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From: jimmys@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Subject: Re:  Rice Cooker (was Re: Low Fat Lunch Ideas?)
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
Reply-To: jimmys@ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 28 Jan 93 05:25:57 GMT

In article <1k7d50INNr1u@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> hahn@het.brown.edu writes:
>   Where can I get a rice cooker?  (Will a salesperson know what
>   I mean if I ask for one

Most Asian Supermarkets should carry rice cookers, and also visit your
local "Asian"Towns, like ChinaTown, KoreaTown, etc.

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From: omitchel@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ocie Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
Subject: Re: Canola
Keywords: Vitamin K
Date: 27 Jan 93 09:57:53 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711

In article <1993Jan26.211802.17141@kth.se> d85-hga@dront.nada.kth.se (Hillevi Gavel) writes:
>My mother has recently suffered from a blood-clot, and has to avoid
>vitamin K (that helps coagulation). The trouble has been to find out
>what things contain this vitamin. Anyway, in an american paper she has
>found that canola has an extremely high level of vitamin K. 
>
>Question: What is canola made of? I know on which shelf it could be
>found at QFC in Seattle, but I did never check what it was made from.
>Can anyone enlighten us? 

Canola oil is made from the rape seed.  I remember someone telling me about 
this and the fact that wild rape seed is poisonous!  This is why canola oil
is produced from a special strain of rape seed which does not produce the 
poison.

>I'll post some delicious recepie in excange, but not tonight, as I'm
>to sleepy to manage translation.
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>
>
>
>-- 
>Hillevi Gavel		"The child may not be subject to corporal punishment 
>Stockholm		or other abusive treatment" 
>Sweden			-- Swedish law
From: jones@ccimp.csh.rit.edu (Sunkist)
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
Subject: Re: "MANLY" food ***
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:17:23 GMT
Organization: Computer Science House @ RIT, Rochester, NY.

In article <1jporjINNq85@cbl.umd.edu> tara@starburst.umd.edu (Tara McDermott) writes:
>sfjr@wam.umd.edu (Steve Russell) writes:
>
>>I remember reading some feminst book awhile back stating your opinions
>>and going deeper comparing our "meat culture" to the oppression of women.
>
>The book is called _The Sexual Politics of Meat_ by Carol Adams.  One
>interesting fact - 3 out of every 4 vegetarians are women.  
>

I find the fact that 3 of 4 Veggies being female amuses me -- all of the veggies
that i know are male. (The only female veggie that i know [my sister] has 
quit as of a little while ago...) 

Even when i was in college, i only knew male veggies...:)

Must be me.

...jones
From: ded@kps.se (David Edwards /DP)
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
Subject: Re: "MANLY" food ***
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:44:42 GMT
Organization: Kuwait Petroleum, Stockholm, Sweden

In article <1993Jan25.012312.352@muddcs.claremont.edu> omitchel@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ocie Mitchell) writes:
>
>One was I believe in reference to the pork comercials saying "Lard, Today's
>food for today's lifestyle" or something to that effect.  There was also the
>comercial for the chicken restauraunt where a cartoon chicken is beheaded
>and then narates a pictorial essay on how chcken is prepared (in all it's
>gut-spilling splendor).  There was a catle drive song that didn't pull any
>punches, except for the fact that they mentioned stunning the cattle, which
>is not always done.  And last but not least, the Chicago bears superfans who
>exchange lines like "I had two heart attacks last week my friend".  All in
>all, SNL's attitudes towards meat range from the silly to the disturbing.

Monty Python, too:

"This is a vegetarian restaurant only, we serve no animal flesh of any
kind.  We're not only proud of that, we're smug about it."

or

"We use choicest juicy chunks of fresh
Cornish ram's bladder, emptied, steamed,
flavoured with sesame seeds whipped into a
fondue and garnished with lark's vomit."
 
David Edwards
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From: zxmkr08@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Cornelius Krasel)
Subject: Re: Toxic water was Re: "The miracle of fasting" by Paul C. Bragg
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:46:00 GMT

In <1993Jan23.181327.29603@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> bobp@msi.com (Bob Pitha) writes:

>Elizabeth Schwartz (betsys@cs.umb.edu) wrote:
>: In article <1993Jan20.201308.21805@pixel.kodak.com> young@clpd.kodak.com (Rich Young) writes:
>: >>  I'm not sure what "de-ionized" water would be, exactly. I guess the
>: >>legend is that you get an ion imbalance :-) I'm not a physicist but I

>: >"De-ionized" water is essentially the same as "distilled" water.
>: >It is water which has no impurities dissolved in it (the dissolved
>: >impurities form ions while in solution, hence the terminology).

>: Ah, thanks, makes sense! This does not sound like a life-threatening
>: substance. I'd imagine that we would still get more than our minimum
>: daily requirement for impurities from other substances :-)  :-(

> The version of this legend that I heard claimed that the reason heavily
>purified water was dangerous is that it caused the cells that line the
>stomach to rupture becuase of the imbalance in concentrations of dissolved
>substances.  It's true that osmotic pressure can cause cells to rupture,
>but I doubt drinking purified water would cause such an imbalance in your
>stomach that it would be dangerous.

As far as I know, the cells of the stomach are quite resistant against
distilled (or deionized) water since they are covered by a layer of
mucus which protects them against their environment (e.g. the acid of
the stomach, which would otherwise harm them). This protective layer
is not existent in your intestine, though, because the cells of your
brush border must come into direct contact with the nutrients you
have consumed. Since the concentration of salts in the cells is higher
than in your intestine lumen when you have consumed great amounts of
distilled water (a teaspoonful will certainly not harm), water will
go into your cells because of osmotic, causing them to swell and maybe
to rupture. The original poster recommended drinking distilled water
during a "water fast" which seems that one consumes water only,
nothing else. This seems potentially dangerous to me.

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Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
From: Janet_Wilson@mindlink.bc.ca (Janet Wilson)
Subject: Hommous
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:04:14 GMT

Ya gotta add cumin!!!
From: morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay)
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
Subject: That recipe with 30 cloves of garlic in it
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:59:39 GMT
Reply-To: morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

Apologies to the original poster - I have lost her name.

I tried this recipe last night - 3 bulbs/30 clives garlic roasted
at 350/Gas Mark 4 for an hour ( I left it a bit more)

I My cloves were all like smelly lumps of coal, which I'm sure was not
the intent. I *did* separate all the cloves before baking them - was
this my mistake??


cheers

M

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Ye hypocrites! are these your pranks? To murder men and give God thanks?
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From: karpen@nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil (Judy Karpen)
Subject: Re: Meat replacements
Followup-To: rec.food.veg
Organization: NRL
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:31:33 GMT

The orig. poster was looking for chicken substitutes, i think.
The standard chinese approach is to use gluten (= seitan), which is
available in cans in Chinese groceries (usually called something useful
like mock chicken or braised gluten), or in cans from Worthington foods,
Loma Linda, & similar companies (check your local 7th day adventist church,
maybe they can tell you where they get their stuff or even sell you some),
or in health food stores & coops you can get mixes to make seitan and
refrigerated, ready-made seitan.  Or use the instructions posted a while
ago on making seitan from scratch (only whole wheat flour & water needed,
which can be found just about anywhere).
Chinese mock duck also uses tofu skin, but that's even more esoteric (&
hard to find) than gluten, and probably not the texture you're looking for.
Try the gluten, if you can find one of the above sources; hope you like it!

Judy Karpen                "pushing back the frontiers of science"
karpen@nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil  Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC USA
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
From: rcass@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Re: Can Reason And Information Stop Meat Eating
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:21:32 GMT

> IN his posting Steve asks:
> 
> 
> 	ARE REASON/INFORMATIVE EXPERIENCES ALONE SUFFICENT TO STOP
> 	MEAT EATING OR DOES SOMEONE HAVE TO BE IN THE RIGHT PLACE
> 	AT THE RIGHT TIME TO MAKE THE SWITHC?

	I would have to say that situation was important in my decision. I 
was living very poorly on a meat diet and found it  expensive and lacking. 
I felt that a vegetarian diet would free up some cash. I was wary at first 
and didn't cook that well but slowly got the hang. Also I find that it is 
difficult to refuse meat when it is offered or prepared for you. So I found 
that being in a situation of control over your consumption and preparation 
is paramount to make that first step. A specific informational incident did 
not push me over the edge, but I got constant prodding and good-natured 
shaming from a particular friend. I hope this helps illuminate the process 
for taking the step.

						Just my 2cents
							Rob 
> 
>
From: garyn@hprpcd.rose.hp.com (Gary Nichols)
Subject: Re: Soy Milk
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:13:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: HP - Systems Technology Division
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.2 PL7]

John Spence (jspence@cmptrc.lonestar.org) wrote:
: I've been drinking soy milk for the last few weeks and have enjoyed the
: different taste. What I don't enjoy is the cost. At a 1.89 a quart, the
: price is dear. I have found that dry mix cost just over a dollar, but it
: just doesn't taste a good. I've tried adding vanilla and almond
: flavorings as well as rice bran and honey to enhance the flavor with
: good to poor results. It seems a matter of taste again.
: 
You could try making your own. I've made tofu a several times and always
save some of the soy milk extracted from the beans for drinking. I don't have
the recipe in my brain, but you basically:
1) soak the beans overnight in some amount of cold water (they need to stay 
   covered - even after swelling), then 
2) grind the beans and the water in a blender, then
3) cook the whole mess for a while (heat, stirring to a simmer, continue to
   stir and simmer for 10 minutes or so - I don't remember how long), then 
4) strain through cheesecloth to remove the pieces of beans (This stuff is
   called Okara.  Don't throw it out, it is quite good stir fried with
   vegetables. My wife has me make tofu just so we can get the okara. I'll
   post a recipe if I remember. You have to toast the okara for a while in
   a cast iron or some other non-stick frying pan before adding the
   veggies, soy sauce, etc.....), then 
5) you have soy milk. The soy milk can be thinned to whatever concentration
   you like with water...
: Does anyone have recipes for making dry soy milk mix taste better? I'm
: trying to reduce the fat content to under 1%.
Hmmmm, soy beans are fatty things, but I guess there's so much water in soy
milk that it's probably under 1%...... I don't know.
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:                but because they feel the feel the heat." Anon.

garyn@hprpcd.rose.hp.com

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From: oldman@coos.dartmouth.edu (Prakash Das)
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg,misc.health.alternative,sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: "The miracle of fasting" by Paul C. Bragg
Date: 26 Jan 93 06:50:47 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <BETSYS.93Jan25140013@ra.cs.umb.edu> betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) writes:
>
>I'd like to see anyone here come up with ANY reference, scientific,
>popular, or even tabloid, that claims that H2O is toxic. The human
>body is something over 80% water. Distilled water is water with some
>of the heavier impurities removed.
>
>  **  WATER IS NOT TOXIC. **
>

WRONG.
Drinking a very large quantity of water is deadly in that it can rapidly
lead to death. I was just going through "The Wellness Encyclopedia"
(published by the University of California, Berkeley) the other
day, and it had a section on the question whether eight glasses 
of water IS the appropriate quantity to drink everyday. (The answer,
btw, is yes, but it doesn't have to be water, any liquid is fine).
The reason is, water dilutes the electrolytes in the body, and when 
the quantity of water in the system is great, things are diluted
to such an extent that it interferes with the functioning of cells
and so on. First symptoms include dizziness, light-headedness. I
would think many other sources also mention it.

So, in short, water IS toxic (deadly) in LARGE quantities!

-Prakash Das
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Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
From: Janet_Wilson@mindlink.bc.ca (Janet Wilson)
Subject: Re: pregnancy
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:55:36 GMT

Your nutritionist is dead wrong.
You can be pregnant, lactating, you name it, and be a vegetarian as long as
you take care to get vitamin B12 (in the case of strict vegans, who do not
eat dairy or egg products).
Download the FAQ file for this group, or read some books on becoming
vegetarian. And maybe check on what her definition of Vegetarian is...it is a
loose term which many people use to mean different things.
From: guest@voyager3.sdsu.edu (Guest User)
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
Subject: "MANLY" food ***
Date: 20 Jan 1993 03:42:52 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
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Is beef a 'Manly' diet ? One thing I notice from this newsgroup and my
personal experience, more women are switching to vegetarian diet than
men. Is it the conditioning of the western society that it is masculine
to eat meat in general and red meat in particular ? I see that in
advertisements. Men eat beef and other red meat while women are 
portrayed as eating chicken and salad. I see a strong gender bias
in this meat eating society. I find men associate beef eating with
power and strength and hence a macho thing to do. I don;t blame them
from a young age they are exposed to the doctrines of the beef
board with slogans like 'Beef gives strength' and garbage like that.
Beliefs handed down for generations are hard to shake off. 
Women on the other hand seems to be on the average, more 
sensible and practical. Many men seems to have been brainwashed
into associating meat with being macho. Though fortunately, lots
of men are seeing the light now.

S
From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
Subject: Re: Wooden cutting boards - dangerous?
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:35:52 GMT
	<altar.727421979@sfu.ca> <C13970.6HB@news2.cis.umn.edu>
	<93020.115554CXS3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

In article <93020.115554CXS3@psuvm.psu.edu> CXS3@psuvm.psu.edu (Cheryl Sharpe) writes:

>I have a book on "germs" from the USDA which recommends that you wash off
>wooden cutting boards, also countertops with chlorine bleach to "kill the
>germs."

  For carnivores, wooden cutting boards can be VERY dangerous because so
much of the chicken in this country contains salmonella, and because
meat in general has a high bacteria content. While these bacteria are
destroyed by cooking, the danger is that meat juices will get onto raw
vegetables...not at all hard to do if you cut the meat and the lettuce
on the same board. (it's true of any board, not just wood.)

  This is also true of eggs, so ovo-lacto veggies should be careful.

  Since wood is porous, it can absorb all sorts of material. A
vegetarian who was VERY sloppy with his or her cutting board could
start a bacteria farm, but I don't think that it is the serious danger
that it is with chicken and salmonella. 
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From: altar@beaufort.sfu.ca (Ted Wayn Altar)
Subject: Re: Meat replacements
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:12:03 GMT

Janet_Wilson@mindlink.bc.ca (Janet Wilson) writes:

>Hi, what is the address of that place?
>Canada is not terribly advanced in meat replacement products?

Hmm, do we have here an example of that characteristic 
Canadian attitude of self-deprecation?    ;-(

Frankly, I think one is better off simply forgetting about
those old meat dishes and start eating new vegetarian
dishes, thereby allowing one's tastes to develop from there
--  which they assuredly will.

In fact, much to my own surprise, the taste of meat is no
has any appeal whatsoever for me.  It is actually quite
unappetizing.

Still, I guess there is a place for transition foods.  If
the flavour and texture of meat is still with you, there are
now plenty of non-meat "meats", even some "made in Canada"!

For instance, there is something called LUMEN MEATLESS MEATS
and CAJUN JERKY.    The company claims that "it is superor
in taste and texture to other meat `analogs', and unlike TVP
and other `soy products', it contains no flatugenic
compounds".  I don't know if that means they use something
like gluten instead of TVP.  Anyway, you can write to the
following address for a brochure on their products and a
summary of a study conducted at the University of Toronto on
how even this meat substitutes reduces cholesterol and
triglyercide levels.

    Purity Life
    100 Elgin St.
    Acton, Ontario
    Canada   L7J 2W1
    (519) 853-3511

Lumen comes in a variety of flavours: beef fillet, ground
beef, chicken fillet, Italiian sausage, yeriyaki beef, and
Canadian bacon!  Their mottos is "Our meats are so real some
vegetarians won't eat them".  I can believe it.

                                         ted
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
From: michael@resonex.com (Michael Bryan)
Subject: Vegetarian Food in Fremont, CA area (southeast SF Bay)
Organization: Resonex Inc., Fremont CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:08:18 GMT


Does anybody know of any restaurants, sandwich shops, etc with decent
vegetarian offerings in the Fremont, California area?  My company has
just moved to Fremont, near Warm Springs and Mission.  I know Fremont
is fairly big, so places near this area would be preferred.

My initial searches for acceptable lunch-time places have turned up a
Togo's and a Taco Bell.  (And the latter is just barely acceptable.)
The two sandwich shops and two chinese places I found had no
vegetarian meals.  And of course, I didn't even consider the
various burger joints, KFC, Denny's etc.

Pointers to Mediterranean food and pasta places would be especially
appreciated.

-- 
Michael Bryan     michael@resonex.com
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From: Christine_Code@mindlink.bc.ca (Christine Code)
Subject: REQUEST: black bean sauce
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:26:45 GMT

Hi there!

A vegetarian restaurant here in Vancouver serves a dish I love - Mushrooms in
Black Bean Sauce.  It's superb!  Now the mushroom part I can figure out, but
I need a recipe for black bean sauce.

Please post if you've got one!

Thanks.  :)

--

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Vancouver, B.C, CANADA         *   Grows tubby without exercise."
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From: tms@cs.umd.edu (Tom Swiss (not Swift, not Suiss, Swiss!))
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg,misc.health.alternative,sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: "The miracle of fasting" by Paul C. Bragg
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:47:40 GMT
Followup-To: rec.food.veg
Organization: The Reality Liberation Front (pixels to the people!)

oldman@coos.dartmouth.edu (Prakash Das) writes:
>Drinking a very large quantity of water is deadly in that it can rapidly
>lead to death. I was just going through "The Wellness Encyclopedia"
>(published by the University of California, Berkeley) the other
>day, and it had a section on the question whether eight glasses 
>of water IS the appropriate quantity to drink everyday. (The answer,
>btw, is yes, but it doesn't have to be water, any liquid is fine).
                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     Mercury? Ammonia? Bleach? B->

     Seriously, though, not all beverages are created equal. Eight
glasses of coffee or tea or beer - or even Coca-Cola - a day is _not_
a good idea.  Water, many herb teas, and juices are good.

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From: levin@world.std.com (Levin F Magruder)
Subject: Anyone getting through to granola?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:56:16 GMT

I got one file from them and haven't been able to get through 
since.  I'm ftping 128.173.5.164 . . . I've been trying everyday
for about the last 5 days.

The vegan file has some good stuff in it, esp. Indian recipes.
There's some real weird stuff, too.  (Like canned beans with
canned fruit.)


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