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From: visbieda@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Christopher Bieda)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs,alt.bbs.lists,alt.bbs.lists.d
Subject: Re: Docs for BBs
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:05:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul28.022223.17843@athena.mit.edu>, samaa@athena.mit.edu (Wissam Y Ali-Ahmad) writes...

>   Does anyone of you out there know where I can find documentations
> about how to open your own BBS ?  (Books, FTPs,etc.)

Wissam, there's a pretty good book from Bantam called, "The Complete Electronic
Bulletin Board System Starter Kit," which contains a copy of RBBS-PC 15.1 on
disks, and a pretty fair general discussion of BBS operation.  I recommend it,
wholeheartedly to anyone who intends to use RBBS, moderately to anyone setting
up (or contemplating the setting up of) a first BBS, not at all to pros.
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs,alt.bbs.lists,alt.bbs.lists.d
From: samaa@athena.mit.edu (Wissam Y Ali-Ahmad)
Subject: Docs for BBs
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 02:22:23 GMT

 Hi ,

   Does anyone of you out there know where I can find documentations
 about how to open your own BBS ?  (Books, FTPs,etc.)


				Thank you
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: laurelh@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Laurel Hellerstein)
Subject: Re: Computing Across America
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:05:45 GMT

Perhaps this is not the most appropriate newsgroup to post this
query to... but the folks that read this group seem to have answers
to everything!

Today Phil Donahue featured a man buy he name of Stephen Roberts who
travels across the US on a bicycle that is totally connected  to
the rest of the world via various computers.  He spoke at length
about his activity on Internet and how he is never lonely, keeps
in touch with the world etc. by his on-board computers.

He spoke of a book he wrote entitled _Computing Across America_.

My questions are...1) Has anyone seen and read this book?
2) Does anyone know where I can get a copy?
and most important...

3) does anyone have his internet address? (He kept talking about his
connection to San Diego)

B.T.W.  This was a terribly interesting show... I never knew of 
this guy's existence... anyone else heard of him?


























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From: peckd@lonexc.rl.af.mil (Daniel P. Peck)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Searchlight (Bidirectional Flame)
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:01:05 GMT
Organization: RL

1. Threading is easy.  Take some time and get to know it.  It shouldn't take
too long.  Is 'next' really that hard to understand???  Is 'original' (message)
that difficult to comprehend???  fnord is correct, the threading is very
powerful, and one of the many reasons I like SearchLight BBS.

2. No, not quite.  The user passwords were hidden for a reason - a good one.
Imagine if all passwords were in plain text.  Crackers ("Hackers" by some
people...) would have the time of their life!  It would make their 'job'
a whole HECK of alot easier!  They don't need to go trying to decipher encrypted
passwords anymore, they just grab 'em and use 'em!  Imagine if the SysOp
password were in plain text.  If anyone happened to find a hole in the system
(most likely a door/external program) and got hold of that file - that could
mean the end of your system, and everyones private email, or any other private
things!  Rethink on that one.  It's not the sysop that is to be distrusted,
it's the renegade user who's trying to attack your system!

3. Well, gee, that's funny, because the ==majority== of SL sysops that *I*
know LOVE SearchLight, myself included!  Try PCBoard on for size, or some
other 'Top BBS'.  You think SL is confusing!

-- Dan "Steele" Peck
From: smash@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Scott Mash)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Netters, Please!  Watch expletives here
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:21:53 GMT
Organization: Smasher Land BBS (614)593-8359

In article <1992Jul24.150959.1367@lub001.lamar.edu> lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu writes:
>Netters,  please!  COMP.BBS.MISC is *NOT* the place to let your language
>run loose!  Most of us seem to have a sense of decency for some of our
>fellow users, but a few don't really care. For those that don't care, please
>do the rest of us a favor and carry your filthy language to alt.filth.nothing.
>and let us discuss *intelligent* stuff here.

Look everyone it is the net.censor.  Nothing has been said in this
group that you couldn't hear in your average kindergarden classroom.


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From: gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Life...)
Subject: Re: New York Times article on BBS's
Organization: Ursa Minor Beta, 402-476-8047 @ 2400
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 04:56:51 GMT

sean@sdg.dra.com writes:

>The business section of the Sunday (July 19) New York Times had an article
>on BBS's.  Overall a pretty standard intro to BBS article.  But one thing
>caught my attention, the pronunciation of the word "sysop."   I've always
>heard "sysops" pronounced as "sis-ops", not "sigh-sops" as written in the
>article.  Is this a New York accent?, or have I been saying it wrong for
>the last twelve years?

I pronounce it "sis-ops", but I don't pronounce modem "mah-deem"
(modulator-demodulator). :-)

-- gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Life...)

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Subject: Re: New York Times article on BBS's
From: tfarmer@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Farmer)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 00:04:37 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <Brv156.3GL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jvmg9796@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Doc) writes:
>leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson) writes:
>
>>For what it is worth, The *format* is owned by Compuserve. They just
>>let folks use it freely. And the standards document says it is pronounced
>>"jif"...
>
>Oh yeah, well fuck what CI$ says. So there! :)

Excuse me, you left out a 'u'. I edited it for you. :-)

Good to see someone else who doesn't let pseudo-authority get in the
way of aesthetics.

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From: gkendall@ncr-mpd.FtCollins.NCR.COM (Guy Kendall)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Windows and FOSSIL Drivers. Need HELP!!
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:42:57 GMT
Reply-To: gkendall@ncr-mpd.FtCollins.NCR.COM (Guy Kendall)
Organization: NCR Microelectronic Products Division

In article <1992Jul21.173816.3666@ms.uky.edu> kramer@ms.uky.edu (Mike Andrews) writes:
 >
 >....or OS/2 2.0, if you have 8+ meg of RAM and 32+ meg of free disk.
 >It's a good deal better than DESQview (which in turn is a good deal better
 >than Windoze) at multitasking DOS apps.  I've been running my BBS under it
 >for quite a while now, and it's a lot more stable and smooth than DESQview was.
 >(I'm using a USR Dual Std on a 386/40 with some custom-hacked BBS software)
 >
 >BTW, if you do go with OS/2, you'll need to use the newest X00 (v1.49a); 
 >BNU (1.70) dosen't like OS/2 very much (well, there's a com driver patch for 
 >OS/2, maybe that fixed the BNU problem, but X00 works fine -- I should try 
 >BNU with the new com drivers and see if it works now...)  

Are you able to get full speed (14.4kbps) sends from your DOS based BBS
under OS/2 2.0? I agree that OS/2 2.0 is a much better multi-tasker than
Desqview. I really like OS/2, but it's comm drivers suck for DOS programs.
It has to do with a 1000 interrupt per second limit through the VDM IBM
tells me. I have been running my DOS based BBS (Telegard) for a few months
under OS/2 2.0 and it works OK except for high speed sends from my 
computer. They are too slow, only like 1200 cps.



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From: lundberg@rhombus.cs.jhu.edu (Andrew Jon Lundberg)
Subject: WWIV, for those that want information on BBS programs
Summary: A few notes about the WWIV BBS program
Keywords: WWIV, BBS program
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 02:45:04 GMT

Since people have asked for information about other PC BBS programs (after
seeing the Searchlight wars), I thought I'd post this.

WWIV is a BBS program written in C that is probably most unique in that 
the source code is available to all registered users. Obviously this gives
real maximum flexibility.

WWIV doesn't currently allow the sharing of data files, and thus cannot be
run multiline, but there is some effort to change that. As WWIV source code 
is in the hands of so many people, there is quite a bit of modification of
the BBS. Modifications (in c code) are distributed on many BBS's and on 
several networked subs. The enhancement of WWIV thus often comes from the
thousands of WWIV sysops (there are currently about 1200 systems in the
largest network, the WWIVnet) rather than only from the author, Wayne Bell. 
Ownership of modification code is not jealously hoarded, and thus it is
possible for WWIV to evolve quite quickly.

Because WWIV is shareware, and is also very inexpensive to register ($50),
a lot of people use it to run BBS's. It was once written in Basic, then in
Pascal, and since version 4.0 in C. The current version is 4.21. The next
update is to include a standardized method for handling multiple networks.
Of course there are mods available to do that now. As you might imagine, 
releases of WWIV generally are standardizations of modifications that are
the most useful. Wayne Bells major contributions of late have generally
been in the WWIV networking capabilities.

Andrew Lundberg

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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: New York Times article on BBS's
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 01:08:01 GMT

medic@milton.u.washington.edu (Travis Lauricella) writes:

>One I've been wondering about recently is GIF.  The "G" stands for graphic,
>but I've heard it pronounced "JIF" more times than not.  Is there a 
>pronunciation which is considered correct, or are both acceptable?

I've seen some specification from Compuserve that said it was
pronounced 'jif'.  I looked at the 89A spec doc, and it doesn't
mention pronounciation.  Maybe someone else can find it.
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From: lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Any Good Programmers for BBSes/Doors?
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:45:02 +1700
Organization: Lamar University - Beaumont

Any real good C Programmers or Quick Basic 4.5+ programmers around?  
I would like to start a new programming group in the area of BBS
software and Door Software.  If you have good programming habits and
write error-free code in C, Turbo C, Pascal, C++ and QB4.5+, I would like
to hear from you regarding this.

Phillip at Lamar University
Information Systems Group
User ServiceDivision/Computer Maintenance
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: stmfarqu@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Michael J. Farquharson)
Subject: Supra V.32bis Sysop needs help (Maximus 2.01)!
Originator: stmfarqu@atlas.cs.upei.ca
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 23:53:47 GMT

        Well, I got my new modem... it's a SupraFaxModem... it arrived in
less than 2 weeks (and I'm in Canada) straight from Supra... not bad.

        However, I've got a few problems with it... I run a BBS under
Maximus 2.01 and things are not working 100%.  It started out so that no
one could even connect to the thing unless they had another 'faster than
2400 baud' modem, which amounts to about 1 person here on P.E.I., but I
fixed that.  Now, the major problem I have is this... when users call up
my board... they are losing some of the characters... namely the ones at
the beginning of the transmission...  Like they lose the top two lines of
a Menu but pick up half way through....  I guess anything that starts at
the top of a screen just doesn't all come through.

        Now, I know that I'm connected at 2400 with them, I know that from
the cute little display that flashes '24' at me.  So.... what am I doing
wrong.  Here's my Init String, I made it up generally by myself with some
assistance from the very adequate manuals that accompanied the modem:

        AT&F2&Y0E0M0V1S0=0 (Right?  Wrong?  I'm no expert, but it answers!)

        Also, I have my Baud Maximum set to 19200baud.... but the modem will
actually only do 14.4k with max throughput of 57.6k... should I set it to
one of these instead?  Oh yeah, I have CTS/DSR enabled, I don't REALLY know
what those are either... but Maximus suggests that for faster than 9600 you
really should enable them.

        Finally, when a call comes in, Maximus says that it's connected at
19200.... even though it's only at 2400?  Any idea why?  Any help would be
greatly appreciated.  The sooner the better as I'd like to get this puppy
working ASAP.  Thanks a lot

===============================================================================
stmfarqu@upei.ca         |  Sysop:  Starbase 1 BBS, Sherwood, P.E.I., Canada
Michael Farquharson      |  Phone:  (902)-628-1230
UPEI Engineering         |  Running Maximus with Supra V.32bis modem!!!
===============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Subject: Re: Searchlight
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:38:19 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <DHOLLAND.92Jul26174525@husc10.harvard.edu> dholland@husc10.harvard.edu (David Holland) writes:


>I think I will throw in here that Searchlight has always struck me as a 
>brain-dead Citadel.

Interesting.  When Searchlight was written there was no Citadel.

Immitation is the sincerest form of flattery.  Besides, I doubt that
Citadel really has the performance advantage of Searchlight (regardless of
what "doc" thinks).
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Windows and FOSSIL Drivers. Need HELP!!
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:50:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: qiclab.1992Jul21.205033.6543
Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.

mchalmer@mcs213a.cs.umr.edu (Matthew Chalmers) writes:

>You might try running the BNU FOSSIL instead of X00. The .EXE file has more
>control over the port, and therefor YOU have more control over the port. BNU
>is also a bit more see-thru, whereas X00 often jumps right up and proclaims
>"This is MY port, leave it alone!" and Windows doesn't appreciate it.

>You also might try running BNU at the start of your window, like when you
>open RA from Windows. With the .EXE file, you are allowed to load it at
>any time, and likewise allowed to unload it when you don't need it anymore.
>The X00 .SYS device driver (as well as BNU's device driver, if you should
>use it) normally has to be loaded at boot-time, making it a lot less
>flexible.

Well, X00 v1.24 (out for quite some time) let's you rename the SYS
file to EXE and load it as a TSR. It'll also *unload* then. So the correct
way to run XOO under Windows is to run X00.EXE in the window. And to
use the included XU program for fine tuning things.

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: peckd@lonexc.rl.af.mil (Daniel P. Peck)
Subject: Re: Searchlight sucks
Organization: RL
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 13:04:00 GMT

>of the sentence gives me an idea.  Secondly, are you a USER of SL or a SYSOP?
>There are big differences in the 2 perspectives.  From a user's standpoint
>its not so bad.  The ansi menu system is a Good Thing.  But if youve ever
>tried to run an SL board, you would see just how incredibly poor a piece
>of software it is from the sysop's perspective.  Right down to the fact

I am BOTH.  As a user, I love SearchLight.  Very simple and easy to use.
It's the best BBS, as far as I'm concerned.  
As a SysOp, I still enjoy it.  It's not very difficult to run.  Being a user,
I can understand how it works.  And, now, with the configurability, I can
make it do anything else I want it to, if I didn't like the way it worked!
I can even set it up so that the USERs can CHOOSE which way they like it.
 For instance, for my Commodore users, I have a setup that allows them to
use the board as if it were an AA BBS - a Commodore BBS, which I ran previous
to SL.  Their choice.  Default is of course, Frank's menus.  I don't see
what you see as so difficult in setting it up or running it.  It's all completely
menu driven!!  How can you go wrong with THAT???  Since you bought the BBS,
if you need help - just ask.  Frank is too busy to handle every query that
comes by him.  But,if you want, I'm perfectly willing to assist you!  I'm
just wondering what you find so bad/so hard about being a SysOp of SL?

NOt only have I tried to run it, I have been running it for about a year
now, with enhancements coming ALL the time.  It's never failed me, unlike
my hard drive, and some other programs.

-- Dan "Steele" Peck
From: gordon@pinetree.org (Gordon Dewis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: PCBoard Systems Active on the Usenet
Keywords: PCBOARD BBS GATEWAY UUPCB SPARKWARE
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 09:07:32 EDT
Organization: Gordon's Pinetree * Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

gkendall@ncr-mpd.FtCollins.NCR.COM (Guy Kendall) writes:

> Are these BBS's reachable by RLOGIN or TELNET that are on Internet,
> or do they just have email addresses? That would be cool to be able to
> TELNET to a few BBS's.

One system is well.sf.ca.us, located in San Francisco, CA.  It is a pay 
system, but it offers a lot and the rates aren't too bad.

There are other systems which are free also available by telnet.

  --G

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From: esaffle@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ed Saffle)
Subject: Re: New York Times article on BBS's
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:40:14 GMT

In article <14kv1kINNg06@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (tuu) writes:
>
>In article <mtpins.711668470@icaen.uiowa.edu> mtpins@icaen.uiowa.edu (Michael T Pins) writes:
>}Keep in mind that most computer "terms" are concatenated abbrev's.
>}In this case, SYStem OPerator.  Pronounce them accordingly.
>
>	I really dislike this argument, but I used to use it myself....
>
>	I dislike it because it's NOT true.  There are many many terms that
>are abbreviations/acronyms that are *not* pronounced the way in which the
>original words are.  There are only two I can think of at the moment, one
>of which is a computer term.

Okay...your examples are really acronyms and not abbrevations.  However I do
agree with you on this point.  Why?  Well, what does MODEM stand for?
I have always heard MOdulator/DEModulator.  Likewise I have always haerd it
pronounced as mode-em.  When I was just starting out with all this stuff (god
only knows how long ago) I first pronouonced it mod-em, but then I found
myself pronouncing it the other way once I found others to converse with.

ed
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: des@frogland.inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd)
Subject: Re: Pronouncing GNU (was Re: New York Times article on BBS's)
Organization: INMOS architecture group
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 14:39:28 BST

In article <Jul.24.22.40.29.1992.17740@pilot.njin.net>, pfaffman@pilot.njin.net (Jay Pfaffman) writes:
>hobbit@ac.dal.ca writes:
>
>>What I'm curious about, is how do you folks pronounce 'GNU'?  
>>'Nu' is proper (for the animal, anyway) but i've never heard anything 
>>but 'ge-nu' used for the software.
>
>Some official GNU doc that I read suggested that the G be pronounced,
>"to avoid horrible confusion."  I've always said GNU (one syllable),
>although Gee New could work too.

people who don't know how to pronounce gnu obviously need to
listen to flanders & swan (a 1950s-ish uk "review" song duo)
singing their "gnu song" where the chorus is

"i'm a Gnu, i'm a Gnu
 the Gnicest work of Gnature in the zoo.
 i'm a Gnu, spelt G-N-U,
 call me <??> or okapi and i'll sue
 nor am i in the least, 
 like that awful hartybeast, 
 oh Gno, Gno, Gno, i'm a Gnu"

where the G's indicate a pronounced G. i've forgotten
what animal the <??> is and i think i've also missed out
a couple of lines ... but you get the general idea.


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