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From: martin@datacomm.ucc.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick)
Subject: Re: American Commercial Shortwave Broadcasting
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, OK
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 13:38:56 GMT


There is no legal reason why commercial shortwave broadcasting can't be done
in the United States.  There have been several stations which have started
and gone bust over the last 50 years.  During the last 10 years, we have
had WRNO, New Orleans, and KUSW, in Salt Lake City who had a full range of
commercial programming.

	There are two big problems in doing this.  Some time ago, the FCC
established a spectrum use fee schedule which meant that broadcasters had to
pay a certain amount of money to the United States treasury for every
transmitter-hour of time on the air.  The other problem is that nobody listens.

	Unfortunately, shortwave listening is a very small part of the
broadcast listenership.  Most people want to hear a stereophonic signal
which appears on the same place on the dial all the time.  They don't want
anything to do with the fades, noises, and frequency-hopping which is part
of shortwave listening.

	Usually, after a few struggling years, the commercial broadcaster
sells the facilities to a religious broadcaster who knows even less about
what he is doing than the commercial operator did.  

	While I have nothing against religion, I am always disappointed to
se another religious station show up on the crowded shortwave bands because
resources are so limited and there is already a large amount of this sort of
material on the air.  I suspect that even religious broadcasters will realize
that shortwave is not effective and go to some other mechanism such as hiring
time on transmitters in the target area.

	In short, commercial shortwave broadcasting has been tried many times
in the United States and has not really been successful.  

	P.S.  I would love to see CNN run a shortwave station, but, for the
reasons already discussed, it isn't likely any time soon.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ   Stillwater, OK
O.S.U. Computer Center Data Communications Group
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From: mellob@cary111.its.rpi.edu (Elmer Fudd)
Subject: Speaking of DAK.....
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Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 21:29:19 GMT

   While browsing the 1993 Passport to World Band Radio radio reviews, I

	ran into this note that I thought i might post for those planning
                          	
	to purchase radio stuff from DAK. 


	"DAK, 'King of the Closeouts.` went into Chapter Eleven creditor-
	protection proceedings in 1992. Both our most recent ordering 
	experience and other such experiences reported to us indicate this
	firm sometimes takes orders for items it claims are in stock, charges
	the customers card, then weeks later sends not the product, but rather
	a notice indicating the product is not in stock. Caveat Emptor!"



		Let the buyer beware!



	Brett Mellor			mellob@rpi.edu
	Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute


	 

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Hi there,

I am yet another beginner, I would appreciate information on the
least expensive receivers able to pickup Middle East shortwave stations.
I am in the Chicago land area and have an old Sony ICF-7600AW but it
rarely pickup a middle east country.

Any recommendation! Thanks in advance.

Mohammad Assami
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In <1993Jan7.163841.2808@unislc.uucp> dold@unislc.uucp (Clarence Dold) writes:

>From article <segross.6@uci.edu>, by segross@uci.edu (STEVE GROSS):

>> I think I remember reading here a few months ago about DAK going out of

>Not at all.  Deathmongers read what they want.

DAK did, in fact, declare Chapter 11 bankruptcy some months ago, but has
been managing to keep in business.  Basically, a lot of the suppliers and
other companies dealing with DAK have decided to continue doing so,
figuring that keeping DAK in business will get them (the creditors) more
of their money than putting DAK out of business.

However, if you look at the filings and how much variou sgroups were owed,
and how much different groups were paid since the filing, it starts to
look a bit strange.

SO, the recommendation: pay by credit card (which most people would do,
anyway.)  This way, you can block the charge if you don't get the product
or service.  (minor caveat: there is some sort of strange limit, where if
you live within ?100? miles of the company, but I doubt this would apply here)

dannyb@panix.com
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In article <6JAN199312274593@utrc.utc.com> wjm@utrc.utc.com (Bill) writes:

>I'm completely new to the world of short wave.  Someone gave me an old Radio
>shack DX160 receiver to start me off.  All the controls are straightforward
>except for using the 'band spread'.

>Apparently it is for fine tuning.  If so, why are only certain frequencies
>listed on it?  Just how do I use it?

>Also, it seems as if there are 2 bands that cover pretty much the same
>range; .4 to 1.5mhz I think, (don't have the unit with me right now).

>The person who gave it to me doesn't have the manual anymore and doesn't
>remember how to use it.

>Rather than try and order a manual from Radio Shack (Don't know if its even
>available),  could someone familiar with this unit pleas give some
>pointers?

>Thanks,
>Bill Mazeika     WJM@UTRC.UTC.COM

I've still got my old DX-160 and a manual, too, I think.  E-mail your
address to segross@uci.edu and I'll photocopy the manual and mail it to you.

Steve
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From: cb@tamarack13.timbuk (Chris Brewster)
Subject: Re: Iranian broadcast info wanted
In-reply-to: doug@ve6bc.ampr.ab.ca's message of Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:44:44 GMT
Organization: pubs
Date: 11 Jan 93 11:09:24 CST

Douglas MacKintosh writes:

>  Can someone please e-mail me with any info they have on the frequencies or
>  times of any shortwave broadcasts (in English) from Iran?

0030-0130    9022 (Americas), 9720, 15260 (N America & C America)
1030-1130    7115, 11715, 11930, 11940 (mideast)
1130-1230    9525, 9685, 11745 (mideast)
1930-2030    6140, 9022 (Europe)
2330-0030    11930 (C America)

>  Also, what is the name of the Iranian shortwave service?

Voice of the Islamic Republic
IRIB External Services
PO box 3333
Tehran, Iran
FAX: +98(21) 291 095.
Contact: Hamid Yesamin or Hameed Barimani

Above info from "Passport".

Chris Brewster
cb@cray.com
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KCBI
411 Ryan Plaza Drive
Arlington, Texas  76011
Attention: David Briggs
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
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Subject: Re: Grundig Satellit 700 experience
Date: 9 Jan 93 05:28:07 GMT
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In article <zweig.726455225@dubius.cs.uiuc.edu> zweig@cs.uiuc.edu writes:
>I am torn between a Sony ICF-SW77 (I am a hacker, so the screwy operating
>system doesn't frighten me) and a Grundig Satellit 700. Does anyone have
>either: (a) firsthand experience with the '700 to relate or (b) pointers to
>some site that has rec.radio.shortwave archives that might include such
>experience? The "Welcome to r.r.s" posting I read didn't mention an archive.
>
>I am especially concerned about the distortion that Passport mentions with the
>SSB and synchronous detection modes. Money is really not a concern, and I want
>a radio that sounds real good. I'm not as interested in DXing -- I mostly want
>something that can pull in signals (I'm in California) and make them sound
>nice.

Unless you need all the sophisticated alphanumerics and memory access, I
strongly urge you to look at the Lowe HF-150. If your last sentence really
sums up your needs, you owe it to yourself to give this a listen connected
to a Radio Shaft Minimus-7 speaker.



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In article <8305@news.duke.edu> klg@panda.mc.duke.edu (Kim Greer -- rjj)
writes:

>  Does anyone have a valid street address for KCBI in Dallas?  The USPS says
>that "Dallas, TX 75221" is insufficient.  Thanks.
Call Information (xxx)5551212
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Can anyone suggest or initate a way to stop this inundation of the newsgroup
with these messages indicating the mailbox is full? Or is Netcom the
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Robert Smits Writes:


>The only problem with some digital radios is that they tune in 10KHz
>steps, while you often fins SW stations are at 5KHz intervals. It's no
>big problem, just use two crystals in the converter - one 5KHz away from
>the other, and switch from one to the other to cover the entire range of
>frequencies you're interested in.

   I thought maybe this converter would work like one of those
   FM Converters I used to use, where the converter would do the
   tuning and broadcast it on one frequency on your AM radio.
   Do you actually have to use the radio to tune through the SW
   range? How do you know where you are tuning?

                        Thanks.
   franzis@evax.gdc.com
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!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 006, 01/06/93
10.7 FLUX=131    90-AVG=139        SSN=126      BKI=3432 2222  BAI=011
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  BOU-DEV=039,044,026,016,019,012,019,010   DEV-AVG=023 NT     SWF=00:000
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  PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 2335UT     PCA-MIN= -0.4DB @ 0955UT    PCA-AVG= -0.0DB
BOUTF-MAX=55427NT @ 0213UT   BOUTF-MIN=55395NT @ 1824UT  BOUTF-AVG=55415NT
GOES7-MAX=P:+111NT@ 1831UT   GOES7-MIN=N:+003NT@ 1117UT  G7-AVG=+079,+029,+010
GOES6-MAX=P:+133NT@ 1830UT   GOES6-MIN=E:-010NT@ 2216UT  G6-AVG=+096,-001,+039
 FLUXFCST=STD:135,140,145;SESC:135,140,145 BAI/PAI-FCST=010,010,015/012,012,015
    KFCST=2233 3322 2233 3322  27DAY-AP=015,011   27DAY-KP=3233 4332 1224 2433
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In article <1993Jan7.213817.1@engvms.unl.edu> tmrdpsrs@engvms.unl.edu writes:
>       I have been reading the posts about synchronous detection and (with my
>very limited knowledge of the subject) it seems that it is an automatic form
of
>Exalted Carrier Selectable Sideband (ECSS) reception.  My question is: what
>does one gain from synchro detection except having the radio automatically
>pick out the best sideband???  There must be more to it than that because I
can
>manually choose between upper and lower sideband and decide which sounds best!
>What else am I missing????

>-Ron Synowicki
>TMRDPSRS@ENGVMS.UNL.EDU

The basic difference between synchronous detection and Exalted carrier
(using a product detector) is the synchronous detector has a phase lock
loop which locks to the incoming carrier. The sound quality is much better
than exalted carrier because the phase of the oscillator used in the
product detector is of propper phase with the original transmitted signal.
Exalted carrier detection the Beat frequency oscillator is not lock,
it is free running, and gives a kinda of donald duck sound to the audio.

Many synchronous detectors also incorporate an audio phase shift network
which will provide upper and lower sideband selection. This is a
different method than recievers with standard product detectors. Here
upper and lower sideband selection is actually achieved before detection,
at the I.F. Level. The synchronous detctor does it at audio level. The
ultimate in interference rejection is achieved when both are used at
the same time.


I have designed and built a synchronous detector to be used with
recievers with a 455 khz I.F. output. It provides about 30-40 db
of unwanted sideband rejection. If you are electronically inclined,
and want a copy of the circuit, send SASE to Chuck Hanavin, PO Box
1034, Newark, DE 19715
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On Wed, 6 Jan 1993 09:09:21 -0600 Will Martin said:
>Mine came yesterday (Jan 5.) I waited to call in my order until December
>28th just so the lag time between charging and shipping would not be
>that long... I think this year they were letting the pre-pub orders go
>on later than in preceeding years, but the only place I recall seeing
>the announcement that the pre-pub price was good to 12/31/92 was in the
>Grove catalog, in a footnote to the WRTH listing in there... I don't
>think the Monitoring Times ad mentioned this.

Thanks to everyone for their post on my question.  I guess mine will
show up sometime soon.
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From: jcarroll@ferris.cray.com (Jeff Carroll)
Subject: Re: Panasonic RF-B45?
Originator: jcarroll@ferris
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:22:52 CST


In article <1993Jan9.203819.23093@sci.ccny.cuny.edu>, jhuang@sci.ccny.cuny.edu (Jian Huang) writes:
> In article <1993Jan4.220909.4460@afterlife.ncsc.mil> scmckay@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Scott McKay) writes:
> >In article <C079Ku.6wo@eis.calstate.edu> tdenbo@eis.calstate.edu (Tom Denbo) writes:
> >>I saw this radio at a local retailer for $200.  How does it compare with
> >>the Sangean ATS-803A and the Sony ICF s?
> >I'm not sure about the comparison, but I like this little radio. It has great 
> >reception with enough bells and whistles to suit me (FM [88kHz-108kHz], SSB, 
> >fine tuning, scanning, 20 channel memory [10 for AM and 10 for FM], sleep,
> >alarm).
> >I recently puchased this radio from a mail order place for $179 and have more
> >recently seen it for $169. 
> >-Scott
> 
>  According to the PASSPORT TO WORLD BAND RADIO the
> performance of both radios are almost same. But Panasonic
> dosen't have stereo for FM and illumination for keypad. The
> J&R Music in NYC sell it for 159 + S/H.

Yeah, but I bet you don't get a sore shoulder from lugging the Panasonic
radio around like I do with my DX-440/803A.
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Yu Hong Wey writes:

   > It seems that Kol Israel now requires listeners to send them a
   > few IRCs in order for them to send their programme schedules on
   > a regular basis, due to budget problem. ...

Combined with similar news from Canada and elsewhere, this makes me
wonder how much importance governments now put on shortwave
broadcasting.  In North America very few people seem to use it as a
"normal" medium, as evidenced by the attention paid to the DX hobby on
the English-language services.  During the cold war, shortwave was
treated as a potent propaganda tool, which is how Cuba still treats it.
I gather that shortwave is still important on a daily basis in many
parts of the world, but I wonder if it is losing support.  Does anyone
try to monitor audience sizes and so forth?  If this medium exists only
for DX hobbyists, it loses its real reason for being: as an open-access
medium of international communication.  I see nothing to replace it for
this function, since such media as satellite FM and TV will be by nature
much more mainstream, big-budget, and corporate (and there's less chance
of receiving things intended for another audience).

Somewhat related question: how and why does UK pay for a service as
gigantic as the BBC!?  I don't see the payoff for the sponsors; it must
cost plenty.

Chris Brewster
cb@cray.com
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I live in Dallas and just called to get the address:

KCBI
411 Ryan Plaza
Arlington,TX 76011
817/792-3800

enjoy,
Maurice

Kim Greer -- rjj (klg@panda.mc.duke.edu) wrote:

:   Does anyone have a valid street address for KCBI in Dallas?  The USPS says
: that "Dallas, TX 75221" is insufficient.  Thanks.

: kg

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: Durham, NC 27710                       fax: 919-681-5636

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"I'd buy one!"
From: evilandi@vnet.ibm.com (Andrew Oakley)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 09:46:30 GMT
Subject: RIP Radio Luxembourg
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   Did anyone tune into the very last broadcast of Radio Luxembourg's
English Service, on Wednesday 30/12/92? Wasn't it sad? <weep>

   From my home in Shropshire, the 1440kHz ("The Great 208" metres) came
in as loud and proud as it ever had, with authentic propogation to add
athmosphere!

   It was a great shame to see the end of the UK's first commercial radio
station, especially only a year before its 60th birthday, but I reconciled
myself with the thought that Luxy's sister station, Atlantic 252, is still
flying the flag.

   PS: Does anyone know where Mike Hollis and other Luxy DJ's are working
now, if anywhere?

Andrew Oakley <evilandi@vnet.ibm.com> (JANET: <evilandi@com.ibm.vnet>)
IBM Warwick, UK (I speak FROM IBM, not FOR IBM)
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In a previous article, tdenbo@eis.calstate.edu (Tom Denbo) says:

>I saw this radio at a local retailer for $200.  How does it compare with
>the Sangean ATS-803A and the Sony ICF s?

I just received one of these as a gift, but I've never seen any of Sangean's
products, and the only Sony I've ever used is the ICF-7600 that I inherited
a very long time ago.  (I'm also a complete idiot^H^H^H^H^Hnovice about
shortwave; I only discovered today that the reason that I was getting such
lousy reception was that I had the "DX/Local" switch set to "Local"....)
Anyway, with that disclaimer, here's a description of the RF-B45:

Frequencies:    144-288 kHz LW (9 kHz tuning)
                520-1610 kHz MW (9 or 10 kHz tuning)
                1620-29995 kHz SW (5 kHz tuning)
                87.5-108.0 MHz FM (0.5 MHz tuning)

LCD display displays either the current time (when the unit is turned off)
or the frequency tuned to, the signal strength (on a scale of 0-3), and
several status flags like the band in use and whether features like standby
are engaged.  There is a "standby" feature that basically lets the unit act
as a clock radio, turning on at a specified time, and a sleep feature that
automatically shuts off the unit after a certain time elapses.

Tunes digitally with a keypad or "+" and "-" keys rather than by turning
a dial, although the volume and fine tuning use thumbwheels rather than keys.
There is also an "auto tuning" key that scans sequentially for signals
with a strength of 1+.  A three-position switch on the side selects between
"fixed" tuning with the fine tuning dial disengaged, "variable" tuning
using the fine tuning dial, and SSB reception also using the fine tuning
dial.  A "hold" button locks out the keyboard to prevent accidental changes
or battery drain due to the power key being accidentally hit.

18 channel memory (9 FM, 9 AM LW/MW/SW) with "memory search" function that
cycles around through your set of saved frequencies looking for signals.

High/low tone switch
DX/Local reception switch
External antenna jack and external antenna to improve reception
DC adapter jack

How does it compare with the others?  I've never seen the others, so I
quite frankly have no idea.  I'm happy with mine, but since I didn't
actually spend any of my own money on it, that evaluation should be
taken with a grain of salt.

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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:42:07 EST
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Hi Netters

Can any of you suggest me the best listening time and freq for

1. TWR Bonaire
2. AWR Costa Rica

thank you

thiagarajan.s