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From: merritt@macro.bu.edu (Sean Merritt)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Cambridge Brewing Company (Flame)
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:32:35 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department
In-reply-to: michael@monitor.com's message of 7 Oct 92 14:19:02 GMT

In article <Bvr93r.259@monitor.com> michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson) writes:


#   In article <1992Oct7.021100.29344@eff.org> peterco@eff.org (Peter  
#   Cohen) writes:
#   > 

#   Very interesting.

#   (p.s. CBC is great! Just went the other night, food seems to have  
#   improved since last time I went, Charles River Porter was excellent.)

I didn't catch the flame referred to. I like the CBC. Did you try
the Belgian Ale(tripel) ? Great stuff. Does anyone know if they
have a batch of oktoberfest?

As I noted before the wit and cynicism of John Adams (beertender extrodinary)
is worth the trip.

All CBC kudos aside, The Boston Beer Works has better food and IMHO
better beer. This batch of the the Back Bay India Pale is killer.
The oatmeal stout gets better with every batch. Try the pumpkin ale
although serious beer people may shun it. The oktoberfest is 
just about ready. Baseball is over so the drunk Sox fans asking
for Bud and Lite are history. If you haven't tried it yet and
you are a beer person you owe it to yourself to go.


Has anyone tried John Harvards first batch yet? I went
when they still had the stale Harpoon wannabe beers.



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From: gjc@mitech.com (George J. Carrette)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Opinions about Red Lobster
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:26:18 GMT
Organization: Mitech Corporation, Concord MA

In article <1900@sousa.ltn.dec.com>, pimentel@earrth.enet.dec.com (John Pimentel) writes:
> ... while the bad opinions simply stated not to go there.
> No reason just don't.  

This is a very important point. The last time somebody asked about a
Red Lobster, maybe 6 months to a year ago, the same vapid-flame negativity
tainted with elitist twang was exhibited.

Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Cambridge Brewery (ReFlame)
Organization: I.E.C.C.
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:57:52 EDT (Fri)
From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine)

>I have been there a few times and the service is mixed.
>Sometimes excellent and sometimes the pits.  The food is mediocre
>at best, but the beer is good.  For good food in a brewery, go
>to the Commonwealth brewery in Boston instead.  

Another possibility is the Blue Room, in the basement of the building
adjacent to Cambridge Brewery's.  They have strange but very good food,
decent service, and they also have Cambridge Brewery beer.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {spdcc|ima|world}!iecc!johnl
From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Looking for Buffalo Wings
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:32:39 GMT
	<MARY.92Oct7144958@martinique.Cayman.COM>
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Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

The wings at the S&S are quite nice, but to my taste buds a bit of
home-cooking sensibility has snuck in, makinghtem healthier and less
lethal than "hard-core" buffalo wings. I like the S&S's sweet wings
too.
  
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From: bsmith@serverx.osf.org (Bruce Smith)
Subject: Re: What's the status of Mary Chung's?
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:56:33 GMT

In article <Bw4BA6.3CF@apollo.hp.com> tracy@apollo.HP.COM (Tracy Hoover) writes:
>Does anyone know if has opened, and what the new location is?  If someone
>could email me the info, that would be great - I don't want to start a
>flame fest about Mary and her food.
>

Rumor has it that it's called "Mary Chung's Red Lobster," located somewhere
between Cambridge, MA and New London, CT. Specialty of the house is supposedly
"Dun-Dun-Dungeness Crab." Try to not sound like you're stuttering when you
order it!

Bruce Smith
From: mary@Cayman.COM (Mary Malmros)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Looking for Buffalo Wings
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:49:58 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: cyoung@virtual8.harvard.edu's message of 7 Oct 92 17:39:04 GMT


In article <CYOUNG.92Oct7123904@virtual8.harvard.edu> cyoung@virtual8.harvard.edu (Cliff Young) writes:

   Can anyone suggest a place that serves good Buffalo Wings in the
   Boston Area?  So far Wing-It and Pizzeria Uno's are the only ones I've
   found.

Try the Cuckoo's Nest in Davis Square (in the old Rosebud).  They have 
quite good and authentic wings (speaking as an upstate NY native).   
They are the best I've had so far in Boston...don't EVEN compare them
to Uno's ridiculous pale weak flabby wings.

I've heard the S&S in Cambridge has quite good wings, but I've never
had them.
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Newsgroups: ne.food
From: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Re: Cambridge Brewing Company (Flame)
Reply-To: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:19:02 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.021100.29344@eff.org> peterco@eff.org (Peter  
Cohen) writes:
> 

Very interesting.

(p.s. CBC is great! Just went the other night, food seems to have  
improved since last time I went, Charles River Porter was excellent.)
From: gjc@mitech.com (George J. Carrette)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Putting people on the defensive about Red Lobsters
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:57:58 GMT
Organization: Mitech Corporation, Concord MA

About those red lobsters...

The problem is that a comment of the form:
 
 "but why would you want to do that?"

especially when content free (no actually opinion given or statements made
that could be commented on or verified) is
is not only an implied negative comment,
it is an implied attack-to-the-man, that can only put
the original poster on the defensive.

Because what the commentor is saying really, is
"please justify your question"
"please justify your judgement to ask such a question"

-gjc
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: quodling@peevax.enet.dec.com
Subject: Re: Looking for Buffalo Wings
Organization: PC/PCI Appl Group
Distribution: ne
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:00:40 GMT

In article <CYOUNG.92Oct7123904@virtual8.harvard.edu>, cyoung@virtual8.harvard.edu (Cliff Young) writes:
> 
> Can anyone suggest a place that serves good Buffalo Wings in the
> Boston Area?  So far Wing-It and Pizzeria Uno's are the only ones I've
> found.
> 
> Thanks,
> Cliff Young
> 
> cyoung@das.harvard.edu

A bunch of co-workers and wings fans regularly hit the bar, at the Ground Round
in Chelmsford, MA. A little way out of Boston, proper, but if you ask for
"Suicide Wings", you get "real hot"...

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From: merritt@macro.bu.edu (Sean Merritt)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Cambridge Brewery (ReFlame)
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:58:07 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Boston University Physics Department
In-reply-to: boomer@sylsoft.com's message of 12 Oct 92 17:01:34 GMT




In article <D2150032.fu6cq5@sylsoft.com> boomer@sylsoft.com (Richard Akerboom) writes:

responds to:

   In article <9210092357.AA13313@iecc.cambridge.ma.us> (ne.food), johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine) writes:
   > >I have been there a few times and the service is mixed.
   > >Sometimes excellent and sometimes the pits.  The food is mediocre
   > >at best, but the beer is good.  For good food in a brewery, go
   > >to the Commonwealth brewery in Boston instead.  
   > 
   > Another possibility is the Blue Room, in the basement of the building
   > adjacent to Cambridge Brewery's.  They have strange but very good food,
   > decent service, and they also have Cambridge Brewery beer.
   > 

%   another data point. I dinner there about 10 days ago with a few friends.
%   The service was slow and almost surly. You had to hail the waitron
%   to get any attention.

Call me crazy but I go to CBC,BBW, etc for BEER/ALE not for food.

The one time I didn't not eat at the bar at The Cambridge B. Co. the service
was abysmal. Solution/resolution; we stiffed the haughty women who was
waiting on us. If enough people tip commenserate with service they
will get the hint. If you really want to make a point leave a note
or write on the check the reason for no/small gratuity. 

The other solution go the BBW where the food,beer, & service are all
better.



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Newsgroups: ne.food
From: peterco@eff.org (Peter Cohen)
Subject: Re: What's the status of Mary Chung's?
Originator: peterco@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:56:53 GMT

Hasn't opened yet, should be RSN, will be in Central Square.

How many people support the idea of Mary having her own newsgroup? 
ne.food.ravs, maybe?
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Newsgroups: ne.food
From: ed@odi.com (Ed Schwalenberg)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Red Lobster
Organization: Object Design, Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 13:44:36 GMT

In article <1892@sousa.ltn.dec.com> pimentel@earrth.enet.dec.com (John Pimentel) writes:
  ** flame on **
  It's unfortunate that two people can't read well.  I do recall asking where
  to find a Red Lobster, but I DO NOT RECALL asking if it was any good.
  (YO anyone home?)
  ** flame off **

If you haven't noticed that ne.food is primarily a forum for people to vent
their opinions on the subject of restaurants, I suggest that you're the one
in need of remedial reading courses.
From: pimentel@earrth.enet.dec.com (John Pimentel)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Opinions about Red Lobster
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:01:25 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <GLEN.92Oct8142427@midway.Cayman.COM>, glen@Cayman.COM (Glen B. Glater) writes...
>In article <1900@sousa.ltn.dec.com> pimentel@earrth.enet.dec.com (John Pimentel) writes:
> 
><whining deleted>

and replaced by lame excuses 

>Actually, I didn't have anything negative to say about Red Lobster.
>I just commented on my lack of understanding of why someone would go
>out of their way to find a seafood chain when there are so many good 
>restaraunts around here.

And in that regard you were off-topic ***even if*** the supposed purpose
for this group is for individuals to gather together and "vent their opinions"
about restruants that they like or dislike.  The subject line stated:
	Where can I find a Red Lobster

It did not state:
	1.) What do you think about Red Lobster
	2.) Are there better places than Red Lobster
	3.) Why should I not consider Red Lobster 

>By the way, my negative comments were directed to New London, not towards 
>the Red Lobster.  My qualifications for those negative comments?  I grew
>up there, my family still lives there.

Then they had really no constructive, muchless destructive reason for 
being in a posting.

>So there.

So there?

On last point I'd like to make:  I didn't know that there was one "out
of [my] way", nor did I have the slightest idea where to find one, else
why would I have posted a simple and to the point question.  Right?

One last request, please don't judge what is out of my way. That's *not*
your call!   Thank you.


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From: jlacey@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (james.w.lacey)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Restaurants North of Boston?
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:40:40 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: AT&T


Here are some in Newburyport:
........
Breakfast:
Kathy-Ann's
Fowle's
........
Downtown restaurants:

Middle Street Cafe
Great cinnamon rolls, good lunch, casual atmosphere, rude staff.

Mall (pronounced mal not moll)
Grog
Jacob Marley's
These three offer medium priced decent food and varied menus that 
will please most people's taste.  The Grog also has entertainment
downstairs -- cover charged.


Amigos
OK mexican food

Schezuan Taste
Good chinese food

Caffe Sienna
Espresso, capacino, italian pastery

Outside of downtown:
Sweet Vidalia Cafe on Winter Street
Better than average updated Italian food in a poor location.

Labadini's near the traffic circle
Mediocre Italian food in a good location.

Alden-Merrill in the industrial park
Not a restaurant, but a bakery that specializes  in
carrot cake, cheese cake, etc.  Supplier to fancy
restaurants.


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Newsgroups: ne.food
From: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Re: Opinions about Red Lobster (now on Legal's case)
Reply-To: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:07:26 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.194500.11540@mv.mv.com> mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E.  
Mallett) writes:
> BTW if seafood restaurant chains are implicitly avoidable, as one  
post
> claimed, then I guess you can't go to Legal's.  Or here in NH, to

Actually, IMHO some of the stuff served up at Legal's isn't always  
that great.  I've had some pretty dry fish and other unappetizing  
fare at LS, especially in the Framingham, MA location.  Opinions?
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: peterco@eff.org (Peter Cohen)
Subject: Re: Cambridge Brewery (ReFlame)
Originator: peterco@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: ne
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:11:01 GMT

I don't know.  I think probably the best solution is to flame the
management, which I'll probably do in a letter, attaching this thread,
unless any of the authors object.


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From: mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Opinions about Red Lobster
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:45:00 GMT
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.

In article <GLEN.92Oct8142427@midway.Cayman.COM> glen@Cayman.COM (Glen B. Glater) writes:
><whining deleted>

[ Get that monitor adjusted! ]

The only Red Lobster I've been to is in Guelph, Ontario.  (Canada)

It was OK; especially compared to the other places that I tried
thereabouts.  The most interesting thing about it, to me, was that
they served a Bloody Mary drink with Clamato instead of tomato juice.
It wasn't the first I'd heard of that, but the first I'd seen it on a
menu anywhere.

BTW if seafood restaurant chains are implicitly avoidable, as one post
claimed, then I guess you can't go to Legal's.  Or here in NH, to
Newicks.

-mm-

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From: blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Opinions about Red Lobster
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:21:03 GMT
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.

In article <1909@sousa.ltn.dec.com>, pimentel@earrth.enet.dec.com
(John Pimentel) writes:

=> And in that regard you were off-topic ***even if*** the supposed purpose
=> for this group is for individuals to gather together and "vent their opinions"
=> about restruants that they like or dislike.  The subject line stated:
=> 	Where can I find a Red Lobster
=> 
=> It did not state:
=> 	1.) What do you think about Red Lobster
=> 	2.) Are there better places than Red Lobster
=> 	3.) Why should I not consider Red Lobster 

I think you're problem is that you took it personally when
someone made some comment or suggestion. This is not the
first time (or the last) that some inquiry will break off
into different threads. It's human nature to discuss, and
most people acceed to the fact that tastes will vary.

If we become indignant about posts that like places we don't,
and are negative about places we like, then most of the BW
here would be flaming each others tastes. As you know, there's
no accounting for taste. 

If you don't like discussions, then next time please use the
Yellow Pages to find restaurants. It's the only way you're
going to avoid them. Nothing personal... just life in the big
city.

BTW, the Red Lobster at Enoshima Beach, Fujisawa City, Kanagawa
Prefecture, Japan is pretty decent. Great cost performance for
Japan... but it may be a little out of the way :-) But would I
go to a Red Lobster located in Ogunquit Maine? Surely not...
please excuse the opinion.

(note: at that RL, and some other places in Japan, they sell
"shorts" - immature lobsters that would be illegal to sell
here. Does anyone know the source? Is it OK to start a new
thread?)

- Bill Lambert
From: boomer@sylsoft.com (Richard Akerboom)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Cambridge Brewery (ReFlame)
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:01:34 GMT
Reply-To: boomer@sylsoft.com (Richard Akerboom)
Distribution: ne
Organization: Sylvan Software
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In article <9210092357.AA13313@iecc.cambridge.ma.us> (ne.food), johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine) writes:
> >I have been there a few times and the service is mixed.
> >Sometimes excellent and sometimes the pits.  The food is mediocre
> >at best, but the beer is good.  For good food in a brewery, go
> >to the Commonwealth brewery in Boston instead.  
> 
> Another possibility is the Blue Room, in the basement of the building
> adjacent to Cambridge Brewery's.  They have strange but very good food,
> decent service, and they also have Cambridge Brewery beer.
> 

another data point. I dinner there about 10 days ago with a few friends.
The service was slow and almost surly. You had to hail the waitron
to get any attention.

Rich

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From: rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Opinions about Red Lobster
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:36:51 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
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In article <1909@sousa.ltn.dec.com>, pimentel@earrth.enet.dec.com (John Pimentel) writes:

|> And in that regard you were off-topic ***even if*** the supposed purpose
|> for this group is for individuals to gather together and "vent their opinions"
|> about restruants that they like or dislike.  The subject line stated:
|> 	Where can I find a Red Lobster
|> 
|> It did not state:
|> 	1.) What do you think about Red Lobster
|> 	2.) Are there better places than Red Lobster
|> 	3.) Why should I not consider Red Lobster 

John, maybe you haven't been on Usenet long enough.
But once a topic starts, it can go off in just about any direction
people want it to go.    You should not be surprised to see
10 messages with the subject line "Where can I find a Reb Lobster"
that are totally about the Daily Catch or Legal Seafoods, for instance.

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Newsgroups: ne.food
From: noelie@apollo.hp.com (Noelie Alito)
Subject: Want poppy seeds in bulk
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:53:49 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

Greetings...

I am looking for a new source for buying poppy seeds "in bulk"
(i.e., by the half-pound or pound) in west-495 area (from
Westboro to Chelmsford) or in Framingham.

                 Gratefully yours,

                 Noelie
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From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Opinions about Red Lobster
Date: 9 Oct 92 12:47:54 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com

In article <1909@sousa.ltn.dec.com> pimentel@earrth.enet.dec.com  
(John Pimentel) writes:
> 
> In article <GLEN.92Oct8142427@midway.Cayman.COM>, glen@Cayman.COM  
(Glen B. Glater) writes...
> >In article <1900@sousa.ltn.dec.com> pimentel@earrth.enet.dec.com  
(John Pimentel) writes:
> > 
> ><whining deleted>
> 
> and replaced by lame excuses 
> 
> >Actually, I didn't have anything negative to say about Red  
Lobster.
> >I just commented on my lack of understanding of why someone would  
go
> >out of their way to find a seafood chain when there are so many  
good 
> >restaraunts around here.
> 
> And in that regard you were off-topic ***even if*** the supposed  
purpose
> for this group is for individuals to gather together and "vent  
their opinions"
> about restruants that they like or dislike.  The subject line  
stated:
> 	Where can I find a Red Lobster
> 
> It did not state:
> 	1.) What do you think about Red Lobster
> 	2.) Are there better places than Red Lobster
> 	3.) Why should I not consider Red Lobster 

As someone pointed out earlier, you are not the topic police.  You
do not own a topic you start.  Topics in this and every
group on usenet drift all over the place.  People are not
contrained to simply answering the question you ask, but are
free to comment on anything they like.
> 
> >By the way, my negative comments were directed to New London, not  
towards 
> >the Red Lobster.  My qualifications for those negative comments?   
I grew
> >up there, my family still lives there.
> 
> Then they had really no constructive, muchless destructive reason  
for 
> being in a posting.

So?  Two-thirds of the posting on usenet are that way. They're
a lot like real conversations that way. They tend to drift of
topic.


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From: gkushmer@jade.tufts.edu (Greg Kushmerek)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Cambridge Brewery (ReFlame)
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:22:00 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Roger Mellie Enterprises, PLC

In article <MERRITT.92Oct12155807@macro.bu.edu> merritt@macro.bu.edu (Sean Merritt) writes:

>   Call me crazy but I go to CBC,BBW, etc for BEER/ALE not for food.

Agreed, which is also why I have stopped going to CBC.  They've had some
serious staff changes which has been reflected in their beer (negatively).

>   The other solution go the BBW where the food,beer, & service are all
>   better.


While Kadish definitely has a winner on his hands with the BBW, and while
I have many good experiences there at the bar, last Friday night my 
waitress screwed up my beer order and my friend's food order.  Of course
it took a whole hour for the food to get there.  So service outside
of the bar at the BBW is a mixed bet at best (from my experience).

--gk

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