From: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
Subject: Re: Chinese questions
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 02:45:58 GMT

In article <86025@netnews.upenn.edu> dww@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Grand master tong) writes:
>In a previous article, Mr.Brian Chung wrote:
>
>>...individualistic....test scores
>
>I do not care if I will only get a rough estimate or individualistic judgement
>from James, that is what I want.
>taking you test scores example, I want to know what James thinks about the
>general performance of the class.
>Surely he must know better than I do what the general score of the class
>should be around, since he has been in the class for some time while I have 
>never been in his class.
>
>Again. I am not searching for the absolute answer because I can not. But by
>asking you guys, I will be closer to the truth, isn't it?
>
>I believe James MUST have an opinion of what his sverage fellow Korean thinks
>and this opinion is exactly what I want.

	When you are in individualist, you do NOT have an opinion on
"average" fellow Korean because you do NOT believe in "average."

	My analogy to test scores...  If you are an individualist, it
is comparable to the entire class always behaving in the same way that
I described.  There can be no average because person A will get 1 on one
test and 100 on another and 38 on another.  But the overall distribution
remains the same: 1,2,3,...99,100.  So stop asking an individualist what
the "average" is, he/she will not answer, and it will be a waste of
bandwidth and time.
>
>PLease, do not confuse me with "loop-hole" logic.
>It is one thing to refuse to answer me and another thing to confuse me.

	There was no loop-hole in the logic.  
>
>To Mr.Chung:
>
>I again stress that I know nothing about both countries; lets say I am writing
>a thesis on
>"How do Koreans and Japanese and Chinese perceive each other"
>Why then can I not ask you about what you think is the similarity between
>religion in Korea and China? Surely, since Korea is near China, I assume
>you know more about China than I do.
>That was an OPEN question directed to whoever knows enough about both countries
> to answer. It was not directed to Mr.Choi.

	Unfortunately, there aren't that many Koreans who know really
a lot about China because of our relationship with China hasn't been
all that great since the communist took over China.  Only very recently
has the Korean government allowed people to travel to China.  So I think
the correct approach for you would be to ask only for Korean views here,
Chinese view in another newsgroup and Japanese view in yet another
newsgroup.  Besides, asking a Korean what a Chinese view is kinda silly
to start with.
>
>About your calling me scatterbrained . PLease remeber I originally posted
>it as a question, not an answer.
>
>I did not say:
>
>The average Korean has an Uzi

	Yes, you did.  Read what you wrote.  The first posting you made,
you did ask, but in the subsequent posting, you started asserting this.
Be careful.

>I said :
>
>Do they.......?
>
>And I made sure I preceded that with the statement:
>
>"from a layman's observation......"
>        ^^^^^^^
>
>I also ended with:
>
>"Is this generalization true?"

	And I answered no.  There you go.
>
>This all goes on to show that, being human, I cannot but help making
>generalizations based on what I see on the TV since I don't know
>much about Koreans. It was up to me to humbly ask for better knowleged
>peole for their opinion, which I did.
>I did not make a statement, I asked a question and was answered, albeit 
>rudely, but thanks everyone for responding anyhow.

	Funny, I don't make generalizations about anything based on what
I see on the TV.  My god, if I did that, I would not even be here since
TV, whether it's news or a TV show, shows America as a very violent
place.  Heck, I'd be scared to death living anywhere in the US.  All the
drugs, crime, sexual violence, physical violence I see on TV...  
>
>Bye.
>
>P.S. Logic reigns supreme during debates   
>   

	Logic is not the end.  It is only the beginning.  -Spock
>
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