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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:17:02 -0400
From:         gaynet@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Subject:      GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 589

In this issue:
        Important Announcement 4 GLB Stud, Fac, & Alumni Groups
     Annoucing - Interactive, National Multimedia GLB Guide Service
                             Lance Ringnald
             HIV+ Republican Woman to Speak at Repub. Conv.
                             "Living a Lie"
                                TEAM USA
                    GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 588
                              Bye for now
                  Paris hints; drum & bugle corps fans
                    Republican Convention Zap Plans
                                 Locke
                     Toyota...Oh!! What a feeling!!
                        Help us select a slogan!

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Date: 30 Jul 92 03:31:03 EDT
From: Brian S McConnell <71460.1571@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Important Announcement 4 GLB Stud, Fac, & Alumni Groups

AN IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR EVERY GLB STUDENT, FACULTY AND ALUMNI
ORGANIZATION IN THE UNITED STATES

You are entitled to a free database listing, and unlimited access
to two interactive voice mailboxes on the BarPhone system to
describe your organization, give contact information, and
promote upcoming events. This service will allow any caller
with a TouchTone phone to locate GLB friendly businesses and
organizations by city, by state, by category or by university
name. This service is automated, tightly interactive and very
easy to use. It will be promoted nationally in gay/lesbian
publications, and will provide every gay or lesbian person in
the country with easier access to community resources than ever
before.

What's more, the information that we gather will be ported into
many media, and will be made widely available without many
restrictions. For example, the information will be accessible
(by early 1993) in voice, fax and videotex [possibly via the
Internet] formats. And, since the information gathering aspect of
the service is almost 100% automated, updates are processed
immediately without operator error, are immediately carried
through to the other media outlets, and allow us to provide the
service at a very reasonable cost to the general public conducting
searches.

We currently know of approximately 450 glb student organizations
in the US, and will be sending pre-registered mailboxes and access
codes to them. However, we do not know of so many faculty organizations.
We are in contact with NetGALA about alumni organizations, but any
help is appreciated.

To get your organization online, this is all you have to do. Send
us a self-addressed, stamped envelope, and we will deliver your
account information and instructions as soon as possible. When you
get your packet in the mail, you'll be able to get started right
away. In the meantime, if you would like to get an idea of how
BarPhone works, just call (703)951-GIDE   951-4433, and feel free
to roam around. You won't be able to login, but you will be able
to get an idea of how the system works. In a few days, you'll be
able to conduct sample searches of our database.

Send SASE to Commonwealth Multimedia, attn: University Guide,
PO Box 365, Blacksburg, VA 24063-0365. Remember our information
providers hotline is (703)951-GIDE [look for an 800 access number
in Sept. 1992 when our public 900 service goes online]

Please send us an feedback, suggestions or comments you might have
to 71460.1571@compuserve.com attn: Brian S McConnell.

Enjoy!

Brian McConnell, Director
Commonwealth Multimedia, Inc. - A Gay Owned, Gay Operated
				Communications Technology Firm
				In Virginia.

5% of profits go to GLB charities

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Date: 30 Jul 92 03:31:32 EDT
From: Brian S McConnell <71460.1571@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Annoucing - Interactive, National Multimedia GLB Guide Service

N e w s   f r o m
Commonwealth Multimedia  ____
PO Box 365		 \  /
Blacksburg, VA 24063-0365 \/

For Immediate Release

				Gay Entrepeneurs Launch
			 National Interactive Multimedia Guide
    	                    For the Gay/Lesbian/Bi Community

Blacksburg, VA (Aug 1) - Commonwealth Multimedia, Inc, a gay owned, gay
operated communications technology firm announced the launch of an
interactive national service which will allow anyone with an ordinary
touch tone telephone to locate gay/lesbian friendly businesses, community
organizations, current events and university organizations nationwide.
The system, called BarPhone, will provide a rich suite of applications,
using voice, fax and videotex technologies.

Information on BarPhone is provided by any gay/lesbian friendly business,
organization, community group, or campus group wishing to post information
in our interactive database (which is used by our search engine), and in
two voice mailboxes (one for current event or general info, the other for
giving directions to a storefront or event location). These services are
offered absolutely free to information providers. [SPECIAL NOTICE FOR
GLB STUDENT, FACULTY AND ALUMNI ORGANIZATIONS FOLLOWS THIS MESSAGE]

Starting in early September, the general public will be able to use Bar
Phone via one of two 900 numbers. One number is designed for intercity
travelers, and gives callers the ability to search for listings and current
event information in every state of the union. The second number is
designed to accelerate searches in the area near the callers home town.
Both numbers are competitively priced. Searches are streamlined to minimize
waiting. In the case of the local (hometown) search service, it is actually
more economical to scan several establishments or organizations for current
events via BarPhone than to call them directly (in cities where a crosstown
call is a toll call). [The access numbers will not be given in this forum
to avoid conflict with Internet posting guidelines.]

Also available from day one will be a national university guide. This service
will allow callers to type in the name of any university (i.e. their alma
mater), and find out about student, faculty and alumni organizations at
the institution. Listings for university related organizations are provided
free of charge. Call (703)951-GIDE for more information.

Starting in Fall 1992, BarPhone information services will be ported into
other media such as fax (have maps and other travel information faxed back
to you automatically), and videotex (we are planning to port all or part of
our databases into a multiport BBS which will be accessible nationwide.) In
addition to the locator services, we will be providing numerous marginal
services such as: weekly updated messages from DJs on the hottest dance and
C&W music being played in the clubs, and we are looking into providing breaking
news through the service as well.

For more information contact:

Brian S McConnell
John W Walker
PO Box 365
Blacksburg, VA 24063-0365
Tel:(703)951-4475	: Office Line
    (703)951-4433 GIDE  : Information Providers Hotline
Fax:(703)951-4016
Eml:71460.1571@compuserve.com

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Date: Thursday, 30 July 92 07:33:31 CST
From: LLRLF%UTXDP.BITNET@utxvm.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Lance Ringnald

Hello, Netters:
I wanted to point out to Locke that I never said Lance Ringnald was dating
fellow gymnast Trent Demas. I just said that they were the best of friends,
and that Trent was helping Lance train for the Olympics several years ago.
I also asked whether their friendship was something other than "JUst Being
Good Friends".  Locke, please get your facts straight (pardon the pun) before
you post anything.  Thanks.

Richard Foster
UT Austin, Texas

P.S.: However, wouldn't it be neat if they were dating each other?  They're
both just ADORABLE!

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:14:43 -0500
From: Mike! <mike.w.miller.40@nd.edu>
Subject: Re: HIV+ Republican Woman to Speak at Repub. Conv.

Ron Buckmire reports

>>From The New York Times (7/20/92):
>
>    Mary D. Fisher, a member of a socially prominent Republican
>    family, has asked to speak about AIDS at the Republican
>    National Convention next month in Houston.  Ms. Fisher, who
>    has tested positive for the HIV virus, would follow the
>    precedent set by Bob Hattoy and Elizabeth Glaser, who spoke
>    at the Democratic National Convention last week about having
>    AIDS.

Great -- this is wonderful news!

Now we can have a heterosexual woman tell all about how she caught this
evil faggot disease and how the government should do more to help the
innocent victims of this lifestyle disease.  Perhaps she'll even have the
insight to make the connection between the degenerate homosexual lifestyle
(read: "those who attack traditional family values") and its direct
contribution to the breakdown of American society through the spread of
this disease to the innocent masses.

Maybe she can defend the Republican stance that abstinance should be the
only method of disease prevention taught.

Maybe she can explain why there was no significant federal AIDS spending
throughout the Reagan years.

Maybe she can even tell us that if she lived in another country, she
*shouldn't* be allowed to visit the United States.

Let her speak.  And let the Republican hypocrisy flow.


Thrilled,
Mike!

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*  ______  |  Mike! <=> Mike W. Miller           office:  219 239-8024  *
|  \    /  |  e-mail:  Mike.W.Miller@nd.edu    home/fax:  219 237-0788  |
|   \  /   +------------------------------------------------------------+
|    \/    |  Silence=Death                                Action=Life  |
*          |  Office of University Computing, University of Notre Dame  *
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 09:27:44 -0400
From: 78witherspoo@cuavax.dnet.cua.edu (Don't damn me when I speak a piece of
 mind, 'cos silence isn't golden when I'm holdin' it inside...)
Subject: "Living a Lie"

Hey there.

I just have a question for Peter, regarding his very well written posting on
Lt. Thorne's comments on "The Larry King Show."

You said: "I think the phrase 'living a lie' can/should only describe those
people who are closeted but not having chosen it -- the folks described in one
netter's sig file as 'in a coma' about their orientation."

From this sentence it seems like what you are saying is that there is some sort
of "force" that is preventing les/bi/gay people from coming out.  I'm not
talking about socio/economic/political/familial forces-- those are there, I
won't dispute that-- but some other force, probably psychological (perhaps
instinctual?) that is interfering with the process of revealing one's sexual
orientation.  Also, just because a person remains closeted, for whatever
reason, is this person "in a coma" regarding their orientation??

I disagree very strongly on that point.

I think that Lt. Thorne's comments were born out of the intense anger and
frustration he has been undergoing recently.  He probably didn't mean to slam
the portion of the les/bi/gay community who is closeted at this time,
certainly that will change.  The closeted people I have known, my best friend
in particular, are all too aware of their sexuality-- that's why they keep it
hidden in the first place.

IMHO, what needs to occur is an atmosphere that is more _conducive_ to this
process.  Education of strayts is one way to go about it, but there must be
some others.  Anyone got any ideas?  I feel very strongly that just educating
us "poor breeders" isn't enough.

Okay, I meant to post this yesterday, but my lousy DEC terminal crashed on me!
(God I hate inferior equipment...) So I hope this doesn't drag this out too
long.  There have already some fine responses to this article, so this is just
my own 2 cents...

Good walking everyone,

Blessed be,

Tom W.

P.S. How are all those alternative union ceremonies going out there?  Let me
know if you find anything interesting....

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		*                            	       *
		*   "Hangin' out by the state line,    *
                *    Turnin' holy water into wine,     *
		*        Bringin' it down..."          *
		*                                      *
		*  78witherspoo@cuavax.dnet.cua.edu    *
		*                                      *
		*	  Tom Witherspooon             *
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 09:55:27 EDT
Subject: TEAM USA
From: An Anonymous Sender

Thanks for the info on Greg Louganis.  It wasn't my impression from hearing
my friend's story that he was pressured for *being* gay, only that he was
pressured after coming out (celebrity style)...which I didn't think he had.
 Glad to hear the story is incorrect.  As far as team USA goes, well it
would be more than just our olympic athletes that would be out of a job,
people just aren't as suspect of other pro-sports, ya know?    :)
PS does anyone know anything about the wrestler-turned-diver that was on tv
last night (I forget his name)  Boy, he had one serious AT-TI-TUDE!

                                            Locke

"I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is.  I
only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that
differentiate me from a doormat, or a prostitute."   -Rebecca West, 1913

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From: Tim Cook <timc@kbss.bt.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 11:34:19 BST
Subject: Re: GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 588

Re: Bank of America / Wells Fargo

Can I ask a favour to those who post addresses/phone numbers so we can
write/call our support. Can you put the regular phone/fax numbers as well
as the toll free ones. Not all countires outside of the US can dial toll-free
numbers (we used to be able to in the UK but not any more).

Thanks very much.

tim

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:20:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Medlin <jmedlin@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Bye for now
Mime-Version: 1.0

Too much to do before I go on vacation.  I'm not going to do e-mail while
on vacation.  Lord only knows what my desk will look like when I get back.
 I'm going to check out of Gaynet for a few weeks.  I'm already ten posts
behind--just cancelled 'em all.  Don't burn each other up.  Save the good
stuff for autumn when I hope to be back.  Happy summer to all.  John

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Date: 30 Jul 1992 10:24:14 -0600 (CST)
From: John Morrow <jmorrow@extc.cee.umn.edu> (Couns)
Subject: Paris hints; drum & bugle corps fans
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
X-Popmail-Charset: English

I would love to hear from any netters that have information or first hand
knowledge about what to do/see/avoid in PARIS (gay and otherwise).  I'll be
there from September 2-15, 1992.  I don't speak French and would also be
interested in hearing what other non-French-speaking persons experiences
have been.

                           ALSO

Are there any DRUM & BUGLE CORPS fans out there on the net?  I'd like to
hear what's happening in different parts of the country (or the world).
I'll be in Madison, Wisconsin for DCI Championships Aug 11-15--anyone else?

Send messages to me directly at:

jmorrow@extc.cee.umn.edu

John Morrow  Continuing Education & Extension Counseling
             University of Minnesota
             (612) 626-1383                                    Thanks!!!

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:39:01 -0500
From: Mike! <mike.w.miller.40@nd.edu>
Subject: Republican Convention Zap Plans

=============================================================
News from the Lesbian/Gay/Bisexual Commission of the
Democratic Socialists of America.  Reported via the mailing
list DSA-LGB-request@midway.uchicago.edu

You may reproduce this information freely provided you credit
the source.
=============================================================

MIDWEST ACTIVISTS UNVEIL ZAP OF REPUBLICAN CONVENTION:

Activists from several Midwestern chapters of the Democratic
Socialists of America (DSA), Queer Nation, and ACT UP are
planning a caravan to the Republican National Convention in
Houston to draw attention to the Reagan and Bush administrations'
willful neglect of the AIDS crisis in this country and around
the world.

ACT UP chapters have rented some vans and are paying for some
hotel rooms in Houston -- caravan participants will get free
lodging and transportation on a first come, first serve basis.
For those unable to stay for the entire convention (August 15
through 21 including travel time) one van may return early.

If you live in the upper Midwest and want more information
about the caravan, call Patrick Flaherty, a member of Milwaukee
DSA and ACT UP Milwaukee, at 414-789-1636.  Lower Midwest
residents should contact ACT UP Kansas City at 816-753-5930.

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*  ______  |  Mike! <=> Mike W. Miller           office:  219 239-8024  *
|  \    /  |  e-mail:  Mike.W.Miller@nd.edu    home/fax:  219 237-0788  |
|   \  /   +------------------------------------------------------------+
|    \/    |  Silence=Death                                Action=Life  |
*          |  Office of University Computing, University of Notre Dame  *
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Date: Thursday, 30 July 92 10:43:08 CST
From: LLRLF%UTXDP.BITNET@utxvm.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Locke

<My sincerest apologies for my response to Locke.  You aren't the one who
misread my posting about Lance Ringnald, it was Mike Miller.  I want to
apologize for asking you to check your references before you send out your
postings, I just mixed up your name and Mike's.
<to mike Miller: Please read my last posting to Locke.  Hope you don't get
to mad at me.

Richard Foster
UT Austin

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Date: 30 Jul 1992 11:20:01 -0600 (MDT)
From: C_SWANSON@CCNODE.Colorado.EDU
Subject: Toyota...Oh!! What a feeling!!
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT

You all may have heard this already, but Toyota dealerships in
Australia ran an ad showing a gay couple...and the heading read

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From: corywest@is.rice.edu (Cory Richard West)
Subject: Help us select a slogan!
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 12:42:01 CDT

	Hi everyone!  GALOR, the Gays and Lesbians of Rice, is trying
to come up with a snappy slogan for our T-shirts.  The shirts will be
worn by lesbian, gay, bisexual, and heterosexual people alike, so we
need to stay inclusive.  One slogan that we like a lot (but it's
already been taken by a local organization) is: Love Knows No Gender.
The slogan wil be printed on the back of the shirt in block letters,
so it should be to the point and short.

	All suggestions are welcome.  Please send ideas to galor@rice.edu.
Many thanks!  I'll let y'all know the outcome.


				Cory West,
				President of GALOR
				Rice University

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