HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ian@unipalm.co.uk (Ian Phillipps)
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
Subject: Re: Problem with 'usa' distribution
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:19:54 GMT
Organization: Unipalm Ltd., 216 Cambridge Science Park, Cambridge CB4 4WA, UK

pfritsch@skid.ps.uci.edu (Paul Fritschle) writes:

>I posted an article to alt.fan.pratchett last night, with the
>distribution 'usa'. Got email this morning from someone in the UK
>letting me know that Distribution: usa didn't seem to work properly.
>Should it work? Or is that a non-existent distribution?

It should, but it doesn't.  There are *lots* of postings restricted to
"usa" without any particular reason, so many news admins outside the USA
accept them (and "na").

Why didn't you want us to see your article?

I've seen a posting from Turkey, in Turkish (I think) with a "usa"
distribution on it.

Ian
-- 
Ian Phillipps, Unipalm Ltd, 216 Science Park,		Phone +44 223 420002
Milton Road, Cambridge, CB4 4WA, England.		Phax  +44 223 426868
PIPEX is a division of Unipalm Ltd. - phone 0223 424616.
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
From: mathieu@SunOS.stpaul.ncr.com (Tom Mathieu [7143])
Subject: How does wrong address get in "From" field?
Organization: NCR NPD Division
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:09:38 GMT

Does anybody know how to make rn put the correct information in the
"From" portion of the header?

When I post an article, something puts the wrong address in the From
line.  The only way around this is to manually put my address in the
Sender line when I compose my article.  (Done using 'f' followup)

If I use Pnews, it works without editing the Sender line/From line.

My guess is that some environmental variable is getting fed the
wrong information... I just don't know what variable and how to fix
it.

HELP!

Thanks

Tom Mathieu
novice



Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
From: ta2321s@dunix.drake.edu (Terry Asher alias -       The Penguin)
Subject: accounting daemon
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:05:20 GMT

	I am the system administrator and I was wondering if there was a way
from Unix to run a daemon from rc.local that will keep a record of both the
number of times that Usenet is accessed and which newsgroups are being
accessed.  Our Unix is a DEC 5000 Workstation which is connected to our
VAX 4600 mainframe.  Our VAX runs ANU-News so the daemon would have to catch
anybody accessing Usenet through ANU-News as well as the normal way through
trn.  Sa might be what I need, but how do I massage it to get just these
vital statistics.
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister)
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
Subject: Re: sendsys from Postmaster@phantom.com
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 00:05:54 +1300
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)

fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:

> I just spotted this in control [hand-wrapped path]:
> 
> I posted a cancel for it, to attempt to stem the spread.

If it works, he'll never do it again.....

--
                                                            => Dogbowl <=


Newsgroups: news.admin.misc,news.future
From: news@geovision.gvc.com (News Administrator)
Subject: Re: FAQ's and how to get people to read them (Our answer)
Reply-To: pt@compass.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:10:12 GMT

[Note the slightly truncated newsgroups line]
stefan@stefan.spn.com writes:

>I believe that you CAN solve the problem by information. A new user should 
>be given an account only after an explanation of how usenet works. Every 
>sysadmin should have a printed version of the faqs of the groups on 
>his machine and give it to people upon request. (They must know of this, 
>of course.)

Well, partly as a result of this discussion, I took the most important posts
from news.answers (IMHO)

        primer          ``A Primer on How to Work With the USENET Community''
        posting_rules   ``Rules of Conduct on USENET''
        writing_style   ``USENET Writing Style''
        what_is         ``What Is USENET''

And put them in a globally accessible area.  I then put a message in the trn
newsnews file and in the nn motd, pointing out these postings, and telling
new users of news that they should ask me any questions they had, and
pointing out news.announce.newusers, news.answers, news.newusers.questions
as good places to start reading.

Hopefully, seeing this mini-tutorial on the net the first time they read
news will help.

I also have the FAQs from several groups on-line that I let people know
about.  Due to personal bias, the FAQs I keep online are comp.lang.c,
comp.windows.x, and a couple of related ones.

-- 
The Anonymous News Administrator (if you need to know, you already know)
I just administer the news, I don't make or state policy.
Xref: sparky news.admin.misc:1205 comp.mail.misc:4515 news.answers:5453 comp.answers:15
From: cwatters@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Coyt D Watters)
Subject: Forgery
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:39:01 GMT

Someone is forging posts.

From: J Lee Jaap <jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov>
To: Coyt D Watters <cwatters@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>

I now see that the Message-ID is not related at all to the others.
But this may be because you're forcing From, or it's evidence.
I notice that there are cancels in your name, which may or may not
be yours, and may have been used for a template.  I suggest you
post to news.admin.misc (?) and ask for other help for these messages.

[There were several cancels which I did send, I was having some posting 
 problems (which are now resolved) and was trying to cancel the multiple
 copies of one post.]

[The following is the forgery.]
From: cwatters@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Coyt D Watters)
Newsgroups: news.answers
Subject: cancel <1993Jan22.221644.2709@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:55:05 GMT
Control: newgroup alt.crackers moderated
Organization: The Ohio State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: a-kind-of-magic.mit.edu

<1993Jan22.221644.2709@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> was cancelled from within trn.

[The following is a legit message, I was cancelling on both r.g.f.announce and
 news.answers]
From: cwatters@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Coyt D Watters)
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.announce,news.answers
Subject: cmsg cancel <1993Jan22.222551.2905@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Control: cancel <1993Jan22.222551.2905@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:51:06 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: a-kind-of-magic.mit.edu
Apparently-To: news-answers@cis.ohio-state.edu

<1993Jan22.222551.2905@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> was cancelled from within trn.

Other cancels with the same remaining info have IDs as follow:

Good luck tracking down the perp.
-- 
J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@LaRC.NASA.Gov> +1 804/864-2148
    employed by, not speaking for, AS&M Inc, at
         NASA LaRC, Hampton VA 23681-0001


Anyone out there able to help me with this?  Or is it something I have to 
learn to live with?

-Coyt
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
Subject: Re: fascist inews refuses short replies- Solution?
From: mark@wehi.edu.au (Mark Watson)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 06:13:21 GMT
 93Jan18182203@ra.cs.umb.edu> <MCGLK.93Jan19135648@yang.cpac.washington.edu>
Distribution: world
Organization: The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research
NNTP-Posting-Host: wehio.wehi.edu.au

>betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
> Here's two simple examples:
[ boring examples deleted...]

this could have been done without quoting and using a clear, short
subject line on the original articles (non-existant as they were).
The subject line is a very good source of maintaining the context
IF it is used correctly.  I have xrn configured to sort the subject
headers so that I read (or ignore) all related messages in sequence.

>kozlowsk@acs.ucalgary.ca (Don M. Kozlowski)
> From the man pages for rn (my current favorite reader)
>           HIDELINE

Thank you Don, however I use xrn, though I am planning to look at the
'toggle-header' resource definitions for a solution.

>In <MCGLK.93Jan19135648@yang.cpac.washington.edu> Ken McGlothlen writes;
[about automatic responsed to dud posters...]

This can only result in the automatic posting wars of alt.sources
recently where a poster, who made a simple mistake, went nuts and wrote
some code to automatically post to alt.sources all the respectful notes
mailed to him.  Had the alt.sources net-cops been doing it from
automatic processes a very bad loop would have resulted.  So basically
the problem here is not just advising people to do the right thing but
to tell them in such a way that they WANT to do the right thing ;-)
unfortunately (or otherwise) there are too many variations of
personality on the net, so NO single solution is ever acceptable to
all concerned.

(Obligatory Solution (Its in the subject line ;-))

  Perhaps there should be a .inewsrc file that contains
a flag to 'override quote_check' for those that feel in necessary to 
quote a lot (or all) of an article as part of replying.

  The bottom line here is maximizing user configurability since you can
NEVER satify all users.

  It is certainly easier to maintain context by quoting whole or large
portions of articles, but with some effort (as above I hope) some
'summarizing' of the original can acheive the same context flow.

  Now what about a filter that ensures the messages subject line bears
some resemblance to the articles contents.  With the option to turn it
off in the .inewsrc file of course :-)  (just kidding folks, stay cool)

-- 
Mark W. Watson                      | mark@wehi.edu.au
The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute | Ph: +61 3 345 2555
P.O. Royal Melbourne Hospital       | Fax: +61 3 347 0852
Australia    3050                   | include all known disclaimers here
From: liesche@byron.u.washington.edu (Jochen Liesche)
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
Subject: Yes, I'm an idiot:  Help re: getting UUCP feeds, etc...
Date: 25 Jan 1993 08:32:06 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: world
Reply-To: liesche@u.washington.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: byron.u.washington.edu


OK, I'm not sure if this is the correct space for this, but here goes:
I am at the point in configuring my personal unix box where I would like to
sever my umbilicus to an account on a foreign machine.  I would like to get
it configured so that I am able to receive net-mail and news via uucp.  I have
spoken to a gentleman who has run a site under DOS, and he mentioned things 
like getting a us domain for my machine, and finding a machine(his example was
pacbel.com) to do some sort of routing for his address(to avoid mangy bang
paths).  Now, I was wondering what proper phrasing for these requests would
be, and just what would I need to ask for?
Another, possibly unrelated:  Is it possible to get newsgroups from more than 
one site?  This gentleman has given me permission to leech from his news-site,
but it is only ~15 groups, many of which are of no interest to me.  But it's 
local, and free.  For those groups that he does not carry, is it possible to 
config such that I can glean them from another site?  It is unreasonable to
ask him to carry more groups, as he runs at 2400...
and, finally:  Where might I pull a comprehensive file on uucp from a FTP site?

thank you muchly.
From: rein@rein.ut.ee (Rein Kinkar)
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
Subject: news feed wanted--Boston, MA
Date: 22 Jan 1993 15:24:15 -0600
Organization: Tartu University
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Dear Sirs,

My name is Rein Kinkar,
6 Ravila St. EE2400 Tartu Estonia, Internet: rein@rein.ut.ee

I am occupied as the research information manager at the rector's office,
University of Tartu, Estonia and as head of Technology Department at Baltic
Intellectual Property Exchange

I am looking for information/newsgroups to be available via
Internet in following subjects:

*university-industry links
*technology transfer
*intellectual property exchange
*university research management
*patent services

I would be very happy to get any contacts for further
cooperation in my field of activity as well.

I've got a standard IBM XT machine with 20Mb hard disk as a communication
server with Internet and Fidonet (2:490/60) access.

Any kind of help is highly appreciated!

With best hopes
                        yours,
                                Rein Kinkar
 
-- 
Xref: sparky news.admin.misc:1211 news.config:523 news.misc:2193
From: tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli)
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc,news.config,news.misc
Subject: uunet having problems
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:18:38 -0500
Organization: Mentor Graphics -- IC Group
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdl.warren.mentorg.com

I've been told that uunet has a dead disk on the one machine that
accepts new posts.  Therefore, there is a considerable slow-down in the
amount of news being swished around Usenet.  The many, many sites
that only have connections through uunet are virtually disconnected
from netnews and their new posts will wait around until the machine
comes back up.

I'm surprized I haven't seen posts about this already, so I thought I'd
mention it here.

I assume they'll be back and running soon.

Tom

P.S.  Wow, we *just* got a little redundancy on our local end on the
universe.  This must be my lucky month!
-- 
Tom Limoncelli -- tal@warren.mentorg.com (work) -- tal@plts.uucp (play)

Unix is a trademark of, WHATT????
Xref: sparky news.admin.misc:1176 alt.config:8540
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister)
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc,alt.config
Subject: Re: newgroup manawatu.astronomy
Keywords: Ooops!
Date: 20 Jan 93 07:58:15 GMT
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)

An apology to everyone who received this.:

===================

>Path: ....!cc-server4.massey.ac.nz!acmebbs!dogbox!dogbowl
>From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister)
>Newsgroups: control
            ^^^^^^^^^This was supposed to have been manawatu.chat

>Subject: Newgroup manawatu.astronomy
>Message-ID: <g4iLXB3w165w@dogbox.acme.gen.nz>
>Date: Tue, 19 Jan 93 11:29:15 +1300
>Control: newgroup manawatu.astronomy
>Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)
>Approved: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz

====================


--
Alan Brown. (SysAdmin)
dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz                      Palmerston North
Dawghaus BBS -> +64 (6) 357-9245                New Zealand
             "A wet and windy place in the South Pacific"
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
From: kbibb@maui.qualcomm.com (Ken Bibb)
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT USE POLICY
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:11:48 GMT

In <1993Jan23.065255.28542@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> georged@astro.ocis.temple.edu (MR.BREEZE) writes:

>Dear Sirs,

>I would like to address some questions about the use of Internet.

>Our publishing company is a NON PROFIT organization and belongs to 
>Temple University, Philadelphia PA. I would like to know if due to the nature
>of our organizatio(non-profit) we would be able to promote our publications
>in the internet by posting our releases to different newsgroups(according
>to the area of interest always) or by posting part of our sales brochures 
>and/or catalog or even accepting e-mail orders.

If you are going to make postings like this, do it once only, and make
it more informational than sales:  look at the O'Reilly postings that
occasionally are posting: the books are relevant to the newsgroup(s), 
the postings are short (less than 100 lines) and relevant (no
sales-speak).

-- 
Ken Bibb                "And something is cracking, I don't know where
kbibb@qualcomm.com	 Ice on the sidewalk, Brittle branches in the air"
jester@crash.cts.com    	--"Cracking", Suzanne Vega 
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
From: brinck@pd-dom.wl.com (John Brinck)
Subject: Re: Kodak's Official Policy (formerly: Want to adopt)
Followup-To: news.admin.policy
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
	<1993Jan24.203827.24969@rotag.mi.org>
	<1993Jan25.130932.10745@wam.umd.edu>
	<1993Jan25.214821.29561@Happy-Man.com>
	<BRINCK.93Jan26084922@pd-dom.wl.com>
	<EMCGUIRE.93Jan27081539@fuller.intellection.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 13:40:46 GMT


In article <EMCGUIRE.93Jan27081539@fuller.intellection.com> emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire) writes:

>    In article <BRINCK.93Jan26084922@pd-dom.wl.com> brinck@pd-dom.wl.com (John Brinck) writes:

>       In article <1993Jan25.214821.29561@Happy-Man.com> irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe) writes:
>       >   2.  Any use of company property or resources for non-company 
>       >   purposes must be purely personal and not for a side-business, 
>       >   another affiliation (even if charitable or religious), etc.,
>       >    Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com      Happy Man Corp.  206/463-9399 x101
>       >    4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon Island, WA  98070-7399   fax x108
>       >    We publish SOLID VALUE for the intelligent investor.   NextMail OK
>     	     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>       >   Info free; sample $20.  Send POSTAL addrs: Solid-Value@Happy-Man.com
> 	    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>       Pardon me while I laugh.

>    I don't understand what you find funny.  Do you consider what you
>    marked to be a use of TI company resources for non-company purposes?
>    Maybe you thought Irving was a TI employee or was using a TI computer.
>    Not so as far as I can tell from his headers and signature.  Or what
>    did I miss here, John?

Mr. Wolfe first espouses a personal-use-only-not-for-a-side-business
policy to be applied to Kodak employees' use of company resources,
and then includes an advertisement for a newsletter he *sells* in
his signature.  

You tell me: is this a violation of the "acceptable use" policies of
the various networks this message traversed?

I'm not trying to reopen the "advertising on the net" flame war.  You
asked me what I found funny, and so I answered the question.  That's all.
From: dan@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu (Daniel Zabetakis)
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT USE POLICY
Date: 23 Jan 93 19:11:35 GMT
Organization: Columbia University, Dept. of Biological Sciences.

In article <1993Jan23.065255.28542@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> georged@astro.ocis.temple.edu (MR.BREEZE) writes:
>Dear Sirs,
   
    You're going to get flamed for that.
>
>
>Our publishing company is a NON PROFIT organization and belongs to 
>Temple University, Philadelphia PA. I would like to know if due to the nature
>of our organizatio(non-profit) we would be able to promote our publications
>in the internet by posting our releases to different newsgroups(according
>to the area of interest always) or by posting part of our sales brochures 
>and/or catalog or even accepting e-mail orders.
>
   I would say NO. Most people who read groups want to read discusions.
I wouldn't want to see ads for every university press and other non-profit
organizations in  the groups I read.
   There would be nothing wrong if you actually _read_ the groups and
commented when a book you publish might be useful.
   Look at the way Silicon Graphics deals with comp.sys.sgi.*  They don't
officially use the groups, but they certainly have enough people read
them.

DanZ

-- 
This article is for entertainment purposes only. Any facts, opinions,
narratives or ideas contained herein are not necessarily true, and do
not necessarily represent the views of any particular person.  
Xref: sparky news.admin.policy:1147 news.groups:26281
From: bkottmann@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil (Brett Kottmann)
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy,news.groups
Subject: Re: misc.activism.progressive.NOT
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:40:36 EST
Organization: Logicon Technical Services, Inc.

In article <Jym.19Jan1993.1918@naughty-peahen>, jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:
...
> =o= I've never seen a newsgroup moderated perfectly.  Like any
> moderator, Rich Winkel is entitled to the occasional mistake.
> I don't see anyone complaining about it except some Maoist
> zealots and the folks who, by hook or by crook, tried to prevent
> the group from being created in the first place.

	On the contrary, a lot of people expressed dismay that Harel was
allowed to advertise the apparent status of the vote to an email list.

	Hook or crook indeed.

> =o= I've seen no serious objections to the newsgroups or its
> moderation from the community it's intended to serve (i.e.
> "progressive" activists).

	As long as Harel gets to decide who is "progressive" of course :).

>  Indeed, it's become one of the top
> ten most popular "conferences" at IGC, which is the world's
> largest collection of on-line "progressive" activists.
>     <_Jym_>

	And one of the top ten most costly newsgroups here on Usenet.

	But then again Rush Limbaugh has the most popular book in the US for 17
weeks now :).

Brett
"The opinions and views expressed here are strictly my own and do not 
necessarily reflect the official position of either the U.S. Air Force 
or its contractors."
From: georged@astro.ocis.temple.edu (MR.BREEZE)
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
Subject: QUESTION ABOUT USE POLICY
Date: 23 Jan 93 06:52:55 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Dear Sirs,

I would like to address some questions about the use of Internet.

Our publishing company is a NON PROFIT organization and belongs to 
Temple University, Philadelphia PA. I would like to know if due to the nature
of our organizatio(non-profit) we would be able to promote our publications
in the internet by posting our releases to different newsgroups(according
to the area of interest always) or by posting part of our sales brochures 
and/or catalog or even accepting e-mail orders.

The Computer Services Dept of the University has already accepted and granted
us with an account under the name of our company.

Your prompt answer would be greatly appreciated.


						Sincerely
						George D. Dimitoglou
						Systems Administrator
						Temple University Press
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy,alt.dreams,austin.general,boulder.general,ca.general,co.general,comp.misc,houston.general,in.general,kw.general,la.general,mi.misc,milw.general,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.invest,misc.misc,mscs.general,nashville.general,ncsc.general,ne.general,nj.general,ny.general,nyc.general,nyu.general,oh.general,or.general,osu.general,rec.gambling,uiuc.general,us.misc,usc.general,ut.general,uw.general,uwisc.general,uwisc.misc,va.general,wi.general,wu.cs.general,seattle.general
From: molenda@i9.msi.umn.edu (Jason Molenda)
Subject: Re: FAST CASH!!!
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 21:57:27 GMT
Path: umn.edu!news
  From:  (anonymous)
  Subject: FAST CASH!!!
  Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
  Nntp-Posting-Host: dialup-slip-1-9.gw.umn.edu
  Organization: University of Minnesota
  Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:57:22 GMT

This person has been identified, Usenet access for the individual has
been revoked and we are looking into possible academic acceptable usage
policies that may have been violated.

I sincerely hope that no one was tricked by this message.  Please
disregard it.
----
Jason Molenda, University of Minnesota, Supercomputer Inst., Technical Support
SGI Iris Admin        molenda@jason.msi.umn.edu       DoD #1867     '77 CB750F
-- 
Jason Molenda, University of Minnesota, Supercomputer Inst., Technical Support
SGI Iris Admin        molenda@jason.msi.umn.edu       DoD #1867     '77 CB750F