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From: lunch time
Subject: Re: Two puzzles
Organization: unknown
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 02:57:42 GMT

In article <DLIU.92Dec21213914@ark.njit.edu> dliu@ark.njit.edu (Dong Liu) writes:
>>>>>> On 22 Dec 92 00:22:34 GMT, Tuya@ccmail.uoregon.edu (Tuya) said:
>
>
>Tuya>           If you can answer the first one in 10 senconds you are in
>Tuya>           good shape.  If you can answer the second one in 1 hour you
>Tuya>           are in better shape.
>
>Tuya>           1.  John starts to walk at
>Tuya>               5 miles/hour from point A to point B which are 10 miles
>Tuya>               apart.  The problem is his dog, which runs twice as fast
>Tuya>               as he does, starts with him and go back and forth in
>Tuya>               between him and point B during his walk.  Now the
>Tuya>               question is:  By the time John reaches point B, how many
>Tuya>               miles has his dog run?
>
>Tuya>           2.  A guy is told to draw one note from a box containing
>Tuya>               two.  One note is supposed to write "live" and the other
>Tuya>               "die."  But someone told him that his enemy has put down
>Tuya>               "die" on both of these notes.  When he hears this, he
>Tuya>               said: "I am saved!"  Why?
>
>That's too easy!
	
	Not really.
>
>1. his dog has run 20 miles, details left as an exercise.

	If this questions the distance between the dog and point A, the anwser
is ten miles.

>2. he destroyed the note he selected and read the other one then claimed
>that the note he selected is "live".
>
	One can only say that he believed that he would not lose in this game,
according to the question.  Why he believed this, no one can tell.  He could
be mad as he knew the truth.  He could get a premise of queen that he would
be safe as long as he found one praticed fraud in this game.

>--dong

	Just for the sake ofgame and arguing.
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: A not-so-fun question
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:33:07 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <9211237251.AA72513@ccmail.uoregon.edu> Tuya@ccmail.uoregon.edu (Tuya) writes:
>          Can you give a method to decide which of these M objects
>          should be put into the bag so the total volume of the
>          objects put into the bag is maximized?

Common sense tells me to put the largest which can fix into first.

Another common sense tells me that an obvious answer is usually wrong
;-) So what is the story behind it?

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: becker@shell.portal.com (CELIA TONY BECKER)
Subject: Re: Democracy boat sailed last year?
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 06:01:25 GMT

asia2@igc.apc.org (John Nides, Louisa Coen) writes:


>  
>From:  Diana L., Univ. of Michigan
>  
>Looking for some details about the Democracy in China boat that
>sailed from Europe to the South China sea last year.  It was 
>refused permission to dock in Taiwan to get supplies, and had to
>turn around and go back.  
>  
>Can anyone tell me the official name of the boat and the name of the
>organization that launched the boat?
>When, approximately, did the boat sail to the Pacific?
>How much money did it cost?
>Any details or a copy of any news articles would be greatly
>appreciated.
>  

Dr Diana and friends:

The ship you are inquiring about was called the "Goddess of
Democracy" and was sponsored by the Federation for a Democratic
China.  The organization is headquartered in Paris, France, has
15 national chapters and about 20-25 local chapters worldwide.

The ship was bought and largely refurbished for FDC by a Taiwanese 
businessman as his "donation."  The ship cost about $750,000.
Repairs, radio equipment, etc. cost more than a million.  Some of the
repair and other costs were borne by existing FDC funds.  These figures
were publicly reported in the last international FDC convention in 
Foster City, California in September, 1990.

The idea came from the U.S "Radio Marti" ship.  However, FDC did not
learn that even "Radio Marti" is illegal according to international
law.  It is just that there is no one "bigger" than the U.S. to ensure
the U.S. complies with such laws.  The "Goddess of Democracy" was not
so lucky.  Protests by the PRC caused several nations to refuse port to
the FDC ship and the crew ran seriously short of supplies--like food and
water.  Finally Taiwan confiscated the ship, and stripped it of almost
all its equipment.  It then sat in dry-dock for sometime awaiting the 
outcome of legal wrangles between the Taiwanese businessman and his
government.

I haven't heard any more about the ship for about a year, other than to
know it will never sail as the "Goddess of Democracy" radio ship again.

Cecilia Fabos-Becker (Lin Xing) former director of FDC-SF.




Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: mliu@pt.com (Fred Liu)
Subject: Life in this United States of America (4)
Organization: Performance Technologies, Incorporated
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:41:57 GMT


I went to a sale event (like a Nong2 Mao4 Shi4 Chang3) once.
When I enter the door, everybody was filling out forms for
a prize drawing.  I did that too, and then deposit the card
in the box.  Then recently, I received a phone cal saying
that I won a trip to Bahamas.  I did not get excited,  I
was ready to listen more.  The lady told me something about
the trip, how wonderful and how lucky I was that I won it.
Then she asked me to give her a credit card number and they
are going to charge $198.  I asked her why and she told me
that is the tax and some "promotion fee".  I didn't believe
her and I just told her that I don't want that trip.

I havn't spent nothing and they asked me the "tax".  What
kind of promotion fee is it?  I could spend just that much
money to go to Bahamas by myself!

Whenever you are told that you have won something and they
ask you to give them credit card number, be careful.  If
you havn't spend anything, you don't have to pay tax.
Even if you do, you can pay that later.  "Promotion fee"
is just one of the way that they want your money.

-- 
Fred Liu, Performance Technologies Incorporated		mliu@pt.com
315 Science Parkway, Rochester, New York 14620		uupsi!ptsys1!mliu
From: lix@thames.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Yan Xing and Qi Gong, Is It Science?
Date: 4 Jan 93 01:43:54 GMT
Organization: Boston University

In article <C0AHtq.CIq@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:
<(deleted)
<is a fellow of American Science Academy). I am very surprised that
<Yan Xing claims C. N. Yang (fellow of American Science Academy) and 
<Zhao Zhongyao (fellow of Chinese Science Academy) are both his
<supporters. Dr. Zhao Zhongyao even gave high evaluation of his
<"experiment". 

I am not. A few years ago, they played the same trick before. They
claimed how Prof. Wu JiaiPing admired QiGong. Prof. Wu had to pay
from his own pocket to advertize that he did not even attend the
QiGong lecture at all.

<I don't know if American Science Academy recognize man was created
<by God six thousand years ago. I believe they don't. I am sad that
<so many Ph. D.'s blindly believe Yan Xing. Fortunately most of
<them are only mathematicians :-).

QiGong (magic kind), Boxer Movement, Big leap Forward, and Culture
Revolution, are very special symptom of Chinese culture. We are
very specially subject to cheating, why?

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (jupiter)
Subject: Re: 9 women among 10 best
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 21:02:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.151509.18139@pt.com> mliu@pt.com (Fred Liu) writes:
>The Dec 30 1992 People's Daily reported the 10 best atheletes
>of China for the past year.  It's interesting that among the
>ten, 9 are women and the man is the last one.
>
>Where are those Chinese men?
>
>-- 
>Fred Liu, Performance Technologies Incorporated		mliu@pt.com
>315 Science Parkway, Rochester, New York 14620		uupsi!ptsys1!mliu


Well, according to the U.S. news media, performance enhancing
drugs do not affect men quite to the extent as it affects
women.
From: aghanda3@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Air Tickets for Sale: CA to FL
Date: 26 Dec 92 02:56:02 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

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From: sijin@dxcern.cern.ch (Sijin Qian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Two puzzles
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:41:19 GMT
Organization: CERN European Laboratory for Particle Physics

In article <wshi.724998309@ponder> wshi@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Weiping Shi) writes:
>Here is a not-so-easy one:
>
>Given two points on the plane, use ONLY a compass
>(yuan2 gui1) to find the center of the two points.
>NOTE: You cannot use straight edge (zhi2 chi3).

Easy! Do the following:
(1) Draw 2 circles with centres at the 2 points by the compass; the radii of
  the circles are the same and larger than the half of the distance between
  2 points.
(2) Draw a straight line between 2 intersections of the 2 circles.
(3) Draw a straight line between 2 centres of the circles.
(4) The intersection of the lines in (2) and (3) is the centre you want!
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 02:31:41 EST
From: <XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: A not-so-fun question

 >From: Tuya@ccmail.uoregon.edu (Tuya)
 >Subject: Re: A not-so-fun question
 >Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 23:11:17 GMT
 >
 >          Ok.  Let us put it this way:
 >
 >          You have M projects to invest in, each requiring a given
 >          amount of money, no more, no less.  But you only have N
 >          dollars which can only cover some of the projects.  Now,
 >          which of these projects should you invest so the total
 >          investment is maximized?

                 Try Monte Carlo.

 >
 >          Put yourself in the position of a central planning economy
 >          leader who has the glorious responsibility to plan the next
 >          year's guo2 min2 jing1 ji4, such as Stalin and Mao zhuxi,
 >          and think hard -- only socialism can save China.

                 That could be another problem
                 and criteria and method.
                 Ask the leaders what bother them
                 most.
                 Think hard--what is socialism?
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: pinyin reform
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:18:26 GMT

In article <1h4hn5INNmhn@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> rap@doc.ic.ac.uk writes:
>From article <1h3u3kINNpms@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>, by lug@oak.ppc.ubc.ca (Guoqiano Lu):
>> You may not  believe that a well trained Han Zi typing person can beat
>> an English counterpart.
>
>That is surprising, given that a typist trained for an alphabetic writing
>system need not lift his or her eyes from the text being copied, and can
>type faster than speech, and much faster than handwriting.
>
>What input method for hanzi was used?  Where does this study appear?
the "well trained" could be a superman. Only under similar condition, the 
comparision can be meaningful.
The andvatages of PinYin are much more sigificant than it's disadvantages, if
there is any.
From: yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh)
Subject: Top 10 things for China 1993  (personal prediction)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Organization: Netix Communications, Inc.
Date: 3 Jan 93 22:19:01 GMT

1. The economical growth will have to be slowed down in July 1993.
2. The significant inflation will happen in October 1993.
3. Jiang Zemin will face a new power chanllenge in November 1993.
4. Hongkong will protest CCP's foreign trade policy because of the GATT things.
5. Yellow River flooding will happen in the summer of 1993.
6. Shanghai stock market will be collapsed before October 1993, and the 
   ShenZhen stock market will be in the same situation before November 1993.
7. Li Peng will play the major role again at the end of 1993.
8. 100% of the Chinese universities will become credit stores by the end of 
   1993, because 90% of the Chinese professors become poor people again.
9. Deng Xiaoping will die in 1993.
10. Some student movements will happen in 1993.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
From: wang@math.psu.edu (Feng Wang)
Subject: Re: Looking Back From 2992 - The disastrous 21st century
Organization: Penn State Department of Mathematics
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 23:21:57 GMT

In article <C07173.7x3@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:
>In article <C070Et.KLw@cs.psu.edu> wang@math.psu.edu (Feng Wang) writes:
>>
>>The year 2992 --- almost a thousand years from now?  At that time, the
>>`disastrous 21st century' will be ancient history.  I wonder how much
>>sense the names `China', `Japan' etc. will make to people then, and
>>how many people will care about them.
>>
>
>What does patriotism mean in 2992?
>


Looking back into the Spring-Autumn era, patriotism existed at that time,
but its meaning was quite different from now.  So if we look into the
future, a thousand years from now, the notion of patriotism will probably
still exist, but the meaning of it could be very different from the present
meaning.  How different?  This is a good question for science fiction
writers.  I like the vivid imagination of Isaac Asimov in his Robot-Empire-
Foundation novel series.  The issue is also presented in the TV show
Star Trek series.  Any SF fans out there?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: sosc1069@highway.yorku.ca (Ming He)
Subject: Re: Looking for possible investment
Organization: Comp. Sci.  York Univ.  Toronto
	<BzyH53.MFp@helios.physics.utoronto.ca>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 02:12:37 GMT

### On Mon, 28 Dec 1992 06:10:14 GMT, hu@aurora.physics.utoronto.ca (Min Hu) said:

Min% In article <1992Dec26.142732.24029@jho.com> john@jho.com (John Ho) writes:
>hu@aurora.physics.utoronto.ca (Min Hu) writes:

[...]

Min% On the contradictory, I have got some responses from this group.
Min% But I have found nothing from alt.suckers, especially
Min% alt.suckers.ho's.mother. Thanx for not so bad and not so good
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	Gee, if you greet John Ho's mother though email, then less
	people will know how rude you are.

	By the way, that group should be alt.suckers.john_ho's.mother.
	alt.suckers.ho's.mother is much larger.

	Ming He (spell in HK as 'Ho')


Min% suggestion anyway.

Min% HU MIN from Toronto, Ontario, Canada


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From Beijing, China.  Like to watch to the transference of data.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
From: bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens)
Subject: Re: Is Hong Kong people Chinese? (Was: Re: Is Taiwanese CHinese?)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 04:19:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1gtkoqINNa8h@agate.berkeley.edu> vchan@haas.berkeley.edu (Vincent Chan) writes:
>>
>
>	Let me add some more :
>
>	If they don't think they are Chinese, get rid of their Chinese
>	last name and don't use Chinese characters !!
 
If you don't think you are Roman, don't use Roman characters; if
you don't think you are English, don't use English first names...

Right? :-)

Luc B
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From: huangz@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Newwer China
Date: 29 Dec 92 20:31:45 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia

1. About one week ago, Chinese government ordered the French consulate in
   Guangzhou to be closed, responding France selling 50 fighters to Taiwan.
          
      -- I thought:"Right! But no enough!"

   Today I learned that Guangzhou mayor Li Ziliu had told the French that 
   they would not been offered a chance to take the contract of $billions
   Guangzhou subway project, according to instructions from CG.

      -- I feel better now.

2. The first privately run TV station in China will open in 1 January 1993.
   The Southeast Broacasting Cooperate is based in Fujian, its programs will
   be broacasted through satellite Asia-I, and can be received all around 
   south-east Asia. 

      -- Long live SBC!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (jupiter)
Subject: Re: Mongolia
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 14:05:46 GMT


The issue of self determination has recently been used very
successfully by the West to break up and weaken its enemies.
The former U.S.S.R. is a prime example.  The U.S. attempt to
impose its no fly zone over Iraq is another example in which
the U.S. tries to stir up and protect the separatist factions
in Iraq.  

There is now a very strong independence movement in Hawaii by
the native Hawaians.  Where are these scholars who yell so
loudly for the Mongolian's and Tibetian's right to self determination
now?  Where is the native Hawaian's right to self determination?

These U.S. educated history "scholars" who yell loudly for
self determination are the biggest hypocrits.

.
From: yidao@cae.wisc.edu (Yidao Cai)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: What happened to the Long March?
Keywords: Rocket
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:24:48 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering

In article <Bzq2rt.7J2@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin) writes:
>In article <8228@news.duke.edu> feng@phy.duke.edu (Yutao Feng) writes:
As I know, the Chinese side is only reponsible for sending the satellite to
near-earth orbit and give the orbit parameters to the US side.  This should
end hours after the launch.  The US then take the control and fire a rocket
built in the satellite sending it to the geo-static orbit.  I think it is 
less likely the Chinese's fault and I guess that was the reason Peter Jennings
did not want to waste another 5 seconds to explain why. 

>>Anyone knows the detail about what actually happened to the Chinese rocket
>>Long March II, lauching the Australia communications satellite?
>>Peter Jennings said on ABC last night that the satellite was lost. But didn't
>>give details. The Long March is said to have a 100% success rate in the past,
>>as I heard from the chinese official media. 
>>
> It has nothing to do with Long March II, something went wrong with the
> satelite itselfe. 
> Why did you put your doubt on the Long March so natually? 
>                                                      
> BTY, "the chinese official media" was right, but don't tell us you
> heared it last month.  Read more People's daily, or listen to Radio
> Beijing more often.
>
>YY
>     
> heared that last month
>
>>-- 
>>	Yutao Feng ~{7kSpLN~}		Tel.(919)660-2644
>>	 ~{6E?K4sQ'No@mO5~} FEL Lab	Email: feng@phy.duke.edu
>
>
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Corolla GTS forsale
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:45:46 GMT
Reply-To: songhua@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu ([hello])
Distribution: tx
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: WSSCHW01@nyx.uni-konstanz.de (Bo Li)
Subject: Help: About Central Michigan Uni.
Organization: University of Konstanz, Germany
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:19:45 GMT

Hi, All,

I need some help from you, especially thoses who are in Michigan,
about the Central Michigan University.

I'll fly over from Germany to Mount Pleasant to attend the school.
Currently I'm busy looking for a ticket but all I can get is one for
New York city. The travel agency told me that there's one flight from
NY to Lansing each day. I need to confirm that and would also like to
know about the price.

I also tried to contact the International Student Service in the
school. But unfortunately there's nobody there right now. So I'd like
to ask you if you know any other Chinese guy there in CMU.

Any info would be very much appreciated. But PLEASE e-mail it to me
at: wei@rz-uxazs.fh-konstanz.de, since I don't have much time to read
this group. And please ignore this message after 8 Jan. 1993 for my
flight to NY is on 11 Jan, 1993.

Thanks in advance for your help.

WANG, Wei
From: ygu@eve.eng.uci.edu (Yifan Gu)
Subject: Re: Mongolia
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 31 Dec 92 21:42:17 GMT



>Please read a little more history beyond the abridged and reformed
>materials fed to you by the communist Chinese government.  There are
>many excellent books by historians of many countries in most 
>university libraries.

>Last, what ever happened to democracy in this discussion?  Shouldn't
>the Mongolians have the same right to self-determination as the
>Chinese or any other nation's people?  Shouldn't a plebiscite among
>Mongolians determine any merger with China?  That so many people
>in this discussion argued so strongly for "taking over Mongolia,"
>or not recognizing it as an independent nation, shows how much 
>mainland Chinese have yet to learn about democracy and fairness.

Some of these words sound like ABC/NBC/CBS news. 

I came from mainland China. Never in my life (21 yrs in mainland) I heard anyone talking
about "taking over Mongolia" when I was in China.  The fact that Mongol had been (sort of) 
part of China was vaguely reminded only in casual conversations. 

Believe me, Chinese people do have a strong sense of fairness; not less than any other
people, I believe.

We need to study democacy. No doubt about it; so does every body in this world.

I respect the idea of democacy when I hear it from intelectulls that I respect, but I
have strong suspicion when it came out the mouth of politicians and ABC/BBC/NBC/CNN/CBS.