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From: etlclem@etlxd30.ericsson.se (Carl JF Ekstrom)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Al Jourgensen
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:51:08 GMT
Reply-To: etlclem@etlxd30.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Burgess Hill, England

In article 8083@solace.hsh.se, svarten@solace.hsh.se (Christer Jansson) writes:
> Hi,
> 
> I wonder what projects exept Ministry and Revolting Cocks that
> Al Jourgenson is involved in and if there is anything worth listening
> too.

A lot !
Which one you like best depends on what you like with/in Ministry.
1000 Homo DJ's is probably my favorite but not much is released here. Look for 
the CD "EP" Supernaut.
Other stuff worth checking out that Al has worked on/with includes SKREW ("Burning 
In Water, Drowning In Flames") and SkateNigs ("Stupid People....").
Then there is Acid Horse, Lard....bla bla bla

> 
> And is there any plans for Ministry to come to Sweden in a near future?
> If there is.. I guess I will have to go :-)

Nop, as far as I know they are done with their European Tour. If you missed them
at Brixton Academy or in Germany, you're fucked.

> I also heard a cover of Skinny Puppys Assimilate when I was at at a concert
> with Pouppe Fabrikk, Cat Rapes Dog, PAGE and some others.. I recomend all of

I've got some Cat Rapes Dog stuff on CD but it's a bit too Front 242-ish for me.
I've seen them live too and that was ok I guess.
Page I've never heard of? Any good?

> them.. PAGE sings in Swedish, so it might be alittle hard for people outside
> Sweden to understand. Anyway.. on what CD with Ministry does Assmilate appear

Are you sure you're not thinking of Smothered Hope?
It's on a "bootleg" (I got mine when I visited in Sweden this summer so it should be
fairly easy to get for you) and is called "So What" and out on a "lable" called 
Teen Spirit, TS002.
> on?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Christer H. Jansson, Solace, Hogskolan Sundsvall/Harnosand, Sweden
> E-mail: svarten@solace.hsh.se, lysator.liu.se or abacus.hgs.se
> "Elks are the most beautiful animals on this earth"
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Oh yeah, as hood-ornaments?

Cheers / Carl Ekstrom

etlclem@etlxd30.ericsson.se (Carl JF Ekstrom) @ Ericsson Telecom, Burgess Hill, England
From: pdivine@unixg.ubc.ca (Patrick Divine)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Negitivland - The Letter U & the Numeral 2
Date: 11 Jan 1993 05:16:31 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
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What is the status of The Letter U and the Numeral 2, I have been hearing
rumours that it's been banned along with with actual U2 album that was
banned some time ago.

I've got Silent's Fall catalog and it was advertised for sale in it,
however people are leading me to beleive it is no longer available.  Are
there still copies of it floating around, or has it been banned along with
its predecessor?

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From: spray@convex.com (Rob Spray)
Subject: Re: Pigface
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:39:28 GMT
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              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1ihg9sINNg6j@shelley.u.washington.edu> midnite@milton.u.washington.edu (Midnite Wombat) writes:

>When I saw Pigface at the Ritz in NYC, En Esch and Ogre were there. In fact,
>they sang a majority of the songs. I was kinda disappointed that Connelly
>didn't show..but I wasn't expecting Trent, he never shows.

Esch and Orge were with Pigface in Dallas too. Connelly was on the
Ministry tour that was running concurrently.

--Rob   spray@convex.com
From: vidarh@cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: CLOCKDVA: Digital Soundtracks, more info
Date: 8 Jan 93 12:57:14 GMT
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway

For those interested, here's Adi Newton's notes on the press info sheet:

"Digital Soundtracks represents the intermediate interests of DVA with the
 concepts and techniques of the visual realm as utilised in the classical
 science fiction films of the 40's and 50's. Tracks such as "Dimishing Point"
 based on "The Incredible Shrinking Man" of J.G. Ballard quotes as "a
 masterpiece among the best of all time". It deals with the ideas that are
 still central to the human condition. "Station of the Mind" is a hybrid
 marriage between H.P. Lovecraft's "Mountains of Madness" and Howard Hawks
 production of "The Thing From Another World". These are basically some of the
 themes that can be found on Digital Soundtracks. It lays somwhere within and
 beyond what can be determined as Techno or Ambient. We like to think of it as
 an audiograph which conjures up the images of the Inner Cinema, a nueral
 landscape illuminated. It was originally recorded and composed in 1989.
 Finally it can be released. The result - A Digital Soundtrack for the Inner 
 Cinema."

The following tracks are CD extra's:

	The Presence, Chemicals, Delta Machines and Stills Of Emotions

...too bad for vinyl fanatics, Delta Machines and Stills Of Emotions are two
of the best tracks on the CD...

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From: baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (baden de bari)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: front-line-assembly vid
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 14:14:18 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

> That sounds to me like the "Mindphaser" video. I saw it and it looked
> pretty amazing to me. Except for the title of the song and the album
> (Tactical Neural Implant), I don't know much more than you do about it.
> I didn't get the impression it was from any upcoming movie, however; it
> just looks to me like they had a lot of money and free time and nothing
> better to do.
> 
> hafnir.

 
                Yeah, I saw that one too, and as you guys have said, I 
too thought that the clips used were for some massive sci-fi movie.  I 
mean it's compairable to T2 almost.
        For a Vancouver group.... all the power to 'em... (& $$$, I 
guess).
 
        >>Baden<<
From: crimson@omar.WPI.EDU (Jesus Christ on XTC)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: obscurity and 8-track cartridges...
Date: 13 Jan 1993 05:09:16 GMT
Organization: Russell Street UN*X Consultations
NNTP-Posting-Host: omar.wpi.edu

aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
> It's really a shame that 8-tracl cartridges went out of style. They would
>be perfect for tape-loop recordings that meets my noise needs. 
> Does anybody happen to have some old 8-tacks and a RECORDER stashed away
>in their attic that they'd like to get rid of? 

well, the cousin of the 8-track, the "cart" is a radio standby for short 
loops ...some places are ditching in favour of "CD-carts", still others for
DATs and the like....you may be able to get some cart machines from a radio
station that is 'modernizing'.....

Carts are the backbone of Negativland, btw...it is quite stunning to watch
them flipping carts, changing instruments, grabbing noisemaking Things, pushing
buttons on the new Booper [and other things]...wow, man......
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From: AusAJ.Hill@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Gary Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: F242 - Live Teeri et
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:56:41 GMT
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A number of people asked me to post the details of this "bootleg"
given in Melody Maker, so here it is from page page 4 of the Xmas
issue.

Front 242 have a limited  dition "bootleg" album, "Live Teeri et",
released by Guzzi Records - via the band's "real" label, Play It Again
Sam - this week. The album was recorded on F242's 1991 "Tyranny For
You" European Tour, and manufactured ot an illegal Italian CD Factory.
A consigment was seized from the factory by Flying Records, Paly it
Agupe.!Sam;s Italian licensees, who then, a14 0!rding to a spokesman,
"blainlme aware of the particularly high quality of the sound
reproduction and packaging of the CDs. Hence this semi-official
release". Front 242 are curreUtly in


#etudio working on a new album
with producer Andy Wallace of Nirvana and Sonic Youth fame, for
release in the spring.

Hope this is useful,

Gary
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From: baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (baden de bari)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: [* Industrial/Alternative Vibage wanted *]
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 11:59:27 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

 
        I'd like to know if anyone out there has any Ministry, Smiths, 
NE, NIN, KMFDM... etc... on CASSETTE (bleh) that they wouldn't mind 
getting rid of.
 
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From: cmarsigl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Klif Marsiglio)
Subject: Re: John Zorn - Film Works
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:43:43 GMT

Glad to hear others actually like Zorn too! I've only listened to him for the
last year but his work is amazing... It seems like every where I look I find
more of his stuff (I'm a big bungle fan, but never really looked at the liner
notes -- same as Kronos Quartet remembering there was a really fucked track
on one of there discs 'Winter was Hard' if I remember right, with turn tables
scratchy violins and some Japanese chic singing Sure enough I looked again
and it was Zorn :)

I only have about 4 discs of his solo work, is there a discography around
or any other bands hes worked with???

I'd rather listen to some one like him than this old formulatic shitty 
industrial stuff people are tring to pass off as music ;)

klif

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: JBER000 <JBER@MUSICT.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: Anybody knows THUD?
Organization: McGill University
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:16:31 GMT

I' ve recently seen an ad promoting a CD from a new band called
THUD. They were described as "Helmet beating Godflesh with Henry
Rollins's leg".
 Has anybody heard them?

Jacek {jber@musicb.mcgill.ca}

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jim Petersen)
Subject: Re: Ministry review, SF
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 08:07:22 GMT

In article <51a3wB3w165w@sizone.UUCP> sizone!thf@ee.ryerson.ca (Jason Kalra) writes:
>Re:  Can life get any worse than having to sit through Hank Williams Sr. 
>at a Ministry concert.
>

Come on. What is it with people that they can't appreciate Hank
Williams? It's great stuff (and no, I am NOT kidding. Listen to
it sometime). Judging from interviews with Al, he plays it because
he LIKES it. It is also related to the fact that he is moving/
has moved to Texas, (leaving a void in the Chicago music scene).

He has 'threatened' on more than one occasion that his next album
may be country...

You should have seen the hicks in Milwaukee. They were REALLY
pissed off at the country music... I guess it struck to close
to home for them. The Chicago crowd seemed to appreciate it...

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 ...More than just ashes                                 Jim Petersen
When your dreams come true               petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
From: terjesa@ifi.uio.no (Terje Sannum)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: SWEDEN
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:15:41 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Originator: terjesa@yrsa.ifi.uio.no

Looks like I'm going to Gothenburg this weekend, so I need info
on raves, clubs, conserts etc.

Please mail me ASAP, or call my pager +47 96-78107.

-Terje (terjesa@ifi.uio.no)
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From: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: CLOCKDVA: Help me out, please!
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:10:58 GMT
Reply-To: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Organization: The University Of Edinburgh - Department Of Computer Science

And lo, awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford) spake unto the masses saying:
>
> I'd tell you if I could - could anyone confirm that _Digital Soundtracks_
> is on general release yet? I know Vidar's already given a brief review of
> it, but Vidar's copy was, I believe, a promo sent direct from Contempo.
> Anyone actually seen _D_S_ in the *shops* yet?

Nope, no sign of it at all. In fact, I just checked with my local shop
today (where I have it on order) and they informed me that it's been put
"on extend". Further inquiry revealed that this means it *was* due for
release recently but has been delayed.

This, of course, probably only applies to the UK and shelves in other
countries in Europe are probably creaking under the weight of massed copies
of _Digital Soundtracks_

Wishful Thinking: That it's been delayed as they've decided to junk the
crappy Digi-pak and put it in a *real* CD case.

Al

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From: sunshine@cco.caltech.edu (Tom Renner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Coil CDs for sale
Date: 11 Jan 1993 01:43:52 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

The response to me wanting to sell Coil - Scatology and Coil - Horse Rotorvator
has been overwhelming.  Guess I should have asked for more.  But they have been
sold.  Thanks, everyone, for your interest.

Tom
sunshine@cco.caltech.edu



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From: mason@netcom.com (Mason Jones)
Subject: Re: Foetus discog
Organization: Charnel House
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:17:19 GMT

bkeeley@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Brian Keeley) writes:
: >VARIOUS ARTISTS
: >   Mesomorph Enduros             1992      CD       (B-C)       ABB36CD
: >   *** Includes the track "Incesticide" by FOETUS INC.
: 
: I know questions like this are annoying but would anybody out there
: like to review this compilation?  Or at least post a track listing?

Ask and ye shall receive.

Cop Shoot Cop "Room 429"	(previously unreleased)
Melvins "Vile"
Jesus Lizard "NUB"
Hammerhead "Louse"		(previously unreleased)
Helios Creed "Sister Sarah"
Tad "Pig Iron"
Foetus Inc "Insecticide"
Thinking Fellers "Nothing Solid"
Laughing Hyenas "Candy"
Drunk Tank "Hog Ditch"		(previously unreleased)
Pain Teens "Hands in Fire"
Of Cabbages & Kings "The Reign"
Barkmarket "Johnny Shiv"	(previously unreleased)
Unsane "Bath"			(this version previously unreleased)
Motherhead Bug "Blister"	(previously unreleased)

Overall it's a great comp, the only track I actively dislike is
the Thinking Fellers one, which is just silly, stupid and annoying.
A few of the others don't stand out a lot, such as the Hammerhead,
Drunk Tank, and Barkmarket, but that doesn't mean they're bad, just
not as unique as some of the others. The Cop Shoot Cop, Foetus,
Of Cabbages & Kings, and Motherhead Bug tracks are the best in my
opinion. Good stuff. Foetus is compiling volume 2 as we speak, by
the way.


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From: rachim_t1@verifone.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Ministry review, Hawaii
Date: 7 Jan 93 11:01:37 -1000
Organization: VeriFone Inc., Honolulu HI

To let you guys know, big show in Hawaii are a ripoff.  They have ONE of the
bands in a three-band tour play one month, charging $23, then the next month
they have another one of the bands.  So in a few weeks we have to pay another
$20 for Helmet.

This show was outdoors, on a rec park field on Hickam Airforce Base (bad sign).
I missed the opening band, local thrash metal.  Being outdoors I knew I could
find a way to sneak in, so scouting the area I found the perfect place and just
sauntered in.  Security was retarded.

I had the pleasure of sitting through the hour of H. Willeams, Sr. (I thought
it was Arlo Guthrie?) Some classic songs, how could you guys complain?
Without much fanfare Ministry start. NWO followed by a couple more new ones.
The pit was a mass of stupidity and the 'crowd riders' were too engrossed in
what they were doing to pay attention to the music.  I stood by the main pit in
front and just watched the pictures.  I'm not a Ministry 'fan' (stupid idea) so
I don't know all the songs, just the main hits.  Just One Fix, and the pictures
were great. Psalm 69 was awesome.  I wasn't wearing ear plugs but funny, it
wasn't even that loud.  Al introduces Chris C. and they do an intense So What
plus a few others with him.  He looks like the kind of guy who, 10 years ago,
would have a tall, spiked up mohawk.  This is not the most exciting show I've
been to.  Why aren'[t they doing older songs?  I was waiting for Halloween.
After Stigmata, someone comes on the mike and announces they have to shut down 
the show. (Apparently, the military were getting noise complaints). 
WHAT? 6 songs?  Lights come on and the crew begins  dismantling,
throwing all the picks and drum sticks, song lists out to the audience to try
and make peace.  People were pissed, to say the least.  Angry chants of
Bullshit, Fuck Ministry, Fuck the military, Ripoff, I want a refund, everybody
rush the stage, fucking $23 for 6 songs, fucking bullshit.  I left feeling good 
I got my monies worth.

Good show while it lasted.  The band was tight. The pictures were entertaining.
Al was smiling at times. 

-R.


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From: jlitchfi@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Jon Litchfield)
Subject: Re: Ministry review, SF
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 01:54:11 GMT

In article <51a3wB3w165w@sizone.UUCP> sizone!thf@ee.ryerson.ca (Jason Kalra) writes:
>Forgive me for not quoting.
>
>Re:  Can life get any worse than having to sit through Hank Williams Sr. 
>at a Ministry concert.
>
>Not really. The same thing happened here.  I, too, was overcome with that 
>introspective 'get-me-back-in-the-womb' feeling.  I asked a friend why 
>this sort of thing is done.  He didn't know, but I've assumed it's either 
>to 1) Ca everyone down a bit, or 2) make the next band sound _that_ much 
>better.  And when you have a band like Sepeltura playing, you'll want as 
>much assistance as possible.  Holy.  

I think there a couple of different reasons. One is that a lot of musicians 
have "odd" musical tastes. Often, they get tired of listening to stuff that is
like what they play. And sometimes they just want to make a bigger crowd        reaction. People are gonna cheer more if a band they like comes on stage AND
"YMCA" is turned off (with my apologies to disco fans - I really hate that song
and 54:40 did that to me). 
-- 
Welcome to Canada, asshole. The land of gripe and loonie...

jon litchfield
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From: vanlamme@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (VAN LAMMEREN M - ENGLISH)
Subject: Re:Re: Ministry review and canned music
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:59:40 GMT

How about this for canned music before a concert?

At a Soundgarden show at The Spectrum in Toronto in January 1992, the canned music was Black Sabbath's _Master of Reality_, followed by Ministry's _The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste_!

The slam pit went crazy when the Ministry started, and although it was good music, it did not 'spoil' the show, or make Soundgarden seem any less good.

Maybe Ministry should use _BadMotorFinger_ instead of Hank Williams.

P.S.  I have an interview with Alien in which he says one of his future projects will be a country and western band.

Mike van Lammeren
"My eyes shit out lies..."

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From: homulka@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Homulka)
Subject: NIN videos
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: world,local
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:21:01 GMT

Are there any video EPs or compilations of NIN vidoes available anywhere?
I've only seen one for "Down In It" and am interested in seeing others.

Thanks
Tom Homulka
homulka@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
From: baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (baden de bari)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ambient stuff...
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 11:53:12 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

 
> Ministry.  A fun stereotype that I see fly around every so often goes 
> something like "Oh, it's the type of crowd that listens to Ministry,  
> Skinny Puppy, Nine Inch Nails, wear black, and headbang a lot".  So, 
> there's either some corrolation that I'm unaware of, or Ministry and 
> Puppy are enough to make enough people feel Alternative.  I only started 
 
        The thing is about alternative/industrial... people think that 
you have to dress a certain way to listen to it, and that you're just a 
wannabe just because you DO listen to it.  Almost like you have to belong 
to a special social class and look a particular way in order to receive 
the honor of being accepted as a normal person just because you listen to 
the alt/indi vibe.
                Bites, doesn't it.  I mean, sure there's a few people out 
there that could really care less of what others think of them (ehem), 
which is good, but what really puts the crap on my corn-flakes is those 
people that look down on ya because you're not into the alternative 
freeky darkage look.  
                What has society come to!?... bah, who knows.
 
 
          
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