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From: aumentad@aludra.usc.edu (SUPERGROVER)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: Beasties
Date: 14 Dec 1992 10:27:07 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <92347.114759TH5733A@auvm.american.edu> Thomas G. Hopkins <TH5733A@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>The Fugazi video features the song Steady Diet of Nothing, the instrumental
>song off their last album. All skate footage is new, from the freedom plaza
>here in D.C.


WHAT FUGAZI VIDEO?  i guess i missed out on the original post... someone
can be nice and inform me right?

while i'm at it, i have to add a few extra lines to this message cause
my fucked up mailer wont mail this message unless it's longer than what
i
am quoting.  sucks doesn't it?


joe
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: mcoffin@reed.edu (Miguel De Laguna)
Subject: Re: Seasons
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:08:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.183134.23861@pellns.alleg.edu> goetzj@pell4l5.alleg.edu (Justin Goetz) writes:
>People who live California shouldn't brag about nice weather. If you live  
>where it's cold then you can bitch all you want about the weather.  
>Otherwise, shut     
			Justin

   Right Arm Justin!  I grew up skating in SoCal (got my firt board as a
five year old, had clay wheels...) and noe I'm in Portland Oregon, and it is
fucking snowing right now.  Yea, we all know you can skate all the time
there so shut up.  Us expatriots get jealous.

		-Miguel
From: turnert@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Crimson Labia)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: New Vids and Philly stuff
Date: 18 Dec 92 03:35:55 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Newsgroups: alt.skateboard
Subject: New Videos
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Keywords: 

Wassup, this is my first post to the news group, but I've been reading for a while.  To get to the point, WI lied to everyone the new Blind and 101 full lengths won't be out until after the new year.  Although they say the REAL vid is out I can't find it anywhere in Philly, maybe it's in your town.  This weekend I'll be getting the new Planet Earth (13 mins. long) it seems to be the trend to make your video as short as possible and not feature all your skaters.  I got  some  powell arnold palmers (103 hard



 as hell) I hear they don't flat spot, I'll be trying them after  the new year, hopefully on a brand new Josh Beagle (I just found one of his decks.)  He's only one the hottest shoes on the block if you haven't heard of him.  Expect 777 models for Philly local skaters Matt Reason and Ricky Oyola with Love Park theme graphics (East Coasters who have been here had better know what Love is).  If your looking for rad curbs and have never been to Philly come check out the Rat Curbs, you'll go home happy!  Don't



 come to love park if you're:

          1.  By yourself and know no one there.
     	  2.  Have a brand knew board that you want to show off
 	  3.  Are a white kid (or group of white kids) who can't fight

The Rat Boys (local skaters, I sometimes wonder if they do anything else!?) will snatch your board if they get a chance and they don't like you....

See Ya 
The Crimson Labia
(This fucking ugly Plan B settup I got just won't break!?!?!?!?!)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: dtauzell@plains (David Tauzell)
Subject: Skaters asexual or not.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:43:23 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


In the new Sassy magazine there is an article calle "Skaters asexual or
not". When you buy this magazine you also get another magazine for free
and that one is called "Dirt" guys version of Sassy.Well any ways in Sassy
it basicaly made a bad name for skaters every where.It does this by saying
numerous things ->
                 1.on the scale of one to ten skaters rate sex at a low 3.
                   What????   
                 2.it also says that it is typical of skaters to scrounch
                 meals of chics.Where do they get this info.  
                 3.then it goes on and says that we skaters prefer one
                   ninght stands.Get serious its the nineties not the 70's  
                 4.Then the thig that irritated me the most is that the
                   author sums up at the end and says "Skaters are not
                   worth it".
    Now I think someone should write in to Sassy and bitch at the chic
that wrote that BS.
    As I was saying about the Dirt magazine.This has a interview with the
ever popular guy Steve Rocco.very intersting artical.And for those of you
who are ex freestylers it has a 3 page thing on Matt Hoffman.
           One last thing has any else broken two decks in one night with
out the intent of breaking them. I broke my Lotti and my friend's Henry
Sanchas oops.          
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: juggle@athena.mit.edu (furious axe demon)
Subject: Re: Raves (was Re: A good question...)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:14:00 GMT

In article <BzBD5u.Cnp@monitor.com> michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson) writes:

>Don't they play, like, bad music at raves?  What did they play?  Raves sound  
>stupid to me--like someone came up with a name for something that people  
>already did, namely clubbing all night.


The only thing I'll club all night is a pack of baby seals.

Speaking of silly pop music. . .

With the upsurgence of Metallica, anyone know if Zorlac still makes
those Metallica decks?

Did ya all know that Izzy Stradlin formerly of Guns and Posers fames used
to skate vert?

Too cool, eh?

	-juggle-
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: dtauzell@plains (David Tauzell)
Subject: Re: Gene Evans is a poser!
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:46:17 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

You can just fuck off Jon.  That's all I will say.  I would encourage
anyone to send lots of junk mail to Jon for even suggesting something like
that.
From: sralsto@eis.calstate.edu (Scott)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: Beasties
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:12:47 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Heh... one of the funniest things I ever saw was on EmptyV sports where
they had a Beastie Boys section with them skating.  MCA had an old-school
no-nose board and was trying to successfully roll off of this 2 foot
loading dock thing.  He failed a couple of times, but then he finally
pulled it and was overjoyed.. :)  It was pretty funny, provided you were a
skater (I guess you had to be there.)
From: sralsto@eis.calstate.edu (Scott)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: Snow sucks!
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:56:58 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Damn.. I'm sorry :)

I had one of those days skating today where everything clicked. 
Everything felt so clean and perfect.  I fell about five times, on my back
or my side, really falling, but I didn't really get hurt and it felt
really good to roll around a bit :)  I was playing around with backside
180 to backwards 50/50 to shoveit-kickflip off and even pulled one.  It's
fun to go out and experiment..

And a few days back my friends and I spotted these ~20 foot long light
post girder things that were slick as ice with brown paint... they were
rounded square shpaed.  They were all stacked on curbs in this newly
constructed college parking lot, so we line em up and boardslid until we
dropped... it was so fun, they were unimaginably smooth.
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: goetzj@pell4l20 (Justin Goetz)
Subject: writing
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:54:49 GMT

I'm writing a paper that's due tommorrow. I'd rather be skating. Oh, well  
I get to go home soon to skate and not have to write stupid shit. I'm  
getting a new board and wheels for Christmas. I got an A- on my economics  
project. Life is good.

					Justin
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: byron@athena.mit.edu (Jack Miller)
Subject: Re: Hmm..
Organization: SKaters At Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 05:35:03 GMT

In article <Bz8Dou.8no@eis.calstate.edu> sralsto@eis.calstate.edu (Scott) writes:
>I advise everybody out there to leave your dwelling at this moment and
>zest a curb.  Just make sure the soap's not soggy.. then the whole thing
>back-fires.

	Why Zest, particularly?  Did I miss an explanation?  (I often
seem to miss messages at this site.)  Is it somehow better than, say,
Ivory?  I mean, yeah, it would rinse cleaner I guess, but who the hell
cares?

	``Hey, don't skate that curb, it's got SOAP SCUM on it!!!
Skate THIS one, it's ZEST-FULLY CLEAN!!!!''

			--Halloween Jack, stickin with wax for now
From: hexonxon@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Mark Goldstein)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: twanked and danked dude
Date: 12 Dec 92 03:36:08 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

so i Kostin-grind-to-nose-slide-to-varial on the curb right in front of this 
nice chicky with the big duel-ee! i pulled it off but the bitch wasn't
impressed...she wasn't impressed at all nonononononono.
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: hexonxon@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Mark Goldstein)
Subject: Re: ........
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:57:35 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <Bz8IAK.Ewr@ns1.nodak.edu> jhalvers@plains (Jon Halverson) writes:
>But do you have to skate to dress like one?
>
>jh


i just like to wear dresses when i skate...
From: rachim_t1@verifone.com
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: guess who I met?
Date: 18 Dec 92 13:27:44 -1000
Organization: VeriFone Inc., Honolulu HI

I bumped into a savageslamming guy in the pit at a recent show.  I spotted the
tatooo on the back of his neck:  100% SKATEBOARDER
could it be?
yes it was!
the legendary Jay Adams!

talked to him after the show- he moved out here to surf and skate the infamous
Wallos and other Hawaiian Death Ditches

nice guy.very weird.
very psycho, actually.
see  the '76 pic of him in the latest Thrasher

oh, I'm in Hawaii, btw

and fyi, my good friend Jeff Hartsell has returned to live here. dreads down
his back. jahlove. still skates the same (old style).
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: jhalvers@plains (Jon Halverson)
Subject: Gene Evans is a poser!
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:11:57 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


BBBLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCHHHHHHH!
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 11:47:59 EST
From: Thomas G. Hopkins <TH5733A@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: Beasties
 <92346.165552TH5733A@auvm.american.edu>
 <1992Dec12.073723.12515@athena.mit.edu>

The Fugazi video features the song Steady Diet of Nothing, the instrumental
song off their last album. All skate footage is new, from the freedom plaza
here in D.C.
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: hexonxon@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Mark Goldstein)
Subject: blah.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:36:13 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

i have never been as bored in my entire life as i am right now.
my roommate went to boulder.
everyone is studying.
it's cold as fuck outside.

Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: goetzj@pell4l20 (Justin Goetz)
Subject: Not having much to do with skating
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:47:48 GMT

I was working on my paper tonight and I kind of missed the sports on the  
11 o'clock news. I would be really stoked if someone would send me the  
score for the Laker game(if there was one, that's how out of touch I am  
with reality at college) or the score from last night. Also could you send  
me an update on how the San Jose Sharks are doing(last game or  
two,won-lost record(I'm assuming that they are still in last)). I haven't  
heard anything about them in forever.Oh, yeah who played on Monday Night  
Football and what was the score?

E-mail:
		goetzj@alleg.edu

				Thanks,
				Justin

P.S. I know most skaters aren't into team or professional sports  but I  
am, just like Justin Girard and Jovantee Turner.
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: hexonxon@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Mark Goldstein)
Subject: new school dude
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 06:32:14 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

i pulled a really awesome boneless today. nice, huh?

mark.
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Arnold Palmers, McEnroes..
From: sralsto@eis.calstate.edu (Scott)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:04:20 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

etc.  I really wonder what those new Powell clear wheels are like.  I
think I'll get some with various Christmas cash... 103 hardness soudns too
good to be true.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:00:44 EST
From: <AJV107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: A good question...

Sheffey says:
             My name's Pinky,
             Pinky Tuscadero.(sp)
He is refering to a charicter on HAPPY DAYS.
You guys don't watch enough TV.
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Seasons
From: sralsto@eis.calstate.edu (Scott)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:12:51 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Heh.. why don't you just pack up and move to somewhere where there aren't
any seasons?  Works for me :)
From: ta10+@andrew.cmu.edu (Timothy J. Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
Subject: Re: Hello from Me
Date: 20 Dec 92 21:02:31 GMT
Organization: University Libraries - Public Services, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hey joro, nice to see another acenite here! I'll
join your New Year's resolution.

(My resolution sometimes seems a little fuzzy at 72 dpi,
but it'll have to do;)

tim 
(often the one behind <cmu> on acen)
Organization: Studio for Creative Inquiry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 15:23:19 -0500 
From: Carl Loeffler <cel+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Schedules...

STUDIO FOR CREATIVE INQUIRY
Carnegie Mellon University
                               
Announcing: 
              
In addition to welcoming the New Year, Carl Eugene Loeffler, will 
conduct presentations on the subject of NETWORKED VIRTUAL REALITY at the
following:
                
Finland-
VIRTUAL REALITY SEMINAR, Hypermedia Laboratory, University of Tampere,
and the Museum of Contemporary Art, Helsinki.
                
Norway-         
TELEMATIC SEMINAR 92, hosted by the Norwegian Telecom  Research
Institute, Kjeller/Oslo.
                
Sweden-         
5Th MULTI-G WORKSHOP, hosted by the Interaction and Presentation
Laboratory, Royal Institute of Technology (KTH),Stockholm.
                
Carl Eugene Loeffler, is Project Director, Telecommunications and
Virtual Reality, STUDIO FOR CREATIVE INQUIRY,  Carnegie Mellon 
University.  The project investigates the a basis for multiple         
users located in distant geographical locations, to be conjoined  in the
same virtual, immersion environment.  The project employs
telecommunication hardware, as well as the hardware associated with
virtual reality: head mounted display and  multi-directional navigation
devices, and utilizes WorldToolKit, a virtual world development program,
available from Sense8 Corporation.  
                       
The first technical demonstration of the project was conducted last
September, by presenting the NETWORKED VIRTUAL ART MUSEUM conjoined
between CMU and the EXPEDITION 92 conference, Munich, Germany. 
 
               
While a recent presentation for the Ford Motor Company, Michigan,
featured  a technical demonstration of networked virtual reality, with
specific applications for design processes.
                
Current lectures on the project were conducted at: THIRD         
INTERNATIONAL SYMPOSIUM OF ELECTRONIC ART (TISEA), Sydney, Australia; AI
IN MEDIA CONFERENCE, Nagoya, and the MULTIMEDIA SEMINAR, Hokkaido
University, Sapporo; Japan;  EDUCOM, and the NATIONAL COMMUNICATIONS
FORUM, United States.
                
In Feburary Loeffler will present lectures at the College Art
Association (CAA), and universities in Michigan and Arizona. He will
also  conduct activities in Tokyo, Japan.
                       
FOR INFORMATION:        
Carl Eugene Loeffler        
Project Director        
Telecommunications and Virtual Reality        
Studio for Creative Inquiry        
College of Fine Arts        
Carnegie Mellon University        
Tel: (412) 268-3452        
FAX: (412) 268-2829        
Email: cel@andrew.cmu.edu
From: kmcgee@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
Subject: Immediasts/Seizing the Media
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 13:46:44 PST
Reply-To: kmcgee@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Has anyone on here read the "Seizing the Media" pamphlet by Greg Ruggerio 
for the Immediast underground?  Looking for others interested in trading 
mail art, liberation of public space from advertising, etc.


__________________________________________________________________________
   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N            [ kmcgee@cyberden.sf.ca.us ]
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
From: joro@panix.com (Joe Rosen)
Subject: Re: Hello from Me
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 07:55:12 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

In <724806108snz@ukartnet.demon.co.uk> ivan@ukartnet.demon.co.uk (Ivan Pope) writes:


>This is a quick test posting. Sorry.



      it worked...

would be cool to start seein' this space become as interesting as some
of the conversation threads i've seen develop in:

                the artcom electronic network on the WELL


gonna make it a goal in the comin' year to do my part to help make this
newsgroup come to up to speed with some of the neat stuff i've seen talked
about in the same space on the WELL...

      gee ! i sound ever so corny (forgive me but i become sentimental
when it comes to matters 'o art com as i am a fan).



     -- joro@panix.com --





Newsgroups: alt.artcom
From: whorfin@pixar.com (Rick Sayre)
Subject: Robotic Opera in San Francisco
Organization: Pixar -- Point Richmond, California
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:59:48 GMT

Trigram:  A Robotic Opera

Trigram is a performance of computer controlled robotic musical sculptures;
newly invented instruments modeled after the inner forms of the human
body.  A group of musicians, singers and dancers interact with the sculptures
and musical props to create a sequence of actions that unfold within a musical
structure.

Bruce Darby:  		Chico MacMurtrie:	Rick Sayre:
 Musical Director	 Artistic Director	 Technical Director

Software Score and Robotic Motion:
	Phillip Roberstson

Written by:
	Bruce Darby

Computer Animation:
	Rick Sayre

Lighting Design:
	Christopher Fleming

Musicians and Singers:
	Pati Airey, Beth Brown, Eva Festa, Patricia Gay, Hal Hughes,
	Emi Kavoto, Bill Quinn, Jason Ranier, Mike Shannon, Peter Whitehead

Roles Developed and Performed by:
	Nao Bustamante, Hannah Sim, Mark Steger

At Theater Artaud
450 Florida Street at 17th in SF
December 10-20
Thursday through Sunday at 8:30pm; $10 Thursday, $14 Friday through Sundays
$2 off if purchased 24 hours in advance
Tickets:	(415) 621-7797
Organization: University Libraries - Public Services, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:01:53 -0500 
From: "Timothy J. Anderson" <ta10+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: AD HOC - Space in Venice

AD HOC

Did you know you have a space in Venice?

In Venice there is a vast garden containing twenty-eight buildings of
radically different architectural style.  This spectacular waterfront
property remains vacant and wasted for the majority of the time - closed
with a stone gate that you can jump over - except for a single event
held in the summer every two years.  This garden belongs to the state of
Italy but each building is owned by the country that designed and built
it.  This is a place originally dedicated to international communication
and exchange through the language of art.  It is currently inhabited
only by cats and insects.

What if we open the stone gate?

We are asking you to consider your position in relation to your
country's pavillion.  Who has the key?  What if artists in each country
take responsibility to activate their own pavillion when it is usually
closed?  Maybe this year two pavillions will be opened, maybe next year,
five, and the year after that, fifteen.

You are invited to act.

Send this letter to others.  Ask questions.  Contact Ad Hoc to find a
representative in your country.  Your interaction can initiate an
irresistible change in the use of the Biennale garden.  Rather than a
display cabinet for state controlled art politics, it can become a place
for experiment and creative exchange.

AD HOC representatives in countries with pavillions:
Austria:
Belgium:
USSR (sic):
Egypt:
Denmark:
Great Britain:
Brasil:
Canada:
France:
Japan:
Greece:
Iceland:
Israel:
Italy: San Marco 1776, Venice, 30124 - phone/fax: 39-41-5234615
Yugoslavia (sic):
Netherlands:
Finland:
Norway:
Sweden:
Poland:
Federal Republic of Germany (sic):
Rumania:
Spain:
United States: 7002 N. Clark St., Chicago, IL, 60626 - phone/fax: 312-761-7144
Switzerland:
Uruguay:
Hungary:
Venezuela:

If your country does not have a pavillion, contact someone in a country
that is not yet represented.  

For more information, contact AD HOC in Chicago at 7002 N. Clark St.,
Chicago, IL, 60626 - phone/fax: 312-761-7144 or AD HOC in Venice at San
Marco 1776, Venice, 30124 - phone/fax: 39-41-5234615.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:23:05 EST
From: <HRL@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
Subject: Current ideas in sculpture for architecture

I am a fifth year architecture student at Penn State currently working on
a thesis involving the relationship of sculpture and architecture.  I would
appreciate any feedback about that relationship, specifically with current
technologies that are becoming part of sculpture.

PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO HRL....REPLY TO MTP@PSUARCH2

Thanks
Michael

Newsgroups: alt.artcom
From: ivan@ukartnet.demon.co.uk (Ivan Pope)
Subject: Hello from Me
Distribution: world
Organization: UK ArtNet Project
Reply-To: ivan@ukartnet.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:01:48 +0000

This is a quick test posting. Sorry.
Newsgroups: alt.who.is.bob,alt.slack
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Re: Where are the respondants?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:24:49 GMT


cut this pink-ass cascading you worthless cum stains on the sheets of the
con. alt.slack is not alt.cascade.

normally i would say "OR kill me" but if you are a cascader i suggest you
kill yourself before getting around to me.

Newsgroups: alt.who.is.bob,alt.slack
From: michael@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Michael George Williams)
Subject: Re: Where are the respondants?
Organization: University of North Carolina
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:02:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.212449.11151@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>
>cut this pink-ass cascading you worthless cum stains on the sheets of the
>con. alt.slack is not alt.cascade.

Is he speaking of us?  I'm afraid I don't know what a cascade is, but if
it is the harmless humor we've been indulging in, then SHOOT US BECAUSE WE
SHALL CERTAINLY BURN IN HELL ANYWAY.  Oh, yes, expect meaningfulness from
a group called alt.who.is.bob!  Doesn't that newsgroup name just scream
deep philosophical thought and solutions for all the world's problems? 
Yes, we are so vile for escaping the cruelty of the world long enough to
post a sentence-worth of bandwidth and then go our merry way.  Stupid git.

Of course, if I'm wrong, my most sincere apologies and please ignore
completely what I've said.  Thank y'all so much.

Michael

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