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From: bradley@reed.edu (Ben Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: From Bob Kehoe-- Re:  PITSTOP
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:56:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Nov18.195600.19644
Organization: Reed College, Portland OR

Bob Kehoe still has not regained his newsfeed, so he asked me
to forward the following:

PITSTOP - the final lap

Tuesday, November 24th, the checkered (or should we say the black) flag will
drop on the PITSTOP - the weekly motorsports radio program I've been fortunate
enough to present over the airwaves of the Pacific Northwest the past 13 months
(66 2-hour shows to be exact).  The decision to discontinue the show was that
of new station owners, feeling that the context of the show did not fit within
the 'all-sports' nature of the station.  At the moment, I don't know what the
future will bring regarding the resurrection of the show on another station,
but I can say that there's some interest that way down the road.

What I've personally gained in presenting the show has been a greater insight
to the workings within the sport that has been my passion throughout my lifetime.
I've gained many new and lasting friends and have hopefully opened some doors
which I hope to pass through to become even more actively involved with the sport.
Above all, I'd like to thank all the great racing names I've been privileged to
meet and interview, either in person or via the phone lines, during the course
of our run.  It's a list I'm quite proud of and some of the more recognizable
include:  Chad Little...Rolla Vollstedt...Chuck and Jim Bown...Joe Amato...Dane
Pitarresi...Ned Jarrett...Hershel McGriff Sr. and Jr...Chip Hanauer...Dominic
Dobson...Parker Johnstone...Linda Vaughn...Danny Thompson...Don Walker...Bryan
Herta...Bobby Rahal...Bob Latford...Len Sutton...Scott Pruett...Paul Tracy...
Alex Padilla...Adrian Fernandez...Robby Buhl...Margie Smith-Haas...Bobby Archer
...Pete Halsmer...Michael Shoen...Robby Gordon...Hurley Haywood...Al Unser Jr...
Doc Bundy...David Murray...Cass Whitehead...Dan Marvin...Mark Tate...Eddie Hill
...Chris Economaki...Chris Kniefel...Phil Hill...Lyn St. James...plus a host of
local racers from the Pacific Northwest.  As you can see, we pretty much ran the
gamut of all forms of motorsports which attracted a wide audience.

It's been great fun.  I hate to see it end, but life must go on.

bob


If you reply to me I'll forward anything to Bob.  Or you can e-mail
him directly at "bob@ncube.com".

Ben
-- 
Ben Bradley                            Rally Drivers Do It Sideways!!
Reed College
Portland, OR                           The little critters of nature,
bradley@reed.edu                       They don't know that they're ugly.
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From: mc2@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Mike Cox 310-524-7792)
Subject: Rick Wilson to drive for Petty
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not necessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 19:12:56 GMT

It was announced yesterday that Rick Wilson will drive for Petty
Enterprises. That makes it official....

--Mike
From: bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson - Amiga Networking)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: F1: 3 year Technology Freeze
Date: 21 Nov 92 01:00:33 GMT
Reply-To: bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson - Amiga Networking)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Nov19.130038.7421@gdr.bath.ac.uk> bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Andrew Henry) writes:
>Autosport says that Bernie Ecclestone will propose a three year
>freeze on new technology in a January summit meeting. He also
>thinks that a handicap system could be introduced, to add weight
>to the first six finishers, like in the GTCC. He said, "Too many
>people in F1 think short term.  But we must be mindful that we
>are involved in entertainment as well as sport."
>
>Flavio Briatore of Benetton said, "Sponsors have indicated to me
>that they would like to see the trend of 80% of the money going 
>into research, and 20% into entertainment reversed.  They want
>most of their money going into increasing the entertainment value
>of the sport."
>
>Apparently, now that TV coverage is fairly widespread, sponsors
>cannot be offered more exposure than they already get.  Hence
>the priority to reduce the costs and to increase the entertainment.
>
>
>			Andrew  Henry
>Sempre  Gilles					bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk

Ack! Do I hear the words "full course yellow" being whispered in
this?? Say it isn't so.

       Brian Jackson    Amiga Networking Group, Commodore-Amiga Inc.
                        bj@cbmvax.commodore.com
                       uva uvam vivendo varia fit 
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From: cornutt@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (David Cornutt)
Subject: Re: IMSA at AMS
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:29:19 GMT

The rumor I hear is:

IMSA will indeed run at both Road Atlanta and Atlanta Motor Speedway
next year.  Word is that RA will be run in the spring, while AMS
will probably be the last race of the season, and might be run one
weekend before the NASCAR weekend to make a "speedweek" out of it.

-- 
David Cornutt, New Technology Inc., Huntsville, AL  (205) 461-4517
(cornutt@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov; some insane route applies)
"The opinions expressed herein are not necessarily those of my employer,
not necessarily mine, and probably not necessary."
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: mjackson.wbst147@xerox.com (Mark Jackson)
Subject: Re: IndyCar v F1, retiring, old men, etc
Reply-To: mjackson.wbst147@xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Corporation, Webster NY
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:28:59 GMT

In article 14799@meaddata.com, andyw@meaddata.com (Andy Welter) writes:

> I guess keeping your race travel mostly on one continent would be
> easier on families.

If memory serves, Mario Andretti cited this very difference as a major
factor in his move from F1 back to IndyCar.

---
Mark <MJackson.Wbst147@Xerox.COM>

  Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
		- Lord Acton, who is almost always misquoted


Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: chucko@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Chuck Fry)
Subject: Re: World 600
Organization: Recom Technologies, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:46:58 GMT

In article <Bxzorp.G1u@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> wlay@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Radio 90.1 FM WLAY Tarkington Hall) writes:
>That'll make one helluva double-header for the couch-potato crowd:
>Indy at noon (we NASCAR fans will hold our outdoor festivities then!)
>and the 600 at 4:30...

Yeah, but what about those of us at The Speedway?  It'll conflict with
the rebroadcast of the 500!

 -- Chuck Fry  Chucko@charon.arc.nasa.gov  Chucko@westmark.stanford.edu
    "Gentlemen, start your VCRs!"
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Where Elliot poster?
From: <KANTOLA@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:18:34 CST
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

Last year, I went to the Budweiser beer distributer and got a free Bill
Elliot poster.  Well, I lost the damn thing so I went back and they didn't
have anything but said to check out Coor's.  So, I went to Coor's and sure
enough they had jackets, etc.. (expensive) of Bill Elliot and his Coor's
Light Thunderbird (when did he change sponsers?) but no posters.  Any idea
where I can find one??  I'm also looking for Davey Allison's.

                                          Keith (KANTOLA@VM1.NODAK.EDU)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: IMSA history (was Nissan and IMSA)
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:46:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.172433.3443@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, jjn@cbjjn.cb.att.com (Jeff Nappi) writes:

|> Your comments about Mazdas pullout of IMSA doesn't make any sense.
|> Mazda has competed in IMSA racing for decades.  The company is
|> not doing very well financial and there recent announcement about
|> cancelling the upscale Amati line proves this. I too was disappointed
|> that Mazda pulled out of IMSA GTP racing, but rumors are this is
|> only a temporary move.


|> Jaguar has yet to commit to racing this year in IMSA, in fact there
|> are rumors they may go Indy racing this coming year. 

Well, it may not matter *who* pulls out, even if it's only "temporary."
With Nissan and Mazda gone, and if Jaguar goes away too...there may be
no IMSA GTP series any more. I heard the other day that IMSA was getting
together to discuss the future of the series. If this goes away...and I'm
beginning to fear that it will...what does that mean for the rest of the
IMSA classifications? Camel GT was the big publicity and revenue (I am
assuming) generating event.  Without it...the whole organization could be
on it's way out. This is all very depressing.

jds

From: blanch@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (David Blanchard)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 01:20:54 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: IMSA history (was Nissan and IMSA)
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport

Maybe Nissan came to think that as long as they were going to race cars
that have nothing do to with what they sell, they might just as well go
to the top. CART has more prestige than IMSA. If they can do what Porsche
could not do, there are some serious bragging rights that could be laid
claim to.

Sports racers don't seem to be able to grab the limelight. I know they
don't get my attention. They can't make it Europe. Time to move on.

I would personally be more interested in seeing people run cars that
relate to real cars. Cheaper, lower tech cars. Cars that can be owned
by people, not just mega-corporations. The fact that they have two races
at once doesn't help the viewer understand what is going on. I mean the
"big" and "small" cars.

Then there is the endurance racing format. Talk about DULL! NASCAR manages
to maintain racing for 500 miles, it doesn't seem to happen that way
for sports cars/racers. 

Personally I enjoy racing on road courses, but viewing is another matter.
I choose circle tracks every time for viewing.

There must be more I could whine about, but time is up. I would like to
be a IMSA advocate, but am not at this time.

DavidOB --- blanch@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com  

Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: mcclure@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Subject: coorection of post on G. Hill's death
Reply-To: mcclure@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 15:15:34 GMT

A thousand pardons for my mistake on posting the death of Graham Hill.
I got two separate airplane crashes mixed up.  Carlos Pace died in a
light plane crash in Brazil in 1977.  I believe it was quite early in
the season.  Graham Hill died along with Tony Brise and 4 others in a
crash while returning from a testing session at Paul Ricard.  They had
finished a session testing the new GH-2.  This was back on 29 Nov, 1975.
Sorry about the confusion.  That's what happens when your reference
materials is not at work. 
Kent M. McClure
Auto racing afficionado and member of San
Jose IPMS chapter.
My views are what they are, like them or not.
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From: mjackson.wbst147@xerox.com (Mark Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Corvette GS ??
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:16:39 GMT
Reply-To: mjackson.wbst147@xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Corporation, Webster NY

Note that the current issue of /Autoweek/ (cover date November 16) has a one-page "Escape Road" piece on these cars, with a pointer to

	/Corvette Grand Sport/
	Lowell C. Paddock and Dave Friedman

for further information

---
Mark <MJackson.Wbst147@Xerox.COM>

  Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
		- Lord Acton, who is almost always misquoted
From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: F1 teams 1993 (was: More Sauber Tests at Barcelona)
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:31:52 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Anthony Doig (ajd@DIALix.oz.au) wrote:
: In <1992Nov10.154101.19083@spectrum.xerox.com> mjackson.wbst147@xerox.com (Mark Jackson) writes:
: 
: [ ... stuff deleted ... ]
: 
: >Of these, I understand March
: >is the softest; presumably they're losing the Ilmor engine next year,
: >and their finances have been shaky.
: 
: I thought March would continue with the current Ilmor V10 in '93.  Sauber
: are to get a totally new Ilmor V10 (badged a Sauber engine) which will
: be available from December/January.  They are currently using the "old"
: Ilmor V10 (as used this year by March and Tyrell).
: 

March are _supposed_ to be on the verge of announcing a lot of sponsorship
-- in the region of $25m. Ford HB engines have been mentioned, but if every
rumour I've heard about them is true then virtually all of the grid bar 
Williams and Ferrari would be Ford-powered!

pete
--
*Peter Fenelon -- Research Associate -- Software Safety Assessment Procedures*
Dept. of Computer Science, University of York, York, Y01 5DD (+44/0)904 433388
EMAIL: pete@minster.york.ac.uk `There's no room for enigmas in built up areas'
From: nxn@uts.amdahl.com (David J. Nixon)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Mansell's Goals (was M. brake tests Senna)
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:20:29 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

hanss@microsoft.com (Hans Spiller) writes:

>In article <1ecue3INNl8p@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> humpty@tartarus.uwa.edu.au wrote:
>> thos@suite.sw.oz.au (Thomas Cohen) writes:
>> 
>> >I think that Mansell has had enough of F1 and its politics. Note that
>> >he's not retiring, he taking a voluntary pay cut of more than, what, $10M?
>> >To me that says 'fed up with this', not 'better get out while I'm on top'.
>> 
>> What about trying to avoid racing Prost and looking bad by taking a pay
>> cut??!
>> 

>I have to agree with Thos. why not take Mansell at his word?  When he announced
>that he was quitting F1 in monza, he basically said he was really angry at being
>jerked around.
>[.....]  IndyCar looked like what
>he thought racing should be--fun, competitive, and far less politics than F1.
>I'm sure he knows he won't be dominating IndyCars from the start, although
>being with a good team he also knows he wont be a backmarker, and will probably
>win a few races next year.

Mansell's goal is to win Indy. I doubt he cares much about the rest
of the CART races (although he would never say so of course).
He will try hard because he's a competitive guy, but the only place
he'll give 110% is Indy.

Dave Nixon
nxn@uts.amdahl.com
From: skod@trenco.Eng.Sun.COM (Scott Griffith, Sun Lumpyware)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Corvette GS ??
Date: 18 Nov 1992 16:28:44 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: trenco

In article <78560025@teecs.UUCP> smithr@teecs.UUCP (Robert Smith) writes:
>Does anyone know if there are any of the Corvette Gran Sports still
>in existence? I think only four or five escaped the factory before
>the line was shut down. The last one I saw was at the 1966 Players 200
>at Mosport; Gorge Wintersteen had turned it into a coupe and was
>racing against a mixed bag including sports racers (group 7).

I believe that there were 5 all told, with two completed only after
the fact. And unless I'm mistaken, all 5 still exist- and at least one
has been very actively campaigned in Vintage racing as late as 1986 at
the Monterey Historics. I was flagging at the top of the Corkscrew,
and we had a lot of fun with the car at the end of the day when they
came out to shoot some posed cover shots for one of the Corvette
magazines. It was the ex-Guldstrand car, if I remember correctly. Very
tidy, very well turned out, and an absolute monster to drive according
to the owner.

Does anyone know how many of the 5 are still active?

-skod

--
Scott Griffith, Sun Microsystems Lumpyware
expatriate SCCA New England Region Flagging/Communications worker
(and sometimes driver, of anything that turns both right and left,
and can pass tech...) Return Path : skod@trenco.Eng.Sun.COM
From: humpty@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Daniel Ong)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Schumacher for 1993 champion?
Date: 16 Nov 1992 07:03:06 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au

pete@minster.york.ac.uk writes:

>PHT007%SIRIUS.UKC.AC.UK@ib.rl.ac.uk wrote:
>: This is my first posting, so please bear with me.
>: 
>: How does everyone feel about next years world Champion?
>: I reckon it is gonna be Schumacher as:
>: 
>: 1) Williams is now going to lose Mansell and thus ther motivation. With all the
>:    trouble this year over drivers, they will be in somewhat a dissarray.
>: 
>: 2) McLaren don't have a decent engine for next year and no Senna.
>: 
>: 3) Patrese is good, but I think Schumachers pace after 1 full year is going to
>:    improve to the point where not even Patrese will be able to keep up! As with
>:    Martin this year
>: 
>: 4) A Benetton Ford V-12 an exciting prospect.!!
>: 
>: Well thats my opinion!
>: Chris.

>I think you're forgetting a certain highly political Frenchman with a big
>ego and a Williams FW15.

Does anyone notice how comparatively unreliable the Williams is at the
later part of the season?  How about the fact that the Williams pit crew
are so much slower and foul up more as compared to both McLaren and
Ferrari?



>I reckon the top few places next season will be something like this:

>	1)	Prost
>	2)	Schumacher
>	3)	Berger
>	4)	Williams #2 driver (TBN!)
>	5)	Hakkinen
>	6)	Patrese
>	7)	Alesi
>	8)	Andretti

Interesting to note how far placed Berger and Alesi are!  

>Pete
>--
>*Peter Fenelon -- Research Associate -- Software Safety Assessment Procedures*
>Dept. of Computer Science, University of York, York, Y01 5DD (+44/0)904 433388
>EMAIL: pete@minster.york.ac.uk `There's no room for enigmas in built up areas'
From: stoffel@oasys.dt.navy.mil (William Stoffel)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Only 92 days left til ....... Daytona! <spoilers -- NASCAR>
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:36:29 GMT
Reply-To: stoffel@oasys.dt.navy.mil (William Stoffel)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Annapolis Detachment, CARDEROCKDIV, NSWC

In rec.autos.sport, mclellan@maximillion.mcc.com (David McLellan) writes:
(in part)

>My memory of Richard Petty's last race will be highlighted by the
>"Bring the ***** fire extinguisher" from the voice pickup. Rolled on
>the floor for several minutes over that one.  So much for live sound
>from cars and crews.

One of the print media guys asked him about that (I read it in the BALT.
SUN). Richard said they all came running over to get his autograph and
nobody bothered to bring a fire extinguisher, thus precipitating Richard's
"request".

>>       Whew! What a race, what a season! And, yep, only
>>92 more days to Daytona! Can't wait .........

Amen to that! I'm glad I got it on tape. Hope I don't wear it out before
Daytona :-)

Cheers - Bill

__________________________________________________________________________
Bill Stoffel              |  CARDEROCKDIV, NSWC  |First things first!     |
stoffel@oasys.dt.navy.mil |  Code 2759           | (But not necessarily in|
(410) 267-3825            |  Annapolis, MD 21402 |that order) - The Doctor|
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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: *** SUBJECT? ***
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:41:16 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.



Hi!  Is this group strictly for pro/racing?  I'm driving a conversion that 
I'm fixing up and looking for experienced advice.

Specifically (for now anyway), is there anything to these "dual fire" plugs?
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 PEROT IN '96!

  - Patrick Taylor, Ericsson Network Systems
    exuptr@exu.ericsson.se                    "Don't let the .se fool you"
    exuptr@ZGNews.Lonestar.Org  <SLOW!>
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From: aefron@cornerstone.com (Andrew Efron)
Subject: Re: Yet more trivia from Autosport (Answers -- finally!)
Reply-To: aefron@cornerstone.com (Andrew Efron)
Organization: Cornerstone Research, Cambridge, Mass.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:41:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.162316.27821@mic.ucla.edu>, brims@bnkl01.astro.ucla.edu 
(George Brims) writes:

> Unless the news is slow reaching LA, isn't Stirling Moss still alive and 
racing
> classic machines? I know he ended his career in a horrible crash but he 
survived
> it.
> 
> George Brims

Yes he is, and he did.

Andy


---
"I have seen the truth and it makes no sense."
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: fuentel@BusLab.cba.ufl.edu (LUIS FUENTES-PACHECO)
Subject: Re: Lola chassis ID's
Summary: What do they mean ?
Keywords: lola
Organization: College of Business, University of Florida
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:12:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.063937.18504@DIALix.oz.au> ajd@DIALix.oz.au (Anthony Doig) writes:

>Hi,

>How do Lola make up the model ID numbers for thier chassis ?  For example,
>what does "T91/01" mean (do they have the 'T' ? - I can't remember).

>A wild guess - the '91' part is the year.

>What does the rest mean ?  It seems like they use the same numbering system
>for all their chassis (Indy, F3000, etc).

>Thanks in advance,

>Doigman.
>-- 
>Anthony Doig                                   | E-mail : ajd@Dialix.oz.au
>Corporate Systems Development                  | Voice  : +61 9 321 2442
>Perth, Western Australia                       | Fax    : +61 9 474 2553
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: bdewey@grok116.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Bob Dewey)
Subject: Re: Petty picks Wilson.
Organization: NCR Corp., Columbia SC
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 21:05:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.203412.12322@pixel.kodak.com> jaslow@bissun.kodak.com (Russell Jaslow) writes:
>
>Being a Kodak racing fan, IMO, this was a poor selection.  Petty Enterprises
>will continue to be a second rate team.

I agree. When Wilson left the Kodak team all he did was criticize the car,
the team, everything for his poor driving. Look who got into the car the
next year and immediatly became a top and winning driver, Ernie.

I'm a big Petty fan so I hope that time and maturity have changed Wilson's
skills and attitude.

>-- 
>Russell Jaslow         |Spec Racer #33 Finger Lakes Reg|NY RANGERS|My employer
>Eastman Kodak Company  |In memorium: Andrew Spiller,   |and the   |has nothing
>Rochester, New York    |Cynthia Bishop Halstead.  Keep |Cup!  Why |to do with
>jaslow@bissun.kodak.com|the damn drunks off our roads! |not dream?|my drivel.


-- 
Bob Dewey                       e-mail: Bob.Dewey@ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM 
Customer Satisfaction, MSBU        fax: (803) 739-7317
MCPD Columbia                    phone: (803) 791-6425 or VoicePlus 632-6425
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: mcclure@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Subject: nascar point system
Reply-To: mcclure@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 21:33:50 GMT

I really have enjoyed this year's WC championship and am ecstatic
that an independent won it.  But I always thought that NASCAR had
a rather complicated scoring system.  Would anyone like to try to
explain the points breakdown?
Kent M. McClure
Auto racing afficionado and member of San
Jose IPMS chapter.
My views are what they are, like them or not.
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: thos@suite.sw.oz.au (Thomas Cohen)
Subject: Re: Mansell brake tests Senna
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:19:48 GMT

In <1ecue3INNl8p@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> humpty@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Daniel Ong) writes:

>>I think that Mansell has had enough of F1 and its politics. Note that
>>he's not retiring, he taking a voluntary pay cut of more than, what, $10M?
>>To me that says 'fed up with this', not 'better get out while I'm on top'.

>What about trying to avoid racing Prost and looking bad by taking a pay
>cut??!

Huh?
What about trying to find some way of making someone other than Mansell
the villain of the piece?
-- 
thos cohen                  ,not a typo        |Softway Pty Ltd
"It's not so bad to be a lair but a conniving  |ACSnet:         thos@softway.oz
 egomaniac is not really that socially accept- |UUCP: ...!uunet!softway.oz!thos
 able."  SMH, 2 Nov 92, P. Keating vs J. Hewson|Internet:    thos@softway.oz.au