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From: dat91oto@ludat.lth.se (Ola Torstensson)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: FWWM JAPANESE
Date: 28 Dec 92 10:05:26 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, University of Lund, Sweden

In article <ukB0VB1w165w@cyberden.sf.ca.us> justice@cyberden.sf.ca.us writes:
>The Japanese Laser Disc is no different than the movie [...]
>Without the Japanese sub-titles, it's the same as the original.

More details, please!  Is it letterboxed?  Picture/sound quality ok?  English
subtitles included (e.g. in the garmonbozia (sadness and pain) scene)?  Is it
all CLV?  No censorship, I hope? 

And does anyone know a release date for a US LaserDisc of FWWM?  (If there are 
no English subtitles on the Japanese disc, I think I'd rather wait)

Thanks in advance!  
Ola

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Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: jhbrown@athena.mit.edu (Jeremy H Brown)
Subject: Finale - New (or very old) questions...
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 10:47:20 GMT


I watched the second season finale just a few moments ago, and came up
with several questions/observations which are new to me ('though they
may well have been hashed over here in the past) and which I would like
to see discussed.

First, is there a good GIF of the Owl Cave map anywhere?

The reason I ask (aside from a general curiousity) is that the Giant and
the Little Man are clearly drawn on the map (upper left corner) as it is
shown on the screen -- are any of the other lodge-dwellers there?


Are we to take it that the pool in Glastonbury (sp) Grove is a pool of
the same sort of oil with which Cooper is provided by the Log Lady?
The LL's husband told her, she says, that the oil is an "opening to a
gateway."  When Cooper peers closely at the pool, he says musingly "An
opening to a gateway."  Comments?

When Garland Briggs bumps into Hawk while stumbling out of the woods in
a drugged haze, he asks Hawk "Which way to the Castle?"  He later
mentions the King of Romania.  Did anyone catch the exact quote about
the King (I can't make it out.)

When Mrs. Palmer is giving her message to Garland in the RR Diner, she
says "I'm in the black lodge with Agent Cooper."  Observation:  _black_
lodge.  Annie tells Laura in FWWM that the good Dale is in "the Lodge",
no color attached.  Has Dale moved from one lodge to the other
(presumably that angel at the end is not hanging out in the Black Lodge)
or is Annie just unclear on the split? 

A moment after Mrs. Palmer delivers her message, the view shifts to a
shot inside the black lodge, and the LMFAP's voice says "I'm waiting for
you."  Is this/ is this not part of the message given to Garland (thus
implying that the LMFAP is the one speaking through Mrs. Palmer.)  If
not -- some posters said that they heard a very deep voice say "Judy"
in FWWM during the shot of the simian face in the Lodge.  Anyone want to
hypothesize that that deep voice was the same deep voice as spoke
through Mrs. Palmer?

A final observation, and perhaps most startling to me: When Cooper is in
the Lodge in the finale, after he has left the waiting room and wandered
about a bit, he walks into a room where the LMFAP is standing not too
far from him.  The LMFAP snarls/grimaces and says "Doppleganger".  The
observation I made here is that the LMFAP's eyes are _glazed_over_ in
the style of the other Dopplegangers.  This seems to confirm that at
least some Lodge residents have dopplegangers, and leads to all sorts of
weird new theorizations.  

Please flame!
Jeremy






Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (U.F.Orb)
Subject: Re: On the Air/Alphabet
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 05:07:06 GMT

giovin@medr3.ecs.umass.edu (Rocky J Giovinazzo) writes:

(OTA Stuff deleted...)

>3 episodes aired in Boston, and apparently 7 were completed.  No

What part of Boston do you live in? Only 2 were shown in *My* Boston.
The third was pre-empted for some kind of beauty paegeant....

That's what they get for trying to show in in July 4th..

And, at least according to my soon-to-arrive Japanese LaserDiscs,
there are 7 episodes. (although I thought there were only 6.....)

-- 
Jason Bilsky   fuzzbox@world.std.com 
"Got enough guilt to start my own religion."
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: jeffwm@dorsai.com (jeffrey Mintz)
Subject: Welcome
Organization: The Dorsai Embassy, New York's Computer Consulate. +1.718.729.5018
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:18:44 GMT

Geez.....I didn't know what fun I was missing out!  I just found a sight
with use-net feeds...boy am I happy!  I feel like a bear claw!
Newsgroups: alt.tv.antagonists,alt.tv.muppets,alt.tv.simpsons
From: muhamk@microsoft.com (Muhammad Karim)
Subject: TV shows Exporting
Date: 26 Dec 92 17:18:58 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Keywords: Shows

I am interested in starting an exporting business of TV or
Video Production (TV & Comedy Shows, Movies & Mini TV series
or any other shows which can be televised in TV, half an hour
or longer).

If you are interested in exporting your video or TV production
or know someone who can help me out in this matter please forward
me his/her name.

Thanks for all the help and you can email me
at muhamk@microsoft.com

~
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: Steve=Rotter%Staff%UIUC=CMC@bigbird.will.uiuc.edu (Steve Rotter)
Subject: Jerry and money
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:13:59 GMT

Has anyone else every wondered where Jerry gets all his money from.  He 
seems to have plenty and his not afraid to spend it.  He has $800 to pay for 
the damage to his neighbors car,  $400 to pay for Elaine's International 
phone bill, money for the opera, we never see him eating at home - he's 
always at the restaurant.  He lives by himself in a big apartment, owns a 
car which must cost him a fortune to insure and maintain.  He must be making 
some decent money on his stand-up jobs, although we hardly ever hear him 
taking trips to perform.
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: bscott@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ben Scott)
Subject: Re: Nipple
Summary: Nip... neener... noonan... 
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 06:13:10 GMT

In article <1gp4lhINNf1@male.EBay.Sun.COM> greg@redeye.EBay.Sun.COM (greg) writes:
>So, Elaine shows her nipple in  photo on  Christmas Card,
>but do we get to see it?  Nooo!  Why not?  I mean if Jerry
>can pick his nose on national TV, why can't we see Elaine's

For the LAST time, Jerry WASN'T PICKING HIS NOSE.

NO PICK.  None.

Honest.

.                            <<<<Infinite K>>>>

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Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: simoni@strat.Stanford.EDU (Richard Simoni)
Subject: Laugh track turned up louder recently?
Reply-To: simoni@strat.stanford.edu
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 09:04:16 GMT



The past two weeks I've seen Seinfeld for the first time in ages, at least a
year.  (Saw the nipple and red dot episodes.  Hilarious!)  It seemed to me
that the volume of the laugh track (or maybe it's live laughing?) is turned
way up relative to the way it used to be in previous seasons, especially
during the bits with Jerry doing stand-up.  I still love the show, but to me
the turned-up laughing makes the whole thing (again, especially the stand-up
comedy parts) seem somehow more fake/staged.

Has anyone else noticed this, or is it just a warped recollection on my part
of how the show used to be?

Thanks!

Rich Simoni, on the wagon (or is that off?)

Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: oiler17@bcars698.bnr.ca (Dave Allen)
Subject: Favorite episodes 
Keywords: Crazy joe divola 
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 19:12:53 GMT

My favorite show was where Jerry and Elaine find out that the same guy 
that wanted to get Jerry was the same guy Elaine was dating. The best part 
of this episode was when Jerry was locked in his apartment and Kramer came 
sliding over from his apartment and slammed in the door.

George and Jerry were in the apartment and you here this SLAMM ..KLUNK KLUNK
Jerry says ' Who's there ?
Kramer     ' IT'S ME
Jerry opens the door and Kramer is lying on the floor and say's " What did 
you locked the door for " 

I was in tears when i heard the klunk klunk outside the door .. i knew what
happened.
From: bj835@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tim Connors)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: Seinfeld show breaks toilet taboo
Date: 22 Dec 1992 15:46:16 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


LA LAW's many bathroom scenes are a continuation of the great
bathroom scenes on Hill Street Blues, which is the first
place I remember seeing actual conversations between & among
characters that take place as they saunter up to the urinal,
apparently relieve themselves for the normal amount of time, zip,
flush, and wash their hands.  You never actually heard the 
sound, though.  I seem to recall this taboo (The Tinkle Barrier?)
being broken on TV very recently... perhaps on the Simpsons or
maybe LA Law.  Can anyone tell me where I heard it?
-- 
TJC
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Sroka)
Subject: PEZ for Christmas !!!!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 07:38:40 GMT

Anybody else get PEZ for Christmas?
I got a Batman dispenser. (My girlfriend said they didn't have
any Tweety Birds. But Batman's cool, too!)

Damn, they're hard to load. Can't remember the last time I tried, must
be over twenty years ago.

Can't wait to whip out the old PEZ at some serious event.
Maybe I'll casually set it on my office neighbor's desk while he's
in the middle of a serious discussion with his boss, or I'll set it on 
the table at my next staff meeting...

             - the possibilities abound!

-- 
Greg Sroka
Menlo Park, CA
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld,alt.fan.letterman
From: molly@uga.edu ()
Subject: Re: Interview with Jason Alexander
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:22:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.163025.8551@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jjn7g@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (John J. Nee) writes:
>	I was very disturbed by Jason Alexander's interview on
>Letterman.  Not only did he seem conceited throughout, but then to go
>and insult the fans!  I couldn't help but wonder if NBC will say
>something to him and discourage him from making such statements in the
>future.  Doesn't he know it is the fans that help pay his rent!!
>
>	John
>

What did he say about the fans?  Just curious.

Molly
From: franl@centerline.com (Fran Litterio)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: Jerry and money
Date: 30 Dec 92 18:12:43
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
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In-reply-to: M19249@mwvm.mitre.org's message of Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:17:46 GMT

M19249@mwvm.mitre.org writes:

> Steve=Rotter%Staff%UIUC=CMC@bigbird.will.uiuc.edu (Steve Rotter) writes:
> 
> >Has anyone else every wondered where Jerry gets all his money from.

> I believe the consensus in a.t.s is that the character, like Jerry himself,
> is a well-paid nationally-known stand-up comic.

Just to elaborate a little...  Jerry Seinfeld (the character) is
supposed to be none other than Jerry Seinfeld (the real person).  He's
playing himself, not just any "nationally-known stand-up comic" who is
only similar to the real Jerry Seinfeld.

Jerry Seinfeld (the character) even negotiated with NBC to do a
(fictitious) TV show based on his life, where every episode would be
about nothing in particular.  Jerry Seinfeld (the character in the
fictitious show) would speak lines written by Jerry Seinfeld (the
character in the real show), who in turn speaks lines written by Jerry
Seinfeld (the real person).

What ever came of the fictitious Seinfeld show?
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From: lowry@watson.ibm.com (Andy Lowry)
Subject: Re: Funniest Scene From A Seinfeld Episode
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:28:08 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
	<1992Dec11.214916.13666@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
	<1992Dec20.045341.25481@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <1992Dec20.045341.25481@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bscott@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ben Scott) writes:
 > Now I'm wondering why they had some actor playing "Calvin" on this week's
 > show... I mean, usually when they have a reference to someone famous, they
 > either don't show him (like John John or Joltin' Joe) or they show the
 > actual person (Keith Hernandez, or that star from Cheers on the Carson show).
 > I think this is one of the first times they've shown someone "famous"
 > (allegedly Calvin Kline, or Klien?) and not had the acutal person playing
 > the role.

Another real-life celebrity to add to your list: Jerry Seinfeld.  You
may have noticed he actually appears in several episodes.  They could
have hired an actor to play this part, but no, they got the real guy.
Good casting!
--
Andy Lowry, lowry@watson.ibm.com, (914) 784-7925
IBM Research, P.O. Box 704, Yorktown Heights, NY  10598
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: dlightne@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David E Lightner)
Subject: RE: interview with Jason Alexander
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:23:23 GMT

During the Letterman interview, Dave brought up the fact that Seinfeld had been
conducted into the broadcast hall of fame (or something to that effect).  Part 
of the ceremony involves showing scenes from the show, and part involves having
the cast (and I suppose others) take questions from the audience about the 
show.  Dave commented that it must be nice to be recognized like that, and to 
have a chance to meet some of the fans.  At this point Jason grunted and said 
that you don't want to get too close to those fans; you got people with Kramer
hair and George's glasses asking about whatever happened to Kramer's dog.
Jason's tone was very derisive.  He seemed to be quite disgusted with the fans
and their preoccupation with the show.  Dave's come back was that "I guess
you'll have trouble getting home tonight."
   I myself was quite offended by Jason's remark.  I have several observations
about it.
   First, Jerry, in the Barbara Walters interview, said that people are far too
interested in him.  It could be that the cast is getting overwhelmed by serious
fans at this point.
   Next, it seems clear to me that the nature of the show is such that it would
attrack people who would want to examine it closely.  Seinfeld's humour centers
around closely examining the ordinary and the details of the ordinary, such as
examining the dynamics of waiting for a seat at a restaurant, or riding the
subway, or flying on a plane, or eating danishes, or the fact that a muffin can
be very filling.  So given that this is the nature of the show, it seems 
natural that the fans would take an interest in the details of the show itself.
   Now, it surprises me that JA does not seem to realize this.  It has been my 
experience, however, that actors often do not understand the nature of their 
work.  Actors who work in science fiction will often admit to having no 
understanding of the stories or the genre.  I suppose that Jerry's reaction 
against his popularity may spring from some sort of humility.
   I do think it was unkind for JA to speak derisively towards the fans of 
Seinfeld, even if some of them appear to be extreme.  It is presumptuous of him
to judge what is the appropriate manner in which to take an interest in the
show.
   Anyway, the artist is the wrong person to go to in order to understand and 
apprectiate the nature of his work.  I think Seinfeld belongs more to us than 
it does the cast of the show, and so I suppose it is inappropriate to be too 
concerned what JA thinks about the show or its fans; just as long as he does 
his job.
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: thomasl@mtl.mit.edu (Thomas J Lohman)
Subject: Re: The best TV show
Keywords: Boston Herald Review
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 02:48:12 GMT

In article <2328@hsdndev.UUCP> nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder) writes:

>Also,I haven't yet come across any women that hate me for being a Herald
>reader.

Oh, so why do they hate you? just kidding...

>alt.guys.who.dont.read.theherald.because.of.their.absurd.belief.that.it.
>appeals.to.women.they.havent.met.yet.

I thought people didn't read the Herald because of its tabloid style
journalism and it's emphasis on sensation instead of substance.  
Does anyone know what paper Jerry would read?  We know George is a Daily
News man...


--tom
From: nils@carr (Nils Nieuwejaar)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: The best TV show
Keywords: Boston Herald Review
Date: 30 Dec 92 17:50:35 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder) writes:

>In article <RCOTE.2@warren.med.harvard.edu> RCOTE@warren.med.harvard.edu (Bob Cote) writes:
>>No flames please on the journalistic merits (or lack there of) in the Herald.
>No flames. When was the last time you saw anything other than a review
>of a PBS show in the Globe? At least the Herald did a half dozen stories
>on "Seinfeld" this year and I have my wall to prove it :-)

>-Mark

Seinfeld also made the Globe's list of the 10 best TV shows of 1992.

Nils
From: dave_gampell@hpoclpz.sj.hp.com (David Gampell)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: interview with Jason Alexander
Date: 23 Dec 1992 00:45:29 GMT
Organization: the crux of a decision
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David E Lightner (dlightne@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
:        Dave commented that it must be nice to be recognized like that, and to 
: have a chance to meet some of the fans.  At this point Jason grunted and said 
: that you don't want to get too close to those fans; you got people with Kramer
: hair and George's glasses asking about whatever happened to Kramer's dog.
: Jason's tone was very derisive.  He seemed to be quite disgusted with the fans
: and their preoccupation with the show.

Although I didn't see the Letterman show, I'm afraid I have to agree with
Jason.  I think he's talking about the same kind of fans who ask William
Shatner what the combination was to the safe in his quarters (a famous
Saturday Night Live bit).  These fans exist.  They are real and they are
really annoying.  I'm a big Seinfeld fan but the show doesn't have to be
analyzed to death to be funny.

"It was Moops!  MOOPS!"
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From: bjasmer@next.com (Bryce Jasmer)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: THE CONTEST
Date: 27 Dec 92 19:34:50 GMT

In article <BzAE2C.H8A@me.utoronto.ca> steinman@me.utoronto.ca (David Steinman)  
writes:
> basiji@stein.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) writes:
> >>Not to forget when Johnny was involved in the drinking awareness show,  
where
> >>he had to have a drink every 10 minutes, and his reflexes got BETTER.
> 
> >...I think that was Venus.
> 
> No, Venus got drunk very quickly, and then got fixated on hats.  Johnny's
> reaction time kept improving (and he remained sober), until he saw the
> WPIG pig vandalizing the lobby by painting over the WKRP insignia.

Yes, it was definately Johnny that kept improving after drinking. One of my  
favorite WKRPs. The other one is the one with the bomb threat where Johnny is  
at the remote broadcasting tower and he bashes up a phone with a toolbox  
because he couldn't get a call through to his bookie. The police race to the  
tower because the bomb is in the toolbox and Johnny is running around yelling  
how the "PHONE POLICE" are coming to arrest him.

And now back to Seinfeld... my favorite episode still remains the one with  
Kramer and the bag of cement in the laundromat. There have been a lot of great  
opisodes since then but they have never been able to top that one.

Bryce
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: M19249@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: Jerry and money
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:17:46 GMT

In article <Steve=Rotter%Staff%UIUC=CMC.80.725663639@bigbird.will.uiuc.edu>
Steve=Rotter%Staff%UIUC=CMC@bigbird.will.uiuc.edu (Steve Rotter) writes:
 
>Has anyone else every wondered where Jerry gets all his money from.  He
>seems to have plenty and his not afraid to spend it.  He has $800 to pay for
>the damage to his neighbors car,  $400 to pay for Elaine's International
>phone bill, money for the opera, we never see him eating at home - he's
>always at the restaurant.  He lives by himself in a big apartment, owns a
>car which must cost him a fortune to insure and maintain.  He must be making
>some decent money on his stand-up jobs, although we hardly ever hear him
>taking trips to perform.
 
I believe the consensus in a.t.s is that the character, like Jerry himself,
is a well-paid nationally-known stand-up comic.  Discussions about his
free spending ways ($400 weekends, expensive bicycles, unused Macs, pricey
cars, etc.) have been regular features of the group.
-DW "standard disclaimer"
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: dlightne@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David E Lightner)
Subject: the Seinfeld/OSU connection
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 08:57:52 GMT

Am I imagining things, or are there a large number of OSU people who post on 
this group?  Why is this?  Is there something about Columbus and its 
picturesque cornfields and cows which make its residents take to Seinfeld?  
We've got a little club going here.

Tycerium
dlightne@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
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