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From: ostertag@cs.umd.edu (Eduardo Ostertag)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Lots of NFS I/O halts my NeXT. Please help!!
Date: 27 Dec 92 03:54:34 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Maryland at College Park

I have a NeXTstation (non-Turbo) with NeXTSTEP 3.0, 20MB RAM,  400MB  disk.
The  NeXT is our File Server and is exporting its entire disk. This disk is
being NFS mounted from a bunch of client UNIX machines in our LAN (none  of
them  is  a  NeXT).  THE  PROBLEM:  each time I execute a shell script in a
client machine to create a big archive file (ar) in the exported  disk,  my
NeXT  either  freezes  or  enters  panic  mode.  In this last case, I get a
message in "/usr/adm/messages" that says "unexpected page fault".

Details:

The NeXT's exported disk is  being  mounted  as  "/server"  in  all  client
machines. I login to one of client machines and do the following:

	bash$ cd /server
	bash$ sh -x script

were "script" contains around 150 lines that look as follows:

	ar alv archive.a file.o

I know this could be done using one "ar"  command,  but  this  is  not  the
point.  Also,  the "l" options makes "ar" create its temporary files in the
current directory, in other words the NeXT NFS mounted disk "/server".  The
resulting  archive  file  is  close  to  2MB in size. THE RESULT: somewhere
around the middle of the script my NeXT freezes or enters panic mode.

I would appreciate any help in this matter,

-Eduardo Ostertag (ostertag@drinkme.cs.umd.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: lm011@aix370.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (Alexander Tuchacek)
Subject: VRship Hamburg: Call for sounds 
Reply-To: lm011@aix370.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (Alexander Tuchacek)
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne, F. R. Germany
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 17:06:05 GMT



Call for international participation in new art/science project.
KNOWBOTIC RESEARCH
Simulation Room -Mosaic of Mobile Sound Data
We are a group of artists and scientists at the Academy of Media
Arts Cologne,  and will be showing a VR installation in February at
the MEDIALE93 - Festival for Media Arts and Media Future - in
Hamburg, Germany. The installation, housed in the freight ship Cap
San Diego in Hamburg - harbour, has three main areas.
Section one is a sophisticated, walk - in data - base  utilising a
collection of sound samples from around the world, which will be
used to produce a virtual 'sound room'.  The sound data will
correspond to the second section,  a physical room, where visitors
will be able to navigate through the space with the aid of a mobile
ultrasonic sensor and an artificial eye display and activate the data 
to a realtime-concert.
The action of the visitors, within  this 'virtual organism,' will be
displayedon a video screen shown in a control room area (the third
area).
We welcome your participation for the international sound - data -
base: To participate in this international project we need from you a
6 second long sound sample, a cultural statement, reflecting
your personal attitude towards the "world". Please send this via
email or ftp. (aiff, wave, next formats)
All participants and institutions will be credited in a publicly
displayed database during the exhibition.
For more information by email from: kr+cf@khm.uni-koeln.de
Thank you for your support - KNOWBOTIC RESEARCH

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Printing tex.dvi file in PS wrapper
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:09:36 GMT

I am trying to print a Postscript 2.0 file created by dvips that is part of
the documentation for a program. The file displays in Preview, but
given the nature of the TeX fonts, it's a bit hard to read on the screen,
so I'd like to get hard copy.

Sending the file to print from within Preview results in zippo at the
printer. Watching the Printmanager queue shows a 94K file queued and sent
to the printer with no output. Below is the header from the file:

%!PS-Adobe-2.0
%%Creator: dvips by Radical Eye Software
%%Title: paper.dvi
%%Pages: 28 1
%%BoundingBox: 0 0 612 792
%%EndComments
%%BeginDocument: tex.pro
/TeXDict........................

The bulk of the file looks quite binary to me, though most of it is text
with some hi-res images scattered about.

If this is useful information, the file is from a SUN OS environment.

Thanks
-- 

Mark T. Dornfeld                              Voice: (416) 234-9048
CYANTIC Systems                               Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103                Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch)
Subject: Re: Get one more free dock entry under 3.0
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:17:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.160202.6283@almserv.uucp> bnixon@fnma.com (Bill  
Nixon) writes:
> Ever need just one more free entry on your NeXTSTEP dock.
> Well, here's one way to do it.  I have only done this under
> 3.0, so I am not sure if it will work on older versions.
> 
> The trick is to move the Recycler icon off the dock.  Here's
> how:
> 

Or:
1. Or command-drag the recycler off the dock.
2. Place whatever app icon you which (if any) in its place...

Thanks to Dick Silbar for showing me this...

peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: DOS disks vs. NeXT disks
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 03:55:20 GMT

As has been pointed out to me gently by a few people, disk duplication
involves a byte-by-byte copy of a disk, and works the same whether it's
a DOS, NeXT, MAC, or whatever filesystem.  Therefore it was probably the
very reason M Carling suggested which had TELOS put a DOS disk with 
Simson & Mike's book, and not anything to do with DOS disk duplication
being any easier or cheaper than NeXT disk duplication.

Sorry for any confusion my holiday addled comment might have caused.

Sigh.  Back to thesis hacking...


-- 

-->  Michael B. Johnson
-->  MIT Media Lab      --  Computer Graphics & Animation Group
-->  (617) 253-0663     --  wave@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: lmccullo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch)
Subject: Re: RS/6000 and NeXT Machines
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 05:27:41 GMT

henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu (Charles Henrich) writes:
>
>duca@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (Karen Duca, a.k.a. Rocky) writes:
>
>>My group is considering getting a NeXT as a client machine for an RS/6000.
>>Seeing as the RS has been such a "delight" to use since we got it several
>>months ago, I want to make sure that this mating is compatible before we
>>go ahead.  Any suggestions from people who are working with these two
>>machines now?  What software is the best for running X-Windows on the NeXT?
>
>
>The next is the *worse* machine in the world to do Xwindows on.  (IMHO).
>Your better off going with something like the Sun ELC, or Sun Classic.  The    
>reasons for NeXT doing a bad job are fairly straightforward, first of all 
>the mouse is only two buttons, secondly the resolution of a NeXT is much 
>less than a Sun doing X.
>
>My experiences are with the PD X implementation and Co-Xist
>

I strongly disagree with the answer given by Charles above. IMHO this info
is outdated. Anyway, the real information requested regards the _performance_
and _compatibility_ of X on a NeXT.

I recently took advantage of the demo offering for Cub'X Windows on the NeXT,
and was pleasanlty surprised at both the speed of display and interoperation
with other X machines (we use SGIs as our main servers). Cub'X is plently fast
(comparable with our 486s with ISA accelerators) and has had no problem with
8-bit pseudo colormaps with our main application (Patran). As far as the third
mouse button, Cub'X allows the use of the ALT key as a modifier to get the
third mouse button -- which I think works fine. I use a 25 MHz Colorstation
with 32 MB of RAM. I don't understand the above comment on resolution --
unless 1280x1024 is what Charles is used to. I really think the days of
unacceptable, even pathetic, X performance on the NeXT are over.

Check out Cub'X and/or the new, speedier Co-Xist 3.0. If you like the NeXT
for things other than just X, then I think the NeXT will work fine for most
things. CPU performance aside (that's a rather important aside I admit) the
NeXT works very acceptably as an X-terminal, IMHO. Of course, if you desire
to customize your X environment, be prepared to delve deeply into several
X configurations files as usual...

Michael McCulloch
Huntsville, AL
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From: fletcher@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Mail behavior--a command line question
Keywords: mail, popper
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:23:49 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland University College

The following concerns the behavior of mail on the NeXT when reading 
mail through the Terminal application or, in particular, from a remote 
terminal. Thus this is not about NeXTmail (the App). We have noticed 
two types of behavior:

1) When you login and type "mail" at the prompt, you see your mail which 
is read from the file /usr/spool/mail/username. You read your mail and 
quit (q). Your mail (read and unread) is stored in /usr/spool/mail/username 
(unless you *explicitly* save it.)

2) Again you login and type "mail" at the prompt. Your mail is read in 
from the file /usr/spool/mail/username and you read your mail. This time 
when you quit (q), all mail that is read is moved to ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox
/mbox (or ~/mbox or another designated folder) and the unread mail is 
retained in /usr/spool/mail/username.

According to the man page for mail, (2) is the expected behavior. However, 
(1) is the behavior we are now seeing. One user claims it used to work like 
(2), but that recently (also about the time I installed popper on the NeXT) 
that it changed to (1). I checked three other (non-NeXT) Unix machines 
and two behaved like (1) and one like (2) [hmmmm..sorry about that.] 
So my questions are:

a) What is the proper behavior and/or what parameters need to be set 
to get it one way or the other?

b) Does popper have anything to do with this behavior?

 Thanks in advance,

Charlie



-- 
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	charlie@technosci.com	|	otherwise hobnob with my    
				|	brother wizards.
From: henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu (Charles Henrich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: RS/6000 and NeXT Machines
Date: 3 Jan 93 18:18:31 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: crh.cl.msu.edu

duca@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (Karen Duca, a.k.a. Rocky) writes:

>My group is considering getting a NeXT as a client machine for an RS/6000.
>Seeing as the RS has been such a "delight" to use since we got it several
>months ago, I want to make sure that this mating is compatible before we
>go ahead.  Any suggestions from people who are working with these two
>machines now?  What software is the best for running X-Windows on the NeXT?

The next is the *worse* machine in the world to do Xwindows on.  (IMHO).  Your
better off going with something like the Sun ELC, or Sun Classic.  The reasons
for NeXT doing a bad job are fairly straightforward, first of all the mouse is
only two buttons, secondly the resolution of a NeXT is much less than a Sun
doing X.

My experiences are with the PD X implementation and Co-Xist

-Crh
--


    Charles Henrich     Michigan State University     henrich@crs.cl.msu.edu
From: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: CDRom drives/3.0 from NeXT
Date: 23 Dec 92 15:21:20 GMT
Reply-To: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In comp.sys.next.misc, dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes:
>    Since no one has complained about it on the Net I feel as though I
>    missed something... were people expecting to have to buy the cabling
>    necessary to get the CD-Rom drive working as a separate item?

NeXT doesn't bundle it because the type of cable you need depends on whether
you alredy have a SCSI device.  Many people do, so to add the CD-ROM, you
need a SCSI-1 to SCSI-1 cable (and no extra terminator).  If the CD-ROM is
your first SCSI device, then you need the special SCSI-2 to SCSI-1 cable
and a terminator.  These cables are too expensive to include them and
expect the user to just eat the cost if they didn't need it.

I'm sure your not the only one that didn't know this.  But most (if not
all) of the NeXT liturature says something like (needs SCSI cable) when
it talks about the CD-ROM, and when I called NeXT to get the part
number of the 3.0 upgrade package, the person made a point of telling
me that I also needed to order the cable.

BTW, I have my 3.0 disk, and my SCSI cable, but still no CD-ROM drive.  I
too was told it would ship last week.

Curt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart)
Subject: Re: CDRom drives/3.0 from NeXT
Organization: Is the act or process of organizing or of being organized.
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 16:00:40 GMT

In article <28935@oasys.dt.navy.mil> curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch) writes:

>NeXT doesn't bundle it because the type of cable you need depends on whether
>you alredy have a SCSI device.  Many people do, so to add the CD-ROM, you
>need a SCSI-1 to SCSI-1 cable (and no extra terminator).  If the CD-ROM is
>your first SCSI device, then you need the special SCSI-2 to SCSI-1 cable
>and a terminator.  These cables are too expensive to include them and
>expect the user to just eat the cost if they didn't need 

If the CD Rom is your ONLY external SCSI device AND you have an 68040 NeXT
then you DO NOT need the terminator.



-- 
Manuel Alberto Ricart
alberto@parsec.mixcom.com <NeXTMail Welcome>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: uc512052@mizzou1.missouri.edu (David K. Drum)
Subject: Re: Loginwindow tiffs
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 06:08:46 GMT
X-Posted-From: mizzou1.missouri.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Dec23.033251.9950@macc.wisc.edu>
anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
 
>In article <17691@umd5.umd.edu> matthews@oberon.umd.edu
>(Mike Matthews) writes:
>
>>While we're on the subject of loginwindow tiffs, anyone
>>know how to get alpha into those puppies?
>
>>I know how to do it in Icon, and I know the image had
>>alpha, but it doesn't look like it makes a difference.
>
>Yer right, no alpha.  Don't know why that is.  Sure is a big
>pain in the butt, though.
 
And another thing about alpha (other than the fact that it doesn't
work): How come some programs interpret alpha (when there is no alpha)
as black, and sometimes as white?  Icon, bless its heart ;-), does it
both ways in different sections of the program!  Ugh.
 
Regards,
 
David K. Drum
(#1 Disk Pig at Mizzou for the entire Fall Semester '92)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
Subject: NeXT in Wall Street Journal
Reply-To: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:52:35 GMT

There's mention of NeXT on Intel in today's WSJ (12/21/92 - A4) in the  
"New World Order" article on the front page.

Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: greg@donald.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: "keepers" from 2.x?
Reply-To: greg@pomona.claremont.edu
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:16:41 GMT

Okay, now that I have figured out why my DSP isn't working (my thanks to
the many who provided the answer), I'm going to finish the upgrade to 3.0.
However, I seem to recall that there are some things in 2.x that are not
in 3.0.  Some of the sound and music stuff, I think.  Does anyone have a
list of which files I should save from my 2.x system?  Could you please
e-mail it to me?  Thanks in advance...

--
Greg Orman                                         greg@pomona.claremont.edu
Systems Manager                          NeXTmail: greg@donald.claremont.edu
Seaver Academic Computing Services
Pomona College                                Standard disclaimer-type stuff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Old old Cube needs an upgrade...
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 21:50:39 GMT

In article <tlm.725823623@scl1.al.iastate.edu>
tlm@iastate.edu (Tom Marchioro) writes:

>Based on his posting history Nathan is indeed a nice guy,
>perhaps he just needed a big (48 point) RTF ;-) ?

Well, with Nathan, RTF means Ready To Fight. :-)

-- 
[Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin]
[Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson]
[Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888]
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: billb@nasty (Bill Burcham)
Subject: Re: Software lock-in, NeXT get a life!
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 15:44:17 GMT

In article <1htagpINN4c1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ak520@cleveland.Freenet.Edu  
(Lucas Wagner) writes:
<munch>
> >  OH, YES, I KNOW ABOUT RTF. ON THE NEXT RTF MEANS NEXT_RTF :(
<munch>
Actually on the Microsoft RTF means Microsoft RTF.  NeXT supports the RTF  
standard as given in Microsoft's RTF specification.  Microsloth does not  
follow said standard.  Just FYI |:^>
--
+--------------------------------+----------------------------------+
|          Bill Burcham          | "Make no small plans; they have  |
| First National Bank of Chicago | no magic to stir men's souls"    |
|    billb@fnbc.com  (NeXTmail)  |      Daniel J. Burnham           |
+--------------------------------+----------------------------------+
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: tcsh: man shows exit (1)
Date: 22 Dec 92 03:35:51 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <1992Dec21.080559.8119@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org> jr@sade.ka.sub.org (Jochen Richter) writes:
> in my configuration of tcsh typing man always shows exit (1) at the end.
> Can this be avoided.

try
  unset printexitvalue
check if it is set in your .tcshrc if that is the problem (it may not be)
the latest tcsh is available at sonata.cc.purdue.edu in the submissions directory
its version 6.03
-- 
---------------------------------------------------
Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu   NeXT mail accepted
From: toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl (Toon Moene)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: CDRom drives/3.0 from NeXT
Date: 23 Dec 92 21:01:49 GMT
Organization: Moene Computational Physics, Amsterdam, The Netherlands

In article <dillon.0t3u@overload.Berkeley.CA.US>  
dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes:
> 
>     I kinda expected when I bought this package deal from NeXT that they
>     would ship everything necessary to get the thing up and running, but
>     when my CD-Rom finally arrived I found that it did not contain a 
>     SCSI cable or terminator!  Now I have to wait another few days to 
>     get the proper cable.

Depends on what you call 'NeXT': I've the May, 6th letter from my NeXT  
reseller in front of me, and it quite clearly indicates that I need a SCSI  
cable to use the CD-ROM (and they name the price). They don't talk about  
the terminator - but then, they never billed me for that one either. I  
could quote here, but you would probably have difficulty following the  
Dutch :-)

--
Toon Moene (toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl)
Kantershof 269, 1104 GN  Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Tel.: + 31 20 6982029; Fax: + 31 20 6003411
No Disclaimers; a NeXT at home protects against this occupational hazard.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon)
Subject: Re: Is the wait over? Upcoming NeXT CD-ROM drive
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:09:34 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.180218.971@pages.com> kevin@pages.com (Kevin Sven Berg)  
writes:
> > 	For those of you like me waiting for the 3.0 CD-ROM bundle for  
> > almost 4 months, are you getting your NeXT CD-ROM drive now? Will NeXT  
> > start shipping them in quantity tomorrow Dec-14th???
> > 
> 
> One data point: yes I received mine 12/16/92.
> 
> Kevin Sven Berg               /    /    /    /  P /  a /  g /  e /  s
>

    I got the word yesterday ( 12/21/92 ) that my local reseller has rec-
    eived my CD-ROM/3.0 bundle.  I placed my order on July 14th ( 7/14/92 ).
    So what is that... 5 MONTHS of waiting.
        	        	       	       	       	       	       	       

                                                               - Max

  | William R. Herndon               \ The MITRE Corporation, Dept. G023 |
  | EMail: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org  \    Secure Information Technology |
  | NeXTMail: bill@mephisto.gotham.com \                ( 703 ) 883-6393 |
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  |         "The world bores you when you're cool."   - Calvin           |
From: fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: fantasy style login image
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:46:18 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <1992Dec21.113550.3620@fokus.gmd.de> mph@percival.fokus.gmd.de  
(Michael Hoeft) writes:
> Yet another login image....
> 
> For those who like fantasy images I have downloaded a fantasy style NeXT  
> login image to sonata.cc.purdue.edu (128.210.15.30). It's placed in
> /pub/next/submissions and the filename is fantasy.login.tiff.Z (570 kB).
> 
> It's a compressed 24 bit tiff, it's also nice on 12 bit displays, but I  
> don't like it on 2 bit displays.
> 

Remind me how to replace the system login image with new ones. (NS 3.0)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: cameron@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Cameron Smith)
Subject: Can't get unsit-15.shar to compile under 2.1 on '030
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 10:39:32 GMT

I'm trying to compile a program called "unsit" under NeXTStep 2.1
on an '030 cube.  This is a program that allows you to un-stuff
Macintosh StuffIt archives (from StuffIt version 1.5.1 and before)
under UNIX.  I have a NeXT binary that was compiled long long
ago (under NS1.0!) that still works, but the source was lost
in a disk crash.  I grabbed what I *think* is the same source
code ("unsit-15.shar") from the net (an "archie" search turned
up several dozen sites that had the same file, and nothing
newer, so I think this is the current version, even though
it's dated nearly 3 years ago now).  I tried to re-compile it
but the resulting executable reports checksum errors on StuffIt
archives that I *know* to be valid -- archives that the old
binary un-stuffs without problems.  Have I run afoul of some arcane
bug in the compiler or a library?  This program has been in circulation
for years now; I can't believe that I'm the first person to try to
use it on a NeXT.

I would be deeply grateful if someone who has had experience with
this program (successful or otherwise) would get in touch with me.
I'd appreciate email -- the volume of traffic in these groups is
huge -- but I'll also try to monitor the groups for a few days.

If someone wants source or executables or a sample archive that
illustrates the problem, let me know; I'll be happy to send them.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.
--Cameron Smith
  cameron@symcom.math.uiuc.edu
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