HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jnv@cl.cam.ac.uk (Neil Viljoen)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Sparc+Car forsale
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:19:51 GMT
Reply-To: jnv@cl.cam.ac.uk
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From: eo@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Emma Osman)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Those league tables
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:27:32 GMT
Reply-To: eo@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Emma Osman)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

In article <1992Nov20.101056.2573@infodev.cam.ac.uk> rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) writes:
>The copy in my Grauniad of yesterday listed 5 Cambridgeshire schools
>called "The Village College" (they simply omitted the name of the
>village, which is part of the address).
>
>While I wasn't actually expecting much enlightenment from these
>curious "statistics", I would love to know whether this was just a
>Guradina-ism, or whether the DES-published list makes the same
>boo-boo.  And no, I'm not going to encourage them by asking for a copy
>for myself...
>--

It was the DES - as well as a few other insignificant little mistakes like
recording a school with 100% pass rate as 16% (mind you, the school in
question probably bumped their pass rate up by not letting anyone sit it
who they thought would fail , but not by *that* much!)

Emma



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From: rwb@castle.ed.ac.uk (Richard Bingham)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Was: Re: 29 Feb 2000?; Now: Gregorian Calendar
Date: 20 Nov 92 10:09:26 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Dept. of Veterinary Pathology, University of Edinburgh

In <Bxyurt.F5t@cck.coventry.ac.uk> cmh004@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Dave) writes:


)>  No I was right the second time. As the 'new' calander wasn't thought up by
)>  a few people in a pub on 2/9/1752 who thought it would be a good idea to
)>  wake up the next day on the 13th. The 'new' calander was in planning for
)>  several years. The transfer was, day after 31/12/1751 is 1/1/1752 and the day
)>  after 2/9/1752 is 13/9/1752. So it would be the months of January and Febuary
)>  1751 which would not exist plus the first 24 days of March 1751.
)>  -- 
)>  Dave                                                       cmh004@cck.cov.ac.uk
)>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
)>  Call this place what you like - Coventry University, Coventry Polytechnic or
)>  Lanchester Polytechnic it is all the same and is called school.

Eh???  They must teach a different form of arithmetic in Coventry to
that which my school taught me more than 30 years ago... 

The only missing days I can see there are those between 2/9/1752 and
13/9/1752, hence the "Give us back our eleven days" protesters.  I
also understood that the "Twelve Days of Christmas" originated from
those missing days.

Richard

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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: gdg019@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Ridley McIntyre)
Subject: Re: Scallops
Organization: Pig Heaven, Coventry, UK
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:51:23 GMT

In article <722100594snx@klaatu.demon.co.uk> steve@klaatu.demon.co.uk writes:
>In article <722018515.25605@minster.york.ac.uk> andrew@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
>>
>>I come from Sheffield and my fiancee (whose from Surrey) loves scraps which
>>they don't get where she lives.
>>
>>-Andrew
>
>What intrigues me is:  What do all the chippies which don't give away
>the scraps actually *do* with them?  *Surely* they don't throw them
>away, do they?  It doesn't bear thinking about.

I've just realised what it is you're talking about! In the chip shop near
my old secondary school in London, they used to sell chips with what they
called "cacking" (Crackling). This seems to be the scraps you're talking
about. This is the same place that used to sell barbecue sauce with their
chips, too, and pouring barkoo sore over your cacking and chips was a
lunchtime delight for many of us...

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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: sb380@city.ac.uk (HOLT A D)
Subject: Re: 29 Feb 2000?
Organization: The City University
Distribution: uk
Date: 17 Nov 92 08:18:41 GMT

peter@serv2.essex.ac.uk (Peter Allott) writes:

>Will there be a 29 Feb 2000?
Yes

>The cal program thinks so!
It's correct

>As it also thinks 29 Feb 4000 will exist It's clearly wrong
Probably won't exist - but only because it is unlikely that another
2000 years will pass without the calender being reorganised.

>What is the correct rule? Do all countries agree???? 
Leap year every fourth year, except
  Not in the century years (1900, 1800, 1700), _except_
    There is a leap year every fourth century (2000, 2400, ...)

Andy

Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: mt@kram.demon.co.uk (Mark Turner)
Subject: Re: UK Time Servers ? 
Distribution: world
Organization: Demon Systems / Demon Internet
Reply-To: mt@kram.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.18)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:59:59 +0000

In article <BxMGw9.7Ew@exnet.co.uk> dhd@exnet.co.uk writes:
>In article <dhs.721577645@issun3> dhs@is.city.ac.uk (David Sheryn) writes:
>>Do any sites in the UK offer a publicly accessible time service, or are
> prepared
>>to enter into a bilateral agreement?
>
>I'd like to know if there is, but in the meantime I have the number of
>a V22b modem in Sweden that gives Atomic time in ASCII...

Damon, you should be able to get the time from us using XNTP when you
connect using IP. Once you're on the Internet there's loads of public
access time servers.

Regards,

Mark.

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From: clive@x.co.uk (Clive Feather)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: 29 Feb 2000?
Date: 18 Nov 92 06:54:52 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: IXI Limited, Cambridge, UK

In article <6448@sersun1.essex.ac.uk> alan@essex.ac.uk writes:
> OK: You're utterly blind to the way our adopted calendar has worked for
> centuries.

And so are you.

> It isn't just a matter of checking divisibility by 4 - there are at least
> 3 orders of correction, and I thought there were 4.
> Until yesterday, I believed the complete rule was
[wrong rule omitted]
> But according to a colleague who checked the Encyclopeadia Britannica,
> the rule is
[another wrong rule omitted]

The *correct* place to check is the New Calendar Act 1751, which is
still in force (don't just believe me - check "Statutes in Force" at
your local library). It clearly gives the rule as:

    If year divisible by 400, then leap year,
    else if year divisible by 100, then common year,
    else if year divisible by 4, then leap year,
    else common year.

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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: johnk@harlqn.co.uk (John Kamp)
Subject: Off Site Tape Storage
Organization: Harlequin Limited, Cambridge, England
Distribution: uk
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:21:34 GMT

I am currently looking into storing computer tapes off site for
disaster prevention. I am looking into all areas of storage; from
storing tapes at peoples houses, bank safety deposit boxs,
professional computer media storage etc..

I am curious to know what other people are doing to store computer
tapes off site. Do you use another office within the company, take
things home? What sort of cycle period do you use? I will summarize
any results on the net.

For those in the UK:

Basically I am having trouble finding people who provide a full
archived storage system and who can keep track of all that goes in/out
and can provide transport. Is there anyone out there that use's such a
company? The only one I can track down is Group 4 Securitas who
provide environmentally controlled storage, security, pickup/delivery
etc...

We are based in Barrington, about 7 miles out of Cambridge, so
somewhere local would be useful, but any information or contacts for
such a service anywhere in the UK would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

John Kamp
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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: cei352@cck.coventry.ac.uk (The Freak)
Subject: Re: TV licence authorities get wrists smacked
Organization: Coventry University, Coventry, U.K
Distribution: uk
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:04:44 GMT

In article <20216@acorn.co.uk> agodwin@acorn.co.uk (Adrian Godwin) writes:
>
>There's an article in today's (Wednesday) Guardian (back page, main section) about
>a chap in Edinburgh (no, not Graham) who's _WON_ a court case against the TV
>licence authorities. Seems they tried to insist on searching his house because they'd
>senn a 'flickery light' there, and the judge reprimanded them for it!
>
> Oh,my poor heart bleeds for them,me thinks not.I,and quite proudly so,do not
own a television licence,mainly due to the fact that my television blew up
about a month ago.....its sods' law,especially when the new series of Have I 
got News for You has begun its umpteen week run.Prior to this though,I still
didnt have a licence.I kept a television licence application form by the side
of my television,already filled out,and incase any welcome TV detector men 
happened to call in,I would have simply said I had the form and was going 
to post it tomorrow.Whether they would have believed me though i do not know..
  Is it true though that they cannot fine you on the spot.? I have heard that
  you must obtain a licence within 7 days of yourself being caught in order
  to escape prosecution.? Can anyone enlighten me as to the validity of this.?
  
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From: des@frogland.inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd)
Subject: Re: `Guards! Guards!' on BBC Radio
Organization: INMOS architecture group
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 09:57:21 GMT

In article <nrp.722095653@reading>, nrp@csug3.cs.reading.ac.uk ("Traitorous bird climates" Neilski) writes:
>jane@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jane Hesketh) writes:
>>BBC Radio 5 is medium wave only. It was set up to be for kids,
>>...
>>It has rapidly been taken over
>>as a sports frequency on the quiet, as far as I can see
>I thought it was always supposed to be a sports & kids channel, i.e. when
>there's no sport, put some kids' stuff on.

i think its being taken over by sports as no-one was listening to the
rest of the programs and it also had no real identity ... i.e. on
the hour sports news coming in the middle of childrens programs etc.

its been sort of relaunched as the sports station which, it appears,
seems to be helping it maintain an identity ... a few months ago there
were fairly rumours that to pacify the R4LW brigade that it would be
scrapped and turned into the news channel.


> RADIO CRACKER - 103.6 FM 

if that's the radio cracker project that i think you mean ... good luck!

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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: gdg019@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Ridley McIntyre)
Subject: Re: 29 Feb 2000? 
Organization: Pig Heaven, Coventry, UK
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:38:21 GMT

Thanks for all the info... Now enough already! I now know the truth behind
the myth. A bit like discovering that everything you learn in Secondary
school physics is a lie (Centrifugal force, anyone?), I have learned that
I know nothing about leap years. Not to worry. It was one of those days
when I made that original "Of course it's a f*cking leap year, ya eejit"
remark, and I now fully retract it.

*sob* *sob* I feel so dumb... *sob* *sob*

8*)

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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: jc@fulcrum.co.uk (John Callingham)
Subject: Pavements
Organization: Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Birmingham, England
Distribution: uk
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:23:39 GMT

Does anyone know the definition of a pavement (the legal one, not the
dictionary one). I ask because I was nearly run over this morning by a
car crossing the pavement from a drop kerb to enter a drive. I thought
I was still on the pavement, but the driver seemed to think that he
had priority because he was still on the road.
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From: smith@canon.co.uk (Mark Smith)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Newsgroup filtering in the U.K.
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:50:55 GMT
Organization: Canon Research Centre Europe Ltd

csc280@cent1.lancs.ac.uk (I S Brandon Esq) writes:
> Does anyone know who is responsible for deciding which groups get
> filtered out, and how I could contact them.

This raises an interesting point.  My understanding is that in 
the past, UKnet has censored certain newsgroups because of fears 
over either illegality or tabloid publicity.  Given that UKnet 
was at one time the only gateway of any significance into the UK, 
I could sympathise with their concerns to some extent.  They would
almost certainly be in the position of being considered the Chief
Pornographer or Prime Mover or whatever.  But now that UKnet is
only one of the service providers, and might be just one of many
players in the commercial IP business within a few years, surely 
it's time to rethink this policy?  If others can now provide a full 
and uncensored feed into the UK, why can't they do it?  If anything, 
by continuing to censor, they may potentially make things worse for 
the people providing a complete news service if there are problems.  

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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: rpt@edscom.demon.co.uk (Richard Tomlinson)
Subject: Re: car insurance scam
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:48:33 GMT

In article <BxyM6n.8Aw@eonsw.demon.co.uk> ian@eonsw.demon.co.uk (Ian Leonard) writes:
>>Anyone care to join me in hating insurers?
>
>Yes me. My modem got zapped by lighting. I tried to claim. They are 
>refusing because although I don't connect to any customers or earn
>any money from the modem (I just read the news and a bit of email), I
>may read an article which is helpful in my work. It should therefore
>be covered by a business policy. They are right in their logic but
>the frightening thing is the way they questioned me. They were looking
>for an escape and they continued until they found one. This concerns
>me because they can use the same tactics to squirm out of something
>really important.
>

Don't let them get away with it. As far as I can tell, they are talking
complete boll***s. Threaten to sue them in the county court - if it's less
than L1000 you can use the small claims procedure, which is relatively
straightforward.
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From: snail@lsl.co.uk
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Coventry vs. London/etc
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:57:43 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd., Cambridge

In article <BxyH0o.9Ms@fulcrum.co.uk>, davidw@fulcrum.co.uk (David Wilkinson) writes:
> I think one of the main problems is that the locals drive on and off
> it quite confidently, whilst the strangers in town dither at all the
> junctions wondering which way to go and why all these cars are coming
> at them - each much to the irritation of the other, each getting in
> each others way. In this respect, it's not very different to most
> other road systems.
> 
> I can think of many places I hate driving much more than Coventry ring road.

I remember my introduction to the North Circular was like a baptism of fire,
they don't pull away that fast, but it's not unusual to do 70 in 40 zones, and
that freaked me out.

Cambridge is odd the other way. People pull away very quickly and are quite
aggressive, but the top speed is no where near as high as London.
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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: apj003@cck.coventry.ac.uk (James W Bottomley)
Subject: Re: Coventry vs. London/etc (was Re: humor in England)
Organization: unorganized
Distribution: uk
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:56:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.130949.1853@impmh.uucp> dsg@impmh.uucp (Dave Gordon) writes:
>In <Bxv9zp.J2w@cck.coventry.ac.uk> apj003@cck.coventry.ac.uk (James W Bottomley) writes:
>>
>>As regards the architecture in Coventry, all I can say is that it grows
>>on you. And the roads do work well, despite looking like hell.
>         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>No they don't!  Coventry's attempt at a ring-road is a complete disaster;
>there's hardly enough distance for cars to get on to it, while avoiding
>those crossing their paths to get off it.  The only other one I know
>that's worse is Reading, which is built to the same plan, but was only
>ever half-completed; for a long time one flyover section just stopped
>in mid-air!

As a regular user, I can only say that once you know how to use it it
does work well - it just requires the panache of Lawrence of Arabia, the
power and stamina of Daley Thompson and the devil-may-care insouciance of
Cyrano de Bergerac. Plus you mustn't worry too much about things like
car insurance. :-)

But seriously, I find, and I think most Coventry people do, that it works
exceptionally well after an initial pain/learniing barrier. The trick is
not to hesitate when entering or leaving and not to brake sharply. Of
course, it is difficult to handle for newcomers. Some days you are just
whizzing round it in the usual daze only to be confronted by a `learner'
who appears to be completely stationary in the transfer lane frozen in
a state of catatonic panic.
>
>BTW, I don't dislike the rest of Coventry, but I think anyone who picks
>out the road system as a "feature" must be thinking of a different city!

There's not much in Coventry but road systems!

>
>ABTW, I think London's road system is dreadful too!
>-- 

Well it works pretty well in places. I suppose the comparison with Coventry
is something like Birmingham with the tight curvy inner ring road with
thousands of half-crazed drivers hurtling around it with total precision
weaving around newcomers wetting themselves with fear...

Should this discussion continue as `Road systems in different towns' ?
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From: S.S.B.Glover@bradford.ac.uk (SSB GLOVER)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: 29 Feb 2000?
Date: 19 Nov 92 12:06:04 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 92909131@ccw301
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

John Callingham (jc@fulcrum.co.uk) wrote:
 
: Has any one else noticed that people talk about `the year two
: thousand', compared with `nineteen ninety nine'.
: --

[bit about nomenclature of next century's first decade lost...]

I seem to remember the expression "The earlies" being used in a book on
19th C Indian History (OK, so it was a "Flashman" book -- GMcDF tends to
do his research...)

As to spoken year names, I reckon it'll be two thousand... two thousand and
nine, twenty ten...

Steve G
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From: mt@kram.demon.co.uk (Mark Turner)
Subject: Printing on Carrier Bags?
Distribution: world
Organization: Demon Systems / Demon Internet
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.18)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:30:50 +0000

I'm looking for someone who can either produce a carrier bag with custom
text on or somehow print text onto an existing carrier bag. This is a
one off and very low volume requirement, i.e. only one bag needed.

Can anyone point me in the right direction please?

Thanks,

Mark.

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From: zzatsjl@uts.mcc.ac.uk (Janusz Lukasiak)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Stamp Question
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:32:54 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre, Manchester, England, M13 9PL.

>>In article <BxJp7w.4oJ@cen.ex.ac.uk> DKSmith@msor.exeter.ac.uk (David
>>Smith> writes:A
>   Although many of the stamp collecting companies are genuine and do sell
>   the stamps abroad, there are several companies who use this method to
>   defraud the post office. The stamps are placed into chemicals which 
>   disolve the glue  [....] 
This chemical is H2O (water).
>   [...] They are then placed into solvent which removes the franking
>   mark from the front.
I'm afraid I cannot offer any hints on this one.
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From: mt@kram.demon.co.uk (Mark Turner)