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From: lola@lucid.com (Lola McCrary)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Steak places in South Bay wanted
Organization: Lucid, Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 05:19:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.014847.23802@leland.Stanford.EDU> dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dave Eisen) writes:


   Has anybody tried Scott's Grill on Bayfront near Embarcadero,
   right across from Ming's Villa? My office is right near there
   and I've been curious about this place since we moved here.

We used our Entertainment 92 coupon there, and weren't impressed.  California
cuisine, artsy presentation, not much food.  HOWEVER--if you like calamari I
highly recommend the deep fried calamari appetizer.  Yum!!!

   -- 
   Dave Eisen    dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU   Sequoia Peripherals: (415) 967-5644
		   Some of my best friends are men.
	   --- Lisa Nee in "American Women Deserve a Tax Break."


Lola
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: vishal@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Vishal I. Sikka)
Subject: Re: Buffalo Wings
Keywords: Wings, Buffalo
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 05:38:51 GMT

Gumba's Italian Food in Cupertino Village, Cupertino, serves authentic
buffalo style chicken wings. It's located at the corner of Wolfe and
Homestead.

Vishal.

Xref: sparky ba.food:2737 soc.veterans:883
From: spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope)
Newsgroups: ba.food,soc.veterans
Subject: Re: Req: Horse and Cow.
Date: 17 Aug 1992 16:42:35 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
NNTP-Posting-Host: zabriskie.berkeley.edu

jimj@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones) writes:

> maxwell@fnalb.fnal.gov writes:

>> Is the Horse and Cow still in biz?

>If you're talking about that dive up along I-80 in Vallejo with the 
>submarine on the roof, it was still there the last time I looked.  I can't 
>tell you if it's the same old place, because I've never been a customer
>and never plan to be one.  

Well, at least the place has that much going for it.

- Steve
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Followups, and the Mango Cafe (was re: roasted taste buds)
Date: 22 Aug 92 20:22:31 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <9208212040.AA04343@minos.nmt.edu> js@MINOS.NMT.EDU (John Shipman) writes:
}I would like to recommend a Palo Alto restaurant for you
}heat addicts out there: the Mango Cafe, on University
}about four blocks towards Stanford from Middlefield.  Try

Sounds good!

The book "Peppers" has already been recommended; here are two more:

"Hot, Hotter, Hottest" by Janet Hazen, pub. by Chronicle Books
Although the only pepper species she covers is chiles (and she spells
it chilies), I still highly recommend this book for "hotheads", as
she calls heat lovers. (After all, there are about 400 or so varieties
of chiles alone!)  There are separate sections for recipes
concentrating on Ginger, Horseradish, Mustard, Peppercorns, and Chilies 
[sic]. Sample recipes include Roasted Red Pepper Soup with Green Chilies
and Smoked Chicken, Eggplant Ravioli with Ginger Cilantro Sauce, and
even sweet things like Poached Nectarines with Ginger and Creme Fraiche
and Walnut-Fig Tart with Ancho Chilies.

"Jerk" by Helen Willinsky, pub. by The Crossing Press.
"We Jamaicans like our foods spicy hot....A fresh hot pepper [she is
referring to Scotch bonnets or "bird peppers", another super-incindiery]
are always served on the side of the plate so that diners can sliver off
pieces of pepper as their palate allows....Scotch bonnet pepper sauce is
preferred for most dishes and to add heat to the basic Jerk Marinade...
and Jerk Rub..." Need I say more? She also gives sources for Helen's
Tropical-Exotics line of spices and sauces (including Scotch bonnet
sauce and other hot pepper sauces), because she owns the company.
Supposedly you can get a catalog from The Crossing Press by calling
800-777-1048, and you can get Helen's products at G. B. Ratto
International Grocers in Oakland, Gourmet Specialties in SF, or by
calling Helen's Tropical-Exotics in Atlanta at 404-292-7278.

I have no connection with any of the above other than as a satisfied
reader and cook and "hothead".
-- 
Curtis Jackson		cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	(415) 962 4905
Adobe Systems, 1585 Charleston Rd., POB 7900, Mountain View, CA 94039-7900
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
From: js@MINOS.NMT.EDU (John Shipman)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Capriccio, Los Altos (review)
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:44:35 GMT

Capriccio is a popular Italian place located in a shopping
center at El Camino and San Antonio in Los Altos; it's on
the San Francisco side of San Antonio and the foothills side
of El Camino (logical northwest corner).

My meal there last night started out in the stratosphere
and ended up on the ground.  The best thing about it was
the bread that arrived immediately after I ordered.  It
was hot enough to be hard to handle.  It is a soft bread
with some herbs cooked into it, and you can pull it apart
to spread some of their garlic cheese butter in the middle.
Really wonderful stuff.

The cream of broccoli soup was pretty decent, although for
a low-salt person like myself it was too salty.

For my entree I picked the poached halibut.  Compared to
the grilled halibut I had a couple of weeks ago at Piccolo
Mondo just down the street, it was overcooked, almost what
you could call tough.  Is this really necessary when fish
is poached?  The halibut is available grilled as well,
so it's not really a fair comparison.

The saffron rice and the steamed vegetables were okay,
nothing special.

Prices are medium to high (the halibut was $16.75 for a
full dinner including soup or salad).  As for the
service, I was greeted, seated, and my order taken
promptly (this is at 9:15 pm on a Thursday), but the
waiter disappeared for 20 minutes after delivering
the entree.  Since I had other places to go, this
left me with a choice of eating the overcooked fish
or being late.  For this I cut the tip back to 10%.
(Yes, I'm a hard case.)

I've eaten here once before.  On that occasion I had
sole and it was very tender, not at all overcooked.
Maybe I got a bad chef last night.  I'll try this
place again, but not soon.

John Shipman (john@nmt.edu)
From: maslak@unix.SRI.COM (Valerie Maslak)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Steak places in South Bay wanted
Keywords: steak south bay
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:23:38 GMT
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California


I didn't notice anyone listing Sundance MIne Company on El Camino
in Palo Alto. I haven't been there lately, but they used to be a
decent, middle-of-the road steak/grill sort of place.

Theo's, Macarthur Park, and Fresco in Palo Alto also usually have
excellent versions of steak on the
menu, although neither of them specifically is a steak place.

On the classy side, there's Birk's over near Great America in Santa
Clara, which is VERY GOOD, and got the seal of approval of my uncle,
a confirmed steak man if there ever was one.
 Also:
Los Altos Bar and Grill
Mac's Tea Room in Los Altos



Valerie Maslak

Newsgroups: ba.food
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Subject: Re: Looking for a *quality* grocery store
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:33:15 GMT

In article <JET.92Aug18115944@win30.nas.nasa.gov> jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>
>I don't know how to explain exactly what I'm looking for except to say
>that in Houston I liked going to Auchan's (french hypermarket), Rice
>Epicurian, and Whole Foods (expensive and anti-union, but good
>produce).

Gosh, that's real helpful.  I don't know what you're looking for, either,
but try Trader Joe's.  The closest one to you is in Menlo Park, until the
store in San Antonio Center opens.  Take El Camino through Palo Alto until
you see Kepler's on the right; make a left (onto Menlo, I believe), and go a 
block or two.

Or try the afore-mentioned Milk Pail near San Antonio, on California.

Some people like the Bread of Life (various South Bay locations).  Me, I
think they're overrated and overpriced, but you did mention "yuppie"
and "granola" in the same sentence.

I can't vouch for the political affiliation or social responsibility status
of any of the above.

Charleen


--
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        1] Boy Scouts have adult supervision
        2] Boy Scouts don't have heavy artillery.
                                -- woody
From: JMH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Milk Farm?
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:39:47 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

When I was a kid in the late 40's and early 50's this was a real
"kool" place to stop for food. The milkshakes and other fountain goodies
were very good, and prices were lower than the Nut Tree. These were the
only places to stop between Fairfield and Davis. As years went by, and
more competition came in, the Milk Farm just fell out of favor. My family
liked it best of all the stopping places along Hiway 80.



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Disclaimer -  Who said I could have an opinion ??? Certainly NOT SLAC!!
From: Mahi_deSilva@Taligent.com (Mahi de Silva)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Napa/Sonoma Best Restaurants
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:17:30 GMT
Organization: Taligent Inc.
X-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 23:17:29 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d3

In article <1992Aug12.195008.22074@odin.corp.sgi.com> Cathy L. Wallace,
clw@sante.corp.sgi.com writes:
>One of my favorite customers is going to be in town next week and will
>spend the weekend in Napa/Sonoma.  He asked for recommendations on the
best
>restaurant in Napa and Sonoma and I didn't know what to recommend. 
>Recommendations?

Here are some recommendations for the Napa/St. Helena Area.

Table 29:  Inventive California cusine. The Ahi-tartar is a must as an 
appetizer. Great Grilled Quail. Nice wine list with good wines by the 
glass. Good service.

Terra: A cozy, but elegent establishment, limited seating but well worth
it
if you can get in. Adaptations of french and italian dishes.  Excellent 
food, great service.  Try their smoked salmon appetizer. GREAT desserts.

Tra Vigne (sp?): Northern Italian. Excellent food and wine list. Very
popular, 
so reservations are a must. Outdoor dinning available. 

Domaine Chandon: Expensive, but impressive food. Nice outdoor dinning.
Also
very popular.

Meadowood Resort: A great setting if you want to dine outdoors. Their
food is
nice but lacks the flair of others.

Piatti's: Modern Italian, good pasta, pizza and grilled dishes. I think
this one
is in Yonteville, just south of Napa.

Mustard's Grill: Run by the same people as Tra Vigne. Less formal also.
Inventive food.  Nice atmosphere.
Newsgroups: ba.food,soc.veterans
From: maxwell@fnalb.fnal.gov
Subject: Re: Req: Horse and Cow.
Organization: What does *this* button do!?
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:52:07 GMT
X-Posted-From: fnalb.fnal.gov
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <l8vfa3INNdlk@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, jimj@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones) writes:
> In article <1992Aug15.173839.1@fnalb.fnal.gov> maxwell@fnalb.fnal.gov writes:
>>Is the Horse and Cow still in biz?
>>Is it still the same ol' (ss)/biker joynt it used to be? 
>>wondering.max 
> 
> If you're talking about that dive up along I-80 in Vallejo with the 
> submarine on the roof, it was still there the last time I looked.  I can't 
> tell you if it's the same old place, because I've never been a customer
> and never plan to be one.  

That's the place! It *is* pretty scuzzy, but in a previous life ... well, you
kinda need to have been a part of the culture to apreciate it. 

Lotsa submarine memoriabilia on the walls, awful C&W music on the jukebox,
nothing to drink but Oly', Jack, and Jose... It was perfect!
[...]
> Jim Jones

Thanx.max
(Now I'm all misty eyed)
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: mharper@well.sf.ca.us (Michael J. Harper)
Subject: Re: Napa/Sonoma Best Restaurants
Keywords: Napa/Sonoma
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:53:46 GMT

Tra Vigne in St Helena is a great restaurant.  Try to get "Murph" as your
waiter.
From: spatton@spatton.next.com (Sharon Patton)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Locate Epazote Herb
Keywords: Locate Epazote Herb
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:00:17 GMT
Reply-To: Rest in SJ & Sacramento


Can anyone help me to find where I can purchase this fresh or purchase a  
starter plant?

Its used in Mexican cooking and dried and fresh is as different as using  
Cilantro and coriander seed.

Thanks so much.

Sharon Patton
From: js@MINOS.NMT.EDU (John Shipman)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Birk's (was steak places)
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:43:52 GMT

A previous poster complained about the clientele at Birk's.
If your appetite is spoiled by the presence of "ties doing
power lunches," or for that matter by a bar with a meat-rack
ambience, okay, avoid Birk's.  But I go to restaurants for
the food, not to be gratified by how much the other customers
are like me.

And Birk's serves wonderful steaks.  I can't remember ever
having a filet mignon that could touch theirs.  I suspect
they have someone working there who really understands
how to age beef.

The seafood ain't bad either, IMHO.  The desserts are not
quite in the same orbit as those of the supremely decadent
Lion & Compass, but they are pretty sinful.  Service is
good.  (Sample size: three meals there in the last 8 months)

I posted a longer and more detailed review a while back;
if anyone would like a copy of that, e-mail me and I'll
send you one.

Directions: From 101, take the Great America Parkway exit
and head toward the bay.  Take the first right (Freedom
Circle) and bear right until you see Birk's on the right.

John Shipman (john@nmt.edu)
From: tbears@carousel.EBay.Sun.COM (a.k.a tbears, once upon a time...)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Fremont lunch places?
Date: 13 Aug 1992 00:00:32 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: tbears@carousel.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: carousel.ebay.sun.com

Try Florentines on Mowry or the Olive Garden also off Mowry.  Or Pizzaria UNO just
off State St.  Just a couple of my favorites...

Pam





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From: srj@key.COM (Scott R. Johnson)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: WANTED: Catering for reception
Keywords: food food food caterer recommendation
Date: 21 Aug 92 22:32:57 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Advanced Systems, Fremont CA

Hi,

My fiancee and I are looking for caters to feed the 
hungry mob on our wedding day.

Anybody got any recommendations as to who to 
try and/or stay away from?

If there is interest, I'll summarize...

If you saw this before, I apologize. Our mail gateway
was going voing,voing,voing lately...



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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: dan@BofA.com (Dan Brockman)
Subject: Re: Wine
Organization: Bank of America, Capital Products, RMTG #5906
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 23:48:27 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.151411.25800@pbhyc.PacBell.COM> amdease@pbhyc.PacBell.COM (Ann Dease) writes:
>
>I'd like to get recommendations/comments on any wine bars in the
>San Francisco & East Bay area.  Also, would like to know of any
>wine appreciation classes in the area.
>
>Thanks.


London Wine Bar, Sansome St between Sacramento and Clay in SF

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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dave Eisen)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Steak places in South Bay wanted
Keywords: steak south bay
Organization: Sequoia Peripherals, Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 01:48:47 GMT


Has anybody tried Scott's Grill on Bayfront near Embarcadero,
right across from Ming's Villa? My office is right near there
and I've been curious about this place since we moved here.



-- 
Dave Eisen    dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU   Sequoia Peripherals: (415) 967-5644
          	Some of my best friends are men.
        --- Lisa Nee in "American Women Deserve a Tax Break."
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: jon@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis)
Subject: Re: Where can I buy fresh seafood?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:21:38 GMT


   The New Castro Market on Castro in Mountain View has an extensive
seafood selection, including live fish and shellfish. 
--


Jon Corelis               jon@lindy.stanford.edu
Stanford University       BITNET:  BR.JGC@RLG.STANFORD.EDU
From: Raymond@Newton.Apple.Com (Lenny Raymond)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: We Be Sushi, Sunnyvale (review)
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:53:41 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Newton Group
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
X-Xxdate: Tue, 18 Aug 92 17:55:35 GMT

In article <9208172345.AA20300@minos.nmt.edu> John Shipman,
js@MINOS.NMT.EDU writes:

[article deleted]

I went to We Be Sushi in Sunnyvale last night.  It was almost as good as
Motomachi, the service was very friendly, and it was really cheap. 
However, my friend and I were the only patrons there.  Let's spread the
word about the place so it'll be around a long time.

Lenny
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Steak places in South Bay wanted
Keywords: steak south bay
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:49:25 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <ohprqtk@fido.asd.sgi.com> leej@sgi.com (Lee Jones) writes:
>Somebody mentioned Garden City before but I'll give it another plug.

I'll third it.  Their prime rib is almost big enough for three anyway.
The jazz is excellent as well.

Birk's, a steak house?  You gotta be kidding.  I've been to Birk's once.
Too many ties doing power lunches.   When I do a steak house I either go
to Andy's in Campbell or The Cat's above Los Gatos on hwy 17.  Now that's
a steak house.
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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: lara@sgi.com (Lara J Allen)
Subject: Re: Looking for a *quality* grocery store
Organization: Silicon Graphics Computer Systems,  Mountain View CA.
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:50:08 GMT


for a great produce store, try Di Martini's off of San Antonio
in Los Altos.  I'll spend $20 for a weeks worth of fruit & veggies.
They also have bulk grains/flour and a few cheeses (but Milk Pail
is much better for cheese/milk/dairy)

lara



(ps for further south people, Cornucopia off of Winchester in Campbell
is a wonderful Mom&Pop place that grows most of their produce.)


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From: js@MINOS.NMT.EDU (John Shipman)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Ordering hot Thai food
Date: 21 Aug 92 05:53:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: minos.9208210553.AA14184

If your Thai restaurant is not giving you food that is hot
enough for you, even when you order it "hot", try asking for
"Thai hot."

John Shipman (john@nmt.edu)
From: linda@wendy.net.com (Linda Hill)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Milk Farm?
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:25:31 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies

Has anyone ever stopped at the place off of I-80 (near Davis?) with the
big black and white cow on top of it called the Milk something?  I've always
wondered about it, but I've never taken the time to actually stop to try it.

linda@net.com
From: clw@sante.corp.sgi.com (Cathy L. Wallace)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Napa/Sonoma Best Restaurants
Keywords: Napa/Sonoma
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:50:08 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

One of my favorite customers is going to be in town next week and will
spend the weekend in Napa/Sonoma.  He asked for recommendations on the best
restaurant in Napa and Sonoma and I didn't know what to recommend. 
Recommendations?
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough)
Subject: Re: Scones
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 01:39:23 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Aug13.203103.6470@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> goodman@thebay.enet.dec.com (Roy Goodman) writes:
>It rhymes with "sun"....of course.  Actually, the vowel sound is a little longer than your average
>American-speaker puts in "sun".  Ask someone from Scotland about the Stone of Scone and you'll
>see (hear) what I mean...
>
You'll be stunned.
 
Greg
From: sweeney@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Peggy Sweeney)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Looking for a *quality* grocery store
Summary: Cosentino's
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:29:35 GMT
Distribution: ba


IMHO, the best *quality* grocery store I've ever seen is Cosentino's. They
have *everything!* and their prices are no higher than a standard grocery
store -- sometimes lower. There's one on Bascom in San Jose -- another
in -- I think -- Sunnyvale.

Peggy Sweeney
From: gringort@wsl.dec.com (Joel Gringorten)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Milk Farm?
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:30:02 GMT
Reply-To: gringort@wsl.dec.com (Joel Gringorten)
Distribution: ba
Organization: DEC Western Software Lab

In article <l92rcqINNp8a@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, jimj@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones) writes:
|> In article <2302@unet.UUCP> linda@wendy.net.com (Linda Hill) writes:
|> >Has anyone ever stopped at the place off of I-80 (near Davis?) with the
|> >big black and white cow on top of it called the Milk something?  I've always
|> >wondered about it, but I've never taken the time to actually stop to try it.
|> >
|> >linda@net.com
|> 
|> Did it look like it was open?  It closed a few years ago, even though
|> they kept the cow up on the roof; I haven't been
|> by that way in a year or so, though, so it could have reopened.
|> 
|> It used to be your basic roadside restaurant/gift shop, nothing special.
|> The kind of place where bus tours stop for lunch.       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Au Contraire!  (sp?)

The Milk Farm used to be a favorite stop of mine on the way home from 
Tahoe ski trips.  The one outstanding virtue of this fine establishment
was their milk shakes.  Now I don't profess to be an expert on milk shakes,
but there was something truly magnificant about the taste and texture
of theirs.  The Milk Farm didn't really close its doors completely;
they reopened across the street and north a few hundred yards or so.  
The new place was simply a diner, but had the same great shakes.  It's 
been a while since I've been there and I don't know if they're still around.

-joel