From: pavlovic-milan@yale.edu (Milan Pavlovic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.europe
Subject: 19th century poems from Skopje.
Date: 21 Dec 1992 16:37:03 -0500
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Summary: Skopje, land of Serbian culture.
Keywords: skopje, serbian

  Since the Skopjans on this net always talk about the creation of some slavic
"Macedonian" nation in the 1880s, I decided to do a little research on the 
matter and looked over several magazines published in that time period.  I ran
across quite a few poems sung by Skopjans in the second half of the 19th
century, many of which are about (surprise, surprise!) Serbian rulers and the 
Serbian nation.

  I think it's time to add a little culture to these groups by posting the 
poems here.  

  From "Brastvo" magazine, published in Belgrade in 1887.  Pages 109,110 from 
an essay titled "Southern Borders of Dusan's Empire".

Note: Unfortunately, my knowledge of the Serbian dialect used in Skopje is not
all that good, so my translations of the songs into English may not be 100%
accurate. I will do my best though, and I invite any Skopjan netters reading
this to give us a better translation if possible, since this is their language
after all.

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 Seta junak Lazare niz Ohrida,        The hero Lazar is walking through Ohrid
 Niz Ohrida, Lazare, Carigrada,       Through Ohrid, Lazar, the Czar's city,
 Carigrada, Lazare, srpskog grada.    The Czar's city, Lazar, Serbian city.

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 Aj ti tebe, babo, stara bako!	      Hey you, grandma, old grandma!
 Ca te pitam, pravo da mi kazes!      What I ask you, answer me correctly!
 Odasto je Skoplje opustelo,          Why is Skoplje desolate,
 Nase Skoplje, srpsko Carigrade?      Our Skoplje, the Serbian Czar city?
 Petli peju i ljudje ne vladaju,      Roosters sing and people don't rule,
 Nasi ljudje Srbi caroslavni.	      Our people Serbs who celebrate the Czar.

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 Sto ne slusa cara tog svojego,	      Why don't you listen to your Czar,
 Kako slusa cara tudjinskogo,	      As you listen to the foreign Czar,
 Tudjeg cara od Stambola grada,	      The foreign Czar of the city of Istanbul,
 A svojego nece od Prizrena.	      But won't listen to their own of Prizren.

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 More Dunave, more!		      The sea, Danube, the sea!
 More beli Vardare!		      The sea white Vardar!
 More beli Vardare!		      The sea white Vardar!
 Vo srpska zemlja		      This is Serbian country
 Stara staroslavna.		      Old of the old glory.
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Regards,
Milan Pavlovic

 Yes, folks, yet another post easily proves that:
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