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From: kja28795@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kurt J. Angelese)
Subject: DEPECHE MODE
Summary: Can anyone tell me when a new album is coming out?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 03:44:19 GMT
Keywords: New Album?




Xref: sparky alt.cobol:402 comp.object:3536
From: bsmith@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Barry Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.cobol,comp.object
Subject: OO COBOL info needed
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:07:37 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University

I am preparing a presentation on OO COBOL and would like any information
that you netters have.  Thank you in advance.
Newsgroups: alt.cobol
From: urjm5@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Richard Macturk)
Subject: Info on a Cobol Linker
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Distribution: alt.cobol
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 04:04:47 GMT

I recently downloaded the COBOL Compiler COBOL.EXE from the
file COBOL650.ZIP. It
compiles fine but the Linker, "RUN650.EXE" locks up my system.
Is there a Linker at any FTP sites available? If
so could you E-Mail me the name of the Linker, and possibly
the FTP Site Address. 
				Thank You,
				Rick MacTurk

-- 
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|| Rick MacTurk               E-Mail : urjm5@sunyit.edu ||
|| State University of New York Institute of Technology ||
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Newsgroups: alt.cobol
From: Don Nelson <nelson_don@comm.tandem.com>
Subject: Re: OO COBOL info needed
Organization: Tandem Computers
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.0
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:02:14 GMT

In article <BuKKGq.M50@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> bsmith@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
(Barry Smith) wrote:
>I am preparing a presentation on OO COBOL and would like any information
>that you netters have.  Thank you in advance.

Actually, object-oriented COBOL is under development right now (in the 
CODASYL COBOL Committee Object-Oriented COBOL Task Group).  Almost all of 
the functionality is already figured out and the syntax is now being 
developed.  It will allow making existing code into an object and will 
not require COBOL programmers to become computer scientists to use it.  
It will fit right into COBOL as it is now with no incompatibilities other 
than a few reserved words.  It will introduce pointers, recursion, and 
other stuff like that so dear to C programmers hearts.  It will not be 
part of the next Standard (COBOL 1995?), but will probably appear as an 
addendum to that Standard.  I also expect that there will be some 
implementations of it around within the next couple of years.  If you 
want any additional information (tons of it exist) you should contact 
Megan Adams - megana@cup.hp.com, phone (408) 447-7308.

Don Nelson
COBOL Development, Tandem Computers, Inc
ex-Chariman, CODASYL COBOL Committee
nelson_don@comm.tandem.com
From: tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Grace Sylvan)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Fabriholics Anonymous
Date: 7 Sep 92 06:57:27 GMT
Organization: Sylvan Associates

well, I have a room filled with fabric. Only within the past year have
I found the 100% cotton knits that I'd been longing for - so before
that I collected some interesting 50/50 knits. (I also ran a business
for a while doing medieval/renaissance clothing, but I did *sell* off
almost all the fabric from that at cost when I quit).

When the 100% cotton stripe ribknit came in at Sew Natural, I grabbed
it, knowing that I might never see anything like it again (I'd been
looking for some for 2.5 years!). I have, umm, some 50+ yards of it in
all the different stripes available. And we made a trip to Sweet
Potatoes and they happened to be having a sale, so I got another 30
yds of 100% cotton fabric in really neat prints (for $2/yd!!.)
Needless to say, there wasn't any room on the shelves for these great
100% cottons. So out went 95% of the cotton/poly collection. When I
unloaded most of it on my mil, I assured her that I did NOT need it,
and that I had piles of really nice 100% cottons to work with.

We then talked about kid's clothing (she had gotten a job sewing
dresses for a kid's store) and the pricing. I showed her the Hanna
Andersson catalog, and she was shocked at the prices. I told her that
when I bought something new for the kids, that's where I bought.
Otherwise, I bought used clothing or made it myself. She offered to
make me things ("I'll be quick!") if I gave her fabric and patterns. I
guess the prices really offended her. Now all I need to do is get my
stuff straightened out enough to sort out a few projects for her, and
we'll see how it goes.

Whew







The nice thing about having a small bedroom to myself is that I can
leave my machines out set up on a table, and I can leave it in a mess
and shut the door. Although I work better when it's mostly cleaned up.
The bad thing is that I could tell you what I intend(ed) to make out
of almost every piece of fabric (at least 1 item from the fabric, even
if there would be lots left over). Sometimes I get lost in there just
looking at all the fabric and thinking of the nice clothing it would
make.

Having kids is definitely an excuse to buy more fabric - and it's also
detrimental to getting sewing done!
-- 

Tigger (Grace Sylvan)                Mom of Katherine Yelena, 8/8/89 &
tigger@satyr.sylvan.com              Robin Gregory born 2/28/92

 "It seems to me that our large goal is to find the ways to help our
 children become humane and strong."
 
              - Dr Haim Ginott quoted by Adele Faber & Elaine Mazlish
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: rabbit@leland.Stanford.EDU (Aleta Hanna)
Subject: Anyone made a Folkways Tango Dress?    
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:04:41 GMT

*************************
I have some lovely rayon challis to make up the Folkway's Tango Dress.
I'm wondering if these patterns work well in general, in particular, how
does the Tango Dress come out.  It seems to me that most of the photos
in their book of real people wearing their garments fall way short of
how the picture promises.  

Hints and opinions sought.

Aleta
Aleta Hanna
Maps and Records
Stanford University
rabbit@lindy.stanford.edu
************************* 
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: anne@dolores.Stanford.EDU (Anne Paulson)
Subject: Re: tensions on serger
Organization: Stanford University
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:09:04

In article <22118@optima.cs.arizona.edu> slm@cs.arizona.edu (Sandy Miller) writes:

   I have a BabyLock serger that I bought four or five years ago.  It is a
   four/three/two thread model.  So far, I have only used it for four thread
   seaming, but now I am interested in trying out some of the fancier stuff.

   My problem it that one of the tensions must be set to the tightest setting
   (the lower looper) to sew correctly.  This didn't seem quite right to me
   when I first got the machine, but since it was doing what I needed it to
   do, I didn't worry about it.  According to the manual, the correct setting
   for four-thread searging should be somewhere in the middle.


Carefully check the threading.  If your machine were not threaded
correctly, it could cause this problem.  In particular, the thread
must be securely in the tensioner. 

-- Anne
From: Marina.Salume@Corp.Sun.COM (Marina Salume)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: quilting by computer
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:36:12 GMT

>We've heard that there are PC tools for designing quilts by computer.
>Don't know much about it yet, but my wife and I are about to buy a  
>computer (w/ color screen) and we'd be interested in knowing what is out  
>there.

The latest flyer from the Quilting Bee (which just moved from Los Altos
to Mountain View, 357 Castro to be exact), says they are now carrying
the latest quilt design program, the Electric Quilt. I'm sure they'll
be happy to demonstrate it for you, take a drive over there and check
it out. I don't have their new phone number with me but they should
be in the phone book. This is the quilting software that was shown
on the recent quilting tv series, too. 

let us know what you think! 

--marina
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Chains for making handbag handles
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:22:26 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

delena@roth-music.com (Delena E. Roth) writes:
> Has anyone made a purse from the new patterns available from Vogue/
> Butterick?  I want to make one with a chain strap (which is to have
> a ribbon woven through it), but I can't find a selection of chains!
>  I want to get a nice-looking brass chain, about 3/8-in. wide and
> 36-in. long.

Try a store that sells stained glass supplies to the public (it's
probably in the phone book under "glass, painted and stained")  There
are several nice brass and chrome chain patterns available-- they're
used to hang window panels.
From: lcornell@milton.u.washington.edu (Linda Cornell)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Fabriholics Anonymous
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:40:44 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I used parts of my satin and lace to make an heirloom christening gown. 
It came out beautifully, but I think it would have been easier to make
another wedding gown...all those slippery little satin pieces.....ughhhh....

Linda :)

>Jill Scott-Piner asked what to do with 11.5 yards of ivory satin.
>
>I admit that I have all the left over ivory satin from my wedding
>gown still on the roll in a closet - I haven't worked out what to do
>with large triangular pieces  - but my thoughts are to practice
>using it and make clothes for dress-up. My neices love to play
>wedding with their friends. I know she had been at it a while before
>I asked her to be in my wedding and the game continues 3.5 years later.
>She is around 10 years old. now. The best thing about sewing for
>kids is that they don't care if the seams are straight.
>
>Carol
Newsgroups: alt.sewing,rec.crafts.textiles
From: gmclucki@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Gemma McLuckie)
Subject: Re: What about pattern addicts? (and I'm back - for the moment)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:42:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.000237.8003@StarConn.com> sallyh@StarConn.com (Sally Holm
es) writes:
>many times have you wanted to make something, only to discover that the
>pattern manufacturers don't consider that style to be "in" this year?
>Fitted blouses were like that a few years ago.
>
Last summer I picked up some 1960-70s patterns for 10 cents at a garage sale --
Vogue.  The styles were just coming back in, and I used them to make my 
daughter some shorts and a sundress.  Lots cheaper than buying the 1990s $7.95 
versions of the same patterns.

>On the subject of fabric addiction... I've just finished a pair of
>trousers from fabric that I bought at least five years ago, in London.
>I love a happy ending :-).

Thanks, Sally, for starting my day with a laugh!

Gemma
From: morrison@cup.hp.com (Bobbie_Morrison)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Receiving handmade sweaters I don't like...
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:37:13 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Cupertino, CA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


All this talk about giving handmade gifts to people that don't appreciate 
them prompted me to give "the other side of the story".  

I knit, sew, and do occassional cross-stitching.  My grandmother also knits 
alot, and every Christmas she gives all of her grandchildren a knit sweater 
or vest.  The problem is she always uses ACRYLIC yarn 
(Red Heart or something.)  Now, while I completely appreciate the time and 
effort she went to, I just cannot wear an acrylic sweater.  Its just not me, 
I wouldn't be comfortable.  (The styles usually aren't me either.  They look
great on her, she is small and petite, but I can't stand them.)

I'm working on some way to tell her not to make any more -- or better yet 
to hint that I would like to provide the yarn and pattern (its not really 
a surprise that she is going to make one every year.)  But my Grandmother 
is kind of hard to tell that sort of thing.  I'm afraid she will take offense.
(My plan is to send her some of the yarn that I have tucked in my closet
and complain that I don't have time to knit it (which is true).)

So yes, I can see how it would be disappointing when we take such care on
handmade items to have them not appreciated, but on the other hand maybe 
its just not the recipients style.  In some ways, placing that kind of
burden on the recipient is just as bad as the recipient not appreciating
a handmade gift.  

I would *love* it if she would ask me what I like.


--Bobbie Morrison

PS- Since I just resumed knitting after a long haitus I was thinking about
making my nieces and nephew some Disney sweaters.  Thanks for reminding me
that I better ask my sisters if they would like them!!!  
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: rabbit@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Aleta Hanna)
Subject: Re: help!
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:52:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.232723.17493@adobe.com> mackay@adobe.com (Debbie MacKay) writes:
>In article <4947@rosie.NeXT.COM> szakhour@next.com (Sharon Zakhour) writes:
>Many craft books recommend using this stuff in conjuction with fabric
>paints to do simple applique on clothes. I've used this technique 
>successfully for shirts that have lasted through several wearings and
>washings over about 2 years. I would agree that stitching the fabric 
>down is bound to be better then not. But I think given the appropriate
>weight of the fusible, and enough paint to really seal the edge of
>the applique, there shouldn't be much of a problem. 
>
>The keys to making sure the paint stays on the fabric over time, 
>include: using a liquid fabric softener in the wash, no dryer, no
>iron, and no folding of the garment during storage (hang it up).
>
>-- 
>Deborah MacKay                                      mackay@adobe.com
>Adobe Systems Incorporated                 {sun|decwrl}!adobe!mackay

My son has a knit T-shirt that must be made with this stuff.  It has
woven fabric apliques that have a kind of beaded edge, and some
background painting.  It has been washed (warm/cold) and dried (low),
along with all the other laundry many, many times since last Christmas,
when he received it.  Just this week, I gave it a quick soaking in
dishwasher detergent to get out a major blood stain.  The shirt is in
perfect condition, still.

Aleta
*************************
Aleta Hanna
Maps and Records
Stanford University
rabbit@lindy.stanford.edu
*************************
From: sallyh@StarConn.com (Sally Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Sewing Facile
Date: 8 Sep 92 03:05:19 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Starnet-Public Access UNIX--Los Altos, CA  415-949-3133

Well, I've done it - I've added two and a half yards of Facile to my
fabric collection! Well, I've been thinking of trying it for a while and
it was on sale at 30% off, you know how these things are...

Even at 30% off, though, it's still an expensive fabric and I know it's
a little different to the cottons and silks I'm best with. So... does
anyone know of anywhere in the Bay area that gives a class on garment
construction using Facile or Ultrasuede? I live in Los Altos, and am
willing to travel up to an hour to get someone to hold my hand while I
cut the stuff out!

I've read the Palmer & Pletsch book. Besides what's in there, and the
obvious precaution of making a muslin (out of interfacing) before I cut,
does anyone have any hints?

Regards,
Sally Holmes
From: szakhour@next.com (Sharon Zakhour)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Stabilizer behind buttonholes
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:50:39 GMT
Reply-To: szakhour@next.com (Sharon Zakhour)

I suspect she used Stitch N Tear.  It's available by the yard in the  
Interfacing section of your fabric store.  I use it to stabilize buttonholes  
all of the time
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: carolyn@bucket.rain.com (Carolyn Peterson)
Subject: 2 Portland area events
Organization: Rick's Home-Grown Un*x
Distribution: pdx
Date:  4 Sep 92 23:49:17 GMT



Two items that may be of interest to other sewing people in the
Portland area: 
 
----------------------------- 
 
The Sewing Fair 
 
September 25 & 26 (Friday and Saturday) 
9:30 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. 
at the Portland Memorial Coliseum--Assembly and Exhibit Halls 
Admission $7  
 
Many exhibitors and lots of seminars included with the admission
price.  Seminars cover fitting, time use, organization, decorating,
sewing professionally, fabrics, needlepoint, Burda patterns, fashion
trends, quilting, and more.  Well know instructors, including Pati
Palmer, Sandra Betzina, Ann Person, Kathleen Spike and more. 
 
Some of the fabric stores have fliers with all of the details (except
a schedule of the class times). 
 
----------------------------- 
 
June's Fabric Shop in Lake Oswego is going out of business and has
everything 50% off 
 
----------------------------- 
 
(I'm not affiliated with either of these events.)  I also hope the
pdx distribution worked!
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: tbachman@hamline.edu (Toni Bachman)
Subject: Linings
Summary: HELP!! 
Organization: Hamline University, St. Paul, MN.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:39:02 GMT

Hi Again:

Well last night I was working on a vest for my youngest son and it was lined.
I have never sewn lining before, but, it looked easy enough.  Little did I
know that the lining was so slippery.  And, it seems that the stitches were
very tiny compared to the length I had set.  At any rate, does anyone have
any ideas to make lining a breeze?  I used a tricot lining - maybe I should
have used something else?  I guess, (after much ripping out) this one does
not look so bad, but I have fabric to make a few more.

Thanks!

Toni

tbachman@hamline.edu
From: rrah@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Runa Rahman)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: making underwire bras
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:37:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <1992Sep14.231108.9509@cvedc.prime.com> dorothy@cvedc.prime.com (Dorothy Robinson) writes:
>
>For my first experiment, I took store-bought bras and copied the best
>features of each into a new one. 

Are you using a commercial pattern, or drafting one from your store bought
stuff?  There are patterns out there for bras, bustiers, etc. that might
help.
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: rrah@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Runa Rahman)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing,rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Shermane Fouche patterns - I got them
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:51:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Just wanted to let those interested in the Shermane Fouche patterns that I
received them - they are really lovely.  They are printed and cased like
ordinary patterns (on tan tissue paper in a 8"x5" envelope), and contain
all sizes.

For the price, I just don't have the heart to cut into them, just in case
I need the other sizes later (for my sister? for my possible-daughter-of-the-
future?  for me? (in case I change sizes)), so I'm going to trace them out
in my size.

Runa
 
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf)
Subject: Re: Goodwill stores as a source - was Fabriholics Anon
Reply-To: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf)
Organization: Materials Research Lab
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:36:13 GMT


Oh yes! One of my "hot spots" for crazy quilt material! I go to the
Salvation Army store every chance I get to pick up old ties and clothes.
It's GREAT for crazy quilt scraps. My husband picks up tired old
all-cotton shirts to use in his papermaking hobby. I've gotten 
several silk shirts and ties there for pennies. Fifty cents for a tie,
two bucks tops for a shirt...any shirt!  I *LOVE* going to Goodwill
and the Salvation Army!!! (Salvation Army is cheaper than the
Goodwill store here...)
 
Kay
 
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      Kay Schlumpf     University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign,  MRLCFC
bitnet:   schlumpf@uiucmrl    	   internet: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu
Wife to Peter, the Patient; Mommy to Baeki, the Happy Cocker Spaniel
and Siegfried, the soon-to-arrive Cuddly German Shepard; 
Owned by Pixel, the Cuddly Siamese and Dante, the Quilter's Cat. Also
Quilter, Collector of Model Horses, and Horse Fiend! 
             All opinions are my own...mine mine mine, ALL MINE!
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From: reginab@autodesk.uucp (Regina Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Wool Melton
Keywords: Have I got a store for you...
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:28:26 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Autodesk, Inc., Sausalito, CA

I think that the two places that you would
want to check out first would be Poppy Fabrics 
on Broadway in Oakland and Stone Mountain and 
Daughters in Berkeley on Shattuck.  I have
shopped in both places before (ok, not very
often because I just can't afford it) and had
to be dragged out of them before I overindulged.
Both places specialize in natural fibers and 
are just wonderful places to wander around in.
I am sure that Stonemountain will have the melton 
that you want...they have an entire wall of
wools all year 'round!

sigh
I *love* the Bay Area!
regina(womaninsearchoftimetosew!)b


Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer)
Subject: Re: making gifts for friends
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:48:17 GMT

I've seen a lot of comments by people who were disappointed when
their handmade gifts were not appreciated "properly".  I think 
that this is sometimes a taste issue, not a lack of appreciation.

I, for example, like contemporary furniture and a very uncluttered,
spare look.  If you give me something with lace or ruffles or a floral
pattern, I'm not going to display it in my living room.  I'm probably
not even going to like it.  In fact, I'm probably going to wait a
decent interval and then send it to the hospital thrift store that my
mother volunteers at.  It's not an issue of cost, it's not that it's
"homemade", it's just that it doesn't fit in.

In the matter of clothing, there's another issue--care.  I don't buy
anything that has to be handwashed or ironed.  Period.  If you give me
something that needs more care than I'm willing to give, tough.  I
don't care how much time and effort you lavished over it, it'll hang
in my closet for a while and then ... off to "New to You".

That's the risk you take when you _give_ something to someone.  Once
it's theirs, they can do anything with it they want.  They can throw
it out, sell it, burn it for kindling--anything they want.  You can't
make them love it or cherish it or use it.  

I don't give needlepoint to anyone that I'm not really close to, so
that I can ask, to be sure that it's the right color, the right style,
the right size.  I do sometimes make something on speculation and then
ask the intended recipient if they'd like it but I never wrap
something up and thrust it on them, expecting gratitude.

I know this sounds harsh, but I think it's realistic.  You can't
blackmail people into liking things they don't like, just because you
spent a lot of effort on it.  Let the joy of creating be your reward,
with any unlooked-for appreciation being a bonus.  If you can't accept
the possibility of your work being unappreciated, don't give it away
unless you _know_ (perhaps by asking before you start) that the
recipient wants it.

--
Mary Shafer  DoD #0362 KotFR NASA Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA
shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov                    Of course I don't speak for NASA
 "There's no kill like a guns kill." LCDR "Hoser" Satrapa, gunnery instructor
                       "A kill is a kill."  Anonymous

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