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From: hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose)
Subject: LC On Ethernet
Followup-To: poster
Organization: The Evil Fascist IRC Admins From Hell, Inc.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:17:07 GMT

I'm researching how to put a Mac LC onto Ethernet (probably 10-T,
*maybe* Thinnet). Now before you go hitting reply and telling me just to
go buy <insert name of your brand> ethernet card read this first.

There's an Apple-IIe card sitting in the slot. It needs to live there.
(getting a seperate machine isn't an option).

So what can I do? slot expanders? SCSI Ethernet? If either of those, any
recommendations on brands or horror stories?

I'll summarize if there's enough interest.

Thanks!

--Helen
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From: noah@apple.com (Noah Price)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Crippled IIvx ?? Not really.
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:15:10 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: (not the opinions of) Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <D2150056.kpbhen@erics.infoserv.com>, erics@infoserv.com (Eric
S. Smith) wrote:
> So what's the difference between the IIvx and
> the IIci relative to this question, and couldn't the IIvx have been
> designed to run at 25 MHz? My guess still is that the reason it wasn't
> was that such a design would have made the machine more expensive and
> therefore not price-competitive with more powerful Macs.

Well, I wasn't involved in its design, but I imagine you're basically
correct.  Slower parts are often less expensive, so the CPU/cache/FPU were
run faster for a performance edge while taking advantage of less expensive
peripheral parts.

noah

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From: cporter@bioch.ox.ac.uk (Chris Porter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: ARA modem control files
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:19:57 GMT
Organization: Department of Biochemistry, University of Oxford
Originator: cporter@newton.bioch


I need some information about how to construct a modem control file for 
Appletalk Remote Access. What I want to do is to connect two Macs connected to 
separate lines on a Starmaster PACX.

The commands I need to send are;

<break><ret>     : This wakes up the system and returns a "Which service"
                   prompt.
<Pause>          : To allow the response of the system.
T2D44DBC<ret>    : Or a similar string to say which outward line to connect to.

On the face of it this seems quite simple. The sequence above should open a line
to the listening Mac. Will this be enough to get the listening machine to 
respond? 

Any help on how to construct an ARA modem file which will do this would be 
appreciated. Also, any comments on whether this is likely to work, or 
suggestions on how to make it work better, would be gratefully received (I've 
never used ARA).

Thanks in advance,

Chris Porter
Genetics Laboratory
University of Oxford.
<cporter@bioch.ox.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: kemp@convex.com (Phil Kemp)
Subject: Re: CDROM (Philips CM100) drivers for Mac?
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 20:10:11 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <11DEC92.14495499@hal.hahnemann.edu> brennan@hal.hahnemann.edu writes:


>      I've already contacted someone at Philips (not necessarily the
>   correct person, but someone) and was informed of their MSCDEX drivers
>   for IBMs, but nothing in the way of drivers for Macs.  Does anyone
>   know if MS produced a set of CDROM extensions for Macs?  or have any
>   experience with Philips CM100's (and know a compatible driver)?

>      I've got a few of these old beasts sitting here and would like to
>   put them to use - preferably on a Mac.

You need to talk to Trantor. See my other post today on the addresses.
PK
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From: Joe_D._Ciarcia@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:35:13 EST
Subject: Re: left handed keyboards

The BAT by Infogrip Inc. has recieved several good reviews.  It is not a
conventional keyboard it that it only has 7 keys.  You type by "chording" and
it is said that you can type just as fast on one BAT as you can touch typing
on a conventional keyboard.  The BAT costs $295 for one and $495 for two. 
They have left and right hand configurations.  The only place you can buy the
BAT at the present moment is direct from Infogrip.
Infogrip, Inc.
5800 One Perkins Place, suite 5F
Baton Rouge, LA 70808
1-800-397-0921

Hope this helps,  Joe
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From: Joe_D._Ciarcia@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:51:04 EST
Subject: Re: Mac IIvx

I bought from one of those semi-glitzee places that I thought was
reputable.  CompUSA.
___________________________
In Boston Comp USA is reputable for bad service and salespeople who don't know
a thing!!!  Joe
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: pc and mac: was RE: 486 and mac benchmarks
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:06:52 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.023732.28955@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> jess@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jess M Holle) writes:

>So Windows 3.1 now allows nested messes of deleted files to be deleted
>easily.  WOW!  Several Windows gurus and I sat around trying to figure
>out how to do this easily under 3.0 without any success.

"Deleted files to be deleted"??? A little redundant no?

What kind of Windows gurus wouldn't know how to hit the Delete
key?




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From: 2fttvery@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: IIci advice
Date: 18 Dec 92 00:59:56 CST
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Dec17.134506.13373@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, hills@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Hills Matthew D) writes:
> 
> Howdy.  I am planning on purchasing a IIci soon through Berkeley's computer
> center.  Anyway, I am considering what stuff is useful to get at this
> point.
> 
> Two possible configurations:
>   Mac IIci 5/80, 16" Apple monitor w/ DoubleColor SX Graphics Card
>   Mac IIci 5/230,14" Apple monitor, 8*24 Apple graphics card
> 
> Any comments on which is better?  or on what other stuff I should get to
> get the system optimized in about this price range?  I am not into pirating
> and don't have enough money to buy tons of software and I don't collect
> graphics, so disk space doesn't need to be maximized, but I expect to use
> stuff like Textures and Think C (etc).
> 
> How worthwhile is the 16" and the graphics card in question?
> 
> (I don't need the graphics card for the 14", but extra colors... and it
> has the VRAM onboard, right?--how much speed improvement?)
> 
> 
> Thanks for any advice,
> 
> Matthew Hills
> hills@cory.Berkeley.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: wysocki@netcom.com (Chris Wysocki)
Subject: Re: Mac II + 4MB SIMMS FAQ
Organization: Connectix Corporation, San Mateo, CA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:38:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.104728.2951@acri.fr> rfortier@soft10.acri.fr (Richard W. Fortier) writes:

>What is required to install 4MB SIMMs in a (original) Mac II with old
>ROMs?  I'll want the memory to work with System 7, VM, and with A/UX
>3.0.

You need special PAL 4MB SIMMs for a Mac II or IIx.  These SIMMs have
a special ninth chip that is necessary to compensate for the fact that
the Mac II was designed before the 4MB SIMM design was settled upon.
These SIMMs are not to be confused with 9-chip parity SIMMs, which are
common in the PC world.  Also, due to a limitation of the original Mac
II ROMs, you must put the 4MB SIMMs in bank B, since bank A cannot
handle SIMMs larger than 1MB.  If you want to use virtual memory on a
Mac II, you'll also need to get a 68851 PMMU chip, which plugs into
the motherboard and provides the hardware necessary to do VM.

Chris.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.intel
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: 486 vs. Mac Benchmarks
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:21:15 GMT

In article <BzDGML.ILH@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> cbsmith@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Smith) writes:
>-- 
>Actually, Claris Resolve kicks Excel 4.0 and 123 2.0 for numerical calculations.
>Exel does win in a sorting competition. Resolve uses an updated version of WingZ.


Post your benchmark results!!!!

(I wish there were some easy way to do the same sheet in 
Improv but I haven't discovered it).




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From: brad@alpha.sunquest.com (Bradford D. Giles)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: LW II w/ 2 SCSI ports
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:20:00 GMT

SCSI portson the back?  There is another port that appears to 
have the ADB symbol above it as well. My question really amounts 
to:  is the extra port truly an ADB port, or is it a Localtalk 
port?  Unfortunately, the printer is in another city so I am 
unable to take a close look at it myself. 
Organization: Sunquest Information Systems, Tucson AZ
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  

Thanks to all who respond. 
brad@alpha.sunquest.com
From: Lester_Weiss@bmug.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Hard Drive Partitioning
Date: 18 Dec 92 09:35:36 GMT
Organization: BMUG, Inc.

Sure. Use Silverlining.  I used it to create two partitions on my Maxtor
xt-8380s.  It is real enough that either one can become the startup drive. 
Current version is 5.4, and I believe the LaCie puts it out.  There are
probably others that will do it too, but this is the one that I use...Hope
this helps..

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From: rab@bevsun.bev.lbl.gov (Robert Belshe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Goldstar monitor problem on LCII
Keywords: video monitor problem LCII
Date: 14 Dec 92 01:28:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.112.85


I have a Mac LCII with a Goldstar SVGA monitor.  It is connected 
directly to the Mac's video output with an adapter which was supplied
with the monitor.

The problem is 1 pixel size red spots which appear when the picture is
scrolled or a small area of the screen is redrawn, such as when a
pull-down menu goes away.   The spots appear randomly and the more you
scroll or redraw, the more spots!  When the screen is completely
redrawn, such as moving to the next page in Word, all spots are gone.
This looks to me like dropped bits when the system reads the video
memory.

This problem does not occur with a Apple monitor, but was observed
with an Everex SVGA monitor.

Is it possible that these monitors load the video output more than
an Apple monitor does, and could loading of the video even cause
this problem?

Has anyone else heard of this problem?
Is there any fix short of going out and buying an Apple monitor?

All replies will be appreciated.
-- 

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From: Lester_Weiss@bmug.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Older Apple 8-bit V cards
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:43:10 GMT
Organization: BMUG, Inc.

Does anyone know about the capabilities of the Apple High Resolution Video
Card?  It was manufactured 88/89, and can handle up to 8 bits.  I have been
seeing video adapters that enable your screen to show 800+x600+ res.  I
already use MAZ.  Also, does anybody ahave access to the pinouts of this card?
 I am assuming that they are different from the LC et al... Any info would be
wwelcome...

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From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Looking for a PB100
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 11:29:01 PDT
Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
Reply-To: erics@infoserv.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


Keith.Jones@macrocosm.omahug.org (Keith Jones) writes:

> Does anyone know where I could find a new Mac Powerbook 100?  Do you know the
> price.  I understand they are selling very cheap in retail outlets but I cannot
> locate one.  

Try Creative Computers in Lawndale, Calif. (L.A. area) I believe they
bought the remaining stock of PB100's. The last I heard, a couple weeks
ago, they expected stock to last until Christmas and they're selling
the 2/20 for $699, with the external floppy $100 extra. They won't ship
outside of Southern Calif. though, so that could be a problem.

> Do those run on a 000 or a 020 chip?

The PB100 uses a 16 MHz 68000.

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From: nakamura@samos.semicon.sony.co.jp (Tadashi Nakamura)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Using Color on a Classic II
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:11:45 GMT
	<NAKAMURA.92Dec14193758@samosn2b.samos.semicon.sony.co.jp>
	<dross.724359036@cs.wisc.edu>
Organization: Sony corp. System LSI group, Kanagawa, Japan.
In-reply-to: dross@cambizola.cs.wisc.edu's message of 14 Dec 92 18:50:36 GMT


In article <dross.724359036@cs.wisc.edu> dross@cambizola.cs.wisc.edu (Dan Ross) writes:
 |This Japanese company, Interware, could make a killing if their board
 |works OK.  It may be a problem if it overloads the power supply,
 |however.  (Japan uses 220V, right?  So the power supply could have a
 |higher rating since it's not the US power supply.)  US Classic II's
 |can support the math coprocessor, the RAM, and not much else according
 |to Apple.

Small correction. Japan uses "100V".


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: dlopez@shearson.com (David Lopez)
Subject: Re: 486 vs. Mac Benchmarks
Reply-To: dlopez@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:46:36 GMT


i am not sure how good a benchmark your example is for the reason that 
microsoft makes dos,windows and excel. they are known to tweek windows or
their applications for a competitive advantage over their rivals. since
they dont have the internals for macos they cant do the same on the mac
version of their software....

as for macos being 32 bit OS, there is an option to run it in 24 bit
mode which is what i do for running older apps.

In article FqE@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu, ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
>
>Oh? Lets come up with some easy-to-do Windows vs. Mac benchmarks then. I
>just tried one. Here we go:
>
>Hardware: IBM PS/2 Model 56Slc (386SLC, not sure about MHz)., ATI 8514/
>          Ultra video, 1024x768x 256 colors (running 8514 driver). 12 
>          Meg. RAM. 
>
>          Macintosh IICi, built-in Apple video, 680x480(yuck)x256 colors.
>          32 bit addressing turned on, VRAM on, 16 Meg available, disk 
>          cache 384K.      
>
>          In the wings (have to try this later): Clone 386-40, 4 Meg RAM,
>          Diamond Speedstar 800x600x256 color video.
>
>Software: Excel 3 (I will try it with Excel 4 in the next couple days).
>
>The test: Put an integer into cell A1. Cells B1 -> Z1 are cell to the left
>          + 1. Cells A2 -> Z1000 are cell above +1. See how long it takes 
>          to recalc the sheet after changing value of A1.
>
>Results:  Under Windows recalc took 3.3 seconds. On the Mac, 7.5 seconds.
>
>Subjective (I'll time it next time):
>
>	  Setting up the spreadsheet took considerably longer on the Mac. 
>          The cell copy took far longer. Video refresh (move from cell 
>          Z1000 -> A1) was a lot slower on the Mac. The spreadsheet almost
>          took up all the 1.5 Meg fixed stack allocated to Excel 3 - there
>          is no fixed stack under Windows. Excel can have as much RAM as 
>          is physically (and virtually) available.
>
>In the works:
>
>          I'll try this and other benchmarks on different machines. Don't
>          have a Quadra to try though. I want to see what a 386-40 can do -
>          the 56slc has a 16 bit bus (sorta like a LCII). I'll try a scrol-
>          ling test next, or a copy/paste or moving a bunch of cells.
>
>
>>We all know that Windows is *SLOW*, unlike the 32-bit Mac OS.
>
>Do we now. Do you know something we don't? See above. 32 bit OS? System 
>7 is no more "32 bit" than Windows 3.1. In Windows 3.1 you can use 32-
>bit video drivers (eg. Panacea WinSpeed) and 32-bit disk addressing. If 
>System 7 is a true 32-bit OS why can the guy down the hall run it on a Mac 
>Plus?


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From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Subject: Re: PB 100 modem in Italy
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 03:37:42 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1gtgfuINN7so@agate.berkeley.edu> luigi@paris.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Luigi Semenzato) writes:
>A friend who brought to Italy his PB 100 with the Apple internal
>2400/9600 send fax modem claims that it doesn't work: that is,
>it does not dial.  I told him to make sure that he was using
>pulse dial (ATDP) but he claims he did.  How is it possible that
>such a simple electrical interface (open and close a switch)
>would be incompatible?   Thanks  --Luigi

The make/break ratio is different, as I recall.  I don't know if the
PB100 is switchable.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: aberno@ee.ubc.ca (Anthony Berno)
Subject: Re: Duo/SCSI details
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:26:22 GMT

In article <619@blue.cis.pitt.edu> nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello) writes:
>>>When the Duo is "pretending" to be a SCSI disk for another Mac,
>>>can you dock/undock the Duo without rebooting the desktop machine?
>>
>>Probably depends  on the machine it's hooked up to.
>>
>>The reason you probably haven't gotten any replies is simple: the MiniDock
>>has not been released yet, and thus no one has really used it.
>
>  There are two third party mini-docks on the market (maybe more).
>Has anyone bought the "DeskNet" version with internal ethernet?
>If so I'd like the specs...

Actually, I'd like pointers to *any* information on these docks! 
Any volunteers?

-Anthony
From: hamachi@adobe.com (Gordon Hamachi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: MacPlus - No Video!
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:59:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: adobe.1992Dec18.185900.22059
Distribution: usa
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

Bohdan Rekshynskyj writes
>    It sounds like a loose solder joint.  Invest the $20 bucks or so and get  
the
> book "Macintosh Repair Secrets".  No need to pay these ripoff dealers several
> hundred dollars what 15 minutes and a soldering iron will fix.  I have fixed
> mine twice now as well as the keyboard using this book.

I agree.  Let me add that there is also no need to pay these ripoff power  
supply "upgraders" big bucks when you can fix it yourself with a soldering  
iron.  And when you fix it yourself you learn valuable lessons that you can  
apply to future products.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: hjwulfso@unix.amherst.edu (Harris Wulfson)
Subject: Re: Radius Pivot LE and a DuoDock?
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 09:20:46 GMT

Harris Wulfson (hjwulfso@unix.amherst.edu) wrote:
}      One more thing: The LE comes with its own video card, but is it possible
} to run it off the DuoDock's internal video? If so will it work only in
} portrait mode? My reasoning is that by using the internal video, I could
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^

oops, I meant landscape mode.

Harris