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From: midnight@mdnite.enet.dec.com (Dr. Midnight)
Subject: Re: Jim and Homage Studios
Reply-To: midnight@mdnite.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:19:42 GMT



 >         I've kept on forgetting to post this, so don't flame me if
 > it's a repeat, but when Jim Lee left X-Men, I started collecting
 > WildCats.  On the inside of the back cover of issue #2, there is
 > an add from Jim, Sco, etc a about Homage Studios.  A lot of
 > friends and I have speculated among ourselves over what this is
 > all about.  I'd greatly appreciate any information anyone could
 > share about this.  (I'm trying to get a friend to send some of his
 > artwork in).


As a bit of trivia, the address posted in that ad in the back of WildCats is a
"Mailboxes USA" type address.  (Yes, I looked, out of sheer curiousity).  It
intrigues me that the address is also located in a suburb of San Diego I spent
a great deal of my life in.  I can't imagine Jim Lee or any of the others
living in that particular development.  It's changed quite a bit over the
years.


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From: haughwt@sccm.stanford.edu (James Haughwout)
Subject: Re: Super Strength
Organization: Scientific Computing/Computational Mathematics, Stanford
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:57:55 GMT

BTW, you could also say that Juggy thinks he's so strong thaat he doesn't 
hit as hard as he can--until he gets really pissed.  You could also say that the good guys, like Colossus, are to nice to hit as hard as they could...unless
he's pissed off by Mikhail's suicide (like in X-Song part 1).

Jim
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From: REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Rebecca Drayer)
Subject: Re: Mutant Crossovers
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 17:17:27 EST

In article <102151@netnews.upenn.edu>
dmcclue@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Patrick McClue) writes:
 
>
>Slight correction:
>
>Storm never went through the seige perilous...she was captured by Nanny before
>the others went through.
 
Question: Is Nanny the same as Magneto's robot "Nanny" that showed up around
UXM #112 or so?  This was the robot that took care of the X-Men while they
were imprisoned in chairs that blocked their voluntary control of their
bodies and powers.
 
 
 
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From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Re: BISHOP AS TRAITOR? NOT!!
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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 04:19:15 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.010034.8466@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c60c-3gg@web-4e.berkeley.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.195012.29811@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> aj005b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Hulk like snow!) writes:
>>In article <92343.202234MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu> MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu (mark
rieker) writes:
>>>      Now then, remember in Jean's telecast she says "Cable?...Alex?...
>>>  I don't know if this is getting through....." Remember that? If Cable was
>>>  attacking, or Stryfe disguised as Cable, Jean wouldn't try calling him up
>>>  now would she? Hmm?  Try again.
>>
>>	That was a classic example of an editing error.  At the time Bishop
>>came about, Cable was the leader of X-Force and Alex (Havok) was the leader
>>of X-Factor.  Jean was simply calling all the leaders of the mutant teams
>>(like the Fantastic Four, Avengers, and New Warriors couldn't help any).
>>Since Cable is no longer the leader of X-force (thank goodness), the future
>>that Bishop knows has already changed.  If the X-Force annual #1 was any
>>hint, Sam will be Cable's replacement for a long while.

Why does it have to be an editing error? Either:

a) Cable rejoins X-Force at some point (remember his final words to Domino
before X-Song: "Help them through this! Tell them -- I'll be back!")

b) Cable remains in contact with the X-Teams after leaving
(especially after X-Song, now that Cyclops realizes that Cable could be
his son) Wouldn't it make sense to contact _anybody_ that could lend a
helping hand?

c) This script was worked on, and aprroved, before the decision to drop
Cable permanently (?) from the X-Force lineup.

(Okay, the last one could be considered an editing error...)

Jay (=
From: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
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Subject: Re: Maddy Pryor's first appearance
Date: 14 Dec 1992 05:00:52 GMT
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In article <1992Dec10.062522.14621@news.columbia.edu> jmw20@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Joshua Michael Wolf) writes:
)Claremont put her in
)AA #10 because he knew someone with the name (or thought it was a good name I
)can't remember).  The newer Maddy Pryor's name choice is coincidental...
)Claremont liked the name.

	Madelynne Prior is the name of the lead singer of the folk-rock
group Steeleye Span, which Claremont likes. Recall that in the Genoshan
interrogation scene that's been referred to, Maddy sings "Gone to America".
This is one of Steeleye Span's best-known songs. (It was also somewhat
relevant to the storyline, but only tangentially.)

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From: rmaddy@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD M ADDY)
Subject: Re: the X-Traitor
Originator: rmaddy@c00508-119rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: rmaddy@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD M ADDY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:28:40 GMT


In article <1992Dec11.110517.18390@husc3.harvard.edu>, rramirez@husc9.harvard.edu (Robert Ramirez) writes:

|>
|>>I'm still of the opinion that Psylocke is being possessed by the White
|>>Queen.  As someone mentioned a while back, after that incident, Psylocke
|>>no longer had any thought bubbles (well, until Executioner's Song, anyway).
|>>
|>>
|>>Let's see ... "More so than any of your students, I understand what you're
|>>going through.." she thinks at the unconscious Xavier.  Could be a remark
|>>about the Hand, as Robert Ramirez points out, but could equally apply to
|>>the White Queen.  Besides, I still cluth the shreds of hope that the Hellions
|>>will be back.  After all, Tarot died twice, didn't she?  She could come back.
|>>Really!  
|>
|>Wait a second!  When was PSYLOCKE possessed by the White Queen?  I thought
|>the White Queen's host was JEAN GREY (back in Uncanny X-Men #282).  I don't
|>recall Psylocke even having _encountered_ the White Queen.  Can someone
|>confirm this?
|>
|>(Not to burst your bubble or anything, Richard!  :)  )
|>
|>Peace,
|>
|>R ^ 3
|>(otherwise known as Brass Cajones)

Well, someone else started this theory, and it still makes sense to me.  I mean,
as a recap, both the White Queen and Jean get blasted by the Sentinels, and
both apparently die. Jean transfers her consciousness into the White Queen's
body.  Prof X, on hearing that Jean is dead (again) scoffs, as he would have
felt it through the mind link.  He also mentions that it's strange that he
hadn't felt the death of the White Queen, which he thought he would have, since
she was so powerful a telepath.  The X-Men recover Jean and Prof. X performs
the brain (or is it personality) transplant, so that Jean is back in her
regular body.  During the process, Forge sets up a screening device to keep
any pesky espers from interfering, but it overloads, so he can't so much as
detect intervention during the operation.  Afterwards, Prf X says something
along the lines that he could have sworn he felt something else, but nothing is
resolved.  Anyway, Psylocke begins to act strangely and looses the thought
bubbles. 

Probably, it's just my unwillingness to lose the best dressed telepath on Earth
that keeps me clinging to this theory.  After all, Jean transplanted herself
what, five feet? into the White Queen's body.  The White Queen would have had to
go a bit further to get to Betsy.

Anyway, has it been established who would win a contest between Jean and the
White Queen?  Phoenix beat Emma hands down, but I don't rememeber the toned-
down Jean ever fighting the White Queen.

Still hoping!
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From: magnus@IASTATE.EDU (Coinspinner)
Subject: Stryfe's Legacy: X-Death 
Reply-To: magnus@IASTATE.EDU (Coinspinner)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:02:31 GMT


	A friend of mine has pointed out some very interesting hints at the future, and
not some wild-time line stuff.  The last Issue of X-Song had the cannister that
supposedly held the Summer's DNA opened.  (Asside from the fact that Sinister
traded the real thing (Cyclops) for this stuff)  A gass is seen to pour out of
it and affect the muntant that "psionically" opened it.  This mutant proceeds to
immeditiatly start coughing.

	Next refer to Stryfe's Strike Files on the various X-People.  For Moria Stryfe
talks about his Legacy that will be "eating away the mutants from the inside"
and that she will once again have to be jumbling genetics in order to try and
save them.  Flip over to Beast's entry and we find that for some unknown reason,
he alone will be unaffected by this virus and will have to place his intellect
to save his "brothers and sisters" i.e. MUTANTS.

  It would appear that Stryfe somehow knew of his failure to finish the X-Men,
since the data recovered from his base referes to all these people and events,
some that he personally engineered, which are to occur after his defeat.  One of
these challenges appears to be some type of virus that will supposedly affect
only mutants.  Unforturnatly I don't have this issue in front of me, but piecing
together the last issue and these Strike files and I think you'll see what he's
getting at.
From: paladin@yaya.WPI.EDU (Ever Shifting Bearlike Being...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Rogue - Danvers - powers
Date: 13 Dec 1992 21:55:12 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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>I believe in UX 192 (The one with the Magus on the cover, someone check the
>exact issue number) Nightcrawler started tickling and teleporting around 
>Rogue.  She had a seventh sense flash, predicted where Nightcrawler was going
>to appear, and hit him in the stomach. Does anyone know about the costume?
>I don't.

	this is another one of my general observations.. not nescessarily a 
	flame on you in particular... tho if you feel the need flame me.......

  try reading the rest of a thead before posting about it.. it is a waste for
  people to keep posting the same information two, three or more times...
	the questions were answered at least three times (if i recall correctly
  the only thing you added was an issue number which was not in my original 
  post but was in at least one follow-up... 

	it (as well as this post) are a waste of bandwidth... 

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From: donald@dvinci.USask.Ca (David Donald)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Bishop
Date: 15 Dec 1992 23:19:42 GMT
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chak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Chak the Destroyer) writes:

>  You are assuming that were Bishop the traitor, he would be so incredibly
>stupid as to attack them in a group.  Were he to do it at all, I would
>assume he would divide and conquer, and use the element of surprise.
>Let me submit a possible scneario.

>[Blue Team is away on a mission.]

>Bishop: [Knock's on the Prof. X's door] Hello?
>Prof. X: [Opens door.] What?
>Bishops: Forget it. [Squashes the bald guy's head.]
>Jean Grey: OH MY GOD!  PROF. X IS DEAD!  X-MEN ASSEMBLE!
>[All the X-Men meet in the library.]
>Storm: Bishop and I will go in the basement! Blah, blah...give orders.
>[X-Men go in search of baddies.]
>Bishop: [Alone with Storm.] Lightning bolt me in case there is trouble.
>Storm: Ok. [Lightning bolts Bishop, Bishop is powered up now.]
>Bishop: Thanks. [Squashes Storm's head.] [Over comlink] We're under attack.

>Repeat scenario for each X-Men.

>          
>Matt Somers

Nope.  Won't work.  The last think Charles would broadcast would be the identity of his killer, likely in surprise.  Jean would get this.  Thus, the entire 
team would attack an un-powered up Bishop and beat the crap out of him.  Or, 
Jean might just "turn him off" as she did a villian not too long ago.

Dave
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From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Re: Think only Gambit survives? WRONG!!
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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 01:49:36 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.091741.3516@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> nieboer@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Doctor Gonzo) writes:
>
>	Remember in UXM 284 (?) when Bishop visits the Witness, or Gambit,
whatever, and he is confronted by a cloaked woman with only
>her slightly Asian-looking eyes visible? Her name is Shackle. Bear
>a resemblance to any other X-Man's name?
>
>Here's a hint: a shackle is part of a lock, or a locke if you prefer.

Intersting theory...
btw, it's UNCANNY X-MEN 287 (I think... I _hate_ not having my comics here
when I post) and Shackle had only one eye exposed. She also had a metal
knife; not the "psychic dagger" Psylocke carries. I just think that she's a
mutant from that time who serves LeBeau.

One thing I don't like about Guardians of the Galaxy and the 2099 series
is the desire to have either future counterparts of every existing
Marvel character, or a reason as to how they could survive. I mean,
Hercules and Thor are immortals, as well as Silver Surfer and all of
Galactus' heralds (immortal meaning "will not die", not "cannot be killed".
The Herald Ordeal in SILVER SURFER shows that heralds can be killed.)

But I mean, why does Peter Parker _have_ to have a descendant that grows
up to be a new Spider-Man? (I realize that's not S-M 2099's origin, but it
was suggested in GOTG) Why does a character from 100, 1000, or 2000 years
ago have to have a future counterpart? Would anybody really care to see the
31st-century Water Wizard?

My big complaint is, especially with early issues of GOTG, many such
appearance are either to increase sales of a given issue, or to please the
fanboys. I don't think they should have had the Spirit of Vengeance in
GOTG until they had an idea of what Ghost Rider's origin is.

This post may seem off-mark, but the concept that Psylocke _has_ to be
alive because one of the Witness' servants might look like her is a little
absurd. X-Men can die -- and should stay dead when they do.

Besides, can anyone actually believe Betsy to be subservient to LeBeau?
From: mjo@iao.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
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Subject: Re: What is Wolverine's mutant power?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 19:52:54 GMT
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In article <1gntjuINNc5@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mikecap@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael
Vince Caprio Jr) writes:

:Oh, C'mon.  Everbody knows Wolverine's mutant power is LASER CLAWS, from the
:X-Men video Game....

"Magneto is not here.  Magneto is in another place.  GO X-MEN!"

Lovely game.

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From: REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Rebecca Drayer)
Subject: Re: Omega Red and the next issue of XM (not U-XM)
Organization: Yale University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 18:56:24 EST

In article <1992Dec16.093924.1@tesla.njit.edu>
pvs8496@tesla.njit.edu writes:
 
>
>I was looking into the Marvel Requirer, and in the next issue of X-Men
>(not U-XM) Cyclops, Jean Grey, and Colossus meet Omega Red in Russia.
>My question, the last time they tangled with him, he sort of did a fadeaway
>and the story ended with Wolvie taking off Matsuo Tsurayaba's hand and
>handing over the carborundum synthesizer over to Maverick, anybody have any
>clues what happens to O-Red between then and now? Conjectures, etc.
 
I heard that Illyana will be involved in this issue.  Can anyone confirm or
deny?
 
 
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From: wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (August Paul Yang)
Subject: Re: Rogue's Powers
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:23:59 GMT

In article <BzA8BB.Ey6@ns1.nodak.edu> dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes:
>>(hmmm.. is colosus the only one who has been accidently absorbed?)
>
>Okay, so I've now been notified that I've forgotten all *two* of Rogue's
>accidental absorbtions.
Boy, it seems that the main posts I answer these days are DHenry's.  Ah
well.  In any case, I *think* Rogue's second accidental absorption
was the Revear Bone Breaker.  Or is that Bone Crusher?  In any case,
the idiot Revear grabbed her when her costume was in shreads and
was "absorbed" by Rogue.  Neither wanted it to happen.  In fact, I remember
Rogue saying something along the lines of "I WANT YOUR HEART!" in relation
to Bone Beaker (no, she didn't want him to fall in love with her...)
I wouldn't worry about the faulty memory, David.  Just remove the faulty
part and kick it around for a while.  That should fix it's hash.

>That's it, I quit. Scav, the Stripe is yours.
August Paul Yang wonders, since he remembered the second absorption could he
have the Stripe?
wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
P.S.  Rob Leifeld, if he was in charge of Rogue, would probably rename her
(wait for it....)
STRYPE!
(August ducks and covers before the tomatoes fly)
From: j_fitzge@oz.plymouth.edu (Jesse L. Fitzgerald)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Stupidest Mutant Power -- top this if you can!
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:39:44 GMT
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, NH.


	I've also had a character on Champions that could blow himself
up, his name was Suicide. He was able to blow himself up when ever he
wanted but if he did so too much it would eventually die. He would
have to rest after every explosion because it would drain his life
energy. He was able to take any fraction of his life energy, except
100%, and explode, obviously the more life energy he used the longer
he would have to recooperate. Needless to say, he was one of my most
favorite character's until finally one day a Telepath took over his
mind and blew him up, 100% Life Energy, he died and took out an area
the size of Boston. Only two people were left standing. Exploding
oneself is kinda a neat power, try it in your next Marvel/Champions
Campaign. They can get you out of a variety of jams.

						Jesse Fitzgerald
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From: chak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Chak the Destroyer)
Subject: Re: Mutant Crossovers
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:43:00 GMT

In article <16DEC199222160484@udel.edu> jdelisle@udel.edu (J. G. Delisle) writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.002611.25734@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, aj005b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Hulk like snow!) writes...
>>In article <BzA80x.7ov@ns1.nodak.edu> dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
>>writes:
>>>>Storm fought Cyclops, not Colossus, for theleadership, and that was in >X-Men #201. Professor X was not, at that time,
>> 
>>	Did Storm literally fight Cyclops hand to hand, or did they just
>>have a powerstruggle.  If it was really a fight, I couldn't imagine Cyclops
>>bein to happy with the current X-men situation.
>
>	It was one-on-one combat in the Danger Room, which had been set up
>to look like an abandoned city. Storm didn't have her powers, and she 
>managed to use Cyclops' powers against him (didn't he nearly collapse a
>building on himself?). In the end, she yanked off his visor, so he couldn't
>open his eyes to defend himself (or attack), and won.

   The way I remember it, she tripped him with her belt, then used his own
arm as cover (put it in front of his head) while she ripped off his visor.
Cyclops, being his normal wussish self, refused to obliterate Storm, so she
won the contest.  I was rather dissapointed, as I hated (still do) Storm.
In any case, Cyclops went to Alaska, and Storm proceeded to lead the X-Men
into their greatest defeat in history.  Namely, the mutant massacre.      

Chak