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From: v3bx@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Krishnan Ramaswamy)
Subject: Re: an intesting question...
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 01:05:23 GMT

In article <6826@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au> dlow@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au.ua.oz (David J Low) writes:
>From article <1992Apr12.234347.1240@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, by v3bx@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Krishnan Ramaswamy):
>>  Details of hat trick stuff deleted

>> As for the question if this has ever happened in a first class match ,
>> well I do know that there hav been hat tricks spread over the 2 innings.
>> But I am not sure if they were distributed over 3 overs. ( Courtney Walsh
>> took a hat trick in AUstralia once I guess. Could that hav on these lines ??)
>
>     Merv Hughes has certainly performed the above trick, against the West
>     Indies.  From memory, the unluck third victim was Greenidge, who had to
>     open the innings facing a fired up Merv, upset over an incident in the
>     Australian innings (one of the bowlers got hit in the head near the
>     close).  This particular trick was spread over about 3 days......
>
>		   David.
>

In fact I was thinking of Merv Hughes when I posted the above article.

Was it not the same series ( or even the same match) in which Walsh

took his hat trick too. Maybe some body could post details of both 

hat-tricks.

Krishnan
From: sterenborg@amc.uva.nl
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Wicket keeper taking ball in front of stumps.
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:53:50 GMT
Organization: Central computer department

In article <BM5w1M.CF@world.std.com>, eac@world.std.com (Eric A Cottrell) writes:
> In <1992Mar30.131756.9612@lut.ac.uk> K.K.W.Ho@uk.ac.lut (Kelvin Ho) writes:
> 
> 
>>     Can anyone confirm that in either in the indoor or outdoor version of the
>>game a keeper is not allowed to take a ball, legally bowled and makes no
>>contact with any part of the batsman, forward from the line of the stumps?
> 
> Isn't this know as KBW (Keeper before Wicket)?
> 
> 73 Eric Cottrell eac@world.std.com


KBW is a no ball signalled by the square leg umpire - I've been no-balled
this way looking for a stumping

JP 	email STERENBORG@AMC.UVA.NL
Xref: sparky rec.sport.cricket:10620 soc.culture.indian:13793
From: tejas@chopin.udel.edu (Tejas N Modi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket,soc.culture.indian
Subject: RETIRES....... D. VENGSARKAR
Keywords: Bye... bye... See you dude....
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:15:50 GMT
Followup-To: y
Organization: University of Delaware

Hay.... guss what who is retire.....now....

		
	Dilip
		Balwant
			  Vengsarkar


 
Dilip Vengsarkar, 35, from competitive cricket...  The tall, elegant player 
was next only to former indian cap. " Sunil Gavasker " in indian Test
run-accumulators.  He has scored 6,868 runs in 116 Tests, including 17
centuries, since his debut against New Zealand in 1976....

say adios...to him....

				===> TEJAS MODI
				     (UNIVERSITY OF DELAWARE)
				     tejas@chopin.udel.edu
From: ckhan@BBN.COM
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Massachusetts Cricket
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:57:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.kup668INNf80
Reply-To: ckhan@BBN.COM ()
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

The Massachusetts State Cricket League is about to begin its 1992 season.
There are 17 teams in the league and the season runs from May 2nd to
September 26th.

If anyone would like to play cricket this summer, drop me a line at
ckhan@bbn.com or call me at 617-287-0452 in the evening or at 617-873-6119
during the working day.

Chico.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: raza@surya.ccs.uwo.ca (Mr. Raza Syed)
Subject: Re: Popularity of Cricket
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 21:28:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.170905.31715@m.cs.uiuc.edu> bharat@cs.uiuc.edu writes:
>cheriv@nason110.its.rpi.edu (Vinay M. Cherian) writes:
>>Where would cricket be ranked in terms of popularity?
>
>>Would it come second, after Soccer??
>
>I don't know about cricket, but basketball is number 2.  I would guess
>cricket to be very far down the list because of the amount of
>equipment needed to play the game.  At a rough guess soccer,
>basketball, tennis, volleyball, table tennis, badminton, and hockey
>would be more popular than cricket (if popular = number of people that
>play the sport).
>
>>Just curious,
>
>>Vinay
>
>bharat
>--
I think according to recent survey by CNN cricket is among top five sports,
but i dont know about its exact standing.  Much Music(this may or may
not be a good reference) of Canada also mention this thing on the eve
after final, when they give special song (We are the Champs by ??) on
Pakistan's victory.

From viewer ship point of view WC final was watched by 1500 million
people all over the world.

S.R.Raza.


Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: asim@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Asim Omair)
Subject: Re: Popularity of Cricket
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin Tx.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:13:43 GMT

In article <10703950.7@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au> 10703950@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (BENJAMIN CUTLER) writes:
>In article <4640@cluster.cs.su.oz.au> tom@minnie.cs.su.OZ.AU (Thomas James Jones) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Apr7.170905.31715@m.cs.uiuc.edu>, bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (R. Bharat Rao) writes:
>>|> cheriv@nason110.its.rpi.edu (Vinay M. Cherian) writes:
>>|> >Where would cricket be ranked in terms of popularity?
>>|> 
>>|> >Would it come second, after Soccer??
>>|> 
>>|> I don't know about cricket, but basketball is number 2.  I would guess
>>|> cricket to be very far down the list because of the amount of
>>|> equipment needed to play the game.  At a rough guess soccer,
>>|> basketball, tennis, volleyball, table tennis, badminton, and hockey
>>|> would be more popular than cricket (if popular = number of people that
>>|> play the sport).
>>|> 
>>        I would agree, though, that soccer probably would
>>        win internationally.
>>        tom j. jones
>
>Soccer is probably the most popular in number of countries in which it is 
>played. But it is also the most BORING of sports - no one scores !!
>The ball just goes from one end of the ground to the other and back again.

Yeah, how true and I guess majority of the world's population (including myself)
is stuipid since they enjoy watching it. :-)
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From: KSRAO@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: WI/SA OD-1 WI after 50 overs
Date: 7 Apr 1992 15:55:29 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

     WI have scored 288(or 289) in their 50 overs. 

Haynes c Henry b Donald 9 (27)
Lara c Wessels b Henry 50 (68)
Richardson lbw b Kuiper 30 (47)
Simmons c Wessel b Kuiper 123 (113)
Athurton c Wessel b Donald 27 (24)
Benjamin c Wessel b Kuiper 8 (5)
Hoper not out 19 (19)
Ambrose not out 0 (0)

303 balls wee bowled. The bowling figures did nor come on the screen at the end
of innings.

SA had Henry replacing Pringle (from the team that played England)
West Indies has the same team that played Australia (Jimmy Adams is the twelfth
man)

Tony Cozier was saying that Richardson got a distressing reception when he came
to bat.

The commentators that I heard are Henry Blindfolded and Tony Cozier with Hunt
and Holding as experts. Most probably SA has a different audio from this; this
may be the audio for SKY only.

K. Sankara Rao
From: azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Marsh, PTaylor, SWaugh, Reid, and Hughes dropped
Keywords: Controversy
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:14:09 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

The subject line says it all: Marsh, PTaylor, SWaugh, Reid, and Hughes
dropped from Aussie touring party. Hmmmmmmmmm!!!

Salman [Still wondering what is going on] Azhar


-- 
 I must, with emotional fire, burn or illume myself
 I must, with the heat of passion, melt or sublime myself
 I must, in flood of tears, drown or cleanse myself
 I must! I must! I must! For my people and myself -- D. Salman [Q] Azhar
From: K.K.W.Ho@lut.ac.uk (Kelvin Ho)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Australia's tour to Sri Lanka
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:28:21 GMT
Organization: Loughborough University, UK


     BBC CEEFAX teletext and Radio Five sports news both reported that
Australia will play three tests and three one-day internationals as part of a
five-week tour of Sri Lanka in August and September.  A 13-man squad will be
named before Easter.



Kelvin Ho,
Loughborough University of Technology,
Leicestershire,
England.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: ali@elara.ctr.columbia.edu (M. Ali Hanafi)
Subject: Re: good news about pakistan team!!!!
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:38:16 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.035646.3749@gw.wmich.edu> from x91ahmed4@gw.wmich.edu
one reads:

>good new guys.....pakistan is going to tour england for a cricket tournament
>and with help of God be victorius ........

Gosh, this must be a new desi Rip Van Winkle...  


P.S. Does God bowl fast out-swingers or off-cutters?


Bye, ;>

ali














Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: rajesh@unlv.edu (Rajesh Viswanathan)
Subject: Re: Popularity of Cricket
Organization: UNLV
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 17:10:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.170905.31715@m.cs.uiuc.edu> bharat@cs.uiuc.edu writes:
>cheriv@nason110.its.rpi.edu (Vinay M. Cherian) writes:
>>Where would cricket be ranked in terms of popularity?
>
>>Would it come second, after Soccer??
>
>I don't know about cricket, but basketball is number 2.  I would guess
>cricket to be very far down the list because of the amount of
>equipment needed to play the game.  At a rough guess soccer,
>basketball, tennis, volleyball, table tennis, badminton, and hockey
>would be more popular than cricket (if popular = number of people that
>play the sport).

Not! I posted an article several weeks back on this subject. The second
most popular sport (with popular = number of people that play the
sport) is handball. (source: CNN, # given=4.5M members) But Samuel Mallinson 
of Australia pointed out that according to IVBF- International Volleyball 
Federation that volleyball is the 2nd most popular sport as well as the fastest
growing sports. So what we have I guess is a three way tie for the
number two spot!!

>R. Bharat Rao, E-mail: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (bharat@kbesrl.me.uiuc.edu)
>AI Group, Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and Technology
>405 N. Matthews, Urbana, IL 61801  (217)-244-1263 (O) 244-8371(F)
>Electrical & Computer Engineering, University of Illinois, Urbana


-- 
Rajesh
:::"His mind is like a steel trap -- full of mice":::
:::               -- Foghorn Leghorn		  :::
From: KSRAO@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: SA/WI OD 2 SA scorecard
Date: 11 Apr 1992 12:18:03 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

West Indies won the toss and sent SA to bat. They were all out for 152 in 43.4
overs.

Hudson		run out			6 (25)  24
Wessels		c Williams b Ambrose	1 (9)   17
Kirsten		c Benjamin b Cummins    9 (23)  36
Kuiper		c Lara b Harper	       19 (64)  68
Cronje		run out		       22 (30)  98
Rhodes		run out		       45 (72) 146
Richardson	c Arthurton b Cummins 	8 (15) 118
Snell		c Arthurton b Cummins   8 (10) 138
Henry		not out			8 (10)
Pringle		b Ambrose		1 (4)  152
Donald		b Ambrose		0 (2)  152
   Extras  (2 nb 15w  10 lb)	27

Total (in 43.4 overs  264 balls)      152


Bowling

Ambrose		7.4	0	24	3	0	7
Patterson	9	2	30	0	0	3
Cummins		9	0	40	3	0	3
Benjamin	8	0	21	0	2	2
Harper		10	0	27	1	0	0

Rao
	 				
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: raghavav@cs.rpi.edu (Vijay Raghavan)
Subject: Re: rec.sport.cricket
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Computer Science, Troy NY
Distribution: rec.sport.cricket
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 02:06:35 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.200654.11716@Princeton.EDU> sguha@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Saumyen Guha) writes:

>>(3) Has Gavasker taken any test wickets? If so, how many? Details.
>> 
>Two. Denis Amiss(1974-75) and Zahir Abbas(1978 or 79, Kapil's debu.
>series).
>-Saumyen

I think Zahir Abbas was very close to a century when Gavasker got him. Am I
right?

vijay



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From: x91ahmed4@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: good news about pakistan team!!!!
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:56:46 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

good new guys.....pakistan is going to tour england for a cricket tournament
and with help of God be victorius ........
From: karnik@cs.umn.edu (Neeran Mohan Karnik)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: rec.sport.cricket
Date: 12 Apr 92 16:09:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr12.160931.5588
Distribution: rec.sport.cricket
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

In <1992Apr11.184138.27459@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu> aksimha@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Arun Simha) writes:

>In article <1992Apr10.181524.12591@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> fotedar@galileo.uucp (Sunil Fotedar [MDSSC]) writes:

>>(3) Has Gavasker taken any test wickets? If so, how many? Details.

>  Zaheer Abbas ct S.Amarnath b Gavaskar 196.
					 ^^^
					 96!!

	Yeah, that was a real spoil-sport wicket, 'cos Zaheer had got a ton in
the first innings (a big one too). Some others have said that Gavaskar also got
the wicket of Dennis Amiss, but I fear that's wrong. It may have been in an ODI
but Zaheer's was his only Test wicket.

>   imitating Qadir so well. :-) <----this is a smiley, it means that the
>   above statement was made in jest. 
	
	Ha ha ha ha! I guess that was necessary.......
>   
>>Sunil Fotedar

> Arun 

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: kdesai@bnr.ca (Kalpit Desai P265)
Subject: Re: Cricket balls.
Reply-To: kdesai@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR Inc., RTP, NC 27709
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 18:17:45 GMT

In article <1992Apr06.183750.24004@eng.umd.edu>, sanju@eng.umd.edu (Munjal Sanjeev) writes:
|> I need information on buying good quality and reasonably priced
|> cricket balls. Our team plays in the local league in the Washington
|> metropolitan area. Presently we pay $26 per ball. Is there a place
|> where we can buy for cheaper? We need about 20 balls.
|> Any information on address, telephone # of vendor, price etc will be 
|> appreciated. Other netters may have similar needs, so you may respond
|> on rsc or send me e-mail and I will post a summary. 


I'd appreciate if you could post your responses as we are also looking
for a company here in the States that sells Cricket equipment. Not only
are we looking for Balls and Bats buts also bowling mats and Practise
nets. If you know of any company that deals with Cricket equipment then
please let me have their addresses/phone numbers. If there is sufficient
interest I shall post the summary here.

Thanks,

+----------------+------------------------------+------------------------+
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| kdesai@bnr.ca  |     Research Triangle Park   |  FAX:   (919) 991 7001 |
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From: mamohamm@vela.acs.oakland.edu (SKEPTICAL)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: good news about pakistan team!!!!
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:37:12 GMT
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.

In article <1992Apr9.143816.6945@ctr.columbia.edu>, ali@elara.ctr.columbia.edu (M. Ali Hanafi) writes:
> In article <1992Apr9.035646.3749@gw.wmich.edu> from x91ahmed4@gw.wmich.edu
> one reads:
> 
> >good new guys.....pakistan is going to tour england for a cricket tournament
> >and with help of God be victorius ........

> Gosh, this must be a new desi Rip Van Winkle...  


> P.S. Does God bowl fast out-swingers or off-cutters?


	Got a mean late leg cutter too....I heard.
Regards,




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Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: raza@surya.ccs.uwo.ca (Mr. Raza Syed)
Subject: Re: Popularity of Cricket ++!
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 02:19:35 GMT

In article <ku4r8dINNiu6@aludra.usc.edu> vnesiah@usc.edu (Deep Third Man) writes:
>
> 
> In article <1992Apr7.212818.6642@julian.uwo.ca> writes:
> >In article <1992Apr7.170905.31715@m.cs.uiuc.edu> bharat@cs.uiuc.edu writes:
> >>cheriv@nason110.its.rpi.edu (Vinay M. Cherian) writes:
> >>>Where would cricket be ranked in terms of popularity?
> >>
> >>>Would it come second, after Soccer??
> >>
> >>I don't know about cricket, but basketball is number 2.  I would guess
> >>cricket to be very far down the list because of the amount of
> >>equipment needed to play the game.  At a rough guess soccer,
> >>basketball, tennis, volleyball, table tennis, badminton, and hockey
> >>would be more popular than cricket (if popular = number of people that
> >>play the sport).
> 
> In Western terms, I think popularity would be gauged by the number of people
> who would pay to see the sport (on tv or in person).
> 
> >>
> >>--
> >I think according to recent survey by CNN cricket is among top five sports,
> >but i dont know about its exact standing.  Much Music(this may or may
> >not be a good reference) of Canada also mention this thing on the eve
> >after final, when they give special song (We are the Champs by ??) on
> >Pakistan's victory.
> 
> Does anyone have any more info on the CNN survey or the Canadian survey?
> 
> BTW, the rock group QUEEN sang the song "We are the Champions..."

Right you are.

> 
> >
> >From viewer ship point of view WC final was watched by 1500 million
> >people all over the world.
> 
> Where did you get this?  I am doing some research into the commercial
> potential of cricket and I would love to have as much facts as possible.

I got this from clippings of daily 'Jang' Karachi, it was also said that
telecast goes to 30 countries. BTW i would like to know the names of 
those 30 countries, any one in Australia can tell us more accurately
about viewership statistics.
BTW for those of you who dont know, this WC got tremendous follwing in
Canada, according to TSN(the sports nerwork) they never got so much
inquiries even for baseball game, toronto star set up a hot line for
updates and publish reports on all matches daily including latest
photo every day, after final they give the news in the top right
corner of front page, and give details covering full one and a half
page in sports section.
> 
>Does anoyone have any ideas as to where I could get some lit on this topic?
>Has there been any research done in other countries?


>
> >
> >S.R.Raza.
> >
> >
> 
> Thanks in advance for the reply,
> 
> Vasee
><vnesiah@aludra.usc.edu>
> 

S.R.Raza.
From: ccrob@uqvax.cc.uq.oz.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Prabhakar and Tendulkar
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:28:54 AEST
Organization: The Prentice Centre, Uni of Queensland, Brisbane, Australia

In article <9204070247.AA21101@sawwhet.owlnet.rice.edu>, pvr@rice.edu (Narasimha Pvr) writes:
>
> I don't think we need to wait for a couple of years to make him VC. He can be
> made now itself! What's wrong with that? Have him as VC. Make him captain in
> 3-4 years. Then we will have a good captain for India for 15 years! :-)
> 
> If Tendulkar starts doing well (upto his potential) in the coming few years, I
> don't think making him skipper at 23 will be that bad (i.e. with 7 years
> experience)!
> 
> Seriously, is age that important? Remember, Manjrekar came into intrernational
> cricket at around the same time as did Tendulkar (Manjrekar played WI (only
> one test, I think) in a home series and then he went to WI under Vengsarkar.
> Those were the only series he played without SRT in the team). His experience
> as the skipper of Bombay is also very little (courtesy Veng and Shastri). So,
> he hardly has a lead over SRT.
> 
> When one talks about SRT, people may have a small kid in mind and may object
> strongly to making him VC now. But, he has an experience of 2 years and 4
> months. If he came into the team at 22, people would've strongly consiedred
> him as a candidate for the VC spot with the same experience. Somehow, people
> attach more importance to age than experience.

You must remember, though, that captaincy entails much more than cricket
experience.

Consider a situation where India is touring the West Indies. Azhar gets
brained by Curtley Ambrose and must return home (a la Mike Gatting). You
now have a 19 year old vice captain leading the touring party not just
for the cricket matches, but for the *tour*.

This 19 year old *must* have the respect of his peers, not just for his
cricketing ability, but for his people skills. He will have to help select
teams. He will have to take his part in conflict resolution inside the
touring party (every tour group has a clash or two). He will have to help
track down the lost luggage. He's got to give speeches, answer phones,
maintain discipline etc etc etc.

Where is his captaincy experience? Does he have any (I don't know, myself,
since I've only seen him in this country). I'm sure he has a great cricket
brain. But has he been through the mill at Test level. Not yet he hasn't.

Tendulkar is a fine cricketer, and will/may develop into a fine captain.
Brilliant batsman though he is, he still must mature like evrybody else.

Prabakhar: Yes, he's got a temper, and talks on the field. But he's a
good cricketer, has guts and gives 100%. He's exactly what India needs.
(The Indian version of Merv Hughes?)

Just my thoughts - I could be wrong.

--
Rob.