From: nadeem@igpho (Nadeem Malik)
Subject: Re: RFD: SOC.RELIGION.ISLAM.AHMADIYYA
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 15:26:42 GMT

merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant) writes:
: In article <1992Nov5.194045.11937@bernina.ethz.ch>, nadeem@igpho (Nadeem Malik) writes:
: > merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant) writes:
: > : In article <100396@bu.edu>, khalid@bu-bio.bu.edu (Rasheed A. Khalid) writes:
: > 
: > My dear Miss Rukhsana, you have made the classic errors: (1) reading only
: 
: I am not *your* dear Miss anything!!

I beg your pardon Ms Rukhsana. No offense ment.

But you haven't addressed the errors (1) and (2). 


: 
: > : It seems to me the newsgroup already in existence is not used because
: > : of the controversy and the labeling of such people as unbelievers.  A 
: > : moderated newsgroup would allow the newsgroup to post articles suitable to 
: > : propaganda the values of Ahmadiyaa Islam ONLY!
: >   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: > It has been made clear that this not the case!
: > 
: Has it? 
: 
: > : 
: > : A Muslim does not need a title Ahmadiyya added to it to make him a
: >                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: > nor do Sunnis need 'Sunni' title etc. These are only labels for distinguishing
: > different people.
: 
: Yes.  But the Ahmadiyya community refer to their Islam as Ahmadia Islam.  Sunnis
: or Shia's dont.

On the contrary, in all speeches literature we refer to our Religion as Islam
and ourselves as Muslims when it is clear; the only time we say Islam and
Ahmadiyyat is to clarify fro those who do not know us or to distinguish
ourselves from other Muslims e.g. Sunni Muslims, Shia Muslims. (Actually I have
never come across the term Ahmadia Islam before in our officila literature.)
: 
: > 
: > : Muslim.  He only needs to follow the Sunnah of Prophet Muhammed (SAW)
: > : and the Quran to keep to the straight path.  A Muslim is a brother to 
: > : another Muslim.  Prophet Muhammed (SAW) has asked us to follow the
: > : main group.  Being a Muslim means loving Prophet Muhammed (SAW) most
: >   ^^^^^^^^^^
: > I think that this only applies to community matters; cannot be applied to
: > matters of present day theology because of the hadith above which says that
: > 72 out of 73 sects would go to hell!
: > 
: It is only up to ALLAH (SWT) to judge who will go to hell.

This is a strong Hadis (I think from Sahih Muslim or one of the top 6 books
in any case) from the mouth of the Holy Prophet! You have emphasised following
the sunna of the Holy Prophet (SAW) repeatedly in your articles ... will you
not accept this Hadis also? (This is what I was referring to above as reading
only your own selected Hadis.)
: 
: > : among mankind and following his Sunnah.  A muslim == a servant of ALLAH (SWT)
: > : and we serve HIM best by following the Sunnah of Prophet Muhammed (SAW).
: > : 
: > : Rukhsana [a servant of ALLAH (swt)] Merchant
: > 
: > By the way, you forgot to say Wasalam! (Or maybe you didn't?)
: > 
: > Waslam,
: > Nadeem Malik
: > nadeem@p.igp.ethz.ch
: 
: The question still remains as to what is the name of the newsgroup going to be,
: if at all there is going to be a newsgroup.

soc.religion.islam.ahmadiyya
: 
: 
: Ms. Merchant.

I see that you didn't in fact forget to say wasalam.

Nadeem Malik
nadeem@p.igp.ethz.ch

"Say not to those who greet you with salutations of Peace 'You are unbeliever' ". 
(Quaran)
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