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From: trimper@edsi.plexus.COM (Greg Trimper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: 16 color Apple: well, sometimes...
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:50:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: edsi.1992Apr16.235017.13651
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI

>long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long) writes:

>> Hi, I've got a weird problem with the apple in the menu bar. On a IIci, with
>> 7.0.1, and 1.1.1 Tuneup, switching to 16 colors makes the apple black; on a
>> IIfx with the same system, the apple stays in color in 16 color mode.

Is your HIGHTLIGHT color the "GREEN" from the COLOR CDEV?  If so, go to
another highlight color, or do what I did - go to "Other" and select a 
green there.  I had the same problem when I first installed Sys7-
it was only in 16color mode, only when the Hightlight color was the
predefined "GREEN".


Greg Trimper   trimper@edsi.plexus.com  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: urban@stout.atd.ucar.edu (Art Urban (PROFS))
Subject: Partitions; what'cha got?
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 19:59:26 GMT

I am about to reformat my 240M drive, and was curious as to how other people
broke-down their partition scheme. I usually set up a SysBoot, Development,
Personal, Scratch, and Applications partition. But before I do, are there
any partitions which people find useful?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: jxs18@po.CWRU.Edu (Jerry Sy)
Subject: program to do hide others automatically on finder
Reply-To: jxs18@po.CWRU.Edu (Jerry Sy)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 12:57:05 GMT


is there a utility (init/cdev) that will hide all running programs
except for the topmost application everytime you switch applications ?
that is, doing the hide others for you automatically. similar to that
autohide utility from Hand-Off II that is public domain.

please email response.

jerry

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: dawg6844@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Walkowski)
Subject: Re: RAM viewer?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 23:21:39 GMT

white@fraser.sfu.ca (Steve White) writes:


>Does there exist such a thing as a utility that allows the user to view
>the location of everything in RAM?  It should be possible to construct such
>a thing--the Memory Manager surely knows this info, and it should be 
>possible to make the requisite inquiries.

Yes, it's called MacsBug, and it's available free from Apple.
You can ftp it from ftp.apple.com
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From: liu@cerl.uiuc.edu (Albert Liu)
Subject: Re: Why can't I background printing?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:44:31 GMT

In article <22610@dog.ee.lbl.gov> david@mobius.msri.org (David Mostardi) writes:
>
>Hardware: Mac IIcx, Sys 7.0.1, 80M disk, Radius full-page display.
>
>Problem:  When I open Chooser, and click LaserWriter, the "on" button for
>	  background printing is dimmed out.
>
>
>Printing itself works fine -- it's just the backgrounding that I can't
>enable.  My other (similarly configured) IIcx does not do this.  
>Any ideas why I might be experiencing this?

Check that the PrintMonitor application is in the Extensions folder.  If
it's elsewhere, background printing is dimmed most of the time.

Albert
liu@cerl.uiuc.edu
From: Apgar@Apple.com (Gar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Tuneup 1.1.1 & missing folders...fix or cludge?
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:07:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: goofy.23290
Distribution: na
Organization: Apple

In article <8189@sun13.scri.fsu.edu>, stricher@masig3.ocean.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul) writes:
> 
> Thomas Alan Akins writes
> 
> + For the TuneUp, the Installer is a great waste of time.  All you have to do
> + is put the TuneUp extension in the extensions folder and replace any other
> + pertinent files that already exist on your system.
> + 
> + For TuneUp, I had to copy three files. Took 15 seconds.  The Installer wastes
> + my time.
> 
> This assumes, of course, that the Installer is not adding additional resources
> on-the-fly to either Finder or the System files. Or even the Tuneup extension.
> Anyone in the know care to comment?
> 

This is one time where it's fine NOT to use the Installer.
You can even drag the folder of Tune Up parts to your
System Folder Icon and the "system magic" will put everything
where it belongs.

Apgar@Apple.com                   I said it, NOT Apple.
From: mdc@spt.entity.com (Marty Connor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Neil, would you please comment on this?
Date: 8 Apr 92 11:40:22 GMT
Reply-To: mdc@spt.UUCP (Marty Connor)
Organization: Hacks 'R' Us, Cambridge, MA

In article <64995@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:

>Don't yell at Apple. get the laws fixed.

Quit blaming everything on "the laws".  I believe that Apple follows
that part of "the law" that is most profitable for it.

Your argument that Apple is being as nice as possible under "the law"
suggests that if it could "under the law", Apple would be some sort of
corporate sister theresa.  With Sculley and Spindler in charge? 
Your argument falls apart.

>Neil was doing what he had to do to make sure he could continue to legally
>put Apple software out on his SIG. that's a non-trivial part of the
>attraction of CIS that helps pay his salary. I know GEnie put the TuneUp
>stuff up -- and as soon as they realized they didn't have permission, it
>disappeared again. It'll be back as soon as the i's are dotted and the t's
>are crossed.

I think Neil was kissing Apple's butt.  His message groveled needlessly to
Apple, as though they were some benificent entity from which all
goodness flowed.  Users are an extremely valuable commodity.

I think that it cheapens the role of the people who make it possible
for chuq and bc to have their jobs for people like Neil to grovel as
though he has no bargaining position.  My opinion.

I think Apple is getting more mean-spirited as a company over the
years, and people like you and bc notwithstanding, I think for the
most part, makes a nice buck by having users like me tell it how to
improve software.

I make no apologies to Apple for debugging their software for them.

Marty

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: bazell@stsci.edu (David Bazell)
Subject: Intermittent trouble turning on a MACII
Keywords: turn on
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:08:11 GMT


Over the last couple of years I have had intermittent problems with
turning on my MacII.  I had it in to the shop a couple of times, once
just this week.  They checked the logic board and the power supply but
found no problems.  They said that the battery appeard to be a bit
loose so that was re-soldered.  

When I have this problem, I can't turn it on from the keyboard or from
the back of the Mac.  If I keep trying sometimes it will go on, but
then the colors are set wrong and the mouse is slow, so I reset it
fast.  Sometimes the clock is wrong too.

Any ideas about what could be the problem?  Hopefully it was the
battery, I don't want to have to pay to take it back and have them not
find anything again.

Thanks for any help

Dave Bazell
bazell@stsci.edu
From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: System Bug? (unimplemented trap from Finder: aliases, AppleTalk)
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:39:09 GMT
Organization: Friends of the Salter Duck

Came across this one last night, and haven't investigated yet, but: I
have some aliases on my PowerBook to files also on the PB, but on
other partitions (I'm running SilverLining). The aliases are network
ones: their paths look like "* : HardDisk : Folder : ...", and
presumably got built when I was running File Sharing to my SE/30.

Attempting to resolve the alias causes the Finder to bomb with
unimplemented trap. This is with AppleTalk off; turn it on, restart,
and the aliases resolve properly.

System 7.0.1, TuneUp 1.0 (I haven't installed 1.1.1 yet). My guess is
that TuneUp is leaving the AppleTalk traps unimplemented when the
PowerBook is startup up with AppleTalk off, and the Finder is tripping
over one of these, but that's just a guess.

Nick.
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From: ICBAL@ASUACAD.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Format MFS disks on HFS machine?
Date: 12 Apr 92 01:54:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: ASUACAD.92102.185418ICBAL
Organization: Arizona State University

In article <1992Apr11.012630.22664@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, dlbg1912@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
(David L. Berk) says:
>
>  Is there a utility of some sort that will allow HFS Macs to format
>  a floppy to an MFS format (400K or 800K)?
>

HFS Macs will format 400K disks in MFS format by default.  To format an 800K
disk in MFS format on a MacPlus or 512KE, boot with System 2.0, then initialize
the disk.  It will be 800K in MFS format. (I never tried this on a Mac later
than a Plus, because they were not made to boot with System 2.0.)

After you have one such 800K MFS disk, you can use a disk copying utility
(like QuickCopy) and any copies you make on any HFS Mac will also be 800K MFS.
If you have an 800K external drive to use with the 512K (non-enhanced) Mac,
you can use 800K MFS disks in that drive with no problem or extra software.

Bruce Long
Department of Mathematics
Arizona State University
icbal@math.la.asu.edu
From: streater@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Tim Streater)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Norton didn't really KILL my Mac
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:42:25 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Apropos of using CMD-OPTION-SHIFT-DELETE to restart you machine without the
SCSI driver getting loaded, does anyone have a complete list of all the possible
and meaningful key combinations at startup (e.g., SHIFT = no INITS, CMD-OPTION
= rebulid desktop, etc)? I think such a list would be very useful. If it already
exists, pls point me at it.

Thx - tim.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: alana@sisters.cs.uoregon.edu (Thomas Alan Akins)
Subject: Re: Tuneup 1.1.1 & missing folders...fix or cludge?
Keywords: folder missing tuneup system 7.0.1
Organization: /local/lib/rn/organization
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 01:54:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.145338.18218@acsu.buffalo.edu> slater@acsu.buffalo.edu (Joseph C. Slater) writes:
>Alen Shapiro wrote about problems using the installer with the System 7 tune-up
>1.1.1.  Other people have complained about the mac installer asking for more
>than one disk at a time.  I had the same problem installing MSWord 5.0.
>I solved the problem by holding the shift key while booting to turn off any
>extensions which might not like the installer then running the installer.

For the full system, this is a good temporary fix. Of course, Gatekeeper
will not even allow the Installer to work properly at times.

For the TuneUp, the Installer is a great waste of time.  All you have to do
is put the TuneUp extension in the extensions folder and replace any other
pertinent files that already exist on your system.

For TuneUp, I had to copy three files. Took 15 seconds.  The Installer wastes
my time.

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From: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: MAC Trivia
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:59:28 GMT
Reply-To: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Organization: Peirce Software
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <wdrvN3q00ioEQ2PERL@andrew.cmu.edu> (comp.sys.mac.system), mg4s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Marissa Gonzalez) writes:
> Is there any meaning behind the Mac "SE", "si","ci","fx" etc...
> 
> No one around here seems to know and I've never run across any explaination.

Conjecture on my part, but that stops few on the net!

The two Macs with "i" in their names (ci,si) both have internal video.
So the it could mean internal video.

The "c" Macs (cx,ci) are compact Mac II's (compared to the original
Mac II that is).

The "x" started with the Mac IIx which was a Mac II with an 68030
in it.  This seems to have continued with cx and fx.

So with the above rules you get:

Mac II		Simply a second generation Macintosh
Mac IIx		A Mac II with a 68030 in it.
Mac IIcx				"				 in a compact box.
Mac IIci	A compact Mac II with internal video (ut could have been
				cxi to follow the above rules, but that's probably too long)
Mac IIfx	A "f"aster Mac IIx.
Mac IIsi	A "s"porty (???!) Mac II with internal video.

Mac LC		Obviously Low Cost color Mac.

I don't knwo where Mac SE came from.  But Plus is easy (follows in the
Apple II/Plus foot steps).  As is SE/30 (SE with a 68030 - this of
course should have been a Mac SEx, but wasn't for obvious reasons).

Classic is pure marketing speak.

When they upgraded the Classic and LC to use 68030 processors they
tacked II onto the end, not meaning a Mac II class Mac (Mac II = NuBus),
but rather a second generation Classic or LC.

The newer machines have a new naming convention consisting of a
family name plus a number.  This gives us PowerBook 100,140,170 and 
Quadra 700, 900.

Then there was the Macintosh Portable.  I have no idea why they named
it this way!

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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: 16 color Apple: well, sometimes...
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:09:14 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long) writes:

> Hi, I've got a weird problem with the apple in the menu bar. On a IIci, with
> 7.0.1, and 1.1.1 Tuneup, switching to 16 colors makes the apple black; on a
> IIfx with the same system, the apple stays in color in 16 color mode.

> I know the IIci has "system software for the IIci" (NOT minimal); I'm not
> sure what the IIfx is running in that regard (is there a way to tell?)

    I don't think that the system software that you installed is really
the problem. Are you using the same video card in both machines? Are you
using the ci's on-board video? If you don't use the on-board video then
you need to look into the video cards that you are using on both
machines. Even if the system installed were the "minmal" it would either
have color of not have color. If it has color then you shouldn't really
have to worry about the system configuration. Of course I could be
wrong, you know.

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From: manuel@space.ualberta.ca (John R. Manuel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: MAC Trivia
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:06:36 GMT
Reply-To: manuel@space.ualberta.ca  (John R. Manuel)
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada

In article <1992Apr7.063747.27217@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> wrast@isis.cs.du.edu  
(Winston MacKenzie Rast) writes:
> How about this:
> 
> Mac SE:		Single Expansion
> Mac SE/30	Duh...
> Mac LC		Low Cost
> Mac IIsi	Sound Input

I think that the model names come from the marketing department and have  
little to do with the machine itself. Proof? Well, around the time I bought  
my first Mac, a new SE, I noticed a quite a few noncomputer products with  
'SE' as part of the model name. I've forgotten most of them, but I do  
remember there being a couple of car models that fit that description. I  
figure that there was one BIG advertising convention way back then where  
people decided that the 'SE' designation would make us all buy like crazed  
teenagers with our first paycheques...

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From: talarico@rodan.acs.syr.edu (John F. Talarico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: PICS ---> QuickTime?
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:16:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: newstand.1992Apr7.151656.11430
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY

Hi,
  
    I'm looking for a program that will convert a PICS file to a QuickTime
MooV or vice-versa.  If you know where to get one, please tell me, or if
it's convenient, send me it thru mail.  

Thanx,
JT

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: longj@lonex.rl.af.mil (Jeffrey K. Long)
Subject: Tuneup 1.1.1 is at ftp.apple.com !!
Organization: RL
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 18:38:28 GMT

I just noticed that tuneup 1.1.1 is at ftp.apple.com!!  Time is listed as
very late on Friday night, so someone at apple was working hard on this fix!

But, when will we see an explaination of why it was needed?  There is no
hint in apple's tuneup1.1.1.txt file as to why it is needed or what it fixes.

I am hoping it will fix some of the quirks I have noticed with my new
Quadra 900, but it would be nice to see an official notice of its release.

Maybe I am just too quick on the trigger, and my posting will beat 
Apple's notice to the net, and if that is the case, I appologize!

Jeff Long

PS  Apple......Thanks for the continued support via the net!!

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From: STANKERR@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
Subject: Application displays wrong icon
Organization: C.C.S.O.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 13:31:30 GMT

I use System 7 and one of my applications consistently displays an icon
belonging to something else. The application is Fetch (creator FTCH,
type APPL), and the thing whose icon Fetch displays is a debugging tool
written by one of our Mac programmers; it's called EvenBetterBusError,
has a creator of EBBE and a type of INIT. Even after I rebuild the desktop
Fetch displays the icon of EvenBetterBusError. Does anyone have any idea
what could be causing it or how to correct the behavior? Or things I
could check with ResEdit?
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From: afry@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Alan R. Fry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Indestructible Folder
Keywords: Indestructible Folder
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:56:26 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <1992Apr15.061158.17041@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> pjm39673@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Paul J. Moldenhauer) writes:
>I have a folder that was created to store undeleted files(recovered.)  And now Iam unable to delete it.  The finder gives me "can't delete because items are in
>use message."  Delete methods attempted: ResEdit, MacTools, and booting off a 
>floppy disk and trashing the folder.  It won't go away!
>
>confused
>
>answer via mail to either ragg9165@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu  or
>			  pjm39673@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
>
>Thanks for your help.


You might first try rebuilding the desktop.  If you have it, run Norton
Utilities on your disk.

If all else fails, you might try the program Hell Folder Fix available at
sumex-aim.stanford.edu in the path /info-mac/util/hell-folder-fix.hqx.

Good luck,

Alan
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From: gwangung@milton.u.washington.edu (Just another theatre geek.....)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Neil, would you please comment on this?
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:17:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Apr8.151713.27410
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <43823@spt.entity.com> mdc@spt.UUCP (Marty Connor) writes:
>In article <64995@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>>Don't yell at Apple. get the laws fixed.
>Quit blaming everything on "the laws".  I believe that Apple follows
>that part of "the law" that is most profitable for it.

	Irrelevant arguement in this case, since, if you know any law, the
stuff you've been calling "stupid and irrational" is pretty close to
de rigeur. 


>Your argument that Apple is being as nice as possible under "the law"
>suggests that if it could "under the law", Apple would be some sort of
>corporate sister theresa.

	Your arguement is that Apple is still slime even though they're
doing what other corporations have to do in order to protect their
rights under law.  This isn't a good arguement; just reflexive
Apple-bashing.

>  With Sculley and Spindler in charge? 
>I think Neil was kissing Apple's butt. 

	Well, at least here, you're bashing individuals instead of the
"faceless corporation" boogeyman...




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From: hlsw_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Dave Hollinsworth)
Subject: Re: System 7.1 enhancements I'd like to see
Keywords: cron jobs
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 07:04:45 GMT

A new feature that I'd like to see in System 7.1 would be an addition to the
application menu (the one on the far right):  "Auto Hide".  Basically, what
this would do is automatically perform a "Hide Others" whenever you switched
applications with this menu (i.e. at all times, the only application showing
would be the one in the foreground).  This would help to cut down on the
screen clutter, especially for those of us with small-screen Macs.

Opinions?  Comments?

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