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From: buhr@umanitoba.ca (Kevin Andrew Buhr)
Subject: Re: I guess there is no way to start zip/zoo from Icon
Organization: University of Manitoba, Canada
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:13:15 GMT

In article <BxrKIM.LJ4@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umnoor@ccu.umanitoba.ca
(Nasir Ahmed Noor) writes:

   As these programs require command line parameters and opitons. I was
   trying to import these onto my desk top to cut short the Path and DPath
   variables. Is there any PM interface available for any of the archivers?

Nasir:

	Here's what I did.  First, I created two new program objects
(dragging them off the "Program" template) and put them in the
directory with my "ZOO.EXE" (they could have been put anywhere).  I
set both of them up to run the program "C:\OS2\LOCAL\APPS\ZOO.EXE".

	On one of them, I put "v" in the "Command Line Parameters"
box.  On the other, I put "x".  I named the first "ZOO View" and the
second "ZOO Extract".  I also changed the working directory of "ZOO
Extract" to "C:\OS2\LOCAL", so it would put the extracted files in a
known place.

	Then, I opened the "Association" settings tab for "ZOO View",
and I added the "*.ZOO" extension.  I did the same thing for the "ZOO
Extract" object.  I opened the "Session" (or "Window"?) tab for them
both and unchecked "Close Window on Session End", so my listing of
files wouldn't disappear right away.

	Since I added "*.ZOO" to the "ZOO View" associations first, it
is the default action.  Now, whenever I double click on a ZOO file, up
pops an OS/2 text window with a list of files.  When I right click on
the file, and use the arrow next to the "Open" selection, both "ZOO
View" and "ZOO Extract" are given as possible options.

	I did the same thing with ZIP, too.

Kevin <buhr@ccu.UManitoba.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ericwolf@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Eric Wolf)
Subject: Does SP support ET4000 16 color modes?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:13:05 GMT


Are the drivers included with the OS/2 CSD (SP) support the 16 color
modes of the ET 4000 based cards?  Just curious, really.  I just want
to have something to fall back on just in case my 1024x768x256 mode
is too slow.

Thanks!

- Eric
  ericwolf@mentor.cc.purdue.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: buhr@umanitoba.ca (Kevin Andrew Buhr)
Subject: Re: Known SP bugs: (Diamond video card related)
Organization: University of Manitoba, Canada
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:55:37 GMT

In article <BxzBCM.B9q@ns1.nodak.edu> phaniraj@plains.NoDak.edu (V.
Phaniraj) writes:
	.
	.
	[ procedure deleted ]
	.
	.
>  On the 3 machines I tried this on, SVGA ON gave me the error
>  "Unknown adapter/chipset".

I found that, when I booted a DOS diskette from drive "A", "SVGA OFF"
told me that "A:\OS2\SVGADATA.PMI" wasn't found, while "SVGA ON" told
me "Unknown adapter/chipset".

My solution was to dual boot DOS from drive "C" to run "SVGA ON".  You
could try creating an "OS2" directory on drive "A" to see if "SVGA ON"
will create the file on drive "A", so you can copy it to drive "C".

Kevin <buhr@ccu.UManitoba.CA>
From: mts@hardy.u.washington.edu (Sean Milligan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: "Environment Space", Running out of Room
Keywords: environment
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:17:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov16.001744.4220
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


Is there anyway to increase the amount of environment space for PATH and SET 
commands in DOS or OS/2 sessions?  I'm having difficulty getting FORTRAN 5.1
running under OS/2 becuase it requires all kinds of SET and PATH statements.

Currently the only way I can get it to run is start a DOS or OS/2 session, 
reset the path to nothing, reset all the SET commands, then issue the SET and
PATH commands for M*crosoft FORTRAN 5.1.  

I suppose I could write a BATCH file to do the above for me and load PWB (
Fortran's Programmers WorkBENCH) but then I can't have my other PATH's and SET
commands for that session.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Sean Milligan
mts@hardy.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: adhir@wam.umd.edu (Al Dhir)
Subject: Re: OS2SYS.ini file size: Interim solution.
Keywords: OS2SYS.INI file size growing
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:23:55 GMT

>By the way, after safely shrinking my ini files in this way, I proceeded
>to crash the system terribly by using checkini, a companion program to
>copyini. The fault here is mine: checkini tells you when it finds an
>error, offers to fix it, and suggests whether or not you should accept
>specific offers. I accepted all of them, including the ones it advised
>against. It could be that checkini would have shrunk my ini files still
>further (and safely) if I had followed its advice.

The cpyini program that I an d (I suspect) most people are using is the
one in the hobbes uploads directory, which does not have a companion program.
In my opinion, it is much easier to use than the checkini/copyini programs
which have been around for quite some time now.

I, too, COMPLETELY trashed my system useing that damn checkini thing.  I
ended up having to reinstall GA and the SP to get my system back up.  I
advise strongly against checkini...and as a precaution, I advise against
the copyini program that comes with checkini also.  I don't trust them
anymore.  Sure, the mistakes could have been mine, but the documentation
that comes with checkini sucks big time, so how the heck should I have known??
From: Richard.Lee@p463.f1.n3641.z1.fidonet.org (Richard Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: DSP Files?
Date: 23 Nov 92 01:56:25 GMT

I'm trying to install the Beta Trident drivers with 8514 resources. I keep getting the complaint that no "*.DSP" files are in the source directory. I can't seem to find any references to "DSP" files.

 * Origin: 919/286-4542 |=| Psychotronic |=| Durham, NC (1:3641/1.463)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: shurr@cbnews.cb.att.com (larry.a.shurr)
Subject: Starting EPM minimized & emacs keys for EPM
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, OH
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 05:10:34 GMT

Greetings.  I wanted to start EPM minimized, but it does not honor
the request and always opens a window.  I first tried the dodge of
misspelling the program name, checking the "Start Minimized" box,
then correcting the name.  This start EPM just fine, but not mini-
mized as I had hoped.  Thinking that the dodge might not work for
some reason, I tried "start /min epm" with no better success: EPM
does not honor the request to start minimized (it doesn't have to,
the description of the start command warns of this).  Still, I'd
like to do just that.  Is there a way?

2nd question.  I'm an EMACS hack -- OK! OK! Hold it down! We're
supposed to have freedom of religion here :-).  I don't care to
debate the relative merits of EMACS vs. EPM or anything else.  A
programmer's choice of editor is private and there's no use nor
need to fight about it.  I like what I've seen of EPM and it 
seems to be very amenable to reprogramming.  It looks as though
it could be endowed with a high degree of EMACS'ish behavior at
the keystroke level.  I'll be able to do it myself eventually,
but I was wondering if anyone else has undertaken the job.  If
so, would you please share?

(Yes, I know I could simply learn a new set of keystrokes, but
I'd be happier to maintain consistency in the various environ-
ments I work in while still being able to avail myself of 
advantages available in each of the major environments I work
in (Unix in several flavors, MSDOS, and -- now -- OS/2).

Of course I know that I can get genuine Gnu Emacs for OS/2 and I
had installed it on my previous, now defunct, hard drive and I
could do it again.  However, PM window update performance exceeds
that of windowed VIO on my ET4000 in SVGA mode (it's really
amazing the difference), and I don't want to clutter my hard disk
with a multitude of redundant utilities such as editors (and I
just plain don't have the room!  235 MB on two hard drives seemed
like a lot with DOS/Windows, but it's much less so with OS/2).

regards,
Larry
-- 
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EOR (end-of-ramble)
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Accessing old DOS drive C: under new OS/2
Keywords: access DOS drive
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:29:55 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Nov14.165257.24624@yenta.alb.nm.us> ben@yenta.alb.nm.us (Ben Klausner) writes:
>When I installed OS/2, I was fortunate to have extra space on my drive, so I
>put it in an unused partition. Before that, I had a C: primary, and a D: and
>a E: in the extended partition.
>
>After OS/2 was put in, I found I could access the old D: and E: under OS/2,
>but not the old C:. The new C: was the new OS/2 partition. The old C: is
>still intact, and I can boot to it, but then the new OS/2 partition is
>unavailable.

Sorry.  Only one primary partition may be active at a time.  You're
booting into a primary partition, so the other one (DOS C:) can't be
accessed.  The only way around this is to install OS/2 into an
extended partition.  In order to boot from there, however, you'll need
to install Boot Manager, which will require a re-partition to install
(I believe).
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: burleigh@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (Frank Burleigh)
Subject: Re: How to "register" new hardware with OS/2?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:38:52 GMT

In <1992Nov15.174823.9254@midway.uchicago.edu> pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (George Jetson) writes:

>Another interesting (?) thing about this.  After having installed OS/2
>on the new drive once, I found that I was unable to access the drive
>with DOS FDISK.  (Even after turning the machine off, waiting the
>proverbial 10 seconds, and booting a DOS floppy!).  That is, somehow,
>OS/2 broke my hard disk.  I seem to remember reading something in the
>dox about how once you've installed OS/2, you can never really get rid
>of it.  Is there some way to restore the drive to the factory condition,
>or do I have to take it back to the store?  (I was able to re-install
>OS/2 on the drive, seemingly w/o problems, but I may at some point
>decide to trash OS/2 entirely, and I'd hate to have to trash the drive
>as well)

Your article didn't mention the type of the partion(s) you created.
If you created a HPFS partition, then no, "real" DOS booted from a
floppy won't recognize it; the disk's partition table will contain 
info to the effect that, "DOS, you don't do this kind of disk..."

To illustrate, I have a single 240mb IDE drive with three partitions:
c: hpfs
d: hpfs
e: fat

When I boot DOS off a floppy, DOS sees only E: and of course names
it C:.  I believe this behavior is documented.

As for being able to remove OS/2, a simple FDISK and (DOS) format
does that just fine.

--
Frank Burleigh
Department of Sociology, Indiana University, Bloomington, IN  47405
CIS 72730,1017; Internet burleigh@ogre.cica.indiana.edu; Bitnet burleigh@iubacs
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From: worm+@CMU.EDU (Rahul Verma)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: OS/2 Crashproof? NOT!
Date: 16 Nov 92 10:31:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.8f20Iyy00iV1A5ZwdH
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.os2.misc: 16-Nov-92 Re: OS/2 Crashproof?
NOT! by Mike Levis@ringer.cs.uts 
> In article <1992Nov15.184700.6364@gw.wmich.edu>
925wardell@gw.wmich.edu writes
> :
> >
> >       You are not alone.  I don't run my machine nearly as long as you
> >do and I get trap problems and just hanging.  Example:  Load TE/2,
> >logon to the INternet, and for some reason when I will control escape,
> >it will just hang.
> >       Sometimes with windows apps running in seamless mode the thing
> >will just hang.
> >       Sometimes when I puta graphics DOS app into a window I will
> >get a Trap.
> >       Sometimes I get a Trap for no apparent reason when switching away.
> >
> >       POST Service Pack also.
> >
> >       I mean, sure Windows and my Amiga crashed more but they never
> >tried to claim "ROCK SOLID! MISSION CRITICAL..." OS/2 is not all that
> >stable.  At least with Windows it would crash when it was doing something
> >strabnge.  OS/2 will crash randomly and it is not a hardware problem.
> >
> >                                                       -Brad
> >

I disagree. I run my software on $1800 486dx with 8mb and a 120md drive.
my machine has not been powered down in 2 months! I have tcpip running
with a x server, mail server, telnet server, ftp server, finger daemon
and talk daemon. I run seamless windoze stuff at 800x600x256 on my
diamond speedstar. I reboot twice a week (average).

the only instability I ever see is while I'm installing a new driver or
playing around with my config.sys. when I crash an individual program, I
only have to kill it, not reboot the system. I can safely say the os/2
is the most stable os that I can run software on. Sure UNIX is more
stable but I can't afford to rob a bank each time I need an upgrade for
my word processor. OS/2 is the *ONLY* way to go.

my only complaint ---> I want a diamond speedstar driver so that I don't
have to consider selling my card for an inferior one!!! Diamond, is
there anyone home?????? you have a big following but you'll soon lose it
if you don't make life easier for us people who actually want to use
your card to the extent of it's capabilities.

Rahul Verma
worm+@cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: Installing OS/2 Beta
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 22:10:14 GMT

harris@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Michael Harris) writes:
>ddotan@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dolev Dotan) writes:
>>I'm new to OS/2 and i want to install the os/2 Pre-Release. 
>>Before installing, i have a few questions:

>>a. Do I have to format the hard-disk first?  

>You should reformat the PARTITION that you wish to install the beta.  You
>should also reformat the partition with the beta installed once you wish
>to install a newer verion of OS/2 on top of it.
*----
Why should you reformat the OS/2 partition when upgrading from the beta
version?  I didn't read about any file system changes that would make a
difference.
--
	Mike Berger
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
From: joe2@vnet.ibm.com
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 20:17:45 FWT
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Who is Joel?
Reply-To: <joe2@vnet.ibm.com>
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0
            <1992Nov17.173557.25808@njitgw.njit.edu>

In <1992Nov17.173557.25808@njitgw.njit.edu> David Charlap writes:
>In article <16NOV199217122820@trentu.ca> rbarclay@trentu.ca (Ross Barclay) writes:
>>
>>I was wondering who Joel was
>
>Joel Armengaud.  I don't have his e-mail address, though.  He
>occasionally posts from Europe.  I believe he's an IBM employee.
>
   I didn't know I was that famous :-)
   My email address is joe2@vnet.ibm.com

   Note that although I joined IBM OS/2 French developer support
in June 1992, I started writing the video drivers in October 1991.
So this is really a spare time project.

>>where can I get his ATI drivers?
>
>That's the easy part.  ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  Look in /pub/os2/2.0/drivers
>
>
From: shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: How do you install the high res ET4000 drivers in the SP?????!!!
Date: 16 Nov 1992 02:23:22 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: monsoon.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov16.004728.13573@ncsu.edu> jmsmith@eos.ncsu.edu (JEFFREY MARTIN SMITH) writes:
>Does anyone know how to do this...
>I have been looking for the info in the readme files but I cannot find anything
>to follow...
>Thanks,
>Jeff 
>-- 
>

The following is *one* of the *many* methods that has worked for *me*

after installing the sp,
1.  go to the selective install menu.
2.  click on the primary display
3.  pick svga
4.  click on ok
5.  when confronted w/ the many options menu, click on install
6.  os/2 will hten start the installing procedure... (unless i have skipped 
	any other install buttons in my procedure :)
7.  when prompted for disks, insert the GA (!sp) disks... os/2 should 
	bash through disk 7-18 looking for fonts.... (i wished they
	had done a better job here...)
8.  it'll eventually ask you what resolution you wnat for your display
9.  when promted for the display disk, insert the CSD display disks (#15 out
	of the 16 on the 5.25" disks)

i may have got steps 7-9 mixed up... but if you just keep on going in the 
selective install procedures, it'll eventually ask you what display you
wnat if it detects the Tseng 4000 board in your computer or if it sees
that you are capable of higher resolutions...


-- 
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| David Shy		   | 486D/33/12/120 | A proud OS/2 user who isn't   |
| shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu  | 1.4/1.2/1/1304 | deprived by Micro$oft/WindoZe |
=============================================================================
From: charles.mcdougal@nitelog.com (Charles Mcdougal) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: VIDEO7/HEADLAND CARDS
Date: 22 Nov 92 18:31:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Nitelog BBS - Monterey, CA - 408-655-1096
Reply-To: charles.mcdougal@nitelog.com (Charles Mcdougal) 

I can sure identify with your frustration over the lack of response by Headland/whatever? with respects to OS2 support. For several months I have left notes on their BBS, encouraging support and have received NOTHING. Not even an acknowledgement. 
I purchased an original VRAM VGA card two or three years ago at quite a steep price, and WILL not purchase from this unresponsive company in the future, period! 
There are too many companies that at least make an attempt at customer relations to allow this BS to continue. 
 

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 . KWQ/2 1.0C .
From: mullins@convex.com (Don Mullins)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Motherboard, Video Recomendations
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:08:34 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.


  I want to build up my own system for OS/2.  I have just about everything
  picked out but the motherboard and video card.

  I am considering both ISA and EISA for now.

  I would like to get 1280x1024 NI on the video, but 1024x768 NI drivers for
  a card capable of 1280x1024 NI would be acceptable, if the higher res.
  drivers were in the works.

  Any sugettions on these?

Thanks,
Don

--
---                     Don Mullins, mullins@convex.com
----                      Convex Computer Corporation
---                         Richardson, Texas (USA)
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From: mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: CHKDSK problem
Date: 17 Nov 92 07:57:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: ringer.1992Nov17.075700.2933
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Nov15.182654.19521@spang.Camosun.BC.CA> dbarker@spang.Camosun.BC.CA (Deryk Barker) writes:
>
>Having got into a position of having to turn my machine off, as OS/2
>was failing to respond, I found that CHKDSK was reporting errors every
>time I started up. So, turning to the emergency boot section of
>'Inside OS/2 2.0' I tried doing what they suggested:
>	starting from the installation disk
>	pressing ESC instead of Enter to get to the OS/2 command line
>	prompt
>	copying CHKDSK.COM from the hard drive (this was fun, there
>	isn't room on a 51/4 system disk I, so I had to delete a
>	printer01.sys file, but this was just a backup copy disk
>	anyway
>	entering CHKDSK D: /F at the prompt
>
>Unfortunately this doesn't work. I get a message telling me that the
>disk is formatted with HPFS and that the HPFS file system has been
>started, then the prompt again. If I try running CHKDSK from D: it
>tells me, of course, that drive D is locked by another user, but it is
>trying to do *something*, whereas running it freom A: doesn't seem to
>do *anything* - even without the /F.
>
>Can anyone explain/help? I still have CHKDSK messages abnout
>SWAPPER.DAT every time I start the system.
>
>Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept., Camosun College, Victoria B.C.

Boot from the OS/2 install disk.  Insert disk #1 when prompted.  Press
escape when prompted.  When you are at the OS/2 command line, insert
disk #2.  Stay at drive A: ;  don't change to another drive!  Type:
[A:\] CHKDSK D: /F:3

P.S.  There is an OS/2 Frequently Asked Questions List (FAQL) that
      describes OS/2, OS/2 tricks, and OS/2 maintenance.  If you have
      ftp access, see my .signature for the ftp site.  If you don't
      have ftp access, send me e-mail so I can send you the FAQL (it's
      about 60KB long).

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: TW.FY4@isumvs.iastate.edu (Timothy I Miller)
Subject: Where is the Color Palette?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:07:42 GMT

     HELP!  Hey everybody, what's happened to the Color
Palette?  I can't change the colors of the Icon's names or any thing
else?  It seems to have disappeared after I installed the SP!  If
everybody else has it, please just let me know what folder it's in,
I can't find it anywhere!

Thanks!

Timothy Miller
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Install without the install disks ?  What's the secret.
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:36:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.053501.24729@mp.cs.niu.edu> rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert) writes:
>There seem to be several reasonable ways to install OS/2 so that you can
>also use DOS.  There is DUAL BOOT.  Or the Boot Manager with OS/2
>installed on a logical partition and DOS on a standard primary partition.
>The installation book tells how to do it, but it all starts with the use
>of install disks.
>What do you do when you have a system with "Preinstalled OS/2", but which
>was not installed in any of the reasonable ways.  Since install disks were
>not provided, you can't use the only documented approach.  Backup/restore
>won't handle the hidden files (at least that's what the documentation says),
>and SYSINSTX.COM only installs one of the hidden files.
>Yes, I could send off for the install disk package, at a "nominal" charge
>which seems about equal to the price of just buying the system.  Or I
>could just junk the pre-installed system, buy a new package, and install
>from floppy.  But this doesn't make sense.  There should be an easier
>way.  [Perhaps the answer is in the command manual also not provided
>with the preinstalled system, but I could not find it in the on-line
>documentation.]

Would you believe that you need the diskettes?

IBM caught a lot of flak for this packaging because of the problem you
describe, namely that if you want to repartition you have to get the
diskettes, which weren't included with the preloaded systems.  I
believe they are now.

If you know a friendly IBM SE you might be able to get him/her to give
you the diskettes (especially if you can give him the necessary blank
disks).  The charge for disks is supposedly a "media charge."

-- 
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sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]