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From: oahvenla@niksula.hut.fi (Osma Ahvenlampi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Finally got to play with an A4000
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:25:49 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

In article <35766@cbmvax.commodore.com> mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz) writes:
   >	One bad thing I noticed:  when flipping screens between interlaced
   >and non-interlaced screens (pressing Left-Amiga-M), the A1960 monitor image
   >made a big and awful-looking "jump" as it switched resolutions.  I don't
   >know whether the A1960 was at fault or not.

   This only happens when the scan rates do not match and the monitor needs to
   resync to a different scan rate.  Some monitors do it faster and some do it
   slower.  Some show a jump, some nicely go blank.  If you don't switch scan
   rates you will not have this problem.

This reminds me: What if you drag down a 15KHz screen and behind it is a 31KHz
screen? It may be (probably is) an old issue, but I'm not too familiar even
with A3000... I would imagine it will at least partly trash your display, but
will it damage the monitor? Is there a safeguard against this in the OS?
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From: Tad_felix_Bilby@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: 2.05 installation question
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 92 09:01:40 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

To kill the requester that says close all windows you have 2 alternatives.
	1. Run all programs that display startup messages to the >nil:
	   device.
	2. Don't change the screen size to somthing other than 640x200
	   via preferences.
I do part 1 and have no problems with an overscan WB screen.
		felix
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: usatoday@daimi.aau.dk (Peter Dalsgaard)
Subject: How to play .aiff sound files ????
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 13:00:45 GMT

Hi guys !!

the subject line pretty much tells the story !!!

Answers are greatly appreciated

Peter

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From: chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000
Date: 8 Oct 92 07:38:15 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

I'm continuing to cross post this, so that anyone that's read mr. barret's
wonderful speach won't be mis-informed.

Nothing is stopping you from buying the ZorroII Display enhancer C= currently
sells.  This should work fine on a 4000 as much as 2000. 

Marc's comment that there isn't a display enhancer available is wrong.  (as
usual) 

Marc's comment that the IDE drive in the 4000 is slower is also wrong, as has
been posted here by diskspeed performance tests, it's about the same, if not
faster than the stock 3000's HD and SCSI.

The only thing lacking in HD performance is it's ability to add more devices.

While Marc does seem to be correct that you need a 15khz monitor, he says that
the C= Monitor is the only one that supports this.  This is also wrong, In a
recent tour through computer shopper i found dozens of them, including names
such as Nanao, Sony, Mitsubishi, NEC and others..

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From: Steve@donald.demon.co.uk (Steve Gilbert)
X-Mailer: //\\miga Electronic Mail (AmiElm 1.11)
Organization: Private Internet/Usenet node.
Reply-To: steve@donald.demon.co.uk
Subject: Good C Programming book required
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 13:57:51 +0000

Can anyone recommend a good book on C programming for the Amiga? Not too
basic, but not over technical. I can't seem to find any in the computer shops
around here.

Regards,

Steve.
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From: nwickham@nyx.cs.du.edu (Neal Wickham)
Subject: Re: Finally got to play with an A4000
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Reply-To: nwickham@nyx.UUCP (Neal Wickham)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 17:07:16 GMT

In article <54564@dime.cs.umass.edu> barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:
>
>	I had a chance to play with an A4000 for about an hour today.
>I won't repeat what other people have said about it, but I did notice
>some interesting things.
>
>	The dealer displayed some 24-bit pictures using AdPro, and they
>looked stunning.  I assume they were converted to 8-bit HAM mode.  There
>was no fringing I could see; they looked photo-quality.

I saw one this week too.  The one thing I noticed that hasn't been mentioned
is that regular HAM looks good in hi-res mode.  I sat and converted images 
with AdPro and compared them.  The HAM8 certainly looks as good as my 
roomate's 24-bit Mac images, and regular HAM in hi-res could be mistaken
for 24-bit color with some images.  It looked much better than dithered
256 color images even with some fringing IMHO.  And I didn't even try 
regular HAM in super-hi-res mode where the high horizontal resolution may
have reduced the fringing to almost nil.  I couldn't see any fringing in
HAM8.  

And, I still think these HAM modes are important in that HAM acts like
very fast file compression.  With few exceptions, I can't see why anyone
would want 24-bit over HAM8.  I hope the software is quick to take 
advantage of the AGA gfx.  It seems like they will be able to do some nice
things with it. ...lots of gfx and animations.  What C= really neads is
CD-ROM with the AGA.


                                     NCW
From: tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: ASDG VD0: device (or similar) under ADOS RELEASE 2.05
Date: 12 Oct 1992 23:16:57 -0400
Organization: P.L.T.S., North Plainfield, New Jersey, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: plts.uucp

In <67130@cup.portal.com> pk-asdg@cup.portal.com (Perry S Kivolowitz) writes:

>You just reminded me of something.

>September 1992 means that ASDG VD0 is 5 (FIVE) years old. And someone
>reports that works under 2.05? Well, that's quite gratifying. I wrote
>it for version 1.2. And it worked on 1.1. 

>I haven;'t used it in years...but it's nice to know it is still being
>of help to the community.

I meant to post this a while ago:  Perry, you should tell them
about why you wrote it.  I remember when you revealed the program
at JAUG and you had a petty funny to go along with the program.

Tom

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From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Specification of A4000
Date: 11 Oct 92 02:21:32 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

rogeraw@dhhalden.no (ROGER ALLAN WAHLGREN) writes:

>In article <1992Oct8.100608.19974@alf.uib.no> erik@cmi.no (Erik Hansen) writes:
>>From: erik@cmi.no (Erik Hansen)
>>Subject: Specification of A4000
>>Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 10:06:08 GMT
>>I see the Amiga 4000 mentioned on the net, what is
>>the detailed specifications of this computer system,
>>especially with reference to multimedia use? 
>> 
>>Erik M. Hansen
>>Christian Michelsen Research a/s
>>erik@cmr.no


>For multimedia:

>good graphics but BAD sound.

Just curious (perhaps this should belong to c.s.a.advocacy...), which
"multimedia" computer would you consider as having "good" sound??

Mac?? IBM MPC?? NeXT (is NeXT a "multimedia" machine??)???

:)
Kelvin
e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu
From: chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: NEW AMIGA OS NEEDS PM, VM, AND JOB CONTROL
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:05:03 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

AmigaOS is NOT UNIX! (ANU?)... What you want is the speed of AmigaDos with the
powers uf Unix, your not going to get it... since the powers of unix make the
speed of AmigaDos unatainable.

you can buy VM, it slows down the machine of course, but you can buy it..

Memory Protection would totally kill the flexibility of the OS.

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From: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: How to "leave out" the trashcan
Summary: It's in there!
Keywords: trashcan documentation manual
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:33:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbmvax.35921
Reply-To: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Distribution: na
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <67742@cup.portal.com> DonD@cup.portal.com (Don Robert DeCosta) writes:

[...discussions about monkeying with Trashcan deleted...]

>	
>Second:	Damn it... is this stuff in USER documentation? ENVPREFS and standard
>	tooltypes and all this stuff seems to be really usefull but I don't 
>	see it documented!

Where are you looking?  Admittedly our pre-2.0 docs left something to be
desired in many areas, but the proper use of the Trashcan (including not
being able to use Leave Out on it), using Tool Types, the Preferences system,
etc. are documented in current user manuals.  

Rest assured that we are continuing to work at making our future docs clearer 
and more thorough.

>
>Don DeCosta           |The nice thing about sanity is|  VM/Nomad2
>DonD@cup.portal.com   |you can lose it more than once|  Amiga/Imagine

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From: chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000
Date: 10 Oct 92 15:05:02 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>>Do not forget it is 4x as fast...
>
>   To improve the usability of the increased color.  But according to some
>people, it still is not quite fast enough.  Some have said that the 640x400
>non-interlaced 256-color mode is slower than the 16-color mode on the A3000.
>This would make it unusable, IMO.

I just saw the 4000 at one of my local dealers.. 256 color is *NOT* slower
than 16 color on a 3000.  It's roughly the same in some ways, in others it's
better.  considering that multi-view seems to use the interleaved blittering
there's no visible bitmap scroll.
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:08:00 EDT
From: <DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000

In article <copes.718604729@marsh>, copes@cs.curtin.edu.au (Simon Cope) says:

>barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:

>Soft promotion if far superior to the old deinterlacer.  C= have saved you
>having to reach around behind your machine to switch of the deinterlacer every
>time you play a fast game or use a 24khz graphics mode.

Point of clarification: the commodore flicker fixer goes into a scan-double
mode for non-interlaced displays (games); there is no ghosting or other
artifacts introduced. I believe it also removes itself automatically for
non-15Khz displays.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
Subject: Re: wb 2.05?
Keywords: really?
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 18:41:39 GMT

rghester@eos.ncsu.edu (Rodney Hester) writes:

> 2.05 includes a new SetPatch (with _many_ changes...again, if you don't have
                                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 2.05, GET IT!), a new FastFileSystem for 1.3 FFS cross-compatibility, and a
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Wouldn't it be better to get 2.1 instead?

>           //       Rodney Hester - rghester@eos.ncsu.edu         //
>         \X/          -=[ In Stereo Where Available ]=-         \X/

-Eyvind

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From: raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez | 802-36-4453)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Neat amiga advertisements (English usage)
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:28:29 GMT
Organization: UPR-Mayaguez--ASEL Lab

In article <Aeqs4b200hsBRERkdS@cs.cmu.edu>, Michael Witbrock <mjw+@cs.cmu.edu> writes:
[stuff deleted]

|> Anyway,  enough of that, I'll take a stab at answering a question from
|> one of our readers, a Sr Ricardo Hernandez of Hope Arkansas (totally
|> unsubstantiated geographic claim) who asks:

  Whoa!  What was that?  of Hope Arkansas?  Is this another ASEQ (Another
Slang English Quote) that I don't understand or what? Hope Arkansas...
I wonder what you meant.  

[more deleted]
|> > |> The MPC Version
|> > |> of Multimedia May Cost More Than Ours.  But It's Harder To Use And Requires
|> > |> More Equiptment."  Heh heh, kick gates around yeah.  I Love it! 

[more stuff deleted]

|> I'm afraid I don't have a decent Spanish grammar to hand, so I won't try
|> to render the ad into that language, but perhaps someone would like to
|> give it a try. I will however, risk the ridicle of the world, and try it
|> in french....ahem....
|> 
|> bien que le Version OPM de Multimedia cout plus cher que le notre, il
|> est plus complique, et a besion d'equipments suplimentaires.
|>
   Ok, I'll give it a try in Spanish:
   
   La Versi'on MPC de Multimedios Podra Costar M'as Que la Nuestra.  Pero Es M'as Dif'icil de Usar
   Y Requiere M'as Equipo.

   Since this is more or less a literal transaltion, I don't know if all the ironic gramatical
   terms that you talked about still hold.  Sounds like it, but maybe not.  Please note that
   all the " ' " before those vowels mean an accent over the vowel.
  
   Although I don't know French, I could understand more or less what you said.

   French     Spanish

    bien        bien
    que          que
     le           la
    Version       Version
    Multimedia    Multimedios
    cout          cuesta
    que le notre  que la nuestra
    il est plus complique    es mas complicada
    d'equipments   de equipos
    suplimentaires  suplementarios

   Sorry for all the wasted bandwidth!

|> Horrid, wasn't it, perhaps a real French person will try, using the
|> (what I believe to be a correct ) analysis of the English ad as a guide,
|> if necessary. I wonder how many languages the ad would work in, because
|> it's certainly a very good ad in English.

  I guess it works in Spanish too.  

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: bmccnnll@unix1.tcd.ie (Barry McConnell)
Subject: Re: A4000 and scan-lines, mode promotion, flicker 
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:38:01 GMT

In <1992Oct7.063412.6947@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:

>   Most of the A4000 screens will have scan-lines.

Oh heck...

>But if a program tries to open a screen in a standard mode, you
>will get all of the scanlines and flicker just as if the screen were being
>opened on an Amiga 500.

What is "mode promotion"? I thought that meant that anything opening PAL
Hi-Res-Laced via Intuition would end up with a flicker-free display? Does
this mean that *every* program that opens an interlace screen, without the
option to select your desired screenmode (like Term), will flicker?

Sh*t. I _was_ considering buying one, but I'm now having second thoughts.
Although I suppose someone will quickly come up with a utility to force all
flickering screens into flicker-free, either via DblPAL or Productivity...

Barry.
From: FELIX-ONE@cup.portal.com (Dan A Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: is ab20 archive still availible?
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 18:13:50 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)


>   I was just wondering if anyone knew where to find the frozen ab20archive..
>know that wuarchive used to have it...but it seems tohave disappeared..Does

I have a CDRom with it on it, from WalnutCreek   1 800-786-9907
other than that, I can't help.
dan
From: fgd3@nifty.UUCP (Fabbian G. Dufoe, III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: AmigaDOS commands at an ftp site?
Distribution: world
Date: 9 Oct 92 12:13:32 EDT
Organization: Fabbian G. Dufoe, III

In article <1992Oct8.025038.21710@resumix.portal.com> chetc@resumix.portal.com (Chester L. Cuaresma) writes:
>Subject says it all.  The Amiga manuals that came with my recently
>bought A1000 doesn't say jack about cli commands.  Did somebody
>compile a list of commands and what they do in a file and post it
>at an ftp site?

   The AmigaDOS Manual from Bantam Books covers the CLI commands.  You want
the third edition.

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From: s37732v@lk-hp-16.hut.fi (Markus Juhani Aalto)
Subject: Re: Finally got to play with an A4000
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:25:47 GMT

In article <35766@cbmvax.commodore.com> mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz) writes:

[lots of text deleted here]

   >
   >	I found some unidentifiable files in the devs:DataTypes drawer.
   >They had names like ILBM, 8SVX, and AmigaGuide, and their default Workbench
   >tool is c:AddDataTypes.  Is this some new way to recognize certain types of
   >files?  Any more details on it?

   The new tool called MultiView uses a new technology we have called DataTypes.
   Basically, if a data type is defined for a file format, MutliView will be
   able to display it.  For example, MultiView will display ASCII files, ASCII
   files with ANSI escape sequences (underline, bold, etc), AmigaGuide files
   with full AmigaGuide/hypertext support, IFF-ILBM files (in windows or screens)
   and IFF-8SVX files.  Others are sure to come (we have an example for loading
   GIF and BMP files) and any program/utility which uses datatypes will magically
   get this new feature.


Is this new datatype format going to be published in future? So that
evevryone could make new datatypes. Or is this Commodore only or
developer only material?


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
Subject: Re: Finally got to play with an A4000
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 04:28:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.101923.29145@klaava.Helsinki.FI> vmkiili@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Ville-Matti Kiili) writes:
>barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>:    Basically what I've been saying.  The A3000 still has several advantages
>: over the A4000: more flexibility in choosing a monitor, built-in SCSI, and
>: higher non-interlaced resolutions.  It's quite a bit cheaper now, too.
>
>More flexibility in choosing a monitor? I don't think so. If you want to
>use SuperHires, you need 15kHz monitor anyway, because Amber in A3000
>can't handle it properly.

   How useful is Super HiRes on an A3000 anyway?  It is dog slow even with
one bitplane, limited to two bitplanes at the most, and a 64-color palette.
Besides, this is more than made up for by the fact that on an A3000 
absolutely EVERYTHING that will run on the system can be promoted to 31Khz,
with no exceptions.

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From: MLO@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (LORETI, Maurizio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for Lha for Unix
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:15:17 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

> Subject: Looking for Lha for Unix

Try grind.isca.uiowa.edu in /unix/somewhere ...

From Italy,     ciao          Maurizio
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