From: ccav38@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("I.Ballouz")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: Palestinian deportees turned back by Lebanese
Date: 22 Dec 92 10:30:19 GMT
Organization: University of Strathclyde

In article <CmW=RP#@engin.umich.edu> Michael F. Kamprath <kamprath@space-grant.sprl.umich.edu> writes:
>In article <BzLvn7.C7D@ccsun.strath.ac.uk> I.Ballouz,
>ccav38@ccsun.strath.ac.uk writes:
>>Mr Kamprath, whether you want to be insensitive or not is something up to you
>>really and does not have anything to do with me.
>>
>Whether or not you want to consider me insensitive is entirely up to you.  "Look
>for evil and you shall find it."
>
I am not in the business of categorizing people, who is sensitive and who 
isn't. You brought up the sensitivity issu and you know yourself better. 
And speaking of evils, it is not true that you need to look for them in order
to find them, those are ginnies that you are talking about not evils. 
You only need to look carefully and will immediately recognize evils. They are
not as good as ginnies in deception.

[  ...  ]
>
>No, of course you can't read my mind.  My question was simply:
>
[  ...  ]

Anyway, I hope you found your answers.

>>BTW Mr Kamprath, when you said above that "a country typically deports people
>>to a country that they originally came from", did you have in mind that Israel 
>>does obey the international law and you found the israeli action strange ?
>>As a Lebanese arab, with a part of my country is occupied by the israelis
>>despite all the UN resolutions and recommendations that Israel should withdraw,
>>how do you expect me to answer? And what should I read in your question?
>
>You can answer any way you please.  You obviousely chose one way of answering.
>And I chose to respond to you answer in a certain manner.  That's the beauty
>of free speech.
>
I am impressed by your answer, but where is it anyway? If I don't have to be a
telepathic, don't tell me I have to consult a fortune teller in order to find 
out what you mean..!

[ ...  ]

>Listen, I am not trying to trivialize Israel's actions, but your response to
>my questions seemd to suggest that I am not allowed to ask a question unless
>I say the Politically Correct thing first.  You are not going to find me doing
>that.
>
And I thought I suffer from poor understanding... I don't usually suggest, I say
what I want straight. But it seems that it is not my understanding that is
poor, but my writing is even worse, isn't.
The point was not about a question, it was about an insult formulated as a
question.

>Oh, and don't worry.  Your actions haven't lessened my sympathy for the people
>trapped in "no man's" land.  I don't connect your complaining about me not "properly"
>asking a question with what it really going on there.
>
Oh, of course not. My actions haven't lessened your sympathy for the deportees, 
I was always convinced you haven't got any ! These questions, can they 
seriously be considered as gestures of concerned for these deportees ?... 

BTW, it is not a "no man's land". It is ours, we have not given it up yet and
there is no plan for giving it up in the future. Called it the buffer
zone between occupied and liberated areas, call it the front line (not the
border line),...
Call it any thing you like, but not a "no man's land". It is a proper Lebanese
land.

> Michael F. Kamprath

I. Ballouz
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