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From: kaleb@thyme.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Kaleb Keithley)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Xaw3d deja vu
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:53:30 GMT
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Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 09:47:08 -0500
Message-Id: <9211131447.AA24656@expo.lcs.mit.edu>

It seems that I've had a few (but only a few :-)) spare moments on my 
hands lately...

I know it's only been a week since I announced 0.3, but... I did some 
"conceptual" cleanup to the code in 0.3; thus creating 0.4, *AND* brought 
the R4 version into "sync" with the R5 version, so I think it warrants
another announcement.

Now the R4 version has all the bug fixes, and all the added features of 
the R5 version.  

Both versions compile cleanly on Sun SPARC, SunOS 4.1.1, w/ SunOS bundled
compiler.  Both have been tested with all the M.I.T. client applications 
distributed on the respective release tapes.

All ongoing work is done on the R5 version.  Feel free to report bugs on,
or suggest improvements to, either version, however I probably won't release
another R4 version -- switch to R5!

There are now patch files between all R5 versions.

The files are on export.lcs.mit.edu (18.24.0.12), and they are:

    ~ftp/contrib/Xaw3d/R4/Xaw3d.R4.tar.Z, 

and:

    ~ftp/contrib/Xaw3d/R5/Xaw3d-0.4.tar.Z

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From: wladimir@kik-11.dfki.uni-sb.de (Wladimir Minenko)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Help: I want "The X Journal" !
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:13:06 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: German Research Center for Artificial Intelligence Inc.

Date: 7 Nov 92 09:23:13 GMT
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Hi, X-world

 I'd like to subscribe "The X Journal" or to buy some of the old issues.

 Can somebody tell my how I can do it from Europe (or better "in Europe") ?

 Thanks in advance !

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From: smr@pki-nbg.philips.de (Stephen Riehm)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: XTerm control sequence wanted, not answered in FAQ
Date: 4 Nov 92 20:47:00 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: 29 Oct 92 12:57:39 GMT
Message-Id: <smr.720363459@hitkw14>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

All I want for christmas is my two front teeth, oops, wrong request,
what I really want is the control sequences for the ti and te terminfo
(termcap) entries. (for using an alternate screen while using full
screen commands, and swapping back again for command line.)

I looked in the FAQ and found the following references, but I can't
find any of them on our system
	ctlseqs.ms in the R5 sources		(we only have R4)
	mit/clients/xterm/ctlseq2.txt in R4	(the mit directory
						 has been emptied)
	Volume 3 (User's Guide) of the R4 flavor of the O'Reilly
	    X Window System series		(don't have it)
	In a pinch, a VT100 manual will do.	(again, nowhere to be found)

Also in the manpage there is a reference to:
	Xterm Control Sequences document ... available in the sources.
	    (WHERE? WHAT FILE?)

In fact I don't really care where the "Xterm Control Sequences"
document is, since we don't have the sources on line anyway. All I want is
the two character sequences. PLEASE.

Many thanx in advance

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From: gaitat@gaitat.kgn.ibm.com (Saki)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: No border X window
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:09:47 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: IBM Kingston NY

Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 16:33:10 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov05.163310.30462@watson.ibm.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I would like to create an X-Window with no border or title
but I dont want the window manager to do it.  The application
should have the control.  When I use the override_redirect
attribute when my window is mapped, it doesnt change to the 
correct colormap, and when I press a mouse button, I get a
root window popup menu.  Any suggestions/solutions?

Thanks in advance

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From: buzz@bear.com (Buzz Moschetti)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Using X over a modem???
Date: 7 Nov 92 12:47:04 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST

Date: 2 Nov 92 23:08:26 GMT
Message-Id: <BUZZ.92Nov2180826@lion.bear.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sources.wanted,comp.windows.x

In article <1992Nov2.151430.26229@athena.mit.edu> raek@athena.mit.edu (Robyn A E Kozierok) writes:
>> I am wondering if it is possible to have a machine that you are logged into
>> over a modem open XWindows on your local machine if you are running X on the
>> local machine.
Yes.

>> What would you set the DISPLAY environment variable to to
>> indicate this machine?
Depends on if the connection is a true net extension or a serial line
proxy.  In the former, your local machine is running X and has an address
(textname or raw IP) known to the remote, in which case you simply set
DISPLAY=your_address.  This setup usually exists only for high speed 
environments like 56Kb dedicated lines.  The latter is more typical
of the 9.6Kb V.32 SLIP/PPP/XRemote installations; in this case, your
machine is *not* known to the remote machine.  Instead, the remote machine
believes it is running *two* X servers -- a "real" one that is
connected to its primary display (e.g. host:0.0) and a proxy that is 
connected to a serial line (e.g. host:1.0).  Here is a simple diagram:

"Regular" Net X:

Home machine       56 Kb               Remote machine
  "homer"      Ether extension            "remote"
+-----------+        |              +-------------------+
| X Server  |------- |--------------|      X client     |
+-----------+        |              | DISPLAY=homer:0.0 |
                                    +-------------------+


"Proxy" Net X:


                              		
Home machine       9.6Kb              Remote machine 
  "homer"           V.32                 "remote"
+------------+        |      +---------+    +--------------------+
| Serial-to-X|------- |------|  Proxy  |----|      X client      |
|   Custom   |        |      | X Server|    | DISPLAY=remote:1.0 |
|  Software  |               +---------+    +--------------------+
+------------+


>> Does "low-bandwidth" X do what I want?
Depends on the app.  If you want to fire up a few xterms or couple of apps
that use only a few fonts, no problem.  If you want to send lots of
bitmaps, the performance will be miserable compared to a environment where
the bits move at Ether speed (or faster).

>> Has anyone tried this with reasonable results?
I've used an NCD16 Xterm at home for two years.  The performance is more
than reasonable for the "limited" amount of X-ish things I do.

>> How fast a modem is a minimum for reasonable behavior?
9.6Kb V.32 full duplex.  Do *not* use Telebits running in PEP mode at 19.2
Kb or any other protocol that is not true full duplex or performance will
be absolutely horrible.
From: envbvs@epb9.lbl.gov (Brian V. Smith)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Comp.sources.x -- a black hole??
Date: 8 Nov 92 22:09:02 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley

Date: 8 Nov 92 19:11:48 GMT
Message-Id: <27308@dog.ee.lbl.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <BUZZ.92Oct29090627@lion.bear.com> buzz@bear.com (Buzz Moschetti) writes:
>In article <1992Oct28.155857.956@eplrx7.es.duPont.com> cristy@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Cristy) writes:
>   I posted to comp.sources.x about a month ago and it still has not shown up.
>   Can someone tell me the status of that newsgroup.  Is the moderator
>   on vacation?  Thanks in advance.
>
>The moderator of comp.sources.x is:
>
>David C. Martin			dcmartin@msi.com
>Moderator, comp.sources.x	408/522-9236
>
>I posted something about 3 months ago and it hasn't shown up either.  In
>fact, comp.sources.x was empty for months; just today something called
>ws(???) showed up.

I tried to send dcmartin@msi.com email about an x program and it bounced back 
with unknown host.  

I then sent the message to comp-sources-x@uunet.uu.net, the address that should
work for submitting to comp.sources.x.
I haven't received a reply from him yet, but I'll post again if I hear from him.

Brian V. Smith    (bvsmith@lbl.gov)
Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
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From: ldawes@uahcs2.cs.uah.edu (Lisa Dawes)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Unsubscribe
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:20:50 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 08:10:45 CST
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Please unsubcribe my account from the xpert mail server:

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From: uad1077@dircon.co.uk (Ian Kemmish)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X Under Windows NT
Date: 8 Nov 92 12:05:40 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1992 19:25:48 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov03.192548.23246@dircon.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.dec,comp.windows.news

peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva) writes:

>In article <1992Oct27.165303.22464@news.dfrf.nasa.gov> todd@fred.dfrf.nasa.gov (Todd Vernon) writes:
>> Wow, I didn't know Amigas were such great machines.   Maybe we should

What a way to go out!  A thread in comp.windows.news that manages to
discuss every window system *except* NeWS.  Maybe we should leave it
there.....

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From: iversen@dsfys1.fi.uib.no (Per Steinar Iversen)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Motif emulation of Xaw?
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:19:23 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Department of Physics, University of Bergen, Norway

Date: 13 Nov 92 07:21:26 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov13.072126.2979@alf.uib.no>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.x



Many of the public domain program posted on the net use the Xaw libraries. These
create problems in a Motif environment, applications just dont look right, or
even worse (VMS+DECwindows/Motif), the Xaw libraries are not available.
Have anyone ever created an Xaw emulation, in the sense that programs could be
compiled as if Xaw existed but link against Motif only?

-psi

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From: star7287@mstr.hgc.edu (michael starkie)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: 2-D Animation
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:30:46 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 14:50:09 -0500
Message-Id: <9211051950.AA22895@mstr.hgc.edu>

	Hello,
	
	I have a program that models point-mass particles in a flow of fluid.
	The model consists of 100 particles that react to gravity as the fluid 
	flows over time.

	The particles are drawn at each sequence frame individually.  A for-loop
	is used to call XDrawArc for each particle at each frame in the 
        sequence.

	In addition, special particles are filled in black and other special
	particles have tails that trace their particle through each frame
        sequence.

	Filling and tailing is done an a particle-by-particle basis using 
	XFillArc and XDrawString respectively at each frame of the animation.

	I discovered that Xlib contains calls that will draw a series of lines,
 	fill a number of arcs, and draw a number of arcs with one call
  	(XFillArc(s), XDrawLine s(s), XDrawArc(s)).

	I assumed this would be faster, so at the beginnig of each frame I
        allocate the proper array of x-structure (XArc, XLine, etc.), fill the
        array with the coordinates of each particle and pass the array to the
        respective XCall (XFillArcs, etc.). The X primitive then goes about
        drawing a series of arcs or lines as one event (I assume).

	Immediately following the call I deallocate the memory and move one.

	Question1:  Why didn't this speed up the animation and, in fact, slow 
	things down a great deal?

	Question2:  Is there a better way to implement this (I've heard the term 
	imaging used but don't know what to look for in the Xlib Programming Manual)?

	Please respond to star7287@hgc.edu



	Thank you, live long and prosper......
From: rickert@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X Under Windows NT
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:50:03 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena

Date: 7 Nov 1992 22:07:55 GMT
Message-Id: <1dhenrINNbvc@gap.caltech.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.sgi

In <1992Nov7.102526.19448@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse) writes:

>In article <rtonoi0@zola.esd.sgi.com>, msc@ramoth.esd.sgi.com (Mark Callow) writes:
>> In article <1992Oct28.170229.29369@news.dfrf.nasa.gov>, todd@fred.dfrf.nasa.gov writes:

>>> At NASA we run our realtime flight simulator on an SGI doing the
>>> simulation models in one CPU and out the window visuals in another.
>>> The entire frame runs in under 1ms, I think you have experience with
>>> the wrong machine running X.
>> This example proves nothing.  The flight simulator is not an X
>> program.

>If it's a modern release of Irix, everything that draws on the display
>is an X program.  Or at least such is my understanding of their
>implementation; since I am not privy to full details, I could well be
>wrong.  Perhaps some SGI person will be kind enough to give us the full
>truth of the matter.

Irix 4.0.x uses X as its native windowing model...and as such,
the X server knows about all windows.
However, GL drawing calls dont generally go through the X server,
but go directly to the hardware. While every program, even
ones that use only the GL is an X program in the sense that
they do talk to the X server to some extent.
Please note that the person who said that the simulator is 
not an X program _is_ a SGI person...:)...he does know what
he is talking about.
Keith
From: desktop@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Jon Ericson)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Test
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:29:25 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Message-Id: <9211131506.AA10001@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 7:06:17 PST
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0]

test (please ignore)
From: mike@vort.cuc.ab.ca (Mike Nemeth)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: no job control under an xterm?
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:18:04 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 01:20:47 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov06.012047.26520@vort.cuc.ab.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

system: ISC 3.2.2.1, X11R5 patchlevel 17, X386 1.2

starting up tcsh in an xterm yields

Warning: no access to tty (Invalid argument).
Thus no job control in this shell.
> 

whereas starting up csh in an xterm yields

Warning: no access to tty; thus no job control in this shell...
% 

this didn't use to happen, but i don't know what i changed, if
anything. can anybody offer any clues?

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From: trw@unixland.natick.ma.us (Tim Weil)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X11R4<1.1> linking problems
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:51:30 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848

Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 22:48:34 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov4.224834.18037@unixland.natick.ma.us>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I'm trying to port an HP version of Xengine from HP 9000/7xx platform
to my humble ESIX 5.3.2D X11R4<1.1> and have encountered the following
link error -
 
     __divsi3       unresolved external in libX11.a
 
Can someone straighten me out on which libraries to include.  So far, I
am using
               -lX11 0lnet -lpt -lnsl_s
 
because ESIX 5.3.2D is kind of spread out all over the place.  Thanks.

Timothy.Weil@dialcom.tymnet.com
From: frank@smartstar.com
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: need to capture/replay X-sessions for demos
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:29:36 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: SmartStar Corporation / Signal Technology

Date: 11 Nov 92 23:50:46 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov11.155046.1@smartstar.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Hi,

I;m looking for a piece of software that will allow me to capture and
replay X-windows sessions for demos. Anyone who has any information
please send mail to:

steve@smartstar.com

thanks in advance..
From: rkod5@fel.tno.nl (R. Koolma)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: question
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:09:35 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory

Date: 11 Nov 92 13:29:00 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov11.132900.9279@fel.tno.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Hello, I am faced with the following problem :

  We have a simulation program. Now we want to draw the objects in a window.
  Sofar no problem, use a canvas. But now we want to be able to pick an 
  object with the mouse and get information on a different screen.
  The problem is that I don't want to use low level routines to get
  the (x,y) position of the object and then check in a list if there is an
  object close enough to this position.
  The best thing would be something you can tell to move to some position and
  which generates an event when clicked on. This event should contain all the
  information about the simulation object (pointer).

At this moment I don't have the experience to create something like this. Some
help would be nice.

Please send E-Mail, I read it more often.

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From: leonp@cs.kun.nl (Leon Pillich)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Periodic Alarm Events in X-Windows
Date: 13 Nov 92 10:31:21 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands

Date: 12 Nov 92 21:12:07 GMT
Message-Id: <BxMG88.LvA@sci.kun.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I did something similar, though I don't know
if it's a clean way. It sure looks elegant.

First: set up an alarm signal handler
Second: create your own client event with a unique identifier for the
timer and send it with XSendEvent. XFlush after the XSendEvent.

This is shortly how I did it,
if you wanna see some code, send me some email and I will
send you some simple code implementing this scheme.

BTW: I also tried implementing such a thing with Xt timer callbacks,
but that didn't work well. Some problems: it cannot be used when you are only
using Xlib and it doesn't fit in weel with the normal event lopp thing
of handling X events.


Leon Pillich
University of Nijmegen, Holland
email: leonp@cs.kun.nl
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From: huber@nibelung.Worms.Fh-Rpl.DE (frank )
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Help - Porting XView to HPUX
Date: 9 Nov 92 10:07:00 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Fachhochschule-Rheinland-Pfalz

Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1992 13:05:29 GMT
Message-Id: <Nov03.130529.139466@nibelung.Worms.Fh-Rpl.DE>
Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview,comp.windows.x

Did anyone successfully port the XView toolkit on a HP 9000/700.
Any hints, suggestions, tips, tricks etc. welcome.

Frank Huber (huber@Worms.Fh-Rpl.DE)
From: dwex@mtgzfs3.att.com (David E Wexelblat)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: CFV: comp.windows.x.i386unix
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:37:10 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: AT&T

Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1992 23:53:02 GMT
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Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.x,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.linux,comp.os.mach,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.sys5.r3,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit

This is a Call for Votes for the creation of the new newsgroup, 
comp.windows.x.i386unix.  The charter for this newsgroup is included
below.  Here are the details:

	Newsgroup Name: 	comp.windows.x.i386unix
	Moderated Status: 	Unmoderated
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Votes must clearly indicate a "Yes" or a "No" vote.  Votes should not
include comments or questions.  Comments or questions about the
newsgroup should be posted to news.groups.  Votes MUST be mailed to
one of the addresses above.  Votes posted to the net or mailed to
poster will NOT be counted.  For the vote to pass, there must be
100 more "Yes" votes than "No" votes, and 2/3 of the total votes must
be "Yes"


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XFree86, the enhancement package for X11R5 on Intel-based Unix, and for
discussions of commercial implementations of the X Window System from OS 
vendors and third parties.  Areas for discussion include:

	1) Frequently Asked Questions - including archive location and
	   retrieval, configuration, and email addresses for developer
	   contacts.  Vendor contact information will also be listed.
	2) Announcements of new and upcoming releases, including calls
	   for beta-testers.  Commercial vendors will be invited to
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	   or other sources of detailed information.
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	   support for new display devices, protocol extensions, etc.
	4) General support from the developers of XFree86, and hopefully
	   from commercial vendors.

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