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From: dave@silver.sni.ca (Dave Till)
Subject: Re: Boggs Toronto bound?
Organization: Apprentice Coneheads, Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:05:23 GMT

In article <BtnDHz.9z0@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> eboritz@watarts.uwaterloo.ca (Efrim Boritz) writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.120739.2125@merrimack.edu> desmondw@merrimack.edu writes:
>>
>>                            2. Alomar(2nd base)
>>                            3. Carter(OF)
>>                            4. Winfield(DH)
>>                            5. Olerud (1st base)
>
>Why does everyone (including Cito) put Olerud down here? Bat him third.
>Hell, bat him second.

People don't want to bat John near the top of the order because:
(a) he has power (and is likely to increase his power as he ages);
(b) he is really, really slow.

Have there been many teams who put a really slow player at the top of
their lineup?  Did the greater OBP more than offset the decreased
likelihood of scoring from second with a two-out single?  Does
anybody know?
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are sleeping habits, hair length and beards." -- from *Whale Music*
From: jtchern@ocf.berkeley.edu (Joseph Hernandez)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: MLB Magic Numbers for Fri, Aug 28th, 1992
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:36:16 GMT
Organization: Joseph TeleCommunications Enterprises; Berkeley, California, USA
Via: JTC Enterprises Major League Baseball Department (Statistics Division)
     JTC Enterprises Sports Sector (Information Department)


        MAGIC NUMBERS OF DIVISION LEADERS FOR FRIDAY, AUGUST 28, 1992

          [NOTE: Includes all of yesterday's games; i-idle yesterday
                   z-won yesterday or split a doubleheader.]

NATIONAL WEST		 MN	        	NATIONAL EAST		 MN
Atlanta	Braves		i--		        Pittsburgh Pirates	i--
Cincinnati Reds		i35		        Montreal Expos		i34
San Diego Padres	i31		        Chicago Cubs		i28
San Francisco Giants	i21		        St. Louis Cardinals      26
Houston Astros		z20		        New York Mets           i24
Los Angeles Dodgers	i15		        Philadelphia Phillies	i17

AMERICAN WEST		 MN 		        AMERICAN EAST		 MN
Oakland Athletics	i--		        Toronto Blue Jays	z--
Chicago White Sox       i29		        Baltimore Orioles	i33
Minnesota Twins          29		        Milwaukee Brewers	 30
Texas Rangers		 20		        Detroit Tigers          i23
Kansas City Royals      z18		        Cleveland Indians        22
California Angels       i17		        New York Yankees        z22
Seattle Mariners	z12		        Boston Red Sox          i21
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From: pcaster@mizar.usc.edu (Dodger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Clearing Waivers
Date: 30 Aug 92 18:37:52 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

Can someone please answer this question?

How is it possible that Cone cleared waivers when just two
weeks ago, Bobby Ojeda DID NOT clear waivers.

Seems to me the rest of the National League WANTS to see the
Dodgers finish in last place.  It makes no sense that a
pitcher of Cone's quality could sail through, yet Ojeda
was blocked.

					BleedsDodgerBlue
From: yajima@nttcom.ntt.jp (YAJIMA Hiroshi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball,soc.culture.baseball
Subject: Japan Central League
Date: 31 Aug 92 01:07:20 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: NTT Network Information Systems Labs. Musashino, Tokyo

Japan Central League Standing (Through games on Sunday Augst 30)
                        
                       W   L   T   Pct.   GB
Yakult Swallows       56  44   0   .560   --
Yomiuri Giants        57  50   0   .533   2.5
Hanshin Tigers        55  49   1   .529   3.0
Hiroshima Carp        52  50   0   .510   5.0
Taiyo Whales          48  57   1   .475  10.5
Chunichi Dragons      43  61   0   .413  15.0
---------
 Kazuhisa Kawaguchi hurled a three-hitter shutout for his fifth win of the
season, lifting Hiroshima Carp over Yomiuri Giants Sunday night (August 30th)
at Hiroshima Stadium. That's well done.
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From: z_copeab@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: CY, MVP, ROY
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:13:53 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In article <1992Aug28.193940.16825@tamsun.tamu.edu>, rlopez@loanstar.tamu.edu (Robert Lopez) writes:
> National League
> ---------------
> 
> Cy Young
> 1. Tom Glavine
> 2. That's it

	Bob Tewksbury probably won't finish close in the voting, but he has some
excellent number this year (ERA just over 2, 14 BB in 180-something innings,
for just over a baserunner an inning). Problem is he's 'only' 13-5, while
Glavine is 19-3 (stats from Wend. 26 USA Today).

Brandon Cope
From: buchhosd@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Scott D Buchholz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Clark traded from the Sox?
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:06:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucunix.1992Aug28.160620.28089
Organization: University of Cincinnati

In article <1992Aug28.125533.32185@europa.asd.contel.com> king@ssvax.gte.com (Larry King) writes:
>	Yes, Clark did clean out his locker (name plate and all) but has
           
The guy's getting desperate! Maybe he sold it! :):)

-- 

                                         Scott Buchholz
                                         University of Cincinnati
                                         Computer Science
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Re: DAVID CONE TO BLUE JAYS
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:02:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.201223.3863@ncsu.edu> Perry@mte.ncsu.edu (Bill Perry) writes:
>
>I expect the Jays to re-sign Cone at the end of the season for three reasons.
>1) They can afford him
>2) Their pitching staff is quite old (and bad), they need the new blood
>3) Cone wanted badly to be on a winner, and now he is on one, so why leave?  

Hm.  Signing Cone certainly wouldn't hurt them.  But how many $5
million contracts can they afford?  They will surely sign Carter to a
lot of money.  Morris is already making the big bucks.  Surely they
will ask Dave Winfield back too.  And Jimmy Key?  Dave Stieb?  Gruber,
White, and Ward are already signed to hefty contracts.

I suppose they can afford it, though.  Best attendance in the majors
by far, and a reasonably lucrative TV contract I believe.  Maybe they
will be a *successful* high-contract team?

>Overall it is a great trade.  Anytime you can trade two backups for a
>premier pitcher you've done well, even if the pitcher is unsigned.
>Hell, why not offer 5-6 mil a year right now, to make him happy and
>lead the Jays all the Way!!

If it is Sprague and Kent, they aren't backups.  They are starters.
Toronto has simply insisted (in their usual warped fashion) on
starting the backups (Gruber and Border) the entire year.  Why ask
why?  This is the team which has Devon White leading off and Joe
Carter batting third ahead of Winfield and Olerud!  But I agree with
your main point.  The Jays have enough depth to afford to part with
two starter-quality players.

Sprague is 24.  He plays C, and can handle 1B and 3B.

Career stats:
Year	Level	 AB	  BA  OBP  SLG
1989	high-A	192	.219/.300/.396
	AAA	288	.208/.264/.316
1990	AAA	519	.239/.293/.418
1991	AAA	 88	.364/.431/.625
	Toronto	160	.275/.361/.394

Bill James projected:	.240/.288/.391
AAA stats through 7/18:	.276/????/.480	(in 323 AB)

Sprague is young, plays catcher, and his hitting has steadily
improved.  IMHO he is a better hitter right now than Borders
(.253/.303/.409).

Jeff Kent is also 24.  He plays 2B, and can handle 3B.

Career stats:
1989	low-A	268	.224/.318/.429
1990	high-A	447	.277/.360/.465
1991	AA	445	.256/.379/.418

MLE for 1991:		.248/.339/.405
stats for 1992:		.237/.321/.442

Kent is very clearly a better hitter than Kelly Gruber right now.  He
*should* be starting at 3B for the Jays.  But that's playing him out
of position.  He would be a starting 2B for any team in the league
except the Jays and Indians.  (And he might convince the Indians to
move Baerga back to third.)

All of this for 5 weeks of David Cone.  *I* think the Mets got a
bargain!  (Why couldn't the Red Sox trade Reardon or Pena or Bruno for
even *one* prospect of *half* this quality?  Oh, well.  Maybe the
draft picks will turn out okay.)

Cheers,
-Valentine
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From: 11dmcvay@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Daniel T. McVay)
Subject: UPDATE: Team Support polls
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 04:52:50 GMT

While I did a poll throughout my mailbox which happens to have been
stuffed full of mail. We're talking about over fifty email messages
I have to sift through.

Anyway, at this stage, the Baltimore O's have a bigger support group
than any other team as the polls go. The Minny Twins and the Red Sox
come in a tie for second. 

Watch for further and complete results in the upcoming days.



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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt Bose "of Biscayzee")
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Regarding the proposed Fielder FAQ
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:35:07 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <24479@oasys.dt.navy.mil> hambric@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Hambric) writes:
>Why in the world would you guys write a Fielder FAQ summary?
>You people *live* for arguments like these.  One mention of Fielder's
>alleged RBI prowess, and stathead keyboards start flying from kneejerk
>impacts.  We'd take away all your fun if Fielder was banished as a topic
>of discussion (along with Ripken being tired in September, Jack Morris
>being a 'money' pitcher, sportswriters actually knowing something about
>baseball, ...)
>
>We non-statheads are the Yin to your Yang.  Without our (allegedly)
>outrageous and statistically incorrect observations, the discussions
>in this newsgroup would be a lot less lively.
>

Hey, Steve, remind me to explain to you the concept of a "joke" sometime.

-- 
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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: CY, MVP, ROY
Keywords: eat more moose
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 00:31:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.231243.8781@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> mjw@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Michael Wolverton) writes:
>
>Robert Lopez writes:

>>AL ROY
>>1. Strong: Listach, Lofton
>>2. Fading: Fleming
>
>I sure hope Lofton doesn't win it.  As others have mentioned, Fleming
>appears to be getting a second wind.  He and Listach are the best
>candidates.

And, other than his gaudy SB totals, which aren't worth all that much, Lofton
has really been unimpressive.  Despite his late slumping, Andy Stankiewicz
has probably also contributed more than Lofton.  In fact, you can make a (weak)
case for Hipolito Pichardo.

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
From: tmiller@prism.gatech.EDU (Thomas Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Brave fans
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:45:51 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


  In article <66893@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt7469a@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian Landmann) writes:
>I'm getting really tired of poor Braves's fans.
>I went to the Braves/Expos game last night and to my disbelief the
>fans were booing Tom Glavine.  I know every city has some poor
>fans but how can you boo a guy who has already won 19 games?
>


  At least _some_ of the "Braves fans" here in Atlanta root for the
Braves because it's become the trendy, "in" thing to do.  This is
an insult and an embarassment to those of us who really follow the
Braves' season closely and keep our cool through the bad times.
Apparently, the "fans" like those who booed Glavine (and Justice,
and Pena earlier in the season) expect an equal or greater season
than last year's.  When they don't get what they think they should
from going to the games, they must feel that they're not getting
their money's worth or something.  So they take it out on the
player most convenient to boo...
  It sure is irritating to hear some friends of mine constantly
asking, "Hey, how 'bout them Braves?!?" or "Hey, how'd the Braves
do last night?" or "Who'd they play, anyway?".  Geez.  If these
people really cared (like I'm sure they think they do in their
heads) then they would know at least some of these things.

  I apologize if this offends anybody, especially Braves fans.  I
know there are many "good" fans out there, who don't boo the team
or individual members.  I also know that "true" fans vs. "false"
fans has been a hot topic on this group before.  I am just fed
up with the numbers of "fans" who are constantly in the dark, as
described above.  I would bet that fans who come from out of town
to see games, or fans who go to away games, don't boo the Braves.
I think the phemonenon only happens in the Atlanta area, where the
fever hit last year.





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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Cone and Overwork?
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:45:12 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1992Sep2.181727.26811@panix.com> spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira) writes:
>3) The 5 man rotation. Research has shown that the biggest problem is
>not how many innings total are pitched so much as it is how many innings
>are pitched when the arm is tired.  If managers switched back to a 4 man
>rotation, pitchers might be able to pitch a few more innings without the
>strain of those innings pitched post-tiredness.


I followed you up until this. Are you saying that 4 man rotations had one
more reliever so the starters threw less innings per start and thus less
when tired? The reason I ask is that I was under the impression that in
the past pitchers threw more innings(but fewer pitches) and assuming they
were in 4 man rotations it doesn't follow that 5 man rotations increase
the number of innings pitched while tired.

In short, I don't get it, please elaborate (-:.




Russ Smith
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: dew6c@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Dallas E. Wrege)
Subject: Re: Braves 15 to protect
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:35:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep01.193031.12954@brtph560.bnr.ca>, dbloom@bnr.ca (David Bloom P025) writes:
> Glavine
> Smoltz
> Avery
> P Smith
> Wholers
> Nied
> Gant
> Justice
> Mercker
> Klesko
> K Mitchell
> M Nieves
> Olson
> D Sanders
> Pendleton
> 
> Additions, Subtractions ?
> 
> 

All I know is, if the Braves protect Wohlers, I'll scream.

Javi Lopez (catcher) is a stud, by the way...
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: rjh@allegra.att.com (Robert Holt)
Subject: Re: ending streaks (was Re: Longest On-Base Streaks? )
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill, NJ
Distribution: na,local
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 18:50:16 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.221542.12313@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> hymowitz@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (Hymie!) writes:
>
>i also remember a story of two players competing for a batting title. the
>teams played a double-header on the last day of the season.  one batter
>took a .0003 lead after the first game.  he sat out the second game, while
>his opponent saw 5 walks - one that led to a run.
>
This sounds a lot like another story I heard.  The Giants and the
Cardinals had a doubleheader the last day of the 1939 season, and Mel Ott
and Johnny Mize were tied at 27 for the NL home run lead.  In the
first game, Mize hit a homer to break the tie, and in the second game,
Ott drew 5 walks.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: rjm1@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (bob.j.mohorek)
Subject: White Sox Tix
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: chi
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:14:38 GMT



	I have 4 Sox Tickets (Upper deck Row 15 behind Home) for
	the White Sox vs. Toronto this Wednesday 8/26. Tickets
	are $12.00, negotiable if necessary. Call me at (708)224-6538 
	or (708)653-4317 (evenings).	


						Bob Mohorek
From: lbr@holos0.uucp (Len Reed)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Baseball and Billions
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:54:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Holos Software, Inc.

In article <1992Aug27.162228.1411@cis.ohio-state.edu> miked@pterodactyl.cis.ohio-state.edu (Michael Davey) writes:
>...Sorry, honey, (sorry about the mysogeny [sic], but your ignorance 
>forces me to act out of character)....

My first reaction in reading this was outrage than anyone could write
this to Sherri, who's one of the bona fide heaver hitters in this
newsgroup.  Upon reflection, though, I realize that this would have
be inappropriate even directed to a neophyte rec.sport.baseball
poster.   Your parenthetical apology isn't in the least convincing
nor does it excuse such behavior.  If Sherri were black, would
you say "Sorry about the racism, but listen, you dumb nigger"?

BTW, as a rule it's bad practice to correct posters' spelling,
but I have to note that misspelling the key word in a stupid comment
makes the comment seem even stupider.

One last thing: I started typing this follow-up _before_ I realized that
this might be the same fellow from Ohio State who flamed me in e-mail
last week.  (I didn't save those precious comments. :-))  Let me know
if it's you; if so, you reached kill-file critical mass in record time.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: nss3@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Noel Steere)
Subject: Re: Cubs: Maddux, REALLY hard loser
Reply-To: nss3@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 06:46:06 GMT

In article <92242.08221834EX5PH@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Michael S. Matusiewicz <34EX5PH@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:
>What a stupid idea, the CUBS offense on purpose blowing it so that
>they can keep Maddux.  Jim L. "OK guys, Andre you go 0-4, Ryno you can
>have one hit, Grace just get a couple of walks, etc."  What a
>BONEHEAD idea.

Well, I think the point the others were trying to make is that the
Cubs don't have to blow it on purpose to lower Maddux's W/L record.
Their offense just *bites*, period.  Let me put it this way: Andre
doesn't have to told to go 0-4, and while Ryno and Grace are the two
bright points in the "Cubs offense" (coming soon to an Oxymoron
Boutique near you! :-) ), they don't have anyone else who performs at
an above average level of OPS for their position.  As long as the
offense remains this putrid, the Cubs have nowhere to go but down.

>matu

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Subject: Reds are catching up ...
From: saji@thor.ece.uc.edu (Sandeep  Aji)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 06:51:07 GMT
Organization: Unversity of Cincinnati, ECE Dept
Originator: saji@thor.ece.uc.edu



  Pay back time Atlanta ... we want our lead back .
  
  is there any Reds Fans mailing list .... ???  Pls help ..

  Aji.



  GO REDS !!!!!!!


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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Pitchers who hit (again)
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:25:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.031433.12418@cs.cornell.edu> tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:
>In article <69TP02Kk1f8M01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> msw10@nepenthe.as writes:
>>
>>My question is, why are pitchers always batted last? The Mets had SS
>>Dick Schofield, who was hitting .205 hitting second. It seems to me
>>like it would make a lot more sense to bat a pitcher who has shown he
>>can *consistently* hit above .250 the same place you would bat any
>>other player who bats >.250.
>
>If you find such a pitcher, please let me know.
>
>From 1984 to 1990, Gooden had 94 hits in 513 AB.  That is a .183 BA.
>Definitely not "consistently above .250".
>
>Let me postulate, for the sake of argument, that you *do* come up with
>a pitcher who can consistently hit .250.  Call him Don Robinson.  I
>can think of three other reasons to bat him ninth.
>
>3) You don't want Don running the bases and tiring himself out.  Give
>him as few AB as possible.

Lemme pick a nit here: Don Robinson probably gets tired walking to the mound.

>4) If Don gets blown away in the second inning, you don't want to have
>to bat the relief pitchers in the #6 spot for the rest of the game.
>
>5) That .250 batting average is probably emptier than the California
>state treasury!  Schofield at least walks a fair amount and runs the
>bases well.

I did a quick look at 3 pitchers who had "good hitting" reps. Here're the
results:

Pitcher		AB	HR	BA
Earl Wilson 	740  	35!  	.195 
Steve Carlton	1719	13	.201
Valenzuela	738	 7	.192

For comparison, here's Schofield

3395 AB, 48 HR, .232 BA.

In all honesty, I'd really only consider keeping Wilson in the game if I
was behind in the late innings (and that only because of his power) and
needed some runs. Even then, if I had a man on 3rd, trailing by a run, 2 out
9th inning, I'd probably put in Schofield (and cry and pray).

Mike
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From: 6500alh@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Archie Holmes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Cone to Blue Jays!!?
Keywords: Cone. Mets, Blue Jays, trade
Date: 28 Aug 92 04:57:58 GMT
Distribution: rec

ESPN is reporting that Cone has been traded by the Mets to the
Blue Jays for a third baseman (Arthur Kent?) and "future considerations"

Archie Holmes
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