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From: bkt@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Barrie Trinkle)
Subject: Re: Washing hanks of wool
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:06:48 GMT

Dawn_Scotting@kcbbs.gen.nz (Dawn Scotting) writes:

>Susan writes:  
>>I have successfully reused wool yarn this way. Put the hanks into hot  
>>water (as hot as it comes out of your tap) and let the hanks sit until  
>  
>I HOPE you are not talking about pure wool here? You can put acrylic  
>wool into hot water (although I still don't recommend it) but I would  
>never, never put pure wool into hot water, it shrinks like the billy-o!  
>

But that's not a problem when you're reusing yarn--after the yarn has
shrunk, you just knit it again!  So you have a little "less" yarn than
you did before--no big deal, unless you want to make something the
same size as the garment that was previously knitted out of the yarn!   
(Plus, I would think of it as a "bonus" that the yarn was pre-shrunk--
means I wouldn't have to worry as much about the knitted item shrinking
when it's washed.)
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From: jimd@ssd.intel.com (Jim DePorter)
Subject: Re: Washing hanks of wool
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Divison, Intel Corp.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:26:38 GMT

In article <1hcfcmINN97g@rave.larc.nasa.gov>, posenau@suntory.larc.nasa.gov (Maryanne Posenau) writes:
|> 
|> Pre-shrunk yarn seems to be a sensible thought, so it makes me wonder
|> why we don't do it.  We pre-shrink fabrics before sewing, what makes
|> yarn different?  The yardage would no longer be accurate, but if the
|> designer had presumably done the same thing (i.e., "requires xxx yards
|> of yarn blah (yardage before pre-shrinking)"), then it ought to work
|> out.  There's variability in the amount of yarn required anyway,
|> what's a little more uncertainty? :-) Ideas?  Answers?  More
|> questions?
|> 

Think of it as pie dough. The less you handle it the better it will
taste. You can work it quite a bit and it will still be pie dough, but
it won't be your best pie dough. The more you 'push' the limits of the
wool the more the wool will be less soft and less enjoyable. Of course
it will still be yarn, but it won't be your favorite and face it there
really is too much good wool around to spend time on something that
you'll never be happy with. Of course if the yarn is that perfect shade,
and if it is that perfect yarn that you can't do without, then give it
a try.

|> -- 
|> Mary-Anne Posenau
|> m.a.k.posenau@larc.nasa.gov

jimd

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From: Marina.Salume@corp.sun.com (Marina Salume)
Subject: Re: cross stitch patterns with tropical scenes
Organization: Cornell University, Ithaca NY
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:24:17 GMT

>Anyway, my sister-in-law just moved to south western Florida
>and she is desperately seeking counted cross stitch patterns
>with tropical scenes on it.

She can ask at a local shop if they'll order these designs for her.
Or she can call these two mail order businesses. I have not ordered
from either so can't comment on their service, but their catalogs
are quite complete:

>From my Mary jane's Cross and Stitch catalog: (call 800-334-6819)

Pegasus designs has: "Sea Mammals", five designs of a harp seal,
sea otters, walrus, orcas, bottle nosed dolphins, humpaback whales,
manatees, and California sea lions. $5.00

"The Living Sea" seven large fish designs: The Vigil, The Depths,
Queen angels, Aquarium Parade, Pacific Coral Garden, Porthole,
and the Living Sea.

(by the way, Pegasus specializes in animals of all types, dogs,
etc.)

Leisure Arts: "Gifts from the Sea" 21 different shell designs
(I won't list them all!) $4.50 (very detailed shells.)

>From my Marilyn's Needlework catalog: (call 616-364-8411) 

Stoney Creek "Tales of the Sea" $5.00 book 62. The picture is tiny
but it looks like the designs include an old fisherman with a little
girl and boy on his lap, children playing on the beach, a lighthouse,
and a man walking along the beach watching a sailing ship come in.

There are also some kits, like "Sailboats" GB60342 5" x 7" with frame
included for $4.99. It is two sailboats with a border of while dolphins.

"Gull on a Post" is a 13" x 26" picture, European imported linen and
DMC thread for $43.00 #PE1062 . It shows a gull sitting on a post with the
sea in the background.

"Sand Castle" SS50420 is a 11" x 14" "color art cross stitch" (the fabric
is printed with the design in color, you just stitch certain areas to add
texture) for $14.99. It has two little kids on the beach building a sand
castle.

Also, I remember a fairly recent issue of Cross Stitch and Country Crafts
magazine had a very colorful tropical fish design,too. Spring or summer
1992, I believe.

--marina
From: aheckman@nde.unl.edu (alice heckman)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: source of walnut crochet hooks
Date: 23 Dec 1992 02:09:50 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nde.unl.edu
Keywords: crochet

Help!!  I had a beautiful wooden crochet hook that was made out of walnut 
wood.  It had an ornate handle and was a joy to use.  After years of 
crocheting on handspun wool it had acquired a wonderful patina.  Please 
notice the tense of the verbs there.  

Recently I adopted a charming little dog.  He is a dear but has a few bad 
habits yet.  He rarely chews on anything other than the mail, but he just 
couldn't resist my crochet hook one day when I foolishly left it laying 
about.  Alas, it is useless.  

So-o-o, does anyone know where I can obtain these hooks?  It seems to me 
that I have seen them advertised somewhere in the recent past, but I can't 
seem to find any ads.  The same company makes knitting needles.  Thanks a 
lot.  It is neat having people available to ask these questions!!!

Alice Heckman
aheckman@nde.unl.edu
From: ron.parker@uttsbbs.uucp (Ron Parker) 
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Re: Seattle Textile Compu
Date: 23 Dec 92 09:21:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: ron.parker@uttsbbs.uucp (Ron Parker) 

 Newsgroups: alt.sewing,rec.crafts.textiles
 Subject: Re: Seattle Textile Computer Users Group

 On Date: 19 Dec 1992 18:55:24 GMT mberteig@cco.caltech.edu (Michelle
    Berteig) wrote:

 MB. I have tried twice to reply to Ron via e-mail, but it kept bouncing, so
 MB. I'm posting this, sorry!

My uucp address seems to fail sometimes.
Try   ron.parker%uttsbbs%boo@pacbell.com   which always (maybe) works

 MB. I read the post on the Seattle Textile group and I have some questions.
 MB. Does it have a BBS or any type of on-line services?  I'm going to spend
 MB. the holidays in Seattle and would like to check it out, if it exists.

No STCUG has no on line service.  You can phone Giselle Blythe
(Sec./Treas.) in Seattle at 206-789-6772 or newsletter editor Susan
Oldham at 72147.2637@compuserve.com

 MB. Also, what is Fibernet?  (I have heard several people mention it) Is it
 MB. also in Seattle?  What is the phone#?

Fibernet is a BBS specializing in all aspects of fibers, much like a
como of alt.sewing and rec.crafts.textiles, but with only minor activity
in sewing as compared to other fiber areas.  It is in rural wstern
Minnesota, phone 218-583-4337 at 8N1, and up to 9600 bps - or possibly
14,400 bps if I get a new modem working by the time you read this.
There is no charge to use Fibernet except the cost of your phone call.

 MB. send me!  Please email, I'm leaving for Seattle Monday and so won't have
 MB. a lot of time to collect responses...thanks!

I sorry that I didn't see your article untile today (12-23), but i hope
the info will be of some use to you or others.

Ron Parker
ron.parker%uttsbbs%boo@pacbell.com

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Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
From: knighton@world.std.com (Gwen Knighton)
Subject: Xstitch, metallic thread, celtic patterns
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 07:36:19 GMT

Oops. My file didn't include . . . 

I'm about to start a project which includes some metallic thread work.
I've never worked with metallics before, and the thread I have is much
more brittle than regular embroidery floss. Any tips from the experts
on making it easier to work with? Also, this thread is 4-ply, and I
expect it will be difficult to separate. What's the best way to separate
metallic thread without resorting to violence :-( ?
 
Also, if anyone has any sources for Celtic charted patterns, I'd like
to know about them, too. I have Dover's _Celtic_Charted_Designs_, which
is great but doesn't include many round designs.
Any help would be appreciated,
Gwen
 
Gwen Knighton          knighton@world.std.com         (harpist for hire)
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     And we will go to the merry greenwood to see what they do there, O
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From: judi@playfair.Stanford.EDU (Judi Davis)
Subject: Mary Engelbredt(?) Patterns
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ca
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 19:21:59 GMT


This is to the person looking for the Snap Out of It iron-on design.

I was in the New York Fabrics on Stevens Creek this Saturday. They
still have lots of Mary Engelbredt iron-ons, and in particular, lots
of the Snap Out of It design. Unfortunately, not Wherever you Go, There
You Are, which I was looking for. It appears as if New York Fabrics is
still carrying these designs.

BTW, you might want to wait until after Christmas before heading out
there -- the lines at each check-out were at least 10 deep!
From: ron.parker@uttsbbs.uucp (Ron Parker) 
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: felting
Date: 23 Dec 92 07:48:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: ron.parker@uttsbbs.uucp (Ron Parker) 

Keywords: felting,fulling board

On Thu, 10 Dec 1992 01:05:40 GMT, laurie@rtr.com (Laurie Moskow) wrote:

->
-> Does anyone know where I can get a fulling board for felting?
->

Some people use and old-fashioned wash board, still to be found at some
hardware stores.

Nancy Rose via Fibernet

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Subject: reuse yarn
From: Len Alshan <LMACC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 21 Dec 1992 21:56:54 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

I was beginning to think that I was the only maniac who never went through
this washing/steaming/dekinking stuff before using wool again.  I have
always ripped (I know, EZ wants us to say 'unkit', but I RIP) and ball the
yarn very loosely.  Have never had a problem.  My finding is that if anything,
the wool stretches, not shrink, but hey, strange things happen out here in
New York!
Len
From: sam@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Vicky Hansen)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:18:48 GMT
Subject: Re: CROCHET: Help Teaching Lefty
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles

In rec.crafts.textiles, healy@BBN.COM (Kathleen M. Healy) writes:

    My left-handed friend has asked me (a righty) to teach her to crochet.  Can
    anyone offer any helpful suggestions?  I would like this to be a positive
    experience for both of us.

It is easier to teach someone who uses the other hand.  You just sit in
front of the friend and mirror the actions.
Also, crochet can be done with either hand.  They might want to try both
and see which works better.
From: ron.parker@uttsbbs.uucp (Ron Parker) 
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Re: felting
Date: 24 Dec 92 08:33:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: ron.parker@uttsbbs.uucp (Ron Parker) 

 Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
 Subject: Re: felting

 On Date: 16 Dec 92 13:23:52 GMT chamberl@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Anne Chamberlain)
wrote:

 AC. What do you do with your felt?  What are you making it for?

I can't resist answering this query.  In 1989 the World Congress on Coloured
Sheep was held in Eugene, OR.  A woman from New Zealand entered an evening
gown made from handmade black felt in a garment contest.  The felt was very
thin as well as uniform in thickness, and without a fuzzy surface.  The dress
was a floor length backless model with a triangular bodice - if you get the
picture. It also had a short jacket that disguised the backless aspect.  The
maker of the garment didn't attend the Congress, so my wife (who, I can get
away with mentioning 'cause she isn't looking at this message as I type it, is
a knockout) was asked to model the dress.  When she turned on the runway at
the fashion show with her back toward the audience, and let the jacket fall
off onto one hand, there was an audible gasp as everyone in the place inhaled
- I think the barometric pressure dropped substantially <g>.  What I'm saying
is that the dress was simply gorgeous.  My wife and one other model with an
equally interesting garment were kept busy posing for photos for about a half
hour after the fashion show. So.o.o.o.o, that's what one can do with felt.
How on earth the woman was able to make such a huge piece or pieces of uniform
felt is beyond understanding. I can only imagine that she spread the wool out
on a large floor and walked over it or used a lawn roller or something of that
sort.

Ron Parker
ron.parker%uttsbbs%boo@pacbell.com
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From: Holly.Doyne@f172.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Holly Doyne)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: felting
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 06:40:29 -0500

In a msg on <Dec 23 07:48>, Ron Parker of 1:109/401 writes:

 RP> Keywords: felting,fulling board

 RP> -> Does anyone know where I can get a fulling board for felting?

 RP> Some people use and old-fashioned wash board, still to be found 
 RP> at some hardware stores.

another handy item is a large bread tray ( or other flat surface that will
prevent water from going all over the place)

or screennetting (not metal) - that you can rub on top of, then roll up, fasten
with rubber bands and throw in the washing machine.
From: ron.parker@uttsbbs.uucp (Ron Parker) 
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Re: Italian silk
Date: 27 Dec 92 15:54:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: ron.parker@uttsbbs.uucp (Ron Parker) 


On 16 Dec 92 17:19:43 GMT, martini@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (ok) wrote:

-> does anyone know of a mail-oriented source for plain, white, thin silk?  how
-> much would a minimum order need to be?

Check the ads in Fiberarts magazine, for instance, Rupert & Gibbons..

-> and what is italian silk?  a set of fancy colors?  weave?  pattern?

Just silk spun and woven in Italy.  Italy exports very nice silks.

Nancy Rose via Fibernet

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From: aclin@blackjack.dt.navy.mil (Charissa S. Aclin)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: FOR SALE: Singer Knitting Machine
Keywords: knitting machine, Singer
Date: 21 Dec 92 12:06:19 GMT
Distribution: na

This is being posted for someone who does not have access to the
net, so please contact her at the phone number listed>

For Sale: Singer Knitting Machine Memo Matic/360K with stand,
20 pattern cards, garter bar, manuals, and knit patterns. Used
twice. Asking $500, but will negotiate price. Contact Anne @
215/285-6248.
From: ral3@quads.uchicago.edu (sheila kae ralston)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: knitting mailing list
Date: 2 Jan 93 21:40:29 GMT
Reply-To: ral3@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago


	I'd like to start a mailing list for knitting, but before I
begin setting it up I'd like to guage the level of interest out there
in order to determine the best structure to use (there are a couple of
different ways of setting these things up). 

	Also, I'd like to see what people want in terms of defining
the mailing list.  Should hand and machine knitting be included in the
same list, or should they be on separate mailing lists?  Should
spinning be included as a topic, since a lot of knitters like to spin
their own yarn?  (Not that I would stop you from discussing homespun
:-) -- this is more a matter of how to describe the mailing list to
people who might want to subscribe).

	If you would be interested in subscribing to a knitting
mailing list, please email me your address, and opinions (if any), on
the above questions, and any suggestions you might have about the
list. 

	It will probably take several weeks to get this thing started
up.  I will post again to this newsgroup when it's ready to go.

				Thanks,
				Sheila Ralston
				ral3@midway.uchicago.edu

-- 
Sheila Ralston
ral3@midway.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
From: knighton@world.std.com (Gwen Knighton)
Subject: Xstitch, Metallic Thread, Celtic patterns
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 07:30:42 GMT


From: Holly.Doyne@f172.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Holly Doyne)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Washing hanks of wool
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 09:40:27 -0500

In a msg on <Dec 24 13:53>, Maryanne Posenau of 1:109/401 writes:

 MP> Pre-shrunk yarn seems to be a sensible thought, so it makes me 
 MP> wonder why we don't do it.  We pre-shrink fabrics before 
 MP> sewing, what makes yarn different?  The yardage would no 
 MP> longer be accurate, but if the designer had presumably done 
 MP> the same thing (i.e., "requires xxx yards of yarn blah 
 MP> (yardage before pre-shrinking)"), then it ought to work out.  
 MP> There's variability in the amount of yarn required anyway, 
 MP> what's a little more uncertainty? :-) Ideas?  Answers?  More 
 MP> questions?

Normally, I knit a swatch - then finish it to see what will happen - if there is
major shrinkage - I prewash the yarn.

I always wash my hanspun and block it prior to knitting.

The only difficulty that I see is that you need a skeiner or niddy-noddy if the
yarn does not come in hanks - then have to wash, block, dry and then ball before
using - which is fairly time consuming. (ok by me, but everyone doesn't like to
spend the time)

Anything that contains mohair needs to be handled very carefully - mohair LOVES
to felt.

              - Holly 
From: Lola.Lee@p872.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Lola Lee)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: source of walnut crochet hooks
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:36:05 -0500

  
  ah> So-o-o, does anyone know where I can obtain these hooks?  It seems to
  ah> me that I have seen them advertised somewhere in the recent past, but
  ah> I can't seem to find any ads.  The same company makes knitting
  ah> needles.  Thanks a lot.  It is neat having people available to ask
  ah> these questions!!!
 

You can order Brittany walnut crochet hooks from Patternworks, 1-800-438-5464. 
I believe they have sizes D to M and #7 for only $3 each.
From: chamberl@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Anne Chamberlain)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Re: Removing stain in old quilts
Date: 23 Dec 92 13:41:03 GMT
Reply-To: chamberl@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Anne Chamberlain)
Followup-To: ajones@charlie.usd.edu
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

The only way I know to get rust out of something, is to leave it in
strong sunshine with lemon juice and salt on it.  Every once in a while
you put on a little more lemon juice and a little more salt.  Eventually
the rust comes out.  This might not be good for an old fabric though
that is already weak.

Good luck.
Anne
From: ron.parker@uttsbbs.uucp (Ron Parker) 
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Removing stain in old qui
Date: 23 Dec 92 14:31:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: ron.parker@uttsbbs.uucp (Ron Parker) 

 Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
 Subject: Removing stain in old quilts
 On Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:15:04 GMT ajones@charlie.usd.edu wrote:

 A . My wife and I collect and "restore" old quilts. Some of these have very
 A . nasty "rust" stains of one kind or another. Are there any methods,
 A . recipes, or techniques for removing these without destoying or altering
 A . fabric and color? Please respond directly to my Internet address. Thank
 A . you.

There is a commercial product called Iron Out that contains sodium
hydrosulfite and sodium bisulfite.  You can get it at hardware stores and
plumbing shops.  It is very effective at removing rust.  I have used it to
remove rust stains on cotton fabric with no apparant ill effects.  However,
you should be careful to use it on a sample to be sure.  Also, wait a few days
to see if the fabric is damaged as some damage takes a while to appear.
Oxalic acid will also dissolve rust stains, but it may bleach the colors too
or otherwise mess things up.   Good luck.

BTW, your message (article) was one long line with no carriage returns.  That
really louses up DOS off line mail readers.  Can i talk you into using the
Retunr or Enter key as you would with (ugh) a typewriter.  Thanx.  This isn't
your fault, it's just that Unix gives only line feeds and no carriage returns
unless you do them manually.

Ron Parker
ron.parker%uttsbbs%boo@pacbell.com
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Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
From: jill@cray.com (Jill McAllister)
Subject: knitting newsgroups?
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 31 Dec 92 16:00:55 CST

Does anyone know if there is a newsgroup or a listserv group for knitting?
Please email me directly (jill@cray.com) as I don't have much time lately 
for reading this group.  

Thanks,
Jill