HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Exploding Bear Heads (was Re: Biggest Rivalry in the Country?)
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:43:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auburn University, AL

In article <1992Oct8.175842.9648@leland.Stanford.EDU>, tremblay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marc Tremblay) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct7.185703.21882@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
>>>>What are the biggest, oldest, most intense rivalrys in the country and are
>                 ^^^^^^^
>>>>they as intense to both teams?
> 
> Why, that would have to be the BIG GAME, of course. Besides its
.
. (Cal - Stanford stuff zapped)
.
> those. After that, there's a HUGE bonfire that can be seen for miles.
> Thousands show up for this spectacle. A massive effigy of the Cal bear
> sits atop the pile of wood, waiting to be consummed by the inferno. At
> a crucial point, explosives go off, ripping the bear's head apart to
> the delight of the crowd. 

BONFIRES??  Seen for miles?  In California?  I would think members of the
EPA and other environmental groups would show up by the hundreds to protest
something like this!  Or, are they all Stanford fans??  :-)

I'm not sure I even want to THINK about exploding bear heads.  We must be
getting close to the end.....

-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
From: maryb@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Big 8 Rankings (Offense & Defense)
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:11:51 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

From the University Daily Kansan, 10/7/92. Source: The Associated Press.

KANSAS FOOTBALL RANKINGS IN THE BIG EIGHT

RUSHING OFFENSE:          PASSING OFFENSE:          TOTAL OFFENSE:
1. Nebraska               1. Colorado               1. Nebraska
2. KANSAS                 2. Missouri               2. KANSAS
3. Kansas St.             3. Oklahoma               3. Colorado
4. Iowa St.               4. KANSAS                 4. Oklahoma
5. Oklahoma               5. Kansas St.             5. Missouri
6. Missouri               6. Oklahoma St.           6. Kansas St.
7. Colorado               7. Iowa St.               7. Iowa St.
8. Oklahoma St.           8. Nebraska               8. Oklahoma St.

RUSHING DEFENSE:          PASSING DEFENSE:          TOTAL DEFENSE:
1. Kansas St.             1. KANSAS                 1. Oklahoma
2. Oklahoma               2. Kansas St.             2. KANSAS
3. KANSAS                 3. Oklahoma               3. Kansas St.
4. Iowa St.               4. Colorado               4. Iowa St.
5. Nebraska               5. Oklahoma St.           5. Colorado
6. Colorado               6. Missouri               6. Oklahoma St.
7. Oklahoma St.           7. Nebraska               7. Nebraska
8. Missouri               8. Iowa St.               8. Missouri

Posted to r.s.f.c. by "Kansas Mary"
From: elpwestg@nuscc.nus.sg (West)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Football
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:53:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: nuscc.1992Oct16.035355.24188
Organization: National University of Singapore

elpwestg@nuscc.nus.sg (West) writes:
: This is a test.
This is another test - my apologies. I'm sure I only have to do this
once.
From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Sunday morning QB
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:21:22 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <1992Oct13.171149.5946@den.mmc.com>, kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers) writes:
> In article <39382@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi) writes:
> >  The WAC is San Diego State's to lose. They play Hawaii in SD, 
> >  and except for back-to-back road games in ColoSt and Wyoming, 
> >  they have no threats at all. 
> 
> Utah gets to coast against New Mexico and UTEP, then plays at Air Force
> and Fresno State, and finishes at home against Wyoming and BYU.  I'd say
> they have a pretty fair shot at going undefeated in the conference.  So
> (here's another question for the non-existent FAQ), what's the
> tie-breaker for the WAC?
> -- 
> Kevin Rodgers				kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com


The WAC tie-breaker is the same as it is in the Pac10, the team that
went to the Holiday Bowl last doesn't go this time. Which means that
if SDSU and Utah go undefeated in the WAC, Utah is in the Holiday
Bowl, and SDSU goes elsewhere. They shouldn't have any problems
finding a good Bowl game with Faulk as star attraction.

This would be the best case scenario for the WAC conf as a whole to
get two teams into the bowls. BYU still has an outside chance at a
Bowl game if they play well at ND and vs. PSU.

The big game is BYU-Utah. If BYU can win, and SDSU wins the rest of
the way, SDSU is in the Holiday Bowl. The toughest challenge for
SDSU is the back-to-back at ColoSt and Wyoming, not that the
opponents are very good, but the fact that they have to play in the
mountains on the road. If Faulk stays healthy, I don't see how SDSU
can lose another game in the WAC. 



_______________________________________________________
| Prashanth                    |                      |
| U. of California @ San Diego | prash@raman.ucsd.edu |
#######################################################
From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: MSU-UM Gametime
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:01:47 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan

In article <1992Oct9.141143.9314@wl.com> wyborsr@wl.com (Russ Wyborski) writes:

	   The UM-MSU gametime is 3:30 pm.
	   And for people who complained about ND's deal with NBC, have
   you noticed how every Michigan home game this year (4 after Sat.) including
   those against those powerhouses Houston and Oklahoma State have been 
   televised by ABC. I think there is also plans to televise the Minnesota 
   game later in the year. So it isn't just ND that gets overexposed.

I think most people in the country would disagree with the facts above, since
for most of them the UM games have not been telivised.

ND on NBC is always national.  The ND/Mich game was national, and would have
been if it were in Ann Arbor because of the rankings.  The rest were, I
believe, all regional.  With a wl address, you wouldn't happen to be posting
from Huron Parkway, would you?  That would explain all the regional coverage.

But they have been the regional game a lot, it seems.

Bill
--
-------------------------------
	Bill Mangione-Smith
	billms@eecs.umich.edu
From: wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: The Bowl Coalition fails yet again
Date: 16 Oct 1992 06:44:08 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

I honestly don't think the Pac-10, Big 10, and the Rose Bowl will
end their association, nor do I think they should.  The Rose Bowl
is still the premiere Bowl because of its tradition and the payout
it gives to the conferences.  The Big 10 and Pac 10 comprise some of
the finest universities in the nation.  Pasadena likes the fans
that come from the midwest (and lately from Seattle).   

And hey, the last Rose Bowl featured a great win by the #1 Huskies.

William F. Tell
UC Berkeley

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From: mminihan@inetg1.ARCO.COM (Mike Minihan)
Subject: Re: UT at Austin seriously???
Organization: ARCO Oil and Gas Company
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:44:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.150952.2448@ods.com>, scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
writes:
> Bill Dostalik (dostalik@utdallas.edu) wrote:
>                         ~~~~~~~~
> : Of course there's football in Texas!  Great High School football.  But
> all
> : the smart ones come up to Oklahoma to play their college ball.  Guess
> there
> : haven't been enough smart ones lately to beat the steers.  That'll
> change.
> 
> Of course, there are no computers in Oklahoma, so they all have to dial
> in on their 300bps modems to get net access....
> 
> Oh yeah, when exactly *was* the last time the laters beat the cows?
> 
	1985: OU 14  TX 7
	1986: OU 47  TX 12
	1987: OU 44  TX 9
	1988: OU 28  TX 10

	70's -> OU: 6-3-1
	80's -> OU: 5-4-1
	90's -> TX: 3-0-0

> -- 
> Scott Harper                       Optical Data Systems, Inc.
> scott@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
> (214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081

-- 

Mike Minihan      mminihan@arco.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college,rec.travel
From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Public Computer Lab(s) wanted
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 04:03:13 GMT

I'm going to be in Gainesville, FL for the Auburn-Florida game this weekend. 
Does anyone know of any public computer labs that have internet access?  PCs
are fine as all I want to do is telnet back home.  Come to think of it, we
might wind up in Tallahassee as few days later.  Are there any public labs
there?

Thanks for the help!!
-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@accs.duc.auburn.edu 
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From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Re: tu at Austin football
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:10:08 GMT

Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith (gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu) wrote:
: - goober (damn, i'm a smart ass) smith
                        ^^^^^^^^^
I'd take that over "clueless cow" any day!

-- 
Scott Harper                       Optical Data Systems, Inc.
scott@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081
From: ds4@north6.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: The NEW Penn State MNC Scenario!
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:50:57 GMT

In article <1atvjnINNoho@agate.berkeley.edu>, grantham@jif.berkeley.edu (Jon Grantham) writes:
|> Ah, Steve, you miss the real beauty of the super-secret *real* Penn State
|> MNC scenario, which has Penn State beating Michigan in the Blockbuster Bowl
|> for the MNC.  You see, Michigan will go undefeated in the Big Ten, *but*
|> so will suprisingly good Wisconsin.  Since Michigan & Wisconsin don't play
|> each other this year, Wisconsin, since it last went to the Rose Bowl some
|> time back in the Eisenhower administration*, it gets to go and play then
|> #1 Washington.  #2 Michigan & #3 Penn State meet in the Blockbuster Bowl.

Good try but the second place BIG Ten team is locked into the WAC Bowl (What ever
it is called...the Holiday?) :)

|> (Michigan gets to the Blockbuster Bowl by the same hocus-pocus that got
|> Washington there in the UCLA scenario.)  Wisconsin stuns the Huskies
|> by winning on a last-minute field goal.  The problem with this scenario, of
|> course, is that Elvis will suffer a mysterious injury & thus Todd Collins
|> will *not* throw a last-minute interception.  Instead, he will guide
|> Michigan into field-goal range (which, this year, better be pretty damn
|> close) & whoever's kicking for Michigan (who knows, Steve, maybe you...)
|> will kick the game-winning field goal as time runs out & tears stream down
|> Joe Paterno's face.
|> 
|> See, wouldn't that be easy?
|> 
|> Jon  "The Redskins would be winning if Desmond played more" Grantham
|> -- 
|> Jon Grantham					grantham@math.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Subject: The Reports of SMU's Death Greatly Exagerrated (Was Re: SWC Review for 10/3
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:55:48 GMT

>--------------------------------------
>SWC Review For Games the Week of 10/3
>--------------------------------------
>Gary 'Goober' Smith and Jay Boisseau.
>
>SMU at BAYLOR
>-------------
>
>Well, this should shut up the Pony-woofers. SMU is _not_ for real, OK?
>Granted. SMU had seven starters and five backups on the bench serving
>a one-game suspension, but the lost by FORTY-TWO POINTS to a team that
>does not deserve to be ranked. Case closed.

Hey, (to borrow a classic r.s.f.c. quote) I'm 99.97% certain SMU will play
in the Cotton Bowl this season.

GT
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami's whining
From: William Karamo Motley <wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:56:17 -0400 
Organization: Sophomore, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

aholdern@zeus.calpoly.edu (Andrejs Abolins Holderness) writes:
>Why is it that miami has to complain about everything..even in victor  y.
>Miami has chosen to be independant so that they can schedule mostly
>...with a couple of decent teams thrown in. This assures
>them a title hunt even when they may not deserve it(last year for example)
>So until they get a conference with tough opponents each week, I guess
>we'll have to hear complaints each week whether they win or lose.         i

    Oh, so I guess Washington has the toughest schedule, huh?  Name one
top ten team they have played?  Miami has already played two!  In case
you can't remember, FSU and PSU!


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Subject: Re: Best marching band
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date:  8 Oct 92 04:47:17 GMT

rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera) writes:

>Personally, I like the discussions but think they should go elsewhere.
>Maybe the r.s.f.c band folks and the alt.drumcorp folks could put out
>a call-for-votes for rec.music.people.who.march.while.playing.

Awww, what about those of us who don't march and play at the same time?

Personally, I don't see what the big deal is -- this thread does not
generate an incredible amount of traffic compared to the rest of
r.s.f.c, and we are talking about marching bands at _college_football_
games, after all.  If you don't like it, feel free to put "band" in
your kill file and quit complaining.

Adam Elman
aelman@cs.stanford.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: apalon@stein.u.washington.edu (Andrew Alleman)
Subject: Re: AP Top 25 (Was Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:51:15 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.091651.19236@walter.cray.com> kmartin@dogwood.cray.com (Kenneth B. Martin) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.185037.18585@u.washington.edu> apalon@stein.u.washington.edu (Andrew Alleman) writes:
>>In article <TOMA.92Oct12142345@db.TC.Cornell.EDU> toma@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Rory Toma) writes:
>>>Miami and Wash play a common opponent, Arizona. If Arizona goes up to
>>>Washington, and doesn't do as well as they did against Miami, then you
>>>have your answer. Wash #1. If they do better than they did against Miami,
>>>then Miami #1. 
>>
>>I agree with you on this.  This will be the most reliable data point to
>>apply when comparing Miami and Washington.  Transitive properties simply
>>don't work in College football.  BTW - Washington plays AT arizona.
>>
>>-- Andy
>
>
>This is not right!!  You can't say that if Arizona plays worse against Washington    
>than they did against Miami, that Washington is #1!  How could you even make 
>such a stupid statement?  Many conditions could make the game outcome different
>for Washington than it was for Miami.  Any three of the teams could have a 
>good or a bad day which would effect the outcome, home-field advantage effects 
>the outcome, and injuries and emotion effect the outcome!  Any given team can 
>beat any other given team on any given day if the "conditions" are right.  
>Think!!
>
>--Ken

I know it is flawed, but how else do you propose to compare two teams that
will not play each other?  You need some way to generate objective data, and
this is one way (along with many others).  If you discount everything as 
invalid, then what's the point of the rankings?  Should they really be 
purely subjective?

-- Andy

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu (Kurt Ludwick)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Best marching band
Date: 7 Oct 92 05:59:28 GMT
 <92280.000747KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> <AeoSSny00iV304llsz@andrew.cmu.edu>
 <1992Oct6.174846.8232@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Oct6.174846.8232@doug.cae.wisc.edu>,
saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) says:

>In principle I agree with you, but what other board do you suggest people

I don't.  College bands are as much a part of college football as all these
strange polls and contests floating around.  This is a perfectly logical
place to discuss them.

------------
Kurt Ludwick
------------
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn)
Subject: I-AA Preview for October 17, 1992 (1 of 4)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 10:00:07 GMT

Last week's scores and this week's schedule:

Last Week:

East:

Army 38  Lafayette 36                   UMass 32  Rhode Island 7
Bucknell 29  Columbia 22                Northeastern 42  Lehigh 28
Cornell 31  Harvard 13                  Princeton 28  Brown 14
Dartmouth 48  Holy Cross 0              Villanova 27  UConn 20
Delaware 49  Boston U. 14               William and Mary 21  Penn 19
Maine 42  Liberty 20                    Yale 31  Fordham 12

South:

Alcorn St. 46  Texas So. 36             Middle Tenn 49  Austin Peay 10
Appalachian St. 27  James Madison 21    NE Louisiana 52  McNeese St. 35
the Citadel 33  Tenn-Chattanooga 13     Nicholls St. 19  Sam Houston 19, tie
Delaware St. 27  Towson St. 13          Richmond 15  New Hampshire 7
E. Tenn. St. 62  Charleston So. 0       Samford 46  Eastern Kentucky 14
Florida A&M 21  NC A&T 7                SC St. 31  Morgan St. 14
Georgia 34  Georgia So. 7               Southern 47  Winston-Salem St. 14
Grambling 49  Mississsippi Valley 6     Tenn-Martin 13  Murray St. 7
Howard 26  Bethune-Cookman 7            Tenn. St. 24  Morehead St. 14
Jackson St. 21  Alabama St. 7           Tenn. Tech 49  SE Missouri 14
Marshall 48  Furman 6                   Western Carolina 28  VMI 25

Midwest:

E. Illinois 31  Indiana St. 28          W. Illinois 50  S. Illinois 42
N. Iowa 34  W. Kentucky 6               Youngstown St. 34  Illinois St. 10

Southwest:

NW Louisiana 37  N. Texas St. 34        Troy St. 41  Arkansas St. 7
SW Texas 17  SF Austin 14               W. Texas St. 21  Prarie View 15

Far West:

Boise St. 20  N. Arizona 14             Idaho 49  Idaho St. 18
E. Washington 23  Montana St. 17        Weber St. 24  Montana 7

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

This weeks schedule (in no particular order)

Appalachian St. at VMI
Tenn. Tech at Austin Peay
Weber St. at Boise St.
Richmond at Boston U.
Nicholls St. at Central Florida
Marshall at the Citadel
UConn at UMass
Delaware at Villanova
E. Ill at W. Ill
E. Kentucky at Middle Tenn
Idaho at E. Washington
E. Tenn. St. at Louisiana Tech
James Madison at Georgia So.
Idaho St. at Montana St.
SW Missouri St. at Illinois St.
Glenville St. at Indiana St.
Troy St. at Liberty
Rhode Island at Maine
NW Louisiana at McNeese St.
N. Arizona at Montana
Murray St. at Morehead St.
Youngstown St. at Northeastern
Sam Houston St. at NE Louisiana
N. Iowa at S. Illinois
N. Texas St. at SF Austin
SE Missouri at Samford
W. Carolina at Tenn-Chattanooga
Tenn-Martin at Tenn. St.
Towson St. at William and Mary
Texas So. at Alabama St.
Alcorn St. at Prarie View
Bethune-Cookman at SC St.
Lehigh at Brown
Cornell at Colgate
Columbia at Penn
Yale at Dartmouth
Florida A&M at Delaware St.
Fordham at Hofstra (Friday game)
Harvard at Lafayette
Princeton at Holy Cross
Jackson St. at Southern
Central St. at Morgan St.


OPEN: Bucknell, Furman, Grambling, Howard, Mississippi Valley, New Hampshire, 
NC A&T, SW Texas.

PDunn
From: al.sorhaindo@brent.uucp (Al Sorhaindo) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: UN: '91 UM-PSU & '92 UW-U
Date: 11 Oct 92 21:39:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Brentwood BBS Harrison, NY  914-835-7898
Reply-To: al.sorhaindo@brent.uucp (Al Sorhaindo) 

CS>The only way a ball intercepted in the
CS>endzone could lead to a safety is if the defensive player
CS>tried to run it out,then changed his mind and went back into
CS> the end zone and downed the ball.

Which is exactly what happened in last season's Penn. State at Miami game,
except that officials did not notice.

Penn State trailed 26-20 with about 1:00 remaining. On a 4th and nine
from midfield Tony Sacca heaved the ball into the endzone.

(Which made no sense, he had the opportunity to run and maybe get a
first down instead of making a desperation toss.)

A Miami DB intercepted in the endzone.

(He should only have batted down the fourth down pass, but
no one seems able to pass up a chance for an interception.)

The interceptor couldn't decide to bring the ball out or not, and finally
downed the ball, but not after apparently crossing the plane of the goal 
line Had the officials made the call, it potentially would have 
been one of the all time bonehead plays.
---
 . DeLuxe. 1.21 #11688 . al.sorhaindo@execnet.com
From: UCPL085@UNLVM.UNL.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Husker Football
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:14:03 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska
NNTP-Posting-Host: unlvm.unl.edu

It looks like the BIG RED should give Miami a better game in the Orange Bowl
this Jan 1st..  Of course we still have to face our arch rival OKLAHOMA. This
years game should be interesting with both teams passing more. Well I guess the
BIG 8 is finally catching  up with the rest of the country...
From: aholdern@zeus.calpoly.edu (Andrejs Abolins Holderness)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Miami's whining
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:24:35 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

Why is it that miami has to complain about everything..even in victor  y.
Miami has chosen to be independant so that they can schedule mostly
creampuffs...with a couple of decent teams thrown in. This assures
them a title hunt even when they may not deserve it(last year for example)
So until they get a conference with tough opponents each week, I guess
we'll have to hear complaints each week whether they win or lose.         i
From: atchison@harp.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Those who don't study history (Illinios/Ohio State)
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:08:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: cis.1992Oct12.190827.24825
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science

In article <1992Oct12.180525.10537@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes:
>What the hell was Makovic thinking when he took a point off the board to go
		   ^^^^^^^
>for two?  With all the time that he must have put in studying game films, you
>would think he might have noticed what happen to OSU last week when Cooper did
>this.  Had he lft the point up there, OSUs field goal attempt would have been
>to tie the game rather than to win it.
>     - Pat
>-- 
>- Patrick E. Fleming -------------------------------------------------------
>- Department of Chemistry -------------- Visitors scored on the home rink --
>- Ohio Wesleyan University ------------- Everything seems to be wrong... ---
>- pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ---------------------------------------


Thinking how glad he was not to be at Illinois, no doubt!  See what too much 
time watching Notre Dame will do to you? ;^) 

-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
 Mark Atchison, a.k.a. <atchison@cis.ohio-state.edu>; Graduate Student in the
Computer Science Dept, THE Ohio State University (NOT an Ohio State University)
		Any plagiarisms seen above are not my own...
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