From: chip@rrc.chevron.com (Chip Parham)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Fly Tying
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:14:21 GMT
Reply-To: chip@rrc.chevron.com
Organization: Chevron, Richmond, California

>	Are fly tying recipes fair game on rec.outdoors.
>fishing? I've enjoyed the current How-To-Do-It rod making
>stuff that's appeared recently. But I'd like to see more
>fly tying AND LUREMAKING stuff too. 

I would love to see a thread on fly tying get going.  Especially if they include a stories illustrating 
how the particular pattern and or material was used and how effective it was.  

As an example:  I purchased some size 20 baetis (Small Bluewing Olive) emerger flies (sight 
unseen) utilizing CDC from Renee Harrop in Idaho.  He has been promoting flies using CDC 
Duck feathers which are oil saturated and do not need to be treated with fly flotant.   Basically,
these emergers looked and fished like RS2's that I have been tying for about three years.  The
major difference was that the wing on an RS2 is cut off quite short and Rene leaves tha wing
longer on his emerger so that it can be fished more efficiently dry.  My experience was that 
they worked wonderfully (as does the RS2 - fished both wet or dry) until I caught my first fish.  
After the first fish the fly became totally worthless as a dry.   With the great fishing on the Bighorn
(20 to 40 fish days) this could get expensive fast.   The flies would not even dry.  If you used drying agents the flys became clumps.  As CDC feathers are extremely expensive I looked for another solution.  That night I  tied up some standard RS2's except I left the wing long.

	Steps (In order) for Baetis Pattern , sizes 18 &20:
	Tail  - Wood fibres short and scruffy
	body - muskrat fur dubbed on grey thread (without guard hairs, grey which
	           darkens to a dark grey when wet).
	Rib - brass fine wire
	Wing - Pheasant phylo feathers. Tie in wet style winding around hook shank.  
	           After tying off, stroke fibres up to top of hook shank and wind thread back
                                   to hold feathers in place.  After finishing the head and tying off cut off wing
                                   short to fish as a wet.  Cut off long to fish dry.  When you cut wing be sure
                                   to cut off perpendicular to hook shank.  Phylo feather are the under feather
	           on a pheasant back patch.  They look like grey down and are extremely
	           fragile.
	Head - dub head and whip finish. same dubbing as body.

Fished wet the RS2 in sizes 18 & 20 was terrific in all types of water from glass smooth back eddies to fast riffles.  A little lead on the leader is needed in fast water.  A little flotant on the
wing of the emerger is all that is needed for a great emerger pattern to fish dry.  This was my most effective pattern in smooth water casting to a specific head.  By the way Rene Harrop is a wonderful person and a fantastic tyer.  He ties without doubt, the finest no-hackles around.  I never tie these they are just to difficult to tie properly.  They stay together and cast well.  These 
were my second choice when casting to selected heads if the emergers didn't get a rise.  He is also
a very good artist and his prints which feature his fish  drawings and which feature presentation
ties of his patterns are a real treat.  If anyone wants his address I will respond to e-mail .