HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: todd@liveware.com
Subject: Re: How do I print to a PostScript file?
Keywords: PS Printer What do I do with A PS file
Reply-To: todd@liveware.com
Organization: Liveware Corporation   Fort Collins, CO.  USA.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:57:24 GMT

In article <lux.715618403@sol.UVic.CA> lux@sol.UVic.CA (Michael O'Henly)  
writes:
> 	I have a new NeXTstation but no printer (yet). Much of the
> documentation I need for this system is available online. I'd like to
> "print" it to a PostScript file that I can download to another machine
> that is connected to a laser.

> 	I've looked through the user guide and poked around in
> PrintMgr but I'm not seeing anything that indicates to me how to do
> it.

> 	Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
 
> 	Michael.
> --
> Michael O'Henly                 
> McPherson Library                Internet:  lux@sol.uvic.ca
> University of Victoria                      lux@uvvm.uvic.ca
> Victoria, B.C., Canada             BITNET:  lux@uvvm

Well depending on what you are printing to it can be rather
easy.  Since the NeXT supports Level 2 you will need to convert
your file (ie printer to a printer driver that is non Level 2)
or print to a printer driver that is Level 2 if you are going to
a Level 2 printer on the other system.  You could also avoid
sneaker net by going Ethernet or go serial.  But in this
special sounding case you might want to copy the file to floppy
(the ps file you printed) and sneaker it over.  So, after that
long explaination of the ideas, here is what I do when I go
to a Lino 300 across the street from our Network...

o	Create a 'new' printer in the PrintManager.app
o	Make it a LaserWriter NTX
o	Call it 'BozoPrinter'
o	From the program (say Frame) Preview this document
	with the 'BozoPrinter' selected as your printer
o	From Preview.app save the document. (will be level 1)
o	Take it to your favorite service bureau or network
	to print.  Remember to carry it on a MSDOS or Mac
	formatted disk.  I know of no system that recognizes
	NeXT format disks. (don't bother sending me flames
	since I never have need to have another system read NeXT
	formatted disks)... ;')

That is about it.  I hope I have answered the question.  Have
fun.  It is nice to see 2500 dpi output on occasion...

Regards,

Todd Nathan
Liveware Corporation
From: insignia@netcom.com (Insignia Solutions Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: SoftPC and NextStep 3.0
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:16:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.txlnv0j.insignia
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <nzkn!gg.insignia@netcom.com> insignia@netcom.com (Insignia Solutions Inc.) writes:
If SoftPC is already installed on a machine running NextStep 3.0 you
do not need to be concerned with the message below.  
>
>There is a problem installing SoftPC 2.05 under NextStep 3.0.  The
>Installer gives the error "cannot open package /unlabeled error 
>reading softpc.info".  We have a installation disk modified for
installation on 
>NextStep 3.0.  To receive this disk, please contact Vickie Gonsalves 
>at 415/694-7622 with your registered Serial Number; there will be a 
>one day delay in responding to your voice mail message.
>
>For any other technical questions, please contact Technical Support 
>at 415/694-7694.
>  
>
>
>-- 
>
>*Sophia Jones insignia@netcom.com*   Insignia Tech Support (415) 694-7694


-- 

*Sophia Jones insignia@netcom.com*   Insignia Tech Support (415) 694-7694
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mlind@mot.com (Michael Lind)
Subject: procmail on the NeXT?
Reply-To: mlind@mot.com
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:12:10 GMT

Has anyone used procmail on the NeXT?  I would like to use it with  
Mail.app, but I lose mail if I have a folder open and procmail tries to  
write to it.  Is there a transparent way to do this rather than using  
scripts that call the lockfile application?

Many thanks,
Michael
mlind@mot.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Subject: Re: Prices on c.s.n.announce
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:52:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.230103.2854@ifi.unizh.ch> lytras@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Lytras Apostolos) writes:
> 7. Usenet is not an advertising medium.
>
>    Because of Usenet's roots in academia, and because Usenet depends
>    so heavily on cooperation (sometimes among competitors), custom
>    dictates that advertising be kept to a minimum.  It is tolerated
>    if it is infrequent, informative, and low-hype.
>
>    The "comp.newprod" newsgroup is NOT an exception to this rule:
>    product announcements are screened by a moderator in an attempt to
>    keep the hype-to-information ratio in check.
>
>    If you must engage in flackery for your company, use the "biz"
>    hierarchy, which is explicitly "advertising-allowed", and which
>    (like all of Usenet) is carried only by those sites that want it.
>
>Why should c.s.n.a overrule a widely accepted rule like this? This just
>is not the place to put pricing information. If the demand for such
>information is really big, then one should rather think of making the
>un"censored" articles available on an archive server. So people who want
>it, can get it, but people who object to commercializing Usenet to this
>point won't be offended. This discussion is not ridiculous, but rather
>annoying, because the rules are there, they're widely respected and
>accepted, and there has not been *one* good reason for changing them in
>this discussion, so far (IMHO, of course, you may perceive things
>differently).

What rule?  Deleting the price makes the product announcement no less
an advertisement.  Pricing information in a product announcement _is_
information.  Pricing information in "HSD's BLOWOUT SUMMER-SALE" is
hype (I dont think sale announcements belang in c.s.n.a).

The quality of information in c.s.n.a has been very good, and I've
seen very little hype.  Putting the prices in only adds to the
information, and to think that it adds hype is ridiculous with the
exception of announcements of pricing changes on already announced
products (like the blowout sales that were so popular this summer).

The guidelines only state a concern for the hype-to-information ratio
and do not specifically mention prices _anywhere_.  Furthermore, these
are only guidelines and not rules.  


I for one want to see the prices in new preduct announcements.


andrew
-- 
andrew@cubetech.com     | "We shall not cease from exploration
Andrew Loewenstern      |  And the end of our exploring
Cube Technologies, Inc. |  Will be to arrive where we started
                        |  And know the place for the first time." -T.S. Eliot
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: bkr@drdhh.hanse.de (Bjoern Kriews)
Subject: Re: Cleaning the keyboard
Organization: Digital Island
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:28:06 GMT

scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) writes:
>reason for taking apart your keyboard (like Classic Coke dumped
>into it or somesuch).  The likelihood of ending up with a broken
>key or two would seem to be pretty high ... if it ain't broke,
>don't fix it.

Hmm, taking apart a NeXT keyboard is not the hardest thing - 
but it takes a bit of time to find out how to put the surrounding
rubberband back in.

>And a can of compressed air is a handy thing to have about
>regardless.

I can't judge this - but I was once told that one has to be careful 
with compr. air / vacuum cleaners because of static charge building
up by heavily flowing air streams.

regards, Bjoern
-- 
bkr@drdhh.hanse.de - Bjoern Kriews - Stormsweg 6 - D-2000 Hamburg 76 - FRG
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
         "Ich trinke auch nicht weniger als andere Leute."  (K.H.)
From: clark@bruce.nist.gov (Charles Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: fonts in /LocalLibrary for network use
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:11:39 GMT

Following (I think) the instructions in NextAnswers postscript.819
I have installed fonts in /LocalLibrary on one machine, and exported
that directory to the net.

The other machine on the net mounts /LocalLibrary without difficulty,
but does not access the fonts, i.e. they do not show up in the font
panel in any app.

I'm using OS 2.1.

All suggestions welcome.

Charles Clark
National Institute of Standards and Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket)
Subject: Re: Recommendations sought for HEADSET microphones for SimonSays
Originator: verket@verket-home
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 04:14:26 GMT

In article <17o6f1INNi1a@agate.berkeley.edu> et@ocf.berkeley.edu (Eric  
Thompson) writes:
> I want to buy a headset microphone for use with SimonSays.  (The new
> version even has a Preference setting for headset or non-headset; I wonder
> what it does..)
> 
> Anyhow, if you know of headset mics that WORK and WHERE they can be found
> I would appreciate hearing about it!  I've seen some in Hello Direct's
> telephony catalog (1800HIHELLO) but I'm not sure they'll work.

I use the Audio Technica ATM71. Works quite well though it doesn't cancel  
background noise as well as I'd like (My 3 year old is deadly!). I got it at a  
Guitar Center.
--
Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok)
-- 
Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok)
NeRD# 3649
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: andrewd@tamsun.tamu.edu (Andrew T Duchowski)
Subject: TeXmenu -- English?
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 02:48:01 GMT

TeXmenu looks interesting.  Does it come or can it switch itself
to English?

Please email and optionally post.
Thanks,
Andrew
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: BackSpace/NextWorld
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:21:16 GMT
Reply-To: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu
Organization: University of Houston

In article <BtLMu8.6CG@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)  
writes:
=>In article <3757@cvbnetPrime.COM> skochhar@cvbnet.prime.com (Sandeep Kochhar  
=>x4618 5-2) writes:
=>> According to the latest NextWorld, I should get Backspace (the
=>> screen saver) from "friends". Since none of my friends has it,
=>> could someone on the net mail me a copy (tar/uuencoded etc.)?
=>
=>I haven't seen that magazine, but it probably explains
=>why we (and we are your friends, honest!) can't make it
=>available on sonata/nova.  If you've looked, you'll
=>notice we still have it, but it's not readable.  I get asked
=>why nearly every day.  That's so:  
=>
=>	we can make it available if that's ever allowed again
=>
=>
=>	>I< think pulling it from mass distribution was ridiculous
=>
=>These are my opinions, of course, and don't reflect the
=>policies of the Archives or of the University.  Most of the
=>recent policies of the Archives are built on my opinions,
=>of course, but they aren't necessarily synonymous. 
=>
=>Allen B (Hoping to get less mail on this for a while)

Backspace is now an example on the 3.0 release CD-Rom  
(NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit). That probably has something to do with why  
NeXT has requested that Backspace is no longer distributed...

--
Paul S. Sears                *  sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston    *  suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center *  comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration   *  DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC 
          >>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Steve Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: CD-ROM question, NeXT customer support gripe
Date: 4 Sep 92 00:50:56 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Cognitive Science, The Johns Hopkins University
In-reply-to: aitken@cs.cornell.edu's message of 3 Sep 92 22:10:18 GMT

Yes, fine, it would be quite annoying if CD-ROM drives shipping today
included a copy of 3.0, since those who ordered and received the drive
months ago still don't have the CD. But has anyone (except Simson G,
obviously a special case...) gotten a copy of 3.0 yet? Is the third
party responsible for sending out the disks using Pony Express?

I doubt I'm the only one who would have liked to get this sort of
administrative stuff out of the way before classes start.  

--Steve Anderson
Xref: sparky comp.sys.next.misc:19296 comp.sys.next.hardware:1608
From: asd@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Kareth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Color 17" vs 21": which is better?
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:49:45 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

As I'm looking to upgrade (hopefully) soon to a Color Turbo, I'm
wondering which is better, the 17" or the 21" screen?  I know this has
been hashed about before, so just email me. It's been awhile since I
saw anythhing about them.  Last I remembered the 17" was supposedly
super sharp and a better display than the 21", but that was quite
awhile back.

If you've worked with both, I'd like to hear what you have to say.

thanks

-k
asd@cc.purdue.edu
From: chauvin@pencom.com (Chris Chauvin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: McGill X on a Turbo (was Re: Experiences with cubX ?)
Keywords: X
Date: 30 Aug 92 21:58:43 GMT
Reply-To: chauvin@pencom.com (Chris Chauvin)
Organization: Pencom Software

In article <BtLG5o.Fq3@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> bee@watarts.uwaterloo.ca (Bill E.  
Eickmeier) writes:
> In article <1992Aug25.201428.14395@trlabs.CA> macg@trlabs.CA (Mike MacGregor)  
writes:
> >
> >I'd like to get X running on my Turbo (so that rules out McGill X).
> 
> Could someone in the know explain why McGill X doesn't work on a Turbo
> but does on a NeXTstation - what's the fundamental difference here?
> 
> 	Bill

Well, my guess would be that the McGill X doesn't take into account that the  
frame buffer width changed on the turbos.  If you look at the "video.h" file in  
NS 3.0, you will see:

#define	 VIDEO_MW	((dma_chip == 313)? 1152 : 1120)	/* Actual pixels per  
scanline */

So it looks like that a dma chip that talks to the frame buffer was changed.   
This means that 25 mHz machines have a frame buffer width of 1152 while the  
turbos have a frame buffer width equal to the visible width, 1120.

I assume (I've never seen it) that when McGill X runs on the Turbos, the scan  
line accellerator (frame width) is hard coded to 1152 and everything comes out  
skewed.

(BTW, don't go looking for dma_chip to be defined anywhere.  It's an internal  
kernel variable.)

Chris Chauvin
Product Manager - co-Xist
Pencom Software
chauvin@pencom.com
(512) 343-1111
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: chris (Chris Larson)
Subject: Re: soft carrying cases for mono stations...
Reply-To: chris@oceania.com
Organization: Oceania Health Care Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:41:12 GMT

>
> Don't forget to take a screwdriver with you to open the NeXT at security.   
> Also, calling them first seems to make them pretty mellow. Sometimes I just get  
> to walk through without opening the NeXT!
> 
> --
> James "Cliff" Elam                      | I want NeXTStep 3.0. Now!
> (919) 380-6522 (v,w)                    | I want NeXT/Intel too!
> jcelam%confused@glv.com - NeXT mail!    | DBKit will sell more NeXT's than IB!

I fly back and forth from home to work every week carying my slab.  I used to not xray  
the thing, but that got to be too much of a hassle.  From what I understand, the xray  
machine can't hurt the hard drive.  It definitely hasn't hurt it yet (~20 trips).

Chris
-- 
Chris Larson  <==>  chris@oceania.com  <==>  NeXT Mail is cool
Oceania Health Care Systems       Palo Alto, CA (415) 322-0127
The Software Ranch                Park City, UT (801) 649-3605
From: simsong (Simson L. Garfinkel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Inherited a 486/33...
Date: 31 Aug 92 13:13:16 GMT
Reply-To: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us
Organization: Simson Garfinkel and Associates, Inc.

You'll want to raise it from 8MB to 16MB of memory to get decent performance.   
The 125MB hard disk is small; consider replacing it with a 400MB SCSI or ESDI  
hard drive.  (SCSI is better; you'll also want an SCSI interface.)

The performance of your 486/33MHZ will be roughly equal to a 25MHZ color  
system.  Not very exciting.

Don't buy anything until NeXTSTEP 486 is out, because the required hardware  
config might change.  And don't forget to add in $1000 -> $2500 to puchase  
NeXTSTEP 486.

All in all, you are better of selling that machine RIGHT NOW.

-simson
-- 

................................................................simson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: lytras@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Lytras Apostolos)
Subject: Re: Prices on c.s.n.announce
Organization: Informatik Club Uni Zurich
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 23:03:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.172910.19278@cube.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) writes:
>You consider price to be 'hype', rather than 'information', I take it.

No, you got me wrong. I am not generally against prices. I just think
that we should be careful about where we're going. If we allow the hype
to be "beautified" with prices then we will have to cope with seriously
commercial use of this medium, sooner or later. I have received a
mail from one reader of this newsgroup who proposes a solution that
could be abbreviated with "take the hype out of the postings and put as
much information in, as possible or necessary". 

An announcement would then look like this, e.g.

Name: BLAH
Producer: Foo, Inc.
Category: Text Processor
Features: imports RTF text and EPS pictures
          comes with a developer API for custom apps
          max. size of document: blabla
Contact:  somestreet 234, somecity xxx
          Fax:
          E-Mail:
          Phone:
Price:    $ 0.02

This would not interfere with Usenet guidelines for posting, it would not
need an additional archive server service, it would keep hype out and
get information in. It's quite a viable solution, IMHO. Thanks to Ronald
C. Antony for pointing me to this.

Maybe this will clear things up a little... 

Have fun!
- Apostolos
-- 
	 lytras@ifi.unizh.ch   		|   Apostolos Lytras
	 lytras@avalon.physik.unizh.ch	|   Informatik Club der Uni
	 lytras@amiga.physik.unizh.ch  	|   Zuerich, SysAdmin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: lacsap@plethora.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais)
Subject: Re: prices on c.s.n.announce -I want a vote!
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 03:11:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.201209.17381@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>  
vrr@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (veenu.r.rashid) writes:
> I think all the other comp.sys.*.* newsgroups routinely carry price
> information about their products, without much flamage about this
> content.  I wonder who thought up this policy here.

For the record - I did.  csn.announce is carried across many
different networks,  each with their own idea of what is appropriate
use of tax payer's money.  The administrators for each of these
networks has defined policies concerning what is correct and what
is not.  Traffic that they believe is wrong is not carried.

In the beginning I asked about these policies and got copies
and formulated an acceptable compromise.  Feel free to vote,
but the current moderator has the last say as to what happens
on csn.announce,  and the network admins that carry csn.announce
have the final say about if it goes through their wires or
not.

I would strongly urge that you do not deluge the moderator of
csn.announce with "we must have a vote...."  He has a very
difficult job to do with a bunch of very vocal people with
little clue as to what is going on.

pasc
From: unregistered@newcastle.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: prices on c.s.n.announce -I want a vote!
Date: 2 Sep 92 12:08:06 GMT
Reply-To: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
Organization: Synapse Computer Consultants
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


I agree....prices should be used on CSNA...perhaps the main reason I
look at the group is to find out what new software/hardware exists
for the NeXT, what pricing is like, whether there are Educational
discounts and so on...it takes a lot more time to have to email
the company directly ( if they have email) and sometimes time is money...

I say down with $xxx.yy and up with numbers.

Scott
From: izumi@mindseye.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Placing NeXTstation Slab on its Side
Date: 29 Aug 92 23:33:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.17p1gqINNlf6
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: mindseye.berkeley.edu

I don't know about hard disks, but NeXTstation (Color) has
a big heak sink for the power supply facing down, fins almost
touching the desk surface.  I think proper cooling of the
power supply relies on air going through the channels formed
by the fins and the desktop surface.

If you position slabs vertically, you probably should attach
a plate on the bottom so they cover the fins and the air is 
channeled through the fins.

-- 
Izumi Ohzawa             [ $BBg_78^=;(B ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440             Fax:  (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu   (NeXTmail OK)
From: travisj@adp.uucp (Travis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for PD Music software
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:28:58 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin ADP

In article <1992Aug31.221943.28420@wam.umd.edu> tedwards@wam.umd.edu (technopagan priest) writes:
>Does anyone know of PD or sharware music programs for the NeXT
>available by ftp?  I'm particularly looking for any program which
>allows entering of notes on a staff, and use of recorded samples.
>
>-Thomas
>


Could people post this information please?!

Trav



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: greyham@research.canon.oz.au (Graham Stoney)
Subject: Re: Prices on c.s.n.announce
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 04:35:57 GMT

ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) writes:
>There are lots of reasons, most of them historical, for why prices were  
>forbidden from being on USENET.

Craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap!
(Gee, that felt good!).

It's not _prices_ that's forbidden, it's _advertising_. Take the price off an
advertisement, and what have you got?. Yes!. You've still got an advertisement.
Either the prices should stay, or the advertisements should go: this is what
the debate should be about, and historically the answer is that the
advertisements should go. Keeping the advertisements but X'ing out the prices
is bad regadless of whether you want the ads or not: everyone loses!

Graham
>been
-- 
Graham Stoney. Ph: +61-2-805-2909.         Totally unrelated message follows:
Since 1900, there are 23 known cases of innocent people being put to death in
the USA; but since the execution ends any effort to investigate possible
misscarriages of justice, the real figure is certainly much higher.
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: expanding the dock
Date: 31 Aug 92 02:51:11 GMT
Reply-To: glenn@rightbrain.com

Tim Reed writes
> 
> I know this has been asked before, but I don't remember the answers.  
> Is there any way to expand the dock to hold more than 13 apps? What  
> about NeXTstep 3.0?

There are several utility programs that do this nicely, one of which
is our product, LaunchPad. Email to info@rightbrain.com for more details.

--
 Glenn Reid        		NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com
 RightBrain Software		415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977)
 Palo Alto, California