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From: kirstin@tramp.Colorado.EDU (Kirstin Hensley)
Subject: Re: EGGPLANT, IMPLANT, EMPATH, BLAZEPLANT...
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:50:54 GMT

In article <torrie.721468352@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie) writes:
>dtiberio@csws20.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) writes:
>
>>	NONE OF THE ABOVE.
>>	EMPLANT = DEATH OF HIGH PRICED MACINTOSH.
>>	FULL MACINTOSH QUADRA SYSTEMS FOR UNDER $4,000.
>
>  Hmmm.  Look at my price list
>
>M5921LL/A Macintosh Quadra 700 4MB RAM             $3227.00
>
>Been there, done that.
 
Yeah, but as a student without a hard drive.... Not that Emplant is extant,
judging from all the posts in c.s.a.emulations, but just comparing CPU
power and standard configurations, the A4000 still comes out ahead of the 
Quadra.

John Hensley, posting from a borrowed account -- other addresses:
john@clinicom.com, jhensley@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: NO MORE *&#*$(^*& FEMALE BIMBO ADS!!!!!!!!
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:40:25 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Nov5.054705.20884@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> seifert@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael S. Seifert) writes:
> In article <Paula_Lieberman.071i@amicol.UUCP> Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman) writes:
> >addendum to previous article:  Don't whistle at women, and they won't get
> >pissed off about it.  If you're going to whistle, then you ARE deserving of
> >any and all shit that hits you for it.  It -is- sexual harassment, whether
> >YOU think so or not, and it IS a crime in the United States.
> >
> Thinking that whistling at a female is sexual harassment and is (or even 
> should be) a crime in the US makes you a sniveling liberal in my book.
> 
> If you want real sexual harASSment (lets not glorify the term by pronouncing
> it different here in the 90s), you should see me slap girls in the ass just
> because I can...
> 
> mike seifert, real harasser

Will you please take this childish prattle out of *comp*.*sys*.*amiga*.advocacy?

-- 
George Robbins - now working for,     work:   to be avoided at all costs...
but no way officially representing:   uucp:   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr
Commodore, Engineering Department     domain: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls)
Subject: If A600 ~= C64, Does A1200 ~= C128?
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:00:03 GMT

Well, what do you think?

The A600 has been called the next C64 by some parties.  Does this make the
A1200 the next C128?  In terms of packaging, pricing, marketing, etc., there
does seem to be some sort of pattern.  I don't recall the exact numbers, but
I believe that the C128 sold fairly well, perhaps on the order of 3 million
machines.  If Commodore can sell 10 million or so A600s, 3 million or so 
A1200s, and another 1-2 million A3000s and A4000s, the world would be a much
nicer place.  Imagine 20 million Amigas worldwide...  :-)

And if history repeats itself, there will be an A1200D in the near future.
That should satisfy the folks who want Commodore to sell either an A1000
style or pizza box style Amiga.

Skip Sauls
skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett)
Subject: Re: Clinton/Gore (Was: A4000 graphics)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 10:22:55 GMT

In article <1d9p0tINN1k6@uwm.edu> bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block) writes:
>Annoy Bill Clinton!  Send him the Playboy with J. Flowers on the cover!
>Annoy his wife!      Send him the Playboy with J. Flowers on the cover!

   Actually, that's Penthouse.  (No, I haven't read it or even seen it.  I've
just heard it mentioned)

>Annoy the Ecologists! Empty all of your oil tankers into the ocean and
>			drop a lit cigarette!
>Annoy Dan Barrett!  Erase all of his copies of BLAZEMONGER!
>Annoy Dave Haynie!  Stick him in "super-low-under-$3.50-end"
>			development!
>Annoy C=!  Have a rummage sale in their warehouse!
>Come on folks, join in.  ;)
   OK... :-)

   Annoy Rush Limbaugh: send him pictures of himself before he lost weight!!

   Annoy George Bush: send him tapes of his "No New Taxes" pledge!!

   Annoy Jay Leno: vote against Dan Quayle!! (Oh, you've already done that...)

   Annoy Teddy Kennedy: ask him where he was after he dunked his car in a
river!!!

   Annoy the Democratic party: point out that Clinton received a smaller 
portion of the popular vote than Dukakis did in 1988!!

   Annoy the Commedians: point out that Bill Clinton ALSO has four names!!!
[William Jefferson Bligh Clinton]

>(: (: (: (: Have you overdosed on smileys today?  Why NOT!?! :) :) :) :)
>(:	"Well, you can't EAT a Clinton, but vote for him anyways."    :)
>(:		        (Wubba, Pig Extrordinaire)		      :)
>(: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

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| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
--------------------------------------------------------------------
"You thought you'd gotten rid of the President with four names?  HA!
Welcome to the presidency, William Jefferson Bligh Clinton!" -- me
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: dleland@dante.nmsu.edu (LELAND)
Subject: PowerPC: how much of a threat?
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:20:56 GMT

I keep hearing ye olde rumors floating around that the Power PC being built
by Apple and IBM is going to be the greatest computer ever made since the
world began. It will cost 5 cents, raise the dead, stop time, talk to God,
display 600 bajillion colors at a resolution of a bajillion by a bajillion,
etc. Everybody will own one, and every other comper will become a doorstop. 

Well, seriously, how much of a threat is it really? I remember a few years
ago everybody was hooting and predicting doom for the Amiga because of the
NeXT. Well, NeXT has been out for a while and hasn't killed the Amiga. My
brother, who works for IBM, told me that he was at a joint IBM/Apple employees
party and it nearly came to blows twice. This doesn't exactly sound like the
sweetheart relationship I've read about elsewhere. How fares it all? IS the
Amiga doomed? Or what? I'm trying to keep an open mind, but it sounds alot
like the kind of stuff that Apple was spouting when they introduced Hypercard.
Remember? It was going to be a revolution in human communications, would bring
about a whole new area of human perception, and so on. Rather an overstatement.


Queen of Swords
(Darrell Leland)
dleland@nmsu.edu
From: efp90@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Pritchard EF)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Amiga-1200 is not for me...
Keywords: amiga,commodore,amiga 1200,me!
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:57:57 GMT

In <10667547.335.720924665@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au> 10667547@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (JIMMY FANG) writes:

>I believe Commodore should release and Amiga 3000 class computer with

>	o  AGA chipset
>	o  KS3.xx
>	o  HD floppy drives
>	o  120+ meg Hard-drive
>		(IDE or SCSI - I doubt I would have more than two hard 
>		drives)	
>	o  68030 @25mhz (@40mhz if they were generous)
>	 	  with MMU (so we can check for enforcer hits..:)
>	o  PCMIA slot 
>	o  SLOTS 
>	o  option for DSP (I have lots of friends who write music/mods :)

>at the current A3000 price (okay, you can charge a little bit more..8-)

YES! And its called the A4000/030!

Commodore `leaked' this themselves in some A4000 spec sheets they were
giving out at the UK Future Entertainment Show. On the Spec Sheet it
had a line like (quoting from memory):

  Processor: Motorola 68040 @ 28 Mhz *

and down the bottom it had:

  * A4000/030 has a Motorola 68030


So, it looks likely (read certain) that the machine you ask for will
very soon be availiable!!!!

----

E.F.Pritchard                       ///
efp90@uk.ac.soton.ecs           \\\/// Amiga     My A1200 will be here 
University of Southampton        \xx/            tomorrow!!!!
England.                                         

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: pk-asdg@cup.portal.com (Perry S Kivolowitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: MorphPlus Used On Quantum Leap
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 14:20:30 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world


The episode of Quantum Leap, which aired last night (November 10)
contained morph effects created using ASDG's MorphPlus and transferred
back to digital video using ASDG's Abekas driver.

I'm sure you all will share in our pride of seeing the Amiga used in
this high profile way.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: etxansk@garbo.ericsson.se
Subject: Re: Amusement over Falcon buffs
Originator: etxansk@garbod20
Organization: Ericsson
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:25:55 GMT

martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU writes:

>It amazing how the device of comparison for the falcon has changed from
>the 4000 to the 1200....I recall when the 4000 was announced that the
>falcon was claimed to be a "far superior" machine. Now it seems that all the
>atari users here have given up that battle "surrender perhaps? :)" and
>have moved on to a machine that is more compariable.  All I really have
>to say in this arguement is that the Falcon is made by atari and that
>is enough to scare most people away...just going by ataris representation
>in the american marketplace...(it's the were here!! were gone.. method of
>computer sales)

 Unfortunately you may be right. Software companies "expect" Atari
to be a looser in the home market, and this attitude may or may not
kill the Falcon (and probably the company). But Atari Corp. was a very
aggressive company not too long ago, I suppose they've relied too much
on ST/STE sales. Apparently they haven't got enough money to market
and deliver the Falcon in time. 

 If the Falcon fails in Europe (and I wonder why they even bother to
talk about an introduction in North America) there's a big risk
Atari won't be the last company to vanish. If the US trend continues
in Europe with growing market shares for PC clowns and Sega/Nintendo,
it'll give Commodore a good run for their money. 

 Anders Skelander
From: uzun@crash.cts.com (Roger Uzun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: HAM-8 Pics Uploaded
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:26:35 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

I uploaded vallejo2.lha which contains 4 Boris Vallejo pics
in HAM-8 mode, for use with 800X600Xham8 and 640X480Xham8 screens.
They are at:
amiga.archive.umich.edu in /incoming
and at
hubcap.clemson.edu in /pub/amiga/incoming/graphics

-Roger
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bix: ruzun
NET: uzun@crash.cts.com
From: lurker@cs.umass.edu (Laurence L. Lurker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Calling all lurkers!
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:45:22 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@cs.umass.edu (Larry's Psychiatrist)
Organization: Lurkaholics Anonymous


Skip Sauls writes:
>It has come to my attention that there are several persons who are reading
>this group on a regular basis, but who are not posting.  Several of these
>folks have sent me email regarding one subject or another, but most have
>never posted to .advocacy.  Why not?

	Drat!!  You CAUGHT me!!  And here I was, quietly lurking away,
minding my own business, playing BLAZEMONGER, never getting in trouble...
and YOU had to give away the secret!

	It's OVER now... all those years of happiness <sniff, sob>.  How I
loved to lurk.  Skip says it's now time to become a contributing member of
the warm, friendly advocacy community, but I don't think I can handle that.
So it looks like I'm going to end it all right now.  I'm going to plug my
tongue into the serial port while my Amiga is powered on.  Goodbye, cruel
world........


			<ZZZZzzzzzZZzZzzZZAAPPPPPPPPP!!!!!>

			<time passes...>

	Hey!  I'm still alive!  And I TOASTED my freakin' CIA chips!!
Oh, that Commodore never does ANYTHING right.  Grumble.

. o
 .
-=-  Larry Lurker, Class of '04      lurker@cs.umass.edu
"Sex is a form of death, and vice-versa."  - Spiro Agnew
From: ralph@bugend.edvina.se (Staffan Vilcans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an I
Date: 11 Nov 92 00:10:14 GMT
Organization: Bugend BBS

etxpihl@eua.ericsson.se (Tomas Pihl) writes:

> Here in Sweden some of the local TV-stations have discovered Amiga
> as an cheap alternative to $100.000 PaintBox'es for making animations and
> graphics.

Actually it's not only "some of the local". It's used by SVT you know, 
and they're nation wide.


---
"Piracy is theft." / FAST
"Property is theft." / Pierre Proudhon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: stud16@cc4.kuleuven.ac.be (Kurt Haenen)
Distribution: world
Date: Thursday, 5 Nov 1992 15:08:47 +01
Organization: K.U.Leuven - Academic Computing Center
Subject: Re: Word Perfect 5.1 for the new Amigas

In article <68891@CUP.PORTAL.COM>, TomK@cup.portal.com writes:
> >   Look  at Final Copy.  Sure it does have pretty printing engine, but as a
> >word  processor,  its sucks.  But still, the company sells, and that's what
> >counts.   Maybe,  in  a  long long run, they will be able to come up with a
> >better software, but right now, why bother?  It sells!
>
> Exactly! You will find people who will tell you with a straight face
> that ProWrite is the functional equivalent of Word For Windows or
> Ami Pro. So if the market doesn't demand it, why bother?
>
> TomK@cup.portal.com
> Tom Krotchko

I've got only one word for you guys (and it isn't Word Pervert !!!) :


                     ######
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                       ## ##     ##
                       ## ####  # ##
                          ##   ##  ##
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Gimme CygnusEd Pro (or even better : EMACS/EPOCH) and TeX/LaTeX and try
matching that with Word Perfect.  Ok, it isn't as easy to use as the Pervert
thing, but it's got a lot more power.  By the way : I still think F3 shouldn't
be used as the help key !!!

+----------------+-------------------+------------------------------------+
|/////\\_____\\\\|                   |                                    |
|//// /_____ \\\\|  Kurt Haenen      |  Tjee, with this new cruncher,     |
|/// /\____//\\\\|  Homsemstraat 53  |  I can put two times as many disks |
|\\\/\ \   / / \\|  3891 Borlo       |  in one box than I used to ...     |
|\\\/\\ \ / /\/\\|___________________|____________________________________|
|\\\/\\\/_\/\/ //|                                       |                |
| Kurt \/_\ / ///|  EMAIL : STUD16 @ CC4.KULEUVEN.AC.BE  | 2B || !2B T^ = |
| Haenen  \\\/// |          FHGAA99@ CC1.KULEUVEN.AC.BE  | THE QUESTION ! |
+----------------+---------------------------------------+----------------+
From: stevew@convx1.dseg.ti.com (Steve Wootton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Word Perfect 5.1 for the new Amigas
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:55:48 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc

In article <1992Nov12.124844@cc4.kuleuven.ac.be> stud16@cc4.kuleuven.ac.be (Kurt Haenen) writes:
>Anyone wanting to do something productive needs
>TeX.  Why ?  Well, you gave the reason yourself : TeX exists on almost
>any system.  I myself create the document on my Amiga, preview it there
>and then I go out and print it using the university's mainframe and
>laser-printer.  Try doing that with Word for Windows.

You've got a point: running Word for Windows on your Amiga would probably
be a nifty trick.

As for productivity, I find that when I have to work with other people
(essentially always), it helps if we use compatible tools.  In the States,
that means WordPerfect, not TeX.

Just for fun, pick up a metropolitan newspaper and flip to the 
clerical/secretarial classified ads.  Go through and circle every ad 
that requires WordPerfect experience.  Then make another pass and circle
every ad that mentions either the Amiga or TeX.  Amazing, isn't it?
WordPerfect is everywhere, taught in secretarial schools, business 
colleges, technical institutes, junior colleges, and university computer 
literacy classes.

It may not be *great*, but it is pervasive.  I can compose a document with
xwp 5.1 on my workstation, and hand it off without a second thought to my 
secretary and coworkers who run wp 5.1 on their MS-DOS and MS-Windows boxes.
The equation editor is very good, and I don't even have to learn greek to use
it.  If I need to build a huge document, I can snarf the file into
Interleaf, again without having to worry about my formatting.

>Another thing : on most systems, there is a public domain TeX, so it 
>doesn't cost me anything.

That's nice.  I prefer professionally-supported software.  Your choice, 
but not much of an argument against WordPerfect.  As a matter of fact, on 
most systems, there's WordPerfect, too.  We've got WordPerfect on our 
workstations, our PCs, and our Vaxen.  Who needs TeX, anyway?

-- 
Steve Wootton  --  stevew@mksol.dseg.ti.com
Hey, don't blame TI... they haven't told me what to say.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Re: Games and the C64
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:04:57 GMT

In article <HNRZTB1w165w@bugend.edvina.se> ralph@bugend.edvina.se (Staffan Vilcans) writes:
>tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:
>
>> These were terrific games from Muse. It just shows you how little
>> Wolfenstein 3D scores in the originality department. There was in fact an
>> Amiga game called "Into the Eagles' Nest" which was quite similar to these.
>> Nicely done, but none of the 'Achtung!' speech synthesis :).
>
>Yes, I played that one, on the Spectrum mostly.
>But I think it reminds more of Gauntlet...

Exactly.  I have played it too.

The whole point, almost, to Wol3D is the GREAT 3D POV.

Heck, I'd imagine they are working on many different scenerios using
that graphics routine right now..

I think a futuristic one woould be cool....with laser that beam out into
the distance.  Ohh! What would be REALLY cool is IF you could 'throw'
grenades and see them fly. And explode.

OhH! And them we could network it...whheeeeee! :-)
-- 
Dan Stephenson                                                 das9674@usl.edu  
"There once was a Lady from Hyde/who ate some bad apples and died/but while we
lamented/the apples fermented/making cider inside her inside!" 
                        -Member of the Court, Texas Renaissance Festival  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
Subject: Re: The Amiga-1200 is not for me...
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 11:52:28 GMT

In article <1dau13INN77s@agate.berkeley.edu>, kevinm@ocf.berkeley.edu (Kevin Miller) writes:
 > In article <1992Nov5.131851.90515@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au> bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
 > >birdie told me that C= would have a range of 4 Amigas. Well, we now
 > >have 4 Amigas, but I expect the 3000 to be replaced by an AGA machine.

Dammit, I missed this one first time round too...  Anyone else having problems
with xrn?  Anyway, I thought that the A4000 was the replacement to the A3000 - if
not, can anyone give a reson why?

-Eyvind

-- 
     //|                             | DISCLAIMER: I don't HAVE opinions.
    // |                             | I just repeat what everyone else says!
\\ //--|miga: There can be only one. |
 \X/   |         eyvind@lise.unit.no | Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!  Ackpth!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: hachec@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Hache Christina)
Subject: Word Processors for Amiga & IBM.
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Distribution: World
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:53:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct22.215603.4794@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:

>>Jerry, this is the second article where you refer to the AMIGA as not
>>having a half decent Word Processor, I don't know, If I had the choice
>>between Word IM-Perfect (what a joke) or even MS word I'd choose Excellence
>>3.0 or Pro-Write or Final Copy over them, I think it's the IBM which lacks
>>a half decent word Processor...my god, Word Perfect doesn't even support
>>WYSIWYG....what a joke!!
>
>Sigh, MUST you selectively choose which PC word processors you must bash?

Where do you see him selectively choosing a word processor above?  He did
mention two of the leading MS-DOS/Windows wordprocessors.

>NOOOOoooOOOOO!  You'd better not compare Ami Pro 3.0 or Word for Windows 2.0
>to an Amiga word processor - then you'd have _nothing_ to post about.

Have you actually used FinalCopy II?  I would choose that over WP any day.
I've also used Word for Windows at work and I can't say it is any more
superior to FinalCopy.  It sure as hell doesn't have the flexiability of
FinalCopy's ARexx interface.

FinalCopy II is a very nice, complete, product..

Wizard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: seifert@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael S. Seifert)
Subject: Re: NO MORE *&#*$(^*& FEMALE BIMBO ADS!!!!!!!!
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 05:40:38 GMT

In article <Paula_Lieberman.0716@amicol.UUCP> Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman) writes:
>more mike seifert manure: Me,  LIBERAL!?? Wow, are you ever out of it!  As
>for "ever been in a pool hall" -- have YOU ever been in a military bar,
>dicing for drinks?  I rather suspect you haven't..... as for "pool halls"
>-- you mean like the one in southeastern Massachusetts that a woman was
>raped in for no reason other than she went inside?!  
>
>As for what this has to do with Amigas -- how would YOU like to see Amiga
>ads with naked Castro Street clones draped all over the machines.  "Hi,
>there, I'm ready Eddy, your plug-in accessory!  And I'll even suck for you,
>so that the machine doesn't have to!"  Since you want female bimboes, how
>about a few MALE ones?!
>

Hey, paula, if youre not liberal, Ill add you to my ever expanding list
of true conservative women (oo, Im sweating).  Right now it reads:
1) Maggie thatcher (I love her, and I would vote for her, but I still
have my suspicions about her womanhood...)
2) Jeannie Kirkpatrick  (mmmmmm....)
3) Phyllis baby (what a perfect woman)
4) my mother (shed kick my ass if she knew I was talking sexist...)

Ive been in a military bar at Wright Patt a few times, but the military
isnt the place to look for your average bimbo, so.....

And if youre dicing for drinks at a military bar, why do you get upset 
when dozens of men hit on you...  Its only natural....

Youve stumped me on the castro street stuff...  but I see nothing wrong
with you wanting male bimbos and me wanting female ones.  Instant 
heterosexual gratification is ok in my book....


mike seifert, spewer
From: marks@castle.ed.ac.uk (Mark Steyn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Calling all lurkers!
Date: 11 Nov 92 08:55:58 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

Ok, I promise to post more often as of today. :-)

	Mark

-- 
? Look within the Hearts of mortal men and see, ? Mark Steyn :          ?
? The Hopes, Dreams and Wishes of a world,      ? marks@castle.ed.ac.uk ?
? Guarded under Lock and Key.                   ? mpjs@dcs.ed.ac.uk     ?