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From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Need info for Amtrak travel
Date: 28 Jul 92 06:14:20 GMT
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton

charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) wrote: 
->In article <92209.133123LANDERSO@NDSUVM1.BITNET> LANDERSO@NDSUVM1.BITNET writes:
->>Howdy folks.  I would appeciate any info, stories (good or bad), and ideas of
->>what to expect on my upcoming vacation.  I will be traveling on Amtrak to
->>Little Rock, Omaha, and Indianapolis.  A few questions in paticular:
->>
->>1. How easy is it to sleep with the rail noise and frequent stops without being
->>   in a sleeper car?
->
->I can't do it.  Your mileage may vary.  On many an overnight trip, the
->lounge car floor is littered with the bodies of people who can't sleep
->sitting up.  The fact that they'd rather stretch out on a dirty floor
->to get some rest than spend a sleepless night in a coach seat might
->give you a clue.

get a sleeper.  not one of those "sleeperettes," either; they're
horribly uncomfortable (they fold and have a seam in the middle which
pokes you in the ribs all night long) and they're too short (and i'm
only 176cm tall...)

->>2. What are meal prices like?  How good is the food?
->
->Meal prices are reasonable.  The food ranges from uninspired to really
->quite good at times.

ditto.  food is better on longer runs (out of necessity, i think).
bring your own noshes; you'll be happier (you can eat when you want,
even when the chuck wagon is closed) ...

->Shucks, there are probably lots of people in rec.food.cooking who've gone
->by train too; knock yourself out.

ObAir: Amtrak usedta have a deal with United Airlines where you could
fly one way and rail back ... sounds like fun to me!

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
From: klee@wsl.dec.com (Ken Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Help with Yosemite plan
Date: 22 Jul 92 00:23:28 GMT
Reply-To: klee@wsl.dec.com
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory

|> I shall be at Yosemite for three days during the next week. For people
|> who have been there, what are the must do's and see's that can be squeezed in
|> during that time. 

Yosemite is a huge park with tons of things to do.  Your "must do" list
will depend heavily on your interests.  Fit hikers will want to hike
the trail up to the summit of Half Dome, argueably the most famous hike
in the United States.  Even if you aren't that fit, the lower (and
flatter) few miles of the trail are extremely scenic.

Less energetic people usually wander around Yosemite Valley floor,
admiring the cliffs and rock climbers.  Perhaps they'll drive up to Glacier
Point, or out to one of the giant sequoia groves.  There are also
ranger programs in the campgrounds and lodges at night.  Sorry, the
firefall is long gone.

Really energetic people will want to climb one of the big walls, though
if you're in this category, you probably wouldn't be asking.

-- 
Ken Lee
DEC Western Software Laboratory, Palo Alto, Calif.
Internet: klee@wsl.dec.com
uucp: uunet!decwrl!klee
From: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: UK+Ireland
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:08:24 GMT
Reply-To: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

--
In article <1992Jul21.082013.1369@klaava.Helsinki.FI>, ilonen@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Kai Ilonen) writes:

|>Hi!
|>
|>I just booked tickets to London, and after four weeks make it back here from
|>Dublin. So, what to see and do (and NOT to see nor do) in London, UK and
|>Ireland. 
|>

I'm sure you'll plenty to do in a couple of hours in the UK before spending
the rest of the 4 weeks in Ireland.  :-)  If you really must spend more
time in the UK spend it in Northern Ireland.  OK I know I'm biased.

|>Also I'm interested if you had trouble using VISA (and I mean while
|>there, not afterwards :-) or travelers checks, or getting a room when 
|>travelling with girlfriend.

No trouble using VISA for most things - petrol, restaurants.  Most places
will take travellers cheques but it's better to go to the bank (open
10am - 3pm).  No problem getting a room with your girlfriend - even in
Holy Catholic Ireland :-).  The days of signing in as Mr & Mrs Smith are
long gone.

Where to go in Ireland depends on what you want to see.  The west coast
is really wild and rugged and very scenic.  The Ring of Kerry, Dingle,
Galway and Donegal are all worth a visit.  If you have time go to the
Aran islands.  

There's a lot to ee in Northern Ireland particularly the Antrim coast and
the Mourne district in Down.  They get far fewer tourists due to terrorism
but it's not as bad as seen on TV.  Twice as many people are killed in
traffic accidents every year. 

I think Dublin is just another big city but then I'm not from there.  It
does have good Guinness though which is very important.

Enjoy your holiday 

|-------------------------------------------------------------------------- |

          U.S.A. here we come

          God thinks he's Jackie Charlton

       Gary Spain, DEC, Galway, Ireland   - spain@galvia.enet.dec.com

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From: lcheap@milton.u.washington.edu (Laurel Cheap)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Gettysburg, PA
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:39:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul23.203955.2032
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

My husband (the history teacher) and I will be in DC for a week and
plan a day trip to Gettysburg to visit the Civil War sites there.
Any suggestions for routes from DC?  Are there any special things to
do/see in Gettysburg?  Thanks for any info you have to offer.

Laurel
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From: horn@oliver.shsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Unsub
Date: 23 Jul 1992 17:02:30 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

please unsubscribe me from TRAVEL-ADVISORIES
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From: laura@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Laura M. Edwards)
Subject: Re: Hotels London/Amsterdam
Organization: Vanderbilt University Space Electronics Research Group
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:53:49 GMT

In article <18438@drutx.ATT.COM> max@drutx!att.com writes:
-I would like some recommendations on hotels in London and
-Amsterdam.  Requirements would be:
-
-   *  reasonably priced: $60-$100.
-   *  Centrally located
-   *  private room with private bath
-   *  clean and comfortable
-
-Thanks for your help
-
-Max Padro
-   

I would like to second this request.  We will be in London Sept 6
through Sept 9, and would like a reasonably cheap hotel/bed and breakfast
somewhere towards the East End, near a tube.

Thank You!  

Laura 
laura@vuse.vanderbilt.edu
From: neil@flipper.csd.harris.com (Neil Berman)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: brewery tours in U.K.
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:03:16 GMT
Reply-To: neil@flipper.csd.harris.com (Neil Berman)
Distribution: all
Organization: Harris Computer Systems Division, Fort Lauderdale, FL


 Does anyone have any information regarding brewery tours in 
 the U.K. I am particularly interested in information on 
 touring the Samuel Smith brewery in Tadcaster N.Yorks .
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From: jxs18@po.CWRU.Edu (Jerry Sy)
Subject: Re: Gettysburg, PA
Reply-To: jxs18@po.CWRU.Edu (Jerry Sy)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 12:33:49 GMT


In a previous article, lcheap@milton.u.washington.edu (Laurel Cheap) says:

>My husband (the history teacher) and I will be in DC for a week and
>plan a day trip to Gettysburg to visit the Civil War sites there.
>Any suggestions for routes from DC?  Are there any special things to
>do/see in Gettysburg?  Thanks for any info you have to offer.
>
>Laurel
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Laurel Cheap           University of Washington   lcheap@u.washington.edu
>Information Systems    Seattle, Washington  USA   a.k.a. Brendan's mommy
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>

as for gettysburg, just go to the visitor center first, watch the lighted
map show (I think that's what they call it) and then just follow the driving
tour signs. the museum is also right in the visitor center.  just outside
the visitor center is the cementery where Licoln delivered his famous
Gettysburg address.  everthing is centered around the visitor center.

 as a side trip, you may want to visit Eisenhower's house
nearby, you have to buy bus tickets for this (no private cars allowed
inside).  we did all of this in pretty much half a day. that's about it.

jerry
From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Travel guides to India, etc.
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:17:34 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Not too long ago I posted a couple of pieces on travel in India, and
I recommended getting Insight guides or Insider guides, I couldn't
remember which.

Well, I was way off:  It's the Lonely Planet Travel Guide series.
Their book on India is worth its weight in gold if you're traveling
on a low budget.


-- 
===============================================================================
Lauren Crawford  //  crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu
"What a waste it is to lose one's mind, or not to have a mind is being very
wasteful.  How true that is."--J. Danforth Quayle to United Negro College Fund 
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: TKOZMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Ontario
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:27:07 GMT

I'd like suggestions on things to do and, especially, places to stay in the
area of The Pinery, on the south shore of Lake Huron in Ontario, Canada.
I'm not going to be camping so I'd like to know about nice but reasonably
affordable accomodations.
From: psima01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (M. Maisack)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: finding village in Germany
Date: 21 Jul 92 07:21:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: convex.psima01.711703265
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG

In <2150@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com> luzenko@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com (Bill Luzenko) writes:

>Can someone help me?

>        I am Bill  with Concurrent in  N.J.. I am
>planning  a holiday To Munich in September. As part of my visit I
>want to visit the the town of ROTHFEST near BRESLAU where my mother was  born.
>I need  someone to  help me locate this town in Germany.
>does someone have some information............

>				Thanks in advance

these days, Breslau (Wroclaw) is part of Poland, and Rothfest will also
have a Polish name.

Michael
From: LOLPOET@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu (Loss Glazier)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: (none)
Date: 31 Jul 1992 15:16:13 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

unsubscribe travel-advisories loss glazier
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From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Travel Tips
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 06:32:14 GMT

esr@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Edwin S. Russell) wrote: 
->Almost any flight in or out of Chicago can come close.

"close" ... give or take an hour or two.

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# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: SAN FRANCISCO cheap acommodation
Keywords: Hostels, San Francisco
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:22:00 GMT

elwood@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu (Elisha Polomski) wrote: 
->You need to be an American or International Youth Hostel member to
->stay at a YHA hostel. There is an additional charge if you are not,

these statements are contradictory; do you need to be a member, or
will they admit non-members?

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: SV@smena.russia.msk.su (S.V.Vasiliev)
Subject: Welcome to Moscow (save money)
Reply-To: SV@smena.russia.msk.su
Organization: unknown
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 92 16:55:23 +0300

Hello, netters,

If you are going to visit Moscow and to accommodate and spend your time
quaranteed cheap and interesting - our information is for you.

The hotel 'Russia' is one the central hotels in Moscow. We propose you the
2-rooms appartment at the 6 floor. Windows at Red Square and Kremlin.
It is our constant appartment but during summer it will be empty and you can
use it. That's why it will cost $70 cash only instead of $150 per day common
price (All this - till September).


Those who want to save money most of all, we offer the summer discount condi-
tions:

A. Home-stay with russian family or single flat ($20-40 per day) with all meals
and tourist programme, guide-interpretor (or without it - upon your choice).

        The cheapest variant (a room in a flat, breakfast only, no programme,
no guide at all) - $12 per day.

B. Cheap ($25-45 per day) but decent hotel with tourist programme and guide.

C. Any types of tourist programmes: sightseeings, visiting of Kremlin,
cafedrals, monastries, White House of Russia, places of interest, aero-cosmic
points, museums, meetings on professional or political interests, etc.

D. Studying language and handicrafts ($30-50 per day). Visiting the world
famous centers of Russian folk-painting handicrafts: Chochloma, Cholyi,
Gorodets, etc.

Visa application as well.

Don't hesitate to contact me for further information.

SV@smena.russia.msk.su
fax 095-205-4403 or 205-4457

Regards

Sergey V.Vassiliev - SMENA Foundation president
From: footbag@neocad.com (Dave Leberknight)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: HELP! Best book on Belize & Guatemala
Date: 30 Jul 92 02:28:57 GMT
Organization: NeoCAD, Inc.

I spent about a month and a half each in Belize and Guatemala.
Both are great places for travel.  I don't know about books,
but I can offer a few recommendations:
Guatemala: go to Tikal.  You can get there in one day from
sleazy Belize City, so just do it.  Travel light because
you'll be on a very crowded Guatemalan bus.  This place is
magical.  Sit on top of Maya pyramids overlooking the jungle
canopy full of monkeys and birds.  I'm going back.
If you are on a budget, and want to meet other World travelers
then stay at Pensio'n Meza when in Guatemala City (on the
corner of 10th and 10th).  Antigua and Panajache'l are safe
cities with lots to do (full of gringos).
Belize: (Short for British ELIZabEth).  Go to Caye (pronounced key)
Caulker (often written Corker on maps).  It is much cheaper than 
Ambergris Caye, (which has nicer hotels, restaurants, etc.).
Arrive on a weekday and you should have no problem finding a room.
There is great snorkling close by.  Great food.  Relaxing...

For me, Guatemala == adventure, and Belize == relaxation.
Enjoy.
From: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Avis Europe Experience
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:11:35 GMT
Reply-To: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

In article <2424@cthulhuControl.COM> cbraun@Control.COM (Corinne Braun) writes:
>
> I had a similar bad experience a few years ago in Zuerich
>with one of the smaller European companies, can't think of the
>name offhand.  I requested a stop payment with the credit card        
>company based on the disputed amount.  It was settled in my favor,
>but the company has repeatedly tried to rebill my account 
>every 6 months or so since, even though I no longer have
>the account open!  In short, I guess one should beware of
>car rental in general in Europe (or at least Switz.), and
>understand in advance that the attitude there is not "The
>customer is always right."  No big emphasis on customer service!
>
I just love these gross generalizations, especially ones thrown at
continents one (presumably) doesn't live in. We hear of two complaints
about car hire in Europe and now we have to "beware of car rental in
general in Europe". Given the complaints on this newsgroup against
companies like Alamo and Thrifty, couldn't one make an equally pointless
generalization about car hire in the US?

--
Colin Morris       Ingres, an ASK company       cmorris@ws2s.ingres.com

"And there'll be more football in a moment, but first we've got
 highlights of the Scottish League Cup Final" -- Gary Newbon
From: dhi00@ccc.amdahl.com (Dario H. Impini )
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: tahoe request
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:42:28 GMT
Reply-To: dhi00@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Dario H. Impini )
Distribution: ba
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

anybody have any suggestions for a nice clean comfortable
place to stay for a couple nights on the north shore of 
tahoe?  something near the water would be nice.  

thanx, 

d
From: pabo@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Eric Pabo)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1992 21:51:56 GMT
Subject: Re: Info on US-Nat. Parks needed
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.travel

In rec.travel, pal@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Peter Loibl) writes:

    *Hi there!

    *I will be travelling through a couple of National Parks/Monumnets/Forests
    *this summer. I know that there is a possibility for making fire at each
    *camp site. As far as I do know, I am not allowed to pick up anything in
    *some parks, while I am allowed to make a fire at the camp site. So my
    *So my question is:

    *1. Is there any possibility to get some wood at the ranger stations?
I don't know if the NPS (National Park Service) will provide any firewood but
I am confident that vendors near or in the park will sell you firewood.  
The price for the firewood may be a little steep.  If you have a car you might
carry some firewood with you.  I believe that in our National Forests you are
allowed to collect dead wood for use in your camp, but not for resale. I don't 
know if they allow this in the National Parks.

    *2. If not, can I rent some equipment (axe, ...) in the USA and where
       *(we are travelling with littel baggage and might have a problem
        *bringing all that from Europe).
You might just purchase them.  An axe should be less than $20 and a good saw 
should also be less than $20.  I don't know what you would do with them when
you finish other than take them home or give them to another camper.

    *3. Any other suggestions?
Some of the parks have campfire programs.  This way you could enjoy some one 
elses fire.

Feel free to e-mail me if you have any addtional questions.


Regards,

Eric F Pabo
pabo@hpsmpa.lvld.hp.com
303-679-3947
From: achiang@sedona.intel.com (Albert Chiang)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Munich (no Vienna)
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:39:04 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation
Originator: achiang@sedona


Hi Darcy,



I am not an expert on Munich, but here is some help just in case you do not
receive any.

The first and only time I visited Munich was two months ago. The days are longer
(sunset was around 9pm), and temperature around 80F during the day, 60F during 
the night. We wore shorts during the day, sweater by night. It is now probably
warmer by now.

We did not join any of the tour groups; we rented a car and followed the tour
book. This way, we see more at a leisurely pace. I dislike being in a tourist
group. Allbeit that food and lodging is not arranged, but it was a more complete
experience to hunt for them.

They have variations of sausages and beers, and DEFINITELY try the beer gardens 
in Munich!

If your mother or sister are not of the adventurous type, then disregard the
above entirely and join a tour group (which is the topic of your help but I
cannot offer any assistance).

Munich is a great city to visit. Hope this help a tiny bit.



Albert
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Albert Chiang                       |       Hate is Contagious....      |
achiang@sedona.intel.com            |       So is a Smile   :)          | 
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From: petreman@cs.sfu.ca (Cheryl Petreman)
Subject: What to do near Atlanta?
Reply-To: petreman@cs.sfu.ca (Cheryl Petreman)
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: NA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:24:06 GMT

I'm going to a conference in Atlanta at the end of August and was planning
to spend a week touring around.  We will be renting a car and are considering
taking a tent.  What is there to do in Georgia? or South Carolina, or 
other close places?  

Thanks for your recommendations.

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: hatch@cs.utah.edu (Corey Hatch)
Subject: Re: finding village in Germany
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:07:22 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

In article luzenko@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com (Bill Luzenko) writes:
>
>Can someone help me?
>I want to visit the the town of ROTHFEST near BRESLAU where my mother
>was  born.  I need  someone to  help me locate this town in Germany.
>does someone have some information............

I just so happen to have a map of 1937 Germany with all 
town names in German on the wall in my office.  But, I
cannot locate a Rothfest anywhere within a 150km radius
of Breslau.  I have found the following within the above
radius:

Rothenburg a. Obra
Rothenburg a. Oder
Rothenburg a. Oberlausitz
Rothbach
Rothwasser
Maehrich-Rothwasser
Rothkosteletz

Are you sure it's that close to Breslau?

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From: joed@co-dev15.shearson.com (Joe D'sa)
Subject: Re: Ignore test
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:03:02 GMT

ignore -test
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From: arne@mango.mef.ki.se (Arne Elofsson)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: ISRAEL, Information needed.
Date: 30 Jul 1992 09:28:20 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I am going to Israel in August, would like some  INFO:

1. Money, Is it necessary to bring traveller checks, or will
   a VISA/MASTERCARD do ?
2. Any tips for cheap ho(s)tels in TelAviv, Haifa and Golan heights
3. Cheap rental cars, price, info ?
4. Is international driving license necessary ?
5. Safety when passing the westbank. Can I do it in an Isrealian
   car (I am not Jewish), or do I have to drive around the Westbank ?
6. Night Life in TelAviv and mainly in Jerusalem ?
Any other  valuable information is also appreciated

Thanks
Arne Elofsson Arne@mango.mef.ki.se
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: New Zealand and Australia
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 04:40:17 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand
Keywords: when, where, how much...

In article <gwf.711894504@sapphire> gwf@sapphire.bellcore.com (George W. Fleming) writes:
>My wife and I are talking about going to New Zealand and Australia one of
>these days...and we are trying to figure out just when we might go...
>
>Naturally, some of our questions are...
>
>	When is the best time to go?  

It's very wet in New Zealand at the moment!  The seasons are reversed from 
the Northern Hemisphere.  Spring or summer would be a good time.  October
to March perhaps.

>	How much time should be spend there?  (is 3 weeks reasonable?)

For Australia AND New Zealand!!!!  I would suggest that 3 weeks is a little
short!!  You'd be rushing either place with only 3 weeks let alone both.

>	How much driving/flying is needed?

Quite a bit - especially in Australia.



Derek Tearne
 

-- 
Derek Tearne  derek@icl.co.nz or derek@fivegl.co.nz --Fujitsu SDC,Auckland,NZ

My 'self aware' .signature file failed his Turing test.  
It turns out he was just a chess playing midget in a decorative box.
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