HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sallen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Steve Allen)
Subject: A1200 AIBB_5.0 BenchMark Tests
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 11:02:53 GMT


Hi all,

Well after the comments I recieved aster giving the Sysinfo results for
the A1200, I have now used Aibb_5.0 to test the new machine.

A1200   2meg chip
comparsion A500 .5meg chip, 4meg fast

Test           A500          A1200          times better
WritePixel    104.48s        22.72s          4.6
Dhrystone     1604           3123            1.95
Matrix         23.6s          8.87s          2.6
MemTest        46.02s        13.79s          3.34
Sieve          65.28s        20.35s          3.21
Sort           58.70s        22.25s          2.64
IMath          94.14s        35.21s          2.67
TGTest         11.92s         6.38s          1.87
IntTest         0.458 Mips    0.802 Mips     1.75


So there you go.   Has anyone got comparative figures for the A2500??

Hopefully with the fast ram added all these should increse to the 
4.6 times increase of writepixel.

Ant.
pm3ah@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk
Subject: (no subject given)
Organization: Johannes Kepler University Linz - Computing Center
Date: Friday, 6 Nov 1992 16:57:52 CET
From: <K3023E2@ALIJKU11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware

Subject: Re: Hardware Reference Manual?
 <1992Nov5.153812.21614@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>

Dear Folks,
...
Someone stated here (sorry I can't still come up with the replys very well)
that the descriptions for the AGA registers will _not_ be released.
...
Well, I hardly believe that| I mean, that would not possibly make sense.
The Amiga comes into real life just with the Hardware reference manual and
I am no really looking forward to spend nights at my Amiga disassebling and
testing just to get to some knowledge which might easily be published in a nice
(book) format (Well, reminds me of the good old C=64 days...)
...
Please tell me it will be published soon...
...
Regards, Werner.
From: kreckman@cbmvax.commodore.com (Steve Kreckman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A570 CD ROM, A500 and a GVP HD
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:03:22 GMT
Reply-To: kreckman@cbmvax.commodore.com (Steve Kreckman)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

No, you can not connect both the A570 and the GVP HD to the A500 expansion port
at the same time. The expansion bus is an unbuffered extension of the micro-
processor bus and will not tolerate the heavy loads of multiple devices.

There is a possibility to add a hard drive to your A570. The A570 contains an
expansion port identical to the one on the back of the CDTV. It will accommodate
SCSI adapters, hard drives, etc. Chartscreen in the UK currently makes a SCSI
adapter to plug into this slot in CDTV (I'm not sure about the A570 version 
status). They are also in the process of making a hard drive plug in for this
slot. THe hard drives used are the 2.5" variety and available in a capacities
up to 120MB. Chartscreen products are sold in the US through DKB Software (along
with their own CDTV products), check an Amiga World magazine for a local
distributor.

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From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: PC, Redneck President, and other bad news. (was Re: Amiga 1200)
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:59:56 GMT
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Nov4.202447.10362@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:

>BTW, has everyone got their rubber boots and air filters ready?  We'll need
>them so that we don't get chicken shit on our feet and to keep the smell of
>it from knocking us out.

Even if the air did fill with that smell, it's just a smell.  One hell of a lot
better for your general health than all the toxins the Bush crowd would have 
continued to pump into the air had they stuck around.  Good riddance to bad
rubbish.  

>Y'all ready for another redneck to screw things up again like Jimmy did?  If
>you're going to buy a computer, buy it now, because you'll not be able to
>once that stupid hillbilly gets in office.  

Get a clue.  If you're comparing IQs, the Bush/Quayle administration set an all
time low (its only close competition was the Reagan/Bush administration).  I'm
proud to have helped to elect a President and Vice President with at least above
average intelligence (you don't get to be a Rhodes Scholar by being a "stupid
hillbilly").  

Most of my family is from various parts of the South.  I'm a first generation
Yankee (though I do live in _South_ Jersey), but my Dad's side of the family
has been living in Virgina and other parts of the South for 300 years.  Being
from the South doesn't make you an ignorant hillbilly any more than being from
the midwest makes you dull, being from the West makes you a drug crazed hippy,
or being from the East makes you misanthropic.  I'm considerably offended at
your prejudices.

>Skip Sauls, Not Politically Correct and Damn Proud of It!

Politically ignorant sounds more like it.


-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: markus@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Markus Illenseer)
Subject: Re: Networking?  WHY?!?
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:38:22 GMT
Reply-To: markus@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Mime-Version: 1.0X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16g (10.31.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Organization: Universitt Bielefeld, Technische Fakultt

In article <1992Nov10.211040.16091@fcom.cc.utah.edu> val@news.ccutah.edu (Val Kartchner) writes:
> markus@beaver.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Markus Illenseer) writes:
> : In article <jbono.07v8@tension.UUCP> jbono@tension.UUCP (John Bono) writes:
> : >
[Wb3.1 and ParNet]
>
> The problem with ParNet and SerNet is that it takes up one port for each
> connection.  I happen to have ParNet set up on my two machines, but I can't
> use my parallel printer.  The advantage of a thin-wire ethernet port is that
> you can connect more than 30 (recommendations vary) machines on one network.
> An added benefit is that you can get inexpensive cabling supplies from Radio
> Shack (which is everywhere).

 Well Radio Shack is not present in Germany, but who cares :)
 You are right, ParNet (and SerNet) will block your ports. In the current
 version, ParNet is not able to use another device other than par.device
 (please correct me if i am wrong), so additional parallel-cards would not
 help much.

[Network in OS]
>
> :  Remember, 25$ costs for simple Ethernet will expand to more than 100$ costs
> :  for the end-user. 100$ for something not worth it all the time.
>
> Right now, I'd be willing to pay the $100 each for ethernet capabilities in
> my two machines.  However, ethernet cards are $250 each, parallel<->ethernet
> and SCSI<->ethernet are even more expensive.  Additionally, the parallel port
> adapter will take up my parallel port (Which ParNet already does), and I
> won't gain anything.

 You and, mw, we do. But the normal Joe Dumb on the street, the one with an
 A500, 1MB and 2 Floppers, not to forget the Joystick, will not.
 I belive Dave Haynie already told us about the fact why C= hasn't brought
 up a simple network (standard hardware) for all Amiga's yet (besides Sana,
 but this is Software, and the costy ethernet).

>
> --
> |===== The previous was my opinion -- val@csulx.weber.edu =====///============|

Markus

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From: DennyA@cup.portal.com (Denny Lee Atkin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Amiga 1200
Date: Sat,  7 Nov 92 21:56:42 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

>How about Commodore calling some more chips by -male- or sex-neutral names,
>or better still, leave out the anthropomorphisms........
>
>
>-- Via DLG Pro v0.992
>

Paula,

The names are fun, and part of what makes the Amiga fun. Let the
others have their numbers. We've got personality.

There are male chips in there... I've only known one woman named Gary,
and none named "Buster" or "Ramsey." ;-)

 (It's just a good thing they got that Kiki chip out of the final
  design... It help causing poor Gary and Buster to melt. :)
From: cmd1@cec2.wustl.edu (Christopher M. Dunphy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Mitsubishi Diamodscan vs 1960...
Date: 7 Nov 92 23:13:12 GMT
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO


  Hey.  I am on the verge of buying my 4000, and am torn between the
Mitsubishi Diamondscan 14" and Commodore 1960 as my monitor.
I am leaning towards the Diamondscan since it supports composite, which
would be very useful.  Anyways, does anybody have any experience or
comments, particularly problems, with either of these two monitors.
Most importantly, is there anything that the 1960 can do, or do better
than the Diamondscan????  Thanks..

	Chris Dunphy (cmd1@cec2.wustl.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: alan@pacdata.com ()
Subject: Genlock/Amiga 1000
Keywords: GENLOCK, AMIGA
Organization: Pacific Data Products
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:31:14 GMT

Does anyone know where or how to obtain that old genlock for the 1000 that
sat under the case (it was an Amiga product)

Thanks
 


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From: RCarris@cup.portal.com (Randy L Carris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: A4000 memory
Date: Sun,  8 Nov 92 18:57:43 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Can you put SIMMs of greater than 4M capacity in the A4000.  I just need to 
know if it will be possible to expand the memory beyond 16M without using the
precious slots.  Four will fill up pretty quick, and who knows well there will
be a tower version.
Thanks,
Randy Carris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: watters@cranel.com (David Watters)
Subject: Re: Portable A600?
Organization: Cranel, Incorporated, Worthington Ohio
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:32:33 GMT

In article <Bx5zFJ.EDM@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:

>   Yes, but the same Democratic president started getting us entrenched in
>Vietnam.  George Bush was actually the first Republican president to take 
>the country to war since Abraham Lincoln.  in all wars since, the country
>was taken to war by a Democratic president.

Christ Barrett, you are truely an idiot!   Everyone and their mom knows that
Kennedy was in process of getting the US out of Vietnam, and some of your more
radical thinkers suggest that was another one of the reasons he was killed.

Will you not rest until the entire World thinks you are a waste of carbon??

>| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
>--------------------------------------------------


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From: ssustwar@csug3.cs.reading.ac.uk (S. T. Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: The A1200 is here at last.....
Summary: A1200 Here NOW!
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:19:26 GMT
Organization: University of Reading



In case anyone doesn't yet know, the Amiga 1200 has
apparently been released. I have seen a number of
shops advertising that they have the machine in
stock, so how come it has all been kept so hushed
up? Well, the specs. of the machine are still
fairly vague, or so it seems..... and C= have been
pretty vague about release dates!
From: cadpoole@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Dale Poole)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 2.04 on a 500
Date: 13 Nov 92 20:34:50 GMT
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island

Ken, I just installed V2, without a 1 meg agnus.  You'll not get one or two
features of V2 without the angus, but everything else works fine.

One or two things to watch for; as instructed, remove references to the
FastFileSystem in L: from your mountlist as well as references to GlobVecs.

FFS is now in the ROM, although the installation scripts will put an
upgraded FFS in L: until you get things modified for V2.

If you are running a RAD:, be sure to add a BootPri -129 in the mountlist.

I didn't at first, and everytime I warm-booted I got dumped to a shell in
rad: where the machine expected to boot from.  Of course no system files
were 
available!

Dale Poole
cadpoole@atlas.cs.upei.ca
From: tcampbel@unlinfo.unl.edu (thomas campbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: HD Blues-Who knows about SupraFormat Series III?- no docs
Date: 7 Nov 1992 14:35:49 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: unlinfo.unl.edu

My Series III manual doesn't have a ZERO option listed, but there
is a QUICK FORMAT option that should do the same thing if I remember 
my Series II docs correctly.  (IE, erase the partition only - no 
formatting involved.)  Under each partition's name there should be a 
QUICK gadget, which you need to set to YES to quick format the 
partition, and NO to avoid quick formatting it.  After you have the 
gadgets set the way you want, just click on the FORMAT QUICK gadget 
and it should erase the partition(s) you want it to.
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From: gilgalad@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin)
Subject: Re: PC, Redneck President, and other bad news. (was Re: Amiga 1200)
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:14:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.070107.5440@desire.wright.edu> fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu writes:
>	Well, since the Democrats have controlled the house and senate for
>	the majority of the last fourty years, I choose to blame them, not
>	the republicans.  If the gridlock congress would have supported
>	more of Bush's plans the deficit probably would not have been so

It is pure arrogance on a presidents part to blame Congress for
nothing being accomplished.  The idea is that the President is supposed to work
with the Congress, not against it.  Bush and Reagan consistenly put
forth proposals which they knew Congress would never deal with.
Congress did exactly the same.  Bush even put forth 7 proposals, which
Congress went with which Bush then vetoed 6 of them.

>	for the Democrats to blame if it does not get done.  Starting Jan 93
>	the Democrats are on notice.  Problem is the people of the US will
>	never hear the truth because a large chunk of money is paid into the
>	Democrat party by the movie and televison programmers.  The media is
>	pro-Democrat, bought and paid for with viewers money.  God, I'm glad
>	the election is over :-)

The proof is not in the pudding.  The American people are the idiots
who said that they were not going to reelect the incumbents and then
proceeded to do exactly that.  Not just that, but the very bad ones
too:  bad check writers, criminals, ...

I agree that we shall have to wait and see what gets done.  I don't
think that the media is pro-democratic, but that there is more trash
to cover on the Bush  admin.  BTW- did you look at the amount of money
that went to the various campaigns?  Bush got almost 7 times as much
PAC money than did Clinton/Gore.

-Ralph
From: fritsch@fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de (Lothar Fritsch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Maths Coprocessor A1200
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:19:31 GMT
Organization: Fachschaft Informatik, U of Saarland, FRG

I wonder whether the A1200 math co-processor can have a seperate clock so
I could place a 25 Mhz '882 or something like that into the A1200 ...
has anyone information about this topic?

Lothar

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: rsc@hao.ucar.edu (Bob Campbell)
Subject: Re: SCSI, SyQuest, and diskchanges...
Reply-To: rsc@hao.ucar.edu (Bob Campbell)
Organization: High Altitude Observatory/NCAR, Boulder CO
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 03:38:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.205217.15575@ils.nwu.edu>, knyal@ils.nwu.edu (Jarrett Knyal) writes:
> In article <10000061@hpmwmat.sr.hp.com> mikep@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Mike Powell)
> writes:
> 
> >
> >		I'm becoming increasingly desperate to find a solution...
> >		and SyQuest has attempted to help me, but with no success. 
> >
> >		Can you offer any assistance?
> >
> >		Thanks very much...
> >
> >		Mike Powell
> >
> >		P.S. terminator packs have always been in the SyQuest.
> >		P.P.S. I don't recall if I told the system that
> >		       the drive supported reselection or not (I 
> >		       really don't know what that means anyway), although
> >		       I DO know that I said it is non-bootable.
> 
> the cable was switched to a different one, everything was fine; so it was just
> the cable.  I not sure exactly why one cable should make a difference over
> another but if i had to guess I'd say that not all cables have the same pinout
> configurations, maybe they're not carrying some neccessary ground wire or
> something.
> >
> 
> 

I got a 44Meg for my A1000 not too long ago and had problems getting it to format
correctly/be recognized.  I don't know if it'll work with other controllers,
but Xetec has a program called "WatchDog" that sits around, watching for disk
changes of removable hard drives.  So far, it's worked for me very well, although
the access light on the Syquest blinks ala the floppy drives.
Also, I found that no matter how I had my configuration (Xetec contr., seagate 40
Meg, and SyQuest 44 Meg) the Syquest would ONLY work if it was between the other
two.  ie: Amiga & controller (w/ termin's) -> SyQuest -> Seagate (w/termin's)
Keep in mind too that different controllers can act very differently.  I bought
my SyQuest used full of PD software, but couldn't use it because the Xetec
controller handles hardblocks differently (than GVP).

Finally: Yes, the Mac SCSI system is slightly different.  My SyQuest manual
talks about the differences, but I don't have it with me.  I believe the 
MAC SCSI has a power line or vice/versa.
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From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Parity (Was Re: Moving 500 to 1200, BAD NEWS)
Date: 10 Nov 92 09:54:33 PST
Organization: TAP

Quoted from <ping.02pu@ping.actrix.gen.nz> by ping@ping.actrix.gen.nz (Peter Ingham):

> People who run without any Parity should also run without backups if they're THAT 
> confident of the reliability of their systems ....

    People who care so much about parity on machines that don't have
    it should write their critical software so it detects changes to
    the data, using commonly available CRC algorithms.

    An additional benefit of such care about your software is that
    you will be able to detect flipping bit errors in your secondary
    storage, transmission, etc.

>     Peter S. Ingham              ping@ping.actrix.gen.nz
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From: artix@incubus.sub.org (Andreas Goehler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A2024
Date: 7 Nov 92 05:04:12 GMT
Organization: INCUBUS-MailBox

Well, first of all, you do not need ECS to run the 2024 in the 1008x1024 mode.
Second, it is officially a four grayscale monitor, but you are able to differ eight grayscales. I run the 2024 and OS2.0 on my A500 using 512K of Chipmem.
In the A2024 mode this leaves me with about 170K of Chipmem. Using it in PAL/NTSC HiRes Interlace it takes up the normal amount of Chipmem. OS 2.0 supplies a driver for the monitor, but the A2024 package includes a disk which contains new exec, graphics and intuition libraries to activate the 1008x1024 mode on older Kickstarts (1.2 and 1.3 both work fine with this disk).

I hope i could help you with this.


                         

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett)
Subject: Re: PC, Redneck President, and other bad news. (was Re: Amiga 1200)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:30:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.162346.14874@cs.mcgill.ca> jerry@cs.mcgill.ca (Gerald (Jerry) KUCH) writes:
>In article <BxDu40.GHv@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov6.231433.26938@zip.eecs.umich.edu> gilgalad@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) writes:
>>>It is pure arrogance on a presidents part to blame Congress for
>>>nothing being accomplished.  The idea is that the President is supposed to work
>>>with the Congress, not against it.  Bush and Reagan consistenly put
>>>forth proposals which they knew Congress would never deal with.
>>>Congress did exactly the same.  Bush even put forth 7 proposals, which
>>>Congress went with which Bush then vetoed 6 of them.
>>
>>   Can you say "rider amendments"?  I knew you could!  Whenever President 
>>Bush would sent a proposal to Congress, the Congresscum would attach things
>>like abortion legalization measures or tax increases to it.  It would be nice
>>if the President could get the Congress to write the bills exactly as the
>>President wants them and then vote on them that way, but he cannot do that.
>>By the same token, you cannot blame the President for vetoing a bill that
>>he proposed because in most cases it is NOT what he proposed.  Hopefully, 
>>President Clinton will use the fact that his party controls all of Congress
>>to get line-item veto power for the President for good.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Terrific.  Why don't we abandon Congress entirely?

   GREAT IDEA!!!

   Besides, why do we need Congress as a legislative branch when we have
the Supreme Court?

> Jerry Kuch (jerry@cs.mcgill.ca)  |  Author of "Death By Boredom" Vols I - IX
> "I was wrong to play God.  Life is precious, not a thing to be toyed with.
>  Now take out that brain and flush it down the toilet."
>                  --- M. Burns  "Treehouse of Horror II"

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