From: CACHO@ITESO.BITNET
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Re: help on implementing internet & tcp/ip
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:41:13 GMT
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> >I would like some advice on implementing more direct internet
> >support on our network.  I have a mixed installation with Arcnet
> >and Ethernet and large number of servers of various vintages.
> >While I am fairly experienced with novell and multiple server
> >ipx environments, I have no previous experience with TCP/IP.
> >
> >I'm using the ODI drivers on all new installations, and converting
> >older installations to the ODI drivers as we come across them.
> >We have a number of Vax machines, and our Novell Servers are sharing
> >an ethernet backbone with them.  I have one copy of Netware for VMS
> >installed, and this is currently our connection between the "worlds".
> >Currently, a user has to load "TES" on his pc, and run a terminal emulator
> >to connect to the VAX, and run VAX MAIL and FTP, etc. to get to
> >the Internet.  (On the Novell side, we are using WordPerfect Office
> >as our mail system.)
> >
> >My goal is to be able to simplify the process and allow an arcnet or
> >ethernet user to run software on his pc and connect easily to the
> >Internet for mail and ftp.  I'm hoping that there are inexpensive
> >solutions to this.

        Here we use odi for arcnet, and odipkt, it gives you access to all
the packet driver software, such as:

        NCSA telnet  (CUTCP from clarkson) which I'm using now from my arcnet
        terminal.
        FTP  from the same source.
        ARCHIE from clarkson, available from the archie ftp server.
        TRUMPET, from many ftp sites.
        GOPHER, from boombox.micro.omn.edu  (Very nice program)
> >
> >Thanks in advance for the advice.
> >
> >Richard Warwick
> >
> >  Richard Warwick, Manager of PC Services  Internet: WARWICKR@SLUAVA.SLU.EDU
> >  Saint Louis University                      Voice: (314) 577-8620
> >  Medical Center Computing Services
> >  1402 South Grand Avenue  C308
> >  St. Louis  MO  63104
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>         To run TCP/IP on the various workstations when using Novell ODI based
> shells there are several possibilities.
>         One is to use Lan WorkPlace for DOS, and get an educational discount.
>         Another is to use Kermit, v3.12, over ODI.
>         A third is to load shim ODIPKT for those Packet Driver apps which
> can work with the frames. That lets out Arcnet boards.

        Sorry, but I'm using it with arcnet now, and works, we have 90% of our
460 network PCs with arcnet, and all work fine, with dos 5, remote boot, odi
and ODIPKT applications, not even need to define net.cfg files.

>         And a fourth is to make an TCP/IP server gateway with small stubs
> on each workstation. There are commercial products offering this service,
> but the names of vendors slip my mind
        you can use netware 3.11 to do the routing work, or KA9Q, which is
free.
>         I too run NW/VMS on my VAX. We used to use TES a lot, but more
> flexibility became possible when we switched to Telnet/IP as the preferred
> protocol. TES has the advantage of traveling in IPX packets and thus can
> be routed through both new and older NetWare servers.
>         Joe D.
>
--
  Hector Gonzalez, Iteso University.
  Guadalajara, Mexico.
  Cacho@iteso
  Cacho@itesocci.gdl.iteso.mx
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