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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:48:06 PDT
From:         s mandell <pwiebe@ECST.CSUCHICO.EDU>
Subject:      First Internet Hunt !!!
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Aw G Graham, but that would take all the fun(?) out of it!

S
(who does not have much better things to do with her time,
 but isn't going to play the silly game anyway)
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:59:56 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Aspiration
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> >> (assuming that a general statement can be made). I used to think that
> >> these sounds were aspirated when they were the first consonants in a
> >> word, e.g. "call", "part" etc. But now I think it's more complicated.
> >
> >That's the general rule (except substitute syllable for word).
>
> I didn't understand that. The first consonant in a syllable? The t in
> the middle of bottom or total is definitely not aspirated. There must
> be an accent on it. Probably you meant "accented syllable".

Not many English speakers (or at least speakers of American English) would
have /t/ in the middle of "bottom" or "total."  They'd have a flap.  In
the case of "total," some would also not have the second vowel -- they'd
have a syllabic /l/.

> I guess I don't have trained ears, because I never heard an aspiration in
> spin. In any case do you aspirate either of the two in "impecunious"? Do
> you aspirate the /k/ in there? This is the kind of word which baffles me
> most.

Yes, I aspirate both the /p/ and the /k/ in "impecunious."

> PS    It's going to be pretty hard to find morphemes which are not
> separated as syllables. People bring the knowledge of morphemes to bear
> on the separation into syllables. "Trained ear" and "reindeer" for
> instance. I'd expect the syllable boundary to be exactly the same, but
> these people insist on shifting the d to the other side (when asked). All
> in all this syllable business is pretty mysterious too.

I'm not sure what you're saying.  Morphemes not separated as syllables??
What about "dogs"?  Two morphemes, one syllable.  The difference between
"trained ear" and "reindeer" (in addition to the beginning) would usually
show up in the juncture.  The /d/ in the latter would be a little bit
longer than the /d/ in the former since consonants in initial position
are usually longer (very slightly longer).  Internal open juncture *is*,
however, pretty hazy sometimes.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 11:16:28 MST
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: brushes
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On Thu, 3 Sep 1992 03:56:33 GMT Ruth M. Hanschka said:
>I usually use hot wax, and no brush.  It doesn't feel anything like a close
>shave...not that either of you would know much about one of those....

Brush referred to what was left....not a part of the shaving process....
do I need to draw you a picture?  Imagine not....   but I DO know alot about
close shaves....just not on MY body....

dan
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 11:55:21 CDT
From:         Tushar Samant <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Poets and kissing ass

>... no way would she be dumb enough to write a poem with all the attributes
>I listed. Sorry, Jenna, I didn't mean to insult you.
>
>-abh

No, of course not. But man, "indefatiguable", what a word!

tushar
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:19:39 EDT
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Another Latin quiz
              25 Aug 1992 21:53:32 EST from <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>

Bellum entropicum asks me:
>Thought of subscribing to CLASSICS at UWAVM?

   Hadn't until just this moment.  Do they get, you know,
   down and dirty?

   brad
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Rhubarb Pie
Date: 4 Sep 1992 20:42:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock) says:

>I'm one of the latter--chop it up and put it in the pie, dump the sugar &
>flour mixture on top, dot w/butter, add the lattice top and bake.  One hint
>I've found, since I hate finding strings of rhubarb between my teeth, is to
>de-string the rhubarb like you would celery before chopping it up.  I've
>never heard of Theresa's method, but it sounds like a good way to make
>great rhubarb pie.

Are you the kind that premeasures, or do you just eyeball it?  I'd offer to
post my mom's apple pie recipe too, but she uses the latter method.  Enough
sliced, peeled and cored apples to heap into the crust, tapioca to line said
crust and absorb moisture, and then dump sugar, cinnamon and nutmeg on top
until it looks right.:-)  It's difficult to tell someone else how much "until
it looks right" is.

Ruth
culinary apprentice

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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 08:08:36 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Packet drivers and ham radio
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Which reminds me (yes, i'm still working in exhausted mode despite
two cups of coffee) that I told Chet (our LAN guy) that you all know
everything and even though you didn't know the answer to the tftp
question I asked, I told him I was SURE you would know this one:

What's the connection between ham radio and packet drivers?

We have two different telnet and ftp packages, one of which allows us
to finger.  But the packet drivers are differnt, so rebooting is
involved.  Unfortunately, the set that doesn't allow us to finger has
a great telnet setup.  So we're busily trying to put this all togethr.
And this was one question that came up; Chet said that in his netroaming
that a number of the packet drivers he came across are for ham radio.

Karen
who believes that words-l is the way, the one way, despite having
watched Robert Tilton on TV last night.
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: Gleanings Ooops
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 23:31:52 GMT
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N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU (Gilbert Smith) writes:
> READ:    which included almost losing a <sinclair> to the
> kerosine.

Did your lodge ever use the "flaming roll of gasoline-soaked
toilet paper on a wire" stunt?  That was always a disaster
waiting to happen...

--karsten

(I wonder if many examples of the old name and symbol remain)
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:56:15 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      RE: What about Henry?
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              2 Sep 1992 17:21:52 CDT from <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>

On Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:21:52 CDT Bandwidth Pig said:
>-abh
>kill em all let God sort em out

amen, sister....amen.....

especially all those motherfuckers on deathrow....methinks this keeping
them hanging on for a dozen years of appeals is much more inhumane than
just giving them the ol' needle and being done with the irredeemable assholes.

dan
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:32:00 EST
From:         "Alec D. Plotkin 215-645-4366"
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Subject:      Private vs. all others

(New mailer- Sorry if you see this twice)

I think for this discussion to continue we must differntiate
the types of schools. The types would be:

Religious or parochial - I don't consider these the same as a private
school. These schools have a special set of ideas which they
to foster which is religion based. They tend not to be open to
new ideas or controversial ideas.

Private or prep - These schools run by money from students and alumni.
no money from churches or religious organizations. Open because they
answer just to parents,alumni and boards of trustees.

Public- State,local or federally funded.

i went to all three types of schools and found real private schools to more open
then religious private schools. There are really three catagories. With this in
mind, i think the discussion might change.


later

alec
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:59:44 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (56)
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              24 Aug 1992 18:25:00 JST from
              <TANAKA%JPNSUT20.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>

On Mon, 24 Aug 1992 18:25:00 JST Akio Tanaka said:
>Hello - I'm back with a new set of obnoxious Gleanings :-)  Hi, Anne Hr. :-)

   fun, yes.   obnoxious, never.

>Nice to know you, Entropy Warrior.  I happen to be a Jap, if you are
>interested.  Keep in touch.  What do you mean by 'Yob twoju mat'', by
>the way?

   Why do I get the feeling that Entropy Warrior doesn't give a shit....
about Akio or anything else except him/her/itself?

>19) Fluff mistress (Dan)

   In the world of porn flicks the fluffer is the person (usually female,
but imagine it could be male in the gay flicks) who has the job of keeping
the male "star" erect between scenes/shots.
   I suppose it is something like a stand-in in regular flicks, but not
the same....since the standin stands while they adjust focus, lights, etc,
but the fluffer is doing her job off to the side, keeping everything on
the up and up, so to speak.
   I believe my comment on fluff mistress was a counterpoint to someone
else saying that someone was a fluff mistress.

>30) Spin doctor (Carol C.)

   In addition, a spin doctor is also a term for a DJ (disk jockey).
Also, there is a group now called the Spin Doctors.

>36) Leona Helmsley (Dan)

   Hotel queen who is in the slammer for tax evasion or tax fraud.

>40) Sally Jessy glasses (Dan)

    Flashy, big-framed, plastic glasses in various gaudy colors....more of
a fashion statement....

>41) IDTA (Dan)

   I Done That Already.   (with the implication that I do NOT need to do that
again...Gail, for example, would say that about having a kid....so would I)

dan
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 15:29:41 EDT
From:         mgarber@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU
Subject:      Re: RevereWare
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To Droby who thinks he/she is in a pseudo marriage.  In California the
pseudo marriages which end in divorce often get messier than the the
legal marriages, because they are treated as contractual arrangements
(not written usually) while actual divorces go through family law
courts which have protections, regularized procedures, laws and a
great deal of experience to help out. Marilyn
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 05:39:20 -0500
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TGTABagnes2
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> > >Uh, 'scuse me?
> >
> > Me too!
> >
> It's far too confusing to explain...let's just say it's a long, long
> story...a sad, sad story...a story that would make you cry.

And a tremendous e-oops. :-)
Doris
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From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: fire and ice 
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:36:48 +0000


In article <WORDS-L%92082701180849@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA writes:
>Windex.  Spray it on the cloth - not on the screen, so that it
>gets no chance to run down into the works and corrode things.
>No it doesn't hurt (it or you) to do it while it's turned on.

hee hee hee.  Well, you *are* in a different country I suppose.  You
should be safe there from sparks flying when Natalie gets jolted.

Natalie, before putting anything wet on your screen (cloth, or worse -
 spray-on foam) leave your machine switched off for *many* hours.  Best
do it first thing am in fact before you power up.  Otherwise use
rubber gloves.

G
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:07:43 -0400
From:         droby@NOVA.TCS.TUFTS.EDU
Subject:      Re: ducky St. George
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              03 Sep 92 19:49:38 EDT." <9209031955.aa01447@Nova.TCS.Tufts.EDU>

>  I have never called anyone <ducky> and have never heard the term
>used other than just ducky or the children's game Duck Duck Goose.
>Now that you make an interesting implication there, I will just have
>to find out about <ducky>.
>

Every day when I Make my way to the tubby, I find a little fellow
who's cute and yellow and chubby <rub-a-dub-dubby>...
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 23:22:07 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Why I Teach
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I just got back from the Dukum Inn (yes, it's trite, but the music
was good).  A former student has been in Japan for the past two years
and she is back in town for three days.  I like this woman enormously;
I met her when she was a sophomore.  Two of my third year students went
to Japan this past summer for 3 weeks, and now they are arguing w/ me
a lot about the kinds of things I teach them to say.  So tomorrow I am
going to sic this former student on them.  Tee hee!  I love it.  I am
very proud of this woman, she has been working in a Japanese school
system in Chiba prefecture for two years, and is signed up for a 3rd
year.

I guess I like teaching to see the students grow up and be wonderful
adults.  I've been very lucky in that a lot of my students keep in
touch; another student who was in Japan for a year came by yesterday.
So I get to find out how they are doing.

I can say for sure that the reward is NOT in the day-to-day teaching.
I am exhausted after teaching 9 hours this week. Only three more to go.
(To Doris and ndh: I know you teach more. And my heart goes out to you.)

Karen
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:18:58 -0500
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Note to Bernard
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On Mon, 31 Aug 1992, Rashmi Murthy wrote:
> Hey, //anne//, did you learn this ditty here or in Karachi/Sri Lanka?  I
> recognize this from girlguide camp way back when.  Kinda surprising and neat
> that people half way around the world sing the same camp songs.
>
> (And I'm impressed that you remember the words, I'd forgotten them.)
>
This is interesting...we've heard quite a lot of Gilbert's Boy Scout
reminiscences...I wonder how many Girl Scouts/Girl Guides there are on the
list?
ndh (who was a Girl Scout when cookies sold for 50 cents a box)
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:49:24 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Hello
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Hi, Shona.  Welcome to Insanity.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From: ak743@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Doretta Hanschka)
Subject: Re: San Diego
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 21:47:46 GMT


In a previous article, ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU (Dan Lester) says:

>>And "Likes Them Big and Stupid" - "in love 'til we're through then he's out
>>in the hall"<grin>  I always liked Julie Brown.
>close, ruth...close...."make love til we're done, then he's out in the hall"
   I *knew* I should have looked that up; the album's here somewhere.

>and one of the MANY things I like about you is that you look a lot like
>Julie....
   I do? <funny look>   I hadn't noticed; is that good or bad?:-)  I prefer
Superman sans lobotomy myself; of course from the way Chris Reeve played him
it was hard to tell ol' Sup hadn't had one.....

What do you think of Mojo Nixon [sometimes w/Skids Roper]?  

>
-- 
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 19:35:50 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Modems excite me...
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> > And the settings in the dial directory are the same as the ones when you're
> > not in the dial directory?  The dial directory knows the right com port etc?
>
> It should; I didn't change anything.

But if the settings happen to be different in the dial directory, Procomm
will switch to those different settings when you tell it to dial that
entry.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:59:00 EST
From:         CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      Re: politics right and left

Greetings,

I find myself once again forced to disagree with Bayla.  In point of fact,
when one applies the "clear and present danger" test to the present-day
extremists of left and right, one can only conclude that the right does in
fact pose clear and present dangers; the same cannot be said of the left
(except by the right wing extremists who so enjoy distorting the record to
their own ends).  Moreover, I tend to agree with Tony and Noam that the
range of political discourse in the US is limited.  There is a fairly
wide *allowable* range at the present time (witness the number of radical
magazines of left and right that can be found in particularly good bookstores
in cities with populations of over 500k or cities where universities are
located), but that allowance hardly translates into any meaningful discourse,
since the US is largely post-literate and meaningful mass discourse occurs
only on the radio and television.

The great promise of cable TV, that it would serve a wide variety of
interests and offer a channel for the dissemination of ideas outside the
mainstream has largely been broken (as Springsteen says, 57 channels and
nothing on).  There is hardly any mass media coverage of political ideas
that fall outside the mainstream of Democratic and Republican thought
(such as it is).  Most Americans probably think healthcare only became a
matter of discussion and poltical interest last fall and winter when the
Democrats were starting their run for the presidency; that is, most Americans
are unaware that a whole host of social, political, and economic ideas are
being discussed on the fringes, but aren't deemed important enough for
TV coverage until the main parties pick them up (usually in a poorly
understood form, anyway).

Finally, one might wonder what kind of discourse is "meaningful."  It is
true people can (at the moment) sit in bars and talk politics (if one
grants that the level of such talk is usually very tedious in a country that
is extraordinarily uninformed about very important issues), but there is
hardly any meaningful discourse in the places that count: legislatures.
We claim (inaccurately, in my view) to be the freest people on the planet,
but our legislatures are made up almost exclusively of representatives of
the commercial sector.  Why is it that government in the US is almost
totally devoid of representation from the real political left (except for the
lone rep from Vermont).  One sign to me that the right is more dangerous than
the left is the simple fact that David Duke and Pat Buchanan (both of whom
I would characterize as right wing extremists) garnered immense amounts of
media coverage and substantial votes among their targeted audiences; the
same cannot be said of any left wing candidates this year.

Marty
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:42:29 EDT
From:         Rashmi Murthy <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Fabrications
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              "ktw@POLARIS.ATT.COM" at Aug 26, 92 11:47 am

Wow, Is this for real?  (Haven't listened to the news.)  It's awful, a
sign of the times, perhaps.  Remember the incident in Iowa last
year when a Physics grad student shot and killed 3 or 4 people.

rashmi
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 21:01:13 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Was Gonna Read
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I was gonna finish reading a book tonight, and here I am still playing
with the computer.  Michael and I are playing Strip PCPlus.  What's
everybody else doing?  Maybe I should log off and finish my book. Bah.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:19:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Ribbit...ribbit...ribbit...
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> 84, two years younger than my father, who at one time dated one of his
> sisters.
> Doris

Good guess, doris, and I guessed the same before I saw your guess.
This, again, is a congenital trait, I'm sure.
--ggs
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