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From: drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Keith Rice)
Subject: Re: ARABS - TERRORISTS
Organization: University of North Texas
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:03:54 GMT


Any more discussion on political issues should be directed to another
newsgroup (i.e., alt.politics, etc.) or, better yet, /dev/null!

KEEP IT OFF ALT.FAN.LETTERMAN!!!!!!!!

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,alt.fan.letterman,misc.test,talk.bizarre
From: mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (John P. Mechalas)
Subject: Re: ARABS - TERRORISTS
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 03:48:00 GMT

In article <nabeel.716523056@oracle.sce.carleton.ca> nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan) writes:
>
>   This terrorism is caused and encouraged by the American
>"peacefulness" that USA tried to export to V'nam, Iraq,
>Granada, Panama, and everywhere else.

Kinda like the "peacefulness" Iraq spread to Kuwait? 

-- 
John Mechalas                                          "I'm not an actor, but
mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu                                 I play one on TV."
Aero Engineering, Purdue University                     #include disclaimer.h
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein)
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC WORLD NEWS (28th)
Organization: NYSERNet, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:33:09 GMT

ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen) writes:

>In article <3747@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh) writes:
>>In article <EXILE.92Sep7110036@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu> exile@gnu.ai.mit.edu writes:
>>>
>>>in fact, i believe that the israeli-palestinian problem will be
>>>greatly alleviated if all participants immediately fucked each other
>>>in the line of a new jersey mcdonalds.
>>
>>Unfortunately only one side has been - and it wasn't in new jersey
>>or in a mcdonalds.
>>
>>The problem is how we can retain our dignity after such an ordeal
>>and when the other side is willing to part with its imhumanitarian
>>actions.

>True,  but the PLO, et al has not recinded its stance on terrorism, it hasn't
>agreed to officially admit that Israel even has the right to exist.  The
>Infatada is still a VIOLENT revolt that claims more lives every day.  Of 
>course when the PLO kills an Israeli school girl they are hero's.  When the
>IDF shoots a WB youth with a rifle they are murders.  

>The PLO has said for years (since '67)  first the WB then the rest of Israel.
>Have they officially changed their position? NO.  Do they continue to 
>declare war on Israel? Yes.

>Gee, those stubborn Israeli's.  The PLO, Syria, ect... say give back all the
>territories we lost when trying to destroy you.  Then we will decide if we
>are to give you peace or continue to try destroy Isreal. I think I'm going to go
>to the local Ferrari dealer, ask them to give me a new Ferrari after I own it
>then we can negotiate on whether or not I feel like paying them.

>>
>>If their minds weren't on such things, we could get some real solutions
>>resolved.

>Yes if the PLO et al didn't concentrate on the best way to attack
>Israel beaches, schools, shopping centers, perhaps someone might believe they
>were sincere in the peace process

>>
>>-sigh-

>yes, sigh

>>
>>Anisa
>>


>-- 

>>
>Ron Feigen
>ronf@panther.mot.com

You don't really want to confuse too many people by bringing them
back to reality, do you Ron?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: mouradf@dhhalden.no (MOURAD FARAH)
Subject: Sister
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:04:49 GMT

Hi was impressed by your rapid answer??
im was born in Africa...
From: naraht@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Randolph J. Finder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: net connections in Arab World
Date: 5 Sep 92 04:26:15 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

I am looking for how much computer connection the Arab world has to the
rest of the net. A friend of mine told me that there are more net sites
in Israel than in the entire Arab world?


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,alt.butt.harp
From: rayes@Snake.mcs.kent.edu (Sandra Rayes)
Subject: Re: Muslim students of humanities
Organization: Kent State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 06:51:19 GMT

In article <11204@crackers.clearpoint.com> martillo@nero.clearpoint.com (Joachim Martillo) writes:
>
>An excellently Freudian slip.  You just said religion is something at
>which lazy stupid people excel.  I can agree with such a sentiment --
>which is why I despise Abrahamic religion in all its putrid and
>revolting forms.

I've seen many an expression of contempt on your part toward Abrahamic
religion, Joachim.  My question is: Why this profound hatred and
distrust of this form of religion and what exact religious philosophy
*do* you trust in?  No intentions to flame, I'm simply curious to
know where your bitterness comes from.

Sandra.

PS--since such a discussion (should you want to answer it) would
    extend beyond the SCA description--you can email me a response.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen)
Subject: Re: Clinton and the Mideast
Organization: Motorola Panther Project, Chandler, AZ
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:00:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.175726.18986@usl.edu> pssres12@ucs.usl.edu (Vignes Gerard M) writes:
>	Bill Clinton promises
>	to put America back on Israel's side.
>
>	It shouldn't be too hard
>	to figure out what he means
>	by being "back on Israel's side."
>
>	If you're a US citizen,
>	please register while there's still time
>	and please get out and vote.
>
>	If you're a foreign national applying for citizenship,
>	please coax your friends who can to register and vote.
>
>	Don't just stand by doing nothing,
>	and let Clinton turn the clock back to the Carter years.
>
>-- 
>
>pssres12@ucs.usl.edu	Gerard Vignes, USL PO Box 42709, Lafayette LA 70504 USA
>

If it hadn't been for the Arab oil embargo the Carter years look pretty good.

Carter was the Environment president.  He was mindful of both Business and
our environment.  He started an Alternitive Energy Commision (with Regan
promptly killed), to prevent us from being dependent on either oil or
atomic energy.

Carter built up the US military (started th B1 bomber, rapid deployment force,
and Patriot missle programs, which Bush was so proud of in Desert Storm)

Carter kept the budget and deficit in line,

Carter was very pro-civil rights

Carter was pro-education (not just talk.  Bush last week congratulated the Jobs
corps students, saying how great a program it was.  Of course Bush has also cut
thier budget by 42%.

Carter would HAVE NEVER screwed up and given Iraq all it's military toys.

Carter would NEVER deal under the table with Syria (we let Syria take over 
Beruit, and Syria helps us get out of Bush's Iraq disaster).

-- 

>
Ron Feigen
ronf@panther.mot.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Subject: Re: Jordan and Lebanon in "Islamic World News" 11th(?)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:40:46 GMT

Jordan:
   The so-called "Islamic ..." newsletter talked about arresting
the two Jordanian MPs Qarrash and Shbailat on charges of
simplifying attacking Israel etc. This is plain falsehood since
no Jordanian goverment or other said so, and other MPs are on the
way to prison! The fact is that the "security" charges those
of involvement with Iran and others to form armed groups for
sabotage inside the Jordanian dictatorship! However, most
Jordanians "know" that in fact this is a step to kill Islamic
Movements before next elections next year, a step more well
done than its Algerian counterpart.

Lebanon:
   The newsletter men were happy about the results of the
Lebanese "elections" because the two Shiite parties patronaged
by Iran/Syria made advances. And claimed that Christians etc.
do not like this product of "elections". Are you serious guys?
What free elections can be done under the Syrian occupation?
The Syrian chief of Intelligence in Lebanon is more powerful
than the Lebanese President and he "advises" that this high
ranking military officer be removed and that be placed!

   This newsletter should be named "Iranic World News" since
it stands by the side of the malicious Jewish Shiite Iranian
system that is trying to spread "Islam" to the rest of the
region. How the hell does this system befriend with the
atheist Syrian system? This is the question!

**Nabeel
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.afghanistan
From: C585374@mizzou1.missouri.edu (ashok paulose)
Subject: Re: CALL OF THE QUR'AN TO THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 16:05:06 CDT

In article <1992Sep4.104442.11642@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
 
irfan@wiener.ece.wisc.edu (Irfan Alan) writes:
 
>THE CALL OF THE QUR'AN TO THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK
>
>
>(Especially for Christians)
 
>
>STATEMENT OF INTENTION
>
>
>This call of Qur'an has been propagating for more than 14 hundred years.  We,
>
>of seasons, food and costumes need to be changed.  Also the methods for
>educating a person change in accordance with his age.  A certain kind of
>medicine may also be a fatal poison for one while it heals another.  So, too,
>such details which harmonize human life and mind with the requirements of the
>time are rightly and reasonably subject to change.  For this reason the Qur'an
>has changed some details of the previous religions and prepared the humankind
>for a new and final quest -a quest that of fulfilling the purpose of creation
>in its full potential, that is, establishment of complete justice and answering
 
You have written a lot, but as you say the times have changed and people
have become more aware of the stupidity in Islam  and they like laugh at
those who still cling on to outdated ideas that abound in Islam.You could
try and learn a little from other religions and a lot of commonsense.
I would suggest you attend church become a Mormon or something close to
Islam so that your mind is not too shocked by the sudden avalanche of
truth dawning on it  all at once.Just remember this ,and keep repeating it
so that you don't forget--"there is no allah but God".Now , when the truth
finally comes to you don't go to your house and kick your father for teaching
islam when you  was a kid cause you must realise that the truth hasn't dawned
on his poor grey hairs yet.You teach him some Christian wisdom ,don't forget
your neighbours too, after all you must love your neighbour like you love your
self(now what has  allah got to say to that Huh!).
God be with you my son, and your poor father (bless his grey hairs)
Yours sincerely
Kunnath Paulose (convictions built on rock).
 
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000)
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC WORLD NEWS (28th)
Organization: LC
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 18:47:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.005943.555@nysernet.org> astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein) writes:
>jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000) writes:
>
>> ARAFAT JUST BOWED HUMBLY AND HUMPLY FOR ISRAEL, AND RECOGNIZED 
>> ITS RIGHT TO EXIST.  WHAT AN IGNORANT STATEMENT YOU JUST SAID! ARAFAT IS
>> LOGICALLY KISSING ISRAEL'S APPROVAL FOR NEGOTIATION.  ARAFAT 
>> IS STILL WILLING TO KISS iSRAEL'S BEHIND. 
>
>Funny how I missed that.  I've heard about him telling some that he
>said it, and telling others that he hadn't, but I never heard about
>him actually saying it.

Apparently you don't follow news, have a short  memory, or live in denial.
A couple of years ago or so, Arafat did so.  The first day the US said
that his  statements were not clear, the next day he was clearer on
the issues of recognizing Israel on Occupied Palestine, and on
renouncing terrorism. And accordingly the US opened dialog with the PLO.

I hope you can do a little more research before throwing such
senseless statements at us.

jle

>
From: dlee@usc.edu (ROGER DAVID CARASSO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: ARABS - TERRORISTS
Followup-To: soc.culture.arabic,alt.fan.letterman,misc.test,talk.bizarre
Date: 14 Sep 1992 18:44:53 -0700
Organization: ROGER DAVID CARASSO
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


TERRORISTS, TERRORISTS ALL OF THEM.


Arab from East Jerusalem Arrested On Suspicion that He Injected
Toxic Chemicals into Food Products at a Grocery Store in Jerusalem

Today's YEDIOT AHRONOT reports that a 21 year-old Arab from East
Jerusalem who worked in a grocery store in the western part of the
city was arrested on suspicion that he injected toxic chemical
substances into many packages of different food products. The
police suspect that he is part of a team which set out to execute
a mass poisoning of Jewish residents of the city. The newspaper
reports that more arrests in the affair are expected. Five weeks
ago, the police received information which led them to the grocery
store where the Arab had been working. After suspicion was
verified, announcements were made on the radio asking anyone who
bought food in that store not to eat it, but return it immediately.
The suspect was investigated and admitted he was injecting the
chemicals. The substances he used are considered to have the
capability of causing severe physical harm if taken above a certain
amount.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein)
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC WORLD NEWS (28th)
Organization: NYSERNet, Inc.
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:59:43 GMT

jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000) writes:

> ARAFAT JUST BOWED HUMBLY AND HUMPLY FOR ISRAEL, AND RECOGNIZED 
> ITS RIGHT TO EXIST.  WHAT AN IGNORANT STATEMENT YOU JUST SAID! ARAFAT IS
> LOGICALLY KISSING ISRAEL'S APPROVAL FOR NEGOTIATION.  ARAFAT 
> IS STILL WILLING TO KISS iSRAEL'S BEHIND. 

Funny how I missed that.  I've heard about him telling some that he
said it, and telling others that he hadn't, but I never heard about
him actually saying it.
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein)
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC WORLD NEWS (28th)
Organization: NYSERNet, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:35:08 GMT

jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000) writes:

>Yes, according to logic, Europeans don't have the right to come to
>Palestine, kick its natives out, take their homes, land, cows, horses,
>and name it Israel.

They didn't.

First of all, what had been Israel was at some point referred to as
Palestine.  Calling it Israel again just restores the status quo ante.

Second of all, natives weren't kicked out, homes weren't taken, etc,
etc, etc.  Land was purchased at exhorbitant prices from Arabs
interested in making big bucks from largely unused, and sometimes
virtually unuseable, land.  For example, according the the US Dept of
Agriculture, "in 1944, Jews paid between $1,000 and $1,100 per acre in
Palestine, mostly for arid or semi-arid land;  in the same year, rich
black soil in Iowa was selling for about $110 per acre."

I'd hardly call that kicking the natives off their land!

>The PLO calls for all of the above to be returned
>to its owners, and the return of the owners, which means exactly not
>recognizing the theft existence of the state of israel.

Correct;  what it means is absolutely nothing.

>  However,
>when Arafat did recognize the state of israel, he showed a sign
>of surrender.

Arafat himself denied he ever did any such thing.  On Libyan
television on July 19, 1991, Arafat said "No, no, no!  We do not
recognize Israel."

Are you calling Arafat a liar?


>If Arafat could defeat israel now, he wouldn't wait a second.

You've finally said something that was true.  That's why he's using
his strategy of stages.

>  But
>by recognizing israel's right to exist on 80% of his land, he's telling
>the UN that he surrendered, and is willing to settle for 20%.

When are you going to acknowledge what the terrorist himself said,
that he did not such thing?  And are you saying that Arafat has not
only recognized Israel's right to exist in its present borders, but
also has the right to most of what's now Jordan?  Obviously, since
Jordan controls about 3/4 of Palestine, Israel can't exist on 80% of
Palestine without taking over most of what's now Jordan.

>It is in Israel's advatage to take arafat's offer seriously, this way
>they can get him to sign UN papers of giving up 80% of Palestine 
>(which makes up israel).  If they don't I am afraid that Islamic
From: pmf$1349@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Jordan and Lebanon in "Islamic World News" 11th(?)
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:08:04 GMT
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University

In article <nabeel.716514046@ra.sce.carleton.ca>, (Nabeel Ghuzlaan) writes:
> Jordan:
>    The so-called "Islamic ..." newsletter talked about arresting
> the two Jordanian MPs Qarrash and Shbailat on charges of
> simplifying attacking Israel etc. This is plain falsehood since
> no Jordanian goverment or other said so, and other MPs are on the
> way to prison! The fact is that the "security" charges those
> of involvement with Iran and others to form armed groups for
> sabotage inside the Jordanian dictatorship! However, most
> Jordanians "know" that in fact this is a step to kill Islamic
> Movements before next elections next year, a step more well
> done than its Algerian counterpart.

Most "Jordanians" do not believe in sabotage.  Moreover, Islam is not
a violent religion.  Political groups should not use Islam to play with
people's emotions and disturb the peace in order to get to power.
Please do not use your personal views as a generalization for Muslims
or Jordanians.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.arabic:3687 alt.fan.letterman:826 misc.test:10824 talk.bizarre:30281
From: rcmolden@parmesan.cs.wisc.edu (Robertc. Moldenhauer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,alt.fan.letterman,misc.test,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: ARABS - TERRORISTS
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:52:59 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

So what does Dave Letterman think of Palestine, Israel and Terrorism?
exit
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein)
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC WORLD NEWS (28th)
Organization: NYSERNet, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:07:22 GMT

wmuhanna@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waleed A Muhanna) writes:

>>As for the WB and Gaza, Israel has been trying to give it back since
the 70's.  >

>Unadulterated stinking hogwash, an insult to the intelligence of the readers
>of this newsgroup.  Either you are completely misinformed or willfully lying.
>Now which is it, Ron?

Perhaps he's telling the truth, which you are reluctant to hear?


>And don't be so quick to mention the "Alon Plan" which, like the Shamir 
>(and currently Rabin) plan, seeks to perpetuate Israel's control over the 
>land and water and represents a desparate attempt to legitimize Israel's 
>military occupation and denial to the Palestinians their right to 
>self-determination.

How clever of you, to disallow definitive proof that you're wrong in
advance.

The simple fact of the matter is that almost immediately after the '67
war, Israel tried to return the territory it won in return for peace,
but was greeted with the famous three nos of Khartoum:  No recognition
of Israel, no negotiation with Israel, no peace with Israel.

Since then, Israel has obviously grown some more ties to Judea and
Samaria, but has not only repeatedly offerred territorial compromises
in that area, but has repeatedly offered to completely leave the Gaza
Strip, to which it has no emotional or historical attachment.  Had
Sadat accepted it back over a decade ago, the history of that area
would be seriously different.  And there are reliable reports that in
the current negotiations, Israel has once again offered to completely
leave Gaza almost immediately, but has been turned down.

>The UN Human Rights Commission has long characterized Israeli occupation as
>``a fundamental violation of the human rights of the civilian population of 
>the occupied territories.''  It also found a number of Israel's practices 
>in the occupied territories to constitute *"war crimes"*.  Yes, war
>crimes.

Since the UN declared that "Zionism is Racism," no unbiased observer
can possibly take any stand a UN agency takes seriously.  You're going
to have to do a little better than that!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Subject: Jordan: Back to the Microwave Oven?
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:58:17 GMT

   The Jordanian Parliamentary elections are one year away and the
"government" is "preparing" and starting its "campaign".

   The government campain - like that about to start in Free
Kuwait - aims to ensure citizens "freedom" and "wisdom" in electing
the "responsible" and "appropriate" candidate. Right! By removing
the "vicious" candidates from the scene. How?

   It started by "suddenly" discovering an armed organization 
headed by Yacoub Qarrash, an independent "Islamist" MP. This
organization is funded by Iran and trained by A. Jibreel's
organization. (An Islamic Organization funded by Shia and trained
by seculars/athiests/communists!) A day after, the "involvement"
of another idependent "Islamist" MP with Iran was discovered.
These discoveries happened while the Jordanian Monarch was in
U.S.A. for surgery. He was surprised by this, but did he plan for
this surprise before it happened??? Fact is, no Jordanian official
can go to the washroom without the knowledge and permission of
the Jordanian (???) Monarch. 

   Very soon after, an other armed netword was "discovered" with
the "involvement" of the "Extemist Islamist" wing of "Muslim
Brothers". What is the "Extremist Islamist" wing of MB? It is
the "Islamist" MPs of Palestinian origin. Excellent! Department
of General Intelligence, playing the Jordanian-Palestinian tune
again. 

   I do not know yet if they were satisfied by those two fractures
of Secular-Islamist and Jordanian-Palestinian or the "security"
soon will (if not already) discover a third armed network of the
"Moderate Islamists". Later with the "Arabists" etc.?

   If you think a one-year-old Jordanian baby will believe the
"security" stories, you are underestimating Jordanian babies.

   Can the "security" rekindle its past glory? Can they distrust
the (already useless and automatically disabled in critical
decision making) Parliament and cancel elections? Can Jordanians live without food and without freedom? Time is the judge, and
this judge has never been fair!

Arabic Papers.
From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Are Algerian people ARABIC ?????
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:10:53 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <MALEK.92Sep7201445@robroy.pi.titech.ac.jp> malek@pi.titech.ac.jp (Zidouri Abdelmalek 03/95) writes:
>

Explanation to question deleted for space ...

>	Anisa> but we are all brothers (and sisters), right?
>        
>        right.
>
>	Anisa> Anisa

:-)

>--
> Malek.
> 
> "We cooperate in what we agree on, and forgive each other for that
>  in which we disagree." Hassan El Banna.

How wonderful to see someone quote from such a pure and holy person -
may Allah bless him alf barakatu, insha'Allah ....

Anisa
 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: hermi@shape.mps.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Test 8
Date: 10 Sep 1992 00:34:31 -0400
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
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