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From: gottsch@mikro.ee.tu-berlin.de (Gert Gottschalk)
Subject: Bootmanager from OS2 switching DOS5.0 and Interactive 386/ix
Keywords: Bootmanager
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Distribution: tub
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:39:14 GMT

Hi there,

I recently installed Interactive 386/ix on a 486 4MB PC-clone and was asked
to keep DOS5.0 alive that was already running on the system. I decided to
use a Bootmanager that unpon startup of the machine would ask the user
to select from DOS and UNIX. (I know about running DOS under vpix and
booting from Floppy etc.. but wanted to do it this way).
Now with OS2 2.0 there comes a bootmanager that resides on its own tiny
partition on disk 0. If this is the active partition the ROMBIOS boots
this manager (thinking it is a kernel) and starts it. This manager in turn
checks its configured list of bootable systems displays it to the user,
lets him chose one loads the appropriate kernel or bootstrap making it
think it is loaded and then started by the ROMBIOS. Finally you have your
desired system running.

Now as there is no such manager coming with Interactive 386/ix I decided
to use the one coming with OS2 2.0. I proceeded through the installation disks
until I was told that the bootmanager was installed. I configured the
bootmanager to make it know the DOS5.0 and UNIX partitions on the harddisk 0.
(I use AT-Bus drives). 
Now on boot the manager comes up fine and asks if I want DOS or UNIX.
Selecting dump DOS everything works fine (boot is o.k.). Selecting UNIX
nothing happens (no boot no system)

Does anybody have similar problems and found a solution ?
Any help is appreciated !!

Thanks,

Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill)
Subject: Re: SLIP/PPP on Interactive 386/ix.
Organization: Virtual Technologies Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:46:18 GMT

mjh@cs.vu.nl (Huisjes MJ) writes:

>No, It has to do with the version number of the TCP/IP software. If
>you have version 1.2, update to 1.3. We have used SL/IP connections
>on both ISC ver 2.2 and 3.0 . Getting it to work with the supplied
>documentation is not so easy. We have one computer configured as
>bridge between 3 networks, which means it has to SL/IP connections
>to two other computers (also running ISC) connected by leased telephone
>lines. Once up and running it's not all you hoped for. For one performance
>is lousy. An other problem is that it is not reliable. No matter what
>kind of connection you have (rlogin, rcp , ftp) there is a chance the
>connection will 'hang'. In short I'd say : Not usable in a commercial
>environment.

As I write this, we have a SLIP connection between this system and one
of our clients systems about 50 miles away.  The communications between
the systems are maintained by two telebit world blazers in v.32bis mode
with v.42 compression, locked on the line (they don't hang up if the 
system goes down).

We have had said connection up for the past three weeks and have had 
nary a problem.  Throughput for compressed files (I sent something like
a 10MB file via ftp) was about 1K.  Haven't measured it for non-compressed
files.  

Prior to this connection, I had setup a connection between my home and
the office and it was up for about 4 months with the only problem being
that the modems lost the connection two or three times during that 
period.  I ran some X clients (xbiff, xload) across that connection (yes,
they were slow) and several rlogin sessions to the other side and sometimes
to another system connected to the other side.  No problems were experienced
in that environment either.  I even played with NFS across it, but found that
this was not acceptable with respect to performance.

The only thing I haven't done with SLIP is the dialup stuff.  I have always
just locked the lines together and just treated it as a direct connection.

One other comment is that SLIP is not ideal for an interactive session
because of the high overhead for each byte.  This should be alleviated 
with compressed headers, but as far as I know that is not in ISC's SLIP.

BTW - this was all done with ISC 3.0.

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From: shih@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (The Nomad)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: GCC++ and GCC binary?
Date: 28 Sep 92 06:53:29 GMT
Distribution: comp.unix.sysv386

Hello Netlanders,

I don't know if my cry of help ever reach to the net. Here is the
second scream.  I am desporately needing gcc and gcc++ for class
and don't have much time compiling from scratch (as it will take 
for than a week for newbie like me). I am running UHC Unix SVR4.

Can someone give me a pointer (or ftp'site?) for me to get
binary of these two compilers?

Thanks in advance!!

Alan
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: pizzi@nervous.com (Riccardo Pizzi)
Subject: looking for X386 man page...
Followup-To: poster
Reply-To: pizzi@nervous.com (Riccardo Pizzi)
Organization: The Nervous XTC Public Access Unix System, Rimini, ITALY
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 10:51:28 GMT

I ftp'ed the XFree86 X/Window server from blancmange.ma.utexas.edu but
the server's man page seems to be missing from the distribution... could
someone please email it to me? The server is 1.2E rel. 1.0.2...

Thanks

Rick
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: apl@world.std.com (Anthony P Lawrence)
Subject: Re: HELP! Need advice moving site to Unix
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 10:19:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.042936.15112@sbcs.sunysb.edu> shane@sbgrad7.cs.sunysb.edu (Shane Bouslough) writes:
>: 
>: >If you want realy only poor terminal-connections, I think that
>: >telnet'ing or an Ethernet-Terminalserver isn't the best, because each
>: >keystroke sends a complete TCP-packet to the net. So the load on the
>: >ethernet might be very high.  ....
>: 
>: Depends on the TermServer. Anyway, the load is far less than
>: pumping un-necessary megabytes of records through the wire,
>: because some turkey's done an intteractive query which does
>: not bracket well.
>
I don't know a lot about this, so feel free to educate me.

I have been told that LAT buffers keystrokes so the keystroke=packet
thing isn't true.

But how can this be true for any app reading raw?  It seems to me that
any key hit has to be sent along rather immediately, so how can there
be much buffering?

And, (again, unconfuse me if I'm blathering) what does the Terminal 
Server have to do with that, anyway?  If it supports LAT, what's the
use if your SCO box doesn't?

Terminal servers seem to make sense to me when you need to easily
connect to n different boxes without having to go through any particular
box.  Other than that, I don't see the point- but point me straight if
I'm screwy :-)

		Tony

Lawrence & Clark, Inc		(617) 762-0707	(206) 323-2864
Xenix/Unix support,etc 	 	 Boston		 Seattle

Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch)
Subject: Looking for Colorado Memory Systems experiences
Organization: Somewhere just far enough out of Toronto
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:09:07 GMT

There was a recent thread on the goods and (mostly) bads of CMS tape
subsystems. I now have a client who's being pushed a CMS tape drive (the
kind that use the floppy controller) by their hardware-maintenance
contractor. 

If there are any of you who have archived the information about
comments on CMS of their drives, or technical considerations on using
the floppy drive controller for a tape backup, please reply. Also, if
you have any first-hand comments about using CMS products in a
Xenix/UNIX environment, please let me know.

Kindly reply by e-mail only, for two reasons:

a) Most of this has already been handled in public;

b) I need this information relatively fast.

Thanks for any help any of you can offer...

-- 
 Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software Ltd., located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario
         evan@telly.on.ca / uunet!utzoo!telly!evan / (416) 452-0504
         "IBM's three letters are probably EBCDIC for CYA" - Nik H.
From: csthomas@gizmonic.UUCP (shane thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Binaries/objects question
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:19:06 GMT
Reply-To: csthomas@gizmonic.UUCP (shane thomas)
Distribution: na
Organization: FiFi's Taco Stand

Hello, 

Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but I'ma bit confused. Would
binary and object files compiled on one verison of an Intel-based UNIX
operate/link correctly on another? For example, SCO libraries on
Dell's SvR4 UNIX.

thanks,

shane

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: eder@D012S638.sniap.mchp.sni.de (Johannes Eder bei SNI-AP251)
Subject: Re: <mtio.h> for ISC 2.2 needed
Organization: Siemens-Nixdorf AG
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 15:55:30 GMT

In article <92261.103854HMZ015@DJUKFA11.BITNET> HMZ015@DJUKFA11.BITNET (Joseph D. Reger) writes:
>
>I have just installed the newest version of TAR and CPIO from the GNU project,
>and I like them a lot. Much to my grief I did not get MT compiled, I do not
>seem to have /usr/include/sys/mtio.h for magnetic tape manipulation..
>I have a WANGTEK SCSI streamer that works just fine, and I would love to put
>several tar files onto one tape.

Interactive has instead of the <sys/mtio.h> the <sys/gentape.h> includefile.
On Interactive Version 3.0 there is already the MT program. It does not
have all the options the BSD-version has, but it is the only
possibility i know.

Joh. Eder

Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: shane@sbgrad7.cs.sunysb.edu (Shane Bouslough)
Subject: Re: unix sugestions on pc
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, State U of NY at Stony Brook
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:55:48 GMT

ECKHARDT, JASON LEE (jle9162@zeus.tamu.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Oct1.1221.12889@channel1>, "richard hajinlian"
:	<richard.hajinlian@channel1.com> writes...
:
: >I'm looking for suggestions on which unix OS to use.  Any comments
: >will be greatly appreciated.  My hardware consists of:
: >386 40mhz cpu, 8m ram, 1gb disk, adaptec 1542b with a ati vga wonder +.
: >I'm looking for suggestions on a lan card.
: > 
: >I wish to learn X windows (motif if possable), TCP/IP sockets (I'll
: >get the second machine soon  $$$$ ouch!).  It would be nice if there was
: >a c(++) environment also.  And all this (TCP/IP and above software)
: >for under $1,000?  Tall order?
:
:   The only unix I can think of where you will get all that mentioned above
: for under $1000 is Consensys UNIX SVR4. I have a friend thats been using
: it for a while with no problems, an excellent product. $795
: 
:   Others, like SCO won't give you much for under $1000. (I use SCO...)
: 
: I'm not sure about Dell unix, they might have a good price, someone here
: can confirm?

You should really read the software FAQ from this group. All the major
players for the intel platform are discussed at length. Anyone who
needs it can email me.

Be aware that Consensys raised their prices recently and are about to do
so again in the near future (when they release 4.2 I suppose). This info
from Marketing VP Jim Barclay in a phone call Sept 28.

Jim said they only support SCSI disks and the Stealth VGA card (???).
This seems to be at odds with the FAQ which says all 4.0 derivatives
support IDE and any video card that supports SVGA. Jim said an ATI
Graphics Ultra driver is available from another company for $$$ but
he couldn't remember the name.

Their current version (SVR4.0) goes for almost exactly $1000 (with the
works), and they would charge $500 for the 4.2 upgrade when it became
available later this month. Note also the price is for a QIC tape release.
They tack on a hefty $100+ charge if you want it on (60) floppies. This
price includes all options including X/Motif/Xview (MoOLIT).

From the FAQ and traffic in this group, it seems like Dell might be a
better choice. Better tech support, more hardware supported, a more
stable kernel, etc. At $1200, the extra $200 might be worth it.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: ed@maxed.amg.com (Ed Whittemore)
Subject: Re: Destiny vs ODT vs Dell vs ESIX
Keywords: Destiny ODT SCO Dell ESIX
Organization: American Micro Group, Ft. Lee  NJ
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:23:03 GMT

In article <philipr.717832924@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU> philipr@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Philip Rhoades) writes:
>I read with interest the toing and froing about the pros and 
>cons of Dell UNIX vs ESIX. We use ODT V1.1 ourselves but I find
>that I sympathised with comments from supporters of both of the
>other versions.
>
>The question is: If Destiny retails for about US$300 will it not
>undercut a lot of the debate about bundling/unbundling? I have 
>been frustrated by not having the ODT Dev Sys. It looks as though
>Destiny is the all singing, all dancing solution to just about
>everyone's needs - no? If the cost of Destiny in site licence
>situations (teaching institutions) is reduced still further -
>how could groups who need a little multi-user (or a lot)
>decide in favour of things like Windows or OS/2? 
>
>Will Destiny be a real mass market product?
>
>-- 
>Philip Rhoades
>First Year Biology
>University of Sydney
>phil@biox.bio.su.OZ.AU or philipr@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU

Destiny is to be the real "Unix Lite". Much of the guts of Unix 
including many of the basic utilities are removed, and the OS will
come in two versions, one client, one server, according to the latest
we've heard and read.

Many of the readers of these newsgroups will not consider Destiny
to be Unix.

Ed Whittemore   uupsi!maxed!ed   ed@maxed.amg.com
American Micro Group, Inc.   201-944-3293
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva)
Subject: Re: Unix "Lite" is not so light
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:02:47 GMT

In article <9210032357.28@rmkhome.UUCP> rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
> In article <id.RCRT.WZ@ferranti.com> peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva) writes:
> >In article <2979@news.cerf.net> jde@esix.everex.com (Jeff Ellis) writes:
> >> BTW What features are important for you people to buy 4.2? 

> >Price competitive with OS/2 and NT.

> Big price difference.  NT may end up in the $500+ range.

I sincerely hope so. But don't count on it. I'm expecting $150, no matter what
they say beforehand.

> >Base system running in 2MB RAM, 40 MB hard disk. Compilers or X in 4 MB.

> I hope that somewhere out there, in a dank basement, surrounded by junk
> food wrappers and empty coffee cups, is a person who is obsessed with
> developing a GUI system that is compatible with X-11 but 1/4 the size.

No problem... just junk all the OpenMotifDeskTop crap.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: bc@leis.bellcore.com (B. Cooney)
Subject: HELP!! login problem
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 19:25:28 GMT



A friend of mine is having a problem at a customer site.  He is on a NCR 2440 under SCO unix 3.2.2.

Once in a while users will be unable to log onto the system.  The scenario is as follows:

login: mitch

(The screen will sit for about 30 seconds then the following error appears)

cannot obtain database information on this terminal.

Then brings you back to the login prompt.  This happens for all users.

He kept a console window logged on as root and was able to do a
ps -eaf and all looked OK.  He is able to shutdown and when the reboot is completed, the problem disappears.

Does anyone have any suggestions and/or solutions?

You can email responses to me since his company is not on the network.


Thanks

Bill Cooney









Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: peet@locus.com (J. David Peet)
Subject: Re: Destiny vs ODT vs Dell vs ESIX
Keywords: Destiny ODT SCO Dell ESIX
Organization: Locus Computing Corp, Los Angeles
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 02:58:35 GMT

philipr@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Philip Rhoades) writes:
>The question is: If Destiny retails for about US$300 will it not
>undercut a lot of the debate about bundling/unbundling? I have 
>been frustrated by not having the ODT Dev Sys. It looks as though
>Destiny is the all singing, all dancing solution to just about
>everyone's needs - no?

>Will Destiny be a real mass market product?

Don't confuse "Destiny" with Univel's "UnixWare".  "Destiny" is USL's
name for their new SVR4.2 release.  As far as I have read about in the
magazines, they are are not selling it directly to end users.  Does
anyone have contrary info?  Their OEMS, (Univel, ESIX, ...) bundle it 
(or unbundle it) anyway they want, and give it their own name (e.g.
Univel calls it "UnixWare"), and sell it at whatever price they want
(except lower than the royalty paid to USL).

I believe that the basic UnixWare bundle does not have a Dev Sys, and
thus is basically similar to ODT.  This unbundling of the Dev Sys
from the base package is the way most OEMs seems to be going these days.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: root@maxed.amg.com (0000-Admin(0000))
Subject: Re: ISC 3.0 with EISA OPTI chipset?
Organization: American Micro Group, Ft. Lee  NJ
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 16:48:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep22.204508.12396@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> ukrainec@nimios.eng.mcmaster.ca (Andrew Ukrainec) writes:
>Is anyone out there running ISC Unix on one of the new EISA boards with
>the OPTI chipset, rather than the Intel EISA chipset?  If so, are there
>any problems?  I would like to run this configuration with an Adaptec
>or Bustek EISA SCSI controller, but since the chipset is rather new,
>I'm nervous about getting it.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>-- 
>         Andrew Ukrainec                 ukrainec@nimios.eng.mcmaster.ca 
>          <    (*) >               /  \             < (*)    >           
>Communications Research Laboratory      McMaster Univ, Hamilton, Ontario

The chipset is not a problem; who knows about the board or ram?

Also, there is a problem with the Adaptec 174(x) sometimes with SCSI
tape, that causes system hangs or crashes.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: ice@skynet.uucp (Ice)
Subject: Re: Wangtek or Archive??
Organization: Industrial Cybernetics
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 23:31:32 GMT

In article <2ABFD9F1.4C28@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes:
>In addition to the question of Wangtek and Archive, I'm also
>curious about reactions about two other brands of SCSI tape
>drives:
>
>- Tandberg (didn't they use to make really good audio cassette decks?)

I believe this one uses SCSI-II which permits random access. Can't
be more specific than this.

This info is from a port of GNU-TAR to DOS...

Ice()
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: What are SCSI tape device names?
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 04:48:26 GMT

In article <279@wafbox.UUCP> bill@wafbox.UUCP (Bill Fulton) writes:
>In article <BuzvI5.7wz@ernest.dseg.ti.com> alan@ernest.dseg.ti.com (Alan Edmonds) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep22.023924.15091@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umcarls9@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Charles Carlson) writes:
>>>Now, I've gotten one SCSI drive up and running, but the tape is being stubborn
>>>now.  When the system boots up it reports 1 SCSI drive, and stays nothing
>>>about the tape.  The tape does wind and grind for quite awhile.
>>>
>>>When I use my PC36 interface drive I get /dev/tape among other related
>>>things, but I get nothing with the SCSI tape as far as I can see.
>>>I did tell HPDD that there is a generic SCSI tape, and I've made it SCSI ID 2.
>>
>>Make it SCSI ID 4 and your problems will be solved.
>>I don't remember how I learned this; probably someone posted it.
>
>My recollection is that ID's 0-3 were hardwired for disk device support,
>ID's 4-7 were hardwired for tape device support.
        ^ 7 is usually the adaptor address.   With you scheme you
	wouldn't have an address for the adaptor :-)

The rest are system dependant.    I've seen HD's start a 6 and work
down, and 0 and work up.  

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: kdenning@portal.hq.videocart.com (Karl Denninger)
Subject: Re: Destiny vs ODT vs Dell vs ESIX
Summary: Destiny ALSO does not include a dev sys
Keywords: Destiny ODT SCO Dell ESIX
Organization: VideOcart Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:06:30 GMT

In article <philipr.717832924@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU> philipr@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Philip Rhoades) writes:
>I read with interest the toing and froing about the pros and 
>cons of Dell UNIX vs ESIX. We use ODT V1.1 ourselves but I find
>that I sympathised with comments from supporters of both of the
>other versions.
>
>The question is: If Destiny retails for about US$300 will it not
>undercut a lot of the debate about bundling/unbundling? I have 

I saw Destiny at Xhibition.

I tried:

cc -s -o test test.c

cc: not found

Does that answer your question?

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: marc@r-node.gts.org (Marc Fournier - Sys Admin)
Subject: Irwin Tape Drive on ISCSVR3.2
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 02:45:44 GMT

Hi...

	Does anyone what is required to install an Irwin Tape
Drive with ISCSVR3.2.  I've just basically been offered an
old 10Mb one so that I can do some backing up, but have never
dealt with Tape Drive's myself.  I know that the OS has support
for Wangtek(sp?), but what is required for different brands?

	The price is right, what can I say :)

Marc
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.sys5.r4
From: garyb@gcm.com (Gary Blumenstein)
Subject: Re: Update on SAS 2.0
Organization: Greenwich Capital Markets, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:12:14 GMT

<< origionally posted to comp.unix.sysv386>>

Evan Leibovitch (evan@telly.on.ca) wrote:
: I was talking to Roe Peterson on the phone this weekend. He gave me an
: update on the development of SAS, and said it was OK for me to repeat
: what he told me. He's been a bit busy to post on it himeslf.
: [..stuff deleted..]
: Hang tough, and don't bug Roe about SAS. He'll be posting it when it's ready.

Evan,

Thanks for the update.  I know I speak for many (the nerve of me :-) when I 
say that we appreceate the work he's done with SAS.  I've been  eagerly 
awaiting the 2.0 release, so now I can sleep at night knowing that Roe has not 
forsaken us!

- Gary
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