From: john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore)
Subject: Re: faxes and other terror tactics
Reply-To: john@anasazi.com
Organization: Anasazi Inc, Phoenix AZ USA
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 14:30:53 GMT

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In article <1992Aug10.195604.1938@sdf.lonestar.org> thyat@sdf.lonestar.org (Tom Hyatt) writes:
]In article <1992Aug7.192750.28842@anasazi.com> john@anasazi.com writes:
]>Let us not forget a couple of things...
]>  Mary whatshername's "bimbo eruptions" statement was a quote from a CLINTON
]>    campaign aid
]>  Most of her statement (which the press did NOT run) was a collection
]>    of scare tactics and half-truths made by the Clinton campaign against
]>    Bush.
]>
]I agree that both candidates will be doing quite a bit to make the other look
]as bad as possible. However, what I have seen is that the shots that Clinton
]is throwing toward Bush is generally issue-oriented (chiding him for dragging
]his feet in the Croat-Serbian war, etc.) while we hear reports of "bimbo" 
]patrols in the Bush camp.  From _my_ perspective, I've not really seen too

Err... the bimbo patrol is the private detectives hired by Clinton to
rapidly suppress any bimbo who erupts! Since family values IS an issue
in this campaign (as demonstrated by the democrats' constant harping
on it), the "bimbo" issue IS a real issue. Furthermore, since credibility
and character are major issues in such an election, it is not unfair to
point out possible defects in those areas in your opponent. I have heard
a lot of issue oriented attacks on Clinton by Bush, and vice versa. I have
also heard character related attacks on Bush by the Clinton campaign. D

]much on the positive side from the Republican side as to what they will do
]to get the country back on its collective feet. At least Clinton has a plan -
]not that great of a plan, mind you, but at least it's a start.

Sad but true. That's one reason I'll vote for Bush. I'd rather have NO
plan than Clinton's plan!

] One other thing that I did find interesting/humorous about the whole deal. Come
]to find out that the person releasing the faxes was married to a *Clinton*
]campaign worker. Strange bedfellows, indeed.

I agree. That IS amusing!

]>]Also, another troubling trend that seems to be manifesting itself is the
]>]latest claim by Rush Limbaugh and other conservative radio talk hosts. That
]>]claim is:
]>]
]>]Republicans=Conservatives=True Americans vs. Democrats=Liberals=Socialists.
]>
]>Limbaugh is NOT saying this.
]
]Sorry to burst your bubble on this one, but indeed he HAS said this on at least
]four recent shows, the latest being on Thursday 8/6/92 right before the second
]hourly break.  What's more, I've gotten posts over in the alt.politics.clinton
]section defending his saying this.

He is saying that "Republicans are the True Americans?" I can believe that
he made all the rest of your equations up there, but I don't think he
really claims that Republicans are the True Americans (to the exclusion
of democrats and others, as you imply).

]>As a conservative who listens to Limbaugh and who reads conservatives
]>publications, I can say that this characterization of conservative
]>rhetoric is complete bullshit! Yes, we point out that liberal politics
]>may lead to a Soviet Union. We do point out that SOME liberals have
]>an anti-american government agenda. We do NOT call them unAmerican...
]>we just consider them to be mistaken.
]>]
]
]Maybe I ought to send you a few tapes of one of our local conservative talk-show
]hosts from here in Dallas. David Gold- a well respected conservative here in
]the Dallas area has gone as far to say that Bush has to go because he isn't
]conservative enough! 

I agree with him on that. SO what?

]I also listen to both sides of the spectrum, and the feeling that I get from
]them is that the rank-and-file liberals have that anti-government agenda that
]you speak of.  Also, calling someone a Socialist is pretty much calling him
]un-American in my book, especially when taken in the context that it was spoken.
Well, if someone advocates socialist policies, why can't we call him a
socialist? That does not mean he is unamerican, just deluded.
]>
]>Chill out, dude! No one is calling you a card carrying commie. You
]>must have have one hell of an imagination.
]
]Problem is, that I *have* been called that by a few members of the far right.
]And before you ask, is was not at any official function of any side, but at
]a private party that I and a few friends got into a rather heated discussion
]with a few members of opposing viewpoints.

Sure, and I have been called a Nazi... in fact, it is quite common for
the Nazi allusion be used about conservatives. Look at the campaign
to associate republicans with Nazi'ism through David Duke (who is, in fact,
a NAZI, not a conservative).

Come on... a few examples are not sufficient to characterize an entire
group. Of course, there are a few right wingers who might call you
a communist (although card carrying is sort of silly unless you show
a card). There are left wingers who call me a Nazi.

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