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From:         Michael Perrone <a2mp@LOKI.CC.PDX.EDU>
Subject:      Re: IP Tunnelling limits (practical and theoretical)
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              16, 92 10:29 am

Joe Doupnik writes:

> >2  Are people using 'unidirectional' IPTunnelling?  Ie Server A is a peer
> >to B, but B is not a peer to A?  Would this affect performance?
>
>         I think this won't work at all. Both sides have to agree to tunnel
> to each other.

Not So! We've got 5 servers configured to 'unidirectionally' tunnel to
the server at the computing center. There are no problems in doing so.

I agree with everything else that Joe said, however.

Yes, routing through your central routers is better. But at PSU those
with the power to decide have decided that our Cisco AGS+ will route only
i.p. Lan's that want to interconnect have no choice but encaspulation :-(

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From:         John Beck <JBECK@BMGTMAIL.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 3C501 Driver
X-To:         NOVELL%SUVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu

We are using 3c501 boards in about 40 PC's that are attached to a
Netware 3.11 machine.  We are using the packet driver version but I'm
sure that any reseller could give you a regular 501 driver.  One
problem we've had, though, is that the 501 boards are so slow that
when we put a 32 bit NIC in the server, the 501 boards could
not switch between send and recieve modes fast enough.  Therefore,
they could
not see the servers anymore.  We finally had to slow our network down
via the use of a bridge.  I would blame this on the slowness of the
501 card.


> I am about to convert from 3Com 3Plus to NW 3.11.  Someone else here, who
> is arguing in favor or Lan Manager for his shop, has said that 3.11 does
> not have a driver for the 3C501 card.  This is important to us because of
> the large number of those cards in use.  I assume there is a driver
> available.  Can anyone confirm this?
>
> Jim Uomini
> San Francisco State University
>           John Beck
Systems and Network Coordinator
      College of Business
    jbeck@bmgtmail.umd.edu
        (301) 405-2271
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Reply-To:     lsuc!becker!bokonon!stephen@zoo.toronto.edu
From:         lsuc!becker!bokonon!stephen@ZOO.TORONTO.EDU
Subject: Re: To Cache or Not To Cache

$We are currently writing up specifications for new 3.11 servers.  The largest
$lan that we will be operating has about 60 to 80 users.  We will be using a
$486 33 EISA server.  The question for the group is whether we should buy a
$caching SCSI controller.  PC Magazine did a review recently of such servers,

   My personal opinion, certain to be agreed with by some and countered
by others, is that it is pretty much a waste of money to have a caching
operating system and a caching disk controller.  Unless the operating system
is aware that the controller is doing the caching, you will end up with
significant duplication between the two caches.

   I would buy a non-caching controller and put the money you save into
more memory for the server.  It's faster for the operating system to grab
cached data from its own memory than to pull it across the bus from a
caching controller.  Also, should some of the memory be needed for
other things (more file service processes, extra NLMs such as SQL
database servers, more packet receive buffers, more directory cache
buffers, etc.), it's available if it's on the motherboard but not if
it's in the drive controller.

$matter?  (Our servers are generally application serving programs like 123r2.3
$WP51 and some clipper/foxpro databases, though the dbase activity on the
$larger servers is relatively small.)

   123 and WP51 do not place much of a strain on the server, other
than for brief periods when loading the executables.  I ran a 80-user
SFT 2.15 net on an IBM PS/2 model 80 with 4M of RAM and a 300 MB hard
drive - hardly a powerful machine, and it generally serviced about 95%
of disk requests from cache.  Its application mix was similar to
yours.

   As I said, these are mostly opinions, so take them with some salt.

-Steve
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 11:17:17 MDT
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From:         fhammond@NMSU.EDU
Subject:      Re: File server won't boot
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              13, 92 11:06 am

Re-run install -m and remove the appletalk from the configuration and load it on
 the hard disk.

Use the Netware install facility to place it on the file server.

If worse comes to worse you will have to remove the stuff on the sys volume
by resizing the sys volume. That should not me necessary.

>
> Hi all,
>
> I just tried to add an appletalk (Ethertalk) network to my Novell file
> server.  It seems my server does not have enough memory to load all the
> MAC support it needs.  My server will no longer boot...it just freezes and
> says: ATALK ERROR: readzonefile - No memory for zone list entry.  and then
> freezes.  I have to reboot the server, but it keeps freezing at the same
> point.  How do I get my server to come back up (with or without the
> appletalk...I don't care)
>
> thanks, Jeff
>
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:39:00 MDT
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Win 3.1, packet drivers, etc.

>This may end up being for JoeD, but I'll give everyone a kick at the cat.
>
>Just installed Win 3.1 and want to use packet drivers and TCP/IP thingies.
>Have't tried it before under 3.0, so this is new.
>
>All works well under DOS ... problem is only in Windows.
>
>Environment: ODI drivers, IPXPKT packet driver. Windows set up to lock the DOS
>task in memory (as per JoeD's recommendations).
>
>Telnet and FTP work just fine. HOWEVER, upon trying to EXIT from the DOS box
>back to Windows, Windows locks up TIGHT. BRS time, folks.
-------------
        What you need is WINPKT.ZIP in addition to a regular Packet Driver.
This fellow (tiny too) does the Windows song and dance stuff with virtual
machines, and one need no longer lock tasks in memory. Load on top of a
regular PD or dis_pkt, it becomes a new PD interface (put at a lower Int
than the regular one so scanning programs get winpkt first), then start
Windows. Easy, it works. Can be loaded high, etc. Obtain from several
places, most notably from the netlab series:
        netlab.usu.edu  cd [.novell or .misc]                   VMS VAX
        netlab1.usu.edu cd pub/misc or pub/misc2                Unix with
                                some directories NFS mounted from netlab2
        netlab2.usu.edu cd misc                                 NW 3.11
        Joe D.
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From:         dingwall@SIFVX1.SINET.SLB.COM
Subject:      CAPTURE SHOW command, 'C' equivalent needed
X-To:         novell@suvm.acs.syr.edu

I have an application which needs to redirect print information to a file.

I would like to


    o Use a 'C' program to record the settings of LPT1 and build a
      tempoary batch file with the appropriate CAPTURE command in it.
        o Stamp over the LPT1 settings with my CAPTURE command
    o Run my application
    o use ENDCAP
    o run the tempoary batch file to restore the users original settings.


I am having problems calling the Netware 'C' interface for DOS routine
"GetSpecificCaptureFlags" to return all the required information.

Has anyone written such a beast to save away the current settings to so save me
some time. I do not seam to be able to link to 1) the server, 2) the queue 3)
some of the parameters like timeout are have non linear values. I am probably
using the functions incorrectly.

Any suggestions would be appreciated as I have spent 8hrs on this without any
progress.


Ian.

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From:         "Ian C. Westmacott" <ian@CMPSCI.SUFFOLK.EDU>
Subject:      Purging Print Qs
X-To:         novell@suvm.acs.syr.edu

Is there any way to automatically, given a certain time or event, purge a 3.11
print queue?

_______________________________________________________________________________

Ian C. Westmacott        CLAS Systems Administrator        Tel: (617) 573-8529
ian@cmpsci.suffolk.edu        Suffolk University, Boston        FAX: (617)
 573-8513
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From:         C_NEEFUS@UNHH.UNH.EDU
Subject:      FTPing VAX VMS<->PC
X-To:         novell@suvm.acs.syr.edu

A co-worker in my department does a lot of work with U.S.Census information
on one of the UNH Vaxes.  The files that she works with generally have very
large record sizes (i.e. in the 4000 to 7000 byte range).  Do to the sometimes
long delays in getting tapes mounted on the VAX, she has decided to FTP some
of her frequently used files to the hard disk on her PC for storage, and then
to FTP them back to the VAX when she needs to work with them there. Seems
like a good idea to me, she can FTP a 10MB file in less than 2 minutes ...
much quicker than a tape mount, not to mention the money it will save when
they start charging us for storage space as they have been threatening.

Now here's the problem.  A file that starts out with say a 4000 byte record
size on the VAX, is FTP'd to the PC and back again, ends up with a record
size of 512bytes. No data is lost, but the record size parameter on the VAX
has changed and the record type has changed from "variable" to "fixed", and
this seems to cause problems with some of the software she uses to read
the files on the VAX.

She's using the DOS version of FTP from Novell LAN Workplace for DOS to
do the file transfers. She has tried setting type to BINARY and it doesn't
make any difference. Changing the FTP structure parameter from STREAM to
RECORD results in a record size error at the beginning of the transfer.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.

Chris Neefus, University of NH, Office of Biometrics
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From:         "Kenneth D. Ray CRC OCIS" <XRAY@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Backups

I would like to dispence with backup systems all together and
"tar" up all of my files together and FTP them to our mainframe
to sit on the XXX GIG of empty disk space.  (or even have the main
frame operators archive them just as they do everything else every
day, BUT I have some concerns about whether the mac files will be
copied right.  (I believe that mac files have two branches and know
that the have long file names.)  My questiion is how does Novell
treat these files as accessed from the dos side...
can I "xcopy" them back and forth without problems and or
what is a substitute for xcopy that will work for "tar"ing or
"zoo"ing or "zip"ing or whatever from the PC side.

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 08:53:42 CDT
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From:         rfranken@CS.UMR.EDU
Subject:      Re: syscon etc.
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              Rutherford/Faculty Computing Center" at Apr 16, 92 8:28 am

>
>   In a normal configuration even users with almost no privileges have access
>   to syscon etc.  Even though this is not necessarily dangerous, it might
>   give them access to info that is not needed.
>
>   Is there a simple way to prevent this? Can you move these programs out of
>   the path of these accounts without disturbing other functions.
>

All you have do do is restrict trustee rights to SYSCON.EXE

   ALLOW SYS:PUBLIC\SYSCON.EXE N

This sets the inherited rights mask for SYSCON to NONE, so the rights that
everyone has to the PUBLIC directory will not apply to SYSCON.EXE (Of course,
SUPERVISOR and anyone security equiv to SUPERVISOR can access anything - if
anyone else needs access to SYSCON, you can give them access by assigning
trustee rights to SYSCON.EXE).

          - Brett  (rfranken@cs.umr.edu)
From: RBYAML@ROHVM1.BITNET (Aengus Lawlor)
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Subject: Re: IPX/NETX for Windows 3.1
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:23:41 GMT
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

In article <9204072101.AA03911@bluemoon>, Parik Rao <prao@BLUEMOON.UCSB.EDU>
says:
>
>> >in the directory that windows v3.1 will be placed.
>>
>> >You can manually also expand it, its on disk 3 or 4 I believe.
>>
>> >When/if you get windows 3.1, make sure to read the NETWORKS.WRI file in the
>> >windows subdirectory.
>>
>> How do us packet driver users take advantage of this?
>
>It depends on how you drive your packets.  If you use the BYU-IPX package, you
>need to regenerate a new IPX.COM, mixing the byu patches with the IPX.OBJ
>that comes with Windows 3.1 (which is from novell).  If you use the Intel
>thingie, I don't know (never used it).  If you use ODIPKT (i.e., ODI) you
>won't need to do a whole lot, just get NETX.COM and make sure you got the
>IPXODI from the ODIUP5.ZIP update.  I don't know if you're using the NDIS
>shims.
My WIN3.1 install disks installed a ned version of LSL (1.21?) and IPXODI
in the WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory. No need for ODIUP5. Maybe it only loads these
if it detects ODI installed.
>
>parik rao
>prao@bluemoon.ucsb.edu
Aengus
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From:         NELSENDA@COLUMBIA.DSU.EDU
Subject:      Re: Supervisor Password

I apologize for this, as I know it came up not too long ago.  I need
to recover a forgotton supervisor password on one of our 3.11 servers.
According to Novell, I have to fill out some form in triplicate, get
one notarized by a notery public, and wait for a special NLM.  My
question is:  isn't there an easier way?  (How unsafe are most Novell
installations that they can't include a simple console command to do
this?).

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Ian C. Westmacott        CLAS Systems Administrator        Tel: (617) 573-8529
ian@cmpsci.suffolk.edu        Suffolk University, Boston        FAX: (617)
 573-8513
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I don't think that this is possible unless you have one other user
(not the Supervisor) that has Supervisor rights


Dan Nelsen                          Bitnet:  S91187@SDNET.BITNET
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From:         Chris Owen <C.OWEN@QUT.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Sitelock security hole
X-To:         novell@suvm.acs.syr.edu

Fellow Sitelock users,

I installed an old version of Sitelock (3.05) here about a month ago,
and noticed a serious hole in server security as a result.  An
upgrade to 3.20 has just hit my desk this afternoon, and suffers from
the same problem.

The problem is visible to Novell's SECURITY.EXE which reports an
object with SUPERVISOR equivalence and no password.  I was able to
gain access as SUPERVISOR equivalent without needing access to a user
account on the file server.

I have passed a report of the problem to our local Brightworks
distributor.

As an immediate fix, I wrote a quick (and dirty) C program to add
station restrictions to this object, allowing only logins from the
file server.  Mail me if you need a copy.

BTW, the Directory Security Masks feature in 3.20 looks great.  It
allows you to grant extra rights to specific executables.  Great in
our case where we want an application to write to the server, but
protect the data from rogue users.  I only wish I had known that was
going to be implemented in Sitelock before I started a student on a
programming project to achieve exactly the same thing a couple of
months ago!


Regards,

Chris Owen                            |     c.owen@qut.edu.au
Computer Based Education              |     phone +61 7 864 2912
Queensland University of Technology
From: LPARK@KENTVM.BITNET (Lloyd)
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Steve,

Check the documentation on the set command.  I seem to remember a set path
command that sets the servers search path.  See if you can't make the C:\
path the first one to search.  It may allow the vrepair nlm to find the Mac
name space module.

Lloyd Park
Library Systems Office
Kent State University
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Please re-subscribe me to the list

        STEPHEN M. CATES
        University of Florida
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This is just a hello message, hoping for reply. I'm an English teacher
in Hong Kong at the Caritas Adult Education's Multi Media Education
Programme.  We've got a Novell LAN, and are developing a BBS with the
Hong Kong Society for the Handicapped, so that people-in need throughout
S. E. Asia and China may be able to learn through telecommunications tech.
We offer post 2ndary courses, serving as agents for the Vancourver Open
Learning Agency and the Catholic U. of Australia, and are looking for
others.  We are also offering English teaching courses at various loca-
tions in China.  WordPerfect, and now MacIntosh with Chinese, are in-
valuable.
.
So, what's happening?
.
Peter <hskitty@hkcpvx>
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From: mbluett@csmail.cs.uoguelph.ca (Mike Bluett)
Subject: Info: Charon 3.4 and multiple slave servers.
Organization: Computing & Communication Services, University of Guelph
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 13:30:26 GMT

Just recently we had major problems getting more than 2 servers to use the 
same Charon 3.4 gateway. See following diagram for server location:


                            Campus High Speed Backbone
              ===================================================
               |                       |                       |
            Proteon                 Proteon                 Proteon 
            Router                  Router                  Router
               |                       |                       |
       ----------------         -----------------           HAL9000
       |              |         |               |           (NW311)  
    ADMSYS          ASNET    CCSNET           Charon 
    (NW311)         (NW311)  (NW311)        (Zenith 286)


We were trying to support all of these servers on the one Charon gateway. 

Our first attempts resulted in -252 Attach errors (reported at the gateway).

The Charon.dat file had the servers in the following order:

             CCSNET    (Master)
             ASNET     (Slave)
             ADMSYS    (Slave)
             HAL9000   (Slave)

    Only ADMSYS and HAL9000 would fail with the Attach error.

We found that by first attaching to the servers (located on segments 
external to the one Charon was on) before running Charon (on the gateway 
machine) everything works well. We now have five slave servers running fron 
the one gateway in this manner and all is well.

The Autoexec.bat file on the Charon boot disk:

		ni5210 0x60 2 0x280 0xC800  
		ipx
		netx
		f:
		attach ASNET/guest
		attach ADMSYS/guest
		attach HAL9000/guest
		a:
		charon
	
There has to be a guest account on each of the remote servers. We set these 
up so that have absolutely no rights because there is no password.

Hope this proves of benefit.

Mike Bluett
Systems Analyst
The University of Guelph
Guelph, Ontario
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