From: Roy.Phillips@dustbin.omahug.org (Roy Phillips)
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: Re: Magickal arts
Date: 23 Jul 92 03:39:00 CST
Reply-To: roy.phillips@dustbin.omahug.org
Organization: Atomic Dustbin, Bellevue, NE
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JM->By altering our mental state in various ways, we can effect change that is
JM->not limited to simple cause and effect behavior modification, as in the
JM->paragraph above.  In magickal studies, this has been explained in various
JM->abstract ways, usually involving "vibrations", "energies", etc.  It is
JM->not possible to explain and avoid these abstractions, so I, too, will
JM->commit the sin...

JM->I view the universe as a collection of energies that are constantly in
JM->flux.  The patterns of the flux are pretty much well-behaved and steady,
JM->but they rely on one another.  The entire universe is connected in this
JM->way.

JM->When a practitioner performs a magickal ritual (spell, prayer,
JM->what-have-you)
JM->the product of the ritual is a change in this flux within him/herself.
JM->This change in flux then affects the states of flux around him/her, and the
JM->state change propagates.  By controlling exactly how this flux is altered,
JM->and which forces are involved, you can control the ultimate effect that
JM->will be caused.

JM->Biologically, and according to the laws of physics, as current
JM->interpretations
JM->go, this is all BS.  I think it is all true, and science has simply not
JM->covered this ground yet.  Therefore, it is not possible to explain from
JM->the point of view of the neuroscientist adequately, and especially from
JM->a layman.  But I'll step in it and try:

JM->We must assume that physicists have not yet found may sources of energy
JM->transfer that exists, not can they explain the methods involved (although
JM->I think they are approaching the answers in the realm of quantum physics).

JM->When a ritual is performed, certain mearuable changes occur in the brain
JM->at the neural level.  Many very drastic.  I believe that the overall
JM->pattern of neural firings constitute the flux of the brain, and changing
JM->these patterns can have the above effects on external reality.  I am
JM->very interested in performing some simple, uncontrolled experiments to
JM->try to immediatly disprove this, but haven't as of yet.  Possibly, the
JM->neurons also generate as yet undiscovered energies (bu I find this
JM->doubtful).

JM->        Well, that's about it.  Since I have worked here, I have noticed
JM->a distinct *lack* of evidence or information that would immediatley
JM->destroy this magickal theory.  That is not proof, but it's still
JM->interesting.

JM->        I should point out one last thing.  It is extremely incorrect
JM->to say the anything is possible through magick (much is not), and most
JM->people seem to see magick as being a "free-form" activity, with few
JM->rules governing what can occur.  This is wrong.

JM->        There is a basic set of rules that I learned when I started, that
JM->cannot be broken.  They appear to be immutable laws of reality.  And they
JM->also are rather similar to many laws of physics. Hmmmmm.
JM->--
Basically the microcosm is an exact copy of the macrocosm, changing one
changes the other.  I too have studied this (intensely some years ago),
and now, maybe not as much.  The theories can be mind boggling,
especially when you expect things to go a certain way (like by the
previously programmed information), then you might think it's time to
change processors (which won't work either).
        Yes, some people wanna think (I guess from watching too much
        tv...or the movie Warlock) that wonderous things can be done.

        What I've studied is it's supposed to be a device to completely
        develop the mind's abilities, and ultimately communicate with
        "The Guardian Angel"?  I have the reference, but I'm probably
        misquoting it.  It's interesting anyway.
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