HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: msmcknig@unccsun.uncc.edu (Michael S McKnight)
Subject: Re: A4000/EC030 confirmed
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:34:40 GMT

In article <torrie.728090456@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie) writes:
>tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:
>
>>In article <C1FGos.4uo@unccsun.uncc.edu> msmcknig@unccsun.uncc.edu
>>(Michael S McKnight) writes:
>
>>With an entry-level system like the A1200, every item is scrutinized in terms
>>of consumer pricing and manufacturing costs, so using a EC020 chip is a
>>reasonable compromise. As for the A4000, the only currently available model
>>makes use of a full 68040, despite any misconceptions to the contrary.
>>The decision to market an EC030 version is likely a measure to satisfy those
>>that are midway between the A1200 and A4000 in their product demands. An
>>additional 68030 version is slated to follow.
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From: das9674@ucs.usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Re: An Amigan does it *again* Re: clone prices & doom & gloom
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:14:30 GMT


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WARNING: FLAME OF MAGNIFICENT PROPORTIONS FOLLOWS:
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In article <torrie.728201384@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie) writes:
>Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman) writes:
>
>>I'd be getting out the flamethrower and TORCHING the thing..... [well, not
>>really, I'm not a book burner, even of stuff -I- consider -trash-  When
>>Playboy has images of males that are just as sexploitive of males as its
>>airbrushed zipless f*ck females, 
>
>  It's called Playgirl.

What is the hell is wrong this woman?!  Paula ought to find something better
to do than 'pull a feminazi' and blast males liking females.

What's wrong with Paula?  Does *she* look at 'Playgirl'?  No?
Perhaps *some* men, *somehwere* in the VASTNESS of the world, _do not_
look at Playboys mags, *either*, so get off your self-righteous 
high horse and stop being so damned anal rententive!  Gimme a break,
you're what Amigans would call 'The Marc Barrett of Heterosexuality'.  

>Evan Torrie.  Stanford University, Class of 199?       torrie@cs.stanford.edu 
>Embrace rationalism, reject superstition.           Break away from the past.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Paula, take note.
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From: matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: exodus
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:02:22 GMT
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robert buonincontro (robert.buonincontro@canrem.com) wrote:

: How do you correct this problem? Buy Software. Purchasing software
: improves your computer investment. It allows software companies to
: spend more on research, which helps sell more computers!

Yes, yes and yes. If you want the best word pro, buy it, and it will
become even better. We should be glad that productivity software for
the Amiga is relatively cheap.

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From: torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie)
Subject: Re: Move
Originator: torrie@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: 22 Jan 93 04:09:16 GMT

lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun) writes:

>das9674@ucs.usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>>So, for example, you can do 'rename Civilization ..' to move it back
>>one subdirectory level?

>It is in these situations that the beauty of the Amiga way of doing
>things (tm) becomes clear. Just use the mouse to drag the directory
>you want to the place you want. So simple.

  Lionel, you're missing the point.

  You have to use a CLI to show what a real man you are.

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 and that is having no marketing people on a project."  - Larry Tesler.
From: marks@castle.ed.ac.uk (Mark Steyn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: PCheads go *thud* Re: Amigan-whalloping Re: An Amigan does it *again*
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:39:28 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:

>Greg (it's time for a new .sig, folks, and i'm looking...)

Be afraid, be _very_ afraid....

:-)

	Mark
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From: torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie)
Subject: Re: CBM Announces Price Cuts on A4000/A1200dir
Originator: torrie@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:39:44 GMT

gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:

>In article <1993Jan26.121123.18965@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, Matt Simmons (zarthac@bradley.edu) wrote:
>: I was being serious... I thought I had noticed a trend of cooler summers over
>: the past 2-3 years... But then that could just be from Mt. Pinatubo...

>It's been a long time since I've seen a six foot snowdrift, something
>that was once a common sight.

  There have been two consecutive extremely cold winters in New Zealand, 
last year killing off a million or so new-born lambs.  Snow was so heavy
during the past two years that the main ski area in the North Island
has been open for skiing on New Year's Day (that's the middle of summer).
  This is particularly galling to me, because for the last five or six years
I was in NZ, there was very little snow and most of the skifields were only
operating at half to 3/4 capacity during the winter season.

(Note to Greg: In my mind, evidence and possibility are linked.  I wouldn't
for example, say, "There's no evidence for leprechauns, but just because
there's no evidence doesn't mean it isn't possible".)

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 and that is having no marketing people on a project."  - Larry Tesler.
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From: thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang)
Subject: Re: An Amigan does it *again* Re: clone prices & doom & gloom
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:17:30 GMT

In article <hardin.727992575@ee.ualberta.ca> hardin@ee.ualberta.ca (Hardin Brett Arvid) writes:
>To be honest, Civilization is amazingly slow on the 3000 by comparison with a 486 machine (27 second setup time vs something measured in minuts). this comes down to sloppy programming, and probably a lousy compiler. I would assume that theydidn't rewrite much from the IBM version, just enough to get it to work         (Quit to DOS ???? couldn't they at least change that????)

     It is the same as the Wing Commander Game, "Quit to DOS"!!!!  And it seemed
to be a little fast on the A4000 and rediculously slow on the A2000.  I hate 
to imagine someone playing it on the A500.
     I just got the LOTUS III game and it worked fine on A4000, minus the rain
and dessert part.  Does anyone have problems with those two parts?  For me, the
computer crashes when I try to run those.  (BTW, the game is GREAT -  Desent
resolutions and SUPER FAST SPEED!!!!).  Still have to check it on the A2000
though.

                                                                -TKH '93

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From: lindblad@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Jarkko Lindblad)
Subject: Re: amiga a1200.....
Organization: University of Helsinki
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:43:00 GMT

"robert buonincontro" (robert.buonincontro@canrem.com) wrote:
> 
> First, Commodore has just released the A1200! Have you ever seen them dump 
> a computer so fast! It's doesn't go with their pattern. They take years to 

I have: A500+ ! :-)

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From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
Subject: Re: Move
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 19:12:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.203655.2149@msus1.msus.edu>, martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (Psigon Matrix....do you DOUBT us??) writes:
 > In article <1993Jan21.203420.28063@ugle.unit.no>, eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen) writes:

 > >BUT why is there no '.'?  I find myself cding to the destination directory, then
 > >including the full path in the copy command anyway, since there's no '.'.  (Well,
 > >I used to, now I use SKsh :)
 > >
 > 
 > the syntax to copy everything from some place to the curr dir is:
 > 
 > copy ram:#?.blah ""       (the "" is the same as '.')

Why did everybody except me know this?  Should I start *reading* my *manuals*?
Surely not!

Hmm...  Whoever started this thread is to be congratulated...  Oh wait, it was 
das9674, wasn't it?  Amazing...  At LEAST half the posts to c.s.a.a are 'Re: Move'
today.  Isn't it amazing what people will do to defend their slashes?  ;)

 >           Jim Martin   MATRIX -- If it's made, we sell it. Almost.
 >   -----(612) 656-9693--                         MARTIN@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU

-Eyvind

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From: aru@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Sri Ramkrishna)
Subject: Re: Companies affected by piracy don't lose much as they ma
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:42:50 GMT


Thanks for all the postings!  If you have more things to say, by all means
go to it!  Its rather a touchy subject and me and my brother have been
arguing it for hours.  

	sri


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From: sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advocate please...
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:49:38 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

In <3hq3rck@rpi.edu> danaf@bray1b.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.) writes:

>In article <1993Jan27.042105.714747@sue.cc.uregina.ca>, bayko@mercury.cs.uregina.ca (John  Bayko) writes:

>	- Try to do toooo much at once! This is also true on UNIX systems,

 No it is not.  The Unix system will bog down incredibly, but it will not
crash.  At least I've never had it happen on my machine.  DS 5000/200 with
24 Megs of RAM, 200 Megs of swap.  I can get this thing thrashing to swap
bad enough that the system is using 50% of the CPU, and it won't crash.
It doesn't move very fast, tho, and I generally avoid it.  But I run some
pretty big stuff, and tend to overload it a lot.  This happens when your
application uses 25 Megs of RAM, and you've only got 12 free, and you try to
run multiple sessions of this at the same time.

 I've only crashed this machine twice in 9 months, and both of those were
caused by problems with the network, not by overloading the CPU/harddisk.

 In my experience, the only machine I've ever seen do this is the Amiga.
Although OS/2 is somewhat sensitive to overloading itself, it's design is
much better equipped to deal with this than that of AmigaDOS.  Not to
diminish AmigaDOS, it's just kind of stuck on old technology, and has to
continue to work with 68000's.

>          so don't knock the Amiga for it, but if you try to START too many
>          processes at once (just as an example...) you run the risk of nasty
>          things like memory overlap or over-allocation...
>              This once really doesn't happen very often - RARELY do you
>              want to start Imagemaster, PPage, ProDraw, and JRComm at the
>              same time!!! Starting one or two at a time should be enough for
>	      most people.

 But, yes, you're correct in that it's not a great fault.  Usually one
doesn't do something like this.  But it still is kind of annoying to have to
sit there and remember, "Ok, wait... If I try to do this too fast the
machine will go south."

>3> Stutter during disk access? How so? My A2000's 5 years old, I don't ever
>   remember it stuttering during disk access. If you mean soundwise - no.

 I don't recall this either.  Disk access has always been fairly responsive.

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From: jprad@faatcrl.faa.gov (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Move
Date: 21 Jan 1993 15:28:30 -0500
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Pomona, NJ
Distribution: world
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jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:

>Really?  So how come I can use "cd .." to up a directory level on both DOS
>and UNIX, but not on an Amiga?  Who's doing things backwards here?

  In DOS and UNIX the .. is a directory reference for the parent directory
that's listed in the directory itself implicitly.

  On the Amiga it's assumed that every subdirectory has a parent directory,
so a simple CD / or / by itself will pop you up one level.

  -jack-
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From: MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu (Mark 'Mark' Sachs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: The WordsWorths scoop?
Date: 28 Jan 93 05:25:14 GMT
Organization: The Leader Desslok School of Diplomacy

In article <1993Jan27.172649.29515@usl.edu>, das9674@ucs.usl.edu (Stephenson
Daniel A) says:

>Heya.

>Have any of you Amigans out there used that WordWorth word processor
>yet, and if so, would have also used Ami Pro or Word for Windows also,
>and perhaps could make a TOTALLY OBJECTIVE comparison ( a cinch to
>do in c.s.a.a., right?)

For anyone who wants it, there's a 'crippleware' demo of WordWorth 2
on the coverdisk of Amiga Format Issue 41. From a cursory fiddle-with
it looks quite powerful and reasonably speedy -- on an A3000, bien sur.
Why, this could be the best word processor available for the Amiga! Of
course, that's may not be saying much. :-/

I'll try to use it as exhaustively as possible and maybe post more impressions,
if nobody else does in the meantime.

     "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets."
[Your blood pressure just went up.]        Mark Sachs IS: mbs110@psuvm.psu.edu
   DISCLAIMER: Penn State University cares about my money, not my opinions.
From: jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CBM mention on 12/11/92 Computer Chronicles
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:55:49 GMT
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
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Joe O'Hara - Product Assurance (joe@cbmvax.commodore.com) wrote:
:
: Let's see. Robert talks about "average" which implies he's trying to bring the
: discussion to address the bulk of user systems. Jerry responds with an S3
: graphics adapter. Duh.
:

Look, Joe, I just provided a bit of information.  I wasn't flaming anyone;
there's no reason to flame me.

:
: Even with the S3 cards, the high performance is usually limited to Windows
: apps, not DOS, OS/2 or Unix, because the cards are designed to trap out
: specific Windows API calls.
:

Mostly false.  Although this is true for DOS, any RTG system (Windows, OS/2,
Unix/X11) can benefit greatly from an S3 accelerator (with the proper driver,
of course).  It's set of hardware operations is generic enough.  Most of the
performance measurements I've seen for the S3 were in "xstones", a Unix/X11
benchmark.  For example, an unaccelerated Sparcstation is about 25K, an HP
Snake is about 75K, and a 486 w/S3-801 is about 66K.

:
: What about it? DIG has many benefits, but the additional overhead may be
: viewed as a negative to some, depending on their needs and applications.
:

There's overhead, of course, but it's counterbalanced by the ability to
run on more types of hardware, including really fast graphics coprocessors.

:
:   Joe O'Hara                ||      Disclaimer: I didn't say that!
:
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From: zarthac@bradley.edu (Matt Simmons)
Subject: Re: Slashes, dots, and quotes (was Re: Move)
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:50:02 GMT
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Heikki T. Suopanki (suopanki@stekt5.oulu.fi) wrote:
: >>>>> On Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:27:19 GMT, davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn) said:

: David> Do you mean to say that OS/2 still carries over this cretinous, two-step,
: David> change drive, then cd, behaviour?  Why?  Even if they can't learn from AmigaOS
: David> (which Jerry insists they choose to ignore completely, since there's
: David> apparently nothing worth noting in it), haven't they at least looked at Unix?

: Eh? Unix do not have separate "drives", everything is mounted under one root.

Right, and thus, you don't have to change from drive to drive...

Agreed, not the best example, but...
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From: rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: IBM NO LONGER #1?
Date: 23 Jan 1993 10:57:42 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
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In article <1993Jan22.213633.16890@sbcs.sunysb.edu> dtiberio@engws10.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) writes:
>
>	Apparantly Microsoft has bypassed IBM and has become the largest 
>retailer of computer products (RE: CNN last night).

I also hear that Microsoft is under investigation for monopolization
practices.  Imagine Microsoft going the way of AT+T, still big, not as
big as before, and you have 2 other major compeditors.  Who knows what
competition might bring (like actually having companies of this caliber
making stuff for the Amiga?).
 
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From: dnavas@oracle.uucp (David Navas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CBM Announces Price Cuts on A4000/A1200dir
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:58:55 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1993Jan23.002818.17783@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> manacsa@l13ff.jsc.nasa.gov (Gerry Manacsa) writes:
>New developments in battery technology could resolve these problems.  For
>example, nickel hydride batteries (already commercially available even in
>consumer-grade AA batteries) contain far less heavy metals and other
>toxics than conventional batteries.  They also have much greater storage ...

Umm, not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but this appears to be a
direct quote out of Popular Science -- I think.  Anyway, I remember
reading something -very- much like this in the grocery store last night.
So, if anyone wants more info, you know where to get it....

I don't see how this is related to advocacy, but I could start a grammar
war if you like?!  [-fewer- heavy metals]

Just my luck I won't be hear this week to enjoy seeing how it all turns out.

David C. Navas						dnavas@oracle.com
Working for, but not speaking on behalf of, Oracle Corp.
From: matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: AMaxII+
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:02:45 GMT
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Phil Martin u (mart4678@mach1.wlu.ca) wrote:

: I have heard that the AMaxII plus is actually faster than a real Mac,
: is this true?

It all depends on the Amiga you use, and the Mac you compare with. Though,
my uncle's AMaxII+ runs faster on his A2000/030 than his Mac at work also
using an 030.

Fitting an AMaxII+ in an A4000 gives you a very, very fast Mac. I've heard
something like the speed of a Quadra 700, but that doesn't say much to me.

: Phil Martin.

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