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From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Cellular Frequencies
Keywords: cellular, legal
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:54:01 GMT
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group

In article <1568@anagld.analytics.com> sammy@anagld.analytics.com (Sam Blackburn) writes:
>This may be a FAQ, but is tuning in to cellular frequencies legal?  I had
>thought that listening to the freqs was legal but you couldn't record them
>or anything like that.  I thought that anything transmitted was legal to 
>listen to.  I'm just struggling with a little moral question...

The ECPA(1) makes it a crime to listen to cellular phone transmissions. It's
legal to tune to cellular *frequencies*, but you can't listen to cellular
*transmissions*. This subtle distinction allows service people to tune
to cellular frequencies looking for spurious products in the transmitters
they are servicing.

(1) ECPA, Electronic Communications Privacy Act

Gary KE4ZV
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: wrb@cbnews.cb.att.com (wallace.r.blackburn)
Subject: Kenwood Service SUCKS!!!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:24:47 GMT
Keywords: kenwood trash junk

In January, our radio club here at work got a nice, shiny new TS-850 to
replace our FT-757GX that everyone hated because it always needed fixed.

Well, about 2 1/2 months ago, the 850 started acting up.  It would
arbitrarily quit receiving.  You could get it back by toggling the send/rcv
button or tapping PTT momentarily.  OK, it's still under warranty so we
carted it back to the dealer.  All radios have problems, right?

The dealer couldn't fix it and complained that whenever he called Kenwood's
dealer support line, he got a voice mail machine and noone ever called him
back.  He finally called the guy's supervisor and got his voice mail - and
no callback!

He finally arranged to send it back to Kenwood for service and we finally
got it back today - only 2 1/2 months later.  It's not like it was
before...

IT'S WORSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It has the same problem as before except that the speaker NEVER works now -
you can only hear through headphones - when it is receiving!

I can't believe this!  They took 2 1/2 months to break it worse than it was
before!

I will never, never, never, never, NEVER buy, or support the club buying,
another Kenwood radio for as long as I live!

I understand that all radios have problems from time to time.  they are
complex pieces of equipment and it happens.  What I can't believe is that
you can buy a radio that costs that much and get such horrible service
work.  I backed out of buying a Ten-Tec Omni-VI because I didn't think I
would use it enough to justify $2500.  I am already starting to regret that
decision.  I wonder when the next production run will ship....




			Wally Blackburn AA8DX
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
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From: Jay.Townsend@f3.n346.z1.spk.wa.us (Jay Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QST, in my opinion...(long)
Date: 15 Aug 92 04:58:10 GMT

In a message of <14 Aug 92>, James N. Price wrote to All:

 JNP> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

 JNP> Our biggest single problem as a hobby, IMNSHO, is the FCC--both
 JNP> in enforcement (they don't do enough) and paying attention to ham
 JNP> radio (they don't) when it comes to allocating frequencies and so
 JNP> on.  The ARRL will have to become more and more a lobbying
 JNP> organization which desires/defends a portion of the frequency
 JNP> spectrum alongside some very high-powered commercial folks who are
 JNP> doing the same.  The big difference is: the commercial folks
 JNP> do/can make money with the frequency spectrum and hence have a
 JNP> rather different set of priorities than we do.  And the ARRL is
 JNP> what we have to depend on, like it or not.  So you might as well
 JNP> support it!

Well, all I can say to this is if we got say 10,000 amateurs to write ONE
letter to the FCC they would do everything/anything/whatever we told them to
do.  Its been my experience that the biggest single problem in this hobby (like
most others) is that there is total apathy on almost all issues.  A few have a
discussion in a forum such as this but almost none writes the ARRL, FCC, their
Director, calls their Section Manager or anyone else.

The only problem we may have is ourselves.

73, Jay Ws7i

 * Origin: Radio Therapy BBS (1:346/3)
From: amb@CS.COLUMBIA.EDU (andrew m. boardman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: License Manuals -- Which're the Best?
Date: 17 Aug 92 07:00:31 GMT

I'm looking for comments, opinions, and such on the various license
manuals that are out there.  All I've seen are the ARRL, Ameco, and
Gordon West's, the latter two of which seem to use the same strategy
(just listing the exam along with explanatory answers), whereas the ARRL
explains it all in one lump (*much* less repetitious) in more depth.
Each has it's attractiveness to me, and I'm wondering what kinds of
experiences people have had with them, especially those who have used
more than one...

andrew
kb2ozr
From: ENGE@ALMVMA.ALMVMA (Roy Engehausen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RACES Bulletin #236
Date: 22 Aug 1992 23:15:54 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Msgid: $RACESBUL.236

TO:    ALL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCIES/OFFICES VIA THE ARS
INFO:  ALL RACES OPERATORS IN CA (ALLCA: OFFICIAL)
       ALL AMATEURS U.S.         (@ USA: INFORMATION)
FROM:  CA STATE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES (W6HIR @ WA6NWE.CA)
       2800 Meadowview Rd., Sacramento, CA  95832  (916)427-4281
RACESBUL.236                                 DATE: Aug. 24, 1992
SUBJECT: OPS  -  Why simplex frequencies?  Part 1/2

     [This subject really incorporates two categories: planning under
MANAGEMENT and utilization under OPERATIONS.   For simplicity we
are listing it under the OPERATIONS category.]

     Why use simplex 2-Meter frequencies when a repeater will do
just as well?    Some reasons are unique to individual
organizations; others are common to all.    One reason is to get
off a wide area channel when a simplex frequency will do.   In
public safety systems the repeater channel may be used for
routine dispatch and communications, while a simplex channel is
used only for the tactical and exclusive needs of the incident.
     On Public Safety, Civil Air Patrol, and MARS channels the users
are disciplined and controlled.   This is not always so on Amateur Radio
frequencies.   A compromise in the ham bands is to move to a simplex
frequency.   More important, a move to a frequency that is NOT part of
any national simplex plan.   Why?   All to often that's where the non-
participants and unwanted operators will look for you.   Another reason
is that there are some hams, believe it or not, who feel they own a
simplex frequency in their area.

(Concluded in Part 2)

EOM


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From: stevej@pillock.moron.vware.mn.org (Steven Jarosh, KA0VYB)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Mobile mount in Caravan
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 10:46:18 CDT
Organization: 11th Hour Contest Group (North American Chapter)

lee@pranny.UUCP (Lee Reynolds) writes:

> >  In article <641@swamps.UUCP> val@swamps.UUCP (Val Christian) writes:
> >  >I'm looking for ideas on how people have mounted mobile radios in 
> >  >Caravans.  
> 
> **Don't try this in certain of the southern states! An acquaintance
> was recently prosecuted for miscenegation when he tried this.***
> 
>                        Lee

at least spell the damn word correct even if it is in very poor taste!!!

Steve KA0VYB
Xref: sparky rec.radio.amateur.misc:13927 sci.electronics:14433
From: jreese@NeoSoft.com (Jim Reese)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Circuit design as art; was: Re: Artists
Date: 16 Aug 92 12:48:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: NeoSoft.1992Aug16.124856.7742
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900

In article <1992Aug16.040406.27536@athena.cs.uga.edu> mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington) writes:
>Engineering is a _lot_ like art.
>
>Some circuits are like lyric poems (the Tektronix transmission line
>amplifier is an example); some are like army manuals; and some are
>like Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...

That's the funniest description of Engineering I've EVER heard!  This one's
going on my wall!  I LIKE IT!

IYT


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From: jayk@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jay Kesterson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: R5 Antenna/Verticals
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:37:24 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

>Still, I think there's good reason to be fond of the R5....and probably the
>R7.....and other such proven antennas of the vertical persuasion. Lots of
>times I wouldn't have even heard the DX if I were not using an omni-directional
>antenna....that's my BELIEF, not actual comparison.....my feeling is that
>I will keep the vertical even when I can manage to get something directional
>in the air, to listen on. I realize there's a big difference in gain, but
>there's a trade-off to the extra effort it takes to spin a beam while tuning.
>OK,OK....of course the beam/quad or whatever must be "better" or there 
>wouldn't be so many users 8^) !! 
>
>Jerry, K1MER

I have a R5 as well as two yagis, a Mosley PRO-96 (36' boom) and a Cushcraft
A3 (14' boom). While the yagis generally outperform the R5, from a little
to as much as 6 S-units, I still use the R5 for the purpose suggested above.
When digging around for DX if I tune across a weak signal on a yagi I
switch over to the vertical. If the weak station is near the same strenght
or stronger on the R5 then the yagi is pointed the wrong way. Time to start
turning the yagi to peak up the signal.

There was a time when the R5 was my only antenna. It works quite well and
I had lots of fun and contacts with it. However, it doesn't really
compare to a yagi. Even a small yagi like the A3 at 40 feet or so will
outperform the R5 99% of the time (IMHO and experience). Another advantage
of the yagi is that vertical antennas generally pick up much more electrical
(line) noise and computer hash than the horizontal.

73, Jay K0GU     jayk@hpxxx.fc.hp.com
From: multi@erich.TRiumf.CA (Ya'akov Miles,TRIUMF,Canada,V6T2A3,Tel 604-222-1047)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FT101B woes
Date: 16 Aug 92 10:16:33 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

I have a sick FT101B.  Specifically the plate won't dip , the load control
has no effect, and it only puts out 20 watts maximum.  Have changed finals,
with no improvement.  Operated rig into high SWR and it suddenly behaved
this way.  The local amateur repair shop is unable to diagnose the problem,
let alone fix it.  Does anybody have any solutions?  Please post EMAIL to

postbox		<miles@mindlink.bc.ca>	rather than at this address.

					Thanks,
					Y.N. Miles,
					<VE7-ALQ>
From: frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Frank Ball)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:53:44 GMT
Subject: Re: Antenna drilling
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc


*    As for mounting it: definitely go for a punch (such as Greenlee) if at all
*    possible.  Buying one is a LOT more expensive than your antenna, though!
*    I managed to borrow one, which was wonderful.  Failing that, unless the
*    hole is quite small, go for a hole saw.  Drills produce 3-sided holes when
*    drilling in sheet metal.

Use a drill a couple sizes smaller than the finished hole.  Then get a 
countersink the size of the hole you want and use that to "drill" out
the hole to the correct size.  It is a little bit slower but will give
a very round hole in sheetmetal.

Frank Ball   1UR-M          frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com
Hewlett Packard   
1212 Valley House Drive     (707) 794-4168 work  (707) 538-3693 home
Rohnert Park CA 94928-4999  KC6WUG Seca 750 XT350 IT175 DoD#7566 I'm the NRA.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jreese@NeoSoft.com (Jim Reese)
Subject: Re: Wanted: 1.2ghz HT recommendations, looking at Yeasu 911.
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:29:52 GMT

If you also operate 450, I'd highly recommend the Standard C628A dual band
450/1200 talkie.  I am extremely happy with mine.  It has all the standard
bells and whistles, PL encode/decode, DTMF paging, etc...ad nauseum.

It's a really nice machine.  Kinda pricy, but still cheaper than two radios.

IYT

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From: rc@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov (Robert Carpenter)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Art and Engineering
Date: 12 Aug 1992 04:54:20 -0700
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
	formerly National Bureau of Standards
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu


Art or Engineering?
Gosh, the Patent Office still calls each technical field an "art". Some
still refer to the "state-of-the-art" as a cutting-edge approach.

Jay Maynard tells of a friend who "engineered" a fan
speed controller which included dozens of components.

I admit to approaching codger-dom, but back when I was in engineering school,
it was emphasized that the job of the engineer was to make a sound,
ECONOMICAL design. Perhaps too many electronic engineers have spent their
careers on money-be-damned projects. There ARE another branches of electronic
engineering where cost IS quite important. I have recently been involved on
the fringes of a massively-parallel supercomputer design project. I can
assure you that THOSE engineers care about costs, even though the product
lists at up to about $50,ooo,ooo per machine.

Of course back around the turn of the half-century, when I was in school, it
was assumed that many EE graduates would work in the consumer/radio industry.
Then, too, that was in the bad-old-days when active components (tubes) were
large, expensive, and used a lot of power. Solid-state devices have redefined
the cost of complexity, to some extent. Adjusted for inflation, tube costs
are probably about the same today as when they were the only
amplifiers / oscillators available. How many transistors / ICs would you use
in a design if they cost $5 to $10 each for just ordinary types? (and were as
large as your thumb) ....

No, using more parts doesn't necessarily increase the overall cost of a
product. More parts CAN sometimes be used to improve long-term system
stability, and to reduce / eliminate the expensive alinement steps during
manufacture. The bad-old-days approach of having loads of COMPENSATION
controls, to (temporarily) achieve accuracy, is thankfully mostly behind us.
OK, I haven't converged a TV picture tube lately, ugh.

73, Bob W3OTC   w3otc@amsat.org
From: jkearman@arrl.org (Jim Kearman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Neat-o new license (stock)
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:15:29 EDT
Organization: American Radio Relay League

tonyp@convex.com (honey bunny) writes:
; 
; 
;For those of you due for renewal of your license:
; 
;You've probably got that faded yellow piece of paper
;that is barely readable, and was filled in by a 33-ASR.
; 
;It looks like one of those circa-1970's "you may already
;be a winner" things - where the cover was offset litho'd,
;and then a teletype typed in your Dog's name and a semi-
;correct address. Mondo impressive!
; 
;                         -BUT-
; 
;The new license is done on wheat-yellow parchment-looking
;stock - almost like the background of a business check.
; 
;It is printed on a laser-writer - excellent font.
; 
;It is a two-fer: the top is the wallet-sized license - 
;complete with a picture of a scissor - so you know where
;to cut it out, and a 7x9 station copy. 
; 
;                     LOOKS KILLER!!!
; 
;FCC - you folks did an excellent job!
; 
;(AND FOR ALL YOU AMATEUR EXTRAS OUT THERE):
;P.S. - I don't know if they are still available, but 25
;years ago, when I got my Amateur Extra, you could write 
;to the examination point, and get a offical A-E station
;license form. It was blue ink on white paper, and looks
;quite impressive. 
; 
;--
;Tony J. Podrasky |  What's this thing?
; San Diego , Ca   |  It's called a MODEM.
;tonyp@convex.com |  And what's this button for? 
;WA2EAA NNNN ZCZC  |  Whatever you do, don't touc{{{7bh6xx!{@%%hxbd&$#)$% NO CAR
;RIER
;

FCC no longer issues the Extra certificate, which is too bad.
I have one dated 1974, which is quite impressive alright. 
ARRL will send a similar certificate if you send a copy of
your Extra license. Maybe you have to be a member, but I'm 
too lazy to find out, and no one on here is elitist enough
to want one, anyway, right? :> Besides, it's more impressive
if the Friendly Candy Company issues it.

****************************************************************

JIM KEARMAN, KR1S                    Voice: 203-666-1541 ext 279
ARRL Assistant Technical Editor	     FAX:   203-665-7531
Author of `The DXCC Companion'	     ARRL Headquarters
Editor of `Now You're Talking!,'     225 Main Street
ARRL License Manuals,		     Newington, CT 06111
ARRL Instructor Guides		     e-mail: jkearman@arrl.org
Author of `Wally and Mike' stories

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From: michael.solinas@gate.micromed.com (Michael Solinas) 
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: STANDARD C528 MODS
Date: 17 Aug 92 12:53:00 GMT
Reply-To: michael.solinas@gate.micromed.com (Michael Solinas) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Micro-Medic Network Gateway - +1 408 280-1610 - Public access BBS

I hear that someone has worked out mods for the Standard C528A to extend
the receive range.  Has anyone here heard of this?  I'd really like to 
get a copy, if possible!
From: MOSIER@iris.uncg.EDU (Steve Mosier)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Paddles, portable
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:05:20 GMT
Organization: University of NC at Greensboro
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

> Perhaps you could do what the boy scouts do, and make a paddle out
> of two twigs that you can leave behind at each camping site...

Good idea, but remember this only works with conductive trees, like ironwood.

steve - W3GRG
mosier@uncg.bitnet
mosier@iris.uncg.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: dls@genrad.com (Diana L. Syriac)
Subject: Re: AARL vs ARRL
Organization: GenRad, Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:07:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.203208.18716@ttinews.tti.com> sorgatz@avatar.tti.com (sorgatz) writes:
>In article <382@arrl.org> ehare@arrl.org (Ed Hare KA1CV) writes:
>>In rec.radio.amateur.misc, usenet@ttinews.tti.com (Usenet Admin) writes:
>Uhuh..like I said...the problem is that the recent actions have been taking 
>place in areas where the FCC Field Engineer is suffering from 'Maytag Repair
>Man's Syndrome'. In So. Calif. the priorities have been layed out to me by
>our local OO Chief as follows:
>
> 1) Presidential Communications (for), Air Force 1, and 2. The motorcades for
>same and the various visiting international groups that the SS, FBI, CIA, etal
>must survey and protect. These frequencies are the FCC's local top drawer. Any
>kind of irregularities are run to task in real-time and without fail!
>
> 2) Air and Marine traffic frequencies (where) safety of passengers is at stake.
>
> 3) Police, Fire and emergency response frequencies.
>
> 4) Commercial broadcast and business related to broadcasting.
>
> 5) Common-carrier commercial interests.
>
> 6) ISM and manufacturing interests.
>
> 7) Amateur Service, but only in extreme cases.
>
> 8) CB, but only where such operations impact Priorities 1-6.
>
>
>(Well, great! At least we beat the CBers by one notch...or did we?)

....I've just read this list of priorities, and I have to say I agree with 
it.  Why should a free service (ie, Amateur Radio....remember, we don't pay
any fees for licenses) get priority over national defense, or even commercial
(ie, paid) services?  So, I guess I missed the point that Mr. Sargatz was
trying to make.

I also can't figure out how namecalling in public is going to get him any
more support.....but I'll stay out of that discussion.  I lose interest when
people stop being logical.


->Diana L. Syriac (Carlson) dls@genrad.com	Ham: KC1SP (Sweet Pea)      <-
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From: charles@greyrock.mso.colostate.edu (Charles H. Hemstreet IV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dualband HT recommendations?
Date: 16 Aug 92 13:52:39 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University


   Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
   Date: 10 Aug 92 06:42:37 GMT
   Organization: The Programmer's Pit Stop, Ann Arbor MI
   Lines: 23

   I'm a new ham (just passed my Technician exam this past Saturday), and
   I'm looking at getting a HT as my first rig.

Marc,

I am a proud owner of an Alinco DJ-580T dual band HT.  It is the best
and only radio I have ever owned.  I highly recommend it and pretty
price comparitive with other dual band HT.  Run's just below $390.  I
would also like to recommend taking a look at an AES catalog.  They
are very competitive and offer great prices.

Good luck,

Charles
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