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From: ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gail E. Brookhart)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Eagle Dog Food
Date: 14 Dec 1992 16:02:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gail E. Brookhart)
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In a previous article, sla54@cas.org (Sandra Augustine) says:

>	Have any of you tried the Eagle dog foods? When I was at a dog
>show last month I picked up info from the various dog food
>distributors/manufacturers who were there, and I liked some of the things that
>I read in the Eagle brochure (e.g., use of meat, chicken, AND fish; the
>addition of yogurt-like "friendly bacteria", etc.).
>
>	I'm currently in the process of switching some of my dogs over to
>Eagle Natural Pack and would be interested in hearing about the experiences
>that people have had with dog food manufactured by Eagle. THANKS.
>
>********************************************************************************
>Sandra Augustine  |Home of: Conformation, obedience, and field titled Golden
>NORWOOD KENNELS   |Retrievers who do therapy dog work, a disobedient but
>ems: sla54@cas.org|beautiful Siberian husky and a *cute* Norfolk terrier puppy
>********************************************************************************
>	       The above opinions are not those of my employer.
>********************************************************************************
>
>

I used to demonstrate product for Eagle and I have not had 
bad luck with the food.  As a matter of fact, the only thing that
I can really say against it is that it meets its claims too well!

You really do feed less, it really is very digestible, it does
not stink, the dogs do like to eat it.  My problem came from 
not being able to feed my dogs enough to fill them up.  They were
getting enough calories and were thriving on very little dog 
food but they were hungry all the time!  At least the Bouvier was
always hungry but she was from a situation where she felt that
she had to always grab food and is a bit of a pig.  The Airedale
loved the Natural Pack!

Gail Brookhart
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belzowski (K-9's))
Subject: Re: Eagle Dog Food
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:54:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.140304.7131@cas.org> sla54@cas.org (Sandra Augustine) writes:
>	Have any of you tried the Eagle dog foods? When I was at a dog
>show last month I picked up info from the various dog food
>distributors/manufacturers who were there, and I liked some of the things that
>I read in the Eagle brochure (e.g., use of meat, chicken, AND fish; the
>addition of yogurt-like "friendly bacteria", etc.).
>
>	I'm currently in the process of switching some of my dogs over to
>Eagle Natural Pack and would be interested in hearing about the experiences
>that people have had with dog food manufactured by Eagle. THANKS.
>
>********************************************************************************
>Sandra Augustine  |Home of: Conformation, obedience, and field titled Golden
>NORWOOD KENNELS   |Retrievers who do therapy dog work, a disobedient but
>ems: sla54@cas.org|beautiful Siberian husky and a *cute* Norfolk terrier puppy
>********************************************************************************
>	       The above opinions are not those of my employer.
>********************************************************************************
>

Well not to help with the current heated debate over the Prefect Food, :)    
but I have just switched over to Eagle Kennel Pack for my two collies.
Both of them have been on it for about 4 months now.  Their coats are
gorgious now!  They are as richly black in color as they have ever been.
I have found that artifical coloring turns black coats a rusty-red in
color.  Eagle has no artifical color.  It also does not has Ethoxiquine (sp)
and Mauii has not been itching as much (Mauii can get food allegries if
there is too much preservatives).  They eat a bit less of Eagle than they
did of Eukanuba.  The Eagle is also cheeper than Eukanuba.  Both seem
happy and as energetic as before.  I've done a lot of food research to
find foods that my dogs flurish on, and this one has been the best so
far.  Eukanuba is in second, and Purina Pro Plan is a very close third.
Purina ONE, and Iams are both good too.  

Hope this helps.


---------
Marla Belzowski   saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
Mauii Nikki Belzowski CD CGC TDI CERF
Brittish Legend of Beowulf CD CGC TDI CERF  tri-color collies
Legend's Year of Jubilee  S&W collie  (She's on Eagle Puppy -- And looks great
				       too!)




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From: gam@sun_jimh.mentorg.com (Gary Merrick)
Subject: dogs in the snow
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:22:32 GMT
Organization: mentor
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

My girlfriend said that you'd laugh at me if I asked this question,
but I figured I'd take the chance anyway.

I have a couple of mutts that I'd like to take up to the snow
with me for a few days. Jenny is a golden/terrier mix (best guess),
and weighs about 45 lbs., and Buddy is a poodle/terrier mix (b.g.),
who weighs in at a hefty 30 lbs. They are indoor dogs that are quite
used to sleeping with whoever has the warmest bed. When compared to
the all-weather "mountain dogs" we typically see romping in the snow,
mine could be classified as Mega Wimps, as they have never been exposed
to harsh weather of any kind, and completely lack the robust frame.
If these dogs were human, they would probably be computer nerds.

Although both have very thick coats, I have witnessed them on
"colder" days (at least, as cold as it gets in the San Francisco
Bay area) when it's time to go outside to do their duty, slink out
the dog door to the porch, evaluate the environmental conditions,
and dart right back inside to wait for either warmer weather or
physical desparation.

(Our neighbor's dog does the same thing, though in a much funnier
way. Since he doesn't have a dog door, he has to let his pooch out
at certain times during the day. If it's raining, or if the
temperature isn't to his liking, Leo looks up at his doorman
as if to say "You expect ME to go OUT THERE? Forget it, pal,"
and promptly retires to his comfy couch inside.)

Anyway, you get the idea. Should I be concerned about taking them
outside in the snow? Is there a danger of them getting frostbite
on their paws? Although Buddy is moody and unpredictable when
playtime is concerned, Jenny will follow me virtually anywhere.
If I were to charge through the snow for a couple of hours, I'm
sure whether she felt comfortable with it or not, she'd be there
with me.

Any advice would be appreciated.

BTW, since everybody's been raving about the "kong" toy, I plan
on getting one for my "fozzy bears" for Xmas. I hope they like it.

-- 
 ____________________________________________________________
| Gary Merrick                System/Network Admin from Hell |
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|____________________________________________________________|
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Subject: Re: Hardwood Floors and Dogs
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:29:32 GMT

> Anne Beck writes:
> From article <1992Dec17.222315.8779@inel.gov>, by kte@INEL.GOV (Kathryn L
> Cook):
> > We're remodeling our older house and would like to remove the carpet and
> > refinish the hardwood floors.  My only concern is how this might affect
>
> The best dog floors I've ever seen are tile.  You know, the really
> expensive, beautiful, slightly rough quarry tiles?  My breeder


My carpets will need replacing soon, and I had another idea for what I would
replace them with: Resilient Flooring...you know, the rubbery stuff that is
used in kitchens and bathrooms instead of hard Linoleum? The neat thing about
R.F. is that I've seen it in every imaginable colour and pattern, even
finishes that imitate hard wood floors! Most of the ones I've seen do NOT
have a smooth finish, but have a slightly bumpy texture...they are much less
slippery than smooth flooring. They also don't get too cold to walk on in
winter, cool, but never COLD. Cleaning couldn't be easier, just use a wet mop
and let them air dry, most of them do not need to be waxed. Tough? You bet! I
doubt they would ever get marked by doggie nails...the stuff in my kitchen is
OOOOLD, but you can't tell by looking at it. For the comfort of the PEOPLE in
the house, I plan on getting an area rug or two for the living room and such.

Has anybody else tried this, does it work as well as I think it will?

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 07:41:01 -0800
From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: Re: Netiquette
Comment-To: mlhb@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Reply-To: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
X-FSC-PATH: 202/703 701
X-FSC-PID:  RA 0.04

 > Really Elaine?  Inadvertant?  Nobody will believe that for a
 > moment as we
 > all know the rn program and email are two distinct programs
 > and you would have to
 > specify the file name.  Perhaps your system is different, but
 > I doubt it.
 > 
 > Look, maybe I haven't made myself as clear the last time I
 > emailed a gentle
 > warning, but nobody likes a self-righteous snob.  Your
 > information is many
 > times errroneous and sounds like it should be taken as the
 > gospel truth.  Most
 > people, including myself, tend to tone our advice down as
 > just that: advice.
 > Think of all the damage you will cause if a new person who
 > comes on r.p.d
 > with a problem and you give them your diatribe which is
 > actually opinions in
 > the guise of facts.  If you haven't noticed, I usually give
 > them my opinion
 > and say that my advice has worked for me in the past, but I
 > also tell them to
 > consult a professional (vet, trainer, etc).
 > 
 > Just a thought.
 > 
  God help the person with minority opinions, huh?  So now in
addition, I am also a liar.  Yeah, that's it.  I'm Lying when I tell
people that I have only limitted access to net mail.... that from
here, it's not private by any means, and it passes through several
hands before it every reaches the newgroup.
  So it Couldn't Possibly be that there is more than one way to look
at things.  No, that couldn't be right, 
'cause now in addition to All my other shortcomings, I am also a liar.
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kte@INEL.GOV (Kathryn L Cook)
Subject: Hardwood Floors and Dogs
Reply-To: kte@INEL.GOV (Kathryn L Cook)
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Lab
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:23:15 GMT

We're remodeling our older house and would like to remove the carpet and
refinish the hardwood floors.  My only concern is how this might affect 
my dogs.  They love to run and chase each other all over the house and
I'm worried that the new floors will be to slick and they may hurt themselves.
I also once heard that slick floors can agravate/cause? hip dysplasia.
I've also heard that the dogs may scratch the floors although I keep their
nails trimmed back. Does anyone have experience with dogs on hardwoods is
this a bad idea?


Thanks for any insights,

Kayti and the Border Terriers
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From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dog's a Couch Potato...Only when Noone's around...Help!
Date: 11 Dec 92 16:00:01 GMT
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 > 
 > Well, i am really glad that is your opinion.  I suppose that
 > you think it is
 > not worth trying to teach your dog to not urinate in the
 > house, because you
 > cannot be there all the time to "make him"???  How about dogs
 > that try to 
 > eat things off the counters when nobody is home?  Should we
 > just not bother
 > training them at all?
 > 
 > I'm sorry, but your posts havebeen totally pissing me off. 
 > You give all these
 > opinions of yours as if they were facts and they are NOT.  
 > 
 > *sigh* Makes me wonder why I even bother.
 > 
  Ordinarily, I would not mind discussing tthi mmatte.  I am
interested in discussion, but don't enjoy having someone Swear at me. 
I don't care to hear about your urine.
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kkv@inel.gov (Jamie J Ferguson)
Subject: Dog laws
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 22:50:17 GMT



The town I live in has a weird law about dogs, and I was wondering if
this is common or not.  If you own more than 2 dogs over 6 months of
age you have to get a "kennel license" -- this applies whether or not
you are a breeder (which I am definitely not).  To get this license you
have to ask everyone who lives within 100 feet of your property line
to sign a petition saying they have no objections to your getting this
license.  If 75% of these people sign it then you pay $25 for a kennel
license which is good for one year.  This whole process, including the
petition and the $25, must be repeated each year.  I wonder what would
happen if someone had 3 or more dogs and their neighbors refused to 
sign the petition?  I personally would sue the city.

In any case, is this a weird local law or does this occur all over?  I
just got my last signature last night to reach 75% (I only had one
person say no, and I may ask why if I ever see her again -- but right
now I don't need her signature), so at least I'm done for this year.

By the way, there is no corresponding law for cats.


Jamie

the pack:  Kenzie   -- 1 yr old black Lab X
           Meggin   -- 8 month old Australian Shepherd X
           Harrison -- 4 month old Border Collie X
the herd:  Kieri -- 5 1/2 yr old lilac point Siamese
           Zak   -- 5 1/2 yr old blue point Siamese
           Duke  -- 1 yr old seal point Siamese



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privately owned rights.  No specific reference constitutes or implies
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Government or the Idaho National Engineering Laboratory.  The views and
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United States Government or the Idaho National Engineering Laboratory,
and shall not be used for advertising or product endorsement purposes.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: prkenne@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (CAROL SHARP)
Subject: Re: Dogs and bedding
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 16 Dec 1992 09:03 EST  

In article <168BEC3EF.ALI00JEV@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU>, ALI00JEV@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU (Judith Van Noate) writes...
>>Several threads in this group have been talking about sleeping
>>arrangements for dogs, and most people say "and of course a blanket".
>>I would like to put a blanket or carpet in our dog's cage, but
>>he shreads anything I put in their with him.  I make sure that
>>he has plenty of toys, but he inevitable turns to the blanket,
>>even at night.
>>Currently he sleeps on the bare metal tray that sits in the bottom of the
>>cage (don't worry, he's plenty warm).  Any suggestions?  Should
>>I put something in their and replace it as he shreds it?  Won't


Have you considered trying bed sheets?  Since they typically have a much 
tighter weave, the chewing might not hurt it -- at least not as badly as 
blankets!

Carol
From: kkeating@acsu.buffalo.edu (Kelly Anne Hinkle)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Opal's Inferiority Complex
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:11:49 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

In article <1gr53iINNhfj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gail E. Brookhart) writes:
>
>This is going to sound strange but I bet that it works...
>
>Treat Jessica and Opal like they are both members of a pack of 
>dogs at your house.  Praise Opal before you correct Jessica.

This actually sounded like a good idea, except the things Jessica tends to get
into are things like putting electrical cords in her mouth, or trying to do
underwater breathing in the dog's waterdish with not scuba equipment!  I've
babyproofed the place very well, but there are certain things that I want J to
learn that are off limits, perios, like Opal's waterdish.

Thanks for all the advice and input.  We're leaving tonight for 2 weeks, so if
you reply or send mail I won't get it til early Jan.

Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year and Happy Hannukah!

Kelly, Jessica, Opal...oh, and my husband, Steven, too!  ;)
From: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: want info on Australian Shepards
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:49:33 GMT
Reply-To: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Distribution: na
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH

In article <1992Dec14.222929.17201@cs.wisc.edu> worrall@scrap.ssec.wisc.edu
(Thomas Worrall) writes:
>Any owners or fanciers of Australian Shepards out there.  I am trying to 
>research the breed and our local library and kennel club have not much
>information on them.  The local breeders I've talked to are farmers and
>have different interests about their outdoor workers as opposed to our 
>indoor pet.
>
 I couldn't find the address for the Australian Shepherd Club Of America (the
"parent" club of the breed), but you should be able to get it from the AKC.
The Aussie is eligible to be shown in the Misc class at AKC conformation
shows, and at AKC obedience, tracking and herding instinct tests (I think).
Anyway, I found a breeder in WI that should be able to provide you more
information (I assume you bought the pup whose parents you fell in love
with!). The breeder is Marie Murphy in Hager City WI, phone 715/792-5174. (Not
a personal referral, just a name in the DOGS USA annual).

Order "All About Aussie"  by Hartnagel, Alpine Publishers, 1985  from Direct
Book Service (800-776-2665) for $26.95.

Also, the ASCA should have literature on the breed & club.

Good luck....
Marget Johnson, Windwagon Newfoundlands

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From: audi@tellabs.com (Audi McGee)
Subject: Re: Xmas Puppies (again) :-(
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Keywords: na
Organization: Tellabs, Lisle, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:59:19 GMT
Expires: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 06:00:00 GMT

In article <1gevdnINNbku@nigel.msen.com> dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski) writes:
>schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu wrote: : You'll never believe what *I* saw in
>the paper... 
>
>: a local dog club had put a classified in the local paper in the PEts
>: classified section that said

>: A DOG ISN'T JUST FOR CHRISTMAS!

this is a very true statement.

>: signed Local Club...
>
>: I was happy to see that...made my heart glad, now if it gets
>: through some folks heads, that's different, but someone is
>: TRYING...

>: Makes me sick too...I saw tons of the "will hold for Christmas"
>: ads...:(

>: Kay & Crew
>:  

>Not all people with young pets at Christmas time are bad.  Last year

nor are all people who adopt at christmas time, or should i
save around christmas time. but for the most part it
is better to wait and be sensible, not emotional.

>I had Christmas kittens,  because I won't place a kitten until they are
>at least 12 weeks old.  My kittens went with a crate (which they were

this is good. :)

>used to) regular kitten instructions, food for 2 weeks. litter. litter
>box, scoop, bowls and special Christmas ans your new kitten instructions.

this is great. :)

>Oh yes, an unconditional guarantee that I would take them back for any reason.

now this is perfect! :)

>They either had to go at least 1 week before or wait until after the holiday.

we adopted our first dog 5 yrs. ago from a humane society named
hinsdale humane society, and thier policy is to close completly
down 2 weeks (might be 1 week, can't remember for sure) BEFORE
christmas and until AFTER the new year, i wish they all
would do that.

>I cringe too when I see the ads, but with most of them, I cringe year round.

my husband has mondays off and he was watching some "home" type
of show, you know, sorta like a talk show, anyhow he was really
upset about one of the guests, this guy was some sort of 
"animal specialist" and was giving out some good advice on
caring for pups and kittens but the last part was what got
my husband going, he said that pups and kittens make the
perfect christmas gifts...EEK! maybe in some households
like most of ours on the net, yes, but to advertise this
to the general public was sheer stupidity! 

all we can do is keep educating people we know or meet
and keep stressing the point that puppies and kittens
grow up into DOGS and CATS. that they are lots of work
and commitment, and they are for life.

i too cringe when i see these adds.

audi

>Karen
>


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From: marshall.1@nd.edu (Amy Marie Marshall)
Subject: Moving to So. Calif with dog
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:12:48 GMT

My finace and I are moving to Southern California (Univ of Cal Riverside)
and would appreciate any information on the following.  We have a
4-year-old pointer who has lived with me in my small apartment since I
found her at the Humane Society 3 years ago.

We would like to look for quarters in the Riverside or San Bernardino areas
and would welcome any comments about apartment/townhouse complexes that are
well-kept and also allow pets (Penny weighs 50+ pounds and has not been a
problem in any of the apartments I have lived in).  We would like to rent a
single-family home, perhaps in the mountains, but do not know if an
affordable one will be available.  We are attempting to narrow our search
as much as possible, as we will have only 2 days to look at places--we will
fly out in January to find a place, and Chris will live there alone from
February until May, after which we will be married and the 3 of us (Chris,
Penny, myself) will finally live in the same state, not to mention the same
house!

We would also appreciate any info on vets and kennels in the area (positive
or negative). 

Also, if you are from the So. California area and respond to this post, I
would appreciate any email on the area in general, i.e., neighborhoods to
avoid, etc.

Thanks so much!

Amy Marie Marshall
Univeristy of Notre Dame
Dept of Economics and Office of Univ. Computing
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