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From: ananth@pyrite.som.cwru.edu (Ananth Srinivasan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Tax related information for graduate students
Keywords: Grad students; taxes
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:20:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: WSOM CSG, CWRU, Cleve. OH
NNTP-Posting-Host: pyrite.som.cwru.edu
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Here is some information that I came across that I thought would
be of interest to a number of people.
======================================
Bill H.R. 4418, now being considered by the U. S. House of
Representatives, would return the graduate student fellowship stipends
to tax-exempt status.  That is, stipends given in the form of a
scholarship or program for teacher education, as opposed to stipends
which are given as a return for service, which would still be
considered taxable income.  Prior to the Reagan-Bush era, graduate
student fellowship stipends were not taxed, and Tom Lewis (R- Florida)
has proposed a bill which not only would make these stipends
tax-exempt, but would also return all taxes paid since 1986 on these
stipends.  The Bill is H.R. 4418 and is currently under consideration.

The National Association of Graduate-Professional Students (NAGPS)
supports this bill as a first step in completely returning all
graduate education stipends to tax-exempt status.  You can reach their
central office for NAGPS at (708) 256-1562 and request a recruitment
packet, filled with various information on what else NAGPS does and
can help with at your school. The regional Coordinator in the MidWest
is Monica White, at Western Michigan University.
  
To voice your opinion on the bill, call or write your local
congressperson.
  
If you do not know who your Representative is, call (800) 347-1997
(THE FEDERAL INFORMATION CENTER) and ask.
  
Please feel free to redistribute this message, and please direct
all further discussion of this issue to the soc.college.grad news
group.  Thank you.  
======================================

--Ananth
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dhar@oregon.uoregon.edu (Sanjay Dhar)
Subject: PHYSICS DEPT @ U OF MARYLAND, COLLEGE PARK
Organization: Materials Science Institute
Distribution: USA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:22:49 GMT

Hi, could any one at the physics dept contact me. I needed some inside info 
on the physics program( expt. condensed matter).
thanks,--sanjay
dhar@oregon.uoregon.edu
dhar@oregon.uoregon.edu
home:(503)-345-3556   off:(503)-346-4762
From: ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Arun K. Gupta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Something nice
Date: 23 Aug 92 20:51:13 GMT
Organization: Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA



Just heard on the radio about a local Christian sect, a branch
of Presbyterians, whose position was tempered by contact with
Hindus in the Eastern suburbs on Pittsburgh, for whom the God
who blessed the church was the same Brahman worshipped in the
two temples they built in Pittsburgh.

So, the church's official credo is: God's way purpose with other
religions has not been revealed to us. Let us then live in peace
and harmony with them.
The change from intolerance to an admission of ignorance is most
heartening. (They don't blindly condemn Hinduism as idolatrous
any more.)

-arun gupta
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: tbutalia@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Tarunjit Singh Butalia)
Subject: Re: Buddhism/Sikhism a part of Hinduism ?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:53:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.211438.19096@midway.uchicago.edu> trivedi@curie.uchicago.edu (Anil Trivedi) writes:
>jsingh@uicadf.csl.uiuc.edu (Jaidip Singh) writes:
>

Stuff deleted

>
>I raise the following point once agin: is there any evidence traceable
>to Guru Nanak that Sikhism was then not a part of Hinduism?
>

First of all, in Sikhism all the Ten Gurus had the same divine light. The
mission of the first Guru to the tenth Guru were all the same. Satta & Balwand
(pp 966) in Guru Granth Sahib write :

	'The divine light is the same;
	 The life form is the same;
	 The King has merely changed the body.'

Thus, the teachings of all the Sikh Gurus have the same place in the mind of
Sikhs. In case of some Hindus who consider themselves Sikhs, they consider
Guru Nanak to be superior to the other nine Gurus that followed. This is
where the difference lies. Sikhism emphasize the unified divinity of the
Sikh Gurus. The teachings of Guru Nanak have the same force as those of Guru
Gobind Singh and other Sikh Gurus.

Guru Nanak (pp150) :

	'I, a jobless ministral, was assigned a rewarding task'

Again Guru Nanak in Wadhans Mahalla Pahla (pp566) :

	'I am saying what He commands Me to say'

Guru Arjan in Bharion Mahalla Panjwa (pp1136) :

	'I do not fast nor do I observe Ramadan
	 I only serve One God who always protects me
	 - - -
	 I do not go on Hujj to Kaaba nor do I go no any pilgrimage
	 I serve only One God and no other - - -
	 I am neither a Hindu nor am I a Muslim.'


I do not intend to offend anyone, but presented below are quotes from Guru
Nanak contained in Guru Granth Sahib (alogwith page #).

From what i have learnt and read, Guru Nanak NEVER said that he was a part
of Hinduism. 

Guru Nanak says (pp 1021) :

	'Neither the Vedas nor the Kitab knows the mystery'

Again Guru Nanak says (pp634):

	'I do not dabble in duality and worship none but God
	 I visit neither tombs nor cremation grounds'

Guru Nanak (pp636) :

	'You worship God and Goddesses, brother,
	 What do you ask of them and what can they give you ?
	 The stone Gods are washed in water and sink in it.
	 Without the Guru, the unseen Lord cannot be perceived
	 and the world drowns.'

Guru Nanak (pp355) :

	'Through religious rites God cannot be won over
	 Through recitation of religious texts, His worth cannot be attained
	 The 18 Puranas and the 4 Vedas know not his secret
	 Nanak, the true Guru, has shown me the Lord'

Guru Nanak (pp416) :

	'Entaglements are the Vedas, religious discussions and egoism'

Guru Nanak (pp990) :

	'People read the Smriti, Shashtras and Puranas
	 They enter into arguements but do not know the essence'

-- 
Tarunjit Singh Butalia                  (tbutalia@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed A Khan)
Subject: Re: RSS ( a reply to fundamentalists)
Reply-To: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed A Khan)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 15:11:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.140108.7317@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
rroy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Raja R Roy) writes:
> 
> 
> In article <1992Aug30.134652.16896@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>
bond@jupiter.sun.csd
> .unb.ca (Girish Bonde) writes:
> >g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh) writes:
> >
> >>[.....]
> >>What a great way of disobeying the constitution and suprem law.
> >>[.....]
> >
> >Do you know that none of the court orders, as of today, has been
> >disobeyed by VHP/RSS? The High Court order prohibits the construction
> >of any permanent structures or the transfer of the 2.77 acres acquired
> >by the Uttar Pradesh State Tourism department. But it has not been able
> >to demarcate the disputed premises. So no jurisdiction over the shrine's
> >land has so far been established by the courts. That means none of the
> >court orders has been flouted. Even the construction of the 100 ft. by
> >80 ft. platform which was started in the last month did not defy any of
> >the court orders.
> >
> >-Girish.
> >
> 
>     I believe that before one talks about VHP/RSS abiding the law, why
>  don't we see what the other party has done in the past. How much they
>  care for law & order. Isn't Shahabuddin the fellow, who burnt copies
>  of Indian constitution. What do we expect from such people. I believe
>  that Shahabuddin is the head of babri masjid action committee.
> 
>  Raja 
> 
> 
> 
> >



The point is that none of the parties should be allowed to violate the law
of the land. Any one violating the law should be prosecuted according to the
law of the land. Just because one party may have been guilty cannot serve as
reason enough for the other party to consider itself free from abiding by the
law. If Mr.Shahabuddin committed a crime charges should be pressed against 
him and have him convicted. The same also hold for the RSS or for that matter
any citizen.

--Javed.
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki)
Subject: Re: Sati is for our good!!
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:33:01 GMT

>: What is your number? 1-800-CLUELESS?
>Remember, tel nos shoud have 7-digit numers/letters
>after area code. Just for your info, since you are
>very new to US.
>---Nimmi
>: doki

I think I did not make a mistake in calling you CLUELESS!!

Suresh

PS: one of those days when everything goes right

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gnreddy@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (G.Narotham Reddy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Please Read - Kashmir Awareness Plan to be Intensified
Date: 29 Aug 92 13:34:40 GMT
Organization: AT&T


I just read the following clip in News India.  Can someone please
forward me more details, and if possible, some contacts in this
regard.

Regards,

Narotham

-------

* Kashmir Awareness Plan to be Intensified

A number of issues concerning Indian including the Kashmir problems
were discussed at the second annual summer camp of the HSC held in
Siddhachalam in NJ.

	The Kashmir Awareness Campaign, which aims at countering the
anti-India propaganda on the Kashmir issue, would be intensified, it
was announced.  HSC will launch a signature campaign on university
campuses in North America to increase awareness on the Kashmir issue.

	About 125 students from 34 universities in North America
attended the four-day meet organized by the Vishwa Hindu Parishad of
America.
	Prominenet among those who participated included
Dr.Raghuram, Anjalee Pandya, Dr.Mahesh Mehta, Gaurang Vishnav and
Dr.Veena Gandhi.

                             * E N D *
From: kamal@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (KaMaL)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Are u travelling to India this December?
Date: 23 Aug 92 23:09:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX


	I just want to point out to those new Indian students who intend
to return to India in December 1992, that most flights leaving London in
December already have long waiting lists!! 

	Make reservations as soon as possible. The last time i checked, I
believe that free flights were available on the 25th and 29th of December. 

Good luck
Kamal Lakhiani.

opinion
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: shree@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (sanjiv.bhatt)
Subject: Looking for astrology program
Keywords: astrology program
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:13:02 GMT

Hi:

I am looking for program of astrology. I tried to use
program available on comp.sources.misc but it is of
western type, base on sun. I am looking for based on
Luner which create can create Horoscope based on 
indian astrology.

I would prefer on unix or pc-based program not only
executable file ( If nothing else then this will also fine)
but c code so that I can combine result with postscript design
and perhaps Hindi/Sanskrit font.

Thanks

att!ihlpb!sanjiv
att!cbnewsf!shree
raskb349@glen-ellyn.iit.edu

Sanjiv Bhatt
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:29815 soc.women:15963
From: rgm4@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Raghuram G Murtugudde)
Subject: SINGAPORE: TMC INFO: Thanks to all those who responded !!
Reply-To: rgm4@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Raghuram G Murtugudde)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 02:22:56 GMT


 I thank everyone of those who responded to my query about a job in
 Singapore. 

 Raghu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: arvindv@fraser.sfu.ca (Arvind Verma)
Subject: ramjanmbhoomi-babrimasjid dispute
Summary:  a way to resolve?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:40:18 GMT

several solutions have been proposed to solve this problem but none seem
to be practical or rather acceptable. However, anyone studying this problem
would not have failed to notice that its not really a dispute in which people
of both the communities are totally on opposite sides. What everyone is looking
for is a face saving formula; or to be correct- a formula to save the face of
vhp-bmc leaders. If these (sic) leaders were to be locked up and left to 
themselves peace would be returned in no time. 
I've experimented a similar dispute solving procedure in one of my district 
tenures which i wish to present:- A dispute over the ownership of some land
adjacent to a graveyard created severe tension in a particular police station
Soon, local leadership, dormant during other calamities and troubles, sprang
up overnight and laid claims on behalf of the two communities. Laissez faire
attitude on part of the local officials built up the tension and a couple of
incidents of violence took place. Court intervention, posting of police pickets
and long periods of dispute resolutions were in vain for the leaders saw in 
this a chance to remain in limelight and blackmail the communities in following
them. To cut a long story short, peace and solution were immediately gained
when the leaders on both the sides were forcibly locked in the circuit house 
room, prevented from communicating or moving outside and asked to resolve
the differences amongst themselves in a given time frame. Naturally, no solutionemerged but confinement made a few drop out of the leadership race and the 
others agreed for a status quo i.e. leaving the land as it is with neither
of the two sides laying any claims over it. Incarceration of only three and
a half days brought this settlement.
In case of the ayodhya dispute i suggest that all those who are in the 
forefront should be locked up in a big conference room, permitted not to leave
until they have resolved their differences and their deliberations be occasionally aired on tv to reveal their true calibres of reasoning! I am confident that
these persons claiming to be leaders will not last more than a week and will
skimper away once they realise that they will truly remain confined unless 
the matter is resolved. Apart from these persons the rest of the country has 
better things on their mind and will certainly not miss them!   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: raghavan@wk21.nas.nasa.gov (Venkatraman Raghavan)
Subject: Re: birthday posting
Organization: -
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 02:57:50 GMT

Vijay Fafat writes:

>>I wish a happy birthday to all who were born today Aug.28th. Have another
>>happy and successful year. Take care and God bless.

>             I hereby vow that I'll post the above posting everyday with
>suitable changes so that each guy's birthday goes appreciated ... :)

Call Sridhar Venkataraman of ASU, he will automate it for you.

Raghavan, V.

(Serious) P.S.: Singing "Happy Birthday to Me" is not very healthy, 
please seek help, like I will be doing for posting this.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sk2g@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Sudesh  Kannan)
Subject: REPOST : Question abt J-1 -> H-1 for medical graduates 
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa 
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:54:48 GMT

REPOST  ! REPOST !   REPOST  !

*****************************************************

Though there were many readers who wanted a summary
of the replies to this posting, I got no information
on this topic.
*****************************************************

My cousin is currently undergoing his medical
residency program in an American hospital.

He is on a J-1 visa. He wants to know what
formalities he needs to complete to transfer
to a H-1 Visa / Green  Card after finishing his
residency requirements.

Please send your replies to sk2g@virginia.edu.

I will summarize the replies if there is enough
interest.


Sudesh Kannan

sk2g@virginia.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Subject: The Speilmeister Recanst -- Icarus.
Organization: The Net-Anarchists of SCI, Inc.
              Flaming Homer Division.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 01:24:59 GMT

1] I have been accused of making so many spelling mistakes,
   its time I offered my defense. 
   
   Critiques welcome.

2]

           The SpellMiester Recanst 
          --------------------------


When I was ten years old, my english teacher hit me on the head for
spelling #it with a you in it,  & I lost my
concsiosness, falling into a ,

When I wok up I was full grown and there is little . in telling
you folk about my trubles.

I cant rememmber all the details of my perverssion.
Or its subsequeent developement.

Years ago my phone rang and i said hello.
A swit voice said Hi, aah, Hi, aah Hi.
so I said what ?
she said this is debi, aaaah! hi.
I asked her if it was debi with two bees in it like debbi
or debi with two ais in it like debii.
so she said no its debi with two bees in it and one aaai in it
and a eeeh at the end.
I said I did not know any debi.
she asked me if I was all alon.
I sed no but could she help me spell ennervasion ?
she slamed the fon down.
My only chanse to spell ennervasion and she doesnt know how !
Discusting all veri discusting !


All my life or at least a large % of it, i Have been runing from
this damien.

I was tricked by a ` who pretended he was a cat`.
The wile serphent was subtil the end. Chasing me relentlesly, all the way 
down the raod as i -ed past the ! & I came to the .
It was sudenlly dark & I rememmbered what the * #its had said.
There was going to be an ... yesterday knight.
i felt a ! in the darkness and a tap on my shoulder & there was the mosnter.
A full grown :
I took out my {} and -ed it to the ground.
it lost a ' of its " of armur & had only a ' left.
blind to everything else it could now see only ** s
Let me tell you its future was a big ?
I smiled my 22 ^ smile and kilt him with a furious # of my nuckles.
He split in half & lay there in two ; s.


I guess you can call me a ,-chamaleon. 
You know, I just ,, ,, , and go. 

3] Stay Cool.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,rec.travel
From: lala@tdd.sj.nec.com (T.K. Lala  x2907)
Subject: Anyone travelling from Calcutta, India to San Francisco, USA?
Organization: NEC-AM TDD, San Jose, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 22:58:30 GMT

I am interested in finding out if anyone might be travelling from Calcutta,
India to San Francisco on September end or the begining of October'92. A
Bengalee lady would be travelling for the first time to San Francisco. It would
be a great help if she could accompany any Bengalee speaking family or
responsible person in case she needs some interpretion of English or just
the procidures/logistics during this international travel. She is not looking
for to be of any burden to any one but just a little help during her first international travel. I would appreciate if anyone might be of some assistance on
this. Thamks. 

T. K. LALA 

Res:Tel/Fax: 408 272 3890
OFF: Tel: 408 433 2907.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sarang@saturn.sdsu.edu (Srinath Sarang)
Subject: Re: ALL OF YOU ARE PAROCHIAL AND STUPID.  DIE!
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 05:31:41 GMT

Udit Sharma (bd217@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:
: 
: I'm back!  And so is my "classic":
: 
---other stuff deleted----

Oh No ! One more to add to the kill file...

Srinath
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.us.asian-indian
From: chaw@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (S. S. Chawathe)
Subject: Re: Buddhism/Sikhism a part of Hinduism ? 
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Date:  2 Sep 92 21:41:18 GMT

udcrusd@meaddata.com (Sylvia D'Cruz) writes:

>I think, it is more so in India, and cultures, that have held on to identities
>through the years. Most Indians, no matter in which part of the world they
>exist, or which generation, hold on to their last name - which means and tells
>alot. Some have their trade (wallas), some the caste, the village, etc and some
>the foreign/religious ancestary. Maybe what we need is lots and lots of Smiths.

I don't see anything wrong with holding on to ones last name!  If
one does not like the information it gives out to people, it may
be a good idea to change it to something generic (isn't Kumar one
such `Smith'y last name some people adopt?), but in general,
what's wrong with a descriptive last name?

I like to think of democracy as accepting and appreciating
differences, not denying their existence!


-- 

_________________________________________________________________
Chaw@cs.Stanford.edu                                 tat tvam asi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: Venkatachalam Aruna  (Affable)
Subject: Re: I will close you by my ices --[ The Tiger Cascade ]
Reply-To: aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Venkatachalam Aruna)
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:55:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.200206.7776@colorado.edu> paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU  
(Icarus) writes:
> In article <1992Aug27.183120.6463@menudo.uh.edu> aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu  
(Venkatachalam Aruna) writes:
> >In article <1992Aug27.173933.1794@colorado.edu>  
paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU  
> >(Icarus) writes:
> >> In article <1992Aug27.125801.16683@menudo.uh.edu> aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu  
> >(Venkatachalam Aruna) writes:
> >> >In article <1992Aug26.225243.194559@ua1ix.ua.edu>  
ngopalas@ho19.eng.ua.edu  
> >> >(Nath S. Gopalaswamy) writes:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>I will close you by my ices.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I will lose you by my dices.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>  I will kill you with my spices.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>    Hi willki, you with mices ?
> >> >> >>>>>>>>    No Vepal, that would be crises.
> >> >> >>>>>>      No pal, begone, that suffices.
> >> >> >>>>>       I car US life's main spices?
> >> >> >>>>        I caress her vain crevices.
> >> >> >>>         I could do without artificial devices.
> >> >> >>          I kudo you with art on what premises ?
> >> >> >           Could you be SCating on thin Ices?
> >> >>             Methinks Icarus will pay terrible prices.
> >> >              Yes, he will be crushed down to juices.
> >>                Less, you will be rushed down to the sluices.
> >                 Mess, to get crushed, he always cruises.
>                   God Bless, forget Rushdie, he always loses.
                    Do stress, for blessings he doesn't get roses.

Cheers,
Venkat
--
venkat@jetson.uh.edu                  | If you love something,set it free.
venkat@menudo.uh.edu                  | If it comes back, it is yours.
aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu(NeXT mails okay)| If it does not, it never was.
(713)-923-7773(h) & (713)-743-4250(w) |
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: murthy@ecf.toronto.edu (MURTHY SAMNATHAN)
Subject: ATTENTION: LOOKING FOR G. SARAVANA OR FRIENDS OF G. SARAVANA
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:46:34 GMT

Hello,
      My name is Sam Murthy and I am an old friend of G.Saravana from our
days at Montfort school (boarding school in Yercaud, India). Years ago
Saravana came to school in the U.S.
    I am trying to reach him or any of his friends. Please email me at:
	    murthy@ecf.toronto.edu
		      or
    call me at:
	    (416) 751-2899 collect.

 I believe he first attented a school called the Christford school in
 California.

 Please email me at your earliest. Gratefully,


Sam.