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From: pashley@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Montykins)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Pussy Incident
Date: 22 Jan 93 00:23:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <930119202816.10a4@VAX.CSUN.EDU>, VBCSC03L@VAX.CSUN.EDU (snopes) writes:
>
>  Secondly, Monty has erred in the details.  Johnny's final show contained 
>  a clip of him and _Jane Fonda_ discussing the incident.

Actually, I realized that a couple days after I originally posted
thie article in question (back in August). But I figured that
posting a correction to my "definitive" posting would merely call
attention to my fallibility. So I left it alone.

This time around, I was all set to post essentially the same
article, but with the facts straight (well, somewhat less bent, at
kleast). But Terry beat me to it.

>
>  Maybe somebody should find out whether Zsa Zsa has even appeared on
>  "The Tonight Show".
>

Actually, I was just reflecting on the unlikeliness of a famous
golfer's wife ever having been a guest. It can't be all THAT
difficult to investigate.

 -Paul "Monty" Ashley
   (But, of course, that would mean putting forth some effort, as
opposed to sitting here and making pronouncements.)
-- 
" 'Socks the cat'? What is this?"
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: lawson@acuson.com (Drew Lawson)
Subject: Re: Diet (was No US President Ever Survived an Energy Crisis)
Reply-To: lawson@acuson.com (Drew Lawson)
Organization: ACUSON, Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 22:27:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.144732.18052@nntp.nta.no> styri@nta.no writes:

>(Nope, I don't know the number of lactase deficient eskimos.
> There's no lactose in milk from seals and walruses...)


I heard that eskimos have over 1000 words for seal milk.


Drew "but how do you get the pail UNDER them?" Lawson
-- 
Drew Lawson                      If you're not part of the solution,
lawson@acuson.com                you're part of the precipitate
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From: stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.music.misc
Subject: 54-40..what does their name mean?
Date: 25 Jan 1993 14:37:56 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

 I just always figured 54-40 was just some stupid band name (although
a decent band), when Al Bundy used the phrase "54-40 or fight" (not
in context, only as a sample phrase) on Married With Children.

So what the hell does it mean?

Steve
-- 
+-------------------------------------------------------------+
|  Steve Portigal  University of Guelph  Guelph, Ontario      |
|  stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (519) 824-4120 x 3580      |
|  "Oh Andy Capp, you wife-beating drunk!" - Homer Simpson    | 
+-------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: edm@gocart.twisto.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: John Denver (Re: Snipers at Stalingrad)
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp
	<1993Jan21.172301.15572@acuson.com>
	<JTCHEW-210193110257@b50-afrd5.lbl.gov> <C19FB9.CM5.2@cs.cmu.edu>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:56:51 GMT

>>>>> On 22 Jan 93 14:37:56 GMT, smith+@cs.cmu.edu (Sean Smith) said:
SS> Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
SS> Nntp-Posting-Host: theory.cs.cmu.edu

SS> In article <JTCHEW-210193110257@b50-afrd5.lbl.gov> JTCHEW@lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera) writes:

>As for John Denver, the folk singer, being a Marine sniper... Sheesh!

SS> Back in college (the first time), when crowds gathered nightly
SS> in the TV room to watch ``Jeopardy'' and ``Wheel of Fortune,'' the rumor
SS> spread that host Pat Sajak (no idea if I'm spelling that correctly) was
SS> a Drill Instructor in the Marines.

He was, though, a DJ for the Army ala _Good Morning Vietnam_.
--
Ed McCreary                                               ,__o
edm@gocart.eng.hou.compaq.com                           _-\_<,
"If it were not for laughter, there would be no Tao."  (*)/'(*)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,news.admin.misc
From: hoey@AIC.NRL.Navy.Mil (Dan Hoey)
Subject: Old news (was Re: Mnemonics...)
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:55:58 GMT

bwilson@austin.ibm.com (Brad Wilson) writes:
  +Now, I have a question ... [details deleted]

system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall) writes:
  +That doesn't seem likely, since .... [details deleted]

twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
  +Uh, Wayne, much as we appreciate your thoughts, but you know, Brad
  +posted this in December, and two famous people I know (well, maybe
  +1.5), Larry Doering and Derek Tearne posted replies... dated 11
  +December 1992 and 13 December 1992, respectively.  Are you having
  +like, a really slow feed down there? ...

It's worse than that.  Wayne posted his reply on 18 December 1992, and
it appeared on alt.folkore.urban that weekend.  But someone changed
the date to 27 January 1993 and reinjected it into the news stream.
They did that to nine other messages of his, too.  At least on AFU
Wayne seems to be the only victim.  In case you're interested, I
include the the message-ids and dates at the end of this message.  The
prime suspects are copper!mercury.cair.du.edu!mnemosyne.cs.du.edu,
since they all appear in the duplicates and don't appear in the
originals.

ObUL: Resubmitting old news with new dates is happening to the entire
contents of several newsgroups, all the time.  But the delay is
several years, so we don't recognize the duplicates, we just feel deja
vu.  Sometimes we are flami^Whaving discussions with people who have
left the net entirely, or even died.  Of course, with the rate of
increase in Usenet volume, a prior year's traffic is only a small
fraction of this year's.

Dan Hoey
Hoey@AIC.NRL.Navy.Mil
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From: bml@netcom.com (Brian Leibowitz)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Cuttin' the Rug
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:03:03 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)


>Evidently the quickest way to destroy an Oriental rug is to hang it on a wall.
>The knots loosen in a few years and the thing falls to pieces, while a rug i 
>steady use will last generations.
>

The dealer who sold me my Persian rug told me that there is no problem
hanging the rug on the wall (he is Turkish from a rug making and reparing
family - traditionaly the women weave the rugs and the men do repairs)
He also gives a lifetime repair guarentee on his rugs if anything loosens
up or tears, so I don't think he would have risked giving himself more
unpaid work by giving bad advice - the sale was already made when he told me
this.  My rug is woven, not notted - that may be the diference.  Furthermore,
he had many rugs hung in his own home - some very valuable (and beautiful!)

An interesting thing he mentioned is how the smugglers deal with the mine
fields on the Iran/Turkey border. (Iran does not permit rugs to be exported.)
The smugglers trade sheep for rugs so they drive the flock of sheep through
the minefield to clear the way (they loose a few, but it does a good job of
making a safe path through the minefield.)

Brian
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: AMUSING SIGNS
From: leb@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (BASEL, LESLIE)
Date: 23 Jan 1993 23:43 MST  
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

, vince@cadence.com (Vince Gibboni) writes...

> 
>  
>    "If Thomas Jefferson were alive today, I'd appoint him secretary of 
>    Education." - Bill Clinton                 (I'm not making this up).
                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Why would we think you were making this up?  Jefferson was a brilliant man
and had some good ideas about education including (REALLY BAD paraphrase 
begins) if we institute vocational, technical education we will raise a 
nation of slaves (I think he was warning that if you only know how to do
a job, with no understanding of history and literature, you can be controlled
too easiliy).

Rodger "don't post when it is too long after your bedtime" Coghlan


Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Jesus' Birthday
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:36:58 GMT

derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
: >: 
: >: No, you gored Bill's Blessed Bovine. An inquisitor will be knocking on your
: >: door shortly.
: >
: >Who? Terry? Derek? Ya wanna watch? It'll cost you two-fifty.
: 
: Remember, never taunt the Happy Fun Bull<tm>.
: 
: Derek "Noooobody expects the New Zealand inquisition" Tearne

Hey Derek. You gonna make it over for AFU West V? I am sure someone
would be willing to meet you at the airport.  We could have a scrum
to get the AFU Ball Game to a good kickoff.

Bill
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: gators 'r us
Subject: Re: doggie doodoo
	<H.eg.VeRId7PwtWg@harvee.billerica.ma.us>
	<1993Jan23.182329.18864@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.10 Rev. Dec 23 1992
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 10:24:32 -0400
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>>>
>>>Phil "Ancestor named Bengta" Gustafson
>>has anyone on the net ever had an ancestor with an unusual name?
>>(5 of my 8 great-grandfathers were named john.)
excuse me. i meant to say, 5 of my 8 great-great-grandfathers were named 
john.  sorry.

my great-grandfathers were named thomas, peter, elvin, and edward berton
(usually called "e.b.")

>There must have been alot of failed marriages in your family tree
>to have as many step-great-grandfathers as real ones.  Maybe Wayne
>could figure a marriage survival rate for your kin.
one set of my great-great grandparents(not one of the johns) left each other
in the 1870's, though they never legally divorced.  in the 1880 or 1900 us
census, i forget which, she said she was divorced and he said he was widowed.

one set of great-grandparents, one set of grandparents, my parents, and one
of my sisters has also been divorced, as well as my husband's parents and both
of my husband's sisters.  neither my husband's one brother, nor any of my 
brothers has ever been married.


sorry you asked?
-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: sweeney@Ingres.COM (Tony Sweeney)
Subject: Re: software kills
Reply-To: sweeney@Ingres.COM (Tony Sweeney)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:12:45 GMT

In article <C1D4GH.4nG@newcastle.ac.uk> S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk writes:
>Something similar to this happened at the Royal Devon and Exeter Hospital in (surprise)
>Exeter, Devon..  A friend of mine received a letter from the Hospital telling her that
>there was a problem with the settings of the X-Ray machine and that she should come back
>to the Hospital for a check to see if there was any long term damage.
>
The problem was that the doctor/X-ray tech was using a standard formula
for correcting the intensity based on distance from the part of the
patient being X-rayed and upping the dose accordingly. Unknown to her, 
the controller software in the X-ray machine had already done this
calculation, so she was effectively applying the same increase twice.
The "overdose" was in the 20-50% range.
>
>-- 
>EMAIL: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk   OR   scott@shrug.dur.ac.uk (NeXTmail)
>SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE
>SUN Computers:  "Nice chips, shame about her OS"
>"If a virtual tree falls in a virtual forest, does it make a virtual sound?"

Tony "can anyone smell burning?" Sweeney.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: wvhorn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William VanHorne)
Subject: Re: Arrested for travelling at the speed limit
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:29:33 GMT

In article <C1FGKK.2q7H@austin.ibm.com> jlpicard@austin.ibm.com writes:
>
>[tales of cops sweet talking/intimidating people into 
> signing search release forms deleted]
>
>Recently the police down here in Texas set up a roadblock
>on IH 35 going north from San Antonio. About a mile before
>the roadblock, there was a sign that said something like 
>"Drug Enforcement Roadblock - 1 Mile". The cops claim that
>they found several pounds of marijuana along the side of
>the road just past the sign.
>
>The question I have is this: how long will it be before
>refusing to sign a search "release" form is taken to be
>articulable reason or probable cause for a search?

According to a report I saw on CNN yesterday, the cops in Loosiana hit upon
the perfect scam.  They place a sign on the interstate saying: "Narcotics
Checkpoint Ahead 1 Mile", and then simply wait for cars that slam on their
brakes, whip around into u-turns, start tossing bags from windows, etc.
I guess they can state that such behavior is evidence enough for a search.

Actual roadblocks/checkpoints have apparently been ruled illegal by the 
Loosiana Supreme Court, so the cops don't actually have any checkpoints,
they just move the sign around.

---Bill "everything seen on CNN is true" VanHorne

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher)
Subject: Re: Little Mermaid Video - where's the naughty bit?
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:31:14 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.


>Maybe someone could pop a .gif file [of the LM video box phallus]
>onto the net. I mean, it would
>make a cracking background.

Please don't. Disney probably would sue everyone within reach if 
anyone were to do so. After all, these are the people who sue day 
care centers for painting Disney characters on their walls.
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Upside-down burglar
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:25:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.032043.25201@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
>lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>>
>>Does this have anything to do with the movie Annie Hall?  Woody is seen
>>talking to Shelly Duvall.  She says something to the effect of "sorry for
>>taking so long" and he responds with "I'll never play the trumpet again"?
>
>This Shelly Duvall woman, did she play Olive Oyl as a virgin,
>or an extra-virgin, in the movie _Popeye_.

I dunno, was she Italian or Spanish?
(In any case, was she high in monosaturates?)

>
>Jon "not pronounced Popeye" Papai
>......
>Television is called a medium because it is neither rare nor well done.
>--Ernie Kovack
         ^^^^^^
         Kovacs

Ernie Kovacs costarred in a 1957 movie called "Operation Mad Ball" with 
Jack Lemmon Kathryn Grant (Crosby).  Also appearing in the movie was
Mickey Rooney as a strange character known as Skibo.  (Note: this is *not*
a misspelling of KIBO or Ski-ball.)

He also appeared in the 1962 movie "Sail a Crooked Ship" with Robert Wagner
and Carolyn Jones (who costarred in the TV version of The Addams Family).

He also appeared in the 1960 movie "Our Man in Havana" with Alec Guiness and
Burl Ives.

While Ernie Kovacs never appeared in a Woody Allen film, Marshall McCluhan
did appear in Annie Hall, and would probably have many things to say about
what Ernie Kovacs did/said about TV.

cj "Marshall McCluhan, what're you doin!" l
From: kubo@birkhoff.harvard.edu (Tal Kubo)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Aramaic-speaking villages
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:23:17 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Math, Harvard Univ.

In article <1993Jan18.231434.16582@Princeton.EDU>
datepper@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Aaron Tepper) writes: 
>
>There are some villages in Lebanon and Syria that still speak Aramaic.

This is an Urban Legend.  They do not speak the same Aramaic as
in the Talmud in those villages. They speak a dialect of Syriac, 
which is a close relative, but is *not* the same.  The confusion 
is increased by the fact that the people from said villages 
call their native tongue "Aramaic" (i.e. their terminology doesn't
agree with that of philologists).

Not only was Aramaic long considered a dead language,
but it was a major discovery when archaeological evidence 
turned up, suggesting that it had once been a living vernacular 
and not just a rabbinic lingua franca.


Tal  kubo@math.harvard.edu
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Jesus' Birthday
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:52:10 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:

: Unfortunately I am feeling a little poor at the moment.  The doctor suggests
: that a quiet period with no foreign travel can work wonders for those sadly 
: stretched bank accounts.  I might be better in time for AFU West VIII though.
: The kick off will therefore have to be delayed until my wallet injury has 
: fully recovered.  Looking forward to it though.
: 
: Unless I get a lucrative offer of work + green card in the next couple of 
: weeks of course.  You are surrounded by fault lines, computers, tar pits 
: full of gooey animals and rock musicians.  There must be a niche for a 
: computer programming, bass playing geologist somewhere around there! 

Hm, what do we do if the ball falls into a fault fissure? The tar pits are
way South of here - are they in the playing field? What do we do if we end
up with a tar ball? How about a fur ball? Do we have a gerbil retrieve it?

We have not yet put up Concertina wire to keep the Californians out of the
state. We are thinking of imposing a $500/foot transit tax on travel homes
from California and Florida.

Maybe one of us will win the $10M PCH "lottery". Then we could hold an
AFU West session in NZ and fly everyone over.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: AFU West V
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:24:14 GMT

phil@rahul.net (Phil Gustafson) writes:
: In article <28585@dog.ee.lbl.gov> TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
: 
: >DAMN IT!  If you're going to post stuff like this and give
: >it away, at least put SPOILER WARNINGS IN THE SUBJECT LINE!
: 
: Rosebud was his sled.

Who's? Terry's?

Bill "I named mine Bud Light" Nelson

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: obrien@netcom.com (No parking EXCEPT FOR BOB)
Subject: Software kills, Take III
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:32:17 GMT

What about software that's *designed* to kill?

I worked for General Dynamics on F/FB-111 avionics for several years,
and also did a lot of stuff for the Navy A-12, now AX.

When the "storm" broke out, some of the video CNN showed, from F-111's
equipped with the PAVE TACK infrared pod, had some details about it
that looked awfully familiar.

So, I wrote software that killed people numbering into the hundreds, for sure.
At least, I was part of one of many teams that did so.

	Bob "harrumph" O'Bob
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From: hatunen@netcom.com (David W Hatunen)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: 54-40..what does their name mean?
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:07:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1993Jan25.220739.1686
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <9301252032.AA21973@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca> stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal) writes:
>
> I just always figured 54-40 was just some stupid band name (although
>a decent band), when Al Bundy used the phrase "54-40 or fight" (not
>in context, only as a sample phrase) on Married With Children.
>
>So what the hell does it mean?
>
>Steve
>-- 
>+-------------------------------------------------------------+
>|  Steve Portigal  University of Guelph  Guelph, Ontario      |
>|  stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (519) 824-4120 x 3580      |
>|  "Oh Andy Capp, you wife-beating drunk!" - Homer Simpson    | 
>+-------------------------------------------------------------+

I guess Canadians are taught a different North American
history. Understandably. 

As all US-type North Americans are supposed to know, 54-40
or fight refers to the British-US conflict over the border
between the US Oregon Territory and what is now Canada.
54-40 refers to the 54 degrees 40 minutes of latitude line
advocated by US jingos as the only right and proper
boundary. Eventually everyone settled on the 49th parallel
now forming the boundary between BC and Washington state.

And peace continued to reign over the US and British
North America.

It would have been kind of nice to have Vancouver BC
in the States though.
-- 
--------- DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen@netcom.com) ----------
----- Daly City California: almost San Francisco -----
From: Larry.Mc.Donald@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: peace symbol
X-Sender: newtout 0.06 Jan  3 1993
Date: 26 Jan 93  16:46:02

haefner@infonode.ingr.com (Mark W. Haefner) writes:
 
> Recently several articles have been on the ankh and I thought I would
> ask if anyone has information on where the "peace symbol" is derived 
> from. I have heard that its origins are occultic and was used by some 
> ancient pagan societies. Is this true? If so, who? Anyone care to  
> offer some reliable info?

I read an article in the "Peace Conversion Times" about two years 
ago on the origin of the peace symbol. It was concieved (and 
copyrighted) in the late '50s by a commercial artist for use in a 
nuclear disarment rally.  The symbol is supposed to be based on 
the semafore signals for N and D, Nuclear Disarmament.  It was 
also supposed to look somewhat like a person with his arms 
extended downward, kind of depressed, since that is what the 
artist felt about the world situation at the time.
  The artist, who was interviewed for the article, went on to say 
that he felt disgusted to see the new generation of 'punks' 
wearing his nuclear disarment symbol, since those types are so 
violent and have no idea what the history of the symbol is.
  I have misplaced the original article, but I do still have it.  
If it's important to you, I'll dig it up and post.

  At one time I found a pamphlet from a radical religious group 
claiming, with all of the evidence one would come to expect from 
religious folk, that it was an ancient occult symbol.  




... Larry.Mc.Donald, N6ZMB, Fullerton, California!  <cough, cough>
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10

--- Maximus 2.01wb