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From: ramasubr@ecn.purdue.edu (SUBU Ramasubramanian)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Indian classical music concert at Purdue
Date: 7 Apr 92 07:17:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: noose.1992Apr7.071745.2353
Reply-To: ramasubr@ecn.purdue.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

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<         INDIAN CLASSICAL MUSIC ASSOCIATION OF PURDUE
<         --------------------------------------------
<                    PRESENTS A FLUTE RECITAL
<                            BY
<                      DR. N. RAMANI
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<A.KANYAKUMARI (VIOLIN)              GURUVAYUR DORAI (MRIDANGAM)
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			FLUTE: An indian wind instrument
			MRIDANGAM: An indian percussion instrument
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<DATE: TUESDAY, APRIL 14, 1992         TIME: 7.30 PM
<VENUE: NORTH BALLROOM, PURDUE MEMORIAL UNION
<       WEST LAFAYETTE, IN 47907
<
<TICKETS: $7 (STUDENTS), $10 (OTHERS)
<         AVAILABLE AT
<         LOEB AND HALL OF MUSIC OFFICES
<FOR TICKET INFO CALL (317) 494 3933

 NOTE FOR FOLKS COMING FROM OUTSIDE OF LAFAYETTE:
 1.Overnight accomodation can be arranged for a max. of 10 persons; let
 us know in advance (email to ramakril@vm.cc.purdue.edu)
 2. Preferably reserve your tickets in advance
 3. Children below 10 will not be permitted
 4. Directions -

Take I65 (South /North) and exit at State Road 25
After the ramp take a left onto 25 South towards
Lafayette.
At the first Trafic Lights (TL) take a right onto
US 52 West
Keep going on US 52 W, pass two TL
On the third TL take a left onto Yeager Rd.
(At this light you should see a Amoco gas station
just ahead of you and ACE Hard Ware Store on your right)
Take a left onto North Western on the next TL
Keep going on North Western. You should see Smittys on
your left after passing the first TL. After this TL
pass one more TL. On the third TL, you should see a McD
on your left and University Buildings on your right.
You are now on the intersection of North Western and
Stadium.

Pass the next TL and take a right onto State St on the
second TL.
Take a right onto Grant St. on the next TL and park in the
garage on your right, which is right after you make the
turn.
North Ball room is in the Purdue Memorial Union
which is opposite to the garage.
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: elliott@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Elliott New)
Subject: Re: Blues Record Stores in Chicago?
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 17:34:07 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.143049.22213@samba.oit.unc.edu> thorn@phoenix.radonc.unc.edu (Jesse Thorn) writes:
>I am going to be in the Chicago area next week and was wondering where
>to go to get Blues lps, cds, etc. ANy recommendations on stores?

Go to The Jazz Record Mart (JRM).  They've got tons 'o Blues and Jazz cds/records... even 78's.
If you're there on a Saturday afternoon, tell Bob (the guy w/the gray beard) that
Elliott said, "Hi".  The JRM is downtown on Ohio St, or something like that.  Look
them up in the book and get directions.  Very cool place.  Lots of new and used stuff.

Another good place is Wax'n'Trax on North Lincoln.  They are an alternative rock store (very
alternative...), BUT they have a great Blues section... if you can stand listening to 
the stuff they play over the store's stereo.

I'm very envious!

Hope this helps -- have fun,
Elliott New
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Jazz Musicians in the movies (was: Jon Hendricks in...)
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:15:24 GMT

mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella) writes:
>Branford Marsalis was Billy Crystal's neighbor in "Throw Mama From The Train".

Branford also plays one of Larry Fishbourne's buddies in Spike Lee's
SCHOOL DAZE.   He just walks around with a small sax and acts stupid.


--Gidi


Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: jaz@icd.ab.com (Jack A. Zucker)
Subject: Re: Hip Chord Voicings
Organization: Allen-Bradley Company, Inc.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 13:10:36 GMT

I have to say that I'm disappointed that the discussion has digressed
into which ascii representation of a particular chord voicing meets
the IEEE standard. :-<

-Jaz
-- 

                       (Chasin' the Trane)

| Jack A Zucker                              {uunet}!jaz@icd.ab.com |
| Allen-Bradley Company, Inc.                    or  ICCGCC::ZUCKER |
| 747 Alpha Drive                                                   |
| Highland Hts., OH 44143 Phone(216) 646-4668   FAX: (216) 646-4484 | 

Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: rshapiro@arris.com (Richard Shapiro)
Subject: three more Incus items
Organization: ARRIS Pharmaceutical, South San Francisco, CA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 15:56:33 GMT

Incus has released another pair of cds and also reissued Derek
Bailey's book on improvisation:

CD10: Derek Bailey, Solo Guitar v.1 
Improvisations + compositions by Misha Mengelberg, Willem Breuker, and
Gavin Bryars. Recorded in 1971 (reissue of Incus 2 and Incus 2R).

CD11: Derek Bailey, Solo Guitar v. 2
Improvistions. Recorded in 1991.

10 pounds each, postpaid.


Improvisation: Its Nature and Practice in Music, 2nd edition
 by Derek Bailey. 12.95 pounds (+ 2 pounds shipping for airmail)



    Incus Records
    14 Downs Road
    London E5 8DS
    England/UK


I've never seen the book, but pieces of it have been read aloud on
some previous Bailey recordings. Sounds like a low-key, thoughtful,
and drily amusing text -- kind of like the way Bailey plays the guitar
:) I plan to buy all three of these items.


Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: jaz@icd.ab.com (Jack A. Zucker)
Subject: Re: Hip Chord Voicings
Organization: Allen-Bradley Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 21:04:13 GMT

In article <2064@transfer.stratus.com>, bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr8.184528.17699@icd.ab.com> jaz@icd.ab.com (Jack A. Zucker) writes:
|> >BTW, I love the sound of b9 and #9 in the same chord.
|> 
|> Me too.  But you can't get much worse than a b9 and natural 9 in the same
|> chord.  (Except maybe a natural 7th on a dominant seventh chord ;-) )
|> 

I disagree :-) Try this line over a Dmi7 G7 Cmaj7 sequence (2 beats per chord)
It's a classic Charlie Parker line. Remember, there is no such thing as
a wrong note.

| Dm7     G7        | Cmaj 7 |
| D E F D D# F# B A | G      |

Furthermore, one of my favorite substitutions (improvisation-wise) is to
use bVImi7 - bII7 over the V chord. For example:

Rhythm section: | Dm7      | G7        | Cmaj7    |
Me (Soloing)    | Dm7      | Abm7 Db7  | Cmaj7    |

Of course in this example, the b7 of the Abm7 is the maj7 of the G7
chord. It sounds fine. It's only sound man

-Jaz
-- 

                       (Chasin' the Trane)

| Jack A Zucker                              {uunet}!jaz@icd.ab.com |
| Allen-Bradley Company, Inc.                    or  ICCGCC::ZUCKER |
| 747 Alpha Drive                                                   |
| Highland Hts., OH 44143 Phone(216) 646-4668   FAX: (216) 646-4484 | 

Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: hsu@sp24.csrd.uiuc.edu (William Tsun-Yuk Hsu)
Subject: Re: Dave Holland
Organization: UIUC Center for Supercomputing Research and Development
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 16:13:50 GMT

dadoun@cs.ubc.ca (Nou Dadoun) writes:
>and a co-led date with Braxton on Sackville called Trios & Duets.   

Holland is only on a few cuts on this. But they're lovely duo renditions
of Embraceable You and You Go to My Head, and maybe one more tune.

There's also a nice ECM (!) record with Holland and Derek Bailey. And
Holland played on one of the Company records on Incus (Fables?). My
trusty Essential Jazz Companion mentioned that he teached at Banff.

>"That Dave, man he's a bitch..."

Yeah I'm a *big* Dave Holland fan (tho for some reason the '80s stuff
don't really turn me on). I don't know why, but my ear jumps to attention
at good free bassists like with no other instrument (except the piano which
I try to play :-)). Gary Peacock. Barre Phillips. Barry Guy. Steve Swallow.
Dave Izenson. Mark Helias...

Bil
From: R.J.Walker@bradford.ac.uk (Roger Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Straight no chaser
Keywords: Monk
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:03:05 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 90572411@ccw410



Does anyone know where I could get a copy of "Straight no chaser"
(Film about Thelonious Monk) ??

I can't get it here in the UK.

Thanks
Roger
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: rshapiro@arris.com (Richard Shapiro)
Subject: Re: Herbie Nichols
Organization: ARRIS Pharmaceutical, South San Francisco, CA
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 15:00:01 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.213406.13723@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer) writes:
>The Mosiac set was issued as a double LP in the 70s and called THIRD
>WORLD. 


These two sets are compiled from the same group of sessions, but
there's quite a bit more material on the Mosaic set: 48 tracks vs 22
on THIRD WORLD. Mostly alternate takes, but also a number of different
tunes. One session in particular, the second with Roach, is
represented by only one track on THIRD WORLD, whereas there are 11
tracks from this session on the Mosaic collection, 10 of which have
never been issued before.
From: mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Hip Chord Voicings and: Quit being so anal-retentive !
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:21:15 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

In rec.music.bluenote, jeremy@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Jeremy Gibbons) writes:

> Doubtless this has come up before, but could someone give me a ref for
> Levine's book?

Since it just happens to be sitting here at my desk:

The Jazz Piano Book
Mark Levine
Copyright 1989, SHER MUSIC CO, PO Box 445, Petaluma, CA 94953
ISBN 0-9614701-5-1
$20

It covers a range I would describe as "advanced beginner" to "beginning
advanced".  It assumes some basic familiarilty with jazz to start with, and
leaves some loose ends, but it manages to pack a lot of information into a
very readable and entertaining text (compare: George Russell's "The Lydian
Chromatic Concept Of Tonal Organization For Improvisation", which reads like
the tax code...)

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Marc Sabatella      "Blondes and jazz seldom go together" - Cmdr. William Riker
marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
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From: gmayhew@falcon.lerc.nasa.gov (George Mayhew)
Subject: Re: Joe Sample
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:56:51 GMT

In article <17818@awdprime.UUCP> sross@cdc001.austin.ibm.com (Stacey Ross) writes:
>I have completely devoured (i.e. memorized) Joe Sample's _Spellbound_ and have
>listened to one other of his albums, _Ashes to Ashes_. I really enjoy his style
>of music and would be interested in discovering other artists who put out
>similar music. Any suggestions? Artists and titles?
>
You might enjoy Sample's work with the Crusaders.  He was one of the 
founding members.  Try "Healing the Wounds", one of the most recent 
Crusaders albums.

george


--
George Mayhew                     gmayhew@falcon.lerc.nasa.gov
Sverdrup Technology, Inc.         (216) 891-2943
From: cwalker@canopus.tmc.edu (carleton walker `93)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Chick Corea Question
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:45:35 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, Pa.

In article <1992Apr5.194023.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca> ebaddour@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:
>I'm a big fan of Chick Corea.  I have all the recent cds that he plays 
>on like elektric/akoustic band, Weckl's and Patittucci's albums(I 
>think).  My question is : does anyone know much about his Return 
>To Forever days ? Is the stuff listenable?!? Much as I think the man 

	I think the stuff is very listenable, especially the weird
electric stuff the group is best known for. But this is only half the
picture. Albums like LIGHT AS A FEATHER feature some reaaly good
improvisation in a lighter setting (also see MUSICMAGIC). 
	The main difference between RTF and the Elektric Band is
packaging. The Ele. is tighter (for better or worse) structured.
	What I like best about the "weird" stuff is its constant and
unpredicatable change. The group will lay into a steady groove, and
then throw some "classical" figure as shown in (like ROMANTIC WARRIOR or WHERE
HAVE I...). 
	I think I have all of the stuff that RTF recorded. If anyone
wishes to contact me via EMAIL, I'll give a more detailed description.

Carl Walker
--
Carl Walker				"Hectic days ahead of us,
Bucknell University			 Rotten ones behind,
Lewisburg, PA				 Keeping plastics in our pockets,
					 Children never mind." - K, S, & W
From: gwl%wave3_1@MCNC.ORG (Glenn Lea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Zorn and Burrell
Date: 13 Apr 92 11:57:33 GMT
Reply-To: gwl%wave3_1@mcnc.org

"More News for Lulu" (John Zorn, George Lewis, Bill Frisell
interpreting Blue Note hard bop tunes) is much more interesting than
their first try -- it's quite entertaining, in fact.  Frisell is a
major contributor this time, and he accounts for much of the
difference in openness and interplay.  With the first album, I had
usually had enough after about 5 cuts and would take it off.  Here, I
listened to half of it at a time (2 * 39 minutes) and it seemed short.
Note that 13 of the 15 songs on "More" were also on "News"; they even
repeat "Blue Minor" again, so we now have 4 versions on 2 albums.

Dave Burrell's solo stride piano tribute to Jelly Roll Morton ("Jelly
Roll JoysJ", on the Gazelle label) is also a treat.  He even plays
Coltrane's "Moment's Notice" and "Giant Steps" and a Charlie Parker
tune in the Morton style.  Short (41 mins) but sweet.


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Glenn Lea - reply to gwl@wavetracer.com
Wavetracer, Inc.
From: mcnamara@vixvax.mgi.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Arthur Blythe recommendations
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:26:14 CDT
Organization: Management Graphics, Inc.

	I have got a few Arthur Blythe recordings (Da-Da, In The
Tradition, and Put Some Sunshine In It come to mind), and would like
to have some more.  The problem is that at least one of these
(Sunshine) is fairly poor (IMHO trying to do fusion ....).
	So what are your recommendations?

p.s. Thanks to all the people who rave about David Murray.  His
stuff is hard to find in the cheapo shops I frequent, but I
found a recent big band release, as well as Shakil's Warrior.
Great stuff!!

Curt McNamara			mcnamara@mgi.com
Mgmt. Graphics, Inc.
Mpls., MN
From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: On to Tower... (Was: Random Thoughts - ROVA, Wire, New Stuff
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:09:27 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

I saw the 7 CD set of the complete Miles at Plugged Nickel.  But I think
that has been out for a while.

also an import on Atlantic, Mingus Cumbia and Jazz Fusion, a late Mingus
large band work.  I have it on vinyl, and recommend it.

Jeff
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From: hsu@sp24.csrd.uiuc.edu (William Tsun-Yuk Hsu)
Subject: Re: Zorn and Burrell
Organization: UIUC Center for Supercomputing Research and Development
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 21:06:43 GMT

Glenn Lea (gwl@wavetracer.com; when are your systems people going to
get that fixed, Glenn??):

>Don't let Naked City scare you away from Zorn.  His earlier "Spillane"
>and "Big Gundown" are complex, thoughtful, accessible and original...

Agreed. The fact that Naked City has become Zorn's high profile project
is a mixed blessing.

Probably a good time to trot out the "different Zorn projects" list:

early '80s	non-idiomatic free improv (Pool and a few other records
		on Parachute; Yankees with George Lewis and Derek Bailey
		on Celluloid is a nice session from this period)

mid '80s	improv games and scripts, postmodern references :-). Spillane, 
		Big Gundown, Godard ca vous chant, a piece on Hal Willmer's 
		Kurt Weill record, Cobra

late '80s	consolidation of improv games into Naked City. Painkiller.
		Slan.

misc. projects	bebop deconstructions (Lulus, Sonny Clark Memorial 4-tet),
		Spy vs. Spy, plays with Nicholas Collins, Butch Morris
		(superb Zorn solo on Current Trends in Racism) and just
		about everybody else...

So, there's something for everyone :-)

Zorn the thoughtful and interesting musician/composer is IMHO best heard
on Yankees, the mid '80s film music cutups, the second Lulu disk, the
Collins and Morris records... I'd like to see a solo alto record from
him sometime, but I'm not holding my breath. 

Bill
From: mcnamara@vixvax.mgi.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Cassette lifetime, cut-outs
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:33:04 CDT
Organization: Management Graphics, Inc.

	Most of my jazz collection has come from the cut-out bins.
Thus the advent of the CD seriously slowed down my acquisitions :-( .
However, a few CDs and many cassettes are showing up in the cut-out
bins nowadays.  On one recent trip I got 14 cassettes and CDs for 
~$50!.  Several of these were blue note releases (or re-releases).
	My two questions are:  First, what is the lifetime of cassettes?
Admittedly I have a few from the early eighties that are garbage,
but these seem to be the fly-by-night publishers.  Most things I
have bought over the last ten years is still listenable.  Second,
I have heard that I should be racked by guilt for buying cut-outs,
because I am keeping the musicians from their royalty payments
(because cut-outs don't count).  Opinions, anyone?


Curt McNamara			mcnamara@mgi.com
Mgmt. Graphics, Inc.
Mpls., MN
From: mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:01:20 GMT
Subject: Re: Hip Chord Voicings and: Quit being so anal-retentive !
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote

Sol writes:

> Also I would interpret G7(b9b5) as being an altered chord because I don't
> consider the HW diminished scale to contain a b5 -- it has a natural five!
> How bout G7(#11b9)?

Be careful here.  While the discussion here has made it abundantly clear that
there are no standards for chord symbols, I do believe "most" people use 7b9b5
to connote the HW diminshed scale.  Since the HW scale has 8 notes, there are
bound to be ambiguities (ie, is C#/Db in G HW diminished a raised fourth or
flatted fifth).  As opposed to the "lydian dominant" scale, which clearly has
a raised fourth and not a flatted fifth.  Don't let everyone be on the wrong
beat except you, Sol :-)

OK, enough pedantics.  Jack, I dig your ii-V tritone sub (ie, Abm7-Db7 for G7).
I use it often as well.  However, it, and your Bird lick with B7 superimposed
over the G7, reminds me of something.

In "Yardbird Suite", the second measure is listed variously as either Fm7-Bb7
or Ab7.  Since the first and third measures are C, one might consider either of
those two versions of the second measures to be substitutes for Dm7-G7.
Question: has anyone noticed either of these subs used anywhere else?  I've
never experimented with them to see if they really work for me in general
(whereas I have with the ii-V tritone sub, and it does), but I probably will
soon.

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Marc Sabatella      "Blondes and jazz seldom go together" - Cmdr. William Riker
marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: Herbie Nichols
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:51:37 GMT

rshapiro@arris.com (Richard Shapiro) writes:
>My my my, what extraordinary music! How could I have gone
>so long without having heard any of this before? 

One way to get clued into Herbie Nichols is the two (or three) sets
of Black Saint/Soul Note, with Roswell Rudd, Steve Lacy, Misha
Mengelberg etc.  (That's how I found out about him... but I agree
that the Mosaic set is a TOTAL MUST!)

>the accompanying booklet is an excellent source of documentation

At least partly written by Roswell Rudd.  Rudd worked and learned with
Nichols, which is why I think those Rudd/Lacy sessions are good
reflections of Nichols' ideas.

> Wonderfully subtle melody

Interesting to note that Nichols actually has one big "hit" song:
He composed "Lady Sings The Blues", a tune closely associated with
Billie Holiday.  


--Gidi
From: gwl%wave3_1@MCNC.ORG (Glenn Lea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Zorn
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:26:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: wavetrac.9204141326.AA07014
Reply-To: gwl%wave3_1@mcnc.org

>>>>> On Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:51:11 GMT, wave3_3!cbnewsm.cb.att.com!hhs (Sweetleaf) said:

  Sweetleaf> [new Naked City albums]  Apparently they'll be 
  Sweetleaf> released on a Japanese label, and will be available in the US
  Sweetleaf> only as imports.  

Right.  Just like "Film Works".  About a year ago, I paid $22 for the
"Japanese-only" import of Filmworks that is now available domestically
for half the price.  Never again.

  Sweetleam> Zorn went on a tirade about the fact that he
  Sweetleaf> can't get his album covers released in the US...

It's time he decides which is more important: his music or his
grossout sex-and-violence album covers.  I think he is a major
musician and composer and I will buy just about anything he chooses to
release, but if I have to pay import prices just so he can indulge his
adolescent fantasies, I'll pass.  It's his loss, as well as mine.

As for the "Sack of Shit/John Lurie's scrotum", grow up, John.  Your
mama should wash your mouth out with soap.

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Glenn Lea - reply to gwl@wavetracer.com
Wavetracer, Inc.
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From: hudak-paul@CS.YALE.EDU (Paul Hudak)
Subject: Music Notation Software
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 13:08:02 GMT

Can anyone recommend a good software package for PC or Mac that
amounts to a good "music score editor"?  My main interest is in jazz
composition, so being able to notate chords above the staff as in a
typical fake book would be nice, along with being able to write out
multiple voices in a conventional style.  Are their packages that also
interface with Midi boards?  Any idea on prices?

I have a feeling this may elicit quite a few responses, so please
reply directly to me and I can summarize to the net.

Thanks for any leads,

  -Paul

Paul Hudak
Department of Computer Science
Yale University
Box 2158 Yale Station
New Haven, CT 06520
hudak@cs.yale.edu