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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 10:37:40 -0500
From:         vanpatte@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      L2 phonology

A student here at the University of Illinois is writing a paper and sent me
the following question. I pass it on to the network in the hopes that I can
direct some information her way. (I confess my ignorance of L2 phonology
research, mea culpa.)

Here is the student's query.
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     I am currently writing a paper on vowel deletion processes in a
bilingual variety of Spanish. There semms to be a complete 'transfer'
of vowel duration patterns (and even rythm) from Quechua to Spanish.
I was wondering of any studies that treat either Second or First Language
(Phonologic) Acquisition of Spanish. The only title I could come up
with is:

     Major, R. 1986. The ontogeny model: evidence from L2 acquisition
     of Spanish r. Language Learning 36:453-405

On the other hand, could you reccomend something that represents the
'state of the art' in Acquisition of Phonology?  The following two
books seem the most promising, but I do not know:

     James, A. 1989. Acquisition of Second Language Phonology.
     _________ and J. Leather, eds. Sound Patterns in Second
     Language Phonology. Tubingen:Gunter Narr Verlag.

----------------------------------------------------
Thanks in advance for any responses.

_______________________________________________
Bill VanPatten
Spanish, Italian and Portuguese
The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
vanpatte@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
(send email for mailing address)
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:21:55 -0600
From:         B1ROSS@CUDNVR.DENVER.COLORADO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Lydia White Reference: Incomprehensible input

Greetings!
        I have been trying to track down a copy of Lydia White's "Against
Comprehensible Input" from Applied Linguistics 9: 95-109.  Do you know where
or how I can get a copy.  None of the resources I've checked have one.  I am
in Denver, CO at the University of Colorado.  Thank you.  Bonnie Ross
B1ross
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From:         Barb <ENGBLK@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      subscribing

I am very interested in joining this network--how do I go about it?
                                                   Barb Kennedy
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 10:37:57 -0500
From:         vanpatte@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      Anonymous query

Having been in a department of "frequently taught" language for some time
now and having observed similar departments across the country, I am not at
all sanguine about foreign language departments understanding anything
about SLA. First, the sociology of the departments is such that usually
non-linguistics and certainly non-SLA types tend to run things, i.e. wind
up as heads and chairs of departments. In foreign languages, departments
are by and large literature departments.  Getting colleagues in literature
to understand what SLA requires more work than Barbara Streisand could
perform on Nick Nolte in Prince of Tides. (To be sure, there are some
literature types out there who are different, but they are the minority.)
Secondly, there are LINGUISTS in these very same departments who deny that
SLA has anything to do with linguistics or that it should be viewed as
such. A few linguists see the connections and actually seek interaction
with SLA types, but many are still of the frame of mind that linguistics
does not entail SLA.  Thirdly, there is no denying that in foreign
languages, SLA types often wind up doing methodology oriented duties in the
department, e.g. training teaching assistants, working with student
teachers, teaching "The Methods Course" and so on. Thus, for many
departments, SLA and Language Teaching are one and the same thing. After
seven years at the U of I, I think that maybe a handful of my colleagues in
the department understand what I do (thanks to a head who has championed
diversity in our department). The others may regard me highly, but not
because of my research.

In my mind, the only way to straighten this out is to either (1) break away
from "language" departments and/or (2) disassociate ourselves from language
teaching. I can't see myself doing the latter but at times the first seems
very appealing.

Well, I've rambled on enough. All this to say that if those of us in the
more frequently taught languages have difficulty with our departments, I
can only imagine what difficulties people like Yoshi have. (Yoshi, that was
you who sent the original query, no?)  It will be at least one more
academic generation that needs to pass before SLA will assume some stature
in language departments. . .

_______________________________________________
Bill VanPatten
Spanish, Italian and Portuguese
The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
vanpatte@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
(send email for mailing address)
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:32:25 -0600
From:         B1ROSS@CUDNVR.DENVER.COLORADO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Lydia White Reference: Incomprehensible input

Thank you
I will.
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Your message about a Spanish language teaching program in Costa Rica was just
forwarded to me.  My husband is a professor at the University of Costa Rica
-- he is the Director of the Cognitive Science Program within the Computer
Science Dept.  You may want to contact him, as he can probably give you the
names and addresses of faculty there that might be interested in such a
program.  His name is Manuel Arce Arenales, and his e-mail address is
MAARCE@UCRVM2.bitnet.  The other person that comes to mind is Gianina Umagna
in the English Dept.  She may be chair, but I'm not sure -- in fact, I'm
uncertain even as to the spelling of her name -- but I do know that she is
extremely nice, intelligent, and active in building new programs for her
students.  Good luck.
   Melissa Axelrod
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:07:29 -0600
From:         B1ROSS@CUDNVR.DENVER.COLORADO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Anonymous query

I appreciate your dilemma.
I find similar confusion in my field of study.
Would you feel free in writing me directly?  I regret that I am not always
available to reply immediately, because I have so many other demands at
present and because I can only use email at sch.
Best Wishes.
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:08:00 EST
From:         SUSAN SOTILLO <SOTILLO@APOLLO.MONTCLAIR.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Lydia White Reference: Incomprehensible input

Ask someone at the U of Pa to e-mail you a copy.  They should have it at Van
Pelt (Penn's library) or at the Educational Linguistics library.  E-mail
Pica
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:54:14 -0400
From:         Barbara Freed <bf0u+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: L2 phonology

This is may not be exactly what you are looking for but the material is
intersting.  It relates to deletion in Puerto Rican Spanish from a
sociolinguistic point of view.  If this interests you, you might contact
Shana Poplack@acadvm1.uo. Her work is very interesting.

Barbara
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Lynda, stop by my office and I will give you as much information as I
can.  But your specific questions can be answered: Williamsberg VA
(college of william and mary) and March 8 - 13 with the 8 & ( being
preconference workshops, the 10th being software fair and the 11-13th
being the actual symposium.
Marc Siskin
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 08:33:32 CDT
From:         "(dennis muchisky)" <muchisky@UNLINFO.UNL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Attitudes towards NS and NNS accents
              "ENTAUROZ%CPHKVX.bitnet@KSUVM.KSU.EDU" at Oct 11, 92 9:43 pm

Here is one reference that might be of interest to you: "The
Discredited Speaker: Listener Reaction to ESL Discourse." It appeared
in College ESL, Volume 1 #2, December 1991.

Hope it helps.
Dennis Muchisky
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     I'd like to pose questions on the British secondary
school 'National Curriculum'. Is there anybody in the list who
could help me?

Rosalia Di Nisio
cired@ivemac.unive.it
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:57:51 -0500
From:         SASAKI@RHODES.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Anonymous query

It is a bit embarassing to say this, but I am the sender of the anonymous
message. I did not reveal my name because I felt too shy before the audience.
Anyhow, I am glad that there are people who share my concern.

Dr. Tarone suggests selling SLA as a branch of linguistics, but I doubt
that it is effective. What language programs are seeking is someone
who can teach language and something else. PhD in linguistics and literature
can each teach courses of their specialization, but there are only limited
chances for SLA researchers to teach a course in SLA. Basically, I have
never heard of an Asian Studies Department which offers its own course in
SLA. In short, an expertise in SLA is useless to their eyes.

I would appreciate it if you could share your insight with me.

Best wishes,

Y.S.
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     Has anybody worked intentionally and systematically on
vocational guidance in an educational rather than a merely
professional perspective? I'm interested in outlining a
process covering the whole schooling stage, therefore
incorporated in the curriculum both at a subject (foreign
language) and interdisciplinary level.
     Any suggestion would be welcome.

Rosalia Di Nisio
cired@ivemac.unive.it
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 06:04:00 CDT
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From:         "Fred Davidson, DEIL, UIUC" <DAVIDSON@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      Seminar in Edinburgh

SLART-L subscribers in Scotland and the UK, generally: SGML, or Standard
Generalized Markup Language, is an evolving standard of text tagging.
If your work relates to this, the announcement below might be of
interest.

-Fred Davidson, SLART-L Mgr (cross posted from SGML-L)


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Carrying Information in an Open Systems Environment

A seminar has been arranged for the afternoon of Wednesday, 11th
November, in Lecture Theatre C, James Clerk Maxwell Building, The King's
Buildings, Mayfield Road, Edinburgh.

The programme will be as follows:

2.00 - 3.00 pm: 'An overview of SGML and HyTime'
by Michael Popham (SGML Project, University of Exeter)

The Standard Generalized Markup Language (SGML - ISO 8879) can be used
for publishing in its broadest definition, ranging from single medium
conventional publishing to multi-media database publishing.  SGML
standardizes the application of generic coding and generalized markup
concepts; it provides a coherent and unambiguous syntax for describing
whatever a user chooses to identify within a document and is
independentof application, system, language or device.

The Hypermedia/Time-based Structuring Language (HyTime - ISO 10744) is
an application of SGML.  HyTime provides a standardized infrastructure
for the representation of "hyperdocuments" for integrated open
hypermedia applications.

This talk will provide an introduction to the concepts behind SGML, and
show how these have been taken up and developed in the creation of
HyTime.

3.00 - 3.30 pm: tea

3.30 - 3.50 pm: 'A review of information systems in an Open Systems
environment' by John Smith (Unix Help ITTI Project, EUCS)

3.50 - 4.10 pm: 'Carrying information in X400'
by Sandy Shaw (Communications & Computing Facilities, EUCS)

4.10 - 4.30 pm: 'Apple's QuickTime and associated multi-media tools'
by Toby Morris (User Support, EUCS).

There is no charge for the above. However, to ensure that you have a
seat, you should reserve a place by phoning the receptionist, Computing
Services, Main Library, on 031 650 3344.

Bob McGonigle <bobmcg@castle.ed.ac.uk>
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Date: 14 Oct 92 18:58:30 GMT
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Please ignore.
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Kere H. Pettersson   +46 60 157026   tomten@solace.hsh.se    Different.
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Please ignore this silly test posting.
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:57:12 GMT

test, test, test, test.
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:19:47 EDT
From:         Michael Sachs <V5289E@TEMPLEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Directory of Graduate Programs in Applied Sport Psychology

     DIRECTORY OF GRADUATE PROGRAMS IN APPLIED SPORT PSYCHOLOGY

     Association for the Advancement of Applied Sport Psychology
                            (AAASP)


    AAASP is very pleased to announce the availability of the third
edition of our "Directory of Graduate Programs in Applied Sport
Psychology."  The Directory is edited by Michael Sachs (Temple
University), Kevin Burke (Northern Illinois University), and Paul
Salitsky (Temple University).

     The third edition of the Directory provides much more information
than the second edition, with 248 pages of program information as well
as background information on applied sport psychology, careers in the
field, reading lists, etc.  Entries are available on more than 90
programs, with contact person, address information, faculty involved in
program, degrees offered, program 'numbers'/admissions information,
internship information, and general comments.  More than 150 Directories
per year for the past few years have been purchased and students
have found it to be very helpful in finding graduate programs and
starting their search for the best program to meet their needs.

     Cost of the Directory is $10.00 for AAASP members ($12.00 for
non-members), plus $3.00 for shipping and handling ($7.00 for overseas
orders).  Directories can be ordered from:

     Dr. Martha E. Ewing
     Publications Director, AAASP
     Dept. of Physical Education and Exercise Science,
     201 IM Sports Circle,
     Michigan State University,
     East Lansing, MI 48824
     (517) 353-4652

     Membership information for AAASP can be obtained from:

     Dr. Kevin Burke
     Secretary-Treasurer, AAASP
     Physical Education Department
     232 Anderson Hall
     Northern Illinois University
     DeKalb, IL 60115
     (815) 753-3921
     e-mail:  P20KLB1@NIU

    Please contact me directly at V5289E@TEMPLEVM if you want more
information about the Directory or about applied sport psychology.

     Thanks for your interest in graduate work in sport psychology.

     Sincerely, Michael Sachs
                Associate Professor, Temple University
                President, AAASP
                List Coordinator, SPORTPSY
From: JLSTUD00@UKCC.UKY.EDU (Jamie L. Studts)
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Date: 13 Oct 92 15:30:34 GMT
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Dr. Sachs,
          I know of one individual who is a counseling psychologist at The Ohio
  State Univeristy, Dr. Pam Highlen, she lists interests in sport psychology.
However, I do not know if she uses the 'label` sports psychologist.  I would be
 very interested in any results you find.

Jamie L. Studts   Department of Educational and Counseling Psychology
University of Kentucky   (606) 231-1754
From: V5289E@TEMPLEVM.BITNET (Michael Sachs)
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Subject: Sport Psychology Courses
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:13:54 GMT
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     We've had an interesting request that I pass along for your reply.
Stephen Buggie, of Presbyterian College in Clinton, South Carolina, taught
a sport psychology course as a special topics course a year or so ago.
Presbyterian is a four year liberal arts college.  In collaboration with
the physical education department, the psychology department put in a request
for a sport psychology course to be added to the roster of courses available
to be taught.  Despite this support they were turned down higher up (dean/
curriculum committee level).  One criticism was that 'sport psychology' was
seen as too narrow an area of study and a separate course in the area was
supposedly not warranted.

     To make a long story short, Dr. Buggie would greatly appreciate learning
of any similar courses being offered at other four year liberal arts colleges
(i.e., not universities like Temple or Florida State, etc.).  This information
would help support a resubmission of the application for course approval.  His
address is:

     Dr. Stephen Buggie
     Psychology Department
     Presbyterian College
     Clinton, SC 29325

     (803) 833-8337

     Please let SPORTPSY know as well if you have some information along
these lines.  Some/many of us would be interested.

     Thanks for your help and consideration.

     Sincerely, Michael Sachs, Temple University
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Date:         Sun, 11 Oct 1992 09:18:32 -0500
From:         vmcdonald@UIUC.EDU

Subscribe sportspsy Vernon McDonald
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Vernon McDonald                         vmcdonald@uiuc.edu
Department of Kinesiology,              office:  (217)-333-8561
University of Illinois,                 FAX:     (217)-244-7322
Urbana, IL, 61801                       Home:    (217)-344-1145
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:27:00 EDT
From:         Y39@PSUVM.BITNET
Subject:      Re: NEED research assistance on womens rugby teams

You may wis to contact Bruce Hale, Ph.D., here at Penn State university. His
background is in sport psychology and he is also the Rugby coach for our men's
team (we have a womens club sport team and I believe he has worked with them as
well). Bruce's address is: 328 Bouck Building, Penn State University,
University Park, PA, 16802 (814-8650407).

Sincerely,

David Yukelson, Ph.D., Sport Psychologist, Penn State University
From: V5289E@TEMPLEVM.BITNET (Michael Sachs)
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Subject: Re: Question
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:08:13 GMT
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On Wed, 14 Oct 1992 10:54:56 CDT Trent said:
>Michael,
>
>Most of the individuals I know (including Pam Highlen) who are Psychology
>Dept. Faculty are clear in their presentation of their credentials.  In other
>words they present as a counseling psychologist who has interest in sport or
>exercise psychology...etc.  Of course there may be many out there who
>do not take this approach and label themselves as "Sport Psychologists".
>I would be interested to know what you find out and what prompted the
>inquiry initially.
>
>Trent A. Petrie
>Dept. of Psychology
>University of North Texas

   Dear Trent/SPORTPSY,

     A few thoughts in reply:

   a) I'm surprised that you think many call themselves 'sport psychologists'
but I should clarify that I'm talking about academicians - I know this
happens in private practice.  My question is geared toward faculty in
psychology departments.

   b)  I'll post any information that doesn't already appear on SPORTPSY
in the way of replies - thanks to those who have responded.

   c) The broader context of my question comes from thoughts on the future
growth of sport psychology and whether such growth might expand to
psychology departments.  If no one in psychology departments really fills
a 'label' of sport psychologist, and advertisements are not including
this as a primary/secondary area of specialization, then we still have a
long way to go in getting sport psychology accepted in psychology as an
area of specialization and even longer in getting job openings in 'slots'
labeled 'sport psychologist'.

     Hope this clarifies my request a bit.

     Best wishes, Michael
From: TPETRIE@UNTVM1.BITNET (Trent)
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Subject: Re: Question
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:19:58 GMT
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Michael,

Thanks for the response.  A colleague (Ed Watkins) and I are in the final
stages of collecting data from counseling psychology programs on their
attitudes toward sport psychology training, research, student interest, and
teaching (we will be comparing these responses with parallel ones from
Exercise Science depts).  Maybe this information will shed some light on
how sport psychology is viewed within an established program of psychology.

Trent
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:14:11 EDT
From:         V5501E@TEMPLEVM.BITNET
Subject:      Re: NEED research assistance on womens rugby teams

Some very interesting research on women and rugby was completed by Fran
Johnston. She can be reached through the Department of Psycho-educational
Processes, School of Educ., Temple University, Phil. Pa. 19122. She is
presenting at the Sport Sociology conference which is coming up in November I b
elieve. Her M.S. thesis was a descriptive study focusing on self-perceptions
of female ice hockey and rugby players....Carole Oglesby
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