From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: Re: Muslims converting to other religions in England!
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:35:02 GMT

u1754@sparc7.cs.uiuc.edu (student) writes:
: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
: >If you are a  Malaysian, You should know you the Malaysian constitution which
: >defines a Malay as a muslim with "Malay culture". I do not think there is 
: >any mention of religion.

Sorry for the confusion. I meant to say 
"any mention of race".
: 
: In other words, there *is* mention of religion -- a Malay is only a
: Malay if he or she is also a Muslim, according to the constitution.
: 
: IMO, the unequal treatment of citizens, Muslim or not, is wrong. (Note:
: it isn't really a Muslim vs. non-Muslim issue -- since non-Malay
: Muslims are similarly downtrodden.)
: 
: Remember when Malaysia blacklisted South Africa for Apartheid? What
: hypocracy! (Ah, but the S.Africans had discriminated against *Malay*

Are you saying that the chinese and indians are as discrimiated as the Blacks
in South Africa? I've never met any situation where complete discrimation is
absent, even in USA? In fact it is worse for the chinese in USA than in
Malaysia, not only they have to pay higher taxes, they also have to tolerate
blatant discrimination in jobs in both government and private sectors.
	Sometimes even unemployed are discriminated because of his color,
by both blacks and whites alike.

: people! Ooo, we can't have *that*, now, can we?)
: 
: It was wrong for non-Malay businessmen to discriminate against Malays.
: It is just as wrong for the Malay-controlled government to discriminate
: against Indians and other non-Malays.
The non-Malay businessmen had blatantly and openly discriminated against other
races.
	Have you proven that the Malaysian government had done that? No. You
have not even quoted all the arguments that I had put forward. Do you know
what they are? I do not even bother to find out. You just ignore it. At least
you comment on them so that people can judge wheter they are right or not.
	I am fed up with racist people like you, who only think that they are
right, nobody else is right, even when "clear evidence" is shown to"you".
Have you given any evidence, none. Only lies.
	Tell me, any fact other than accusation in your current post.

I do not bother to present facts because you ignore them. Do not even read 
them. What is the point of talking to you?

The Malays  have complete political and military power in Malaysia.
However they have not executed it for "economic power" or even ethnic cleansing,
against stubborn people like you, who unfortunately is the majority.

If people like you were to be given the absolute power, I'm sure you have
no restrain to use it to the extent of "ethnic cleansing".

The minorities do not count, because they have listened to the "stubbord"
majority. Remember that the atrocities by Nazis, Bosnian Serbs(?) and Japanese
soldiers are the not supported by the whole population, but all are responsible
for letting it happen.


--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
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