HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: viznyuk@physics.ucla.edu (Sergei Viznyuk)
Subject: Re: Mark Twain was an emigrant from Russia
Organization: UCLA Department of Physics
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 22:13:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.132444.25219@jyu.fi> ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti) writes:
>viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu wrote:
>: In article <1992Oct30.102723.3772@jyu.fi>, ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti) writes:
>: > Mark Twain was an emigrant from Russia. That is why in his book
>: > the main character is Huckeleberry Finn, the most famous Finn of the world.
>: > Now I understand the connection better. Thanks:-grin...
>: > Regards,
>: > jarmo ryyti
>: > SUOMI
>: > 
>: 
>:   the Russian word "finiki" is also from "Finn", for sure..
>: yep..forgot - the word "jarmo" is also Russian...
>: the peasants used to torture their horses by that
>: terrible thing.. (where were those vocal animals' rights activists then ?)
>: Huh ! of course "ryyti" is also of Russian origin - 
>: I bet it comes from "ryt'", eh ?  So "jarmo ryyti" is
>: surely a Russian agent in Fini[ki/sh] ranks.
>: How have I exposed him !
>
>Dear Serega,
>I was just joking about Huckeleberry Finn, do not take so seriously.

  On the contrary, me wasn't ever more serious

>I indeed believe that Jarmo has a karelian origin-jaroma, may be I am
>wrong.

   As I said your name comes from Russian "jarmo". Didn't
your female ancestors have something to do with horses ?
Or rather with donkeys, eh ? 

>Have you Serega ever investigated your family roots?

  that's what I'm doing all the time

>I mean you sound
>like a Finn, stubborn like hell! Many russians have in fact fenno-ugrian
>roots, some know it, some not. What is yours?

  I wish I know myself. My grandma was pretty light-headed    :-)

>I were not suprised if you were in fact a russian with a fenno-ugrian
>heritage.

  I wouldn't be surprised either.

>Warm regards for an old friend on the net,
>Jarmo

  Best wishes, many hot kisses, and horny girls for tonight evening...
...oops.. sorry, completely forgot that you're Finn...:-)

Serega & Co
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: tampon flame, very sad story
From: <VABHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 3 Nov 1992 16:52:09 EST
 n.ibm.com> <4207@cvbnetPrime.COM><1992Nov03.193518.22609@watson.ibm.com>
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <1992Nov03.193518.22609@watson.ibm.com>,
bil@burka..aix.kingston.ibm.com (Igor Belchinskiy) says:
        -igor

P.S. Probably follow-up should be set to soc.women, alt.abortion, etc.
Definitely not to s.c.s.
On other note - maybe it's good idea to have alt.fan.patricia.schwartz
for all her word flood and subsequent spin-offs, like this?

It's a good idea to set alt.fan.burka.misc, isn't it?
For all his word-spinning flux and ever presisting comments. Like it?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: davidson@ccrs.emr.ca (David Davidson)
Subject: looking for Sojuzkarta in Moscow
Summary: I need the }ifax number/info on Sojuzkarta  
Organization: Canada Centre for Remote Sensing, Ottawa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:59:05 GMT

I am looking the fax number of Sojuzkarta, 45 Volgogradsky Prospekt, Moscow
phone (095-177-40-50). 

I am interested in finding out what are the products they currently have 
available, costs, distribution etc.... . Also, I have heard that the 
Russian government has  opened up their data archives and is selling their
satellite data at very reduced prices to developing nations. I am very
interested in finding out the details of this.

Please accept my thanks in advance to anyone who can be of assistance.
David Davidson
Senior Research Associate
Canada Centre for Remote Sensing
Ottawa, Ontario
davidson@ccrs.emr.ca
phone:613-996-9398
fax:613-996-9843

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A
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: goykhman_a@apollo.hp.com (Alex Goykhman)
Subject: Re: Reply to S. Borodin (was: Antisemitism and Verbitsky)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:31:12 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

    Well, don't rush to discard that notion because there is 
    a correlation between how much power the Russians have, 
    and the level of ethnic and racial intolerance in Russia.

    The Russian Empire used to be an extremely racist state,
    a "prison of nations" as Lenin once put it.  On top of it,
    there were some restrictions that applied only to the Russian 
    Jews (the Pale, etc.). Mind you that at the time the country 
    was primerily owned and run by the Russians.

    By 1917, the country had been mismanaged so badly that the
    population revolted and, as a result, the ruling elite was 
    thrown out of power.  After the Civil War, and until WWII
    began, the country was ruled by ethnic minorities - the Jews,
    Georgians, Latvians, etc - and it was during that period of
    time that the state became considerably less chauvinistic, 
    and anti-semitism was all but gone.

    The Russians returned to power after WWII, and brought with 
    them the traditional great-russian chauvinism, extreme racial
    and ethnic intolerance and, yes, anti-semitism.
    
    By 1991, the country had been mismanaged so badly that the
    population revolted...

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Disclaimer: all opinions are mine.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Reply to S. Borodin (was: Antisemitism and Verbitsky)
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:11:23 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Nov6.003025.21354@u.washington.edu> nobby@milton.u.washington.edu (Vitaly Shmatikov) writes:
>>In article <Bx9L81.DIL@apollo.hp.com> goykhman_a@apollo.hp.com (Alex Goykhman) writes:

>>>    By 1991, the country had been mismanaged so badly that the
>>>    population revolted...

avg:
>>And fortunately there is now a chance that all bigots finally leave
>>Russia forever. Don't lull yourselves with a "how those stupid
>>Russians will live witihout us" -- Germany somehow managed, didn't it?

>I sincerely hope that this sentence somehow crawled in from a
>different posting. You do not really mean that Russia will survive without
>its Jews as well as Germany survived without hers, do you?

  I sincerely hope too that sentences like Goykman's will not turn
  more people towards slogans proposed by our lovely "Pamjat'".
  Otherwise we could end up with our population decreased by a
  couple of millions (it's still better than Goykman's proposed
  30 millions, isn't it ? :-)

>Nobby
>nobby@u.washington.edu

 S.B.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: buchanan@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (BUCHANAN TIMOTHY E)
Subject: Andrei Rublov (film)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 17:49:15 GMT

We saw the Tartovsky film 'Andrei Rublov' last night at CU. Some earlier
postings criticized the translations, but perhaps these have been changed.
Anyway, Natalia said they were pretty good as these things go.

It's a very rewarding movie; I especially enjoyed the final sequence, the
casting of a bell. I did not understand the first scene in the film, in
which a balloon is launched. Could someone shed some light on this? 
Timothy.
From: LANDSBERG@sbhep2.phy.sunysb.edu (Greg Landsberg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: What are talking about?
Date: 12 Nov 92 02:15:06 GMT
Organization: SUNY at Stony Brook
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <97190@netnews.upenn.edu> burshtey@eniac.seas.upenn.edu writes:

> In article <BxJ2JC.2rw@max.physics.sunysb.edu> LANDSBERG@sbhep2.phy.sunysb.edu (Greg Landsberg) writes:
> >In <1992Nov10.161147.34508@watson.ibm.com> bil@burka..aix.kingston.ibm.com writes:
> >> Really valuable persons accept Visa, MC or Amex. :-)
> >>
> >> 	-igor
> >
> >Really valuable people do not accept AmEx :-)
> >
> >Greg
>                                                                           
> Here is your typical example of a deep intellectual discussion
> in the soc.vulture.soviet.                                                 

Every fool  knows that  intellectual  discussions in this  group are helded
only by  people from  either  Harvard or  Berkeley.  All the  others ``tak,
pogulyat' vishli...''

> Need I say anything else?                                                   

You didn't need to say even what you just said :)

> No further comments.                                                      

Thanks, hope that you'd keep your word in the future.

> Alex Burshteyn                                                            

Keep smiling,

Greg
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: rec1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Rich Connelly)
Subject: Medication in CIS
Keywords: Medicine, Health
Reply-To: rec1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:05:22 GMT

Hi, I'm a college student at the University of Chicago, graduating next month.  
I'm hoping to go to the former USSR soon to improve my language skills and to 
finally get to know the country(ies) I've been studying for so long.  

Unfortunately I have a medical condition (ulcerative colitus) which requires me
to take medication everyday, and which necessitates my being careful not to 
eat or drink anything that could make me sick.

Is there anyone out there in a similar situation who could give me an idea 
of what to expect health-wise?  I realize that most people get sick when
traveling in foreign countries, but in my case it could be a bit more serious.
So, I would appreciate some advise on what to do when it happens.  
My advisor here at the U of C told me that if I have dollars I could stay at 
the Kremlin hospital!

thanks in advance

Rich Connelly


Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: sharon@unixland.natick.ma.us (Sharon Machlis Gartenberg)
Subject: More mail problems
Summary: Gift book returned to me ...
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:09:48 GMT

I was rather displeased, to say the least, to discover that a book I had
mailed a friend in Ukraine *last December,* registered mail, was returned
to my local post office. I was notified yesterday. As I remember, it was
a book of photographs of American cities, which I sent as a birthday
gift. The guy at the post office said the book was apparently returned by
Soviet/CIS authorities, because for some reason they decided not to allow
him to have it. For me to reclaim the package, check the paperwork and
get the book back, I would have had to pay the U.S. Post Office $15 in
return postage. That's along with the $13+ I spent to send it out, plus
the cost of the book. I was ticked, and refused.

Anyone else have this problem, of books being rejected and sent back
this year?

Thanks,

Sharon 
-- 
Sharon Machlis Gartenberg
Framingham, MA  USA
email: sharon@unixland.natick.ma.us   or   uunet!think.com!unixland!sharon
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: frants@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Leonid Frants)
Subject: Re: Vorob'ev i buduschee Rossii (was: Belchinskiy i svinyi (was Re: Andrei Rublov))
Keywords: bestiality uncontrolled emotions pig butcher
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:22:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.153955.38223@watson.ibm.com> bil@burka..aix.kingston.ibm.com (Igor Belchinskiy) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.044247.52841@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> pv02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PETER VOROBIEFF) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov10.223243.47499@watson.ibm.com>, bil@burka..aix.kingston.ibm.com (Igor Belchinskiy) writes:

>>I will not claim expert knowledge of atmospheric processes, but
>>at least I usually write and spell correctly. 
>
>Now all the net, starting from honourable Oleg Kiselev and Leonid Frants,
>should explain you why it's not appropriate to mention spelling failures
>of toher repsons. So I wouldn't concentrate on that.

>	-igor


Igor - I am afraid you need to learn how to discern sarcasm. I think
Peter was making fun of your past statements regarding the spelling.  

Leonid.
From: scaruffi@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Piero Scaruffi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Need help to find a job
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:11:59 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA


Hello, Russian and American and Whatever-else friends who read this newsgroup.

I have a friend in Italy who just graduated from university in Russian and
English.
Now she would like to move to the U.S.
Does anybody here know of employment opportunities in the U.S. for people who
speak Russian, English and Italian?
Any suggestions on who would know of such employment opportunities?

ANy help warmly welcome.

Spasibo,

piero
scaruffi@atc.olivetti.com
From: mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Mark Twain was an emigrant from Russia
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:58:21 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton

In article <14520.2af4204f@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>, viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
> In article <1992Oct30.102723.3772@jyu.fi>, ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti) writes:
>> Mark Twain was an emigrant from Russia. That is why in his book
>> the main character is Huckeleberry Finn, the most famous Finn of the world.
>> Now I understand the connection better. Thanks:-grin...
>> Regards,
>> jarmo ryyti
>> SUOMI
>> 
> 
>   the Russian word "finiki" is also from "Finn", for sure..
> yep..forgot - the word "jarmo" is also Russian...
> the peasants used to torture their horses by that
> terrible thing.. (where were those vocal animals' rights activists then ?)

Mr.Viznyuk says a new word in Russian linguistics!!!  I always thought that
word "finiki" came from word "finikiitsy".  And BTW, "jarmo" doesn't look like
100% Russian too...  Most likely it came with Variangian tribes, which
overpowered Slavic tribes in IX century and created their dinasty (Rurikans) as
well as their state (Kievan Rus').

Now, I don't pretend that I know a lot about early Russian history or about
Russian philology, but I believe that all the meditations of Mr.Vizniuk is
nothing more than bullshit in the best Russian traditions ("a by pogovorit'").



> Huh ! of course "ryyti" is also of Russian origin - 
> I bet it comes from "ryt'", eh ?  So "jarmo ryyti" is
> surely a Russian agent in Fini[ki/sh] ranks.
> How have I exposed him !
>

"Skhodi na bazar, kupi seledku i moroch' ei golovu..."
  
> Serega & Co

Respectfully,

Michael.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:9633 soc.history:9218 soc.culture.jewish:19287
From: sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.history,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: State Antisemitism in Russia (was re: reply to S. Borodin)
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:06:50 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.soviet
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Nov5.034149.29449@cis.ohio-state.edu> khaikin@neptune.cis.ohio-state.edu (dmitry khaikin) writes:

>>In article <96053@netnews.upenn.edu> 
>>sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin) writes:

>>  As for myth about state supported antisemitism - never happened.


>........ Although, that was one of
>the reasons my family and I did this. Communism is still in Russia, it
>has just been renamed. Almost the same people in power, different
>name... Come on! You don't have to be a ginious to figure that one out.

 Did I deny that? Anyway, I make a distinction between the two, e.g.
 communism and antisemitism.

>And by the way I do communicate with my relatives and, of course with my
>girlfriend, and know first hand what is happenning over there. Although,
>it is kind of hard to communicate when 3 out of 5 letters just never get
>here. Oh, and is not the post office in Russia a government
>organization? Yes, it is.

 ?? What do you mean? "antisemitic Post office"? 
 How about cosmopolitan telephone? It works for me.

>The saying that Soviet (or whatever they renamed themselves to be now) state
>does not support antisemitism probably means that you are not jewish.

 That is correct. Reverse saying will be also correct, e.g. the acceptance
 of the idea that Soviet state does support antisemitism most likely
 means that the acceptor is Jewish. 

 The problem is that you don't want to accept a simple thing, that is
 that soviets did not distinguish nationalities. Jews were just one of
 more or less groupped people. The idea of free emigration for Jews
 made them potentially dangerous to the system. But it is not antisemitism
 it is just that the system preserved itself  from what it felt dangerous.
 Happen it to be any other nation - we would see the same. It is still
 not actions against nationalities, but rather against groups of people.
 In soviet system one could do anything he wanted UNTILL he gets known
 to the system for some (any) reason.

 A simple example. Would you consider a robbery made against a person 
 on a street (random sample of a person) an antisemitic action if the person
 happen (I mean it - happen) to be a Jew?

>Thanks,
>Dima

 S.B.
From: v053t4yv@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Vassili O Kouznetsov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: dixie
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:08:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <11411@kesson.ed.ac.uk>, alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk 
(Alexei Moiseyev) writes...

> 
>	Howdee neighbours!
>  'member what Good Lord Jesus used to say?  "Love thy neighbour..."
>and all?  A partner of mine, down in the famed city of Oxford wishes
>to read messages of this reputed society we call "soc.culture.soviet".
>But it ain't working for him, 'cause he's on a Vax!  So the question
>to all you, good men is: How d'you login "soc.culture.soviet" from a Vax?
>  
>  And 'nother thing.  What's been happenin' at NYU?  It kind of hard
>to learn about these things here in Blighty.
>		Thankya kindly for your dear-precious time
>				'n cooperatin'. A.M-T.
I am reading news both on VAX and Sun and don't have any problem. And I 
don't understand what his problem is - he doesn't know the name of the
program, computer is not linked, or what ?
Vassili
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: vodopis@pell3l1.alleg.edu (Serguei Vodopianov)
Subject: S PRAZDNIKOM
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:16:21 GMT

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From: gene@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Eugene Tyurin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Reply to S. Borodin (was: Antisemitism and Verbitsky)
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:15:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: max.BxBF69.Hp7
Organization: Institute for the Theoretical Physics

In article <1992Nov6.003025.21354@u.washington.edu> nobby@milton.u.washington.edu (Vitaly Shmatikov) writes:
>In article <1dcajdINNpi7@rodan.UU.NET> avg@rodan.UU.NET (Vadim Antonov) writes:
>>In article <Bx9L81.DIL@apollo.hp.com> goykhman_a@apollo.hp.com (Alex Goykhman) writes:
>Indeed, how come? Without exerting my memory I can recall at least
>10-15 personal acquaintances who were fired from their jobs after
>applying for exit visas in the late 70s and spent full 8-10 years
>sweeping streets, working at boilers or just living off friends'
>support.
>
	Listen, stop this whining. If you work for a company and will apply
for a position in another company -- you will be fired and you employer will
check that you do not take anything useful with you.
	Since everything in the xUSSR was goverment owned, applying for an
emigration is automatically qualified as unloyalty from the above point of view
	So what I am saying is that this "anti-emigre" policy is inevitable.
The only difference is that the whole USSR was like a one big corporation
whether you like it or not. You had no choice: want to live elsewhere -- face
the consequences. Corporation is not interesting in supporting and helping
the progress of its *dead* elements.
	Sic!

_______________________________________________________________________________
 Eugene  N.  Tyurin  <+>                           gene@max.physics.sunysb.edu
 Physics Department  <+>   Two wrongs do not make it right, but three lefts do.
 SUNY @ Stony Brook  <+>                                W. Siegel (unpublished)

 
Newsgroups: uic.culture.ukrainian,bit.listserv.ukraine,soc.culture.soviet
From: bil@burka..aix.kingston.ibm.com (Igor Belchinskiy)
Subject: Re: Viewing and discussion of Ukrainian film in Chgo
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 15:33:38 GMT
Organization: Be. I am.

In article <92313.184039U52539@uicvm.uic.edu> ---  BORYS  --- <U52539@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
Subject: Re: Viewing and discussion of Ukrainian film in Chgo
       The movie "Shadows of our Forgotten Ancestors"   will

Is Paradzhanov an Ukrainian director?
From: muh@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Yury M. Mukharsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: LZ Roolz
Date: 10 Nov 1992 18:06:00 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov10.002739.17287@husc3.harvard.edu> verbit@brauer.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky) writes:
>
	 cauchy [21] 12:19am bin>webster zeppelin
	 zep.pe.lin \'zep-(*-)l*n\ n [Count Ferdinand von Zeppelin -1917 G airship 
   	 manufacturer] : a rigid airship consisting of a cylindrical trussed and 
                           ^^^^^                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    	covered frame su pported by internal gas cells; broadly : AIRSHIP
   	 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Russian equivalent is apparently dirizhabl'. Also sometimes used in
broader meaning. So monk flew dirizhabl'.
> 
>It is a pity that unsufficient knowledge of English
>induces such a big volume of noise and flames.

Trully so.

Yury M.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:9795 rec.arts.books:19785
From: verbit@brauer.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Venedikt Erofejev: Moskva - Petushki
Keywords: Moskva, Petushki
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:52:40 GMT
Organization: Sozialistische Patienten Kollektiv

In his article  zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:

[ answering Yury Mukharsky; much deleted ]

> By contrast, instead of an argument, Verbitsky
>offers his say-so; not too impressive.

	Let me step in your esteemed discussion:
	I have offered not only so-so, but also
	analysis of Rozanov's essay and Leniniana.
	On the other hand, *you* have not added
	anything except Ovid quote. The evidence of this
	quote, besides being known (and not-so-well supported :)
	does not add anything since there are more explicit
	quotes and allusions (up to Radishchev's one :)
	In any case, there are more quotes in Leniniana
	since it consists only of quotes. Apparently
	this source is not known to Swiss professionals
	(and as such, to you :), so you preferred not
	to discuss it, restricting yourself to 
	personal innuendo on my alleged mathematical
	background. Needless to say, even this was
	not accomplished (I have only 1.5 years
	of formal education in math and one - of graduate
	school :). So to say...

	Misha.

	    "Taobh ri taobh tha sinn mar aon de dha shaobhail
	    "Do lambh nam lambh gabhal aithne air leim a ghablh
	    "Mar e shealbhaichis mi an tiodhlac seo ahonisa
	    "S mo lambh n'ad lambh smuainich air na tireauu ceinne
	    "S mi deaunabh gardochas da raire