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Subject: Script Query: _The_Princ
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:42:08 -0600

AW[>Of course a quote that comes to mind is during the battle of Wits:
AW[>".. and Australia is entirely peopled with criminals .."

Of course, this line is even better if one recalls that Australia was
initially a british Penal colony.
___
 X SLMR 2.1 X "No One touches my brain"

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From: moore7004@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most ridiculous sex scene (in a movie - not real life)
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:25:17 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

>>The scene in "9-1/2 Weeks" where Kim Basinger and Mickey Rourke have at
>>it in an alley in a downpour.  Looks great, but the water had to be *cold*,
>>not to mention disgustingly filthy.  

I think the love scene in "9 1/2 Ninjas" was far superior.
From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Upcoming movies (Malcolm X)
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:04:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <1992Aug27.145818.16580@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
> In article <1992Aug27.134626.28122@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> jor1@hera.uucp (24315-rich) writes:
> >Malcolm X is an A-hole.
> 
> Really?  How do you know him?
> 
> GMS

By his writing, in support of murdering people simply because of
their race.
-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
Alcohol prohibition didn't work; drug prohibition doesn't work; gun
prohibition won't work.
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: best shots wanted
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:07:36 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

MA>     I would like some opinions of what people consider the best shots or
MA>sequences in movie history.  I don't care about the movie as a whole, just
MA>specifics.  Examples/Personal favorites:

     The climactic scene of "Fantasia," where "Night On Bald Mountain"
     segues into "Ave Maria" may be my all-time favourite movie scene.
     The demon Chernobog lifts his arms to the heavens, in a fashion
     that makes me want to cry every time I see it - this creature of
     Hell, this outcast, is yearning for That which he cannot have, and
     which he still desires.  It's as though he's begging forgiveness from
     Above, though that forgiveness may never come.

     I sincerely believe that Oliver Stone stole from this particular
     scene when he did Elias' (Willem Dafoe's) death scene in "Platoon."

     One of the most original, inspired moments I've ever seen in the
     movies comes during "The Empire Strikes Back," when Han Solo meets
     Darth Vader face to face.  We've seen enough movies (especially the
     James Bond series) that show us what happens when the hero and the
     villain meet face to face in a public place.  There's some unwritten
     law of etiquette that requires the hero and the villain to engage
     in pleasant conversation, joking with each other and boasting how
     the villain will playfully squash the hero like a bug, while the
     hero laughs at the villain's jokes.  They then go their separate
     ways, and the movie continues with the hero trying to beat the
     villain.

     This doesn't happen in "The Empire Strikes Back."  Never mind those
     silly laws of etiquette, never mind the fact that there were
     stormtroopers all over the place - Han just whipped out his blaster
     and SHOT Vader!  Just like that.  Now, THAT is a truly original
     moment in cinema history.  (His shots didn't have any effect, but
     that's not important.)

     (On a similar note: there's the classic "shoot the swordsman" gag
     in "Raiders Of The Lost Ark," too.)
---
  SLMR 2.1a  Forget the virgins - we're OUT of virgins!
--
Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA

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From: mpc+@pitt.edu (Mike Contento)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:06:12 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

>From: mlh@eddy.austin.ibm.com (Mike Haskell)
> What is the most embarassing movie you have ever seen?  (What I mean by
> embarassing, is that you feel absolutely miniscule when the lights come
> up and you HAVE to walk out of the theater with every other bonehead
> who bought a ticket to this turkey).  Movies on video don't count as
> your stupidity is hidden by the walls of your house. :-)
============================================================================
  
  Mine would have to be HOUSE II . My sister liked HOUSE , so she suggested
  going to see it. I seen more boring movies like THE IN_LAWS and MURDER BY
  DEATH, but this is the only one I actually hoped no one I knew would see
  me coming out of.

  Most embarrassing TV-MOVIE would have to be NIGHT OF THE LEPUS about giant
  killer rabbits ! 
-- 
[mike contento] I'm a walking ecomomy - my hairline's in a recession, 
[ univ.of pgh.] my waist is a victim of inflation, and together 
[mpc+@pitt.edu] they're putting me in a deep depression!"   -M. Segal
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: a0s5108@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Neal and Mara Priestly)
Subject: Re: Showtime
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:00:50 GMT

In article <BD.92Aug26124907@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>a0s5108@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Neal and Mara Priestly) write:
>
>>I find that this is not the question being asked of *me* when this happenes.
>>It is gernerally a case of someone being too lazy to look at THE TWO FOOT 
>>CLOCK HANGING OVER MY HEAD.  I'm not kidding...the clock in our box office
>>is twenty six inches across, but people still ask me what time is is. 
>
[pointless flame deleted]
>
>>I have taken to making a point of turning completely in place and checking
>>the clock I bought for the express purpose of being HUGE AND NOTICABLE.
>
>Oh, good.  Another rude person in a "service" industry.  Ecomists claim

Either you trimmed it out our I failed to explicitly note it:  I very 
politely give the patron the time, but it seems the only way to point
out the clock to many of the increasingly rude and slothful persons
resident to this ADI without them causing a scene.  If I check my watch
it is followed by questioning (more like challenging/insulting) to the
tune of 'and of course the projectionist will start the movie by *YOUR*
watch.'  The implication being that I am giving them an time which will
have no relavance to the case in point.  While I can understand the 
nature of the follow-up question, it being phrased more than 80% of the
time as a sarcastic questioning of how the business is run leads me to
hope to answer this question no more than once per paying customer.
I also find that if I respond with polite words with 'the clock is
right there' and motion behind me people get offended with me for not
simply answering thier question.  Some seem honestly to expect me to
know without looking what the time is.

The sequence goese something like this.   Patron asks for the time
with wording and tone ranging from polite inquiry to sarcastic demand.
I open with 'let's see,' then turn in place to check the clock.  I 
then politly return my attention to the patron and answer thier 
question.  To the one or two people a night who act embarassed to
have missed the clock I assure them that many people miss it.

My complaint with the general public is that they have been so coddled
for so long that they have forgotten that service industry employees
are people too.  We are not omnicient slaves who's only existance is
filled with a burning need to serve thier wildest and most unreasonable
whims.  Raised on the customer is always right they fail to see that
there must be a limit to this at least when annother customer would
be inconvienienced.  (this is the root problem of trying to enforce
any talking ban in theatres....)
 
>that the U.S. economy is changing from a manufacturing economy to a 
>service economy.  I hope they're wrong 'cause most service here sucks.

The regular patrons of my theatre find our service regularly beyond the
call, and above the standards of most places.

>-- 
>   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766


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From: rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A Lady and her Walrus)
Subject: Re: STAR WARS SNEAKER
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 04:22:44 GMT

In article <sheppamj.715543314@sun.soe.clarkson.edu> sheppamj@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Matthew Sheppard) writes:
>I've heard it several places and watched for this but never seen it:
>
>In one of the battle scenes in one of the starwars movies when they're
>showing the armada I've heard a rumor that one of the ships is actually
>a sneaker, perhaps a chuck taylor, does anybody know if this is true
>and what movie/scene it's in?

It's in Return of the Jedi.  I don't recall the scene exactly, but it was
recently posted in rec.arts.sf.starwars.  If you check there, it'll probably
still be there; it hasn't been two days since I saw it.

The Walrus


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From: matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (Mcinnes B T (Dr))
Subject: Re: Woody and Mia
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 04:13:52 GMT

Why is this thread in alt.muslim.gay? I don't think he's a Muslim.
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From: urbina@novax.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: 3 Sep 92 05:00:49 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies

In article <1992Aug31.215528.29891@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, mlh@eddy.austin.ibm.com (Mike Haskell) writes:
> 
>  What is the most embarassing movie you have ever seen?  (What I mean by
>  embarassing, is that you feel absolutely miniscule when the lights come
>  up and you HAVE to walk out of the theater with every other bonehead
>  who bought a ticket to this turkey).  Movies on video don't count as
>  your stupidity is hidden by the walls of your house. :-)


I went to a Drive in movie place a couple of years back, where they showed
three ungodly cheesebag movies. I thought I would have a good time laughing
at them, but instead got pissed off and left after the beginning of the third
movie.  

They were in this cheesemeister order:


    "Q" with David Carradine.

  A stupid horror movie about Quetzalcoatl (the winged snake) as a giant
 monster that attacks New York or Chicago. Really bad stop-motion animation.
  Reminds me of Hanna Barberra Yogi Bear animation 8 fps.






     Hell comes to Frogtown.
    Rowdy Roddy Piper and Sandahl Bergman.
    Sandahl Bergman's dance the only thing that kept my attention.





    Fat Guy goes Nutzoid.

    The less said about this movie the better.


Don't laugh too hard.

Guy.

Urbina@novax.llnl.gov
From: israel@risky.Convergent.COM (Paul Israel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Excalibur music?- NOT Carmina Burana
Date: 27 Aug 92 00:45:54 GMT
Organization: Unisys Unix Systems Group, San Jose, CA

From article <37264@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, by smah@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Steve Mah):
> I've seen this brought up quite a bit, but I've never been able to
> catch the answer I was looking for.  I realize the operatic pieces
> from Excalibur were taken from Carmina Burana by Orff but what about
> the rest of the orchestral music throughout the rest of the film
> (especially over the end credits)?  Or is it all from CB?

   The closing (and opening credits) are from Wagner's Ring Cycle,
the fourth opera, Die Gutterdammerung (sic, I'm sure). Specifically,
Sigfried's death scene near the end of the last act. Utterly stunning
piece of music when heard in context.

   If you like that part, you should hear the rest of it. The Ring
Cycle is also the source of the memorable "Ride of the Valkieries"
(sic again, I'll bet), which was recycled with such zest in
the helicopter scene from "Apocalypse Now".
-- 
Paul Israel -----------------  israel@risky.convergent.com
Senior Smartypants ----------- Unisys Corporation, San Jose, California
Disclaimer: "Who, me? I wasn't even there!"
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From: mabriggs@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Mark A Briggs)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.animation
Subject: Little Nemo
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:47:05 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

Hello,

  I work at a theater here in Indiana and have a question.  We are going
to start showing Little Nemo Friday and I was wondering if I could get a
plot summary.  I thought I saw something on rec.arts.animation, thus the
cross posting.
	Please E-Mail me with your reply.

	Thanqs,
		Q
-- 
Marq A Briggs (Q at Purdue)             Laugh while you can Monkey Boys!
mabriggs@en.ecn.purdue.edu                          -John Whorfin
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From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 22:26:57 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Aug28.014042.1164@fulcrum.oz.au> <1992Aug28.191312.23885@bnr.ca>
  <1992Aug31.215528.29891@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>

>
> What is the most embarassing movie you have ever seen?  (What I mean by
> embarassing, is that you feel absolutely miniscule when the lights come
> up and you HAVE to walk out of the theater with every other bonehead
> who bought a ticket to this turkey).  Movies on video don't count as
> your stupidity is hidden by the walls of your house. :-)

I felt something like this when I left the West L.A. art house theatre
after having snoozed thru a Soviet semi-2001-ripoff called "Solaris"
back in my college daze.  I can't remember ever having fallen asleep
more times in a theatre than during the screening of this monstrosity.
I guess I just wasn't "hip" enough to "get it" but to this day I think
it was a monumental waste of my time and whatever I paid to see it.

Harv
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: edd151s@nella16.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr I.P. Rayner)
Subject: Re: great voices
Reply-To: edd151s@nella16.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr I.P. Rayner)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:55:55 GMT


Im new to this thread ... Surely James Earl Jones must have been mentioned?

--
Ivan Rayner
Monash University, Melbourne, Australia.
From: kfree@fatcity.cts.com (Kenneth Freeman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best shots wanted
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 01:17:33 PDT
Organization: Fat City Software, San Diego, California

csroc@dime.prime.com (Charles Sroczynski x4014 5-2) writes:

> >3) RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK - The fight around the airplane, as it
> >slowly rotates. The fire chasing around the plane in the background
> >took some real timing.
> 
> Kind of shocked that you(or anyone else) would mention the timing
> of this shot...there was no continuous action...and no timing in 
> this,(nor in many of the Indy movie action shots).  These shots are
> created by editing.  You never see the fighters, the girl, the plane,
> and the gasoline fire at the same time in anything resembling a 
> continuous fashion. By rights, the girl, Indy, and the Nazi should have
> been killed by the explosion and fire about five minutes before they
> escaped;  the timing was so far off that I feel it lost much of the 
> suspense and realism that could have been here.

 
With _Rope_ and _High Noon_ as exemplars of reel time being
real time, which movies at the other end of the scale
have sequences where the timing is wildly off?

-- 
kfree@fatcity.cts.com (Kenneth Freeman)
Fat City Software BBS -- (619) 268-9275
UUCP: ...crash.cts.com!fatcity!kfree  OR  ...telesoft.com!fatcity!kfree
From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Aliens 3 and stuff
Date: 27 Aug 92 09:09:43 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.movies
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <SSURHODE.92Aug26103154@suma1.susssys1.rdg.ac.uk>, by ssurhode@susssys1.rdg.ac.uk (Paul Rhodes):
> Okay. Aliens 3 has finally come out in the UK. I saw it last night.
> I'm not sure what I thought about it, but I have a few questions...

>   c. How did the eggs get on the sulaco ?

I would advise that you move this question to rec.arts.sf.movies, it
has been debated over there for weeks and people will love sharing
their ideas with you. :-)

Basically, the position appears to be that those who liked Alien 3 say
it must have been possible somehow, and it does not really matter,
since it happened.  Those who didn't like it say that this issue shows
a cavalier attitude about continuity with the earlier films and a
general disinterestedness about such unimportant things as a plot.
-- 
Markus Stumptner                                mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at
University of Technology Vienna                 vexpert!mst@relay.eu.net
Paniglg. 16, A-1040 Vienna, Austria             ...mcsun!vexpert!mst
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: ziauddin@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Tasneem Ziauddin)
Subject: Re: great voices
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:34:44 GMT


James Mason comes immediately to mind, followed closely by George Sanders.
Also, on the female side, Joan Greenwood.
From: assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site)
Subject: Re: Movies you heard were good but sucked 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:41:43 GMT
Distribution: na 
 

In article <elambert.715635320@qualcom> elambert@qualcom.qualcomm.com
(Eber Lambert) writes:
>
>
>But the movie that wins the award for best movie that sucked in my
>opinion was the heralded "Chariots of Fire". Had it not been for Vangelis
>this movie would have been completely worthless. And it won the oscar. Go 
>figure.
>

It won the Oscar because it was a brilliant movie.  There are people I
know who thought it moved along a bit slow and maybe was not very
exciting, but I think the term "sucked" is a bit harsh for such an
excellent film.  This is one of my favorite films of all times, and
I think maybe you should give the film another chance . . . ?

Kris




--
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From: rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:26:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.215528.29891@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, mlh@eddy.austin.ibm.com (Mike Haskell) writes:
> 
>  What is the most embarassing movie you have ever seen?  (What I mean by
>  embarassing, is that you feel absolutely miniscule when the lights come
>  up and you HAVE to walk out of the theater with every other bonehead
>  who bought a ticket to this turkey).  Movies on video don't count as
>  your stupidity is hidden by the walls of your house. :-)
---------
That's easy... 

Liquid Sky.
pretentious to the max...

rlwilliams
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: Woody Allen / Mia Farrow
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 14:56:47 GMT
Organization: The Fighting Thundercats

Anupama Chathampally - co-op writes:
>Jeff Davis writes:
>>As for Allen's side on the issue of custody it is possible that
>>he views Mia Farrow's frequent trips to the adoption agencies
>>as a neurotic condition rather than as a noble sacrifice or an
>>act of love. [I know neither of them, obviously, nor do most of
>>the posters on this issue. I'm simply showing that there can
>>very easily be two sides to this issue.] If the child abuse charge
>>is simply an act of Farrow's anger then I don't think  the
>>custody case should be judged peremptorily.
>>-- 
>
>As far as adoption agencies are concerned they are pretty strict about who
>they let adopt children.  Not just anyone can walk in and leave with a child.
>They check the home environment and the ability of the adopter as a parent. If
>she were neurotic and not a good mother they would'nt let her adopt. 

With childless couples having to wait years for a child, Farrow's ability
to adopt a white infant suggests that her celebrity status may have
an inordinate influence. Also, I was unclear: I don't know that
Farrow went through agencies. I was using the phrase "trips to the
adoption agencies" as an echo of the cliche "trips to the altar." 
Sorry for being too cute with my language.

I also want to stress the hypothetical nature of my post. Personally,
I think that people who adopt are saints.  
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> Write when you get the chance.
From: rmills@controls.ccd.harris.com (Richard C. Mills)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Poison Ivy/Sketch Artist
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:39:47 GMT
Organization: Harris Controls and Composition


   Anyone out there know when Poison Ivy will be on video? and
the same goes for Sketch Artist.  Sketch artist was a made for Show Time
movie.  Thanks,

	Richard Mills

rmill@ccd.harris.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: coleman@leland.Stanford.EDU (Michele Coleman)
Subject: Re: Song in SWF
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 05:22:48 GMT

   I don't know the name of this song, but it was performed by
Chrissie Hynde and I believe it was composed by Jon and Vangelis.
Jon = Jon Anderson, from Yes; Vangelis is perhaps most well known
for composing the _Chariots of Fire_ theme.
   At least, the above information is correct to the best of my
knowledge.

					--Michele Coleman
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: clee@ssdsun.asl.dl.nec.com (Christina Lee)
Subject: Re: sex in movies
Organization: NEC America, Inc. Irving, Texas
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:38:40 GMT

>Too explicit for what?  And not really called for, in what way?
I don't thing having a woman bouncing up and down on a guy is called for.
Nor is having a naked woman straddling a naked guy on a chair.  I think
that is too explicit.

>These films, at least in part, are supposed to be about sex.  They
Perhaps, but is it necessary to show such detail?

>Personally, I'd be more concerned with exposing kids to the violent
>content of "Basic Instinct" or "Single White Female", than the sexual
>content.
I will agree with that, but I wouldn't say the violence it any better
or any worse.  The sexual explicitness and the violence are both
getting out of hand, in my opinoin.

>
>"Boomerang" is a sex comedy.  It's not surprising that a sex comedy of
>the 90's is quite a bit more sexually explicit than the Doris Day/Rock
>Hudson sex comedies of the early 60's.  I don't remember scenes in 
>"Boomerang" that seemed "beyond the pale", to me.
I thought "Boomerang" was about a swapping of stereotypical roles in
a relationship.  I didn't think the sex was the main point of the movie.

I do appriciate your feedback.

-- 
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
:  Christina Lee  @  NEC America Advanced Switching Lab, Irving, TX        :
:  clee@asl.dl.nec.com   || Any opinions stated here are mine and not      :
:                        || necessarily those of my employer.              :
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Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
From: bjbartlett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (The Bart-Man)
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:53:03 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <1992Aug31.215528.29891@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, mlh@eddy.austin.ibm.com (Mike Haskell) writes:
>  What is the most embarassing movie you have ever seen?  (What I mean by
>  embarassing, is that you feel absolutely miniscule when the lights come
>  up and you HAVE to walk out of the theater with every other bonehead
>  who bought a ticket to this turkey).  Movies on video don't count as
>  your stupidity is hidden by the walls of your house. :-)

  "Top Secret"!

-Bart

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