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From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: FTP filesystem?
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 17:09:28 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

Ed Vielmetti notes that it's possible to make a filesystem that uses
FTP to do its work.  That would be very neat to have once Linux gets
kernel TCP/IP.

From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: ftp network programming
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan

you might also take a peek at 

        alex.sp.cs.cmu.edu:/
and take a look at Vince Cate's "alex" system, which builds a file
system on top of FTP servers.

        --Ed

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tracy@bluenote.b23b.ingr.com (Robert Tracy)
Subject: stat with gcc-2.2.2
Reply-To: tracyre@infonode.ingr.com
Organization: DAZIX, An Intergraph Company
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:55:15 GMT

When I call the stat function, it fills in the stat structure but the
entries are shifted.  For example, the st_mode data is contained in
the st_nlinks member, and so on.  I noticed in the stat.h file that
there is some information about padding being added between some
elements of the stat structure, and I suspect that this is causing the
problem.  Is the stat function in the 2.2.2 version of libc compiled
with or without the padding in the stat structure?

Please respond via email.

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From: rab@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Richard Alan Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: MicroSoft Bus Mouse v.s. Linux 0.96c(pl2)
Date: 29 Jul 92 05:38:58 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Services, University of Melbourne

In article <1992Jul27.191720.2986@uwm.edu> rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller) writes:
>
>Has anyone gotten a MicroSoft Bus Mouse to work with anything under Linux?

I have a Microsoft InPort mouse, and it certainly doesn't work. However,
Nathan Laredo advises me that InPort mice are really just serial mice.
My InPort mouse card uses IRQ 5 and according to the docs uses port address
0x23C-0x23F, so i tried:

	% setserial /dev/tty2 0x23C 5

and locked up the system quite nicely! I have no idea what to do next...
any ideas ??

rab
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: marbun@envmsa.eas.asu.edu (Marbun,Leo P)
Subject: ftp site for linux
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:23:00 GMT

Could someone tell me an ftp site where I can get linux and its FAQ?
Please send me an Email.
Thanks.

Leo.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jgifford@attmail.com
Subject: booklist (please read and contribute!!)
Reply-To: jgifford@attmail.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 05:16:54 GMT

I am attempting to compile a list of books that are helpful with linux.

What we need are books on the following topics:
administration
networking
uucp
mail
tex
emacs
X
gcc
and lots more.  ;)

I prefer book suggestions be submitted with the following format:
Last, First M. : Title of book, date, ISBN, brief description.

You can add more info if you want, this is just a rough guideline.  ;)
I notice there have been MANY posts lately recommending this or that book,
If you just recommended one, let me know!!

I will make this list available at tsx, and I might be able to convince a root
disk maintainer or two to include it in .Z on a root disk  ??

What we need most right now wrt root disks, is some nice documents that are compressed.  ;)

please send all recommendations to booklist@raskol.attmail.com
If that address fails for some reason, try booklist%raskol@attmail.com, or
raskol!booklist@attmail.com

Thanks in advance!!  ;)
Jim Gifford
Member Linux Support Team, Booklist Maintainer
KD4PPG    jim@raskol.attmail.com  
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Subject: Re: Alternatives to splitting the newsgroup
Reply-To: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:46:37 GMT

No, actually, it would be very hard support the new groups.  There are
two problems.  The first is cross-posting.  People do it a lot, no
matter how you try to stop them, and with mail, you can't eliminate the
duplicates without a lot of work, and then you have to decide where the
article should go.  The second problem is that having the digest track
several groups would require a lot of changes to the perl script as it
is currently written; the assumption is fairly strong that there is only
one newsgroup.  You could have separate digests for the different
newsgroups, but that's really unwieldy, and it still doesn't solve the
crossposting problem.

Again, I really don't think the current traffic on the newsgroups
warrant splitting the newsgroup.  And if we implement my suggestion of
draining off the newbie questions by directing them at a list of
volunteers, such that each question goes to only one volunteer, I think
we can further decrease volume on this list so that splitting it is
really not justified.

So far, just under 20 people have volunteered, and all of the responses
which I've gotten is positive.  If we can get a couple more volunteers,
we can definitely get this service off the ground.  So if you haven't
signed up yet, and you like helping people, I ask you to please sign up!
All you have to do is send me mail stating your email address and what
areas you feel most comfortable answering questions.

						- Ted
From: djansa@aphrodite.cs.wisc.edu (Dean Jansa)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: PC as a terminal
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:04:43 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

Could someone send my an example inittab for the follow:
( I checked the FAQ, but only modems were discussed )

PC (running Dos)  <---> PC (running Linux)
com1							com1

Connecting these together using a Null Modem (Serial Cable)
Is it possible, what speed should I use, .....

Thanks in advance for your help.

Dean Jansa
University of Wisconsin - Madison
Computer Science
From: lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Termios question: Semantics of VMIN/VTIME on Linux/SunOS ?
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:36:27 GMT
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.

In article <9207151400@gandalf.moria> u31b3hs@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Haardt) writes:
>I have an weird problem:
>
>  struct termios buff;
>
>  tcgetattr(file,&buff);
>  buff.c_lflag=0;
>  cfsetispeed(&buff,B1200);
>  buff.c_cc[VMIN]=5;
>  buff.c_cc[VTIME]=1;
>  tcsetattr(file,TCSANOW,&buff);
>
>I am no termios expert, but this code is intended to let a
>
>  read(file,buffer,sizeof(buffer));
>  
>read as much characters as available, max sizeof(buffer) and return
>after a short timeout if there are none.  Ok?
>
>Well, at least that is what Linux 0.96c.pl1 does -- in contrary to SunOS
>4.1.1, which blocks until sizeof(buffer) characters are read.
>
>Who is right?

I think Linux just ignores VMIN and VTIME, I had a problem with this
porting code from Linux to sun OS. On linux I hadn't filled in those
fields and got very weird behaviour on sun os :)

On the otherhand Linux is almost perfectly compatible, the port of 1000
lines took 15 minutes most spent on this. On the otherhand the code when
moved back to linux ran perfectly the first time.

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From: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BSD Unix aka Freedom is a myth....
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:09:08 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

S_TITZ@iravcl.ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz) writes:
>Some time ago, in a UNIX manual (which one I unfortunately don't
>remember), I read that the SETUID principle was actually covered by a
>patent (inventor Ken Thompson, I think).

As long as were remembering things, I remember it being Dennis Ritchie. 
The patent has been released by AT&T (i.e. they won't enforce it)
because otherwise POSIX (and Unix look-alikes) would have been
impossible.

--
Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi
From: sseiden@anita.ics.uci.edu (Steven Samuel Jr. Seiden)
Subject: New xgames for 2.2.2/0.96c
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:53:39 GMT

The new version of xgames is in incoming at tsx-11.mit.edu.
xgames is a package of games for X11 including tetris, chess
pac man, and others. Get xgames.tar.Z and have fun.

--
Steve Seiden		Dept of Info & Computer Science 	       UC Irvine
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: satishc@microsoft.com (Satish Chittamuru)
Subject: Re: performance under linux
Date: 24 Jul 92 10:33:27 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Keywords: subjective use of objective criteria

In article <fortony.711870846@murphy> fortony@sonne.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
 > 
 >                     The sun 3:                        my toy:
 > straight up         15772                             4468
 > with registers      18450                             5170
 > optimized straight  25641                             7824
 > opt with registers  25641                             7824
 > 
 > The larger number, the better.  
 > 
 > Now, this study has nothing to do with anything, but by interesting
 > comparison, my desktop 386 is grossly outpowering a vax-784 running
 > 4.3 BSD/Mach and putting up a valiant struggle against a Vax 8600,
 > easily besting it in the register competition but not doing so well
 > regularly.

As even ardent VAXers will admit, the VAX CPU is no great shakes in
terms of raw CPU power. But it has excellent I/O handling which is
*very* necesssary when your are handling 25+ users on a 8600. The
486/33 will handily outperform most of the VAX 8xxx series in terms
of MIPS, but an ISA box can never handle 25 users. The bus is going
to be a *reeeaaall* bottleneck. EISA would help much, but even then
a PC doesn't have dedicated I/O channels etc. that a VAX mini has.

Now if you were comparing a 486/33 EISA with bus-mastering 32-bit
peripheral cards and  a pre-4000 VAXStation, the I/O performance
would be lot closer.

But your point is valid. Linux is not a resource hog. And with
shared libs X is more manageable. On an 8 meg machine with 2 xterms
and 1 X11Emacs, It doesn't swap much at all during a kernel compile.
`free' said that only 280 odd KB of swap was being used.

 > -- 
 > a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
 > Felix Sebastian Ortony	fortony@murphy.gis.uiuc.edu
-- 
Satish K. Chittamuru				satishc@microsoft.com
=====
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed herein, either stated or implied, are
solely my own and do not reflect Microsoft's views in any manner.
From: odiug@messua.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Guido Muesch)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Spreadsheet for Linux
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:24:24 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen

There was a Spreadsheet program anounced in an X-windows group. Its called
xspread and based on sc. You can get it from vernam.cs.uwm.edu. There is 
only one problem with a switchstatement. I think I will fix that next week
when I have time. 

Guido
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller)
Subject: How do I tell X386 about my MicroSoft buss-mouse?
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:45:42 GMT

I've finally gotten my ParadisePlus board to display properly, but
I still haven't figured out what I need to do to tell X386 about my
mouse... Can someone help me?

Rick Miller					<rick@ee.uwm.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: quale@saavik.cs.wisc.edu (Douglas E. Quale)
Subject: Re: SIGBUS
Organization: Undergraduate Projects Lab, UW Madison
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 06:00:57 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.053918.290@sspiff.ampr.ab.ca> dje@sspiff.ampr.ab.ca (Doug Evans) writes:
>When porting some applications (Mush and Tin for example) I had to
>patch them because Linux doesn't define SIGBUS.
>
>Is SIGBUS missing from Linux because it isn't really needed (IE: SIGSEGV can
>always be used in it's place)? If so, I guess it's something application
>authors/porters will just have to live with. It's not that difficult
>if one uses #ifdef SIGBUS/#endif - one needn't have to add any Linux specific
>configuration stuff per se.

SIGBUS is a signal in SYSVR4 and 4.3BSD but not POSIX.  The #ifdef fix
you applied is correct, and the official mush and tin sources should be
changed to conform to standards.
-- 
Doug Quale
quale@saavik.cs.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jwinstea@jarthur.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.)
Subject: Re: ksh for Linux & olwm for X (do they exist?)
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, WIBSTR
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 02:52:57 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.020712.16700@athena.mit.edu> klaus%eccx.dnet@esu36.cfsat.honeywell.com (All you touch & all you see is all your life will ever be.) writes:
>I havn't noticed any mention of ksh (korn shell) being available for Linux..Is 
>it?  Is the source code available somewhere if not?

I don't know if anyonehas compiled it for Linux, but there is a public
domain implementation of the Korn shell out there.  Try and archie
search for pdksh, or take a look at your favoite comp.sources.unix
archive, I think it was posted there.

>Also, I succesfully compiled olvwm and I like it much better than twm, but it 
>seems that this is just a scaled down version of Sun's olwm (i.e., I can't 
>compile & run open look apps because I don't have the /usr/include/X11/Xol 
>files.  Is olwm and it's libraries (and include files) freely available, or is 
>this a proprietary sun thing?  I would like to implement the full open look 
>package if possible, and try porting some ol packages...

olvwm is actually olwm + support for virtual windows, so it's an
extension rather than a scaled-down olwm.  The library support you're
looking for is part of XView, which is available on
export.lcs.mit.edu, or xview.ucdavis.edu.

I'll warn you now, though, that Xview is a *huge* package (approx 6
megs compress), and porting will not be an easy task.  I looked at it,
and decided I don't have nearly enough time in the next month, and
then it's off to school for me, and even less time.  Not for me,
thanks.

olwm, however, is easy to port, just as painless as olvwm.  It
compiles to about 50k less than olvwm, too, which is a plus for me,
since I don't even use the virtual window stuff.

If you're eager to work with the OpenLook libraries, Xview is the way
to go.  Have fun!

-- 
                                    +    Jim Winstead Jr. (CSci '95)
                                    |            Harvey Mudd College
                                    | jwinstea@jarthur.Claremont.EDU
                                    + This is all my words.  Honest!
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: healyzh@iat.holonet.net (Zane H. Healy)
Subject: List of BBS's carrying Linux, Correction's
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:12:54 GMT

 Here are a couple of changes to the BBS list that I thought worthy of 
posting right now.

 Here is an updated entry for GEnie:

--	GENie			???????????	2400
 				800-638-9636 voice number

 The following Board's do NOT contain any Linux files:
        FatherBoard
        Travel On-Line


=================================================================
Zane H. Healy                   |As soon as a Program is released
				|it is obsolete.
healyzh@holonet.net -- Internet |
SCNN49A             -- Prodigy	|
=================================================================


Xref: sparky comp.os.linux:6716 comp.os.os2.misc:25561
From: hamish@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Best Video Card ??
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:51:51 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Jul24.203140.11242@sinkhole.unf.edu>, shite@sinkhole.unf.edu (Stephen Hite) writes:
> In article <1992Jul19.172853.26003@highlite.uucp> yarvin@highlite.uucp (Curtis Yarvin) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul17.021536.29502@pool.info.sunyit.edu> ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson) writes:
>>> 
>>>I would suggest looking at the clock speeds when looking for a new
>>>card for X.  By my calculations, I would need * OVER 100 * to get
>>>an acceptable refresh rate at 1176x882 noninterlaced!
>>
>>Yes... and, no.  I'm running X at 1152x900 with a 65Mhz clock, and have
>>no problem with flicker.  The magic?  Dark backgrounds.  If you're not
>>silly enough to window in black-text-on-white-screen, your flickering
>>worries will be over.
>>
>>Try green2 on DarkSlateBlue.
>>
>>c
> 
>   Will this still have an effect on your eyes from prolonged use (4+
> hour stretches) though even though you do not perceive a problem?  
> Most of the good et4000 cards have a high dot clock of 80. Hmm, can 
> the S3 (namely, the Diamond Stealth) be programmed to emit a dot clock 
> to at least 100Mhz?   This would make 1152x900 adequate (according to 
> Satish's xclk program). 
> 
>   There is a PD (well, freely available, whatever) S3 project in the works.  

Whos doing this? And are the specs they are working from (FOr the S3 card)
avalable freely?

> Hopefully, we'll all have a nice Christmas present. ;-)  If the S3 can
> drive the better 17" monitors without flicker and without moire' problems
> (brought on also by too low a dot clock), then with it's added speed
> advantages over the et4000, it will be the ideal card to use for X386.
> Also, by the Fall, the price will hopefully drop below $200. 
> 
> Steve Hite
> shite@sinkhole.unf.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
Subject: Re: booklist (please read and contribute!!)
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:42:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.151534.2176@sspiff.ampr.ab.ca> dje@sspiff.ampr.ab.ca (Doug Evans) writes:
>jgifford@attmail.com writes:
>>I am attempting to compile a list of books that are helpful with linux.
>>
>>What we need are books on the following topics:
>>administration
>>networking
>>uucp
>>mail
>>tex
>>emacs
>>X
>>gcc
>>and lots more.  ;)
>
>There is a big suite of manuals for SVR4/386 published by Prentice Hall.
>I'm not sure SVR4/386 is all good, but some of these manuals have to be more
>than 50% usable. So even if we're not going where SVR4/386 is, these manuals
>should still be considered.
>-- 
>Doug Evans               | "You're just supposed to sit here?"
>dje@sspiff.ampr.ab.ca    |               - Worf in a mud bath.

I just joined a book club here in the states, and got 5 books for $12 after
shipping and handling.  One was a cheap C quick-reference, two were
introductory Unix books, one dealt with shell programming, and the fifth
one dealt with networking.  Having used Unix for nearly 3 years now, I am
just skimming though the introductory books and the one on shell programming,
and the C quick-reference will collect dust.  The price is hard to beat,
but you are required to buy at least one more book at regular price.  I
hope they have a good X book.  :-)


-- 
Jim H.
*
* James L. Henrickson                                 ujlh@sunyit.edu
* "Yet another Jim in the Linux world."  :-)
From: "ron angert" <ron.angert@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: what the 17" monitor
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:27:16 EST
Reply-To: "ron angert" <ron.angert@channel1.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

to: jgd@dixie.com

I am interested in USENET access.  As you can tell I am currently
using Channel1, and I am happy here, but always like to keep the
options open.

Let me know about Dixie.com
BTW I am N4AJT, and play in packet somewhat here in SouthWest
Virginia

Ron Angert - Riner, VA
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From: gt0449a@prism.gatech.EDU (Rob Coleman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Persistence of Vision
Date: 26 Jul 92 15:43:02 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


	On another note, I just FTP'd the whole unix installation for
the new Persistence of Vision ray tracer (v1.0), and was able
to just about compile it "right out of the box."  The only problem
occured when it tries to trap floating-point exceptions.

	Apparently the system supplies a structure detailing the type
of error that was trapped, etc (called a 'struct libm_exception').
This "error type" is stored with a set of defines (DOMAIN, etc.) that
don't appear to exist on my machine (gcc 2.2.2) or on Georgia Tech's
machine.  The virtues of trapping math errors and substituting close
approximations for the actual results is obvious, so it may be that the
implementation for such a feature is just different than what the
authors had in mind.

	Has anyone had any experience with this?
-- 
Rob Coleman ][ gt0449a@prism.gatech.edu        ][  "I think I'm going bald!"
Comp. Sci.  ][ Georgia Institute of Technology ][        -Rush/COS
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jgifford@attmail.com
Subject: DC area Linux BBS's?
Reply-To: jgifford@attmail.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 23:33:11 GMT

Hi, I am about 3-4 hours from DC/Baltimore, and about 1 hour from VA Beach.
I am looking for a BBS(free hopefully) in or near one of these ares
areas.  If you know of a BBs or other method of getting Linux files via
modem from one of these areas, please e-mail me at jim@raskol.attmail.com
I really need the latest of everything.... ;)

I appreciate any responses
Thanks,
Jim Gifford     KD4PPG
jim@raskol.attmail.com