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From: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: H202, OXYGEN, OZONE...
Date: 19 Aug 1992 22:44:07 GMT
Reply-To: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Originator: pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu


{follow-up to a reprint of a quack pamphlet singing the praises of hydrogen peroxide as the cure to all illness, when taken internally}

When I was researching my PhD thesis ("DNA damage mediated by photodyn-
amically-produced active oxygen", or words to that effect) at Rice 
University, someone brought me a similar pamphlet they'd found on an 
airplane. We found the whole thing absolutely hilarious. To us graduate 
students it was a joke, like our discovery that Michael Jackson was 
sleeping in a hyperbaric oxygen chamber so he would live forever, when 
in fact sleeping in a hyperbaric chamber will make you old before your 
time, if it doesn't kill you outright. (Maybe he slept in it, but just 
never turned it on? ;-) ) 

Hydrogen peroxide is sufficiently toxic to humans that enzymes exist for 
no other purpose than to protect us from this poison. These enzymes (as 
you might guess from my thesis title) help us by protecting the integrity 
of the body's large molecules against damage caused by toxic oxygen 
compounds. They prevent a lot of cancer, mutations, some heart disease, 
etc. In fact, you can even buy "dietary supplements" of some of these
enzymes in health food stores, for big bucks, if you don't care that
expensive enzymes turn to plain old amino acids in the stomach.

Adding hydrogen peroxide to one's diet is so stupid, it's funny, unless 
you think too much about the poor fools who buy into this stuff. Then 
it's just depressing.

Paula Burch
pburch@bcm.tmc.edu
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From: lamontg@carson.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Newsgroups: sci.med,sci.psychology,alt.support,alt.recovery
Subject: EXTREMELY IMPORTANT:  MAOIs and Depression
Date: 22 Aug 92 22:16:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug22.221610.17897
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'

I need to get in touch with anyone that has taken any of the following
medications for clinical depression or dysthymia:

phenelzine (Nardil)
tranylcypromine (Parnate)
isocarboxazid

These are all monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOIs).  Patients on these
medications cannot eat cheese or drink wine and have to follow other dietary
restrictions.  They are not standard tricyclic antidepressants or other
reuptake inhibitors like imipramine, desipramine or fluoxetine (Prozac).
I am not intersted in patients that have been treated with these latter drugs,
I am interested only in depressed or dysthymic patients treated with MAOIs.

The purpose of this is to gather data for publication about a new
classifaction of depression.  All names will be held confidential.  You
can mail me through ap.2187@cupid.sai.com if you do not wish to reveal
your name to me, however I cannot guarantee the security at cupid.sai.com.

Please reply via e-mail.
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Request for Information: CMV
Keywords: Layman's terms... please.
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:29:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: pitt.16126
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <Aug.18.10.46.20.1992.20712@pilot.njin.net> birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag) writes:
>
>	I have been told in recent days that CMV has a tendency to remain
>in someone, latent or inactive, and reactivate if their immune system drops
>or if the CMV is transferred into someone else's body.  I've also been told
>that I may not be immune to CMV, and may only have an inactive case of it.
>
If you weren't immune to CMV, you would be *DEAD*.  It is true that
CMV will remain with you and if your immunity becomes compromised
(for example, if you had AIDS) it could blossom forth, but generally
it does not bother you anymore once you get over it.  You should
not be contagious once you have gotten over the initial
infection.  There is no way currently to completely eliminate
it from your body.
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Subject: Smartdrugs
From: Leon.Ubags@f211.n500.z2.fidonet.org (Leon Ubags)
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:03:35 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 2:500/211 - Dutch Health Bbs, Apeldoorn

Is there anyone who can tell me more about socalled smartdrugs or has 
experience in using them e.g. Hydrazine,Phenylanaline and so on ?



 

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From: george@ibmpcug.co.uk (Michael Veltman)
Subject: Re: Hernia Surgery via laparoscopy?
X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this article are those of the author
	alone and may not represent the views of the IBM PC User Group.
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:12:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.132918.1@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> ctobias@violet.ccit.arizona.edu writes:
>I have been given the choice of having regular hernia surgery or laparoscopic
>surgery for an inguinal hernia.  Has anyone had this surgery via laparoscopy?
>Does anyone know the recurrence rates with either type?  I was told it was new
>and the surgeon couldn't give me stats because it's too soon to know.  A little
>scary to risk something new, but it sounds a lot easier than the big incision.
>Thanks, Cindy

Dear Cindy,

The recurrance rates are probably slightly higher in laproscopic surgery, if
there is any difference at all.

The operation takes longer and requires more skill on the part of the surgeon

The main advantages are that it is less painful than an open surgical procedure,
and that you can mobilise back to an active lifestyle much sooner than if
you have the open incision. 

Yours,

Michael

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From: u734120@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (John Lamp)
Subject: Re: Headache help
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 01:49:37 GMT

Raymond.Miller@p0.f10.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Raymond Miller) writes:

>I would like to obtain information on the proceedure known as
>TRIGEMENIAL RADIO FREQUENCY RHIZOTOMY (and similar proceedures used
>to destroy nerves in chronic headpain sufferers that do not respond to
>conventional treatments. I am one such person, going into the third year of
>unbearable pain. I know this is a drastic step, but desperation brings us
>places we never thought possible.
>     What type specialist does this? Neurosurgeon perhaps? How sucessful
>is the proceedure effective? what are the risks to the recipient? Anything
>else I should know before proceeding?
>     Thanks to all for any help.
>        Raymond Miller
>        Amherst, New York

Hi - I am a registered nurse in Tasmania. I work in neurosurgery. Don't know
that procedure but trigeminal nerve has three branches on face, both sensory
and motor (to muscles). You must weigh advantage of possibly losing pain
against disadvantage of possibly losing control of some facial muscles
- interfering with speech, swallowing etc Seek advice from neurosurgeon
there are some drugs that can help eg Carbamazepine.

Bernice
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From: cfaks@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Alice Sanders)
Subject: Re: Prolonged use of Ibuprofen
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 04:39:11 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

What about Lodine?  I understand it is similar to ibuprofen.  Are the
problems and risks the same?  I take about 650 mg daily for shoulder pain
(torn supraspinitis).  

ALice

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From: jburney@seamis1.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jeff Burney)
Newsgroups: sci.med,dc.general
Subject: Re: Looking for Toyota repair shop
Date: 17 Aug 92 12:52:01 GMT
Distribution: dc,md
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center

Normally I would email this but I can't find the original posters 
address.

I would VERY HIGHLY recommend Spring Auto Service in Fairfax,VA.
They are the first mechanics I have ever trusted to work on my
car(s).

The two owners were both former Toyota dealership mechanics.
Fairfax my be too far away for you but the number is 703-591-2264.

Standard disclaimers apply...

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jburney@seamis1.gsfc.nasa.gov   | Loomfong, Zowzing.
SES, Inc.  301-439-6617         |		- Holy Grail
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From: lynn@elan.Elan.COM (Lynn Gazis)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Prolonged use of Ibuprofen
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:09:25 GMT
Reply-To: lynn@elan (Lynn Gazis)
Organization: Elan Computer Group, Inc., Mountain View, CA

Stephen Matson writes:

> Seems in lupus patients Ibuprofen can cause meningitis with prolonged use.
> So even if one does not have lupus I'd stay away from it, you never know
> what they'll find out in a few years.

True of any drug, but sometimes it is still to our advantage to take
them.

> Aspirin is still the best all around pain/inflammation relief I have
> found without a prescription.

For you.  Actually, aspirin is great for pain/inflammation relief, but
it is not the best for all people.  I, for example, found that two
aspirin 3x a day caused ringing in my ears after two or three weeks
(making it not too practical for my chronic joint problems), whereas
I could take 1200 mg of ibuprofen every day for months at a time
(and 2400 mg for weeks at a time on occasion when I needed it) without
any noticeable side effect.  (I am sure the great majority of people
who might be prescribed aspirin for pain/inflammation relief don't
have my sensitivity.  But then, the great majority of people who might
be prescribed ibuprofen don't have lupus.  Both drugs are relatively
safe for most people.)

Lynn Gazis-Sax
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Subject: Re: Any info on ringworm fungus?
From: Tom.Batchelor@f222.n137.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Batchelor)
Date: 16 Aug 92 13:17:55 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:137/222


 BF> I have a friend with ringworm on her arm.  I was curious about
 BF> any info on the life cycle, side effects, and treatment of this
 BF> affliction, and info on how it spreads, or how somebody gets
 BF> it.  Thanks.  (If there is a site with info like this, I would
 BF> appreciate a nudge in the right direction.)

I had a bout with it last summer. It's a nasty fungus that comes
commonly from your animals. Watch out for cats and dogs with several
bare spots on their fur, as they may be carrying it (even though my
animals, if that's where I got it) didn't have any fur problems.

The trick to treatment is to follow the directions on the product you
use (Lotrimin, for example) to the tee. Wash the area throughly before
each application of the cream. I had it about 2 weeks longer than I
should have, because I failed to do this. Funny thing, this is many
times seen on the feet or hands... I had it on the outside of my thigh,
about 3 inches above my knee... about "fur level" if you will, to my
German Shepherd...

Good luck with this most annoying fungus...

Tom.


 
 

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From: marco@sdf.lonestar.org (Steve Giammarco)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Prozac/sleeping/alternatives
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:09:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access

My shrink had me on desipramine (tricyclic antidepressant with one
hell of a anticholinergic kick!) for Panic Disorder. Using it was
a mixed bag wrt orgasm.
 
As I approached theraputic serum levels, I noticed that my ejac-
ulate turned refrigerator white like when I was a kid (I was 36
at the time) and became very thick. The best feature, initially,
was an incredibly intensified, toe-curling, omigod-vocalizing
orgasm. The afterbuzz lasted _at least_ 10 minutes.

Then "came" the bad side: I was in the middle of a nice JO reverie,
all signals go, and suddenly I started to cum, but there was no
feeling. It's as if someone cutoff all the nerve endings that 
transmit pleasure. It scared the hell out of me. Next time it 
happened, I noticed that I maintained a steely hard erection,
so I kept up the JO. I eventually came again, WITH FEELING, a
minute or two later.
 
Once off the meds, the orgasms returned to normal :(  and still
have that translucent look :(  but they're every bit as intense
as they were before the meds :).
Z[?1;2cZ
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Subject: What is "dyspnea"?
From: Robin.Salmansohn@f715.n273.z1.fidonet.org (Robin Salmansohn)
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:59:40 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:273/715 - Alternative Lifesty, Wyndmoor PA


 "To: FORTMAPL@UDAVXB.OCA.UDAYTON.EDU ("Paul 
 
 "F:fs> I just received copies of some of my medical 
 "F:fs> records.  Most of it I
 "F:fs> understand.  I did have to look up a few words 
 "F:fs> in dictionary, but I
 "F:fs> couldn't find "dyspnea".
 
Difficulty of labored breathing, or distressed breathing caused by a heart 
attack, provoked effort, or exercise, or a hinderence in the egress an airway 
or a lung, or from an organic disease unrelated to
exertion, or inhibition of expansion of the chest. May be due kidney disease. 
Can also mean wheezing or sighing, or a shallow breathing, or
intermittant breathing, or nocturnal breathing problem, or apnea, or
an alteration in breathing. DSYPNEA.


 

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From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Kidney stones
Date: 22 Aug 92 13:24:16 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <10346.2A9247C4@stjhmc.fidonet.org> Gloria.Hayes@f330.n100.z1.fidonet.org (Gloria Hayes) writes:

>seem to explain the left side.  What is the prognosis of stones re-occuring 
>and also future problems.  I believe the term used was pyelonephritis ... Any 
>comments appreciated.
>
Pyelonephritis is a different disease entirely.  It certainly can
cause blood in the urine.  You need to clarify with the doctor
just what the diagnosis is.
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From: km@speedy.cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Are there blood thinners that don't aggravate internal bleeding?
Date: 15 Aug 92 18:58:47 GMT
Reply-To: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science Dept., University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Aug14.140855.15826@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> vulcan@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (patricia.m.chmiel) writes:

>my friend's husband insists that there are blood thinners available that
>do not cause/exacerbate internal bleeding.  So, my question is:
>is there such a drug and what company makes it?   

Not to my knowledge. "Blood thinners" act in various ways, by
disrupting the normal clotting sequence, to disrupting platelet
function, but the net effect of all of them is to discourage the
chance of clotting and encouraging the chance of bleeding. This is
because there are disruptions in blood vessels going on all the time,
and clotting is the normal process by which the blood stops things
from bleeding. So, when you inhibit the clotting or platelet function,
you are also inhibiting the body's major defense against bleeding. The
risk of bleeding from various "thinners" varies, from moderate with
something like aspirin to major with something like Coumadin
(warfarin).


 -Ken Mitchum MD
 km@cs.pitt.edu
From: dfavor@logan.tivoli.com (David Favor)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Mercury in dental fillings?
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:03:35 GMT
Organization: TIVOLI Systems, Inc.

would I eat or drink mercury? no. would I drill holes in my teeth and
pour it in there for years? no.

is it safe? asking a Dentist or the AMA about the safety of mercury seems
to me to be about like asking an insurance sales person if I need a particular
type of insurance... this seems to me to be a conflict of interest.

I went through a multi-year interviewing process looking for a Dentist to
remove the mercury from my mouth. I had no doubts when I met my current
Dentist. part of the interview went like this.

"what filing materials do you use?"
"composites, sealant and gold when necessary."

"you don't use metal amalgams?"
"NO, I use neither mercury or nickel."

"do you or your family have any amalgam in your mouths?"
"no, neither do any of my staff except one person. the only reason
this person has amalgam in her mouth is that she has just recently
joined our staff. she is scheduled to have the amalgam removed later
this week."

this was the Dentist I secured to remove all the mercury in my mouth.
From: turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Get the name right!
Date: 21 Aug 1992 13:16:51 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

-*----
In article <KPC.92Aug20161018@kronos-arclan.arc.nasa.gov> kpc@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov writes:
>        sci.med.orthodox        (steve dyer's noncritical articles go here)
>        sci.med.non-orthodox    (crystals etc. go here; flaming discouraged!)

The problem is not discussing non-orthodox treatments, but with
those who either don't know what science is or who don't like
science, and who want their views treated as science.  If we
make the above division, the names whould be:

	sci.med
	non-sci.med

(Yes, I know the latter would have to be alt.med ... which isn't
a bad name.)

Russell
From: tsf@CS.CMU.EDU (Timothy Freeman)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Pittsburgh Medical Debator wanted
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:13:36 GMT
Distribution: pa
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Originator: tsf@U.ERGO.CS.CMU.EDU

In article <16023@pitt.UUCP> km@speedy.cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:

   It doesn't sound like your debate is going to be very meaningful if
   you just want to go out and look for someone to expouse opposite
   views on things so your candidate can look good.

How can you have a debate without opposite views?  A debate between
people who agree would be pretty boring.  I have no idea how good Lord
is at debating things, so I don't know if it would make her look good.

   From my experience, Libertarians don't listen to anyone else anyway,
   so why have a debate?

I am a Libertarian interested in listening.  Do you always use
ad-hominem arguments?
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When they took the fourth amendment, I was silent because I don't deal drugs.
When they took the sixth amendment, I kept quiet because I know I'm innocent.
When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I don't own a gun.
Now they've come for the first amendment, and I can't say anything at all.
From: gw@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Gordon Wilson)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 02:16:00 GMT
Subject: hydrocele
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: sci.med

  My urologist told me that the only surgical solution for
a hydrocele (spelling?) is ambulatory sugery with general
anesthetic.  He explained that it was a cyst that was not
absorbing fluid at the normal rate.  But, when it is removed
where does the fluid then go?   His answer was that he did
not know, but the cyst does not come back.
It seems that a local anesthetic would be sufficient.
Afterall, women have babies, men are circumscribed without
a general anesthetic.  Is there any other long term solution
other than surgery with a general anesthetic?
thanks
gordon
From: John.Willis@p123.f349.n109.z1.fidonet.org (John Willis)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: Nonalcoholic beer
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 06:46:31 GMT

fod@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Frank O'Donnell) writes:

>The two MDs took very different positions.  One said
>these "near beers" were dangerous because they maintained
>a link to the alcoholic's addiction; their use was likened
>to a smoker trying to quit by switching to candy cigarettes.
>The other MD, however, took a more tolerant attitude, 
>saying he knew several people with a number of years of
>sobriety who "occasionally" drank a nonalcoholic beer at
>a party.  The opinions of the alcholics were likewise
>diverse, with some saying they would have nothing to do
>with a near beer while others said they had one now and
>then and it was no big deal.

	This seems like a good place to point out the difference
between a physical and a psychological addiction.  I am addicted
to beer, the reason being because I actually *love* the stuff.  I
love the taste, I love the smell, and I love the way it slides down
my throat.  If I could find a NA beer with the same flavor as my
homebrew, I'd drink it by the case.  I can't, so I have to watch
how much I drink, how often, and go for a week at a time without
just to test for physical addiction.

	A smoker who uses a candy cigarette is maintaining that
psychological addiction, but can still be weaned from it.  I'd
say, offhand, that this is the one to least avoid.  I know a few
people who chewed tobacco and couldn't overcome the psych
addiction easily, so they switched to a product called "Smokey
Mountain Chew", being a blend of alfalfa, herbs, and the like.
The nicotine is done with, so now they can wean themselves at
their leisure.  This is best done with the help of a psychologist.
Johnny Carson fiddled with pencils a lot, I noticed, and this is
obviously better for you than smoking, chewing, or drinking, yet
he is indeed addicted to pencil fiddling.

	Hey, I'm not an MD, PhD, or in any way qualified to make
these statements, but they seem true enough and have been espoused
by enough 'D's to make me think they are worth thinking about.

<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"There'll be angels on Ariels in leather>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | and chrome, Ridin' down from heaven    >
<viking@iastate.edu      | just to carry me home." -- R. Thompson >
< ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee. >
From: Shae Miller
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: cervical/spinal stenosis
Date: 18 Aug 92 12:25:30 GMT
Reply-To: dmiller@elli.une.edu.au
Organization: University of New England - Northern Rivers (Lismore)

Spinal stenosis is a narrowing of the spinal cord often from the
narrowing of the canal it passes through in the vertebrae, thus
giving you the symptoms you described.  Most commonly corrected
through surgical procedure called a laminectomy, which widens the
canal.

The tests that you describe are routine; the MRI will serve to highlight
the problem, and verify it.

I checked the University of Pennsylvania OPAC for a book I have that
had a good description, but it is not in the holdings.  I did note,
however, that the MEDLINE database is available.  If you desire to
search for any literature on your own, this is definitely the place
to start.

Best regards
Shae Miller

OPINIONS ARE PERSONAL AND BASED ONLY ON INFORMATION GIVEN
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