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From: jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT)
Subject: Re: Picard's mistake
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 06:53:40 GMT

>>>	Does anyone know what that big mistake was ?????

[Insert Discussion on Pakleds "Samariten Snare" and Heart of Picard]

>Somehow, I don't think so.  When I first watched First Duty, I thought
>that this might be the case, too.  However, one comment that the
>groundskeeper makes doesn't follow with the bar fight scenario.  The
>groundskeeper makes a reference to "You knew what you had to say/do.
>You just needed a little push..." or something along those lines.  At
>the bar, I think it was clear who was at fault.  I kind of get the
>feeling that Piccard was sorrta like Wes in his academy days and was
>trying something (possilby illegal) that got him in trouble.  Of course,
>this is just MHO.

Hmm, I agree with the later post!  I think that the heart incident was a
different story, both of which are very interesting.  I, too, am interested
in finding out more about Picard's past.  I haven't seen ANYTHING in the
show that illuminates his situation, are there any books out there that do?
Both the heart incident AND his "Mistake" at the academy are fascinating!
Any and all replies are welcome.
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From: cortese@skid.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese)
Subject: Re: "The VISION"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 21 Aug 92 03:06:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.010015.8788@tronsbox.xei.com> dfrancis@tronsbox.xei.com (Dennis Heffernan) writes:
>In article <93338@bu.edu> kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar) writes:
>|I find it rather interesting that people can suspend disbelief and
>|really see us evolving technology to warp drives and transporters, but
>|can't see humans evolving culturally into a society like that
>|portrayed in ST.
>|
>	Human nature has not changed one whit in over 4000 years of recorded
>history, so there is little reason to believe that it's going to warp itself
>in the next 400.

Oh, really?  Pick up and actually READ some books on VERY old culture.
Believe me, things have changed -- and in only the last thousand.  Five
hundred years ago, I would have been burnt like bacon at the stake for
being a scientist and a female.  My SO's mom is an astrologer -- same
thing.  I know some people who openly follow Wicca.  Same thing.

Trust me, although there are some constancies, somer things HAVE
changed.

>	On the other hand, we've seen more technological progress in the last
>few decades than in the entirety of previous history.  It's pretty easy to
>believe in ultra-technological geegaws, but you have to believe in miracles
>to think that people aren't going to be the same 400 years from now.

Or are going to believe in miracles.  I'm serious -- read up on some
pre-classical history and archaeology, and some medieval history.  Some
things change, some stay the same.

Regards,
Janis C.
From: hinson@maxwell.physics.purdue.edu (Jason W. Hinson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Warp Scale (was star trek vi: the und)
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:16:25 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department

In article <1992Aug10.133853.620@sunova.ssc.gov> haaser@quince.ssc.gov (Bobby Haaser) writes:
<
<To Jason on the other side of Physics,
<
<am I to suppose that you don't like WORMHOLES either,,,
<
<because they work on the same principal but on an exponentially
<larger scale.
<
<Are they just as seemingly anomalous to you if you assume relativity?

First: In comming up with the equations that define Wormholes, a particular
theory in Quatum Mechanics is violated.  (It is not certant that that theory
is correct, but there is more evidence for it than there is for Wormholes).

Secondly: Wormholes DO HAVE THEIR BACWARDS TIME TRAVEL PROBLEMS!

If you haven't read the post I gave in the r.a.s.tech group explaining the
general causaltiy violating problem, you might want to take a look at it.
If anyone missed it and would like to see it, I can send you a copy...

-Jay
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From: avik@icase.edu (Avik Banerjee)
Subject: Re: Female Borg???
Organization: ICASE/NASA Langley
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:21:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.150606.7756@hubcap.clemson.edu>, hubcap@hubcap.clemson.edu (System Janitor) writes:
>
>Sex is irrelevant.
>
>-Mike

you own alot of cats dont you.

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From: ahummel@ems.cdc.com (H. Austin Hummel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Strong Women
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:08:36 GMT
Reply-To: you@ems.cdc.com
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

In article <66118@hydra.gatech.EDU>, ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug12.175600.1165@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> pcp2g@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Gilligan) writes:
|> 
|> >Tasha's *character* is excellent; the actor was bad. 
|> 
|> >Shelby
|> >The actor was good, too, and I would like to see her return.
|> 
|> >Ro
|> >The actor is a bit stiff, but that may wear off with time
|> 
|> OK, what's the deal????
|> 
|> Are women no longered referred to as *actress*????  Is this the newest
|> PC fad?  I can't believe it was a typo when you said actor referring
|> to a women three times in the same post.
|> 
|> What's going on?  Am I the last to know?

With the sexual destructure, Mailman is mailperson, etc
Actors and Actresses decided that the word actress was a dimutive
and implies a person not to skilled and/or EXPENSIVE. To equate the
male and female as one highly skilled people the term actor is applied
to anyone that acts.
From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Rumor has it....
Date: 15 Aug 92 22:57:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <92226.195911JRHOADS@auvm.american.edu>, JRHOADS@auvm.american.edu (Jill Rhoads) writes...
>From what I've heard here in DC which has a really odd situation in showing the
> Next Generation.  Creation may be own by Paramount because I know that only
> the Paramount station here is allowed to show it.  Apparently, Paramount might
> either own it or have an exclusive first dibbs right on the show.  I remember
>this being explained to me at a convention when us non-cable ppl were
>complaining about not getting in the station for a while.  The person that told
> us this info went on to say that in areas where there isn't a Paramount
>station that other stations can bid for it.  Other than this info, I don't know
> much more.

     What???  I'm not sure what you think you're talking about but the
     original author of this threat wanted to kmnow of Paramount owned
     Creation Conventions.  
     The answer is unmitigatidly, unanimously, no-room-for-dissension NO.
     Creation DOES NOT produce STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION, as the
     lucid parts of this article seem to suggest; Creation does produce
     STAR TREK _Conventions_.  But that's it.
     As for syndicate, STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION can be put on-air
     by any station willing to pay for it.  This includes the big-three
     networks ABC, NBC, CBS (though I don't think any of the three or
     their affiliates show it), FOX (where it airs in much of the country
     and Canada), and independant stations, such as WPIX-New York, where
     the Manhattan area gets the show.  
     Paramount may be about to bring on-line a Paramount-block and introduce
     new terms into the syndicate arrangement, to wit that stations cannot
     syndicate TNG without also syndicating DS9 and espeically THE NEW
     UNTOUCHABLES.  Arsenio, and a projected (though far from certain)
     first-run syndication year of CHEERS (if NBC refuses to pay Paramounts
     through-the-roof price per episode for the show next year), and
     ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT, all could be part of the Paramount-block.
     It has been speculated that Paramount may be regaining interest,
     under Brandon Tartikoff, of starting a FIFTH NETWORK (Warner
     Bros is also interested in starting a new tv net).  (Par nearly
     launched PBC in the mid-seventies, with STAR TREK PHASE II as its
     staple...).
     This has been a couple-hundred words of interest to almost nobody...
From: mac7@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael A. Chary)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Why Klingons lose?
Date: 21 Aug 92 02:47:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


The main reason Klingons lose is their slogan:  "It is a good day to die!"
Most successful warrior races have as their slogan:
"It is a good day for my opponent to die, preferably quickly and with
a minimum of fuss ahnd effort on my part."
That's my feeling anyway.
-- 
"Ipsa scientia potestas est."
             -Roger Bacon
"The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with
the average voter." -Winston Churchill
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From: herd@lut.fi (Markku Herd)
Subject: Re: 25 anniversary game h
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:55:14 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland

"bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.Com> Writes:
Give This A Try:

>>Base 10:        Base 3:
>>0               0
>>1               1
>>2               2
>>3               10
>>4               11
>>5               12
>>6               20
>>7               21
>>...             ...

  Why Should One Do It In such a difficult way? Simply ask the
Enterprise's computer about base 3, and the answer is in front of
your eyes.

- Markku Herd ( herd@lut.fi )
Organization: Mythos/Xcalbrin Inc.
X-School: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:57:52 EDT
From: stacey bronstein <SMB128@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Any new episode spoilers/news/rumours?

I have heard rumors to the effect of "picard will die to save data"...is it
true? *gasp*...say it ain't so....


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The opinions expressed above do not reflect those of Penn State...
                                 but they should...

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From: schamber@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (CHAMBERLAND S - BIOLOGY)
Subject: Re: BABYLON 5: Rest of the Casting, First day of filming
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:10:23 GMT

In article <landrews.03a2@wiz.outb.wimsey.bc.ca> landrews@wiz.outb.wimsey.bc.ca (Luke Andrews) writes:
>>>What I'd REALLY like to know is how folks in Canada are gonna be able to
>>>see this show when it does go on the air.
>>
>>How about a group to buy a satellite dish???    ;-)
>>
>>I know one of my friends is crazy enough to buy one just for bab 5 and ds 9...
>
>Am I missing something?  I'm sure that SOME station will pick it up.  We get TNG on a station affiliated with FOX based in Washington.

You are...  did you read the babylon 5 FAQ list?

Contrary to ST:TNG, Babylon 5 is NOT a syndicated show. Warner wants to
form its own network. So I guess all stations up to now which were
picked by Warner are independant. So ABC, CBS, NBC or FOX stations are not
eligible to present Babylon 5, being already part of existing networks.

Well, since CTV and Global are already presenting shows from NBC, CBS, ABC
or FOX, maybe we'll be lucky enough to see Babylon 5...

I now know it's not my problem anymore. I just dicovered that I get
WSBK Boston on a pay channel here in the Toronto area...  :-)
(and it's part of the Warner consortium)

BTW, there's a station in Seattle which will present Bab 5... are you near
enough to pick it?

>  |_ucky |_uke/*/Luke Andrews
>=-----------------------------=
>landrews@wiz.outb.wimsey.bc.ca.

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University of Waterloo  |          - Worf, Star Trek The Next Generation
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From: bbarber@sierra.com (Bryan Barber)
Subject: Three Stooges
Organization: Sierra Geophysics, North Dallas Technology Ctr.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:35:40 GMT

I think it's pretty clear that there is a Star Trek - Three Stooges
connection. I just watched "The Perfect Mate" (TNG) and "A Taste of 
Armegeddon" (TOS) back to back. Scotty's haircut in "A Taste..." made
him look just like Moe, and the ambassador in "The Perfect Mate" had 
hair just like Larry's. Now, who could be Curly....

Bryan "a wise guy" Barber
-- 
Bryan Barber  |"He's bread, Jim." - McCoy after a tragic transporter accident
              |                     while visiting planet Pillsbury.
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From: eraitala@nyx.cs.du.edu (eric aitala)
Subject: Question about TOS
Keywords:  TOS
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 06:05:00 GMT

Hi folks,

	Here's a question for ya'll.  The Enterprise's mission under James Kirk was supposed to last five years.  Using the episodes from TOS and TAS, as well  as the novels, can anyone tell me how much of that time has been accounted for.
I realize the novels are not canon and some are not from the five year mission, but I am still curious whether or not that time limit has been exceeded.
{sort of like how M*A*S*H ran for eleven years and the Korean War was only four
or five years long}

--
Eric Aitala
University of Mississippi
High Energy Physics
Home of CREMF
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From: jereese@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (jean reese)
Subject: Re: Season Premiere - Wesley marries Beverly, names kid Oedipus
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:57:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.172643.15113@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis) writes:
>In article <6066@npri6.npri.com> murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy) writes:
>>come on, everybody play along!
>>just make up a goofy idea for the new season (the more ludicrous, the better)
>>and forget about those silly spoiler warnings!
>>
>>loads of fun!
From: adamsf@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Season Premiere-- Geordi Dies!!!
Date: 19 Aug 92 09:49:52 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <cole.714215670@lea>, cole@lea.csc.ncsu.edu (Robert Cole) writes:
> jxs52@po.CWRU.Edu (Jonathan Sheir) writes:
> 
>>I just recently found out from a reliable source that Geordi will be killed
>>in the premiere in an attempt to save Data's life.  LeVar Burton wished to
>>leave and the writers thought it would be a good way to send him off  It will
>>give Data more of an appreciation as to what friendship really is.

God, you guys!!!! Is this not a SPOILER???

I *really* did not need to know this.  Would have preferred to be shocked.


> 
> This is the main reason that Scotty is being introduced into TNG.  The
> chief engineer is an important role and rather than take time to develop
> a new character, the producers felt it a good idea to use a characte
> already well known to the audience.  Colm Meaney (the transporter chief)
> was considered as a replacement, but as he is signed on for DS9, the
> decision to use Scotty was made.
From: steves@gdfwc3 (Steve Strauss)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Season Premiere-- Geordi Dies!!!
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:52:08 GMT
Organization: General Dynamics, Fort Worth Division

Thank you captain spoiler!
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From: castor@athena.mit.edu (Carlos A. Rabell)
Subject: Re: Data's definition of friendship
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:51:09 GMT

In article <16ujjjINNrj2@network.ucsd.edu>, earharta@sdsc.edu (Alan Earhart) writes:
|> heidi-ho,
|> 
|> Although I remember someone asking about this qoute and what
|> episode it was in, I don't remember if the poster ever received
|> a reply.
|> 
|> I don't remember the exact qoute ( something about his neural
|> pathways get 'used' to someone's input ) but it was in the 
|> episode that had Yar's sister in it.  I wish I knew the title!
|> 
|> 
|> I hope this was some help.
|> Anyone else need any 'almost-information' ? ;)
|> 
|> Alan
|> 
|> I gotta work on putting more "I"'s in my sentences.
|> 

The episode's name is "Legacy"

-Charlie.
From: sll28@cc.usu.edu (LORNA_PAYNE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Who Might Play Sisco?
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:22:28 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Aug21.130316.58309@cc.usu.edu>, sll28@cc.usu.edu (LORNA_PAYNE)
 writes:
> In article <1992Aug21.104732.12203@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>, 
	scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Sean C. Duncan, Idiot) wr
> 
> Here are a couple I've had:
> 	
> 	*  Terry Carter -- an extremely good actor who was completely
> 	   under- and mis-used as Colonel Tigh in Battlestar Galactica.
> 
> 	*  (aargh! I've forgetten his name!) -- played Lando in Star Wars,
> 	   Harvey Dent in Batman, and lots of other good parts.

I've remembered it now:  Billy Dee Williams.


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               Certified Math Geek and Grammarian
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From: owen@olympus.arc.nasa.gov..arc.nasa.gov (Owen S. Nishioka)
Subject: Re: ST:TNG gifs
Keywords: gif pictures
Organization: Nasa-Ames Research Center
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 15:27:46 GMT

In article <Bsyuxo.IAG@hsi.com> tankus@hsi.com (Ed Tankus) writes:
>In article <BsxIpK.FE5@spock.dis.cccd.edu> markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Mark Bixby) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug12.232947.3730@unislc.uucp> zzekka@unislc.UUCP (Zeke Zecca,B2C10,4827) writes:
>>A HUGE selection of ST gifs is available from vab02.larc.nasa.gov via FTP.
>
> Correct.  HOWEVER, there does not appear to be an index of the gifs
> at this site ... unless of course I missed it.  Please correct me
> if I'm wrong as I'm in search of Gates Gifs.
>

The Gifs named sttng.Cxxx are contact prints of the other numbered gifs.
Each contact print contains thumbnails of 15 or so pictures.

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From: psrc@pegasus.att.com (Paul S. R. Chisholm)
Subject: Re: Data from France in "Time's Arrow" 
Reply-To: psrc@pegasus.att.com (Paul S. R. Chisholm)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 04:24:45 GMT
Summary: setup for TA2

Of course, Picard's going to show up in 19th century San Francisco, and
everyone will look at him and say:

"You must be from France!"

(After all, he's dressed pretty much the same way Data was.)

Paul S. R. Chisholm, AT&T Bell Laboratories/EasyLink Services,
att!pegasus!psrc, psrc@pegasus.att.com, AT&T Mail !psrchisholm
I'm not speaking for the company, I'm just speaking my mind.
Beldar Conehead: "Just tell everyone you come from France."
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From: trey@leland.Stanford.EDU (Clarence Gordon)
Subject: Re: Smithsonian
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:04:45 GMT

for those intersted in the closing dates of the star trek exhibit at the
smithsonian-----------end of jan 1993       
i was just there three weeks ago and that was the date. the oroginal
date had been sept 7, 1992.
trey@leland.stanford.edu
From: bdugan@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Bill Dugan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: What is the 25th Anniversary game?
Keywords: version, romulan, cloak
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:04:52 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <1992Aug20.123718.26029@mits.mdata.fi> jarnis@mits.mdata.fi (Jarno Kokko) writes:
>So you work for Interplay? Well, do you have ANY information about
>any kind of 'extra missions' or a followup to this GREAT game?
>

Well, look for the first new Interplay star trek game to be the CD-ROM version
of Star Trek: 25th Anniversary.  This will include lots of incredible voice
and sound, and the Vengeance scenario is being extended.  After that, who
knows?

bill
interplay

PS: Glad you enjoyed our game.
-- 
Bill Dugan
bdugan@gnu.ai.mit.edu
From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Warp Scale (was star trek vi: the und)
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:22:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

Mark Newman writes:
>  A few years back I read a book by a noted British 
> astronomer in which he stated that Einstein's laws only state
> that travel *at* the speed of light is impossible; speeds faster
> than light are possible under his equations.

The equations don't say that you can't travel
at the speed of light, only that it would take 
an infinite amount of energy to accelerate an
object up to the speed of light.  This has led 
some to speculate about a class of particles
that *always* travel faster than C, and can
never slow down.  These have been called
Tachyons, and some semi-serious proposals
have been made to try to detect them.  This is
difficult, as such particles, if they exist at all,
would never interact with ordinary matter.
There is nothing in Physics today that even
suggests that FTL travel might be possible, 
warp engines notwithstanding.

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* These are my opinions only.*
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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: physical fitness
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:15:54 EST
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

>Any idea what kinda cigarettes he smokes.  Perchance a Marlboro man?
>This smoker wants to know.

I honestly have no idea.  I read it in Entertainment Weekly, that's all.


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