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From: brettw@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Brett D. Watson)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notis-l
Subject: Re: NOTIS AND Z39.50
Date: 30 Jul 1992 10:42:53 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

"Michael J. Stephens" <VB7R0007@SMUVM1.BITNET> writes:
[... deleted ...]
>Cheryl, was this demonstrated with the plain vanilla LMS or was PACLink
>required.  Also, I have only received sketchy information about InfoBase.
>When is more info going to be available?

  Good luck getting any more info.  NOTIS has been hedging around for
weeks with us and we wanted to be a test site.  First we were told
InfoBASE only ran on an RS/6000.  Then NOTIS came to our site and told
us it ran on ANY Unix platform: Sun, HP, etc...

  Well, yesterday I find out that InfoBASE was DEVELOPED under AIX and
wasn't even PORTED to ANY other operating system.  All I get are
conflicting reports from NOTIS.  If you find something out, I'd like
to know! ;)

-=- Brett

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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 10:16:08 CDT
From:         Nancy Pope <LBYSEC@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Enhancement Process - Clarification Requested

Due date of enhancement ballots varied among SIGs, depending on how much
time each wanted to get them to NOTIS to use for the big ballot.
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:19:30 CST
From:         "Michael J. Stephens" <VB7R0007@SMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Circ Module Problems Again

I should have said "Let's hear something soon."
                          ----
Sorry,

Michael Stephens, sheepish Tech1 (and SIG Chair)
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:48:37 EDT
From:         Lydia Pettis <LRP@CORNELLC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Billings & recalls
              21 Jul 1992 18:00:36 PDT from <LSYS1@UVVM.UVIC.CA>

Cornell would be interested in knowing if the bill/fine problems
reported (re:credits instead of charge, recall due date problems)
that have been reported when using TERM due dates are also occurring
with regular due dates in 5.0.2.


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*  Programmer/Analyst              BITNET: LRP @ CORNELLC   *
*  501 Olin Library                                         *
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*  Ithaca, NY  14850                                        *
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From: HSAMUELS@UA1VM.BITNET
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Subject: Re: lgt300p changes
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:17:21 GMT
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              30 Jul 1992 13:00:32 GMT from <jlc5f@POE.ACC.VIRGINIA.EDU>

The University of Alabama has successfully implemented the changes to
LGT300P with no reported problems.  These changes do not have to
coincide OCLC's move to MARC update #4.  We have confirmed this with
NOTIS.

Harry Samuels
Programmer/Analyst (TECH 1)
University of Alabama
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Msg-Class: ALL-IN-1 V2.3 BL8-4 Rev. AAC 20-Dec-1988
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 11:21:01 -0400
From:         Margaret Rohdy <rohdy@A1.RELAY.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Preliminary enhancement ballot

	I can speak only for the Cataloging/Authorities SIG.  We are charged by
NOTIS to contribute 10 enhancement suggestions for the LMS ballot which
will be distributed by NOTIS to LIB1s in August.  Each SIG has its own
method for selecting the desired number of enhancements.  We mailed a
preliminary ballot listing 56 (!) suggestions to each NOTIS site.  We asked
for a simple, unranked selection of the ten most urgent enhancements.

	We mailed one ballot to each site represented in SIG membership,
to a CAT1 who is charged with consulting other cataloging and authorities
staff before returning the vote.  The CAT1 strategy is new this year.
  We have had problems in the past with catalogers who felt disenfranchised
 in the SIG process; so we tried to direct our preliminary ballot with this
in mind.  Some sites designated their CAT1 at our SanFrancisco meeting;
for others, we selected from our mailing list one name from each site to
receive the ballot.

	Editorial:  This is not a perfect process.  Democracy, if that is
what is desired, is cumbersome.  The marketplace of ideas includes both
treasures and trash.  I made the decision to include every idea that had
been suggested on our ballot for two reasons:  1> It is good to listen to
all suggestions within the SIG.  2>  Responses on the ballot will help us
identify not only the ten most urgent enhancements, but also areas where more
training and information is needed (Yes, we know there are some things
on our ballot that NOTIS can already do, with more or less tinkering.)

	Action item:  If you have suggestions for improving this
enhancement process, especially if you have thoughts on alternatives to the
democratic process described above, please share them with the SIG chairs.
				Margaret Rohdy, Chair
				Cataloging/Authorities SIG
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 10:22:46 LCL
From:         Bob Jones <BJONES@UNF1VM.BITNET>
Subject:      NOTIS via BITNET

I have been trying to reach NOTIS over the INTERNET at the address
listed in NOTISes:  NOTIS@twain.notis.com
All mail has been returned.  Does anyone know the correct address or
another syntax which will get electronic mail to NOTIS?  Please
reply privately.  Thanks.

Bob Jones   (904) 646-2552 : SUNCOM 861-2552 : FAX 904-646-2719
Head, Public Services Division, and Library Systems Coordinator
University of North Florida Library              P.O. Box 17605
4567 St. Johns Bluff Road, South         Jacksonville, FL 32216
BITNET: BJONES@UNF1VM  ::   INTERNET: bjones@unf1vm.cis.unf.edu
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:45:24 EDT
From:         David Gewirtz <REDOAK@YALEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      106 Extract Program

At Yale we are having a problem with the N502 version of the journal 6
extract program. The step whichs read and extract data from journal 6
fails with a condition code of eight and no other diagnostic messages
are produce -- very helpful !. We would appreciate hearing from any user
that has encountered this problem.


Thank You,
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:49:28 EDT
From:         Liborio Campisi <LPCBH@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      aica abends

Even though we are in the final month of Notis 4.6, a problem
with aica abends when discharging has occurred. The aica
occurs in dflca200 and I believe this module is called
by dflca610. Notis has suggested that something maybe
wrong with our calendar. But I haven't been able find it -
comma missing etc. The abend occurs at two service
units and for 3 patron categories:a faculty category,
a special patron and student patrons. Other services units
are still charging successfully.

I would appreciate hearing from anyone with similar
experiences and suggestions how to fix this problem.

Liborio Campisi
Tech 1
City University of New York
212-541-0316.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:04:03 EDT
From:         Tari Keller <KELLER@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 5.1 OPAC CHANGES (SCREEN)

In NOTISes July issue on page 2 it tells which screens were 15 lines--going
to 13 lines and the rest were 17 lines going to 15 lines.

We modified a good number of screens, most of which took full advantage of
the space on the screens.  We are an early release 5.1 site and I am supposed
to pick up the report of which of our ERIC and Medline screens will be missing
lines in the conversion during lunch today.  I understand from our Tech 1 that
the latest tape of 5.1 includes the corrected version of this report for the
LCR file, so I can see a report of which OPAC screens will lose lines next.

Knowing how hard the committees worked to develop those screens, it isn't going
to be easy to go back to them and ask them to rework the screens again.  Not to
mention what it might do to the librarian who will be doing the rekeying of the
information because of the wonderful text editor!

Add us to the list of shocked and dismayed. Not an official opinion, mind you.

Tari Keller -- Systems Librarian (LIB1)          UU   UUUUKKKKK  KKKK
University of Kentucky Libraries                 UU   UUUU KKKK KKK
127 King Library North, Lexington, KY  40506     UU   UUU   KKKKKK
(606) 257-2643           FAX (606) 257-8379      UU   UU  0  KK KKK
KELLER@UKCC    INTERNET: KELLER@UKCC.UKY.EDU      UUUUUU     KK  KKKK
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:13:15 EDT
From:         Gerard Philippe Menos <gpmenos@FIRESTONE.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Chat: Enhancements
Comments: To: NOTIS/DOBIS discussion group list <NOTIS-L@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU>

I very much appreciated Michael's remarks, which included the
following:

> From: "Michael J. Stephens"
> <VB7R0007%SMUVM1.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU>
> Subject:      Re: Chat: Enhancements
>

> Programming Systems (OOPS) have been introduced to help
> this (C++).  Any system programmed in assembler is going
> to have a tough time of after several generations of
> maintenance.  Oh darn, I've got to cut this short and go to a
> meeting.  Some of you are sighing with relief, I'll bet

An assembler programmer, however, took issue with this viewpoint,
claiming that the language used is not as relevant as the quality of
the systems design.

I do not argue the importance of systems design.  Nor do I denigrate
the considerable accomplishments of assembler wizards.  But it is not
accurate to say that assembler can compete with modern, higher-level
languages in the realm of programmer productivity.  Just count the
number of lines of code the same application requires in assembler
versus C or C++, etc., and it's easy to see why an application
written in assembly takes longer to produce and is more costly to
develop and to maintain.

Assembler was once necessary to ensure an efficient application.  The
compromise in software development was necessary to accomodate the
hardware of the past.  But advances in hardware now allow us to get
the apps we need more quickly and more cheaply with high-productivity
development environments, without compromising on performance.

Phil Menos
Princeton University Libraries
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:53:50 EST
From:         HAL CHENEY <LIBHALC@INDST.BITNET>
Subject:      ACCESS TO SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY NOTIS-L ARCHIVES

I do not recall this problem being discussed on the list.

Syracuse University maintains an Archive of NOTIS-L messages which is
searchable in a number of ways.  Recently an Indiana State University
Libraries staff member identified a problem with that access.  As they
followed access instructions, at one point, instead of getting a selection
menu, they were jumped directly and unexpectedly into Syracuse's ERIC
database.

We queried the Syracuse network manager; below is the explanation and
recovery instructions we received.

   >...What you're running into is a quirk (feature?) of the PRISM
   >/SPIRES system.  One of the things a PRISM user can do is tell
   >PRISM to remember which database they are interested in.  The
   >problem occurs when a SUINFO user does this as SUINFO employs a
   >pool of anonymous VM userids....The result is that PRISM "remembers"
   >the database preference of the last person to use a particular
   >anonymous userid and assumes that the next user of that userid
   >is the same person.

In other words, if the last anonymous VM user of a given userid accessed
the ERIC database, it assumes that you, as the next user of that userid
also want to access ERIC and skips the selection menu process.

    >The way out is to move the cursor to the command line if it isn't
    >already there and enter SETUP.  On the SETUP screen clear the
    >"remembered" database identifier, move the cursor to the command
    >line and enter SEND.  When the SETUP screen clears move the cursor
    >to the command line if it isn't already there and enter SELECT.
    >That will take you back to the main file selection menu....

I hope that this helps the next user who might encounter this problem.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:18:55 EDT
Comments:     Resent-From: Mark Ludwig <ULDMJL@UBVM>
Comments:     Originally-From: Robin Wendler <RRKING@HARVARDA.BITNET>
From:         Mark Ludwig <ULDMJL@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      CHAT-L: NOT AN OFFICIAL NOTIS COMMUNICATION

It is ironic that what they really meant was:
we should prepare now
for what NOTIS doth
prepare not.

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Prepare not to alleviate any lost screen data in Release 5.1.

How does one prepare not to alleviate something?
Who writes this stuff?

Robin Wendler
Harvard U.
rrking@harvarda
etc.
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X-Resent-Date:  Sat, 25 Jul 92 16:21:50 EDT
X-Resent-From:  Betty Landesman <BETTY@GWUVM>
X-Resent-To:    NOTIS-L <notis-l@tcsvm>
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:40:06 EDT
Comments:     Resent-From: Betty Landesman <BETTY@GWUVM>
Comments:     Originally-From: Betty Landesman <BETTY@GWUVM>
From:         Betty Landesman <BETTY@GWUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Bibliographic software

I've been trying and trying to send this to the list.  If it doesn't
make it this time, I'll try Mark Day's new PRO-CITE list!
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I'm going to try re-sending this - don't think it got to the list the
first time around.
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
We have looked into PBS' ProCite for downloading and manipulating records from
NOTIS.  However, it will handle only 3 processing units.  We are part of a
consortium system, and 3 is not enough.  PBS will only change this as
custom programming for us.  At a not trivial cost.

Is there anything ELSE out there that anyone on the list knows of that we
should investigate?  Or does anyone have a solution for the ProCite problem?


Betty Landesman
Coordinator, Systems Planning
Gelman Library
George Washington University
2130 H Street NW
Washington, DC   20052
BITNET: BETTY@GWUVM   Internet: BETTY@GWUVM.GWU.EDU
Phone: 202-994-1333   Fax: 202-994-1340
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 08:37:26 CDT
From:         HSAMUELS@UA1VM.BITNET
Subject:      Re: LB685 Recreate Action Index

Here at the University of Alabama, we regen. the Action Index once a week
with no ill effects.  At one time there was an inconsistency between the
batch regen. and the on-line software but that was corrected probably a
year and a half ago.  My only motivation in running the regen. is to
remove the CI and CA splits.  This simply reflects a personal preference
on my part to reorg. indexes by regenerating them instead of using reorgs.

Harry Samuels
Programmer/Analyst (TECH 1)
University of Alabama
Bitnet: HSAMUELS@UA1VM
Internet: HSAMUELS@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Voice: (205) 348-2877
Fax: (205) 348-9170
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 07:45:00 CDT
From:         Edie Dixon <DIXON@WISCMACC.BITNET>
Subject:      Using SAS ASSISST

A wek or two ago, I posted a message asking if anyone was using SAS-ASSIST on
the mainframe -- and what the overhead costs were.  So far, no response.  Does
no one use SAS-ASSIST?

Edie Dixon, LIB1
U of Wisconsin
bitnet: DIXON@wiscmacc
phone: 608-262-3525
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:08:14 EDT
From:         "Kate Seago" <KSEAGO@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: lgt300p changes
              30 Jul 1992 13:00:32 GMT from <jlc5f@POE.ACC.VIRGINIA.EDU>

The University of Kentucky tested the changes to the GTO this morning.
We were able to export bibliographic records, authority records, and overlay
both types with the change in place.

Next challenge is will it work after OCLC updates its MARC format this weekend.

            --Kate Seago, University of Kentucky
              (kseago@ukcc.uky.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:58:19 PDT
From:         "Kathleen Matthews" <LSYS1@UVVM.UVIC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Sorry for mail clutter

The POSTMASTER at TCSVM is constantly returning my "sends" to NOTIS-L
as well. I thought this was a local problem. Perhaps not. How do we
"report" this phenomena. I know my mail does get distributed because I
checked the Archives files and other responses indicate the mail is getting
distributed. Also, is is possible to have messages echoed back to the sender
as a way of confirming distribution ?  Thanks.
On Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:36:35 EDT Betty Landesman said:
>Thanks to all who let me know my messages were getting through, how to
>know that, etc.  It wasn't so much the lack of getting a copy of my own
>message (but thanks for the REPRO advice!) as the continuous receipt of
>messages back from the POSTMASTER at TCSVM that there was no such
>recipient found that led me to think I wasn't getting through!  I haven't
>had that problem on other lists.  Major mystery.  Sorry for the mailbox
>clutter.

**********************************************************************
KATHLEEN WEBSTER MATTHEWS (LSYS1@UVVM.UVIC.CA)
Systems Librarian, McPherson Library
UNIVERSITY OF VICTORIA, VICTORIA, B.C., CANADA.
(604) 721-8219
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:10:00 EDT
From:         Janet Woody <JWOODY@VCUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      MDAS enhancement list

This is an official MDAS SIG communication ...

The preliminary MDAS enhancement ballot was sent out on NOTIS-L last
week.  A paper mailing will not be done due to lack of resources to
handle such a task (I don't have time to send it; you don't have time to
read it).

The MDAS SIG has not really needed to do extensive paring down of
enhancements in the past since we have not compiled long lists
of them.  This year we have about 12 and we need to indicate to NOTIS
our top ten.  But I am planning to send them all of them by the August
10 deadline.  Perhaps when they see how reasonable and useful our ideas
are they will find time to implement all of them.

In a few days I will send out the enhancement list again with some additional
ideas and corrections that I have received since the last mailing.  But
please don't expect a paper copy.

Janet Woody, MDAS SIG chair
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:18:41 EDT
Reply-To:     Diane Hillmann <DH5@CORNELLC>
Comments:     Resent-From: Diane Hillmann <DH5@CORNELLC>
Comments:     Originally-From: Heather Braithwaite Simmons
              <HSIMMON@CMS.CC.WAYNE.EDU>
From:         Diane Hillmann <DH5@CORNELLC.BITNET>
Subject:      NOTIS Enhancement Ballot

Forwarded from Law-Lib listserve.  Apologies for the duplication.
D.I. Hillmann
----------------------------Original message----------------------------

The NOTIS Law Users' Group enhancement ballots are due TODAY!!!

I will still be able to accept them early next week, but please get them
in ASAP.

If you didn't get a ballot, call or E-mail me and I will fax you one.

Please rank you choices in descending order, first choice 10, second choice
9, third choice 8, etc.

I CAN'T COUNT THE BALLOT IF YOU DON'T RANK ALL YOUR CHOICES.

Thanks!

Heather Braithwaite Simmons
Wayne State University Law Library

internet:     hsimmon@cms.cc.wayne.edu
bitnet:       hsimmon@waynest1

voice:        (313) 577-6173
fax:          (313) 577-5478 or
              (313) 577-5498 or
              (313) 5773553
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 08:54:50 CDT
From:         Nancy Pope <LBYSEC@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Invoice - add p stmt

In the NUG for Acq/Ser, p.157 the data dictionary indicates that you can
"enter a higher number on the next blank line before the letter "p" "
to add another 7 blank statements for entering payment data.
We have been entering DONE and going round and round to get more and would
like to know how to do this other method. Any ideas? I don't see a blank
line before the letter "p". Thanks for any hints.

We are on 4.6.1 for a few more days, and have tried this in 4.6.1 & 5.0.2.

Nancy N. Pope                 Phone:    504/388-3215
Assistant to the Dean         FAX:      504/388-6992
LSU Libraries                 BITNET:   LBYSEC@LSUVM
104 Middleton Library         Internet: LBYSEC@LSUVM.SNCC.LSU.EDU
Louisiana State University
Baton Rouge, LA  70803
From: FACP005@SAUPM00.BITNET (husni al-muhtaseb)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notis-l
Subject: (no subject given)
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:16:41 GMT
Organization: King Fahd University of Petroleum and Minerals, S.A.
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Subject:      Is it possible to have a backup for DOBIS/LIBIS catalog on PCs

HI,
We are at King Fahd Univerity of Petroleum and Minerals, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia,
Using DOBIS/LIBIS with 200,000 records. We have a back up catalog cards of the
same records. A question has been arised. Is it possible to have the back up
on 386/486-based PCs and get red of the paper cards? The aim is to provide
users with easier search facilities  when the main system is down.
Please, if you have related information let us know.

Thank you

Husni Al-Muhtaseb
KFUPM - DPC
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:20:35 EDT
From:         David Gewirtz <REDOAK@YALEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      106 Extract

Please be advised that I have resolved my 106 problem. Thank you to
anybody that may respond to my question.
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