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From: cuegf@dcatla.uucp
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Xanax
Date: 15 Jul 92 17:55:06 GMT
Organization: Digital Communications Associates, Alpharetta, GA

In article <15615@pitt.UUCP>, geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks) writes:
> even for insominiacs.  In my experience,
> most patients who get on Xanax are on it or some similar drug
> for the rest of their lives.

This statement demonstrates bias against and ignorance of modern
psychopharmacology.

First of all, benzodiazepines are mis-prescribed, of course that's
true. So are many non-psychiatric drugs, like anti-biotics, anti-
hypertensives, and other drugs for "physical" illnesses.

There are many individuals in this country who have chronic 
psychiatric conditions, particularly the depressive disorders,
who must remain on psychoactive agents for the rest of their
lives to preclude symptoms of their disease.  These include panic
disorders, too.  SOME individuals with panic disorders are 
treated with benzodiazepines for a lifetime, BECAUSE their 
illness is chronic.  Research in the last 10-15 years has largely
indicated that some anxiety disoders are chronic and have a 
biological basis, like hypertension, arthritis, etc.

You would not say "My experience has shown me that most patients
who get on (name of a vasodialator) and other such drugs stay on
them for the rest of their lives", implying, like in the quoted
post, that this drug application is unfounded or a sign of 
weakness.  Of course you wouldn't.  So why look at psychiatric
drugs that relieve symptoms and must be taken for a lifetime as
signs of weakness?.  They are not.  Most Psychiatrists with good
backgrounds in psychopharmocology and its treatment know that a
drug should be given as long as it continues to be effective in 
relieving symptoms, especially distressing ones.  A responsible
physician will prescribe psychoactive drugs carefully, but not
withhold them when necessary.

Let's stop viewing psychiatric illnesses as signs of weakness and
regard them for what they really are: diseases of the body, 
specifically the brain, and that when they require drug treatment
they are not signs of weakness, just like insulin or an anti-
hypertensive agent is not a sign of weakness, but of intelligence.

Ignorance knows no boundaries, including the boundary between
non-physicians and physicians.


Ed Francell
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 30 Jul 1992 08:12:59 MST
From: <ICBAL@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Vitamin E rancidity (sic)

In article <1992Jul28.223511.7132@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>, jabba@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
(Jabba T. Hut) says:
>
>Recently I read in an article that a survey of
>over the counter Vitamin E showed that almost 2/3 of the
>samples were heavily oxidized. This resulted in cases
>of Elevated cholesterol etc in patients. Don't remember the
>reference off hand. Seems like it would make sense to add
>a bit of preservative to the soft-gels.

Life Extension gurus Pearson and Shaw have long recommended that vitamin E
only be taken in dry, powdered form because of the rancidity in the soft-gel
form. This made a great deal of sense to me, and I have been using the
powdered form for nearly a decade. But I do keep a few of the soft-gel capsules
around, because I find that it rapidly promotes healing when a cold sore
appears on the inside of my mouth (I rub a little on the cold sore at bedtime).

     Bruce Long
From: csc@coast.ucsd.edu (Charles Coughran)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Books about diabetes
Date: 21 Jul 1992 19:26:39 GMT
Organization: U.C. San Diego - SIO
Reply-To: csc@coast.UCSD.EDU (Charles Coughran)
NNTP-Posting-Host: coast.ucsd.edu


In article <1992Jul18.182652.21635@athena.mit.edu> armann@athena.mit.edu (Armann Ingolfsson) writes:
>A close relative was recently diagnosed with diabetes.  He asked me to
>look for books about diabetes, i.e. books that discuss what is known
>about diabetes and contain practical suggestions. 

Go to your local chapter of the American Diabetes Assn.  They have a bunch
of good books and will have information on local education programs
and support groups.  I would suggest you repeat the question of the
diabetic mailing list.  Instructions to subcribe follow:



Send a msg to:
	listserv@irlearn.bitnet
with the body containing:
	sub diabetes Your Name

Send a msg to:
	listserv@pccvm.bitnet
with the body containing:
	sub diabetic Your Name

The DIABETES list is for researchers; DIABETIC is for patient concerns.


-- 
         Practice Random Kindness And Senseless Acts of Beauty.
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Newsgroups: sci.med
From: hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath)
Subject: Re: CO poisoning and alcohol
Organization: The Cat Factory
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:01:40 GMT

In article <15804@pitt.UUCP> km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:
}In article <1992Jul22.184811.16576@ttinews.tti.com> reid@metis.tti.com (Reid Kneeland) writes:
}>... would a high percentage of blood alcohol acclerate death by
}>carbon monoxide poisoning?  ...

}... I don't think being drunk would effect death by
}carbon monoxide, but someone else here may know more about it.
}Any forensic pathology types out there?

Certainly not me.  However, I've been told that alcohol causes drunkeness
by interfering with brain cell oxygen metabolism.  If true, I'd think that
would aggravate the effects of CO poisoning.

The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe, M.A., CDP, aka: hollombe@polymath.tti.com)
Head Robot Wrangler at Citicorp                   Turn the rascals out!
3100 Ocean Park Blvd.   (310) 450-9111, x2483     No incumbents in '92!
Santa Monica, CA  90405 {rutgers|pyramid|philabs|psivax}!ttidca!hollombe
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: kfl@access.digex.com (Keith F. Lynch)
Subject: Fast food != junk food
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 04:10:11 GMT

fulk@cs.rochester.edu (Mark Fulk) writes:
> One of the correlates of high stress levels is simple shortage of
> time.  In high stress periods, ... I just don't have time to shop
> and cook. ...  A large part of the appeal of the popular fatty
> foods is that they are easy to prepare;

I eat fresh fruit and vegetables, and dry cereal right out of the box.
Cereal is cheap, delicious, and filling, and it keeps for months without
refrigeration.  I choose the brands with no salt or other additives.

Food preparation consists of opening a box or of slicing a fruit.
Cleanup consists of throwing the box away if it's empty, or of briefly
rinsing the knife and throwing away any seeds and skin.  In the
thirteen years I've lived here, I don't think I've ever once used
the oven except for drying my sneakers.

It's nutritious, tasty, filling, very low in fat, salt, and sugar,
inexpensive, and fast.

Except for getting new glasses, and two quick trips to the ER for
accidents, my medical bills have been zero for over twenty years.

Keith Lynch, kfl@access.digex.com
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: seanna@bnr.ca (Seanna Watson)
Subject: Enlarged Uterus
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:23:06 GMT

I was wondering what were the possible causes of an enlarged uterus.
My GP says that my uterus is the size of an 8-10 wk pregnancy, and
appears to be pressing on my bladder.  Both a blood test and sonogram
confirm that I am not pregnant.  The sonogram indicates that the
uterus is enlarged.  I had a fibroid diagnosed a few years ago, and
I (and GP) had assumed that this was responsible for both the enlarged
uterus, and the heavy menstrual bleeding I had been having.  But the
sonogram I had this week showed no sign of fibroids.  (I am going to
see a gyn. in about a week; meantime, I am curious about possibilities.)
-- 
Seanna Watson   Bell-Northern Research, 
(seanna@bnr.ca) Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Opinions, what opinions?  Oh *these* opinions. | It's hard to seize the
No, they're not BNR's, they're mine.           | day when you must first
I knew I'd left them somewhere.                | grapple with the morning.

Newsgroups: sci.med
From: tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Red Hot Chili Peppers...(was: Colonic irrigations)
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:04:02 CST
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO

In article <2466@tau-ceti.isc-br.com>, cecilw@access.isc-br.com (Cecil Williams) writes:
> 
>  (gordon e. banks) writes:
> 
>>Well try this one on for common-sense:  why do you think evolution/God
>>designed us so poorly that our colons need to be artificially
>>cleaned out?  

I don't know, Gordon.  I've known alot of people who were full of shit
and needed a major colon cleaning.  ;-)   You're right though, there
is absolutly no reason that this would be necessary or even advisable...
I just got into this thread so bear with me.

>>If you have worms, cleaning the colon is *not* the
>>proper treatment.  You won't get all the worms and they will
>>just multiply again.  You need a treatment of vermicide.  Very
>>few people in your social class have worms.  Maybe in Africa...
 
Cleaning the colon would tend to make the problem worse, since
the irritation of the colon would make it easier for the remaining
parasites.  Now, if you irrigated the colon with concentrated nitric
acid or sodium hypochlorite, you just might be able to get rid of
the parasites (and your colon). ;-).

> While we're talking about worms here, I would like to throw out this
> highly speculative theory of mine for comment...  Ever since my first
> trip around Asia and my first taste of hot (HOT!!!) curried chicken,
> I've had the idea that people in third world countries tend to eat
> extremely spicy hot food because the hot spices would drive parasites
> from the body (or kill them, or maybe just make them unhappy, and we all
> know how difficult it is to procreate when you're unhappy...) People
> who eat the hottest foods would therefore be the healthiest, and have
> the greatest longevity...

Eating hot (HOT!!) spicey food tends to make you more comfortable in 
hot, humid climates.  

  TED FEUERBACH   Scientific Systems Consultant  Trilogy Consulting, Inc. 
  Lake St. Louis, MO        (314) 537-6603       tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com
  Disclaimer:  The opinions expressed herein are MY OWN and obviously not
  the opinions of Trilogy, Monsanto or either of my two ex-wives.           
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: lindae@netcom.com ()
Subject: Re: Dizzy and light headed!!!!! What have I got.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 22:52:37 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <153t42INNait@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> sandman@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Smarter than the Average Blur) writes:
>
>For the last 2 months, I've been experiencing symptoms of labrynthitis,
>so says the doctor.
>
>He prescribed an anti-histamine and said it would make the symptoms
>go away. The only thing it did was make me drousy. It did not
>improve my condition, so I stopped taking it after a week.
>
>Additional notes:
>
>1) I can distinctly feel that this whole thing is on the left
>side of my head only. 
>
>2) On the left side, it feels like there is a slight pressure surrounding
>my ear.
>
>3) On the left side, there is a slight tingling sensation on my scalp
>about 2.5 inches above my ear every now and then.
>
>4) The symptoms occasionally intensify momemtarily when I stand up from
>sitting down.
>
>5) This happend to me once 3 years ago, but it felt more light headed
>than dizzy and last 6 weeks. 


If you don't get relief from your doctor's appointment tomorrow, try
calling the Vestibular Disorders Assocation in Portlant Oregon.  Their number is (503) 229-7705.  Vestibular (relating to the inner-ear) disorders are very
common but getting a diagnosis can be a major hassle...I should know, I've
had the problem for almost 7 years now!  Anyway the Vestibular Disorders Assoc.,
also known as VEDA, has a large variety of support and information.  They 
can refer you to support groups for people with inner-ear disorders, they
can send you published materials, and they can help refer you to specialists.
It looks like you're in the Santa Cruz area.  If so, you may want to call
the California Ear Institute in Palo Alto.   They are located near
Stanford Hospital.  

If you need more info., e-mail Linda at lindae@netcom.com

Hope this helps,
Linda

>
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: xxvb746@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu (Yanling Qi)
Subject: need your help about human anatomy
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 17:36:55 GMT

Dear netters,
  
  I am posting this message to ask netters recommendations about anatomical
books or references for my research project.

  I am a graduate student in Biomedical Engineering. My research project
involves in modelling the human thermal regulation system. It needs to build a 
two-dimensional human geometric model which  requires a set of images of 
cross-sections of human body. In each cross-section, the major vessels,
and boundaries of various tissues and organs should be clearly identified. 
The cross-sectional data will be used to generate finite element and/or
finite difference meshes for numerical anlysis.

 I also would like to know if there exist any databases or achives which
contain the information I needed, and also are ftpaable.

 I am very appreciated if any one in the net could help me to locate
usefull anatomical books or references. 

 Thank you very much in advance.



---yanling (xxvb746@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu)
   University of Texas at Austin
From: T.C.Dufresne@f63.n161.z1.fidonet.org (T C Dufresne)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: myopia and contact lenses
Date: 9 Jul 92 20:27:08 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:161/63 - The Greatful Med, Concord CA

*** Quoting Sandi Alexander Kwee to All ***

SAK>
SAK> Why is it that contact lenses slow down or halt the worsening of
SAK> myopic
SAK> vision? I've known many people who's eyes get worse every year
SAK> and have
SAK> to strengthen their eyeglass prescriptions, but once they get
SAK> contact
SAK> lenses, their eyes don't get worse and may actually improve.
SAK>
SAK> Thanks,
SAK> Sandi
SAK>
I think it MAY have something to do with the fact that a contact lens is actually maintaining the physical curve of the eye, while glasses just make optical corrections, and never actually make contact with the eye... Perhaps the contact lens becomes a "crutch" and the eye doesn't regress or get lazy!
TC


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Internet: T.C.Dufresne@f63.n161.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: cfaks@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Alice Sanders)
Subject: Cortisone
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 03:18:22 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

I just had a cortisone injection in my shoulder for tendonitis or a
partial tear of the supraspinitus muscle.  It was several hours ago.  I
don't feel so good.  Does cortisone injected like that make one feel ill?
I did receive a message from someone who said his friend got ill
(nauseous) from shots of cortisone.  What are the known side-effects of a
local injection of cortisone with xylocaine?
 
Thanks.

Alice
From: tcederqu@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Trevor Cederquist)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Post-Bac studies
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:50:01 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


	Can anyone tell me about post-bac studies for those who
have graduated from college but wish to return to get an education 
suitable for a career-change to medicine?


Trevor Cederquist
tcederqu@sdcc13.ucsd.edu
From: young@serum.kodak.com [Rich Young] (x37176)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: 60 Minutes-Heart Disease & The French
Date: 25 Jul 92 16:06:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: pixel.1992Jul25.160636.9251
Reply-To: young@serum.kodak.com
Organization: Clinical Products Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Originator: young@sasquatch

In article <1992Jul25.011010.2207@news.columbia.edu> stone@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Glenn Stone) writes:

>In article <1992Jul23.220715.17142@pixel.kodak.com> young@serum.kodak.com writes:
>>
>>	it gets the facts wrong, too.  Consider Mr. Safer's statement at
>>	the very beginning of the segment that the French "eat 30 percent
>>	more fat than we do."  That simply is not true.  The French eat
>>	about 35 to 37 percent of their calories as fat, very similar to
>>	people in the U.S."
>
>A reknowned journalist disagrees with a medical newsletter, neither
>citing and references.  No basis for evaluating the conflicting
>claims.

   True enough, but if you HAD to make a choice between Morley Safer and
   the Tufts University School of Nutrition for your dietary advice, I
   would think the choice would be clearly against Mr. Safer.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>|<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Rich Young                             | Phone: (716) 253-7176
Eastman Kodak Company                  | FAX: (716) 253-7254
Clinical Products Division             | Internet: young@serum.kodak.com
100 Carlson Road                       |
Rochester, New York, USA   14653-9122  | These are MY opinions, not Kodak's!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>|<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Don't get angry, get accurate information.
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: joel@fps.com (Joel Broude)
Subject: Re: Heart attack vs. indigestion; was: Re: Angiography
Organization: Cray Research Superservers Inc., San Diego CA, USA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 00:37:24 GMT

>>What are some guidelines to help a patient distinguish between 
>>cardiac pain and indigestion?  

>
>Unless you have a well-diagnosed GI condition, such as esophageal
>reflux, you should go to the ER. Period.
>
>One advantage:
>When you go to the ER with chest pain, you do not have to wait.

Unless you are a member of Kaiser in Los Angeles.  Four years
ago my 79-year-old uncle, who had suffered a stroke three years
before that, went into Kaiser Emergency complaining of chest pain.  
The ER doctor said it was indigestion, and sent him home to take some
antacid.  Two hours later, he suffered a major heart attack and was
rushed back to Kaiser, where he lingered for a few days, then died.

This occurred four years ago.  Perhaps procedures at Kaiser in L.A. 
have changed.
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Subject: Re: Thrush
Reply-To: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:19:29 GMT

I had something which seems similar several years ago.  It occurred after
taking Antibiotics for a few weeks.  My mouth and tongue developed many
ulcer like lesions which the MD attributed to the Antibiotics killing
my own natural bacteria.  I started eating yogurt with active
bacterial cultures to help get them started again.  He also gave me a
zylocaine syrup to swish around in my mouth to help with the pain.
I don't know if this is related to your son's problem but it would be
worth looking into.

Good Luck,
Maurice
From: stone@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Glenn Stone)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Red Hot Chili Peppers...(was: Colonic irrigations)
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:43:23 GMT
Reply-To: stone@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Glenn Stone)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Jul31.162518.3249@kestrel.edu> king@reasoning.com (Dick King) writes:

>Ahhh, a misspelling in a spelling flame -- and in the flamed word, no less!
>
>[If "chili" is spelled "chilli" in England, i apologize, but i doubt it.]
                                                     ^^^

If that were the case, it would be more appropriate to apologise.
                                                             ^^^



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From: yeager@sc2a.unige.ch (Mark Yeager)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: FDA still at large
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:59:33 GMT
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland

In article <92211.202315DGS4@psuvm.psu.edu>, DGS4@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> In article <1992Jul29.172942.16494@gateway.novell.com>,
> terry@thisbe.npd.Novell.COM (Terry Lambert) says:

>>commonly used.  The United States is a leader in biotechnology precisely      e
>>becaus
>>of the market-driven bent of our medical system.  Eye glasses and Insulin are
> 
> I'd like to see you offer a single piece of evidence that supports this rather
> explicit claim.

Before Lilly Humulin insulin was introduced, the Danes at Novo/Nordisk made
the best pork and beef insulin in the world, IMHO. The American companies
were forced to play catch-up.

--   -.-
Mark Yeager  ->  yeager@cgeuge52.bitnet     yeager@sc2a.unige.ch
 University of Geneva, Dept. of Biochemistry, CH-1211 Geneva 4, Switzerland
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Inquiry: Life Extension
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:00:30 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <8137.2A6F88AF@stjhmc.fidonet.org> Peggy.Noonan@p0.f66.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Peggy Noonan) writes:
>I hope you'll be able to help me solve a problem.  A relative is interested in 
>the Life Extension Foundation which offers a list of doctors knowledgeable in 
>"advanced therapies" such as using hydergine and eldepryl and vasopressin for 
>treating memory problems and depression.  Their ad offers a list of clinic 
>where such unapproved drugs would be available and offers a mail order 
>pharmacy.
>        
>Does anyone know anything at all about this group, whether it's "safe" or 
>alarming?  Any comments?  Any experience with it?
>
It is bogus and a waste of money.  None of these drugs have been
shown to extend life.  Eldepryl is extremely expensive, and
has been shown to be useful only for Parkinson's Disease.  Hydergine
has been shown to be worthless.  Vasopressin could be dangerous
in the wrong circumstances.  I'd steer clear.  If you want to take
vit C and E in reasonable doses, you can get the benefits they claim
(if there are any) at minimal expense.

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From: turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Grasshopper doesn't think so  (was: Ancient Methods of Birth Control)
Summary: More traditional crap.
Date: 31 Jul 1992 16:40:09 GMT
Followup-To: sci.med
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

-*----
In article <2306@tivoli.UUCP> dfavor@logan.tivoli.com (David Favor) writes:
> ... consider the implications of providing masses of oxygen to
> every part of the body. ...

Sounds harmful to me.  Beyond what is used for metabolism, oxygen
is harmful to tissues.  

> ... maybe some of the stories of long lived masters of these
> Internal Arts are correct... there is only one way to find out. 
> practice these arts for yourself and deterimine their usefulness.

Of all the ways one might investigate these issues, the one
recommended above is practially useless for determining the
truth of the purported theories.  One would better say that 
there is one sure way *not* to find out: "practice these arts
for yourself" and extrapolate from your own, subjective sense
of the results.

Russell