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From: hpcvbbs!akcs.matt1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Matthew C. Mead)
Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.tiny
Subject: Apology, Summing Up
Date: 3 Jan 1993 23:10:35 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

   Well, I don't know if any of you have been expecting this by now, but
nevertheless, my conscience got the better of me.  Yes, I am the other
partner to the virus which attacked Furry MUCK on New Year's Eve.
 
   As I read over the log that had been quoted over several newsgroups
which I was reading earlier today, I saw it in a slightly different
light.  As a MU**er I am used to many of the more entertaining aspects of
MU**ing, and do not tend to get too emotionally involved in what goes on.
I guess what I am trying to say is that I didn't realize the extent to
which I was going to be hurting people's RL feelings.  A few of the
postings that followed the log definitely made me aware of this.  I
figure that I could have gotten away with the whole thing, but I would
have had a hard time worrying about it, knowing that I did something
wrong.  I am usually a decent Christian and part of what God has told me
is that I did something gravely wrong.  Or if you don't like the idea of
God telling me something, just call it a guilty conscience.  To begin
with the whole thing sounded like a great idea; I could test out some of
my coding abilities, and work on some other programs that I had in mind,
but what it all boiled down to was, after the fact I didn't like myself
so much for what occurred.  I never thought 90% of the people online
would get infected, and that's really no excuse.  I'm not going to hide
behind something that will sound fake, or even something that I can make
up that would sound absolutely plausible; I'm just going to say I'm sorry
for any harm I have done.  From what I understand, the cleanup was fairly
simple, only requiring one program that everyone would run once to become
uninfected, and I'm glad of that fact.

   I know that some of you aren't going to accept this for what it is
worth, and will still intend to send email.  Please do not send email to
the account that I am posting this from, it will only clutter someone
else's disk.  Instead mail it to my computer at 'mmead@vtssi.vt.edu'  i'm
sure some of you recognize that name from before when I felt my privacy
was invaded.  I should have known that you would feel the same, and that
RL feelings would get hurt.  Lynx and I have already talked about the
whole thing, if you have any further questions you don't feel comfortable
talking with me about, please ask him.  Thank you for reading this if you
have read thus far.
 
 
PS--Foxen: thanks

Matthew C. Mead     --     mmead@vtssi.vt.edu
"To know everything would be impractical; access time would be
exceedingly high"  - from the TV series 'Mann and Machine'


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From: key@soda.berkeley.edu (peter li'ir key)
Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.tiny,alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Quicksilver virus on furry Muck
Date: 2 Jan 1993 19:15:25 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

fyi

i don't think the comments in [] are joel furr's
joel should have made that clear, but i believe joel's
only sin here is to cross post a _COPY_ of the original
post.


peter li'ir key, li'ir @ furrymuck
key@soda.berkeley.edu
From: downsj@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (jason downs)
Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.tiny
Subject: Nightmare MUSH
Date: 24 Dec 92 06:31:36 GMT
Organization: !(mushhacks)
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From: cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christian Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.tiny
Subject: Re: Quicksilver virus on furry Muck
Date: 2 Jan 93 18:19:17 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1993Jan2.085011.21888@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> arromdee@godel.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:
>In article <86065@ut-emx.uucp> cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christian Wagner) writes:
>>[Log by Yozduk@cs.utexas.edu deleted]
>>Ya know, I thought UT had better admission standards. Obviously not, if 
>>assholes like "Yozduk" can get in.
>Of course, this says something about the admission standards of Furry too,
>since they let Yozduk in, and gave him a mucker bit....

<AHEM> Excuse us for being trusting. Not all of us are paranoid; some of us
tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. And this is the first time in a
long while someone abused their mucker status on Furry to this extent. 

BTW, it has been pointed out by many people that 'Yozduk' is not a UT student;
the original post had a forged header, being from a UMinnesota site. 

>>Now, the operative question, is, who has less of a life? The Furry, or the 
>>person who's sole means of entertainment is to spend hours and hours writing a 
>>virus to annoy those Furries? 
>He probably likes to program, at least to some extent.  So had the program not
>been useful against FurryMUCK, he might have gotten almost as much
>entertainment from it anyway.  I also bet the ensuing ruckus will last a
>lot longer than hours and hours, so as far as expenditure of time/amusement
>ratio goes, this one's probably quite good.

The original virus lasted less than half an hour; Yozduk and his pals seem to
have gotten more of their enjoyment out of -attempting- to make Furries look
silly with their little log file plus comments. And that's a rather telling 
fact, isn't it?

I doubt this little flamewar will last much longer; Yozduk's site is known, and
he will probably be IDed soon. At the very least, he won't be making any more
postings to r.g.m.tiny, at risk of someone tracing the posting. This kind of 
thing has an inherently limited half-life. 
And I, for one, won't be making any more posts on this subject after this one.
And I recommend that everyone else on Furry let this die down as quickly as
possible, to avoid giving 'Yoz' & company more to read and giggle at.

>>"Yozduk", you are a classic example of a person who needs to get a life, and 
>>badly. I wonder how many friends you have, if you enjoy invading other people's
>>lives and then making fun of them. 
>FurryMUCK is a person's life?
>Hmm....

No, Furry, and MU*ing in general, is -part- of a lot of people's lives. For 
some of them, an important part; for others, less. But deliberatly disrupting
someone's hobby because one finds it stupid or silly is the -height- of 
assholism, whatever hobby that happens to be. 

Christian Wagner, -aka- Samuel of FurryMUCK
-- 
    "Well, do you ever get the feeling that the Story's too damn real
                        and in the present tense?"
               Christian Wagner - cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu 
Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.tiny
From: jmorrill@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John M Morrill)
Subject: Re: Dinotopia
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:52:10 GMT

In article <92Dec27.035050.13583@acs.ucalgary.ca> jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshu
a Bell) writes:
>For christmas, I received a book by James Gurney called
>_Dinotopia_ - it describes a fairly detailed culture consisting
>of intelligent dinosaurs and humans living and working side by
>side, using paintings and diary entries.
>
>It struck me as an interesting concept for a TinyMUSH. The
>problem - since its not a work of literature, and very new, very
>few people will have even heard of it. The purpose of this post
>is to test the waters, and see if any readers out there would be
>interested in such a thing, either as players or admin-types. You
>needn't have read the book, just be interested in the concept I
>briefly outlined above.

Sounds very interesting to me, like me know how it works out.
-- 
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Strange problems call for strange solutions.
From: pfritsch@skid.ps.uci.edu (Paul Fritschle)
Subject: Re: Quicksilver virus on furry Muck
Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.tiny
Organization: Miskatonic University Department of Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: 2 Jan 93 18:09:22 GMT

Anyone notice how many groups this thing got posted too? I caught it
first on news.admin, with a followup by our good friend Joel Furr.
As far as entertainment value, dunno. It led to the release of a new,
secure version of the Fuzzball server, which is a good thing, in my
mind.

--

Paul Fritschle                                         pfritsch@skid.PS.UCI.EDU
                 Have you hugged YOUR shoggoth today?
Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.tiny
From: jgm@ais.org (jim miller)
Subject: Re: Quicksilver virus on furry Muck
Organization: Ann Arbor Information Society -- Toledo Annex
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 05:16:41 GMT


arromdee@godel.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:

>In article <86065@ut-emx.uucp> cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christian Wagner) writes:
[...]
>>"Yozduk", you are a classic example of a person who needs to get a life, and 
>>badly. I wonder how many friends you have, if you enjoy invading other people's
>>lives and then making fun of them. 
>
>FurryMUCK is a person's life?
>
>Hmm....


Ken... this comment, from someone who has argued, when it wasn't fashionable
to argue so, that the emotions engaged when using a mud are no less real or
less worthy of respect than any other emotion?  Remember the past days of
the long flamewars whenever some idiot trampled over another player and then
bragged about it openly, and the frighteningly large number of people ready
to defend him with exactly that cynical quip?

-- 
* My 3 rules for meeting women *
1.  Seek simple women with common sense and a capacity for commitment.
2.  Stay away from women entangled in *any* way with another man.  Apply
    the word "entangle" broadly, and don't let them fool you.
From: enn@po.CWRU.Edu (Erik N. Noble)
Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.tiny
Subject: Announcement:  IECMUSH info!
Date: 4 Jan 1993 03:45:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: enn@po.CWRU.Edu (Erik N. Noble)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Here's an important announcement from the administration of IEC MUSH:

*begin IC announcement*

Hear ye!  Hear ye!  Hear ye!

Castle D'Image is haunted!

His most royal majesty, King Valiere D'Image humbly begs your assistance in
the great Castle D'Image's difficulties.  An unknown force is haunting the 
castle, causing people to see terrifying visions, and giving the loyal
residents of the castle nightmares of unspeakable terror.

The castle needs your help!  Come help discover the source of these hauntings
and put an end to them!

*end IC announcement*

	If you wish to come to ImagECastle MUSH and join in the fun, we can be
found at the following address:

		fogey.stanford.edu 4201

We welcome all new residents and guests!

******MORE IMPORTANT NEWS*******

As of Sunday, January 17, 1993, the database of IEC MUSH will be purged of inactive
characters.  If you have not logged on since the end of October, your 
character will be purged!

If you want to keep your character, log onto IEC now!



*This message brought to you courtesy of the IEC Powers That Be, and the 
account of Renli Starchaser, Dean of the Academy of Music, IEC*
-- 
       Erik N. Noble (enn@po.cwru.edu)    or   noble@acsu.buffalo.edu
     president, Animation America, Buffalo Chapter  SCA: Ian Rasmussen
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 Hmmm...oh...Oh dear...I guess we are going to have to do something about that.
Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.tiny,rec.games.mud.admin,news.admin.policy,alt.fan.furry
From: jgm@ais.org (jim miller)
Subject: Joel:  A Confession
Organization: Ann Arbor Information Society -- West Lafayette Annex
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 04:51:10 GMT


Joel ACTUALLY LIKES T.Rev and angsts occasionally over the fact that he made T.Rev dislike him so.
Joel says "There.  Post it to USENET."
Joel says "See if I _care_./"

-- 
>Are not Tom Bombadil and Beorn the same guy?
Nope.  Reasons:
...
(c)  Tom does not periodically turn into a bear.
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From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Quicksilver virus on furry Muck
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 17:04:43 GMT

I'll wager that you'd get the exact same results out of any chat system,
from the original Houston Roundtable to Compu$erve CB to IRC. Chats just
tend to attract technically naive people (AKA clueless newbies).

(you may take the "IRC Menace" discussion as read)
-- 
Peter da Silva.  <peter@sugar.neosoft.com>.
 `-_-'   Oletko halannut suttasi tnn?
  'U`    
Tarjoilija, tm ateria el viel.
Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.tiny,news.admin.policy,rec.humor,alt.fan.furry
From: jengagne@wam.umd.edu (Jenny Lynne Gagne)
Subject: Re: Quicksilver virus on furry Muck
Summary: Ahem, Joel had nothing to do with this... 
Keywords: virus, yozduk, scum scum scum die die die.
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 20:32:03 GMT

Just to clear this up so nobody goes ripping out Joel's lungs over a misinterp,
Joel crossposted the log, but if you read the header, the [ ] comments are
Yozduk, and the { } comments are Yozduk's character.  (Split personalities,
anyone?)

I think it was rather moronic to post the log... ESPECIALLY from Yozduk's
account, because that means every man, woman and child who read it knows
Yozduk's e-mail address and EXACTLY where to whine in order to get some
jurisdiction.  Dumb move.

Just to contribute my .02 to this whole affair and be done with it so I
can get on with my Hari-Kari for Barry '93 work (plug)...

[Flame on.]

Okay.  I can understand that you're 'upset' with TS on Furry.  This is NO
REASON TO UNLEASH A VIRUS.  In fact, in ways of immaturity you just knocked
your pathetic self down several notches (at least people engaged in TS don't
do it in public or force others to watch) and probably OFF the ladder of
morality.  Go play with your building blocks and beat up the other
preschoolers.  {And FYI, I noticed and recced my actions within minutes of
landing in Furry.  As for being a competient programmer, I can proudly state
that I am the most annoying programmer I've ever met.  Interpret that as you
will.  I take it as a complement.}

[Flame off.]

That's better.  (looks up word in hiskool vocab word)  Truly a fine CATHARSIS.
Onward to other things...

-TF and Luggage

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|   Happy Happy Happy, |  My favorite live action drama!"                |
|     Joy Joy Joy!     |            - _Space Madness_, Ren and Stimpy    |
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Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.tiny
From: jbh@feenix.metronet.com (Justin B Harvey)
Subject: Myth MUSH, Asprin, Site Needed
Organization: Texas Metronet Communications Services, Dallas TX
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 08:44:08 GMT

Is anyone interested in helping me find a site for Myth MUSH?  It
is a comedy MUSH based on the best selling books by Robert Asprin.
Is anyone willing to help with this?

Justin Harvey
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From: mcb@umberto-eco.postmodern.com (Michael C. Berch)
Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.tiny,news.admin.policy,alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Quicksilver virus on furry Muck
Summary: Please omit news.admin.policy
Date: 3 Jan 93 00:36:12 GMT
Organization: Postmodern Consulting, San Francisco, California USA

In the referenced article, rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung) writes:
> QUICK background. Yozduk@cs.utexas.edu installed a virus on FurryMUCK to
> log people's public and private actions and dialogue. Bad enough, but now
> we have random snide remarks from jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu about people's
> motivations.  [etc. ...]

Please omit news.admin.policy from further discussion regarding this.
I fail to see what some incident in a MUD/MUCK/IRC/CHAT/whatever
has to do with Usenet policy.  There are plenty of newsgroups that
might be interested, e.g., rec.games.mud.*, but not news.*

Thank you,
--
Michael C. Berch  
mcb@postmodern.com

Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.tiny
From: jengagne@wam.umd.edu (Jenny Lynne Gagne)
Subject: Eliza bot help needed (badly)
Summary: help me. 
Keywords: eliza, bot, robot, annoyances
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 03:40:44 GMT

'allo, Twoflower here... I am currently trying to make an Eliza bot (for
fun and profit) on Furry, and really need help with the script files.
Namely...

1.  What do the little numbers next to one-word keywords dMEAN?
2.  Is there a way to search for sentence fragments?  Ie...
    getting a phrase like 'tell me about %' to register even if
    the inputted say was 'Can you tell me about new kinds of phlegm?'.
3.  Is there an easier way to make it quit other than spoofing a Going down?

Any response will be appricated... please use netmail so save bandwidth.

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| Jengagne@wam.umd.edu | "I'eard you was took dead, Mr. Poons."          | 
|   Happy Happy Happy, | "Er.  Yes.  I was."                             |
|     Joy Joy Joy!     | "See you got over it, then." - _Reaper Man_, TP |
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From: cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christian Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.tiny
Subject: Re: Quicksilver virus on furry Muck
Date: 2 Jan 93 07:45:21 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

[Log by Yozduk@cs.utexas.edu deleted]

Ya know, I thought UT had better admission standards. Obviously not, if 
assholes like "Yozduk" can get in.

I've seen people who don't like Furry; who call things like TS a waste of time
and/or energy; who claim that Furries in general have no lives.

Now, the operative question, is, who has less of a life? The Furry, or the 
person who's sole means of entertainment is to spend hours and hours writing a 
virus to annoy those Furries? 

"Yozduk", you are a classic example of a person who needs to get a life, and 
badly. I wonder how many friends you have, if you enjoy invading other people's
lives and then making fun of them. 

I was -sorely- tempted to email you several core dumps, but that's the kind of
thing people like you do. And I'm not going to stoop to your level.....

Christian Wagner, -aka- Samuel of FurryMUCK (who was not caught by the virus,
BTW)



-- 
    "Well, do you ever get the feeling that the Story's too damn real
                        and in the present tense?"
               Christian Wagner - cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu 
Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.tiny
From: yellowbd@eskimo.com (Andy Hubbell)
Subject: Help with loaddb for Untermud, please!
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:51:13 GMT


To any UnterMud admins out there...  Help, please!  I have compiled the
unter sources successfully on a Sun 3/280 and have been having strange
problems with loaddb when trying to establish the initial database. 
When I run loaddb, the program just hangs there and I can kill it with
^C but it only creates the empty files and doesn't seem to be able to
read in the .oif file.  No errors are generated, it will just sit there
forever...:(  Any help will be appreciated!  I have the latest versions
of the sources for untermud from ftp.white.toronto.edu and am running
SunOS 4.1 here...  The sources are compiled to use ndbm, you help will
be greatly appreciated!  Please respond via E-mail since we have a
fairly quick expire here and I might miss any responses...  Thanks in
advance!
  
                      --== Andy ==--
  
Email:  yellowbd@eskimo.com
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From: dwest@cwis.unomaha.edu (David West)
Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.tiny,news.admin.policy,rec.humor,alt.religion.kibology,alt.angst,alt.sex,alt.mud.t-rev.stomp.stomp.stomp,alt.angst.xibo.sex,talk.bizarre,alt.peeves,alt.exploding.kibo,alt.fan.bruce-woodcock,alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Quicksilver virus on furry Muck
Date: 2 Jan 93 22:14:03 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

Oh, I just have to respond to this, since it seems my character has
gotten brought into it...


For one, folks, not everyone who plays on FurryMUCK is a programmer, or
has a M bit. I, for one, do not. I go there for roleplaying my
character, and if that involves tinysex, so be it. At least I have some
common sense, unlike a bunch of people who keep posting logs about the
'evils' of FurryMUCK.

I, for one, do not have time to waste to track down MUF programs, or
even learn the language. That is what the joys of being both a student
and a network administrator will do for you. So, bud, if you wish to
call me stupid, you had better talk to the users of the 200+ computers I
maintain every day of the week.

Isn't it amazing how people always go out of their way to go after
FurryMUCK players? People with some common sense, who don't like the
genre and the roleplaying there, just don't log in there and don't
always talk about it in venomous tones. But then, as witnessed, who said
Yozduk and his ilk had any common sense?


--David West
     aka Sevnara


ps. Yes, I am a male that plays a female character on FurryMUCK. Cope.
That is what is called 'roleplaying', and if you can't handle it, maybe
you should get a real life and leave virtual reality.
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