From: quilty@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Humberto Humbertoldi)
Subject: Re: Nazis International
Keywords: nazis, racism, anti-semitism, pez
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:18:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.073939.21827@muddcs.claremont.edu> bkeating@jarthur.claremont.edu (Fool With A Plan) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.054410.24701@news.acns.nwu.edu> hrow@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Heath Row) writes:

>> After
>>talking to a couple revisionists, I did not find this posting at all funny.
>
>Had to talk to a couple of revisionists first,  eh?  If you have to consult
>with people before you find humor in something,  you must not have much
>of a sense of humor.
>
>>I did not find it funny. At all.
>
>The point wasn't to make you laugh anyways.  It was to make you think.
>Can't you see the similarities?  Sure,  Amazons don't go around killing
>men or anything,  but the basic premise behind BOTH general ideals is
>almost identical.  You may not see it,  but I do.  I suppose it may be
>just how you look at it,  or if you even bother to in the first place.

The original "Nazi" post made me think nothing but that it's poster
had a sick, insensitive mind, and a very poor knowledge of history.
It wasn't funny, AND it did not illustrate his supposed point.  The
acknowledgement that "Amazons don't go around killing men or anything"
gives such a fundamental asymmetry to the to "zines" that any
criticism of the "Amazon" one is completely lost.  In fact, "fool with
a plan" has failed to point to ANY similarity between the two (except
for that we're supposed to disapprove of both) as far as I can tell.

>So you're saying you would advocate screening a post such as mine (?).
>I'm assuming that's what you said.  Well,  WHY?  It's offensive?
>It bothers you?  WELL THAT'S GOOD!  I think Noam Chomsky said something
>to the effect of 'you only believe in freedom of speech to the extent
>that you allow freedom of speech that offends you.'

I, for one, certainly do not advocate ANY censorship on these boards,
or anywhere else.  Of course any "fool" should be ALLOWED to post in such
bad taste, and with such inadequate literary pinache, I just wish s/he
would show a little more intelligence of her/his own volition.  
	Just a footnote, I really, REALLY do hate moderated boards --
and certainly wouldn't want this to become one.  Just yesterday I
tried posting a very authentic posting to several "sf" boards to try
to locate a story I read a long time ago (and may want to teach in a
college class), and got a snotty rejection letter saying that my
inquiry was not a "review" and so could not be posted.  This from
someone with the handle "Technofeminist at large" (if you ask me a
very misguided view of both technology and feminism is held by such a
CENSOR).  I'm half seriously considering outright boycotting all
moderated boards on principle.


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