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From: mchenry@latech.edu (Michael Q. McHenry)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Sex Education in Public Schools
Date: 9 Jan 1993 19:52:30 GMT
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: vega.latech.edu

In article <1993Jan9.183703.2100@umr.edu> asparrow@mcs213a.cs.umr.edu (Angelia Sparrow) writes:
>In article <1993Jan8.205256.13847@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>>(comments about obscene books used for sex-ed deleted)
>>Reading this made me wish that 'Farenheit 451' was real.
>>'Burn the books, chop up the ashes, then burn the ashes'
>>                                       quote from '451'
>>Simon
>
>Why?
>Are you afraid of facts?  That masturbation does
>feel good?  That 4% of people are strictly homosexual
>and 4% are strictly het and the other 92% fall somewher
>in between?
>
>When they burn books, they will, in the end,
>burn people as well.
>
>I'd rather my kids be given the information from even
>a biased text than to find it out by experimentation
>or strteet myth.  A biased text they can filter through
>trheir own biases, but blatent misinformation is far more
>dangerous.

Here, here!  Absolutely.  But wait..  wouldn't it be easier to
make a nice text that says stuff like, "everyone in the world 
gets along great together," "there is no hate," "all men
respect women and never take advantage of them so there is
no such thing as rape," "all families have a mommy and a daddy."?

Bullshit.  This is the real world whether or not you choose to
accept it.  You may dislike it, and there are many things about
society that I dislike, and wish to change it, to make this A
Better World (tm), but burning books, banning truths, and building
fences will never change the world.

>Besides, let 'em learn about sex like I did:
>from Krafft-Ebbing's _Psychpathia Sexualis_.  After
>all, once good Christian parents have given you the
>same definition for sex and rape, what's to lose?
>
>Angel, pro-information, pro morality, pro responsibility

Hell, I don't remember my sex ed class in high school (8 years 
or so ago), probably because I didn't have on of those books.  
But I do wish that I had access to some of those books at the
time-- I could possibly have avoided some great mistakes and
even perhaps not be so s-s-sexually fr-fr-frustrated as I am
today.  (but it does go well with my societal frustration)

Q- pro-whatever, anti-fanatic, pro existence

-- 
Quinn McHenry                 "If you would be a real seeker after truth, it
mchenry@engr.latech.edu        is necessary that at least once in your life
Biomedical Engineering         you doubt, as far as possible, all things."
Louisiana Tech University                   - Rene Descartes
From: popec@unkaphaed.gbdata.com (William C. Barwell)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: CM Braun
Keywords: Liberals
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 02:29:40 GMT
Organization: Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy, Houston, TX

kkopp@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (koppenhoefer kyle cramm) writes:

> popec@unkaphaed.gbdata.com (William C. Barwell) writes:
> 
> >kkopp@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (koppenhoefer kyle cramm) writes:
> 
> >>    Several days ago I posted a flame on CMB and no liberals have stepped u
> >> to defend Ms. Braun.  Could it be that they realized the mistake they made
> >> in electing her?
> >> 
> >>    Does anyone have a reference on the elections stats for Ms. Braun?  I 
> >> understand that she won 95% in Chicago and didn't win a single county, but
> >> I don't want to go around quoting wrong numbers.
> >> 
> 
> 
> >It could be that as bad as she is, she is still 10 times better than the 
> >republican she ran against. Enough people thought she was indeed better.  
> >Otherwise, they would have not voted for her.
> 
>   Are you sure she isn't just 9.5 times better than Rich Williamson (that's
> the name you couldn't remember).  
> 
> 
> >Obviously nobody cares about your petty,vicious, picayune political 
> >complaints, now do they?
> 
>   So, if an unqualified person is elected to the SENATE, and they do nothing
> from election to swearing in to their office, then this is petty, vicious,
> picayune politics?  I understand now.  I expected someone to care about the
> quality of their government.  Sorry, I will not post such drivel anymore.
> 
> >I'll bet she wins re-election too.
> 
>   Considering the reelection rate of Congress, that's a safe bet.  Of course,
> no one ever said that performance and reward are linked in Congress nowdays.
> 
> >Get a life, kid.
> 
>  That was a smart comment.  With intellect like this on the net I guess I sho
> just stay at home and play with my toys.  Were did you get this KID shit from
> anyway?
> 


You posted a flame, says you and so expected ..... ?  
I just played the game you said you wanted to play and I get falmed for 
answering a self described flame with a flame.  I work my fingers to the 
bone to keep you entertained and what thanks do I get?  Hmmmph.
No flame for you.  There happy?    Kid!

?s

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From: libwca@emory.edu (Bill Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.correct
Subject: Re: Talking bout Rush and the Great Conspiracy
Date: 6 Jan 93 13:34:10 GMT
Followup-To: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

pyotr@halcyon.com (Peter D. Hampe) writes:
: I think Rush is turning into a litmus test
: for _civility_.  The boss where I work has him
: on his radio, and because I'm on the floor I can't
: have a headset, so I've a transistor radio in my shirt.
: (Love that old fashioned technology).  What piques my
: ire is that the snide responses - I guess it is a 
: liberal genetic defect leaving them unable to pronnounce
: "Limbaugh".  Selah.

'mon, man- you conservatives are such a humorless lot.  Aren't
we allowed to have a little fun with the man's name?  Huh?

: 
: On the Great Conspiracy: what can I say.  Listening to my
: leftist coworkers (they are proud of that label, they
: consider The US Government to be the fount of All Evil
: in the world.  More later.)  The day after the election they
: were down cast. They KNEW that the Republican Masters had
: allowed Clinton to be ellected in order to have a Democrat
: at the helm when they restructured the world finacial
: order.
: 
: Oh well - as the old cliche has it, Conservatives think
: that Liberals are wrong; Liberals think that Conservatives
: are stupid.
: chus
: pyotr
: 
 Except for Rush, who thinks liberals are part of an evil,
 insidious conspiracy to destroy the American Way of Life.
 
 Bill
 : 
: 
: -- 
: Pyotr aka Peter D. Hampe : eka pyotr@halcyon.com
: Next Month's Panel: Us and Them - Eliminating Them.
: EOF
: -- 
: Pyotr aka Peter D. Hampe : eka pyotr@halcyon.com
: Next Month's Panel: Us and Them - Eliminating Them.
: EOF
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From: mykes@shell.portal.com (mike myke schwartz)
Subject: Re: Bush's Pardons
Organization: Portal Communications Company
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:54:52 GMT

William Crosmun (crosmun@crosmun.rtp.dg.com) wrote:
: In article <9PJZwB9w165w@unkaphaed.gbdata.com> popec@unkaphaed.gbdata.com (William C. Barwell) writes:
: >gerberrl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Richard L. Gerberding) writes:
: 
: >date, tho' Ollie and Poindexter slipped the noose due to the help of 
: >Conservatives in Congress with their ill advised "immunity".   Experts 
: >said that would make it hard to convict and they were right, damn it.
: >  But in the end, Walsh caught Weinberger RED HANDED.  The bastard stated 
: >under oath more than once he did not have notes, while he indeed did.
: 
: (Sharp intake of breath as we realize the magnitude of the crime) Weinberger 
: said he did not have notes!! And he did!!  String him up!!  But wait, didn't 
: Clinton say on national TV that he would push for a middle class tax cut, 
: would halve the deficit in four years, and would not raise taxes on the middle
: class?  How come lying to Congress is so heinous but lying to the American people
: isn't?  
: 

A shame nobody listens to Weinberger's side of the story.  The accused has
no rights to defend himself, apparently.  According to Weinberger, when he
was asked about notes, he did not even consider that his DIARY was the kind
of notes asked about.  Weinberger kept no minutes or notes specific to the
meetings in question, so he told the truth and said NO.  I wonder why the
incompetent Walsh didn't ask about DIARIES?  Hmmm?

: >
: >Pope Charles      No Slack for this bunch of fools.
: >Lawrence Walsh, the only true hero so far in this whole sorry mess.
: >
: >--
: >popec@unkaphaed.gbdata.com (William C. Barwell)
: >Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy, Houston, TX, (713) 481-3763
: >1200/2400/9600/14400 v.32bis/v.42bis
: 
: 
: ===============================================================================
: 
: William Crosmun
: crosmun@dg-rtp.dg.com
: 
: ===============================================================================
: "Thanksgiving Day.  In the days of our  founders, they  were  willing to give
:  thanks for mighty little, for mighty little was all they expected.  But now,
:  neither government nor  nature  can  give  enough but what we think it's too
:  little.  Those old boys  in  the fall of the year, if they could gather in a
:  few pumpkins, potatoes and some corn for the winter, they were in a thanking
:  mood.  If we can't gather in a new  Buick, a  new  radio, a  tuxedo and some 
:  government relief, why, we feel that the world is against us."
: 
: 												Will Rogers
: 
: ===============================================================================
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.women,alt.child-support,talk.abortion
From: ARCHER@utkvm1.utk.edu (T. Archer)
Subject: Re: What can we expect from President Hillary Clinton?
Organization: University of Tennessee 
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:43:28 GMT

In article <C0qyqB.Ez1@unix.portal.com> mykes@shell.portal.com (mike myke schwartz) writes:
>were created during their combined 12 years in office?  If you also
>are an anti-reagan fanatic/fool, what do you make of the 20,000,000
>NEW jobs that were created during his 8 years in office, which included
>a recession MUCH worse than the one during Bush's term?

Not to say that this isn't a valid subject, but could be get it out of alt.
sex, please?
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From: cstone@husc8.harvard.edu (christopher stone)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Clinton and the deficit
Date: 13 Jan 93 03:59:02 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1iv5vvINNo4c@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> pearsodc@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU writes:
>Gary James Patalsky <gp2f+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>
>>Clinton is already using an $18 billion increase in the predicted
>>deficit to back out of his promise to half the budget by the end of his
>>4 year term.  Interestingly, Clinton had estimated the deficit during
>>the campaign at $400 billion, making the deficit $80 billion below his
>>own estimates.
>>
>>Also, it seems that he will not be lowering the taxes of the middle
>>class, as he had promised.
>
>Comments, Clinton supporters?  Here was this great moderate president elect, 
>supposed to be able to feel our pain, help us get through, help jobs get 
>created, etc., etc., etc., and now number one priority is cutting the deficit.
>
>So why the heck didn't Bill Clinton say ANY of this during his campaign?
>
>Rush is asking a very good, very viable question these days.  Just where is the
>soul of Bill Clinton?  Is Clinton doing all of this out of genuine concern for
>the nation or does he have another agenda?  And if he honestly feels that 
>deficit reduction takes precedence over getting the economy going in his first
>100 days (which is what he said he'd do during the campaign!) then my wasn't
>he honest about it right off the bat?
>
>The more I see from Slick, the more he absolutely scares me.

First of all, I do not necessarily see a contradiction between reducing
the deficit and getting the economy going.  Don't forget that in the
absence of a sizable deficit, all that money that is going to pay
interest on the national debt could be used for more productive purposes
such as rebuilding our national infrastructure or so on.  Secondly, and
more importantly, the supporters of Ross Perot made it quite clear
that they are placing deficit reduction at the top of our list of
national priorities.  Perot, like Clinton, favored a more proactive role
for the government in the economy, but to him the deficit was more 
important than a quick infusion of Kenyesian-syle cash.  Clinton is trying
to address their concerns.  Perot's economic plan was more thoughtful
than Bush's, IMHO.
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From: pajerek@telstar.kodak.com (Don Pajerek)
Subject: Re: Conservative?  Hahaha....
Reply-To: pajerek@telstar.kodak.com (Don Pajerek)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. - Telstar
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:23:17 GMT

In article <1idjb7INNhaf@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder) writes:
>
>One wonders if the conversion of the Civil Rights movement from one that
>originally preached equal treatment for all races to one that is little
>more than a mad scramble for preferential treatment and quotas had anything
>to do with how easily Coloradans could be convinced that Gay Rights was
>just a cover for more of the same excesses that were committed in the name
>of Civil Rights. The Wall Street Journal had an op-ed piece by the editor
>of some Colorado newspaper (the Rocky Mountain News, I think) that made that
>point.
>


Quite a bit, no doubt. The agenda of the civil rights movement has changed
from 'equality of opportunity' to 'equality of result', and this is a
philosophy that is repugnant to most Americans.

I don't think, however, that gays are particularly guilty of this. I haven't
heard, for example, of many gay groups calling for AA for gays. The demand
for AA has (so far) been mostly confined to the race & gender 'rights'
activists.


>Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu


Don Pajerek

Standard disclaimers apply.
From: kellyj@leland.Stanford.EDU (Kelly Johnson)
Subject: Re: Lifestyle Choices and Secular Reasoning
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 18:36:29 GMT

In article <u102wB2w165w@unkaphaed.gbdata.com> popec@unkaphaed.gbdata.com (William C. Barwell) writes:
>If one believes by faith that 2 + 2 = 5, does faith make that so?  If the 
>basic assumptions of Creationism are false and palpably untrue, does 
>faith somehow turn that falasity into truth?  No.  QED
>
>Pope Charles
>
>--

This is ridiculous.  Of sourse faith can't make 2 + 2 = 5, but
believing that God does not exist does not make it true either.
It is either true or not.  We may not be able to figure it out
or prove it, but... it is either true or not true.

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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Friday, 8 Jan 1993 23:14:06 EST
From: Kevin Foss <IO20816@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams,alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: What does bis mean? (was What does Mk II mean?)
 <1ij7tgINNmgs@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <1993Jan8.214256.16082@pixel.kodak.com>

In article <1993Jan8.214256.16082@pixel.kodak.com>, john@liebnitz.ssd.kodak.com
(John Hall) says:
>What does "bis" mean, as in "V.32 bis"?  From context it appears to mean
>something like "Mk II".

It's Latin for "twice", and means likes a second standard.  CCITT, also
adhers to the using of 'ter' which means "three times" in defining one of
third generation standards.  One of the fax communications definitions
uses a 'ter'.  I think it means a much an extension of the former, as in
V.32 bis modems only has its ownmodem connections definitions, not the old
stuff PLUS the new.  In other words bis, or at least in the world of data
communication means more like 'addendum' then a whole product which
incorporates the old as well as the new.  Maybe a HHGTG bis, would only
have contained new definitions, and nothing from the old; unlike the
HHGTG Mk II, which we can assume was the previous volume, with a whole slew
of new 'features', and information.
-Kevin
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From: mei141@cck.coventry.ac.uk (PH)
Subject: Re: why is arthur dent saved?
Organization: Coventry University
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:28:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.2520.3426@dosgate> "davidr turner" <davidr.turner@canrem.com> writes:
>MH>Hello, I am rereading the first book, Hitchhikers Guide, and have
>MH>a question. Is there any reason that Ford Prefect decides to take
>MH>poor Arthur along with him?
>
>One thing you'll learn soon enough - if you're going to stop & ask
>questions when you don't understand something, you'll still be on
>chapter 1 when you retire... <gr>
>
>They've been friends for the 15 years Ford was stuck on Earth.
                              ^^
			      Not friends for 15, but about 5 or 6 years.
Remember that Ford asks Arthur how long they have known each other?  It provoked
the answer:

	APD:  About 5 years.  Most of it seemed to make sense at the time.
	FP:   Drink up.  The worlds about to end.


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From: mckeonj@ul.ie
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams,alt.usage.english
Subject: Mark & pole
Date: 9 Jan 93 09:10:13 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

In article <1ij7tgINNmgs@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Kevin Charles Rubio) writes:
> In article <1ihv08INNd1s@coli-gate.coli.uni-sb.de> muehlen@fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de (Ralf Muehlen) writes:
>>Does anybody know what the  'MK II' means in 'The Guide Mk II'.
> 
> It means "Mark Two."  `Mark' is a way of designating version numbers
> for objects (as opposed to software) or devices in English.
> The word itself comes from an Old English word meaning `boundary'.  How
> that came to mean any old marks is another matter.  Let's just put it
> down to plain old misuse.
Another use, or possibly misuse, is the word "marque" used to
denote a particular make & model of sports/racing car. The same
sport also gives us another wonderful misuse: writers will refer
to e.g. Nigel Mansell as holding the "pole" position, meaning
that he is in the lead. They have misheard the word "poll",
meaning head.
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From: mei141@cck.coventry.ac.uk (PH)
Subject: Re: TIFF Specification
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:41:23 GMT

In article <matt-070193092840@wardmac2.med.yale.edu> matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu (Matt Healy) writes:
>The official specification for the TIFF image file
>format requires a certain "magic number" in the
>header field that programs look for, to identify
>the file as being a TIFF file.  Guess what value
>they chose?
>
>The *official* spec goes on to say this value was
>chosen for its "deep philosophical significance"!!!
>
>I am not making this up!  I recently had to convert
>some files and I needed a way to recognize TIFF so
>I went and looked at the official specs.
>
>Matt Healy
>"I pretend to be a network administrator; the lab
> net pretends to work!"
>
>matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu


What is TIFF????



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From: thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle)
Subject: Re: MH for $14.95 <flamebait>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:28:43 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <24888@galaxy.ucr.edu> lulu@ucrengr.ucr.edu (david lu) writes:
>
>from them before.  So for those of you who still haven't
>got around of buying the book, $14.95 is about $5 less

Anyone else think that $14.95 is about $14.95 too much for the pile of
dreck that masquerades as a book by an author that I really like?
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From: simon@fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de (Julia Simon)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Need help to get MH
Date: 12 Jan 1993 08:25:42 GMT
Organization: Fachschaft Computerlinguistik, U of Saarland, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de

S_HEYDEN@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (von der Heyden Joern) writes:
> I got a little problem. Right now it is impossiple to get MH in Germany
> and i am really interested in getting it.

No, it's not impossible - I got it from one of our local bookstores here in
Saarbruecken! They just had to order it from the UK, and it took them some
months to send it to Germany.

But having books delivered from abroad usually is quite expensive, especially
if you order just one or two. (I had to pay DM 65!!!)

			Julia 8-)

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From: 000354n@axe.acadiau.ca (JAMES ANDREW NORTON)
Subject: Re: Mostly Harmless on cassette
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:27:31 GMT

In article <C0Jutq.Ezy@mach1.wlu.ca> john7552@mach1.wlu.ca (Niall Johnson u) writes:
>From: john7552@mach1.wlu.ca (Niall Johnson u)
>Subject: Re: Mostly Harmless on cassette
>Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:15:26 GMT

>In article <1ijbmmINNqc@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bd053@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph C. Wynn) writes:
>>Has anyone listened to Mostly Harmless on the 4 cassette version.  As it 
>>takes me a few hours to get back to school, I decided to buy the audio version
>>of this book.  I have not yet finished the last cassette, but so far it is very
>>interesting.
>>By the way, it is approx. 6 hours long, unabridged, and read by the author.
>>
>>Is this the first of his books to be on tape?

>No. There are various books, radio series, etc. that have been released on
>CD/tape. One of the better ones is Adams reading "Last Chance to See" -
>however, this is a slightly abridged adpatation of the book - its only 2
>tapes. Pretty good though.

>Ciao

>Niall Johnson,                  "Time flies when you do most of your real work
>Dept. of Geography,              after midnight - five months can go by and it
>Wilfrid Laurier University.      feels like one sleepless night."
>     john7552@mach1.wlu.ca                              Hunter S. Thompson


There is also a recording of Douglas Adams (I believe) reading THHGTG.  It 
is also slightly abridged, but it does have a very interesting version of 
the song "Old Janx Spirit."  
					James
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