From: dlhpfm!dlh@NCoast.org (daniel lance herrick)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: WAF165
Keywords: Waffle
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 15:33:42 EDT
Organization: dlh Performance Marketing

ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman) writes:

> dlhpfm!dlh@NCoast.org (daniel lance herrick) writes:
> 
> > ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman) writes:
> > 
> > > bill@moo.org (Bill Horton) writes:
> > > 
> > > > I have not been reading this group lately, has Waffle 165 been
> > > > released yet, in final version?
> > > 
> > > Yes.  It was released 03 August.
> > 
> > And I tried installing it last night.  All it ever did was declare that
> > it had run out of memory and exit.  Running DOS 4.01 with BNU, I
>                                               ^^^^^^^^
> First of all, you have a known bad operating system.  Get an
> upgrade if you can.

That was my excuse to get 5.0 which put the available memory over
600000 without any effort.  Still 1.65 exits with a line like
"WAFFLE -- Out of Memory..!"
Those are the correct words, the punctuation from memory is
questionable.

For the record, I am trying to put it in place of a working 1.64, from
which I am posting this right now.

> > managed to get 578144 bytes for it and it still just exited.  Does it
> > require more memory than that or am I triggering the message with some
> > other detail?
> 
> Also, what kind of system are you running?  That might help us
> narrow your problems down.  And show us a copy of your CONFIG.SYS
> and AUTOEXEC.BAT files.

The system is a December 1989 EPS Technology 386, 33Mhz, second disk
drive just installed because of a plague of errors with the original
(which is now D: and E: formatted at 126000 instead of 154000).  This
part has to be irrelevant.

> Good luck!  And you're just about going to need it with 4.01!
> :-)

I wanted an excuse to install 5.0 and did it on Monday.  The problem
has to be in my waffle configuration.  If waffle 1.65 refused to run in
less than 600K this newsgroup would be full of discussions of my problem.

Below are my config.sys and autoexec.bat files because you asked for
them, and my static file because I think the fix is more likely to lie
there.

I followed update.doc in changing static, thus only rearranging all the
level limits (doing a transpose on the matrix for some reason).  Waffle
1.65 refused to run with the old path line in the static file, so that is
gone.  I've made no serious effort to read the great pile of documents
that came with 1.65.  If that's the reason for my troubles, please
point me at the document that I should start with.

The usenet file is tolerably large, but nowhere near a full feed of
anything.  The editor says it is 175 lines, looks like fewer than 20
lines of comment.

------------------------config.sys below------------------------------
DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
files= 30
BREAK=ON
BUFFERS=20
LASTDRIVE=g
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /e:1000 /p
DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
DOS=HIGH
------------------------autoexec.bat below----------------------------
VERIFY OFF
PATH C:\DOS;c:\msw;c:\waffle\bin;c:\bin;c:\etc\bin;c:\brief;c:\c86plus;c:\bat;c:\ms;c:\pcw;c:\gcc;c:\wp51\
set bpath=;c:\brief\macros
set bhelp=c:\brief\help
set bfile=c:\brief\state.rst
set bcasm="masm %%s,%%s,%%s,\;"
set bpackages=default-txt:r,wp 72;inv-inv,pkl-pkl,ltr-ltr:r,wp 80;h,c-c:t 1 1 1;asm-asm:r;txt:wp;cc-c:t
set bflags=-B1i30u75z -mDLH -mrestore -Dega -D101key
set mouse=C:\MOUSE
loadhigh C:\MOUSE\mouse /Y
loadhigh share
prompt $d $t $p$g
ver

set pcwrite=c:\pcw
set history=96
set c86tmp=d:\
set c86include=c:\c86plus\include
set c86flags=-W2
set c86carole=-m
set c86lib=c:\c86plus\lib

set gccbin=c:/gcc/bin
set gccinc=c:/gcc/inc
set gcclib=c:/gcc/lib
set gcctmp=c:/gcc/tmp  

set imdisp=ORCHID800

set TZ=EST
set USER=dlh
set HANDLE=daniel lance herrick

set waffle=c:\waffle\system\static

loadhigh \etc\bin\bnu /l:0=0,8n1
\waffle\bin\run
set TEMP=C:\msw\TEMP
------------------------static below----------------------------------
# file system/static
# hardware parameters

device       : 1
speed        : 9600
driver       : FOSSIL
locked       : 9600
initialize   : AT H0 L0 M1 W0 V0 S0=1  s36=7 V1 E0 X4 &K3
answer       : AT A
offhook      : AT H1 L1 S0=0

# system parameters

node         : dlhpfm.UUCP
#node         : dlh.com
#alias        : dlh.UUCP
uucpname     : dlhpfm
smarthost    : ncoast
backbone     : ucbvax.berkeley.edu
organ        : dlh Performance Marketing
timezone     : EST 5 EDT

netmail      : dlhpfm!%A@NCoast.org (%W)
netnews      : dlhpfm!%A@NCoast.org (%W)
ignore       : Path Message-ID In-Reply-To Sender
ask          : Subject

bar          : %! %c %A (%W) <%a> %@ %# %? %T
colors       : 7 15 112
timeout      : 450
slow         : 250
ul_slow      : 300
dl_slow      : 300
buflines     : 30000
new          : new

# bbs parameters

# comment    : Level %L: %R
#paths        : C: C:\PUBLIC
forums       : usenet protege 
#comp misc news rec sci soc talk alt local 
compress   :  -dv

# prompts

prompt       : %B%|%T (?=help!) -> %
scan         : [^RET^] %[-%], ^Q^)uit: %
scan_end     : ^P^ost, ^L^ist, [%[-%]] ^Q^uit: %
newscan      : ^Qs>^ %
newscan_end  : ^Qs>^ Post here? %
error        : Monkey + Typewriter = %i.%|
boardname    : %B
login        : %|Login or NEW: %

# level restrictions

mail_ok      : 1
netmail_ok   : 0
journal_ok   : 4
poof_ok      : 1
plan_ok      : 1
cookie_ok    : 1
chat_ok      : 0
ch_level     : 6
ch_name      : 3
# ch_rank    : 5

# posts, mails, ul:dl ratio, calls/day, time

calls:   2   2   2   3   3   3   4   4   5  49
posts:   0  30  30  30  30  40  40  50  60  99
mails:   3  50  50  80  80  80  80  80  80  90
ratios: 20  20  20  20  20  20  20  20  20  20
times:  45 160 260 290 290 290 290 290 290 390

#  directories

bin          : C:/waffle/bin
files        : C:/public
spool        : C:/spool
temporary    : C:/temp
user         : C:/user
waffle       : C:/waffle
------------------------end of quotations-----------------------------

Thank you to anyone willing to think about my troubles.  I used to get
my jollies from reading computer manuals, but somewhere in the last
fifteen years that activity began to be boring. (Intensely boring.)

dan  of dlh Performance Marketing  POBox 1419  Mentor Ohio 44061
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