From: roarf@stud.cs.uit.no (Roar Foshaug)
Subject: Re: splitting the group
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 17:55:21 GMT

In article <gate.cR8uPB1w165w@toz.buffalo.ny.us>, cyberman@toz.buffalo.ny.us (Cyberman) writes:
|> 
|>      -=> King_claudius (chris Kni spoke of "Re: splitting the group" <=-
|>     To All at 08-20-92  21:27
|>  K(K> ***********************************************************************
|>  K(K> **** PLAIN AND SIMPLE:
|> 
|> Really?  I see we need a moderator.  Because some poeple just
|> can't control themselves from being dictators of what other
|> poeple should do.
|> 

Thought police, eh ?

|> The real issue here is not "appropriate postings" it is one of
|> dogmatic elimination and bigotry.  All I have seen is posturing
|> and name calling.  Look let's all think for a change.  BOTH
|> groups [factions] have valid arguements.
|> 

Oh ?

|> Now THINKING what should be in this group?  Pure game thinking?
|> I tried that once and got flamed by the same poeple who are
|> flaming poeple posting PC specifc stuff.  I think you need to

My heart bleeds for you...

|> stop thinking of this group as your PERSONAL ELITE group.  It's
|> not, it's for EVERYONE.  I for one would like to see less

Please tell me : Just who is EVERYONE? Does it include people who
wants to discuss religion, culture, music, X11, etc etc?

|> complaining and more PREVALENT posting.  If your complaining
|> about the number of posts try looking at Comp.programing.C++!  OR
|> SCI.electronics!  These are crowded yet I read them everyday. and
|> sometimes every other day.
|> 
|> Moderating a news group as someone stated earlier is VERY
|> difficult.  Now a specific group of poeple want to split others
|> don't.  Why shouldn't the group split?  When I originally was on
|> this news group 12 months ago thier was 1 - 2 posts a day.
|> Sometimes not for DAYS.
|> 

Well, the point is of course that those that are not interested in the
VGA graphics card still read 1-2 posts a day, but have to filter out all
the "noise". Can't you see that?  With a split, however, each can receive
what they want by subscribing to the groups that interest them. Why else
do you think there exist such things as groups at all? Why not having
everybody receive everything???


My opinion on the matter is that there do _exist_ groups for most discussions,
but _people_refuse_to_use_them_ !!! I guess that's ok when seeing internet
as an anarchy, but it generates a lot of irritation and flames (as this
one ;-)

|> Perhaps a "set of rules" should be posted?
|> 

Does not such a set of rules exist? Some time, long ago, in the ancient
days, there must have been a vote over this group. What did one vote over
then? 

|> When asking platform specific questions ...
|> 
|> Simple self control is very important.
|> I do think many of the posts are not 100% apropriate.

Of course not. They never will be. Topics overlap, and will always do. But
here we have identified one "group of posts" that in many peoples opinion
does not belong on r.g.p, and these are urged to another group (existing
or to be created).

|>         Stephen Cyberman@Toz.Buffalo.NY.US
|>         Scripted at Fri  08-21-1992  11:49:52
|> 
|> ... If you can't make it good, make it big.
|> --- Blue Wave/QWK v2.10
|>                                                                                                             

-- 
Roar Foshaug                                      (roarf@stud.cs.uit.no)
Department of Computer Science
University of Tromsoe                             'oe' is '\o{}' in Tex
N-9000 TROMSOE, NORWAY                            'OE' is '\O{}' in Tex