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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:08:36 CDT
From:         There is No Answer <T9AA@SDSUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Junkies

     Okay, so I'm new on the net.  That labels me as the fresh kill, new meat,
plebe, peon and all the other monikers you can come up with.  I accept this
and hold my plebeian head high.

    And he's *PROUD* of it? Get the napalm NOW!  B)

     One advantage I do hold, however, is the esteemed pleasure of working
in the same office as dear ol' Lenny Ray.  I may be one of the few
privilaged soles on the net who actually knows what he looks like.
     That aside, here is what I really wrote to say: Lenny an I have just
begun trading CD's, kinda trying to introduce one another to new sounds etc.
Seeing as I'm of the younger set and he's a deep rooted blues man I thought
I'd introduce him to the Cowboy Junkies, a kinda new blues if you will.
Well, he came back after the long weekend with a down look in his eyes.  HE
DIDN"T LIKE THE COWBOY JUNKIES!

    How evil! B) Well, I have respect for them doing "Sweet Jane"
    (as opposed to GnR & "Live and Let Die," a song I hate), but
    I give no props for their version. Anyone ever think of turning
    Margo up? Vocals buried in sound works for Alain Jourgensen and
    James Hetfield, but not for Cowboy Junkies.

     Well, that's okay he has his preferences and I have mine.  He has,
however, taken both _Whites Off Earth Now_ and _Black Eyed Man_ home
for another listen.  Maybe its not too late.  Perchance there is still
a chance for dear Lenny Ray to see the light.

     He's been list'nin' to a cd
     yeah he wants to play it sideways
     least that's what Lenny Ray said   (obscure musical reference)

     Here's hoping he pulls a Saul act, but drag out the Flatlanders
     and start from there, IMHO.

Dave
t9aa@sdsumus.bitnet
Dallas is a jungle
but Dallas gives a beautiful light
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 08:57:04 CDT
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject: Re: Quartet/Gospel

Michelle May <MAMAY%WAYNEST1.BITNET@AMERICAN.EDU> says:

>The first violinist doesn't
>like the cello player's style of playing and I have to say I tend to agree.
>We have had some discussions about the best way to "dispose" of her--the main
>problem is we don't have a suitable replacement in mind.

How long has this quartet been playing together?  Could it be that you
haven't reached a point where you're comfortable sharing those negatives
with the cellist?  I mean, what are her choices if you do share those
things -- (a) go along, (b) refuse to go along, (c) quit over
irreconcilable musical differences.

Are you under the impression that there's anything that members of a
musical group can't criticize about one another's playing?  That's
never been my experience.  Likewise, nobody has even been shy about
telling me that they only want me to sit in for a rehearsal, but that
their regular player will play on the job.

Perhaps your problem is in the word "local".  Do you have some friends
elsewhere who would be available for gigs, recording, etc?

>We are trying to
>restrict the quartet's personnel to black women and/or just women

And metal bands generally restrict their personnel to guys with long
hair.  Hell, your personnel policy might even get you some gigs.  Who
can be against that?

Bob
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:57:11 CDT
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject: Re: Quartet/Gospel

AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU sez:

>What I am saying is gospel music is universal for different people as long as
>it serves its purpose (serving GOD).

You would not, I hope, deny the possibility of someone who didn't care
two beans about "serving GOD" finding *musical* value in gospel
music.

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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:09:00 CDT
From:         Just say no to F*m*ly V*l**s <CV01@SWTEXAS.BITNET>
Subject:      Show us your bizarre covers

>Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:18:32 -0400
>From:         "The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny"
              <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
>Subject:      Re: covers
>
>
>Have you ever heard the bluegrass version of Pink Floyd's "Brain Damage"?
>I have no idea who does it. I was driving back from Rhode Island last
summer
>and was switching stations when I came across some bluegrass radio show (I
>think it must have been a NPR show). I didn't recognize what it was until
I
>heard the lines:
>       "...and if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
>       I'll see you on the dark side of the moon."
>I was laughing so hard I almost drove off the highway.

   That must have been The Austin Lounge Lizards.  They also do horrible
things with Honey (yes, that Honey), and some other covers whose names
escape me at the moment.  They were even featured a while back on NPR --
All Things considered, I believe.  But we Texans already knew about their
craziness.

   I'd have to agree wholeheartedly with Rick's ideas about playing covers
in a totally different vein from the original.  Which brings me to another
Texas band -- Brave Combo.  They do things like People Are Strange in a
Yiddish polka style.  Or Sixteen Tons as a cumbia.

   So does anyone else want to post their favorite "twisted" covers ... or
ideas for these mutant covers?

   Speaking of mutant music -- I'm pretty sure that Tijuana Taxi was the
theme music for the Dating Game.


      bye,
      cmv ("chuckrateeze")
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 09:12:53 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      RE: covers

>Which version? the Loaded or the Another View version?

I take it you mean Reed's Rock&Roll.  I just realized I'm confusing some
songs here.  I don't remember.  I seem to remember doing a cross between
a live version and a studio one, but I'm kind of drawing a blank.  You
gotta remember, this was 12 years ago when I was in college.  Need I say
more?

Russ
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:06:30 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: don't freddle my gruntbugglies
              poet and computer geek with boobies" at Sep 15, 92 1:50 pm

> An aside to our strong-armed-christian-militant-cyrus-head:
>
> "Remember, there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over...
"
>
> (cummon Sonia, guess who said this??!!)  :)
>
>

Kneel Simon
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 10:30:50 EDT
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Sharrock improv
              9 Sep 1992 09:32:01 EDT from <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

On Wed, 9 Sep 1992 09:32:01 EDT Sonia Kovitz said:
>
>Hey Scott "ET" Hammer--you live in Richmond, right?  the model of Graceland is
>in Roanoke, why dontcha go see it for us?  and why weren't there any space
>messages for Elvis?
>
Yes, I do live in Richmond, and I'll probably be in the Roanoke area sometime
this fall -- I'll look for the model Graceland.  BTW, on NPR this morning, they
were telling about the Democrat who won the US Senate primary in Wisconsin --
his name is Feingold.  Apparently, while his two opponents were slugging it
out with negative ads attacking each others' character, Feingold was running
funny ads: one of them showed a mock up of a tabloid newspaper with the head-
line: ELVIS ENDORSES FEINGOLD.  It was almost enough to restore my faith in
the electoral process.

-Scott "Elvis Rules -- Death to All Who Appose" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Date:         Sat, 5 Sep 1992 16:30:21 CDT
From:         "The Truth (some assembly required)" <T9AA@SDSUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: need train song recommendations

City of New Orleans - I have versions by Arlo, Arlo w/ Pete Seeger,
                      Holly Near and Ronnie Gilbert (aka HARP) and
                      the Seldom Scene.
Casey Jones -         Versions by the Grateful Dead and Warren Zevon.
                      Not quite ready for children ("Ridin' that
                      train/high on cocaine . . ."
Rock Island Line -    Versions by Leadbelly and by Little Richard w/
                      Fishbone as the backing band. Funky.

Dave
t9aa@sdsumus.bitnet
 I wish I was a headlight on a northbound train
 I'd shine my light through the cold Colorado rain
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:02:00 EST
From:         SUPSFRAN@STETSON.BITNET
Subject:      Re: need train song recommendations

The Eurythmics song "Underground Train" can be found on the "9 1/2 Weeks"
soundtrack.
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:56:38 CDT
From:         U33963@UICVM.BITNET
Subject:      Re: top 10 guitar list
              4 Sep 1992 16:23:36 -0400 from <rapotter@COLBY.EDU>

On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:23:36 -0400 Russell A. Potter said:
>No, no, youse guys are all wrong.  Technical virtuosity by itself does not
>a great guitarist make. Solo lead guitar is also only _one_ style after
>all. Inovation ought to count too.  Here's my top 10 list of all time:
>
>1. Charlie Christian.  In his few brief years as a soloist, he virtually
>  _made_ jazz guitar from the bottom up.  There's a compilation disc that
>  had almost all his recordings; give it a listen.
>
>2. Leo Kottke.  "Like a Frankenstein with twenty fingers," one listener
>was heard to remark.  His voice is terrible, but his fluid finger-
>picking is matchless.
>
>3. Bo Diddley.  You have not heard what a guitar can do till you hear this
>   guy; his guitars were square but his playing was not.  Irony is, he's
>  still around, but has not had an easy time staying afloat, financially
>  speaking.  Someone ought to have a benefit concert for him.
>
>4. Eddie Lang.  Lang's jazz guitar records from the 20's and 30's were
>the first fully melodic jazz lines, and they're still impressive even
>through the scratches.
>
>5. Django Reinhart.  Not bad for a guy with three fingers on his left
>hand ...
>
>6. Robert Johnson.  The blues hit its apex, and every rock lick ever
>played owes its heart and soul to Johnson; check out the 2-CD Columbia-
>Legacy box.  Johnson played an Epiphone guitar capoed at the 5th fret,
>and played both slide and standard this way -- astonishing!
>
>7. Clarence White.  A bluegrass virtuoso and, for a time, one of
>Nashville's busiest studio guitarists; his rhythmic attack style is
>impossible to duplicate but great fun to listen to, and it pops up
>in the weirdest places (such as in Phil Och
>s's little-remembered rock anthem, "My Kingdom for a Car."
>
>8. Sandy Bull.  A brilliant guitarist, and respectable as well on the
>banjo, mandolin, lute, sitar, and a'oud; his Vanguard LP's are long out
>of print but worth searching for; "Electric Blend/E Pluribus Unum" is his
>best.  He fried out on drugs but is back with a new CD called
>"Vehicles" on the TRS label in 1991.
>
>9. Hendrix.  Fir all previously mentioned reasons, and then some.
>
>10. Sharon Isbin.  The best classical guitarist I've ever heard,
>PERIOD.  Breame and Williams are nothing next to her.
>
>All of the above IMHO of course ....
>
>
>=========================================================================
>"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies"
>                                                    --Friedrich Nietzsche
>=======Russell A. Potter========<rapotter@colby.edu>=====================
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:35:12 CDT
From:         Little Inquisitor <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Desperately seeking information from folk/folk-rockies

Found an interesting album at my favorite thrift. Description first: plain very
 red cover with printed handwriting that says "you may not know who is playing
the music on this album cover [sic] and this album is not going to help you." P
lain red label which reads: "Manhole presents Yama and the Karma Dusters 'Up fr
om the Sewers' all songs Renegade Pub. Copyright H. Berkman."  Music in a folk
and folk-rock bent w/ extremely political lyrics, and such wonderful titles as
"SnowBitch" and "Don't kill the babies."  Any info -- year, whatever -- will be
 appreciated. *IMPORTANT*: As I'm trying to wean myself from ALLMUSIC, please r
espond tothe above address.  Thanks in advance.

Renato

P.S. Am suffering ALLMUSIC withdrawal symptoms -- acute ones too. What's the cu
re?
From: ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET (Tim Johnson)
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Subject: Name Dropping
Date: 13 Sep 92 15:01:25 GMT
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And other droppings....

The Ruxpin is back.

and apparently still drinking that pisswater.  Recycle
it from the source, guy.  Take a can with you to the can.

>   I mean the guy plays his own body and makes money.

I can see where you might be jealous.  Having to play with
yourself for free.  Nice that you could interrupt for a
moment, while waiting to recharge, to masturbate with the
keyboard for us.

>   Machievelli never told you or me to be nice.

Machiavelli died for his sins.  His own career could perhaps serve
as a model of putting his works into practice.  I suspect that such
a Prince among men as you (having made it through a course in Poly
Sci., lordy, what an intellectual!) is aware of this, of course.

(Hint: drop Nietzsche's name, too.  Pretend you are a philosopher.)

Can't tell you what a pleasure it is to see that you've been flushed
out of hiding.

                       -Tim
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 02:09:00 EDT
From:         "alt.wasted.time" <TIFFANYDE@URVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Friday follies

Gary sed:

>Derek reports:
>
>>Lollapalooza - Lush rocked and The Jesus and Mary Chain were pretty good too.
>>  Other then that, I was a bit let down.  Oh yah, the sideshow was cool.
>
>       How about Ministy? Two guys I work with went and missed the Ministry
>set, but they really went to see the Peppers. I wanted to go, but I had
>already spent to much on concert tix at the time they went on sale. :(

        Yah, Ministry was pretty cool (hmm, have we talked about them before?)
Al Jurgeson REALLY gets into live shows.  His energy level was incredible.
And the female dancers in bondage outfits with deer antlers on their heads
were interesting.  Unfortunately, it was kinda late in the day and I didn't
feel like slamming up by the stage.  I guess your friends did get there late,
Ministry was the second to last act.

        I guess my problem with Lollapalooza wasn't the performances.  All the
bands did great.  There were alot of memorable moments...Soundgarden's lead
singer jumping into the crowd...someone covered "Cop Killer"...Pearl Jam was
joking around witht the audience...The Red Hots' flaming hats...........
I just would have liked some more of that so-called diversity.  A raggae band,
an acoustic band, something like that.  The individual bands did well, although
I of course like some better then others...it wasn't like last year when Living
Colour seemed totally dead.

Ah well, I'm tired and going to sleep now...Adrian Legg is still kicking...

later days and sunny rays,
                          D.T>
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Subject: Re: gospel/gawd's forgiveness for us shameless netters
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:07:42 GMT
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On Sat, 12 Sep 1992 21:34:54 EDT Walter Keller said:
>The point is, I think god digs music. Also I would say lighten up because
>whoever gawd is or isn't, or however many of them there are, they fer sure
>all have one hell of a sense of humor !! Just look at this world we live in,
>and all the silly, trivial ; or awful, cruel things that are Allowed to go on.

I believe in GOD first of all, but i believe (and i think the Bible confirms
this) that we are in control of our destiny, the bible put forth the plan and
what we decide to do with it is up to us, we are responsible for our actions
and IMHO we're not doing a great job, TV and music influenced society to almost
selfdestruct,parents (i'm one) are not taking the responsibilities that they
are obligated when they bring a new life into the world it is their resonsibilt
y to raise the child and instill values at an early age which will hopefully
make the child a plus to society instead of the opposite , this is no sermon
I don't even attend church (I should though), but its just my opinion, and if
you would like to repsond in a "non-flame" type reponse please e-mail me
personally so as not to tie up the group with non-related music chatter.
.........L.W. ISTS024@uabdpo

 Let us music-netters ramble on - we ain't hurtin nobody, and don't intend to,
>although sometimes tempers do flare. Go kiss a sinner's feet, save a spider's
>life, listen to some country or blues or classical or jazz and relax. Per-
>sonally i'm gonna get back in my pew and turn up the radio - i think it's
>the allman brothers. As my own personal mentor Mr Natural used to say, "Hup
> Ho !!"

You can't listen to anything better that the Bros period IMHO. It just doesn't
get much better, IMHO they're the most talented band (band is the key here) tha
t we've had the opportunity to hear.......L.W.

ATTENTION DRUMMERS. how often are there band that have two drummers such as
trucks and jaimoe and make it work it seems like that would be tough, and
the Bros obvisouly put their egos aside in order for it to work the way it
did. Leaving you ego at home is a lesson that quite a few people should apply
to themselves......just opinions..........L.W.
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Date: 15 Sep 1992 04:41:04 GMT
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In a previous article, ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer) says:

>Back to that Sunday School teacher mode, eh?   Looks like we could
>use some new Allmusic subscribers to get you back to your old self.

  I think this joke was so hip that not even *you* understood it.
That might be an Allmusic first!
  Btw, I tried to keep the pulpit warm for you (after Lenny Bob and
Mr. Help took their turns I just assumed anyone could play), but to be
perfectly honest, I like your impersonation of "the name guy" that Rob
Schneider does a whole lot better.  ;)
  Music?  Oh yes, music. I've been listening to some Gamalon, with Ernie
Watts even, and it smokes. Well, there's a ballad-y number that is a bit
thick, but other than that, it smokes.

  Jeff ("n.n.")

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Subject: Beer's broad range
Date: 14 Sep 1992 18:52:18 GMT
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In a previous article, ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer) says:

>I also want to thank you for pointing that out to the folks here.
>Couldn't have done it without you....  is it ok if I start calling you
>genius?

  Sure... if you can still type after all that vigorous self-back
patting.  ;)  Get a jar of that Icy-Hot stuff... that'll take the
soreness out pretty quick. And Carol says if you have any left over,
you can do some interesting things with it in the sex department.
Just don't waste it on some blonde named Debbie, eh?  ;)
  Besides, when did I ever say your tastes weren't *diverse*?  Hey,
I know I've accused you of intolerance and disrespect, but that doesn't
imply that you have a narrow range of tastes. Gee, for that matter, I
even know people with advanced degrees that vote Republican!  :)

  Jeff ("n.n.")

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From: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
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Subject: I think TV has made some people lax in defense of their words.
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:05:24 GMT
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In a previous article, ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET ("Leonard Watkins") says:

>ATTENTION DRUMMERS. how often are there band that have two drummers such as
>trucks and jaimoe and make it work it seems like that would be tough, and
>the Bros obvisouly put their egos aside in order for it to work the way it
>did. Leaving you ego at home is a lesson that quite a few people should apply
>to themselves......just opinions..........L.W.

  Other things people should leave at home are their martyr complexes
and holier-than-thou attitudes. But seeing as how humans come as a package
deal, that's not likely to happen here on the net, where opinions are
traded wholesale and sooner or later all the cards are laid on the table.

  Just opinions, yes... but it *is* our stock-in-trade.

  Jeff ("n.n.")

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