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From: yxl5388@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Y.X. Liu )
Subject: Re: Metallica Bootleg ripoff!
Originator: yxl5388@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 18:09:38 GMT

In article <9209030102.aa11640@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu> "Mike (>NOT< Louis" <louisp@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU> writes:
>
>That would be a first.  I didn't think it was possible because of the entire
>concept of the CD.  Burning holes into the disc on BOTH sides doesn't seem
>possible.  Besides, if it is, how good can it sound?
>

Why not? An LD is two pieces of plastic glued together. I suppose the
same could be done with two CD's.

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From: kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Metallica Bootleg ripoff!
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:09:54 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <92246.105704TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu> TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>I was just in our local record shop here in State College and saw a CD of
>MetallicA live from somewhere in Canada, called "MetallicA Totally Destroys
>Canada" or something to that effect.  It looked to have EVERYTHING they did
>in the 180 minute version of a Montreal show I have (taped from the audience
>using DAT) and then a few covers and/or unreleased songs I'd never heard of.
>The record store wanted a whopping $52 for it!  The guy working there said it
>had great sound, but I don't trust it unless I hear it first.  Has anyone else
>seen or heard of this?  It has a picture of James gritting his teeth on the
>cover (like most MetallicA bootlegs).  ANother thing of concern...if their show
>is something like 180minutes, how can you fit all that onto one CD (it wasn't
>in the standard double CD case).  Don't CD's have a max time of 85 min. or so?
>Sounds shifty to me...anyway, I just wondered if anyone knew how rare this may
>be or whatever.  Thanks in advance for any info.
>                                                -Bill
>"Sleep with one eye open..."

CD's have a maximum time of 70 min. Also, you've got to wonder about the
quality of a bootleg, which are not known for their great sound. Either the
salesman wanted to make a sale, or he has poor listening standards. For
$52, you're better off buyin Cliff 'Em All and still have money left over
for two CD's.
From: v073pzuy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Axe Corpsegrinder)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Kill 'em All
Date: 16 Sep 92 01:21:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep14.105417.9514@bsu-ucs.uucp>, 00bjgood@bsu-ucs.uucp writes...
>In article <92257.234354DJM148@psuvm.psu.edu>, DJM148@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>> I found WARD's analysis to be quite amusing, and I agree this Maple is annoying
>> .  The sad thing is that I've only been on this Net for, oh, an 
> 
>Whether or not Maple is overreacting or not, the fact does still remain that
>Metallica was the best band around until the "black" album, now there just
>another metal band, in an average metal world. And by the way Kirk and Lars did
>look and incredibly stupid at the MTV awards. Long live And Justice For All. 

Ok, folks--this is not a "fact."

>***************************************************************************
>Brian Good							
>Ball State University			
>@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu			
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From: aharder@jarthur.claremont.edu (Alan Harder)
Subject: No Life 'Til ?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 01:22:47 GMT

 I know I have seen a post on this newsgroup about a Metallica CD called
 either No Life 'Til Power or No Life 'Til Leather that has early Met.
 demos, with Dave Mustaine on at least some of them... anyone out there
 who has this, could you tell me what the actual title is and what is on
 it???  (also, is it any good?  (qualitywise))   Thanx in advance...
From: idc@ukc.ac.uk (I.D.Catchpole)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Garage Days Re-revisted
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:17:51 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.


Is it still possible to get Garage Days Re-revisted on 
CD?  I've noticed it has disappeared from all the shops
here....now that I want to get it.

Any info would be appreciated.

Ian
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From: donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Garage Days Re-revisted
Organization: none
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:08:59 GMT

In article <1615@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> idc@ukc.ac.uk (I.D.Catchpole) writes:
>
>Is it still possible to get Garage Days Re-revisted on 
>CD?  I've noticed it has disappeared from all the shops
>here....now that I want to get it.
>
>Any info would be appreciated.
>
>Ian
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I am told that it is still available. If nothing else, order it from 
Columbia House.

					--Judex--

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From: adg2@quads.uchicago.edu (andrew david gross)
Subject: Re: Kill 'Em All CD missing songs
Reply-To: adg2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:15:01 GMT

In article <92242.145343DTG102@psuvm.psu.edu> Dave Gerber <DTG102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <Bto1zt.67@acsu.buffalo.edu>, you say:
>>
>>In article <92240.171824DTG102@psuvm.psu.edu>, DTG102@psuvm.psu.edu (Dave
>>Gerber) writes...
>>>     my Kill 'Em All tape bit the dust so I picked up the CD on my way home
>>>from work the other day.  When I got home and opened it, I discovered that
>>>Am I Evil and Blitzkrieg weren't on the CD.  =(
>>>   etc, etc, etc....
>
>>        You probably got the original Kill 'em All which was released by
>>Megaforce records, but when Metallica signed with Elecktra, all of the old
>>Megaforce records were taken off the market, and the new Elecktra version
>>which
>>includes Blitzkrieg and Am I Evil wqs put on the market.  I have an original
>>Megaforce copy too, and I think that they may be worth more than the Elecktra
>>version which has been flooded into the market since Metallica became a major
>>band and came out from the underground.
>>        Hope this was helpful.
>>                                        Jason
>
>The CD I got says Elecktra on its edge, but on the back it has both the
>Elecktra and the Megaforce logos...maybe Elecktra re-release the old
>Megaforce version for some reason?  Anyone???
>
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These threads came up months ago. As far as I can tell, there were copyright
problems with all of these covers and that is why they stopped putting
them on the albums. Try ordering from Columbia House. I got a brand new copy
of Garage Days just last week.



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From: hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins)
Subject: Re: Uh - I like Metallica too.
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 23:27:30 GMT

In article <a2824ag.715611332@sunmanager> a2824ag@sunmanager.LRZ-Muenchen.DE (Riaan de Jager) writes:
>Hi   
>
>Bought Metallica's last album. I think it's f* great.

Uh yeah, just great!  Right!  Where were a couple albums back?  Did the Manilli
Vanilli controversy drive you over?
>
>I specially like Nothing Else matters & some other accoustic parts.

Sounds like your opening yourself to flame galore!
>
>My questions are:
>
>How many albums to they have to date?
>Which are the good one's (I'm expecting people saying "ALL!" in this group)?

Just for your satisfaction - ALL!  Excluding their latest attempt!  It's okay
but definitely not up to the par of the others!
>
>If I like the tracks with some accoustics, which should I get next?
>
Try James Brown!

>Thanks.

Your welcome!

			-Casey Hopkins
			"Sad But True!" - The Mighty Met.
			
	P.S. - Bring on the true Metallifux!
	>                                      
>                                


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From: 00bjgood@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Kill 'em All
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:54:17 GMT

In article <92257.234354DJM148@psuvm.psu.edu>, DJM148@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> I found WARD's analysis to be quite amusing, and I agree this Maple is annoying
> .  The sad thing is that I've only been on this Net for, oh, an 

Whether or not Maple is overreacting or not, the fact does still remain that
Metallica was the best band around until the "black" album, now there just
another metal band, in an average metal world. And by the way Kirk and Lars did
look and incredibly stupid at the MTV awards. Long live And Justice For All. 
***************************************************************************
Brian Good							
Ball State University			
@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu			
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 03:09:45 EDT
From: <TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Kill 'em All!

Dear Maplesyrup,
   LEAVE US ALONE!  Forgive Lars for having some fun on stage!  No, I didn't
like him touching HowardFartman Stern's ass, but I don't suggest killing him
for having a sense of humor (however gross it may be).  As a matter of fact,
it's disgusting that you would suggest murder just because you're unhappy with
the artistic material someone has produced.  Isn't advocating murder some kind
of a crime?  I (as many others) don't like your posts, but I don't feel you
deserve to die for creating an ass out of yourself.  If pissing people off thru
the computer monitor is the only attention you can get, that's pitiful.  But if
you get your jollies by preaching that certain people you don't like should all
be killed, that's fucking SICK!  What kind of a "poserkiller" are you, anyway?
If you had any credibility at all, you'd kill all those posers you continually
bitch and moan about, including MetallicA.  If you had any balls you'd come
after every fucking one of us on the bandwidth who you consider a "poser"!
But you're really just some introverted little computer nerd who pretends to be
a metal fan and tries to pick harmless computer fights 'cause he knows an IBM
won't hurt him!  You, Mapleleaf, are the true POSER!!!!  Do you even know what
it means to die?  Do you know what it's like to lose a son, father, uncle,
friend, fiance', or even your favorite pet?!!!  How would you react if you got
a phone call in the middle of the night telling you your parents had been
murdered in a parking lot because someone didn't like the music they were
talking about?  What about the families of these people you propose to kill?
Do you even give a fuck?  Do you think it's funny?!!  Death is a serious topic,
in case you never realized it!  Your little rantings and ravings aren't even
the least bit entertaining.  I don't care who you want to kill, it doesn't
matter if it's Metallica or Whitney Houston.  It's fucking sick!  Think about
that when you go to sleep tonight.  Think about how funny murder is.  Think
about that phone call.  And then tell me who the Hell you think you are.

-Bill

"I was me, but now he's gone."
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From: v104n55k@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (David I Schwartz)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: CD length (Re: Metallica Bootleg ripoff!)
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:33:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

> 
>Actually, there are quite a few CDs with more than 70 minutes of
>music. The longest CD in my collection in "Pure" by Godflesh
>[recommended by yours truly], clocking in at 79 minutes and 35
>seconds. Check out rec.music.cd for a list of long CDs.
> 
>Moreover, there are slim double CD box around which take up no more
>space than a standard jewel box. For instance, "Badmotorfinger" by
>Soundgarden is now released in a slim double jewel box containing an
>extra EP.
> 
>- Hans
> 
>--
>Hans H{\"u}ttel                          - hans@iesd.auc.dk  
>Mathematics and Computer Science
>Aalborg University, Fredrik Bajersvej 7E,
>9220 Aalborg, DENMARK                    - Peace sells, but who's buying ?

Bit off the topic, but on "Badmotorfinger" does the box indicate that it comes
with the ep? I haven't bought it yet, and I want to purchase the version that
comes the ep.

Thanks!

Dave
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From: hans@iesd.auc.dk (Hans Huttel)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: CD length (Re: Metallica Bootleg ripoff!)
Date: 11 Sep 92 11:49:28 GMT
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


Just two quick comments...

In <BuDBGJ.ALs@acsu.buffalo.edu> kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist) writes:

>In article <92246.105704TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu> TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
>>ANother thing of concern...if their show
>>is something like 180minutes, how can you fit all that onto one CD (it wasn't
>>in the standard double CD case).  Don't CD's have a max time of 85 min. or so?
>>Sounds shifty to me...anyway, I just wondered if anyone knew how rare this may
>>be or whatever.  Thanks in advance for any info.
>>                                                -Bill
>
>CD's have a maximum time of 70 min.

Actually, there are quite a few CDs with more than 70 minutes of
music. The longest CD in my collection in "Pure" by Godflesh
[recommended by yours truly], clocking in at 79 minutes and 35
seconds. Check out rec.music.cd for a list of long CDs.

Moreover, there are slim double CD box around which take up no more
space than a standard jewel box. For instance, "Badmotorfinger" by
Soundgarden is now released in a slim double jewel box containing an
extra EP.

- Hans

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Hans H{\"u}ttel                          - hans@iesd.auc.dk  
Mathematics and Computer Science
Aalborg University, Fredrik Bajersvej 7E,
9220 Aalborg, DENMARK                    - Peace sells, but who's buying ?
From: jeffs@dvorak.amd.com (Jeff Sobotka)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Faith No More/Metallica/Guns N Solos in Houston
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:33:23 GMT
Organization: Nothing, Inc.

I saw them in Dallas on Saturday and I have a few comments to make.

First of all FNM sucked bad. I was really disappointed because I
love Angel Dust. Mike Patton ruined the entire show by passing
out for half of it, getting stuck under an amp during Epic (thus
making it an instrumental), and attempting to sing for the rest
of the show staring up at the sky. I wish they had dropped out of
the tour earlier so that I didn't have to see that. I agree that
they should not have played RV.

Metallica was awesome as usual. Though it would have been much
better at night (thinking back to the last time I saw them).
Marshall was good and everything went smoothly.

We were going to leave before G'N'R took stage, but I'm glad we
didn't, because I was really impressed. They really put on a
good show. And opposing past popular opinion, I thought they sounded
really good, too. Axl appeared to be completely sober and did not
cause any problems. They played some cool covers including 'Lucy in
the Sky with Diamonds', 'Wild Horses', 'Only Women Bleed' (Alice
Cooper), and the theme to 'The Godfather' which I though sounded
really good. Overall, Axl sounded really good both on piano and
singing. 

Well, this is *my* opinion, so flame away if you like!

Cheers,

-Jeff-
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From: maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple M. Moriji)
Subject: Kill 'em All!
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 02:16:44 GMT

Well, I've changed my mind.  I don't think we should just get rid of
Hetfield and Lars.  I'm certain now that we should kill all 4 of those
Metalliposers.  Did any of you see the eMpTyV awards last night?  Lars
came up stage to receive his award and makes a gay speech.  Kirk smiles
like crazy and puts his arm around Lars.  And then Lars goes over to
Howard Stern and touches his crouch.  I mean, what is this shit?
This is not the Metallica we used to know!  It's time to Kill 'em All!

Death to Metallica

C++ ya,

Maple

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From: maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple M. Moriji)
Subject: Re: <None>
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:01:28 GMT


cl129501@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
:How in the hell can you call Lars Ulrich and James Hetfield *POSERS* when they
:are the ones who started the band IN THE FIRST PLACE!  If you kill them,
:Metallica will not only "make anymore lame albums with ballads" (so you say),
:THEY WON'T MAKE ANY MORE ALBUMS, PERIOD, BECAUSE METALLICA WOULD NOT EXIST
:ANYMORE!

That is exactly what I meant!  We don't need Metallica anymore.  Sure,
they helped a lot of bands out, but now their time is over.  Let's give
bands like Megadeth and Slayer the recognition that they deserve.  Besides,
how long can you stand to see eMpTyV playing "Nothing Else Matters?"  Let's
have the dignity to sign Metallica's death certificate and call it a day.

Death to alt.r-n-r.metal.metallica!!!

President Maple
The Poserkiller

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 18:32:27 EDT
From: Mike Tierney <MBT3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: James' finger?????
 <1992Sep1.182857.23699@dvorak.amd.com> <1992Sep3.071613.4950@nmt.edu>
 <92248.023315TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu>

In article <92248.023315TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu>, <TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
>                        And of all the MetallicA or Guns N' Roses shows I've
>heard on tape, M. always puts on an awesome show and GNR always sucks, mostly
>due to the fact that Assl (oops...meant Axl) can't sing for shit live.  And

      When I saw FNM/M/GNR in Pittsburgh, Axl sounded fine.  It was early
enough in the tour that his voice wasn't burned out.  A few more dates down
the line, and they were cancelling shows because Axl was screamed out.

>Since I've never been to one of these M/GNR shows, I have one quick question:
>Who usually plays first?

      FNM/M/GNR in that order.

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MBT3@PSUVM.PSU.EDU                            -T. Arayas
mbt@ecl.psu.edu
From: schrandt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Opening Act?
Date: 14 Sep 92 01:49:07 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

To all the fans in Minneapolis (or wherever Metallica is playing on
the 14th, 15th, or 16th):
	Please e-mail me and let me know who the opening act is.  I've
heard rumors that the KC show on the 17th, for which I have tickets,
is being fronted by Skid Row.  I hope so, as I really like them, and
when I heard them from the Moscow Peace Festival in 89, they sounded
good live.  
	On another note, it's best to ignore those not worthy of your
time (or anyone else's), so when the face-less "poser-killers" make
their posts, let it pass, and they'll go away.
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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 18:42:02 EDT
From: Mike Tierney <MBT3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: I am proud.

When I created this group two years ago as a place to discuss a truly great
band, there were plenty of assholes around who thought that the idea of an
entire newsgroup for one musical group was a ridiculous idea.  I'm glad to
see you guys have proven them wrong by making this group a really cool place
for discussion.  Thanks and keep up the good work!

                                        -Mike
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From: chbaumga@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Chris Baumgartner)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Kill 'Em All CD missing songs
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:17:49 GMT


 Well, I've been fololowing this thread fsince it began and last night I
 actually found a KEA CD with "Blitzkrieg" and "Am I Evil?". It was made
 by Elektra and looked new. It *did* *not* have the songs listed on the
 back of the box, but had a red sticker on it that said something about
 "Classic Metallica" including "Blitzkrieg" and "Am I Evil?". So don't
 worry guys, you'll be able to get 'em :-)

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