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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:23:26 PDT
From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: "Long Chain On"

>
>       As a schoolteacher in the rural Ozarks, Driftwood used his lifelong
>       interest in folk music to develop the skills of both folklorist and
>       songwriter. These skills merged in his song 'Battle of New Orleans'.
>       At the same time, Driftwood was a vigorous public spokesman for folk
>       music and folk culture.
>       'Battle of New Orleans', a historical vignette of the American War of
>       Independence set to the fiddle tune 'Eighth of January', was included
>       Driftwood's first album 'Newly Discovered Early American Folk Songs'

I hate to be Mister Historically Correct Person, but that was the War of
1812, not the War of Independence. Yeah, I know, complain to the publishers,
all right. :-)

I saw a very old lithograph of this song, dating from the 19th century, in a
DIXIE GUN WORKS catalog article about Kentucky rifles. The original song had
about a dozen or so verses, and was a popular number on the traveling
minstrel-and-medicine-show circuit in those days. In fact, Andrew Jackson used
it in his presidential campaign. Maybe somebody oughta tell Bill Clinton.

>       (RCA, 1958). The song in turn was covered by country singer JOHNNY
>       HORTON, who had a pop and country hit with it in 1959, LONNIE DONEGAN
>       in Britain, and HARPERS BIZARRE in 1968. 'Soldier's Joy' from the same
>       album and similarly a story-song set to a traditional fiddle tune,
>       provided HAWKSHAW HAWKINS with a country hit in 1959. 'Tennessee Stud',
>       a Driftwood composition from his next album 'The Wilderness Road and
>       Jimmy Driftwood' (RCA, 1959), was a hit for EDDY ARNOLD and has been
>       much recorded since.

Weird. A tune with 'We fired once more and they (the British) commenced to
runnin'" became a hit in BRITAIN? Perhaps that explains the decline of the
Empire. ;-)

"Soldier's Joy" is a well-known tune in the bluegrass songbag, and gets a
mention in Bill Monroe's "Uncle Pen": "He played one song called 'Soldier's
Joy and another one called 'Boston Boy'."

"Tennessee Stud" is another classic. Doc Watson's version is my favorite.
WHFS in Bethesda, Maryland, used to queue that one up regularly, if you
'older' DC-area folks will recall.


David (bustin' my Allmusic posting quota)
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:11:42 PDT
From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      re: ALLMUSIC confessional: secret loves and hidden desires

>>Do you have hidden tastes that you don't own up because you're afraid that
>>they'll be considered schlocky, schmaltzy, corny, campy, or down right unhip?
>

There is (or was) a local band here in the Bay Area that made a career out of
playing exactly those kind of songs. Appropriately enough, they were called
the Stupeds, and their set consisted of excruciatingly faithful cover versions
of tunes like "Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weeny Yellow Polka-Dot Bikini", "These Boots
Are Made For Walkin'", "Last Train to Clarksville", etc.

I'll confess that I always liked Glen Campbell, even "Rhinestone Cowboy". And
Barry White and the Love Unlimited Orchestra, too. I'm sure I can find some
sociopolitical excuse to blame this on... maybe 'the sexual politics of meat'
(choke... snort... "A new up-and-coming entry in the Tube Stakes...").

I'll also say that I like most of Madonna's songs, especially from her first
album before she got mega-famous.

>
>i borrowed the pixies cd _doolittle_ whence that quote comes from a friend
>yesterday.  the following is my humble attempt at a kovitz-style review of
>the recording:
>
>   leaning across the edge of consiousness, the sounds create a vast expanse,
>   a great void, a large blank slate upon which nothing can ever be written.
>   the pixies push me over this edge into what we commonly know as slumber,
>   and my mind, frantic for some kind of release, begins to search in vain
>   for a locus, a vertex, indeed -- anything at all.  drowsiness ebbs and
>   wanes, weaving, merging itself into my very being until we are truly one,
>   at which point apathy begins its deluge, pouring forth from every
>   direction, filling the space between me and every object in the room.
>   from here i can only resolve to return the disc player, and the pixies
>   with it, to mode access standby.
>

You trine t' say the album put ya to sleep? ;-)

David
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From: mchenry@guvax.georgetown.edu
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Subject: need train song recommendations
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:19:01 GMT
Organization: Georgetown University

Friends:

I want to make a compilation tape of songs about the railroad or trains or 
closely related subjects for my 8-year-old nephew. I would like any 
suggestions. If you think the song suggested has adult themes (such as 
Springsteen's Downbound Train), then please indicate this. If there is 
interest I will post the resulting list. Please mail directly to:

mchenry@guvax.georgetown.edu

Thanks very much.

Bill McHenry
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Blind patriotism -- no OMC
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:09:59 GMT

In article <ALLMUSIC%92082812344402@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET> writes:
>On Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:01:21 CDT Leonard Watkins said:
>>The Land of the free, so that means we can pray in schools now, can i pick and
>
>You've always been able to pray in schools.  My problem is that the STATE tried
>to FORCE me to pray in school, something I refused to do and was punished for.

Me too.  My idea of praying is listening to John Coltrane at such a high
volume to put one in an ascended state that one needs to commune with
God.  They didn't let me.

Jeff
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:50:01 CDT
From:         Lee=Jenkins%Factory=Sup%Mfg=Hou@BANGATE.COMPAQ.COM
Subject:      re: To Sharrock or not To Sharrock

From:           gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject:        To Sharrock or not To Sharrock
Date:           Thursday, September 3, 1992 at 10:55:00 am CDT
[...]
>Black Jacques Sharrock: what album do you recommend to someone with a heavy
>metal/hard rock background and likes new age music more and more each day?

i also come from a metal background.  i have two sharrock cds: _seize the
rainbow_ and _ask the ages_, and i like them both very much.  some advice:
whichever one you choose, drop any expectations you might have; listen to
it all the way through once casually and put it away.  don't analyze it;
don't make any effort to think about it.  then listen to something else you
know well and enjoy.  later that day play sonny again, this time paying a
little closer attention to what's going on.  repeat steps two and three,
whichever ones they happen to be :).  when you listen the third time you'll
find yourself humming some of the melodies along with sonny's axe.

that's what worked for me, anyway.  sometimes i approach new music from
this "subconscious" perspective.  it helps me create a new mental
context for the music, instead of forcing the music to fit, however
akwardly, into a previously defined context.

whew, i really hadn't planned on saying so much.  listening to sharrock
is much easier than reading my text.

lee

*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*

our little group has always been and always will until the end with the
lights out it's less dangerous here we are now entertain us i feel stupid
and contagious here we are now entertain us, a mulatto, an albino, a
mosquito, my libido, yay, yay, the denial
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 08:23:00 CDT
From:         schneider@MDCGWY.MDC.COM
Subject:      Some thoughts to make you go HMMMMMMMMM?
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From:	NAME: Henry E. Schneider
	FUNC: J745
	TEL: (713) 280-1775                   <SCHNEIDER.HENRY@A1@SSDHOU>
To:	WINS%"<ALLMUSIC@AMERICAN.EDU>"@MDCGWY@MRGATE


Have you met Larry Henschen's sister and brother?
Apri and Compri?    - Bill Veach

Time wounds all heels.    - Robert A. Heinlein

A good many dramatic situations begin with
screaming.   - Jane Fonda, in Barbarella

Portuguese is Spanish spoken by a drunken
Frenchman.    - Jose Spencer

If Kevin thinks we have a problem, then we probably
have a problem.    - Joe Kerwin

Death is nature's way of telling you to slow down.
- John Dees

If you can keep your head when all about you are
losing theirs, you obviously don't understand the
situation.

Disappointment requires adequate planning.  You
really have to plan thoroughly for it.  The more
planning, the more disappointment.    - Richard
Bandler

Reality is a crutch for those who cannot handle
Science Fiction.

There's nothing like a little personal crisis to
add spice to your life.   - Nanci Brasket

Where there's a will there's a way out.    - Ellis
Henry

We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we
were beginning to form up into teams, we would be
reorganized.  I was to learn later in life that we
tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing, and
what a wonderful method it can be for creating an
illusion of progress while producing confusion,
inefficiency, and demoralization.    - Petronius
Arbiter, 210 B.C

Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you
think it will take, even if you take into account
Hofstadter's Law.

They call television a medium because nothing on it
is well done.    - Fred Allen

Something is useless only if you don't know how to
use it.    - Buzz Aldrin

Old musicians never die, they just decompose.

DAS MACHINE IS NICHT FUR GERFINGERPOKEN UND
MITTENGRABBEN.  IS EASY SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK,
BLOWENFUZEN, UND POPPEN KORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKEN.
IST NICHT FUR GEWERKEN BY DAS DUMMKOPFEN.  DAS
RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DER HANDS IN DAS
POCKETS, RELAXEN UND JUS VATCH DER BLINKEN LIGHTS.
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:57:00 LCL
From:         Kevin Sonney <KEVIN.DAVINCI@MHS.UNC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: I'm a patriot and that's ok
X-To:         "Leonard Watkins" <ALLMUSIC@auvm.american.edu>

>On Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:58:14 -0400 Russ Gelinas said:
>>  Speaking of ol' Ted Nugent, I just happened to catch the Nuge on empTV
>>recently, with that band, what, Band of Yankees or something.  Made me
>>wanna gag.  Actually, it was so bad I was forced into gazing at the
>>spectacle much longer than was really safe.  Some song about "Don't Tread
>>on Me", chock full of jingoistic right-wing nationaliam.  Their stage
>>was draped with giant US flags on either side.  Of course, their much
>>practiced arena rock stage antics were equally as disgusting.  Rumor has it
>>that the white supremicists holed up in Idaho are playing this song as high
>>volume at the FBI agents surrounding the house, trying to drive them away,
>>sort of a reverse-Noriega.  It might work.
>>
>>Russ
>
>I believe I like Ted a little better now - if only Sinead would try that
>I mean hell even Jimi played the banner
>

Sorry,  There's  only  so much  "In-your-face"  patriotism I  can
stand. It's kinda like an "In-your-face" religion.

I DEFINATELY  prefer Ted BEFORE  _Damn Yankies_. I bet he doesn't
even do "Wango-Tango"  on stage anymore. <sigh - ah, the good ol'
days....>

-=Kevin=-
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:58:00 CST
From:         WILLIACG@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU
Subject:      Re: Rap
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Well I've have been only reading the messages from this list up until now
(this moment).
Chris,
     How can you dislike Mac Daddy and Daddy Mac? These are rap artists
with something to say like Ice-T and KRS-1. I believe someone did comment
on Ralph Tresvant also. Something about him being a ballad man. Well that
is true, but he can not sing worth anything.

Anyway I'd like to know if there are any members of this list from any
of the historically black colleges?

My last question is: Has anyone listen to the last Miles Davis album?
And What do you think of it?
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:49:33 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      jazz question

I was wondering if anyone has heard of Eric Essex a jazz guitar player
who's from b'ham and now attends Berklee. Saw him last night and the
whole band was berklee students/graduates and man they were great
each player was like a prodigy. I'm wondering do they just sit around
and jam all day at Berklee. He has a few albums out that are very good
I'm just wondering if any of you jazz fans are familair with him and
what you think. I was absolutely blown away they would just cop a groove
and jam their brains out it was incredible and free, and they don't have
the big ego's that mess up alot of people. Very enjoyable i'm still
grooving from it of course 3 hrs sleep didn't help...thanks for any
info ......Lenny Ray
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:31:21 CDT
Comments:     Resent-From: Renato <U33963@UICVM>
Comments:     Originally-From: Renato Barahona <U33963@UICVM>
From:         "Renato" <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      ALLMUSIC confessional: secret loves and hidden desires

Musicdom: I'm informed by reliable sources that this probably didn't get thru t
oday. So here it goes once again. RB
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
This list is fairly dull --except for Steak Queen's offerings-- so let's try so
mething else. Listen up all you in Musicland -- you won't find it on a map; it'
s a state of mind: Do you have hidden tastes that you don't own up because you'
re afraid that they'll be considered schlocky, schmaltzy, corny, campy, or down
right unhip? Do you swoon to the Tijuana Brass, get inspired by the Chipmunks,
love "Lite FM" stations, want to get parallel with your partners to the sounds
of Mantonvani, or adore cheesy lounge acts? Well, the time's come to unburden y
ourself directly into the ALLMUSIC confessional.

Truth impels to confess a passion for film sountracks of the 50s/60s, especiall
y those of North, Goldsmith, Bernstein, Herrmann and Morricone.  OK, let's hear
 from everyone, now, whatayasay?

Renato
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 14:27:35 -0400
From:         "Russell A. Potter" <rapotter@COLBY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Popul Vuh
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>OK OK, with all this talk of Popul Vuh, I must inquire:
>	What styles of music do they play?
>
>-Adam

That's a tough one.  Vuh is kind of in-between the normal parameters of
folk, German space music, ambient sounds, and world music.   Florian
Fricke, Vuh's
central member, is a clasiccaly-trained keyboardist; his chief collborator
(whose name escapes me at the moment) is/was an accomplished player of the
sitar, the tanbur, the tablas,  and other Indian/pacific basic instruments.
  Yet there have been no fewer than eight other on/off-members of the group
over the years -- some basically electronic-music types, in the school of
Schulze and Froese, others who maybe only played hand-bells on some obscure
cut back in '77. Of the discs I've heard, my favorites as Tantric Songs and
Bruder des Schattens, Sohne des Lichts.  These albums are very mystical,
spacey, with a lot of Indian instrumentation, repetitive, mantra-like
melodic lines, and spooky vox backgrounds.  But they also do everything
else, from "volksiche" flute and drum bits, to neo-medieval chants (Aguirre
II), to one album whose B-side (near as I
can recall) consisted simply of a 22 minute-long low tone (I think that was
Hosianna Mantra, but my memory may be defunct -- I used to have them all on
vinyl, but traded them away and have had difficulty finding them again).
Their greatest claim to fame is no doubt their work doing soundtracks for
Werner Herzog -- of which they have done quite a few: Herz Aus Glas,
Fitzcarraldo, Nosferatu, and Aguirre.

For more info, check out the discography at cs.uwp.edu, or write to the
national public radio show "Echoes" (out here it's on Wednesday nights);
they did a show on Vuh a few months back which I taped, and they supply
free playlists and discographies to anyone interested.

russell potter
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:05:27 EDT
From:         Michelle May <MAMAY@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      KrissKross

 Maybe I've missed something. . .Mac Daddy and Daddy Mac have a lot to say???
 The only thing I've heard from them is how they're the baaddest rappers
 around--doesn't sound like much to say to me. . .

 I agree with Ralph Tresvant not being able to sing.  But who said a weak
 voice would keep you from selling millions of records.  Babyface is another
 pitiful example of that phenomenon. . .
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From: viktoria@carson.u.washington.edu (Viktoria Seibert)
Subject: test
Summary: test
Keywords: test
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 10:51:59 GMT

test

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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 10:09:14 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      QUICK SOMEBODY CALL THE SDRAWKCAB
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I have dropped down the well into my first ROTCOD ZAJJ tape and I want to say
that this is incredibly HOT KOOL BAD STUPH!  Baboons, hyenas and raptors loose
in the studio leaping over the funky keyboards, guitar, sax, with toppling
genius IQs and enough rattling energy to make you wish you were right there
jamming with them for the rest of your life: IT NEVER GETS BORING.  You keep
leaning forward to hear what's coming around the next bend.  This music is
Music.  No sub-category will do.  If you're in a funk ready to jump off Buckeye
Stadium (that's what folks do here) this music will bring you back to earth and
send you off to learn the bodhran, the kazoo and Sanskrit mantras on the side.
 Clouds travel over the wall, colors tip over sideways, light shows fall
downstairs--this is life at the peak, a wild wandering pleasure of sound like a
five year old set loose in the storage-room of the Philharmonic, B'rer Rabbit--
oh PUH-LEAZE don't throw me into that jazz-juke-blooz joint...

To all netters who question my incomprehensible reviewing style, I reply in the
words of John Middleton Murry: "If you try to be precise you are bound to be
metaphorical."   (yaaaa)

To all netters  who haven't yet heard ROTCOD ZAJJ: yer like *nowheresville*

Sonia
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:12:05 PST
From:         Mike McGuire <MIKEM@OAK.HIS.UCSF.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The mighty Page...(pull the other one)

On Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:58:00 EDT EdD tHe MaDd said:
>Page in truth,
>  The guitarist sooth
>For the Mighty Led Zeppelin Train:
>
>Skill he had
>  and played - not bad -
>For every fan, his powerful refrain,
>
>But alack
>  He was a Hack
>And his talent was his STUDIO brain.
>
>Waxing Rhapsodic
>  On his music melodic
>Will leave your veracity without stain,
>
>But placing Page
>  as Guitar sage
>Will bring it naught but pain.
>
>                                          Love and Kisses
>                                          Ed.

I must say,  it is damn good to hear from you again Ed.  Have you been
away or have I?
Mike
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 10:10:09 CDT
From:         "The Truth (some assembly required)" <T9AA@SDSUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: ALLMUSIC confessional: secret loves and hidden desires

Bluegrass. I am in awe of Doc Watson and Bill Monroe. While I
could hang with Alice Cooper, it is Bill Monroe I would not
be worthy to meet.

Most of my other interests (jazz, alt-indie rock, industrial,
     "classic" rock, old Grateful Dead, Chuck Berry, reggae &
     ska) seem fairly obvious.

Dave
t9aa@sdsumus.bitnet
These are a few of my favorite things
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From: larry@cs.com (Larry Spence)
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Subject: Re: Gabriel/Zappa/Eno
Date: 4 Sep 92 08:38:24 GMT
Organization: Computer Support Corporation,  Dallas,Texas

In article <ALLMUSIC%92090310443038@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> UQPSGFB@UQSS.UQUEBEC.CA (Francois Boulet) writes:
>
>and Eno, when will this record will be out?

The new Eno, _Nerve Net_, came out on 9/1 in the US.  It's a lot like the
old saying, "when she was good, she was very, very good, but when she was
bad, she was awful."  Fortunately, Robert Fripp isn't on the tracks that 
suck. %)  There's also a US CD single with 11 mixes of "Fractal Zoom,"
some of which have Fripp guitar parts not found on the "album" track.  But
11 mixes still seems like total overkill.... a 70 minute "single."  The 
European CD single only has three mixes.

-- 
Larry Spence
larry@cs.com
uunet!csccat!larry or sun!texsun!csccat!larry
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:29:18 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: who said it

On Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:59:06 EDT Rick said:
>On Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:01:26 CDT Leonard Watkins said:
>>This is just a paragraph out of a book that i thought was interesting
>>
>>People ask me how i make music, i tell them i just step into it.
>
>   Hmmm... sounds like a scatological reference to me.
>   Either Mozart or Frank Zappa. Is Karen Finley singing now?
>
>>like stepping into a river and joining the flow . Every moment in the
>>river has its song. So i stay in the moment and listen.
>>What i hear is never the same. A walk through the woods brings a light,
>>crackling song: Leaves rustle in the wind, birds chatter and squirrels
>>scold, twigs crunch underfoot, and the beat of my heart holds it all together
>
>   Oh he/she's getting pastoral on us. John Denver or any New Ager? Burl Ives?
>Ted Nugent?
>
>>When you join the flow, the music is inside and outside, and both are the
>>same. As long as i can listen to the moment, I'll always have music.
>
>  Descent into gibberish. Garcia? Hendrix? Jim Morrison? Kenny G.? Michael
>Bolton? David Gilmour? Grace Slick? Little Richard? Thomas Dolby? Rita
>Coolidge? George Winston? Chuck Mangione? Debbie Boone? Anyone from L.A.?
>>
>>I bet no one can guess who said that, but you better try or i'll start
>>everyone talking about German music again.
>
> Well, now we know it wasn't a German musician. At least that's clear.
>
> Leonard, this isn't a trick question, is it? Is this actually an old Cheech
> and Chong routine or something?
> Rick

Everyones favorite Michael Jackson - ok back to german blues music
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From: tvechins@eng.auburn.edu (Toni R. Vechinski)
Subject: LA BAMBA
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:40:45 GMT


      I was wondering if anyone knows the words to 'La Bamba'.  If you do,
could you write them down and send them to my e-mail address?  It would be
greatly appreciated.  If you happened to know the translation, or part of it, 
that would be great too.   Thanks!!
  
                                       Toni

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