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From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Subject: Re: Board Repair
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:45:03 GMT

kurth@heycke.Eng.Sun.COM (Kurt Heycke [Contractor]) writes:


>Just refer to us as being "on top", thank you very much.

So you like being on top do you ???? :-)
Perhaps you take your turn underneath when ....


>> What the hell is a down-under-
>>type for god sake?  Paul Hogan on a 6'6" earing Ken Done boardshorts???
>>


>No, more like a swaggie gone effete from exercising his libidinal energies
>on animals with cloven hooves.  

I thought that was more the on top sort of thang to do.

>Incidentally, this activity gives Australians a rare
>form of anthrax that induces them to insert apostrophes before the "s"
>in all plural nouns (cf. the current poster and all of Lud's posts). 

That's just the start of being an aussie... you forgot the barbie-Q...
the beer...the flies,sun,sand,surf... and of course the good ol
zinc-cream.


Just usual ramblings,
N.
From: ce425@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Danny Z. Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: "Real Surfing?"
Date: 8 Sep 1992 22:22:00 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


   Well, I went and did it.  Last Saturday I was out bodyboarding
with a friend who surfs.  My friend brought two boards, a long 
and short board.  The surf was big enough so he used his short
board.  After about an hour of bodyboarding,   I tried his
long board.  It was an old board, about 9 ft and 50 lbs.  So, I 
get out in the line up, turn the board around (no small feat), 
and wait.  Wave comes, I paddle, wave passes me up.  My
friend tells me to get farther forward.  Wave comes, I paddle,
board noes dives, I fall off.  Friend tells me there is a fine
line I have to find, not too far forward, not too far back.

  After a few more false stars, I find that fine line.  I jump
to my feet, and glide down  to the bottom of the wave 
(3-4 ft faces).  Now for a bottom turn.  I lean, board goes
straight, I fall off.  My friend tells me that I not going to 
get that heavy log to turn, so I need to start at an angle
down the wave.  Next wave comes, I paddle, jump to my
feet,  and presto, I'm timing along a 3 ft wave.  I ride
it all the way to the beach.  I do it two more times. 
  It was very frustrating missing all the the waves I did,
knowing I could have been riding them on my bodyboard.
But it was fun, and I'll probable try it some more,  but it will
never replace bodyboarding.

   
 **** For Southern California,  there's a south swell headed 
our way.  Going to hit San Diego tomorrow (Sept 9th).  Tell
us what it's like Todd.

DannyZ
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From: g9024557@cc.uow.edu.au (James Phillip ANDREW)
Subject: Re: Surf Report, San Diego North County
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 01:01:48 GMT

Mike Roberts writes:

     >The spot I'm talking about is really weird. About 1/3 of a mile up the
     >beach is a well known longboarding spot. It seems like the sloppier 
     >and more rolie the long board spot is, the hollower this wave is. Then,
     >after take off, the wave sort of bends, so sometimes you are surfing
     >at 45 degrees to the beach (this is really trippy is you are in a
     >barrel). It only really works at one certain state of the tide, when the
     >waves pop-up out of virtually nothing and then explode over an
     >a rock studded sand bar. Any of you oceanographers got an idea what is 
     >going on ?? A refraction effect ?? Wave compression caused by an
     >canyon out to sea ??


I am certainly no Oceanographer but all(?) super gnarly waves really bend. 
I think it is because the part of the wave over the shallow bottom slows
considerably compared to the shoulder and rest of the wave which is still 
in deep water. A place called Headlands in Wollongong is a classic
example. The reef itself is quite shallow but gets deep fairly quickly.
Also due to a kind or circular (reef) shape the swells wrap heaps - coming
straight out of deep water. This makes the wave bend heaps and makes
it really easy to get vertical. Another place called Boneyards is another
example. Actually I think it is the hard wrap that drives the wave from deep 
water into shallow water so quickly.  Old Virgins doesn't appear to wrap 
much but you can quite often see a big bend in the wave at the edge
of the tube. It is quite disconcerting sometimes to be slotted and
all you can see outside the tube is the wall of the wave because of the bend. 
But that means you are ready to come out anyway since the wall you are
looking at is still in relatively deep water (you hope :-) )  

     >Betcha blacks was classic on tuesday, eh Tod.

     >Mike
     >"A brit in yank land"

Jim WnW + "A homosapien in the land od Oz"
Headlands
Wollongong

P.S. Had some nice waves at Sharkies (400m north of Headlands) this am. Messy
swell but no wind and no one out.
From: rolf@ames.ucsd.edu (Rolf Schreiber)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Dreamin about those classic sessions
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:12:52 GMT
Organization: U.C. San Diego, AMES Department


In article <1884smINNor3@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ce425@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
(Danny Z. Clark) writes:
|> Its been 1-2 feet here in the Ventura area, but we are only
|> weeks away from the Santa Ana Wind season (Off shore
|> winds), and we could get a North/West swell any day.
|> 
|> DannyZ

Ah yes, October in Southern California - IMHO the best time of the year for
surfing. All the 'zonies (tourists from Arizona) have gone home and the locals
have reclaimed the beach. The Santa Ana winds give us an indian summer, it's
80F air temp and 70F water temp. A swell is kicking in and there are many
consistent sets of head high+ waves...

Reminds me of perhaps my favorite session ever... a classic day at Black's
in La Jolla, mid-October of 1982. I jammed down to the beach just after
a class at UCSD and coming around the bend on the hill down to Black's I
think I've died and gone to surf Nirvana. It's head high with bigger sets
that start at a peak and peel off perfectly formed shoulders in both
directions. Looks like it belongs in a surf magazine, not at a place where
*I* get to surf. :-) I jump in the water with that nervous anticipation you
get when you *know* it's gonna be a *classic* surf. There are already about
30 people out, but the sets are so consistent that everyone is getting rides
almost as fast as they can paddle out. There are numerous tube rides and 
everyone is hooting at everyone else 'cuz they're as stoked as you are about
the conditions. Sometimes you just paddle out beyond the sets and sit for a
bit for a rest from all the rides and watch the dolphins play 50 feet away.
And when you go back to the lineup, catching a wave is an effortless two-stroke
paddle and set operation. 

I must've ridden 25 waves that session - don't think I've ever had another
quite like it to date. Not the biggest waves I've ever written, but some of
the most fun. Unfortunately, the El Nino of '82-83 chewed up the break at
Black's pretty well that winter, and it's never really been the same since.
But it sure is nice reminiscing...

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From: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: East Coast Report (USA)
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:00:05 GMT
Reply-To: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

Well, my last weekend at our rented summer beach house came and went
without ant good surf. Saturday morning the wind was blowing onshore
at about 10-15 knots the waves were just beginning to feel the wind
but hadn't picked up yet. The weather was cloudy and raining. Where's
the beer. By sunday morning, the waves had picked up but the wind was
still blowind hard onshore. I went out anyway.  Head high choppy trash
surf, barely rideable closeouts etc. It sucked, but it was better than
no surf at all.  The summer is now legally over and the lifeguards are
history. Surfing is now legal all day long in Ocean City and the fall
is coming......Water still warm, waves getting better. Watch this space.
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From: jsh@controls.ccd.harris.com (Joe Hoff)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Why professional surfing sucks
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:47:16 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Harris Controls
Originator: jsh@rs2


Agree 100%.

Some additonal comments about pro-surfing:

I think part of the problem with pro-surfing is the fact that it is in itself a
contradiction.  I just don't see how you can assign points to something that is
so dynamic, condition dependent and relative to personal expressions.  It scoring
a persons ride on a wave is like walking through an art gallery and trying to
assign relative "worth" to each artist. ("Well, Picasso pulled off some rather
radical stuff, but the high score for the heat goes to Rembrandt for his smoother
transitions and wiser color choice"???)

The point is that surfing is not a "sport".  You can't time it like down hill
skiing.  You can't score it like football.  Surfing is something you enjoy -- for
yourself.

The pro-surfing "establishment" (Surfer magazine et al., ESPN coverage, the
videos, the sponsorships, the movies, and the contests) have corrupted this idea.
Not only are the crowds bigger at the limited number of surfing spots, but it
seems that surfers are getting into the competitive spirit; cutting each other
off, localism, hassles and bad vibes and a lack of respect for each other and for
the ocean has become the norm.  It seems to me that the problem is particularly
acute with younger surfers (high-school age and under) who perhaps have a greater
need to establish their identity.  So they do it in the method they've seen --
contest style.  No "aloha" at all.

Four years ago I was at Spanish House.  Shoulder high waves with a
really nice form.  It was summer, and I was there all by myself.  A thunderstorm
was moving east/west to the north of me, and it caused the hugest, most vivid
rainbow I've ever seen.  At the same time, a couple of dolphins were playing in
the surf a couple of hundred yards away.  Except for the one small set of
condominiums, there wasn't any sign of human life around.  Everything seemed so
beautiful then, I remember I got kind of choked up for a moment or two.

How doest that score?

I really do wish surfing would go underground again, but I don't think it's
likely.  Maybe we ought to work together and get legislation passed to make it
illegal! :).

  
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From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Subject: Re: Surfing vs. Working
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:59:47 GMT

airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey) writes:

[shit deleted]

>    Now I want to get the best possible cold water wetsuit for this winter. 
>    $$$ no barrier. I want at least a 4/3, but I'd like some shoulder freedom. 
>    The 3/2 rip curl aqua ban that I used this summer seems pretty durable, and
>    has very flexible shoulders,

Expandex (?) is the way to go for flex in the shoulders,under arms.
I've got is in my Rip-curl Therma system 32 and you never get a paddling
rash and allows great freedom of movement.
Knee  pads (thin rubber on the knees) are also handy as they stop holes 
developing in the knees of ya wettie.
From: mike_r@nic.cerf.net (Mike Roberts)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Surf Report, San Diego North County
Summary: Lunchtime barrels !!
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:32:35 GMT
Organization: CERFnet

(Saturday, Sunday)
Silly little piddly waves, so I'm told (I was in the mountains).

(Monday)
Chest high, better shape, obviously the start of a swell.

(Tuesday)
AM: Looking good. A few head high sets, looking like a building south
west swell. Enough to decide to go in at luchtime, when the tide had
dropped off. I surfed a lesser known spot which isn't checkable from the
car parks on the top of the bluff :-^

It was classic. Reeling left barrels for 2 hours with only two other
guys out, one guy on a single fin acid-era board, one guy on a 6'8 +.
Loads of waves comming through, simple pull in barrels, or really
fast screaming head high walls. I has a good time ....

The spot I'm talking about is really weird. About 1/3 of a mile up the
beach is a well known longboarding spot. It seems like the sloppier
and more rolie the long board spot is, the hollower this wave is. Then,
after take off, the wave sort of bends, so sometimes you are surfing
at 45 degrees to the beach (this is really trippy is you are in a
barrel). It only really works at one certain state of the tide, when the
waves pop-up out of virtually nothing and then explode over an
a rock studded sand bar. Any of you oceanographers got an idea what is
going on ?? A refraction effect ?? Wave compression caused by an
canyon out to sea ??

(Wednesday)
I surfed this morning before work thinking it would be really good
again (I checked it at dusk last night). Unfortunatly it had dropped
a lot, some chest high lefts and rights comming thorough at bamboos.

Betcha blacks was classic on tuesday, eh Tod.

Mike
"A brit in yank land"
From: tcritchl@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tod Critchlow)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Surf Report SIO + Wet Suits
Keywords: Small
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:44:58 GMT

Surf in SD County from San Elijo to SIO

Small, but there may be sets, I only got to
look as I was passing by.
The breaks I saw seemed uncrouded, without
anybody sitting outside.

No white water at the La Jolla Cove.

WetSuits

I used to ski a lot and when ever I needed to buy a 
new pair of boots, I would take a day or two and
go to several ski shops and try on as many boots 
as possible.  Not only try them on, but walk around
in each pair for 15-20 minutes.  Now this seems 
like a drag, but it shows you which boots fit and
which ones don't.  
	This is how I have bought wetsuits.
We are all shaped differently and fortunately
wetsuits are all cut differently.
Just my two cents. B-)

tod


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Scripps Institution of Oceanography   |
From: mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Why professional surfing sucks
Date: 14 Sep 92 10:55:55 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

In article <1992Sep14.010349.7332@cs.uow.edu.au> u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson) writes:
>mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf) writes:
>
>
>>Why is it good for surfing to be respectable?  
>
>Cause then employers don't show you the door the minute you walk in 
>looking like you just stepped out of the surf.
>

I've had this problem.  There's only two ways to go about it.

1. Show up for the interview in a suit and a haircut.  Don't
mention that you surf.  If they ask you whether or not you surf
just say something like "once in awhile."  Basically, LIE!!

2. Get skills in something that there is a shortage of people in,
and then they are glad to have you no matter what you look like
or do.

Chris
From: scotti@madworld.Eng.Sun.COM (Scott A. Vu)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Hurricane Iniki
Date: 11 Sep 1992 17:35:23 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: madworld
Keywords: surf s.shore

Any news on Iniki hitting the Hawaiian islands?
How are the surf on s.shore?
thanks
scott-
From: kurth@heycke.Eng.Sun.COM (Kurt Heycke [Contractor])
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Board Repair
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:37:08 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: heycke

In article <1992Sep11.025532.15507@newsman.csu.murdoch.edu.au> smith@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au (Scott Smith) writes:
>In article <37887@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, tcritchl@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tod Critchlow) writes:
>
>> ps  I was just wondering, do you down-under-types refer to your
>> boards as a 6'6" or a 2M?
>> -- 
>
>G'day Tod,
>
>Just for the record, referring to Australian's as down-under makes about as
>sense as us referring to you guys as up-over. 


Just refer to us as being "on top", thank you very much.


> What the hell is a down-under-
>type for god sake?  Paul Hogan on a 6'6" earing Ken Done boardshorts???
>


No, more like a swaggie gone effete from exercising his libidinal energies
on animals with cloven hooves.  

Incidentally, this activity gives Australians a rare
form of anthrax that induces them to insert apostrophes before the "s"
in all plural nouns (cf. the current poster and all of Lud's posts). 



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From: smith@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au (Scott Smith)
Subject: Re: Board Repair
Organization: External Studies, Murdoch University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 02:55:32 GMT

In article <37887@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, tcritchl@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tod Critchlow) writes:

> ps  I was just wondering, do you down-under-types refer to your
> boards as a 6'6" or a 2M?
> -- 

G'day Tod,

Just for the record, referring to Australian's as down-under makes about as
sense as us referring to you guys as up-over.  What the hell is a down-under-
type for god sake?  Paul Hogan on a 6'6" earing Ken Done boardshorts???

My mates always refer to their boards in feet.  Answer your question?

Scott
From: tcritchl@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tod Critchlow)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Board Repair
Keywords: Advice Wanted
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:57:18 GMT


Hello again,

I am in need of a new board.
My 6'6" Thruster is about three years old
and I have a baby coming for an extended stay
at the end of the month.  That means that $$$$
are very tight.  

What I am wondering is it feasible to have an
old board repaired?  The deck is just starting to
delam, and there are numerous spiderweb cracks all over.
I like the board and am used to it so I wouldn't mind
being able to keep it.
We have a good repair shop here in SD(Joe Roper's)
and I guess I can give them a call, but before
I do, I thought I would just put the question up to
the croud here.

Tod

ps  I was just wondering, do you down-under-types refer to your
boards as a 6'6" or a 2M?
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Scripps Institution of Oceanography   |
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Hurricane Iniki-Surf Report
From: parish@vax.sonoma.edu
Date: 15 Sep 92 11:03:33 -0800
Organization: Sonoma State University


Hey, I can not believe you were surfing while that storm was coming.  
I live on the mainland california.  I'm at Sonoma State U.  Over 
here  on the news about the storm all they talked about was how the 
tourist were freaking out.  I was fully wondering about the surf.  
I'm so interested in Hawaii.  I was really wondering how pipe was, I 
thought it would be huge.  I wonder if I could surf there?
 
Be cool,
Parish
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Why professional surfing sucks
From: P.B.Halverson@massey.ac.nz (P.B. Halverson)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 21:01:17 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c

A few thoughts on this pro surfing sux thread:

1) Fletcher, and to a lesser extent Archbold, *are* pro surfers.  Try 
and locate a surf mag without their faces plastered all over them.  They 
just aren't of the caliber to be competitive surfers ala Curren and 
Slater, however.

2) The advances in board/wetsuit/etc...  technology did not occur  due 
to surfers on the dole demanding better equipment (asbestos coat on).  
The rising tide of an expanding market was largely responsible.  We need 
to tolerate the bad with the good.

3) Who the hell gave anyone the right to say who can surf or surf a 
particular break?  You want your *own* wave?  Get a job and buy a house 
at the Hollister Ranch.

Most times I'm glad pro surfing exists.  Surfers have always received a 
bum rap from the infidels.  The $$ typically involved at the pro level 
have lent some respectability to our beloved sport/religion/pasttime.

Cheers,

Phil
From: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Help NCN w/Assateague Beach Cleanup Saturday
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:46:45 GMT
Reply-To: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Followup-To: dc.general
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


I saw this on the local dc.general group and thought I would post it
here:

In dc.general, bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler) writes:
 Spend a day at the beach and help us make it even cleaner!

 National Capital Naturists is lending its efforts to
 the annual cleanup sponsored by the Committee to
 Preserve Assateague and invites all those interested
 to join in. It happens this Saturday.

 CPA will provide the trash bags, data recording sheets
 and pencils, and so forth; you bring a brown bag lunch,
 lots of water to drink, and plenty of DEET bug repellent
 (especially if the wind is from the WEST). Wear your green
 NCN T-shirt or something green if you don't have one yet.

 Afterwards, if you haven't had enough beach already,
 we'll reconvene on the north end of Assateague to
 frolic in the surf, naturally.
 ^^^^^^
 Details
 -------
 Meet at Assateague Island National Seashore's NORTH BEACH
 parking lot on the north corner at 09:30 AM Saturday,
 September 12, 1992.

 AMSA (Assateague Mobile Surfishers) will provide the
 four-wheel drive transportation to get us bipeds to
 our cleanup areas.

 The CPA flyer says the cleanup will end around 14:00,
 but there isn't that much on the beach to start with,
 so it might end earlier.

 Assateague Island is just south of Ocean City, MD.
 Aim for OC on Route 50, head south just prior to it on Route 611
 at brown NPS signs, cross the bridge, and turn right towards
 the federal beach.

 bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)

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