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From: Gordon.Benedict@f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Gordon Benedict)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: You Wanted a reply?
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 01:30:46 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta

    Hi Shawn,

    Your message to Ron is one that should have been posted in the
    Senior High Chat area.  This is the computer literacy area for
    the discussion of computer literacy curriculum in the schools.



 SD>      I am a Sophmore (10th grader) at Grand Island Senior High in Grand 
 SD> Island, NE, USA.  I am 16, lacking a driving licience. 
 SD>  Why I don't have a 
 SD> driver's is because I am visually imparied (legally blind).  The state 
 SD> seems to think that I can't see well enought to drive.  What most people 
 SD> see at 200 feet I see at 20 feet.  I am about 5'8" have dark brown hair, 
 SD> green eyes, I weigh about 160.  I am a little pudgy I admit, but thats 
 SD> more of me th like.

     etc.

    Thanks.
    
     Gord



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From: Shawn.Djernes@f116.n285.z1.fidonet.org (Shawn Djernes)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Getting To know us.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:19:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:285/116 - Central CC, Grand Island NE

 JF> SD> * Origin: Central CC, Grand Island, NE (308) 389-6495 
 JF> (1:285/116)                             ^^ 
 JF>Where is/what does it stand for? 

     That whole line is the Origination line that tells everybody what BBS 
in the system you are useing.  The "NE" stands for Nebraska it is the 
state abreviation.

Shawn Djernes N0PEU




 * Freddie 1.2 * ... "OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MY MIND!"


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From: Howard.Kang@f921.n720.z6.fidonet.org (Howard Kang)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Letter
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 08:27:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 6:720/921 - World Data Exchange, Taipei Taiwan

Hi !  My name is Howard Kang.  I love to play computer and I have a IBM 486-DX at home.  I usually like to play game with it, but this is my first time using a modem.  I would be happy to receive any message from anybody about computer.



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From: Gary.Davis@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Gary Davis)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: BUSINESS ED. PROJECT
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 22:29:55 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Nope, not Johnny Farham, Bob.  100 % Canadian.  Oh well, that's like you 
saying you know someone in Vancouver (2800 miles from here!)
        I'll try to send you a copy of Main$treet to test on your computer 
geniuses down under.
        Our weather tonight?  Freezing rain expected.  That means temp 
artound 0 Celcius, and the rain freezes when it hits the road.  Great for the 
fender repair business!!!
        Anybody there interested in New Brunswick? (near that Nova Scotia 
hook on the East coast.)  If so, give me a mailing address and I'll send you 
some local junk, probably made in Taiwan.
-Gary `

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From: Carol.Nauss@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Nauss)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: COMPUTER APP. IDEAS
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 19:12:01 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Jim...:)  Believe it or not I hit the capture button and it didn't capture 
one of the things that happen.  I have some things for you and will search 
back through the messages for your address.  In case I don't find it please 
re post it for me.  Sorry about that.  Carol

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From: David.Pedwell@f450.n640.z3.fidonet.org (David Pedwell)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Hello
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 21:48:12 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/450 - The Farmers BBS, Toowoomba Qld Australia

Hello Ian
I am writing to you just to say hi and ask if you know of any
primary schools or teachers in England using K12Net who might
like to exchange letters with some year six (11 yr olds) in
Australia.
What part of England are you from ?
Cheers
David


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From: Bradley.Kelly@f628.n712.z3.fidonet.org (Bradley Kelly)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: msgs here lately?
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 22:17:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:712/628 - Education Database, Sydney University

G'day Fran!

 > BK> Phew .. just finished by English exam - 3 hours. Part of it was
 > BK> based on this American poet by the name of T.S. Eliot, who
 > BK> attended Harvard University, then completed his graduate studies
 > BK> at Merton College, Oxford. The poem is called 'The Lovesong of
 > BK> J.Alfred Prufrock' - it's quite good.

 > Yes I know the poem... I like it too.

Yep .. Eliot is great .. we just did 'Rhapsody on a Windy Night' today. 
Soon, I'll be doing Tennyson and Huck Finn.

 > I think you have a good chance.  If Australia follows a
 > European-type system (and the 3 hr test sounds like it does)
 > then
 > the average college-bound student (I guess you call it
 > University
 > there) would be regarded here as being very well prepared and
 > by
 > virtue of the fact that you're knowledgeable enough about
 > computers to be using a modem, suggests to me you're probably
 > above average for Austrlia in addition...

:-) By the sound of things, it seems you have some preconceptions about 
Australia, and its education system.

In the senior year, all exams are 3 hours, and only just the other day, I 
had TWO 3 hour papers in one hit! (9:00-12:00;1:00-4:00) That was a real 
bastard - especially because of the content - Math and Physics.

The Australian education standard is VERY VERY VERY high (well, at least in 
private schools). By the time I have my maths course next year, I think its 
2nd year uni over there. We do stuff like :-

        Basic & Complex Algebra
        Mathematical induction
        Binomial Theorem
        Polynomials
        Geometry of the Circle
        The Parabola
        Complex Numbers
        Trigonometry
        Trigonometric Functions
        Integration & Differetiation
        Geometrical Application of the derivative
        Conics
        Probability, Permutations, Combinations
        Volumetric Analysis
        Geometry
        Practical Apps of Calculus
        Logarithms
        Inverse functions & inv. Trigonometric functions
        Exponential Growth & Decay

This also goes for Chemistry & Physics... It's like the British System (same 
sort of standard).

 > BK> Computer science is a senior course, comprising of programming,
 > BK> social implications, computers in general, how they work etc..

Sorry, I was a little misleading .. it's actually called 'Computer Studies', 
which probably makes more sense! BTW - , I got 94% for it on the exam :-)

I've gotta go now, it's 11:30pm, and I've got to shower, got to bed and be 
up at six in the morning to be ready for school. Only 2 days to go!!

Regards, Brad  
 

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From: David.Anderson@f734.n153.z1.fidonet.org (David Anderson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: BIBLIOGRAPHY WRITING
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:29:17 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:153/734 - ED-NET 9600, Vancouver BC

I am looking for a simple text file explaining how to write a bibliography. 
If you have one, please send it to me as an <E>nclosed file.  Thanks.

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From: David.Aiau@f505.n770.z3.fidonet.org (David Aiau)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: Project
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 12:36:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:770/505 - Southern Vortex, Dunedin

 >We are three students in a buisness ed class at Sarasota High school, in
 >Florida.  We are interested in doing a research type project on virtual
 >reality.  Requirements for this project require us to work with some other
 >people from outside of this state.  If anybody would be interested in
 >helping us out it would be greatly appreciated.

 I am new to these K echos and have been waiting for an opportunity to 
interact. I have a moderate interest in 3D modelling programs and a real
 fascination for VR. So, What do you have in mind? I own an accelerated 
Amiga but I guess you'd be using an IBM or Clone does this present problems?

Dave Out...

... DeltaMail v2.40 (#1269)

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From: David.Pedwell@f450.n640.z3.fidonet.org (David Pedwell)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Linkway
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 21:46:38 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/450 - The Farmers BBS, Toowoomba Qld Australia

Hello John saw your message about Linkway. I believe that one
of the Grammar schools in Brisbane is using Linkway, could be
girls grammar. There was a presentation of it at last years
Aust Computers in Educ. conference at Bond Uni.
How did you get a copy from IBM ? At the conference this guy
from IBM was taking names and making a big song and dance
about sending people copies, anyway after I didn't here
anything for a couple of months I sent a fax...no response so
I rang up. When I finally spoke to someone in the education
section I had to tell him what Linkway was. Anyway no
response from him either has led me to investigate Hypercard
on the Mac. $#^@%*& IBM. So you can probably tell I was a
little amazed to see you message. Tell me who I should ring to
get an evaluation copy for myself or even some information.
Did you know the CD Mammals was made with Linkway.
cheers
David


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From: Steve.Rivera@f93.n128.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Rivera)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Macintosh!
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 08:25:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:128/93 - CSDB BBS, Colorado Springs CO

Well, actually, I DID know that Freddie was an offline reader...Vantage is also an offline reader, but does almost everything that a commercial word processor does...As for Second Sight, I don't know of any demo copies, since it requires a number of other utilities to run properly....The manufacturer is The Freesoft Company..They are located somewhere on the east coast...You can contact the MacZone for info on the Freesoft Company...Their number is in most Mac user magazines...

Steve 
 

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From: Terry.Bowden@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Terry Bowden)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Hello
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 11:15:08 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

Tom, re your query to Per:
TW>info on Novelle.  We are a small school district (700 students) and have
TW>Macintosh and Apple IIe in our labs.  Our library is changing to an
TW>electronic system, and the software people tell us that we really need to
TW>install Novelle.
TW>  Is this the best system on which to mix Macintosh and MS-DOS?  What
TW>hardware is required?  What type of wire?  Can it run on phone line?  Is
TW>it exxpensive to install?  Is it fairly trouble-free?  Can we run more
TW>than one system on the network (can it run E-mail, student database,
TW>network printing, and network modem, all along with the library search
TW>system?
TW>  If you can give me an idea of the pros and cons of Novelle VS Ethernet
TW>VS Appletalk, I'd really appreciate it!  Many thanks.
TW>...Tom, La Conner, WA, USA
You might also like to take a look at the IBM LAN Server 3.0 Entry
option. This contains support on Ethernet for Appletalk/Macintosh,
DOS clients, modem, file, and print sharing. Both the LAN
Server and the Apple can be print servers for the both DOS and Apple
clients. DOS clients have access to both LAN Server and Novell Server
at the same time.
                 Regards,   Terry
___
 * SLMR 2.0 * 


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From: Gordon.Benedict@f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Gordon Benedict)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Virtual Reality demo software
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 01:00:50 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta

    Hi again, James,

 JA> I'll just check to make sure they are legitimate demos and get
 JA> Ted to file attach them to you.  I believe they are 
 JA> since demo appears on the start up screens.

     Undoubtedly are if that's the case.

 JA> There are about 5 main demo programs.  Do you want them as a
 JA> single large archive or should I split them up into 
 JA> Virtual1.arj, Virtual2...?

     Either way is fine by me.

 JA> Chow for now ....

     You mean CIAO, don't you?  :-)

     Gord




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From: mark@ultramac.uucp (Mark Hladnick)
Organization: Odyssey Ultraware, Inc
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:28:02 CDT
Subject: Re: At Ease

Scott, 

		There is a school of thought that you educate students on how to use the Mac
the proper way. Those who abuse it will soon be caught. I have a class of 20
eighth graders and it seems to work well. The problem will come when other
teachers will want to use it with students who are unfamiliar with the
Macintosh. I think educating and trusting students is the best route, however
different circumstance require different measures.

Mark Hladnick 		mark@oui.com
From: Ron.Decanio@p0.f25.n137.z1.fidonet.org (Ron Decanio)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Misc
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 11:55:39 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:137/25.0 - The Back Door, Venice FL

 
 Shawn--
 
      What's up?  Thanks for writing us back!!  ;Tell us a little 
more about yourself.  Do you work?  Do you like working with Macintosh Computers?  Have you ever trieed working on an IBM PC?  We think that the IBM PC is easier to use than the Macintosh.  Tell us what you r preference is.  And why.  Thanks talk to ya in a couple of days!!!
 
                          Ron, Tim, Aaron



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From: Kevin.Mccluskey@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Kevin Mccluskey)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: COMPUTERS
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 22:29:58 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB


 >  Compress will defragment your disks (hd or fd).
 >  Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2

Well, I tried it and I am imprssed!~! Solved all my problems that I was 
having.  My computer appears to be a little faster and no lost chaines in 
files.  I had tried Norton, Mace and Checkit will no improvement.  Pc-Tools 
Cpmpress soved the problem.  Have you seen version 8 yet?  Being a Windows 
3.1 user I think I will wait.  Besides I bought version 7.0.  I was onlt 
saved by being too busy to installed it before version 7.1 arrived.  Ah life?


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From: John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Linkway from IBM
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 10:09:26 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/706 - Coral Sea, Townsville Qld Australia

G'day Ian,

Wednesday November 11 1992 16:26, Ian Howard wrote to John Feltham:

 > I am familiar with Hypercard but definately not experienced with it.
 > Linkway does sound good though will it run under Windows/DOS/OS/2 or some
 > other mixture of operating system or what ??

Linkway operates on DOS. So far the only thing that I don't like is the graphics used for text characters. ugh!

 > Sorry!  I will change my GoldED origin bits so that it now reads as it does
 > below.

 >  + Origin: Ians House! <> Mail Only <> Rochdale <> England (2:258/16)

Ah! Now thats better! Thanks Ian.

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From: Shawn.Djernes@f116.n285.z1.fidonet.org (Shawn Djernes)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: You Wanted a reply?
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 23:09:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:285/116 - Central CC, Grand Island NE

Ron

     I am a Sophmore (10th grader) at Grand Island Senior High in Grand 
Island, NE, USA.  I am 16, lacking a driving licience.  Why I don't have a 
driver's is because I am visually imparied (legally blind).  The state 
seems to think that I can't see well enought to drive.  What most people 
see at 200 feet I see at 20 feet.  I am about 5'8" have dark brown hair, 
green eyes, I weigh about 160.  I am a little pudgy I admit, but thats 
more of me th like.
     Some my hobbys are Amatuer Radio, Model Railroading, and Computers.  
I am a General Class Amatuer Radio Operater.  HAM radio is a fun hobby 
because you can talk to the world.  I and my father work on the Model 
Railroad, it's mostly his hobby.  I love to work with my computer and to 
telecommunicate.  Some of the authors of the books I like to read:  
Stephen King, Dean R. Koontz, Iasic Asomoth, and I also like to read 
StarTrek and some Mysteries.  I also watch StarTrek The Next Generation 
and I like to listen to the old time radio shows.  I read the books on 
casset tape and on records, because of my vision.  I like to listem to 
Country music mostly, but I do like oldies and soft rock. I hate heavie 
metal or RAP. 
     My computer is a Macintosh LC with 4Mb (Megabites) of RAM and a 40Mb. 
Hardrive.  My mail reader is Freddy 1.2. The communication program I use 
is Zterm 0.9.  I have a Zoom 2400 modem that runs usually at 2400bps 
(baud).  I use Microsoft Works 2.0e for a word prosscessor, database, and 
spredsheet.  
     That is about I have to say.  Any further questions?

Shawn Djernes N0PEU



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From: David.Pedwell@f450.n640.z3.fidonet.org (David Pedwell)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Computer in Classroom
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 21:47:38 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/450 - The Farmers BBS, Toowoomba Qld Australia

Hello Elizabeth I saw your message and wish to add my piece to
the issue that is often debated by computer educators
everywhere, should the computers be in a lab or in the
classroom.
To start with I am a primary teacher in this situation I am a
big supporter of computers in the classroom. I feel this is
the only way to use them as part of the curriculum rather than
separate to. However in the secondary school where computers
are a subject then a lab seems to be the way to go.

If you had some computers in your classroom you could
involve you students in a range of on and off computer tasks.
This could be a project such as a magazine or for creative writing
I know of one secondary teacher who used a computer in the
classroom in this way.
I would think that if you want to use the computers as part of your
class rather than in a lab then give it a go. I think the
rewards will be worth it.
cheers
David


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From: Maureen.Martin@p0.f731.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Maureen Martin)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: What happened to messages in Area 12?
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 21:03:47 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/731.0 - Taft Middle School , Lincoln City OR

Good Evening Sysops=Cyclops:
 
        Some of my most brilliant thoughts just vanished in Smoke 

... along with everyone else's messages ... Why?
 
        Have I offended those "Mentors on High in their Mirrored Shades?"
 
        Touchy ... Touchy!
 
        Again ... I desire to meet these guys in the "Mirrored Shades" 

... "Mother ... May I?"
 
        Purpose ... "Mentorship in areas of Computer Literacy=Language 

for the purpose of refining my own communications skills on Global."
 
        Or ... "Hey, Zeus ... this is ... Hera!  Phone Home!"
 
        Thank you so ... velly, velly Much, Muchacho!
 
                        Maureen Martin, Creator & Scriptwriter (Pro)
 
 
P.S.  Social "Elitism" already, Huh?
 



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From: David.Ong@f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (David Ong)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Business Project
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 07:35:32 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta

Hi there Ron,

        I'm a grade ten student at Lord Beaverbrook High School and I take Computer Science 10 AP.  The first thing we did in Computer Science was a bit of computer history, then we quickly went through MS-DOS (V3.3) learning about the commands and batch files.  Next, we started to work with MicroSoft Works and did some word processing.  Right now our class is doing spreadsheets and graphing.  We first used Works then we used First Choice 3.1, and of course   1-2-3 (I actually thought that Works did the be
st job because of its user-friendliness) .  After we get through spreadsheets and databases our class will start programming in Turbo Pascal 6.0.  By the way, we work on 386sx's networked with a VAX.  I hope this helps you out!

                                                David Ong


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From: John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Hello
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 10:16:24 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/706 - Coral Sea, Townsville Qld Australia

G'day David,

Do you receive K12.zone3?

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From: Shawn.Djernes@f116.n285.z1.fidonet.org (Shawn Djernes)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Macintosh!
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:28:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:285/116 - Central CC, Grand Island NE

Steve 

     Thanks a lot I will look them up. Are you on internet by chance?  I 
have access through the Department of Education here in Nebraska.  If you 
are on internet ond want to leave me a message my address is 
"sld@nde.unl.edu".  That is about all.

Shawn Djernes N0PEU




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