From: nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil Idriss)
Subject: Re: BILL CLINTON ON ISRAEL AND THE MIDDLE
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 14:31:58 GMT

>>>    o Pressured Israel to make once sided concessions in the
>>>      peace process
>>>
>>
>>     * Pressured the Arabs to make concessions too.
>
>What pressure? What concessions? Where? But the Arabs were strong and
>steadfast, and didn't yield to the pressure.

Well, one of the major concessions is the departure from the idea of
liberating Palestine and accepting the WB and Gazza. The PLO is not
on the negotiating table, although I would not be surprised if this
changes in the future. the Arabs demanded Israeli withdrawal first 
before negotiations,now they don't.

>
>>>    o Ignored the cruel and crippling economic boycott of
>>>      Israel by its Arab neighbors, and disregarded other
>>>      roadblocks to peace
>> 
>>     * The Economic boycott will end once peace is achieved
>>       and the Palestinians have their own homeland.
>
>So the economic boycott won't be one of the Arab concessions, eh?

If Rabin was correct in what he said last week on MCcneil Lehrer news
hour that he is prepared to offer the Palestininas a first step self
rule and elections on the next peace talks, it would be a good time
to end of boycott. I would prefer to see a final solution before the
end of the boycott.

>
>>>
>>>    o Denied Israel's request for humanitarian assistance in
>>>      resettling Russian Jews, and
>>>
>>     * The United States have always helped Israel to resettle
>>       Jews in Israel. Recently the Loan guarantees have been
>>       approved.
>
>Resettle Jews in Israel because of a history of annihilation
>in every other country in which we settled (and for the last 44 years
>the Arabs have been dedicated to the "final solution" of annihilating 
>us there, too). And the Loan Guarantees have been approved because
>Israel agreed-to and stopped-building new settlements.

You make it sound like that building settlements in the territories was
a right for Israel to do and they gave up this right for the loan gurantees.

>
>>>    o Eroded Israel's security needs by selling billions of
>>>      dollars in sophisticated weaponry to Israel's Arab neighbors.
>>>
>>     * If the United States does not sell weapons to allies like 
>>       Saudi Arabia then Britian will and the United States will
>>       loose billions of dollars. After all they are allies and
>>       they boost the economy of the Western world by lowering
>>       the price of oil. 
>
>Where do you buy *your* gasoline? I pay $1.25/gallon, up from $0.98
>last September.

Did you notice how much the price of gasoline went up during the Gulf Crisis?
$40+ a gallon which would make the gasoline price $2.50/gallon. If the OPEC wants
to raise the prices to this range, they can. That is actually was the intention
of Saddam Hussein when he invaded Kuwait, he wanted to raise the price of oil
to improve his economy and not to liberate Palestine. That is why the West
went crazy and fought that war. I hope that you realize that the allies 
fought the Gulf war for this reason and not to re-install the Kuwaiti
government.

>>>Palestinian State.  The Palestinians should have the right -- as specified in
>>>the Camp David Accord -- to participate in the determination of their future.
>>>But they do no have the right to determine Israel's future.  For that reason,
>>>Bill Clinton opposes the creation of an independent Palestinian state.
>>>
>>
>>Did he really say that? I have never heard it. Why the Palestinians have no right
>>and Israel have right?
>
>Because Jordan=Palestine.
>
Simply NO! Jordan=Jordan=The Hashemites and Palestine=Palestine=Palestinians.
If I go to Jordan with a refugee passport to obtain a visa, they will spit in my
face at the airport.
 
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Against the arms race.  We learned from Saddam's conquest of Kuwait that
>>>missles and military dictators are a dangerous combination.  It is time we
>>>became a leader in the effort to rein in the dangerous poliferation not only of
>>>weapons of mass destruction, but of conventional arsenals as well.
>>>
>>>    o We need to aid Israel's defense against these dangerous
>>>      weapons by ensuring the completion of the Arrow anti-
>>>      ballistic missle.
>>>
>>
>>The weapons of mass destruction are dangerous and should be kept away from 
>>the hands of Saddam Hussein, Syria, and Israel as well.
>
>Israel has them, but doesn't (and won't) use them (unless faced with
>annihilation). Iraq and Syria have them AND USE THEM WITH IMPUNITY!!

Iraq and Syria never had Nuclear weapons. I think this is the only mass
destruction weapon nowadays. I don't think that chemical weapons are 
mass destruction. Every country in the world will use them as a last 
resort. 


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