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From: 91287041@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca ( )
Subject: Re: Least Valuable Players (career)
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 08:49:19 GMT

In <1992Apr12.033756.1724@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:

>In article <1992Apr12.014408.6749@cs.umn.edu> lsmith@cs.umn.edu (Lance "Cogsworth" Smith) writes:
>>Um, if Alfredo is such a source of talent and leadership why haven't one of
>>these three teams held onto him? If a player is a key part of winning then
>>usually a good organization will try to keep them. 

>Now here's an interesting stat:

>Toronto gets rid of Griffin after the 1984 season:
>	In 1985, they win their first divisional title.

>Oakland gets rid of Griffin after the 1987 season:
>	In 1988, they make the World Series for the first time in 14 years.

Yeah Los Angeles picked him up...they had a good year in 88 didn't they???

>L
>Los Angeles gets rid of Griffin after the 1991 season:

If the pattern follows - TORONTO is gonna have a good year eh?  Toronto
over LA 4-1 in world series...
>	In 1992, ???

>-- 
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From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Subject: Re: Harold Reynolds
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:37:27 GMT
Distribution: na,local
Organization: A Slightly Warmer Place Than Dave Kirsch's Winter Wonderland

In <1992Apr16.152400.23175@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> todd@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Todd Pedlar) writes:

>In article <1992Apr15.210041.1@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> f67709317@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin) writes:

>>Well, let's look at it in this way:
>>  * Bill James ranks him as the 6th best AL 2B: a lot behind Alomar and
>>Franco, a little behind Knoblauch, Whitaker, and Reed, and a bit ahead of
>>Sax and Baerga.
>>  * Assets: plays great defense, is fast, durable, hits lots of doubles
>>  * Debits: no HR power, poor base stealer, eats outs like popcorn, ~32
>>years old
>>

>Anyone who thinks Harold Reynolds is a poor base stealer hasn't been paying
>much attention over the years...


Not quite.  Over the course of his career, Harold Reynolds has stolen 213
bases and been caught 108 times.  Since you have to be succesful on 66% of
your attempts for your team to break even, its clear that Reynolds has not
helped his team at all with his stolen bases.

However, it appears that Reynolds may have figured out what he was doing
wrong last year.  He stole 28 bases and was only caught 8 times.  After 3
years of hurting his team with his attempts, this is a very good sign.

Greg  
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From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Something not covered by stats (SRA?)
Date: 12 Apr 92 23:59:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, San Diego



So what are the major offensive numbers for any players? 
BA, OBP, Slugging, RBIs, HRs, SB, Sac, Runs Scored..

What about that guy in the middle of an inning who advances
the runners to make the RBI possible for the next guy??

Classic example, Saturday night's game LA vs SD. Score tied
2-2 in the bottom of the 10th. Fernandez at 1B, 0 out, Gwynn
at plate. On 3-2 pitch, Fernandez is going (after all, Gwynn
struck out swinging 19 times in ~540 ABs last season). And Gwynn
singles up the center to send Fernandez to 3rd, & Sheffield's Sac
Fly is the game-winner. 

Gwynn doesn't get an RBI, no RunScored, but that run was possible
only bcoz of that hit.

Is scoring-runners-advanced (SRA) a stat in any book??





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From: scott@asd.com (Scott Barman)
Subject: Re: Apr 9: Cubx-Phillies boxscore
Organization: American Software Development Corp., W. Babylon, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:28:11 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.183550.5443@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff) writes:
>CHICAGO       AB  R  H  RBI   PHILADELPHIA     AB  R  H  RBI

< Boxscore deleted >

Why is this person posting boxscores when we (mostly the regulars of
rec.sport.baseball) have argued this over the years and have determined
it is a waste of bandwidth considering the number of sources there are
to get these on your own?  [Is that enough of a run-on sentence for the
net.grammar.police? :-)]

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From: dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu (David M Tate)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Will Clark as a Triple Crowner?
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:16:15 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Apr15.144857.8805@wam.umd.edu> cheese@next05wor.wam.umd.edu (Jason Steinhorn) writes:

[David Tate wrote:]

>> Griffey is the only active player with a reasonable chance to be the 
>> best of all time at his position.  Yes, that would involve being better
>> than Mantle and Mays and Speaker.  No, it's not probable; it's not 
>> improbable, either.

>I'd say Cal Ripken, given another few years (and the credit he deserves),  
>could be another!

I thought of Ripken.  I honestly believe that Ripken has no chance to be
anywhere near as good as Honus Wagner.  Wagner would probably have won at
least 5 MVP awards, had they had them back then.  Wagner is the only player
in history with a reasonable claim to be as great a ballplayer, overall, as
Babe Ruth.  (Except Ruth himself, of course.)

Ripken certainly has a chance to be the most valuable shortstop since Wagner,
although the competition from Joe Cronin and Arky Vaughan is pretty stiff.

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     dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu       | Nor is not moved by concord of sweet sound
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Subject: STATS
From: vamgt0gn@VAX.CSUN.EDU
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:07:47 GMT
Reply-To: vamgt0gn@VAX.CSUN.EDU
Organization: Cal State Northridge

Does anyone know where I can get weekly stats through a sub base?
Or just via modem, alone?
In a compact, e.g., ziped, form would be the best!
thanks!
From: desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Texas Rangers Info Wanted.
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:37:06 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Univ. of Arizona...,TSN, AZ...
Nntp-Posting-User: desert

In article <29E482C1.3658@noiro.acs.uci.edu>, jaykay@orion.oac.uci.edu (R. Jayakrishnan) writes:
> In article <1992Apr9.140936.19715@news.nd.edu> dmeier@okeefe.helios.nd.edu (daniel meier) writes:
>>Can anyone tell me how the Rangers did yesterday against Seattle?
>>Thanks.
>>
>>dmeier@darwin.cc.nd.edu
>>
>>From what I saw of the score in the first game, it looks like the Rangers
>>still have offense, and still lack pitching.
> 
> 
>   The Rangers won the first game against the Mariners  12-10
>   They won the second (Brown pitching)  4-0
>   They wone the third (Guzman pitching)  13-1
> 
>   No, the pitching has actually looked good in the second and third games.
>   Kevin Brown had a complete game shutout, and Guzman went 6 innings giving
>   up 3 hits and one RBI. More importantly, Wayne Rosenthal and Terry Mattews
>   pitched 3 innings without giving up any runs !!
> 
>   So for the first time in a long long time, the team ERA is 3.00 !!
> 
>   Touchwood,... we will see how long this lasts.
> 
>   Hitting is another thing altogether. I just cant keep track of what is
					 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>   going on. Palmeiro was 3 for 3 yesterday. Palmer has one dinger each in
    ^^^^^^^^

I hear you! I hear you...!!! :)

D Man...
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From: clmn@ellis.uchicago.edu (Bill Coleman)
Subject: Re: Jerome Holtzman
Reply-To: clmn@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Department of Economics
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:35:11 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.161546.25044@adobe.com> snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes:
>
>No, no, it would have died a big, ugly, noisy death.  You see, the
>Committee for Statistical Inaccuracy probably would have forgotten to check
>and see if they wiped out a Ryan no-hitter, but eagle-eyed sportswriters
>like Jerome Holtzman would have immediately rushed to their record books
>and checked.  Once Holtzman discovered that a Great American Hero(tm) had been
>robbed, he would have started writing columns about it, just like he did
>when he discovered that the Macmillan had had the audacity to stop
>crediting Honus Wagner with 16 hits that he didn't get.
>

I don't know why Sherri is objecting so vehemently to Jerome Holtzman.  She
doesn't have to put up with his overwrought prose and sentimentalized garbage
every day.  Gee, the Tribune hasn't syndicated him, have they?

By the way, Milt Rosenberg, WGN radio's resident intellectual guru, puts
Jerome on his show several times a year.  Nights Mortimer Adler isn't available.
Holtzman is just as inane live as when he writes.  Come to think of it, though,
Rosenberg interviewed Roger Kahn last night after the Cubs game.  That was cool.



-- 
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From: dadler@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (David Adler)
Subject: Re: Camden Yards
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 02:14:22 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.215833.16128@wam.umd.edu> macole@next11csc.wam.umd.edu (Mario A. Cole) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.092926.731@dvorak.amd.com> twhite@mozart.amd.com  
>(Tom White) writes:
>>    So who hit the first homer in the Orioles' new park?
>
>Mike Devereaux...nice shot too..
>

No. Deveraux hit the first Oriole homer on Thursday night. Paul Sorrento
of the Indians hit the first homer in Oriole Park in Camden Yards on
Wednesday night.
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From: kvigen@mulato.gac.edu (Karl K Vigen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: help with rotiserie league
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:27:45 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.061841.8479@newshub.sdsu.edu>  writes:
> In the tradition of last minute preparations, I would like to
> request any suggestions of publications that have good rotiserie
> data in them (i.e. magazines with special baseball preview issues,
> or newspapers etc.).  I'm drafting for a rotiserie league this
> Saturday and have been a one team person for too long (I got
> creamed last year).
> 
> Please respond via email since the traffic on this board is
> too high for me to keep up with.

If you could, please post it, because I'd like to have it also.

K. Vigen
TWINS Rock!

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From: caw@cs.brown.edu (Christopher A. Wood)
Subject: Yankees TV Coverage
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:38:30 GMT

Does anybody know if the WPIX's deal with the Yankees has changed since
last year?  I don't have the whole season's TV schedule, but so far, I
don't think Ch. 11 has done any games (except maybe opening day), and I
noticed that this week's schedule includes only one game on Ch. 11 and
the rest (6) on MSG.  This concerns me since I can get Ch. 11 here but
not MSG.  What's the deal?

-- Chris
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Subject: Re: Park adjustments
From: rrmst3@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Roberto R Molinari)
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:45:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Apr8.151222.23610@Princeton.EDU> roger@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig) writes:
>Now, if you're going to predict team performance (by which I assume you
>mean wins and losses), you must take the park into account.  Why?
>Because of those 81 games in one park!  Remember, it takes almost an
>extra run per game to win at Fenway (slight exaggeration, perhaps); so
>if you have a team with a four-run-per-game offense, and that team plays
>81 games/yr in Fenway, you're heading for a very different win/loss
>outcome from the same team playing 81 games in Oakland.

Okay, now I'm really confused, if the point is to predict a team's record,
why do you have to adjust a team's four-run-per-game offense to 81 games/yr
when they dont play 81 games in Fenway (unless they are the Olde Towne Team)?
This is exactly the thing that I dont understand, if a team accumulated their
stats playing 81 games in their home park and the other 81 in the same parks
(except for Camden) in the previous year, why do you have to mess with the 
numbers to project what they will do playing in the same parks next year.  I
would understand the adjustment if a park changes (like when the 600 club was
added to Fenway or the fences moved in Cleveland) but other than that I just
dont see it.  


bert
- diehard sox fan (red that is)

>PS: seeya there on Easter Sun.
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  (huh?)
From: kbos@carina.unm.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Cardinal Fans Caravan
Date: 10 Apr 92 09:01:20 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Apr8.202217.18945@exu.ericsson.se> exurln@exu.ericsson.se writes:
>
>You will have to let me borrow it when I take a road trip to Houston
>to see the Birds.

Gee, I didn't know the Orioles played the Astros.  :)

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From: twhite@mozart.amd.com (Tom White)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Camden Yards
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:29:26 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas



   So who hit the first homer in the Orioles' new park?



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From: dae@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.a.elliott)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Camden Yards
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:47:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr13.215833.16128@wam.umd.edu> macole@next11csc.wam.umd.edu (Mario A. Cole) writes:

>In article <1992Apr13.092926.731@dvorak.amd.com> twhite@mozart.amd.com  
>(Tom White) writes:
>>    So who hit the first homer in the Orioles' new park?

>Mike Devereaux...nice shot too..

I thought it was Paul Sorrento of the Indians.



Dave Elliott
From: scott@asd.com (Scott Barman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Rollin' with Nolan!
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:12:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: asd.1992Apr7.191213.13181
Organization: American Software Development Corp., W. Babylon, NY

I saw this in today's (4/7) Newsday and thought it was fun (besides,
I'm waiting for a test program to finish!):

A few of the events that have occured around the world since Nolan
Ryan made his major league debut in 1966 (as a Met!):

	 4 successful North Pole expeditions
	 5 baseball commissioners
	 6 United States Presidents
	 7 notable volcanic eruptions
	 8 expansion baseball teams
	12 men on the moon
	13 Olympics (summer and Winter)
	16 new (major league) baseball stadiums
	22 Sparky Anderson managing seasons
	41 players elected to the Hall of Fame
	45 space shuttle missions

Enjoy!
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From: niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Eckersley NOT better than Fingers
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:36:13 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU

glb50263@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gary L. "Gary" Blickhan) writes:
>jlundy@bilbo.encore.com (Joe "Well, it LOOKED like a horde" Lundy) writes:
>>niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc "Ibuprofen" Nieporent) writes:

>>|> 77		14-13 3.53
>>...including no-hitter

>>[Illustrious career of Dennis Eckersley condensed:]

>Including a no-hitter...  

And a 20 win season.

>                          Does anybody remember the no-hitters of Steve Busby?

Yes.  He pitched for Kansas City.  His no hitter was mid 70's.  76, maybe?

Incidentally, you're implying that lots of mediocre pitchers pitch no-
hitters, so we shouldn't attach too much significance to them, right?
Interestingly enough, Bill James talks about this in his BB book this year.
Timely, ain't he?  He shows that the vast majority of no-hitters are
pitched by excellent pitchers.  Not that this has much relevance, really,
but I thought the article was semi-interesting, so I thought I'd mention it.

>Who?   (you say).   Same with Eckersley.   You condensed "the illustrious   
>career", forgetting to show us the Eck's truly illustrious 6-11, 4.something
>ERA with Chicago...

He had a record as a starter of 151-128, 3.67.  With 9 out of 12 years
in Wrigley and Fenway.  That sounds pretty good to me.  That career
record was compiled with some pretty bad teams.  Including Cleveland.

I hardly think one year of 6-11, 4.57 in Wrigley is enough to say a pitcher 
"SUCKS with a capital S." How many pitchers besides Clemens *don't* have 
at least one mediocre year?  Yes, mediocre.  A 4.57 in Wrigley just isn't 
that bad.  His only awful year was 1983, his 9-13, 5.61 year.

>Stop the personal attacks on people's names, I'm warning you.

Personal attacks?  Where?

>Gary Blickhan (don't mess with this name when you respond, please...)

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From: aaron@juliet.caltech.edu (Packman, Aaron I.)
Subject: Re: WHICH Is the only National League Team to win 2000 games since 69?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40    
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 09:06:00 GMT

In article <kuc7c3INN6kq@mizar.usc.edu>, pcaster@mizar.usc.edu (Dodger) writes...
>Only one team in the National League thus far has won 2000 games since
>divisional setup began in 1969.  Which team is it?
>Answer  will be posted tomorrow.
> 
My guesses, in order:

Dodgers
Reds
Cardinals
Pirates
From: actuary@NCoast.ORG (Steven M. Goldman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Interleague-play, anyone??
Date: 11 Apr 92 12:11:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: NCoast.1992Apr11.121148.21800
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH

In article <1992Apr8.185415.28666@cs.brown.edu> cs132107@cs.brown.edu (Michael Kalman) writes:
>In article <92097.151845ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
>|> In the latest Sports Illustrated baseball issue, there is an interesting
>|> article on ways to improve the game. One of the suggestions was interleague
>|> play. IMHO, it may not be a bad idea. For one thing it would put an end to
>|> this debate of the N.L vs A.L because we really would be seeing how they play
>|> against each other. There would also be more "superstar matchups" that you
>|> don't quite see or see very little of in the All-Star game. You would be able
>|> 
>|> to see two teams in the same city/state/area play each other (White Sox-Cubs,
>|> Yanks-Mets, Royals-Cards, etc.) and the rivalry would be good for baseball,the
>|> fans wouldn't have to wait for the year that BOTH teams are good enough for the
>|> 
>|> Series.You can see how Al hitters fare vs. NL pitching, what an Nl hitter woul
>|> 
>|> do in an AL stadium etc.,etc, etc...the possibilities are endless.
>|> The only thing about it is that it might take away from the World Series.
>|> I would just like to throw this idea out to everyone. Is it a good idea or a
>|> bad one?
>|> 
>|> 
>         I, for one, think its a great idea, but one which might be 
>difficult to get past traditionalists.
>         It seems ludicrous that 26 teams (soon to be 28) compete for the 
>same World Championship trophy, and yet each team sees only about half of
>its competition for it in a season.  They're supposedly playing the same 
>sport in each league, aren't they?

Personally, I'm very much in favor of interleague play. I don't like
the fact that in order to see, say, Tony Gwynn play in person, I
have to drive (from Cleveland) to at least as far as Pittsburgh.
I realize that this may not be as important as it once was, now
that cable TV and all has made it easier to watch every team play
from the comforts of one's living room, but I think that to many people,
going togames is still an important part of being a fan. I believe that
this is being hurt by not having interleague play.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: ESPN sked
From: kvigen@onza.gac.edu (Karl K Vigen)
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:06:08 -0600

In article <Adt3uly00iUx01O2ku@andrew.cmu.edu>  writes:
> Note: Does anyone else lament the fact that the three quasi-national
> local cable channels cover only National League games (Cubs, Mets,
> Braves)? I've lived in Galveston, Knoxville, southeast Ohio and
> Pittsburgh and have never seen a cable channel that was picked up
> nationally that covered an American League team. I hate that.

While there is no national cable-channel for the American League, WGN of  
Chicago did carry some ChiSox games last year.

K. Vigen, GAC

TWINS ROCK!
What a pitching staff.