HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mlegare@wetware.com (BoBteCh)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: brag
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:39:37 GMT
Organization: sulphur & oxygen


DAMN right i'm a hypocrite!  NO ONE can keep up
with my standards, ESPECIALLY MYSELF!


BoB
teCh
take it to misc.test
From: ken@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Ken Johnson)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Ken Johnson Take Note
Date: 13 Aug 92 10:25:38 GMT
Followup-To: talk.bizarre
Organization: Bugs-R-Us


In article <MJD.92Aug12001216@saul.cis.upenn.edu> mjd@saul.cis.upenn.edu
("[*] It Came From The Sump") writes:

#  My sister is going to Edinburgh in four days.
#
#  You'll recognize her; she's the one with the big *******.


Well, let's see how a few seven-letter words rate on the old
probabilityometer:


  0      0.2     0.4     0.6     0.8      1
  |---:---:---:---:---|---:---:---:---:---|
       |
       |
     hooters


  0      0.2     0.4     0.6     0.8      1
  |---:---:---:---:---|---:---:---:---:---|
    |
    |
  ferrari


  0      0.2     0.4     0.6     0.8      1
  |---:---:---:---:---|---:---:---:---:---|
                    |
                    |
                  stutter
 
  0      0.2     0.4     0.6     0.8      1
  |---:---:---:---:---|---:---:---:---:---|
                                       |
                                       |
                                     husband

  0      0.2     0.4     0.6     0.8      1
  |---:---:---:---:---|---:---:---:---:---|
                                         |
                                         |
                                       buttock



-- Ken "Filling in the blanks" Johnson

-- 
////  Advice to dieters:          ////  Ken Johnson, A I Applications Institute
////    Never eat more than       ////       80 South Bridge, EDINBURGH EH1 1HN
////    you can carry.            ////                 E-mail ken@aiai.ed.ac.uk
////               -- Miss Piggy  ////     phone 031-650 2756  fax 031-650 6513
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
From: thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox)
Subject: Re: The wages of Stupidity are Death
Originator: btc30679@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox)
Organization: Ancient Illuminated Sears of Bavaria
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 07:10:08 GMT

mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk> writes:

>Sorry, yes, I skipped a stage.  I forgot to mention the assumption that CJ
>doesn't deserve to die.

Everyone has a right to die.

--
Ben Cox, occasional smoker
thoth@uiuc.edu
ls/mft
From: rone@alcor.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: WILL RICTUS HEP'S FATHER PLEASE STAND UP?
Date: 21 Aug 1992 13:45:35 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: alcor.usc.edu

In article <l96h23INN4sb@alcor.usc.edu> rone@alcor.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri) writes:
>... nj, another brilliant and illustrious Latino.

I did it again.

Someone put me down.  Use a gun, give me a lethal injection, kick me in the
nuts, run me over with a car, marry me to Marilyn Quayle, I don't care.  Just
put me out of my misery.


5150
i should get used to this, i guess
From: jperry@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (John Perry)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: Uncle Lou's Sayings (4)
Keywords: open road
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:08:10 GMT
Followup-To: talk.bizarre,misc.test,rec.humor
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Originator: jperry@oahu.cs.ucla.edu


   "They all pass me on the open road."
			   Uncle Lou


john



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From: gj@comlab.oxford.ac.uk (Craig Shergold)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Message for CJ
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:42:58 GMT
Organization: Scrabster and Eriboll Armoured Kilt and Exploding Sporran Company
X-Current-CD: Frauen kommen langsam -- aber gewaltig, Ina Deter

cj (er..) apostrophizes:
(
 ) yp-- excuse me-- NIS (fuck you British Telecomm) handles things
(  marvellously well in comparison.

Telecom Eireann now has `golden pages', bless their little flaxen socks.  /
Book your vaguely-yellow coloured page colour now.                       /
Blonde pages.  Banana pages.  Piss pages.                               / g
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
From: ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern)
Subject: Re: boulder blues
Organization: NCAR/UCAR
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:15:11 GMT

In article <-0!ny!r.gooley@netcom.com>, gooley@netcom.com (Mark. Gooley) writes:
> I am in Boulder, Colorado.
> 
> I am looking for an apartment.

You can't get an apartment here.  There is a Secret List of people who
are allowed to get apartments in Boulder, and as soon as a new apartment
is built, or an old one is vacated when its tenants escape the Boulder
Gravity Well, the Boulder Apartment Police guard it until the person
at the top of the Secret List is notified and can move in.

To get on the Secret List requires money.  Lots of money.

> Mark., too many slimy apartment agents here have gotten me peeved

Ilana, who has a basement studio apartment she'll rent you, for, oh, 
$800 a month, plus deposit, plus your assurances that you will never,
ever, play anything by Barry Manilow on the stereo.

-- 
/\         Ilana Stern 
  \_][ <-- ilana@ncar.ucar.edu 
      \____Boulder_____________________________________________Kansas
From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Anagram
Date: 17 Aug 92 00:34:27 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

rpwhite@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (rpwhite) writes:

>Aaron Humphrey says:

>>>I'm just happy that my eail address has only one "s", and Polewka is thus
>>>unable to anagram it into a phrase containing Carasso.


And now for a pustule of trivia:

        Aaron Humphrey   =   Human pyorrhea


--
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Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey)
Subject: Re: SWM Seeks SWF
Reply-To: aaron@space.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:54:03 GMT

heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM) writes:
: In article <p#5m=0m.rdc@netcom.com>, rdc@netcom.com (Roger David Carasso) writes...
: 
: >)27 year old male seeks female around same.
: > 
: 
: ..
: 
: >)Live at home in sunny Edmonton alberta canada.
: > 
: >STRKI...FOUL!
: 
: Kill the umpire!  He's clearly out.  Anyone who says they "live at 
: home" is a loser.  (Either the guy, at 27, still lives with his mother 
: or he doesn't realize *everyone* lives at home.)

Besides, calling Edmonton "sunny" is stretching things quite a bit.  Or maybe
there's a place in Alberta called "Sunny Edmonton" that I'm not acquainted
with.

--
---Alfvaen(a.k.a. Aaron V. Humphrey)
"So you found a girl who thinks really deep thoughts
 what's so amazing about really deep thoughts"  -- Tori Amos
Current Album--The Iron Man Soundtrack
Current Read--Henry David Thoreau:Walden and Other Writings
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: English usage
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:03:30 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <1992Aug18.180257.2759@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>In article <7241@skye.ed.ac.uk>, ken@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Ken Johnson) writes...
>
>>Welcome to `The Can You Spell "Its" Show', everyone, and our first
>>contestant is JOHN HEIM! John is a computer freak who lives in
>>Wisconsin, and a graduate of a university.  (Reverent hush from
>>audience.) An American university, that is! (Audience titters.) Or
>>geographically challenged, as we have to say these days.  (Audience
>>guffaws.  Fat woman at front of audience goes into hysterics and has to
>>be carried out in a wheelbarrow.) Now then, here's the first test, John,
>>take your time:
>> 
>>In article <1992Aug18.155203.21345@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu
>>(JOHN HEIM ) writes:
>> 
>>#  If its wrong there's a good chance that its my fault and that I typed it
>>      ^^^                                  ^^^
>>BZZZZZZZZZZZZTT!! BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTT! Oh, dear.  <patronising
>>smirk> Two wrong already and you've been here less than a minute.  I'm
>>afraid it doesn't much look as though you'll win that nude windsurfing
>>holiday with Christine Nelson in the British Virgin Islands, now, does
>>it? Still, you get one more chance, so don't be discouraged.  Try again!
>>You might win the bunch of bananas. 
>
>You gotta be kiddin' me.


But wait, here's another chance for you.

If, while blindfolded, you can tell the difference between having sex
with a mountain goat and having sex with Christine Nelson, you'll win
the all expense paid holiday to Glasgow with Ted Kaldis.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
From: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: talk.rape
Subject: Re: handguns (?)
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:44:22 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <1992Aug17.060623.4197@news.acns.nwu.edu>, query@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Samuel Green) writes:
>	Deadly force...  That force which is used to cause death or great
> bodily harm.  Such force is only to be used as a last resort, when all
> other means have failed.
> 	You don't exactly have a lot of leeway there...  all other means
> have failed means essentially, that you cannot run, you cannot use another,
> less deadly means of defense, or the attacker has a weapon classified in
> the deadly force group.  Essentially, what this says to me is that a gun is
> only to be used for purposes of dealing death.

Not true. Different tates have different requirements. The norm tends to be you
must try to use all reasonable alternatives including fleeing. The "Western
Defense" (called so because it becomes more predominant as you move west across
the country) states that if you are under a reasonable fear or someone
attacking you OR your property, you may stop them with deadly force. That can
be as little as you are afraid they might strike you barehanded.

> 	
> 	Finally, on handgun fatality statistics, they are only that:
> Statistics.  Don't even consider the odds that you might only wound your
> attacker, because they are irrelevant.  Consider only this fact:  Your
> using a gun for defense HAS to signify your willingness to kill your
> attacker.  Period.

In my opinion, if someone were low enough to warrant pulling the gun, one might
feel no remorse in aiming for the skull. (But, the chest is a better target as
you are more likely to hit.)

DC

Newsgroups: talk.rape
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: Re: handguns (?)
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<1992Aug18.120226.18553@brtph560.bnr.ca>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:16:42 GMT

<In article <1992Aug18.120226.18553@brtph560.bnr.ca> jcmarx@bnr.ca (JC Marx) writes:

<In addition to what DC has already said, handguns are not normally as
<accessable as a small container of mace. 

	This is false. Small revolvers and/or pistols can be
	carried safely in a number of ways that make them just
	as easily reached as any chemical tool.

<Mace is legal 

	No, it isn't. It is prohibited in some Eastern U.S. states,
	may be illegal in some provinces of Canada (I have conflicting
	information) and requires a weapons permit in Massachusetts.

	It also is not nearly as effective as many people claim.

<and can be attached to one's car
<keys, which are quite often already in one's hands anyway. Probably wouldn't
<do to have a woman, who thinks she is being stalked through the mall, to have
<her handgun ready, esp if a) no bullet is breached, and b) she is carrying
< several packages. 

	"Wouldn't do"? Excuse me, there are at least 2 methods
	of concealed carry which allow a person to put hand on
	firearm in "ready" position (finger off trigger) while
	not exposing the firearm to view.

<Beside, IMO, most woman aren't as vengeful (sp) as men. If 
<some guy(s) tried to rape me, I would definately be trying to kill them. Woman
<don't normally have this thirst for blood and simply wish to escape the
<attacker, which frankly, makes much more sense.,

	Since you are not a woman, this comment isn't particularly
	useful. Suffice to say, women constitute the fastest growing
	category of firearms owners in the U.S.

<In addition to the above, one must be trained to use a handgun effectively - 
<no training required for mace. 

	This is incorrect as well. Basic training in proper handgun
	use can be done in as little as 5 or 6 days. Women generally
	learn *faster* than men do, because they don't have their
	ego to get out of the way.

	Mace and other chemical sprays *do* require training to use
	properly. AWARE in Massachusetts regularly offers training
	in the proper use of these tools.

<Mace goes in the face (an easy target in most
<instances), however, a bullet must be aimed with precision. 

	Sorry, mace to the face isn't as easy OR as reliable
	as you seem to think. 

	Women who defend against rape attempts with firearms are
	most likely to succeed, according to FBI reports.
	Note that "defend" in most cases does NOT mean shots
	fired.

<If the woman
<hesitates, even for a second, her own gun could be turned against
<her. 

	A good point in favor of proper training in use and
	retention of firearms.

<She is
<   more likely to make that deadly hesitation while aiming a handgun.

	Since you aren't a woman, this is not particularly
	interesting.

<Lastly, a small container of mace is several times cheaper than a handgun.

	Not necessarily.
From: hcbarth@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Bart Bartholomew)
Newsgroups: talk.rape
Subject: Re: Home Brews?
Keywords: Ouch, that hurts!
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:22:09 GMT
Distribution: talk.rape
Organization: The Great Beyond


	Use brake fluid.  It's not as volitile nor as flammable
as gasoline, and it hurts a whole lot more in the eyes.  I've
had both, and much prefer gasoline.
	Bart
-- 
"It's not the thing you fling, the fling's the thing." - Chris Stevens
 If there's one thing I just can't stand, it's intolerance.
*No One* is responsible for my views, I'm a committee. Please do not
infer that which I do not imply.  hcbarth@afterlife.ncsc.mil
Newsgroups: talk.rape
From: boggs@a.cs.okstate.edu (BOGGS RICHARD GRAN)
Subject: Green Eggs and Ham
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 08:54:39 GMT

Wow.  Is it really necessary to quote so much of the other person's messages
in your own replies, fellow net-posters?  We're getting posts now of 250 and
500+ lines!  Surely they can be trimmed down a bit.

You (used collectively here) also might find it useful to take a vacation
from talk.rape for a while.  I think some people are more intent on literary
vengence than on constructive critisizms(sp?), know what I mean?

Go for the "meat" of the post.  I hate to see people pick something apart (geez,
that's why I hated literature classes).

-- 
Grant Boggs
boggs@a.cs.okstate.edu
Oklahoma State University
Stillwater, Oklahoma
Newsgroups: talk.rape
From: lili@cgsvax.claremont.edu
Subject:  About rape in this country
Organization: The Claremont Graduate School
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:42:23 PST

I don't know about the rape in this courntry .

any talk would be thanked by me.
From: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: talk.rape
Subject: Expendible men, helpless women?
Date: 12 Aug 92 09:16:25 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <10293@sun13.scri.fsu.edu>, pepke@ds1.scri.fsu.edu (Eric Pepke) writes:
> In article <1992Aug06.054709.10498@microsoft.com> jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer) writes:
>>While men are expected to do things which are as illogical and
>>limiting as what women do, I kinda think bringing up the draft
>>when we don't have one is rather cheesy. 
> 
> Well, let's pretend that we get a moron in the White House, and there's some
> reason that he thinks a big fat war will get him re-elected.  Where do you 
> think he'll go first to find names for the draft?
> 
> 1) The all-male draft registry
> 2) Some phone book, yeah, that's it!  That's the ticket!  Randomly selected
>    scrabble tiles!
> 
> -EMP
> "It can't happen HERE" -FZ

Actually, I don't think Jen KNEW that males had to register. After all, it is
not an issue which really concerns females.

Second of all what is really cheesy is that when Carter started the draft
registration, ther was a Supreme Court case which tried to force them to drop
the registration, or apply it to women as well.

The Supreme Court's answer?

If Congress only wants to draft men, that is its perogative.

Israel drafts both men AND women. I think we should do the same here. Also
sends BOTH genders in to fight. I would like to do the same.

However, some people feel that as female soldiers would be subject to rape,
they should not be allowed near the enemy. My position is that for milenna, men
have been subject to rape, having their eyes gouged out, and recently,
electrical current run through the testicles, and that has never stopped a
nation from sending men off to fight and die. 

Although, I can see where being able to torture and rape women in front of the
men could compromise our security. If a man is being tortured, the other men
tell him to brass it out.

However, Kimmy, if you had info the enemy wanted, we all know you would NEVER
talk just because they were torturing you (even though breaking is the norm),
however if they brought in some poor 'ol innocent woman-folk, and about 15
guards who would throw an all night party with her right in front of your cell,
how long before you told them everything they wanted to know?

Until we get a society where men can look at women and say--she is JUST as
expendible as I am, it might not be wise to put men and women in combat
together, as many men are too stupid to let the women run the same risks as
men.

An intersting note, women soldiers would probably not talk based upon rape or
threats of rape or other torture to themselves or the other prisoners.

DC
From: andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman)
Subject: Re: Store bought brew
Organization: Computer Science Department,  Stanford University.
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 01:55:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.085329.9621@uoft02.utoledo.edu> dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>Regarding the debate over mace v. home brews, why not just get a 
>49 cent trial sie of WD-40 or similar product and carry that?
>
>Plus, it would be difficult to be prosecuted for.

Not really.  The DA merely establishes WHY it was being carried and
then various weapons laws come into play.  The DA makes a deal with
the attacker (assuming best case, you're found out AFTER a justifiable
use) for no time or maybe even conviction, who then happily helps send
the WD-bandit up the river.

A justifiable use does not imply justifiable carry.

-andy
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Newsgroups: talk.rape
From: flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal)
Subject: Re: walking someone to their car
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:21:28 GMT

dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>Ever heard of "Don't start a flame war."

Imagine that.  Mr Flame War himself, the man who turned talk.rape from a mostly
constructive discussion into a flame fest, telling me how to avoid starting a
flame war.

>>>Second of all, the man has to walk all the way back from the car alone,
>>>entailing a similar risk to the risk the woman was unwilling to take.
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> 
>> If you think that men are raped on the street at night and in underground
>> parking lots just as much as women are ("a similar risk"), in North America,
>> you're not living in the same North America that I am.
>
>You have entirely missed the point Eric was making--that in situations a man
>places himself at a higher risk by helping reduce a woman's risk. No one ever
>said the man ALWAYS faces the EXACT SAME risk.

He didn't say "exact same", but he said "similar".  This was incorrect.  It is
not similar.

>All that was said is that in order for a man to reduce a woman's risks, he
>must increases his own--expecially under certain circumstances.

Sometimes yes.  Sometimes not, for example in underground parking lots in the
city of Toronto in which violence against men is quite rare but violence
against women is commonplace.  But even if there is an increased risk, if it's
substantially less than the decrease to the woman's risk, it makes sense for
the man to accompany her.
Newsgroups: talk.rape
From: andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman)
Subject: Re: handguns (?)
Organization: Computer Science Department,  Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:13:53 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.184416.26208@brtph560.bnr.ca> jcmarx@bnr.ca writes:
>I think the actual scenario is more like:
>1) Woman notices a man stalking her through the parking lot.
>2) From her peripheral vision, she sees him running towards her and knows now
>  that she cannot make it to her car in time.
>3) She runs from the attacker, drawing her revolver from her purse at the
>  same time.

Interesting.  Marx assumes that women with guns will behave stupidly.
Since they don't, this can only tell us about him, not them, but what
does it tell us?

Does this tell us something about what Marx thinks about women, or
what he knows about appropriate behavior?  (We already know that he
doesn't know how to rank the outcomes in probability order, that he
thinks that people have bigger mace targets than gun targets, that
mace is easier to aim, and that mace is effective, so the latter is
more likely, but it could be that he thinks that women are
specifically impaired.)

-andy
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From: loki@acca.nmsu.edu (Entropic Destroyer)
Newsgroups: talk.rape
Subject: Re: handguns (?)
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:29:29 GMT
Organization: New Mexico State University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Nosy (ataylor@nmsu.edu) wrote:
: 
: 	AWARE in New York conducted a test in which 10 women,
: 	selected at random, were to advance upon a NYPD
: 	officer who sprayed them with Mace(tm). All were able
: 	to advance some 20 feet and "stab" the officer with
: 	a rubber knife. None reported permanent effects; one
: 	woman said, "That stuff stings and made me angry".

I saw this tape.  It was pretty enlightening.  I'll post credit details if
I can find them.
: 	
: 	Now, Mace(tm) couldn't stop a 5'2" woman, but it's
: 	supposed to stop a coked-up 6'2" man? I have doubts...
: 
: 	I believe this event was videotaped, but do not know
: 	how to obtain the tape at this time.
: 
: 	Capcicum (sic) sprays are worth investigating for
: 	those who cannot or choose not to obtain firarms;
: 	they operate differently on the body than Mace(tm).
: 	However, chemical sprays only provide one with 
: 	a chance to escape; that may or may not be useful
: 	if one is attacked in ones own home, as almost
: 	half of women rape survivors are.
: 
The person who showed me the above tape also related an experience where said
person (yes, i'm being vague) was forced to use capsicum on an assailant.  the
assailant dropped in his tracks... this suggests that either a) the assailant
was not all that determined, or b) capsicum works a LOT better than civilian
mace.  I believe that said person also had a small handgun available as a 
second line of defense.

you see?  not everyone who carries a gun is completely bloodthirsty.  the 
assailant desisted, and the defender simply walked away.
: <|> 
: <|> <Mace is legal 
: <|> 

strangely, i believe the PR of Kalifornia has made civilian grade mace legal,
whereas capsicum is not legal.  smash the state.  :)

--
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	You're too dumb for a PhD.              loki@acca.nmsu.edu
	Should have studied for the GRE!    dftaylor@cechem.colorado.edu