HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: vax@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Vax)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Data CMP modems, fcntl.h et.al.
Date: 12 Sep 92 10:38:02 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

First:
I have noticed that UNIX tends to group peripherals in bps-categories (esp
RS-232[c] periphs).  When a data-compressing modem comes along, that defines
a DCE-to-DCE speed (phone line (data stream) speed) but NOT a DTE-to-DCE speed
(that is, the speed of the computer to the modem), how can one best use the
extra "speed" gained by data compression?  Can you set all the modem "speeds"
to twice the DCE-DCE speed (e.g. 4800 instead of 2400) and then rely on
hardware flow control to slow it down, or will it barf?

Second
Will MWC make an official announcement (on the net) about fcntl.h?  As I see
it, we have three alternatives:
	o Move fcntl.h to the /usr/include/sys directory as per the dox.
	o Make a link from the sys directory into /usr/include, thus
	  effectively having 'two' copies of fcntl.h
	o Leave fcntl.h in the /usr/include directory and modify incoming
	  source to look for it there.

Third
Is there any support for the AHA152[02][a-c] yet?  Why not, its just like the
Adaptec AHA1542B but simpler!

Fourth
Will people please make an educated attempt to discern whether or not their
questions belong in comp.unix.novices or not?  I realize this is kind of a
chicken-and-egg problem, since if you know enough to know this, you probably
know your answer, but at least try.  For example, wildcard expansion and
output redirection belong there.  The peculiar (read: non-deterministic)
behavior of using a file for both input and output of a redirection is not a
novice topic, but still does not belong here.

Fifth
I have offered my time to put PERL in a distributable form for Coherent.
Someone had done part of the job, but I lost their address.  Please mail me
if you are working on this or have it done, so we can join efforts or at least
not duplicate them.
-- 
EOM
Protect our endangered bandwidth - reply by email.
VAX#N8 vax@ccwf.utexas.edu
From: bob@dalek.mwc.com (Bob Hemedinger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: beta for installable news ready
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:43:30 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

>
> If you get it to me I'll get it to raven.alaska.edu.
>

Thanks for the offer. I just mailed Jay Beavers a copy today. He should have
it no later than Wednesday.

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From: mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: COMB, TASS and GNEWS on Coherent 4.0
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:18:16 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <3218251@neptons.UUCP>, roger@neptons.UUCP (Roger Barth) writes:
> Hello fans of COMB, TASS and GNEWS.  I have uploaded to mwcbbs the
> revised code for all three to work under Cohernet 4.0.
> 
> I have included an install script for GNEWS for first time setup and
> for those of you who are running the 286 versions.  On my 386/20 GNEWS
> handles about 135k per minutes of news.
> 
> Have fun.

Could you forward this stuff to me?  I will forward them to
Raven since I have a dedicated Sun 3 on the Internet for that
kind of stuff.  If you can uuencode the tar.Z file, I'll
have them at Raven minutes after they arrive in my mbox.

Cheers,

Chris


> 
> --
> 
> ----
> Roger Barth - Cameron Park, California USA            Coherent 4.0.1
> roger%neptons@antares.intel.com                 916-677-9771 (voice)
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: newsfeed appeal for help
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 07:42:41 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

tbuck@teal.csn.org (Timothy E. Buchanan) writes:

> 2- make bininstall in /input /batch and /misc exit with "must be 
> created w/ ar -s option". How do I do this?

Edit the makefile and add the -s option to invocations of ar - it's probably
defined as a make macro somewhere near the top.

Sorry if it's confusing.

> 3- make bininstall in /expire and /relay exit with "libdbm.a : cannot 
> open". Is this lib missing from Coho, if so where can I get it, or 
> is it renamed?

Coherent doesn't include libdbm.a. Get the SDBM package from your favourite
Coherent archive site and build that.

						- k
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: MWC BBS Etc.
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:50:51 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <43@keurgraad.witchcraft.com> "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet> writes:
>Does anybody regularly call the MWC BBS?  It seems that each time I
>call, there's a different problem.  Called a few months ago, and
>everything was fine, today I couldn't connect.  Everything was
>fine until my terminal sent 'nuucp', then it aborted.  I checked my
>logs, and the message was "cannot lock terminal Trouble unlocking
>tty /dev/com2fr".  I assume this is on their end, since I don't
>have a com2.  How do I send an email message to the appropriate
>person...is it admin@mwc.com or support@mwc.com? I've previously
>sent messages via the same phone line on which I can't connect
>today.

This happens because an upload or some other event has filled up
their root partition.

>Finally, I've been reading a lot of messages about news readers in
>Coherent, and the difficulties with them in version 4.0.  I have
>yet to even attempt to use a news reader in 3.2.1, because I
>really don't have a permanent site to use for the news feeds.  Does
>MWC allow customers to use their site to receive news feeds?  If
>so, are there any charges or limitations?  If not, is a UUNET
>account the only alternative?  I've tried to find a local
>(Washington, D.C.) site that would let me establish a UUCP
>account, but have had no luck.  I could only find one news reader
>on the MWC BBS, but there were some files missing.  The admin said
>that they had no plans to re-install the files.  What else is
>available?

No, MWC doesn't give out news feeds.  Have you gone through the UUCP
maps to find sites in your area?

There are 3 news agents and 2 news readers on mwcbbs.

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Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
From: PINEAU@uqac.uquebec.ca (Louis Pineau)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: problems with floppy as a filesystem
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:40:27 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>
Organization: Universite du Quebec a Chicoutimi

>
> PINEAU@uqac.uquebec.ca (Louis Pineau) writes:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > The third time I try to mount the same floppy, the disk get garbled and
> > become unreadable.
>
> This sounds to me like you are trying to use standard disks instead of
> High Density disks.  There is a difference in the telsa strength of the
> coils between the old 360kb disk and the newer high density 5 1/4 disks.
> I think this also carries over to the 720K vs 1.44Meg disks.  This
> difference in coil strength and diffence in media will cause the same
> problem you describe.
>
> I experenced it under DOS as well before switching to HD disk for the
> 1.44/1.22 tasks at hand.
>
> Ben
> --
> Ben Bailey                 ben@bailey.uucp -- bailey!ben@uunet.uu.net
> 12210 Shady Forest Dr.     ben@bailey.tscs.com
> Riverview, Fl. 33569       -- The main thing is to keep the main
> 813-677-5021                  thing the main thing.  Mainly.
>
I don't think so. I tried to format a known to be 320k floppy as a 1.2M
and even though fdformat doesn't complain about the format, badscan does
tell me that it can't write on that floppy.

I even experienced another problem this morning with the drive. I tried
again to format and mount a 1.2M floppy. Once mounted, I copied files on
it until it complained that it was out of space. I stopped the copy process
and looked at the space used and it was only 45% full. So I dismounted the
floppy... then nothing happened. I couldn't even do a ^C to break the
process. I had to log on another virtual console to try to kill the process
but when I did "ps" to find the process, it hanged. I had to log again on a
third console to shutdown the whole system. Once back in multiuser mode (I
just did a  ^D) doing "ps" hanged again. I crash-rebooted the whole system
to get it back to normal.

I really don't know what is wrong. I am using the correct format of the
floppies and I never had that kind of problem on Coh 3.2.

thanks, Louis



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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: root@iisat.alt.ns.ca (Super user)
Subject: Test
Organization: Public Access UNIX
Distribution: hfx
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 02:53:45 GMT

Local news test....

please ignore.

Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: umunk@naxos.sni.de (Udo Munk)
Subject: Re: Need documentation for Wnews
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Info.Sys. AG, Paderborn, Germany
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 08:32:46 GMT

mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:

>Does anyone have the complete distribution for wnews?  I have gotten
>various parts of it to work, but I'd like to have the manual so I
>can properly set up the sys file.  As it stands now, all incoming
>batches are dumped into "junk".  

Yes, I've the complete distribution, and I've hacked the man pages,
so that they can be formated under Coherent. I'm working on this
distribution, so that one can "make install" under Coherent 3.x
and Coherent 4.0! If this is ready, I guess it is at the next weekend,
I'll send this distribution to MWC. Then I'll use this package
to create a binary distribution for Coherent 4.0, which can be
installed with Coherents "install" command.
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From: root@tbucks.com (Superuser)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: tin/wnews
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:40:44 GMT
Organization: tbucks.com (private bitty-box)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

When I posted my last msg about tin, rnews decided to break. My host sent
me two packets, but these did not make it to /usr/spool/news/in.coming.
When I checked /usr/lib/news/errlog I found "rnews:could not create
/usr/spool/news/in.coming/92* for the packets. And they appear to be gone.

I further found the permissions for /usr/lib/news, which I carefully
checked this morning, to be very different. What could have changed those
permissions (I certainly didn't) and _what_ is going on here?

Anyone have any ideas what can be causing this bit decay?
From: david@r-node.gts.org (Gerald Abshez)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Masterboot and other OS...
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:37:30 GMT
Organization: Public Access UNIX Information System

In article <7a927e70@p7.f512.n242.z2.fidonet.org> Rudi_Ferrari@con.fido.de (Rudi Ferrari) writes:
>Hi!
>I would like to use only Coherents Masterboot, to boot Coherent
>(of course ;-), MS DOS 5.0 and OS/2 2.0.
>
>BUT... it seems to be impossible to install OS/2 2.0 _without_ his
>own Bootmanager. :-(
>(I find it a little bit stupid, first to have the Masterboot, and
>than to have to Bootmanager, for finaly running DOS or OS/2)
>Any solution?

Well, I don't know what version of Coherent your trying to install,
but I have MS DOS 5.0, OS/2 2.0 and Coherent 3.2.1 on the same
hard disk. The first partition is 110 Megs of Dual Booted OS/2,
and the last 20 is Coherent. I don't have Bootmanager installed,
but I *know* that it is not necesary, although it is supposed to
be nice. So, in other words, you can "only" use Coherent's 
masterboot, if you want to. (Rumour has it that Bootmanager won't
run with masterboot, but I haven't ever tried it.)

I think this is the way that I did it: Repartition so that you have
the disk set up the way you want it. Install DOS 5.0. Install Coh's
masterboot, and Coherent. Install Dual Boot OS/2. Note, however, that
for this to work you *Can't* install OS/2 on a HPFS drive, although
you could use HPFS on some partitions, and you still must use dual
boot. 
-- 
Gerald
david@r-node.gts.org

Insert annoying fundamental political statement here.
From: mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Cheaper Coherent in UK and USA...
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:35:14 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <joagre.716574128@meryl>, joagre@meryl.csd.uu.se (Joakim Greben|) writes:
> My swedish distributer charges *$200*  for Coherent 4.0...
> Can anyone recommend a good (cheaper) distributer in UK or USA?
>  
> Thanks in advance...
>  
> joagre@student.docs.uu.se

Why don't you order it directly from MWC in the US or get a friend
in the US to do it for you?

Chris
From: kenji@TOM.ASTEM.OR.JP (Kenji Rikitake)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Non-blocking I/O on a named pipe does not work
Date: 11 Sep 92 06:58:16 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

On Coherent 4.0.1:
An open() with O_WRONLY|O_DELAY to a named pipe which is not opened by
any other processes returns a valid identifier instead of -1. This
behavior is not compatible with System V - I think you need to fix
the kernel. I suspect non-blocking I/O to named pipes simply do not
work properly.

Regards,
// Kenji Rikitake
// This message is sent to both Coherent newsgroup and MWC support.
From: tbell@n8hsp.ncoast.org (Terry Bell N8HSP)
Reply-To: tbell@n8hsp.ncoast.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: color defaults
Keywords: color monitor screen defaults
Date: 7 Sep 92 16:30:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: N8HSP Amateur Radio

How can I get the screen to default to white chars on blue background?

Toodles, Terry
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: tau@ee.ubc.ca (AU TRI BANG)
Subject: HD compatibility
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:48:12 GMT

I have a friend who has been experiencing some problems with her
harddrive.  Coherent 4.0.0 installs ok on the machine, but lately,
she's been getting disk failures.  Is it a hardware problem, or
a compatibility problem?  The HD is a Quantum LPS120AT.
From: kenji@tom.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Non-blocking I/O on a named pipe does not work
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:18:02 GMT
Reply-To: kenji@komaba.c.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Organization: RCAC Project, ASTEM RI, Kyoto, Japan
In-reply-to: kenji@TOM.ASTEM.OR.JP's message of 11 Sep 92 06:58:16 GMT

In article <9209110658.AA17454@nkk.tom.astem.or.jp> kenji@TOM.ASTEM.OR.JP (Kenji Rikitake) writes:
 |On Coherent 4.0.1:
 |An open() with O_WRONLY|O_DELAY to a named pipe which is not opened by
 |any other processes returns a valid identifier instead of -1. This
 |behavior is not compatible with System V - I think you need to fix
 |the kernel. I suspect non-blocking I/O to named pipes simply do not
 |work properly.

Followup: I had to use SysV-compatible(?) message queue to emulate(?)
the behavior of named pipe or FIFO. It worked OK, but you can't create
more than 16 message queue simultaneously, and there are a few other
restrictions on it.

// Kenji
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: umunk@naxos.sni.de (Udo Munk)
Subject: Re: Double signature
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Info.Sys. AG, Paderborn, Germany
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:07:51 GMT

batchelor@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Dave Batchelor, NSSDC, 301-286-2988) writes:

>Dear Udo Munk:

>I don't know if it is apparent to you, but your signature lines at message
>ends are duplicated.  Maybe something to do with your recent mail software
>changes.

Thanks Dave!
At the moment I'm posting from a system of a customer, where I don't
had installed the mail and news SW. I've fixed this yet, sorry about
reducing the bandwidth.
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From: DFP10@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU ("Donald F. Parsons MD")
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: WordPerfect for COH 4.0
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:19:31 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

On the WPCS section of Compuserve, Ron Whittaker, UNIXPI, WPC Support
says:
At this time, there are no plans to compile WordPerfect on the
Coherent 4.0 operating system. The program may run successfully if
Coherent is compatible with one of the following operating systems:
HPUX 9000 8.07, SCO UNIX 3.2, SCO Wenix 2.3.4, or AIX 3.2
   [Is it compatible? Don]

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From: bob@dalek.mwc.com (Bob Hemedinger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: beta for installable news ready
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:32:34 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

I will mail you a diskette with the uuencoded installable news package
on it today.
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From: tbell@n8hsp.ncoast.org (Terry Bell N8HSP)
Reply-To: tbell@n8hsp.ncoast.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Error: cannot open sys/fcntl.h ???
Date: 8 Sep 92 3:3:47 GMT
Organization: N8HSP Amateur Radio

mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu ( @ SPC Community Access System) once wrote....
>Wnews is getting closer to working, however, I just started to
>get this error:
>
>cannot open sys/fcntl.h
>
>This happens when inews.c is being compiled.  Why does this happen?
>I thought sys/fcntl.h is a standard header file?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Chris
>"The accidental C programmer" :)

I think you'll find 'fcntl.h' in the "/usr/include" directory.
Edit your file to: </usr/include/fcntl.h> and see if that helps.

toodles, terry
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From: styer@ms.uky.edu (Eugene F. Styer)
Subject: Pascal and Coherent
Keywords: Pascal, teaching
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:22:12 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

I am teaching at an university where we are using a unix system for teaching
students pascal.  Anyway, we teach some extension classes in area towns that
currently have PC's an no convient access to our department system.  The
students will be coming here for any upper level classes they might want, and
so we're not sure we want them to use Turbo Pascal (or equivalent) and then
have to learn an entirely new system when they get here.  So my request is:
Can a Pascal compiilier be purchased for Coherent, and what type of price
would we be talking?
-- 
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"There was a boy named Eustace Clarence Scrubb, and he almost deserved it."
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: tau@ee.ubc.ca (AU TRI BANG)
Subject: Re: Deleting Masterboot without reinstalling?
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:05:44 GMT

In article <umunk.715979734@naxos> umunk@naxos.sni.de (Udo Munk) writes:
>thigpen@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Keith Thigpen) writes:
>
>>I'm looking at removing Coh from my PC to reinstall on a deicated machine.
>>Is there an easy way to delete Masterboot from my hard drive without
>>going thru the reinstall procedure?
>
>Install MS-DOS 5.0, it overwrites MWCs masterboot with it's own.
>--

You can use the command "fdisk /mbr" to replace the Master Boot Record.
The undocumented option is available only on the fdisk that came with
dos5.0
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: EDITORS...
Date: 13 Sep 92 22:54:04 GMT
Organization: U. Munk's private BBS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

roger@neptons.UUCP (Roger Barth) writes:
: DTE exists for Coherent!!  Where???

Since 1991 on my system :-)
And hopfully on MWCBBS and raven also in the next week.
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