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From: herman@mips.com (Herman So)
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer
Subject: Unzipping .ZIP files
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:22:46 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: colossus.mips.com
Originator: herman@colossus.mips.com

Hello,

I recently downloaded some files with .ZIP extensions, but 
I've been unable to unzip them with pkunzip.exe  .   The error
message is "No files found".   Does anyone have any idea 
what the problem is? and the a possible solution?

thanks, 
herman
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer
Subject: Re: Need info on archive file formats
From: cctr132@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Nick FitzGerald, CSC, Uni. of Canterbury, NZ)
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:23:55 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

Someone asked about zip, arj, lzh, etc archive file formats (I can't do
a "fancy" reply coz he cross-posted to comp.sys.msdos.programmer - a
non-group, officially deleted/discontinued/whatever yonks ago - and my
news reader won't allow me to followup posts with invalid groups in the
"Newsgroups:" header line).

For .zip, snarf the Info-Zip Group's unzip source (available at any good
DOS ftp site).  It handles .zips, be they "straight" or self-x'ing.  I
think it has something to do with the "central directory" structure,
which either resides at the very end of any zip file or which is pointed
to by a pointer at the .zips end.

Good luck with the others.    8-)

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From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer
Subject: Re: How to low level format a hard drive?
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:44:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

potts@itl.itd.umich.edu (Paul Potts) writes:
>In article <Bs5tsH.6xE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes:
>>ron@vicorp.com (Ron Peterson) writes:
>...
>>Isn't that a SCSI drive?  First, you probably can't use standard
>>DOS functions to do anything with it.  Secondly, low-level 
>>formatting SCSI disks is usually not a good idea, and rarely
>>helpful.  Start with the diagnostics that came with your
>>SCSI controller.

>It is IDE, and not SCSI, disks that shouldn't be low-level formatted.
>(They sure make it difficult too).
>-- 
For modern drives, neither SCSI nor IDE drives should be low-level
reformatted under most circumstances.  Since formatting is a
high-level SCSI feature, many drives are programmed to ignore a
reformat command (and return a status of ok) anyway.
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.snowmobiles
From: srhamey@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Scott T Rhamey)
Subject: Just a thought
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:45:10 GMT

Just a thought for all of us here in the Mid-West the last couple of weeks:
What if all this rain we have been getting had been snow?  Hopefully it is a
sign of things to come!!!!
Newsgroups: alt.snowmobiles
From: dougr@meaddata.com (Doug Ritter)
Subject: Re: Just a thought
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:17:37 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Jul29.174510.22375@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> srhamey@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Scott T Rhamey) writes:
>Just a thought for all of us here in the Mid-West the last couple of weeks:
>What if all this rain we have been getting had been snow?  Hopefully it is a
>sign of things to come!!!!

The long-range forcasts for fall are starting to come out now, and as usual,
all the weather people are saying the current trend will continue, ie.,
cooler than normal and wetter than normal.  Sounds great to me, but then they
say that "the current trend will continue" *every*time*.

I've got my fingers crossed about winter, of course, but I do wish it would
dry up for just a little while - I've got a friend who's a farmer in west-central
Ohio, and he's within a week or so of losing his entire wheat crop.  It's been so
wet that what wheat isn't moldy is starting to *sprout*.

Think snow!

--
Doug Ritter (dougr@meaddata.com)            "Bo don't know snowmobiles!"

Newsgroups: alt.news-media,alt.politics.elections
From: jlong@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (John Long)
Subject: Re: "The Baby Boomer Elite"
Organization: CAF
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 01:32:23 GMT

In article <1682AA758.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>>>
>>>>=o= Boomers, after all, are so named because they were part
>>>>of a "baby boom" -- an increase in babies being born between
>>>>1946 and 1964.  Boomers are a dime a dozen.
>>           ^^^^
>>That's a bit too long a time span, I'd say. I think the Vietnam war
>>and civil rights marches were the definitive events. People too young
>>to have participated in the shitload of history being made during
>>the 60's are of a different mindset.
> 
>I was born in '62 and I participated in peace marches and did lots of things
>to protest the war just like my father did.

You would have been 10 years old when the draft ended. Lucked out by your
chin-whiskers didn't ya? 

>I even have peace signs to prove it. :) (I'm so f*ucking radical!) ;-)

Get any medals? Lots of people got medals in the 60's Boomers, all.

>Luckily I missed Woodstock and didn't get my mind destroyed by drugs, which
>seems to be the great legacy of the '60s.

There are lots of drugs around today. You still have your chance. In fact,
cocaine (crack, ice) weren't popular until John Travolta went to the disco
in the '70's

> 
>Civil rights too! I still remember the start of the '67 riots in Detroit.
>
And that's what civil rights mean to you? Riots? You were 5 years old.
 
>Of course I had the advantage of having young parents and I lived in the
>city. I was not sheltered from current events like many kids.

A lot of kids are living in cities this very day.
> 
>As I see it, the baby boom was created by persons returning from WWII and
>settling down and having kids, so it actually spans more like '45-'65.

Numbers, numbers. It is the commonality of experience that defines the
generation, and more than anything else, it was the Vietnam war that
was single most formative experience. Not Woodstock, not drugs, not
protest marches, but the draft and the war. 

> 
>The last generation that believed in wasteful living (yes, the environmental
>movement started in the '70s!) despite a brief return to that during the
>Regan years.
> 

You turned 8 in 1970, so you must have been very aware of the beginning
of a 'movement'.

>I'm not a Perot supporter, but he had his biggest support from the
>under-30 crowd.
>

And you are still under 30, but will you still not support Perot after
October? Or won't you be a boomer then.

 
>And let's not forget the new crop of teenagers who worship the '60s and
>anything they *think* happened back then (like the environmental movement).
>
Numbers, numbers. Hey, one day just flows into the next. The 60's are still
happening.
 
>blah blah blah
Agreed.
>--Eric
jlong


Newsgroups: alt.news-media,sci.geo.geology,misc.headlines
From: BCLEWIS@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Brian Lewis)
Subject: Re: Reporters Can't Write (Was Re: Discussion of science coverage)
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:16:48 GMT

In article <BrrH19.Msn@cs.psu.edu> okunewck@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Phil OKunewick)  writes:
>   Forget the science classes for reporters... we really need to send
>reporters to WRITING CLASSES!  :-)
>
 
Some training in logical thinking would be very useful.  Without logical
thought, whatever they write is guaranteed to be nonsense.  I do agree,
however, that well-written nonsense is probably better than
poorly-written nonsense.
 
>   Perhaps the today's journalists-in-training will learn from the
>miserable job that the current media is doing.
 
One can hope.  Unfortunately, hope is about all that's left.  I suspect
that today's journalists-in-training are doing their best to emulate
what they see as "successful" journalists.  Oh well.
 
Brian
Newsgroups: alt.news-media,sci.geo.geology,misc.headlines
From: ceb@dbrus.Unify.Com (Caroline E. Bryan)
Newsgroups: alt.news-media,sci.geo.geology,misc.headlines
Subject: Reporters Can't Write (Was Re: Discussion of science coverage)
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:40:25 GMT
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization

In article <BrrH19.Msn@cs.psu.edu> okunewck@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Phil OKunewick) writes:
>   Forget the science classes for reporters... we really need to send
>reporters to WRITING CLASSES!  :-)
>
>   Due to the large amount of bad reporting I've seen (sensationalism,
>misrepresentation of facts, and poorly written articles), I've learned
>that the best policy is to not trust a reporter any farther than you
>can throw him.
>
>   Perhaps the today's journalists-in-training will learn from the
>miserable job that the current media is doing.

My father taught journalism at the U of Md; one of the freshman classes he
taught was for writing news articles.  One year he gave the students a
severe reality check by having a 4th-grader (me) correct their papers for
spelling.  Did it help any?  You tell me:  one of his students was Connie
Chung.


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From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: alt.news-media
Subject: fair's _counterspin_
Date: 22 Jul 92 00:51:39 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

HB>MANAGED DEMOCRACY: One got the impression from the coverage of the
HB>Democratic Convention that democracy is something that many in the
HB>national press corps are uncomfortable with.  CBS's Richard

     I get the impression that the national press would have frowned
     on this convention, no matter what happened.  Political
     in-fighting at the Democratic convention has been a feature
     attraction for a long time now, and people seem genuinely
     disappointed that Clinton has the entire party under his thumb, to
     the point that the hot topic was "Will Jerry Speak?" instead of
     something more potentially damaging to the ticket.

HB>mainstream press connected, for instance, Clinton's vague, timid
HB>position on health care with the support he gets from the medical
HB>industry (as Thomas Ferguson did in The Nation, 4/13)?

     "Timid position?"  The Democratic ticket is pushing major health
     care reform as one of the primary planks in its platform this
     year, with Clinton loudly proclaiming how he intends to change
     the system if he's elected.  I don't see how this can be
     seen as "vague and timid."  I see "vague and timid" as George
     Bush declaring - as he did at the Youth Nation on Monday -
     that we currently have the best health care system in the world,
     thereby implying that he will DO NOTHING about it.
---
  SLMR 2.1a  Get out of the waves!  Get out of the water!
--
Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA

Newsgroups: alt.news-media,alt.politics.elections
From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago)
Subject: Re: "The Baby Boomer Elite"
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 05:49:58 GMT
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX

Sorry, I lost all the original attributes.

>>>>>=o= Boomers, after all, are so named because they were part
>>>>>of a "baby boom" -- an increase in babies being born between
>>>>>1946 and 1964.  Boomers are a dime a dozen.
>>>           ^^^^
>>>That's a bit too long a time span, I'd say. I think the Vietnam war
>>>and civil rights marches were the definitive events. People too young
>>>to have participated in the shitload of history being made during
>>>the 60's are of a different mindset.
>
>i was born in '58 and don't consider myself a participant in the
>60s. so i am more a baby plumer rather than a baby boomer.
>i have seen some demographic charts which show the number of births
>increased until 1960 or so. so boom would refer to the actual
>exposion of births at the end of WWII rather than the succeeding
>numbers which steadily increased until 1960 when they started
>dropping.

In the Baby Boom biography _Great Expectations_, the official standard
is that the Baby Boom generation consists of those born between 1946
and 1964, so the original poster had it right. After 1964, births 
dropped significantly, not just steadily, as they had already been doing,
so that marked the end of that generation. It's true that a Boomer born
in 1946 will have different cultural touchstones from one born in 1964,
but they're still part of the same generation. I was born in 1956 and
never considered myself a Baby Boomer until I read that book. It's
fascinating, btw, and if I could remember the name of the author I
would highly recommend you seek it out, to understand in greater detail
the history and mindset of the generation.


>-- 
>-- Pat Monardo
>-- pjm@cshl.org


Newsgroups: alt.news-media,sci.geo.geology,misc.headlines
From: okunewck@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Phil OKunewick)
Subject: Re: Discussion of science coverage
Organization: Random, at best
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:55:56 GMT

buurt1@rulfsw.leidenuniv.nl (Jasper Kips) writes:
>
>Speaking as a reporter, factually writing as a reporter, it is easy in
>my opinion. It DOES matter. Why?, well first of all a fairly large 
>section of the population get their "facts" of science out of radio, 
>television or newspapers. As a reporter you have a duty to that public 
>to inform them as good as possible.
>Secondly, and this is a really reporter-argument, it is my credibility
>that is on the line. not only with the general public, but also with my 
>sources, in this instance scientists. If the public or my sources feel 
>that I'm doing a lousy job, then why notice my job, and therfore me 
>anyway.
>Last, and this is a controversial argument, at least in Holland, there 
>is the educational value of science reporting. A good example is 
>reporting concerning AIDS. This has a great interest in the general 
>public. However because of misreporting, and some of it is very 
>persisting, there still are misconceptions about AIDS and HIV, which 
>frankly, scare the hell out of me. If, and only if, a science reporter 
>tries to be a good reporter, tries to act in a scientfic manner and 
>tries to falsify everything a scientist says, then you can state he/she 
>is doing a good job. If however he/she uncritically reports whatever any 
>given scientist thinks at any given moment, well he/she (the rporter) is 
>nothing more than a bulletin board.
>Remember for a reporter a scientist is a reliable and trustworthy 
>source, so trustworthy that the reporter tends to stop thinking for 
>him/herself
>
>Jasper Kips


   Forget the science classes for reporters... we really need to send
reporters to WRITING CLASSES!  :-)

   Due to the large amount of bad reporting I've seen (sensationalism,
misrepresentation of facts, and poorly written articles), I've learned
that the best policy is to not trust a reporter any farther than you
can throw him.

   Perhaps the today's journalists-in-training will learn from the
miserable job that the current media is doing.

Xref: sparky alt.news-media:818 sci.geo.geology:1707 misc.headlines:4971
From: lee@wang.com (Lee Story)
Newsgroups: alt.news-media,sci.geo.geology,misc.headlines
Subject: Re: Discussion of science coverage
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:12:21 GMT
	<1992Jul20.013329.19766@regina.cs.uregina.ca>
Organization: Wang Laboratories, Inc.


"Laws of physics tell us that the earth's gravitational pull
 is created by the moon's orbit."
---Elizabeth Dinan, _Tri-Town_Transcript_, 12 March 1992.

And yet I would consider Ms. Dinan among the best columnists North of
Boston on more political and topical issues!  No mean writer, either.
Note the imposing "Laws of...", the omniscient metaphorical speech
implied by "tell us", the careful distinction between phenomenon
(gravity) and symptom ("gravitational pull").  How could I not believe
her with 90 percent of my being?

Well.... we all make boners.

No medium which relies on advertising for the bulk of its revenue
would consider "wasting" inches of newsprint for citations and
bibliography.  Nor would a publication written almost entirely by
salaried staff scribblers "waste" much money on research.  My response
to the intrinsic flaws of the news periodicals has been to get my
commentary overload on current events from ad-free op-ed compendiums
like _The_National_Forum_ and from electronic media like this one.
Anything political that doesn't make it into these can be slowly
digested and later regurgitated as part of a more leisurely article in
the partisan weeklies and monthlies.

Science, on the other hand, proceeds so slowly that it is even less
amenable to the usual sloppy newspaper treatment (for example, the
notion of a science 'scoop' is ridiculous).  It's also sufficiently
"technical" that most of us simply can't understand the real scientific
news (new research papers), or even whether they're important or not,
without much background study.

My conclusion: "science reporting" is essentially an oxymoron.
General news media should avoid becoming flawed publicists for science
by avoiding it altogether.  Those citizens who wish to apprise
themselves of the essentials of quantum mechanics or molecular
biology will find that appropriate volumes can be ordered through
any good bookstore.
--
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              (Merrimack Valley Paddlers)
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Newsgroups: alt.news-media,sci.geo.geology,misc.headlines
From: streeter@cs.unca.edu (Tom Streeter)
Subject: Re: Reporters Can't Write (Was Re: Discussion of science coverage)
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:13:52 GMT

In article <e18f2rq@Unify.Com> ceb@dbrus.Unify.Com (Caroline E. Bryan) writes:
>In article <BrrH19.Msn@cs.psu.edu> okunewck@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Phil OKunewick) writes:
>>   Forget the science classes for reporters... we really need to send
>>reporters to WRITING CLASSES!  :-)
>>
>>   Due to the large amount of bad reporting I've seen (sensationalism,
>>misrepresentation of facts, and poorly written articles), I've learned
>>that the best policy is to not trust a reporter any farther than you
>>can throw him.
>>
>>   Perhaps the today's journalists-in-training will learn from the
>>miserable job that the current media is doing.
>
>My father taught journalism at the U of Md; one of the freshman classes he
>taught was for writing news articles.  One year he gave the students a
>severe reality check by having a 4th-grader (me) correct their papers for
>spelling.  Did it help any?  You tell me:  one of his students was Connie
>Chung.
>

It's probably why she chose to work in television.........



-- 
Tom Streeter                                |   streeter@cs.unca.edu
Dept. of Mass Communication                 |   704-251-6227
University of North Carolina at Asheville   |   Opinions expressed here are
Asheville, NC 28804                         |   mine alone.
From: su@prag (Sean D. Ackley)
Newsgroups: alt.fandom.cons
Subject: CON-FUSED Dealers Tables OPEN!!!
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 23:15:43 PDT
Distribution: ca
Organization: PRA Group


As of this morning we have a few dealers tables open for CON-FUSED.
 
Contact Sean Ackley at 408-453-4000 x 7252
 
 
Wes Craven and followers will be attending, as well as guests from
Twin Peaks, artists, and special effects mavens.

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From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Subject: Re: CON-FUSED Dealers Tables OPEN!!!
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 18:36:29 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez
Distribution: ca

In article <wkkeoB1w164w@prag> su@prag (Sean D. Ackley) writes:
>
>As of this morning we have a few dealers tables open for CON-FUSED.

Gee, I wonder why?.......
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
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Babbage's Birthday Bargain Bash -- December 26th, 1992
From: fafhrd@clubzen.fidonet.org (Fafhrd)
Newsgroups: alt.fandom.cons
Subject: Re: Con-Fused 1992
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 00:40:56 PST
Organization: Club Zen BBS - Fidonet/Internet - +1 408 734 2289

su@prag (Sean D. Ackley) writes:

> 
>                  C O N -- F U S E D  1 9 9 2
> 
> Featuring James Hong, Surprise guests from Twin Peaks, Jean Kluge,
>           Kim Bailey, and others.
> 
> Dealers Hall, Casino Royal, Filking, Lazer Tag, Art Show, 24 hour
> gaming, Regency Dancing, and much, much more...
>  
> Contact: Sean Ackley at 510-623-9677 for more info.
> 
> or:  su@prag.mhs.compuserve.com  for more info.
> 
> 
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Does the conspicuous absence of Marc Singer from the list mean that he is 
not coming?

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From: su@prag (Sean D. Ackley)
Newsgroups: alt.fandom.cons
Subject: Con-Fused 1992 (more fun on Sunday!!)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 20:00:32 PDT
Distribution: ba
Organization: PRA Group


Come on down to Con-Fused 1992

Sunday will be the day for fun and excitement.

Guests:  Grace Zabriskie
         Harry Goaz
         Wes Craven
         Jean Kluge
         Kim Bailey
           + more

Dealers Hall, Art Show, special effects panels, Mystery &
science fiction, and much more...

We will have a big pow-wow at 5:00pm to end the con, and the dead
dog party with live d.j.'s will start at 8:00pm.

Come and enjoy the excitement!

Red Lion Inn
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