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From: felis@wucs1.wustl.edu (Felis Lynx)
Subject: Re: god(Lowercase Intended)
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:39:07 GMT

In article <6_lzccf@rpi.edu> battlec@cs.rpi.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.214318.159951@zeus.calpoly.edu>, molsen@zeus.calpoly.edu (Mark David Olsen) writes:
>|> In article <92272.032804SWR103@psuvm.psu.edu> Sean Rearick <SWR103@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>|> >Just like to make a comment.  I've been an athiest for the past 6 years.
>|> >While this may not interest anyone, the reason for my desicion is from
>|> >'The Vampire Lestat'.  Before reading it I hadn't really thought about god,
>|> >just sort of took it for granted.  However, the part in the book, when
>|> >Lestat realizes that there is no god, got me thinking.  I basicaly
>|> >decided that he was right.  Anyone else's life affected by the 'Vampire
>|> >Chronicles' this strongly?
>|> 
>|> I have to agree with what is said here.  I have been an athiest for a good
>|> number of years now and the 'Vampire Chronicles' only strengthened my
>|> beliefs.  'The Queen of the Damned' led me to beleive the reality of spirits
>|> (plus other events in my life have aided in this) but the Legend of the
>|> Twins definately helped.  It is one of the first 'histories' of early man
>|> that I feel makes sense.  Anyway, just wanted to throw my two bits in.
>|> 
>
>
>	This is FICTION people! Y`know...make-believe!  Are we that desperate
>	for truth that we resort to fairy tales as the basis for a belief 
>	system.  Might you start reciting the "litany against fear" and 
>	destroying computers after reading DUNE? These stories are meant to
>	entertain not profess truth.  The only reliabe source of truth is the
>	real world around us.  Fiction presents ideas, not answers.
>
>
>	

What's wrong with FICTION?  There's a work of fiction that a LARGE number of
people have been taking as the basis for their lives for many centuries now.
I'll agree, it's not that bad, and it does has some basis in fact.  But the
authors didn't seem to know when to quit.  They kept dragging out sequels in
order for people to keep following or just to make a buck.  Quite a bit like
the Dragonlance series, and I've seen how some people can react to the
Dragonlance series....  Coming back to the first point, what's wrong with
basing some of your life on fiction?  There are some very interesting ideas
buried in a lot of books.  Is there anything wrong with using these ideas or
mutating them into something they like better.  The whole world is based on
personal belief, and not necessarily on personal experience....

Felis Lynx


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From: ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny)
Subject: Re: Vampires/time travel
Keywords: possible
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:32:20 GMT

irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine) writes:

>>>All are as probable (or more so) than wormholes, black holes or time
>>>travel (which I happen to believe in also).  

>One question, if time travel can exist, then where are all the time travellerss
>from the future?

>(Maybe hanging out with the vampyres and Elvis, eh? :) :) :) )

Seriously, though.  If time travel were possible...wouldn't the time
travellers be going to the "best" time possible or "most significant"
time?  We'd be pretty conceited to say our time is the "best and most
significant".  
 
They could also be invisible to us (dimensional fluxuations).
 
OR...they don't even know we're here (most likely)...perhaps the future
of our human race doesn't include time-travel.  We die out before we
discover how.  Thus, the time travellers wouldn't even come here, and if
they did...they'd be aliens anyway!
 
Zowy!
...e



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From: magus@netcom.com (John Schmid)
Subject: Re: Warren Publications/ Vampirella
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 12:51:10 GMT
Organization: Hellwell Enterprises Ltd.

In article <ir50444@pro-amber.cts.com> rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randy Sopicki) writes:
>Did anyone ever get the rights to the Vampirella character?

Harris - a comics publisher has the rights to Vampi and some of the other Warren	 titles (at least Creepy as well).

	 They have issued (so far) either 2 or 3 Vampi collections of storylines	 from her magazine.

	 They are also publishing new stuff, so far a 4 issue limited series
	 with more planned.



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From: battlec@cs.rpi.edu (Clark Battle)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Iman
Date: 26 Sep 92 19:51:01 GMT

*Funny, I can't remember the name of the tribe, but I *just* read a book that
*mentions a tribe of fair skinned, fair haired, blue eyed Africans. No kidding.
*Anyone know the name of the tribe?

*Mike


There is a large tribe of them in South Africa, but nobody likes them.
From: tdlg9831@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tracey Dianne Layng)
Subject: Re: Whampyri....
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:47:04 GMT

Nothing earthshaking, but I read the Necroscope books too. I would highly
recommend them.

Tracey
UIUC
From: z_coolidgeas@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: re: Vampire comics
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:27:33 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

BLOOD, a tale was published by Epic Comics who are under Marvel.  It's very
surreal.  All artwork is done in watercolors.  It's very, very strange.

--Akane
From: lesher@coral.bucknell.edu (T. Lesher)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Anne Rice's New Book
Date: 6 Oct 1992 19:00:15 -0400
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: coral.bucknell.edu

In article <1asucdINNsp4@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> wxs@po.CWRU.Edu (W.charles Simciak) writes:
>
>I just read an interview with Anne Rice in a record review magazine, called
>"Review", I think, definitely started with a 'R', it was written

The magazine is "Reflex," and it's an alternative mag.  I too saw it,
but I haven't bought it yet.

		Tim Lesher, aka <lesher@bucknell.edu>

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From: esrag@warwick.ac.uk (Mr W M D Wright)
Subject: Whampyri....
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:13:00 GMT

Anyone out there read the 'Necroscope' books by Brian Lumley? Good alternative
vampire theories, and a damn good read. Wel, I liked them....

Bill


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From: ueh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Eric Hausgaard)
Subject: Re: Whampyri....
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 03:08:47 GMT

In article <aj8qbkcm@csv.warwick.ac.uk> esrag@warwick.ac.uk (Mr W M D Wright) writes:
>Anyone out there read the 'Necroscope' books by Brian Lumley? Good alternative
>vampire theories, and a damn good read. Wel, I liked them....
>
>Bill
>
>
 I happend to like them...Have you read any of his earlier stories...They are
very hard to read!!! 
Necroscope was very good...I'd like to read about the British E-Branches 
other stories...That should be good reading as well.
LLAP
Eric Hausgaard


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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:35:25 EDT
From: Michael D. Isenburg <MI7555A@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Killing your neighborhood vampire
 <is51195@pro-amber.cts.com> <1992Sep29.153007.9930@coe.montana.edu>
 <1992Oct1.162049.20141@gvl.unisys.com>

Recently a friend of mine and I saw real vampires.  We have been trying to find
 sources of information but have been unsuccessful.  Any info shared on backgro
und and ways to kill them would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks for your time a
nd help.  I'm sorry if I did not use proper etiquette I am new to the system an
d computers.



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From: sasha@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (David A. Tumarkin)
Subject: BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA Release Date
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:14:57 GMT

Francis Ford Coppola's DRACULA will be released on November 13 (a 
Friday).


                                        - Sasha
                                          "I do not drink ... wine."


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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 17:15:05 EDT
From: <JAL137@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Pronouncing Cuthulu

  (1) - This is alt.vampyres, not alt.nameless.ones...
  (2) - Koo-tool-hoo...
                       -Jonathan :)
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From: blave@netcom.com (David W. Blevins)
Subject: Re: Pale Blood, the flick from hell
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:59:52 GMT

I've been reading the rave reviews of Pale Blood with amazement - my
wife and I couldn't finish watching it.  Serious B movie material.

Innocent Blood was just OK.  Cool eye color animation and Don Rickles
actually makes a fair vampyre, especially when exposed to sunlight.

I'm waiting for the Copolla flick, myself.

Blave.
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From: sprackle@rel4.ncsa.uiuc.edu (David Spracklen)
Subject: Re: Vampire Victims Needed for TV Interview!
Organization: ncsa
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 02:44:56 GMT

In article <BvIBq1.2pp@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine) writes:
|> In article <fletch.718043897@camelot> fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie) writes:
|> >In <1992Oct2.070029.26307@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> tarrall@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Dead Queen) writes:
|> >
|> >>fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie) writes:
|> >
|> >>>>	Carol Page is the author of a book on modern vampires and victims
|> >>>>and even vampire hunters.  "Blood Lust -- Conversations with Real Vampires"
|> >>>>Through her bodyguard during the interviews for her book comes an offer to
|> >>>>be on TV.
|> >>>	Oh, come on!  Where do they find these people?  THERE ARE NO SUCH
|> >>>THINGS AS VAMPIRES!!!!  Get a clue!  It's okay for a fun fantasy, but let's
|> >>>try to keep things in perspective!  This woman is making some fast money
|> >>>off those people stupid enough to believe in such rubbish!
|> 
|> Perhaps the 'vampire' she is referring to are more mentally disturbed
|> people who vaguely fit the mythological description of vampire (usually
|> the thirst for blood).  I have not read the book, and until I get 
|> around to it (if at all) I will personally refrain from making snap
|> judgements about the author's motives.
|> 
|> An interesting note.  Porphyria (I think it is spelled that way), which
|> I am under the assumption is an inheirited disease, causes shrinking of
|> the gums, a reduced ability to metabolize protiens(sp?), pain and/or
|> extreme burning when exposed to sunlight, and madness.  It was a fairly
|> common syndrome in inbred royalties (but is not unheard of in commoners),
|> and has been postulated that Porphyriacs were mistaken to be 
|> mythological vampires.  
|> 
|> Any Comments?
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> Brent L. Irvine					"Dyslexics of the World
|> irvine@decwa.ece.uiuc.edu			UNTIE!"		- Kral Maxr
|> 

Hmmm. Maybe I should have deleted stuff to save bandwidth.
I too would personally guess that porphyria is what they were talking about.
Traditional vampires (IMO) are fiction, marvelous fiction but fiction
none the less. I have always found it an interesting activity to tie legends
to reality; finding the source of a legend can sometimes provide fact that
is stranger than fiction.

On a lighter note, even I have sun problems. Any length of time in the sun
causes my skin to break out in a rash (Lysine, an amino acid aiding tissue
regeneration, helps treat it). My canine teeth are elongated enough that
I leave two puncture marks in items I bite (pop cans for instance -- Hey!
you're supposed to do stupid things in college!) :)

Dave

P.S.  I'd subscribe to an alt.werewolf group if there was one. Count me in.
From: v125p7c5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Michael Lamanna)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampire Victims Needed for TV Interview!
Keywords: possible
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:23:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>>
>>>It's not possible to hallucinate the transformation to bat or wolf?
>>
>>	It is possible to hallucinate anything.  There is also a name 
>>for the condition where people's facial features will actually change 
>>to resemble a wolf.  There are no recorded cases of people that change 
>>to resemble bats.
> 
>The disease is Lupus, and it is a debilitating disease weakening the
>person to the point where they cannot even walk across a room without
>utter exhaustion.  And the features changing to look like a wolf - it
>only does if you look with an eye of faith.
> 
>BTW - It is a fatal disease and incurable (can go into remission).

	I know what Lupus is but, that isn't the name that I was
looking for.  There is a disease in which people's faces not entire bodies
will start to look wolfish.  

>>>It's not possible to have an extremely slowly aging physical body?
>>
>>	It is possible and is called longevity.  It is believed to be 
>>a generic type of trait.
> 
>Do you mean genetic or does generic mean common or mundane type trait?

  	I was close and spell check doesn't catch grammar errors.  Sorry.
The word should be genetic.  

	"Missed it by -->|   |<-- that much."
					-Maxwell Smart agent 86

>>>All are as probable (or more so) than wormholes, black holes or time
>>>travel (which I happen to believe in also).  
> 
>One question, if time travel can exist, then where are all the time travellerss
>from the future?
> 
>(Maybe hanging out with the vampyres and Elvis, eh? :) :) :) )
> 

	I don't know if you are talking to me about this, but in my 
follow up to the original article I said that I denied the existence of
them.  So no time travel is not possible and black and worm holes do not 
exist.  
	Even if Black holes to exist then you would have to prove the 
existence of white holes.  (Matter, Time and Mass are thrown back into the 
universe)

>>
>-- 
>Brent L. Irvine					"Dyslexics of the World
>irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu			UNTIE!"		- Kral Mrax


						Michael Lamanna
					     University At Buffalo
					       Civil Engineering

	"It is easier to get forgiven than permission."


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From: lsheehan@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: A different explanation..
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:29:13 GMT

	Okay.. here we go.  In Chapter 1 of Genesis, God creates man and woman,
then rests.  Then in Chapter 2, He creates Eve.  Hmmmm.  The modern
interpretation (which does not include Lillith.. and this is a Jewish
interpretation, not a Christian one) is that Chap. 2 is a "flashback" to
chapter 1 in which God created man and woman.  That's the *major* modern
interpretation.  (Also, in Christian tale, Lillith is supposedly the mother of
Leviathan)
	So that's where Lillith comes from.  There are other interpretations
that I can post later if y'all are still confused... sorry I wasn't as clear in
my original posting.  =)

						lisa
						lsheehan@hamp.hampshire.edu

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From: dmorgan@emunix.emich.edu (Faceman)
Subject: Re: Whampyri....
Organization: Detroit Institute of Criminal Arts and Sciences
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:43:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.192609.25206@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> jarnolde@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (John Arnolde) writes:
>In article <aj8qbkcm@csv.warwick.ac.uk> esrag@warwick.ac.uk (Mr W M D Wright) writes:
>>Anyone out there read the 'Necroscope' books by Brian Lumley? Good alternative
>>vampire theories, and a damn good read. Wel, I liked them....
>>
>I have read and liked a lot these books. I Have a question though, is 
>Deadspawn the last in the series? I hope not, I've come to like Harry Keogh
>and don't want to give him up. But, where can they go from the ending of
>this book???
>

I have read and re read all the books...and rumor has it, that after the 
psychomech trilogy he planns to write another book.

I really like the way he explains the history and origins of vamipres...



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From: tarrall@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Dead Queen)
Subject: Re: Vampire Victims Needed for TV Interview!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 07:00:29 GMT

fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie) writes:

>In <1adc1jINNjo1@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn) writes:


>>	Carol Page is the author of a book on modern vampires and victims
>>and even vampire hunters.  "Blood Lust -- Conversations with Real Vampires"
>>Through her bodyguard during the interviews for her book comes an offer to
>>be on TV.


>	Oh, come on!  Where do they find these people?  THERE ARE NO SUCH
>THINGS AS VAMPIRES!!!!  Get a clue!  It's okay for a fun fantasy, but let's
>try to keep things in perspective!  This woman is making some fast money
>off those people stupid enough to believe in such rubbish!
>--
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>fletch@camelot.bradley.edu - Alan S. "I'm majoring in Superheroism" Lurie, Esq.
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>	"No time for the ol' in-out now luv.  I'm just here to read 
>	 the meter."
>			-- Alex, A CLOCKWORK ORANGE


How can you be so sure?  Just because in your limited experience you
have never run across a vampyre, you make their existance a certain 
impossibility (sp?).  Allow yourself a moment to escape from the tiny
and provincial outlook to which you so strongly subscribe and realize
that many things which you have never run across do indeed exist.

Perhaps you are not psychologically equipped to understand that 
many things that you think are impossibilities are realities for
other human beings, perhaps you do not even notice other human
beings in your daily closed minded life exercise(exorcise).
Extricate a bit of open-minded reasoning from your dim-wit provinciality,
and maybe then I will listen.

Best of all, STOP being such a CLOCKWORK ORANGE, the universe is
pretty big, don't assume you already have it all figured out.

-DQ
--In grammar school the teacher couldn't get me to care about 
spelling like other people spell, so, I now spell the way I spell.
Pardon my mistakes in spelling don't pardon my words unless you want
.




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From: st1qz@rosie.uh.edu (Williams, Aaron M.)
Subject: Re: Anne Rice in Comic Books
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 04:25:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.183045.4385@athena.mit.edu>, nbrao@athena.mit.edu (?????) writes...
>In article <cNHNRB2w165w@cyberden.uucp>, moon!cyberden!justice@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>|> They are doing an Anne Rice comic book adaptation. Anyone hear about it? 
>|> I think that it's based on her first book.
>|> 
>|> __________________________________________________________________________
>|>    |       /         |\
>|>    | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N       [ moon!cyberden!justice@well.sf.ca.us ]
> 
>I saw The Vampire Lestat in comic book type form.  Just like a comic book only
>thicker and bound.  Is that what you mean?
> 
>Nhan

   First the Lestat comic book type thing is called a graphic novel.
   Yes, there is a Anne Rice comic series. so far the ones I have (and seen ... 
same thing) are :       

                 Interview with a Vampire (1-4 out of 12)
                 The Vampire Lestat (all 12 out, 1st and 2nd printing)
                 Queen of the Damned (2 out of 12 published)
                 The Vampire Companions (3 or 4 have been published so far)
  all published by Innovation.

     Also ...

                The Mummy (Ramses the Damned) (11 or 12 out of 12 )
   I'm not sure who publishes these ... I don't like the artwork so I don't have it

Nite.
       this is no sig.
From: ueh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Eric Hausgaard)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Coppola's Dracula
Date: 3 Oct 92 20:57:13 GMT
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology

>
>Oh, JOY! :-(

>David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - CTHULHU in '92! Why vote for LESSER evils?
>For Kate is a jealous God, and requires sacrifice./What was your question?--K
>"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
>dhenry@plains.nodak.edu * ud137927@ndsuvm1.bitnet * ud137927@vm1.nodak.edu

How do you Pronounce "CTHULHU"???


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