HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jennings@lhotse.stortek.com (Jeff Jennings)
Subject: Re: Am I the only one with these Dell Svr4 Issue 2.2 problems ?
Organization: Storage Tek
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 19:29:14 GMT

Bill Heiser (bill@unixland.natick.ma.us) wrote:
: 
: Does X386 under SVR4 allow for a "console window" like on a Sun or
: other "real" workstation?
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X386 1.2E doesn't seem to allow a console window, i.e. xterm -C doesn't 
grab the console and xconsole gives an error about not being able to
open the console.  maybe i'm just doing something wrong, i haven't really
tried very hard to make it work.

- jeff

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: jdc@tropix.uucp (Jim Cronin)
Subject: Watch out for Esix X11R4 - mmap munged
Organization: GCA/Tropel Division, Fairport, NY
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 19:14:29 GMT


Our application, which uses mmap to access a video framegrabber
board's memory, fails under Esix 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 when the X11
library libX11.a or libX11.so is linked in.  The application
works OK with X386 or a home-linked X11R5.  (Motif applications 
crash with X11R5, so it isn't an option for us.)

It was traced to an incorrect version of mmap() in Esix's 
X11 library.  The application works correctly when the C library
is loaded before X11.

Moral of the story:  Don't take anything for granted on Esix.  You
never know what won't work.

Moral #2:  Cheap Unix is not a bargin.

Now, are there any other "gotcha's" lurking in Esix?  Are all versions
of Unix for the 386 like this?

Jim
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From: mla@enea.se (Mats L|fstr|m)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: SLIP/PPP on Interactive 386/ix.
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:03:39 GMT
Reply-To: mla@enea.se (Mats L|fstr|m)
Organization: Enea Data AB, Sweden
Uucp-Path: mcvax!kth!sunic!enea.se!mla


A customer of mine is thinking of using SLIP to connect their
486-based 386/ix (release 2.2(?)) machines to remote networks.
However, SLIP doesn't that good a reputation among the network people
the customer has talked to.

Therefor I ask you, is the SLIP implementation shiped with 386/ix
trustworthy?

Is it possible to get source code for SLIP, without going broke?

Are there any (cheap) implementation of PPP running on 386/ix?

	Thanx in advance!

	mla

Real life: Mats Lofstrom (actualy, there's supposed to be dot's above the o's)
Email: mla@enea.se
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From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: Re: uucp g protocol tuning parameters -- help cutting phone bills!
Date: 3 Oct 92 22:13:20 GMT
Organization: The Gator Conferencing System 219-289-3745

orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net (Orville R. Weyrich) writes:

>I have heard that I can possibly improve my uucp [news feed] performance by
>twiddling with the "g protocol" window parameters. Right now I am running
>Microport Unix System V R3.0, and am soon to install ESIX 4.0.3. My Microport

Why ESIX 4.0.3?  Unless you purchased the OS a couple of months ago, I would
suggest going directly to 4.0.4 which is current.

>manuals seem to be silent on how to adjust the g protocol window  parameters,
>and the ESIX I have doesn't have any manuals. Both Microport and ESIX have
>HDB uucp.

With SVR4 4.0 check /etc/uucp/Config for defining alternate
protocols -- like "G"

>I am very interested in improving my transmission speed for uucp -- I have a
>Hayes Optima that should be capable of at least 960 cps [more with compression],
>but I am only getting about 500 cps out of my [long distance  -- I pay  for it!]
>link to uunet. I get about  900 cps out of a local link.

Maybe your serial horsepower can't support a channel that fast?  How about 
handshaking (make sure you use hardware only and disable xon/xoff if
possible in your modem and OS).

>talking to my Microport 3.0 and Esix 4.0 systems? I assume that if they push
>the parameters too hard, the connection will become unreliable, whereas if
>they don't push hard enough, my connection will become slow. Correct?

Sounds good.

>Where can I find documentation on the ins-and-outs of the g protocol?

>Someone please help me cut my phone bills! [no smart cracks about cutting
>my news feed, please  :-) ]

If you are getting poor throughput currently on lines that others get
better throughput the problem is on your end -- therefore, switching
feeds won't do much for you.


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: Re: Unix "Lite" is not so light
Reply-To: uunet.uu.net!weyrich!orville
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 12:55:50 GMT

In article <2979@news.cerf.net> jde@esix.everex.com (Jeff Ellis) writes:
>[ Article crossposted from comp.unix.sys5.r4 ]
>[ Author was Jeff Ellis ]
>[ Posted on 30 Sep 92 17:10:21 GMT ]
>
>Scott Evernden (scott@unixland.natick.ma.us) wrote:
>:>In article <1a7cspINNmmu@cs.utexas.edu> turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin) writes:
>
>I am testing SVR4.2 right now and it has all of the features of 4.0.4.
>It has a new version of C and a graphic Debugger to run from the desktop.
>It supports CD filesystems, Token Ring, X11R5,.....
>
>BTW What features are important for you people to buy 4.2? 
>(in short what should Esix do to get you to buy?)

How about an inexpensive upgrade path?

How about ability to exist on an inexpensive MS-DOS peer-to-peer network
like LAN-tastic or Novell-Lite? I am still looking for a viable alternative
to Netware 3.x for small work-groups that need to have a "real" computer 
[UNIX or OS/2] in their network. Netware 3.x is too much of a closed
"good-old-boy" product, what with their expensive CNE program and dearth of
good self-study  materials, and their high per-node licensing costs, esp.  for
small networks.

orville

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: acmrlb@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Ronald L. Bolin)
Subject: SVR4 SLIP and XTERM
Keywords: SLIP with XTERM
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 16:14:22 GMT

Does anyone have xterm working over SLIP in addition to
ftp, telnet and rlogin? I am not sure SLIP is suppose
to support the X11R4 server for mapping displays across
the SLIP protocol.

I solicit comments from anyone knowledgeable of SLIP and the
Xlib interface.


Thank's in advance.

Ron


Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: stark@cs.sunysb.edu (Gene Stark)
Subject: Re: [REPOST] Announcing the availability of XFree86 1.1
Followup-To: comp.unix.sysv386
Organization: SUNY at Stony Brook Computer Science Dept.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:17:57 GMT

>	Binaries are available via anonymous FTP from:
	...
>		agate.berkeley.edu		- 386BSD binaries
>			under /pub/386BSD/0.1-ports/XFree86
>		nova.cc.purdue.edu		- 386BSD binaries
>			under /pub/386bsd/submissions/XFree86

Perhaps I occupy a different dimension of cyberspace, but I have been
looking for these binaries since this announcement was first made,
and I don't see them.  Can someone let me in on the secret?

							- Gene Stark
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: mdent@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Dent)
Subject: MUD on ISC now working
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 14:09:46 GMT


Just for the records I now have my MUD working under ICS 2.2.1 albeit
without networking, i.e. users must telnet to my machine first. It works
well! I run it over our local ham radio network (tcp/ip) in North England.
  the files came from 131.159.0.110 in pub/news/comp.sources.games/tinymud
2/
  Thanks for those that helped.
Mike
From: paul@sunrise.sli.unimelb.edu.au (Paul Joyce)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: Destiny vs ODT vs Dell vs ESIX
Keywords: Destiny ODT SCO Dell ESIX
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:51:43 GMT
Reply-To: paul@sunrise.sli.unimelb.edu.au (Paul Joyce)
Organization: University of Melbourne, Dept of Surveying and Land Information

In article <1992Oct06.094404.15500@digibd.com> rick@digibd.com (Rick Richardson) writes:
>	I wouldn't mind writing in Moolit, if SCO had it.
>	IMHO, if USL is taking the position that Motif is a 2nd
>	class citizen, they ought to be providing Moolit libraries
>	for SVR3.2 and SVR4 developers to use.  Wean the developers
>	onto the Moolit API for the existing markets.

I agree totally with Rick. MOOLIT would be a logical way to go for developers
if it was more widely available, including workstations (Sun, SGI, IBM, etc).
Can anyone shed any light on USL's plans for MOOLIT?

-- 
Paul Joyce
paul@sunrise.sli.unimelb.edu.au

     "I think you're pretty smart, don't I?"      - Daffy Duck
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: mat@mole-end.matawan.nj.us
Subject: Re: cu, console, and 8 bits
Keywords:  cu, console
Organization: :
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:28:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.141519.27448@news2.cis.umn.edu>, bob@ht2.me.umn.edu (Bob Hain (Sysop)) writes:
> Some of the new cu's get their idea of the number of bit to use
> from the terminal that is running cu.  On the console you can
> "stty cs8" to get cu to use 8 bits.  I don't really understand
> why you cannot place the call the way you want but this has
> been a solution for me.

I've tried it.  The problem seems to be that cu itself is cutting the
data path back, since it appears that the modem port is set up for
eight bits (I've done a stty -a </dev/term/i1f while it's running, and
it's set for cs8 ...) and I can get the line-drawing character set
to display on the screen by echoing the right characters ...  so no, I 
don't understand either!
-- 
 (This man's opinions are his own.)
 From mole-end				Mark Terribile

 mat@mole-end.matawan.nj.us, Somewhere in Matawan, NJ
From: marwood@ncs.dnd.ca (Gordon Marwood)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: ISC SysV3.2 rel. 2.2.1 login problem
Keywords: login
Date: 5 Oct 92 00:55:13 GMT
Organization: DND, Ottawa, CANADA

Once every month or so, my ISC SysV3.2 rel. 2.2.1 system will not accept
logins, either from the console, telnet, rlogin, or dial-up.  The
symptom of this is that, at the login prompt, characters will only echo
after several tries.  Even if characters are eventually entered, and the
echo is seen, the login fails.  As the password does not echo, it is
impossible to know whether it has been accepted or not.  ftp connections
can still be made.

The only solution that I have found is to power-down and re-boot.

Any help with this problem would be appreciated.

Gordon Marwood
Internet: marwood@ncs.dnd.ca
Xref: sparky comp.unix.sysv386:15144 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:25944
From: david@talgras.UUCP (David Hoopes)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Spontaneous tape-related reboots on 486/33
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:12:04 GMT
Reply-To: david@talgras.UUCP (David Hoopes)
Followup-To: comp.unix.sysv386
Organization: Tallgrass Technologies Inc.

In article <1992Oct2.083927.24553@nwnexus.WA.COM> markmc@halcyon.com (Mark McWiggins) writes:
>.... until I tried installing Interactive SVR4 onto the recently
>repartitioned disk. The machine reboots itself at random points in the
>installation procedure, always in the middle of its running the tape drive.
>This makes me suspect some sort of timing problem, but I'm not too much
>of a hardware tech and I don't know how to proceed from this point.
>
>I have an Adaptec 1542 SCSI, 340 MB disk, and Archive 2150S tape.
>
>Any ideas? 

One thing that can cause the problem you discribe is an under powered
power supply.  Tape drives suck up a lot of juice.  When the drive is
first starting the tape moving the power usage peaks pretty high.  Your
new mother board maybe rebooting because of the voltage drop during the
tape start up.  Try an external power suppy for the tape drive.

good luck.



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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: unix sugestions on pc
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:31:59 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <98B8RB1w165w@improb.cls.com> jlw@improb.cls.com (Jeff Wannamaker) writes:
>jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>
>> 
>> MST provides (IMHO) a nice SVR4, also.  Here are their prices (last time I
>> checked):
>> 
>> 		Base (SVR4.0.3):	$249
>> 		Development:		$150
>> 		X11R5:			$100
>> 		Motif:			$100
>> 		Networking:		$100
>> 		Unlimited User Upgrade:	$100
>> 
>> The total system is thus $699, or $799 for unlimited users.  MST also provide
>> sources/binaries for lots of GNU and PD software, such as Emacs 18.58 and
>>
>>    << REST DELETED >>
>
>I know about Consensys and other SRV4-types, but have not heard of MST in
>the FAQs (although I haven't kept up with them in recent months).  I'd
>really appreciate it if you could tell me what MST stands for, the name of
>the company who sells it, and if possible a phone number or address that I
>could call for more information.  Thanks.

Micro Station Technology
1140 Kentwood Avenue
Cupertino, CA 95015

Voice: 408-253-3898
Fax:   408-253-7853


I've talked to them on the phone, but I haven't tried their product.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
From: bad@flatlin.ka.sub.org (Christoph Badura)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: Wangtek or Archive??
Date: 3 Oct 92 12:48:23 GMT
Organization: Guru Systems/Funware Department

In <2ABFD9F1.4C28@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes:

>In addition to the question of Wangtek and Archive, I'm also
>curious about reactions about two other brands of SCSI tape
>drives:

>- Tandberg (didn't they use to make really good audio cassette decks?)

Nice drives. The 525MB version comes with either SCSI-1 or SCSI-2
firmware. It seems only the latter allows synchronous SCSI transfers.
They have a large buffer which helps to get them streaming.

They didn't run under Interactive UNIX prior to version 3.0, this
seems to be fixed.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva)
Subject: Re: Unix "Lite" is not so light
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:44:12 GMT

In article <2979@news.cerf.net> jde@esix.everex.com (Jeff Ellis) writes:
> BTW What features are important for you people to buy 4.2? 

Price competitive with OS/2 and NT.

Base system running in 2MB RAM, 40 MB hard disk. Compilers or X in 4 MB.
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From: wht@n4hgf.Mt-Park.GA.US (Warren Tucker)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: Re: av386mon source posted to alt.sources
Date: 4 Oct 92 11:09:40 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.sysv386
Organization: TuckerWare, Roswell GA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Andreas Vogel (av@omega.ssw.de) wrote:
: Another question: I think, that cleaning up the u386mon source and
: reimplementing some parts of it could be neccessary. It would be much
: easier to maintain and add things to the cleaned up source.
: On the other side, that means that the new source will then only compile
: on SVR4 systems. I'm not sure wich solution I should prefer.

The two kernels are different enough (e.g., pagable vs. resident)
that you should adapt or carve up the source any way you need
under the name av386mon (although u386mon is a misnomer since it
runs on at least 1 m68k! av3486mon will probably travel too).

Just remember me in the README, eh?
 
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From: jlw@improb.cls.com (Jeff Wannamaker)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: unix sugestions on pc
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 21:46:31 CDT
Organization: Improbability Drive

jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:

> 
> MST provides (IMHO) a nice SVR4, also.  Here are their prices (last time I
> checked):
> 
> 		Base (SVR4.0.3):	$249
> 		Development:		$150
> 		X11R5:			$100
> 		Motif:			$100
> 		Networking:		$100
> 		Unlimited User Upgrade:	$100
> 
> The total system is thus $699, or $799 for unlimited users.  MST also provide
> sources/binaries for lots of GNU and PD software, such as Emacs 18.58 and
>
>    << REST DELETED >>

I know about Consensys and other SRV4-types, but have not heard of MST in
the FAQs (although I haven't kept up with them in recent months).  I'd
really appreciate it if you could tell me what MST stands for, the name of
the company who sells it, and if possible a phone number or address that I
could call for more information.  Thanks.

--
Jeff Wannamaker, jlw@improb.cls.com  OR  ...!uunet!cls!improb!jlw
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: Re: Terminals on SCO, how?
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 13:34:21 GMT

jle9162@zeus.tamu.edu (ECKHARDT, JASON LEE) writes:

>Ok, I am running on a 486/33 with SCO unix 3.2.2. I'm trying to get a dumb 
>terminal (vt100 specifically) connected to com2 to work with SCO as a login
>terminal. if I use enable, all SCO does is hang- it's so bad I have to reboot.
>Even doing a simple 'echo hello there >/dev/tty2a' hangs the machine complete-
>ly!
>Now before you tell me my null modem cable, terminal, or computer is faulty,
>listen: I have used the terminal successfully on the same machine, same com
>port, on 3 different operating systems other than SCO (these were VM/386,
>Coherent unix, and DOS). Only SCO doesn't work.

>I have FAS 2.09 installed rather than the stock SCO serial driver..maybe this
>is to blame? I tried increasing CLIST to 400 as per fas documentation, but
>no luck. Now the funny thing is, I have a modem connected to the other port,
>com1. If I do 'echo atdt44444 >/dev/tty1a' it sends it the modem just fine.
>I have also used kermit successfully with the modem on com1. I have
>FAS installed, because the SCO serial driver wouldn't even work with the modem
>or kermit.

>Someone please help! I left a message on the biz.sco.* groups, but have 
>received absolutely no reply from them.

>Thanks, Jason.

>PS: The serial card is based on ns16450 and fas reports type=* correctly.

I cruise biz.sco all the time and I never saw your message.

But anyway, first things first.  When you enter "hwconfig 2> /dev/null" what
do you get.  Specifically I'm looking for conflicts with interrupt 3, or
simply not having the serial port built into the kernel.

Feel free to e-mail me with the results.

-- 
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Solve a man's problem and he has 1 less.        No incumbents in 92.
Teach a man to think, and all his problems are less.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: zbig@wariat.org (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik)
Subject: Re: SLIP/PPP on Interactive 386/ix.
Followup-To: comp.unix.sysv386
Reply-To: zbig@wariat.org (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik)
Organization: Akademia Pana Kleksa, Public Access Uni* Site
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:22:29 GMT

As quoted from <1992Sep28.230339.16737@enea.se> by mla@enea.se (Mats L|fstr|m):

+---------------
> 
> A customer of mine is thinking of using SLIP to connect their
> 486-based 386/ix (release 2.2(?)) machines to remote networks.
> However, SLIP doesn't that good a reputation among the network people
> the customer has talked to.
> 
> Therefor I ask you, is the SLIP implementation shiped with 386/ix
> trustworthy?
> 

If it is ISC2.X answer is NO!. Get upgrade to 3.0 or 3.01, and
then start using SL/IP. It will save you lotsa of hairs.... 

> Is it possible to get source code for SLIP, without going broke?
> 

Have no idea. 

> Are there any (cheap) implementation of PPP running on 386/ix?
> 

As far as I know  there are none. Mornigstar.com is known to have
a beta version, but last time I mentioned that it is in beta for
18 months I was flamed by them.  Since then, silence. 

I would love to learn that folks from MorningStar.com finally are
done with ISC TCP/IP peculiarities, and PPP is available from
them. 




> 	Thanx in advance!
> 
> 	mla
> 
> Real life: Mats Lofstrom (actualy, there's supposed to be dot's above the o's)
> Email: mla@enea.se


You are welcome.... 

_zjt
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: richardg@ssd.intel.com (Richard Griffiths)
Subject: Re: V/386 R3.2 Device Driver Reference Manual
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Divison, Intel Corp.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:56:11 GMT

In article <BvIEyy.62L@csn.org>, c4craig@teal.csn.org (Craig Anderson) writes:
|> 
|> Can anyone tell me where to find:
|> 
|> UNIX SystemV/386 R3.2 Device Driver Reference Manual
Go to any decent book store that carries the Prentice Hall SVR4 Unix books
and get the DDI/DKI manual.  Although the manual is for SVR4, there are tables
in each section differentiating between the R3 and R4 releases.  I was able to
use it effectively to write a driver for a 3.2 system.  

Hope this helps.

Richard
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386