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From: SYSMAINT%BRUFBA.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (Luiz Alberto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Championship of Rio de Janeiro - BR
Date: 20 Nov 1992 12:18:58 -0600
Organization: Universidade Federal da Bahia - Brasil
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X-Unparseable-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 16:15:46 BRA

 Championship of state of Rio de Janeiro , Brazil

                     Taca Rio
                     """"""""
Round 10
--------
Nov. 18th   Madureira      0-0 Botafogo

            Volta Redonda  0-1 Itaperuna
                               Marquinhos(2)

            Goytacaz       0-2 America-RJ
                               Serginho (1)
                               Edenilson (2)

            America-TR     1-3 Vasco da Gama
            Serginho           Carlos Alberto Dias (1)
                               Bismarck (p) (1)
                               Bismarck 16(1)

Nov. 19th   Flamengo       0-0 Olaria
              **** It's very hard to Flamengo

            Fluminense     1-2 Americano
            Vagner 27(1)       Amarildo 28(2)
                               QUI? 43(2)

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          POS TEAM           P+   G   W   D   L  GF-GA    SG    P-  TP
 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
           1  VASCO DA GAMA  19  10   9   1   0  24-07    17     1  37
           2  AMERICA-TR     12  10   4   4   2  12-10     2     8  20
           3  FLAMENGO       11   8   5   1   2  14-06     8     5  27
           4  FLUMINENSE     11   9   4   3   2  13-08     5     7  25
           5  VOLTA REDONDA  10   9   4   2   3  11-10     1     8  19
           6  AMERICANO      10   9   3   4   2  09-08     1     8  17
           7  BOTAFOGO       10  10   2   6   2  11-13    -2    10  25
           8  OLARIA          9  10   3   3   4  08-08     0    11   9
           9  BANGU           9   9   2   5   2  05-04     1     9  25
          10  GOYTACAZ        7   9   2   3   4  05-09    -4    11   7
          11  AMERICA-RJ      7  10   2   3   5  08-14    -6    13  12
          12  ITAPERUNA       6   8   2   2   4  06-14    -8    10  11
          13  MADUREIRA       5  10   1   3   6  05-16   -11    15  19
          14  CAMPO GRANDE    4   9   1   2   6  07-11    -4    14   9
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From: SYSMAINT%BRUFBA.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (Luiz Alberto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Championship of Sao Paulo - BR
Date: 20 Nov 1992 11:56:24 -0600
Organization: Universidade Federal da Bahia - Brasil
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X-Unparseable-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 15:52:52 BRA

 Championship of state of Sao Paulo , Brazil
 *******************************************
             Round 4
 Group 1
 -------

(Nov. 18th)
  Place - Pacaembu     Att. - 15.133
  Santos         1-2   Sao Paulo
  Almir 36(2)          Cafu 6(1)
                       Muller 34(2)

  Place - Caninde
  Portuguesa     1-1   Ponte Preta
  Bentinho 36(1)       Jucemar (p)11(2)

 Group 2
 -------

(Nov. 18th)
  Place - Brinco de Ouro     Att. - 24.637
  Guarani        5-2   Palmeiras
  Gustavo 12(1)        Evair 11(1)
  Edilson (1)          Toninho 17(2)
  Edilson 8(2)
  Edu Lima 13(2)
  Edu Lima 46(2)

(Nov. 19th)
  Place - Parque Sao Jorge   Att. - 15.000
  Corinthians    3-2   Mogi Mirim
  Nilson 29(1)         Valber 24(1)
  Giba 36(1)           Valber (p) 17(2)
  Nelsinho 18(2)

Group 1
-------
Team            G    W   D   L    GF-GA  Points
------------------------------------------------
Sao Paulo      04   04  00  00    11-03     09 (*) Because First
Portuguesa     04   02  01  01    04-04     05
Santos         04   01  00  03    03-07     02     Group A
Ponte Preta    04   00  01  03    03-07     01

Group 2
-------
Team            G    W   D   L    GF-GA  Points
------------------------------------------------
Guarani        04   03  00  01    10-04     06
Palmeiras      04   03  00  01    05-05     06
Corinthians    04   01  01  02    06-07     03
Mogi Mirim     04   00  01  03    04-09     01
From: PKARLIOT%knox.bitnet@UICVM.UIC.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: English League - 'Expert' Predictions
Date: 18 Nov 1992 00:41:47 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

        Hmmm...So nobody said anything about Manchester United?????
                                                           Panos Karliotis
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From: waddlech@wam.umd.edu (Chris Waddle)
Subject: Re: Ipswich Town new signings
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:44:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.091708@axion.bt.co.uk> JHiggott@axion.bt.co.uk writes:
>
>Ipswich Town have signed the Yugoslav midfielder Vladimir Bozinoski and 
>the Bulgarian attacker Bentcho Guntchev from Bobby Robson's Sporting
>Lisbon for 
>200,000 quid.
>

Vlado Bozinoski (sp?) is an Aussie. I remember him from the days at
Footscray JUST, a club supported mainly by the ex-Jugoslavia immigrants
in Melbourne.

-Waddle
From: Tricky <mfd91@ecs.soton.ac.uk >
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Sheffield Derby Result
Date: 18 Nov 92 11:16:23 GMT
Originator: mfd91@drayton

This message is really more of a comment on Chris Woods than on the
derby game , I've put it here in the hope more people read it - the
last few comments i have made seemed to pass without comment .
    When we signed Woods I felt we should have spent the money on a
defender instead . He was fairly expensive at 1.2m and I was happy
with Turner and Pressman anyway . Last season he took some time to
settle down and wasn't too consistent , although he improved as the
season progressed . He played poorly in both the derby games and was
again caught in no-man's land at the corner this derby match . He has
played superbly in several of the matches this season , remember that
classic save against Middlesbro' . 
  Unfortunately I don't live in Sheffield and I study at Soton Univ.
so I rarely get to see Wednesday play . Can some Owl fans that have
seen him play please mail me or follow-up this article with some
comments on his ability. 

   Its good news that Carlton Palmer has finally been reselected .
After being one of the best players in the Euro Champs he deserved to
keep his place . He comes in due to an injury to Batty - but surely
he's a far better player than Batty anyway .
Why is it that Wright seems to be given several chances to play
well for England when so far he has played badly on every appearance
-its about time Hirst was given another chance ( knowing his luck he
will get injured the next time he gets selected for the squad ).


Mike

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From: jcostas@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (constantinos.n.tsioras)
Subject: English Premier Division results, Sat Nov 21st
Keywords: plus First Division results
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:16:52 GMT

Terrible weather conditions all over Britain today. Three matches in
Scotland were abandoned because of snow, and most of the other games
were played under heavy rain.
Norwich increase their lead at the top of the table after Arsenal 
are beaten by Leeds.

LEEDS  3  ARSENAL 0
Two goals by Rod Wallace and a third late in the game by ?????, gave
Leeds an emphatic victory over Arsenal. According to the commentators
the pitch was unplayable. Arsenal had to play most of the second half with
substitute goalkeeper Alan Miller after David Seaman got injured.

COVENTRY  2  MAN CITY  3
Quinn (2)    Sheron
             Simpson
             Curle (pen)
Att: 14,500
Big comeback for Man City after Coventry took a 2-0 lead.

CRYSTAL PALACE  1  NOTTM FOREST 1
Armstrong          Woan

MIDDLESBORO  2  WIMBLEDON  0
Hendry
Morris

NORWICH  2     SHEFFIELD UNITED  1
Beasley (o.g)  Cork
Robbins 85'
Att: 14,874

SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY  1  IPSWICH  1
Thompson (o.g.)         Kiwomya

EVERTON  0  CHELSEA  1
           Harford (I think)


TOTTENHAM  0   ASTON VILLA  0

MAN UNITED  3  OLDHAM  0
McClair (2)
Hughes 



First Divsion
-------------
Portsmouth 4  Tranmere 0
Bristol C  2  Swindon 2
Brentford  1  Grimsby 2
Barnsley   1  Birmingham 0
Derby      0  Sunderland 1
Leicester  2  Cambridge 2
Luton      1  Millwall 1
Newcastle  2  Watford 0
West Ham   5  Oxford 3
Peterboro  0  Bristol R 0
From: scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Carlton's Back!!
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:14:30 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, Wales, UK
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

Well, Jimmy Hill will be pleased anyway - yes Carlton Palmer is back to
entertain the country with his silky skills! Should add a bit of the
"unexpected" to England's midfield at least - lets face it even he
doesn't know which way his legs are going! Whatever, he's better than 
boring old Batty, who just struts around and goes nowhere. OK, so Batty 
was injured to let Carlton in the team, but we'll soon see he should never 
have been there in the first place.

Actually, Carlton's club form has been pretty crap this season, though
there are signs of him returning to his former self. Sometimes his
control has looked more like a Sunday park player's, and Bartman has
out-shone him on many occasions. But then again he scored a cracker of a
goal against Oldham - as long as he don't try and blast the ball when he
shoots it has a semblance of a chance of going towards the goal! I'm
still waiting for him to be through one-on-one in an England match - he'd 
probably hit the corner flag! Don't get me wrong, I'm a Palmer fan as
long as you don't expect him to be another Gazza, and recognise his
strengths are greater than his weaknesses, which seem all to obvious to
those who don't know what to expect.

For those that missed the rest of England's team news, the side should
be essentially the one which played against Norway except for Palmer for
Batty, and not sure who's at right back (Dixon and Parker injured - is
Jones properly fit yet?). Platt is meant to be fit, and Wright and
Shearer continue up front.

gordon
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From: raikau@u30005.rsv.svskt.se (Raimo K O Kauhanen)
Subject: Re: Cameroon in Italia '90
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:33:36 GMT
Organization: Swedish Tax Administration
Keywords: italia '90, cameroon
Followup-To: Cameroon in Italia '90

In article <92317.133143SCLARKE@ESTEC.BITNET> Sean Clarke <SCLARKE@ESTEC.BITNET> writes:
>Cameroon were put out by none other than England, in the quarter finals,
>and, as any Englishman would tell you, we absolutely shit ourselves.
>If I remember rightly, Platt scored a great goal to put England 1 up,
>and Cameroon hit back with 2 (Milla getting one, I think, though memory
>fails somewhat.). Lineker got a late penalty to take the game into extra
>time, and Lineker again scored during this period, to seal it for England.
>
>The Cameroons I know beat Columbia in the match previous to this (last 16),
>thanks mainly to the Columbian keeper trying to dribble the ball past Milla.
>
>In the qualifiers, they beat Argentina in the opening game 1-0 (Biyak I think)
>and had 2 players sent off, the second a real team effort, the first player
>tripping him the second setting him up further, and the third kicking the
>Argie into the following week - possibly the most blatant foul I have even
>seen. So bad I almost pi$$ed myself laughing.
>
>Cannot remember the other qualifying games, although they did not lose -

  I am pretty sure that Cameroon were beaten by Sovjetunion in 
  in the 2 nd qualifying round . (?)

>thus making England still the only team to beat the Cameroons in the 2
>finals Cameroon have qualified for (sorry, but we need something to be
>remembered for! :-( )
>
>Overall, they were actually let down by less than adequate international
>defending, and fairly poor discipline, although they probably played
>some of the best football in the tournament. Certainly they (and other
>African teams) will not have to wait much longer for even more success.
>The England - Cameroon game was, incidently, probablt the best game in
>the whole of Italia 90.
 
>Reagrds, Sean


-- 
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RSV, TE/B                         Tel: +46 8 764 83 61  Fax: +46 8 627 96 32
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Date: Wednesday, 18 Nov 1992 08:35:19 CET
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: X-Yugoslavia Round 13
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)

Yugoslavia

Round 13
Sutjeska    1-2 Kikinda
Becej       2-0 Buducnost
OFK Beograd 3-2 Mogren
Proleter    2-1 Zemun
Radn Nis    2-2 Rad Beograd
Napredak    2-1 Hajduk
Spartak     2-2 Partizan
Crvena z    3-0 Pristina
Radn NB     3-4 Vojvodina

Top of table:
1.Partizan   13  33- 6  24
2.Vojvodina  14  27-17  23
3.Crvena z   13  26- 7  19

Some corrections to my previous post (thanks Marko):
Borac now play in Belgrade;
Novi Beograd is a part of Belgrade, Imel is not the German name (I was led
to that belief by the frequent use of German names for East-European cities
in the magazineshere), but the company sponsoring them.

Cheers,
Karel

--
-- Karel Stokkermans, RISC-Linz, Schloss Hagenberg, Austria, Europa
 -- email: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at
"O hoe vergeefs / des doelmans hand / zich strekte naar de bal    [  21-6-88,  ]
 die 'een minuut / voor tijd de Duitse / doellijn kruiste..."     [ J. Deelder ]
From: peterm@pinhigh.Aus.Sun.COM (Peter Miles)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: In article Muu@hsi.com, mallon@hsi.com
Date: 21 Nov 1992 10:33:56 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: peterm@pinhigh.Aus.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: pinhigh.aus.sun.com

In article E0L@apollo.hp.com, moynihan_r@apollo.hp.com (Robert Moynihan) writes:
In article <1ehrtkINNqht@sunaus.Aus.Sun.COM> peterm@pinhigh.Aus.Sun.COM writes:
>
>While on this subject of rule changes, I read somewhere recently where your USSF, are proposing
>rules changes for the WC '94. This is an example of what I mean.!!
>
>I do hope Mr Havalange and Mr. Blatter and co, tell your USSF what they can do with their
>proposed rule changes - i.e. put them where the sun don't shine.!!!
>
>Anyway, I wish you well in your endeavours to raise the publicity of Soccer in the US, but
>Please, leave the rules alone.!!!!!
> 

This is unadulterated nonsense.  The USSF have made no such 
suggestions.  There are a lot of bigoted people around the world
that have their noses out of joint because the US is hosting WC
'94, so they will make up all sorts of stories to make us look bad.

Just because you "read it somewhere" doesn't make it true.  I was
shopping a few weeks ago and saw a tabloid cover photo of Bill
Clinton walking with space aliens.  Does this mean the US President
elect has been having extra-terrestrial negotiations?

No one in the US is suggesting that the rules of the game be changed.
What would be nice would be if there were changes to the -format-
of the tournament that would discourage playing for ties.  On-field
game rules are, and should be, inviolate.

===================================================================
Bob Moynihan                         Go Ipswich Town!
moynihan_r@apollo.hp.com             Never let the rocks cry out.
===================================================================
  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not for Hewlett-Packard Co.
===================================================================                                         


Dearest Bob,

It has been widely reported here in the Australian press, that the USSF have asked FIFA to 
change the rules for the '94 World Cup, to incorporate 4 quarter football.

Need I say anymore, who else other than americans would request such a thing.????

No doubt the push came from the CBS NBC etc networks to assist incorporating their
huge advertising schedules.!!!!!

Thankfully, I heard today, that FIFA have politely told the USSF, to take a hike.

In response to your claim that other countries are jealous.

I cannot speak for other people, but I am glad that you have the WC, and I am not jealous 
at all. I am just tired of Americans changing rules, because it does not suit them.

Soccer is one of the oldest and most popular games in the world, and it does not need fledgling
countries like the USA(in soccer terms), to change the rules, for change sake.

Cheers  Peter


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From: halvard@trd.sdata.no (Halvard Halvorsen)
Subject: the vikings are coming (again ?) 
Keywords: more norwegains going abroad.
Organization: Skrivervik Data A/S
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 17:42:29 GMT


well - with kaare flying over to manchester yesterday the current 
list of new players (maybe) going proffesional looks something like this :

Stig Inge Bjornebye - sold to Liverpool (national team)
Alf Inge H}land - sold to Nottingham Forest (U21 national)
Frank Strandli - sold to Leeds United (U21/national team)

Roger Nilsen - plays for 1FC Koln in Germany - rented from Viking Stavanger;
               made "Team of the Week" in german papers after is his first match !
               (there was a picture of him and Cobi Jones - with text something
                like "Cobi Jones - player in 1FC Koln" - is this correct or is
                Cobi still on trial ??) (Roger is of course on the national team)

Egil Ulfstein - has been training with Sheffield United, no contract yet (U21 int)
Kaare Ingebrigtsen - training this week with Man City (national team)
Tore Andre Dahlum - has been training with Man United. no contract offered yet.
Bjorn Otto Sundgot - has been training with Oldam. Oldham wants him - but must be
              prepared to pay more than the 150 000 GBP offered to his current
              club Molde. U21 national team.

Jostein Flo  - wanted by Coventry ??

OK 3 for sure, 1 on rental and 5 not so sure new proffesionals. 
so the future looks good for both the 'A-team' and our U21's.

(we also have the likes of Thorstvedt (Tottenham), Bratseth (Werder Bremen),
Halle (Oldham), Rekdal (Lierse - the man who scored at Wembley), Jakobsen
(Young Boys), Fjoertoft (Rapid Wien) abroad (and even some more ...)
- so despite winter soon coming 
- we just _might_ have a very fit national team next spring :-) )
 

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From: paull@plasma.co.uk (Paul Lee)
Subject: Re: SELHURST PARK
Reply-To: paull@plasma.co.uk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:19:04 GMT

I've already posted details of Selhurst Park to your E-mail address, Mike. Hope
they get there.

---


		Cheers,
			Paul Lee (Hoppy)


			Meiko Scientific Ltd.

			Email: paull@meiko.com
From: pele@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (David J. Duffield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: offsides question on goal kick
Date: 22 Nov 92 04:47:41 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


The linesman was correct.  In the laws, which aren't in front of me right now, 
it states that a player may not be offside on a goal kick.  This is obviously
true for the attacking team since they would not be playing the ball last, but
it also applies to the defending team (team taking kick).  It is one thing
I always remember from ref class cause I thought it was a strange rule.  It
can be very helpful for small fields when you don't feel like earning a goal.

On the side:  Only three times player not offside.  Goal Kick, Corner Kick, and
               Throw-in.

--david
From: CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Japan (& soccer in the US)
Date: 17 Nov 1992 20:39:12 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Marcus,

Once again, a great job at outlining the strengths and weaknesses of the
US effort in re-establishing a pro league, this time with a fascinating
comparison with Japan.

BTW, it is interesting that the International Herald Tribune publishes
such detailed soccer information, while its two "parent" newspapers, the
NY Times and Washington Post (good compared to most other US newspapers)
can't hold candle to the coverage in the "Trib".

As I may have told you via Email, this is similar to CNN which regularly
shows soccer highlights to its European feed but won't even show highlights
of the American Bundesliga star Eric Wynalda of Saarbru"cken, the number
2 goal scorer in the Bundesliga on its US sports programs.

I actually spoke with CNN here in Atlanta and they said that they made an
"executive decision" that they didn't think that American fans wanted
to see soccer on their sports programs!

Does anyone smell a conspiricy.......? <g>

Best, Chris

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From: bootsma@fys.ruu.nl (Timo Bootsma)
Subject: Hungary round 13
Organization: Physics Department, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 08:50:15 GMT

Results of round 13, november 15th:

bekescaba             -videoton           2-2
csepel                -nyiregyhaza        3-1
ferencvaros           -vac fc             0-1
kispest hfc           -veszprem           4-2
pecs msc              -mtk budapest       0-0
raba eto gyor         -diosgyor miskolc   1-0
siofok                -novep bvsc         0-0
ujpest te budapest    -vasas budapest     2-2

 1. vac fc      13 20   9. mtk budapest   13 12
 2. ferencvaros 13 20  10. pecs msc       13 12
 3. kispest hfc 13 17  11. novep bvsc     13 11
 4. vasas       13 16  12. ujpest te      13 10
 5. videoton    13 15  13. siofok         13 10
 6. diosgyor    13 14  14. raba eto gyor  13  9
 7. bekescaba   13 13  15. nyiregyhaza    13  8
 8. csepel      13 13  16. veszprem       13  8

timo


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