HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 11:08:00 EST
Reply-To:     "Philip Gallagher,(919)966-1065" <UPHILG@UNC.BITNET>
From:         "Philip Gallagher,(919)966-1065" <UPHILG@UNC.BITNET>
Subject: Wanted: Restaurants, etc. for SESUG in Clearwater

ANNOTATED RECOMMENDATIONS for Restaurants, Clubs, Off-The-Wall
Entertainments in the Tampa/Clearwater area wanted, please.

    SESUG will be in Clearwater in February.  Our conference chair
    has supplied us with a fine list of restaurants, entertainments,
    etc., but I bet there are many of you who have favorite hangouts
    in the Tampa area that wouldn't make it to a conference list.
    Dirt cheap Cuban restaurants way downtown, hole-in-the-wall bars
    with super Cuba libres, who knows?

    As we have done in the past, if you have a recommendation, please
    send it to me (with a distinctive Subject line, please, like
    "Margaritaville", or something), and I will make a compendium.
    If it seems reasonable I'll send it to the entire list, otherwise
    I'll just print it out and pin it up on the bulletin board at
    SESUG.  Probably send it to the entire list - if you're not getting
    to Tampa/Clearwater for SESUG, well, some one of your professional
    organizations will go there someday, and then the list will come
    in handy.

                               Phil Gallagher
                               uphilg@unc.bitnet
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 10:14:25 -0500
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From:         multiple@MSHRI.UTORONTO.CA
Subject:      VMS catalog --> DOS catalog
Comments: To: sas-l@vtvm2.cc.vt.edu@grind.utcs.utoronto.ca

Hi SAS users:

Happy New Year!

Last year (few weeks ago) I had been asking how to transport a VMS dataset
to a DOS dataset.  Thank you for all your suggestions (Using PROC COPY with
XPORT engine and remove carriage returns from VMS).  Now, I have another
question which is quite similar to this:

To transport a VMS catalog to a DOS catalog.  What I have been trying so
far but not worked - the XPORT engine does not accept the catalog
(by specifying MEMTYPE = catalog).  Any idea?

Thanks in advance.

Kenneth Kwok
Clinical Epidemiology
Mount Sinai Hospital
(Please send suggestion to "MULTIPLE@mshri.utoronto.ca" since I cannot
reach the SAS bulletin)
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No messages have been received from SAS-L for some time.  Is this list still
in use?
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Subject:      Oops...

I meant to reply directly to the guy who asked if we still used SAS-L.  I sent
it to the net instead of the nerd.  Sorry.  Did the guy really expect 40
answers saying that SAS-L was shut down?  Who would have sent them?
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Subject:      VSE SAS questions
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content      : Response
summary      : some hints on SAS output with JCL, maybe relevant to VSE?
rlse/platform: V6.07 / MVS
Ron Fehd     :                SMTP:BitNet:    <rjf2@phpdls1.em.cdc.gov>
              Centers for Disease Control
              1600 Clifton Rd  MS:G25         FAX  : 404/639-1778
              Atlanta, GA 30333  USA          phone: 404/639-1707

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Subject:      VSE SAS questions
...
  In our system the SAS ouput goes to the list queue before it is printed.
Every time I run a job I get two output files in the queue.  One is for
the actual SAS listing and the other is the program output.  In the file with
the reports though I am also receiving all kinds of extra garbage that the
people the reports are for don't care about.  Things like JCL and file format
things.  What I want to do is turn this off or direct it to another file in
the list queue.  Does anyone know if there is a way to do this?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Allen E. Stoner                       Internet: astoner@mcis.messiah.edu
  Academic Application Programmer                 Messiah College
  Voice:  (717)766-2511 ext. 7109       Fax:  (717)691-6002
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

this used to frustrate me no end: having the JCL with the output.
I mean, do I need a half a tree of JCL with every report, all ready?

I'd suggest that you get your systems programmers and look at the
PROCLIB where SAS is executed from. In MVS the output destination is
controlled with the CLASS= and WTR= parms. You obviously have the JCL
and the (V5.18::FT12F001, V6.0?::SASLIST)
directed to the same output queue.

endSAS;
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:51:21 PST
Reply-To:     Thomas M Skinner <Thomas_M_Skinner@CCM.HF.INTEL.COM>
From:         Thomas M Skinner <Thomas_M_Skinner@CCM.HF.INTEL.COM>
Subject:      DASD DIFFICULTIES, IBM3390 MODEL 3
Comments: To: SAS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU

                                                         January 12, 1993
                                                         Folsom, California
                                                         Cloudy, 40's

     Dear SAS-Lers,

     The systems folks here have encountered application package (M&D)
     specific difficulties when installing on IBM 3390 Model 3 DASD
     (MVS/ESA). Just curious if anyone else has encountered any problems.
     We have not yet installed SAS on these volumes, however if there is a
     potential problem, we would appreciate hearing about it.

     Thanks in Advance.

     Intel-Insider,
     Tom Skinner
     ======================================================================
     T.M. Skinner               Internet: Thomas_M_Skinner@CCM.HF.INTEL.COM
     Sr. SAS Technical Support      Mail: 1600 Prairie City Rd. MS FM1-102
     Intel Corporation                    Folsom, CA 95630
     ======================================================================
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 10:31:50 EST
Reply-To:     Jeff Davis <NY921603@PACEVM.BITNET>
From:         Jeff Davis <NY921603@PACEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      dos 5.0 & SAS 6.0.4

I was wondering, does anyone know (in short form) any advantages/
disadvantages of using DOS 5.0 as opposed to DOS 3.3.  Basically
should I upgrade and why ( not just upgrade for upgrade sake )?
Also what is the maximum amount of expanded memory I can access using
SAS 6.04.
I have a 286 machine, with 2 Mb expanded memory ( I'm thinking of getting
more memory ), and a math coprocessor.  Getting a new machine is not
a realistic option.

Tanks
Jeff
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:28:00 EST
Reply-To:     "Robert M. Hamer 908-932-2696" <HAMER@ZODIAC.BITNET>
From:         "Robert M. Hamer 908-932-2696" <HAMER@ZODIAC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Obtaining file mode in SCL in CMS

>Daryl Hoffman is using SAS/AF version 6.07 on CMS and asks:
>>  Is there an SCL function or command that allows me to retrieve the
>> 'filemode' of a SAS library ?

and Andy Norton <76350.1604@COMPUSERVE.COM> replied:

>   2)  The SASHELP.VSTABLE SQL view has columns LIBNAME and PATH.  You
>       could read from it using a WHERE clause on LIBNAME.  This works
>       for non-SCL applications.
>       See page 291 of Tech Report P-222 (6.07 Base Enhancements)

>   Both of these are standard SAS, not CMS host-specific.

Also there are several other views in SASHELP with would have
that information, such as MEMBERS.  Note that SQL refers to
these views as dictionary.tables.
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Reply-To:     Willy Waks <73437.344@COMPUSERVE.COM>
From:         Willy Waks <73437.344@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      NorthTexas Users Group
Comments: To: SAS-L@ohstvma.bitnet

January Meetings:

In order to accommodate members and guests from different locations and with
 different  schedules, NOTSUG - the North
Texas SAS Users Group - will hold two meetings this quarter, one in Dallas in
 the afternoon, and one in Fort-Worth in the
evening. This will be an experiment,  and if  successful, may become a regular
 NOTSUG feature.

FORT- WORTH

Tuesday, January 19,  1993 6:00 pm to 8:00 pm

Texas College of Osteopathic Medicine
3500 Camp Bowie Boulevard
Fort-Worth

Park in Lot C, go the Library Building, then to  the Mini Auditorium, Room 110
 in the
basement.

RSVP: Jim Defoor (817) 777-1590


DALLAS

Wednesday, January 20, 1993 1:00 pm to 4:00 pm

Digital Equipment Corporation
4851 LBJ Freeway
Suite 900
Dallas

DEC is located at the corner of LBJ and the Tollway.
Go to the receptionist on the 9th floor for registration.

RSVP: Curtis Pellegrin (214) 655-8712

Program: Feature Speaker:

Steve Blackson from SAS Institute will present the new SAS Developer Release for
Windows, Version 6.08,  at both locations.

Business meeting, including elections of new officers.

Dallas meeting only:
Brad Clarke from DEC will briefly introduce new DEC computers, and participants
 will
have a chance to experiment with SAS on the new DEC Alpha Workstation.

If time permits, presentation of a Video Tutorial on PROC REPORT.

Fees: Free for paid members - $5 for guests

Bonus !  Bonus ! Bonus !
The first 20 people who pay their new members / renewal dues at the Dallas
 meeting (only) will receive a free copy of the
Proceedings of the 1992 South Central SAS Users Group.

<<Errare humanum est... sed perseverare diabolicum !>>
Willy Waks
2W Systems Co., Inc 5430 Alpha Road Suite 200 Dallas TX 75240
Tel: 214-6618619 Fax: 214-6610130
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:01:57 EST
Reply-To:     Andy Norton <76350.1604@COMPUSERVE.COM>
From:         Andy Norton <76350.1604@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Obtaining a library reference within an AF application
Comments: To: SAS-L <SAS-L@AWIIMC12.IMC.UNIVIE.AC.AT>

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CONTENT:   Response
SUMMARY:   Obtaining pathname from libref
REL/PLTF:  6.07.0304/CMS, 6.04/PC-DOS, beta 6.08/OS2
E-ADDR:    76350.1604@compuserve.com
NAME:      Andy Norton
ADDRESS:   Trilogy Consulting, 5148 Lovers Lane, Kalamazoo MI 49002 USA
PHONE:     (616) 344-4100
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Daryl Hoffman is using SAS/AF version 6.07 on CMS and asks:
>  Is there an SCL function or command that allows me to retrieve the
> 'filemode' of a SAS library ?

On CMS, the 'filemode' is a component of the external file name, what
SAS refers to as the "pathname".

There are at least two good ways to do this, both new in 6.07:
   1)  The SCL PATHNAME function
         filename = PATHNAME(fileref);
       this works for both filerefs and librefs.
       See page 224 of Tech Report P-216 (6.07 enhancements to SCL)
   2)  The SASHELP.VSTABLE SQL view has columns LIBNAME and PATH.  You
       could read from it using a WHERE clause on LIBNAME.  This works
       for non-SCL applications.
       See page 291 of Tech Report P-222 (6.07 Base Enhancements)

   Both of these are standard SAS, not CMS host-specific.

Andy
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 11:23:34 EST
Reply-To:     Michael Davis <75046.1627@COMPUSERVE.COM>
From:         Michael Davis <75046.1627@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Re: MS-DOS 5.0 and Expanded Memory
Comments: To: SAS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

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CONTENT:    Response to Question about MS-DOS 5.0, Expanded Memory
SUMMARY:    Stay Put! (until hardware upgrade)
REL/PLTF:   6.04/MS-DOS
E-ADDR:     0002395748@mcimail.com
P-ADDR:     BC&BS OF Conn., 370 Bassett Road, North Haven, CT 06473
PHONE:      (203)-985-7187
FAX:        (203)-985-7030
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Jeff Davis (no relation to me) <NY921603@PACEVM.BITNET> asks about
what he would get out of upgrading from MS-DOS 3.3 to MS-DOS 5.0
on a personal computer with a Intel 80286 microprocessor.

Jeff, you would get:

- MS-DOS Shell
- UNFORMAT and UNDELETE commands
- online help
- full screen editor
- ability to create disk partitions greater than 32MB
- ability to search for files through multiple levels of directories
- ability to recall and edit previous commands
- QBASIC, an improved BASIC programming environment

MS-DOS 5.0 also gives you the ability to load MS-DOS and device drivers
in high memory, freeing conventional memory for programs that need it,
such as SAS.  You need extended, not expanded memory, to use this feature.

You also asked about expanded memory under release 6.04.  I don't
know the theorectical limit but there is very little benefit to
going beyond 2MB of expanded memory for this release.

If I were you, I would not invest any more money on this computer
system or purchase the MS-DOS upgrade.  Sooner or later, the
6.04 release will be "orphaned" and you will have to choose to run
SAS under Windows, OS/2 or some other platform.  At that point, you
will have to get a new machine and the operating system will be part
of the deal.

Perhaps as hardware prices continue to drop, the powers that be will
agree to let you acquire a more powerful system.  Good luck!


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From: Daryl R. Hoffman <drh4@apix.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cursor Position in FSEDIT Called from AF
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 19:58:47 GMT

Subject:      Cursor Position in FSEDIT Called from AF
From: Patrick Spreng, 76666.136@COMPUSERVE.COM
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:14:00 EST
In article <921230211359_76666.136_CHL73-1@CompuServe.COM> Patrick
Spreng, 76666.136@COMPUSERVE.COM writes:
>SAS/FSP and SAS/AF Version 6.07
>
>Amnon Igra writes:
>
>> I am using the call fsedit function in a SAS AF SCL program. When I
use it
>> without specifying a screen, then the cursor automatically is placed
on the
>> first variable in the default screen, and the tab key takes the cursor
to the
>> next variable just like I want it to.
>>
>> When I specify a screen, and then modify the screen using SAS FSEDIT
screen
>> modify menu, I no longer get the cursor to work as before. I don't
think I
>> should have to write another SCL program in FSEDIT. Can anyone help me
figure
>> out why the cursor no longer responds to the tab key, and why it no
longer is
>> initially placed on the first screen variable? Thanks very much!
>
>I know of two ways to change the cursor position.  One is
>documented on page 269 of "SAS/FSP Software Usage and
>Reference."  The CURSOR command is entered while you are in the
>FSEDIT window and changes the default cursor position used each
>time an observation is displayed.
>
>The other way is to add the CURSOR SCL statement to the INIT
>section of your program.  This is documented on page 134 of
>"SAS Screen Control Language Reference."  This is the method
>that I use when I'm developing FSEDIT applications called from
>SAS/AF version 6.07 under MVS.
>
>        FSEINIT:
>           return;
>        INIT:
>           cursor wvarname;
>           return;
>        MAIN:
>           ...
>
>I hope that this is helpful in your situation of SAS 6.04.


  I believe that what Amnon was asking is why is the default cursor
position not being set when he uses a permanent user defined screen, and
it was set when he used the SAS FSEDIT default screen.  The cursor should
be positioned on the first field of the screen, unless the applications
programmer specifies otherwise.  I have not had any problems with this in
SAS 6.07 running with VM/ESA 1.1.

  The cursor command is the way to make sure that the user is placed on
the appropriate field, and Bruce has answered that.
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:57:00 EST
Reply-To:     Chen Xi <CHENX@CUA.BITNET>
From:         Chen Xi <CHENX@CUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ML vs OLS in regression

At first, when the error is assumed to be normal, ML and OLS are
equivalent. Without the normal assumption, they might be different.
One of the important application of the ML estimator is the model
selection with information theoretical criteria.  When the evaluation of
the model is based on the entropy, the maximum likelihood estimation
is required.
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:12:51 CST
Reply-To:     Nancy <HILL@CMSUVMA.BITNET>
From:         Nancy <HILL@CMSUVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      SAS 6.07 under VM/ESA CMS Level 8

We are currently running 6.07 under VM/CMS (CMS level 5). We are in the
process a replacing one of our CPUs. When we do this we will be going
to VM/ESA, the system people are checking into what release level, I don't
know if it will be 7 or 8. Another site has told me that they are having
trouble with 6.07 running under VM/ESA level 8 when 6.07 is in shared
segments. It appears to produce all of its output correctly, but abends
during close processing before it can return successfully to the CMS ready.
They do not have problems at the release level 7. We will want to run as
shared segments. Can anyone give me more information on this? Is there
a zap for this problem? Any and all information might help us with our
near future upgrade.
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:16:21 EST
Reply-To:     "Rob Cymbala--N. Amer. Maple Project" <NAMP@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         "Rob Cymbala--N. Amer. Maple Project" <NAMP@SUVM.BITNET>

 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 CONTENT:   Hint
 SUMMARY:   Making LOG with macros easier to read when using MPRINT option
 REL/PLTF:  6.07.01 / VM/HPO 5.0

 E-ADDR:    NAMP@suvm.bitnet
 NAME:      Robert Cymbala / North American Maple Project
 ADDRESS:   133 Illick Hall; SUNY-ESF; 1 Forestry Dr; Syracuse NY 13210
 PHONE:     315) 470-6742
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Here is a discovery I'd like to share.  It concerns output to the LOG
window (or SASLOG) when macros are involved and when OPTIONS MPRINT
is in use.

If there is an extra semicolon at the beginning and end of a macro
definition, at least two lines will always be in the LOG, of the form
     MPRINT (macroname): ;

If a macro does not generate SAS statements, there is usually no
indication in the LOG window that the macro ever was invoked.  This
is the case where it is very handy to have the macro reveal itself in
the LOG (especially when debugging becomes tedious).

Example:
 %Macro Words(x); ;
   %Local wordsi; %Let wordsi=0;
   %Do %While (%scan(&x,&wordsi+1) ne );
     %let wordsi=%eval(&wordsi+1);
   %End;
   &wordsi
 ; %mend;
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Subject:      SouthEast SAS Users Group
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From:         Melvin Klassen <KLASSEN@UVVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Division by Zero in CMS

Lisa King <LMJY@CORNELLA> writes:
> I've been off the list for a few months,
> so please forgive me if this problem is old hat.
You're forgiven!  :-)
You missed the following posting:
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Date:         Thu, 3 Dec 1992 22:11:46 PST
From:         VM/CMS consulting test account <CONTEST@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      CMS SAS 6.06 et. al. Divide by Zero. Reply (CMS Apar)

 Just saw the queries regarding divide-by-zero handling by SAS 6.06
 under VM/XA CMS.  We ran into data set truncation and passed the problem
 to SAS Tech. support.  As noted, the problem did not occur in 5.18 nor 6.07.
 The fix turned out to be the application of a CMS 'APAR' (see Encl. log).
 Bob Jamieson U. of Washington, Seattle, Wa. (206) 543-2877
 SAS:  6.601. maint 7/92;  (6.07 TS301. maint 8/92;  5.18. maint 6/92)
 SYSTEM: IBM 3090. VM/XA CMS 5.6, Ser. Lev. 201 SP Rel. 21, Ser. Lev. 0202
Encl. (systems log entry):
 06/23 1345    Applied CMS APAR VM41384 (PTF UM14944) to fix a problem
               with passing an incorrect failing PSW address to an ESTAE
               exit routine.  SAS detected this problem when attempting
               to fix a divide-by-zero exception.
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