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From: tbachman@hamline.edu (Toni Bachman)
Subject: ADD and ADHD FAQ
Organization: Hamline University, St. Paul, MN.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:36:00 GMT

Hi:

I have volunteered to keep a FAQ on ADD and/or ADHD, and I need your
stories, comments, experiences, etc.

Please consider the following questions when preparing your "story".

Has your child been diagnosed with ADD or ADHD?  If so, at what age was
this diagnosis made?  What was going on with your child that made you
think to have a diagnosis done?  Is your child on medication?  If so,
which medication?  Do you have any advice for parents who may be having
trouble with a child?  Do you have any tricks that help with behavior
that others may want to try?

These are just a few ideas, please feel free add any other details that 
could be helpful to someone else seeking information.


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Please e-mail your coments to:  tbachman@hamline.edu
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Please include (on line one, if possible) whether or not you want your
name dropped from your story.  If not stated, your name and e-mail
address will be included.

If you have any questions, please contact me!!

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Toni Bachman                                            tbachman@hamline.edu

Kids are worth their weight in gold ------   Aren't They??????
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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: Debbie@b3.ingr.com (Debbie Thomas)
Subject: miscarriage at 6.5 weeks
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:46:54 GMT

I agree with the "find another doctor"!  Medical care is something that we
pay dearly for and you deserve to have a doctor that will be understanding.  I
also recommend that you look for a miscarriage support group.  You may not want
to attend meetings but the one here was very helpful for a friend of mine over
the phone.  Hers was associated with the hospital and your doctor should have
told you about one in your area.  I also recommend the book "Preventing Miscarriage" sorry I don't remember the author, but it had some hopeful advice and 
possible treatments.  I am sorry for your loss.  BTW, men do grieve differently
(according to the support counselor) so, it may take your husband longer to 
let out his feelings, be patient and I hope that you have a healthy baby soon.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: ooblick@intercon.com (Mikki Barry)
Subject: Re: "Missing out" (was. re:  Justin...)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 22:21:52 GMT
Reply-To: ooblick@intercon.com (Mikki Barry)
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA

In article <1992Sep09.194845.2206853@locus.com>, judy@locus.com (Judy Leedom 
Tyrer) writes:
> So while it is important to know what medications will HARM your fetus or
> interfere with your newborn's ability to survive, going into drug hysteria
> is unnecessary.  In the case of the epidural, there is very, very little 
chance
> that any of the drug will even get to the fetus.  And if some small amount
> does, there is no evidence that it in any way harms the child.  

In my view, the amount of drug getting to the fetus is not as important as 
what the epidural does to the process of labor itself, and the increased 
chance of other interventions.


Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: ohrd!crobshaw@cs.toronto.edu (Catharine Robshaw)
Subject: Late Crawler/Walker:  My beef
Organization: "Ontario Hydro - Research Division"
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 12:12:39 GMT

Hi again, I just had a little beef that kind of bugged me.
My son is 11 months old.  He is not crawling, he does not stand up,
he hardly will put weight on his legs.  He rarely rolls.  He is just
kind of making the motions of crawling now.  He can get up on all
fours, he can roll himself onto his stomach from a sitting position,
and he can work himself around on his stomach, so I figure it shouldn't
be too long.  He is a perfectly healthy normal happy good-natured little
boy.  Surely he is not the only child to take a while to do these things.
Why are some people insensitive, and ask if I have had the child checked
by a doctor in case there is something wrong?  At least I feel they are
insensitive, am I right?  I would be able to tell if there was a problem,
wouldn't I?  Once again, I'm appealing to the net to hear their
experiences with their children.  Thanks again.

Catharine
Xref: sparky misc.kids:23550 news.answers:2923
From: dcs@witsend.tnet.com (D. C. Sessions)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: differences between boys and girls
Date: 11 Sep 92 05:08:32 GMT
Organization: Nobody but me -- really
X-Mailer: TMail version 1.04

You might argue that it's silly for a woman to want (a) daughter(s)
in addition to the son(s) she has, but Boy Howdy! is it for real.
One mother I can mention was getting so desperate after three sons
that she threatened to name the next one Elizabeth Anne regardless
of plumbing.  Fortunately for her fourth son, in those days fathers
could sign off birth certificates before their wives came out of
anesthesia!

The happy ending -- sort of -- came twenty-three years later with
the birth of her first granddaughter.  She still has no use
whatever for her grandsons, though.

---
--- D. C. Sessions                            Speaking for myself ---
--- Note new network address:                dcs@witsend.tnet.com ---
--- There never was any correspondence between my views and SCI's ---
From: peac@sybase.com (Jeff Peacock)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: reading list for dad-to-be
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:26:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <1992Sep8.152352.985@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> cma@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (christine.m.dakes) writes:
>> Would anyone have any suggestions for "must" reading for
>> a prospective first-time father-to-be whose partner has
>> just learned she is pregnant?
>> 
>
>First, congrats.  I have the "What to Expect When You're Expecting"
>book, the 2nd edition actually. I love this book, it "blows away"
>the other books I have on pregnancy and childbirth.  And there is
>a whole chapter for fathers-to-be.  I highly recommend this book.
>You may buy it, or look for it at the library.  I think the 2nd

[etc]

my 2 cents:  As a father-to-be I thought this book was very informative,
but it really pissed me off.  There is a very strong underlying theme of
denigrating dad (father-to-be chapter not-withstanding) that I for one had
to learn to ignore before I could get the good out of the book.  Again, it
has great information.  It just also has an attitude.

"The first [second, ...] 12 months" series is very good, too.  It takes a
slightly more clinical look at development, including psychological
development, that is not as warm and fuzzy, but which we found fascinating.
It makes a good companion volume.

-JP
From: ctopp@cup.portal.com (Carol F Topp)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Pregnant and wedding rings too tight
Date: Mon,  7 Sep 92 17:01:35 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

I never lost all the the weight gain from my last pregnancy, but
my rings fit fine after a couple of weeks. 


This pregnancy, at 30 weeks, they still fit OK, but I got nervous
about them and took them off. Yes, it feels odd, but I've seen the
consequences of leaving them on too long - no permanant damage, but
not pretty when a finger is swollen so there is a 1/8 inch indentation
where the rings are and it hurts to bend the finger.

If I had a temporary ring that fit, I would wear it, but there would
be a good chance of swelling beyond the size of that one too.

Carol
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: anne@dolores.Stanford.EDU (Anne Paulson)
Subject: Re: "Missing out" (was. re: Justin...)
Organization: Stanford University
	<1992Sep12.145013.13111@afit.af.mil> <BuKnFD.22o@apollo.hp.com>
	<1992Sep14.184111.11861@access.digex.com>
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:14:24

In article <1992Sep14.184111.11861@access.digex.com> minx@access.digex.com (minx) writes:
   >
   >I've read some of the research.  A study you don't often hear cited
   >(I'll try to dig up the citation in *I Wish Someone Had Told Me*) is
   >a Canadian study, which showed that women who had undergone prepared
   >childbirth classes had no better a record at avoiding pain medication
   >than women who hadn't.

   But which childbirth classes?  My Lamaze class was AWFUL!  My friend's
   Bradley class, according to her, was great!

My Bradley class was great too.  And I don't believe that Bradley moms
are just as likely as other mothers to have pain medication.  The
teachers claim that the vast majority of Bradley moms do not have pain
medication, and that's borne out in my experience.  

-- Anne
Xref: sparky misc.kids:23126 rec.arts.startrek.current:12934
From: hechtel@meteor.wisc.edu (Leslie Hartten)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Names
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:00:41 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Meteorology and Space Science

In article <1992Sep11.124647.16730@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> adamson@grok65.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Ann Adamson) writes:
>Along these lines, I am at 23 weeks and just recently had an ultrasound
>that said I was "probably" having a boy.  But just in case, we need to pick
>a name for a girl too.  The name I really like for a little girl is Jordan.
>
>Anyway, any advice from people with cross-gender names or children who have
>them?  Does this end up being a real pain or do most people like it?
>

Well, I have what used to be considered the male spelling variant of
a name given to both men and women.  I've always liked my name (even
though, of course, the kids who hated me growing up found lots of
ways to be nasty with it).  Now that I'm older, I sometimes enjoy
the gender anonymity.  *BUT* for me, I think the biggest has always
been that I was named after my paternal grandfather.  This has
seemed especially appropriate to me since I look like my father and
his father, much more than I take after my mother's side of the
family in any visual (or personality) way.  One drawback has been
that I haven't been able to keep my maiden name as any sort of a
middle name; expecting people to guess, or even believe, that
Leslie Allen Hartten is female is too much!

On the other hand, a lot of the gender-neutral names bandied about
these days strike me as somewhat ugly, or else as such uncomfortably
stretched variants of a gender-specific name that I don't think I
would give them to one of my kids.

Besides, my first child will be a girl ;) and will be named
Elizabeth (Hi Betsy!  No, Steve doesn't know about this name thing
yet.)


Leslie Marie Hartten
  (please note that the smiley above indicates that I'm not pregnant,
or even trying, and that I realize wanting a girl doesn't mean I'll get one!)
-- 
Leslie M. Hartten
Dept. of Meteorology
1225 W. Dayton St.
Madison  WI  53706            Internet:hechtel@meteor.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: betsyp@apollo.hp.com (Betsy Perry)
Subject: Re: Crib recommendation wanted
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:40:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <BuBvnG.9q1@acsu.buffalo.edu> oispeggy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Peggy Brown) writes:
>My husband dislikes cribs, due to the kids he's know who have 
>climbed out of them, sometimes falling and getting hurt.
>
>He wants us to have a playpen instead of a crib and have the baby 
>sleep in the playpen.  He says they're safe and much harder for 
>the baby to climb out of.  This is our first, as if you couldn't 
>tell.

Peggy, 

Go to your favorite baby-supply store.  Bring a teddy bear.  Make your
husband put the teddy bear into a playpen ten times.  Then have him
try the same thing on a crib.  I think he'll see the point.   Playpens
for kids who can't stand up are HARD on the back!

Some kids are climbers; they'll make it out of playpens, baby gates,
you name it.  Others never try to escape.  If your child turns out
to be a miniature Houdini, you can buy a net-mesh tent that clips
to the top of the crib and keeps him/her in confinement.  (I'm
pretty sure the Right Start catalog carries this.)


On the subject of cribs:  We bought the bottom-of-the line model
Evenflo in white paint.  No knobs, no fancy features.  We paid well
under $200.00.  It's done just fine by us.  It has slats on all
sides at the appropriate spacings.

Important points to test in the store:  

Can you drop the side one-handed?  Many of the convertable
crib-toddler beds have special switches that take two
hands to operate.  *Not* very useful when you have an
armful of baby.  (In practice, we never drop the side;
but it's nice to have a choice.)

Does the "convertable" crib cost more than buying the
equivalent furniture (crib, twin bed, chest of drawers)
separately?  They did when we were looking; furthermore,
the "twin bed" the crib converted into took a non-standard
size of sheet that could be bought only from the manufacturer.
                                
Candidly, I think nursery supplies are GROSSLY overpriced
because the manufacturers know they've got you in a
vulnerable (and sentimental) state.  Don't play into
their hands any more than you can help.  The baby won't care whether
she's sleeping in mahogany posters and lace cutwork or a cardboard box
lined with clean diapers.
-- 
Betsy Hanes Perry   (note P in userid)     betsyp@apollo.hp.com
Hewlett-Packard Company
"It seems to us that the readers who want fiction to be like life are
considerably outnumbered by those who would like life to be like fiction."
From: darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: 2 kids + hand-me-down toys = trouble
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:34:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, Davis

Well, the subject says it. Some of our Brendan's (6) old toys have
been handed down to Sean (2), and there is occasional squabbling
over them. We try to follow a policy in our house of having each
toy have a definitive owner who has "rights of possession" (i.e.,
can ask for it back any time). But with the hand-me-down toys it's
really hard for Brendan to understand a change of "ownership". 

Should we (a) explain to Brendan that these toys now belong to Sean
and Sean "owns" them, (b) avoid the whole issue from now on by
giving Brendan's old toys away instead of handing them down, or
(c) doing something else?

Brendan is sometimes pretty good about understanding that he's
outgrown something, but other times he really gripes. 

So here's a bonus cute story. One of the aforementioned squabbles
happened last week, and both kids were in tears at one point. I told
them that I wasn't getting involved, that they had to solve this on
their own.

About 10 minutes later, I was in the bathroom shaving when both kids,
with great ceremony, marched in and Brendan announced, "Dad, we
worked out a fair deal." 

They're learning!

Richard
Xref: sparky misc.kids:23125 rec.arts.startrek.current:12932
From: judyd@aspen.CNA.TEK.COM (Judy E. Drake)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Names
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:24:27 GMT
Followup-To: misc.kids
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Redmond,  OR.

In article <1992Sep11.124647.16730@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> adamson@grok65.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Ann Adamson) writes:
>
>Along these lines, I am at 23 weeks and just recently had an ultrasound
>that said I was "probably" having a boy.  But just in case, we need to pick
>a name for a girl too.  The name I really like for a little girl is Jordan.
>Now, this seems to be a real love-hate thing with most people...about half
>love it and the other half say "but that's a boy's name!"  My brother 
>absolutely HATES it.
>
>Anyway, any advice from people with cross-gender names or children who have
>them?  Does this end up being a real pain or do most people like it?

Well, I already posted about my kids' names, but I have to answer this!
My son is named Jordan, and when we picked out the name we didn't know
the sex of the baby.  We decided to use Jordan for either a boy or a girl.
I love the name, and would have liked it equally well for a girl.

My daughter's name is Austin, and since she's eight months old and wears
her brother's hand-me-downs, most people think she's a boy.  This doesn't
bother me, because I'm sure that at some point in her life it will become
obvious that she's a girl.  (I think it is already, but then I'm her 
mother ;^)  I originally wanted to name her Austen, after one of my 
favorite writers, Jane Austen, but my husband convinced me to use the 
more common spelling of the name, just so she won't have her name misspelled 
all her life.  People are generally surprised that we named a girl Austin, 
but I like it and I hope she does too later on.  However, even after she's
grown up, I'm sure she'll always get mail addressed to Mr. Austin Hill,
and people will assume she's a man upon hearing her name, but these are
minor irritations.

Judy Drake
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: wilsonk@infonode.ingr.com (Keith Wilson)
Subject: BOTTLE WEENING
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:34:03 GMT


If you have FAQ, would you please send them or post them.

Ditto for potty training.

wilsonk@infonode.ingr.com	(or)	wilsonka@c6401.b30.ingr.com
From: sb3t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Shirl G. Grant)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Warning kids about strangers?
Date: 9 Sep 1992 10:01:31 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
X-Unparseable-Date: Wed,  9 Sep 1992 10:48:40 -0400 (EDT)

I have not yet reached this stage with my own kids, but have talked with
young children on a couple of occasions.  When they asked why someone
would take them, I respond with "Well, some people love children very
much, but for some reason have never been able to have their own. 
Sometimes they want children so bad that they kind of get crazy, and
they take someone elses.  It's really sad, you know.  [Your
parents|we|whomever] are so lucky to have you".  This takes away some of
the fear, and replaces it with a little bit of understanding.

I don't think I would present the touching at the same time, because
touching involves everyone, not just strangers.

Good luck,
-Shirl
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: judy@locus.com (Judy Leedom Tyrer)
Subject: Re: Stitches
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 22:11:22 GMT

Wow!  With all these horror stories I think a more positive view is needed.
First, we have a place called "Prompt Care" which is about 15 minutes away 
and affiliated with the local teaching hospital.  They are a walk-in clinic
open 8AM to 8PM 7 days a week.  Our longest wait ever has been about 15 
minutes (and that was me with a bladder infection).  They have a great play
house for the kids (hard to get them to go into the room or home).  The prices
are less than the ER and they are fully equipped for the kinds of problems
that wander in such as broken bones, cuts requiring stitches, etc.  

Mitchell's first stitches were on the day we moved into our new house (our
neighbor told us where to go) when he cut his finger open.  He was fascinated
by the doctor and was upset when he wasn't allowed to watch them sew his
finger back together.  We did let him see the stitches before they put the
bandage on.  I was amazed at how much care this 2.5 year old took of that
injured finger.  He was SO brave.

The second set of stitches were in his chin.  This time we went to our
pediatrician and waited almost an hour.  We vowed always to go to Prompt
Care for stitches or minor medical emergencies as they are just plain faster.
Again he was brave, though the wait irritated him.

The third time was back at Prompt Care when he fell and bit his tongue 
nearly in half.  He was so excited when the doctor said that tongues heal
really fast and he didn't need stitches that he lept off the examining 
table.  I will always remember that doctor.  He said, "Well, see you in a
couple of months" :-)

Moral:  BEFORE an emergency happens, find out where to take your children
where they won't have to wait for hours.  Places do exist.

-- 
Judy Leedom Tyrer

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"	- William Blake
From: sj@silma.com (Suzanne)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: bottles with silicone nipples
Date: 12 Sep 92 01:08:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Silma Inc

Anyone know where I can get bottles with clear silicone nipples
(as opposed to brown latex ones)?

Toys R Us no longer carries them.

I'm looking for the kind like the Playtex one - where you put
a "disposable bottle" (i.e., plastic bag) inside.
From: petersm@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Marguerite Petersen)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Names
Date: 12 Sep 92 02:21:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: leela.1992Sep12.022137.7743
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

In article <TIGGER.92Sep11124038@satyr.Sylvan.COM> tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Grace Sylvan) writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.114938.17576@linus.mitre.org> m13079@mwunix (Mary Anne Walters) writes:
>
>   It must be the Italian blood -- they all want little
>   Guiseppie's or Remmiggio's or Pasquale's.  It may have gone with
>   Melchiori or Guglielmo, but none of them go with such a white-bread
>   name as WALTERS.  <sigh>  We will probably do what we did last time --
>   wait till the birth and see what the baby "looks" like then decide!
>
>We waited until after the birth to name our kids. Katherine had a name
>the first day, though. Robin, well, he was such a quiet little guy
>(alert, but very very calm) it took us days to find a name. I called
>him 'Buddy' for those first days, and I still use it as a nickname.
>-- 
>
>Tigger (Grace Sylvan)                Mom of Katherine Yelena, 8/8/89 &
>tigger@satyr.sylvan.com              Robin Gregory born 2/28/92

This thread is not relevant to Star Trek.  The original article should not
have been posted to rec.arts.startrek.current in the first place as that
newsgroup is for discussion of episodes or novels that are recent.  
Rec.arts.startrek.misc *might* have been a better place for the original
question regarding naming a child "Geordie".  

Please remove rec.arts.startrek.current from the header when responding
to this thread.

Thank you.

Marg
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Family Bed
From: atz@clmqt.marquette.MI.US (Jeff)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:55:13 EDT

In <4SEP199223055167@trentu.ca> bwolfe@trentu.ca (BEN WOLFE) writes:


>Is there any reason for not recommending a family bed? I don't particularly
>like sleeping over a plastic sheet. That's about it, and I guess we'd
>probably have to have it there anyway since the kids would often come in
>with us regardless. I've often been disappointed at not being able to\
>cuddle up with my wife because there's a kid in between us, but at this
>stage that's usually my fault. I work very late some nights and by the time
>I join the crew in bed I get whatever space is left, if any. (In general 

>our king sixe bed (72" x 80") is quite adequate for four. It was the best
>birthday present we could have got for Emma, and we've always been thrilled
>with it. It cost $400 Canadian, including the frame.)

>Is any of this really so unusual? Or *controversial*?


I think if the child at 1 year old is 'jumping in bed' with ya, 
then great!  But we occasionally have had our 2 year old sleep 
with us, and it doesn't seem to be a big deal.  We more frequently 
let him NAP in our bed, so I think the curiosity of 'the bed' is 
gone with him...  I thought at first that it might confuse him 
when waking up, and I also feared then that he would want to sleep 
in our bed more, but it seemed to have the opposite effect.

Now all he is worried about is his pillow