From: arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling)
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Subject: Re: Schmidling is simply wrong.
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:14:34 GMT
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 Fri, 24 Jul 1992 02:42:24 GMT  alt.rush-limbaugh            Thread    1 of  150
 Article 3650            Schmidling is simply wrong.         No responses
 nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu      Russ Nelson at Clarkson University, Potsdam NY
 
 In article <1992Jul22.051632.5324@ddsw1.mcs.com> arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidl
 ing) writes:
 
 >Anybody notice how the issue got switched from the Friends of Israel
 >programming Rush to prayer in school?
 
 <Jack Schmidling constantly complains that the Jews have too 
 much influence in America. 
 
 ARF says:
 
 I have never stated anything like that.  I have repeatedly 
 complained about the distortion in the media and the 
 corruption of Congress by the "Friends of Israel" or 
 Israelists as I choose to call them.
 
 To suggest that all the "Friends of Israel" in Congress, 
 (which is about 99% of Congress)  are Jews is absurd.
 
 > If that is the case, then why did they get their loan 
 guarantees turned down? 
 
 ARF says:
 
 Refusing another $10 billion on top of the $78 billion 
 already bilked from American taxpayers is hardly proof 
 against "too much influence".  Just what exactly is too 
 much?  They are one of the smallest countries in the world 
 and yet they get most of the foreign aid from one of the 
 largest.   You used the words "too much", I call it utter 
 corruption.
 
 But to answer your question, you need only look at what is 
 going on now.  Bush was obviously saving that carrot for the 
 election season.  It is all but a done deal.  All that we 
 are waiting for is the up coming photo op with Rabin.  
 Unfortunately, he is going to find out that, as Baker 
 stated, "they don't vote for us anyway".  He is throwing out 
 the only thing he did while in office that showed some 
 character.
 
 >Jack Schmidling constantly complains that the Jews control 
 the media in America.  Yes, Jews are prominent in American 
 media.  However, it is well known (or *should* be well 
 known) that advertisers indirectly dictate editorial 
 content.  And who advertises in the New York Times
 (and other Jew-controlled media)?  Lots of non-Zionist 
 companies.
 
 ARF says:
 
 First of all, you insist on injecting the word "JEW" in this 
 discussion to smear me as an antisemite.  But all you do is 
 force me to waste energy repeating the tired old rebuttals.  
 Rather that do that, I simply suggest readers translate your 
 word back into mine, i.e. Israelists.  That is, people who 
 support Israel, unconditionally.
 
 The answer to your statment is that Israelists can and do 
 boycott or threaten to boycott ANY advertiser or medium that 
 does not support Israel.
 
 Now, please tell me what YOU mean about Jews being prominent 
 in the American media.   Do you mean that somewhat more than 
 the 3% Jews represent in the population are involved in the 
 media?  Do you mean 93%?  Just what do you mean by 
 prominent?  And furthermore, why is it important to point 
 this out?
 
 >For more information on why the Jews deserve security and 
 the Palistinians deserve a country, contact Stephen Zunes, 
 Executive Director of the Institute for a New Middle East 
 Policy, P.O. Box 10898, Bainbridge Island, WA 98110.
 
 ARF says:
 
 Don't know if I will get around to doing this but I would be 
 curious to know why the Palestinians have no need for 
 security.  It is also obvious that Israel, as one of the 
 most powerful military forces in the world, has  little to 
 be concerned with when it comes to security.  It is simply a 
 canard for continual hate mongering and military buildup to 
 threaten its neighbors.  When is enough, enough?
 
 arf
 
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