HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: MSF Rider Training.
Date: 22 Jan 1993 19:35:18 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas
NNTP-Posting-Host: swrinde.nde.swri.edu

In article <C19JK4.LBK@austin.ibm.com> gregb@pro-lep.cts.com writes:
>
>Depends on traffic.  In the vicinity of an a**hole (and there are too
>many of those), they're covered.  It also helps that my bike (a
>PC800) has "wings" that will keep my hands and knees from getting
>crunched if it drops, so the only reason they're not covered all the
>time is comfort.

What!!? Another Toboggan? You know what this means, Joe. I think there are
more of us PC800 owners here in tx.moto than any other bike model. :^) :^)

Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute (will disavow any knowledge of me)
Internet : kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu
(DoF #)  : Neither motorcycling or old age is for sissies.
From: joe@rider.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: MSF Rider Training.
Date: 24 Jan 93 01:04:49 GMT
Reply-To: joe@rider.cactus.org
Distribution: world
Organization: NOT

jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II) writes:
]No, it means that bimmers are meant for people with more dollars
]than sense.

I always liked being the exception...
From: joe@rider.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: MSF Rider Training.
Date: 23 Jan 93 01:05:27 GMT
Reply-To: joe@rider.cactus.org
Distribution: world
Organization: NOT

kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:
]gregb@pro-lep.cts.com writes:
]>It also helps that my bike (a
]>PC800) 
]What!!? Another Toboggan? You know what this means, Joe. I think there are
]more of us PC800 owners here in tx.moto than any other bike model. :^) :^)

so basically what you're saying is that the PC800 is for the common man,
the unwashed masses, while the truly elegant machines like mine are reserved
for the truly deserving...

--
Joe Senner -- joe@Rider.Cactus.Org                                 Austin, TX

WARNING: DO NOT LOOK INTO LASER WITH REMAINING EYE.
               -- Posted by a radioactive isotope research lab (from r.h.f)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
From: jfh@rpp386 (John F. Haugh II)
Subject: Re: MSF Rider Training.
Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II)
Organization: Los Tejanos SCUBA Club and Beer Joint, Austin, Tejas
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:22:39 GMT

In article <962@rider.UUCP> joe@rider.cactus.org writes:
>so basically what you're saying is that the PC800 is for the common man,
>the unwashed masses, while the truly elegant machines like mine are reserved
>for the truly deserving...

No, it means that bimmers are meant for people with more dollars
than sense.  For the price of a new bimmer you could have bought
his and hers PC's.

These are the 90's.  This is the decade of cheap.  bimmers went
out with the greedy 80's ...
-- 
John F. Haugh II                  [ PGP 2.1 ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151           [ DoF #17 ]        @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org

The DDT ban has killed more Africans than the AIDS epidemic.  Legalize DDT now.
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
From: fi33@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Virago for sale
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:42:09 GMT

I have to sell my bike!

Yes the time has come to part with my pride and joy.
1989 Yamaha virago 750
Approximately 7k miles
Dark metallic burgandy
Excellent condition.

My wife and I are buying a house so I must sell.
I am asking $3000 but that is negotiable.
Respond to Steve at fi33@vaxb.acs.unt.edu or call at 817-383-2772
-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Time is but a river, in which I go afishin'.       -Henry David Thoreau
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Steve Windhager            fi33@vaxb.acs.unt.edu           fi33@untvax
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
From: fi33@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: 89 virago for sale
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:48:17 GMT


I gotta sell my bike! :(

1989 Yamaha Virago 750
~7k miles
Dark metalic burgundy
excellent condition
asking $3000

I must sell because my wife and I are buying a house.  Please help!
-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Time is but a river, in which I go afishin'.       -Henry David Thoreau
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Steve Windhager            fi33@vaxb.acs.unt.edu           fi33@untvax
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
From: garrett@math.rice.edu (David Garrett)
Subject: Re: MSF Rider Training.
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, Rice University
Distribution: tx
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:17:18 GMT

In article <C1DttA.2Jp@adikia.sccsi.com> craig@adikia.sccsi.com (Craig Groeschel) writes:

>(I may not remember this exactly right.)  My MSF course instructor said
>it was a bad idea to cover the clutch & brake with two fingers because
>if you had to squeeze, you wouldn't have as much control or leverage.
>Also, depending on how fat your fingers/gloves are, the ones still
>wrapped around the hand grip might get in the way of the lever, so you
>couldn't get full travel.
>
>It's best to use all [yf]our fingers.

I'll buy that regarding the clutch, but if you have enough brake lever 
travel to where the lever is coming into contact with your remaining 
fingers wrapped around the throttle, your front brakes are most probably 
shot, and chances are you're not going to be able to stop quickly in a 
panic braking situation, whether you're using one finger or four.

Dave Garrett
garrett@math.rice.edu
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Moving
Date: 23 Jan 1993 19:50:26 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu
Originator: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu


Not me!! Well, not yet!

Got an e-mail from Rodney Pesavento.  Said he's leaving Jan 23 . . . 
ummmmmm, today!! for a new job with VLSI Technologies in Tempe, AZ.

For those of you who don't know Rodney, or can't seem to remember
back that far???,  he was the original Splattee.

Anyway, Rodney asked that I pass on his new address and phone number.
He said to give him a call if any of us are ever in the Tempe area.
hehehe . . . . . I got an idea for Splatterfest V!!!! ;-)

		Rodney Pesavento
		2021 East Magdalena
		Tempe, AZ  82583
		(602) 345-6240
From: kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: MSF Rider Training.
Date: 21 Jan 1993 23:22:51 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas
NNTP-Posting-Host: swrinde.nde.swri.edu

In article <VgwNXB2w165w@underg.ucf.org> jc@underg.ucf.org (Mike Herman) writes:
>I got a questoin here:
>
>I have from time to time depending on the situatoin
>"covered" the front brake and clutch with two fingers.
>
>I have heard that that can be a bad idea, but not  why.

I'd be interested in talking with someone who thinks this is a bad idea.
Reaction tests were done back in the '70s or early '80s which clearly showed
that, on the average, a motorcyclist presented with an unknown danger took
one second to decide to respond and another second to move the fingers onto
the brake and clutch levers prior to applying the levers. 'Covering' the
levers consistently removed a full second of reaction time from the process.

Now consider: How far do you travel in one second at 45mph?

Babes... it's a looong way.
--------------------------------

So. Do I cover the levers? Not always, but in high traffic, etc. areas, I
most certainly do, and it has saved my butt more times than I can count.
(ok, so I can't count very high :^)

Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute (will disavow any knowledge of me)
Internet : kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu
(DoF #)  : Neither motorcycling or old age is for sissies. Just ask my Momma
From: joe@rider.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: MSF Rider Training.
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:39:28 GMT
Reply-To: joe@rider.cactus.org
Distribution: world
Organization: NOT

kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:
]Ok, Joe. Since you spoke up, you get to fill in the blank:
]
]1) How for does Joe travel in one second? ________ km

how long is a football field again?

Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
From: garrett@math.rice.edu (David Garrett)
Subject: Re: MSF Rider Training.
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, Rice University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:30:10 GMT

In article <1jnb8bINNnsq@swrinde.nde.swri.edu> kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:
>I'd be interested in talking with someone who thinks this is a bad idea.
>Reaction tests were done back in the '70s or early '80s which clearly showed
>that, on the average, a motorcyclist presented with an unknown danger took
>one second to decide to respond and another second to move the fingers onto
>the brake and clutch levers prior to applying the levers. 'Covering' the
>levers consistently removed a full second of reaction time from the process.
>
>Now consider: How far do you travel in one second at 45mph?
>
>Babes... it's a looong way.
>
>So. Do I cover the levers? Not always, but in high traffic, etc. areas, I
>most certainly do, and it has saved my butt more times than I can count.
>(ok, so I can't count very high :^)

I'll second that. I almost always cover the front brake lever, if not the 
clutch as well. I'd like to know exactly what the MSF's rationale is for 
teaching riders not to cover the brakes. I've come damn close to rear-ending 
someone, or t-boning someone that pulled out in front of me more than a 
few times, and I can guarantee that if I hadn't been covering the brakes 
I would've been fresh roadkill shortly thereafter.

Dave
From: kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: MSF Rider Training.
Date: 22 Jan 1993 16:22:56 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: swrinde.nde.swri.edu

In article <960@rider.UUCP> joe@rider.cactus.org writes:
>kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:
>]Now consider: How far do you travel in one second at 45mph?
>
>who the hell goes just 45mph?

Me; in heavy traffic.

Ok, Joe. Since you spoke up, you get to fill in the blank:

1) How for does Joe travel in one second? ________ km

:^)

Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute (will disavow any knowledge of me)
Internet : kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu
(DoF #)  : Neither motorcycling or old age is for sissies.
Xref: sparky tx.test:84 dfw.test:324 austin.test:229 houston.test:131 alt.test:19349
From: st1pn@jane.uh.edu (Tan hat, gray coat, black Converse....)
Newsgroups: uh.test,tx.test,dfw.test,austin.test,houston.test,alt.test
Subject: oggle oggle oggle oggle [No Reply]
Date: 26 Jan 1993 11:43 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: jane.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Old psychologists never die; they're forever Jung.

Ni pun-pun, ni lero-lero, ni naris asoleado.

Satis verborum.

--
:::::::::::st1pn@jetson.uh.edu::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
"Why not nip into McDonalds just to use the    "My mom's a lawyer.  If I
 toilet?  It's a good symbolic gesture."        fail, I'm going to sue."
   --Deadline                                     --What A Guy!
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: The Biased Media
Date: 23 Jan 1993 13:45:06 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <C1A3KD.LwH@austin.ibm.com> johniac@austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti) writes:
>What does this have to do with bias?  Bias is what they write and say, not
>what they ARE.

What they are inevitably and unavoidably influences what they write.

>If three-fourths of the journalists were men, would you then
>conclude that the media is biased against women?

The feminists think so.

>If three-fourths of the
>journalists are white, would you then conclude that they are biased against
>non-whites?

The minority activists think so.
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
    "I don't want to read poor Microsoft bashing. I want to read good
Microsoft bashing." -- Douglas A. Bell, in comp.os.os2.advocacy (Me too!)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
From: moller@austin.ibm.com (Chris Moller)
Subject: Re: State Income Tax
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:09:34 GMT
Distribution: tx
Reply-To: moller@austin.ibm.com
Organization: As little as I can get away with.

In article <1993Jan22.172836.16481@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
> In article <1993Jan19.232339.17006@montagar.com> davidc@montagar.com (David L. Cathey) writes:
> >In article <1993Jan18.134311.6670@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
> >> There's a difference between feeling that everyone should be entitled
> >> to some minimum level of something (food, housing, education, etc.)
> >> and feeling that everyone should have a Porsche.  My complaint is that
> >> too many of those 'wealthy people' want to change the laws so that
> >> they don't have to chip in to provide those minimums so that other
> >> people have a chance at life.
> >
> >	Actually, with the "steal from the rich" basis of taxation, it sounds
> >like the rich are a little miffed that they required by law to support all
> >those that can't/won't support themselves.  Isn't what entitlments are all
> >about?  Isn't that what the "Luxury Tax", Capital Gains taxes, and the 50%
> >tax bracket are all about?
> >
> >	Hell, cut out the middle man (the Fed), and let the rich spend, spend,
> >spend on products that workers like us provide and put wages into our pockets.
> >Joe Employee is more likely to see a cut from a dollar spent on a yacht, than
> >from the luxury tax that was placed upon it.
> >
> >	Something like a "Free Enterprise" system could probably work.
> 
> Well, unfortunately for that plan, the rich can only 'consume' so many
> products, and it's not enough to keep everyone in jobs that pay a
> living wage.  See "Industrial Revolution, Abuses During".

See also "Welfare System, Abuses Of."

> 
> -- 
> "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
>  in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.

-- 
IBM pays absolutely no attention to my	|   "Politicians are the same the 
opinions, ergo the foregoing cannot	|   world over:  they promise to 
possibly represent its position.	|   build a bridge even when there
					|   is no river."
Christian H. L. Moller			|     -- Nikita Khrushchev
Newsgroups: tx.politics
From: dewey@sooner.ctci.com (Dewey Coffman)
Subject: Lone Star 2000?
Keywords: People Power, I&R
Reply-To: dewey@sooner.ctci.com
Organization: CTC, Texas, Inc., Austin, Texas USA 78757-3109
Distribution: tx
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:11:18 GMT


		    From Austin American-Statesman, Jan 26, 1993
			IN SESSION, Notes on the Legislature

	A group called Lone Star 2000 will announce a campaign today to
	get the Legislature to yield some of its power to the people. The
	organization wants Texans to have the rights of initiative and 
	referendum -- I&R for short -- as do the residents of other states.

	Intiative is a way for people to propose a law; referendum is a way 
	for them to repeal a law. With I&R, residents petition for the change
	put on a statewide ballot.
	
	Tom Wright, a member of Lone Star 2000, said Texans could use I&R to
	mandate term limits for Texans for politicians and prevent a state
	income tax. "With I&R as a tool -- or weapon -- in hands of the voters,
	our government would be forced to act credibly and with our best
	interest," he said.

	The last time the Legislature considered I&R was 1981, when the 
	proposal failed in the House despite strong support by Republican
	Gov. Bill Clements.
	----------------------------------------------------------------

	Comments: Sounds like a good thing to me. Anyone know how well this
		  works in other states? What are the Pitfalls of this, if
		  any? Anyone know anything more about this group?
-- 
Dewey Coffman dewey@ctci.com  All opinions expressed are unrelated to reality.
CTC, Texas Inc.			  "That voodoo stuff don't do nothing for me."
"If you fail to plan, plan to fail" 	PANIC: waiting for a good idea.
"A fart is the cry of an imprisoned turd." muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au(Murray Chapman)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
From: moller@austin.ibm.com (Chris Moller)
Subject: Re: Repost from alt.beer(Beer laws in Texas)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:11:34 GMT
Distribution: tx
Reply-To: moller@austin.ibm.com
Organization: As little as I can get away with.

In article <1993Jan26.140446.10778@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
> In <C1F24n.C2x@austin.ibm.com> moller@austin.ibm.com (Chris Moller) writes:
> 
> >In article <1993Jan22.143617.9437@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
> 
> >[...]
> 
> >> 
> >> >
> >> >Does the prohibition of the sale and possession of automatic firearms
> >> >work?  Perhaps legalizing these (possession, not commiting crimes with
> >> >them) might improve the attitude of our youth towards law enforcement 
> >> >and laws in general.
> >> 
> >> Uh, you can buy and sell automatic firearms all you like.  All you
> >> need is the license.
> 
> >Well, not really...
> 
> When did they change it?  Used to be, all you needed was a special
> Federal license (which they charged you an arm and a leg for) and you
> could have automatic weapons.  What does it say now?

Oh, that's still the way it works -- in theory.  In practice, however,
acquiring Uzis, MAC-10s, not to mention the ubiquitous AK-47s, without
benefit of Federal permission isn't all that difficult to do.  Didn't
20/20 or some such show recently run a thing on armed-to-the-teeth school
kids?

I point this out mostly to provide one more example of how useless it is
to try to regulate private posession of practically anything.

> 
> -- 
> "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
>  in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.

-- 
IBM pays absolutely no attention to my	|   "In our country we have those three
opinions, ergo the foregoing cannot	|   unspeakably precious things: free-
possibly represent its position.	|   dom of speech, freedom of con-
					|   science, and the prudence to never
					|   practice either."
Christian H. L. Moller			|     -- Mark Twain
Newsgroups: tx.politics,talk.politics.misc
From: johniac@austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti)
Subject: Re: equality of opportunity  (was: Re: State Income Tax)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:06:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM Advanced Workstations and Systems, Austin, TX
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Followup-To: tx.politics,talk.politics.misc

In article <1993Jan21.143712.4409@rpp386>, jfh@rpp386 (John F. Haugh II) writes:
|> Good, now write me a check for $1,200 so you can pay my school tax bill.
|> Until then, quit saying that taxpayers shouldn't have choice.

Gladly.  And you give me my $1000 (soon to be more like $1700) back and we'll
both save up and you can send your kid(s) to Superstition High, and I'll send
my kids to The Academy of Rationality, and . . .

Wait a minute....can you explain again how this is going to help the poor get
a Catholic education?  Remember them?  The Poor?  The people whose interests
you claim to be arguing for here?  The NON-taxpayers who you say should also 
have a choice?

And while you're thinking about that, explain why you OPPOSE giving people
vouchers so that they can buy FOOD, but you support giving them vouchers so
that they can be taught Catholicism.

|> Many catholic schools take kids FOR FREE!  In New Orleans, there are many
|> "disadvantaged" kids in catholic schools.

So what?  They still don't put up with the disadvantaged (and advantaged) 
students who just don't give a damn.  The public schools HAVE to.  Motivated
kids will always do well on standardized tests no matter how much money 
their parents make or where they go to school.

|>                                 Wouldn't it have been much better if the
|> school got the money that was instead given to public schools so it could
|> let MORE of these students in?

No.  If the Catholic church wants to spread their Catholicism around, then
the Catholics can kick in a few extra bucks in the collection plate every week.

|> Since Curt posts lots of stuff with lots of references, I tend to believe
|> what Curt posts.

So do I.  If Curt had ever posted anything about the percentage of people who
take advantage of school voucher systems, you might have a point.

--
John Iacoletti       IBM AWS Austin       Internet: johniac@austin.ibm.com
        My opinions do not reflect the views of the IBM Corporation
"Why should I be tarred with the epithet 'loony', merely because I have a pet
 halibut?"
Newsgroups: tx.politics
From: rocky@NeoSoft.com (Joe Mullally)
Subject: Re: Rip Van Winkles (was Re: State Income Tax)
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Distribution: tx
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:35:16 GMT

In article <yo5ks*KA1@caleb.UUCP> jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:
>In article <C12LvM.IIJ@sugar.neosoft.com>, Joe Mullally writes:
>
>> available in _every_ market is about like telling us your income. Name a 
>> major city in the top 40 that doesn't carry him.
>
>That is easy.  Washington D.C.
>
	Good boy. Now- see this stick? See it fly though the air. Now-
FETCH, boy! (-: 


-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joe Mullally (rocky@sugar.neosoft.com) PH:713-681-2495
"He used to be my boss, and now he's a puppet dancer"- Bowie (David)
From: mccoy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jim McCoy)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: The Biased Media
Date: 24 Jan 1993 03:03:24 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas - Austin
Distribution: tx
Reply-To: mccoy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jim McCoy)
NNTP-Posting-Host: tramp.cc.utexas.edu
Originator: mccoy@tramp.cc.utexas.edu


In article <t-4ls*fC1@caleb.UUCP>, jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:
> In article <C16I4H.1uo1@austin.ibm.com>, John Iacoletti writes:
> > 
> > It WAS a landslide electorally.  Where was your indignation when Ronald
> > Reagan won in a "landslide" in 1980 with 51% of the vote?
> 
> 51% is a whole lot better than 43%.

8% :)  Either way, it doesnt really change one simplt fact.  William
Jefferson Clinton is the president of the United States of America for the
next 4 years.  Now can we get back to the regularly scheduled hysterics...

>  Reagan had very long coattails.  In
> 1980, the Republicans took many seats in Congress from the Democrats.

The Republicans in 1980 still did not capture control of a Congressional
majority.  Incedentally they lost the advantage they gained in 80 in 2
years.  Guess those coattails weren't as long as you thought...

> Clinton couldn't even help his candidate win in Georgia.

Georgia?  Who gives a damn about Georgia?  The Democrats biggest "failure"
of the last election was in not getting a filibuster-proof majority in the
Senate.  A minor loss in the grand scheme of federal political power...

jim

-- 
Jim McCoy                |  PGP 2.0 Key md5 hash:
mccoy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu |  61323c49024cb089337c78a05aafe8c6
j-mccoy@nwu.edu          |  finger mccoy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu for public key


Newsgroups: tx.politics,talk.politics.misc