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From: Jim Rosenfield <jnr@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Date: 05 Oct 92 21:35 PDT
Subject: Re: 9/22 News Stories on Hunger
Nf-ID: #R:cdp:1471700135:cdp:1471700141:000:1313
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!jnr    Oct  5 21:35:00 1992


/* Written  9:33 am  Sep 24, 1992 by jnr in cdp:hunger.general */
You should bear in mind that journalists may be deeply offended by
a demand that they try to influence or shape the outcome of events -- e.g.
downplay the difficulty of the relief task in order to "put a 
hopeful face on it".   They see themselves as honest brokers...simply
reporting what they see.  Ask them to report on successes as well as
the difficulties in order to make a balanced presentation.  I would like to
see more exploration of the phenomenon of globally coordinated relief
efforts -- how they've become more sophisticated.  Also, why did
the relief efforts take so long to get going?  They should explore our covert racism.
They should explore the public conversation for resignation in the face
of this famine.

Efforts to get reporters to presnt one view or another to get an outcome
will probably fail.  But calls for a full exploration, all sides of
a story, or even a novel viewpoint on a story, may get a warmer
reception from the press.

I will take these points up with Mike Hiltzik, the L.A. Times reporter
on Africa and the Somali crisis.  I am also open to requests or recommendations
for action from you and other readers.  I woudl very much like to know
if other "hunger.general" readers are in action on this front.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta)
Subject: Angola: See what Savimbi is up to now (was Re: Great Victory in 
Organization: Indiana University, Department of Mathematics.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:43:04 GMT

In article <5OCT92.21013832@edison.usask.ca> f54oguocha@edison.usask.ca writes:
[....]
>Boy, come off it! The millions were spent to bring democracy to Angola. Why did
>you fail to tell us how much Cuba and the estwhile USSR threw into the rat race
>to sustain communism in MPLA-controlled Angola? Again, your statistics is bia-
>sed. Tell us the other side of the story!!! 
[.....]
>Oguocha

Plain Bullshit! These right-wing religious ideologues are a pain in the neck,
not to mention other places! 

FYI, Savimbi used to get his funding from the socialist countries too while 
fighting the Portuguese! He is a first-rate opportunist!

Anyway, see what your god Savimbi is up to now:

From the AP:

   Election Fraud Claim Raises Fears   
     Of Renewed Fighting In Angola     
                 ---
    LUANDA, Angola - The former rebel
group UNITA pulled its troops out of
Angola's new united army Monday and
demanded a review of elections that its
civil war foes are winning.
    The move raised fears that UNITA
leader Jonas Savimbi will reject re-
sults of Angola's first multi-party
vote and reignite a 16-year civil war.
    The elections stemmed from peace
accords last year.
    Savimbi has claimed widespread
fraud in the election, which was held
last week and was supervised by 800
international observers under the aegis
of the U.N.
    The U.N. has said it will wait for
final results before ruling on the
voting, but most observers said the
elections were fair.
    The latest count with 86% of
polling stations reporting had
President Jose Eduardo dos Santos,
Marxist-turned-reformist, ahead with
51.5% to Savimbi's 38.8%.
    Gen. Arlindo Chenda Pena of UNITA,
the National Union for the Total
Independence of Angola, announced he
was withdrawing the group's troops just
a week after he assumed command of the
new Angolan forces.
    He called for an election review
and an end to the release of further
results.
    Just hours earlier, UNITA Secretary
General Paulo Aliceres Mango called on
the National Electoral Council to stop
publishing election results.
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From: barnhart@gagme.chi.il.us (Mr Aaron Barnhart)
Subject: IPS: GHANA: RAWLINGS ABANDONS MILITARY FOR POLITICS
Originator: barnhart@gagme
Organization: Evanston, Illinois
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 12:15:19 GMT

Topic 864       GHANA: RAWLINGS ABANDONS MILITARY F
newsdesk        ips.englibrary  12:07 am  Sep 21, 1992

Copyright Inter Press Service 1992, all rights reserved.  Permission to re-
print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.

Title: GHANA: RAWLINGS ABANDONS MILITARY FOR POLITICS


accra, sep 18 (ips) -- the retirement from the army of ghana's
military leader, flt. lt. jerry rawlings has confirmed
speculation that he intends to contest multiparty elections
scheduled for november.

a governent statement issued late thursday night said the
45-year-old fighter pilot retired from the ghana armed
forces sep. 14.

in his capacity as head of state, however, rawlings will
remain commander-in-chief of the ghana armed forces.

rawlings' resignation has been spurred by the fact that under
the country's electoral laws, a wide range of public servants,
including the army, are obliged to resign from their posts
before they can contest an election.

rawlings is expected to contest on the ticket of the
pro-government national democratic congress (ndc) which draws
its support from the centre-left kwame nkrumah tradition.

in statement issued earlier this week the ndc head of
publicity vincent asiseh, whose party's congress is billed for
this weekend, told newspeople all 200 branches of the party had
nominated rawlings their candidate.

''we are now going to invite him to lead us and we are sure
he would accept and grace our post congress rally in cape coast
with an address to get the campaign going'', he said.

if the ndc elects rawlings, it would be the second of nine
political parties, emerging since may this year when the ban was
lifted on party politics, to have chosen him as their candidate.

the first was the egle (every ghanaian living everywhere)
party which said they had elected him as their candida86te out
love for him as a hero of the common man.

but rawlings has since distanced himself from egle, which he
described as 8''opportunistic''.

this becomes the second time that the 45-year-old fighter
pilot has retired from the army. when he led th
e armed forces
revolutionary council (afrc) government in 1979 he had been
retired by civilian president hilla limann.

however rwalings had revoked the retirement when he ousted
limann in the coup that brought him to power 11 years ago.
(end/ips/ma/tvh/oa/92)

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From: Jim Rosenfield <jnr@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Date: 05 Oct 92 21:36 PDT
Subject: Re: 9/24 Wire Stories on Hunger
Nf-ID: #R:cdp:1471700142:cdp:1471700146:000:1945
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!jnr    Oct  5 21:36:00 1992


/* Written  8:58 pm  Sep 24, 1992 by jnr in cdp:hunger.general */
 APn  09/24 1157  Somalia-Hepburn

Copyright, 1992. The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

By DIDRIKKE SCHANCHE

Associated Press Writer

NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) -- Actress Audrey Hepburn today implored the world
to aid Somalia's starving, and said after touring the nation that
nothing could have prepared her for the human suffering she witnessed.

Ms. Hepburn, who for five years has been a goodwill ambassador for the
U.N. Children's Fund, spent Sunday and Monday in Somalia and on
Wednesday visited refugee camps near the country's border in
northeastern Kenya.

At a news conference in Kenya's capital, Nairobi, she spoke of a
refugee camp near Somalia's southern port of Kismayu where no infants
were among the 20,000 survivors.

"All the babies were gone," she said.

Seasonal rains are increasing the death toll among children and others
too weak to withstand exposure to the bad weather, U.N. relief
officials said today.

The rains also have forced the delay of emergency airlift of
desperately needed food. The United States is among the nations flying
food to Somalia.

The French humanitarian agency Doctors without Borders estimates that
300,000 children under 5 -- one quarter of that age group -- already
have died.

Ms. Hepburn said "countless fragile little skeletons" sat or lay under
trees, waiting to be fed in the central town of  Baidoa.

But while famine and civil war have claimed many, "for many more there
is still time," said Ms. Hepburn.

"Only all these thousands of helping hands, only all this love, will
stop Somalia from falling off the edge of the earth," she said.

Estimates vary widely, but all aid officials agree that more than
100,000 Somalis have died, and some project that 2 million more are at
immediate risk of starving. 
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Used with permission of Associated Press
From: greg@phoenix (Gregory Nowak)
Subject: SHIRLEY STRUM NAIROBI KENYA
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: greg@phoenix (Gregory Nowak)
Organization: Baguette Research Systems Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 11:32:48 GMT



Hello, I am trying to find an email address for Shirley Strum in
Nairobi, Kenya. I would be grateful if anyone knowing her address
could contact me. 



many thanks,

greg@phoenix.princeton.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: llk@kepler.unh.edu (Local Genius)
Subject: The CIA connection...
Organization: Department of Mathematics
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 15:45:03 GMT

Could the CIA be trying to put a more human face to
its name after the fiasco of the Iran-Contra affair?

If it is true that they own the air charter service
from Miami, then one must wonder what their true
intentions are in all this...are they in this for
the money? I hope not...but at least they have made
their airplanes  available to aid agencies to help
feed the people of Somalia, in (sharp?) contrast to
what the US government seems to be doing...
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From: Dorothy Morse <dmorse@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:12 PDT
Subject: Grassroots action for Somalia
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1471700128:000:553
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!dmorse    Sep 28 17:12:00 1992


From: Dorothy Morse <dmorse>
Subject: Grassroots action for Somalia

More good news of actions for Somalia:

Luvisia Bakuli reports that at the U of Mass they have a table with
videos on Somalia, and that they circulate petitions and have a letter-
writing campaign.

Oye Productions will have a benefit disco for Somalia on November 24
at 38 Gothic Street in Northampton, MA.

Patricia Muthaura reports that a fundraising project is underway
at Mt. Holyoke.  She's looking for background information on Somalia.
Email her at pmuthaur@mhc.mtholyoke.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta)
Subject: Re: Great Victory in Angola! Savimbi loses elections.
Organization: Indiana University, Department of Mathematics.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:33:47 GMT

In article <4OCT92.20090780@skyfox.usask.ca> oguocha@skyfox.usask.ca writes:
>Hi,

[........]
>the electioneering campaign. Moreover, no man is counted righteous except 
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>by the grace of God. Anyway, let us not preach religion here. 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[.........]
>of one-party system. People like you should repent and think democracy
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[.........]

>Minority Parties!!! Long live Africa!!!! Angola must survive. May God
                                                               ^^^^^^^^
>help us all to build a better Angola and a better Africa.
^^^^^^^^^^^^

You would be well-served if you refrained from posting under the influence
of the unholy spirit! God does NOT reside on this net!

J.K.

P.S. I used to be very religious once. Like you. But now I am born again!


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From: gavan@elc.mth.uct.ac.za (Gavan Tredoux)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: ANC Leadership Wanes
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:26:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucthpx.1992Oct1.222658.26660
Organization: University of Cape Town
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

shaze@cs.ubc.ca (Scott Hazelhurst) writes:
: gavan@elc.mth.uct.ac.za (Gavan Tredoux) writes:
: 
: >We need power sharing by elites, that way everyone wins. I think I'll market
: >the idea ...
: 
: Just to clarify Gavan, in your system I suppose the trains will
: run on time. One small problem you might find is that a number
: of people before you may have patented the idea...

No, they probably won't. It'll be a mess. But not as bad as the
mess naive and ill-informed misuse of the concept of "democracy"
(a synonym for power in SA politics) can and probably will create.

So much thinking about politics is stale, *vrot* with catch phrases
and slogans. We need some innovative attempts at conflict resolution.

You do *not* resolve *serious* conflict by counting heads, only petty
differences and squables about money. Which is why majoritarian systems
only work well in countries with enough consensus to convert elections
into arm-wrestling between Teedledum and Tweedledee. 

Divided societies with frozen majorities convert elections into censuses,
by race, or ethnicity. That clearly *isn't* a fair system. 

You need to work via *consensus*.

BTW: This "Il Duce stuff" is puerile. Put an avocado in it.

Gavan Tredoux
UCT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: Re: Anywhere other than SA
Organization: -=[ Curtin University of Technology ]=-  Perth, Australia
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 07:52:06 GMT

In article <1992Sep21.134918.59039@cc.usu.edu>, sl0n5@cc.usu.edu writes:
> Is there anyway to hear from other parts of Africa, rather than just
> South Africa.  The rest of Africa is full of diverse culture and I would
> rather read about that than S. African people's flames.  I am especially
> interested in East Africa.

Ummm.  Isn't 'Straya part of Africa?

Rod
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From: Wally.Walters@p0.f20.n7101.z5.fidonet.org (Wally Walters)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: ANC Leadership Wanes
Date: 3 Oct 92 12:59:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: catpe.2524.2ACF374A
Organization: FidoNet node 5:7101/20.0 - Unisa Editorial, Pretoria


 RR> Saunders.  Will Gavan spread the net with Goldstone's main themes
 RR> or will he pick on all those Xhosas such as Pallo Jordan, Cyril
 RR> Ramaphosa, etc.

Funny, I was always led to believe that Cyril was one of the
few leading NON-XHOSAS - he hails from Venda if I remember
correctly.



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From: llk@kepler.unh.edu (Local Genius)
Subject: Anything but ... (Was Re: ANC Leadership Wanes)
Organization: Department of Mathematics
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:28:50 GMT


In article <1992Oct5.131751.23093@ucthpx.uct.ac.za> gavan@elc.mth.uct.ac.za (Gavan Tredoux) writes:
>shaze@cs.ubc.ca (Scott Hazelhurst) writes:
>
>[in response to Hardy Hulley]
>
>: 1. "campaign": is this part of your conspiracy theory? Who is part
>:    of this conspiracy? What are their motives?
>: 2. Possible explanations
>:    -- Inkatha does have the overwhelming burden of blame
>:    -- no journalist who has gone to interview Mandela has been beaten
>:       up
>
>There is overwhelming evidence of biased and unfair treatment of violence,
>and responsibility for violence by "monitoring" organizations. In particular
>the reports by Amnesty International (I was surprised too, having held the
>highest regard for Amnesty in the past), by the self-dubbed "Human Rights
>Commission" (HRC), by the "International Commission of Jurists" (actually
>hand-picked by the HRC), and by the self-styled "Community Agency for social
>inquiry" (CASE). This is easily and convincingly demonstrated.
  
[....]

>
>Gavan Tredoux
>Dept Math / Dept Philosophy
>UCT 

Sounds like the only person/organization left with any credibility is

Gavan Tredoux.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: gavan@elc.mth.uct.ac.za (Gavan Tredoux)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african,sanet.talk.politics
Subject: Re: ANC Leadership Wanes
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:32:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucthpx.1992Oct1.223206.26844
Organization: University of Cape Town
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

govender@shannon.ee.wits.ac.za (Govender) writes:
: In <1992Sep30.164224.14163@ucthpx.uct.ac.za> gavan@elc.mth.uct.ac.za (Gavan Tredoux) writes:
: 
: >We need power sharing by elites, that way everyone wins. I think I'll market
: >the idea ...
: 
: 
: heil......

Wish you'd go there.

Gavan Tredoux
UCT
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
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From: barnhart@gagme.chi.il.us (Mr Aaron Barnhart)
Subject: IPS: MOZAMBIQUE: Peace settlement crucial, warns aid worker
Originator: barnhart@gagme
Organization: Evanston, Illinois
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:25:01 GMT

Copyright Inter Press Service 1992, all rights reserved.  Permission to re-
print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.

Title: MOZAMBIQUE: Peace settlement crucial, warns aid worker


london, sep 24 (ips/moyiga nduru) -- ''if we don't have a peace
agreement by october 1 as expected, there will be a disaster in
mozambique,'' a mozambican aid worker warned here on thursday.

now on a visit to britain, agostinho chirrime of the aid charity
'oxfam mozambique', said peace talks between the maputo government
and the rebel movement of national resistance (renamo) is central
to the survival of the estimated 3.1 million people facing
starvation in mozambique.

''if peace prospects fail, we shall be seeing people dying daily
because of the difficulties of transporting food to them,'' he
said.

the combined effects of civil war and drought have left a trail
of woe for the country's 17 million people -- 60 percent of whom
live below the poverty line, according to the latest world bank
figure.

as a result, mozambique's crucial agricultural industry is in a
critical state. ninety percent of the country's population is
dependent on agricultural produce for their livelihood.

the war has also displaced three million people, forcing 1.5
million to flee to neighbouring countries -- mainly malawi and
zimbabwe.

this has led to popular demands for an immediate ceasefire.

in rome last month, president joaquim chisano and renamo leader
alfonso dhlakama came face-to-face for the first time in 16 years
and the two signed a 'declaration of intent' with an agreement to
reach a general ceasefire on oct 1. but this week's reports from
the italian-mediated talks, have not been encouraging.

a ceasefire is crucial to ensure the safe passage of food and
medical aid -- not only in mozambique -- but to landlocked
zimbabwe, zambia and malawi through the port of beira in
mozambique.

about 18 million in southern africa -- zimbabwe, zambia, malawi,
mozambique, angola, namibia, and botswana -- are in desperate need
of some four million tonnes of food aid before yearend as the
continent tries to recover from the grip of the worst drought in
the region in 50 years.

aid workers and experts are also urging other war-torn african
countries like sudan and somalia to follow mozambique's lead in
trying to reach a peaceful solution to their disputes. (more/ips)

mozambique: peace settlement crucial, warns aid worker(2-e)

mozambique: peace (2)

''i would prefer the west, especially britain, to take a leading
role in bringing about peace in africa,'' said simon maxwell of
the institute of development studies, in the university of sussex.

but even the prospects of a lasting peace settlement in
mozambique is in doubt. ''the signing of peace agreement may not
necessarily mean the end of the war,''  chirrime said. ''some
independent bandits may still pose some threat to stability.''
(end/ips/np/mn/cpg/92)

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