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Subject: Jan. 22 Concert of Baroque Music
From: "Stephen T. Moore" <STMOORE@PUCC.BITNET>
Date: 04 Jan 1993 08:16:55 -0500 (EST)
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Le Triomphe de l'Amour, New Jersey's ensemble performing Baroque music on
period instruments, will present its second concert of the 1992-3 season on
Jan. 22 at 8 p.m. at the Unitarian Church of Princeton, New Jersey. The program
will include the E minor sonatas for violin and the D major sonata for gamba
by J.S. Bach, the E minor Paris Quartet (2d book) by Telemann, and "La
 Piemontoise" from Couperin's "Les Nations". Performing with the group are
David Myford, violin, Tom Moore, flute, Donna Fournier and Anne Lazarides, bass
es de viole, and Janet Palumbo, harpsichord. For info, e-mail to STMOORE AT PUC
C.PRINCETON.EDU or call 609-882-3086.
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Subject: Early Music Ref. Bks.
From: E7M7GRI@TOWSONVX.BITNET
Date: 04 Jan 1993 21:12:24 -0500
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Often I will hear a piece of early music I like and then try to locate the
music for a particular work.  I have used the Anna Harriet Heyer's book (Histori
   cal Sets, etc) a lot in order to trace a source for the piece.  However, I of
   tendo not find the work I'm looking for in this reference.
Are there any other sources I might try?  Recordings often include the modern
sources for works which is a great help.  But I often have problems locating
music for Anonymous Medieval and Renaissance works.  I understand there is a
new major refernence work coming out soon by Fallen Leaf Books.  Does anyone
know about this?  Also some libraries apparently have a computer database for
locating early music titles.  Does anybody know about this?  I am sure this
is a problem for many performers of early music.  I would appreciate a thorough
discussion on various research techniques for locating performance editions.
Thanks.
Gene
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From: gerhard@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Gerhard Fohler)
Subject: York Early Music Festival
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Dept. for Realtime Systems, AUSTRIA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 10:12:09 GMT


Does anybody know, whether the program and dates for the York Early
Music Festival have been announced already?

Thanks,


Gerhard

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Subject: RE: Query: Salomone Rossi
From: Dave Lampson <lampson@SOFTWARE.PULSE.COM>
Date: 05 Jan 1993 17:52:28 -0500 (EST)
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In a recent message, Kim Plofker writes:
>   Anything that anybody can tell me about the music of Salomone (or
>Solamone?) Rossi will be gratefully received.   Information, recommendations,
>references, all are welcome.  Thank you very much,

Salamone Rossi (c. 1570 - c. 1630) was apparently a Hebraic composer.
There is one recording (Harmonia Mundi HMA1901021) that contains his
"The Songs Of Solomon" sung in Hebrew by the Boston Camerata along
with several other works.

Dave
lampson@pulse.com
From: peekstok@stein.u.washington.edu (Anna Peekstok)
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: Re: tous les matins du monde
Date: 7 Jan 1993 17:17:18 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
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Regarding the question about non-musician actors successfully portraying
musicians, in "Truly, Madly, Deeply," actor Alan Rickman portrayed the
ghost of a cellist and appears in several scenes to be playing the cello.
At the Seattle International Film Festival, Rickman said that he cannot
play the cello and these scenes were created by "movie magic", by which I
understood him to mean that a cellist was positioned off-camera and
reached around him to hold the instrument or something similar. The
performance scenes were similar in angle and tightness to those in "Tous
les matins," but MUCH more effective. I am not a gamba or cello player but
I found the aimless meandering of the actors' fingers in "Tous les matins"
ridiculous and unforgiveable.

Anna Peekstok (peekstok@u.washington.edu)
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Subject: RE: Plastic recorder recommendations
From: Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Date: 04 Jan 1993 13:12:37 -0500 (EST)
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On Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:27:09 GMT Richard Hargrove said:
>Early music netters:
>
>I specify plastic because it's my understanding that a good plastic
>recorder is better than a cheap wooden one, and I can't justify the
>cost of a good wooden one.

Probably true, but consider that a *good* wooden one will last ya 50 years
or more.  That amortizes to quite a reasonable figure.  However, I agree:
do your learning on plastic, buy good wood when you are comfortable with
the mechanics.

>the Yamaha?  Any suggestions for maker and model for the sopranino,
>possibly including don't bother?  Any comments at all?

Don't bother (unless you really want to).  There's virtually nothing for a
'nino to play, especially with a group.

>On a related topic, some of the local recorder players here in Dallas
>have said that unless you can get an exceptional instrument, wooden
>recorders are generally no longer worth what you pay for them.  Comments?

Yeah, I don't believe them, except as regards cheap wood.  Moeck's are
probably worth it, if you get a discount on the instrument, which most dealers
will give you.  Handmades, under the reasoning of my first paragraph, are
definitely worth it.

>Finally, I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on how to handle
>condensation in a plastic recorder?  I find that condensation builds up
>and constricts air flow after only a few dozen bars of play.  When I
>try to draw it out at a convenient time during play (usually during a rest),
>I produce a sound that is not aesthetically appealing.  I also find that
>there are times when it is difficult to breathe, draw, and play in the
>time allotted.
>
Use "anti-condens" or its equivalent, or more simply, wash the head joint in
a warm solution of dishwasher detergent once a week.  Swish it around the suds
thoroughly; rinse lightly; air-dry.  Plastic won't mind this treatment.
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Subject: RE: Query: Salomone Rossi
From: "Stephen T. Moore" <STMOORE@PUCC.BITNET>
Date: 06 Jan 1993 08:12:06 -0500 (EST)
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Roger Lustig pegs Rossi as a Venetian - Iain Fenlon in his article for Grove
speculates that he was born and died in Mantua (with a probable birth date of
1570) and puts the dispensation regarding the yellow badge there under duke
Vincenzo Gonzaga. The largest part of his output was his madrigals, five books
in five voices, one in four voices, a book of canzonette in three voices, a
set of madrigaletti for two voices. Rossi was not the only Jewish composer of
madrigals -  if I'm not mistaken Leone Leoni of Verona was also Jewish and
produced five books. -Tom Moore STMOORE AT PUCC
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From: sbloch@silver.cs.umanitoba.ca (Stephen Bloch)
Subject: Re: Plastic recorder recommendations
Organization: Computer Science, University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 04:31:23 GMT

On Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:27:09 GMT Richard Hargrove said:
>the Yamaha?  Any suggestions for maker and model for the sopranino,
>possibly including don't bother?  Any comments at all?

Several people have pointed out that there's almost nothing for a
sopranino to do in a group.  I use a sopranino for one purpose, and
one purpose only: dance music outdoors.  For what it's worth, mine is
a plastic Aulos.

Somebody posted that plastic is a reasonable material for altos and
larger, but that it's almost impossible to cast it properly to the
tolerance necessary in a soprano or smaller.  This disagrees with the
advice I got from the proprietor of Pam Music in L.A. (I've forgotten
his name) when I was looking at his instruments at a workshop.  To
wit: the finer tolerances necessary for a small instrument like a
sopranino make the instrument more fragile, and plastic is more likely
to survive the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune than is wood.
So although a NEW wooden sopranino might sound better than a plastic
one, within a year something will have happened to it and it'll sound
terrible.

I dunno.
-- 
					Stephen Bloch
				sbloch@silver.cs.umanitoba.ca
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From: brandon@gauss.math.brown.edu (Joshua Brandon)
Subject: Re: Query: Salomone Rossi
Organization: Brown University Mathematics Department
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:10:20 GMT

Kim --- I've got a copy of a setting of a Hallel (I think) by Rossi that I
sang at Harvard.  Very baroque'ish style.  Remind me to bring it to
rehearsal when we start up again....

			---josh

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From: gadfly@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (Gadfly)
Subject: Re: tous les matins du monde
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:33:06 GMT
Summary: Skip it.

In article <EARLYM-L%93010501302196@AEARN.EDVZ.UNIVIE.AC.AT>,
MAINT2@ERS.BITNET (Ken Koester) writes:
> Ok, the holiday film treat for me was Tous Les Matins Du Monde...

Must have been a very boring holiday season for you.  This film
finally made it to Chicago, and I rushed to see it.  What a dis-
appointment.  And a as a gambist, I was simply embarrassed.
It has the same passionate, tempest-in-a-teapot character as the
French Baroque music it details, but the intimacy simply does not
work on the big screen.  And Depardieu sleepwalks--literally--through
the whole thing.  (Honestly, the only movie in which he was well
cast--the part I think he was born to play--was "Danton", but that's
another story.)

> Back to the music: not only are there stunning viole performances
> of the music of Sainte Columbe and Marais by Jordi Savall...

True, but you don't have to be a rocket scientist, nor even a
gamba player, to see that what Savall plays is not what the actors
are mimicking.  It's not even close.  Well, Depardieu fils probably
had a few cello lessons.  Otherwise it was pretty dismal acting--
amateur "air guitar" players are more convincing musicians.

But OK, let's overlook the ungainly pseudo-playing.  The worst
discontinuity was a scene--and not just any scene, the *denouement*--
which takes place on a cold January night.  So how come all the trees
were all in full leaf?  Sheesh.  I would have fallen asleep, but I
was laughing too hard.

               *** ***
Ken Perlow   ***** *****
05 Jan 93   ****** ******   16 Nivose An CCI
            *****   *****   gadfly@ihspc.att.com
             ** ** ** **
...L'AUDACE!   *** ***   TOUJOURS DE L'AUDACE!  ENCORE DE L'AUDACE!
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From: rmb@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu (Robert Braham)
Subject: Re: Query: Salomone Rossi
Reply-To: rmb@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu
Organization: Computer Center, CUNY Graduate School, New York NY 10036
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:09:32 GMT

Don Harran (there's an accent there somewhere), currently at
Hebrew University, Jerusalem, has a couple of articles
(_acta musicologica_, and j. of musicology, i think) on
rossi.  Sorry i cant remember better cites.  Also, he has
a big book on "hebrew and humanism", or something like that,
in which rossi figures as well, of course.

btw, rossi's sister europa was a favorite singer of monteverdi.
Which reminds me, ian fenlon's _music in mantua_, or something
like that monograph, has a very good chapter on the jewish
dramatic troupes of the time.
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Subject: Query: Salomone Rossi
From: Kim Plofker <ST402808@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Date: 05 Jan 1993 17:30:59 -0500 (EST)
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   Anything that anybody can tell me about the music of Salomone (or
Solamone?) Rossi will be gratefully received.   Information, recommendations,
references, all are welcome.  Thank you very much,

                              Kim Plofker
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From: roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
Subject: Re: Query: Salomone Rossi
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:54:57 GMT

In article <9301052252.AA24067@software.pulse.com> lampson@SOFTWARE.PULSE.COM (Dave Lampson) writes:
>In a recent message, Kim Plofker writes:
>>   Anything that anybody can tell me about the music of Salomone (or
>>Solamone?) Rossi will be gratefully received.   Information, recommendations,
>>references, all are welcome.  Thank you very much,

>Salamone Rossi (c. 1570 - c. 1630) was apparently a Hebraic composer.

I'm not sure what that is, but he was Jewish, and composed some sacred
settings of Jewish liturgical texts.  

>There is one recording (Harmonia Mundi HMA1901021) that contains his
>"The Songs Of Solomon" sung in Hebrew by the Boston Camerata along
>with several other works.

Rossi was also one of the important early figures in the history of the 
trio sonata.  He was well-respected among the Gentiles of his native 
Venice, who allowed him to go without the yellow star.  His polyphonic
settings in Hebrew were found to be OK for synagogue use by a board
of rabbis; the modern edition of the "Songs of Solomon" includes the 
decision.

Roger
From: john@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: Re. York Early Music Festival
Date: 8 Jan 93 10:26:25 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

gerhard@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Gerhard Fohler) writes:

>Does anybody know, whether the program and dates for the York Early
>Music Festival have been announced already?

The full program has not yet been announced, but some (unconfirmed)
details are known. The 1993 festival will take place in the ten days
from Friday 9th to Sunday 18th July. The theme is pan-European music,
a change from the city- or country-themed festivals of recent years.
Several groups from western and eastern Europe have been invited.

On the 10th July the Czech group Musica Antiqua Praha will perform C17
music from Prague. Sunday 11th July will see Musica Petropolitana
performing music from C18 imperial St. Petersburg, reflecting western
influence on the court. Later on Sunday, there is a purely English
programme from the Rose Consort of Viols entitled `Gloria Tibi Trinitas',
and featuring music from about 1520 by John Taverner, and music by
William Byrd, Orlando Gibbons and Thomas Tomkins.

The group `Trio Sonnerie' will perform a concert called `Music for
two French kings' featuring works by Couperin and Rameau. There will
be a concert by Malcolm Proud, Lisa Beznosiuk and Richard Tunnicliffe
of music from Dublin circa 1740. Other European visitors will include
the Locke Consort, Manno van Delft (harpsichord) and the possible
appearance of a Spanish choir.

The concert will end with Anthony Rooley's Consort of Musicke performing
pieces by Dowland, and music which he might have heard on his European
travels - in a concert called `Mr. Dowland's Grand Tour'.

I will post the full programme as soon as I receive it.

John A. Murdie
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Subject: RE: FTP site opens
From: mwitten@HERMES.CHPC.UTEXAS.EDU
Date: 08 Jan 1993 09:29:53 -0600 (CST)
In-reply-to: <9301081522.AA18221@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu>; from "Paul J. Everett"
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Comments: <Parser> W: FROM field duplicated. Last occurrence was retained.

FTP stands for File Transfer Protocol. It is a means of transfering
any sort of file over the INTERNET. The INTERNET is an electronic
communications network that links many universities, government laboratories,
private companies, etc. by computer. It is more than just electronic
mail. For those of  you that are really interested in the INTERNET etc
I could post some things if you wish. Otherwise, I hope that this
begins to address your question.  FTP is one of the standard means
for electronic file transfer...`



>
> Could someone tell me what FTP means and what the purpose of the FTP site is?
>


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From: YANASAK@RALVM5.VNET.IBM.COM
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 08:31:02 EST
Subject: Central & Eastern European instrument request
Newsgroups: rec.music.early

Does anyone know of a good source of information regarding
instruments that were used in Medieval / Renaissance Central and
Eastern Europe?  (Current folk instruments would be okay as well.)
Note: the source doesn't necessarily have to be in english.

Thanks,
-Ivan Yanasak                        yanasak@ralvm5.vnet.ibm.com
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From: charlesc@engin.umich.edu (Charles QC Chan)
Subject: Re: Depeche Mode Import
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 20:27:31 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

  Are you talking about "Crucfix"? It is actually included in US version.
(remember the prelude before Policy of Truth?)

charles
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From: bwehr@eccdb1.pms.ford.com (M. Bruce Wehr)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Looking for symphonic rock
Followup-To: poster
Date: 7 Jan 1993 15:13:28 GMT
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    A recent request for "The London Symphony Orchestra Plays the Music of
    Jethro Tull: A Classic Case" on CD has piqued my interest.

    What other symphonic rock discs are out there?

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From: roy@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy J.)
Subject: problems with Used Music Server?
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:46:34 GMT


In the past couple of days, I've sent messages such as HELP and LIST to
the Used Music Server (used-music-server@cs.ucsb.edu) but I haven't
received any reply.  The mail didn't bounce, so I would assume that the
mail was received.  Has anyone else had problems with this lately or is
my mailer messed up?


	-roy		E-MAIL: roy@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
From: 00mjstum@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Matthew J. Stum)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: CD technology: A few random questions
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:44:18 GMT
Organization: Widget Enterprises

Just a few random questions:

1) Why isn't there a thicker layer of plastic on _top_ of the pitted metal
   layer to prevent accidently scratching through the top?

2) Why isn't the plastic itself more resistant to scratches?  Is it too
   expensive to do otherwise?  Or are there light-carrying characteristics
   in the current plastic that are unique?

3) Why don't most portable CD players contain built-in buffers to help reduce
   skipping due to jar and shock?  When this was brought up about the MD
   players it was seen as a new revelation... I would've thought it was
   common-sense.  I've got a portable player that, when sitting on my
   desk at work, will skip if I press the spacebar too hard.  A fraction-
   of-a-second buffer would do just fine in that case.  Nothing fancy.

Thanx...

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From: kruger@plains.NoDak.edu (Donovan Kruger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Pink Floyd: Shine On Box Set
Date: 12 Jan 93 04:58:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.C0q5t0.CIM
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1993Jan5.181109.26476@solace.hsh.se> jonord@solace.hsh.se (Joakim Nordlander) writes:
>[...]
> Well, I got a CD-catalogue which covers the spring there 'Shine On' still were
>included...
>
> /Jocke Sweden...

If you were talking about the U.S. Bose Music Express catalog, I'd laugh
in your face.  I called them the other day to order yet three more CDs I
couldnt find, but were listed in their "Everything Available" catalog,
only to find out "It's out of print," or "we can't locate any copies of
that at this time."  I wouldn't be surprised if they had "Shine On" listed.
'nuf said.
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From: VETTERS@vax1.elon.edu (Steve Vetter  )
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Enigma
Date: 5 Jan 1993 19:26:25 GMT
Organization: Elon College
Distribution: world
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Several weeks ago there was the discussion on Enigma's
MCMXC a.D. CD being rereleased.  Then someone mentioned
that they were being sued over sampling the Gregorian chants
from some guy named David Fairstien (?).  

Over break I bought the CD and while the package says (c)1990
the disc itself says (c)1992 and it has Fairstien listed under 
the tracks with the chanting.

Does anyone have an older copy that doesn't have this?
I'm just overly curious for my own good.
Steve 
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From: lars.gronsberg@thcave.no (Lars Gronsberg)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Danish artist on CD?
Date: 6 Jan 93 00:07:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Thunderball Cave BBS - Oslo, Norway  (47 2) 29 94 41
Reply-To: lars.gronsberg@thcave.no (Lars Gronsberg)

TO: wools@athena.mit.edu

AMW>Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
AMW>From: wools@athena.mit.edu (Aaron M Woolsey)
AMW>Subject: Danish artist on CD?
AMW>Message-ID: <1993Jan5.174621.10278@athena.mit.edu>
AMW>Keywords: Almqvist
AMW>Sender: news@athena.mit.edu (News system)
AMW>Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:46:21 GMT


AMW>        Once again, i'm looking for something on CD.  This time, it's a rec
AMW>by the Danish(?) musician Thomas Almqvist, and the name of the album is som
AMW>g
AMW>like Nyanser or Nysaner.  He plays guitar and he has a bunch of interesting

The only CD by Thomas Almqvist I found in a Norwegian mail order
catalogue is:Silent Travellers from 1989
I think he is Swedish.
lars.gronsberg@thcave.no
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