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From: den0@lehigh.edu (Dean E. Nelson)
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria,rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Red Worms as Fish Food?
Keywords: fish, food, worms, composting
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:45:10 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University Computing Center

In article <1993Jan26.131328.10456@wam.umd.edu> 
harold@wam.umd.edu (James B. Harold) writes:
>  Unless you come up with something
>clever (which I'd be interested in hearing about) you have to pick
>out the worms one at a time by hand, so I'm not likely to feed
>them to the fish every day.

I have a sizeable cultrue outside.  If you place a piece of burlap
on the top and then spread some food on top of the burlap, say corn
meal or oatmeal, the worms will come up through the burlap to get it.
Lift the burlap and the worms come with it.  Of course, it takes some
time for the worms to move through the burlap, but if you leave it 
their and keep food on it, you should always be able to harvest some
easily.  Since burlap tends to degrade after awhile, you may be able
to find some plastic mesh that works better.  

Dean Nelson
den0@lehigh.edu
From: dbs@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Dave Sheehy)
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria
Subject: Re: [M] Trigger Diet
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:33:21 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.3 PL7]

degen@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu wrote:
: 	I recently purchase a Trigger.  I want to know if I will hurt it
: by feeding it fresh fish exclusively (guppies and goldfish).  Should I
: also feed marine foodstuffs?

Yes. In fact you should try for a diet of at least 50% marine based 
foodstuffs.

: 	A salesman once told me that a fat found in fresh water fish will
: produce a liver disorder in marine fish.  Is this true

I don't recall the exact health implications (but a liver disorder sounds
reasonable) but the HUFA content (Highly Unsaturated Fatty Acid) of 
freshwater animals is different from that of marine animals. Marine animals
are not able to digest freshwater foodstuffs as well as marine based and
will eventually develop a nutritional disorder. I believe Moe discusses this
in one of his books, R. Brosseau (I hope I spelled your name right!) has
discussed this on both the net and in a FAMA article, and it was also 
discussed at MACNA IV this year. So, at least in this case the salesman
wasn't feeding you a line. Actually I'm pretty impressed that the salesman
was that well informed.

: Mike

Dave Sheehy
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From: kvk@questor.sw.stratus.com (Ken Koellner)
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria,rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Red Worms as Fish Food?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 14:48:37 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: questor.sw.stratus.com
Keywords: fish, food, worms, composting


There is been a discussion of red wigglers for composting in
rec.gardens in the last couple days.  I saved one of the most
informative post.  Here it is.  See rec.gardens for more info.  It's a
good news group.

From transfer.stratus.com!noc.near.net!uunet!gatech!concert!samba!sunSITE!london Tue Jan 26 08:15:14 EST 1993
Article: 11771 of rec.gardens
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
From: uabphy@pinet.aip.org (david_shealy)
Subject: test
Organization: American Institute of Physics
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 17:58:07 GMT


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From: goldie@herald.usask.ca (Hugh Goldie)
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria,rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
Subject: Red Worms as Fish Food?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 00:10:00 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: herald.usask.ca
Keywords: fish, food, worms, composting
Originator: goldie@herald.usask.ca

I have just ordered some "red wiggler" worms for use in an indoor composter.
(Indoor composting was discussed on rec.gardens recently.)  Can I feed these
to my fresh-water angel fish?  They are supposed to be smaller than garden
worms, which sounds good, but I'd hate to give my fish indigestion or disease.
I read somewhere that tubifex worms can constipate fish, if you feed too 
heavily.  Does anyone have any experience feeding red worms to fish?
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria
From: sherwood@ug.cs.dal.ca (Alison R. Sherwood)
Subject: Post-Euthanasia, thanks
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:57:03 GMT

I would just like to say that thanks to the people that responded, I've
chosen what I feel is the most humane method of doing away with my fish,
who was obviously far beyond help. It has been suggested that this topic
be dealt with in the FAQ, which I think is a good idea. The most popular
suggestion I received was to freeze the fish, and thereby slow down his
metabolic rate to nil. This is what I chose to go with, and I would like
to thank my mother for doing the actual "dirty work" while I was at class.
As well, thanks to the following people who mailed me or posted their
suggestions: Robert Barley, Kevin Kuehl, Jill Nicolaus, Paul Prior, and
someone simply known as Matt. Thanks again for minimizing the suffering 
of my favorite fish!

Alison Sherwood
2nd year Marine Biology
Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia
sherwood@ug.cs.dal.ca



Newsgroups: sci.aquaria
From: carl@crazyman.med.ge.com (Carl Crawford)
Subject: removing silicone form tank
Reply-To: carl@crazyman.med.ge.com (Carl Crawford)
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Milwaukee,  WI
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 04:59:54 GMT

my 30 g all-glass developed a leak in the middle of the night and all
the water ran out by morning. i removed the bottom plastic strip and
discovered that there is a 3 mm gap between the bottom plate and the
front plate.  the silicone filling this gap deteriorated causing the
catastrophic leak. is this gap normal? how can i remove the silicone,
i.e. is this a chemical to dissolve it, so that i can re-seal the
tank?
--
Carl R. Crawford	   Voice: 414-521-6572
GE Medical Systems	   Fax: 414-521-6549
P.O. Box 414, W-875	   Internet: crawfordc@med.ge.com
Milwaukee, WI 53201	   
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From: infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew  Infante)
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria,rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Red Worms as Fish Food?
Keywords: fish, food, worms, composting
Date: 28 Jan 93 22:09:44 GMT
Followup-To: sci.aquaria
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

"red wigglers, the cadillac of worms..."
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria,rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
From: harold@wam.umd.edu (James B. Harold)
Subject: Re: Red Worms as Fish Food?
Keywords: fish, food, worms, composting
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:13:28 GMT

In article <1k1vgoINNrqd@access.usask.ca> goldie@herald.usask.ca (Hugh Goldie) writes:
>I have just ordered some "red wiggler" worms for use in an indoor composter.
>(Indoor composting was discussed on rec.gardens recently.) 
<..>
>I read somewhere that tubifex worms can constipate fish, if you feed too 
>heavily.  Does anyone have any experience feeding red worms to fish?

I've had a worm culture going for awhile now (they're "red" worms
from a bait shop...they might be composting worms:  I'm not sure).
Mostly they're for a tortoise, but they breed so darn fast I've
been giving them to the fish as well.  The fish aren't quite as
enthusiastic about them as they are about some live food (which is
to say they get several inches below the surface before getting
eaten, instead of being grabbed at the surface :-)  ).  In any
case, I haven't noticed any deleterious effects.  But then, I
only feed them once a week or so.  Unless you come up with something
clever (which I'd be interested in hearing about) you have to pick
out the worms one at a time by hand, so I'm not likely to feed
them to the fish every day.

Just as a side note, I got my worm info here on the net, and
thanks to all who contributed.  The culture is a few months old
now and I have more baby worms then I know what to do with :-).
If I had the space I'd be composting as well...


-- 

James Harold                 "There is always an easy solution to
harold@wam.umd.edu            every human problem -- neat, plausible,
                              and wrong."    --  H. L. Mencken
From: jamaro@dante.nmsu.edu (AMARO)
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria
Subject: [M] Moray Eels
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:31:43 GMT
Organization: New Mexico State University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Hi All 
	I have a few questions about Marine Eels.  Any Help would be great!
At the present I have a 29 gallon salt tank with 4 damsel ( blue reef) the damsel are cycling the tank.  I will sell these fish back to my dealer once all my 
nitrates are in check. Here come the questions

	1.I realize I will need to stick to small species but which ones
	 will do the best in my tank?

	2.Will they eat feeder goldfish?

	3.What types of fish will I not be able to keep w/ a Eel?

	4.Does anybody know of a book I can buy to help me keep 
	 my eel happy?

	5.Is there anything I should know about before I buy an Eel
	 Please be honest.

I have a Biologic 402 on my tank and things seem to be going great so far.  
temp will be held between 78-80 degrees.
After I sell my damsels back I would like to buy a anemone and a percula 
clown, Will the clown be O.K..  

Any help would be great!! 
Please help!
Thanks
Jason J. Amaro
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Newsgroups: sci.aquaria
From: "mike primorac" <mike.primorac@canrem.com>
Subject: aquarium services offered
Reply-To: "mike primorac" <mike.primorac@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: sci
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:03:46 EST

        Hi, I'm posting this message for a friend of mine
 who has lots of experience regarding fresh and saltwater
 aquariums.

        If you've been having trouble with your aquarium
 or would like a professional to set one up for you, then
 you're in luck because Craig at Eco-Life Aquariums is the
 man to call.  Also, if you would like your aquarium cleaned
 and maintained on a regular basis he can make pre-arranged
 house calls.  The rates for these and many other services
 are quite affordable and Craig takes personal pride in
 providing a pleasant service with a smile.  Please call
 (416)-793-5963 after 8:00 p.m on weeknights and ask for
 Craig LeMasurier.

        From personal experience I can tell you that he
 made a considerable difference in the way that my reef
 looks.  Since I have subscribed to his service I find
 that the corals are doing much better than before and
 my mushrooms have rapidly divided.  It was money well
 spent, and the price was highly affordable too.

 Mike Primorac
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
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From: mattk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (matthew.kaufman)
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria,rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Red Worms as Fish Food?
Summary: Yum!
Keywords: fish, food, worms, composting
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:29:57 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1k1vgoINNrqd@access.usask.ca> goldie@herald.usask.ca (Hugh Goldie) writes:
>I have just ordered some "red wiggler" worms for use in an indoor composter.
>(Indoor composting was discussed on rec.gardens recently.)  Can I feed these
>to my fresh-water angel fish?  They are supposed to be smaller than garden
>worms, which sounds good, but I'd hate to give my fish indigestion or disease.
>I read somewhere that tubifex worms can constipate fish, if you feed too 
>heavily.  Does anyone have any experience feeding red worms to fish?

There's been numerous 'how to cultivate' worm postings here and maybe
somethings made it to the FAQ. I've fed those horticultural supply-house
red wigglers to my cichlids for the past few years, they work just great.
Heck, I've fed bait shop wigglers as well 'cause my bait guy cultivates
them in a compost heap, and ones I've found in my garden (where I don't
use pesticides.) There's a variety 'african red wigglers' you see in the
hobby mags that is the easiest of the bunch to cultivate indoors, not
too demanding of temp/moisture/food.

Things that are working for me:

	Keep the worms in a fish styro in a fish box. Keeps 'em warm enough
	and seemingly keeps the mites and crap *out*.

	Keep the soil fairly moist - squeeze a handful, it drips water.

	Feed organic scraps - apple, lettuce, whatever. I tried baby food for
	awhile but that seemingly fouled the soil pretty badly. Note:
	if you feed apples to your worms I've heard you shouldn't fed them
	to marine fish.

Now, I don't harvest worms by the handful - probably a dozen/week and this
culture's been going since September just fine. Soil is mostly peat moss
with some garden soil mixed in. All my fish love 'em, I do cut the worms
up for the smaller fish.
-- 
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                        | reproduction in printed media or by pay-for-read
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Newsgroups: sci.aquaria
From: fernando@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (Fernando Pineda)
Subject: [M] German reef keeping magazines?
Reply-To: fernando@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (Fernando Pineda)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University/Applied Physics Labs
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:33:42 GMT

Since there is a "Berlin School" of reef keeping there must
be German-language reef-keeping magazines published in Germany. Does anyone
have any info on these magazines? Interesting information would be: what are 
their titles,  what is the quality of their articles, where can I get 
subscription information? 

Fernando Pineda (fernando@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu)
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria
From: pprior@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul A Prior)
Subject: Re: aquarium services offered
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: sci
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:10:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.4257.2870@dosgate> "mike primorac" <mike.primorac@canrem.com> writes:
>        Hi, I'm posting this message for a friend of mine
> who has lots of experience regarding fresh and saltwater

Hi, I'm going to flame you for po sposting a commercial message
with worldwide distribution on a network which SPECIFICALLY
bans such commerical postings.  And to top it all off, you
send out two copies!

Not only that, but without a doubt there is much more talent
on this net given for the love of the hobby and not for
profit, that to suggest that we call some guy in Canada that
we've never even heard of and pay money for the advice that
we all -share- here daily, is silly.

Don't take it personally; just don't post commercial posts 
here again.  We'll be more than happy to discuss your
tanks, however ;)


-- 
--------pprior@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu----(614) 621-8240----------------
Paul A. Prior    Ban anchors, not reef tanks    Nuke Gay Whales for Jesus  
3rd year medical student 		        
The Ohio State U. College of Medicine   Tobacco Kills- Please don't smoke!
From: szymanski@uni-duesseldorf.de (Klaus Szymanski)
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria
Subject: Re: [M] German reef keeping magazines?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:17:55 GMT
Organization: Universitaetsrechenzentrum, Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Duesseldorf
NNTP-Posting-Host: szymanski.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de

In article <C19vs7.4oB@netnews.jhuapl.edu> fernando@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (Fernando Pineda) writes:
>From: fernando@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (Fernando Pineda)
>Subject: [M] German reef keeping magazines?
>Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:33:42 GMT

>Since there is a "Berlin School" of reef keeping there must

The Zoo-Aquarium in Berlin has been successful in breeding marine tropical 
fish maybe therefor this name. But this name is not common in Germany.

>be German-language reef-keeping magazines published in Germany. Does anyone

I do not know of a special reef-keeping magazine published in Germany. You 
can find contributions to reef-keeping in the DATZ (Die Aquarien und 
Terrarien Zeitschrift) which is the most famous magazine on this area in 
Germany.

>have any info on these magazines? Interesting information would be: what 
are >their titles,  what is the quality of their articles, where can I get 
>subscription information? 

The quality of their articles are very good. If you are interested I can 
give you subscription information. Please mail.

>Fernando Pineda (fernando@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu)

Klaus Szymanski

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Newsgroups: sci.aquaria
From: pprior@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul A Prior)
Subject: Re: Mercy killing - how?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:21:41 GMT

In article <C1HEGy.4Ar@cs.dal.ca> sherwood@ug.cs.dal.ca (Alison R. Sherwood) writes:
>Please help - I received no response to a previous plea for assistance
>regarding a sick goldfish. Well, the disease has progressed to the 
>stage where it is obvious I must put him out of his misery. He has no
>tail, is missing one eye, is covered in fungus, etc. What is the most
>humane way to do away with him?


This is another question that should be in the FAQ, if it isn't.

I have heard of several methods.  MOst are probably relatively painless
to the fish and I guess it depends on your personal preference.

1)  Put fish in cup of water and put in freezer.
2)  Put fish in glass of seltzer water and then in freezer.
3)  Chop off fish's head with knife (only painless if you don't miss)
4)  Put fish down garbage disposal (personally I don't agree with
    this one.  I imagine a fish would get hacked quite a few times
    before dying this way, but it has been suggested in the past).


Also, consider that if you have not treated your fish to this pont
that you might still save him with agressive antifungal therapy.
I don't, of course, know how bad he/she is, but just because some
external damage looks bad doesn't mean that it is that bad if you
treat him.  OOTH, if the fish is just wallowing about in obvious
pain, then you are probably right in euthanizing it.  I only bring
this up because I have a yellow tang that lost an eye ("one-eyed Jack")
that I rescued from the hangman's noose from a local pet store, and
he is one of my favorites!

Good luck, whatever your do.

-- 
--------pprior@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu----(614) 621-8240----------------
Paul A. Prior    Ban anchors, not reef tanks    Nuke Gay Whales for Jesus  
3rd year medical student 		        
The Ohio State U. College of Medicine   Tobacco Kills- Please don't smoke!
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From: frazier@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Gregory Frazier)
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria,rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Red Worms as Fish Food?
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:52:34 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Hugh Goldie (goldie@herald.usask.ca) wrote:
: I have just ordered some "red wiggler" worms for use in an indoor composter.
: (Indoor composting was discussed on rec.gardens recently.)  Can I feed these
: to my fresh-water angel fish?  They are supposed to be smaller than garden
: worms, which sounds good, but I'd hate to give my fish indigestion or disease.
: I read somewhere that tubifex worms can constipate fish, if you feed too 
: heavily.  Does anyone have any experience feeding red worms to fish?

Your angel fish will love you.  Red wigglers, African red worms, whatever
you want to call them are great for getting fish into spawning condition.
They should probably not be the sole food source, but every 3rd or 4th
meal - fish need balanced diets, too.

--
"They thought to use and shame me but I win out by nature, because a true
freak cannot be made.  A true freak must be born." - K. Dunn, _Geek Love_

Greg Frazier	frazier@CS.UCLA.EDU	!{ucbvax,rutgers}!ucla-cs!frazier
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From: victor@tofu.informix.com (Victor Ayllon)
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria,rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
Subject: INFORMATION ABOUT SYMPHYSODON DISCUS
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:03:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.
Originator: victor@neptune


Does anybody have any kind of information about maintenance, reproduction,
care, etc of a fish called "Symphysodon discus"?. A friend of mine is very
interested in it, but he has not access to the "news". (I'm neophyte in this
matter).


Thanks in advance.


victor@informix.com 
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria,rec.aquaria
From: silverst@longfellow.ecn.purdue.edu (Brian R Silverstein)
Subject: deionizing to soften water
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:43:49 GMT

After reading the article in this month's FAMA on water
conditioning, I decided to try out deionized water for my
tanks.  Coincidentally :-) the only 2 companies who advertize
in FAMA carrying deionization equipment had their adds among
the pages of that article.

After a little research, I bought 64 oz of cation resin from
Debron, whose supplier is Kent Marine. (This is not an endorsement,
I am not affliated in any way.)  It actually cost me less than
the price stated in the magazine, (by almost 50%) so interested
customers should call for prices.

My problem is that the resin came with no directions.  I am
keeping careful records of the water I am softening (pH, hardness,
volume softened, amount of resin) using 4 and 8 oz packets of
resin, and experimenting with muriatic acid to regenerate the
resin.  I'm just curious whether anyone else has already been
through this and has general outlines for:
   How much water can be softened before recharging?
       (gallons-hardness-amount of resin relationship)

   What concentration of acid is used to recharge, and how
       long does it take?

WARNING AND DISCLAIMER:
   Muriatic acid, aka hydrochloric acid 20%, can burn the hell
   out of you, your lungs, your clothes, your sink, your cat,
   and your fish.  If you don't know what you're doing, don't
   do it.  Keep the ventilation fan on.  Don't drink it.  Use
   your head.  If you break your legs, don't come running to me!


If anyone wants me to post my findings, (once I actually know what
I'm doing, I will.  It appears that for under $19 in resin, and
a $3 gallon of acid, I can soften at least a thousand gallons of
water.  That's around 2 cents a gallon: well within my budget.
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria,rec.aquaria
From: srrapp@bb1t.monsanto.com
Subject: Re: Purple algae in saltwater setup
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:37:52 GMT

In article <73958@cup.portal.com>, Chaz1@cup.portal.com (Chuck - Gilkison) writes:
>>I have very dark purple algae starting to cover just about everything in my ta
> n
>>k. Question is
>>how to I get rid of this stuff. Any ideas? Is it a high phosphate problem? 
Purple algae is red-slime (cyanobacteria), actually a bacterial growth which is
fueled more by dissolved organics in the water than phophates although
phosphates are a contributing problem.  Phosphates are more of a problem when
it comes to controlling hair algae.  A marine aquarium with a properly
regulated protein skimmer will not have any slime algae.  Alternatively, a
quick temporary cure is to add 1 tablet of Maracyn per 25 gallons of water. 
This will immediately (1 or 2 days) kill the red/purple slime algae but it is
not the solution.
Good Luck Steve
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria
From: sherwood@ug.cs.dal.ca (Alison R. Sherwood)
Subject: Mercy killing - how?
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:00:33 GMT

Please help - I received no response to a previous plea for assistance
regarding a sick goldfish. Well, the disease has progressed to the 
stage where it is obvious I must put him out of his misery. He has no
tail, is missing one eye, is covered in fungus, etc. What is the most
humane way to do away with him?
Thank you
Alison Sherwood
sherwood@ug.cs.dal.ca