From: indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: RSS ( for those in quest of truth)
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:21:33 GMT
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Originator: indu@iss700

>Article: 82667 of soc.culture.indian
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
>Subject: Re: RSS ( JAVED and his  RELEVANCE FUNDA)

>|> >Subject: Re: RSS   ( also enclosed THE SYLLABI changes article)
>|> 
>|> >The article appeared in the Aug 15,'92 issue of the India Today on page 76
>|> >and was titled : 
>|> 
>|> >I'm not interested in posting the entire article. Its readily available in
>|> >the India Today (Aug 15,'92 edition). 
>|> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>|> UNDERSTANDABLE. 
>|> WHEN YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN PROVIDING THE NECESSARY 
>|> DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE THEN  WHAT DO YOU THINK JUNTA SHOULD DO? TAKE YOUR
>|> access to "INDIA TODAY" as granted and accept all your versions and
>|> interpretations of NEWS as-is basis? 
>|> 
>|> >--Javed.
>|> >
>|> 
>|> -Indu.
>
>                 ............ (stuff deleted)
>the article. It is not upon him to reprint the whole article here. Do
>you ask your proffessor to type out a whole article from the journals
>and proceedings as proof of what he/she says ?  The proffessor only 
>gives the references. Its upto us to dig it out now and read it. I am 
>not saying that the reference he gave is true or not. I am also not 
   WELL IT IS ACCEPTABLE, BUT WITH A PROFESSOR OR SOMEONE LIKE THAT.  NEXT, if 
   the "PROFESSOR" is made to understand that I donot have access to the 
   source he would be kind enough to give me all that.
   AND ALSO THE RELATIONSHIP THERE IS, IT IS WE WHO ARE IN SEARCH and the
   "PROFESSOR" is a Guide. Thats it.
       (Now say a PHYSICS professor, with whom you are doing  your fellowship
        research comments something off-line on say some freudian theory about
        whom you hold great belief then what do you do? 
        Do you go dig up the way you do for your research journals? And if 
        his comments go to the level of allegation then what? THEN IT REMAINS 
        TO THE "ALLIGATOR" to PROVE HIMSELF AND HIS ALLEGATIONS.)

>saying that his interpretations are wrong or right. I myself do not 
>have access to Ind.Today. But once he has given the full reference 
>(right upto the page numbers), then I am willing to agree that an 
>article referring to the above matter *most probably* appeared since 
>Mr. Javed does not strike out as kiddish prankster. 
   
   EVEN I Concede that Javed could be a real serious guy in search of 
   TRUTH and is trying to find HISTORY  and link them to CURRENT EVENTS
   iff he can come out with this article. ONCE HE COMES WITH THIS ARTICLE
   SOME ONE  ON THE NET CAN IMMEDIATLEY COMMENT WHETHER IT IS VERBATIM TO WHAT 
   HAS BEEN PUBLISHED IN INDIA TODAY.
   
   
>
>>From what he quotes verbatim, it does not seem that Javed is stretching 
>his interpretations. However, there is every possibility that the author 
>(N.K.Singh ?) of this alleged article has stretched his facts and 
>interpretations. May be we should discuss that. 
> 
>regards,
>--   

   I never said or hinted any of the above. The only point I'm trying to 
   clarify is WHAT  IS RELEVANT TO JAVED AND HIS ARTICLE NEED NOT ALWAYS
   BE RELEVANT. PROBABLY IT COULD BE SOME VAGUE COMMENT MADE IN SOME TEA-STALL,
   MADE BY SOME  muslim-fundamentalist or by some OPPOSITION member or
   any other source. WHICH BY ITSLEF MAY BE VERY CATCHY but not really 
   giving pointers to FACTS. 
            "JOURNALISM".  
    As you yourself  know, having access to
   Ind. TODAY here is not all that easy. SO WHAT WILL WE DISCUSS. Shall we
   proceed on what could have been written and what could have been published
   and then go at  length on the subject?

   IT IS BECAUSE OF THESE above stuff, one can always say and getaway. If it 
   strikes the target then it is fine. If it doesn't strike then also its fine.
   Next attempt is always there to hit the target.  

   ANYWAY lets try to get hold of that article, and proceed,
   ( even I'm trying for that in the past few days. 
     I TRY BECAUSE I WANT TO  DEFEND A TRUE PATRIOTIC ORGANISATION WHOSE IDEALS
     AND LIFE, UNSELFISH DEDICATION CAN NEVER BE UNDERSTOOD BY fundamentalists.
     AND IT IS THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY EFFECTED BY SUCH GREAT IDEALS 
     (which they are unable to realise as their only savior in INDIAN society)
     and remain spreading their "relevant" theories.

     IT IS NOT THAT   RSS  IS GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THESE ARGUMENTS
     AND COUNTER ARGUMENTS, BUT ONLY TO STAND UPTO TRUTH AND DEFEND IT AT WHAT
     EVER COST I WRITE WHICH GIVES ME SATISFACTION.

     Ha! Ha! Ha! As you have said WHO KNOWS  N.K.SINGH may be a fundamentalist
     JOURNALIST. ANY WAY   INDIA TODAY is not a philanthropic, truth loving,
     nation oriented magazine to be accepted in verbatim.  IT IS A BUSINESS 
     MAG. IT CATERS TO THE NEEDS OF POLITICAL readers and what satiates 
     their apetite is projected. We should take only the news content from 
     such articles and form our views. If we leave the process of  moulding
     our opinions to some JOURNALIST we become mental clones of some 
     some new-paper-journalist.)
     
-Indu.
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P.S.: CALL-II  -  can some one please post us with this above mentioned article.
      Thanks in advance