HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Robert Oliver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: RIKER: tailcoat-riding pussy?
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 23:04:37 EDT
Reply-To: tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Robert Oliver)
Organization: Ailanthus Project

rrogers@watson.ibm.com (Ryan Rogers) writes:

> In  <tomcat.717500704@cwis>  tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo) writes:
> > goudswaa@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter Goudswaard) writes:
> >
> > >Why has Riker turned down so many starship commands?  One one hand, we
> > >have a brilliant officer who has made a career move to stay aboard the
> > >Enterprise as her First Officer, yet on the other, he has turned down
> > >far too many offers for us to believe that it would be a good career
> > >move.  Unless he is a firm believer in the Peter Principle, he is
> > >getting to be a waste of a good officer.  The Federation needs him
> > >more than Picard does.  What could possess a man to stay aboard the
> > >Enterprise for so long?  He needs a command of his own soon, or
> > >to be killed off.
> >
> > >/Peter (unprincipled)
> >
> >
> >   I think we have to think outside of Star Trek in this case.  If Riker wer
> > to take command of a vessel, that would me Jonathen Frakes would have to le
> > the show...and he has no intention of leaving.  It's not every day an actor
> > gets the opportunity to work on a show and have it be a hit and a mean a
> > steady job for a long period of time.  Frakes has said before that he would
> > the show for as long as it was on the air.
> >   Now, in the world of Star Trek, Riker has been around for a long time and
> > does need to move on.  But, he still has some learning to do. How long has
> > Picard been a captain?  When will he move on to admiral and give a command
> > to a younger officer?  It goes both ways, I think.  Picard is an experience
> > commander, and Riker is still learning.  Riker is waiting for Picard to mov
> > up, so he can have the _Enterprise_.  I would, that's for sure.
> 
>    Well...you should *not* see a newly-promoted Captain get the E-D, or any
> Galaxy Class ship for that matter...they just don't have the experience.
> In BOBW II, Riker was promted to the *field* commission of Captain.  Had
> Riker gotten rid of the Borg w/o getting Picard back, I find it very unlikely
> that he would have retained his Captaincy (abord the Enterprise, anyway).
> 
>    On the other hand, James T. Kirk's first command was the Enterprise, a
> Starfleet Heavy Cruiser and one of the most sophisticated ships of the time,
> however; Starfleet at the time of TNG is *much* different, IMHO.  For
> instance, Picard was the captain of the Stargazer for 20 years.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> Ryan Rogers

Don't forget the massacre of 39 Starfleet ships by the Borg at Wolf 359. 
It isn't revealed how many people (if any) survived, but the odds are 
that all the captains died.
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From: calamity@acca.nmsu.edu (Calamity Jane)
Subject: Re: TNG has only 3 plots, and it keeps reusing them!
Organization: New Mexico State University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:39:26 GMT


I agree.
Xref: sparky rec.arts.startrek.misc:9716 rec.arts.startrek.tech:5106 rec.arts.startrek.current:13839
From: tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Robert Oliver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.tech,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: STAR TREK TIMELINE?
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 02:28:44 EDT
Reply-To: tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Robert Oliver)
Organization: Ailanthus Project

I've been thinking of posting the Star Trek Timeline again but I'm not 
sure if it's worth it. Each time I post I request comments and 
corrections on the timeline and usually receive very little feedback. 
While nobody is under any obligation to respond, the difficulty in 
getting the info ready (taking a heavily formatted Pagemaker document and 
converting it into ASCII text) is somewhat time-consuming and rather 
tediously boring. What I'm wondering is if this timeline is in demand? If 
you want to see it posted, send me e-mail and I will see how many 
responses I get. If I get enough responses I will post it in about a 
week.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (DICKENJD)
Subject: Re: Star Trek mailing list?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:58:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.141913.28655@news.media.mit.edu>, lawrence@media.mit.edu (Brian L. Lawrence) writes...
>Can anyone please let me know if there is a mailing list for trekkies?
>I have some freinds who do not have NetNews access and were wondering if
>there is some kind of mailing list.  If so could you please mail me the
>address to send any requests to get on the mailing list.  Thanx.
> 
>Brian Lawrence
>brian@soliton.creol.ucf.edu
>lawrence@media.mit.edu
> 
> 
	Actuall, if there is a mailing list, can you go ahead and
post the address?

J. David Dickens ... dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu
From: cmhayes@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Purple Hayes   )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Why Riker REALLY stays on board the E-D
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:45:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Who is to say that Riker will get command if and when Picard
croaks?  For all he knows Starfleet could bring in someone else
to take command.

IMHO 
Chris
cmhayes@sdcc13.ucsd.edu
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Obtaining Vidiot's Guide and ftp problems
Date: 1 Oct 92 04:15:24 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: na
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <rccarm00.717804968@mik.uky.edu> rccarm00@mik.uky.edu (ron c carman) writes:
<In <6448@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> kelly1+@pitt.edu (Sonja N Muzyczka) writes:
<
<>Hail and greetings,
<
<>I have been trying to obtain Vidiot's TNG guide by anonymous ftp at
<>ftp.coe.montana.edu (192.31.215.240) but am continoulsy getting the
<>"only one anonymous user at a time" message. Even at ungodly hours
<>of the night.
<
<   Here's one of my pet peeves -- semi-related:  It is impossible for
<me to send mail to Vidiot.  Every time I try to do so, my mail bounces;
<and yes, I have tried *all* of his addresses.  
<   Anyone have an idea on how to fix this problem?

All of my internet addresses work.  The vidiot.uucp address doesn't for the
moment (connection problems between uwvax and rutgers).

I know the wi.extrel.com address works, as I get mail through it all the time.
Something has to be wrong with your links out.
-- 
      harvard\                          spool.cs.wisc.edu!astroatc!vidiot!brown
Vidiot  ucbvax!uwvax..........!astroatc!vidiot!brown
      rutgers/            INTERNET:vidiot!brown%astroatc.UUCP@spool.cs.wisc.edu
                                   brown@wi.extrel.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: quirk@pioneer.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk)
Subject: Re: VIDIOT! Get a clue!
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 00:03:16 GMT
Organization: Nit-Pickers for a Better Tomorow Afternoon

In article <22843@optima.cs.arizona.edu> william@cs.arizona.edu (William E. Hertling) writes:
>In article <c50nd9#@lynx.unm.edu> quirk@pioneer.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk) writes:
>>Time for a history lesson...
>>
>>Once upon a time, there was a newsgroup called rec.arts.startrek.
>>Last September/October or so, the group was reorganized into the
>>following newsgroups:
>>
>>rec.arts.startrek.fandom - Fandom/Real Life related subjects
>>rec.arts.startrek.technical - Treknology
>>rec.arts.startrek.current - Discussion of 'new/current' Trek shows,
>>                               books, etc.
>>rec.arts.startrek.misc - Everything else.
>
>Let's say my site only carries rec.arts.startrek.misc and
>rec.arts.startrek.creative. (Why they would only carry these I have no
>idea, but my site does seem to have randomly selected which newsgroups
>they would carry and which they would not.) Who would I have to speak to
>at my site to get them to carry the other startrek groups? Is there
>any information I should supply to him or her, so that their job is 
>easier, and thus they are more likely to actually carry it out.

I'll post this so that others will know who to pester.

Assuming that you're on a Unix system, mail to the 'postmaster'
account should be sent for anything having to do with mail or netnews.

>william@cs.arizona.edu

-- 
Capt. Gym Z. Quirk  (Known to some as Taki Kogoma)  quirk@pioneer.unm.edu
 I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to
                          what I have now...
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: rrogers@minnie.imd.nrc.ca
Subject: Where are ST GIF's
Organization: NRC-Institute for Marine Dynamics
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:05:10 GMT

	About a month ago, someone posted an anonymous ftp site for startrek
GIF's.  Since then, I have forgotten where to find them.  Could someone please
repost this information.

	Also, I have found these GIF's in a JPG format, but I am concerned
about the quality loss from compression/decompression.  Does anyone have any
comment on this.

						Thanks

						Rick
From: awesome@tradent.wimsey.bc.ca (Travis Leippi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Lists of Lists
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 14:11:13 PDT
Organization: TradeNET International Trade Corp.

Who maintains this list and how do I get a copy?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: Re: TNG has only 3 plots, and it keeps reusing them!
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:54:57 GMT

I agree with this post also, and actually it has made me realize just how  
repetitious the shows (even in the newest season) are getting.  This weeks show  
was about a member of the crew and a fear he had about the transporters, which  
fits perfectly into a slot in the 3-plot post.  Next week's show is about Troi  
falling in love (or just having sex or something) with some alien being.  Gee,  
that sounds just like another one of the plots mentioned.

As a matter of fact, even the season premiere fits into 'Data and his humanity'  
plot slot.

The more I think about it, the more I sense that if a lot of viewers are as  
aware as the original poster of this thread is, the more viewers that will tune  
away from ST:TNG this season (if they haven't already done so).

This is one of 3 shows I watch on television (the only show I try to watch  
regularly, or at least catch the ones I missed when they are re-run) and I  
think I'm going to be tuning out rather soon if the plots don't get any better.
-- 
-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
-- NeXTmail ok
From: Sem_Hoelscher@hb.maus.de (Sem Hoelscher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: RIKER: tailcoat-riding pussy?
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 23:43:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.13

Shacha Peter!

[pg] Enterprise as her First Officer, yet on the other, he has turned down
     far too many offers for us to believe that it would be a good career
     move.
Why?

[pg] Unless he is a firm believer in the Peter Principle, he is
     getting to be a waste of a good officer.
Does turning down command make him a worse officer??? - Oh, BTW, what is
the "Peter Principle"?

[pg]  The Federation needs him more than Picard does.
Uh????? By serving Picard as First Officer, he does not serve the Federation?
Sorry, I can't follow your train of thought!

[pg] What could possess a man to stay aboard the Enterprise for so long?
     He needs a command of his own soon, or to be killed off.
I disagree! Being a captain, =he= would be the one to stay aboard instead
of leading the away team. Can you imagine Riker sitting there and waiting
like Picard does? >8-) I have difficulties with this picture.

Oyori - Sem [from Northern Germany]
From: mgates@entiat.boeing.com (Michael Gates)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Question about Barclay actor
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:37:09 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Bellevue, WA



Is the actor who plays Barclay the same guy who played the crazy guy 
from the A-Team?
--
et tu mgates?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: std_fleming@hg.uleth.ca
Subject: Old Series incidental music
Reply-To: std_fleming@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 06:10:46 GMT

   I am looking for information on any company that sells the theme and
incidental music for ST:TOS on cassette.  Your (individual and/or collective)
help would really be appreciated.  Thanks>
                                            -John Fleming
                                             The University of Lethbridge
                                             (STD_FLEMING@HG.ULETH.CA)

  
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: goudswaa@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter Goudswaard)
Subject: Re: Who is Data?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 06:32:31 GMT

<SXM126@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>   After watching Star Trek: The Next Generation for four seasons, I entered
> into an in depth conversion about various cast members. Well the character
>name Data came up, and I have to honestly say I cannot remember who this
>member of the cast is. Could somebody please help me out?
>   Steve Mandel
>                SXM126@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
>  " You can produce the sound of the two hands clapping. Now, how does
>                  one hand sound?"

You *must* be kidding.

Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: startrek@camelot.bradley.edu (Joseph Schaeffer)
Subject: Re: Question about Barclay actor
Organization: Bradley University
Date:  1 Oct 92 12:58:46 GMT

In <MGATES.92Sep30133709@entiat.boeing.com> mgates@entiat.boeing.com (Michael Gates) writes:



>Is the actor who plays Barclay the same guy who played the crazy guy 
>from the A-Team?
>--

	Yes.  Dwight Schultz played "Howling Mad" Murdock on the A-Team.
	And now he play Reg Barclay on TNG.
--
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     --  STARTREK --          | "Captain's Log...spruce.  I don't know        
"Captain" Joseph A. Schaeffer |  why we have to have these logs on our        
"Captain James T. Kirk"       |  desks...but, they do make keen paper-
startrek@camelot.bradley.edu  |  weights. If only I had some paper." 

He's dead Jim... You get his tricorder and I'll grab his wallet.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: c60a-lc@danube.Berkeley.EDU (Chris Silva)
Subject: Trivia programs
Keywords: Trivia, TOS, TNG
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 03:09:43 GMT

I am looking for some FTP sites that have Star Trek Trivia programs
available.  I have checked a few Star Trek sites (ftp.coe.montana.edu)
and have come up ending.  I am looking for any sort of trivia program,
either TOS or TNG, that will run on a MS-DOS machine.  Any help would
be appreciated.  

Thanks...
Chris Silva
c60a-lc@danube.berkeley.edu
Please respond via e-mail.
From: firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith)
Subject: Re: Favorite Trek ENDINGS
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 16:33:22 GMT

>In article <8359@dirac.physics.purdue.edu> hinson@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Jason W. Hinson) writes:
>
>>>What is your favorite ending on a Star Trek show?  Perhaps it was
>>>humorous, or perhaps it provided a reflection on something that
>>>happened in the show.  So, name the episode, and maybe even give
>>>the reason you like the ending.
>

Well, if TNG is included here, the best ending I can think of was in the 
episode where Picard is on the bridge of the Enterprise but thinks he's on an
alien planet building a whole new life there (don't remember the title, sorry).
That ending where we just heard him playing his flute after he's reuinted
with people he essentially hasn't seen in seventy years, after finding out that
his children never existed -- that brought tears to my eyes.

Firestar
-- 
I don't bite, you know.    | Find me and turn thy | It is better to have loved 
Unless it's called for.    | back on heaven.      | and lost than to have your
-- Audrey Hepburn, Charade | -- R. W. Emerson     | finger caught in a blender.
*******************************************************************************
From: K.Haigh-Hutchinson@bradford.ac.uk (K.HAIGH-HUTCHINSON)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: How to get rn to copy messages. (Was LIS is better)
Keywords: rn copy
Date: 2 Oct 92 08:19:16 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: s1497@bravo

I now know how to do it.
I am grateful for your advice.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jeffb@audiolab.UWaterloo.ca (jeff bamford)
Subject: Re: Yar/Sela returning [I hope!]?
Organization: Audio Research Group, University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:45:55 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.165704.27975@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
>In article <1992Oct3.164213.10608@cs.wisc.edu> steve@picard.cs.wisc.edu (Steven Glinberg) writes:
>>I saw the following message posted a while ago on rn but never saw any answer.
>>Do you know anything about this?  I'm losing sleep over this, too.
>>Here's the msg:
>>
>>Spoiler for "The Hidden Driveway" follows,
>>	There is a rumour of an upcoming 6th season episode in which Sela takes
>>a Warbird back to the 23rd century (post STVI) and captures several members 
>>of 
>>the TOS crew in a diabolical plot to alter the course of Federation history.
>>It is not certain if Wm. Shatner has signed for the episode or not 
>>but apparently Capt. Sulu will be appearing with the Excelsior along with 
>>"several
>>familiar faces" in the crew.  The uplink date is supposed to be during the 
>>week
>>Nov. 31 to Dec 6.  Has any one else heard about this?  I am losing sleep over
>>this one!  Help!
>Nice hoax. 
	Hoax?  Hoax?  What makes you think this is a hoax?  Of course, Nov. 31
should tell you something.  
>>
>-------------------------- -------------------.------ ------------------------
>Kanamori's Episode Ratings: (last episode rated: "Time's Arrow Part II")
Say, are you the guy who rated TAII based on the commercial?  Could you give
the above episode a rating?  
JeffB
From: teexijd@ioe.ac.uk (IAN DAVENPORT)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: ST:TMP and ST:TNG music
Date: 27 Sep 92 21:07:13 GMT
Organization: Institute of Education, University of London

In <1992Sep26.201430.4830@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:


>	I just watched ST1 for the first time in a long time and
>I just noticed that the theme music for ST:TNG is used in the
>movie, in the scene where Kirk first appears. Is this a change
>from the original version of the movie, or is TNG music really
>not original?
>	-- Ethan

Yes.

Well, in the respect that the TNG music is non-original. I thought that
the TNG theme was actually the TMP main theme music, but I could be wrong.
Certainly this was the first thing that disappointed me about TNG. You would
have thought they could commission a new theme music. Although on the
Encounter at Farpoint CD, there is an alternate theme, which didn't impress
me greatly. The TMP/TNG theme of course also got re-used for STV, but 
enough of that movie already. Does anyone know why they didn't use the
alternate TNG theme music?

Ian J Davenport   MULLARD SPACE SCIENCE LABORATORY  ijd@uk.ac.ucl.mssl
     "Under the circumstances, I believe ... {my chips!}" - Data

>purgamentum init, exit purgamentum
From: CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: The origin of the Borg
Date: 2 Oct 92 00:33:31 GMT
Organization: McGill University

You know, I've been spending a lot of time on the Net lately and it
got me thinking: maybe the Borg started this way.  Perhaps talking
to the same people about the same things over and over became
unsatisfying for them and they needed to assimulate others.  Then,
with more users their system became slow and they had to acquire
more and more new technology.  It's a frightening prospect.  I'm
anxiously waiting to hear what other people think.  In fact, I'm
thinking of having some implants put in so I can know right away when
someone has either replied to or followed up this article. :)

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these are a few of my least favorite things.
From: dianetti@acsu.buffalo.edu (Donald J. Dianetti)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Spelling question
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:51:19 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Sep29.104745.2448@klaava.Helsinki.FI> valiviit@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Mika Valiviita) writes:
>How is the Klingons penal asteroid in ST VI spelled?

It's spelled Rura Penthe in the script I have.


-- 
Don Dianetti  --  SUNY at Buffalo  --  dianetti@acsu.buffalo.edu
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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: HELP!! Info on Picard's Background!!
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 15:41:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep23.205438.3254@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> shayden@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Sean Lee Hayden) writes:

>	I am writing a paper on Picard the CHARACTER and i need
>some information on him.  I would like as much as i can get from
>you guys so poor it on.  Things i definetaly need:

[...]

>	8.) Mind-set.  i.e  How he deals with situations.
>	    a.) Like how does he handle stress   

He fondles the 'horgon' in his cabin. (see "Captain's Holiday")

>	    b.) Relationships with other officers
>	    c.) Personall conflicts

Calls a conference.

>	    d.) All that other good stuff too   :-)
>	9.) Picards dicsiplinary procedures

 Forces naughty crew members to watch "Cost of Living" while strapped to
a sickbay diagnostic bed.

>       10.) How he deals with other civilizations.

Sermonizes them to death, breaks the Prime Directive anyway, and goes
off to have a really hot cup of earl grey tea.

>Feel free to add in any infomation that you think might make a good
>report on him.  I'll listen to anything, but please keep it factual
>and if opinions are include please mark them as so.


These are mostly opinions.

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