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From: wlarkin@panix.com (Ward Larkin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: village voice quiz answers 31-40
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:45:15 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

The following are questions & Answers 31 thru 40 out of 40.

31. Why was there a standing ovation in Yankee
    Stadium in the bottom of the fourth inning
    on July 30, 1990?

    It was announced that Yankee owner George
    Steinbrenner had been kicked out of baseball

32. Who said, "It might be good if we keep losing,
    because it's more likely Streinbrenner will
    fly in, and that increases the possibility 
    that the plane will crash?"

    Graig Nettles 

33. Which player was found quilty of racketeering,
    conspiracy to commit racketeering, loan-sharking,
    and possession of cocaine with intent to  
    distribute?

    Denny McLain

34. In 1985, which player was stopped by police with
    $70,000 worth of cocaine, heroin, Quaaludes, 140
    glassine envelopes, drug paraphernalia, and a
    loaded .22 Derringer handgun in his car?

    Joe Pepitone

35. Which player pulled a gun on a cook in a Cincinnati
    sandwich shop in 1961.

    Frank Robinson

36. Which player held his wife hostage with a shotgun
    in 1985, and didn't surrender until a SWAT team
    lobbed tear gas canisters through the window of
    his apartment?

    John "Blue Moon" Odom

37. Which player died with a loaded Luger and a brown
    paper bag containing $1 million in negotiable
    securities by his hospital bed?

    Ty Cobb

38. Who explained the small number of black baseball
    executives by pointing out that black people can't
    swim well?

    LA vice-president Al Campanis

39. What player was LIFE magazine describing when they
    wrote in a 1939 profile:  "Instead of olive oil or
    smelly bear grease he keeps his hair slick with
    water.  He never reeks of garlic and prefers chicken
    chow mein to spaghetti?"

    Joe DiMaggio

40. Why do umpires all wear black underwear?

    In case they split their pants
From: 6669030@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: 52 Re: Twins/superstition
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 14:46:07 GMT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
In article <l8liduINN9ae@saltillo.cs.utexas.edu> goolsbey@cs.utexas.edu (Keith G

>[Discussion of a former Minnesota closer deleted.]

>Please. Never mention his name aloud. I fear that the player in question
>may return if we speak his name aloud.

>>Anyone remember Bobby Mitchell, Hosken Powell, Larry Hisle, Bombo Rivera,
>>arrell "3 errors on one play" Jackson etc. from the Twins' *very* lean years?
Anyone remember Redfern, Thormodsgard, and Filson?
These memories tell me that things now aint all too bad....
>These were actually some of Minnesota's better bad players. The fielders
>tended to be average. It was the pitching staff that usually stunk to high
>heaven. One of my treasured memories is watching Terry Felton lose his
>12th game in a row.

>*sigh* Those weren't the days.
--
Did Felton ever win one game in the bigs?

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Billy K. - "K is not for Kusick"
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Subject: Re: Orioles/Jays -> Game 2
From: mzener@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:11:06 EDT
Distribution: na
Organization: Wesleyan University

sinhaa@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Anand Sinha) writes:

> In the bottom of the 5th, Alan Mills got into trouble, with 2 out, Alomar 
> singles, steals 2nd.  After a very tough AB, Carter draws a walk.  Alomar and
> Carter take off on a double steal, but luckily for Mills, the ball bounces
> off Parent's equipment into the Jay's dugout.  Only one base allowed.  Mills
> then gets Winfield to ground out.  The play was ruled a double steal, but
> why then weren't Alomar and Carter allowed to advance *another* base on the  
> WP?  I don't understand that ruling.  That was Mills' last inning.

   I listened to the Orioles' radio broadcast, and they explained the rule as
this -- if a wild pitch goes into the dugout, then runners may only steal one
base, even if they have already rounded that base when the ball reaches the
dugout.  If the catcher, while chasing the pitch, kicks it into the dugout,
runners may take two bases.

   BTW, it should be noted that Mills fought very hard for his success against
the Jays' bats, throwing over 90 pitches in his 5 innings.  I think against
Carter's second at bat alone Mills had to throw 12 pitches.

Max Zener
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From: yajima@nttcom.ntt.jp (YAJIMA Hiroshi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball,soc.culture.japan,fj.rec.basesall
Subject: Japanese High School Baseball Championships
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:57:35 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: NTT Network Information Systems Labs. Musashino, Tokyo


 Japanese High School Baseball Championships(games on Thursday August 20)

(At Koshien)
Second round
Nobeoka Ind.(Miyazaki)           001 040 412  12 11  0
Nichidai Yamagata(Yamagata)      000 020 000   2  9  4

Gifu Com.(Gifu)                  000 000 000   0  5  0
Kumamoto Tech.(Kumamoto)         000 000 001   1  6  2

Third round
Jinsei Gakuen(Kagawa)            500 001 001   7 16  0
Utsunomiya Minami(Tochigi)       001 000 001   2  6  3

Takudai Koryo(Chiba)             020 000 000   2  6  0
Sasebo Jitsugyo(Nagasaki)        000 000 000   0  7  2
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From: alba@cbnewse.cb.att.com (david.alba..jr)
Subject: Re: Eck or the Rocket?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:27:02 GMT




      How about adding Jack McDowell from Chicago to
      the list of CY YOUNG candidates.  Jack has more 
      victories than Clemens, even though his E.R.A.
      is a little higher.

      I think Kevin Brown of Texas and 
      Dave Fleming of Seattle deserve some
      consideration also.  However, Fleming 
      will probably get Rookie of the Year.


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        David Alba Jr     AT&T Bell Labs
        att!cbnewse!alba  Naperville, IL
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From: mjw@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Michael Wolverton)
Subject: Re: Clemens wins his fourteenth!
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:03:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.210134.12168@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> josh@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (joshua.h.rosenbluth) writes:
>I think a case can be made for Eckersley [for Cy Young].
>...
>With a normal offense in front of him [Clemens] (AL average is 4.38,
>park-adjusted to Fenway at 4.56), he is 20*(.762-.500) or 5.2 wins
>above average. 

Using a couple of other methods, I get that Clemens is about 4.5 wins
above average. 

>[Interesting analysis of saves/opportunities that puts Eckersley at
>about 4.5 wins above average]
>
>[Then some caveats including:]
>And maybe Eckersley's save
>opportunities were easier/harder than the typical save opportuntities.

Yeah, and we have at least some evidence that they're easier.  The
Baseball Thang did a stat box earlier in the year that tried to break
down closers' save opportunities by difficulty -- easy, medium, or
hard.  I don't remember the exact results, but I do remember that
Eckersley had a disproportionate number of "easy" saves, and (I think)
no "hard" ones.  Their method of breaking things down was a little
brain-damaged, but good enough to give a rough idea of the types of
situations the closers were used in.

I will say in Eckersley's defense, though, that your analysis compared
him to the average closer; that's probably a slightly higher standard
than Clemens was compared to (average pitcher).

>No one should use these numbers to decide the Cy Young.

Why not?  I mean, you're right that no one should vote for Cy Young
solely on the basis of your numbers, but your study shows a lot more
thought than most writers probably put into their vote.  I think that
considering some numbers like yours, *and* considering and taking
guesses about all the caveats you mentioned, is exactly the right way
to vote for Cy Young.

-Michael
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From: madigan@bmtlh178.BNR.CA (Lenny Madigan)
Subject: Need tix: Wrigley Oct 2 Weekend
Reply-To: madigan@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 14:00:18 GMT

Hi,

I'm planning a trip to Chicago, to catch the Expos-Cubs series
at the beginning of October.

Can someone please provide info on a number to call, the
likelihood/cost of scalped tickets, other recommendations.

I'd like to catch all three games if possible.

Please POST response

Thanks
--

Lenny Madigan (madigan@bnr.ca)     | "     ".
Bell-Northern Research, Montreal   |               - Simon and Garfunkel
Canada                             |
From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Twins/Mariners .... Game-8   8/14/92
Date: 15 Aug 92 05:49:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.19737
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


      
      Twins ...........  9 ; Mariners .......... 6

Kirbie Puckett had a field day as he had 6 RBIs 
in this game( a 2-run homer + His 3rd Grand-slam of
this season and his career ). 

David West did an outstanding job coming out of the
bull-pen as he held the Mariners with the score
tied at 6-6. The Twins blew up a 6-2 lead as the
Mariners rallied to tie the score at 6.

Krueger(10-3) left with a no decision. Aguilera got
his 32nd save and the Twins gained
a game on the As as California beat them 2-1. The As
now lead the west by 3 games.

Tomorrow Kevin Tapani(13-7) takes the mound.

S.H
Forever Twins
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From: hutto@SMTC.engr.scarolina.edu (Brent Hutto)
Subject: Re: Emotional Attachment to Teams
Reply-To: hutto@smtc.engr.scarolina.edu
Organization: NIST Southeast Manufacturing Technology Center
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 21:47:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.192643.801973@locus.com>, aardvark@locus.com (Warren Usui) writes:

>However, I still root for the same team, even though the players have
>changed.  I find this irrational because I have no real reason to root
>for them.  So I would like to ask the net this question to any hardcore
>fans of any team out there:  Would you root for your team, even if the
>entire personnel of that team changed, just because it's your team?
>
>For example, let's say you are a New York Met fan.  You just heard it
>was announced that the entire New York Met team was traded for the
>entire Boston Red Sox team.  If you were going to a game that day,
>would you root for the ex-Boston guys just because they were wearing
>Met uniforms?

    Interesting question.  In fact, in this hypothetical case, I think
    I *would* root for "my guys" even if they had on the other teams
    uniforms now.  The only ball club I have ever followed closely is
    the Atlanta Braves (I guess because I get to drive down and see a
    game or two a year, it's only 200 miles).  There are periods when
    I listen to many, many games on the radio and there are other
    seasons when I just check the sports page on Sunday to see how
    things are going around the league... no particular interest in
    the Braves at all.

    The difference is the players.  My last period of disinterest
    started when they traded Brett Butler and Brook Jacoby to the
    Indians.  For the next several seasons my interest trailed off
    to almost nothing.  Then I moved into a place with cable and
    tuned in once in a while to watch Murphy and Hubbard and what
    was left of the early 80's Braves.  When I got a chance to
    catch a couple of Tommy Glavine starts, my interest started
    picking up again. I got hooked on the Glavine-Avery-Smoltz show
    and now, with the success last season, I listen to three or
    four games a week.

    If John Scheurholz (sp?) were to trade, say, Tommy Glavine,
    John Smoltz, Ronny Gant and Terry Pendleton to the Astros
    tomorrow, I'd probably be an Astros fan for a while. I think
    I follow the players and just happen to be looking at the
    Braves when they get players who interest me.

    As I said, neat question...

-------------------------------
Brent Hutto
hutto@SMTC.engr.scarolina.edu
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From: kettler@pierre.mit.edu (KETTLER, THOMAS R.)
Subject: Re: What happens if????
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: MIT Lab for Nuclear Science
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:39:00 GMT

In article <19801@plains.NoDak.edu>, sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan writes...
>What happens if at the end of the season, three teams are tied for
>first spot for the division. Is this  a possiblity and has this
>ever occured before.
> 
>S.h

If such an incident would occur, the way it would be decided is the following: 
a flip of the coin would be used to determine the bye team. The other two would 
play for the right to play the bye team. However, I am not certain how 
precisely home field would be decide.

It has never occured before. However in 1987, the possibility was great that the
Cardinals, Mets and Expos would tie for the NL East lead. However, a 
doubleheader win by the Cardinals for the opener of a three-day, four-game 
series with the Expos eliminated the Expos and the Cards winning the other games
of that series eliminated the Mets. But at the end of the season, the Cards won 
by just a game over the Mets and four games over the Expos.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 10:58:28 -0400 
From: Todd Harris Fletcher <tf0y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Dream Team
	<7cRy02a01dTR01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>

No way, no how is David Cone better than Doug Drabek.  Sorry, but no.

Todd
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From: miked@cis.ohio-state.edu (Michael Davey)
Subject: Attention: Reds Fans
Originator: miked@pterodactyl.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:24:33 GMT

>>Its true the Reds need to strengthen the heart of the order but I do not
  think Lou is letting things slide.  He has probably given up trying to
  give advice to O`Neil but the division title is still within their grasp.
  Lou played on the '78 yankees teem that came from 14.5 games back to 
  win it all and I think Lou is a believer.  As far as Sabo is concerned, as of
  Sunday, they were strongly considering putting him on the DL when Morris 
  comes off if not sooner.  He wants to play no matter what, but with Coles
  hitting the way he is, it would be suicide not to play him instead of
  Chris at 3b.  The only problem with benching O'Neil (as I have been informed
  by my illustrious Reds-lieber in Palo Alto, this would leave the Reds with 
  no left-handed power.  With Morris at 100%, however, I think he and Doran 
  (who I wish would be traded even though he is a good asset on the bence) 
  would be more productive overall than O'Neil.
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Say it's so! Baseball in Tampa Bay!!!
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:17:08 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <Tanya_Davis.esh-120892094551@tahiti.slac.stanford.edu> Tanya_Davis.esh@qmail.slac.stanford.edu (Tanya Davis) writes:
>deny that.  But as an overall thing, there is no comparison.  I personally
>know a couple of players on both teams -- it's funny because even a couple
>of the A's feel that their team has / has had an attitude problem.  And



I assume you're referring to recent criticisms of Rickey and Jose by
some of their teammates for their "injuries". It was alleged in the 
SJ Mercury News that Rickey is faking injuries after hearing that Jose
will be out with an injury as a protest for the difference in their
salaries. The main complaint seems to be coming from everybody's 
favorite clubhouse leader-- Carney Lansford. How much of this is true,
and how much of it is jealousy is anybody's guess.

Terry Steinbach was quoted today as "not giving a **** whether Jose and
Rickey play or not because if they don't play we have guys who will bust 
their butts in their place". This is the same Terry Steinbach who the 
night before a game on the recent Texas trip got so stinking drunk that
he had to be helped back to his hotel room. I know this because my sister
was staying in the same hotel as the A's players during that trip and
was in the bar where Steiny got drunk.

In the same bar, Dave Henderson was dancing, but he apparently was being
very careful not to reinjure his legs. If Rickey or Jose were seen
dancing while out with an injury it would be on the front page because
they make so much money. 

And as for the giants not having clubhouse problems, ask some of the players
off the record their opinion of Will Clark(as a person, not a player) and
you'll find out he's not as well liked as you probably think.





Russ Smith
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From: grabiner@math.harvard.edu (David Grabiner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Phillies/Orioles Trade(Scarsone/Bell)
Date: 16 Aug 92 17:26:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: zariski.GRABINER.92Aug16132702
 Stanford.EDU> <23672@oasys.dt.navy.mil><14AUG199216425490@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu>
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In-reply-to: hasch@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu's message of 14 Aug 92 21:42:00 GMT

In article <14AUG199216425490@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu>, Bruce M Hasch writes:

> Agreed.  After 1983, BOTH Murray and Ripken's offensive statistics took
> a nosedive--the press was absolutely BRUTAL to Murray, when the real reason
> for the O's fall was the decimation of the pitching staff, and a crop of
> aging, starting veterans (Dempsey, Bumbry, Lowenstein/Roenicke, et. al.)

This is a perfect example of the press's effect on the perception of
statistics.  Look at Ripken's 1984 numbers, then add in the fact that he
set a record for assists at shortstop (and should have won the Gold
Glove).

In 1983: .371 OBP, .517 SLG
In 1984: .374 OBP, .510 SLG

He did lose 18 runs scored and 16 RBI, but that says more about the
number of hits his teammates got.  In 1983, he won the MVP.  In 1984, he
received one vote for tenth place.  The only real difference is that the
Orioles won the World Series in 1983 but were blown away in 1984.

--
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"Please rotate your phone 90 degrees and try again."
Disclaimer: I speak for no one and no one speaks for me.
From: ncovey@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (neil covey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Gross pitches no-hitter, Dodgers win
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:15:51 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

After recieving two four-hit, and one five-hit gem(s) from their pitchers
and still going 0-3, the Dodgers finally managed to win a game when
Gross(!!!!?) pitched a no-hitter. If this is what it takes for the
Dodgers to win, a long year is just going to get longer.  
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From: kettler@pierre.mit.edu (KETTLER, THOMAS R.)
Subject: Re: Nolan Ryan tonight?
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Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 01:28:00 GMT

In article <19AUG199217050446@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu>, hasch@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Bruce M Hasch)    writes...
> 
>>"Anything that travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it"
> 
>An amusing comment.  Obviously, whoever said this must be referring to the
>numerous LONG gopherballs given up 'Big Blast' Ben McDonald
> 

Naw, it would have to be either of the following usual suspects:

Bert "Bye, Bye" Blyleven or Tom "Downtown" Browning  d::-)

					Sincerely yours,

					Thomas R. Kettler "Expos Fanatic"
From: jtchern@ocf.berkeley.edu (Joseph Hernandez)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: MLB Magic Numbers for Mon, Aug 17th, 1992
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:00:23 GMT
Organization: Joseph TeleCommunications Enterprises; Berkeley, California, USA
Via: JTC Enterprises Major League Baseball Department (Statistics Division)
     JTC Enterprises Sports Sector (Information Department)


        MAGIC NUMBERS OF DIVISION LEADERS FOR MONDAY, AUGUST 17, 1992

          [NOTE: Includes all of yesterday's games; i-idle yesterday
                   z-won yesterday or split a doubleheader.]

NATIONAL WEST		 MN	        	NATIONAL EAST		 MN
Atlanta	Braves		 --		        Pittsburgh Pirates	z--
Cincinnati Reds		z45		        Montreal Expos		 43
San Diego Padres	 39		        Chicago Cubs		z37
San Francisco Giants	z32		        St. Louis Cardinals     z36
Houston Astros		 27		        New York Mets           i34
Los Angeles Dodgers	 25		        Philadelphia Phillies	i30

AMERICAN WEST		 MN 		        AMERICAN EAST		 MN
Oakland Athletics	z--		        Toronto Blue Jays	z--
Minnesota Twins		 40		        Baltimore Orioles	 42
Chicago White Sox	z36		        Milwaukee Brewers	z40
Texas Rangers		 29		        Detroit Tigers          z32
Kansas City Royals      z27		        Boston Red Sox           30
California Angels        25		        New York Yankees         30
Seattle Mariners	z19		        Cleveland Indians       z29
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