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From: lib1p@elroy.uh.edu (Tammy Stark Blandino)
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Subject: Re: In Defense of Libraries...
Date: 25 Dec 1992 15:06 CST
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In article <1992Dec24.214815.259@acuson.com>, lawson@acuson.com (Drew Lawson) writes...
>In article <9212231627.AA16580@icdi10.COMPU.COM> fred@cdin-1.compu.com writes:
> 
>>Fred
>>
>>PS Did I mention that the California libraries are off limits to me because I
>>live in this little tiny state of New Jersey where we really only have one
>>major public university?
> 
>Allow me (speaking completely with no authority) to use this as an
>example of the source of some of those rules which frustrate you.  It
>is all a matter of perspective.
> 
>The California libraries are funded primarily (assumption) by the state
>and local governments of California.  This means that acquisitions,
>cataloging, building overhead, etc. is paid for by users and
>taxpayers.  The users (where there are user fees) get what they pay
>for, subsidized by the state.
> 

The problem is that this is true for ALL LIBRARIES in EVERY STATE!  There
are two states that are truly unfriendly where inter-loaning is concerned...
California and New York.  The funny part is that its not because they
buy everything and nobody else does.  Texas, Illinois, Indiana, often come
up as holders of rare materials on my OCLC screen.  Certain library codes
can usually be found.  Of those that are in California they are usually
CLU (UCLA) and CUY (Berkeley) and that's it if at all.  

Realize that if CA doesn't want to loan stuff to other people, other people
might not want to loan to them.  And I have found many times when CA didn't
own something that several others have.  Also realize that research is not
divided up by state.  What is discovered in one state helps all 50.

We are in the information age.  Yet people seem more interested in keeping
things for themselves.  How can we move ahead if we seem insistant on holding
ourselves back?

Tammy the unbelieving at the stupidity of it all


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From:         TAZ <MCKINESS@FNAL.BITNET>
Subject:      Also Problems with FirstSearch

When I tried to login to FirstSearch I also got the same message
that authorization number: 100077527 and Password: fsearch do not
match.

Becky Knol
From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
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Date: 20 Dec 92 13:47:57 GMT
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jlc5f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jean L. Cooper) writes:

>degrees.  You could ask for a photocopy of relevant pages,
>or get an acquaintance in that area to photocopy those
>pages for you.

That's always a neat trick if you don't even know if there are any relevant 
pages. Most of the time that's the whole point of getting the book: to find 
out.

fred
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From:         Roy@SOC.SSCNET.UCLA.EDU
Subject: PAF tricks: Adding a second marriage

Since there is talk about PAF "tricks" I'll add a trick I just discovered.
Several people have said that they find PAF Pedigree (4 on the Family
Records menu) easier than the standard "Add" menu for adding individuals and
families.  (I still find it awkward and cumbersome to add lots of people;
they should have defaults for things like "Which position in the family do
you want this child?"--the default being "Next available number"  and "Do you
want to add another child?" etc.  It takes too many key strokes to add each
child).  Anyway, I was having trouble adding second marriages.  If you
indicate "Spouse" it only allows access to the first spouse.  If you indicate
"Other spouse" it retorts that the individual has only one spouse.  I found
myself having to go the "Modify" menu.  But I discovered a quick way:
 Use the "Add child" routine.  When it asks you for the position in the
family, don't give him/her a position the family, but press "Enter" which
will leave him/her dangling in space with no connection to any other person.
Then when you are back in the main screen, indicate "Rin" and give the RIN
for the person you added.  You can then give him/her a spouse by typing "s"
and "2" for a person in the dataset that you know the RIN for.  The logic is
similar to the trick several people suggested for adding single parents to
children already in the dataset.

Bill Roy
SNAIL MAIL:
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  UCLA
  Los Angeles, CA 90024
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Subject:      Southern Historical Press

In case anyone on this list is interested in writing for their catalog,
here it is.  This probably is the most useful source of genealogical
research books, at least that I've found, for the South (USA).

Steve

Southern Historical Press
P.O. Box 1267
Greenville, SC 29602-1267
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From:         pm@FLOYD.ATT.COM
Subject:      Wall Charts from PAF (MAC)

Hi, I would like to be able to print wall charts showing all members of my
family from PAF version 2.1.  I checked previous ROOTS-L requests for such
a capability and found that Mark Taylor "marktaylor@aol.com" had a program
called Gedcompanion that was supposed to print wall charts.

I sent mail to Mark but have not received any response.  Does anyone have
a phone number or other way to get a hold of Mark?  Also, is Gedcompanion
on an anonymous ftp server anywhere?

Is there anything better than Gedcompanion?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.  Happy holidays!

p.s. Please respond directly to "floyd!pm@att.com" as I am not on the ROOTS-L
     mail group.  Thanks
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Subject:      Needed: Info about Canadian National Railroad (CNR)

Does anyone on the net know if the Canadian National Railroad is still in
existence AND where records of former CNR employees could be located?  My
mothers uncle was a longtime employee of CNR and we would appreciate any
information someone might have about how we might access any of his records.
Thanks in advance.

David L. Storla
E-mail:  SYSDAVES@CWU.BITNET
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From: eggertj@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: another question
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:59:05 GMT
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In article <1992Dec23.065432.13281@compu.com> fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home) writes:
>   Those who have scrounged thru the IGI indexes know that the LDS has some 
>   rather broad categories for areas of Germany. 
>
>   The problem with alphabetic inquiry is the spelling/soundex problem.
>
>   A name could be stuck underneath thousands of others based upon the soundex 
>   code. Is there no way to look for anything by city, county or church?
>
>   The LDS lists the available records that they have in their library which are 
>   apparently microfilmed and entered into the IGI. 
>
>   Or am I wrong in that they store stuff which they've not keyed into their 
>   massive database?

The software used to access the IGI is relatively crude.  The surnames
are stored by name classes (my term), which allows for some spelling
variation.  Location, date, and parentage (for baptisms) information
is in the IGI, but you can't really search on them (except partially
by date).  Thus if you want all Brenners from Bremen, you can't
easily get it, even though the information is in there.  What a pain!

=Jim
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 10:55:22 MST
Reply-To:     Joe Price <price@PHYSICS.ISU.EDU>
From:         Joe Price <price@PHYSICS.ISU.EDU>
Subject:      Packard Bell computers
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Awhile back I asked ROOTS-L persons about their experiences with Packard
Bell computers since I was thinking about upgrading my computer or replacing
it with one that had a larger memory and a larger disk.  I received about
a dozen replies but due to a system failure I lost all but two of the messges.
Two persons were happy with their Packard Bell computers.  Two or three others
said that I should go for the cheapest system that would serve my purposes
and they gave me the names of some mail order firms.  The names of the firms
disappeared when the system failure occured.  The other responses recommended
against buying a Packard Bell computer.  The main reasons were the trouble
that they had had with theirs and the non-standard components used in them.
Upgrades and replacement were avilable only thru Packard Bell.

I indicated that I would post a summary of the results and the above is the
best that I can do under the circumstances.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

Joe Price
Pocatello, ID
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From:         STEINER@MUPPET.DNET.GE.COM
Subject:      RE: Need help with rubbings and relation chart.
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Ron Prine, prine@lle.rochester.edu, asked about rubbings:

Heritage Books in VA used to sell a rubbing kit.  I don't have the
address handy but can get it for you.

Gary
steiner@muppet.dnet.ge.com
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From: rikv@rikv.mentorg.com (Rik Vigeland)
Subject: Re: Mulattos and the census
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 22:43:25 GMT
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In article <1992Dec31.210113.24769@news.eng.convex.com>, rcox@convex.UUCP (Robert Cox) writes:
|> Does anyone know of any good reference books or other materials which give
|> suggestions on researching people of mixed race (what the census refers to 
|> as mulattos)?  Also, are mulattos always people of mixed Caucasian-Negro 
|> ancestry, or is this term also used in the census for people of any mixed
|> racial ancestry?  Also, what percentage of a person's ancestry must be of 
|> a non-Caucasian race before that person is considered mulatto?  Did the 
|> census taker ask for the person's race, or did he just give his own best 
|> guess? 
|
Robert, There is one good book called, simply, "Black Genealogy".  It actually defines
many different terms for being half, 1/4, 3/4, 1/8, 1/16.  SOme that I can remember
are:  1/2 = mulatto, 1/4 = quadroon, 1/8 = octaroon.  Theoretically, a person can be
octaroon and not show any negro features, which is the case of a ggg grandfather of mine
who "passed" (as they say) as "white".  Most census takers would simply put "mulatto" for
anyone not very dark, "black" if they were.  There were letters designating some of these,
B,W,M (black, white, mulatto) and, where appropriate, I=Indian, C=Chinese or any asian.

Indians and blacks frequently mixed, so oftentimes it may be hard to tell on a census.
Some census takers would simply choose between "white" and "Colored", depending on how
little effort they wanted to put into it.  Many other records are similar.

There are many good resources for Afro-American research.  There is a national society,
the Afro-American Genealogical Society, based in Wash., D.C., and there are many state
"chapters" as well.  If you have access, ftp or mail for an index to vm1.nodak.edu and
look in the ROOTS-L listings for some of the "black" resource files.

Rik Vigeland
rikv@mentorg.com


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From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Subject: Re: Halifax, Nova Scotia--job "lab", illegitimate children baptisms
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Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 20:44:03 GMT

robert@sherlock.oas.uci.edu (Robert Morey) writes:

>      Also, apparently there was an illegitimate child to my great
>   grandfather (no, I don't think this runs in the family!  B-).  There
>   is a baptism record for the child but I thought that illegitimate
>   children were not baptized by the Roman Catholic church.  Am I
>   incorrect?

Happens in the best of families. :-)

RC baptism is not rejected of a baby regardless of birth status. The main 
criteria is that such a child also have a chance at growing up in the Catholic 
faith. If a Moslem brings his kid into a RC church and says "please baptize 
him", he may have a problem, but otherwise there are no objections. My father 
was illegitimate and on his 1906 baptismal entry under father it simply says:
'unehlich' or German for illegitimate. The father was Lutheran and it may well 
have been the situation were the customs of the times dictated no marriage
rather than one among a Catholic and a Protestant.  Such silliness was common.
Fred
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From:         Kerry Casey <kac@BOM.GOV.AU>
Subject:      GEDCOM files
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As Tom Wetmore has noted, GEDCOM is a data transfer standard used to transfer
genealogy data between different computer systems and different genealogy
packages.

In answer to Stephen Holloway,  I use Family TreeMaker, Version 2.0. I bought
it because I liked the way it prints charts, and because I liked its data entry
screens and its note features.


The manual talks of an option that allows you to export data from your
Family TreeMaker database into a GEDCOM file. I think it's an extra
$US 40.


Kerry Casey

Researching CASEY BERRIMAN OLIVER WALSH
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 12:20:55 -0500
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From:         Dick Rose <am681@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>
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get GENEALOG FTPSAMP

--
Dick Rose, 4273 Grannis Rd., Fairview Park, OH 44126
Researching: ROSE / NEY / NOACK / KENYON / GREEN / THOMAS
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From: lib1p@elroy.uh.edu (Tammy Stark Blandino)
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Subject: Re: Library bashing??
Date: 28 Dec 1992 06:57 CST
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In article <1992Dec25.221302.24915@compu.com>, fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home) writes...
>cjt1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Charles Ten Brink) writes:
> 
>>I have deleted.)  I have neither the time nor the inclination to set you
>>or the other library bashers straight on some of the more bizarre ideas
>>you have about libraries, for the simple reason that I see no duty to
>>educate someone from the ground up about the varying missions of libraries,
>>the complexities of bibliographic control, and our duty to the public (which
>>you and others seem to quaintly define as "letting me have what I want
>>regardless of its potential impact on others.")
> 
..rest deleted....

You have got to be kidding.....

I certainly hope you don't consider yourself a Librarian.  Because that is the
whole duty of a librarian, to inform and educate.  Not in the same way as
a teacher, but the idea is the same.  What do you think our mission is?  Do
you think we exist just to be?  

"I see no duty to educate someone from the ground up about the varying 
missions of libraries..."

Then what the hell do you do all day...sit around and pat yourself on the
back at what a great job your doing....sheez!

Yes the public is mis-informed about many and sundry things concerning 
libraries.  And it's not limited to "common folk".  I have met PhD
candidates and PhD Professors who don't know the least little thing about
libraries.  Most Science and Engineering  and Technical types don't even
know how to write a decent citation (and then scream at us when we can't
find it for them).

But isn't the mission of the library to make information available to people?
Isn't educating someone a means of "making information available"?  If not
then why is there a "Reference and Information" Desk in any library of 
a decent size?  Surely you don't need a master's degree to point out where 
the bathrooms are or to give out the library's hours.

I really feel sorry for your patronage.

Tammy Blandino

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From: lianne@csulb.edu (Lianne Hoskins)
Subject: Delaware?!?
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 01:27:07 GMT

I have just located the marriage record of my ggg grandparents
in Delaware of all places (I looked there on a hunch, we never
knew they had lived there.)

From the Delaware Advertiser (publ. Wilmington, Delaware)

" MARRIED, on Oct. 14 1830 by the Rev. J. Kennedy, Mr. Samuel 
  Thomas, of Wilmington, to Miss Ann Stevenson, of Delaware
  County, PA."

If there's anyone out there who may have access to any records
regarding the New Castle County, Delaware and Delaware County,
Pennsylvania areas -- Please take a look for me.

Thanks!

'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
Lianne Hoskins     LAMB BRENT HOSKINS/ON SNEPP THOMAS
lianne@csulb.edu   STEVENSON NELKE WINKLER KLAUSER
                   CUTSINGER HOLDORF GROTH GRAF QUICK
'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'

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Subject:      Re: American-Canadian Genealogical Soc. Address?
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Another address gleaned from the Roots-L Vital stats file for NY:
Northern NY American -Canadian Genealogical Soc.
P.O. Box 1256
Plattsburgh, NY 12901
Dues 12.50/yr single  17.50 /family
Cheers
Bill French/"wjf@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu"
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:27:22 EST
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From:         Fred Rump from home <fr@ICDI10.COMPU.COM>
Subject:      In Defense of Libraries...
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thus spoke the keyboard of THE GAR:
>
> When Mr. Rump speaks of the "waste of human knowledge" I shudder.  It is
> these people who have PRESERVED human knowledge!  Who have made our
> hobby possible!  Librarians are often archivists rather than
> disseminators so I can see his point, but we need to tread lightly.  We
> walk on Holy Ground.

I'm not sure if librarians have anything like a creed or an oath they take,
but, if anything, it should call for the preservation AND dissemination of
knowledge.  Are those who make the rules NOT to do the latter a part of some
other occupation?  Frieda said that rules may come from above, from boards and
managers that prevent wide dissemination for their own purposes.  Are they
protecting something that belongs to them uniquely?  I doubt if ownership of
ideas should be restricted to borders by state or any other artificial walls.

My railing is against bureaucracy, that creeping failure to be logical, not
against librarians. When reasons can not be given as to why, I get upset. When
people (even librarians) blindly follow rules that make no sense I see them
failing in their work.

As an outsider to the system who has absolutely no control over what people do
in areas outside of my own community, I can do nothing but voice this
frustration in the hope that somebody may pick up on it in their area of
influence.  If we each do our part as Gary correctly suggest, things will
improve.

Otherwise I have no argument with his post. Well, except for the MR part.

Fred

PS Did I mention that the California libraries are off limits to me because I
live in this little tiny state of New Jersey where we really only have one
major public university?


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From:         Dick Rose <am681@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>
Subject:      ROGERS/BALL
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NODAK.EDU

Seeking the parents of Abigail ROGERS born ca. 1703 and married
Eleazer BALL, Sr. 23-Mar-1726-7 in Lancaster, Worcester Co.,
Mass. She died 9-Oct-1741 in Rutland, Worcester Co., Mass.

DicRose...

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Researching: ROSE / NEY / NOACK / KENYON / GREEN / THOMAS
From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Electronic Resources for European History (repost)
Date: 24 Dec 92 20:21:29 GMT
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

I picked this up on bit.listserv.pacs-l, and thought it would be of
sufficient interest to the soc.roots/ROOTS-L community to repost here:

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Subject: Electronic Resources for European History
From: Erwin Welsch <EWELSCH@macc.wisc.edu>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:44:08 CDT

Readers of PACS-L may be interested in the following guide:

The first version of a guide called "Electronic Sources for West
European History and Culture" is now available through the FTP site
ra.msstate.edu.  It has the title european.guide in the subdirectory
pub/docs/history/resources.

The guide identifies listservers and electronic newsletters or
ejournals in European history and related fields (particularly
literature), describes two history text archives, and will be updated
and expanded in future versions to include other electronic sources
and resources.

Corrections, comments, or additions to the guide are welcome.

Erwin K. Welsch
West European History Librarian
Memorial Library
University of Wisconsin-Madison
EWelsch@WISCMACC.Bitnet
EWelsch@vms.macc.wisc.edu

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