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From: steve.connelly@synapse.org (Steve Connelly) 
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: 'phobe parent, help!!
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:41:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SYNAPSE BBS - GATINEAU, QUEBEC - 819-561-4321
Reply-To: steve.connelly@synapse.org (Steve Connelly) 

AC>I am a first-year college student about to return home for the winter. I am a
AC>straight female; my best friend (who is part of the story) is a gay man. Last
AC>summer I made the dreadful mistake of telling my parents about my friend,
AC>whose name is Michael. Okay, I should be shot for that but it is in the past
AC>and I can't do anything about it.

Geeze...the only thing I can think of to tell you is to let your 
parents know (WHEN they ask about Micheal) that it is not a topic
for disscussion.  They can't follow you everywhere!!
I applaud your strength in staying friends with the guy despite
your intolerant parents.  You are proof that homophobia does
not have to go on another generation.
BTW:  I am also gay.  When people get to know ABOUT us and how
we live they realize that we are not much different from them
(straights).  Sometimes I wish my live were as wild and bohemian
as homophobes belive......
:)
here's my first E-mail hug (hope I do it right!) ...HUG!
---
 . DeLuxe. 1.21 #777sa . Go ahead and do it, you can always apologise later
                                                                                          
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: latarra@camelot.bradley.edu (Lisa Ehren)
Subject: Re: Hetero Jealousy Re: a question
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:19:16 GMT

>In article <11DEC199217474702@zeus.tamu.edu> Zekeman@do.not.hate.me.because.you.know.I.am.right.PRO.HETERO.edu writes:
>>I would like to see your wierdo homosexual perverted silly lifestyle do only
>>one thing that heterosexuals are capable of;
>>I would like to see you sodomize you butt-buddy and have children!

hey, if you can sodomize your girlfriend <wife, significant other, sister,
unwilling victim> and have it produce children, I'll
pay you ten buck *and* guarentee you a place in history.

Unless I'm mistaken, and there is a case where you can impregnate a girl by
giving it to her up the ass...

anyone know of anything like that?

Lisa
--
He got up from the couch and stared out the window at a far-off place
inside himself that she couldn't see.

Fuzzies for anyone who wants them - New shipments every Thursday.
From: aa704@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jennifer Engel)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: F5-E subscriptions ??
Date: 13 Dec 1992 16:34:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa704@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jennifer Engel)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


A zine is a magazine that is often a just a collection of the editors
ideas. THey are howeve,r much more elaborate and are similar to magazines
in layout and content but differ in ideal and concept. 

zines often carry reviews of other zines and records, and reviews contain a
contact address, price, size, and a breif discription with commentary. this
means that editors give there opinion sof other
publications, in other words. this is of course, a good way to find out
about zines and where to get them.

Factsheet five is a zine that is a collection of reviews. But it is the
most (was the most?) comprehensive collection anywhere and a mamoth
project. (you have no idea how many zines are out there). THe paper version
fo this is now defunct, but Jerod Pore is running an electronic version of
it. FOr in for on that, Check out alt.zines under theheader F5-E.

there is a comprehensive listing of queer /queer related zines that can be
obtained from Larry-bob who edits the zine Holy Titclamps for 2 stamps:
It is called Queer Zine Explosion.

Larry-bob / Box 591275 / SF CA 94159-1275

I edit a queer zine myself called FUcktooth, and you can email me for info
on that.
-- 
From THE JAZZ BOOK: FROM RAGTIME TO FUSION AND BEYOND
"There is something in music which is more than melody
 and more than harmony: music."
				Guisseppe Verdi
From: dave@gergo.tamu.edu (Dave Martin)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: How do you like my *postscript*?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 07:26 CST
Organization: Geochemical & Environmental Research Group, Texas A&M University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: gergo.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <15DEC199206405079@zeus.tamu.edu>, Zeke@Gays.should.be.in.the.military.so.they.can.be.casualties.of.war writes...
}---------------------------------------------------------------
}|The Zekester, PRO HETERO and proud of it!!                   |
}|       **********         They call me homophobic,           |
}|    ***          ***      They call me bigotted,             |
}|  **<-------------****    They call me close-minded,         |
}| **  \          **** **   They call me intolerant,           |
}|**    \      ****/    **  They blame me for their problems,  |
}|**     \  ****  /     **  They cannot tolerate me,           |
}|**     ****    /      **  They cannot respect me,            |
}| ** **** \    /      **   They do not know me,               |
}|  ****    \  /      **         yet they judge me.            |
}|    ***    \/   ***                                          |
}|       **********         They must be heterophobes!!        |
}---------------------------------------------------------------

Gee, makes me proud to be at A&M with a jerk like this.
Sorry Zeke, but you are deluded. Gays are not heterophobes simply
because they don't like *YOU*. And you can't really expect any gay
person to have respect for you, not with your exceedingly anti-gay
attitude, nor should you expect anyone to tolerate your presence.
You are judged by what you broadcast on the net -- post hateful drivel
and you will be judged by that. From the sound of it, you have been
judged as "homophobic", "bigotted", "closed-minded", and "intolerant"
based on your postings. Sounds about right to me.
Finally, the social structure is more to blame than you for the problems
of not only gays but of all minorities, since the system does not do
much to discourage such medieval exclusionary thinking. The same type
of thing is behind the current problems in Germany -- that it is OK
to violently hate those that are different.
Well, as long as Zeke is at A&M I'll know the University is nowhere
near the "world class" status it likes to believe it holds.

 - Dave Martin - Geochemical & Environmental Research Group, Texas A&M - 
 - DAVE@GERGA.TAMU.EDU - DBM@AOL.COM -- My views, my life, my right... -
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: gerike@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Roman Gerike)
Subject: Re: marriage
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:27:28 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: FB20 (PUe) Informatik TH-Darmstadt

Regarding marriage: In Germany, neither of the two dominating churches 
will allow services on marriages of two members of the same sex. The
government doesn't allow it either, although in Berlin and in another
"Land" there are discussions and government draft papers about the issue.

Mid August, we had a run of some hundred homosexual couples on registry
offices all over Germany organized by SVD and BVH, the nationwide homo-
organizations. This stirred up some publicity.

The protestant church has some official groups called "Homosexuelle und
Kirche" (HuK), the catholic church does not allow those, so they have
inofficial ones (a few).

It seems there's a way to homosexual marriage in Germany, but a lot of
hurdles have to be passed, still.

- Roman
From: Zeke@Gays.should.be.in.the.military.so.they.can.be.casualties.of.war
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: Re: How do you like my *postscript*?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 13:02 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rigel.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

>Gee, will your mommy post it on the refrigerator?  

Maybe she will, but I am sure that both of your daddies could
paste it on your frig. with some of their butt-paste.




---------------------------------------------------------------
|The Zekester, PRO HETERO and proud of it!!                   |
|       **********         They call me homophobic,           |
|    ***          ***      They call me bigotted,             |
|  **<-------------****    They call me close-minded,         |
| **  \          **** **   They call me intolerant,           |
|**    \      ****/    **  They blame me for their problems,  |
|**     \  ****  /     **  They cannot tolerate me,           |
|**     ****    /      **  They cannot respect me,            |
| ** **** \    /      **   They do not know me,               |
|  ****    \  /      **         yet they judge me.            |
|    ***    \/   ***                                          |
|       **********         They must be heterophobes!!        |
---------------------------------------------------------------
From: aaronm@ccmail.orst.edu (Mithran Aaron)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: does anyone know...
Date: 12 Dec 1992 19:03:16 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University Libraries
NNTP-Posting-Host: standdx26.kerr.orst.edu

If anyone out there knows a person by the name of Creston Rice, could you 
tell him that I would really like to get in touch with him.  The last I 
heard, he was in New York.....
From: aa704@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jennifer Engel)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: Me bashing.
Date: 13 Dec 1992 16:17:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa704@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jennifer Engel)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


I think Ethan should stay. This is just my opinion of course, but here is
the idea: You want Heterosexuals to accept you but you cannot accept one
among you. I have found this very often. In a school situation that Ethan
deals with, he walks into a classroom and everyone without thinkin g about
it assumes that he is straight. But if he was like me and attends gay
functions (i am also close to his age) anyone at these gay functions would
assume that he is gay. Why?

I don't think it should matter. if someon has something to contribute, they
should contribute. Any information and opinion is valuable no matter howyou
disagree with it.

-- 
From THE JAZZ BOOK: FROM RAGTIME TO FUSION AND BEYOND
"There is something in music which is more than melody
 and more than harmony: music."
				Guisseppe Verdi
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: eknipp@lobo.rmhs.colorado.edu (Ethan R Knipp)
Subject: Me bashing.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:29:50 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain High School, Fort Collins, CO

Hi.  I've been posting here now and then, as many of you know.  Recently, in 
my email, I recieved a rather unnerving letter from Paul Crowley.  In this 
letter, he accused me of being 'shit-scared' of being called a homosexual, 
because on my sig file, I had a line that said 'STRAIT BUT NOT NARROW.'
        Surprisingly enough, this bothered me.  I am a staunch defender of 
homosexual's rights.  Unfortunately, I also live in Colorado.  Seeing as I'm 
underage, I had no choice in the matter, but C'est la vie.   However, this is 
the second time that *homosexuals* have essentially made it clear that my 
views and opinions were not wanted.  In the previous case, the person involved 
apoligized, and tat was the end.
        I have taken all refrences to homosexuals out of my .sig file, and if 
the homosexuals on this newsgroup wish, I will leave the newsgroup too.
        I am sick of getting cussed at or accused by the people I have tried 
for the past year or so to staunchly protect and defend. (I know that doesn't
sound like much, but hey, I'm only 16.)
        So if you want me off, email me.  If you want me to stay, email me.
        Thanks.

-- 
Ethan Knipp                   |        ***PANIC NOW-AVOID THE RUSH***
The Unbeliever                |   "It's the end of the world as we know it/
eknipp@lobo.rmhs.colorado.edu |    and I feel fine"-R.E.M.
****************Whatever I say, I say.  Deal with it.**********************
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: jam8j@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (James A. Murray)
Subject: Re: Me bashing.
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 05:03:07 GMT

Who's outing Ethan? A good question. No one that I know of.

--
James A. Murray                    |  Certe, Toto, sentio nos in
University of Virginia             |  Kansate non iam adesse. 
jam8j@galen.med.Virginia.edu       |    		-Dorothea
Compuserve: 71022,1000             |  
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: ric@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Graffiti 404-972-4999)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual BBS in Midwest
Date: 19 Dec 1992 03:06:05 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu

...and if you are interested in the Atlanta, Georgia area, give
Graffiti a ring at 404-972-4999. Soon to go from 2 lines to 6,
and with a great collection of GIF files and more. Expansion in
progress, but big discounts to join while we grow!

-- 
 -Ric     __                       __                                 __
          \/   ric@gnu.ai.mit.edu  \/   Graffiti BBS  404 972-4999    \/
                 GEnie: GRAFFITI      PO Box 3176, Lithonia GA 30058
From: Your Name Here <NetID@cornell.edu>
Subject: anyone read "Max Desir"?
X-Xxdate: Sat, 12 Dec 92 01: 11:56 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: tk14@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 01:08:17 GMT
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:31:00 EST
From: <JBF101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: How do you like my *postscript*?
Distribution: world
 <1992Dec15.160421.9850@mail.cornell.edu> <15DEC199213024820@rigel.tamu.edu>

Zeke,

Have you ever heard of latent homosexuality?  One of its nastiest manifes-
tations is violent anti-gay hatred.

Doug Hayes @ Penn State

PS: 'Bigoted' is spelled with only one 't'.
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: Your Name Here <NetID@cornell.edu>
Subject: anyone read "Max Desir"?
X-Xxdate: Sat, 12 Dec 92 01: 07:40 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: tk14@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 01:04:19 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Zekester Revealed
From: sbrack@jupiter (Steve Brack)
Date: 19 Dec 92 15:41:52 EST
Reply-To: sbrack@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu 
Distribution: world  
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Just so those that are interested will know who the "Zekester" is, 
I've culled this from one of his recent postings.  Since he wants
to hear your opinions on his .signature, I suggest you email them to
him, rather than taking up newsgroup space with it.

===== BEGIN FORWARDED ARTICLE ===== 
Relay-Version: VMS News - V6.1B5 17/9/92 VAX/VMS V5.5-1; site uoft02.ut
oledo.edu
edu!tamsun.tamu.edu!zeus.tamu.edu!olw7845
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: How do you like my *postscript*?
From: Zeke@Gays.should.be.in.the.military.so.they.can.be.casualties.of.war
Date: 15 Dec 1992 06:40 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

---------------------------------------------------------------
|The Zekester, PRO HETERO and proud of it!!                   |
|       **********         They call me homophobic,           |
|    ***          ***      They call me bigotted,             |
|  **<-------------****    They call me close-minded,         |
| **  \          **** **   They call me intolerant,           |
|**    \      ****/    **  They blame me for their problems,  |
|**     \  ****  /     **  They cannot tolerate me,           |
|**     ****    /      **  They cannot respect me,            |
| ** **** \    /      **   They do not know me,               |
|  ****    \  /      **         yet they judge me.            |
|    ***    \/   ***                                          |
|       **********         They must be heterophobes!!        |
---------------------------------------------------------------

===== END FORWARDED ARTICLE =====

	His email address can be found in the "Sender:" line of his article's
	header.  

--
Steven S. Brack        |"But the greatest of|   sbrack@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu
2021 Roanwood Drive    | these is love."    |  STU0061@uoft01.BITNET 
Toledo, OH  43613-1605 \____________________/    brack@uoftcse.cse.utoledo.edu 
+1 419 GR4 1010        |  MY OWN  OPINIONS  |   sbrack@maine.cse.utoledo.edu 
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: tmike@cmptrc.lonestar.org (T. Mike Howeth)
Subject: Re: a question
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:34:55 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <92344.141740MCS128@psuvm.psu.edu> <MCS128@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
|i write this in hope that somebody can help my confusion.

fat chance

|                                                  let's see...sexual preference
|. hmmm....doesn't sound like a race to me; nor does it sound like a religion. w
|ell if it isn't a race, creed, war vet, sex(male/female), etc. what the hell co
|uld it be? well it sure as hell ISN'T a reason to give a bunch of people who fe
|el it's perfectly normal to have sex with members of the same sex special right
|s. what you do in your privacy is, unfortunately, your own business. i don't se
|e any reason why this should give you ANY special rights of ANY kind.

the point is, moron, that it is not a reason to DENY human rights to persons

| and anyone who crys out for a boycott of colorado is doing nothing more than what numero
|us political figures are doing, infringing on freedom of speech, vote, etc. you
| people who support this boycott are essentially saying that people in that sta
|te can vote whatever they want; but,if the vote is unfavorable then the boycott
| will stay in place. sounds to me like this would be infringement on the freedo
|m to speech.

HUH??  "Freedom to speech"???   You MUST be kidding.

|why is there so much hatred of homosexuals? perhaps it is do to th
|e fact that these people never miss an opportunity to tell somebody that they a
|re gay. 

PUH-LEEZE!  NOBODY is more vocal in expressing their preference than breeders.
You people can't keep your hands off each other in public!  Take that kind of 
behavior INSIDE.

|we don't care! try keeping your private life private and you may be sur
|prised at how much less animosity there is.

1) There is far less animosity in the general public than you think.  Perhaps 
you are referring to where YOU live, (which trailer park was it again?). 
2) If you don't care, then stop trying to limit my freedoms.  After all, in
the long run, it's not going to work anyway.  Ballot or Bullet, your kind is
becoming scarce.

Fuck off, turdbrain.

Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: tmo@harry.engin.umich.edu (Tanya M Ollick)
Subject: Re: Me bashing.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 12:50:34 EST
Organization: University of Michigan (CAEN)
Originator: tmo@harry.engin.umich.edu


Ethan, please stay. It's commendable that you are trying to be aware and
supportive of the issues. I noticed your sig and liked the message, 
especially since it announced your support regardless of what newsgroup
you posted to.

I'm confused why the homosexual community gets so annoyed when people post
things like "I'm straight, but I support you." First, many people assume
that all readers here are gay (see the recent "why do you bother reading
this if you aren't gay" thread), and what's wrong with announcing your orientation as a clarifier? Second, most of these "I'm straight" comments
come from people trying to shut up a 'phobe, pointing out that there are het
supporters out there. Whether it's right or wrong, it's an attempt to combat
bigotry. Third, if it is in fact someone who is "afraid to face up to his/her
homosexual feelings," then so be it. If that is the case, maybe reading this
group might help clarify things. It's certainly a lot better than closing
things up tight - Outsiders (and New Members) not Welcome.

And, no, I'm not homosexual, I'm bisexual. I'm not in denial, I'm not
undecided, I'm not sex-crazed. I hope I'm welcome here, too.

TMO
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Flames/answers/more questions always welcome
Disclaimer: I don't speak for CAEN, it doesn't speak for me
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: jbibb@eng.auburn.edu (John S. Bibb)
Subject: Re: How do you like my *postscript*?
Reply-To: jbibb@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:40:52 GMT

In article 15DEC199206405079@zeus.tamu.edu, Zeke@Gays.should.be.in.the.military.so.they.can.be.casualties.of.war () writes:
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> |The Zekester, PRO HETERO and proud of it!!                   |
> |       **********         They call me homophobic,           |
> |    ***          ***      They call me bigotted,             |
> |  **<-------------****    They call me close-minded,         |
> | **  \          **** **   They call me intolerant,           |
> |**    \      ****/    **  They blame me for their problems,  |
> |**     \  ****  /     **  They cannot tolerate me,           |
> |**     ****    /      **  They cannot respect me,            |
> | ** **** \    /      **   They do not know me,               |
> |  ****    \  /      **         yet they judge me.            |
> |    ***    \/   ***                                          |
> |       **********         They must be heterophobes!!        |
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 

I do not blame you....I blame your parents.
I do not judge you....I do not judge anyone (if I can help it)
I am not a heterophobe....After all, my parents are het.

J. PRO PEOPLE, PRO LIFE, PRO FAMILY, PRO FREEDOM, PRO CHOICE  Bibb


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