From: mykes@shell.portal.com (mike myke schwartz)
Subject: Re: Bush's Pardons
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 12:05:20 GMT

William C. Barwell (popec@unkaphaed.gbdata.com) wrote:
: mykes@shell.portal.com (mike myke schwartz) writes:
: 
: > No, the argument is that they are doing it too, and should be equally harasse
: > Fair is fair :)
: 
: 
: Well, if it's OK to pardon Perjurers, Criminals, and Lawbreakers that 
: aided and abetted Bush & Reagan in their illegal schemes, It should then 
: be OK that the others get off too, huh?  Fair is fair, now ain't it?

2 times, Weinberger was brought up on charges of obstructing congress, and
two times, the charges were thrown out by the judge.  Not on appeals, either.

Now, consider why the president has the power of the pardon.  I'll tell you
my opinion:  to undo miscarriage of justice.

If clinton chose to pardon people, I would accept it.  He may even pardon
Bush :)

:   But that ain't what you seem to argue for.  I hope personally, that 
: Walsh hangs bush's ass on a stick.   

I hope Walsh hangs YOUR ass on a stick.  How does it feel?

: To excuse the massive lawbreaking of 
: the White House by whining about other alledged acts of criminality is 
: stupid.  The Ketaing 5 is a good example.  Wrist slaps for 4 senators and 
: a rebuke for the one (CRanston), leaving office anyway.  But that DOES 
: NOT excuse the perjuries, criminal acts, coverups and pardons of the 
: White House.  

Committing a truly heinous crime, such as murder, does not excuse an unruly
and lawless mob from stringing the accused from the nearest tree, either
(without due process!).

As for the Keating 5 and countless other scandals committed by OUR government,
I only suggest that we be fair and sick a maddog persecutor on ALL of them.
I argue that justice/injustice should be even handed and blind to party
politics.

: To say it does which essentially is your view is morally 
: corrupt.  Now you don't want people on the net to think you are morally 
: corrupt and want the White House Creeps to actually get away with their 
: morally corrupt dirty tricks, do you?
: 

No, I don't want to see anyone in government, congress or the whitehouse
or supreme court or the local town mayor get away with crimes.  I was GLAD
to see Nixon resign for that very reason.  But your Democratic Fascist
Party that controls our government has two sets of standards - lack of
justice when the Fascists are the accused, and scurilous accusations, inuendo,
and abuse of government agencies and power when it comes to dealing with
any republican executive branch.

As for Bush or Reagan getting away with anything, there is simply ZERO
credable evidence to support ANY assertion that they were involved with
any crimes.  I am also convinced that there never ever will be any, because
they were not involved.  This includes any kind of conspiracy/coverup
theory.  I happen to believe in innocence until proven guilty in a court
of law.

I will also point out that YOU are a hypocrite.  If you call yourself a 
liberal and are for civil rights, then you should be outraged about the
clear violation of the rights of the accused in this matter.  And I'll
leave you with this thought:  Both Bush and Weinberger chose liberal
democrat ACLU-type lawyers to defend them for exactly the reason I claim
(violation of civil rights).

Oh yeah, would you have a problem with eliminating the special prosecutor
in favor of a special investigator?  Unlike the persecutor, an investigator
is not judge, jury, lawmaker, etc., rolled into one.  The investigator would
dig up the necessary evidence, and then turn it over to the correct authorities,
who would decide to prosecute or not.  If there is credable evidence, no
attorney general could refuse to prosecute.  And often, a crime related to
state law might be broken, and in this case, the state attorney general
should be the prosecutor...  Or worst case would be that only when credable
evidence is actually found, then a special prosecutor would be appointed.


Food for thought.


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