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From: vpravosu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Vladimir V Pravosudov)
Subject: Re: Speaking with Vladimir Re: Plagiarizer (Was: Boris Grebenshchikov)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 04:08:19 GMT



Dear Mishenka, I don't really want to get to your level and throw a lot
of dirt on you wooden head. I was just interested in seeing a result
of a little bit of critics. Of course, I'm touched by your gentle handling
of my personality, although I think I'm older then you. It's kind of
interesting to see all those posting where you just pouring shit on each
other as though all people from the same country are the worst enemies.
I agree that my posting was not to the points, I just expressed my feelings
about your "writing". Thank you for nice names and etc. It's funny, but
I think you would never tell me the same things in person. Well, you write
"should I stop writing..." and I think that you probably should, since
anyway, your mouth throws only dirt. If you really want to disscuss rock
music, you can write me personally. I don't think that it's worth taking space
and time of innocent people here, in the news. By the way, I'm from
Leningrad, and I started lissen to BG and Doors when you probably had been
walking under a table. Well, I might just add that your humor is really
childish, so I forgive it for the first time. I'm not impressed anyway.
I did not expect anything else from a jerk like you. If you want to
continie your nice writing about how stupid am I, you better stop
wasting your breath, just shut your mouth up and be happy. I'm not
in much of writing to newsgroup, I have a lot of work. Unfortunately,
I cannot say the same thing about you. It seems you spend all your time
writing your , as you think, very "smart" postings. So, get back to work,
hopefully you are better in your specialty then in many other things that
are posting.

Don't take it too seriously, take it easy,
Vladimir      vpravosu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: mkagalen@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (michael kagalenko)
Subject: Re: some Soviet emigre restaurant jokes
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:41:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.125821.1@jaguar.uofs.edu> mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu writes:
>sebia, po vsei veroiatnosti, otnosite.
>
>Po semu povodu, predlagaiu nabit' vam etu samuiu, krivuiu, rozhu po nedorogoi
>tsene: oplata bileta do Izrailia i obratno.  Vam, togda, nachisto otob'et 
>okhotu sviazyvat'sia s Pennsilvaniei (i, esli gn.Vizniuk ko mne prisoedinitsia,
>s Ohio), a osobenno s predstaviteliami eio Vnutrennikh Voisk, koim ia
>iavliaius'.                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Nashel chem gordits'a !



>Michael Martynov.
From: LANDSBERG@sbhep2.phy.sunysb.edu (Greg Landsberg)
Subject: Re: some Soviet emigre restaurant jokes
Organization: SUNY at Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:01:54 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <C0I0n4.625@fiu.edu> kilman2y@fiu.edu writes:

> Ia, bratczi, tashus' ot vashego pristrstia ko vremenam czaria-batushki i
> ego doblestnim voiskam. Hochu napomnit', chto oficzerstvo bilo udelom 
> iskluchitelno dvorianstva. Prostomu mujiku oficzerstvo davalos' geroistvom
> i dolgimi godami slujbi. Uchitivaia chto vseh rodovih dvorian bol'sheviki
> libo povesili libo rasstreliali, sredi nas dvorianskih naslednikov net.
> Mi s vami veroiatnie vsego nasledniki prachek, vodonosov, selian, i melkih
> kupchishek. Tak chto, "gospoda pochtennie oficeri", let sto nazad ne videt'
> bi vam etogo leitenestva kak svoih ushei, po tomu kak voennuiu kafedru
> vam za geroistvo bi ne zaschitali. Blagodarite za svoe leitenastvo 
> dedushku Lenina.
> 
> Y.K.
> 

Ne figa-to ti ne ponyal, starshina...

Nikto zdes' svoim   psevdo-ofitserstvom poluchennim na  voennih kafedrah ne
gorditsya!  Ludi shutyat,  ponimaesh',  starshina,  SH-U-T-YA-T... Protivo-
postavlyayut  tvoemu ``yaziku  Vullisa,  Martinova,  Nikolaeva...'' chto-to
bolee literaturnoe, ponimaesh'? Teper'-to ponyal, starshina? 

A pro  Lenina  - eto  ti   pravil'no... Ya  pravda  ne  znal, chto  on tebe
dedushka,  no imenno  on tebya   starshinoj  sdelal... Bez nego  bil bi ti,
skazhem, unterom a togo i glyadi  rotmistrom. Ne to chob luchshe, da vse-zh
zvuchit pokrasivee!

Cheers,

Greg
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: LANDSBERG@sbhep2.phy.sunysb.edu (Greg Landsberg)
Subject: Re: Glubokie izvineni'a ( starshina i t.d. .... )
Organization: SUNY at Stony Brook
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:01:53 GMT
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In <1993Jan11.220205.18743@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> mkagalen@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu writes:

> In article <1993Jan10.231625.19178@husc3.harvard.edu> verbit@brauer.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky) writes:
> >--
> >********************************************************************************
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> >********************************************************************************     
> >--
> 
> 
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> 
> Just what double .sig is supposed to mean ?
> Really curious Michael

Navernoe,   eto   svidetel'stvo   razdvoenija  lichnosti  ili  neumerennogo
potrebleniya  alkogolya vo  vremya ``winter  break.''  Veroyatnee vsego - i
togo i drugogo...

Cheers, 

Greg
From: zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Mikhail Zeleny)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Soc.Culture.Soviet
Date: 9 Jan 93 07:30:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan9.023041.19136
Organization: The Phallogocentric Cabal

In article <1ilgvt$d19@agate.berkeley.edu> 
muh@physics1 (Yury M. Mukharsky) writes:

>In article <1993Jan8.214538.19129@husc3.harvard.edu>
>zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Mikhail Zeleny) writes:

MZ:
>>B.C.E.  To cite an Armenian friend of mine, at the time our ancestors
>>built their temples, the ancestors of the Slavs were sitting in the
>>trees, and spitting at each other.  Of course, he said it in Russian.

YM:
>Because you can't learn Armenian? :)

Because I can't be bothered to learn Armenian.

MZ:
>>One would think that a book like that is quite enough to claim the
>>world title, if only on the basis of popularity and abiding cultural
>>influence. 

YM:
>Yeah, and then Quaran and "Main Kampf" will beat Russian literature to dust.

Bearing in mind that both are rather low on original ideas, I would
say, yes on the former, and no on the latter.  It wouldn't surprise me
if "War and Peace", or, for that matter, Brezhnev's prize-winning
opus, has had more of a press run than "Mein Kampf".

MZ:
>>	      I think even Mao's Little Red Book comes in as a distant
>>second on both counts.
>>
>Yury M.

cordially,
mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
"Le cul des femmes est monotone comme l'esprit des hommes."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: goykhman@apollo.hp.com (Red Herring)
Subject: Russia: Life's Getting Cheaper!
Originator: goykhman@dzoo
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:17:44 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

A study recently conducted by law-enforcement agencies in Russia
indicates that assasination prices there do not keep pace with 
inflation.  Here's what it costs to have someone (professionally) 
murdered in Russia:

    "ordinary person" (i.e next door neighbour)
    1,000 roubles (~$2.50)

    "inordinary person" (i.e. law-enforcement officer,
    small business owner, etc.) - 50,000-100,000 roubles

    "extra-ordinary person" (i.e. high-ranking goverment
    official) - negotiable, several million roubles

According to a persistent rumour (ad?) circulating in NYC, 
the aforementioned services are available for export to the U.S., 
albeit at a much higher price - $1000+expenses (round-trip ticket, 
accomodation, etc.) for an ordinary Brighton Beach inhabitant.
From: alpet@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alex Petrushko)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re:    Information wanted about Zhanna Aguzarova
Date: 6 Jan 1993 00:44:48 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: tornado.berkeley.edu

In article <93003.083314ICBAL@ASUACAD.BITNET> <ICBAL@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>Several years ago there was a very popular Russian rock singer named
>Zhanna Aguzarova; she was lead singer with the band "Bravo". A year or so
>ago she married an American and moved to the USA.  Does anyone know if
>she has resumed her singing career in America?  Does she have any CDs
>released in America?
>
>B.L.

I don't know about CDs but I think she has released a tape of her
attempts at singing :-) She was performing in a Russian restaraunt in
L.A -- the name of the place was "Black Sea." I have the address somewhere,
if you want it. That was about 2-3 months ago, and things could have changed.
She was singing, alright, but in my opinion nobody took her seriously here.

Shura.




-- 
These fits of depression are torturing me
The lives that I seen won't breath again
A sad child of madness, they will never be free
Born again to die, the agonies begin...
		 -W.A.S.P. "The Heretic."
From: muh@physics2 (Yury M. Mukharsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Soc.Culture.Soviet (was Re: some Soviet emigre restaurant jokes)
Date: 8 Jan 1993 21:26:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics2.berkeley.edu

In article <93008.151858BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu> <BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>Have you ever thought why we - with a superior education system (just
>compare it to the American one!), a best literature history in the world
>(except, maybe, Hebrew or old Chineese), a lot of talented people etc -
>why we are in such a condition now? 

I doubt anybody knows the answer, and I'm not sure the feature you pointed
out has much to do with it. On my side I would point to the fact that
first university in Europe is dated 11-th or 12-th century, and in Russia
(or better Ukrain) to 16-th or so 17-th. 

Now, why do you think Russian literature history is best in the world? I would
guess that French- or English men would not agree. As for Hebrew, maybe it's
ignorance (as definetely is in case of Chineese, old or modern), but I'm not
aware of any book of world renown (exept Bible, which I would not discuss
here) in Hebrew.

Yury M.

Is there any influence of this
>lifestyle?
>
>
>
>And why I'm reding this? Well, I'm not of Sakhara Desert origin.
>
>-Boris
From: djohns@elm.circa.ufl.edu (David A. Johns)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Translation of linguistic terms
Date: 10 Jan 93 00:06:21 GMT
Organization: University of Florida, Gainesville

In article <16B4E148C8.HAUGLAND@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU> HAUGLAND@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU (Laurie Haugland) writes:

# I ran into this phrase from the _Grammatika russkogo iazika_:
# formirovanie sostavlenii slova.  What would be the definition in
# linguistic terms? Thanks.

Morphology.

David Johns
From: covdy@shemesh.metaphor.com (Ivan Covdy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: . .
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:43:50 GMT

in article <AAtGuEh8i7@leonid.stavropol.su>, andrey@leonid.stavropol.su (Mishchenko Andrey Leonidovich) says:
# 
# 
#              uWAVAEMYE GOSPODA!
#   pOZDRAWLQEM S PRAZDNIKOM rOVDESTWA  hRISTOWA.
# sOOB]AEM, ^TO kISLOWODSKIJ OTDEL tERSKOGO KAZA-
# ^XEGO wOJSKA WEDET RABOTU PO WOZRAVDENI@  KAZA-
# ^ESTWA. pRIGLA[AEM  ZAINTERESOWANNYH  LIC K SO-
# TRUDNI^ESTWU.
#   aTAMAN, wOJSKOWOJ STAR[INA mI]ENKO.

Nu, eto, blja, voobshche!

To kagebeshniki k sotrudnichestvu vse prizyvali, teper' atamany eti...
A na koj hren, sprashivaetsja, s nimi sotrudnichat'?

Uzh ezhli rech' zashla o Hriste, po-moemu, on skazal kuda jasnee:
"Ne ubej, ne ukradi, ne sotrudnichaj."


-- 
  Ivan Covdy, covdy@shemesh.metaphor.com, METAPHOR Inc.,  CA,  USA
 *** People are looking for a Mind somewhere in the Universe,      ***
 *** because on the Earth they've been finding only the Stupidity. ***
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
From: alexeev@math.utah.edu (Valery A. Alexeev)
Subject: Re: First astronaut?
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Utah
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:17:28

On 4 Jan 93 20:22:36 GMT, LANDSBERG@sbhep2.phy.sunysb.edu (Greg Landsberg) said:

> I know that story from my father who had an audience in the office
> of Alikhanov, former director of the Institute for Theoretical and
> Experimental Physics in Moscow. During the audience Alikhanov got a
> phone call; his faced changed and he told my father that the first
> man has been launched in space.

> Several days later the whole country greeted Gagarin...

Right, they had so many space ships ready, they could launch one every
several days.

> Greg

v.
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From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Discrimination
Date: 9 Jan 93 18:57:20 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

Yury M. Mukharsky (muh@physics2) writes:
>Tapani Hietnaniemi (thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi)  writes:
>>also against discrimination. You should at least give some evidence about
>>alleged "discrimination" done by the Estonian government before
>>accusing them of anything.
>
>You must be kidding. I do not have dictionary at hand, but I do not think
>I'll be much off target if I say that discriminate makes "make a difference",
>"have a differente attitude". I can see the difference between getting
>sitezenship automaticly and applying for it. Can you?

Technically you are right, however in daily discourse, "discriminate"
carries the distinction "make a difference *without relevant reason*".
It is also usually understood that the discrimination is directed
towards a certain group. That is, when women's salaries are found to
be lower than men's in the same profession, this is an indication of
discrimination. Another example is the resturant owner who bans gypsies
in their traditional wide dresses. In Sweden at least this may even 
render you a fine.

However, there are cases when making differences are relevant. With
citizenship and immigrants, for instance. No matter which border you
cross, the border guards won't say "by the way, here is your citizen-
ship". They won't even give me one if I ask for it, but I have to live
in the country for some time, and usually also fulfil some other criterias
as well. In daily discourse this is not known as "discrimination", and
it would be pointless to so, since these are the customs everywhere,
not only in Estonia.

The underlying key-point in Yury Muravsky's standpoint is that he don't
recognize post-1940 immigrants in Estonia as immigrants, because he
thinks the occupation was legal. But since he know few people will
buy that argument, he tries with tricks like "discrimination". Isn't
newspeak beautiful?
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: some Soviet emigre restaurant jokes
From: ioffe@black.bgu.ac.il (Ioffe Nicolay)
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 21:51:18 GMT
Organization: Ben-Gurion University, Beer Sheva, Israel

mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu writes:
: In article <1992Dec26.221939.9896@ramon.bgu.ac.il>, ioffe@ivory.bgu.ac.il (Ioffe Nicolay) writes:
: > mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu writes:
: > : In article <15192.2b35cb0f@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>, viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
: >
: > Gospoda Vyznyuk i Martynov - Zerkalo russkoj intelligencii.
: >
: > Nick.
:
: A tebia kto siuda zval???
:
: Ia te pokazhu "russkuiu" intelligentsiiu!!!  Nashel, to zhe mne, kak chestnykh
: evreev nazyvat'!!!
:
: Ty u menia smotri, ia tebia, blia, i v Israile dostat' smogu!!!
:
: Respectfully,
: Michael Martynov.

Gospodin Martynov byl prav! Ja oshibsja! On zerkalo russkojazychnoj
intelligencii. No ja ne dumaju, chto to chto on tam videt uluchssshitsja ot
konstatacii dannogo fakta. Vse skazannoe otnositsja i k G-nu Vyznyuk'u.
I voobshe, ja rekomenduju im vmesto pisanija v UseNet smoptret' v zerkalo.
Tam G-n/tov. Vyznyuk uvidit G-na/tov. Martynova. I naoborot.


A naschet dostavanja v Israile ja vm skazhu G-n Martynov - poprobyjte!
Tut-to my vam i pokazhem. Budete v luchshem vide - kak vyslannye Hamasovcy!

Nus?

Hochetsja?

Proshu!

Nick.
From: yuri@amath.washington.edu (Yuri Yulaev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: english to russian translation s/w
Date: 6 Jan 1993 21:28:26 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Applied Mathematics, Seattle
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: orcas.amath.washington.edu


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
From: thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi
Subject: Re: Once again on restitution of states 
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 18:00:09 GMT

In article <Sorokin.56.726683609@ps1.iaee.tuwien.ac.at>, Sorokin@ps1.iaee.
tuwien.ac.at (Sorokin Zhenya) writes:
> Just one more thing.
> 
> In article <1993Jan10.103512.1@cc.helsinki.fi> thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi writes:
> [...]
>>
>>The World War II occupation continued and, therefore,
>>the world war was not over. And it is still not over, because these
>>countries are still occupied, against international conventions and
>>resolutions (CSCE and UN) and against the wills of the states involved.
>>
> 
> It is not clear to me, why the argument of continued WW II is so highly 
> appreciated. 


If Belgium or half of France had remained occupied, it might have annoyed
somebody.


> The WW II changed a lot of borders, baltic being only few of 
> these. Why not consider Koenigsberg, Finnish-Russian border, 


The Baltic "borders" were not just "chanced". The sovereignity (and
freedom) of the republics was destroyed - according to Stalin's
intentions, for ever.

There is a peace treaty between Finland and (Soviet) Russia. No need
to change anything right now.


so-called 
> "western Ukraine", Moldavia, Polish-German border, French-German border, 
> Okinava, Kurilic islands, etc. etc.? 


Japan and Russia could use a peace treaty.


> These are _results_ of WW II. Which 
> does not mean that all of them must be treated as fair and irreversible.


Estonia and (Soviet) Russia signed a peace treaty in 1920, which
was broken by the Soviet invasion. No other peace treaty has been
signed between these countries. Now, when Estonia is recognized
independed, it's natural that these existing treaties are taken
as the point of departure in Estonian-Russian negotiations.

 

> Making the difference of all these is again a mixture of legalistic and 
> realistic approach, whatever favours to present baltic situation as 
> separate and specific. 


I can't see anything wrong with the mixture of legal and realistic approach.
The legal approach has it's limits and does not lead to any absurdities.

 
> Balts had to have their independence and have it, but not because WW II 
> was "not over" or whatsoever.  Because it is realistic and fair.


No, it's the other way around, when the last occupants (= red army
troops) leave the Baltic states, we could conclude that the war is
over, at last (of course with a minor qualification: the Baltic states
might negotiate on some military bases. But the consent of the states
involved is required).

But here we agree, releasing the Baltic states from the prison of nations
was realistic and fair. Gorbachev could not bring himself to it. Yeltsin
could.


with best regards
Tapani Hietaniemi, Universitas Helsingiensis
                   urbs fennorum

 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: igor@cs.columbia.edu (Igor Pankevich)
Subject: Re: Soc.Culture.Soviet
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:00:18 GMT

In article <1ilgvt$d19@agate.berkeley.edu>, muh@physics1 (Yury M. Mukharsky) writes:
> In article <1993Jan8.214538.19129@husc3.harvard.edu> zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Mikhail Zeleny) writes:
> >
> >B.C.E.  To cite an Armenian friend of mine, at the time our ancestors
> >built their temples, the ancestors of the Slavs were sitting in the
> >trees, and spitting at each other.  Of course, he said it in Russian.

       A very good point!
> 
> >
> >One would think that a book like that is quite enough to claim the
> >world title, if only on the basis of popularity and abiding cultural
> >influence. 
> 
> Yeah, and then Quaran and "Main Kampf" will beat Russian literature to dust.

Have you read any of those two?
(Just curious)

> Yury M.
> 

--Igor P.
From: viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Soviet space disaster?
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:42:09 EST
Organization: Midwest Rat's Hole

In article <01GTE8Y722SA9FN7MH@DCVAXD.RFERL.ORG>, LODEESENJ@adminb.rferl.org (Username was LODEESEN) writes:
> The cosmonaut in question, Komarov, perhaps the most intelligent man to have
> been sent in space, may, if the stories are true, have died as a result of
> a failure in planning, and, again if stories are true, was aware as he
> orbited, that safe reentry was not a possibility.  The claim in Moscow at
> the time was that he communicated to the command center before his ship
> disintegrated some rather unsavory comments, including the wish that the
> Soviet Union expire.  These rumors were circulating in Moscow within 48 hours
> of the news that he had died.  Among the various stories which may not be
> verifiable, this would be one of the ones worth tracking down.  Was there a
> cover up?  Was it to protect national prestige or to protect the reputations of
> people in charge of the space program?  What kind of internal discipline was
> exercised.
>   At the time of his death, I was a young diplomat at the American Embassy in
> Moscow and the version of his death given to me in greatest detail included
> both accurate information not at that time publicly available but easily
> verified AND the claim that his last words were to curse the Soviet Union.
> Disinformation?  Revelation?  Guesswork.

  Reading these folks from RFERL one Russian preverb
comes to mind: the one who pays orders the music...

  Serega
From: chi@ecf.toronto.edu (Winston Chi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: looking for a business partner
Date: 10 Jan 93 17:07:39 GMT
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility

I need a business partner to deal business with Russian or CIS. The potential
partner must have very strong contact inside Russia and be able to find the
business opportunities in Russia.  If you have interest to cooperate with me
on a basis of mutual benefit, please call me at (416) 924-9732 or return
to this email address: chi@ecf.utoronto.ca.

January 9, 1993.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet