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From: f33012l@puukko.hut.fi (Janne Kivel{)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Swede-bashing
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:59:40 GMT
Reply-To: f33012l@puukko.hut.fi (Janne Kivel{)
Distribution: soc
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

etxmow@garboc34.ericsson.se (Mats Winberg) writes:
>The claim that Sweden is the most "racist" of the Scandinavian countries
>is outrageous. At years end we'll have received approximately a hundred 
>thousand
>refugees this year alone. A majority of those will probably be allowed to 
>stay on humanitarian grounds although there has been talk about being
>more restrictive. How many will Finland and Norway let in during 1992?

The official hypocrisy of Swedish authorities meant that everyone who
claimed to be a refugee was let in. This was OK, since Swedish society
had use of the work force and no significant problems arose, since there
were jobs for everyone. It will be interesting to see what happens now.
Is the recession-hit Sweden willing to accept more refugees or are 
doors going to be shut down?

>Should we also have road-signs in Serbo-Croatian? In Somali (I don't
>even know what language they speak)? The difference between Finland and
>Sweden is that Finland has, due to her own policy, only one large
>minority, the Swedish-speaking, whereas we have many.I would claim that
>there are few nations that treat their minorities so benevolently as
>Sweden. How many countries have state-subsided home language education?

Yes, that is really admirable and shows how rich a country Sweden is.

But it pisses me off to pay for SVT programs here in Helsinki area. 
The channel is called TV4 (not the same commercial TV4 as in Sweden) and
the programs are crap consisting of Cafe programs and Nyheter p} 
Serbokroatiska. This is the price we have to pay so that Finnish immigrants
in Stockholm area could watch Finnish TV.

>Serbo-Croatian one? A Finnish TV-station, fine with me, if it's
>private-owned. If there were miscontent among the Finnish-speakers why
>don't they start a party and try to change the system. To the best of my
>knowledge no efforts have been made in that direction.

There is no need for a Finnish TV-station. The Finnish Swedes in \sterbotten
are quite content of watching Swedish television (SVT) so why couldn't the 
Finns in Sweden just settle for Finnish TV (Yle).

      "N{m{kin pusakat vain viisysiysi. Ja kaikista valtakunnan..."
                     ----- Simo vaatehuoneelta
From: d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se (Bertil Jonell)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: T}rnedalen, Finlands 18th Province
Date: 4 Nov 92 08:47:38 GMT
Organization: Chalmers Tekniska Lekskola, G|teborg, G|taland


  "You're a Finn!"
						"No I'm not!"
  "Yes you are, trust me I know!"
						"How can you know what I am!"
  "Because I do, now shuddup and be Finnish!"

-bertil-
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 strange religion there exists a proponent on the Net. The proof is left as an
 exercise for your kill-file."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: jafitv@termo.unit.no (Jan Arne Fagertun)
Subject: Re: President Clinton!
Reply-To: jafitv@termo.unit.no (Jan Arne Fagertun)
Organization: SINTEF, Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 08:59:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.170138.21837@eua.ericsson.se>, etxjpll@eua.ericsson.se (Peter Lund) writes:
|> 
|> All of us are not leaning to the left and enjoying the memory of -68. My 
|> younger generation is more open-minded than that. To hear something like 
|> "bad old imperiailist US" you have to go to the far left (the communists 
|> ~3-4% in Sweden). 


Fortunately I think you're wrong !


|> 
|> Yes, I would like US to continue beeing the world's policeman. No-one else 
|> can play that character.


Those of us who are able to remember some of what has happened, and who
are able to use the brain to other things than just separate the ears
(for instance to think), do not want any single nation or small group
of nations to act as the world's policeman in the way USA has done.
And surely you'll find more than just communists in this (large) group
of people.

On the other hand, many of those who call themselves communists do not
fit into this group - they regret that Soviet can't play the
policeman's role.

In this issue I think you and those communists unite.


|> 
|> Peter Lund,	mail: Peter.Lund@eua.ericsson.se
|> Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
|> 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: euafri@eua.ericsson.se (Fredrik stman)
Subject: Re: Finns and Swedes and soc.culture.nordi
Reply-To: euafri@eua.ericsson.se
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:44:13 GMT

Kjell Siimon writes:

>(I also think it would be much more fun to fight
>and argu with Stockholmers)   ;-)

 va vssaru om, ta  tagga ner en smula, va!

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen)
Subject: Re: Assimilationspolitik av finnar i Sverige
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
	<TORKEL.92Nov3211817@bast.sics.se> <1d7tqsINNruu@cs.tut.fi>
	<1992Nov4.082306.9475@ugle.unit.no> <1992Nov4.190950.6255@nntp.hut.fi>
	<TORKEL.92Nov4214732@echnaton.sics.se>
	<1992Nov4.225358.9995@nntp.hut.fi>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 06:24:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.225358.9995@nntp.hut.fi> jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
 writes:

   >With regards to whether they have the right to speak their mother
   >tongue, yes, it is altogether irrelevant what they call themselves.

  A most profound statement. But to return to the topic, do you think it
is irrelevant to the question whether "the Finns of Tornedalen" are being
"oppressed" what the people who actually live in Tornedalen say and think
about who and what they are, how they live, how they want to live?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: mtf@saha.hut.fi (dalens ande)
Subject: Re: The Finns, an opressed minority in Sweden
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:11:36 GMT

> : Regards,
> Jarmo Ryyti
> : En Finne igen
> :
> : And greetings for all swedish Finnish haters!

 I hate you and I'm a finn (not even a Finland-swede). Does that make 
me a racist?

 Jarmo, you are paranoid (and plain mad). Please get a clue somewhere.
And stop harrassing innocent people.
--
Antti Lahelma			GNOTHI SEAUTON       "Common sense is what
mtf@saha.hut.fi  		====== =======        tells you the world
stel@purkki.apu.fi		 TUNNE ITSESI		   is flat."
From: ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Swede-bashing
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:57:25 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.nordic
Distribution: soc
Organization: Apple

In article <1992Nov5.155940.24084@cs.hut.fi>, f33012l@puukko.hut.fi (Janne
Kivel{) wrote:
> But it pisses me off to pay for SVT programs here in Helsinki area. 
> The channel is called TV4 (not the same commercial TV4 as in Sweden) and
> the programs are crap consisting of Cafe programs and Nyheter p} 
> Serbokroatiska. This is the price we have to pay so that Finnish immigrants
> in Stockholm area could watch Finnish TV.

Hehehe, if you don't like it, just don't watch it!

> There is no need for a Finnish TV-station. The Finnish Swedes in \sterbotten
> are quite content of watching Swedish television (SVT) so why couldn't the 
> Finns in Sweden just settle for Finnish TV (Yle).

Note that the finnish-swedes produce TV programs that are shown
on the Finnish TV stations, in most cases with Finnish subtitles as well.

Kent
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: MICHAEL.WILLETT@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Michael Willett")
Subject: Scandinavian Festival Takes Place in Massachusetts
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:30:10 GMT

This past Saturday our Scandinavian Festival took place
at the Topsfield fairgrounds here in Massachusetts.  The
highlights included two performances by the Birka Scandinavian
dancers.  They did the Weavers' Dance, the Norwegian Chimney
Sweep Dance, and the Swedish Windmill Dance, along with a Finnish
dance and another new one they just learned.  The food was quite
good too.

The dancers' next performance will be at the November 27 Lucia
festival in nearby Hamilton, Mass.
From: ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Pakkoruotsi Suomen kouluissa
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:46:19 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.nordic
Organization: Apple

In article <1992Nov11.181412.3455@nntp.hut.fi>, jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki
Kuoppala) wrote:
> 
> In article <ksand-101192180814@wintermute.apple.com>, ksand@apple (Kent Sandvik ) writes:
> >realize the consequences. Especially if they want to kill the teaching
> >of Swedish, and at the same time the economy in Finland is in shambles
> >and their most important trade partners are in the West, not in the
> >East. It's a good sign of narrow-minded thinking, IMHO.
> 
> Sure, it'll do much good for the trade with EC countries to know
> Swedish.  Everybody knows that each and every person in the EC
> countries is fluent in Swedish.  I think we should stop teaching
> English and other languages in Finnish schools - Swedish is such an
> important language in all of Finland's export depends critically on
> people's ability to talk Swedish and thus all possible time must be
> used to teach Swedish.

Sigh, I just pointed out that if you want to do trade with the 
Scandinavian countries, it does help if both parts speak the same
language, Swedish or English. Even if I speak Finnish fluently,
I had to attend Finnish classes in high school, and I didn't mind 
about this, because you always learn something new about the
language.

Same now, the only time I need Finnish is when I call my mother
once every second week, but I would not blatantly state that it 
was a waste of time learning Finnish. It's really an attitude
issue, some people hate learning any languages, and I hope they
would realize how much it opens your inner views...

Kent
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From: thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Tv} spr}k - en rikedom f|r FINLAND
Date: 7 Nov 92 13:56:48 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Hufvudstadsbladet (Helsingfors) 7.11.1992:

"TV] SPR]K EN RIKEDOM F\R FINLAND

Tv}spr}kigheten {r en rikedom f|r Finland. Om jag har kunnat fr{mja
f|rst}elsen mellan landets b}da spr}kgrupper har mitt arbete inte
varit f|rg{ves, sade stadsr}det Johannes Virolainen p} Svenska dagens
(6.11) huvudfest i N{rpes med Svenska Finlands Folkting som 
arrang|r.

Han ankn|t i festtalet till (president) J K Paasikivi som under 
det l}nga parlamentet h|sten 1944 och vintern 1945 drev fram en 
s{rskild paragraf i jordanskaffningslagen till skydd f|r svensbygdernas 
enhetlighet.

- Finland har str{vat till att bevara den svenska folkgruppen som
ett viktigt nationellt element och detta b|r vi alltj{mt h}lla levande,
sade Johannes Virolainen."

Jag {r helt av samma }sikt
Tapani Hietaniemi, Universitas Helsingiensis
                   urbs fennorum
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: due@iitb.fhg.de (Bernhard Duerr)
Subject: vacation in sweden
Organization: Institut fuer Informations- und Datenverarbeitung
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:21:30 GMT

Hej, swedish people,

we, 4 adults and 2 children, are looking for a nice house to spend
our holiday-time next summer. We prefer a house near a lake, with
good conditions for fishing. A boat is also desirable.

Very important for us is a quite place.

We dwellt twice in the area of lake Unden. We liked this region 
very much. 

If anybody can arrange such type of house or can give us any hint
it would be very helpful for us.

Thanks.

Bernhard Duerr
Stoesserstr. 3a
7500 Karlsruhe 21
Germnany
Tel. : 44721556194
email: due@iitb.fhg.de 


Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: jafitv@termo.unit.no (Jan Arne Fagertun)
Subject: Re: Swedofobia in Jarmo Ryyti
Reply-To: jafitv@termo.unit.no (Jan Arne Fagertun)
Organization: SINTEF, Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 14:44:57 GMT

In article <BxJqrr.xK@news.chalmers.se>, d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se (Bertil Jonell) writes:
|> 
|> In article <1992Nov10.192517.2230@cs.hut.fi> ovr@snakemail.hut.fi (Otto-Ville Ronkainen) writes:
|> >Maybe he had to eat too many swedes as a child and then later mixed
|> >the two.
|> 
|>   The world is fortunate that there isn't a country called
|> "Broccoli".
|> 
|> >ovr@snakemail.hut.fi
|> 
|> -bertil-
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What is a swede (apart from a person from Sweden) ?


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: f33012l@puukko.hut.fi (Janne Kivel{)
Subject: Re: Pakkoruotsi Suomen kouluissa (Tv}ngsvenska in Finnish schools)
Reply-To: f33012l@puukko.hut.fi (Janne Kivel{)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 09:24:25 GMT

jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:

>>realize the consequences. Especially if they want to kill the teaching
>>of Swedish, and at the same time the economy in Finland is in shambles
>>and their most important trade partners are in the West, not in the
>>East. It's a good sign of narrow-minded thinking, IMHO.
>
>Sure, it'll do much good for the trade with EC countries to know
>Swedish.  Everybody knows that each and every person in the EC
>countries is fluent in Swedish.  I think we should stop teaching
>English and other languages in Finnish schools - Swedish is such an
>important language in all of Finland's export depends critically on
>people's ability to talk Swedish and thus all possible time must be
>used to teach Swedish.

Swedish was made obligatory in Finnish schools as late as in 1964. I don't
really know what was the reasoning behind this decision, probably some
political scam between Rural league (that later became Center Party) and
Swedish Party. 

Obligatory Swedish has, IMHO, no effect on treatment of Swedish-speaking
minority. It only reduces the number of choices schoolchildren have. It's
very narrow-minded thinking to state that removing obligatory Swedish would 
mean killing the teaching of Swedish altogether.

Janne Kivela"

      "N{m{kin pusakat vain viisysiysi. Ja kaikista valtakunnan..."
                     ----- Simo vaatehuoneelta
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: tomas_e@LINK.Physchem.KTH.SE (Tomas Eriksson)
Subject: Re: M.A. Numminen (was: Assimilation of the Finns in Northern-Sweden)
Reply-To: tomas_e@LINK.Physchem.KTH.SE
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:25:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.132146.16058@eua.ericsson.se>, euaaen@eua.ericsson.se (Anders Engwall) writes:
>torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen) writes:
>
>>F|r m}nga av oss {r visserligen M.A.Numminen o|vertr{ffad
>>som uttolkare av den finska (och europeiska!) visskatten
>
>(N{, nu byter vi allt spr}k)
>
>Judging by the great compilation CD "Den Eviga ]rg}ngen", he's also an
>excellent interpreter of American jazz. The versions of e.g. "Caravan"
>and "Four Brothers" have to be heard to be believed.
>
>Furthermore, his interpretations of the works of Ludwig Wittgenstein of course
>remain unbeaten to this day. They can all be found on the "The Tractatus Suite"
>album on which M.A. sings in just about any language under the sun -
>from tv}ngssvenska to first order predicate calculus. This is of course in
>full accordance with the subject of the songs. Very conceptual, that.
>
>Speaking of his Wittgenstein stuff: one of the tracks, "Wovon Mann Nicht
>Sprechen Kann" - also included on the compilation - was apparently recorded
>live at Turku University.

Not that I've heard what you're discussing, but wouldn't this be a very 
illogical recording? I mean - good ol' Ludwig wrote "Wovon Mann Nicht 
Sprechen Kann - DARUeBER MUSS MANN ZWEIGEN!"

But my favouriote Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus quotation is:

	Dass die Sonne morgen aufgeht ist eine Hypothese,
	und dass bedeutet dass wir NICHT WISSEN ob sie morgen aufgeht

I'm bloody mightily relieved each day the sun rises - must be difficult 
to live north of the polar circle (in Uppsala and places like that (-: ).

Tomas
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            Surface Force Group, Department of Physical Chemistry,
               Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden

"These latter-day practitioners of surface chemistry reflect a lingering of the
adventurous spirit of the Enlightment" -- Charles Tanford
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: t88swa@tdb.uu.se (Sven Wallman)
Subject: Re: The Finns of Sweden
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:50:06 GMT

Jarmo Ryyti (ryyti@jyu.fi) wrote:
: 
: And greetings for all swedish Finnish haters!

The only hatred comes from you, Jarmo. How can you compare Nazi-Germany to
Sweden? Don't you understand that you are trivialising the horibble crimes
commited by Nazi-Germany when doing that?
--
Sven Wallman, S:t Larsg. 5, 753 11 Uppsala, Sweden, +46 1812 9237
"I think, therefore I'm right."-Hugo Rune
From: ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Assimilation of the Finns in Northern-Sweden
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:02:29 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.nordic
Organization: Apple

In article <TORKEL.92Nov10201951@bast.sics.se>, torkel@sics.se (Torkel
Franzen) wrote:
> 
> In article <lfvtcaINNpsl@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> staffan@chivas.Eng.Sun.COM
>  (Staffan Liljegren [CONTRACTOR]) writes:
> 
>   >Aldrig i livet ! Inte nr man kan njuta av kta, sensuell, tango
>   >i frn Rio de la Plata ! 
> 
>   Bah! Pah! Vad har den argentiska tangon att komma med i j{mf|relse
> med den fr}n de susande skogarna?

Det ar intressant att notera att tango som kulturform ar dyrkad i 
bade Argentina och Finland. Man kan ocksa notera dom stora skillnaderna
mellan de eldiga syd-amerikanare och den introverta finlandaren. Kanske
motsatserna dras till varandra?

Kent
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From: kjell@emke.chalmers.se (Kjell Siimon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Finns and Swedes and soc.culture.nordic
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:25:44 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.nordic
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology

In article <ksand-061192222739@wintermute.apple.com>, ksand@apple.com (Kent
Sandvik ) wrote:
> 
> Hello, I guess some people think that Finns and Swedes are constantly
> fighting each other in the Nordic countries due to ethnical problems 
> in both countries.


Hello Kent!

I truely agree with you about what you are saying in your article.
We would have a much better world if people used their hands shaking and
hugging 
our fellow men instead of slapping faces and pulling triggers on eachother.

(I also think it would be much more fun to fight
and argu with Stockholmers)   ;-)

Kjell the Brave
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik )
Subject: Finns and Swedes and soc.culture.nordic
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 06:32:52 GMT
Organization: Apple
Followup-To: soc.culture.nordic

Hello, I guess some people think that Finns and Swedes are constantly
fighting each other in the Nordic countries due to ethnical problems 
in both countries.

I must just state that I was born in Finland, raised and educated in
both languages, and I have lived in Stockholm/Sweden for 4 years 
(actually I still have the apartment in Sundbyberg :-) ).

And yes, there are issues. However Finland and Sweden are very quite
and nice parts of this violent world, and you could walk around 
five in the morning in the middle of Helsinki and speak Swedish
without getting killed by an angry mob of Finns. And vice versa.

It is fruitful to raise issues dealing with the Finns that emigrated
to Sweden, and the Swedish speaking minority living in Finland. However
just speaking from my own experience these issues will always be 
present because people are people, and there will always be those
that feel their rights have been violated. I'm proud because due
to my background I've had a possibility to experience both cultures.

So instead of complaining, can't we shake hands, and instead talk about
why Sweden and Finland have one of the best social welfare systems in
the world? And will they have them left five years from now?

Cheers,
Kent
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From: euafri@eua.ericsson.se (Fredrik stman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: President Clinton!
Date: 5 Nov 92 08:15:21 GMT
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden

Bob Hammarberg writes:
>Fredrik O"stman writes:
>>Bob Hammarberg writes:

>>> President Clinton has such a *nice* ring to it!
>>No no no. Angstrom has a nice ring to it :-)
>Clint}n?
Clintan!?
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: f33012l@puukko.hut.fi (Janne Kivel{)
Subject: Re: Deaths among orienteers
Reply-To: f33012l@puukko.hut.fi (Janne Kivel{)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 09:32:30 GMT

minow@apple.com (Martin Minow) writes:
>Regarding the unfortunate deaths among elite orienteers -- there has been
>some discussion of this in the orienteering mailing list. Apparently,
>it is due to a flu-like illness that weakens the heart muscle. It is a
>fairly common illness and those who catch it should stop training for
>long enough to allow the body to heal. From the notes in the mailing list,
>it seems that the deaths may have been due to resuming elite-level training
>too soon after the obvious symptoms of the illness had passed.

According to a doctor interviewed in Finnish television, the reason 
behind the deaths might be a combined effect of antibiotics and medicine
used to treatment of allergy (or hayfever). These medicines cause 
strain in the heart muscle, disturbances in the pulse or whatever.
Many orienteers need medicine to relieve allergic symptoms especially
in the spring.

Janne Kivela"

      "N{m{kin pusakat vain viisysiysi. Ja kaikista valtakunnan..."
                     ----- Simo vaatehuoneelta
From: J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: M.A. Numminen (was: Assimilation of the Finns in 
 Northern-Sweden)
Date: 12 Nov 92 04:11:23 GMT
 <TORKEL.92Nov9223151@bast.sics.se> 
 <1992Nov11.132146.16058@eua.ericsson.se>  
 <1992Nov11.172549.25503@kth.se>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Flame me if I'm wrong, but I thought Uppsala was SOUTH of the polar
circle.

:-)

--Ted Schuerzinger
email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU
"I should have realized it would be bad vodka when all the label said
was 'Russian Vodka'."