From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: Re: The European Parliament Recognized Turkish Genocide in 1984.
Date: 15 Aug 92 04:07:49 GMT





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arto@leland.Stanford.EDU (Artavazd Khachikian)

>	Mutlu ? What is the matter with you ? You are actually
>admitting that there was a reference

No wonder they named you 'Khachikian.' You have already demonstrated 
ample willingness to put your foot where your mouth is. Here are several 
steps that will help you overcome those 'absorbing' problems. After 
unsuccessful bloody uprisings in 1895 (25,000 Muslim women, children 
and elderly people were ruthlessly slaughtered by the Armenians in Zeytun) 
and 1909, the revolutionaries' chance came in 1914, when Russia went to 
war with the Ottoman Empire. Armenian genocide of the Muslims started in 
the empire, and Russian arms and even Russian uniforms appeared from hidden 
caches. Hundreds of thousands of Armenians formed themselves into guerilla 
bands and genocide squads. The largest city of southeastern Anatolia, Van, 
was captured by the Armenian genocide squads in April 1915, and the entire 
Muslim population of the city and surrounding villages were massacred. 
Indeed, an Armenian newspaper, Gochnak, reported at the time that 'only 
1,500 Turks remained in Van. The rest had been slaughtered.' Earlier, the 
Van region's leading Armenian representative in the Ottoman Parliament
had called upon Armenians 'to serve as advance units for the Russian
armies' as they invaded Anatolia. The city was held until it could be 
turned over to the invading Russian army. Throughout eastern Anatolia, 
Armenian genocide squads attacked villagers wherever they found them.

During World War I, when Ottoman forces were fighting on five fronts,
they also faced an armed uprising of Armenians. At the instigation
and with the support of Czarist Russia, Armenian genocide squads
sought to establish an Armenian state in an area that was predominantly
Turkish.

Armenian leaders carried out their previously declared intention of 
attacking the Ottoman Empire while it was engaged in war. At the outset 
they developed a plan for an Empire-wide revolt for the purpose of 
undermining the Ottoman war effort and enabling Russia to occupy the 
lands claimed by the Armenians. Starting already mid-1914, arms and 
ammunition were distributed to secret Armenian bands organized in 
villages in the Eastern part of the Empire. Soon after the war started, 
even before the Russian armies invaded Anatolia, Armenians revolted in 
the area of Van, massacring most of the Muslims in the vicinity and 
establishing their own independent state. As the Russians occupied 
Eastern Anatolia in 1914 and 1915, the excesses of the Armenian 
'genocide squads' who accompanied them were so severe that they 
had to be retired by the Russians to the rear lines to stop the 
barbarities.

Sources: (The Ottoman State, the Ministry of War), "Islam Ahalinin 
Ducar Olduklari Mezalim Hakkinda Vesaike Mustenid Malumat," (Istanbul, 1918). 
The French version: "Documents Relatifs aux Atrocites Commises par les Armeniens
sur la Population Musulmane," (Istanbul, 1919). In the Latin script: H. K.
Turkozu, ed., "Osmanli ve Sovyet Belgeleriyle Ermeni Mezalimi," (Ankara,
1982). In addition: Z. Basar, ed., "Ermenilerden Gorduklerimiz," (Ankara,
1974) and, edited by the same author, "Ermeniler Hakkinda Makaleler -
Derlemeler," (Ankara, 1978). "Askeri Tarih Belgeleri ...," Vol. 32, 83
(December 1983), document numbered 1881. "Askeri Tarih Belgeleri ....," 
Vol. 31, 81 (December 1982), document numbered 1869.

"Those who were capable of fighting were taken away at the very beginning
 with the excuse of forced labor in road construction, they were taken
 in the direction of Sarikamis and annihilated. When the Russian army
 withdrew, a part of the remaining people was destroyed in Armenian
 massacres and cruelties: they were thrown into wells, they were locked
 in houses and burned down, they were killed with bayonets and swords, in 
 places selected as butchering spots, their bellies were torn open, their lungs
 were pulled out, and girls and women were hanged by their hair after
 being subjected to every conceivable abominable act. A very small part 
 of the people who were spared these abominations far worse than the
 cruelty of the inquisition resembled living dead and were suffering
 from temporary insanity because of the dire poverty they had lived
 in and because of the frightful experiences they had been subjected to.
 Including women and children, such persons discovered so far do not
 exceed one thousand five hundred in Erzincan and thirty thousand in
 Erzurum. All the fields in Erzincan and Erzurum are untilled, everything
 that the people had has been taken away from them, and we found them
 in a destitute situation. At the present time, the people are subsisting
 on some food they obtained, impelled by starvation, from Russian storages
 left behind after their occupation of this area."

>				Arto - the Liar, the Forger, the Revisionist,
>				the Nazi etc.

Now, let's look at your rankings.

Source: Stanford J. Shaw, on Armenian collaboration with invading Russian
armies in 1914, "History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey (Volume
II: Reform, Revolution & Republic: The Rise of Modern Turkey, 1808-1975)."
(London, Cambridge University Press 1977). pp. 315-316.

"Knowing their numbers would never justify their territorial ambitions,
 Armenians looked to Russia and Europe for the fulfillment of their aims.
 Armenian treachery in this regard culminated at the beginning of the First
 World War with the decision of the revolutionary organizations to refuse
 to serve their state, the Ottoman Empire, and to assist instead other
 invading Russian armies. Their hope was their participation in the Russian
 success would be rewarded with an independent Armenian state carved out of
 Ottoman territories. Armenian political leaders, army officers, and common
 soldiers began deserting in droves."

"With the Russian invasion of eastern Anatolia in 1914 at the beginning of
 World War I, the degree of Armenian collaboration with the Ottoman's enemy
 increased drastically. Ottoman supply lines were cut by guerilla attacks,
 Armenian revolutionaries armed Armenian civil populations, who in turn
 massacred the Muslim population of the province of Van in anticipation of
 expected arrival of the invading Russian armies."

Source: "World Alive, A Personal Story" by Robert Dunn. Crown Publishers, 
Inc., New York (1952), p. 361 (fourth paragraph).

"Corpses came next, the first a pretty child with straight black hair, large
 eyes. She looked about twelve years old. She lay in some stubble where meal
 lay scattered from the sack she'd been toting. The bayonet had gone through
 her back, I judged, for blood around was scant. Between the breasts one clot,
 too small for a bullet wound, crusted her homespun dress.

 The next was a boy of ten or less, in rawhide jacket and knee-pants. He lay
 face down in the path by several huts. One arm reached out to the pewter 
 bowl he'd carried, now upset upon its dough. Steel had jabbed just below
 his neck, into the spine. 

 There were grownups, too, I saw as I led the sorrel around. Djul was empty
 of the living till I looked up to see beside me Dro's German-speaking colonel.
 He said all Tartars who had not escaped were dead."

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)