HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: randy@elk.imagen.com (randy scofield)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:56:33 GMT
Reply-To: randy@elk.imagen.com (randy scofield)
Organization: imagen

In article <kiran.715449839@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
>>
>>If you have needs before a relationship starts, you're "desperate."
>>If you don't have needs after it starts, you're "emotionally
>>unavailable."  
>dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
>You make it sound like a person only has one relationship.  Not true.  What
>about your friends, your parents, your grandparents, your co-workers, your
>neighbors, your classmates, your dog, your cat, your gerbil, your dancing
>partners or whoever the heck you interact with?  While I admit I haven't
>had sex with my dog (not that she hasn't offered) (the cat's playing hard
>to get) there are certainly times when these people/beings are BETTER at
>meeting your other types of needs than most sweeties would be.

You mentioned a gerbil.   Are you one of THOSE people?  Ooooh how kinky!
 
Randy

If a trainstation is a place where trains stop,
What happens at a workstation?
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Powerful forces of nature conspire
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:12:18 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug28.155227.3103@u.washington.edu> intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:
 
[a bunch stuff about why living in snow country isn't all it's cracked up to be]

A few years ago I was part of a group that leased a ski cabin near South Lake
Tahoe for a few seasons. The first weekend of the lease was New Years weekend
and all of the members were there.  The first couple of nights there were 14
people in a three bedroom on bathroom house.  The day we planned on leaving
we went skiing and it began to snow pretty heavily.  We headed back to the
cabin early to pack up.  By the time we reached the cabin an avalanche closed
the road behind us.  Both other routes out of Tahoe were closed a short time
later.  The electricity went off that night.  In the morning we went out to
find that the snow was piled up to our door handles on our cars.  The roads
were still closed but we went out and started digging our cars out.  About
lunch time we were able to move our cars out of the driveway but there was
three feet of snow on the road.  We took a break and by the time we finished
lunch another foot of snow had fallen. We gave up for the day and tried to 
make the best of the situation and built "dollie" and "holmes", our snow people.
We woke up the next two days to find snow up to the our door handles each 
morning.  It wasn't a whole lot of fun.  Fortunately most of the people had
managed to get out before the roads closed so there were only seven of us
remaining.  However,  there was one couple that had previously broken up and
the guy was there with his new girlfriend.  She had just started skiing and
broke her leg the day before it started skiing.  We managed to stay sane though.
We had food (a large box of mothers cookies compliment of a member that was
a mothers cookies truck driver) and plenty of firewood and we managed to 
entertain ourselves.  The mothers cookies truck driver is one of the funniest
people I've ever met.  We had a Family Fued home game and this guy was 
"Richard" and of course had to kiss the women before every question.  After
four days of being snowed in the roads finally opened and we could finally
leave.  Too much snow can get old real fast.  Maybe some other time I'll
tell you about the luge course out back next to the stump where we did
tequila poppers all afternoon and how I ended up stuck midway up a tree.

-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
From: lana@magenta.corp.sgi.com (Lana Mountford)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Cooking for 1!
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:19:25 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <14428@auspex-gw.auspex.com>, johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
|> In article <5049@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
|> |If someone around here knew of a good place for wings, I'd probably hock
|> |one of my parrots and buy some!  I'm broke, but I'm also awfully tired 
|> |of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.  (And of eating alone)!
|> 
|> We'll why don't you ask someone out.  Wait,  you already did that didn't
|> you?  Eating alone sucks doesn't it.  Especially for someone that likes
|> to cook.  
|> 

This, to me, is probably the second worst thing about not being in a
relationship.  I --++**LOVE**++-- to cook, have a fairly substantial 
cookbook collection, and live near some incredible fresh goodies
(fish, veggies, etc.).  I entertain about one weekend a month (small
dinner parties, mostly), and that's fun.  The rest of the time, I cook
and freeze a lot.  At least, I have the chance to experiment on my own.

-- 

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
|    /)                      | Lana Mountford    
|   / /  __    ___    __     | Silicon Graphics  
|__(_/__(__)\__/  )__(__)\__ | Mountain View, CA 
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From: jbuck@forney.berkeley.edu (Joe Buck)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Commitment--The C-word?
Date: 25 Aug 1992 22:52:23 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: forney.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Aug25.212033.6006@cs.ucla.edu> gds@cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner) writes:
>Ed Wright, for example, claims that without exception, every woman
>he's asked out has rejected him because he's not in shape (read:
>athletic enough).

Hey, Gregbo, how's it going?

In this particular example, and in many others, I'm far more inclined to
believe people's reporting of the facts (e.g. every woman that Ed asked
out declined the invitation) than their interpretation of why (he's not in
shape).  I mean, no one's a mind reader; we don't even always understand
our own minds all that well, so any "why" is at most an opinion.  Now, I
haven't seen Ed Wright; for all I know, you may open the dictionary and
look up the phrase "out of shape" and see his picture :-).

But there are too many incredibly poor physical specimens out there
getting plenty of action with M's OTOS (MOTOS's?  MOTOSes?) for me to
believe this one.

>His case is (probably) extreme, but I think in general it is possible
>for some people not to be able to find an SO in their current
>environment, due to the lack of availability of compatible people, or
>the lack of means to make connections with compatible people.

I'm not going to say you're wrong; after all, a straight man who'se
serving on a submarine for a six-month tour of duty with an all-male crew
isn't going to see much action.  But for less extreme circumstances, I
think that the main problem is usually people defining "compatible" too
narrowly, or being too rigid in some other sense.  Or people choose to
put other things first -- if you're putting 80 hours a week into making
your startup company go, then you're CHOOSING not to look for an SO right
now.  And that's OK, but it's your choice.

>For example, you might be riding the bus and be sitting right next to
>someone who'd be a compatible mate, but you might never connect, 
>unless you live in Trygve's universe. :-)

I suspect that Trygve regularly talks to people that are next to him on
the bus (or would if he rode a bus), and many of the rest of us don't.
This does affect the odds (Oh, no, I've said *odds*!  Prepare for an
attack of statistical theories again).



--
Joe Buck	jbuck@ohm.berkeley.edu
From: wtr@mitre.org (Bill Ralston)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Las Vegas
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:18:01 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

>Speaking of Las Vegas, what can someone that doesn't gamble do in that
>city ? (In that area ?)

Well, there are some legal brothels about an hour or so north of the city, 
and a large number of strip bars... but if you don't gamble maybe you're 
not interested in that either. :)

For the most part, Vegas is about money and sex.  The classic Las Vegas 
review has a bunch of topless women in it, although they are much classier 
than a strip bar.  The Follies Bergere was a fun show (singing, dancing, 
and some gratuitous toplessness) - basically a musical with relatively 
little plot.  If you're not into going to shows or gambling, there isn't a 
lot left to do.  BTW, you don't have to drop a lot of money to gamble - 
$20.00 downtown will last you all night (once you learn the games).

If you can get a car, there are a number of pretty areas outside of Las 
Vegas, ranging from 1/2 hour to all day drives (I'm not sure how far, but 
the Grand Canyon (AZ), Bryce National Part (UT?), and Zion National Park 
are within a days drive and absolutely beutiful.  LAX is a 5 hour drive 
away.

Assuming you don't find gambling repulsive, you should wander around the 
casinos in the evening anyway - especially the Mirage and Caesers Palace - 
they are pretty impressive.

Fodors has a Las Vegas guide I would recommend picking up.  Have fun.

Bill
---------------
wtr@mitre.org
** Opinions are mine only, and not my employer's **
From: wjb@moscom.UUCP (Bill de Beaubien)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Why lurkers lurk ...
Date: 30 Aug 92 00:42:35 GMT
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford, NY
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

David Cook (dcook@spam.ua.oz) wrote:
: People outside the US have the disadvantage of seeing news with
: a large delay after it was posted, eg locally, the most recent 
: articles I see are already 2 days old. Whenever I'm about to
: post, I think about whether there's any point in continuing a
: thread that may have died out days before I join it. Also,
: many of the threads get hashed out very quickly by those
: geographically near to each other.

Actually, people in the US have that disadvantage too, depending on
how many sites the articles have to trickle through.  Also, with the
large volume, it sometimes takes days to get to some articles anyway :-)
 
: btw: Someone mentioned 200 articles/day being the norm for soc.singles ..
: Are a lot of people using strange 'Distribution:' lines or something ?
: We don't get nearly that many (and reading doesn't take long, with
: liberal use of 'k' (in rn) :-).

Sounds about right to me.  Maybe 150 on a light day, though.
-- 
"Bless me, Father; I ate a lizard."
"Was it an abstinence day, and was it artificially prepared?"
-------------------------------------------------------------
Bill de Beaubien / wjb@moscom.com
From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Bananas
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:36:26 GMT
Organization: Trivializers R Us

In article <kiran.714829832@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
>pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) writes:
>>Of course, on rethinking the situation, I've realized that such
>>a kind, gentle, tolerant person as Max would never be jealous.
>>Nevermind.
>
>You forgot "sweet"... and "cute" too.

I didn't forget.
I just didn't want to sound like a suckup.

paul      excuse me, but this handbasket is taken
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: walter (Walter Lego)
Subject: The German connection (was Re: Las Vegas)
Followup-To: soc.singles
Reply-To: nobody
Organization: Twisted Pair Inc.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 11:52:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.014245.7125@cbfsb.cb.att.com> yyz@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (donald.w.coons) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.225138.1110@news.acns.nwu.edu> drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:
>>
>>Max - oh I feel sooo unethical - But while I'm at it someone ask james why
>>he's suddenly interested in German culture.
>
>Good idea I am getting tired of him singing Danke Schoen as he walks past 
>my office.
>

Hmmm... the things you can get with mail-order these days....

						Walter

What disclaimer?
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jcmarx@bnr.ca (JC Marx)
Subject: Re: Las Vegas
Reply-To: jcmarx@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 16:46:15 GMT

|> >Cindy Glass (cfg@cray.com) wrote:
|> 
|> Oh YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!  Northern Georgia is beautiful!  Mountains, rivers/streams,
|> crystal lakes, huge pine trees, Smokey Mountains - and don't forget the red
|> Georgia clay or the hawks soaring on the termals!
|> 
|> I was there 2 weekends ago and can't wait to go back!!  Stayed in a very
|> nice cabin close to Unicoy Park - WOW!!
|> 

You mean "Unicoi". It *is* a most excellent place - I was raised there - my dad
ran the park (it was my playgound. Helen is beautiful, too. You should also try
the scenic highway to Brass Town Bald (highest point in Ga).

JC
From: dbj@cs.washington.edu (Dave Johnson)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Info about gift boxes: LDR
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:52:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: beaver.1992Sep4.205256.2051
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

In article <01GOE53LU0AA9BWHEU@SSCVAX.CIS.MCMASTER.CA> RSA@SSCVAX.CIS.MCMASTER.CA writes:
>Hi
>About this LDR. One person suggested that it is a good idea
>to send a gift box with lots of little things. 
>What kind of little things one should include in a box like that?
>Can I have a few suggestions? 

Batteries.
-- 
  Dave Johnson

"You're not too smart, are you?  I like that in a man."
    --Kathleen Turner in Body Heat 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: schock@cpsc.UCalgary.ca (schock)
Subject: Re: men in their thirties who never dated
Organization: The University of Calgary
	<kiran.714122823@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> <dhar.29@oregon.uoregon.edu>
	<kiran.714655313@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 05:16:36 GMT

>  > <No signature on this quote>
>   >Didn't know that one needed a dark side to date. what kind of men do u know/
>   >date????

WO-men

:-)
Craig
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: California Here I Come, Again (San Diego, to be exact)
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:08:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <17cpdoINN24b@network.ucsd.edu> mbk@lyapunov.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) writes:
|But most everybody I've seen there had normal beach attire save the
|regular band of middle aged gay men playing horseshoes.

At last, we find a useful purpose for the "hard-on at the beach".  Must be
real painful when someone gets a ringer.

-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Houghton and dah UP (was Re: Las Vegas )
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 07:32:11 GMT

wjb@moscom.UUCP (Bill de Beaubien) writes:

>Hunh.  Small world, isn't it?  That makes you the second person from 
>soc.singles that I know has been there, and I'm not sure how close
>Cindy has been/will be on her trip to dah great U.P.

One other regular has family up there, near Houghton I think.

>I think it's the heaviest lift bridge, though not the longest.  It replaced
>a bridge which rotated, until it didn't and was hit by an ore-carrier. This
>was considerably before my time;  I've never figured out how people got back
>and forth while they built the new one :-)

Drove around?  Or can you do that?

>As for eating places, the Library is definitely worth the trip.  If you like
>folk music, try for Thursday and sit upstairs.  At least, that's when Gary
>Tunstall used to play when I was there...

I've heard of it but not been there, alas.
-- 
Kiran Wagle     <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>     (812) 335-0420
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Tallllll women....
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:04:29 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <ymmnyd-@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
|It doesn't matter- but it is _much_ nicer to date a woman that you can look
|straight in the eye, and not straight over her head.

Another nice about being with a woman that you are the same height as is
that your lips are both at the same altitude so that kiss on the first
date is a little less awkward.  Should things progress a bit other strategic
parts are within easy access while you are both are standing.  Imagine if
you will, a 6'3" man trying to grab the butt of a 5'1" woman without going
through major contortions.  It might be easier for the shorter person to
get to strategic parts but when you're both the same height things just
"fit" a little better.  We'll most things.

-- 
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| John Fereira     | Auspex Systems | "Auspex does not share my opinions.  |
| johnf@auspex.com | Santa Clara CA |  So Why am I still working here?"    |
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From: RSA@SSCVAX.CIS.MCMASTER.CA
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Info about gift boxes: LDR
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:06:37 GMT

Hi
About this LDR. One person suggested that it is a good idea
to send a gift box with lots of little things. 
What kind of little things one should include in a box like that?
Can I have a few suggestions? 

Thanks,

RSA
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max)
Subject: Re: pizza and chocolate and cheese - oh my!
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:46:09 GMT

In article <71690@apple.Apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>hymowitz@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (Hymie!) writes:
>>   can anyone suggest an aphrodisiac other than the 'big three' for those
>>   of us unable to enjoy the finer (i.e. dairy) things in life?
>
>Oysters, raw eggs, and a copy of _Tampopo_.
>
No kidding, wasn't the a great movie! (don't think the raw egg really works
though myself)
From: liz@prc.unisys.com (Liz Loquacious)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Seesters, I want the seesters.
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:03:33 GMT
Followup-To: soc.singles
Distribution: na
Organization: Paramax Systems

In article pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) writes:
|> In article jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
|> > What say the park? High noon? I'll bring the chandelier. You bring the
|> >rope?
|> 
|> I'll have you know that according to the Supreme Court the appropriate
|> location for high noon is Times Square, but only if you are at the same
|> time engaging in a valid political dialog.
|> 

Well, this might have qualified Paul; it sounded like he was gearing up
for the War of the Roses to me, though probably not just dialog!  Alas,
the whole things off, poor poor me...:-(

Liz Loquacious - whatever will I do now
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: chapin@cbnewsc.cb.att.com ( Tom Chapin )
Subject: Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
Organization:  Hickory Ridge - Lisle, IL
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 04:01:14 GMT

Stef writes:
>So what makes you think she was desperate? 
>
>Because she wanted you to "make a pass" at her? 
>Because she called you a couple of times? 
>
>A guy usually has to do a lot more than that to a woman before she 
>thinks of him as desperate. 

Not really.  I've had women conclude I was desperate from little
more than a smoldering glance and an overeager willingness to let
them choose the restaurant.  Very few men have to become a stalker
in order for women to brag to their girlfriends about the guy who
was "too desperate" for them.

In fact, there are an appallingly large number of aging girls and
boys who find it impossible to simply accept the fact that they
are unable to return someone's desire, and feel the need to justify
their rejection by pretending the other person has done some evil
villainous act which merits said rejection--such as being "desperate."

-- 
	     tom chapin                tjc@hrccb.att.com
	      (effective Aug 1, 1992:  tjc@hrcce.att.com)
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: SOC.SINGLES
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:14:16 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <76@cnmhnet.UUCP> keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:
|In article <1992Aug31.154436.19762@u.washington.edu> intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:
|
|>Angelwing - Best wishes to your bride, btw
|
|Oh my goodness!  This ^^^ is why I am so impressed with Angelwing!
|I've only mentioned once, that I was recently married and that I 
|am a newleywed, and Angelwing picked right up on it!  A very
|smart lady, and very quick!  
 
I picked up on it also but didn't bother mentioning it.  Does that mean
I smart, and very quick as well?

|By the way, am I the only one who likes the little sayings that
|Angelwing puts beside her signature?  

No you're just the only one that tells everyone on the net about it.

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| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Las Vegas
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:36:15 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug25.212538.27393@zooid.guild.org> ross@zooid.guild.org (Ross Ridge) writes:
>
>Bah, I'd take Northern Ontario (or even any place north of Barrie), over
>the Rockies.  I've never understood the appeal of mountains like that,
>they're so dead and lifeless.

Lifeless?  Your kidding, right?  How much time have you actually spent in
the Rockies?  I've found that the higher elevations of the Sierras are
similar to the Rockies and I've spent a lot of time in the Sierras.  They
certainly aren't lifeless.  Sometimes you have to look a little harder and
sometimes a sparcity of life is welcome.  Why do you think they call it 
"getting away from it all"?
-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What knockers!  Crreak.
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:34:10 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <MARTINC.92Sep4095624@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>
>(P.S.  I'm not dead yet.)

Well, you've sure been doing a good imitation of it, lately.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

So much Astroglide.  So little time.
From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Bananas
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:55:38 GMT
Organization: Trivializers R Us

In article <1992Aug26.152200.25679@news.acns.nwu.edu> drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:
>In article <kiran.714829832@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
>>pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) writes:
>>>Of course, on rethinking the situation, I've realized that such
>>>a kind, gentle, tolerant person as Max would never be jealous.
>>>Nevermind.
>>
>>You forgot "sweet"... and "cute" too.
>>
>Well yeah but what pray tell does that have to do with the capacity to feel
>jealousy?  I mean really one has to covet something that someone has in
>order to feel jealous no? What exactly Paul did you imagine that I might covet?

The attention, nay adulation lavished on bananarasts,
the position of, uh, top banana, er, alpha woman, so to speak?

paul