HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jvbutera@grad04.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera)
Subject: Re: Corps GIF's?
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:27:19 GMT

In article <1ihh35INN2vo@lester.appstate.edu> GRS00005@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU (*GRS9999101) writes:
*
*Im going to up load some to one of our FTP sites soon if there isnt one that
*already carries them
*
*- dolittle

Go for it, just post the site name when you or anyone else does...




-- 
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Math Graduate Student
N.C. State University       "Still looking for a witty quote." 
jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu                              -Brad Halls
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From: dci@cs.washington.edu (Donald Chinn)
Subject: Re: Updated Corps Address List
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 21:40:55 GMT


Thanks, Michael, for the new address list.  I was going to post
the FAQ (I usually do it at the beginning of the month), but I have
been swamped recently.  I will post when I am able.  Actually, if
anyone wants to take this job over (perhaps Michael is interested),
I would not be averse to it.  There is a small overhead in learning
how to post to news.answers.

-- Donald
From: cf123@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Christopher Leigh Putnam)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.drumcorps
Subject: SCV has a new guard director
Date: 6 Jan 1993 21:37:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cf123@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Christopher Leigh Putnam)
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SCV has a new guard director.  Karl Lowe will be the head for this year. 
He has an excellent reputation for winter guards and plans to use more than
one flag next year (a small joke).  It sounds like they might actually be
decent this summer.

Anyone know of other staff changes?????
-- 
Chris Putnam (still a Blue Devils lover at heart)
Euphonium/Baritone
Star in '93?????
Go Devils Winterguard!!!!!
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From: mkahn@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael Kahn)
Subject: Re: Judge kills
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:14:00 GMT

Speaking of screwed-up arrangements, a band director I know in northern
Virginia loves to tell the story of how he and his band performed the 1812
Overture on the field using actual Marine color guard on the cannons. Since
the noise in the stands was going to be at its usual level, the director
arranged to have a wireless mike/headset connection to the color guard to let
them know when to fire the cannons (the military not generally known for their
musical literacy, at least in this case). During the very slow, beautiful
chime/bell part that precedes the final theme and the cannons, this director
said into the mike, "OK guys, get 'em ready."

At which point, out of nowhere, came a cannon blast that rocked the entire
stadium. The band, scared witless, managed somehow to pull it together and
complete the piece with a straight face.

They say Tschaikovsky is still rolling over in his grave over that one.

--Michael Kahn
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From: jwise@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Wise)
Subject: 1993 shows and addresses
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:36:06 GMT


First my apologies, I meant to send this directly to Michael Fath but, damn my 
luck I lost his address (probably at home some where) anyhow I believe I can 
help fill in some gaps about 93 shows and corps addresses (sort of).

Spirit of Atlanta is playing a gospel-tinged show.  The opener as I understand 
it is almost a direct transcription of Al Jarreau's version of the Messiah as 
heard on a recently released (well holiday release) R&B-soul-jazz remake of 
parts of the Messiah. (Handel's Messiah that is).  Somewhere in the show is 
Take 6's David and Goliath, and currently there's a few other tunes under 
consideration which haven't been even unofficially mentioned (at least to me).
Lucky for all of you out there, I'll be trekking down to Atlanta next weekend 
for their January camp, so look foward to more news soon.
     An aside, everything I'm being told about Spirit so far looks highly 
promising,  obviously their goal is to be performing August 21st, and the 
interest, at least for right now is high.  Especially with the supposed 
(re)inception of Drum Corps South as a circuit with Star included, and also a 
championship contest somewhere at sometime.

Allright, last point is corps addresses.  Everytime this comes up, I don't have
the new address with me, but give me a day or two.

          The Bluecoats, along with the management change have also changed 
addresses.  The address that's out there now, is technically still allright, 
since it goes right to Ted Swaldo's house, but it's not totally correct.  I 
believe it's now a PO box number.  But what I can give you is the new phone 
number.

Announcing the new phone number for the Bluecoats (yea, wow)
          (216) 966 1469
          If you're interested in reaching a human and not a machine try after 
7:30pm est.

That's all I got for now...

Jeff
Bluecoats 86, 88-92
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From: R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Stanford Shows
Date: 5 Jan 1993 11:44:44 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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In article <1993Jan4.220729.312@afit.af.mil>, jmiller@afit.af.mil (Jeff
Miller) wrote:
 
]>But, Rich, your forgot OUR side of the show...our very own salute to
]>punk rock (presented as a takeoff on the LSJUMB), complete with
]>"Disco Sucks!"
 
Been busy lately, haven't you, Jeff?  The USAF not giving you enough work
to keep you behind your email :-) ?
 
You're confusing 2 shows.  The UCLA Band did "Disco Sucks" in 1979 at either
the Washington game or a game with one of the Oregon schools.  The UCLA
band did the punk rock show for both the Stanford and Cal games and spoofed
*both* opposing bands.  Remember the block with bandsmen/women every 4 steps
that extended into the end zones (our version of the Cal formation for the
Star Spangled Banner) with the ? in the center formed by the tubas which
was dotted Ohio State style?
 
Besides, the UCLA Band shows are not known for controversial political
content.  If you want to talk about the show, *you* post it!
From: lazarus@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Weird places to play
Date: 8 Jan 1993 03:20:19 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
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R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu writes:

>You must not know the Stanford Band.  They sounded the same as always, I'm sure!

You're right, I've never actually met them in person.  ;)  'Sides, I'm used to
being in a band where we wait until we have our instruments put away before
we become a collective menace to traffic and society as we know it.  :)  (:
(Well, actually, them, not ME...)

> 
>Rich

Bart -Laz- Smith
The 'Cat!
Member of the Pride of Wildcatland trombone line 1988-92.
Trombones sliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide better!
From: 95lnm@williams.edu (Lisa Masterman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: UCLA fight songs (was: UCLA rumor)
Date: 6 Jan 1993 00:58:50 GMT
Organization: Williams College, Williamstown, MA
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>In article <20624@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> jakilpat@tostada.engr.ucdavis.edu (John Andrew Kilpatrick) writes:
>>and some other.  Also, when we eat together as a band in public, when we are
>>done we have to sing Sons of California.  You should see the looks this gets
>>us when we do in at McDonalds.

sounds familiar to me, too.  The Williams band always does our "YELL" cheer
(takes about five minutes to run the whole thing) and our song "Ode to Eph"
(a version of Ode to Joy with words honoring the band and title honoring our
college's founder, Ephraim Williams) every Saturday brunch in Baxter Dining
Hall before a game and even at the French restaurant we go to for our annual
banquet.

We get a lot of odd looks, too.

--lisa
clarinet, Williams College Mucho Macho Moocow Marching Band
From: lazarus@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: The Television Ate Our Show...
Date: 8 Jan 1993 03:52:46 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
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The Pride has gone to a Kansas City Chiefs game at least
once a year for the past several years.  We went all five years
that I've attended, but we knew better than to expect much when
we were there.

F'rinstance, we didn't have to do pre-game.  A few of us went around
Arrowhead to do some pep-band stuff (the last two years), but the rest
of us just stayed in the stands.

The seats weren't bad, if you like sitting behind the goal-posts.
For a band that gets to sit down front on the 50 for their home games,
(except for ONE, but the administration and the coaches learned the
folly of sticking US in the middle of field-goal central) end-zone
seating is kind of jarring.

Playing during time-outs and such?  Forget it.  The Wolf Pack (their
own pep-band) has that taken care of...

Half-time wasn't bad.  We got to do the WHOLE show, in spite of the
field goal contest (in which they choose three fans, invariably a
little kid of no more than ten, a young, athletically incompetent
but otherwise healthy housewife, and a geriatric, paraplegic Civil
War vet, and try to get them to kick as many through the uprigghts
as possible), we always had enough time to get through our entire
halftime show.  The teams were usually returning to the field by the
time we finished, and one show in which we left the field via the
side-lines left us dodging a large group of Detroit Lions.  (One
bandgeek took pride in the fact that they basically ran over one of
them.  >;)  )

After the win (the Chiefs won every game that I've ever seen them
play :)  ), we had post-game to ourselves!  We basically stayed in
the stands and ran through some of our other halftime material,
always followed by Wildcat Victory and the Wabash Cannonball.  A
nice healthy following of fans would stick around (I'd say about
50 or so) and compliment us afterwards... even a minor contingent
of Jayhawk fans were decent to us!

Television airplay?  I can't say that we got much from any of the
Chiefs games.  The last two years we got to attend a Monday Night
Football match-up (this year was vs. the LA Raiders... that
stadium rocked THAT night.  :) ), but my mom & step-dad never saw
any of us.

The fans are always kind of interesting.  A couple of years ago,
the upper deck threw money at us.  Last year, some drunk offered
me five dollars to let him play my trombone... I talked him up to
ten and made sure to clean my mouthpiece really good afterwards!

The only OTHER pro game we've ever attended was the Broncos/Bears
game in Denver two years ago.  I'm not sure if we were televised...
we DID get to do all of TWO halftime shows... one as a pregame!
I think the most memorable bit from that trip was when about thirty
of us started rolling and tumbling down the 45 degree hill that sits
behind the aluminum bleachers in Mile-High... Stupid Band Tricks, 
y'know.  ;)  Any stadium staff that saw us probably thought we were
nuts...

Bart -Laz- Smith
The 'Cat!
From: R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: LAME
Date: 12 Jan 1993 14:00:14 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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In article 556 of rec.arts.marching.misc, ferejohn@leland.stanford.edu wrote:
 
|>The rules are essentially this.  In the Pac-10, in football and basketball,
|>the opposing team MUST allow at least a thirty person band.
 
Has anyone ever told Arizona about this?  When the Wildcats joined the Pac-10,
they had a rule that NO opponents' bands could play.  UCLA discovered this
and was rudely shocked when they had to cancel their trip in 1979 because
of this.
 
Rich Lamb
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From: stanford@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scott Stanford)
Subject: Re: Field Pyrotechnics (Was Re: Judge kills)
Organization: none whatsoever
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 20:40:46 GMT

In article <la-la-la...**BRAM**> timc@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Tim Castro) writes:

>How many other bands out there use pyrotechnics in their shows?

We (Stanford Band) don't tend to use actual pyrotechnics but rather
the low-tech substitutes such as fire extinguishers and several rolls
of toilet paper to simulate explosions, fires, etc.  I don't think
Stanford Stadium likes fire (although several formations brought up
during SMUT require using the Hubble Telescope lens and appropriate
mirror to burn down the supports of the press box, causing it to
collapse atop the alumni section).

I think I read in FLAMBE (a scatterband publication) that the Harvard
Band has used Glad trash bags filled with hydrogen (or some other
not-so-friendly gas [methane?]) and electric cattle prods for their
explosions.  Confirmations/denials/quick coverups?

Scott "omigod have you looked in the fridge" Stan4d
There must be 6 liters of Jim Beam in there.  And the Dr. Pepper...
-- 
Scott Stanford                 |)  Eenie meenie miney moe.
stanford@leland.stanford.edu  /|   Catch a tiger by the toe.
                             ((|,) If he hollers...yeah whatEVER.
"MORE Doctah Peppah!!"        ~|~  He's EATIN' your ass.  Run, you idiot.
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From: jmiller@afit.af.mil (Jeffrey C Miller)
Subject: Re: LA City Band and Drill Team
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:09:40 GMT

In article <18559662@um.cc.umich.edu> R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu writes:
>Have any of you in the Southern California area heard anything about the
>LA City Band and Drill Team Championships?  As a former participant
>(El Camino Real HS 1976-1977) and instructor (Venice HS 1980-1982), I have
>an interest in how it's going.
> 
>We now return you to your regular college band discussion :-)
> 
>Rich Lamb

I heard the whole thing was canned a couple of years ago...something about
"budget considerations".  I wonder, though, if it just got too politically
incorrect to have the same two Valley schools winning all the time...?

Jeff

-- 
Jeff Miller,  NH6ZW/N8,  AFA1HE (ex WD6CQV, AFA8JM, AFA1DO)
AFIT School of Engineering, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH
"You gotta expect some losses when you fly the heavies, man" -- Jeff Conn
Help eliminate FOD in our lifetime.
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From: csmith@anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu (craig edward smith)
Subject: Re: The Television Ate Our Show...
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:18:54 GMT

>>Television? NO THANK YOU!
>>Any other tales of woe out there?  Any GOOD experiences?

I think TV covers college games the same way they cover Pro games, because
they want to used the same crews. And since most pro games have very boring
halftime shows (like frisbee dogs, or passing contests) they break away. Also,
most of the sports casters wouldn't know how to cover a halftime show. They
way to cover it is to put the camera to cover the whole field so you can
see everything, then . . . SHUT UP!!!!!

Most sports caster are trained to talk constantly, as dead air is considered
a no-no.  As a result, they can cover sports, but do not know how to cover
entertainment.  I still recall with revulsion the coverage of the opening
ceremonies for the 1984 LA Olympics. John Williams was playing that MAGNIFICENT
fanfare he wrote for the olympics and the sports casters were telling us
what other things he had written, how long he took to write it, etc. etc.
My GOD!!! It sounded like Peter Schikele's play-by-play of Beethoven's Fifth!

In conclusion, TV does not cover halftimes anymore because they don't know
how. Very simple.
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From: jclark@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (J. Michael Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Ohio University
Date: 5 Jan 93 06:31:42 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

I've noticed a lot of subjects mentioning high step... How many have seen
the Ohio University Marching 110?? "The Most Exciting Band in the Land!"
Our marching style is not only a high step but also requires our calves
to be extended outward when we march. I will elaborate further if anyone else
is interested. Also watch for the Marching 110 in Pres. Clinton's Inauguration
Parade on January 20th.   

J. Michael Clark
Ohio University
jclark@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu

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From: dcosley@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Daniel R Cosley)
Subject: Re: Weird places to play...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:38:54 GMT

Well, when our corps bus broke down (again -- you haven't seen bus breakdowns
until you've been in a cash-poor small corps) at a truck stop in Chicago for 14
hours, we got out on a deserted section of parking lot and walked through our
show.  Unfortunately, the "field" was about 25x10 yards so we we sort of
tiptoeing through the routines.  And there were no lines... but lots of weird
looks from truckers.

Dan
Northmen, contrabass, 1988-91
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From: jakilpat@tostada.engr.ucdavis.edu (John Andrew Kilpatrick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: LAME
Date: 10 Jan 93 08:31:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: College of Engineering - University of California - Davis

Tonight was the first time in a long time that I have been able to make it to
a band event, and I heard about something.  Seems like all of the schools in
our conference decided to vote for basketball season and say that a band can
only bring 25 people to a game.
 
 
The thing that stinks is that there is really only one band in the conference
that travels.  Us.  The Cal-Aggie Marching Band-uh!.  Often we have heard 
whining complaints from other schools about how we are too big and too noisy.
Some Basketball coaches downright hate us (Hayward comes to mind).  So this is
what they do about it.  They say that we take away income, but then again, I
have yet to be to an away game where the gym was packed.  It's not our fault
that the other schools are too lame to have real bands (with the exception of
Humbolt...ther're as cool as we are) so they decide to limit ours.  I guess 
we'll just have to pick the loudest and noisest.  And have the rest of the band
go along and pay for the game, not play, but just insult the teams and schools.
 
 
 
as we say... Y'ALL ARE LAME!!!!!
[btw, this flame is only directed at the people who came up with this shit...
I felt that people should know what's going on.  Then again, it's nice to be
considered a threat!]
-- 
******************************John A. Kilpatrick*******************************
*"I gotta fly like a duck.......... | Alternate lyrics for "Back to Paradise" *
* I gotta run like a wounded badger"|    from Gundam 0083: StarDust Memory    *
*************************jakilpat@taco.engr.ucdavis.edu************************
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From: ferejohn@leland.Stanford.EDU (john ferejohn)
Subject: Re: LAME
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 07:29:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.235115.11598@leland.Stanford.EDU> elmanad@leland.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman) writes:
>The NCAA has similar rules for tournaments -- we can only take 30 to
>the women's basketball tourney, which kinda sucks. (It means I don't
>get to go to the regionals. :-( ) We can also only take 30 to our
>usual LA trip this year, but I'm not sure if that's NCAA or our own
>athletic department.
>
>If I'm not mistaken, the actual rule is that bands can only have 30
>people playing at one time, but it is _very_ rarely enforced for the
>home band at a regular-season game, and rarely enforced for any bands
>at regular season games.
>
>Anyone else have any ideas on that?
>
>Adam Elman
>aelman@cs.stanford.edu
>
The rules are essentially this.  In the Pac-10, in football and basketball, the
opposing team MUST allow at least a thirty person band.  At football there is 
gennerally no limit.  In basketball, the line is generally drawn at 30.  This
is void in special circumstanses(say, oh, I don't know, your band gets BANNED
from Oregon?).  In other sports, this is rarely a problem, but there are
probably similar rules.  I would imagine the whatever-davis-is-in conference
has a similar rule.
                      _Chris "No, no, a CAL fan" Ferejohn
From: niel@cars.com (Niel Bornstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Judge kills
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 09:25:10 EDT
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In article <1if2ajINNdd1@savoy.cc.williams.edu> (rec.arts.marching.drumcorps,rec.arts.marching.misc), 95lnm@williams.edu (Lisa Masterman) writes:
>In article <1993Jan5.201813.3851@hpcvusn.cv.hp.com> tomg@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Thomas J. Gilg) writes:
>>
>>I can't help but wonder if there's a football notes group talking about
>>"band kills".
>
>In high school we used to wait right along the sideline just before the end
>of the second period, and during my time we had a cymbal player thoroughly
>flattened when she wasn't paying attention.  Before my time, we had a bass
>drum player taken out; the football player put himself through the head of
>the drum....

I got hit in the chest by a football once while waiting to go on before
halftime.  Didn't hurt a bit, but the shock of it kinda stunned me
and I felt really stupid.  But then I guess I was really stupid at
the time.  I was maybe 15 years old, and not a very good player or
marcher.

Niel

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From: jakilpat@tostada.engr.ucdavis.edu (John Andrew Kilpatrick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Ohio University
Date: 6 Jan 93 02:16:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: College of Engineering - University of California - Davis

In article <1993Jan5.063142.19376@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> jclark@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (J. Michael Clark) writes:
>I've noticed a lot of subjects mentioning high step... How many have seen
>the Ohio University Marching 110?? "The Most Exciting Band in the Land!"
>Our marching style is not only a high step but also requires our calves
>to be extended outward when we march. I will elaborate further if anyone else
>is interested. Also watch for the Marching 110 in Pres. Clinton's Inauguration
>Parade on January 20th.   

That sounds like our (The Cal-Aggie Marching Band-uh!) high step.  Our thighs
must be parallel to the ground, our toes must point as far down as possible, and
we stick our calves forward.
 
I dunno if it's unique or not, but I like it.
-- 
******************************John A. Kilpatrick*******************************
*"I gotta fly like a duck.......... | Alternate lyrics for "Back to Paradise" *
* I gotta run like a wounded badger"|    from Gundam 0083: StarDust Memory    *
*************************jakilpat@taco.engr.ucdavis.edu************************
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