From: bill@rchland.vnet.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: Females have it easy!
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:15:57 GMT
Reply-To: bill@tran.fishkill.ibm.com ()
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <1grgmiINNq52@agate.berkeley.edu>,
monaghn@garnet.berkeley.edu (Mara Monaghan) writes:
> *************************************************
> I'm sorry for my first version being such a mess.
> I was trying a new (to me) news (mac based) program
> and it looked fine when I read it using that program,
> but it came out as gobblty gook on the net. Mea Culpa
> ************************************************** 
> 
> In article <1992Dec17.154039.14407@cbfsb.cb.att.com>,
> > sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein) writes:
> 
>   > >In article <JoeMan.7.724562272@> JoeMan@ (Joe Tooman) writes:
>   > >Not to bitch or anything, but it seems to me that the
>   > >female does not have any problem finding a guy anytime
>   > >she feels like she wants a relationship.
> 
> Well! I do have the amazing ability to find good cafes,
> open parking spaces, and dark chocolate, but I never 
> realized that other women can find a guy anytime they
> want a relationship! No wonder I haven't had a SO 
> (or even a date) in 4 yrs. Ack! I'm handicapped!
> 
> 
>   > >As a guy, I find that it is very hard to find
>   > >a female that seems intrested.
>   > >Joe Tooman aa422@cleveland.freenet.edu 
> 
> Interested in you (as a person) or in going out with
> you.  Some of us female types prefer knowing a guy 
> before going out on a "date."  It might be your 
> technique is wrong for the females you find interesting.
> 
> 
> > 
> > I have also found this to be somewhat true, BUT,
> > 
> > although women do seem to be approached on a
> > sometime daily or weekly basis, their problem
> > is weeding through all the offers for a man who
> > meets their standards.
> >
> 
> The only weeding I do on a weekly basis is
> in my front yard.  I haven't found a guy yet.
> Perhaps I should've planted bachelor buttons :-)
>  
> > atleast with us guys, we only approach those we
> > already feel interested in knowing.  
> >
> I think this topic is already being addressed in
> another thread, so I'll skip it 
> 
> >
> > In other words, women may have to deal with 20 men
> > before she is approached by one she's attracted to,
> > whereas we could luck out after the 8th or 9th approach.
> > 
> 
> First a quibble about your choice of words:
> I think of "deal" as having a negative connotation.
> (My Webster's dictionary defines this usage as:
> "to take action with regard to someone or something,
> ex. to deal with an offender").
> *I* don't use "deal" when I referring to people
> because I don't like the cold image it projects.
> 
> Back to the matter at hand:
> (I do hope you're not serious, but if you are...)
> 
> Your generalizations are inaccurate for
> the "average woman.  This is, of course,
> my humble opinion and is based on my own 
> past experience and that of my friends.
> (BTW I am including our years as college
> students).  None of us would make the 
> cover of Vogue, but we are attractive,
> intelligent women.
> 
> So if your generalization is wrong
> (re: weekly offers) and the women you
> "approach" are not overwhelmed with other
> offers, why are you having to approach 8
> or 9 women before you "luck out" ?

Time out, here. Mara, your observations are based on your experiences,
as Steve's are on his. Maybe the dating situation (and general social
protocal ?) are vastly different where each of you live. Where I live
here, most of my female friends are approached at LEAST once or twice a
week. A friend of mine lives in Wisconsin, and she hasen't been asked
out or apporached in months. Don't bash the guy until you understand his
local dating climate.


> (BTW, what do you mean by "approaching",
> "luck out", and "offers"? Just curious)
> I think this ties into my earlier comment
> about the technique being inappropriate for
> the women involved.  Are you trying get to
> know them or just pick 'em up?
> 
> >               Steve Stein  (609) 639-2264
> >  *******************************************************
> >  *  Just my opinion, though it could change tomorrow   *
> >  *******************************************************         
> 
> Mara   (Of course I *could* be wrong about the "offer"
> a week thing and with one week left in the year,I
> *could* be "approached" by 52 men who want to make
> me an "offer" and "luck out." I wonder if having them
> fill out applications would be too tacky?

No, if you were wrong, you wouldn't have to resort to applications, but
you would become MUCH more discriminating when it comes to dating. 

> Ooh, I better buy more egg nog and cups!

Naw, if you lived around here, you'd reuqest the guy to pick up the tab
for the egg nog.	

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> 

bill the cat....