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From: djg@phoenix.genrad.com (Deborah J. Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: LOV JACK'S DEATH
Date: 11 Nov 1992 09:14:56 -0500
Organization: GenRad, Inc.
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In article <92316.004914FGBCC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <FGBCC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>Ciao Soapsters
>
>Anybody under the opinion that Jack is still alive, and that evil ol Clay
>might have had an (under) hand in Jack's alleged demise?  Lately I have been
>thinking that Jack has been abducted and held somewhere by the Clayster
>to get the Alden blue ribbon stock.  Anyone thinking along these lines?
>
>Just wondering if I lost my mind, anyone in the same mental state?

Remember Soap Opera Rule #(what number is it?) - No Body? No death.

Clay may have seen the badly decomposed body, but we know his
intentions are not pure and unselfish. I wouldn't trust him to tell me
what the weather was like outside.

But, I think Clay being behind this is too pat. I have a feeling it's
Leo. Remember, her wants the AE stock, too, and he's the one buying it
all up. If Stacey is declared insane, does the stock go on the open
market? I would think that Clay would woe her, not turn her into a
vegtable. (And I think Clay is on his way to woeing her, so why would
he try to drive her crazy?)

If Leo is not holding Jack, then Clay is. But, again, the
Clay-as-suspect is the ordinary way to go. I want something different
from my soap - Leo is the one.

On another note, can we start a discussion on how to get the writers
to acknowledge the existance of rec.arts.tv.soaps (you know, I want to
reuse a story line from the AMC posters, hey, if the writers can do
it, I figured we can do it, too).

So, what would you like to see the writers do that would convince you
that they read this group?

I'd like to see a computer programmer at Alden Enterprises that is a
female named Deborah (I'd settle for Deb, Debbie, or even better, deb
with no capitals...that couldn't be anything but evidence). She could
be on the computer, reading news. She doesn't even have to talk. Just
get a makeup person or stray off the street and have someone tell her
it's lunch or something. Or have name tags on the offices and have
someone walk by...but I wouldn't know since I only listen to the
show...but I'm sure someone will tell me if that happens.  I'd love to
see the inner workings of AE - all we ever see is the CEOs office and
other higher-ups.

What would you like?

deb
(djg@genrad.com)
From: djg@phoenix.genrad.com (Deborah J. Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: LOV:  Update - WED 04 NOV & AMC crossoverings...
Date: 12 Nov 1992 08:53:06 -0500
Organization: GenRad, Inc.
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In article <1992Nov11.123310.48021@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.154657.16905@athena.mit.edu>, zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Caroly
>n Zaccaria) writes:

>>i bet he will be traveling back and forth. I still think he is going
>>to "mess around" with someone in Corinth in the not too far future
>>(Trisha??), since I think his marriage to Ceara will for one reason
>>or another go sour. See i know some stuff about Loving. Also, Carter
>I woldn't bet on Trisha seeing as she and the Truckster are passionate once
>more.  But the writers have been known to do stranger things.  I'd bet on
>Stacy (if she doesn't convince herself she's crazy) or Shana (she's due for a
>hot romance.)

You missed the obvious - Dinah Lee. We knows he cares for her...and
he's rescuesd her...the only thing left is for him to fall in love. I
think she's half way there.

deb
(djg@genrad.com)
From: covi@brooks.ics.uci.edu (Lisa Martina Covi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC: More about Tad
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:56:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.

I had to emerge from lurker status to add a bit to Tad's story:

When Tad was an unhappy teenager (I think he was jealous because all
Ruth's attention was going to new-born Joey), he was turned onto pot
by Carrie Saunders.  Carrie was the daughter of Carl "wife-beater"
Saunders and step child of Leora Saunders who had an affair with
>gasp< Joe Martin when he was treating her for her injuries. Carrie
later married Chuck Tyler and moved off the show around the time of
his fling with Donna (they had divorced for the first time) when she
was married to Palmer (which resulted in Palmer Jr who died in the
nightclub fire). Tad's drug involvment led to his exit from the show
when he went west and supposedly was a prostitute or something. We
found this out later when Robin ??? from Tad's past blew into town.
Robin was the brother of Wade Matthews who got Phoebe to divorce
Langley and tried to steal all her money. Robin married Matt and left
the show (Matt was one of Nina's exhusbands).

At some point when Tad was still "pseudo sleazy," he got involved with
Dottie Thorton, the low-self-esteem teenage daughter of Edna Thorton (used
to be married to Bennie before Estelle).  Edna paid Tad to date her, Dottie
faked being pregnant, Tad married her, Dottie fessed up, they parted
and later they became a Nick/Nora pair as friends (in NYC?) for a
while. I think that was Tad's first marriage.

Then there was Hillary.  She was the real-life neice or daughter of
Langley.  Hillary was Tad's "first love."  They were both at PVU and
played Romeo and Juliet in a play.  Tad's "best friend" Bob broke them
up by faking cancer to get Hillary's sympathy, she found out, they
split, Tad and she got married (Tad's second marriage), Tad was too
unsettled for her, they divorced then Hillary moved away with Donna's
brother Mitch.

Ever since Michael Knight has been Tad, Tad has been a central part of
the main story lines.

Please feel free to correct or add in to the story.
Lisa
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC TAN:  Weight comments
From: mitch@cdthq.UUCP (Mitch Harris)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 04:14:59 CST
Organization: Garys' Home for Obsolete Computers

dwv@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Dave Vollman) writes:

> In article <1992Nov11.180931.16010@oz.plymouth.edu> patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (
> >>>      Does it seem like Dim is developing a spare tire? sure looked
> >>>      like it when he was dancing with E.
> >>
> >>I'd describe it as a Captain Kirk paunch.  Now Jack is getting
> >>to be a portly..
> >
> >Okay, guys, I've kept my mouth shut on this one so long, my tongue is
> >bloody.
> >
> >Do we *HAVE* to buy into the popular notion that people can only be
> >attractive if they're thin????  It wasn't so long ago that we had a
> >discussion about Trevor being a really sexy guy despite his not
> >meeting the Madison Avenue advertising cabal ideal of masculine
> >beauty.  All of a sudden AMC puts Dimitri in tight pants -- something
> >I've seen more than one ratser *plead* for on this news group -- and
> >we get a rash of people who are complaining left and right because he
> >doesn't have an ironing-board-flat stomach!
> 
> It didn't come out as I intended it. The point that I was trying to make was
> the costume on Dim was not flattering, and I'm sure they could have come up
> with something better. Anyway, I did screw up and Pat is correct in point 
> this out. Thanks Pat!
> 
> >I don't have to tell you (but I will anyway) that the average person
> >does not look like a model; but somehow we've become conditioned to
> >view what is statistically an abnormal body type as the standard of
> >beauty!  Is this self-defeating, or what?
> 
> Very true! Another sad thing on this is just looking at Liz Vassey's
> latest jobs. Given what her upper body looks like now versus what
> she looked like on AMC, I would GUESS she has had some cosemetic surgury
> in that area. Assuming my guess is
> correct, It's sad to me to think that 1) she felt she needed to
> do something like that to boost her career and 2) now that she has
> done it, she is getting prime time parts. 
> 
> 
> >Embrace diversity.  It'll embrace you right back, and DAMN!  It feels
> >good!
> 
> 
Lord, am I the only one who remebers Liz Vassey having big hooters? She was 
always wearing these little short T-shirts which hung about 6 inches from 
her abdomen since her hooters poked out so far. (Maybe because I was once 
young & built like her is why I noticed....sigh).
.........Beverly H.

> 
> -- 
> 				| Dave Vollman (HASA "S" Division)
>   If I have a choice for the	| AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, IL
>   next life, trained seal is 	| Email: dwv@ihlpm.att.com
>   looking damn good!		| AT&T would never let ME speak for THEM!
From: jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jennifer Allyson Turner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GH's opening title sequence
Date: 7 Nov 92 16:00:58 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Terrence said:

>I read in SOW that GH is going to probably change its opening titles in 
>April!  Anyone out there sick of that awful theme music?  Any ideas of what 
>type of opening should be used?  For example...the trendy AMC style with 
>cast photos...or the melodramatic OLTL opening?  Or maybe the upscale AW 
>opening?  Any ideas?  Should they just update the theme music or trash it?
 
YES!!  YES!!!!  YES!!!!!!  I don't care what they do as long as they get
rid of that opening sequence!!!  I think General Hospital should figure
in there somewhere, but other than that, I don't care.  As for the theme
music, TRASH IT!!  It sounds like whatever it's on (eight track,
perhaps?) is gonna wear out any second.

Jenn
From: mike@scbked.larc.nasa.gov (Michael S warner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: ATWT: Phonemate Redux
Date: 12 Nov 1992 22:16:40 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
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Keywords: Number, pleeeuzzz...

In article <12NOV199207180812@ducvax.auburn.edu> slowther@ducvax.auburn.edu (Sam Lowther) writes:
>Some more answering machine quickies:
>
[deleted in favor of these lovely greater than signs ]
>
>
>--Sam

And they just keep on coming:

Nancy "Gram" Hughes:  "I'm sorry, dear, but
(what doesn that cue card say? oh, yeah,)
I can't...come ...to ...the...phone...right...now.  And neither can (oh,
what's his name again -- you know, my husband -- oh yeah, Mac) Mac.  We'll
get...back...to...you...as...soon..as...I...memorize...my...one...line..of
dialogue.  Oh, forget it, I'll just read the card as always.  BEEP!

Sorry to be bitter, but the woman forgot how to act a long time ago.

Ambrose:  "Oh, Lucinda, I know it's you.  For Heaven's Sake, why 
can't you call at a reasonable hour of the night.
Oh, as long as you're listening why don't you be nice to Holden
like I've been recommending for the last 8 years.  BEEP"

EtTuMike

P.S. Special K -- get back here with my keys to physical therapy!

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From: zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria)
Subject: Re: LOV:  Update - WED 04 NOV & AMC crossoverings...
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:46:57 GMT

In article <1dls8vINN18e@phoenix.genrad.com> djg@phoenix.genrad.com (Deborah J. Graham) writes:

>Is it okay if I keep you on the list? I won't give up on you so soon.
>Just say you'll keep in touch and you can stay on the list.

Absolutely, Deb! Thanks. I just saw where Jeremy told Trevor and Nat II
that he is moving to Corinth to be a Prof. at Alden University. He
talked about Ceara! (see he didn't forget she existed, at least not
yet...:-)). He "discussed it with Ceara" and she is fine with it. He
said he will visit Pine Valley, "it's not far", and he will keep his
Gallery in P.V. (I bet Stuart will be in charge - more air time!) so
i bet he will be traveling back and forth. I still think he is going
to "mess around" with someone in Corinth in the not too far future 
(Trisha??), since I think his marriage to Ceara will for one reason
or another go sour. See i know some stuff about Loving. Also, Carter
has been taken away out of P.V. (Galen finally provoked him enough,
by saying he was a really bad lover :-)) to jail. Since he was like
comatose they couldn't bring him to trial but he's out of it now, so
i guess they can. I don't know a) if he's gone from PV (will they have
his trial there), or b) if he's going back to Corinth or c) if he's
just written out of both for now. Whatever, I see an option to have
him back, since he's not dead :-); i actually for some crazy reason
felt sorry for him when he had his "last words" with Nat II....I guess
the actor himself is likable enough.
>
>Besides, we need all the help we can get to get LOVING out of a tie
>for last place (and I don't mean to get it all by itself for last
>place :-)).
>deb

I would love to see Loving out of "a tie" for last place! I will be
rooting for you! I think having Jean LeClerc there might possibly 
help!

Bye for now, Deb! And all you Loving fans! 

CAZ
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: teresak@IMD.Sterling.COM (TK)
Subject: AW: Ryan and ???
Organization: Sterling Software
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:26:04 GMT
X-Md4-Signature: 594f8d87a19a792db7d529628ac45abf

          Hello All,

          All this talk about who Ryan should and shouldn't be
          paired up with, and no one has thought of Ryan and 
          Lorna!  The Angel (Ryan) and the Bad Girl!  

          With the way Kevin has been treating her, and all the
          writers doing with her is leaving her whining, this
          would be a great pair!  She has all the spunk of the old
          Vicki, and they would be great on adventures/spy missions
          together!  Besides, they have a common factor...  Carl!

          Along that note, has anyone else heard the rumor about
          Charles Keating doing a one day stint on AW in the near
          future?  I thought I read about it in in Soap Opera Weekly
          not too long ago.

            
-- 
                                    
                                            TK
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed.
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: donna@niwot.scd.ucar.edu (Donna Barday)
Subject: ATWT: Re:11-3 TuesdayUpdate from BaByDoll
Organization: Scientific Computing Divison/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:50:25 GMT

In article: <9211042339.AA06427@oracle.us.oracle.com> "BaByDoLL writes via Jeep" <jmeranda@us.oracle.com>:

Lots of good stuff deleted.....

>Hold'em or Had'one (a brain) learns that AnGel and he were once married
	   ^^^^^^^
Babydoll, I just love this nickname for Hold'em!


>to each other.  He invites her to breakfast at the Mustang because
>Chilly is at a sleepover at Juicy's.  Incidentally, while
>Chilly is there she receives a blimp of roses from ... yep, Scooter.
>Back to the Mustang, Had'one goes for a walk around the lower forty
>with Marshland ... Chilly arrives, all pumped up to see Had'one ...
      ^^^^^^^^^
I also like this one too!  I've been calling her Spagettio - since she is
Italian and a very plastic character - just like the taste of Spagettios.


>She overhears him tell Marshland that when Marshland leaves in the
>a.m. he wants to go back to NYC with her ... Chilly is plain hurt.

more stuff deleted...

>ciao,
>
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Great nicknames Babydoll!

Donna

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From: tac@moe.SanDiego.NCR.COM (C. Corvin)
Subject: Re: ATWT/Y&R
Reply-To: tac@moe.SanDiego.NCR.COM (C. Corvin)
Organization: NCR Corp. E & M San Diego
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 00:48:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.151420.6535@news.stolaf.edu> kriesel@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Julie R Kriesel) writes:
>
>NEW MEN!!!!  (I can't wait to see Terry Lester.)

I second this! I've missed him since he left Y&R.  When I was in France, I
watched Y&R, and since they are about two years behind, I got to see both 
Terry and Eileen Davidson.  AHH, the good old days.  Terry was pretty neat
speaking French too!

Ti Ti

>
>
>Ah, I feel *much* better now.  
>
>Special K
>
>


*******************************************************************
Tina Corvin
tac@sun4.SanDiego.NCR.COM
From: jm5p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Judi Mancuso)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GL: Trivia #6
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:22:52 GMT
Organization: Student Employment Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

> 
>Here is the 6th set of trivia questions...
> 
> 
>1) What is the major event in Springfield every July 4th?

The Bauer BBQ
> 
> 
>2) What was the name of Johnny Bauer's talk show on WSPR?
The Johnny Bauer Show?  (I can't recall)
> 
> 
>3) Who are the four musketeers?
Phillip, Mindy, Beth, Rick
> 
> 
>4) What is the four musketeer's favorite toast (or quote)?

One for all and all for one? (I am not sure!)> 
> 
>5) Who turned Eleni in to the immigration officials?
Blake


> 
> 
>6) Where did Frank and Harley's father die?
Supposedly, Vietnam
> 
> 
>7) With whom did Mark Evans have an affair while married to Jennifer
>   Richards?
Amanda Wexler (Jennifer's daughter)
> 
> 
>8) Who are Alan Michael's parents?
Alan Spaulding and Hop Bauer
> 
> 
>9) Can Holly possibly be any more of a bitch?
Yes.
> 
> 
>10) Can Ed Bauer possibly keep his pants zipped?
No.
 
 
 
Enjoy,
Sheila M.
Organization: Office of the Dean - CFA, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: 22302LMK@MSU
Subject: SB: Way to go Lilly!!!!!!!
Organization: Michigan State University
Date: 6 Nov 1992 09:43:31 EST

Hurray for Lilly, giving C.C. a piece of her mind. I am so glad that Lilly
told C.C. what she really felt and didn't back down from him. I think C.C. was
even impressed by her.
Watching Lilly yesterday sort of reminded me of Gina.

lisa


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From: mjheal@bnr.ca (MJ Heal)
Subject: Re: DOOL: In Defense of Carly
Reply-To: mjheal@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR, Ottawa, ON, Canada
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 13:11:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.214544.16254@88opensi.88open.ORG>, reddy@88opensi.88open.ORG (Wasavika Reddy) writes:
 
|>   Also (Hi MJ) I need to clarify this: I'm just defending her - doesn't
|>   necessarily mean I like her. It just means I don't really dislike her.
|>   With everyone hammering away on her (like she's the cause of all evil
|>   in the world) I thought I should say a few words.

	Hey,  don't know who this got into the above (deleted)
	conversation.  But, HI Wasavika!

	Back to this rape issue.  I guess the reason I don't particulary
	like the Carly / Lawrence stuff is because they (TPTB) are choosing
	to ignore the rape issue.  At least with Jack they dealt with it.
	But not just a one shot deal, it was something that kept coming up,
	over and over again.  I don't doubt that Lawrence can change.  But
	I would like to see this change.  Not a complete turn around.  I
	would like to see him evolve.  And I think TPTB are ignoring
	another important storyline.  For Jack,  this was a huge part of
	his character, dealing with the rape.  

	I guess we could go on and on about Carly.  But it really is TPTB
	that make the decisions.  No matter who the suggestions come from.

	Just my two cents.

|>   Wasavika

	MJ Limer

-- 
MJ Heal        *        BNR,Ottawa,ON,Canada        *        mjheal@bnr.ca
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Being married to Jack Deveraux is like cuddling up with Chuckles the Clown
              and a depressed pit bull at the same time.
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         OK Blue Jays!      OK Blue Jays!     Lets Play Ball!
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From: connie@uga.edu (Connie M. Doss)
Subject: Re: AW
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:32:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.230335.8197@samba.oit.unc.edu> Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan) writes:
>Who sings the song at the shows beginning?
>
>--
>   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
>     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
>        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
>           internet:  laUNChpad.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80

It is Crystal Gail and some guy.  They were on the show and sung that
song at tops.  That's was when the killer was on the prowl a few years
ago.
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Subject: testing
From: sscalia@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 11 Nov 92 11:41:38 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

testing
From: djg@phoenix.genrad.com (Deborah J. Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: LOV:  Update - WED 04 NOV & AMC crossoverings...
Date: 9 Nov 1992 09:23:27 -0500
Organization: GenRad, Inc.
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: phoenix.genrad.com

In article <1992Nov6.174308.3765@athena.mit.edu> zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria) writes:

>To Debbie from Genrad, thanks for the support to get me over to Loving!
>At this time, I don't think i can handle it. But i will keep it in
>mind. I taped it one day but have such a hard time keeping up with
>AMC, that would be another 2 1/2 hours more of watching, then there
>is the discussion! I will try and keep it in mind tho, promise!

Is it okay if I keep you on the list? I won't give up on you so soon.
Just say you'll keep in touch and you can stay on the list.

Besides, we need all the help we can get to get LOVING out of a tie
for last place (and I don't mean to get it all by itself for last
place :-)).

deb
(djg@genrad.com)
From: godschmf@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SIS: who's the oldest?
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:13:41 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

I'm pretty sure that Georgie is the oldest--that's why she's always taking care
of everyone.  Frankie is the youngest.  I don't know if Alex or Teddy is older. 

Hope this helped!
mary
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From: holst@mrl.arc.nasa.gov (Laura Holst)
Subject: AMC: Spoiler from SOM: Helga
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date:  6 Nov 1992 14:27 PST  

Armed and Dangerous with Soap Opera Magazine, reprinted with
MY permission :) 


GOING HUNGARY

When Susan Willis (HELGA) took on the role as DIMITRI MARICK'S
(Michael Nader) housekeeper, she never dreamed she'd one day be
filming her scenes in Budapest!  "It was a fascinating and
beautiful city.  On one of my days off, I went sightseeing and
took a 75-minute boat ride up and down the Danube.  The food was
great, but I tried not to eat to much," she laughs.  She needn't
have worried; her action-packed scenes were enough to work off
any extra pounds.  "While taping one scene, the French camera
crew chased me with a Minicam as I ran all over the battlements,"
reports Willis.  The exciting episodes are scheduled to air early
this month.  "I think you'll see some awfully good footage,"
predicts Susan.

Can you image Helga running "all over the battlements"?  This should
be pretty funny :)

--- Laura Holst
    holst@merlin.arc.nasa.gov
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