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From: luneauf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Luneau Francois)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.windows.ms,bnr.text.frame
Subject: Re: FrameMaker for Windows crashes with ATI hi-res.
Date: 6 Oct 92 05:38:52 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <1992Sep21.174727.4477@bmers145.bnr.ca> masika@bnr.ca writes:
>I have just installed Windows 3.1 and FrameMaker on my PC, and have trouble
>with Frame crashing when I use the 1024x768 resolution.  All of a sudden,
>it won't refresh the screen properly; then, doing anything window-related like
>resizing produces the following error message:
>
>"Maker caused a General Protection Fault in
> module WIN3-64B.DRV at 0004:16F3"
>
>and then FrameMaker aborts.
>
>(sounds like the driver may be at fault)
>
>If I try restarting Frame, I get the message:
>
>"STOP.  A UAE occurred the last time you ran FrameMaker. Exit Windows
B
>        and restart before running FrameMaker."
>
>I have...
>486DX-33 machine with 8M ram, and an ATI XL SVGA with 1M.
>
>The ATI driver I am using is Ver 2.11.  Is there a new one?
>
>When I bring up Windows using VGA as the display driver (lower resolution),
>it works fine.
>
>Any help would be much appreciated...
>
Just a guess here but are you using a windows 3.0 driver in windows 3.1?
I've had the same problem with a few graphics intensive applications and, just
like you, when I used the driver that came with win 3.1, it worked just fine.
As your text didn't mention much about your windows environment, I could only 
guess.

Good luck.

Frank Moon

B
Organization: European Space Research Institute (ESRIN)
Date: Wednesday, 30 Sep 1992 16:30:17 SET
From: <JFARRES@ESRIN.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Document management systems

We face the problem of building a document management system for a group
of FrameMaker users. The new system should address problems such as
information retrieval, configuration management, access control and,
possibly, document workflow.
I wonder if you found a convenient solution to all/some of these problems
in the scope of FrameMaker documentation.

Jordi Farres
jfarres@esrin.bitnet  (also jf@dcs.ed.ac.uk)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: stumpf@cssun1.psychologie.uni-freiburg.de (Michael Stumpf)
Subject: Frame on PowerBook?
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Freiburg, Germany
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 15:50:58 GMT

Anyone using Frame on a PowerBook?
Recommended configuration?
e.g. 140 4/40 or 8/40?
     170 4/40 or 8/40 (or 8/70)?
Problems regarding exchanges to other systems (e.g. SUNs)?
Thanx, Michael

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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: jpenovic@wizard.Berkeley.EDU (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Re: Autosave/backup bug?
Reply-To: jpenovic@1.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:53:51 GMT

In article <Bvo0KE.Iqn@encore.com>, jpenovic@encore.com (Jan Penovich) writes:
> I use the Frame 3.1 Open systems version on an Encore 93 computer.
> According to the documentation I can use Automatic Backup on Save 
> AND/OR Automatic Save.  But in practice, if I turn off
> Automatic Backup on Save, and turn on Automatic Save - Every n minutes,
> it won't do any automatic saves while I'm working.  If I turn 
> Automatic Backup on Save back on, Frame will start doing auto saves 
> at the specified minutes.  Turn off Auto. Backup on Save, and Frame 
> stops doing auto saves again.
> 
> Is this a bug or feature?  :-)  A lot of people here don't
> like autobackup files created when they exit a file, but want
> the file saved automatically while they are working on it in
> case the system crashes while they're working. (we work on
> development machines)
> 

  Well, wouldn't you know it, it's working OK today.
  Yesterday, it didn't work for a couple of us and now it is.
  Go figure.

  Anyone else have that problem?

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From: jack@richsun.cpg.trs.reuter.com (Jack Gidding)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Mif to RTF converter??
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:33:51 GMT


Hi,


Anyone have a MIF to RTF converter for NeXT????


Thanks,

---
Jack Gidding    Sr. Development Engineer   
Reuters         1400 Kensington Road   Oak Brook,IL 60521

jack@richsun.cpg.trs.reuter.com        NeXT mail welcome!
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"Credit is a euphemism for debt."      - Billy McKenzie




Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: bisc@zellweger.ch (Thomas K. Bischoff)
Subject: Re: Solaris 2
Reply-To: bisc@zellweger.CH (Thomas K. Bischoff)
Organization: Zellweger Uster AG, Switzerland
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 21:28:42 GMT

In article <chl.717757806@cs.man.ac.uk> chl@cs.man.ac.uk (Charles Lindsey) writes:
>
>I am in the process of acquiring Framemaker 3.1, OpenLook version. I had
>assumed, perhaps naively, that Frame would have written this using the
>upwards compatibility guidlines that Sun have been promulgating for a good
>two years now, in particular by using shared libraries, at least for system
>calls.
>
>To make sure, I called Frame International in Dublin. The sales droid seemed
>to think that the present version was NOT compatible with Solaris 2, and
>that there would be a new release for the purpose (but she could give me no
>timescale whatsoever for this). However, I am quite sure that she did not
>really understand the question, nor even realise that there was a question
>to be asked. She promised that a techie would ring back, but nothing
>happened.
>

shared libs : yes
> ldd maker3ol.exe
        -lwire.1 => /t/ow3/lib/libwire.so.1.0
        -ltt.1 => /t/ow3/lib/libtt.so.1.1
        -lcps.1 => /t/ow3/lib/libcps.so.1.0
        -lX11.4 => /t/ow3/lib/libX11.so.4.3
        -lc.1 => /usr/lib/libc.so.1.6

But considering the uncertain future of NeWS, i would rethink the decision
to buy the OL version.
-- 
Thomas K. Bischoff    Net: bit@ten.ch,bisc@zellweger.ch 
***** Minds, like parachutes, only function when open.

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: ari@netcom.com (Ari Davidow)
Subject: Re: poor math equations
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:18:56 GMT

>Why doesn't Frame do math right.....

Oy. It's quite an embarrassment. We started investigating the program
because of the alleged math capabilities, and yet it is exactly on
projects with math that we can't use the program. It in no way can be
said to support properly aesthetic, or even acceptable, math.
Micropositioning is a poor substitute for understanding how to
properly build equations--it is both a limited tool, and puts the burden
on the user to improvise, nor does it solve the problem of improperly
scaled multi-line-deep symbols.

ari
ari@netcom.com

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: warren@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (Gary P. Warren)
Subject: Re: Asthetics
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:35:36 GMT

> Shrink wrap may chop off some of the equation as it is seen in the document,
> but it will print all...at least so I am assured by Frame tech support.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This is true, but when you put in a large matrix or something tall, it
will overwrite the text above and below the equation.  What I do is simply
drag the upper and lower anchor points to make the frame bigger.   This
is a problem (shall I say bug or poor algorithm?) with the shrink wrap 
thingy.

Also, I don't think Frame tech support has ever seriously used the equation
editor (other than simple equations).  When I talked with them, I was always
put on hold so the guy could get the answer.

The way I put equations in now is to use framemath to create a shrink 
wrapped anchored frame (so I can auto-number it), 
then drag it to the size I need, then use mathtype (on the mac) to create
the equation, then paste it in the anchored frame.  This is a royal pain
but at least I don't have to micro position stuff.  (DID YOU HERE THAT
ANYONE AT FRAME.... I HATE MICRO POSITIONING)
From: snd@dynastar.cs.princeton.edu (Stefanos Damianakis)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Edu Version of frame?
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:36:34 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Princeton University

In article <1992Sep27.195318.1@vax1.umkc.edu> rleberle@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
   From: rleberle@vax1.umkc.edu
   Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 01:53:18 GMT
   Sender: root@parsifal.umkc.edu (Parsifal Administration)
   Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City


   can someone here give me a pointer to a source for the educational
   version of frame (win31/Unix). Price?

the Ingram part number is 209-202, goes for $199. see your local
Ingram distributer.

On that note, does anyone know if there are any differences between
the "real" version and the educational one?

   Is it possible to start with the Windows-Version and then upgrade
   to the Unix-CeVersion?
don't know


-stef
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: caughey@engr.UVic.CA (Dave  Caughey)
Subject: SUMMARY: Printing Booklets 
Reply-To: caughey@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 16:00:47 GMT

Well, if you want to edit in portrait mode, and still have the *option*
of printing 2-up double-sided booklets, it seems that there is only
one simple solution (based on the responses to the net, and via e-mail).

The way to do it is to grab a set of utilities written by Angus Duggan
and use the application 'pstops'.

The package compiled and ran perfectly, first time!  The utilities even
have man pages!

From ajcd@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Angus Duggan)
>PSutils is available from ftp.dcs.ed.ac.uk (129.215.160.5) in the file
>pub/ajcd/psutils.tar.Z. I am currently revising and expanding the suite of
>programs, but the new version will not be available for a while yet.

Thanks to everyone who responded.
___________________________________________________________________________
Dave Caughey				Dept. of Elec. & Comp. Engineering
caughey@sirius.uvic.ca			P.O. Box 3055
                      			University of Victoria		  
"Ten million lemmings can't be wrong"   Victoria, B.C., CANADA V8W 3P6
From: ask@sei.cmu.edu (Alan Koch)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Spell Checking Anomaly!
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:59:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute


In article <rodger.718309181@cadence.com>, rodger@Cadence.COM (Rodger Hughes) writes:

|> >"What?  Evacuate now, in our moment of triumph? 
|> >Surely you overestimate their chances."
|> 
|> >Hmmm...what does it mean?
|> 
|> The legend live on!

For the culturally deprived, this line is from Star Trek 2(?), "The Wrath of
Kahn".  In the climax scene, Kahn thinks he has Kirk cornered and is ready to
polish him off when one of his minions sees the gravity of their own situation
and suggests evacuation instead.  This is Kahn's last line -- ever.

ask@sei.cmu.edu

Alan S. Koch
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA  15213
From: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Shading text column
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 20:54:04 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The GRAFex Company

saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal) writes:

> Instead of playing with PostScript, go to the master page (<esc>pm) hold
> the shift and left click the mouse.  You should probably have "borders"
> turned on to make this easy to see.  The text rectangle will now have the
> handles showing you've selected it then just chose a gray Fill
> color/pattern from the Tools menu and left click that.  Now you'll have to
> apply your master page to the appropriate body page(s).  Use the "Column
> Layout" menu under the Page pull down menu to do so.  RTFM on this menu as
> it is a little complicated.

Doesn't even have to be the Master page.  Select the text frame on the page
and do the above.

This technique can also be used to create reverse type blocks.  Select the
text frame, shade it black and change the type color to white using the
Format Character dialog.

steve

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              A prince trapped in the body of a dirty old man.
From: fjk4i@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Frederick Joseph Keith)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: poor math equations
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:11:46 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <BvE423.8yu@news.larc.nasa.gov> warren@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (Gary P. Warren) writes:
>I have been using framemaker for some time now to write technical papers
>which contain many equations and figures.  The problem is that the 
>equations that framemaker creates can be poor quality when the expressions
>become complicated.  For example, I have noticed that diacritical marks
>(such as hats, etc) place over some lower greek symbols are not placed
>correctly (centered, etc.).  Frames response is to use micro positioning.
>What a pain.  Also, the closed integral sign does not scale correctly.
>If I make this symbol bigger, the circle is not centered over the integral and
>the integral becomes fat and ugly instead of taller. The left and right
>brackets do not scale correctly.... I am not going to list everything here...
>
>...
>
>My 2 cents.
>

I agree totally!  I've griped to Frame tech support about this,
and while they've acknowledged the problem, I've gotten no hint
as to whether or not it will ever be fixed.  If you think the
problem is bad on Unix/Mac, you should see how poor the
alignment is on the Windows version!


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Internet: fjk4i@virginia.edu 
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: glew@pdx007.intel.com (Andy Glew)
Subject: Mouseless FrameMaker Operation under X
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:42:55 GMT


I have recently set up my window manager (twm) so that I can do nearly
all operations without using a mouse. (I have RMS, and mousing hurts
my wrists.)

I can move between windows, select windows, etc., all using my keyboard.

Obviously I can't draw in FrameMaker, but since I mainly use text, all
is okay.


Except --- I cannot get FrameMaker to move the window into which it
types text in.  NB. this is *not* a X focus problem - see below.


As all know, if you have two FrameMaker document windows up, with mouse
tracking and focus following the mouse, most keyboard commands like
    Page Up
    Page Down
are applied to the window that the mouse is in (X's focus window).

However, simply typing text does not work so simply. FrameMaker's
"text cursor" stays in the window it was last in. If the mouse is in
that window, text is typed at FrameMaker's text cursor. If the mouse
is not in that window, text is not typed in.
    
Pressing left-button on the mouse moves FrameMaker's text cursor to a
position near the mouse in the window that the mouse is in.

Unfortunately, this is the only way by which I know how to move
FrameMaker's "text cursor".

I can warp the X mouse to my framemaker windows nicely using the
keyboard, but I cannot start typing without a mouse action.




Is there any way that I can direct FrameMaker to move the "text cursor"
to near the mouse in the current window, as a keyboard operation.

Or, failing that, is there any way that I can simulate a left mouse
button event from a keyboard event in X?



NB. I do not believe this to be an X focus problem. I have 
the following X resources set:

    Maker*focusOnMouse: True
    Maker*FocusOnMouse: True
    Mwm*keyboardFocusPolicy: pointer
    OpenWindows.SetInput: followmouse

I have the TWM command "focus" bound to a key, and I can, indeed, set
the X focus to a particular FrameMaker window, and I can continue to
type in that window after I have moved the mouse away.  I just cannot
*start* typing in a FrameMaker window, if the text cursor is not
already there.






I am using FrameMaker 3.0X on an IBM RS6000 under MIT X11r5 (I can
also run under standard IBM X11r4) etc.
--

Andy Glew, glew@ichips.intel.com
Intel Corp., M/S JF1-19, 5200 NE Elam Young Pkwy, 
Hillsboro, Oregon 97124-6497

This is a private posting; it does not indicate opinions or positions
of Intel Corp.

Intel Inside (tm)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: joerg@vega (Joerg Trinitis)
Subject: FM3.0x bug FM1.3-docs
Organization: Lehrstuhl fuer Hochspannungstechnik, TU Munich
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 17:08:50 GMT
Summary: frame3.0x on sun sparc-ipc gets cought in infinite loop when opening FM1.3 docs

Help,

I have to convert several hundred FM1.3 files to FM3.0-format.

My problem is that when opening some of the 1.3 documents, FM3.0
first correctly forks the 1.3binarytomif-filter, which appears
to produce correct MIF-output, but when reading the MIF-file,
FrameMaker gets caught in an infifite loop. All it does is using
all available CPU-time.

My machine is a SUN SparcStation IPC running FM3.0X. I have no
other machines or FMs available. I desperately need to solve this
problem as soon as possible.

Please mail any hints/workarounds/patches or other useful information
to trinitis\@informatik.tu-muenchen.de

Thanks a lot
Joerg

-----
Joerg F. Trinitis	trinitis\@informatik.tu-muenchen.de
From: graaff@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Hans de Graaff)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Frame3.1A crashing on references
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:46:24 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology

Hi,

I'm having a problem right now with the OpenLook version of Frame3.1A.
Almost always when I want to include a reference in a document frame
dumps core on me. I am working with a book which contains some 10
documents, but even when I refer to the current document it dumps
core.

In the tradition of good bugs: sometimes it does work.

I'm wondering whether other people have encountered this, and if there
is a solution for it. (Maybe I'm just doing something stupid.)

Hans
--
Hans de Graaff
winfhdg@is.twi.tudelft.nl
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: warren@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (Gary P. Warren)
Subject: Re: poor math equations
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:25:51 GMT

What I forgot to mention in my original post was the following.  My wife 
works here at NASA also and was responsible for ordering over 80 fixed node
licenses from frame for each of the researchers in her division.  Several
months ago I was talking with a researcher there and he had stopped using
framemaker because of the poor equation editor.  It is sad but frame is 
not only losing prospective customers, but they are losing some old ones
as well.  I sure hope they fix the problems.  I get the impression they 
are eager to fix things.... Of course when I talked to someone there in the
math area, he didn't seem to think there was a problem.  If framemaker had
a respectable math ability, it would be hard to find a better DP product.


Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: azuelos@nuri.inria.fr (Daniel  AZUELOS)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: ** Frame bug with TWM **
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:09:50 GMT
Organization: INRIA * Rocquencourt BP 105 * F-78153 LE CHESNAY CEDEX* France

I've the following problem with Frame under the TWM window manager:

I use in $HOME/.twmrc the flag:

IconifyByUnmapping

when I close a Frame window like "Paragraph Format", I get a small icon
with the following label: 'International FrameMaker - Paragraph Format'

I'd really apreciate to get rid of all these decorations.

Please ((*&(*^*%&^%) don't reply I should use Motif.

Thanx to reply by E-mail.
I'll summarize.

-- 
E-mail  :   azuelos@polytechnique.fr
From: russ@druhi.ATT.COM (RauhauserR)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Cost-effective monitor size for PC FrameMaker
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:56:13 GMT
Distribution: comp


My group is trying to put together some PC systems for FrameMaker use.
From the functionality point of view, it's pretty easy to see that
bigger is better when it comes to monitors.  But given the prices for
color monitors, it's also clear that bigger is much more expensive.
For example, the numbers from one vendor are:

    14"  -- $ 300
    17"  -- $1000
    19"  -- $1600

We've decided to go with either 17" or 19".  A question for people
who've had some experience with both:  Is the larger size worth the
extra money given heavy FrameMaker usage and occasional CorelDRAW-ing?
Can the larger size be justified in terms of increased efficiency?
Thanks for your help.
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: warren@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (Gary P. Warren)
Subject: poor math equations
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:01:15 GMT

I have been using framemaker for some time now to write technical papers
which contain many equations and figures.  The problem is that the 
equations that framemaker creates can be poor quality when the expressions
become complicated.  For example, I have noticed that diacritical marks
(such as hats, etc) place over some lower greek symbols are not placed
correctly (centered, etc.).  Frames response is to use micro positioning.
What a pain.  Also, the closed integral sign does not scale correctly.
If I make this symbol bigger, the circle is not centered over the integral and
the integral becomes fat and ugly instead of taller. The left and right
brackets do not scale correctly.... I am not going to list everything here...

My point is this.  Why doesn't Frame take a program which produces good
quality equations (such as MathType for the Mac, or TeX) and emulate the
results.  (I hate using TeX by the way)  I really don't think anyone cares
that the equation editor can solve simple equations.  This is a gimmick and
not a desktop publishing need.  I use Mathematica for my symbolic manipulation
needs.  Since I use a Macintosh, I've seen Microsoft has incorporated MathType
into Word.  I use the MathType eqautions in Frame now since I have a Mac but
this doesn't help the people here who use the Unix version.....  

FrameMaker handles my DP needs fairly well but it would gain a stronger 
following in my area here at NASA if its equation editor produced better 
results.

My 2 cents.

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: artc@bacchus.epps.kodak.com (Art Campbell)
Subject: Re: Converter Frame -> WinWord wanted
Reply-To: artc@bacchus.atex.kodak.com
Organization: Atex Publishing Systems, Inc.
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:52:41 GMT

In article <SCHWAB.92Sep28120335@sirius.zwi.sh.bosch.de>, schwab@zwi.sh.bosch.de (Thomas Schwab) writes:
|> Does anybody out there know of a converter
|> from frame format (eg MIF) to WinWord format.
|> 
|> Unfortunately, only the other direction (Winword to Frame)
|> is available with the PC (Windows) version of FM.
|> 

The latest and greatest version of Word For Word Professional now claims to
support MIF format, as well as some 80 other text file formats including
WinWord. I haven't tested this particular conversion, but I've moved
files between Signature and FM, and between RTF and several other formats.
It's a good product....

Art

-- 
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   DoD 358                                  _Real_ BMWs have just two wheels.
    "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent 
     and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
                      All the usual disclaimers apply.
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