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From: exu@exu
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Geddy's bass
Summary: the shape of things to come
Keywords: bend some strings
Date: 28 Dec 92 16:47:19 GMT
Reply-To: exu@exu
Organization: Free Flying Will
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article 967@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu, khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson) writes:
|>In article <BzJ3KM.21B@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umnevile@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Benka
|>in Bowles Nevile) writes:
|>>In _Visions_ there are several pictures of Geddy with a bass that's shap
|>d
|>>sort of like a drop of water.  Does anyone know what kind this is?  I'd
|>>really like to know.
|>>
|>>Thanks.
|>>
|>>
|>
|>
|>This is a Fender Precision bass, Geddy chopped himself into that shape.
		      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 

Oh No! Geddy has been chopped into the shape of his bass! Oh No!
From: fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Alex Lifeson/Zivojinovic...
Date: 2 Jan 93 19:10:33 GMT
Distribution: usa,cnanaanada
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Dec30.225419.23852@fcom.cc.utah.edu> bd6520@u.cc.utah.edu (BALACHANDRA DESHPANDE/MECHANICAL ENGINEERING) writes:
>	Hi,
>	I read in the FAQ that Alex's real name is "Zivojinovic". Does anyone 
>know if "Lifeson" is a transliteration of the slavic name? or does anyone know 
>the story behind "Lifeson"...i thought i was pretty conversant with anglo-sax
>B
>D
>D
>names, but "Lifeson" was  new to me!
>Bala.

Well, the closest analogue I can find is the Russian root Zhiv--
(which is my lousy phonetic spelling, sorry) which is found in a
lot of words dealing with life.  Particularly in the conjugations
of the verb zhit' (to live). Does anyone know Serbo-Croatian?
For that matter, does anyone know which of the former Yugoslav 
republics Alex's family is from? (I've never seen this in the FAQ,
but I may have overlooked it. Seemed too trivial to be in there,
really.)  The "ovic" part of his last name crops up more in
SErbian and Croatian last names (pardon me for overlooking Bosnians
or Slovenians, et. al.) but to me is more familiar in the Russian
patronymic which is more than a middle name. For example,
Vladimir Ivanovich is the traditional way of making sure Vladimir's
identified with his father. Ivanovich in that example is roughly
equivalent to "son of Ivan."

So, to skip it all, Zivojinovich may (and I stress, _may_, since
I don't know Serbo-Croatian) correspond to son of life, therefore
Lifeson. Q.E.D. and on the big assumption that there are enough
similarities between the two Slavic languages. ;)

Frank Sellin
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: ji0000m@medtronic.COM (James Imholte)
Subject: Once a week reader
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:58:05 GMT

I read this group about once a week.  So I will fall behind in my comments a
bit.

Boy did I get a good laugh out of the "RUSH as Satanists" Post... Until I 
started reading the Flames Geesh.  I can understand the post from the guy
in Germany.  As it is my experience that Germans have difficulty understanding
American Sarcasm.

Also on the Skinhead OConner thing.  I liked it when a post asked "What if it
were Neal."  It reminded me of the "Super Fans" from Saturday Night Live.
"Daa... Whaat if da Bearss whas in da battle uf da bants wiff da bant Rush."

I saw another anti-RTB post.  Personally I have enjoyed every stage of RUSH's
existence.  I won't use the term Evolution as I think they were pretty evolved
from the start.  If there were one thing that I thought would have been cool
was if they would have got some raunchy back-alley rapper to do the "rap" in
RTB.

I like the fact that I have so many different RUSH "stages" of music to suit
my many musical moods.  I seem to have a favorite RUSH album for everyone.

Until next week...

Jim IMHOlte

-- 
Jim Imholte		Phoenix Circuit Design		 Consultant
Medtronic/Micro-Rel
ji0000m@tmp.medtronic.com			(602)968-6411 x6620
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: colinm@max.carleton.ca (Colin McFadyen)
Subject: Re: Rush during A FAREWELL TO KINGS period
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 14:17:58 GMT

In <1992Dec24.164632.10077@eng.umd.edu> cmermag@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Mermagen) writes:

>Anyone catch rush during this concert tour mentioned above?? I really
>love AFTK - killer album , and I would have loved to seen AFTK, Xanadu
>and Cygnus performed in concert (aside from the little snippet in the
>concert-

I saw the AFTK tour when Rush stopped at the Ottawa Civic Centre.  Opening
act was Max Webster.  Very good show.
-- 
Colin McFadyen -- Carleton U. Computing and Communications Services
Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1S 5B6                  
colinm@ccs.carleton.ca

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: mroberds@mcs213a.cs.umr.edu (Mathew C Roberds)
Subject: Re: Journey and Rush
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 06:21:42 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla
Keywords: Journey YYZ influence 
Summary: YYZ also similar to Journey? 

In article <1hm2lbINN80g@bigboote.WPI.EDU> steveso@wpi.WPI.EDU (Steven C Sousa) writes:
>	I just got the Journey box set Time^3 for Christmas [snip]
[snip]   [quote from box set notes:] 
> Again, this
>Mahavishnuesque composition attracted the attention of Journey's fellow
>musicians, notably the members of Rush, who constructed their song, "Tom
>Sawyer" along suspiciously similar lines.
[end box set quote]
>	Does anyone know if members of Rush have ever confirmed that they
>have been so influenced by Journey? I listened to the song, and there is
>enough similarity to suggest that Rush was partly inspired by this song, but I
>wonder if Rush has ever said anything about the subject.

      Well, I'm not familiar with the Journey song mentioned above, but I
have always thought that the synth chords at about the middle of YYZ (right
after Alex's solo and Neil with the big crashing noises, at about 2:52 into
the song) sounded very Journey-like, but that is of course MHO.   

      Of course, I can't complain too much.  I just checked that track timing
on my new MOVING PICTURES ULTRADISC which Santa brought... :)

>Also, doesn't every complex number have two parts, real and imaginary?

"We're sorry, you have reached an imaginary number.  Please rotate your phone
 through 90 degrees or pi/2 radians and try again."

>				Steve "don't mean to be picky, but.." Sousa

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From: kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Just who's reading this?...
Date: 25 Dec 92 21:57:20 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Dec10.045642.15550@cs.mun.ca> stephenm@odie.cs.mun.ca (Stephen Mercer) writes:
>
>  Sorry to waste the bandwidth, but I was wondering just how many of you are
>getting my posts? I've read for quite awhile, but posted only once, and I
>didn't notice any followups to it, (probably no reason to followup, anyway)
>If you see this, drop me a short line, so I know people are reading my posts
>, thus making it worthwile to post my occasional ramblings. :)
>
>And no flames about my .sig! :):)
>
>Hey, at least you guys aren't as bad as the gang in alt.---.metallica!:):)

I hear ya loud and clear. It got so bad over there that I unsubscribed from
that newsgroup. I mean, nobody was talking about Metallica's music; they
were just bitchin' and moanin' about "how good Metallica used to be". Bunch
of cry babies, really.

>
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From: cmermag@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Mermagen)
Subject: Rush during A FAREWELL TO KINGS period
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 16:46:32 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

Anyone catch rush during this concert tour mentioned above?? I really
love AFTK - killer album , and I would have loved to seen AFTK, Xanadu
and Cygnus performed in concert (aside from the little snippet in the
concert-

Later & Merry X-mas
Chris
From: waldo@arizona.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
Subject: Re: Anyone got tour dates?
Date: 28 Dec 92 14:49:19 MST
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <BzzBDx.KJI@iat.holonet.net>, phoffman@orac.holonet.net (Paul E. Hoffman) writes:
> I am also interested in dates, particularly for the San Francisco area.
> If you know them, post them!
> 
>>>Paul Hoffman
> -- 
> ||  Why quote someone else?  ||

I have a friend who just got back into town (Phoenix) from Berkeley, and he
tells me that there are like 15 good ska bands in the San Franscisco area,
and apparently there are always concerts...  I'd suggest checking out a music
type paper there or look for flyers, but I'll try to get some names for ya.

Waldo
Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
From: braunste@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov (Lance Braunstein)
Subject: bimskalabim
Organization: NASA Code 971, Oceans & Ice Branch
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:05:52 GMT

very cool show this sat night at 9:30 club.  spoke to the
keyboard player afterwards and he said the next show'll be
boston on new years and then a bunch of california dates
sometime after that.  catch them if you can.  the only lame part
of the show was when some dumb jocks started some shit with some
skinheads.  it broke up pretty fast though.  anyone hear the new
album?  sounds like it should be pretty good from the stuff they
did at the show.

steam
From: marcusj@apricot.co.uk (Marcus Jenkins)
Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
Subject: Re: The English Beat vs. The Beat
Date: 22 Dec 92 08:07:44 GMT
Organization: Apricot Computers Limited

aliu@aludra.usc.edu (Alex Liu) writes:

>Hi,
>	Hey, yesterday I got a CD called "The Beat goes on", and includes
>...[stuff deleted]...
>It is published by IRS records and it is circa 1991.  It is really interesting.
>They have the line ups of all those bands and a small note about them.

On the same sort of thread... I have being trying to get hold of the 
(totally brilliant) "I Just Can't Stop It" by the (English) Beat on CD.
All Beat CD's in the UK are imports (ironic considering they are a band
that was formed just down the road and recored the first couple of LP's
just down the road, too).  So, next time some of you people over
the pond go into a record shop, could you please take a look for me?

Incidentally, I have seen "W'Happen" and have bought "Special Beat Service",
but haven't seen the one I *really* want.  Virgin records here in 
Birmingham deny that their first LP is available on anything other
than cassette.  I find it hard to believe.

Please mail me.

Thanks in advance.

 _ _ _
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Marcus Jenkins                  apricot!marcusj@relay.EU.net
Tel: +44 21 472 3002  Fax: +44 21 471 2935
Disclaimer:  Anything I wrote above is, of course, my own view and
             does not in any way represent my employer.
Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
From: braunste@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov (Lance Braunstein)
Subject: Re: bimskalabim
Organization: NASA Code 971, Oceans & Ice Branch
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:59:41 GMT

i think their second album is called how's it goin'.  yea, brain
damage was extremely strange.  i knew i recognized it when they
started playing it but it took me a moment to remember back to
high school and think, this is pink floyd.

steam
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Friday, 25 Dec 1992 20:14:48 EST
From: <MIWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
Subject:    No Sports

Looking for No Sports, anybody seen it? Have it? Heard it?

1
Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
From: mcnally@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Mike McNally)
Subject: Re: Calling All Rude Boys and Rude Girls
Followup-To: na
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:47:43 GMT

In article 1992Dec15.172215.7243@ils.nwu.edu Faloon@ils.nwu.edu (Faloon) writes:
>There is a great ska band in Detroit, Gangster Fun. They are pretty tight.
>(3 horns) Unfortunatly, I don't don't know if their stuff is available
>outside of Detroit. They have a couple of albums. I think I've seen them
>available through one of the Ska-zines. They come through Chicago every
>couple of months.

Ugh..  Speaking of someone from the Detroit area (Ann Arbor) who goes
to a ska show every now and then, I'm sick to death of Gangster Fun.
If I had to put my finger on it, I'd put it down to the fact that they
put a lot more work into dressing rude and hopping around on stage 
than they put into their music.  It's unimaginatively written and 
poorly performed, at least judging from the at the live shows I've
been to.  Save your money for good music.

                                                             -mcnally.
From: waldo@arizona.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
Subject: Re: special beat
Date: 28 Dec 92 14:46:50 MST
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <1992Dec28.150326.9662@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, rath@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
> Hey,
> 	I have sen ads for the past two years for a band csalled the "Special 
> Beat" which claims to have members from both its namesakes.  
> 	Anybody heard the band? Know who the members are?

I've never heard the band, but I know people who have, and they're supposed
to be really good...
 
They are members of THE SPECIALS, and ENGLISH BEAT, two two-tone ska bands
from the late 70s/early 80s.  I'm not sure if there is anyone from
SPECIAL AKA, which was produced by the same guy who produced THE SPECIALS..
 
If you can get a chance to see 'em, do so..
Waldo
Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
From: montas@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Hubert J Montas)
Subject: Re: Foreign ska (kind of?)
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 05:42:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.215706.3700@netcom.com> cliftonr@netcom.com (Pope Clifton) writes:
>  Wondering if anyone else has listened to Mano Negra (Franco-Spanish
>band -- 'King of Bongo', 'Putas Fever'), and if so, do you think it is ska-
>influenced.  The first song I heard of theirs (forget what it was) I 
>immediately asked the friend who was playing it, 'Is this French SKA?'
>Then I heard some other cuts which are more like straight rock, rap, etc.
>It's pretty hard to classify, but some of it sure sounds like French 
>and Spanish ska.  Whatever it is, it's good.

     Agreed man, la Mano is pretty good. I wouldn't call them ska though. Can't
think of any song out of Puta's Fever or King of Bongo that really sounds Ska.
Check out Ludwig Von 88, Houlala II-La Mission if you can. The song William
Kramps is kind of fast-Ska!

     Hubert.


Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
From: phoffman@orac.holonet.net (Paul E. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: The English Beat vs. The Beat
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 02:46:23 GMT

>It is published by IRS records and it is circa 1991.
What is the number on the album? I can't find it in my Noteworthy
catalog but I might be able to special order it by number.

>>Paul Hoffman
-- 
||  Why quote someone else?  ||
Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
From: cliftonr@netcom.com (Pope Clifton)
Subject: Foreign ska (kind of?)
Organization: t.b, t.p.d, & a.d
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:57:06 GMT

  Wondering if anyone else has listened to Mano Negra (Franco-Spanish
band -- 'King of Bongo', 'Putas Fever'), and if so, do you think it is ska-
influenced.  The first song I heard of theirs (forget what it was) I 
immediately asked the friend who was playing it, 'Is this French SKA?'
Then I heard some other cuts which are more like straight rock, rap, etc.
It's pretty hard to classify, but some of it sure sounds like French 
and Spanish ska.  Whatever it is, it's good.

  BTW, glad to have the new group.  I caught The Selector performance with 
Skanking Pickle last summer in SF, and just missed the Special Beat there
by about a week.  I don't know what some of you were saying about ska
being dead, but it seems to me there's a revival just picking up steam.
(Which is good for me, 'cause I didn't discover ska until after the boom
of the early '80s was over -- Madness & English Beat broken up, etc.)

  There was a fair ska band here in Hawaii called Mr. Simon, but they just
disbanded this summer, so nothing really happening locally, as far as I
know.
  -- Clifton

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Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
From: lchoqu%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Lee Choquette)
Subject: Re: special beat
Date: 28 Dec 92 15:51:29 MST
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

In article <1992Dec28.150326.9662@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
rath@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
 > 	I have sen ads for the past two years for a band csalled the "Special 
 > Beat" which claims to have members from both its namesakes.  
 > 	Anybody heard the band? Know who the members are?

I heard them in Orem, Utah in early October.  I was told the band consisted of
Ranking Roger from The English Beat and three members of The Specials, although
there were about seven people jumping around on stage, so I don't know who the
others were.  They played nearly all the songs from The Specials self-titled
album, and although I'm not as familiar with The English Beat, they played the
Beat songs I did know (Mirror in the Bathroom, etc).  I thought they were
pretty good, and so did the crowd, but besides locals Swim Herschel Swim
they're the only ska band I've heard live.
  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
   . . . . Lee Choquette . . . . . . . . . .The early worm . . . . . . . . .
  . . . .lchoqu@cs.utah.edu . . . . . . . . . gets eaten. . . . . . . . . .
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
From: dlcogswe@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Dan Cogswell)
Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
Subject: Re: bimskalabim
Date: 22 Dec 92 01:34:30 GMT
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.

braunste@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov (Lance Braunstein) writes:

>very cool show this sat night at 9:30 club.  spoke to the
>keyboard player afterwards and he said the next show'll be
>boston on new years and then a bunch of california dates
>sometime after that.  catch them if you can.  the only lame part
>of the show was when some dumb jocks started some shit with some
>skinheads.  it broke up pretty fast though.  anyone hear the new
>album?  sounds like it should be pretty good from the stuff they
>did at the show.

I'm glad to hear they're coming out with a new album.  Even though some
people don't consider them a true ska band (what IS a "true" ska
band???) they definately have ska/reggae roots.  "How's it going?" was a
pretty decent album, too.  Do you have any info on the new one and where
to get it?

-- 
Dan Cogswell               Or as we say in Michigan:  "Dee-troit"
Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
From: cs151kx@lamar.ColoState.EDU ()
Subject: buffet
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:50:35 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523


Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
From: cs151kx@lamar.ColoState.EDU ()
Subject: Jimmy Buffet
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:00:33 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

	Hello,

	I heard that the jimmy buffet song, not that any of you are
	familliar with him, Margaritaville has been changed in California.

	The line but i know, it's my own damn fault"
	and the other three line that contain 'fault' in it are
	not allowed in areas of california along the san andres fault.

	Is ther any truth to this?

	lates

	ChrisTOPHer Johnston
	cs151kx@lamar.colostate.edu


Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
From: phoffman@orac.holonet.net (Paul E. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: The English Beat vs. The Beat
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:10:27 GMT

phoffman@orac.holonet.net (Paul E. Hoffman) writes:

>>It is published by IRS records and it is circa 1991.
>What is the number on the album? I can't find it in my Noteworthy
>catalog but I might be able to special order it by number.

I found it in the CD Online catalog with Alex's help. Here's the info:

 CAP13086   BEAT GOES ON                   BEAT GOES ON
 $11.79     CAPITOL  10/91  ENGLISH BEAT/GENERAL PUBLIC FINE YOUNG CANNIBALS

The price is CD Online's price, which is probably $2 less than the list
price. Noteworthy (800/648-7972) has it for $10.69.

>>Paul Hoffman
-- 
||  Why quote someone else?  ||
Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
From: montas@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Hubert J Montas)
Subject: Re: SPANISH SKA!! (was RE: Yeaay!! or something.)
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:23:57 GMT

In article <92355.141833IO81373@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO81373@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:
>
>I also have Ska in Russian and Polish... looking for other foriegn-
>language SKA for my Radio Show... any leads?  I'd need a label or
>artist who's willing to send me stuff free, cause I'm quite broke.
>
      Let's see, can I think of some French Ska?

      I'd say Molodoi, Vive l'armee du Salut is kind of Skacore. Then, Banlieue
Rouge plays a Skacore song too...can't remember the title. I'll have to listen
closer to Negresses vertes, Garcons bouchers and a couple compilations to see
if I can find more French Ska (probably less skacore).

      Cheers,

         Hubert.
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Monday, 21 Dec 1992 22:50:01 EST
From: <MIWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
Subject:    Various Skanks

I have no idea how long this group has been around, but I just happened
to scroll down to the bottom of all or the groups and here it is! Why is
this group not alphabetized with the rest of em, or is it just me and my
limited knowledge of usenet? Anyway:

     To the posting that talks about international SKA, it turns out that
ska is much more happening overseas, especially in Germany and Japan. Japan
LOVES ska, with most of their new stuff sounding like the old Skatelites.
Pick up a record called "Skankin Round the World," if you can find it, with
skankers like No Sports, and Les Internes, and hard to find famous songs like
"Pushska." and "Jah Laundromat." (I'm kinda toasted now so everything I'm
saying may be completely wrong.)

     There is a great band here in NYC that's begining to get top billing
over old greats like the Toasters and Scofflaws, called Mephiskapheles. If
you come round, check'em out.

     It's getting really tough to find great foreign ska, at least here,
so if anyone wants to exchange tapes write back. Finally, now that I have
a reason for actually dialing up the net, do I have to worry about this
group going away? Who started it? How? Obviously whoever started this group
has powers far beyond mere mortals, can this being get me some out-of-print
Pogues records I need?

                         -- Rick Yukon