraries open today.

   brad
From: ll23%nemomus@academic.nemostate.edu (Karen Kay)
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Posted on 26 Dec 1992 at 20:21:30 by LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
>What's the status of blackberry vines where you are? Here, they're considered
>a 'noxious weed' and we're not allowed to grow them in our backyards.

Who 'doesn't allow' it????  That sounds so bizarre to me!

Karen
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In article <1hbgreINN154@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu writes...
>
>In a previous article, ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU () says:
>
>>Posted on 23 Dec 1992 at 16:27:19 by Aaron L Dickey
>>>I didn't say you should be happy to put up with such crap, just that the
>>>downside of attractiveness is, IMHO, a small price to pay for all the
>>>doors it opens up in society.
>>
>>More bullshit.  Aaron, what's unattractive about you is not your looks
>>but your personality.
>>
>I have absolutely no idea what you look like Aaron, but given the way you've
>been talking lately, I wouldn't go out wih you either.  Physical attractiveness
>is a factor, but I know a lot of people the world wouldn't consider
>"attractive" who are a)happily married, b)engaged, or c)have very active
>social lives.  As long as a person doesn't have a truely horrible B.O. [IMHO]
>a person's looks really have little to do with it.  *Real*, long-term
>attractiveness is from the inside.  A woman I've known since childhood is
>getting married in February - she's 80, and the groom is older.  Do you think
>either of them look like Richard Gere or Cindy Crawford?  Neither ever did
>to begin with, but they found something in each other that made both
>decide to tie the knot again.  I have news for you, it's not his magnificent
>physique she fell for.:-)

I find degree of physical attractiveness to be very subjective.  The longer
I know and like a person the more likely I am to think of that person as
attractive and vice versa with those I find unlikeable.


Carol
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