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From: teri@sdd.hp.com (Teri Tracey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Jasmine
Date: 27 Jan 1993 16:24:15 -0800
Organization: Hell's Little Breakfast Nook
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In article <1993Jan21.002041.82273@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> f012@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu writes:
>>>If is saw "Jasmine" in real life, she'd be so ugly I don't even want to
>>>think about it.
>>
>> Just because
>>it's not a "small between the brows" anglo-saxon nose, it's ugly?
>>
>Naah...her nose has nothing to do with her nationality.  That nose of hers is
>just plain screwed up...sorry.  

Screwed up in what way, exactly?  

>Show me any human, Caucasiod, Mongoloid, or
>Negroid with a nose like that that wasn't involved in a horrible accident
>and/or some sort of malpractice and I'll be VERY surprised....

To me, who is Japanese, it looks somewhat Japanese--small, rounded at the 
tip, and not spread at the nostrils.  Perhaps it doesn't match the storyline
exactly, but perhaps it's outside of *your* everyday experience too.

Best regards,

Teri Tracey...................San Diego, CA....................teri@sdd.hp.com  

                 "I've always wanted to be somebody, but now
                  I see I should have been more specific."     - Lily Tomlin
From: riouxp@rs6401.ecs.rpi.edu (Peter Joseph Rioux)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: The Little Mermaid Series Question
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:55:37 GMT
Reply-To: riouxp@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.

for the last time.. it's alana!!!!! 

thank you and back to your regularly scheduled news....:)

SQUID
(yes i know my writing (typing) is hard to read but at least i know how to spell)
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From: tad@Ingres.COM (Tom Drynda)
Subject: Re: Lady in 101 Dalmatians
Followup-To: rec.arts.disney
Reply-To: tad@Ingres.COM (Tom Drynda)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 28 Jan 93 11:06:16 GMT

Richard F. Dutt writes:
| I rewatched 101 Dalmatians this weekend and noticed something.
| During the twilight bark they show a pet store window and I swear
| Lady from Lady and the Tramp is in the window.  As I've never
| seen Lady and the Tramp, I wasn't sure (although I have seen
| pictures of her.  Can anyone confirm or deny?  Also, is her name
| Lady in the movie?  It sounds stupid of me to call her Lady if it's
| not her name.  Just Curious.
| 

	I can confirm it. I can't remember the names of the
characters, but the ones I remember seeing are the dog (bitch
actually) that sings "He's a Tramp" in the dog pound, the Bulldog
(looks a bit like Butch in Tom 'n' Jerry), and I think Lady was
in there too. 

	By the way, if Lady *was* in the pet shop window, was
she wearing her collar ?

	Wait a minute !! What do you mean you've never seen Lady
and the Tramp ?!?!?!? Get a life ! :-)

	Tom

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From: emru@CAM.ORG (Emru Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: my aladdin review....
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:31:42 GMT
Organization: MegaCorp Central Complex

gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:


> Just to add to the fire - I thought Aladdin was the worst Disney Animated film
>in some time. Perhaps I was just sick of animated Robin Williams after
>Ferngully, or perhaps the Robin William's frantic comedy style is just
>getting old for me - I don't know - but I know my kids weren't as excited about
>it as they were TLM or BatB and I was really sick of it after about 20
>minutes. It is not a horrible film by any means - just not as good in
>my opinion as many of the reviews I've seen -  I had to agree with our local
>reviewer who said something like "not as good as Disney fanatics will have
>you believe, but a quality animated film none the less". 

Interesting.  I'm not a Disney fanatic, and I think that's why I enjoyed
Aladdin.

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From: lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: What's with the HOSTILITY? (My first flame-war!)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 02:45:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Phase, I don't mean to criticize, but don't you think that "disney
FAGS" is perhaps a little uncalled for, not to mention offensive to
at least a few people?  If you want to protest the way someone responds
to your posts, you really should be more civilized about it.  As it is
it's hard to respect the opinion of someone who posts in such an 
antagonistic and provoking manner.  I know that some of the people have
been unduly harsh about your posts.  Nevertheless, you aren't helping
yourself by your own posts.  

Everyone in general, when posting, keep these thoughts in mind:
"Two wrongs don't make a right"
"If you can't say something nice, don't say nothin' at all."
"Do unto others as you would have others do unto you."

Not that I mean to sound like a goody-two-shoes, but really, we're all
adults here.  We can be civil to each other, even when voicing opposing
points of view.  It will make this newsgroup a much nicer place to visit,
and improve the property values of those of us who live here.  Thank you
all for allowing me my soapbox.  
Linda
-- 
"This is my quest, to follow that star, no matter how hopeless, no matter how
far!"------The Impossible Dream, "Man of La Mancha"
"The Lord lives!  Praise be to my Rock!  Exalted be God my Savior!"
					------Psalms 18:46
From: mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu (Denise "ABU" Lockner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Aladdin Review
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:21:58 GMT
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Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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In article <1jus56INN2ok@mozz.unh.edu> ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink) writes:
>>>  Pot.  Kettle.  Black.
>>>
>>> - snopes
>>>
>>> ObligatoryDisneyFact:  Disney has produced three of the most frequently
>>> misspelled movie titles in film history: "Pinnochio", "Alladin", and
>>>                                                       ^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>Should we be ordering a set of black pots and kettles for you TOO, snopes??
>>
>>Couldn't resist.
>
>Ha.  Spelling wars.  Fun.  No, Denise, I think you're the one to lose this
>time.  Snopes was deliberately misspelling the movies to show *how* they
>get misspelled.  What you *didn't* notice, was that the other two movies
>(Pinnocchio and 101 Dalmatians) were also intentionally misspelled
  ^^^^^^^^^^
>(Pinnochio and 101 Dalmations).
> ^^^^^^^^^^
>So one can conclude that it is actually YOU who don't know how to spell????
>-- 
>*****  The Rink  *****   Programming is an art form that fights back.


Perhaps. But you got 2 chances to spell "Pinocchio", and got 'em BOTH
wrong! So there. I win I win I win I win I win. :)

(spelling courtesy of Dave Smith, Disney archivist)

-Denise (3rd grade spelling bee champ, ahem ahem)
*******
"If you can't say something nice...don't say nothin' at all." -THUMPER

"What mighty contests rise from trivial things." -Alexander Pope
From: jrowliso@ub.d.umn.edu (Jon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Little Mermaid: Whale of a tail
Date: 25 Jan 93 12:32:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: ub.1k20r7INN9ki
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
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I have been faithfully recording LTM the series on hi-fi every week.
Recently while looking at the episode list I have noticed that there was an
original (pilot?) episode called 'Whale of a Tail".  Is there some reason
this episode name in the list is not in ALL CAPS like the others?  I thought
I had all of the episodes, but the first one broadcast here in my city was
"The Great Sebasian".

Would anyone with this episode (Whale of a Tail) on hi-fi [or mono if nobody
has it in hi-fi] be cool enough to send it to me?  Of course I'll pay
postage, cost of the blank tape, and a couple bucks for your trouble.

			- just tryin' to build an archive...
					jrowliso@ub.d.umn.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: my aladdin review....
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 17:04:06 GMT

In article <rbp3a-d@rpi.edu> kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.220522.26836@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
>>In article <30407@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>>>
>>>It is not a horrible film by any means - just not as good in
>>>my opinion as many of the reviews I've seen -  I had to agree with our local
>>>reviewer who said something like "not as good as Disney fanatics will have
>>>you believe, but a quality animated film none the less". 
>>
>>The majority vote is against you and your kids, for what that's worth.
>>"Aladdin" just went up to $147 million gross, outdoing the previous best
>>figure for an animated film in first release.  ("Beauty and the Beast",
>>at $144 million, I believe.)  "Aladdin" made $7 million last weekend alone,
>>making it the top grossing film of the week.  It could very easily end
>>up grossing in excess of $200 million in the U.S. and Canada alone.  That's 
>>bad news for those who didn't like it, as Disney will regard it as a crystal-
>>clear signal that they did something right, and would be well advised to do it
>>again.
>
>Contrary to your context, blockbuster films are not neccesarily 
>great.  Top Gun, Beverly Hills Cop II, and Police Academy are good 
>examples.  Aladdin is certainly a better film, it is often unfocused 
>and commercialized.  I thought it was a good film, but was below my 
>expectation.

You are reading more into what I wrote than what I put there.  I said nothing
whatsoever about the quality of the films, merely their popularity.  "Aladdin"
appears to be a much more popular film than "Beauty and the Beast".  Maybe
if you polled everyone who saw both films, the poll would favor "Beauty
and the Beast", but either more people go back to see "Aladdin" again, anyway, 
or something about "Aladdin" draws lots of people who didn't go to see "Beauty 
and the Beast".  Based on that fact, one would expect the people at Disney to 
notice "Aladdin's" popularity and attempt to tap into the same qualities that 
made it popular.  One can argue, based on one's opinion of the quality of 
"Aladdin", whether this is a good thing or not.  Note that, regardless of 
your opinion of "Top Gun", "Beverly Hills Cop II", or "Police Academy", they 
had strong influences on what films were made and how they were made in the
years following their releases.  The same will likely be true of "Aladdin".

-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
From: rivers@mdnite.enet.dec.com (Kim Rivers)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: The Black Cauldron
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:51:47 GMT
Reply-To: rivers@mdnite.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation



This movie, like "The Fox and the Hound", "The Aristocats" and probably at
least one other feature I can't recall right now ("Oliver and Co.?") hasn't
been released to video.  Too bad, because I saw it in the theatre and as dim
memory recalls, I rather liked it.  Then again, I liked the Fox and the Hound,
too.


--
Dr. Midnight
alias Kim Rivers (rivers@mdnite.enet.dec.com)

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+     represent those of my employer, Digital Equipment Corporation        +
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From: dsblack@iastate.edu (Vilkata TDK)
Subject: Re: Where can I find Disneys catalog?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:15:09 GMT

I have a catalog of catalogs.  Write to:

Publisher Inquiry Services
951 Broken Sound Parkway NW
Building 190
PO Box 5057
Boca Raton, FL 33431-0857

and either request a catalog or as for catalog #912 and include $2
($1 for the catalog and $1 processing fee) or request the catalog of catalogs,
which won't give you the Disney one, but will give you a listing.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: jwidor@melpar (Jeff Widor)
Subject: Re: my aladdin review....
Organization: E-Systems, Melpar Division
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:59:06 GMT

Phase, I respect your opinion of the film Alladin, but I must admit,
your spelling skills are severely lacking.  finninancially?
No offense intended, just constructive criticism.


================================================================================
Jeff Widor
aka. Captain Midnight (For those of you who work with me, DON'T ASK!)
jwidor@melpar.esys.com
E-Systems Inc., Melpar Division		(703)560-5000

Opinions expressed are my own and not my employers'.
From: vkhare@misdev.mis.pyramid.com (Vilas Khare)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Looking for Disney cassettes in a VHS/PAL format
Date: 25 Jan 93 02:09:23 GMT
Distribution: usa


Does anyone know of any retail or mail order shops in the U.S. who
sell video cassettes of Disney's cartoons and animated films in a
VHS/PAL format (what they have in Europe).

Thanks in advance.

Vilas
vkhare@pyramid.com
From: atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: 8mm Tapes
Date: 28 Jan 93 03:30:19 GMT
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Sean Alan Squier (ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu) wrote:
> In article <849.561.uupcb@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us> brian.colter@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us (Brian Colter)  writes:
> >In message <shorts.727577328@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> from RAFI LEVAVY
> >
> >There is NO WAY you could ever play an 8mm tape on a VHS player (or
> >vice-versa).  You can transfer 8mm to VHS (and back again) as all NTSC
> >Video Recorders produce a compatible signal.
> 
> I think I need to disagree here.  When I was in FLA, a friend had
> videotaped his trip down on 8mm, so when we went to watch it, he stuck
> the smaller tape into a larger case which stretched the tape into VHS
> size.  I am almost certain it was 8mm, unless they make smaller VHS
> tapes on some cameras (it was a Panasonic).  I have a SONY 8mm
> handicam now but I have never had occasion to transfer anything to
> VHS.  I also do not have the adapter I wrote about.  Hmm..this may
> take some research.

Sean, I think what your friend had was a VHS-C camera.  It uses VHS
tape stock, so it's basically playing using a smaller cassette with
the same size magnetic tape.  These can be placed into an adapter
the size of a normal VHS tape.  8mm tapes are incompatible with VHS.
--
	** Ala"ddi"n **

	"There will be riches and magical places
	 A private oasis out there in the sands..."
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From: IEBF94S@tjuvm.tju.edu (Craig Doerrmann)
Subject: Re: Foreshadowing
Organization: Thomas Jefferson University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:22:30 GMT

In article <C1JopE.GIt@unix.amherst.edu>
atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin) writes:
>
>Interesting idea, but you forgot about 'daring sword fights'.  Think about
>this though... a prince in disguise (i.e. the Beast...)
>--
>        ** Ala"ddi"n **
Was there a 'daring sword fight' in Sleeping Beauty?  It's been so long,
I can't remember.
 
See ya,
Craig Doerrmann
Internet: iebf94s@tjuvm.tju.edu   Bitnet: iebf94s@tjuvm
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: collins_w@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Are Mermaids Fish?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:36:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.022125.20918@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal) writes:
> In <1993Jan19.085046.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> collins_w@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:
> 
>>   Some people said that mermaids are fish, and others said that mermaids
>>are mammals (and others said that they are fiction :-) ). Well, they are
>>both right. Mermaids are half woman (mammal), and half fish. According to
> So are they warm or cold-blooded?
   Disney's TLM series "CHARMED" almost implied that they are warm-
blooded. Flounder comments that it is getting cold and Ariel points
out that he is a fish (so he shouldn't be cold), as if she should feel
the cold (it is very vague).

> Do they have lungs or gills?  I don't
   I have never seen any gills on a mermaid. I have also seen scenes
where the mermaid is out of breath (breathing through her mouth).

> like this fish thingy; like howcome human pheromones exuding from Eric
> got the reaction they did with a FISH?  I'm not convinced.
   She's only HALF fish. And I haven't seen this scene. Still waiting
for my copy. The anticipation! :-)

   Silly question: Do mermaids smell fishy?


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From: palmesap@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Allan P Palmes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Paige O'Hara
Date: 26 Jan 1993 03:20:11 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: palmesap@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Allan P Palmes)
NNTP-Posting-Host: g310a6.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <43930@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)  
writes:
> In article <C19qJJ.EAH@unix.amherst.edu> atzachar@unix.amherst.edu  
(Aladdin) writes:
> >RSL103@psuvm.psu.edu wrote:
> >> Anybody know what Paige O'Hara, the voice of Belle in "Beauty and the  
Beast"
> >> is up to these days.  I'd think she must be swamped with work offers  
by now.
> >
> >I'm not so sure about that.  In the spring of last year, O'Hara was  
doing a
> >small show in L.A. (not a musical) which had a brief run although I  
hear
> >that she was great.  I saw her perform at the Hollywood Bowl last July  
with
> >Richard White, Lea Salonga, and Peabo Bryson (they were doing songs  
primarily
> >from "The King and I").  I certainly wouldn't worry about her income  
though.
> 
> Have you heard anything new about the proposed Broadway Beauty and
> the Beast?  It'd be nice if Paige O'Hara could play Belle--she looks
> a little like her.  And she sounds a little like her, too! :-)
> 
> 
> - Robert Cook
> 
> 
I've seen her on the Cerebral Palsy Marathon this weekend (1/23 to 1/24).

Allan Palmes
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
From: adf1@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Annual passport information
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:37:40 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton



Can anyone give me information on the benefits of buying annual passports to
WDW?  I'm planning a trip for '94 and I'm already a stockholder and have a
Gold Card.  I'm looking for the best deal for an 8 day stay at the Polynesian
and a pass for the duration.  I read a post on the net a while back about
getting 50% off on accommodations.  Please e-mail with any information.

Thanks.
Carole Francis
From: lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Just Saw Alladin...
Date: 21 Jan 1993 06:46:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


I don't know what the writing says, but for the second one, the
Genie says "You've got a list that's three miles long, no doubt."
I have to admit, I thought that was pretty cool, that the writing
would actually look Arabic instead of the illegible meaningless
scribble that doesn't look like anything that you often get in 
animation.  I'd be interested in knowing if it says anything too.
Linda
P.S.  I've only seen Aladdin four times, but on a college budget,
that's pretty good, I think.  
-- 
"This is my quest, to follow that star, no matter how hopeless, no matter how
far!"------The Impossible Dream, "Man of La Mancha"
"The Lord lives!  Praise be to my Rock!  Exalted be God my Savior!"
					------Psalms 18:46
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From: atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin)
Subject: Re: Aladdin and the Golden Globes
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:54:01 GMT

Linda G. Brashear (lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu) wrote:
> 
> Personally, I would have liked to see "Prince Ali" take the best
> song award, since it was by far the most entertaining song in the
> movie, IMHO.  Of course, the pretty love song is going to beat out
> the fun ones.  (Not that I didn't like Whole New World, it's just
> that Prince Ali was a riot, and Whole New World was sorta standard).
> But at least something from Aladdin took the award.  The award for
> best score is fine with me (aren't you all glad the Golden Globes
> have my approval :-)) but does anyone know what the competition was?
> Linda

Well it's about time someone posted about the Golden Globes!  Jeez!
I agree.  I was really hoping that Prince Ali would win, but... that's
the way it goes.  It is nice, however, that Tim Rice gets a little
credit... we'll see about the Oscars... They nominated 'Belle' last
year (quite unexpected), so maybe (though doubtful) Prince Ali could
snag the award.

Aladdin's competition for Best Score was Chaplin, Last of the Mohicans,
Basic Instinct, and 1492.
--
	** Ala"ddi"n **

	"There will be riches and magical places
	 A private oasis out there in the sands..."
From: rjuers@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Raymond L Juers)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Mary Popins II
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:22:16 GMT
Reply-To: rjuers@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Raymond L Juers)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


Interesting idea!  Bring the time line up about 30 years!

The children in the first movie would be grown up and have
kids of their own and new problems as well.  They would need
a nanny and Dick van Dyke (the chimney sweep (sp?)) could call
in Mary Poppins to help.  Mary would show up looking like she
hadn't aged in the last 30 years.  I think it could work!

Any comments or suggestions?