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From: g9205802@cc.uow.edu.au (muralidharan chinnaiyan)
Subject: Exibition-International Conference on Environmental Management
Summary: Exibition-International Conference on Environmental Management
Keywords: Exibition-International Conference on Environmental Management
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 02:43:35 GMT


               International Conference on Environmental Management 
               ****************************************************

                         Geo-water and Engineering Aspect
                         --------------------------------
                                 
                                8 - 11 February 1993 

                              University of Wollongong         
                                     Australia


                              Exhibition Information
                              **********************

A state of the art exhibition is being planned to supplement the International 

Conference  on  Environmental  Management  to  be  held  at  the University of 

Wollongong.  This  is  indeed  a great opportunity for Australian and overseas 

companies to demonstrate and  advertise  their  expertise,  latest  equipment, 

services  etc.  in  the  general  area  of  Environmental Management focussing 

specially on Geo-water and Engineering Aspects.


The  conference  has  attracted  more than 200 abstracts from 30 countries and 

currently we have received over 100 papers.   It is expected that over 250-300 

participants will attend the conference.


Space provision and availability:
********************************

It  is  expected that over 20 booths will be made available approximately each 

9 Sq.m  in  floor area.  The allocation of booths will be done on a first come 

first  served  basis.  If you intend to occupy more than 9 Sq.m floor area you 

can rent two adjacent booths at a reduced rate.


Space rental:
************

The  rental  price  is $1600 per booth for all four days.  However if you rent 

two adjacent spaces it will be $2800 per two booths.


What will you get?

Each  booth  will  comprise  of  a  rear  wall  and  two  side  panels  each 

3.0m long x 2.4m high.  The entrance is 3.0 m in length.

One sign per booth 

2 x 150w spot lights

All walls and fascia covered with front runner material

Carpet on stands

Space reservation and payment:
*****************************

For reservation:	

please call	Mrs Val McMillan on 042-213243 (Mon- Thur)
			
		or please call	Siva M Sivakumar on 042-213055 
		
		or please fax	Siva M Sivakumar on 042-213238

 		or please E-mail M.Sivakumar@uow.edu.au

Payment:  	Should be made by cheque payable to:
		
		"University of Wollongong - R&D Geowater"




-- 

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MURALIDHARAN CHINNAIYAN                | 5/13, Hill View Avennue,
Dept. of Civil & Mining Engineering,   | Gwynneville, NSW 2500,
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: djewell@rhea.trl.OZ.AU (David Jewell - Radio and Satellite Networks)
Subject: Re: Optus/Telecom.  ( Ovs Comparisons..)
Organization: Telecom Research Labs. Melbourne, Vic, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 02:59:10 GMT

In article <doucas-221292160431@134.18.16.125> doucas@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au (Chris Doucas) writes:
>
>-  North Americans with few exceptions will not swallow paying for local
>calls. Some states do under the 'baby' bells, but I get very irritated
>having my local calls in Australia billed as total units that I cannot
>verify. Only recently, my arguements were justified in the past as Telecom
>admitted to over charging their customers on these measured units.

You failed to mention that a local call area in North America is very small
in our terms. A call from Frankston to Greensborough in Melbourne, a distance
of some 50kms, is a local call. You can talk ALL day for 24c. How much 
would such a call cost in a North American city? Do you verify your 'units'
when buying gas, electricity or water? I know the lack of a local meter on
the phone line bothers some people but most don't bother. If you really
need a local meter then I'm sure something is available.

>
>+  Telecom operator service is one of the most helpful and cheaper than
>+  Telecom coin boxes with payphone cards have the best integration of
>-  Telecom equipment based largely on Philips is outdated. I'm used to
>-  Telecom marketing is off base and needs closer identification with its
>+  Telecom long distance  is competitive.
>-  Telecom billing technology and service is atrocious. A friend from Bell
>-  Customer Service ... Instead of 'pissing' clients off for not paying
>+  Good satelite technology. why not use it more...  
>-  Telecom billing 
>the Duke..    | Australia 2303             |  +(63) 49 40 2165 / ..40 2135 

Win on the round-abouts and lose on the swings. Everything considered
though we have one of the best telecommunications networks in the world
and at an affordable price. Room for improvement? - Of course there is!
But one only has to travel a little to see just how GOOD Telecom's network
is. And it's OWNED by Australia(ns) with the books in the black. 

DJ...
From: gih900@jatz.aarnet.edu.au (Geoff Huston)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: US LInk Down
Date: 21 Dec 1992 06:20:38 GMT
Organization: Australian Academic and Research Network (AARNet)
Reply-To: Geoff Huston <G.Huston@aarnet.edu.au>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 139.130.204.4

> The link to the US is down, and has been down for about 12 minutes, ie. 
> went down at around 16:10 my time (GMT +1100). The US operations people
> have reported the fault to the US carrier (WorldCom) and when we know
> more will pass it on.

The (non-functioning) data compressor has been pulled out of the circuit
and the service has been restored.

Geoff Huston
AARNet
-- 
Geoff Huston,                           	e-mail: G.Huston@aarnet.edu.au
Manager,	 				phone: +61 6 249 3542
Australian Academic Research Network		fax:   +61 6 249 1369
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Canberra Public Access to AARNET?
From: byrnes@cbr.hhcs.gov.au
Date: 22 Dec 92 10:19:28 +1000
Distribution: world
Organization: Aust. Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services

Are there any numbers for public access to the AARNET/ Internet in Canberra?

If there are any such sites, what services do they offer?


Newsgroups: aus.general
From: quodling@stimpy.enet.dec.com
Subject: Re: AfterChristmas Sale in Sydney ?
Organization: SPR Alpha Migration Centre
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:14:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec27.224156.117@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil>, roseberry@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil writes:
> 
> 	I just saw what I would call a "filler clip" on the local TV news.
> 	Not a whole lot of info was provided but the screen showed
> 	"Sydney, NSW" and the local announcer said that it was an
> 	"After Christmas sale".  It showed kids running up escalators

I wouldn't worry, It's a once a year thing that the stores do to feed on the
shopping frenzy after Xmas. NOrmally many of said stores are very quite.

Having lived in the U.S. , there is very little except some Australia items
(and sometimes not even them) that you are likely to get in OZ than in the U.S.



-- 
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SPR Alpha Migration Centre       UUCP: ...!decwrl!stimpy.enet!quodling
Sydney, Australia                Phone: 61-2-561 7272           _--_|\
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                                 I Said it, not them                 v
From: s921574@otto (Kok CHAN)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: News to New Zealand ?
Date: 22 Dec 92 01:30:32 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: otto.bf.rmit.oz.au


Hi netters,

Could someone kindly tell me how can I post a news to New Zealand ?

Thanks in advance.

-- 
kokheng           .....  Merry Christmas & Happy New Year  .....
RMIT,
Victoria      E-mail address: s921574@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au
Australia                     
Newsgroups: aus.general,aus.news
From: Anne Douglass <adaed@marlin.jcu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: HELP NEEDED - PLEASE READ
Organization: James Cook University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 01:39:43 GMT

Subject: HELP NEEDED - PLEASE READ
From: ron house, house@helios.usq.EDU.AU
In article <house.724912074@helios> ron house, house@helios.usq.EDU.AU
writes:
>We have reason to believe that our outgoing access to the net is being
>blocked somewhere.  Would EVERYONE who reads this please be so kind as
>to reply, stating the city or town were you are located - just a one-word
>reply will be sufficient.  Thanks to everyone who can help!
>
>--
>
>Ron House.                 USQ
>(house@helios.usq.edu.au)  Toowoomba, Australia.

Just one word?  How about a few?
Merry Chrismas & Happy New Year (& SAFE holidays)

Anne
(adaed@marlin.jcu.edu.au)
From: Greg.Kerr@p2.f547.n635.z3.fidonet.org (Greg Kerr)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: Mac Classic,Bicycle,table & chair for sales (Melbourne/victoria)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:43:02

Hi ross@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU !

I remember on the 18-Dec-92 you wrote:

 >> To whom it may concern,
 >> 			Has it ever occured to anybody that you can buy a BRAND new 4/40 Mac
 >> Classic for under $1495 right here in sunny Melbourne. Lets make the
 >> for sale ads reasonable PLEASE!!!!!!!
 >> Ross.

Add on TV here in melbourne Brashes selling mac classic for $1295.00 I think he
definately needs to rethink his price.


        Cheers Greg
 * Origin: The Hidden Garden (3:635/547.2)
From: dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: Teenage daughters
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:33:51 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Pacific ESI, Sydney, AUSTRALIA
X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?"
X-Witty-Saying: "Mobius strip - see other side for instructions"

In article <1992Dec18.222128.5652@runx.oz.au>,
    richardm@runx.oz.au (Richard Murnane) writes:

| I'm suprised that Dave hasn't got her studying for her Novice Amateur Radio
| license. Two metres is cactus anyway, so we might as well fill it up with
| young adolescent females (actually, that's not a bad idea now that I think
| of it... :-)

She has shown no aptitude whatsoever for non-biological things (she
loves raising tadpoles etc).  However, my five-year-old son is quite
a different matter; more than once I've come home to find my packet
station sitting on some other frequency (fortunately NOT in beacon mode).
He has since been shown the error of his ways.

-- 
Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)         VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC
dave@esi.COM.AU                ...munnari!esi.COM.AU!dave
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: dave@philips.oz.au (David Torr)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 22:56:50 GMT
Organization: Philips Public Telecommunications Systems, Melbourne, Australia
Subject: Re: Optus/Telecom. ( Ovs Comparisons..)
Distribution: aus

doucas@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au (Chris Doucas) writes:

>Having been part of Bell Canada as well as a customer, and by association -
>MCI and AT&T; I find some good and some bad with Telecom. I have mentioned
>some of these already to my district Telegam manager, and include:

>-  Telecom equipment based largely on Philips is outdated. I'm used to
>Nortel which Optus is using.


>>              ______________________________________________________________
>Regards,      | BHP Information Technology | eMAIL:
>-------       | PO Box 216                 |  doucas@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au 
>              | Hamilton, NSW              | FAX:                PHONE:  
>the Duke..    | Australia 2303             |  +(63) 49 40 2165 / ..40 2135 

>   
>                 >> A Fool With A Tool Is Still A Fool ! << 

To the best of my knowledge the _only_ equipment that Telecom uses from Philips is ISDN Terminal Adapters and PC cards. 

We have been selected as one of the suppliers of SDH equipment to Telecom and
will be installing such state-of-the-art equipment in the field in 1993.

So is it our ISDN equipment (which is a very small %age of "Telecom equipment" 
or our SDH equipment (not yet installed) which is inferior to the Optus Nortel
equipment - and I don't think Optus are getting either ISDN or SDH from Nortel?

Can we have some fair comparisons please?????
-- 
Dave Torr                                   dave@philips.oz.au
Software Development Manager                Tel +61 3 881 3587
Philips Public Telecommunications Systems   Fax +61 3 883 3577
Views expressed are personal and do not necessarily reflect Philips' policy.
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: kerry@citr.uq.oz.au (Kerry Raymond)
Subject: Re: Vegetarian Ethics?????????????????
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 05:44:02 GMT

wadley@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fruit Loop) writes:

>The answer to the above problems, which you can safely try at home,
>is to become a frugivore.

>Like other closely-related primates, humans are natural-born fruit-eaters.

>And, to about as close an approximation as you'll ever get,
>nothing dies for your dinner. Fruit trees are in a symbiotic relationship
>with frugivores. They 'want' you to eat their fruit, and 'try' to make it
>as tasty and nutritions as possible, so that you will.

Ah, but it's vital to eat only of the apples (bananas, pawpaws, mangoes etc)
that have fallen to the ground which signifies that the fruit tree has
chosen to share its bounty with you. Picking the fruit, or shaking the
tree to make the fruit fall, is denying the tree's right to make that
choice. Fallen nuts can also be eaten. However, it's important not to
take too many fallen fruits and nuts or else the possums, flying foxes,
etc will miss out on their meal.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 30 Dec 1992 15:51:37 CST
From: <U23700@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Gibsons -- Mel, William, another...


I figured this might be a good place to ask some questions about various
people with the surname Gibson, being that Mel Gibson and his father
are from Australia. (Although I know Mel Gibson hasn't made an Australian
film in a long time).

1. I've heard more than a couple times that William Gibson (sci-fi novel-
ist of cyberpunk fame) and Mel Gibson are related. Is this true? if so,
what is the relation (brothers, uncle-nephew, by marriage only, etc.).

2. I've just read an interview with Mel Gibson in a U.S. magazine
where the interviewer states that Mel Gibson's father is against
Catholicism as it is now, and that Hutton Gibson (the father) writes
books on this topic. My question is: How seriously is Hutton Gibson's
writing taken among the popular press in Australia, or what is the
general response people have to his work?

3. Last but not least, Mel Gibson is a huge star in the U.S., where he
is considered to be the actor you need to bring loads of people in to
see a movie; his recent movies have all done very well at the box office.
Is he this popular in Australia?

Just some questions from "Up Over" in Chicago. Answers can be posted
to the list or sent directly to me at U23700@uicvm.cc.uic.edu. Thorough
research is not required, just give an opinion or some idea of what people
you know -- and you, yourself -- think. :-)


M.
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: emmang@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Emma Norling)
Subject: Re: AfterChristmas Sale in Sydney ?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 08:25:02 GMT

roseberry@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil writes:


>	I just saw what I would call a "filler clip" on the local TV news.
>	Not a whole lot of info was provided but the screen showed
>	"Sydney, NSW" and the local announcer said that it was an
>	"After Christmas sale".  It showed kids running up escalators
>	the wrong way and I think the announcer said that several people
>	were hurt.

>	What was going on ?
>        Was it a case of unbelievable bargains ?
Yeah, it was... a good example of the bargains were the 6 fridges on sale...
Reduced from $1699 to $300... they were sold 35 seconds after the doors
were opened accordig to the newspaper I read...
>	
>	I'm still saving up for my trip to Sydney but I want to know
>	what department stores to stay away from ! :)

Don't worry, this sort of madness only happens once a year...
July sales don't have such great bargains..
>	- Bert Roseberry
>	  US Coast Guard
>	  roseberry@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil

Emma Norling
..who is going to avoid Melbourne's sales tomorrow!
From: dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Optus satellite goes up (in smoke)
Date: 24 Dec 92 01:40:05 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Pacific ESI, Sydney, AUSTRALIA

Looks like Telecom got their own back...

[ For the uninitiated, there was a story that the recent spate of Telecom's
  optical-fibre breakages was due to Optus digging their own trenches. ]

-- 
Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)         VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC
dave@esi.COM.AU                ...munnari!esi.COM.AU!dave
From: s921574@otto (Kok CHAN)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: From Melb to Cairn ?
Date: 22 Dec 92 01:32:40 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: otto.bf.rmit.oz.au

A few of us are driving from Melb to Cairns along the coast line (Princess Hwy),
we plan to stop at Lake Entrance, 
                   Sydney,
                   Gold Coast, Brisbane, 
                   Townsville and finally Cairns.

We have not include other iternaries yet, could somebody share with us
your experience along this way ?
Any good places that I "must" visit, or something like that ?

Any information given will be very much appreciated.

Thanks.

--------
KokHeng         ..... Have a nice Christmas & Happy New Year   .....
-- 
kokheng           .....  Merry Christmas & Happy New Year  .....
RMIT,
Victoria      E-mail address: s921574@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au
Australia                     
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: richardm@runx.oz.au (Richard Murnane)
Subject: Can YOU Access Microsoft Access?
Organization: RUNX Un*x Timeshare.  Sydney, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 05:02:13 GMT

Hi all,
SOMETHING funny is going on here. You might have seen the ads for
Microsoft Access (their new Windows database product), which is on
"special offer" at $149 (the ads say that the price is only while
stocks last, or end of February, after which the price goes up to
the "RRP" of $1095). Ok, that ad sounds a bit flakey, but I bought
it, and I think it's well worth the $149.

The funny thing is this: I go into my local dealer (a fairly reputable
place in the Sydney CBD near where I work....)

"Hi, do you have Microsoft Access yet?"

"It's on back order, but I do have a couple of copies somebody ordered
but didn't pick up. Can you pay cash?"

"Oh, I'll wait until you get more copies in" I go to another dealer
who say they haven't received ANY copies yet. Later I read a review
which gives the product a good report, so rather than having to pay
$1K later, I get the cash and go back to the first dealer.

He asks me to come into the back room (won't bring it out on the shop
floor...), takes my cash, and says he'll send the invoice to me in
the mail.

Bit odd, isn't it? As I said, I'm quite happy with the product, as much
as I've used it in the last week, but I think it's strange that
I couldn't buy it direct from Microsoft, and that all this back-room
dealing (literally!) is going on. If I wer buying drugs from this dealer,
I don't think he could have been more secretive.

(The other thing was that three work colleagues had also ordered Access
from these guys, and they were still waiting for theirs...)

Anyone have similar experiences with accessing Access?

Cheers,
Richard

-- 
Richard P. Murnane                     "Making it up? Making it up? Why should
Internet: richardm@runx.oz.au          I want to make anything up? Life's bad
UUCP:     uunet!runx.oz.au!richardm    enough without inventing more of it."
Packet:   VK2SKY @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC   - Marvin the Paranoid Android
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: doucas@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au (Chris Doucas)
Subject: Re: Optus/Telecom.  ( Ovs Comparisons..)
Organization: BHP Information Technology
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 05:19:19 GMT
Followup-To: aus.general

Having been part of Bell Canada as well as a customer, and by association -
MCI and AT&T; I find some good and some bad with Telecom. I have mentioned
some of these already to my district Telegam manager, and include:

-  North Americans with few exceptions will not swallow paying for local
calls. Some states do under the 'baby' bells, but I get very irritated
having my local calls in Australia billed as total units that I cannot
verify. Only recently, my arguements were justified in the past as Telecom
admitted to over charging their customers on these measured units.

+  Telecom operator service is one of the most helpful and cheaper than
ovs, where operators are abrupt and are monitored strictly by time
alotments per customer.

+  Telecom coin boxes with payphone cards have the best integration of
coin/card boxes I've seen.

-  Telecom equipment based largely on Philips is outdated. I'm used to
Nortel which Optus is using.

-  Telecom marketing is off base and needs closer identification with its
customers instead of this fixation of comparing to the rest of the world.
Many Aussies really dislike Telecom, and have a negative image. This is
Telecom's biggest problem where Optus can capitalise. Telecom is market
lazy, and many of their customers are going to 'burn' them!

+  Telecom long distance  is competitive.

-  Telecom billing technology and service is atrocious. A friend from Bell
Canada acting as consultant to Telecom Billing system told me what a
nightmare it was. Has improved, needs to be improved even more. I'm looking
to Optus as the saviour here.

-  Customer Service ... Instead of 'pissing' clients off for not paying
their bills by cutting their phone service and reinstating afterwards, why
not charge interest for late payments like Bell Canada does. This will only
add a conservative $50M in revenue per year. 

+  Good satelite technology. why not use it more...  

-  Telecom billing 


>              ______________________________________________________________
Regards,      | BHP Information Technology | eMAIL:
-------       | PO Box 216                 |  doucas@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au 
              | Hamilton, NSW              | FAX:                PHONE:  
the Duke..    | Australia 2303             |  +(63) 49 40 2165 / ..40 2135 

   
                 >> A Fool With A Tool Is Still A Fool ! << 
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: peter@manwel.trl.OZ.AU (Peter Richardson)
Subject: Re: Optus/Telecom.  ( Ovs Comparisons..)
Reply-To: p.richardson@trl.oz.au
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 03:33:55 GMT

In article <doucas-221292160431@134.18.16.125>, doucas@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au (Chris Doucas) writes:
|> -  Telecom equipment based largely on Philips is outdated. I'm used to
|> Nortel which Optus is using.

Which equipment are you referring to? I presume you mean switching
equipment. Telecom primarily uses 3 vendors' switches - Ericsson,
Alcatel, and Nortel. Optus uses only Nortel. In what way is the
"Phillips" equipment outdated? :-) Or more importantly, what service
features/quality etc are not being provided by the Telecom equipment
that the Optus equipment is providing?

---
Peter Richardson 		      Internet: p.richardson@trl.oz.au
Telecom Research Laboratories 	         Phone: +61 3 253-6342 
                                           Fax: +61 3 253-6362
					 Snail: GPO Box 249, Clayton, 3168
                                                Victoria, Australia