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From: long-morrow@cs.yale.edu (H. Morrow Long)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: What is macrovision?
Date: 22 Dec 1992 09:40:50 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
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In article <1992Dec21.211210.25198@ncsu.edu>, kester@mte.ncsu.edu (Dan Kester) writes:
|> In article <4582@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
|> >In article <1992Dec14.120611.17364@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>
|> tandri@eecg.toronto.edu (Sudarsan Tandri) writes:
|> ><
|> ><Is there some sort of copy protection on VHS tapes?
|> >
|> >Where have you been all these years? :-)
|> >
|> >Macrovision has been applied on tapes since somewhere around 1985.
|> 
|> 
|> I have been thinking of getting a second VCR and would like to use it for
|> copying tapes I havn't watched but need to return to the video store.  Somy
|> question is: what is this macrovision thing, and will it keep me from copying
|> rented tapes? Any simple way to get around it?  Thanks. If this is a stupidly
|> basic question for this group, excuse me.  I've been elsewhere!

Look in the back of Video magazine (or the resurrected Video Review mag
if you can find it on newsstands) - there should be several ads for
so-called "Macrovision(tm) eliminators" from mail order places with
phone numbers you can order them from.  The ordinary garden variety
are around $50, those with added S-Video input/output are closer to
$100.

Note : this above paragraph is provided for informational purposes only
	and is not intended to encourage the sale or use of such devices 
	to defeat copy protection on videocassettes.  Some parts of the
	law may be fuzzy in this regard - such as whether or not it is
	legal to copy rented videocassettes for later viewing because
	you have to get them back to the store (and you plan on erasing
	or recording over the copy after you view it) - if there is 
	anyone with a relevant legal background please let us know.
From: Blue-Knight@bknight.jpr.com (Yury German)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Some Really Stupid S-VHS questions ...
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X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 30 Dec 92 05:27:14 GMT
Organization: Blue Knight Productions

In article <1992Dec29.104621.14221@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> earle@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Greg Earle - Gainfully Unemployed) writes:
> 
> (1) I keep forgetting this, but what is the resolution of S-VHS vs. normal VHS?
>     Isn't it something like 425 lines vs. 330?

	Well it depends on the VTR/Camcorder. Most SVHS camcorders record
and display in the 425-540 range. Normal VHS is 320 if I am correct
> 
> (2) Now that I know how to record in S-VHS mode (-:, do I need a special kind
>     of tape to do so?  I can't recall seeing blank VHS tapes that have an S-VHS
>     symbol on them; I just see stuff like "HiFi - recommended for HiFi VCR's"
>     and the like.  If I need a special S-VHS tape, where do I get it?  Some
>     obscure camera/video store (I mean, that's where I went when I needed an
>     S-VHS cable to hook the camera to my Sony TV, so ... )?

	Well there are around. Usually they run at about $5-7 a tape but
they do have better resolution. You do need SVHS tape to record SVHS.
(call mail order if you have to... .just get one of the video mags). 

> 
> (3) The Panasonic has what looks to be a pretty decent set of VCR functions
>     built-in; there's a slider on top that can be pushed in the "For VCR
>     Play/Rec" arrow direction, revealing a set of small buttons for
> 	Rec  Dub  Rew  Play  FF  Pause  Stop
>     There's also "Search" and "Search  Still" labels underneath the buttons.
> 
>     Given that is has this VCR-esque setup, and it has S-Video input & output,
>     is there any point in getting an S-VHS VCR to play back the S-VHS tapes I
>     can now make, now that I've figured out how to make them?  (-:

	Well if you want you can... in fact the Pansonic Consumer VCR's
out there can play back SVHS tapes in SVHS resolution and go for around
$300 or so. But you could always use the camera.
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From: tquinn@heartland.bradley.edu (Terry Quinn)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Hi-8 Video Tapes
Date: 22 Dec 1992 19:46:45 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: tquinn@heartland.bradley.edu
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Alan Larson writes:
 
> -> temporary loss of signal that exceeds 15 microseconds.  He agrees 
> -> that the more serious ones display as a sparkle, and you would be 
> -> unlikely to see a 15 microsecond dropout (too short).  The 
 
>  This neglects the observation that 15 microseconds is about 1/4 the
>width of the screen on a scan line, and is likely to be *very* obvious.
 
Hmmmm . . . damn good point.  I just checked your math, and you 
are correct.  I may have put words into his mouth in the 
discussion that he let slip through.
 
 

--
                                    Terry Quinn
                                     Germantown Hills, IL
                                      tquinn@heartland.bradley.edu
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From: jagrant@emr1.emr.ca (John Grant)
Subject: digital video camcorders? 
Organization: Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:43:27 GMT

Why are camcorders (8mm,vhs-c,etc) still analogue?  If DAT is so great,
why aren't there any camcorders recording digitally (DAT or similar)?
Doesn't DAT have enough bandwidth for video?  Can anyone give some numbers
for the equivalent bandwiths?

-- 
John A. Grant						jagrant@emr1.emr.ca
Airborne Geophysics
Geological Survey of Canada, Ottawa
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From: t90534am@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Akira Mito)
Subject: Re: SVHS questions
Organization: Department of Environmental Information,Keio University Shonan
	Fujisawa Campus(SFC),Japan.
Distribution: worl
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 04:01:48 GMT

 Happy New Year!!

In article <78920001@hpsgrt1.sgp.hp.com>
kjb@hpsgrt1.sgp.hp.com (Joo-Beng KOH) writes:

 |  Is there some comparative chart for the specs for normal TV, SVHS and HDTV ?
 |  And what about the comparison between NTSC, PAL and SECAM ?

For NTSC,

 Normal TV broadcasting has upto 330 lines of horizontal resolution.
 VHS                             220
 BetaI?,II                 about 300
 SVHS/Hi8                        400
 LD                              425
 EDBeta                          500

 Monitor TVs like Sony XBR, has potential to project 600~800 lines.

 NTSC is American TV standard, PAL is an Europian standard, and
SECAM is Socialists' standard. I'm afraid that HDTV follows this
chaos. Japan introduced first HDTV system `Hi-Vision' in early 80s
to unify HDTV; it doesn't have any big compatibility to every TV
standards but has possibilities to convert from any TV standrads
at less memoies totally and many constants are conducted from
ergonomics.... But most easy way to upgrade TV is to just twice
the number of lines. To say, it's the Tower of Babel!

 NTSC is 60 FPS, composed of 525 scan lines(Not all scan lines are shown).
 PAL     50                  625
 SECAM   50                  625

 Hi-Vision
         60                 1125

 And, there are many varieties.

 |  Are SVHS and S-video the same things ? i.e. If I have an SVHS camcorder, I
 |  can plug it into the S-video connection on my TV right ? As far as I know,
 |  S-video has seperate chrominance and luminance lines, but how does this
 |  enable higher resolutions ?

 There are many ways to convey color video signal. Easiest way is to
complex chroma and lumina -- like TV broadcasting and RCA yellow plug,
using composite video signal. Another way is to use component signal.
A S-video connecter has 2 sockets, one for chroma, one for lumina.
This is good for improving picture. (The BEST way is RGB digital connect)
 Complexing signals is no good: Uncomplexing needs filters, and
filtering does harm. (Try S sources like Hi8 camera recorded video
on your TV by S-video connected! This WILL take you to the
Hi-definition video world; To see is to believe)

 AND, there's no relationship between S-VHS and HDTV so far.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Akira Mito(E-Mail:t90534am@sfc.keio.ac.jp)
  Junior@SFC(Keio Univ. Shownan Fujisawa Campus) 
  Department: Environmental Information (It's so COOL,isn't it?)
  Director of the SFC Hi-Vision Club, and member of SFC TiME, C-music.
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From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: Re: Photo CD
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:07:15 GMT

>    I'll bet that within the near future CD's will replace the Video tape
>media. The Industry is already using write/read/and re-write CDs in the 
>computing field. Imagine pure digital video/Audio that will make 400 line
>resolution a joke. Pure Video!

The bandwidth and transfer rate aren't there yet.  As has been said many
times, resolution isn't the only measure of picture quality.  With a digital
medium, you get discrete pixels in two directions, where with the current
analog media you only have discrete features in one dimension.  While
"resolution" might be higher with a digital medium, the overall perceived
quality might be lower if the horizontal pixel boundaries are visible.
-- 

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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Any way to *CREATE* VCR Plus codes??
Date: 28 Dec 92 18:30:31 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <BzyB93.E7p@news.udel.edu> jeremym@ravel.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) writes:
<
<I was wondering - my cable listings dont provive codes for
<Comedy Central, channel 39. Drat. I always want to tape
<Mystery Science Theatre 3000 on Friday Evenings and
<Saturday Mornings.
<
<So, I was wondering if anyone WROTE a program that'll
<let you input today's date, the channel you want, the time and 
<length, and the VCR Plus code would be spit out.

The VCPplus information is proprietary.  You won't be able to purchase a
program to do it yourself.

Have you ever thought about programming the VCR the old fashioned way?  It
really does work, you know!
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.satellite,rec.video.production,rec.video.cable-tv
Subject: Re: Timbe Base Correction with Start of Line Generator
Date: 21 Dec 92 06:03:21 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Dec20.233755.13665@rock.concert.net> barber@jazz.concert.net (Scott Barber) writes:
<In article <4610@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
<
<>They all have the proc amp, which allows correction of video levels and color
<>quality.  Today, a TBC has come to mean a unit that not only restores bad
<>sync signals but allows adjustment of video and color.
<
<I see what you're saying, and I imagine most folks that understand
<the technology routinely refer to all the functions collectively, 
<including myself.  But that agreement is based on a clear understanding 
<of the distinction I raised, and I was simply passing it along to
<those who are interested.

I agree with this.  The physical operation of the idea behind a TBC does
not include the proc amp stuff.  But, a device with just a TBC will be totally
unusable in today's video marketplace.  In order to correct for video level
problems, the video gain adjustments of the proc amp are a must.  In order to
mix the video from a tape, the color phase MUST be corrected as well.  Without
it, tape playback would be almost impossible.

So, by today's definition a TBC is the sum of its parts.
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From: pvj@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Paul Jacobson)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:13:15 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Photo CD
Organization: HP Roseville Networks Division
Newsgroups: rec.video

                                                               12/29/92

    I'll bet that within the near future CD's will replace the Video tape
media. The Industry is already using write/read/and re-write CDs in the 
computing field. Imagine pure digital video/Audio that will make 400 line
resolution a joke. Pure Video!

                                  Paul Jacobson

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From: feygin@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin)
Subject: Re: Video tape rewinders
Reply-To: a-feygin@uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 17:39:04 GMT

creps@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Steve Creps) writes:
}    I heard that rewinders may harm your tapes (break the end of the
} tape when it stops).  Has anyone else heard this?

it happened to me once.  fortunately it was a rental tape.


-- 
  Alexander Feygin      "This species has amused itself to death"
 a-feygin@uiuc.edu                -- Roger Waters

The opinions expressed above are those of the author and not CCSO
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: hsu@acuson.com (William Hsu)
Subject: Re: Outboard Dolby Pro-Logic boxes
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:17:50 GMT

pprun@august.it.uswc.uswest.com writes:


>I would like to add Dolby Pro-Logic sound to my sound system.  I realize
>that I need three more speakers (right rear, left rear, and center), and
>maybe a subwoofer eventually.  My Denon integrated amp is too nice to
>scrap for an AV amp.  So I'd like to buy an outboard Dolby box with three
>channels of amplification for my new speakers.  First off, does anyone
>have comments on current boxes (Yamaha has a fairly new one, and Audiosource
>makes a few, but I'm not impressed with Audiosource)?  Second, the manual
>usually states that the Dolby box is connected through the tape monitor
>circuit.  But this would tie up the tape jack.  My amp has a pre-out (output
>directly from the pre-amp).  Would this be too high a level to feed the
>Dolby box?  The Denon manual states that the pre-out rated output level is
>1.0 volt.  Any comments would be appreciated.


The Yamaha DSP-E200 unit has a tape-monitor loop so that it would not tie up
your existing tape monitor loop.  It just replaces the one it takes over.

It is better to use the tape-monitor loop of your integrated amp than to use
the preout, because the DSP unit adds ambience signals that needs to be fed
back to your front L+R speakers.  Unless your Denon unit has pre-out &
main-in (which is almost like a tape-monitor loop except that the output 
level can vary), the additional signals will not come back to the amp.

I have a Yamaha DSP-E1000, and I set the volume control on my receiver to a
constant level.  The DSP unit has a main volume control, plus independent
controls for front, center, and rear channels.  I use my receiver to select
the source, and use the DSP unit to control the volume.

The Yamaha DSP units are very good.  I definitely recommend them over the
AudioSource.  Having Dolby-ProLogic is only half of the picture, the DSP
sound field processing for audio-only sources is well worth the price of the
unit by themselves.


William
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From: lch3e@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Lauren C. Howard)
Subject: High-End TV's (Proton, NAD...); Worth It? Your opine, please.
Originator: lch3e@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 14:46:00 GMT

  I'm looking at 20-27" sets.  The one store I've been to with properly
adjusted sets, the Proton was slightly better than the Sony xbr2.

  Anyone know how well Protons, NAD's.... of a previous vintage compare?

Thanx in advance.
                    lch3e@virginia.edu

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From: glk9533@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (Greg L. Kimnach)
Subject: Re: Any info on the new Sony 3 CCD camcorder?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center / Cleveland, Ohio
Date: 28 Dec 1992 07:35 EST  

In article <T90534AM.92Dec25161153@cs1.sfc.keio.ac.jp>, t90534am@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Akira Mito) writes...
> Hi everyone, Merry Christmas from Japan!
> 
>In article <5392@calmasd.Prime.COM>
>jpb@calmasd.Prime.COM (Jan Bielawski) writes:
> 
> |	  A recent Video Magazine previews a new Sony Hi8 camcorder (no US model
> |number yet except "Handycam Pro" or something generic like that) with 3 CCDs
> |and a 12x zoom.  The thing looks small and is presumably available in Japan
> |and in Europe already.  Does anyone know the weight?  From the photograph
> |it looks like it has AFM stereo (no PCM stereo).  TBC is not mentioned.
> 
> Yes, what you mention is CCD-VX1. It weighs nearly 2000g with
>S88 NiH battery. Imagine V801 has come with 3CCD. I think I posted
>an article on it before. It doesn't have PCM but has enough AFM
>stereo. I'm having one and enjoying it!   I REALLY recommend it.
> Also, Panasonic has released palm top size 3CCD SVHS-C corder,
>which has TBC, but I prefer VX1.(Both have 530 horizontal lines
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>resolution)
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Remember:  This is a camera spec., not the "quality" of the recorded image.

Greg
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                         ED-Beta: Simply THE BEST!
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From: kzhang@cisco.com (Kui Zhang)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: NTSC -> PAL tape copy info needed
Date: 23 Dec 1992 19:31:51 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Incorporated
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: stout.cisco.com
Keywords: help, NTSC, PAL

Hi,

Does anyone know where I can copy an NTSC VHS tape to a PAL VHS tape ?

Please reply to my email address :  kzhang@cisco.com


Thanks a lot !

.kui
From: sandiway@research.nj.nec.com (Sandiway Fong)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Pioneer CLD-95
Date: 23 Dec 92 22:40:28 GMT
Reply-To: sandiway@research.nj.nec.com
Organization: NEC Research Institute
Originator: sandiway@gb


Hi,

  I'm about to take the plunge and buy a laserdisc player (as well as a
projection tv etc, I have quite a few technical questions on that, but that'll
come later). After reading the recent posting by William Cruce, I'm very
tempted to buy the Pioneer Elite CLD-95 solely on the basis of that very nice
review.

(I have seen the 701 and the cheapest Elite player (CLD-52?), but I've been
unable to find a place in central NJ that has both the 701 and the 95
side-by-side to do a real A-B test.)

I have a couple of questions about the CLD-95 that I hope those of you who
have experience with the player will be able to answer:

1. The CLD-95 also plays CDs. How good is the CD player section?
   Does it compare to audio CD players, for example, the Theta players?
   Or should I forget it has a CD section, and budget for a real CD player
   instead?

2. Are the Elite players available through mail-order? Or are they only sold
   by high-end dealers who usually charge a lot closer to list price than to
   cost price. I have been quoted $1299 for the CLD-95 by a local dealer. Is
   this reasonable?

Thanks very much,

Sandiway

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NEC Research Institute Inc.
4 Independence Way
Princeton NJ 08540

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Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: david@agora.rain.com (David Robinson)
Subject: Dirty Harry (Widescreen) arrives...
Keywords: Eastwood, Dirty Harry, widescreen
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 10:32:24 GMT

The title says it:  Picked up the above at my local Tower Video tonight.

I was favorably impressed.  Having suffered through my p&s version, I was
immediately struck by a Panavision production with an aspect ratio of
between 2.3 and 2.4 to 1.  The colors were much better than I remembered
on the p&s, while even the ("reprocessed for stereo") digital soundtrack
wasn't too back.

The color was clean; no video noise that I noticed, though some of the
"night time black" looked a little '70-ish...if you know what I mean.

Altogether, a pleasing disc.  If you have the earlier model, tr(ash/ade)
it and get the widescreen edition; it's the same price ($34.95--got it
on sale at $29.95!) as the p&s, and a much better edition.

N.B.:  The "Widescreen Edition" on this Warner issue is written in VERY
small letters on the upper left hand side of the front cover, which is
otherwise identical to the p&s version.  You'll also see the box on the
back side advising you not to panic at the weird black bars...'they're
supposed to be there!'

Heh heh heh....

david



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From: evarjo@polaris.utu.fi (Erkka Varjo)
Subject: Re: VHS SWAPPING/BUYING Newsgroup?
Organization: The Ministry of Silly Walks
Date: 1 Jan 93 05:41:31


In article <C04uEn.2wL@encore.com> dwsmith@bilbo.encore.com (Dwight Smith) writes:

>Is there a newsgroup for identifying VHS-format videos WANTED, and for getting
>information on cheap mail-order/retail sources for buying them? 

Wish there was. I'd imagine there is a demand for a rec.video.marketplace.
Or rather rec.video.marketplace.[ntsc|pal|secam|ld] to avoid confusion.

Maybe a CFV would be in order?

>-Dwight
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Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Daddy Long Legs on Video?
From: accajt@vaxa.hofstra.edu
Date: 22 Dec 92 17:13:55 EST


	Does anyone out there know if "Daddy Long Legs" (Fred 
Astaire, Leslie Caron, Fred Clark) has ever been released on video, 
if so where to get it, if not -- why?  I know that Astaire's estate 
owns the rights to many if not all of his movies -- are they 
preventing the release for some reason?  I'm also interested in 
a couple other related Astaire items (thanks in advance for any info ):

1.  His TV Specials (featuring Barrie Chase)
2.  Funny Face (Audry Hepburn, Eve Arden)




Andrew Jay Thorn

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