HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: abian@iastate.edu (Alexander Abian)
Subject: Response to PUTTING VENUS IN AN ORBIT ...  and  TIME HAS INERTIA
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:03:36 GMT

   
   My statements concerning PUTTING VENUS IN AN ORBIT SIMILAR TO THE ORBIT

OF THE EARTH  and  TIME HAS INERTIA need no further elucidation, justifi-

cation or proof.  They are explicit, self-explanatory and self-evident.

They are true and they are the way of the future.  I do not necessarily

need the approbation of the so-called guardians of "truth" and "reality".

   People will alter the orbit of Venus and the orbits of other planets

(Terraforming is not a radical enough solution).  People will alter the

Tilt of the Earth to avert the persistent occurrences of meteorological

catastrophes, disasters and calamities.

   People will conclude that TIME HAS INERTIA and that Principles of

Conservation of Energy and Constancy of the Speed of Light must be

rejected.

   People should study my proposals and further develop them.  Their

implementation is inevitable.                    Alexander ABIAN         

Xref: sparky sci.astro:10240 sci.environment:11644 alt.hurricane.andrew:127
From: IRIN@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA (IRIN000)
Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.environment,alt.hurricane.andrew
Subject: RE: Space Photography of Andrew's Swath?
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:18:57 GMT
Organization: McGill University

In article <1992Sep24.203958.25308@cs.ucf.edu> clarke@acme.ucf.edu (Thomas Clarke) writes:
>The news reports that hurricane Andrew left a quit
>distinct 20 mile wide swath of de-leaved trees etc.
>through the everglades.  I wonder is there are any
>space-borne photographs (shuttle,whatever) of the
>swath?
>
>Gif files posted to alt.binaries.pictures would be
>especially interesting if anyone has both pictures and
>a scanner.
>
>--
>Thomas Clarke
>Institute for Simulation and Training, University of Central FL
>12424 Research Parkway, Suite 300, Orlando, FL 32826
>(407)658-5030, FAX: (407)658-5059, clarke@acme.ucf.edu
>.
>.
Newsgroups: sci.astro
From: MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Michael Edelman)
Subject: $49.95 finder: Final summary
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:04:13 GMT

I've now spent a number of nights fiddling with the Black Forest $49.95
3" finder. I've tried it with and without a diagonal, with eyepieces
from 7mm to 40mm, and with a variety of improvised eyepieces (old binocular
oculars, cinema lenses, etc.) Nothing worked very well. It is severely
plagued by coma and has very poor contrast besides. It's just not terribly
useable.
 
The basic unit is $49.95, to which you must add $5 shipping. That's a nickle
under $55. The cheapest oculars are about $35 new, bringing the total to
$90. For that much you can get a Meade 9x60 finder with crosshairs. Nice try,
BFO, but sorry. At least I got some good ideas about using plumbing parts
from it.
                     --mike
From: j.jahn@abbs.hanse.de (Jost Jahn)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Sunspots at 26.09.1992.
Reply-To: j.jahn@abbs.hanse.de
Date: 26 Sep 92 15:48:00 MESZ
Distribution: sci
Organization: ABBS AstroMail, D-W 2121 Dahlenburg / Germany
X-Version: ZerUU V6.45c

Sunspots at 26.09.1992., 0 h UT.

No.    Pos.  Cl.  Ar.  Mag. SF  F  M  X
---------------------------------------
7283 15S 63W Hsx   80   a    1
7287 07N 69W Bxo   10   b
7288 17S 47W Cso   50   b
7289 09S 00W Hhx  240   a
7291 05S 27W Bxo   10   b
7292 18N 35E Bxo   10   b    1
7293 07S 40E Dao   90   b
7294 12S 58E Hsx  210   a
7295 14N 82E Hsx   60   a    1


No optical or x-ray flares yesterday observed.


 
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From: fischer@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Phil Fischer)
Subject: Re: Need a list of suitable CCD Flatfield sites...
Organization: Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, McMaster University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:26:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.145702.1@vax1.mankato.msus.edu>
belgarath@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:  

> 
> Does anyone know where we can find a list of suitable flatfields for 
>CCD imaging?  Either the list itself, or the location of the list would be 
>greatly appreciated. Please send responses to the e-mail address below.  
> Thanks!

Generally flat fields are taken on the night of observation, preferably using
the twilight sky or alternatively using dome flats. The flat field is
chip/filter/telescope dependent and therefore using old flats is not very
satisfactory.

Phil
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Dept. of Physics and Astronomy       | L8S 4M1
McMaster University                  | 416-525-9140 X 4574
Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.physics
From: cjr6495@tamsun.tamu.edu (C J Rogers (Chris))
Subject: Re: Revenge of the Space Potatoes
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 23:37:44 GMT

In article <KUKKONEN.92Oct3234722@punisher.hut.fi> kukkonen@niksula.hut.fi (Sami Kukkonen) writes:
>Hannu P writes:
>
>>    You are yourself paranoid with your 'tupsu-viitta'-stories in
>>    sfnet.keskustelu.filosofia (philosophy) where I encontered your stupid
>>    stories about The Holy Bible.
>
>	If the Bible has stupid stories it doesn't make me paranoid,
>	I was just commenting on these stories. If you have trouble
>	understanding both science and religion I recommend that you
>	study these subjects further. 
>
>	However, this is all irrelevant and since our discussion has 
>	nothing to do with science any more we can move it to /dev/null.


PEOPLE!!!  Can we drop this whole subject?  It has gotten way old.  This is
supposed to be a forum for discussion of Astronomical aspects, right?  If you
really want to continue this arguement, take it to alt.stupid or something.  

Now can we get on with some serious science.

Later!
C J Rogers


	"The worst enemies greet you with 'We come in peace'" -- Unknown
From: mab@buphy.bu.edu (Michael Burstein)
Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.physics
Subject: Black hole textbooks wanted
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:40:25 GMT
Followup-To: sci.astro
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

I'm looking for recommendations for textbooks or published compilations
of papers that discuss the physics of the different types of black
holes: Schwarzchild, rotating, rotating and charged, non-rotating and
charged, etc.  Please e-mail, as I don't regularly check these
newsgroups.


-- 
Michael A. Burstein
Physics Department, Boston University         mab@buphy.bu.edu
590 Commonwealth Ave.                         (617) 353-9437 (o)
Boston, MA 02215                              (617) 735-9433 (h)
From: ronnie@cisco.com (Ronnie B. Kon)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: The color violet?
Date: 1 Oct 1992 02:53:58 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Incorporated
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: lager.cisco.com

In article <1992Sep29.193034.1@stsci.edu>, zellner@stsci.edu writes:

|> How about in a rainbow?  Actually it's rather hard to see much blue in 
|> a rainbow, I presume because Rayleigh scattering removes a lot of it
|> before it reaches near-surface altitudes, and also because the sun isn't
|> very bright in blue light.  Did you ever see violet in a rainbow?  Don't
|> be misled by the red (or purple?) of the secondary bow or supernumerary 
|> arcs! 

I've seen violet in rainbows.  The secondary bow isn't an issue as: 1) it
is too far away to interfere, and 2) it is mirror reversed to the first bow,
so the side facing the violet is violet also.

You're question is a hell of a good one though.  Perhaps the answer is
that we don't have "blue" cones, we have "violet" cones, which see that
violet + green = blue?


|> And what is the color "indigo"?

Not really a color--included just to make Roy G. Biv work.  (At least
I've never seen it in a rainbow, and I have looked for it.  [ Roy G. Biv
is a mnemonic for the colors in the rainbow--Red, Orange, Yellow, Green,
Blue, Indigo, Violet ].

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Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.space,alt.sci.planetary
From: knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp)
Subject: Help! Need bitmaps (or good photographs) of planets viewed from earth
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:32:02 GMT


Hello,

I'm seeking earth based photographs or graphics files of Jupiter or Mars
taken from ground based telescopes. I need, yes, *mediocre* quality and they
need to be large in number over short time durations.

Any help or pointers to where I can find these would be *greatly* appreciated.




-- 
David Knapp                                      University of Colorado, Boulder
Perpetual Student                                   knapp@spot.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: sci.astro
From: frisbee@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (frisbee)
Subject: Seeking Correlation of Solar Activity to S/C Events
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 06:29:22 GMT

To Whom it May Concern,

	I am trying to correlate certain effects observed on an 
active spacecraft with possible solar proton emissons. The events
occured at UTC 1992/274-02:54:31 and UTC 1992/275-03:33:22. Was there
a high degree of solar activity at these times?

		frisbee@devvax.jpl.nasa.gov
From: reddy@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (Chandrasekhar Reddy)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Binocular telescopes
Date: 30 Sep 92 10:07:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: bowling.9209301807.AA06313
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science


I have a question about telescope design.

I plan to construct a binocular telescope using two 4" f/6 primaries seperated
by 2' (two feet), each with its own optical path leading to a different
eyepiece, one for each eye.

Will such a telescope have a much larger effective aperture?
If so what will the effective aperture be compared to a monocular construction?
Will such a setup be useful in resolving the details of deep sky objects?

Thanks
Chandra Reddy
reddy@cis.ohio-state.edu)
From: hotka@strife.dr.att.com (BL054626-HotkaMA(DR2143)253)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: JPL Publication Needed
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:48:54 GMT

Does anyone know the title, JPL Publication number and the Government Printing
Office Publication number of the summary book of the Voyager Fly-by of Uranus.  I
have the other 3 publications (Voyager at Jupiter, at Saturn and now at Neptune).
 I would like the Uranus publication to complete my set and have all the photos
and information contained in these four books.

thanks

Mike Hotka
Newsgroups: sci.astro.hubble
From: mrose@prufrock.stsci.edu (Mike Rose)
Subject: HST Ground Track Map (Mac program, V3.4.0)
Originator: sah@wfpc3
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:23:47 GMT

The following program has been posted to comp.binaries.mac and is
available by anonymous FTP from stsci.edu and rascal.ics.utexas.edu.

HSTMAP displays the ground track and instantaneous orbital position of
the Hubble Space Telescope projected on a world map.  Also shown are
the terminator deliniating the day/night sides, the sub-solar and
sub-vernal equinoctal points, the longitude at 0h siderial time, one
of several SAA models, and the ZOE.

Regular updates to the HST position will be posted to sci.astro.hubble
--
Mike Rose, mrose@stsci.edu, 410-338-4949

Newsgroups: sci.astro.hubble
From: mrose@prufrock.stsci.edu (Mike Rose)
Subject: HSTMAP Orbit Parameters (10-25-92 Update)
Originator: sah@wfpc3
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:10:50 GMT

Reference Orbit Number:  13649
Orbit Node Regression Rate: -6.42695 Degrees/Day
EASCNCR   - Ascending Node Crossing for Reference Orbit: 1992-10-25 19:35:58.00
EASCNCR+1 - Ascending Node Crossing for Following Orbit: 1992-10-25 21:12:18.00
EONOON    - S/C Noon After Ascending Node Crossing:      1992-10-25 19:55:29.00
--
Mike Rose, mrose@stsci.edu, 410-338-4949

Newsgroups: sci.astro
From: stone@cwis.unomaha.edu (Travis Stone)
Subject: Re: "I Apologize"--Fine. Now GET LOST.
Keywords: Babbling Idiot
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:46:58 GMT


Hannu, the Bearer of Brotherhood and Good Will to All Men
says:

> By these suffering of ordinary people I ment that when
> man is unhappy he suffers mentally.

Apparently not as much as YOU are, chum....

In case you haven't noticed, this is sci.astro, an informal
forum for the discussion of things astronomical---NOT "Lifestyles
of the Mentally Disturbed", as YOU seem to think it is.  If you
want to get down and talk astronomy and astrophysics, then by
all means---welcome aboard, have a seat, let's talk; but if
your sole purpose is to come here and clog the newsgroup with
pseudoreligious psychobabble, and then start flame wars with
other folks, then weigh anchor and make sail, buddy---there are
lots of other news groups out there that are tailor-made for
just such shenanigans.

T.R. Stone
University of Nebraska-Omaha
irrelevant 
Newsgroups: sci.astro
From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: ALTERNATIVE Heavy Element Creation in Universe
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:29:27 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.192437.1430@cnsvax.uwec.edu> mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>          
>
>                            BIOLOGICAL TRANSMUTATIONS
>
>          ( ANOTHER Way That The Universe Creates Heavy Elements. )
>
>               A very simple experiment can demonstrate (PROVE) the 
>          FACT of "BIOLOGICAL TRANSMUTATIONS" (reactions like Mg + O 
>          --> Ca, Si + C --> Ca, K + H --> Ca, N2 --> CO, etc.), as 
>          described in the BOOK "Biological Transmutations" by Louis 
>          Kervran, [1972 Edition is BEST.], and in Chapter 17 of the 
>          book "THE SECRET LIFE OF PLANTS" [see Footnote] by Peter 
>          Tompkins and Christopher Bird, 1973: 

Does this mean there really may be a goose that lays golden eggs?
Where's Asimov when you need him.

--
In the midst of the word he was trying to say,|McCreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com
     In the midst of his laughter and glee,   |Me, speak for Compaq?  
He had softly and suddenly vanished away---   |Yeah, right.
     For the Snark *was* a Boojum, you see.   |#include <stddisclaimer.h>
From: ronnie@cisco.com (Ronnie B. Kon)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: Origin of 7-day week
Date: 29 Sep 1992 21:04:48 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Incorporated
Distribution: world
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In article <Bv0Lsx.54J@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, nash@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (David Nash) writes:
|> In article <19ol45INNbmo@roche.csl.sri.com> ronnie@cisco.com (Ronnie B. Kon) writes:
|> 
|> >But your points are exactly right.
|> >
|> >Sunday		The Sun
|> >Monday		The Moon
|> >Tuesday		Tyr's Day (from *Tiwaz, a cognate of Zeus, Jupiter, Jahweh)
|> >Wednesday	Wotan's Day (better known in English as Odin)
|> >Thursday	Thor's Day
|> >Friday		Frea's Day
|> >Saturday	Saturn's Day
|> 
|> Idle dumb question time (I haven't been following this thread very closely
|> recently):
|> 
|> Is there believed to be any real correspondence between the gods chosen in the
|> Romance languages' names for days (i.e., the Roman Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, and
|> Venus) vs. those used by the Germanic/Scandinavian languages?  That is,
|> does Tyr correspond to Mars, Odin to Mercury etc. etc.  Apologies if I'm over-
|> looking some obvious resource, but I'm not exactly up on my
|> Norse mythology...

There is a relationship, and it is called "The Germanic Interpretation" as
I recall, but that's all I remember about it.  (This is from Scandinavian 160
that I took 10 years ago).

				Ronnie

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Xref: sparky sci.astro:10294 sci.space:13813 news.answers:3180
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: LIST OF ECLIPSES WANTED PLEASE
From: pols051@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:07:13 GMT
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

Please could someone out there e-mail me a list of any total solar eclipses
that will happen anywhere in the world during 1993.   It's just that next year
I will be going on a world trip of some description and it might be worthwhile
to take a detour if there are any eclipses happening nearby.

Thanks to anyone who can help me on this.

Andrew Hoy
Political Science Department
University of Canterbury
Christchurch, New Zealand.
Newsgroups: sci.astro
From: mike@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Smithwick)
Subject: Distant Suns/Mac upgrade
Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:32:14 GMT

[]

Distant Suns 1.0a has just been issued. If you have version 1.0 you may want
to upgrade. This is merely a bug-fix release, the major bug being that
it wouldn't print out to an HP Deskwriter (thanks to some sloppy Apple
driver specs). Also a number of minor cosmetic errors were fixed and some
small inconsistancies.

(That'll teach me to do beta testing during the summer when all of 
my testers are off on vacation  ;-)

Call Virtual Reality Labs at (805)545-8515 for further information.

Mike Smithwick, author


 
-- 
"There is no problem too big that can't be solved with high explosives"-Rush

Mike Smithwick - ames!zorch!mike
From: sichase@csa3.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: TIME HAS INERTIA
Date: 30 Sep 1992 15:09 PST
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.198
Keywords: TIME, INERTIA, proof?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <siamack.717884349@pv343f.vincent.iastate.edu>, siamack@iastate.edu (Siamack Bondari) writes...
>In <29SEP199214232446@csa1.lbl.gov> sichase@csa1.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE) writes:

>>Please see the sci.physics FAQ for details.

>Mr. Chase:
>    Can you please elaborate further the statements in your above reply.

Sorry, but no.  That's what the FAQ is for.  Read it.  I just posted it 
today to sci.physics, so you should have no problem getting it.  After that, 
if you still have questions, ask the sci.physics newsgroup (or this one!).  
The entire sum of my understanding of the question is in the FAQ.  If you 
want more than that you will have to find a real expert, which I am not. 

>    Also, could it be that the " disappearing photon energy"  is spent on
>overcoming the INERTIA OF TIME in the process of forward movement of Time?

I'm going to answer this one as if it isn't a joke, though I'm not sure 
that you meant it seriously:

Unlikely.  In a certain sense, anything is possible.   Every good lawyer
knows that (Isn't is possible, Ms. Brown that your friend Mr. Jones, is 
a mass murderer? Isn't it?!)  

However, there is no reason to believe that if you soaked up all the CBR
photons that anything about the nature of time would be changed.  I have
not been following the "Inertia of Time" thread, except when this 
business about conservation of energy caught my eye - so I don't know 
exactly what you are talking about, in any event.  

-Scott
--------------------
Scott I. Chase			"The question seems to be of such a character
SICHASE@CSA2.LBL.GOV		that if I should come to life after my death
				and some mathematician were to tell me that it
				had been definitely settled, I think I would
				immediately drop dead again."      - Vandiver
Newsgroups: sci.astro
From: gerry@bluemoon.rn.com (Gerard M. Foley)
Subject: NASA CD-ROM (JPL Ephemeris)
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 11:27:58 EDT

   The CD-ROMs labelled "Goddard Space Flight Center Selected
Astronomical Catalogs - Vol. 1" Nos. 1 and 2 have what appear
to be identical directories \ASTROM\JPLEPHEM.  These contain
two large data files, with four files *.FOR which appear to
be Fortran Source Code to be compiled to a program to run on
a main-frame and read tape files and compose selected 
ephemerises (ephemera?).
    Has anyone translated these to .EXE files to read the 
CD-ROM files on a PC?  If not, to source files for Turbo-Pascal?
or anything?
    I am working on translation of the FORTRAN sources to
Turbo-Pascal, but it has been a long long time since I worked
in FORTRAN, and it is a slow process!!

gerry@bluemoon.rn whose home bbs has trouble getting the 
mail out sometimes, so it may go here instead.
From: higgins@fnalf.fnal.gov (Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: LIST OF ECLIPSES WANTED P
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:16:33 GMT
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalf.fnal.gov

In article <668.413.uupcb@the-matrix.com>, bill.nunnelee@the-matrix.com (Bill Nunnelee)  writes:
> -> Please could someone out there e-mail me a list of any total solar
> -> eclipses that will happen anywhere in the world during 1993.   It's
> 
>    Sorry, but there are no total eclipses of the Sun next year.

Damned budget cuts.

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Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.physics
From: schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher)
Subject: Re: Progress with New Cosmologies (& discrete redshifts)
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:59:35 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <Bvon1E.I3F@well.sf.ca.us> metares@well.sf.ca.us (Tom Van Flandern) writes:
>     This is from the charter:

>     "Meta Research, Inc. is a scientific non-profit corporation run by a 7-
>member board.  It was founded in response to the broad problem of getting
>support to do research on promising but unpopular alternative ideas in
>astronomy which have trouble getting funded from the usual sources.  The
>corporation is organized exclusively for the purpose of supporting and
>encouraging research or observations in connection with astronomical theories
>which are in accord with observations and experiment, add insight or
>understanding, and make testable predictions; but which are not otherwise
>supported because they lie outside of the mainstream of theories in
>Astronomy."

Whose research is supported, besides yours?