HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: User-Only type documentation
Summary: This sites inplementation of mini-docs
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 20:12:57 PST
Organization: Muth Valley Bell  (619/390-SLIC BBS; V32bis)

stu@valinor.mythical.com (Stu Labovitz) writes:

> How about sharing these files with the rest of us, either here in
> comp.bbs.waffle or via the halcyon.com archives??

OK.  I'll clean it up a tad, then uucp it to remote.halcyon.com
as a single zip file.

In the mean time, here's what I've done:

A user types the following at the main prompt:  newuser

User will get an immediate shell to ZMODEM with download of the
doc file.  Users using terminal software that auto-detects ZMODEM
will painlessly get a copy of a my cut-down version of USER.DOC.
Naturally, this idea can be used to other docs and/or info files.

I've set-up the following files to enable this.

        /extern/newuser file:
/log /shell /command="E:\BIN\sendznew.bat"


        /bin/sendznew.bat file:
E:
cd \docs
dsz port 2 sz newuser.doc     :Set for COM 2 and E:\doc\newuser.doc


        /docs/newuser.doc file:
(not included here.  Is a 38K file made from the 50K
/docs/user.doc file).  Request it via mail-server@slic.cts.com.
In body enter on a new line: get docs/newuser.doc.

That's it in a nutshell.  Hope folks fine the idea useful.

--
     Mike, WB6WUI   //   INET:  mikey@slic.cts.com   //   GEnie: SLIC
From: magus@brewhau.bison.mb.ca (James Copland)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: "-- " as a signature delimiter
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 13:24:21 CST
Distribution: na
Organization: Organium Brainbending & Low Level CodeWorks of Winnipeg, Manitoba.

bob@1776.COM (Robert Coe) writes:

> But my point is that Waffle puts a blank line in automatically before the
> SIG file and in some cases limits the SIG file itself to five lines.  I don't
> want both the blank line and the "-- " line, and I don't want the "-- " line
> to count against the SIG file line count.  The obvious answer (IMHO) is to
> replace the blank line with a "-- " line.  I suppose the way to please every-
> body is to make the contents of the line be settable in the static file.  Or
> do away with the blank line and relax the SIG file line limit; then the user
> can put his own blank line or "-- " line in the SIG file itself.
>
>    ___            _                                           -  Bob
>    /__) _   /    / ) _   _
> (_/__) (_)_(_)  (___(_)_(/_______________________________________ bob@1776.CO
> Robert K. Coe ** 14 Churchill St, Sudbury, Massachusetts 01776 ** 508-443-326

Salut!

Well, my "simple" solution to the above mentioned "problem" is not to
bug Tom Dell for more sig lines or adding the "--" etc., but to use
Roy Silvernail's AppSig program!  As you will see, my default sig.
lines ALL start with "--".  Simple and easy to set up, and most
important, IT WORKS!  Thanks Roy!

Regards,
Magus.

-- magus@brewhau.bison.mb.ca (James C. Copland)
-- Brew Haus -- Winnipeg, Manitoba
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: rmail not accepting % hacks
From: scimitar@suction.acme.gen.nz (Robert Singers)
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 12:42:12 +1300
Organization: Barbed Wire Cat Productions

roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:

> I think that was a problem with DR-DOS, not 4dos.  I haven't seen any
> problems with my stamp file under DOS 3.3 and 4dos, except for New
> Year's morning.  My clock driver is smart enough to catch the day change
> at midnight, but my clock card isn't bright enough to handle the year
> change.

I had a problem with the schedular not working under DR-DOS 6.1,
and was advised place a "del c:\waffle\system\stamp." at the beginning 
of my run.bat file, but I haven't had to as it has been working fine.

The reason I didn't delete the stamp file at the start of run.bat is, 
that when I tried it, it kept running expire over and over.

Robert Singers               | Nothing I say or do should be taken as
scimitar@suction.acme.gen.nz | a reflection of any form of reality or
                             | consensual hallucination.
** It's not my spelling (much) that's faulty.  It's this keyboard! **
From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle icon needed
Keywords: Waffle, Windows, icon
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 00:51:53 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:

> Well, I dood it.  After years of slamming GUI's, I done got me one.  Now,
> does anyone have a waffle icon for DV/X?  An artiste I'm not.

How could you?


--
Kevin Houle     kjhoule@iowegia.uucp
From: lance@Circle.Raleigh.NC.US (Lance A. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Problems with "From " header?
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:27:44 GMT
Organization: The Full Circle BBS, Raleigh NC - DOS/Waffle 1.65

coneill@polarbear.rahul.net (Chris O'Neill) writes:
> That's strange!  Running rmail from the command line hasn't caused a
> problem here.  The problem was with PC-Elm.  Although I checked the
> pcelm.rc file until I was seeing crosseyed, I couldn't figure out why
> it was inserting a space in the "From " line just before the "!coneill"
> so I eventually gave up.

I believe that what you are experiencing is a roach in the PCElm program.  
I too have been unable to make PCElm work right because of the extra space 
problem.  Just gotta wait for a new version I guess.

Lance

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 Domain: lance@circle.raleigh.nc.us (Lance A. Brown)  [ preferred ]
  Bangs: ...!wolves!circle!lance
From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Rewriting headers: how and when and which....
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 20:19:31 CST
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

For some time, now, my mail feed has been munging incoming From: lines.
Where the original reads 'user@some.site.name', I get it and it looks
like 'umn-cs!user%some.site.name'.  On really rare occasions, I'll see
something like 'othersite!yasn!user@some.site.name' get turned into
'umn-cs!othersite^yasn^user%some.site.name' or 'user%place@some.site'
turn into 'umn-cs!user%place%some.site'.

When the carats appear, replies choke after I pass them to the feed, but
I compensate for those manually.  But what if the mail's not for me?

With the increased traffic on my fileserver this past weekend, I'm
noticing that they are rewriting the Reply-To: line too!  I had thought
that was sacrosanct, but noooooooo....

I'm asking yet again to have this fixed.  Meanwhile, what's the
consensus about rewriting headers?  Are they going too far in nailing
the Reply-To?  I think so, but I can't find anything (yet) in the RFCs
that speaks specifically to rewriting headers.

I can compensate in the fileserver's logic, but I'd really rather have
things work right the first time, y'know?
--
Roy M. Silvernail --  roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu - OR-  cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu
  perl -e '$x = 1/20; print "Just my \$$x! (adjusted for inflation)\n"'
          "Does that not fit in with your plans?"
                      -- Mr Wiggen, of Ironside and Malone (Monty Python)
From: dawson@willard.atl.ga.us (Willard Dawson)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Problems with "From " header?
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 07:46:46 EST
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

This is the second time I've received email from slammer!brad over an
apparent problem with mail from my site.  I've not heard this from any
other person, until the recent posts concerning other potential problems
with Waffle's creation of the "From " header.  Has anyone received flak
over this?  Or am being unduly persectued!? :->  Here is the text of the
message as sent to me by brad:

From slammer!brad  Wed Jan  6 09:19:50 1993 remote from willard
Received: by willard.atl.ga.us (1.65/waf)
	via UUCP; Wed, 06 Jan 93 12:03:14 EST
	for dawson
Received: by slammer.uucp (smail2.5)
	id AA04856; 6 Jan 93 09:19:50 EST (Wed)
Subject: Forwarded mail...
To: willard!dawson
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 9:19:49 EST
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Message-Id: <9301060919.AA04856@slammer.uucp>
From: brad@slammer.uucp (Brad Isley)

Forwarded message:

Looks like yer mailer is at it again...

> From uucp Tue Jan  5 23:42:33 1993
> Message-Id: <9301052342.AA01959@slammer.uucp>
> Date: 5 Jan 93 23:42:33 EST (Tue)
> From: uucp@slammer.uucp (uucp)
> To: brad@slammer.uucp
> 
> /usr/spool/uucp/.Admin/xferstats:
> Remote    K-Bytes  K-Bytes  K-Bytes    Hours    Hours  AvCps  AvCps    #    #
> SiteName     Recv     Xmit    Total     Recv     Xmit   Recv   Xmit Recv Xmit
> --------  -------  -------  ------- -------- --------  -----  ----- ---- ----
> bagend       0.00   981.04   981.04  0:00:00  0:18:11    0.0  899.2    0   44
> emory    18424.03     8.61 18432.64  3:16:02  0:00:01 1566.4 8609.0  754   10
> moebius      0.00    87.54    87.54  0:00:00  0:00:47    0.0 1862.6    0    8
> pecanpi      0.00  9881.21  9881.21  0:00:00 12:39:39    0.0  216.8    0  190
> stiatl   10840.29 24216.46 35056.75  2:47:45  6:59:08 1077.0  963.0  184  412
> toolz        6.90  5640.13  5647.03  0:00:10  1:41:27  690.2  926.6    2  146
> willard      0.00  2486.32  2486.32  0:00:00  0:30:26    0.0 1361.6    0  120
> --------  -------  -------  ------- -------- --------  -----  ----- ---- ----
> Total    29271.22 43301.32 72572.55  6:03:57 22:09:39                940  930
> 
> From willard!dawson  Wed Jan  6 04:14:40 1993

There's a ^M right here between willard and !dawson.

> Received: by slammer.uucp (smail2.5)
> 	id AA04093; 6 Jan 93 04:14:40 EST (Wed)
> Received: by willard.atl.ga.us (1.65/waf)
> 	via UUCP; Tue, 05 Jan 93 21:32:45 EST
> 	for slammer!brad
> To: neighbors@willard.atl.ga.us
> Subject: .atl.ga.us, PATHS files, general info
> From: dawson@willard.atl.ga.us (Willard Dawson)
> Message-ID: <yBoXwB1w165w@willard.atl.ga.us>
> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 21:19:57 EST
> Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

< etc. etc. etc. >

-- 
dawson@willard.atl.ga.us (Willard Dawson)
gatech!vdbsan!willard!dawson
emory!uumind!willard!dawson
Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: nrc@cbnews.cb.att.com (N. Richard Caldwell)
Subject: Re: FAQ addition about QWK (was Re: Offline Readers)
Organization: AT&T Network Systems  -  Columbus, Ohio
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 06:46:09 GMT

From article <930111.063449.2O7.rusnews.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, by russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz):
> 
>   - how can I have waffle handle QWK news for my users
>
> the facts are:
> 
>   your users don't want to use waffle, which is fine.  some of them
>   don't have DOS machines.  some of them don't have disk space.  this
>   is no problem.  of course, your users don't have a divine right to
>   read news offline, either.  if someone doesn't understand this,
>   there will be a problem, definitely.
> 
>   for news QWK as it stands just can't handle it.

Nonsense.  QWK isn't ideal by any means but it's servicable as an 
offline reader format (even with nothing more than the much maligned 
Wafmail as a QWK door).  QWK is adequate for those who are interested 
in using it.  With a few bug fixes there really wouldn't be much to 
complain about, certainly not from the level of user who is interested 
in using it. 

Obviously the notion of the sacred bytes of USENET being swaddled in a
BIFF0ID BBS hack like QWK is more than some folks can handle.  Sorry
folks, it's here, it works, and no amount of waving your arms about
saying it doesn't work is going to make it go away.  

Of course, beyond the Not Invented Here Syndrome, we also have the
folks who doubt whether anyone who doesn't have the resources or
interest to set up their own USENET site really deserves to be 
allowed access to the sacred Net to begin with.  Get used to it folks.
No matter how firmly Waffle, Waffle admins and USENET nerds in general
stand against making USENET more accessable to the unwashed masses, it
is coming.

> also, mention Rhys' planned Helldiver packet format stuff, which
> includes QWK as an optional subset.

When Rhys door becomes available I'll make it available to my users.
My guess is that until Helldiver will read QWK packets, not many users
will bother with it, they'll keep using Wafmail and work around it's
ortcomings.

"Don't drive too slowly."                 Richard Caldwell
                                          AT&T Network Systems
                                          att!cbnews!nrc
                                          nrc@cbnews.att.com
From: carlos@carlos
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: HELP! Helldiver, well, wont login
Keywords: Helldiver. MS windows, login
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 00:48:24 -0500
Reply-To: carlos@infoserv.com
Organization: Dominguez UseNet, Brooklyn NY, USA

... I just discovered what happened.
 
I changed the node entry in STATIC to my host's name, infoserv.com
 
This customized version of waffle choked, and mangled the password
file. Helldiver couldn't understand it, and locked me out.
 
I restored a virgin backup of my PASSWORD file, and redid my STATIC
file. That did the trick!
 
To all the folks who emailed me these changes to my STATIC file, thanks
but it bombed.
 

-- 
  ___ ___  __   .   ___  __  //  Carlos Dominguez, MS-DOS Enthusiast !
 /   /__/ /_ ) /   /  / /_  // | carlos@infoserv.com  carlos@dorsai.com
(__ (  / /  \ (__ (__/ __/ ..  | carlos@phantom.com   FIDONET 1:278/706
                                 
Xref: sparky comp.bbs.waffle:5904 comp.bbs.misc:1735 alt.bbs:7888 news.software.readers:2683
From: dalew@twiki.PDX.COM (Dale Weber)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs,news.software.readers
Subject: Re: .QWK mail reader for Waffle
Date: 6 Jan 93 04:46:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: twiki.54uXwB4w165w
Organization: Wafflemania Unlimited - Portland, OR USA

luciana@rnp.impa.br (Luciana O. Goes Neno) writes:

> Is there any Internet site from where I could ftp BlueWave? 

  I don't know.  It will eventually be available here via mail server, but
isn't at present.  Otherwise you will just have to call a BBS and download
it.

--
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Home BBS: +1(503)335-9600 at 2400 - 9600 Bps using a 16.8k HST Dual Standard
          Your friendly BlueWave and Waffle Beta and Distribution site
From: tichauer@valpso.hanse.de (Manfredo Tichauer)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: V-MailServer 1.22
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 22:56:53 +0100
Organization: "The Private Site of Manfredo Tichauer"

rick@vsystem.wimsey.bc.ca (Rick Vandenberg) writes:

> Gess Shankar <gess@knex.via.mind.ORG> writes:
> 
> > rick@vsystem.wimsey.bc.ca (Rick Vandenberg) writes:
> > 
> > > Version 2.0, slated for release in February, handles multiple
> > > addresses, up to 128 characters in length.  This is an MSDOS limitation.
> [...]
> > > 
> > V-MailServer creates its own queue files, but it generates individual
> > command and data files for each address. I suppose this facilitates
> > passing it to the mailing agent such as Rmail. I suggest an option
> > (configurable) that will generate one data file with most of the
> > headers set and individual command files. V-MailServer (vmailx) can
> > use these to create the queue files of the host (rnews or whatever).
> > Anyone wishing to change the scheme of things can write a program to
> > take the above and create the spool they want including 512 byte
> > address lines. V-MailServer itself can include such a utility or 3rd
> > parties can step in. If the format changes (what doesn't), one still
> > has the option of using the native code (rnews in Waffle), while scrambling
> > to update the add-on. ;-)
> 
> Working on it :)  It can get a little complicated, as the command
> file(s) must store the variable header information, and vmailx must have
> new logic added to deal with headers and the like.


PLEEEEAAASE do it soon :-) and is possible, together with the possibillity
of joining (is this the right word?) different incoming mails into one
outgoing file.

Manfredo



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From: vince_m@wacss.anixter.com (Vince Mammoliti)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Problem: Abnormal Program Termination when repling to News Posting
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 09:03:25 EST
Organization: Anixter Canada Inc.

I have currently, noticed a problem with my waffle setup.

When I try to directly mail to a news posting I get an
Abnormal Program Termination
(Queued for Internet Delivery)

Message. I find a copy of the message in the SPOOL/OUTBOX directory
but the messages doesn't get queued ?

Any Suggestions ?

p.s.  All other functions work correclty.

Thanks

Vince

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       Anixter Canada Inc.           User: Vince Mammoliti  
      Mississauga, Ontario	    Voice: (416) 897-5665 Fax: (416) 897-6236
   Service Is Our Technology     Internet: vince_m@wacss.anixter.com
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: squevill@yo_dud.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Stephane Quevillon)
Subject: Validation problem
Keywords: validate files access
Reply-To: squevill@stam.qe.bell.ca
Organization: OD, Bell Canada
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:45:37 GMT

Hello all,
	this is a brick wall... I have read the manuals about three hundred
times and I cannot figure this one out...everything was working fine one day
and the next, not!

Here is the situation: (the screen from admin, s test)

Security (test)
 
                        Password   test
                    Access level   3
               Fake level string   0
                 Privilege level   3
                Group membership   
             Waffle system shell   
 
    Inform EVENTS of account use + Y
        User can change password   Y
             Enforce time limits + N
        Permit local access only   N
         Splash file after login + Y
 
This user (test) cannot access the files section, we get the message:


14:45 (?=menu,bye=logoff) > files

Validation is required to use the FILES section.


If I try the same as a user that has Privilege level 9 it works!!

I have looked everywhere and checked all permissions on the files and
it all seemed normal, we even reverted back to older static files and the
same is happening.

Anyone can offer some Help?  Thanks.  (BTW, we run Waffle 1.65 - Unix)

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: ISOPATCH V1.03 with MIME-support available now
Keywords: MIME ISO8859-1 DOS WAFFLE
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:21:20 GMT

carlos@carlos writes:

>>Actually, it's in pub/machines/ms-dos/networking/waffle.

>..A) Would this work perhaps with 1.63? Am switching over asap to 1.65
>     soon, but the MIME features are intriguing.

>  B) Will you put this file up at Halcyon's mail server soon?

isopatch.zip and isosrc.zip are in the ~/pub/incoming directory
on halcyon.com to await Vince's moving them to their final resting
place, probably in ~/pub/waffle/mail, but I'll leave it up to him.
Maybe ~/pub/waffle/hacking.

-- 
     halcyon.com, Public Access Internet, Seattle, WA, +1 206 382 6245
                 "A World of Information at your Fingertips"
                 P.O. Box 555, Grapeview, WA 98546-0555, USA
                    ralphs@halcyon.com,  +1 206 955 1050
From: djk@boombox.apana.org.au (David Keegel)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Work-around for 255 line editor limit under 1.65/Unix?
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 11:23:19 +1100
Reply-To: David.Keegel@apana.org.au
Organization: Private site, Melbourne, Australia.

In <c4g2wB3w165w@netlink.cts.com> system@netlink.cts.com (System Administrator) writes:
>        I hope this isn't a FAQ

Probably.  It is answered in waffle\docs\static.doc.  Keyword: buflines.

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Newsgroups: comp.groupware
From: weems@cse.uta.edu (Bob Weems)
Subject: GroupKit?
Organization: Computer Science Engineering at the University of Texas at Arlington
Distribution: comp.groupware
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:24:21 GMT

Does anyone recall a posting around Oct/Nov 1992 regarding a groupware
toolkit based on InterViews?  I believe that it was developed
at Univ. of Toronto.  I have lost my paper copies and cannot
recall the ftp site.
Newsgroups: comp.groupware
From: lacroix@heron.bellcore.com (Michel Lacroix)
Subject: groupware tools in sw development
Organization: Morristown Research and Engineering
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 17:15:10 GMT


Is there anyone having some experience with using groupware tools in
software development projects?

In a former life, I used the Notesfile system, for design discussions
(although the final decisions were taken in a meeting), keeping
track of open issues, and displaying the current project plan with the
status of the different tasks.

I would be particularly interested in hearing about experiences with
more recent commercial tools or even experimental ones.

Michel Lacroix
Newsgroups: comp.groupware