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From: jerry@stratford.dab.ge.com (Jerry Szulinski)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Fun with cagers or I'm bored.
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:05:37 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: GE Simulation & Control Systems

In article <1992Sep9.160830.20259@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.151243.27624@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm) writes:
>>	While riding down the parkway on Saturday, I noted that some 
>>	guy in  a cage was jockying for position through 2 sets of lights
>>	to get close to me on my bike.  After the 2nd set of lights he was
>
> For a chuckle try doing what I ALWAYS do:
>Stay just ahead of said cager, ie., just your front wheel.
>They think they almost have you but no matter how hard they beat it
>they just can't seem to pull ahead.
>Perverts please disregard last sentence.

Come on, I'm disappointed in you; this was not a response worthy of a true
DOD'er ... please sombody take away his number, quick.

Pleas follow the Manly DOD'er Manual (tm) page 3874 and repeat after me:
1. Pull about a bike length ahead of him (so he can enjoy the show better); 
                    stay in your lane
2. Turn around 
3. Spread your free arm back and move your shoulders as if trying to say: 
      "That's it??? ....That's all you've got???...You got me all 
                       flustered for this???"
4. Don't forget to shift once in a while.
5. Wave to him erratically (not erotically...unless you really want to)
6. Roll an the gas and pull away hard; in case he thought you were really
                    struggling with him...HeHeHe.
After this, the cager will have no doubt as to what kind of DOD'er you 
_really_ are. 'Till next time, this is Mr. Manly DOD'er saying goodbye
and be manly.

- No guys, I've never done that myself, honest...I just made this all up...
  I always let the jerk go instead of engaging in this immature display of
  immaturity. Did I mention that this is immature and that you'll never see
  _me_ doing it....really.

Jerry "Mr. Manly DOD'er" S.             

KotM.......Keeper of the Manliness ?????  HeHeHe.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: slappers
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 13:36:38 GMT

Gary Woodman (gjw900@anu.edu.au) wrote:
: In article <71810@apple.Apple.COM> thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson) writes:
: 
: >There are differing opinions on how to handle a tank slapper.
: >Some suggest relaxing your grip on the handlebars to allow the
: >bike to sort itself out.  Others recommend gripping the bars
: >firmly to attempt to dampen the oscillation.  I've tried both
: 
: I once had a bike with a bent front swing-arm which would chuck a wobbly 
                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: whenever I slowed down past about 30 km/h; a touch on the front brake would 
: snap it back into line.
: 
: --
: Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au         This post made from 100% recycled electrons.

Are you sure about this????


Nick (the picky Biker)     DoD 1069   MAG 73516    Concise Oxford

M'Lud.
From: weaver@castor.cs.uga.edu (Mike Weaver)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: key fobs
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:57:53 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <venki.715836730@charlie> venki@ece.scarolina.edu (Venki M. S. Iyer) writes:
>hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm) writes:
>
>
>>	Gimmie key fob too.
>
>>	(ok, I'll pay)
>
>
>Oh well, in that case, I'll take one too. :-).
>

Mark me down for one as well.

-- 
________________________________________________________________________________
Michael Weaver            |"Where ever you go, There will be something in your
weaver@castor.cs.uga.edu  | way." --Banzai Clutter Theorm
DoD#0529    KotGB         | 1982 Yamaha Vision 550 --  It's feeling better.
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Advice wanted on defending yourself in court
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:21:16 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:

>In article <BD.92Sep6105725@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>
>> The question is not whether he was riding 
>>safely (I recall him being hit for speeding, not reckless driving),
>>but whether he was breaking the law.  I say if _he_ knows he was
>>guilty then he should have the guts to admit it, pay the fine, take
>>the points, stop whining, and act like an adult.
>
>The traffic court judge I just saw in action would seem to disagree with you.
>In each case of speeding, the defendants claimed that their speed, while 
>exceeding the posted limit by the amount the officer specified, was not
>an unsafe speed for the conditions. In 1 instance, the judge was familiar
>with the road, agreed with the defendant, and dismissed the charges. In the
>other 2 cases, the judge was unfamiliar with the road, said he would personally
>drive those roads at the speeds for which the drivers were cited, and if, in
>his opinion, those roads COULD be safely driven at those speeds, he would
>dismiss the tickets.

Good for him!  I think you'll find this is the exception, rather than the
rule.

>As for "acting like an adult", well, perhaps you should take it to heart, 
>unless you believe that acting like an adult means lecturing someone to 
>"stop whining".

Pot calling the kettle black, here?  Anyway, I don't recall lecturing - I
do recall responding to a request for suggestions.  If you don't like the
suggestion, that's fine, but please don't give me flack for responding when
the person asked for responses.
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Least Favorite Road Sign
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 14:06:34 GMT

When I was working in Brussels, I often had to go through the southern 
periphery, through the forests.  The roads were... ...  interesting...  When we
had the very bad winds, a few years ago (Belgium lost half its trees!) they had
illuminated sigbs up showing a 	fallen tree on top of a car.  That always made
the journey THAT little bit more interesting.  They put barriers up to make 
people take The Ring, but usually I would go around the barriers and take my
chances.

Good signs here, in Blighty, are the ones with deer on.  Also the ones with a
rockfall on and, best of all, the ones near Cheltenham with frogs on.  They
don't half make your front wheel slide!!!

Interesting riding to you all!


Nick (the reckless Biker)    DoD 1069   MAG 73516  Concise Oxford

M'Lud.
From: rtaraz@bernoulli.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: stupid people
Date: 10 Sep 92 10:36:46
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
NNTP-Posting-Host: bernoulli.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu's message of 9 Sep 92 17:02:40 GMT

>>>>> On 9 Sep 92 17:02:40 GMT, scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears) said:

scs8> Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu

scs8> In article <BuAFtu.JM6@wpi.WPI.EDU> rtaraz@wpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin
scs8> Taraz) writes: story about [stupid people who pissed me off.]
scs8> deleted

>anyway, my point is that it seems like all these people with sports
>cars feel like they have to beat a motorcyle (which they cant) to
>make their day.  I guess they are jealous that my 1800$ bike can beat
>their 15000$ car.

scs8> Kind of scary, isn't it. Yeah they're stupid and jealous, but their
scs8> $15,000 dollar car can crush your $1,800 if they're feeling stupid :-(


I dont remember saying that I was about to test the crushability of my
bike against their car.  If I decided to play chicken with a car, then
I would be stupid too.
From: jerry@stratford.dab.ge.com (Jerry Szulinski)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: vanity plates
Date: 15 Sep 92 11:18:10 GMT
Organization: GE Simulation & Control Systems

In article <14SEP199213013247@zeus.tamu.edu> efw5565@zeus.tamu.edu (Evelyn - gorgeous red-headed biker babe...) writes:
>At the BMWOA rally in New Mexico last weekend, I saw
>some great personalized license plates:
>
>    BLU BY U  (on a K100, I think)
>    XPRESO    (on a Ducati 907)
>
>I spent a lot of time on the drive home thinking
>about what I could put on the tags for my bike...
>Anybody out there have personalized plates?
>
>evelyn

My friend's Florida plate has:

            L8R

Jerry S.

P.S. BTW, don't you like those mega-dorky (tm) plate holders that say
     "blew by you; knee drager; 200mph club", and my favorite:"life 
      begins at 170." Actually I remember when it started as :"life begins
      at 140" then 150, 160 and the latest (I think) is 170. Cops must like
      those.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: sysop@elan.glassboro.edu (Ken Denton (Supervisor))
Subject: Re: key fobs
Organization: Glassboro State College, Glassboro, NJ
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:01:56 GMT

>>
>>this is the *first* dod item that i'm willing to come out in public 

Where do I sign? :-)

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%          sysop@elan.glassboro.edu       82 CB750K           %
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis)
Subject: Re: Least Favorite Road Sign
Keywords: oil roads sign
Organization: Iconix Pty Ltd (World Headquarters)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 06:28:47 GMT

In <1992Sep4.193125.14406@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> pfs@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (Paul Schnettler) writes:

>In article <1992Sep4.182815.2167@colorado.edu> laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>>In article <sysop.170@elan.glassboro.edu>, sysop@elan.glassboro.edu (Ken Denton (Supervisor)) writes:
>>|> Saw a sign last month that attracted my attention:
>>|> 
>>|> 	Freshly Oiled Road
>>
>>my least favorite was put up in my honor:
>>
>>        Gravel On Road
>>
>>laz

"Roundabout Ahead"

Ooooooooh. Makes me shudder...

Shckwish!

PS Fave sign is                  "200 k's winding road 
							   no cages or animals ahead
				                   No bright sunlight, 
							    Plenty of petrol stations,
					         All wooden bridges signposted, 
						            no speed limit"

Haven't actually >seen< it yet but it's gotta be out there somewhere...

Shckwish!


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna)
Subject: Re: equal opportunity cheesecake
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Reply-To: behanna@syl.nj.nec.com
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 02:16:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.203956.15560@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> yduj@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Judy Anderson) writes:
>In article <1992Sep14.153625.1807@ohrd.uucp> ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine) writes:
>>Wouldn't it be just as sexy to show a 
>>woman women in well-fitting, sexy leather riding gear who looks like she 
>>has a clue? 
>
>No, because a woman who looks like she has a clue is a threat to many
>male egos.  You have to make sure that no woman ever looks *more*
>competent than a man, or you alienate a large percentage of the
>potential male marketplace.
>
>>If not, is the purposeful exclusion of half the population from
>>motorcycling a wise marketing move?
>
>Looking at it from a practical standpoint, since many women are also
>affected by this "women are inferior" stereotyping that goes on and
>therefore *believe* that they are inferior, you aren't excluding half
>the population; it will take a while (years, decades, generations) to
>break those stereotypes and attract the female market, thus at
>present, it is better to alienate women while pandering to the male
>ego.  You get more sales this quarter this way, and everyone knows
>that 2 sales this quarter are more important than 4 potential sales
>next year.  Those women who do ride, they'll ride anyway, because
>they've overcome the stereotypes and the low self esteem issues.  It's
>gross, it makes me really sad, but it's true.

	yduJ, can you smell what you're shoveling?  Take a good, long whiff.

	Stereotyping is wrong no matter who does it.

Brought to you by the letter "F".
-- 
Chris BeHanna	DoD# 114  KotHLF    1983 H-D FXWG Wide Glide (She lives!)
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com	            (I need another bike for this space!)

Disclaimer:  Now why would NEC agree with any of this anyway?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: equal opportunity cheesecake
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:42:09 GMT

egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:

>Once your attention is gotten, the XYZ emblem is burning itself
>into your brain.                   ^^^

Looks like it didn't work on Ed. :-)

-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: HERE I AM! LOOK AT ME! I'M MAKING A BIG NOISE! I'M SPECIAL!
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:37:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.230029.23786@sequent.com> dickwin@sequent.com (Dick Winningstad) writes:
>You people that ride bikes that are not so quiet get up an yell at
>at these whiners! Bikes are for experiencing the world! They are for

How can you experience the world if you can't hear it?


-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy!!!
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:54:23 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Electric Armts Div, US Army ARDEC, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ

bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.141317.19352@rchland.ibm.com>
>essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum) writes:
>>oil stuff about Mobil1 etc. deleted...
>>
>>or should i just but whatever Mobil1 (15W40?) says synthetic on it?
>>
>
>Mobil 1 comes in 5-30, 10-40 and 15-50.  I use the 15-50 in both my bikes
>most of the year.  Early spring and late fall will find me using 10-40.

10W-30 as well.
-- 
 
                tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil
From: davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Engine broke BMW R80GS help please!
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:51:29 GMT
Organization: Tektronix - Colorado Data Systems, Englewood, CO

In article <5330@tuegate.tue.nl> paul@blade (Paul Derks) writes:
>I think the stem of the valve may be broken. Can anyone shed some light
>
   BMW twin exhaust valves are manufactured by impact-welding a Stellite
stem to a stainless steel head.  It is possible that the valve was
defective when manufactured, but I have never heard of it actually
happening.  It sure sounds like it did in your case.

>If the cylinder is scratched can it be bored or is this impossible
>because the cylinders are coated. If it is possible can it be done
>on one side?
>
   The cylinder can be bored and recoated (in Europe, no one does it in
the US) and used with oversized pistons.  It would have to be done on
both sides for balance reasons.  If the machine is under warranty, the
entire cylinder, piston, and head should be replaced.  If you find metal
shards in the engine oil, the entire engine should be replaced.
    About 2 years ago, BMW shipped approx. 50 bikes with uncoated
cylinders.  One of them was sold to a customer at the Denver BMW shop
before the recall bulletin was received.  The bike ran about 50 miles
before it started billowing enormous clouds of smoke.  BMW was very
apologetic, and shipped a new engine from Berlin via overnight air
freight.  The customer got his bike back with the new engine within two
days.

>
>This has certainly lowered my opinion of BMW. I have driven Japanese bikes
>for 8 years (and on long holidays) and I have never had any problem
>(The bikes were much older to). I have had the BMW for 2.5 months now
>and I am seriously disappointed.
>
  Random defects are possible in any product.  If a batch of exhaust
valves was shown to be bad, or if the field failure rate became
statistically significant, then quality control would be suspect.  If
not, you are the unfortunate victim of chance, and have what is known in
the US as a "lemon."

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: scatlin@bnr.ca (Scot Catlin)
Subject: Advice on Performace Quirk
Keywords: Air Intake
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:44:44 GMT

   On my way to work this mornin' on the trusty mount, I noticed the strangest
 thing.  I turned to look down at the chain while at speed (Breifly mind you) and
 the bike started losing power big time as soon as my leg came away from the
 bike.  I tested this by spreading my legs while riding and, sure enough, the
 bike started to die.  I figure that the air-flow into the carbs through the air
 cleaners gets disrupted.  Would this cause such a drop in power?  Is there
 something else wrong with the bike?  
 
   BTW...  The Air cleaners are not stock.  They are the individual round ones.
 The bike is a '78 KZ650.  Anyone have any experience with this?
 
   Please post to rec.moto as I have no e-mail.  Thanks in advance.
 
                                 Scot
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From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: vanity plates
Date: 14 Sep 1992 18:16:58 GMT
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Originator: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <14SEP199213013247@zeus.tamu.edu>, efw5565@zeus.tamu.edu (Evelyn - gorgeous red-headed biker babe...) writes:
|> 
|> I spent a lot of time on the drive home thinking
|> about what I could put on the tags for my bike...
|> Anybody out there have personalized plates?

How about your sig?

	gorgeous red-headed biker babe . . .

OK, OK, so the periods may not fit!?!?!?

Mark
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Subject: Fatal motorcycle accident in Untersiggenthal
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 05:12:00 GMT

	On Tuesday night, the well-known television personality Louis
Castellazi died of injuries sustained earlier in a single-vehicle accident in
my village.  He was 35.  He was also the son of my landlady.

	The accident occurred on a slight left-hand curve running downhill from
Untersiggenthal to Turgi.  The road is good and relatively wide.  The speed
limit is 60 km/h.  A pedestrian saw the last phases of the accident but the
circumstances leading up to it are unclear.  The bike (an Aprilia Pegasus 600
PD-replica type) hit the kerbstone and crashed onto the footpath, sliding 50
metres into the edge of a corn-field.  Castellazi, unfortunately, hit a
lamp-post and suffered severe head and chest injuries.  He was helicoptered to
the Kantonspital in Aarau, but later succumbed.

	I have some questions about this accident that I'll probably never know
the answers to (I had never met Louis, and communicate with his mother with
some difficulty).  The first question is about his experience -- the bike had
1042 km on the odometer after the crash.  Given the licencing system here, he
should have had some experience on 125s (two years?) before riding a larger
bike, but obviously his experience on the new bike was limited.  The second
concerns what type of helmet he was wearing; given a postulated speed of 80 km/h
(the norm in a 60 zone) I would be surprised that he would sustain severe head
injuries if he was wearing a good full-face helmet.  Given the chest injuries,
perhaps he hit with his chest first and then took an upwards blow on the chin
from the lamp-post.

	Altogether, unpleasant news.  Take care out there.

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
"noematical -- a. Obs. rare;  Originating, or existing, in thought, or in the
 mind alone."	-- Compact Oxford Dictionary
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cel@nsscmail.att.com (clayton EDward LEIHY iii)
Subject: Just Because... (was: Re: equal opportunity cheesecake)
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: NCR Systems Support Center - New Jersey
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:44:05 GMT

In article <viking.716097069@vincent2.iastate.edu> viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
> ... just because you've ordered doesn't mean you can't look at what's on
> the menu.

OR...

Like I tell my wife:

Just because I ride a Gold Wing doesn't mean I can't look at the Ultra Glides!

EDUARDO (DoD#0521)
Nothing is as over rated as a bad fuck or as        | '86 Shadow 700 (hers)
under rated as a good shit" -Laszlo Nemeth, DoD #666| '86 Aspencade (ours)
From: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELP!!!! Someone please tell me what's going on!!
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:23:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computervision

In article <1992Sep11.153419.1004@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> johnny@ennex3.eng.utsa.edu (Johnny Roberts) writes:
>	Perhaps you have some blowby from the cylinders getting into the  
>crankcase complete with unburnt fuel. After the fumes build up, something  
>ignites them and BLAMMO your crankcase explodes! 
>	This is all speculation of course. Save your flames for someone  
>who knows what he is talking about ;-).

Well, in THAT case you should go to Mr. BLAMMO-LLAMA hissef - Jeff Deeney...


Rich Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
Back in the saddle - BONNE'S ALIVE          (617) 275-1800 x 4173
The street giveth and the street taketh away - Catmother
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