HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mhall@netcom.com (Michael Hall)
Subject: Re: CQX5M it works! and a few questions.
Keywords: CQX5M, Centigram Quad X5 Matrix, RSSM, roulette
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:24:25 GMT

moser@sw.stratus.com (Tom Moser) writes:

>I have also
>heard rumors that one of the _big name_ rec.gamblers is working on a
>RSSM CQX5M synthesis that eliminates the tedium of base quadrant
>establishment. How about it guys? Comments?

-- 
Michael Hall   \ 
personal account\            No comment.
mhall@netcom.com \
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: jacobs@cs.utah.edu (Steven R Jacobs)
Subject: Re: TSN (The Sierra Network) BJ
In-reply-to: larry@labrador.fishkill.ibm.com's message of Thu, 21 Jan 93 15:06:10 GMT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Date: 21 Jan 93 12:05:22

In article <1993Jan21.150610.54780@watson.ibm.com> larry@labrador.fishkill.ibm.com (Larry Pieniazek) writes:

> I'm a novice BJ player. Was wondering if anyone on this group has
> played BJ on TSN and what they thought of it.
>
> TSN is a an online service available in the US and Canada, oriented
> to games. One section (LarryLand) has BJ, Roulette, Poker and Slots.
> You are not playing for real money, just pretend (Larry Bucks, L$).
>
> The dealer is the program but up to 4 live people can play against it.
>
> BJ rules seem to be (forgive my not using correct abbrevs):
>
> Minimum bet is 1L$, max is 500L$ per hand.
>
> Dealer stands on 17 and above, including soft 17. Ties are 
> always a push.
>
> Insurance offered if A showing, dealer reveals naturals right away
> if the A was showing. Insurance pays 2:1 (I NEVER take it...)
>
> Player can split any pair (different 10's included) and can double
> anything. No resplitting (screen size limitation I suspect) but you
> can double splits, and a Natural pays 3:2 even if from a split ace.

This is good for an extra 0.15% to 0.18%, depending on the number of
decks.

> Dealer and you can only take 5 cards. If he does and you don't also,
> it's your hand against his. You win double on 5 card maxout.

I assume you mean that if you end up with 5 cards totalling 21 or less
then you win double regardless of the dealer's total?  This is probably
where most of the extra player edge is coming from.

> I'm not sure what surrender is, but I don't think it has it.
>
> There doesn't seem to be any concept of decks... no visible indicator 
> anyway. I've tried counting but I'm not that good so can't tell if
> it was doing me any good or not.

Counting cards is not very effective if you don't know when the deck
is shuffled.

> Nevertheless I have run up my stake from 100 L$ to 20,000 L$ just by	
> using basic strategy, over the course of two months playing, perhaps 50 
> hours total playing time.  (made me wonder if the game is 
> skewed in player's favor in order to be more fun... One way to 
> skew it would be to just make the draw 10 heavy, I guess)

No need for extra skew, the player probably has a 1%+ edge at this
game just by using basic strategy.
--
Steve Jacobs  ({bellcore,hplabs,uunet}!utah-cs!jacobs, jacobs@cs.utah.edu)
"Don't worry, I just have these harmless pocket rockets...."
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: hack@arabia.uucp (Edmund Hack)
Subject: Re: Super Bowl
Organization: Lockheed ESC, Houston
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:46:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.182132.1@geovax.ed.ac.uk> msc9315@geovax.ed.ac.uk writes:
>I happen to be under an 'obligatory' invitation to watch the
>Super Bowl next weekend, and would like some objective [is that
>asking too much :) ] advice on the outcome;
>
>the spread in the UK appears to be about 7 points, what would all
>those Americans out there advise; straight win?

On a straight win, I'd narrowly pick Buffalo.  They have a lot to prove,
having been beaten the last 2 times.  They are on a roll after the
unfortunate win in the wild card game and have dominated some good teams
in the subsequent games.  Finally, Dallas has no Super Bowl experience
and could end up overawed by the whole thing, as "young" NFL teams
sometimes are.

However, I say this reluctantly, as I lived in Dallas for 7 years and
became, by default, a Dallas fan. (I it darn near impossible to follow
the Houston Oilers in the Dallas media. The converse is easy, however.)

-- 
Edmund Hack - Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Co. - Houston, TX
hack@aio.jsc.nasa.gov - I speak only for myself, unless blah, blah..
"I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV."
"Detail Dress Circuits" "Belt: Above A, Below B" "Close B ClothesMode"
From: jdsurlow@uci.edu (Jim Surlow)
Subject: Tahoe trip report -- Horizon closed poker room
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Organization: Office of the Dean, Humanities, UC Irvine
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:04:51 GMT

To all interested,

I was in Tahoe from 1/16 - 1/20.  Here's the scoop:

The Horizon hotel closed its poker room on Wednesday.  This leaves only 2 
casinos in Tahoe with poker rooms (Harrah's & Harvey's).  

<I was told that only 3 had them, so I am assuming that the small ones 
Lakeside & Nugget don't have poker rooms or they were to small to be 
included -- I only checked Harrah's, Harvey's, Horizon, Caesars, & Bill's>

My last poker game was Tuesday night (7-9PM) and they only had one game 
going (7-stud).  All but 2 seats housed by locals.  By comparison, Harvey's 
had a 7-stud game going before 8AM.

Anyway, word has it that if the poker gaming doesn't get any better, the 
other poker rooms will close as well.   

Other items:
   I didn't play BJ.
   I don't play slots, but this time I made an exception.
      As of Wed morn:  Megabucks was around    $3  M
                       Quartermania was around $1.3M
                       Nevada Nickels was above $750K (!?)
      I played some of those Nickels.  
    
Other non-gaming items:
    I stayed at a motel (Best Tahoe West $60/night for 3 on Sun & Holiday,
                                         $50/night for 3 mid week).  
      Nice room, no view 2-3 blocks to Casinos & Lake, in CA.
    Ate at Horizon mostly (Josh's midweek -- 2 big Lobster tails for $10), 
      but did eat breakfast buffets at Harvey's, Horizon, & Caesars (in 
      order of preference)
    Snow at Heavenly Valley was great for skiing.  Heavenly, Sierra Ski 
      Ranch, Kirkwood -- all run shuttle busses by the motels to pick up 
      skiers.  (I'm sure that Squaw Valley would do if the busses could 
      have gotten through).

Hope this helps.

P.S. I found the FAQs _very_ helpful for Video Poker & Craps!

Jim Surlow
Humanities Computing Facilities
UC Irvine

Overheard 2 friends at Horizon; after 1 lone quarter falls out of a slot 
machine:  "I'm from the Clinton administration, I have a winnings form you 
need to fill out"
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: larry@labrador.fishkill.ibm.com (Larry Pieniazek)
Subject: Re: TSN (The Sierra Network) BJ
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:34:56 GMT
Reply-To: lar@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM East Fishkill

In article <JACOBS.93Jan21120522@cells.cs.utah.edu>, jacobs@cs.utah.edu
(Steven R Jacobs) writes:
> In article <1993Jan21.150610.54780@watson.ibm.com>
larry@labrador.fishkill.ibm.com (Larry Pieniazek) writes:
> 

[ Deleted ]

> > Dealer and you can only take 5 cards. If he does and you don't also,
> > it's your hand against his. You win double on 5 card maxout.
> 
> I assume you mean that if you end up with 5 cards totalling 21 or less
> then you win double regardless of the dealer's total?  This is probably
> where most of the extra player edge is coming from.
> 

Sorry if I wasn't clear. Assuming the dealer didn't have an "A showing"
natural, (an "A hidden" natural won't be revealed till the end) if you get
5 cards without busting, you win every time no matter what they 
add up to. It even beats an "A hidden" natural of the dealers. And you
win 2:1. I've never heard of this in a casino that didn't have some other
really sucky rule so I'd tend to assume this is where the edge comes from.

If the dealer draws 5 cards he is done. No more cards for him even
if he is well below 17. Then it's you against him just as if he had
come to rest above 17 without breaking.

> > I'm not sure what surrender is, but I don't think it has it.

If "surrender" is in the FAQ, point me at it, but if not, would
love to learn what it is. 

[ Deleted ]

> No need for extra skew, the player probably has a 1%+ edge at this
> game just by using basic strategy.
> --

Would it pay to hit soft hands that you would normally stand on (say
a soft 17 against the dealer's 5 showing) to try to get the 5 card max	
2:1 bonus or is that not a good plan?

> Steve Jacobs  ({bellcore,hplabs,uunet}!utah-cs!jacobs, jacobs@cs.utah.edu)
> "Don't worry, I just have these harmless pocket rockets...."

-Lar

',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',','
`,` Democrat:    Give us your money. _We'll_ solve your problems. `,`
`,` Republican:  Give us your money. We'll ignore your problems.  `,`
`,` Libertarian: Keep your money. Solve your own problems.        `,`
',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',','

Don't blame ME, I voted Libertarian!

#include <std_disclaim.h>
From: C08926RC@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu (Rob)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Guns used in assassinations
Date: 23 Jan 93 15:59:57 GMT

Here's a rather morbid question:  what were the makes and models
of guns used in various assassinations and attempts?  For instance,
an Italian Carcano was used on JFK; what was used in the murders
of Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr., Bobby Kennedy, and the
attempts on Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan?

Add others to the list if you like...

Rob
From: clochmul@nrambr.chem.duke.edu (C. H. Lochmuller)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Shooter's stance and rear pockets
Date: 27 Jan 93 03:36:40 GMT


# In article <28549@sybase.sybase.com>
# mtxinu!sybase.sybase.com!thorick@ucbvax.Be
# rkeley.EDU (Thorick Chow) writes:
# #WHy is it that many pistol target shooters put their non-shooting
# #hand in their pockets ?
# 
# It seems like a good place to put it.  TV technicians working around
# high voltage keep one hand tucked into the belt behind their backs..
# 
# I think your real question is, why are they shooting one-handed?
# That must be because the official rules of their particular competition
# require it.  Of course for defense shooting one uses both hands by
# preference.
# 
# ++++++++++++++
 It is in the official rules that one hand be used and the back pocket stance
 is not a requirement! It is a way to assure that the off-side hand does not
 touch the bench. I agree with the "both hands by preference". As for the
 moderator's need for three pizzas in a back pack .......
 
 CHL
 
# -- 
# Yes, these opinions are mine! 
# If a reply bounces use 128.109.169.3
# 
# 


-- 
Yes, these opinions are mine! 
If a reply bounces use 128.109.169.3
From: justice@Panix.Com (Michael Justice)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: Gun engineering & materials info needed
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:05:08 GMT
Organization: Panix Public Access Internet & Unix, NYC

I would've sent this by email, but MJ's articles don't have any paths on 'em.
(Neat trick, BTW. :-)

In article <4372@eastman.UUCP> MJ writes:
(a different MJ from Michael A. Justice, BTW. :-)
#In article <199301230541.AA00642@sun.Panix.Com>, justice@Panix.Com (Michael
#Justice) wrote:
## Regrettably, I am a software nerd, not a mechanical engineer.
## ("Dammit, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a _________!")
#
#There's your problem right there.  You'll need your sketches turned into
#engineering drawings, structural analysis, material selection, machine shop
#work, etc. etc. etc.  Got any M.E. buddies?

Unfortunately, no.  I do have one friend who's a tool-and-die maker, but
he doesn't have the engineering knowledge.  A further search has so far
turned up no ME's who are even FOAFOAFs.

The drawings are pretty trivial.  We're talking a really simple design.

The structural analysis and materials selection are the two tough parts.
While I believe that the design is so overengineered that it wouldn't go
boom if I fed it .30-06's, I just want to PROVE it.  And I want to make
the parts in such a way that I don't wear out the bearing surfaces on the
frame.

#Think of it like an M.E. having an idea for a CAD package and wanting to
#read a few books on programming, UNIX, etc. etc.

But we're not talking about arcane stuff here, just putting together a
rather simple gun.  Also, I'm not after general knowledge, but rather one
specific area.  While I couldn't write the engineering analysis parts of
that CAD package, I *could* do quite a lot of the graphics -- and I didn't
spend all of my time in college sitting in front of a SGI.

Finally, I am not planning on taking two weeks for a general review of the
available materials, followed by blowing myself up. :-)  I'm in no hurry.
I'm looking for starting points, not immediate answers.

How hard is it to make a 1911A1 slide?  Or the "blowback SMG" that has
been bandied about lately?

			-- Michael.
-- 
Michael A. Justice / Will hack X11 for peanuts (stolen, with apologies).
justice@panix.com /  "It's barbaric, but hey! it's home!" -- "Aladdin"
From: clb@oc.com (Chris Boyd)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Get your shootin' books cheap
Date: 26 Jan 93 01:50:56 GMT
Organization: OpenConnect System Macintosh Net

If you missed out on the DBI two for one sale, here's your chance to buy
them for even less.  Every year, one of the Edward R. Hamilton catalogs
has many shooting related books in it.  Here's this year's crop:

DISCLAIMER:
I don't work for these people.  I just send them a lot of money and get
very good service and excellent prices.  I tried to find all the shooting
related books, but hey, I'm human.  Not responsible for typos.  I've done
my best and checked carefully.  If you order from them, you'll get on the
mailing list.  All prices are US Dollars.  Books marked "Paper" are
paperback, others should be hardbound.

Handloader's Digest 11th	Ed. K. Warner.	Gun Digest/DBI  	352pp	Paper 
907561	$3.95

Jane's Security & Co-In		Ian V. Hogg	Jane's			607pp	Paper	91214X	39.95

Gun Digest Book of the 9mm	D. Grennel	Gun Digest/DBI  	256pp	Paper	907502
4.95

Gun Digest Book of the 45	D. Grennel	Gun Digest/DBI  	256pp	Paper	907545
4.95

Shooter's Bible 1992 #83	W. Jarret	DBI			576pp	Paper	907820	4.95

Shooting			E. Matunas	Outdoor Life		438pp		907839	12.95

Modern Gun Values		J.Lewis		Gun Digest/DBI		528pp	Paper	907537	4.95

Winchester Shotguns/Shells	R. W. Stadt	Armory Publications	184pp		907952
9.95

Firearms Assy/Dssy/Auto Pist	J. B. Wood	Gun Digest/DBI		480pp	Paper
907529	4.95

Hunter's Shooting Guide		J. O'Connor	Outdoor Life		170pp	Paper	900095	1.95

Handloader's Digest 12th	Ed. K. Warner.	Gun Digest/DBI  	384pp	Paper 
90757X	4.95

Jane's Fighting Aircraft WW2	Bill Gunston	Military Press		318pp		902225
16.95

Sport Rifle Takedown/Reassy	J. B. Wood	DBI			320pp	Paper	907863	4.95

2nd to None-Sport Firearms	Ed. J. Cutler	Live Oak		227pp		907812	12.95

Knives '92, 12th Ed.		Ed. K. Warner	DBI			288pp	Paper	912808	3.95

Archer's Digest 5th Ed.		Ed. R. Combs	DBI			256pp	Paper	906980	4.95

Great Shooter of the World	Sam Fadala	Stoeger			287pp	Paper	907499	4.95

Cart. of the World 6th Ed.	F. C. Barnes	DBI			448pp	Paper	907146	4.95

Rifles, Cart. & the Game	Clay Harvey	Outdoor Life		260pp		907790	9.95

Exploded Firearms Dwgs		H. A. Murtz	Gun Digest/DBI  	480pp	Paper	907510
3.95

Guns Illust. 1990 22nd Ed.	H. A. Murtz	Gun Digest/DBI  	320pp	Paper
907553	3.95

Popular Sport Rifle Cart	Clay Harvey	DBI			320pp	Paper	907758	3.95

They don't have any notes about shipping outside the U.S.  They do not
take
phone orders.  They do not even have a business phone listed in the
Information listings when I tried to call them last year to find out how
to
deal with orders outside the U.S.

They don't do credit cards either.  Check or money order.  Include $3.00
per
order for shipping&handling.  Mail your order to:

Edward R. Hamilton, Bookseller
Falls Village, CT
06031-5000

They ship via U.S. Mail within 48 hours of receiving your order.

Chris Boyd    clb@oc.com   OpenConnect Systems
2711 LBJ Freeway Dallas, TX 75234
From: burge@qdeck.com (Bill Burge)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: cleaning a glock 17
Date: 22 Jan 93 03:59:47 GMT
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA

In article <199301180805.AA12501@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary) writes:
#In article <43649@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> jude@jeeves.ucsd.edu (Jude Poole) writes:
##I recently purchases a glock 17.  The instructions show how to break
##it down, but give no details on what to clean and what to lubricate.
#
#According to Kasler's book, very little lubrication is needed: A 
#drop rubbed along the barrel and slide/barrel contact area, a second
#drop on the slide rails on the reciever, and a third drop on the
#trigger bar. Soaking all parts in a solvent is recommended, as well
#as minimal cleaning of the bore with a patch. 
#
#Personally, I field strip mine, hose all the parts down with a spray
#cleaner, run a brush dipped in mild solvent down the barrel, followed
#by patches until the come out clean and then lubricate as above. In 
#general, I ssupect I carry all the above steps to excess: I've heard
#stories of people who do far less, without problems.

My Glock gets a very strict regimen of cleaning:

1. Shoot Glock
2. Shoot Glock
3. Shoot Glock
4. Shoot Glock

..

2000. Clean Glock (whether it needs it or not)
2001. Shoot Glock
2002. Shoot Glock
etc.

You get the point.  Glocks are extrememly low maintenance guns.  I wipe
the internal part off with a rag an add a little oil and reassemble.  If
a brush goes down the bore, it is usually a mistake made while cleaning the
chamber.

Bill	burge@qdeck.com
From: bcamp42@ursa.calvin.edu (Bryan Camp)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: FOR SALE: Smith & Wesson 9mm - $300
Date: 24 Jan 93 03:32:34 GMT
Organization: Calvin College

Smith & Wesson 9mm <<not sure which model>>:

   4" barrel
   4 Magazines
   1 Box of rounds
   Bianchi concealed holster
   Original + extra grips
   Cleaning kit
   Original papers for complete breakdown
   Homemade lock-case <<VERY nice!>>


<<Posting this for a friend>>

Please respond via EMail as I do not read this group.


Bryan
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From: harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: Effectiveness of pepper gas
Date: 28 Jan 93 16:11:12 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

forda@gtephx.UUCP (Andrew Ford @ AGCS, Phoenix, Arizona) writes:

#In article <C1HMLF.78B@wsrcc.com>, wolfgang@wsrcc.com (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht) writes:
## I'm was told by a lady displaying the 10% and 15% variety at a recent
                                         ^^^     ^^^
## show that Oleoresin Capsicum is only approved for use against animals
## in California.  She paused, and then added, "The 15% is good for
## animals up to 250lbs."

There was something on TV recently about these sprays (I'm sorry I
can't recall when and where) where more than one medical professional
said that 5% is sufficient to "saturate" the senses.  The higher
percentages were, in there opinions, a waste.

BTW, _she_ can spray a 250lb animal with the stuff.  _I'm_ going to be
looking for an escape route. ;)

[Anecdote about police use of OC spray deleted.]

#Editorial: in another few seconds, the OC would probably
#have had some effect, but the cops would have been severely
#injured and maybe even dead by that time.  If you want to
#use OC, use it like the pro's do... as an alternative 
#to lethal force if it's use is both possible and 
#effective.

True.  I think it's commendable that they attempted to use non-lethal
force against an assailant wielding a deadly weapon.  It may not have
changed the outcome in that particular case, but it might in some.
-- 
-----------------Greg-Harp----------------harp@netcom.com------------------

                     Dallas Cowboys -- NFC Champions
                           The 'Boys are Back!
From: 34AEJ7D%CMUVM.bitnet@GITVM1.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: FFL Application Form Question?
Date: 28 Jan 93 04:15:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.183905.25556@watson.ibm.com>, breslau@watson.ibm.com (Art
Breslau) says:
#
#I run a supply house when I am not twiddling bits and bytes, and know from    t
#firs
#hand experience what an inspection entails.

When I held an FFL the inspections weren't the problem. What got me was
the steady stream of BATF stooges they used to send in, complete with
out-of-state ID and some new-in-the-box handgun, as an attempted
entrapment scam. THAT used to really make me mad!

W. K. Gorman
From: pauly@netcom.com (Paul Yoshimune)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: 147gr 9mm...
Date: 22 Jan 93 04:03:10 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

A little while back someone noted that they were loading 147gr 9mm rounds from
Penn Bullets with AA#7, and noted they were used the max load listed in the
Accurate Arms loading booklet.  Could that person (or anyone having the AA
booklet), please mail me the information?  Thanks...

-- 
DVC,
  Paul
From: mtxinu!sybase.sybase.com!thorick@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Thorick Chow)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: AK Drums, any good ?
Date: 23 Jan 93 02:20:07 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.



Hi all,

I'm considering the purchase of a Drum Type magazine for a CHinese AK
rifle (MAK-90).  As these tend to cost a bit, I thought I'd ask
if anyone has anything good or bad to say about how it functions...
do the 100 rounders work OK ?   do the 75 rounders work OK ?
I want to get one mostly for the novelty and just because maybe
they'll get scarce due to political reasons  :-(
Even if I don't really use it much, it'd be nice to know that
I laid out the bucks for something that really works.

please post !

thanks "

-thorick





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From: ems@michael.apple.com (E. Michael Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: Best stopping power in handguns?
Date: 23 Jan 93 15:59:44 GMT
Organization: Circle 'C' Shellfish Ranch, Shores-of-the-Pacific, California

In article <1993Jan22.141008.10672@samba.oit.unc.edu> Harry.Johnson@lambada.oit.unc.edu (Harry Johnson) writes:

#My question is:  what is the relationship between energy and stopping
#power?  Due to its larger size, does the .45 gain over these higher energy
#rounds in stopping power, or are the smaller rounds actually better?  I
#expect there to be additional factors to consider besides sheer energy in
#figuring out how good a slug is at taking down an attacker, but at what
#point can you say, "Well, that's pretty big, but this one's just so much
#(faster/more energetic) that this one is superior?"

Some folks hold that MV**2 is everything.  Others hold that MV is king.

Some folks think how far into ballistic geletin a bullet goes is what
counts.  Others ask how big the hole is in diameter as well.  Some
go on to ask about the 'wound channel' around the hole.

The 'real answer' seems to be that MV**2 needs to be between 250 and 600
for best effect and that a bullet diameter between .357 and .45 is good.
Oh, and the bullet should be between 100 and 300 grains...  Finding 
the best fit within these bounds keeps at least 3 magazines in business
and sells (my guess) about 1/4 of all handguns sold ;-)

#Or have I asked some sort of age-old debate question that has no clear
#answer?  Any replies are welcome.

Yes, you have.
-- 

E. Michael Smith  ems@apple.COM

'Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it.  Boldness has
 genius, power and magic in it.'  -  Goethe

I am not responsible nor is anyone else.  Everything is disclaimed.