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From: HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET (Paul Heroy)
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Subject: Re: YO!!
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:13:50 GMT
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On Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:51:00 EDT Jim Kirkman (LP) said:
>OK, now I need some info. I now have access to the great cloud known
>as the Internet. It's a wonderful thing but it has no Allmusic. Our
>site, UNC at Chapel Hill is in the process of phasing bitnet out and
>there was a message put out that basically said that anything you
>access on bitnet you could get through the Internet. Is this true?,

This question has been the subject of many heated discussions on some of the
technical lists, but generally, maybe. That is, if you know what you want,
have the tools and patience to find it, and it's out there, you can get it.
One thing BITNET has is ease of use, especially if you're used to it (ok,
that's a tautology, I know). More specifically, BITNET lets you easily send
files and interactive messages without special software, so you can do things
like TELL LISTSERV AT <some node> GET <file>, without having to worry about
whether your computer has TCP/IP & FTP, and the other computer has anonymous
FTP implemented etc. Tools are evolving on the Internet, but as a sysprog here
said after jumping into Internet administration "the Internet really sucks and
it's about to fall apart from overload".

>can I get Allmusic as a list like the alt.music.xxx or whatever?

Any LISTSERV command that you send interactively can be sent in the body of
an e-mail message, so as long as you can address a site, you can access its
Listserver. Generally, using an address of listserv@<node name>.bitnet should
work. Some sites will have an actual Internet address you can use - for
example, AUVM (host of ALLMUSIC) has an Internet address of auvm.american.edu.
Also, some of the BITNET lists are gated to Usenet newsgroups. I think the
naming convention is bit.xxxx or something similar.

Paul Heroy
From: USTS060@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU (Dave Hall)
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Subject: Re: you read it, you call it
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:30:23 GMT
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              13 Oct 1992 12:25:42 GMT from <pdlemass@UNIX2.TCD.IE>

On Tue, 13 Oct 1992 12:25:42 GMT Something original said:
>In <ALLMUSIC%92100909140873@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> USTS060@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU (Dave
>Hall) writes:
>
>>     Well, I'm not really Irish, but my grandmother was a Kelly and my middle
>>name is Sean, is that close enough?
>
>NO!You have to live in a country for some length  of time to understand it's
>people and the way they think.(also to hear the good bands that don't
>ever make it into the crappy charts).
>
>>     Anyway, I try to think of all the Irish bands I listen to in order to
>>follow your train of thought.  Admittedly most of my favorites are not really
>>all that big time.
>>     The Pogues (okay, they're not really Irish, Shane McGowan is the only
>>true Irishman in the group, but they wanna be and that's good enough for me)
>
>Well actually , Terry Woods is from Ireland and so is Philip Shevron.
>Shane McGowan is London Irish , and most of  the rest of the members have some
>Irish connection .
>
>
>>spend most of their time and anger singing songs about English injustice,
>>i.e. Oliver Cromwell, the waste of Australians in Gallipoli, or the fate
>>of Irish-Americans in their new land.  I can't really think of any
>
>
>How many Pogues albums do you have ??????? Obviously not enough.
>You might as well say that all Bob Geldoff sings about is Ethiopia.
>The Pogues do have some songs about these but they sing about countless
>other topics.(e-mail me if you don't know).
>
>
>
>>Anti-Catholic songs.  BTW, how can the Pogues maintain any sense of Irish-
>>ness if Shane is gone and is to be replaced by another Brit--Joe Strummer?
>
>Well as I said above there is more than enough Irishness without Shane
>but why should they have to "maintain any sense of Irishness" in the
>first place .
>If you think about this statement you'll realise just how IGNORANT it is
>They play music that gets it's roots from irish music how much more of a
>"sense of irishness"do you need??
>People all over the wold play rock music , are you going to ask them
>how they can do this without being American????????
>
>Peter Lemass.
     I hereby stand fully chastised and extend any apologies to any I might
have offended. I must admit I hadn't really thought of it is this way.
My most sincere and humble apologies.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 07:58:11 EDT
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Top Allmusic Posters
              6 Oct 1992 12:12:34 EDT from <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.ED U>

What?  I'm only 57 on the charts?  Well, the week is young, isn't it?
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Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1992 23:00:15 EDT
From:         MMORSE@YORKVM1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Irish music/religion

I don't know Indigo Girls' music yet; will check it out, cuz this
ain't the first time I've heard good things. But with all due respect:
if you want music with a message, listen to Anton Webern's _Symphony_,
opus 21
Cheers,
Michael
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:01:27 CET
From:         Sebastian Welton <SWELTON@ESOC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Music to Boat by

>
>>I am now the proud owner of a 24' Rainbow class sloop.  And when I sloop--er,

Frigging In The Rigging - Sex Pistols (actually a rugby song but does have a
nautical bent.)

Seb
From: CCCAMMIE@MIZZOU1.BITNET (Cammie Milligan)
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Subject: TMBG Lyrics
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:14:13 GMT
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I just wanted to say thanx to D.T., Tim and everyone else who responded.
You helped ease my roommates' and my minds (and saved some arguments/sleepless
nights) :)  BTW Julie, I found out the album is _Flood_ just in case you were
wondering.

I think now I'm going to take your advice and try out the other albums...

--Camaro
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:56:46 MEZ
From:         Paul Hosken <RMCB@DLRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Ah! The Strawbs

  Ah, the Strawbs - that was a group-and-a-half!
  What ever happened to them in the end?

  Two of their best albums, namely 'Grave New World' and 'From The
  Witchwood' have been deleted for ages and have not been rereleased
  on CD. Atleast, not in europe or the US. I did manage to pick up
  'Grave New World' a couple of months back as a rather expensive
  Japanese import (which I think had had some remastering done, and
  sounds a lot better than some current CDs). Does anyone know if
  'Witchwood' is also available as an import CD?

Paul

 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Evening drew on with a change of opinion from left wing and right
And North accused South who were left with no doubt that they needed to fight
I cannot begin to understand
The suffering tonight
Fools must pretend to be wise
We've a faith that we use as a heavy disguise
                       -- John Ford ('Heavy Disguise' from 'Grave New World')
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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From: MICHAEL.WILLETT@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Michael Willett")
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Subject: Re: female blues singers
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:17:43 GMT
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Another outstanding female blues singer is Rory Block.  She's
got a fairly new CD out called "Mama's Blues."  She's also got
a brand new one out that got a good review in the Boston Globe.
Another top selling CD of hers is entitled "Turning Point."
She's actually even more popular in the Netherlands than in the
US.  She has a gold album there in Holland.

Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com
From: ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET (Leonard Watkins)
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Subject: Re: SELLOUT AGAIN
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:48:21 GMT
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              13 Oct 1992 23:32:22 KST from
              <DMetcalf%IC-LOG@WALKER-LTT.ARMY.MIL>

On Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:32:22 KST <DMetcalf%IC-LOG@WALKER-LTT.ARMY.MIL> said:
>ko sed:  If someone wants their music to appeal to all types of
>         listeners...
I think the word greed should appear somewhere in this discussion, IMHO when
an artist starts working just for the money instead of playing for himself
first, he is selling out and i believe you can tell when something is
coming from the heart cause they love what they're doing or because they're
trying to make a buck. A good example IMHO is Bonnie Raitt & Z Z Top if you
listen to their early stuff it feels much more real than what they've both
put out lately......L.W.
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:09:25 MEZ
From:         Paul Hosken <RMCB@DLRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: A Defense of Blues

  For me the blues don't need no defendin'. And, don't forget that the
blues had a baby...

Nuff said,
  Paul
From: ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET (Leonard Watkins)
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Subject: Re: Hellhound on my trail
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:12:37 GMT
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On Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:30:33 EDT Michael H. Bloom said:
>
>None of which you like.
Once again for those who can't read about the only Music i don't like is
heavy metal. Some i do like is Lyle Lovett, Django, MIles, Wes montgomery
Joe Walsh, Mojo Nixon was humorous, Emmy Lou Harris, Segovia, Chet Atkins
Dire Straits (knopler),and alot of older stuff Eagles,Bad Company,...etc
I could probally tolerate most music except metal and some group trying to
shove thier politcal beliefs down my throat.....

Jimi used an effect after he played the note, the little machines that you
push a button and some digital doo-hickey makes the note is quite a bit
different. I did not say that you could sound like Jimi with no effects i
said he didn't need the new-tech stuff and he didn't. My point with the
champ is better stated this way...use an acoustic and play and then it's
just you and the guitar and thats a wonderful sound

>Yup, that's why the most in-demand drum machine programmers are also prominent
>among the most in-demand session drummers. Not a hint of real musicianship
>there.

Thats what music is about now days and no not a hint of musicianship in
programming a drum machine....I bet you love Billy Ocean and Janet Jackson
........L.W.
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:40:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      live King Crimson

>From:         Ilia <CC29@IONA.BITNET>

>+ About K.C. concert albums: I heard only "USA" and the live recording
>in Amsterdam. Is there anything else?

I think the live recording in Amsterdam is a bootleg.  There are quite
a few King Crimson bootlegs.  As for officially released live albums,
the only one besides _USA_ is _Earthbound_, recorded on the American
tour supporting _Islands_ but not released in America, naturally.
_Earthbound_ was recorded on a cassette machine, so the sound quality
is a bit lacking, but I quite like the performance.  "21st Century
Schizoid Man" was a great counterattack when the old woman living
below me would play her polka station deliberately loud. 8-)

There is a videotape of the Belew/Levin King Crimson in Japan.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.allmusic
Subject: Re: Motorhead on the Tonight show
Date: 14 Oct 92 06:54:07 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET writes:

>        Apparently one of the tonight show band (Branston Marsalis?)
>had a bet with Lemmy that he would not appear.

Yep, Branford bet Lemmy that he *could* get Motorhead on the show.

>        Jay Leno (I think hes a jerk) passed out earplugs before the
>first song (a lilting ballad named hellraiser :-).

   Ear plugs were under the seats, Jay did not pass them out.

Just being critical,
Muff
From: ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU (The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny)
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Subject: Leave your music at the beeeeeeeep
Date: 17 Oct 92 02:35:57 GMT
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ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!

I must vent my frustrations... I was fiddling and diddling with my delay
effects unit and sort of got this Robert Fripp meets Toni Iommi thing down when
I realized the only tape recorder I had in the room was my answering machine!
Well, I managed to save a whole 20 seconds of it..Whoopie!!! Anybody looking
to get rid of a 4 track recorder cheap?

 \8:C
 ^--------the results of me pulling my hair out

-Adam
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 08:58:35 CST
From:         "(Jinn S. Yang)" <v30yjs@V0SUN2.CCL.ITRI.ORG.TW>
Subject:      BMG,Columbia Club

Well, since some ppl have mentioned this kind of stuff...
I know that in US, you can join the club and get much discount
from the record companies. I always see the AD. in the Rolling Stones,
or Guitar mgazine.
Do they accept the application ouside US ?
I just want to buy music and pay less..  :(
-Yjs
From: HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET (Paul Heroy)
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Subject: Re: Tonight Show
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:27:18 GMT
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On Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:10:00 EDT alt.wasted.time said:
>Oh yah, Johny Lee Hooker was also on the show.  Unfortunately I totally
>missed him.  Did he play at all?  What was the interview like?  If nothing
>else, Leno's musical choices are much better then Carson's.

I've never been in the habit of watching the TS, but I've tuned in a few
times to catch it when I've heard of a good musical guest (usually jazz).
Every single time I've done this, I've gotten really annoyed at Leno. Ok,
admittedly I've only gotten a small sample - maybe 3 shows - but the music
or musicians was shortchanged or patronized each time. That said, I definitely
agree that Leno's show seems to be getting some really good musical acts
(Motorhead not withstanding - how the heck did I catch that one?).

Let me throw out a couple of questions - one simple, one maybe irrelevant
from a cynical point of view. Who actually makes the musical choices? Isn't
it Branford? I can't imagine it actually being Leno - in fact, I think I've
read that Branford has been given near complete control over music. The other
question is - have any of you talked to someone who's seen some good jazz or
other non-pop style music on Leno and been 'converted'? In other words, is
the message Branford's trying to send getting out? CAN the message be received
by the American public? (As someone once cracked, "Nobody ever went broke by
understimating the American public")

Paul Heroy
From: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
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Subject: Puttin' up
Date: 16 Oct 1992 16:04:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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  You folks just don't know what an interesting morning it's been for
ol' Lenny Watkins and "n.n."... but you probably will know by midnight
tonight (after I wake up, y'know). Since he's pretending innocence and
saying he thought he used the list to reply to my counter-challenge Re:
"put up or shut up," I know he won't mind my posting our entire exchange
to the list (thanks, Len). I've given him a better option, so let's see
how this turns out, shall we?
  Gosh. Am I turning into a net.bully?

  Jeff ("n.n.")

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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 08:10:31 EDT
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Monday morning sarcasm, round 2

On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:00:43 EDT Michael H. Bloom said:
>
>From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
>Subject:      Re: Classical Top Ten
>
>> Morley, "April Is in My Mistress' Face" --the above was a lie; we got to have
>>                                           2 madrigaux.
>
>You sure that's not an L.L. Cool J. tune?
>
Dunno--but it ends up with:  "And in her heart, a cold December", ie, the
sentiments of most good madrigals.  Apposing, or even opposing, this to
"Fire, Fire!" is great good fun. . . .
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:29:23 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: A survivor from Warsaw
              "ALLMUSIC@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU" at Oct 15, 92 10:05 pm

>
> It is a legend as old as time, but someone transcribed a Coltrane solo,
> and they took it up to Coltrane, and asked if he could play it to see if
> it was right.  Coltrane couldn't play it, that it was too difficult.
>

Jeff sure comes up with some classic stories... this is one of the best!

It makes clear how many "selves" are involved in making music... the self that
is in action during a live/hot/transcendent [as opposed to just an
ordinary deal] improv is NOT the same self who sits down to read music and
figure out "notes" -- I tell ya, this little story is a real Zen koan and if
you want to understand music, just keep thinking about this little
story...

Sonia "grasshopper"

p.s. Jake, in defending blues, I thought it was funny you pointed out that
Robert Lockwood (I think) could also play JAZZ and Little Walter could also
play BE-BOP....  Hey, you don't have to switch out of blues to defend the
blues!  Albert King hanging on ONE note is all you'll ever need...

And on that "three chords" business--

    so who's counting?
From: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
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Subject: Re: XTC, how are they?
Date: 12 Oct 1992 04:59:33 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, TIFFANYDE@URVAX.BITNET ("alt.wasted.time") says:

>>Can anyone give me their opinion of the band XTC?
>
>Yah, they're great.  Especially the song "Dear God."  Ask Gary to find out

  "Dear God" is but a speck of excreta compared to "Wake Up" or "Yacht Dance"
or even "No Thugs In Our House," so there.  :)

  Jeff ("n.n.")

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From: 988fernandez@gw.wmich.edu
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Subject: Re: Top 5 Lead Vocalists!!!!!!
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:08:13 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

What about Ian Gillan and Fredy Mercury.Unforgatable.Right.
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:26:16 PDT
From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: DebUT ABLUMS

On Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:59:32 CDT Leonard said:
>After reading about Boston's (or SCholz's) debut album, it got me
>to thinking the Boston album was certianly a classic. I'm like to
>know other debut albums that were impressive to all ya'll.

The Band        _Music From Big Pink_
R.E.M.          _Murmur_
Elvis Costello  _My Aim Is True_
The Specials    _The Specials_
Sex Pistols     _Never Mind the Bollocks Here's the Sex Pistols_
The Clash       _The Clash_
Dire Straits    _Dire Straits_
Lene Lovich     _Stateless_
The Pretenders  _Pretenders_

This could go on forever.

David
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From:         "OUT,
              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      KC reunion?

"n. n." says:

>  You really think this about _Three of a Perfect Pair_?  Ewww. I'm only
>hoping the new incarnation of Crimson doesn't decide to pick up where that
>one left off. It'd be like _Union_ was for Yes, wouldn't it?  ;)
>  I do regret that Bruford isn't going to be asked to play in the new KC.
>He and Fripp got into some kind of tiff, and so Jerry Marotta is rumored
>to be the first choice for drummers.

        And what about Belew? Will we have KC w/out Adrian?!?
        Apropos KC: listen to "Heartbeat" and the incredible rhythm guitar;
you can try as long as you like, but you can't play *those* chords... until
you lower down the 1st string (higher E, in other words) to C. At that point,
you can play it! Quite basic positions, too. And a very nice tuning to expe-
riment... :)
        Re Marotta -- better with ANY incarnation of KC than definitely off
the Gabriel wagon. And, by the way -- would you imagine _Us_ with the Big
Marotta Beat...? I can't, honest!

        Ciao, Marco "Neal & Jack & me -- absent lovers, absent lovers"
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:00:23 CDT
From:         Paul Heroy <HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: you read it, you call it
              7 Oct 1992 10:55:32 CDT from
              <Lee=Jenkins%PCB=Sys=Int%Mfg=Hou@BANGATE.COMPAQ.COM>

On Wed, 7 Oct 1992 10:55:32 CDT <Lee=Jenkins> said:
>From:           crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
>>might also include Kansas (from a certain period) and maybe even
>>Boston (!).
>
>i picked up the first boston cd last week.  very, very good.  i mean, i
>remember liking all those songs from hearing them on the radio, but it
>nevertheless impressed immensely me to listen to it.  there was so much
>schmaltzy stuff (tm) being released in the mid 70's, but this really
>stands out like a jewel.

This was the first rock 'n roll I ever got on my own (well, along with one
other album that had a really cool cover but that I'm embarassed to reveal.
Of course Boston had a pretty cool cover too - which I had a friend of mine
airbrush on a t-shirt.) Foreplay/Long Time is still one of my favorite tracks,
but it's the only one I think I'd really put squarely in the progressive camp.

>ilia, i'll add king's x to the list.  their 2nd cd, _gretchen goes to
>nebraska_, is a good place to start, with the truly bizarre yet somehow
>wonderful harmonies in the song _out of the silent planet_ (not to be
>confused with their 1st cd with the same name).

I think there's a whole genre of 'progressive metal' that's developed that
King's X fits into (along with Queensryche and others; Q may be more 'pop'
than average though). I know some of these bands have been influenced by
the progressive rockers mentioned in this thread, not to mention jazz such
as Trane and Miles's fusion work.

Paul Heroy
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