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From: tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: CROSSWORDS Vol 2, #2
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:05:26 GMT

chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler) writes:
>CROSSWORDS Vol 2, #2 is now available.  This issue includes:
>* Interbike Trade Show Coverage
>* Mini-Pump Comparison (8 pumps tested on *real* tires)
>* Fat (700C) Tire Comparison (8 40+mm 700C tires)
>* Nike Nguba Preview
>* Reviews (Rim Rakes & Aztec brake pads, Alpinestars shoes,
>  Waveflo saddle)
Glad to hear it.  My 4 bucks are on the way, after reading the entire January
issue of Bicycling in about 5 minutes I could use some decent bike reading.
-Terry
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Sunday, 13 Dec 1992 14:57:27 MST
From: SEAN P. GARRETT <IDSPG@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: SPD Cleats - Standard vs. Multi-release

I also picked up a pair of SPDs used (8 months ago) and wear the Shimano lace-
up with a strap (m100 I think).  I had release problems this summer and tracked
 it down to new cleats (I bought the black ones).  I have had no further
problems and placed 4th in my last race, in November.  I am saving for my next
pair when these wear out.  Am curious though if anyone out there has tried the
Graffton MTB pedals, if so how do they perform?
From: ilh@lcs.mit.edu (Lee Hetherington)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: slicks for MTB commuting
Date: 14 Dec 92 10:33:34
Organization: MIT/LCS Spoken Language Systems
Distribution: rec
Reply-To: ilh@lcs.mit.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: winnie-the-pooh.ai.mit.edu

I'm considering slicks for commuting on my MTB.  My commute is about
five miles all on roads.  My current off-road tires are slow and
noisy, and I don't want to wear them out on the road.  Besides,
traction on dry pavement isn't all that great.

The options I've seen are Avocet City Slicker (1.25" and 1.5"),
Ritchey Tom's Slick (1.25" and 1.4"), and Specialized Fat Boy (1.25").

What do you think of these?  What about size?  My rims are Matrix
Singletrack Comp.  I think I probably want something bigger than 1.25"
to be more durable with curbs and potholes.  Is that reasonable or
unnecessary?  The Tom's Slick has a little bit of tread on the sides.
I've heard from a few people that tread tends to catch road debris,
causing flats.  Is this true?

Thanks in advance for any recommendations or comments!
--

                                Lee Hetherington
                                ilh@lcs.mit.edu
From: rafael@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Ralph Grundler)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Advice needed on Aspin rims
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:41:07 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

dick@ncs.com wrote:
: I can obtain some Aspin sew_up rims for $10 apiece.
: I was thinking of using them on my track bike.  Can
: anyone give me your opinion on them?

Are they Hard Anodized? :-)

Ralph Grundler
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: adr5@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Alex D Rodriguez)
Subject: Re: Ripped off?
Reply-To: adr5@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Alex D Rodriguez)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:14:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.173532.9504@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> caseb@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes:
>I'm just wondering if anyone has been burnt in
>a transaction initiated in this group.  
>Are you guys just sending money and parts to
>someone you have never met?  I would be
>inclined to trust someone advertizing here,
>but...
>
>Brian 

I recently sold a freewheel and I had no problems at all.  I mailed out the
freewheel before I got payment and I believe the other person also mailed
out his check before he got the freewheel.  We were both happy with our 
transaction.
--------------
Alex Rodriguez
Columbia University
New York City





Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich)
Subject: Re: anodization bash(was MTB: Rim recommendations needed)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:11:34 GMT

In article <BzB0Is.3xn@cs.uiuc.edu> tthiel@cs.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel) writes:

>I thought they only owned part of Kestrel.  In any event Kestrels are mostly
>still sold under the Kestrel name.  My brother was looking into a Kestrel
>about a year ago and they told him it only had a 5-year warranty.  This was
>at RRB Cycles in Chicago.

I don't doubt the experience, however, just lately Schwinn has begun to
sell Kestrel's with Schwinn Paramount labels:

The Paramount Series 9C

Warranty policy:

"SCHWINN will replace any bicycle with a structurally defective frame with
"a new bicycle of equal value ~.

"The warranty coverage has _NO_TIME_LIMIT_~."


Xref: sparky rec.bicycles.marketplace:1604 ne.forsale:5427
From: hairless@buitc.bu.edu (Bill Yu)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,ne.forsale
Subject: 1991 Fisher AL1 - mtn bike for sale
Keywords: mtb,sale,fisher
Date: 10 Dec 92 17:30:23 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Distribution: ne
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: hairless@buitc.bu.edu


 For sale:

 1991 Fisher AL1 - 15.5" (mountain bike) blue.

- frame is Gary Fisher designed supersize 7005 aluminum

- Shimano 500LX group mostly

- Shimano Deore DX 7sp thumbshifters.

- Suntour XC pro brake levers

- wheels are Shimano 500LX hubs with Araya VP-20 rims and Fisher
Fattrax 2.2" tires.

- Fisher Evolution stem/headset/fork.

- choice of pedals: Shimano Deore or Sakae lowfat with track cages

- choice of saddles: Fisher trailtail, Vetta gel mtb, or Avocet Racing I

This bicycle was recently built up after the frame was replaced so the
paint is flawless (ridden from the bike shop only). The original frame
cracked at the headtube after the first 1500 miles so Fisher replaced
it. 

asking $550.00/bo. Bike can be seen in Boston University area or 
Newton.

call Bill Yu 353-2780 x361 (days) 552-5571 (weekends/eves)





Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: todd.honan@analog.com
Subject: Re: Mountain Bike Recommendation
Originator: honan@marlin
Organization: Analog Devices, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:12:50 GMT

In article <1gek17INN83v@agate.berkeley.edu> vinnieb@sunspot.ssl.berkeley.edu (Vince Bafetti) writes:
>	Here's the question: what bike would you recommend for
>someone who:
>	1) Has no real experience riding (yet)
>	2) Wants to spend around $500 or less
>	3) Wishes to ride light trails and city commutes
>		(in other words, no real hard-core stuff at first)
>	4) Wants a sexy-looking bike
>	
>	I've looked at Trek bikes so far, like the 830 and 920. But,
>what about Giant, or Cannondale, or Specialized bikes?
>	Also, what component sets? 
>
>	Any info would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
>
>		Vince Bafetti
>		
>		vinnieb@ssl.berkeley.edu
>
>

I'm looking to get into mountain biking also with pretty much the same
requirements - except could care less about a sexy looking bike ( just
need the functionality) and it would only be used on trails (and riding
to the trails).

Thanks,
Todd


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From: karen@athena.mit.edu (Karen E. Walrath)
Subject: freewheel cogs
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:00:14 GMT

I am looking for some suntour freewheel cogs.  Specifically, a 14G
(threaded), 20B, and 24B, all in silver.  My local bike store doesn't have
these, and I've already checked with Loose Screws (out of stock).
Does anyone know of any mail-order places that might have these, or a
place that my local bike store might order from (if I managed to
convince them to do this).  Of course, if you have any to offer, 
new or slightly used cogs for a reasonable price will be considered.

I know suntour cogs are hard to get...  I've been on this "hunt" before.

Karen Walrath
MIT
From: bil@jetson.Eng.Sun.COM (William Shannon(temp))
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: incredibly  trivial request..
Date: 14 Dec 1992 19:13:41 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: bil@jetson.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: jetson

	Hi Cyclists,
  I purchased some cotton tape about a year ago that was branded  "Tessterrasso"??
from a local cycle shop.  The shop is Velomeister, Los Gatos, Cal.
		O.K.
		BIL
From: brent_silver.msidb@qm.sri.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Kevlar tires and flats
Summary: Reply to Jobst
Keywords: Kevlar, tires, flats
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:24:17 GMT
Reply-To: Brent Silver
Organization: SRI International

In article <5510008@hplred.HPL.HP.COM> jbrandt@hplred.HPL.HP.COM (Jobst Brandt)
writes:
>Brent Silver writes:
>
>> I also wonder if the Avocet Cross tires are more prone to picking
>> up junk that causes flats.  Most of my flats have involved small
>> stuff, like little wires.  I have had no snakebite flats.
>
>Your experience is contrary to mine.  I rarely get a flat from
>anything but a thorn that got swept out onto the pavement or some
>glass on a rainy day when glass cannot be distinguished from the
>pavement because it is merely another asperity in the road surface.
>That there are these differences in flat frequency indicates to me
>that there is probably a distribution in this respect and that you
>are possibly on the short end of MTBF.
(material deleted)
>The best advice I can offer is that watching theroad is the 
>most important precaution.  Keep your eye on the road.
>jobst_brandt@hplabs.hp.com

Thanks for the input, Jobst.  Trouble is that most of my flats come
from stuff that even you would not see on the road, I suspect.  My 
last few flats have been from small wires that were difficult to see
from 12", let alone 12'. Also, about half my riding now is in the dark.  

There has to be a better solution than to tell bikers to keep their 
eyes on the road. I wish the answer were Kevlar, but you have 
previously said you didn't like that material for tires.  Is there 
no way to build bike tires so that flats are as rare as they are for 
car tires?  (Yes, I would accept thicker treads - I thought I had 
with the Avocet Cross tires.)

Brent
From: border@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Ryan A. Border)
Subject: Re: slicks for MTB commuting
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 17:46:12 GMT
Distribution: rec

ilh@lcs.mit.edu (Lee Hetherington) writes:

>I'm considering slicks for commuting on my MTB.  

I think you will be happy with this decision.  The slick tires will
make a tremendous improvement in your bikes on-road performance.

>The options I've seen are Avocet City Slicker (1.25" and 1.5"),
>Ritchey Tom's Slick (1.25" and 1.4"), and Specialized Fat Boy (1.25").

I've used both the 1.25" Fat Boy's and 1.5" Avocets.  I've been happy 
with both, and haven't noticed much difference in performance.  Both seem
durable and ride nicely.

>What do you think of these?  What about size?  My rims are Matrix
>Singletrack Comp.  I think I probably want something bigger than 1.25"
>to be more durable with curbs and potholes.

Unless you're really going to be smacking curbs and potholes, any of
these tires should offer plenty of protection.  One nice thing about the
smaller tires is that they can be pumped up to higher pressures; which
yields lower rolling resistance.

Another tire to consider is the Avocet Cross (inverted tread).  They roll
almost as good as a slick, and the thick rubber (of the inverted tread)
offers a *lot* of flat protection.  But, they do carry a pretty significant
weight penalty.

I recently put some Cheng-Shin (or something close to that) tires on my
beater ATB for commuting.  They're almost slick, Kevlar belted, and weigh
a ton- but, they were only $8 from Nashbar.  Pretty good price/performance :-).
_______________________________________________________________________________
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* Cray Research Inc., On Site Applications Analyst 415-604-4633  o__ o__      *
* Numerical Aerodynamic Simulator, NASA Ames Research Center    _.>/-.>/'_    *
* Never trust someone who can count to 1023 on their fingers.  ( ) \---\(*)...*
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: pardo@cs.washington.edu (David Keppel)
Subject: Re: Biopace Chainrings for sale $15
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 23:52:30 GMT

vannuysd@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
>[I'm selling bioplace chainrings for $15]

Shop before you buy: a local store (Elliot Bay Greenlake) is selling
BioXxxx rings at 2/$1.

	;-D on  ( Running rings around the competition )  Pardo
From: ehouse@Apple.COM (Eric House)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Velo-Lux address and phone number (bicycle light)
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:59:45 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <1639@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> gnome@pd.org (Mike Mitten) writes:
>A while ago, I posted about how much I love my Velo-Lux head- and tail-
>light setup on my bicycle.  Someone emailed me for their address, but I
>didn't have it handy, and the email message has long since fed the bit
>bucket.  This weekend I found the information I had on Velo-Lux, so
>here it is:
>
>	Velo-Lux Corporation
>	801 Northport Drive
>	Suite #1
>	West Sacramento, CA  95691  USA
>	(916) 373-1049
>	(800) 552-1523
>

Velo-Lux went out of business nearly a year ago.  It's a damn shame too,
and I hope the person who wanted this address is able to find one sitting
around in the back of a shop somewhere.  For my requirements no other light
comes close to being as good as my Velo-Lux.  I only wish there had been
enough of us to keep him going.
-- 
****************************************************************************
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RAAM in '93?		   	 me, so I can share only mine with you"
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: ae505@yfn.ysu.edu (Frank Krygowski)
Subject: Re: Mountain Bike Recommendation
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 05:11:11 GMT


About Giant bikes - I don't have any first hand experience (aside
from brief test rides) but Giants are selling like hotcakes to 
our club members... particularly the carbon fiber road bikes.
Probably 12 of them bought this season, based on word-of-mouth
approval.  Of course, the shop owner couldn't be happier...

It does seem that for equivalent quality, Giants are less expensive
than other brands - sometimes hundreds of dollars less.

(btw, I ride Cannondale - touring frame - on road, and an old 
Ross off road.)     - Frank Krygowski  ae505@yfn.ysu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: scriven@ecf.toronto.edu (SCRIVEN ADAM)
Subject: Bike for Sale
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:41:27 GMT

LOOKING FOR A FULLY SUSPENDED MOUNTAIN BIKE ?

Framset: Offroad Proflex 950 (14" collar extended to 16") + Custom Paint Job
Fork: Rock Shox MAG 20 + ATI Shock Boots + Brodie Rock Rooster (purple)
Brake Levers: Dia-Compe SS-5
Brake Pads: Scott Mathauser
Brakeset: Dia-Compe 986
Grips: ODI Endless (2 sets)
Handlebar: Scott AT-4 Pro
Headset: YST
Stem: Girvin Flexstem

Bottom Bracket: Shimano Deore XT
Chain: Sedis Sport ATB
Crankset: Shimano Deore XT
Deraillers: Front: Suntour XC Pro
	    Rear: Shimano Deore XT
Cassette: Shimano HG 70 (12-28)
Pedals: Shimano SPD PD-737
Shifters: Shimano Deore II Thumbshiters

Hubs: Shimano Deore XT (28 Front-32 Rear)
Rims: Ritchey Vantage Comp
Spokes: DT Swiss DB (15/16 Front-14/15 Rear)
Tires: Smoke 2.1" + Ground Control Extreme 2.5"

Cages: Profile Kage (2)
Quick Release Set: Oddessey (purple)
Saddle: Selle Italia Turbo

Contact: Kevin Chong @ 416-222-0853
	       chongk@ecf.utoronto.ca or chongk@ecf.toronto.edu

Price: $1800.00 + any shipping and handling


Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: caseb@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Ripped off?
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:35:32 EST

I'm just wondering if anyone has been burnt in
a transaction initiated in this group.  
Are you guys just sending money and parts to
someone you have never met?  I would be
inclined to trust someone advertizing here,
but...

Brian 
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: jsweeney@geppetto.encore.com (Joe Sweeney)
Subject: aero bars
Keywords: recommendations
Organization: Encore Computer Corp.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:18:44 GMT

I'm in the market for aero bars and would like
recommendations.

I'm considering AirStryke (sp?) but also like 
simple design of Scott's bars.

Thanks,
Joe


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misunderstood me.  If you differ with me, that's just fine and your response
is welcome.  ****Please place :-) at all locations you feel necessary.****
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: pardo@cs.washington.edu (David Keppel)
Subject: Wanted: 6-speed indexed shift levers
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 00:25:28 GMT

I have two bikes w/ 6-speed friction and I'd like to try indexed.  I
would like to buy a set each of Shimano and SunTour and just give it a
try and see if I can fudge it with the existing derailleurs.  So if
you've got some sets leftover from your upgrade and will sell them
cheap, let me know.

		;-D on  ( Index finger )  Pardo
From: bil@jetson.Eng.Sun.COM (William Shannon(temp))
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Helmet gift advice wanted
Date: 18 Dec 1992 19:58:59 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: bil@jetson.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: jetson

	A friend of mine just broke the strap retainer on his Giro Hammerhead SC
  and Giro told him to go to any store that sold Giro helmets and have them call
  Giro, they gave him a new helmet on the spot NO CHARGE.
	O.K.
	BIL

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: scheng@bcarh886.bnr.ca (Spencer Cheng)
Subject: Experiences with Mavic components?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 14:39:26 GMT

Hi Folks,

I am looking for information on the Mavic road groupo that is
currently available by mail order from Colorado Cyclist. I would like
to hear people's experience with them. I will summarize if there is
enough interest.

In particular, I am interested in the following

1) How well does the index shifting works with 7 speed freewheel and 8
   speed cassettes? 

2) How good are the hubs (571 and 501)?

3) The crankset is supposedly convertible into a triple (which is what
   I want). How easy and how expensive is that process?

4) Where do I find detailed info on the groupo? Is there a number or
   address for Mavic where I can get some more info?

5) If I do convert the crank to a triple, will I need a new rear and
   front derailleur? Does Mavic make wider range rear and front derailleurs?

6) I found a review in Buycycling from about 2 years ago which implied
   that Mavic makes bits which are durable and easy to service. How
   true is that in reality? How easy is it to get parts after a few
   years with existing Mavic bits?

7) How heavy is the Mavic road groupo relative to ( Record | Superbe
   Pro | Dura-ace )? What are the actual weight of the Mavic parts? I'll
   be putting these on a light frame so I am interested though not
   fanatical about weight.

8) And to cover everything else, any additional thoughts/opinions on
   Mavic other than about the rims? :)

Thanks
Spencer
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk)
Subject: Club prices?
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 01:44:47 GMT

Recently someone posted about a new bike that his club was selling at a
good price because the guy that ordered it didn't want it ...

What kind of prices do these clubs get?  What does it take to join?
Is membership (and buying priviledges) open to riders in other states?


-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: ezag637@chpc.utexas.edu (Steve Manifold)
Subject: Re: Kevlar tires and flats
Summary: Kevlar stiffness
Organization: The University of Texas System CHPC
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 15:55:21 GMT

In article <truesdel-141292201109@mac_dungeon.ics.uci.edu>, truesdel@ics.uci.edu (Scott Truesdell) writes:

Stuff deleted
> 
> Kevlar is essentially a substitute for steel. It is a very stiff material
> and in order to flex it needs to be in the form of fine strands. These
> strands can be unidirectional or woven in a variety of patterns, the most
> common being a fairly thick roving similar to what you may have seen on
> carbon fiber bikes or "Nuke Proof" brand mountain bike components. In this
> form Kevlar is very effective in stopping blunt objects (like bullets) but
> in the thicknesses that would make sense in bicycle tires the material can
> be easily pierced by thorns, thumbtacks, and any other high aspect-ratio
> penetrant. Kevlar belting could mitigate cuts from low aspect-ratio
> penetrants such as glass fragments.
> 
> Large soft mountain bike tires don't have much of a problem with glass --
> it's the thorns and pinch flats that get us. I can see how glass could be
> much more of a problem with thin-tread tires pumped up to over 100 psi. In
> any event, glass is easily seen and avoided--it's the tiny stuff that you
> can't see that causes most flats, right?
> 
> In this sense, if Kevlar belted tires are marketed for their
> flat-preventing properties, it sounds like a load of balogna to me. I don't
> believe for an instant that Kevlar belted tires would show significantly
> less tendency to puncture. Does anybody have evidence that proves
> otherwise? Can you really buy Kevlar belted bicycle tires?
> 

Kevlar is not really that stiff, at least compared to steel.  Kevlar 49 fibers
have a modulus of about 20 msi, compared to 30 msi for steel.  Where Kevlar 
does excel over steel is in *specific stiffness*, i.e. stiffness divided by
weight.  The specific stiffness of Kevlar 49 (fibers only) is roughly four timesgreater than steel.

My experience with Kevlar belted sewups is they have no appreciable puncture
resistance compared to other conventional sewups, for the very reasons you
state above, IMHO.  I have found that frequency of punctures with expensive 
sewups is drastically lower than with cheap sewups, making them much more
cost-effective.  This is due, I believe, to the increased thread count of 
casings found in good quality sewups.

Steve Manifold

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From: dhm1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DANIEL HILL MCCAULEY)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: FRAME RECOMMENDATIONS NEEDED!!!!
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:18:23 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


    I am planning on purchasing a new frame, but I don't really know much
    about frames while looking (i.e. geometry, tubing types, etc...)
    Could someone please tell me what I am looking for:

        I am planning on using this frame for my race bike. I am not
        interested in composites.  Looking in price range of 600-800 dollars.


        Also, could you explain how geometry of frame affects riding etc...

                                        THANKS!!!

                                                    -Dan


        
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