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From: mcordes@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Matthew G. Cordes)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
Subject: 386 Computer System For Sale -- Good Deal!!
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:38:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

Hi!  I'm selling my Acros computer system.  I bought it about four months
ago and I have all of the manuals and boxes for it.  It has been, by far,
the best and most reliable system that I have owned.  I have had no problems
with it at all.  I am selling it because I recently bought a 486 system.
     The system that I am selling is a 386DX operating at 25 Mhz.  It has
a 120 Meg Maxtor hard drive, a high density 5.25" drive, and a high density 
3.5" drive.  The monitor is Super-VGA with .28 dot pitch.  The computer has a 
SVGA card with 512 Kb RAM.  The computer comes with 4 Megs of RAM and an
additional memory card.  It also comes with a mouse and has a mouse port.
The other ports on the computer are a parallel printer port, and two
serial ports.  It also has the usual 101 key keyboard.  It is an IBM clone
and is 100% compatible with all IBM software.
     The software that I am including is MSDOS 5.0, Windows 3.1, Norton
Utilities 6.0, and many other assorted programs and games, most of them
shareware.  I'm also including an unused Prodigy software package.
     It's a nice looking system and doesn't have any scratches or marks on
it.  The price is $950 (firm) + shipping.  
If you are interested or have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
You can E-mail or call me at: (419) 598-8982.  (after 5:30 please)
 
    Matt
 

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Matthew G. Cordes                | Ohio University College of Arts and Sciences
mcordes@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu     | Zoological and Biomedical Science Dept.
cordes@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu      | Ohio University, Athens, Ohio
From: borst@cs.utexas.edu (Christoph W. Borst)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
Subject: Supra 2400 external: $50 with cable
Date: 13 Dec 1992 04:54:11 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: saltillo.cs.utexas.edu

ale:

For Sale:

Supra 2400 External modem with rs232 cable; $50

Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
From: ELURONA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (R. Elul)
Subject: 2400 Baud Internal Modem Wanted
Organization: Yale University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 20:32:53 EST

I am looking for a 2400 Baud Internal Modem for my PC. Please send offers.
R. Elul
From: cbumg@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Christoph Bumgardner)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
Subject: MSJ, C Gazette bk issues - Wanted
Date: 17 Dec 1992 18:08:14 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.9.13




Hi -

I am looking for some back issues to C Gazette and Microsoft Systems
Journal to fill some holes in my collection - if you have any you would
like to sell, please email me.

Thanks,
Chris

-- 

	Internet:   cbumg@miller.cs.uwm.edu

Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
From: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Subject: Zenon (was Re: CompuSys, CA mail order company)
Reply-To: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:02:33 GMT

In article <CATONE.92Dec13145727@hilbert.wharton.upenn.edu> catone@hilbert.wharton.upenn.edu (Tony Catone) writes:
>
>The problem with 50 MHz is that the VESA spec only allows off board
>(slot) devices at a max of 40 MHz; thus, any 50 MHz local bus is by
>definition outside the VESA spec.  Some VESA boards work at 50 MHz
>with some VL bus motherboards, others do not; this is why the 486-66
>DX2 is usually considered a better buy for VL bus systems.

	Yeah, I read about this in a couple of magazines.  I spoke
with the reps at Zenon, and they said they haven't had any problems
with 50 mhz and 3 vl-bus systems.... (of course, what are they
supposed to say?)

[ bad experience with Zenon deleted ]
>
>I'd be interested to hear if others have had better experiences, or if
>this is just another case of ads making a company look a lot better
>than it really is.

	Well, I called them a few times, and they were okay.  They
answered the questions I had, but they had that air of "Zenon's are
better than Gateway's"...  which is to be expected.

	I actually placed an order last Sat.  They do a 72 hr burn in,
which is nice, and the rep was pretty helpful (ie he tried to work
things out to fit my schedule).  I'll let you know how it goes.

Has anybody ordered a sytem from Zenon?  If so, I'd like to know what
you thing of the system, and how their service is.  I can still cancel
my order.

Thanks

Steven Chiang                  Order - DreamGrafix:  The ONLY 16/256/3200
stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu       color paint program for the Apple IIGS.
America On_Line:  DWS Steve
Genie:  S.Chiang4              Apple IIGS Forever!
From: ah157@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rob Henry)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
Subject: WANTED: RLL Floppy card and Monochrome Graphics Card
Date: 11 Dec 1992 20:28:43 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ah157@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rob Henry)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu



WNATED

1 RLL floppy drive controller
1 monochrome graphics card
Will pay $5 for each plus shipping.
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
From: ryan@aladdin.b11.ingr.com (Ryan Waldron)
Subject: Vanilla XT-clone + misc
Keywords: XT, 40Meg, PC, drive, laser printer
Reply-To: ryan@aladdin.b11.ingr.com
Organization: Last chance XT Saloon
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:57:17 GMT

I have the following miscellaneous computer/hardware/software/whatever
for sale.  Everything is in working order, unless otherwise specified.
All items are priced with an implied "OBO", so don't be afraid to make
an offer (I won't bite).  Shipping is extra, though we might be able
to work something out.  Payment method is negotiable, though I prefer
COD (or payment in advance, of course).

Blue Chip PC XT-clone
---------------------

This thing is in excellent working condition.  There are no problems
with it whatsoever.  I'm just selling all my old stuff to try to get a
new Amiga.  :-)

Green-screen monitor
Hercules monochrome graphics card
640k mem
1 5.25" 360k drive
40 MB Micropolis HD (half-height - installed in the other 5.25" floppy bay)
200W power supply (I think)
Extended keyboard
DOS 3.1 + a little PD software
Serial mouse

$250 + shipping.

Miscellaneous Computer Stuff
============================

360k Teac 5.25" drive - $ 8
	Perfect condition when it was removed and packed up about 2 years ago.

Volksmodem 1200 baud external modem - $20
	Hayes compatible, perfect condition, original boxes and manual included

LaserPro Silver Express laser printer - $Make offer

	The printer works fine, though its HP compatibility is somewhat
	suspect (I don't have any software to really test it).  I just
	use it for a fast, quiet line printer.	The problem I have
	with it is that I accidentally made a little depression in the
	drum whilst upgrading a chip in it, so there is a little spot
	(< 1/8 ") about an inch from the left margin, spaced about 7
	inches apart (either one or two spots per page).  It doesn't
	impact the readability at all, and I don't hesitate to use it
	for letters.
		A new drum can be bought for ~$300, but I wouldn't
	know how to put it in, even if I had $300.

Please get in touch with me if you want more information.  Email is
the best way to reach me.  If the headers don't give you good info, my
address(es) are:

ryan@aladdin.b11.ingr.com

or

...!uunet!ingr!waldronr        # (don't use it unless you MUST.  It's slooooow)

If you prefer a phone call, or can't mail me, (205) 730-4150 will
reach me during the day (if I'm in).

Thanks for your time!

-- 
Ryan Waldron ||| ryan@aladdin.b11.ingr.com ||| ...!uunet!ingr!waldronr

"You read me Shakespeare on the Rolling Thames, That Old River Poet
	 that never, ever ends.
 Our Thumping hearts hold the Ravens in, And keep the tower from tumbling." -KB
From: sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen M. Lacy)
Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market,misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
Subject: SELLING: Token Ring Card for MCA
Date: 16 Dec 92 09:34:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.4f=sHKm00WBKI48nNt
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


HEY YOU! (yeah, you again)

I have a Token Ring Card for Micro-Channell that I've been trying to get
rid of, and you just might want to buy it!

Its a 4 mega-bit per second viriety.  It comes with the PS/2 option disk
and all that jazz.  Its been used for less than one year.  

Make me an offer.

Steve


"No matter what happens, never believe that you have learned something
you were not supposed to know." -Steve Lacy
From: catone@hilbert.wharton.upenn.edu (Tony Catone)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
Subject: Re: CompuSys, CA mail order company
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:57:27 GMT
	<1992Dec12.013359.23352@news.columbia.edu>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
In-reply-to: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu's message of 12 Dec 92 01:33:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.013359.23352@news.columbia.edu> stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang) writes:

	   I called about this system...  Using the DX50, you can't use
   the local bus IDE controller, and they mentioned all sorts of
   problems.  The local bus VGA controll is an s3 based... I don't think
   it's that fast.

	   I've been looking at the Zenon DX-50... it's a little more,
   but it has a faster video card and the local bus ide card works.  It's
   also a 3 slot vesa board...

The problem with 50 MHz is that the VESA spec only allows off board
(slot) devices at a max of 40 MHz; thus, any 50 MHz local bus is by
definition outside the VESA spec.  Some VESA boards work at 50 MHz
with some VL bus motherboards, others do not; this is why the 486-66
DX2 is usually considered a better buy for VL bus systems.

I'd be wary of Zenon.  They quoted me a price on two 486 EISA VL
systems; there was a typo, so the next day I called and asked them to
fax me a corrected qutoe.  The price was the same.  We wrote up the
order, then our sales rep calls us to tell us he got the prices wrong,
it would be $300 more apiece.  Since this was a done deal to us, with
our price qutoes in hand, and he was unwilling to do anything about
their error, I asked to speak to a manager.  I someone purporting to
be the head of customer support, and a surly fellow he was.  I
explained the situation, and not only was he unwilling to do anything
about the Zenon error, he also offered a barrage of excuses when I
asked him why the increase in price was so out of line with the Zenon
ads in PC Sources; those ad prices weren't to go into effect until
January, even though the ad didn't say so; the $95 for EISA was a
typo; if we didn't want to buy the systems they would sell them to
someone else, etc.  It was a very unpleasant conversation; we took our
business elsewhere, to Comtrade.

I'd write it off as just bad luck, but I had called Zenon 3 times
previous to our order; the first sales rep told me that despite their
magazine ads there was no "full scoop" he could fax me but he would
answer any questions I had, and left a few days after I talked to him,
the second time the phone never answered, and the third time the sales
droid on the phone sounded for all the world like I was imposing on
his time and he had better things to do than answer my questions about
increasing hard disk size, etc.  If a company gives you such poor
service when you are trying to buy from them, and won't even honor
their written price quotes to you, I hesitate to rely on them to make
good on any of their other comittments, like warranties of on site
service, etc.

I'd be interested to hear if others have had better experiences, or if
this is just another case of ads making a company look a lot better
than it really is.


- Tony
  catone@dmark.wharton.upenn.edu
From: gt8269b@prism.gatech.EDU (Baiju Bawra Shah)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
Subject: Need computer
Summary: PC-XT or 286
Date: 13 Dec 92 08:13:15 GMT
Distribution: atl
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


Hey folks,
	Does any one happen to know where can I find used pc-xt or 286 machine?
I need to buy for my cousin for christmas.  If you have any info you can post
if here or e-mail me @ gt8269b@prism.gatech.edu
	Thanks in advance.

					Baiju. 
-- 
SHAH,BAIJU BAWRA  
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
Internet: gt8269b@prism.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
From: gbustill@sedona.intel.com
Subject: 4SALE: 386DX-25 motherboard, 387DX, 8MbRAM
Originator: gbustill@sedona
Keywords: 386
Reply-To: gbustill@sedona.intel.com
Organization: WCDP
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:27:14 GMT


 	386 DX Motherboard 
	------------------

	386DX-25 MHz (Intel CPU) w/32K cache
	387DX-25 Mhz (Intel Co-processor)
	8Meg RAM (80ns) installed.
	AMI Bios
	8 expansion slots (One 32 bit, one 8 bit, and six 16 bit)


Asking $400 of best reasonable offer (buyer pays cod shipping).

If interested, please reply by E-mail.
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
Subject: Re: CPU chip 486DX2-66MHz forsale
From: <CHM103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 20:36:04 EST
Distribution: usa
Organization: Penn State University

In article <13058@sail.LABS.TEK.COM>, kyn@soul.tv.tek.com says:
>

>My friend he want to sale a brand new
>processor Intel E486dx2-33 overdrive processor.
>It is a real 486DX2-66MHz.
>
>Asking $650 including cooling fan, and shipping.

Be forwarned that there _is_ a difference between a 486-DX2 and the OVER-
DRIVE.  The overdrive must be used in a socket designed for it.  It has
one more pin which disables the original CPU.  You CANNOT put an overdrive
chip in a regular 486 socket.  Be careful.


Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
From: tang@venus.ycc.yale.edu
Subject: Misc computer parts for sale
Organization: Yale Computer Center (YCC)
Date: 14 Dec 92 07:53:51 EDT

I have the following items for sale:

     1     Samsung monochrome monitor                  $45.00
     1     monochrome graphics card                    $15.00
     1     2400 internal modem                         $35.00

will sell to the highest bid (shipping not included, UPS COD ground), prefer
to sell the graphics card and the monitor together. 

tang
tang@venus.ycc.yale.edu
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
From: davesum@wam.umd.edu (David Andrew Sumner)
Subject: $$-> WANTED - Motherboards <- $$
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:05:10 GMT



WANTED! Motherboards!

I need to purchase 10-20 used motherboards.  I'm particularly looking for 
386-33 and 486-25,33 boards.  However, I'll entertain offers for other types.
I also need memory chips and SIMMs of the 1 MB variety.  If you have anything
please e-mail me the following:

motherboard type
number of slots
amount of memory it holds
type of memory it holds
brand of CPU (Cyrix, AMD, Intel)


Thanks!
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone,misc.forsale.computers
From: cohen@GOMEZ.phys.virginia.edu
Subject: IBM PC (original) power supplies
Reply-To: cohen@GOMEZ.phys.virginia.edu
Organization: Dept. of Physics, University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:50:40 GMT

I have for sale 2 original IBM PC power supplies, in good, working
condition (these are the switching power supplies of the IBM PC with
the big ON/OFF switch and cooling fan).

Useful for replacing bad old power supplies, backup, or for hobby projects.

Asking $12.50 each or MAKE OFFER on one or both.

I also have the original 360K full height drives from the PC, good and
clean in perfect working condition.  If you can use those, please make an offer.

Thanks.

Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
From: u1733@cs.uiuc.edu (Ching Tai)
Subject: upgradable mother board $165 (shipping included)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:09:51 GMT

Hi,	one upgradable m/b for sale.  It can use 386DX/33 and above, all
486SX, 487SX, 486DX, Cyrix.  Has one EISA slot, 5 ISA, 1 8bit.  22.5cm *
24.5cm dimension, standard mounting holes, power, etc.  Only used a few
hours (less than 1 day), has 1 yr. warranty.

Thanks,
Ching Tai
-email ching-tai@uiuc.edu or reply to this article.
-phone (217) 332-2161

Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
From: davesum@wam.umd.edu (David Andrew Sumner)
Subject: WANTED: TOWER CASE
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:33:16 GMT


ISO Tower Case with power supply.

I've found one vendor selling them for $80.00.  If there is anyone who
can beat this, let me know.  Please direct mail to the following address:

cglenn@adelphi-lamp0.army.mil

Thanks
From: sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen M. Lacy)
Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market,misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
Subject: SEARCHING: ESDI drive (RT or PC)
Date: 16 Dec 92 09:32:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.of=sFAW00WBKI48mtG
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


HEY YOU!

Do you need money for the hardware that you have sitting around?  Well,
I'll buy it off you (and put it to good use!)  What I'm looking for:

an ESDI drive from an RT or a PC or PS/2.  
Small capicity, i.e. <=100 megs. (although if you have something big,
let me know, and maybe we can still work something out) 
Make me an offer, and I'll see what I can do for you.

I have a PC with an ESDI controller and don't have the cash to get a new
controller and a drive, and I've been told that ESDI drives made today
don't work in my machine anymore.  (they're over $1000 anyways!)

I'll pay shipping if you're out of Pittsburgh, and agree to most any
kind of conditions.  

Steve


"No matter what happens, never believe that you have learned something
you were not supposed to know." -Steve Lacy
From: ekessel@jade.tufts.edu (Eric Kessel)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
Subject: For Sale: Epson Monchrome Monitor
Date: 20 Dec 92 19:18:40 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA


Epson Apex 13" Monchrome monitor. 

Highest bidder wins....


ekessel@jade.tufts.edu
From: bu934@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Bisbey II)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
Subject: Ethernet boards
Date: 13 Dec 1992 16:18:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I have some some used Ethernet boards to dispose of as a result of the
completion of a project.  All are guaranteed.  Prices do not include
shipping.

 Western Digital WD-8003Es      $55

 NE-1000 or ACER 5220s
  (uses NE-1000 packet driver)  $45

 3Com 3C501s                    $40


Richard Bisbey
bisbey@loretta.la.ca.us
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
From: chein@eng.auburn.edu (Tsan Heui)
Subject: 386DX/40 + Printer -- $850 UP
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:05:25 GMT


I have following computer system/printer available for sale:

386DX/40 CPU with 64k cache
4 Mb 70ns RAM (expandable to 32Mb)
42 Mb 28ms IDE (Seagate) Hard disk
1 3.5" 1.44M FDD
1 5.25" 1.2M FDD
14" VGA color monitor/card
400 DPI high resolution mouse
1 mouse/1 serial/1 parallel/1 video port
FDD/HD controler included
101 Enhanced keyboard
1200 Bps External Modem

Softwares in HD: DOS5, Windows 3.1, WP51, DrawPerfect, ...

Panasonic KX-P1180 printer

The computer system is about 5 months YOUNG.
Printer was purchased new 1.2 years ago, but hardly used.
Will consider offer above $850 (plus shipping)

e

Thanks.





Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
From: hougland@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Kriss A. Hougland)
Subject: I thought business advertisements were banned
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:57:53 GMT

[stuff deleted]
Organization: Data Warp Premium BBS - Spring/Houston, TX - 713-355-6107
Reply-To: james.piper@dwarp.sccsi.com (James Piper) 


VISA/MASTERCARD/DISCOVER CARD gladly accepted!

        COMPUTER WARES, INC. ** JAMES PIPER ** PARIS, IL 61944
    (217) 465-5233 Voice 8am to 5 pm Central Time** (217) 463-1094 Fax

I think this might be a business advertisement.

Did the ban on business advertisement get lifted?


--
What rhymes with "Orange"!?

Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
From: schonert@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Juanita Schonert)
Subject: Norton Desktop 2.0 for Windows
Keywords: norton desktop windows
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 23:46:20 GMT


Norton Desktop Version 2.0 for Windwos
Unregistered
Full manuals and disks.
$50 or best offer.
d
From: platinum@montage.UUCP (Doug Swallow)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
Subject: Re: Orig. SatisFAXtion board (Intel interal Fax/Modem board)
Distribution: world
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 19:00:43 GMT
Organization: Software Environments, Inc.

> In article <1992Dec7.232151.5078@muddcs.claremont.edu> jfreeman@jarthur.claremont.edu (Jeff Freeman) writes:
> >I have one original SatsFAXtion board by Intel.  9600 baud Group III
> >compatible Fax (Send and receive).  In addition, it has a 2400 baud 
> >MNP 2-5 modem.  Requires 1 full length 8/16 bit slot.
> >
> >I have the original software for DOS.  Windows software available (don't 
> >have it yet)...
> >
> >Send offers (reasonable-- $100+ only please)
> 
> Just for the readers' info -- I've seen a number of NEW 9600S/R Fax,
> 2400 modem boards for about $70.  I know these aren't made by Intel,
> but rather "off" brands (though Zoom, Zoltrix, etc. aren't that far
> "off").  Just thought you'd like to know.

And "just for the readers' info" to correct a bit of misinformation this
"good samaritan" implied, the original Intel SatisFAXtion board includes
an on-board processor and memory buffer so that the host computer doesn't
have to do anything timely to receive or send pages. Once the board is
initialized, it can receive faxes up to its buffer size and only then does
it need software on the pc to recognize that the buffer needs to be emptied.

This board varies greatly from the typical "dumb" fax/modem. It can discern
from incoming/outgoing fax and modem calls and emulates the modem side on
a COM port, while direct I/O access to the FAX side occurs through CAS
standard functions. A software upgrade is also available to permit
Ringmaster-like multi-ringing services to be recognized, having the card
respond to only one of the incoming ring types.

--
/ Doug Swallow
|Internet:   platinum@montage.uucp     |Mail: 7927 Clubhouse Estates Dr.
|CompuServe: 75776,1011                |      Orlando, Florida 32819-5026
|Phone:      407-236-0153              |Fax:  407-352-3111

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