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From: berntr@ifi.uio.no (Bernt Olav Rostad)
Subject: "One-word" title (Was:Songs With Obnoxiously Long Titles)
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 12:41:36 GMT
Originator: berntr@yrsa.ifi.uio.no


In article <1992Dec13.004227.17338@news.nd.edu>, wlamonac@maddog.helios.nd.edu (William LaMonaca) writes:
> There are several on the new Alice Donut album:
> 
> The Untidy Suicide of your Degenerate Children (also the name of the album)
> She Loves You, She Wants You (It's Amazing How Much Headwounds Bleed)
> The Son of a Disgruntled Postal Worker Contemplates his Life While Sitting in
>     The Parking Lot of A Winn-Dixie and Listening to Metallica.
> 
>     These Should do it.
>     Bill
> 


Why not find the songs with the longest "one-word" 
titles?

Can anyone beat this old Alice Donut song (from
Revenge Fantasies Of The Impotent):

"Telebloodprintmediadeathwhore"


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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: Glenn.Butzlaff <Glenn.Butzlaff@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Need Ministry title help
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 04:32:00 GMT

Help.  Our local alternative station plays Ministry's "Halloween Remix"
quite often; was the original titled "Everyday is Halloween" or 
"Everyday is like Halloween"?  Does anyone have the lyrics or know if they
were printed in an album jacket in those *good old days*.  Any help would
be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Glenn 

Glenn.Butzlaff@mixcom.com
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From: neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: WATT'S ODE TO FLANNEL
Date: 16 Dec 92 10:16:00 GMT
Reply-To: neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black)
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591

Mike Watt did a piece on the greatness of flannel in Option magazine a
few months ago.  It was the issue with Thurston Moore and on of the
Beastie Boys on the cover.
From: stephane.gelinas@synapse.org (Stephane Gelinas) 
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: alt.music.alternative
Date: 18 Dec 92 10:35:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SYNAPSE BBS - GATINEAU, QUEBEC - 819-561-4321
Reply-To: stephane.gelinas@synapse.org (Stephane Gelinas) 

Hi Nathan,

NHS>   what's an "echo"?  :-)

Mmm, it's a terminology used in other networks (fidonet, alternet, etc.).
An 'echo' message area is an area where messages are beeing sent to other
systems instead of staying on the system where you originally wrote the
message.  I'm quite new to internet - I didn't knew what term is used here
to describe such a thing.

Anyway, let's get back to music:

Does anyone know what happened to the guys in Rythm Pigs after they broke up?
This was a great band; I'm quite glad I had a chance to see them live just
before they called it quits.

And whatever happened to the original drummer of the Circle Jerks?  That guy
could drum...!

stephane.gelinas@synapse.org

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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: Judith_Beeman@mindlink.bc.ca (Judith Beeman)
Subject: The The acoustic tour?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 12:24:07 GMT

What can I say? My husband tells me this is what he's heard is possibly
coming to Vancouver. He can't remember where he got this information from.

What a great concept -- Johnson, Marr and crew all acoustic. Could work fine.

Anyone hear about this?
Organization: Sophomore, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 15:01:22 -0500 
From: Spencer J Hollis <sh4m+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: The Strangers

   Theres a band brewing in the bay area called "the strangers".
they are one of the most inspirational acousticly based group that I
have ever laid ears on.  If you see their debut album "dreams of the
land" pick it up.  It is just amazing. very raw and very pure.
    for more information as to their whereabouts or to just pick up
their newsletter write to:
                STRANGENEWS
                P.O. BOX 471060
                San Francisco,
                    CA. 94147-1060
or call their hotline at 415.346.0772
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.music.hardcore
From: acbonin@unix.amherst.edu (Adam Bonin)
Subject: Re: Superchunk
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative,alt.music.hardcore
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:05:59 GMT

Derek Green (greenman@lamar.ColoState.EDU) wrote:
: I think we whould get some dialogue going on Superchunk.  I don't know anyone 
: out here who gets into 'em.  I think they are one of the best bands to come 
: around in a while.  I need people to talk to about them.  Do they ever tour?    Their music begs to be played live. Their version of Devo's Girl U Want is top 
: notch.  Seam is also damn good.  Long live Mac.


Mac is God, no doubt.  And yes, they do tour--they were up in New England and
thereabouts (was it national?) with Velocity Girl (if you haven't heard of them
yet, relax, you will--and should), and by all accounts, they were amazing. Down
here, I think the consensus is that their best song is Cast Iron...

-adam
----
Adam Bonin '94
Amherst College
acbonin@amherst.edu

"He who accepts evil without fighting against
 it is really cooperating with it."
                   -MLK




Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty)
Subject: Re: Fugazi Why can't I walk down the street?
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 01:01:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.164731.21556@news.uiowa.edu> wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley) writes:
>What the hell is this 'queer' stuff?  Are you questioning his sexual 
>orientation?  

Bingo! How did you know? No wait, don't tell me - the "Q" word gave it
away, didn't it!

>Why?  

I KNEW this would happen! I already had a lengthy personal e-mail
discussion with someone about this.Most of you are ready to leap down
my throat, jumping to the conclusion that I was on a witch hunt to
gloatingly expose Ian MacKaye's foul sins and show how he had tricked
you and now is planning to sell your little brothers to transsexual
pimps in Bangkok.

Well you're wrong! - except for Elaine who sanely came to my defense.
(Thanks - you understood the spirit of my inquiry!) 

I ask merely from a cheap-celebrity-gossip standpoint. :) I heard on
the net a few months ago that Ian MacKaye is gay, and I wanted to
verify.  Not that I believe a single thing I read here.

Also I think it would be very refreshing to hear of a prominent gay
musician who neither hid his sexual preference (Rock Hudson syndrome),
nor made a federal case out of it (Prince). I can't think of anyone
who fits this description, can you? Joe Jackson, maybe.

In fact it would be to the hardcore community's advantage to be able
to claim visible queers among their numbers, to prove that they are
not homophobic to anyone who may ask.

So is he or isn't he? 

Richard - original post-er of the FORBIDDEN QUESTION OF DOOM!!!! :)


.
.
.
.
.
From: v22964qs@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Mike Cluff)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: The ultimate women's group (was Re: Why is women's music crap.)
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:09:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <2B28F471.25447@ics.uci.edu>, bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald) writes...
>In article <Bz3unz.L7B@acsu.buffalo.edu> v22964qs@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Mike Cluff) writes:

>>		The Shaggs.
> 
>  It was about time someone mentioned these isolated legends!
> 
>   "My Pal Foot Foot" and "Halloween" prove that the Shaggs were
>  totally riot grrl before the trend even started!

Amen, brother.  They threw all my conceptions about music for a loop more than
any group in a -- hell, perhaps ever.

If anyone wants to know what it would be like for 3-dimensional creatures
to have a glimpse of the 4th dimension, the Shaggs are the key.  And I doubt
any of the Wiggins' ever dropped acid.  

******************************************************************************
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we didn't meet his arbitrary standards.  Oh, and he had his Son offed when he
realized how impossible those standards were.  -- Michael 4:23
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: arashk@athena.mit.edu (Arash Komeili)
Subject: ministry and country music.
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:08:18 GMT

at the ministry/helmet show they played the countriest country music between
sets. I thought it was pretty damn cool.
ak
From: prokopy@sage.cc.purdue.edu (dave)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Stipe-guesting
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:42:22 GMT
Organization: elsewhere

In article <1992Dec10.180158.9385@linus.mitre.org> woycke@smiley.mitre.org (Daniel Woycke) writes:
>Didn't Stipe and Bragg also do a version of "Tom's Diner" acappella.
>Stipe singing some silliness and Bragg as the human beatbox?

this was actually all of r.e.m., with bragg (and robyn hitchcock?  help
me, steph!), done at a live show in england a few years back.  very funny.
available on a limited edition cd single (forget which one.  help me
again, steph!), and on a compilation album of various versions of "tom's
diner."

-- 
( dave prokopy - prokopy@sage.cc.purdue.edu or prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu    )
( "this is my mistake - let me make it good."                               )
(  -r.e.m., "world leader pretend"                                          )
From: nakao@ada.seas.ucla.edu (David Nakao)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Bossanova anti-defamation (was RE: Pixies question)
Date: 12 Dec 92 03:21:09 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

In article <gf9BcjC00VoGM4uUlH@andrew.cmu.edu> pd1o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Pierre Delaly) writes:
>
>I don't know why everybody out here seems to consider Bossanova as the
>worst album of the Pixies. I think it is a GREAT one, along with the
>first ones (Come on Pilgrim, Surfer Rosa, Doolittle).
>Trompe le Monde has disappointed me though; this is one is probably the
>worst album of the Pixies; it sounds like the Pixies had nothing new to
							  ^^^^^^^^^^^
>record, so they just did something similar to the previous albums,
>trying to make it sound more commercial.
>I could conclude by this advise: "Whatever you do, do not buy the Trompe
>le Monde album... " but buy Bossanova !
>
>Pierre

	Basically, I agree with this assessment except for the modification that
if I were CHOOSING between Trompe and Bossanova, I'd choose Bossanova.  The
point being that Trompe Le Monde is OK and worth owning, but every other Pixies
album is better.
	RE "nothing new," I have a tape of a Pixies performance before ANY
of their albums were released and they already had Subbacultcha which finally
appears on their 5th album.
David
From: qazi@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Aamir Hafeez Qazi)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Close Lobsters
Date: 12 Dec 1992 06:41:17 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Keywords: Close Lobsters

In article <1992Dec12.000551.21922@panix.com> nancyw@panix.com (Nancy Weiner) writes:
>   Anyone out there ever heard of the "close lobsters"? I was going through my
>cd collection today and ran across their cd...I haven't heard much from them
>lately...are they still around?
>

--Yeah, I've heard of them.  Great band!  I saw them in concert a few years
  ago at the University of Wisconsin.  To the best of my knowledge, they
  produced two albums and an EP.  The most recent album is "Headache
  Rhetoric," which was released in 1990.  Haven't heard of them since.

--Aamir Qazi
  
-- 

Aamir Qazi
qazi@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
--Why should I care?  I'd rather watch drying paint.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: sister@iastate.edu (Chad M Bormann)
Subject: SISTERHOOD ep
Keywords: hey everyone:
          I'm a big Sisters of Mercy Fan,  but I'm having some trouble
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:06:04 GMT



-- 
A kiss from my lips 
could melt your heart,
or turn it to stone
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mag@wam.umd.edu (Michael)
Subject: Re: Bob Mould (was Re: alt.music.alternative)
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:00:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.124358.26786@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders) writes:
>In article <5405.1618.uupcb@synapse.org>
>stephane.gelinas@synapse.org (Stephane Gelinas)  writes:
>
>> Somebody mentionned on this echo that Bob Mould [is] gay.  I don't know where
>> the person got his facts, though.
>
>I was not the person who said it originally.  But I can tell you that
>there is an article in the _Advocate_ (Nov 3 1992, p. 81) by Barry
>Walters that more or less states this.  
>
> - nathan
>   what's an "echo"?  :-)


     the fact that Bob Mould is gay has been discussed in magazines for
a while now...in fact, Dave Rick (King Missile) decided to come out of
the closet because of Bob Mould's example...this was in a Spin article
sometime last year...

     it doesn't really matter though, Bob Mould is an incredible musician
and it has nothing to do with anything.

     rock on Bob!

-Mike-
From: eauu018@orion.oac.uci.edu (Glenn Kaino)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Rage against the machine
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:37:29 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <92354.014453TH5733A@auvm.american.edu>, Thomas G. Hopkins
<TH5733A@auvm.american.edu> wrote:
> 
> are you that naive.

Look, I have friends in the service... they didnt choose to go to Saudi...
they were ordered there.  I dont think that this qualifies me as being too
naive... 

If this is the beginning of a flame then simply email me yer address and we
can continue this there without wasting others time....
From: v134n2mc@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (DA AGGRO KID)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: NIN - Fixed
Date: 14 Dec 92 06:42:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	What's the deal on this release?  Is it only an import at the moment? 
Or is it already a US release.  Haven't had the time to check the record store
lately.

	Later,
		Dave
From: x3460afe@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: etc...
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:00:31 GMT
Reply-To: x3460afe@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida - CIRCA

from the tourist pamphelet desk of caroliner rainbow:

well, last i heard, greg norton was working at pizza hut up north....
karen finley has probably choked to death on her own poop or something like 
that....the close lobsters are hopefully recording a new album soon....
operation ivy have:  "energy" lp, "hectic" ep, "plea for peace" ep, "officer
" and "i got no" on the cd of 'energy', and "hanging out" on the 'thing that 
ate floyd' comp., as far as i know....and they broke up years ago because,
believe it or not, they were getting too popular and playing shows were  
not as exciting...my friend jon saw their last show, he said it was amazing...  oh, and ian mackaye has formed a hybrid metal/rockcore band called
fugazi ozbourne....ha ha hmmmmmm....

-   caroliner punchline brown supper rum ball.
From: mag@wam.umd.edu (Michael)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Music question--- can anybody help?!!!
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:04:49 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Dec11.125410.12955@walter.cray.com> pierce@cray.com writes:
>
>A couple years ago I bought a prerecorded cassette titled
>"The Edge of Rock."  The title aside, this was a kicking
>album.  It was a compilation including, among others, tunes
>by Camper and  Lemonheads (all I can remember now).  Anyway, 
>I loaned it to a guy who was unable to find it(Hi Steve! 
>which is cool because that's what happens) and return it
>to me.  Does anyone have this tape?  Can I get a list of
>the songs and artists?  I am interested in one song in
>particular "Just Like Heaven" which, of course is a fairly
>weak tune by the Cure, but covered VERY nicely on this album.
>
>Can anyone help me out?


     well, if i'm not mistaken, this was a compilation of cover
songs by a bunch of alternative bands...i don't remember exactly
who's on it, but i know the lemonheads cover "Luka" and camper
van beethoven does "pictures of matchstick men."  I guess the cover
of "Just Like Heaven" is the Dinosaur Jr. one, which can also be
found on their "Fossils" compilation of singles and stuff...

-Mike-
From: neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black) 
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: XTC LIVE 1981 CD
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:45:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black) 

Has anyone heard the live XTC cd from the BBC?  I think the title of it
is simply 1981, and includes tracks up to Black Sea.  Is it any good?
(i.e., is it worth the $22.00 I saw it for?)
                                                                     
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Arlie Davis)
Subject: Joy Division discography?
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 01:52:17 GMT
Reply-To: Arlie Davis <aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu>
Organization: University of Louisville

Anyone have a Joy Division discography?  Checked cs.uwp.edu, no luck.
Thanks in advance.

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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: csg068@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Decker)
Subject: Re: Poppies
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:01:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.013849.26177@rose.com> greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp) writes:
>
>Date Entered: 12-17-92 20:32
>Quoted from: diverson@phys.ksu.edu (David Iverson)
>
>  According to NME (I think), 'Grebo' refers to 'Greasy Boys' and has 
>something to do with one of the various Madchester-type uprisings in 
>the UK music scene.
>

NONONO! Grebo originated in the Midlands in the late Eighties, with bands 
like Gaye Bykers On Acid and PWEI. The West Midlands was, and still is the
home of Grebo (yes, I KNOW GBOA are from Leicester, fact fans!)

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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: manderso@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (anderson mark david)
Subject: Re: MiniDisc is here!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:13:18 GMT

Jens Alfke <jens_alfke@gateway.qm.apple.com> writes:
>>
>>I don't know about you but knowing that some of the data has been dropped
>>is really pissing me off.

>You realize that CD and DAT also drop most of the music on the floor.
>They only record what the waveform was doing every 1/44100 of a second
>and ditch the rest. Does that bother you?  :-)

Actually, that does bother me.  With an analog recording, you get every
last bit of warmth and fuzziness that is naturally present in certain
recording situations.  A sampling rate as "low" as 44kHz is just not  
adequate to pick it all up...  What we need is something more in the 
range of like 88kHz or more...  There are, in fact, many artists today
who are very unhappy with what they feel the CD has done to their music.
Such as Neil Young and Sonic Youth...  SY released two bonus tracks
that were _not available_ on CD, but only on, I believe, vinyl.  Not
sure about the cassette...

Mark Anderson

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: att (Bob R)
Subject: Re: Throwing Muses live and/or acoustic CDs
Organization: nnn
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 23:10:16 GMT

In article <6100@sumax.seattleu.edu>, kbennett@sumax.seattleu.edu ( Slacker Goddess) writes:
> Is it possible to get that acoustic Kristen Hersh CD all by itself?  Is it
> an import, or can I get it domestically?  What about the live CD -- is
                                                           ^^^^^^^
> that a limited edition, expensive thing, or is it just a normally priced
> CD?
> Lena

The printing on the CD jacket implies only short-term availability. Locally
it was priced at $19, in a shop where mainstream stuff is normally $13-14,
and where they often charge more for unusual things (e.g., they have
'Hormoaning,' but for $29).  I'd recommend buying it.  It recreates much of
their latest live set, and the production quality is excellent.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO)
Subject: Re: Grunge
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 11:07:09 GMT

I've never used the term "grunge".
In fact, I didn't hear of it until about a year ago. (Dont flame as I have 
been nuying SubPop stuff since -86. (or was it -87? Can't remember)).
I have allways used the term "Noise-Metal" for it, and I still think that 
sounds way cooler than "grunge".


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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: emp1@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Ernest M. Paik)
Subject: Re: Music question--- can anybody help?!!!
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 12 Dec 92 21:21:58 GMT

pierce@cray.com (David J. Pierce,,,,universe(ucb)) writes:

>to me.  Does anyone have this tape?  Can I get a list of
>the songs and artists?  I am interested in one song in
>particular "Just Like Heaven" which, of course is a fairly
>weak tune by the Cure, but covered VERY nicely on this album.

Can't help you about the tape, but most likely, the "Just Like Heaven"
cover you're referring to is the one done by Dinosaur Jr.

This is on their "Just Like Heaven" single, and also on their compilation
on SST records called "Fossils"...

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley)
Subject: Re: Observation
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:00:32 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

I guess I am anal or whatever then.  I tend to like to have some idea of
what I am getting into when I begin reading the thousands of messages posted
on the net daily.

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