HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cobra@chopin.udel.edu (Jay Bhartkumar Patel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: New Gujju joke
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:42:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <1992Apr09.234610.6556@sdd.hp.com>, rahul@sdd.hp.com (Rahul Bhargava (Temp)) writes:
> 
> No offense to Gujurati Bhai & Bhens.
> 
>  Ques> Which Ice Cream shop does a Gujju frequent in U.S of A. ?
> ^L
>  Ans> You guessed it. Ben & Jerry.

 No offense taken.

 Do you mind explaining this?

 How the hell did you think of this?

 Don't tell me you've lost originality.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chohan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Harpal Chohan)
Subject: Re: Amnesty Intl. Rept.: police torture
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:10:45 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.175658.26496@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> rps@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (raj.sharma) writes:
>
>> >> What I find particularly interesting, is the deafening silence which
>> >> always follows these factual postings. The vocal flamers of AI, studiously
>> >> ignore these posts, and then it's time for the  next round of AI bashing a
>> >> few months later.
>> >> 
>> >> Evidently, facts are an undesirable hindrance...
>
>
>
>> >Or, the undesirable hinderance is a fact.
>
>
>> And, what on earth is that supposed to mean?
>
>
>	What it means is: things don't always go the way we wish.

That's true, but could you be a little clearer on how it ties into
the above thread? I still fail to grasp your point...

-h

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: krishnan@ganzer.ecs.umass.edu (Krishnan P Viswanath)
Subject: Looking for... RANGA DEVULAPALLY
Originator: krishnan@beyux.ecs.umass.edu
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:07:15 GMT

  Missing..... Ranga Devulapally.  He was last found doing MS in Civil
Engg and was on a crash diet to reduce from 120 lbs to double digits !
Last spotted at McDonalds sipping diet Coke.  Height - 5'5". 
Favorite pastime : playing hide and seek behind a lamppost. A party
animal on Fridays.  If anyone spots him, please call us at the following
telephone # 
413-549-1224 and leave a message.
From: neeraj@axon.siemens.com (Neeraj Bhatnagar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Analysis of a typical mistake [was Re: G.C. Thru Marriage to an American Citizen]
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:44:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: axon.NEERAJ.92Apr13204432
	<1992Apr13.180059.25404@umbc3.umbc.edu>
	<1992Apr13.184241.29383@udel.edu>
Reply-To: neeraj@learning.siemens.com
Distribution: soc
Organization: /home/l6/neeraj/.organization
In-reply-to: suresh@fred.cis.udel.edu's message of 13 Apr 92 18:42:41 GMT



"X is planning to get married soon and his wife is an american citizen."

The person (kuntal@mercury.cs.umbc.edu) who noticed this mistake did a very
good job (I did not notice). Later, suresh@fred.cis.udel.edu correctly observed
that Indians make such mistakes more often than Americans. He blamed it on our
"non-linear" society meaning that Indians do not speak what they mean and hence
the mistakes such as the above. I think that following reasons are more likely than the
"non-linear" one--

1. English is not our mother tongue and when we are composing English text a
big part of our "attention" is devoted to fixing the syntax. For native
speakers syntax comes almost free of cost and virtually all of the available
resources go to fixing the semantics. If I have to say the above fact in Hindi,
I doubt that I shall forget to put "hone waali" ("would be" qualifier) for X's
wife.

2. In American schools a lot more attention is paid to style of expression
(both verbal and written) than in Indian schools (ever heard of "show and tell"
exercises for pre-KG kids). Back home the emphasis usually is more on factual
correctness than on style.

3. Almost all boundaries in our society are more relaxed. Our society, in
general, is more fault tolerant than the American society. Speed limits,
punctuality in time, deadlines for home works: almost all things in Indian
society are more gray than either black or white. 


Did I express myself well?

Neeraj Bhatnagar


--
From: punatrb@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: JNTU-Hyderabad.
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:58:31 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

I heard that JNTU-Hyderabad was also combined in IIT's cluster.
Could any one post the correct Info.

Ravindra.
From: sgoutham@ws74.unccvax.uncc.edu (Suryanarayanan Goutham)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Test
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:00:20 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte

just a test.
From: gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko)
Subject: Divorce in the Indian context.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:04:11 GMT


To those of you who believe that divorce is not relevant in the Indian
context...

There is a world outside of your insular perspective and it's quite
different from what you might like to believe.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Subject: Re: Why do most Indians .....
Reply-To: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 18:46:31 GMT

In article <chaw.702525341@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> chaw@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (###.C.H.A.W.###) writes:
>slm5t@cc.usu.edu writes:
>
>>	or German back home, we place stress on the accent. Then what is 
>>	wrong if a 'desi' learns and talks in american accent with an 
>>	american? I agree that its foolish to talk in an american accent 
>>	with 'desis'. Some people might say that americans should learn 
>
>There's nothing wrong with speaking with an American accent, irrespective of
>whether one is speaking to Americans _or Indians_.  It just seems rather vain
>to put it high on ones priority list!

What IS an American accent?  My accent is far from that of someone
from New York, Atlanta, LA, or even Boston for that matter.  there is
NO such thing as an 'American' accent.
>

>-Chaw


-- 
 Michael Le Houllier           *  John 3:16  * Nov 12, 1991 - Dili      
 (m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu.us) *  Remember: June 4, 1989 - Beijing
 Go BLUE JAYS   0-0   at Tigers Monday, Wednesday and Thursday
 End the strike.  Get back on the ice.  Get the playoffs going.
From: faheem@triton.unm.edu (Faheem Arshad Rana)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: LISTEN
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:56:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.klqjj9b
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

Assalamou Alaekum,
                   some nice pieces of poetry , enjoy them.

CHAND...
 
      Jaisay gul shajer pay, keh chand raat kai saath,
      Mansoob aisey he hai eik sheiksh meri zaat kai saath,
              Per iss ka kaya keejeayae, yeh to hai husn-e-fitrat
              Nah gul her shajar pay, nah chaand her raat kai saath.
                
                                                             ( Parveen Shakir )
wah wah wah wah,,,,,,



Ru'bai

     Zabt ka O'hed bhi hai, shooq ka paimaan bhi hai
     Ehed'O paimaan say guzer jaanay ko jei chahta hai
                  durd itna keh her rug main hai mehsher burpa
                  Aur sakoon aisa keh mer jaanay ko jei chahta hein


wah wah ,,,,,
 
mukarrar, mukarrar


     Zabt ka O'hed bhi hai, shooq ka paimaan bhi hai
     Ehed'O paimaan say guzer jaanay ko jei chahta hai
                  durd itna keh her rug main hai mehsher burpa
                  Aur sakoon aisa keh mer jaanay ko jei chahta hein
                                        
                                                                     ( Faiz )

Hope every one will like them . If no ....... then I do not care.


                                                               Allah Hafiz,
                                                               faheem.


Do unto others 
 
As you would have others do unto you.   

( give it a thought )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko)
Subject: Re: Netiquette
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:13:28 GMT

In article <Idt9XAu00WB6EbqlpE@andrew.cmu.edu> Sudha Neelakantan <sn00+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>I received about 15 pieces of "personal" mail in response to my initial
>post[not counting all the mail that just said that was nice or whatever
>and is not what I object to].  I and most netters would agree that the
>appropriate time for personal responses is when a thread has degenerated
>into nit picking between a couple of people farther on down the line.  I
>did not forward these to the bboard since the original senders did not
>so deem their responses fit.  But I wish that if they really thought so
>little of their opinions that they did not deem them fit for public
>consumption, they might have extended that consideration to me....


Here's an example. I received mail from kps1@psuvm.psu.edu and explained
to him firmly and with minimal courtesy that his e-mail was unsolicited
and that I had no interest in reading his messages. I also added that his
userID had been appended to my mail filter so that his mail would (also)
be deleted at source. This is what I get back from Mr. half-wit.

From AZV1@PSUVM.PSU.EDU  Thu Apr  9 16:32:36 1992
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Date:    Thu, 9 Apr 92 16:32 EDT
From: <AZV1@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject: Ho Ho Ho Ho
To: gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Status: RO

Hi Dude,
        I knew all the while that you were bird-brained, but now I think that
birds are better off. Imagine trying to delete mails from one particular userid
at one particular node. Do you think that you have done an intelligent thing ??
I have innumerable accounts, so don't try such foolish things. Maybe I should
explain it to you (since you might not be smart enough to understand) that this
is kps1 mailing to you once again.

Bye sucker.

.sig file deleted.

KPS1@PSUVM.PSU.EDU                                Penn State University

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: movies not improving!!!
From: ndshah@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:46:31 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

I saw the latest Hindi movies: Lamhe, Dil Ka Kyaa Kasoor, Sadak,
The stories were all bogus. I mean unrealistic. In Lamhe, Sridevi
falls in love with anil Kapoor who is 13 years older to her. He's
almost like her father. And in Dil Ka Kyaa Kasoor, the directors
drag the dying of both heroine and hero forever.... Sadak shows
the worst of Indian culture.. I mean the scene of prostitution.
I know that is not part of the Indian culture, but as the decade
comes to 2000, India movies are getting worse and worse. They
don't have their own identity. They keep on copying other cultures
and there is no need for that.... Songs no doubt are great, but
there is no match to the story. Being the world's greatest movie
producer, it still has alot to improve... its quality not
quanitity.right? 
   And how do they just pull models off the street to make
them act? That is ridiculous...
 

   Any comments:


   EMAIL: NDSHAH@wsuiar.wsu.ukans.edu


Keep in mind, I am a ABCD, so I may be wrong...


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
From: rps@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (raj.sharma)
Subject: Re: The World and Sanskrit [an eyewitness testimony]
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:15:30 GMT


> One more forgotten point: Before coming of the Islam, all over
> Middle East 'shivalingas' were worshipped. A passing reference to 
> this can be found in "The Wonder that was India" by Basham A.N.


		*** an eyewitness testimony ***


When visiting Sicily, I went to see a ruin on an offshore island.
In the middle of the ruins was a shivalinga (as found in countless
small Shiva temples in India). I asked my friend to take a photograph
of it [I didn't possess a camera then]; and I do have that slide
somewhere.

The guide said that the ruins were from "many (forget the right number)"
centuries B.C. when human sacrifice was practiced there
[the ruins contained "urns" containing "ashes" of sacrificed
"small children."]


---raj
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sgs1679@usl.edu (Sudhindranath Sira G)
Subject: Re: Indian English
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 16:25:17 GMT

In article <1992Apr17.160518.4475@cs.umn.edu> karnik@cs.umn.edu (Neeran Mohan Karnik) writes:
>
>	Some more...
>
>1. "Open the windows and let the atmosphere come in"!
>

The version I know is this :

  "Open the windows and let the AIR FORCE come in"!
>
>-- 
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Neeran  Karnik - Dept. of Computer Science, University of Minnesota
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Sira Gopinath Sudhindranath.
(sudhi@usl.edu)
(sgs@ucs.usl.edu)
From: srikanth@cs.tamu.edu (Srikanth Kandhalam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: SATYAJIT RAY RETROSPECTIVE....HELP NEEDED
Date: 14 Apr 92 06:00:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University

I would be grateful to those who could suggest a way to get hold of
RAY's classics(film preferable but cassetes would be o.k)
Could the cost of procuring be split amongst Indian Student associations
of South-Western universities. Please send me a personal E-mail,I will post the
summaries. Any ideas in this connection would be welcome

srikanth kandhalam

my E-mail srikanth@cs.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: udcrusd@meaddata.com (Sylvia D'Cruz)
Subject: News: TIBETAN GROUP TO SETTLE IN CHICAGO
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:37:41 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.indian

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

                Copyright (c) 1992 Comtex Scientific Corporation

                     April 3, 1992, Friday, 11:07 a.m. EST

TIBETAN GROUP TO SETTLE IN CHICAGO UNDER PLAN CONCEIVED BY DALAI LAMA

United Press International

CHICAGO, APRIL 3

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Chicago, a city of many ethnic groups, readied for its first sizable group
of Tibetans, a report said Friday.

   About 100 Tibetans are to settle in the city under a plan conceived by the
dalai lama and approved by President Bush, the Chicago Sun-Times said.

   Once they are settled they are expected to send for their families to bring
the total of Tibetan immigrants to about 500.

   About 40 Tibetans have jobs waiting with the Hyatt Hotels. The rest will not
be allowed into the United States until they have found work.

   Gigi Pritzker Pucker, co-director of the Tibetan Resettlement Project, said
finding inexpensive housing is a problem. Pritzker Pucker is a member of the
Pritzker family, which owns the Hyatt chain.

   The Chinatown community has turned down the Tibetans because it has had an
influx of Chinese from Hong Kong. Uptown, a traditional neighborhood for foreign
arrivals, might become their home, she said.

   The dalai lama and 100,000 followers fled from Tibet in March 1959 after
savage attacks by the Chinese communists. He established a government-in-exile
in Dharamsala,  India.

   The Tibetan refugee population in camps in  India  and Nepal grow to 100,000,
much more than they could support. The dalai lama came up with a plan for some
to come to the United States. Two years ago, Bush signed a bill to grant visas
to 1,000 Tibetans in  India  and Nepal.

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Mead Data Central                               Systems & Product Technology
Bldg. VI, 9595 Springboro Pike                          udcrusd@meaddata.com
Miamisburg, Ohio 45342                                        (513) 865-6800   
                                               
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,rec.travel,dfw.general
From: rvm@seas.smu.edu (Rajluxmi V. Murthy)
Subject: Coupon exchange desired: Braniff with any other
Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Science; S.M.U.; Dallas, Tx
Distribution: dfw
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 01:54:31 GMT


Hello!
   I have a coupon for a free round trip ticket on Braniff. I would like
to travel to Cincinnati in the next couple of months. Unfortunately
Braniff does not travel there from DFW (only destinations from here are
Chicago-Midway, Orlando and Newark). I would therefore like to exchange
my coupon for another coupon on American, Delta, Northwest, Continental
or TWA. I would be willing to pay a little extra for the exchange.

The only restriction on my coupon is that the passenger must be female.
Preferably South Asian.

Please e-mail responses to rvm@csvax.seas.smu.edu 

Thank you.
Rajluxmi Murthy
From: fsjm@bart.lerc.nasa.gov (Joseph Mathew)
Subject: Re: H.1, H.4 questionnaire:
Keywords: H.1, H.4 multiple entry visa
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center, Cleveland, OH
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 21:16:11 GMT


	I went to Ottawa recently.  They accept applications every weekday
except Wednesday, from 8:30 till 12 am.  You can call the consulate
for a detailed recorded message, in case they change the days/hours.
I got a H-1, and my friend got an F-1 visa.  Unless you live in a
town that has a US consulate, this is about as easy/tiresome as getting
a visa in India.  Plus, no interminable waiting on the road from 6
in the morning.

	Since they do not have to issue these visas, we were the last
to be called (~ 1 pm), but the official was quite civilised and it
was sufficient to state that I did not want to go to Madras 
specifically for the visa.  My trip is for personal reasons, but you
might want to carry a letter about official trips, or whatever.  As
I said, he was quite civilised.  You do not have to get there bright
and early as they will accept applications till 12 and will not call
you any sooner.  I think we were the only ones in this 'category'.

	I would discourage you from going to Toronto.  You would need
to stand in line early on a Monday to get an appointment.  I don't
know whether they will give you an appointment for the same day.
Their tel. machine tells you nothing of use and no one will ever answer
the phone.


Joseph

fsjm@bart.lerc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mvishnu@morse.waterloo.edu (m vishnu)
Subject: Re: Forgeries of Hindu Texts
Originator: mvishnu@morse.waterloo.edu
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:48:25 GMT



In reply to Harish's posting:

The first part of my posting concerns with the book 'Gita As
it Was'(see below).  It was written by an Orissa author (probably not
a bramin) and he makes a lot of claims, not all of which convinces me either.
However, I suggest you read the introductory part of this text.

The second part of my text concerns with the historical fact (or fiction)
that Bramin priests locked up the Tamil 'Thevaram' from about 700 A.D to
about 1200 A.D.  Then the great Tamil king, Raja raja chOzan after a lot
of difficulty had access to these work.  Unfortuantely, a substantial
part of this work, which was written on palmera palm leaf were lost.
Raja raja cOzan employed Nambiyaandaar Nambi to get whatever, that could
be saved and made these hymns to be sung in Shiva temples all over
Tamil Nadu.  Even today, the descendants of these hymn singers (Othuvaar)
continue to sing these great hymns in the Temples.

It is alleged that the bramin priests wanted to purposely 
suppress a Tamil work of this magnitude and beauty, lest it destroy their
important position as a bridge between divinity and the masses. 
(If you can think of other reasons, please let me know)

The religion is a ladder for the upliftment of mankind.  Is it not better
if the prayers are conducted in a language familier to the masses ?
Sanskrit is a great languages, there are lot of brilliant works on it and
I would like to be fluent in it.  However, its use in Temples in senseless.
If religion is to have a greater impact on the people then it should have
meaning to them.

This is what the Nayanmaar and Azvaar attempted to do.  They wanted to bring
Shaivasm (and Vaishanaism) closer to home to the people of Tamil Nadu 
by composing hymns in Tamil.  This made common masses to participate in
                                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^
the religion, as opposed to simply looking at priest and the idol, and
the strange language (and often ill-pronounced by Tamil bramins) that is
flowing out of these priests.  This was an effective way
for turning the people who were converted to buddhism and Jainism back to
Shaivasim (and Vaishnavisam).

Think for a moment and you will realize that bramin priesthood has
reduced hinduism at the social level to a set of irrational mechanical rituals.

Thank You,

Meenan Vishnu

Books to  Read:
AUTHOR: Sinha, Phulgendra 1924
TITLE: The Gita as it was: rediscovering the original Bhagavadgita
IMPRINT: La Salle I11 Open Court 1987 c1986
ISBN: 0812690249 * 0812690257 (pbk)
CALL NO: BL1138.66.S57 1987
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: orath@supernet.dallas.haus.com (Omkar Rath)
Subject: Re: GUJJU JOKES - AN OBSERVATION
Keywords: GUJJU JOKES
Organization: Harris Adacom Corporation
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 15:39:36 GMT

atulpule@alfred.carleton.ca (Ajit Tulpule) writes:


>I dont know how far this is true, but looking at   all the

>controversy and bad temper about gujju jokes, I think that

>only those  who have ever  lived in  Bombay   and its free

>cosmopolitan environment can truely appreciate a "Gujju" joke.

Not really.  I am from Orissa and had heard Gujju jokes when I was about 12.
Albeit there are a few very good ones, it never really catches on.  Surprising-
ly the ones that we saw on the net were not the best ones.  But I guess u r
right.  Y'all in Bombay would be inventing one per day.



>Ajit.

>-----------------------------------------------
>        Ajit Tulpule

>email : atulpule@business.carleton.ca
>-----------------------------------------------


-- 
Omkar Rath
Harris Adacom Corp.
16001 Dallas Pkwy
Dallas, TX 75248
From: hg0j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Haresh Gurnani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: *** A New GUJJU Joke
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:19:23 GMT
Organization: Doctoral student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Another Gujju joke!  No offense meant.

Q. Why are Gujjus more likely to get Aids ?
A. 'cause they are fond of ``whore-licks''
Organization: Junior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA