From: jmv@grip.cis.upenn.edu (Jean-Marc Vezien)
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic,alt.alien.visitors,talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: Saga of the Family of Light I - Pleiadians13
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:23:38 GMT
Followup-To: sci.skeptic
Organization: GRASP Lab



In article <64216@cup.portal.com>, Don_-_Showen@cup.portal.com writes:
> RA says
> 
> >You're not getting off that easy :-).  The question I have is 'why do _you_
> >believe some people (you?) have 3-strand DNA?'.  
> 
> To clear things up it is 12 strands of dna which equate to the 12 chakras
> of the human system.  I read our dna is 7.5 foot long (in a newspaper :-)
> ).  Anyway the point is that there could possibly be 12 strands in the 7.5
> foot strand.  It makes a lot of sense when the chakras are considered.  It
> also makes a lot of sense that only the first two are active or intact and
> the rest are idle or scattered.  Which directly equates to why we only use
> a small percentage of our mind. And why we have a society stuck in
> survival.  Now the light encoded filaments could be a way to spiritually
> alter the dna.  And it could be possible that new light energies are
> hitting our light encoded filaments causing the dna to wakeup or activate.
> It could also be possible that we are controlling the amount of light
> entering our light encoded filaments by our supressed emotions,  our
> beliefs,  our attitudes,  our feeling or lack of them, and a few other
> factors.
> 


Note the "could". I could be the Queen of England , too.
STOP EATING MUSHROOMS !!!!

> Now for the important part,  belief!  Here goes,  I have been wanting to
> communicate this to these groups for five years and keep getting distracted
> by  non believers  :-). Belief is one of the primary resources we each have
> for creating our own reality.  So since we create our own reality by our
> beliefs,  this is one prime area where the observer effects the outcome.
> The beliefs of the observer totally influences what is seen and perceived.
> As an example,  I have said that all facts are nothing but petrified
> beliefs.  There is a long list of facts, pertified beliefs that are
> stopping science dead (or almost dead) in its tracks.  Now the nature of a
> belief is that it is something we generate moment by moment.  So it is
> fairly easy to change a belief.  Another characteristic of beliefs is that
> they can be noticed and evaluated on a scale of limiting and unlimiting,
> and a more unlimiting belief can be substituted for one identified as
> limiting. 


This part, I can still understand, and even agree with.
Please define "limiting".

>Now for another thing,  Thinking and believing is a third
> dimensional, activity.  Knowing and feeling is a fourth dimensional
> expression of the energy. 

Should have paid more attention at school.

 So I take a idea a ET shares with me and I think
> and believe as if it were true and then I know and feel the results of it
> being true.  If it feels good,  I may adopt the belief or I may look for a
> more unlimited expression of the belief and go through the same cycle.  The
> opposite of it is I know and feel when a belief is not appropriate,
> usually in a microsecond.  When the feeling center is opened,  it is
> immediately know when something does not feel good.  That is unfortunately
> why so many people have their feeling center closed down.  Because day in
> and day out they do things that do not feel good,  and feeling it would be
> painful.

For sure this kind of babling leads to dictatorship easily. Also ask a
serial killer what feels good for him.

>Now the one thing I would like to get across to this net is that
> not believing is believing.  Everything not believed becomes a brick wall
> in ones mind and reality. What we imagine we are, our self image,  is the
> result of our beliefs about ourselves.  Most of those beliefs were adopted
> from outside ourselves.  One of the predominate beliefs on this planet is
> that there is only one God and we are not it.  The next predominate belief
> is in death. And that there is not any intelligence or life after death or
> outside of bodies.  Let me tell you folks, no one has ever died and there
> are incredible intelligences, not in bodies.  The Pleiadians suggest that
> there are multitudes of bodiless entities showing up wanting to
> communicate.  The one big mistake the school system is making, is not
> making people learn to channel before they can graduate.
> 

Sorry, this argumentation doesn't feel good to me. Rejected.
See, why bother with logical crap ? :)

> >Is it because an alien spoke
> >through a channeler & told you so?  
> 
> I have spent well over 1000 hours of being with and leaning from aliens (I
> prefer to call them ETs) coming through channelers.  Many I have a
> relationship with,  I can feel them as well as hear them.  I get inspired,
> uplifted and become less limited from my contact with them.  But the
> biggest thing is an expansion of my CONCEPT of reality,  which expands my
> reality available to create. Another big thing about studying ETs is that
> they answer and have answered all the questions I have come up with,  that
> I could not find answers for from earth humans.
> 

I'd like to hear more about your expansion of your concept of reality.
It sounds absolutly fascinating (yawn).

> As far as dna changing that is blase among ETs.  In fact there is even a
> book out called NEW BODIES,  NEW CELLS,  NEW LIFE!  edited by Virginia
> Essene which has 12 channelers channeling entirely different entities each
> explaining in their way how the dna is waking up, activating, evolving,
> whatever you want to call it.  As I see dna scientists start to roar this
> isn t what they told me is school.  I would like to suggest that even if
> the 12 heli are not distinguishable under a microscope that there may be an
> explanation for it that hasn t been discovered or noticed.  Like some of
> our dna may not be physical it could be in another energy sprectum we have
> not detected.
> 

Here we are. Reminds me of the Winston's invisible fish.

> >Or is it because a geneticist or other 
> >qualified person examined the DNA & found it has 3 strands?
> 
> It sounds to me like you are saying that unless one of your high priests
> okays it you are not allowed to think of it.  

NOT. You're allowed to think it, but obviously you'll have problems
exhibiting your 12-whatever DNA strand.

You know I made an attempt to
> get some input on this very net.  Someone came on sounding like he knew
> something about dna but wound up saying breathing could kill and had the
> audacity to tell me not to do what I have been doing for the last 16 years.


I probably know enough on DNA to answer any of your allegations.
Besides, there are BOOKS you know. Oh, they don't feel good ? Sorry.


> >OK - since you persist in saying that some people actually have 3-strand
> >DNA (I don't care if it's everyone, 2 percent, or just one guy) - prove it.
> 
> I am proving it by doing it and living it.  The changes people are going
> through by one hour of conscious breathing in my hot tub are so personal
> and intense that I doubt if any would submit them for public examination.
> But I am willing to do this.  I will give anyone reading this a one hour
> FREE session in my hot tub ,  under a double pyramid, in San Jose, Ca. At
> our mutually agreed upon time.  For those who feel threatened because I am
> a male,  I have a female who will take you through the process.
> 
> Don Showen

Why do all these weirdos live in California ??


JM.
























































































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