HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: 8-bit/modem/PR question
Date: 27 Jul 92 06:37:48 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Well, I don't have any of your problems (or equipment, other than the
800XL), but I would guess that it's the modem.  My 1030 started acting
up a few years back--it still works, but (well, it's been a long time)
I think the lights stay on even when it's not connected and it does a
few other things weirdly.  My understanding is that while my power
cords are plugged into a surge protector, this does little (as in
nothing) to protect the modem from spikes on the phone line.  My brother
had his whole system fried by a lightening strike on the phone line
(if I remember that one correctly...).

I believe that you can get surge protectors for phone lines as well, though
I suspect that dangerous spikes are much more rare or we would hear more
about them.

I hope these shared experiences will be found to be helpful by someone.

--PC
From: conklin@theclub.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Piracy, morals and Microsoft employees
Date: 27 Jul 92 04:26:55 GMT


It's worthy of note that the entire piracy issue could be moot, since some of
the copyrighted titles involved may be beyond the lifetime of Copyright. 
(Lifetime of copyright? There have been court decisions along these lines)
Further, if fair effort has been made identify the legal holders of the 
copyright, and the holder of that copyright no longer exists and the
copyright wasn't explicitly transferred then the expression of the work 
falls into the public domain. Basically, a non-existent corporation can't
hold a copyright.

Another factor worthy of note - most Atari products weren't licensed. If
you look at, say, a Microsoft product, you'll note that you never OWN
the product. Your purchase is a license to use. If the product were actually
sold, then you would _own_ the product and the vendor would have no right to
dicate the terms by which you used it. However, Atari products were sold 
long before this distinction was recognized and thus are not restricted in
the same way modern products are.

Back in the real world, (the legal world is so enfused with lies as to not
qualify,) you have a problem of reason versus the law. The law clearly 
supports Derek's position, but the law in my town also states that anyone
can file a noise complaint at ANY time no matter what the volume level and
you MUST comply.  Certainly, these laws have some real purpose, but the letter
of the law isn't the intended use of the law.  Unfortunately, writing laws
that come out like their intent seems impossible, something that lawyers
(and Derek, it seems) (ab)use to their heart's content.

Not to be callous, I must admit Derek comes across like the Serbs declaring
that feeding starving Croatians is a crime.

Terry Conklin                        "Satan loves you. How would you know?"
theclub!conklin@egr.msu.edu
uunet!frith!theclub!conklin       The Club II  (313) 334-8877 <<-- 8 bit stuff

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: bbs@neb (BBS System)
Subject: Re: 'Puter & Stuff 4-sale
Organization: Nebula BBS - Salt Lake City Utah, USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:28:56 GMT

$40.00 for the US DOUBLED 10550
J. King aka Kamaro Kid 
-----
Posted by BBS User: James King
Organization: Computing Technology Services, Michigan Technological Univ.
Date: Thursday, 23 Jul 1992 21:07:51 EST
From: Jeff McWilliams <JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Writing A Disassembler
 <Jul.23.10.46.32.1992.6718@electron.rutgers.edu>


In article <Jul.23.10.46.32.1992.6718@electron.rutgers.edu>,
chase@electron.rutgers.edu (Kevin Chase) says:
>
>Actually, according to the manual I have, it only supports things like
>STZ, ADC (ZP), and a few others.  It does not implement the BBS 0-7,branch
>or the BBR, or TSB, TRB opcodes.  I have a hacked version of ra65 which
>supports these, but I have never tested my additions.  (I added the feature
>less than a month ago).

According to my manual, which is revision 1.2, and comes paper
bound with 3 holes in its edges, and a yellow cart., MAC/65
supports the following:

Indirect addressing, via  LDA (indirect)

which is the same as      LDY #0
                          LDA (indirect),Y

the BIT instruction has two new modes,

BIT absolute,X
BIT zeropage,X

and adds    JMP (indirect,X)   as well.

further, new OPCODES are supported:

BRA, DEA,  INA, PHX, PHY, PLX, PLY, STZ, TRB and TSB

Note:  There are two different 65C02 processors, the one mentioned and
supported by MAC/65 is made by NCR.  Well, according to "Programming
the 65816, including the 6502, 65C02, and 65802" this chip is
originally from WDC.

Rockwell made a different 65C02, with different instructions and
enhancements, as follows:

BBR Branch if Bit Reset
BBS Branch if Bit Set
RMB Reset memory bit
SMB Set memory bit

The Rockwell R65C02 also supports the NCR or WDC 65C02 instructions
and addressing modes, making the R65C02 instruction set a superset
of the W65C02.  So, actually your presumption that MAC/65 doesn't
support the 65C02 fully is incorrect, it just depends on what
65C02 you are talking about!


Jeff McWilliams
jjmcwill@mtus5.cts.mtu.edu

Hige sceal pe heardra, herote pe cenre,
mod sceal pe mare, pe ure maegen lytlad

Courage must be the firmer, heart the bolder,
spirit the greater, the more our force diminishes.
Organization: Computing Technology Services, Michigan Technological Univ.
Date: Saturday, 25 Jul 1992 04:28:01 EST
From: Jeff McWilliams <JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Hardware Questions

Some hardware questions, that maybe someone more inclined toward hardware
than myself (yikes!) can answer:

1)  Does anyone know of a source for a prototyping card, like the apple
    cards, but with an edge connector containing 25 connecions per side,
    that will mate with a 50 conductor ribbon cable IDC edgecard connector?

2)  Does anyone know exactly what the differences are between a standard
    6502 and Atari's 6502C used in the XL/XE computers?  i.e. exactly
    what did they change, and therefore what would need to be added
    to say, a 65C02, to plug wire it into an XL/XE?


Thanks for the help folks!

Jeff McWilliams
From: deaven@physics.Berkeley.EDU (David Deaven)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: A dumb question!
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:26:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu

bruck@BRACHOT.JCT.AC.IL (Itay Chamie1) writes:
>Alot of times I ask myself the question: How was the Rev A OS written? I mean,
>the Atari assembler wasn't out yet, so did they use calculators? And how was
>Rev A BASIC created? And how was the Atari Assemler/Editor written?
>Were all the Rev A bugs (both in the OS and in BASIC) there just because they
>were written in unreliable ways? (not using an assembler?)

They were developed on PDP-11's, as you can tell from the Atari
Hardware manual, which gives PDP-11 command sequences to load the test
monitor from an Atari development machine. I was pretty jealous when I
read that part in the manual!

Bugs are present in almost all code -- witness the recent collapse of
a major AT&T phone routing network due to ``a few lines of code''. 

I still write Atari assembler on a workstation. A cross-assembler in a
UNIX environment is a very nice thing -- I use a small one which I've
written in C and you can imagine how much easier it is
to go through the edit-assemble-edit cycle.  I can download the binary
straight to the Atari via RS-232 over a 2400b modem (or just right off
the port on the workstation, if I bring in an xl machine on the
weekend or at night). This is all very much simpler for me than the
old Atari Macro Assembler or (even worse) the Assembler/editor cartridge.
But then I have a pretty low-tech system; no hard drive and none of my
machines have more than 48K. My main use for these beautifully
engineered machines is for incorporation in to electronic projects
which require a brain, and some small ``home computation'' tasks.
-- 
David Deaven (deaven@physics.berkeley.edu)
Physics Department
University of California at Berkeley
Berkeley, CA 94720
From: bruck@BRACHOT.JCT.AC.IL (Itay Chamie1)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: I wanna buy some stuff
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:26:28 GMT
X-Unparsable-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 17:26:03 EET DST

I've accidentally fed my Indus GT's power supply with 220 A/C volts...
I need a new one!! Where? How much?
Also, anyone know where I can buy joystick cords and/or joysticks?
I'm down to my last working stick, and it's going fast!!! Aaarrggh!!
                                                                -Itay
--
                           ****************
                           * Itay Chamiel *
           bruck@brachot.jct.ac.il  OR  bruck@147.161.1.1
                           * The Parasite *
                           ****************
        Calling to YOU from Jerusalem, Israel! (a cozy place)
From: Tim.Gearin@f47.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Tim Gearin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Atari 2600/7800 programming info/specifications sought
Date: 25 Jul 92 11:05:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: tdkt.712142739.F00001


     What do you mean by 'reversed Engineered?  From your post Im somehow
getting the impression that you had something to do with the design of the Sears
'Tele games' system.  
 
     If you do know a bit about the 2600, Id like to hear more from you.  

 * Origin: FlightLine BBS Mpls,MN USRdual 612-544-5118 (1:282/47.0)
From: ac742@yfn.ysu.edu (Joe Perkins)
Subject: Re: Piracy, morals and Microsoft employees
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:30:07 GMT


Atari corp has had long enough already.. Let's not play nice guy 
with hat in hand approaching them for a "favor".
Who cares idf we piss them off? What are they gonna do..drop 8-bit
supprort? Ha!
I'm tellin' you..I will not buy any of their products, present or
future, no matter how glitzy..until they properly address the customers
 they have abandoned!
As a matter of fact..the TV station I work for was looking for a 
graphics machine, and I am in charge of selecting the system...
The ST would do a better job at a cheaper price..do you think I 
stuck my neck out and supported the Atari product?
Hell no...get a PC I told em!
They bought 6 (six) of the darn things!

Yes Atari..I am your worst advertiser..what do you think of that?
So if there are others of you out there who feel the same way, let's 
pull it together and tell these guys to get a GRIP , or we will trash
their reputation worldwide...

That is the only way I kow to deal with a large, unresponsive company.

-- 
****Joe Perkins
    Internet:  ac742@yfn.ysu.edu
****

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: bbs@neb (BBS System)
Subject: Z*net
Organization: Nebula BBS - Salt Lake City Utah, USA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:13:35 GMT

You have my vote!
.
J.King aka Kamaro Kid @ Neb in Utah!
-----
Posted by BBS User: James King
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: hill@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Hill)
Subject: Re: Does Elvis own an Atari 8-bit?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 01:09:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.004350.6820@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow) writes:
>In <NHoooB2w164w@cyberden.uucp> moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>
>>bd891@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Allwood) writes:
>
>>> 
>>> Well does he?
>>> GO ATARI
>>> GO ATARI
>>> GO ATARI
>>> GO ATARI
>>> GO ATARI
>>> GO ATARI
>>> 
>>SOMEbody was pretty bored!!!    :)
>
>>    "Be seeing you!"
>>Say|____________9_year_veteran_ ||| __
>>Hi |PhBill: Bill Kendrick      / | \
>>if |moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
>>in |__________________________________
>>NJ!|                     July 29, 1992
>
>But you have to be even more bored to respond to a post like that.  :-)
>
>9 year veteran?
>I bought my Atari 800 with 48K and 810 drive way back on 31 December 1981.
>So I'm working on year 11.
>
>--PC
>
>Please somebody post a message asking us to stop this thread so we can keep
>posting for another couple of weeks.

Could we please stop posting these inane messages?  This newsgroup is for
serious religious discussion of computers, and these messages are inap-
propriate to that purpose.  Please take it to alt.get-a-life or somewhere.
Thank you.

	--Michael (trying hard not to let a smile crack my poker face) Hill

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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 29 Jul 1992 13:20:08 CDT
From: Mark Czarnowski <U58578@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject:    Questions about XE etc.


qquit
qquit
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: bbs@neb (BBS System)
Subject: Complaints
Organization: Nebula BBS - Salt Lake City Utah, USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:31:08 GMT

Look, this is an Atari 8 bit SIG - if you dont like the topics or the
IBM bashing, then take it somewhere else. To each his own - for most of
us, we prefer the 8 bit platform (and about 80% of us own IBM PC's as
well!)
-----
Posted by BBS User: James King
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Subject: Re: Skipping levels in Miner 2049er
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:02:02 GMT


In article <62645@cup.portal.com> Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com writes:
>
>Then, while playing the game, type the digits of the telephone number,
>with area code.  No punctuation, just the ten digits themselves.
>
>After that, you can hold down SHIFT-CONTROL plus any digit, and instantly
>jump to that level.  Voila!

There is also a Level 0 (yes, ZERO) which I somehow managed to get into
one day and haven't been able to recreate since. As I recall, you got
unlimited lives or something equally cool. Can you type SHIFT-CONTROL-0
to get there? Guess I'll have to check... ;-)
From: rearly@okcadm.okanagan.bc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: PORTFOLIO ACCESSORIES WANTED
Date: 23 Jul 92 10:47:22 GMT
Organization: Okanagan College

WANTED PORTFOLIO MEMORY CARDS & SERIAL INTERFACE
WILL SWAP PARALLEL INTERFACE FOR SERIAL
WANT 32 or 64 K MEMORY CARDS, USED, AND CHEAP
PLEASE REPLY BY EMAIL TO 
      REARLY@ADMIN.OKANAGAN.BC.CA
From: a644690c@edinboro.edu ("Adam J. Conover")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: The Pawn!
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:50:06 GMT

Hello All...

I posted a while ago about my interest in purchasing the Pawn from someone,
and I had several replies.  But in an unintentional mass delete, I seem to
have lost those replies.  If you had an original you wanted to sell, could
you please send me e-mail again?

Thanks a lot....

Peace,                               
-Adam Conover                         
    a644690c@edinboro.edu
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: bbs@neb (BBS System)
Subject: Re: Stuff left for sale
Organization: Nebula BBS - Salt Lake City Utah, USA
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 21:25:18 GMT

Are any of the two 1050's double density (US Doubled, etc..)?? If so, I
am interested in one of them..
-----
Posted by BBS User: James King
From: thester@nyx.cs.du.edu (Uncle Fester)
Subject: Re: PSAN
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 18:42:06 GMT


To whover asked about the PSAN (Puget Sound Atari News) newsletter, I just
happened to have an April 1990 copy on my desk (the rest are God only
knows where) and can give you the following:

               Jim Chapman (coordinator) (206) 566-1703

I don't know if he's still at that number, so here's some BBS numbers that
are connected with S*P*A*C*E  and PSAN:

               The Reef BBS:             (206) 848-3371
               Cave Creek BBS:             "   783-5867
               Sub S*P*A*C*E BBS:          "   756-8122

One other indivudual that would be helpful is:

               Jeff Fehr (S*P*A*C*E librarian) at (206) 473-0709.

And for the hell of it, a nice underground Atari BBS:

               The Great Gig             (206) 448-7460

Hope this helps.
--
:  Master,                        :       Uncle Fester       : Printed  :
:    Me and Rex took the kar      :   thester@nyx.cs.du.edu  : on 100%  :
:    to town. Stay home. Stay!    :         -or try-         :recyclable:
:       Ha ha ha ha.   The dog.   :    T.HESTER4 on GEnie    : phosphor :
From: Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Skipping levels in Miner 2049er
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 06:45:52 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Jul22.201446.13383@cis.ohio-state.edu> <BruEvF.GLo@news.cso.uiuc.edu>

Khan writes:

>In article <62645@cup.portal.com> Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com writes:
>>
>>After that, you can hold down SHIFT-CONTROL plus any digit, and instantly
>>jump to that level.  Voila!
>
>There is also a Level 0 (yes, ZERO) which I somehow managed to get into
>one day and haven't been able to recreate since. As I recall, you got
>unlimited lives or something equally cool. Can you type SHIFT-CONTROL-0
>to get there? Guess I'll have to check... ;-)

Wowl... level ZERO?  Never saw THAT one.  Do you remember what the layout
was like?  

As I remember, typing SHIFT-CONTROL-0 in "cheat mode" took you to level
TEN, not ZERO...

Chris 
  Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: AtariWriter Printer Drivers
From: gary@mcsiad.UUCP (Gary W. Furr)
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:24:42 GMT
Organization: Motorola Computer Systems Division, Washington, DC -- mcsiad
Keywords: AtariWriter, Printer Drivers
Summary: AtariWriter Printer Drivers

This summer marks over 9 years since I started building the first
Printer Driver for the AtariWriter Word Processing Cartridge.
In those 9 years, Atari sold over 800,000 original cartridges
and God knows how many AtariWriter Plus products.  I sold about
10,000 Printer Driver diskettes, originally through the old
Atari Program eXchange (APX), then for the last 8 years by
mail order only.  Several companies started copying my Printer
Drivers and I'm sure that thousands of copies have been made
by individuals.  Still, I'm here to support users of the Atari
8-bit machines who still use the old AtariWriter cartridge.

I still sell Printer Drivers for about 140 different printers,
however, I have stopped trying to create new Drivers to
accommodate all of the new printers.  I still sell them for
$10.00 each for a diskette and User's Manual, customized to
each printer.

If you are interested, or know someone who is, send check or
money order to:

Gary W. Furr
P. O. Box 469
Vienna, VA 22183
From: Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: alt real dungeon: stuck
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 08:46:18 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Off the top of my head, I can remember ship wreck & bloodstone. Did you need
his name or the other answer? I can get both, but it'll take me a few minutes
to find the answers.
From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: The Pawn.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 16:53:13 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Well... from what I recall when looking at some review of it in an OLD 
compute! or something.. it was supposedly a GREAT graphx/text adventure 
game and at least on the ST or Amiga screen (they only showed one pic) it 
had VERY nice looking graphics.  It supposedly has about 200 peices of 
information for each object ...pretty much everything you see on the 
screen.  It's not like one of those games with a picture of a chair on 
the screen and you say "take chair" and it says "there's no chair here!" 
because it doesn't KNOW that...even tho there's a picture of one right 
in front of you!    Anyways... it looks like a pretty decent game.  I'd 
look around for it myself, but I'm not into text adventures very much.  
If I came across it myself (for a DECENT price) and the graphics looked 
really good, I'd get it myself just to see HOW good it is on the 8-bits 
compared to what I read about it "in general"...        if you like Zork 
& all those games, I'd suppose you'd really like it...


    "Be seeing you!"
Say|____________9_year_veteran_ ||| __
Hi |PhBill: Bill Kendrick      / | \
if |moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
in |__________________________________
NJ!|                     July 22, 1992
From: Amos.Jackson@f47.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Amos Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: SDX Users?
Date: 25 Jul 92 21:22:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: tdkt.712142739.F00003

BTW, I did mention that I have several versions, but didn't list which ones or a
full list of equipment, so I'll do that now:
 
SpartaDOS:  X32C, X32D, X32X (MODIFIED), XC23C, XC23E, XD23C, XD23E.
Also SpartaDOS version 1.1
 
Equipment used:  ! MEG 800XL, 320K XE, 1 meg MIO, Hard drive set up contains 2
hard drives - Seagate ST-251-MLC-0 and ST-251-1, a Citizen 120D printer and a
ATD 2400 baud modem.
 
Amos Jackson

 * Origin: FlightLine BBS Mpls,MN USRdual 612-544-5118 (1:282/47.0)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: brayl@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Rayl)
Subject: Re: Piracy, morals and Microsoft employees
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 17:08:02 GMT


Joe...

What do you mean "we will trash their reputation world-wide?"  It's already
been done, and much more effectivly than you could do it; and it was  done
by the Tramiels themselves.  So, why are ou wasting the tim and emotional
energy to try to trash 'em?

If you don't care to take my word for it, just check out the aug 3. issue
of Forbs magazine.  Forbes carries a lot of weight in the world.

                Pattie Rayl (Atari Interface)
From: lenn@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jody Lenn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE FOR SALE!!! (older 1050 price)
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:36:00 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

I forgot to put the price of the second 1050, it is $40 plus shipping.




                                                     Jody Lenn
From: bd891@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Allwood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Does Elvis own an Atari 8-bit?
Date: 23 Jul 92 13:20:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


Well does he?
GO ATARI
GO ATARI
GO ATARI
GO ATARI
GO ATARI
GO ATARI

-- 
I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ for it is the POWER of 
God unto SALVATION! * Paul Allwood bd891@Cleveland.Freenet.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: bbs@neb (BBS System)
Subject: Re: Old software
Organization: Nebula BBS - Salt Lake City Utah, USA
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 21:28:53 GMT

Hmm. Talk about moronic posts. Granted, pirating hurts everyone, but
when the companies are no longer in business or no longer carry (sell,
manufacture, publish, ad nauseum) 8 bit titles - what then? Do those
titles simply just disappear? I seriously doubt that anyone will pursue
8 bit pirates at this specific day and age - as most business's that DID
create 8 bit stuff are no longer making money on them and its simply not
worth the hassle and expense.
-----
Posted by BBS User: James King