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From: object@ibmpcug.co.uk (Ken Tough)
Subject: Re: Sources of amino acids
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Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:49:32 GMT

In article <m8nncqq.rfelix@netcom.com> 
rfelix@netcom.com (Robbie Felix) writes:
>>
>>	There's been much talk lately on the body's need for amino
>>acids in order to re-build muscle tissue.  A lot of companies
>>are now selling amino acids supplements and making tons of
>>of money off this "new" discovery.
>>
>>	I'm not interested in buying supplements of any kind but
>>I'm interested to know what natural foods contain these amino acids.
>>
>I think all food contains amino acids. The supplements are just highly
>concentrated and focused on the 22 "essential ones". Generally
>speaking , they get the amino acids from soy powder, eggs, powdered
>milk, or other main stream protein foods.


  Basically, all proteins in food will be composed of amino acids.
  The amino acids are building blocks for the larger molecules.
  One interesting fact about these "amino-acid supplements" or
  "amino-acid fortified" foods is that they can be extremely dangerous.
  Some company recently genetically engineered some food plant to increase
  the content of L-tryptophan.  Well, it did that, but it actually caused
  a combination of two stereo-isomers of the same amino acid  (same
  molecule, different shape). 
  Stereo-isomers of amino acids can be *extremely* dangerous, since
  L forms are almost always the naturally occuring ones.  Certain 
  bacteria, etc., can produce stereo-chemically different amino acids,
  and these form extremely virulent poisons, since your body is unable
  to handle them.  This sort of molecule can interact with your body's
  immune system, which keys in very heavily on the molecule's shape.

  The company was forced to withdraw the product from the U.S. market,
  but not before 25 people died from it.  (Sorry, I don't remember what
  it was.)  L-tryptophan itself isn't to blame, since it naturally occurs 
  in loads of places (the "sleepy-drug" in warm milk for example).

   Anyway, the point is, avoid all this un-natural stuff.  There is no
   need for anyone eating a balanced diet to worry about boosting the
   content of naturally occurring amino acids.
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: C.A.Blunsdon@lut.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Red wine allergy
Reply-To: C.A.Blunsdon@lut.ac.uk (CA Blunsdon)
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 09:59:05 GMT

Anyone know what might be the basis of an allergy to red wine,
and what other 'foods' might be implicated? Thanks in advance.

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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re:  Good basic book on nutrition
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:34:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Sep10.133418.23817
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <vdtnxl+.artemis@netcom.com> artemis@netcom.com (Michelle Dick) writes:
>One was her statement that all diets should contain at least one
>tablespoon of polyunsaturated fat.  If one follows the guidelines of
>eating a diet with equal amounts of mono, poly, and saturated fat,

Are these HER guidelines?

>this would mean that all diets should contain at least 39 grams of fat
>(26 grams if you eliminate all saturated fat).  Granted very very few
>people would get this low, but some diets on the market today
>recommend 10% of calories from fat, which wouldn't yield 1 tablespoon
>of polyunsaturated fat unless the individual was consuming 2340
>calories or more per day (3510 calories if saturated fat is also
>consumed).  This would make these diets actually dangerous if 1
>tablespoon was indeed the bodily requirement.

I really think you've taken her recommendations much too literally
and extrapolated them well outside of what she's saying.  It's certainly
not the case that everyone needs a tablespoon of polyunsaturated fat a day.

>Another is her very strong bias against msg, saccharin, and aspartame.
>She presents the anti case in some depth, but only comments on
>dissenting opinions in a backhanded way.  E.g.: when commenting on
>complaints about aspartame, she says "...the Council on Scientific
>Affairs of the [AMA], *an organization not noted for aggressive action
>to protect the public health*, has concluded that ' available evidence
>suggests that consumption of aspartame by normal humans is safe and is
>not associated with serious adverse health effects.'"  Also, in
>discussing MSG she tells a long tale about Chinese Restaurant Syndrome
>but fails to mention that no double blind study has been able to
>support the complaints.

Interesting.  I'll have to take another look; this didn't stick in my mind.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Xref: sparky sci.med.nutrition:299 rec.food.veg:8803
From: mrl@nerus.pfc.mit.edu
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition,rec.food.veg
Subject: RE: VEGETARIAN DIET
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:37:04 GMT
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER

In a previous article, dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) wrote:
> 
>Zinc: most beans and legumes are good sources of zinc.  Wheat is, too,
>but wheat bran and whole wheat contains phytates, which render much of
>the zinc unavailable.  Wheat germ is a good source.
> 

Having had problems with zinc deficiency during my vegan days, I question
whether beans are a good source.  I have never seen that listed in my books,
and besides, one doesn't normally eat enough beans to get a significant amount
of zinc from them.  I have heard that leavening breaks down the phytates, so
bread would have more zinc available.  Why is wheat germ immune to the phytate
problem, or am I reading your message wrong?  Nuts and seeds (particularly
pumpkin seeds) are supposedly high in zinc, but then also in fat.  Eventually,
I gave up and started taking zinc supplements to solve the problem.  Dairy
products do contain zinc also, but I would recommend supplements before
recommending eating dairy.

Mark
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: cath@stud.cs.uit.no (Catherine Sundnes)
Subject: Beta carotene in carrots.. 
Keywords: beta carotene, carrot, A-vitamins
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 12:59:09 GMT

I saw a neutrician (is that the correct word for a professional making
diets?) the other day because I was worried I didn't get enough proteins in
my food (I always get so depressed when the hair-loss increases), and wanted 
some advices for that. She asked what I usually eats, and:

When I told her about the carrot I have through the morning so I won't feel
"hungry" (as an anorexic I'm never quite sure if that's what I actually
feel) and to make sure I have enough A-vitamins (last year I was about to
get 'blind' in dark, so now I'm trying to make sure that won't happen again)
But she told me that the betacarotene in the carrot are not taken up as
A-vitamins in my body unless I eat some fat at the same time. 

QUESTION: How much fat is necessary to support the beta carotene in an
	  average carrot?

I simply forgot to ask her, as I became so upset as she kept on telling me I
had to eat more of everything, not only proteins. I could ask her next time
I see her (in 2-3 weeks) but I don't feel I can wait that long, so please
anybody..?


	Cath
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From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan Hagan)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Allergic to read wine?
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:18:44 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

C.A.Blunsdon@lut.ac.uk writes:

>Anyone know what might be the basis of an allergy to red wine, and
>what other foods might cause similar reactions?

What sort of symptoms to have?  I personnally find that red wine
aggravates my asthma.  I get slightly congested also, but the main
symptom is the tightening of my bronchial passages.  I also
found out that if I mix white and red wine, I vomit violently (isn't
that fun? - I'll never do that again).

I'm okay with some white wines.  But I'm also allergic to beer.  At
first I thought I was allergic to hops, but now I think I'm allergic
to sulfates, which is used in many alcoholic beverages as a preservative.

I have an allergic reaction to anything that contains sulfates, although
the reaction differs depending on what the product is.  I sneeze and
become congested from beer, I get a tight chest from wine.  I've never
tried a wine without sulfates, but I have tried beer without sulfates
and I seem to be fine.

I hope that helps,

Sue

-- 
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Publications Coordinator - User Services
Rutgers University Computing Services
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: bch@juliet.caltech.edu (MR. MAPLE)
Subject: does anyone know how to do this?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:19:00 GMT

There is probably a better conference to post this, but....

A few postings ago someone mentioned starting a new newsgroup for diabetes 
support, perhaps alt.diabetes.support.  Does anyone out there know how we
can go about doing this?

Thanks,
Bryan
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: dcborean@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (David Borean)
Subject: Re: weight gain
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 04:32:46 GMT

Hrmm.. Okay just a few words about some of these things..  
First off, A safe way to gain weight is not to eat a lot of excess calories.
Many people figure, well, if I eat like a pig, I'll gain weight and won't look
so thin.  True, but that causes problems later in life.. As you gain weight
and eat more, your metabolism will slow down a bit, then once aging sets in and
your metabolism really starts slowing down you've developed an eating disorder
because you had to basically force yourself to eat to keep up on your weight.

Now, female weight gain shouldn't be so much an issue really since their bodies
know what's needed anyhow, and unless they just don't eat or have a clinical problem such as Bulemia or Anerexia the proper functioning of systems should
go ahead normally.  I think the original message was someone who
was a bit on the thin side wanted a nice easy way to get some meat on his bones
and look a bit bigger.  And the only 'safe' way to do that would be to 
excercise.  Not sit around on the couch eating potato chips all day.
Now to the thing about high Carb diets.. Not really a good thing to do.
I was on a high Carb Diet last year, not because I intended it, but beuase
Pasta and rice are easy to cook, and I wanted to get my food quickly.
Anyhow, it turns out that about 4 months into this I start entering a depressivephase.  I have no idea why, but I'm sleeping about 13 hours a day and very
lethargic.  I did some research on neurochemistry and during that research
I find out what happend to me.  With the high concentrations of Carbs, 
Tryptophan could pass into the brain easier, because there was less Tyrosine
competition.  Tryptophan being the precurser to Serotonin, which is an
inhibitory neurotransmitter, linked to depressed states and inactivity.
Soooo.. What this nice little long anecdote says, is Eat a balanced diet
and excerise and go with what your Genes figure is best for you.


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From: andyw@meaddata.com (Andy Welter)
Subject: Salt question
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:14:22 GMT
Reply-To: andyw@meaddata.com

Is there any reason for a person to restrict their salt intake if they have a 
perfectly normal or low side of normal blood preasure?  

I'm not talking about popping salt pills like they were candy and having spoonfulls 
of salt in their soup. I'm just talking about putting as much salt on their frys and
such as they want, and eatting prepared foods that have more salt than would
be good for someone with high blood preasure.


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Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition,rec.food.veg
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: VEGETARIAN DIET
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:24:24 GMT

In article <_ysn8w#.strnlght@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>As for other vitamins, my take is that a well-rounded vegetarian eating
>program of the sort in "Fit for Life" or its sequels would obviate the
>need for any supplements.

The Diamond's books (i.e, Fit for Life and its sequels) are not considered
particularly well-rounded, and they have a cockamamie idea of "food combining"
rules which are just silly.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
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From: boucher@roche.csl.sri.com (Peter K. Boucher)
Subject: Purpose of sci.med.nutrition?
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	      individual at SRI International, and do not necessarily
	      reflect those of the company.
Reply-To: boucher@roche.csl.sri.com (Peter K. Boucher)
Organization: SRI International, Computer Science Lab, Menlo Park, CA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:08:03 GMT


In article <=#mnaym.goletz@netcom.com>,
goletz@netcom.com (Eddie Goletz) writes:
>
> In sci.med.nutrition  vlee@vis.toronto.edu (Victor Yuencheng Lee) write:
>
> >Hi,
>
> >Some friends of mine are pure vegetarian, they don't eat meat, don't
> >eat eggs, nor do they try dairy food. Only vegetables.
>
> >I doubt whether they will benefit from this diet or not.
>
> >What will happen if they keep doing this for their wjole life?
>
> >Can anybody give me some idea about this? because I am also interested
> >in vegetarian food.
>
> >Thanx, :)
>
> This question is more appropriate rec.food.veg, a  newsgroup about
> vegetarianism.

I disagree.  rec.food.veg is for vegetarians to discuss new recipes
and other issues that are of interest to them.  Arguments about
whether or not a vegetarian diet is healthy are not welcome there.

What is sci.med.nutrition for?  I would have thought that this
question (above) is precisely appropriate for this group.  Am I wrong?
I recently posted a question about some rather outrageous claims
that I heard about fluoride, and have not had a single response.
Was the question inappropriate for the group, does nobody care, or
has this already been discussed to death?

Peter K. Boucher    (boucher@csl.sri.com)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: paul@everest.tandem.com (Paul Duffy)
Subject: Re: side effects of niacin
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Cupertino CA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:05:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.145301.16259@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> 91287041@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:
>I was told that using Niacin would reduce my cholesterol level.  
>Whenever I use it, however, I break out in an incredible rash
>and feel flushed.  These sensations only last about an hour. 
>
>My question is this:  will these side-effects diminish with
>regular use?  I am using 500 mg tablets and have been told to
>use these twice a day.
>
>thanx for any info
>
>rm
>
> 
>-- 
>roger maynard                    
>91287041@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca 

Switch to Niacinamide and thaose symptoms will not occur.

- Paul -
From: ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Tumeric and Ginger
Date: 7 Sep 1992 19:17:32 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: almaak.usc.edu

rim@csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au (Bob McKay) writes:

>rwerman@vms.huji.ac.il (ROBERT WERMAN) writes:
>>This can be accomplished by using a teaspoon a day of the spice 
>>turmeric (a very potent lipoxygenase inhibitor, which prevents 
>>lipid peroxidation), as well as a half-teaspoon/day of ginger, a 
>>very potent thromboxane synthetase inhibitor.

>affected by cooking?

Many people like Turmeric raw.  Try it!

        -ans.
-- 
Ajay Shah, (213)749-8133, ajayshah@usc.edu
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Therapy and Psychiatry  (was: Anti-psychiatry)
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:18:25 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <88279@netnews.upenn.edu> zorrilla@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Eric Zorrilla) writes:

>shown that cognitive therapy is SUPERIOR to MAINTAINED drug regimens in
>preventing relapse/recurrence of depressed episodes.  Outcome studies w/panic

I believe either in the post you replied to or in another recent one
I mentioned cognitive therapy and behavior therapy (for phobias) as
being shown to help.  This is a very small segment of what passes
under the rubric of psychotherapy, though.  

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From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Politics and sci.med (was: unc health care study)
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:25:19 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <natndhj.strnlght@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>
>I apologize to Banks for McLinden's rude behavior to the extent that
>McLinden's quoting of a cancelled post of mine gave offense.
>
I'm far to thick skinned to be offended by such a mild flame.
All in good fun.




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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Depression: Nutritional treatments
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:51:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Sep9.205136.16236
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <PHR.92Sep9131450@soda.berkeley.edu> phr@soda.berkeley.edu (Paul Rubin) writes:
>There seems to be considerable agreement that amino acid supplements
>(specifically L-phenylalanine and to a lesser extent tyrosene)
>help certain kinds of depression.

Well, Durk 'n Sandy agree considerably!

>I haven't heard of tryptophan being used that way.

No?  At least there's some real research on that.

>The usual explanation is that L-phenylalanine
>is a norepinepherine precursor.  _Life Extension_, by D. Pearson and 
>S. Shaw, has more info and pointers into the "legitimate" literature.

Then it must be right.

>This info is from a friend of mine whose blood chemistry is screwed up

Who told her that?

>and uses L-ph. to help depression caused by n.e. depletion.

Listen, if someone ever showed that a case of endogenous depression (not
due to certain infrequently used drug therapies) was caused by n.e. depletion,
there'd be a Nobel Prize awarded.  It's safe to say that no one who is
diagnosed as depressed has even been characterized as suffering from
"n.e. depletion" except in someone's flight of fancy.

>She says it is way better than the Imipramine she used to use.

It undoubtedly has fewer side effects.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: sh240031@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Knee surgery
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:33:48 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

I'm scheduled to have arthroscopic surgery next week to explore and most likely
remove some or all of the medial and/or lateral meniscus in my left knee.
I am a very avid skier, 60+ days/yr, 30 years old, and never had any injuries
like this before.

How is this going to affect my skiing?  How long will rehab take?  What is the
worst case scenario?

Thanks in advance,		
				Carl
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: ohumukin@spectra.com (Kawika Ohumukini)
Subject: Re: 15 min phobia cures (was Re: Xanax)
Organization: Spectragraphics Corporation
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 15:30:57 GMT

In article <yxvng!p.strnlght@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>
>Joel Levin asks how the phobic cures were demonstrated. In the cases I'm
>familiar with, the phobia was a fear of snakes, the idea of snakes or 
>anything to do with snakes. The patient was holding, fondling and
>in general manipulating a snake after 15-30 minutes, while
>remarking "interesting creature." To date her therapist has not
>reported a remission. Dunno how you'd check claustrophobics--maybe
>take them on a long elevator ride or put em in a phone booth.

Hi,

Many times phobics simply have a physical reaction just thinking about
what they are fearful about.  Ask a phobic, carefully, what about their
fear is most painful and watch their face, arms, body and breathing.
You may see an instant change as they access this fear in their mind.
Remember our minds control our bodies, if they are accessing and really
"getting into the experience" their bodies will align itself with their
thoughts.  

Have a great day!

Kawika 
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: stevem@solbourne.com (Stephen Matson)
Subject: Re: What is Lupus?
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:33:33 GMT

dedmunds@selkirk.sfu.ca (Darran Edmundson) writes:
>
>A friend has recently been diagnosed as having Lupus.  Can someone tell me
>a little bit about this disease?  Thanks in advance.
>

 I can tell you just a little bit.

 Lupus is an auto-immune disease. An auto-immune disease is a condition
 where your immune system produces anti-bodies that, instead of attacking
 invading infections, viruses, etc, start attacking your own tissue. 
 Rheumatoid arthritis is the number one auto-immune disease in the U.S. 
 with Sjogrens syndrome second and Lupus third. Sjogrens is a secondary
 as well as a primary disease so of primary auto-immune diseases Lupus is
 number two.

 There are two types of lupus, and I forgot the exact names, where SLE is
 the most dangerous. The more benign Lupus seems to only affect the skin
 and is characterized by rashes after exposure to the sun. Folks with the
 more benign Lupus have anywhere from a 20-30% chance of developing SLE.
 SLE not only affects the skin but various internal organs as well, with
 the kidneys seeming to be the most prominent victim. SLE can be dangerous,
 and it can have fatal side affects, but it is not a fatal disease. Many 
 patients live long productive (but far from normal) lives. Out of the
 approx half million Lupus sufferers in the U.S. there are about 5,000
 deaths annually.

 There is no cure for either type of Lupus but medication can relieve some
 of the discomfort and slow the disease down a bit.

 Statistics are hard to compile but it seems approximately 3-5% of Lupus
 sufferers will go into permanent remission.

 Studies suggest that the cause of Lupus is a variety of genetic, viral and
 environmental factors. 

 As a percentage of population Lupus affects Blacks more then Whites.
 Lupus is most prominent between the ages of 18 and 35.
 87% of lupus patients are Women.

 It is interesting to note that in the dozen or so accounts of Lupus remission
 I have read, all of the patients had a major change in the lives prior to their
 remission. Such as moving to a new house, moving to a new state, having a dog
 die, etc. This seems to confirm in my mind the environmental link in lupus.
 I believe Lupus is caused by an allergic or hypersensitive reaction.
 

 Four weeks ago I was diagnosed with early SLE. 


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