From: makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,soc.misc,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.misc,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Want facts?  "WHO RUNS THE MEDIA?  The Alarming Facts"
Date: 17 Apr 92 06:03:22 GMT
Reply-To: makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ

In article <JIME.92Apr16132416@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> jime@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:

# In article <1992Apr16.021518.14077@ennews.eas.asu.edu> makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:

# >   In article <JIME.92Apr15125928@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu> jime@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:

# >   # In article <1992Apr15.145219.18739@ennews.eas.asu.edu> makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:

# >   # >   In article <JIME.92Apr14230116@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu> jime@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:

# >   # >   # The way the occupation is being run (deportation of elements of the
# >   # >   # local populace, construction of permanent settlements, ...) also goes
# >   # >   # against the Geneva Convention.

# >   # >	   No they do not.

# >   # Please explain.  A simple denial doesn't hold much weight.

# >	   The Geneva conventions do not prohibit deportations of individuals
# >   for security reasons.  They prohibit deportations of mass groups of
# >   people.  While the wording may seem to ban deportations of
# >   individuals, the subsequent official interpretaions and documents
# >   state otherwise.  William Safire had an article on this a while ago.
 
# If you will give me a more precise reference, I will read this article.
 
	I will not only try to get a more precise reference for Safire's
article, I will try to get one for the primary source (off the top of
my head I think it is called "The official interpretations of the
Geneva Conventions) if I have time.

# In any case, you addressed only the deportation orders, not the
# settlement construction policy.

	While I am not as sure about this as I am about the deportations,
I seem to remember reading somewhere that only government action in
building settlements and forcing populations into them is prohibited.
Based on what I read, having Israelis voluntarily move in is all right
(I will try to dig up a reference on this also if I have time).

# >	   Now I admit that "my" transfer idea would violate they Geneva
# >   conventions, but there is ample precedent this century that allows
# >   such violations if they save lives.  By allow I mean that the world
# >   community accepted them, not that there was an international court
# >   ruling (although there may have been, I am just not aware of any).

# So essentially your point is one of blackmail.  Either the world will
# approve the mass deportation of Palestinians, or the Israelis will
# kill them all.

	Frankly, I could care less what the world thinks.  The world does
not have a good record as far as my heritage is concerned (which leads
me to doubt whether they would accept it anyways if it benefits
Jews). As it is you are being dishonest.  It is not just that the
"Israelis will kill them all", but rather that both sides will kill
all of each other.
--

David Makowsky
makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu
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