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From: thumper@cco.caltech.edu (B. Thomas Adler)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: why someone from faraway is running CALTECH IRC???
Date: 28 Jan 1993 20:59:00 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

ekb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Ethan K. Butterfield) writes:


>In a previous article, ogpaik@ugcs.caltech.edu (Paris_Lover) says:
>> She is always busy with her other work not being so caring
>>to caltech people who ask questions or ask for an op status.

To sate my curiousity:

1. What sorts of questions doesn't she answer?
2. How many people do you know that want to be an operator?
   And why?  The server is kept active continuously, and is
   updated on a regular basis.  What else do you need?


I would suggest that if you have a question while you are using IRC,
it would be just as easy to one of the several people on #twilight_zone.
Each of the should be eager to answer your question, if they have time.


> To my
>>surprise, she gave a person from some neighborhood university have
>>an op from THIS CALTECH SERVER!!!  Currently, no one from  caltech has
>>any authority over the server what so ever.

Did you ask her why she did that?
Have you hypothesized why she might have done that?
Personally, I don't know the reason, but I can think of *very* reasonable
consideration that make it necessary.

>if she's restricting IRCops, then I'd give here a pat on the back for
>ignoring your requests for one. Go look up HulkHogan or Trillian, and

He's referring to Trillian as the "she" above.


>>Wbut because  I believe caltech is now ready to run our server on our
>>own.  

I'm curious.  Who do you feel should run it, and why?

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
Subject: Re: /dcc
Organization: Aston University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL241235]
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:05:17 GMT

Troy Rollo (troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU) wrote:
: 
: Initiator:
: 	DCC command issued.
: 	Create a socket, bind it to INADDR_ANY, port 0, and
: 		make it passive (a listening socket).
: 	Send the recipient a DCC request via CTCP supplying
: 		the address and port of the socket. (This
: 		is ideally taken from the address of the local
: 		side of the socket which is connected to a
: 		server. This is presumably the interface on
: 		the host which is closest to the rest of
: 		the net, and results in one less routing hop
: 		in the case of gateway nodes).
: 	Continue normally until a connection is received.

How about having the recipient also be able to send a REFUSE CTCP back
which will cause the socket the requester is holding to be closed.
(possibly also a timeout on DCC requests)
(avoids hogging resorces)
: 
: 	On a connection:
: 	Accept the connection.

could also put in a check that the host connecting to you is what you
expect it to be

: 	Close the original passive socket.

(while this is open anyone who knows it's port number can connect to it,
should be just the client you are trying to contact. Anyone who can run
a program such as netstat on your machine can find this out)
 
: 	Conduct transaction on the new socket.
: 
: Acceptor:
: 	CTCP DCC request received.
: 	Record information on the DCC request and notify the user.
: 
: 	At this point, the USER should be able to abort (close) the

(aborting by sending a message back to the user which will notify them
and clean up things at their end)

: 	request, or accept it. The request should be accepted with
: 	a command specifying the sender, type, and argument, or
: 	a subset of these where no ambiguity exists.
: 
: 	If accepted, create a TCP socket.
: 	Connect the new socket to the address and port supplied.
: 	Conduct the transaction over the socket.

Is a DCC REFUSE command currently included?
: 

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From: phone@coombs.anu.edu.au (matthew green)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: ircII 2.2pre8
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:31:24 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed) writes:
>phone@coombs.anu.edu.au (matthew green) writes:
>>There is no date, or span on when ircII 2.2 will be released..  it could
>>be tomorrow.. or it could be next week.. could be next month.. or the
>>month after...   When ever it is ready...
>next month I can handle...month after...blah...I'll go on holiday
>again :)

You WERE supposed to be away for an other month.. I recall..    I was hoping
on having that extra month ..   blah..  :)   perhaps I'll go on holiday
soon...   and why am I bantering on alt.irc ?   Perhaps because I'm bored..
and tired..  and I can't be bothered going back to bed.. 

phone..

say NO to expensive plane tickets!
From: dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Bots and Common Sense
Date: 27 Jan 1993 08:23:43 GMT
Organization: Doug's House of Disco
NNTP-Posting-Host: grumpy.cc.utexas.edu

In article <1k5833INNoqd@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> gjm5@po.CWRU.Edu (Lord Maximilien of Myragorthia) writes:

>>IRC, but I op three. Point made? I refuse to join #hotsex and #hottub because
>>of the number of opings and deopings that just clutter the channel and 
>>interfear with talking, the supposed purpose of IRC.
>
>No one joins those channels to talk.  They're way too clogged up with people
>for anything that laid-back.  People go on #hot* because they want to have
>mode wars--it's like a huge wrestling match, everyone jostling for position,
>and I often find it's fun to watch as well as to participate.  OK, I know it's
>wasteful of bandwidth.  This point has been made so many times, it's begun to

You do not speak for the entire world ... therefore you cannot say that 'No
one' joins these channels to talk.  I do.  I *like* big channels ... and
if the scrollage gets too bad, I turn off the modes ...

Lets see which channels currently have over 15 people ...

 *** #[$B$_$"[( 21                                                        
 *** #[$B$K$[$s 34                                                        
 *** #42        27
Sorry ... I generally speak English.
                                                        
 *** #taiwan    19     We Love Stefan Edberg!         
 *** #asians    15     WHO WANTS SUCKER'S PHOTO?????? 
 *** #korea     20     Mean or blunt? bluntly mean? meaningly blunt?   :P  
 *** #gblf      17     The _other Gay Nineties...                         
 *** #amiga     29     Amiga: the computer for the creative mind.         
Too specialized ... (though sometimes any of these channels can be fun)

 *** #twilight_ 16     We don't need no greetings!  
Hmmm ... where else can you get /killed for talking ???  I prefer people
who actually SAY something !

 *** #hottub    25     To be (*) or not to be (*) that is the question
 *** #hotsex    29     A f*cked channel                               
All that's left ...

Looks like the #hot* has it ...
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----------------------- \  Zippy says:
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DemoN on IRC              \
dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu  \
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From: hudel@waterloo.hp.com (Chris Hudel)
Subject: Virtual Reality Addiction (Questionnaire)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:49:32 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard (Panacom Division)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.5]



Hello!

Do you spend a lot of time involved in "virtual" activies such as USENET,
IRC, MUDs, or some other computer enviornment that involves groups of
people interacting with one another (whether role-playing or not)?

Do you spend too much time doing these things?  Did you ever spend too
much time doing these things?  I'm interested in hearing from you if
any of the above questions apply.  I leave the definition of "too much time"
up to you... I'm preparing a paper on Virtual Reality Addictions and I
very much request your input.  

Please complete any parts of the following questionaire that you'd like to
and e-mail it to me at
			chudel@watarts.uwaterloo.ca

Of course I've no intention of using personal real identities in the paper
so please be as detailed as possible.  I personally guarantee confidentiality
of your information.

Thank you,
Chris Hudel
chudel@watarts.uwaterloo.ca

 -------------
Questionaire:

      Name:
       Age:
       Sex:
Occupation:

In what "virtual" activies do you regularly participate?

How long -- and how often --  do you engage in these activies?

Do you feel you spend too much time in these activies?

Has your involvement affected your lifestyle (work/school/etc..) in any way?

What is so appealing about about what you do?

Do you know of anyone that uses virtual reality for illegal/unethical
purposes (ftp software piracy, etc..)?

What do you know about "netsex" or "computersex"?

Do you know anyone that has been addicted to thse virtual activies?

What became of him/her?

Are you addicted to these virtual activies?

What are you doing about your addiction?

Would you agree to being quoted (under a pseudonym)?

Would you be willing to talk further and in more detail about any of
the above points?  Or about anything that deals with virtual activities
and their addictiveness?  (If you don't believe they're addictive at all,
please let me know that too!)
 -----------

Please feel free to candidly add *anything* of interest to this short
questionnaire and thanks again for your input.
From: jeff@titan.ucs.umass.edu (Jeff Zabek)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: HELP USING IRC2
Date: 25 Jan 1993 11:14:15 -0500
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
NNTP-Posting-Host: titan.ucs.umass.edu

In article <1993Jan25.124801.20550@mlb.semi.harris.com> dbrillha@dave.mis.semi.harris.com writes:
>Hi,
>
>  I'm a new IRC2 user. I built the code, installed it, and issued
>"irc2 -f". Then I joined a channel using "/join #whatever". At that
>point I can watch a conversation, but if I try to enter any words of
>wisdom, it tells me "You have not joined a channel!". 
>
>  Well, how do I join a channel so that I can write to it?
>
>*** dbrillha!dbrillha@dave.mis.semi.harris.com has joined channel #UK
>*** = #UK : dbrillha cyberwulf varg 
>*** You have not joined a channel!
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>--
>                                           Dave Brillhart
>                                           UNIX Systems Group
>                                           (407) 729-5430

Is this a VMS client you are using?  If so, you might have to query
the channel that you want to be on.  Join the channel first, like you
have been doing, then type /query #channel.  In your example, it would
be:
  /join #UK
  *** dbrillha!dbrillha@dave.mis.semi.harris.com has joined channel #UK
  *** = #UK : dbrillha cyberwulf varg 
  *** You have not joined a channel!
  /query #UK

Then type whatever.  Good luck!
-- 
Jeff Zabek
jeff@titan.ucs.umass.edu
DarkShadow@student.umass.edu
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: mk@roxi.rz.fht-mannheim.de (Marcel Kraenzle)
Subject: Re: logfile
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 13:58:38 CET
Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik, Mannheim (FRG)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Karl Schmuck [Bib] (schmuck@rhrk.uni-kl.de) wrote:
: Hello ircler

: does anyone of you know who to produce a logfile of an irc-session ?
: I'm running IRCII on a Unix.

: Thanks Karl

Hallo Karl,

gib einfach /set logfile DATEINAME
und danach /set log on 
und wenn du fertig bist einfach /set log off
das logfile befindet sich dann mit dem angegebenen namen in deiner
home directory.

Ciao Marcel
 
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: rpa3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Richard P Altman)
Subject: Re: IRC telephone clients on Long Island?
Keywords: IRC telephone new york BillZeCat return
Reply-To: rpa3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Richard P Altman)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:16:46 GMT

Don,
You may want to try Hofstra Univ for some sort of IRC
hook up.. I'll get in touch with someone from there on
IRC and see what I can do for you..
I know they're in the 516 Area Code.
If not, I know I can get you the off-campus number to
Columbia's Unix here in the 212 area code.. the only
question is.. can you get an acct?
 
More to come..
 
Rich
 
 
**********************************************************
Rich Altman    -- rpa3@cunix.cc.columbia.edu --   Rikitiki
**********************************************************
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU (Troy Rollo)
Subject: Re: What is ircIII?
Originator: troy@strummer.cbme.unsw.edu.au
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:43:23 GMT

From article <phone.727891132@coombs>, by phone@coombs.anu.edu.au (matthew green):
> ogpaik@cco.caltech.edu (Oon-Gil Paik) writes:
> 
>>Hi, I fpt-ed to wuarchive and found there is 'ircIII'. Is
>>this new client? I have not tried it              
> 
> ircIII was a very very lame attempt at merging screen 3.00
> and ircII2.2pre2.  All it was was a screen that automatically
> started an ircII process in its first window.  Yup, thats it.
> 
> There are much better was to interact ircII and screen.....

Phone is hinting at a new feature in an upcoming release of ircII,
which was planned long before "ircIII" came out. This one feature is
one of a few factors that has kept the post 2.2pre7 versions of ircII
on the coders' benches for so long.

As both Phone and Avalog have stated, ircIII was a very lame attempt
by somebody to distribute the combination of ircII and screen, and
he even had the audacity to claim it as his own original work.

In reality he has only changed one line of source code.

It should be noted that ircIII is also in violation of copyright
restrictions on both ircII and screen, due to the fact that
ircII's license does not permit distribution of works modified
outside of the mainstream (a restriction generally only enforced
in cases of extreme rudeness, such as "ircIII"), and due to
the fact that it assigns credit for screen incorrectly, which
violates screen's licensing restrictions.

I had asked the admins of wuarchive to remove ircIII once before
on grounds of copyright violation, and they claimed that it had
been removed. I don't know how it mnaged to end up there again,
but it would probably be appropriate for the current ircII
coordinator to make such a request now.
-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU	      Overworked, overcommited and always multitasking.
Opinions expressed are not those of the CBME or UNSW, but are my opinions only.
You are free to adopt them.   I suggest you adopt them.    You will adopt them!
Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.recovery,alt.mud.lp,alt.mud,rec.games.mud,rec.games.hack,talk.bizarre,alt.drugs,soc.net-people
From: hudel@waterloo.hp.com (Chris Hudel)
Subject: Re: Virtual Reality Addiction (Questionnaire)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:50:28 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard (Panacom Division)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.5]
Followup-To: chudel@watarts.uwaterloo.ca

Chris Hudel (chudel@watarts.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
:[Survey about Virtual Reality Additions deleted]
:
Just to clarify some things:

	- I am writing an article ("Virtually Addicted") for publication and
	  wish to use the results -- and a few indepth followups -- as a 
	  basis for some of my statements.  If you replied to the survey, you'll
 	  get a copy of my article when it's completed.
	- I will post the results (name/sex/age specifics deleted, but averaged)
	  in these newsgroups in the next week.

	- If you don't agree with anything above then please don't send a
	  reply to the survey!  As luck would have it, I've found a host of
	  addicted people on campus and will likely use personal interviews
	  for the majority of my research.

Thanks,
Chris.
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: adax@leopard.cosy.sbg.ac.at (Adi Dax)
Subject: Re: Help - IRCmania ?
Organization: University of Salzburg / Austria
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:56:51 GMT

In article <1jllevINNhsr@rs2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>  
cbvetter@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Chris Vetter) writes:
> HELP!
> 
> Can anyone out there tell me, how to get rid of this wonderful disease ?
> 
> (Probably the wrong group ;) 

*smile* Why wanna get rid of it ? Its a wonderful, intriguing gizmo !

I LOVE it !

Rincewood

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From: Da-Hogman@cup.portal.com (HOGAN DEAN WHITTALL)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: BOTS
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 14:47:27 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <1993Jan20.100021.29521@aston.ac.uk>

Man, all this stuff about bots is getting old.  What can you do?
Get admins to restrict the number of IRC processes?  Kill all processes on
logout?  Good idea, but it's not fair to others who don't run bots and use
their accounts for O.K. things.  /ignore *bot/*serv all?  Nah, the bots are
still there.  I can remember about 5 months ago, an Irc Op would kill bots
if there was more than one on an account.  All those /kills screw up the net
too.  When I asked about Sexter/Tubster he said that they were here longer
and they can stay.  What bull.  It's all those "nasty" bots (i.e.  MrsBot,
DickBot, etc) that make people want bots gone.  Bots linked together
(NickServ, NoteServ) aren't the greatest bots either.  With NickServ sending
out the longer-than-needed "That nick is registered" notices, that's sure to
cause some problems.  NoteServ is useless without NickServ and with NickServ
lagged most of the time, it makes for more useless bots.  NoteServ should be
a free standing bot to make them MUCH easier and faster.  I've gotten NO
complaints about my bots, ZeeBot and LinkServ, and ZeeBot is on #hotsex.
So people, you can keep posting and waste bandwidth or you can do something
about it instead of complaining and making dumbass remarks.
Ta ta...
 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
H. Whittall
            hogandw@shell.portal.com
                                     -OR-
                                          Da-Hogman@cup.portal.com
IRC:  LoverMan
_____________________________________________________________________________
From: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: What is ircIII?
Date: 24 Jan 93 13:51:11 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2
Keywords: IRCIII

ogpaik@cco.caltech.edu (Oon-Gil Paik) writes:

>Hi, I fpt-ed to wuarchive and found there is 'ircIII'. Is this new client? I have not tried it              

No.  Its not new or 'official'.  Someone threw screen and ircII together
and called it ircIII or something similar.  In general it was someone
showing how stupid they could be.

avalon
From: s_titz@ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Help - IRCmania ?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:10:16 GMT
Organization: Fachschaft math/inf, Uni Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: irau33.ira.uka.de

In article <16B63E7F2.PHSTUD32@nyx.uni-konstanz.de> PHSTUD32@nyx.uni-konstanz.de (Pascal Gienger) writes:

> Take your terminals to invent a new sportive discipline, for example
> "Terminal throw"... It's certain you won't want to IRC again :-)...

For standardization, I recommend IBM3278-2 models. They have the
following advantages:
- they are big and heavy
- they should already have vanished from the world 10 years ago, but some are
still there, so let's help eradicate them
- they cannot be used for IRC well anyway

> Bye, your unsportiviest student of the world...

What would you otherwise expect from Trossingen?   
                                        [ich geh schonmal in Deckung]

Olaf
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| univ. of karlsruhe - germany |  _>\ _  | s_titz@ira.uka.de   | is still    |
| +49-721-60439                | (_)<(_) | praetorius@irc      | valid       |
  "My heart is human - my blood is boiling - my brain IBM" - Mr. Roboto
Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.recovery,alt.mud.lp,alt.mud,rec.games.mud,rec.games.hack,talk.bizarre,alt.drugs,soc.net-people
From: hudel@waterloo.hp.com (Chris Hudel)
Subject: Re: Virtual Reality Addiction (Questionnaire)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:55:29 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard (Panacom Division)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.9 PL6]

I (chudel@watarts.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
:[Survey about Virtual Reality Additions deleted]
:
Just to clarify some things:

        - I am writing an article ("Virtually Addicted") for publication and
          wish to use the results -- and a few indepth followups -- as a
          basis for some of my statements.  If you replied to the survey, you'll

          get a copy of my article when it's completed.
        - I will post the results (name/sex/age specifics deleted, but averaged)

          in these newsgroups in the next week.

        - If you don't agree with anything above then please don't send a
          reply to the survey!  As luck would have it, I've found a host of
          addicted people on campus and will likely use personal interviews
          for the majority of my research.

Thanks,
Chris.
--
                                                         Chris Hudel
business: hudel@waterloo.hp.com                         519/883-3080
pleasure: chudel@watarts.uwaterloo.ca             
(Pleasure forwards to business...)       - all comments are mine, not HP's -
From: jeff@titan.ucs.umass.edu (Jeff Zabek)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Help - IRCmania ?
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:25:08 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
NNTP-Posting-Host: titan.ucs.umass.edu

In article <C1J063.K5q@news.cso.uiuc.edu> awrg2685@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ucantdigme) writes:
>cbvetter@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Chris Vetter) writes:
>
>>HELP!
>
>>Can anyone out there tell me, how to get rid of this wonderful disease ?
>
>>(Probably the wrong group ;) 
>
>
>Get a life.  That would help.

"alias irc logout" works for me :)
-- 
Jeff Zabek
jeff@titan.ucs.umass.edu
DarkShadow@student.umass.edu
Xref: sparky alt.irc:5078 alt.irc.ircii:236
From: ramon@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Ramon Kolb)
Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.ircii
Subject: Re: help ircII2.1.5h, pleaseeeee
Date: 23 Jan 93 14:21:36 GMT
Followup-To: alt.irc
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I compiled it without problems running the 'csh install1.0' command...
it's nice and interactive, and you don't have to bother about putting the right
#defines everywhere....



         --Ramon
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(PA3EUG)    | sysop@pa3eug.ampr.org (amprnet)
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Quote of the day: "Real programmers use: COPY CON PROGRAM.EXE"
From: phone@coombs.anu.edu.au (matthew green)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: What is ircIII?
Keywords: IRCIII
Date: 24 Jan 93 15:58:52 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

ogpaik@cco.caltech.edu (Oon-Gil Paik) writes:

>Hi, I fpt-ed to wuarchive and found there is 'ircIII'. Is
>this new client? I have not tried it              

ircIII was a very very lame attempt at merging screen 3.00
and ircII2.2pre2.  All it was was a screen that automatically
started an ircII process in its first window.  Yup, thats it.

There are much better was to interact ircII and screen.....

phone..