From: jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins)
Subject: Re: Don't tell the Anti-Hunters
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:03:02 GMT

In article <BvvHv1.InE@wpg.com> russ@wpg.com (Russell Lawrence) writes:
>From article <1b4hfpINN2j8@agate.berkeley.edu>, by linan@argon.berkeley.edu (M
ike Linan):
>ml> Again you are confused.  If "witchs" were killed a few short centuries
>ml> ago, those who killed them either wrongly claimed to do so in the name
>ml> of God or they misinterpreted the word of God since you will not find
>ml> God saying witches should be killed in the New Testament.
>
>Is there a passage in the New Testament where God says that it's
>ok for you to hunt deer with high-powered rifles?  Or raise chickens
>in tiny, tiny coops?  Or use chimps in medical experiments?
>
>--
>Russell Lawrence, WP Group, New Orleans (504) 443-5000
>russ@wpg.com   uunet!wpg!russ

Umhumm, please be consistent Russell, that's "god," not God.  Is there
a passage in the New Testament where it's said not to be ok to do these
things?  Perhaps it is possible that the answer to every ethical question
is not found in the bible.  As your tendency is to go round and round and
round I think you should reread the following--it is definitive
and leads me to wonder about the value of your question at the end:
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>rl> Again, let's consider a statement and a question:
>rl>
>rl>  -   "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."
>rl>  -   "Why don't hunters hunt hunters?"
>rl>
>rl> Why would someone be willing to accept the first statement on "faith",
>rl> yet be quick to dismiss the second question as "idiotic"?
>
>wc> The first statement was made in the Old Testament which to
>wc> Christians is neccessary to understand the significance of a
>wc> Messiah.  However it outlines a covenant God made with the Jews
>wc> before the coming of Jesus of Nazareth (who I will for
>wc> convenience call Christ).  After Christs' crucifixion a new
>wc> convenant was made for all people.  References to the new
>wc> covenant (contained in the New Testament) about witches are
>wc> outlined in Galations 5:20, the general gist of which is that
>wc> witches are not allowed to the Kingdom of Heaven.  The first
>wc> statement is not necessarily valid to Christians.  Another point
>wc> is that finding a statement in the Christian Bible does not mean
>wc> that it's followers accept it.  Another example of that is
>wc> extra-marital sex (Mathew 5:27-28) and it's practice in the
>wc> modern day, but that discussion is for another newsgroup.
>wc>
>wc> The second statement dealing strictly with hunters is murder.  To
>wc> me it seems to say that human hunters should hunt other human
>wc> hunters.  Unequivocally murder in my eyes.  I concur that this
>wc> statement is idiotic as it advocates murder of human beings.
>
>Was god behaving idiotically when he said: "Thou shalt not suffer
>a witch to live?"   Would you be inclined to say that the many,
>many christians who participated in the killing of heretics and
>witches during the middle ages and renaissance periods were also
>behaving idiotically?
>Russell Lawrence, WP Group, New Orleans (504) 443-5000
>russ@wpg.com   uunet!wpg!russ


Again, that's "god," not god.  And please, supply a New Testament
bible verse that states that one who belongs to a religious
organization which had a lamentable past of violent zealotry based
upon a misinterpretation of the supposed spoken word of God, forever
thereafter relinquishes the right--according to your logic--of branding
a statement such as "hunters hunting hunters" as idiotic.