Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Loose Lips
From: billy@anasaz (Bill Moore)
Date: 4 Sep 92 07:13:58 GMT
Organization: Anasazi, Inc.  Phoenix, Az

In article <1992Sep2.144556.11189@walter.bellcore.com> mdl@phelixsalt (Michael Lynch) writes:
->
->I've been a lurker on this group for several months.  I find the subject
->matter interesting, and I suppose a part of me wants to believe that there
->have been alien "visitations."  However, I have no strong beliefs one way
->or the other.  My attitude could best be described as "show me."  My mind
->is open (at least I like to think so).  
->
->I have a question for anyone out there who cares to answer, but be 
->forewarned that it's based on my OPINIONS, so don't ask me for verifiable
->facts.  I can't supply them.
->
->I spent eight years in the military as an enlisted man, both as a grunt and
->as a sergeant.  I know how difficult it is for people to keep their mouths
->shut, even when threatened with prison or bodily harm if they talk.  The
->more important a person's perception of an incident, the more likely that
->person is to talk about it.  There's been considerable talk here about the
->Roswell incident (1947, I believe), and the military's involvement in it.
->There have been other incidents where the military was involved -- seems to
->me there was one over the Great Lakes back in the Fifties in which a couple
->of interceptors (F-89s?) were lost in a pursuit of a UFO.  I'm sure most
->of you out there know a lot more than I do about these and other UFO
->incidents with military involvement.
->
->So my question is, is it really likely that all these down-and-dirty ground
->pounders are going to keep quiet year after year if they really saw 
->something extraterrestrial?  If there is/was a conspiracy, those at the
->highest levels could eliminate a few people, perhaps (like the nurse who
->sketched the alien corpses at Roswell?), but a wholesale elimination of
->all low-level people involved simply isn't practical, or even wise.  That
->action alone would give away the conspiracy, I would think.
->
->Comments?
->
Good observation.  

With respect to Roswell, notice that MOST of th "proof" focuses on military
activity that would occur if ANYTHING happened.  Authors like to show that
this general did that and that major did the other thing but they never
support their contention that a UFO crashed.  Assume an atomic bomb fell
out of an airplane and go back and re-read everything you've seen about
Roswell.  In that exercise, the "UFO" part of Roswell is reduced to mostly
second-hand hearsay.

Note also the "strangeness" surrounding UFO "revelations" from low-level
military people.  You'd think this was a total non-secret with all the
NCO's who just happen to wander into a UFO situation.  

Look at Robert Lazar.  He's a former whore house manager (it's legal in
Nevada) with no advanced education other than a "couple of courses at Cal
Tech."  He got a job repairing gieger counters at Los Alamos and then
would have us believe Edward Teller himself decided Lazar should be the
one to analyze crashed UFOs to determine how they were powered.  He "proves"
that by showing records from the Department of Naval Intelligence citing
his earnings at $27,000 a year.  

The UFO people swallow this stuff wholesale.  One researcher, Linda
Mouton Howe, is writing a book about him.  When I asked her why she
insisted on calling him a "physicist" and "scientist" she said he was
"very bright" and formal education was not necessary for someone like him.

She'll probably sell 100,000 copies about the "top US scientist" who came
forward and "exposed" the secrets about UFOs.

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     Bill Moore     billy%anasaz.UUCP@asuvax.eas.asu.edu    (602) 395-1732
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