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From: jab55062@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The World Reknown Jason Boskey)
Subject: Re: Playoff Football Pool
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 06:51:18 GMT

There IS a football pool.  Mine.  I give odds and everything!!! These are the 
odds as of 1am 1/5/93.  Anyone interested E-mail me.


Team                Odds        
San Francisco       3-5
Dallas              6-1 
San Diego           6-1
Philadelphia        9-1
Buffalo            19-1
Miami              40-1
Washington         40-1
Pittsburgh         45-1


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: winners of this weeks games
From: surf@netlink.cts.com (Tony Rosa)
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 02:37:31 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

my predictions (I was 4-0 last week(not posted)) in caliente

bolts vs. fish > bolts lines will dominate both sides of the game.  
Chargers by 10

Buffalo vs. pitt > Reich looks better than Kelly did at almost any time 
this year.  Bills D steps it up.  Pittsburgh misfiring.  Bills by 5

Eagles vs. 'boys > definately game of the day.  Eagles D too strong.  
Should be close.  Philly by three in o.t.

Skins vs. 49ers > Skins will pull upset of the week.  Waters will go 
crazy. Washington by 7.



These are my predictions for this week.  I have done pretty good this 
year.  Before you blast my picks, watch the games  
         TR

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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (S. Hariharan )
Subject: Re: Domes suck
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:53:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

As a Viking fan I agree. I think the Vikes have lost their 
edge after moving into the Dome. If u look into the history
of the Vikes, their glory years in the 1970s, when they
were in 4 super bowls, they played outdoors in the frigid
Artic cold of Minnesota, where visiting teams have an 
obvious disadvantage.  A good team, combined with hostile
weather conditions to which only the home team is accustomed
should make it a *lethal* combination.

Here, in my own university, which plays Div. II NCAA football,
my Uni. has won 8 or 9 championships in the past decade and
visiting teams dread to play here in the cold of North Dakota.
Unfortunately, our team is now going to play in the Fargo-Dome
this 93 season and I am *positive* that our team will not be
as invincible at home as they were when they played outdoors.

Bills, fan out there, please do not move ur team indoors for
the same reason that I have talked about. 

Comments from fellow Vikes fans are welcome.

S.H
The Purple bleeder
From: schalene@sequent.com (Schalene Dagutis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Bo and the Bears (Re: Landry to the Bears?)
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:56:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1993Jan8.205657.15346
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1ihmlaINNljv@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> wakankar@egr.msu.edu (Parag Wakankar) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.090351.10110@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> stailey@comm.mot.com writes:
>>(Gary Beason) writes:
>>
>Bo Schembechler -- With Harbaugh as QB, this would look fine.Bo was recently
>asked about this possibility and he said that he'll listen and talk to them if
>the offer comes.
>
I'm not sure how successful Bo would be as an NFL coach.  I think you have
to have a passing game in the NFL.  Something Bo was not very fond of 
passing at Michigan.  He's only slighly more appreciative of the passing 
game than Woody Hayes, who said three things can happen when you pass and 
two of them are bad."

schalene
From: shiva@cse.unl.edu (V. Sivaramakrishnan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Dan Reeves wants to go to Chicagao.
Date: 5 Jan 1993 21:16:12 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: cse.unl.edu

Dan Reeves' comments on Ditka's firing:

" It is a shame if this news is indeed true.
  But I would be interested in the job !!!".

shiva.
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From: dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (4E150M)
Subject: Re: REDSKINS
Reply-To: dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Distribution: world,local
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:33:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.004630.15086@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:
>In article <4JAN199313354112@mcvax4.d48.lilly.com> rx84335@mcvax4.d48.lilly.com (BENVENGA MARK J) writes:
>> The Redskins will beat the 9ers this week!  There is no coach
>> in the game like Joe Gibbs.
>>
>
>There is no coach like George Seifert, no coach like Dennis Green,
>no coach like Levy, no coach like ........! Hey, they are all
>unique in their own right. Joe Gibbs is a true great/legend,

As coach of the Redskins, Gibbs' is 2-6 against the 49ers, including
1-1 in the playoffs.

>but that will not always win ALL the games. If that were so,
>the 'Skins would have been the 70-90's team. NOT! This is not
>a knock on the organization and Gibbs. I can understand your
>loyalty, but let's put it in perspective. It will be a damn
>good game, coached by two of the best coaches and QB'd by two
>of the best QB's in the NFL. Bottom line: team that makes the
>less mistakes will win the game. Same as any NFL game! No?
>-- 
> ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
>"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
>everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller
From: tait@uts.amdahl.com (Tait Kirkham)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Draft stuff
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:37:01 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1993Jan8.185348.921@pony.Ingres.COM> sgove@Ingres.COM (Stu Gove, Latin America Ops -- x2870) writes:
>In article <21KF03Vdc8c700@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>, tait@uts.amdahl.com (Tait Kirkham)                  writes...
>>In article <1iid7vINNqpm@hpscit.sc.hp.com> buds@hpubvwa.nsr.hp.com (Bud Sloan) writes:
>>>
>>I'll say this, if Seattle drafts another QB this high in the first
>>round they should have their head examined.  How many times are 
>>they going to do that? You have to give Mcguire a chance.  
>>Seattle should trade the pick for multiple picks.  They need the help.
>> 
>If you take a close look at the Hawks -- let's face it, who would want 
>to look at a 2-14 team -- they are solid on the defensive side of the 
>line.

Ok.

> True, they have paid a big price to find a prime QB, and the sad 
>truth is that neither Stouffer nor McGuire fit that role.  The other 
>area where they need mondo help is in the O-line.  So, Bud's original 
>post hits Seattle's 1st round strategy right on the money.

I'm just saying that you don't draft McGuire with a high first 
the year before then go for another QB with the 2nd pick this 
year.  They don't even know what McGuire can do.  He's been
hurt so much.  In my opinion the best thing the Seahawks could
do would be to get a veteran QB to play for the next couple
of years and let McGuire/??? sit and mature, while spending
the high picks to strengthen other parts of the team i.e. O-line.
The biggest mistake any bad team makes is to take a QB in the 
first round then start him and let him get killed.  It ruins them
and many times turns out to be a wasted pick.  

>I personally think that the Pats will go for a D-lineman, leaving 
>Bledsoe for the Hawks.  After watching Drew carve up my Huskies in a 
>driving snowstorm, I believe he could be the man that makes Seattle 
>forget about Dave Krieg!  :-)  Compared to what the Hawks have right now 
>at the QB position, they would be nuts not to go for Bledsoe.


How long was McGurie hurt this year i.e. how many games did he miss?

Tait
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: jangi@ccs.northeastern.edu (Shrirang Jangi)
Subject: Relatively Few Posts from 9ers/Redskins Fans
Organization: Northeastern University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:29:08 GMT

I think the reason why 9ers/Skins fans do not raise as much cheap talk as do
the Eagles/Cowboys fans is because the former fans are at ease with 
themselves. For 9ers fans, they know that 49ers are a much stronger team (on
paper at least) and I'm sure they're feeling pretty confident. For Skins fans,
they know that Redskins might be able to beat the 49ers, but by a fairly long
shot; if Skins win, great; if they lose, they're expected to anyway. I think
the Skins fans will be willing to concede to losing to a better team but are
confident that next season they shall be good again. If winning is highly
probable (in 49er's case), or losing is acceptable (in Redskins' case), then
there's really no need for fans to argue.

On the other hand, Eagles/Cowboys fans are insecure, especially Eagles fan, 
because the matchup is much tighter. As a result, the fans do feel the need to 
justify their respective teams as a way to calm their nerves.

Anyway, this is just my humble opinion as a neutral observer.
From: danjones@pyramid.COM (Dan Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: FOR SALE : Official NFL Record Books (13)  '71 - '83
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:25:06 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: xploit.eng.pyramid.com

I have 13 of the Official NFL Record Books from '71 through '83.  The
last 9 are hardbound.  Each has complete statistics from the previous
season and all of the various current records.  Also included in each
is the complete NFL draft for the previous season.

These are produced by the Elias Sports Bureau for NFL Properties.  Does
anyone know if there are people who collect these, and if so, could you
point me in their direction.

If that doesn't pan out, would there be folks on the net who are interested 
in these?  Highest bidder gets them.  Starting bid, the cost of postage.

If you have any information regarding collectors, or are interested in them
youself, please contact me by E-mail or call me during the day at 
(408) 428-8526.

Thanks,

Dan Jones
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: Dr. Norman J. LaFave <lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: TOP TEN MADDENISMS
X-Xxdate: Fri, 8 Jan 93 15:05:37 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Company
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:09:22 GMT

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writes:
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Norman

Dr. Norman J. LaFave
Senior Engineer
Lockheed Engineering and Sciences Company




When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro
                               Hunter Thompson
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: asgari@tac30.net.com (Asgari Roger)
Subject: Re: Randall Cunningham Sucks
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Redwood City
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:19:48 GMT

In article <3310@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writes:
>In article <1993Jan12.144933.19159@kadsma.kodak.com> pajerek@telstar.kodak.com (Don Pajerek) writes:
>>At this point, it's starting to look like Cunningham
>>is a player who seems to have a lot of potential, and who occasionally makes
>>an amazing play, but you clearly is not delivering the goods in the clutch.
>
>A friend of mine pointed something out that I didn't notice before.  He
>thinks that Cunningham has more problems with a pass rush because he takes
>a long time to cock and throw the ball.  Not a *long* time, obviously, but
>significantly longer than others.  Dan Marino comes to mind; his release
>is lightening fast.  It seems that maybe Cunningham brings the ball back
>further than most, and the little bit of difference in time is all that
>NFL defenders need.
>
>Daniel Welch



        When one of the stations(either nbc, or cbs) aired the annual qb
        competition (I believe it was this show) one of the announcers
        pointed out that compared to Dan Marino who  took "8 slides of film"
        to "cock and release" while Cunningham spent "13 slides of film"
        to perform his pass. I do not recall if the nfl average was 10
        or 11 slides. This was brought to his attention many years ago
        where upon he has made efforts to reduce this. However, he is
        still a bloody good qb no matter how long he takes to cock and
        release IMO.


        Roger Asgari

        GO COWBOYS !!!
From: chf0@bunny.gte.com (Curt Fennell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: THE BUFFALO BILLS READY TO SQUISH THE FISH!! : )
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:58:39 GMT
Reply-To: chf0@gte.com
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham, MA

In article <1993Jan12.143524.3979@spuddy.uucp>, markl@spuddy.uucp (Mark Liversedge) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan11.145512.27680@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
|> >In article <1993Jan11.040155.13427@ncsu.edu> rdarnese@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD DALHS ARNESEN) writes:
|> >beat the Chargers 31-0...  Though 21 pts came thanx to great field position
|> >after the turnovers, Miami still had to put the ball in the
|> >endzone (as opposed to FG) against one of the NFL's premier defenses.  
|>                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> Any stats available to back up this statement? (I have none).

I only have the AFC stats, BUT:

San Diego ranked 2d in total defense in the AFC, tied for 1st against
the run (with Buffalo) and 5th against the pass.

|> Whatever, Miami vs Buffalo is real hard to call, they have one each this
|> season,  have both peaked and troughed and hopefully are BOTH at a good
|> state for the Conf championships.

I think this could end up being the most even game of the playoffs.
Both teams seem to be playing at their peak, they are very similar in
a lot of ways and they are both very hungry for this win.

|> I am hoping for a Buff win, but reckon it will only be by a FG or TD...
|> maybe in overtime. Watch for Oliver being pulled forward by Reed only to
|> see Beebe/Lofton sting downfield... K.Davis will probably gain more yards
|> than Thurman Thomas.

I think that this game is going to be decided by turnovers, in much
the same way as the first two games were.  The team that gets the most
turnovers will win this one.

Curt

Curt "I always pick the Dolphins - even against Buffalo!"  Fennell
			DOLFAN in New England.             
'72 Dolphins - The perfect team in the perfect season - 17-0
'92 Dolphins - AFC East Division Champions


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: blah@maas-neotek.arc.nasa.gov (MJW/TWF)
Subject: Re: NFL Labor Accord Reached
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:33:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.171736.5976@leland.Stanford.EDU> punjabi@leland.Stanford.EDU (sanjeev punjabi) writes:
>I want to clarify the concept of a restricted free agent.
>Does this Labor Agreement define a restricted free agent as a player without a
>contract and with at least 3 years & not more than 5 years of NFL experience?
>So, other teams can "bid" for this restricted free agent's services and if 
>one (B) indeed signs him, then the team that loses him (A) receives a
>compensatory draft pick (not from B however).  Now, can A match the contract
>offer of B and then keep the player without getting the compesatory pick?
>E.g., I believe that Emmitt Smith may be a restricted free agent according
>to the above definition.

Don't get too excited about Emmitt Smith.  He will either be one of
Dallas' two protected players or (more likely) their franchise player.

The thing that I didn't understand (and wasn't mentioned, at least not
in the Globe) is whether or not, and how often if so, a team can
change their designation of who's the "franchise" player.  Take for
instance, Dallas.  This year, they say Smith is their franchise
player, and sign him to a 6 year deal.  Next year, they say Aikman is
their franchise player (so he cannot become a free agent (please don't
hassle me about not being in the league for 5 years - this is just an
example)), and sign him for a 6 year deal, thus preventing other teams
from being allowed to bid on him during the contract negotiations.

Any ideas?


Thanks,

Mark
Go Dallas

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: rsykes@AFIT.AF.MIL
Subject: REQUEST: NFL team logos in any format
Organization: Air Force Institue of Technology, WPAFB OH
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:40:47 GMT

I would like pictures of team logos to add to my collection, pleas
post, mail, or tell of ftp sites with them on it.

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From: nix@ssdss5.asl.dl.nec.com (David Nix)
Subject: Re: Greatest Comebacks
Organization: NEC America, Inc Irving TX
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:58:52 GMT

Just some added comments:

>Biggest Comebacks - Overall
>
> 32 - Buffalo vs. Houston (playoffs), Jan 3, 1993 (trailed 35-3,
>      won 41-38 in OT)
> 28 - San Francisco vs. New Orleans, Dec 7, 1980 (trailed 35-7,
>      won 38-35 in OT)
> 25 - St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay, Nov 8, 1987 (trailed 28-3, won
>      31-28)

This was the biggest 4th quarter comeback in NFL history, as the score was
28-3 going into the 4th quarter.  Engineered by Lomax, I believe.

> 
> Biggest Comebacks - Playoffs
> 
> 32 - Buffalo vs. Houston, Jan 3, 1993, wild card (trailed 35-3,
>      won 41-38 in OT)
> 20 - Detroit vs. San Francisco, Dec 22, 1957, divisional playoff
>      (trailed 27-7, won 31-27)
> 18 - Dallas vs. San Francisco, Dec 23, 1972, divisional playoff
>      (trailed 21-3, won 30-28)
> 18 - Miami vs. Cleveland, Jan 4, 1985, divisional playoff
>      (trailed 21-3, won 24-21)
> 15 - Denver vs. Houston, Jan 4, 1991, divisional playoff
>      (trailed 21-6, won 26-24)

Miami came from a 24-0 deficit to take the lead against San Diego in a wildcard
game, but lost 41-38 in overtime.  Kellen Winslow for SD had 13 receptions and
blocked two Miami game-winning FGs, and Don strock came off the bench for Miami
halfway through the 2nd quarter (down 24-0) and threw for nearly 400 yards.

Nix
From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Chargers' injury news
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:03:54 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: what.. me.. organized?



RB Rod Bernstine and backup DB Delton Hall are the two players that 
are questionable for Sunday's game at Miami. Of the two, Hall's injury 
is more serious and they are considering activating Safety Fuller off
the practise squad to take his place. Bernstine's status may be a 
game-time decision.

The new NFL agreement could make it difficult for SD next year. There are
several starters who will be free-agents, and unless Spanos opens up his
vaults, SD could have problems. Prominent free-agents include DE O'Neal,
OL Richards, RB Bernstine, WR Miller.


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| Prashanth                    |                      |
| U. of California @ San Diego | prash@raman.ucsd.edu |
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From: wakankar@egr.msu.edu (Parag Wakankar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Landry to the Bears?
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:44:26 GMT
Reply-To: wakankar@egr.msu.edu (Parag Wakankar)
Organization: Michigan State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: frith.egr.msu.edu
Originator: wakankar@frith.egr.msu.edu

In article <1993Jan6.090351.10110@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> stailey@comm.mot.com writes:
>(Gary Beason) writes:
>
>*I just heard on WGN news that the Bears are considering asking to
>*interview Landry for the coaching position.
>
>*Imagine my thoughts, my being a Cowboy fan.
>*But, is that Tom or Greg Landry?
>
> They were talking about Greg Landry, the current offensive
> coordinator for the Bears. But don't hold your breath...
> current thinking says McCaskey will go outside the organization
> for a new coach. And the leading candidate seems to be...
>
> Richie Pettibone - former Bear/current def coord for Washington
>
> That would mean Vince Tobin is out! (Yeah!)

Two intersting names I recently heard about Bears coaching job.

Bo Schembechler -- With Harbaugh as QB, this would look fine.Bo was recently
asked about this possibility and he said that he'll listen and talk to them if
the offer comes.

Buddy Ryan-- This seems far fetched. Because most of the players from Buddy era
are gone or about to retire. But he can at least take them to playoffs-if not tosuperbowl.


Any comments?

Parag 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: wcd2z@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (William Camden Daniel)
Subject: Re: A Super Bowl Fantasye
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:51:14 GMT

Actually it would be more exciting to see the Steelers and the
Cowboys.  Back to the vintage days!!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu (Mark Schnitzius)
Subject: Just curious
Organization: University of Central Florida
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:22:48 GMT

Is anyone picking their team to lose this week?

mark
From: kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kevin Day)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Ditka Has Been Fired!
Date: 7 Jan 93 11:38:11 GMT
Reply-To: kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kevin Day)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.sport.football.pro, campbell@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (Ray E. Campbell) writes:
>
>Let me be the first to say (as a non-Bears fan) that I am sorry to see Mike go.
>He is a good coach and a winner.  It will be interesting to see who the next
>head coach  of the Bears will be.
>

  I think Mike Ditka WAS a very good coach but this past season he lost
it. The best example of this I saw was his statements after their first
loss to the Vikings, after having a huge lead. He, pretty much, blamed
the whole Viking comeback on an audible Harbaugh called, which ended
up being an interception that was run back for a TD. He blasted Harbaugh
on the sidelines and then blasted him before the press after the game.
  All year Ditka was clueless on what to do to get his team to perform.
Good coaches get the best out of their players. I know Ditka has a team
that is on the decline, but, good coaches can take a group of so-so
players and at least make them look respectable. Ditka couldn't do that
anymore. It was time for him to move on.

K. Scott Day   (kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil)
Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
Code 1252
Bethesda, Maryland 20084-5000

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