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From: wjs@re3sc139h.gmr.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: REQ: Realtime Graphical GUI Interface Info
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:15:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: EDS Test Engineering Systems

Hi there,

My organization is currently looking for software packages to help
us build a GUI for our real-time product.  Specifically, we are 
looking for a package that will give us source code portability 
between X11 and Microsoft Windows.  This package needs to be able 
to handle dynamic graphics as well (i.e. control widgets, lights, 
knobs, switches, dynamically updating graphs, etc.).

We already know of the XVT Corp. product, but it does not have the
graphical capabilities we are looking for (it's great for portability
between Windows and X11).

If anyone has any information on this type of product, please respond
directly by email ASAP !  We are in a hurry to get this info !


			 Thanks netters !

			 Walt Stuart    wjs@re3sc139h.gmr.com
			 GM/EDS Research Labs
			 Warren, Mi  
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
From: bobhays@spss.com (Bob Hays)
Subject: Re: Opinion of O'Reilly Guides to the X Window System
Organization: SPSS, Inc.
Distribution: inet
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:50:36 GMT

In article <9210061313.ZM8336@z-code.com>, argv@z-code.z-code.com (Dan Heller) writes:
> > On Oct  6,  2:07am, david holliday wrote:
{stuff deleted about Ken Lee, DEC, and opinions}
> For whatever it's worth, I wrote The Motif Programming Manual to benefit the
> X windows community and to provide a guide for good programming concepts and
> technical design issues.  I am (and always have been) extremely open to any
> suggestions, comments, criticisms, or anything at all concerning my book.
> I treat it as a public service -- like the internet.  So, if you or anyone
> else has constructive comments about the book, feel free to email me.  I
> have never turned away email. :-)

On the subject of reviews, reviews are done by a person with bias.
That person should make the bias clear at the start, but some do not.
I think Dan's book is the best programming documentation for OSF/Motif
since it includes the programmer's reference materials in the back and
sections on important programming issues in the front.  However, it
would be nice to have a similar book to discuss the Motif Resource
Manager (Mrm) routines and the use of UIL, which, as Dan freely
admits, was not the aim of his book.  I don't agree with Dan's opinion
of UIL, but that is of secondary importance....

On with the current thread....

I like the Digital Press books on X and Xt - I use them all the time.
I've tried to use the O'Reilly books and I don't personally like them
(the first volumes of the X book set).  I'm looking forward to getting
the Server book from Digital Press soon.

For education, I suggest the following:

Douglas Young, _X Window Systems Programming with <fill in your
favorite toolkit - I have the Xt version (before the Motif one came
out) which uses the HP widget set - it is still helpful anyway>.
        This book is a good text on learning to use toolkit and
        widgets.

Oliver Jones, _Introduction to the X Window System_.
        This was good enough that a "friend" of mine stole it from me.
        Use this as an intro to X programming 101.

Kobara, _Visual Design with OSF/Motif.
        This book will show exactly what each resource value is for
        and at least one way to handle a large number of display
        design issues.

These are my opinions only - everyone will have her or his own.

Have fun! - Bob

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From: lynette@oliver.sun.ac.za (Lynette Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: HP9000 mwm HASSLES!!!!
Date: 14 Oct 92 10:05:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: hippo.1992Oct14.100500.3128
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I have a friend who is working on an HP9000/730 system, under HP-UX ver A.08.07, and
running Motif 1.1 (X Rel 4).  She hasn't got access to the net, so I'm posting this
query for her:

FOCUS PROBLEMS:
The window manager defaults (in home directory, and in /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults) are 
all defaults and have not been tampered with!  
Having established that, the following problem occurs: Suppose a text widget is 
being displayed, and has focus.  Now, when a pulldown menu is selected with the mouse, it gets the
focus (correctly).  But, when the pulldown menu disappears, the focus is not returned
to the text widget as would be expected.  Instead, the text widget shows the standard
caret(^) at the current position, and only by holding in the middle mouse button can
it get the focus back! However, by popping any other dialog up on the screen (say a 
help or warning dialog), and popping it of again, focus is then correctly restored
to the text widget.

It seems to me as if the mwm focus policy just gets totally confused when a pulldown
menu is selected with the mouse (oh yes, and by the way, if a menu a posted with F10,
the above problem just not occur!!!).  Did anybody anywhere ever had a similar 
problem, and can anybody suggest any type of solution?  

Thanks a lot.

Lynette van Zijl
Stellenbosch University
(e-mail: lynette@cs.sun.ac.za)
From: skinner@cshl.org (John Skinner)
Subject: Manipulating paned window section sizes with code
Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:41:29 GMT

I have an application with a paned window. I would like to change
the section sizes as you would with the sashes, but I want to do it 
from my code while the program is running. Is this possible?

Thanks in advance,
John

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e-mail : skinner1@bnl.gov
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
From: william@bourbon.cs.ucla.edu (William Cheng)
Subject: Re: Seeking WSYWYG basic vu-graph editor for RS/6000
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 04:40:11 GMT

In article <1bcd2mINNaeu@ef2007.efhd.ford.com> smd@sl0091.srl.ford.com (Steve Dahmen) writes:
>
>Can anyone recommend a public domain, X/Motif, fairly basic slide composers
>similar to SGI's Showcase?  We just want to be able to put big text
>easily on a page, and spool it to a postscript printer. Color support
>would be cool, but not necessary.

How about something that's just X (not Motif)?  You can try tgif, a
MacDraw-like freeware.  You can get it through anonymous ftp from
export.lcs.mit.edu:/contrib/tgif*.  Use the SetReduction() command
under the LayoutMenu to set the reduction/maginification for slides.

BTW, Steve, the smd@sl0091.srl.ford.com address doesn't seem to work!
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
From: d91-jda@zorin.nada.kth.se (Johan Danielsson)
Subject: Horizontal PanedWindow
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 01:18:07 GMT

Is it possible, with reasonable effort, to make one?
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From: bobmcg@castle.ed.ac.uk (Bob McGonigle)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: Postscript to European X User Group Conference
Keywords: X, conference
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:58:45 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University Computing Service

The recently held European X User Group conference and exhibition was
resounding success.  This is the fourth year the event has been held, and X
Windows continues to gain new ground and attract more players.

The exhibition was well-attended, with exhibitors offering a wide range of
X terminals, software development tools, training programmes and
connectivity products.  Exhibitors included NCD, Tektronics, V1, VisionWare
and IST.

Speakers addressed issues such as X for conferencing and group working;
current technological trends; X over slow lines; display PostScript and
graphics within X Windows.

Continuing the EXUG policy of inviting big names from the world of X, this
year three US-based experts headed the programme - Doug Young, Oliver Jones
and Bob Scheifler.  The programme included presentations by over 20
speakers, from eight countries.

Pre-conference tutorials proved a major attraction.  Subjects on offer this
year included 'Using C++ with Motif', Debugging X Programs', and a course
designed for newcomers to X - 'From Awareness to Understanding'.

The strength of interest shown in this year's conference has given a boost
to EXUG plans for 1993, including a rolling programme of tutorials,
seminars and workshops, to be held in centres in the UK and other EC
countries.

This year's proceedings are available for 30 pounds (inc.  P&P) from
EXUG, PO Box 458, Cambridge, CB3 8SD, Great Britain.  Payment by cheque
or credit card. 

For further information about the European X User Group and coming
events, telephone +44 (0)223 426534 or fax +44 (0) 223 420251.
From: jim@bat.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jim Curran)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: Re: How can you tell when the pointer is on the BORDER (neither in nor out)
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:39:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: bat.JIM.92Oct13153953
Followup-To: comp.windows.x.motif
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ohio State Computer Science
Originator: jim@bat.cis.ohio-state.edu

I'm not sure but doesn't Motif implement that sort of behavior with multiple
"panes" surrounding the managed window.  So instead of a border crossing you
would get an EnterNotify or LeaveNotify event?  Actually, isn't there some way
to automatically specify the cursor which should be used when the pointer is
in one of those surrounding windows?  Without reaching for O'Reilly that's
my guess.


Jim
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Xref: sparky comp.windows.x.motif:6799 comp.sys.hp:11631
From: bame@odin.khe.siemens.de (AUT E 382 A2)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: (none)
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:33:25 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet

please send me help information about
your mailing list
From: murai@rd.yahata.enicom.nsc.co.jp (Toshifumi Murai)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: Re: Mailing List
Date: 12 Oct 92 08:42:12 GMT
Organization: Nishi-Nihon Regional Office, NIPPON STEEL Information &
	Communication Systems Inc., Japan


Hello,

I also would like to join in the mailing list for this news group.
Please tell me how I can do it ?

Thanks in advance,
Toshifumi Murai.

... Please excuse me for my poor english.

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    Toshifumi Murai	murai@rd.yahata.enicom.nsc.co.jp
		TEL : 093-872-6023   FAX : 093-872-6272
From: jarnold@spot.wrc.xerox.com (jeff arnold esc1-318)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: Re: Setting an insensitive Pixmap from a resource file
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:49:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Xerox


Hi,
  I've got the same problem.  Is it a feature or ...

Thanks,

Henry.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
From: kulla@casee.enet.dec.com (Marc Kulla)
Subject: Change the Cursor in XmTextField?
Reply-To: kulla@casee.enet.dec.com (Marc Kulla)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 10:56:33 GMT



Is it possible to change the cursor in a Text Field?  I don't want
to change the mouse, I want to change the cursor that indicates where
the insert position is.  I would like it to be an I-beam, not the "^". 

Thanks

Marc
e-mail: kulla@casee.enet.dec.com
From: weinhous@RadOnc.Duke.EDU (Marty Weinhous)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: using scrollbars of scrolledWindow
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:24:25 GMT
Organization: Radiation Oncology, Hahnemann U, Phil PA, 215/448-8616
Originator: weinhous@roentgen.RadOnc.Duke.EDU

Posted for a colleague...

---------------------------------------------------
greetings all,

I have a question about how access the functionality of the scrollbars
of a scrolledWindow widget. 

After I've created the scrolledWindow and the child it will be
managing, I wish to center the scrollbars on the child. I would have
thought that XmScrollBarSetValues would do this, but while it does
center the scrolbars, it doesn't update the child of the scrolled
window. If I access the scrollbars with the mouse, the new value is
used and the window is correctly redrawn. 

What is the proper way to accomplish this? Here is the code I thought
would accomplish the task:

void centerScrollBars(scrollw)
     Widget scrollw;
{
  int start,end,size,inc,page,value;
  Widget scrollBar1,scrollBar2;
  
  XtVaGetValues(scrollw,
		XmNhorizontalScrollBar,&scrollBar1,
		XmNverticalScrollBar,&scrollBar2,
		NULL);
  XtVaGetValues(scrollBar1,
		XmNminimum,&start,
		XmNmaximum,&end,
		XmNvalueChangedCallback, valueCallback,
		NULL);
  XmScrollBarGetValues(scrollBar1,&value,&size,&inc,&page);
  XmScrollBarSetValues(scrollBar1,(end-size-start)/2,size,inc,page);
  XtVaGetValues(scrollBar2,
		XmNminimum,&start,
		XmNmaximum,&end,
		NULL);
  XmScrollBarGetValues(scrollBar2,&value,&size,&inc,&page);
  XmScrollBarSetValues(scrollBar2,(end-size-start)/2,size,inc,page);
}

=======================================================================
Donald C. Snow         || snow@castor.hahnemann.edu    ||
Senior Systems Analyst || snow@hal.hahnemann.edu       ||            
Radiation Oncology     ||        (and)                 ||      	    
Hahnemann University   || gaston@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu||      	    
=======================================================================

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 Marty Weinhous, Ph.D.			weinhous@radonc.hahnemann.edu
 Radiation Oncology, Hahnemann U.
 Philadelphia, PA 19102,		215/762-8616
From: xnews@had.UUCP (News Groups Distribution)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: NLS and X-Windows
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:45:41 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet

On 2 October 1992, in a post about dialog shells Bjoern Stabell writes:

	>I believe this is a good habit since it enables you to change the default
	>language by using a different app-defaults file (not everybody wants
	>english :)  Choosing the right app-defaults file (based on your LANG) is is
	>done automagically if you have NLS (and have it configured properly).

This reminds me of a problem that we (i.e. my company) has run into.  We are 
currently developing software which will support NLS.  We are developing under 
X11R4/Motif1.1. We would like to use the NLS support that is built into Motif 
(i.e. different app-default files depending on the language), however, many of 
our applications print reports.  This causes a problem because there are no 
widgets associated with the strings which need to be printed.  Also, several 
widgets need different labels during the course of running the application.

Has anyone had similiar experiences and if so how did you solve them.


---------------------------------------------
Paul M. Bombach
pmb@had.UUCP no/ had!pmb@sharkey.cc.umich.edu
Horiba Instruments - Ann Arbor, MI
---------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
From: sautins@tramp.Colorado.EDU (SAUTINS ANDREW MICHAEL)
Subject: Message Box Pixmap Color
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:08:01 GMT

	Is there an easy way to change the color of the pixmap 
used in the message dialog widget?  For instance, I would like to 
color the symbol red for an added effect.  Any Ideas?

	Thanks

		sautins@wasser.colorado.edu

Xref: sparky comp.windows.x.motif:6823 comp.windows.x:17880
From: ramakris@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (S.Ramakrishnan)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.x
Subject: Use of constant strings in UIL description
Keywords: Uil, XmNuserData, Storage allocation
Date: 15 Oct 92 06:24:21 GMT
Followup-To: comp.windows.x.motif
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA


  [
    * Motif vers 1.2
    * Motif Uil Compiler V2.0-000
    * SPARCstation, SunOS Release 4.1.1 (GENERIC) #1
  ]
  
(1)
In a Uil description of a UI layout, I need to 
attach a constant string (that is, a constant within the 
uil file) as user data to a primitive widget. The following
fragment produces empty XmNuserData at runtime :

   module Bajji ;

    [...]
    my_text : exported XmText {
      arguments {
       XmNuserData = "SilkSmitha" ;
      };
    };
    [...]

At runtime however, the userdata of "my_text" turns out to be an 
empty string instead of "SilkSmitha" :-(.

   ...MrmInitialize...
   ...MrmRegisterNames...
   ...MrmFetchWidget (top widget)...
   [...]
   Widget my_text = XtNameToWidget(top, "*my_text");
   caddr_t opaque ;
   XtVaGetValues(my_text, XmNuserData, &opqaue, NULL);

   { (String)opaque turns out to be "" }
   [...]

Were there a restriction that only identifiers may be bound this way
and not constants, the Uil compiler'd (*) have pointed it out ?

(2)
As an aside, when is storage allocated to the constant strings declared
within Uil ? Is it done when the hierarchy is opened or when the
hierarchy is "fetched" (realized) ? Are such strings stored in the code 
segment ? If that's the case, would muliple instantiations of the Ui
template "Bajji" share a common space allocated to the string 
"SilkSmitha" ?

(3)
Is there any "Tricks of the UIL Masters" kind of a book (a la Dan
Heller's "Motif Programming Manual") ? Apart form the manuals, the 
only book that seems to dwell on the subject bit more than cursorily 
seems to be Thomas Berlage's book on Motif. Yet, this treatment is
quite brief. Further, there are typos in crucial places (such as 
"XmNcreateCallback" for "MrmNcreateCallback").

I really need the answers to or any suggestions about question (1),
(2) and (3) being secondary queries. I'd really be obliged
if some Uil expert could suggest a solution to (1) that would
not necessitate the use of identifiers.

Thanx.


(*): Talking of the Uil compiler, it really taught me the meaning of
     snowballing error messages.

---
S Ramakrishnan, CS Dept, McBryde Hall, VaTech
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
From: maru@enea.se (Martin Runesson)
Subject: Multiple Top-level Shells 
Organization: Enea Data AB
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:57:22 GMT


Hi,

I have a problem when I use multiple toplevel shells and try to set resources
from a resource file.

I get my first shell (applicationShellWidgetClass) with XtAppInitialize. 
I use  XtAppCreateShell to create additional shells (toplevelShellWidgetClass).
The application_class for all shells are set to "My_application".

When I set resources in a resource file, I want to use to use my 
application_class name "My_application" to specify all resources in my 
application. This has effect only for those widgets that are  children to
my first top-level shell. Why ?

If a set application_name to "My_application" for all additional shells It 
works fine. (I don't think that's a good solution)


Martin

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From: pickerig@dns0.bham.ac.uk (Mr. G. Pickering)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: Re: HHEELLPP
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:42:18 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

If your problem is only with xterms, set the resource 'multiClickTime' to
something larger than 250ms in your .Xdefaults file:

  Xterm*multiClickTime:		300

--
Guy Pickering
Electronic Eng, University of Birmingham, Edgbaston, Birmingham. ENGLAND
G.PICKERING@uk.ac.bham  or pickering@uk.ac.bham.eee
From: dbrooks@osf.org
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: Re: WANTED: Used copy of Motif for Sun 3/60
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:23:34 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet

Stuart J Adams wrote:
> Anyone have an old copy of Motif for the Sun 3 that they
> would like to get rid of ????

I wonder what "used" means in this context.

Remember any transfer of source requires a source license both ends; any
transfer of binaries incurs a royalty fee.

David Brooks
Systems Engineering
Open Software Foundation
Xref: sparky comp.windows.x.motif:6764 comp.windows.x:17757
From: smd@sl0091.srl.ford.com (Steve Dahmen)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.x
Subject: Seeking WSYWYG basic vu-graph editor for RS/6000
Date: 12 Oct 1992 17:36:22 GMT
Organization: Scientific Research Lab, Ford Motor Company
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sl0091.srl.ford.com
Originator: smd@sl0091.srl.ford.com


Can anyone recommend a public domain, X/Motif, fairly basic slide composers
similar to SGI's Showcase?  We just want to be able to put big text
easily on a page, and spool it to a postscript printer. Color support
would be cool, but not necessary.

Thanks for your help!!

-- 
Steve Dahmen ** Graphics Application Programmer
Ford Motor Company
smd@sl0091.srl.ford.com
313-594-3229 (work)
-- 
Steve Dahmen ** Graphics Application Programmer
Ford Motor Company
smd@sl0091.srl.ford.com
313-594-3229 (work)
From: csb960dean@qut.edu.au (Michael Dean)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: Text/List widget questions
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:38:42 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

Gidday
   Can someone tell me if the motif text widget has an overwrite
mode, that is, no new characters are inserted into a line when 
you type, the old ones are just overwritten, 

and

does the list widget supplied with motif capable of doing 
multiple columns.

Thanks

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Michael Dean ,                        csb960dean@qut.edu.au

QUT - Queensland University of Technology

Do you ever get that feeling of vu ja de???
the feeling that none of this has ever happened before!!
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
From: sjwright@cix.compulink.co.uk (Simon Wright)
Subject: DoD Style Guide for Motif?
Cc: sjwright@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: sjwright@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:09:47 +0000

Hi -

I believe there's a DoD style guide for the use of Motif in military
applications.

Does anyone know of -

* the official title?
* an FTP site where it might be available?

(This may turn out to be a re-post - having trouble with my gateway.
 If so, sorry)

Regards,

-Simon
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
From: sigler@hp750.itg.ti.com (John Sigler)
Subject: Uil future support
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:57:12 GMT
Organization: IEF Development, Texas Instruments Inc., Plano Texas
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at Texas Instruments Inc.
              The opinions expressed within are those of the user and not
              necessarily those of Texas Instruments.
                                                     


We've heard rumours from a vendors' (HP) tech rep that UIL would not be
supported after 1.2. Does anyone know if there is ant truth to the rumour? 
Is this coming from OSF? I noticed Dan Heller saying he was writing a book
covering UIL possibly to be out as early as next year which gives me the
impression someone is still supporting it.

--
John Sigler     
Texas Instruments        Any opinions are my own!

email (internal TI): sigler@hp750.itg.ti.com
      (external):    sigler@lobby.itg.ti.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif