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From: douillar@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Douillard Pierre-Jean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: HELP:  PROBLEM WITH RUNNING SHERLOCK HOLMES
Date: 30 Dec 92 23:10:21 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <1992Dec29.033310.849@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> liana@nexus.yorku.ca (Liana Simons) writes:
>
>Run into a problem when trying to play Sherlock Holmes.
>
>1) Getting clipped digital speech.  I'm using a Sound Blaster Pro with
>standard IRQ settings and the DMA setting in emm386 or 386MAX has been changed
>to 40.
>
>2) After playing the game *ONCE* it now crashes after the intro credits roll on
>the screen with the following error.  I have tried using emm386.exe and 386MAX
>memory drivers.  Both come up with the same error at the same spot.  I am also
>using a smartdrv cache.
>
>
>   Unable to install device driver for some reason
>
>   418672 Base Free (573992 at DOS) out of a total of 640K
>   Heap integrity verified as ok
>   DOS version 5.0
>   current disk C: 4276K bytes free of 105584K
>
>
>   Total EMS current used: 0
>
>   0 disks hits saved by cache. 0 bytes in disk hits saved.
>
>Has anyone else ever run into these problems? Does anyone have any solutions?
>My wife is relatively angry at having a new X-Mas toy and not being able to use
>it.
>
>Either post, or send me e-mail.
>
>Thanks alot
>
>Wanderer
>
>Frustrated at a 29Meg game that won't work!
>
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>Liana Simons                         | WANDERER - Robert Simons
>Cat Owner,                           | Wandering through cold silicon hallways,
>Cat Lover                            | Seeing everything, but nothing,
>and Cat Owned!                       | Forever Wandering, The Wanderer
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Hi!  I got that problem too.  Try this in your config.sys:

If you're running with DOS 5.0 EMM386.EXE do

device=c:\dos\emm386.exe on 1024 ram d=32

this should 'fix' the crash.  It worked for me. :)
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From: cclark@cco.caltech.edu (Clark C. Chang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: Dune II: Is my strategy wrong?
Date: 26 Dec 1992 05:05:07 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

I finished the game as all three houses, finally, yesterday.
3 hours to complete the third mission is not overly long, and your stats from enemy killed aren't that far off (although they are larger than what I usually get) There are 9 missions total for each house...
My times for each missions start at 6 minutes for mission 1 progresing to 3 hours at mission 9.. .the more you play, the more you know what you can do, what to shortcut, etc.

If you explained your strategy, I might be able to suggest improvements...


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Subject: Re: Steve Jackson's 'Hacker'
From: morgan@arc.ab.ca (Sean Morgan)
Date: 29 Dec 92 10:00:25 MDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Alberta Research Council

In article <BzG20A.2Dw@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cad28526@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chuck
Douglas) writes:
>morgan@arc.ab.ca (Sean Morgan) writes:
>
>[stuff about a game NOT by SJG deleted]
>
>>According to an article in Analog (January 1993)  he was shut down the feds,
>>who thought that his Cyberpunk GURPS (in progress) was a manual on how to
>>commit computer crime.  Now he is virtually bankrupt.  Your tax dollars at
work
>>(I am a Canadian, apologies to any USians who take offense).
>
>Where did you hear he is virtually bankrupt?!?!?!?  Unless things have 
>DRASTICALLY changed in, oh say, the last 3 months, that is utter GARBAGE.

Can't you read"?!?!?!?"  I cited my source!!!!!  I will now take this to
em-mail,
but I felt that I had to post at least that much.
-----------------+-------------------------------
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                 | RESEARCH  Calgary, AB, Canada
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From: oneill@cs.ulowell.edu (Brian 'Doc' O'Neill)
Subject: Re: Do _NOT_ upload sf2 to ftp.ulowell.edu!!!
Originator: oneill@bigmax.ulowell.edu
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:26:05 GMT


In article <1992Dec22.221619.29270@r-node.gts.org>, shadow@r-node.gts.org (Jay Chu) writes:
|> >Brian 'Doc' O'Neill@cs.u (466)
|> >> Please people, do not continue uploading any of the sf2 files to
|> >> ftp.ulowell.edu. I am not accepting them. Until I get something from CAPCOM
|> >> saying it is OK for it to be distributed, it will not be allowed on
|> >> ftp.ulowell.edu.
|> 
|> Hey, Brian, you are stupid.  Everyone except you knows that SF2IBM.ZIP and
|> SF2NEW.ZIP are not commercial programs.  Oh well, can't feed a dead horse
|> water.

Excuse me??? I never said those were commercial...I said that they are in
violation of copyrights and trademarks owned by Capcom, and are therefore
illegal in the United States, and are therefore not going to be allowed on
ftp.ulowell.edu. Can't feed a live Administrator illegal software...

I'll leave the name calling to others...

=======================================================================
Brian O'Neill - Systems Manager, Computer Science 	 (508) 934-3645
University of Massachusetts at Lowell
Internet: oneill@ulowell.edu		Moderator, comp.binaries.ibm.pc
From: IO01255@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: Location of current version of Falcon upgrade
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:55:34 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

About a month ago I bought the new scenario disk for Falcon 3.0 and it
had (as well as the alternate scenarios, new book with new stuff, etc..)
the upgrade for Falcon 3.01.  I like the upgrades greatly.  It eliminates
just about all the bugs that I knew about, gives new synthesised voices,
better options for missions, etc...  It was well woth the $20.
One should be able to find it at just about any software store.
From: c2s4027@tamsun.tamu.edu (Cedric Sims)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: **Games For Sale/ LSL5 & Robin Hood (VGA)
Date: 23 Dec 1992 10:25:34 -0600
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu

Merry Christmas!

I have a couple of excellent games for sale:

Robin Hood            VGA only 7-3.5" HDs  $25
Leisure Suit Larry 5  VGA only 7-5.25"HDs  $25

I'll pay shipping, I'll take offers for both.

Later,
Cedrico.
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From: pgeltner@netcon.smc.edu (Peter Geltner)
Subject: Re: Did Anyone Find Some Bugs Playing "Clouds of Xeen"?
Organization: Santa Monica College, Santa Monica, CA
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 22:43:42 GMT

In article <1hjj8sINNo1h@crcnis1.unl.edu> fall278@cse.unl.edu writes:
>Hi Fellows!  Recently I've bought M&M(Clouds of Xeen) and I've found some bugs
>in my game.  Well, I couldn't get into a few places in the game such as Temple
>of Yak, Tomb of 1000 Terrors, Golem Dungeon,etc.  When I tried to enter these 
>places, I would be kicked out from the game and return to dos.  And above my
>screen, it shown "Clouds of Xeen run out of memory." So, did anyone of you come
>across these problems while playing Clouds of Xeen?  What's the problem here?
>I would be appreciated if there are someone could kindly tell what could be
>done.
>
>Thanks in Advance! 


If you are running SMARTDRV, you will need to restart your game (sorry!).
Unless a bug fix has been posted for this since I played it.  Make sure
that you are not running SMARTDRV because this program corrupts the save
files in Xeen.  I had to restart my game to get around this. :=(

-- 

Peter Geltner   Administrative Dean of Computing
                Santa Monica College
                Santa Monica, California 90405
From: 01lucas@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: New Version of Wing Commander (No solution yet)
Date: 25 Dec 92 23:01:09 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <BztwJ2.93w@umassd.edu>, lambda@cis.umassd.edu (David G. Beals) writes:
> I just got the new version of Wing Commander (1) for Christmas, and I'm having
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^     

Sorry, I don't have a solution to your problem, but the header caught my eye.
I've never heard of a new version of WC.  Could you please tell me about this
and how it's different from the original?  Thanks!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: sci30139@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN CHYE HEE)
Subject: Wiz 7
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 12:35:28 GMT



--
Help!!!!
I am not sure what to do at the mountains and caves. I have found a cave
near Ukpyr and also the Witches Cave, but I do not know what to do.

Also, what do I do now that I have explored all the towns.
Thanks.


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			Gilbert Tan Chye Hee
		      sci30139@nusunix1.nus.sg



Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: byron@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Byron Eastman)
Subject: KQ6 Entering Demon World
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 20:54:21 GMT

Happy New Year!

How does one enter the Demon World - Graphics are supposed to be great
(?)

Byron
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: kasycz@geod.emr.ca (Ray Kasycz)
Subject: Re: KQ6 (no spoilers)
Organization: Dept. of Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:26:56 GMT

katherim@fraser.sfu.ca (Katherine Merle Mason) writes:

>AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!

>Catharsis is wonderful, ain't it?!?

Yes but dramatic irony and pathos come in at a close second...?

So are we looking for help here or just expressing anguish, I am
overwhelmed by curiousity...???  <grin> 
--
Ray Kasycz                                          
Geodetic Survey of Canada       \  " the matrix looks good today but  \
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada           \    I'm gonna punch the simstim      \
Internet: kasycz@geod.emr.ca        \    and go check on Molly... "       \
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: iac1@ra.msstate.edu (Ian Chen)
Subject: Re: Did Anyone Find Some Bugs Playing "Clouds of Xeen"?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 23:14:23 GMT

fall278@cse.unl.edu writes:

>Hi Fellows!  Recently I've bought M&M(Clouds of Xeen) and I've found some bugs
>in my game.  Well, I couldn't get into a few places in the game such as Temple
>of Yak, Tomb of 1000 Terrors, Golem Dungeon,etc.  When I tried to enter these 
>places, I would be kicked out from the game and return to dos.  And above my
>screen, it shown "Clouds of Xeen run out of memory." So, did anyone of you come
>across these problems while playing Clouds of Xeen?  What's the problem here?
>I would be appreciated if there are someone could kindly tell what could be
>done.

Hmmm... no problems on my end with any memory... and i was running on a bare
2 megs also (with qemm)... a little over 610(?)K in base memory also... i
forget... I haven't finished the game, but the only places i really have left
are darzog's tower, dragon cave, and golem dungeon if i remember correctly...
The only bug i found while playing the game, and i haven't been able to
repeat it yet since i haven't gotten the item again was:  I found one of the
items which lets you case Lloyd's Beacon (so useful :).. anyways, i used the
item... set it to specific coordinates... unfortunately when i tried to 
return via the item, i got dumped directly back to dos.. it said something
about some file, but i didn't catch it...so...*shrug*
 
 As for your problems, i'd assume you have enough ex. memory to run it, plus
enough base, otherwise it wouldn't get going as is... try removing any
extra stuff, tsr's; leave out stuff you don't need for the game... that, or
if i remember, there might be a patch floating around somewhere...

good luck
-Ian

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: mktjadx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Jeff A. Dilcher)
Subject: Re: Two player modem games?
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 05:12:47 GMT


 
 -> As long as this is about modem games....does anyone have any tricks
 -> and tips
 -> to keep the games from crashing while being played by modem? PG
 -> has a nasty habit of losing connection just as I'm crushing my
 -> opponent.
 -> Also, has anyone figured out a way to play these games over the net?
 -> I would like to increase my fodder pool :).
 ->  
 -> Jeff
 -> 
 

Yes, I too am interested about playing modem games over the net.
I recently picked up Command HQ on sale during the Holidays.  Inside, I
got a lot of advertisments about how I could hook up with other players
over Compuserve.  Now, being a student, I am not about to shell out that
kind of money, but I began to wonder why this could not be played over the
internet?  What, if any, are the technical reasons why it can not be done?

I seem to remember some talk of people playing Falcon30 over the net.  How
did you do it?

Enquiring geeks want to know!
Jd


-- 
 
  Jeffrey A. Dilcher                                   Atlanta, GA, USA
mktjadx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu                             Telephone 404-266-1585
      NSS #25914                                       II Peter 1:10,11
 



Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: Joel_Murray@mindlink.bc.ca (Joel Murray)
Subject: Re: Ejecting in ATOP
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 18:48:58 GMT

: jmm0021@rigel.tamu.edu writes:
:
: Msg-ID: <3JAN199302550089@rigel.tamu.edu>
: Posted: 3 Jan 1993 02:55 CST
:
: Org.  : Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
:
: Is there a way to eject out of the aircraft in ATOP.
:
: Thanks In advance.

Manual, page 208.
--

       Joel Murray / Vancouver, British Columbia  /  Canada, Eh?
       Joel_Murray@mindlink.bc.ca               CIS:  73200,3117

Ligneous and petrous projectiles can potentially fracture my osseous
structure, but pejorative appellations will forever remain innocuous.
From: graham@cs.utexas.edu (Ralph Arnold Graham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Looking for Wolf-like games....
Date: 21 Dec 1992 16:07:45 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelady.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: wolfenstein

I'm not much of a game player, but I would like to purchase a game for my
brother for Christmas.  I think he liked Wolfenstein, as well as Commander
Keen.  I'm looking for a 3D game that is similar to Wolfenstein - I guess
the shoot 'em up/vigilante sort of stuff.  Someone mentioned both Ultima
Underworld and a game called Terminator 2029 (or something like that).  Are
these any good?  What are some good titles I could choose from?  He has
a good system (486-33, 16MB, SVGA, etc), so resources should not be a problem.
Oh, there IS ONE SLIGHT PROBLEM:  he only runs OS/2 - doesn't even have
Boot Manager installed, so any game would have to operate in a VDM under
OS/2.  Any helps/hints?

On another note, I just purchased a Gravis Ultrasound card and have heard
tht the only game offering native GUS support is StarControl II.  Is this
game any good?  What is is about?

Thanks for all your help.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: Eric B Karabin <ekarabin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: U7 Key Gone!!  ver3.4
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 14:14:22 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]



I have the new version of Ultima 7 (upgraded by installing FOV).

	I have been playing for a few days and now I look back in my
inventory for the key to the storage room on the roof of Lord British's
castle.  It's nowhere to be found.
	Is this a bug?  Do I have to start over??  It's version 3.4.


	What is all this talk I hear about some bodies in Minoc
disappearing???  I don't seem to remember ever seeing any bodies there.
What EXACTLY do you get from these bodies?  Maybe I already have it.

			Eric...

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From: msc@sparc1.ee.ncku.edu.tw ( Mac Su Cheong (Ph.D.))
Subject: Re: Need help again on Prophecy of the Shadow...(SPOILER)
Organization: National Cheng Kung University, Tainan, Taiwan
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 08:33:46 GMT

hillyard@CS.ColoState.EDU (kevin paul hillyard) writes:
: 	Well, I'm stuck at the same point... in Abraxus's Tomb, and I've broken
: the four seals... but I can't wake up Abraxus (or kill him, for that matter..)
: Help!  Maybe I've missed an item somewhere or something... and as usual,
: I'd prefer a hint that would push me in the right direction instead of a 
: blatent answer... thanks...
: 
    I am still stuck at that point. Someone told me that I need a spell
(thanks a lot) to wake Abraxus up. The spell can be found in the south.
Anyway I haven't the spell yet.

    I think I have missed something in the game. There are many items that
I can't find their usage. For example, the black potion, the potion from
Gazor's remain, are they useful besides hurting me? the tongue, fruit, etc.,
so many items with unknown usage. Anyone knows what are these items?
Thank you very much for all your help.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: tyler.brown@uuserv.cc.utah.edu (TYLER JAMES BROWN)
Subject: The Incredible Machine: Level 78 (help needed)
Organization: The University of Utah
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 23:29:23 GMT

	This is a great game. I have been crusing right along and haven't 
been stuck until now. I supposed to free Pokey the Cat by lifting his cage.
The only way I can see of doing it is tying his cage to the bucket and then
having the cannon ball (or the bowling ball) fall into it. I haven't even 
come close to this. Could someone please tell me how it is done?

				Tyler
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: bau55536@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Larry Combs Jr)
Subject: Police Quest III HELP!!!
Summary: help for pq3
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 23:17:25 GMT
Keywords: pq3

Can anyone out there in Netland tell me where the hospital is located
in Lyton?  I need to know, and cannot find it.  ANy help would be greatly
appreciated.
					Thanks in advance.
						Larry Combs, Jr.
						b-uffelmann@uiuc.edu
From: cctr120@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz (Brendon Wyber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Please send me S301 walkthrough
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:42:14 GMT
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Howdy,

  Could some kind soul please send me the walk through for Spellcasting 301:
Spring Break.

Thanks in advance

Be seeing you,

Brendon Wyber                     Computer Services Centre,
b.wyber@csc.canterbury.ac.nz      University of Canterbury, New Zealand.

"Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: cnh@windom.stortek.com (Clark Hobbie-x7513)
Subject: wiz7: help with Master Xheng
Summary: What do you say to talk to Master Xheng?
Keywords: Wizardry 7, Xheng 
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:19:33 GMT

====> NOTE <=====
I am posting this for a friend.  Please send all replies to 

	Dave_Myers@stortek.com
=================

Help.  I appear to have forgotten something important.  I need to talk to
master Xen Xheng.  However, I don't know what I need to tell him so he will
actually speak with me.  BTW, I have collected the 5 flowers if that helps.

Please respond by email if possible since this news group has high enough
volume that finding the response might be a tad bit difficult.

thanks,
dave
Dave_Myers@stortek.com
From: d89-rbi@jaws.nada.kth.se (Ron Birk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: WING COMMANDER II - Problems
Date: 29 Dec 92 11:44:11 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden

Thanks for all help. No need for any more now.
The solution was the trace beam at the back turret in
the broadsword ship.
--
 Ron Birk         CS&CE at Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden.
 Krogarvagen 11   Projects: PlaySID (Amiga), FanGog (Mac), MonkeyBase (Unix)
 14552 Norsborg   E-Mail: d89-rbi@nada.kth.se     - Please, be happy! -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: FOR SALE : Wiz 7
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 00:49:56 GMT
Organization: DSIR, Palmerston North, New Zealand

In article <1992Dec30.065911.15847@netcon.smc.edu> pgeltner@netcon.smc.edu (Peter Geltner) writes:


>Interesting.....I found Ultima VII to be extremely boring and loved Wiz7.
>-- 

>Peter Geltner   Administrative Dean of Computing
>                Santa Monica College
>                Santa Monica, California 90405

I agree, ultima7 was a great technical achievement but if you like a game 
with a plot and a bit of mental challenge go for wiz7.

Dale Ogilvie