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From: jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim)
Subject: Re: Re: DJ for President -- 2
Reply-To: jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:36:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.164039.13721@sbcs.sunysb.edu> swkim@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu () writes:
>hnkst2+@pitt.edu (Hanhwe N Kim) writes:
>
>>usenet@sbcs.sunysb.edu (Usenet poster) writes:
>>>of them and let him do great jobs for my country.  Please don't post the 
>
>>I'd be alot more interested in the elections if they allowed absentee
>>ballots for students studying abroad. Just my 2 cents worth of nit
>>picking and complaining but do you remember DJ's position on tax
>>reform(kum-yung-sil-myung-je) several years ago when people were
>>pushing for it and before YS Kim joined Roh? Correct me if I'm wrong, 
>
>>-Han Kim
>
>
>I am also sick and tired that everybody tries to just find fault with
>the other's remark. (to hang down while holding the tale of horse.)

Boy, talking about the paranoid reaction.

I am also sick and tired of someone who does not check his fact before
posting, ignores other's attempt to find out the fact and just whine about
instead of admitting it, defending it, or even ignoring it.

>I need positive, progressive, and aggressive suggestion.

Or another DJ supporting statements?

You own your post, but you don't own its follow-up.

Andy Kim
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: swkim@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu ()
Subject: Re: Re: DJ for President -- 2
Originator: swkim@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:40:39 GMT

hnkst2+@pitt.edu (Hanhwe N Kim) writes:

>usenet@sbcs.sunysb.edu (Usenet poster) writes:
>>of them and let him do great jobs for my country.  Please don't post the 

>I'd be alot more interested in the elections if they allowed absentee
>ballots for students studying abroad. Just my 2 cents worth of nit
>picking and complaining but do you remember DJ's position on tax
>reform(kum-yung-sil-myung-je) several years ago when people were
>pushing for it and before YS Kim joined Roh? Correct me if I'm wrong, 

>-Han Kim


I am also sick and tired that everybody tries to just find fault with
the other's remark. (to hang down while holding the tale of horse.)
I need positive, progressive, and aggressive suggestion.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim)
Subject: Hangul Keyboard Layout
Reply-To: jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:05:27 GMT


Does anyone have a Hangul Keyboard Layout on-line in a printable format?

Or where I can get it?

Thanks a lot.

Andy Kim
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.china
From: shin@krusty.ee.udel.edu (Jeong-Gyun Shin)
Subject: Re: questions of the Korean War
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:58:06 GMT

In article <BzDuMo.IMy@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>I am surprised to see Korean's anti-China attitude, and indiscriminatedly
>accept anything from West. You guys probably have more stake on China than
>any other nation, including U.S.

Anti-China?  Indiscriminated acceptance of anything from West?  ???  I am
sure there is no eye-to-eye communication here, or, someone is badly in
need of language lessen (morphologically speaking).
From: mj03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MINHO JO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: CURRENT IOWA KOREAN PRESIDENT ELECTION STOCK?
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:37:43 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


Dear Friends:

    If anyone has the information about the current Iowa stock market
prices for the Korean presidential elction,  please post it.

We are hungry like a wolfe for the dramatic and unexpected changes
in the Korean presidential elction.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: 7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca (Henry E Chon)
Subject: Re: Dear Abby, II
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 16:52:18 GMT

In article <ByvEq5.BF1@cs.uiuc.edu>, ywlee@cs.uiuc.edu (Youngwhan Lee) writes:
> In <1992Dec5.044842.27606@news.acns.nwu.edu> andrew@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Andrew Sung Hyun Kim) writes:
> 
>>You do not need to vote if you are humor impaired....
> 
> Sorry to interrupt your fun, Andy.
> I don't think joking when someone is in trouble is funny. Henry needs 
> help! (I guess I'm humor impaired. ;-)
> 
> Well, since not many people seriously advise Henry, I guess I'll do 
> it as an expert in this field. :-)
> 
> Dear Troubled Soul, 
> 
> The only option appear to remain for you is just to forget this girl. 
> Do not call her. Do not ask her to go out with you. If she calls you, 
> just say hi. Do not say more than that. If she wants to go out with you, 
> politely say you are very busy. (You go out with her only after she finds 
> you are the man for her.)
> 
> I know you may want to have her close to you as a friend. But forget about 
> it. Keeping her close to you as a friend will only hurt your wound. 
> There's not much room left for you and this girl to be friends as 
> before. 
> 
> If your girl was in love with you but she was not aware of it, I'm 
> certain she will come back to you very soon. If she does not think you 
> are the man for her, trying to get close to her will only make her go away. 
> 
> When you cool down from this fever, you will find another girl just for
> you. (Believe me!) 
> 
> 
> youngwhan.
> -- 
> ywlee@uiuc.edu, ywlee@cs.uiuc.edu           | University of Illinois
> 2004 S. Wright St. Urbana, IL. 61801	    | Computer Science
> Voice: (217) 244-7144, Fax: (217) 244-7757  |
> Yes, I believe in science, but nothing else.| Innosys Computing, Inc.
-- 

Thanks youngwhan.

I was away for a week in Toronto taking care of some things and I haven't
given this girl much thought.  Instead, I was busy chatting with my Ex.  It
is nice to know that I can always get some comforting advice from her.

Anyhow, I just thought I'd let you guys know I have taken a step forward.



***************************************************************************
  

Henry E Chon
7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca
hechon@uwovax.uwo.ca
University of Western Ontario, London, Canada

"Do not worry about your problems in Mathematics, I can assure you mine are
 still greater."  A. Einstein
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: kim_nl@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Nina L Kim)
Subject: Re: Rapping on Korean pop/rock
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:54:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.191334.12426@tc.cornell.edu> jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung) writes:

>And finally, let's go and kill all the lyricists.  I like listening
>to songs with more artistic and poetic lyrics, like Peter Gabriel,
>old Genesis and Rush. 

Yes, no band has soul like Grateful Dead.
(God bless Jerry)

>Brian "stressed out" Chung

Nina Kim
From: ahwg@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Andrew Hwang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Monthly Pop Song (Re: Rush)
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:54:32 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.korean
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Dec16.035814.11654@news.columbia.edu> jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim) writes:

>PS. Whatever happened to Rush, BTW?  Are they still performing?  I haven't
>    heard them in ages.  I think the last one I bought was "Moving
>    Pictures".  Whoa...That's almost 10 years ago...

Although they may not enjoy the FM popularity they did with "Moving Pictures,"
Rush is very much active and performing. Since then, they released:

	"Signals", "Grace Under Pressure", "Power Windows",
	"Hold Your Fire", "A Show of Hands" (live), "Presto",
	"Chronicles" (greatest hits), and "Roll the Bones"

Their music has become more "difficult," per se. You won't find many catch 
tunes you did in "Moving Pictures."

Andrew Hwang
ahwg@troi.cc.rochester.edu
From: shin-jungshik@yale.edu (Jungshik Shin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: How do you read Hangul on PC-msdos? (HELP!)
Date: 13 Dec 1992 01:14:29 -0500
Organization: Yale University
NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu

In article <1992Dec12.152532.7344@eng.umd.edu> dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim) writes:
>In article <Dec.11.19.33.22.1992.18925@gandalf.rutgers.edu> junglee@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Jung S. Lee) writes:
>>
>>I have a IBM PS/2 at work connected to Novell Netware running TCP/IP. I use
>>CUTCP telnet to connect to Internet. Can I still use iyagi to view
>>hangul? Or do I need some other emulation software? 
>
>	I don't think IYAGI supports TCP/IP.
>
>	I'm pretty novice on PC; but I think the best way for your case
>	might be getting HANGUL WINDOWS 3.01 (don't trust me too much
>	on this, this is just an opinion and please do research on this
>	beforehand, since you have to pary some money for this).
>
>	Also, I'm not quite sure how the telnet for PC works;
>	in UNIX, it normally inherits the your terminal behaivor;
>	but you have to make sure your telnet does not strip off
>	MSB.

   Neither am I sure of what I'm gonna say.  If OS you use at PS/2 is
MS-DOS(if it's OS/2, I have no idea if  it works. Why don't you try?)
, you may be able to use S/W hangul like 'Dansi' with VGA card and
'Dokkebi'(DKBI)  with Hercules card( I don't know whether DKBI works with 
Hercules emulation  mode of VGA card). In case you use  DKBI, you
have to filter your 'telnet' or 'rlogin' to Korean BBS with 'hcode -ks' to
convert incoming KSC 5601  code into Sambo Combination code used in DKBI. 
Actually, there's little reason to use DKBI except that it comes with a nice
document while document and usage for  DANSI are very awakard, which doesn't
mean that it's not useful. (Dansi requires several command line arguments. 
Once you figure out which options to use, you can a make batch file for it)


  After installing DANSI or DKBI(both are RAM-resident programs for which
there is a more conventional term I forget), run your communication s/w and
make sure that you choose output via 'DOS BIOS function call' instead of
direct writting to video Ram because basically what S/W hangul does is modify
one of frequently called interrupt routine to display Hangul on the screen.
I guess most communication s/w have this option that I've seen in 'TELIX'.
Of cousre , you have to make it pass 8bit char. transparently.

  S/W hangul enables one to use HANGUL in many English s/w and is a popular
way   to use Hangul on PC in Korea because Hangul Window and Hangul DOS still
seem to have many problems. 

  Once again, what I wrote above is not certain. Telix and Kermit with DANSI,
however, worked  fine over phone-line.  

   --- Deleted. 

>-- 
>	Daeshik Kim	H: (703) 273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
>	DAESHIK.KIM@sprintintl.sprint.com	dskim@eng.umd.edu
>	/PN=Daeshik.Kim/O=SprintIntl/ADMD=Telemail/C=US/@Sprint.com

  Jungshik Shin


Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi)
Subject: Re: Orange-jok (Re: Organge Jok)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:21:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.170648.17979@news.columbia.edu> jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim) writes:
>Question: Isn't US one of those orange *producing* country?

Yes.  And one of the biggest importer as well.

>I have never heard US importing oranges.

The truth is, many of those "Florida Orange" come from Brazil.  I can
definitely recognise Brazilian laranja (orange) when I see (eat) one.
Whenver a storm hits Florida, supply of and quality of orange goes down in
Brazil because all the best ones are re-directed for export.

>Andy Kim

James Choi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: 7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca (Henry E Chon)
Subject: Dear Abby, III
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:40:59 GMT

Dear Abby,

I have a female friend who I think needs help.  She has a male friend who has a
girlfriend.  I guess the guy used to like my friend and once asked her out only
to be turned down gently.  They say they are good friends but if you saw them
together you would have no way of knowing that they were not going out.  The
way they behave, the way they talk to each other, even I thought they were
going out.  He calls my friend everyday ( I wonder if he calls his girlfriend
every day and talk to her for a couple of hours. ) and they study together very
often. 

I told her she shouldn't be hanging out with him so much and that she should
think how his girlfriend might feel but she doen't seem to care.  What do you
think, Abby?

Hank
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: st890942@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: test
Reply-To: st890942@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:18:09 GMT

In article <92346.135026U32756@uicvm.uic.edu>, U32756@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>test, -----

Hi, I hope you like this newsgroup.  I can tell you are really, really,
really eager to join this group.  See ya later.

- Juhoon Ahn (jahn@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: kim_nl@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Nina L Kim)
Subject: Re: Individualism  (was: Re: Orange-jok)
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:12:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.153841.10730@news.acns.nwu.edu> phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.062717.10343@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> kim_nl@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Nina L Kim) writes:


>>   I know I am repeating what everyone heard all too many times. I
>>certainly have not experienced how these people really feel. Only
>>thing is that no matter how valid the theory is, human feeling
>>shouldn't be ignored.  
>
>Suppose I became a successful composer over-night.  And suppose Others who
>studied composition all their life and still did not make it big envied me.
>In fact suppose they thought my music was a garbage and I am undeserving of
>my newly found fame and fortune.  What are you going to do about their
>feeling?  It certainly cannot be ignored according to you.  So, what are we
>to do about it?

 My comment was in the context of the discussed issue. But even
generally, I guess you can be humble about your instant success in 
consideration of those miserably struggling artists. :)
  To clarify what I said, I believe no theories/ideologies should be 
made in expense of basic human feelings.

>>Personally I do not believe in kind of 
>>individualism America is tending towards.  I find unity-oriented
>>philosophy more sound and  perhapse more functional for today's
>>societies.
>
>There was a large scale experiment on this exact ideal.  It was called
>communism.  The idea was good, spirit was high but it did not work.  Some
>people may feel like trying it again just to make sure.  I am all for it,
>but let me stay out.  Thank you.

   I did not mean communism when I used the word 'unity-oriented'.  I
meant the utmost respect for harmony (*not uniformity*) among groups
and the belief that 'I exist because others exist.' Some view that
this kind of belief counts for Japan's economic success. Many
educators in America are now redirecting their educational goal to more
group-oriented one, for rugged individualism is reaching its limit.

>>Nina Kim
>
>James Choi

Nina Kim
From: andrew@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Andrew Sung Hyun Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Koeran Pop Music (Re: Rapping on Korean pop/rock)
Date: 16 Dec 92 04:26:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Dec16.042637.10520
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <1992Dec16.033254.10274@news.acns.nwu.edu> phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi) writes:
>Agreed.  I was just trying to point out WHY Korean songs did NOT sound
>good.  I have a nasty habit of attempting to produce some objective
>evidence or supporting facts for my vague feelings.  All this music
>mechanics was a feable attempt at that.  But it suffices to say that "I
>think they suck."
>James Choi

Actually, I do agree that Korean Ga-Yo scene is definitly low quality
as compared to what we can find here is US.  But, depite this I think
there are few singers such as Yi Sun-He, who I consider as quality
singer.  Although there are other singers I like, but most are too
'predictable' in style and melody, this is why I consider group such
as HaBaRaGi a second rate performer, all their songs sounds about the
same.  Anyway, since I probably offended few people... time to go
on a Christmas vacation...

See you later,
Happy Holidays......

Andrew Sung Hyun Kim
From: shin-jungshik@yale.edu (Jungshik Shin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: htelbin.zip corrupt?
Date: 18 Dec 1992 22:18:54 -0500
Organization: Yale University
NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu
Keywords: hangul on PC

In article <Dec.18.17.45.23.1992.21260@gandalf.rutgers.edu> chanchoi@gandalf.rutgers.edu (S.chan Choi) writes:
>Someone previously posted a question on using hangul via telnet on 
>ethernet, and one of the responses was to use htelbin (modified
>version of telnet).
>  
>I have ftped and downloaded htelnet: htelbin.zip from
>cair.kaist.ac.kr.  But the problem is, using pkunzip (I think mine is
>the latest version), the zip file failed to unpack.  Only two batch
>files were unzipped, and the remaining exe and doc files got error
>messages.
>
>Has someone successfully unpacked telbin, or is it that the file
>is corrupt?

  No!.  I had no problem unpacking htelbin.zip. I used 'pkunzip' from
cair.kaist.ac.kr. Actually, I failed to unpack it with old version of
PKUNIZIP. 
>
>SChan Choi


Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jycha@khsun.kyunghee.ac.kr (Jong-Yul Cha)
Subject: Re: Reading HAN.* news group
Organization: KAIST, News/Mail Gateway
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 92 00:57:28 GMT

Here is a HAN.* news group list.

    han.general
    han.hangul
    han.archives
    han.fun
    han.games
    han.mail
    han.network
    han.news
    han.news.admin
    han.news.announce
    han.test
    han.sdn.general
    han.kreonet.general
    han.kren.general
    han.ara
    han.kids
    han.hitel.plaza
    han.hitel.fun

Some sites are not allowed to post when you select kum as a NNTPSERVER.
Then, try "worak.kaist.ac.kr(143.248.1.200)."  I think it will work fine,
though the accessing speed is slower than kum.

I wish everyone could make best use of it.
From: mj03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MINHO JO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: From the poster of "DJ for President"
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:14:14 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Dec15.191732.18081@tc.cornell.edu>, jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (
Brian Chung) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.175154.25985@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> umin@troi.cc.roche
ster.edu (Un-Sig Min) writes:
>>
>>I heard that his son will be leader of his party.
>>I don't have any official document.
>
>       You are kidding right?  His son?  The guy who owns that huge
>Chinese restaurant?  I thought DJ didn't want his son to be involved
>in politics and his son was really having a hard time getting a job
>because of the government's influence, and that's why he became a
>restauranteur.


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Brian,  do you have any concrete source saying DJ's son owns a huge
restaurant ?

Don't you think it is a rumor that may be spreaded by the other
competitors such as YS (possibly, Korean CIA-Angibu) ?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


                       Minho Jo, Lehigh Valley

                       
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jwjang@kaist.ac.kr (Chang Jin-woong)
Subject: Lee Jong-chan quits race.
Organization: KAIST, News/Mail Gateway
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 07:33:36 GMT

"The Korea Herald" as of Dec 13, 1992 reads;

             Lee Jong-chan quits his race to support Chung J.Y.

    Maverick politician Lee Jong-chan pulled out of the presidential race
yesterday, six days before the poll, declaring support for Chung Ju-yung.
    Lee's New Korea Party will merge with Chung's United People's Party.
    The development is expected to help boost the campaign of Chung, who
is considered a dark horse threatening the two front runners, Kim Young-sam
and Kim Dae-jung, in the presidential contest.
    Lee is the first of the eight presidential runners to quit. Public opinion
polls showed that he had been trailing the two Kims and Chung by large margins.
    Lee said he was quitting the race for more effective efforts to keep either
of the two Kims from winning the election.
    A former member of the majority Democratic Liberal Party, Lee bolted the
party after an unsuccessful bid for nomination against Kim Young-sam.
    Lee agreed on his departure from the race and the merger of the two parties
with Chung during a late-night meeting Friday, aides said.
    The meeting took place on the eve of Chung's massive campaign rally in
Yoido, Seoul, which his campaigners hoped would provide "decisive momentum"
for the tycoon-turned-politician to overtake the two Kims in the race.
    Lee and Chung agreed to become co-leaders of the new party out of the
merger, which will retain the name of Chung's present party, accroding to the
aides.
    The two were said to have agreed to push for a constitutional amendment
to introduce a parliamentary government system, replacing the present
presidential system, before the current National Assembly's term expires in
1996.

    They also decided to promote a change in the parliamentary election system,
from the present single-seat constituency to multiple-seat electoral districts,
the aides said.

    Chung's campaigners welcomed Lee's decision, saying Lee and Chung will work
together to put an end to the two Kim's domination of domestic politics.
.......end of quote........

REMARK:
The article above quoted without any prior permission from Korea Herald Company.

ANNOUNCEMENT: ON-LINE REPORT ON KOREAN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, DEC 18.
From 18:00 Dec 18, right after the finish of poll, to 9:00 Dec 19 (Korean
Standard Time: GMT+9:00), Reports will be posted to s.c.k on the hourly basis.
(Remember that this is not an official report of Korean Government. :) )
Keep running your news reader program.

Liszt from Korea
From: yang@luther.che.wisc.edu (Heewon Yang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: From the poster of "DJ for President"
Date: 17 Dec 92 03:20:57 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Originator: yang@luther.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Dec16.182407.70671@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> mj03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MINHO JO) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.193421.14487@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, tchoi@binah.cc.brandei
>s.edu writes:
>>
>>>>I heard that his son will be leader of his party.
>>>>I don't have any official document.
>>
>>DJ simply cannot win.
>
>Can you diprove that DJ simply cannot win ?
>Did you ever look at the current polls ?
>
>When you disprove it,  I wish you show us acceptable evidences.
>
 I think you are misunderstood him. You should have read it carefully.
What he tried to say is that DJ simply cannot win as long as such rumers
is in large and people think it is true.
>
>                         Minho Jo, Lehigh Valley

-Heewon.
---
 Heewon  Yang				yang@luther.che.wisc.edu
 Dept. of Chem. Engr.
 Univ. of Wisconsin - Madison.