From: benning@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
Subject: RE: Vulnerable victims
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:45:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: abvax.9204151801.AA03798

> "Bruce BENNING,"  <abva>x!iccgcc.decnet.ab.com!BENNING> writes:
>
>|>
>|>  Your brother-in-law and sister are the son's who said they would
>                           [ sister-in-law ]
>|>  not work in the vineyard, but changed their minds. They have now
>|>  entered the kingdom of G-d. I suspect they don't share your grief
>|>  over their new citizenship. They probably thank G-d that someone
>|>  cared enough to tell them about Yeshua, when they were vulnerable
>|>  and in need of His mercy and grace.
>|>
>Those of you who have heard me tell this before will please
>forgive the repetition.
>
 My apology for not listening close enough Rob.

>My brother-in-law was 20 when he converted to Christianity.
> [....]  Over a period of several
>months, he kept telling his little sister that
>she would burn in hell forever unless she promised
>to believe in Jesus.  After several months of that,
>she promised.  Some caring.

   The message is true, though the technique is rough.
   Did you ask your brother-in-law why he did this, and if he has
   any regrets? Have you asked him not to speak to your children
   regarding Messiah Jesus?
    I agree with the one poster who said that there are more
   positive things about Yeshua to tell someone. There is no real
   need to SCARE someone into heaven through the revelation of
   hell.
   Yet, all of the combined efforts of those in Messiah who share
   our testimonies are in fact communicating the same message:
       " REPENT and Believe or you will perish."
   Sorry, but that is what Messiah said.
   Jesus said "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes
   to the Father except through Me."
                        -- Bottom Line --
    "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only
    Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have
    eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to
    condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
    Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does
    not believe stands condemned already because he has not
    believed in the name of God's one and only Son. This is the
    verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved
    darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
    Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come
    into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
                                                -John 3:16-20

   This is a harsh reality, I agree. However, if a friend of mine
   drinks and drives, I will do what I must to help him. Even if it
   involves taking him to a hospital to see accident victims, or
   get him a conference with a local chapter of M.A.D.D. to talk to
   mom's who lost children to drunk drivers. Have you ever heard
   of CONFRONTATIONS that are used to -guilt- people off drugs and
   alcohol? We are not talking about drug addicts but sin addicts.
>
>When my wife's brother and sister grew up and married
>(non-Jews), and my wife and children met them at family
>gatherings, my wife's brother and sister and their
>spouses would seek opportunities to find my children
>(then of toddler age) and when they were alone
>with them would tell them that JESUS WAS WATCHING
>THEM ALL THE TIME AND COULD READ THEIR THOUGHTS
>and that they would burn in hell if they didn't
>believe.  Some caring.
>--
>Rob Strom, strom@watson.ibm.com, (914) 784-7641

  It is true that the Lord is watching us all the time. And it is also
  true that He reads out thoughts. I've already commented on the burn_in_
  hell portion above.

  < Perhaps you have never read: >

  Psalm 139:1-12 For the director of music. Of David. A psalm.
  O LORD, you have searched me and you know me. You know when
 +I sit and when I rise; you perceive my thoughts from afar.
 +You discern my going out and my lying down; you are familiar
 +with all my ways. Before a word is on my tongue you know it
  completely, O LORD. You hem me in--behind and before; you have
  laid your hand upon me. Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
  too lofty for me to attain. Where can I go from your Spirit?
  Where can I flee from your presence? If I go up to the heavens,
  you are there; if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.
  If I rise on the wings of the dawn, if I settle on the far
  side of the sea, even there your hand will guide me, your right
  hand will hold me fast. If I say, "Surely the darkness will
  hide me and the light become night around me," even the darkness
  will not be dark to you; the night will shine like the day,
  for darkness is as light to you.

            ****** Or how about this one ******
  Psalm 94:8,9,11 - Take heed, you senseless ones among the people;
  you fools, when will you become wise?  Does he who implanted
  the ear not hear? Does he who formed the eye not see?
  The LORD knows the thoughts of man; he knows that they are futile.
                      *** and ***
  Prov 15:3 The eyes of the LORD are everywhere, keeping watch on the
  wicked and the good.

  Not to mention the same types of references in the prophet's.
  ===> THE FEAR OF THE Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
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         Bruce Benning __________ benning@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com

          -------------Religion may inform and reform-------------
          ----------but only Messiah Jesus can Transform----------


  Psalm 11:4 The LORD is in his holy temple; the LORD is on his heavenly
  throne. He observes the sons of men; his eyes examine them.

  Psalm 14:2 The LORD looks down from heaven on the sons of men to see if
  there are any who understand, any who seek God.

  Psalm 53:2 God looks down from heaven on the sons of men to see if
  there are any who understand, any who seek God.
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