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From: am3z+@andrew.cmu.edu (Albert Peter Michael)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Liking fighting
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:26:55 GMT
Organization: Senior, IM - H&SS Track, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Actually, I'm tired of seeing them put out Caufield as a goon.

I wouldn't mind seeing Mario go at it (he's a big boy,) but we do have
Tocchet, Loney, etc. for those things.

Having thought some more about it, the new rules shouldn't affect Ulfie too
much, since he doesn't really do much fighting.

Assuming the new rule does curtail the fighting, all they're going to have is
a bunch of "cheap shots," since you don't need to fight to do your policing.
This IS still hockey.
GO MURPH!
Al
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From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri Farenell)
Subject: Fights are boring
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:04:10 GMT

I've heard many comments against the instigating rule based on "Stein
is turning this into a pussy sport" (not a direct quote) and 
other similar comments.

I have one reason for disliking fighting, it's not because I'm a pacifist
or am worried about the NHL's prospects of getting a TV contract. It's
because 95% of fights are boring. Most are just guys grabbing and wrestling
each other and landing few punches to unpadded areas. They just waste time
and take for ever to clean up the ice and hand out penalties afterwards.
If you have SR tickets, a fight-marred game is even worse. Very rarely do
you get a good fight so they generally detract from the game.

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From: rajb@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Raj Bal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Fickle Edmonton Fans(Was Re: Damphouse)
Date: 29 Aug 92 06:12:33 GMT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

- team) is the fickleness of their fans. It really grinds on me that a city wit
- so many people can't get 17000 (~7-10% of the *adult* pop.) out to their
- games. If fans in Edmonton don't want a team that only occasionnally wins a
- SC but plays well enough to always be in the hunt, well that's fine by me
- they can just send it East about 4 hours, Saskatoon will show them what fan
- support means. 
- 
- Edmontonians have shown their fickleness with the Eskimos and now its coming
- out with the Oilers. It isn't surprising at all to me that their attendance
- is down, I expected it to happen once the team became only good rather than
- great.
- 
- City of Champions == City of Chumps.
- 
- > But then the Oilers aren't the Washington Capitals!
- > 
- > Gerald
- > 
- 
- Gerald "Just a little disgusted with the 'Fans' in Edmonton" Gryschuk
- --
- Gerald Gryschuk            Saskatoon,Saskatchewan = a place with 9 months
- gerry@sask.usask.ca           of hockey and 3 months of poor skating.
- Go Habs!!!

Well, I think its unfair to pick on just Oilers and the City of Edmonton. 
 Boston and just about every other team in the league also had 
considrably less people attend their games.  As far the Esks go they are 
ALWAYS supported in this town their usually well above average attendance 
and generally attract 50,000+ for at least one of their games each 
season.  As far the so called Post-Gretzky-Trauma goes I  would have to 
agree with Gerald G., its all bull. The majority of Oilers fans have 
recovered.

  One more reason that Oilers attendance is slightly down would be that 
the regular season really means NOTHING, and the Oilers as a franchise 
are always quick to point this out until it comes time to sell season 
tickets...but then the regular season is a whole different topic that i 
hope i don't get involved in..........

Raj

Raj Bal              rajb@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
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From: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Subject: Re: Pens news 8/21/92
Reply-To: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 18:56:49 GMT


In a previous article, gomer+@pitt.edu (Richard J Coyle) says:

>In article <BtCqIo.Aup.1@cs.cmu.edu> lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) writes:
>>*(I don't want to seem cynical, but I think the Pens' changing this date has
>>more to do with selling out the Islander game than it does with Yom Kippur.  
>>Funny how this change was announced AFTER Bryan Trottier left, and was 
>>rescheduled for the very first game he would be back in town.)
>
>Or, maybe Baldwin is Jewish??
>
>rick
>

I'm inclined to agree with you.  As far as Jewish holidays go, Yom
Kippur is up there, if not the biggest.  Being a Jew, though not a
practicing one, I can tell you that the whole jewish world stops on Yom
Kippur.  Plus, Pittsburgh has a large jewish population (ask my
grandmother!).  Heck, Sophie's Jewish.

So, not only would they probably not have as big as a crowd (then again,
I'm sure there's enough goyim to fill the seats), but if Baldwin is
Jewish, going to the game would be strickly verboten.  His butt will be
in Temple.
-- 
Eric Rickin (ab870@cleveland.freenet.edu)
University of Michigan Class of 1996
East Quad - Cooley
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From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: New Rules (A Sad Day for Hockey)
Date: 28 Aug 92 00:11:44 GMT
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

Gary Robishaw x5960 writes: >

Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca writes: >>

>>
>>It's going to be an ugly season!
>>
>I think you may be right, but for the wrong reason. The fighting may become
>more violent since the enforcer gets only the one chance to 'pound face'. More
>violent, and longer too.

>Refs are the key.Call the game tight and consistently. Eventually, the players
>may get the idea that the cheap shit is no longer tolerated and the game can
>become 'kinder and gentler'.

I agree that the refs have to get better, but I don't want a 'kinder
and gentler' NHL. I want a fast, hard hitting game where the violence
is within the rules [ie clean hard hitting] and the fights are between
equals. I don't want the NHL to turn into what the all-star game is --
high scoring , no-hitting hockey for crybabies like Wayne Gretzky.

If I wanted European Hockey [I think Gil Stein does] I'd renounce my
citizenship and move to Sweden.
From: mre@teal.Eng.Sun.COM (Michael R. Eisler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey,uk.misc
Subject: Re: History of British (Ice!) Hockey
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:44:03 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: teal

In article <92Sep03.161705.24494@acs.ucalgary.ca> kjgriffi@acs.ucalgary.ca (Kevin John Griffith) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.131827.3907@cs.hw.ac.uk> steve@cs.hw.ac.uk (Steve Salvini) writes:
>>"BRITISH ICE HOCKEY'S FINEST HOUR" :-)
>>
>>1936 - Feb 15th - at Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany, GB draw 0-0 with
>>USA (outdoor) after three periods of overtime.  Canada then beat USA
>>thus GB become first team to win the 'Triple Crown' - the World
>>Championship, the European Championship & the Winter Olympics Gold -
>>"British Ice Hockey's Finest Hour" :-)   Britain play under the 'shrewd
>>but controversial guidance of BIHA secretary, John F. 'Bunny' Ahearne.
>>
>
>Not to be picky, but this British team, in addition to other
>previous teams no doubt, consisted primarily of Canadians who
>at the time had claim to British citizenship also. I'm not sure,
>but I think the players decisions to play for Britain followed
>some argument with the Canadian hockey association.
>
>Kevin Griffith

Ahearne visited the CAHA's head office in Canada and got a list of
every registered player in Canada. He then extracted the players who
were born in Britain. He then recruited several to play in the British
league for $50-$60 a week. 8 of the 12 players on the British squad
were Canadian citizens, including goalie Jimmy Foster. Foster lead his
team over Canada 2-1, even though Canada outshot Britain 46-17.  As
this was a nonchampionship game, Canada got to join Britain,
Czechoslovakia, and U.S. made it to the championship round. The future
IIHF president, Ahearne argued that Britain had already beat Canada, so
didn't need to play them again. Britain won the gold with 5 wins, 2
ties, 7 games, PCT = .857, whereas Canada won the silver with 7 wins, 1
loss, 8 games, PCT = .875.

Ahearne's success in building a national Canadian team should have
taught Canada a lesson. But unfortunately, Canada didn't adopt Father
Bauer's national team until concept until it was too late. The
Kitchener-Waterloo Dutchmen lost the gold to the USSR in 1956, and then
again to the U.S. in 1960.  National squads in 1956 and 1960 might have
prevailed.
	-Mike Eisler
	mre@Eng.Sun.Com
From: hoebel@cs.rochester.edu (Lou Hoebel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Training Plans/Conditioning
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:11:10 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department University of Rochester

In article <1736@ceylon.gte.com> mch0@harvey.gte.com (Michael Hatz) writes:
>I know there must be some coaches/players out there in net-land...I was
>wondering if someone could send a comprehensive training program to include
>on/off ice and especially weight training,that they use or have implemented,
	The best overall book for weight training for novices and the more 
	experienced is Bill Pearl's "Getting Stronger". It has sections on
	pre-during and post season workouts for many sports. It has exercise
	descriptions and suggested routines.  If you're getting one book....


-- 
->Louis Hoebel
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  University of Rochester       {ames|rutgers}!rochester!hoebel
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From: vreddy@das.harvard.edu (Venkatesh Reddy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey,rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Which Team is More Popular:NBA or NHL?!
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:07:31 GMT
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University

In article <1992Aug27.115946.21279@abo.fi>, MLINDROOS@finabo.abo.fi (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:


|> -In BOSTON, the Celtics weren't popular despite winning championship after
|> championship. The Bruins were the kings of the winter despite winning only
|> two championships with Bobby Orr in the lineup. People whispered there were
|> "racial reasons" for it, and what happens? After snow-white Larry Bird joins
|> the Celts in 1979, the basketball team started winning again - this time with
|> a predominatly Caucasian lineup and all home games are sellouts. The Bruins,
|> now contenders again, have been closing the gap in recent years. Basketball
|> again.
|> 

Having beenin Boston for onlky a year, after living in a non-hockey state for
17 (South Carolina), I noticed that up here, the Bruins get more hype, 
especially around playoff time. All the radio stations and TV stations are
all over the Bruins news, and hockey seems to be bigger than basketball up
here, even if the bball games sell out all the time.

|> MARCU$
|> 
|> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> . . . Fififinlandssvensk
|>      
|> Marcus Lindroos                             Internet:     mlindroos@abo.fi
|> Computer Science
|> Abo Akademi University
|> Finland
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From: Edward.Starczewski@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Edward Starczewski)
Subject: Re: KINGS: Pat Conacher
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:35:45 GMT

In article <2AA78423.2070@news.service.uci.edu> assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site) writes:
>
>The Kings just made a deal with the NJ Devils for Pat "Bucky" Conacher
>for future considerations.  Does anyone have any background information
>on this player?
>
>
>Kris
>GO KINGS!!
>
>--
Have had the privilege of seeing pat play both in New Jersey and Utica
(New
Jerseys AHL affliate).  Pat is a Bob Gainey type of forward - works his
butt off along the boards setting up the goal scorers - but doesn't
score
much himself.

Ed Starczewski     Rome Laboratory
stare@lonex.rl.af.mil


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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: ESPN-it's about time
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: Curious Goods (formerly Louis Vendredi Antiques)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:17:56 GMT

gp2f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Gary James Patalsky) writes:
>
>It will increase U.S. exposure three fold (from 20 million to 60 
>million cable subscribers.)

Actually, the 22 Million figure for SC is slightly cooked because 
it includes homes that have access to regional pay SC's but don't
subscribe (it does include basic-level SC's like upstate New York 
and the two-tier SC Pacific of Northern California which scrambles 
for local pro games, as well as third-party networks like Turner's
SportsSouth).  The actual number of American homes that see games 
is about 16 Million (roughly the same number of sets in Canada).

gld
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From: dtasman@dante.nmsu.edu (Dan Tasman)
Subject: Re: Sam Adams ->was: TEAMS TO WATCH (Sabres - better watch quickly)
Organization: New Mexico State University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:10:00 GMT

In article <4881@balrog.ctron.com> mattb@ctron.com (Matt Brown) writes:
> And what possible connection could beer have to hockey?

"Hockey Night in Canada", sponsored by (Labatts) (O'Keefe) (Molson) 

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Tue,  1 Sep 1992 09:07:05 -0400 
From: Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Hawks Stuff


Stan Macasieb writes:

>Steve Smith and Stephane Matteau were both signed today to long-term contracts
>today.

Stan, I tried to email you but I'm not sure it went through.  Can you
tell me how old Steve Smith is, and any more details on the contract?
Thanks.
From: am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Anna Matyas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Mo' money, mo' money
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:56:03 GMT
Organization: H&SS Dean's Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Lori Iannamico writes:

>>For the record, Barrasso isn't worth that much money...
> 
>As much as I like Barrasso, I have to agree with this.  He has proven he can
>play in the playoffs, but his regular season play is very inconsistent.
> 
>I'm suprised he was given this much.  When negotiations started, it was 
>believed that he had asked for 3.9 million, and was willing to lower his 
>price.  The initial reports had him signing the multi-year contract at 1.3
>per year.  Which would be in line with his original demands.  The 3 year,
>5.2 mil contract news just broke last night, and is definitely news to me.

Barrasso was sitting in the perfect spot.  Unless Patrick had some
incredible scheme cooking to acquire a top-notch goaltender, Barrasso
was his man.  Who else???  WREGGETT???  Bringing back Frankie???

It's hard to say whether or not he's "worth" the contract.  When I think
of him in terms of my favorite goalies (Roy and Hrudey) I say he's not.
When I think of the goalies on the Pens bench, I say he is.  We're in
BIG trouble if Tommy gets hurt.

Barrasso was given much of the credit for winning both Cups (and in his
heart he must know *he* was the MVP last year).  He's got a nice contract
and things look otherwise ok.  I look for him to have a very strong
season (and I'm not the optimistic type when it comes to him).  I guess
a caveat in this prediction is how many more defensive forwards the Pens
will lose.

Mom.
From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder 432-4219)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: NHL HOLDUP
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:06:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: HMS

It seems the fools of NHL screwed up again. If you're wondering why there
has been no official followup(just a foul-up) to week-old reports of an
ABC-ESPN package,get this : Ex-President John Ziegler was seen flipping
madly through files in his old office and it seems there may have been
no formal NHL-SportsChannel America contract last season, only an
informal agreement that may give SCA a right to match ESPN's offer.

-Mark
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From: brown@odin.ins.cwru.edu (Dan Brown)
Subject: Re: Sam Adams ->was: TEAMS TO WATCH (Sabres - better watch quickly)
Organization: Subversive Student Publications un-inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 01:50:17 GMT

In an earlier posting mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown) writes:
>
>You must be thinking of Iron City, which is actually made in Cleveland from
>Flaming Cuyahoga River runoff, and aged in EPA hazardous waste drums at Three
>Mile Island.  Gives you that Pittsburgh glow. Available as a dark beer also
>(extra micro-metal shavings).

To my knowlege, Iron City isn't brewed in Cleveland. BTW, the river hasn't
burned in years, and Three Mile Island is not even in the state of Ohio.

Another beer that is not brewed in Cleveland is Erin Brau, even though it
says that it is brewed by the Cleveland Brewing Company. 

Later.
Dan


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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: New Rules (A Sad Day for Hockey) 
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: Curious Goods (formerly Louis Vendredi Antiques)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:56:04 GMT


While I'm an advocate for people to wear helmets, there are others who
can't get used to it and I'd respect their wishes to do so ... however,
given the American health insurance situation I'd think that we'll see
fewer players on this side doing it as opposed to the Canadian teams
(because our insurance [it's not socialized medicine, just insurance;
there's a huge difference] does not specify medical exemptions except
for elective surgery e.g., tit jobs).

Canucks' Pat Quinn has been a leading spokesman in the press for this
rule against premeditated fighting vs. spontaneous, but there are
still questions for me by using John Ferguson and Bob Probert as my
standards ...  Fergie could punish a guy with a few good checks for
beating on Cournoyer, but is that instigation or not when it cycles
through to fisticuffs?  There will be a grey area that will emerge, I
fear.  In principle I think that it is fine, getting rid of purposeful
goonism (supposedly) but letting tough hockey remain.  Actually, in
the Times' John Kordic piece from last Monday, even Don Cherry is
against guys who sit on the bench for the only purpose of fighting so
we know that Cherry can draw the line somewhere reasonable.  I'd say
give it a try ... my biggest concern is still the referees, and maybe
the lack of them ...

gld
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From: migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey)
Subject: Re: Baldwin in Hartford (Was: Re: Bowman says no)
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Distribution: na
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:57:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.143533.27822@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.092122.24225@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey) writes:
>>
>>In addition to being head of the New England Whalers (I once attended a
>>game of theirs against the Toronto Toros), Howard Baldwin was also 
>>president of the WHA.
>
>But Baldwin was a sleazy character even back then...Bill Hunter and
>Ben Haskin(I know I'm spelling his name wrong) are the two guys who
>made the WHA.
>
>Gerald

According to my 1977-78 hockey guide, Ben Hatskin (correct spelling) was 
Chairman and CEO of the WHA.  His name appears first, right before 
Baldwin's in the list of important people in the WHA.

Interesting names on the coaches' roll that year:
	Cincinnati:	Jacques Demers
	Houston:	Bill Dineen
	New England:	Harry Neale
	Birmingham:	Glen Sonmor
(and, of course, Glen Sather).
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From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: He shoots...
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:42:29 GMT

In article 24107@oasys.dt.navy.mil, mckinney@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Patrick Mckinney) writes:
>In rec.sport.hockey, rtiger@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>>He shoots...
>
>Puck rebounds back to him, he dekes to his backhand, he shoots and hits
>the post, and puck is sitting on the goal line...

Hackett covers...and time runs out!  No goal!

Sharks 3 Pens 0

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From: coulman@cs.Usask.CA (Randy Coulman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey,rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Rodman
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:41:56 GMT
Reply-To: coulman@cs.Usask.CA
Organization: University of Saskatchewan

In article <eoq.32.0@vthnw.cvm.msu.edu>, eoq@vthnw.cvm.msu.edu (Edward Quillen) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.190043.19466@cc.umontreal.ca> iacurtop@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Iacurto Paul) writes:
>>From: iacurtop@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Iacurto Paul)
>>Subject: Rodman
>>Date: 31 Aug 92 19:00:43 GMT
>>In article <1992Aug31.185424.19309@cc.umontreal.ca> iacurtop@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Iacurto Paul) writes:
>>>
>>>I am a big Dennis Rodman fan, but most of the people I know do not like him. 
>>>I must therefore conduct my own Dennis Rodman poll. I would like as many
>>>replies as possible
>>>
>>>Dennis Rodman is
>>>a) An all star; the best rebounder in the NBA
>>>b) A good defensif player with run of the mill offensive skills
>>>c) A goofy looking guy with big ears, who also wears the tightest pair of
>>>   shorts in the NBA.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Signe: Mr. Iacurtop 
>
>Rodman is A+B but most definately C!!!!!
>
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>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

D. Not a hockey player (see Newsgroups: line)

Randy
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