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From: jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics
Subject: Ren & Stimpy Comic
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:47:49
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu

=o= For folks on r.a.c{.m} who've been wondering about the
Ren & Stimpy comic, here's some news.

=o= I stress, though that this is not a *Marvel* comic _per_se_,
but rather an *Epic* comic.
    <_Jym_>
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=> From: jsbr+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Hamilton Slye)
=> Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
=> Subject: REN & STIMPY MARVEL COMIC!!!
=> Message-ID: <AedzKnq00iUyI7A1UA@andrew.cmu.edu>

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but....


REN & STIMPY #1 from Marvel Comics is supposed to ship October 6*, which
means...

YOU should be able to get it on Friday, October 9th from your favorite
comic book store!!! :-)

Those of you out there that read Marvel Comics would have seen a lot of
R&S allusions in the past few months!

* This information is from the August issue of Diamond Distributers' PREVIEWS.
  I recommend anyone wondering what's going on in the funny book business to
  pick up a copy. There was also an article in it on R&S and if people want me
  to I'll post it to the bboards.



=========================================================================
J. Hamilton Slye (jsbr@andrew.cmu.edu) 1071 Morewood Ave., Pgh, Pa. 15213

The opinions stated above do not necessarily reflect those of the author!

"Oooohhhh no! Forget that stuff!"  -  Ren Hoek, "The Ren & Stimpy Show"
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From: frost@netcom.com (John Frost)
Subject: Bladerunner Books
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 02:49:51 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

With the directors cut of Bladerunner to be released soon (I hope), I
was looking to get in the spirit by getting my hands on some comics 
that ring of BLADERUNNER

Either the actual movie, a character like Decker (ford), based on
a similar universe, you get the picture. Preferable not a bookxD
that spends alot of time dealing with 'super' powers.

Thanks in Advance

John

Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: mitchm@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mitchell Maltenfort)
Subject: Superman's Death/someone's missed the obvious...
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:25:19 GMT

	Having read Superman & World's Finest stories spanning the 50's to the
80's, I can point out the loophole they will use to return Superman to the
world of the living.  Mike Carlin hinted at this in an interview, when he said
"what happens when a Kryptonian dies?"

	More to the point:

	WHAT ARE A KRYPTONIAN'S VITAL SIGNS?

	He looks dead.  He don't move.  No heartbeat or EEG.  He's cold.  We
can't autopsy him 'cause we can't cut through his skin.  Guess he's dead,
let's bury him.

	Several months later, a very groggy Kryptonian is going to stagger out
of the cemetary trying to clear his head and figure out why people are
fainting when he comes up to them.  They may get some great black humor out of
this, but I doubt they'll pursue that angle.  What they might do, since Supes'
latest incarnation has become rather anal-retentive, is have the psychological
shock (he probably thought he was a goner, too) loosen his personality a bit.
From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: hey, that's WALT simonson doing superman!
Date: 11 Sep 92 02:03:15 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University

A #2 is unlikely, given that this issue was A: in the can for several years 
before being published this month, and B: a post-crisis retcon of a classic 
1970's Superman story under Denny O'Neill's editorial helm.  Y'know, if they 
had had the guts to stick with O'Neill's 'fix' of Superman back then, Man of 
Steel would have been unnecessary, and Supes mighta been alot more interesting 
a character in the early 80's.
     Dave Van Domelen, likes the Fleischer Supes that often isn't strong enough
to do the job by brute force and has to use brains....
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: morrow@fnalb.fnal.gov (Elmo the Vampire Slayer)
Subject: DC: More mail info
Organization: Buffy Franchises Corp.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 04:15:13 GMT
X-Posted-From: fnalb.fnal.gov
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

	The following is a message siphoned from COMICS-L regarding DC's
e-mail address (dccomics@mcimail.com).  The author is Len Strazewski, the
erstwhile writer of DC's Justice Society of America.

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I spoke with Bob Greenberger at DC yesterday, the man generally
responsible for handling MCI Mail downloads. Bob says he has
not signed on in some time as he has yet to learn new
communications software. As a result, many letters sent to MCI
Mail may not have gotten through. While Bob says he will
sign on soon, I'd suggest writers send back-up copies via snail
mail or fax  which is (212) 636-5430.

Thanks again for your support of JSA.

Len Strazewski
----------------------------Message ends-------------------------------

"Having a great body does you no good whatsoever if you have the kind of face  
where people are always saying you have a Nice Personality, meaning you can    
cause crops to fail just by looking at them."--Dave Barry                      
  
elmo (morrow@physics.rice.edu,morrow@fnal.fnal.gov)
From: steppe@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Top Changwatchai)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandspawn and Watchspawns
Date: 6 Sep 92 19:12:40 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <lsmith.715462000@milli> lsmith@milli.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
<Hmmmm.
<
<There was a rumor out of San Diego Con that Moore was going to do a comic. 
<for Image. We laughed. We snickered. "Yeah. Right." we said.
<
<Informed sources now say that this rumor is true. Alan Moore will write
<one issue of Spawn. ("But he compared Image comics to crack cocaine!" I cry.)
<
<Further, Neil Gaiman will also write one issue of Spawn.
<
<Supposedly this is all beyond the negotiation phase and into the it will
<happen phase.
<
<If I didn't know better I'd say this was a bad Squiddie joke.
<
<Anyone know if this is one of the signs of the apocalypse?   
<--
< Lance "Billy-Fish" Smith  | "Let me have players about me that are fat;
<    (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)    |  Slow-footed men and such as sleep o' nights;
<   "A dead mouse has no    |  Yond' Henderson has a lean and speedy look; 
<    entertainment value"   |  He steals too much: such players are dangerous." 
Please pardon my ignorance, but what is Spawn?  From the preceding posts I've
inferred that it's a bad comic put out by Image.  And what's a "Squiddie joke"?

Anybody care to enlighten me?

Top

-- 
steppe@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
"I'm gonna live forever or die trying."
From: chris@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Casey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Batman: the TV series
Date: 8 Sep 92 06:20:05 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <92249.202228JVI100@psuvm.psu.edu> JVI100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> was the way Bruce Wayne was drawn. He looked more like Clark Kent. 


Actually, he reminded me of Captain Stern from the Heavy Metal movie.  But like
you said, it's something I can overlook.  To me the good parts outweighed the
bad by a very *large* margin.  In fact, I think the only other thing I didn't
like was the fact that the Batmobile was so damn long.  But who knows, that 
might be realistic since we don't really know what's under the hood (although
I suppose someone out there does).  Anyway, my 2 cents....





Chris
From: quenelle@netcom.com (Chris Quenelle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Batman: the TV series
Date: 6 Sep 92 23:52:59 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


I also noticed that Bruce Wayne had a tiny head. ;-)
Or a huge body.  Whichever.  It didn't seem out of place on Batman,
though.  I'm glad they felt it necessary to maintain the same body build
on both Batman and Bruce Wayne.  To have Bruce Wayne mysteriously 'shrink'
to the proportions of a regular man would have been too jarring for me.
It woulod have detracted.  I handle the fact that nobody notices the
same way I handle the fact that nobody recognizes Superman as Clark Kent.
Just a willing suspension of disbelief.

The animation of the main characters was solid, but not fantastic.
The place where the animation excelled was in the backgrounds.  Like
the over-the-edge shoot off the roof.  It had cars moving along the street 
in the background.

I thought it was great.  I hope enough people can stand characterization at
the expense of a little action enough to make it popular.  I hope
Sunday Night's (tonight's) episode is part two, and not a replay of part one.

--chris
Purrs not Furrs -- by Olivia DeBerardinis
(Imagine high-quality GIF here)  ;-)


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 \ /   (510) 373-8023
==o==  quenelle@netcom.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  8823239)
Subject: Best of the week
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: rec.arts.comics.misc.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:17:10 GMT

Well I just got my new comics for the week and I can kiss another $35
good-bye. If I were a complete fanboy I would say invested, but I'm
trying to outgrow that. Anyway, here are what I feel were the best of
the Marvel's, DC's and independents.

Marvel:
Namor #32.- Never even collected the series, but I picked it up last
month on a lark because Dr. Doom was in it. Now granted Namor looks
completely unrealistic, but the art was stiil good. Jae Lee's art has
improved in leaps and bounds since his stuff on MCP. His Dr. Doom is
also one of the best looking ones I hve seen, second only to Simonson's
version in the FF. Decent story and I am looking forward to the Iron
Fist series next year.
Runner-up - Uncanny X-Men #294. Even though it's part of that damn
crossover, the story was good (Lobdell is getting better) and the art
wasn't to bad.

DC:

Doom Patrol #60(?) - Morrison's story just keeps getting weirder and
weirder.. However, this story is going on far to long and having each
ending as a cliffhanger is getting a bit tiring. Basically, there was no
a lot of good stuff out from DC this week which is why this one won.


Independent:

Grendel: War Child #2- Had never even seen a copy of Grendel before this
series, but I'm hooked. Nice art, violence (but not completely senseless
violence) and a solid story. Oh and there was that Bisely cover. Nice,
but a bit too dark for my liking.

Overall I thought it was a rather slow week. Nothing jumped and forced
me to read it several times with the exception of Namor and Grendel.
Hopefully the upcoming week will be better. How many weeks until the
next Sandman anyway?


*************************************************************************
* Craig Welsh                  *    "I'm a few bricks short of a       *
*                              *     load, but a full load always      *
* cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca     *     hurt my back."                    *
*                              *     "Crazy" - Barenaked Ladies        *
************************************************************************
* "Homeboy from Hell." Screw that. I'm the Waiter from Hell.           *
*  You figure out which is scarier.                                    *
************************************************************************

Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: mitchm@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mitchell Maltenfort)
Subject: Superman's death/the obvious loophole...
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:28:32 GMT

	(This may be a repost: my news server hiccupped.  If so, sorry.)

	Having read Superman & World's Finest stories spanning the 50's to the
80's, I can point out the loophole they will use to return Superman to the
world of the living.  Mike Carlin hinted at this in an interview, when he said
"what happens when a Kryptonian dies?"

	More to the point:

	WHAT ARE A KRYPTONIAN'S VITAL SIGNS?

	He looks dead.  He don't move.  No heartbeat or EEG.  He's cold.  We
can't autopsy him 'cause we can't cut through his skin.  Guess he's dead,
let's bury him.

	Several months later, a very groggy Kryptonian is going to stagger out
of the cemetary trying to clear his head and figure out why people are
fainting when he comes up to them.  They may get some great black humor out of
this, but I doubt they'll pursue that angle.  What they might do, since Supes'
latest incarnation has become rather anal-retentive, is have the psychological
shock (he probably thought he was a goner, too) loosen his personality a bit. 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: prec@ellis.uchicago.edu (bruce lyman precourt)
Subject: Re: Batman Animated: Feat of Clay
Reply-To: prec@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:43:33 GMT

In article <SS.92Sep10140710@wpi.WPI.EDU> ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:
>> On Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:14:11 GMT, prec@ellis.uchicago.edu (bruce lyman precourt) said:
>
>
>prec> - Batman using blatant methods of illegal coercion (i.e.,
>
>Geez, do you even read the comics? Batman does this sort of thing all
>the time. He will break the law (like breaking and entering) to serve
>justice. Threatening some low-life to save innocents is justified. I
>think your getting Batman confused with Superman...

Yes, I've been reading Batman comics since about 1964,
but I don't agree with all of 'em.

What is the difference between threatening to drop someone from
an airplane at x-hundred feet and holding a gun to their head?
Batman would not come across as very heroic if he did the latter,
(a scene I doubt would be included in a show aimed at children anyway),
so why is it acceptable to have him do the former?


Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: sta2534@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Cerebus: What If Sim Doesn't Make it to #300
Reply-To: sta2534@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:28:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.161123.11836@amhux2.amherst.edu>, cgarnett@amhux1.amherst.edu (Craig Garnett '87) writes:
>Arthur C. Adams (acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil) wrote:
>: After the recent thread about the hypothetical Cerebus #300, I've
>: been thinking: what if Dave Sim doesn't make it to #300 (polite
>: way of saying what if he dies?)
>: 
>: Does Gerhard know the plot? What about his ex-wife, Deni Loubert (sp?)?
>: 
>: Anyone? Anyone?
>
>According to Dave, Gerhard has some idea of where things are going over
>the short term, but at this point, he definitely doesn't know what #300
>is going to look like. If Dave kicked around 290 or so, Gerhard could
>probably finish it out, though from all accounts, he doesn't draw the
>aardvark at all, so we might see some of the "early Cerebus" style back
>if Gerhard had to close out the set. 
>
>While I can imagine that way back when Dave probably would have told
>Deni some kind of broad outline of what the story was going to be, and
>with all due respect to Dave's assertion that he's had it in mind for a
>long time, I suspect that his ideas on where things are going have
>probably changed enough to make anything Deni could say pretty worthless
>at this point. Hell, Dave's mentioned in several Notes from the Pres and
>in Aardvark Comment that he'd changed his
>mind about certain things. :)

I think Dave Sim intends for Cerebus to die in the final issue.  I haven't
read any of the interviews, but saw the ad space in the inside back cover
of Spawn #3 where Dave was quoted as saying that he envisioned the book as
cronicling the life adventures of Cerebus and ending with his death in #300.

By the way, I feel that Cerebus is overpriced.  It's black and white, printed
on newspaper stock, and only contains 20 pages of story per issue; so why the 
hell is it $2.25???  Don't say it's because of low print runs, because Dark 
Horse Presents is printed on acid-free paper, not the kind used in newspapers,
yet it's the same price.

Steve A.
From: cgarnett@amhux1.amherst.edu (Craig Garnett '87)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Cerebus: What If Sim Doesn't Make it to #300
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:11:23 GMT
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Arthur C. Adams (acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil) wrote:
: After the recent thread about the hypothetical Cerebus #300, I've
: been thinking: what if Dave Sim doesn't make it to #300 (polite
: way of saying what if he dies?)
: 
: Does Gerhard know the plot? What about his ex-wife, Deni Loubert (sp?)?
: 
: Anyone? Anyone?

According to Dave, Gerhard has some idea of where things are going over
the short term, but at this point, he definitely doesn't know what #300
is going to look like. If Dave kicked around 290 or so, Gerhard could
probably finish it out, though from all accounts, he doesn't draw the
aardvark at all, so we might see some of the "early Cerebus" style back
if Gerhard had to close out the set. 

While I can imagine that way back when Dave probably would have told
Deni some kind of broad outline of what the story was going to be, and
with all due respect to Dave's assertion that he's had it in mind for a
long time, I suspect that his ideas on where things are going have
probably changed enough to make anything Deni could say pretty worthless
at this point. Hell, Dave's mentioned in several Notes from the Pres and
in Aardvark Comment that he'd changed his
mind about certain things. :)

-C




: -- 
: The world is not analog. The world is digital,
: with an incredible number of bits.
: Arthur C. Adams (not the comic-book artist)                        <fnord>
: E-Mail acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: quenelle@netcom.com (Chris Quenelle)
Subject: Re: Rick Veitch's "The One"
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 18:03:20 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Sep9.175010.549@zooid.guild.org> ecurrent@zooid.UUCP (Greg Clow) writes:
>
>Hey.  I'm a big fan of Rick Veitch's BRAT PACK and MAXIMORTAL, and I was
>wondering if his earlier series, THE ONE, is worth checking out.  I've seen
>copies of all six issues at a couple of shops for cover price, so, I'm
>considering picking it up, but I'd like some commentary first.  Post or email,
>it's up to you.

I tried EMail, but it bounced.
I'll give you the condensed version ;-)

You should get the back issues, because I think the color adds a lot.
The trade paperback is in black and white.  (I didn't know about the
stuff in the back).

Go for it, it's great!

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: dpearson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Pearson)
Subject: Re: Batman: Gotham Nights
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 17:33:34 GMT

kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER) writes:

>A friend asked me to find out what the general feeling about this series was?

>Personaly I liked it.

>---SCAV

I liked it too.  I thought it handled the different stories very well, even 
though it wasn't action-packed.  Unfortunaltely, I've forgotten a lot of the 
details because I haven't read them for a while because of school.


******************************** BATMAN ***************************************

                           /\    /\_/\    /\            The Bat
                          /  \__/     \__/  \           The Cat          
                         (                   )        The Penguin  
                          \  /--\     /--\  /
                           \/    \   /    \/   
                                  \ /
                                   V

         David M. Pearson                      dpearson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
         University of Illinois                PEARSON@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
*******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: CEREBUS: Coupla Usenet Interview Thingies
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:53:06 GMT

Alexx@world.std.com (Alexx S Kay) writes:
>The map of Estarcion maps fairly plausibly onto Europe, if you accept that they
>have little/primitive enough sea travel that England and Africa are not shown.
>I figure Palnu for Italy, with Mealc being that island I can never remember 
>the name of just off the tip of the "boot".  Eshnospur would be Spain, the
>Sepran Empire might be France.  All the barbarian tribes in the Red Marches
                        ^^^^^^
                      Lower Feldwar   

>would be Germanic.  This is all totally random speculation of course, but I
>thought I'd throw it out to the net...

-- 
Learning without thought is labor lost; thought without learning is perilous.
From: mwinston@lust.reed.edu (Michael J. Winston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: NHS 3 1/2
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:43:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Sep15.194305.14732
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

I'm a recent NHS convert and have started looking for the back issues.   
Someone told me there was a NHS 3 1/2.  Is he making it up?  IS it going  
to be reprinted in NHS in Color?

Any info would be appreciated.

Michael
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: bn510@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Matthew L. High)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: The Great USENet comics shop list
Date: 12 Sep 1992 00:09:46 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Hey all!  Know of any good comics shops that are friendly to
independent comics?

If so, let me know - I'm compiling a list of independent-friendly
comics shops.  Let me know -

The name of the shop (or shops)
The address(es) or phone #'s if known
A very brief description - is it big?  Is it small?  Lots of back issues?
  Subscription service?  Lots of new titles?  Friendly, knowledgeable
  staff?  Etc, etc.

As soon as I have a good # of shops gathered, I'll post the list.

Thanks in advance for all of your recommendations!

 - net.spy!  (bn510@cleveland.freenet.edu)

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From: vanyel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Williams)
Subject: Re: JSA #3
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:48:57 GMT

In <=9vnw1+.dani@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:

>That they acknowledge their surrender to genre formula does not make it
>less of a surrender.

Considering the tripe going on in the Titans books, and the tripe in the
LSH book (soon to be books), I think the Flash/GL exchange should get
points for calling a spade a spade.

I thought JSA had all the elements necessary to make the story fun: Johnny
Thunder's return (though I thought the word was "Badhinisian," not
"Badnesian"); Doctor Mid-Nite's return; finding out a little about Johnny
Quick and Liberty Belle's whereabouts (complete with a daughter in
*graduate* school!); and the continued acknowledgement that things have
changed since the JSAers' primes.


--

 _______________ Alan Williams | vanyel@camelot.bradley.edu _________________
 \/ "Are you afraid I'm jeopardizing my secret identity, Ned?  I don't     \/
     *have* one, remember?"  --The Black Condor, _Black Condor_ #5