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From: tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Grace Sylvan)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: kids clothes
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:29:40 GMT
Organization: Sylvan Associates

In article <1992Aug17.102221.3266@otago.ac.nz> prevmary@otago.ac.nz writes:

   Ive just received my first Biobottoms catalogue. What a silly name for a
   catalogue!!
   AnywAY it has some of the nicest clothes I've ever seen for little kids.

   each of those places. My sister in Portland would be the best bet to get me
   things if there is an outlet store there. Ive asked her to look also but she
   has only been in the Us for about 4 weeks so everything is still very new to
   her. But she has already been to the Hanna Anderson outlet store sale for me.
   At this rate I'll be bankrupt soon but its fun!!!
   I only hope the next kids Land's End arrives soon. My husband is away at a
   conference so I can drool over the catalogues to my hearts content.
   Pity about the housework though!

   Mary Jane
   Dunedin
   New Zealand

Do you know anyone who sews? Often I use the catalogs for inspiration.

Robin the wonder child weighed 19 lb 2 oz at 5 months old, 26 inches
tall. He is wearing the 2nd size of Hannas, and there is room to grow.
He's in 12 (barely) and 18 month size clothing now. Unlike anything
else he wore, he would have been able to wear Hanna size 60 for 5
months. (We didn't have anything in 60, fearing that he'd outgrow them
too quickly)
-- 

Tigger (Grace Sylvan)                Mom of Katherine Yelena, 8/8/89 &
tigger@satyr.sylvan.com              Robin Gregory born 2/28/92
=======================
I'm a mammal and proud of it!
From: lynnef@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (Lynne Axel Fitzsimmons)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: flying with infant
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:31:33 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.


Definitely carry enough food/formula!  We had just reached our destination,
and were waiting for another plane with more family to arrive, and a
father offered to BUY a spare bottle of formula from me!  (I gave it to
him).
--
Lynne Fitzsimmons		lynnef@tekig1.pen.tek.com

"On the contrary, I have created a subroutine specifically
for you, a program within a program" - Data
From: lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Warming baby bottles
Date: 13 Aug 92 04:26:44 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA

In article <14016@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch) writes:
>
>Is this unusual? I had understood that it was rare for a baby to accept 
>changes in his milk--it had to be the same temperature as usual, so
>formula-users are advised to start out by giving the baby cold bottles, 
>for convenience's sake. 

I think it depends on the child. Some kids are just not that picky. Jeffrey
would take his formula or breast milk at any temperature and from any
source. Since my mom is a nurse she got a lot of different brands of
formula, and he never minded the different brands either.
>

{part about Paula's son taking bottle from mom without a problem}

>So--is this unusual or not?

I dont know, but it doesnt seem to be. What happens is that people
tend to talk about the tough cases. There isnt too much interest in
the children who dont get upset about a particular type of thing. 

Laura Floom
From: tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Grace Sylvan)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: How to have a smarter baby?
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:54:39 GMT
Organization: Sylvan Associates

Talk to your baby, respond to (and respect, as much as is possible)
your babies communications and wishes, carry the baby around with you,
take your baby out with you (anywhere - the store is as interesting as
any other place). Look through picture books and magazines with the
baby, talk about what the baby's looking at "Yes, that's a big yellow
truck!", etc. Let the baby touch, taste, hold, etc, as many things as
possible.

It's not teaching so much as sharing the baby's experience and adding
to it. Seeing the world through a baby's eyes can be very refreshing.
It's amazing the things you will see. I remember the first time Kayvan
carried Katherine over to a tree trunk and she patted it and touched
it in wonder.



-- 

Tigger (Grace Sylvan)                Mom of Katherine Yelena, 8/8/89 &
tigger@satyr.sylvan.com              Robin Gregory born 2/28/92
=======================
I'm a mammal and proud of it!
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: dan@Ingres.COM (Daniel J. Dick)
Subject: Re: God's family values
Organization: Representing my own views here - not my company's
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Distribution: usa
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:21:10 GMT

ooblick@intercon.com (Mikki Barry) writes:
: In article <aidler.714030781@sanjuan>, aidler@sanjuan.UVic.CA (E Alan Idler) 
: writes:
: > It would be negligent for us as parents to not
: > teach our children the truth to they may 
: > choose happiness throughout their lives.
: 
: Here we go again.  Prejudicial, judgmental, and calling non-xtian parents 
: negligent.  And yet some still wonder what non-xtians find offensive in this 
: type of stuff.

Alan is a christian.  His feelings that he is obligated to do the best he
knows possible for his children are no indications of prejudice,
judgementalism or of labeling non-christians as negligent on his part.
From: darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Funny things they say (6YO)
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:45:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Davis

Last night we went to the park for an event, and the kids (Sean, 2 and
Brendan, 6) of course spent much of their time in the playground. When
we got home I had Sean up on the changing table to put him in his
night diaper. When I took his shoes off, naturally a shower of sand
came out so I said, "Sean, I think you brought half the playground
home in your shoes!"  Brendan, walking past the room in the hall 
heard this and said, "Sean brought half the playground home?"
So I said, "Yes, his shoes were full of sand so that's why I said
that." He thought for a moment and then came out with "Did he bring
any swings?"

You gotta love 'em!

Richard
From: judyd@aspen.CNA.TEK.COM (Judy E. Drake)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Second Baby Thoughts ...
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:36:05 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Redmond,  OR.

In article <16841902F.M18611@MBVM.Mitre.Org> M18611@MBVM.Mitre.Org (Kathy Wilk) writes:

>  My neighbor, who had her children years ago, told me that the second
>child was the tumultuous adjustment;  her third child just 'slid right in'
>to their family life.  I believe I could handle a third child much more
>easily - after all, I have already resigned myself to being 'on duty'
>straight through until 9:00 at night.

After I had my first child, I gained a whole new respect for my parents,
who had three.  I had my hands utterly full with my new baby, and I
asked them how they had handled three.  Their response was:

My mother:  "Well, with one you want to do everything perfectly.  Then
             the second one comes along and you want to do everything
             perfectly for two."

My father:   "Then the third one comes along and you realize what you
             could have gotten away with with the first!"

Judy Drake
From: sj@silma.com (Suzanne)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: duplicate baby blankets
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:12:15 GMT
Organization: Silma Inc

An even cooler idea than duplicate blankets is to encourage
your baby to use a cloth diaper instead of a blanket.  This
was a tip we heard from friends.  They're replaceable, cleanable,
and come in packages of 12!
From: kati@glnserv.UUCP (Lady Dragon)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Transitional (Toddler) Bed versus Twin Beds
Date: 22 Aug 92 14:28:01 GMT
Organization: Vermi-net, Houston, Tx. 77098

tanner@sundog.nas.nasa.gov (Leigh Ann Tanner) writes:
> Our daughter (19 months) has recently started climbing
> out of her crib.  We talked about purchasing a "toddler"
> bed but then weren't sure about whether to go to that
> bed or a regular twin bed.  What are the advantages/disadvantages
> of either one??
>
> As a side note, we are expecting in April, so will need the
> crib by that time anyway (or a little after).
>
> Leigh Ann

First, congratulations.
Second, I just moved my 2YO son out of his crib a couple of months ago.
You want to start a bedtime routine now if you haven't already. This
encourages her to stay in bed after the gates are gone. When I took the
crib apart, I saved the mattress-holding springs and put them on cinder
blocks. Then I moved the mattress on top of that and got rid of the rest
of the crib (but you will want to save it for the next baby). I did this
for the transistional stage because I couldn't see $40 for a bed that my
son would outgrow too quickly. When we have some spare money, we will buy
him a new twin bed.

I did notice that my son seemed to be more afraid of the dark now that his
bars are gone. It seems that, not only did the bars keep him in, it kept
the monsters out. He likes someone to be in the room with him until he
goes to sleep. This is okay at night since he and his sister share the
same room, but during the day I have to sit with him.

* * email address: nuchat!xcluud!glnserv!kati * Houston, Texas, USA, Earth * *
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: minx@access.digex.com (minx)
Subject: Re: God's Family Values in misc.kids
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 17:45:03 GMT

In article <aidler.714441648@sanjuan> aidler@sanjuan.UVic.CA (E Alan Idler) writes:
>Let us constrain ourselves to religious discussions
>relating to childcare and family life, however.
>Any doctrinal statements I have posted this week
>were intended to serve as definitions of "God's
>Family Values."

Forgive me for sounding crass, but it seems to me quite
silly of you to believe that your definition
is or can be the same as God's definition.

Minx
From: exusag@exu.ericsson.se (Serena Gilbert,cs,x0364)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Funny Things They Think (at almost 5)
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:48:04 GMT
Reply-To: exusag@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.


The other day I noticed one of the tires on the car was low and I told my SO that we needed to put air in the tire.  He asked if I was sure that he needed to put air in the tire.  I said yes that he needed to put air in the tire.

Aaron who was listening to all this piped up and said "I don't want to go in the tire!"

After we stop laughing we tried to explain what we ment, (I don't think he believed us)~.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Subject: Re: Waterbeds
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: misc.kids
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:15:14 GMT

In article <CATHYD.92Aug18164703@sprite.cme.nist.gov> cathyd@cme.nist.gov (Cathy Diaz) writes:
>
>I slept in a waterbed long before I was pregnant with my son (1990).
>So I preferred the waterbed to firm mattress to begin with.  Anyhow, I
>did find getting out of the bed not to be much of a problem.  Yes, I
>had to roll out of it instead of just getting up but I believe it is
>easier that getting out of a regular bed.  ( I always had to call for
>help out of a regular if I napped at someone else's house).

I dont have a water bed, but recently turned down one. I would say that
if someone had a C-Section it would be impossible to get out of a waterbed
for the first week or so. It was hard enough getting in and out of a regular 
bed. For a couple of days after getting out of the hospital (day 4) the
way I got out of my bed was to carefully move over to the side of the bed,
carefully swing my legs onto the floor, and *carefully* use my arms to 
raise myself up to a sitting position. I cant think how I would have done it
on a waterbed.  Getting into bed I sort of reversed the whole procedure.
>

Laura Floom
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 12 Aug 1992 13:26:45 MST
From: <ICKAD@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Funny Things They Do (3 YO)

Last night, I had an opportunity to catch up long-distance with a good friend.
On the subject of potty training, Alexa told me about something that happened
in a Sears store when her oldest daughter was three.  Apparently, while Alexa
was shopping, her daughter had migrated toward a bathroom display.  Alexa
heard all the laughter and caught her little girl just in time, as she was
pulling down her underwear, ready to use the toilet!

She taught her well . . ..  :-)

--Jamie's Mommy  (Karen Davis)

*Anecdote used with permission.
From: pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Hepatitis vaccine
Date: 14 Aug 1992 15:49:06 GMT
Reply-To: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Originator: pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu


I feel very strongly in favor of vaccinations. Regardless of whether 
or not they have the right to do so, those people who do not let their 
children get the DPT shots increase the risk of catching the diseases 
for other children who, for medical reasons, cannot get the whole series 
of DPT shots. 

However, this argument for universal vaccinations holds only for diseases 
of infancy. Given that a child has essentially zero risk of catching 
hepatitis B as an infant, I would like to have my child wait until he's 
older to get the hepatitis vaccination. The reason given for vaccinating 
infants against hepatitis--that parents simply don't vaccinate older 
children--won't hold in my case, and it's possible that waiting may reduce 
risk. It will increase the cost, though, as long as the vaccine, reasonably 
enough, is priced according to volume--larger bodies need a higher dose.

Paula Burch
pburch@bcm.tmc.edu
From: fowler@esmlsun.gatech.edu (c b fowler)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Question about Encyclopedias
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:30:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute

In article <1992Aug14.203143.13758@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.174817.25882@pony.Ingres.COM> dan@Ingres.COM (Daniel 
J. Dick) writes:
>>My wife and I are expecting our first child, and like a crazy, over 
concerned
>>father, I've already been on the search for the perfect school, the perfect
>>place to live to bring up children, the perfect car, the perfect car seat,
>>etc., and am coming to the point of wondering what the perfect encyclopedia
>>and educational materials might be.

Get the Dr. Seuss Picture Dictionary!  A must for any kids library.  We've 
gone through rolls of ScotchTape trying to keep it together.

>The most perfect encyclopedias the ones in the library.  They get nice new
>updated ones every year or so, and so few people use them that YOU migh be the
>one cracking open the binding for the very first time.

Without a doubt.  The price is good, too.

>Otherwise, plan to spend upwards of $1500 (or $50 a month for the next
>I-could-pay-off-my-car-faster many months) for your own set that won't
>contain tomorrow's headlines.

Another alternative is adding a CD to your PC.  I've seen these advertised 
that come with an encyclopedia, maps, etc for $400-500.  You can cut and 
paste into word processors, too.  (Just imagine how quickly you can turn 
out that term paper.)  When you're not using it for data access, plug in 
headphones.

Chris
c. b. fowler  gtri/esml
fowler@esmlsun.gatech.edu -\
cf6@prism.gatech.edu        |-- Pick one
CFOWLER@GTRI01            -/
From: jgj@ssd.csd.harris.com (Jeff Jackson)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Cruelty Free Products (Was Re: cradle cap)
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:46:12 GMT
	<l8so26INNne1@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu>
Organization: I would rather be windsurfing.
In-reply-to: michelle@cs.utk.edu's message of 16 Aug 92 14:03:50 GMT


>Does anyone have information about other companies that offer kids (or other) 
>products that they don't use animal testing for?  I agree with the sentiment 
>that my shampoo shouldn't kill animals.  I worked in a pharmacy college.  I 
>could tell you horror stories.

I don't know about you, but I don't want *my* kids to be the guinea
pigs for some shampoo that's going to make their hair fall out.  I
want it tested on chimps, pigs, rats and anything else before its
*ever* tried on a human being!


--
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jgj@ssd.csd.harris.com |     bust you up tonight."
x5120                  | Jesus said, "Go ahead, make my day."
                   ~~~~~~~~~ -- Carman, "The Champion"
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		     I think for myself instead.
From: salvaggi@sunshine.Kodak.COM (Nanette Salvaggio)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Whole milk verses 2%
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:18:18 GMT
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY


My son is now 9 months old.  The doctor has told us to switch
him to milk, which he seems to like just fine.  My
question is that our doctor has said whole milk,  yet
my daycare providers doctor insists that whole or 2% doesn't really
matter.  I have taken a quick survey around the office and
there seems to be a 50 - 50 split over which is better.  My
son is healthy and sits right on the 50th percentile for
both weigth and height.  Everyone in my family except me
has always had weight problems so I am concerned and 
don't want my son to end up with a weight problem.  So we
are concerned about his fat intake.  What is the net experience
and knowlegde on this subject?

Nanette
salvaggi@alnitak.kodak.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: watson@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (laura.k.watson)
Subject: Re: How to have a smarter baby?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:27:16 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.180426.1702@cs.brown.edu> mhn@cs.brown.edu (Marian H. Nodine) writes:
>While I have no problem with kids learning to read early, my own personal
>experience does not lead me to believe that this "schoolproofs" kids.  I
>learned to read at age 3, and started school at the normal time.  I was 
>so different that the school system had *no* idea where I was coming 
>from. To the extent that I "failed" their "reading readiness test", 
>and was almost kept back in kindergarten because I wasn't ready for 
>first grade.  My mom had to bring in a fairly complicated book and 
>have me read it to them before they grudgingly allowed me to stay 
>with the class.  My first three years of primary school I was miserable, 
>and always close to failing.

I find your experience quite interesting.  In what state did you live?
Was this just a regular public school?

>How did this "schoolproofing" help me?

Well, look at it this way.  Since you already learned how to read before
you went into the school system, it didn't have the chance to *fail* to
teach you to read.  These days you keep hearing about kids graduating
from high school and being unable to read.  Doman and others claim
it's easier for a child to learn to read at the age of 3 than at the
age of 6.

And you evidently must enjoy reading and learning things now as an 
adult, at least a little, or you wouldn't be reading this network.  
Studies show that children who learn to read at an early age will
enjoy reading, and learning in general, later in life.  So the 
school process didn't have the negative effect on you that it has
on some kids, who get turned off on learning and such.  

-- 
Laura Watson           lkw@falcon3.att.com   lkw@burt.att.com
                                 
Mom of Stephanie W. Zolayvar ( 2 yrs, 3 months ) and
       Eric W. Zolayvar (8 weeks)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: aidler@sanjuan.UVic.CA (E Alan Idler)
Subject: Re: God's family values
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: 17 Aug 92 05:53:01 GMT


My wife and I believe in being truthful in our
role as parents to our 3 children.
We also feel a duty to testify of our God and
Jesus Christ His Son.

We have each received devine confirmation in 
our hearts that Jesus offered Himself as a 
sacrafice for us and then was resurrected.
Therefore, we speak of Jesus to our children
as a living being.

We want them to know of His sincere desire for
their welfare.  We want them to know of the
great destiny their Father has prepared for
all his children.

Nevertheless, we accept that they will each 
have to build their own relationship with God.

We know (from the Scriptures and our own experiences)
there are certain thoughts and acts that
enhance and others that diminish the relationship 
between people and God.

It would be negligent for us as parents to not
teach our children the truth to they may 
choose happiness throughout their lives.

The purpose these teachings are not to fill
our children with hopeless feelings of guilt,
but to allow them to realize that through
dedicating themselves to Jesus they can 
overcome the challenges of this life. 

Alan Idler
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: aidler@sanjuan.UVic.CA (E Alan Idler)
Subject: Re: God's Family Values in misc.kids
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: 22 Aug 92 00:00:48 GMT

In our home we don't raise our children alone ...
The role that we permit God in our family life is
very relevant to many topics in childcare.

Let us constrain ourselves to religious discussions
relating to childcare and family life, however.
Any doctrinal statements I have posted this week
were intended to serve as definitions of "God's
Family Values."

Alan Idler
From: cew@med.unc.edu (Cathryn W. Chiesa)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Roller skates for a 2.6 year old
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:43:35 GMT
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Originator: cew@pelham

This summer my 13 year old nephew visited for two weeks.  He
brought along he roller blades.  My 2.6 year old son loved to
sit on the porch and watch him skate.  He would get up and
pretent to put on skates and skate all around.  He has been
talking constantly about getting roller skates when he is
bigger.  Everynight after dinner we all go outside and pretnet
to put on skates.  I have not desire to buy him roller blades,
but has anyone bought a pair of plastic skates for a kid this
age???  Any recommendations for brands.  I figure we would hold
his hand and just push him around.  This is the first thing
he has every really wanted (and I know it won't be the last).
Thanks for any recommendations or suggestions.

Cathryn W. Chiesa
cew@med.unc.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: tama@anasazi.com (Tama McBride)
Subject: Re: Let the toilet training begin!
Organization: Anasazi Inc, Phoenix AZ USA
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:53:43 GMT

Ian has just started using his potty, usually to no avail except first
thing in the morning.  His big "treat" is getting to wash his hands.  
This kid _loves_ water.  I'm waiting to see how long it will take for him
to tell me _before_ he goes instead of after....  but if he asks, he gets
to sit.   :-)
-- 
Tama McBride  (beeper 602/498-1367, office 602/861-7679, e-mail tama@qip.UUCP)
From: pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: WALKING
Date: 13 Aug 1992 17:06:20 GMT
Reply-To: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Originator: pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <23552@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, 33s@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Angie 
Brvenik) writes:
|> 
|> Zachary is 14 months old and has shown no signs of wanting to walk.
|> He will sometimes push his fire engine by holding on to the handle and
|> start walking across the floor.  He will only do this when he wants
|> to.  When I try to get him to do this, NO WAY!  Ive tried walking with
|> him, he just buckles his knees and gets down and crawls.  Ive tried
|> using a walker, he climbs out of it.  What can I do?  Zack is a big
|> boy, he weighs about 22 pounds, and is getting a little to big for me
|> to carry (ie. to the car, down the hall to laundry room, to the elevator,
|> etc.).  Around the house he gets where he has to go on his own.
|> 
|> Im sure one day I will look up and Zack will be walking right by me!
|> Meanwhile, any suggestion to help him along would be appreciated.

My mom's solution to this with me was to put me in dresses so I couldn't 
crawl as well. I was walking in days, she says.

So just try putting Zachary in a dress! :-)

Somehow I don't think you'll try this....

Paula Burch
pburch@bcm.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids