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From: Bill Papp
Subject: Location of Senior PGA Events
Originator: bpapp@ox
Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:34:52 GMT


Does anyone know the names and locations of where the Senior PGA
events will played in February 1993?  The schedule published in
the latest Golf Digest only list the tournament names, not where
they are being played.

Also any information about how to get tickets would be appreciated.

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From: lareau@esmlsun.gatech.edu (Neil W. Lareau)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Boring through metal woods
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:50:58 GMT
Organization: GTRI/ESML

I've seen a couple of questions from people asking if they should bore 
through to the bottom of the Callaway style metal would heads.  The question 
comes from most of these heads offering only about 1" of insertion of the 
shaft into the hosel.

Metalwood heads are (usually) filled with polyurethane foam to damp the 
pinging.  Drilling through the hosel to the bottom of the head doesn't buy 
you anything because you will be gluing the shaft to poly foam, not metal.

You may get some benefit from the attachment to the bottom of the club 
itself, but I doubt it is worth the trouble.

I've never inspected a legitimate Callaway head, but I suspect that their 
hosel is a metal tube running through the entire head.  On the copies (
mostly Tridents), I stick with the hosel depth as it comes from the factory 
and haven't had a problem with the dozen or so I've made.

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Neil W. Lareau
Georgia Tech Research Institute			Standard Disclaimers Apply
Atlanta GA
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From: kozlowsk@acs.ucalgary.ca (Don M. Kozlowski)
Subject: How's the golfing in Cancun?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 22:12:20 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

I'll be in Cancun for the first two weeks of December. Does
anyone have any recommendations for golfing there?

-- 
Don Kozlowski	                 	Phone: (403) 220-5156
Academic Computing Services		Fax:   (403) 282-9199
The University of Calgary
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From: ear@sei.cmu.edu (Eugene Rindels)
Subject: Golf News
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:19:02 GMT


American John Morse shot a five-under-par 66 to take a one-stroke
lead after the first round of the $210,000 Australian PGA at Sydney.
Mike Colandro blew up with a triple bogey on the last hole after being 7-under
at the 16th with a chance to break the course record of 64. Colandro finished
tied for 11th at 68.

The University of North Florida in Jacksonville was selected as the site for
the 1993 NAIA National Golf Championship next June 1-4. 
 
The 1996 British Open will be at Royal Lytham & St. Annes Golf Club, St. Annes
on Sea, Lancashire.  Who is St. Annes named for?

The 1995 U.S. Amateur Public Links Championship will be held at Wailua Golf
Course, Kauai, Hawaii.  They should have electricity restored by then.  It
seems foolish to have the "Public Links Championship" in Kauai where their are
no truly public courses.  So the public links champ is for use folks who
normally spend $20 bucks on a round of golf.  The estimated cost of 4 rounds
of golf for this tournament in Kauai is $375.00.  Give me a break.  Thats like
saying PGA West is a public course....if you've got $175.00...carts included
though.  I'd rather go hit golf balls out of a cow pasture in Iowa.  In this
year of political hoopla....Lets take our game back, this is starting to get
out of hand.

Tarde, J.
	A 10-point plan to help the PGA Tour.
	Golf Digest, Vol 43, no.6: pp. 24-26, June, 1992

No. 5

The players should call for a detailed accounting of the commisioner's
compensation package.  It seems inordinately high at almost $2 million a
year, with $860,000.00 coming out of the nonprofit division.  Because the tour
so often associates itself with charity, you might be tempted to compare
Beman's income with that earned by the highest-paid executive of a non-proift
charitable organization in the country--that person makes "only"
$509,000.00--but in reality the tour has little to do with charity; The
biggest problem with commissioners income is that his employers, the players,
don't know exactly what it is or what factors go into determining his bonus.
Whatever he makes, the perks of his job are too extravagant for a nonprofit
CEO.  Since 1985, the commissioner has had five corporate planes, tow of them
jets, each one bigger and faster than the one before.  The current aircraft,
an Astra 1125, is housed in a large, new hanger in St. Augustine, Fla., which
occasionally has also stored Beman's own personal plane and his motorcycles.
Perhaps this appropriate for a commissioner of a major sport, but the players
should make that decision.

I don't get up on the soap box that often, sorry if you were looking for raw
news.  Any way if you play golf you have to be an emotional person.....maybe
emotionally unstable, unless your striking the ball really well that day.

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From: checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM (Al Conte)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Woods by Golfsmith
Date: 16 Nov 1992 20:44:45 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: flyboy.ebay.sun.com

Could someone out there post the address / phone number of Golfsimith.


thanx,

Al

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From: dmccarro@sedona.intel.com (David McCarroll)
Subject: Golfsmith
Originator: dmccarro@sedona
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:39:04 GMT


Someone requested the address for Golfsmith.....


10206 North IH-35
Austin, Texas 78753

Orders: 1-800-456-3344
Service: 1-800-925-7709
General: 512-837-4810
Fax: 512-837-1245
-- 
 Intel, Corp.
 5000 W. Chandler Blvd.
 Chandler, AZ  85226
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: beyerc@carr109.alleg.edu (Chad Beyer)
Subject: DRIVER FOR SALE
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:27:34 GMT


I HAVE A MIZUNO, GOLD SHAFT DRIVER

I JUST CAN'T HIT IT

I HAD IT FOR TWO SEASONS BUT ONLY HIT IT ABOUT 10 TIMES EVER

ANYONE WANT TO BUY IT?

9 DEGREE OF LOFT

ASKING $150

CHADWICK
From: pw@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu (Paul Wakenight)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: dos golf
Date: 17 Nov 92 04:42:11 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.golf
Organization: Columbia University, Dept. of Biological Sciences.

I am in graduate school AND in NY, so I never get to play as often as
I would like.  To tide me over, can anyone recommend a good Windows/Dos
based program (Jack Nickalus has one?).  Also, before I pay for whatever
I buy, are there demo copies avail?   

Thanks.

Paul Wakenight
From: bhoughto@sedona.intel.com (Blair P. Houghton)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Short, Shameless Plug
Date: 23 Nov 1992 20:01:22 GMT
Organization: Intel Corp., Chandler, Arizona
NNTP-Posting-Host: stealth.intel.com

The Foothills was mentioned in both GOLF Magazine and Golf
Digest this month (these may have been Western-states-only
editions).

Unfortunately, the blurb in the panel in GOLF emphasized
"desert golf", which isn't as significant the fact that
it's "housing development golf".  There's desert in-play on
every hole, sure, but it's no Boulders.  The fairways are
generally spacious, and the desert is off to the sides.  On
only a few holes is the desert in front of the tees long
enough to make an incompetent driver worried, but nowhere
is it long enough that you can't clear it with a moderate
seven-iron.  But if you go OB you're not allowed to climb
the fence to get the ball out of my backyard...

Still and all, it makes me feel pretty good to have my
course listed in that sort of company.  It means that
either the editors recognize the renewal of the course,
or the management made a significant investment in the
tourist trade.  Either way, it kills the niggling fear
I had that the course was going to be allowed to founder.

BTW, it's $75 at the peak, and the cart is mandatory (too
many hills; too many old people; several places where
you're a yards or more and a city- street-crossing between
the green and the next tee), as is wearing your collared
shirt.  The mountains look great, but my yard looks like
shit (I'll get the irrigation pipe in those ditches next
weekend; I promise 0:-)), so don't judge too harshly.

				--Blair
				  "Don't forget your sweater."
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From: strube@warp6.cs.misu.NoDak.edu (Don Strube A262 857-3018)
Subject: left handed golf supplies
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:01:56 GMT
Organization: Minot State University -- Minot, ND.

 I'll try this again.  I recently recieved a copy of Golfsmiths supplies cataglog and was disappointed to find very few left handed heads (irons, woods, and putters.  Does anyone know of another supplier that might carry more supplies for the left handed golfer.  Thanks..
From: wis@uts.amdahl.com (wis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Need help
Keywords: Putter
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:33:17 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Hi,
  I need to find out the address and phone# of Lotus golf Co.
Or If you knew any store selling Lotus Putter, please let me 
know the store phone#. Thanks.

- Widjaja
From: percival@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: PARRY FIRES IN AUSTRALIA
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:26:11 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

Craig Parry has won the 1992 Australian PGA title in Sydney.

Parry shot a final round 68 for a 15 under total winning by three
shots from Peter McWhinney with Mike Harwood and Brad Hughes a 
further shot back in third.

This was Parrys third win in Australia in 1992 with victories also in
the NSW Open and the Australian Masters earlier in 1992.


Rob Verhoeve
e-mail : percival@qut.edu.au

PS Did you know that Craig's wife, Jenny just gave birth to their first child
   which was a girl.
   
   Naturally she was named APRIL, after the month of the US Masters!!!!!

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From: rrmadiso@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Richard Madison)
Subject: Golf Mail Order Magazines
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:40:56 GMT


Hi

	I am looking for a list of Golf Mail Order Magazines from all
over the world.  If you know of any, and have a dew minutes to spare,
I would appreciate it if you mailed their phone number and address.

	Thanks in Advance,


Richard Madison
rrmadiso@napier.uwaterloo.ca
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From: federkin@rtsg.mot.com (John Federkins)
Subject: Building your own; bore-through woods
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:48:39 GMT

Has anybody out there built any bore-through metal woods?

I just received Trident Widebody 1W & 3W heads from Pro-Swing.
They're hosel-less metal heads, similar to Calloway I guess.

Being my first attempt at club building, I wasn't aware that
I had to bore through the heads myself.  I will be attaching
them to graphite shafts.  Do I really need to purchase their
counter-sink bit, or will a regular drill bit do just as well?

Also,
Must I drill all the way through the bottom of the club head?
If so, what's the best way of trimming off the bottom of the
shaft without damaging the bottom of the head?
And are hosel collars and plugs required or just there for looks?
Any other suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks,

JF
-- 
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   "The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up!"
John Federkins				Cellular Infrastructure Division
Motorola, Inc.				Arlington Heights, IL
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: wayman@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Jeffrey Wayman)
Subject: Re: Recommendations on lightweight but durable Bags?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:18:08 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <MCCARTY.92Nov18172307@aphid.add.itg.ti.com> mccarty@add.itg.ti.com (Rick McCarty) writes:
>In article <Nov18.193729.51392@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> wayman@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Jeffrey Wayman) writes:
>
>   >I've really liked the Jones bags.  They make a lot of the bags
>   >carried by college teams because they do a good job on lettering
>   >and such.  They're also *real* durable, which they need to be 
>   >for a college team because a lot of players use them over the years.
>   >The best thing I like about them is their balance.  In my opinion,
>   >balance is even more important than total weight.  A well-balanced
>   >bag can make it seem light as a feather.  There you go.
>
>Are the Jones bags the ones I referred to in my post as the PING bags?
>
>--RJMc

I don't remember your post, but Jones and Ping bags are different.
I *think* (someone correct me here) that Jones is a company that
primarily makes bags.  You can tell them because they say "JONES"
on the bottom of the bag.

Jeff
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: wayman@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Jeffrey Wayman)
Subject: Re: Recommendations on lightweight but durable Bags?
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:37:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523
Keywords: golf bags

In article <1992Nov16.134942.13100@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> warren@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (warren.a.montgomery) writes:
>My wife and I both carry our clubs by choice, and are looking for
>new bags.  The bags we currently have (one an old reliable brand
>and one a brand X) were both purchased about a year ago and
>already falling apart.  (In both cases the struts in the sides of
>the bag have broken off one or both ends causing the bag to
>collapse and the struts to poke through the sides and bottom.)  My
>previous bag lasted through 20 years of abuse and neglect, and I
>had expected much better from modern technology.  Any suggestions
>on carryable bags that will hold up to heavy use?  Any brands or
>designs to avoid?
>

I've really liked the Jones bags.  They make a lot of the bags
carried by college teams because they do a good job on lettering
and such.  They're also *real* durable, which they need to be 
for a college team because a lot of players use them over the years.
The best thing I like about them is their balance.  In my opinion,
balance is even more important than total weight.  A well-balanced
bag can make it seem light as a feather.  There you go.

Jeff                wayman@lamar.colostate.edu
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From: boncelet@claude.eecs.umich.edu (Charles Boncelet)
Subject: Re: left-handed golf supplies
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:49:16 GMT

In article <Bxz6GI.FCI@ns1.nodak.edu> strube@warp6.cs.misu.NoDak.edu (Don Strube A262 857-3018) writes:
> I recently ordered a book on club making from Golfsmith and recieved their	catalog of club making supplies.  I was a little disappointed to find that	there were very few left handed heads available for irons or putter heads.	Does anyone know of another supplier who might have more available for the	left handed player.  Thanks..

For complete clubs, you might want to try the Lefties only mail order
shop that advertises in Golf Digest and Golf magazine.  Can't recall their
name, but the phone number is 1-800-lefties.  They send out a flyer
periodically with lots of clubs listed.

In case anyone is interested, they occasionally get other equipment.
I recall them offering left handed catcher's mitts, for instance.

	Charlie Boncelet <boncelet@udel.edu>, 
		or until 12/15 <boncelet@eecs.umich.edu>
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From: NGRSTW@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu (George Stancil)
Subject: Ping irons for sale
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:42:54 GMT

Posting for a friend:
Two sets of ping eye2 irons for sale: 3 thru lw and 1 thru pw, color
code: black, asking $300 for each set.  Call 919-772-9666 after 6:00 p.m.
M-F or anytime WE.  Asks for Tommy.  If I can be of assistance, reply back
to me.   George_Stancil@NCSU.EDU or NGRSTW@NCSUVM.Bitnet
From: mccarty@add.itg.ti.com (Rick McCarty)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Recommendations on lightweight but durable Bags?
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:23:07
Organization: Texas Instruments Incorporated, Austin, TX
	<Nov18.193729.51392@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
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In-reply-to: wayman@lamar.ColoState.EDU's message of Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:37:29 GMT

In article <Nov18.193729.51392@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> wayman@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Jeffrey Wayman) writes:

   >I've really liked the Jones bags.  They make a lot of the bags
   >carried by college teams because they do a good job on lettering
   >and such.  They're also *real* durable, which they need to be 
   >for a college team because a lot of players use them over the years.
   >The best thing I like about them is their balance.  In my opinion,
   >balance is even more important than total weight.  A well-balanced
   >bag can make it seem light as a feather.  There you go.

Are the Jones bags the ones I referred to in my post as the PING bags?

--RJMc
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From: pazur@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (scott.m.pazur)
Subject: Outer Banks (Kitty Hawk area) Golf Reviews
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:16:16 GMT

 I just got back from a weekend of golf in NC's Outer Banks (Kitty Hawk area)
and thought I'd offer my quickie reviews.

Nags Head Golf Links:  Simply beautiful.  A very difficult course, especially
for someone who has never played it (double if no one in your group, like us,
has played it!).  It is a Scottish-style course which requires shot making
precision on almost every stroke.  There are only a couple holes which let 
you get out the driver off the tee.  There are four holes that run along the
Sound which make it even more scenic.  The greens are relatively flat, the
only problem is reaching them.  This is a must play again, even with its 
very expensive price tag.  The rate for us in November was $50 ($30 for over
55).  I remember in July it was $65 and we didn't play it then for that reason.
There are a couple of articles from local magazines on display in the pro
shop, grab them.  One contains a hole-by-hole cheat sheet that really comes
in handy.

Sea Scape:  Another Scottish-style course, but a little more open.  You won't 
lose as many balls here as at Nags Head.  Nothing fancy, a rather easy course
compared to Nags Head.  Again, flat greens, alot of doglegs, and more hilly
than Nags Head.  One very annoying thing: no yardage markers on sprinklers,  
only 150 yard markers.  Since our condo overlooks the fourth tee here, I'm
sure I'll be back.

Duck Woods Country Club:  Private club, only open to us tourists off-season.
That's ok for me, a very boring course.  A lot of water, but mostly along the 
sides of the fairway.  No big deal here, I'll stick to Nags Head and Sea Scape.


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From: donald@meaddata.com (Donald Parrish)
Subject: Re: Kapalua comments.....
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:08:11 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Nov16.222948.22031@pixar.com>, dj@pixar.com (Dennis Jennings) writes:
|> A friend and myself will be traveling to Hawaii in a few days and staying 
|> at and playing Kapalua for 4 days. I know they have 3 courses there and 
|> would appreciate any comments that anyone might have on the individual
|> courses, i.e., which was the best they played, hardest, most fun, etc. We
|> have someone flying over and joining us for 1 round and so would like to 
|> schedule the round on the course that everyone prefers the most since we
|> won't be able to try all 3 before our friend arrives. Thanks for any comments!
|> 
|> dj@pixar.com
|> 
|> 

This past weekend the PGA tour played Kapalua courses, both the 
Bay Side and Plantation courses. The Plantation course has very 
wide fairways but is extremely long, almost 7300 yards. The
greens appear to have alot of breaks. The Bay Side is gorgeous!!
The TV didn't show much of Bay Side, just the Plantation.

I'm going to Maui in a few weeks myself and I'm going to give the
Plantation course a try. Plan on spending $110 for green fees.
The Bay Side course may be cheaper but I doubt it. Have fun!!

-- 

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From: mccarty@add.itg.ti.com (Rick McCarty)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Recommendations on lightweight but durable Bags?
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:05:24
Organization: Texas Instruments Incorporated, Austin, TX
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In-reply-to: warren@cbnewsh.cb.att.com's message of Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:49:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.134942.13100@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> warren@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (warren.a.montgomery) writes:

   >Any suggestions on carryable bags that will hold up to heavy use?  Any
   >brands or designs to avoid?

I think Dave Drab gave some good info on the Eclipse bag in his post.  It's
the one I carry, and I'm extremely happy with it.  I play golf at least once
or twice a week and almost always carry unless it's a tournament where they
make me take a cart.  My bag has held up well for almost two years of
consistent usage and shows only slight normal wear.

Another bag that's extremely popular and durable is the PING bag that you
see lots of the college amateurs carry.  It's slightly less costly than
the Eclipse and a bit lighter.  Both bags have well designed stand
mechanisms.  If I had to choose between the two, I'd have to flip a
coin.  I think it gets down to simple personal taste between them.

If you don't care about a built-in stand, Sun Mountain also makes
another model (I don't recall the name) which is nice and runs (I think)
somewhere in the $50 dollar range.  In fact, I think it's pocket layout
is better than the Eclipse.

Whatever you purchase, if you go for a built-in stand model, DON'T buy a
cheapo brand.  You'll be less than pleased.  A friend of mine purchased
one that looked similar to the Eclipse for about 20 bucks less and it
broke the first time he used it.  Spend your cash on the real McCoy!

--RJMc

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