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From: wjh+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Fred Hansen)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: User Interface with ATK : iconified windows
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:22:44 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

To cause a window to become an icon, you can use im_Hide(thisim). 
However, this may require the window to first come up full and then
shrink.
From: gk5g+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Gary Keim)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: Messages & POP
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:01:48 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Excerpts from misc: 10-Sep-92 Re: Messages & POP Bill
Cattey@Athena.MIT.E (616*)

> I wonder why messages did not display the content of your text/richtext
posting. 

Because you didn't have you MM_CHARSET environment variable set to
"iso-8859-1."

Gary 
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
From: isabelle@shamin.genie.uottawa.ca (Isabelle Tourneux)
Subject: User Interface with ATK : iconified windows
Followup-To: poster
Originator: isabelle@shamin.genie.uottawa.ca
Organization: MCRLab - University of Ottawa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 20:00:19 GMT


I am writing a User Interface with ATK concerning joint editing. It is the
continuation of Michael Kedem's work in the multimedia Lab in the University
of Ottawa, for those who might have heard about him.

When I write "runapp prog <enter>" I would like to see the new ez-window for
prog appear as a small icon and not as a big usual window. Then, the usual
window will appear entirely when somebody clicks with the mouse on the icon.

I wondered if I could do this by specifying something in the "preferences"
file, or by adding an "initfile" or by using twm (for example the 
StartIconified function of twm).

My final aim is to run the program prog from the file ".startxrc", with the
iconified option.

So I am looking for all information about the functions and their syntax
concerning iconified windows with Andrew and how to run a program from
the .startxrc file and have the window appear iconified.
From: wdc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bill Cattey)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: Messages & POP
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:55:46 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I wonder why messages did not display the content of your text/richtext
posting.  (I've not installed metamail yet, so I got the button, but no
display of the uninterpreted text.)  But saving the file to disk and
reading it raw worked.

Anyway, I read my mail every day using:
PersonalMailCollectionCommand: getmail po:${USER} ${HOME}/Mailbox/

The getmail command is a little tool which connects to a kerberized POP
server and fetches the mail into the Mailbox directory as individual
files.

Are people interested in getmail?  Should I see about redistributing it?
Or is eatmail of sufficient functionality?

-wdc
From: eje@irenaeus.mlo.dec.com (Eric James Ewanco)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Checkpoint frequency bug?
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:31:00 GMT
Reply-To: ewanco@kalvin.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


I have noticed this problem recently, and even when I was at Carnegie Mellon.

Messages, when it checkpoints a message being composed, checkpoints it not once
but three or four times in a row rapidly, and sometimes it checkpoints it in
this way two or three times in a six second period.  So you get ten or more
checkpoints when only one was necessary.

Is this a known bug? Is there something I can do to fix this (besides turning
off checkpointing)? It's not so bad now that I have my own disk but at CMU when
I was using an AFS machine it was murder . . .

Eric
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From: bernerus@ANIMAL.CS.CHALMERS.SE (Christer Bernerus)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Messages & POP
Date: 10 Sep 92 11:12:18 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I'm running Messages without AMDS. <nl>
<nl>
Our systems will soon start using a POP server for mail instead of making /usr=
/spool/mail available.<nl>
<nl>
How do I go about to make messages fetch my mail from the POP server?<nl>
<nl>
Chris.<nl>
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Christer Bern=E9rus, SM6FBQ		!E-mail: bernerus@cs.chalmers.se<nl>
Chalmers University of Technology	! Phone: +46 31 7721036<nl>
Department of Computer Science<nl>
S-412 96 Gothenburg, SWEDEN	<nl>
<smaller><bold><nl>
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From: rdew+@ALW.NIH.GOV (Bob Dew)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: Messages & POP
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:26:24 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

POP servers are attractive to us because they provide a much-needed
solution to common mail exchange among PCs, Macs and UNIX machines.

So I agree that a built-in POP client would be a *very* handy adjunct to
the current messages implementation.


-Bob
From: rdew@ALW.NIH.GOV (Bob Dew)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: Messages & POP
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:22:06 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


> In the AndrewSetup file you can specify a MailCollectionCommand that
> will be called to collect your mail. What you need is a program that
> talks POP and puts your mail as separate messages in ~/Mailbox. I have
no idea weather this works, or if such a program is available.


This can work nicely under AFS when the POP server is configured as an
AFS client.

The AndrewSetup "AMS_MailCollectionCommand" can point to a shell script
which performs an authenticated rsh to the POP server, whereby "eatmail"
is called to transfer mail from the POP server's spooling area to the
user's home area Mailbox.  That is, the mail collection command would
look something like,

	/usr/afsws/bin/rsh Pop_server_machine /usr/andrew/bin/eatmail

Without changing the mail system configuration, user's can elect to
retrieve new mail via messages, or through their regular POP user
interface.  In this case, messages would be configured without AMDS
support, but with AFS_ENV defined.  Also, note that "Pop_server_machine"
in the rsh example may be replaced with any SMTP mail hub.

-Bob
From: janssen@parc.xerox.com (Bill Janssen)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: NESS readfile only reads text?
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:33:42 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I wanted to make a cheap way to embed screen snapshots in text, and
thought I could use a little ness script of the form

[An Andrew ToolKit view (nessview) was included here, but could not be
displayed.]
Turns out, though, that NESS's readfile only reads as ATK objects, files
containing ATK text objects, so all I get is the error:

> Ness: file not in ATK format "/tmp/Snap2

Sigh.  Seems suboptimal.  How about returning a marker of length 1 where
the single ``character'' is the object?

Bill
From: nejdl@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Wolfgang Nejdl)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: emacs frontend for andrew mail (batmail.el)?
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:49:48 GMT
Reply-To: nejdl@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Wolfgang Nejdl)
Organization: Technical University of Vienna

Can anybody tell me, where I can find an emacs frontend for andrew mail?
I have heard of batmail, but was unable to find it.
-- 
Wolfgang Nejdl                           nejdl@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at
Technical University of Vienna, E184-2   vexpert!nejdl@relay.eu.net
Paniglgasse 16, A-1040 Vienna, Austria   fax: +43-1-5055304
From: reed@ptsg-austin.sps.mot.com (Jeffrey B. Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: afs
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:45:39 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I'm interested in testing afs.  Is it avaiable? Where? When? How?  What's the
story guys?


Jeffrey B. Reed
email: reed@ptsg-austin.sps.mot.com
From: rr2b+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Robert Andrew Ryan)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: User Interface with ATK : iconified windows
Date: 15 Sep 92 01:16:58 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 14-Sep-92 User Interface with
ATK : i.. Isabelle Tourneux@ucbvax (909)

> I wondered if I could do this by specifying something in the
> "preferences" file, or by adding an "initfile" or by using twm (for
> example the StartIconified function of twm).

> My final aim is to run the program prog from the file ".startxrc", with
> the iconified option.

I suspect that a 'feature' will make what you want difficult to achieve.
 You should indeed be able to use twm features to have ATK apps start
iconified.  But they will block waiting for the window to be exposed
when you try to open the first window (with im_Create at some level in
the code.)  This may or may not be the desired behavior.

If can't wait look at around line 3356 in xim.c for:

		boolean seenexpose=FALSE;

and replace it with:

		boolean seenexpose = !environ_GetProfileSwitch("WaitForExpose", TRUE);

Then if the preference WaitForExpose is set to false the blocking while
waiting for the exposure will be avoided.

Hope this helps,
-Rob Ryan
Andrew Consortium
From: cctr127@CANTSC.CANTERBURY.AC.NZ (Jason Haar)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Using messages for UseNet
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:21:47 GMT
Reply-To: j.haar@cantva.canterbury.ac.nz
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

<nl>
Hi,<nl>
<nl>
Has anyone had any luck using <bold>messages</bold> for <italic>UseNet News</i=
talic>?<nl>
<nl>
I've got ATK and a News feed on a SPARCserver (as in, on disk), and would like=
 to know if they could be "merged".<nl>
<nl>
According to the docs, there's a thing called .amsalien which can be created a=
s a MSPath that would convince messages not to look for .SubscriptionMap/etc -=
 i.e. to look at non-ams files. Well, I couldn't seem to get that to work, so =
I'm hoping someone else has.<nl>
<nl>
I'm running the binaries - no source - so I am hoping this can be down without=
 having to "customize" it...<nl>
<nl>
Cheers<nl>
<nl>
Jason Haar, Network Consultant
From: harcoh@cs.kun.nl (Harco de Hilster)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Public bboards and VUI
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:14:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

The patch from Nathaniel Borenstein that allows public bulletinboards
works great; people with write permission to a directory are able to
delete messages from a public bboard.

Only VUI manages somehow to put the protection mask of .MS_MsgDir files to:
-rw-------
when it updates a message folder.

When a message is marked for deletion (CUI_DeleteMessage() ->
AMS_SET_ATTRIBUTE) everything is ok, but when the directory gets purged
the file protection mask changes to the above (CUI_PurgeDeletions() ->
MS_PurgeDeletedMessages()). 

The strange thing is that messages, ezmail, cui set the file protection
correct, and they all use the same library call to do it
(AMS_PurgeDeletedMessages()). 

I'am really stuck here! 

Can someone with more knowledge about the message library help me out.
Right now deleting a public message with VUI locks up that bboard for
every one else.

Thanks in advance,

Harco.
From: harcoh@cs.kun.nl (Harco de Hilster)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: Messages & POP
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:39:08 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Excerpts from mail: 10-Sep-92 Re: Messages & POP Bob Dew@alw.nih.gov (1077*)


> This can work nicely under AFS when the POP server is configured as an
> AFS client.

> The AndrewSetup "AMS_MailCollectionCommand" can point to a shell script
> which performs an authenticated rsh to the POP server, whereby "eatmail"
> is called to transfer mail from the POP server's spooling area to the
> user's home area Mailbox.  That is, the mail collection command would
> look something like,

> 	/usr/afsws/bin/rsh Pop_server_machine /usr/andrew/bin/eatmail

> -Bob



We use NFS here, but I think the essence is that your home directory is
available (exported) to the POP-server. 

Your solution also requires a real login on the POP server. With a real
POP-client, the POP server only needs to be aware of the user.
The mail server at our site is a secure machine on which (almost) nobody
has a real login, so a rsh is not allowed.

A real POP-client plus eatmail would be a better solution.

Regards,

Harco.
From: harcoh@cs.kun.nl (Harco de Hilster)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: Messages & POP
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:49:19 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

In the AndrewSetup file you can specify a MailCollectionCommand that
will be called to collect your mail. What you need is a program that
talks POP and puts your mail as separate messages in ~/Mailbox. I have
no idea weather this works, or if such a program is available.

Our administrators also talk about switching to POP and SMTP as a
replacement for /var/spool/mail and sendmail, so if you find such a POP
and SMTP client I would like to hear from you. I tried mhmail once as a
SMTP mail delivery agent, but it had trouble with the AMS headers (or it
added some of its own).

See: help AndrewSetup

Regards,

Harco.
From: holloway@maat.mct.anl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: mailing list
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:25:40 GMT

Hi,

please take me off the mailing list.

thanks,

Dave Holloway
From: pradeep@engin.umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: lputimage
Date: 6 Sep 92 18:35:23 GMT


	 I would like to write an application which inputs an image, does some 
	 processing ,and outputs the processed image to a window. I know that p
	utimage
	 ia a command line routine that does this , however I would like to do 
	this from
	 a C program using a library call. In the help on putimage there is a r
	eference
	 to lputimage, however the routines description doesn't appear in any o
	f the
	 manuals, and I dont know how to link it with my program. Does it exist
	 in one
	 of the libraries?
	 
	 Thanks for your help,
	 
	 Meir Preiszler
	 Computer Science Department
	 Technion
	 Haifa,Israel
	 
There are two ways you can do this. Put the putimage command with appropriate
options in a buffer and then execute "system" on that buffer. Or, you could
call lputimage  with appropriate argument. I'm surprised that there is no
man entry for lputimage. lputimage is the routine that actually does everything, 
putimage just makes a call to lputimage (or for that matter, any main routine
sets up parameters and calls an lroutine  which does all the work.) You can
take a look at the source of putimage in KHOROS_HOME/src/xv_routines/putimage.c
to find out what arguments are needed. lputimage itself is in 
KHOROS_HOME/src/xv_routines/lputimage.c but I don't think you'll need to 
look at that.

Pradeep
From: casadei@cesena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Klamer Schutte, FAIRHEAD Laurent, Adam Janin, I can not reach you !! (..C++ code for khoros...)
Date: 11 Sep 92 02:18:35 GMT


I have tried many times for a few days but our system
could not interpret the name of your host. Could you please
send me the ID number of your host ?

Klamer, this is the message I had for you (regarding C++ code for
khoros):

>Thank you for your reply. Yes, I think I am really interested.
>Please, let me know if and how I can get your code. Thanks.
>Stefano

Adam, you might want to write also to Klamer for C++ code.
Laurent, (please vote YES) I have some info for you but
it is too long to be put here.

I apologize for this abuse of the khoros group (which, by the way,
is the most well-run newsgroup that I read). 

Stefano
From: tckaspar@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: User's group mailing list
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:40:40 GMT

Sorry to be a bother, but I have dicovered the USENET Newsgroup comp.soft-sys.khoros and find that it contains all the stuff you've been sending me by e-mail.Therefore, I would like to be listed as a user, but don't need to have anything included in the Newsgroup sent to me directly, if that's possible.  Thanks for your help.

I'm still looking for help with measuring the length of plant roots (thread-like objects that intersect and cross).  I've had a helpful response from Greg Donohoe and Shirley Lee, but I received messages from ec16khor@uk.ac.leeds.ucs.cms1 and another user that came through garbled and unreadable.  I would appreciate it if those users would resend.  Thanks.

Tom Kaspar
USDA-ARS
National Soil Tilth Lab
Ames, IA
tckaspar@iastate.edu
From: tracey@cs.wm.edu (Tracey Beauchat)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Compiling patch 5 under 4.1.2 problems
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:58:42 GMT


I remember in the mailing list problems about compiling
khoros patch5 under SunOS 4.1.2.  I stupidly deleted that
part of the mailing list.  Could you please refresh my memory
as to what the problem is, and some fixes.  Thanks.

-Tracey

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Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: jgs@photon.uucp (Joe Shanks)
Subject: Re: viff2sgi sgi2viff
Organization: Photon Research Associates, Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 06:10:09 GMT

cclee@sisrl.sony.com (C.C. Lee) writes:
: 
: Should you know about the programs/utilities which can convert SGI image 
: files (Silicon Graphic Inc.) to viff image files and vice versa, please 
: let me know. Any pointers are much appreciated.
: 
: C.C. Lee

     Assuming that the 'SGI' image format you refer to == 3 bytes/pixel,
= r.g.b. format, you can convert 

Viff --> S.G.I.:
		    Vbandcomb     Viff2Tiff       IMGCOPY

	r. byte image.vf  
	g. byte image.vf  ==> 3band.vf ==> 3band.tif ==> 3band.sgi
	b. byte image.vf

and simply reverse it for S.G.I. --> Viff.  IMGCOPY is a S.G.I. utility
which is part of O.S. 4.0.x, I think (we have it on our INDIGOs
and IRIS Workstations).  Note that you can use IMGVIEW to view the
*.tif and the *.sgi images. 

--
								Joe Shanks
----
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Joe Shanks   					jgs@photon.com
From: hsg@lem.cs.duke.edu (Henry Greenside)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Khoros versus AVS and Explorer
Date: 13 Sep 92 02:43:55 GMT
Distribution: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Organization: /home/lear2/hsg/.organization


This must be a FAQ: how does Khoros fit into commerical
scientific visualization packages such as AVS and
Explorer? I am looking for free or low-cost
visualization programs for my computational nonlinear
dynamics group. Our needs:

1. Animate data as 2d 8-bit or 24-bit images
(representing time-dependent fields on some domain),
with easy variation of color map. XImage of NCSA is a
popular but not terribly well-implemented program of
this kind.

2. X-y plots of all kinds, with mathematical labels and
hopefully Postscript output for journal quality
publications.

3. Rendering of data in 3D, slicing, and projections.

4. Ease of use.

We have access to a mixture of Sun's as well as one IBM
RS/6000 with GtO graphics, and a SGI 4D/440.

Are therer plans to use OpenGL (or GL) in khoros, so
that the program can take advantage of graphics
hardware?

	Thanks,

	Henry
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: mcinerney@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Subject: Cantata on the NeXT
Reply-To: mcinerney@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 19:47:09 GMT

I am trying to get Cantata to work on the NeXT but am having trouble finding a
suitable X-windows.  Does anyone know of a good X-windows for the NeXT color
machines? or, does anyone know of a Cantata clone that uses the NeXT GUI?

Michael McInerney
From: <MLBISHOP%UCRVMS.BITNET@vm.usc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject:  KHOROS requirements
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:52:11 GMT

We are interested in Khoros, but do not currently have a workstation on which
to run it, wo we are investigating several options.  The latest information
I have is dated 11-8-91, so I may not be current.

1.  Has Khoros been compiled to run on a 486 (50 MHz) DOS, OS-2, or UNIX
platform?  The Khoros level 1.0 release announcement we have says that some
users have "ported" it to run on a 486, but I am unfamiliar with this
terminology.  Could you please briefly explain?

2. If you have not compiled it for a 486 machine, could you possibly give me
names and addresses of any users who have done so?

3.  If we can run on a 486, are there any disadvantages to running on a
workstation?

4.  If we buy a workstation, it would be primarily to run Khoros, at this
time.  Of the machines listed in the release announcement, is there one
which seems to give better performance when running Khoros?

Thank you for any info you can provide.