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From: unixsys@ssg.com (Rick Emerson)
Subject: Re: Shoelace delay and console mode hacks
Organization: System Support Group
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:10:21 GMT

davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen) writes:

> In article <5F28NB5w165w@ssg.com>, unixsys@ssg.com (Rick Emerson) writes:
> 
> | ------------------------------------
> |  Customizing the Linux boot process
> | ------------------------------------
> [...]
> | All the work is done in DOS.
> 
>   I thank you for the useful info, but... DOS? To quote my youngest,
> "Yuckie-poo!" I am going home tonight and try a quick port of bpe to
> linux. If it works I'll upload it tomorrow. People sholdn't have to go
> into DOS to do things like this, it corrodes the bits!
> 
>   It's my binary editor of choice, hopefully it will port easily.

Go for it!  Michael's hack was a response to a lack of tools.  Add the tools
and make us all a little better.  <grin>

Rick


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell)
Subject: Re: New version of the SCSI drivers
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:54:18 GMT

    I downloaded the new version sources and merged them into the 0.96cpl2
tree fine, but when attempting to compile a new kernel I get problems with
the unlock_buffer routine not being found from st.c and sd.c.

    It's defined as "extern inline" in kernel/blk_drv/blk.h and then used
by end_request(), also defined (as static) in that file.

    Anyone have any idea why unlock_buffer() isn't being picked up as an
inline function?

--
    Tim Russell                 Omaha, NE              trussell@unomaha.edu
"Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child."
					-- Vice President Dan Quayle
From: unixsys@ssg.com (Rick Emerson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: xphoon
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:29:36 GMT
Organization: System Support Group

I'm having making xphoon.  It keeps complaining about not being able to find
float.h and stddef.h anywhere although they should be findable.  

Has anyone ported xphoon?  I'd like to know how you did it so I have
template for similar projects.

Rick


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jwl@sedist.cray.com (Jim Lynch)
Subject: Re: LINUX DISK AVAILBLE IN CANADA
Keywords: linux disks available
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:23:36 CDT

In article <hanson.712250512@pogo>, hanson@pogo.fnal.gov (Steve Hanson) writes:
|> In <1992Jul27.144756.18648@crd.ge.com> davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen) writes:
|> 
|> >In article <jen.712077777@unixg.ubc.ca>, jen@unixg.ubc.ca (Zhen Yu) writes:
|> 
|> >| It seems someone is filling the vacuum for those who want free-unix but have
|> >| no ftp access.
|> >| Comments, anyone?
|   (stuff deleted)
|> $35 subscription.
|> 	We are also working on a packaged version of 0.96C+ which
|> will also include kernel sources, the full gcc package, X11,
|> and some other stuff.  It will be ready some time in August
|> and will include printed install instructions, etc.  It will
|> be $30.
|> 	PLEASE note that we don't really make any money on this,
|> we just do it for people who would like access to Linux and who
|> don't have access to the Internet.
|> 	US MAIL - Hanson COmputer Consulting
|> 1931 W. Wilson St. Suite 342
|> Batavia, IL 60510
|> 
|> WAFFLE BBS system for Linux support (708)879-8633.
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il.  (708)840-8043
|> hanson@pogo.fnal.gov or hanson@fnal.fnal.gov

Only one person's opinion, but...
PLEASE be sure you emphasize that this is a beta product.  We really don't
want folks to be turned off because they expect a fully mature product.


You may be doing that, but I couldn't tell from your post.  In any case I 
do approve of your effort, however. 

As if my approval has any merit. 8^)
This is NOT intended to be a flame or negative post!

Jim.
-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Southeast District, Phone: (404) 631-2254, Email: jwl@sedist.cray.com
Suite 270, 200 Westpark Drive, Peachtree City, GA 30269
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: kk@cs.tu-berlin.de (Kolja Kaehler)
Subject: Xaw & shared libs 
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 23:56:47 GMT


I'm currently playing with the athena widget stuff, and found something odd:

I can't compile my applications or some simple demo program from the mit
distribution with shared libraries (-static works fine); they segfault
right away. What really confuses me: 
I compiled some things like xtetris, gxditview with shared libs and they work
like a charm ... any Ideas ?

	Kolja

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kolja Kaehler                                            <kk@cs.tu-berlin.de>
From: ramirez@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: yacc and lex
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:47:38 GMT
Organization: NYU Medical Center, New York, NY 10016, USA

Hello all,

	I would like to know if anybody has ported yacc and lex over to linux. 
If yes, please let me know where I can find it.

Thank you
Edwin
ramirez@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu
From: callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: What the 17" monitor reviews never tell you
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:54:22 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

Just a thought:
Don't buy a monitor strictly on the basis of a review in a PC-focused magazine.
At the very least, look at reviews in the Mac magazines (MacUser's a good
place to start); they've been dealing with hi-res, 24-bit color for quite
some time now, and they do mention the moire' effects, and other neat
"features" like that. There are other good sources for reviews of hi-res
color monitors; unfortunately, I can't think of any off the top of my
head...
(BTW--that doesn't mean don't use the PC-mag reviews--it just means get a
second opinion...)
				James

James P. Callison       Microcomputer Coordinator        OU Law Library 
Callison@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu   /\        Callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor
	constellation!biglaw!callison@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu
DISCLAIMER: I'm not an engineer, but I play one at work...
	Lawyers get you out'n the kind of trouble you'd never get in 
		if there was no lawyers. -- Cowboy logic
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tree@midget.towson.edu (Denise Tree)
Subject: X11 and et4000 cfg.
Reply-To: tree@midget.towson.edu (Denise Tree)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 02:42:29 GMT


I bought a cheap et4000 card at a swap meet today ($90) and using the brute force
ignoring homework method I configured it to display 1024x768 and a few other modes.

The clocks.exe utility reports 25 28 31 36 40 41 50 65 but I can only get usable modes
from 28 36 and 65 dot clocks... I'm confused because I seem to be abble to call the
65 anything, I tried 66,67 and 68 for instance and my display remained the same.

The bios on this card is 9/90 and I'm using it with a Nanao flexscan 8060s. The manual
for this reports that the horizontal scanning frequency is 15.70 to 35khz. and the 
vertical is 50 to 80 Hz. How do I use this info... the tutorials talk about needing
a figure in Mhz? 

My main problem seems to be the horizontal display size, it just shrinks too much. 

It seems like 1024x768 is really just too tiny to be useful on a 14" monitor bur I can't
get a decent 800x600ish configuration...can the horizontal size and slight, but annoying
barrel shape be configured away with more work? 

Should I have gotten a more recent et4000 card? A two year old bios seems a little old
but I'm not really sure my monitor would support any faster clocks.

Uh, Oh I'm really rambling. One more: HOW do I make my windows a different clor other than
black on eyeball searing glacial WHITE? I set up a .twmrc and changed every other color
but default background and default foreground remain the same (black on white).

Thanks to all involved for this incredible tool. I took my very first COSC course this summer
an upper level C programming course and though I'm a bio major I'm doing very well, due
in large part to the exposure to a more advanced level of computing that LInux has 
made available to me. It's wonderful.

..................
Denise
tree@midget.towson.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jgreen@modcomp.uucp (Joe Green)
Subject: Re: Termios question: Semantics of VMIN/VTIME on Linux/SunOS ?
Organization: MODCOMP, an AEG company
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:20:03 GMT

torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds) writes:
>As I already mentioned, I'm very open to changing the behaviour: but I
>need to have actual "chapter and verse" from the posix standard before I
>start changing things.  The current behaviour works with a lot of
>programs, and conforms to the only docs I have, so I really need some
>strong arguments to change it. 

It looks like the current behavior is correct.  In fact, the description
you gave is in almost the same format as the POSIX spec--is the Sun man
page formatted this way?

The actual description from ISO/IEC 9945-1:1990 (also IEEE Std 1003.1-1990)
is:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
7.1.1.7.1  Case A: MIN > 0, TIME > 0

In this case TIME serves as an interbyte timer and is activated after
the first byte is received.  Since it is an interbyte timer, it is reset
after a byte is received.  The interaction between MIN and TIME is as
follows:  as soon as one byte is received, the interbyte timer is
started.  If MIN bytes are received before the interbyte timer expires
(remember that the timer is reset upon receipt of each byte), the read
is satisfied.  If the timer expires before MIN bytes are received, the
characters received to that point are returned to the user.  Note that
if TIME expires, at least one byte shall be returned because the timer
would not have been enabled unless a byte was received...

7.1.1.7.2  Case B: MIN > 0, TIME = 0

In this case, since the value of TIME is zero, the timer plays no role
and only MIN is significant.  A pending read is not satisfied until MIN
bytes are received (i.e., the pending read shall block until MIN bytes
are received) ...

7.1.1.7.3  Case C: MIN = 0, TIME > 0

In this case since MIN = 0, TIME no longer represents an interbyte
timer.  It now serves as a read timer that is activated as soon as the
read() function is processed.  A read is satisfied as soon as a single
byte is received or the read timer expires.  Note that in this case if
the timer expires, no bytes shall be returned...

7.1.1.7.4  Case D: MIN = 0, TIME = 0

The minimum of either the number of bytes requested or the number of
bytes currently available shall be returned without waiting for more
bytes to be input...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

The one question I have is regarding returning when the number of bytes
requested has been satisfied (the "buffer size" is reached).  Only "Case D"
is explicitly required to do this.  Should cases "A" and "B" wait until MIN
is reached, even if fewer bytes have been requested?  (I think this is
probably an unusual situation.)

--
Joe Green				jgreen@modcomp.UUCP
Modular Computer Systems, Inc.		modcomp!jgreen@uunet.UU.NET
					uunet!modcomp!jgreen
From: michaelw@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Michael Will)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: List of BBS's carrying Linux
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:37:44 GMT
Organization: Point of Presence Hamburg

Another BBS in Hamburg, West-Germany is:

+49-40-702-7454

It runns on an amiga, since all the dos-machines are in use for
working-reasons :) as soon as Busy has got some money, he will be
providing a better 386 with a linux-system...

The modem is a ZyXEL with V22b, V32 and V32bis, MNP5 and V42bis.

So the maximum-speed will be 14400/14400 :) should be all right...

(From within germany call 040-702-7454)

MfG, Michael Will
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: welshm@snail.rtp.dg.com (Matt Welsh)
Subject: linux.temp: Linux bug report template
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 13:44:53 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.

### This is "linux.temp"-- the bug report template used by ibug to report
### Linux bugs. If you're on a UNIX system, you can just use the 'ibug'
### program posted to comp.os.linux. If not, save this template and fill
### it out and mail it to ml-linux-bugs@dg-rtp.dg.com by hand.
### 
### Lines beginning with a '#' will be removed in the bug report.
### Please post your problem to comp.os.linux and/or verify the problem as
### a bug yourself before submission.

To: ml-linux-bugs@dg-rtp.dg.com
Subject: LINUX BUG REPORT
Date:

From:       <your complete e-mail address>
Revision:   <replace with rev and patchlevel of Linux kernel>
Setup:      <one line description of your system's setup>
File:       <program or file, along with revision, that's causing problems>

Summary:    <one line summary of problem>

Description:

  <Description of problem, as many lines as you want>

---cut here-----

Matt Welsh    welshm@dg-rtp.dg.com        ...!mcnc!rti!dg-rtp!welshm
UNIX-SQA, Data General Corporation RTP        Office: +1 919 248 6070
  "Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball."
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bibhas@pico.engr.mun.ca (Bibhas Bhattacharya)
Subject: Two problems.
Keywords: linux
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 00:51:10 GMT


Some of the problems I couldn't figure out:

1] I used "more" to see a file which turned out to be binary.  At the end,
every character thrown out to that console was illegible extended
characters. Logging out did not restore things.
2] When I add a user, everything goes fine, except the user can not set
his own password. On running "passwd" the error is "Can't open passwd
file". As a root I didn't have this problem.
Any help is appreciated.
Bibhas.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: unixsys@ssg.com (Rick Emerson)
Subject: Re: Bad blocks, inodes and .badblocks -> Make root inode 2
Organization: System Support Group
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:44:25 GMT

jes@grendel.demon.co.uk (Jim Segrave) writes:

> 
> Following is a suggestion for a minor change to the filesystem which (I hope)
> should make the system slightly more robust.
> 
> ----------
> [change and justification omitted]
> Obviously this will also require that fsck and mkfs are updated, but those
> are fairly minor changes (which I would be willing to do.)

I like the idea and agree with your reasoning.  
 
> Cheers,
> 
> Derek Fawcus
> 
> A utility could be written to allow swapping a pair of inodes would
> allow users who don't wish to re-mkfs their discs to move .badblocks to
> inode 1
> 

Now, if you were to also add a non-destructive mkfs to detect new spots that
are marginal (or worse!), I suspect that your name would be placed in
nomination for public acclaimation and perhaps even presented for the
Birthday Honors List (right after Owen for coming up with mcc-interim)!
<grin>

Rick


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From: tyrone@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (tyrone.shiu)
Subject: New to Linux, need help.
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:22:13 GMT
Keywords: linux

Hi:
I am new to Linux.  Just install Linux using MCC interim version, get the
0.96c + the two patches and get it to compile no problem (except I have
to explicit make a directory 'msdos' under fs before applying patch 2).

I have a few problems after booting up from the new Image.

1. When booting up it said I have 3 tty serial ports: 1 on irq 4 and
   2 onirq 3.  I know I have only two serial ports on irq 4 irq 3.
   Is it possible something is wrong?

2. The vi I got from MCC interim add an extra blank space everytime I do an
   insert (command 'i') of blank space.  Do I need to download a new binary
   and where can I find this.

3. I ran a program call TOP and get a segmentation fault, nore core however.
   Any idea? (BTW, I donwload the 0.96b verision of ps from source).

4. Also, when the system boots up, it said no bus mouse detected.
   I am using the mouse port that comes with the ATI Graphics Ultra board.
   Any idea?  I am planning to upgrade to X.  Did any get the Graphics
   Ultra Board to work?

5. I am new to GNU stuff too. Where can I get info, FAQ for all the GNU tools?
   I don't want to flood this news group with unrelated news item.

6. I saw some news about using extended and MSDOS file systems and the source
   indicated that it has something like this but I can't find any doc. about
   how to use it, e.g. mount the system, etc.  Can any give me some pointers
   or is it something still in ALPHA and I am not suppose to use it?

7. Is there any tools, ways to make all my executables using shared libraries?

If it help this is my system configuration:

DTK 386-25, 8MB RAM with 172 IDE drive using ATI Graphics Ultra VGA 1MB
with the mouse on the Video board. A CTX SVGA monitor (1024x768).

132 MB for DOS/Windows 3.1, 32 MB for Linux and 8 MB for swap.

I would like to say MCC interim makes installation very easy and all the
tools are right there in a single package.

One comment, the directories in banjo and tsx-11 are a little bit confusion.

+--------------------------------+ 
| Tyrone Shiu                    |  
| Phone: 908-548-7852            |
| Email: tyrone@cbnewsi.att.com  |
+--------------------------------+
** I speak for myself not my company. **

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: orman@iastate.edu (David L Orman)
Subject: Can an EXT fs be the root fs?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 07:10:36 GMT

can the extended filesystem be used on the root partition?

Ive been fidling with this for several hours now and cant seem to make
it work..  I end up getting

magic match failed
kernal panic

and then a lockup, or something real close to that.  I tried editing the
fstab table, but after I thought about it I dont think that sould help
anyway as it would have to have mounted the partion in order to read my
edited file.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Patrick Graham <Graham@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL>
Subject: Re: ibug, Linux Bug Reporting program
Reply-To: Graham@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:12:16 GMT

welshm@snail.rtp.dg.com (Matt Welsh) writes:

|It's here: This is "ibug", the bug reporting program that I've
|written to handle reporting of bugs for Linux over e-mail.
|lots of stuff includeing shar archive deleted

It wasn't clear until down in the shar archive that this utility
is not meant to be run on Linux, but on your unix computer which
you use to connect to comp.os.linux. The program fills out a template,
and if the host you use to connect to comp.os.linux is not a UNIX host
then you have to fill it out by hand.

I have a suggestion. It wasn't clear if the program was tested on Linux
or not, but either way, I think the "bug reporting program" whether it's
ibug or something else should reside on an individuals Linux machine,
maybe even part of the rootimage disk.

When you find a "bug" you can immediately run the bug reporting program
to record all of the necessary details, then after determining through this
group that it actually is a bug, then you can use your favorite comms program
to transfer your bug report from your Linux box to your host to mail it to
the responsible person(s).

The target machine for the bug reporting program should be Linux, not the
host that you use to access comp.os.linux.

Thats my suggestion,

Pat Graham
Graham@Dockmaster.ncsc.mil
Organization: Doctoral student, Statistics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:09:31 -0400 
From: Tao Jiang <tj2n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Su


Hi,

When I tried to use su as non-root,  I got something wrong as:
Su: getgid operation not permitted.

Anyone can give me some helps?

Thanks in advance!

TJ
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: doogie@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Jeff House)
Subject: Re: /dev/ttys? not responding
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:32:55 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.103716.29243@klaava.Helsinki.FI> you write:
>In article <1992Jul22.235626.17486@ncsu.edu> doogie@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Jeff House) writes:
>>
>>I did the following: [ edited ]
>>
>>echo "ATDT5551111" > /dev/ttys0
>>
>> [ some more editing ]  Neither case dialed, and
>>when I did:
>>
>>cat /dev/ttys0
>>
>>"ATDT5551111" was echoed.  My modem seems not to be accepting commands.
>
>This is pretty much what should happen: hayes-compatible modems expect a
>carriage return ('\r') after the command, and the above just sends the
>normal unix line-feed instead.  As the modem is echoing you, you do have
>a good connection to it, so things should work after correcting the
>above to:
>
>	$ echo -e -n "atdt5551111\015"
>
>or similar. Or get kermit, and type the above in directly.
>
>		Linus


Thanks Linus, and all that responded... It's working now!

(Yet another wonderful day has passed with another answered question
from this group.  You are all great!)

-Doogie
From: doug@owl.isis.org (Douglas W Murray)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Missing include files?
Keywords: stat types include files gcc.2.2.2
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 01:31:58 GMT
Organization: Quoi! me organized?

Hi all... Its me again...

I copied over to my system man.tar.Z and man2.tar.Z.  I attempted to 
compile the man.c program that was included only to find out that its 
looking for two include files that I dont seem to have.  The names are:

        types.h & stats.h

Any suggestions to where I might locate these files?  As well, what 
other utilities could I use to man the man pages?

Thank you (in advance)

Doug!
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: monkey@z.eecs.umich.edu (Xinbing Liu)
Subject: New questions (was: Help a linux newcomer please)
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:33:10 GMT

Thanks to all who sent me email about my questions. Most are very helpful. A
few said all the answers were in FAQ.  I disagree.  I did read thru FAQ.  But
nowhere in FAQ mentions where to get the command 'ln' which is needed for the
mtools to work.  And I did not find in FAQ how to setup new accounts.
Anyway, now I've got mtools to work, and I can avoid the long and tedious
process of rawriting to floppies.  Now I have new questions:

1. How do I set new path?  In unix I do "set path = ($path /mypath)", but
this does not seem to work here.

2. How do I change the prompt?  Again in unix it's "set prompt="myprompt" ",
and this does not work either.

More questions later.