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From: dnaraghi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dara Naraghi)
Subject: Request: Fantasy Titles
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:39:44 GMT

	Hi.  I was wondering if all you wonderful net.land people
could help me out.  I'm a big fan of fantasy (sword & sorcery),
however there are not too many comic books of that genre around.
I'd like to compile a list of all fantasy titles, past and present.
	Post your list either to this newsgroup, or e-mail them to
me (which is probably a better idea because I'm not sure how many
others will be interested in this topic).  I'm more interested in
the really obscure titles (small independents) as I already own or
know about the more well-known titles.  In any case, all suggestions
are welcome.  (feel free to include short stories from anthologies
like DHP, or even titles that are a mix of fantasy and science fiction)

	Here's a partial listing of the bigger titles I know about:

	All DC/TSR titles (AD&D, Dragonlance, etc.)
	All R.A.C titles (Thundermace, etc.)
	All Adventure titles (Adventurers, Ninja Elite, etc.)
	All Aircel titles (Dragonring, Warlock 5, etc.)
	The Realm (Arrow/Caliber)
	(plus a buch of smaller indies)

	Thanks in advance for your help.

	
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From: vanyel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Williams)
Subject: Re: Changes in the Atom (was re:JSA #7)
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:36:47 GMT

tyg@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Tom Galloway) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.005151.10063@ac.dal.ca> ibanez@ac.dal.ca writes:
>>1.When did the Atom get this 'atomic punch' or whatever power? He didn't have
>>it in All Star Squadron when I was reading it. Did this happen in the later
>>issues?
>Yes and no. Circa 1946, Atom suddenly changed his costume and started 
>exhibiting super-strength. Roy Thomas retconned an explanation for this
>in All-Star Squadron by having Atom exposed to Cyclotron's radiation.
>Presumably the radiation led to the super-strength four years later,
>and Atom changed his costume to resemble Cyclotron's in appreciation.
>Note that Cyclotron was a Thomas created character.

According to _Infinity, Inc_, the Atom got his atomic strength in 1948.


>>2. When did he become a physicist? I always thought he was just an average
>>joe who trained hard to become, essentially, another version of Wildcat.
>He started his career as the Atom as a college student, and I don't know
>if the Golden Age stories specified a major or not. However, probably
>for parity with the Ray Palmer physicist Atom, in the team-ups with Ray
>it was established that he was a physicist.

According to _Who's Who_ v1 #1, Al Pratt is a physicist.  A comment made by
Terri Rothstein (Cyclotron's daughter and the Atom's god-daughter) in
_Infinity, Inc_ #8 or so indicated that Al has always had more of an
interest in bodybuilding than in physics.

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From: tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: Marvel Implosion Imminent? (was: Re: Marvel copies DC... again)
Organization: Interleaf
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:35:38 GMT

In article <16B4DCEEE.YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:
>     The way I understand it, when what's-his-name bought out Marvel to
>start it as a publicly held company, it was done as a highly leveraged
>buy out, which means Marvel may be loaded up with debt; furthermore,

Except for one little detail...Marvel stock which first sold at $16 closed
yesterday at about $100 (ignore the 25 you'll see if you look up the
stock market quotes; the stock's had two 2 for 1 splits so 4 shares of
the stock now equals one original share). Marvel's "value" as a company
has gone up over six times since the stock offering. A large amount from
the stock offering went back to Perelman and associates, and I'd be
rather surprised if Marvel's debt hasn't been substantially reduced
by now via stock. Personally I think the stock is way overvalued, 
particularly since my guess is that a lot of the most recent run-up was
due to Marvel's jump in sales due to reporting on a year with X-Force
and X-Men #1 sales.

"As long as the unread stack stays at under 100 books it can't be considered
stockpiling." --Miriam Nadel
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
From: ddl1542@hertz.njit.edu (Derek Lee!)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Why Vertigo? Was: Marvel copies DC... again
Date: 7 Jan 93 03:41:43 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1993Jan6.145905.13727@schbbs.mot.com> Chagnon_A@msm.cdx.mot.com (Andrew Chagnon) writes:
>
>Given the discussion that last month Sandman was ranked #75 in sales and
>Hellblazer wasn't in the top 100, why is DC creating the Vertigo line?
>
>There doesn't seem to be a sound business reason to do it from my viewpoint.
>Are there a large number of 'mature audience' readers out there that DC is
>tapping into, or are they hoping to create a new market of Vertigo readers?
>
>Judging from the sales stats, it seems that market does not exist, and DC is
>hoping to create one. 
>
>Any thoughts?

Well, Sandman and Hellblazer have a dedicated following, which, while maybe 
not enough to score points on sales charts, is composed of the most diverse
array of readers around.  The reason being, is that Sandman and the other
mature audience titles are competing with all of the other comics out there
in comic book land, many of which are not geared to the same audience.  I 
mean, how many preteens out there are going to pass up Spider Man or their
favorite X-title in favor of buying something which really isn't targetted
for them?  Gaiman is quite possibly *the* best writer in the biz today, and
Sandman ranks as really good literature most times.  The Vertigo line is an
attempt to give the Sandman/Hellblazer/Shade fans even more of the style
that they like.  Sure, grouped into the rest of the "superhero" comics, 
the mature audience comics might not do so well in sales, but they sure make
for better reading and brain food.
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From: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
Subject: Re: Sandman Speculations: The Villain Unmasked?
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:31:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.160412.16630@news.nd.edu>, mkelly@happy.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly) writes:
> 
>  teo33398@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Doctor Zero) writes:
> 
> |> 
> |> 	In addition, does anyone have a clue about which god or goddess that
> |> Etain of the Second look could have been?  And also in the latest issue, Lucien
> |> is still Much taller than Dream.  Mean something?  No doubt.
> 
> As I and others have said, Lucien *has* to be taller than Dream to fulfill his
> function. He's the Librarian because he's the only one who can reach the top
> shelf.

I hadn't noticed until my wife pointed it out, but in the latest issue, Mervyn
pastes up walpaper of a room of books in the library, and Dream walks into the
room out of that wall.  Cute.  Where did/does that room connect to, then?

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Re: Bill & Ted's Excellent Comic (was Da Big Slurp)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:34:31 GMT

In article <+4zrs6#@lynx.unm.edu>, lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
> maguire@zappa.jpl.nasa.gov (Kevin Maguire) writes:
> > I can't comment on whether or not he got the Santos references right,  
> > since I don't have any idea who or what Santos is.  Help!
> 
> It's not "Santos", it's *Santo*.  The silver-masked One True God of Mexican 
> Wrestling.

Actually, he's called "El Santo" ("The Saint"), not just "Santo".

> I'm not sure I'd trust Dan's assertion that Dorkin gets "gets all
> his Santos [sic] references wrong", since Dan doesn't even know how the 
> guy spelled his name . . .

I'll let you know as soon as I make some raids into the local quarter bin.
(El Santo references in a Marvel book... this I've GOT to see...)
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Bill & Ted's Excellent Comic (was Da Big Slurp)
Date: 7 Jan 93 23:01:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team

dan@spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter) writes:

> I'm *really* tired of Evan Dorkin.  His new music column (I don't even 
> know where it appears) with Kyle Baker is typical music fanboy (yes they 
> exist there too) drivel.  I find his hipper-than-thou attitude tedious,  
> his tastes boring, his insights shallow and his humor non-existent.

"Hipper-than-thou attitude?"  Dorkin is so insecure that it's sometimes 
hard to tell whether he even has an *ego*, let alone an ego *problem*.
Does he owe you money or something?

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
From: mab@wdl39.wdl.loral.com (Mark A Biggar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Wither IRONWOOD?
Date: 6 Jan 93 00:18:41 GMT
Organization: Loral Western Development Labs

In article <1993Jan4.205104.27925@zip.eecs.umich.edu> maser@engin.umich.edu (Steven Michael Maser) writes:
>    Anyone seen hide nor hair of IRONWOOD in a while?  Last issue I
>saw was #8 waay back in April or so.  
>    I remember my comic shop getting a collected volume of the first
>half of the series, but nothing else since.
>    Did Willingham piss somebody off?

The rumor I heard (from the usual unreliable source a comic store clerk) is
that Willingham had a falling out with the Eros(fantagraphics) people over
content (too much plot, not enough sex :-)) and will now be self publishing
with distribution by mail subscription only.  I personally won't believe it
until I see it in CBG.

--
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From: pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Vertigo Bomb
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:54:22 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

This really pains me to see the lack of artistic talent that DC puts on their
'mature' titles.  It's hard to judge the writing on these books with just a 2
page preview, but I just could not believe how bad the artwork was on
Sebastian O, Black Orchid (Jill Thompson sucks, Sandman Fanboys), and Kid
Eternity.  This is not something new for DC.  Hellblazer and Swamp Thing has
suffered with subpar artists for a long time.

I predict that the above mentioned Vertigo titles will be cancelled within a
year.

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From: Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Was I reading Armageddon 2001 or Future Imperfect?
Date: Fri,  8 Jan 93 06:29:49 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Oh yes, "Future Imperfect" is just like "Armageddon."  And "MacBeth" and
"Aladdin" are both about power hungry guys, so they're interchangeable, too.

Geez.

First off, the plot for "FI #1" was written several *years* ago, well before
DC launched that misbegotten storyline.  Second, I tend to think that by
the end of the two-parter, you will be absolutely no resemblance between
the two at all...although, frankly, I see none now.

PAD
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Death Miniseries and Sandman Mystery Theatre ... Questions ...
Date: 4 Jan 93 13:55:47
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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In-reply-to: firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU's message of 4 Jan 93 18:44:17 GMT

>>>>> On 4 Jan 93 18:44:17 GMT, firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith) said:


firestar> What exactly is Sandman Mystery Theatre, and how does it
firestar> differ from Sandman?  When does it come out?

This series is based on the old JSA Sandman.

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From: balbes@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Batman-Catwoman marriage (was Sandman: Lucien's Library)
Date: 6 Jan 93 10:46:26 EST
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics

In article <C0F23K.Dp3@world.std.com>, jspencer@world.std.com (Jeffrey C Spencer) writes:
>   The marriage of Bruce Wayne and Selena Kyle

This was done in one of the last issues of Brave and the Bold.  Like
around issue 198 or so.  It's one of the most powerful Batman
stories to date.  (It's the Earth 2 Batman and Catwoman though.)

Mark Balbes
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From: scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Lucien's Library
Organization: Inland Sea
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 00:13:56 GMT

sasha@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (David A. Tumarkin) writes:

>Neil Gaiman's "Superman Goes To Hell" Story

Wasn't this supposed to be titled "667: Neighbor of the Beast"?
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From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Alternate timelines in DC?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 03:30:46 GMT

Blabbing about DKN as not being in continuity (it isn't an alternate
timeline, like I said earlier) brought something to mind.

I thought the whole thing with CRISIS was to eliminate alternate Earths.
One of the side effects, as chronicled in HISTORY OF THE DC UNIVERSE
mini-series, was that there was one "concrete" timeline. 20th century
Earth leads to Booster Gold's 25th century which leads to LEGION's 30th
century, which leads to Abra Kadabra's 50th(?) century.

So how can they be exploring alternate futures in ARMAGEDDON 2001? When
Waverider examines the futures of the heroes, trying to find Monarch, he
should have been able to find Hawk pretty easily. I mean, even though
Monarch came back to 1991 to fulfill his own creation, that should have
been reflected in Hawk's future. (As it was, the HAWK AND DOVE annual was
the only one I read that actually showed the heroes existing in Monarch's
timeline.)

Doesn't that put the Linear Men out of a job? ;D

Jay (=
From: mapkjp@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk (Keith John Playford)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Why Vertigo?
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:34:06 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, dan@spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter) writes:
>Unless Vertigo is offering creator-ownership  (which I doubt,
>considering Swamp Thing is one of the titles, and that's been a real
>cash cow for DC lately everywhere but in comics) then it can only
>provide the illusion of change.  [...]

Judging by the copyright notice inside the Vertigo preview, the new
characters are, in fact, creator-owned.  

-- Keith --
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From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Batman kills Superman? NOT! (was SUPERMAN RETURNS AS 4-SOME)
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 03:21:39 GMT

Well, you have the right idea, just the wrong story. In DARK KNIGHT
RETURNS, it is Batman who dies, not Superman. (And in actuality, his death
was faked. Bruce Wayne survived to lead the gangs into the wilderness, or
a bunch of caves, or something.) It is in SUPERMAN ANNUAL #3, the
ARMAGEDDON 2001 crossover. In that, Batman uses the Kryptonite the
Superman trusted him with to kill Superman after to slowly goes mad. It
all stems with a rabid desire to rid the world of nuclear weapons, and
ends with a scene--which I will admit is quite similar to Miller's
DKN--where Batman confronts Superman. Go find an issues; they can't be
_that_ hard to find.

As for DARK KNIGHT RETURNS, it ain't continuity; it was "redefined" as
alternate timeline when, in the DEATH IN THE FAMILY story, Jason Tood
died. In DKN, Bruce Wayne retired when Jason died. (Besides, Reagan's
still president in DKN!) The best description of DKN is as the ultimate
"Elseworlds" storyline.

Jay (=
From: levin6706@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Action Comics 686 (clones)
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:16:38 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <SS.93Jan11082608@wpi.WPI.EDU>, ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:
> 	<SS.93Jan8194545@wpi.WPI.EDU> <C0KG3G.4Mo@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
> 	<1993Jan9.135258.9719@iscsvax.uni.edu>
> Distribution: usa
> Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
> Lines: 14
> NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
> In-reply-to: levin6706@iscsvax.uni.edu's message of 9 Jan 93 13:52:58 -0600
> 
> 
> levin6706> But, would the boys at Cadmus think of this?  Actually,
> levin6706> would the WRITERS think of this.  My answer: probably not.
> levin6706> Of course, the way it is now, I also say who cares?  It's a
> levin6706> rotten comic.
> 
> The Superman titles are not rotten comics. Other that all this death
> stuff, it's an exellent comic. The Funeral for a Friend story line is
> being done, infinately better than the actual death itself. Do you
> even read the titles? Or did you jump on the Superman bandwagon for
> his death? If so, this is not the story to judge the titles by...


Actually, my friend, I have a complete collection of the Superman titles 
starting from Byrne's MAN OF STEEL, SUPERMAN, and ACTION, and Wolfman's 
ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN, all the way through the Stern, Ordway, Perez, and 
Jurgens runs on the aforementioned titles.  I dropped the book right before 
the return of Terra Man because I felt that at this point in time, the book 
was becoming ludicrous and just plain stupid.  
I really loved Ordway's storytelling, and I think he had the absolute best run 
of all the books.  But, after the EXILE IN SPACE arc, the title went down hill 
fast with the number of stupid stories that were being introduced (i.e.  Supes 
vs. Flash, the return of Red K, death of Luthor, etc.). 
I still read my friend'ss copies, out of simple curiosity and concern for the 
characters.  But I am greatly saddened and disappointed with what I see.  
There is a tremendous loss of greatness in the book and it isn't just the big 
guy himself.  The book has seen better days, and if you don't recognize that 
the current stuff is crap, then open your eyes.
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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David R. Henry)
Subject: Re: Request: Fantasy Titles
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 07:39:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

There's Bill Willingham's Ironwood, one of the few reasons (along with
Birdland) to occassionally trust Eros Comics.

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From: galletti@husc8.harvard.edu (Arturo Galletti)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Action Comics 686 (clones)
Date: 12 Jan 93 06:37:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan12.013800.19211
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1isvvtINNe28@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> palmesap@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Allan P Palmes) writes:
>In article <11JAN199317431550@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>  
>sewon@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (WAYNE WONG) writes:
>> In article <C0pCH5.1BG@news.ucs.mun.ca>, cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig  
>Welsh  ) writes...
>> > 
>> >In case people missed my post on the weekend, Superman WILL NOT be
>> >coming back as a clone in any form. This was reported on CNN on the
>> >weekend with the source being an editor at DC comics. He definately  
>will
>> >not becoming back as four clones, or clones in any way, shape, form, or
>> >manner. The DC spokesperson wanted to set the record straight because  
>of
>> >the wild specualtion on his return.
>> 
>> I don't have all of the details, but the latest Comic Buyer's Guide 
>> (#1000?) had an interview with one of the Superman writers (Jurgens?).   
>The 
>> writer commented that the creators of the four Superman books would not  
>be 
>> jobless after Funeral For a Friend.  Rather, the creative teams will  
>work 
>> on four new series, each featuring a *new* hero.  He points out that the 
>> heroes are not the ones to be featured in Legacy of Superman #1  
>(waverider, 
>> and a few others I don't recall).  In response to questions about the  
>four 
>> new characters, the writer responded:
>> 
>>  "Something old, something new.  Something borrowed, something BLUE."
>> 
>> Hmmm....  The "four clones" theory would fit.  
>> 
>> The writer was more specific, but my recollection of the details are a 
>> little fuzzy since I only skimmed the interview.  If there's interest, I 
>> could dig it up.
>> 
>Well, Dig it up!
>
>>  - Wayne.
>>   
>=========================================================================
>>     W     A     Y     N     E     .     A     .     W     O     N     G
>>   
>=========================================================================
>>                                                  
>SEWON@LIMS01.LERC.NASA.GOV
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From: jimh@pacdata.uucp (Jim Harkins)
Subject: Re: Comic Cover GIF's
Organization: Pacific Data Products
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:00:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.184753.17306@gca.com> faill@gca.com (Peter Faill) writes:
>1st Question:  Do people enjoy seeing these covers? <GIFs>

Makes no difference.  Some admins don't want GIFs because of their size.  It's
a matter of phone time (some sites are 2400 baud) and disk space.  I've got a
fast modem that does it's thing at 2 AM, but fill up my disk and I bombard
your sysadmin with nastygrams.

jim

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