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From: G0900@vmcms.csuohio.edu
Subject: Wanted Greece slides
Organization: CSU
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:17:57 GMT

 
I have just returned from my trip to Greece and while there I purchased
some slides.  I am interested in locating a way to purchase more slides.
Does anyone have any information on where I can buy slides or know anyone
that sells slides?   Is there such a place/person that loans slides out?
 
Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.  I am also interested in
photos, books or even postcards.
 
Katherine Pasalis  g0900 at csuohio  or g0900 at vmcms.csuohio.edu
From: SPW103@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Slightly overexposed FujiChrome 100.
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:50:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92232.155034SPW103
Organization: Penn State University

Okay, small question.  I just shot my first roll of FujiChrome 100.  I usually
shoot KodaChrome, so I don't really know much about the film.  Anyhow, I just
realized that I exposed the whole roll with my meter set at 125 ASA (I had just
finished a roll of Plus-X before the FujiChrome).  My instincts tell me it
should only make a slightly perceptible difference.  Should I bother with askin
g the processor to push it slightly?

                                    -Stephen Walker spw103@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: jacobson@cello.hpl.hp.com (David Jacobson)
Subject: Re: media permanence (was Re: photo-developing, specifically nudes)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 04:48:02 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories

In article <2k_nzw_@dixie.com> jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
>finn@isi.edu (Greg Finn) writes:
>
>>	I doubt that paper tape is used on a significant scale now.  I
>>never claimed that there weren't some old digital technologies still
>>around, just that they are now insignificant.  Other than for
>>mini-computers and ASR 33 ttys, paper tape never had much of a
>>following from what I remember.  Certainly not by comparison with
>>Hollerith cards.
>
>How quickly they forget.  I see you've not been around the typesetting,
>process control or machine tool biz very much.  Not only did paper
>tape achieve dominance, it is still in widespread use.
>
>OB: photo stuff. 
>
>Hmm, now to get some of that fancy Iterated Systems Fractal compression
>magic so I can take these 100 mb color scan files, compress 'em down to
>60kb or so and plop 'em out on paper tape.  should last a millienum or
>so.

But don't forget to document the Iterated Systems Fractal compression
algorithm *with the tape* so that it can be decompressed after a
millenium.  

This is just one more reason that digital media will be difficult to
read in 100 years (to say nothing of 1000).  Not only will the media
have to have survived (probably not too much of a problem) and the
technology be available to read the raw bits, but if the bits were
compressed, the decompression algorithm must be available.  If there
was an error correcting code applied, that probably will need to be
known.  And even if the data is just organized into blocks with
headers, addresses, etc., all that has to be known or deduced.

  -- David Jacobson
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: aoad354@chpc.utexas.edu (Jim Xu)
Subject: info wanted for P30t and Tarkumer 28-80, 70-200 lens
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 21:20:29 GMT

Dear Netters:
I plan to buy a P30t with Tarkumer 28-80 and 70-200 len, and a 
sa160 flash. Does anybody can tell me how good of the Tarkumer lens,
Especilly at the FULL aperture. Does P30t have TTL auto flsh?

Any information is highly appreciatted.

Jim
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm)
Subject: A LaTeX model release form
Organization: Ocean Sciences Centre
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:57:07 GMT

	This is a very simple LaTeX file, which should compile without
	any hiccups.  When I pulled the file into the mail editor it was
	slightly confused, and I did some carriage returns to make it
	more readable on the net.  I have seen a book somewhere which listed
	several different types of release forms, but can't remember the
	title.  SOme were very intimidating, others were more relaxed in
	wording, though still constituted a release.  Hope this helps
	y'all.

	Craig Hamm


\documentstyle[12pt]{article}
\pagestyle{empty}
\setlength{\textheight}{9in}
\setlength{\textwidth}{5.5in}
\begin{document}
\begin{tabbing}
\=Date \hspace{.7in}\= \underline{\hspace{2in} }\\
\>Client\> \underline{\hspace{2in} }\\
\>Model \> \underline{\hspace{2in} }\\
\> Model's agency \> \underline{\hspace{2in} }\\
\> Total Fee: \> \$ \underline{ \hspace{1in} }\\
\end{tabbing}
	
In consideration of my employment as a model by the above for the fee stated, 
receipt of which is hereby acknowledged, I hereby sell, assign and grant to the
photographer, or those for whom the photographer is acting as indicated above, 
the right and permission to copyright and/or use and/or publish and republish
photographic pictures of me in which I may be included in whole or in part, in 
colour or in black and white, made through any media by the photographer at his
studio or elsewhere, including the use of any printed matter in conjunction 
with such photographs.\\

I hereby waive my right to inspect and/or approve the finished photograph or 
advertising copy or printed matter that may be used in conjunction with such
 photographs, or to the eventual use to which it may be applied.\\

I hereby release and discharge the above, its assigns, and all persons acting 
under its permission or authority or those for whom it is acting, from and 
against any liability as a result of any distortion, blurring, alteration, or 
optical illusion that may occur in the taking of the picture, or processing or 
reproduction of the finished product.\\

I herby warrant that I am of full age and competent to contract in my own name
  in so far as the above is concerned. I have read the foregoing release and 
warrant that I fully understand the contents thereof.\\

\begin{tabbing}
\=Model's signature: \underline{ \hspace{3in} }
\end{tabbing}

\end{document}
From: jimc@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Jim Cathey)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Sigma 600mm f/8 Reflex on AF cameras?
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:38:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: ISC - Bunker Ramo, Spokane, WA

In article <1992Aug17.143107.26943@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> acs@csri.toronto.edu (Alvin Chia-Hua Shih) writes:
>I don't know about contrast, but mirror lenses are infamous for having
>"doughnut-shaped highlights" (instead of fuzzy blobs) for out-of-focus
>points.  So, that should be a dead giveaway.

It is, if there are any out-of-focus highlights.  I don't tend to shoot
pictures of these, or at least I didn't with this lens.

>What is the MF process like at f/8?  I've read that the focusing aid

Sorta iffy, but not a real problem outside in daylight.  No worse than
using a polarizer on one of the 'new' long zooms (at f/5.6 to start with).

>"may not be useful at apertures smaller than f/5.6" (just like AF).
>Is it that the two halves of the split suddenly become effective when
>the image is "almost" in focus?  How is it less fiddly than the AF light?

The split will sometimes black out one half or the other, depending on
just what angle you're looking through it at, and particularly so if the
focus is far off.  I've been able to use the split by wiggling my head
around a small amount.  Not fun, but no killer either.  (The split works
best with my 400mm lens).

>It's a shame Canon's 2x teleconverter doesn't work with your 80-200/f2.8L!
>(I don't know how good it is, but there was a review of TC's in "Practical
>Photography", and the Tamron TC really degraded lens performance.)

Canon's are reputedly pretty good.  Maybe if I chip out that rear element
I could fit one of them on there... :-)

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Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Scratched Lens!
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (Stafford)
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:17:01 -0600
Followup-To: rec.photo
Distribution: world
Organization: msus


My 55mm f3.5 Takumar 6x7 lens has been scratched.
It is a 'clean' straight line scratch about .5"
long right smack in the middle of the lens.

Is there any way to restore this lens?

john
From: rah@public.BTR.COM (Richard A Hyde  rah@btr.com)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Camera in car (was Photo Contest)
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:03:06 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

In article <HEGARTY.92Aug12151636@caradhras.bernina.ethz.ch> hegarty@caradhras.bernina.ethz.ch (Christopher Hegarty) writes:
|
|
|One problem is that inside my car tends to get very hot in
|summer; I'm concerned about film lifetime.  Can anyone tell me 
|how often I might need to replace the film, or recommend film with a
|relatively long lifetime under these conditions?
|

I keep a survival kit in my car that contains, among other things, one
of those "disposable" cameras.  I intend to replace it once a year.

Rick


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From: phr@soda.berkeley.edu (Paul Rubin)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: flash recommendations, was: Advice for Buying a Nikon 8008s "Package"
Date: 13 Aug 92 10:28:20
Organization: CSUA/UCB
Distribution: usa
	<1992Aug12.201741.25130@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: dougb@comm.mot.com's message of Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:17:41 GMT

    I have both. Get the SB-24.  The SB-23 is fine as a second flash, but it 
    is pitiful as a first flash.  Very good chance at red eye.  I don't
    think it will cover to 28mm, and if it does, it isn't very powerful.
    Primarily, it is stupid.  I can only use it on my TTL nikons because
    it doesn't have a manual mode.  It doesn't even have a test button.
    I might go with a third party flash before settling for the SB-23.

This sounds like good advice.  I have been wanting a compact
second flash and considered the SB-23 but decided against it for
these reasons--I want to be able to use it on my non-TTL Nikons too.
Nice things about the SB-23: very compact, *very* fast recycling,
autofocus assist.  Can anyone recommend a comparable 3rd party
flash?  Tilt/swivel would be nice, but I can live without the AF
assist if needed.

In bigger flashes (I feel foolish using my SB24 on a mechanical camera
and having a backup is a nice idea), does anyone use a Sunpak 383?
Does it really beat the Vivitar 283/5?
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: monson@hobo.ECE.ORST.EDU (Ty Monson)
Subject: Re: Kodak Publications (was: Flourencent light question)
Organization: ECE Dept.,OSU,Corvallis
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:13:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.154820.60@clark.edu> gsnow@clark.edu (Gary Snow) writes:
>In article <226@metran.UUCP> jay@metran.UUCP (Jay Ts) writes:
>>
>>If you really want to know about this, I suggest you get a copy of Kodak's
>>Publication E-104, Color Photography Under Fluorescent and High-Intensity
>>Discharge Lamps.  Call Kodak at 1-800-242-2424.
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Does anyone have a list of Publications by Kodak and other Camera/Lens/Film
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>manufacturers? Like this one about, and Cannons Speedlight reference guide.
>
>Any help appreciated.......
>Gary Snow
>uunet!clark!gsnow  or  gsnow@clark.edu

   Kodak publishes an index to its many publications. The Kodak index
   also contains ordering information. The "800" number will serve you
   nicely, but I can't say what people should do outside the USA.

   Manufacturers of other photographic equipment generally provide
   brochures on their products. Write directly to the company, 
   or their authorized representative.

Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: clare@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Clare Johnstone - UCS)
Subject: Stereo Realist manual service repair help
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 06:15:32 GMT

Please - Does anyone have a user manual or other documentation on
the Stereo Realist Camera as made by David White Co. of Milwaukee?
This camera was out of date in about 1960.
Unfortunately as it was a replacement for a different brand stolen
from me I never had any manual, and have managed to jam up the
wind on mechanism. 
I am hoping to find a technician who knows how to fix it, does
anyone know of one?

Clare Johnstone, University Computing Services, 
University of Western Australia, Nedlands, Western Australia, 6009
Tel +61 9 380 2607, Fax +61 9 380 1014, Email clare@ucs.uwa.edu.au
From: raman@uranus.its.uci.edu (Balaji Ramanathan)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Canon Photura
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:07:16 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

This message is meant for the netter who wanted information on the 
Canon Photura camera.  I could not post a followup immediately and
later I lost track of the original message.

I have had the above camera (the Photura Caption in fact) for the 
past 18 months or so.  The photura caption is different from the
basic model in two ways

1.  You get the option of imprinting one of five captions at the 
bottom of your photograph.

2.  It has an IR remote shutter release.  This is an extremely
useful feature which I am totally dependant on especially for
tripod mounted shots.

Overall, I am very happy with the camera and its performance.
So far, I have not had anything top complain about as far as pictures
are concerned.  I have got pretty flattering shots in all kinds
of lighting situations.

But like all P&S's it is not very flexible.  You can not override any
of the camera's settings (you can of course try to fool the camera into
setting what you want in the first place by pointing it at the wrong spots).

I hope this message helps you.  Please feel free to mail me any specific
querries you have.  My address is raman@translab.its.uci.edu.

Good luck.

Balaji Ramanathan
From: cmcdowel@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Charles E. McDowell)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Cambridge.
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:14:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

I am posting this message as a warning to anyone who is considering ordering
any photo supplies through a place called Cambridge Camera in New York.  
Without going into detail, these guys are extreme sleazballs.  Their ads appear
in all the major photo mags, and their prices look good, but don't be fooled.
As soon as they got my credit card number, they started treating me like
shit.  My order is not arriving anywhere near the time they promised, and I
can't even get them to tell me whether it's been sent out or not for sure.
Stay clear of Cambridge Camera!   (This is my way of getting a little revenge,
if I can get them to lose some sales through this newsgroup!)


[ Charles McDowell                   Purdue University - Lafayette, Indiana ]
[ cmcdowel@ecn.purdue.edu            School of Electrical Engineering       ]
From: gsnow@clark.edu (Gary Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: 500 MM lens for Canon EOS wanted
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:45:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Aug14.154505.29923
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

In article <lmazur-130892164933@winchester.princeton.edu> lmazur@pucc.bitnet (Leszek Mazur) writes:
>In article <92225.220540U53805@uicvm.uic.edu>, U53805@uicvm.uic.edu (Ron
>Vyhmeister) wrote:
>> 
>> I'm looking for a 500 mm lens for Canon EOS camera.  If you know of any good
>> deals, please let me know.
>> 
>You might want to take a look at Sigma's 500 f/7.2 AF lens.  I've been
>satisfied with the results I've got from mine.

f/7.2?!?! must be a reflex mirror lens right?

Gary

-- 
-----
Gary Snow
uunet!clark!gsnow  or  gsnow@clark.edu
From: kjm@cnmss.tredydev.unisys.com (Ken J. McFadden)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Cambridge.
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:47:08 GMT
Organization: Unisys Corporation, Tredyffrin

In article <1992Aug17.202745.15240@adobe.com> usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) writes:
>| I also wrote a letter to Pop. Photo. Check rated Service...
>
>					-Tamal Ghosh
>
>I've heard others on the net comment that rude, uncooperative
>mail-order dealers sometimes "change their tune" if you tell
>them that you're plugged into a world-wide computer network
>and you're going to tell EVERYBODY how badly you're being
>treated!
>
>On Cambridge Photo specifically. I've noticed that their ads
>are deliberately misleading.

[...]

>					-Alan

I wonder how much good can be done by writing to Pop Photo considering how
many years Cambridge has been putting multi-page ads in their magazine.

And posting to rec.photo isn't really telling everybody.  There are
certainly a good deal of us that spend inappropriately large portions of
our pay checks on photography in this group.  But we are only a small
percentage of readers of Pop Photo.

What I think would be more interesting would be to try to run a small ad in
Pop Photo that shows the results of the 5 best and 5 worst mail order firms
according to our mail order survey.  I'm sure that there are probably a lot
of angry rec.photo readers out there that wouldn't mind kicking in a few
bucks a piece to get even with Cambridge, eh?  The problem is that Pop
Photo would probably refuse the ad because it wouldn't be in the best
interest of maintaining their advertising revenue.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ken McFadden        kjm@cnmss.tredydev.unisys.com
Unisys Corporation  kjm@cnmsa.tredydev.unisys.com
P.O. Box 203        work: (215) 648-3742
Paoli, PA 19301     home: (215) 675-0382
From: gsnow@clark.edu (Gary Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: F4s, SB-24, what gives?
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:17:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Aug17.161712.8184
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

In article <bd8magh.hchong@netcom.com> hchong@netcom.com (Hoi Chong) writes:
>
>Do we have to live with "front person too white while back person 2 feet back
>too dark" without going to ceiling bounce (not available)? 
>
>What setting should I set my camera at?  M?  Aperture priority?  Shutter
>priority?  Program?
>
>This is for a indoor party, ceiling sometimes not available deal.  Please
>give your experience with F4s/SB-24.  Thanks in advance.  

Well, I don't know much about the F4s/SB-24 combo (being a Cannon and Minolta
freak), but it would seem that all you need to do it set a slower shutter
speed to let more of the natural ambient light into the picture.  If your
max sych speed is 1/250sec use 1/90.  Use your shutter speed like this to
adjust the ambient/flash light ratio, and use your aperture to adjust the
range of your flash (wider apertures mean greater range).  Its much easier
to just put the camera in Manual mode, and the flash in TTL mode. Then adjust
your shutter speed and aperture as you want and let the flash worry about
correct lighting.

Gary

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Gary Snow
uunet!clark!gsnow  or  gsnow@clark.edu
From: tomrice@netcom.com (Tom R. Rice)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Techniques for taking swimsuit models?
Date: 21 Aug 92 02:35:35 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

If you are going to "take them" to the beach, or otherwise in
bright sunlight, be sure to take along a reflector, to help
with filling in the dark shadows.  These are easily made by
gluing aluminum foil (dull side out) to a large sheet of plywood 
or heavy cardboard about 4 feet square.

Probably the most important accessory, IMO.  Besides, if she has
a friend, or insists on a chaperone, holding the reflector in 
position is something useful for the friend to do!  

Good luck!

trr
-- 
"Start off every day with a smile and get it over with."  --W.C.Fields
Tom R. Rice   WB6BYH                   Holler Observatory - 
tomrice@netcom.com                     Longitude:  121 d  30 m  20 s W 
CIS: 71160,1122                        Latitude:    37 d  25 m  10 s N
From: robert@sys.sweden.dg.com (Robert Claeson)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: B+W Fiber vs. RC paper
Date: 12 Aug 92 06:58:15 GMT
Organization: Data General AB, Akalla, Sweden

In article <1508@sousa.ltn.dec.com>, madler@vssad.enet.dec.com (Michael C. Adler) writes:

> Why do "real" B+W printers choose fiber based paper over RC?
> 
> Most of my printing experience is with Ilford Multrigrade III RC.
> It is exceptionally easy to process, variable contrast makes it easy
> for me to stock all grades of paper and I'm happy with the paper's
> deep blacks and bright whites.
> 
> Aside from the aesthetics of having good quality fiber paper over
> the plastic RC surface I suspect the primary reason to choose fiber
> is the greater control available during development.  With incorporated
> developer the RC papers tend to develop very quickly and the results
> of changing developer concentration or swabbing different regions of
> the print with developer are unlikely to be useful.  I also doubt that
> toning an RC print works well.

Most RC papers are not developer incorporated. Ilford Multigrade III
RC Deluxe is certainly not developer incorporated, but I've heard that
there is a version of it being sold under a slightly different name
in the U.S. that is developer incporporated. Toning an RC print wors
very well, just as well as with a fiber-based paper.

My main reason for using a fiber-based paper is pure aestethics. I simply
like the look of a print on a thick, fiber-based paper better. This doesn't
stop me from doing 95% or more of my prints on RC paper, though.

-- 
Robert Claeson            Internet: robert@sys.sweden.dg.com
Data General AB                     robert@sys.dg.se
Box 28                    Tel: +46 (0)8-92 55 00
S-164 93 KISTA, Sweden    Fax: +46 (0)8-751 36 22
From: ark@alice.att.com (Andrew Koenig)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Cambridge.
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:36:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.23489
Reply-To: ark@alice.UUCP ()
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Liberty Corner NJ

In article <1992Aug18.170250.5464@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.m.atkins) writes:

> If you HAVE to deal with these guys, it pays to do so in 
> person. If you can't, then at least be aware of their scams. Preferably buy
> from someone else!

Well... the one and only time I was in their store, the person in line
ahead of me came in to pick up something.  I forget what it was, but he
had called them to make sure they had it in stock and told them he would
be in later that day to purchase it.

Between the time he had called and when he came to the store, they had sold
it to someone else and didn't have any more left.  Incredible.

What was even more incredible was that they didn't do the obvious thing:
offer to ship one to him and absorb the shipping charges.  Instead, they
gave him the choice of coming back some other time or having them ship it
to him at extra cost.

He told them what they could do with their merchandise.  I quietly left
and have never been back.
-- 
				--Andrew Koenig
				  ark@europa.att.com