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From: chris.mathis@madness.network23.com (Chris Mathis) 
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
Subject: RE: STUPID TOURISTS
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:19:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: chris.mathis@madness.network23.com (Chris Mathis) 

-> I'm all for it! When do we leave???
->
-> Then you would be considered a stupid tourist in france.

That's ok, the babes man! The babes! :+)

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From: chris.mathis@madness.network23.com (Chris Mathis) 
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
Subject: RE: STUPID TOURISTS
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:22:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: chris.mathis@madness.network23.com (Chris Mathis) 

-> I'm so sorry, when did you go back?
->
-> What do you mean when did I got back?  Go back where, to being good.
-> Lord, I have always been good.

To school! I herd that you are one of thoes young innocent
children... :+)


                        NOT!   heh heh

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From: gcote@crchh74f.BNR.CA (Gary Cote)
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
Subject: Corruption stories?
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:14:06 GMT
Reply-To: gcote@crchh74f.BNR.CA (Gary Cote)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

I too have recently been trying to explain Rhode Island corruption, but
to a group of Texans.
Being displaced for the past couple years, I was only able to relate but
a couple examples.
Perhaps people could post a line or two regarding their favorite
corruption tale.  Then I
would be able to relate why RI is known as the nation's most corrupt state.

I was able to tell them about the Woonsocket murder (I lived down the
street!) that went
unsolved for years until somebody realized that the culprit had a
relative on the police force. (not sure if this had a single source)

My favorite was the story that Bruce Sundlun had an unofficial campaign
slogan along the lines
of "Vote for me, I'm too rich to be bought off!"  (according to my
history teacher)

BTW, sources are always a valuable thing to have.  If you've got them,
include them, but don't
think of them as a pre-requisite.


others?
GC
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
From: grega@daphni.world (Greg Alonso)
Subject: STUPID PLANNING (was RE: STUPID TOURISTS)
Organization: /home/grega/.organization
Distribution: alt.rhode_island
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:38:55


In article <162.22.uupcb@madness.network23.com>
mike.mendis@madness.network23.com (Mike Mendis) writes:

   -> Complaining about the tourists SEEMS to be the thing to do. 
   -> It seems to be the thing to do, because, hell, we need them. ...
   -> ...It is kinda like they say a "Love hate relationship"...

I LOVE RI, especially sourthern RI, lived in Narr, worked in Newport.
And I would agree with you in hating the tourist season, but it's not
their fault.  The problem is the town planning.  If they could make
things easier for everyone (natives and tourists alike) if they
planned for it. Create parking areas, encourage mass transportation
using shuttles, build more bike paths to promote less car use, etc,
things would be more enjoyable for everyone.

In a similar problem you have probably experienced going to Martha's
Vineyard.  It is a zoo!  Everyone (on the island) hates the mopeds and
bikes, yet there is little to encourage a cooperative environment.  MV
more than any place needs the tourism (Newport does have businesses),
yet they do very little to welcome you, everyone just wants your
cash... "give me your money and go to france", right.  Give me your
car and take a walk!


Most problems in a small tourist area is transportation.  Any solution
addressing transportation can make a world of difference.

Having moved to the DC/VA/MD area recently I am suprised at some of
the things they have...  over 600 mi of bike trails.  One bike trail
is 42mi long!  Parks everywhere. At the beach (Rehoboth beach) I
parked in Public parking for $3 a day with a free shuttle to/from the
beach!  That's a great deal.

I still think of RI as home and miss it though.


IMHO

grega@verdix.com
From: peg@cs.washington.edu (Peter Granger)
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
Subject: Found on my windshield...
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:28:32 GMT
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle


So there I was, leaving beautiful Gas Works Park, after a leisurely
afternoon of kite flying, and I found the following scratched out on a
scrap of pink paper, stuck under my windshield wiper...

  "Couldn't help but say howdy to a fellow Ro Dilander.
   What youse doin' so fah from home?"

Warmed my little transplanted heart. He/she even got the accent right.
Now if only the note had been signed...

Other notes on the transplanting of Providence to Seattle:

As I was hitching my car to the truck in front of my Hope Street
apartment, moments away from my final departure, an old friend of mine
happened by. She told me that another friend of hers, at that very
moment, was also loading up a truck and preparing to head for Seattle.

A few weeks back, coming home from the Bite of Seattle (much bigger,
more varied, and more expensive than the good ol' Pasta Challenge), I
was talking to strangers on the bus. A young woman next to me, hearing
that I was from Providence, piped up that she had graduated from
Brown. As if this weren't enough, two *more* women behind her looked
shocked and said, "So did we!" What are the odds of that?

And, on another kite-flying expedition (again in Gas Works Park), I
noticed a guy wearing a "Lippitt for Mayor" T-shirt. I said to him,
"That wouldn't be *Fred* Lippitt, would it?" Yes, it would, he said.
"Fred Lippitt, for Mayor of *Providence*?" I asked. Yes, he said. "Are
you from Providence, then?" No, he said, but his friend over there
(pointing) had lived there and worked on the campaign. We spent a half
hour or so exchanging corrupt Rhode Island politics stories.

So, if you ever feel like moving someplace a little more interesting
than Providence, you may feel right at home in Seattle. You may not be
able to get a coffee milk, but there are half a dozen variations on
the theme available.

  - Pete
    (Who has found replacements for everything but Minerva's eggplant
     pizza)
-- 
--------
 Pete Granger                     "Emacs sucks. But you get used to it."
 peg@cs.washington.edu              - anonymous
From: chris.mathis@madness.network23.com (Chris Mathis) 
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
Subject: RE: STUPID TOURISTS
Date: 3 Sep 92 01:39:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: chris.mathis@madness.network23.com (Chris Mathis) 

q
-> It would be easier if they just gave us the money and went to france.
-> france, has nice beaches (The women dont know what a bathing suit is,
-> hell they dont have a word for it in french (grin)), things to look
-> at (more women, and more women), and things to do (well, you get the
-> idea). mike

 I'm all for it! When do we leave???

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From: mike.mendis@madness.network23.com (Mike Mendis) 
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
Subject: RE: STUPID TOURISTS
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:23:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: mike.mendis@madness.network23.com (Mike Mendis) 

-> Complaining about the tourists SEEMS to be the thing to do. It seems
-> to be the thing to do, because, hell, we need them. BUT, we would
-> rather not have to deal with the "Effects" of thier pressence. I
-> would rather NOT have any of the tourists here, ( unless they were
-> beautiful woman!) (smile damit!) but still want the money they spend
-> here. Newport NEEDS it. It is kinda like they say a "Love hate
-> relationship". I know that they are good for Newport, but go home!
-> Still I say, I HATE the Tour busses!!! They hold up traffic just so
-> the tourists can get a  better look at the mansions! I know! I
-> know!!! But hell, I have to get somewhere!!!!

It would be easier if they just gave us the money and went to france.
france, has nice beaches (The women dont know what a bathing suit is,
hell they dont have a word for it in french (grin)), things to look at
(more women, and more women), and things to do (well, you get the idea).
mike
                                                             
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
From: plw@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (White)
Subject: Rhode Island > Seattle
Organization: Raytheon Company
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:53:38 GMT

Yep, a buddy of mine moved from Rhode Island to the Seattle area.
He had a difficult time trying to tell the Seattlites that the Mafia
really existed and how disgustingly corrupt this state gov't is in 
Rhode Island. . .

For some reason he just could not get them to believe.  After a while
he understood.  The front page news scandal in Seattle was that some
high school band director owned a travel agency and booked some of the
band's trips through his agency.  That was the extent of the scandal.

He now figures that either the crooks are smarter in the state of 
Washington and avoid getting caught or that Rhode Island does have a
severe human parasitic infestation.

He's really happy he moved.

===========================================
Paul White
plw@ray.com
My opinions do not reflect those of Raytheon
===========================================
From: chris.mathis@madness.network23.com (Chris Mathis) 
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
Subject: RE: STUPID TOURISTS
Date: 3 Sep 92 01:41:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: chris.mathis@madness.network23.com (Chris Mathis) 

q
-> Can you please not swear on the network.  There are children reading
-> these messages, and may start using them in terms papers, because one
-> chris mathis is trying to decribe some people in a not so nice way.
-> mike

 I'm so sorry, when did you go back?

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From: JEFF-G@cup.portal.com (Jeff - Griffin)
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
Subject: RACK 'N RHYTHM - WORCESTE, MAR
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 03:20:14 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

RACK 'N RHYTHM  100 Grove Street   Worcester, MA is pleased to announce its'
                   - GRAND OPENING - September 10, 1992 -
20 Brunswick Gold Crown III top-of-the-line tables, a full bar with imported
and domestic beers, experienced staff to prepare your favorite mixed drink,
and a wide selection of non-alcoholic beverages for the 'designated_driver'
 
Featured Guest (6:00 to 10:00 PM) ->  28 year old EWA MATAYA
 #1 ranked Female pool player in the World
 The *only* professional pool player on the Brunswick staff
 Featured on the Cover of the New York Times magazine
 Guest appearances on; David Letterman, Regis Philbin, CNBC, and many more.

Ms. Mataya will be demonstrating a variety of techniques and shots that you
can include in your game.  Ms. Mataya will also play against RACK 'N RHYTHM
house-pro, Ken Perry, (1979 Fresno (CA) World Open 8 Ball Champion).
 
Join in the festivities, watch the pro's make it look 'easy', sip your
favorite cocktail, order a great sandwich (6 varieties - $3.00 each), and 
Dance to the music on the largest Gold Crown III 'table' in the world!
 
RACK 'N RHYTHM is located in the Northworks Complex and is easily accessible
via Rtes. 9, 122, 146, 290, and 495.
From: lynda.beaulieu@madness.network23.com (Lynda Beaulieu) 
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
Subject: RACK 'N RHYTHM - WORCESTE
Date: 3 Sep 92 11:46:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: lynda.beaulieu@madness.network23.com (Lynda Beaulieu) 

-> RACK 'N RHYTHM  100 Grove Street   Worcester, MA is pleased to
-> announce its'                 - GRAND OPENING - September 10, 1992 -

--- Does this bar have live music?
                                                                                  
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Rob Butera)
Subject: Re: STUPID PLANNING (was RE: STUPID TOURISTS)
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 05:04:26 GMT

In article <GREGA.92Sep3123855@daphni.world>, grega@daphni.world (Greg Alonso) writes:
|> 
|> In a similar problem you have probably experienced going to Martha's
|> Vineyard.  It is a zoo!  Everyone (on the island) hates the mopeds and
|> bikes, yet there is little to encourage a cooperative environment.  MV
|> more than any place needs the tourism (Newport does have businesses),
|> yet they do very little to welcome you, everyone just wants your
|> cash... "give me your money and go to france", right.  Give me your
|> car and take a walk!
|> 

Well, having been to both many summers, my 2 cents.  I'm of the opinion
that the Martha's Vineyarders are much less complaining about the tourists
than the Newporters are.  Sure, they don't love it, but if you get out of 
Oak Bluffs and Vineyard Haven its not too bad.  I think "da vineyard"
benefits from all the mopeds and bikes - think of what a nightmare that
Island would be if there was a bridge or EVERY visitor brought cars!

(a native Rhode Islander, with a strong bias towards the Cape after spending
the first 17 summers of my life there ... )

-- 
Rob Butera - ECE grad student   Rice University, Houston, TX   rbutera@rice.edu
"I sensed that we were sending arms.  And I sensed we were trying to
 get hostages out.  But not arms for hostages." - George Bush, January, 1988
From: mike.mendis@madness.network23.com (Mike Mendis) 
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
Subject: RE: STUPID TOURISTS
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:30:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: mike.mendis@madness.network23.com (Mike Mendis) 

-> uncareing, selfish, I don't give a shit attitude. And it's thoes
                                      ^^^^
Can you please not swear on the network.  There are children reading
these messages, and may start using them in terms papers, because one
chris mathis is trying to decribe some people in a not so nice way.
mike
                                                             
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: jyoung@Cadence.COM (John Young)
Subject: Re: Name this band
Keywords: What band, title etc.
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:12:46 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.134541.8702@daimi.aau.dk> jpsdiry@daimi.aau.dk (J|rn Poulsen) writes:
>What band, title and records:
>
>    "Flee now in terror, as darkness descends"
>
>-- 
Could it be Dark Angel's "Darkness Descends"all records are good(If they're
the old stuff,not this metallif@g crap!!!)
		  THE POPE)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: Grindcore (was Re: BOLT THROWER!)
From: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 04:24:32 GMT
Reply-To: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ


In article <1992Aug30.224202.9172@leland.Stanford.EDU>, bard@jessica.stanford.edu (David Hopper) writes:
>In article <37149@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> bruss@cs.ucsd.edu (Brian Russ) writes:
>
>>>And whats some GOOD death industrial bands out there besides Godflesh and
>>>Pitchshifter? I checked out Scorns _Vae Solis_ LP and it kicks ass, but
>>>not in that brutal agressive type of way, like the death like tracks of
>>>Pslam 69<Ministry>, and Godflesh _Street Cleaner_..Any ideas? Any one?
>>>Anywhere??
>

Head Of David - Seed State
              - LP

Terminal Cheesecake - Angels In Pigtails
		      VCL

Another band from New Zealand that kicks some arse, is Head Like A Hole,
they have released an album 13 on Wildside records.

--
Red
 



Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: mmanchip@cs1.uct.ac.za (MG MANCHIP)
Subject: Amon
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 07:56:25 GMT

Being an intense DEICIDE fan my ears pricked up when I was told about Amon.
Apparently this was the name of Deicide before they became DEICIDE.
Is there anything available that they released as Amon and if so how can
I get hold of it?

Thanks

SLOTU
(Supreme Leader of the Universe)
Organization: Freshman, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:36:04 -0400 
From: Michael Raymond Cote <mc7g+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Obituary Tour Info?

I am interested in Pittsburgh dates (if available) for the
Obituary/Malevolent Creation tour.

Also, I am interested in tour dates for the Campaign for Musical
Destruction tour with Carcass and Napalm Death.  Any info on any death
gigs in Pittsburgh would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

--Michael Cote

"...with the darkening light..."
                      =Obituary

Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: equnlivn@unix1.tcd.ie (Eoin P. O'Coindealbhain)
Subject: Re: Grindcore (was Re: BOLT THROWER!)
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 08:22:48 GMT

In <1992Aug30.224202.9172@leland.Stanford.EDU> bard@jessica.stanford.edu (David Hopper) writes:

>Look for a compilation CD called 'GrindCrusher', on the Earache label.
>It's got a number of deathcore/grindcore bands to blow your ears out.
>Most of it is closer to death metal, like Nocturnus and Intense Degree.

		A note of warning,I bought the Intense Degree album
	(name escapes me)on the strength of the song on 'GC' but was
	in the end greatly dissapointed(the only half decent tune is
	an instramental "The 3 Jays"),the original 'GC' tune isn't even
	on the album.
		Also 'GrindCrusher' doesn't have Nocturnus,this is on
	'EssentialGrind'(I think thats the name).This is a double album
	w/ most of 'GC' on it but w/ a lot of other groups as well.
	IMHO 'GC' is the better album at half the price and w/o any bad
	groups(pity this can't be said for 'EG')-(I have both albums).


_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 
  Eoin P.O'Coindealbhain |  D U B L I N |   
   equnlivn@unix1.tcd.ie |    \  D  /   |   "In the past it was easy to be 
  Trinity College Dublin |D     \ /    C|     a Real Man.All you had to do
- - - - - - - - - - - - -|E   D _?_ C  O|     was abuse women, steal lands
 " You think you'll win  |T     /|\    R|     from  the Indians and find a  
 But some day you'll fall|H   /  C  \  P|     place to dump the toxic waste"
   And I'll be waiting." |    C I T Y   |  		-Bruce Feirstein
- - - -(SEPULTURA)- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: reichewr@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Subject: Similarities
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:26:41 GMT


Yo- I'm a big fan of Alien Jourgenson.  I know he has had his hands in  
great thrash like Ministry, Revolting Cocks, and Lard.  Anybody know any  
other industrial/tharsh/what the fuck he plays with?
Xref: sparky alt.thrash:1427 alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy:2753
Newsgroups: alt.thrash,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: THE POPE SPEAKS(yep,again)
From: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:48:32 GMT
Reply-To: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
 <1992Aug21.062857.24706@peponi.wcc.govt.nz>,<1992Aug31.161738.10293@Cadence.COM>
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ

In article <1992Aug31.161738.10293@Cadence.COM>, noah@Cadence.COM (Noah Ruiz) writes:
>
>I don't understand this has nothing to do with what John said!!!!
>And who cares besides Red!!!!
>
>Blue

Fuck you too, Blue

--
Red
From: bruss@cs.ucsd.edu (Brian Russ)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: Deathrow
Date: 3 Sep 92 03:12:11 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

In article <1992Aug31.185909.14541@Cadence.COM> jyoung@Cadence.COM (John Young) writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.090735.438@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> zool175@csc.canterbury.ac.nz writes:
>>I recently heard what I consider is a pretty cool song on the radio - the
>>DJ said it was from an album called "Deception Ignored" by Deathrow but didn't
>>name the song.  I'm thinking about getting this album on cd but I want to know
>>what people think of it.
>>
>>The song I heard had some interesting time changes and classical sort of licks.
>
>I don't know about this,but I have the first two DeathRow albums and they both
>shred.My particular fav is "Riders of Doom"

	Deathrow put out three albums -- the third was "Deception Ignored",
but it has little resemblance to the first two, which were pretty
standard Slayer-esque Germanic thrash.  On the third one they branched
out, trying to go for a technical/progressive thrash sound.  Normally
I love albums like this, but in this case I felt the band wasn't
quite ready to do this sort of thing -- the arrangements were forced,
somehow, and the musicianship wasn't as good as what they were trying
to play.  I wouldn't call it a bad album at all, but uneven.  Actually
I was looking forward to their next one, hoping that they would expand
on this direction and master it -- but "Deception" is now a number
of years old, so I suspect the band might have folded ...

					Brian
-- 
Brian Russ
CSE Department, UC San Diego
..!sdcsvax!bruss	bruss@beowulf.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: gdoherty@unix1.tcd.ie (Eru)
Subject: Re: Death Albums ????
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:46:23 GMT

In <5236@sersun1.essex.ac.uk> cowen@essex.ac.uk (Chris Cowen) writes:


>	Are the later albums as good as the first two??
The two later albums are "Spiritual Healing" and "Human".
"Spiritual Healing" is fairly weak, but human is almost as good
as "Leprosy" (Their best, IMHO).

>	Cheers, 
>	Chris.

	Gavin.
--
"What is a finite automaton?"         / Gavin Doherty
"Deterministic or nondeterministic?" / Computer Science
"I don't know"                      / Trinity College Dublin 
"AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!"         / gdoherty@unix1.tcd.ie
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx02.louisville.edu (Shaitan)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: BOLT THROWER!
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:10:00 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1992Aug22.052337.20987@news.ysu.edu>, aa361@yfn.ysu.edu (Tom Puncekar)           writes...

I have their album In Battle There Is No Law & this was enough for me to get a
T Shirt. . .thus I know that the Warmaster T-shirt is available.  I got mine in
Washington, DC a few weeks ago on vacation.  I don't know if the place does
mail order, but here's the info just the same:

Smash!
<Bobby Polsky>   
3279 M ST., N.W.
Washington, DC
(202) 33-SMASH

--Shaitan--
Newsgroups: alt.thrash