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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:16:10 -0600
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From:         Rich Molettiere <richm@CWIS.UNOMAHA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: APPLE TALK AND ETHERNET ON NW 3.11

EtherTalk is Apple's implementation of ethernet.  You need to install
the ethertalk "driver" on your Mac.  You should have received a disk
with the Mac ethernet board.

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On Thu, 19 Nov 1992 nmehanian@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU wrote:

> HI,
>    I'M TRYING TO START THE MAC-COMPAQ PROJECT AND I NEED TO CONNECT
> 3 COMPAQS AND 5 MACS ON THIS ETHERNET NOVELL NETWORK. I'VE GOT NETWARE 3.01
> FOR MACINTOSH AND I DO HAVE ETHERNET NIC'S FOR THE MACS. DO I NEED ETHERTALK
> (WHAT IS IT ACTUALLY?) OR ANY GATEWAY BETWEEN MACS AND COMPAQS OR AN ETHERNET
>  CABLE WOULD ALL I WOULD NEED?
>
> MAY I BE ABLE TO HAVE AN APPLETALK CONNECTION RUNNING BETWEEN MACS AND
> GATEWAY THAT TO THE COMPAQS ETHERNET TOPOLOGY?
>
> PLEASE LET ME KNOW
> THANKS
> NADER MEHANIAN
> NMEHANIAN@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:29:22 EST
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From:         SSJACK@ECUVM1.BITNET
Subject:      PS/2 95 2nd Parallel Port

I've heard that there are problems with installing and using a 2nd
parallel port (LPT2) in a Netware 3.11 fileserver for local printing.
Can anyone verify this?

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Jack E. McCoy                                     SSJACK@ECUVM1.BITNET
Systems Programmer                                 (919) 757 - 6401
East Carolina University                          Greenville, NC 27858
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Subject: NW3.11 Pserver problem
From: ksmith@cabell.vcu.edu (Kenneth O. Smith)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:02:29 GMT
Organization: Virginia Commonwealth University


I'm trying to install a print server on a newly installed version
3.11 server.  When ever I tried to load pserver.nlm or pserver.exe
it asks me for a password of the server.  I was login'd in as
supervisor, and I tired my password and I was denied access.  I don't
remember set a password for the server.... I'm clueless .... if
you got clue please reply!


Dumbfounded,
         Ken Smith
         ksmith@cabell.vcu.edu
         kosmith@ruby.vcu.edu
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From: pjinkila@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca (Paul Inkila)
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Subject: Re: Cheyanne's Arcserve - any one out there using it ?
Date: 20 Nov 1992 20:32:50 GMT
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Organization: Lakehead University, Thunder Bay, Ont., Canada

I've also tried the 'live trial' version of Arcserve. (the VAP for Netware 2.2)
I had similar flaky results getting it to work with a 4mm Archive Python.
It seems like it would do everything I want.....if it would just work with my
tape drive!

Paul Inkila
Lakehead University
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From: kxg8272@usl.edu (Guruswamy Karthikeyan)
Subject: Re: Program to check login/attach status
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:22:12 GMT

In article <Nov.20.17.34.57.1992.7357@dorm.rutgers.edu> medici@dorm.rutgers.edu (Mark Medici) writes:
>kkimchio@trantor.dso.gov.sg (Kwa Kim Chiong) writes:
>
>>We are looking for a program that will check whether the user is
>>logged on or 	attached to a server. We want to run this program in a
>>batch file before	executing other program. The program should
>>preferably return an errorlevel 	code.
>

The simplest way to know if you've logged in is writing a small program
in DEBUG or using Netware C-library call CreateSemaphore. This will fail
if you are not logged to any server. 

>
>How about just looking to see if a NetWare public utility is where it
>should be if you're logged-in.  For example if you set-up SYS:PUBLIC
>as the first mapped search drive, you can do (what I do):
>
>  @echo off
>  :ChkNet
>    if exist z:logout.exe goto NetOk
>  :NoNet
>    echo ^G
>    echo Sorry, you must login to the network server before
>    echo you can access this program.  To login, make drive
>    echo F: your defuault drive (you should see the F:\LOGIN>
>    echo prompt) and type LOGIN.
>    echo.
>    pause
>    goto Return
>  :NetOk
>    set_up
>    run_prog
>    clean_up
>  :Return
>
>This works fine for me.  -- 
>_________________________________________________________________________
>RUCS     | Mark A. Medici, Systems Programmer III, User Services Division
>User     | Rutgers University Computing Services, New Brunswick, NJ 08903
>Services | [medici@gandalf.rutgers.edu]                    [908-932-2412]

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Organization: Proteon, Inc., Westborough, MA  01581  [(508)898-2800]
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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:17:00 EST
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From:         Fund@RELAY.PROTEON.COM
Subject:      Re: Ask for suggestion

>I need to link 4 PC's.  The four are storing and displaying the same data base.
>Local retailer offered to me the Ethernet (16 bits) boards for $89 and the wire
>50 cents a foot.  I have licensed copy of Novell 3.11.

>I can't afford to pay installation.  Can I do it myself?
>Any suggestions will be appreciated.

   Sounds to me that you are going to have to do it yourself.  NW 3.11 is fairly
   easy to install.  Read the instllation manual and follow the quick reference
   card and you should be in pretty good shape.

   Since you are using ethernet.  Make sure you have two terminators, one
   for each end of the cable. Ground one of the terminators.

   The cards are probably NE2000 clones so workstation drivers should not be
   a problem.  If not, make sure the dealer gives you a copy of the drivers
   as well.  Same thing goes for the server .LAN driver.

   Most folks on the list will be more than willing to help if you are stumped.

     Glenn Fund                           Internet:   Fund@Relay.proteon.com
     Principal Research Specialist        CompuServe: 75170,1060
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:01:38 CDT
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From:         James Ford <JFORD@SEEBECK.UA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Passing a Password: The Conclusion

>    I picked it up via FTP from a Simtel mirror site (oak.oakland.edu)--in
>    the msdos/keyboard directory.  Look for stuf130.zip.

I can make it available via anonymous FTP on risc if you (Jeremy) would toss
it on Seebeck.
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James Ford - Consultant II, Seebeck Computer Center
             jford@seebeck.ua.edu, jford@risc.ua.edu
             The University of Alabama (in Tuscaloosa, Alabama)
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:46:22 EST
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From:         FUAD@ACAD.SUFFOLK.EDU
Subject:      486/50 EISA Machines

Greetings to ALL!!

   I am still having difficulties with a Northgate 486/50 EISA server to
load Cableton's E2110 nic card driver through the autoexec.ncf file.  I was
wondering if anyone out there have installed Cabletron's card on a Northgate
486/50 EISA server, and what kind of NIC cards are installed in them.

Thanks.

Fuad@suffolk.edu
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From:         Brian Comin <bbc@DSI.BC.CA>
Subject:      Surf. Test Fails on 2G Drive! (fwd)

 I have 3 Fujitsu M2652SA 2 Gig drives we are adding to our Novell 3.11
 servers.  We are using the Adaptec 1742 Controllers (Ones that work) on an AMI
 Enterprise II Motherboard.  I can format the drives, partition them, mount
 them and load data on them but if I try and run a Surface test I get
 "Test Type: FAILED" after a few minutes of testing.  The drive specs are as
 follows: Heads 20, Cylinders 1944  5400 RPM.  Any insight into this problem
 would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks in advance,

 Brian Comin
 Dynapro Systems Inc.
 bbc@dsi.bc.ca
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From:         George Mansoor <GMANSOOR@BAFFAIRS.CSUN.EDU>
Subject:      Computer Literacy Survey

Has anyone prepared a computer literacy survey of any sort?  I am interested
in surveying the users at my campus to see what level of understanding is
out there.

Thanks

George

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:23:33 -0600
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: General Questions

>Hi netfolks,
>Maybe some of you can answer Netware 4.0 questions:
>1. When is Netware 4.0 due for shipping?
        Nobody knows. Winter/Spring is our best guess.
>2. What will an upgarde from NW 3.1 to NW 4.0 will cost?
        Depends on your arrangements with Novell, so contact your
Novell representative.
>3. Will there be any exams for recertification of CNEs?
        I dunno, but more than likely yes a couple times over.
>4. What are new features of NW 4.0? (I know about disk compression,
>but what else?)
        Far too many to mention here. It's a different ball game this
time. Disk compression, though a personal project of Drew Major, is
but a drop in a very large bucket of new features. I happen to think
it will be an excellent addition, and it is cleverly designed to not
impact server performance (as Drew explained it in Dallas last month).
NW 4 != (NW 3.11 + (bells & whistles));. Many sites may be satisfied
staying with NW 2.2 or 3.11 (and follow-ons to them), and for solid
reasons.
>I also thinking about attending NETWORLD 93. Does anyone out there
>know if there is an admission charge? (or basically once you are
        Yes, plan on spending. Tutorials are extra cost. Food is optional.
Sometimes vendors give fee admission tickets to the exhibits.
>registered, the only cost is travel and hotel)
>
>Thanks
>JBLUMENF@SSW02.AB.UMD.EDU
        Joe D.
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:21:23 CST
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From:         "Derek L. Bell" <rp6dlb@TEXACO.COM>
Subject: Re: using barrels to add loop to thinnet

Thinnet has a 30 station limit on a single segment. 600' is supposed to be the
 limit for distance but I have gone as far as 1000' without probs.

Derek
rp6dlb@texaco.com
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From: chad.w.german.1@nd.edu (Chad W. German)
Subject: Help --- 3COM EtherLinkII question
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:20:17 GMT

I have a 3COM Etherlink II/16 TP card that I'm installing into a IBM mod 30/
286..... The PC's only other card is for a 5.25 floppy drive.....  I have 
the Crynwr packet driver 3c503 that is dated 3/14/92..... Is this the most 
current driver so you can disable the ram addressing on the card???? I 
believe that is my problem......  I can use I/O = 280 but setting a ram 
addressing of any type available on the card will cause the machine either 
to lock up on boot up or give me a 162 error.... When I get the 162 error 
when trying to load the packet driver at different ram addresses I will get 
"conflicting or bad memory address" or I will get a line a garbage on the 
screen before the packet driver gives me the ethernet address of the NIC.

Help
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:36:41 EST
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From:         Mert Nickerson <Merton@PORTLAND.MAINE.EDU>
Subject: Printing to a Novell queue using the /job= option (long post)

We have an IBM 4019 printer being serviced by a Novell queue. We have
the PostScript option installed and hve used the autoswitch featue to
print in IBM PPDS, HP, or PostScript mode with gtreat success under DOS
for a long time. All we did was set up Novell print jobs to send the
appropriate setup strings ahead of the print file. I use a batch file to
CAPTURE LPT3 (with the appropriate /JOB= statement) to the postscript
queue.

Now the problem.
Under OS/2 this works fine under Private DOS sessions but I can not get
it to function under global DOS sessions or from an OS/2 session.

While playing with this, I have discovered what I consider to be a bug
in the Netware Requestor. We have many servers directly on the backbone.
When I boot OS/2 and log onto Novell from the NetWare Tools menu I often
(almost always) attach to a server that I do not want to login to (no.
problem yet). I use a saved setting file and login to the appropriate
server. Now comes the problem. From an OS/2 prompt I try to issue the
Novell CAPTURE command and get a message telling me that the print job
does not exist. After playing with this for quite a while I doscovered
that I am still attached to the original server that responed to the
initial GetNearestServer request. Ok. So, all I do is issue the Novell
LOGOUT servername command. Sure enough, I can now re-issue the CAPTURE
command and it finds the job! However, the printer is not switched
to PostScript mode when I send a file to the printer. I thought OK, I
will try recreating the print job using the OS/2 PRINTCON.EXE. Guess
what! PRINTCON comlains that the connection to my "primary server"
is no longer valid. Now, under DOS, your primary server is the server
that houses your current directory. Under OS/2 it appears that your
primary server is the server you initially attach to even if you never
log into that server. This has to be a bug! Other proplems related
to Novell printing and the capture command include things like other
options not working (/NoBanner /NoTabs /NoFormFeed etc.)

I really like OS/2 and the true mutitasking, multiprotocol support;
concurrent multiple TCP/IP sessions, Novell connectivity, etc.) but the
printing problems are a real big problem for us. I hope that whoever is
responsible for the Novell Requestor (Novell or IBM) is listning.
Actually, I would not be unhappy to find that I am doing something really
stupid and some guru can put me on the right track.
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 16 Nov 1992 17:30:03 EST
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Subject: supressing printer name

Hi, we have an appletalk network with a HP3Si printer and we are
running novell 3.11 we would like all of our macintosh machines to
print through a novell queue. We have successfully published a queue
for them to use, but the problem is we have not supressed the HP3Si from
publishing its own name. Is there a way to do this? That is stop the HP3Si
from publishing its own name.

any input would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
Steve Bennett
University of Maine
IO70961@maine.maine.edu
Steve_Bennett@knxmail.umeres.maine.edu
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From: Ken.Weiss@MED.UMICH.EDU (Ken Weiss)
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Subject: Re: Passing A Password
Date: 17 Nov 92 02:26:57 GMT
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 Reply to:     RE>>Passing A Password
I use piping of passwords all the time.  I make a text file on my local hard
drive which contains the password and a carrige return(You have to have the
carrige return or the login program will wait for you to press enter).  Then I
simply do a

f:\login\login username < c:\path\textfilename

and it works just fine.

However, I really don't recomend this for someone with sensitive data, high
levels of access, etc...  It is not very security conscious but it works.

We are running a 3.11 server and version 3.65 of login.

Hope this helps,
Ken

Ken Weiss
Computer Systems Consultant
The University of Michigan
ken.weiss@med.umich.edu

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Date: 11-17-92  5:36 AM
To: Weiss, Ken
From: Novell LAN Interest Group

Re:  Passing A Password
Jeremy Butler <jbutler@EDU.UA.BAMANET.CCMAIL> asks:

>    I've tried using DOS piping commands ("|" and "<") but I can't get them
>    to work on network drives.  E.g., the commands
>
>    ECHO password | LOGIN username       and
>
>    LOGIN username < password.txt     [password.txt contains the password]

I know you can pipe passwords into the password changing program SETPASS
but is your problem with login the fact that you have no rights in
your current directory (f:\login ?) in order to create the temporary
file for the pipe?

Phil Brady
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:08:41 EDT
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From:         Scott Fenstermacher <SCOTT@ENGE1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Running Novell on a sun

This was passed to me by a Sun user and I too would like to know if such a
beast exists. If so is there a part that allows IPX packets to be passed
through a sun server?

> I am in the beginning of investigating the possibility of running
> Novell Netware on Sun Unix workstation.  Can anyone give me the
> answer of following questions?
>
>  a. Novell has announced this product, how mature of thie
>     product is? How many application can run under this
>     Novell Netware on Sun server?
>  b. Which Novell server should be selected? PC 486 or Sun
>     Sparc from the price and the performance point of view.
>  c. Does Sun have any plan for this Novell Netware connectivity
>     to Unix server? If there is, what is the current status?
>  d. Does one get more benefits if the Sun server is chosen
>     for Netware?
>
> If anyone has installed this Sun server for Netware software and has
> any other comments, please inform me also. Thanks for your kind
> assitance.


Scott

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 11:44:57 CST
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From:         Jeremy Butler <jbutler@CCMAIL.BAMANET.UA.EDU>
Subject: Passing a Password: The Conclusion

    Thanks to one and all that replied to my request for info on passing a
    password to the LOGIN command.  I seem to have found a satisfactory
    solution.

    Faithful readers will recall that I could not get the DOS pipe to work
    (i.e., ECHO password|LOGIN username) because the pipe would not
    function on a >network< drive.  Apparently, one has to have access to a
    local drive for the temp file in this particular situation.

    So, I fell back on a suggestion made by Shane Merritt (thanks, Shane!)
    to resort to a keyboard buffer stuffer called STUFFIT (STACKEY will
    also work, but STUFFIT is >freeware<).  With STUFFIT one can put both
    the LOGIN command and the password in the buffer with a single command:

    STUFFIT " " +1 13 "LOGIN username" 13 +2 P8,0,5,"word: " +1 "password"

    When LOGIN takes over control, the password is already waiting there in
    the buffer, eager to please.  The cool thing is, it doesn't just blurt
    out the password, it >waits< patiently, calmly for the "Enter your
    password: " prompt.  If the user does something to screw up LOGIN and
    that prompt does not appear on the screen, then the password is never
    echoed to the screen itself.

    It's the "P8,0,5,"word: "" part of the command line that does all
    this waiting business.  I won't go into the details, but STUFFIT
    permits you to specify several things about how the wait works.

    So, I'm going to try out this solution to my problem for a while.  I've
    put the STUFFIT command line in a compiled BASIC program and
    STUFFIT.EXE is in the f:\login directory.

    Anybody see any holes in this set-up?

    Thanks for all the advice...

    --Jeremy

| Jeremy Butler                                                          |
| Associate Professor                      JBUTLER@CCMAIL.BAMANET.UA.EDU |
| Telecommunication & Film Dept * The University of Alabama * Tuscaloosa |
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