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From: moss@cs.umass.edu (Eliot Moss)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Postscript with EmTex
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:04:41 GMT
	<MOSS.92Jul19122729@ibis.cs.umass.edu>
	<1992Jul19.234802.14198@u.washington.edu>
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	<KARL.92Jul24161806@ra.cs.umb.edu>
Reply-To: moss@cs.umass.edu
Organization: Dept of Comp and Info Sci, Univ of Mass (Amherst)
In-reply-to: karl@cs.umb.edu's message of 24 Jul 92 21:18:06 GMT

>>>>> On 24 Jul 92 21:18:06 GMT, karl@cs.umb.edu (Karl Berry) said:


Karl>     Ghostscript can indeed paint to the screen, but it is far from a
Karl>     fully functional previewer. Can you magnify and move around
Karl>     interactively? Skip from page to page and back again?

Karl> The Ghostview program (which runs under X) can do these things.
Karl> (It uses Ghostscript as a back end.)

Yes, but we were talking MSDOS, not UNIX and X ......      Eliot
--

		J. Eliot B. Moss, Associate Professor
		Department of Computer Science
		Lederle Graduate Research Center
		University of Massachusetts
		Amherst, MA  01003
		(413) 545-4206, 545-1249 (fax); Moss@cs.umass.edu
From: cameron@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Cameron Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Where is (1in, 1in) specified?
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:36:35 GMT
Organization: none

I once said I didn't want to read Volume B of the Computers
and Typesetting series (TeX: The Program), and that I was waiting
for the movie to come out.  Well, I take it back.  I have long
wondered why the reference point for DVI files, instead of being
at the upper left corner of the page, is 1 inch down and 1 inch
in from the corner.  I finally resolved to go to the library and
check out the source and find out.

Naturally, I can't find a reason anywhere.  What's more, I was
surprised to see that "\hoffset" and "\voffset" are not in the
index!  The only relevant remark I've found so far is in
section 590, where it says

  the standard convention for output on normal size paper is
  to position each page so that the upper left-hand corner is
  exactly one inch from the left and the top

It does not say (in that section at least) *why* this is the
convention, or what in the DVI file (if anything) specifies this,
or what changes in the DVI file if you use \hoffset and
\voffset to reposition the print image on the paper.

The library's copy of Volume B is apparently a first edition--
at least, all it says on the copyright page is "copyright 1986"
with no indication of which printing it is or anything like that.
But surely \hoffset and \voffset were already part of TeX82 in
December of 1985 (which is the date on Knuth's preface)?

Any hints from DVI gurus or TeXperts familiar with The Program
would be most welcome.

--Cameron Smith
  cameron@symcom.math.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: schneid@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Schneider)
Subject: Re: MORE HELP: \pagestyle{empty}...still have number 1
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:55:44 GMT

Thanks a lot for the help with my problems.  I received 13 replies in
less than 24 hours.  Again, thanks!

By the way, someone mentioned that I should have read the FAQ, but failed
to mention to me where to find that.
-- 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!! Mike Schneider schneid@jerry.stat.uiuc.edu !!
!! University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign !!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: iigsa01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Andreas Schilling)
Subject: Classical Greek Makro Package Wanted
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 07:00:48 GMT

Is there a possibility to write texts with some words in 
Greek (with accents...) with LaTeX?

I am also looking for Hebrew, but Greek is much more important.

Thank you in advance

Andreas

--
|            Andreas  Schilling            |     Universitaet Tuebingen     |
| andreas@gris.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de |   Wilhelm-Schickard-Institut   |
|          tel.: +49 7071 29 5463          |   Auf der Morgenstelle 10/C9   |
|          fax.: +49 7071 29 5400          | D-7400 Tuebingen, West Germany |
From: richard@serss0.fiu.edu (Albert Chin)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: 2-sided printing with emTeX
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:12:26 GMT
Organization: Florida International University, Miami

Has anyone successfully printed to a laserjet 2-sided with emTeX's
dvihplj printer driver? I've tried the '/pi' option that allows you
to specify an initialization file that gets included in the output
file but that produces a problem. My init file contains *only* the
code for 2-sides on the HP (no ^Z at the end of this file). The
dvihplj manual says that the text in the init file will be output
immediately after the reset (^E) is sent to the output. Well, I
looked at the output file (I don't output to a printer directly with
dvihplj) and after ^E was not the contents of my init file. It came
somewhere later in between an escape sequence. Anyway, I get the 2-sides
but the first page contains an 'L' character in the upper right corner
of the page.

I'm trying to locate a binary editor for DOS that will allow me to
insert the 2-sided escape sequence. But this is not fun.

Albert
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: mjb@eecom.gatech.edu (Michael Bartz)
Subject: Changing baselinestretch
Organization: Coding and Information Theory Lab
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:06:12 GMT

Can the baselinestretch be changed between different values within one
document?  In other words can Section 1 be double-spaced but Section 2 be
single-spaced?  I have tried several attempts with renewcommand with no
success.  Thanks.

Michael
From: karl@cs.umb.edu (Karl Berry)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Postscript with EmTex
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:18:06 GMT
	<MOSS.92Jul19122729@ibis.cs.umass.edu>
	<1992Jul19.234802.14198@u.washington.edu>
	<MOSS.92Jul20111221@ibis.cs.umass.edu>
Reply-To: karl@cs.umb.edu
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston


    Ghostscript can indeed paint to the screen, but it is far from a fully
    functional previewer. Can you magnify and move around interactively? Skip from
    page to page and back again?

The Ghostview program (which runs under X) can do these things.
(It uses Ghostscript as a back end.)

karl@cs.umb.edu
--
karl@cs.umb.edu
Member of the League for Programming Freedom---write to league@prep.ai.mit.edu.
From: weinberg@ilog.fr (Michel Weinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: \uppercase
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:17:54 GMT
Organization: ILOG, Paris, France

Surprisingly, \uppercase{\oe uvres} yelds oeUVRES. Is there any way to
have \oe changed by \OE by \uppercase ?
From: petrovic@watson.ibm.com
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Suitability of TeX/LaTex for producing camera-ready manuscripts
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:31:31 GMT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

I'm going to take some constructive criticism in public (something I don't
enjoy).  For lack of a question mark in the referenced subject line, it
has been pointed out that the nature of my problem is unclear.
I ask:  IS TeX/PicTeX a good tool for
the demanding technical user to employ in the production of 10-20 page
technical manuscripts which must be camera-ready at the publisher?
If not, are there any truly robust TeX-based alternatives?

Regretting the confusion,

Mark Petrovic
IBM Research
Yorktown Heights, NY
Disclaimed.
From: moss@cs.umass.edu (Eliot Moss)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Fonts in EmTeX/LaTeX/TeX
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:03:09 GMT
Reply-To: moss@cs.umass.edu
Organization: Dept of Comp and Info Sci, Univ of Mass (Amherst)
In-reply-to: janhsu@hardy.u.washington.edu's message of 23 Jul 92 03:36:39 GMT

The respondent asks about all the different font files, what they are for, and
what components use them. I'll give a sketch, glossing over (and possibly
misrepresenting a bit) some details, to get you started easily.

TeX and LaTeX care only about .tfm files. For each font foo, there should be a
foo.tfm file available via the appropriate search path. Such fonts can be
scaled to different sizes, but sometimes different sizes of the same type face
are actually redesigned to look better, and result in separate .tfm files. See
something like lfonts.tex to get an idea of how fonts are set up (kind of
hairy, but you get used to it after a while).

The .pk files are for dvi drivers, for previewing and printing. They are
packed rasters. The .pxl files are essentially equivalent, but more bulky and
an older form generally now avoided. The .fli font libraries are collections
of .pk (and maybe .pxl?) files, packed together to save space on disk (most
operating systems allocate in whole blocks, and lots of .pk files means lots
of partial blocks wasted, which the .fli files avoid). They are kind of like
archives or zip files, only specialized to TeX fonts.

If you get into PostScript hacking with dvips, then you will see .vf files,
which describe how a TeX version of a PostScript font, e.g., ptmr, should be
mapped into the raw PostScript font rptmr. For more information on this, and
the config.ps file, the psfonts.map file, etc., read the documentation on
dvips (which is a great program, by the way). there are related tools to build
.tfm files from PostScript font metric files (.afm = Adobe font metric).

METAFONT is a tool for constructing .tfm and .pk or .pxl files from a more
"geometric" description of a font. Given the description, a desired size, and
the raster resolution (e.g., 300 dots per inch (dpi)), and related guidance,
mf creates the stuff TeX needs. I don't use mf myself much, relying on
pre-built stuff available on the net, but I believe .gf files are the
"geometric" descriptions mentioned above.

Because fonts can be done at different resolutions, you may end up with more
.pk files around than you'd first think. Note also that scaling can be (and
often is) done by preparing the same font for a different raster size. For
example, to get a 12 point font for a 300 dpi engine, you can generate for a
360 dpi engine and use the result on the 300 dpi engine. It will be bigger in
the ratio 360/300 = 12/10.

Hope this helps ....
--

		J. Eliot B. Moss, Associate Professor
		Department of Computer Science
		Lederle Graduate Research Center
		University of Massachusetts
		Amherst, MA  01003
		(413) 545-4206, 545-1249 (fax); Moss@cs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: jlph7@fel.tno.nl (Lawick van Pabst)
Subject: Newsprint2.0
Organization: TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 14:47:23 GMT

We have a Sparcprinter and Newsprint2.0 and I still use mf from
NP1.0. Here is my Sparc printer mode:

mode_def Sparcprinter =
 let font_setup=white_setup;         % use the white font_setup
 proofing:=0; 			     % no, we're not making proofs
 fontmaking:=1;			     % yes, ...
 tracingtitles:=0;
 pixels_per_inch:=400;		     % Actually for a Canon engine
 blacker:=0.35;			     % but inside the Sparcprinter
 fillin:=.2;			     % hides a Rank Xerox engine
 o_correction:=.6;
 enddef;

If I remember well I only altered blacker from 0 to 0.35. Compare this
setting with the Canon CX mode. I hope this one works. It works for me.
If people do have better results I would like to hear that.

Joost
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: hudson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (John Hudson)
Subject: TeX too small, what now?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:59:02 GMT

When I include a large postscript file TeX (LaTeX) complains . . .

Unable to read an entire line---bufsize=3000
Please ask a wizard to enlarge me.

What need to be done?  As the source was tossed after compilation, to rebuild
I will need a new copy of the source.  Does the lastest version build with
a larger buffer?  What's a reasonable size?

Sorry if this is a faq.  Where is the faq kept?

Thanks in advance.

John Hudson
Chemical Engineering
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: cameron@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Cameron Smith)
Subject: New version of CWEB sample program
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:12:22 GMT
Keywords: CWEB, sample, demo, Literate programming, LITPROG, calculator

I have created a new version of my CWEB sample program based on
the calculator program from Chapter 4 of Kernighan and Ritchie's
C book.  This program illustrates the use of CWEB with a program
that is divided into multiple, separatly compiled source files (note
that all the demo programs distributed with CWEB are "monolithic").
It incidentally also shows a way of handling ANSI function
prototypes in CWEB.  Since it's getting largish, I'm planning
to take George Greenwade up on his offer to house it in his
archive at niord.shsu.edu (the official archive of the LITPROG
literate programming mailing list).  I'll upload it ASAP; it
should be available tonight or tomorrow.  So please don't ask
for it by email; instead fetch it by anonymous FTP or by mail
request to FILESERV.  Thanks!

The actual Web source files haven't changed at all, but the
Makefile has been substantially improved, and two new files added.
The new version includes a ReadMe file that talks you through
the process of ctangle'ing, cweave'ing, compiling, and TeX'ing
(but assumes you know the basics of how a Makefile works),
and an additional Web file whose purpose is to assemble the output
(.tex and .toc files) from the separate documentation files into
a single file that contains a listing for the whole program, with
the tables of contents, indexes, and lists of sections grouped
together.  This project was created with the intention of having
it serve as a model or template that can be copied to give a
CWEB programmer a pre-built scaffold with which to erect his
own programs.  It is exhaustively (or perhaps exhaustingly ;-) )
documented.

Input from several "beta testers" has been very helpful in
creating this improved version, and I intend to continue
improving it if feedback continues to come in.  This is,
however, the last announcement that I will make in comp.text.tex;
now that the LITPROG list exists that seems a more appropriate
place for such things.

Thanks to everyone who has expressed interest and devoted
time to helping make this a useful example for CWEB novices!
--Cameron Smith
  cameron@symcom.math.uiuc.edu
From: cet1@cl.cam.ac.uk (C.E. Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Serbian
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:35:59 GMT
Reply-To: cet1@cl.cam.ac.uk (C.E. Thompson)
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK

In article <9207221629.AA06604@triples.math.mcgill.ca>, 
<barr@triples.Math.McGill.CA> writes:
|> 
|>               Moreover, a Serbian alphabet is not the same as the Cyrillic
|> alphabet.  There are a few Cyrillic characters it doesn't use and there
|> letters not found in Cyrillic. 

Relying on Hart's Rules (1983 edition), the AMS fonts wncy* (or even the 
obsolete mcy* ones) contain all the characters used in Serbian. In addition
to the standard Russian alphabet these are

   dj   j   lj   nj   \'c   \dzh

(using the wncy* transliteration scheme).

In fact, the AMS cyrillic fonts should be usable for any of: Russian,
Belorussian, Ukrainian, Macedonian, Serbian.

Chris Thompson
Cambridge University Computing Service
JANET:    cet1@uk.ac.cam.phx
Internet: cet1@phx.cam.ac.uk
From: kennedyj@ul.ie (Nonar the Insane)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: How to define this environment ?
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:12:03 GMT
Organization: Jaglan Beta


Hello there ...

I have been trying (unsuccessfully) to do the following in Latex and was
wondering if anybody could help me ...

I would like to be able to define an environment or command (or something :-))
that would take a sentence (maybe as the first parameter) and split it up to
fit into a particular width. It would then take the Information associated
with the sentence (as the second parameter?) and format it within the available
width left (with a slight space between the sentence and the information).

For Example:

\item[This should be left justifi...]
This should be done as normal...

\item[This is the second item]
This is the second items desc...

would result in the following

This should   This should be  done as normal for a page
be left       and cd ncdscnd ndfnvjdfnvjkndf jvndfdvf v
justified     fv fdnfdn vdfvdfvdfjkndfjkvn jdfnv dfjnvv
over here     vnfjnvd fjkvndj fvndfjn  jdfnvjd fnvjvn n
              fvndj nvndf jkdfjkvjkdfvjk njvnfj fjvnvnv
              fkmvklvdfmvkdfm dfkvmvcvc,mv,cxm .,xcmv x

This is the   This  is  the  second  items  description
second item   which djcnsdjn cjksdncn sdjknc sdjcn sdjd
              cccds ds, every Tuesday ate three burgers
              at about Three O'Clock ?

<----------------- \textwidth ------------------------>


I apologise if I have not been very specific, but I can't figure it out
at all ...

I would greatly appreciate any help on this ...

Thanks in advance,
--
Jim Kennedy                |  Mr. Postman look and see                 |
Software Specialist        |  If there's a message in your bag for me  |
University of Limerick     |  Could be a bomb or could be a letter     |
Ireland                    |  It dont matter it can only get better    |
                           |                                           |
Email: kennedyj@ul.ie      |  -- World Party, When the Rainbow Comes   |
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: dmjones@theory.lcs.mit.edu (David M. Jones)
Subject: Re: Citations in superscript
Reply-To: dmjones@theory.lcs.mit.edu (David M. Jones)
Organization: Laboratory for Computer Science, MIT
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:14:38 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.152512.21685@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, radha@bnr (Radha Valiveti) writes:
>A little while ago, someone posted an article which showed how to
>get the citations (in the article style) as superscript numerals, 
>as opposed to [12] etc. I had saved that article but accidentally 
>deleted it. Would anyone having it please send it to me? I have
>looked at the TeX index and could not find anything close to it.

How about the following?  It does a little more than you want, but it
does demonstrate how to get superscript references.  (Check the
definition of \@cite.)

Name: overcite.sty
Description: LaTeX document-style option for compressing lists of three
    or more consecutive numbers into one number range and displaying
    them as a superscripted citation.  E.g., "foo [1,2,3]." becomes
    "foo.^{1-3}".
Keywords: LaTeX, citation
Author: Donald Arseneau <asnd@jack.triumf.ca>, <asnd@triumfcl.bitnet>
Supported: yes
Latest Version: 1991
Archives: shsu*, utrecht
See also: citesort.sty, drftcite.sty, rangecite.sty

Cheers,
David M. Jones                              "Trifles! Trifles light as air!"
dmjones@theory.lcs.mit.edu                              -- the Hystricide

P.S. The TeX Macro Index is available via anonymous ftp from
theory.lcs.mit.edu [18.52.0.92] in the file tex/TeX-index.  To retreive
it by mail, send a message to archive-server@theory.lcs.mit.edu
containing the line "send tex TeX-index".
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jonathan M Lennox)
Subject: Hyphenation before punctuation in LaTeX
Reply-To: jonathan@math.columbia.edu
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:27:44 GMT

  I am typesetting a document in LaTeX, and I am getting a lot of
overfull hbox errors resulting, apparenltly, from [La]TeX's inability
to hyphenate a word followed by an em-dash or \dots, even though it
can hyphenate the base word perfectly well.  For instance:

Overfull \hbox (3.95303pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 90--97
[]\twlrm Over breakfast---my arms were out of the slings and I could feed mysel
f---

The word `myself' is normally broken by TeX as `my-self', which would
cause the line to break perfectly well; however, this doesn't work
with the trailing dash.  I can, of course, insert a discretionary
hyphen in the text, but this seems less than ideal, as TeX ought to
know how to break the word already.  \hyphenation also seems to get
confused by punctuation in its argument---I don't know if `---' caused
a problem, but \dots definitely did.

   Is there some way I can tell LaTeX to ignore the trailing
punctuation when trying to hyphenate?

   I'll try to read comp.text.tex, but e-mail replies will be
appreciated--I'll summarize any useful answers I get for the net.

   Thanks to all.

Jonathan Lennox
jonathan@math.columbia.edu
From: chris@cs.yorku.ca (Chris Phillips)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Hyphenation problems in TeX3.14t3
Keywords: hyphen.tex hyphenation TeX3.14t3
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:07:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: yetti.1375
Distribution: world
Organization: SysAdmin,York University,Dept. of Computer Science, T.O. Canada

We are in the process of converting from TeX 2.1 :

>This is Common TeX, Version 2.1 (no format preloaded)
>LaTeX Version 2.09 - Released 27 October 1986

to TeX 3.14:

>This is TeX, C Version 3.14t3
>LaTeX Version 2.09 <7 Dec 1989>

(I know , Where HAVE we been...? :)

Anyway we are nearly ready to go production but a faculty member
has shown me a problem with hyphenation. It seems to do some strange
stuff (of course the worst is it chose to hyphenate his last name ie "X-
u" ... also "consist-s" , "pe-riod" ...) .

Is there a fix for this? 

(The version of hyphen.tex is the same in all cases, 

>sumnls ./tex82/TeXmacros/hyphen.tex 
> 36323    28
> 28 -r--r--r--  1 root     staff       27667 Jul 13  1984

Is there a newer one? )

Thanks for any help !

Chris Phillips, Systems Administrator     (chris@cs.yorku.ca)
York University,         Dept. of Computer Sciences Ross N620,
4700 Keele Street,       Tel.(416) 736-5053 x 77885 Fax (416) 736-5872
North York, Ontario,                      Canada M3J 1P3
From: Schoepf@sc.ZIB-Berlin.de
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Date: 17 Jul 92 22:14 MDT
Subject: Re: \samepage
Nf-ID: #R:YeNiFZe00WB6EflURS@andrew.cmu.ed:-1388107431:SCHOEPF.92Jul17191424@quattro.sc:1628334831:001:1014
Nf-From: sc.ZIB-Berlin.de!Schoepf    Jul 17 22:14:00 1992


In article <YeNiFZe00WB6EflURS@andrew.cmu.edu> me12+@andrew.cmu.edu (Marc R. Ewing) writes:

   Thanks for the responses on \backslash.

   I have the following:

   \begin{quote}
   \begin{verbatim}
   ...
   \end{verbatim}
   \end{quote}

   which happens to occur over a page break.  So, I wrapped it in
   \begin{samepage}
   ...
   ...
   \end{samepage}

   and it still breaks in the middle.  I tried sticking a \samepage inside the
   \begin{quote}, and also tried a \nopagebreak, without success.

   What am I doing wrong?

You are not using the most recent version of LaTeX. This bug has been fixed recently.
--

   Rainer Schoepf
   Konrad-Zuse-Zentrum                       ,,Ich mag es nicht, wenn
    fuer Informationstechnik Berlin            sich die Dinge so frueh
   Heilbronner Strasse 10                      am Morgen schon so
   W-1000 Berlin 31                            dynamisch entwickeln!''
   Federal Republic of Germany
   <Schoepf@sc.ZIB-Berlin.de> or <Schoepf@sc.ZIB-Berlin.dbp.de>

Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: asnd@msr.triumf.ca (Donald Arseneau)
Subject: Re: Syntax question for LaTeX newenvironment (with \fbox)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: LaTeX
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 01:50:00 GMT

In article <schwartz.711810279@lead17>, schwartz@rtsg.mot.com (Steven R. Schwartz) writes...
>I'd like to define an fbox that's included in a LaTeX environment,

% Framed parbox environment.  May contain verbatim mode.
\def\fpbox{\par 
  \setbox\@tempboxa\vbox\bgroup
    \advance\hsize-2\fboxrule \advance\hsize-2\fboxsep \textwidth\hsize 
}
\def\endfpbox{\egroup\fbox{\box\@tempboxa}\par}


Donald Arseneau         asnd@reg.triumf.ca
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,soc.culture.yugoslavia