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From: c60c-3gi@web-3e.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: my apologies...
Date: 29 Sep 92 05:13:15 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Originator: c60c-3gi@web-3e.berkeley.edu


after I made a psoting on what I thought about the RSS, jim emailed me
saying:

>|> All I said was I did not learn anything.
>
>You also made a recommendation which I absolutely disagree with:
> 
>|> For a person such as myself, who is under 21 and has already been
>|> riding motorcycles for a year and a half, I thought the course
>|> was utterly useless.
>
>I was trying to politely point out that there are people who feel
>they fit into the category you have outlined above that clearly
>*would* benefit from the RSS in a way that could save their lives.

I'd like to apologize to all the ba.motorcycles readers.  After reading 
over what I wrote, I've figured out that I've said what I said in a wrong
manner and the way I said it would probably make even myself mad.  I also
failed to mention that I *was* taught by a experienced rider how to ride 
when I started.

>Please don't make such vague blanket recommendations when you don't
>really know your audience (in this case, the people to whom you were
>directing your recommendation).

my next apology being that I did not say what I said as a recommendation.
I simply wrote it to express me thought but as I said before, if I had
read that, I would also have taken that as a recommendation.  Im really
sorry.

my point is that I was taught how to ride by an expert rider, and that
I tried to say that I would recommend others to take thew course if they 
were never formally taught before.  In my particular case, I already
knew everything that was taught in the RSS since I was already taught before
hand.


---Masayuki Karahashi
c60c-3gi@web.berkeley.edu
"I think it's time to change major"
From: delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu (Lisa DeLorme)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Any Volunteers????
Date: 29 Sep 1992 05:24:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

By now many of you have seen the post about how we were able to get more
cycle parking in Berkeley last year.....

I still need a volunteer out there to distribute flyers this year if we
would like to ask for more parking (I can give you last years or make up
your own). Photocopying the flyer and putting a copy on each of the bikes
parked around campus only takes about 2 hours. (more if you do it more than one day to make sure you get everyone)

And if you don't volunteer, do at least call Mr. DeLeuw and register a
request (and thank him for previous efforts on our behalf)


Thanks



-- 
Lisa DeLorme                            
delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu           
DOD #363/ 80 KZ250, (mouse bike), 82 KZ440
                     Hey, I'm finally an acronym: DBNI  (Double bike, no income)
From: c60c-3gi@web-3e.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: selling YSR's
Date: 1 Oct 92 05:21:26 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

In article <23937@sybase.sybase.com> thorick@sybase.com (Thorick Chow) writes:

>>>(I had originally posted this on the company MC list only, but I figured
>>>what the hell, it's probably at least as interesting as reading
>>>about YSR50's for sale  (I hope)  :-) )
>>
>>hey, some people go around looking for these things you know.
>>
>>			Masa
>
>
>Yo  Masa...  I guess this could be quite a task, 
>
>	until one remembers to tilt the head downwards while looking  :-)
>

Yo Thorick... I sold my YSR some time after that posting.. to an adult..

        for 1100 dollars too...

---Masayuki Karahashi
c60c-3gi@web.berkeley.edu
"Project 3 isn't hard, so I think I'lls tay with CS"
Xref: sparky ba.motorcycles:427 rec.motorcycles:33959
From: johng@informix.com (John Galloway)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: The DoD ERC (was Re: RSS)
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:47:44 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Galloway Research

Concerning Mojo's ERC:  where was it given and what sort of range
was used for the riding part?  (i.e. parking lot, ...)
	-jrg

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Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: hamid@rs.com (Hamid R. Moazed)
Subject: Re: Recommandations needed: Bike for beginne
Reply-To: hamid@rs.com
Organization: Renaissance Software, Inc.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 01:49:42 GMT

In article 270992222934@kip-36.apple.com, mercer@newton.apple.com (Paul Mercer) writes:
>In article <1992Sep26.014845.19976@microunity.com>, ericm@microunity.com
>(Eric Murray) wrote:
>> 
>> In article <1992Sep25.164527.30529@davidsys.com> graphics@davidsys.com writes:
>> >Hi, I am a beginning rider and this will be my first time shopping
>> >for my own bike.  Can some one tell me which of the following will
>> >fit me or any beginners the most.  My height is 5'6", I am potentially
>> >very interested in something more sporty looking, but no too heavy like...
>> >
>> >	Yamaha FZR 400 (only available in used models)
>> >	Kawasaki Ninja 250R
>> >	Susuki GS550S
>> >	 or any other suggestions???
>> 
>My first bike was a used Ninja 250 in '89.  Paid about $2K for it.  Had
>lots of fun w/ it over that summer.  Dropped it a couple of times but I
>didn't fret much because it was relatively cheap.  Once I decided I was
>really going to like riding, I got a CBR600 -- sold the Ninja for a couple
>of hundred dollars less.  Worked out great for me.
>
>I've always had my eye on the FZR400.  Much more sporting than the Ninja
>and much smoother (4 instead of 2 cylinders).  I've seen high mileage (10K)
>specimans for $3K.
>
>Paul Mercer
>Apple Computer, Inc.
>Blah-blah-blah


How about a Bandit 400? Revs smooth all the way to it's 14,000 RPM
redline, and is relatively light and nimble. As a beginner, you needn't
worry about dropping it, it wont even get a scratch (except the muffler
which you can spray paint with black engine paint like I did). As far
as I know it makes more horspower than the other 400s sold in the US (47).
The Japanese Bandit "V" makes 59 horses, but you can't get 'em here in
the US (but for around $8K Grey Roberts Imports will get you one, kinda
steep for a 400, though).

---
       Hamid R. Moazed | "The drill bit lodged in my skull
       Project Manager |    causes me no small amount of pain,
  Renaissance Software |  but as I recall life without it
         Los Altos, CA |    was really much the same..."
   email: hamid@rs.com |                        -KILLDOZER

Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: eajjs@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (john.sottile)
Subject: Re: Crazed Taxi Drivers in SF
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: ba
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 23:02:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.185846.27314@eos.arc.nasa.gov> phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Phil Stone) writes:
>In article <8060@public.BTR.COM> news@btr.BTR.COM (news admin news@btr.com) writes:
>>
>> I split lanes here in SF. I probably shouldn't (it's not like
>> my bike will overheat waiting for a traffic light to change)
>> but I regard it as my prerogative ('cause car drivers try to 
>> kill me every day).
>>
>> Anyway, I've noticed that taxi drivers appear to resent this
>> splitting lanes mightily. Many's the time I've had a taxi 
>> driver try to kill me [...]
>>
>Hmm, I'm much more wary of the Muni bus drivers than the taxi hacks.
>I can almost guarantee that a Muni bus will run a freshly red light
>if given the opportunity.
>

I think that the taxi-motorcycle thing stems from a few things.  A lot
of my fellow mc riders can test any four wheeler's patience.  I know that I
will hop in front of a car when stopping for lights.  It gets me through
the city faster which is the whole reason I ride in the city to begin
with.  But, no offense, some riders are zipping all over the place.  Around
on the right, left, between, and over :-)  They seem to never be happy with
the new vector they've ploted through traffic.  I know I've almost been
nailed following these guys.

I think in the case of taxi's, who "own" the city (let's face it, it's
their job to KNOW how to get through traffic), it may be a little it of
jealousy.  Watching a bike come from behind you and then 4-5 blocks
past you can re-direct your disgust for traffic to a particular
individual "cheating" as they see it.  Of course, if they could, they would
do what we do.  I guess, when we split lanes, dodge and hop, they feel
that we are in their way -- even though only for a second or two :-)

When in my car and driving through the city, I make as much room as possible.
The anger towards traffic can become a smile when I think "hey, if I were
on my bike, I'd be home now."  And, the next time, I take the bike.  Thank
God it doesn't rain much here.


=============================
John Sottile                             "That Guy has to Oil his Brakes!"
AT&T Bell Labs                           #include <std/disclaimer/who-me?.h>
jjs@cblph.att.com

Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: c150-bt@po.berkeley.edu (Manish Vij)
Subject: Re: Do you want more MC parking? We got it last year, why not now?
Keywords: How to get it!
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:46:48 GMT

In article <+7_pk=-.jfh@netcom.com> jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
>In article <1a7vk6INNmac@agate.berkeley.edu> ausman@ocf.berkeley.edu (James 
>Ausman) writes:
>>
>>Heah, I got an idea.  When a bounch of us all take up one parking space, 
>>let's all agree to feed the meter together.  This sort of happens informally, 
>>but the more we do this, the better it will be for all of us!
>
>I've heard that that's also illegal (robs the city of its rightful income,
>even though there aren't any other empty spaces with meters for you to
>feed).  That might be a local thing, though - I couldn't find it in the
>vehicle code. 

The meter fascists in Berkeley say it's legal to park several motorcycles
in one parallel parking space, as long as each is 3' away from either
end of the space (from the white crosses on the pavement), and the
meter is fed.

Manish
                                          /-\o /-()  -- -  --   -
   Manish Vij    ::    '89 EX500          \_/ \\/ )  -- -    --
   mvij@ocf.berkeley.edu                       |/_\  -- -  --   - 
                                                \_/.  .  . . ........
From: c150-bt@po.berkeley.edu (Manish Vij)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Do you want more MC parking? We got it last year, why not now?
Keywords: How to get it!
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:34:41 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley

In article <1a7vk6INNmac@agate.berkeley.edu> ausman@ocf.berkeley.edu (James Ausman) writes:
>Well, I have been told that it is illeagal to park within 3 feet of the little crosses. I have
>gotten a ticket for it twice, too and had to talk my way out of another one.  Both times I was
>downtown, though.  I regularly park between cars on Southside and only got a ticket once (and
>that was by a beat cop on Durant on a Saturday night - he apparantly had nothing better to do).
>

I got a ticket 2 weeks ago for parking behind a car at a metered spot.'
Strangely enough, one was for the 3 feet rule, the other was for "expired
meter."  Think about this for a second; there was no metered spot behind
that car.

So I'm contesting it (although contesting parking tickets in Berkeley
is as productive as peeling scabs off -- and about as fun.)

The meter person administration tells me that it's illegal to park
between cars.  I just wish I could know when it's enforced and
when it isn't.

>Heah, I got an idea.  When a bounch of us all take up one parking space, let's all agree to 
>feed the meter together.  This sort of happens informally, but the more we do this, the better
>it will be for all of us!

Good idea.

>Jim Ausman

Manish
                                          /-\o /-()  -- -  --   -
   Manish Vij    ::    '89 EX500          \_/ \\/ )  -- -    --
   mvij@ocf.berkeley.edu                       |/_\  -- -  --   - 
                                                \_/.  .  . . ........
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: mojo@Caere.COM (Morris Jones)
Subject: Re: Crazed Taxi Drivers in SF
Organization: Caere Corp.
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:49:53 GMT

news@btr.BTR.COM (news admin news@btr.com) writes:
> Anyway, I've noticed that taxi drivers appear to resent this
> splitting lanes mightily.

Heh.  I was in stopped traffic on the central freeway once (pre-quake)
NOT lane splitting, and a taxi driver in the adjacent lane rolled down
his window and said, "Hey, why don't you go on ahead between the cars?"

Takes all kinds ...

Mojo
-- 
Morris Jones
Caere Corp.
mojo@caere.com
From: jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Shoei X-8 Who has one?
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:38:55 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

In article <txd.717864224@Able.MKT.3Com.Com> txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich) writes:
>true nature of the problem became apparent  when I got he Sportster
>running, and was greeted with the quietest helmet I've ever worn.

Well of *course* it was quiet. You were on the sporster! Wind noise
is as loud as a rat fart compared to that thing! Hee hee...
I'm back... How about a  steak & ale party soon? (da-rool, da-rool)

jim

-- 
*   Jim Franklin * jamesf@btr.com OR {decwrl,mips,fernwood}!btr!jamesf      *
*   (insert new bike here)   | Nothing hurts like the loss one feels when   *
* Triumph 650 (slalom champ) | they lose their first love, get fired from   * 
* DoD #469          KotP(un) | their first job, or sell their first bike.   *
From: billh@bleep.com (Bill Hassell)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Anbody use "Accinelli's Cycle Goodies"?
Summary: Bad Experience
Keywords: SLIMY
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:46:45 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Bleep node,  Boulder Creek, CA

In article <ZOWIE.92Sep27123158@daedalus.stanford.edu>, zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu (Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest) writes:
> In article <foo@bar> jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>    Some guy approached me while I was gassing up the cb750 and said
>    "Looks like you'll be needing a rear tire soon -- I've got great
>    prices and good service."  Handed me a card that says:
> 
>    Accinelli's CYcle Goodies
> 	...
> 
> I've had several Accinelli cards placed on my bike, over the two years
> I've been riding around Palo Alto / Mtn View.  I visited there once,
> when I needed new tires.  The guy operates out of his garage.
> Probably will fix you up, but his traditional high-pressure sales
> tactics really turned me off.  He kept trying to sell me really soft,
> sticky tires that I didn't want, because "they're more fun".
> 
> At that time, my bike was seriously loud -- it needed new stuffing for
> the Kerker muffler.  He offered to re-pack the muffler for a "mere"
> $75.  Considering that re-packing it took me, a muffler novice, about
> ten minutes to do (unscrew a single screw, pull core, wrap core, push
> core, replace screw), I consider him a bit of a con artist.
> 
> I ended up getting tires from Cycle City.  They have pretty reasonable
> prices, and, with them, I know that they'll provide support if I've
> got any problems (Accinelli's vocabulary doesn't seem to include the
> word `warranty'.)
> --
Years ago I went here for a tire and he convinced me to get a Michelin
rear tire.  Didn't like the way the tire felt or wore and never went
back. I get all my tires at Zoom cycles in Santa Clara now. They have
great prices on Metzlers and if you take the wheel off the bike, they
mount and balance the tire for free! Most times I just take the wheel
off right in the parking lot and hand it to them. It takes them a half-
hour to change the tire (about two beers in bar across street).
Just a happy customer.
Bill Hassell


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From: eajjs@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (john.sottile)
Subject: Re: HELMET AUDIO (was Re: Tunes on a bike?)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: ba
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 06:59:02 GMT

In article <ZOWIE.92Sep24163530@daedalus.stanford.edu> zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu (Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest) writes:
>In article <foo.bar@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
>
>A while ago, I decided I wanted one of those headset-in-the-helmet
>setups like you see on GoldBlimps (or is that BoatWings?) -- but,

HEY!  I resemble that remark!  :-)


=============================
John Sottile                             "That Guy has to Oil his Brakes!"
AT&T Bell Labs                           #include <std/disclaimer/who-me?.h>
jjs@cblph.att.com
From: ausman@ocf.berkeley.edu (James Ausman)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Do you want more MC parking? We got it last year, why not now?
Keywords: How to get it!
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:05:58 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: hailstorm.berkeley.edu

In article <1a0rfnINNfaf@agate.berkeley.edu> delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu (Lisa DeLorme) writes:
>  [ a great article about lobbying the City of Berkeley for more parking places]

>PS: A Berkeley meter person told me it is legal to park between cars in berkeleyas long as you are two inches away from the white cross, it's just one opinion
>but it's the rule I use and I've never gotten nailed yet, and I normally get
>nailed every time I park illegally.

Well, I have been told that it is illeagal to park within 3 feet of the little crosses. I have
gotten a ticket for it twice, too and had to talk my way out of another one.  Both times I was
downtown, though.  I regularly park between cars on Southside and only got a ticket once (and
that was by a beat cop on Durant on a Saturday night - he apparantly had nothing better to do).

>Happy parking,
>
Yeah, but watch out for those meter readers!!! (downtown at least)

Heah, I got an idea.  When a bounch of us all take up one parking space, let's all agree to 
feed the meter together.  This sort of happens informally, but the more we do this, the better
it will be for all of us!

Jim Ausman
-- 
	"You are not thinking.  You are merely being logical."
				-Niels Bohr to A. Einstein 
				(during their famous debates on QM)
From: news@btr.BTR.COM (news admin news@btr.com)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Do you want more MC parking? We got it last year, why not now?
Keywords: How to get it!
Date: 30 Sep 92 06:07:54 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

>>The real reason I contest tickets is that I have an overdeveloped sense
>>of justice (at least when it comes to me :-) ) and an underdeveloped
>>income.
 
 Point 1)  I want to contest a bunch of parking tickets. Where do I go?
           To the Courthouse down on 7th and Bryant?

 Point 2)  The current quota for meter-Nazis is 17.6 citations per day.
           Scum. Just scum.


 Stef

-- 
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                dba Live-Wire Technologies (a consulting writing business)
   "If you're going to crash, then do it on the first lap because then you
    don't wear the engine out for nothing" - Jon Ekerold, 350cc World Champion
From: jimi@well.sf.ca.us (Jim Isom)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Injury update
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:04:17 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link

First, let me thank all the kind souls who comiserated with me regarding the
dropping of my Radian.  The story continues.  Seeing an orthopedic surgeon,
I found that I have a torn posterior cruciate ligament in my right knee.
Very bad.

The gxsr exacerbates this, due to the acuteness of the angle included between
the tibia and the femur.  Solution: get a bike that doesn't ask so much of 
the knee.  

I picked up my R100GS on Friday.  I am now ready to handle some longer rides,
at least I think so.

Anyone up for the Ride 'n Soak next weekend?

?
-- 
Jim Isom            jimi@well.sf.ca.us             |     2b+~2b=1 
'92 R100GS (Unnamed as yet), GSXR-750M (Nefertiti), '86 Radian (Minerva)
From: c60c-3gi@web-3e.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: RSS
Date: 29 Sep 92 03:13:29 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

In article <lceosjINNkjv@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> flar@bendenweyr.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Graham) writes:

>I have talked to a number of people who have not taken this course
>and have been riding for years and still don't understand what
>countersteering is.  These are people who feel that they know
>how to ride a motorcycle and given that they love to tell about
>their 105MPH exploits in the hills up by Alice's, must think that
>they know everything there is to know about riding a bike and yet
>they don't even know how they turn the bike.

I did not say anywhere in my posting that I think of myself as an expert
rider.  I do not and will not as long as I ride.  I think no one is really
an expert, there are always new things to learn.

>Unless they've changed the course content drastically since I took
>it 2 years ago, countersteering is taught in the RSS (along with a
>lot more about street riding strategies and hazards to look out for)
>and could save someone's life.

...and I did say in my posting that I would recommend people with no 
experience to take this course.  All I said was I did not learn anything.

---Masayuki Karahashi
c60c-3gi@web.berkeley.edu
"I think it's time to change major"
From: c60c-3gi@web-3c.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: RSS
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:10:48 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Originator: c60c-3gi@web-3c.berkeley.edu

I just finished taking the begginers course (RSS) with Motorcycle
Saftey Training course, Inc. (up in either Oakland, Newark, or San
Jose) and since there were all those postings about the course couple
of weeks ago, I just thought I'd post my thoughts on it:

For a person such as myself, who is under 21 and has already been
riding motorcycles for a year and a half, I thought the course
was utterly useless.  But yeah, for a person who has never ridden
a motorcycle before in hius life, regardless of his age, the I would
definately recommend goinf to that course.

Also, when we were having the classroom lesson, they were holding the
ERC outside.  During one of the breaks, I was talking to some of the
riders participating and all of them thought that course was worthwile.
I will probably take that course sometime later in my life.

---Masayuki Karahashi
c60c-3gi@web.berkeley.edu
"I think it's time to change major"
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Independent Biker mag
From: feinstei@vax.sonoma.edu
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:40:34 -0800
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sonoma State University

In article <1aoko0INNfld@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, odin@cats.ucsc.edu (Jon Granrose) writes:
> 
> My only problem is that I haven't been able to find a place that has them
> in Santa Cruz.  Anyone know of one?
> 

I think I saw an ad in a recent IB (hey, they're all recent; they've 
only published 4 or 5 issues! :) saying essentially, "If you know of
someplace that would let us leave a stack'o'mags laying around, give 
us a call." Find the ad or give IB a call and then talk to your 
favorite dealer or biker cafe. 

As to the comments made that IB is a thinly veiled cheerleader for 
Mars Custom Cycle, I think that *all* media, from NBC right down to the
Santa Cruz Sentinel are somewhat beholden to their advertisers; what I
do is try to keep that fact in mind while I get what I can out of the 
media. And I do think IB has a lot of good stories. There was one a 
couple issues back about math and physics and motorcycles that was 
outstanding. So yeah, although IB is biased like everything else, it 
has a nice local perspective and has some good things to say. And you 
can't beat the price.

Happy trails . . .

Josh                            1970 R75/5
feinstei@sonoma.edu