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From: finlay_j@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.antagonists
Subject: yop, meathead!
Date: 26 Aug 92 06:51:46 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

Hey, owner! schmuck!

You still maintaining this as virgin territory or have you got
any one else to watch this crummy show yet? Huh?
Newsgroups: alt.tv.antagonists
From: edc@dna.bchs.uh.edu
Subject: Re: yop, meathead!
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:36:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.025146.3695@spcvxb.spc.edu> finlay_j@spcvxb.spc.edu  
writes:
> Hey, owner! schmuck!
> 
> You still maintaining this as virgin territory or have you got
> any one else to watch this crummy show yet? Huh?

Geraldo Rivera eats jello pudding pops.

<ESC>

--
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From: finlay_j@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.antagonists
Subject: Re: yop, meathead!
Date: 28 Aug 92 02:33:26 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

>> You still maintaining this as virgin territory or have you got
>> any one else to watch this crummy show yet? Huh?
> 
> Geraldo Rivera eats jello pudding pops.
> 
You're a load your mother should have swallowed, as my
Dad used to say.

Did you ever go out on a date because you were too lazy to
commit suicide?

Huh?
From: amm@rtpvl1.enet.dec.com (anita magenheim)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: Pez Episode --- (Sept.2)
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:59:36 GMT
Reply-To: amm@rtpvl1.enet.dec.com (anita magenheim)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <BtzKAv.L0J@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, rvc40592@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Bob Cadman)
 writes:

|> Or maybe I'm just paranoid ... since I know they use a laugh track in other
|> places in the show, I just think they're using it again here, and they're
|> really not, and what you here is everyone in the auditorium laughing.  No,
|> that doesn't make any sense because George's girlfriend implied that only one
|> person was laughing.  But maybe the laugh she was going to remember forever
|> was just the first person she heard laughing ... oh, now I'll never figure
|> it out ...
|> 
|> 
|> What's a three letter word for candy?
|> -- 
|> Bob Cadman
|> (rvc40592@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)
|> 

I agree - I didn't notice use of a laugh track until this season's opener, and
I think I'm sensitised to it.  While it *was* annoying, I still managed to laugh
like Elaine (when she tried holding it in).

Favourite lines:

George:  You can't break up with *me*!  I have hand!
Pianist:  ...  And you're gonna *need* it!

George:  They're very hard to load...
Jerry:   Tell me somethin' I don't know... (A line he uses quite frequently)

BTW, this was a repeat from last season - I was bummed, since I thought it would 
be a new one.
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From: johnk@gordian.com (John Kalucki)
Subject: Re: The Subway
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:05:25 GMT

The best line had to be during Jerry's standup routine at the very
end of the show:

He was talking about going to Coney Island. It went something like:

"So I rode on the subway for an hour and a half to go OOONNNN a
scary ride."

			-John Kalucki
			johnk@gordian.com
From: gmkoenig@acsu.buffalo.edu (Gerson V Koenig)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: What's a 3 letter word for candy?
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:31:23 GMT
Organization: UB

nlazar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nicole Alana Lazar) writes:
>  Also, did Jerry call George "Biff" this week too (I know he did last week,
>because they had the little "Biff Loman" dialogue)? I think he did, but I'm 
>not sure if I heard correctly. Is this some recurrent theme?

Yeah, at some point during the flea market exchange Jerry calls him Biff...
can't rememeber exactly where. 

>Nicole

"So, Biff wants to be a Buff"
Gerson Koenig
gmkoenig@lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu
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From: wlamonac@haydn.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca)
Subject: Re: Pez Episode --- (Sept.2)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:01:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.081847.25540@leland.Stanford.EDU> gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Sroka) writes:
>
>
>You can't break up with me, I've got hand.
>

    And you're going to need it!

(It took me a second, but when I got it, I couldn't stop laughing.)

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From: amm@rtpvl1.enet.dec.com (anita magenheim)
Subject: Re: What's a 3 letter word for candy?
Reply-To: amm@rtpvl1.enet.dec.com (anita magenheim)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:17:38 GMT


In article <1992Sep3.162320.8726@leland.Stanford.EDU>, nlazar@leland.Stanford.EDU
(Nicole Alana Lazar) writes:

|>   Also, did Jerry call George "Biff" this week too (I know he did last week,
|> because they had the little "Biff Loman" dialogue)? I think he did, but I'm not
|> sure if I heard correctly. Is this some recurrent theme?
.
.
. ____
|> Nicole
|> 

He sure did!  George plops down on Jerry's couch and asks a question, ending
with "Biff".  Yep, it's a recurring theme...

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From: steve@prowler.clearpoint.com (Stephen Steir)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: Laugh Track...
Date: 26 Aug 92 11:29:36 GMT
Reply-To: daveg@prowler.clearpoint.com
Distribution: alt
Organization: Clearpoint Research Corp, Hopkinton MA 01748

The studio audience was one of the "features" of Seinfeld.  I'm not
sure what bothers me so much about the laugh track, but I really
was disappointed hearing it.  Maybe I enjoy the natural sound of
laughter.  The canned stuff sounded so out of place.
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From: kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: Pez Episode --- (Sept.2)
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:19:12 GMT

In article <BtzKAv.L0J@news.cso.uiuc.edu> rvc40592@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Bob Cadman) writes:
>What's a three letter word for candy?

PEZ


Michael

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From: tps@chem.ucsd.edu (Tom Stockfisch)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: disappointment with season opener
Date: 24 Aug 1992 01:59:52 GMT
Organization: University of California San Diego, Chemistry
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In article <17074@ulysses.att.com> tom@ulysses.att.com (Tom Smith) writes:
>I've been lurking, waiting to see other's reactions to the
>season opener of 8/12/92.  I was disappointed with this episode,
>in much the same way I was with last season's finale.
>The problem: too much plot.
>I don't watch Seinfeld for plot, but for characters and dialogue.

I, too, was quite disappointed with the season opener, but not with your
diagnosis.  Normally the dialogue is superb.  Normally the characters
are very interesting.  Normally the plot is so good you hardly notice
it and it just sets up the dialogue and character development perfectly.
Like when one entire episode took place in the lobby and one small room
of a chinese retaurant.  At very strategic intervals George would talk
or miss talking to his girlfriend, or Elain would explain again how hungry
she was.
Especially like when they got lost in the mall's parking garage and eventually
half of the characters got arrested for public urination.

The problem with the opener was not too much plot.  Here's what I think was
wrong:
	1.  Elaine is sorely missed (when is she coming back?).  She is cuter
	    than a bug (and not much bigger) and offers a refreshing female
	    contrast and comes closest to being the show's straight-woman
	    (in the comedic, not sexual, sense).
	2.  The guest-character-with-a-small-role (the old lady in Kramer's
	    building) was very annoying and not in a funny way.
	3.  The directing was not as good as usual (hands changing position
	    when the camera angle changes, other poor editing).
	4.  The canned laughter was very intrusive.  I remember people laughing
	    last year but I don't remember it sounding so phony or so loud.
	    Maybe I was just laughing too hard to notice it.

-- 

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From: dtorok@nynexst.com (David Torok)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Subway Episode!
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:09:26 GMT
Organization: NYNEX Science & Technology, Inc.

One of my favorite episodes, "The Subway", is to be the repeat episode shown
this Wednesday.  For you out-of-towners, things that are shown in the episode
with respect to the NY Subway are *not* exaggerations!

-=$>Dave<$=-
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From: gregde@microsoft.com (Greg Demichillie)
Subject: Re: Pez Episode --- (Sept.2)
Date: 03 Sep 92 18:31:03 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Sep3.031533.13000@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> mbrockma@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt Brockman) writes:
>This episode was great!
>
>The recital scene was so funny I
>couldn't stop laughing.
>

My favorite moment:

Girlfriend:  *I* am breaking up with *YOU* 
George:      But I got hand!
Girlfriend:  You're gonna need it!
Followed by me laughing hysterically.

-Greg


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From: tps@chem.ucsd.edu (Tom Stockfisch)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: disappointment with season opener
Date: 1 Sep 1992 01:11:18 GMT
Organization: University of California San Diego, Chemistry
Distribution: usa
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In article <1992Aug20.092034@ties.bell-atl.com> df2tg2n@shoes.bell-atl.com writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.124124.14203@ryn.mro4.dec.com>, amm@rtpvl1.enet.dec.com (anita magenheim) writes:
>|> FYI - the guy the cops cuffed in the 519 (who turned out to be the "Smog 
>|> Strangler") is Ron Howard's brother.  (Oooh, I gotta get a life!)

>Yea, Clint Howard I think is his name.  I feel sorry for that guy, if you
>remember he was the little kid/star on "Gentle Ben" many years ago.  I have
>to keep reminding myself of that whenever he pops up on some show.

His first role was a repeating character with a running joke
on the Andy Griffith show -- Benji.  Every few episodes he would be walking
down the street eating a messy p&j sandwich and would offer it to people.
(Talk about needing to get a life!)

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|| tom stockfisch, biosym technologies    tps@chem.ucsd.edu
From: carpenne@cda.mrs.umn.edu (Nancy E. Carpenter )
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Get a life
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:35:42 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Minnesota - Morris

Am I nuts, or wasn't the corridor outside of Noelle's dressing room
the same corridor in the season opener, i.e. when George was talking
to George Wendt and Corben Benson (o.k., so I don't know how to 
spell his name) when Jerry went to do the Johnny Carson show?
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From: RZAL90@email.sps.mot.com (Eric Johnson)
Subject: Kramer in person
Organization: Motorola Inc, SPS
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:54:14 GMT

I was in L.A. this past weekend.  Hung out outside the Emmys in Pasadena on
Sunday PM.  Happened to see Michael Richards wandering around.  He looked
a bit odd, wearing a tux, but the same hairstyle as on the show!  Saw a whole
bunch of other tv people, but no sign of Jerry...
From: pwy6d@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Phil Yarrington)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: The Subway
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:14:58 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Aug27.174853.23762@cs.ucla.edu> salomone@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (John ($al) Salomone) writes:
>Last night was the first time that I have seen "The Subway".  It was hilarious!
>I especially liked how all the people in Jerry's subway car were stacked 
>against the far side of it when the nude guy was nude.  But easily the best
>part of the episode was:
>
>"Big Brokerage firms killed my father...well they hurt him bad...really,
> hurt his feelings."
>
>Must have watched that about 5 times on the tape.  Riotous.
>
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Sorry, the best line was the lady talking to Elaine when whe says:

For 38 years, I don't talk to anyone on the subway, when I finally do,
	I get the best man at a lesbian wedding!
	
Well, I'm paraphrasing, but that's about right.

-phil
From: fredj@wang.com (Fast Freddie)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: Pez Episode --- (Sept.2)
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:13:12 GMT
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA

gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Sroka) writes:



>You can't break up with me, I've got hand.

Then you will have ample opportunity to use it.

>Those things are hard to load.
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From: liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu)
Subject: Re: The Subway
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:10:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.174853.23762@cs.ucla.edu> salomone@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (John ($al) Salomone) writes:
>Last night was the first time that I have seen "The Subway".  It was hilarious!
>I especially liked how all the people in Jerry's subway car were stacked 
>against the far side of it when the nude guy was nude.  But easily the best
>part of the episode was:
>
Yes!  it was a riot!  I also enjoyed then Elaine's subway got stuck,
she thought, "I can't breathe, ... that guy smells, ... Maybe if
I count to 5 it will start to move...  1...2...3....4....5 ....Sh*T..."
It was so real.  Also I love all that subway announcements made during
transit station where everyone got off -- it's so true, noone ever
understand what the hell the New York Subway conductors are talking
about.  

>"Big Brokerage firms killed my father...well they hurt him bad...really,
> hurt his feelings."

"Should I take my cloth off?... If I did and she doesn't, that could
be embrassing, but what if she did and I didn't....I got it, I'll
take my shoes off and sit on the bed to be comfortable...."  
>
>Must have watched that about 5 times on the tape.  Riotous.
>
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From: Donald.E.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Donald E. Reed)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: Kramers other personalities
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:42:57 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

I liked his role in Wierd Al Yankovics movie UHF. Stanly Spudowski's
playhouse and the scene's with his kidnappers  were great.

Don Reed
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From: emf@sioux.eel.ufl.edu (Ed Filangeri)
Subject: Re: What's a 3 letter word for candy?
Organization: UF Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 19:42:59 GMT

Who is/was Biff Loman?
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From: sharma@euler.Warren.MENTORG.COM (Sharma Kunapalli)
Subject: Seinfeld Question
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corp. - IC Group
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:26:34 GMT

When the characters names show up on TV at the
beginning of every show, how come only Jason
Alexander's name shows up as

Jason Alexander
as
George

Why?
In fact I have seen this happen in other shows
too. For ex, in Three's Company, you can see
'some name'(I forget) as the Ropers. I wonder if
this means anything.

Sharma
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to do with these.

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From: abw@natchez.bu.edu (Al Wesolowsky)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Earth to Jerry
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:12:41 GMT
Organization: Boston University

Mail went bouncy-bouncy....

In article <VPILICH.92Aug27155827@hughes.hacgate.UUCP> you write:
>In article <94543@bu.edu> abw@natchez.bu.edu (Al Wesolowsky) writes:
>
>   ObSeinfeld: Elaine's only been gone 2 eps and I miss her dreadfully! I
>
>Are You suggesting that Elaine is no longer with the show??? I haven't read

No, no. I should have said "Elaine's absence from the two-part season
opener made me realize how much she contributes to the show."

She is having a baby (the actress, not the character) and I gather that
she will be absent from several more shows early this season. I have heard
nothing to indicate that she will not return. 

                             ---Al


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From: sharma@euler.Warren.MENTORG.COM (Sharma Kunapalli)
Subject: Seinfeld Question
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corp. - IC Group
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:21:49 GMT

When the characters names show up on TV at the
beginning of every show, how come only Jason
Alexander's name shows up as

Jason Alexander
as
George

Why?
In fact I have seen this happen in other shows
too. For ex, in Three's Company, you can see
'some name'(I forget) as the Ropers. I wonder if
this means anything.

Sharma
-- 
The opinions expressed here are solely mine. My company has nothing
to do with these.

Email: sharma@euler.warren.mentorg.com
From: df2tg2n@ties.bell-atl.com (Steve Rosen)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: Kramers other personalities
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:02:13 GMT
Reply-To: df2tg2n@shoes.bell-atl.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bell Atlantic - Phila, PA

In article <1992Sep4.142951.19902@ils.nwu.edu>, tsui@ils.nwu.edu writes:
|> In article <1992Sep2.174257.28720@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
|> Donald.E.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Donald E. Reed) writes:
|> >I liked his role in Wierd Al Yankovics movie UHF. Stanly Spudowski's
|> >playhouse and the scene's with his kidnappers  were great.
|> >
|> >Don Reed
|> >
|> 
|> 
|> THATS RIGHT!!! I was wondering why Kramer always looked so familiar!!!  I
|> remember watching UHF and thinking to myself "this movie sucks but that one
|> character should have his own TV show."
|> 
|> He is great in this film!!
|> 
|> the rest sucks.

Correct me if I'm wrong and I haven't seen this mentioned here... But
wasn't Michael Richards on Saturday Night Live as a cast member a while
back?  That's where I seem to remember him from, or am I thinking of a
totally different show in the same realm.  Where did he first show up on
TV?  Somebody must know this.

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From: whare@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: Kramer in person
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:54:33 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Sep1.165414.15225@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, RZAL90@email.sps.mot.com (Eric Johnson) writes:
> I was in L.A. this past weekend.  Hung out outside the Emmys in Pasadena on
> Sunday PM.  Happened to see Michael Richards wandering around.  He looked
> a bit odd, wearing a tux, but the same hairstyle as on the show!  Saw a whole
> bunch of other tv people, but no sign of Jerry...

COOOOOOL!!! Man I'd like to hag out in LA. Gheez!

Did you yell ''KRAMER!!''

:-)
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From: djm0238@zeus.tamu.edu (Heath "H-man" Allyn)
Subject: Re: request for episode guide
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 06:08:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.003143.15@acavax.lynchburg.edu>, teague@acavax.lynchburg.edu writes...
> 
>Is an episode guide available? ... would appreciate a copy.
>---
>Kipp
>teague@acavax.lynchburg.edu

Me too! Pleeeease?
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From: conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
Subject: Re: Seinfeld Question
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:15:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.202149.3855@Warren.MENTORG.COM> sharma@euler.Warren.MENTORG.COM (Sharma Kunapalli) writes:

>When the characters names show up on TV at the
>beginning of every show, how come only Jason
>Alexander's name shows up as

>Jason Alexander
>as
>George

>Why?
>In fact I have seen this happen in other shows
>too. For ex, in Three's Company, you can see
>'some name'(I forget) as the Ropers. I wonder if
>this means anything.

It means Jason Alexander got a good contract deal.  You're only just
noticing this?  :-)  It's been happening in movies, theater, and tv for
a few decades.

See, the best spot in the acting credits is first, no question.  And in
a show called Seinfeld, that's gonna go to Jerry Seinfeld.  After that,
it's kind of a cattle call; who remembers who came second or third or
whatever?  (Yes, I know True Fans do.)

So, many actors feel that the smart move is to negotiate for last spot.
And punch it up with an "and" :  "And Mary Tyler Moore" (on
the Dick Van Dyke show).  Even better, get both "and" and "as".  Hill
Street Blues had a pair at the end:  "Charles Haid as Renko | AND
Veronica Hamel as Joyce Davenport."  Haid was a leading-type actor who
was taking an ensemble job and wanted his credit punched up, and Hamel
was the last character to be cast, and all the "good" spots up front
were already taken.  (Agents negotiate these things for weeks --
months.)

So with Jason Alexander.  He gets a little extra recognition this way,
he seems like more of a "somebody."  And, being a Tony-award winning
actor who now finds himself playing sidekick to a standup comedian, such
a perk helps keep him happy.

Jon Alan Conrad
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