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Subject: Re: Swashbuckling Games?
From: tatakamoto@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu (Teri Takamoto)
Date: 5 Jan 93 06:16:38 PST
Reply-To: tatakamoto@csupomona.edu
Distribution: world
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Keywords: Pirates!, Pirates Gold, MicroProse, Sid Meier
Summary: Pirates/Pirates Gold
Nntp-Posting-User: tatakamoto

In article <123930029@hpindda.cup.hp.com>, goo@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Michael Goo) writes:
> jwstuart@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jesse William Leo Stuart) writes...
> 
>>	Does anyone know of any good swashbuckling games (ie games with pir-
>>ates (the sailling ship kind, not the computer kind) as a subject?  A 
>>good shareware game would be perfect.
>  
> Pirates! (MicroProse)
> 
> This game was available for the PC a while back (I think it's out of print
> now).  It was written by Sid Mier (sp?) and is up to his usual high standards.
> You take the roll of a English/French/Dutch/Spanish Captain.  You sail the
> Caribbean and experience some of the following:

     [features deleted]
     You might still be able to get Pirates! very cheap like less than
$10.  Try to find software closeout bins.

> Pirates Gold (MicroProse)
> 
> I have seen ads promising an updated version of Pirates.  When this will be
> out is anybody's guess.

     Last I heard on this was June 1993. 
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From: fischer@netmbx.netmbx.de (Axel Fischer)
Subject: Re: Alone in the Dark-Is it any good?
Organization: netmbx, Berlin, Germany
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 12:19:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.081439.12878@ericsson.se> Fredric.Lonngren@eos.ericsson.se (Fredric Lonngren) writes:
>|> thought Alone in the Dark looked pretty good. Is it more arcade than
>6 out of 10 I'd say. Cool graphics & sound but some quite annoing problems.
>One gripe is that the story is driven by reading a LOT of books you find
>everywhere, rather than by traditional quest-solving. So you must find and 
>read a book to get hints on how to solve quests with your objects. 
>I prefere the traditional way where objects and quests are connected by 
>(mostly) logical and natural relations.  

This is not as bad as you state it. The books are very short (5 pages or so)
and you can read all the books in the games in max. 15 minutes.

>Yes, quite spooky. 
The sound effects are superb. Dim the lights, turn up the volume and you
will get chills.

-Axel
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fischer@netmbx.de                                                   DoD #0228
From: shecht@lamar.ColoState.EDU (steven heckt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: laplink 2 player games?
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:16:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

Can I use two 386s hooked by laplink to play a game? any recommendations?
Nothing fancy, preferrably cheap and somewhat simple, like a maze game?
If this is a FAQ- just point me to the ftp site. thanks
(it is hard to tell by the cover of 2 player games if they are only for
modems- like "wolf" etc)
steve
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From: ctoth@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher M Toth)
Subject: Ultima Underworld
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 03:55:22 GMT


	I have been trying to get the ring of truth forever it seems,
I know the right level and room, but I can't figure out the right lever
combination. I even bought the cluebook but *still* couldn't get it. I
am done with levels 1-6 except for getting the ring, any help?

Thanks,
Chris

-- 
Christopher M. Toth             | "... We travel in the dark of a new moon
The Ohio State University       | A starry highway traced on the map of the sky
Columbus State                  | Like lovers and heroes,
CIS/History/Classics/ect..Major | Lonely as the eagle's cry..." -Peart
From: jamie@heavy.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Alone in the Dark Crack Wanted...
Date: 4 Jan 93 10:22:10 GMT
Reply-To: jamie@heavy.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Does anyone have a crack for Alone in the Dark ? if so, please mail it to me or
put it on an ftp site somewhere...

Thanks in advance,

				Jamie.
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From: seurer@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Bill Seurer)
Subject: Re: UW2 Arrghhhh!!
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:14:00 GMT
Reply-To: BillSeurer@vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <1irt4qINNrtu@coli-gate.coli.uni-sb.de>, atoenne@mpi-sb.mpg.de (Andreas Toenne) writes:
|> In article <1822@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>, labdg@emory.edu (Diego) writes:
|> |> So, I think perhaps I'll try the NEXT shipment of UW2 disks they
|> |> get here.   
|> 
|> I suggest you try cleaning/adjusting your floppy drives first.
|> The chance of four different sets of professional written disks being
|> bad is *very* small.

It may be small, but it happens.  Once a whole set (7) of disks I got DIRECT
from SSI were unreadable.  They were very apologetic and sent another set
right away (which worked).

I assumed either they were written wrong to begin with or were exposed to
some high intesity magnetic field on the way.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: jennifer@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Jennifer Schlickbernd)
Subject: Re: Dune II: Question?
Reply-To: jennifer@jato.jpl.nasa.gov
Organization: Jet Propulsion Lab - Pasadena, CA
Distribution: "na"
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:35:32 GMT

law40001@nusunix1.nus.sg (CHENG KWONG WING) writes:


>Has anyone out there managed to takeover an enemy construction yet?

>I know that some constructions like WORs can't be taken over but the
>manual states that others can.  Haven't had much luck myself though, by
>the time the troopers get close enough their usually dead!!!

I took over an Ordos Light Vehicle factory for all of about 5 minutes playing
the Harkonnen in the third scenario.  My Quads had taken down the factory to 
the red zone, and the infantry did the rest.  I couldn't hold it, since I
didn't have the credits to repair it, and the enemy of course was right
on top of the factory.  Yes, after the third scenario and the introduction
of combat tanks and missile launchers particularly, infantry are pretty
useless.


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From: albertb@netcom.com (Albert Barajas)
Subject: Games for sale or trade
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:09:25 GMT

Games for sale or trade

Falcon 3.0	3.5, includes reg card	$26
F-19		3.5			Best offer
Wayne Gretzky Hockey 2	3.5		Best offer
Hockey League Simulator	3.5		Best offer

This game is only available for trade (belongs to a friend)

John Madden Football II		3.5, includes reg card	

Please note that the above prices do not include postage.


Albert
albertb@netcom.com
From: wrsauerw@apgea.army.mil (William R. Sauerwald <wrsauerw>)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: Computerized Squad Leader?
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:01:57 GMT
Organization: APG-Edgewood

In article <1993Jan11.162238.1@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu> cvalj001@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu writes:
>
>  Are there any games which closely approxiamte the board games Squad Leader
>or Advanced Squad Leader?  Anyone anything about the Avalon Hill computer game
>Under Fire?  
>
>Thanks in advance! 
>
	Yes.  SSI makes a game called Typhoon of Steel which resembles the
Squad Leader strategy on the W Europe/Africa/Pacific fronts.  I beleive they
also make a game similar, but on the Eastern Front.  These games are squad/unit
type games.  They also make games for divisional/brigade type stratgey (Western
Front) and the whole WWII, that covers production, research, etc (Storm 
Across Europe).  Now they have a new game called Pacific War, that covers the
entire PTO.  All of these SSI games are excellent, but hard to find in stores
(Except Pac War, which is new).  If you order directly from SSI, it will cost
an arm and a leg.

	Hope this helps

							Bill S




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From: "david milligan" <david.milligan@canrem.com>
Subject: eob 1
Reply-To: "david milligan" <david.milligan@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:59:07 EST

Hello everyone,

I've just started out in EOB #1, and can't seem to do anything with 
the Portals. Something to do with the "stone" items? Any help would be 
vastly appreciated and would earn you special points. Thanks in 
advance. 

               David
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From: perry@tripos.com (Perry E. Simeroth)
Subject: KQ5 End game spoilers wanted
Summary: KQ5 Endgame spoilers wanted
Keywords: KQ5 SPOLERS
Organization: Tripos Associates, Inc.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:42:12 GMT

Hi,
   I'm stuck in the end game of KQ5. I'm on Mordack's island, I've explored the
labyrinth, and wondered around the castle. I've even activated the machine
in the lab.  But Mordack keeps showing up and killing me.  Please help, my
wife won't let me get KQ6 until i've finished KQ5.

E-mail replies please,
perry
perry@tripos.com
From: nupairoj@starfish.cps.msu.edu (Natawut Nupairoj)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Review needed : Cobra Mission
Date: 5 Jan 1993 20:24:09 GMT
Organization: The Dreamer Football Club
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: starfish.cps.msu.edu

I saw the ads in CGW (Nov 92).  Have anyone ever played this game ?

Natawut.
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From: chriso@cs.concordia.ca (Chris O'Regan)
Subject: Re: Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis & Monkey Island II
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:46:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.170500.4889@odin.diku.dk> pesetas@diku.dk (Dennis Risvad Nielsen) writes:
>
>Monkey Island II:
>How do I win the spitting contest? I have blown the horn to make the
>spitmaster disappear and moved the flag-poles, but I still can't spit any
>longer than the second pole. Do I have to use a special combination of
>the strange sounds before spitting?

   If you spit against the wind, it'll end up in your face.  If you
spit with the wind...Also, it may be a good idea to thicken your spit.
Head back to the bar and get a few drinks.  Hint...try to get a drink
that sorta looks the same colour as Largo's spit.  The bartender doesn't
sell anything like that, but you could probably whip something up
easily.

>Indiana Jones ant the Fate of Atlantis:
>I'm stuck in the submarine. I know hov to navigate the it and have
>'found' the air lock, but I don't know what to do next or how to enter
>the air lock. I've got the three stones back, made myself a sandwich
>and put the greasy towel near some wires where Indy says i fits (why did
>I have to do that?).

   Which path are you on?  If it's TEAM (with Sophia) you'll just have
to manuever yourself into the airlock.  It took me a while to figure
it out, but I managed to get in.  I was surprised I didn't stumble into
it the 60 minutes I spent floating around that area!


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From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Legends of Valour
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:23:59 GMT

mcmath@csb1.nlm.nih.gov (Chuck Treasure Troll McMath) writes:
>    It's not an Underworld killer.  To be fair, I only had it for 3 or 4
>days, and played it about 5 hours or so.  I just couldn't stand it, so I
>took it back and am scouring for UW2 (hasn't appeared in any of the stores
>in Northern Va yet).

I don't know what the hell they were doing, comparing the graphics to
Underworld (the original).  It doesn't even compare favorably to
Wolfenstein 3D.  Even there you had doors that actually open and close
instead of those that you just teleport through.  Particularly bad is
how it just lets you walk through people!  It's still blocky when you
get up fast, and it's still fairly slow.

That said, those of you who liked Catacombs 3D and want an RPG with a
wolf3D-like display (Not like underworld at all.. no slopes, shading,
etc.) might like this one.   Chuck's post had a bit more detail.
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From: stephane@mais.hydro.qc.ca (User Stephane)
Subject: Rex Nebular
Organization: Hydro-Quebec (DSB)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 06:17:02 GMT

Hi guys...

Can somebody tell me if i have to cross the water
stream in the village and if so how.

Thanks, Steve...
From: rpfaff@umiacs.umd.edu (Ray Pfaff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: Patriot
Date: 5 Jan 93 01:17:57 GMT
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

I bought Patriot two days ago, but I haven't ahd time to do much other
than try to run the tutorial.  If the manual is as badly written as
the tutorial, it's going to be very hard to play. I set up the inital
coditions and ran it, but I had no clue what was going on once the 
game started.
Be forwarned, rumor has it that this game was beta tested for one 
week only.  Given that they are offering a "free upgrade" if you send
in your registration, I believe it!
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From: art48006@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN YEE MEI)
Subject: Question: Star Trek 5  The Final Frontier
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:17:38 GMT


I'm new to this - posting and using this editor - so please bear with
me.  I have just received the game Star Trek 5: the Final Frontier as a
gift but have absloutely no idea how to get started.  Any help will be
greatly appreciated.

I tried asking Sulu to plot course and he replied that a course to Sha
Ka Ree had been plotted.  Then I issued the command 'Warp Speed' and he
replied that we were proceeding at Warp Seven.  There is this mediocre
warp effect that takes place and then nothing happens.  Am I doing
something wrong?

As far as I can tell, it doesn't look like a really great game and I
don't even know if there is a Save command/option despite having read
the manual that came with the game.

"It is not logical" 
	-- Spock

If anybody has any suggestions, you can e-mail art48006@nusunix3.nus.sg

Thanks a lot.

Live long and prosper,
Pamela (aka T'Pam)

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From: kaikuh@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Kai Kuhlmeyer)
Subject: Re: Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis & Monkey Island II
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:01:58 GMT

pesetas@diku.dk (Dennis Risvad Nielsen) writes:


>Monkey Island II:
>How do I win the spitting contest? I have blown the horn to make the
>spitmaster disappear and moved the flag-poles, but I still can't spit any
>longer than the second pole. Do I have to use a special combination of
>the strange sounds before spitting?
>
>Indiana Jones ant the Fate of Atlantis:
>I'm stuck in the submarine. I know hov to navigate the it and have
>'found' the air lock, but I don't know what to do next or how to enter
>the air lock. I've got the three stones back, made myself a sandwich
>and put the greasy towel near some wires where Indy says i fits (why did
>I have to do that?).
>
>Thanks in advance.

Monkey Island II:
Try to get some drinks of the bar and mix them...
A special combination of the strange sounds before spitting is not
necessary, I think.

Indy IV:
If you know how to navigate the submarine, just try to get it to the
air lock. I had to try a while until I noticed that you can get into
the air lock *backwards*. (Perhaps this is not the only possibility ??)

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From: makovsky@scsuc.ctstateu.edu (MAKOFSKY,STEVEN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: UW2 Question: After the Keep
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:08:00 GMT
Organization: Southern Connecticut State University - Computer Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Alert! Spoilers!






















Ok. Just finished the Keep you get to by the gem on level 5. Got the black
stone key, and serveral other items. Killed the lizard, got the cornicopia (sp?)
. Anyways. NOW WHAT? Cant seem to find a way downstairs from there. I saw
someone mention a troll on level 4 through the lava, but no such luck, cant
pass through it. HelP!
From: tozz@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Bob Tausworthe)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:43:44 GMT
Subject: Wiz7: New City Query (*SPOILERS*)
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games

Okay, I finally bought Wiz7 (I couldn't wait for Underworld II any longer)
and am relatively pleased with it. The data entry system is somewhat crude
and cumbersome, but it has some interesting features too.

Anyway, I finally got enough EP to battle the Rats and get to the Gates
of New City, but the Guard asks me what my business is and won't let me
in until I tell him. Well, what is my business??????

I thought maybe Rasputin would have the information but I couldn't get
him to talk to my diplomat, oh well.

Outright spoilers welcome. I have a long way to go in this game and this
hurdle is a small one.

thanks in advance

		      tozz@cup.hp.com
From: frank@cs.yorku.ca (Frank Pikelner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Where is Galactix 1.3?
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:08:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: yetti.1620
Distribution: world
Organization: York University, Dept. of Computer Science


AS the article says, I need the FTP site, also what is the current version of
Wolf 3-D?

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From: O1TCD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU
Subject: Re: Quest for Glory - Spoiler
Organization: The University of Akron
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:20:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.233115.4750@choate.edu>
drizzt@spock.uucp (Neela Jacques) writes:
 
>
>Is there someone who can either send me a walkthrough or helpme get past
>ME. I have the VGA version.
>--
   I was stuck on this for a while too. What you have to do is
go through the first doorway on your left. This will bring you
out (crawling) through the small door on your right. Next enter
the first door on your right - this will bring you to the elevated
opening on your left. Pull the chain (this will open the door at the
upper right hand side of the screen. Turn around and go back through
so that you come out again at the first door on the right. Walk up
through the now open door - this will bring you out of the upper left
hand doorway. Now, while standing half in the doorway, click the hand
cursor on the picture of a door on the back wall - then quickly walk
left so that it doesn't fall on you. After it falls, go through the
door which is now revealed.
 
 
 
p.s. Hope you have a certain something you need in the next room !
 
CHRIS DICKENS                    O1TCD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU
COMPUTER OPERATIONS
UNIVERSITY OF AKRON
From: beaurepa@petri (BEAUREPAIRE olivier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Game Director Wanted  via e-mail
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:11:03 GMT
Organization: University of Grenoble (France)

'm desperatly looking for the 'game director' which allows u to use all these
hints given in this newsgroup, but have no access to an ftp site.

Could somebody please send it to mme via mail ?

Thanks in advance.

    
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From: paslll@next02wor.wam.umd.edu (Paul  Sabourin)
Subject: Game (Civ) for sale/trade, plus WANTED: FPSFB
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:12:02 GMT



	The header pretty much says it all.  I've got a copy of Civilization  
that I am looking to unload, and am looking for trade/buy offers.  The  
*optimal* offer would be a trade for Front Page Sports Football, but since I am  
a realist, I'm open to just about any other trade offer (no adventure/RPGs,  
please).  Beyond that, if you wish to just plain old *buy* the thing, that's  
okay too.

	I am looking to buy a copy of Front Page Sports Football no matter  
what; any kindred spirits out there willing to sell?

	Just let me know,

Paul Sabourin.
From: x90robot@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: Street Fighter II Released ???
Date: 12 Jan 93 00:09:12 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1993Jan8.110323.5157@rdg.dec.com>, hilton@leechs.lzo.dec.com (Greg Hilton) writes:
> 
> I heard that it is being released on Jan 18th 
> 
> 
> Greg

Holly macaroll ...

What the source said ?
Will it be bye Capcom ?

Rudy.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: fingon@pcuf.fi (Markus Stenberg)
Subject: HELP req'ed w/ Legend of Valour
Organization: The PC-users of Finland
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:34:14 GMT

Is there any kind of way one can get that 'portal power'? And
I haven't found some of the guilds either. And acquiring of greater
than second rank in guild has been impossible so far too. For example:
In freya's guild, I need that portal power to get to 2nd.
In set's, 3rd mission was quite impossible <can't remember just now>.
In one of arms guilds, 1st <password:blueboar> was that hard that I
didn't accomplish it.
 
And from where one can get weapons / armor / .. after beginning? And
magic .. ? I simply hate this game, and I'm quite sorry for buying it.
Speed is abysmal (with 386/40mhz, short distance & little bit smaller
screen does run somehow, but ... ), and ain't there any kind of speed-
control? When I run near some wall, it runs really fast & smooth,
but when some guys appear & I get nearer for example stone circle,
it drags and drags and ...