HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Various ramblings...
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:08:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.153054.4783@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com writes:
>
>I don't want to be mean, but it really bothers me to see these men act as if
>they had some severe deformity such that no-woman would ever want to be
>involved with them.  They are guaranteeing their own failure by acting in
>this manner and keeping themselves (and someone else) from being happy.
>
>I just became involved with someone who might easily have turned out to be
>a hermit or recluse like the men who talk about not finding girlfriends.
 
Larry? Never.
 
>
>From our conversations, I've learned that my SO was a pretty shy person as a
>boy/teenager.  He was bookish/geeky and was either ignored or mistreated by
>kids he went to school with.  He never dated in college or graduate school
>because "girls didn't want to go out with guys like [him]"  which I guess
>means that girls he went to school with preferred "jocks" or "studs" rather
>than average-looking guys with intelligence. It also seems he didn't have
>any/many female friends until graduate school.
 
Larry? Never.

>
>My SO's first relationship (which was not until he was 28 and out of graduate
>school), was with a woman he met on the net.  They lived on opposite coasts
>and saw each other only on vacations.  She broke up with him after a year or
>so.  He dated one other person who he met through a friend, and then he met
>me.
Larry? so on and so on.........
>
Larry? so on and so on.....
 
>soc.singler-ette

 
 
Mrs Margolis,
If these guy;s are in their +20's and can figure out how to use a computer
but can't figure out how to ask a girl out, nothing anyone tells them
is going to help.
incompetent and ask the net for advice you will be deluged with responses
from people who scurry on the band wagon. It makes people feel like
a) they are being helpfull.
b) It makes people feel good to think they have a broader knowledge base.
Thereby insuring lots of net responses. If we're lucky we can flay this
dead horse until the hooves turn to sand.
 The problem isn't lack of a SO it is the inability to discuss something
interesting enough to get a net response. Now if you imply you are
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Subject: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (on the net)
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:07:32 GMT

cocoa@iat.holonet.net (little 'e') writes:

] 
] My current sweetie is a net person, but not a soc.singler, so we did not
] exchange bits before meeting, but it was someone else's response to one
] of my posts that got me new friends and an introduction to someone I think
] is very intelligent and terrific.
] 
And I'll use this as a jumping-off point for a suggestion
I have made a few times, and wanted to suggest to Kevin,
and others...

You may be tired of having women be "just friends", but
you really CANNOT say that you don't want any MORE friends,
because one of them may be the one who will introduce you
to the "right person".

You meet someone through some activity - including the 'net.
You go out with them, they say LJBF - you say, fine - let
me know when there's an activity you think I'll be interested
in (be sure not to rule OUT activities ahead of time unless
you are SURE you'd never do that - eg, something illegal - 
because even if you won't DO bungee jumping or sky diving,
you can always cheer, gasp, whatever).  So you're invited
to a "do" - and meet more friends - who then invite you to
OTHER "do's" - and so on...widening your potential base of
meeting opportunities (can we say statistically larger chance
of meeting an RP, folks?).'

You may not have a lot of CLOSE friends, but you will have
FRIENDS - or even ACQUAINTANCES - who will remember you when
they are inviting people to parties.

A good way to start this is check a LOT of the local net
groups for open invitations, and start showing up.  Here in
the Bay Area we have a variety of things happening fairly
regularly.  And if you DON'T have things happening - put
one on yourself.  Start with a gathering at a park - you'd
be surprised at the response.  Even if only one other person
shows up - post that you had a good time, and were sorry 
that others couldn't share.  Next time - you'll get more
people.

My first $.02.  There may be more...

Diana
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Ugly hands
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 11:07:29 GMT

In article <l93595INN2l8@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> lemay@lorelei.Eng.Sun.COM (Laura "Treekiller" Lemay - IWTFM) writes:
>> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>> >Instead of distinct heart and head lines, I've got a simian crease,
>> >one line running straight across from the radial to the ulnar edges.
>
>
>That means you're a serial killer.

Thank you for reminding me why I don't take palmistry seriously.  Actually
it means that I have slightly more affinity for bonobos than most folks.
It *might* mean that I lack a certain amount of independent mobility in 
my index finger.  However, I measured my opposability index and got a
result of 67, much to my relief!  B-)>

>A friend-of-a-friend read the palms of a bunch of us a couple 
>weeks back at lunch and explained that on the left hand on men and on
>the right hand on women, a single unbroken line across the palm signifies
>potential for great violence.
>
>I was OK; mine was on the left side.  :-)

Oh, then I'm "OK," too, as mine is on the right, and I was male the last
time I checked.  How independently mobile is your left index finger, and
what's your opposability index (divide length of thumb by length of index
finger and multiply by 100)?

-- Herb Huston



From: wjb@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Bill Buse)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:25:55 GMT
Subject: Re: NOT Pickup Lines, ferchrissake, but being InTeReSting, maybe
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: soc.singles

In soc.singles, oaf@serverx.osf.org (Oded Feingold) writes:
 >>Maybe this falls more into the unusual or different dates discussion, but
 >>one date idea for morning persons is to meet early in the morning and watch
 >>the sun rise together and then go out for breakfast.   :-)  
 >>				wjb@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Bill Buse)
 >
 >  Weird(??) date idea:
 >
 >  	roll out to a beach/park at least an hour before sunrise,
 >  	watch the night animals head for home,  (deer, raccoons,
 >  		possums, rattlesnakes, owls, depends where you are),
 >  	watch the birds and listen to the world wake up,
 >  	Have breakfast,
 >  		Go to sleep for a few hours,
 >  		return to civilization(?) around noon.

I really like this date idea!!!!!!  :-)  

Something that I left out of my previous date idea posting was the part
about watching the sunrise from a high point in the mountains to the west 
of town.  Its similar to your beach/park idea.  

While we are talking about sunrises, when you see a picture that could
either be a sunrise or sunset and you don't know which it is, do you say
it is a sunrise or a sunset?  :-) 

Bill
wjb@hpisla.lvld.hp.com
From: lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: FLAME ON, STAND BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 13 Aug 1992 01:00:05 GMT
Organization: Lamar University - Beaumont

In article <92225.235234U15479@uicvm.uic.edu>, U15479@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
> 
>   This group has really gotten shitty lately with everyone having to post their
> replies to the net instead of the originator of the article.  It wastes so much
> time!!!!!!

Whattsa matter Grumby, your SO cut you off??????  Go ahead and read, it will
keep ya from playing with yourself!

> 
>    Then all of you geeks with your little cliques have to talk to each other in
> this group (and others) instead of writing to each other and leaving the rest
> of us alone!!!!!!

Boy, aren't we the clever one?????  We first get p*ssed cause nobody writes,
cause everybody in here is a *SNOB* Elite that frequents this long newsgroup,
so we don'thave time to respond to littsy-bittsy Grumbo?  Then, we have to
tell everybody to quit wastin' bandwidth?  Whats it gonna be, "GUY" ?????
geez....

> 
>     And finally can we come up with some interesting topics people??  Don't
> look at me becuase I have posted here and the snob elite that frequent this
> group obviously didn't care to respond to an outsider.
> 
>                                    Get a life!!!!!!!
> 
>                  Go ahead and flame me, big deal!!!!!!!!!!!

FLAME ON>>>>>

Burn, Gumby, BURN!!!!!!  Wel are all spies from the KGB just waiting to flame
you with our flame throwers

oops.... That should have been "Grumby"... oh well same difference!

BURN SOME MORE, GUMBY, BURN, BURN, BURN, BURN!!!!!!!!!  iS IT getting hot yet(

FLAME NOW OFF>>>>>

Chris, hope you enjoyed the flames, and you have a nice day, don't forget,
though----------> Grow a d*ck, fellow!  (HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHE)

Signed,


Arsenist Spy from hell #U1549386
> CHRIS GRUMBOSKI                      GRUMBY STRIKES AGAIN!
> 
>                 "WELL..........WE'RE WAITING!!!"
From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (long)
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:36:22 GMT
Reply-To: dhardin@spcink.bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <1992Aug14.073415.2677@nuchat.sccsi.com> kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) writes:
>Sigh.  It's really hard to talk about statistics to someone who seems to be
>having trouble grasping the basic concepts (Teri may well be well-versed
>in statistical analysis, but what I've seen so far indicates otherwise).
>Perhaps I should try explaining them first.  But one more try at the
>standard approach...:-)

OK, I'm a statistician (which doesn't mean that I haven't been accused of
not knowing what I'm talking about in this newsgroup, but that's OK...)

Teri has a point when she says that the ratios don't matter when it comes
to looking for a girlfriend.  This is the way my logic professor put it
when he told us about how he had made his decision to get his phD in 
philosophy.  It didn't matter that there are 100 applicants for every 
philosophy job -- he wasn't looking for jobs for a hundred applicants, he 
was only looking for one job.  And his chances of being happy in that job
were much higher than his chances of being happy as a lawyer.  Similarly, 
you aren't looking for dates for all the guys in your CS class, you're just
looking for a girl who likes you.  And I'm guessing that you'll be happier
with that girl then a gum chewer who does hair.

BTW, you mentioned earlier that you have learning disabilities?  I don't 
know what you mean by that -- you write pretty damn well if you do.  One
of my housemates has pretty bad disabilities.  He just got asked out by
a girl that he met at a club for handicapped young adults.  There are many
more men than women in this club.  I'm not sure how they met or why she 
asked him out, but you should have *seen* the look on his face when he
realized that he was getting asked out on a date.  I thought he was getting
bad news -- he looked like he was going to faint.  After about an hour
that shocked look turned into the biggest smile you ever saw.  It was really
great to see.  I doubt your problems are like his though -- he has a very
difficult time writing or speaking.

Dawn
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:17:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: bronze.kiran.714226649
Organization: Indiana University

shannah@netcom.com (Teri Miller) writes:

>That's why I keep suggesting that people concentrate on becoming datable
 
So-- how does one become dateable?  
 
What should Mr Brown change that would make him more dateable?

-- 
"One [Ostrich egg] makes a meal for two to six Hottentots, depending
 on the size of the Hottentots. You boil it for fifty minutes and call
 in the Hottentots."
 


-- 
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P.O.Box 2083 Bloomington IN 47402-2083      (812) 336-7478 [8p-1a EST]
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:29:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: bronze.kiran.714227369
Organization: Indiana University

gds@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner) writes:
 
>I know other guys who started out as sensitive,
>90's-type guys, who never seemed to be able to attract women.  They
>got fed up and became jerks.  Next thing you know, they were
>attracting women.  However, they were unhappy because they realized
>they had to become jerks to attract women, instead of just being
 
There's just no pleasing some people.  First they complain becuz 
assholes get the babes, then they get the babes and complain cuz 
they gotta be assholes.
 
Some people.  Humph.
 
>alt.romance.chat built up incredible fantasies about their net.lovers,
>until they actually got together, and the fantasy, along with the
>relationship, crumbled.
 
Argh. You read a.r.c?  Yuk.
 
-- 
"Yet we can all learn something from him if we observe him closely and
 meditate on what we see.  The Wart Hog teaches us this useful lesson:
 Don't be a Wart Hog."
-- 
Kiran Wagle                             <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
P.O.Box 2083 Bloomington IN 47402-2083      (812) 336-7478 [8p-1a EST]
Xref: sparky soc.singles:22477 soc.couples:3620 soc.men:14938 soc.women:15208 soc.motss:34986
From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.couples,soc.men,soc.women,soc.motss
Subject: Re: BOINK! BOINK! BALLOONBOINK IN ALBUQUERQUE!
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:33:55 GMT
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <0iJFPB4w165w@wildrose.infoserv.com> rkf@wildrose.infoserv.com (Ray Fink) writes:
>johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>
>> I can just see Ron and Larry meeting people at the airport...
>> 
>> "Welcome to Albuquerque, here`s your banana."
>
>I've seen pictures from prior Balloon Festivals...some of the balloons
>are not just traditional hot-air-balloon-shaped, I've seen dinosaurs,
>Tony the Tiger, the Planters "Mr. Peanut", etc.

For those of you wondering just how exciting a balloon fiesta can be...

This will be my 13th Balloon Fiesta.  It is Albuquerque's version of 
Mardi Gras.  Imagine 600 (yes - that's 600) large hot-air balloons 
hovering over the city (about a 10-mile square).  For an entire week 
I drive to work each morning through a fantasy world of giant balloons.  
It *never* gets old.  Try as you may to take pictures, the Albuquerque 
Balloon Fiesta remains uncaptured on film to this day.

(Balloon pilots can be a friendly lot too ;-)

-- 
Scott Amspoker                       |    
Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |  Too bad ignorance isn't really
                                     |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
scott@bbx.basis.com                  |
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:13:26 GMT

Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com> writes:
 
>You apparently assume this means "want someone to support me".  
>It could also mean "no more leeches".
 
It could, but statistics ar on his side.  
Prejudices and stereotypes arise for reasons, after all.

-- 
"Puddle Ducks just wander around... Commercial Ducks have modern
 ideas.  The Long Island Duckling is a big success at the age of three
 months, with applesauce.  The Canvasback feeds on wild celery in the
 Chesapeake Bay region, thus improving his flavor and raising his
 price in the market.  Pretty smart for a Duck."
-- 
Kiran Wagle                             <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
P.O.Box 2083 Bloomington IN 47402-2083      (812) 336-7478 [8p-1a EST]
From: gt0869a@prism.gatech.EDU (WATERS,CLYDE GORDON)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Female Olympians
Date: 16 Aug 92 01:54:27 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

My vote would go to Henrietta Onodi, from Hungary.


Regards,
Gordon.

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Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.couples,soc.men,soc.women,soc.motss
From: swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Married Men and Single Women
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:35:45 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <14028@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>
>Oh yeah,  we'll I once was told be a guy who heard from his sister who
>was married to this guy whose daughter that went to separate schools with
>this girl whose  mother that was friends with this woman that said I was "the 
>best she'd ever had".
>
>But I don't take any chances so I sneak into womens bathrooms and write
>it on the wall myself.

Didja see the toilet paper mimeographed with my phone number?

-- 
Steve Swann                 |    Speak to me in many voices; make
swann@acsu.buffalo.edu      |      them all sound like one...  -BOC
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams)
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 11:13:44 GMT

In <1992Aug13.185231.28136@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:


> 
>in <1992Aug12.022501.13642@nuchat.sccsi.com>
>    kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) writes:
> 
> 
>] >On the surface, you can listen to someone's words, tone of voice,
>]
>] I can detect these.
> 
>Good; that's a start.
> 
>] >body
>] >position and gestures, muscular tension, eye position and motion, pupil
>] >dilation, breathing patterns, and many other fairly obvious physical
>] >responses;
>]
>] When I'm able to detect these at all, they don't tell me anything.  I have
>] trouble enough concentrating on and thinking about what the other person is
>] saying.
> 
>Well, you might want to pick up a few books on the subject of body
>language.  ("Body Language" by Julius Fast comes to mind, though there
>are many other good books on the subject.)

	Try "Manwatching" by Desmond Morris too. It's very interesting with
loads of photographs to display the gestures. It really makes you think, though!
You spend the next few weeks analyzing the way people cross their legs!:>
 
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Boink Blues
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 19:02:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.214619.17280@cbnews.cb.att.com> eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.152600.8055@kpc.com> dennisp@kpc.com (Dennis Preston) writes:
>>I'm new to this group, but I live in Denver and I'd love to do a boink.
>>Preferably in Winter. dennisp@kpc.com
>
>Gee, if I lived in Denver, I'd prefer to do a bunk in the winter.
>Preferably to St. Thomas.

Well, I do live in Denver (Cherry Hills, but that's close enough), and
I'd be willing to offer you a bunk.

Trygve   (After all, you did the same for me.)
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Email of the Week
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:31:03 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug13.171156.12203@oracle.us.oracle.com> mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman) writes:
|>
|>Well, to start with, she did suggest that his brains be blown out.
|>
|>Secondly, seems to me that if her note to this guy was in a similar vein
|>to his response then she can hardly complain.

You ever hear of an arguementative technique called "exaggeration to 
absurdity"?  He wrote something stupid and to prove how stupid it was she
responded with a suggested that was "exaggeration to absurdity".  No one
in their right mind would believe that us blowing his brains out would be
a reasonable solution to his "problem".
-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
From: garrison@kodak.com (Laurie Garrison)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Commitment--The C-word?
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:16:36 GMT
Reply-To: garrison@kodak.com (Laurie Garrison)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Image Processing Algorithms Laboratory, Eastman Kodak Co.


In article <1992Aug19.134728.25390@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>, nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug18.163725.2377@sfu.ca> probst@fraser.sfu.ca (Scott Probst) writes:
|> >
|> >well, i can't say i've seen the stats that suggest what you say. also, i have
|> >some difficulty conceptualising marriage (or any equivalent) as a job. let's
|> >hear from women out there: do you think it's right to consider that the man
|> >pays the woman a "salary"?
|> 
|> Well here again is the issue of choice.  If after marriage a person choses
|> to not contribute income to the household, that's a choice.  In my opinion
|> it's a selfish lazy choice.  Nobody but a really insecure individual with lots
|> of problems would chose to live off another person and expect the situation
|> to work out well.
|


boy this statement bothers me.  does this mean that if i get married
and have children and decide to stay home to raise them through preschool,
i am making a 'selfish lazy choice'???  choosing to stay home with a
baby is LAZY???  sometimes i think i would like to find a man who 
would be willing to stay home and let *me* work...i think work is
easier!

in some ways, it is *more* selfish and lazy to go to work and
not stay home with the kids.  

laurie


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The more I know, the less I understand
All the things I thought I'd figured out, 	
I have to learn again...
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: Ross Ridge <ross@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Commitment--The C-word?
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 18:04:50 GMT

jah0532@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com (Julia Henry) writes:
>He spent all of his disposable income on who knows what for himself
>while I invested and saved my disposable income.

You'ld probably be better off if you had thought it of it as if
you two were spending half your disposable income on investments
and the other half on stuff for him.  

>I wouldn't marry again without a prenuptial agreement.  The risks are
>too great.

Be wary of prenuptial agreements, they aren't always binding in all
circumstances.  For example in Ontario the "house" is always split
equally between both parties, no matter what the couple agreed on
before hand.

							Ross Ridge

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