From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rap
Subject: Re: Body Count
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:29:09 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School

In <BMp+Gz_@engin.umich.edu> jfine@engin.umich.edu (Sinister Stairs) writes:

>    I've given the entire CD a listen, and this is my personal opinion.  I
>believe this album will most likely appeal to:  a) People looking for
>interesting cross-over material.  b) Fans of both rap and metal.  c) *Very*
>hardcore Ice-T fans.  c) Metal posers who want other people to think they are
>bad-ass, hardcore players (frontin').

I'll buy this. I can't stand metal but I like Ice-T and I like Body Count.
Go figure.

>    As far as being a rap album, this is terrible, obviously, because Ice-T
>doesn't even rap.  

Funny. I though he rapped too much and didn't sing enough.

>As far as being a metal album goes, it is only mediocre, the
>music is okay, but Ice-T doesn't sing/scream enough and the metal intensity
>isn't there.  It's actually tough to describe the vocals on this album, Ice-T
>doesn't really rap or sing, it's somewhere in between.  

It isn't what you'd expect from a metal singer, that's for sure. When he
does actually staop rapping and starts singing for real his voice doesn't
sound quite right. ie: "High As the Sky"

>    As far as cross-over albums go, this one is pretty good.  The hard guitars
>for metal are there, and Ice-T has lyrics typically found in rap songs (as
>opposed to metal songs).  It's about rebellion and being a bad-ass motherfucker.

Metal with a message I can understand. Most metal goes past me without
registering (so does C&W).

>It's about killing cops.  If you are looking for a rap or metal album, avoid
>this like the plague.  If you are looking for a unique cross-over album, this
>could be the one for you.

Ice-T was most upset with the LAPD when he cut this album. It makes O.G.
look mild by comparison (in places). But the opening sound byte kills me
every time I play it.
I play Ice-T, Ice Cube, PE, and all sorts of outlandish stuff in my car
but Body Count is the first thing that I've had blaring away that seemed a
little rude to play in public. Normally I don't really care what some blue
nose thinks about my taste in music but Body Count is ROUGH.

>    "Walk this Way", _Raising_Hell_ by Run-DMC w/ Aerosmith

I never liked it, I do not know why. (liked the video though)

>    "Raising Hell", _Raising_Hell_ by Run-DMC

Loved it. Proved to me that crossover could happen and be better than
just "OK."

>    "Bring tha Noize", by Public Enemy w/ Anthrax

Yuck. They tried too hard.

>(I noticed that most often, the one rap group metal fans are willing to accept
>is Run-DMC, and Run-DMC is respected by all the b-boys, so you can collect
>respect either way.  I've also noticed that metal crosses-over to rap better
>than rap crosses-over to metal.)

I noticed that too. The real music screws up the tempo of the rap IMO.

>    Again, these are just my personal opinions, comments welcome.  If you
>want to flame and say, "Why the hell are you posting this, Bodycount isn't
>metal/rap"--then FUCK YOU, you are nothing but a close-minded, ignorant
>fool.

Flames to alt.bigot.music.lovers or /dev/null.

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