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From: wogg0743@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William Shakespeare)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: LSH: Evacuating the Earth
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:21:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxBI7H.8wL
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

The failure to totally evac the earth was just stupid.  They had two
healthy Daxamites and one recouping one at their disposal, plus a
pseudo Daxamite (Jo Nah).  Valor (ick--Mon El) can move Neutron stars.
All they have to do is super-speed build arks, load 'em, and have the
Daxamites lift them into orbit.

Or at least have the Daxamites move the "new earth" space thing, rather
than shoving it into the phantom zone (oops, I mean ?@#$@? buffer zone).

If L.E.G.I.O.N can evac a planet, then the legion should be able to also.
This is just bad writing.

Also, where was Element Lad?  It seems to me, if you have a toxic waste
problem that....

Nah, it's not worth wasting the neurons contemplating the stupidity of
recent LSH events.  I hope they find better writers.  Strike that:  I
hope they find WRITERS.  What they have now don't qualify.


-- 
William ("Shakespeare") Gulstad          /  So where are the C.S. babes?
wogg0743@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu                /  Joni Mitchell for President!
I vote, so I can complain!               /  Did you vote?  Then don't complain!
Republican is the opposite of democracy! /  Tune in, drop out, log on.
From: vpillai@vms.ucc.okstate.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: PHILISTIN TEMPLE of DRAGON +_+_+_+_+_
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:59:58 GMT
Organization: Oklahoma State University Computer Center

hi
	Can anyone help me in answering this question
	
	Who distroyed PHILISTIN TEMPLE of DRAGON at GAZA ?

	Thanking in advance for your reply

	VELU PILLAI
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From: cornwall@bach.udel.edu (Ray J Cornwall)
Subject: Re: Hulk
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:18:52 GMT

In article <69098@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>
>Of course, if the mind starts to splinter again, well...

Peter, I loved Hulk 400. Though I doubt this will be the last Leader
story, as you claim, this would have been a great way for him to go.
The number of loose ends tied up, plus the re-introduction of Savage
Hulk is great.
One problem: How can the Hulk go on fighting super bad guys now? He's
proven that his anger can cause him to kill the ones he loves. If this
book had any basis of reality, they'd have Hulk take an issue off from
fighing to fix up his relationship with Betty (like she's gonna be
happy about what Hulk did to Marlo's chance of a new life...)
Just my .02 cents...
Ray
U of D
From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman #44 Redux (SPOILERS)
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:37:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxBrA0.C7y
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

ross@BofA.COM (Ross Lefstin) writes:

>NO WAIT... its Lobo ensuring his place as the new Destruction...


I thought about that.  He's got the right colouring.....
Still, he's mroe the hands on (or rather, hands ripping through clean to the
other side and twisting) type when it comes to killing.


Lady Johanna Constantine
Possibly the only female in the world who found Lobo incredibly funny.....
-- 
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From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: Sandman: These Four Immortals...
Organization: Geographically Illiterate Squids of the Poor
Distribution: world 
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:06:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.151245.29142@linus.mitre.org> ptrei@bistromath.mitre.org (Peter Trei) writes:
>In article <lsmith.721353905@femto> lsmith@femto.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
>
>>FWIW, Tyburn tree was an elm near the banks of the Thames. Supposedly
>>there's a section of London named after it.
>
>     Where did you get this? Tyburn was the site of the London
>gallows. It's now Speaker's Corner, at the the northeast corner of
>Hyde Park. This is at least a mile, maybe two, from the Thames. I
>don't think you'll find any neighbourhood named after it either, for
>obvious reasons (it is close to Mayfair, though).

And here I thought St Gildas was watching over me...

That should be Tyburn (thus the name) and not Thames. Don't know why
I typed it. (BTW, to Preach at Tyburn Cross was a euphemism for being
hanged. Interesting take on Speaker's Corner.)

Not sure of the bit on the section of London. My source is questionable.
Perhaps confused with Tyburnia. 

This will teach me to add sniglets at the end of long articles.
--
  Lance "Cr2O3.2H2O" Smith | "He is an aristocrat and a peanut. Citizen 
    (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)    |  St Just says that is enough to warrant his 
    Reynard and Tybert's   |  death. I do not wish to argue with St Just."
        Biggest Fan        |             _Mr Peanut and the Reign of Terror_
From: yingst@milori.ccit.arizona.edu (JIM YINGST)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Watchmen ftp site?
Keywords: watchmen
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:16:00 GMT
Distribution: na,local
Organization: University of Arizona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

So - can anyone out there tell me if there is still a Watchmen ftp site of some
sort out there, and if so, where is it?  Send e-mail, if you please.  Thanks!

Jim Yingst	yingst@ccit.arizona.edu
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From: panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden)
Subject: Re: Sandman #44 Redux (SPOILERS)
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 13:09:06 EST

dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes:

> In article <1992Nov6.024131.3127@BofA.com> ross@BofA.COM (Ross Lefstin) write
> >My contribution to the great 'Who shot Bernie Capax' debate.
> 
> Nice ideas, one and all, but given what else is happening in DC these
> weeks, I think the idea is obvious:
> 
> Doomsday killed Bernie Capax. Just knocked that darn building right over
> on top of him.
> -- 

Right.  And his name begins with "D".

Namaste,
Elizabeth

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From: mdp2842@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Perler)
Subject: Re: Bloodwynd is . . . .
Originator: mdp2842@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:47:28 GMT

In article <92315.163238JMC162@psuvm.psu.edu> <JMC162@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>1)  Red Tornado
>2)  Firestorm
>3)  Jo'nn

Wasn't Captain Atom a possibility being tossed around on the net? Personally,
I'd rather see Bloodwynd be him, as it makes the most sense to me. But I
think he will actually be J'onn.

Mike P.
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From: mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Killans - First And Last And Always)
Subject: Re: Warheads: Opinions?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 19:51:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.033053.17969@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> sdt8s@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson) writes:
>
>If you've read it, you must have some. Please share them with
>me.
>
Well, I've been reading the versions printed in the Marvel Uk magazine
Overkill (ie without the Marvel superhero crossover bits in, at least until
recently when they started printing the whole thing), and as far as I am
concerned it's the worst of the Marvel UK titles. Basically, a team of
testosterone-enhanced (including the females :-) ) paramilitary types with
Big Guns (TM) appear on some new bizarre planet/dimension, shoot things and
then teleport back to Earth. It's the sort of thing which 2000AD does *much*
better and with a lot more humour. Personally, I wouldn't bother with it.

Mike
From: akhale@pollux.usc.edu (Abhijit Khale)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Hellblazer TPB (not GN)
Date: 5 Nov 1992 10:56:35 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu


>From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)

>Heck, I'm willing to do a list of John Constantine's Living Friends right
>now:
>
>-Chas
>-Kit
>There, that was easy, wunnit? :-)
>And, oh yeah... Merc.


How about his sister and niece ? And Zatanna ? I think they would count as
friends/close relatives. 

Oh, one more point. A Graphic Novel is a new story. A Trade Paperback is a 
collection of reprints. This collection is a TPB, not a GN. Sorry to sound so
anally retentive, but it is disappointing to read Hellblazer GN in a news
header and then learn that its only the TPB under discussion rather than a new
(hitherto) unpublished story. 

Abhijit
From: friedman@ganymede.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark "Crimson" Friedman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Image Plots (waz: Who should join Image)
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:31:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: cis.1992Nov6.233113.18004
Organization: NAIVE - New And Improved Virtual Environment

In article <BxBEH5.70u@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mlj44080@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael Lee Jacobs) writes:
] [Image] plots are (once agagin except for Spawn) trying to do too much
] at once...if you are making a limited series then follow ONE or so
] plotlines and tell a story.

Perhaps one of the reasons for this trend might be the number of
"team" books that Image has produced as of late: your plotlines are of
course proportional to the number of characters you support.

Conversely, Spawn and Savage Dragon (for example) are centered mainly
around one major personal crisis/conflict at a time.

Like, too many cooks, eh?

							- Mark

'Course, Shadowgoob (errr, whatever) still looks lame by his lonesome...

-- 
Mark "Klone Crimson" Friedman is friedman@cis.ohio-state.edu .................
"There is nothing former "Beat poets,   "Bite me,  "My jacket! I killed
 about King Crimson."     not children." it's fun!" Kennedy in this jacket!"
 - Robert Fripp, 5/11/90   - anonymous    - MST3K     - Ron Post
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From: a905576@tiuk.ti.com (David Pardoe          (0013 spif))
Subject: Re: 2099
Reply-To: a905576@tiuk.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments Ltd.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:57:57 GMT

In article 1dc05uINNc41@uwm.edu, justice@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael John Stiehl) writes:
>	2. Fantastic Four 2099:  I think finding out what happens to Franklin
>	Richards in the future would be interesting.  Plus it would be an all
>	new cast.  The possiblities are endless. (As long as DeFalco has nothing
>	to do with it.)

The current thinking behind the 2099 line is that we wouldn't find out the futures
of present-day characters. But I'd like to see an FF 2099, prefereably as (unpowered)
troubleshooters for the Richards' Rocket Group (one of the smaller of the big 
corporations), something along the lines of What if the FF didn't have sooper-powers?

David
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From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (Michael R Escutia)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Pearson Artwork (leaving LSH)
Date: 9 Nov 1992 22:24:28 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu
Keywords: Jason Pearson, LSH

In article <1992Nov9.205546.11684@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> billian@mixer.ecn.purdue.edu (Mark W. Billian) writes:
>Jason Person recently did a pin-up which appeared in the back of Spawn.
>I was wondering if his abrupt departure signalled a move to the Image fold.
>
>He also did an Injustice Leage story which appeared in JLIQ #3(?).

#4, actually.  Great story, too.  Maybe he's doing an IJL book...I'd read it 
if the same writers--Will Jacobs and Gerard Jones are doing it with Pearson.
				--MikE (Not-as-big Sir)

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From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Commercials in Comics (was Re: WHERE ARE ALL THE SEA MONKEYS???)
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:07:59 GMT

kllove@wildcat.ecn.uoknor.edu (Kenneth L Love) writes:
>joak@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jonathan A. Kung) writes:
>>Ha, what memories you've caused to surface in the festering boil I call
>>my brain!  I don't know about you, but I recall with great fondness those
>>ads for X-ray specs (that I never ordered), the fake barf (or is it?!?),
>>sea monkeys (I heard they're extinct, except for a group of survivalists
>>holed up in Atlantis), the secrets of hypnosis, those Roman legion army
>>figures (I used to stick tape on them to catch the ink because I liked
>>the way the guys looked shouting), etc, etc.

>A "Whatever happened to..." story about Atlas appeared in a Doom Patrol
>issue.  Or so I've been told, haven't seen it and can't find it. :-(

I'm glad I found this!  I just got my Johnson Smith catalog last week.
All this stuff, and more is in here.  Everything strange or bizarre
that you might concieve is in here.  I don't have the catalog with me,
but I can dig it up at home and post the number.
-- 
If the ship is not sinking, the rats must be the ones not leaving.
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From: lewandow@floss.cs.wisc.edu (Gary Lewandowski [TSoD])
Subject: Re: Hulk
Organization:  GaTEA, Slug Division
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:40:45 GMT

In <1dc712INNcj4@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mikecap@fledgling.WPI.EDU (Michael Vince Caprio Jr) writes:


>The thing is, the reason why Bruse changed forms was because he suffered from 
>a MPD, more commonly known as a split personality - this manifested itself in
>three (although four were hinted at) different forms:  The Green Hulk was
>Banner's childlike emotional self (And I'm not sure but I also believe PAD
>related the three forms to Id, Ego, and SuperEgo.  PAD? any comment?), the 
>Grey Hulk his adolescent "boorish" hormonal self, and Banner as the core
>identity.  

Of course, there's also the savage Hulk that we haven't seen in a while.
I don't think any of these personalities encompass that one.  I suspect
that we will see it again though.  (Didn't Samson's notes in 393 say
something about it?)

-- 
Gary Lewandowski             gary@cs.wisc.edu              Theory Slug of Doom
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: PETER DAVID vs. DAVID PETERS (was Re: Wild Cards author question)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 06:39:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.232245.28251@twg.com> rwalls@twg.com (Roger Walls) writes:
>In article <1992Oct30.225222.11706@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> 2013bp@gmuvax2.gmu.edu ( ) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct19.152209.20183@zip.eecs.umich.edu> maser@engin.umich.edu (Steven Michael Maser) writes:
>>>Is "Walton Simons" really "Walt Simonson"?  And, if so, why does he
>>>use the pseudonym?
>>>
>>You know, I never thought of that (never really LOOKED), but I suppose
>>if it was him, he did it because he wanted to be a writer, not a comic
>>book writer. (I understand Peter David does the same thing)
>>
>>Bill
>
>
>Peter David does not always use a pseudonym (if ever) because I recently
>saw a Star Trek the next generation book by Peter David. Browsing on the

PAD wrote under the pseeudonym David Peters for the PSI-MAN series (lots of fun)
and the PHOTON series (haven't found them yet >sigh<) .  According to PAD, the 
editor of the books thought the false name would be good for marketing reasons
(or some such--he said this last spring).  As I recall, he didn't really 
understand the reasonings either.

BTW PAD, will we ever see PSI-MAN #7?

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From: ast2r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Andrew Symons Troth)
Subject: Re: LSH: Evacuating the Earth
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 00:53:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.073714.25114@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:
>In article <1dfke7INN8b0@pollux.usc.edu> akhale@pollux.usc.edu (Abhijit Khale) writes:
>>T & M are not the
>>first DC writers to use bogus science, nor will they be the last, nor are they
>>even the most egregious. Anyone remember Superman blowing out a star with his
>>super breath ? Anyone remember the Gordanians towing Earth out of orbit ? 
>>Anyone remember Mon-el bringing a white dwarf star to Earth ? Anyone remember
>>Color Kid changing Green K into Blue K by changing the color ? Anyone remember
>>Superman moving Earth to protect it from being hit by a laser beam ? Anyone
>>remember the Persuader's using his axe to cut gravity ? 
>>
>>Of course, merely the fact that past or other writers have used bad science
>>doesnt justify doing it in legion. ...
>
>But not only that, it proves exactly the wrong thing.  You can't very well
>argue that Daxamites can't move the city collection because they'd have to
>hold it at one end and it'd fall apart, while referencing such gems of comic
>book physics as towing the Earth or moving it away from laser beams....
>--
>Ken Arromdee (UUCP: ....!jhunix!arromdee; BITNET: arromdee@jhuvm;
>     INTERNET: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)

So you're CRITICIZING Tom & Mary for writing a more scientifically 
plausible story than those past groaners? Those old stories, IMHO, are
notby any means "gems": they're the most egregious flaws that point out
why comic books are viewed as silly! For instance, Mon-El's bringing that
White Dwarf star to Brainy's lab was such a blatant and obvious 
impossibility that it completely destroyed any credibility that that whole
storyline had for me. It was painful to read.
	Obviously I'm not asking for comics (especially sf-type comics like
Legion) to become scientifically accurate, or even close thereto. The trick
is to stay within the possible suspension of disbelief. The fact that 
previous writers have utterly failed in that task should not open the 
Bierbaums to criticism for succeeding.          

--AST

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From: jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey)
Subject: Re: New JUSTICE LEAGUES -- Have We Determined Whether We Like It Or Not?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 18:54:07 GMT

In article <Nov.11.10.58.36.1992.15300@gandalf.rutgers.edu> cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt) writes:

>
>JLE, on the other hand, is a consistent good read.  The Deconstructo story was
>so-so (except for the nasty comment on Deconstructionism, which was very
>funny), but it was nice to see Amos Fortune again (with characterization right
>out of JLofA #6).  In fact, it's the characterization that keeps me reading
>JLE.
>

	Interesting,  I really liked the Deconstructo story--  precisely
because of its humorous and pointed cheap shot on deconstruction--  but thought
that the Amos Fortune story was dull, real dull.  To each his (or her) own,
I guess.  
	What I like most about the new JLE, I think, is the pseudo-intellectual
character that the stories are taking:  having a deconstructionist super-
villain, having Metamorpho discourse on the Apollonian and the Dionysian, etc.
(It's a real pity, though, that the writers mistakenly called deconstruction
"deconstructionism" in #37--  if they're trying to give the comic book an
intellectual air, they should really do they're homework and get the 
terminology right.)
	Perhaps my favorite moment in the post-Breakdowns JLE had been the
opening page of #37, where Power Girl is trying on her new costrume.  In a
state of partial undress, she looks accusingly towards the reader, and asks
nastily, "What are you looking at?"  You turn the page, and find that her
comment was actually addressed to Elongated Man, who was looking in at her
from the hallway.  But still, I thought that the first page, where she 
accuses the reader of staring at her and confronts the (presumably male) 
reader with his own voyeurism, was brilliant.


	--  Jim C. <jchokey@leland.stanford.edu>

	
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From: lf7z@ellis.uchicago.edu (Glennhawk)
Subject: Re: Chicago area residents - HELP!
Reply-To: lf7z@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:27:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.002839.6068@news2.cis.umn.edu> lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.220023.7294@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> rsanders@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Robert Sanders) writes:
>
>>HELP!  In this weeks Comics Buyer's Guide, I saw an ad that
>>said Neil Gaiman was going to be at Moondog's in Chicago on
>>Saturday, and they were going to be premiering a new     
>>24-hour comic that he has written (I can't remember the name -
>>but it was pretty long...BUT I digress)
>
>It's the 24-hour comic that appeared in the back of Cerebus. Moondoggie's 
>is selling those roughed out editions. (Ash Cans? What are those things
>called?) 

If this is what I'm thinking of, it was Scott McCloud's brainchild,
and he ("A Day's Work"), and Eastman ("Fuck the Dead"), Bissette ("A
Life in Black & White"), Sim ("Bigger Blacker Kiss") and Gaiman (of
course I forget this one) all did these things, the challenge was to
do it in 24 hours, writing and drawing.  Veitch weenied out and did
"Rare Bit Fiends" instead <snicker, far cry from 24 hrs., eh?>.  From
his description of these things (which was where I heard about them)
I'm surprised any of them are being made public, including "Rare Bit"
:^)

They sound pretty pricey or of course I'd buy one for each and every
one of you :^) And if you believe that, there's some land in the
southern parishes.....

Pax ex machina,
Glenn
......................................................................
"Dave's pissing and moaining.  Nothing makes him happy."
   --- Rare Bit Fiends
g-carnagey@uchicago.edu
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