HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: basil@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Brian J. Stokes)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: RE: lyrics to 10 tiny turtles on the telephone
Date: 28 Sep 92 03:40:27 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Lyrics to 10 tiny turtles:

1 2 3 4 5 - 6 7 8 9 10
ten tiny turtles on the telephone
talkin' to the grocery men (la la la)

We would like some lettuce
would send us 10 heads please
with 10 ripe tomatoes and 10 rutebegas
with the dimples on their knees...

Gimme just 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 artichokes,
10 eggplants (over easy!)
that's one of our little old jokes (ha ha ha)
Then we'll need 10 leafy collard greens and
please make sure they're washed!
Light up our lives, and brighten our eyes with 10
banana squash.

We'll need 10 cans of black-eyed peas, they
give you good strong muscles...
10 of those tasty sprouts, the ones that they call brussels.
We'd also like 10 mangos, they're the favorite of our sister Gert,
and one last thing please do include, 10 apples for dessert...
From: basil@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Brian J. Stokes)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: RE: New Dog City cartoon series
Date: 26 Sep 92 20:19:11 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Someone asked about Dog City.  I was fortunate to attend a seminar about
Jim Henson at the NYC museum of TV and Radio.  Michael Frith talked about
this new show which airs soon on Fox.  Basically it features a muppet dog
who's an animator.  He interacts with his characters personally (
we saw featured him drawing his main character on the fly, much like in
Daffy Duck skits where the artist redraws him).  I thought it was very
creative, well-written, certainly more funny than most morning kids shows.

-- Brian Stokes

(I recommend the Henson exhibit (ends October 4th) and MT & R to anyone!)  
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From: st923584@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Aaron Greenhouse)
Subject: Re: Muppet Show
Reply-To: st923584@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:46:54 GMT

"Yoda" is on "Weird Al" Yankovics tape: "Dare to be Stupid."
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From: st890936@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: muppet insects
Reply-To: st890936@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 17:08:42 GMT

Thank you everyone for your help.  Yes, I do love the Ladybug song and WGBH 
just aired it a couple of weeks ago.  

Thanx again!


Ilene
From: norm@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael A Ferraris)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: Re: Muppet videos and memories.
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:19:55
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: Rebecca Alice Metz's message of Sun,  4 Oct 1992 23:05:57 -0400 

Yeah, I saw the Muppets at MGM!!!

I thought it was great how even in the waiting area they had those TV
screens that were showing skits that were really true to the Muppet
Show's original format.

One of the best parts of the 3-d movie was when the real bubbles
actually came out of the ceiling....you could see people all around
jumping when a real bubble popped on their face.

I just wanted to share that.

					Mike
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: Re: It Sure Is Hot (really the lyrics this time)
From: ()
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:10:09 -0600
Followup-To: alt.tv.muppets
Distribution: world

In article <1992Oct5.093231.1878@gacvx2.gac.edu>, rostrom@perdita.gac.edu
(Rebecca M Ostrom) wrote:
(last refrain) 
> Hace calor, si si senor
> Could fry an egg on the cement,
> It's so caliente
> Hace calor, si si senor
> Could fry an egg on the cement,
> It's so caliente

whoops, sorry 'bout that.  Last refrain goes:

Hace calor, si si senor
Could fry an egg on the cement
It's so caliente
Hace calor, hace calor
How 'bout this weather,
It sure is hot!

And that should be right, so far as I know.

	               --Becca
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From: gjgatto@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Gregory Joseph Gatto)
Subject: Sesame Street skit
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:37:52 GMT

Question for all you Sesame Street buffs.  My memory is not that keen,
but this has been bugging me for a long time now.  There is a skit
that was once on Sesame Street.  Actually, it was more like a song
with a lot of various pictures.  The song was by Leroy Anderson, and
it is called "Song of the Bells". (or something like that)  The only
line I can remember, and I know this sounds odd, is "Don't look now
your hair is blue."   

Does anyone know what I am talking about?  Or have I lost my marbles?
If someone does remember it, could they please send me the words.
(It would be best to email me your responses.)

Many thanks.

Greg Gatto (gjgatto@phoenix.princeton.edu)
.


-- 
Greg Gatto (gjgatto@phoenix.princeton.edu)
Princeton University (Class of '94 - Go Tigers!)

"Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter" - Yoda
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
From: st923584@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Aaron Greenhouse)
Subject: Re: Muppet trek?
Reply-To: st923584@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 17:32:19 GMT

I read a Muppet/Star Trek story over a year ago, but I don't know where to get it


Aaron Greenhouse st923584@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
From: gschlesi@scott.skidmore.edu (gabriel schlesinger)
Subject: Re: Muppet Movie Sndtrk.
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:39:31 GMT

In response to who sings on the Muppet Movie soundtrack it is all
Muppets with the exception of the instumentals which naturally have
nobody singing.  If you do find this on C.D. please send me info on
where etc.  (my record has had some wear over the years and I'd love
to be able to skip over the Miss Piggy song without getting up).

-gabe 
"(no quote, silence says more than  words)"
Xref: sparky alt.tv.prisoner:1487 alt.tv.twin-peaks:3167
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Subject: Re: The Prisoner & Twin Peaks
From: mnor1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Mark Hiro           Norman         )
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:29:47 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

I know you said to email, but sorry I can't right now...

I am an avid watcher of both Twin Peaks and The Prisoner.
I suspect that they both appeal in some common way to people;
perhaps in their strangeness.


-- 
Mark Norman           | My university doesn't let me send email.
mnor1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz | "We Hate It When Our Friends Become Successful..."
From: rickh@ems.cdc.com (Richard Herwig)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: The End
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:44:11 GMT
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

I hate to do this but I just found this newsgroup and I have to 
know.  What happened in the end?  I've never seen the last show
'cause everytime it's been on I either out of town or something.
(Obviously I didn't have a VCR either).

Plz email me and flame on if you have to!

Rick
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From: patl@golem.mit.edu (Patrick J. LoPresti)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: common names (was: Questions, questions...)
Date: 2 Oct 92 02:12:30 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology

In article <MelXeUq00WBN84GX9x@andrew.cmu.edu> mk52+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew A  
Kagle) writes:
> I disagree.  I believe that the Prisoner doesn't give his name because
> he represents all of us (at least all of us with internal conflicts). 

And all of us who are being stripped of our freedom in the name of the "common  
good".

I agree with your main point; the Prisoner represents us all.  Read the  
credits:  "Everyman Productions, Inc".  McGoohan didn't choose his company's  
name at random.

To think otherwise is to miss the most important allegory of the series: "The  
Village" represents the world.  Our world, that is.

You are number 6,
Pat
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From: friesen@stein.u.washington.edu (Craig Friesen)
Subject: Re: Avengers In-Joke?
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 07:10:39 GMT

musjjh@lure.latrobe.edu.au writes:

>Last night I was watching an episode of The Avengers, Iv'e forgotten the title
>but it was a Dianna Rigg episode in colour and dealt with homing pigeons
>being used to secretly make ariel photos of missle bases. 
It's called "The Bird Who Knew Too Much" or very close to that. 

>Does anyone know when this episode was filmed?
I looked it up.  My book didn't know when it was filmed, but it first aired
in England February of 1967.  (5th season, 3rd episode)

Don't know how any of the prisoner stuff fits in...I haven't seen the episode.
cu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
From: mfrazer@scott.skidmore.edu (matthew frazer)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner,alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: The Prisoner & Twin Peaks
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:23:24 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

So....
	How many of you watched both The Prisoner And Twin Peaks
E-mail me if you watched one, or both or neither or whatever.

I'm just curious and I'll post the results.

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    evil BOB and the worst thing he can do is squeeze a tube of toothpaste
                            out from the middle."
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From: chrisc@kether.webo.dg.com (Chris Campbell)
Subject: Re: Voiceovers, was Re: Prisoner on Sci-Fi Channel
Date: 25 Sep 92 17:07:50
	<19gl3mINNic2@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <19pedjINN2q8@ascella.usc.edu>
	<1992Sep23.115749.26057@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>
Organization: NSDD, Data General Corp.

>>>>> On 23 Sep 92 11:57:49 GMT, bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church) said:

|> You know, I find A&Es voice overs the most annoying. On the one hand they're
|> handled better than most stations. They're not quite so blaring or obnoxious.
|> The problem though, is that the A&E shows are much more likely to have trailing
|> music that I want to hear.

As if the voice-overs aren't bad enough, they have to add their
little "chime" at the beginning, which is usually totally
discordant with the theme music.  Ugh!
-----
Chris
From: lenore@theory.lcs.mit.edu (Lenore J. Cowen)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: common names (was: Questions, questions...)
Date: 26 Sep 92 22:03:49 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: MIT Lab for Computer Science



>In article <19c20jINNt5o@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac
>Truder) wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> > ...but with the very notion of No. 6.  The question to be asked is
>> > not Who Is Number One, but Who Is Number 6?  His reply: "I am not a
>> > number, I am a Free Man!"  If one thinks about it, this is a very
>> > strange defense to make if someone is attempting to strip you of your
>> > individuality. The common (proper? sane?)  response would be "I am
>> > not a number, I am John Drake", or Mark E. Smith, or Jack Kemp or
>> > whatever your name happened to be.  Not once, as I can remember, does
>> > Six defend his individuality by afirming it as it is usually done
>> > every day in Western Culture, by name.  One must admit that this is a
>> > very strange discrepency, which really cannot be explained by the
>> > creators of the show not getting the rights to use the name "John
>> > Drake".  Any name could have done.  The point is, that Six never
>> > gives himself a name.
>> > 

Then myempire@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Matt J. Martin) wrote: 

    It's no accident that No. 6 never gives himself a name.  It can only be 
a deliberate decision on the part of PM.  No. six represents the common human
being, and to make him represent a specific person would only detract from the
meaning of the entire series.

My answer: 

First, No. 6 doesn't represent the "common" man. Every number 2 that
comes along knows that he's not "ordinary". He's an uncommon man,
according to the series. Many number two's say "he's no ordinary man,"
or "This one will have to be handled very differently". Nadia says,
"you were right about this one" in The Chimes of Big Ben. The doctor
in checkmate says "sometimes I think he's not even human," He's an
"old boy" and he's a top agent. The Village can make the "common" man
talk-- the normal techniques do not seem to work on No. 6.

Rather, I think No 6. does not choose a name, because it would be too
revealing an action to his captors. If they do not know his "true"
name and he gives it, surely he has given them information.  If he
picks a particular alias, then that very choice can reveal what is of
value to him. The Village's attack on No. 6 is two-fold: they want to
know why he resigned but they also want him to "fit in" to their
society, a hierarchy of numbers. No. 6 rejects Village society.  It is
not just that they are wrong about who he is, what "number" he is,
but he also rejects their whole numbering system. 

--Lenore

"But if you haven't got a price, you must have a reason," "A"
"That's almost the same thing.." No. 6

--from the "A" segment in A B or C

 
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From: ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair)
Subject: Re: Avengers In-Joke?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:25:56 GMT

   Another possible Prisoner tie-in: ``The house that Jack built'' (one
of my favorite Avengers episodes) has Ms Peel trapped in a house which
has a central room that looks a lot like the one in which #6 confronted
the various #2's.
From: ajr@csthor.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Ade Rixon)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: The Prisoner Returns!
Keywords: tv prisoner
Date: 27 Sep 92 15:44:00 GMT
Reply-To: ajr@aber.ac.uk
Organization: University Of Wales, Aberystwyth - Party town!

In article <1992Sep24.153959.21101@impmh.uucp>, dsg@impmh.uucp (Dave Gordon) writes:
> Channel 4 are showing the whole series (17 episodes)
> each Wednesday at 23:20, starting on 23-9-92.
> 
> Don't miss it!
> 
> BCNU
> -- 
> 
> Dave (aka No. 23)

And for people in Wales who get S4C, The Prisoner is being shown on Sunday
nights at 11:15pm, starting tonight. (NB. Expect them to mess about with
the time.)

Ade_
   /
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| JANET: ajr@uk.ac.aber     /  know too much. I know too much about	|
| CS Dept, UW Aberystwyth,  /  *you*."		- The Prisoner		|
| Dyfed, Wales.             / <-- PLEASE NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS!!!	|
From: kipilman@cats.ucsc.edu (Lou Kipilman)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: The "alternate" version of Chimes of Big Ben...
Date: 2 Oct 1992 22:52:39 GMT
Organization: Team Slack
Distribution: alt
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


In article <MJS.92Sep30161207@wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu> mjs@wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu (The Lord of the Damned) writes:
>
>i have just recently purchased the "alternate" version of _The Chimes of
>Big Ben_ (the version that was used as a press release before the show was
>initially aired) and have noticed that the sounds is really abomidable in
>places... This is the MCI (??? i think that is the company name that sells
>prisoner tapes) tape... 
>
>i was simply wondering if anyone else has this tape and if it _is_ really
>bad quality or if it was just my tape...
>

I've seen the same episode (available through MPI Home Video). The liner notes
explained that Six of One (the Prisoner appreciation society) found this
original version in Canada, in 16mm film format. The effects of age, wear and
tear are very evident; it's not videotape quality.
-- 
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| kipilman@cats.ucsc.edu  or  babalou@ucscb.ucsc.edu                      |
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From: rubio@HAN.Paramax.COM (Stuart Rubio)
Subject: Re: The End
Originator: rubio@hpwisf1.han.paramax.com
Organization: ^
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:32:01 GMT

In article <28048@nntp_server.ems.cdc.com> rickh@ems.cdc.com (Richard Herwig) writes:
>I hate to do this but I just found this newsgroup and I have to 
>know.  What happened in the end?  I've never seen the last show
>'cause everytime it's been on I either out of town or something.
>(Obviously I didn't have a VCR either).
>
>Rick

Well, you did not miss a thing. The end went off a little further 
into never-never-land. The recalled No. 2 locked himself into a
disastrous game of break the mind and lost, or nearly so. Locked
in a sealed environment, he and the Prisoner engage in some deep
regression games intended to force the Prisoner to trust No. 2.
Instead, he comes to reject the Village ideals, and causing an
illogical fragmentation and disintegration of the physical Village.

Peace and long life,

Stuart


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Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 18:50:08 -0400 
From: Matthew A Kagle <mk52+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: common names (was: Questions, questions...)
Distribution: alt

I disagree.  I believe that the Prisoner doesn't give his name because
he represents all of us (at least all of us with internal conflicts). 
He seems to be a single individual resisting the whims of society (The
Village) but it turns out that he is also No. 1.  In other words, he is
also trying to make himself conform to society even while he is
resisting.  This makes him everyone who resists society yet, at the same
time, feels an internal pull to conform.  The only thing that makes him
special is the fact that he defeats his own No. 1 and frees himself. 
However, if you notice at the end of the movie the short butler walks
into a house and the door opens automatically, society still exists even
though one person can escape from it.


         Respectfully Yours,

        -- Matt2

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From: ccu.UManitoba.CA (Wayne Billing)
Subject: Re: Questions, questions...
Followup-To: alt.tv.prisoner
Organization: U. of Manitoba
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:32:17 GMT

In article <1a0ds0INNm9v@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac
Truder) wrote:
> 
> 
> >     The common folk of our society convince themselves that they are
> > individuals with free will and the right to choose their own
> > destinies.  But they're only fooling themselves.  They are all
> > numbers.  There are no free men.
> 
> Oh?  A very pessimistic viewpoint.
> 
> But then again -- No. 6 chose never to wear his number... and yet he was
> still a prisoner.  
> 
> But are we truly so ruled by others' impressions of us?  On the newsgroups,
> we are each identified by a machine-name, often a little alphanumeric code.
> And yet, does not every opinion we express knock another hole in the wall
> that keeps out our individuality?  We are all free men, within ourselves,
> if we let ourselves be.

Or to put it another way, if I follow you...

I am a free man. In my freedom, I could choose to be called by a number if
I so desired but I will not let anyone impose a number upon me.

There are times in TP when the FreeMan chooses to be known by number (when
he seeks to be elected #6, for example) but these seem to be voluntary
choices. Other incidents seem to indicate the FreeMan is very aware that
the village is trying to get him to think of himself as a number and he
will not allow it(for example, when he answers the phone and is told 'Call
for #6. Are you #6' he will reply something like 'That is the number of
this place.')
From: bb099@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Adam Trent Phillips)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: Looking for FAQ
Date: 6 Oct 1992 18:55:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


	Thanks, I just got FAQed :-)



-- 
"Speak to me in many voices, make them all sound like one.
 Let me see your sacred mysteries. Reveal to me the unknown tounge."--B.O.C.
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From: dsg@impmh.uucp (Dave Gordon)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: The Prisoner Returns!
Summary: Channel 4 rerun of The Prisoner starts *NOW*
Keywords: tv prisoner
Date: 24 Sep 92 15:39:59 GMT
Organization: Integrated Micro Products Ltd

Channel 4 are showing the whole series (17 episodes)
each Wednesday at 23:20, starting on 23-9-92.

Don't miss it!

BCNU
-- 

Dave (aka No. 23)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: Questions, questions...
From: system@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 14:52:50 NZDST
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10-155, Auckland, New Zealand

myempire@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Matt J. Martin) writes:

> >In article <19c20jINNt5o@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac
> >Truder) wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > ...but with the very notion of No. 6.  The question to be asked is
> >> > not Who Is Number One, but Who Is Number 6?  His reply: "I am not a
> >> > number, I am a Free Man!"  If one thinks about it, this is a very
> >> > strange defense to make if someone is attempting to strip you of your
> >> > individuality. The common (proper? sane?)  response would be "I am
> >> > not a number, I am John Drake", or Mark E. Smith, or Jack Kemp or
> >> > whatever your name happened to be.  Not once, as I can remember, does
> >> > Six defend his individuality by afirming it as it is usually done
> >> > every day in Western Culture, by name.  One must admit that this is a
> >> > very strange discrepency, which really cannot be explained by the
> >> > creators of the show not getting the rights to use the name "John
> >> > Drake".  Any name could have done.  The point is, that Six never
> >> > gives himself a name.
> >> > 
> 
Hmmm, but those in the "business", spying, whatever, would often change 
and assume identities. If you had spent long enough in such an 
organisation surely your ties to a "name" as a source of identity would 
be very loose. Instead you would graps on to principles (freedom, 
equality, fraternity, maternity...).
And there are MANY cultures where you never reveal your name (certainly 
not your true name), because doing so will give others POWER over you.

Cheers,

Wayne McDougall
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