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From: music@moravian.edu (Steve Heller)
Subject: Re: Favorite beer
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 18:44:12 EDT

In <l9sh5hINNt8u@earth.cs.utexas.edu> wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward) writes:

>My favorite beer is Traquair House Ale from Scotland.  It is
>head and shoulders above all the other beers that I have tried.
>I tried it during a sampling session with a couple different
>Samuel Smith's beers and several other world class beers, and
>Traquair made them all look common in comparison.  The one
>HUGE negative about Traquair is its price, it sells for about
>$7/bottle!  $42 per sixpack is exorbitant, you can almost get
>a case of Samuel Smith's for that, but for a peek at beer
>heaven, try Traquair House Ale.

I find Traquair House Ale truly superb...but not worth the outreagous
price (well maybe once in a great while). Properly aged Thomas Hardy
Ale is certainly a close second for me, but that too is a costly item.
Properly aged and cared for Belgian monestary ales are often
exquisite. Duvel, the champaign of bottled beers (and you thought it
was Miller High Life :-), is another fine product and amoung my
all-time favorites. And those fruity lambics, while not a "regular"
kind of beer, are astonishingly tasty. On the lower end of the price
scale, but certainly excellent, I'd include Fuller's ESB, Belhaven
Scotch Ale and Anchor Liberty Ale (as well as Steam Beer).


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From: mcnally@wsl.dec.com (Mike McNally)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: 33 -- what does it mean ?!? (Beufort)
Date: 1 Sep 92 00:36:44 GMT
Organization: DEC Palo Alto

david@master.uchicago.edu writes:
>Has anyone heard the Rolling Rock commercials asking what the 33 on the
>back of the bottle means ?  

I maintain that it's the original gravity.





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From: an314@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Timothy Golobic)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: new Beer Games index (8/31/92)
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:12:28 GMT
Reply-To: an314@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Timothy Golobic)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, dleslie@aludra.usc.edu (David Leslie) says:

>
>It's great that the internet provides such important resources to
>college students. I for one am thankful :)  But seriously, is there
>a way to get all the BeerGames in one large file? I'd like to have
>them all on file, but don't really want to ftp them one by one.

within the ftp site, if you type

	mget *

you can retrieve all at once.
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: Boston brewpubs?
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:01:02 GMT

In article 1802@ceylon.gte.com, rv01@harvey.gte.com (Robert Virzi) writes:
>Commonwealth Brewing.  The oldest and a producer of some very good
>beer.  The brewmeister was formerly at Manhattan Brewing in NYC.  Food
>isn't too bad either.  Near Fanuiel Hall, between it and the Boston Garden,
>where the Celtics play.
           ^^^^^^^
What's that...that silly follow-the-bouncing-ball game?
The BRUINS play at the Garden!  :-)

Anyway, thanks for the list...I'll be in Boston in a couple of weeks
myself.  Anybody up for a beer?

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Mickey's Big Mouths are an excellent choice, you can use the empty bottles as a
desktop vase.                               -Hoodlum Empire "Get Drunk At Work"
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From: greer@mwk.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Russian lupulins landing!
Date: 2 Sep 92 09:18:34 CST
Organization: M. W. Kellogg, Houston TX


From the business section of the Houston Post, 2 September 1992:


                               Red Foam Rising

          Russian beer may sound a little like German vodka.  But it's 
     here.  A ship at the Port of Houston is unleashing 1,500 cases on 
     the community.  The fizzy details:  Interfoods, a Houston company 
     owned by Russian emigre Galina Zorina, is sole Texas distributor
     for Moscow Brewery, established in 1863.  The new beer, Troika,
     indeed has more fizz than the brew for Russian consumption, Zorina
     said.  "We didn't think Americans would like that so much."


Probably not too good, but I'll have to try it.  Anybody got this stuff
anywhere else?
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From: parsons@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Subject: Re: Opinions on Pete's
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:22:41 GMT

us267384@mmm.serc.3m.com (Steven M. Anastasi) writes:

>From article <BtnA73.1I@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, by parsons@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Parsons):
>> marko@ocf.berkeley.edu (Mark Nolte) writes:
>> 
>>>Any information or opinions would be appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> 	I've always been fond of Pete's Wicked.  I like it's curious little
>> bite.  What I find strange, though, is that the stuff we get here in the
>> East is brewed in Palo Alto (or somewhere in CA) under liscence.  Do they
>> actually still brew it in Wisconsin?  Or is it like Sam Adams used to
>> be--brewed everywhere but Boston, but headquartered in Boston.  It sure
>> seems that Pete's is becoming more of a mini like Sam Adams as opposed to a
>> true micro (that's not a criticism).
>> 
>> 	Cheers!
>> 		-m.
>> 
>Pete's Wicked Ale is contract brewed at the August Schell brewery in New Ulm,
>Minnesota.  Try some of August Schell's premium beers if you can find
>them - they are quite good.


	I meant Minnesota when I said Wisconsin.  Pardon my East Coast
ignorance.  But if it's contract brewed in Minn., where is Pete's
headquartered?  Where was it first brewed?  Is it still brewed there?

	-m.

Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: KARLIN@BNLCL6.BNL.GOV (P.L. Cowan)
Subject: McSorely's (was EKU and Spaten)
Organization: BROOKHAVEN NATIONAL LABORATORY
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:18:23 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

In <BtLMCG.EuF@wrs.com> gak@wrs.com writes:

: >>That's pretty much true.  I can only think of one bar in the States
: >>where you can order "a beer" and get one*, instead of having to choose
: >>a brand.
: >>*Any guesses from the audience?
: 
: McSorely's in New York.  Is it still there?
: 
: $0.25 draws, but you can only buy six at a time.
: 
: Go in the afternoon...I've seen two-block-long lines to get in
: on weekend nights.
: 

Happily, McSorely's is still there. Sadly, the draws are $1.50 each (you can
order them one at a time, but who would want to?) BTW you do have to specify 
light or dark.


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From: brown@odin.ins.cwru.edu (Dan Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: FAQ?? (was Home Brew!!)
Date: 4 Sep 1992 01:09:29 GMT
Organization: Subversive Student Publications un-inc.
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In an earlier posting mece1xg@Rosie.UH.EDU writes:
>In article <18688dINN9et@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, brown@odin.ins.cwru.edu (Dan Brown) writes:
>>
>> [...my stupid question about the FAQ deleted...]
>>
>>Well... if you read the automated post, you would see that you can get
>>a copy of the faq from the "achive site" which is ftp.cwru.edu. Things
>>are a bit out of date, since I haven't had time to work on them, but...
>>its there!
>>
>>later.
>>Dan
>>
>
>OOPS!  i guess i goofed!  oh well, that's what happens when you open
>your mouth a little too quickly.  i DID find the FAQ, and it IS as
>dan said.  and i AM apologizing for making a fool of myself.

No problem... 

BTW, if anyone has any rewriting that could be done to the FAQ, PLEASE
let me know... I haven't really even had time to look at it. I do have 
a couple changes that I would like to make, but... if there are any others...



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From: hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mathew A. Hennessy)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Blue Velvet: Heineken, ...
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:57:43 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Sep3.143548.4056@csc.ti.com> jimv@dadd.ti.com writes:
>In article 715525452@marie, rickman@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Rickmer Kose) writes:
>>did anyone watch the movie blue velvet?
>>
>>frank asks: whats your favourite beer?
>>answer    : Heineken.
>>frank     : fuck Heineken! Pebbs Blue Ribbon!
>>
>>Sounds nice. But absolutely noone here knows this kind of beer.
>>Who is able to help me and tells me where to order that beer?
>
>You're kidding, right?  Pabst Blue Ribbon.  Otherwise known as PBR.  Not good
>stuff, you might as well search for a Carlings Black Label, or even a Red-White-
>and-Blue.   I hope that this line in the movie was merely sarcasm...

	Not sarcasm, really.  It's just that Frank (played by Dennis Hopper)
is a psychopathic kidnapper.  You just have to see it to understand it (or not
understand it)..  

>
>While at Daytona Beach (motorcycle week), I "sampled" a few beers labeled 
>:Harley-Davidson" beer.  In black and silver cans.  Arrgghhh.  I could only
>drink it at about 33 degrees....   Read the back label, made by Pabst Blue Ribbon,

	Ahh, welcome to PBR's loss leaders...  ever tried Hamms?  lucky you
didn't.  almost bad as *gasp* Koch's 25th anniversary which is actually
cheaper than coke per case.




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From: an314@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Timothy Golobic)
Subject: change in FTP for Beer Games !! please read
Reply-To: tgolobic@indiana.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 00:58:02 GMT


for those of you who acquire Beer Games through the FTP sites, please take
note that the United States site (cs.umn.edu) is no longer available,
don't try to use it. 

thanks

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: lkimmel@alfred.carleton.ca (Les Kimmel)
Subject: homebrew
Summary: can one make Carlsberg Light type homebrew
Keywords: Carlsberg Light
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:15:03 GMT

I've recently begun homebrewing and was wondering if there is a closese s
close extract to Carlsberg Light (well, OK, Carlsberg). My wife and I
always drank it and enjoy the new homemade batches but hope to make
something a little closer to our old faithful. 

Thanks in advance.
From: norton@ctron.com (Dave Norton)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Breweries in New England and Maine.
Keywords: micro, brewpub, New England, Maine
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:13:49 GMT
Reply-To: norton@olympus.ctron.com (Dave Norton)
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

In article <adamoski.714635899@sfu.ca> adamoski@fraser.sfu.ca (Robert Adamoski) writes:
>Greetings. I've just recently been turned on to this group - great! I'm
>planning a trip to New England (esp. Boston area) and Maine and I'm interested
>in any suggestions re: micro-breweries or brew-pubs we might check out.
> 
>Come on all you east-coast 'ers, lets hear what you've got to crow about!
>.

Boston:  The only brew-pub I've frequented in Boston is the Commonwealth
brewery, which is down in the general area of Boston Garden.  As I recall
they brew a very good beer, and the food/service was marginal.  The are
a few other breweries I heard about, particularly in Cambridge, but I
have yet to partake.


Portsmouth, NH:  The Portsmouth Brewery is about a 7 on a scale of
1 to 10.  The beer there has been inconsistent from my experience,
great on day and I'm leaving a 1/2 pint on the bar the next.  It's
located in the "historic waterfront area" of Portsmouth, so if your
in the area I would have to vote it worthy of try.


Kennebunk, ME:  The Kennebunk Brewery, is a brand new facility that
is in a resturant/shop combination building called The Shipyard. IMO
this brewpub has the best beer of lot here in Maine.  The brewery was
set up by the same group that set up Geary's MicroBrewery.  The Shipyard
is located in lower village Kennebunk right across the river from
Kennebunkport.  There are excellent views of the river and Kennebunkport
from the pub located upstairs from the brewery it'self.

Portland, ME:  Gritty McDuff's, located in the Old Port area of
Portland is probably one of the older brewpubs in the region.  
Personally I don't care for the place.  You'll find it packed
tight with patrons, many of which are drinking commercial beers
and hard liquor drinks.  Grittys has great T shirts though.

Bar Harbor, ME:  There is a brewery in the area, but I'm not
familiar with any particulars.  Bar Harbor is a small place 
shouldn't be to hard to find.

Geary's is a microbrewery that sells bottled beer and kegged 
beer to resturants in the area.  There is no Geary's brewpub,
although you can tour the brewery located in Westbrook, ME I
believe.  Geary's has a great lobster logo on the bottle, if
your into collecting bottles it's one to add to your collection.
Geary's brews a seasonal beer called Hampshire Ale, that is 
excellent.  Hampshire Ale will be showing up the beer stores in
October-November time frame.

Enjoy your trip to New England.


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From: Robert.T.Warfield@dartmouth.edu (Robert T. Warfield)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: German Pisswater
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:05:17 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a2@newshost.dartmouth.edu


I have here in my hand a bottle of Gilde Pilfener. It tastes like a
clone of Heiniken. No body at all.

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: jmellby@iluvatar.dseg.ti.com (John R. Mellby)
Subject: Re: CA: beers i should drink/avoid
Organization: TI-DSEG Spring Creek
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:30:31 GMT

In article <Btwpqv.BC7@wrs.com>, gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven) writes:
|> In article 7721@leland.Stanford.EDU, jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:
|> >	Two other great northern California brewers (which you might be able
|> >to find in better liquor stores) are Steelhead and Anderson Valley.  I
|> 
|> Here we go...AV beers are foul swill.  I can't even choke one down, and
|> I've tried and tried.  Lots of people really like it though, so my
|> advice is give it a try and see what you think.

NoNoNoNo!
The first bottles of Anderson Valley we had years ago were a little old,
but friends took a 25-brewpub tour of CA and said Anderson Valley
(at the source) was the second-best beer that they found.  Their
Poleko Gold was rated very highly, as was their (oatmeal?) Stout.
After tasting fresh bottles from the brewery, we were all very impressed.

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: rwieler@ee.umanitoba.ca (wieler)
Subject: test
Reply-To: rwieler@ee.umanitoba.ca
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:44:43 GMT

this is a test as my last posting didn`t work



testing over
rich

Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: kyle@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kyle Wohlmut)
Subject: Coaster Exchange
Followup-To: alt.beer, sender
Organization: Rocking Pig Enterprises
Distribution: public, world
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:36:42 GMT

This has been posted before but I didn't get much of a response the
first time; figured it's been long enough to try again.  I'm trying to
fill out my coaster collection, and am interested in trading
coasters/beermats and 'table-tents' (folded-card tabletop beer ads)
through the mail.  I have paraphenalia of the quintessential 'local
brews' (San Francisco Bay Area) as well as a good sampling from around
the world.  If any interest, please e-mail me right away.  All trades
accepted, but the farther-away the better!  Go on out there and get
stealing from your favourite pub.  Will also consider trading for
other beer-related items, for you can/bottle/bottletop nuts...

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: jkdickin@yoho.uwaterloo.ca (John K. Dickinson)
Subject: Could someone tell me about the campaign for Real Ale
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:47:12 GMT

	As in the subject. All I know is that it exists. Also could someone
point me to a good history of BEER/ALE from ancient to current times and
something that explains the facts and falsisms used in beer comercials today
such as "cold filtered", "blends".... etc.

	I know it is much to ask but maybe I will learn from the responses.

	John (I love beer but don't know enough to talk about it {Real Beer})

Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: mece1xg@Elroy.UH.EDU (purna)
Subject: Re: Homemade Black and Tans
Reply-To: mece1xg@Elroy.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:04:35 GMT

In article <17gvmpINNcr6@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU>, dwv@cs.brown.edu (David W. Vorbrich) writes:
>I asked this a while ago, and had no response...
>
>How can I go about making Black and Tans at home... with bottled brews of course.
>I've tried a couple of times to no avail, and REALLY would like to do this.
>
>-David V.
> dwv@cs.brown.edu

howdy!

take one chilled mug.  fill it half full with Bass or Harp (other choices
are also possible; so please, no flames).  fill the rest of the mug very
*SLOWLY* with Guinness.  if done properly, it should look double layered.
drink with pleasure :)

-purna
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: olemo@dhhalden.no (OLE-MAGNUS OLSEN)
Subject: Re: Really good beer!
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:58:09 GMT

In article <guest.14@dhhalden.no> guest@dhhalden.no (.GJEST) writes:

>If you want to know it, the town of Fredrikstad, in Norway is the right 
>place to go.
>The local brewery "Fredrikstad Bryggeri" produces some of the most extremely 
>good beer there is to get (pardon me for never having tasted unlicensed-
>brewed Austrlian beer).
>Most of their different products are of lager-taste, with alcoholpercentage 
>ranging between 4,5% and 7%, with the strongest, being christmas-beer that 
>is, averaging on 8%.
>So don't delay!
>Your trip will repay! (when refreshing on the delicious Fredrikstad-pils)
>By the way, when it comes to more international beers, I would prefer 
>Carlsberg or Amstel, wich is allmost as good as Norwegian beer.

That "Fredrikstad Bryggeri" produces extremely good beer is true, but the 
brewery in the neighbourtown Sarpsborg, "Borg Bryggerier" brews even better 
beer. Borg Bryggerier owns Fredrikstad Bryggeri.

Local patriot Dag Thalberg (dagt@dhhalden.no) - borrowing a friend's account
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