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From: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: Re: Carrying cases
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:16:52 GMT

In article <KIRAVUO.92Sep28142737@lesti.hut.fi> kiravuo@hila.hut.fi writes:
>In article <1992Sep23.210143.24486@schaefer.math.wisc.edu> junikka@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Jari Junikka) writes:
>>Is a carrying case worth the extra $50 many notebook
>>sellers are asking for it? Wouldn't a shoulder bag
>
>Depends on the model. My experiences with the Toshiba T1000LE and
>Toshiba's bag have been negative. Especially since that time the

I agree.  But for cold-cold michigan winters and the unexpected rains
I wouldn't use a case.  The zippers are unreliable, if you are a careless
person (i.e., you zip up the carrying case, without care).

Frankly, without the case, your computer will be slimmer and can be
slunk under you armpit, once in a while...

Do you recall how you handled your expensive audio-system when it was new,
and how do you handle it now ?  What about your car / pool table ?? (if you
are rich enough for that !!!).  Yes, a portable is expensive.  Just wait till
its a little older...  A portable gets outdated in 1 year.  So it makes no
sense to keep it in glass cupboards...


Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
From: bkelly@grumpy.helios.nd.edu (b kelly)
Subject: Question on Toshiba 1100 (xt)
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 06:01:30 GMT

 friend of mine was just given a Toshiba 1100 laptop with two floppy drives.
He would like to know whether it is possible to put in a hard drive without
spending too much money.  This is an XT machine. The floppy controller is
integrated in the motherboard and I don't see evidence of a harddrive
controller.  Would he have to replace the motherboard?
Thanks in advance for any help
Brendan
Brendan.R.Kelly.7@nd.edu
.
From: Jean_Lemire@mindlink.bc.ca (Jean Lemire)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: AST notebooks-new line
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:56:55 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

I heard that AST is coming out with a new line of notebook PCs sometime in
early October.  I have tried contacting them to get product information but to
no avail.  I have not seen any press releases either.  Does anyone out there
know anything about the new line's features?

Same question applies to new Toshiba line of notebooks.

In the market,

Jean Lemire
Asia Pacific management Cooperative Program
Vancouver, B.C.
GEnie: J.Lemire
Mindlink (Internet): Jean_Lemire@mindlink.bc.ca
From: mikebaz@nmt.edu (Michael Bazarewsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: 1400HD Memory/Hardware utilities
Summary: Tandy 1400HD 128K memory utility request
Keywords: tandy laptop hardware memory
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:40:52 GMT
Organization: New Mexico Institute of Mining & Technology
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Does anyone know of a way to get the extra 128K on the Tandy 1400 HD look like
extended or exapnded memory?  I have a utility right now to load TSRs up there
but I'd rather use the memory another way which would be more flexible.
 
Also, does anyone have any hardware for the "expansion port"?  Tandy never
made anything for that slot, and I do not have the expertise to comprehend
the hardware sections of the Service Manual.

Please respond by e-mail and if enough people request the information I'll
post it here.

Thanks.
Xref: sparky comp.sys.laptops:3710 comp.sys.palmtops:3052
From: laub@Software.Mitel.COM (Boniface Lau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: ZEOS Pocket PC: *MY* review/comments
Date: 26 Sep 92 02:34:49 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.
In-reply-to: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu's message of 25 Sep 92 16:12:15 GMT

>>>>> On 25 Sep 92 16:12:15 GMT, anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber) said:

Anthony> The Poqet PC is nearly exactly the same size as the Zeos
Anthony> machine, and it was introduced in 1989.  Even the keyboards
Anthony> of the two machines are very similar but not identical, the
Anthony> Zeos is practically a clone of the Poqet PC.  

I was told that Zeos has only 20 bytes of hardware stack. Thus, it
won't be able to run compression utility such as the Diet.

Because of the hardware stack limitation, it is a good idea to try out
programs that you intend to run on the machine before purchasing it.

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Mitel Corp., 350 Legget Drive, Kanata, Ontario, Canada K2K 1X3

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From: vulture@carrion.cc.ic.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: Installing a math-coprozessor (Y/N)?
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:32:36 GMT
Reply-To: cmaae47@cc.ic.ac.uk
Organization: Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine

In article <1992Oct4.175708.192@csghsg5a.bitnet>, 89612220s@csghsg5a.bitnet writes:
- I'm interrested in installing a math coprocessor in my Commodore C386SX-LT
- Notebook (16 Mhz 80386SX).
- 
- Can anyone who has specific/general experience with this type of operation
- please give me some Hihnts?
-
I put an IIT one into mine - no problem, just make sure you get the 
orientation right, 4 ways are possible and only one correct.
- 
- I'm puzzled by several questions:
- - how much will a math coprozessor influence battery-life? I understand those
- processors are very powerhungry?

I did not notice higher consumption. I also upgraded to 5 Mbyte at the time.

- - I've heard that there is a special 'XL' (low power consumption) version of
- the 80287. Is there also one of the 80386SX?

The IIT claims to be low power.

- - How much advantaga does Windows 3.1 take of the presence of such a processor?
- (I've heard numbers from 80% to 150%) Please note I mean Windows by itself.
- It's clear that applications like Excel oder Winword look for an coprozessor
- automatically and use it if present

I don't run windows, but fractint gets a lot zippier.

I did a tests with a very small floating point loop. It got about 50 kflops
as opposed to 12.5 kiloflop without the coprocessor. The same .exe files manage
103 kiloflops on a 20 MHz 80386/7 DX combination, and 14 kflops on a 16 MHz 386DX,
60 and 680 kflops on 33 MHz 486 (without and with using '87 functionality).
Thus even such a tiny benchmark is limited by processor/memory bandwitdh 
rather than processor speed. This, of course, depends on the compiler, 
and how it organizes code.

                                           Thomas
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From: ar017@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Nolan Whitaker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: WANTED: MAC Powerbook 100/140/145
Date: 5 Oct 1992 15:10:20 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


The titlt says it all: I'm looking to buy a used Mac Powerbook
(model 100/140/ or 145).  Let me know what you've got and how much
you want..

Nolan 
uk02728@ukpr.uky.edu
From: uda@netg.ksp.fujixerox.co.jp (Toyokazu Uda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: Portable sound
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:29:47 GMT
	<BvEKEo.CD2@andy.bgsu.edu> <1992Sep30.192940.28385@dragon.acadiau.ca>
	<1adjqjINNq1n@uwm.edu>
Organization: Fuji Xerox Co. Ltd., Tokyo, Japan
In-reply-to: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu's message of 1 Oct 92 01:21:23 GMT


In article <1adjqjINNq1n@uwm.edu> anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
(Anthony J Stieber) writes:

   Microkey/AudioPort (note this appears quite different
from the Media Vision device)

	   12 bit audio sampler/player 4-44.1kHz
	   MS-Windows, MS-MPC, Soundblaster compatible
	   Video Associates Labs
	   4926 Spicewood Springs Road
	   Austin TX 78759
	   800-331-0547
	   512-346-5781
	   512-346-9407 fax

Thank you, 

I heard that the AudioPort does not work without Windows
3.1.  Is it true?  Is there Adlib or SoundBlaster compatible
TSR for non Windows ?
Nobody knows, I must make a overseas call.....
--
Toyokazu Uda
From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: Powerbook 100 vs Powerbook 145
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:35:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: bradley.1992Sep30.223546.5145
Organization: Bradley University

<AUWAC@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:

>As far as wether a 145 is a better value than a 100, that depends on what you
>want it for.  I had a PB100 for 5 months, and it was great, except that I
>wanted to use it for MIDI.  

Huh?!?  So why did you get rid of it?  My 100 works flawlessly with
EZVision and Mastertrax Pro, and the Rothwell-Metlay tag team in
rec.music.synth have been torture-testing a 100 for a month now with not so
much as a hiccup.  I'm curious as to why you canned the 100, because it's
the 140, 145, and 170 that has MIDI problems, not the 100.

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From: d9mikael@dtek.chalmers.se (Mikael Wahlgren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: IBM L40SX
Date: 27 Sep 92 02:19:24 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

joker@diku.dk (Morten Christian Holmgreen) writes:

>>My biggest complaint, and this is probably my fault for not pursuing
>>this with IBM or on the net, is that the OS/2 power saver device driver
>>supplied with the L40sx doesn't work with OS/2 2.0; my machine locks up
>>solid.  (Anyone got a fix for this?)

>I've just updated my diagnostics disk for the L40 and hey guess what???
>Yeah - right you are. The two files needed for this fix is included on the
>diags 1.02 disk... Drop me a line if you need it.

Actually, the 1.02 diagnostics disk didn't work that well with OS/2 2.0.
But I have the 1.03 version of diagnostics, which works very well with
OS/2 2.0 and power management utilities.

Mikael Wahlgren
From: PETER@falcon.iupui.EDU (Peter Adams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
Subject: RE:  Zenith User's Group Bulletin Board
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:49:11 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet

>From: Ron McCarty <RON@psuvm.psu.edu>
>
>The bbs has moved to Illinois and teh new number is 708-808-2264.
>
>I think if you were a member before, all you need to do is dial
>this number instead of the old one. In fact, they just started a
>new sale today with some pretty good bargains from what I can see.
>Ron McCarty

I have been a ZUG member for quite some time now.  Yes, you are correct,
they did move the board to Illinois.  However, NONE of the staff went 
with the board.  If you follow the tone of the messages, you will find
agreement with my position that COM1 no longer provides the level
of service to Zenith user's that it used to.  You will not receive any
where near the level of technical help that you would expect.  

You will find that a core group of the original support staff let go
by ZDS now operates a board called T.E.C.H. at (219) 654-3210.  Not
that I am endorsing this board, but those operating it do have the ability
to answer your questions.  

Ron - I'd disagree that COM1 offers "pretty good bargains".  Many, many
messages have been sent out to the effect that their prices are either
at educational discount, or very near what the new ZDS Direct Catalog
prices are.  I believe that most of us are holding out - you CAN buy
a better machine for a better price from DELL or COMPAQ.  And most 
importantly, get a warranty.  Yes, some prices are pretty good - if it 
were new equipment.  But, for the most part, it's used.  

However, that's just my humble opinion.  Mr. Petsori (ZDS president)
has ignored my thoughts, fell free to do the same. 

	-Peter
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From: jfox@vms.macc.wisc.edu
Subject: z 386sx upgrade
Organization:  University of Wisconsin 
Distribution:  na
Date:  5 OCT 92 11:31:09    

I'd appreciate any info on upgrading a z386sx (one of those small-case
ones (the first 386sx Zenith produced) to a 33MHz 486 (or even 386).
The keyboard controller has gone on one of these, and I have about 10 more 2.5 
year old machines that will probably also start breaking down. If I'm going to 
replace the motherboard, I at least want something up-to-date; otherwise
I'll sell these computers for parts. Our techs tell me that nonstandard 
connectors and power supply mean that standard motherboards won't work, 
and they don't know about a 486 motherboard from Zenith for this case.
 Thanks for any info.
bitnet:   jfox@wiscmacc
internet: jfox@macc.wisc.edu
From: jackson@acf3.nyu.edu (Robert Max Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
Subject: Zenith Users Group Bulletin Board
Summary: Is the bulletin board gone?
Keywords: Bulletin Board
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:49:25 GMT
Organization: New York University


	A while ago the Bulletin Board of the Zenith Users' Group 
quit answering.  I have been unable to get through to any of the voice 
numbers of the ZUG.  I know that they killed the magazine (REMARK),
but I had not noticed any information about killing off the bulletin
board as well.

	Does anyone in this group know what is going on?

	
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
From: hcolijn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Hendrik O Colijn)
Subject: Z386/16 and IDE woes
Summary: new IDE drive messes up video display
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 01:35:01 GMT

The old 40Mb MFM drive in my Z386/16 has just about given up the 
ghost.  So, I purchased a 120Mb Conner CP30104 IDE drive and IDE 
controller as a replacement.  After upgrading my BIOS from 2.1 to 
3.5, I installed everything.  I defined the drive as type 61 (as 
mentioned earlier in this group), FDISKed, and FORMATted the 
drive.  All this works fine. I can now boot from the new hard 
drive, etc.  

The strange thing is that the video is now messed up.  Characters 
are being dropped from the display.  If I type a row of charac-
ters, they look fine till I hit enter (or escape), the screen 
scrolls and the 25th and 41st characters vanish (along with a few 
other characters elsewhere on the screen).  I eventually wind up 
with several completely blank columns on the screen.  This is 
especially obvious when doing a directory.  Replacing the IDE 
controller with the old MFM controller and drive cures the video 
problem.  

Details 
Zenith 386/16 (vintage 1988, model ZBF-3339-EK)
CompuAdd 8 bit VGA controller with a Paradise chip (PVGA1A).  
ZDS BIOS 3.5 (p/n 444-549-11) 
     disk type 61       
     speed switch = fast (slow & smart show no difference)      
     video display = enhanced graphics (40x25 and 80x25 show
                no difference)  
memory = 2x Z-505 (1MB) cards
Identity IDE-220 IDE controller
new drive = Connor CP-30104 120Mb 
old drive = CDC (Imprimis) 94025-51 40Mb MFM (type 43)

I am guessing that there is some sort of memory conflict between 
the VGA card and the IDE BIOS.  Can anyone suggest what the cause 
of the problem might be and what can be done to cure it?

One last question, The sales people at the store where I bought 
the disk drive gave me the following specs on the drive.
size = 120Mb    cylinders = 1011
heads = 9       sectors = 26
precomp = 0     landing zone = 1011

This differs greatly from the description of drive type 61 in the 
BIOS.  Did the salesman screw up?  The drive does work when listed 
as a type 61.  

Cheers, Henk
colijn.1@osu.edu
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"Nothing is as inevitable as a mistake whose time has come."
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:00:12 EDT
From: <RFM@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
Subject: SWAN VGA Card in Z159?

I have an old reliable Z159, souped-up iwth a SOTA 386/16sx board, 3
emm cards, a Z449 card and a 1390 monitor. I recently attempted to
swap out the Z449 for a SWAN VGA card. When I attempted to re-boot,
I got a single "Beep" and then system locked up -- no video at all.
I put the 449 card back in & everything worked ok.
   Anybody out there have any idea what problem might be? I *thought*
one could just slide vga cards into one of these machines.
   My BIOS is 3.01B, somesuch. Would a BIOS upgrade help?

   Appreciate any/all suggestions.

BobM, PSU-Harrisburg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
From: davide@sabrina.dei.unipd.it (Davide 'aie' Melan)
Subject: Tech problems and questions on Mastersport 386sx/20
Organization: D.E.I. Universita' di Padova, Italia
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 09:18:39 GMT

Few months ago I bought a Mastersport 386sx/20 with a 85MB hd, now
I have some problems:

	(1) suspend button doesn't work properly
it turns off hd but not the video and machine doesn't go to sleep and 
when batteries are low my Zenith turn off itself instead to switch on
suspend feature (Power management is enabled)

	(2) random colors under Win3.1
mouse arrow pointer is black with a dark body and if I jump to dos or to
a dos task and then go back to win I can find some colors changed;
Paintbrush work space is always black and tools aren't light (for example)
so it's hard to me working with some applications
(I have a Logitech mouse and mouse driver version is 6.02)

	(3) battery life
working with Winword 2.0 I have about 2.15 h up to 3.00 h with more dos
applications: I think this is the average.
Nobody knows if Zenith or someone else will produce more powerful battery
packs for Mastersports?

	(4) optionals
here in Italy they costs a lot, for example
	asyn modem card ~400$
  	syn modem card  ~600$
	syn/asyn modem/fax card ~1000$
Is it the same outside?


thanks in advance

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From: psyrobtw@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
Subject: blank screen (but backlit) on a turbosport
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:34:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41



	A friend of mine just sent me a message that her screen is 
blank on her turbosport. The screen still has the backlit blue hue, 
but nothing is being directed there. She did say that she may have hit 
an alt-function lcd key before it went on the fritz.

	How do I undo this so that her screen gets back to normal?

Thanks!


=============================
Robert Weiss
psyrobtw@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
From: csjos@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (John Stafford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
Subject: needed
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:33:55 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

Items needed for a HEATH ZENITH  MINISPORT LAP TOP COMPUTER
i am in need of a disk drive and cable interface anybody know of where 
such a creature may exist for sale please contact my my email address is
csjos@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu or you can call 234-3283 tnx .
.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
From: awilliam@qucis.queensu.ca (Majik)
Subject: ATTN: Rocco.Calderone@homebase.vistachrome.com
Summary: Attempting to Contact
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:32:54 GMT


Email to you seems to vanish in the BIT-VOID. 
I posted a request for a minisport manual, and you replied. 
I have been unable to contact you to accept your offer. 
Do you still have this manual?? Please email/post
reply.

Andrew Williams
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From: djo7613@hardy.u.washington.edu (Dick O'Connor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
Subject: Multiple parallel ports in Z386/25
Keywords: Zenith Z386/25, parallel ports
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:13:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct6.201338.20866
Reply-To: djo7613@u.washington.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I've upgraded a ZDS 286 machine (Z248/12) to a Z386/25 using the Heath
upgrade kit.  Now I have the urge to add one and maybe even two more
parallel ports so that this machine can "serve" three printers on a LANtastic
network (it's back in a "printer" room, and seldom has any users).

In digging out spare I/O cards and fooling around, I learned a bit about the
standard IO card in this machine, but not enough.  Even when I believe I have
the second card set to LPT2 and the original card set to LPT1, I get a write
fault on LPT2.  These spare cards always seems to have extra serial ports 
around to confuse things, but I'm fairly certain I've disabled them (the
original two are all I need).  Are there are further tricks I need to know
to get this machine to support multiple parallel ports?  Yes, I've even
set LPT2 to use IRQ=5 and still had trouble.

In working out how to disable those extra serial ports, I found out that
the manual I got describing the jumper settings for the Z I/O card may
have errors in it.  When I set the jumpers so that (according to the book)
serial port 1 is COM1 and serial port 2 is COM2, I get conflicts with the
two serial devices I have (mouse and label printer).  When I return the
jumpers to the state they were in when I received the upgrade kit (which
the books claims sets both ports to COM1), I can use each device without
trouble.  So, maybe the book is just kidding me about the parallel port
jumper settings?  :)  Any advice/war stories appreciated!

"Moby" Dick O'Connor                         djo7613@u.washington.edu 
Washington Department of Fisheries           *I brake for salmonids* 
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From: cp01395@dcsc.dla.mil (Duane L. Rezac)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
Subject: Re: Zenith 286 CMOS
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:35:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Defense Construction Supply Center, Columbus

From article <BvCv75.9vv@cda.mrs.umn.edu>, by derungjj@cda.mrs.umn.edu (John DeRung):
> 
>    I have a problem I hope someone else has encountered.  We have two Zenith
> 286s, purchased sometime ago,  each has a hard drive and 5 1/4 drive.  Sometime 
> in the past (before my time) a 3 1/2 drive was added to each.  Unfornately, the
> CMOS only knows about 5 1/4" drive formats.  Thus, it treats these drives as 
> either 360K or 1.2 MG drives.  Is there any way to get CMOS to understand 3 1/2"
> drive formats?
> 
> Thanks in advance.  derungjj@cda.mrs.umn.edu

you could try the driver.sys and configure it as a 720K drive. In
order to get it to work as a 1.4m, you will have to replace the bios
chips (we had to for ~120 pc's). As a side note, the bios upgrade
will also let you use more different types of hard drives and a 101
key keyboard instead of the 84 key keyboard. 
(note: these pc's were the government Z-248 types, with a passive 
backplane board instead of a mother board)






Duane L. Rezac
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