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From: chris@surfcty.UUCP (Chris Johnston)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Intel 14.4ex
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 21:56:34 PDT
Organization: Surf City Software, Orange, Calfornia - DUDE!

dd6kdn0@baarsa.bell-atl.com (Maurer) writes:

> I am looking into purchasing an Intel 14.4ex modem.
> Has anybody had experience with this modem and
> would like to enlighten me?
> 

Paul -

I have owned my Intel 14.4ex for about 6 months now.  Absolutle
dream of a device.  I have been using it to benchamrk other
devices since it is sooo reliable.

Out of Quicktel (Xeba), Supra, Intel and Hayes, I feel that
the Intel documentation is by far the best.  I get nothing but
quick polite expert support from Intel when I call.

Call the other companies metioned above, save Hayes, you
may not get the great support.

If I had to buy a new modem, I would definitely go with
Intel.  Go with Hayes, if you got the extra buck and prefer
the Hayes name.  Otherwise, Intel and Hayes are my favorites.

Chris


Chris D. Johnston       714/289-8543 (Voice) 8AM~7PM PST
Surf City Software      714/289-1002 (Fax)
Orange, CA  92669       AppleLink: SURF.CITY
chris@surfcty.UUCP      surfcty!chris@UUNET.UU.NET
From: Richard_Parson@mindlink.bc.ca (Richard Parson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: SupraFax v.32bis in Canada yet?
Date: 15 Apr 92 10:22:59 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Brendan Duddridge writes:
> 
> Hi, has anyone in Canada received a SupraFAX v.32bis modem yet?

Yup.  CARDZ computers has 4 SUPRA V.32bis modems on their BBS at 604-734-5400
(they sold their 4 HSTs to pay for 'em)

CARDZ received a shipment of 20 SUPRAs and sold 'em all within a day.


                                       Richard
From: geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Telebit Loyalty pays
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 23:03:12 EDT
Organization: Izot's Swamp

traub@rtf.bt.co.uk (Michael Traub) writes:

> In article <5ee5iB2w164w@zswamp.UUCP> geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh) writ
> >   For that you should blame your country's telco regulators...
> 
> Wrong. What makes you think you know anything about UK law?

   What makes you think that you know anything about being polite?!?

> I wonder how many times this has to be stated before it gets through. The
> T3000 (and any other non BABT approved) modem can legally be sold in the
> UK. There are many companies in the UK selling non-approved modems, the
> fact that it is illegal to connect the modem to the phone system doesn't
> make the act of selling the modem illegal. Got it now?

   So, you want Telebit to sell their T3000 in the UK, along with a warning 
that these devices are not approved and should not be plugged into the British 
public switched phone system?!?  You know, I know, Telebit knows, and even 
your bureaucrats must know what people are going to do with those T3000s. 

   You challenge Telebit's integrity because they don't take advantage of a 
loophole in the law and encourage, let alone condone, their customers to do 
something illegal.

   Look, Mac, you're upset because the situation isn't in your favour... but 
don't try to make Telebit look like a second rate company because they have 
chosen not to pull a low (though legal) stunt like the one you suggest.  And 
don't be telling me (rudely) how little I know about British law when your own 
statements illuminate the unethical nature of selling unapproved modems to 
consumers.

Geoffrey Welsh, 412-305 Margaret Avenue, Kitchener Ontario, N2H 6S4 Canada
geoff@zswamp.uucp, { watmath!xenitec | m2xenix }!zswamp!geoff (519)742-1228
"Show us your sig." "Seeg?  I don't need no steenking seeg!"
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: albertw@netcom.com (Albert Wong)
Subject: Re: Supra BUSY signaling problem.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 02:48:32 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Apr10.235538.18931@serval.net.wsu.edu> jeffp@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Jeff Parke;S10000) writes:
>
>How many Supra v.32bis modems have people seen this on?  It doesn't sound
>real rare from what I've been seeing here.
>

Hmmm...I've been sucessful getting the busy signal detect to work
calling from both a PBX at work (there is supposed to be a problem
calling from certain PBX's, I must be lucky) and calling from a direct
line at home.

-- 
+-------------------------------------------------+
| Albert Wong                                     |
| albertw@netcom.com                              |
+-------------------------------------------------+
| "Welcome to the Jusenkyo Spa and Resort Hotel!" |
+-------------------------------------------------+
From: klxtho01@uctvax.uct.ac.za
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Agent for Supra in South Africa
Date: 6 Apr 92 10:39:06 +0200
Keywords: modems, Supra
Organization: University of Cape Town

Does anyone know who the agent for Supra is in South Africa (specifically Cape
Town)? Otherwise, can someone give me the address as to where I can find out?


Thanx and cheers.
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.modems:6219 comp.protocols.ppp:529
From: bill.garfield@yob.sccsi.com (Bill Garfield) 
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: recommended modems
Date: 5 Apr 92 22:26:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ye Olde Bailey BBS - Houston, TX - 713-520-1569
Reply-To: bill.garfield@yob.sccsi.com (Bill Garfield) 

TO: jcarton@amex-trs.com (Jeff D. Carton)

>This maybe a FAQ but ...

>I am looking to configure a remote IP site using slip/ppp and need a
>recommended high speed modem. I'd like to run at at least 19.2 and
>higher (38.4) if possible.

>Does anyone have any suggestions on what modem is best to use ?

IMHO, a modem which is downline remotely configurable, such as the
new MultiModem II line from MultiTech Systems, Inc. would be ideal
for such an application.  Their newest, soon to begin shipping model
MT1432BA is a full featured 14.4k bps modem offering serial port
speeds up to and including 57.6 K bps.  This will of course operate
sync or async over dial-up or leased circuits.   For 4-wire leased
circuit applications MultiTech is also about to offer their MT1432BL
which will auto-switch to dial backup anytime the leased circuit
fails & then switch back to lease when the circuit is restored.

MultiTech Systems is located in Mounds View, MN, a suburb of
St.Paul (Made in USA!!) and can be contacted at 1-800-328-9717.

---
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From: wbt@cs.tulane.edu (Bill Thomason)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: 9600 baud modem suggestions
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:33:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr16.143312.29962
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-29888]: proteus


I'm doing some preliminary shopping for 9600 baud modems.  If we do buy some
they'll be used with a terminal server on dial-in lines.  I have little
experience with 9600 baud modems and would appreciate any input and
suggestions you might have on brands, models and the place where you
purchased your modem(s).

Thanks in advance,
-bill
-- 
Bill Thomason                           Email: wbt@cs.tulane.edu
Dept. of Computer Science                      thomason@cs.tulane.edu
Tulane University                              rex!wbt
New Orleans, LA 70118
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.mac.comm
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Supra V.32bis (Disappointment)
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:09:05 GMT

 John> == John S. Mitchell <jsm2r@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU> 

 John> Using the modem on a Mac IIsi, I set my software for hardware
 John> handshaking and a communication rate of 57600 (computer to
 John> modem). Much to my chagrin, the text that came through from all
 John> the bbs's I tried was marred by numerous dropouts, [...]

 John> [Supra said "the Mac serial ports can't go over 19,200]

This is utter unadulterated bushwah.  My poor sluggish SE can connect to
a Telebit T3000 at 57,600 with hardware handshaking, and though it winds
up only getting about 1000cps of "real" throughput, it doesn't drop
characters; it just tells the modem to stop sending.

If an SE can do it, you'd better believe a IIsi can handle it.

Supra's modem is probably not stopping quickly enough when it gets a
handshake from the machine.  *sigh* Sometimes you still get what you pay
for (though I didn't pay for the T3000, I borrowed it from work ;-).
--
Christopher Davis <ckd@eff.org> |    ECONOMIC OBSERVATIONS DEPARTMENT
System Manager & Postmaster     |  "There's always something going out of
Electronic Frontier Foundation  |      business in Central Square."
+1 617 864 0665  NIC: [CKD1]    |   -Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@eff.org>
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.modems:6451 comp.sys.mac.comm:4535
From: aaron@spectrx.saigon.com (Aaron Anderer)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Supra V.32bis (Disappointment)
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:35:46 GMT
Organization: SPECTROX SYSTEMS (408)252-1005 Silicon Valley, Ca

wc7044@writer.yorku.ca (Joel Atkin) writes:

> Wait a minute.  I thought that v.32bis gives 38400, and plain v.42
> gives 14400 bps.

v.32bis gives 14,400 baud, and the serial port is connected to the modem
at 38,400baud or 56,700baud.
v.42 and v.42bis are not modulation standards like v.22,v.32, and v.32bis
it is just for error correction and compression

> least compatable with v.42 (or v.32bis which Ray says....or what ever
> the hell gives you 14400 bps)

the hst uses a proprietary modulation technique to get 14,400 baud, which
is completely incompatible with everything but USR modems

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Aaron Anderer, System Operator                aaron@spectrx.saigon.com
SPECTROX SYSTEMS +1 408 252 1005              szebra!spectrx!aaron          
                    Jerry Brown - Jesse Jackson '92
From: larry@news.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: who sells BLAST?
Date: 14 Apr 92 10:57:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site (219)289-0777

adler@nic.cerf.net (Bruce Adler) writes:

>It's sold by Communications Research Group which is a subsidiary
>of US Robotics. The CRG phone number is 508-923-0888. I've got
>an old copy of Blast but haven't yet tried it.

Blast is exteremely expensive considering what you get -- 

ProYam (contact caf@omen) does much more for much less :)

-- 
Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.rn.com
keeper of the 'gator                                uucp: uunet!trauma!larry
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: mjkobb@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Michael J Kobb)
Subject: V.42bis delays (SupraFax v.32bis)
Organization: M.I.T. Media Laboratory
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 03:53:59 GMT

Greetings!

  I've just received my new SupraFaxModem v.32bis (#125), and am
overall quite pleased with the performance (beats the sh*t out of
2400!).

  I do, however, have a question.  When I connect with all the bells
and whistles on (v.32bis, v.42, v.42bis), I notice a large lag in
performance for interactive work.

  Specifically, plain typing is fine.  Large transfers (100's of K)
are quite good (~1450cps -- I don't know what's limiting this), but
medium-sized things (like displaying a full page of text with more
or emacs) incurs a dead stop in transmission about ten lines down, a
pause for over a second, and then the rest of the page.

  WHY???  Do all v.42bis modems do this?  I found that for basic
text editing, I'm better off with the compression/error detection
off.  However, I'd like to use the correction, because my line is a
bit noisy, and there's nothing worse than random characters in an
Emacs newsreader!  :-)

  I don't know much about v.42/42bis, but I understand that it
builds a 'dictionary'.  Does it somehow not build a dictionary until
it detects sustained transfer, and then incurs some overhead to
start?  A bit of experimentation seems to indicate something like
this: 'more'ing a file gives that lag at the top of every page.
'cat'ing it gives only one lag -- the first one.  Or, maybe it's
frame size.

  If the phenomenon causing this is something like what I describe,
can I set some sort of threshold that determines when it starts
building the dictionary?  A simple 80x40 screen is all I ask, and
that pause is really unacceptable.

Thanks!
--Mike
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: mjkobb@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Michael J Kobb)
Subject: Re: Supra v.32bis and BUSY signal
Organization: M.I.T. Media Laboratory
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 00:36:14 GMT

In article <qQk+4#@engin.umich.edu> gentry@predator.engin.umich.edu (Denton Gentry) writes:
[...[
>   I'm currently working on a script to use the modem with AppleTalk Remote 
>   Access. Hopefully I'll get it working tonight.
> 
>    Denny Gentry
>    University of Michigan

Hi,

  Don't bother.  Call Supra's BBS (number's in the manual), and
download theirs.  It works fine.  Boy, ARA is NICE at 14.4!!!

--Mike
From: Jim.Russell@umagic.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Supra BUSY signaling problem.
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 08:41:14 CDT
Organization: Micro Magic

They have a problem Jeff. I'm on my second modem and it will not detect 
a busy signal on  my home line and it will not detect a busy signal 
on three other lines I tried. The old Everex 24/96 modem has no problem.
I read where there are many other users having trouble with the busy 
signal detect. Could be this is a problem with a few phone company 
systems or what ever. The fact remains that it is a Supra problem 
when you can put another brand modem on the same line with the same 
software and not have a problem. 


--  
 * Jim.Russell@umagic.FIDONET.ORG via Micro Magic
From: tnixon@hayes.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Supra V.32bis (Disappointment)
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:17:06 GMT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <1992Apr6.173059.23525@eff.org>, hshubs@eff.org (Howard
Shubs) writes: 

> My understanding is that V.32 = 9600, V.32bis = compression for
> effective 14400, V.42 = ecc, V.42bis = compression for effective 38400.

This is wrong.  V.32bis is NOT "compression", but is actually faster 
modulation. V.42bis can provide up to 4-to-1 data compression on 
many different modulation schemes, including V.32bis; thus, 
thoughput up to 57,600bps is possible.

> I would _expect_ this modem to drop chars at a speed faster than
> 38400.

I wouldn't, if the modem is designed for higher bit rates on the 
DTE-DCE interface, and if flow control is functioning properly.

-- 
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Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc.  | Fax     +1-404-447-0178  CIS   70271,404
P.O. Box 105203                     | BBS     +1-404-446-6336  AT&T    !tnixon
Atlanta, Georgia  30348             | UUCP uunet!hayes!tnixon  Fido   1:114/15
USA                                 | Internet                tnixon@hayes.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: naddy@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Christian Weisgerber)
Subject: Re: sz and rz in UNIX
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Distribution: eunet
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:45:02 GMT

cchen@unixg.ubc.ca (Chia-tung Chen) writes:

>I hope someone can help me with this problem for I am really anxious
>to know the answer. Does "sz" and "rz" work with IBM/PC's z-modem
>protocol? I thought I just have to do "sz <filename>", and my
>"telix" on the PC side would automatically download the file
>with no problem. Well, "telix" does recognize and z-modem initialization,
>but the transfer is never successful. The error messages are
>  1. "sub-packet length is too long"
>  2. "0-Garbage Count exceed limit"
>  3. "0-Time Out"

Sounds *very* familiar to me.
Try

	stty raw

before and

	stty -raw

after the transfer on the unix host. That might help.


bye
-- 
Christian Weisgerber				naddy@rhrk.uni-kl.de
From: ciaran@aldhfn.akron.oh.us (Skip Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re:  Supra V.32bis FAXmodem
Distribution: world
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:58:11 EST
Organization: Auldhaefen Associates

In article <DVC.92Apr7144919@eagle.ATT.COM> dvc@eagle.hr.att.com (David Van Cleef) writes:
>>>>>> On 7 Apr 92 17:51:19 GMT, gsnow@clark.edu (Gary Snow) said:
[...]
>I'm not familiar with the Class 1/Class 2 type modems, but I could
>conceive of a fax-getty program run instead of getty which would take
>the answer result-code from the modem and either exec a fax receive
>program or /bin/login depending on the connect type.  Wouldn't this be
>possible, or is there something in the design of the class 1/2 command
>set that would prevent this?

	This is exactly what is being done with Amigas. Getty was modified
to work with faxes as well. There are several Amigas running UUCP and
sending/recieving faxes with these modems. Now if I only had the time to
get mine setup that way.

Skip
--
Skip Watson  | Email:   ciaran@aldhfn.akron.oh.us    or    ciaran@aldhfn.UUCP
mitakuye oyasin                     May wakan tanka guide and watch over you.
"Nothing is forgotten. Nothing is ever forgotten." (will be in Latin someday)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.mac.comm
From: williams@gamma.is.tcu.edu (MARK WILLIAMS)
Subject: Re: Supra V.32bis (Disappointment)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: supra, v.32bis, v32bis, mac, macintosh
Organization: Texas Christian University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 03:22:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.193355.10895@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes...
>gsnow@clark.edu (Gary Snow) writes:
>>Leave it to a 286 head to take the first shot.  The Macs Serial port has
>>ALL the pins that are necessary for HW Flow Control, you just can't have
>>DTR, but then you don't need to have DTR for dial-up either.
>*----
>Why are you looking at it like it's a fight?  What he said was correct:
>The Macintosh doesn't have enough lines to FULLY implement an RS-232
>port.  Yes, you can have hardware handshaking by sacrificing DTR, but
>that is NOT handled consistently by all Mac applications (and hey,
>isn't a consistent interface what the mac purports to be about?) and
>it is NOT handled consistently by all Mac serial cables.  Maybe YOU
>don't need DTR for dial up, but most of my modems and RS-232 monitoring
>equipment, if there's no DTR, there's no device there.
>--


But --

Apple does sell a NuBus 4-port serial card that uses DB25 connectors and the
CTB.  Wonder if it fully supports RS232D?

Mark
From: zatar@dadstoy.uucp (Terry Stockdale)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Telebit Loyalty pays
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 21:13:39 CDT
Organization: Lots of little files on drive D:

traub@rtf.bt.co.uk (Michael Traub) writes:

> >   Look, Mac, you're upset because the situation isn't in your favour... but
> >don't try to make Telebit look like a second rate company because they have 
> >chosen not to pull a low (though legal) stunt like the one you suggest.  And
> >don't be telling me (rudely) how little I know about British law when your o
> >statements illuminate the unethical nature of selling unapproved modems to 
> >consumers.
> >
> There is nothing unethical about it. It is about as unethical as minimising
> tax payments.
> 
> You also seem to be confusing ethics and the law.
> 
> -- 
> Michael Traub
> BT Customer Systems, Brighton Systems Centre. traub@rtf.bt.co.uk

You might look at your self in the mirror when you say that, Michael.  

Ethics are what we tell ourselves that we can do for or to others.
Laws are what our cities/states/provinces/countries tell us that we can or 
must do.  

Your laws say that YOU can't connect a T-3000 to your UK phone system.  You are
upset that Telebit won't encourage you to break the law easily by selling you
a T-3000.  Who is on the shaky ethical ground?

Your statement "about as unethical as minimizing tax payments" would more 
properly be rephrased as "about as unethical as encouraging tax evasion."

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From: mark@legend.akron.oh.us (Mark E Daniel)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Supra V.32bis FAXmodem
Followup-To: comp.dcom.modems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mark@legend.akron.oh.us
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:46:16 EDT
Organization: The Legend BBS Public Access (216)825-2747

In article <1992Apr7.175119.9791@clark.edu> gsnow@clark.edu (Gary Snow) writes:
>
> In article <1992Apr6.233751.29706@unixg.ubc.ca> jeffrey@squid.tram.com writes:
> >
> >Next, can this modem both send *and receive* fax data?  If so, how
> >does the calling fax machine manage to get past the standard login
> >prompt?
>
> Simple, it wouldn't.

Most FAX machines are going to connect before the modem tones get sent.
But some FAXModems look for the (CMG?) tones from a FAX machine and will
go into receive FAX mode.

>
> >Can I run UUCP and incoming fax off the same modem?
>
> No, these type of modems are not intended for BBS/Dial-Up Computer
> Systems to send and receive FAXes, thats only something intended for a
> Stand-alone computer system to do.  Thats not to say thought that you
> couldn't run your FAX software in the background under unix and have the
> Supra line as a FAX modem only line, and have other lines as regular
> Dial-Up lines.

Maybe you can not do this with current implemtations of UNIX FAX software,
but it can be done.  I am running AmigaUUCP on my Amiga, and I have a
special getty which receives the FAX connect information from my ZyXEL.
Getty then spawns the Receive Fax program and the FAX transfer goes normally.
I use my data line as a UUCP/BBS and FAX number.
--
Mark E Daniel (Keeper of legend) Data/Fax (v.32bis/G3) +1 (216) 825-2747
Internet: mark@legend.akron.oh.us   UUCP: Yes, why?
How to look for things that are lost - convince yourself you're looking for
something else.
From: leop@percy.rain.com (Leo)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Supra v.32bis and BUSY signal
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:12:23 GMT
Organization: Percy's mach, Portland, OR

larry@news.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:

>gentry@predator.engin.umich.edu (Denton Gentry) writes:

>>  I got my Supra v.32bis yesterday, serial number 14e000405. Any body else 
>>have that serial number?

>how can someone else have a modem of the same model with the same
>serial number?

You must have missed those postings!  Seems that the first batch they
sent out ALL had the same serial number!!  And confusion reigned...
From: Jeff.Lindstrom@ofa123.fidonet.org (Jeff Lindstrom)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Supra V.32bis (Disappointment)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 12:48:46 PDT
Organization: Universal Electronics Inc. (Public access BBS)

  Your limited speed with your Mac is disappointing, but not limited to your own setup.  I have read several messages having to do with people who only have a 16450 UART in their system, limiting their speed as well.  They have to upgrade to a 16550 UART to get full speed.
  The problem is not with your modem (I get full speed with V.32bis/V.42bis on my Amiga with my Supra), so you cannot reasonably blame Supra.
  The same is true if you call CompuServe at 9600 and their modem's server is so overloaded that you only get 400 cps data rates.


--  

Jeff Lindstrom
Internet: Jeff.Lindstrom@ofa123.fidonet.org
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