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From: philip@concave.cs.wits.ac.za (Philip Machanick)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: South African Broadcasting Company Information Needed
Date: 4 Jan 93 12:13:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: shannon.1993Jan4.121312.8206
Organization: Computer Science Dept, Wits University
X-Xxdate: Mon, 4 Jan 93 13:47:53 GMT
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In article <Jan.2.23.35.08.1993.16638@andromeda.rutgers.edu> David De
Trolio, detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu writes:
>I would also be interested in any information or discussion of
>talk radio in SA.  It is very powerful and popular here in the
>United States, especially in my area of New Jersey/New York City.
>I am curious if it is as open and as heated as it often becomes
>around here.

Radio 702, a private station, is the only one I know of in SA that
has extensive talk shows. It has phone in lines almost every day
of the week and it does get very heated, but suprisingly not as
often as you might expect. 702 exists technically in the
Bophutatswana "homeland" to evade SA media regulations which
prevent private stations from existing without government
permission, but it exists mainly for the Johannesburg region. (The
government has never given permission to my knowledge.) Interestingly,
despite the fact that its medium wave transmission is only designed
for the a small area, calls sometimes come in from as far away as
Cape Town.

702's political reporting and discussion is a vast improvement over
the SABC, with comment and interviews involving extra-parliamentary
parties even before the 1990 unbanning.

Unfortunately, the SABC still essentially still has a news monopoly
on television. The only private station permitted is a subscription
channel called M-Net, and it isn't allowed to do news.

One of the most heated topics recently on 702 was the supposed APLA
policy of attacks on whites. An APLA leader based in Tanzania was on
for an hour or so, and after he left, a couple of callers claiming to
be PAC/APLA supporters called in and said this was wonderful - more
whites should be killed. I would have liked to have heard the APLA
leader's response because he had strongly denied that this was their
policy.

Some other interesting programmes in recent times:
o chief executive of National Sorghum Breweries, the largest black-
  run company in the country, with a turnover of around R500-million
o head of ACHIB, association of hawkers, informal business etc.
o Stoffel van der Merwe, former National Party minister etc. - he
  resigned from the government soon after

At this time of year, there are relatively few programmes directed at
a specific topic because most people are on vacation.

Tonight I believe Ronnie Kasrils of the ANC will be the guest.

There are also service programmes, such as law, medical,
labour etc., usually with a fairly expert person giving advice,
discussing issues, etc.
--
Philip Machanick                   philip@concave.cs.wits.ac.za
Department of Computer Science, University of the Witwatersrand
2050 Wits, South Africa
phone 27(11)716-3759 fax 27(11)339-7965
From: f54oguocha@edison.usask.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: THE RANTINGS OF Mr. TEKLE & Co
Date: 12 JAN 93 23:16:00 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: edison.usask.ca



Dear S.C.A. Readers,
two days ago, one of our Ethiopian colleagues on this network reported
about the demonstrations and the attendant killings at the Addis Ababa
university. i wrote a rejoinder to this report, just like many other
interested readers. since then, many Ethiopians who did not like my
comments on the report have been overloading my mail directory with
threats of all kind as if i caused the downfall of Mengistu and his
bloody-thirsty errand boys, of which i suspect they(the writers) were
beneficiaries (of Mengistu's regime). you all can still recollect that
the guy who posted the news report has since officially withdrawn the said
report because of the fallacies and inuendoes it contained.

well, all i want Mr Tekle and his likes on this network  to know is that 
they cannot squeeze truth out of this network. threats are not new to me,
no matter how they come. this network is not for biased reports and any
report of that nature must be summarily discredited as soon as possible.
those interested in propaganda should tune to the appropriate newsgroup.
we are here to discuss Africa and issues of African interest, not sectional 
interests. Below is one such annoying letters.
thank you.
oguocha.


>From:	SKYCAT::IN%"tekle@bruin.informix.com" 12-JAN-1993 13:32:53.13
>To:	IN%"f54oguocha@edison.usask.ca"
>CC:	
>Subj:	
>You better shut up!  Matters concerning ethiopians are none of your
>business.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL
From: aali@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:33:43 CST
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax1.umkc.edu

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL! --------:)
From: pmwanik@cadev5.intel.com (Peter Mwaniki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: Help finding internet addresses
Keywords: kenya,internet
Date: 5 Jan 93 20:54:40 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA

In article <1993Jan5.100022.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> helpdesk@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>
>	Hi there,
>
>I'm a student consultant at the Wesleyan University Computing Center. A grad
>student in biology sent a request for email addresses for the University of
>Nairobi and the International Lab for Research on Animal Diseases, also in
>Nairobi, Kenya. I have been unable to find any sort of internet address for
>these two places- is there anyone out there who happens to know either address?
>He didn't specify what department he wanted the address for at the University
>of Nairobi, so I'll assume he wants the biology department email address.
>Anyone's help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
>
>                                                           Adrienne D. Fargas
>                                                           WCC Helpdesk 

Adrienne,

try this address:
Shem_Ochuodho@f4.n731.z5.gnfido.fidonet.org

biology department and the international lab for research on animal
deseases do not have a network connection, but there is a fella down
there professor shem ochuodho who single handedly wanna change all
this. he want to put kenya on the internet and he has been trying
to connect various departments especially at the university of nairobi
into some local area network, he has also been trying to connect
various research and institutions of higher learning in a network.
he has so far connected moi university, kenyatta university and
a few other institutions. he is now begging for modems even 1200
baud ones.  if your friend want a quick connection and is important
he/she may have to provide a modem ( that would be the fastest way )
and shem will connect immediately.

for the time being, you could only send mail via shem, he is at ics
( institute of computer science ) at the university of nairobi )
which is on the same campus with the biology department.

there is no internet connection to kenya, they use dial-ups, this 
may change in the near future. send shem an e_mail to work out
details if you wish to persue any further. 


------                     
Peter Mwaniki,                e_mail: pmwanik@scdt.intel.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: mukasa@panix.com (Michael K Mukasa)
Subject: Re: Mweene's Anti-Semitism
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:27:44 GMT

In <1993Jan12.154943.2877@ucthpx.uct.ac.za> gavan@elc.mth.uct.ac.za (Gavan Tredoux) writes:

>pmmst8+@pitt.edu (Paul M Mweene) writes:
>: In article (Bill Ross) writes:
>: >        Robert D. Kaplan , _New Republic_, Dec 28 1992
>: 
>:   Please desist from quoting this ill informed racist Jewish magazine here.
>                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>Another slip from none other than Mwop Mweene. Bigot extroadinaire!
>Not being Jewish myself, I pass this on. Can we arrange for
>Mweene to be deported to Lebanon too? 

>Sigh, pity. Maybe Liberia?

>Gavan Tredoux
>UCT 

How does saying a magazine is racist and then noting the ethnic focus of
the magazine make one a bigot???.  If there was a racist White South African
magazine (I am sure Gavan calls them normal reading material), and I
called it such would that make me a bigot??.

Kiggundu.

P.S Since you prescribe to deporting people, How about Africans starting
to deport non indegenous people from the African continent.  Starting with
the White South Africans.
:-) :-)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta)
Subject: ANGOLA: Savimbi on the run...
Organization: Indiana University, Department of Mathematics.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:20:06 GMT


From AP:

   Leader Of Besieged Angolan Rebels   
     Seeks U.S.-Brokered Cease-Fire    
                 ---
    LUANDA, Angola - Rebel leader Jonas
Savimbi asked the U.S. to help negoti-
ate a cease-fire after his troops were
defeated this week in two major cities.
    He asked the U.S. to arrange talks
between rebel and government leaders by
Friday, Jeffrey Davidow, a U.S.
diplomat told Voice of America radio.
    Government troops besieged
Savimbi's rebel headquarters in central
Angola Thursday.
    During the Cold War, the U.S.
backed Savimbi's forces in the war with
the formerly Marxist ruling party,
which was backed by the Soviet Union.
    Prime Minister Marcolino Moco
called Savimbi's cease-fire offer
''welcome - but probably only another
UNITA show.''
    Speaking on Portuguese TSF radio,
Moco said Parliament would meet next
week to consider imposing emergency
decrees to try to control the fighting.
    The conflict has killed thousands
of people the last 10 weeks.
    Government troops shelled UNITA
positions in Huambo, Savimbi's base,
320 miles east of Luanda, Angolan
national radio reported.
    Several UNITA commanders were
captured and their forces defeated in
the ports of Benguela and Lobito after
2 days of street fighting and heavy
shelling claimed 1,000 lives in
Benguela alone, the radio reported.
    Fighting broke out Oct. 31 after
UNITA refused to accept defeat in
September's multi-party elections.
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From: kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta)
Subject: Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL
Organization: Indiana University, Department of Mathemtics.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 01:20:58 GMT

In article <C0M1p7.Fw9@ns1.nodak.edu> varvel@plains.NoDak.edu (Andrew Varvel) writes:



>You either live in a world of delusions or you are a liar.

I flatly refuse to deny the charges...:-) :-)

>This was not a flame, at least not in comparison to the vomit that emanates
>from my ancestral homeland.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Since when did your mouth become your "ancestral homeland"..?? We may not be
dealing with an ordinary rednecKKK here folx....


>--Andrew Varvel--
>
>The truth hurts, doesn't it?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The *trut* can be extraordinarily misleading unless interpreted correctly...

kauta - mercilessly being slaughtered by a determined rednecKKK..:-) :-) :-)


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From: alakew@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Abiye Lakew)
Subject: Ethiopia: Massacre at Addis Ababa University
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 20:21:15 GMT


Reports out of Addis Ababa indicate that there has been a random shooting of
students demonstrating the planned visit of UN General Secretary Boutros
Boutros Ghali to Eriteria.

Government forces shot and killed about 12 students and injured more than 100.
It was reported that some students of Eritrean and Tigrean origins
participated in the killing using assault knives and pistols. This atrocity
occured at the campus of the Addis Ababa University.

Sources indicate that the ruling party EPRDF ( Ethiopian Peoples Revolutionary
Democratic Front) actively prevented the injured from receiving medical
attention.

EPRDF is mainly dominated by TPLF (Tigrean Peoples Libration Front) and has
been working with the EPLF ( Eritrean Peoples Liberation Front) to facilitate
the independance of Eritrea and the dismemberment of Ethiopia along ethnic
lines.

In related news the leader of the Provisional Government of Eriteria and
chairman of EPLF Mr. Issayas Afwerki has died in Israel due to cerebral
malaria. This was reported on Jan 10, 93 (sunday) on Addis Ababa radio.
From: IMAGING.CLUB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Imaging Club")
Subject: What's going on in Kenya
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:06:36 GMT

Would anyone have a local perspective as to what is really
going on in Kenya?

Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta)
Subject: Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL
Organization: Indiana University, Department of Mathematics.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 06:41:48 GMT

In article <C0E8qE.Epo@ns1.nodak.edu> the rednecKKK from N. DaKKKota writes:

[....]
>laughable.  You should really try to know what you're talking about here.
>My family has been on the *other* (read: victimized) side of Klan and 
>Klan-like activity.

You can't be that stupid! Next time you get hassled by the klan, try 
reminding them you are one of them. If this doesn't help, contact David Duke.
He might suggest you cut some hair off your back to show more *NECK*....

[the list containing 12 days of a rednecKKK's Xmas deleted]

>He forgot the hunting rifle, the potato chips, and the National Enquirer for
>his wife!

He? You mean *me*?? I am not even married! As for *you*, your 10 incestuous 
cousins are callin' ya...Yet another Xmas wish granted.

HAVE A WONDERFUL NEW YEAR.
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From: zbtst+@pitt.edu (Zeru B Tekie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: Ethiopia: Massacre at Addis Ababa University
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:07:34 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1993Jan11.190037.4490@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> alakew@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Abiye Lakew) writes:
>Jan 11, 1993
>
>I posted on Jan 10, 1993 about the death of Issayas Afwerki due to
>cerebral malaria, although I received this news from different sources
>I have now received information to the contrary.
>
>Therefore  disregard my posting about this news until a more reliable source
>confirms it one way or the other.


I am glad you disregard your posting which is based on lies and fantasy. Yes Issayas is hospitalized in Israel and his illness is not life threatening. He is recovering very well, infact he is due to go back home(Eritrea) in this week. I hope this incident has showed subscribers the incredibility of News which being posted by you and your look alikes. Finally I would like to tell you and your supporters that Eritrea has more than 3.5 million Isseyases and the independence of Eritrea based on the will and d



esire of Eritrean people(which is going to be reflected through the referendum in April) is inevitable.
From: mukasa@panix.com (Michael K Mukasa)
Subject: Re: WC QUALIFIERS - AFRICA Groups B & C
Organization: Panix, NYC
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:52:05 GMT

In <1993Jan11.131326.20284@emr1.emr.ca> halchuk@seismo.emr.ca (Steve Halchuk) writes:

>Results from WC qualifiers - Africa Groups B & C

>Africa Group B

>10 Jan   Zaire 1 - Cameroon 2  (rescheduled from Dec 20)

>		P W D L  F  A Pts
>Cameroon	2 2 0 0  7  1  4    
>Zaire		3 1 0 2  5  5  2    
>Swaziland	2 1 0 1  1  5  2
>Liberia		1 0 0 1  2  4  0

>Africa Group C

>10 Jan   Angola 1 - Zimbabwe 1  (rescheduled from Oct 25) 

>		P W D L  F  A Pts
>Zimbabwe	3 2 1 0  4  2  5    
>Egypt		3 2 0 1  6  3  4    
>Angola		2 0 1 1  1  2  1
>Togo		2 0 0 2  1  5  0

>Swaziland v. Liberia was also to be played Jan 10 (it had been postponed
>from Dec 20). Does anyone have a result or has it been rescheduled yet again?

>Thanks
>Stephen
>---
> +============+     | S. Halchuk, halchuk@seismo.emr.ca
> |  o \0\     |}    |"I've never been asked, 
> |      \     | }   | And I've never replied
> |      \\    |  }  | If I supported Glasgow Rangers" :-) The Pogues
>                     




Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta)
Subject: Re: One Settler, One Bullet
Organization: Indiana University, Department of Mathematics.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:05:32 GMT

In article <11JAN199313112780@jane.uh.edu> lib1p@jane.uh.edu (Tammy Stark Blandino) writes:
>In article <C0nxMq.7qn@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta) writes...
>>In article <C0nqsH.C7p@ns1.nodak.edu> varvel@plains.NoDak.edu (Andrew Varvel) writes:
>> 
>>[a long ceremony on the mount deleted]

>Or is it just that you find yourself caught with your own argument being
>successfully used against you so well that even you cannot do a comeback?
>
>If the spirit is willing then the flesh does not matter......or are you
>afraid that your long held beliefs will be destroyed?

What are these arguments of mine you are refering to?? How can you interrupt
so rudely into a thread about which you know nothing?? Have you read my
postings before??

>And before you refer to me as a RednecKKK, I want you to know that I have
>spent many an hour DEFENDING YOU against RednecKKKs.  I realise that you
>are incapable of appreciating that, but that is o.k.....even you are
>worth it.  Something to do with you being a living-breathing-human being.
>Although you seem to be trying to prove that statement false.
>
>Tammy

Pray tell, who are you??!! RednecKKK is the rednecKKK from North Dakota, also
known as Andrew Varvel. He flames me all the time on soc.culture.african. He
cross-posted this thread to alt.native as well. And when did you ever protect
me against rednecKKKs??? Do I need your protection?? Have your brains gone
radioactive???

Next time know what the heck you are doing on USENET before you make a fool of
yourself!

Kauta. Very amused. Thanks for putting a smile on my face, rednecKKK.

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From: pcs_mbei@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: CAMEROON: Mandat Prsidentiel et Partis Politiques
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:42:29 GMT

Dans un effort d'apporter ma trs modeste contribution  la situation politique
du Cameroun, j'aimerais faire deux modestes propositions. En effet, la vie
politique au Cameroun a atteint, dpuis des annes, des proportions telles que
les tenants du pouvoir (politique) n'ont plus honte de franchir le ridicule.
Ainsi, un seul individu--comme cela est le cas dans la quasi totalit des Etats
Africains et les pays jadis sous la botte communiste gouverne indfiniment,
jusqu' ce que mort en survienne, ou que, dans certains cas, les militaires
affams (ou dsireux de simplement tenter leur aventure politique) se
saisissent du pouvoir. N'est-il pas temps, au moments o les Camerounais
de bonne volont se battent pour l'avnement d'une socit dmocratique, 
que l'on pense aussi  rectifier le tir en ce qui concerne le mandat
prsidentiel, et le nombre de partis politques authoriss--constitution-
nellement  exister ?

S'agissant du mandat prsidentiel, ma modeste suggestion voudrait qu'aprs la
rvision de la constitution, il ne soit permit au Prsident de la rpublique
qu'un maximum de 2  3 mandats. C'est--dire, si la dure du mandat est
fix  5 ans, la seule personne ne purrait gouverner que 10 ans. Ainsi 
la fin du second mandat, le Prsident sortant ne pourrait plus se reprsenter
aux lections pour un troisime mandat. Je trouve extrmement insultant,
arrogant, que le mme individu gouverne des millions d'mes, comme si Dieu
n'avait pas dot les autres des mmes aptitudes intellectuelles.

Par ailleurs, le Cameroun, comme la plupart des Etats africains, a plus de
50 groupes ethniques (50 est le minimum). Comme cela est le cas actuellement
au Cameroun, les partis politiques ont tendances  se former selon les
affinits tribales, ou tout au moins, regionales. Il n'est donc pas 
surprenant qu'actuellement, on dnombre plus de 50 partis politiques au
Cameroun. 50 partis politiques, pour un pays de 12 millions d'mes, n'est-ce
ridicule ? La dmocratie serait-elle synonyme d'une kyrielle de partis 
politiques ? J'admets qu'elle n'est ni synonyme de parti unique, dont j'ai
du rest horreur. Afin donc de minimiser le facteur tribal, ou rgional,
et de cultiver au Cameroun un vrai sentiment national, mon avis  moi est 
qu'il serait de temps de non seulement rviser la constitution nationale,
mais aussi limiter (constitutionnellement) le nombre de partis politiques
qui seraient authoriss  exister. Peut-tre 2,3,4,5 partis, cela ne ferait
aucun mal aux politiciens.

J'aimerais lire vos opinions  ce propos. 

Poppi 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.medicine,chi.general
From: ndallen@r-node.pci.on.ca
Subject: Searle Donates $500,000 in Medicine for Relief Efforts in Somalia
Organization: Echo Beach, Toronto
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:02:24 GMT

Here is a press release from Searle and U.S. Senator Paul Simon.

 Answering Sen. Simon's Appeal, Searle Donates $500,000 in Medicine
for Relief Efforts in Somalia
 To: National Desk
 Contact: David Carle of U.S. Sen. Paul Simon's Office, 202-224-7115,
          or Kay Bruno of Searle, 708-470-6781

   WASHINGTON, Jan. 7 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Chicago-based Searle will
donate more than 500,000 units of antibiotics and other critically
needed medicines to relief efforts in Somalia, according to an
announcement today by Searle and U.S. Sen. Paul Simon (D-Ill.).
   Searle responded to Simon's appeal to Illinois firms in December,
soon after the arrival of U.S. forces in Somalia, for medicines that
can be used to save lives there.  Searle's is the earliest response
to the letters.
   Richard U. DeSchutter, Searle's president, made the announcement
on behalf of the company, which is headquartered in Skokie.
   Simon, with Sen. Nancy Kassebaum (R-Kans.), has led Senate actions
on Somalia for more than a year.  Simon chairs the Subcommittee on
African Affairs of the Foreign Relations Committee and visited
Somalia late last year.  His visit is credited as being part of the
process that led to the administration's commitment of troops to
Somalia.
   "This is an extremely generous donation that will make a real
difference," said Simon.  "Illinois is proud that leading corporate
citizens like Searle continue to set examples for others to follow."
   Searle's donation has a wholesale value of about $500,000,
according to Simon.
 -30-
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