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From: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca (Bill Arnett)
Subject: Re: Nudity in the Mainstream
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 09:40:19 GMT

Unrelated to the original post, but on the same topic: I heard this
on the radio news this morning.

A new magazine being published in Whistler, BC (a ski area about an hour
north of Vancouver) published their first (?) issue featuring a cover
picture of a "full-frontal", male, nude skier.

According to the report "mothers are outraged" believing that the cover
encourages nudity! [Oh god! Not *that* sinful behavior!]  And women's
groups were planning to protest it.  [Excuse me?  I thought women's groups
were opposing the sexploitation of *women*.... I'm *so* confused!]

In the spirit of sound journalism the report failed to mention the nature
of the magazine.  (I'm not even sure if they mentioned its name.)

I'll have to try and track down a copy.  Or at least an address.  If anyone
else in BC has any references for this (newspaper article or whatever) i'd
appreciate hearing from you.
-- 
Bill Arnett                            Internet: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca
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From: rpaolino@polisci.pol.umn.edu (Robert Paolino)
Subject: Re: Public Pools
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 06:08:30 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.054313.24900@unixg.ubc.ca> arnett@unixg.ubc.ca (Bill Arnett) writes:

>In article <1992Apr6.180527.21072@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> PATZNER@rhea.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Achim Patzner) writes:
>>-> I have
>>-> never seen anyone in a sauna in Germany with a bathing suit.
>>
>>I have... and it was probably the most embarassing situation in that
>>person's whole life. Just one question: Are other people really wearing
>>CLOTHES in saunas? Towels maybe, but anything else?

>Yes.  In the campus pool here at UBC, the saunas are single-sex and during
>the "staff and student" sessions probably about half of the men using the
>sauna (and the steam room) wear swimsuits or shorts.  I don't think I've
>*ever* seen anyone wrapped in a towel.  It's either clothes or nothing.

>During the "public" sessions, almost all the men wear shorts or swimsuits.
>I've only seen a couple of other guys use the sauna nude during these sessions.

>Twice a week (10:30 to midnight during "public" sessions) the saunas are
>mixed-sex.  During these times everyone wears a suit.  (I don't think that
>any clothing requirements are actually published; they are just taken for
>granted.)

>I've heard from one person that the saunas at nearby Simon Fraser University
>are mixed-sex *and* clothing-optional, but I don't know if this is true
>(occasionally, frequently, or ever).
>--
>Bill Arnett                            Internet: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca

My, that seems really odd--especially given my (favourable) impressions of 
BC.  Even here in stifling repressed Minnesota hardly anyone dresses to use 
the sauna/steam room at the University pools.  They might have all kinds of 
signs posted about warning people that they must be "properly attired beyond 
this point" (on the way to the pool  :-(  ), but not many people are silly 
enough to put clothes on to enter the sauna.  Maybe all the "normal" people 
are down at Wreck Beach, leaving only the odd ones at the pool/sauna!?
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From: k5@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (w.j.mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Seeking CO areas in Colorado (Boulder/Denver preferred)
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:18:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1992Apr13.225847.15963@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> wsmith@isis.cs.du.edu (Walter Smith) writes:
>Greetings!
>
>Now that warmer weather is rolling around, my girlfriend and I would like to
>find some clothing-optional recreational areas in Colorado, near Boulder if
>possible. They don't need to be anything fancy -- just someplace to soak up
>the rays and warm of the season. Please email me as I can't often access my
>account. Thanks in advanced.
>
>Walter
>wsmith@nyx.cs.du.edu

Try the Mountain Air Ranch in Littleton (outside Denver). They are listed in the
ASA guide as well as the Denver phone book. It is managed by a young couple and
attracts a friendly crowd. They have a sauna, hot tub, pool (not yet open) and
other outdoor amusements. Call for directions.
From: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca (Bill Arnett)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Public Pools
Date: 9 Apr 92 05:43:13 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada

In article <1992Apr6.180527.21072@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> PATZNER@rhea.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Achim Patzner) writes:
>-> I have
>-> never seen anyone in a sauna in Germany with a bathing suit.
>
>I have... and it was probably the most embarassing situation in that
>person's whole life. Just one question: Are other people really wearing
>CLOTHES in saunas? Towels maybe, but anything else?

Yes.  In the campus pool here at UBC, the saunas are single-sex and during
the "staff and student" sessions probably about half of the men using the
sauna (and the steam room) wear swimsuits or shorts.  I don't think I've
*ever* seen anyone wrapped in a towel.  It's either clothes or nothing.

During the "public" sessions, almost all the men wear shorts or swimsuits.
I've only seen a couple of other guys use the sauna nude during these sessions.

Twice a week (10:30 to midnight during "public" sessions) the saunas are
mixed-sex.  During these times everyone wears a suit.  (I don't think that
any clothing requirements are actually published; they are just taken for
granted.)

I've heard from one person that the saunas at nearby Simon Fraser University
are mixed-sex *and* clothing-optional, but I don't know if this is true
(occasionally, frequently, or ever).
--
Bill Arnett                            Internet: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca
From: jimb@loowit.wr.tek.com (Jim Boland)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Northern Oregon
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:21:34 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <10APR199215265779@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> scridd@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov writes:
>>Will be in north Oregon in a couple of months?  Any CO beach, resort
>>suggestions.  I know that water's COLD but there might be some protected
>>beach areas on a sunny day that would be good for some ray time. 
>
>Beaches
>
>Rooster Rock State Park - look for designated CO area.
20 mi east of Portland on Interstte 84.
No need to  "look" for it as it is marked with signs.  Just drive in the main
gate and turn right (east).  Follow to the end of the parking lot.  At the end
of the east parking lot is a restroom.  About 40 feet from the restroom is a
stairway.  Draw an imaginary line along the stairway down to the river and up
the bank and to the south.  The state sanctioned CO section is on the east
end of that line.  There is a sign on the stairway noting that.  You have
the trees for walking through the trails (yes there are insects), plus several
miles of beach (you can walk completely around the island during low water...
which we have this year.....which is about a 3-4 mile walk).  It is all sand, 
also.
Folks have been using this as CO since early March this year.

>Sauvie Island (just west of Portland)
about 20 mi. NW of Portland on US30 to Astoria.  Drive across the bridge and
follow signs to beaches....specifically Reeder Beach.  Go past it, Go past
the moorage and store.  Oh, stop at the store to get a parking permit.  You'll
need it.  You will pass a beach that  has a "dike" on the river side and 
parking on the left.  You will go up a rise and the road turns to a gravel
road.  This is about 12 miles from the bridge.  Go about 1/2 to 1 mile.  You 
will see a parking area on the left.  Park there.  Cross the gravel road.  
There are several places to go through the trees.  Go through.  Walk 100+ yards
and you will be on the beach.  Several Miles of CO sand beach.

You can't miss either place.  It is the one with all the cars parked nearby.
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From: an725@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul L. Fortman, Jr.)
Subject: Re: nudist politicians
Reply-To: an725@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul L. Fortman, Jr.)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 19:57:40 GMT


In a previous article, middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager) says:
>If this stuff only happens in Ca. I feel sorry for the rest of you.  On the
>other hand, it gives us an excuse.  When travelling on business I can act/be
>weird and people just say "its o.k., he's from California".

From what I have heard, there is a similar thing about someone from Ohio.

"Why did he do that?"
"He's from Ohio."
"Oh, that explains it." 

ObNude:  It is 65 degrees F in SW Ohio.  I wish I could be au naturel 
in and with nature today.  Ordinarily 65F would be chilly to me but 
after all that freezing weather we have been having 65 feels great.

*Paul

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fortmapl@dayton.bitnet
fortmapl@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu
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From: robin@ima.isc.com (Robin Gyver)
Subject: Re: CO Recreation in MA
Organization: not much
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:49:34 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.230822.393@athena.mit.edu> kwatsi@athena.mit.edu (Atomic Playboy) writes:
>As one can guess, I'm an M.I.T. student origianally from Georgia.

     Yes, I guessed this as soon as I saw that you'd typed a
500-character line without hitting RETURN.

     :-)

-- 
<robin@ima.isc.com>
One Naked Individual, with Liberty and Justice for All
From: rpaolino@polisci.pol.umn.edu (Robert Paolino)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Public Pools
Date: 12 Apr 92 06:42:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: polisci.rpaolino.251
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota

In article <1992Mar30.231132.15026@cs.cornell.edu> lasala@cs.cornell.edu (Steve LaSala) writes:

>In article <1992Mar30.060419.23333@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> userisra@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca (Mark Israel) writes:
>>
>>   When I was an incoming freshman at Cornell University in 1979, we
>>were required to take a swimming test.
>>
>>   It was segregated by sex.  The notice I got said "swimsuit not 
>>required", but 95% of the men wore swimsuits anyway.
>>
>>   I never thought to ask what the women did.

>       Apparently, there were single-sex, CO pool times here until fairly
>recently, but everything is now co-ed and suits-required.  This was an
>unfortunate step backward for some orthodox Jewish and Muslim students, whose
>religions forbid their swimming with members of the other sex.
>At least that's the story I heard.

...and the "suits required" part is an unfortunate step backward for those 
of the current and future generations who never had the option not to! :-)
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From: carroll@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (martin.d.carroll)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: hank
Keywords: address?
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:41:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

Is Hank still running alternates, and if so, what's his latest address?  The last one
I've got bounces like a ping pong ball...

mar
carroll@mozart.att.com
From: bbooth@bnr.ca (Bradley Booth)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: fat people
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:49:25 GMT
Reply-To: bbooth@bnr.ca (Bradley Booth)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ltd
Originator: bbooth@bcrks6


In article <1992Apr13.005832.8731@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, ah157@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rob Henry) writes:
> 
> 
> I still say that the people who say we shouldn't judge people by their
> size and that fat is beautiful are the fat people themselves,after all,they
> wouldn't put themselves down and we are all beautiful to ourselves.

If this is true, then explain eating disorders and diet centre advertising.
And who are you to say that only "fat people" find "fat people" beautiful.
And who is to say what is fat??  If models are your version of perfection, 
you may be grossed out when you see them nude... often not a very pretty sight 
all that skin and bones.

> If they're happy with the way they look,the it's fine.To each his own,we 
> shouldn't try to force our own beliefs on other people and I'm not here,this
> is just my opinion.

Listen to your own advise.

> Can't we end this damn discussion of women more modest,etc on here.
> It's so boring reading the same thing from different people everyday.

I agree that the "women more modest" discussion has been flogged to death,
but I can understand why women would not want to post here for fear of
harassment.  I think this discussion about fat people should die too.


Awaiting warm weather,

Brad

(Hooray!!  Finally got access to our news server... =8-)

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From: les@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Les Earnest)
Subject: Re: Beaches FAQ
Organization: Computer Science Department,  Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:42:38 GMT

Tom Middleton writes:
>Perhaps a separate "Nude Beaches and Resorts FAQ" is in order.  It should
>be short but could be used as a starters list.  Sandy Hook, Blacks Beach,
>and Wreck Beach should all be on it.  Perhaps a popular Florida beach too.

And a dozen or so beaches in Northern California.

--
Les Earnest                                  Phone:  415 941-3984
Internet: Les@cs.Stanford.edu              USMail: 12769 Dianne Drive
UUCP: . . . decwrl!cs.Stanford.edu!Les         Los Altos Hills, CA 94022
From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Handsome is as handsome does
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:37:08 GMT
Reply-To: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Apr9.213319.19629@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> kenm@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (...Jose) writes:
> we're not all equally beautiful, esp. naked.... 

	Oh, but we are.  Some of us just don't realize it yet.  

				"Wake up to find out that you are the
				 song that the morning sings..."
From: rpaolino@polisci.pol.umn.edu (Robert Paolino)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: SILLY QUESTION: Sandy Hook--What State/City?
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:30:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: polisci.rpaolino.221
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota

That's all
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From: kellogg@draco.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Pool Party Companion Needed
Date: 17 Apr 92 12:35:58 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University RUCS-Newark

Just wondering if there are any females in New Jersey (somewhere
near Princeton or New Brunswick) who would like to go to the CO pool
party advertised earlier.  It's on the 25th of April at 7pm at the
YMCA in Passaic, Jersey.

I called about it and they prefer if you bring along a member of
the opposite sex-- thus explaining the reason for this post.  No 
strings attached.  I can only promise a fun time.

Please reply *quickly* via e-mail if you are interested.  Address:
kellogg@draco.rutgers.edu.  Please include phone number so I can
call to arrange details.

About me:  I'm 25, funny (humorous, not odd), and intelligent.
From: rbrbrn@meteor.wisc.edu (Rob Holmes)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Re: Ozone Hole Farce?
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:18:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Meteorology and Space Science

Although I am a meteorologist (or Atmospheric Scientist as we are called these
days), ozone is not my specialty.  My area of "expertise" is in Antarctic
weather patterns.  On my most recent trip to the Antarctic, most of the talk 
that I heard on the ozone hole was this.
1) The atmospheric sinks for ozone is at the poles and that is where you would
most likely find a minimum (it's not really a hole) anyway.
2)most of the depletion of ozone is probably due to emissions from Mt. Erebus
(you could constantly see it steaming away).
3)The depletion near the S. pole has virtually no effect on the middle latitudes
4)The more squack thst is made about it, the more research money will be 
funneled to those that reseach this phenonema.
5)the ozone hole/greenhouse effect/global warming thing is being way over blown.
This leads directly back to 4.

That's my two cents worth.

And before anyone flames me, remember, I am not an expert, just a guy with an
open ear and an open mind.

THE ROBBER BARON
From: darkelf@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Michael X. Wellck, God-in-Training)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Untraviolet
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:46:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: darkstar.32490
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing


In article <16570@plains.NoDak.edu> galster@plains.NoDak.edu (Dwight Galster) writes:
> [stuph deleted]

>A group of 21 (number may not be exact) prominent scientists signed a
>petition to the United Nations when they had their conference on global
>warming which declared the whole thing a hoax and urged the UN to stop
>this nonsense.

ozone depletion is NOT the same thing as global warming.
ozone depletion:  the chemical breakdown of the ozone layer
	by chlouroflourocarbons.
global warming:  the accumulation of certain gases (carbon dioxide,
	methane, etc.) that do not allow the radiant heat from the
	earth to exit the atmosphere.

> [stuph deleted]
>And what of the cost to integrity?

what of the cost of correct arguements?

Michael
From: paulh@tekcae.cax.tek.com (Paul Hammer)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Folkdancing nudists? (was Re: Women more modest?)
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:49:32 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

>I think the reason is that SCA folks (like folk-dancers and many others) are
>comfortable with who they are 

Heh heh heh,... right.  That's why SCA folks spend so much
time being who they aren't.
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From: middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Women more modest?
Date: 10 Apr 1992 05:09:34 GMT
Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD
NNTP-Posting-Host: poincare.ucsd.edu

In article <52746@mimsy.umd.edu> jerrys@umiacs.umd.edu (Jerry Sobieski) writes:
-bodies, and worse, some responsibility to maintain it.  This
-certainly doesn't require breast implants and face lifts, but IMO it
-does include avoiding excesses such as overeating, or eating the wrong
-types of food, personal hygene such bathing regularly, some modicum
-of physical fitness, etc.

Overeating is NATURAL for me and there are NO "wrong" foods.

-But there are so many
-aspects of our health that are related to appearance which we can control, 
-that I find it disappointing to see anyone who has lost that appreciation
-for their natural form, especially kindred naturists.
-
-However, its not my body.  So I shan't inform you of my distress unless
-you inquire of it:-)

My purpose in being a naturist is so my body can enjoy nature in its
natural (unclothed) state.  If that distresses you I do not apologize
because I am not there for you.  My health is my business.

In case you haven't guessed I found your posting a bit offensive.  It
seemed to me that you are too judgemental.

-- 
	Thomas Earl Middleton
	middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu
	aka Happy Bare
From: rbrbrn@meteor.wisc.edu (Rob Holmes)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: COZUMEL
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:14:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Meteorology and Space Science

I am currently planning on honeymooning in Cozumel in June. Does anyone know of
any CO beaches there?  Any other information  on Cozumel would also be nice.

Thanx in advance,

---
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-THE ROBBER BARON
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From: steve@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (Steve Pierce)
Subject: Free Beach Etiquette
Followup-To: steve@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (Steve Pierce)
Summary: Naturists "rules" of etiquette for CO Beach and park users
Keywords: Beach, Manners, Etiquette
Supersedes: <frbeeq_9203150000@rtfm.mlb.fl.us>
Organization: We don't need no stinkin' batches!
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:14:38 GMT
Expires: Fri, 15 May 1992 05:00:00 GMT

                          FREE BEACH ETIQUETTE
===============================================================================
Many people will insist that rules for proper behavior are not necessary since
any decent or intelligent person should know how to act.  On the other hand,
naturist organizations constantly contact unfamiliarized individuals.  We want
to leave no doubt as to what kind of people are advocates of clothes-optional
recreation!  Yes, naturists are nice people and we aim to keep it that way!

        + STAY OUT OF DUNES and other environmentally sensitive area.

        + OBEY PARKING REGULATIONS and other posted rules.

        + HELP WITH LITTER by bringing along a trash bag.  Carry out more
                than you brought in.

        + DON'T GO OUT OF ESTABLISHED NUDE AREAS.  To wander nude into a
                clothed beach or parking area will offend many.  It undermines
                our objectives.

        + NO OVERT SEXUAL ACTIVITY.  Leave exhibitionism to those attending
                clothed beaches.  Nude is not lewd, but combined with sex,
                undermines our image.

        + RESPECT THE PROPERTY OF OTHERS.

        + ASK PRIOR CONSENT FOR PHOTOGRAPHY.  People can't legally be stopped
                from taking pictures in public places.  However, asking per-
                mission is common courtesy.  Not everyone wants to end up in a
                stranger's photo album.  Parents should also be asked before
                children are photographed.

        + PRIVACY IS FUNDAMENTAL!  Many are at the beach for quiet time and
                don't want to be disturbed.  It is not wrong to go to the beach
                to make new friends - but it is rude to monopolize a person's
                time when the welcome mat was never put out.

        + COME PREPARED.  Bring beach supplies: beverage, food, chair,
                sunscreen, and towel.  Don't expect others to share these items.
                Mooching is offensive.

        + SPEAK UP FOR STANDARDS.  If a person seems unaware of beach etiquette,
                explain it, kindly and plainly.  Give them a copy of "FREE
                BEACH ETIQUETTE".  Don't let uncouth individuals ruin our
                fragile and beautiful place under the sun.
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