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From: pnmideast@igc.apc.org
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:22 PST
Subject: Call State Dept, Protest Pal Expuls
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1296500459:000:1358
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!pnmideast    Dec 18 21:22:00 1992


From: <pnmideast>
Subject: Call State Dept, Protest Pal Expulsions

Subject: Deportation of 400 Palestinians
To: P-Net@alquds.org

Time: 0:15 am est

Just received a message from the New York branch of the PSC (Palestine Solidarity Commitee) that the Israeli government tried to secretly deport about 400 Palestinians to Lebanon, apparantly in retaliation of the death a the Israeli officer.  This act was however temproray delayed because of a court order that some lawyers managed to get.  However, the delay is for a very short period - till Thursday (Dec 17, 92) morning only.  thus AN URGENT RESPONSE IS REQUIRED.

The PSC are requesting people to contact the US State Dept. to register their protest and urge them to stop this blatant violation of human rights.

Please call (202) 647-4000.
	ask for "operations"
	Ask for Bruce Bertons.

YOU CAN CALL NOW - the state dept. are "monitoring the situation" 24 HOURS

(I hope I don't insult anybody by including this section.
If you don't know what response to give to the state dept. - you could use the following guidelines.   That is you could say
 who you are (if you want to) 
 where you calling from
 and that you heard about the deportation, and don't believe that it's right and are enquiring about how US state dept. are going to react.

The state dept. are noting all the calls that are made. 



Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: bfrg9732@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brian F. Redman)
Subject: A question for the president-elect
Summary: What is Clinton's position on the JFK files?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:21:59 GMT
Keywords: JFK files


Remember last year when the movie JFK was being viewed and 
commented on by everybody? Remember how the press actually asked 
Bush about opening the JFK files?

Now we have a president-elect who is reminiscent of former 
president John F. Kennedy in some ways. He has borrowed the 
Kennedy-esque phrase of a torch having been passed to a new 
generation. He has shown video of his meeting with former 
president Kennedy on the lawn of the White House.

What is president-elect Clinton's position on the opening of the 
government's files on the JFK assassination? Does he have a 
position on this? Is he in favor of it?

Inquiring minds want to know.


Brian Redman
(bfrg9732@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)
From: speednut@werple.apana.org.au (Mark Jose)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Going to Somalia
Date: 15 Dec 1992 19:51:11 +1100
Organization: werple public-access unix, Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: werple.apana.org.au

Original Message From: yarvin@cs.yale.edu (Norman Yarvin)
Original Subject: Re: Going to Somalia
 
>jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
>>In article <1g17rkINN3gq@CATHY.NA.CS.YALE.EDU>, yarvin@cs (Norman
Yarvin) writes:
>>>If I were the praying type, I would prefer to pray that anyone who
shoots at
>>>our troops will meet a quick death, so as to be a good example to all the
>>>other meatballs thinking of trying the same thing.
>>
>>It is comments like this that make it dangerous for U.S. citizens to
>>travel around the world.
>
>No, what makes it dangerous for U.S. citizens to travel around the
world is
>terrorism.  Done by terrorists.  The terrorists are usually armed and
>financed by governments hostile to us.  For instance the Communist Bloc used
>to be a heavy supporter of terrorists.
 
The key phrase here is "...hostile to us.". Why do you think many
countries are hostile to the U.S.A? Could it be that the U.S.A tends to
interfere in other people's affairs (for good and bad reasons)? While I by
no means support terrorism, a lot of the anger directed at the U.S.A is
surely due to its foreign policy and its "world police" thinking.
 
Newsgroups: alt.activism,sci.med,misc.kids,talk.politics.medicine
From: stanzi@media.mit.edu (Constance "Stanzi" Royden)
Subject: Re: AMA Calls for Ban on Infant Walkers
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:53:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.165834.22995@oracle.us.oracle.com> mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman) writes:
>
>Stanzi, how on Earth can you possibly know if practically skipping
>crawling adversely effected her reading ability?  After all, no matter
>how good she is, she could be better.
>
>Am I the only person who is disturbed at the way many people seriously
>seem to believe that anecdotal evidence like the above is serious
>evidence against a scientific study?
>

It's true I don't know if her reading ability is affected (she's only
2.5 and doesn't read yet).  I guess I should save that judgement for
later.  I'm not worried, since she didn't actually skip crawling
--she crawled for about a month before walking.  But I don't 
think I would be too worried even if she hadn't crawled.

I would like to point out that not all "scientific studies"
are equally accurate (speaking as a scientist, I am well acquainted
with many flawed studies that are widely cited).  Also, the way that
this was reported leaves out many details that were probably included
in the study.  I haven't seen the studies myself, but it's not clear
to me what is cause and what is effect.  Does not crawling *cause*
reading disabilities, or is it a symptom of a possible learning
disability?  How the study was done is also very important to 
interpretation--did they look at kids with reading problems and see
how many never crawled?  or did they look at kids who never crawled
and ask how many developed reading problems later?  Of those who
did, how many never crawled because of walker use, and how many
never crawled even though there was no walker?  Is there a difference
between these groups?  Are there other symptoms to look for that
might signal a learning disability?  etc. etc. etc.

Maybe I analyze too much, and I realize it's hard to include all
these in a short article, and I know if I *really* wanted to I could
go and look up the original studies.  But I would have liked to
see *some* qualifiers in the original statement.

--Stanzi

Xref: sparky alt.activism:19713 talk.environment:5141
From: New Liberation News Service via Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.environment
Subject: VIDEO: The Poisoning of a Mexican Community
Followup-To: alt.activism.d,talk.environment
Date: 19 Dec 1992 22:22:51 GMT
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu

[From Econet labor.hazards Conference]
[Also Posted to ACTIV-L and misc.activism.progressive (by Somebody Else)]

================================================================
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Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.current-events.somalia
From: liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu)
Subject: Re: Somalia an Arab country??? no! [was: It's Blood for Oill, again.]
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:34:41 GMT

In article <Bz4AL4.G81@apollo.hp.com> goykhman_a@apollo.hp.com (Alex Goykhman) writes:
>In article <1992Dec10.063330.4065@ousrvr.oulu.fi> dfo@tko.vtt.fi (Foxvog Douglas) writes:
>>In article <ByyuBE.2G2@apollo.hp.com> goykhman_a@apollo.hp.com (Alex Goykhman) writes:
>>>    Somalia is an Arab country. a full-fledged member of the Arab League, 
>>
>>According to the CIA World Fact Book, about 0.5% of the population of
>>Somalia is Arab (30,000 out of 6.x million).  Under Siad Barre the
>>official language was Somali, which the vast majority of the people 
>>speak.  Arabic, English and Italian are also spoken there.  If you have
>>seen any photos of the feeding centers or the population of Mogadishu
>>you would have been unable to see any Arab faces.  The people are
>>standard sub-Saharan African, i.e. black.
>
>    Don't let racial stereotypes interfere with the learning process:
>
>    Here's a definition taken from The American Heritage Dictionary:
>
>    Arab    1. A native or inhabitant of Arabia
>            2. Any of a Semitic people originally from Arabia but later
>               widely scattered throughout the Near East, North Africa,
>               and the Arabian Peninsula [including Somalia].
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
					   ?????????????????

Somalia is NOT on the Arabian Peninsula. It's across Red Sea or
Indian Ocean from the Arabian Peninsula.  
It is not part of Near East, or North Africa, it is located in 
East Africa south of the Saharan desert.  

>            3. Any of a nomadic people living in in Near Estearn and
>               North African desert regions.
>
>    According to the Boston Globe (Dec. 6, 1992), Somali is the national
>    language, Arabic is an official language, English and Italian are also 
>    spoken.
>
Since it's a Islamic country, it's quite normal for Somalians to pray
in Arabic.  But I think we all agreed that everyone over there speaks
Somali.  I mean hey, Chinese Muslims prays in Arabic too.  

>    Finally, Somalia is a member of the Arab League.

really?  i didn't know that.  It's definitely in some Muslim nation
organizations, I really don't think Ethopia & Somalia are in the 
Arab League, can someone confirm this?  
>
>
>
>-- 
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>"Follow the money."                             Other opinions are mine.
> Deep Throat                                    Disclaimer: 
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Xref: sparky alt.activism:19702 alt.conspiracy:13296
From: orwell@erich.triumf.ca (BALDEN, RON)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Rape After Rape After Rape
Date: 18 Dec 1992 15:35 PST
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: erich.triumf.ca
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Dec18.220421.29505@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>, 
arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes...
> 
>... I refer you to World War II and the infamous "Nazi death camps."  At 
> that time similar allegations were trumpeted.... [ellipsis in original]
> 
>and it was worse than people had ever imagined.
> 

It is not true that the information about the Nazi death camps 
was used in the Allied propaganda effort (propaganda
here meant as "information deliberately spread widely to help
or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc.",
not with the common connotation of "lies deliberately spread ...")
which the word "trumpeted" implies.  This information was 
widely disseminated only *after* WWII.

Frances Fitzgerald, in her study of U.S. school history
textbooks ("America Revised", Vintage, 1980) notes that the
presentation of the Soviet Union in U.S. textbooks during the
1950's was far more vituperative than the presentation of Nazi Germany in
U.S. textbooks published *during* WWII. 

Ron Balden
From: jcm@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us (John Martin)
Subject: EPA works to weaken the Clean Air Act
Followup-To: alt.activism.d
Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: Plex-1, Michigan's Public Access Usenet Gateway  (Ann Arbor).
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 00:06:01 GMT

EPA WORKS TO WEAKEN THE CLEAN AIR ACT

     The EPA is proposing to rescind the new 1990 Clean Air 
Act air emission standards for all NRC licensed non-reactor 
facilities on the grounds that the less stringent NRC 
regulations may provide an "ample margin of safety."  These 
facilities include uranium fuel cycle plants, uranium mills, 
hospitals, medical research facilities, radiopharmaceutical 
manufacturers, laboratories, universities, and industrial 
facilities (over 6,000 facilities).  Many who live near such 
non-reactor facilities are concerned that the NRC's 
traditional coddling of the nuclear industry and its poor 
past regard for public safety puts local communities at 
risk.

     Comments concerning the proposed rescinding of the rule 
must be received by the EPA on or before January 14, 1993.  
A public hearing concerning this proposal will be held in 
Washington, DC at 10 am on January 14, 1993 if a request is 
made. Contact the EPA, Fran Jonesi at 202-233-9229.

     The NESHAP rule (40 CFR Part 6, Subpart I) would limit 
radionuclide emissions to any member of the public in any 
given year to 10 millirems and to no more than 3 mrems from 
radioiodines.  The current NRC standard is 100 mrem for the 
general public.  The proposed rule would force facilities to 
use control systems, to maintain effluent monitoring data, 
and to report monthly if out of compliance.  The new NESHAP 
rule gives citizens the right to take legal action to compel 
compliance.

     These NESHAP rules were originally written to include 
both nuclear reactors and NRC-licensed non-reactor 
facilities, but in 1991, the EPA suspended the NESHAP rules 
for reactors.  Recently, however, the US Court of Appeals 
for the DC Circuit Court ruled the EPA's action to be 
illegal.  Temporarily, at least, these reactor facilities 
must meet the stricter air standards of the new Clean Air 
Act rather than the less stringent NRC standards.  The 
January hearing will decide if the EPA can do for local non-
reactor facilities what they did for reactor facilities in 
1991.

     For more information regarding this hearing, contact 
Dora St.Martin, Citizens for Safe Waste Disposal, Ann Arbor, 
Michigan.  313-996-0649.

======
I'd really appreciate it if someone out there could upload
this note to Econet.  Please send me e-mail first, though,
so that we can make sure that only a single copy winds up
there.

-- 
-- 
John Martin
jcm@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us

Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: crthaxto@unity.ncsu.edu (Cirrelia Thaxton)
Subject: Ron Brown as Secretary of Commerce
Keywords: Clinton Cabinet
Organization: North Carolina State University Project Unity
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 20:10:04 GMT

This will be a brief comment on one of the most recent cabinet appointments made by the Clinton/Gore Transition Team. I feel that Ron Brown absolutely deserves his newly selected post as the Secretary of Commerce in the coming Clinton Administration.  I have heard too much flack from the media saying that he does not have the right kind of experience to serve in this position.  But we all know that in this life it is not always what you know, but who you know.  And Ron Brown does know people...and policy. 



I need not even review his resume because his contributions to the Democratic Party not to mention this whole society in terms of business and management have been substantial and unignorable.  And the Clinton/Gore Transition Team obviously felt the same way when they included him on their 'short list', considered his merit, and settled on him for his achievement to represent their Cabinet as the future Secretary of Commerce. Congratulations, Mr. Brown!  


Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller)
Subject: Must reading for paranoids
Organization: Trinity College, Hartford, CT.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:23:38 GMT

I guess I just don't live right.  In any event, I'd
never heard of a Dr. Beter until the other day.  Now,
thanks to Jon Volkoff, I know all that I care to.

For those in a hurry, he's amazingly similar in
style and perspective to Lyndon Larouche, and with
pretty much the same villains: the Rockefellers,
the Bolshevik-Zionist axis, etc.  Maybe Beter _is_
Larouche.

Don't take my word for it: write to Volkoff, who
appears to see himself as the Keeper of the Flame.
His version of Jewish history alone is enough to
make him required reading for loonies.

Norman Miller

Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.current-events.somalia
From: bobh@troy.cc.bellcore.com (hettmansperger,robert)
Subject: Re: Somalia an Arab country??? no! [was: It's Blood for Oill, again.]
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 14:03:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.221658.28067@wam.umd.edu> rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.205804.17365@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> bobh@troy.cc.bellcore.com (hettmansperger,robert) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec15.010009.4765@wam.umd.edu> rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari) writes:
>>>	
>>>	If the Somalis are part of the Arab League, why the hell aren't
>>>	*they* feedin' em?  Christ, why should we pay to feed a bunch
>>                            ^^^^^^
>>>	of people who haven't figured out that ol' equation:
>>> 
>>>	Don't have more kids than you can feed. 
>>>
>>>	Survival of the fittest, I say.  Good riddance.
>>>
>>
>>Hmm.  Interesting use of "Christ" as an explitive given the message you are
>>trying to convey.
>>
>	Are you covertly accusing me of being a christian?
> 
No.  Just pointing out the irony of bringing up the name of someone 
historically known as being a compassionate person, while making particularly 
uncaring statements.  It has nothing to do with religion.

-Bob
Xref: sparky alt.activism:19710 talk.environment:5138
From: covici@ccs.covici.com (John Covici)
Reply-To: covici@ccs.covici.com
Newsgroups: alt.activism,bit.listserv.catholic
Subject: Re: What do we really want?
Date: 13 Dec 92 17:7:10 GMT
Organization: Covici Computer Systems

kschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Karl C Schudt @ The Ohio State University) once wrote....
>In article <1gei4kINNih6@manuel.anu.edu.au> Lubosh <ljh655@cscgpo.anu.edu.au> w
>rites:
>>In article <223-PCNews-124beta@ccs.covici.com> John Covici,
>>covici@ccs.covici.com writes:
>>>                - If You Want to Feed Somalia, -
>>>                - You Must Demand Development! -
... stuff deleted ...
>
> Sorry, Lubosh, but no "rich" country needs another country to stay poor. A 
>"rich" country, such as the US, needs markets for its products! Somalia buys 
>*NOTHING* (or next to nothing) from the US, and sells no goods to us. The best 
>thing for everyone concerned is if the third world gets rich, and we stay rich!
>     Look around the world for the countries that can't feed their people and 
>despoil their environments. You will not find a single free-market economy in 
>the whole lot. (For those of you saying the US pollutes, true, but we don't 
>do anything near what Brazil and Romania and the former USSR did.)


I would put a warning here that its the unbridled "free market" (or 
flee-market) which has brought us to the  situation we are in today.  
Government does have a rather important role to play -- especially 
the governments of advanced countries.

Noninflationary credit must be generated to pay for all this 
development.  The debt of Africa and the rest of the under-developed 
sector must be immediately cancelled or suspended and the advanced 
sector must generate credits in the appropriate amounts.  

In order to do this, in the United States, the Federal Reserve Bank 
must be NATIONALIZED into a national bank of the United States -- as 
we had from 1790 through about 1830.

More information is available on these areas either directly from me 
or in a series of files in red.css.itd.umich.edu in the directory 
/poly/larouche (I think that's the right name).  The files are called 
larouche.program.nn where nn goes from 01 through 22.

This should give you a better idea of how in detail the development 
should take place.


----
         John Covici
          covici@ccs.covici.com
From: speednut@werple.apana.org.au (Mark Jose)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: u.s. in somalia
Date: 15 Dec 1992 19:52:11 +1100
Organization: werple public-access unix, Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: werple.apana.org.au

Original Message From: zedaker@next12pg2.wam.umd.edu (PMW "MAP")
Original Subject: u.s. in somalia
 
>I DON'T LIKE IT!  I DON'T LIKE IT AT ALL!!!!
>
> AMERICAN INVASION, HERE WE GO AGAIN.....
>
>WHY CAN'T WE CONCERN OURSELVES WITH OUT OWN COUNTRY AND ITS PROBLEMS
>BEFORE WE GO OFF AND ATTEMPT TO SOLVE OTHER COUNTRIES' PROBLEMS?
 
I am sure your country's' leaders do try to look after the poor but the
suffering of your poor should in no way diminish the help you give to
others.
 
I would imagine that, like the rest of the world, the majority of the aid
being given to Somalia is in the form of donations from private individuals
and groups. Sure there is governmental aid, but the majority (at least here
and in other countries) is private. So what these private people choose to
do with their money is not up to you.
 
In regard to U.S.A military assistance, I agree that the U.S.A. seems to be
taking total control of Somalia. The U.S.A. is seen once again to be running
the U.N. Whenever IT FEELS the need, it goes to the U.N. and gets agreement
and then goes in "boots and all". Yes, you don't see 30,000 troops heading
off to Bosnia. Why? Perhaps it isn't as important or perhaps the Somalians
would be an easier opponent to stop. Who knows.
 
I don't denounce the need for troops but surely out of all the member
countries of the U.N., enough troops could be obtained to do the job. Then
the U.S.A would not be seen as the "instigators" (perhaps not the best word
in this instance), but rather as just part of the overall contingent.
 
>WHY IS IT ALWAYS UP TO US?  I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER COUNTRIES COMING TO AID
>OUR STARVING PEOPLE, DO YOU?
 
Surely your country is RICH ENOUGH to feed its own people. This is not the
case in Somalia.
 
The U.S.A is big enough and old enough to look after itself. But in the event
that some terrible tragedy should befall the U.S.A then I would
guarantee you
that aid would be given.
 
If there are millions of people starving in the U.S.A then why haven't we
heard of it???
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.current-events.somalia