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From: conibear@sol.carleton.ca (Dave Conibear)
Subject: Re: Hey..SET..Guess What
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:09:19 GMT

In <1992Apr6.224500.12033@pegasus.com> alto@pegasus.com (Andrea Ostensoe) writes:


>I know you're out there..Set..sorry I've been so happy the past
>few months..but it should be gratifying to know..that *it* caught
>up with me again..the sun shines..birds sing..flowers bloom..

>And..I feel like my heart's being eaten out slowly by my old
>demon..

>My eyes blurr with tears..I can't even find solace in my "art'
>..right..art..(cynical laugh)..tourist crap...I feel like burning
>everything I've painted..

[...]

>sigh

>-- 
>**************************************************************************
>"I don't ask for much..just your heart on a silver platter;-)"
>						-Kali
>**************************************************************************

Yo, Great Fanged One!  (Oops, sorry, I mean, "Pardon this interruption
by this thy humble servant, oh Mistress of Death and Hemoglobin and
Alle Things Nastie and Stuff...")

I feel a bit like I'm butting in, since your original message was to
Set, but then again it WAS on the Internet, so here goes...

Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease don't go on an art-burning binge just
because of *it*!  If your inner demons are anything like mine, can't
you embrace them as a (darker?  flawed?) part of yourself, and go
create a different flavour of art?

Only reason I haven't gone shopping at the local neighbourhood
Tricyclic Antidepressants 'R' Us is that the music I write during the
dark times sounds a lot better than the happy, smiling music from days
when things are going well.  Could it work the same with you?

(And if that doesn't change your divine mind, Oh Goddess, could I
store Your art at my place instead of having You chuck it in a local
volcano?  That way, if ever You want it back, it'll be available.)

Reverently yours,

Dave

_________________________________________________________________________
DISCLAIMER:  My employers don't like me worshipping during working hours.
From: jon@cyclone.MITRE.org (J. E. Shum)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Isn't it obvious?
Keywords: suicide
Date: 1 Apr 92 23:48:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: linus.1992Apr1.234842.4783
Organization: The MITRE Corp. McLean Va.
Originator: jon@cyclone


In article <1992Apr1.073537.10183@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, daeron@cae.wisc.edu (Meyer Daeron) writes:
> Ah yes... suicide...
> 
> Isn't it merely a permanent solution to a temporary problem?
> Then again, if your whole life is a problem, perhaps it should be eliminated.
> Perhaps suicide should be made mandatory as punishment for those people who
> cause problems in the lives of others (i.e. mass murderers, dictators, etc.).
> This will require more contemplation, I think...
> 
> -Daeron

In medeavel Japan suicide was often considered preferable to 
living in dishonor.  Of course, society decided what was 
dishonorable...

Also a murderer, rapist, whatever was not given the chance to 
commit suicide.  That was too honorable a way for one of them to 
die.  Instead they were tortured or beaten to death and after the 
first Jesuit missionaries arrived to give the Japanese people the 
idea, the miscreants were crucified in the classic manner.
-- 
<jon@mitre.org>


I think, therefore I am...     DANGEROUS!
From: alto@pegasus.com (Andrea Ostensoe)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Attempted suicide
Keywords: laff
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:03:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: pegasus.1992Apr9.020335.7459
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu

In article <ku38mjINN439@news.bbn.com> gsmith@bbn.com (Graeme Smith) writes:
>
>taken without permission from a neighbouring news group...this
>chap must have been desperate for conversation..
>
>A video of this would definitely win "America's Funniest..."
>
>From 4/6/92 Boston Herald:
>
>Kenmore NY - A man who leapt from a fourth-story windo and survived by
>landing on a car, rode an elevator back up and repeated his suicide
>attempt - jumping from the same window and landing on the same car.
>
>The 30-year-old survived both 40-foot leaps, and was in fair condition
>yesterday at a hostpital in Buffalo, police said.
>
>In his first attempt Saturday morning, the man "had to take a running
>leap because those windows don't open," Palombo said.
>
>He dove through a double-paned window, landing on the car, buckling
>the roof and doors and smashing its rear windows, Police Capt. Emil
>Palombo said.
>
>Although dazed and bleeding from facial cuts, the man got up and
>walked to the building's elevator, a witness told police. 
>
>"He was cut up, there was a trail of blood going into the hall, up the
>elevator and into the room," Palombo said.
>
>Kenmore Police Lt. Ronald Sardina arrived at the six-story building in
>time to see the man make his second jump onto the crumpled car.

Well..I guess one should give him an E for effort and an S for stupidity.;->

-- 
**************************************************************************
"I don't ask for much..just your heart on a silver platter;-)"
						-Kali
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From: razer@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu (The Artful Dodger)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: group
Date: 12 Apr 92 15:07:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: tiamat.12APR92100714
Reply-To: razer@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Big Bright Green Pleasure Machines, Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4

In article <willimsa.703032267@unix1.tcd.ie>, willimsa@unix1.tcd.ie (Gavin Williams) writes...
>Gee, don't you just hate having a group like this, all the contributors 
>keep dying off.  How do youever get a good thread running?

	Well, inevitably someone like yourself comes along and
makes an asinine statement like that, and we jump on him, he
gets depressed, commits suicide, and we sit back and wait for the
next no-clue jerk to come along.

The Artful Dodger P65331727@CCIT.Arizona.Edu|Razer@Hacks.Arizona.EDU
"Can you imagine us years from today, sharing a park bench quietly?
  How terribly strange to be seventy!"
		-Paul Simon & Art Garfunkle "Old Friends" _Bookends_
From: alto@pegasus.com (Andrea Ostensoe)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Why Bother Pt 2
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:30:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: pegasus.1992Apr6.183001.9000
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu

>In <1992Apr2.174546.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au> c9109149@cc.newcastle.edu.au writes:
>
>>3. (This is the best bit) You can't experience everything joyous before you 
>>	die so you may as well kill yourself! *;-) 
>
>No....but I'll get full marks for effort!! :) :) 
>
>ollie



	Ha!..Me Too!;->>>

-- 
**************************************************************************
"I don't ask for much..just your heart on a silver platter;-)"
						-Kali
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From: alto@pegasus.com (Andrea Ostensoe)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: See you all later...
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:32:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: pegasus.1992Apr6.183242.9166
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu

In article <1992Apr3.164903.1@titan.kingston.ac.uk> gl_a252@titan.kingston.ac.uk writes:
>
>I just thought I'd post a note here saying that I'm going away for a bit...
>I wasn't on here long, and only posted a few things, but I feel lower than the
>lowest low I've ever had before...
>
>+--------------------------+---------------------------------------------------+
>|           NEAL           |    Yesterday seems as though it never existed,    |
>| GL_A252@TITAN.KING.AC.UK | Death greets me warm, now I will just say goodbye |
>+--------------------------+---------------------------------------------------+

Hope you aren't gone yet...poor thing..it is a horrible feeling..(not joking)
I had to go away last year for a few months..it was awful..my last day and
hours online were terrible..one of my email pals stayed with me by phone and
on email to the end..(sweet sweet Knight!:-)..it helped..and then I did have
a rather poetic email suicide...

Hurry back if and when you can..

fanged *kiss*

-- 
**************************************************************************
"I don't ask for much..just your heart on a silver platter;-)"
						-Kali
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From: jdl3020@rigel.tamu.edu (LEROY, JAMES DAVID)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: RE: Professional help... good?... bad?
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:33:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr7.162324.29760@ryn.mro4.dec.com>, bloom@tarkin.enet.dec.com (Euthanasia) writes...
[text deleted]
>You will  not  have  a  feeling  of suffocation.  In fact, you should simply
>become  very  drowsy  and lose consciousness in about 5 minutes.  The reason
>for  this  is  that  the  suffocation  feeling is caused, not by the lack of
>oxygen,  but by the build-up of carbon dioxide.  Since you are now breathing
>and  exhaling  only  pure helium no carbon dioxide will build up.  Thus, you
>should not have the usual feeling of suffocation.
> 
>Of course, should you change your mind before you lose consciousness you can
>always save yourself by simply removing the trash bag.

What about any possible brain damage, within the first 5 minutes and afterwords 
too?

BTW does anyone know why when I try to send out these articles and I only type 
a line or two that it tells me 'recection because more text than new text.' 
That causes me to have to delete the stuff at the top when I don't want to.

                         \/            -james
                       (^^)   peace
From: alto@pegasus.com (Andrea Ostensoe)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Why suicide
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:57:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: pegasus.1992Apr13.195723.23472
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu

>|
>|Snowwhite is going to do something awful with that piano wire..bad
>|Dutchman..disneyland..indeed..!..Shall I get out the chocolate
>|doughnuts again..;->>>>
>
>Aaaargh! No! Not the chocolate doughnuts again! Take me to the garrote
>and use Pinokkio's nose for the wedge and strangle me, but not the chocolate
>doughnuts again!
>
>Jos aka jos@and.nl

(evil evil laught)..yes..the chocolate doughnuts...unless you recant ..you
Heretic!..and don't try the indonesian cooking..my demons are prepared..
Recant!
.

-- 
**************************************************************************
"I don't ask for much..just your heart on a silver platter;-)"
						-Kali
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Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday,connect.audit
From: ahawks@isis.cs.du.edu (andy)
Subject: Re: profesional help...good?...bad?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 17:23:38 GMT

In article <1992Apr06.183730.26895@ibmpcug.co.uk> george@ibmpcug.co.uk (Michael
Veltman) writes: 

>Depressed people often are unable to sleep, sleep poorly, and
>typically wake early in the morning, feeling worse than when
>they went to bed, and often just lie in bed for hours until
>the sun comes up or they have to go to work.

What?????  From what I know, HYPERsomnia (sleeping a lot) is more common than
lack-of-sleep among depressed people.  Nice example:  I went to bed at 10pm
last night, just got up, and it's 11am.  Oops - I missed my classes again..oh
well....Afer I got off the net I think I'll go sleep some more...

>-- 
>Automatic Disclaimer:
>The views expressed above are those of the author alone and may not
>represent the views of the IBM PC User Group.
>Michael Veltman         George@ibmpcug.co.uk 

--


ahawks@isis.cs.du.edu						andy
From: ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie (Lucifuge)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: I am still hanging on...
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:05:56 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

Hahahaha! Great alternative to the Dorothy Parker one that gets spouted
as often as the 'permanent solution to temporary problem' phrase.

Take a bow (sez he fingering the sword :) :) )

Ollie...
From: alto@pegasus.com (Andrea Ostensoe)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Why suicide
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:06:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: pegasus.1992Apr9.020641.7650
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu

>|depressed..well..unless it gets very very bad..and I gaze longingly at
>|my "hoard";->>...I agree..I want to either go out in a blaze of glory..
>|very dramatic..or..pleasantly..in a beautiful place..complete with
>|waterfall..lagoon..flowers..ummm..sounds like Hawaii;-)
>
>Hrmpff ... sound more like Disneyland to me. Please Mickey, pass me
>the razorblades, if you don't mind ... and don't let Goofy dare to
>touch my pills! Hey! what's Snowwhite doin' with that piano wire?
>
>Jos aka jos@and.nl

Ahh piano wire..the good old days..anyone remember that particularly
horrible method Mike Mars thought up ..?  It was great!

Snowwhite is going to do something awful with that piano wire..bad
Dutchman..disneyland..indeed..!..Shall I get out the chocolate
doughnuts again..;->>>>

-- 
**************************************************************************
"I don't ask for much..just your heart on a silver platter;-)"
						-Kali
**************************************************************************
From: george@ibmpcug.co.uk (Michael Veltman)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday,connect.audit
Subject: Re: profesional help...good?...bad?
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:37:30 GMT
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.

This is NOT true

Depressed people often are unable to sleep, sleep poorly, and
typically wake early in the morning, feeling worse than when
they went to bed, and often just lie in bed for hours until
the sun comes up or they have to go to work.

This sort of depression can be improved on.  Anti depressants
do work for this sort of depression.  Therapy may work, but
if you are really depressed, you aren't going to talk to 
anyone, anyway.

Michael

-- 
Automatic Disclaimer:
The views expressed above are those of the author alone and may not
represent the views of the IBM PC User Group.
-- 
The above opinion is not that of the IBMPCUG.
In fact, it may not be my opinion, either.

Michael Veltman         George@ibmpcug.co.uk
From: ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie (Lucifuge)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Professional help...good?...bad?
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:57:53 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <92101.115127U45301@uicvm.uic.edu> U45301@uicvm.uic.edu (Mary Jacobs) writes:

>I would question this method for reasons of environmental pollution.
>Just think of all the nonbiodegradable plastic products that will be added to
>the environment if persons so inclined adopt this method en masse--not to
>mention the loss of human beings to pick up the trash after themselves.

>I suggest the creation of a biodegradable "body bag" in which the person
>might wrap her/himself in toto.  This would make the ensuing "cleanup"
>much easier for the person drawing this odious duty and save our
>environment as well.  I have a name for the company too:  The Green Reaper.
>(I don't expect that casket-makers would like my
>concept however.)

Hooo my God!! A sense of humour...she has a sense of humour...ackk!! My
heart can't take....help!!! helpgrengruhngdf....*
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                                                    i
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                                                      e
                                                       !
                                                        *

lots o' smiles!

ollie/lucie-foogh 

'a wise man's son and wednesdays child/in each other found a friend'
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Saturday, 11 Apr 1992 01:46:56 CDT
From: Mary Jacobs <U45301@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: bags o' stuff
 <1992Apr11.023209.15552@wam.umd.edu>

In article <1992Apr11.023209.15552@wam.umd.edu>, spinoza@next03wor.wam.umd.edu
(Prince Lev of the Domovoi) says:
>
>In article <92101.115127U45301@uicvm.uic.edu> Mary Jacobs
><U45301@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>> In article <1992Apr9.215137.1618@ryn.mro4.dec.com>,
>bloom@tarkin.enet.dec.com
>stacks o' stuff deleted.........
>
>> I would question this method for reasons of environmental pollution.
>> Just think of all the nonbiodegradable plastic products that will be
>added to
>> the environment if persons so inclined adopt this method en masse--not
>to
>> mention the loss of human beings to pick up the trash after themselves.
>>
>> I suggest the creation of a biodegradable "body bag" in which the person
>> might wrap her/himself in toto.  This would make the ensuing "cleanup"
>> much easier for the person drawing this odious duty and save our
>> environment as well.  I have a name for the company too:  The Green
>Reaper.
>> (I don`t expect that casket-makers would like my
>> concept however.)
>>
>> Perhaps there is an alternative to becoming human trash--self-wrapped
>> for disposal.  I hope so. . . . but I do agree that ultimately it is
>> the choice of each what we will be and how, and when we choose to
>"be--NOT!"
>>
>Sounds a bit like that song from Dr. Demento, "Send Me Off To Glory in a
>Glad Bag";-)

No kidding?  Ah, the good old Doctor Demento.  I haven`t heard his show
in years.  Perhaps we can get him to do a guest spot on a.s.h. . . .
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| Mary Jacobs            | This is MY view;  |"There is another alter-  |
| U45301@UICVM           |  not the view of  |native than to obtain the |
| U45301@uicvm.cc.uic.edu|     the " U "     |superfluities."--Thoreau  |
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From: willimsa@unix1.tcd.ie (Gavin Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: group
Date: 11 Apr 92 22:44:27 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

Gee, don't you just hate having a group like this, all the contributors 
keep dying off.  How do youever get a good thread running?

--
         ______________________________________________________________
	|  A.G. Williams          |        Plus qu'il n'en faut.       |    
	|  willimsa@unix1.tcd.ie  |                                    |
	|_________________________|____________________________________|
From: jos@and.nl (Jos Horsmeier)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Why suicide
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:52:02 GMT
Organization: AND Software BV Rotterdam

In article <1992Apr9.020641.7650@pegasus.com> alto@pegasus.com (Andrea Ostensoe) writes:
|>|depressed..well..unless it gets very very bad..and I gaze longingly at
|>|my "hoard";->>...I agree..I want to either go out in a blaze of glory..
|>|very dramatic..or..pleasantly..in a beautiful place..complete with
|>|waterfall..lagoon..flowers..ummm..sounds like Hawaii;-)
|>
|>Hrmpff ... sound more like Disneyland to me. Please Mickey, pass me
|>the razorblades, if you don't mind ... and don't let Goofy dare to
|>touch my pills! Hey! what's Snowwhite doin' with that piano wire?
|>
|>Jos aka jos@and.nl
|
|Ahh piano wire..the good old days..anyone remember that particularly
|horrible method Mike Mars thought up ..?  It was great!
|
|Snowwhite is going to do something awful with that piano wire..bad
|Dutchman..disneyland..indeed..!..Shall I get out the chocolate
|doughnuts again..;->>>>

Aaaargh! No! Not the chocolate doughnuts again! Take me to the garrote
and use Pinokkio's nose for the wedge and strangle me, but not the chocolate
doughnuts again!

Jos aka jos@and.nl
From: alto@pegasus.com (Andrea Ostensoe)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: I TRYED IT
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:10:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: pegasus.1992Apr6.181008.8637
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu

In article <129@wierius.UUCP> firewind@wierius.UUCP (Tom Parker) writes:
>In article <1992Mar23.225506.18430@pegasus.com> alto@pegasus.com (Andrea Ostensoe) writes:
>>When you crawl out of the abyss you use whatever you can hold onto..anger,
>>hate..cruelty..revenge..sick humor;-)?
>>
>
>Hmmm, I pondered suicide at one time but figured that I was really only turning
>my rage at the proto-yuppie-scum that were making me miserable for their own
>shallow amusement, upon myself.
>
>So, I figured on putting my rage to good use by turning it on the evil little
>yuppies.  There is nothing like the look on a bully's face when they have
>suddenly (and rather violently) discovered that they are no longer dealing
>carry for the rest of their life...


	Sounds like you have encountered some "really" sick people..
>
>And attitude once kept one who had overpowered me from attacking me.  I
>simply told him that if he did anything short of killing me, I'd eventually
>get better and try again...  I'll never forget how the color drained from his
>face, or how he gingerly helped me up while assuring me that he wasn't
>going to harm me...
>
>This person never really bothered me again, can anybody tell me why? :-)
>
>"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not
> become a monster.  And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also
> looks into you." -- Nietzsche
>firewind@wierius.UUCP  or  ..!asuvax!telesys!wierius!firewind

Good for you!...It is a good feeling to face down a bully..I had to a couple
of times and I'm a tiny..rather fragile thing..(my human that is)..and it
was scary as hell..but it was great to "best" the bastards...

I like your term...evil little yuppies (i think that was it)...I would
love to slice up a few;->>>

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"I don't ask for much..just your heart on a silver platter;-)"
						-Kali
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