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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #233
Date: 27 Sep 92 23:21:01 GMT
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Info-Mac Digest             Sun, 27 Sep 92       Volume 10 : Issue 233

Today's Topics:

      [*] Alias Director 3.0.1
      [*] mcvert-187.shar
      [*] ToggleAT FKEY
      "Why I hate System 7..."
      (R) Accel plus too fast for drive startup
      .Z files (A)
      [R] canon bj300 driver for mac
      AD 2.0
      Alias question (A)
      Apple 13" Monitor Recall
      AutoDoubler 2.0 (c)
      AutoDoubler 2.0 Question
      AutoMac III (Genesis Software)
      b/w startup screens...
      Can Mac stay on Ethernet and still print to non-networked printer?
      Charging for System Software
      check
      ChemDraw Demo
      clip-art pictures...
      Compression Standards (C)
      DayStar Accelerators
      E-mail
      Gigabyte drive donations.
      Gopher it or Fetch it.
      Hello
      How to adjust PB100 backlight under System 6 (A)
      How to quit all open apps at once? (Q)
      icons -> pict files
      In Search Of:  Remote Access Scripts
      Mac Hardware Problems (A)
      MacWarehouse :-(,  (Huh?)
      Moving Powerbook 170 ... (C
      PB 100
      Problems with using Updaters.
      Programmer's Key 1.4.2
      QWK Programs (Q)
      RTF => TeX
      Software for Generating Interactive Tutorials on the Mac? (Q)
      Stuffit & Virus Checking
      System 7.1
      System 7.1 and payment
      Trash Management, Why?
      Update to accl. purchase
      VideoVision!  (Q)
      What's needed to use computer modem as TDD? (A)
      WorldScript and System 7.1 (A)
      Zoom fax-modem problem

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 92 14:31:58 -0400
From: tonyh@msc2.msc.cornell.edu (Tony Huang)
Subject: [*] Alias Director 3.0.1

Here is the lastest version of Alias Director (version 3.01).

Tony Huang
(msc.cornell.edu)

[Archived as /info-mac/util/alias-director-301.hqx; 44K]

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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 13:43:21 -0700
From: jskudlarek@std.MENTORG.COM (Joseph Skudlarek)
Subject: [*] mcvert-187.shar

mcvert, written in C, runs under UNIX and converts among Macintosh
file formats including BinHex4.0 and MacBinary.  See mcvert.1 (the man
page) for details.

Please replace mcvert-183.shar with mcvert-187.shar, which follows.
The current usage and the changes since 1.83 are detailed below.

Thanks to Paul Franklin, Jim (J.) Lattanzi, Barry Wolman, and Jack
Repenning for additional contributions and suggestions, including some
beta testing.  See the <<Notes>> below for details.

Besides significant bug fixes and better "good data" detection, this
release supports an Information only feature, specified with -I.
The description from the manpage is

     I    Option 'I', as in Information only, does not write out-
	  put files, but does indicate which output files would
	  normally be written.  All other operations are per-
	  formed, including verifying file formats and calculated
	  CRC values.  The 'I' option basically provides a non-
	  destructive verification of the files and their pro-
	  cessing.  It is also a soothing balm for the somewhat
	  paranoid, since it reports what files would be changed,
	  without actually changing them.

[Archived as /info-mac/unix/mcvert-187.shar; 85K]

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 15:59:12 -0700
From: Jon Pugh <jpugh@apple.com>
Subject: [*] ToggleAT FKEY

Here is an FKEY which simply turns Appletalk on if it is off and off if it
is on.  It is ideal for PowerBooks since you want Appletalk off when you
are on the road.  I wrote this FKEY because I was massively tired of all
the dialogs the Chooser made me see.

This includes a ReadMe.

Jon

[Archived as /info-mac/fkey/toggle-appletalk.hqx; 10K]

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Date: 27 Sep 92 21:03:17 GMT
From: arno@apple.com (Arno Gourdol)
Subject: "Why I hate System 7..."

First, I am not representing Apple.

I would like to hear the voices of those of you who HATE System 7.
Not those of you that do use it because you think its advantages
(FileSharing,
Aliases, New Finder, Configurable Apple Menu, Inteligent System Folder,
more robust, Baloon Help, Publish/Suscribe, AppleEvents, ...) outweights
its
defaults (too slow, needs too much memory...).
So my question is what should change in System 7.x to make it acceptable
to you?
Would you be ready to pay for that?

Lastly, I am still not representing Apple.
If you want to voice any of your concern about Apple policies, write
(no e-mail, no phone, no fax) at:

	Apple Customer Assistance Center
	20525, Mariani Avenue
	Cupertino, CA 95014
	USA

This is the right place to do it. You will be heard.
--
Minds, like parachute, only function when open.
I did it, I did it!

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From: parkyn@sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn)
Subject: (R) Accel plus too fast for drive startup

Message-Id: <parkyn.717532587@sfu.ca>
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 18:36:27 GMT
Apparently-To: comp-sys-mac-digest@uunet.uu.net

For the person whose Plus is going through its startup and not
waiting for the HD...

Can anyone recall what utility will allow the delay time to be changed.
I vaguely recall that the time allotted for waiting for a hard drive
to come on-line a variable - if you can access that with a utility.
Changing this delay time, I think it went up to 20 seconds or so, may
allow the use of that Master power switch in a normal manner.

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 17:57:30 -0500
From: Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo)
Subject: .Z files (A)

DWANDERER@MRSVAX.MIS.ARIZONA.EDU writes:

  > I often run across files on  unix boxes that have been compressed and
  > have the .Z extension.
  >
  > Does anyone know how to decompress these files on the mac?  I know how
  > to on a vax and unix box but I want to get them to my mac at home
  > before doing so if possible.

   Yup.  Ftp to sumex-aim and look in the info-mac/util folder for
maccompress-32.hqx.  It does exactly what you want.



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Date: 27 Sep 1992 17:52:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: EVAN <V060P9RR@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu>
Subject: [R] canon bj300 driver for mac

	My housemate recently bought a canon bj300.  It came with the
driver for his IBM-clone.  I own a mac se, and I'm looking for the print
driver for it. I know that there is something, such as GDT powerprint,
which will solve my problem.  I'm on a really tight budget as a student so I
can't afford to pay the $99.
	If anyone has any information that will help me please reply be
e-mail.  The help I'm looking for include's a (800) number for canon, a
used version of powerprint or orange-micro grappler, or an archive site
that has the driver.  I think I saw a copy of the driver for the hp
deskwriter at one of the sites.  I could be wrong.
	I'm just looking for the most cost effecient legal way to obtain
this driver.  Thanks in advance.

Evan Chan v060p9rr@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 23:16 CDT
From: "Dwight Lemke @ Wisconsin Oshkosh" <LEMKE@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU>
Subject: AD 2.0

According to MacWeek, AutoDoubler 2.0 was only released last week--it takes
time to contact all registered users.  If you really can't wait, upgrades
are listed as $19.95.  Fifth Generation can be reached at: 800 873-4384.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 22:54:36 PDT
From: jbthoo@ucdavis.edu ( John Thoo )
Subject: Alias question (A)

On infomacv10-231.txt I posted:
% Hi, all!
%
% If this is a FAQ, then my apologies, but ...
%
% ... aliases of apps that I keep on my Desktop preserve their
% ``drag-and-drop-iness,''  :-)  but aliases of apps that I keep in
% folders (I have a LaunchPad folder, for example) lose their
% ``drag-and-drop-iness.''  :-(
%
% Anyone know why?  And how can I fix this?

A couple of folks kindly responded with the following suggestions:

 o drag app to Desktop, create alias, then place alias in folder;
 o rebuild Desktop.

Unfortunately, neither of these worked  :-(

After suspecting that the reason the aliases of my apps lost their
``drag-and-drop-iness'' was because my apps live on my external drive,
whereas their aliases live inside a folder on my internal (boot) drive,
I copied the folder onto my external drive, and trashed the old folder.
(Boy, that was a long sentence!  :-)

Eureka!  Like magic, without having to do anything else, all the aliases
recovered their wonderful drag-and-drop personalities.  Thus, problem has
been solved (at llloooonnnnnggggggg last  ;-)

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions.

--John.
<jb2@math.ucdavis.edu>

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 13:41:32 CDT
From: Reverend John <UC521832@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
Subject: Apple 13" Monitor Recall

Having read the notes about Apple's monitor recall (or warranty
extension, or whatever) I checked my monitor and yup, I've got one
in the serial number ranges listed. I have not had any problems with
it, however, but it concerns me that I might after the warranty
expires.

I called the university repair dept. (who handle service for macs
bought through the school computer store). They were unaware of any
such recall based on serial numbers; they did believe they knew one
based on some sort of manufacturer date stamped on something inside
the monitor.

Question: if my monitor isn't acting up, can I still get the "fix"
done?

Question 2: What do I tell the repair dept.? Is there some sort of
official notice from Apple I can refer them to? Are they talking
about the same thing, only from "their end" ?

Thanks,
Rev

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 0:34:28 EDT
From: Shaw Bernard Wu <swu@sales.stern.nyu.edu>
Subject: AutoDoubler 2.0 (c)

On Fri, 25 Sep 92 10:04:45 PDT,
Suvrit Varshney <xsvarshn@aunix.fullerton.edu> said,

>I heard AD 2.0 is out. I'm a registered user and still nobody from
>the company has mailed me about it. Has anyone beta tested it?
>How is it better than 1.7? Any info will help thanks!

Yes, AD 2.0 is shipping. Call up Fifth Generation Systems at
1-800-766-7283 for more information. It costs $19.95 for the upgrade
and is free for people who purchased after July 15, 1992. There
is also a DiskDoubler 3.7.7 updater and I will post it as soon as
I get it. I doubt I'll get to post it though since it is usually
Jeff Needleman who gets the latest and the greatest on the 'nets.
RIGHT, Jeff ? ;-)

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 23:22:43 -0400
From: Bob Kerns <rwk@crl.dec.com>
Subject: AutoDoubler 2.0 Question

    Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 10:04:45 PDT
    From: Suvrit Varshney  <xsvarshn@aunix.fullerton.edu>
    Subject: AutoDoubler 2.0 Question

    I heard AD 2.0 is out. I'm a registered user and still nobody from
    the company has mailed me about it. Has anyone beta tested it?
    How is it better than 1.7? Any info will help thanks!

Oddly enough, I just spoke to 5th Generation today.
(5th Generation has aquired Salient)  AD 2.0 is supposed to
be available in a couple of weeks.  It offers support for
System 7.1; I don't know what else may have changed.

The reason I was calling them was that when I installed Japanese
support into my system (using GomTalk), suddenly AutoDoubler
would not load, and I was stuck with a disk full of compressed
data.  Aggrevating, to say the least.  It would just bring up
a dialog at INIT-load time that said I had to get a version
for my country.  Hey, I hadn't changed countries, I just added
another language!

I got around this by patching the appropriate internationalization
resource in the System file to have 0 (US) as the System Region Code,
instead of 14 (Japan).  I'm told there's a patcher available online
to make it into the international version.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 18:45:44 PDT
From: kroemer@apex.ece.ucsb.edu (Herb Kroemer)
Subject: AutoMac III (Genesis Software)

Does anyone know:
(a) whether or not AutoMac III is compatible with System 7 or
(b) the address (US Mail or EMail) or Phone # of Genesis Micro Software.

FYI: AutoMac III is a Macro program that came bundled with Microsoft's Word
3. It still works well with Word 5, but would it continue to work under
System 7?  Although its user interface is a bit awkward, it is much faster
than, say QuicKeys, and hence not as easily "out-typed."

Regards,

Herb K.

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Date: 27 Sep 1992 18:43:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: BRYAN SMITH <BSMITH%COLGATEU.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: b/w startup screens...

anyone know where I could find
some nice black and white startup screen?

.......
:  o/ : Bryan Smith
: <|  : Colgate University
: / > : internet: bsmith@center.colgate.edu
:.....: bitnet:   bsmith@colgateu

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 02:04:27 PDT
From: Les Ferch <ferch@ucs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Can Mac stay on Ethernet and still print to non-networked printer?

>Don Markuson wrote:

>Les Ferch wrote:

>-> b) Connect the LaserWriter IINT via its RS232 serial port to your modem
>->    port and scrounge around for an async LaserWriter driver and live with
>->    even slower throughput. Yuck!

>These days you don't have to scrounge very far:  Async LW driver support is
>included in my DMM LW Stuff package of freeware PostScript LaserWriter driver
>goodies, and you can configure the sucker for baud rates up to 57600 (56kb)
so
>throughput loss shouldn't be that big a deal.  (I'm not sure what the maximum
>baud rate you can configure a LaserWriter is, tho, but doesn't LocalTalk
>operate at 57600 baud too?).

Thanks. I'd forgotten that you added that capability.

LocalTalk operates at about 240K baud, so that's still about 4 times
faster than 57,600 (theoretically - I haven't done any tests). Of course,
240K baud is the bandwidth, so high traffic will cut down throughput.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 3:10:14 CDT
From: cbarkley@tusol.cs.trinity.edu (The DarkMage)
Subject: Charging for System Software

I agree that it sucks that we won't be able to just ftp new system software
down from Apple as it comes up.  However, Apple maintains it competitive edge
by spending a larger % of its money on R&D than most (any?) other company
in its line.  When they had to start selling the hardware cheaper in order
to increase market share and compete with the PCs, they lost that cozy profit
margin they were accustomed to having.  As a result, they're looking for other
ways to get some income without jacking the price back up.  Of course, a
cynic could say that they're hiding the extra cost so that you buy a cheap
Mac and then find out that you have to keep paying forever, but show me a
computer manufacturer that ISN'T pulling that one.  This is simply a loss of
some "niceness" on Apple's part - not an evil plot to opress Mac users.


--
Christopher Barkley
The DarkMage
cbarkley@tusol.cs.trinity.edu
Reality is a State of Mind

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 10:12:36 CDT
From: dblyston@weird.biol.trinity.edu (Daniel Blystone)
Subject: check

Bill Lipa:
	  We would like to let you know that we are sending a check.


Robert V. and Daniel V. Blystone


--
***********************************************************************
*Daniel V. Blystone                    dblyston@weird.biol.trinity.edu*
*Trinity University                    Phone --> 512-736-7243         *
*Biological Visualization Lab          FAX ----> 512-736-7229         *
*                                                                     *
*Bubba says: "He's so dumb, he'd change the oil in a rented car."     *
***********************************************************************

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 12:29:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Les Ferch <ferch@ucs.ubc.ca>
Subject: ChemDraw Demo

Does anyone have the latest demo of ChemDraw? I have phoned Cambridge
Scientific twice in the past couple of months, but still have not received
a copy.

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Date: 27 Sep 1992 18:39:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: BRYAN SMITH <BSMITH%COLGATEU.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: clip-art pictures...

I am in desperate need of clip
art images that can be used in
Word and Pagemaker documents.
I have found that sumex-aim
is rather limited in this field.
Any help will be gladly appreciated.
Personal collections of clip-art
images would be great.
areas of greatest interest (although any are great):
* cartoon characters
* personalities
* logos
* sports teams
thanks for your help.

.......
:  o/ : Bryan Smith
: <|  : Colgate University
: / > : internet: bsmith@center.colgate.edu
:.....: bitnet:   bsmith@colgateu

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 18:14:28 -0500
From: Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo)
Subject: Compression Standards (C)

wilson@bwco.com qrites:

  > Stuffit Lite     $25    ;shareware, expands Stuffit & Compact Pro & binhex

  > There have also been problems over the years as file compression
  > trends have changed. None of the above packages deals with the Packit
  > format and even some of the Stuffit utilities cannot handle the
  > relatively recent Stuffit 1.5.1 format.

   StuffIt Lite will handle the PackIt format.  Look at the last item on
the Translate menu.  StuffIt Lite also handles .dd, MacBinary, and
AppleLink formats in addition to the ones you list.  Please take a look
at the application before you complain about what it can and cannot do.

   Which of the StuffIt utilities cannot handle the 1.5.1 format, pray tell?


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 18:48:31 PDT
From: Dave Leiner <leiner@gtewd.mtv.gsc.gte.com>
Subject: DayStar Accelerators

I had asked:

>Does anyone out there have experience with DayStar accelerators. I'm thinking
>of upgrading my Mac II with a 50 MHz PowerCache030 with an FPU, and wonder
>about compatibility issues. I have a RasterOps 364 and would especially like
>to speed up 32-bit screen performance and QuickTime video capture.

I received about 10 replies, all indicating complete compatibility and
satisfaction with various forms of the PowerCache product. There were a couple
of problems noted but none were clearly related to the PowerCache. Screen
performance is helped but not as much as with a video accelerator.

Thanks to all who replied.

Dave Leiner
leiner@gtewd.mtv.gsc.gte.com

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 11:18:42 edt
From: Rich_Watts@DGC.ceo.dg.com
Subject: E-mail

Is there a "local" mail application that uses appletalk lines to send
messages (etc...), and can also send mail through the internet? This
may seem an unusual place to ask - but I just thought I would throw
it out. Please send comments direct and I will post the results if
any are interested.
Thanks in advance,
Rich Watts

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 13:53:50 EDT
From: Scott Kaplan <sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu>
Subject: Gigabyte drive donations.

Considering how much I take from info-mac, both in information from the digest
and in software from the archives, I think it a given that I should donate
some
money for the new drive.  I would be more than happy to fork over a few
dollars,
even if it's not much, because every dollar will count...and think of all the
cool goodies that we can keep on the archives for everyone with that kind of
storage?

As of the manner of how the money is collected...I don't have a problem with
mailing a check to our moderator Bill.  Even if he weren't a trustworthy
character (I'm not saying that he isn't trustworthy...just a "what if"), he
really couldn't do much.  There are too many of us that are going to be
watching to see what happens with our money and we know where he lives.  Not
a problem for me.  I will send my check right away.

I would highly recommend to Bill that he keep a file of each donation and
check
amount in a file that everyone can see (as he suggested himself), but in
addition, if possible, send a quick and small piece of email to the donator
for each check sent as additional confirmation that the check arrived and is
in the correct hands.

Scott Kaplan
Amherst College
sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu

[I will certainly do both of these things (it would help if contributors
 included an email address; otherwise, I'll use real mail.) -Bill]

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Date: 26 Sep 92 20:03:34 GMT
From: dmeyers@mal-s2.gatech.edu (Dave Meyers)
Subject: Gopher it or Fetch it.

In digest <9209242326.AA08236@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU>
Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

>On Wed, 23 Sep 1992 16:39:38 GMT you said:

>>Also for those people that have started to use Gopher to retrieve files

>Gopher, and it gets so many positive recommendations that I'll find the
>time to learn how to use it in the next few weeks.  However, I
>downloaded Fetch 2.1 from dartvax.dartmouth.edu and if ftp is your game,
>you can't ask for more (my kind of program--no need for docs, just point

I just want to point out that while I truly LOVE Fetch and highly
recommend its use to all, there is a very good reason to try hard
to use Gopher (and there are gopher clients for the Mac with
the mac interface, as well as a fine text (curses) based client
for those of us who dial-up to our unix machines).

You see, Gopher has the advantage that it does not maintain
the connection during the time that the user is browsing the
menu.  That means that it gets on, gets the direcory listing,
and gets right back off.  Then, when you choose a file, it
gets on, gets the file, and gets right back off.

This is very important, as it means that the connections are
maintained for much shorter periods of time, which allows
many more people to access the system.

The use of gopher is a form of courtesy to our kind hosts,
so, if you can, please try to use it.  (Besides, gopher lets
you get to all sorts of other fun stuff, too!)

Thanks.
--David
--
+++ David S. Meyers (dmeyers@math.gatech.edu)  *** PGP key avail.! *** +++

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 13:26:47 MDT
From: dmitry@hydrogen.chem.utah.edu (Dmitry Boldyrev)
Subject: Hello

Hello,
Do you know anything about Sound Tracker song's editors ?
Thanks, Dmitry.
E-Mail: dmitry@hydrogen.chem.utah.edu

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 10:00 BST
From: bcek1@cus.cam.ac.uk (B.C.E. Khoo)
Subject: How to adjust PB100 backlight under System 6 (A)

Recently Alan Hewat asked how it might be possible to adjust the backlight
brightness under System 6. The solution to this is to obtain the up-to-date
Portable control panel (v 1.3).

It can be found at ftp.apple.com at
dts/mac/sys.soft/video/portable-update-1-3.
hqx. This control panel allows you to control brightness using an on-screen
lever and additionally via a combination of keys.

I hope this helps.

Bernard Khoo     University of Cambridge, UK.
		 BCEK1@phx.cam.ac.uk or cus.cam.ac.uk

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 22:10:55 PDT
From: jbthoo@ucdavis.edu ( John Thoo )
Subject: How to quit all open apps at once? (Q)

Hi, folks!

Is there some way I can quit all open apps at once?

I quite often have at least three (if not more) apps open at once.
When I'm done working, I almost always end up having to select
each app from the app menu (is that what it's called? :)  in the
far right of the menu bar, then quit them one at a time.  What I'd
like is some way to quit all my open apps at once, preferably without
having to restart the Mac.

Is there an FKey or extension that handles this?  Or can I use ResEdit
to add a Quit All Apps menu item to the Finder? (And, if so, how?)

As always, thanks much for your help.

--John.
<jb2@math.ucdavis.edu>

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Date: 27 Sep 1992 18:41:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: BRYAN SMITH <BSMITH%COLGATEU.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: icons -> pict files

are there any programs that
will convert small icon images
into larger sized pictures without
distortion?
any help will be appreciated.

.......
:  o/ : Bryan Smith
: <|  : Colgate University
: / > : internet: bsmith@center.colgate.edu
:.....: bitnet:   bsmith@colgateu

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 3:25:02 CDT
From: cbarkley@tusol.cs.trinity.edu (The DarkMage)
Subject: In Search Of:  Remote Access Scripts

Greetings:

     It sounds as though many of you out there use Remote Access a lot more
than we have.  A number of us acquired Racal-Milgo RMD3222 modems a few
months ago.  These are fairly advanced modems with a mind-numbing array of
confusing abilities and a top speed of 14.4K (38.4K DTR).  The trouble is,
none of the scripts that come with Remote Access will talk to them @$*&@
things.  End result, we can do great talking to UNIX servers, our IBM
mainframe
and the like, but now that we have the speed to really use RA, we can't!
Does anyone out there have any scripts that might work for us?  Please
respond directly to me since I can't imagine other netters caring about this.
Thanks in advance!


--
Christopher Barkley
The DarkMage
cbarkley@tusol.cs.trinity.edu
Reality is a State of Mind

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 10:02:43 EDT(-0400)
From: ed@titipu.resun.com (Edward Reid)
Subject: Mac Hardware Problems (A)

Scott Gruby writes:
> People may say what I experienced was not a surge, but a type of brownout.
> It doesn't matter to me, PowerKey did more than it had to do.

The PowerKey doesn't help with the flicker or brownout that Scott had, no
more than a surge supressor would.  For that, you need at least a minimal
backup power supply, which will set you back about $130 for something that
will handle the smallest Mac.  Not a bad price for protection, actually.

What Scott observed is the action of heavy-duty power converters (commonly
called power supplies) in Apple equipment and other high-quality electronic
gear.  These are strong enough, and have enough electrical inertia, to
provide constant output at voltages as low as 85V (in the US, nominal 120V)
and across complete outages as long as 250ms (1/4 second).  Apple only
rates its power supplies for 20ms outages, but recent tests in MacUser or
MacWorld verified the 250ms capability.

Edward Reid  (8*}>
  eel:   ed@titipu.resun.com  or  nosc.mil!titipu.resun.com!ed
  snail: PO Box 378/Greensboro FL 32330

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 09:32:34 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <IRBLOOM@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: MacWarehouse :-(,  (Huh?)

On 25 Sep 1992, Michael A. McGuire wrote:

>This week I ordered "Word for Word" from MacWAREHOUSE.  It was ordered
>on a university PO.  Got the product in, tested it and found that it
>did not work. Tried to return it and was told it was non-returnable.
>This all happened in the last 5 days.

Why do you say that is a MacWarehouse problem, Michael? I had to go back
to an old Version 11.0 MW catalog to find "Word for Word" (It is not in
my 14.0 catalog), and the product does not show the blue dot for a 30-day
money back guarantee. Seems to me that MW was pretty up front about your
not being able to return the product if it proved unsuitable.

I am assuming unsuitabily here. I've never known MW to not exchange a
product that didn't actually work.

C'mon, folks. We all make mistakes (I make rather more than my share),
but embarrassing oneself is no reason to misplace blame on someone else.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 18:17:36 GMT
From: parkyn@sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn)
Subject: Moving Powerbook 170 ... (C

Others have reported that it is 'safe' to transport while PB is sleeping.
Some cases of pressure on case causing power up are rumoured. Primary
concern would be the loss of working time...

The hard drives will park when sleeping... for a while now, when power to
the drive is off (ie. the spin stops) the heads park, manufacturers know
to do it right or the product is trashed quickly by 'burned and still
smoking' consumers!

By far, IMHO, the greatest concern is to protect the PowerBook from
substantial impacts. The worst result will be a cracked screen because
they cost Can$800 - $1600 to replace!! Yeow!
I try to use a hard sided case (briefcase or modified softsided case) to
protect against the 'too frequent' bumps against objects like table corners.

By the way...
 I purchased one of the early releases of the '91 PB140. The trackball button
(upper) suffered minor collapse, the HD died, and only recently did I get
a NEW floppy drive (shielding flaw case? - occasionally would not read
a disk until the LCD backlight was off.
 Hopefully, the backlight will last a long time because I use a 13" colour
monitor with Envisio's product. (A pretty good solution if $$$$ are
available.)
Perhaps 99% of my work is at home where the colour monitor is used. (So why
did I buy a laptop? Consulting job that required mobility or so I thought.)

Dale
parkyn@sfu.ca

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 00:01:26 -0400
From: Bob Kerns <rwk@crl.dec.com>
Subject: PB 100

    Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1992 18:41 CDT
    From: "Dwight Lemke @ Wisconsin Oshkosh" <LEMKE@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU>
    Subject: PB 100

    Well, I took the plunge and snapped up a PB 100 before they all became
    history.
    Now what?  That is, I call upon the wisdom of the 'net--what utilities,
    cp's, ex's, add-ons do I put on the thing?  Outside of the basic
    requirement
    of more memory--the Mac user's mantra--what else do I need?  Also, any
    recommendations for a modem for the thing?

Well, you will of course always want more disk space, but nobody
I know has sprung for that yet so I don't have any recommendations.
However, AutoDoubler is effective, seems to be reliable so long
as you don't install Japanese (and there's a workaround), and
on a 40Mb system will let you have around 65Mb.

On ftp.apple.com there's a directory of various PB-related utilities.
I highly recommend:

The Regulator  -- automatically lengthens sleep timeouts if plugged in.
SpinD Fkey     -- an FKEY to spin down the hard drive when you know you
		  won't be needing it for a while
PowerSleep     -- An FKEY to put it to sleep.  This is important because
		  any other way of doing it involves bringing up the finder
		  which will bring up the hard drive, and both consume power
		  and time and will also switch away from what you were
		  doing.
		  You want to be able to just hit key and sleep, and travel.
		  Then hit a key, and use it again.
Backlight Control
	       -- Control panel to automaticaly turn off the backlighting
		  when you're idle.
Rest/Don't Rest
	       -- A pair of applications that I wish were FKEY's to enable/
		  /disable the "rest mode", wherein it slows the processor
		  to a crawl when idle to save power.  If you're doing
		  a massive compilation while riding the subway, you'll want
		  this.  (There's a hidden feature in the Portable control
		  panel, but this is more convenient).

QuickKeys helps to hook this stuff up more conveniently.  Now Utilities
is also a big winner in various ways.

Also, the latest version of Superclock! has a very compact battery-use
icon included, so you'll want that.

As for modems:  It seems that the one of preference is the
PowerPort series by Global Village.  I know one owner of the
gold (14.4Kb data/9600 fax), and one of the Bronze (4800 data/
9600 fax, i think).  They're expensive for the faster ones,
but I think it's worth the money.  Now if only I had the money.
It's a race between whether I'll spring for a modem or a 120Mb
drive first!

I'd recommend getting a couple extra batteries.

The LED battery charger is also very helpful; it gives you 12-volt
charging in car or boat as well as 110.

 ---------------

By the way, on the topic of transporting.  I've never heard of
any problems transporting asleep, or wide awake, for that matter.
The only issue really is accidental awakening.  My recommendation
is that if you're going to *ship* it, you should flip the battery
disconnect switch after doing a shutdown.  Otherwise, put it to
sleep and enjoy.

I carry mine around awake all the time on the subway.

Modern tiny disks are a whole *lot* more robust and resistent to
shocks than older larger drives.  In large measure this is a direct
physical result of their smaller size, and resulting smaller moments
of inertia.

Basically, you don't want to drop it while it's running.  But you
don't want to drop it anyway!

 ---------------

The $899 4/40 PowerBook 100 w/ FDD is a *great* product.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 21:23:32 PDT
From: rjms@scripps.edu (Russell Mortishire-Smith)
Subject: Problems with using Updaters.

I'm banging my head against a pile of hot floppies at the moment. I've
been trying to install Apple Remote Access off the Installer disk. No
joy, every time I try, I get a system crash with a Type I error, which
usually indicates some kind of incompatibility. I'm installing with all
extensions off on a tuned System 7. I even went back to try a customized
install of other software from my System 7 masters, and got the same message.
Something is obviously wrong somewhere, but I can't spot what it is.

Any ideas, anyone?

Russell
rjms@scripps.edu
/

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 15:06:04 +0100
From: me@suzuka.u-strasbg.fr (Michel Eytan LILoL)
Subject: Programmer's Key 1.4.2

Michel:

You might want to try Programmer's Key 1.4.2.  It can be found at sumex-aim
or your favorite sumex mirror site.  Unfortunately, no documentation is
provided with it, and I haven't had any luck finding anyone who knows how it
works.  It is a startup document, so should go in your system folder, but I
don't know which key combination you need to use to activate it.
[deleted]
 ----------end insert----------------

I have finally found how to use it. Here are the instructions:

1. Push the clover and power-up keys at same time; a box appears with symbol
>;
2. Type in the following (respect case and spaces, please):
"SM 0 AP F4 <CR>
G 0 <CR>"
where CR means carriage-return.

This gets you back to Finder.

Cheers

--
Michel Eytan                                    eytan@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr
Labo. Info., Log., Lang.                        T: +33 88 41 74 29
Univ. Strasbourg II                             F: +33 88 41 74 40

 ------end posting-------

Thank you

==michel

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 17:44:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeff Linder <jeff@picasso.ocis.temple.edu>
Subject: QWK Programs (Q)

Does anyone know of any good programs to process/display/respond to QWK
mail/message packets?  My local BBS just got the capability.  Qwk-reader in
the archives looks okay, except it has no read/reply facility.

Ability to handle .lha compression automagically a plus!

Jeff Linder


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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 15:19:39 BST
From: Donald Peterson <D.M.Peterson@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk>
Subject: RTF => TeX

In response to my last posting I've had many enquiries asking which
anonymous ftp sites have an RTF => TeX converter. The following is a
list of some sites, and I think that what is there is C code to be
compiled and run under Unix, but it could no doubt be adapted for the
Mac.

Donald Peterson (Cognitive Science, Birmingham)


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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 17:37 GMT
From: STCH8002%IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Software for Generating Interactive Tutorials on the Mac? (Q)

This query is perforce rather vague since I am hunting for something
I have never actually seen, namely: Software (commercial or shareware)
designed to allow me to write/construct interactive tutorials in
Chemistry for my undergraduate students, running on Mac Classics or
SE's. I know that software of this kind (called 'authoring', I think)
is available for PC's (the name 'Domino' comes to mind, I think) but
I have no personal experience of the latter. Please reply to the Bitnet
address below - I will summarise to the net if the response merits it.
Many thanks - Fergus.
========================================================
Fergus J. Lalor, Department of Chemistry
University College, Cork, Ireland.
STCH8002@IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 08:56:24 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <IRBLOOM@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Stuffit & Virus Checking

On Thu, 24 Sep 92, Aladdin's Leonard Rosenthol noted:

>StuffIt 3.0 will auto-check expanded files for viruses.

That existing feature of Stuffit 3 (regular and lite) is indeed very
useful, and perhaps under-noted in commentary and reviews. When I pull
files from an archive, Stuffit automatically launches SAM 3 and passes
the extracted file through a SAM scan. It is the only advantage I see
over an SEA. There is an open SAM window left (The folk say they can't
tell whether SAM was already open at link time, so a QUIT might be a
naughty thing to issue) after the pull, but that's not much nuisance
for the extra level of safety.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 14:25:49 EDT
From: tonyh@msc2.msc.cornell.edu (Tony Huang)
Subject: System 7.1

There had been a lot of discussions lately about Apple's new policy
of charging for system upgrades. I finally felt the urge to add my own
comments.

First of all, I'm willing to pay a reasonable fee ($50 or less for a
set of diskettes) for a major system upgrade, if this means Apple will
have the resources to compete with Microsoft. The upcoming MS Window NT
(which boosts some impressive features) carries a price tag of $500 !!

Although I'm willing to pay for system upgrade, I'm dispointed at the
lack of new features in System 7.1 (at least until Apple starts to
ship QuickDraw GX, AppleScript, etc. - I presume we have to pay for
these extensions as well). The Multifinder is too outdated. I wish
a newer system (hopefully not in the too distant future) will give
us preemptive multitasking, dynamic link library, and so on (AND
get rid of the requirement of fixed memery partitions !!!)

Tony Huang
(msc.cornell.edu)

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 01:42:58 PDT
From: Les Ferch <ferch@ucs.ubc.ca>
Subject: System 7.1 and payment

>Most of my friends don't even know what System 7 is.  Their computers work
>with whatever version of the software it is they have.  They're happy.
>I would suspect that the majority of Mac users are the same way.  They use
>their computers for working on, and Word 3 (or the original version of
>MacWrite) doesn't work any better with the newest version of the sytem.
>In fact, it'll run slower.  What I am trying to say is that for most people,
>upgrading doesn't make sense.  Therefore, the arguements that (1) more
>versions of the operating system will have to be supported and (2) lots
>of folks will be left "behind" don't make sense.  I actually still know
>people on version 4.  Imagine.

The kind of users you describe do not drive the industry, because they
don't spend enough money. Those in the business world (especially graphic
department types) do tend to stay up to date with their applications and
relatively up to date with their System Software (at least as required by
the applications). If you want to run PageMaker 4.2, XPress 3.1, FreeHand
3.1, Persuasion, PhotoShop, etc. you need a nice fast Mac, at least System
6.x (preferrably 7.x), lots of RAM, and a big hard drive.

There are a lot of people who run these applications (and many other big,
impressive programs). These people keep the industry going (your friends
should thank them). For these people, upgrading makes a lot of sense.

On our campus, we have a lot of people who fit your description of just
leaving everything as they got it and never upgrading. They are generally
okay until a) they actually need to communicate (e.g. share files) with
others b) have a problem with their system. The only practical way for a
support person like me to help them is to get their System upgraded to a
reasonable level, which means at least System 6.0.8, Word 4.0d, and Excel
2.2a. At this level, they are reasonably compatible and easy to support on
our networks with others running System 7.0.1, Word 5.0, and Excel 4.0.

If you and your Mac are an island, then sure, you can run any old System
and applications you want, but if you have to work with others and rely
others for support, upgrading is very important.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 01:06:00 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Trash Management, Why?

On Fri, 25 Sep 1992 13:58:18 -0400 you said:
>So what do you gain with one of these Trash inits, all of which
>seem to be a little flaky?

Ever toss a folder with a hundred or so small (or not so small) items
in the trash?  Select Finder's Empty Trash and wait for one of those
"thermometers" to do its thing :-(  Trashman does a nice job of
eliminating files one at a time without interrupting other work.  Not a
big deal, but a nice feature.  I was one of the first registered users
of Trashman.  Some of the betas I've tested have been a little peculiar
(that's why they're tested :) but I've never had crashes I could blame
on any nonbeta Trashman.

>Unless I need to clear a floppy, I just let it sit there until I
>happen to remember to hit <option> T.

I sometimes change my mind about something that I put in the trash.  I
find the slowly draining trash can handy.

There are times when I want to empty a floppy without emptying the hard
disk (I might change my mind).  Trashman does that with a simple drag
and drop.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:39 EST
From: Carlo Fusco <G1400023@NICKEL.LAURENTIAN.CA>
Subject: Update to accl. purchase

Hello again,

Its been some time since I asked about accelerating an old SE. I want to
thank all those who gave me the valuable information about going the
accelerator route with my SE.

I ended up purchasing a Mobius 25MHz 2page display card. It is the econo
processor and I did not purchase the monitor, yet. So far I am quite happy
with it. The only problem I had, was that I had to buy new simms since the
ones I already had were to slow for the accelerator. At least I now have 4MB
on the accelerator and 4MB on the motherboard as a ram disk.

With all this new found speed I took the plunge into system 7. My SE does't
have a SuperDrive so I hooked up my external hard drive to a friends si. I
installed system 7.01 with tuneup. The system only uses about 1.7 MB leaving
me enough room to run all the applications I have. I have not yet run into
any compatability problems.

Now that I am moving to system 7 I have a few questions. What are the best
system additions to invest in? I understand that Trashman is a must have, are
there any others? (I already use Alsoft Power Utilites)

I will provide a report of all the "Must have extensions, cp's, etc. for
System 7". I'm sure this list will be useful to all of us taking this late
plunge into system 7.

Thanks in advance.

Carlo Fusco
g1400023@nickel.laurentian.ca

PS: The MacWorld Expo in Toronto was a lot of fun. I have to tip my hat to
the WordPerfect people. They had an excellent display and gave me a copy of
their new LetterPerfect for sitting in on their presentation.

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Date: 27 Sep 92 14:36:26 GMT
From: j8bm001@stan.xx.swin.OZ.AU (K CROFT)
Subject: VideoVision!  (Q)

Any and every info on VideoVision...
Please Email me
j8bm001@stan.xx.swin.oz.au

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 18:28:19 -0500
From: Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo)
Subject: What's needed to use computer modem as TDD? (A)

Andrew Anthony Wier <awier@tenet.edu> writes:

  > TDD at their workplace or home.  Since I'm am almost always around a
  > computer at work or home with a modem, I wanted to know if it is
  > possible to use the computer w/ modem to connect with TDDs?
  >
  > I have been told that the TDDs use "baudot" instead of "ascii".  I
  > have also seen some advertisements for modems that automatically
  > switch between the two, depending on the call recieved or sent.
  >
  > Is there a software solution that would allow me to use my Zoom 2400
  > bps and 14.4 bps modems?

   I'm sorry to say the answer is NO.  TDD requires a different type of
modem transmission protocol than is found on conventional data modems.
You would have to buy a special modem equipped to do both.

   You can't use a "software solution," because your Zoom modem will never
be able to establish a connection to a TDD modem.  This is the same reason
why you can't use a non-fax data modem to connect to a fax machine.



------------------------------

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 18:42:35 -0500
From: Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo)
Subject: WorldScript and System 7.1 (A)

RICHARD LIM <RTL%SIVA.BRISTOL.AC.UK writes:

  > But does this also mean that
  > current applications which don't support non-Roman scripts (such as
  > Microsoft products which are quite notorious for this behaviour) will
  > be able to do so without modification if run under 7.1?

   I think the answer is NO.  According to the bumpf I have read,
WorldScript-compatability must be provided for in the application.

   Note that MicroSoft has disabled even the old ScriptManager
compatability from Word 4 and 5.  Their reason for this is that they
want you to buy the special Japanese version (EG-WORD) if you want
to do Kanji.  Also, they claim that they can run the app faster by
bypassing ScriptManager.

   Obviously, if they continue in the attitude, none of their US
applications will ever support non-roman scripts regardless of how
easy Apple makes it for them.

  > Scripts Folder into which you put all your scripts, just like you'll
  > have a Fonts Folder under 7.1?  Or do the scripts going in the System
  > as before?

   I believe the scripts go into the Extensions folder (this is certainly
how ChineseTalk II does it).

  > Existing versions of System Software have CDEVs and extensions
  > which are properly localised, in that the dialog boxes etc are
  > in the appropriate language.  With 7.1, can one have only one set
  > of CDEVs and Extensions which

    WorldScript is only designed to allow you to use non-roman scripts
while running a US version of the OS.  It does not convert your Mac to
the Japanese OS whenever you use Kanji (that is, all your Finder menus
and system alerts will continue to be in the language of your native OS).

   If you want to switch every aspect of your Mac (menus, date format,
extensions, and all) to a foreign language, you will have to have two
system folders, each in a different language.

   Apple has always provided the capability to completely convert your
Mac to a foreign language (by using the appropriate foreign OS).  World
Script allows your Mac to use foreign scripts while functioning in its
native language.  I think this is the whole point.




------------------------------

Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 17:54:35 PDT
From: bxu@sfu.ca
Subject: Zoom fax-modem problem

Hi, everyone:

I've got a ZOOM fax-modem 24/96 with Quicklink ][. The manual of software
claims that it can distinguish between income fax call, voice call and data.
I've tried everything that the manual says, but the extension "fax manager"
can not work properly. I mean
it can not forward voice call to an answering machine.

Does anyone have experience on it? Is it necessary to use a fax line manager
which costs itself 100$?

Thank you for your attention.
Bai XU (bxu@sfu.ca)

PS: I use Classic ][ and Mac LC with system 7.0.1 tune-up.

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