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From: ns@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Nancy M. Schnepp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Need Jim Davis' address
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:46:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department

In article <1dvhftINN21a@agate.berkeley.edu> slouie@ocf.berkeley.edu 
(Shelley Louie) writes:
>> ns@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Nancy M. Schnepp) writes:
>>Does anyone have Garfield's creator, Jim Davis, address?
>
>Don't give it to her! Bomb threat! Bomb threat!!
>On the other hand, only a few well deserved deaths would occur...

Shelley, you must read too many comics.

Thanks to those who replied.

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From: kreme@nyx.cs.du.edu (Not A Random Name)
Subject: Re: sally forth's language
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 17:37:13 GMT

bjm@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Bret J. Musser) writes:

>kreme@nyx.cs.du.edu (Not A Random Name)
>>I think you might want to look up "anal retentive" as it does not mean
>>what you think it means.  It is not an insult (ie, it's not like calling
>>someone and asshole), it is a psychological term (ie, like calling someone
>>neurotic).
>>
>>Your ignorance is what offended you.


>    I have dropped more newsgroups than I can count because people
> were so abrasive and flame burners were always turned on.  I'm sure 
> most of you know what I mean.  Let's keep this newsgroup flame-free.

Gee, if you thought that was a flame it's a wonder you can read USENET
at all.,; sensative as you are.  I wasn't flaming you, just stating
the facts.


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From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: What is AWfWTW?
Date: 23 Nov 1992 15:42:53 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <matt.722531848@unidata.ucar.edu> matt@unidata.ucar.edu (Matt Hicks) writes:
>Well, what is it?

	A Wish For Wings That Work, a children's storybook (and TV special)
featuring the Outland characters by Berke Breathed.
From: ncramer@bbn.com (Nichael Cramer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Bloom County vs. Outland
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:40:27 GMT
Reply-To: ncramer@labs-n.bbn.com (Nichael Cramer)
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If we want to complete this tracing of the ancestry of these strips: When I
was at Univ of Texas in Austin ('78-80) Breathed had a strip in The Daily
Texan (the student paper) that was clearly an early proto-Bloom County.  It
was, of course, much more "college-oriented" (like the early Doonesbury)
and the weirder or non-human characters weren't around (e.g. Bill and Opus)
but many of the other characters (or their precursors) were and the style
was almost identical (although, incredible as it sounds, the drawing has
improved enormously  ;).

I don't remember the name of the strip (in fact, the only thing I remember
in detail is the brouhaha over the canceling of a strip in which the Steve
Dallas analogue said "fuck".)

N
From: csmith@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (craig edward smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: sally forth's language
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:36:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: cis.1992Nov15.213656.24969
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science

kreme@nyx.cs.du.edu (Not A Random Name) writes:
>>kreme@nyx.cs.du.edu (Not A Random Name)
>>>I think you might want to look up "anal retentive" as it does not mean
>>>what you think it means.  It is not an insult (ie, it's not like calling
>>>someone and asshole), it is a psychological term (ie, like calling someone
>>>neurotic).
>>>
>>>Your ignorance is what offended you.
>
>bjm@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Bret J. Musser) writes:
>>    I have dropped more newsgroups than I can count because people
>> were so abrasive and flame burners were always turned on.  I'm sure 
>> most of you know what I mean.  Let's keep this newsgroup flame-free.
>
>Gee, if you thought that was a flame it's a wonder you can read USENET
>at all.,; sensative as you are.  I wasn't flaming you, just stating
>the facts.

Look up the word "negro" some time. What it means in the dictionary is not
what it seems to mean to most people these days. I would not use the term
today since it would be considered derogatory, despite the fact that the
origin was not derogatory at all.

It cannot be argued, however, that Sally Forth used the term "anal retentive"
as anything but a derogatory remark, and since it referred to the anus, one
can rightly question its appropriateness in the comics.

To then state that "Your ignorance is what offened you," is incorrect, and
can rightly be considered a flame.

I was not offended, but it did raise my eyebrows. And I did NOT read it to
my six-year-old daughter, although I usually read Sally Forth to her.

--
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From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Bloom County vs. Outland
Date: 18 Nov 1992 14:55:48 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: na
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In article <lgkhubINNmig@news.bbn.com> ncramer@labs-n.bbn.com (Nichael Cramer) writes:
>
>If we want to complete this tracing of the ancestry of these strips: When I
>was at Univ of Texas in Austin ('78-80) Breathed had a strip in The Daily
>Texan (the student paper) that was clearly an early proto-Bloom County.  It
>was, of course, much more "college-oriented" (like the early Doonesbury)
>and the weirder or non-human characters weren't around (e.g. Bill and Opus)
>but many of the other characters (or their precursors) were and the style
>was almost identical (although, incredible as it sounds, the drawing has
>improved enormously  ;).
>
>I don't remember the name of the strip (in fact, the only thing I remember
>in detail is the brouhaha over the canceling of a strip in which the Steve
>Dallas analogue said "fuck".)

	Wasn't this "The Academia Waltz"?  About eight or so of them were
reprinted in "Classics of Western Literature"; Breathed said those were the
only ones where he wouldn't be charged with libel or obscenity.

							-Jay


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From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: Finding the good Calvin (was Re: Calvin's multiple personalities)
Reply-To: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 10:48:45 GMT

Raymond Suke Flournoy writes
>> Does anyone remember the duplicator that Calvin used to make
>> a 'good' version of himself that was a total sap, to use
>> Calvin's wording? ...
> 
>  Has this series of strips been included in a collection yet?

_Scientific Progress Goes 'Boink'_, out last year.

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From: yarnot@babbage.csus.edu (Jan Yarnot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: More non-family in Sally Forth
Date: 23 Nov 92 05:51:37 GMT
Organization: Moi?

In article <1enc41INN5c1@tamsun.tamu.edu> bell@cs.tamu.edu (Will Bell) writes:
>Someone posted awhile back about use of the term "Anal-Retentive" in 
>Sally Forth.  Now it's debatable whether or not the author was trying
>to be a little risque in this strip.
>
>However, in today's strip, where Sally pays a $10 "No Crack" fee (so that
>the repairman would wear a long shirt so that you can't see his crack when
>he bends over) definitely was a eyebrow-raiser, for me anyway.
>
>I didn't talk like that until I was, oh, 10 or 11 anyway.  At our house
>"Crack" was in the same bad-word category as "damn" and "hell" and maybe 
>"crap".
>
Well, you're a grownup now, right?  I thought this one was hilarious.
And it's a LOT more obscene to see it than to say it, in my opinion.
>
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From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Calvin's multiple personalities
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:15:56 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp) writes:
>  It was my undertansding that Calvin found Hobbes.  He supposedly "caught"
>him in a trap (this led to a talk with his dad on what to do with a wild
>tiger).  I personally translated it into Calvin found a stuffed tiger and
>imagined he caught=it.  Hobbes is a tiger because that is the stuffed animal
>Calvin caught.  

Plus it doesn't have all the legal problems of, say, a Snoopy or
Garfield doll.
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From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Fame and Immortality are Mine!!!
Date: 15 Nov 92 23:56:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov15.235609.27737
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

Sorry, but to be truly immortal, you have to be satirized by Doonesbury.
While I have heard of the Funny Times, I have not heard of the strip.
Perhaps you should send a press release to the Comics Buyer's Guide.
And by the way, you have 2:07 left on your fifteen minutes of fame.

Torsten at Omaha
From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Mort's Alive
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:03:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov16.000305.27918
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

bn823@cleveland.Freenet.Edu  writes:
> In a previous article, matt@unidata.ucar.edu (Matt Hicks) says:
> >dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler) writes:
> >the guy who used to draw Hi & Lois (Mort Walker?) died a year or so ago and
> >his strips are being drawn by his sons. Could be the punishment changed
> >Matthew  B.  Hicks     | Unidata Program Center | ((ovo))  The spotted owl:
> Mort Walker is alive, or at least someone is using his signature on Beatle
> Bailey.  Browne is the family for Hi and Lois.
	Mort Walker does not draw Hi and Lois.  Dik Browne used to, and one of
his sons now does.
	Mort Walker was just in Columbia, Missouri, for the dedication of a 
Beetle Bailey statue on the U.Missouri campus.  Some of you might remember
Beetle Bailey as a student before he registered (?) during the Korean War.
Lois is Beetle's sister.

Torsten at Omaha
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From: jefft@athena.mit.edu (Jeff Tang)
Subject: Re: Bloom County vs. Outland
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:11:58 GMT



In article <1992Nov17.061904.1739@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> schan@nyx.cs.du.edu () writes:

   3) Did Bloom County have a real ending?  (Like did everyone move away
   or something?  Or croak?)

Yes.  The end of the strip was mentioned months ahead of time, and the last
month or was a wrap up of things.

   4) Besides Opus, what other characters survive into Outland?

Ronald-ann, and more recently Bill the Cat.   It also seems he's
ressurected the Jones family.

   5) Where does Outland happen?  Is it just Bloom County some years
   later, or is it somewhere completely different?

"Outland" is sort of an escape world that Ronald-Ann had from inner city life.


   6) Are there any Outland books?

Yes.  One was released about a month ago. I forget the title.

   7) Can someone please ID the main characters?

I'm not really clear that Outland has main characters at this point. It's
pretty aimless.



   Thanks.



--
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jefft@athena.mit.edu
From: wlamonac@purcell.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Li'l Abner
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:51:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov16.225158.22963
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

In article <1e4idfINN76s@mozz.unh.edu> ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink) writes:
>
>Li'l Abner is (arguably, but IMHO) the best strip ever made -- too bad there
>isn't anything like it today.  Anyway, some publishing company started the
>project of publishing the complete Li'l Abner -- in 59 volumes or so -- both
>the Sundays and the dailies.  I don't know if they succeeded with this
>project or not, but I do know that they got at least as far as volumes 7, 8,
>and 9.  I've read them.
>
>Does anybody know more about this; like what publishing company is doing this,
>whether they've quit or not; when each volume is supposed to come out, if they
>are still going, etc...?  Any info would be appreciated.
>-- 
>Samuel Stoddard, the Weapons Master           JESUS IS LORD!!  HALLELUJAH!!!!!
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in
>   thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
>*=----                      --=* Romans  10:9 *=--                      ----=*

As far as I know, the volumes are still being published.  (The dailies anyway).
They are up to Vol. 13 or 15 (I forget).  I have the complete collection thus
far, and I concur- they are wonderful.  The publishing company is Kitchen Sink
and they offer a subscription service for the series so that you can get volumes
at considerably less than cover price.

I don't know when they plan to release the Sunday collections, but they have
released two volumes of Fearless Fosdick episodes that are amusing, but
not as good as the regular Li'l Abner continuity.

		-Bill
From: aa396@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill Henley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Calvin's multiple personalities.
Date: 19 Nov 1992 01:15:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Hey, folks, give Eduardo (the original poster on this topic)
a break!  Some people have fun just reading a comic strip,
others have fun analyzing it.  It's analogous to the Baker Street
Irregulars, who know perfectly well that Sherlock Holmes is a
fictional character, but have fun writing his biography as if
he were a real person and trying to explain tiny little
discrepancies in the Conan Doyle stories.

-- 
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& Fantasy SIG (aa396)
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Subject: Re: Calvin's multiple personalities
From: wright@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Michael G. Wright)
Date: 16 Nov 92 02:07:39 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

Does anyone remember the duplicator that Calvin used to make a 'good' version
of himself that was a total sap, to use Calvin's wording? This 'good' Calvin
was seen by his Mom, went to school and talked to Susie (and liked her!).
Perhaps there is something in this multiple personality thought, because it
had to be Calvin acting this one out. Hmmm....

-- 
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From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp)
Subject: Re: Calvin's multiple personalities
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:16:46 GMT

>      I just wonder why Calvin doesn't have a lion - they're more fierce than
> tigers.  Now this is a real analytical one - why is Hobbes a tiger?
> Why not a lion?  Or a dinosaur?

  It was my undertansding that Calvin found Hobbes.  He supposedly "caught"
him in a trap (this led to a talk with his dad on what to do with a wild
tiger).  I personally translated it into Calvin found a stuffed tiger and
imagined he caught=it.  Hobbes is a tiger because that is the stuffed animal
Calvin caught.  

			Fippster 6

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From: john@chance.gts.org (John R MacMillan)
Subject: Re: Calvin's multiple personalities.
Organization: $HOME
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:09:23 GMT

|I may be wrong, but it seems to me there is a very good posibility that 
|Calvin suffers from multiple personality disorder.

I used to wonder about this, and whether Hobbes was ``real'', and
whether the Duplicator worked, and the time machine, and...

In the end I decided we can't really know, and it doesn't really
matter.  Hobbes is certainly real to Calvin, but stuffed to everyone
else.  The time machine worked for Calvin and Hobbes, but the camera
just got plastic dinosaurs on the lawn.

Not to get too metaphysical, but it's hard to tell if _anything_ is
real, so you basically just trust your senses and go with that.

|As I said, I may be wrong, but this does explain lots of things .
|Should anyone tell Waterson ?

Perhaps Calvin and Hobbes are merely two of Waterson's personalities.
From: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Calvin's multiple personalities
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:14:44 GMT
Reply-To: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, pearse@warren1a.its.rpi.edu (Eric E. Pearson) says:

>	I've heard a lot of people talking about whether Calvin has multiple
>personalities(Hobbes as one of these?).  To this I say:
>
>	Fer cryin' out loud, it's a COMIC STRIP!  Yer not supposed to analyze
>it in-depth.  Simply enjoy it.  You'll get more out of it.

     Yeah, and besides, I'd diagnose it as a form of hyperactivity known
as Attention Deficit Disorder. :-)
     Seriously, if Calvin has multiple personalities, then so do all of
us.  Heck, every kid I know has a creature like a tiger that they treat
as a friend, especially if they don't have any other brothers or sisters.
I have a collection of over 100 dogs from when I was a kid, and they had
their own country, practically.
     I just wonder why Calvin doesn't have a lion - they're more fierce than
tigers.  Now this is a real analytical one - why is Hobbes a tiger?
Why not a lion?  Or a dinosaur?
-- 
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thy heart...*and thy neighbor as: & support, 'cause Heaven is just a great
thyself*." Deut. 6:5            : big hug that lasts forever and ever!!!"
From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Bloom County vs. Outland
Date: 17 Nov 1992 13:13:27 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: na
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In article <1992Nov17.061904.1739@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> schan@nyx.cs.du.edu () writes:

>3) Did Bloom County have a real ending?  (Like did everyone move away
>or something?  Or croak?)
	Yes, after Donald Trump (who had had his brain transplanted into Bill
The Cat's body) bought the strip, everyone was fired and moved on to different
jobs (Oliver in The Family Circus, Milo in The Far Side, Hodgepodge & Portnoy
behind the scenes in Marmaduke), while Opus stayed in Bloom County with Ronald-
Ann for a week before she left for Outland.

>4) Besides Opus, what other characters survive into Outland?
	Ronald-Ann and Bill are there on a regular basis; Steve Dallas and
Oliver occasionally drop by, and Binkley's been there once (but he'd changed).

>5) Where does Outland happen?  Is it just Bloom County some years
>later, or is it somewhere completely different?
	Outland is a fantasy world that Ronald-Ann retreats to when her home
in BC's inner city gets her depressed.  In the early strips there was a door
by which characters would drop into Outland (literally - it was eight feet in
the air and had no floor on either side in Outland), but I haven't seen that
lately.

>6) Are there any Outland books?
	Yes, the first collection of strips was just released (Politically,
Fashionably, and Aerodynamically Incorrect); there have also been two 
childrens' storybooks (last year's A Wish For Wings That Work and the very-
recent-just-released-last-week-or-so The Last Basselope).

	While I've mentioned that, does anyone know if there's going to be a
Last Basselope TV special, like there was for AWfWTW?  Amblin' did such a good
job on the first that I really want to see a second.

>7) Can someone please ID the main characters?

	Besides Ronald-Ann, Opus, and Bill there's a pig named Truffles; the
little=known brother of Mickey Mouse (Mortimer) appeared in the early strips
but hasn't been highly visible since.  In the introduction to PFAI, Breathed
mentions that one of the amusing things he saw in Outland was how quickly (and
inevitably) it became like Bloom County.

							-Jay



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From: thedens@fangio.cipl.uiowa.edu (Dan Thedens)
Subject: Re: Calvin's multiple personalities
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:56:22 GMT
Organization: Cardiovascular Image Processing Lab, U of Iowa

If we're performing medical diagnoses on Calvin, I would 
suggest that he may have a glandular disorder as well.
His head has grown to be as large as the whole of the rest
of his body.

Dan Thedens
thedens@fangio.cipl.uiowa.edu
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From: schan@nyx.cs.du.edu ()
Subject: Bloom County vs. Outland
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 06:19:04 GMT


I just read a few old Bloom County books someone let me borrow,
and while I was trying to remember how many books there were,
it suddenly hit me that Outland was the successor to the strip and is
still part of the Sunday comics.  Well, since I really don't know
anything about the newer strip, and have forgotten quite a few things
about the old one, I decided to ask here.

1) When exactly did Bloom County end?  Was it sometime in 88 or 89?

2) How many books collect the strip?

3) Did Bloom County have a real ending?  (Like did everyone move away
or something?  Or croak?)

4) Besides Opus, what other characters survive into Outland?

5) Where does Outland happen?  Is it just Bloom County some years
later, or is it somewhere completely different?

6) Are there any Outland books?

7) Can someone please ID the main characters?


Thanks.
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From: matt@unidata.ucar.edu (Matt Hicks)
Subject: What is AWfWTW?
Organization: Scientific Computing Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:17:28 GMT

Well, what is it?


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From: macdevil@netlink.cts.com (Leonard Cayetano)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Dilbert...
Date: 19 Nov 92 03:22:51 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

Who is the author?  My local paper a few months ago discontinued 
publishing the comic, and I remember seeing a Dilbert book out at 
Bookstar a few weeks ago (didn't buy it at the time and regret it now).  
 
Thanks to all who help.

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