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From: tdlg9831@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tracey Dianne Layng)
Subject: Re: Please Help... I think my cat is ill
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:39:37 GMT

I read about Mimi and her weight loss and scraping and I wonder if she might
not just have worms. You might ask the vet and have her dewormed. I know that
with worms, cats don't eat and itch around their rear ends. That's my
unofficial diagnosis. I hope this helps.

Tracey
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: mlinda@novell.com (M'Linda Taylor)
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Organization: Novell Inc., Austin, Texas
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:10:45 GMT

In article <l98e5uINNka9@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> aspasia@usability.Eng.Sun.COM (Lisa Louise Davis) writes:
>Aspasia goes on wild rampages, running around the house at top speed,
>arching her back at me, and leaping onto furniture.  
>
>My name for this: "commando cat."
>
>--Lisa
>

I got this off the newsgroup in the last year or so....

M.A.N.K.H - Mutant Alien Ninja Kitty <from> Hell......

All kitties seem to do this.

At 4:00 A.M.

M'Linda
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From: lb04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Laura Bassi)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Various
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:26:42 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Hi folks,
  Just a few random thoughts:

  I took one of my cats on vacation and tried to scoopable litter.  He didn't
  mind.  I hated it.  Grossed out clumps and all...yuck.  I rather scoop the
  real thing ;-) and deal with cleaning the whole box more often...
  Speaking of cleaning, I made the stupid mistake of trying to rinse out the
  box before loading in the car to go home.  Clump city....very dumb.
  Just my 2 cents.

  I am moving and think that my male, Bandit, will be fine but don't know how
  Abbey will react.  The house is a double, thus the basement and attic
  connect to the neighbors' basement and attic.  I am afraid to let either of
  them go into either of those places for fear I will lose them among the
  neighbors' storage stuff.  Any suggestions?

  Thanks
  best, Laura
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ccd@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Carol C Denehy)
Subject: Re: Why Do Cats Sit on Paper?
Organization: None, and I like it like that
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 23:25:58 GMT

In article <AedVOOS00WBO01a=tW@andrew.cmu.edu> "Carol A. Buckner" <cb30+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>On 02-Sep-92 in Why Do Cats Sit on Paper?    
>user Karen Schneider@panix.co writes:
>>This has probably been addressed before, but why is it that
>>cats will zero in on the teensiest piece of paper and plop themselves
>>down on top of it?  Not that I'm complaining--it's just that after
>>twelves years with His Royal Highness I'd like an answer, and he's
>>not forthcoming...
>
>I have no idea why they prefer paper...Brandy likes not sit and sleep on
>it--she plays around it.  I think she likes the noise it makes when she
>"buries" something under it, then tries to fish it out.
> 
>Carol Buckner
>Carnegie Mellon University 
>            
Penny isn't (yet?) addicted to sitting on what you are reading, but
loves paper on the floor, esp newspapers (to get under), tissue
paper (to shred), or anything else. Her current favourite is a
piece of wrapping paper specifically given to her as a toy. She likes
walking around on it and listening to it crackling and then sitting
very tall and statue-like. And her imported grocery bag is still
a good cave even tho it's a bit tired now.

Carol Denehy
From: jmckerro@attcan.UUCP (Janet McKerrow)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Cat Spraying
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:37:14 GMT
Reply-To: jmckerro@attcan.UUCP (Janet McKerrow)
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Canada Inc., Toronto

Sometime ago I posted a cry for help about our younger cat, Tuffy,
spraying in the house.   I would like to thank the people who were
kind enough to e-mail me (I still haven't figured out how to do
that!) with suggestions.

I thought I would let you know what the end result was:  The spraying
became really bad, in spite of him being on two Valium tablets per day (we
didn't try the hormone route, figuring we wanted to get both cats off
drugs).  He seemed to be just going round the house looking for furniture
and things that hadn't yet received his blessing and not caring if he
got yelled at.  A friend suggested taking him to the farm where she
boards her horse and where there are already a number of cats - and he
could spray to his heart's content.

We took him up two nights ago (with food, his bowl and toys) and checked
on him last night.  It's actually an equestrian centre and everybody there 
is aware of the newcomer and is making a fuss of him;  he's found an empty 
stall to hide out in and is still very much intimidated by the size and
the noise of the horses, but we have hopes that he will settle down and
maybe even make friends with the other cats.

Janet



Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty)
Subject: Re: Problems with catflap
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation -- Denver, Colorado
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 23:18:35 GMT

tbryden@acorn.co.uk (Theresa Bryden) writes:
: I have recently adopted two female cats Shelly and Morag (approx 2years old)
: from the RSPCA.  I am having a little trouble getting Shelly to use the cat
: flap.  When I hold the flap open she will reluctantly go through but if I
: gently push her paws at it she goes crazy.  If I leave her indoors, she will
: just stay put and even leaving her outside in the rain won't encourage her
: to use it.  
: 
: Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I could do to make things a
: little easier for her ?
: 
: Thanks
: 
: --Theresa

One thing you could do is tie it open for a while, until she starts using
it. That worked for me the first time I put a cat door in for Circe.


Kathy
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: carter@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Carter Bennett)
Subject: Conversations with cats
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:13:07 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1992Sep3.060214.1720@walter.cray.com> bonni@snoid.cray.com (Bonni Ensminger) writes:
>Winston has an inverted version of this, more of an OW? as if he's asking a
>question.  In this mode, if I meow back, he'll answer,  over and over.:-)

Kepler and Einstein and I will have these conversations, too.  After doing
it regularly, we seem to have an elementary form of communications going.
Now that I think about it, it amazes me how specifically we can communicate
with these utterances.  In a way, it's much like the way one can train
animals to respond to English commands, but we're using THEIR vocal
patterns instead of mine.  That may make all the difference, since they
are cognizant that I'm actually trying to communicate and not just making
noises like the TV.  Rarely does a "comment" in feline go unanswered.

It's very difficult to describe the inflexions and dynamics (some are 
rather subtle differences from other phrases), but they have taught me 
several phrases (or perhaps I should say we've agreed to a few specific 
meanings).  Just off the top of my head, I'd guess that we have about ten
"words" in our vocabulary - some of which can be strung together to form
"sentences."

Has anyone else done this?  Has my potato been bakin' too long?

Carter R. Bennett, Jr. - Scientist      No matter where you go...
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From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: stained hardwood floors
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:16:40 -0500
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <59930@mimsy.umd.edu>, costello@cs.umd.edu (Lisa A. Costello) writes:
> Does anyone know of products that will clean urine-stained hardwood
> floors?  The floor is very badly damaged -- stained black, but the
> wood is still firm.  I'm willing to do just about anything to fix
> the floors, up to and including replacing them, if need be. (I'm sure
> my landlord would be glad to hear that!!)

Use an enzyme cleaner like Nature's Miracle, Outright, or any of the others
to remove the urine odor.  Then go to a good paint and varnish store
and ask about wood bleaches.  This will generally remove the black color.
Finally, the bleached area will probably be lighter than the area around it,
so you will then need to stain the spot and re-varnish (or polyurethane)

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: liana@nexus.yorku.ca (Liana Becker)
Subject: Re: Tail stood up straight, what's up??
Organization: York University, CS Dept. Toronto
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:10:36 GMT

Spirit tends to do this everytime I talk to her or walk by her when she
is standing.  Does this mean that this troublesome :) bundle of calico
is defering to me as her parent?  And what does it say if she has her
tail straight up but attacks my passing ankles....is this the 
"terrible twos" ?????  Better yet when her tail is straight up an
she scratchs at the persian rug, I believe it is "Mommy look at what
I can do!"

Liana & Spirit
From: ailsa%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Ailsa N.T. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: What kind of cats do I have?
Keywords: longish hair, hairy ears, silky undercoat, friendly, outdoors
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:24:14 GMT
Organization: Ailanthus Project

crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:

>
> You have ordinary domestic felines of the household pet variety.  Since there
> are no papers for any of them, they cannot be of any specific breed. They may
> look *similar* to a known breed, but to call them such would not be correct.
> Veterinarians often err in this respect.  They have been known to give breed
> names to cats that were nothing at all like the breed itself.
>
> So, in short, you have domestic longhair household pets.
>

oh balls.  the maine coon cat is just a mutt with an attitude.  breed papers
are just nice things to label somethign that already exists, in some cases.
and tha maine coon does not require some silly society to give it permission to
exist in particular.

                                           -ailsa

p.s. the maine coon cat predates the attempt to give it a breed standard..

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From: moe@rainier.lib.washington.edu (Joe Shippert)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: What do you think?
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:58:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug26.165859.3836
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington Libraries, Seattle

>clhoerth@david.wheaton.edu (Cathe L Hoerth) writes:

>> Which brings me, in a roundabout way, to my question - what are some of
>> your silliest pet names for your pet?

I try to avoid giving silly name for my pet but if you want some REALLY 
REALLY REALLY stupid names for cats just go to any cay show. I went to one
a couple weeks ago and I was almost ashamed to call myself a cat-lover in
association with these people. They're all pretty snobby too. I guess I'm
a cat lover while they're "cat fanciers".

-- 
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If you can't talk about it, point to it.
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From: echyatt@eos.ncsu.edu (EDWARD CRAIG HYATT)
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:10:05 GMT

In article <19048@vpk2.UUCP> jmckerro@attcan.UUCP (Janet McKerrow) writes:
>When our cats put their ears back (not flat back in anger, but just a
>bit back in a funny mood), we call it their "Spoonhead" because their
>ears look like backward spoons.
>
>I like "pronking" for the vertical jump (just like the antelopes).
>
> (edited)
>
>Janet
>
Kiki is a good-sized orange tabby who will box with
me!  I more or less dance around him and bat him
(gently) on the side of his face until he gets mad.
Eventually, he will rise up on his hind legs with
his front paws swinging as he attacks my kneecaps.
Curiously, he won't play like this if I'm wearing
long pants--only shorts.  Sometimes he will more
or less back off and then suddenly dash up to me,
take a nip, and then dash away.  I play with him
quite a bit, and sometimes a bit roughly, but he
seems to enjoy it and will sometimes initiate the
play by running up to me a giving me a playful bat.
He will also "kiss" me sometimes, especially when
I first come home, by giving me a short lick on
my bare calf, foot, toes, etc.  What a great buddy!

-Craig & Kiki
-- 
--------------------
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NCSU@Raleigh, NC USA
echyatt@eos.ncsu.edu
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From: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: cat and stove
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:49:08 GMT
Reply-To: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.pets.cats, ssieling@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sarah A Sieling) writes:
>One on my cats, Lola - about 5 years old, has suddenly started getting up on
>the stove when no one is around and urinating on the burner.  This is a
>electric stove so it is easy for her to sit on the cold burner.  Any one have
>any ideas about what is going on?  Nothing smells worse than hot cat pee.
>Everytime we use the stove we have to check the burner drip pans to make sure
>they are dry.  This is not a joke, it is really happening and we are just about
>at the end of our patience.

I thought I was the only one who has a cat that does this.  I found out the
hard way by turning on the burner.  A skunk smells better (well almost). 
O' Yogi Bear (2 yr male himalayan) is the one we have pin pointed.  We have
five, so we had to make sure.  He would do this when we would go away for
the weekend and not take him.  He would only pee once, but once is enough.
He was pissed, no pun intended, so he got even.  Mom touches the stove and
she didn't take me with her!!!!!.  We take a very large plastic bag lay it
over the stove and place containers on top.  He jumps up to get even, the
containers fall and scare the hell out of him.  It WORKS!!!!!  He hasn't
hit the stove for over a month now.  Try the bag trip and see if it works.
Of course one day my daughter ticked him off and Mom wasn't there to take
his side of it so he went on the stove. 

Good Luck.
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From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 04:19:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.170442.3650@vax.muskingum.edu> geschwent@vax.muskingum.edu writes:
>In article <ERICJ.92Aug21134729@lagos.cfsat.Honeywell.COM>, ericj@hwcae.Honeywell.COM (Eric Jacobsen) writes:
>> 
>> I call that the "quadriplegic cat" when it looks like a body sitting there with
>> no legs. My wife says "legless kitty" or "poor kitty has no legs"...
>> 
>
>I thought everyone called this "the meatloaf" :-)

Just to edify those one or two people who may not have heard of Kliban, his
book of cartoons named "Cat" defines same as:

	"One hell of a nice animal.  Frequently mistaken for a meatloaf."

One of the cartoons therein gives a visual depiction of the difference between
a cat and meatloaf.

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

"Love to eat them mousies,
 Mousies what I love to eat.
 Bite they little heads off,
 Nibble on they tiny feet."
From: dawn@umiacs.umd.edu (Dawn Vance)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Was (Please Help: I think my cat is ill)
Date: 30 Aug 92 18:21:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

I posted a plea for advise on Friday about my 4 y.o. female cat (mimi) who 
isn't eating or drinking along with a list of other noticeable changes in 
her behavior. I took her to the vet yesterday and have been given a rather 
large list of instructions for monitoring, and administering meds and food 
over the weekend including an instruction to drop her off at the vet's first
thing monday morning if the situation hasn't improved. I'd rather not have to
leave her there for x-rays, bloodwork, etc. We were able to eliminate feline 
leukemia. One thing that is extremely clear is that her gums are still inflamed
from the prophy done a week or so ago. Mimi let the 3 of us in the examining 
room know that she doesn't want anything or anyone prodding in or near her 
mouth.  :) 
 
 My problem is this. In addition to the 25 mg of Antirobe that I've been trying
to give her since her teeth were done, I now must force feed her SD a/d 
with a tablet of a crushed med. via syringe. I tried to put the dropper of 
Antirobe in the sac of her mouth this morning and only managed to get a small
amount actually IN her mouth. 

What do I do to hold her and at the same time try to place the syringe in 
her mouth without touching her gums? I don't have anyone to help me this
afternoon and this stuff has got to get into her system. The vet tech was
able to do it yesterday but had my help.

Since I've been told to closely monitor her throughout the weekend, I'm asking
that anyone else unfortunate enough to be relegated indoors on this beautiful
afternoon for suggestions. My MO so far has been to place her on the bathroom
sink counterspace to oppose traction, but this cat is stubborn. I can sense
that she doesn't want to scratch me, but will if I touch any sensitive area in
her mouth.

Thanks in advance for any rational advise. 

Dawn (What a great day for the outdoors) Vance
   
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: heidi@ucthpx.uct.ac.za (Heidi de Wet)
Subject: Re: Driving x-country w/ Cat. Suggestions?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 15:24:51 GMT
Organization: Dept of Elec Eng, UCT

calamity@acca.nmsu.edu (Calamity Jane) writes:
>John Tipshus (sauer@bluemoon.rn.com) wrote:
>: My 1.5 year old Nemisis female tabby will be with me while I drive 1,500 
>: miles cross country.  During short travel she freaks out completely.  Are 
>: there any suggestions before and during this journey?  
>
>Well, I have two cats, [...]
>The other one is impossible in the car, so I talked to my vet, and her 
>suggestion was to try tranquilizers...I have done this, and they worked
>fine...

_Always_ try tranq's out before the journey.  I tried this once, and
the cat in question got doped-up enough to be completely bewildered,
more noisy than ever, and incontinent into the bargain.  Took weeks
for the car to stop smelling!

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From: giordano@andromeda.rutgers.edu (E. Giordano)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: water
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:38:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

This is really funny that you mention this water-fetish thing,
we recently got a kitten about 5 weeks ago or so, she is now
3 months old and she also is fascinated with water. When my
husband shaves, she sits on the bathroom sink watching him.
Whenever I wash my face or use the bathroom sink she sits there
(eveen for hours) watching the water, of course we sometimes
let it trickle for her to watch. But even if she gets
splashed or wet--she loves it. Another cat we have will
run if he hears water running because he hates it!

We recently had to put to sleep a black cat we had, Joe,
and he loved to knock over the water bowl, just
a bit and sit and watch the water run, I had to buy
a heavy duty bowl that he could not knock over anymore.

I like the fact she likes water and toyed with the idea of giving her bath
so she would get used to it.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling)
Subject: Re: Driving x-country w/ Cat.  Suggestions?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 18:03:22 GMT

> 
> > My 1.5 year old Nemisis female tabby will be with me while I drive 1,500 
> > miles cross country.  During short travel she freaks out completely.  Are 
> > there any suggestions before and during this journey?  
> 

We just moved from Illinois to New Jersey in March and drove with our
cat who HATES being in the car.  It's a 16 hour drive.

First of all the vet gave me (for him) some mild tranquilizers.  I gave
Boo one about an hour prior to leaving.  We left at 8:30 at night.  
While it was dark out Boo slept on my lap.  (He hated the $50.00 cage I
bought for the trip).  We drove all night and once it got light out
I had to give him another pill - he got too shook up.  He rode the rest 
of the way under the seat of the van, coming out a couple of times to
use his box and get a drink and a nibble of food.

Also, Boo never wears a collar - he is a strictly indoor cat - but I 
bought one and got an engraved name tag with our phone and my parents 
phone numbers on it, along with his name.  He wore that the entire trip
(along with his rabies tag) just in case he 'slithered' out of the car.


Gayle 'wish I was back in Illinois' Kemmerling
E-mail address: gck@hector.cc.bellcore.com 
Morristown, N.J.
(201) 829-3950
From: wendy@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Wendy Milner)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:00:58 GMT
Subject: Re: Is there a compatable dog breed to get along with cats
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats


When getting a new dog in a house full of cats, start with
a puppy.  That way the puppy is smaller than the cats - for
a short time anyway, and you get to teach the dog that the
cats are off limits for playing.

As for a breed recomendation, get a Newfoundland.  They are
the most gentle of breeds.  This is true for the breed and
for individuals.  They are also great with children - will
never ever hurt one.  My Newfy Nova loved her cats.  They
would sleep together and play together.  Nova would run
around the house, Scamp would wait in hiding, Nova would
run by, Scamp would jump up, grab her neck with all her claws
and try to hang on as Nova continued running.  

Wendy
From: hamon@a.cs.okstate.edu (HAMON SHARON ANN)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: BROKEN TAIL!!??
Date: 26 Aug 92 02:24:03 GMT
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater

The kitten we rescued had a damaged tail.  The tip of it (about an inch)
was hanging by her spinal cord.  The vet snipped the tip off.  Afterwards,
the stump turned grayish and the hair fell out.  Eventually another half inch
just dropped off one day.  The tail seems okay now except the hair at the tip
grew in silver.  Looks odd on a tortie.  

For those of you who might have seen my post this past summer requesting
a good home for the kitten, we decided to keep her.  Her face and hips and
tail have all healed.  In fact she tears around so much that we named her
Taz after the Tazmanian Devil cartoons.  She terrorizes Sebastian and
irritates Mini, but they seem to get along pretty well.

Sharon Hamon
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats